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RamDavidson84
08-25-24, 10:54
Saw a decent scrap on Soi 6 last night. Place is a shit show. Looked like an American vs a Brit.
Banana Boi
08-25-24, 15:10
Ban Chang is the training area for ladies new to the biz.Let me clarify for the newbies before they start making side trips. "new to the biz" doesn't mean it's full of young hot 18 year olds.
MarquisdeSade1
08-25-24, 19:38
Maybe you would have a point if this was not Thailand, where the government is the main entity of dual-pricing and ripoffs. Foreigners are charged exorbitantly more than Thais at national parks and attractions. Taxi drivers, vendors, and condo sellers are not in charge of those prices. The government that just told you it is wrong to rip foreigners off is in the business of ripping foreigners off.
There was also a bill in progress that foreigners should be charged 300 baht when entering the country. I am in a facebook group about dual pricing in Thailand. Here is a picture of article from 4 years ago when the government said we must let expats pay the same price as citizens since they live here too. Since that article in 2020, it has been crickets on that matter.There are museums around the world that charge different prices, I think that is fair, why? Because it is based on taxes, locals pay taxes to build and maintain them, that is their entry fee.
It is not based on race or nationality.
You are trying to mix apples and onions again but go figure.
Just like BB wrote they are doing it Japan now, why? The yen is "low", so its getting flooded with people trying to help their economy and have more value for their USD or euro.
How does Japan show their appreciation? Racist price gouging.
Its Asia go figure, the land of Hitler Nazi weddings.
This smells like BS from someone in Mods bar. As far as I know in all the westerner owned bars in Soi 6 there is no such thing as drinks before BF.
When something like this happens ask to talk to a boss / supervisor, most of these bars on the right hand side have one.I don't have proof. But I think it's the Thai mamasan at Mod's instructing the girls to sell at least ten lady drinks every night.
The three bars on that end (Mod's, Omega, and 3 Angels) do not have an expat manager. There is no need for one.
Like I said before, all the customers are Asian. At least 99%. They don't seem to have an Asian manager either.
I just need someone else to go to Mod's and inquire about their barfine fees.
Explorer8939
08-26-24, 05:03
Let me clarify for the newbies before they start making side trips. "new to the biz" doesn't mean it's full of young hot 18 year olds.The last I went, there were young spinners in the bars.
Let me clarify for the newbies before they start making side trips. "new to the biz" doesn't mean it's full of young hot 18 year olds.I will cancel my Grab.
Hello dear Friends.
I will be visiting pattaya next week. I want to enjoy fun night with WG from CIS.
Help me regarding where I can find them and charges.
TIA.
Viv.
Intrepid123
08-26-24, 08:12
I don't have proof. But I think it's the Thai mamasan at Mod's instructing the girls to sell at least ten lady drinks every night.
The three bars on that end (Mod's, Omega, and 3 Angels) do not have an expat manager. There is no need for one.
Like I said before, all the customers are Asian. At least 99%. They don't seem to have an Asian manager either.
I just need someone else to go to Mod's and inquire about their barfine fees.I mean you can request to talk to someone above the mamasan, there are a few people that roam the bars to fix these problems. I bet they wouldn't be happy with that.
The same for other bar groups (for example the one from Cooters, Lalaland, Wetsix etc).
EverythingThai
08-26-24, 13:58
How much is the barfine at Mod's Bar in Soi 6?
I asked them. They said 3,000 Baht early plus 10 lady drinks.
1,500 Baht barfine at 9 pm plus whatever remaining drinks from the quota of 10.
So if you went at 9 pm and the girl has had 4 drinks from someone else, then you will have to buy her 6 lady drinks plus 1,500 Baht barfine fee.
Does any of this sound right?
I went to Flirt. They said 1,500 Baht barfine at 10 pm (They open an hour later at 4 pm.) No need to buy drinks. But one or two drinks would be appreciated.Aom is my good friend. The cashier / moma son of Modis bar. All the soi 6 bars in the night wish group do not have a minimum drink quota to buy the girls if you want to fuck them. Go to the ST room upstairs with no issues. 1500-2000ST plus room. If you are a handsome man, you can maybe get for 1000 with certain ladies but difficult. Long time is a different story. I don't care what anyone tells you from the board, but Long time BF at all nightwish bar on Soi 6 is 2000-2500 Baht starting from when the bar opens at 3-4 PM. The bar fine slowly drops in price until the bar closes. Every bar will slightly modify this depending on many factors. Then there is the girls's fee. Ranging from 2500 LT up. Now about mandatory drinks needing to be bought for the girl to bar fine her long time. The girl is not obligated to go with any customer LT or ST. Therefore, if they decide they want you to buy a few drinks before going LT, there is nothing you can do about it. Either do it or don't. Just realize that you will not be looked upon as a good customer if you walk in and buy one lady drink and then try to bar fine the girl LT.
I know it sucks, but if the bar does make these subtle regulations, some bars would have no girls after 9 PM, and the bar would make very little money and would close down. Then where would you go? Think about it. If you buy 1 beer at say 80-100 Baht. Then you buy one lady drink at 160 Baht. Then you bar fine the girl for lets say 500-700 Baht and take the girl out of the bar, she does not make her drink quota, her salary is reduced for her 10 day contract and the bar closes. Why? Because they pay the girl's reduced salary, and get only 1 customer drink, one lady drink, and a small bar fine with maybe 2/10 customers who bar fine. This business model won't work. The bar will be closed faster than my next bar fine will say " Cum inside me" lol.
Now, I will get the comments" You must be a bar owner" ".
"Why do you take the side of the bar owner?
I say this to those board members "so what". I don't care what you think. We are just talking simple math here and simple business sense.
My advice to anyone who complains about a bar fine being too expensive, complains about buying lady drinks and drink queens, or complains about the ST or LT fees from girls working in a bar or go go, you should just stop going to the bars and clubs. There are beach road girls, Freelancers on TF and Tinder, gents clubs, plus cheap beer bars. Just stop going to Soi 6, walking street, and LK metro and so on. Pattaya has many options for different budgets.
The problem is guys look on line and see the photos of the girls working on Soi 6 for example, fall in love with their photos, then come on these message boards and forums and get info on pricing. However, that info on pricing turns out to not be accurate. Why? Because the poster posts what he is willing to pay and passes that off as what the going rates actually are. That is creating false expectations on price for everyone else. Then you have the old timers who won't pay the new pricing no matter what. The price needs to be the same as it was 10 years ago. When you say the word inflation, you get them claiming g there is no such thing in Pattaya and everything is even cheaper than it was 10 years ago today. Thats a whole other topic of its own so I better not keep on this or Mr. E or Explorer will have a fit lol.
Conclusion. If you don't like the prices at a bar, just leave and don't go back. There are plenty of other options. For example, head to WS at 2 AM. You will find FLs in 808 that you can take for 2000-2500 LT and many are just coming off shift from soi 6 and go looking for customers.No bar fine and no lady drinks. End of story.
Intrepid123
08-26-24, 18:37
One thing I noticed in Pattaya, especially the expat community: they love to complain about the current state of Soi 6 - loud, shit music, more expensive, no privacy, picky ladies, drink mercenaries, barfine prices.
However, there are places (gentlemen clubs) that are exactly the opposite: good music, not too loud, cheaper, closed doors, very friendly ladies, often with a single drink you get to touch / see / finger. And these places are EMPTY. Almost every time I am one of 2-3 customers, sometimes I'm the only one. I enjoy that privacy and naughtiness, but obviously these places can't compete with Soi 6 in quality / quantity of ladies. Actually being this empty I'm surprised they can keep the few ladies that are there.
I can have good fun in both types of places, but I fail to understand why all the veteran whiners simply don't support the venues that try to keep it the old way.
I have a great time going to agogos and Soi 6 without ever bar fining a girl. I find ladies drinks to be inexpensive fun when a girl is grinding on your naked for hours on end. I do not need someone to tell me what I should and not be doing. Or how I should be enjoying myself at the venues I choose to frequentIf I do not like the prices in a venue I simply do not partake in the sexual offerings. I once got clowned up in here when I said "if I go out to have fun I do not pay attention to drink prices because I want to enjoy myself. ". I think the levels of some bar fines are excessive. But even so, sometime the chemistry I share with the girls up in the venue almost makes me want to pay it. But the sobering reality is that Pussy is Pussy and that once we get wherever in order to enjoy things sexually the chemistry may wear off or not be there anymore.
I have only bar fined once girl out of beer bar on Soi Treetop. We had an agreement for two times, but I get I wore her out. So after the shower I thought we were going for round two but she came out in her clothes and told me she was leaving. I told her I was only going to give her half and she agreed. She then asked for money for a taxi. Get the fuck out of here * I don't care if you have to walk home. Encounter was great over all. I had a drink with her before we left the bar. Everything was good. It was late and if I wanted to kill an hour I could have even saved the bar fine, but I wanted fuck now so I paid it.
If I listed to what some advocate about how others should conduct their affairs I would have missed out on some really good times. 90% of the time I goto Windmill I do not bar fine a girl. But EVERYTIME I go and I do mean EVERY MOTHER FUCKING TIME I have great time. I am talking off the mother fucking chain!
My advice to everyone is to do you. Explore and experience and come back here and report about it. Good bad or indifferent. Please we need more solid reporting not less. Anyone who gets their ox gored because someone does not like their favorite place needs to just man up and realize not everyone is going to like what you like or do what you do.
I find the Bus Bar to be an outstanding experience for the money. If someone goes and does not like it, then reports that they did not like it, I will not be up here telling them that should not be speaking negatively of the Bus Bar. Nor trying to justify why I like it. I like it because of well reasons.
This is the Pattaya Reports thread not the night ass bar group support thread.
Mosquito2002
08-27-24, 02:31
Aom is my good friend. The cashier / moma son of Modis bar. All the soi 6 bars in the night wish group do not have a minimum drink quota to buy the girls if you want to fuck them. Go to the ST room upstairs with no issues. 1500-2000ST plus room. If you are a handsome man, you can maybe get for 1000 with certain ladies but difficult. Long time is a different story. I don't care what anyone tells you from the board, but Long time BF at all nightwish bar on Soi 6 is 2000-2500 Baht starting from when the bar opens at 3-4 PM. The bar fine slowly drops in price until the bar closes. Every bar will slightly modify this depending on many factors. Then there is the girls's fee. Ranging from 2500 LT up. Now about mandatory drinks needing to be bought for the girl to bar fine her long time. The girl is not obligated to go with any customer LT or ST. Therefore, if they decide they want you to buy a few drinks before going LT, there is nothing you can do about it. Either do it or don't. Just realize that you will not be looked upon as a good customer if you walk in and buy one lady drink and then try to bar fine the girl LT.
I know it sucks, but if the bar does make these subtle regulations, some bars would have no girls after 9 PM, and the bar would make very little money and would close down. Then where would you go? Think about it. If you buy 1 beer at say 80-100 Baht. Then you buy one lady drink at 160 Baht. Then you bar fine the girl for lets say 500-700 Baht and take the girl out of the bar, she does not make her drink quota, her salary is reduced for her 10 day contract and the bar closes. Why? Because they pay the girl's reduced salary, and get only 1 customer drink, one lady drink, and a small bar fine with maybe 2/10 customers who bar fine. This business model won't work. The bar will be closed faster than my next bar fine will say " Cum inside me" lol.
Now, I will get the comments" You must be a bar owner" ".
"Why do you take the side of the bar owner?
I say this to those board members "so what". I don't care what you think. We are just talking simple math here and simple business sense.
My advice to anyone who complains about a bar fine being too expensive, complains about buying lady drinks and drink queens, or complains about the ST or LT fees from girls working in a bar or go go, you should just stop going to the bars and clubs. There are beach road girls, Freelancers on TF and Tinder, gents clubs, plus cheap beer bars. Just stop going to Soi 6, walking street, and LK metro and so on. Pattaya has many options for different budgets.
The problem is guys look on line and see the photos of the girls working on Soi 6 for example, fall in love with their photos, then come on these message boards and forums and get info on pricing. However, that info on pricing turns out to not be accurate. Why? Because the poster posts what he is willing to pay and passes that off as what the going rates actually are. That is creating false expectations on price for everyone else. Then you have the old timers who won't pay the new pricing no matter what. The price needs to be the same as it was 10 years ago. When you say the word inflation, you get them claiming g there is no such thing in Pattaya and everything is even cheaper than it was 10 years ago today. Thats a whole other topic of its own so I better not keep on this or Mr. E or Explorer will have a fit lol.
Conclusion. If you don't like the prices at a bar, just leave and don't go back. There are plenty of other options. For example, head to WS at 2 AM. You will find FLs in 808 that you can take for 2000-2500 LT and many are just coming off shift from soi 6 and go looking for customers.No bar fine and no lady drinks. End of story.Thanks for the clarification. Concur with if you don't like the prices. Go else where. Lots and lots of fresh or at least alive fish to fry in Pattaya.
LittleBigMan
08-27-24, 03:31
One thing I noticed in Pattaya, especially the expat community: they love to complain about the current state of Soi 6 - loud, shit music, more expensive, no privacy, picky ladies, drink mercenaries, barfine prices.
However, there are places (gentlemen clubs) that are exactly the opposite: good music, not too loud, cheaper, closed doors, very friendly ladies, often with a single drink you get to touch / see / finger. And these places are EMPTY. Almost every time I am one of 2-3 customers, sometimes I'm the only one. I enjoy that privacy and naughtiness, but obviously these places can't compete with Soi 6 in quality / quantity of ladies. Actually being this empty I'm surprised they can keep the few ladies that are there.
I can have good fun in both types of places, but I fail to understand why all the veteran whiners simply don't support the venues that try to keep it the old way.Don't think it is only expat complaining plus how do you know they aren't just complaining and not doing as you are saying? This can also be in regards to GoGo too?
As an expat, I agree as they say let your feet do the talking. BUT, when you live or visit it would be crazy if one writes it off completely, as for Six I speak for myself, I've pretty much written it off plus I've never been one to sit outside and drink. When I did visit I always took the girl inside like Red Point, today most are just opened not my thing. Once or twice a year with time on my hands I do visit walk up and down to see if anything has changed once doing the late afternoons and at night.
But as you noted, right now GC and for me massage are the venue I visit when it is time to let LBM out for a walk.
Intrepid123
08-27-24, 04:34
Don't think it is only expat complaining plus how do you know they aren't just complaining and not doing as you are saying? This can also be in regards to GoGo too?
Just saying what I can witness, GCs are usually very deserted despite all their efforts to please expats.
I don't go to gogos much, but from the few I went this year I noticed 2 types:
Type 1 - depressing: rundown venues with fat / old birds that sometimes latch onto you and won't go away even when you don't buy anything, a DJ playing insufferable remixes that aren't better than any random youtube beat, few customers that sit on a single beer and leave, with some luck you can find diamonds in the rough.
Type 2 - places rammed with ladies and customers, more expensive, barely any place to seat, 3 teams of over 30 ladies taking turns in a crammed stage, lots of ladies have silicon tits and lips, everything looks well maintained and controlled, some ladies are friendly some are more "picky". I doubt I could get any pussy in these places for under 5-6 k (including drink / BF).
Once again, the more expensive party-atmosphere place rammed with ladies clearly triumphs.
One of the things that I have noticed posting in ISG is that visitors to a particular area pretty much don't know shit.
One thing I noticed in Pattaya, especially the expat community: they love to complain about the current state of Soi 6 - loud, shit music, more expensive, no privacy, picky ladies, drink mercenaries, barfine prices.
I can have good fun in both types of places, but I fail to understand why all the veteran whiners simply don't support the venues that try to keep it the old way.Visitors have two factors against them. The wheels up clock is ticking and they are on the tourist economy. Now if you are a visitor and you speak Thai and you have unlimited amounts of time when you visit then I apologize. I am not speaking to you. But it has pretty much been my experience that visitor don't know shit about Pattaya. I have a set of friends that were just here. They are the ones that introduced me to Pattaya. They have been coming to Pattaya for years. They come back and ask me to show them MY Pattaya. And I did. And they really enjoyed themselves. I took them places they had simply never bothered to venture out to see.
I don't consider myself an expat. And you do not find me complaining up in here about the girl, venues and offerings that are available in Pattaya. My complaints are with the posters. And I make my opinions very clear in the Rants Thread. But what I have learned during my long visit to Pattaya is that the longer I am here the more that I learn. When I first arrived I was hunting for pussy. Today I don't have enough time or dick to give it to all the girls that are offering it to me. And at my there are plenty available at my price point.
Was just chatting with a girl on Thai Friendly. From an African nation. She wanted 2000 THB. I agreed. I asked for BBFS she said no; I told her then 1500 THB and I finish in your mouth. She said bye. Who gives a fuck? So many girls in Thai Friendly that will spread their legs for 1000 - 1500 THB and let me blow my splooge up in um.
Not there are mother fuckers posting up in here that are going to say girls at that price point are ugly. They say this without ever seeing the pictures of any of them. On top of that they never give information on the prices of the prostitutes they hire or post pictures. So, two middle fingers up to the appearance police. Fuck um!
Don't think it is only expat complaining plus how do you know they aren't just complaining and not doing as you are saying? This can also be in regards to GoGo too?This is my man here. He be keeping it 100. He be keeping it so 100 mother fuckers have apoplectic fits reading his posts. His posts be so real mother fuckers lose their mind over the information he be kicking into their eye holes. When they can't handle it they be taking big shit about his use of English. WTF?!
I don't believe expats are complaining. They could give a fuck. Because they have time and knowledge on their side. I have not perspective on the glory days of Pattaya. But I can tell you that glory days sentimentality exists the world over. I spend extensive time in the Dominican Republic. It isn't like it was when I first arrive there. But new guys that go enjoy themselves. Who am I to rain on their parade to tell them how much better it used to be 10 years ago.
In fact, why does anyone give orders to other grown men. Personally I like it when people report their thoughts are experiences. Who am I to tell someone else how they should handle their experiences like this guy:
Thanks for the clarification. Concur with if you don't like the prices. Go else where. Lots and lots of fresh or at least alive fish to fry in Pattaya.
I went to Kings Club. I reported a bad experience. But any place can have a bad day. I returned and had an off the chain experience. Had I just got my panties in a knot (like some of the mother fuckers posting up in here) I would have stormed out never to return. That would have been my loss. LOL!. If I had listened to the advice being given I would not have had the outstanding experience I did later. Even deciding to make it a regular stop on my list.
So my thoughts are complain all you like. I simply review of the posting history of an individual will give you insight into the type of poster they are. I am the type of poster that rubs people the wrong way. So they put me on ignore. To each their own. What no one has ever done is show where I have posted factually incorrect information about a venue.
Aom is my good friend. The cashier / moma son of Modis bar. All the soi 6 bars in the night wish group do not have a minimum drink quota to buy the girls if you want to fuck them. Go to the ST room upstairs with no issues. 1500-2000ST plus room. If you are a handsome man, you can maybe get for 1000 with certain ladies but difficult. Long time is a different story. I don't care what anyone tells you from the board, but Long time BF at all nightwish bar on Soi 6 is 2000-2500 Baht starting from when the bar opens at 3-4 PM. The bar fine slowly drops in price until the bar closes. Every bar will slightly modify this depending on many factors. Then there is the girls's fee. Ranging from 2500 LT up. Now about mandatory drinks needing to be bought for the girl to bar fine her long time. The girl is not obligated to go with any customer LT or ST. Therefore, if they decide they want you to buy a few drinks before going LT, there is nothing you can do about it. Either do it or don't. Just realize that you will not be looked upon as a good customer if you walk in and buy one lady drink and then try to bar fine the girl LT.
I know it sucks, but if the bar does make these subtle regulations, some bars would have no girls after 9 PM, and the bar would make very little money and would close down. Then where would you go? Think about it. If you buy 1 beer at say 80-100 Baht. Then you buy one lady drink at 160 Baht. Then you bar fine the girl for lets say 500-700 Baht and take the girl out of the bar, she does not make her drink quota, her salary is reduced for her 10 day contract and the bar closes. Why? Because they pay the girl's reduced salary, and get only 1 customer drink, one lady drink, and a small bar fine with maybe 2/10 customers who bar fine. This business model won't work. The bar will be closed faster than my next bar fine will say " Cum inside me" lol.
Now, I will get the comments" You must be a bar owner" ".
"Why do you take the side of the bar owner?
I say this to those board members "so what". I don't care what you think. We are just talking simple math here and simple business sense.
My advice to anyone who complains about a bar fine being too expensive, complains about buying lady drinks and drink queens, or complains about the ST or LT fees from girls working in a bar or go go, you should just stop going to the bars and clubs. There are beach road girls, Freelancers on TF and Tinder, gents clubs, plus cheap beer bars. Just stop going to Soi 6, walking street, and LK metro and so on. Pattaya has many options for different budgets.
The problem is guys look on line and see the photos of the girls working on Soi 6 for example, fall in love with their photos, then come on these message boards and forums and get info on pricing. However, that info on pricing turns out to not be accurate. Why? Because the poster posts what he is willing to pay and passes that off as what the going rates actually are. That is creating false expectations on price for everyone else. Then you have the old timers who won't pay the new pricing no matter what. The price needs to be the same as it was 10 years ago. When you say the word inflation, you get them claiming g there is no such thing in Pattaya and everything is even cheaper than it was 10 years ago today. Thats a whole other topic of its own so I better not keep on this or Mr. E or Explorer will have a fit lol.
Conclusion. If you don't like the prices at a bar, just leave and don't go back. There are plenty of other options. For example, head to WS at 2 AM. You will find FLs in 808 that you can take for 2000-2500 LT and many are just coming off shift from soi 6 and go looking for customers.No bar fine and no lady drinks. End of story.Aom, your good friend, is a major scammer.
You think you know everything. But you are unaware of what's truly going on because you never barfine anyone in Pattaya.
I didn't tell the whole story before. But I will tell it now. I went to Mod's Bar at around 4 pm. It was my first time there. Over a drink, I asked the girl how much the barfine is. And she said 3,000 Baht plus ten lady drinks. At 9 pm, the 3,000 Baht goes down to 1,500 Baht. I tell her that I will be back at 9 pm to barfine her longtime. She says she will wait for me. I do not know if she really meant it or not.
At 9 pm, I return to Mod's and to my surprise, the girl is standing at the front of the bar. I tell her I will pay her barfine. She then tells me that she has six drinks left, which means that I have to buy her six drinks plus pay 1,500 barfine fee. The girl says she will not drink the six lady drinks.
Can you see where this is going? I don't have a problem with buying a few drinks before a LT barfine. But this is not the same.
So I get a bill of 2,520 Baht. I did not order any drinks and no drinks were brought to the table. I expected to be charged for six 160 Baht drinks plus 1,500 Baht. But I got charged for six 170 Baht shots. Again, I did not order any shots for the girl. And no six shot drinks were brought to the table. Your good friend should have at least had the decency to charge me for six 160 Baht drinks, drinks that never existed in the first place.
Now, is this how you described it to all of us?
Your scammer friend is enforcing a ten drink quota that does not exist. She is also charging customers for drinks that were never ordered. On top of that, she is charging for drinks that were never prepared in the first place.
Does this sound like sound business practice to you?
I know what your friend is doing. This Bryan Flowers guy creates competition among his many bars. So Aom is trying to become the number one branch in terms of revenue. That will secure her job and possibly a pay raise in the future. I hear Flowers likes to fire managers at poorly performing bars.
About the girl, I don't think she is a scammer. She never complained and she never asked me for anything. But of course, she benefited a lot from the scam as well.
In case, anyone is asking why I allowed myself to be scammed. I did it in the name of investigative journalism.
The girl promised to stay until 10 am. She stayed a little longer and left at 10:30 am. I gave her 4,000 Baht as promised.
Just saying what I can witness, GCs are usually very deserted despite all their efforts to please expats.
Once again, the more expensive party-atmosphere place rammed with ladies clearly triumphs.As long as they cannot attract and keep young and good looking girls, they won't be able to compete with soi 6 or Gogos anytime.
Aom, your good friend, is a major scammer.
In case, anyone is asking why I allowed myself to be scammed. I did it in the name of investigative journalism.Thanks for sharing that story, it was very interesting.
From what you've said (on top of the clear scam), it seems that the price of their barfine has gone up too.
It seems to be now 3000 during the day, 1500 past 9 or 10, and probably 1000 or 1200 past midnight. It used to be (a few months ago) 2500 during the day, 1250 past 9 or 10 and 800 past midnight.
Aom, your good friend, is a major scammer.
You think you know everything. But you are unaware of what's truly going on because you never barfine anyone in Pattaya.
I didn't tell the whole story before. But I will tell it now. I went to Mod's Bar at around 4 pm. It was my first time there. Over a drink, I asked the girl how much the barfine is. And she said 3,000 Baht plus ten lady drinks. At 9 pm, the 3,000 Baht goes down to 1,500 Baht. I tell her that I will be back at 9 pm to barfine her longtime. She says she will wait for me. I do not know if she really meant it or not.
At 9 pm, I return to Mod's and to my surprise, the girl is standing at the front of the bar. I tell her I will pay her barfine. She then tells me that she has six drinks left, which means that I have to buy her six drinks plus pay 1,500 barfine fee. The girl says she will not drink the six lady drinks.
Can you see where this is going? I don't have a problem with buying a few drinks before a LT barfine. But this is not the same.
So I get a bill of 2,520 Baht. I did not order any drinks and no drinks were brought to the table. I expected to be charged for six 160 Baht drinks plus 1,500 Baht. But I got charged for six 170 Baht shots. Again, I did not order any shots for the girl. And no six shot drinks were brought to the table. Your good friend should have at least had the decency to charge me for six 160 Baht drinks, drinks that never existed in the first place.
Now, is this how you described it to all of us?
Your scammer friend is enforcing a ten drink quota that does not exist. She is also charging customers for drinks that were never ordered. On top of that, she is charging for drinks that were never prepared in the first place.
Does this sound like sound business practice to you?
I know what your friend is doing. This Bryan Flowers guy creates competition among his many bars. So Aom is trying to become the number one branch in terms of revenue. That will secure her job and possibly a pay raise in the future. I hear Flowers likes to fire managers at poorly performing bars..Why not just use Thai Friendly?
I've been here almost 3 weeks now and I've only been using TF to source my providers. I've been paying on average 1200 baht per session and the majority of them are BBFS.
I never pay for no stupid lady drinks or even regular drinks for that matter. If I want a drink I go to Tops Daily where they sell the big green bottles of Singha beer for 64 baht.
The whole concept of barfines and lady drinks is absurd.
But to each his own I suppose.
Gabacho Out.
Hello dear Friends.
I will be visiting pattaya next week. I want to enjoy fun night with WG from CIS.
Help me regarding where I can find them and charges..Dubai. Expensive.
Pimpampoumpipo
08-27-24, 12:46
Stay in Pattaya from August 21 to September 08,2024. I take 25 MG of Sildenafil / day when traveling for about 1 year. Condo soi Buakhaow. Direct flight Paris Thai Airways round trip 877 € purchased several months in advance. Condo: 790 €. On-site expenses (supermarket shopping, take-away food, gogo bars, bolt motobike, songtaws, girls, etc.): 648 € on these 5 first days.
All prices below are expressed in baht.
According to my notes taken on site from day 1 to day 5. Google translate french > english.
Day 1:
Girl 1: 30 years old. The appointment I had made from Paris having her period, (she warned me at the last minute the same day, you always have to have a plan B in Pattaya), I let myself be tempted by a Thaifriendly contact. No memory of who it is on the TF site. She put pressure on me to come, she absolutely wanted it which worried me a little at first. All crazy, very determined. I just gave her the room number of the condo, she managed it all by herself and 10 minutes after my agreement on Line she was knocking on the door. Even I can't get in like that. Pretty girl, 157 cms, skin tending towards brown, well built, pretty pussy that I licked and licked. Didn't seem very motivated in bed though. Legs a little tight which I didn't find unpleasant. A 69 where I felt her teeth a little but bearable. I was hard as a bull and I didn't take long to cum in doggy style. Nice and cheerful, beautiful smile. 1000 B + 200 B tip.
Girl 2: 19 years old. Bar soi 13/1 fucked in the room above. I thought I had enough after the first girl, tiredness helping. I came doggy style. Pretty 19 year old face, I let myself be tempted despite the tiredness of the trip, after all, by her angel face, short hair. Excellent long and deep blowjob, lets herself be kissed a few licks on the pussy. Ass a little prominent but largely excused by her 19 year old body. Nice, great smile. 1000 for her and 300 for the room. Not expensive too.
Day 2:
Girl of the day: Soi Honey massage. Pretty girl 25 years old, nice curves. Turned me on just by looking at her. She recognized me but I didn't recognize her. It often happens to me not to recognize girls. All she has to do is change her hairstyle, or even her clothes and I don't recognize her anymore. No problem if I feel like it's the first time I've met her. I took her anyway (even though I've already pulled her). Other girls at the massage parlor recognized me but not me. It must also be said that I have a goldfish memory. Long and sensual deep blowjob. 1300 + 200 tip.
Day 3:
Girl of the day: 27 years old. Soi 6 towards the end. Bar and mamasan a bit crash who barked at me. . The girl I think wanted me to choose her but something was holding her back to feel comfortable (maybe the asking price). Relaxed as trust settled in. Good blowjob, nice ass and nice thighs. Not many breasts and which tended to sag but at least not silicone. Honest fuck. I came doggy style. A bit expensive though: 2000 for her and 500 for the room. Here we pay in advance, I don't usually like it but here I let it happen, in these cases I don't leave a tip. Excessive price anyway.
There is really everything on Soi 6, the prices vary from simple to double for no really apparent reason except, and still not always if she is young or not.
Day 4:
Girl of the day: Thaifriendly. Finally I did it again, I opened Thaifriendly. I called one of the profiles that seemed to match the criteria sought. You also need a quick contact number like whatsapp because I don't have a subscription. I'm not keen on bringing girls contacted by these dating tools (Thayfriendly, Pinalove, .), I was too disappointed. Photoshopped images, dated several years ago, when it's not a ladyboy that I see arriving instead of a girl. This second experience went rather well. Contact Thaifriendly at 2:15 pm, she lives not far from my condo, I ask her to send me some photos to be sure, we agree on the price (1000 baht, rather cheap) and I suggest she come take a shower in my condo to go faster. 2:45 pm we are in bed, 3:15 pm she took her departure shower. Very good deep blowjob, 69, missionary and I came doggy style. A little pompoi and the breasts a little saggy but given her age it was more than acceptable. Nice, did what I wanted. An efficient and smoothly conducted business. Price: 1000 B + 200 tip.
Day 5:
Girl 1: Normally she was supposed to come, we had made an appointment since early in the morning for 4:00 pm And then either she forgot or she was busy with another customer, obviously she wasn't there at the appointed time. She answered my reminder message at 4:40 pm Luckily I hadn't waited for her but I had still organized my afternoon for this appointment. I don't know when the next appointment will be but i am not in a hurry.
Girl 2: Last massage parlor soi Honey towards soi Buakhaow. Teen body, rather small size. Short blowjob but not bad. It hurt during penetration so she moaned what I think was pain. It wasn't unbearable but still. She tried to squeeze her thighs together. So it rather excited me, I stuck my tongue in her mouth during sex. I came in missionary because I think she wouldn't have tolerated doggy style. Original but I don't think I'll do it again. Price: 1300 B paid in advance to the mamasan so no tip at the end (my principle: if you don't trust me, too bad for you, I don't put my hand back in my pocket after).
Banana Boi
08-27-24, 12:51
However, there are places (gentlemen clubs) that are exactly the opposite: good music, not too loud, cheaper, closed doors, very friendly ladies, often with a single drink you get to touch / see / finger. And these places are EMPTY. Almost every time I am one of 2-3 customers, sometimes I'm the only one. I enjoy that privacy and naughtiness, but obviously these places can't compete with Soi 6 in quality / quantity of ladies. Actually being this empty I'm surprised they can keep the few ladies that are there.One of the main reasons I like G clubs is AC! Don't know about the rest of you but on a scorching sunny afternoon in Pattaya I prefer not to sit in an open beer bar or restaurant. I prefer to be in cool AC. When I was living full time in Pattaya I was the only person who wrote about my weekly G club runs. My friends all went to Soi 6 every single afternoon while I went to G clubs more often than to 6. They never went to G clubs partly due to laziness partly because they stereotyped G clubs as having older girls. Then I would show them a photo of my newest G club girls and their jaws dropped.
The only thing I disagree with your statement is about girl quality. G clubs had nice girls too compared to 6 but it just took a lot more legwork. As someone who lived in Pattaya for years (like Sub I never considered myself an expat) I had all the time in the world to go to G Clubs. If you're only there for a short time like 2-3 weeks you don't have that luxury. In all my G club adventures 2 girls would make it in my top 10 for best looking girls I ever met in Pattaya, one at Kinnaree and one at Carre Blanc of all places. That's saying something being a hard core gogo guy for almost a decade now.
Here we pay in advance, I don't usually like it but here I let it happen, in these cases I don't leave a tip. Excessive price anyway.Only the room and drinks must be paid in advance, you can pay the girl when you've finished.
Expat American
08-27-24, 13:56
One of the main reasons I like G clubs is AC! Don't know about the rest of you but on a scorching sunny afternoon in Pattaya I prefer not to sit in an open beer bar or restaurant. I prefer to be in cool AC. When I was living full time in Pattaya I was the only person who wrote about my weekly G club runs. My friends all went to Soi 6 every single afternoon while I went to G clubs more often than to 6. They never went to G clubs partly due to laziness partly because they stereotyped G clubs as having older girls. Then I would show them a photo of my newest G club girls and their jaws dropped.
The only thing I disagree with your statement is about girl quality. G clubs had nice girls too compared to 6 but it just took a lot more legwork. As someone who lived in Pattaya for years (like Sub I never considered myself an expat) I had all the time in the world to go to G Clubs. If you're only there for a short time like 2-3 weeks you don't have that luxury. In all my G club adventures 2 girls would make it in my top 10 for best looking girls I ever met in Pattaya, one at Kinnaree and one at Carre Blanc of all places. That's saying something being a hard core gogo guy for almost a decade now.In Pattaya Gents clubs is the best option, and second is oily massage shops. Gogo bars are just for looking and playing. Soi 6 is overwhelming, loud and hot. There is no better way to spend an afternoon than in a nice cool GC with 3 girls playing with your dick and stuffing their boobs in your face for a few ladies drinks. Then take one or two of them upstairs and get BBFSCIP for a very reasonable tip. Good Times.
Anybody know if the the Raw Shrimp Salad lady does some side business besides salads?
Asking for a friend.
EverythingThai
08-27-24, 19:14
I arrived at around 5 PM. My first stop was Mirror club. I found this place on Facebook and the photos of the bar looked great. Looks like an old style cigar lounge. When I arrived at the club, I was really disappointed. There were only 6 ladies working and none of them were to my liking. Nevertheless, I sat down at the bar and drank a few with the cashier. She was good fun.
Next stop was Cameltoe. Walked in and the place was packed. Can't figure out why because every lady in there seemed like they were in their 40's. One had huge tits though, but I would not fuck her with Sub Pars dick lol. Didn't stay and called another bolt.
Next stop was Maggie Mays. Walked in and I couldn't get a seat as it was rammed. I mean both sides and the bar were full of customers. There was about 25 or so ladies there working at the time. I figured it would not be like this the whole night so I went across the road to Buzzin lounge to wait it out. Had a few drinks with Trevor, Thip and another girl whose name I have forgotten. Talent was pretty average. About 3 out of the 12 girls working were doable. After about 30 minutes headed back over to Maggie Mays and found a seat at the bar. I was greeted by Gee Gee who I have been with 2 times before in a threesome plus another girl. Then a table opened up on the new side of the bar and I took it. Only sat down for about 15 minutes before I was joined by 2 other ladies. Next thing I know, I was literally being raped LOL. Curtains closed and 4 girls were going absolutely nuts. Licking ass, licking pussy, sucking my dick. It was fucking wild. After about 40 minutes of non stop action I blew my load into one girl’s mouth and she swallowed it all. Couldn't believe it. After coming up for air. I had to exit stage left back to the bar to recoup my energy and regroup. That little bit of side action cost me 4 wracks of tequila, one for each lady. Was not charged for using the curtain.
After about an hour or so of drinking at the bar, I started to get horny again. I noticed one of my regulars had just left her customer, so I invited her over for a few drinks. Ordered her one wrack of tequila and the dress comes off. Fully naked at the bar while grinding me. I couldn't take too much more of this so I took her by the hand and went upstairs. After a quick shower it was onto the bed. What came next was some fully unadulterated fucking and sucking that just blew my mind. Every position imaginable. I had just finished 1 time already so this time I was a lot slower to finish. However, I powered through and blew my second load of the night deep inside her pussy.
All I can say is Maggie Mays has always been consistently good for me. Good music, drinks reasonably priced and some really sexy and dirty ladies. Every table had action. Girls sucking cock, licking pussy and ass. Love Maggie Mays.
EverythingThai
08-27-24, 19:24
Aom, your good friend, is a major scammer.
You think you know everything. But you are unaware of what's truly going on because you never barfine anyone in Pattaya.
I didn't tell the whole story before. But I will tell it now. I went to Mod's Bar at around 4 pm. It was my first time there. Over a drink, I asked the girl how much the barfine is. And she said 3,000 Baht plus ten lady drinks. At 9 pm, the 3,000 Baht goes down to 1,500 Baht. I tell her that I will be back at 9 pm to barfine her longtime. She says she will wait for me. I do not know if she really meant it or not.
At 9 pm, I return to Mod's and to my surprise, the girl is standing at the front of the bar. I tell her I will pay her barfine. She then tells me that she has six drinks left, which means that I have to buy her six drinks plus pay 1,500 barfine fee. The girl says she will not drink the six lady drinks.
Can you see where this is going? I don't have a problem with buying a few drinks before a LT barfine. But this is not the same.
So I get a bill of 2,520 Baht. I did not order any drinks and no drinks were brought to the table. I expected to be charged for six 160 Baht drinks plus 1,500 Baht. But I got charged for six 170 Baht shots. Again, I did not order any shots for the girl. And no six shot drinks were brought to the table. Your good friend should have at least had the decency to charge me for six 160 Baht drinks, drinks that never existed in the first place.
Now, is this how you described it to all of us?
Your scammer friend is enforcing a ten drink quota that does not exist. She is also charging customers for drinks that were never ordered. On top of that, she is charging for drinks that were never prepared in the first place.
Does this sound like sound business practice to you?
I know what your friend is doing. This Bryan Flowers guy creates competition among his many bars. So Aom is trying to become the number one branch in terms of revenue. That will secure her job and possibly a pay raise in the future. I hear Flowers likes to fire managers at poorly performing bars.
About the girl, I don't think she is a scammer. She never complained and she never asked me for anything. But of course, she benefited a lot from the scam as well.
In case, anyone is asking why I allowed myself to be scammed. I did it in the name of investigative journalism.
The girl promised to stay until 10 am. She stayed a little longer and left at 10:30 am. I gave her 4,000 Baht as promised.LOL. Ya she is. I told you in my other post that there is no minimum drink rule. Sorry to say but you asked for it. You got scammed real good. However you didn't lose your shirt and had a good time with the girl so who really gives a flying fuck about a few thousand baht. Glad you had fun with the girl. Dont go back there though.
About your comment about me never bar-fining anyone in Pattaya. Dont take it out me mate for you getting scammed . I have bar fined my share of girls on Soi 6 and at other places such as XS go go, Pin Up, Seduction, exotica, Boofies, Passion, Maggie Mays and the list goes on and on.
RamDavidson84
08-27-24, 19:24
One of the main reasons I like G clubs is AC! Don't know about the rest of you but on a scorching sunny afternoon in Pattaya I prefer not to sit in an open beer bar or restaurant. I prefer to be in cool AC. When I was living full time in Pattaya I was the only person who wrote about my weekly G club runs. My friends all went to Soi 6 every single afternoon while I went to G clubs more often than to 6. They never went to G clubs partly due to laziness partly because they stereotyped G clubs as having older girls. Then I would show them a photo of my newest G club girls and their jaws dropped.
The only thing I disagree with your statement is about girl quality. G clubs had nice girls too compared to 6 but it just took a lot more legwork. As someone who lived in Pattaya for years (like Sub I never considered myself an expat) I had all the time in the world to go to G Clubs. If you're only there for a short time like 2-3 weeks you don't have that luxury. In all my G club adventures 2 girls would make it in my top 10 for best looking girls I ever met in Pattaya, one at Kinnaree and one at Carre Blanc of all places. That's saying something being a hard core gogo guy for almost a decade now.I am with you. I don't do well in heat, especially if I hit the gym earlier in the day. Probably early onset heart disease LOL, but whatever. I always felt like a camel searching for water in a desert, except the exact opposite. A drunk horny sweaty monger searching for a bar with AC in the urban jungle heat of Pattaya. One of the reasons I liked WS so much, most gogos had AC. Saphire on that side street where the burger king is had some very sexy ladies the other night.
Mirror club; Cameltoe; Maggie Mays. Buzzin lounge
Saw a report that read more like bad internet porn titled: Night out in Pattaya.
It was a tales of the dick story about a night of adventure in the venues was in italics above. Not a single mention about prices at all. Yet, I see extensive reports about the Soi 6 and the proper business model we should support. Maybe drink prices, room prices and girl prices were simply overlooked?
Enquiring minds want to know At least I do.
In Pattaya Gents clubs is the best option, and second is oily massage shops. Gogo bars are just for looking and playing. Soi 6 is overwhelming, loud and hot. There is no better way to spend an afternoon than in a nice cool GC with 3 girls playing with your dick and stuffing their boobs in your face for a few ladies drinks. Then take one or two of them upstairs and get BBFSCIP for a very reasonable tip. Good Times.My experiences align with your and and I 100% agree with the availability of a high quality sexual experience for a very reasonable cost in the average Gentleman's Club in Pattaya, Thailand.
One of the main reasons I like G clubs is AC! Don't know about the rest of you but on a scorching sunny afternoon in Pattaya I prefer not to sit in an open beer bar or restaurant. I prefer to be in cool AC.I couldn't agree more. AC in restaurants and bars is a must for me too. Which is why I hung out at the Las Vegas bar complex on Soi Diana.
All I can say is Maggie Mays has always been consistently good for me. Good music, drinks reasonably priced and some really sexy and dirty ladies. Every table had action. Girls sucking cock, licking pussy and ass. Love Maggie Mays.I was disappointed with Maggie Mays on my 2023 trip. On my just completed trip Maggie Mays was consistently good. I meant to visit their sister Club Fate but forgot. I went to Buzzin for the first time and was disappointed they didn't seem to allow much hanky panky in the bar. They had the privacy curtains but none were in use and the girls didn't seem playful as across the street.
Mr Enternational
08-27-24, 22:39
Next stop was Cameltoe. Walked in and the place was packed. Can't figure out why because every lady in there seemed like they were in their 40's.Probably something to do with people fancying varying things, no matter how many guys come on a site like this professing they would only fuck Miss Thailand or her stunt double.
Why not just use Thai Friendly?Because this is Pattaya my friend.
But to each his own I suppose.No need to suppose my friend. 100 percent to each their own.
We have had this discussion before privately. I like having the options. I personally have no complaints about anywhere I have visited. I have been irritated by the way I was treated in a couple of places. But it did not stop me from getting my nut.
The true beauty of Pattaya it that is allows for everyone to get everything they like at the price point they desire. I do not complain about a 1500 THB Barfine; 3000 Short Time; 5000 Long Time price structure. Or the price of Lady Drinks. I simply do not bar fine at the price point. But in the right place, a Lady Drink can get you a lot. It is entertainment.
I want to see reports about what people are doing and the prices they are paying. I am not here to tell people how they should be spending their hard earned money or who they should be fucking. Neither am I here to tell them how they should be fucking (BBFS or Condom). Nor do I have any comment about the different price points or the appearance of the prostitutes others are hiring. But I suppose if there was not all this back and forth we might actually have a thread that contained useful information on having sex with girls. And we wouldn't want that now would we. LOL!
I've been here almost 3 weeks now and I've only been using TF to source my providers. I've been paying on average 1200 baht per session and the majority of them are BBFS.
I never pay for no stupid lady drinks or even regular drinks for that matter. If I want a drink I go to Tops Daily where they sell the big green bottles of Singha beer for 64 baht.
The whole concept of barfines and lady drinks is absurd.
But to each his own I suppose.
Gabacho Out.No comment. LOL!
As long as they cannot attract and keep young and good looking girls, they won't be able to compete with soi 6 or Gogos anytime.And yet they do. Because the pussy market is highly segmented. Everyone can find what they are looking for at the price point they are looking for it at.
The only people I see complaining are those who want something they are not willing to pay for. It is that simple.
PRO TIP:If you want top of the line girls off of Soi 6. Goto Soi 6 and pay for them. If you want A level agogo girls; Goto to the proper venues and pay for them. If you don't want to buy Lady Drinks then work Thai Friendly, Oilies, or Soapies..
We are hiring prostitutes here gentlemen. This is not brain surgery. It is easy. But if you got alligator arms, complaining about it up in dis ***** not going to help you one bit. Up your game and get free pussy as a PUA. But even regular girls want to go on dates. You pay for the date if you ask the girl out. So I don't see how it is possible to get away from the money aspect of this game. It is just a matter of how much you are willing to pay.
How you like me now?
Because this is Pattaya my friend.
No need to suppose my friend. 100 percent to each their own.
We have had this discussion before privately. I like having the options. I personally have no complaints about anywhere I have visited. I have been irritated by the way I was treated in a couple of places. But it did not stop me from getting my nut.
The true beauty of Pattaya it that is allows for everyone to get everything they like at the price point they desire. I do not complain about a 1500 THB Barfine; 3000 Short Time; 5000 Long Time price structure. Or the price of Lady Drinks. I simply do not bar fine at the price point. But in the right place, a Lady Drink can get you a lot. It is entertainment.
I want to see reports about what people are doing and the prices they are paying. I am not here to tell people how they should be spending their hard earned money or who they should be fucking. Neither am I here to tell them how they should be fucking (BBFS or Condom). Nor do I have any comment about the different price points or the appearance of the prostitutes others are hiring. But I suppose if there was not all this back and forth we might actually have a thread that contained useful information on having sex with girls. And we wouldn't want that now would we. LOL!
No comment. LOL!Thank you for your response brother. I agree that there is something here in Pattaya for everyone and for every budget. I also agree that perhaps the whole concept of barfines and lady drinks is not entirely absurd but rather getting charged for something that was served or consumed (such as in the case of the guy being charged for 6 lady drinks that were never even served) is absurd. It's like being charged for something you didn't buy.
I think we all would agree that that is a form of theft.
On the other hand if you are enjoying the ambience of a beer bar or gentlenemen's club and having a good time with a bar girl, then perhaps buying her a lady drink or two while vetting girl to see if you have good chemistry with her is not necessarily a bad idea, especially if it leads to a better session once in the room. We all worked for our money and we all should be free to decide how to spend it, whether on a buffet, or at taco bell, or even on lady drinks while becoming comfortable with your next prospect. But to be charged for something you never received is a straight swindle in my opinion.
-Gabacho Out.
Why not just use Thai Friendly?
I've been here almost 3 weeks now and I've only been using TF to source my providers. I've been paying on average 1200 baht per session and the majority of them are BBFS.
I never pay for no stupid lady drinks or even regular drinks for that matter. If I want a drink I go to Tops Daily where they sell the big green bottles of Singha beer for 64 baht.
The whole concept of barfines and lady drinks is absurd.
But to each his own I suppose.
Gabacho Out.
Mr Enternational
08-28-24, 06:19
Up your game and get free pussy as a PUA. But even regular girls want to go on dates. You pay for the date if you ask the girl out. So I don't see how it is possible to get away from the money aspect of this game. It is just a matter of how much you are willing to pay.You can always invite the girl in instead of out. I met a chick on Thai Friendly a couple of months ago. She works at a sandwich shop in a department store. I went to her job to see her back then. She always talked about how she wanted to come over but never did. Last night she finally came over. She said she never comes because she is always so tired after work. Today she had to be at work at 6 am. She got up and left my place at 5:15 am. Unless you count the 5 baht in gas it cost me to drive to her job 2 months ago, then there was no money aspect involved. That is not to say I have a problem taking her out if she ever wants to. I am not trying to sit in the room all the time, no matter how much pussy comes through the door.
I had been talking to another Thai Friendly chick for almost 1 week. She hit me up this morning at 5 something right after the other girl left. She said she would come over after 8 when she got her son off to school. She got here at 10:30 but there was no place to park her car. I went out and got in the car with her. From the beginning I got signals that she did not like me. I told her that she could just say she did not like me and I would leave. In true Thai fashion she did not want to admit it, but never wanting to waste anyone's time, I told her good luck and got out. Thousands more where that one came from.
As soon as I walked inside, some chick that does real estate hit me up on Thai Friendly. Maybe I will be seeing her tonight if she is free.
In case, anyone is asking why I allowed myself to be scammed. I did it in the name of investigative journalism.Nightwish bars are ruthless about letting girls go LT and many other bars are the same, once a girl leaves a bar then they are not bringing in revenue and when you lose too many girls then the bar loses customers for the rest of the night. I'm not someone that will LT very often so it does not affect me as I will find a TF girl when I want that.
What is annoying is that was that Soi 6 started as a street of bars where you could find a girl in the afternoon before Walking Street got going, while these bars have rooms on site to take a girl for a ST, more girls are becoming drink only, you sit down with a girl and buy her a drink to be social but when you decide to take her upstairs then she either says no or tells you after a few more drinks.
I have a few bars on Soi 6 that I still like (Hollywood, Fire, the traditional BJ bars and some that are not NW bars) but I have started to spend more time in the bars on Soi Buakhao, Soi Honey and Soi Pothole. It's changed a lot these past ten years.
Mosquito2002
08-28-24, 07:11
And yet they do. Because the pussy market is highly segmented. Everyone can find what they are looking for at the price point they are looking for it at.
The only people I see complaining are those who want something they are not willing to pay for. It is that simple.
PRO TIP:If you want top of the line girls off of Soi 6. Goto Soi 6 and pay for them. If you want A level agogo girls; Goto to the proper venues and pay for them. If you don't want to buy Lady Drinks then work Thai Friendly, Oilies, or Soapies..
We are hiring prostitutes here gentlemen. This is not brain surgery. It is easy. But if you got alligator arms, complaining about it up in dis ***** not going to help you one bit. Up your game and get free pussy as a PUA. But even regular girls want to go on dates. You pay for the date if you ask the girl out. So I don't see how it is possible to get away from the money aspect of this game. It is just a matter of how much you are willing to pay.
How you like me now?I get your point. Being a golfer, I live by. Any golf course that I desire or have the opportunity to play is worth the money (Once). It's been rough in recent years, as green fees are becoming crazy expensive. But have yet to regret paying / playing any course.
Ladies are a bit different, as have regretted many paying / playing experiences. Along, with many regretted missed opportunities.
That's Live!
Mr Enternational
08-28-24, 09:12
What is annoying is that was that Soi 6 started as a street of bars where you could find a girl in the afternoon before Walking Street got going, while these bars have rooms on site to take a girl for a ST, more girls are becoming drink only, you sit down with a girl and buy her a drink to be social but when you decide to take her upstairs then she either says no or tells you after a few more drinks.How is this a thing when you could have asked her about fucking before even sitting down? Or does that ruin the mood to ask a hooker about paying to fuck her before you have spent money on her? Ask questions first; be social later.
RamDavidson84
08-28-24, 10:14
Probably something to do with people fancying varying things, no matter how many guys come on a site like this professing they would only fuck Miss Thailand or her stunt double.I had a great time drinking with some of the girls in there early 40's. They were sweet hearts and funny.
Pimpampoumpipo
08-28-24, 12:09
Stay in Pattaya from August 21 to September 8, 2024. I have been taking 25 MG of Sildenafil / day when traveling for about 1 year. Direct flight Paris to Bangkok round trip Thai Airways €877 purchased several months in advance. Condo soi Buakhaow: €790. On-site expenses (supermarket shopping, takeaway food, gogo bars, bolt motobike, songtaws, girls, etc.): €279 for the 3 days.
All prices below are expressed in baht.
According to my notes taken on site from day 6 to day 8 Google Translate french to english (I can't be bothered to translate).
Day 6:
Girl of the day (22 years old): Met the day before around 22:00 while passing a bar at LK Metro, she was not too expensive (1300 B for her and 400 for the bar in case of barfine). We exchanged our Lines so that she would come today and avoid the barfine. Pretty as a picture, dresses the way I like (little tank top and shorts yesterday and a tight little black dress when she came to see me. Well built, nice little ass, nice little tits, a nice little hottie. Not stupid and we didn't really need Google translate to understand each other. Had a weird protuberance on her clit but her pussy tasted good. Comes from Jomtien 50 be there and 50 be back. Also I left her 200 be tip for her travel in general. She seemed happy.
Same for LK Metro that soi 6 the prices are crazy. A girl, not great, big lips and vulgar wh*re face, in her forties asks me 3000 B while 10 meters further a 22 year old, super cute, asks me 1300 + 400 barfine. I'll have her come to my room the next day. In short, we have to be careful, some people have a bit of a tendency taking people for stupid tourists.
Day 7:
Girl of the day (36 years old): Thaifriendly. Not as good a surprise as the one I met the day I arrived. Rather ugly face and she had a destroyed belly, vulgar voice but kind and naughty. It's a bit like the counterpart of Thaifriendly, you never really know who is hiding behind the photos. But nice all the same, I still tried to be positive and give a good atmosphere. I fantasized that I was fucking the cleaning lady and it made me cum doggy style. Price 1000 B and 200 tip.
Day 8:
Girl of the day (37 years old): Massage parlor soi 13/1. Nice girl that I have known since before Covid and who I often pass by, I greet her, kiss her but I don't stop. This time I let her take me to a room on the first floor for a very sensual oil massage. As soon as I turned on my back, things got out of hand. I couldn't help but touch and caress her, she gave me a deep and gentle blowjob, lover's kisses, I have her in missionary where she came and I almost came and it ended in doggy style. Pretty girl, well built, beautiful body, beautiful MILF ass, thick but firm and which does not sag, just the way I like it. I didn't remember how much I gave her. "2000" she told me. The little kinky has a memory. But for a GFE fuck like this, honestly, it's worth it.
Nightwish bars are ruthless about letting girls go LT and many other bars are the same, once a girl leaves a bar then they are not bringing in revenue and when you lose too many girls then the bar loses customers for the rest of the night.This is what bar owners have been saying over and over (on this site too) to justify their outrageous barfines but this is not reflecting reality.
We all know that not every girl can attract customers in and make them spend. Only a handfull of girls are able to do this in each of these bars. You walk past some bars and see the same girls standing or sitting there without a customer every night because they are passive and don't want (or don't know how) to play the game. Nobody want to spend on these girls (except for the room fee maybe). So when these girls are not there, the bar loses nothing. Yet the price of the barfine is the same for each one of them. If what you described was true, the barfine should be expensive only for the girls that brings in the cash, and every others should have a lower priced barfine which is not the case.
The reason is these bar owners are greedy and there is no reason to repeat what they try to pass off as a justification.
Mr Enternational
08-28-24, 13:34
I also agree that perhaps the whole concept of barfines and lady drinks is not entirely absurd but rather getting charged for something that was served or consumed (such as in the case of the guy being charged for 6 lady drinks that were never even served) is absurd. It's like being charged for something you didn't buy.That damn lady drink game is brutal. It went from paying for a real drink for the girl, to paying for a real drink but the girl drinking apple juice mixed with water, to fuck it, just give us the money and act like you bought a drink for someone.
We all know that not every girl can attract customers in and make them spend. Only a handfull of girls are able to do this in each of these bars. You walk past some bars and see the same girls standing or sitting there without a customer every night because they are passive and don't want (or don't know how) to play the game. Nobody want to spend on these girls (except for the room fee maybe). So when these girls are not there, the bar loses nothing. Yet the price of the barfine is the same for each one of them. If what you described was true, the barfine should be expensive only for the girls that brings in the cash, and every others should have a lower priced barfine which is not the case.
Not really. Go to higher-end massage parlours, and yes, there is a difference in price for prettier (for some subjective definition of prettier) girls. It would be too ugly IMO, even for Thailand, if there was such a brutal differentiation that some girls are "too ugly" to even require a barfine, and everyone in the bar knows that. Thai girls usually know pretty well themselves where they rank on the beauty scale, so there's no need to rub it in with salt like that.
Also, while my knowledge of bargirl economics is rather outdated now, as I have no Thai friends working or running bars anymore, 10 years ago it was still the case that the girl got roughly half the barfine herself back from the bar later.
As a buyer in the pussy market in Pattaya, Thailand you only choice anyone has is to change where they purchase their pussy
Complaining about the market place or the vendors in said market place is not going to change anything. But it does humor me to read about the complains of greedy, bar owners when they are being pussy at 1500 THB at a time after those same greedy bar owners have invested millions to THB into their operation and have payrolls to meet.
Who in the fuck is making you goto Soi 6 anyway? It is not like there is no other place to enter the pussy market place in Pattaya, Thailand.
Can we get some reports on other venues in Pattaya, Thailand or does Soi 6 have a monopoly on the marketplace?
GuyReynolds
08-29-24, 02:06
Gents and veterans.
Was wondering if there was a place where many non-thai (I. E. Viet, Cambodian, Laos, Chinese, etc.) girls and freelancers normally hang out at to be picked up. Is Beach Road the only place you'd normally find them? I'm aware some may be on ThaiFriendly, Tinder, Bumble, dating apps, and there's the escort sites too. Not sure what hotels, clubs, or locations where these girls would be. I know I'm in Thailand to get with Thai women, but I enjoy variety when I know its available.
It would be too ugly IMO, even for Thailand, if there was such a brutal differentiation that some girls are "too ugly" to even require a barfine, and everyone in the bar knows that. There's already a ranking established among the girls, it is based on their salary. The more a girl is performant, the higher her salary. Many girls can't reach their drink quota, nobody would feel hurted based on a ranking that already exist.
Secondly it is very naive to think that in a bar environnement, the management is worried to not hurt some of the girls feelings.
Also, while my knowledge of bargirl economics is rather outdated now, as I have no Thai friends working or running bars anymore, 10 years ago it was still the case that the girl got roughly half the barfine herself back from the bar later.The topic is about soi 6 bars.
As of a few months ago, the girl got 200 baht out of a 2500 baht barfine paid by the customer. That does not even make 10 percent of the amount, which equals to almost nothing in other words.
Pimpampoumpipo
08-29-24, 11:53
Nightwish bars are ruthless about letting girls go LT and many other bars are the same, once a girl leaves a bar then they are not bringing in revenue and when you lose too many girls then the bar loses customers for the rest of the night.
So the problem is when girls leave during bar hours. I can understand that.
But then bar and mamasan managers should be able to let girls give their Line if they want to meet customers outside of bar hours.
Why don't they? They need to get another business plan or everyone will go to Thaifriendly.
I know girls who left bars and who only work freelance thanks to networks. Why bother with a boss, impossible hours to drink alcohol and endanger their health when they can find customers whenether they want from home? As for customers, I read a lot of testimonies in this thread of customers who only go through Thaifriendly or their own network.
Explorer8939
08-30-24, 02:06
Gents and veterans.
Was wondering if there was a place where many non-thai (I. E. Viet, Cambodian, Laos, Chinese, etc.) girls and freelancers normally hang out at to be picked up. Is Beach Road the only place you'd normally find them? I'm aware some may be on ThaiFriendly, Tinder, Bumble, dating apps, and there's the escort sites too. Not sure what hotels, clubs, or locations where these girls would be. I know I'm in Thailand to get with Thai women, but I enjoy variety when I know its available.FYI. There are a lot of Laotians and Cambodians working in the bars these days.
Banana Boi
08-30-24, 04:34
There are a lot of Laotians and Cambodians working in the bars these days.Which bars are the Laos girls working at?
Mr Enternational
08-30-24, 06:02
Which bars are the Laos girls working at?They are all over. Always have been. Most foreingers will not know the difference unless they ask the girl where she is from and she tells them.
TravelingMan3
08-30-24, 07:10
Gents and veterans.
Was wondering if there was a place where many non-thai (I. E. Viet, Cambodian, Laos, Chinese, etc.) girls and freelancers normally hang out at to be picked up. Is Beach Road the only place you'd normally find them? I'm aware some may be on ThaiFriendly, Tinder, Bumble, dating apps, and there's the escort sites too. Not sure what hotels, clubs, or locations where these girls would be. I know I'm in Thailand to get with Thai women, but I enjoy variety when I know its available.There mixed in the places you have listed.
Intrepid123
08-30-24, 10:36
So the problem is when girls leave during bar hours. I can understand that.
But then bar and mamasan managers should be able to let girls give their Line if they want to meet customers outside of bar hours.
I always get the girls Line in the bars and no one ever stopped me from doing so. I'm not trying to do anything tricky I just want to keep track of the girl in case she is good and move bars, also good if I'm planning to come down and make sure she is there. Never had any problems with managers / mamasans.
The only problem I see (and totally agree with the bars) is when cheap charlies that are not customers try to chat the girls on the street to get their Line without spending a single baht at the bar.
If you get a specific answer to your question Banana Boi, I got the first round at the Bus Bar for you my man!
Which bars are the Laos girls working at?
Banana Boi
08-30-24, 15:59
They are all over. Always have been. Most foreingers will not know the difference unless they ask the girl where she is from and she tells them.Thanks Mr. E.
I guess it's because I rarely ask a girl where she's from so I don't know these things. I only ask if they look like a Caucasian mix. I find most girls tell me where they are from.
Yes Sub. I never understand why people can't name bars on this board (not directed at you Mr. E). Saying something means nothing if you can't use that information to know where to go. Thanks Falcon for the photo. She's not how I picture a Laos girl to look.
I'll ask you guys again for specific bar names once I'm on the ground again. No use asking now if I'm not in Pattaya.
I always get the girls Line in the bars and no one ever stopped me from doing so. I'm not trying to do anything tricky I just want to keep track of the girl in case she is good and move bars,
Only reason I ever ask for Line as well. I have no desire to message these girls on a daily basis. Girls are always shocked when I turn down their Line.
Mr Enternational
08-30-24, 16:07
The only problem I see (and totally agree with the bars) is when cheap charlies that are not customers try to chat the girls on the street to get their Line without spending a single baht at the bar.The street is fair game. Besides, I walk down the street and get the contact of 10 chicks. I am not going to walk into the bars and buy 10 drinks. Maybe the girls should be trained not to give out their contact unless the person buys a drink? Barfine 1500 to 2500 baht. Damn man, leave us some form of relief to get these girls.
Mr Enternational
08-30-24, 16:42
I never understand why people can't name bars on this board. Thanks Falcon for the photo. She's not how I picture a Laos girl to look.This girl is from Lao. I used to fuck her over 10 years ago. Do not remember if I met her in the disco or online. But I remember at the time she telling me she was working at a bar on Soi 13. Last I heard she was working on Soi Skaw Beach. I run into her every now and then. Of course I could just send a message if I wanted to see her.
I am not a bar guy, so even if I walked into a bar and got a girl or her contact, I probably would not know the name of the bar, know the name of the girl, and probably forget my own damn name.
The only problem I see (and totally agree with the bars) is when cheap charlies that are not customers try to chat the girls on the street to get their Line without spending a single baht at the bar.Not a matter of being a cheap charlie. The only girls I have spoken with on the street (Soi 6) are the girls that were on the street or the girls that came out of the bar to talk to me on the street.
This is a market. The bar owners do not have my interests at heart. They are on the supply side of the market. I am on the demand side of the market. It is a WAR! I want what I want at the lowest possible price. They want to sell it to me at the highest possible price.
Only in the pussy market to you have guys shilling for supply side of the market when they are on the demand side. In any and every other market they understand what is actually going on. But when it comes to pussy individuals lose their mother fucking minds over it.
Reference is made to your post where you explained to us that we could all get free pussy if we just invite the girls we contact on Thai Friendly to come over to our room:
This girl is from Lao. I used to fuck her over 10 years ago.For free or did you pay her?
There's already a ranking established among the girls, it is based on their salary. The more a girl is performant, the higher her salary. Many girls can't reach their drink quota, nobody would feel hurted based on a ranking that already exist.
Secondly it is very naive to think that in a bar environnement, the management is worried to not hurt some of the girls feelings.
You're perhaps right about that, but what incentive would a bar have for having girls working there if you can take them out of the bar without a barfine? Presumably if they're too ugly to require a barfine, they're too ugly to get many drinks bought for them too, so the bar would not keep them around.
Also if some girls were to not require a barfine, they'd become competition for the girls that do require a barfine. The barfines the bar makes money on. A guy might choose to go with an uglier no-barfine girl because she's an staggering 2500 baht cheaper due to no barfine, and then the bar loses that 2500 baht. So even ignoring any hurt feelings, I can't see how it would make any sense for a bar to have some girls that do not require a barfine.
I can't see how it would make any sense for a bar to have some girls that do not require a barfine.I don't give a fuck about a bar owner. I am a consumer. My job is to get the most value for my money. If a bar owner cannot figure out a system to make money with their bar the the rules of capitalism says they should go bankrupt. That space can be used by someone who understands the market better and produced profit.
Why all this concern for bar owners? I don't get it. Just because others posting up in her are friends with bar owners and get special benefits, therefore they shill for bar owners. I am not one of those people. I see the motivation of those people. And I don't pay attention to what those people have to say about the poor bar owners. Nah, I don't give a fuck about a bar owner. Anyone who does not own a bar shouldn't either. Unless they are comfortable giving their money to a business that does not deserve it.
Explorer8939
08-30-24, 23:42
FYI. There are a lot of Laotians and Cambodians working in the bars these days.If you go to Soi Chaiyapoon, you would be hard-pressed to find a bar that didn't have Laotians or Cambodians. But they don't walk around with placards advertising their nationality. And they will speak Thai.
The difference between a Laotians and a girl from Isaan is like the difference between someone from South Dakota and North Dakota.
If you get a specific answer to your question Banana Boi, I got the first round at the Bus Bar for you my man!Hi,
Any help where we can find Uzbek girls?
TIA.
Viv.
Explorer8939
08-31-24, 07:00
Note that Laotian and Cambodian girls may not have Thai work permits, so outing them online may not be doing them any favors.
Intrepid123
08-31-24, 08:20
The street is fair game. Besides, I walk down the street and get the contact of 10 chicks. I am not going to walk into the bars and buy 10 drinks. Maybe the girls should be trained not to give out their contact unless the person buys a drink? Barfine 1500 to 2500 baht. Damn man, leave us some form of relief to get these girls.I'd much rather go upstairs and pay the room 400-500 b. If I'm not in the mood for a bar then I'd go online and hit TF.
That said I much prefer to sleep alone. No warm body to make my bed even hotter in this climate, no one to wake me up when they move, no worries about getting anything stolen, not having to wake up a reluctant bg. And on top of everything I can save myself 2500 and use that money to bang a different one next day.
Pimpampoumpipo
08-31-24, 12:48
Any help where we can find Uzbek girls?Maybe in Uzbekistan ?
Maybe in Uzbekistan ?I am expressing my heartfelt appreciation for your kind information.
It is high on sense of humour but less on common sense.
Once again Thank you.
Regards.
Viv.
SoberHans69
08-31-24, 14:13
Hi,
Any help where we can find Uzbek girls?
TIA.
Viv.I've read that some hang out in the Indian discos but never been in them so can't confirm.
I've read that some hang out in the Indian discos but never been in them so can't confirm.Thanks for the information.
Banana Boi
08-31-24, 16:02
The two Korean live streamers who seem to come to Soi 6 every day.I recognize the guy in the first photo from Walking Street gogo bars.
Mr Enternational
08-31-24, 16:18
I've read that some hang out in the Indian discos but never been in them so can't confirm.I can confirm that. You would never know so many Uzbek chicks are in Pattaya until you step inside of those Indian discos.
Mr Enternational
08-31-24, 16:34
Reference is made to your post where you explained to us that we could all get free pussy if we just invite the girls we contact on Thai Friendly to come over to our room:Not the girls, but the girls who are not hookers.
For free or did you pay her?Used to give her 1000 baht per night as all, before I moved the salary up to $1200 baht / night. Matter of fact, a chick is on the way over now.
I had a bad scare the other night. Met a chick on TF who was beautiful. I went to pick her up and she looked straight drugged the fuck out. I was wondering why she kept telling me to bring 350 baht when I come pick her up. I saw her and said no thanks and drove the fuck off. Her pictures had to be before she got on that shit.
The TF chick coming now, I did meet in person 2 nights ago. Then I left that bird in hand chasing after what turned out to be a crackhead in the Bush.
Mr Enternational
08-31-24, 17:55
That said I much prefer to sleep alone. No warm body to make my bed even hotter in this climate, no one to wake me up when they move, no worries about getting anything stolen, not having to wake up a reluctant bg.I am the exact opposite. And those are things that I have never had to worry about. I have to wake up 3 times my damn self to go to the toilet. No problem with Thai chicks stealing or reluctant hookers.
I like to do my fucking right before going to sleep and when I wake up in the morning. I am too busy during the day to think about pussy. I like to have it when I am winding down. The same as my massages. My massage lady closes early and always asks why I come so late. I do not have idle time during the day to fuck and get massages.
Id much rather go upstairs and pay the room 400-500 b. If I'm not in the mood for a bar then I'd go online and hit TF.
That said I much prefer to sleep alone. No warm body to make my bed even hotter in this climate, no one to wake me up when they move, no worries about getting anything stolen, not having to wake up a reluctant bg. And on top of everything I can save myself 2500 and use that money to bang a different one next day.I'm with you brother Intrepid. Feel sorry for those that have not control over their schedule like I do. If I want to goto Soi 6 in the morning when it opens I can. If I want to hit a Gentleman's Club in the afternoon I can. If I want get a massage in the morning, have lunch and then get one in the afternoon I can. If I want to start in the early evening and grab one off Beach Road (and I even have regulars there) and do them in the short time room I can. Feels good to be a free man!.
I do not want a stranger in my bed night after night. I don't even like strangers in my inner space. To the point I am considering renting or buying a fuck room so I don't have to have strangers in my space. Not a matter of worrying about theft. I just like my privacy. For me Thai Friendly is for when I am being lazy and don't want to go out into the real world. If I want to fuck at 0200 I can and they are going to arrive quickly, deliver themselves to my door, provide their services and roll out. I also get pick my price point (500 - 4000 THB). Holla!.
Like you, I never understood the need to pay my employee to sleep unless you are one of those guys that have to get their morning nut before they start the day. I have to admit, that morning nut can be a quality nut, but I prefer to do that with a regular girl that I know and I have decided to give the honor of being allowed to enter my inner circle.
I can confirm that. You would never know so many Uzbek chicks are in Pattaya until you step inside of those Indian discos.Hi Friend,
I too heard from my friend that many Uzbek, Russian and eastern europian chicks are available in pattaya but I don't know the place where we can meet these chicks.
Any information on this will be helpful.
Thanks.
Viv.
Banana Boi
09-01-24, 06:05
I too heard from my friend that many Uzbek, Russian and eastern europian chicks are available in pattaya but I don't know the place where we can meet these chicks.
Any information on this will be helpful.Follow all the other Indians on Walking Street. Walk from South Pattaya Road. When you no longer see Koreans and Japanese and see 100's of Indians you know you found the right area.
Mr Enternational
09-01-24, 07:20
Follow all the other Indians on Walking Street. Walk from South Pattaya Road. When you no longer see Koreans and Japanese and see 100's of Indians you know you found the right area.Or go Soi 16 from Second Road. There is one on the left corner at Walking Street and another being built on the right corner. Turn left or right and there are several within 100 meters in either direction.
Used to give her 1000 baht per night as all, before I moved the salary up to $1200 baht / night.Wow, that's one hell of a salary increase Mr. E, from 1000 baht to 1200 USD. You are a good employer. Have any vacancies?
Mr Enternational
09-01-24, 09:22
Wow, that's one hell of a salary increase Mr. E, from 1000 baht to 1200 USD. You are a good employer. Have any vacancies?LOL. I did not do that. That was ISG's world famous auto-correct. Yesterday I wrote "hoes" and when the report posted it came out as girls.
"Damn man, leave us some form of relief to get these girls".
And remember sometimes it even posts some people's reports under other people's names.
Mr Enternational
09-01-24, 09:49
Once again my yearly rant on perspective. Thailand is not back home. Chick from last night is a farmer from Buriram as 99% of the other chicks in Pattaya are farmers from the same region. She grows rice and sugar cane. She came to Pattaya a couple of days ago because the crop is ruined from flooding. I asked her how much she makes each year from farming. She said depends if it is a good year or bad year. I told her tell me about a good year. She said for the year she is able to grow and sell 200 tons of sugar cane and is able to earn 30,000 baht for it after expenses. I said what about the rice? She said they keep the rice to eat.
Years ago I learned a rice farmer makes about US $1200 per year which today would be 40,000 baht. So in the chick from last night's case 30,000 baht per year is 2,500 baht per month. I was thinking shit, I just pulled 30,000 out of the ATM this afternoon.
The numbers speak for themselves. Bars in Pattaya charging a barfine of what these chicks would make all month back home. It must blow some of these chicks' minds when they hear people are giving away money like this. No wonder they come running out of Esarn to Farang Holiday Land. This is exactly why I am able to get chicks Long Time for 1200 baht. When chicks are not jaded, they know 1200 baht for 1 night is actually a lot of fucking money in Thailand when they could be home getting only double that for the entire month.
Once again I like to mention a girl I met on Walking Street years ago who said if someone was to give her 10,000 baht per month, she could go home and not have to do this shit. When I dropped the girl off this afternoon at her room in Jomtien, I asked her how much she was paying for the room and she said 3,000 baht per month.
Pimpampoumpipo
09-01-24, 12:37
According to my notes taken on site from day 9 to day 12 Google Translate french to english (with a little correction anyway)
Day 9:
Girl of the day (30 years old): met at a Gogo bar. Beautiful plant a little thin for my standard tastes but well built all the same. I buy her a LD every time I go there, that is to say every day. Came to see me on her day off in my room around 2:30 pm Brown pussy. She had a child, honestly you wouldn't believe it. Good fuck in 30 minutes, that's more than enough. After 20 minutes of fucking everyone gets bored. 2000 be already agreed from the gogo. Nice and participative. Lives in Pattaya with her kid, she juggles between her schedule (end at 4 am) and the start and end times of school. All alone to take care of him, her mother died so no one to help her. I've already met a girl like that. This is the life of those who have no one in the village to help educate their children. Honestly, hats off to them, they are deserving and courageous. Shouldn't think that the life of bar girls is easy in general. Took me on a scooter to Tree Town.
Day 10:
Girl of the day (23 years old): Thaifriendly. All started with a stand me up, the little girl from LK Metro who told me she would come at 2 pm didn't come. I had anticipated a bit and I started looking on TF for a new plan and made 1 or 2 contacts. At 2 pm I asked one of them to come to my room right away. She told me she needed 1 hour, I said it was too much, finally I told her ok, then it rained she told me "I can't come it's raining", the rain stopped after 15 minutes she arrived at 3:15 pm, I was really hot. Cute, nice ass, nice heavy and natural breasts, very slightly destroyed belly (cesarean) but really good. Cunnilingus, 69 with fingers everywhere, missionary and finish in her very nice ass. 1100 + 100 tip. In addition to being practical, having a nice range, you can find good cheap deals on Thaifriendly. You just have to try not to make too many mistakes when choosing on the site. I'm working on my reading grid of the ads.
Day 11:
Girl of the day (30 years old): Thaifriendly. Not too complicated to go out with Thaifriendly, there are people. The whole difficulty for me is to find the right balance between making an appointment well in advance to prepare (them and me) but not too early either because otherwise there are cancellations, the little Thai girls generally having difficulty planning beyond 2 hours. Pretty 30 year old girl, keeps physically fit by doing sports and it shows, really well built, supple and firm body. I ate her pussy, she couldn't take it anymore. Then 69 (so pussy devoured again), missionary and happy ending in doggy style. 1000 + 200 tips. I think that for the quality it's really a good price. Offered me to come in fine lingerie next time.
Day 12:
Girl of the day (24 years old): Thaifriendly. Another 2 appointments with Thayfriendly made the day before that failed. In addition they don't even warn that they won't come. I don't care if they don't come but at least they should warn ! I had to make another appointment at the last minute. Fortunately I was able to with Thaifriendly. Thaifriendly is my new friend, I love it, it's normal love is always like that at the beginning. That's also how I will use him from now on, for an appointment within 2 hours maximum. No need to waste time planning even just 24 hours in advance. It's not easy for me because I'm someone who likes to plan ahead. I'm learning how to use it, I'm still in the running-in period but it's a nice little machine anyway. Pretty girl contacted at 1:15 pm, at 2 pm She was at my place. Quite tall (170 cms) at least for me, curves but not big, exactly how I like it. Very pretty face. She had 2 of tension but I liked her little cries when I ate her pussy. Classic: 69, missionary, nice hips and ass seen from doggy style. 1000 + 200 tip.
Mr Enternational
09-01-24, 13:28
Another 2 appointments with Thayfriendly made the day before that failed. In addition they don't even warn that they won't come. I don't care if they don't come but at least they should warn ! I had to make another appointment at the last minute. I keep telling you guys that fucking with these chicks is like herding cats. And some guys want to make plans with them to go on boats and shit. Only when they are right in front of your face and you plan to go at that very moment.
You see first hand why trying to arrange chicks before you are boots on the ground is a waste of time. Arrangements made 1 day ahead of time do not even work.
HorseTrader
09-01-24, 16:35
You see first hand why trying to arrange chicks before you are boots on the ground is a waste of time. Arrangements made 1 day ahead of time do not even work.Even 5 hours advanced booking of a hooker is too much. Suppose it's noon and you schedule for 5 pm, she will inevitably have another customer call and want 4 pm so she will try to reschedule you or maybe just ghost you. I now set these up just 1 or 2 hours before I want her to walk through the door.
About the only prep you can do is add the appealing girls to your TF favorites list.
Years ago I learned a rice farmer makes about US $1200 per year which today would be 40,000 baht. So in the chick from last night's case 30,000 baht per year is 2,500 baht per month. I was thinking shit, I just pulled 30,000 out of the ATM this afternoon.The first time I came to Thailand, about 20 years ago, I barfined a girl from an agogo in Soi Cowboy. She said she was hungry so on the way to my hotel I bought some food and drinks for the both of us from a food cart, somewhere along Sukhumvit Road. I had to pay something like 60 or 70 baht IIRC.
When she heard that her jaw dropped, and she looked astonished. She told me that in her hometown, somewhere far north in Isan, she would have to pay only 6 or 7 baht for the same food and drinks.
Does not matter what a girl makes farming in Buriram Has absolutely nothing to do with the pussy market in Pattaya. She is not farming in Buriram when she comers to Pattaya and therefore the market for earnings changes. Those who understand markets do not make such asinine comparisons.
She is a prostituting herself in Pattaya. The market for prostitues is different than the one from farmers. Add to the fact that the location is different and anyone making that analogy has failed to compare apples to apples and oranges to origins. The proper comparison is how much money she would make if she prostituted herself in Buriram.
This is why wage slaves usually continue to be wage slaves. Because they do not understand capital markets, investment of capital, overhead expenses and salaries. They have never had to make a payroll. They have never live without the teat of the employer in their mouth every week, two weeks or month.
It makes absolutely zero sense to expect a farmer to come to Pattaya to prostitute herself for the same money she makes in Buriram. There is a difference between perception and perspective. Someone can provide a narrow perception of the situation that completely misses the true perspective in the bigger picture. I have shown beyond a reasonable doubt the perception that girl who is a Farmer in Buriram should be paid the same as Prostitute in Pattaya. This perspective is in error and I have provided the true perception.
Here is an example that should hit home: I was just at the food court right next to the Bus Bar. I paid 100 THB for French Fries. I could have paid 50 THB for the same French Fries in Jomtien where I stay on occasion. Same exact good. What justifies the price difference? Those who understand business immediately know. For those who do not I will leave it for them to figure out. A little homework to increase knowledge never hurt anyone.
I've read that some hang out in the Indian discos but never been in them so can't confirm.As an Indian who's been to a couple of these Indian discos, can confirm!
Was there in mid August this year, and picked up one Uzbek girl for 3500 LT.
Soon on my way to Pattaya.
How is the situation with the Russian girls at the strip joint? I was working my ass off to get one of the girls for ST 10 years ago... Is it still possible? And what is price now?
Follow all the other Indians on Walking Street. Walk from South Pattaya Road. When you no longer see Koreans and Japanese and see 100's of Indians you know you found the right area.
Been making appointments with girls from Thai Friendly for over a year now. Only had one not show up. Let me repeat that: I have only had one girl from Thai Friendly not show up!.
Just finished out 10 days in Thailand. Spent 5 days in Bangkok and 5 in Pattaya. Hoping this detailed report will be useful to others traveling out this way. I'm posting in both the Bangkok and Pattaya threads.
Just by way of quick background, I'm from NYC and frequent a lot of the agencies there that have young Japanese girls working, so that was sorta my reference point for this trip. Now that I've mongered abroad, I'm starting to realize how good we have it in NYC as far as quality and service goes, although it is expensive. My report on the 10 days spent in Thailand is as follows:
Bangkok:
La belle: Tried this place on my last day as I wanted to experience one of Bangkok's famous "entertainment complexes". The place is basically a hotel but for hookers and massage LOL. Big lobby when you walk in where customers can sit and drink. Girls are up on a stage and seated near the bar as well. Every girl had a different ranking / price with the lower end being about $3 k baht for 90 minutes while upper end was 6-8 k. Most of the pricier girls had a more East Asian look with pale skin, and a few that I talked to said they were in fact mixed Thai / Chinese. I ended up doing a double here for under 10 k baht. Fun times but I do think you will find younger, cuter and less seasoned girls working at the gogo bars. You will also be able to get extras at the gogos like BBFS and video if that's your thing. I doubt these upgrades are on the table at soapy massage joints. I will also note that they don't have air mats at La Belle, which sorta sucks. You will get a nice soapy massage in the tub but they can't really do nuru. Still, this place was an experience, had around 30 girls available when I went during the afternoon, and there was way less BS to deal with compared to gogo. Good prices too.
Dozo Massage: Went here on my first day and I was so exhausted from the 20 hour flight I almost fell asleep during the mat play LOL. Similar experience to La belle but fewer girls and smaller venue. Not very GFE but the Mat play and nuru were pretty good, think I spent about it 6-8 k for 60 minutes. Tried to come back here on my last night but they only had 3 girls available so I bailed. I would recommend the place. Girls were hot and the soapy massage plus mat play was pretty damn good. But I think you're better off going early in the day. Seemed kinda dead when I went at night. During my first visit I went in the afternoon and they gave me a lineup of maybe 6-7 girls.
Aya Massage: This place was good bang for buck. Did 60 minutes nuru with a fairly hot girl, probably late 20's early 30's. Price was quite low at just 5 k baht for nuru and VIP room. Not my most memorable experience and again, no air mat for nuru. But if you're looking for some low cost fun, it's a good option. They gave me a lineup of at least 20 girls. A few of their girls were hot and young, some less so. It's a mid tier spot.
Kings Castle 1: Best gogo bar I went to in PatPong. I never would have found this spot on my own. But I was fortunate enough to meet another American at one of the gogo bars who had spent 6 months living in Bangkok. He took me to patpong one night and we ended up at this place. They have hot young girls and I took home a gem. One of my favorite girls of the trip. Young, slim and cute with braces, no tattoos, perfect tits and a tight ass. Wanted her to stay for overnight but she had class in the AM haha. Paid 5 k for ST plus 2 k tip to creampie her.
Baccara: The only place on Soi Cowboy that I found was worth my time. My newfound expat buddy mentioned above introduced me to the place during my first or second night in Bangkok. They had some hot young girls working, but overall I found quality was much better in Nana Plaza. The main thing I liked about Baccara was it had a good vibe. All girls wore short skirts without panties and the bar right in front of the stage was a mirror hehe. Also, if you're on the first floor and look up, you can see through the stage on the second floor where more girls are dancing. Just tons of good upskirt action (seemed to be the theme at this place) and pretty fun putting these no panty girls on your lap after buying them a drink. Some girls will let you get a nice handful of bare ass and pussy LOL. The management was pretty chill too and wouldn't squeeze too hard on drinks.
Private 69: Smaller place on Nana plazas second floor but it had some hot young girls. I found a real gem here who I did long time with. Cost for long time was 8 k total including drinks. We vibed well and she was a hot young mixed Chinese / Thai girl, so I brought her along with me for part of the vacation. Banged her at least 5 times.
Rainbow 5: this was the bar where I met that other American and he told me that Rainbow 5 is the best spot in Nana. It just might be. ST barfine 5 k total and girls were young and hot. Long time was maybe around 8 k. Most of the clientele here was Asian and that's how you know the pussy is good. It's the same at the NYC agencies haha. I was one of the few white guys in that bar.
Billboard: I brought a pretty fun young girl home from here on the first night. Honestly forget what the barfine was, I want to say it was around 5 k for ST. Quality seemed pretty good overall. But when I went back later in the trip I didn't see many girls that caught my eye. Not enough college cuties here for my taste haha.
Shark / Afterskool: Located in soi cowboy, both places were duds for me. One of them (I forget which) really fucking annoyed me because they had cute young girls out front and on the stage but you couldn't barfine any of them. I bought drinks for 2 or 3 different girls before I was told you can't barfine any girls whose number started with a 5. Well, all the hot young girls had a number that started with 5 LOL. I told the two girls I was drinking with that the place was a waste of time, then paid my tab and walked the F out. Before I left they tried to show me one of the girls you could barfine and well. Not good LOL. Hard pass.
Pattaya:
Pinup: Probably the best bar on walking street in terms of quality of girls. Many cute young college girls. However they will milk the ever living shit out of you on drinks and the barfine is high. ST here was around 7 k all in and long time was slightly over 10 k. Compare that to Bangkok where the going rate is 4-5 k for short and 7. 5 for long. They also have some bullshit rule where if you want to barfine a girl, you need to buy an additional 5 drinks, so add another 1,000 baht. I recall I barfined a girl here and bought the 5 drinks for her so we could leave. She didn't even drink them. If you want to feel out a few different ladies, you will drop an easy 1. 5 k on drinks here. They also have different prices for different girls with some being assigned "model" designation and given a higher rate.
XS: Comparable quality to Pin up. I barfined some young hotties from here. Price slightly lower than Pin up and the vibe was a bit better too. Think I took home 2 or 3 girls from this bar. They had the same BS rule about buying 5 drinks before you barfined the girl. I told MMS to her face that "you guys really milk the tourist money here in Pattaya. " She got all pissy with me over that and told me to go back to Bangkok LOL. I did still buy the 5 drinks for the girl I wanted to barfine. She downed 5 tequilas then puked when I brought her back to my hotel. Thanks MMS. Stupid fucking rule. Just greedy BS. Anyways, moving on.
Opium: Pretty good but a rung below XS and pinup in terms of quality. I brought home one girl from this place and she was hot but attitude / service wasn't great. Mid to late 20's Chinese looking chick.
LK Metro area: I went here one night and it wasn't good. Girls weren't very hot and clearly older. Many bars had girls who were topeless or fully nude, which was nice. However, the hottest and youngest girls never go topless let alone fully nude. I bailed on LK after I walked the street and popped into a few different bars. Found the quality on walking street to be much better. Even the soi 6 cheapie girls looked better than most of the LK metro ladies. I'the heard that it was a hot spot, so maybe I just had bad timing.
Soi 6: I walked this street 2-3 times and checked out a few bars I can't rember the name of, but didn't fuck any girls here. Prices were very low compared to walking street. Girls would do ST for just 1,500 baht, others were asking for closer to 4 K. Quality was lower here IMO and girls were more high volume. It's also more of an incall experience since you just take them upstairs to fuck, rather than going back to your hotel. Not really my thing and I'the rather pay a bit more for the high end stuff. Still a fun experience just to walk the street and have the girls grab at you though.
General thoughts:
I liked Bangkok more than Pattaya. There's more to do there besides just mongering and the food is better. But also girls are just as hot IMO. Prices are much fairer, as Pattaya is upcharging hard for tourists on walking street. Not only are Bangkok prices better and girls just as good, but the bars are chiller and don't milk as hard in drinks. Pattaya also has some bullshit rule where if you want to pull a girl off the stage, you need to buy her 5 drinks. Otherwise you wait for her to finish dancing, which can take 15 minutes. This wasted a lot of time IMO and I didn't like having to sit around waiting. What I started doing in Pattaya just to move shit along was I would pick two girls at a time and buy both drinks. Then if neither were good, get another two when there was a new rotation. Feel out both girls and maybe one was good enough for barfine. Bangkok bars on the other hand let you pull the girl (or girls) you wanted right off stage with no wait time. This felt more organic IMO and meant less time was wasted. If I returned to Thailand one day, idk that I'd go to Pattaya again. Probably Bangkok and Phuket.
Prices were a bit higher than I expected. Don't get me wrong, it's still cheaper than the USA But it's not quite the cheap pussy paradise people make it out to be. Maybe it was 10 years ago, but no longer. I probably paid about 7 k baht all in on average to barfine chicks for ST. That's not much cheaper than NYC girls. Plus you've got hotel and airfare to pay. You can fuck Japanese college girls in Manhattan for about $240 for 30 minutes, so at a certain point coming to Thailand for mongering doesn't make a ton of sense when you factor in time, convenience and other expenses on top of 5-7 k baht ST barfine. The Japanese girls in NY are also just higher quality overall IMO. Obviously it's an experience to come here, but just food for thought. I'm glad I came when I did because in another 10 years it really may not make much sense anymore in terms of cost.
I liked the gogo bar system, but it's not perfect. I am on the younger side and in decent shape, so was able to barfine most of the girls I wanted. I did run into a few of the so called "coyotes" who are basically the very hot and very young girls (the type I was after) who just don't do barfine and instead will milk customers for drinks. My first few days in Bangkok I loved the gogo bars and thought they were fun as shit. But towards the end of the trip I started to grow tired of the mating ritual and my luck started to run out. I found most of the best bar girls early on in my trip. I also ran into some trouble towards the end because I had barfined many girls from the same bars, and the girls there clearly starting to know me and talk about me amongst each other. While I don't really give a shit if the girls talk, I felt this made it harder to barfine new girls at a certain point. The girls and the management have remarkably good memories at these places, and they are watching you closely. One girl I bought a drink for at Private 69 remembered seeing me in there a week prior, remembered which girl I had barfined and even remembered where I had sat. I had never met this girl until I bought her drink, but apparently she knew me. No issues like this at the soapy massage places, it was a more straightforward service there. I didn't play with any freelancers during my trip but I imagine it's more straightforward with those ladies as well.
I will also say I noticed that a lot of guys seemed to go to these gogo bars to just drink and hang out. My approach was very different. I was not going to gogo bars to hang out, I was going to barfine hot young girls. I would get bored after hanging out there for more than 40 minutes. Most of the girls don't really even dance on stage so it's not that entertaining. If I didn't see girls I wanted to fuck, I would leave immediately and go to another bar. I was like a man on a mission and was trying to move fast so I could potentially fuck two girls a night. This was harder in Pattaya since they forced you to sit around and wait for the girls to get off stage. I would also change girls real fast if I bought them drinks and didn't like their vibe or their look. I do think that my overall approach rubbed the girls and the staff the wrong way on a few occasions, and maybe gogos weren't a great fit for my style. Maybe they are just used to customers who like to waste time and spend money on overpriced drinks. I don't even drink alcohol BTW, which they occasionally teased me over. Again I really was just there for the pussy LOL.
Hotels:
Bangkok I stayed at S15 and The Landmark. I would recommend both. S15 a bit cheaper with good central location in between Nana and cowboy. Landmark was much fancier and right next to nana plaza.
Pattaya I stayed at Aya boutique hotel. It was good for bringing girls back since it's so close to walking street, but the hotel wasn't very nice. It looked better online IMO. Also did a night at the Arbour hotel which was much nicer, but sorta far from the action. Can't really recommend either.
All hotels were girl friendly.
Overall a fun trip and I would potentially go back one day. Enjoyed the pussy and the food was pretty good too. Cheers guys. Sorry for the long post!
Mr Enternational
09-02-24, 03:16
How is the situation with the Russian girls at the strip joint? I was working my ass off to get one of the girls for ST 10 years ago... Is it still possible? And what is price now?I think other people that have gone to those ripoff places report they want 10,000 baht.
Mr Enternational
09-02-24, 12:30
If you go to Soi Chaiyapoon, you would be hard-pressed to find a bar that didn't have Laotians or Cambodians. But they don't walk around with placards advertising their nationality. And they will speak Thai.
The difference between a Laotians and a girl from Isaan is like the difference between someone from South Dakota and North Dakota.Here is a Laos bone from Thai Friendly. Last night there was also a Filipina chick on there talking about she is in town freelancing but she charges more than Thai hookers. Do not know what her price was but it is not like I have not been to PI 1 million times, so she is no delicacy for me. If she comes here, she is getting the same payment as the locals.
EverythingThai
09-02-24, 13:02
I don't give a fuck about a bar owner. I am a consumer. My job is to get the most value for my money. If a bar owner cannot figure out a system to make money with their bar the the rules of capitalism says they should go bankrupt. That space can be used by someone who understands the market better and produced profit.
Why all this concern for bar owners? I don't get it. Just because others posting up in her are friends with bar owners and get special benefits, therefore they shill for bar owners. I am not one of those people. I see the motivation of those people. And I don't pay attention to what those people have to say about the poor bar owners. Nah, I don't give a fuck about a bar owner. Anyone who does not own a bar shouldn't either. Unless they are comfortable giving their money to a business that does not deserve it. I have decided to reply to all your posts about be and the ones indirectly all in one shot. After which, I won't comment again and will just continue posting my reports. Nobody here really cares about a bar owner. either. People are only saying that if a customer complains about the bar fine, complains about buying lady drinks, then it's common sense that they will not go to that bar. Then, said bar will not have customers and close. If any bar in Pattaya does not sell drinks, they will go broke and close. Bars have many different revenue streams in Pattaya as follows:
1. Customer drinks.
2. Lady drinks.
3. Short time room for customers inside the bar.
4 Bar fine for the customer to take the lady outside the bar. ST and LT.
Eliminate 2 and 4 and the bar will close. There is no girly bar that can pay rent, salary for every girl, a salary for a manager, commission for the agency to find the ladies to work in the bar, and drink commissions or bonus's for the girls if 2 and 4 are eliminated. Then on top of all that, you want to take the girl out of the bar before 9 PM and only pay a 500 baht bar fine. Then you will see Soi 6 bars at midnight with no girls. This business model just does not work. Them what?
No more bars on soi 6 for us.
Conclusion? The type of customers need to be balanced. That way the bar makes money, the girls make money and all the customers are happy. How to keep every customer happy? Bring the bar fine down to 1000 baht right across the board no matter what time it is. Make sure the managers don't make their own rules, such as a minimum lady drink order if you want to bar fine LT. It would be much better to just say, no girls can bar fine LT.
As for that guy that got scammed at MOD bar, I don't condone that, but if none of the girls are making their drink quotas, they need to stay in the bar. Therefore, the girls and the managers pretend there is a minimum lady drink order required for all LT bar fines. Or the lady will quote a very high LT rate. It's the game. They do it because they don't really want to go or the bar does not want them to go. However, it would be much better if they said just a simple 'no" I can't go because I need to make my drink quota first. End of story. Then the customer can decide if they will buy the drinks or just walk away. Now, back to that guy. He fell for their game at Mod's bar. Did he lose his shirt? No. Was the scam so outrageous that it deserved the response that he gave? No it was not. However, that's my opinion. His and yours are different. So be it! We have all been there at one point in time or another. In the past, I was scammed into buying lady drinks and then told by the girl she only works for drinks. After that, I ask every time if they bar fine. Then no period stories and so on. If I forget to ask, it's my own fault, not the bar.
End of story.
In Pattaya, we will always have the guys who pay more and the guys who pay less, In reality, it should all balance out in the end. My two cents worth.
ON a side note, you really need to relax mate. When we give our opinions on here, such as beach road girls are all crack hoes, it's our opinion. I will never go with a beach road girl or fuck one, even with your dick. Thats just me. If you want to go, that's your business. I won't. Do I care that you will go? No!. But I am free to say why I won't go and I am free to warn others just like you are free to say that you feel these beach road girls are ok. I have clients who have been royally fucked over by these girls. Therefore, I am not just blowing smoke. Anyways, I humbly request you not to be so antagonistic in your reports. I do love your reports though once I weed out the other nonsense.
About my reports, I don't focus on the price. Why? Because we all know where that leads right. I focus on the quality of service and the talent. I may or may not mention what I paid. I focus on my strategy. Then the guys can gauge the ladies and the bar based on experience and whether or not the girls give good service and what type of service is available and if they are hot or not.
Now, If you decide to copy and paste bits and pieces of what I say and quote me out of context, so be it. I really don't care. I will continue to report in my own way just as you will probably continue to report in your own way. However, know this. It's not a competition. Some guys will appreciate our reports and some will skip over them.
Just like Pattaya has many options for everyone, so does this forum.
Peace out.
EverythingThai
09-02-24, 16:04
Another 2 appointments with Thayfriendly made the day before that failed. In addition they don't even warn that they won't come. I don't care if they don't come but at least they should warn ! My perspective on Pattaya FLs not showing up for an appointment. If you make an appointment in advance of the day, consider it tentative until you confirm the day of. Better yet, get on TF the morning of and contact your short list of girls. The first one that agrees to meet is your target. Wait! You need a back up. Wait! What if you schedule one in and a better one confirms after? Wait! What if the night before you have a great time with your LT over night and decide it's better to keep her then go with your appointment? Wait! What if you meet a farm fresh newbie working part time at 7/11 that you can fuck for free? Then what do you do with your scheduled appointment? Wait! What if your scheduled girl met another punter the night before that wants to keep her for the week for 25 K baht?
I think you get the point right. In Pattaya, don't plan anything! Go with the flow. Sometimes plans work out and sometimes they don't. Just like Sub, I too have never had a lady cancel on me. Why? Because I don't make any plans. I log onto Thai Friendly with my premium account or dive into to my 1000 and growing Thai lady line ID collection, choose a girl, make the plan to come to my condo immediately meaning as soon as we finish chatting she comes right over and that's it.
EverythingThai
09-02-24, 16:17
The two Korean live streamers who seem to come to Soi 6 every day.
Useless parasites who think they are important because pretty girls pay attention to them.
One day, I will grab their camera and start running. They won't be able to catch me.Look on the bright side. While they are in the bar buying drinks, they aren't walking up and down the soi filming everyone. The girl on the left is a little fire cracker though. She was just my style too when I fucked her 6 months ago.
EverythingThai
09-02-24, 16:33
Which bars are the Laos girls working at?The Laos girls mostly work in Soi 6. Why? Because it is very easy for them to blend in. You probably have seen many on the 6, but didn't realize it because you thought they were Thai. I have been here for 15 years and I can normally tell the difference in their look and accent when they speak. You will also find them on TF as well. Some may say Laos right on their profiles, but most won't. Why? Because many are on overstay or they are working illegally. I myself have a long list of Laos girls in my mongering line. Yes, I actually have a line completely designated for mongering separate from my work line and personal line. Then I have another message thread where I send their contacts to myself and add and delete and replace them from my mongering line from there. I am up to about 200 or so Laos girls out of the 1000 plus line contacts I have from over the years. Some ideas for you that have always worked for me are as follows:
1. Hidden amongst the Thai girls in Soi 6. Some bars have 50% Laos girls, but you will never know unless you press it. They will lie to you, as they are working illegally.
2. TF in Pattaya or BKK.
3. Laos girl use WeChat so look in the people nearby feature and there country of origin is actually listed on their profile. I find many like this.
4. They go to the clubs on WS if they are legal.
5. Many are woking in Myth bar complex mixed in with the Thai girls, same as in Soi 6.
6. They work in the street food markets serving food because they get their MOU from the shop owner. Pick them up there and take them out after work.
7. Many work in salons and nail shops. Same as above number 6.
8. Tinder in Bangkok or Pattaya.
9. Tinder passport to Vientiane Laos as they often show a location in Laos, even when they are in Thailand. Or they will be coming soon, so you can make the plan with them.
10. TF search in Vientiane Laos as they often show a location in Laos, even when they are in Thailand. Or they will be coming soon so you can make a plan to meet them in TH.
Why do I know this? I love Laos girls. I go to Laos every chance I get. Why do I love these girls? They appreciate everything you give them and never complain. They never insist on condoms with me. They generally have whiter skin, which is what I prefer. Believe it or not with all the mongering I do, I also have a live in Laos GF that works in a nail salon who is 22. I am 54. She sleeps at work above the shop and only comes home on her days off. Get the point?
Hope this helps mate.
Not the girls, but the girls who are not hookers.
Used to give her 1000 baht per night as all, before I moved the salary up to $1200 baht / night. Matter of fact, a chick is on the way over now.
I had a bad scare the other night. Met a chick on TF who was beautiful. I went to pick her up and she looked straight drugged the fuck out. I was wondering why she kept telling me to bring 350 baht when I come pick her up. I saw her and said no thanks and drove the fuck off. Her pictures had to be before she got on that shit.
The TF chick coming now, I did meet in person 2 nights ago. Then I left that bird in hand chasing after what turned out to be a crackhead in the Bush.Salary increase? Good to know for other girls if they're reading ISG that such possibilities exist, I guess. Will motivate them to go that extra mile.
From bird in the hand to chasing a crackhead in the Bush. I had to literary LOL at that one.
Nobody here really cares about a bar owner. either. Good to hear.
As for that guy that got scammed at MOD bar, I don't condone that, Good to hear.
In the past, I was scammed into buying lady drinks and then told by the girl she only works for drinks. After that, I ask every time if they bar fine. High quality information gleaned from experience. Thank you for sharing.
The only time I have been a little irritated by Lady Drink bill is when I went to the Kit Kat Lounge in Jomtien. Had a lady sit down with me that didn't want to goto the room because of her period. STRIKE ONE! Then had another lady sit down and didn't want to goto the room because she had an appointment on the way. STRIKE TWO. So I told the girl, I was pissed. She told me to wait she would find a girl that would goto the room. She came back with a girl that met my approval and they sat next to me and did the the clothed threesome thing on the couch both grinding and kissing on me until I could not stand it anymore so I took my girl up to the room. So, I was irritated. But it did not keep me from getting my nut. I still got out of there for less than 2000 THB. And the girl commented on my size. She said it was good. Don't hate on the you know what gentleman.
Never wrote it up. I don't like writing about my experiences here in Pattaya Reports because quality information gets lost in the general back and forth nonsense and personal vendettas.
In Pattaya, we will always have
the guys who pay more and the guys who pay less, In reality, it should all balance out in the end. My two cents worth.My opinion is that when posting about prices here in Pattaya or anywhere else in ISG comments directed at the individual posting the information because of price itself are inappropriate. This is different from advising people on the range of amounts someone has experience paying for something in a particular venue. My two THB worth!.
Pimpampoumpipo
09-03-24, 12:06
Day 13 :
The first question I ask now, and no matter where, after saying "Hello" and juste before to ask "how much ? " is "you boom boom ? " with a smile of course. They understand perfectly the meaning of the question. It may be a bit direct but we are in Pattaya and neither the girls nor I want to waste our time.
Girl of the day (42 years old): Soi Buakhaow bar. I've been seeing her in this bar for at least a year, I had never paid attention to her. And then the day before yesterday I saw her in a super tight mini dress. She instantly turned me on. Looks her age, little chuby but just right, pretty face. So I made an appointment for the day after tomorrow in my room. No problem getting her to give me her Line. Regular messages during these 2 days, she seemed worried that this date was a fake. And then there was this deluge last night when she was supposed to go home with floods in the streets. I suggested she come and spend the night at my place but she took a while to answer me and I fell asleep in the meantime. Too bad because she agreed but I didn't see her reply until I woke up this morning.
I fantasized about her for 2 days. Arrived today, at first I didn't recognize her because she seemed so cute. It's incredible how you can be attracted to someone in a completely irrational way. An effect of pheronomes? I devoured her pussy, for a long, long time, I literally drank her pussy (hoping that Gabacho hadn't been there before). 69, missionary, doggy style and ejaculation, the usual program but with a high degree of excitement. We lay down next to each other while usually I try to get rid of girls ASAP. 10 minutes later I get hard again, I take a condom again telling myself that I'm going to penetrate her a little for fun, nothing more. Except that I was still excited and I came a second time. It hadn't happened to me for years. Like what libido is first and foremost in the head. 1200 + 300 tip.
EverythingThai
09-03-24, 15:31
But then bar and mamasan managers should be able to let girls give their Line if they want to meet customers outside of bar hours. Why don't they? They need to get another business plan or everyone will go to Thaifriendly. I have never went into a bar on soi 6, bought a few drinks for a girl without bar fining her and then been refused a line ID or the contact of the girl by any manager or momason. However, I suspect if one went inside the bar and started talking to a lady and then asked for her contact details with the intention of leaving without buying any drinks for you or the lady, then you would most likely be refused or the girl would get shit if she gave her details to you.
EverythingThai
09-03-24, 15:41
Why don't they? They need to get another business plan or everyone will go to Thaifriendly. I am really curious about what business plan a Pattaya bar could have or implement that did not involve alcohol, lady drinks , and bar fines that would make them good money? I think this is one of the silliest comments I have ever read with all due respect. Honestly, I don't mean to be rude, but you don't make any sense. The only business plan in Pattaya that would eliminate selling customer drinks, lady drinks, and bar fines would be to close the bar and open up a massage parlor.
For the Pattaya bars to change their business model, especially on the 6, they would need to make a constant bar fine that is higher than the lowest at 500-700 and lower than the highest I've seen on the 6, which was 2500 before 9PM. Then they would have to make a rule that ST encounters in the bar's ST rooms are available anytime, but no LT bar fines until after midnight. That would be fair I guess. Maybe a constant bar fine of 1000 Baht after midnight. However, there would still be guys complaining about that business model too.
What's the answer in Pattaya? There is no answer. If you want to fuck a girl or play with girls that prefer bar work or freelancing, you have to play the bar game in most circumstances. Thats why the bars still exist. Some guys prefer to drink and have fun with the girls,. They don't mind paying. Others prefer going with FLs, so they do so because its cheaper and maybe they just don't like the bars. The best part about Pattaya is you can change your strategy at anytime and you will have an option.
1. Girls on beach road.
2. FL's on dating apps.
3. G clubs.
4. Beer bars.
5. Go go bars.
6. Massage parlors.
7. Picking up normal girls in central or at their work.
8. KTVs
9. Clubs on walking street
10. Thai clubs
11. Thai gents clubs with the same model as Bangkok. Yes there are some of those in Pattaya too
I know it's your right to complain and post it here, but if I was a tourist, I would not waste anytime while being in Pattaya. I would be out doing 1-11 every night. Choosing a different strategy depending on my mood and budget for that day.
UglyAzzMan
09-03-24, 17:17
The two Korean live streamers who seem to come to Soi 6 every day.
Useless parasites who think they are important because pretty girls pay attention to them.
One day, I will grab their camera and start running. They won't be able to catch me.The guy on the right Banned me when I told him to buy more drinks bro.
The guy on the left is one of those high spending Koreans we hear about. Drinks only.
UglyAzzMan
09-03-24, 17:53
In my las vegas suite overlooking the Stip. $90 at noight.
Watching Zondo41 at Annie Jack's interview multiple employess. Boy they all Borderline Ugly.
I devoured her pussy, for a long, long time, I literally drank her pussy (hoping that Gabacho hadn't been there before). 69, missionary, doggy style and ejaculation, the usual program but with a high degree of excitement. We lay down next to each other while usually I try to get rid of girls ASAP. 10 minutes later I get hard again, I take a condom again telling myself that I'm going to penetrate her a little for fun, nothing more. Except that I was still excited and I came a second time. It hadn't happened to me for years. Like what libido is first and foremost in the head. 1200 + 300 tip.Yeah bro, I splooged all up inside her punani. I dropped one of my intensely large sunflower lecithin / pygeum loads inside of her no condom. How does it feel to know you were lapping up my cum?8203; Sounds like you enjoyed it brother. Cheers!
Pimpampoumpipo
09-04-24, 12:21
I am really curious about what....You didn't understand anything. Completely off topic.
Next time avoid reading my posts, move on and keep your long and uninteresting thoughts to yourself. You're wasting your time I don't read them, they bore me.
EverythingThai
09-04-24, 14:43
You didn't understand anything. Completely off topic.
Next time avoid reading my posts, move on and keep your long and uninteresting thoughts to yourself. You're wasting your time I don't read them, they bore me.I apologize if I put you on the spot. I think you can't answer my questions because there is no possible right answer from you, no problem then. If you see where I quoted you regarding your posts about Pattaya, my questions and comments were very clear and not off topic. The fact is that there is no business plan that a Pattaya bar could have that would allow them to make money that would also make you happy and not want to go to Thai Friendly.
As for letting the girls working in Pattaya bars give their contact details out freely to customers that refuse to bar fine so they can hook up later, and save the bar fine I say to you that most guys don't have an issue with getting contact details. Why? because they buy drinks while they are there. Then casually exchange contacts with the lady and go. Then on another random day they make a plan to meet outside the bar.
However, there is no incentive for the bars to allow this and there is no alternative business plan that they could implement that would allow them to make you money and make you happy at the same time I think..................................
Therefore, Thai Friendly is there for you. I don't think Soi 6 is for you mate. IMHO
What's the answer in Pattaya? There is no answer. If you want to fuck a girl or play with girls that prefer bar work or freelancing, you have to play the bar game in most circumstances. Thats why the bars still exist. Some guys prefer to drink and have fun with the girls,. They don't mind paying. Others prefer going with FLs, so they do so because its cheaper and maybe they just don't like the bars. The best part about Pattaya is you can change your strategy at anytime and you will have an option.
1. Girls on beach road.
2. FL's on dating apps.
3. G clubs.
4. Beer bars.
5. Go go bars.
6. Massage parlors.
7. Picking up normal girls in central or at their work.
8. KTVs
9. Clubs on walking street
10. Thai clubs
11. Thai gents clubs with the same model as Bangkok. Yes there are some of those in Pattaya too.In complete agreement with you on this brother. There will NEVER be a case were people interested in hiring prostitutes in Pattaya only do it on Thai Friendly online. The individual that wrote that was suffering from mental or chemical imbalance.
Can you tell me what #8 is?
EverythingThai
09-05-24, 03:30
In complete agreement with you on this brother. There will NEVER be a case were people interested in hiring prostitutes in Pattaya only do it on Thai Friendly online. The individual that wrote that was suffering from mental or chemical imbalance.
Can you tell me what #8 is?Short form for Karaoke Bars.
LittleBigMan
09-05-24, 03:46
In complete agreement with you on this brother. There will NEVER be a case were people interested in hiring prostitutes in Pattaya only do it on Thai Friendly online. The individual that wrote that was suffering from mental or chemical imbalance.
Can you tell me what #8 is?I believe Kareoke bars.
Which club was it?
At Jannat every Uzbek was asking 8-10 k.
As an Indian who's been to a couple of these Indian discos, can confirm!
Was there in mid August this year, and picked up one Uzbek girl for 3500 LT.
Mr Enternational
09-05-24, 04:36
At Jannat every Uzbek was asking 8-10 k.They damn sure do. And the Thais ask 4-5 k. That is why I laugh when people talk about how cheap the brothers from India are. You go inside of those clubs and it is a different story.
As an Indian who's been to a couple of these Indian discos, can confirm!That is what I am talking about. Real boots on the ground reporting!
Was there in mid August this year, and picked up one Uzbek girl for 3500 LT.That is a good price compared to 5000 LT for a top tier Agogo girl.
At Jannat every Uzbek was asking 8-10 k.Are their pussies lined with gold?
Pimpampoumpipo
09-05-24, 12:39
Based on my notes. Translate google french > english (google is your friend)
Day 14:
Girl of the day (30): Gogo bar. The problem with bar girls is that now 2 times out of 3 they either have silicone breasts or they are tattooed, or both. And I hate that. This one has her pretty natural skin and her breasts are not big but very high, she is a very beautiful girl. I had her come back this afternoon. Reliable for appointments. She was supposed to pick up her son at 3:30 pm After school, this may explain that. She was there at 2:00 pm Purple pussy. She was even wetter than last time. Pussy licked and licked. Nice, well put together, nice little ass, I put my fingers everywhere. 2000 B.
Day 15:
Girl of the day (35): Thaifriendly. Chosen a bit haphazardly and again because of a last-minute stand me up : appointment made at 12:30 for 2:00 pm And of course she didn't tell me she wasn't coming. Not pretty, too thin, body and face more like 50 (and even then) and on top of that she was at the end (or beginning) of her period. Bad draw then. But nice and excellent deep blowjob and I felt the tongue in her mouth. Cummed doggy style, not much more to say. 1000 + 200 tip.
Day 16:
Girl of the day (26); Thaifriendly. Already Thaifriendly smartphone works better when you have a network. Yesterday I had some very erratic ones. Appointment made at 12:30 and she arrived at 2:15 pm A bit late because of the 2nd Road works but hey no big deal. Pretty good atmosphere. Well the photos were still advantageous because I saw her arrive more chuby than expected anyway but all that was very firm considering her age. Very pretty little muzzle. A lot of moans like porn personally it's not my thing and in addition she must have had a pain in the pussy because she had a little trouble in doggy style. 1000 + 200 tip.
General opinion on Thaifriendly:
The -: a lot of waste in the contacts, the scourge of missed appointments, I didn't have a subscription so I only contacted the ads that displayed Line, WhatsApp, Instagram, etc. It was just for a few days, the best is to take a subscription (1 month $ 24) very quickly profitable compared to the offers in gogo or in bars. This is probably what I will do on my next visit. Request availability and a time investment to contact.
The +: a lot of girls available throughout the day and I imagine also at night but me at night I sleep. Everything for all ages, all shapes, big, thin, small, tall, beautiful, less beautiful, etc.
The best is not to make an appointment too far in advance. Under 2 hours seems to me to be an acceptable compromise so that everyone can organize themselves, but I was also able to make last-minute appointments without any problems.
Generally not expensive. All the appointments I made were for 1000 + 200 tip. Some requests for 1500 in general that can generally be negotiated. A request for 2000st and 4500 LT without follow-up obviously. The best is to announce in the first messages the price that you are ready to pay.
Good solution if you are there for several days but difficult to implement for a weekend or a short tourist stay.
No toxics comments thank you.
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09-05-24, 13:41
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EverythingThai
09-05-24, 14:14
Based on my notes. Translate google french > english (google is your friend)
Day 14:
Girl of the day (30): Gogo bar. The problem with bar girls is that now 2 times out of 3 they either have silicone breasts or they are tattooed, or both. And I hate that. This one has her pretty natural skin and her breasts are not big but very high, she is a very beautiful girl. I had her come back this afternoon. Reliable for appointments. She was supposed to pick up her son at 3:30 pm After school, this may explain that. She was there at 2:00 pm Purple pussy. She was even wetter than last time. Pussy licked and licked. Nice, well put together, nice little ass, I put my fingers everywhere. 2000 B.
Day 15:
Girl of the day (35): Thaifriendly. Chosen a bit haphazardly and again because of a last-minute stand me up : appointment made at 12:30 for 2:00 pm And of course she didn't tell me she wasn't coming. Not pretty, too thin, body and face more like 50 (and even then) and on top of that she was at the end (or beginning) of her period. Bad draw then. But nice and excellent deep blowjob and I felt the tongue in her mouth. Cummed doggy style, not much more to say. 1000 + 200 tip.
Day 16:
Girl of the day (26); Thaifriendly. Already Thaifriendly smartphone works better when you have a network. Yesterday I had some very erratic ones. Appointment made at 12:30 and she arrived at 2:15 pm A bit late because of the 2nd Road works but hey no big deal. Pretty good atmosphere. Well the photos were still advantageous because I saw her arrive more chuby than expected anyway but all that was very firm considering her age. Very pretty little muzzle. A lot of moans like porn personally it's not my thing and in addition she must have had a pain in the pussy because she had a little trouble in doggy style. 1000 + 200 tip.
General opinion on Thaifriendly:
The -: a lot of waste in the contacts, the scourge of missed appointments, I didn't have a subscription so I only contacted the ads that displayed Line, WhatsApp, Instagram, etc. It was just for a few days, the best is to take a subscription (1 month $ 24) very quickly profitable compared to the offers in gogo or in bars. This is probably what I will do on my next visit. Request availability and a time investment to contact.
The +: a lot of girls available throughout the day and I imagine also at night but me at night I sleep. Everything for all ages, all shapes, big, thin, small, tall, beautiful, less beautiful, etc.
The best is not to make an appointment too far in advance. Under 2 hours seems to me to be an acceptable compromise so that everyone can organize themselves, but I was also able to make last-minute appointments without any problems.
Generally not expensive. All the appointments I made were for 1000 + 200 tip. Some requests for 1500 in general that can generally be negotiated. A request for 2000st and 4500 LT without follow-up obviously. The best is to announce in the first messages the price that you are ready to pay.
Good solution if you are there for several days but difficult to implement for a weekend or a short tourist stay.
No toxics comments thank you.I think this was a pretty successful few days with TF FL's and an off duty go go girl. Nice reporting. For the monger that does not like to spend money in the Pattaya bars on drinks and bar fines, this is about the best way to meet girls to fuck for reasonable prices without planning too far in advance to avoid disappointments.
Like I have said all along, Pattaya has something for everyone and this guy found his comfort zone and is sticking with it. The bars are not for him and that's cool. They are not for everyone. Why waste your trip to Pattaya moaning about bar fines, having to buy lady drinks, and complaining about how much the bar girls and go go girls want. Find what works for you and stick to it. Then your vacation will be the most enjoyable.
My two cents worth.
For this monger who seems to want to go to the bars, but refuses to spend the money, he should check out the gents clubs. Why? Because they offer rates just a little higher than FL's, but you still get the bar atmosphere. You can drink 60 baht Leos and never buy one lady drink. Then you can go upstairs to the ST room for 400-500 Baht and pay the girl 1000-1500. Or better yet, go behind the curtain and fuck for 1000 plus the curtain fee of 200-300 Baht.
However, buying a few lady drinks is the many thing to do. For one rack of tequila in Maggie Mays, the girl will get completely naked and suck your dick. Either behind the curtain or right at the bar or your table. Love gents clubs!!!!
Banana Boi
09-05-24, 15:20
For this monger who seems to want to go to the bars, but refuses to spend the money, he should check out the gents clubs. Why? Because they offer rates just a little higher than FL's, but you still get the bar atmosphere. You can drink 60 baht Leos and never buy one lady drink. I would be bored out of my mind if I went to Kinnaree and never bought lady drinks. The whole purpose of a G Club for me is bang for your buck. For a measly cheap LD you get guaranteed DFK and HJ and sometimes more. Really miss those old bars around Soi LK Pavilion. For a LD your dick would be out she'd have no panties on giving you lap dances without penetration (that you had to pay for). Really enjoyable afternoons of fun. I agree. G clubs rock for fun and value in the afternoon.
Only con of many G clubs are they are very smoky.
UglyAzzMan
09-05-24, 15:54
They damn sure do. And the Thais ask 4-5 k. That is why I laugh when people talk about how cheap the brothers from India are. You go inside of those clubs and it is a different story.You seem to have a thing about asking prices.
Trust me Indians aren't paying Bumpkis. Indians be Indians.
P.S. we not talking about Indians who own nana plaza.
EverythingThai
09-06-24, 04:47
I would be bored out of my mind if I went to Kinnaree and never bought lady drinks. The whole purpose of a G Club for me is bang for your buck. For a measly cheap LD you get guaranteed DFK and HJ and sometimes more. Really miss those old bars around Soi LK Pavilion. For a LD your dick would be out she'd have no panties on giving you lap dances without penetration (that you had to pay for). Really enjoyable afternoons of fun. I agree. G clubs rock for fun and value in the afternoon.
Only con of many G clubs are they are very smoky.Thats you and me.
You must have missed this part of my post.
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However, buying a few lady drinks is the many thing to do. For one rack of tequila in Maggie Mays, the girl will get completely naked and suck your dick. Either behind the curtain or right at the bar or your table. Love gents clubs!!!!
This is what I love the most about the gents clubs.
Ya same experiance with me too.
In jannat one Uzbek chicks asked me 15 k THb for LT.
I said FUCK OFF.
That is what I am talking about. Real boots on the ground reporting!
That is a good price compared to 5000 LT for a top tier Agogo girl.
Are their pussies lined with gold?
EverythingThai
09-06-24, 07:16
I think this was a pretty successful few days with TF FL's and an off duty go go girl. Nice reporting. For the monger that does not like to spend money in the Pattaya bars on drinks and bar fines, this is about the best way to meet girls to fuck for reasonable prices without planning too far in advance to avoid disappointments.
Like I have said all along, Pattaya has something for everyone and this guy found his comfort zone and is sticking with it. The bars are not for him and that's cool. They are not for everyone. Why waste your trip to Pattaya moaning about bar fines, having to buy lady drinks, and complaining about how much the bar girls and go go girls want. Find what works for you and stick to it. Then your vacation will be the most enjoyable.
My two cents worth.
For this monger who seems to want to go to the bars, but refuses to spend the money, he should check out the gents clubs. Why? Because they offer rates just a little higher than FL's, but you still get the bar atmosphere. You can drink 60 baht Leos and never buy one lady drink. Then you can go upstairs to the ST room for 400-500 Baht and pay the girl 1000-1500. Or better yet, go behind the curtain and fuck for 1000 plus the curtain fee of 200-300 Baht.
However, buying a few lady drinks is the many thing to do. For one rack of tequila in Maggie Mays, the girl will get completely naked and suck your dick. Either behind the curtain or right at the bar or your table. Love gents clubs!!!!
Maggie Mays:
Know your venues. Know your prices. Do not fight the market. Flow to where the market works for you.I just realized the way this member puts it is even better than how I put it.
So don't waste your precious mongering time in Pattaya complaining. do this instead.
EverythingThai
09-06-24, 07:22
Only con of many G clubs are they are very smoky.Steven has installed the best ventilation system money can buy in Maggie Mays. I smoke my cigar in there all the time and unless I blow the smoke directly into someone's face, which I would never do, believe it or not, you wouldn't even know someone was smoking.
I think this was a pretty successful few days with TF FL's and an off duty go go girl. Nice reporting. For the monger that does not like to spend money in the Pattaya bars on drinks and bar fines, this is about the best way to meet girls to fuck for reasonable prices without planning too far in advance to avoid disappointments.
Like I have said all along, Pattaya has something for everyone and this guy found his comfort zone and is sticking with it. The bars are not for him and that's cool. They are not for everyone. Why waste your trip to Pattaya moaning about bar fines, having to buy lady drinks, and complaining about how much the bar girls and go go girls want. Find what works for you and stick to it. Then your vacation will be the most enjoyable.
My two cents worth.
For this monger who seems to want to go to the bars, but refuses to spend the money, he should check out the gents clubs. Why? Because they offer rates just a little higher than FL's, but you still get the bar atmosphere. You can drink 60 baht Leos and never buy one lady drink. Then you can go upstairs to the ST room for 400-500 Baht and pay the girl 1000-1500. Or better yet, go behind the curtain and fuck for 1000 plus the curtain fee of 200-300 Baht. Thank you brother! I think your assessment gives excellent insight for others who may be new or just beating their head up against the wall when it comes to pricing structures for pussy here in Pattaya.
Posting in a public forum equals other members of the public commenting on your posts. All members need to remember that!
KrumeLurer
09-06-24, 17:40
Paying around 1000 euro for a flight ticket and then pay around 70 euro for a girl on soi 6 is not really my idea of "something for everyone". What BS. Yes, I can get some grandma for 500 baht, but who the f* travels for that? Who travels to go and see the overwight 40+ ladies on soi 7 and soi 8? Its just stupid.
It was never that price level or quality that made Pattaya into what it once was.
Passport
Before it all starts one has to get a passport. In my country of origin that process is not inexpensive. A passport book and card is: 121.85 euro.
Travel
International tricking requires a flight ticket. This cost will vary depending upon which city you are leaving from in my country of origin. Quick search of the flights available from the city I jump off from give me a cost to BKK for a two week fuck vacation in the month of October 2024 between 900 - 1200 euro.
Where you stay
This is very dependent upon the personal style of the international trick in question. Hilton next to Central on Beach Road (254 euro / nigh) or Apex Hotel (17 euro / night). Never stayed in the Hilton, but never been disappointed with the chain worldwide. I have state in the Apex Hotel and it is good enough for this international trick.
Actual Tricking Expenses
I posted this on 08/24/2024:
Maggie Mays: Full Service is 1000; room 400.
You get what you negotiate with the girl. The room is a set price. The time she spends with you is directly related to the LD drinks you buy for her.
Or you can change venues:
Windmill: 3000ST; 5000 LT; Bar Fine after 0100:1500.
Skyfall: 3000ST; 5000 LT; Bar Fine: 1500.
Kink: 3000ST; 5000 LT; Bar Fine: 1500.
Beer Bar on Soi Tree town: 1000ST; Bar Fine: 500.
Kings Club: LD 160 ; 1000ST; VIP Room 400;.
Lips Lounge: LD 250; 500 BBBJCIM; no need for room. Room 300 THB. Bar Fine 1000.
Don't get caught up in the pricing bullshit on Soi 6. Fuck dem Nightass group bar owning mother fuckers.
Know your venues. Know your prices. Do not fight the market. Flow to where the market works for you.Thai Friendly girls range from 1000 - 4000 Short Time depending upon their perceived attractiveness and where they are from. Girls from Beach Road range from 1000,1500, 2000 THB. Those are the price ranges I have been given when searching for my princess standing under a palm tree.
My prices (price ranges) are accurate. No one has quibbled with me over them. And everyone posting up in here knows that I do not like to pay a whole lot of money for pussy. Now there are mother fuckers who WILL talk shit about appearance. Those same mother fuckers have never posted a photo of the girls they hire as postitutes or even posted a report about the girls they have hired for prostitutes in Pattaya. I could name names but I won't to protect the guilty.
The oldest Thai Girl I have ever fucked in Pattya was: 40 years old, out of a Tree Town Beer Bar. The youngest I have been with is 20. A girl who works at 7-11 and I gave her 2000 for BBFSCIP. My experiences do not invalidate anyone else's experiences. But I can get much more than a overweight grandmother for my 500 THB (she was 27).
Perhaps individuals who cannot find girls that fit within their price range should find other places in this entire mother fucking world that exists to go. And if they find those places help a brother out and let me know instead of being both a negative nelly and a cheap Charlie. LOL!.
I have friends who are incurring all of the above expenses when it comes to travel and they cannot wait to get back!
Paying around 1000 euro for a flight ticket and then pay around 70 euro for a girl on soi 6 is not really my idea of "something for everyone". What BS. Yes, I can get some grandma for 500 baht, but who the f* travels for that? Who travels to go and see the overwight 40+ ladies on soi 7 and soi 8? Its just stupid.
It was never that price level or quality that made Pattaya into what it once was.Au contraire. It was definitely that price level that made Patters what it was. Soi 6 was magnificent before "the group" took over and converted all the bars into open air loud monstrosities. ST on premise was 500 Baht and they were amazingly cute girls. GoGos were 1 k ST and 1500 LT, no arguing. FLs in Marine 1 k. And these were not 40 year olds. This hell true from 1999 when I started going to patters till the early 10's.
Au contraire. It was definitely that price level that made Patters what it was. Soi 6 was magnificent before "the group" took over and converted all the bars into open air loud monstrosities. ST on premise was 500 Baht and they were amazingly cute girls. GoGos were 1 k ST and 1500 LT, no arguing. FLs in Marine 1 k. And these were not 40 year olds. This hell true from 1999 when I started going to patters till the early 10's.Agree absolutely. Soi 6 was fantastic when I used to go there in the early 2000's. Basically a Soi lined by bars operating on the same model as the Gentleman's Clubs of today. Closed doors, air con, relaxed atmosphere, no pressure for drinks, and full of cute, young ladies all ready for fun in the bar or to go upstairs for 500 Baht. I stopped going to Pattaya years ago, but from what I read here, there are still plenty of alternative options for a good time, but Soi 6 certainly isn't one of them any more.
Fuck, why does it seam like everyone lives in the mother fucking Glory Days? Things change. Online game is poping off. Other in person venues are also. As opposed to telling people what to, I suggest that if they are hung up on Soi 6 pricing models or they cannot seem to find girls they find attractive in beer bars that they look to other markets. Pattaya has so many of them. I am not one to relive the Glory Days (not that I could if I wanted to when it comes to Pattaya). If Pattaya has changed and you haven't that is you OWN damn fault. LOL!.
Two examples have been given as reasonable choices at a lower price point: Gentlemans Clubs or Thai Friendly.
Or mother fuckers could up their game like I did when I lived in the Dominican Republic and learned how to speak Spanish. Now learning a different language, that requires time and brain work and not everyone will be up to it. For me it was like having the keys to the kingdom handed to me. Along with being able to travel to any number of Spanish speaking countries and communicate. To me it is a better use of time than writing endless complaints here about the price of pussy in Pattaya. Learning to speak Thai opens up a entire mother fucking country to include girls not participating in the pussy market.
Be a man! Put in some work!
Which club was it?
At Jannat every Uzbek was asking 8-10 k.
I had done my research before visiting Pattaya for the first time in August this year, and the three Indian clubs I was recommended to visit by my friends were Nashaa, Jannat & Tony.
Sceptic and even a little apprehensive as I didn't want to run into Indians on foreign soil (LOL), I went to Nashaa on the third day of my stay. 5 minutes in, I found myself feeling comfortable, listening & dancing to familiar Panjabi & other Indian music, the girls seemed to be enjoying the company of Indians and most of them were singing along to Indian songs! It was a welcome sight compared to the GoGo bars in Nana Plaza Bangkok closing the front door curtains at the sight of fellow Indians, and the sole reason I didn't spend a single penny there!
Anyway back to Nashaa. Believe you me when I tell you that the pot-bellied Indian uncles and all other Indians as a matter of fact who come there, have deep pockets and are ready to splurge. One of the Uzbeki chicks that was being hit on by the entire club that night was finally taken home by an Indian uncle who pulled a stack of Thai Baht notes from his pocket and asked her to name the price! 10 k THB it was, and the gentleman didn't bat an eyelid before taking her out from the club. I suppose this is the reason Uzbeki girls have started demanding such high prices because they know that Indians can and will pay them when they are in Pattaya!
I was eyeing a friend of this chick I mentioned above, and once I was able to muster up enough courage to go talk to her, she quoted 5 k LT. To which I reverted sternly with 3. 5 K LT and she was tagging along to my table. Just so you know, I had to buy her two shots (150 THB each) and she also asked to pick up some food along the way back to hotel ( 200-300 THB).
I guess the all Indian crowd in these Indian clubs and the Indian music might be overwhelming for many of my non-Indian friends, but rest assured you'll have a good time there.
If you wish, I can take you along to one of these Indian clubs during my next visit to Pattaya 13-16 Sep.
Till then, Cheers!
Expat American
09-07-24, 11:08
Paying around 1000 euro for a flight ticket and then pay around 70 euro for a girl on soi 6 is not really my idea of "something for everyone". What BS. Yes, I can get some grandma for 500 baht, but who the f* travels for that? Who travels to go and see the overwight 40+ ladies on soi 7 and soi 8? Its just stupid.
It was never that price level or quality that made Pattaya into what it once was.Yeah Soi 6 was a great place to spend an afternoon. You could buy a cheap drink and girls would be all over you and then beg you to take them up to fuck them for 500-750 Baht. On Beach Road you get get your pick of brand new 18 year olds fresh off the boat for 500 B as well. Then internet and social media changed everything.
Banana Boi
09-07-24, 11:11
Uzbeki girls at Indian ClubsI have no doubt there are Indian guys out there with deep pockets. Good for them.
My questions for you guys are:
1. How is the service from a top looking 10,000 baht LT Uzbek girl? Multiple shots? True DFK? BBBJ? BBFS (asking for ET)? Great attitude all night once in your room?
2. How is this unnegotiated priced 10,000 baht girl compared to a 5,000 baht LT girl who you have negotiated down to 3,5000 baht?
3. Are there only "Russian" girls there? I've been with well over 50 "Russian" girls before and tbh can count on both hands the number that stood out for me. Let's just say they aren't as good as their "European" counterparts like Czech, Hungarian, Polish, etc.
Never been to an Indian club but willing to go if the white girls are hot as the top looking girls from German FKK clubs 10 years ago (ie prettier than the ones you see outside the Russian gogo bars). Don't have an issue with 10,000 baht if the girl is hot enough and he service is exceptional.
Are there only "Russian" girls there? I've been with well over 50 "Russian" girls before and tbh can count on both hands the number that stood out for me. Let's just say they aren't as good as their "European" counterparts like Czech, Hungarian, Polish, etc.
Never been to an Indian club but willing to go if the white girls are hot as the top looking girls from German FKK clubs 10 years ago (ie prettier than the ones you see outside the Russian gogo bars). Don't have an issue with 10,000 baht if the girl is hot enough and he service is exceptional.If you’re looking for an endless supply of Russians, the answer is Dubai. Russians are absolutely as good as their Europeans counterparts if you know where to find them. Dubai also has Ukrainians, Belarusians, Polish, and the "stan" countries and central Asian countries (Kazahstan, Kyrgystan, etc). But you have to have money. The equivalent of 10,000 baht only gets you 1 hour with a Russian in Dubai (go to a club called Red Square and Czar).
I've had "Russians" in Thailand before back around 2016 (Mixx disco, dont know if Russian FLs are still there today) and they were never good. They all demanded covered blowjobs, some didn't even want to do a blowjob, they smelled like smoke from too much smoking, they were a starfish and just laid there like a dead fish, robot, bad service, up-charging, unappealing bodies once you saw them naked. However, if the "Russians" at these Indian clubs in thailand are actually providing good service, and they actually look good with and without clothes, I will be very interested.
One of the Uzbeki chicks that was being hit on by the entire club that night was finally taken home by an Indian uncle who pulled a stack of Thai Baht notes from his pocket and asked her to name the price! 10 k THB it was, and the gentleman didn't bat an eyelid before taking her out from the club. I suppose this is the reason Uzbeki girls have started demanding such high prices because they know that Indians can and will pay them when they are in Pattaya!
Interesting, Ive rarely seen big money Indians in Pattaya but I have seen them in Dubai. Im very interested to see how these uzbekis look. Perhaps someone on the ground can get a picture of inside the club or explain where exactly these Russian FLs are standing in the club. I might as well check it out on my next visit but based on google map picture reviews, I dont see any non-indian women, only massive crowds of a bunch of guys.
Hello to all the dear reporters!
I would like to discuss the way to initial communication with freelance from Thal-Friendly site.
What is important to close in advance? What is your best practices?
Thanks.
TravelingMan3
09-08-24, 01:06
A couple things soi 6 isn't that bad there are still plenty of attractive girls that will go with you for 1500 baht plus 400 for the room so 1900. As Mr E always says and I have started doing it myself you don't have to buy a drink for the chick or yourself. All the girls are on the street trying to get you inside if you like one simply ask to go to the room. Honestly I don't get the hate on the price regarding soil 6 especially since the guy criticizing the price is staying he bar fines from gogos which is triple the price when you take drinks into account.
With that said if you don't find value on the six go to soil honey massage places or the bars there I'm not sure how much those girls charge might be the same price. If the bars are to expensive then do tinder Thai friendly etc. One thing that guys here rarely mention is the clubs the same chick's in bars are in the clubs you don't have to pay a bar fine or there drinks do that.
Hello to all the dear reporters!
I would like to discuss the way to initial communication with freelance from Thal-Friendly site.
What is important to close in advance? What is your best practices?
Thanks.I just find a girl that I think looks attractive and I tell her that I am coming to Thailand and I'm looking for someone to dress up in a chicken suit while I brutally sodomize her over and over again, and then I don't want to spend more than 500 baht. I then collect the line addresses and the WhatsApp s from the ones that show eagerness and arrange a meet.
Just make sure you tell them in the very first message what you are looking for. If you're not into brutal sodomy like I am, and let's say you're into anal felching or poop play, just ask. You'll get responses.
Hello to all the dear reporters!
I would like to discuss the way to initial communication with freelance from Thal-Friendly site.
What is important to close in advance? What is your best practices?
Thanks.I say hello, I would like to meet you. At that point they will tell you they are freelance. If they don't just have a normal conversation and then redirect to meeting them. You will find they either want you to pay them for sex or take them on a date. Your option. Do not lead with money if you want to maintain the option for all the free pussy being talked about up in here.
And we have our local expert on Thai Friendly below. Let's see if he will actually offer some information on having sex with girls here in the Pattaya Reports thread. LOL!.
And beside that I find my girls almost exclusively on TF
Explorer8939
09-09-24, 12:47
More than 50% of the ladies who come to my condo want to be paid via bank transfer rather than cash.
I suspect that they want to be paid via bank transfer because they can only play slots using money in the bank.
... between 1200 and 1500 baht per session*.How long do they stay usually? Cool reports.
I am 30/ M / Indian. I visited Pattaya for 4 days in the last week of August.
Barfined (ST) twice from Soi 6 and twice from two of the top Gogo bars at Walking Street.
I thought I should share my retrospective. Be warned, it might feel a bit like a rant about the Indian experience in Pattaya.
1. I was denied entry at Pin-Up and XS Gogo Bars. At both places, the guards said "members only, 5000 THB fee". Granted I am very brown and obese, I think I was dressed fine. I visited the Walking Street alone, so I did not seem like one of those creepy Indian groups either. Before entering a bar, I confirm LD and BF prices. Maybe that made them think I am a stereotypical Cheap Charlie from India. I was willing to spend good money but not just for the privilege to enter the damned bar. I tried to communicate the same by offering to buy drinks for security guards at both the bars. At XS, I even opened my wallet to show them the cash I have on me. That only prompted them to reduce the "membership fee" to 3000 THB "just for me". I left after hearing that. Maybe a little more convincing would have worked? Whatever. It was a little frustrating to be expected to just throw a lot of money away to prove I can spend as much as Koreans and Americans. Why not have a cover charge system instead? More than happy to guarantee spending 5 k THB on LDs and BFs but I would still be a little worried about bill padding or excessive LD requests from staff when paying a big amount upfront. Any thoughts on this from fellow Indians / non-Indians?
2. Onto the other two Gogo bars I did BF from. I will not name them for privacy; apparently Indians very rarely visit Gogo bars. The first bar asked for 500 THB "membership fee". That was much more reasonable than the 5000 THB demand from other bars. I handed the guard the cash. He said something along the lines of, "just buy me a drink", so I did not end up paying the 500 THB fee after all. Just paid for my drink and a guard's drink to enter. At the second bar, I was not stopped at entrance at all. I offered the guard a drink anyway. He was very happy. I offered a drink each to two waitresses. They paid special attention to my requests.
3. As expected Soi 6 is much more value for money. Of course here as well, the experience is not as good as it is for Americans and Koreans. Those dudes (regardless of age, weight, etc.) were getting a lot more attention from the pretty ladies. Two ladies refused my offer to buy them drinks. It was a little upsetting in the moment but I did not brood over it. In retrospect, I am very happy these ladies had the agency to refuse my advances if they did not feel like being with me. Soon enough, I found a pretty lady who agreed to get a drink with me. Lots of kissing and groping inside the bar. We went upstairs for ST. It was fun. I regret not LTing her. I spent 2500 and 3000 baht all in (my drink, LD, BF and lady's fee) for the two times. Much better value for money than Walking Street. Sure, Gogo bars will have higher concentration of "more desirable" ladies but Soi 6 has so many ladies, you will very likely find someone you like and for much cheaper.
4. No luck on TF with subscription. First question I ask is if the lady freelances. Most did not respond. Some that did never messaged again.
I had a few questions as well (I have RTFF):
1. One lady from Soi 6 I barfined the previous day sent me angry Line texts after she spotted me heading to another bar on the street. This happened even though I told her during our first interaction that I am butterfly. Could I have prevented her being (fake?) upset? Not sure what her expectation was.
2. A lot of the ladies I bought a drink asked if I have a girlfriend. Are they asking about my previous barfining history? Or if I have a girlfriend back home? Or something else? I remember reading somewhere that Pattaya's entertainment industry is built around GFE but in this forum, I see lots of people here not sticking around with one lady. Am I missing something?
3. Do I need do something more to get better response on TF? My profile only had one face-to-waist photo. Is that enough? How long do you all spend messaging ladies on TF? It sure felt like a lot of work to do.
Please reply / message me if you spot any behaviour I can improve for a better experience for myself or the ladies.
Mr Enternational
09-09-24, 14:15
How long do they stay usually? There is no usual. They stay what you negotiate. I pretty much only do Long Time which starts at night and goes through morning. Did have a chick come during the day the other day for 1000 though. She stayed at least 3 hours. Girl last night came over at 11 pm and left this morning at 11 am. 1200 baht.
I am 30/ M / Indian. I visited Pattaya for 4 days in the last week of August.
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1. I was denied entry at Pin-Up and XS Gogo Bars. At both places, the guards said "members only, 5000 THB fee". Granted I am very brown and obese, I think I was dressed fine. I visited the Walking Street alone, so I did not seem like one of those creepy Indian groups either.WOW! I've seen the security guard put up 5 fingers to the Indians at those places. But I though it was 500 baht, not 5000 baht. I guess that would make sense. Those places are packed, and I generally don't see Indians there (I don't really like those bars because you have to sit cheek-to-cheek; but you do have the best talent there). 500 baht is not that big of a cover charge. I usually see mainly East Asians and White Westerners at those bars.
3. As expected Soi 6 is much more value for money. Of course here as well, the experience is not as good as it is for Americans and Koreans. Those dudes (regardless of age, weight, etc.) were getting a lot more attention from the pretty ladies. Two ladies refused my offer to buy them drinks. It was a little upsetting in the moment but I did not brood over it. In retrospect, I am very happy these ladies had the agency to refuse my advances if they did not feel like being with meYou can get the same treatment as these guys if you're willing to spend as much as you were willing to spend on walking street. Maybe not from these same girls, but others will gladly do it. Just keep in mind that some girls are picky, some others have their preferences and many of them are inexperienced, so they need time to adjust their understanding.
1. One lady from Soi 6 I barfined the previous day sent me angry Line texts after she spotted me heading to another bar on the street. This happened even though I told her during our first interaction that I am butterfly. Could I have prevented her being (fake?) upset? Not sure what her expectation was.Best thing to do is to not exchange Line IDs with these girls, unless you've been to her many times, you know you like her a lot. Otherwise, nothing interesting will come from getting her Line ID.
2. A lot of the ladies I bought a drink asked if I have a girlfriend. Are they asking about my previous barfining history? Or if I have a girlfriend back home? Or something else? I remember reading somewhere that Pattaya's entertainment industry is built around GFE but in this forum, I see lots of people here not sticking around with one lady. Am I missing something?Probably some basic talks, like where you come from, how old are you, just some talks to talk a bit and pretend she is interested to know about you. To be clear, they don't care if you've got a GF or not unless they are thinking of becoming your GF, but I would say it is unlikely from a girl on soi 6 unless you've been to her multiple times and spent a ton on her.
If you stopped posting then I don't understand what you are doing here now? You say you don't have much to say about the other options, but you do about Thai Friendly. Plenty of the guys need help in that area.
So whats stopping you from contributing about that? TF in Pattaya is one of the major mongering options. TF in Pattaya is different than BKK and other places because 95% of the ladies are FLs. Other areas in about 50/50.
So, are you still here to contribute or just muddle and puddle around. At least Sub posts reports. Whether you love him or hate him, he contributes useful info.
With you, you have over 2000 posts. With experience like that, you are qualified to contribute in any section of the forum. Please post up.Here are some examples:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=2916386&viewfull=1#post2916386. Post no. 42305.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=2916376&viewfull=1#post2916376. Post no. 42304.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=2903813&viewfull=1#post2903813. Post no. 41910.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=2891821&viewfull=1#post2891821. Post no. 41613.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=2881978&viewfull=1#post2881978. Post no. 41193.
......1. One lady from Soi 6 I barfined the previous day sent me angry Line texts after she spotted me heading to another bar on the street.......When you see her go with a customer send her an angry text complaining about that.
You can get the same treatment as these guys if you're willing to spend as much as you were willing to spend on walking street.
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Thanks for responding. I would be happy to spend more at Soi 6 but what do I do with the money exactly? I was already offering LDs to women I fancied. What more could I do?
Mr Enternational
09-09-24, 19:31
A lot of the ladies I bought a drink asked if I have a girlfriend. Are they asking about my previous barfining history? Or if I have a girlfriend back home? Or something else?They are just making small talk. Tell them yes and she likes ladies too.
Do I need do something more to get better response on TF? My profile only had one face-to-waist photo. Is that enough? How long do you all spend messaging ladies on TF? It sure felt like a lot of work to do.I just copy and paste "Hello,. What you doing" to all of them that I am interested in. Whoever answers then I work from there. Some do not answer for days, weeks or even months after.
More than 50% of the ladies who come to my condo want to be paid via bank transfer rather than cash.Fuck that! I only pay my prostitutes fiat currency in THB. My personal philosophy is to pay cash until I cannot. Like at the move theater I had to buy a card in order to purchase tickets. So, I did. But I least I got a discount. Also, many food courts let you pay cash at the main station where they put a credit on a card that lets you make purchases in the food court. I had to mail a package and they would only allow bank transfer. I paid it. But I also thought it was fucked up. Legal Tender means it is legal to use for all business transactions in the mother fucking country. Get the fuck!.
I am 30/ M / Indian. I visited Pattaya for 4 days in the last week of August.
Barfined (ST) twice from Soi 6 and twice from two of the top Gogo bars at Walking Street..I think you did well for your first visit I believe. Otherwise you wouldn't be so alarmed about the lack of access to all clubs.
First of all, I would not give a damn about it since the visit time for us is usually just a few days and Pattaya has thousands and thousands of girls to choose from. It's not like you are losing out on everything. You did not get access to the best location on the beach, but you can still be happy with the sea in front of you anyways. Just swim in the waters available to you and have fun and be grateful that you had the opportunity to do what millions of others could not.
Secondly, clubs are there to make money. They are not here to entertain everyone who comes to Pattaya. They are doing what is right for their business model. And they are 100% right in doing so. If you run a business you will want the best spending and well behaved customers. And they do use their best judgement in filtering out certain races which is not fair to some of us but if you see around you deep down know they have to do it.
I wouldn't waste my time on TF. It's for people who spend months and years living there. For the weekenders, you are better off at the places you already visited.
Thanks for responding. I would be happy to spend more at Soi 6 but what do I do with the money exactly? I was already offering LDs to women I fancied. What more could I do?Just pay a drink to the girl you like, if she is responding well keep paying a few drinks (one after one, no racks and no tequilas). During that time, talk with her and be touchy, try to feel her everywhere. If things are going good, take her upstairs (after negociating a price). If not, move to another bar or come back to the soi later if you don't see anyone.
The girls are seeing all kind of guys walking the soi up and down frequently, they don't necessarily know who is here to have a good time and who is not. They will know when they will see you having a good time with a girl, and spending on drinks. Your next visit some of the other girls would have noticed you, and slowly more and more girls will want to jump on you, but it takes time. One or two days might not be enough to get the same treatment that the guys you've seen.
I am 30/ M / Indian. I visited Pattaya for 4 days in the last week of August.
Barfined (ST) twice from Soi 6 and twice from two of the top Gogo bars at Walking Street.
I thought I should share my retrospective. Be warned, it might feel a bit like a rant about the Indian experience in Pattaya.
1. I was denied entry at Pin-Up and XS Gogo Bars. At both places, the guards said "members only, 5000 THB fee". Granted I am very brown and obese, I think I was dressed fine. I visited the Walking Street alone, so I did not seem like one of those creepy Indian groups either. Before entering a bar, I confirm LD and BF prices. Maybe that made them think I am a stereotypical Cheap Charlie from India. I was willing to spend good money but not just for the privilege to enter the damned bar. I tried to communicate the same by offering to buy drinks for security guards at both the bars. At XS, I even opened my wallet to show them the cash I have on me. That only prompted them to reduce the "membership fee" to 3000 THB "just for me". I left after hearing that. Maybe a little more convincing would have worked? Whatever. It was a little frustrating to be expected to just throw a lot of money away to prove I can spend as much as Koreans and Americans. Why not have a cover charge system instead? More than happy to guarantee spending 5 k THB on LDs and BFs but I would still be a little worried about bill padding or excessive LD requests from staff when paying a big amount upfront. Any thoughts on this from fellow Indians / non-Indians?
2. Onto the other two Gogo bars I did BF from. I will not name them for privacy; apparently Indians very rarely visit Gogo bars. The first bar asked for 500 THB "membership fee". That was much more reasonable than the 5000 THB demand from other bars. I handed the guard the cash. He said something along the lines of, "just buy me a drink", so I did not end up paying the 500 THB fee after all. Just paid for my drink and a guard's drink to enter. At the second bar, I was not stopped at entrance at all. I offered the guard a drink anyway. He was very happy. I offered a drink each to two waitresses. They paid special attention to my requests.
3. As expected Soi 6 is much more value for money. Of course here as well, the experience is not as good as it is for Americans and Koreans. Those dudes (regardless of age, weight, etc.) were getting a lot more attention from the pretty ladies. Two ladies refused my offer to buy them drinks. It was a little upsetting in the moment but I did not brood over it. In retrospect, I am very happy these ladies had the agency to refuse my advances if they did not feel like being with me. Soon enough, I found a pretty lady who agreed to get a drink with me. Lots of kissing and groping inside the bar. We went upstairs for ST. It was fun. I regret not LTing her. I spent 2500 and 3000 baht all in (my drink, LD, BF and lady's fee) for the two times. Much better value for money than Walking Street. Sure, Gogo bars will have higher concentration of "more desirable" ladies but Soi 6 has so many ladies, you will very likely find someone you like and for much cheaper.
4. No luck on TF with subscription. First question I ask is if the lady freelances. Most did not respond. Some that did never messaged again.
I had a few questions as well (I have RTFF):
1. One lady from Soi 6 I barfined the previous day sent me angry Line texts after she spotted me heading to another bar on the street. This happened even though I told her during our first interaction that I am butterfly. Could I have prevented her being (fake?) upset? Not sure what her expectation was.
2. A lot of the ladies I bought a drink asked if I have a girlfriend. Are they asking about my previous barfining history? Or if I have a girlfriend back home? Or something else? I remember reading somewhere that Pattaya's entertainment industry is built around GFE but in this forum, I see lots of people here not sticking around with one lady. Am I missing something?
3. Do I need do something more to get better response on TF? My profile only had one face-to-waist photo. Is that enough? How long do you all spend messaging ladies on TF? It sure felt like a lot of work to do.
Please reply / message me if you spot any behaviour I can improve for a better experience for myself or the ladies.Pretty brutal if you're not getting ladies hitting you up on TF. I think for most guys the moment they sign up they are inundated with messages from freelancers.
Thanks for responding. I would be happy to spend more at Soi 6 but what do I do with the money exactly? I was already offering LDs to women I fancied. What more could I do?Not much. These ladies have a choice of who they want to fuck and not fuck. We are not buying a product are we? Just an hour of time from a person for their service and they have the choice to choose their client for many reasons. We can increase our odds but there are certain girls who even refuse to go with western white guys apparently if you read some of their reports here. There is already a hue and cry about it in Philippines forum and to a smaller extent in Thai forums. Girls prefer Asians like Koreans and Japs more, then come westerners, then Middle East and finally Desis.
The places that offer lineups such as soapies are more suitable for a sure shot selection. AFAIK, yet to read a report where a Soapie lady has turned down a client. Probably a 99% chance of nothing going wrong there. However the ladies are usually older, padded with makeup and the mechanical nature of sex ruins it.
... Just swim in the waters available to you and have fun and be grateful that you had the opportunity to do what millions of others could not...Absolutely. I am happy with my experience. I wanted to post about the not-so-positive experiences anyway, so that other first-timers from India can calibrate expectations accordingly.
I wouldn't waste my time on TF. It's for people who spend months and years living there. For the weekenders, you are better off at the places you already visited.Okay.
... These ladies have a choice of who they want to fuck and not fuck. We are not buying a product are we? ... they have the choice to choose their client for many reasons ...Of course. I did not mean otherwise.
Thanks for your response, LoneWolff.
I wouldn't waste my time on TF.It's for people who spend months and years living there. For the weekenders, you are better off at the places you already visited. Ok, so that is your opinion and you are welcome to it. But I am going offer mine, except mine is supported by documentation.
Example I
First week I was here I met three girls off of Thai Friendly and reported about it. All great experiences! 1000 - 1500 THB. Was told they were ugly just because of the price that I paid. In fact, there were those telling me I was lying on my dick. Now look at them. Choking on their mother fucking foot cause they didn't wash it before putting it in their mouth! If it doesn't taste so good, then make sure you know what you are talking about before you start beating on your keyboard.
Example II
Why not just use Thai Friendly? I've been here almost 3 weeks now and I've only been using TF to source my providers. I've been paying on average 1200 baht per session and the majority of them are BBFS. I never pay for no stupid lady drinks or even regular drinks for that matter. If I want a drink I go to Tops Daily where they sell the big green bottles of Singha beer for 64 baht. The whole concept of barfines and lady drinks is absurd. But to each his own I suppose.
Gabacho Out.It is Gabacho's first visit to Pattaya, Thailand. And he has been running up into Thai girls since wheels down.
I wouldn't waste my time on TF.Tell me again my brother why you have this opinion? On what basis are you provide this opinion to us?
He has to comment on every postI comment on what I know. Have you ever seen a post from me about a soapie massage place? No you have not. Why? Because I have not been to one. If others followed that simple rule then we would not have to wade through so many bullshit posts like ones that Mogwai likes to throw up.
I did post quite a lot in the pastBut in the end it became boring and too time consuming to write reviews.This mother fucker wrote a post to say he does not post anymore. WTF?!.
... I think for most guys the moment they sign up they are inundated with messages from freelancers.For better privacy, I have removed myself from TF search. Only the ladies I send a message to can see my profile.
Explorer8939
09-11-24, 14:33
It is important to me for a girl to refuse me. That way I would have been saved from a bad experience of poor service from a girl who really does not want to be with me. In China I was refused occasionally but I was also with girls who clearly did not want to be with me, one even cried during the deed. I prefer to be refused which gives me an opportunity to be with a girl who will give good service.It's easy for ladies to say "I have period, cannot go to the room. Thanks for the 40 drinks. "
How long do they stay usually? Cool reports.Anywhere from 45 min to about 90 mins. I've just been doing ST not LT.
HorseTrader
09-12-24, 13:44
Shots fired, no. The sub has been sunk.Sub, as in ship? I always thought it was Subway, as in sandwich.
Nuttin Serious
09-12-24, 23:27
Sub, as in ship? I always thought it was Subway, as in sandwich.I thought it was about a boat, a reference to keeping a firm grasp on the seamen.
LittleBigMan
09-13-24, 04:46
Just a different experience? Today I read interesting, opinions, debates, insults but my motto is really to each his own, that includes, age, looks, price, and locations.
A few days late, last Friday I was set to take a family friend out but he ended up cancelling he is the type of guy old stubborn mule who thinks when in Thailand do as the Thais do! I warned him do not eat those what I label " Blood Clams " from market or anywhere. He did a bit over a dozen got a call a few hours later please take me to the hospital my advice, boil some hot water and shit it out.
So with a free night out plans already kind of made I set out on my own. Started out at Soi Buahkao Prime Burger, treated myself to a double and large curly fries, topped it off with a apple pie and vanilla Ice cream I was jacked walked out just across was Tree Town crossed stood in front of the famously mentioned " Bus Bar " didn't see a brother so I did my usual walk around Tree town starting left to right. Usually I see a few that catches my attention maybe it was too early but nothing on the other end not as popular many that were open just a month ago were not closed particularly the path leading to the old Made in Thailand. One notable is " Escape AKA Devil Den " even before the name DD was added during or right after Covid tons of baht was thrown into this place it was supposed to be a hybrid type of place GC then a GoGo at night. Same with the now huge vacant building set in the middle of Tree Town so called " Beach Club " looked like a great idea but another failed. One club girls sitting outside just before the corner bar Candy once name Andy had a half dozen young girls outside playing with their phone. Can't remember the name gaining in age memory and eyesight not what it suppose to be.
Plan was to hit WS. Without friend I continued the journey since I had indicated to a lady friend who my friend met a while back wanted to try to hook up with. She is now older 48, still needs to work but looks 38, her feet damaged don't want to dance so she works outside waving in customers. I've know this lady for over 10 years from another Gogo, who I once had as a gik, she was friends of that gik, help me out a number of times making excuses since she had a BF, through that relationship we got close so close I met her BF then even had dinner with them a number of times been to their house and met her mother. Lets say she is a veteran started very young like most we always kept in touch from time to time we flirt with each other come BF me or she hasn't had any sex stuff, I go along like a Thai man with my sweet mouth. When I had that gik at this Gogo I had a number of girls I like she was one of them but later it kind of became like a brother sister thing funny cause she still would flirt it was tough for me to screw something one refer to me as her brother.
Last discussion she was waving customers outside Faranhelt, said she plans to move a few doors down to the new Shark Club, referring to monopoly, this group the banner if still there will list the number of GoGo they run, a few I remember Skyfall, Bliss, Palace, Faranhelt, ? As noted the group that runs Pin Up, XS, has not taken over the space with the closing of IIvy, naming it Chicks?
Soon I gather we will be talking about WS like we are talking about Soi 6, these owners group have a plan the results are obvious to me at least.
When I walked by didn't see her outside Faranhelt, try to Line her no reply so decided where so I go to kill sometime. Wanted to go XS but too many girls now working there who I know from Bacarra so decided to walk and visit Pin Up again. A few weeks ago some kind of party very crowded didn't get a good seat but this night not busy go placed right between the two stages. Usually I order a draft but I needed something stronger to burn the beef I ate off so Sangsom on the rocks. I notice this time without the draft every waitress walking by didn't check my bin every few minutes having a good seat able to see better I was able to see all three groups. Looks to each his own but for a long time last time I saw a girl that fit my bill was years ago before Covid in Bangkok? What is that place around the corner from Soi Cowboy other end from Asoke.
She wore White seem to be a younger group that remove their tops. Her number was 401, best looking girl I've seen in a long long time white skin 21-25 tops no tattoos perfect type of tits not too big or small they stand up what I term like a chocolate kiss before you unwrap the foil. Within seconds of me spotting her not like I was going to buy her drinks or BF, waitress got her attention she turn and smile indicating to me it was a former customer I realize after it was a couple. With my taste I never know what it is going to be then I spot another shorter, darker, older late 20's big eyes which I like real quiet and shy demeanor #135, if I was to spend money I would surely do her before 401. After two rounds time to hit the road after walking out as I walked pass One night Jack the club next door I run into former Gik now older waving in customers beg me to come in but I made an excuse things aren't the same plus I got a curfew LOL. As I started leave I turn boy was I getting the stink eye that can kill.
Back down to Faranhelt, as to old gik so call good friend then but nothing so I walk past into Soi 15, to get to my bike other end 2nd road just as I near motorbike standing at corner catching Songthaw was her said she isn't working until new club is opened. Small talk we I ended up taking her down 3rd Road to Thai place to eat near her apartment these Thai girls love that " Moo got Ta " they can eat I was surprised she ask to order a small bottle of Hong Tong with bucket of Ice. Chic Chat catching up she seems happy really flirting she does look good for her age take real good care of her body to be honest she is the last on the list of girls from this gogo I haven't fuck.
The subject did come up although she works really don't want to go with your friend the only one she plans to sleep with is me! Now I'm sitting there as old as my ass is I'm thinking I got no game like Mr. E, I couldn't get free pussy on my best day even when I was young. I don't know in H. S. How many girls I missed out on because I couldn't even ask I would shit in my pants, I certainly not the Sub or any of you but yet here I was thinking can I get it up for someone who keeps referring me to her brother " love you brother " but continues to flirt every chance and I being the dog flirts back I joke I don't want to buy the car I just want to test drive you know my situation. But as we know if there are those who don't a Thai girl women don't give a shit if you are married or taken.
She just smiles, for me the apex of excitement these days is being invited to her own personal room which was just up the Soi from where we were eating. She indicated problem her daugther a Tom who I have met 25, is staying with her now although working so I pull the trigger took a big chance that she wasn't expecting me to buy the car we headed up the Soi behind Big see, to my favorite ST, Viva, it was a bit uncomfortable at first until we got into the shower. Regardless, one thing about these older ones who don't get the attention in clubs as much any longer no Boyfriend was she giving me the buy the car sell. When she says she doesn't get BF nor had any in a while " yea right " but I've not seen a Beaver in a while.
Now I cross my finger and hope the problems don't start! This is clearly an experience where the LBM was the one in charge!
Arrive in Bangkok 5 am and had a taxi waiting to take me to Pattaya. Once, I arrived in Pattaya at 7 am I was staying at the Grand Ave condo. This is my first visit to Thailand. I am a South American and Middle East monger I been playing those areas since 2005. Okay let's get into day 1 woke at 12 noon and I went to exchange money at TT while walking I walk past a massage and I decided to get a 300 baht oil massage (this didn't go well) I didn't ask the required question before getting the massage I ended up paying 1300 baht to get jerked off topless (I been reading the Thailand section a lot). Next I head to village market and got some groceries and liquor. Then at about 5:30 I went out again I wanted to visit Heaven above and Maggie mays. It's was too early for heaven above so I went to Maggie mays and had a few drinks and brought a girl 1 lady drinks (the girl jerked me at the bar) I asked how much to go up stairs and she says 1500 for the girl and 400 baht for room. I want to see as much as I could in the first night so I pressed on to 711 and saw a nice Thai girl coming out. I asked where I could purchase a vape so gave me the directions and as I am about walk pass the place to buy the vape she stop on a motto and points the place again. I ask in Thai "where you go" and then I say in Thai " we go together " so I hop on the motto and she says she work at a bar so off we go (I will circle back with the name of the bar on day 2) we get to her bar on Soi Honey and I order a drink for me and a lady for her she sits with me and 1 by 1 the other other girls in the bar come and say Hello,; she asks me if I like any of the girls and I say I like you baby and I want you. See smiles (then she goes to the cash register and cashes out a customer) when she gets back she tell me she is the Masan and cashier and not working. We sit and talk more and I am feeling her up and I open her top a little to see her tits. She say " she is on her period and I do feel a pad. Next I tell her I will go sleep a little then go to a disco. So I left and took a motto to beach Road since it was about 9 pm. Beach road was lined with a lot of working women and I started to take 1 but I remember Soi 6 was close by. So I made my way down the Soi 6 being grabbed so many time (Soi 6 has some nice women) I walk the whole block and turn around looking for the girls that had caught my eye. I spoke with maybe 3 girls and I ask how much. Their quotes were 2000 baht and 400 baht for the room, the next girl said 1500 baht and 400 for the room (I kept walking). Then, I saw Tina again and I asked here how much for boom boom she says 1000 baht and 300 baht for the room. I say ok I we went to her bar (Desire Soi 6) I buy a drink and a lady drink and we talk then we head up to the room where she showers come back I started with her on top and then I was smashing her from behind. I finish in missionary. . the had long nipples and the body was nice. We exchanged number so we can meet up at Club Flex at 2 am. I left Soi 6 took a 60 baht motto to my place. I was saying to myself that I would take a hour sleep then go to mystic club or republic club but I didn't wake up until just now. I really wanted to see the go go and the club scene last night but I was too tired.
Im very interested to see how these uzbekis look. Perhaps someone on the ground can get a picture of inside the club or explain where exactly these Russian FLs are standing in the club. I might as well check it out on my next visit but based on google map picture reviews, I dont see any non-indian women, only massive crowds of a bunch of guys.This is the kind of Uzbek girls you'll find in the Indian clubs in Pattaya.
10 K bahts if you're interrested.
Banana Boi
09-15-24, 16:44
....and it looks like she has no issues ratting you out too.
This is the kind of Uzbek girls you'll find in the Indian clubs in Pattaya.
10 K bahts if you're interrested.That's about 1K baht per 10kg.
Explorer8939
09-16-24, 18:03
This is the kind of Uzbek girls you'll find in the Indian clubs in Pattaya.
10 K bahts if you're interrested.Looks Turkish, pretends to be Russian.
LittleBigMan
09-17-24, 14:09
Mr E is special. He gets Pin up models to clean his room too.Lets not stretch things! I've seen Mr. E in action a number of times he didn't even know I was there like a fly on the wall. Not a lotof people can do what he does when I refer to him about " game " not saying I want to be him many here attack him because they can't.
He isn't getting Pin Up models to clean his room but from the ones I've seen not too far behind.
This is the kind of Uzbek girls you'll find in the Indian clubs in Pattaya.
10 K bahts if you're interrested.If anyone interested for Uzbek or CIS girls, go to Central asian countries or to Delhi or even Dubai eventhough little expensive. Catch them according to ones tastes. In Pattaya look for a Issan girls. He he.
I've seen Mr. E in action a number of times he didn't even know I was there like a fly on the wall. Not a lotof people can do what he does when I refer to him about " game " not saying I want to be him many here attack him because they can't.
He isn't getting Pin Up models to clean his room but from the ones I've seen not too far behind.I like Mr E. He states the base price (i.e. Local price). Then I use that info in my equation / formula.
But sometimes he doesn't state the fine print. Several years ago, he wrote that he got a girl (who everyone said he couldn't get at his price) 5 months later. The fine print is that he had to wait 5 months.
I use his info. Several years ago in the Bogota thread, he said the most you should pay a SW for an hour was 80 K. So I offered 100 K, and the girls immediately accepted, and they did everything I wanted without me having to offer a tip for the extras.
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LittleBigMan
09-20-24, 03:59
A week late but late Saturday with no rain finally was able to get able with my brother and long time child friend visiting who stays on the Darkside at a local resort. In a month he pretty much exhausted all the GC's, he was also the one who I noted ate those Thai Blood Clams and got his boxers stained. LOL.
We started parking at 3rd and Pothole our bikes, ate at the Hotman on the corner, good inexpensive Thai food. After we decided to walk down Soi PotHole we stopped in front of the Den girls calling out in Korean, Japanese, Chinese, a few acceptable in my book. Undecided I was looking around right in front of what else " Maggie Mays " I took them what I have heard so got them to lets try it while the girls outside were calling out to us. Size not indicative of performance we walked in should have know very narrow and small not what I expected to be honest hesitant I could see from my brother and friend face as we walked slowly to the back where pool table was located. Although there were space in the back lounge booth to the right the mirror made the place look bigger but not for us so I politely took the girl next time better if I come alone. Funny, all I can think of in such a small place BananaBoi getting his dick sucked on the couch while pool was being played LOL To each his own but not my thing. I'm use to larger places GC reason still my favorite Kinnaree.
So out we went in front of High Roller, my brother gets a call out from a girl he knows hasn't seen in years. Of Course we go in as large as the place we were the only customer for a Saturday. Of course her friends tags along wanted their fair share of drinks. They tagged team my our friend my brother girls tells them I'm a seasoned vet and don't buy drinks nor want a girl to sit he is just a tour guy now. LOL.
As my brother and friend warming up to girls, mamasan trying to get us to buy trays of drinks we politely decline finally she gets the hint. The a girl walks by shocked surprise it was a showgirl who was good friends with my former Gik, from W. S. Way prior to Covid. I was shocked cause even then she had hooked married to a Japanese guy who managed a factory near Bangkok. I've been around them even attended many Thai function with them. Shocked because as a couple seem happy and I'm always wish those who can leave the business good luck appreciate what they have now with a foreigner. As a MP once noted after he got his butt kicked out of Government said " if you want a better life marry a foreigner " But there is much more than money when it comes to us foreigners.
So to catch up I buy her a drink meantime my brother, friend, said they wanted to ST, so deal was struck of they went I said I would wait for them drinking with the girl who in the pass was one I had no problem doing if she wasn't taken but now she wasn't well? What I didn't expect living a Thai life here a night out I don't want to hear or see the be. S, but here I was sitting letting her cry on my shoulders. I didn't give much advice cause she didn't ask nor she seem capable of hearing the truth offering when they aren't receptive is like setting off a AK47!
But her story was classic seen and heard it a million times, not completely her fault but when you have women raised with little education brainwashed basically that women are a piece of meat secondary they in general have low self esteem about themselves having can easily we sway to think and do things they shouldn't. As she talked the key factor whenever a girl is getting support start to drink with friends and eat Som Tom and Thai finger food that is when trouble is coming! The girls usually like flies comes to be friends cause they want something and someone paying for the food and drinks is the first attraction the second is the money comes from a sponsor or a foreigner. The freeloaders from the same start to compare they are jealous like most of Thailand they never experience but heard rumor! Normally, if you are with a farang you should work they should give you so much a month they get this fantasy from watching soaps that if you are with a Farang they all have money so they dream and act out these fantasys nice car etc.
Then these jealous girls if the girl wants to work they talk down to them that they do with low self esteem not educated enough to talk back and reason loss of face. This in the end, comes back to the farang. Just wanting a night out free here I'am sitting thinking wanting to tell her here is where you went wrong you demanded what because you heard from you freeloading friends that they heard girls with farangs are getting what! The picture that here friends miss look around, house, car, not having to spread your legs any longer.
So in the end, Here I was thinking in the beginning I'm going to take her ST, by the time my brother and friend return there was no way I was getting it up. My tab was 2000 baht drinks for myself and her Too Entrenched!
Banana Boi
09-20-24, 04:20
" Maggie Mays " <snip> Funny, all I can think of in such a small place BananaBoi getting his dick sucked on the couch while pool was being played LOL To each his own but not my thing. I'm use to larger places GC reason still my favorite Kinnaree.WTF how did my name come up? I've been to MM once, talked to a bearded guy at the bar for under 5 minutes, and left. I'm a Kinnaree guy.
You sure you weren't thinking of Explorer with a tray of Tequilas and a harem of girls. Each girl competing in a special talent show to win the rights to be his next travel buddy.
LittleBigMan
09-20-24, 08:06
WTF how did my name come up? I've been to MM once, talked to a bearded guy at the bar for under 5 minutes, and left. I'm a Kinnaree guy.
You sure you weren't thinking of Explorer with a tray of Tequilas and a harem of girls. Each girl competing in a special talent show to win the rights to be his next travel buddy.No disrespect I remember you responded not that it happen at MM, if wrong person my apoligise!
You responded you enjoy GC sitting in lounge area getting a blowjob in open somehow that stuck in my head LOL.
LittleBigMan
09-20-24, 08:29
Another apologise!
As many know my grammar isn't where it suppose to be I wrote my experience quick read it back just now if I didn't write wouldn't know WTF the post was about.
Sorry but I guess BB part was OK, LOL.
Pimpampoumpipo
09-20-24, 15:49
I'm taking the keyboard to try a little financial recap of my last stay for those who are interested since after the buttocks the most recurrent subject concerns prices and expenses (and also one of those that unleashes the most passions). It is of course about expenses incurred on personal priorities and choices.
As for me, I wanted to have a rather quiet stay without traveling and without visiting, once is not customary, I stayed in Pattaya mainly, like a real retiree, to see how it feels.
Pattaya stay from August 21 to September 9, 2024 (20 days) + 2 days Bangkok:
- Direct return flight Paris <> Suvarnabhumi with Thai Airways in economy class: €877.
- Condo accommodation on soi Buakhaow about 50 m2, large swimming pool, quiet, rather well equipped, for me ideally located between WS and LK Metro (20 days): €790.
- Hotel next to Asok / Bangkok 4 stars on booking.com (2 days): €170.
- Girls (17 days of fucking here and there, mostly on ThaiFriendly this time and the last 5 days with my regular of the moment in VLT): €1074.
- Taxis, songtaews and motobike taxis: €175.
- Bars and gogos: €430.
- Food at the supermarket, take away, a bit of grab food and miscellaneous: €723 .
Total: €4,239 or averaged over the stay: €192 / day all inclusive.
Expenses on site (excluding flight, accommodation): €2,402 or €110 / day.
HorseTrader
09-20-24, 16:14
Expenses on site (excluding flight, accommodation): 2,402 or 110 / day.Thanks for that breakdown. My on site expenses are probably a bit higher, but not much. Numbers like that give newbies a baseline for budgeting a trip. I'm sure people have great trips for less than 110 Euros per day on site.
Pimpampoumpipo
09-20-24, 17:29
I'm sure people have great trips for less than 110 Euros per day on site.Yes of course. I eat mostly Western cuisine and I drink wine which is expensive on site in Thailand. You can find accommodation and flights much cheaper too. I have not detailed the content of the cost items, I might have the opportunity to do so on another occasion. Concerning the girls I had the opportunity to develop a little in previous posts.
Here it is just a question of illustrating what an envelope of expenses can be on a stay by an example on myself since it is the one I know best. So it is just a testimony. All expenses are eminently subjective and are subject to the choices and priorities of each person which will necessarily be different.
Explorer8939
09-20-24, 19:18
WTF how did my name come up? I've been to MM once, talked to a bearded guy at the bar for under 5 minutes, and left. I'm a Kinnaree guy.
You sure you weren't thinking of Explorer with a tray of Tequilas and a harem of girls. Each girl competing in a special talent show to win the rights to be his next travel buddy.WTF how did my name come up? I've never bought a tray of tequila water in my life. More fun to have the lady come to my condo to drink real tequila.
Anyway, I'm in Medellíand now.
ElMexicant
09-20-24, 23:11
I'm taking the keyboard to try a little financial recap of my last stay for those who are interested since after the buttocks the most recurrent subject concerns prices and expenses (and also one of those that unleashes the most passions). It is of course about expenses incurred on personal priorities and choices.
As for me, I wanted to have a rather quiet stay without traveling and without visiting, once is not customary, I stayed in Pattaya mainly, like a real retiree, to see how it feels.
Pattaya stay from August 21 to September 9, 2024 (20 days) + 2 days Bangkok:
- Direct return flight Paris <> Suvarnabhumi with Thai Airways in economy class: 877.
- Condo accommodation on soi Buakhaow about 50 m2, large swimming pool, quiet, rather well equipped, for me ideally located between WS and LK Metro (20 days): 790.
- Hotel next to Asok / Bangkok 4 stars on booking.com (2 days): 170.
- Girls (17 days of fucking here and there, mostly on ThaiFriendly this time and the last 5 days with my regular of the moment in VLT): 1074.
- Taxis, songtaews and motobike taxis: 175.
- Bars and gogos: 430.
- Food at the supermarket, take away, a bit of grab food and miscellaneous: 723 .
Total: 4,239 or averaged over the stay: 192 / day all inclusive.
Expenses on site (excluding flight, accommodation): 2,402 or 110 / day.So about per girl rate of $250 USD for short time or roughly 4850 Mex Pesos for pinoche. Ouch. Holy guacamole. But as long as you had a fun time. Next time, get your free breakfast at the Holiday Inn and save some baht. And one should walk more, it saves money and helps with longevity and health. My question, is the old city built above dead graves that lacking of decent hot croissants buns for 225 euros a fuck? One would think, there would be plenty of hot French maids available for that money spent.
UglyAzzMan
09-21-24, 00:21
Another apologise!
As many know my grammar isn't where it suppose to be I wrote my experience quick read it back just now if I didn't write wouldn't know WTF the post was about.
Sorry but I guess BB part was OK, LOL.Apologies accepted. Your Me E reference s were a bit strange to say the least.
I thought you might have been on the Bottle.
Total: 4,239 or averaged over the stay: 192 / day all inclusive.
Expenses on site (excluding flight, accommodation): 2,402 or 110 / day.I appreciate you posting this. While I think most visitors spend less than you did, I think Westerners should budget 90-100 Euros per day just to be safe. We often get requests on this board for how much money to bring and this would be helpful for a first time visitor.
..... I think Westerners should budget 90-100 Euros per day just to be safe......Damn! Am I really a cheap Charlie?
Damn! Am I really a cheap Charlie?Doubt you qualify as a Cheap Charlie. People come on the board from time to time asking how much money to bring and I think Pimpampoumpipo's post serves as a good starting point for budgeting. Obviously the currency exchange rate, western food, drinking habits, and quality of hotels matters. No doubt a decent Pattaya hotel, while reasonably priced, will cost more than a roach infested, 49 sq meter condo off the beaten path (and off the baht bus route) in Jomtien.
I appreciate you posting this. We often get requests on this board for how much money to bring and this would be helpful for a first time visitor.You are welcome
First time visitor please note my posts in the Pattaya Hotels thread from the last time I was in visitor mode: First Place I stayed was View Talay 6.
View Talay 6 remains my recommended choice for a first trip to Pattaya.Finished up visitor mode in View Talay 5 (17,000 THB / month).
A 49 m2 room that was completely remodeled with a full kitchen complete with oven. There was a breakfast nook where ATF would share our morning tea and meals she prepared for me. It had an ocean view, King Size Bed, 65" Television, Bathroom with rain shower, and shower massage wand. The room was completed with a couch, coffee table and a chase.
The building had 24 hours security, Laundry Shop, Massage shop, Law Firm, Travel Agency, and a fully stocked grocery store. The building sits right on a Baht bus route. Has an exit to the rear of the complex that it puts you right on the street. Cross it and you are on Jomtiem beach. Now I actually stayed there for more than a month. Did not see a single roach inside my building or my room. LOL!.
For those of little faith and less knowledge my independently google the reviews of View Talay 5. There is a full report on my perceptions of View Talay 5 for all who are interested. I got tired of the 20 minute Baht Bus ride into Central Pattaya. So that is why I would not recommend it for a first time visitor or anyone who wants to be in the middle of the action.
I was phasing out of visitor mode, easing myself off of the tourist economy and adjusting my lifestyle to one of continuous living. The distance did not prevent any girls off to Thai Friendly from visiting me nor did the charge extra. Even if it was 0200 they were there in 20 minutes +plus time for hair clothes and make up.
I have been here in Pattaya uninterrupted by trips to other countries with Thai girls for over a month. That gives me 365+ RONs. I'll put that number up against the RON count from any visitor currently posting. Holla!
At least Sub posts reports. Whether you love him or hate him, he contributes useful info.That's right. I am allover this shit!
How you like me now?
MongerUnleash
09-22-24, 22:15
For better privacy, I have removed myself from TF search. Only the ladies I send a message to can see my profile.I read your lengthy post about experience in Pattaya. I am a fellow Indian, average built and decent looking. This has been my experience too.
I have been to Pattaya back when I was 24 yrs old, then later when I was 28,32, 35 and early this year when I am in my early 40's. This has always been my experience. I am usually dressed decently, but not flashy. I leave my gold chain, ring, watch etc back in my room when I am mongering.
It does not matter how you look, these establishments are racists and don't want Indians there. It leaves a bad taste in your mouth when you Know that you have the money to spend and you would usually spend more than any average customer, but they just won't let you in.
Mostly the girls in soi 6 bars also ignore you.
The best bet is Thai Friendly, but it takes a lot of work to get the type of girls you like. I like young slim and petite girls. I usually message all the girls I like and be very upfront about my requirements. Like I want long time, BJ etc. It takes effort, but atleast you won't get rejected.
Also, in my experience, having a Thai girl with you, gets you entry to some places. I have never tried taking a girl to a go go bar, but clubs which deny you entry usually let you in if you are with a girl.
GoingInBig005
09-23-24, 08:31
My guess for why last high season was packed and high tourists numbers was the pent up demand from people not being able to travel due to Covid. We're well over a year now since the world reopened so to speak and travel across the globe has seen record numbers. But I think that post Covid demand starts to fizzle soon and places like Thailand won't see as busy high seasons for a while.
Global recession incoming, people's savings from Covid and government stimulus checks are about exhausted. Saw a stat that almost half Americans only have $1,000 or less in savings. I think that is likely indicative of the rest of the world.
Pattaya currently is pretty dead, especially compared to this time last year. I took a walk down Soi Pothole the other night and no customer in sight but a crap ton of ladies working and hollering for handsome man to buy drink. Honestly the ladyboys were better looking than the ladies on Soi Pothole.
I get multiple massages a day and all the ladies complain about a lack of customers and how slow it is.
Still amazes me on how many ladies insist on 1,500-2,500 for ST with so little customers. They're in for a rude awakening once the global economy really starts to melt, they'll be begging for 800 baht ST soon enough. Just my humble prediction.I really wish this price prediction would have panned out LOL.
For example when I was a visitor: My food costs were all over the place. Insanely high for Farang food. Next to nothing for Thai Food.Example: Ribeye from Australia - 890 THB; Khao Man Gai - 50 THB;.
Question is still on the table if anyone is consistently paying less than 1000 THB for Short Time. If not, should I increase my price point to 1200 THB and pay for Long Time?
I really wish this price prediction would have panned out LOL.It can happen, you just need to make it happen. We have been instructed that all you have to do is just ask for it. The person who said this will remain unnamed.
Explorer8939
09-23-24, 17:02
My guess for why last high season was packed and high tourists numbers was the pent up demand from people not being able to travel due to Covid. We're well over a year now since the world reopened so to speak and travel across the globe has seen record numbers. But I think that post Covid demand starts to fizzle soon and places like Thailand won't see as busy high seasons for a while.
Global recession incoming, people's savings from Covid and government stimulus checks are about exhausted. Saw a stat that almost half Americans only have $1,000 or less in savings. I think that is likely indicative of the rest of the world.
Pattaya currently is pretty dead, especially compared to this time last year. I took a walk down Soi Pothole the other night and no customer in sight but a crap ton of ladies working and hollering for handsome man to buy drink. Honestly the ladyboys were better looking than the ladies on Soi Pothole.
I get multiple massages a day and all the ladies complain about a lack of customers and how slow it is..Well, High Season last year was so crowded, I bailed from Pattaya in early January and didn't come back for two months. And it was still crowded in late March.
There was no global recession. Plus, the US stock market is skyrocketing, so lots of people have disposable income.
I would look forward to another crowded High Season.
Pro tip: don't come to Pattaya between December 20 and January 8, unless you like big crowds and high prices.
GettingTang
09-23-24, 20:14
As my travel date to land of the smiles nears, random questions have been popping into my mind. The latest is about lady drinks. I've got a few questions surrounding this topic. I know nothing is a given, but as a general rule, when you purchase a lady drink is there legit alcohol in it or is it just BS? These women truly enjoy drinking with you getting a little loose maybe a party atmosphere or they just pouring some soda or colored water into a glass for them? LOL also, is there a difference at the gentlemen clubs versus the gogo bars, I've always viewed the idea of purchasing lady drinks as an opportunity to gauge how the girl might be in your room with you. If she's flirty and playful and just seemingly having a fun open personality, then the lady drink would seem like it's totally worth it to spend a few just to feel her out. What are the chances you can get into some heavy petting in the bar going both directions if you purchased a few lady drinks? Is this common? I've read that it happens on this forum, but I wonder how common it is for her to get a little feel in and you get feel her up a little well before you take her out. And last question surrounding this topic, assuming you get a date like maybe off a tie friendly what are the chances that some of these girls are down for like having drinks getting loose, more of a party type atmosphere rather than just wham Bam and leaving? As always, any information or advice is greatly appreciated. I need to make the most out of this trip.
Mr Enternational
09-23-24, 22:39
as a general rule, when you purchase a lady drink is there legit alcohol in it or is it just BS? These women truly enjoy drinking with you getting a little loose maybe a party atmosphere or they just pouring some soda or colored water into a glass for them? These are hookers. They do not need to be drinking to get a little loose. The purpose of a lady drink is for the bar to make money and the girl to make money. Many girls live off lady drinks and are not there to fuck. Are you going there to fuck or to find a drinking buddy? If option 1 then I suggest you ask about fucking before you start buying drinks. If option 2, then cheers.
As my travel date to land of the smiles nears, random questions have been popping into my mind. The latest is about lady drinks. I've got a few questions surrounding this topic. I know nothing is a given, but as a general rule, when you purchase a lady drink is there legit alcohol in it or is it just BS? These women truly enjoy drinking with you getting a little loose maybe a party atmosphere or they just pouring some soda or colored water into a glass for them? LOL also, is there a difference at the gentlemen clubs versus the gogo bars, I've always viewed the idea of purchasing lady drinks as an opportunity to gauge how the girl might be in your room with you. If she's flirty and playful and just seemingly having a fun open personality, then the lady drink would seem like it's totally worth it to spend a few just to feel her out. What are the chances you can get into some heavy petting in the bar going both directions if you purchased a few lady drinks? Is this common? I've read that it happens on this forum, but I wonder how common it is for her to get a little feel in and you get feel her up a little well before you take her out. And last question surrounding this topic, assuming you get a date like maybe off a tie friendly what are the chances that some of these girls are down for like having drinks getting loose, more of a party type atmosphere rather than just wham Bam and leaving? As always, any information or advice is greatly appreciated. I need to make the most out of this trip.Don't overthink it dude. See it, buy it a drink if necessary, bar fine it, fuck it, repeat.
If you want to play the flirty and playful game or spend time with them, go for it. Hanging with an english challenged girl with a second grade education is fine for some folks I guess, I just want to get them gobbling my minime as fast as possible so I can go have fun with another.
I really wish this price prediction would have panned out LOL.For what it's worth, I still anticipate this happening, no one can predict when a crash will happen, but happen it will as all economic cycles are cyclical. I'm American, most Americans are now paycheck to paycheck. The US just cut interest rates which signals their concern over the economy and we are close to all out war in the middle east and Ukraine and America is at the center of both those wars. Shit can ugly out of nowhere and fast. And don't forget, markets started crashing on August 5th due to Japan and it's policy of zero interest. Once Japan decides to start raising interest rates, all economies will crash, August 5th is proof of that.
Enough economics, I spent a good portion of August and September in Pattaya and BKK. The girls in Pattaya were desperate and the girls I would meet would constantly text me to repeat, at a level I never experienced before. It's a sign of things to come in the future.
Just one man's 2 cents.
Pro tip: don't come to Pattaya between December 20 and January 8, unless you like big crowds and high prices.I wouldn't if I didn't have to, but I have had to leave my holiday until late this year and there is the bonus of extra time in Thailand due to Christmas and New Years Bank Holidays.
The next trip will be better, I arrive just after Songkran.
Explorer8939
09-24-24, 13:29
For what it's worth, I still anticipate this happening, no one can predict when a crash will happen, but happen it will as all economic cycles are cyclical. I'm American, most Americans are now paycheck to paycheck. The US just cut interest rates which signals their concern over the economy and we are close to all out war in the middle east and Ukraine and America is at the center of both those wars. Shit can ugly out of nowhere and fast. And don't forget, markets started crashing on August 5th due to Japan and it's policy of zero interest. Once Japan decides to start raising interest rates, all economies will crash, August 5th is proof of that.
Enough economics, I spent a good portion of August and September in Pattaya and BKK. The girls in Pattaya were desperate and the girls I would meet would constantly text me to repeat, at a level I never experienced before. It's a sign of things to come in the future..Lots of gloom and doom in your post.
Here's news for you: August and September are very quiet in Pattaya. Every year. Things start picking up in October, and by December, no one will be texting you.
Mr Enternational
09-24-24, 16:24
I'm American, most Americans are now paycheck to paycheck.Always have been. We just have a thing called credit. Buy now, pay later.
Lots of gloom and doom in your post.
Here's news for you: August and September are very quiet in Pattaya. Every year. Things start picking up in October, and by December, no one will be texting you.No gloom and doom, simply being prepared for whatever transpires in the world.
And yes, I only go to Thailand in low season, there's a few months of high season and then the same girls will be sexting again. Rinse wash and repeat.
LittleBigMan
09-25-24, 01:23
It is a disease a addiction we get use too. I still remember my first credit card from BOA, started me at $150.00.
Easy need something flip card out! Of course somethings tough to avoid car and house.
Not sure how I did it but at 55 when I left my job came here I was debt free the building I own rented out more than covered the mortgage. Last twenty debt free no checks to write it is a joy one of the greatest feelings.
Long ago here they started to issue cards to Thai, Behind a Thai in grocery or ATM, long wait many time they walk away no groceries or money. Motorbikes sold no down repossessed after 3 months.
UglyAzzMan
09-25-24, 06:11
Can someone go over all the name Changes of sgogos on Walk Street. Seems new Signage. New breed of money laundering,. Will see their money going into the metaverse and never coming back.
Hello girls hotter than the dancers is the Norm.
Last time I remember 7 hot girls on Soi 6. Two days in I've spotted 2.
Lots of SUB type girls. They are Everywhere.
UglyAzzMan
09-25-24, 06:13
Stock Markets will never Crash as long as FEd is printing money.
I could use a 25 % downturn. I got some losing credit call spread that need Help.
Go Pattaya.
Expat American
09-25-24, 07:03
As my travel date to land of the smiles nears, random questions have been popping into my mind. The latest is about lady drinks. I've got a few questions surrounding this topic. I know nothing is a given, but as a general rule, when you purchase a lady drink is there legit alcohol in it or is it just BS? These women truly enjoy drinking with you getting a little loose maybe a party atmosphere or they just pouring some soda or colored water into a glass for them? LOL also, is there a difference at the gentlemen clubs versus the gogo bars, I've always viewed the idea of purchasing lady drinks as an opportunity to gauge how the girl might be in your room with you. If she's flirty and playful and just seemingly having a fun open personality, then the lady drink would seem like it's totally worth it to spend a few just to feel her out. What are the chances you can get into some heavy petting in the bar going both directions if you purchased a few lady drinks? Is this common? I've read that it happens on this forum, but I wonder how common it is for her to get a little feel in and you get feel her up a little well before you take her out. And last question surrounding this topic, assuming you get a date like maybe off a tie friendly what are the chances that some of these girls are down for like having drinks getting loose, more of a party type atmosphere rather than just wham Bam and leaving? As always, any information or advice is greatly appreciated. I need to make the most out of this trip.Depends on the venue. Gogos like Windmill and Kink you will have a naked girl grind you and you can grope all you want and make out for a few minutes. Other gogos they will come sit next to you and pretend to be some chaste princess. GC's they will expect to be manhandled while beer bars they will try to get you to play dice games or connect four. Up to you.
PinkieSucker
09-25-24, 09:13
So sad to hear from you your troubles in Pattaya and Phuket EihTooms.
My only guess is that you must be a not so handsum man. 5555.
Seriously, come see me in Rawai next time you are in Phuket, and I'm pretty sure we can swing those odds around to way more in your favour of getting it as wanted.Exactly where in Rawai do you find such chicks bro. If this is the case I will definitely come to Rawai on my next Thailand trip. On my last week long trip to Bangkok and fucking every single night, I only got one chick to let me BBFS + creampie.
Intrepid123
09-25-24, 13:14
As my travel date to land of the smiles nears, random questions have been popping into my mind. The latest is about lady drinks. I've got a few questions surrounding this topic. I know nothing is a given, but as a general rule, when you purchase a lady drink is there legit alcohol in it or is it just BS? These women truly enjoy drinking with you getting a little loose maybe a party atmosphere or they just pouring some soda or colored water into a glass for them? LOL also, is there a difference at the gentlemen clubs versus the gogo bars, I've always viewed the idea of purchasing lady drinks as an opportunity to gauge how the girl might be in your room with you. If she's flirty and playful and just seemingly having a fun open personality, then the lady drink would seem like it's totally worth it to spend a few just to feel her out. What are the chances you can get into some heavy petting in the bar going both directions if you purchased a few lady drinks? Is this common? I've read that it happens on this forum, but I wonder how common it is for her to get a little feel in and you get feel her up a little well before you take her out. And last question surrounding this topic, assuming you get a date like maybe off a tie friendly what are the chances that some of these girls are down for like having drinks getting loose, more of a party type atmosphere rather than just wham Bam and leaving? As always, any information or advice is greatly appreciated. I need to make the most out of this trip.One at a time:
1- Lady drinks more often than not have alcohol. Sometimes when the girl doesn't want to drink she will ask a soda or orange juice, very rarely you'll see a fake drink (water instead of tequila for example).
2- Getting hands on down at the bar really depends on the girl and the location. Do not expect it much to happen in open air bars of course. The best place for that is a dark corner in a dim gentlemen's club. The ladies that are most likely to get raunchy are usually the ones who have been in the business a long time. The new ones can be shy and not do much.
3- Having a freelancer hang out with you (for "free" really depends on what kind of guy you are. If you're young, fun and give them a good vibe they'll likely take the initiative and invite you as soon as the drinking / party subject comes up. If you're a grumpy old man that just appears to try to get the most of every situation then it's unlikely they'll want to spend any extra minute with you after the deed is done. If they think you have money there is also the possibility they'll just invite you over and later ask you to pay for the drinks (which can include several of her friends as well).
Im very interested to see how these uzbekis look. Perhaps someone on the ground can get a picture of inside the club or explain where exactly these Russian FLs are standing in the club. I might as well check it out on my next visit but based on google map picture reviews, I dont see any non-indian women, only massive crowds of a bunch of guys.These Indian clubs have Insta pages, and they post regularly there. Just search and you will get a glimpse of the girls there.
Lots of gloom and doom in your post........Unfortunately doom and gloom is the reality today. Banks are insolvent and I believe after the elections are done, sometime in early 2025, there will be runs on banks and you will not be able to take money out. Today banks are telling customers that they are lenders and as such unsecured creditors. When you can't get money out they will tell you you should have read the fine print. The FDIC is BS in those circumstances. Best bet is to settle down with the hottest girl now as you soon would not have money to monger. Work on her mind to get her to love you even without money.
P.S. Buy gold and silver.
Coolie High
09-26-24, 01:11
Unfortunately doom and gloom is the reality today. Banks are insolvent and I believe after the elections are done, sometime in early 2025, there will be runs on banks and you will not be able to take money out. Today banks are telling customers that they are lenders and as such unsecured creditors. When you can't get money out they will tell you you should have read the fine print. The FDIC is BS in those circumstances. Best bet is to settle down with the hottest girl now as you soon would not have money to monger. Work on her mind to get her to love you even without money.
P.S. Buy gold and silver.Brother Turgid unfortunately folks been saying that same rhetoric for decades now. Remember back in 2008 when the economy collapsed when banks where really going under left and right that the end was here. Yet here we are. We now just got to navigate thru the "Weird WTF Is This", when it comes to the banks, economy etc like we did when covid turn everbodys life upside down. We'll be fine. Just got to hold on to your cool.
UglyAzzMan
09-26-24, 01:58
Procrastinating Kills.
Was going to stay at I rover Hotel this weekend. $14 a night. I had 3 days to book. Log in today and it's SOLD Out. OMG. High season is here.
I was looking up various sites for a newbie visit to Pattaya and found this report from are*ddit. Note: I did not write this, so don't ask me any questions. I pasted it here for the benefit of others in the same position as me.
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Walking Street: it's a very long street leads to adult Disney world, it also has a couple of Soi's (soi means side street that connects to the main road) Walking street is the home of Pattaya's nightlife, it has everything, so expect to see gogo's, open air bars, live music bars, by the hour rooms, clubs, disco's, restaurants, freelancers, hotels, toilets, restaurants, ping pong venues, go cart tract, boutique stores, 7-11, street performers, even a fucking McDonald's and Burger King, it's really fucking amazing, you will see things, smell things, witness things, TAKE part in things you won't believe, fuck that movie hang over, they went to tame Bangkok not walking street, walking street has all the things below, did I mention it's amazing, you can " short time " and "Long time " here, some venues have on-site facilities, and also walking street is considered the gem of Pattaya nightlife so its going to be more expensive for drinks and bar fines, and donations to girls college funds.
You need deep pockets for walking street to engage with the girls.
You'll have to buy lady drinks to engage, pay bar fines here, no negotiation here, these girls want the princess treatment so your it cost $$ to spend time with them.
The Windmill, Sapphire.
Open around 7 pm, best to go around 11 pm or 12 am when various places forget where they put their panties, so expect all nude at some of the well known places.
Soi 6 : it's is a sight to behold, hot girls everywhere, sooo many girls vying to get your attention that it can be extremely overwhelming, just take a walk down this very long street and you'll be hooked, you can expect to mainly see open air bars and a few closed door gogo's, this is mainly a "short time " option area, usually if you choose a friend here you will use the venues on-site facilities, many like this area of Pattaya cause you don't have to necessarily buy lady drinks or play games, barely any ice breaking, you can quite literally see a girl that meets your fancy, tell her " short time " and in a few minutes you'll be upstairs or over in one of the by the hour rooms or pay a larger bar fine and take her out and go on an adventure.
This is a much cheaper option because of it being a short time area with on-site rooms, which means you can skip the lady drinks and even your drinks, the bar fine is very cheap because it's for the on-site room rental.
So many girls, I'm not kidding, all trying to get you to buy them a drink and take them upstairs or out of the bar.
This should NOT be a area you go to if your not ready for girls constantly grabbing at your dick.
Sexy in the City, Ruby Club.
No negotiation here.
Open around 3 pm.
All girls usually wear a cute uniform with their bars name on it or bra and panties, their is no nudity here till you get upstairs.
LK Metro: it's a mini walking street and boasts all that walking street has to offer and just as amazing and spectacular to boot, everyone used to come here to get all the benefits of walking street at a cheaper price but currently LK Metro is exploding with new life,(which means the prices went up on everything, and so did the talent as well) and in my opinion is LK Metro is outshining walking street at the moment, so the days of buying NY strip for flank steak prices are a thing of the past now.
Basically walking street.
You have to buy lady drinks to engage, bar fines, no negotiation here.
KINK, Sugar Sugar.
Open around 7 pm, best to go around 11 pm or 12 am when various places forget where they put their panties, so expect all nude at some of the well known places.
Soi Buakhao: the home of Tree Town Night Market, expect to see lots of street food and restaurants and other vendors and open air bars, Lots of freelancers here, if you like to get ripped with the expats come here, very friendly place to hangout as well, used to be tiny but became a behemoth during covid, its constantly improving trying to find its place in Pattaya's nightlife scene.
It's a pretty cool concept, freelancer heaven.
Cheap, food, girls, won't break the bank.
Open during the day.
Being this is freelance heaven the girls here are in plain clothes, no nudity until you take her somewhere private.
You have the option to buy lady drinks or even the girl a meal, but don't have to.
You can negotiate.
Soi Bonkot 8: Home of the Blow Job bars and more, this a row of venues that are very nice actually, they have full bars and usually cheap beers, usually full of 7's and on occasion a 10 (farm fresh girl that has yet to realize her value yet) they have on-site rooms for ST, these places have curtains if you don't want to use their on-site rooms, they call them BJ bars cause I lot of guys come her just for that and "forget" to close the curtain.
BJ's and more, these girls are sex-sperts at BJ's.
Cheap, very cheap.
If you have friends with you I recommend coming to these because you can usually have the entire place to yourselves.
Open early in the afternoon.
Bar fines, no negotiations.
Pirates, Purple, 007.
Soi Bonkot 5: gentleman's clubs here, they are gogo's with short time rooms, or you can close the curtain and play a wild game of peak a boo if you don't want to go upstairs, you can LT the girls her as well, some gentleman's clubs are known to have special shows, they usually have a drink policy, which is the more drinks you buy the more clothes come off, naughty stuff happens on the regular at gc's.
On-site rooms.
Tiny bit cheaper than a usual gogo.
Clothes off drink polices.
Bar fines.
No negotiations.
Babylon, Miami.
Soi Bommerang: gentleman's clubs here, they are gogo's with short time rooms, or you can close the curtain and play a wild game of peak a boo if you don't want to go upstairs, you can LT the girls her as well, some gentleman's clubs are known to have special shows, they usually have a drink policy, which is the more drinks you buy the more clothes come off, naughty stuff happens on the regular at gc's.
On-site rooms.
Tiny bit cheaper than a usual gogo.
Clothes off drink polices.
Bar fines.
No negotiations.
Heaven Above, Screamers.
Soi Chaiyapoon: gentleman's clubs here, they are gogo's with short time rooms, or you can close the curtain and play a wild game of peak a boo if you don't want to go upstairs, you can LT the girls her as well, some gentleman's clubs are known to have special shows, they usually have a drink policy, which is the more drinks you buy the more clothes come off, naughty stuff happens on the regular at gc's.
On-site rooms.
Tiny bit cheaper than a usual gogo.
Clothes off drink polices.
Bar fines.
No negotiations.
Maggie Mays, High Rollers.
Beer Bar complexes: Huge area's with just open bars and freelancers, sit down, drink, usually doesn't take long for a freelancer to join you asking for a drink or if you want company.
Cheap beer.
Freelancers.
No bar fines.
You can negotiate.
Clubs and Disco's: Places to. Umm. Dance, always free to get in these places, Freelancers are here in abundance, just pull up to a table order a drink, and usually a girl will come over to see if you want some company, if not just walk over to a girl at a table and offer to buy her a drink and see where the night takes you.
1. Expensive drinks 2. Freelancers 3. You can negotiation here.
Ok, Are you still reading?
Now for some terms and what they mean and what to expect as well.
Bar fine: this is a fee you must pay the gogo to take the girl away from the bar, the girls in the gogo's and gentleman's clubs main job is to get you to buy lady drinks, therefore if you take her away from the bar the bar will lose revenue so changing you a fee will help them recover whatever she might of sold in her absence, bar fines vary and depend on the girls status in the gogo and what time you are bar fining her, usually 1500 to maximum of 2000 baht, example: girl is a stunner /10 and you want to bar fine her at 9 pm expect the bar fine to be really high, usually 2000,3 hours later at 12 am it will be 1500, Walking Street and LK Metro will higher bar fines than a gentleman's club or Soi 6.
Bar fine cost and variables.
Gogo bar fines on walking street: depending on the girl will start at 1000 and max out at 2000, at 12 am the usual bar fine will be 1500 for 8,9 and 10's, any higher might be for 2 reasons, either she's a spicy 10 or she doesn't really want to go with you and told a you high amount to scare you away.
Any place that has on-site rooms (which include gentleman's clubs, Soi 6, BJ bars) the bar fine will be cheaper, which starts at 300 and maxes out at 500, it doesn't matter what time or how hot the girl is, these prices never change.
If you take a girl from a place with on-site rooms you will have to pay a higher bar fine which is usually 800-1000.
Bar fines are the same for ST and LT.
Bar fining isn't as prevalent as you might think it is, a girl might get bar fined for a ST 6 times on Monday and have 0 bar fines for the rest of the week, or get LT'ed and 3 days straight and return to the venue and get 0 barfines for the rest of the month.
Why? Well, It's simple, money. $$ Pattaya isn't for the cheapo's anymore, 7 out of 10 guys you see in a venue are " tire kickers " they just have enough to get a girl 2 lady drinks and try to play (feel her up, finger, lick, kiss) with her as much as they can before the girl realizes they have no money and walk away and never return to them.
Times you need to know about: the.
Short time: duration of companionship, 1-2 hours, usually 1 pop, but maybe 2 If she feels sorry if your a 5 pump chump, usually you play chess at the venue or at a by the hour room and sometimes if your hotel isn't far away she'll accompany you there, ST is usually the same everywhere in Pattaya either 1000 or maximum of 1500, since it's short time she doesn't expect much from you, she's not expecting you to take her dancing or drinking or even out to a nice meal at beefeaters, best to pick a girl with a quirky and outgoing personality for short time so you don't get a starfish or a phone checker.
Long Time: duration of companionship, depending on the time you bar fined her, with long time she will definitely be coming with you anywhere you want to go and wake up with you in the morning, Long time price varies, usually 3000-4000 or maximum of 8000 baht, the amount is up to her not the venue so one guy she might say 4000 an another guy she might say 10,000, don't FUCK UP THE QUESTIONS SHE ASKS YOU, she's going to expect some things, you most likely have her for the night and into the morning, she's been hungry since she clocked in, she wants to party, she picked YOU to party the night away with, so fucking live it up bro. Show her your the king of Staten Island and you'll definitely be rewarded for it.
The dreaded lady drink or LD for short: the.
Lady drinks: special drinks that you buy for the girl your interested in, its her job to try her best to get you to buy as many as she can, she usually has a quota to meet each day, and sometimes a small commission from each drink sold, they are usually always a soda type drink if you don't specify what drink you want her to drink, if you want to drink shots with you, then her shots might be watered down cause a drunk gogo girl can't sell lady drinks or dance 555, you don't have to buy lady drinks if you don't want to, but if you don't you will be ignored, oh, and the more you buy her drinks the more she'll know your worth her time.
555: its the Thai version of LOL 😆.
Freelancers: a freelancer is a sex worker that doesn't work in gogo, soi 6, or a gentleman's club, the have no boss, they are independent, they can be found in many different areas, such as " coconut bar / beach road " open air bars, clubs, and disco's and sometimes in hotel lobbies, you might find one in 7-11 or even Central Festival Mall, freelancers are significantly cheaper because there is no bar fine or lady drinks, it's just a quick negotiation and it off to your hotel room to play connect four, the majority of freelancers are on Thaifriendly.com, they usually have their own transportation if you use Thaifriendly.com to get them to come to your hotel, but if not a 100 baht tip for her travel expense is a nice thing to do, usually 1000-1500 baht to show her your box of crayons, some guys prefer freelancers because of cost and less interaction, but I'm just going to give my two cents about freelancers, you could get a bad apple or a starfish going this route, there could be less safety when it comes to items in your room because this girl has no mamasan (a mamasan is the boss lady of the gogo / bar, she takes care of the girls and keeps them in line) so she might get sticky fingers.
Online / app for freelancers is Thaifriendly.com Tinder is full of freelancers TFMI, if your a pro and in the know, detailed reviews including services.
Coconut Bar: it's what everyone calls Beach road, Beach road is the road that leads to walking street, around dusk you'll start to see girls hang out under the palm trees, they ain't there for the shade, you'll also notice they have their phone in their hand probably checking Thaifriendly.com 555, if your interested in what you see, you most likely will need to make the first move, say sawa-dee-krab (that means Hello,) then Wai (a Wai, put your hands together and make a slight bow) then say " short time " then she will start negotiations, if you agree she'll follow you to your hotel if it's close by to her motorbike or might even take you to a by the hour room to help you fold your laundry.
Gogo's: are indoor venues that have girls dancing on stage, every gogo is different, some gogo's have their girls wear skits with no panties, then there are some that are totally nude, some gogo's are more hands on and in these places the girls will be very friendly, the gogo girls main objective is to sell you " lady drinks " make her quota and hopefully get 1 or 2 " short times " if she's lucky in before 12 am when they will be looking for a whale to " Long time " them, gogo's cost more for everything (drinks, lady drinks, bar fines, college donation fee,) some gogo's have spectacular shows where a group of girls will do a choreographed pole show, some gogo's have a special part of the dance stage where some crazy shit happens, (toys) make sure to trim your finger nails and bring a napkin along to wipe your face if you know what I mean, 555.
I rarely short time, I usually always long time, and I might spend more money than average but. Basically, this is what I always do in a gogo and have never once been told no, so follow these tips and your be wearing a panty crown by morning.
Gogo girls always expect the most money they can get for their services, and if their in a gogo they most likely know their value.
Rank of cuteness and be cups and what type of college donation they will quote you:
7's - 2000 baht 8's - 3000 baht 9's - 4000-6000 baht 10's - 5000- 8000 baht.
Now, lets roleplay what you should do in a gogo to take Ploy home to meet your cat.
Sit down and enjoy the scenery, don't be afraid to take in the views.
After sitting for about a minute, a staff member will come over and ask you to buy a drink, buy a drink from the drink menu.
If you see a girl you like, eye fuck her, or go up to the stage and tip her, or if your shy about doing that give your tip to the staff member to give to her, now she knows where she needs to go when she's done dancing.
When she comes over to thank you for the tip, she will sit next to you, or even on your lap in some places.
Now the game begins, she will ask you to buy her a lady drink, you'll drink together and she'll ask you some questions to get to know you and understand what you want, in-between questions she'll ask for more lady drinks, buy'them, oh, and do some flirting, example: tell her how beautiful she is, talk about her kitty, tell her she has the cutest nipples you have ever seen, etc.
Eventually she will have to dance again.
Keep tipping her, keep being flirty.
She will definitely come back to you when she's finished her dance set.
Most likely she'll ask for another lady drink.
Depending on what time it is, this might be when you tell her you want to bar fine her, you don't ask to bar fine her, asking is simps, you tell her " I barfine you" she will then ask "short time" or "Long time".
Tell her Long time, and if she agrees she will then tell you her price for long time, if you agree, (and don't you fucking dare try to negotiate a gogo girl, this isn't the coconut bar / beach road) she will tell you she'll be back in a minute, she has to go tell the mamasan of your intentions.
The mamasan will come over to you and tell you what the bar fine is for her, if you agree she will take your money, then the girl will come back all smiles, she will then tell you she needs to go get changed, after 10 minutes she'll come out in her street clothes and you both can leave now.
What you do now is up to you, you have her till the morning.
Party time, go to a restaurant, go drinking, go clubbing, go to another gogo and pick her up a tag team partner, your the king tonight.
Did you have eyes on other girls in her gogo? Spend money on her, treat her well and those girls will Long time with you as well cause your LT will sing your praises.
Soapy massage parlors: a venue with lots of girls that will give you a special and unique massage, I fucking love soapies, I have make sure to always have 2 regular girls I see, being a regular and treating them exceptionally well equals awesome experiences every time, my girls talk dirty and we bang before the massage and after: the.
What to expect from a soapy massage and how it's done.
When you enter the venue you will see what is referred to as the "fish bowl" beautiful girls on a stage or chairs, they are usually siting in colored sections, the colors are the prices for her services / rank.
Sit down, enjoy the view, take a moment to say Hi to the any girls waving to you trying to get your attention to pick them.
A staff member will come by shortly to ask you to buy a drink.
After the staff member drops off your drink he or she will ask you who you want, Pick your girl, advice. Pick the girl or girls that are going out of their way to get your attention and not the hot girl on her phone that could care less that your there cause she clearly saw you and is clearly passing on you, maybe she just got done a soapy and wants some alone time?
The staff member then will take you to the front desk and you will then pay for massage 7. You might have to wait for a few minutes for the girl you picked to come over to you, she has to go get her tackle box full of soaps and stuffs 8. Meet and greet time, she then will beckon you to follow her to a private room 8. When you walk into this room you will definitely notice some things.
A tub 2. Air mattress.
A bed.
In nicer venues, Mirrors on the walls and the ceiling.
Ok, now here is what's going to happen after you enter the room, she will control the pace of everything, she will start to draw the tub and make it soapy, around this time a staff member will come in a ask you to buy yet another drink and ask if you will buy the lady a drink as well, after the staff member comes back with the drink she will then close and lock the door, meet and greet time again, then she will tell or motion you to undress and she will undress as well, get in the tub, she will now rub a dub dub you now, depending on if she is in to you cause your a regular of hers and big tipper will decide if any hanky panky happens in the tub, if not, expect a good scubbing especially your naughty bits, after she's got you good and washed she will leave the tub and procede to get that air mattress good and soapy, she will take you out of the tub and on to the soaped up air matress, now its time for the soapy body to body massage, she basically will kneed your back, legs ect. Then body surf on you for a bit, she'll flip you over and body surf some more, then you'll stand up, a quick dip back in the tub then the final rinse off and towel off, now it's time to lay on the bed and wait for her to tidy up everything, when she's done she'll towel off and join you on the bed, time to play checkers, when you are done playing you'll get dress, kiss and a hug, tip 1000-2000, then tell her to message you again on Line when its best to come tomorrow for another session.
Ping pong gogo's 🏓 : while walking on walking street you might encounter some guys with a very explicit posters and ask you if you want to see a live sex show, if you do just say yes and they will escort to a place that is doing it, the ping pong show is the live sex show, it is something wild to experience, a once in a lifetime thing to see, but. Beware. You have to make a payment before you enter and then of course buy yourself a very overpriced and watered down drink, the show doesn't start until they get enough sales, when they do, the show will start. 555 enjoy, by the way the show includes a hell of alot more than just ping pong balls, you'll see all kinds of things a pussy can do, shoot darts, pull out razor blades, can a pussy smoke a cigarette? Etc. After each "performance" a sexy girl will go around with a tip bucket, during the show their will be girls trying to get lady drinks off you, oh, and you can Short time the drink girls too if you so desire, most of these places have on-site rooms And for those that call it a rip off, its not a rip off, they gave you what you thought it was going to be, yes, the drinks sucks (really, who comes to Pattaya for the drinks) yes, your going to see things you might not of wanted too, It's a once in a life time experience cause no girl your ever going to meet is going to just start popping balls out her coin slot.
Open air beer bars: it's a open air bar, lots of seats and tables, sit down and order a drink and before you know it a girl will come over and sit with you, these girls are usually freelancers looking for short times, some of these bars have a colored sign or something like that for you to turn up or down to let the ladies know you want some company, they also have tvs and music playing, since it's open air of course there is no air conditioning but lots of fans instead, these bars fill up pretty quick when the sun goes down, beer here is usually reasonably priced, Expats come here to forget about their lives for awhile, people come here to people watch as well.
BJ bars: these are venues where the specifically cater in one thing, what they do is. Umm. Its in the name, most have private rooms or booths with curtains, when you go in you will see girls, if your not ready being you just came in from the heat their is usually a full bar with tvs so they don't mind if you get a drink and cool off first, when your ready, pick one and she'll take you to a booth or private room, sometimes you'll be asked to buy a lady drink, if not she'll motion for you to take off your pants and sit down, she will then take out some wet naps and clean your junk, she'll inspect it as well, when she's done she'll get to work on ya, don't worry, these girls could suck chrome off a bumper, lots of guys love these venues cause these girls are great at what they do and can go back to the bar and get some drinks and go back for seconds when their up for it again.
How to pull off a successful threesome in Pattaya, This is a common sense question, you ask the girl if she eats pussy, like really likes it, you got to make sure she's not just being ok with giving her "sisters" a few licks, but really likes it, she'll either say no or maybe send you to the girl that does, when you get that girl you start the game, then when the ice is good and broke you ask her who SHE wants to bar fine and have "fun" with tonight, either there is a girl or girls she has her eye on or she'll take you to a gogo that has lesbians and pick from there, when you get to the hotel pace yourself and do you best not to become the third wheel 555.
Terminology: Butterfly. You prefer to go from flower to flower rather than enjoy just one bud or in other words. You want to bar fine other girls in the venue and not cause any issues with the first girl you bar fined.
The girls know and understand and accept this terminology.
During the courtship / ice breaking, she's going to ask you "how long you stay in Pattaya" or "how long your vacation", within this conversation make sure to simply tell her that your a bit of a butterfly, say the word. She might even tease you a bit: the.
Now that the girl knows your preference she will then be perfectly ok with you seeing other girls within the venue, no jealously, no loss of face, just make sure to be respectful and buy a lady drink for your past conquest if you see her again, (she might even come over and be your wingman).
555.
Be a butterfly. And you'll be bouncing from one to another and having a blast in Pattaya.
Some helpful websites:
Pattay-addicts.com : it's one of the most active Pattaya night life forums on the planet, when you get membership status you get to access to TFMI.
Thaifriendly.com : it's the freelancers best friend, this is where they post, its like them clocking in for their night shift.
Smooci.com : this is a professional website that escort companies post their girls on, its specifically Bangkok area but throw in another 3000 baht and they'll take a 2 hour taxi ride to your Pattaya hotel.
European / Russian girls: 1 hour- 10,000 baht, 2 hour- 18,000 baht, 8 hour- 25,000 baht Social apps the girls use to communicate with you, I only give this information out if I meet your personally.
How to best use Thaifriendly: ThaiFriendly is easy mode, be honest.
If your not getting results YOU know why. Its you, your profile sucks.
As stated above the best ways to get results is:
Photos, a picture of you posing in front of a Pattaya landmark does wonders,(mine is me smiling in front of the Hilton Pattaya sign) a picture of you having fun even better (mine is me Partying at Insomina) these pictures gives her a heads up with what she might have to deal with (race, size, hygine) and also it could be proof that you might actually be in Pattaya, as stated their are a lot of tire kickers on ThaiFriendly, think of it from her prospective, you have no pictures, you might not even be real, if she gets a taxi and your not there she fucked, and also its probably scarry as fuck knocking on that door not having even the slightest idea what's beyond it so seeing sorta what you look like might get her to respond back to you.
State in your profile that YOU ARE IN PATTAYA, why are you even on ThaiFriendly when your not in Pattaya? You might think to yourself that your making plans. Hookups. 555, NOPE. You think she is making sure she is waiting for you on Feb. 12th when you arrive? 555 Stay off ThaiFriendly till your in the fucking airport, don't tease the kittens! If you can't bare to stay off it then use TFMI, see the reviews, book mark them, and maybe. Just maybe. She'll be around when you make your way back to the Kingdom 3-6 months later. LOL.
Get the Premium membership, it's worth it, your responses are instant, and ThaiFriendly works more efficiently with it.
Also State in your profile what you want, but don't go into too much detail, make it short and sweet, tell them your in Pattaya, you want to party, you want to boom boom, you want ST / LT, send Line #, anything else is wasted space, she's just glancing at your profile looking for words she understands, and when you send her a message it should be short and sweet as well, ST / LT (your hotel here) Line #, and that's all, it tells her what she needs to know, how long you want her for, your hotel tells her what its going to cost her to get to you, and finally that you use Line, cause ThaiFriendly gets you in the door but Line seals the deal, as soon as she sends you her Line number that is when you text her your specific details such like CIM etc. Be specific, tell her exactly what you want and expect her to do, and always expect her to be at least 10-20 min late cause unless she is down the street she's going to try to get a friend to drop her off before she spends her own money on a taxi.
Some say Thailand doesn't have a tipping culture, your right. But not when it comes to the service industry, ploy and bee do expect a tip if they see that you enjoyed their company, and you fucking know it. I've never had any issues with starfishes (knock on wood) but I think to myself if I ever do I'll take the high road and pay her for the agreed time and kindly send her on her way and go on to the next experience.
Easy mode as follows.
Profile:
Photo's of you having fun in Pattaya.
State your in Pattaya.
Party time, excellent! Boom boom, ST / LT.
Send Line #.
Messages to her:
ST / LT, hotel, send Line #.
Line messages to her:
Be specific so she knows what you want and what she won't do.
Do all this and you'll a golden god of ThaiFriendly.
Line: they love this app, the use it for everything, phone calls, video calls.
Facebook messenger: they use this app in junction with Instagram.
Instagram: you know those selfies they been taking with you, yep. They are on her Instagram.
Whats App: just like line, very international.
The LT girls will INDEED take pictures of you. And post them to the socials, your their prize as well and they love to show off the whale they caught.
YouTubers worth watching:
LE Pub: LE pub is a beer bar across from the infamous Windmill, it's run by the legendary Mr. Egg, he's awesome and gives alot of information about the comings and goings happening in Pattaya.
Rides 4 kicks: his name Is Lucas his content is like being on a tour of Pattaya and how to actually live in Pattaya.
3-4 questions that every gogo girl asks you to figure out if your worth her time and effort and also for her safety as well, its sorta a ranking system.
1. where you from? = are you rich, what's your culture towards women and sex workers.
2. where you stay? = are you a cheap Charlie, are skimping on your hotel to save money and how far are you from the gogo and her condo.
3. how long you stay in Thailand or how long you on holiday = are you Long Time material, if she puts the effort in does she have time to get you to buy her gold or a that new Iphone 15.
Things to bring to Thailand:
Lube, Astroglide, for the love of God I hope your not thinking about raw dawging, this helps out alot, the Lube they sell in Pattaya sucks, latex friction is not nice on their kitties, the girls are always amazed when see how well it works, it might even end up in their purse. 555.
Condoms: I'm not fucking kidding, bring boxes, lots of them, the Asian market Condoms are smaller in width (very tight fit) and break easily, they suck.
Terminology. Bin: it's a wooden cup for your bill, alway pay your bill as soon as you receive it, doing so will make sure no mistakes happen or if you forget how many drinks you ordered.
Update: I'm definitely going to be in Pattaya March to May and plan on doing comprehensive reviews of everything with pictures and videos.
Malls for Shopping: Central Festival Mall: excellent mall for all name brand things, they have everything, they even have an excellent supermarket called Tops, this place also has some really great restaurants, bowling alley and the best movie theater in all of Pattaya.
Terminal 21: another great mall, has everything, has a section for Japanese collectable.
Food Panda: a online website for food delivery.
Bolt: its a taxi service app, you pay ahead of time with your credit card or baht, the price is determinded and firm before ride starts, cheaper and safer than motorbike taxis.
Restaurants: Horizon, Hilton Pattaya https://horizon.bar/food-menu/ Outstanding views and cocktails Edge, Hilton Pattaya, It's the best all you can eat Buffet in Pattaya, does a 7 day 7 theme, so everyday it has a different cuisine, has breakfast, lunch and dinner, and Sunday brunch as well.
All I needed to read was this about gogo bars and know I didn't need to read any more.Good move dude, its hard to believe.
The first time I hit Pattaya, there was no manual.
Procrastinating Kills.
Was going to stay at I rover Hotel this weekend. $14 a night. I had 3 days to book. Log in today and it's SOLD Out. OMG. High season is here.Same Same happened with my favorite hotel last week (no I did not get evicted from my room). I can afford to rent both a fuck room and maintain a resistance without resorting to eating Khao Man Gui or at a Indian Food Buffet everyday.
But walked around the corner and got a room in a place I never been too that looked good for 150 THB less. I do not think it is high season. Thai Friendly girls are responding quickly. Previous Fucks are hitting me up for appointments. Even my favorites in GCs (Gentleman's Clubs) are hitting me up asking me to come in or offering to come by after work.
I am not sure if it is just high season or an abundance of girls. But you know how I roll, maybe there is just an abundance of girls of my type.
Lots of SUB type girls. They are Everywhere.Now you know I don't bother to hang out in Bangkok. I have everything I need in Pattaya. Besides the Clown Car Crew out of Bangkok (CCCB) gots issues with this Farang dam. But I don't give a fuck. I just keep posting. Fuck em! Fuck em all! - John Wick style!
Holla!
ThaiGoodTimes
09-26-24, 09:21
Exactly where in Rawai do you find such chicks bro. If this is the case I will definitely come to Rawai on my next Thailand trip. On my last week long trip to Bangkok and fucking every single night, I only got one chick to let me BBFS + creampie.Read about Rawai in the Phuket forum, it has all the details you need on where to find them.
Also, have a look at my posts on Patpong gogo's in the Bangkok forum, I have had 3 SYT's BB / creampie from the gogo's there over visits in recent months, and have even posted girls photos.
UglyAzzMan
09-27-24, 02:22
So I downed 40 drink before I hit Soi 6.
Didn't work the Girls still Ugly.
On a brighter not One Eye Jacks was Booming. In my 20 minutes I saw 5 paying customer s. Usually not more than 3.
SoberHans69
09-27-24, 11:28
Just arrived back in Pattaya for my first trip in a few years as the past few were underwhelming.
Got caught straight away in heavy rain, forgot how much it rains here.
If anyone wants to hang out, happy to buy you a drink.
Brother Turgid unfortunately folks been saying that same rhetoric for decades now. Remember back in 2008 when the economy collapsed when banks where really going under left and right that the end was here. Yet here we are. We now just got to navigate thru the "Weird WTF Is This", when it comes to the banks, economy etc like we did when covid turn everbodys life upside down. We'll be fine. Just got to hold on to your cool.When other countries (especially third world countries) go into billion dollar debts their economy is in crisis mode and they seek some sort of relief. The debt of the United States is $35 trillion. The US can survive with this because the US dollar is the world reserve currency. More and more countries (especially BRICS) are turning away from the US dollar. The shit's got to hit the fan some time. My guess is 2025.
EverythingThai
09-28-24, 06:56
So life happened and I had to cancel my trip to Germany and instead returned home to Pattaya and while I rarely go these days decided to go walking street 808 and saw a number of black travelers and it kinda shock be as I can remember when going there just say six years ago you have a few African Americans and some Africans mixed now there are several of them most of the younger than 40. My guess is these are former DR Colombia travelers that previously wouldn't go because of the long flight but that no longer deters them.What's your real point here? I don't quite understand it. If you were commenting about there being a lot of black women in Pattaya, I could see the relevance of your post. Why? Because we are hear talking about women. But to comment on the number of black men in Pattaya leads me to believe there is some other motivation. Let me clear this up for you right now as I have been going to Pattaya for many years and live there part time. Are you ready?
Guys have always came to Pattaya. Duh! Thailand is free and open. Because of that, men of all race and color come. You just didn't notice because as you said, you don't normally go to walking street. Maybe if you actually crawled out of your little cubby hole apt and travelled, you would see this. With no due respect, this post does not belong in this thread. It's unproductive and contributes absolutely nothing to the Pattaya threads.
I love Pattaya because you can meet people from all over the world. If one does not like the idea of seeing multiple cultures and people with a different skin color than them, then I only have one thing to say, GTFO and don't let the 131 baht bus door on the way to Bangkok hit you on the way out.
EverythingThai
09-28-24, 07:03
So I downed 40 drink before I hit Soi 6.
Didn't work the Girls still Ugly.
On a brighter not One Eye Jacks was Booming. In my 20 minutes I saw 5 paying customer s. Usually not more than 3.Oh my little protege. You got it all wrong. You buy 40 drinks, you don't drink 40 drinks. Besides, the ugly girls in soi 6 are perfect for UglyAzzMan. They are a prefect match for you. It's your name, don't blame 40 drinks on why you can't get laid in soi 6 LOL.
Sorry I couldn't resist. Or maybe you did buy 40 drinks. Was this the result of you? It's a picture of an ugly soi 6 girl getting 40 drinks. Well not quite 40. I guess you were a little short LOL.
TravelingMan3
09-28-24, 11:38
A couple of thing using I rover cheap rooms being booked as an indicator that it's high season is silly. I also saw a post where a guy was struggling to get BBFS if that's what you want then head over to soi 6 it would be hard not to get it there.
Dear Friends,
How to identify that the girl is laotian. What features are different from Thai girls.
Will try to score one.
Regards,
Viv.
Just arrived back in Pattaya for my first trip in a few years as the past few were underwhelming.
Got caught straight away in heavy rain, forgot how much it rains here.
If anyone wants to hang out, happy to buy you a drink.Several times I stuck in Pattaya on heavy rain. Roads wll be flodded and no girls around. TF is my right choice those times. Pick a girl, sleep with her and enjoy few beers.
EverythingThai
09-28-24, 12:04
Dear Friends,
How to identify that the girl is laotian. What features are different from Thai girls.
Will try to score one.
Regards,
Viv.The average western guy won't be able to tell the difference as they all speak Thai and look Thai. Why? Because Isaan girls and Loa girls generally all look the same when it comes to shape, language and attitudes. Further, they will lie to you and say they are Thai. Why? Because most work illegally.
However, if you are in Pattaya, not Bangkok, you will be able to tell because of their complexion. In Pattaya, the majority of the working girls have darker skin. However, Lao girls generally have lighter skin, much whiter. Yes, a few are dark, but most are white or light skinned.
Where to find them? There are some tricks. Search we chat people nearby. Their country is listed in the profile. Secondly, if you see a girl with white skin working in the bar, get to know her a bit. Then say " I don't think you are Thai" They may confess to you, but in secret. Then search Facebook for Pattaya girls and you will see some pop up with a location set to Pattaya but other info shows from Lao. Then look in restaurants and salons and markets as most of the girls there are Lao and they accept jobs at a lower salary. Search Thai Friendly and tinder in loa, as most come to Thailand often. You meet them while they are back home, but they will come to Thailand very soon in most cases. Finally, Isaan girls who live full time in Pattaya or Bangkok avoid speaking Isaan unless it is with a family member or friend from back home. Loa girls will not do the same. They will speak Isaan or Lao language all the time. If you get to know the difference, that is another way to know they are Loa girls and not thai girls. Laos girls often work as freelancers so they won't be as many openly admitting to it and working in a formal bar that gets lots of exposure. They will work in small gents clubs, go to find clients in the clubs and on walking street and are often ok posting info in their tinder or TF profile about being Lao.
EverythingThai
09-28-24, 14:47
As my travel date to land of the smiles nears, random questions have been popping into my mind. The latest is about lady drinks. I've got a few questions surrounding this topic. I know nothing is a given, but as a general rule, when you purchase a lady drink is there legit alcohol in it or is it just BS? These women truly enjoy drinking with you getting a little loose maybe a party atmosphere or they just pouring some soda or colored water into a glass for them? LOL also, is there a difference at the gentlemen clubs versus the gogo bars, I've always viewed the idea of purchasing lady drinks as an opportunity to gauge how the girl might be in your room with you. If she's flirty and playful and just seemingly having a fun open personality, then the lady drink would seem like it's totally worth it to spend a few just to feel her out. What are the chances you can get into some heavy petting in the bar going both directions if you purchased a few lady drinks? Is this common? I've read that it happens on this forum, but I wonder how common it is for her to get a little feel in and you get feel her up a little well before you take her out. And last question surrounding this topic, assuming you get a date like maybe off a tie friendly what are the chances that some of these girls are down for like having drinks getting loose, more of a party type atmosphere rather than just wham Bam and leaving? As always, any information or advice is greatly appreciated. I need to make the most out of this trip.I think I can dub myself as the unofficial lady drink expert here. There is actually a fake profile called 40 drinks named after me and some others like to joke about it. All joking aside, here is the scoop.
If you are on a strict budget, stay away from places with a lady drink business model. Especially if you are a newbie. Why? Because the first hot bar girl you come across will milk you dry and before you know it, you will have 1000 baht a day left to spend and you don't want that. Next, stick to Thai friendly girls as they don't need drinks LOL. If you must go to a go go bar, go in with a set budget to spend on lady drinks and don't go over that.
Now the plus side of lady drinks. Here is one example. In Maggie Mays, if you buy a lady a rack of tequila shots for 795 baht, you get a rack of 6 tequila but only pay for 5 shots. The girls are on a strict rule where they have to get naked if you buy them a rack. During that time, you can pretty much do what you want to her. I have seen guys getting a BJ right at the bar or eating her pussy right out in the open. Now my latest story, I bought 4 racks of tequila for 4 separate ladies in Maggie Mays. They just closed the curtain and gang raped me. I had all 4 girls licking and sucking me and each other. I even fucked and finally blew my load right down the throat of a first day girl on the job and first day working in a bar. It was like she was being trained by the other girls and I was her victim LOL. Other times the girls will give you more mileage in the bedroom if they know you are generous. Last time I bought "40 drinks" LOL, the girl didn't even charge me for sex. She was one of my top ten girls ever in Thailand. BBFS CIP and she is really a 10/10 in looks.
In summary, if you are on a budget, stay away. If you aren't, then go ahead and go nuts and see where things go. Is there a middle ground? Yes. However, lines get blurred when alcohol flows. In soi 6 you will get a little side action for a few drinks. Grinding and shit. But in some gents clubs, it's no holds barred. The middle ground would be groping her, the girl grinding you for a few lady drinks and then you decide to bar fine her ST or LT or you change girls or leave. As for the drinks being watered down. Most bars water down the lady drinks down to 50/50 water and alcohol. The girl may also ask to have a non alcoholic drink or maybe wont even ask you. She will just get it. The lady drink is for the girls time and she can technically choose what kind of drink she wants, whether alcohol or not, the price will be the same. If its an alcoholic drink she chooses, the bar will predesignate what can be used. Its normally a cheap tequila or sangsom.
Hope this helps.
Here is my 40 drinks girl.
Mr Enternational
09-28-24, 15:31
while I rarely go these days decided to go walking street 808 and saw a number of black travelers and it kinda shock be as I can remember when going there just say six years ago you have a few African Americans and some Africans mixed now there are several of them most of the younger than 40. My guess is these are former DR Colombia travelers that previously wouldn't go because of the long flight but that no longer deters them.I think your guess is wrong. 808 was opened well over 6 years ago by the owner of Lucifer as a hip-hop club with predominantly Black guys as patrons. Flexx is the same and has been open even longer. The owner of that disco is African. Maybe you forgot about Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan when all the guys would take their R&R in Pattaya. Maybe you forgot about Cobra Gold that has been going on every March since the 70's.
The first time I even heard about Pattaya was from a Black American guy when I was staying at the Nana Hotel in Bangkok. He was outside with his bags, on vacation from working in Iraq and I spoke to him. He said he was just waiting for the bus to go to Pattaya. I said what is that? He said it is better and it is cheaper. I have not looked back since. I have plenty of Black friends that go all over the world, not just DR, Colombia, and Thailand.
Explorer8939
09-28-24, 18:44
Dear Friends,
How to identify that the girl is laotian. What features are different from Thai girls.
Will try to score one.
Regards,
Viv.Laos used to be part of Thailand until the French stole it.
Isaan used to be part of Laos before that.
So, there is very little difference between Isaan and Lao people. It's kind of like asking the difference between people from Northern Ireland and Ireland. Oops.
PinkieSucker
09-28-24, 20:13
Read about Rawai in the Phuket forum, it has all the details you need on where to find them.
Also, have a look at my posts on Patpong gogo's in the Bangkok forum, I have had 3 SYT's BB / creampie from the gogo's there over visits in recent months, and have even posted girls photos.Thanks,
I did go through a lot of post about Rawai, including yours and did find names of few clubs / bars to get girls from but nothing that specifically mentioned BBFS / Creampie. Also thanks for the list of gogos in patpong. Even my BBFS+creampie was with a girl I got LT from a very famous gogo on Soi Cowboy. She was pretty young and looked new to sex work, at least to me. It happened on my first night there, which was one of the best nights of my life but sadly no other night there came close to it. Also it only happened in the heat of the moment as I didn't have the time to go looking for no condom sex really, it wasn't agreed upon before hand, just that she didn't ask for it / pull one out, whereas every other girl did and I just didn't ask as I am a bit shy and didn't have the time to look for someone else anyways. I know if I had kept hitting gogo's I probably would've gotten at least a couple more, but with my work and time constraints it was mostly MP's and a couple of freelancers for me. I should've at least got her number LOL. Anyways I probably won't be going to Bangkok the next time I visit Thailand and might be able to come to Rawai for a couple of nights when in Phuket so just wanted to know, where would be my best bet to find such a girl like Club Zhu or any bar in particular.
I think your guess is wrong. 808 was opened well over 6 years ago by the owner of Lucifer as a hip-hop club with predominantly Black guys as patrons. Flexx is the same and has been open even longer. The owner of that disco is African. Maybe you forgot about Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan when all the guys would take their R&R in Pattaya. Maybe you forgot about Cobra Gold that has been going on every March since the 70's.
The first time I even heard about Pattaya was from a Black American guy when I was staying at the Nana Hotel in Bangkok. He was outside with his bags, on vacation from working in Iraq and I spoke to him. He said he was just waiting for the bus to go to Pattaya. I said what is that? He said it is better and it is cheaper. I have not looked back since. I have plenty of Black friends that go all over the world, not just DR, Colombia, and Thailand.This is correct. Flexx and 808 have been around for about 10+ years and have always had black patrons, both African and African American. As you stated, troops from previous wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Kuwait, plus US Navy port visits in Pattaya, US marines exercises with Thai military, and US military bases in East Asia have exposed many blacks to Thailand (30% of the US Army is black), you also have US contractors from the Middle East who take R&R in Pattaya.
First time I ever heard about pattaya was on YouTube 10+ years ago and I was in the military stationed in Japan at the time, so me and my friend took a trip to Pattaya and it changed our life.
Feelz Good
09-29-24, 22:16
QUESTION? Is it me and my luck of the draw, or is it the norm for Ladies I have encountered in Pattaya that don't shave their kitty's. Being from the West it seems to be the norm.
Mr Enternational
09-29-24, 22:28
QUESTION? Is it me and my luck of the draw, or is it the norm for Ladies I have encountered in Pattaya that don't shave their kitty's. Being from the West it seems to be the norm.I only see this with chicks who are not hookers or chicks that are fresh off the farm.
It only became the norm to shave in the West because of the porno movies from the 80's. I think something was going around and all the porno people had to shave for health reasons, so that ended up being a fad, just like everything else people want to do because they saw it in a porno.
Explorer8939
09-29-24, 23:15
QUESTION? Is it me and my luck of the draw, or is it the norm for Ladies I have encountered in Pattaya that don't shave their kitty's. Being from the West it seems to be the norm.What kinds of places are you going to?
Certainly not GCs or anyplace where ladies get naked in the bar.
ThaiGoodTimes
09-30-24, 03:33
Thanks,
I did go through a lot of post about Rawai, including yours and did find names of few clubs / bars to get girls from but nothing that specifically mentioned BBFS / Creampie. Also thanks for the list of gogos in patpong. Even my BBFS+creampie was with a girl I got LT from a very famous gogo on Soi Cowboy. She was pretty young and looked new to sex work, at least to me. It happened on my first night there, which was one of the best nights of my life but sadly no other night there came close to it. Also it only happened in the heat of the moment as I didn't have the time to go looking for no condom sex really, it wasn't agreed upon before hand, just that she didn't ask for it / pull one out, whereas every other girl did and I just didn't ask as I am a bit shy and didn't have the time to look for someone else anyways. I know if I had kept hitting gogo's I probably would've gotten at least a couple more, but with my work and time constraints it was mostly MP's and a couple of freelancers for me. I should've at least got her number LOL. Anyways I probably won't be going to Bangkok the next time I visit Thailand and might be able to come to Rawai for a couple of nights when in Phuket so just wanted to know, where would be my best bet to find such a girl like Club Zhu or any bar in particular.You really need to move these questions to the Phuket thread, as I doubt the Pattaya crowd are not in the least bit interested in talking about Phuket or even Bangkok.
That said, the answer to your question is in your comments above, it's not so much about the place, it's about the girl, newbie girls should be your target in Bangkok and Phuket for BBFS / CIP.
So, you have to head to where newbies are, gogo's often are it, high turnover bars (Soi 6 in Pattaya), or in Phuket / Rawai large sized bars with many newbies arriving.
Nightclubs are a way less likely pickup place unless you spend a lot of money on getting the ladies drunk and their inhibitions removed.
Tho a warning on that, the sex can be shit, and even they pass out or throw up on you (deliberately), and be prepared to face recriminations, even financial extortion in the morning.
I've found it far better all round to do the deed, and then politely to throw out drunk nightclub girls that night, treating it as long short time and move on.
Yes, I've had all that over my years of journeying through this grand game.
Feelz Good
09-30-24, 08:46
You are correct! Mostly TF, Beer bars, Beach road talent, so maybe you hit the nail on the head. In the past I haven't supported the GoGo's and GC's much. Makes sense. I have to change my ways.
What kinds of places are you going to?
Certainly not GCs or anyplace where ladies get naked in the bar.
Where should I begin??
The Women:
I stayed a total of 52 days and fucked 110 women. I sourced all of them from Thai Friendly or had TF girls bring me other girls. The majority provided BBFS and all provided BBBJ standard (been taking doxycycline 100 MG per day which is available for 100 baht for 10 pills in the pharmacies).
Many of the girls told me they came from Isaan (an area of northern Thailand), some from Bangkok, some from Chiang Mai and some from Rayong, interestingly none said they were actually from Pattaya. Many said they worked the bars on soi buakhao and one named Crazy Kate said she used to work Soi 6. I even had one who claimed she worked in an agogo place called Pin Up on walking street, not sure if she actually did work there or if she was just telling me that to try to charge me more because she did try to ask for more money.
Most accepted 1200 baht for BBFS some outliers wanted 2000 baht (including the so-called pin up girl) and one outlier in the other direction named Tip gave me BBFS for only 800 baht. Some would take 1000 baht but then I noticed the ones that agreed to 1000 were usually fat or older like in their 30's. The best ones on TF in their low to mid 20's generally wanted 1200 baht condoms pretty much optional if the customer wants but sometimes the girl would mention "have condom" or "wear condom" I considered that a red flag and would just block them and move onto the next one until I get ones that don't mention condoms and usually if they don't mention condoms in the chat then they don't mention them in the room either, so that was my technique I was using. I tried to avoid saying "no condom" up front if they didn't mention condom because then that would result in them asking for more money for "no condom".
I've included some screenshots of the women who gave me exceptional BBFS sex. I feel a duty to contribute to the forum since you guys have helped me out along the way. Note: YMMV and just because they gave me BBFS I don't know if they would give you BBFS. It may depend on factors such as appearance and hygiene or even ethnicity so YMMV.
The Accommodation:
I stayed at an AirBnb on Soi 4. The named of the building was Pattaya Tower and for about $18 a day I had an entire furnished studio apartment on the 7th floor with a balcony, complete kitchenette, Cold AC, Hot Water Shower, Maid service every other day to clean my place, and a swimming pool and gym down on the first floor. There was also this really cool British dude there that would always stop and say what's up every time I saw him.
Food:
There are so many food options in Pattaya that it would be impossible to cover them all here. If you are into western food they have Mcdonalds and taco bell and they are both way better than in the states. The KFC here has these really good wings called zapp wings and these little amazing things called egg tarts, even if you hate KFC you have to try these egg tarts they are amazing and better than anything in the American KFC. There are also many street food options, as I mentioned previously, the Runway food court at 6 pm has good fried chicken and Papaya salad and all kinds of weird shit like grilled crocodile and frog leg kebabs among more normal things like beef pork and fish / seafood offerings. There is also a China town called SoHo Chinatown street food and they have some excellent fried pork belly there. They also have some good Indian food restaurants I had something called Chicken Chettinad and Butter Naan Bread from some place called Madras Darbar Indian Restaurant. It was pretty good.
Shopping:
I went to several different malls while I was there, mainly to watch some movies at the SF Cinemas. I was Alien Romulus, The Crow, and Beetlejuice Beetlejuice while I was there. The closest mall to my place was Called Central Marina, also Terminal 21 mall was a few minutes away on the baht bus, to the south were Central Pattaya mall and Royal Gardens Mall. I think Terminal 21 was the biggest and best shopping mall out of those four.
Weather:
The weather was a little warmer than what I am used to in Colombia and in the states or even Mexico for that matter. Quite humid too especially in the afternoons, so I stayed in doors most of the time. Only during the evenings was the weather a little but cooler but even then it still felt like it was in the 80's /30's. I did notice that recently it had felt slightly cooler especially after a rain storm so maybe the weather is starting to change.
Atmosphere
I kinda get the vibe that everyone here is on vacation and no one actually lives in Pattaya. I see a lot of Indian guys, not native American Indians but actual Indians like from India, I also see a lot of Korean and Japanese looking people and some Chinese and some Arabs too. There was a Chinese restaurant I went to on 2nd road and they greeted me by saying Nee How instead of Sawa Dee and their whole menu was all written in mandarin, luckily I have an app on my phone that can take pictures and decipher the symbols. Anyways it appears everyone in Pattaya is just on perpetual holiday. It's like a mecca of foreigner holiday-goers. Interesting to say the least.
New Adventures
I was getting rather bored there in Pattaya so I decided to take an adventure. I took the bus back to Bangkok and made my way to the Don Muang train station and I bought a one way ticket to Udon Thani on the overnight train for 202 baht and I took the 10 hour train ride here to Udon Thani. The train was old a rickety and made a lot of noise and burning smells when it stopped and bugs would come in through the window and get on me but it was an experience I will never forget and I got some pretty cool videos of the scenery at sunrise.
Repots on Udon Thani to come soon.
Gabacho.
Laos used to be part of Thailand until the French stole it.
Isaan used to be part of Laos before that.
So, there is very little difference between Isaan and Lao people. It's kind of like asking the difference between people from Northern Ireland and Ireland. Oops.I'm in Isaan right now in Udon Thani I came here on the 133 train. So far I've gotten bbfscip from 2 women I found on TF. One was 1500 baht and one was 2000 baht so therfore it is slightly more than in Pattaya but I wouldn't say significantly more. Plus my sample size is only 2 I'll have to fuck some more women and report on my findings. Also street food and airbnb are cheaper here in Udon. And Indriver was only 56 baht from the train station to my airbnb so that tells you something right there.
There's alot more bullshit relationship girls on TF here though and it's a hassle to weed them out from the good ones. Also it's raining vedy heavily here especially in the afternoons.
-Gabacho Out.
BeachDrone
09-30-24, 15:37
QUESTION? Is it me and my luck of the draw, or is it the norm for Ladies I have encountered in Pattaya that don't shave their kitty's. Being from the West it seems to be the norm.I prefer the Bush, and also prefer older, more mature ladies. Don't need pussy looking like a 12-year-old.
SouthEaster
09-30-24, 16:52
Thanks for the completely useless comment. Fortunately your preferences are not most others preferences, so you will be spoiled for choice! Let us know how grandma rolls.
ElMexicant
09-30-24, 18:49
Where should I begin?? Thanks for sharing with the extensive report, pics and profiles. Nice break from all the other nonsense chatter. You sir are 100% brave to have let the world see your eye as the beholder. Next time you are down in Patts, there is a well known 20 year old Soi 6 baht girl with a "Mickey Mouse" tattoo on her back, perky tits, and a flat tummy that is readily available for PSE action that you should discover. Fair rate of 1500 + extra 300 if you want to make a homemade personal vid in the upstairs room. She also offered BBFS for flat 2000 with vid, but I am too clean for that shit. Cleanliness is next to you know what. That was my pricing. YMMV, because I go to the gym like 7 days a week. Got to stay fit to keep up with those 20 year old competition. Anyways, hopefully you get a chance to join the Mickey Mouse club.
Friend isn't BBFS risky in pattaya where HIV affected people are more. The same girl you are having BBFS may have same with lot of other guies.
So I think though BBFS gives thrills but not safe and shall be avoided.
Viv.You might want to raise your voice on safe sex in this dedicated thread. Best place so, individual forums stay for what they are meant to.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/forumdisplay.php?268-Safe-Sex
Explorer8939
10-01-24, 21:08
You are correct! Mostly TF, Beer bars, Beach road talent, so maybe you hit the nail on the head. In the past I haven't supported the GoGo's and GC's much. Makes sense. I have to change my ways.Often hairy Bush = lady doesn't tell her Thai boyfriend that she fucks Farangs. A Beach Road lady may have a day job, and hit Beach Road for one trick before she goes home, doesn't tell her boyfriend.
Same with TF, lady takes a customer when her tilac is at work. Or bargirl tells her boyfriend she's "drinks only".
Often hairy Bush = lady doesn't tell her Thai boyfriend that she fucks Farangs. A Beach Road lady may have a day job, and hit Beach Road for one trick before she goes home, doesn't tell her boyfriend.
Same with TF, lady takes a customer when her tilac is at work. Or bargirl tells her boyfriend she's "drinks only".In my experience most girls I saw from TF had hair but not all. The girl who said she worked at pin up was clean shaven as were several others and some had light hair not a full on Bush. However the majority were hairy.
Where should I begin??
I stayed a total of 52 days and fucked 110 women. Wow, you should be in the Guinness Book of Records. Even Larry Holmes, Long Dong Silver and Ron Jeremy couldn't do that together during this time.
'However, there is no other topic about which men lie to each other more than when it comes to sex. Everyone has the longest, everyone can do the longest, everyone has at least 5 girls a day, etc.
LOL.
Wow, you should be in the Guinness Book of Records. Even Larry Holmes, Long Dong Silver and Ron Jeremy couldn't do that together during this time.
'However, there is no other topic about which men lie to each other more than when it comes to sex. Everyone has the longest, everyone can do the longest, everyone has at least 5 girls a day, etc.
LOL.I was averaging between 2 and 3 girls on most days some days were only 1 though. At the beginning of the trip in August I was doing 3 a day constantly for a while. Then it slowed down to 2 a day usually one in morning and one in the evening. I don't have any reason to lie, but whether or not you chose to believe me or think lying that's up to you. You okay? Lmao.
Mr Enternational
10-02-24, 17:53
Wow, you should be in the Guinness Book of Records. Even Larry Holmes, Long Dong Silver and Ron Jeremy couldn't do that together during this time.I think you mean John Holmes. Larry Holmes was a boxer.
ThaiGoodTimes
10-02-24, 18:13
Wow, you should be in the Guinness Book of Records. Even Larry Holmes, Long Dong Silver and Ron Jeremy couldn't do that together during this time.
'However, there is no other topic about which men lie to each other more than when it comes to sex. Everyone has the longest, everyone can do the longest, everyone has at least 5 girls a day, etc.
LOL.Why put shit on him Ronald McD?
You're more so the clown with your commentary.
I have a friend who has been living in Jomtein for a few months now and also actively trawls through and takes TF girls.
He would be averaging probably around 2. 5 girls a day easily.
And shit, even the esteemed Explorer would be averaging well over 2 per day if he stayed in Pattaya as long as Gaspaucho.
Instead of dragging him down, congratulate him on keeping his price average down to around 1500 baht, not as low as the CMDR, but worthy of applause.
And what's more, he spent only 165 K baht getting all that bareback and creampie pussy.
Definitely again a bang for the buck rate worthy of applause.
Jose Flores
10-02-24, 21:20
I am a bargain / basement hunter visiting SEA in 2 months. I always try to find the cheapest way to do it wherever I am. I've been to some real shitholes.
It seems in SEA I am most likely to need my own hotel that is guest friendly? I plan to stay months at a time depending on which location I like best. But usually 1+ month per city.
How much should I expect to pay per day or for a month (I've often been able to negotiate better rates for week+ stays)? I am thinking cheapest will be $25-30 USD per day for a guest friendly hotel + $40 - $50 for 1-2 HR for freelancers? Is there any way I can do it cheaper?
I would rather pay less than have amenities, but want my own room and prefer my own bathroom + wifi. I have stayed in some pretty bad places (not super clean and in bad areas in LaTam). But enjoy being close to the action (walking distance).
I do like the setup of just finding a street worker and there already being a location like in Greece or LaTaM but I have done escorts, etc. Just seems to be more expensive per day even if the value per minute is better. I am okay with 10-20 minute sessions if they area vailable.
I do enjoy long (30+ minute, or a lot longer) pure BBJ service a bit, so would be great to find that and the prices I should expect to pay.
Open to any recommendations in terms of cities / countries.
GettingTang
10-02-24, 23:22
In my experience most girls I saw from TF had hair but not all. The girl who said she worked at pin up was clean shaven as were several others and some had light hair not a full on Bush. However the majority were hairy.Include in your travel bag about four or five top quality women's personal shavers. The ones that have four or five blades. When she comes to your room, take her hand go over to the shower and hand her one of these with some conditioning soap and have her put on a show for you. It can be great foreplay, watching a woman shave her pussy. I prefer shaved and will ask them to shave. LOL.
Why put shit on him Ronald McD?
You're more so the clown with your commentary.
I have a friend who has been living in Jomtein for a few months now and also actively trawls through and takes TF girls.
He would be averaging probably around 2. 5 girls a day easily.
And shit, even the esteemed Explorer would be averaging well over 2 per day if he stayed in Pattaya as long as Gaspaucho.
Instead of dragging him down, congratulate him on keeping his price average down to around 1500 baht not as low as the CMDR, but worthy of applause.
And what's more, he spent only 165 K baht getting all that bareback and creampie pussy.
Definitely again a bang for the buck rate worthy of applause.Thanks for the comments bro. Although I think I get it cheaper in my native playgrounds of Santa Fe in Bogota Colombia and Botero Plaza in Medellin Colombia.
Down there I can bareback venezolanas all day everyday for the equivalent of 785 baht a pop. That being said I wanted to come out here to explore Thailand Philippines and Jakarta, Indonesia. I've always had a thing for Asian women and I've finally gotten to experience them.
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10-03-24, 04:59
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Intrepid123
10-03-24, 08:37
So I downed 40 drink before I hit Soi 6.
Didn't work the Girls still Ugly.
On a brighter not One Eye Jacks was Booming. In my 20 minutes I saw 5 paying customer s. Usually not more than 3.I walk Soi 6 regularly and on ANY given day when all bars are open I could easily point out 100 HOT girls.
However, I do understand your situation because I have a friend that is afflicted by the same strange taste.
I invited him to Pattaya, and I remember going with him to dozens of bars and gogos trying to find just one girl that he would find attractive.
At the end of a hopeless night, almost closure time, he finally finds in a Walking Street gogo the one girl he finally likes. And to me, she had a horse face, a flat ass and a terrible misaligned boob job.
I couldn't believe it, but that's what he wanted. The fuck was pretty bad BTW, I could sniff it out as soon as she sat with him but I didn't want to put him off.
I walk Soi 6 regularly and on ANY given day when all bars are open I could easily point out 100 HOT girls.If you like them short, fat, with a monkey face and over 35, your statement is true.
Otherwise, it's hard to believe for anyone taking a look at that soi regularly.
Or maybe you're a newcomer, and not used to the Thai women's body so you find them all hot.
Banana Boi
10-03-24, 13:09
At the end of a hopeless night, almost closure time, he finally finds in a Walking Street gogo the one girl he finally likes. And to me, she had a horse face, a flat ass and a terrible misaligned boob job.Lucky for the girls we all have different taste. When I was younger I used to think anyone who didn't like the same girls as me had bad taste. Now I've matured and no longer think that. I used to give Syzygies a heart attack with all my girls with a nose job. He only wanted the natural Thai look.
Why put shit on him Ronald McD?
I have a friend who has been living in Jomtein for a few months now and also actively trawls through and takes TF girls.
He would be averaging probably around 2. 5 girls a day easily.Of course he says that to you. But the question is how much of it is boasting and how much of it is reality. And how much of that do you believe?
I stand by this: There is no topic where men lie to each other more than when it comes to sex.
I think you mean John Holmes. Larry Holmes was a boxer.Yes, you are right. Sorry, John big dig of cause.
I was averaging between 2 and 3 girls on most days some days were only 1 though. At the beginning of the trip in August I was doing 3 a day constantly for a while. Then it slowed down to 2 a day usually one in morning and one in the evening. I don't have any reason to lie, but whether or not you chose to believe me or think lying that's up to you. You okay? Lmao.Wow. Why aren't you in the Guinness book?
Next time someone writes about fucking 6 girls every day, each for at least 4 hours of course.
4 x 6 are 24 hours. Of course he doesn't sleep for 3 weeks until he flies back home.
And when he gets back home he writes that he fucked 7 girls every day, each for 5 hours. LOL.
Include in your travel bag about four or five top quality women's personal shavers. The ones that have four or five blades. When she comes to your room, take her hand go over to the shower and hand her one of these with some conditioning soap and have her put on a show for you. It can be great foreplay, watching a woman shave her pussy. I prefer shaved and will ask them to shave. LOL.I read that shaving or trimming a few days before mongering increases STD risk due to microtears. The risk must be especially worse if you or your lady trim hair right before the deed?
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