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KrumeLurer
05-10-24, 20:00
I think the main point is not the cost. Everyone understands inflation. McDonalds meal could be had for $1. 99. Now its like 10 bucks. But WHAT they are serving is more or less the same thing. Consistent burgers and service. You know what you are paying for. The issue is that the product, Thai pussy, is no longer the same. Yes it is is still available but the body its attached to is now tatted up, fake boobs, fake nose and eyes and a mercenary attitude. Yes I know the glory days are not coming back. But for better or worse people have reference point in their mind that sets expectations whether we like it or not. Good for you that you can only remember as far back as your last ejaculation. Many of us are not blessed with such selective and ultra short term memory.There has not been any inflation in Thailand that justyfies price increases of 50-100%.
And the prices asked in the tourist sector is not always the prices asked from the own population.
You really think thaimen are paying 35 year olds 1500 for a 30 minute fuck?
Banana Boi
05-10-24, 22:39
I've now become one of those guys who look back at the Good old days. I thought I'd list some of the best gogo bar lineups I have ever seen, in no order.
Black Pagoda Patpong - 2016.
King's Castle 1 Patpong in it's temporary location for 6 months in 2016(?)
Rainbow Bangkok (the big one. No idea which number) - 2017.
Baccara Bangkok - 2017.
Baccara Pattaya - 2016.
Sensations Pattaya - 2016.
Fahrenheit Pattaya - 2016
Happy / Beach Club Pattaya 2017
Sapphire Pattaya - 2015.
Palace Pattaya - 2017.
Ninja LK Metro - 2016.
Pin Up Pattaya. The 1st year it opened - 2017?
Likely forgetting a couple. Don't care if LD's have doubled since 2015. Would pay 2x more now if we could have the talent we once had.
Don't care if LD's have doubled since 2015. Would pay 2x more now if we could have the talent we once had.I think most of us that miss the old days, miss the talent level the most. And it was available to all, young and old. You would expect prices for girls and drinks to increase over time. My first trip to LOS in 1997 is one of the highlights of my life, family things aside.
I've now become one of those guys who look back at the Good old days. I thought I'd list some of the best gogo bar lineups I have ever seen, in no order.
Black Pagoda Patpong - 2016.
King's Castle 1 Patpong in it's temporary location for 6 months in 2016(?)
Rainbow Bangkok (the big one. No idea which number) - 2017.
Baccara Bangkok - 2017.
Baccara Pattaya - 2016.
Sensations Pattaya - 2016.
Fahrenheit Pattaya - 2016
Happy / Beach Club Pattaya 2017
Sapphire Pattaya - 2015.
Palace Pattaya - 2017.
Ninja LK Metro - 2016.
Pin Up Pattaya. The 1st year it opened - 2017?
Likely forgetting a couple. Don't care if LD's have doubled since 2015. Would pay 2x more now if we could have the talent we once had.I don't remember all the names of the Go-Go bars in Pattaya, but the best time that I had there was at the Tahitian Queen believe it or not in 1989. I think that was the last time I was in Patts.
Forty Drinks
05-11-24, 01:19
I've now become one of those guys who look back at the Good old days. I thought I'd list some of the best gogo bar lineups I have ever seen, in no order.
Black Pagoda Patpong - 2016.
King's Castle 1 Patpong in it's temporary location for 6 months in 2016(?)
Rainbow Bangkok (the big one. No idea which number) - 2017.
Baccara Bangkok - 2017.
Baccara Pattaya - 2016.
Sensations Pattaya - 2016.
Fahrenheit Pattaya - 2016
Happy / Beach Club Pattaya 2017
Sapphire Pattaya - 2015.
Palace Pattaya - 2017.
Ninja LK Metro - 2016.
Pin Up Pattaya. The 1st year it opened - 2017?.At its prime before the new about 10 years ago, maybe more.
Rainbow 4 at the time had 200 girl s or more on any given weekend.
Now. Maybe 70 on a weekend.
Before Rainbow full at 8.30 pm, even on Weekdays. Now it gets busy at 10 pm.
One of my friend was in pattaya 2 months back and tried Uzbek from one bar. His experience was good but costly.
He doesn't have any other info other than some gogo or dance bar in walking street. (he doesn't remember the name as well.).
I have been in pattaya before (6 month back). But never tried any Uzbek / Russian.
Wanted to ask here. Where to find if anybody knows? Any info, experience?
NRandom940
05-11-24, 03:23
You really think thaimen are paying 35 year olds 1500 for a 30 minute fuck?If the fiwfans site is a good indication, they aren't paying much less.
I've now become one of those guys who look back at the Good old days. I thought I'd list some of the best gogo bar lineups I have ever seen, in no order.1987. Patpong; Supergirl.
1987. Pattaya; Super Baby (a very appropriate name).
1987. Cowboy: Darling; Tilac; Midnight.
Beers 35 baht; lady drinks 30-35 baht; barfines 100 baht; LT 200-500 (You'd have to kick them out in the morning or take them to breakfast.) No such thing as ST unless that is what you wanted.
SS.
I've now become one of those guys who look back at the Good old days. I thought I'd list some of the best gogo bar lineups I have ever seen, in no order.
Black Pagoda Patpong - 2016.
King's Castle 1 Patpong in it's temporary location for 6 months in 2016(?)
Rainbow Bangkok (the big one. No idea which number) - 2017.
Baccara Bangkok - 2017.
Baccara Pattaya - 2016.
Sensations Pattaya - 2016.
Fahrenheit Pattaya - 2016
Happy / Beach Club Pattaya 2017
Sapphire Pattaya - 2015.
Palace Pattaya - 2017.
Ninja LK Metro - 2016.
Pin Up Pattaya. The 1st year it opened - 2017?
Likely forgetting a couple. Don't care if LD's have doubled since 2015. Would pay 2x more now if we could have the talent we once had.I started hobbying in Thailand in 2019. And I envy those who hobbied long time ago. Why do you think overall talent has declined? Is it because there are more economic opportunities now for women?
LocalExplorer
05-11-24, 06:24
One of my friend was in pattaya 2 months back and tried Uzbek from one bar. His experience was good but costly.
He doesn't have any other info other than some gogo or dance bar in walking street. (he doesn't remember the name as well.).
I have been in pattaya before (6 month back). But never tried any Uzbek / Russian.
Wanted to ask here. Where to find if anybody knows? Any info, experience?I've never tried them, but they're easy to find. There's a number of bars / clubs right on Walking Street. Just walk by or zoom in on Google Maps on WS and search for "Russian". Generally speaking, (almost) all the white women on WS are from former Soviet Union countries, especially Central Asia (Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan etc.), but ethnically Russian / Slavic. On Thai Friendly I have been also contacted by a few, white-looking and often with "RU" (capital letters) in their user ID.
Amongst the farang, and those resident in Pattaya in particular, "Russian" girls especially on WS are infamous as a scam. That's what I heard. Supposedly, the declared prices are very high, at pay-up time turn out to be double and there's always enough security men to convince you paying everything in full on the spot is your only option. Being white, I never felt compelled to verify those stories. I could try "white" or "very expensive" in Pattaya, but never both at the same time.
You're probably better off in Europe for white girls, but I can imagine if you just want to try once, it's still cheaper than flying.
Explorer8939
05-12-24, 01:26
I started hobbying in Thailand in 2019. And I envy those who hobbied long time ago. Why do you think overall talent has declined? Is it because there are more economic opportunities now for women?Female talent is about the same as 20 years ago.
When guys get older, they forget about the dogs and just remember the good ones.
Female talent is about the same as 20 years ago.Correct. You see the same 'girls' in the bars who started working there 20 years ago.
SoberHans69
05-12-24, 07:47
I've been going to Pattaya for like 20 years now but haven't been to Pattaya for over a year.
Last time I went I wouldn't say the facial attractivness had changed too much over the years but the amount of tattoos (mostly bad ones) has exponentially increased along with the average waistline of the girls, the prices have obviously gone up but the service of the girls, inside and outside of the bedroom, has gone down quite a bit too. There's also been an increase in those stupid painted on eyebrows too but that applies pretty much everywhere in the world now.
That's not to say you still can't have a great time there though. It's still probably the best mongering destination overall due to atmosphere, safety, choice etc but if you want great sex with attractive girls it's hard to find. Personally I'm going to split my holidays between Brazil and Pattaya for the best of both worlds.
Correct. You see the same 'girls' in the bars who started working there 20 years ago.Hell the boss at Thermae in Bangkok has been at it for 40 plus years, and I've know him for since 1986 +\.
Mr Enternational
05-12-24, 15:33
Correct. You see the same 'girls' in the bars who started working there 20 years ago.I see the same thing in the discos. And the new guys are just as happy with those same chicks who are now in their late 30's and early 40's as we were when we were new and they were in their 20's. There are plenty of new younger ones too. Nothing has changed except the players and I guess the price went up a little. But I do not see the new girls as looking any worse than the old girls looked back then.
It is that entire Glory Days mentality that causes old folk to get stuck and not be able to fully enjoy Pattaya in the present incarnation. This principle applies to hiring prostitutes and many other areas of life.I think most of us older guys enjoy both the glory days AND the present even if the present isn't as good as the glory days. I don't think anybody that visits Pattaya and this board now is stuck in the past.
Banana Boi
05-12-24, 20:42
Correct me if I am wrong, but I bet the girls back then were charging premium market prices relative to what was standard at the time. In other words, those agogo girls were not going for the same prices street girls were going for. Am I right?Correct gogo girl prices have been 3000ST and 5000 LT since 2015. The girl's price has not gone up by a single baht. BF have increased from 600-1000 to up to 2000 in the past 10 years. Drinks have roughly doubled in price since 2015.
Looking back it amazes me how I ran up 8000+ baht bills on drinks only back in 2015. That would be equivalent to guys spending 16,000 baht on just LD's these days.
Then add in a 3000+ at Hollywood, 500 at 7-11, and 5000 LT. Repeat night after night. No wonder I have no money left!
Correct gogo girl prices have been 3000ST and 5000 LT since 2015. The girl's price has not gone up by a single baht. BF have increased from 600-1000 to up to 2000 in the past 10 years. Drinks have roughly doubled in price since 2015.
Looking back it amazes me how I ran up 8000+ baht bills on drinks only back in 2015. That would be equivalent to guys spending 16,000 baht on just LD's these days.
Then add in a 3000+ at Hollywood, 500 at 7-11, and 5000 LT. Repeat night after night. No wonder I have no money left!Thank you Banana Boi for the real information historical and current.
Everyone now has a valid reference (from a reliable source) for the costs of top tier girls and the other expenses involved. But if the enjoyment they get from the money they spend is worth it to them, that is priceless!
Please excuse my misleading positivity
Forty Drinks
05-13-24, 06:41
Thank you Banana Boi for the real information historical and current.
Everyone now has a valid reference (from a reliable source) for the costs of top tier girls and the other expenses involved. But if the enjoyment they get from the money they spend is worth it to them, that is priceless!
Please excuse my misleading positivityBB referred to you as one who info is Illegitimate. Hahaha.
Not by name but by inference. Hahaha.
Banana Boi
05-13-24, 15:46
BB referred to you as one who info is Illegitimate. Hahaha.
Not by name but by inference. Hahaha.When did I do this? In general I don't attack people on this board and I wouldn't attack Sub cause he's my comedic relief on here.
Expat American
05-13-24, 17:09
You are keeping it 100.
You see I think everyone should go where they are treated best. If your eyes and your dick are not being treated well here in Pattaya, then ask yourself why are you here? Why do you visit?
When I got tired of the culture in LATAM countries I decided to take a break. Flew half-way around the world. What did I find? Pussy is Pussy! Latinas have better hardware overall. But Thai girls have much better software. This is no perfect pussy to be found, past, present or future. Although I am looking forward to going to a the first brothel staffed with sex robots.On this we are 100% in agreement. That is why my last few mongering trips have not been to Thailand. There are places with better value, sweeter more natural girls and more genuine experiences. They don't come with some of the other benefits of Thailand (awesome food, massage, beaches) so I still happily go to Thailand for holidays with my wife etc and but for a pure mongering weekend not so much anymore.
GettingTang
05-14-24, 00:25
I have a November trip planned to Pattaya and I'm meeting another fellow monger there. We're going to do our own thing but maybe have a beer from time to time and go on the prowl a couple times probably together. If there's any other mongers going to be there between November 12 and the end of the month hit me up, and I'll buy you some drinks and we can strategize together and you can join me in my new friend as well.
I've been a member of this form for about 30 years or more. Pretty much since it was around. I went to Thailand back in 1997 and I understand a lot has changed back then. I also paid my dues by reading through the last 120 pages here of which, if not most of my questions were answered and I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on how I want to go about things once I arrive. That information is priceless. I'm not here to talk about the good old days versus what it was back then and now. Everything always changes, that's life, and we learned work with it or we don't.
So here's a list of my questions that after reading the last 120 pages, I was still unable to find answers for. Some of them you might find almost comical, but they are actually real things to me. I believe in using any and all advantages when it comes to mongering.
1. I have a trimmed and kept beard about an inch or so long. I've read or heard the Thai women do not like or not as attracted to men with beards. I'll shave it off, even though it's kind of my identity, I could go without a beard for a couple of months it gives me an advantage, the women?
2. I can't believe this wasn't discussed, maybe it was and I missed it? But are Thai women into using toys? I have a pretty serious collection of toys some of which cost thousands of dollars dollars like a fucking machine, etc. And I'm not going to bring that to Thailand, but like a magic wand or handheld vibrators or dildos? Any of you ever use these on Thai women?
3. Yes, I'm a white American, I'm about 5 foot 11, this past year I've gotten my rear end in pretty good shape, I definitely don't look my age of 58. Where I fit in the "looks" department and I don't really care. I'm a man, not something I worry about, BUT What would be the best category of women for me to pursue in my position?
4. I like slutty women. Yes from time to time I want to do the young, sweet and shy girl but honestly as an older man who's lived a lot of life and had a lot of experiences. I like a good old-fashioned slutty woman. LOL I like a woman who likes to fuck. I like a woman who likes to suck dick and gets OFF on it. And occasionally I like a threesome. What are the odds of finding some real sluts in Pattaya? I can't stand the whole mechanical transaction like Tijuana. Been there done that. I will go out of my way to find the women who the money is secondary to. Where if any, is the best place to find these type of women?
5. I have been communicating via fetlife with the owners a (husband and wife, a Thai wife) of the gentleman's club called "whisper lounge" in Pattaya. They have assured me that most anything on my fantasy list can be found there. I looked at their website and they have photos of several of their women and they look OK. They are not stunners, but they are definitely fuckable by my standards. Has anyone been to this club and what would be your review of it?
6. I reading the gentlemen's clubs are cheaper. What are the best gentlemen clubs in your opinion and what are the price ranges to be found?
7. Read the first 120 pages of this Pattaya thread, I feel like Soi 6 is going to be my go to spot for the evening to find my last woman of the night. I'm not really going to be into going upstairs. I want to take back to my room where I can operate more freely and try and avoid the wham Bam type scenario that I mentioned above. How much is this going to set me back? Or is it really just better to take them upstairs and do the deed and leave? This leads to my next question of where and how is the best place to get a girl if you want her to stay for a few hours or long-term. Maybe even till morning?
8. to find the girls that are willing to do a threesome and would actually be into the idea of it and would get into having some pussy themselves, where is the best place to find this. I'm thinking to pick up a little hottie on Beach Road and ask her if she wants to bring a friend? Or would Soi 6 possibly be better for this?
9. I like a good bareback blowjob, I like a blowjob artist, I was spoiled rotten with a sugar baby here in the states who literally could orgasm from giving head. She liked it that much and she was that good at it. Any chance of finding that level of a blow job In Pattaya? Also, at the blowjob bars, can you do freaky things where you like you and another monger sit next to each other and you each have a girl sucking you off and then they switch and stuff like that? I like a good kinky scenario from time to time. It's like watching porn only live.
10. I want to have a massage in my room during the day, want a happy ending some days and probably just a massage others days if I need to recharge. Skip the happy ending, how much can I expect to pay for both types of massage and where is the best place or resources to find a reasonably placed women to come to my room for a massage?
11. Condoms, for 28 years of mongering I've always just used my own common sense and it hasn't let me down yet. I've never picked up anything. Yes I like to go raw. Who doesn't? The actual real feeling of that pussy, skin on skin, can't be replicated wrapping plastic around your dick. LOL how do you bring up negotiating this with the girls? Now I can tell you right now because I have my own methodology for who I'll wrap up and who I won't with. Some of the girls I may negotiate to go bareback with and then I might change my mind once the panties come off. It just depends. I've been snipped, so no worries about knocking anyone up.
12. I like good authentic Thai food like curry, pad Thai, and every once in a while, a good steak. Where are the best places to find these things? What are your favorite go to restaurants. I'll be on Soi 10.
13. I'll be staying on Soi 10 at "THE STAY HOTEL" It looks like a decent hotel. I included breakfast in my booking and it cost me about $63 per night which I know is ridiculous for Pattaya, especially booking this far in advance, but I am funny about my accommodations, I like to be comfortable and this is actually a real vacation for me. Anyone stay there and what are your thoughts on it? Can I walk to so six from there?
14. Since I won't have cell phone service because I use straight talk, I'll be relying on Wi-Fi. Do most of the bars, and different places around the restaurants the open beer bars, places like that do they have Wi-Fi connections?
15. And Thai Friendly, I've read a few times that it's basically a waste of time to start working that well in advance and that you should just do it once you're on the ground. If I get on Thai friendly and say 3 o'clock in the afternoon and I start messaging girls what are the odds that I'll be meeting up with one off of there by that evening? And is ฿2000 a reasonable expectation for a semi-attractive woman to come to your room for a couple of rounds?
November 12 through the end of the month I'll be there. If you're going to be there the same dates or part of the same dates, hit me up. The girls are great and all, but it's nice to have a fellow Western to chitchat with and share a beer with from time to time.
Any of these questions any fellow mongers can answer answer is greatly appreciated.
Mr Enternational
05-14-24, 01:14
I've been a member of this form for about 30 years or more.Was it on a stone tablet back then?
1. I have a trimmed and kept beard about an inch or so long. I've read or heard the Thai women do not like or not as attracted to men with beards. I'll shave it off, even though it's kind of my identity, I could go without a beard for a couple of months it gives me an advantage, the women?The only thing that gives you an advantage is money. They do not like the beard because it itches them. It has nothing to do with attraction.
10. I want to have a massage in my room during the day, want a happy ending some days and probably just a massage others days if I need to recharge. Skip the happy ending, how much can I expect to pay for both types of massage and where is the best place or resources to find a reasonably placed women to come to my room for a massage?Massage in your room is 500 baht for 1 hour.
12. I like good authentic Thai food like curry, pad Thai, and every once in a while, a good steak. Where are the best places to find these things? What are your favorite go to restaurants.There are 3 steak houses (Beefeater, Longhorn, Patrick's) in the alley at the corner of Second Road and Soi Diana (4 minute walk for you). For Thai food, Thepprasit Market from 5 pm to 10 pm or Treetown on Soi Buakhao from 3 pm until.
13. I'll be staying on Soi 10 at "THE STAY HOTEL" It looks like a decent hotel. Can I walk to so six from there?You can walk anywhere. The question is would you want to. It is a 20 minute walk. You can always take a motorbike taxi, baht bus, or Grab taxi.
14. Since I won't have cell phone service because I use straight talk, I'll be relying on Wi-Fi. Do most of the bars, and different places around the restaurants the open beer bars, places like that do they have Wi-Fi connections?This is 2024. You better go to AIS at Central Festival Mall to get a SIM card as soon as your hit town. Why go through all of that when you can have 24/7 internet for $20 for an entire month.
I have a November trip planned to Pattaya and I'm meeting another fellow monger there.
So here's a list of my questions that after reading the last 120 pages, I was still unable to find answers for. Some of them you might find almost comical, but they are actually real things to me. I believe in using any and all advantages when it comes to mongering.
1. I have a trimmed and kept beard about an inch or so long. I've read or heard the Thai women do not like or not as attracted to men with beards. I'll shave it off, even though it's kind of my identity, I could go without a beard for a couple of months it gives me an advantage, the women?
2. I can't believe this wasn't discussed, maybe it was and I missed it? But are Thai women into using toys? I have a pretty serious collection of toys some of which cost thousands of dollars dollars like a fucking machine, etc. And I'm not going to bring that to Thailand, but like a magic wand or handheld vibrators or dildos? Any of you ever use these on Thai women?
3. Yes, I'm a white American, I'm about 5 foot 11, this past year I've gotten my rear end in pretty good shape, I definitely don't look my age of 58. Where I fit in the "looks" department and I don't really care. I'm a man, not something I worry about, BUT What would be the best category of women for me to pursue in my position?
4. I like slutty women. Yes from time to time I want to do the young, sweet and shy girl but honestly as an older man who's lived a lot of life and had a lot of experiences. I like a good old-fashioned slutty woman. LOL I like a woman who likes to fuck. I like a woman who likes to suck dick and gets OFF on it. And occasionally I like a threesome. What are the odds of finding some real sluts in Pattaya? I can't stand the whole mechanical transaction like Tijuana. Been there done that. I will go out of my way to find the women who the money is secondary to. Where if any, is the best place to find these type of women?
5. I have been communicating via fetlife with the owners a (husband and wife, a Thai wife) of the gentleman's club called "whisper lounge" in Pattaya. They have assured me that most anything on my fantasy list can be found there. I looked at their website and they have photos of several of their women and they look OK. They are not stunners, but they are definitely fuckable by my standards. Has anyone been to this club and what would be your review of it?
6. I reading the gentlemen's clubs are cheaper. What are the best gentlemen clubs in your opinion and what are the price ranges to be found?
7. Read the first 120 pages of this Pattaya thread, I feel like Soi 6 is going to be my go to spot for the evening to find my last woman of the night. I'm not really going to be into going upstairs. I want to take back to my room where I can operate more freely and try and avoid the wham Bam type scenario that I mentioned above. How much is this going to set me back? Or is it really just better to take them upstairs and do the deed and leave? This leads to my next question of where and how is the best place to get a girl if you want her to stay for a few hours or long-term. Maybe even till morning?
8. to find the girls that are willing to do a threesome and would actually be into the idea of it and would get into having some pussy themselves, where is the best place to find this. I'm thinking to pick up a little hottie on Beach Road and ask her if she wants to bring a friend? Or would Soi 6 possibly be better for this?
9. I like a good bareback blowjob, I like a blowjob artist, I was spoiled rotten with a sugar baby here in the states who literally could orgasm from giving head. She liked it that much and she was that good at it. Any chance of finding that level of a blow job In Pattaya? Also, at the blowjob bars, can you do freaky things where you like you and another monger sit next to each other and you each have a girl sucking you off and then they switch and stuff like that? I like a good kinky scenario from time to time. It's like watching porn only live.
10. I want to have a massage in my room during the day, want a happy ending some days and probably just a massage others days if I need to recharge. Skip the happy ending, how much can I expect to pay for both types of massage and where is the best place or resources to find a reasonably placed women to come to my room for a massage?
11. Condoms, for 28 years of mongering I've always just used my own common sense and it hasn't let me down yet. I've never picked up anything. Yes I like to go raw. Who doesn't? The actual real feeling of that pussy, skin on skin, can't be replicated wrapping plastic around your dick. LOL how do you bring up negotiating this with the girls? Now I can tell you right now because I have my own methodology for who I'll wrap up and who I won't with. Some of the girls I may negotiate to go bareback with and then I might change my mind once the panties come off. It just depends. I've been snipped, so no worries about knocking anyone up.
12. I like good authentic Thai food like curry, pad Thai, and every once in a while, a good steak. Where are the best places to find these things? What are your favorite go to restaurants. I'll be on Soi 10.
13. I'll be staying on Soi 10 at "THE STAY HOTEL" It looks like a decent hotel. I included breakfast in my booking and it cost me about $63 per night which I know is ridiculous for Pattaya, especially booking this far in advance, but I am funny about my accommodations, I like to be comfortable and this is actually a real vacation for me. Anyone stay there and what are your thoughts on it? Can I walk to so six from there?
14. Since I won't have cell phone service because I use straight talk, I'll be relying on Wi-Fi. Do most of the bars, and different places around the restaurants the open beer bars, places like that do they have Wi-Fi connections?
15. And Thai Friendly, I've read a few times that it's basically a waste of time to start working that well in advance and that you should just do it once you're on the ground. If I get on Thai friendly and say 3 o'clock in the afternoon and I start messaging girls what are the odds that I'll be meeting up with one off of there by that evening? And is ฿2000 a reasonable expectation for a semi-attractive woman to come to your room for a couple of rounds?
November 12 through the end of the month I'll be there. If you're going to be there the same dates or part of the same dates, hit me up. The girls are great and all, but it's nice to have a fellow Western to chitchat with and share a beer with from time to time.
Any of these questions any fellow mongers can answer answer is greatly appreciated.Ok here goes on my own two cents:
1. The beard. If it's your identity do NOT shave it. You are 58 not 25. As such, the girls will look at your clothes, wallet and smile before your beard. If the clothes look decent and suggest cash, and you are not a cheap Charlie so buy drinks etc, and are polite to them, I would be literally amazed if you get a single rejection because of your beard. Keep it.
2. Toys. Absolutely no issue. I have my own collection and about one third of my suitcase weight on the flight was taken up with them! No issue in airports and got to use every single thing in my recent trip. The girls will be very willing provided you make clear it's all fun and all very optional. They don't like it (not just Thais but worldwide) if they think they are being made to use them. I always say "I respect the ladies so if you want to play and have some fun with these great but don't worry if not". If you keep it fun they'll go for it (particularly in gents clubs. See below).
3. Gents clubs. Slightly older but not a lot. Thai girls get to 29 and think they are too old for Agogos. Not true but a lot of them think so. So they head to GCs.
4. Again. Gents clubs. Several of your other questions relate to this one so see below.
5. One of the very few I've never been to. Give it a go but I suspect you'll find some of the better known might be better. Again see below.
6. Ok so whilst to each their own, my favourites are (a) Club Fate (b) New club on dark side Kiss (c) Club Purple on Bongkok 8. Not the Purple Cafe. (d) High rollers (e) Kinaree (f) catflaps. Prices. Nothing to enter in any of them. Drinks all very cheap. Beer bar prices a lot less than agogos on Walking St and elsewhere.
7. Totally disagree that Soi 6 will end up being your go to. It doesn't fit most of your detailed criteria. It is very much wham bham. A LOT of pretty young girls. Many of them very young, all keen and eager to please given they make cash out of the drinks you buy first. But they'll get you in the room and a lot of them want you to nut quickly so they can get back out front to snare the next punter. By all means take a look, but most of them will prefer you do the deed on site so they can get outside to get the next Joe after you, very little kinky stuff on 6, mostly just suck and fuck with a hottie for ST. I'm 60 so a little older. But am in a gym 6 days a week and can outlift 90% of the guys in the gym. But the girls on Pattaya don't care. They want young boyfriends (mainly Thai) so they will NOT be bothered that you've done wonders for 58. On Soi 6 most them want a quick drink, quicker fuck, next customer please. /.
8. 99% of them will lie to you that the are into threesomes. Truth is they are not. They want to eat pussy as much as you want root canal treatment but if you are paying enough they'll do it.
9. BBBJ. Available 99% of places in Thailand! No problem. Bareback. Not my thing at all and I think you are crazy and just asking for something which will trash the second part of your trip. Known that there is an untreatable strain of gonorrhoea there now which oozes gunge out of your dick. Lovely. Trust me. Get it and your mongering is dead for a month and you'll never ride bareback ever again. Get some decent ultra think condoms and you'll barely notice.
Kinky. Lots of it in Gents Clubs. Open nudity and play in Catflaps, Honey Lounge and many others. Your BBBJ scenario (later) happens daily in most Gc's.
10. There are thousands of good massage places without them coming to your room. You are located amidst a lot of them. Just go outside and pick.
11. Never stayed there so cannot comment but you should maybe think of spreading it around. Wave hotel Beach road is superb as is Soverign Jomtien. Which is quieter and better value for money and not that far.
12. No idea. I don't eat Thai food.
13. Condoms. Take your own and try ultra feel to avoid the above scenario.
14. TF - don’t bother - So many other options straight in front of you to need a quickie mid afternoon
15. Massage - available everywhere from 300 Bhat up to 1500. All dirt cheap - fill your boots.
That’s about it for my comments. You’ll have a blast - report back please .
Looking for recommendations for a higher end massage salon or spa in Pattaya where you can enjoy BOTH a professional massage and a quaranteed happy finish (preferably BBBJ). Or is this too much to hope for? In my experience it really seems that this is very much an either / or case and that you will not get both services at the same place. The more upscale places offering a quality massage usually don't have the extra services and also have older ladies working there and you would not be interested in them. And it is hopeless to get a really good massage in a Soi Honey type shop. Any exceptions you have experienced? Thanks in advance.
Yo Getting Tang.
I'm hideous, bearded, fat, old long haired stoned Yank. I am clean and do smell well, and my wallet bulges more than John Holmse's Johnson and the girls know it. I beat them off with a stick in Bangkok, not just the glorified brothel you are going to. When in doubt flash more cash.
1. I have a trimmed and kept beard about an inch or so long. I've read or heard the Thai women do not like or not as attracted to men with beards. I'll shave it off, even though it's kind of my identity, I could go without a beard for a couple of months it gives me an advantage, the women?There's no need to do that, as you are 58 it will not make a great difference.
2. I can't believe this wasn't discussed, maybe it was and I missed it? But are Thai women into using toys?Thai's are the same as any other, some will like it, others will not so take it easy.
3. Yes, I'm a white American, I'm about 5 foot 11, this past year I've gotten my rear end in pretty good shape, I definitely don't look my age of 58. Where I fit in the "looks" department and I don't really care. I'm a man, not something I worry about, BUT What would be the best category of women for me to pursue in my position?Just look for those who reciprocate, it won't be too hard.
5. I have been communicating via fetlife with the owners a (husband and wife, a Thai wife) of the gentleman's club called "whisper lounge" in Pattaya. They have assured me that most anything on my fantasy list can be found there. I looked at their website and they have photos of several of their women and they look OK. They are not stunners, but they are definitely fuckable by my standards. Has anyone been to this club and what would be your review of it?If you want BDSM, The Castle is recommended by those that are into it.
12. I like good authentic Thai food like curry, pad Thai, and every once in a while, a good steak. Where are the best places to find these things? What are your favorite go to restaurants. I'll be on Soi 10.A good location, I agree about Patricks for excellent steaks, Longhorn and Beefeater are a step behind but very good. On my last trip, I also indulged myself at Horizon at the Hilton where their steaks are great too.
13. I'll be staying on Soi 10 at "THE STAY HOTEL" It looks like a decent hotel. I included breakfast in my booking and it cost me about $63 per night which I know is ridiculous for Pattaya, especially booking this far in advance, but I am funny about my accommodations, I like to be comfortable and this is actually a real vacation for me. Anyone stay there and what are your thoughts on it? Can I walk to so six from there?I've not been there for a few years but it was really good with big rooms and very quiet. It does need a refurb though.
14. Since I won't have cell phone service because I use straight talk, I'll be relying on Wi-Fi. Do most of the bars, and different places around the restaurants the open beer bars, places like that do they have Wi-Fi connections?Get a Thai sim as you will need it, relying on bars and other locations for WI-FI will not be convenient. There will be many times you won't be able to connect and all too often you will be asking for the password. A Sim might set you back about 300 THB if you need it for a week, I think I paid 900 THB as I needed it longer.
15. And Thai Friendly, I've read a few times that it's basically a waste of time to start working that well in advance and that you should just do it once you're on the ground. If I get on Thai friendly and say 3 o'clock in the afternoon and I start messaging girls what are the odds that I'll be meeting up with one off of there by that evening? And is ฿2000 a reasonable expectation for a semi-attractive woman to come to your room for a couple of rounds?I use it a lot and never start a conversation until about an hour before I want to meet, then I always ask then to come over right away and it's always a surprise if they show up in 20 minutes. Prices are 1000 and up, I find the sweet spot to be getting closer to 2000 these days but I have still paid 1500 for for a good session or paid more for an average session. Filters on the photo's are nearly standard and you often end up with someone that does not look as good, it's also common to lie about age and weight. A review on https://tfmi.wtf helps avoid the worst experiences.
13. I'll be staying on Soi 10 at "THE STAY HOTEL" It looks like a decent hotel. I included breakfast in my booking and it cost me about $63 per night which I know is ridiculous for Pattaya, especially booking this far in advance, but I am funny about my accommodations, I like to be comfortable and this is actually a real vacation for me. Anyone stay there and what are your thoughts on it? Can I walk to so six from there?
14. Since I won't have cell phone service because I use straight talk, I'll be relying on Wi-Fi. Do most of the bars, and different places around the restaurants the open beer bars, places like that do they have Wi-Fi connections?I was at The Stay Hotel last fall. Outstanding location, huge decent rooms, good (but pricey) buffet breakfast. Not a lot of choice at the breakfast buffet but the food is very good IMHO. To get to Soi 6 it is best to walk from the hotel to Second Road, a two minute walk. Hop on a baht bus (runs every minute or two) and pay B10, and get off on Soi 6. Returning from Soi 6, walk to Beach Rd and a baht bus will drop you off at Soi 10. It's a 1 or 2 minute walk to the beach from the hotel and maybe 10 minutes walk to Treetown. 7-11's, ATMs, cheap laundry are nearby. The Stay is an excellent choice although US $63 is not cheap. I got it for US $40 in low season.
The others' advice about getting a Thai Sim Card is very good advice. It's nice to have a local number to call girls, Bolt, airlines, etc. Just make sure your phone is unlocked. You'll need your phone to be unlocked to use a Thai Sim Card.
LocalExplorer
05-14-24, 13:01
4. I like slutty women. Yes from time to time I want to do the young, sweet and shy girl but honestly as an older man who's lived a lot of life and had a lot of experiences. I like a good old-fashioned slutty woman. LOL I like a woman who likes to fuck. I like a woman who likes to suck dick and gets OFF on it. And occasionally I like a threesome. What are the odds of finding some real sluts in Pattaya? I can't stand the whole mechanical transaction like Tijuana. Been there done that. I will go out of my way to find the women who the money is secondary to. Where if any, is the best place to find these type of women?
9. I like a good bareback blowjob, I like a blowjob artist, I was spoiled rotten with a sugar baby here in the states who literally could orgasm from giving head. She liked it that much and she was that good at it. Any chance of finding that level of a blow job In Pattaya? Also, at the blowjob bars, can you do freaky things where you like you and another monger sit next to each other and you each have a girl sucking you off and then they switch and stuff like that? I like a good kinky scenario from time to time. It's like watching porn only live.Avoid beer bars at all cost, that's the straight opposite of what you want. Soi 6 will be a waste of time unless perhaps you want to invest time and money with vanilla sex LT first (ST is pure wham-bam) and then shower a girl with $$ dunno, perhaps that could work, but that's very inefficient.
Try Lips Lounge Soi Honey for one type of entertainment, Kink for another type. Freaky slutty things are the bread and butter in both, just different freaky.
And GCs, especially Purple Club & Carre Blanc both on Soi Bongkot 8, Club Fate, Telephone Bar Club, but I've seen things happen in many other. Go for the older ladies! The older the sluttier, usually.
14. Since I won't have cell phone service because I use straight talk, I'll be relying on Wi-Fi. Do most of the bars, and different places around the restaurants the open beer bars, places like that do they have Wi-Fi connections?Some do, but it's a pain. Get an eSIM, not a regular SIM, it has absolutely no relation to the SIM and plan back home. You'll keep your home number live, all the apps and setup. Totally worth it, and something like $10, and no waiting in the mobile operator's office (you send a picture of your ID document online).
15. And Thai Friendly, I've read a few times that it's basically a waste of time to start working that well in advance and that you should just do it once you're on the ground. If I get on Thai friendly and say 3 o'clock in the afternoon and I start messaging girls what are the odds that I'll be meeting up with one off of there by that evening? And is ฿2000 a reasonable expectation for a semi-attractive woman to come to your room for a couple of rounds?It's the best place to look for hot girls, you just have to select well. I've had only good experiences, but I was very picky. Write with many girls at the same time, it will work out with few. Drop any contacts that: sound fishy, ask strange questions or spam you. Video call via Line, drop contacts who refuse to or send you more pics instead. That can take up to 2-4 hours, since the girls respond with much delay, so best to start after lunch. But then you've probably screened girls for the next few days, so it will be much quicker.
Forty Drinks
05-14-24, 13:56
You just never know.
Soi 6 is Volatile.
Liquids of all places on Tuesday may14 has quite a collection of acceptable girls. Like maybe 5. Usually they got None. Hahaha.
TwatHunter
05-14-24, 14:17
(QUOTE=GettingTang;2915266]I have a November trip planned to Pattaya and I'm meeting another fellow monger there. We're going to do our own thing but maybe have a beer from time to time and go on the prowl a couple times probably together. If there's any other mongers going to be there between November 12 and the end of the month hit me up, and I'll buy you some drinks and we can strategize together and you can join me in my new friend as well).
I'll be there Nov 7th - 21st. First time for me in Asia. I wouldn't mind grabbing a beer and twat hunting together LOL. I am staying down by walking street on beach Road. Baywalk. The video I've watched on soi 6 don't really include many girls that do it for me. I'm looking for the young spinners, I know it will cost but I'm also hoping TF will come through too. I would imagine a lot of the girls from Vietnam and Cambodia use it since they can't work in go gos.
13. I'll be staying on Soi 10 at "THE STAY HOTEL" It looks like a decent hotel. I included breakfast in my booking and it cost me about $63 per night which I know is ridiculous for Pattaya, especially booking this far in advance, but I am funny about my accommodations, I like to be comfortable and this is actually a real vacation for me. Anyone stay there and what are your thoughts on it? Can I walk to so six from there?Came back a few weeks ago from my last trip and I spent a few weeks at page 10 hotel which is next doors basically from where you will be staying, can't say anything about your hotel but from what I saw from outside but it looks good, good WIFI / internet as I could see the connection from my hotel / room and front looks good although hardly new / fresh. Location is great, go towards beach road if you want to go south (walking street) or the other way if you want to go towards soi 6/ other areas and gents clubs. I would not recommend walking to soi 6 as its bit of distance.
I never woke up in time for hotel breakfast at vacations so I always skipped that but took a few minutes walk to Hemingway's restaurant which is an absolute gem if you want to relax in a good western place for that "feeling of home", great western food, tv everywhere for sport events and its very popular among non-Thai There are a few 7/11 close as well as a couple of massage shops so starting the day and getting whatever you need, a foot massage and meal there and you are ready for a day of fun.
..... my wallet bulges more than John Holmse's Johnson and the girls know it......The girls run to a bulging wallet but run away from a bulging crotch unless next to it is an even bigger protruding pocket.
Member #4813
05-15-24, 05:33
Besides freelancers, is BBFS available? Bars, discos, massage joints, etc? Can one get it there? Any other thoughts?
StudBucket
05-15-24, 05:56
Besides freelancers, is BBFS available? Bars, discos, massage joints, etc? Can one get it there? Any other thoughts?I have had it there, but your best chance is with Freelancers on WS, in the discos (Insomnia,) and the girls online such as Thai Friendly and Fiwfans. Just going to have to ask them, all they can do is say no. Be prepared to offer a little more baht also as a tip. Getting BB it in massage places, go go bars, Soi 6, G Clubs can happen on occasion but you may need to develop into a good client or have great chemistry with a gal that is willing.
Forty Drinks
05-15-24, 14:37
1500 offered and accepted. Was it worth it-yes.
Problem was size of Tiddies. End of experience.
Everything else in order, face, gap proportions etc. Hahaha.
Soi 6 is fine. Budget entertainment.
Any oil massage aficianados know the current going rate for a one hour oil massage with HJ finish?
When I was there last year it was still around 700-800 THB if I remember correctly. Curious if anything has changed or how much others are being charged.
Gracias.
Any oil massage aficianados know the current going rate for a one hour oil massage with HJ finish?
When I was there last year it was still around 700-800 THB if I remember correctly. Curious if anything has changed or how much others are being charged.
Gracias.It's still the same. They ask for 1000, but you can bring it down. You can even get an BBBJ / CBJ for this price. Try the ones around Walking Street. Not all of them offer extras.
Any oil massage aficianados know the current going rate for a one hour oil massage with HJ finish?
When I was there last year it was still around 700-800 THB if I remember correctly. Curious if anything has changed or how much others are being charged.
Gracias.Although I do my best to avoid the happy ending only with only a HJ, when I have found myself in the situation where the massage therapist was not offering me the services I was seeking for the price I was willing to pay the price was indeed 700 THB.
HEM with BBBJ / CIM 1000 THB.
HEM with CFS 1200 - 1500 THB.
Happy ending massage (HEM) is one of my favorite activities here in Pattaya!
Besides freelancers, is BBFS available? Bars, discos, massage joints, etc? Can one get it there? Any other thoughts?Is. But keep handy some metronidazole or tinidazole (for trichomoniasis). Viral STDs, such as herpes, must be treated with antiviral drugs.
Although I do my best to avoid the happy ending only with only a HJ, when I have found myself in the situation where the massage therapist was not offering me the services I was seeking for the price I was willing to pay the price was indeed 700 THB.
HEM with BBBJ / CIM 1000 THB.
HEM with CFS 1200 - 1500 THB.
Happy ending massage (HEM) is one of my favorite activities here in Pattaya!Thanks for the feedback Sub and SeaWalker.
Perhaps the most enjoyable aspect of Pattaya is simply walking around and endulging in the countless massage shops littered throughout the city. $20 for a nice rub and tug is insane value.
Thanks for the feedback Sub and SeaWalker.
Perhaps the most enjoyable aspect of Pattaya is simply walking around and endulging in the countless massage shops littered throughout the city. $20 for a nice rub and tug is insane value.You are welcome CaliGuy. Posts like yours make me want to continue to share information.
For me heading away from the beach on Central Pattaya Road past Soi Buakhao presents some of the best offerings Pattaya has. Plus good food, gold shops and medical care are on offering there also. Do not sleep on the offerings on the side streets as you walk down Central Pattaya. But I have never been to the Darkside.
Forty Drinks
05-18-24, 01:40
Buddy's Bar had one of the Prettiest girl I've seen in a few years in Thailand, white skin. Don't know if she was on offer. Soi Honey.
If you ever wondered if ugly tall ladyboy massagist get customer s the answer is I Guess So.
A big Swede took one for a massage in Soi Honey.
Soi 6 Goodfellas got interior upgraded. Had people inside. Don't know if paying Customer s though. The 3 300 lb girls probably were Fired. No worries there's other places who would love them on their payroll. Hahaha.
Forty Drinks
05-18-24, 04:52
I'm inner channeling my Goatsvroat.
In 1999 massages could be had by attractive girls. Now only girls on offer are those attractive to our BeLoved SUB. LOL.
Yes I realize there are Exception s.
I see them but they are so hard to find when you see one you really aren't looking for one.
Is. But keep handy some metronidazole or tinidazole (for trichomoniasis). Viral STDs, such as herpes, must be treated with antiviral drugs.In case of problem Better go direct tò Bangkok Pattaya hospital in second Road instead of suffer alone in the room. Better in the day.
Explorer8939
05-18-24, 12:25
I'm inner channeling my Goatsvroat.
In 1999 massages could be had by attractive girls. Now only girls on offer are those attractive to our BeLoved SUB. LOL.
Yes I realize there are Exception s.
I see them but they are so hard to find when you see one you really aren't looking for one.Not a very useful post.
There are attractive massage ladies, but you have to look for them, same as back in 1999. No point in asking where, because attractive massage ladies don't last very long before some lonely guy throws money at them.
Forty Drinks
05-18-24, 15:58
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You are welcome CaliGuy. Posts like yours make me want to continue to share information.
For me heading away from the beach on Central Pattaya Road past Soi Buakhao presents some of the best offerings Pattaya has. Plus good food, gold shops and medical care are on offering there also. Do not sleep on the offerings on the side streets as you walk down Central Pattaya. But I have never been to the Darkside.How about the TF rates? Last year I was getting ST off TF for 1,000-1,200 THB. I recall you would get around the same. Any changes in pricing there?
Wouldn't surprise me if 1,500 has become the standard or at least the expectation from the ladies as it kind of was last year, but a little bargaining and sending out ample messages on TF goes a long way.
FFlintstone69
05-19-24, 03:28
Anyone happen to see any electric bike rentals around town, I haven't had any luck with Mr Google.
How about the TF rates? Last year I was getting ST off TF for 1,000-1,200 THB. I recall you would get around the same. Any changes in pricing there?
Wouldn't surprise me if 1,500 has become the standard or at least the expectation from the ladies as it kind of was last year, but a little bargaining and sending out ample messages on TF goes a long way.Decent-looking Ladies on TF have been quoting 2000 for some time as far as I'm concerned.
Forty Drinks
05-19-24, 05:40
Hottest girl on Walking Street is at Sharks. Just might spend $175 for a short time.
There just isn't any Hotter.
I made contact and she seemed Ok. I'd be perfectly fine if she just lay there like a Dead Fish. She is that Hot.
Forty Drinks
05-19-24, 05:42
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How about the TF rates? Last year I was getting ST off TF for 1,000-1,200 THB. I recall you would get around the same. Any changes in pricing there?
Wouldn't surprise me if 1,500 has become the standard or at least the expectation from the ladies as it kind of was last year, but a little bargaining and sending out ample messages on TF goes a long way.I was in Pattaya a few weeks ago. The most common asking price is 1500. Some above average or hot looking girls ask for 2000.
I had no problem finding good looking girls for 1500, for BBBJ and BBFSCIP.
8. to find the girls that are willing to do a threesome and would actually be into the idea of it and would get into having some pussy themselves, where is the best place to find this. I'm thinking to pick up a little hottie on Beach Road and ask her if she wants to bring a friend? Or would Soi 6 possibly be better for this? You could try Thai Friendly, but you will probably have to send many messages to random girls before you hit the jackpot. Over the years I have seen only a few girls on TF who wrote in their profile that they like women too. Of course you could mention in your own profile that you're looking for a MFF threesome, but I'm not sure if TF accepts this.
10. I want to have a massage in my room during the day, want a happy ending some days and probably just a massage others days if I need to recharge. Skip the happy ending, how much can I expect to pay for both types of massage and where is the best place or resources to find a reasonably placed women to come to my room for a massage? Be aware that a massage lady (no matter if you want a happy ending or not) will usually ask you to put a towel on the bed, because of the oil she is using. And she might also use the towel to rub excess oil from your body. This means you cannot receive another girl in your room anymore the same day, unless you can get an extra towel from house keeping. If they are still around anyway; they are usually gone after 6 or 7 PM. I don't have much experience with this, so I don't know how difficult or easy it is. It might depend on the hotel and their house rules, and a tip of 50 or 100 THB is most likely expected.
11. Condoms, for 28 years of mongering I've always just used my own common sense and it hasn't let me down yet. I've never picked up anything. Yes I like to go raw. Who doesn't? The actual real feeling of that pussy, skin on skin, can't be replicated wrapping plastic around your dick. LOL how do you bring up negotiating this with the girls? Now I can tell you right now because I have my own methodology for who I'll wrap up and who I won't with. Some of the girls I may negotiate to go bareback with and then I might change my mind once the panties come off. It just depends. I've been snipped, so no worries about knocking anyone up. I'm with you here, BBFS is the best. And since I do not want to use condoms at all anymore, simply because I cannot keep it up with a condom, let alone finish, I'm almost exclusively using TF to find my girls. Because in TF you can ask them discretely and beforehand if they are willing to bareback. In a bar or agogo this is usually much more difficult.
Some girls will ask for more money, but I when I say that I never pay more than 1500, they usually bite.
Another option is a massage parlor, where you can whisper in her ear what you want. But good looking (young) girls are quite rare in the parlors.
13. I'll be staying on Soi 10 at "THE STAY HOTEL" It looks like a decent hotel. Be aware that there is a beer bar complex at the corner of Soi 10 and Second Road, so very close to the Stay, which is noisy until at least 2 AM every day. So if you are not a night owl, this hotel is not for you.
14. Since I won't have cell phone service because I use straight talk, I'll be relying on Wi-Fi. Do most of the bars, and different places around the restaurants the open beer bars, places like that do they have Wi-Fi connections? Buy a SIM card with unlimited data at the airport when you arrive. You can even buy one in the baggage hall, when you're waiting for your luggage. As already said by others, Wi-Fi is a hassle and the SIM cards are not expensive. And beside that you will need the app Line to stay in touch with the girls. I'm sure you've read about Line on this forum.
15. And Thai Friendly, I've read a few times that it's basically a waste of time to start working that well in advance and that you should just do it once you're on the ground. If I get on Thai friendly and say 3 o'clock in the afternoon and I start messaging girls what are the odds that I'll be meeting up with one off of there by that evening? And is ฿2000 a reasonable expectation for a semi-attractive woman to come to your room for a couple of rounds? 3 o'clock might even be too early, if you want to meet them in the evening. TF gets really going after 7 or 8 PM, and keeps going until the next morning around 8 or 9 AM. Although I don't know if there is a dip in between, because most of the time I'm not online between 11 PM and 7 AM.
And as already said: 1500 THB is a reasonable expectation for a semi-attractive woman to come to your room (although some board members say they get them for (much) less).
I was in Pattaya the last few weeks and on TF 1500 has been the norm, but offering that rate also means you will not get a reply from everyone. In other places it is either 1500 or 2000 (soi 6, LK, Bukhao area). Only a couple of girls in soi 6 or Kinnaree wanted a rubber (although on soi 6 every gave some indication that it could be negotiated, but I wasn't willing to go above 2000). To be clear, with a couple exceptions at 1500 and good service, all the girls I took to a room or my room where below 22. Most below 20 even. Also all between 37 and 45 kg.
To be honest, there also were a handful of these young girls who were willing to have drinks, but came up with excuses to not have to do more (especially on the 6). Some were really all over me with plenty of DFK, during the drink. But nothing more.
On soi 10 I would think the Stay is far enough down the road, not to be too affected by the beer bars. Even Page 10 (which is much closer), isn't affected that badly.
The Cmdr speaks on his experiences with Thai Friendly
I have many friends that ask me about Pattaya. Question number one is: "How much for (fill in the blank)"?
Of the many prostitutes I have found in entered into negotiations with off of Thai Friendly I have been quoted prices from 800 - 5000 THB (Short Time). I tell me friends that you pay the amount that you want to your prostitutes and you get out of them what you negotiate with them. It is really just that simple. Those who are being honest with themselves will acknowledge that we all have different tastes and we want different things from our prostitutes. No one is providing a list of services that they ask for or detailed descriptions (or photos) of the types prostitutes they like to hire.
I have no problem finding prostitutes that I wish to hire for between 800 - 2000 THB using Thai Friendly. Those who want to be paid on the upper end of the range, I require more out of them. Here is my problem, if I have a prostitute that will provide the services I seek at a lower price than one who wants more money, I have a problem giving my business to the higher priced prostitute. The prostitutes I repeat with give me better and better service. Without adding to the price. That adds value for me. So when I run into a prostitute that is asking for upper end of the range, but I have prostitutes that are providing me with excellent service at the lower end of the range, they better be bringing something new to the table that I am seeking.
How about the TF rates? Last year I was getting ST off TF for 1,000-1,200 THB. I recall you would get around the same. Any changes in pricing there?
Wouldn't surprise me if 1,500 has become the standard or at least the expectation from the ladies as it kind of was last year, but a little bargaining and sending out ample messages on TF goes a long way.
And as already said: 1500 THB is a reasonable expectation for a semi-attractive woman to come to your room (although some board members say they get them for (much) less).Exactly how much is much less?
USD is the base currency I operate in. 800 THB (22.08 USD) - 2000 THB (55.20 USD) that is a 32.40 USD difference between the top and the bottom of the range. 1500 TBH (41.40 USD); 1000 TBH (27.60 USD); the different between those two are 13.80 USD.
Now I am not like this guy:
Dudes, you are arguing over 500 B. Thats $14. I wipe my ass with 20s. Stop embarrassing yourselves.I wouldn't deface US currency as it is against the law (in the DisUnited States of America). Exchange places look down upon 20's here in Thailand (especially when they are not crisp and new). Although you could wash the currency after using it to "wipe your ass", that would give an entirely new meaning to the term "money laundering". LOL! I wonder how much my laundry service would charge me for that here in Pattaya. ROTFLMAO!
If I say I routinely hire prostitutes I find on Thai Friendly for 1000 THB (leaving out everyone's definition of what an attractive prostitute looks like) the point to be made here is a 14.00 difference. Now I do not know everyone's budget, but I would not say I am getting girls off of Thai Friendly for "much less" than the current price consensus.
Explorer8939
05-19-24, 12:17
Some notes on girl-girl action:
First off, a lot of bar girls will go through the motions with another bargirl that she knows, a "lesbi show". Not too satisfying.
Secondly, in real life, there's a cultural taboo against girl-girl relationships. Boy-boy is okay, girl-tomboy is okay, but not girl-girl.
So, the trick is to find the rare bargirl who lusts after another girl, which is not so easy. Some bargirls only lust after a specific girl, otherwise they have no interest.
Occasionally, you will run into a bargirl who can do a lesbi show with another bargirl who is a real lesbian, and then the show gets pretty real.
I personally don't go for lesbi shows, but I know a couple of wannabe lesbians who don't know how or what to do. They just don't get off with sex with men, but they get horny. And if they get the chance, they will feel up another lady. Their problem is it takes money to fuck a lady in Pattaya and they don't have disposable income.
KrumeLurer
05-19-24, 17:22
So 2000 for average looking irls is no the norm on soi 6? I saw this on a forum.
Check the pictures. Its just outrageous how they are overcharing tourists.
That girl would never dream of asking more than a 1000 from a thai customer.
So 2000 for average looking irls is no the norm on soi 6? I saw this on a forum.
Check the pictures. Its just outrageous how they are overcharing tourists.
That girl would never dream of asking more than a 1000 from a thai customer.Average price for ST on Soi 6 when I was there last year was 1,000 THB for the lady plus the room fee. Don't be a sucker and pay more than 1,000 THB.
The Cmdr speaks on his experiences with Thai Friendly
I have many friends that ask me about Pattaya. Question number one is: "How much for (fill in the blank)"?
Of the many prostitutes I have found in entered into negotiations with off of Thai Friendly I have been quoted prices from 800 - 5000 THB (Short Time). I tell me friends that you pay the amount that you want to your prostitutes and you get out of them what you negotiate with them. It is really just that simple. Those who are being honest with themselves will acknowledge that we all have different tastes and we want different things from our prostitutes. No one is providing a list of services that they ask for or detailed descriptions (or photos) of the types prostitutes they like to hire.
I have no problem finding prostitutes that I wish to hire for between 800 - 2000 THB using Thai Friendly. Those who want to be paid on the upper end of the range, I require more out of them. Here is my problem, if I have a prostitute that will provide the services I seek at a lower price than one who wants more money, I have a problem giving my business to the higher priced prostitute. The prostitutes I repeat with give me better and better service. Without adding to the price. That adds value for me. So when I run into a prostitute that is asking for upper end of the range, but I have prostitutes that are providing me with excellent service at the lower end of the range, they better be bringing something new to the table that I am seeking..Thanks for all the replies on TF rates.
Sounds like 1,500 is the average price but the range varies.
I'm with you Sub, I'll take the lower end of the price spectrum and pocket the difference for further pay for play sessions or food etc.
Going with a 1 k THB TF lady instead of say the 2 k THB lady, frees 1 k THB. That 1 K THB equates to an hour oil massage with HJ finish and dinner haha.
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Average price for ST on Soi 6 when I was there last year was 1,000 THB for the lady plus the room fee. Don't be a sucker and pay more than 1,000 THB.1000 is finished long time ago over there, unless you take the fat ass that blocks your way and force you into her bar.
Thanks for all the replies on TF rates.You are welcome! Like I mentioned before positive feed back creates a desire to share information.
Sounds like 1,500 is the average price but the range varies.Exactly! I make an offer at the price point I think the girl deserves. She either accepts it or counters. If she counters inside the range I'll add a specific service that I want. If she is willing to provide it we have a deal. Like I said, people pay what they want, they get what they negotiate.
I'm with you Sub, I'll take the lower end of the price spectrum and pocket the difference for further pay for play sessions or food etc. Going with a 1 k THB TF lady instead of say the 2 k THB lady, frees 1 k THB. That 1 K THB equates to an hour oil massage with HJ finish and dinner haha.No doubt. Along with the savings of THB, others have confirmed that they have found attractive prostitutes in the overall price range.
Beach Road prices range from 1000 - 2000 THB short time. Plus the cost of a short time room (250 THB). You can save the 250 THB if you take them back to your own room.
Gentleman's clubs are going to be 1000 - 1500 THB for the girl; 400 - 500 for the room; and whatever you choose to spend on Lady drinks and drinks for yourself. You can also bar fine the staff there and I have been told by my friends that the rates for an overnight are reasonable.
It is the man in the arena that counts
On soi 10 I would think the Stay is far enough down the road, not to be too affected by the beer bars. Even Page 10 (which is much closer), isn't affected that badly.They often have live bands playing at those beer bars, and they are very loud.
Exactly how much is much less? Mr. E. always claims that he pays only 1000 or 1200 Baht for LONGtime.
Mr Enternational
05-20-24, 06:50
Mr. E. always claims that he pays only 1000 or 1200 Baht for LONGtime.He not only claims it, but he shows it too. She makes 600 baht all day at 7-Eleven. She makes 1200 baht all night with me.
Mr. E. always claims that he pays only 1000 or 1200 Baht for LONGtime.The original question was about Short Time rates. So, those are the answers that were proffered. I every economy there is the insider rate and the outsider rate. It is up to the individual to know their prices and do what they need to do if they wish to get lower rates.
I suppose that if the question was posed for long time rates the answers would be very different, Many others posting in other threads speak of those prices:
For short trips, 2000 baht a day. For extremely long trips 1000 baht a day.
Yep, 1000 b a day plus expenses is the number.I don't do what they do so for the most part I cannot comment on the rates paid to take your prostitute on trips or to have her spend the night with you. But personally I do not feel that making the comparison between long time prices and short time prices is accurate. Precisely because of the portion I highlighted in bold. The objective measure of price is Cost Per Orgasm (CPO). The formula is that you take the total costs involved in getting your orgasms and divide that total by the number orgasms you received.
Example presented below:
A lady with me now talked about her Korean customers. Lots of drinks, not much sex, good money. Except one guy who fucked her 10 times and gave her 10,000 baht.So, I would say this guy did pretty good for himself. 10000 THB /10 orgasms = 1000 THB / CPO.
LocalExplorer
05-20-24, 11:32
I've been quoted 1500 for ST and 3000 for LT very consistently on TF, in beer bars, massage parlours and GCs. In gogos it's 3000ST, and usually 5000 LT. BJ in a GC would be anything between 500 to 800 or 1000, plus a room fee and LD which bumps the overall prices well above 1000. I have once been offered and took LT for 2000, from a beer bar, but it wasn't worth it at all.
The quoted prices do not seem to depend on the quality of the lady, or her skills, motivation etc. I can totally picture getting very heavy discounts from 50+ year old Ladies, or 40+ in bad shape, especially Beach Road and TF. And even more so if you're a regular. I understand if someone isn't very picky about who they bang, I'm not!, but honestly I can get that back home for free (nymphos).
I would guess it's still possible to negotiate even with the more attractive ladies, but I couldn't be bothered, nor did I want the negative emotions. I'd rather focus on getting best quality in that price range, and I'd pay extra if the performance was really good. I had one hot girl who I tipped just over 500 THB ask me "why are you giving me so much money?" with a totally puzzled look on her face. She was 22, the experience was spectacular, and I really wanted her to come back, she did!
Oh, and taking girls from gogos doesn't really make much sense. You can try it a few times for the experience, but for me their allure is the entertainment skills they have, which don't matter much in a 1-on-1 situation. So it makes sense only if she's hot, very young, and very willing, and you don't feel like looking for a girl elsewhere.
FFlintstone69
05-20-24, 12:49
He not only claims it, but he shows it too. You're not showing anything but a 7-11 shirt, show her face bro.
LocalExplorer
05-20-24, 13:00
Buy a SIM card with unlimited data at the airport when you arrive. You can even buy one in the baggage hall, when you're waiting for your luggage. As already said by others, Wi-Fi is a hassle and the SIM cards are not expensive. And beside that you will need the app Line to stay in touch with the girls. I'm sure you've read about Line on this forum.To each his own, a physical SIM is OK if your phone is a dual physical SIM device (iPhone is not!) or you're spending at least a few months in Thailand. I've tried both SIM and eSIM, and physical SIM is a big hassle especially when you're exhausted and jet-lagged, and then I had problems with a few of my apps that relied on the phone number. I had no access to my original phone number most of the time and people were trying to reach me pretty often. ESIM could be too expensive in the long run, but it's much more convenient, especially for vacations.
3 o'clock might even be too early, if you want to meet them in the evening. TF gets really going after 7 or 8 PM, and keeps going until the next morning around 8 or 9 AM. Although I don't know if there is a dip in between, because most of the time I'm not online between 11 PM and 7 AM.
And as already said: 1500 THB is a reasonable expectation for a semi-attractive woman to come to your room (although some board members say they get them for (much) less).That was not my experience. At 3 PM TF would be buzzing with life, IMHO it's a good time to start if you don't have contacts established. Perhaps a bit early if you already have contacts, and want a girl at night. Some of the freelancers who have a day job start looking for customers shortly before their shift is over. I would start getting pinged by previous "dates", and girls whom I had not answered the previous day at around 10-11 AM. Also, bored massage girls sit on TF all day. But you know, there's someone on TF at any imaginable hour.
So 2000 for average looking irls is no the norm on soi 6? I saw this on a forum.
Check the pictures. Its just outrageous how they are overcharing tourists.
That girl would never dream of asking more than a 1000 from a thai customer.Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.
1000 is finished long time ago over there, unless you take the fat ass that blocks your way and force you into her bar.I got 1 k regularly on Soi 6 just 8 months ago and the ladies I took were attractive. Certainly not tier 1 ladies, but I would say tier 2 ladies and attractive with nice bodies.
I can't imagine things have changed too much in 8 or so months. It was also the deepest portion of low season (Aug, Sept, Oct) so that must help with getting cheaper rates.
You can set two sims on your iPhone, just not two physical so one normal SIM and one ESIM, had no issue setting up it during my last trip, I went for Thai ESIM and had it set online prior to arrival and, worked well, it was 25 USD via AIS for 30 days /60 gb but there are shorter plans as well.
Regarding prices, it's about equal between bars and tf cause although girls are usually cheaper in bars, you also pay for some drinks. But obviously, it varies, some guys here will quote really low numbers and although it's possible it usually requires some specific condition like low season / early during day or late at night when demand is low or a familiarity with the girl. The most common price I paid was 2000, with the cheaper girls you can end up just being disappointed with what shows up at your door, being a cheap charlie works for some but it aint for me.
FFlintstone69
05-21-24, 04:10
Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.With a defeatist attitude like yours we are all doomed.
Explorer8939
05-21-24, 05:04
Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.It's pretty sad if a Thai man pays for sex in Pattaya. Most of the ladies who come to Pattaya are looking for a Thai mate, since they have kids and most can't find a boyfriend in the village where they lived. They are hoping for a Thai man who has money, so the lady can stop work bar, but it's more common for the Thai man to scrounge off her. And, since she works long hours, the Thai man's goal is for him to stop work and use her money to secure other ladies.
No matter how smart a bar girl is when it comes to manipulating Farang customers, if she falls in love with a Thai man, she loses her mind.
LoveItHere69
05-21-24, 10:11
He not only claims it, but he shows it too. She makes 600 baht all day at 7-Eleven. She makes 1200 baht all night with me.Your pix show nothing. No face. No body shape. Minimum would be a tight body fitting dress minus the face or better a bikini picture. A lot of what you post is pretty much correct when talking about hotels, transportation, ATM / money, etc. The problem is as soon as you talk about yourself it turns to 90% BS. The worst part is you actually believe all your self hype.
LocalExplorer
05-21-24, 13:58
OK, some more tales / advice coming to you from Pattaya. This time about customer types.
There's the East Asian customer, too often blamed for all things wrong in Pattaya. Actually, that's not my experience. I've seen dozens of them drinking by themselves or in small groups and being extremely assertive about not buying LDs. I was quietly cheerleading for them! When they get ripped off, sooner or later we all suffer! I haven't seen considerable money being thrown around, but I suspect the Koreans and Japanese have on average shorter holidays, so they might be less picky about when they really start paying, due to simple time constraints. Most of them are a bit younger than the average farang, I'd say typically aged 35-50. Very few would qualify as "hot", that's also a bit of a myth.
The Lone Russian. Russians abound, not only on Jomtien, but also around Second Road / CentralPattaya Festival. They rarely go into sex venues, but a small percentage of a large number is still noticeable. On a Friday night between 9-11 PM I found myself in multiple gogos, filled exclusively with lone Russians aged 35-40, and non of them was buying LDs. I guess it makes sense for them, it's the cheapest form of entertainment in Pattaya. However, this usually meant that despite not being Russian, I would still get classified as "another one of them", and attention from girls was limited to say the least. I understand, the girls have to profile the customers somehow. Just be aware of it when you pop your head into a gogo.
The Rich Thai. Yes, they exists, and they go to gogos. The giveaway are mixed-sex Asian group, good clothing, and most of all light skin (pointed out to me by working girls). The rich Thai are never shocked by what they see and they come to have fun. They buy LDs. On 3 different occasions they bought ME a drink, usually accompanied by a quote along the lines of "We like the way you are having fun". I dunno if those were status statements, but who cares, the important part was that I had more booze. Unfortunately, their ladies do not get carried away and do not strip.
By the way, from conversations with the ladies I've noticed skin tone is extremely important for the Thais. If you're like me and don't care about it, it might be a good tactic to actually prefer the dark-skinned girls whenever possible. They're just as nice and good looking, but they probably try harder.
I should write also about The Dumb Farang, The Old Farang, and the Thai Escort (to a farang), perhaps I missed a few more.
LocalExplorer
05-21-24, 14:26
You're not showing anything but a 7-11 shirt, show her face bro.Actually, getting girls who have a day job is a very good tactic, I did that too, including a girl who used to work in a 7-Eleven. They're not as hardened, they don't get tons of advice from friends / coworkers about how to milk you more effectively, and they don't have the time to do the planning either. And they're more likely to go for the customer they already know rather then the highest bidder, because it's less of a hassle and guaranteed enough sleep before the day shift.
If you're looking for a girl like that, skip all the ones who are posting pictures from sex venues (beer bars, gogos, Soi 6), pics from exclusive parties and / or where they're really well dressed, with professional make-up, in an expensive apartment etc. That usually means that not only is it their full-time profession rather than a gig, but also they're very comfortable with it. Girls who work during the day will not want to meet at all hours, they'll answer messages with delay in the morning / afternoon, and will probably mention something about their shift during a meeting.
By the way, I have been chatted up by 2 or 3 female 7-Eleven employees, offering to "teach me some Thai" and the like. I'm pretty sure they would be open to quickly switch and teach me French, Greek and many other "languages"! But the fact is, they were all just too ugly for me. You can be on the lookout for hotter ones, but on TF you at least know they're willing and able.
With a defeatist attitude like yours we are all doomed.I am not a defeatist, I'm a realist. What do you mean doomed? The money a Thai dude pays a wg, although less than what a farang pays, hurts him much more than the greater amount the farang pays hurts the farang.
FFlintstone69
05-21-24, 19:19
I am not a defeatist, I'm a realist. What do you mean doomed? The money a Thai dude pays a wg, although less than what a farang pays, hurts him much more than the greater amount the farang pays hurts the farang.You wrote.
Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.
This implies you are ok with being charged more than others even though the man below just posted if a Thai is in a GoGo he probably has money, probably even more than you.
Being charged more than anyone else is never a good thing.
(how what a Thai pays impacts him is always irrelevant, NEWSFLASH all that matters is how what we pay impacts us).
(Go into a top tier Go Go and tell me the high end price gouging is ok because it impacts your imaginary Thai customer even more even if he's charged way less).
This is the most irrational way of looking at price discrimination I've ever seen.
Forty Drinks
05-22-24, 00:11
Chill People.
Inflation is not Coming Down.
2nd tier girls are not going for 1,000.
If their are 5 tiers. 5th tier Wins. 5th tier for 1,000 be Mr Alex Trebe k.
Forty Drinks
05-22-24, 00:39
HR manager at Goodfellas. Soi 6.
Imagine it was you. You have to tell the three 300 pound short dark skin girls your services are no longer welcomed.
I wouldn't be able to do it. What if they ask WHY. Hahaha.
Mr Enternational
05-22-24, 07:56
At the airport, went upstairs and walked outside as usual for a taxi. First dude asked where I was going and I said Pattaya. He said let's go. I said how much. He said 900. Dude next to him butted in 800. Let's go. I guess it is either a buyer's market or maybe this is a 5th tier taxi.
Explorer8939
05-22-24, 09:14
Mainstream Agogos.
Since when are Thais of any kind being allowed in. There would be Hell to pay as they really aren't cool with Foreigner s soiling their Girls.The post was pretty good until he wrote about Thai HiSos going to GoGos.
Unless they own the GoGo.
LocalExplorer
05-22-24, 17:12
Mainstream Agogos.
Since when are Thais of any kind being allowed in. There would be Hell to pay as they really aren't cool with Foreigner s soiling their Girls.I don't know how things are really supposed to be, I just report what I see and experience.
So these guys and gals seemed cool with me having my fun even more than the other mongers. Yes, it was a bit strange. I didn't check their IDs, but I did talk to them for a minute or two. One group was upstairs in Kink. If I remember correctly, they were two women, and two men (with one of the men not really talking to me, he moved away). One of the waitresses also confirmed they were Thai as we were talking and they were ordering the drinks for me, themselves and one or two girls at the same time. A day or two later I bumped into one of the women off Buakhao (I'm 90% sure), she waved to me and smiled, which creeped me out a bit. She was sitting behind the wheel of an SUV. So I don't think it's a stretch to assume she and her friends were rich by Thai standards.
The other group was in Coco a gogo off Walking Street, the club with the all-white decorations and lights. They were definitely spending on the drinks and girls, and the drink for me. I asked them about their nationality too. Then there was a third group, but I can't recall where, as I kind of got used to the idea. And I did see similar mixed-sex Asian groups a few times more from afar, though I can't be sure if they were all Thai.
Two years ago there was a 50-year old Thai man (or so he told me) upstairs in Kink, he told me he came out of curiosity, and he was encouraging me strongly to do some naughty stuff with the girls. That creeped me out too, as he spoke good English, and seemed fit in a way consistent with an army officer or policeman (he kept very straight etc.) And the club was half-empty. Call me paranoid, but I decided not to push my luck back then.
HorseTrader
05-22-24, 17:24
You wrote.
Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.
This implies you are ok with being charged more than others even though the man below just posted if a Thai is in a GoGo he probably has money, probably even more than you.
Being charged more than anyone else is never a good thing.
(how what a Thai pays impacts him is always irrelevant, NEWSFLASH all that matters is how what we pay impacts us).
(Go into a top tier Go Go and tell me the high end price gouging is ok because it impacts your imaginary Thai customer even more even if he's charged way less).
This is the most irrational way of looking at price discrimination I've ever seen.NEWSFLASH: You're not in Kansas anymore. Many of your preconceived western ideas of right and wrong, discrimination, business plans, and equal opportunity should be forgotten as soon as you enter Thailand. Different pricing for Thais and foreigner is a well accepted policy at various parks, private beaches, and businesses, why would that policy not be extended to hookers?
You wrote.
Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.
This implies you are ok with being charged more than others even though the man below just posted if a Thai is in a GoGo he probably has money, probably even more than you.
Being charged more than anyone else is never a good thing.
(how what a Thai pays impacts him is always irrelevant, NEWSFLASH all that matters is how what we pay impacts us).
(Go into a top tier Go Go and tell me the high end price gouging is ok because it impacts your imaginary Thai customer even more even if he's charged way less).
This is the most irrational way of looking at price discrimination I've ever seen.Cognition is important here. I stated "Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai. " How does one read this and conclude that the writer is ok being charged more than others. If you read someone stating: "Whether you like it or not if you go to the swamp you will be bitten by mosquitoes" are you going to conclude that the writer is ok being bitten by mosquitoes?
No one likes to pay more than another for the same thing but lets not allow anxiety about overpaying to get the better of us.
FFlintstone69
05-22-24, 18:39
NEWSFLASH: You're not in Kansas anymore. Many of your preconceived western ideas of right and wrong, discrimination, business plans, and equal opportunity should be forgotten as soon as you enter Thailand. Different pricing for Thais and foreigner is a well accepted policy at various parks, private beaches, and businesses, why would that policy not be extended to hookers?https://12go.asia/en/post/1336/thai-man-cries-foul-over-national-park-entry-fee-for-foreigners
https://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/722652/two-tiered-pricing-turns-tourists-off
https://www.tripadvisor.ca/ShowTopic-g293917-i9325-k14196579-o20-National_Parks_foreigner_pricing_racist-Chiang_Mai.html
FFlintstone69
05-22-24, 18:50
Cognition is important here. I stated "Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai. " How does one read this and conclude that the writer is OK being charged more than others. If you read someone stating: "Whether you like it or not if you go to the swamp you will be bitten by mosquitoes" are you going to conclude that the writer is ok being bitten by mosquitoes?
No one likes to pay more than another for the same thing but lets not allow anxiety about overpaying to get the better of us.Well firstly you are clearly suggesting we just accept defeat.
As opposed to suggesting one complain about it and does something about it.
In response I will always low ball the shit out of them and find other ways to undercut their cheating ie.
Buy way less drinks or zero, whenever possible cut the bar out of the equation, and never ever tip the hookers.
Constantly look for ways to offset the fuckery of their cheating and scamming, that's what I do ie.
They cheat me out of 1000 thb, OK that's cool I'm going to look for ways to.
Offset that and come out even further ahead LMAO.
Pay backs are a MOFO.
Mainstream Agogos.
Since when are Thais of any kind being allowed in. There would be Hell to pay as they really aren't cool with Foreigner s soiling their Girls.My answer is "as long as I can remember" (and that is as long ago as 30 years and as recently as 6 years).
This is based on first-hand experience; that is, knowing the Thais who have visited Cowboy with me. Also, some upper middle / lower "high class" Khmer dudes. One held a Secretary position in the Thaksin Adminstration. (And, I don't mean a "clerk-typist. LOL) Another was a Thai whose father was the Thai Ambassador to a European country.) Another, an assistant professor at a well-known Thai uni. The Khmer were very successful entrepeneurs and government officials in Cambodia.
Generalizations aside, can be very difficult to really know whether a person is Thai, Khmer, or even Filipino. Even among those groups, they can have difficulty in identifying nationality just by appearance.
Now, in only one case did any of them barfine a "dancer". They were just curious about the scene and all thoroughly enjoyed the evenings. In the one case when one of the Thais did barfine, the mamasan explained that the girl could not be seen leaving with him. He was told that the girl could have a boyfriend in the area and it could make for a problem. She did not want to set a precedent. (Maybe the boyfriend would think she was going to get a lower payment. Ha ha ha) I should note that he did choose a "stunner"; what you might call "the pick of the litter". LOL.
In the handful of occasions of which I speak, not once were my Thai or Khmer friends refused entry or service or ignored by the girls at the biggest and "best" bars on Cowboy.
Sam.
Chill People.
Inflation is not Coming Down.
2nd tier girls are not going for 1,000.
If their are 5 tiers. 5th tier Wins. 5th tier for 1,000 be Mr Alex Trebe k.Certainly second tier ladies don't go with you for 1,000 THB. But they do with me. Every man's experience as a monger is different from the next. Kind of like life.
I guess not many repeat ladies want to go to the Red Planet for ST LOL.
At the airport, went upstairs and walked outside as usual for a taxi. First dude asked where I was going and I said Pattaya. He said let's go. I said how much. He said 900. Dude next to him butted in 800. Let's go. I guess it is either a buyer's market or maybe this is a 5th tier taxi.Indeed. Always bargain, it's expected.
Explorer8939
05-22-24, 21:22
Concerning "civvies" and 7/11 girls in Pattaya, many are former bar girls. You may not find that out immediately.
LoveItHere
05-23-24, 09:22
You wrote.
Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.
This is the most irrational way of looking at price discrimination I've ever seen.Reality must be a real Btch for you. Please go to your nearest tourist site and try paying the Thai price versus the foreigner price (which is clearly posted). Explain to them how it is unfair and downright evil thing to treat you that way. Please report back.
Reality must be a real Btch for you. Please go to your nearest tourist site and try paying the Thai price versus the foreigner price (which is clearly posted). Explain to them how it is unfair and downright evil thing to treat you that way. Please report back.It happens in many countries and is even official. I went to the main museum in Kolkata, India and I was behind a line of Indians who entered free of charge and I was asked to pay. Same happened at the Victoria memorial in that city and there are probably many other tourist sites with similar payment rules, I suppose you can either pay up or make an about turn.
Forty Drinks
05-23-24, 15:47
The world is topsy turvy when Desire Downstairs non girl streamer is Hot.
Too bad she doesn't Barfine. Light or dark skin she was Hot. She was Dark.
In ho hum news. An ugly Middle East Man to a liken to an Ugly Thai girl. Not sure but she turned down what looks like 5,000. He even showed the Cash. They must be really bad customer s. Hahaha.
No Rich Asian would go near this girl.
It happens in many countries and is even official. I went to the main museum in Kolkata, India and I was behind a line of Indians who entered free of charge and I was asked to pay. Same happened at the Victoria memorial in that city and there are probably many other tourist sites with similar payment rules, I suppose you can either pay up or make an about turn.The ferry river-boat that goes from the Colombia / Perú border to Iquitos, Peru down the Amazon River was charging 80 soles for Peruanos but 300 soles for foreigners.
KrumeLurer
05-23-24, 17:10
Reality must be a real Btch for you. Please go to your nearest tourist site and try paying the Thai price versus the foreigner price (which is clearly posted). Explain to them how it is unfair and downright evil thing to treat you that way. Please report back.
Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.Its not long ago it used to be lower and then prices started moving upward in a way that has nothing to do with the thai economy but instead has to do with some tourists paying far more than the locals. Thaimen are not paying 2000 baht for an average girl on soi 6. It would be something like around 700. Check my picture in this post. This was taken from thai speaking groups that I have seen. And the girls there are cute. At the moment there is little customers and will proberbly stay that way until December. Prices can be negotiated and you can have it for 1000 baht considering most girls are looking for customers.
Chill People.
Inflation is not Coming Down.
2nd tier girls are not going for 1,000.
If their are 5 tiers. 5th tier Wins. 5th tier for 1,000 be Mr Alex Trebe k.There has not been 100 or 50 % inflation in Thailand? I am amazed that you even think that.
LocalExplorer
05-23-24, 18:05
My answer is "as long as I can remember" (and that is as long ago as 30 years and as recently as 6 years).
This is based on first-hand experience; that is, knowing the Thais who have visited Cowboy with me. Also, some upper middle / lower "high class" Khmer dudes. One held a Secretary position in the Thaksin Adminstration. (And, I don't mean a "clerk-typist. LOL) Another was a Thai whose father was the Thai Ambassador to a European country.) Another, an assistant professor at a well-known Thai uni. The Khmer were very successful entrepeneurs and government officials in Cambodia.
Generalizations aside, can be very difficult to really know whether a person is Thai, Khmer, or even Filipino. Even among those groups, they can have difficulty in identifying nationality just by appearance.
Now, in only one case did any of them barfine a "dancer". They were just curious about the scene and all thoroughly enjoyed the evenings. In the one case when one of the Thais did barfine, the mamasan explained that the girl could not be seen leaving with him. He was told that the girl could have a boyfriend in the area and it could make for a problem. She did not want to set a precedent. (Maybe the boyfriend would think she was going to get a lower payment. Ha ha ha) I should note that he did choose a "stunner"; what you might call "the pick of the litter". LOL.
In the handful of occasions of which I speak, not once were my Thai or Khmer friends refused entry or service or ignored by the girls at the biggest and "best" bars on Cowboy.
Sam.Thanks, yeah, I base my assumptions on what these groups told me. Social norms and customs are not gravity, there are always exceptions, and the customs can change over the years. Based on my recent experience, Thais are becoming more and more common in the gogos, and they don't bother me in the slightest bit (and vice versa, apparently).
I got 1 k regularly on Soi 6 just 8 months ago and the ladies I took were attractive. Certainly not tier 1 ladies, but I would say tier 2 ladies and attractive with nice bodies.
I can't imagine things have changed too much in 8 or so months. It was also the deepest portion of low season (Aug, Sept, Oct) so that must help with getting cheaper rates.The price you're talking about might even have been a price from the past when you were still there in October.
Beginning of October, I could get a few girls at that price, by the end of October I didn't find any under 1500 bahts. Of course I didn't ask all the girls, just a few ones that I wanted to bang. That's why I mostly repeated the one that I liked the most from Utopia for 1500 plus many drinks (drinks were paid because I wanted to spend time with her, she never made it a requirement).
For the moment, I think prices are more tending toward 2000 than going back to 1000, but you'll tell us in August.
Banana Boi
05-23-24, 19:55
Not that I pay attention to how many Thai guys go to gogo bars other than it's very few in general. One night really stood out for me though cause it was weird. MP and I went to Termatik (not the name) gogo on Walking Street. I only went in cause a gogo dancer from Glass House pulled me in. There were about 10 girls and the only 2 guys sitting in the bar were Thai guys. They were there the entire time milking their one beer, not saying a word even to one another, expressionless, no eye contact from any girls, only half paying attention to the stage. I do recall guys mentioning that during COVID gogo bars starting letting in Thai men. I also recall on occasion Thai men come in with Farang, likely clients.
I guess not many repeat ladies want to go to the Red Planet for ST LOL.Red Planet would be pretty cozy for 2 people.
Concerning "civvies" and 7/11 girls in Pattaya, many are former bar girls. .This is actually quite true. I know 2 bar girls and 1 gogo girl now working at a 7-11.
Please go to your nearest tourist site and try paying the Thai price versus the foreigner price (which is clearly posted). Explain to them how it is unfair and downright evil thing to treat you that way. Big thing in the news now in Japan is that Japan has started implementing a 2 tier cost structure for tourists and locals. With the Japanese economy slowing collapsing before our eyes the local Japanese can not afford to pay what bargain hunter tourists can easily afford in Japan. I'm all for it cause the other alternative is the locals shunning tourists like what is starting to happen in Kyoto.
LocalExplorer
05-23-24, 20:22
My last gogo review was so long, I started dreading writing the addendum. But here it is.
I visited a few more gogos, including Coco and Sharks off Walking Street, Baccara and Atlantis and one more on WS (only popped in for a minute or two), as well as Catch Me and Top Gun on LK Metro. Plus, I revisited Stunners, but this time it was a disappointment.
So first of all, the gogos directly on WS are absolutely packed, even off season and on weekdays. And by "packed" I mean no seating left whatsoever (perhaps you can squeeze in one thin person). There were even groups of men standing around with drinks in their hands. I moved on to the gogos in the side Sois. Both Sharks and Coco were pretty similar to the average LK Metro gogo. Coco was interesting in that the stage (or stages) where the girls were dancing were in bright white light, and all the girls wore red bikinis / underwear, it gave the place a different feel.
Catch Me and Top Gun on LK Metro had this amateurish feel. Both had some naughty action going on (let's say closer to the Lips Lounge Soi Honey type), not in plain view, but I could easily deduce exactly what was going on. A word of warning though, I could not get the girls to even talk about that type of fun, they pretended to completely not understand what I was talking about even as the action was going on pretty close to us. I was so curious, I bought one of the girls in Catch Me 2 or 3 drinks to break the ice, but to no avail. I conclude you have to be a returning customer first, be well-liked, and then they do it when they feel like it. It's not a standard service, even though it happens a lot. Apart from that, both places are run-of-the-mill gogos, the Top Gun girls were more giggly (which I like).
Stunners was a disappointment this time, the girls recognized me, so I bought LDs for 2 ladies that I remembered from last time. This time the mamasan from the get-go very insistently demanded a drink from me, although I didn't even talk to her. She quickly started raising her voice when I politely declined ("maybe later" With the back and forth, the raised voice and it becoming clear I won't be buying the drink, at some point there was an apparent loss of face of the mamasan. The girls moved away a bit, the atmosphere turned less-than-friendly and I had to feign a smile while drinking the rest of my beer. Payed up and left. Why did that happen? After the first visit I was probably classified as a "dumb farang", who throws around money for no good reason, and can be easily pressured. I had spent a "whopping" 1300 THB for 1. 5-2 hours of great fun with 2 ladies, which absolutely shocked them when it was time to pay. They kept on nervously looking at the bill at me, asking me if it's OK, as if expecting me to go ballistic. For the fun I was having it was a very reasonable price, honestly. But ah well, I guess that's one of the risks of going into an establishment frequented mainly by local farangs on a very tight budget.
I also revisited Windmill, the one on the right, ground floor. What can I say, 3rd time was still not the charm. I sat next to the shower, so a there was something to look at, although for 30-45 minutes I only got attention from the very least attractive ladies. The girls seemed to be interested mainly in the older farangs (60+, mostly first-timers in Pattaya) and some, but not all, of the Asian customers. Finally, I was approached by a better-looking girl. It started well, but literally a minute or two later she said she has to go outside for a moment, then she started doing the shower show, completely forgetting about me. And when her memory came back, she grabbed her LD and started drinking so as to finish it well before the show was over. I didn't appreciate the attitude and I just moved over to one of the "naked ladies table", where she actually came to request another drink from me and declined to take the cue of me "just wanting to watch the show now".
My conclusion is that Windmill is OK for watching the shows if you're in the area. Just make sure you know exactly which one you're going to and which floor. You're much better off skipping the LDs entirely, unless you're a 60+ farang who gets glassy eyes and is unable to fully shut his mouth when a naked 25-year old sits on your lap.
Gee, why are my reviews so long? Anyway, that's it for my gogo reviews, but perhaps I'll post one more, about Kink. And I'll probably post part 2 of the "types of customers" - The Dumb Farang, The Old Farang, the Thai Escort, the Farang with a Thai wife (in a gogo), and the Young Farang Couple in a gogo (very rare, but happens).
FFlintstone69
05-23-24, 21:42
Reality must be a real Btch for you. I believe I smoked out a stalker amongst us. Be advised.
For the moment, I think prices are more tending toward 2000 than going back to 1000, but you'll tell us in August.Of course. But at Easter I could still get a few girls for 1200 although fewer than before. They are also more likely to ask for 2000 so get an offer in before they do.
ThatGuy101
05-24-24, 08:24
When watching YouTube videos they always say the Hamadan most likely will ask for a drink and never decline it otherwise it can come off rude and most of the girls are scared of her (as she's the boss) and you not giving her a drink will make them want to stay clear from you not to piss her off and by giving the drink she'll take care of you every time you come in and help guide you towards a girl that fits your wants but damn good on you you spent a lot of money just on lady drinks etc last time and for them to treat you like this that's a shame. I've been to DR lots and eve try one always wants a hand out and sometimes you have to say no you're not a walking ATM machine that can just give shit away for free all the time it's good you saw the true colours and nice report!
Mr Enternational
05-24-24, 09:02
A word of warning though, I could not get the girls to even talk about that type of fun, they pretended to completely not understand what I was talking about even as the action was going on pretty close to us. I was so curious, I bought one of the girls in Catch Me 2 or 3 drinks to break the ice, but to no avail. I conclude you have to be a returning customer first, be well-liked, and then they do it when they feel like it.Hell, that makes 2 of us because I have no idea what you are talking about either. Why not make it plain instead of trying to be secret squirrel. You bought 2 or 3 drinks hoping it will get her to understand your secret talk instead of saying I want to put my finger in your ass or grab my dick or whatever the type of fun is supposed to be.
KrumeLurer
05-24-24, 10:25
For the moment, I think prices are more tending toward 2000 than going back to 1000, but you'll tell us in August.Thats BS. Prices are not trending towards 2000. There is a shortage of customers and it is proberbly going to continue. You can get lower if you want. You should see what thaimen get when they pay 2000 baht.
Its not an average girl on soi 6. Just ridicoulous! The reason you are saying that is that you want to go in and excuse yourself to pay big money.
We need the US dollar to start to fall to its historical levels. Thats one of the resons behind this jacking up of prices.
The price you're talking about might even have been a price from the past when you were still there in October.
Beginning of October, I could get a few girls at that price, by the end of October I didn't find any under 1500 bahts. Of course I didn't ask all the girls, just a few ones that I wanted to bang. That's why I mostly repeated the one that I liked the most from Utopia for 1500 plus many drinks (drinks were paid because I wanted to spend time with her, she never made it a requirement).
For the moment, I think prices are more tending toward 2000 than going back to 1000, but you'll tell us in August.Hadn't been at Soi 6 for weeks. Went yesterday and sessioned 3 girls. Two of them wanted 1500, one wanted 2000. The girls stated their price beforehand, also a feature of the "new" Soi 6. When 1000 was standard, girls didn't say anything beforehand. They took the 1000 plus tips or no tips at the end of the session and that was that.
Yesterday I had two girls rejecting me by saying the bar had no rooms. In one of the bar the girl said "no room because police", whatever that meant. Might have been just a novel excuse for rejection, albeit a strange one.
As usual I spotted a handful of top girls (tallish, waist-to-hip ratio below 0.80, thin bones, neotenous facial features, narrow shoulder girth). They all made it clear to me, from a distance and from nearby, in half rude half polite fashion, that I was not wanted.
Hadn't been at Soi 6 for weeks. Went yesterday and sessioned 3 girls. Two of them wanted 1500, one wanted 2000. The girls stated their price beforehand, also a feature of the "new" Soi 6. When 1000 was standard, girls didn't say anything beforehand. They took the 1000 plus tips or no tips at the end of the session and that was that.
Yesterday I had two girls rejecting me by saying the bar had no rooms. In one of the bar the girl said "no room because police", whatever that meant. Might have been just a novel excuse for rejection, albeit a strange one.
As usual I spotted a handful of top girls (tallish, waist-to-hip ratio below 0.80, thin bones, neotenous facial features, narrow shoulder girth). They all made it clear to me, from a distance and from nearby, in half rude half polite fashion, that I was not wanted.Hearing these reports of increased prices on the 6 makes me all the more curious to see how it is upon my return. Again, this will Benin August, low season. I still have a few Soi 6 ladies I keep up with on Line and they say it's slow. They also say they'll come to my loom as they did last time for ST 1,000.
I also have a few civvies lined up that will be good for the site seeing aspect of Pattaya, namely Koh Larn.
SouthEaster
05-25-24, 00:25
To XXL: you state that they made it clear that you were not wanted. I assume you mean did not want to screw you. If that is the case, what / who do they want? I haven't been for ages but it does not sound like soi six is full of drinks only girls, so what the hell are they doing there?
FFlintstone69
05-25-24, 01:58
It happens in many countries and is even official. I went to the main museum in Kolkata, India and I was behind a line of Indians who entered free of charge and I was asked to pay. Same happened at the Victoria memorial in that city and there are probably many other tourist sites with similar payment rules, I suppose you can either pay up or make an about turn.But I believe much of the discrimination in Thailand is based on race, if you go to many museums and show a local ID in Europe or United States you get a lower admission fee, that is based on the rationale that you pay taxes to build and maintain museums, tourists (not so much).
I've been told Thais don't allow that work around, you could be a white guy that lives in Thailand for 50 yrs they are still going to ass fuck you whenever they can.
And I'm still not sure how museums overcharging tourists, justifies hookers doing the same.
Even though its still racist, I think being overcharged by a museum is no where as bad as being overcharged by a hooker based on race.
If a museum posts the rates on a sign, then everyone is getting screwed equally.
Bars and hookers, racistly scamming mongers willy nilly and capriciously is much more nefarious.
Thats why I say "What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander".
Low ball the shit out of them 100% of the time.
Avoid buying drinks.
Cut the bar out of the equation whenever possible.
Why, because pay backs are a MOFO.
But I believe much of the discrimination in Thailand is based on race, if you go to many museums and show a local ID in Europe or United States you get a lower admission fee, that is based on the rationale that you pay taxes to build and maintain museums, tourists (not so much).
I've been told Thais don't allow that work around, you could be a white guy that lives in Thailand for 50 yrs they are still going to ass fuck you whenever they can.
Cut the bar out of the equation whenever possible.
Why, because pay backs are a MOFO.
Race? Maybe you are confusing with nationalities. Never heard of a Thai or European race. Aren't you a racist by any means to hate racists?
Foreigners or non residents are not overcharged, it's local nationalities or residents who are getting a discount on the official entry ticket. Just as senior citizen's, kids, students, maybe army or veterans too (depends on venue, country). Some venues might grant discounts to some specific job categories (journalists is an example in some countries).
I was once granted, to my surprise, a 10% discount at a popular fast food brand for being over 60: I don't think the rest of the customers were overcharged.
Mr Enternational
05-25-24, 02:42
Race? Maybe you are confusing with nationalities. Never heard of a Thai or European race. Aren't you a racist by any means to hate racists?
Foreigners or non residents are not overcharged, it's local nationalities or residents who are getting a discount on the official entry ticket.Definitely confusing race with nationality. I was in Kenya a couple of months ago and there is also a price for Kenyans and a higher price for non-Kenyans at the museums and such. In Peru, if you buy a plane ticket there is a price for Peruvians and a price for foreigners. If you show up to the airport without a Peruvian ID after having bought the Peruvian priced ticket then you have to pay the difference plus a fine. It explicitly states that on the website.
Hadn't been at Soi 6 for weeks. Went yesterday and sessioned 3 girls. Two of them wanted 1500, one wanted 2000. The girls stated their price beforehand, also a feature of the "new" Soi 6. When 1000 was standard, girls didn't say anything beforehand. They took the 1000 plus tips or no tips at the end of the session and that was that.
Yesterday I had two girls rejecting me by saying the bar had no rooms. In one of the bar the girl said "no room because police", whatever that meant. Might have been just a novel excuse for rejection, albeit a strange one.
As usual I spotted a handful of top girls (tallish, waist-to-hip ratio below 0.80, thin bones, neotenous facial features, narrow shoulder girth). They all made it clear to me, from a distance and from nearby, in half rude half polite fashion, that I was not wanted.I think it is all part of the Night Wish Group business strategy, they own a big chunk of the soi 6 bars. They focus on "drinks only" venues and their girls are instructed so.
Was the same when they ran 2-3 bars in pothole (blue, orange or whatever, maybe they still own them): drinks only, girls trained to lightly tease but not hands on by all means. Just a continuous flow of drinks, diluted for the girls. Good for the girls not willing to spread legs every second hour. Inspired by Japanese and Korean whisky lounges. Where customers spend endless hours with a bottle of whisky and the girls pouring in the glasses. No sex, just getting devastated and drunk patrons then in the streets.
Each one his own.
But I believe much of the discrimination in Thailand is based on race, if you go to many museums and show a local ID in Europe or United States you get a lower admission fee, that is based on the rationale that you pay taxes to build and maintain museums, tourists (not so much).
I've been told Thais don't allow that work around, you could be a white guy that lives in Thailand for 50 yrs they are still going to ass fuck you whenever they can.
And I'm still not sure how museums overcharging tourists, justifies hookers doing the same.
Even though its still racist, I think being overcharged by a museum is no where as bad as being overcharged by a hooker based on race.
If a museum posts the rates on a sign, then everyone is getting screwed equally.
Bars and hookers, racistly scamming mongers willy nilly and capriciously is much more nefarious.
Thats why I say "What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander".
Low ball the shit out of them 100% of the time.
Avoid buying drinks.
Cut the bar out of the equation whenever possible.
Why, because pay backs are a MOFO.Its impossible to be Jai Dee if you are consumed with "pay back" for a real or imagined slight. Could reflect on the prices you are quoted or the treatment you recieve.
LittleBigMan
05-25-24, 04:11
I've written this opinion before about race. I'm Chinese American born and raised in the West. I've been throughout the USA In the South, Carolinas, and MidWest, in the City in my youth I wasn't allowed to cross a particular street to go to school which was direct Even in the late 80's Carolinas I was told I couldn't buy beer because of my color.
Nearly 20 years in Thailand, maybe not to Thai standards because Thais in general especially the poor which are the majority don't see it as racism cause they aren't taught generally the real meaning of it. It is like part of their culture to think this way when it is done if you try to explain you see a blank stare on their face. In my life here living with Thais 99.9 daily interacting in the beginning never felt more racist in my whole life back home not so much today only because I've adjusted to letting most of it go but there were times even though Thais were friendly and polite they resent us deeply here one wrong move verbally or physically expect a blowup and snap reaction.
What many here run into is the duel pricing right or wrong it presents. Many years ago, the late K--g noted in one of his Birthday speeches this was wrong, the former PM, once said the same when he was in charge did that change? NO! Their Supreme Court two years ago ruled against a Norwegian case against the Thai government regarding Duel Pricing, the ruling went against their laws the explanation from the court was "Foreigners are generally better off and therefore should pay more " This is the ruling as to why Government hospital can charge you more.
Do I have an advantage at times I do and don't, I've been to many amusement parks in the last few years due to the birth of my granddaughter I do the majority of the driving at the entrance my son does all the buying so I generally pay the Thai price which is general far lower. Most visitors don't see it since they are part of the 2-week millionaire theory just go with the flow. Living here it gets tiring at times what bothers me is going to get medical treatment, especially at the International private ones. Before my granddaughter was born I went to every hospital in the area to find out what a see-section would cost, private wanted 75-100,000 baht and even a public I was quoted 50,000, one receptionist honestly told me if the see-section was ordered by the doctor then it is covered by the national health plan. When everything was narrowed down to the hospital I did the driving and had my son, daughter-in-law, and both mothers go in without and get a price. 53,000 Baht for a see-section 3-night stay. For me the worst thing a person wants when they are sick and hurting be given the " head toe ". Years ago my wife was on her death bed I took her to the Emergency Private Hospital insurance wouldn't cover her because they claimed the condition was inherited by her family while she lay in the bed waiting to be admitted the patient next to her foreigner was pain crying out they knew exactly what he needed but the hospital rep was trying to get a deposit before treatment. Today his cry still rings in my wife's and mine heads " Help Me ".
During Covid, those who were here they couldn't give a shit about us. They made it very clear they weren't going to give any vaccine to us it wasn't until Senator Tammy Duckworth who is part Thai stepped up and forced their hands that 2 million doses would be given but 250-500,000 doses of Pfizer had to be reserved for foreigners not just Americans. Vaccines before Sino-Vac sold by the Chinese were reserved for Thais, and 100,000 doses given by the Italians were reserved for Italians Johnson and Johnson W. Whether it worked or not another discussion Thais front line were given Sino-Vac that wore off or didn't work there was an outbreak within the front line workers death rate was like 25,000 a day? It wasn't until the donation of Pfizer that the pandemic was controlled when I got mine in Bangkok majority of foreigners even Chinese seemed to hate the USA So much were grateful. I felt like waving the US flag and singing the national Anthem LOL.
Racism is front and center in their policies their daily announcements are laced with old-school thinking. I've tested my theory by watching police stations, immigration, and government officials at a few meetings reminds me of when I was young playing at the Chinese so-called Association where my dad was an official when gangs were out of control City leaders and top police representatives would come and address the association leaders telling them to control your boys. Very few words were exchanged my dad and association leaders would just nod in agreement and play along as soon as they left backs turned started laughing.
I have seen these actions growing up visiting Hong Kong, Korea, and Japan with my Dad, Uncles, and older brothers it is all present here in Thailand with their leaders and their policies toward foreigners. It is so embedded into their culture they don't even know what the word means that so many practice it in their daily lives even to their people. Be glad it is just due pricing as long as the exchange rate is 35-1 many don't see it and will continue to come. Enjoy!
HR manager at Goodfellas. Soi 6.
Imagine it was you. You have to tell the three 300 pound short dark skin girls your services are no longer welcomed.
I wouldn't be able to do it. What if they ask WHY. Hahaha.LOL.
That's what the Thai mamasan is here for. She doesn't need to talk, just points to her stick and every girls obey.
Has that bar been taken over by nightwish?
I see some of their managers promoting it and many girls in their line up used to work in the bars near Beach road these last months.
KrumeLurer
05-25-24, 08:35
This pictures show what thais are paying for an hour with a young beautiful girl. The price includes the room and condom. In the ads it clearly says that the women does not have any stretch marks and never had a baby. So if thais in Bangkok are paying this prices for girls like this, what are they paying for an average looking girl that is older? 2000 on soi 6? I don't think so.
NRandom940
05-25-24, 08:37
This pictures show what thais are paying for an hour with a young beautiful girl. The price includes the room and condom. In the ads it clearly says that the women does not have any stretch marks and never had a baby. So if thais in Bangkok are paying this prices for girls like this, what are they paying for an average looking girl that is older? 2000 on soi 6? I don't think so.What site is that?
This pictures show what thais are paying for an hour with a young beautiful girl. The price includes the room and condom. In the ads it clearly says that the women does not have any stretch marks and never had a baby. So if thais in Bangkok are paying this prices for girls like this, what are they paying for an average looking girl that is older? 2000 on soi 6? I don't think so.Except these pictures do not show anything. On the pics the girls look youngish and probably are, that's all you can say about them. No way you can even begin to guess if these girls are hot (ie have a hot body).
My point is illustrated by a girl's pics below. That's what I mean by "hot body" and "good-looking girl".
Explorer8939
05-25-24, 11:01
This pictures show what thais are paying for an hour with a young beautiful girl. The price includes the room and condom. In the ads it clearly says that the women does not have any stretch marks and never had a baby. So if thais in Bangkok are paying this prices for girls like this, what are they paying for an average looking girl that is older? 2000 on soi 6? I don't think so.1300 baht for 40 minutes, more time and the price gets higher.
Sounds like Soi 6 pricing, maybe a bit higher.
So if thais in Bangkok are paying this prices for girls like this, what are they paying for an average looking girl that is older? 2000 on soi 6? I don't think so.Thai men are not welcomed in soi 6 bars. You could have known if you ever went there personnaly, and there are also girls there, they are not all old.
What strikes me is that the last few posts have been more and more about how expensive Soi 6 has become. You used to pay 1 K for a beauty, today you pay 2 K for a grandma. Yes, that's right but that's the way things go. I can't change that either. Anyone who continues to go to Soi 6 shouldn't complain afterwards. Everything changes.
Come to Germany. An ST costs a lot less there. And the service is better. LOL.
What strikes me is that the last few posts have been more and more about how expensive Soi 6 has become. You used to pay 1 K for a beauty, today you pay 2 K for a grandma. Yes, that's right but that's the way things go. I can't change that either. Anyone who continues to go to Soi 6 shouldn't complain afterwards. Everything changes.
Come to Germany. An ST costs a lot less there. And the service is better. LOL.What are you paying and where? I just left Arabella, €10 entry and €40 for the girl, that's about 2000 THB, I am off to an FKK tonight where the entry will probably be €50 and the same for each girl. I find most girls in Germany are cold and mechanical as €50 does not go as far as 2000 THB so they don't feel like working for it.
Explorer8939
05-25-24, 16:31
What strikes me is that the last few posts have been more and more about how expensive Soi 6 has become. You used to pay 1 K for a beauty, today you pay 2 K for a grandma. Yes, that's right but that's the way things go. I can't change that either. Anyone who continues to go to Soi 6 shouldn't complain afterwards. Everything changes.
Come to Germany. An ST costs a lot less there. And the service is better. LOL.With the new emphasis on drinking, and less on sex, I am seeing older ladies migrating to Soi 6. It used to be difficult for older ladies to survive on Soi 6 because of all the sessions in the room, but now they get customers who just want to buy them watered down drinks.
4. I like slutty women. Yes from time to time I want to do the young, sweet and shy girl but honestly as an older man who's lived a lot of life and had a lot of experiences. I like a good old-fashioned slutty woman. LOL I like a woman who likes to fuck. I like a woman who likes to suck dick and gets OFF on it. And occasionally I like a threesome. What are the odds of finding some real sluts in Pattaya? I can't stand the whole mechanical transaction like Tijuana. Been there done that. I will go out of my way to find the women who the money is secondary to. Where if any, is the best place to find these type of women?
5. I have been communicating via fetlife with the owners a (husband and wife, a Thai wife) of the gentleman's club called "whisper lounge" in Pattaya. They have assured me that most anything on my fantasy list can be found there. I looked at their website and they have photos of several of their women and they look OK. They are not stunners, but they are definitely fuckable by my standards. Has anyone been to this club and what would be your review of it?
6. I reading the gentlemen's clubs are cheaper. What are the best gentlemen clubs in your opinion and what are the price ranges to be found?
7. Read the first 120 pages of this Pattaya thread, I feel like Soi 6 is going to be my go to spot for the evening to find my last woman of the night. I'm not really going to be into going upstairs. I want to take back to my room where I can operate more freely and try and avoid the wham Bam type scenario that I mentioned above. How much is this going to set me back? Or is it really just better to take them upstairs and do the deed and leave? This leads to my next question of where and how is the best place to get a girl if you want her to stay for a few hours or long-term. Maybe even till morning?
8. to find the girls that are willing to do a threesome and would actually be into the idea of it and would get into having some pussy themselves, where is the best place to find this. I'm thinking to pick up a little hottie on Beach Road and ask her if she wants to bring a friend? Or would Soi 6 possibly be better for this?
9. I like a good bareback blowjob, I like a blowjob artist, I was spoiled rotten with a sugar baby here in the states who literally could orgasm from giving head. She liked it that much and she was that good at it. Any chance of finding that level of a blow job In Pattaya? Also, at the blowjob bars, can you do freaky things where you like you and another monger sit next to each other and you each have a girl sucking you off and then they switch and stuff like that? I like a good kinky scenario from time to time. It's like watching porn only live.
10. I want to have a massage in my room during the day, want a happy ending some days and probably just a massage others days if I need to recharge. Skip the happy ending, how much can I expect to pay for both types of massage and where is the best place or resources to find a reasonably placed women to come to my room for a massage?
11. Condoms, for 28 years of mongering I've always just used my own common sense and it hasn't let me down yet. I've never picked up anything. Yes I like to go raw. Who doesn't? The actual real feeling of that pussy, skin on skin, can't be replicated wrapping plastic around your dick. LOL how do you bring up negotiating this with the girls? Now I can tell you right now because I have my own methodology for who I'll wrap up and who I won't with. Some of the girls I may negotiate to go bareback with and then I might change my mind once the panties come off. It just depends. I've been snipped, so no worries about knocking anyone up.
Any of these questions any fellow mongers can answer answer is greatly appreciated.I second this. I'm a one week millionaire. While I, like everyone else, want a DDG Hottie, I'm more looking to star in my own porn shoot. I'm looking for DT, face fuck, and upside down face fuck. Where is the best place to find this? Some have said Gentlemen's clubs. How about a soapie, or BJ bar, or a beach road worker? Thanks in advance.
What are you paying and where? I just left Arabella, 10 entry and 40 for the girl, that's about 2000 THB, I am off to an FKK tonight where the entry will probably be 50 and the same for each girl. I find most girls in Germany are cold and mechanical as 50 does not go as far as 2000 THB so they don't feel like working for it.Sharks? I'll be there next month.
Which gogo bars are full nude in WS, LK or anywhere in Pattaya or are there any? I haven't been there since before covid and it would be nice to know the names of at least a couple of them since roaming around and visiting many randomly just leads to spending too much for drinks for nothing and getting too drunk. I prefer to see the whole package beforehand. Of course sometimes it not only depends on the bar but also on the girl but generally speaking.
KrumeLurer
05-25-24, 19:59
What strikes me is that the last few posts have been more and more about how expensive Soi 6 has become. You used to pay 1 K for a beauty, today you pay 2 K for a grandma. Yes, that's right but that's the way things go. I can't change that either. Anyone who continues to go to Soi 6 shouldn't complain afterwards. Everything changes.
Come to Germany. An ST costs a lot less there. And the service is better. LOL.The way things goes? Yeah if you want to rip off tourists. And how the fuck can Germany be cheaper than an average girl on soi 6? Something must be seriously wrong here.
Thai men are not welcomed in soi 6 bars. You could have known if you ever went there personnaly, and there are also girls there, they are not all old.I know that but we are talking about prices asked from thais compared to rip off prices asked from tourists.
Except these pictures do not show anything. On the pics the girls look youngish and probably are, that's all you can say about them. No way you can even begin to guess if these girls are hot (ie have a hot body).
My point is illustrated by a girl's pics below. That's what I mean by "hot body" and "good-looking girl".Belive me, I have seen it and its good quality. Don't try to make excuses here for being overcharged.
Check the photos added here and you see what rip off joints gogo bars in Pattaya are.
NRandom940
05-26-24, 01:29
The way things goes? Yeah if you want to rip off tourists. And how the fuck can Germany be cheaper than an average girl on soi 6? Something must be seriously wrong here.
I know that but we are talking about prices asked from thais compared to rip off prices asked from tourists.
Belive me, I have seen it and its good quality. Don't try to make excuses here for being overcharged.
Check the photos added here and you see what rip off joints gogo bars in Pattaya are.I paid 1500 plus 1 drink last time I was on Soi 6. She was mid-20's and attractive. All you have to do is say no when they offer a ripoff price. You can go on TF and get girls for 1500-2000 all day long. What's the issue?
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Belive me, I have seen it and its good quality. Don't try to make excuses here for being overcharged.
Check the photos added here and you see what rip off joints gogo bars in Pattaya are.Do you mean the "photos added" are pics of hot girls? They aren't! The pics show nothing except poor lower bodies.
Explorer8939
05-26-24, 04:28
The way things goes? Yeah if you want to rip off tourists. And how the fuck can Germany be cheaper than an average girl on soi 6? Something must be seriously wrong here.Because Soi 6 is still cheaper than Germany.
1500 Thai baht = 37 Euros.
2000 Thai baht = 50 Euros.
There are no entry fees to go to Soi 6.
Concerning "civvies" and 7/11 girls in Pattaya, many are former bar girls. You may not find that out immediately.Or they used to be 'civvies' with a normal job, but are freelancers now. But they don't want to admit that, and pretend that they still have that job. Only after some time and multiple sessions, they admit that they don't have that job anymore, because they can earn much more as a freelancer.
Sharks? I'll be there next month.Sharks starts at €100 for 30 minutes and one shot, and the girls try to charge for everything like a blowjob.
LocalExplorer
05-26-24, 11:47
Which gogo bars are full nude in WS, LK or anywhere in Pattaya or are there any? I haven't been there since before covid and it would be nice to know the names of at least a couple of them since roaming around and visiting many randomly just leads to spending too much for drinks for nothing and getting too drunk. I prefer to see the whole package beforehand. Of course sometimes it not only depends on the bar but also on the girl but generally speaking.AFAIK only in Kink at LK Metro, and in Windmill on WS the girls reliably strip down to nothing. There are quite a few gogos where one girl is dancing nude and the other 5 or 10 are topless, just go around LK and pop your head into a few.
In case of Lips Lounge Soi Honey they don't strip entirely by default, but I'm sure they'll do just that if you ask them to (while buying them drinks). Seeing those girls naked would be the most tame part of the whole experience anyway.
Sharks starts at 100 for 30 minutes and one shot, and the girls try to charge for everything like a blowjob.Thats OK, after a year of Asain, time for some white.
Which gogo bars are full nude in WS, LK or anywhere in Pattaya or are there any?So far, these are the bars I found that has full nudity (as of Dec):
1 & 2) Windmill 1 and Windmill 2 in Walking Street. Raunchy stuff on first and second floor.
3) Kink in LK Metro. Raunchy stuff only on the second floor.
4) Angels in LK Metro. Raunchy stuff only on the second floor.
5) Another bar that has full nudity is Top Gun in LK Metro. There was one girl on the small stage who was nude. But none of the raunchy stuff like the other bars.
Please inform the forum if you find any other ones.
There are quite a few gogos where one girl is dancing nude and the other 5 or 10 are topless, just go around LK and pop your head into a few.Which other bars? I've probably either had a drink or peeked in every bar on LK Metro. Only those 3 listed above.
Too bad they got rid of full nudity in most bars on Walking Street. Those were my favorites. Many cute naked girls!
There's a video circulating of two Brits being beaten by the security thugs on soi 6 in front of Helicopter.
I've read comments that one of them died after receiving a head quick while on the ground.
The violence used by these fat thugs is trully disgusting.
It is said the guys punched a girl in the face and didn't pay the bill but I've not seen any evidence.
Monger safely everyone and don't ever get in trouble with these fat thugs, it's still better to be scammed than beaten to death by these fat *ssholes.
Explorer8939
05-26-24, 20:18
https://thepattayanews.com/2024/05/26/physical-altercation-between-guards-and-customers-on-soi-6-in-pattaya-goes-viral/
An altercation occurred in Pattaya City on Soi Six over the past weekend involving security personnel working for independent bars from an undisclosed entertainment venue and three foreign nationals. The incident, which took place at 5:26 pm On Friday, May 24th, 2024, was captured on video and disseminated through social media, going viral.
There's a video going around with two Brits getting a brutal beating from security at the helicopter bar.
Banana Boi
05-27-24, 00:41
Because Soi 6 is still cheaper than Germany.
1500 Thai baht = 37 Euros.
2000 Thai baht = 50 Euros.
There are no entry fees to go to Soi 6.Hopefully you're not comparing girl's looks on Soi 6 vs FKK clubs like Oase and Sharks. For me that's the most important factor. To even have a fighting chance you need to compare top FKK club girls looks to top gogo bar girls. Even then top gogo bars would lose by a landslide. So now let's compare pricing for a night out at Oase vs a night out at gogo bars. (my numbers may be well dated).
FKK Oase.
Entry 65 (300 for 5 entries).
Drinks and LD. ZERO!
Decent food for the day. ZERO!
2 girls - 200 give or take.
Hours of fun 17 (11 am til 4 am)
Total - 18,500 baht.
Gogo bar.
Entry. Zero.
Food at comparable food quality restaurants for the day 2000 baht.
Drinks - 1000 baht.
LD - 2200 baht (over 2 visits). This number can be WAY higher.
BF (2 x ST) - 3000 baht.
Girls (2 x) - 6000 baht.
Hours of fun 6 (8 pm til 2 am or so)
Total 14,200 baht.
Yes, taking 2 girls from Oase will be more expensive than 2 gogo girls but the gap is not that significant in the big picture. Now if any of your Thai girls want 40 drinks or if you drink, then Thailand prices would be higher. FKK staring at pretty topless or naked girls sunbathing beside you Priceless.
Of course looks and fever are the real questions here. How hot do you want a girl? Do you have Yellow Fever or Romanian fever?
FFlintstone69
05-27-24, 03:05
Hopefully you're not comparing girl's looks on Soi 6 vs FKK clubs like Oase and Sharks. For me that's the most important factor. To even have a fighting chance you need to compare top FKK club girls looks to top gogo bar girls. Even then top gogo bars would lose by a landslide. So now let's compare pricing for a night out at Oase vs a night out at gogo bars. (my numbers may be well dated).
FKK Oase.
Entry 65 (300 for 5 entries).
Drinks and LD. ZERO!
Decent food for the day. ZERO!
2 girls - 200 give or take.
Hours of fun 17 (11 am til 4 am)
Total - 18,500 baht.
Gogo bar.
Entry. Zero.
Food at comparable food quality restaurants for the day 2000 baht.
Drinks - 1000 baht.
LD - 2200 baht (over 2 visits). This number can be WAY higher.
BF (2 x ST) - 3000 baht.
Girls (2 x) - 6000 baht.
Hours of fun 6 (8 pm til 2 am or so)
Total 14,200 baht.
Yes, taking 2 girls from Oase will be more expensive than 2 gogo girls but the gap is not that significant in the big picture. Now if any of your Thai girls want 40 drinks or if you drink, then Thailand prices would be higher. FKK staring at pretty topless or naked girls sunbathing beside you Priceless.
Of course looks and fever are the real questions here. How hot do you want a girl? Do you have Yellow Fever or Romanian fever?OMG how much does that cost I've never been asked for that.
And so that is on top of the BF and her 3000, I think I would rather jerk off for free that night 55555.
What bars on WS allow this kind of sodomy.
Expat American
05-27-24, 07:34
https://thepattayanews.com/2024/05/26/physical-altercation-between-guards-and-customers-on-soi-6-in-pattaya-goes-viral/
An altercation occurred in Pattaya City on Soi Six over the past weekend involving security personnel working for independent bars from an undisclosed entertainment venue and three foreign nationals. The incident, which took place at 5:26 pm On Friday, May 24th, 2024, was captured on video and disseminated through social media, going viral.This video shows it all. Guys, you are a guest in their country. You don't go and point a finger in the cashiers face and pick fights with bouncers. The guy whose head got kicked in didn't have too many brain cells working in the first place and probably has permanent brain damage now. Was that worth a few hundred bhat discrepancy in a bar bill? Thai men fight in packs. Its well known you don't pick fights with them. You will always lose. I have had discrepancies in bar bills. Almost always I point it out politely with a smile to the waitress and almost always she corrects it and brings it back. Never had an issue. Drunk white tourists are the worst!
https://www.reddit.com/r/ThailandTourism/comments/1d1auy5/full_merged_video_of_the_soi_6_incident_seems/?rdt=64136
So now let's compare pricing for a night out at Oase vs a night out at gogo bars. (my numbers may be well dated).
FKK Oase.
Entry 65 (300 for 5 entries).
Drinks and LD. ZERO!
Decent food for the day. ZERO!
2 girls - 200 give or take.
Hours of fun 17 (11 am til 4 am)
Total - 18,500 baht.
Gogo bar.
Entry. Zero.
Food at comparable food quality restaurants for the day 2000 baht.
Drinks - 1000 baht.
LD - 2200 baht (over 2 visits). This number can be WAY higher.
BF (2 x ST) - 3000 baht.
Girls (2 x) - 6000 baht.
Hours of fun 6 (8 pm til 2 am or so)
Total 14,200 baht.Sorry but the figures are just miles off being correct (and in fairness, you started by saying your prices could be dated which is true). Current prices at Oase (at least based on my trip there in the last 3 days!) are 150 euros / hour minimum with the best looking girls wanting and regularly achieving 200/ hour. I assume you are comparing with top agogo girls from the pricing you provided (I was in Thailand for a month 2 weeks in Pattaya in April and 3000+3000 is for top quality girls though for balance some wanted more - I asked one of the few truly beautiful girls in Sapphire her prices and she wanted 5000 so I declined without even asking about the BF). Sad thing is, when in Thailand it is hard to make the price comparison and act accordingly. I say that because 5000 is only €126 and that is very cheap in Europe for a stunning working girl). But based on your comparison meaning for top girls, then I agree your 14,200 (about 374 euros) for the entire night inc drinks and BF - 8 pm to 2 pm.
So 6 hours.
Now compare the price in Oase. For top girls, they will want 200 each per hour. Thats 400 euros the same 6 hours = 2400 euros, plus 65 entry = 2465 euros = just short of…..wait for it……a whopping 98,000 baht. Thats for an equal amount of time (6 hours).
In your example you make the time with the agogo girls 6 hours or so but allowed 17 hours in the FKK clubs. Thats not a fair comparison. I accept that you can enter Oase at 11 am and stay until 4 pm (and BTW I love Oase in the summer months and many naked girls walking around the pool in high heels etc) but nobody goes to rooms with ladies in an FKK for 17 hours. So I based my calculations on about the same time in a room, which I think is comparing apples with apples, Pattaya is far cheaper.
There are other factors in play here: FKKs can have a LOT of extras, for BBBJ in many places after the 2017 law. Ok in a lot its gone back to normal but not in all (Artemis in Berlin is a rigid 20 extra for BBBJ), CIM - 50 extra, COF or COB often extra, BDSM 50 extra, anal 100 extra. If you are into any of these activities an FKK for 6 hours with 2 girls is quickly going to become very expensive indeed - and the 374 euros/ 14,200 baht will easily be used up in only one hour (200/e/hour x 2 girls).
So attendance at an FKK for 17 hours could work out incredibly expensive (and boring!)
I understand your approach is that a guy can have a sexy/naughty day for 17 hours if he wants and I suppose if he only sessioned for 2 hours he could do that with two beauties with no extras for 400 - not much more than for 6 hours with two agogo stunners. But if you wanted to try to match 17 hours in Pattaya for a day / evening of total naughty fun, you could add a massage or two, hands on fun in say Windmill or Kink, and you’d have a lot of fun in that 17 hours including your 6 with the two stunners from Pin Up! So far more action that you got in the FKK where you were only actually doing anything other than watching/ogling/eating/sleeping for 17 hours.
Don't get me wrong. I love both options. And if forced to choose, I would favour the FKK in summer. Just an incredible experience being surrounded by 100+ naked ladies (not that many now in Oase but there were in the golden days).
Making these types of comparisons is therefore very tough. But on current pricing models, a long day of sexy time in Pattaya remains incredibly cheaper than in FKK Clubs.
Banana Boi
05-27-24, 09:21
Thanks PFI. I haven't been to a FKK in years nor do I read the Germany FKK forum of the same person replying to himself under multiple handles. Was considering going next Spring but you have just made is abundantly clear to me that Germany is out forever. My approach in Thailand is also very different than most "tourists". I do not pay barfines or buy tons of LD's just to get a girl to go with me. On occasion I may rack up a bigger drink bill than anyone wants to admit to but none of that bill will be for a barfine or because a girl wanted 10/20/40 drinks before she would go with me.
The bottom line is neither of these 2 places should be tops in your sex destination. They are both pricing themselves out of the market for top talent. Now if you want average or below average girls then both countries still have lots of options like Soi 6, Beach Road or Soi 25 in Thailand or Totalclub Osnabruck for 35 euro for 30 minutes or the AO clubs.
So now let's compare pricing for a night out at Oase vs a night out at gogo bars. (my numbers may be well dated).
FKK Oase.
Entry 65 (300 for 5 entries).
Drinks and LD. ZERO!
Decent food for the day. ZERO!
2 girls - 200 give or take.
Hours of fun 17 (11 am til 4 am)
Total - 18,500 baht.
Gogo bar.
Entry. Zero.
Food at comparable food quality restaurants for the day 2000 baht.
Drinks - 1000 baht.
LD - 2200 baht (over 2 visits). This number can be WAY higher.
BF (2 x ST) - 3000 baht.
Girls (2 x) - 6000 baht.
Hours of fun 6 (8 pm til 2 am or so)
Total 14,200 baht.
Sorry, but comparing the prices in Germany with the prices in Thailand is nonsense.
A normal worker in Germany earns 100 EUR per day, a Thai worker 10 EUR. A kilo of boneless chicken costs 10 EUR in Germany and 2 EUR in Thailand, etc.
It would be fair if an ST anywhere in the world cost as much as a worker earns in a day.
In Germany an ST would then cost 100 EUR and in Thailand 400 Baht. This would be fair.
The prices that are now being quoted in Pattaya are purely a rip-off of tourists. And as long as there are idiots who pay, it will continue like this.
There's a video circulating of two Brits being beaten by the security thugs on soi 6 in front of Helicopter.
I've read comments that one of them died after receiving a head quick while on the ground.
The violence used by these fat thugs is trully disgusting.
It is said the guys punched a girl in the face and didn't pay the bill but I've not seen any evidence.
Monger safely everyone and don't ever get in trouble with these fat thugs, it's still better to be scammed than beaten to death by these fat *ssholes.It was also reported that the security goons were paid by the Night Wish Group. Another reason not to go to a Night Wish bar anymore.
The video shows a farang lying on the ground and no longer moving. A Night Wish security idiot runs up to him and kicks him in the head. I hope he didn't die.
It was also reported that the security goons were paid by the Night Wish Group. Another reason not to go to a Night Wish bar anymore.
The video shows a farang lying on the ground and no longer moving. A Night Wish security idiot runs up to him and kicks him in the head. I hope he didn't die.Nigh Wish replied to this (in the comment section) on Youtube, emphasizing the club (I think Helicopter club) was NOT a Night Wish group.
LittleBigMan
05-27-24, 14:30
Nigh Wish replied to this (in the comment section) on Youtube, emphasizing the club (I think Helicopter club) was NOT a Night Wish group.There was another report but the three did not name the clubs or clubs they work for that the three or group are Freelancer thst provide security for a number of clubs on 6.
There was another report but the three did not name the clubs or clubs they work for that the three or group are Freelancer thst provide security for a number of clubs on 6.Indeed on the vid it looked like they were coming from outside didn't it?
It's making the international headlines right now. I hope it doesn't lead to some suppression of Soi 6 as a whole.
Banana Boi
05-27-24, 14:53
It's making the international headlines right now. I hope it doesn't lead to some suppression of Soi 6 as a whole.We know what happened the last time something on Soi 6 made international headlines. That guy banging a girl on the counter right along Soi 6 destroyed Soi 6 as we know it. Before that HJ and BJ was a real thing on Soi 6 for girls you buy a drink for.
Mr Enternational
05-27-24, 15:23
There was another report but the three did not name the clubs or clubs they work for that the three or group are Freelancer thst provide security for a number of clubs on 6.Some article mentioned them as freelancers. In the video that starts inside, it seems she (mamasan) is contacting someone by phone. This is the point when the customer is irate in front of her. Soon after the guards came running in from another place.
Indeed on the vid it looked like they were coming from outside didn't it? No the whole altercation started in the bar, 3 on 2, but the fat friend of the guy in white shirt was useless. He was too slow and let his friend being cornered by the 3 pigs and they both got KO'd 3 on 1 and 3 on 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1ClOSlyhEY
The rumors of a girl being punched was probably bullshit, they would have been jumped directly in the bar if it was true.
I've seen the video of the mamasan explaining what happened (in Thai), and it all started because of the bill.
They were 2 customers at first and paid their bill regularly but it seems another guy joined them (a fat guy, not clear if it's the same on the video) and this guy moved from table to table and accepted to pay some ladydrinks.
The guy in white shirt paid all his bills and upon leaving one of the stupid girls realized there is one bill not paid and went to them and told them to pay the bill (probably using unappropriated words).
The guy told her he paid everything already. They then told him, yes you have paid but you're friend didn't pay. The guy got angry and called the mamasan a liar and scammer.
It seems his friend was ready to pay the bill but white shirt guy didn't let him do it (probably felt they were being scammed). Then another of his friends (maybe the guy in blue shirt in the vid) verbally and physically assaulted other customers (taking one customer's phone off his hand thinking he was being filmed) and making other customers flee the bar.
That's when she called the 3 security pigs to come in because they didn't want to pay the bill and felt that the guy in white shirt got so angry that he could have hit her too.
It seems the guy that got KO'd didn't do anything wrong, felt scammed and didn't want to back down when the 3 pigs arrived.
ThatGuy101
05-27-24, 19:33
No the whole altercation started in the bar, 3 on 2, but the fat friend of the guy in white shirt was useless. He was too slow and let his friend being cornered by the 3 pigs and they both got KO'd 3 on 1 and 3 on 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1ClOSlyhEY
The rumors of a girl being punched was probably bullshit, they would have been jumped directly in the bar if it was true.
I've seen the video of the mamasan explaining what happened (in Thai), and it all started because of the bill.
They were 2 customers at first and paid their bill regularly but it seems another guy joined them (a fat guy, not clear if it's the same on the video) and this guy moved from table to table and accepted to pay some ladydrinks.
The guy in white shirt paid all his bills and upon leaving one of the stupid girls realized there is one bill not paid and went to them and told them to pay the bill (probably using unappropriated words).
The guy told her he paid everything already. They then told him, yes you have paid but you're friend didn't pay. The guy got angry and called the mamasan a liar and scammer.
It seems his friend was ready to pay the bill but white shirt guy didn't let him do it (probably felt they were being scammed). Then another of his friends (maybe the guy in blue shirt in the vid) verbally and physically assaulted other customers (taking one customer's phone off his hand thinking he was being filmed) and making other customers flee the bar.
That's when she called the 3 security pigs to come in because they didn't want to pay the bill and felt that the guy in white shirt got so angry that he could have hit her too.
It seems the guy that got KO'd didn't do anything wrong, felt scammed and didn't want to back down when the 3 pigs arrived.I watched one video online it's been removed now I believe but it was CTV footage inside the bar didn't look like he hit that chick on the face at all. When the 3 thugs showed up his friend was holding them back tryna de-escalate it but they were just running up on the guy they weren't there to talk that's pretty obvious when it went outside they beat the shit put him than same thing happened to his friend 2 dudes just kicking the shit out of him while ones on full mount punching his face in non stop than after they finish him the one dude Went Wwe Randy Orton (not even joking) and did the punt kick on his dudes skull he later motionless after that his friend tried to get back up to his feet the (the one who was tryna de-escalate) and one of thugs was still tryna beat him up the bar girls on the street all started holding the thugs back even they knew that was way to much the guy almost didn't stop I think the bar lied about him hitting the girl etc so it wouldn't hurt their business / jobs and to protect the security guards. The business for sure should've called the police not 3 thugs looking for a fight.
ThatGuy101
05-27-24, 19:38
Everyone knows about security guard attacks but what didn't make the headlines is the dude walking with his girl friend to 7/11 at 430 am in Phuket when he saw a fellow Brit tourist getting ganged by bunch of locals so he went over to what was happening he ended up getting stabbed and stumbling into the 7/11 went to the counter with blooding coming out his mouth trying ask for help but couldn't talk and collapsed on the floor and to undergo surgery.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13437475/amp/Brit-stabbed-break-fight-gang-attack-tourist-Thailand.html
Explorer8939
05-28-24, 00:09
There's a video circulating of two Brits being beaten by the security thugs on soi 6 in front of Helicopter.
I've read comments that one of them died after receiving a head quick while on the ground.
The violence used by these fat thugs is trully disgusting.
It is said the guys punched a girl in the face and didn't pay the bill but I've not seen any evidence.
Monger safely everyone and don't ever get in trouble with these fat thugs, it's still better to be scammed than beaten to death by these fat *ssholes.The alleged dead guy was found on video walking back to his hotel shortly afterwards.
There is another video showing his departure from the scene.
LittleBigMan
05-28-24, 01:34
Some article mentioned them as freelancers. In the video that starts inside, it seems she (mamasan) is contacting someone by phone. This is the point when the customer is irate in front of her. Soon after the guards came running in from another place.It is sad reality these freelancers are hired by a bar or a number of them but the police, media making sure names arent throw out. Hopefully just making them apology and claiming they are going to face charges regardless happens but don't hold our breath.
In the end is it really worth it pay the bill which is what is written one guy had a problem. It was reported one farang struck first and as of now refuse to press any charges.
ThatGuy101
05-28-24, 02:12
It is sad reality these freelancers are hired by a bar or a number of them but the police, media making sure names arent throw out. Hopefully just making them apology and claiming they are going to face charges regardless happens but don't hold our breath.
In the end is it really worth it pay the bill which is what is written one guy had a problem. It was reported one farang struck first and as of now refuse to press any charges.Maybe she was on the phone with the other bar to send security over it's all speculation as we weren't getting to many details at the moment but maybe just maybe the girl got them to rack up a bill of lady drinks than refused to be bar fined (golden rule one drink rule always ask if she's open to be bar fined) maybe that's why the disagreement followed by one of the friend on his bill or maybe they padded his bill we can't say for sure but yes always just pay your bill and never go back if you were scammed lesson learnt but getting a beat down that brutal over 110 $ Canadian bucks (2800 bhatt) is not worth it and one article says he's in the ICU in serious condition with no more updates but than u saw a video of him getting up so who really knows. I personally thing he’s in the hospital that’s why the Thai police were quick to arrest the guards I think the bar should be held responsible for the guards actions they should've called the police not send in blood thirsty goons to brutal assaults someone that bad. Just intimidation and they were judge jury and Executioner.. laws for a reason let the police handle it
Banana Boi
05-28-24, 03:41
Well run bars bring you the bill after every order and it sits in front of you. Very well run bars even make you sign the drink bill after each drink you order. ALWAYS check your bill EVERY time you get a new one. Dispute it on the spot if it's padded. Pay for your drinks round by round if they don't bring you a new bill after every order. Mistakes happen on bills. It's happened to me at a regular gogo bar I attend. My girls yelled at the cashier for me!
Newton York
05-28-24, 04:37
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wTHnxyf1MUk
What is wrong with some of these touristy types out there? They think just cause they're of a certain nationality they can mess with the locals? I'm firmly on the side of the Thais on this one. Don't mess with the locals! In any country you're in. Have some respect for the local customs and people, and learning some phrases of Thai go a long way too. I bet these idiots got drunk, went all belligerent and thought they could punch their way out like they would do in some shitty british pub somewhere. But boy did they get what they deserved. Can't get away with that shit in Thailand. Granted, I'll just say that certain types of foreigners will get treated like Gods in Asia, even if they look like freaking Danny Devito, but in this case these morons crossed the line, and you know what that line be? Cash money baby. Cash money.
Although those 2 kiwi idiots that tried to kill a cop, definitely got what they deserved. Just looking at the reports from the NZ side of things, they can't seem to be neutral at all, blaming everything on the Thai cop, but read the full story and you'll see the cop was just doing his job. Don't be that guy fellas. Don't be the ugly foreign tourist. Let's learn a thing or two from our fellow East Asian brothers, who monger quietly, respectfully, under the radar. Never causing problems. Just saying. I spent some years of my youth in South East Asia, cause of Uncle Sam of all things, so trust me, I know a thing or two about conflict.
Be nice.
Well run bars bring you the bill after every order and it sits in front of you. Very well run bars even make you sign the drink bill after each drink you order. ALWAYS check your bill EVERY time you get a new one. Dispute it on the spot if it's padded. Pay for your drinks round by round if they don't bring you a new bill after every order. Mistakes happen on bills. It's happened to me at a regular gogo bar I attend. My girls yelled at the cashier for me!Examining every bill when it is delivered is standard procedure for Thais. I know this from having dinners or lunches with them and they pick up the "check bin". There is nothing rude about doing this. SOP in Thailand. Legitimate mistakes can be made.
Sam.
Well run bars bring you the bill after every order and it sits in front of you. Very well run bars even make you sign the drink bill after each drink you order. ALWAYS check your bill EVERY time you get a new one. Dispute it on the spot if it's padded. Pay for your drinks round by round if they don't bring you a new bill after every order. Mistakes happen on bills. It's happened to me at a regular gogo bar I attend. My girls yelled at the cashier for me!Keeping it 100. First visit to Pattaya my friends taught me the system. I have yet to visit a bar or restaurant that has not followed the structure you outlined. One time a waitress at one of my favorite restaurants made a mistake on a bill charging me a side order when it was included in my meal. I pointed her error out on menu. She said she served me two the the particular item (she had not). I paid the bill and simply did not return anymore. When it comes to business I simply vote with my baht. There are too many business competing for my money to allow myself to get caught up in games any business owner wants to play.
A bar bill dispute is not a situation that requires the use of deadly force. Period!. Criminal charges should be filed against the security that used deadly force inappropriately.
Lots of bars on soi six are infamous for this, had this occur during my last trip in April when I was sitting with the same girl and had ordered her a ld and myself a new beer, got the updated bill and it had gone from 2 ld+1 beer to 5 ld+2 beer, I pointed out the mistake, the girl went to talk with the mamasan who offered a quick apology and it was fixed.
No point in causing a scene or being upset or aggressive like these guys but on the other hand don't be stupid and naive, these people aren't your friends.
Thanks PFI. I haven't been to a FKK in years nor do I read the Germany FKK forum of the same person replying to himself under multiple handles. Was considering going next Spring but you have just made is abundantly clear to me that Germany is out forever. My approach in Thailand is also very different than most "tourists". I do not pay barfines or buy tons of LD's just to get a girl to go with me. On occasion I may rack up a bigger drink bill than anyone wants to admit to but none of that bill will be for a barfine or because a girl wanted 10/20/40 drinks before she would go with me.
The bottom line is neither of these 2 places should be tops in your sex destination. They are both pricing themselves out of the market for top talent. Now if you want average or below average girls then both countries still have lots of options like Soi 6, Beach Road or Soi 25 in Thailand or Totalclub Osnabruck for 35 euro for 30 minutes or the AO clubs.Your final paragraph is interesting. If FKKs and Thailand have descended out of the top two (for me they are still in both slots!) where do you prefer? I've not done South America despite a lot of mongers urging the trip. I have a pal who went out to Columbia and Brazil for 3 weeks. For sure the girls were pretty but he was mugged twice in Brazil, robbed at gunpoint one of those times and was sure they would have killed him but for him paying up, and had two guys beat him up and steal his wallet outside a bar in Medellin. To be clear. This friend of mine is over 6 ft tall, 42 yrs old and has a good physique. He is no pushover but as someone once correctly said "muscles don't do well against bullets". So not sure SA is on my bucket list anytime soon. I've done Cambodia. Cheap but not stellar options. I have mongered in Spain for 30 years. Again - no longer cheap and poor options. Same is true of France, Germany outside of FKKs, Australia, Bali, Singapore. Dubai has fabulous options but is far from cheap. So I'm interested in which would be your top 3 for example and why.
I'm also not a huge BF fan. Indeed when in Thailand I much prefer the Gents Clubs for atmosphere and general relaxation. Never done the AO clubs in Germany. Bareback definitely not for me.
Keeping it 100. First visit to Pattaya my friends taught me the system. I have yet to visit a bar or restaurant that has not followed the structure you outlined. One time a waitress at one of my favorite restaurants made a mistake on a bill charging me a side order when it was included in my meal. I pointed her error out on menu. She said she served me two the the particular item (she had not). I paid the bill and simply did not return anymore. When it comes to business I simply vote with my baht. There are too many business competing for my money to allow myself to get caught up in games any business owner wants to play.
A bar bill dispute is not a situation that requires the use of deadly force. Period!. Criminal charges should be filed against the security that used deadly force inappropriately.I have the same mentality. If I am being short changed or overcharged, I let them know that and if they don't rectify it I let them know that I will not be returning. As you said, let your money do the talking.
I have only had a few instances of this anyways and it was only for a 100 THB one time and a few hundred THB the other, no big deal. But it's about being treated with respect.
My. 2 cents is to not frequent Soi 6 bars. So many reputable bars and GCs in Buakho and around Pattaya and Jomtien where you don't have to worry about this kind of stuff, especially getting your a $$ kicked or killed. That's why when Indo go to the 6, I simply talk to the ladies from the curb, negotiate and head up for ST. I have never and never will I frequent a Soi 6 bar for drinks.
Banana Boi
05-28-24, 19:13
Your final paragraph is interesting. If FKKs and Thailand have descended out of the top two (for me they are still in both slots!) where do you prefer? For me it's hands down Jakarta right now and has been for years. Walk into Classic and you'll wonder why you haven't been going there for years. Jakarta is mainly point and shoot like Soi 6 with rooms on premise. Read the Jakarta forum. I try posting updates every few days only to have LoveItHere continue to rag on me that all my posts are story telling. Of course he doesn't post any reviews and says he's there. Anyways off topic.
On a way different rate scale is Japan but you'll be used to it paying Oase girls 200 euro per hour. Beautiful Japanese girls in RLD. No, I'm not referring to Tokyo's old ladies. No, you won't videos of these places on YouTube cause everyone is afraid of backlash from the Yakuza. Expensive? Damn right for a cheap arse like myself but you have to spoil yourself once in a while.
Beautiful girls in HCMC too but quick FS options other than online stuff is limited to massage places. Check out YouTube videos of Cherry Linh Spa. Stunning lineup. I think it's Asian Nights that posts some good YouTube videos.
Another favorite for many guys is PP. Khmer girls aren't really my look so I don't go.
SoberHans69
05-28-24, 19:52
For me it's hands down Jakarta right now and has been for years. Walk into Classic and you'll wonder why you haven't been going there for years. Jakarta is mainly point and shoot like Soi 6 with rooms on premise. Read the Jakarta forum. I try posting updates every few days only to have LoveItHere continue to rag on me that all my posts are story telling. Of course he doesn't post any reviews and says he's there. Anyways off topic.
On a way different rate scale is Japan but you'll be used to it paying Oase girls 200 euro per hour. Beautiful Japanese girls in RLD. No, I'm not referring to Tokyo's old ladies. No, you won't videos of these places on YouTube cause everyone is afraid of backlash from the Yakuza. Expensive? Damn right for a cheap arse like myself but you have to spoil yourself once in a while.
Beautiful girls in HCMC too but quick FS options other than online stuff is limited to massage places. Check out YouTube videos of Cherry Linh Spa. Stunning lineup. I think it's Asian Nights that posts some good YouTube videos.
Another favorite for many guys is PP. Khmer girls aren't really my look so I don't go.I've read plenty of times that the girls at Classic are pretty much forced to work there. Main thing that's put me off trying Jakarta.
My answer is "as long as I can remember" (and that is as long ago as 30 years and as recently as 6 years).
This is based on first-hand experience; that is, knowing the Thais who have visited Cowboy with me. Also, some upper middle / lower "high class" Khmer dudes. One held a Secretary position in the Thaksin Adminstration. (And, I don't mean a "clerk-typist. LOL) Another was a Thai whose father was the Thai Ambassador to a European country.) Another, an assistant professor at a well-known Thai uni. The Khmer were very successful entrepeneurs and government officials in Cambodia.
Generalizations aside, can be very difficult to really know whether a person is Thai, Khmer, or even Filipino. Even among those groups, they can have difficulty in identifying nationality just by appearance.
Now, in only one case did any of them barfine a "dancer". They were just curious about the scene and all thoroughly enjoyed the evenings. In the one case when one of the Thais did barfine, the mamasan explained that the girl could not be seen leaving with him. He was told that the girl could have a boyfriend in the area and it could make for a problem. She did not want to set a precedent. (Maybe the boyfriend would think she was going to get a lower payment. Ha ha ha) I should note that he did choose a "stunner"; what you might call "the pick of the litter". LOL.
In the handful of occasions of which I speak, not once were my Thai or Khmer friends refused entry or service or ignored by the girls at the biggest and "best" bars on Cowboy.
Sam.More likely it was because the boyfriend was ok about her going with a farang for money (that she would later share with him), as we don't count, while drama would ensue if he saw her go with a Thai man.
While I've long since put the guy you responded to on ignore due all the useless nonsense posted, he does have a point here I believe. You're friends were obviously upper class, and that would be obvious to the bar staff by their appearance and behaviour, no doubt resulting in the usual thai deference to another Thai of higher status. You say you went with other Thai guys too, but I suspect if your friends were motorbike taxi guys, or of similar stature, they'd be much less welcome.
One mamasan I fucked a few times (for free, when I was still young and handsome, after meeting here at a regular club the first time) said she did not want thai men inside her bar because they worried they could be undercover police, but I suspect a bigger part of the reason was the aforementioned "sex with farang for money doesn't count to the thai boyfriend".
LittleBigMan
05-29-24, 03:34
Maybe she was on the phone with the other bar to send security over it's all speculation as we weren't getting to many details at the moment but maybe just maybe the girl got them to rack up a bill of lady drinks than refused to be bar fined (golden rule one drink rule always ask if she's open to be bar fined) maybe that's why the disagreement followed by one of the friend on his bill or maybe they padded his bill we can't say for sure but yes always just pay your bill and never go back if you were scammed lesson learnt but getting a beat down that brutal over 110 $ Canadian bucks (2800 bhatt) is not worth it and one article says he's in the ICU in serious condition with no more updates but than u saw a video of him getting up so who really knows. I personally thing hes in the hospital thats why the Thai police were quick to arrest the guards I think the bar should be held responsible for the guards actions they should've called the police not send in blood thirsty goons to brutal assaults someone that bad. Just intimidation and they were judge jury and Executioner.. laws for a reason let the police handle itAgree, we don't know what happened as to what set off the events. The last report I read the 3 have admitted to the fight and has gotten a tongue lashing from police in charge of case. The spokemans has said unless a complaint is file they can't retain the 3 individual as of yet they haven't been able to locate them searching CCTV as to where they might have gone. If there is a guy in the hospital or ICU, I'm sure the keystone cops would have been able to figure that one out?
Reality these freelancers work for someone or a number of someone's but those names aren't being mentioned for reasons. From my experience these types of jobs when created normally comes from friends of already police in this district would be Soi 9, or Banglamung, someone has to endorse these jobs guys just can't decide one day we are going into the security business. That being said the things that always happen is they make a big show and tell scene this is all for tourist benefits they are safe but swept under the rug.
Banana Boi
05-29-24, 04:34
If I am being short changed or overcharged, I let them know that and if they don't rectify it I let them know that I will not be returning. As you said, let your money do the talking.
I have only had a few instances of this anyways and it was only for a 100 THB one time and a few hundred THB the other, no big deal. But it's about being treated with respect.I was only in Ho Chi Minh for a couple of days last week but I made a point of going past the bar that imo ripped me off in March. I was added an "infatuation fee" because I messaged the girl on Zalo to see if she was working that night. I was also charged the bar seat fee which I negotiated not to be charged when I walked in. Sure it's not even $20 US but like you say it's about being treated with respect especially when they know I return to the city often.
Anyways, walked passed the bar in Little Japan. Minh Tu was so happy to see me. She grabbed and held on to me for dear life. She tried pulling me into the bar. I said don't you remember last time I said I would never walk into your bar again. She feigned ignorance. Then I told the bar manager who is pretty hot see what happens when you rip off a regular. Pulled Minh Tu's arm from around me and started talking to a girl 2 bars down. Minh Tu has not stopped messaging me on Zalo since sending me photos of herself and how she misses me. Her momentary greed collecting the "infatuation fee" and not defending me for no bar seat fee has cost her dearly in the long run.
Examining every bill when it is delivered is standard procedure for Thais. I know this from having dinners or lunches with them and they pick up the "check bin". There is nothing rude about doing this. SOP in Thailand. Legitimate mistakes can be made.
Sam.First rule I learned getting off the plane ages ago. Examine every bill. Or pay for each one as they come.
EverythingThai
05-29-24, 05:21
For me, the gents club are not only the best value for your buck, but the fun and mileage you have and get with the ladies is amazing. First of all, the gents clubs are very laid back. I go in and can play whatever music I want. It's like your friendly neighborhood bar. Secondly, the alcohol is cheap, even the lady drinks are on the lower side, 150 Baht. Third, the girls aren't pushy and they get naked after getting a few drinks. If you buy them a few wracks they will give you a BJ right there in the bar. Fourthly, the cost for ST is very affordable. The standard 1500 Baht. Good customers aren't even charged for the room in some cases. That was the case for me recently. Finally, the girls are always great fun and they do almost anything. Recently, I had a threesome in a gents club. 1500 each girl. For a tip, it was BBFS CIP both girls. No nonsense with changing condoms and they were both hot and sexy 25 years olds. Love it!
EverythingThai
05-29-24, 05:34
Bareback definitely not for me.Just a comment. If this is not for you then that is of course your choice. However, I just want to make you aware that in the gents clubs and Soi 6 in Pattaya, the majority of the girls provide BBFSCIP for either no extra charge or with a tip. Therefore, the girl that you choose to be with in Pattaya will of most likely barebacked most of her clients. Punters need to be comfortable with that before partaking with any lady whether they prefer to use condoms or not. How do I know this info you ask? I know because I have never had to use a condom with any working girl in Thailand for the last 14 years.
EverythingThai
05-29-24, 05:41
Lots of bars on soi six are infamous for this, had this occur during my last trip in April when I was sitting with the same girl and had ordered her a ld and myself a new beer, got the updated bill and it had gone from 2 ld+1 beer to 5 ld+2 beer, I pointed out the mistake, the girl went to talk with the mamasan who offered a quick apology and it was fixed.
No point in causing a scene or being upset or aggressive like these guys but on the other hand don't be stupid and naive, these people aren't your friends.This is the best way to handle this. You need to always be checking your bin so you can address any issues immediately. The problem with most guys is they get drunk and never check their bin. When it comes time to pay, they either forget or the mistake happened long before they decided to check bin. You have to address the mistake immediately. Always check your bin after each time you order. Never cause a big scene over a few baht. People get drunk and when that happens, we all lose our minds. LOL.
EverythingThai
05-29-24, 05:52
I think it is all part of the Night Wish Group business strategy, they own a big chunk of the soi 6 bars. They focus on "drinks only" venues and their girls are instructed so.
Was the same when they ran 2-3 bars in pothole (blue, orange or whatever, maybe they still own them): drinks only, girls trained to lightly tease but not hands on by all means. Just a continuous flow of drinks, diluted for the girls. Good for the girls not willing to spread legs every second hour. Inspired by Japanese and Korean whisky lounges. Where customers spend endless hours with a bottle of whisky and the girls pouring in the glasses. No sex, just getting devastated and drunk patrons then in the streets.
Each one his own.Honestly, the bars' only strategy is always to sell drinks. The revenue from the short time rooms won't pay the salaries of the girls. To me this strategy on Soi 6 has always been the same. The reason we hear more and more complaints these days is that business is not the same as before. There are less guys coming in buying drinks for the girls. Before, it was balanced out. The were enough guys buying lady drinks so the Cheap Charles could crack as normal. It's not that way now. The girl might be happy to get her ST fee, but she won't have a job for too long if she can't make her drink quota. These girls don't want to freelance for many obvious reasons. Therefore, not making a drink quota gets them kicked to the curb. I know many girls who told me about this. They bounce from bar to bar because of it. The bar needs to sell drinks to make money and pay salaries. This Soi 6 trend is not new and it's normal for all bars if they hire contract girls.
Just a comment. If this is not for you then that is of course your choice. However, I just want to make you aware that in the gents clubs and Soi 6 in Pattaya, the majority of the girls provide BBFSCIP for either no extra charge or with a tip. Therefore, the girl that you choose to be with in Pattaya will of most likely barebacked most of her clients. Punters need to be comfortable with that before partaking with any lady whether they prefer to use condoms or not. How do I know this info you ask? I know because I have never had to use a condom with any working girl in Thailand for the last 14 years.What about the freelancers on beach road?? Do they also provide BBFSCIP with or without a tip??
Asking for myself LOL.
EverythingThai
05-29-24, 06:00
Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.Not always. There's a Thai go go bar in Bangkok in the Sephan Kwai area. The standard 2500 Baht ST is charged to a foreign customer that comes in as well. The fee is broken down like this. 1700 for the girl, 400 for the hotel and 400 for the bar. Most of the girls are a 7+ out of 10. Also in Bangkok, there are sideline websites for freelancers looking for Thai customers. Foreigners have caught on and try to use them now. They pay the same price or they are refused outright. There is never a farang uncharge as the prices are posted clearly in the girls' ad.
Not always. There's a Thai go go bar in Bangkok in the Sephan Kwai area. The standard 2500 Baht ST is charged to a foreign customer that comes in as well. The fee is broken down like this. 1700 for the girl, 400 for the hotel and 400 for the bar. Most of the girls are a 7+ out of 10. Also in Bangkok, there are sideline websites for freelancers looking for Thai customers. Foreigners have caught on and try to use them now. They pay the same price or they are refused outright. There is never a farang uncharge as the prices are posted clearly in the girls' ad.What are these sidelines websites with price that you're taking about?
EverythingThai
05-29-24, 07:41
What are these sidelines websites with price that you're taking about?Check the Bangkok section of the Thailand section. The name of one of the sites is Few Fans, but there are plenty of them.
Honestly, the bars' only strategy is always to sell drinks. The revenue from the short time rooms won't pay the salaries of the girls. To me this strategy on Soi 6 has always been the same. The reason we hear more and more complaints these days is that business is not the same as before. There are less guys coming in buying drinks for the girls. Before, it was balanced out. The were enough guys buying lady drinks so the Cheap Charles could crack as normal. It's not that way now. The girl might be happy to get her ST fee, but she won't have a job for too long if she can't make her drink quota. These girls don't want to freelance for many obvious reasons. Therefore, not making a drink quota gets them kicked to the curb. I know many girls who told me about this. They bounce from bar to bar because of it. The bar needs to sell drinks to make money and pay salaries. This Soi 6 trend is not new and it's normal for all bars if they hire contract girls.I had paid a lot of LD before. Today I don't do that anymore. Today I have to pay 150 baht for a small glass of sugar water. The little glass is then very quickly empty and the girl asks for a new drink. I used to ring the bell sometimes too. I don't do that anymore. When I'm horny I go on TF or flirt with someone in the supermarket or on the beach. No BF and no 150 baht sugar water.
If the bars change their mind and I can buy a girl a beer or another drink for a reasonable price, then I'll go to bars again. The bars used to be so full that you sometimes had to wait to get a seat. But 150 baht of sugar water won't fill a bar.
The bar operators are not really good business people.
ThatGuy101
05-29-24, 10:58
Agree, we don't know what happened as to what set off the events. The last report I read the 3 have admitted to the fight and has gotten a tongue lashing from police in charge of case. The spokemans has said unless a complaint is file they can't retain the 3 individual as of yet they haven't been able to locate them searching CCTV as to where they might have gone. If there is a guy in the hospital or ICU, I'm sure the keystone cops would have been able to figure that one out?
Reality these freelancers work for someone or a number of someone's but those names aren't being mentioned for reasons. From my experience these types of jobs when created normally comes from friends of already police in this district would be Soi 9, or Banglamung, someone has to endorse these jobs guys just can't decide one day we are going into the security business. That being said the things that always happen is they make a big show and tell scene this is all for tourist benefits they are safe but swept under the rug.
I totally agree but I do think the other tourist are afraid of their safety maybe some treats there way or maybe they don't want to come public to be enemy number one because Thailand is under some real heat with this. That's why I also think they are tryna take the heat off the subject to all the suddenly giving tourist now a 60 day free visa instead of 30 and so many more changes to the visas to bring in more people ( like a magic trick look at this hand of me doing good not this hand of me hiding the tricks ) and get the spotlight off the goons jumping tourists over 2800 bhatt I definitely find it weird we have no update on the guy in the icu yet I think he's dead and hope I really hope I'm wrong and he's okay but they ain't telling us for the backlash they will face they just want to push it under the rug until things die down people say they saw him walking back to the hotel but a YouTuber brought up a good point is that old footage of them just walking down the walking street before the incident. I don't like how we have 0 updates or stories from the tourist side to tell their side they are getting pushed aside.
Banana Boi
05-29-24, 11:06
Check the Bangkok section of the Thailand section. The name of one of the sites is Few Fans, but there are plenty of them.OJ, I believe EThai meant Fiwfans and not "Few Fans".
Mr Enternational
05-29-24, 13:28
If the bars change their mind and I can buy a girl a beer or another drink for a reasonable price, then I'll go to bars again. The bars used to be so full that you sometimes had to wait to get a seat. But 150 baht of sugar water won't fill a bar.
The bar operators are not really good business people.But you can choose what drink you want to buy for the girl. If you allow the girl to choose the sugar water then that is on you.
Chris Long
05-29-24, 13:55
What are Soi 6 Prices now. Have not been to Pattaya since before the pandemic used to be cheap back then 300 to 400 for bar and 1000 for the girl. But have been quoted some very high prices as much as 2000 for bar fine and girls asking for 3000 to 4000. It all may depend upon how well they like you.
EverythingThai
05-29-24, 14:37
OJ, I believe EThai meant Fiwfans and not "Few Fans".Yes. Correct.
EverythingThai
05-29-24, 14:43
Today I have to pay 150 baht for a small glass of sugar water. No BF and no 150 baht sugar water. The bar operators are not really good business people.It's not sugar water mate. It is tequila that has been watered down about 50%. If what you say is true about the bars, they would all be closed. Why? Because most operate the same. If they followed your business model, they would go broke. Why? Girls won't work there. There is no money to be made on 90 Baht Leos, and the bar is not going to make money on the ST rooms. Like I said before, the reason why the bars seemed different before is only because there were more guys buying drinks for the girls. Then guys like you could go in and do your thing and get out and the girls were happy. Why? Because they could balance out their style of work. One day they might make more on ST and other days they could get enough drinks to make their quota. Because of the economy today, it's not easy to do this now. So, with all due respect, you are wrong.
Could anyone recommend a gent club in Jomtien? Or place with quality bargirls?
Is the Kit Kat club the best? They seem to have the prettiest girls in their pictures, but that doesn't always mean anything.
EverythingThai
05-29-24, 14:46
What about the freelancers on beach road?? Do they also provide BBFSCIP with or without a tip??
Asking for myself LOL.I would not know because I would never go with a girl from beach road. They are there for a reason.
Could anyone recommend a gent club in Jomtien? Or place with quality bargirls?
Is the Kit Kat club the best? They seem to have the prettiest girls in their pictures, but that doesn't always mean anything.
...... Therefore, the girl that you choose to be with in Pattaya will of most likely barebacked most of her clients......This is why I am afraid of going bareback with them.
Christian G
05-29-24, 17:37
Could anyone recommend a gent club in Jomtien? Or place with quality bargirls?
Is the Kit Kat club the best? They seem to have the prettiest girls in their pictures, but that doesn't always mean anything.You can try:
Passion https://www.facebook.com/passionpattaya.
Nirvana https://www.facebook.com/NIRVANAJomtien/.
Lips Lounge https://www.facebook.com/lipsjomtien.
Liquor Lounge https://www.facebook.com/liquorloungepattaya.
I don't know if the line up could be better than Kit Kat.
EverythingThai
05-29-24, 17:38
Could anyone recommend a gent club in Jomtien? Or place with quality bargirls?
Is the Kit Kat club the best? They seem to have the prettiest girls in their pictures, but that doesn't always mean anything.Pussy Galore and Maggie Mays Jomtien location. However, line up will be hit and miss each day. One day full of hot young chicks and another day older less attractive ones. The G clubs rarely have consistent line ups. Thats why you need to go to a few. Kinaree in Pratunmnak is also good.
EverythingThai
05-29-24, 17:41
This is why I am afraid of going bareback with them.Some guys won't go with girls even if wearing a condom because they know they have barebacked many guys. That's why I mentioned either with or without a condom. Some guys actually believe when girls tell them they don't go with many customers or believe when they say they have only gone BB with them and no other customers. The point is that if you are paranoid about the ladies not using condoms with customers before you then Pattaya is not there place for you.
Expat American
05-29-24, 17:44
I would not know because I would never go with a girl from beach road. They are there for a reason.Yes, the reason is to go fuck strangers for money. Just like every other hooker in Pattaya. Just the pick up location and price is different. Once in the room its all the same.
Expat American
05-29-24, 17:58
I've read plenty of times that the girls at Classic are pretty much forced to work there. Main thing that's put me off trying Jakarta.Its always a thin blurry line in all brothels all over the world. If the morality bothers you, best not go to third world countries to fuck prostitutes. Of course that will change nothing in their circumstances but would make you feel better. Or you could go and fuck them, don't abuse them and give them a nice tip. That would actually be helpful to them, at least for a short time. But up to you of course. Just a different way of thinking about it. As for Classic I know for sure its not 100% true for all girls but that doesn't mean there are no such cases either. And when you pick them from a line up you won't know which is which.
Explorer8939
05-29-24, 19:04
Some guys won't go with girls even if wearing a condom because they know they have barebacked many guys. That's why I mentioned either with or without a condom. Some guys actually believe when girls tell them they don't go with many customers or believe when they say they have only gone BB with them and no other customers. The point is that if you are paranoid about the ladies not using condoms with customers before you then Pattaya is not there place for you.Most ladies go with Thai men, and don't use a condom. Many of the younger Thai men go with Farangs and don't use a condom.
I would not know because I would never go with a girl from beach road. They are there for a reason.Well there has been discussion here in this thread as recently as yesterday about the bars on soi 6 requiring the girls to get a certain amount of lady drinks per day or else they get let go. Therefore is it unreasonable to conclude that bar girls who don't make the LD cuota on soi 6 may end up on beach road?
I'm not one for paying for inflated-priced lady drinks or overpriced short time hotel rooms. My plan is to find freelancers on Beach Road and bring them to my Airbnb for ST.
If you search on YouTube for "beach road Pattaya at night" there are a bunch of videos showing the working girls of beach road and not all of them are bad looking. In one video a guy with an Indian accent was even going up to them and asking "how much for ST / LT?" most girls replied 1000 baht for ST.
Yes, the reason is to go fuck strangers for money. Just like every other hooker in Pattaya. Just the pick up location and price is different. Once in the room it's all the same.Thank you for stating things with true clarity.
I would not know because I would never go with a girl from beach road. They are there for a reason.I am interested in hearing your opinion of why you think they are on beach road?
Could anyone recommend a gent club in Jomtien? Or place with quality bargirls?
Is the Kit Kat club the best? They seem to have the prettiest girls in their pictures, but that doesn't always mean anything.You are 100% spot on about the pictures meaning nothing. Before my recent 4 week trip I must have put 100 hours of research in. YouTube / ISG / Discord etc.
All very helpful but when it comes to actual girls working there. Sadly very few of the videos / clips / above sites are that helpful.
That's because all of the GC's employ the ladies on 10 day contracts only. They move on.
In short. Jomtien is a MUCH better place to stay than Pattaya if you like a bit of quality in terms of surroundings.
You'll get lots telling you it's too far out. Sure. In a Bolt it might cost you $5 if that.
Don't buy the BS about not being able to get back. Total and utter BS. Bolts run all night and will get you there if need be from Bukhao.
Best GCs in Jomtien?
Daytime. Kineree by a mile. Freelancers. No pics on site. Mainly girls from agogo bars not having the best week wanting to earn extra by day.
Catflaps. Very upscale beautiful bar. Good atmosphere and action in public if that's your thing.
Kit Catz is ok. But only that. Situated in heart of Jomtien behind a great pool bar.
Passion. Hit and miss.
Pussy Galore. Miles out of town = beware Bell. Absolute 10/10 stunner. Until you find out she is LB!
Maggie Mays now in Jomtien. One or two decent girls but they all complain the club is too cold.
Venom. Ok nothing great.
Cobra. Ditto.
You'll find good ladies in the pool bars. Lonestar - excellent.
I will never stay in downtown Pattaya again. Too dirty too busy, mad traffic, too loud. Stay in Jomtien. It's a gem and everything in Pattaya is available 10-15 minutes away.
Mr Enternational
05-30-24, 02:13
Yes, the reason is to go fuck strangers for money. Just like every other hooker in Pattaya. Just the pick up location and price is different. Once in the room its all the same.Same as the airport taxi. You can go down to the first floor and get an official airport taxi for 2500 baht (gogo bar). You can email a service for somebody to wait on the second floor with your name on a sign for 1500 baht (Soi 6). You can do like me and go outside on the fourth floor and get one for 800 baht (Beach Road). Pick up locations and prices are different, but once inside the car it is all the same.
Some guys look at the bells and whistles that come with the more expensive examples and feel they are somehow getting a better end product. Big fancy desk where you get the official airport taxi. Big stage and fancy lights when you are in the gogo. Custom sign with your name on it when you get the taxi service. Chick to throw a few back with you when you are on Soi 6. Hop in the car and go when you are up on the fourth floor. Get straight down to fucking when you get a chick from Beach Road.
Mr Enternational
05-30-24, 02:39
I will never stay in downtown Pattaya again. Too dirty too busy, mad traffic, too loud. Stay in Jomtien. It's a gem and everything in Pattaya is available 10-15 minutes away.Pros and cons. Convenience has a cost. If you want to drop some shopping bags off at your place, take a comfortable shit, or just go in to cool off a few minutes, 5 minutes round trip versus the over thirty for staying in Jomtien.
As far as cost of living, you definitely get more bang for your buck in Jomtien or the darkside, but if you are coming for holiday is a different animal. If I am going to New York City for holiday, would you recommend staying 20 minutes away in Hoboken, New Jersey because it is quieter and less busy?
You are 100% spot on about the pictures meaning nothing. Before my recent 4 week trip I must have put 100 hours of research in. YouTube / ISG / Discord etc.
All very helpful but when it comes to actual girls working there. Sadly very few of the videos / clips / above sites are that helpful.
That's because all of the GC's employ the ladies on 10 day contracts only. They move on.
In short. Jomtien is a MUCH better place to stay than Pattaya if you like a bit of quality in terms of surroundings.
You'll get lots telling you it's too far out. Sure. In a Bolt it might cost you $5 if that.
Don't buy the BS about not being able to get back. Total and utter BS. Bolts run all night and will get you there if need be from Bukhao.
Best GCs in Jomtien?
Daytime. Kineree by a mile. Freelancers. No pics on site. Mainly girls from agogo bars not having the best week wanting to earn extra by day.
Catflaps. Very upscale beautiful bar. Good atmosphere and action in public if that's your thing.
Kit Catz is ok. But only that. Situated in heart of Jomtien behind a great pool bar.
Passion. Hit and miss.
Pussy Galore. Miles out of town = beware Bell. Absolute 10/10 stunner. Until you find out she is LB!
Maggie Mays now in Jomtien. One or two decent girls but they all complain the club is too cold.
Venom. Ok nothing great.
Cobra. Ditto.
You'll find good ladies in the pool bars. Lonestar - excellent.
I will never stay in downtown Pattaya again. Too dirty too busy, mad traffic, too loud. Stay in Jomtien. It's a gem and everything in Pattaya is available 10-15 minutes away.I stayed in Jomtien 2 weeks ago and the one way system on beach road makes getting about very difficult.
I stayed in Jomtien 2 weeks ago and the one way system on beach road makes getting about very difficult.A temporary situation. Due to construction. Easily overcome if you take Bolt moto.
Interesting, if I was on vacation here in Pattaya I would chose to stay central Pattaya. The travel time annoys me. I do not recommend Jomtien to 1st time visitors. Come check it out. But stay in the heard of the action for your first trip.
It's not sugar water mate. It is tequila that has been watered down about 50%.I tried it twice. Both times diluted fruit juices without alcohol.
Like I said before, the reason why the bars seemed different before is only because there were more guys buying drinks for the girls. Then guys like you could go in and do your thing and get out and the girls were happy. Why? But that's exactly what I'm saying. You are confusing cause and effect. Why does almost no one go to Soi 6 bars anymore? Because you can't have fun there anymore. And why can't you have fun there anymore? Because there is only sugar water there but no boum boum.
Things were different before Corona. The bars were full of horny men and a lot more drinks were sold. You could have a lot of fun.
Without ST rooms and boum boum you can't fill a bar on Soi 6.
When I was on Soi 6 for the first time almost 20 years ago there were only Gents clubs there. If you sat alone at the bar for more than 5 minutes, the Mamasan almost had a heart attack and said: "Big Boss thop salop salai me when you sit alone. What girl you like". BTW: ST 700 + room 300 .
Today you're sitting alone in the bar and the girls are standing outside (Night Wish strategy). And if you're lucky and one comes to you, you have to order her a new glass of sugar water every 3 minutes, otherwise she'll leave again. Sex sells, but not overpriced LDs.
So, with all due respect, you are wrong.
No sir, I'm right. It worked well before, why shouldn't it work anymore?
But you can choose what drink you want to buy for the girl. If you allow the girl to choose the sugar water then that is on you.Yes I know. But I am a gentleman. When I invite a lady for a drink, I don't tell her what to drink. That would be rude.
Of course she then orders sugar water because that's how she makes the most money.
I have no problem paying 150 or 180 baht for an LD. But then it should be a real drink. As before.
ThatGuy101
05-30-24, 07:40
I totally agree but I do think the other tourist are afraid of their safety maybe some treats there way or maybe they don't want to come public to be enemy number one because Thailand is under some real heat with this. That's why I also think they are tryna take the heat off the subject to all the suddenly giving tourist now a 60 day free visa instead of 30 and so many more changes to the visas to bring in more people ( like a magic trick look at this hand of me doing good not this hand of me hiding the tricks ) and get the spotlight off the goons jumping tourists over 2800 bhatt I definitely find it weird we have no update on the guy in the icu yet I think he's dead and hope I really hope I'm wrong and he's okay but they ain't telling us for the backlash they will face they just want to push it under the rug until things die down people say they saw him walking back to the hotel but a YouTuber brought up a good point is that old footage of them just walking down the walking street before the incident. I don't like how we have 0 updates or stories from the tourist side to tell their side they are getting pushed aside.I was wrong and thankfully I was I don't have an ego to admit I was wrong! I just watched an update thankfully the guys all good like a member posted before he did get up and go back to his hotel fine and he went out drinking the same night on soi 6 other than after bruises and cuts to his head he was fine what a tough son of gun! That footage was brutal but that guy can taking a beating ahahah! All jokes aside I'm happy to see he's live and well.
Mr Enternational
05-30-24, 10:05
Yes I know. But I am a gentleman. When I invite a lady for a drink, I don't tell her what to drink. That would be rude.LOL. You are in a hoarhouse. Save being a gentleman for cocktail parties full of elite socialites.
EverythingThai
05-30-24, 10:11
Today you're sitting alone in the bar and the girls are standing outside (Night Wish strategy). And if you're lucky and one comes to you, you have to order her a new glass of sugar water every 3 minutes, otherwise she'll leave again. Sex sells, but not overpriced LDs.
No sir, I'm right. It worked well before, why shouldn't it work anymore?I have never had that problem. I am always greeted with offers to sit down. Further, I could care less what the girl drinks. I have never had a girl drink sugar water to pass off as tequila on the 6. I have smelled their drinks many times because they wanted me to know they were real. You must just have bad luck.
EverythingThai
05-30-24, 10:28
I am interested in hearing your opinion of why you think they are on beach road?
Yes, the reason is to go fuck strangers for money. Just like every other hooker in Pattaya. Just the pick up location and price is different. Once in the room its all the same.
Those girls are there for a reason. No lady wants to stand on the street for all to see. They would rather be in a bar or work freelance. It is more discreet for them. However, they can't work in the bars because customers complain too much about them. Secondly, they might be sick. Thirdly, they might be drug addicts and don't have the freedom to do it if they are working in bar. Next, they might be underage and can't work in a bar. Next, they can't go on Thai Friendly or Tinder because their accounts keep getting band for scamming guys. Finally, they plan to rob you so you won't have a bar to complain too or go back to for recourse or a Thai friendly account or line ID or phone number to use to identify them when you go to the cops. I could go on. The list is a mile long.
Those girls are there for a reason. No lady wants to stand on the street for all to see. They would rather be in a bar or work freelance. It is more discreet for them. However, they can't work in the bars because customers complain too much about them. Secondly, they might be sick. Thirdly, they might be drug addicts and don't have the freedom to do it if they are working in bar. Next, they might be underage and can't work in a bar. Next, they can't go on Thai Friendly or Tinder because their accounts keep getting band for scamming guys. Finally, they plan to rob you so you won't have a bar to complain too or go back to for recourse or a Thai friendly account or line ID or phone number to use to identify them when you go to the cops. I could go on. The list is a mile long.Oh my Buddha, you are very afraid.
- Customers also complain about bar girls (I did a few times).
- Bar girls can be sick too. There is no medical check in bars.
- There are girls addicted to Jabba or Weed in every third or fourth bar (own experience).
- Minors work in every fourth or fifth bar (own experience).
- Bar girls don't steal? LOL.
Most of the girls at the beach are there because they simply don't have time to work at the bar from 6 pm to 3 am every day. Maybe because they have another job, maybe because they have a family or children, etc. They don't stand there every day but only when money is tight.
LittleBigMan
05-30-24, 12:00
I was wrong and thankfully I was I don't have an ego to admit I was wrong! I just watched an update thankfully the guys all good like a member posted before he did get up and go back to his hotel fine and he went out drinking the same night on soi 6 other than after bruises and cuts to his head he was fine what a tough son of gun! That footage was brutal but that guy can taking a beating ahahah! All jokes aside I'm happy to see he's live and well.It has been reported they locate two of the three involved the victim who got kicked in the head and his brother. The 3rd supposely guy who pushed customer out is gone took a flight out.
He officially after talking with police filed a former complaint against the guards, report also guards said they werent hired by any bar working independently LOL, had no traing and no authrization from anyone in Pattaya City, therefore will be prosecuted for those violation.
Basicslly don't snitch victims are leaving June 8th, which my book will not stick around means no case will quietly go away.
Mr Enternational
05-30-24, 12:44
Those girls are there for a reason. No lady wants to stand on the street for all to see. They would rather be in a bar or work freelance. It is more discreet for them. However, they can't work in the bars because customers complain too much about them. I could go on. The list is a mile long.All these "mights" scream you have no idea what you are talking about. First of all the chicks working Beach Road are in fact, freelance! How many guys here have been robbed by a Beach Road girl? I am guessing zero. So the girls sitting outside of gogos with big signs and the ones trying to pull a guy into a bar are being discreet to you?
Let you tell it, Big Mama has a hamburger stand on Soi Buakhao, but she would rather work at McDonald's. She can not work there because customers complained too much and she kept getting fired from Burger King. Never mind people just may want to come and go as they please and have other things to do besides sit in a bar all night.
The chicks, especially from this area, have other obligations and are not able to sit in bars day in and day out like the chicks that come from out of town and may even live at the bar. More chicks than a little are standing on Beach Road and talking in Thai Friendly at the same time waiting to land a customer. Many of those chicks also go to the Walking Street discos when the time is right. What you have just stated is a bunch of prejudice nonsense. Never been around the people but can make a mile long list of assumptions.
Mr Enternational
05-30-24, 12:49
He officially after talking with police filed a former complaint against the guards, victims are leaving June 8th, So they are not sticking around to collect their 500 baht?
Same as the airport taxi. You can go down to the first floor and get an official airport taxi for 2500 baht (gogo bar). You can email a service for somebody to wait on the second floor with your name on a sign for 1500 baht (Soi 6). You can do like me and go outside on the fourth floor and get one for 800 baht (Beach Road). Pick up locations and prices are different, but once inside the car it is all the same.
Some guys look at the bells and whistles that come with the more expensive examples and feel they are somehow getting a better end product. Big fancy desk where you get the official airport taxi. Big stage and fancy lights when you are in the gogo. Custom sign with your name on it when you get the taxi service. Chick to throw a few back with you when you are on Soi 6. Hop in the car and go when you are up on the fourth floor. Get straight down to fucking when you get a chick from Beach Road.I happen to like having someone waiting for me when I arrive at BKK. I can afford to pay 1500 - 1600 TBH. I am happy to pay it. The service I use is consistent and vetted and I have used them to transport me to Bangkok when I have had important pressing business. Something that many others do that I will not do is talk about anyone else's choices. Every man up in here is allowed to spend their money how they choose and fuck who they want.
Although I am surprised that you did not mention there is a bus you can take that goes directly from the airport to a station next to Food Mart in Jomtien. 350 THB. I have taken it before. Comfortable ride. What I value most is individuals who share information on the options to have sex with girls here in Pattaya. I remain uncertain as to what critics get out of being critical. Especial when some takes the time to write a good report.
Explorer8939
05-30-24, 14:27
Thank you for stating things with true clarity.
I am interested in hearing your opinion of why you think they are on beach road?Some of them have a day job. When they finish work, they go to Beach Road to make 1,000 baht before heading home to see their husband.
Right now, I'm in Pattaya for 1 week already and I confirm nobody use condoms now in Pattaya! Everyday I fuck 1 lady or sometimes 2, in Soi 6 or in bars in Soy Bukaho or in sex massages and ladies always let me fuck them bareback! 15 years I go Pattaya, most of the ladies know me I've great time with them and their friends and they never asked me to put a condom. Only few girls ask me to put a condom in order to get more money. Usually I give 500 bahts more and they always say yes for bareback!
Only 1 time a girl I know very well in Soi 6 was little bit jealous I fuck her friend in the same bar when she had a day off and she was little bit angry because her friend told her I fuck her bareback too. But finally after 2 drinks a another tip, we go in the room upstairs, we took again the shower together and she let me fuck her bareback again.
Some ladies told me in Pattaya, nowdays, all men want fuck bareback!
Some guys won't go with girls even if wearing a condom because they know they have barebacked many guys. That's why I mentioned either with or without a condom. Some guys actually believe when girls tell them they don't go with many customers or believe when they say they have only gone BB with them and no other customers. The point is that if you are paranoid about the ladies not using condoms with customers before you then Pattaya is not there place for you.
EverythingThai
05-30-24, 16:24
Oh my Buddha, you are very afraid.
- Customers also complain about bar girls (I did a few times).
- Bar girls can be sick too. There is no medical check in bars.
- There are girls addicted to Jabba or Weed in every third or fourth bar (own experience).
- Minors work in every fourth or fifth bar (own experience).
- Bar girls don't steal? LOL.
Most of the girls on the beach are there because they simply don't have time to work at the bar from 6 pm to 3 am every day. Maybe because they have another job, maybe because they have a family or children, etc. They don't stand there every day but only when money is tight.If you lived here full time for moire than a few weeks I would hold some weight it what you say. However, I don't think you have any experience at all. Everything you say they come to be beach road to do can be achieved on Thai Friendly. I know Thai culture after 15 years in Thailand straight. I know that if a Thai girl goes onto the street, they are desperate. Why? Because it's not discrete at all. Yes, some bar girls steal too, but they know after the first time getting caught it's too dangerous. Why? Because the bar knows who they really are and the customer can go back to them. You hear more about guys getting ripped off from girls they meet on the street than with girls working in a bar or even a freelancer from an app. About the girls working on the street because they don't have the time? Hogwash. They can easily chat with guys on an app and meet after work. They don't have to work on the street for this reason. About being sick, if they visually look sick, the bar will question them and send them home for looking like shit. I have seen some pretty rough looking beach road girls. These beach road girls are also the ones that may agree to go with one ethnic group that will remain nameless that likes to offer 1000ST but for two guys and not one. Do you know any Thai girls that will willingly fuck 2 guys for 500 Baht ST each one after another in the same room that are not desperate? I don't.
With all due respect, you are completely wrong.
Banana Boi
05-30-24, 16:50
if I was on vacation here in Pattaya I would chose to stay central Pattaya. The travel time annoys me. I do not recommend Jomtien to 1st time visitors. Come check it out. But stay in the heard of the action for your first trip.Agree 100% Why would a first time visitor stay in Jomtien on a first visit to Pattaya? Stay in the heart of the action. Now if this was my 5th trip, I wanted to try something a bit different, and I rented a motorbike would I consider Jomtien. I personally enjoy Jomtien but to spend a few hours in the afternoon there not to stay there.
I stayed in Jomtien 2 weeks ago and the one way system on beach road makes getting about very difficult.Unless you live in Thailand or go on a trip to Pattaya area for at least a month, it makes no sense to stay in Jomtien. If you don't like the grind and traffic, stay right outside the central area where you can still easily access the baht bus or quick Bolt ride.
For me staying central is nice and convenient because I can walk everywhere and go back and forth from my room all day. I take multiple showers a day because it's so hot there so that's another positive.
Right now, I'm in Pattaya for 1 week already and I confirm nobody use condoms now in Pattaya! Everyday I fuck 1 lady or sometimes 2, in Soi 6 or in bars in Soy Bukaho or in sex massages and ladies always let me fuck them bareback! 15 years I go Pattaya, most of the ladies know me I've great time with them and their friends and they never asked me to put a condom. Only few girls ask me to put a condom in order to get more money. Usually I give 500 bahts more and they always say yes for bareback!
Only 1 time a girl I know very well in Soi 6 was little bit jealous I fuck her friend in the same bar when she had a day off and she was little bit angry because her friend told her I fuck her bareback too. But finally after 2 drinks a another tip, we go in the room upstairs, we took again the shower together and she let me fuck her bareback again.
Some ladies told me in Pattaya, nowdays, all men want fuck bareback!Sounds like my kind of place.
Pros and cons. Convenience has a cost. If you want to drop some shopping bags off at your place, take a comfortable shit, or just go in to cool off a few minutes, 5 minutes round trip versus the over thirty for staying in Jomtien.
As far as cost of living, you definitely get more bang for your buck in Jomtien or the darkside, but if you are coming for holiday is a different animal. If I am going to New York City for holiday, would you recommend staying 20 minutes away in Hoboken, New Jersey because it is quieter and less busy?Nope if you are going on holiday to almost any city stay in the heart of it. You've paid for a City break. You want to see all the sights of the city, be able to wake up go for a stroll and feel the atmosphere of that City. Going to Pattaya / Jomtien could not be more different. At least 99% of those in this forum reading this will be going there for the mongering. But it's almost everywhere on the doorstep! My first 5 trips to Pattaya I stayed in town. Wave hotel on Beach Road, Hilton ditto, Somerset 2nd Road, Siam Siam to be close to Soi 6. Didn't much like any of them. Maybe Wave was decent due to its quirkiness and the rooftop pool at Hilton is nice though its gym is awfully small. Siam is tired and old but it's not really the point. My point is that the traffic has become intolerable in Pattaya. You talk of 5 minutes round trip. Not in any taxi it aint! I was advised by many "you don't want to stay out of the action", well, sorry, not correct. I won't list the positives of Jomtien over Pattaya as this would become a short essay. It's just cleaner, prettier, better beach, lovely coffee shops on Pratumnak Hill, better restaurants. And it's often 10 minutes away max on a bike or at the very worst 15 in a Bolt costing peanuts. Pattaya is not relaxing. It's mayhem. Great for a night out, fabulous if you are down at Wongamat Beach or beyond, but anywhere central is fine if you are young enough to monger morning, noon, afternoon, evening and night. For anyone over 45, my strong advice is stay on the fringe (and that's what Pratumnak / Jomtien are) - everything is on hand, you'll miss nothing and the transportation is quick and very cheap.
EverythingThai
05-31-24, 03:08
Some of them have a day job. When they finish work, they go to Beach Road to make 1,000 baht before heading home to see their husband.They can just as easily arrange a quick ST on Thai Friendly as well. I will never go with a lady on beach road.
Mr Enternational
05-31-24, 08:06
They can just as easily arrange a quick ST on Thai Friendly as well. I will never go with a lady on beach road.They can do both as I earlier pointed out. The same as chicks in gogos, bars, massage parlors, salons arrange things on Thai Friendly. Nobody is forcing or even suggest you go with them. People are saying that just because you would not go with them is no reason to spread a false narrative about them. The people here with the least experience want to talk like they have the most. No way I am telling people a mile long list of the bad things about being in space when I have never been there. But people here that have never been around a chick from Beach Road know so much about them. Ridiculous.
Sounds like my kind of place.Sounds more like a wishfull thinking, while I get it from some girls (when I push for it), some others make it very clear they prioritize their safety first and don't want to deal with unprotected sex.
They can just as easily arrange a quick ST on Thai Friendly as well. I will never go with a lady on beach road.Yes. And the lady from Thai Friendly is of course not sick, not underage, not addicted to drugs and of course she doesn't steal either. LOL.
Everyone has their own business model and lives according to it, depending on their life circumstances.
Why do you condemn the ladies on the beach so vehemently and accuse them of being sick or addicted or whatever?
Some ladies prefer bars, others agogos, some prefer Thai Friendly or the beach. To each his own.
Can you tell me the positives of Jomtien. I am not 45 but I don't like crazy busy. I like to relax as much as possible.
Nope if you are going on holiday to almost any city stay in the heart of it. You've paid for a City break. You want to see all the sights of the city, be able to wake up go for a stroll and feel the atmosphere of that City. Going to Pattaya / Jomtien could not be more different. At least 99% of those in this forum reading this will be going there for the mongering. But it's almost everywhere on the doorstep! My first 5 trips to Pattaya I stayed in town. Wave hotel on Beach Road, Hilton ditto, Somerset 2nd Road, Siam Siam to be close to Soi 6. Didn't much like any of them. Maybe Wave was decent due to its quirkiness and the rooftop pool at Hilton is nice though its gym is awfully small. Siam is tired and old but it's not really the point. My point is that the traffic has become intolerable in Pattaya. You talk of 5 minutes round trip. Not in any taxi it aint! I was advised by many "you don't want to stay out of the action", well, sorry, not correct. I won't list the positives of Jomtien over Pattaya as this would become a short essay. It's just cleaner, prettier, better beach, lovely coffee shops on Pratumnak Hill, better restaurants. And it's often 10 minutes away max on a bike or at the very worst 15 in a Bolt costing peanuts. Pattaya is not relaxing. It's mayhem. Great for a night out, fabulous if you are down at Wongamat Beach or beyond, but anywhere central is fine if you are young enough to monger morning, noon, afternoon, evening and night. For anyone over 45, my strong advice is stay on the fringe (and that's what Pratumnak / Jomtien are) - everything is on hand, you'll miss nothing and the transportation is quick and very cheap.
Yes. And the lady from Thai Friendly is of course not sick, not underage, not addicted to drugs and of course she doesn't steal either. LOL.
Everyone has their own business model and lives according to it, depending on their life circumstances.
Why do you condemn the ladies on the beach so vehemently and accuse them of being sick or addicted or whatever?
Some ladies prefer bars, others agogos, some prefer Thai Friendly or the beach. To each his own.And of course they have never been in beach road. They all come from Hi-So, indulge on TF for the fun of it, as they are bored, and demand a payment to show they are not for cheap Charlie's ad they have a value, LOL.
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Can you tell me the positives of Jomtien. I am not 45 but I don't like crazy busy. I like to relax as much as possible.Less air pollution. Hotel or condo likely to be better value for money. Riding a motorbike less risky than in Pattaya.
Explorer8939
05-31-24, 16:23
Less air pollution. Hotel or condo likely to be better value for money. Riding a motorbike less risky than in Pattaya.The baht bus to Pattaya is only 20 baht, and runs all the time.
Explorer8939
05-31-24, 16:25
Sounds more like a wishfull thinking, while I get it from some girls (when I push for it), some others make it very clear they prioritize their safety first and don't want to deal with unprotected sex.If a lady is high volume, I always use a condom.
On the other hand, I may go without for a low volume freelancer.
I suspect one lady is looking for a Baby Daddy when she goes with me.
EverythingThai
05-31-24, 17:35
Yes. And the lady from Thai Friendly is of course not sick, not underage, not addicted to drugs and of course she doesn't steal either. LOL.
Everyone has their own business model and lives according to it, depending on their life circumstances.
Why do you condemn the ladies on the beach so vehemently and accuse them of being sick or addicted or whatever?
Some ladies prefer bars, others agogos, some prefer Thai Friendly or the beach. To each his own.Because of the many examples of this I see. And for the record, I can't remember the last time I heard something similar happening to a hunter with a bar girl or TF girl.
EverythingThai
05-31-24, 17:40
They can do both as I earlier pointed out. The same as chicks in gogos, bars, massage parlors, salons arrange things on Thai Friendly. Nobody is forcing or even suggest you go with them. People are saying that just because you would not go with them is no reason to spread a false narrative about them. The people here with the least experience want to talk like they have the most. No way I am telling people a mile long list of the bad things about being in space when I have never been there. But people here that have never been around a chick from Beach Road know so much about them. Ridiculous.In my job, I have dealt with a lot of punters who have been ripped by girls on beach road. I very rarely have dealt with guys being ripped off by bar girls or TYF girls. Thats how I know and that's why I have never gone with them and never will. They look disgusting most of the time as well.
EverythingThai
05-31-24, 17:43
Please don't tell me some members who think they know it all don't know why girls are on Beach Road without telling me they don't.
DESPERATE is a good word.
What girl wants to be surrounded by Ramish, Mohish, and Curlhis in negotiations. To the laymen the Customers that go to Beach Road are the Worstest of the Worst.Now this guy knows what he is talking about.
EverythingThai
05-31-24, 17:43
Sounds more like a wishfull thinking, while I get it from some girls (when I push for it), some others make it very clear they prioritize their safety first and don't want to deal with unprotected sex.It's not wishful thinking at all. Its a fact.
It's not wishful thinking at all. Its a fact.So you confirm as fact Gilolo's statement that nobody in Pattaya uses condoms anymore and on the rare occasion where a girl might ask you to wear one a 500 baht tip is usually all it takes for them to agree to BBFS+CIP?
Sounds great. I might need to get down there for a few nights every now and then.
Every girl no matter how hot and for any customer since, after all, it is the norm, right? And, just to be sure, we are talking about every one of those 1,500 baht Soi 6 girls, no exceptions, the 3,000 - 5,000 baht super stars in the top Walking Street gogo bars, the cuties working at Swensen's and in Central Festival, every girl, right?
Gilolo posted:
I confirm nobody use condoms now in Pattaya! Everyday I fuck 1 lady or sometimes 2, in Soi 6 or in bars in Soy Bukaho or in sex massages and ladies always let me fuck them bareback! 15 years I go Pattaya, most of the ladies know me I've great time with them and their friends and they never asked me to put a condom. Only few girls ask me to put a condom in order to get more money. Usually I give 500 bahts more and they always say yes for bareback!
Banana Boi
06-01-24, 00:59
Now this guy knows what he is talking about.You're agreeing with Raj Patela, Danny Duck, 40 drinks and all the other names he's had?
100% BBFS from every single Pattaya girl. Why doesn't ET move to Pattaya if this is the case. I can believe a guy can get 100% BBFS in any SEA country. The bigger question is if you are pulling the top looking girls. You'd be my hero is you were able to pull off BBFS from all the top Palace and Pin Up gogo girls pre-COVID.
UglyAzzMan
06-01-24, 02:42
Some of them have a day job. When they finish work, they go to Beach Road to make 1,000 baht before heading home to see their husband.1. This is Blatantly False. They Hook on Beach Road because they are unEmployable.
2. Please be respectful if you have Fallen on hard time please don't ask for Discount. If you like Shopping in South Central LA, Pattaya style same same. Pay 1 k Bro.
Sounds more like a wishfull thinking, while I get it from some girls (when I push for it), some others make it very clear they prioritize their safety first and don't want to deal with unprotected sex.Well I will see when I get there and report back. I'll be in Pattaya and then afterwards in Jakarta and I will be reporting my experiences from the different girls I find at different venues and whether I get BBFS or not.
I'm doing as much RTFF, YouTube videos, and other research until I get there and in Pattaya I have a wingman who lives there and has first hand boots on the ground expertise.
So we shall see if I get BBFS or not (and best believe I'll be pushing for it). And I'll be weeding out the ones who don't provide the services I'm looking for. So be on the look out for my reports.
Gabacho Out.
It is currently low season. This is the perfect time to negotiate and low ball. I am being told that economic times are tough in Thailand right now. The expansion of the visa programs stem from a direct desire to increase revenue from tourists. Rich people shop at Walmart. Just saw an article about them seeing an influx of higher income customers in their stores. I makes sense to keep your expenses low on an average basis. Nobody tries to pay more for a service than they have to pay for.
Also pussy has a price scale. It is based on age, attractiveness and the venue where you choose to rent your pussy. I don't pay a whole lot of attention to age up to a certain point because the girls I have seen here age so well. But if I am on Thai Friendly and a girl in her 40's asks me for 2000 THB I pass. Pussy can be had for 500 - 800 THB. I respectfully submit that I don't give a fuck about what anyone thinks about my price point. My time, my dick, my money, my call. I am not going to talk shit about guy who buys 40 LDs. If they like it then I love it! Does not mean I am going to do it.
1. This is Blatantly False. They Hook on Beach Road because they are unEmployable.This is your opinion. You do not know the status of every girl standing out on Beach Road. FACT!
2. Please be respectful if you have Fallen on hard time please don't ask for Discount. If you like Shopping in South Central LA, Pattaya style same same. Pay 1 k Bro.Have you even been to South Central, LOS Angeles? Or you just watched Boys in the Hood one time and it made an impression of you? Do you have a problem shopping at WalMart? There is one located at: 2100 and Long Beach Blvd, Compton, CA 90221, United States.
I'm not hating if you like to shop at high end stores or rent high end pussy. But can you at least secure your stereotypical generalizations about those who choose not to? Now my desire to get value from my money does not mean I am not willing to spend it on what I want. I'll drop 400 USD for a couple of tennis racquets, 150 USD on a putter or 500 - 700 for a Montblanc high quality writing instrument. It is not a pen at that price point. Paying 5000 THB to rent some pussy plus 1500 THB bar fine, SHIT only seen two girls my entire time in Pattaya that would have been worth it to me.
EverythingThai
06-01-24, 05:00
So you confirm as fact Gilolo's statement that nobody in Pattaya uses condoms anymore and on the rare occasion where a girl might ask you to wear one a 500 baht tip is usually all it takes for them to agree to BBFS+CIP?
Sounds great. I might need to get down there for a few nights every now and then.
Every girl no matter how hot and for any customer since, after all, it is the norm, right? And, just to be sure, we are talking about every one of those 1,500 baht Soi 6 girls, no exceptions, the 3,000 - 5,000 baht super stars in the top Walking Street gogo bars, the cuties working at Swensen's and in Central Festival, every girl, right?
Gilolo posted:The only thing that may vary is the amount of the tip it will take, but more often than not, after a fun night drinking at the bar with her, you will get it without even asking.
EverythingThai
06-01-24, 05:02
You're agreeing with Raj Patela, Danny Duck, 40 drinks and all the other names he's had?
100% BBFS from every single Pattaya girl. Why doesn't ET move to Pattaya if this is the case. I can believe a guy can get 100% BBFS in any SEA country. The bigger question is if you are pulling the top looking girls. You'd be my hero is you were able to pull off BBFS from all the top Palace and Pin Up gogo girls pre-COVID.No matter who he is, I agreed with him on this. Beach road girls are not there because they want to be, they are there because they have no choice. I guess you just conveniently ignored the post with evidence below on this point.
I have continually got BBFSCIP with every go go girl I have been with. It may require a tip and it may be over 500 Baht, but I get it. I pay whatever it takes to get what I want if needed. Sometimes it's not needed.
EverythingThai
06-01-24, 05:03
Why doesn't ET move to Pattaya if this is the case. How can I move to Pattaya when I already live here LOL. I have condos in Bangkok, Pattaya, and Hua Hin.
The only thing that may vary is the amount of the tip it will take, but more often than not, after a fun night drinking at the bar with her, you will get it without even asking.But isn't that true of practically everyone on the planet? Keep raising the offer and eventually you will find their price.
Let me guess, we can expect that eventual price to be arrived at much, much sooner and much, much lower for 45 year old 4's on Beach Road and on Soi 6 and much, much later and much, much higher for 22 year old 9's in the top Walking Street gogo bars. LOL.
LittleBigMan
06-01-24, 07:34
How can I move to Pattaya when I already live here LOL. I have condos in Bangkok, Pattaya, and Hua Hin.He isn't referring to you but ET, which is Ed Tooms.
Banana Boi
06-01-24, 07:39
How can I move to Pattaya when I already live here LOL. I have condos in Bangkok, Pattaya, and Hua Hin.Oh that's funny when I said ET I meant EihTooms cause he's the BBFS or bust guy. It was only by coincidence your name would also be ET.
LittleBigMan
06-01-24, 08:21
There is a right or a wrong when it comes to Beach Road, Word used " Choice " yes it is a choice! We are all talking in general. I'm not a Beach road participant but have done the walk a few times for entertainment. Like all of you seen the Indian in packs, seen the Ladyboys, then the ones standing in the dark from afar oh nice legs, body, up closer take a look bye bye. It has been near twenty years since I've done the walk a good friend once told me he picked one up and she recommended P.S. Room on 13/? He told me the paper towels used for floor mats I'm not picky but that was enough for me.
One of the good habits I have coming from the darkside is waiting at the signal light on Sukhumvit / Pattaya Klang girl gets my attention I follow to where they work, GoGo, Bars, GC, even a few going to beach road. Those who I followed hooked up with converse let them know I also live on the Darkside in the old days this was good way hooking up at my place without any BF if applicable.
Those from Beach road take them up the road behind Big C, to a nicer room. Those that I have taken when hearing their life they aren't all because they have zero choice it is just one of them creative choices isn't one of Thais stronger areas they follow others. Reason you go to a Thai outdoor market everyone is selling the same stuff they follow and copy. When people talk about another job, dig deep if one really knows the education system and job market when do they have time to work a regular job and go to beach road. Jobs here if you are young 6 days a week, 10-12 hours a day for minimum wage.
Sure there are one's in everyone of the category we talked about but the few I've had care for their kids, get up take them to school later pick them up, In between do some freelancing on the internet, after dinner their kid is put to bed, they have a friend or neighbor next room watch their kid if the kid is old enough a phone is given if there is a problem call! Mean while they head down Beach Road for a few hours hoping to at least make one score. Lucky me prior to Covid I had two regulars like this on my list for a long time that ended when covid hit they move back to their farm never came back. Choices are limited whether they gamble, on drugs, have kids limit time, the reason as some noted freedom to come and go, no contract.
I've seen girls who wouldn't even converse to Indians on Beach Road because of their reputation like Mr. E, said there are girls who do their tour early evening do walks on Beach Road to about Mikes and back down to W. S. Later in the evening when W. S. Started to get busy they they head down near the entrance of Happy today around P72, Beach road they ask a 1000, WS same girl 1500 up.
Mr. E, would tell you the desperate no choice was behind Bali Hide " The Bush " LOL.
Like price I say to each his own when it comes to Condom the same to me. Has it happened sure without but main choice is with, so if a girl say to me " got a condom " what category would that be in choice or you go to ST, room on WS, part of paying for room the girl gets a condom, go to GC, like Kinnarree, once in room the girl puts the condom on bed, does these fall into the category " required condom? If you see but mentioned I pay you more is that another category you were basically ask to use one but a good tip changes things category if that is the case " every " personally I've never ask to pay more it hasn't been a priority.
If one is saying every girl in Pattaya go without a condom if that is your experience and I'm not calling you a liar from your experience, if you have even bypass the no with paying you extra more power to each of you but why does it have to be a endless debate. Can we say to each his own and truly mean it.
I've experience this a few times when you get to my age I've not concern with a 10, I can easily pay for a 10 I taken 10 and girls of all shape and sizes, but the older ones especially the ones that had their tubes tied or finish their M cycle but take care of their bodies, seem to be the ones offering me at least no condom caught me off guard a few times. A regular GoGo who got her tubes tie told me if I get checked regularly no condom for me so once unable to finish she pull it off. A month later we were talking she told me she hasn't gotten her period conversation lead to go get checked I'm not tube tying expert meantime waiting for her call back I went and got my 9 MM, ready for the bad news.
When she did call good news she said laughing I just got my period. Still hook up but not letting that conversation come up again.
Whether to go with or without like price it is ones choice does it really have to be a drag through the mud??
ThatGuy101
06-01-24, 10:07
Just Extended my stay touching down in 16 days hearing a lot about the beach etc but what I want to hear from the OG and regular in Payatta is what so do you recommend? I heard a lot of people online (saying soi 6) is over hyped but that's where most of the action is but I want to hear everyone opinions where do you like to go find a chick and chill? So 7/8 other places? Or just soi 6 tell me your favourite spots I want to check them out! Everyone got their own opinion so don't go after someone for what they like everyone taste is different which is fine. so let's hear them let's change the topic of the beach scene to your favourite bars to where you like to get action and meeting chicks boots on the ground no TF.. or beach stuff think we've discussed that a lot ahaha all love from Canada! All recommendations welcome and appreciated
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06-01-24, 10:43
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Just Extended my stay touching down in 16 days hearing a lot about the beach etc but what I want to hear from the OG and regular in Payatta is what so do you recommend? I heard a lot of people online (saying soi 6) is over hyped but that's where most of the action is but I want to hear everyone opinions where do you like to go find a chick and chill? So 7/8 other places? Or just soi 6 tell me your favourite spots I want to check them out! Everyone got their own opinion so don't go after someone for what they like everyone taste is different which is fine. so let's hear them let's change the topic of the beach scene to your favourite bars to where you like to get action and meeting chicks boots on the ground no TF.. or beach stuff think we've discussed that a lot ahaha all love from Canada! All recommendations welcome and appreciatedThere are over 40,000 comments on what happens in Pattaya.
As YMMV after you read at least the last 20 pages and get a general feeling, the best is you hit the roads (all) and see what makes you more comfortable.
And then let us know your findings and feelings.
So let's hear them let's change the topic of the beach scene to your favourite bars to where you like to get action and meeting chicks boots on the ground no TF.. or beach stuff think we've discussed that a lot ahaha all love from Canada! All recommendations welcome and appreciatedLots of posts that cover these areas. Many of them very recently. You simply have to read the forum or use the search function.
How can you get pussy in Pattaya?
Let us count the ways.
Beach Road 2. Thai Friendly 3. AGoGos 4. Beer Bars 5. Blow Job Bars 6. Soapie massage places 7. Regular massage places 8. Gentleman's clubs 9. Cold approaches (requires language skills and game).
Tell us when you are planning to visit. We are looking forward to your trip reports. You are going to visit and file a trip reports? Don't be that guy. LOL!
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