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Old And Ugly
07-02-25, 14:21
You guys really need to disabuse yourselves of the idea of "free" pussy. There's none. Women will always cost you *something*. Money, time, effort, attention, headaches.
For every stunner you see, there's some guy who is absolutely sick and tired of dealing with her and her bullshit and bored of fucking her, too.
A few bucks for 30 mins-1 HR and I'm guaranteed never to have to deal with ANY of her shit afterwards? That's a fucking bargain in my book. And if / when you want more, you pay for more. No more, no less.That's what I'm saying, I can't get it for free anymore, so I'm willing to pay for it, I find it righteous.
Mr Enternational
07-02-25, 14:31
You guys really need to disabuse yourselves of the idea of "free" pussy. There's none. Women will always cost you *something*. Money, time, effort, attention, headaches.That is being disingenuous. By that token since you have to buy a car, pay for gas and insurance, and buy clothes to wear to work then why even get a job? Life costs money, time, effort, attention, and headaches. So why even live?
I for one enjoy the companionship of a normal woman and do not just need them to stick my dick into. And if you know how to manage them properly, then you do not have to spend all the money, time, effort, attention, and get the headaches.
I for one enjoy the companionship of a normal woman and do not just need them to stick my dick into. Two week millionaires don't believe it but, for guys living in Asia, a platonic dinner with a normal girl who can hold a conversation can be a welcome reprieve from constantly having pussy thrown at you.
That's what I'm saying, I can't get it for free anymore, so I'm willing to pay for it, I find it righteous.Guys get criticised for paying $100 for a few hours entertainment. Yet loosing life savings, the house, kids and / or 30 years of 12 hour work days is perfectly acceptable.
G.
Two week millionaires don't believe it but, for guys living in Asia, a platonic dinner with a normal girl who can hold a conversation can be a welcome reprieve from constantly having pussy thrown at you.In my experience in Thailand that normal girl with whom you had a platonic dinner can end up throwing her pussy at you. I'm not too sure about holding a conversation though.
In my experience in Thailand that normal girl with whom you had a platonic dinner can end up throwing her pussy at you. I'm not too sure about holding a conversation though.I don't have a lot of good girl experience in Thailand. Elsewhere, it was a perfectly normal to be told point blank that she's happy to go out but it's just dinner and she would mean it. However, you are correct: after the second or third date, all bets were off.
G.
Old And Ugly
07-03-25, 01:10
To my surprise, it's like living in a simulation, I can't sleep, I opened the laptop to write about last night, and to my surprise the topic of the report it's being discussed. WTF. I just banged a civilian.
Last night I went to Myth area to check the Candy Club that somebody suggested.
Candy had lots of good looking babes, but they were all sitting with a dude, and it looked to me that is BYO, I may be wrong.
I roamed thru the Myth bars, from a thousand girls, I found only 2 to my liking, one didn't want to BF, and the other one asked 4 K plus the addons, I wished her good luck and I left.
On my way back to Candy to check out if the situation has changed, I ran into this middle aged chick, that I saw few times already walking around, kind out of place, and exchanged looks with her already, because her clothes didn't fit the surroundings. She was carrying a bottle of beer sipping out of it, because I almost bumped into her I apologized, and started to chitchat, perfect english, with heavy accent. I invited her for another beer at one of the pool bars that wasn't so noisy.
She was chinese, working as a tour guide for a korean travel agency, and was in Pattaya for the first time, this being her 4th day, and was just exploring around. Her normal route was BKK, she can speak fluent english, korean, thai and of course chinese. Better looking than all around us, but too old for me, 42 or 45, she gave me both ages in 2 different occasions, short hair above shoulders, and extremely well kept face. She proposed to walk away from there to someplace quiet. We ended up by the beach in front of Central eating corn together from a cup, talking bullshit and touching eachother. In my mind was a conflict going on: she was good looking but too old, but believed or not I didn't had a woman over 30 since 2012 when I divorced my first wife (second one was 22 and I exchanged her for newer models when she got 30), so out of curiosity, and as an experiment I started playing along, because she was the one hitting on me.
We ended up in my hotel room, having sex, condom only, but we stopped so many times for her to go to the bathroom and wash, and changed condoms, and too much talking about her 2 kids 22 and 24 studying at the university in Vietnam, and about her parents, that my dick died, and she couldn't revive it. Her blowjob skills were exquisite, but every time she put a condom on my dick it died, so she did more BJ but after a while she said that her mouth hurts and cannot continue, the truth being that she had the tiniest mouth to face ratio I ever seen.
The night ended in disappointment for me, and for her because she got to the conclusion that's something wrong with her body this being why she can't make me stay erect, which was actually true, but wasn't the looks. She had tiny tits, but I'm not crazy about huge ones, but her body was better looking than a 20 yo with a curvature belly to butt, so the body was not the problem but the condom, the constant nagging and the bathroom breaks. It ended up with her in front of the mirror applying lotion from her bag to her whole body for about half hour and more talking. She asked me to go with her to the beach today to some place south of Pattaya, but I politely declined invoking something that I have to do. And that was my first and last freebie for this year, an interesting experience that reminded me why the heck I'm in SEA banging 20 yo and not hags in the neighborhood bars in US. Also good that she forgot or avoided exchanging phone numbers, I would had given her my thai nr that's going to be switched of in a few days anyway.
Explorer8939
07-03-25, 01:16
I read a report about the low season, and about all the hookers giving it away for almost nothing before heading home to the province. Maybe the report was referring to the ones I don't like and they are cheap, or maybe I came to early. Also when I was here earlier this year, I was with the GF for a 1 week stop on the way to Cambodia, we did some sampling together, but by far not as much as I wanted to. So far I didn't pay any of the crazy prices that I was quoted for in house dining. It seems that I'm doing ok with the TF ones in the 1500 to 2000 range, I got it figured out: the idea is to catch them as soon as they go online, otherwise is an endless conversation that may not lead nowhere because probably they are juggling around the options, forming a que based on monetary gains, and backups.Thai bargirl logic: during Low Season when there are fewer customers, charge more to make up the difference.
BackpackBrian
07-03-25, 03:40
I don't like having to take the girls all the way back to my hotel near Central Festival.
Are there any gentlemen's clubs (GC's) on Walking Street?
Are there any clubs on Walking Street with on site action?
Her blowjob skills were exquisite I'm often visiting Chinese hookers in my country (Netherlands), even though 95% of them are (well) over 35 yo, and their blowjob skills are indeed amazing.
so the body was not the problem but the condom Did you tell her that the condom was the problem?
I'm often visiting Chinese hookers in my country (Netherlands), even though 95% of them are (well) over 35 yo, and their blowjob skills are indeed amazing.China remains one of the few places where hookers actually go to school to learn techniques and how to please. Calling it school may be an exaggeration but they are definitely taught skills and methods. Hence the Red Rope massages, Fire and Ice BJs etc.
Contrast these with the local girls who rely on past boyfriends, word of mouth from other girls and watching porn.
Enjoy. G.
WTF. I just banged a civilian.
In my mind was a conflict going on: she was good looking but too old, but believed or not I didn't had a woman over 30 since 2012 when I divorced my first wife (second one was 22 and I exchanged her for newer models when she got 30), so out of curiosity, and as an experiment I started playing along, because she was the one hitting on me.
Well not so great outcome (for you), but you still had some nice time.
On a friendly note, you may consider modifying your user name to 'Old and Not Ugly', because she was hitting on you. Just Joking.
Your reports are well written, genuine (But as some wise members suggested in the past; 'Take it with a grain of salt') and subtle humour incorporated in them. Thanks for sharing this field report on freebie experience. Cheers.
UglyAzzMan
07-03-25, 08:22
Thai bargirl logic: during Low Season when there are fewer customers, charge more to make up the difference.I've never Experienced this. Prices remain Static no Matter what season.
My Hotels don't raise prices in low season either. Hahaha. Hahaha.
UglyAzzMan
07-03-25, 08:23
I don't like having to take the girls all the way back to my hotel near Central Festival.
Are there any gentlemen's clubs (GC's) on Walking Street?
Are there any clubs on Walking Street with on site action?There are short time rooms on Walking Street.
UglyAzzMan
07-03-25, 08:27
I read a report about the low season, and about all the hookers giving it away for almost nothing before heading home to the province. Maybe the report was referring to the ones I don't like and they are cheap, or maybe I came to early. Also when I was here earlier this year, I was with the GF for a 1 week stop on the way to Cambodia, we did some sampling together, but by far not as much as I wanted to. So far I didn't pay any of the crazy prices that I was quoted for in house dining. It seems that I'm doing ok with the TF ones in the 1500 to 2000 range, I got it figured out: the idea is to catch them as soon as they go online, otherwise is an endless conversation that may not lead nowhere because probably they are juggling around the options, forming a que based on monetary gains, and backups.Who's advice are you taking seriously. Giving it away Free before going home tend Buffalo. Hahaha.
You don't pick up Girls at Candy Club. Hahaha.
Old And Ugly
07-03-25, 11:54
I don't like having to take the girls all the way back to my hotel near Central Festival.
Are there any gentlemen's clubs (GC's) on Walking Street?
Are there any clubs on Walking Street with on site action?Soy 6 is closer to your hotel, and they all have rooms in the back, actually is harder and pricier to take them to your hotel. I don't know if WS has the same logistics, but being from Vegas I know how a tourist trap looks like, and I stay away from it.
Old And Ugly
07-03-25, 11:56
Thai bargirl logic: during Low Season when there are fewer customers, charge more to make up the difference.You hit the nail in the head!
Old And Ugly
07-03-25, 12:35
Around 8 in the morning I got this one, 1500 with condom, tight pussy, good BJ but a lot chubbier than the pic from her profile. I don't know if they are on a rapid fattening diet, or there is an app that makes you slimmer without being obvious, but the pic was hers.
I did a daytime walk on Soy 6 to see the merchandise on display in broad daylight, and to tell you the truth most of the girls are unfuckable from my perspective, just like in the PH, as soon as they come across some dough, their first priority is to eat like little piglets. They are all fucking fat with a few stunners mixed in-between.
On TF I'm flooded with requests to meet from 35+ ladies, some good looking, and some hags, but after last night's experience with a geriatric, I avoid them like the plague, the older they get, the more rotten their brains become, better to get them in their early 20's while they still have blanks to fill upstairs.
Right now I have a mental debate, if for the early evening session should I order delivery from TF or go sample the goods hands on before purchasing. The view from afar is fogging my brain, and they are luring me into the depth, like the sirens, and I know it that once I'm close by the perception will change.
Around 8 in the morning I got this one, 1500 with condom, tight pussy, good BJ but a lot chubbier than the pic from her profile. I don't know if they are on a rapid fattening diet, or there is an app that makes you slimmer without being obvious, but the pic was hers.
I did a daytime walk on Soy 6 to see the merchandise on display in broad daylight, and to tell you the truth most of the girls are unfuckable from my perspective, just like in the PH, as soon as they come across some dough, their first priority is to eat like little piglets. They are all fucking fat with a few stunners mixed in-between.
On TF I'm flooded with requests to meet from 35+ ladies, some good looking, and some hags, but after last night's experience with a geriatric, I avoid them like the plague, the older they get, the more rotten their brains become, better to get them in their early 20's while they still have blanks to fill upstairs.
Right now I have a mental debate, if for the early evening session should I order delivery from TF or go sample the goods hands on before purchasing. The view from afar is fogging my brain, and they are luring me into the depth, like the sirens, and I know it that once I'm close by the perception will change.The average Thai woman is short and "curvy". The taller and slimer they are the higher the odds of then not actually being a woman. We used to joke when I worked in China that Chinese girls were always hungry. Thai girls are the same. They eat a lot. LOL.
MongerHunger
07-03-25, 17:12
after last night's experience with a geriatric, I avoid them like the plague Geriatric is usually considered 65 yrs and older. You said she was in her 40's.
Old And Ugly
07-03-25, 19:47
Geriatric is usually considered 65 yrs and older. You said she was in her 40's.Joking. Everything over 30 should be considered geriatric, when mongering.
But tonight I did it again, I fucked a 35 yo lady selling produce from Isan. I passed her cart, and I had to fend an incoming car on a narrow street, I don't know the Soy nr. And bam! When I saw her body that was hiding behind the cart, tall toned, nice butt, nice boobs, my brain froze, I continued walking, then I turned around and walked back to her, waited until a customer finished buying some green leafy stuff, and with the risk of being slapped or yelled at, I made my move, first a compliment, then some chitchat as much as her english permitted then I asked her directly if she wants to go with me to my hotel, she was giggling then said yes. Left the cart with the lady selling dry fish next to her, and she told me that she needs to be back by 4 am when they go back to wherever they stay overnight. Was only around 9 pm, so that was no problem. We didn't talked money yet, but in the jeepney / bus on the way to the hotel she asked how much I'm going to give her, and I was going to say 2 K, but she continued saying 1 K, I said yes of course. She's a 35 yo farmer from Isan, no kids, no husband, (looked 25 to me) comes to Pattaya to sell produce, and stays 1-4 days until she sells everything then goes back, and returns next week, or after a week, I didn't get it exactly.
When unwrapped she had an amazing toned and tanned body, and when she let her hair down it was like a dream come true. She fucked me like there is no tomorrow for hours, moaning and saying something in thai. She liked to kiss a lot and was sticking her tongue in my mouth, which is ok. , but it feels weird because that's my job. I think this one was the best one so far despite her being a geriatric. I didn't ask, but I suspect she wasn't properly fucked in a long time. No condom mentioned.
I gave her 2 k for the amazing performance. She just left not long ago, around 1 am, and I'm thinking to go get a masseuse and bring her in my room for a relaxing naked massage (she needs to be naked also) no sex, then go to sleep, I'm also hungry, but I shouldn't eat this late. While in TH I constantly have this fear of the masseuse being a LB if she looks too good. On TF I have 16 unread messages, but I didn't opened them.
Mr Enternational
07-03-25, 19:57
I've never Experienced this. Prices remain Static no Matter what season.
My Hotels don't raise prices in low season either.Finally agree with this guy on something. I think many people are having false memory if they say the prices are different from season to season. The only difference is the amount of tourists in town. The prices stay the same.
Old And Ugly
07-03-25, 19:59
The average Thai woman is short and "curvy". The taller and slimer they are the higher the odds of then not actually being a woman. We used to joke when I worked in China that Chinese girls were always hungry. Thai girls are the same. They eat a lot. LOL.Filipinas are the same, their favorite is Jolly Bee, spaghetti with ketchup. About the height: lately allover SEA girls are getting taller, it must be something in the food, also their feet are getting bigger, making it impossible to use it as a warning sign, my GF in PH is tall and her shoes are one size bigger than mine (but narrow), also my first wife which was taller than me had bigger feet than mine, I wear 41 W. When I grew up smaller feet were a normal feature for the ladies.
Mr Enternational
07-03-25, 20:14
Well since the talk is about Chinese, I asked my girlfriend why these chicks always wear pajamas outside then have to go back in getting in the bed with clothes they wore outside. She said it is a poor Chinese thing. Poor people can not afford pajamas, so it is kind of a status symbol to go outside showing people they have pajamas.
Old And Ugly
07-03-25, 22:30
Well since the talk is about Chinese, I asked my girlfriend why these chicks always wear pajamas outside then have to go back in getting in the bed with clothes they wore outside. She said it is a poor Chinese thing. Poor people can not afford pajamas, so it is kind of a status symbol to go outside showing people they have pajamas.In US I think is because the girls are too lazy to change when they go short shopping at Walmart after midnight.
When I stepped out of the hotel there was a short girl exiting the hotel across the street, and she was walking in the same direction, so being the only 2 souls on the street, I asked her where she was going, and she said to the pharmacy next door, but the place was closed, I suggested 7-11 around the corner, while walking I asked what she was doing in the hotel, if she's a tourist or she's visiting someone, but she told me that's not a hotel, is apartments and she lives there, next she asked about me, and I said that I'm looking for a masseuse, and jokingly I asked if she knows how to give massages, and if she's willing to give me one, the answer was yes, how much you pay? That answer triggered the next question: for 1000, are you going to give me a naked one, she said sure, but no boom boom. Ok anyway I was tired.
After 7-11 where she bought something for face washing with vitamin see and baby oil, she grabbed my hand and we came to my room, tiny little thing, with well proportioned but small body, and full of tattoos, also a geriatric like the one before her, around 30 but for massage was ok. She spoke well english, told me that she has an american boyfriend for 7 years now, and he's 82 yo.
She gave an unexpectedly good strong massage, and after she played with my dick for a while, she asked me to lick her pussy, weird request out of nowhere, but I obliged, she came twice, then got dressed got paid and she left. Weird. No pics. And now is 4.30 am.
UglyAzzMan
07-04-25, 03:43
1,000 for Vegetable Lady sounds legit. Hahaha 🤣. Haha.
Can you guys show Faces. Price begins with Facial.
P.S. Is short and Curvy aka Fat?
Is tall and curvy akaFat?
UglyAzzMan
07-04-25, 03:45
Oppas Bar. Wow. What a Head turner. Looked Mixed. Not for Indian s I presume. Hahaha.
Might have to get a 75 baht drink there. Yes she was Hot.
Old And Ugly
07-04-25, 05:26
Today out of curiosity I walked across the street to the hotel that's actually apartments with a receptionist, and the sign says "serviced apartments", and I asked details.
They rent by the month, and the smallest one is 35 K / month and is only one room and bathroom, no kitchen, probably it was a hotel before.
I think that's kind of expensive, especially for 1 room, not on the beach, the hotel where I'm staying is cheaper, has big rooms, and probably if rented by the month is most likely to cost even less that the 800/ day that I'm paying now for a deluxe room. The girl from early morning was not lying about the 82 yo boyfriend, because in no way can she afford that. Maybe he's paying her rent, or they live together there. I still don't understand the 1 K massage at 3 am.
1,000 for Vegetable Lady sounds legit. Hahaha 🤣. Haha.
Can you guys show Faces. Price begins with Facial.
P.S. Is short and Curvy aka Fat?
Is tall and curvy akaFat?Your definition may vary. Short and curvy to me means they have an ass and tits. They also may have a love handle or two, but their waist will be much narrower than their boobs and ass. I would not call them fat. There are lots of fat girls in Thailand and their waist will stick out as far as their tits. To be honest my definition of fats varies with how long I have been in Thailand. If I just arrived from the USA they will all look slim, LOL. The longer I am in Thailand the more my definition of fat changes.
Finally agree with this guy on something. I think many people are having false memory if they say the prices are different from season to season. The only difference is the amount of tourists in town. The prices stay the same.I know low season has hit Pattaya when I see the price of 1-hour foot massage drop to 200 baht (outside Beach Road, where it will drop to 250).
Intrepid123
07-04-25, 08:38
Man you do not know that shit. You know how many women are single because guys assume shit and do not bother? The same as every guy on here likes different things in women, those chicks like different things in men. You can not assume that because a chick is known for x then she will not go for why. She might be sitting there the entire time hoping a guy like you would approach her. Hell you might end up fucking the chick for free while everybody else pays 5000 baht. Don't count yourself out before you even get in the game.That can be true, but there are also a few girls in the soi that are super spoiled by Koreans who buy them 50 shots before taking them out on LT and paying who knows how much (plus shopping and fine dining). Those won't be going for a 1 drink + 2 k ST because they know Koreans are lining up for the "privilege" to s̶I̶m̶p̶ be with them.
Old And Ugly
07-04-25, 08:52
Your definition may vary. Short and curvy to me means they have an ass and tits. They also may have a love handle or two, but their waist will be much narrower than their boobs and ass. I would not call them fat. There are lots of fat girls in Thailand and their waist will stick out as far as their tits. To be honest my definition of fats varies with how long I have been in Thailand. If I just arrived from the USA they will all look slim, LOL. The longer I am in Thailand the more my definition of fat changes.I like only skinny, bordering on athletic, and tall if possible, therefore I'm ok with small size tits, because that's the norm on this type of body, if the tit size is bigger I like it of course, but that's not a must. Everything that exceeds that is chubby or fat to me, and I don't want it unless I'm somehow forced by the circumstances like it was yesterday morning when the girl from TF showed up, was pretty, the one from the pics, but chubbier. What was I supposed to do, lose all that time I invested into the rendezvous? And I didn't had a clear picture until we were naked, kissing and aroused.
Today my first session was at 1 pm, with a shy student from TF, I chose her for her unappealing profile pic, where you can kind of guess that something is hiding underneath the wrapper. I was right: great body, angelic face but no tits, mine are bigger.
I think was her first job, she came with a hat, mask and fake glasses on, and she was kind of shacking, and had a tremor in her voice. After we started fucking she came back to normal. Condom, 1500.
I don't know if I can squeeze another session before leaving for the airport later on.
UglyAzzMan
07-04-25, 09:42
That can be true, but there are also a few girls in the soi that are super spoiled by Koreans who buy them 50 shots before taking them out on LT and paying who knows how much (plus shopping and fine dining). Those won't be going for a 1 drink + 2 k ST because they know Koreans are lining up for the "privilege" to s̶I̶m̶p̶ be with them.These Mythical Korean Men.
MeThinks most are like us. Price Matters.
Mr Enternational
07-04-25, 15:25
Today out of curiosity I walked across the street to the hotel that's actually apartments with a receptionist, and the sign says "serviced apartments", and I asked details.
They rent by the month, and the smallest one is 35 K / month and is only one room and bathroom, no kitchen, probably it was a hotel before.
I think that's kind of expensive,That is ridiculously expensive. I have never heard of one costing that much. There are tons of places like that though. If you see "apartment" then that is what it is. I live in one. You can pay 500/ day or by the week. You can also pay monthly. Or like me you can have a long term contract. Mine is a 1 year contract so I pay 4500/ month. I made my own kitchen during covid since I had a taste for stuff like grilled cheese and steak and most places were closed. The difference in "apartment" and "condo" is that condo has at least a stove and sink for cooking.
Mr Enternational
07-04-25, 15:34
That can be true, but there are also a few girls in the soi that are super spoiled by Koreans who buy them 50 shots before taking them out on LT and paying who knows how much (plus shopping and fine dining)..LOL. These Korean tales keep growing and growing. Next there will be a talk of Korean guys buying Mercedes for chicks. The 50 shots you can see. But if a guy leaves with a chick, how would you know whether it is short time or long time? How would you know if he is taking her shopping or out to eat? And you definitely do not know how much he agreed to pay.
Mosquito2002
07-05-25, 00:56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cos_tfojfZM
Just posting, as this topic comes up every so often.
Makes sense to me!
UglyAzzMan
07-05-25, 01:22
Can she be fixed.
Playpen aka remember Baitoey.
Newbie Looks fresh off the farm. Easily top 3% in looks. What makes this one unusual is she has top 3%body too. Proportionate be Cupps.
Just for research I started out with how old are you? Never seen such a sour face. Didn't even get an answer. Fail fail.
As I was leaving a Shaggy type got off his bike and took her for a Drink. Not long later I was at another bar and I see Shaggy drive by. I'm thin8 king he got the cold shoulder too.
This Girl could make so much money. She just needs guidance. She has the goods. Looks wise. Needs to mature. In pleasing customers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cos_tfojfZM
Just posting, as this topic comes up every so often.
Makes sense to me!Thanks for that link.
With regard to prostitution in Thailsnd, "What consenting adults do behind closed doors is their own business" and not illegal or a crime.
That American-born then naturalized Thai citizen attorney nailed it and so did the Bangkok Post article that triggered his commentary on the topic.
Really, every reference and term he stated on the act of prostitution between consenting adults vs all the several tangential behaviors and "open and shameful" publicly observable flaunting of negotiations, peddling it without couching it behind the concept of "massage" or simply "meet ladies here" in licensed businesses, entertainment venues and so on are pretty much right there in the Thai Penal Code that has been linked and discussed here on this website many times.
Bottom Line: the act of prostitution between or among consenting adults is not illegal or a crime in Thailand.
Explorer8939
07-05-25, 03:03
These Mythical Korean Men.
MeThinks most are like us. Price Matters.They are not mythical, and they will ultimately destroy Soi 6, before moving on to other areas. Same as Angeles City.
Many ladies won't leave the bar, fearing they may miss a Korean whale.
Today out of curiosity I walked across the street to the hotel that's actually apartments with a receptionist, and the sign says "serviced apartments", and I asked details.
They rent by the month, and the smallest one is 35 K / month and is only one room and bathroom, no kitchen, probably it was a hotel before.
I think that's kind of expensive, especially for 1 room, not on the beach, the hotel where I'm staying is cheaper, has big rooms, and probably if rented by the month is most likely to cost even less that the 800/ day that I'm paying now for a deluxe room. The girl from early morning was not lying about the 82 yo boyfriend, because in no way can she afford that. Maybe he's paying her rent, or they live together there. I still don't understand the 1 K massage at 3 am.
That is ridiculously expensive. I have never heard of one costing that much. There are tons of places like that though. If you see "apartment" then that is what it is. I live in one. You can pay 500/ day or by the week. You can also pay monthly. Or like me you can have a long term contract. Mine is a 1 year contract so I pay 4500/ month. I made my own kitchen during covid since I had a taste for stuff like grilled cheese and steak and most places were closed. The difference in "apartment" and "condo" is that condo has at least a stove and sink for cooking.I think this is the place that Old And Ugly was talking about: https://www.soi2inn.com.
Looks to me it's just a hotel, but they have called it "serviced apartments" to make it sound more luxury.
The daily price is 1800 Baht (room only), which is OK I think for a hotel like this. But you cannot know that for sure until you've seen it, and the site doesn't mention if taxes and housekeeping are included.
For the monthly price you can get better in Pattaya, I think.
I assume that Mr. E's apartment is not a hotel-like "serviced apartment", with a swimming pool, free wifi, 24h security, a restaurant, etcetera.
Philip Marlow
07-05-25, 06:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cos_tfojfZM
Just posting, as this topic comes up every so often.
Makes sense to me!A Thai attorney says that prostitution in Thailand is not illegal? Well, he has to be wrong. The legal experts on this very forum says it is illegal, because they once saw a street walker get arrested, or because a police major said they rounded up prostitutes last night, or because he uses the same restroom as real attorneys, and therefore knows the law. The lawyer on the video should get disbarred for spreading false legal information.
Mosquito2002
07-05-25, 11:45
A Thai attorney says that prostitution in Thailand is not illegal? Well, he has to be wrong. The legal experts on this very forum says it is illegal, because they once saw a street walker get arrested, or because a police major said they rounded up prostitutes last night, or because he uses the same restroom as real attorneys, and therefore knows the law. The lawyer on the video should get disbarred for spreading false legal information.You might want to watch the video again, he explains the twist and turns. He doesn't out-right say prostitution is legal, he's basically saying it isn't prostitution when two adults agree to have sex outside of an organized business (yea, not exactly a clear picture. But it makes sense to me. As this is Thailand).
UglyAzzMan
07-05-25, 13:47
Tough Duty.
Area across KTV 66. Ugliest Bargirl ever. I mean really really Ugly.
Same bar Two Indian s offered 500 baht. One indian pay 500 or 250 each. They were Chased away. Hahaha.
Yes, that Thai attorney and the Bangkok Post sum it up quite well.
Thanks for that link.
With regard to prostitution in Thailsnd, "What consenting adults do behind closed doors is their own business" and not illegal or a crime.
That American-born then naturalized Thai citizen attorney nailed it and so did the Bangkok Post article that triggered his commentary on the topic.
Really, every reference and term he stated on the act of prostitution between consenting adults vs all the several tangential behaviors and "open and shameful" publicly observable flaunting of negotiations, peddling it without couching it behind the concept of "massage" or simply "meet ladies here" in licensed businesses, entertainment venues and so on are pretty much right there in the Thai Penal Code that has been linked and discussed here on this website many times.I saw in a repeat viewing of the video that the article he was referring to was in the Pattaya Mail and not the Bangkok Post.
I was thrown because that attorney usually riffs on articles he has read in the Bangkok Post and there was a reference to the Bangkok Post in the comments.
However, it figures that the Bangkok Post would not be the media outlet to accurately make it crystal clear and without a reasonable doubt that the basic act of exchanging sex for money, aka prostitution, between consenting adults is not illegal in Thailand and therefore not a crime in Thailand. That only certain "prostitution-related" factors are illegal. And the attorney does a very good job of listing several of them, most of which have also been mentioned on this site many times.
Instead, time and time again the Bangkok Post has shown itself to be one of those lazy journalistic entities on this subject that hears about a group of girls being rounded up on Beach Road, calls the police station, asks the first person that picks up the phone why those girls were being rounded up, the call is transferred to the Thailand Public Relations Manager or similar, who then says, "for prostitution", and that's as far as the Bangkok Post's journalistic curiosity goes, end of report.
Lone Punter
07-05-25, 16:00
Noble gents,
Excessive price development has been frequently discussed but the other day I got confronted with the next level rip-off: As the bars are mostly insanely loud, I wanted to go upstairs with a lady at Tomcat's but that was no longer possible for the usual 400 Tb. I was informed that I can only go upstairs after paying for three ladydrinks in addition to the kaa hong of 400 Tb. Totally outrageous. That never happened to me before, a friend of mine was asked to pay four lady drinks for that purpose in Roxy bar. They might squeeze out this money from some Korean but this policy is totally insane when the business is so slow already.
LP.
Mr Enternational
07-05-25, 17:38
I assume that Mr. E's apartment is not a hotel-like "serviced apartment", with a swimming pool, free wifi, 24h security, a restaurant, etcetera.If you rent by the day then the lady will come clean. If you are long term and you want her to clean then it costs like 300 baht. You also get a bed cover set if you pay by the day, but not if you are long term. No pool. There is a separate owned restaurant. We used to have nightly security but that went away some years ago. The reasons I moved into here and not another place I was considering was because of the free wifi and the elevator which the other place did not have. Back then the other place was charging 600/ month for wifi.
Mr Enternational
07-05-25, 17:58
However, it figures that the Bangkok Post would not be the media outlet to accurately make it crystal clear and without a reasonable doubt that the basic act of exchanging sex for money, aka prostitution, between consenting adults is not illegal in Thailand and therefore not a crime in Thailand. That only certain "prostitution-related" factors are illegal. And the attorney does a very good job of listing several of them, most of which have also been mentioned on this site many times.I will buy that. The reason being is that I had a dispute with a hooker a couple of years ago. We were in the bed naked getting ready to fuck and I was about to show her something on my phone. She thought I was taking pictures of her and blew up the deal. She still wanted to get paid and I told her no way.
Long story short we ended up going to the police station. I refused to give her money and she refused to drop the issue. It is fair to assume that if she was doing something illegal, she would not want the police to settle it. Also, if she was doing something illegal, the police would have locked her up for admitting to it. So the police said if we could not come to an agreement then we would have to go to court about it. I was leaving the country the next day so I had to go ahead and give her the 1000 baht for the issue to be dropped.
The policeman wanted me to hand her the 1000 baht while he took a picture. I said no fucking way; I have seen this movie too many times. I give you the 1000 baht and you give it to her! I left the police station and saw one of the prettiest chicks I have ever seen heading towards Beach Road. Pity that I had to pass her up because I had had enough of Thai hookers for one night.
Philip Marlow
07-05-25, 18:12
You might want to watch the video again, he explains the twist and turns. He doesn't out-right say prostitution is legal, he's basically saying it isn't prostitution when two adults agree to have sex outside of an organized business (yea, not exactly a clear picture. But it makes sense to me. As this is Thailand).
Quote- In Thailand, prostitution itself is not explicitly illegal, but related activities like soliciting, running brothels, and pimping are.
Quote- One of the main elements of prostitution itself, has this element of in a promiscuous manner, which I would say that's akin to the term of art in the common law vernacular of open and notorious.
That's clear to me. If something is not illegal, it is legal. If the elements are not met, it's not a crime.
UglyAzzMan
07-06-25, 01:06
Noble gents,
Excessive price development has been frequently discussed but the other day I got confronted with the next level rip-off: As the bars are mostly insanely loud, I wanted to go upstairs with a lady at Tomcat's but that was no longer possible for the usual 400 Tb. I was informed that I can only go upstairs after paying for three ladydrinks in addition to the kaa hong of 400 Tb. Totally outrageous. That never happened to me before, a friend of mine was asked to pay four lady drinks for that purpose in Roxy bar. They might squeeze out this money from some Korean but this policy is totally insane when the business is so slow already.
LP.Perhaps this is an example of raising prices when business is down. Color me Shocked. Hahaha.
Tomcats. If I recall is a Bar stocked with PMs. Portly mature.
17 at Bliss has to have best nose in Thailand. Looks Doctored but we'll done. All over sh is approaching 9 status. Yes that HOT. EZ 2 barfines a night at Nana Plaza. At Bliss I'm not so sure 9 pm there were just 4 customers. Maybe the Barfining happens after midnight when barfine drops.
Had these chicks during my recent visit to Pattaya. Above average experience, usual charges and co-operative.
-JizzyB.
Went to HA last night. Called over a cute, thin 20-something with full back and leg sleeves. They were actually well done and looked nice. Called herself Ohm. Seems a bit new, but willing to play the game. Got her a LD or two, and went upstairs. 2 K+350 for the room. Had a good time, recommend. On the way upstairs I saw there is a "speakeasy" but not sure how to get an invite. Maybe just for high-rollers?
Next night went to club fate just across the way. The selection wasn't great, but found a decent (6.5 ish) with a nice body. Only did one LD and she was down to sit and chat forever. Since she was so chill I rewarded her with the 3000 B double tequila shot, shirt comes off with the shot. She was quite happy with that. After some playing, she confessed that she could not do boom-boom because Aunt Flo was in town. I was skeptical, but she insisted she wanted to blow me and wants me to come back another day for boom-boom. Meh, whatever. She pulled the curtain and did an acceptable BJ. She was giggling as we watched a guy in the next booth getting his boom-boom on. Pushed her down to lick my nuts and finished on her face. She was quite happy with the whole process, and sat around cuddling with me for another half-hour before I took my leave. Now, catch this. When she handed me my ticket, the curtain fee + BJ fee was not on it. I'm not sure if this was intentional or an oversight. Either way, she was a good cat so I slipped 2 K baht into her bra as I left. I like the vibe of the gentleman's clubs better than the go-gos I think.
UglyAzzMan
07-06-25, 16:15
Perhaps this is an example of raising prices when business is down. Color me Shocked. Hahaha.
Tomcats. If I recall is a Bar stocked with PMs. Portly mature.
17 at Bliss has to have best nose in Thailand. Looks Doctored but we'll done. All over sh is approaching 9 status. Yes that HOT. EZ 2 barfines a night at Nana Plaza. At Bliss I'm not so sure 9 pm there were just 4 customers. Maybe the Barfining happens after midnight when barfine drops.Correction Tomcats. I mistook for another Bar with old portly Bargirls.
Went to King Club tonight, had a shitty experience. Starts out good, chatting with a girl. She asks for a drink, no problem. Says I can invite another girl if I want, ok no problem. I tell her to pick who she's comfortable with. She was ok, mid 30's and one of the better looking ones in the bar. Her friend was not. Whatever, it's all pink on the inside. Then she starts pushing the LD, getting LD without my say-so, and so on. I tell her enough, lets go upstairs. They respond with 1000 baht each, 400 for the room. Ok, no problem. Then we get to the room.
Once the shower was done, she starts going all in on the fake moaning / cumming. Girl is licking my nipples and sounding like she is riding a sybian. Fucking turn off. Then we start fucking. Her ugly friend is actually not that bad, and I enjoyed the friend for a bit. Then girl 1 spreads her legs, and as soon as I touch her the 'bad porn moaning' starts again, and she starts with the 'you come soon'. Fuck. I push her out of the way to fuck her ugly friend again, and no shit, mid-fuck she starts asking for more LD. While I'm fucking. That was the final straw for me. Completely turned off, told them I was done. Then she has the nuts to ask me 'why you no cum? LOL You can't make this shit up. I didn't even bother to get their names. There was not one girl in that bar worth going back for. On to other adventures.
Went to HA last night. Called over a cute, thin 20-something with full back and leg sleeves. They were actually well done and looked nice. Called herself Ohm. Seems a bit new, but willing to play the game. Got her a LD or two, and went upstairs. 2 K+350 for the room. Had a good time, recommend. On the way upstairs I saw there is a "speakeasy" but not sure how to get an invite. Maybe just for high-rollers?It's called Cleo's and you just walk in. Drinks are more expensive but they make a pretty good cocktail if you're looking for something more fancy. LD prices are a little more expensive and girl prices are also more expensive. I like the vibe but HA downstairs is a better value, IMO.
Old And Ugly
07-06-25, 22:11
I think this is the place that Old And Ugly was talking about: https://www.soi2inn.com.
Looks to me it's just a hotel, but they have called it "serviced apartments" to make it sound more luxury.
The daily price is 1800 Baht (room only), which is OK I think for a hotel like this. But you cannot know that for sure until you've seen it, and the site doesn't mention if taxes and housekeeping are included.
For the monthly price you can get better in Pattaya, I think.
........................................................Exactly, that's the one. I stayed across the street at S Lodge for half the price, and It's nicer, I don't get it why anyone will pay double for less. I didn't explored, but I'm sure that if you don't go the tourist route, and rent it by the month will be few hundred $ max. Maybe I'll give it a try after the rainy season, but Dongtan area looks more appealing to me, you can go in the water actually, in Pattaya I saw too much garbage in the water, and I don't go in public (hotel) swimming pools, only in my own, where is pee from family and friends only. The pics are from S Lodge.
I was informed that I can only go upstairs after paying for three ladydrinks in addition to the kaa hong of 400 Tb. Totally outrageous. That never happened to me before, a friend of mine was asked to pay four lady drinks for that purpose in Roxy bar.If you don't want to go through the LD bullshit, you might try places like Red Point, Chili, Candy, Lolipop, My friend you and all other independant bars.
Avoid all the bars that are part of a group, like NW, Goodfellas, Tomcats, Oppa, Benders, Cooters, Lala land and all these kind of bars.
Axel Heyst
07-07-25, 12:40
If you don't want to go through the LD bullshit, you might try places like Red Point, Chili, Candy, Lolipop, My friend you and all other independant bars.
Avoid all the bars that are part of a group, like NW, Goodfellas, Tomcats, Oppa, Benders, Cooters, Lala land and all these kind of bars.Good tip, Paolo. And now for the 64 million Baht question: how does the quality compare between the "independent" bars and the "corporate" (my word) bars?
MongerHunger
07-07-25, 13:01
Here is the current rate (143 Baht) and times for the bus from Jomtien Station to BKK Airport. Cash Only. If you come early there is a small bar next to the station and a market across the parking lot if you need to pick anything up.
MongerHunger
07-07-25, 13:09
If you don't want to go through the LD bullshit, you might try places like Red Point, Chili, Candy, Lolipop, My friend you and all other independant bars.
Avoid all the bars that are part of a group, like NW, Goodfellas, Tomcats, Oppa, Benders, Cooters, Lala land and all these kind of bars.I definitely prefer to avoid Lady Drinks and preferably Bar Fines. If anything, get a girl's number and meet her OTC.
Exoticspirit
07-07-25, 19:49
When I was in Pattaya last fall, I pulled girls from Soi 6 twice and thought those were my weakest sessions. * I returned to Pattaya last month with a friend who was on his first trip ever to Asia so naturally I had to show him Soi 6. * It was very busy with girls at night and we got grabbed many times as expected. * he got pulled into a bar and then soon after I saw a girl at Lush that looked interesting so I went in with her. * I asked her about rate and she quoted 1500 be which was the same rate my friend got with his girl over at the other bar. * This was kind of surprising to me since I didn't think quotes would go this low from the 2500 I usually got quoted last fall and settled at 2000 for both sessions then. * Maybe it's the low season rate. * So this time we didn't even bother with drinks and I paid the 500 room fine and up we went.
I should have had an interview before hand because once in the room, I couple of red flags appeared. * First the girl didn't want to shower together and when she showered, she didn't want me to look. * Then once on the bed she asked if I had a condom which I did. * Well, she almost immediately went ahead to put the condom on without any prior action to get me going first (second red flag). * She tried a half ass (or even less) BJ which she went just on the head for a few moments (third red flag) and then expected to start the boom boom even before I was fully hard. * She laid on the bed without even climbing on top which was unusual (the now forth red flag). I was kind of okay with this but when I asked her to put it in for me which women usually like anyway, she refused and asked me to do it while giggling. * This was the first time ever that I encountered this by any girl anywhere. * It was pretty dark in the room so I couldn't see well and as I tried to put it in, it was already losing interest.
So I asked her to hand job me and she started almost strangling my pecker. * Completely amateurish. * After I realized that things have gone so far south beyond recovery, I just cut it short right there and ended the session. * The showers afterwards was the same, ie. , separate and didn't want me to look when it was her turn.
My friend later on said his session was pretty crappy too. * So looks like I would have to conclude at least based on my experiences there, Soi 6 while it's fun to stroll through it and gawk at all the girls, it's a crappy place to session with girls in Pattaya especially when compared to other venues. * Our sessions at gents clubs and even soapy places like Honey 1 were way better than Soi 6. * In the future if I decide to pull any girl on Soi 6, I would definitely have to put the girl through a solid interview to try and flush out those potential red flags before commiting to a session. * Or just view Soi 6 much like Walking Street, ie. , a place to stroll through and session at the more solid types of venues.
Good tip, Paolo. And now for the 64 million Baht question: how does the quality compare between the "independent" bars and the "corporate" (my word) bars?The quality in the independant bars can certainly be as good (or better) as the other places. Through out the years I've met at least one girl in each of these bars (many in Red Point) or in bars like Poison, Showgirls or Fire. Some of these girls were part of the best girls I've ever met in the soi.
The big difference being that these bars are employing less girls than the bars part of a group. So naturally you'll have a harder time finding a girl to your specs than in the bars employing much more girls.
The advantage of these bars over "corporate" bars as you call them, is if you're lucky, you might find a girl working as a freelance in the bar. In my experience, these girls are the best, because they don't give a fuck about LDs, they want to go straight to the action, as they have absolutely no incentive to push the customer buying her numerous drinks.
So this time we didn't even bother with drinks and I paid the 500 room fine and up we went.That's one of the problems when people want to avoid paying a drink first.
You don't have much time to check the chemistry, or even try to figure out if the girl is not a dumb ass.
I've cancelled many potential fucks in these bars after one or a few drinks because the girl did or said something I didn't like, was too dumb or was just not fun at all.
Exoticspirit
07-08-25, 00:41
Last fall I went to Pattaya and visited Heaven Above twice since I sessioned with the same girl there. * Last month in June I returned to Pattaya with a friend who was on his first trip to Asia ever so when we made it to town, I obviously had to show him Heaven Above. * I reunited with my girl there from the fall while he pulled a girl too and really enjoyed the place. * I still like the vibe there along with the topless dancing that goes on through the night but it is a more costly 'gents club' compared to others when its room rates are 600 be, higher priced drinks and the girls ask for more for their personal services upstairs. My girl agreed to 2000 be after she originally wanted 3000 be when we were chatting on WhatsApp.
The next day we took the free gents club bar crawl that's offered by the chain of bars starting at Maggie May's. * It was suppose to be a tour of six different gents club but the crawl ended up with seven. More on this later. * At Maggie May's, all the girls stayed outside while all the dudes participating were inside. This was kind of dumb as it was completely different at the other gents clubs. * Anyway, we spent about an hour there just chatting among ourselves with our drinks plus the free shot we each got. * Then after the hour, we walked over across the street to the next club which was Buzzin Lounge owned by the YouTuber who does the Buzzing Pattaya channel. * At least here the girls tried to mingle with us even though me and my friend were not that impressed with the girls at either Maggie May's or Buzzin. * Anyway, we had to spend another hour at Buzzin with another drink bought but again at least we got another free shot.
After Buzzin, we hopped on board one of there pussy wagons (like their own baht bus) and went to Cat Flaps. * Now this gents club was impressive as the decor looked new and the lounge was spacious. * Best of all, there were quite a lot of girls here many whom we thought were quite attractive. * We ordered yet another drink although me and my buddy have been ordering 50 be juices all afternoon along with the free shot we got here too. * As a bonus, we also got some free lasagna. * The other dudes on the tour all claimed that Cat Flaps is usually the best one out of the bunch.
After our hour at Cat Flaps, the pussy wagon took us to the Maggie May's in Jomtien. * Much like with their location in town, we were not impressed with the girls at this Jomtien location so we just ensured another juice and free shot during our hour here. * The next club was Camel Toe which was a nice size venue and they had two girls climb on a table for a free show. * I was however, not impressed with any of the women here so had to endure another hour ordering yet another juice (but got another free shot).
The next one which is #6 was Free Willy's. * Here another two ladies gave a free show. * One of them was attractive enough but the rest of their roster much like at the other gents clubs did not do much for me. * So another hour, another juice and free shot which was my 6th one that afternoon. * The final bar was going to be at Club Fate back in town. * At this point, my buddy and I felt that we were getting overloaded on juices and the bar crawl was already passing what we thought was suppose to be the end point around 5 pm but it was already about 6:30 pm. * So we took advantage of the pussy wagon ride back into town to Club Fate but at the dropoff we told the host that we were not going into this 7th gents club. * Instead, we wanted to return to Cat Flaps for a session.
The host got kind of peeved at us not for skipping out on Club Fate but claimed that we didn't spend enough money this afternoon. * Like what the fuck?* We bought drinks at each gents club we visited even though they were only juices. We just didn't feel like drinking during the afternoon especially when we already got free shots. * he said we should have bought drinks for the ladies but we didn't find them very attractive except for the ones at Cat Flaps which we were returning back to. * So in our view, the tour was a win win for all because me and my buddy got to see what each gents club was like and the crawl did entice us to return to one of their clubs later that night to spend money. * So we thought this host was a real ******* for saying we didn't spend enough money when it was advertised that it was a free bar crawl. * To us, this crawl was to promote their businesses and we think it was successful since we returned to Cat Flaps.
Anyway we both sessioned at Cat Flaps at 1500 be plus 400 for rooms. * The only thing odd we found was for such a nice gents club, the upstairs rooms did not have ensuite bathrooms. * Instead we all had to take turns in a separate bathroom in the hallway for showers.
Another good thing we really liked about the gents club tour is meeting all the other dudes who participated. * We got some great intel about Pattaya from them and on the whole, it was a nice group to hang out with for the afternoon. Except for the a-hole host that is.
UglyAzzMan
07-08-25, 01:17
The bar crawl Host.
Does it's name rhyme with SEBBY.
Mr Enternational
07-08-25, 02:57
The host got kind of peeved at us not for skipping out on Club Fate but claimed that we didn't spend enough money this afternoon.It is touted as free with the assumption that you will spend enough on drinks in order for the host to get his kickbacks. You were not thinking he was spending money and time to show a bunch of strangers around due to boredom did you?
And now for the 64 million Baht question: how does the quality compare between the "independent" bars and the "corporate" (my word) bars?Here is an example of the quality of the girls working in the independent bars.
The girl in blue is in Red point, the other one is in Poison.
Anyone on the ground could find these girls at the moment, these are screenshots from the Korean's stream from yesterday.
Personally I could do both of them if there is a good chemistry.
Exoticspirit
07-08-25, 21:57
To continue introducing my friend who is a first time visitor to Asia, I took him around to some of the big soapy massage places in Pattaya just to expose him to the fishbowl scene and not really expect to session at any of them. * When I took a peek into them on my last trip in the fall, I walked only in Honey 1 and PP and thought both places had women who were just too chunky for my liking. * I also read in posts that when it comes to soapy and nuru massages, Bangkok would be a much better place for these but nevertheless, we had some time to kill so this trip after our Soi 6 disaster sessions (wrote on separate post), we walked up to check out Sabai Dee and Honey 2. * We were pleasantly surprised on the talent available there but of course we also saw the premium prices. * After these two places, we made our way back towards the Base area where we were staying and checked out PP and Honey 1. * PP had zero potential despite the lower prices but Honey 1 surprisingly wasn't too bad so we decided that it was a potential return visit the next night for our first soapies there.
So the next night we returned to Honey 1 and were presented four different price ranges of the girls each with different colour tags. * The lowest red colour was at 2300 be and they were the girls mostly sitting in the front row. * These were also bigger, chunkier girls too we had no interest in plus for some reason, they looked disinterested too in us. * The next level was at 2700 be, either blue or black (I forgot) and there were actually a few of them that looked pretty good and were smiling as well as waving to us. * We both chose girls at the 2700 be level (the girls in the higher price ranges I kind of ignored because I didn't want to go at that level if there were acceptable ones at 2700).
I haven't had a soapy since my first visit to Bangkok like 20 years ago so I was due for one. * And my girl didn't disappoint as I loved my session which was a surprise to me due to reports of soapies being lack lustre in Pattaya. The 2700 price was all inclusive although at the beginning right after we paid our fee to the cashier and before our girls took us to the elevator, some pushy waitresses wanted us to buy drinks for ourselves and our girls which I refused. * Anyway we both thought that our sessions despite lasting about an hour each even though the papasan claimed that we were to get an hour and a half, were pretty good especially compared to the sessions we had the other types of venues in town.
For our final night as it was raining, we didn't want to venture too far from The Base where we were staying (which I totally recommend by the way) and decided to session again at Honey 1. * We both picked different girls at the 2700 be level again and my second girl there who was waving and actually pointing right at me with a huge smile from the fishbowl (no glass) gave an equally good session and her soapy technique was slightly different which was interesting and refreshing since they were not all using the same session game plan. * I thought the soapy part of the sessions were good foreplay before the actual sex and these girls certainly brought up service levels.
I think for guys who are interested in getting soapies, it is important to notice which girls in the fishbowl are trying to get your attention with smiles and waves rather than just picking out any hotties who seem disinterested. * Service levels are likely to be better with those who actually want you to pick them. * For any future visits to Pattaya, I probably would take in another soapy but maybe try out Sabai Dee or Honey 2 since they seemed to have more selection of the slimmer types of girls we like.
Exoticspirit
07-08-25, 22:00
The bar crawl Host.
Does it's name rhyme with SEBBY.No I don't think so. I do recall that he was not one of the gents clubs owners but helps out with them. Uses swear words a lot and probably Aussie.
UglyAzzMan
07-09-25, 01:57
Here is an example of the quality of the girls working in the independent bars.
The girl in blue is in Red point, the other one is in Poison.
Anyone on the ground could find these girls at the moment, these are screenshots from the Korean's stream from yesterday.
Personally I could do both of them if there is a good chemistry.Mod s Bar.
A Korea Streamer had a top 3 face on his stream the other day. Usually bad vibes from her but she looked Happy as the guy was buying Lots of drinks.
For the life of me I couldn't find his Stream on you tube. The Girl is Super Hot. Kinda Flat though. Hahaha.
Explorer8939
07-09-25, 02:49
Fire in Catflaps yesterday. Probably closed for a month.
Axel Heyst
07-09-25, 12:16
Here is an example of the quality of the girls working in the independent bars. The girl in blue is in Red point, the other one is in Poison.
Anyone on the ground could find these girls at the moment, these are screenshots from the Korean's stream from yesterday.
Personally I could do both of them if there is a good chemistry.Thanks Paola. I will definitely check out some of these independent Soi 6 bars and their girls next time I am in Pat. I totally agree with you about chemistry. Without it a shag will be mediocre at best. With it a 5. 5 * girl can give you a 7 * time and a 7* girl can give a 9* time.
Good hunting,
A. H.
The Tall Man
07-09-25, 20:10
OK so I have traveled many places in the world for decades but never to Thailand, about 10 years ago got only as close as the Philippines.
Now for the past almost 15 years living in Colombia and have played in every city and pueblo in Colombia both non-pro, freelancers and pros, I don't discriminate LOL, and I love Latin women especially Colombian chicas.
But out of curiosity I have read through a few pages on this forum and see the photos, the prices, the various venues and have drawn some conclusions namely:
1. The going rate is roughly 3000 BHT (Which is roughly $90 USD and here in Medellin I typically pay 130,000 Colombian pesos for a beautiful fresh and young gal with great attitude and girl friends sex to boot, now 130,000 pesos is about $35. USD.
2. The heat in Thailand is a turn off, I have partied in the Phillipines, the DR, Havana Cuba and all through Mexico and frankly the heat / humidity is no fun, unlike the weather we have in Medellin as it is always Spring here.
3. I just checked the airfare from Medellin Colombia to Thailand and you have to travel through the USA so the times to fly is about 2 days plus, no good then THE COST is ridiculous as I see the cost for RT as about $2,800 USD! Crazy. (I am curios as to what you are paying for a RT flight from a US city?
4. I have read and watched on YouTube that in Pattaya especially it is being overrun by Indians, is this true?
So all in all I just answered my own curiosity and questions, it is a no go for me to travel to Thailand.
I can fly RT from Medellin to the DR or Havana Cuba for about $335 USD and the flight is a few hours and not a few days.
Be safe all!
TTM.
UglyAzzMan
07-10-25, 01:09
I totally agree Clicking with a girl is the key to meaningful Prostitute encounters.
How many of you who care about looks are going to take an Ugly if your pal says she's easy to get along with and gives good service. Hahaha. NO WAY JoSe for me.
I'm seeing quite a few girls on Soi 6 who would make bank at Nana plaza but who just have bad deameanir.
It's possible they are still young and not with the program yet. I get a lot more Smiles from the older ones, a couple are kinda pretty but still can see signs of age. Hahaha.
GentileBear
07-10-25, 02:36
The next day we took the free gents club bar crawl that's offered by the chain of bars starting at Maggie May's. * Buzzin Lounge owned by the YouTuber who does the Buzzing Pattaya channel.
on. Except for the a-hole host that is.Thank you for the report! I finally got to shake Trevor's hand at the Buzzin Lounge this past March. And he wanted me to do one of the bar crawls. I never went back to Soi Pothole because the ladies are just not as 'hot' as what can be found on Soi 6. Will say that Trevor was cool with me. And I bought some LDs. But I still don't get why so many like Maggie Mays.
MongerHunger
07-10-25, 05:14
I am curios as to what you are paying for a RT flight from a US city? All you have to do is use Google Flights or any other similar search engine to see for yourself. No need to ask here because rates will vary and can change by the day and season.
Went down to Jomtien for a couple of days to get away from the hustle. Stayed at you Jomtien, nice place, I recommend. Went walking down Soi Welcome area. Not looking for action, just a hair cut, legit massage and some food. Cute spinner sitting outside a typical massage place (not dressed sexy, massage chairs behind glass window, etc.) gave me a nice smile. Thai oil was only 200 baht so I gave them a try. I've probably been to a dozen legit massage shops in BKK and Pattaya at this point, and right away things were different. Shower beforehand, told me to lay naked on the table. Right away, slight teasing and rubbing. Interesting. Finally, on the flip, she offered naked bjj / HJ for 1 K. Ok. Off came the cloths and she was dry humping my leg as she tugged me. She seems strangely into the whole thing, signaling me to be quiet, etc. After a bit I motioned for more. She seemed a bit more reluctant, but finally agreed 2 K for FS. Got her on her back and found the reason for her reluctance. Holy shit was she tight. Took a bit to warm her up enough I could finally pound her. Finished in mish, more massage, then a hug and downstairs for the typical water after. She took the 2 K and slipped it in her pocket, then I payed for the legit massage seperate downstairs. She was a cute, A-cup spinner, about mid-20's with a very minor bit of baby damage. Very sweet girl. Not sure if everyone there does extras or just her. The place was called Polla massage. Back to BKK for a flight to Camo tomorrow.
Exoticspirit
07-10-25, 13:00
OK so I have traveled many places in the world for decades but never to Thailand, about 10 years ago got only as close as the Philippines.
Now for the past almost 15 years living in Colombia and have played in every city and pueblo in Colombia both non-pro, freelancers and pros, I don't discriminate LOL, and I love Latin women especially Colombian chicas.
But out of curiosity I have read through a few pages on this forum and see the photos, the prices, the various venues and have drawn some conclusions namely:
1. The going rate is roughly 3000 BHT (Which is roughly $90 USD and here in Medellin I typically pay 130,000 Colombian pesos for a beautiful fresh and young gal with great attitude and girl friends sex to boot, now 130,000 pesos is about $35. USD.
2. The heat in Thailand is a turn off, I have partied in the Phillipines, the DR, Havana Cuba and all through Mexico and frankly the heat / humidity is no fun, unlike the weather we have in Medellin as it is always Spring here.
3. I just checked the airfare from Medellin Colombia to Thailand and you have to travel through the USA so the times to fly is about 2 days plus, no good then THE COST is ridiculous as I see the cost for RT as about $2,800 USD! Crazy. (I am curios as to what you are paying for a RT flight from a US city?
4. I have read and watched on YouTube that in Pattaya especially it is being overrun by Indians, is this true?
So all in all I just answered my own curiosity and questions, it is a no go for me to travel to Thailand.
I can fly RT from Medellin to the DR or Havana Cuba for about $335 USD and the flight is a few hours and not a few days.
Be safe all!
TTM.Thailand is way more than about mongering. I've travelled to Thailand twice and Colombia twice in the past year. Yes it's super tough to travel to southeast Asia from North American compared to just going south to Latin America. But from a non-mongering point of view, Thailand is so much better than Colombia in terms of food (Colombian cuisine is quite bland), safety (I never had to worry about walking about at all hours of the night) and tourism (magnificent temples, elephant sanctuaries, postcard perfect beaches in southern areas). Plus from personal mongering experience, the addition of soapy / nuru massage experiences is awesome in Thailand. Massages with any type of Colombian girl are forgettable. After 1-2 trips to Colombia, outside of mongering, I find there's really not much to do or see anymore. For example in Medellin, after seeing Comuna 13, Parque Arvi and even a day trip to Guatape (which was great), there's nothing else really interesting about Medellin besides the girls. In Thailand, there's just so much there which is why it's one of the most if not the most visited country in the world today. Plus once you get to Thailand, you can easily skip over to other amazing countries in the region like Vietnam and Cambodia. For international mongers, I would recommend both Thailand and Colombia be visited and I think most will enjoy both. Even if there's preference of one country's women over the other, I'm pretty confident that those who have visited will see Thailand as a complete vacation rather than just a pure mongering trip.
After 1-2 trips to Colombia, outside of mongering, I find there's really not much to do or see anymore. For example in Medellin, after seeing Comuna 13, Parque Arvi and even a day trip to Guatape (which was great), there's nothing else really interesting about Medellin besides the girls. In Thailand, there's just so much there which is why it's one of the most if not the most visited country in the world today. France was the most visited country last year. And not just last year, but many years already.
Thailand was no. 9 last year.
https://wptravel.io/most-visited-countries-in-the-world/#h-top-50-most-visited-countries-in-the-world-in-2024
MongerHunger
07-10-25, 16:11
Thailand is way more than about mongering.This is very true and I concur. I don't understand why people would travel to a foreign country many miles from home just to buy pussy and that's it. They are missing the whole point of traveling. I find that most people that only travel for sex are the ones that complain the most. They have no interest in the local culture, food, sites, music or traditions. They come already close minded and biased. Damn that must be a boring life. This can apply to any destination in the World. I have been to Colombia, Thailand and the Philippines multiple times but more times to Colombia. Every time I come to Thailand I thoroughly enjoy myself. The distance and cost to travel doesn't restrict me. I'm very open minded and not biased in my observations. If a person doesn't have any boots on the ground experience of a destination then they really don't know anything about what they are talking about because they have no actual experience. They just regurgitate talking points of others without any personal knowledge.
Old And Ugly
07-10-25, 16:46
3. I just checked the airfare from Medellin Colombia to Thailand and you have to travel through the USA so the times to fly is about 2 days plus, no good then THE COST is ridiculous as I see the cost for RT as about $2,800 USD! Crazy. (I am curios as to what you are paying for a RT flight from a US city?
TTM.Flew to Cebu from LAX for $400+ a month ago with United via NRT.
Then CRK to BKK for about $100 with Cebu Pacific.
MongerHunger
07-10-25, 18:29
A quick online search will tell you that flights next month (August) from LOS Angeles to Bangkok, Thailand are $394 USD currently. I just looked it up.
A quick online search will tell you that flights next month (August) from LOS Angeles to Bangkok, Thailand are $394 USD currently. I just looked it up.That's ridiculously cheap. I suppose it's one way, and not a direct flight?
This is very true and I concur. I don't understand why people would travel to a foreign country many miles from home just to buy pussy and that's it. They are missing the whole point of traveling. I find that most people that only travel for sex are the ones that complain the most. They have no interest in the local culture, food, sites, music or traditions. They come already close minded and biased. Damn that must be a boring life. This can apply to any destination in the World. I have been to Colombia, Thailand and the Philippines multiple times but more times to Colombia. Every time I come to Thailand I thoroughly enjoy myself. The distance and cost to travel doesn't restrict me. I'm very open minded and not biased in my observations. If a person doesn't have any boots on the ground experience of a destination then they really don't know anything about what they are talking about because they have no actual experience. They just regurgitate talking points of others without any personal knowledge.I did all the touristy stuff in Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines. Now all I want is good pussy with a nice pair of tits and a willing mouth.
LittleBigMan
07-12-25, 02:42
Being Curious I did do a search, Lax to BKK, on Evaair economy was gover 1300.00 USD, there is a new airline out of Taipei, Starlux based out of Taiwan also that have been keeping prices down a bit due to competition but not sure it flies to LAX.
United isn't any better from Cebu, out of Lax, it was 1400 USD, so curious what airline or website are we talking for under 400.00.
OK so I have traveled many places in the world for decades but never to Thailand, about 10 years ago got only as close as the Philippines.
Now for the past almost 15 years living in Colombia and have played in every city and pueblo in Colombia both non-pro, freelancers and pros, I don't discriminate LOL, and I love Latin women especially Colombian chicas.
But out of curiosity I have read through a few pages on this forum and see the photos, the prices, the various venues and have drawn some conclusions namely:
1. The going rate is roughly 3000 BHT (Which is roughly $90 USD and here in Medellin I typically pay 130,000 Colombian pesos for a beautiful fresh and young gal with great attitude and girl friends sex to boot, now 130,000 pesos is about $35. USD.
2. The heat in Thailand is a turn off, I have partied in the Phillipines, the DR, Havana Cuba and all through Mexico and frankly the heat / humidity is no fun, unlike the weather we have in Medellin as it is always Spring here.
3. I just checked the airfare from Medellin Colombia to Thailand and you have to travel through the USA so the times to fly is about 2 days plus, no good then THE COST is ridiculous as I see the cost for RT as about $2,800 USD! Crazy. (I am curios as to what you are paying for a RT flight from a US city?
4. I have read and watched on YouTube that in Pattaya especially it is being overrun by Indians, is this true?
So all in all I just answered my own curiosity and questions, it is a no go for me to travel to Thailand.
I can fly RT from Medellin to the DR or Havana Cuba for about $335 USD and the flight is a few hours and not a few days.
Be safe all!
TTM.Since you live in Medellin, you have access to local girls. Local girls who may see a few guys a month and are not total pros. It only makes sense that they don't ask for so much. Plus you live there and thus you have access to the girls any time. Time of epm due, rent, birthday, etc. When the need comes, even girls will see you for 100 mil!
The 3000 bt is for passport bros in thailand and I know the locals chaps who live there pay much much less than that. My buddy in cebu pays $10-$15/ college girl (cheaper than mde).
Lots of indians in Pattaya. Besides being smelly and annoying, there is one advantage of Indians- They are cheap. We want cheap mongers and let me tell you why. Back in the day, I was going to Costa Rica and the girls wanted $50-80. The passport bros found out and loads of gringos coming from USA throwing money at these girls. Now it's $150-$300. Same thing happening in mde. Going rate for putas at lleras is 400 mil, a few years ago it was 200 mil. Indians don't over pay and thus keep the prices down. Love this fact!
Before, russions used to come they used to bring their hot girls. Or groups of russian girls would travel alone. But this is not the case with indians. Only Groups of men and if an indian woman comes, she is not any like the bollywood stars.
One thing I want to share: latin girls are the best lovers in the world. Unlike thais, latins are wild and I love that. But they are also masters of cheating and I don't expect them to be faithful.
Medellin has the best climate in the world and why travel to Pattaya unless you have a purpose.
Reasons I would to travel to Pattaya if you are bored and want to try something new and of course if you have the extra cash to pay almost $3,000 for coach. Plus hotel stay and passport bro priceing for the girls.
I love spicy foods and mde sucks for that. Try their mexican nachos: runny cheese, sweet beef with bacon, it's a joke. But I'm in mde for the girls not the food. LOL.
If I were you, I woud stay in mde!
Old And Ugly
07-12-25, 08:38
Being Curious I did do a search, Lax to BKK, on Evaair economy was gover 1300.00 USD, there is a new airline out of Taipei, Starlux based out of Taiwan also that have been keeping prices down a bit due to competition but not sure it flies to LAX.
United isn't any better from Cebu, out of Lax, it was 1400 USD, so curious what airline or website are we talking for under 400.00.This is the first search done in 5 seconds. On orbitz. If you look more, you'll find even better ones.
CaliTraveler
07-12-25, 08:52
Skyscanner, book 3 week in advance.
LittleBigMan
07-12-25, 10:56
This is the first search done in 5 seconds. On orbitz. If you look more, you'll find even better ones.I did as noted put in Lax-BKk, cheapest 23,635 baht.
There is a notation like " from 198.00 " Hit got nothing! Not sure what " From " search nothing cheaper.
Just curious, I have retirement benefits going standby RT, runs me 350.00?
Old And Ugly
07-12-25, 11:00
Being Curious I did do a search, Lax to BKK, on Evaair economy was gover 1300.00 USD, there is a new airline out of Taipei, Starlux based out of Taiwan also that have been keeping prices down a bit due to competition but not sure it flies to LAX.
United isn't any better from Cebu, out of Lax, it was 1400 USD, so curious what airline or website are we talking for under 400.00.Another 5 seconds search on Starlux returns $561. Maybe you're looking at 1st class pricess.
If you're not stuck to certain dates, be a few days flexible, buy the air first, because that's the most expensive part, and plan the rest of the stuff around that.
......latin girls are the best lovers in the world. Unlike thais, latins are wild and I love that. But they are also masters of cheating and I don't expect them to be faithful.......
..Do you expect Thai girls to be faithful?
OK so I have traveled many places in the world for decades but never to Thailand, about 10 years ago got only as close as the Philippines......
1. The going rate is roughly 3000 BHT (Which is roughly $90 USD and here in Medellin I typically pay 130,000 Colombian pesos for a beautiful fresh and young gal with great attitude and girl friends sex to boot, now 130,000 pesos is about $35. USD....
TTM.To be honest, I don't think it's worth it at all if you can get it for 130,000 pesos in Medellin. Which is pretty damn incredible for a hot young Latina BTW. I think the last time I paid that was in 2015 or 2016, but of course I don't live there LOL.
I was in Thailand and Laos for trekking last December to January for ~4 weeks. I only spent a small amount of time mongering, but I will say a few things:
1) It's hard to find curvy Latina body type girls in Thailand. While they are getting bigger, they are quite petite and skinny for the most part
2) I was able to get some attractive independent girls from bars for 2000 BHT (as I recall).
3) Performance is subpart relative to Latinas.
The above noted, the quality of accommodations, food, shopping, and cultural sites blow Colombia out of the water. If you go for a month or more it may be worth trying. , just look beyond the girls.
My humble two cents.
Do you expect Thai girls to be faithful?LOL.
So funny.
SouthEaster
07-13-25, 02:08
I don't know which Thailand you went too but the one I went to in April was full of fat chicks, to the point they outnumbered skinny ones.
LittleBigMan
07-13-25, 08:51
Another 5 seconds search on Starlux returns $561. Maybe you're looking at 1st class pricess.
If you're not stuck to certain dates, be a few days flexible, buy the air first, because that's the most expensive part, and plan the rest of the stuff around that.Just as I thought another five seconds you would have realized the price you noted is one way only!
Lowest from Lax was like 475 the return is 675? Add it up!.
First class prices are usually 4,000 USD up, reason no way I was looking wrong, premium economy on Starlux running 1800 USD same with Eva.
Just as I thought another five seconds you would have realized the price you noted is one way only!
Lowest from Lax was like 475 the return is 675? Add it up!.
First class prices are usually 4,000 USD up, reason no way I was looking wrong, premium economy on Starlux running 1800 USD same with Eva.10 seconds to find one for 598€.
https://www.skyscanner.es/transporte/vuelos/lax/bkkt/251008/251022/?adultsv2=1&cabinclass=economy&childrenv2=&inboundaltsenabled=false&outboundaltsenabled=false&preferdirects=false&priceSourceId=&priceTrace=202507121247*I*LAX*BKK*20251008*ates*SQ%7 C202507121247*I*BKK*LAX*20251022*ates*SQ&qp_prevCurrency=EUR&qp_prevPrice=580&qp_prevProvider=ins_month&rtn=1.
Old And Ugly
07-13-25, 14:56
Just as I thought another five seconds you would have realized the price you noted is one way only!
Lowest from Lax was like 475 the return is 675? Add it up!.
First class prices are usually 4,000 USD up, reason no way I was looking wrong, premium economy on Starlux running 1800 USD same with Eva.Yes, that's what I said initially: ONE WAY, and the first class thing was a joke.
Any way, I was only trying to help. No need to convince you, or nobody else about nothing, because "nothing else matters".
Regular fare 2 way from US is around 1500, sometime more, sometime less depends on how lucky you are.
Myself, I only buy one way because I live in SEA, and I don't really know where I'm going to end up next month. Maybe I read about some interesting place, or some add with cheap airfare pops up in my email, or I read about pussy being on sale someplace, that's how I make my plans.
CaliTexMex
07-13-25, 17:49
Recently got back from a few months trip to Thailand arriving before Songkran. Stayed in Pattaya mostly. I have not been back since right before COVID shut everything down and it was quite the shocker to return. Been coming to Thailand since 2014 yearly, sometimes with a few trips per year until the disaster of our current human leadership degraded itself to new depths.
I was primarily surprised at how the traditionally Bangkokian conceited attitude from overpriced working girls had sauntered its way south to Pattaya. Not going with hansum man, prior only rarely experienced in the more "upscale" gogos, had become a common occurrence, also infecting the bar lasses and coconut courtesans to lesser degrees, respectively. "Coyotes", "sick pussy" (STD? Bleeding? "only drink" from some, with a younger gentleman's club lady begrudgingly agreeing to a 600 THB BBBJ (+400 for the house). Windmill, Chick, Shark, Champagne (major WTF! Bliss, Sapphire. No matter the prestige or target market, all ladies were basically 4000/7000 THB + 2500 for the house, even as late as 03:15.
Prior trips I had always been able to regularly pull the hottest girls for maximum 1000/2000 + 500-1000 for the house. Any gogo was negotiable before, both barfine and lady rate. Most ever prior trips was 1000 + 2000 LT from Shooters in 2018 (back then they had serious talent) and most recent (right before COVID) and memorable was Pandoras for 400 + 1000 for a jaw dropping schoolgirl.
These are the dreams men live for and what makes a country top class.
I soon soured on the current gogo scene. During Songkran the girls' attitude in general was shit. Not as many to choose from and girls everywhere, except a few token spots, asking way too much. The most egregious was a cute 20 year old non-tattooed girl at Namthip bar asking 4000 THB + 1500 for the house to leave at 02:45 off deep in Soi Bukhao. We had bumped into each other on the street, and I was thankful to finally see an attractive natural young woman during Songkran that was available for a fine. We chatted for a while over a drink via translator. After I offered her 1000 THB for a quick shag, the next question she asked me was, "Do you like children?
I asked her to clarify. She pointed to her much older and fatter sisters. Had the feminist bullshit infected my beloved Thai women? This trip was turning out the worst trip out of roughly two dozen. Before parting ways as she refused to budge from 4000, turning down my very generous 2000 THB offer, I made sure she saw the fat stack of 1000's in my wallet as I was paying. She noticeably perked up, but quickly downplayed her gut reaction with that increasingly-common haughty, "I've got plenty of sponsors" attitude as she scurried off to the back to change clothes to go home. Exchanging LINEs, which worked in the past to soften them up over time, could not crack her mercenary attitude. "4000!" she would only respond.
Old reliable Soi Honey delivered a very decent 20 year old 30 minutes later for 1000 THB + 200 for the house. Wow, the massage partitions had markedly improved! No more cardboard walls and soiled sheets. This was by far the best change to the scene since COVID. I would return several times for BBBJs, a few more CFS, with one nerdy skinny young girl with big fake tits demanding CBJ, which I always oblige but do not prefer.
When not having to work hard during the "day" back home, I would stroll Beach Road to get some cardio and look for diamonds. Some of my best lays and terrifying situations were from the coconut bar. This trip thankfully there were no dangerous experiences, but reflecting the broader economy, the talent was significantly down along with the display of girls, often shying or cowering from the rambunctious stroll of the GoPro / cell phone vortexes of bad vibes calling themselves "vloggers"influencers". These guys need the Mexico / Colombia treatment. Luckily I found a few decent women in their 30's, of whom I would finally visit their preferred short time hotels out of curiosity. The prices for the room with a fan was 200 THB + 1000 for the lady for BBBJ + CFS.
Sometimes with a light massage first. These beds reminded me of the old Soi 6 rooms. Miraculously never got sick, likely due to historical dues.
The second biggest surprise were the amount of fat piggies. Oink. Oink. Had I landed in Angeles City? Looking back at all the old photos confirmed it wasn't less-liver-strained beer goggles of years past inciting the lust a traditional Thai woman invokes. These girls had a lot of time and extra money to sit around and pound rice. If you're into "thick" women you'll be in hog heaven. Do the, formerly "normal", skinny Thai women know they are in smaller supply?
The third surprise were the rates for CFS. I never paid more than 1500 THB this trip, with the mean around 1100 THB to the girl. Most attractive women (all prior trips paying 500 - 1000 THB) wanted 2000-3000 for a short time which is frankly not worth it. Luckily I am not as hungry as I was in my 20's and can go days without busting if needed. The best finds of the trip included a girl at "LOL Lita" bar in Soi Made in Thailand, a brand new lighter skinned, non-tattoed 8/10 who had just turned 20 according to her ID. We played a couple games of pool while having a few drinks, which cost 180 THB for her. Barfines were 800 THB. We negotiated for a while and settled on 1000 THB for CFS or 1500 THB for CFS + BBBJ, an action she was refused to provide during negotiations. Later in the room she would give me a BBBJ before I slowly fucked her very tight pussy in a few positions before busting a huge load. I would leave her with 1000 THB while she gave me a naughty smile saying "Why you not give more?" before lunging for a kiss on the cheek after exchanging LINEs and going to her taxi.
The next best find was on Soi 6 at LUST. A solid 8/10 20 year old nurse on her first week. Huge natural DDs that were as perky as any. Sweet girl with a brain; no tattoos. Settled on 1200 THB + 400 for the house. The most novel event was being punched in the cock after refusing to buy a toy or cookie from someone who should not be out late on Soi 6. The second most novel: a girl offering two shots in a two hour session for 1500 THB on Soi 6. She followed through in earnest.
Most novel new place was a massage brothel right off Walking Street that had full service as low as 1000 THB for 15 minutes of service and attractive girls. I chose the 1500 THB 30 minute package but only needed 15 minutes as the girl was a sweet young girl from Chiang Mai with another very tight pussy. The place had a nice room with clean transparent shower in which the girl was not shy in lathering you up. Not sure what it's named but you can't miss it if you notice small print. I thought their time / tier pricing model was fair and reminded me of European establishments. This could catch on.
There seems to be a large group of bars on Soi 6 which are engaging in near extortion. Minimum drinks, livestreaming, outrageous short time rates, Asian customers only, etc. I think these belonged to a certain notorious wicked group but can't be sure. Easy to avoid after a few queries upfront.
The fourth surprise were the increasing age of the girls available. Thailand apparently has decided to supply gringos with the see-team talent and gringos happily pay multiples of what was asked just a few years ago from the be and A-team talent. What's up with this 20 year old age floor? I had turned away the entire army of women at Champagne, or what's left of it, due to them being so damn ugly and old, a bevy of heavily-tatted, blown-out banshees better fitted for the Nuevo Laredo donkey show, until Mama pulled a very nice girl who turned out to be 19 from the back. Had a drink and chat with her. When asking for the barfine she said 20 was the age limit for a barfine. When she got up to dance, she kept the pair of shorts over her gstring. Lame. What the hell was happening? Is this place America? Will we be able to look at attractive women in another 10 years without legal concern?
Men, we have lost our way. Another topic for another time.
The fifth surprise was, for the first time, I felt completely assured that as the man with the balls and the money, *I* was making the rules and calling the shots completely. It was a combination of rekindling from the successes found among the masses of bad deals, the much cheaper and / or better deals had elsewhere, the lack of desperation due to time and experience, and the resolve to strengthen the fraternity ascribed to all men, regardless of background, who visit Pattaya to experience the options only celebrities (now iffy) and attractive young homosexual men can experience back home. Good pussy is in massive oversupply in Asia, Africa, Eastern Europe, and Latin America. Good money is not, regardless of the front Thai women are increasingly relying on to their detriment.
The sixth surprise were all the new clubs on Walking Street. Wow India represents! Way too loud though. Never entered. Myst is an absolute mosh pit with bad attitudes and no attractive girls that ever wanted to fuck. Insomnia still has decent talent and good vibes. Got an early 30's natural gym girl to fuck for 1000 THB at 03:00 on a weekend. Everywhere else was mostly full of uninspiring girls or girls asking 2000+ for a short time.
The seventh surprise was ThaiFriendly actually working with hot girls. In years past I had used paid versions with nothing but catfish attempts. Always sent them packing with a few baht for taxi. This time every girl was as shown. One girl was coming after her shift at her massage shop. She was a cute 22 year old girl with natural perky the tits. Great English. We talked for about an hour while.
She cleaned my messy condo up. It was so erotic watching her clean and hold her drooping t-shirt with one hand to now show her cleavage in her bra while sweeping the floor and balcony. She was a sensitive, kind girl who had a hobby of adopting stray animals. We eventually consummated our agreement, 1000 THB, after about 90 minutes of cleaning every inch of the place (with me helping) with a standard session. Ended up giving her an extra 500 THB for the cleaning and light massage she gave. She would message many times asking to clean again. In typical Pattaya fashion, I would not meet a second time. Great gal.
I would regularly chat with girls asking 3000+ for ST, prices you could get for similar age / quality if you know where to look in Dubai, among other places. Any medium chosen this trip for good, fairly-priced pussy needed uncomfortably increased effort, a troubling trend.
Have online streaming / chatting services ruined Pattaya? Are foreign simps grossly overpaying for pussy (or worse, attention), no matter how hot and young? Was it the luck of the draw this trip? Are the cameras ruining the vibe? Do men care less for their fellow man?
Nobody likely has all the answers. What I will say is that the desire to revisit Thailand has dropped heavily. Never could have imagined saying this. While not as crazy and licentious as Thailand, there are other countries nearby and in other regions that offer better value for pussy, an understatement for some. I can see a newer definition of short times with increasing pricing offered by more establishments finding middle ground to keep both pounders and providers happy. Short time guys don't use up much time, especially if the quality is high. I could also see girls offering more genuine long massages, cleaning services, and / or cooking to support the prices they are asking.
Attached are some photos of girls I had this visit. This is the lowest quality and worst trip out of many in terms of paid women. I will most likely continue my yearly trips to Europe and, occasionally, Latin America. Asia I'm not sure is worth the hike. Looking at the photos of years past confirms the hottest girls I pulled this trip were the average of prior trips, with much higher quantity and availability at lower prices. I will forever appreciate the lessons learned from visiting this novel land. The world needs the Pattaya of the past.
Yes, that's what I said initially: ONE WAY, and the first class thing was a joke.
Any way, I was only trying to help. No need to convince you, or nobody else about nothing, because "nothing else matters".
Regular fare 2 way from US is around 1500, sometime more, sometime less depends on how lucky you are.
Myself, I only buy one way because I live in SEA, and I don't really know where I'm going to end up next month. Maybe I read about some interesting place, or some add with cheap airfare pops up in my email, or I read about pussy being on sale someplace, that's how I make my plans.Not 1500, about 600 2 way, as I showed in my last message. In other dates it can get up to 700, quite far from the 1500.
Old And Ugly
07-13-25, 20:08
Recently got back from a few months trip to Thailand arriving before Songkran. Stayed in Pattaya mostly. I have not been back since right before COVID shut everything down and it was quite the shocker to return. Been coming to Thailand since 2014 yearly, sometimes with a few trips per year until the disaster of our current human leadership degraded itself to new depths.
I was primarily surprised at how the traditionally Bangkokian conceited attitude from overpriced working girls had sauntered its way south to Pattaya. Not going with hansum man, prior only rarely experienced in the more "upscale" gogos, had become a common occurrence, also infecting the bar lasses and coconut courtesans to lesser degrees, respectively. "Coyotes", "sick pussy" (STD? Bleeding? "only drink" from some, with a younger gentleman's club lady begrudgingly agreeing to a 600 THB BBBJ (+400 for the house). Windmill, Chick, Shark, Champagne (major WTF! Bliss, Sapphire. No matter the prestige or target market, all ladies were basically 4000/7000 THB + 2500 for the house, even as late as 03:15.
Prior trips I had always been able to regularly pull the hottest girls for maximum 1000/2000 + 500-1000 for the house. Any gogo was negotiable before, both barfine and lady rate. Most ever prior trips was 1000 + 2000 LT from Shooters in 2018 (back then they had serious talent) and most recent (right before COVID) and memorable was Pandoras for 400 + 1000 for a jaw dropping schoolgirl.
These are the dreams men live for and what makes a country top class.
I soon soured on the current gogo scene. During Songkran the girls' attitude in general was shit. Not as many to choose from and girls everywhere, except a few token spots, asking way too much. The most egregious was a cute 20 year old non-tattooed girl at Namthip bar asking 4000 THB + 1500 for the house to leave at 02:45 off deep in Soi Bukhao. We had bumped into each other on the street, and I was thankful to finally see an attractive natural young woman during Songkran that was available for a fine. We chatted for a while over a drink via translator. After I offered her 1000 THB for a quick shag, the next question she asked me was, "Do you like children?
I asked her to clarify. She pointed to her much older and fatter sisters. Had the feminist bullshit infected my beloved Thai women? This trip was turning out the worst trip out of roughly two dozen. Before parting ways as she refused to budge from 4000, turning down my very generous 2000 THB offer, I made sure she saw the fat stack of 1000's in my wallet as I was paying. She noticeably perked up, but quickly downplayed her gut reaction with that increasingly-common haughty, "I've got plenty of sponsors" attitude as she scurried off to the back to change clothes to go home. Exchanging LINEs, which worked in the past to soften them up over time, could not crack her mercenary attitude. "4000!" she would only respond.
Old reliable Soi Honey delivered a very decent 20 year old 30 minutes later for 1000 THB + 200 for the house. Wow, the massage partitions had markedly improved! No more cardboard walls and soiled sheets. This was by far the best change to the scene since COVID. I would return several times for BBBJs, a few more CFS, with one nerdy skinny young girl with big fake tits demanding CBJ, which I always oblige but do not prefer.
When not having to work hard during the "day" back home, I would stroll Beach Road to get some cardio and look for diamonds. Some of my best lays and terrifying situations were from the coconut bar. This trip thankfully there were no dangerous experiences, but reflecting the broader economy, the talent was significantly down along with the display of girls, often shying or cowering from the rambunctious stroll of the GoPro / cell phone vortexes of bad vibes calling themselves "vloggers"influencers". These guys need the Mexico / Colombia treatment. Luckily I found a few decent women in their 30's, of whom I would finally visit their preferred short time hotels out of curiosity. The prices for the room with a fan was 200 THB + 1000 for the lady for BBBJ + CFS.
Sometimes with a light massage first. These beds reminded me of the old Soi 6 rooms. Miraculously never got sick, likely due to historical dues.
The second biggest surprise were the amount of fat piggies. Oink. Oink. Had I landed in Angeles City? Looking back at all the old photos confirmed it wasn't less-liver-strained beer goggles of years past inciting the lust a traditional Thai woman invokes. These girls had a lot of time and extra money to sit around and pound rice. If you're into "thick" women you'll be in hog heaven. Do the, formerly "normal", skinny Thai women know they are in smaller supply?
The third surprise were the rates for CFS. I never paid more than 1500 THB this trip, with the mean around 1100 THB to the girl. Most attractive women (all prior trips paying 500 - 1000 THB) wanted 2000-3000 for a short time which is frankly not worth it. Luckily I am not as hungry as I was in my 20's and can go days without busting if needed. The best finds of the trip included a girl at "LOL Lita" bar in Soi Made in Thailand, a brand new lighter skinned, non-tattoed 8/10 who had just turned 20 according to her ID. We played a couple games of pool while having a few drinks, which cost 180 THB for her. Barfines were 800 THB. We negotiated for a while and settled on 1000 THB for CFS or 1500 THB for CFS + BBBJ, an action she was refused to provide during negotiations. Later in the room she would give me a BBBJ before I slowly fucked her very tight pussy in a few positions before busting a huge load. I would leave her with 1000 THB while she gave me a naughty smile saying "Why you not give more?" before lunging for a kiss on the cheek after exchanging LINEs and going to her taxi.
The next best find was on Soi 6 at LUST. A solid 8/10 20 year old nurse on her first week. Huge natural DDs that were as perky as any. Sweet girl with a brain; no tattoos. Settled on 1200 THB + 400 for the house. The most novel event was being punched in the cock after refusing to buy a toy or cookie from someone who should not be out late on Soi 6. The second most novel: a girl offering two shots in a two hour session for 1500 THB on Soi 6. She followed through in earnest.
Most novel new place was a massage brothel right off Walking Street that had full service as low as 1000 THB for 15 minutes of service and attractive girls. I chose the 1500 THB 30 minute package but only needed 15 minutes as the girl was a sweet young girl from Chiang Mai with another very tight pussy. The place had a nice room with clean transparent shower in which the girl was not shy in lathering you up. Not sure what it's named but you can't miss it if you notice small print. I thought their time / tier pricing model was fair and reminded me of European establishments. This could catch on.
There seems to be a large group of bars on Soi 6 which are engaging in near extortion. Minimum drinks, livestreaming, outrageous short time rates, Asian customers only, etc. I think these belonged to a certain notorious wicked group but can't be sure. Easy to avoid after a few queries upfront.
The fourth surprise were the increasing age of the girls available. Thailand apparently has decided to supply gringos with the see-team talent and gringos happily pay multiples of what was asked just a few years ago from the be and A-team talent. What's up with this 20 year old age floor? I had turned away the entire army of women at Champagne, or what's left of it, due to them being so damn ugly and old, a bevy of heavily-tatted, blown-out banshees better fitted for the Nuevo Laredo donkey show, until Mama pulled a very nice girl who turned out to be 19 from the back. Had a drink and chat with her. When asking for the barfine she said 20 was the age limit for a barfine. When she got up to dance, she kept the pair of shorts over her gstring. Lame. What the hell was happening? Is this place America? Will we be able to look at attractive women in another 10 years without legal concern?
Men, we have lost our way. Another topic for another time.
The fifth surprise was, for the first time, I felt completely assured that as the man with the balls and the money, *I* was making the rules and calling the shots completely. It was a combination of rekindling from the successes found among the masses of bad deals, the much cheaper and / or better deals had elsewhere, the lack of desperation due to time and experience, and the resolve to strengthen the fraternity ascribed to all men, regardless of background, who visit Pattaya to experience the options only celebrities (now iffy) and attractive young homosexual men can experience back home. Good pussy is in massive oversupply in Asia, Africa, Eastern Europe, and Latin America. Good money is not, regardless of the front Thai women are increasingly relying on to their detriment.
The sixth surprise were all the new clubs on Walking Street. Wow India represents! Way too loud though. Never entered. Myst is an absolute mosh pit with bad attitudes and no attractive girls that ever wanted to fuck. Insomnia still has decent talent and good vibes. Got an early 30's natural gym girl to fuck for 1000 THB at 03:00 on a weekend. Everywhere else was mostly full of uninspiring girls or girls asking 2000+ for a short time.
The seventh surprise was ThaiFriendly actually working with hot girls. In years past I had used paid versions with nothing but catfish attempts. Always sent them packing with a few baht for taxi. This time every girl was as shown. One girl was coming after her shift at her massage shop. She was a cute 22 year old girl with natural perky the tits. Great English. We talked for about an hour while.
She cleaned my messy condo up. It was so erotic watching her clean and hold her drooping t-shirt with one hand to now show her cleavage in her bra while sweeping the floor and balcony. She was a sensitive, kind girl who had a hobby of adopting stray animals. We eventually consummated our agreement, 1000 THB, after about 90 minutes of cleaning every inch of the place (with me helping) with a standard session. Ended up giving her an extra 500 THB for the cleaning and light massage she gave. She would message many times asking to clean again. In typical Pattaya fashion, I would not meet a second time. Great gal.
I would regularly chat with girls asking 3000+ for ST, prices you could get for similar age / quality if you know where to look in Dubai, among other places. Any medium chosen this trip for good, fairly-priced pussy needed uncomfortably increased effort, a troubling trend.
Have online streaming / chatting services ruined Pattaya? Are foreign simps grossly overpaying for pussy (or worse, attention), no matter how hot and young? Was it the luck of the draw this trip? Are the cameras ruining the vibe? Do men care less for their fellow man?
Nobody likely has all the answers. What I will say is that the desire to revisit Thailand has dropped heavily. Never could have imagined saying this. While not as crazy and licentious as Thailand, there are other countries nearby and in other regions that offer better value for pussy, an understatement for some. I can see a newer definition of short times with increasing pricing offered by more establishments finding middle ground to keep both pounders and providers happy. Short time guys don't use up much time, especially if the quality is high. I could also see girls offering more genuine long massages, cleaning services, and / or cooking to support the prices they are asking.
Attached are some photos of girls I had this visit. This is the lowest quality and worst trip out of many in terms of paid women. I will most likely continue my yearly trips to Europe and, occasionally, Latin America. Asia I'm not sure is worth the hike. Looking at the photos of years past confirms the hottest girls I pulled this trip were the average of prior trips, with much higher quantity and availability at lower prices. I will forever appreciate the lessons learned from visiting this novel land. The world needs the Pattaya of the past.Great report, the best so far. I had an identical experience just a week ago, I wrote about it, not so detailed and professional like you did, but everybody jumped for my throat, saying that I don't know what I'm talking about, so badly that I started to think that I lost it, and I didn't knew what I was doing.
MongerHunger
07-13-25, 20:18
I did all the touristy stuff in Thailand, Cambodia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Philippines. Now all I want is good pussy with a nice pair of tits and a willing mouth.No matter how many times you go to these listed countries you will never see everything. (For example, The Philippines has over 7,000 Islands) Also, there are many places in countries that the average Foreign Tourists don't know about and cater to the local population. I know we all have our preferences and I love to mix it up with lots of culture and local food options. I have a exploratory and adventurous nature with a genuine interested of the culture and traditions of Foreign Lands. Of course, the ladies are the icing on the cake for sure.
UglyAzzMan
07-14-25, 00:13
Recently got back from a few months trip to Thailand arriving before Songkran. Stayed in Pattaya mostly. I have not been back since right before COVID shut everything down and it was quite the shocker to return. Been coming to Thailand since 2014 yearly, sometimes with a few trips per year until the disaster of our current human leadership degraded itself to new depths.
I was primarily surprised at how the traditionally Bangkokian conceited attitude from overpriced working girls had sauntered its way south to Pattaya. Not going with hansum man, prior only rarely experienced in the more "upscale" gogos, had become a common occurrence, also infecting the bar lasses and coconut courtesans to lesser degrees, respectively. "Coyotes", "sick pussy" (STD? Bleeding? "only drink" from some, with a younger gentleman's club lady begrudgingly agreeing to a 600 THB BBBJ (+400 for the house). Windmill, Chick, Shark, Champagne (major WTF! Bliss, Sapphire. No matter the prestige or target market, all ladies were basically 4000/7000 THB + 2500 for the house, even as late as 03:15.
Prior trips I had always been able to regularly pull the hottest girls for maximum 1000/2000 + 500-1000 for the house. Any gogo was negotiable before, both barfine and lady rate. Most ever prior trips was 1000 + 2000 LT from Shooters in 2018 (back then they had serious talent) and most recent (right before COVID) and memorable was Pandoras for 400 + 1000 for a jaw dropping schoolgirl.
These are the dreams men live for and what makes a country top class.
I soon soured on the current gogo scene. During Songkran the girls' attitude in general was shit. Not as many to choose from and girls everywhere, except a few token spots, asking way too much. The most egregious was a cute 20 year old non-tattooed girl at Namthip bar asking 4000 THB + 1500 for the house to leave at 02:45 off deep in Soi Bukhao. We had bumped into each other on the street, and I was thankful to finally see an attractive natural young woman during Songkran that was available for a fine. We chatted for a while over a drink via translator. After I offered her 1000 THB for a quick shag, the next question she asked me was, "Do you like children?
I asked her to clarify. She pointed to her much older and fatter sisters. Had the feminist bullshit infected my beloved Thai women? This trip was turning out the worst trip out of roughly two dozen. Before parting ways as she refused to budge from 4000, turning down my very generous 2000 THB offer, I made sure she saw the fat stack of 1000's in my wallet as I was paying. She noticeably perked up, but quickly downplayed her gut reaction with that increasingly-common haughty, "I've got plenty of sponsors" attitude as she scurried off to the back to change clothes to go home. Exchanging LINEs, which worked in the past to soften them up over time, could not crack her mercenary attitude. "4000!" she would only respond.
Old reliable Soi Honey delivered a very decent 20 year old 30 minutes later for 1000 THB + 200 for the house. Wow, the massage partitions had markedly improved! No more cardboard walls and soiled sheets. This was by far the best change to the scene since COVID. I would return several times for BBBJs, a few more CFS, with one nerdy skinny young girl with big fake tits demanding CBJ, which I always oblige but do not prefer.
When not having to work hard during the "day" back home, I would stroll Beach Road to get some cardio and look for diamonds. Some of my best lays and terrifying situations were from the coconut bar. This trip thankfully there were no dangerous experiences, but reflecting the broader economy, the talent was significantly down along with the display of girls, often shying or cowering from the rambunctious stroll of the GoPro / cell phone vortexes of bad vibes calling themselves "vloggers"influencers". These guys need the Mexico / Colombia treatment. Luckily I found a few decent women in their 30's, of whom I would finally visit their preferred short time hotels out of curiosity. The prices for the room with a fan was 200 THB + 1000 for the lady for BBBJ + CFS.
Sometimes with a light massage first. These beds reminded me of the old Soi 6 rooms. Miraculously never got sick, likely due to historical dues.
The second biggest surprise were the amount of fat piggies. Oink. Oink. Had I landed in Angeles City? Looking back at all the old photos confirmed it wasn't less-liver-strained beer goggles of years past inciting the lust a traditional Thai woman invokes. These girls had a lot of time and extra money to sit around and pound rice. If you're into "thick" women you'll be in hog heaven. Do the, formerly "normal", skinny Thai women know they are in smaller supply?
The third surprise were the rates for CFS. I never paid more than 1500 THB this trip, with the mean around 1100 THB to the girl. Most attractive women (all prior trips paying 500 - 1000 THB) wanted 2000-3000 for a short time which is frankly not worth it. Luckily I am not as hungry as I was in my 20's and can go days without busting if needed. The best finds of the trip included a girl at "LOL Lita" bar in Soi Made in Thailand, a brand new lighter skinned, non-tattoed 8/10 who had just turned 20 according to her ID. We played a couple games of pool while having a few drinks, which cost 180 THB for her. Barfines were 800 THB. We negotiated for a while and settled on 1000 THB for CFS or 1500 THB for CFS + BBBJ, an action she was refused to provide during negotiations. Later in the room she would give me a BBBJ before I slowly fucked her very tight pussy in a few positions before busting a huge load. I would leave her with 1000 THB while she gave me a naughty smile saying "Why you not give more?" before lunging for a kiss on the cheek after exchanging LINEs and going to her taxi.
The next best find was on Soi 6 at LUST. A solid 8/10 20 year old nurse on her first week. Huge natural DDs that were as perky as any. Sweet girl with a brain; no tattoos. Settled on 1200 THB + 400 for the house. The most novel event was being punched in the cock after refusing to buy a toy or cookie from someone who should not be out late on Soi 6. The second most novel: a girl offering two shots in a two hour session for 1500 THB on Soi 6. She followed through in earnest.
Most novel new place was a massage brothel right off Walking Street that had full service as low as 1000 THB for 15 minutes of service and attractive girls. I chose the 1500 THB 30 minute package but only needed 15 minutes as the girl was a sweet young girl from Chiang Mai with another very tight pussy. The place had a nice room with clean transparent shower in which the girl was not shy in lathering you up. Not sure what it's named but you can't miss it if you notice small print. I thought their time / tier pricing model was fair and reminded me of European establishments. This could catch on.
There seems to be a large group of bars on Soi 6 which are engaging in near extortion. Minimum drinks, livestreaming, outrageous short time rates, Asian customers only, etc. I think these belonged to a certain notorious wicked group but can't be sure. Easy to avoid after a few queries upfront.
The fourth surprise were the increasing age of the girls available. Thailand apparently has decided to supply gringos with the see-team talent and gringos happily pay multiples of what was asked just a few years ago from the be and A-team talent. What's up with this 20 year old age floor? I had turned away the entire army of women at Champagne, or what's left of it, due to them being so damn ugly and old, a bevy of heavily-tatted, blown-out banshees better fitted for the Nuevo Laredo donkey show, until Mama pulled a very nice girl who turned out to be 19 from the back. Had a drink and chat with her. When asking for the barfine she said 20 was the age limit for a barfine. When she got up to dance, she kept the pair of shorts over her gstring. Lame. What the hell was happening? Is this place America? Will we be able to look at attractive women in another 10 years without legal concern?
Men, we have lost our way. Another topic for another time.
The fifth surprise was, for the first time, I felt completely assured that as the man with the balls and the money, *I* was making the rules and calling the shots completely. It was a combination of rekindling from the successes found among the masses of bad deals, the much cheaper and / or better deals had elsewhere, the lack of desperation due to time and experience, and the resolve to strengthen the fraternity ascribed to all men, regardless of background, who visit Pattaya to experience the options only celebrities (now iffy) and attractive young homosexual men can experience back home. Good pussy is in massive oversupply in Asia, Africa, Eastern Europe, and Latin America. Good money is not, regardless of the front Thai women are increasingly relying on to their detriment.
The sixth surprise were all the new clubs on Walking Street. Wow India represents! Way too loud though. Never entered. Myst is an absolute mosh pit with bad attitudes and no attractive girls that ever wanted to fuck. Insomnia still has decent talent and good vibes. Got an early 30's natural gym girl to fuck for 1000 THB at 03:00 on a weekend. Everywhere else was mostly full of uninspiring girls or girls asking 2000+ for a short time.
The seventh surprise was ThaiFriendly actually working with hot girls. In years past I had used paid versions with nothing but catfish attempts. Always sent them packing with a few baht for taxi. This time every girl was as shown. One girl was coming after her shift at her massage shop. She was a cute 22 year old girl with natural perky the tits. Great English. We talked for about an hour while.
She cleaned my messy condo up. It was so erotic watching her clean and hold her drooping t-shirt with one hand to now show her cleavage in her bra while sweeping the floor and balcony. She was a sensitive, kind girl who had a hobby of adopting stray animals. We eventually consummated our agreement, 1000 THB, after about 90 minutes of cleaning every inch of the place (with me helping) with a standard session. Ended up giving her an extra 500 THB for the cleaning and light massage she gave. She would message many times asking to clean again. In typical Pattaya fashion, I would not meet a second time. Great gal.
I would regularly chat with girls asking 3000+ for ST, prices you could get for similar age / quality if you know where to look in Dubai, among other places. Any medium chosen this trip for good, fairly-priced pussy needed uncomfortably increased effort, a troubling trend.
Have online streaming / chatting services ruined Pattaya? Are foreign simps grossly overpaying for pussy (or worse, attention), no matter how hot and young? Was it the luck of the draw this trip? Are the cameras ruining the vibe? Do men care less for their fellow man?
Nobody likely has all the answers. What I will say is that the desire to revisit Thailand has dropped heavily. Never could have imagined saying this. While not as crazy and licentious as Thailand, there are other countries nearby and in other regions that offer better value for pussy, an understatement for some. I can see a newer definition of short times with increasing pricing offered by more establishments finding middle ground to keep both pounders and providers happy. Short time guys don't use up much time, especially if the quality is high. I could also see girls offering more genuine long massages, cleaning services, and / or cooking to support the prices they are asking.
Attached are some photos of girls I had this visit. This is the lowest quality and worst trip out of many in terms of paid women. I will most likely continue my yearly trips to Europe and, occasionally, Latin America. Asia I'm not sure is worth the hike. Looking at the photos of years past confirms the hottest girls I pulled this trip were the average of prior trips, with much higher quantity and availability at lower prices. I will forever appreciate the lessons learned from visiting this novel land. The world needs the Pattaya of the past.All I read was he found a Hottie and he offered 1,000. Hahaha.
1. Are you from the sub, continent that rhymes with chindia.
2. Come on Bro.
Might read the whole thing later. Dude.
Recently got back from a few months trip to Thailand arriving before Songkran. Stayed in Pattaya mostly. I have not been back since right before COVID shut everything down and it was quite the shocker to return. Been coming to Thailand since 2014 yearly, sometimes with a few trips per year until the disaster of our current human leadership degraded itself to new depths.
I was primarily surprised at how the traditionally Bangkokian conceited attitude from overpriced working girls had sauntered its way south to Pattaya. Not going with hansum man, prior only rarely experienced in the more "upscale" gogos, had become a common occurrence, also infecting the bar lasses and coconut courtesans to lesser degrees, respectively. "Coyotes", "sick pussy" (STD? Bleeding? "only drink" from some, with a younger gentleman's club lady begrudgingly agreeing to a 600 THB BBBJ (+400 for the house). Windmill, Chick, Shark, Champagne (major WTF! Bliss, Sapphire. No matter the prestige or target market, all ladies were basically 4000/7000 THB + 2500 for the house, even as late as 03:15.
Prior trips I had always been able to regularly pull the hottest girls for maximum 1000/2000 + 500-1000 for the house. Any gogo was negotiable before, both barfine and lady rate. Most ever prior trips was 1000 + 2000 LT from Shooters in 2018 (back then they had serious talent) and most recent (right before COVID) and memorable was Pandoras for 400 + 1000 for a jaw dropping schoolgirl.
These are the dreams men live for and what makes a country top class.
I soon soured on the current gogo scene. During Songkran the girls' attitude in general was shit. Not as many to choose from and girls everywhere, except a few token spots, asking way too much. The most egregious was a cute 20 year old non-tattooed girl at Namthip bar asking 4000 THB + 1500 for the house to leave at 02:45 off deep in Soi Bukhao. We had bumped into each other on the street, and I was thankful to finally see an attractive natural young woman during Songkran that was available for a fine. We chatted for a while over a drink via translator. After I offered her 1000 THB for a quick shag, the next question she asked me was, "Do you like children?
I asked her to clarify. She pointed to her much older and fatter sisters. Had the feminist bullshit infected my beloved Thai women? This trip was turning out the worst trip out of roughly two dozen. Before parting ways as she refused to budge from 4000, turning down my very generous 2000 THB offer, I made sure she saw the fat stack of 1000's in my wallet as I was paying. She noticeably perked up, but quickly downplayed her gut reaction with that increasingly-common haughty, "I've got plenty of sponsors" attitude as she scurried off to the back to change clothes to go home. Exchanging LINEs, which worked in the past to soften them up over time, could not crack her mercenary attitude. "4000!" she would only respond.
Old reliable Soi Honey delivered a very decent 20 year old 30 minutes later for 1000 THB + 200 for the house. Wow, the massage partitions had markedly improved! No more cardboard walls and soiled sheets. This was by far the best change to the scene since COVID. I would return several times for BBBJs, a few more CFS, with one nerdy skinny young girl with big fake tits demanding CBJ, which I always oblige but do not prefer.
When not having to work hard during the "day" back home, I would stroll Beach Road to get some cardio and look for diamonds. Some of my best lays and terrifying situations were from the coconut bar. This trip thankfully there were no dangerous experiences, but reflecting the broader economy, the talent was significantly down along with the display of girls, often shying or cowering from the rambunctious stroll of the GoPro / cell phone vortexes of bad vibes calling themselves "vloggers"influencers". These guys need the Mexico / Colombia treatment. Luckily I found a few decent women in their 30's, of whom I would finally visit their preferred short time hotels out of curiosity. The prices for the room with a fan was 200 THB + 1000 for the lady for BBBJ + CFS.
Sometimes with a light massage first. These beds reminded me of the old Soi 6 rooms. Miraculously never got sick, likely due to historical dues.
The second biggest surprise were the amount of fat piggies. Oink. Oink. Had I landed in Angeles City? Looking back at all the old photos confirmed it wasn't less-liver-strained beer goggles of years past inciting the lust a traditional Thai woman invokes. These girls had a lot of time and extra money to sit around and pound rice. If you're into "thick" women you'll be in hog heaven. Do the, formerly "normal", skinny Thai women know they are in smaller supply?
The third surprise were the rates for CFS. I never paid more than 1500 THB this trip, with the mean around 1100 THB to the girl. Most attractive women (all prior trips paying 500 - 1000 THB) wanted 2000-3000 for a short time which is frankly not worth it. Luckily I am not as hungry as I was in my 20's and can go days without busting if needed. The best finds of the trip included a girl at "LOL Lita" bar in Soi Made in Thailand, a brand new lighter skinned, non-tattoed 8/10 who had just turned 20 according to her ID. We played a couple games of pool while having a few drinks, which cost 180 THB for her. Barfines were 800 THB. We negotiated for a while and settled on 1000 THB for CFS or 1500 THB for CFS + BBBJ, an action she was refused to provide during negotiations. Later in the room she would give me a BBBJ before I slowly fucked her very tight pussy in a few positions before busting a huge load. I would leave her with 1000 THB while she gave me a naughty smile saying "Why you not give more?" before lunging for a kiss on the cheek after exchanging LINEs and going to her taxi.
The next best find was on Soi 6 at LUST. A solid 8/10 20 year old nurse on her first week. Huge natural DDs that were as perky as any. Sweet girl with a brain; no tattoos. Settled on 1200 THB + 400 for the house. The most novel event was being punched in the cock after refusing to buy a toy or cookie from someone who should not be out late on Soi 6. The second most novel: a girl offering two shots in a two hour session for 1500 THB on Soi 6. She followed through in earnest.
Most novel new place was a massage brothel right off Walking Street that had full service as low as 1000 THB for 15 minutes of service and attractive girls. I chose the 1500 THB 30 minute package but only needed 15 minutes as the girl was a sweet young girl from Chiang Mai with another very tight pussy. The place had a nice room with clean transparent shower in which the girl was not shy in lathering you up. Not sure what it's named but you can't miss it if you notice small print. I thought their time / tier pricing model was fair and reminded me of European establishments. This could catch on.
There seems to be a large group of bars on Soi 6 which are engaging in near extortion. Minimum drinks, livestreaming, outrageous short time rates, Asian customers only, etc. I think these belonged to a certain notorious wicked group but can't be sure. Easy to avoid after a few queries upfront.
The fourth surprise were the increasing age of the girls available. Thailand apparently has decided to supply gringos with the see-team talent and gringos happily pay multiples of what was asked just a few years ago from the be and A-team talent. What's up with this 20 year old age floor? I had turned away the entire army of women at Champagne, or what's left of it, due to them being so damn ugly and old, a bevy of heavily-tatted, blown-out banshees better fitted for the Nuevo Laredo donkey show, until Mama pulled a very nice girl who turned out to be 19 from the back. Had a drink and chat with her. When asking for the barfine she said 20 was the age limit for a barfine. When she got up to dance, she kept the pair of shorts over her gstring. Lame. What the hell was happening? Is this place America? Will we be able to look at attractive women in another 10 years without legal concern?
Men, we have lost our way. Another topic for another time.
The fifth surprise was, for the first time, I felt completely assured that as the man with the balls and the money, *I* was making the rules and calling the shots completely. It was a combination of rekindling from the successes found among the masses of bad deals, the much cheaper and / or better deals had elsewhere, the lack of desperation due to time and experience, and the resolve to strengthen the fraternity ascribed to all men, regardless of background, who visit Pattaya to experience the options only celebrities (now iffy) and attractive young homosexual men can experience back home. Good pussy is in massive oversupply in Asia, Africa, Eastern Europe, and Latin America. Good money is not, regardless of the front Thai women are increasingly relying on to their detriment.
The sixth surprise were all the new clubs on Walking Street. Wow India represents! Way too loud though. Never entered. Myst is an absolute mosh pit with bad attitudes and no attractive girls that ever wanted to fuck. Insomnia still has decent talent and good vibes. Got an early 30's natural gym girl to fuck for 1000 THB at 03:00 on a weekend. Everywhere else was mostly full of uninspiring girls or girls asking 2000+ for a short time.
The seventh surprise was ThaiFriendly actually working with hot girls. In years past I had used paid versions with nothing but catfish attempts. Always sent them packing with a few baht for taxi. This time every girl was as shown. One girl was coming after her shift at her massage shop. She was a cute 22 year old girl with natural perky the tits. Great English. We talked for about an hour while.
She cleaned my messy condo up. It was so erotic watching her clean and hold her drooping t-shirt with one hand to now show her cleavage in her bra while sweeping the floor and balcony. She was a sensitive, kind girl who had a hobby of adopting stray animals. We eventually consummated our agreement, 1000 THB, after about 90 minutes of cleaning every inch of the place (with me helping) with a standard session. Ended up giving her an extra 500 THB for the cleaning and light massage she gave. She would message many times asking to clean again. In typical Pattaya fashion, I would not meet a second time. Great gal.
I would regularly chat with girls asking 3000+ for ST, prices you could get for similar age / quality if you know where to look in Dubai, among other places. Any medium chosen this trip for good, fairly-priced pussy needed uncomfortably increased effort, a troubling trend.
Have online streaming / chatting services ruined Pattaya? Are foreign simps grossly overpaying for pussy (or worse, attention), no matter how hot and young? Was it the luck of the draw this trip? Are the cameras ruining the vibe? Do men care less for their fellow man?
Nobody likely has all the answers. What I will say is that the desire to revisit Thailand has dropped heavily. Never could have imagined saying this. While not as crazy and licentious as Thailand, there are other countries nearby and in other regions that offer better value for pussy, an understatement for some. I can see a newer definition of short times with increasing pricing offered by more establishments finding middle ground to keep both pounders and providers happy. Short time guys don't use up much time, especially if the quality is high. I could also see girls offering more genuine long massages, cleaning services, and / or cooking to support the prices they are asking.
Attached are some photos of girls I had this visit. This is the lowest quality and worst trip out of many in terms of paid women. I will most likely continue my yearly trips to Europe and, occasionally, Latin America. Asia I'm not sure is worth the hike. Looking at the photos of years past confirms the hottest girls I pulled this trip were the average of prior trips, with much higher quantity and availability at lower prices. I will forever appreciate the lessons learned from visiting this novel land. The world needs the Pattaya of the past.In 2018, I was paying about $50/ girl for amazing service in Colombia. The Pandemic changed everything! Many young men started traveling with their online work. Many cut girls starting making videos and selling them. Girls were leaving Colombia to work in Mexico, Europe, and places for better money. I lost many girls to these countries. Not only that, but the passport bros were coming and dumping money left and right. For them, spending $100-$150 on a girl is cheap while the experienced mongers know better.
2 years ago, I met a sexy ex puta. Initially I bough her content and she finally came for some action. She was very sexy, thin, tall, etc. Her story was that she saw men for a couple of years but during the pandemic, she had to stop because of the restrictions in place of contact so she did online contect selling. She found a boyfriend and him and her starting making videos and selling them online. They made enough money that she did not have to work.
During the pandemic, the US starting printing money and was handing it out like candy. Broke ass fooos were get large checks in the mail and some people were making more on unemployment than working. All of this pumped extra money to the pockets of passport bros. With the western girls tighting their pussies for the local guys and these girls were selling their shit online, the local young men became frustrated and decided to monger.
When I'm on the plane to medellin, I see so many younger men around the age of 25-35 there for a short time and they will drop some money to get some action.
There are more and more videos of people walking with cameras in areas of the working girls. Men in the west see this and they want a piece of it.
Now the going rate is around $100 and it's it's a simple supply and demand. The supply may have gone up a tiny bit and I think the super cut girls sell their content. The deman is very high because of the passport bros. So even the uglies or fatties or both think they are forth a lot of money.
But I think that girls selling content online is changing or at least the demand is. Initially there were few girls doing it then it went to hundreds, and now it's hundreds of thousands of girls. So the competition is fierce. Being super is not cutting it anymore and now the girls must do things that stand out from the rest. With invent of AI porn, these little bitches who sell their content will see a big reduction in their easy earnings.
Welcome to the new earth and I'm also in the same boat as you are my friend. Heading to pattaya in August.
LittleBigMan
07-14-25, 02:17
Yes, that's what I said initially: ONE WAY, and the first class thing was a joke.
Any way, I was only trying to help. No need to convince you, or nobody else about nothing, because "nothing else matters".
Regular fare 2 way from US is around 1500, sometime more, sometime less depends on how lucky you are.
Myself, I only buy one way because I live in SEA, and I don't really know where I'm going to end up next month. Maybe I read about some interesting place, or some add with cheap airfare pops up in my email, or I read about pussy being on sale someplace, that's how I make my plans.Not picking on you I appreciate the comments. But your original post did not come out and say it was One Way, and you noting the airline Starlux on make it seem you double down you are only now clarifying you do one way only but the price noted that is my oversight! You noted a price like 385 another poster indicated it was cheap must be one way there was never a clarification so I proceeded as you noted to check and found the price RT, was more to as you noted now 1300-1500 USD depending on when you travel. Being in the airline industry when I see a price quote to low to believe I do the research since as noted I have standby benefits with near all airlines and my benefits are around 375 USD RT.
For the other poster who said ten more minutes Skyscanner, I checked the lowest I saw and of course dates are important best in baht 24,000 baht RT, not bad, but nothing as noted in the range of Euro 595!
Old And Ugly
07-14-25, 08:10
Not picking on you I appreciate the comments. But your original post did not come out and say it was One Way, and you noting the airline Starlux on make it seem you double down you are only now clarifying you do one way only but the price noted that is my oversight! You noted a price like 385 another poster indicated it was cheap must be one way there was never a clarification so I proceeded as you noted to check and found the price RT, was more to as you noted now 1300-1500 USD depending on when you travel. Being in the airline industry when I see a price quote to low to believe I do the research since as noted I have standby benefits with near all airlines and my benefits are around 375 USD RT.
For the other poster who said ten more minutes Skyscanner, I checked the lowest I saw and of course dates are important best in baht 24,000 baht RT, not bad, but nothing as noted in the range of Euro 595!After Pattaya I had to go for a really short trip to Germany, before returning to PH. The ticket to Germany was dirt cheap, and I had half the airplane to myself. Coming back was a different story, the cost was 4X.
UglyAzzMan
07-15-25, 01:10
In 2018, I was paying about $50/ girl for amazing service in Colombia. The Pandemic changed everything! Many young men started traveling with their online work. Many cut girls starting making videos and selling them. Girls were leaving Colombia to work in Mexico, Europe, and places for better money. I lost many girls to these countries. Not only that, but the passport bros were coming and dumping money left and right. For them, spending $100-$150 on a girl is cheap while the experienced mongers know better.
2 years ago, I met a sexy ex puta. Initially I bough her content and she finally came for some action. She was very sexy, thin, tall, etc. Her story was that she saw men for a couple of years but during the pandemic, she had to stop because of the restrictions in place of contact so she did online contect selling. She found a boyfriend and him and her starting making videos and selling them online. They made enough money that she did not have to work.
During the pandemic, the US starting printing money and was handing it out like candy. Broke ass fooos were get large checks in the mail and some people were making more on unemployment than working. All of this pumped extra money to the pockets of passport bros. With the western girls tighting their pussies for the local guys and these girls were selling their shit online, the local young men became frustrated and decided to monger.
When I'm on the plane to medellin, I see so many younger men around the age of 25-35 there for a short time and they will drop some money to get some action.
There are more and more videos of people walking with cameras in areas of the working girls. Men in the west see this and they want a piece of it.
Now the going rate is around $100 and it's it's a simple supply and demand. The supply may have gone up a tiny bit and I think the super cut girls sell their content. The deman is very high because of the passport bros. So even the uglies or fatties or both think they are forth a lot of money.
But I think that girls selling content online is changing or at least the demand is. Initially there were few girls doing it then it went to hundreds, and now it's hundreds of thousands of girls. So the competition is fierce. Being super is not cutting it anymore and now the girls must do things that stand out from the rest. With invent of AI porn, these little bitches who sell their content will see a big reduction in their easy earnings.
Welcome to the new earth and I'm also in the same boat as you are my friend. Heading to pattaya in August.My understanding is the Passport Bros are Broke.
Unlike the Koreans. Hahaha. Hahaha.
My understanding is the Bros like moo dang type girls.
Unlike the Koreans. Hahaha. Hahaha.
LittleBigMan
07-15-25, 02:19
After Pattaya I had to go for a really short trip to Germany, before returning to PH. The ticket to Germany was dirt cheap, and I had half the airplane to myself. Coming back was a different story, the cost was 4X.Thanks for the information but the fare you are discussing now has no relationship to our prior conversation regarding said destination to and from USA West coast to Bangkok.
Thank you for a great update. Have not been looking at the Thailand forum for a bit and this report prepares me really well for a Jan / Feb trip.
Very unlikely that anything of the past is going to come back, so we have to make do the best we can with the cards dealt with.
Cheers / Pulse.
Recently got back from a few months trip to Thailand arriving before Songkran. Stayed in Pattaya mostly. I have not been back since right before COVID shut everything down and it was quite the shocker to return. Been coming to Thailand since 2014 yearly, sometimes with a few trips per year until the disaster of our current human leadership degraded itself to new depths.
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Nobody likely has all the answers. What I will say is that the desire to revisit Thailand has dropped heavily. Never could have imagined saying this. While not as crazy and licentious as Thailand, there are other countries nearby and in other regions that offer better value for pussy, an understatement for some. I can see a newer definition of short times with increasing pricing offered by more establishments finding middle ground to keep both pounders and providers happy. Short time guys don't use up much time, especially if the quality is high. I could also see girls offering more genuine long massages, cleaning services, and / or cooking to support the prices they are asking.
Attached are some photos of girls I had this visit. This is the lowest quality and worst trip out of many in terms of paid women. I will most likely continue my yearly trips to Europe and, occasionally, Latin America. Asia I'm not sure is worth the hike. Looking at the photos of years past confirms the hottest girls I pulled this trip were the average of prior trips, with much higher quantity and availability at lower prices. I will forever appreciate the lessons learned from visiting this novel land. The world needs the Pattaya of the past.
Old And Ugly
07-15-25, 07:12
Thanks for the information but the fare you are discussing now has no relationship to our prior conversation regarding said destination to and from USA West coast to Bangkok.You are funny, not to say it otherwise. It was a freaking example on how fares can go up and down unexpectedly, sometimes ridiculously low, distance to Europe being approximately the same as to the West coast US, it was just a generalization. Based on your replies, now I understand why you're not finding cheaper fares. Let's end the talk about air travel here, and focus on the main subject: Good luck, and happy mongering to you!
LittleBigMan
07-15-25, 14:03
You are funny, not to say it otherwise. It was a freaking example on how fares can go up and down unexpectedly, sometimes ridiculously low, distance to Europe being approximately the same as to the West coast US, it was just a generalization. Based on your replies, now I understand why you're not finding cheaper fares. Let's end the talk about air travel here, and focus on the main subject: Good luck, and happy mongering to you!Agree! For your own sake let's move on conversation becoming old and ugly.
Usually I don't go to agogo's because they are too damn expensive. I go 3 times a year to Pattaya and check everything out.
Beach road (1000-1500).
Ibar 2000ST.
Soi Honey Up to You massage 1 300ST (Kim!
Freelancers etc.
The price difference is strange. In Shark I took out nr 961 (spinner, small body, nice tattoos.) for a great session. But 3 000 barfine for ST of 2 hours, and 4 000 for the lady.
She was well worth it.
Could anybody check if she is still there? Or. Check if she is still good?) I know 7 000 is probably too much.
I go back in August 10 for 3 weeks.
People who want to meet up, are welcome. I always go by myself and could use a wise wingman sometimes to prevent me to fall in love.
OK so I have traveled many places in the world for decades but never to Thailand, about 10 years ago got only as close as the Philippines.
Now for the past almost 15 years living in Colombia and have played in every city and pueblo in Colombia both non-pro, freelancers and pros, I don't discriminate LOL, and I love Latin women especially Colombian chicas.
But out of curiosity I have read through a few pages on this forum and see the photos, the prices, the various venues and have drawn some conclusions namely:
1. The going rate is roughly 3000 BHT (Which is roughly $90 USD and here in Medellin I typically pay 130,000 Colombian pesos for a beautiful fresh and young gal with great attitude and girl friends sex to boot, now 130,000 pesos is about $35. USD.
2. The heat in Thailand is a turn off, I have partied in the Phillipines, the DR, Havana Cuba and all through Mexico and frankly the heat / humidity is no fun, unlike the weather we have in Medellin as it is always Spring here.
3. I just checked the airfare from Medellin Colombia to Thailand and you have to travel through the USA so the times to fly is about 2 days plus, no good then THE COST is ridiculous as I see the cost for RT as about $2,800 USD! Crazy. (I am curios as to what you are paying for a RT flight from a US city?
4. I have read and watched on YouTube that in Pattaya especially it is being overrun by Indians, is this true?
So all in all I just answered my own curiosity and questions, it is a no go for me to travel to Thailand.
I can fly RT from Medellin to the DR or Havana Cuba for about $335 USD and the flight is a few hours and not a few days.
Be safe all!
TTM.Funny that I was on the fence about an Asian trip and was thinking maybe I should just do a trip to MDE instead. It's a short flight from southern Florida, I haven't been there, and I speak fairly decent Spanish. I have done a few trips to Cartagena and the heat there is even worse than in Florida. In the end I was going out to the west coast for another reason and figured I might as well keep going.
I am over 70, and I am beyond traveling just for cheap pussy. Although I will indulge extensively. At my age I don't believe in going or staying anywhere I don't want to be. I will enjoy the women in Bangkok and Pattaya until I am totally worn out. But I will also enjoy the food, the sights, the people, the temples, the markets, and just being somewhere completely different. I will get to MDE and the beautiful Colombian women, but there are things I want to see and I don't know how much longer I will be able to (or want to) make this kind of trip.
It's funny that the comparison to MDE has come up here, because as I was reading that forum I saw all the same complaints about how things have been ruined by (passport bros or insert group name), how the market has been ruined, and how the city isn't the same as it was (insert number of years) ago. Moreso in the Cartagena forum, and don't even look at the Sosua / DR forums. The fact is that everywhere is worse than it used to be. Unfortunately, we can't go somewhere 10 years ago; we can only go somewhere now.
As one more thought, IMO there is a difference between going somewhere for "sex" and "sex tourism". Sometimes the whole experience is more important than just the quality and price of the sex. I am sorely lacking in experience with Asian women, and I want to correct that oversight. I also want to experience Soi 6 and Nana Plaza and a blowjob bar and Thai massage parlors and Thermae and everything else. The entire experience is much more than the time it takes to bust a nut or two.
Anyway, first trip upcoming and I plan to be in Pattaya for a few days Aug 19-22. DMs are open if anyone wants me to buy them a drink or two while I am there. Tall Man, DM you when I make that MDE trip.
J.
The fact is that everywhere is worse than it used to be. Unfortunately, we can't go somewhere 10 years ago; we can only go somewhere now.
J.The complaints that things aren't the same as decades ago have infected all the forums. My reply remains the same in that, while times have changed, if guys put the same effort in, then the same results are available. Now guys are expecting discount airfares, direct transit busses and 5 star accomodation. Decades ago cheap pussy came with an epic adventure just to get there, the most basic of accomodation and often warm beers.
To add to the MDE comparisons, while guys are complaining about $200 girls in Manila, I've just come off two months in the provinces where standard rates were P2000/$35 for as long as I wanted her, typically late afternoon to mid morning. I posted comments that I was actually pleasantly surprised by the uptick in looks and performance vs previous visits. I'm sure that the same is available in LOS or <<insert preferred destination>>. Just not on Walking St or Nana Plaza.
Apologies for the rant.
Enjoy. G.
Mr Enternational
07-16-25, 05:55
People who want to meet up, are welcome. I always go by myself and could use a wise wingman sometimes to prevent me to fall in love.Falling in love is the fun part.
MongerHunger
07-16-25, 08:07
The complaints that things aren't the same as decades ago have infected all the forums. My reply remains the same in that, while times have changed, if guys put the same effort in, then the same results are available. Now guys are expecting discount airfares, direct transit busses and 5 star accomodation. Decades ago cheap pussy came with an epic adventure just to get there, the most basic of accomodation and often warm beers.
To add to the MDE comparisons, while guys are complaining about $200 girls in Manila, I've just come off two months in the provinces where standard rates were P2000/$35 for as long as I wanted her, typically late afternoon to mid morning. I posted comments that I was actually pleasantly surprised by the uptick in looks and performance vs previous visits. I'm sure that the same is available in LOS or <<insert preferred destination>>. Just not on Walking St or Nana Plaza.
Apologies for the rant.
Enjoy. G.The same guys complaining are also the same guys that are afraid to go anywhere they don't see any other foreigners or they say they want a travel companion, a Wingman, a drinking buddy, etc. I like rolling solo. All I have to worry about is just "Me".
To add to the MDE comparisons, while guys are complaining about $200 girls in Manila, I've just come off two months in the provinces where standard rates were P2000/$35 for as long as I wanted her, typically late afternoon to mid morning. I posted comments that I was actually pleasantly surprised by the uptick in looks and performance vs previous visits. I'm sure that the same is available in LOS or <<insert preferred destination>>. Just not on Walking St or Nana Plaza.We need to have a bit of self-awareness LOL. Most Thailand visitors aren't spending two months in the provinces of the Philippines. I lived in southern Africa half a century ago more or less, and I would buy a bar girl a couple of drinks, take her home to a place nicer than wherever she was staying, and give her "cab fare" in the morning knowing damn well that she was walking. I wasn't a tourist (not that there were many) and I didn't get tourist pricing. That was then; this is now.
When I visit I am going to a country I have never been to before, where I speak exactly zero of the local language, and where I am following in the footsteps of tens of thousands of other visitors in the same situation. Why the hell should I expect "local pricing"? Why would I expect things to be the way they were 10 years ago? Hell, if things were the way they were 10 years ago I wouldn't be leaving southern Florida, because no market has gone to hell the way this place has.
If I am traveling somewhere I expect to familiarize myself with pricing in the local market. Not what I would pay if I lived there; what pricing is for tourists. Because I AM a tourist. I expect to do my research so I know what outlets are available, and which are most likely to meet my needs (brothel, agency, independent, massage parlor, etc.). Once I have done my part I expect to have as good a time as possible within those parameters. What I DON'T expect is to get ripped off because I compare everything to prices at home, or to throw money around because everything seems so cheap. There are going to be those who have been in the local market who resent newcomers and want things to be the way they were. Sorry. There is a difference between prices increasing due to supply and demand, and people "ruining the market" by overpaying.
Pretty sure I will be able to have a good time with those expectations.
LittleBigMan
07-17-25, 09:16
Usually I don't go to agogo's because they are too damn expensive. I go 3 times a year to Pattaya and check everything out.
Beach road (1000-1500).
Ibar 2000ST.
Soi Honey Up to You massage 1 300ST (Kim!
Freelancers etc.
The price difference is strange. In Shark I took out nr 961 (spinner, small body, nice tattoos.) for a great session. But 3 000 barfine for ST of 2 hours, and 4 000 for the lady.
She was well worth it.
Could anybody check if she is still there? Or. Check if she is still good?) I know 7 000 is probably too much.
I go back in August 10 for 3 weeks.
People who want to meet up, are welcome. I always go by myself and could use a wise wingman sometimes to prevent me to fall in love.What you pay is up to you, but when were you in town last that BF at Shark was 3000 baht.
CaliTraveler
07-17-25, 09:41
We need to have a bit of self-awareness LOL. Most Thailand visitors aren't spending two months in the provinces of the Philippines. I lived in southern Africa half a century ago more or less, and I would buy a bar girl a couple of drinks, take her home to a place nicer than wherever she was staying, and give her "cab fare" in the morning knowing damn well that she was walking. I wasn't a tourist (not that there were many) and I didn't get tourist pricing. That was then; this is now.
When I visit I am going to a country I have never been to before, where I speak exactly zero of the local language, and where I am following in the footsteps of tens of thousands of other visitors in the same situation. Why the hell should I expect "local pricing"? Why would I expect things to be the way they were 10 years ago? Hell, if things were the way they were 10 years ago I wouldn't be leaving southern Florida, because no market has gone to hell the way this place has..Why not trying to get dirty cheap deals if you're able to, not everyone is wealthy stock owner that has money flowing to his bank account based on the Wall Street affairs, most of us are just working class people who work for a year in our places of residence (I am originally from Balkans area but I live in California and NYC for the past 30 years), I work menial jobs like construction and moving throughout the year and then maybe once every two years I am able to afford a trip to Colombia or Philippines and sure as hell I fly into Manila but immediately hop on the bus to AC to get those provincial fun rates as opposed to be looked upon as rich American in Manila which I'm definitely not. Last time I was in San Jose, Costa Rica, the one hour prices at the popular hotel (I forgot the name of it) were about $150 per hour, but thank to the local guides that are standing outside the hotel, they took me literally around the corner where those short term places were, it's like bunch of bars with room in the back, the same thing was like $30 for 20 or 30 minutes, amazing talent. So, it's always good to look for the best opportunity to get more bang for your buck unless money is not an object, which I assume for most of us here that's not the case.
LittleBigMan
07-17-25, 10:49
What you pay is up to you, but when were you in town last that BF at Shark was 3000 baht.Correction I just heard from my source you must have gotten a discount? The 9 you pick was the highest currently it is 3500.
Why not trying to get dirty cheap deals if you're able to, not everyone is wealthy stock owner that has money flowing to his bank account based on the Wall Street affairs, most of us are just working class people who work for a year in our places of residence (I am originally from Balkans area but I live in California and NYC for the past 30 years), I work menial jobs like construction and moving throughout the year and then maybe once every two years I am able to afford a trip to Colombia or Philippines and sure as hell I fly into Manila but immediately hop on the bus to AC to get those provincial fun rates as opposed to be looked upon as rich American in Manila which I'm definitely not. Last time I was in San Jose, Costa Rica, the one hour prices at the popular hotel (I forgot the name of it) were about $150 per hour, but thank to the local guides that are standing outside the hotel, they took me literally around the corner where those short term places were, it's like bunch of bars with room in the back, the same thing was like $30 for 20 or 30 minutes, amazing talent. So, it's always good to look for the best opportunity to get more bang for your buck unless money is not an object, which I assume for most of us here that's not the case.I can get in my car and find a streetwalker to give me a blowjob for $40 here, or I can book an escort for $400 (or $1000). Maybe the streetwalker even gives a better blowjob than the $400 escort. You take your choice, but don't try to get the $400 escort to give you a blowjob for $40, and don't pay the streetwalker $200 and think it's a good deal because the escort would have been $400. That is all I am saying.
Know the local pricing so you know what the right price range is and you aren't comparing prices to what you would pay back home, or in the provinces, or anywhere else. Also, don't expect the same deal you would get if you actually were a local, spoke the language, and were part of the community. Good idea going to AC instead of Manila if the local prices are better there, but don't go to Manila and then complain that you paid less in the provinces. That's all.
Have fun!!
People who want to meet up, are welcome. I always go by myself and could use a wise wingman sometimes to prevent me to fall in love.I will be there Aug 19-22. I would enjoy meeting but you don't have Private Messages enabled. You have to pay a modest amount, but not too much for a guy who pays 7000 for ST LOL.
Anyone else who is around, I will buy the first round (at least).
I will be there Aug 19-22. I would enjoy meeting but you don't have Private Messages enabled. You have to pay a modest amount, but not too much for a guy who pays 7000 for ST LOL.
Anyone else who is around, I will buy the first round (at least).I see you have to pay with bitcoin, so I did not try to do it. Is there another possibility?
What you pay is up to you, but when were you in town last that BF at Shark was 3000 baht.I was there last year in October and this year in April.
2 friends of minework there, they charge it and get it. Mostly Japanese, Korean and US customers.
Pimpampoumpipo
07-20-25, 14:24
Falling in love is the fun part.Regarding my own experiences, it's fun at first. Then, it became hell sooner or later.
Regarding my own experiences, it's fun at first. Then, it became hell sooner or later.That's why we are all here.
I see you have to pay with bitcoin, so I did not try to do it. Is there another possibility?Sending USD cash sounds risky AF but it does work.
Instructions and addresses are in the New Subscription page.
G.
LittleBigMan
07-21-25, 04:26
I was there last year in October and this year in April.
2 friends of minework there, they charge it and get it. Mostly Japanese, Korean and US customers.I was there early December, my cousin BF a girl he new way back now was a waitress there her BF was 2000, and even a waitress was asking 4000ST, as noted recently I checked with another who I've know for a long time about the BF as you noted 3600 baht she noted there are like 4 levels of BF depending on the girls numbers lowest and starting is 2000 baht, girls number starting with 9 is the highest at 3600 baht.
A little help.
I am returning to Pattaya after a 10-year hiatus. I have been going there since 1978 on a regular basis.
But after 10 years, I have a few questions:
I have always went to the dark and raunchiest clubs, like X-Zone. Do some of those clubs still exist?
Blow job bars and dart show place; where?
My favorite Gentlemen's Club was Kinnaree Place; any place better.
And yes, I RTFF forums.
For years, I depended on posts from LittleBigMan, Mr E. , and Horse Trader.
Anyone, please chime in with your thoughts.
Tijuana.
HorseTrader
07-21-25, 06:44
For years, I depended on posts from LittleBigMan, Mr E. , and Horse Trader.
That's funny because for years I relied on your posts of Tijuana. Once I made a Tijuana post about a squirter from Hong Kong and the next post was you providing a picture of soaked bedding, perhaps from your encounter with the same girl.
I'm no expert on Pattaya, but I can fill you in regarding BKK, Chiang Mai, Samui, and some other places. For Pattaya, I recommend MrE and LBM who have proven reliable and accurate.
My only strong recommendation is to get a premium membership to ThaiFriendly. For those times when you can't find what you want in bars, clubs, massage places, or streets, ThaiFriendly can get a doable girl to your room within about an hour. It's also great for those days when you are just too lazy to go out and scout yourself.
Blow job bars; where? I have always been a fan of Telephone Bar, Soi 2 South Pattaya Road. They have a facebook page too. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100051592045486.
A little help.There is an entire User Blog Covering Pattaya Gentleman's Clubs along with venues where it is possible to get your dick sucked as a separately priced service. I rely on my own information as I have not found another poster up in dis ***** that contributes as much on the subject as I do.
Note, Cat Flaps is temporally closed due to a recent fire and is still under renovation.
Hunny Lounge Gentlemans Club.
Services and Pricing.
Drinks: I paid 240* for a Lady Drink and a Chang Beer.
Facilities: Curtin Around Booth = 250; Room Upstairs 350.
Services: Dick Suck = 500; Boom Boom = 1500.
*All pricing in Thai Baht.Always enjoyed your extensive and detailed trip reports everyplace you have posted them!
InsolentSpike
07-21-25, 10:00
I came to Pattaya fresh off of my Jakarta Trip June 2025 (Report was posted).
Pattaya was on my radar for as long as I can remember.
Finally in late 2019 I made arrangement to visit the following summer.
We all know what happened that fateful summer.
Five years later and I finally made the plunge.
I have to give credit to my good friend Gabacho (he went summer 2024).
Guided by Gabacho, I stayed in North Pattaya on Soi 4.
July 1 I flew from Jakarta to Singapore then to Bangkok.
Due to a plane delay, I did not make the last bus and had to use Grab.
The Grab at 1 am was 1600 baht.
As I got closer to Pattaya I couldn't believe it when beach road appeared.
I remember watching videos of beach road as a kid LOL.
Gabacho guided me on lady prices and that helped me out immensely.
By staying in the North, I was close to any area that I needed.
Background Information:
I am a dark skinned Mexican American.
Have mongered in Germany, Tijuana, Medellin, Jakarta, Sosua.
While in Pattaya I exclusively used Thai Friendly.
Almost every single girl that came to my apartment was surprised by:
1. That I was staying alone LOL.
2. That I could pass off as Thai (I feel this might have helped).
I spent time with more than 20 lovely ladies off of Thai friendly.
All of them were 1200 for short time and at least half asked to repeat.
Girls that countered a higher fare were told no thanks.
My very first girl was a cute 20 year old who hopped on me raw LOL.
Let's just say I lasted about a solid 5-6 thrusts LOL.
In all, I had a great time in Pattaya. My 2020 trip was finally realized.
For food, I shopped at Big see Central Marina and the SoHo Crispy Pork Vendors.
I have to give credit to my good friend Gabacho (he went summer 2024). Guided by Gabacho, I stayed in North Pattaya on Soi 4.
July 1 I flew from Jakarta to Singapore then to Bangkok. Due to a plane delay, I did not make the last bus and had to use Grab. The Grab at 1 am was 1600 baht. As I got closer to Pattaya I couldn't believe it when beach road appeared. I remember watching videos of beach road as a kid LOL. Gabacho guided me on lady prices and that helped me out immensely. By staying in the North, I was close to any area that I needed.
Background Information:
I am a dark skinned Mexican American. Have mongered in Germany, Tijuana, Medellin, Jakarta, Sosua. While in Pattaya I exclusively used Thai Friendly.
Almost every single girl that came to my apartment was surprised by: 1. That I was staying alone LOL. 2. That I could pass off as Thai (I feel this might have helped).
I spent time with more than 20 lovely ladies off of Thai friendly. All of them were 1200 for short time and at least half asked to repeat.Thank you for the very detailed and informative trip report InsolentSpike.
Respect!
I came to Pattaya fresh off of my Jakarta Trip June 2025 (Report was posted).
Pattaya was on my radar for as long as I can remember.
Finally in late 2019 I made arrangement to visit the following summer.
We all know what happened that fateful summer.
Five years later and I finally made the plunge.
I have to give credit to my good friend Gabacho (he went summer 2024).
Guided by Gabacho, I stayed in North Pattaya on Soi 4.
July 1 I flew from Jakarta to Singapore then to Bangkok.
Due to a plane delay, I did not make the last bus and had to use Grab.
The Grab at 1 am was 1600 baht.
As I got closer to Pattaya I couldn't believe it when beach road appeared.
I remember watching videos of beach road as a kid LOL.
Gabacho guided me on lady prices and that helped me out immensely.
By staying in the North, I was close to any area that I needed.
Background Information:
I am a dark skinned Mexican American.
Have mongered in Germany, Tijuana, Medellin, Jakarta, Sosua.
While in Pattaya I exclusively used Thai Friendly.
Almost every single girl that came to my apartment was surprised by:
1. That I was staying alone LOL.
2. That I could pass off as Thai (I feel this might have helped).
I spent time with more than 20 lovely ladies off of Thai friendly.
All of them were 1200 for short time and at least half asked to repeat.
Girls that countered a higher fare were told no thanks.
My very first girl was a cute 20 year old who hopped on me raw LOL.
Let's just say I lasted about a solid 5-6 thrusts LOL.
In all, I had a great time in Pattaya. My 2020 trip was finally realized.
For food, I shopped at Big see Central Marina and the SoHo Crispy Pork Vendors.I have used Thai friendly in the past but when I have video called the girls, they were ugly. Their images were very pretty. So question #1, how did their online photos compared to their real selves?
Number #2 question, were most of the girls straight working girls or part timbers?
I'm heading to Pattaya in August and got a hotel on beach road for the main purpose of picking up girls from the straight. I like to see them in person and talk with them before I decide to take them for a short time. These days, I can only do one at night so if the girl is terrible, I wasted my night.
Sounds like you have a good trip.
There is an entire User Blog Covering Pattaya Gentleman's Clubs along with venues where it is possible to get your dick sucked as a separately priced service. I rely on my own information as I have not found another poster up in dis ***** that contributes as much on the subject as I do.
Note, Cat Flaps is temporally closed due to a recent fire and is still under renovation.
Always enjoyed your extensive and detailed trip reports everyplace you have posted them! Yes, I do RTFF.
I appreciate you spending a lot of time and providing useful information on your reports.
Cap Flaps. Noted.
I have always been a fan of Telephone Bar, Soi 2 South Pattaya Road. They have a facebook page too. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100051592045486.Thanks for the information.
That's funny because for years I relied on your posts of Tijuana. Once I made a Tijuana post about a squirter from Hong Kong and the next post was you providing a picture of soaked bedding, perhaps from your encounter with the same girl.
I'm no expert on Pattaya, but I can fill you in regarding BKK, Chiang Mai, Samui, and some other places. For Pattaya, I recommend MrE and LBM who have proven reliable and accurate.
Thanks for jarring my memory on the squirter; that was funny. Also thanks for the ThaiFriendly recommendation.
LittleBigMan
07-22-25, 02:43
A little help.
I am returning to Pattaya after a 10-year hiatus. I have been going there since 1978 on a regular basis.
But after 10 years, I have a few questions:
I have always went to the dark and raunchiest clubs, like X-Zone. Do some of those clubs still exist?
Blow job bars and dart show place; where?
My favorite Gentlemen's Club was Kinnaree Place; any place better.
And yes, I RTFF forums.
For years, I depended on posts from LittleBigMan, Mr E. , and Horse Trader.
Anyone, please chime in with your thoughts.
Tijuana.Sadly, X-Zone is gone so is the other clubs on Soi 15, even the seafood restaurant across is gone. Pretty much from Baccarra on down majority are Indian clubs.
As for Kinnaree, it is still there and in my opinion still the best for me although my last visit being low season the picking was really low in numbers even for a Saturday when Pork ribs and Brisket is on the menu. In high season I found the last Saturday of the month has the greatest choices since many Freelancers that normally don't come during the month do to get rent money creating alot more choices. Food now I think 499 but if you spend more than 1100 baht the meal is free, rooms are 350 and ST is now 1500 baht.
As for ping pong shows I've long been out of touch see one seen them all! But on W. S. Outside Soi Diamond there are bunch pushing for the sex shows but don't venture into the Russia clubs. You might give places like Windmill, LK Metro, Kinks, Soi Boomerrang, you got places like Heaven Above, bunch of GC on this Soi, you got on Soi Lengkee, near the corner of 3rd road, La Post kind of like Telephone, Soi Pothole which is now paved the Soi known close to Soi Exite, is like the new Soi 6, lots of GC, like Maggie Mays, mentioned a lot here, another OXO?
Good luck,
Explorer8939
07-22-25, 04:47
I came to Pattaya fresh off of my Jakarta Trip June 2025 (Report was posted).
Pattaya was on my radar for as long as I can remember.
Finally in late 2019 I made arrangement to visit the following summer.
We all know what happened that fateful summer.
Five years later and I finally made the plunge.
I have to give credit to my good friend Gabacho (he went summer 2024).
Guided by Gabacho, I stayed in North Pattaya on Soi 4.
July 1 I flew from Jakarta to Singapore then to Bangkok.
Due to a plane delay, I did not make the last bus and had to use Grab.
The Grab at 1 am was 1600 baht.
As I got closer to Pattaya I couldn't believe it when beach road appeared.
I remember watching videos of beach road as a kid LOL.
Gabacho guided me on lady prices and that helped me out immensely.
By staying in the North, I was close to any area that I needed..Nothing like Hong Kong bar in Pattaya. Plus the Mexican food is lacking in taste.
Explorer8939
07-22-25, 07:05
Pattaya is very crowded now, but most bars have few customers.
Pattaya is crowded due to Thai population growth, lots of people moving from Isaan to Pattaya. And there are mass numbers of Indian tourists.
But few Westerners, which is bad for the ladies.
InsolentSpike
07-22-25, 08:06
Thank you for the very detailed and informative trip report InsolentSpike.
Respect!Thank YOU to the Legend SubCmdr!
InsolentSpike
07-22-25, 08:15
So question #1, how did their online photos compared to their real selves?
Number #2 question, were most of the girls straight working girls or part timbers?
1. Great Question. Almost all the girls looked exactly like their photos BUT one did show up and was clearly about 20 lbs heavier LOL I still had a session with her but I definitely felt catfished LOL.
2. It was mostly clear working girls. Some from bars and others that freelance exclusively. I did have one or two who claimed to work off of Thai Friendly only once or twice a week.
I am also a one girl a day now as I am getting older so I understand your concern. Thankfully I was always able to find a backup girl in case. I still went with the clearly heavier girl but if it was 50lbs or more than I likely would have sent her packing lol
Agogos
Windmill and KINK.
Getting my dick sucked
Daytime: Honey Lounge; Afternoon: Club Excite; Night: Lips Lounge.
Gentlemans Clubs
Heaven Above; Club Fate; Kinnaree; Cat Flaps (closed); Kings Club; Babylon Lounge; Voodoo Club; Play Girls; Red Hot Blue;.
Locations
Soi Honey; LK Metro; Soi Boomerrang (and the street right next to it has bars with hot girls in them); Soi Pothole; Not my style, but don't sleep on the Soi Bong Koch (13 different GCs).
To have a drink
The Cocktail Car (AKA The Bus Bar) at the corner of Tree Town and Soi Buakhao.
Not an exhaustive list!
Plus the Mexican food is lacking in taste.I like the taco stand in the food court next to the Bus Bar AKA The Cocktail Car. There is also Mike's Mexican. Good food but expensive. Only worth it to me when I just have to have my Mexican fix. I find many of Italian Restaurants to be lacking. I can cook a better Italian meal than most just buy watching the Chef Videos on YouTube. There is one that is excellent Frankie's Inn but you are not going to get out of there for less than 1000 for a bowl of pasta and a salad.
In my opinion, If you really want good food Cockbang is the spot. The restaurants are on a completely different level up in that *****. But you better have a stack and be ready to spend it!
Agogos
Windmill and KINK.
Getting my dick sucked
Daytime: Honey Lounge; Afternoon: Club Excite; Night: Lips Lounge.
Gentlemans Clubs
Heaven Above; Club Fate; Kinnaree; Cat Flaps (closed); Kings Club; Babylon Lounge; Voodoo Club; Play Girls; Red Hot Blue;.
Locations
Soi Honey; LK Metro; Soi Boomerrang (and the street right next to it has bars with hot girls in them); Soi Pothole; Not my style, but don't sleep on the Soi Bong Koch (13 different GCs).
To have a drink
The Cocktail Car (AKA The Bus Bar) at the corner of Tree Town and Soi Buakhao.
Not an exhaustive list!I think this pretty much covers my needs for a 3-day visit! Thank yoiu!!
Axel Heyst
07-22-25, 22:59
Not even close Jay, Go Go-wise because Pattaya has some outstanding Go Go's filled with lots of really attractive, young, girls. And they don't come cheap!
Windmill and KINK are bawdy alright and far lewder than anything I have seen in Whiskeria 4 x4 in Rio which is a very bawdy bordello, but the quality of Windmill / Kink girls is simply atrocious. Meaning, I have never seen one fuck worthy girl in either place! But I guess everybody has their own idea of what beauty is and probably more importantly, everybody has a different limit on personal spending.
So, check out Windmill at some point in your trip, just for a laugh and to say you were there, then head over to places like Pin Up, XS, and Palace where the prettiest girls in Pat Go Go's work. The difference in quality is mind blowing. Your welcome,
A. H.
I think this pretty much covers my needs for a 3-day visit! Thank yoiu!!I did not know BJ bars still existed in Pattaya. Thank you for the advice.
Regarding my own experiences, it's fun at first. Then, it became hell sooner or later.Exactly my point. Never again. Did it twice. Disaster. Hell.
KrumeLurer
07-23-25, 20:44
So inflation means a general priceincrease because of an expansion of the money supply. People belive prices in Pattaya has risen because of inflation. I had an interestng conversation with a soi 6 girl that I want to share with you. I found her on twitter. She is an average looker in Repent bar that asks 900 online form thai customers.
Old And Ugly
07-23-25, 23:10
So inflation means a general priceincrease because of an expansion of the money supply. People belive prices in Pattaya has risen because of inflation. I had an interestng conversation with a soi 6 girl that I want to share with you. I found her on twitter. She is an average looker in Repent bar that asks 900 online form thai customers.I didn't understand nothing from the conversation. What's the lesson to be learned here? You wanted to pay 1K, and she wanted 2k. So?
I didn't understand nothing from the conversation. What's the lesson to be learned here? You wanted to pay 1K, and she wanted 2k. So?Not understanding. Nothing means you actually understood everything. If you understood nothing, that means you didn't understand but with the negative of that it means you understood everything.
Mr Enternational
07-24-25, 00:50
Nothing like Hong Kong bar in Pattaya. Plus the Mexican food is lacking in taste.Then you have not been to Taco Taco on Pattaya Klang Soi 9 or Taco Tuesdays at Tigglebitties.
LittleBigMan
07-24-25, 02:33
I like the taco stand in the food court next to the Bus Bar AKA The Cocktail Car. There is also Mike's Mexican. Good food but expensive. Only worth it to me when I just have to have my Mexican fix. I find many of Italian Restaurants to be lacking. I can cook a better Italian meal than most just buy watching the Chef Videos on YouTube. There is one that is excellent Frankie's Inn but you are not going to get out of there for less than 1000 for a bowl of pasta and a salad.
In my opinion, If you really want good food Cockbang is the spot. The restaurants are on a completely different level up in that *****. But you better have a stack and be ready to spend it!Mexican food is tough to come by here but like most things depends on what one grew up eating? Mike is good, I in the past though Tequila Reef Soi 7, was good, my first Taco was at Taco Bell, although I've been to lots of good home cooking Mexican places back home here in Pattaya, I still hit Taco Bell once a month.
I also grew up on Italian food, tough to find a good pizza to my liking what I grew up on back home. Bella's on 2nd road, across from Soi 6, not bad pass on pizza, Yes, I think Frankie In, Jomtien 2nd Road not bad, lasagna good, pizza was so so depending on choice.
Old And Ugly
07-24-25, 07:47
Not understanding. Nothing means you actually understood everything. If you understood nothing, that means you didn't understand but with the negative of that it means you understood everything.Sorry for the semantics, but other uneducated people like myself probably understood the popular meaning of the phrase.
I will be more careful in the future to be grammatically correct and double check everything before posting in the pussy dedicated section of the web. Who knows? One day my writings may get me a Pulitzer award.
Explorer8939
07-24-25, 11:52
Mexican food is tough to come by here but like most things depends on what one grew up eating? Mike is good, I in the past though Tequila Reef Soi 7, was good, my first Taco was at Taco Bell, although I've been to lots of good home cooking Mexican places back home here in Pattaya, I still hit Taco Bell once a month.
I also grew up on Italian food, tough to find a good pizza to my liking what I grew up on back home. Bella's on 2nd road, across from Soi 6, not bad pass on pizza, Yes, I think Frankie In, Jomtien 2nd Road not bad, lasagna good, pizza was so so depending on choice.I used to hit the beer bars on Soi 7, and take a break in the late afternoon for a meal at Tequila Reef. The food was great, looked like Mexican food, tasted like something else.
I think I stayed at Flipper House, and brought ST ladies there. Or was it Flipper Lodge?
So inflation means a general priceincrease because of an expansion of the money supply. People belive prices in Pattaya has risen because of inflation. I had an interestng conversation with a soi 6 girl that I want to share with you. I found her on twitter. She is an average looker in Repent bar that asks 900 online form thai customers.Really not much of a "conversation" LOL.
I posted this in the Cartagena forum about local prices from a Colombian review board. For reference, 4000 COP = $1. Based on recent posts girls are asking and getting 500 K COP for gringo prices. If you want to get local Thai prices, next life be reincarnated as a Thai.
There is at least one Colombian review board (doncolombia dot com) that may be useful in verifying girls and getting info on prices, performance, and services. Since the subject of local vs. Gringo pricing has been frequently discussed, here are local prices from a few reviews.
Zarem - 130 K / HR; 60 K / qv Hotel Darling, which is apparently infamous to locals.
Sofia - 70 K / hh Hotel Arizona, also outside of tourist areas.
Giselle - 70 K / qv BBW, also Hotel Arizona.
Sara / Kamila - 150 K / HR with anal (hard and deep, per review) Area described as "not unsafe, but not a place you would leave your car for long).
Karola - 400 K / overnight Outcall.
All referenced mileroticos ads except for Karola, who was on Skokka. I'm not suggesting these are girls any of us would choose, but it gives you an idea of what the locals are getting and where they are going.
I read some posts on the forum a week or so ago about TB in Thailand, I'm chipping in today with my experience but can't find the original posts so can't link to any of them.
Anyway, I was living in Pattaya in the late 80's/early 90's, and caught TB. I had been living in Thailand for a few years, the first year in Bkk before moving down to Pattaya. I went to bed one night without a care in the world but woke up in the early hours with breathing difficulties. It was a strange sensation. I could breathe in but only up to about half my lung capacity. As hard as I tried, I could not get more than half-way. I didn't have a cough or fever, and had no pain, but thought it would be a good idea to get to a hospital.
My then-partner drove us to the hospital, and when she explained the problem to the nurses I was put in a wheelchair and given oxygen by way of a mask which was connected to a small oxygen tank at the back of the wheelchair. Within seconds I was able to take a deep, deep breath, and fill my lungs to capacity. I almost had an orgasm!! On the 15 or so minute journey to the hospital, I really thought that my time was up and wondered if I might even make it to the hospital.
After some tests they diagnosed TB and I was given an injection(s) (I can't remember how many) and put on a course of antibiotics and I ended up spending 3 or 4 nights in the hospital. My partner was also tested for TB but the results were negative. When I was released I was given more medication to take, daily, from memory it was for about 6 months.Excellent post. Sadly most TB in Thailand and Philippines are undiagnosed and untreated resulting into a severe illness. I have lost a good friend due to undiagnosed TB until it was too late. Get tested often.
Is October a good time to visit pattaya for action? Is it the end of the rainy season and can we expect many more girls walking the streets? Please advise. If Oct. Is not the right time I can come in Nov too.
Explorer8939
07-25-25, 01:59
Is October a good time to visit pattaya for action? Is it the end of the rainy season and can we expect many more girls walking the streets? Please advise. If Oct. Is not the right time I can come in Nov too.November is already High Season, so October is better.
Mr Enternational
07-25-25, 10:09
I used to hit the beer bars on Soi 7, and take a break in the late afternoon for a meal at Tequila Reef. The food was great, looked like Mexican food, tasted like something else.I ate at the original Tequila Reef here in the Philippines yesterday. I had a taco salad. Seems they pour vegetable soup on top of their taco salads. I had never had one with green beans, potatoes, and cubed carrots before.
Is October a good time to visit pattaya for action? Is it the end of the rainy season and can we expect many more girls walking the streets? Please advise. If Oct. Is not the right time I can come in Nov too.It can be more rainy in October than November.
Prices will be already up in November, particularly accomodations prices.
The quantity of girls will be pretty much the same.
Personnaly I much prefer October.
I ate at the original Tequila Reef here in the Philippines yesterday. I stopped in there a couple of times last year, but only for the huge margaritas.
LittleBigMan
07-26-25, 02:17
I stopped in there a couple of times last year, but only for the huge margaritas.I believe the father owned and ran the one on Soi 7, prior to his death. When that happened the son from the Phili came to run it for a while, I remember one evening there were problems the long time cook, got pissed and left. I got all the rumor details from a long time waitress working there.
After like two years I was notified that it was closing, moving to new location up from Big see extra, in a small mall off Pattaya Klang, for me that was a death sentence. The waitress said the rent was like 250,000 be a month the key money was like 1-2 million baht. I thought that is a lot of F tacos one got to sell!
I believe it was sold to a Thai American family because they son in particularly spoke really good English remember something they were from Texas or something! As noted the location was a death sentence Covid put it to bed sadly.
Explorer8939
07-26-25, 06:41
There is mild uncertainty in Pattaya over the border clashes. A lot of the ladies come from the affected provinces, where some areas are being evacuated. Also, the area around Trat.
Cambodians are lying low. There are more of them than most people know.
Thanks. I think I'll do mid November. I'd like to avoid the rains as much as I can. Will there be more supply of women in November? Last time when I visited during rainy season, I did not see too many good looking women around.
It can be more rainy in October than November.
Prices will be already up in November, particularly accomodations prices.
The quantity of girls will be pretty much the same.
Personnaly I much prefer October.
Old And Ugly
07-26-25, 14:20
There is mild uncertainty in Pattaya over the border clashes. A lot of the ladies come from the affected provinces, where some areas are being evacuated. Also, the area around Trat.
Cambodians are lying low. There are more of them than most people know.I was just ready to ask how is the situation on the ground in Pattaya? I crossed the land border at Krong Poi Pet, 5 months ago, I guess that's no longer possible. Is that affecting the mongering in Pattaya? I read it's more than a border skirmish, with 15 death and fighter jets involved.
Explorer8939
07-26-25, 14:50
I was just ready to ask how is the situation on the ground in Pattaya? I crossed the land border at Krong Poi Pet, 5 months ago, I guess that's no longer possible. Is that affecting the mongering in Pattaya? I read it's more than a border skirmish, with 15 death and fighter jets involved.No impact on Pattaya mongering.
Explorer8939
07-26-25, 14:53
Thanks. I think I'll do mid November. I'd like to avoid the rains as much as I can. Will there be more supply of women in November? Last time when I visited during rainy season, I did not see too many good looking women around.The number of ladies in Pattaya in November is about the same as October.
The big ramp up comes in January, as the ladies tell their friends back home about the money they made during High season. So the friends start filtering into Pattaya, some don't arrive until May.
Cool. But will the weather be nice and sunny in November? I was hoping to go and see some.
Islands too.
The number of ladies in Pattaya in November is about the same as October.
The big ramp up comes in January, as the ladies tell their friends back home about the money they made during High season. So the friends start filtering into Pattaya, some don't arrive until May.
Has anyone travelled from pattaya to koh samet? How was the experience, and is the island worth visiting? Heard its nice and small and pretty. Though I doubt one can get freelancers there.
Mr Enternational
07-27-25, 01:27
I believe it was sold to a Thai American family because they son in particularly spoke really good English remember something they were from Texas or something! As noted the location was a death sentence Covid put it to bed sadly.Exactly. And there was hardly anyone at the new location the couple of times I visited. It was more like tucked away in a business park. Definitely not getting any new customers that way. Only people who already knew the place from Soi 7 and looked the new location up on google maps.
The Angeles City location stays in full swing though. I would say it is one of the best places to eat in that city of horrible food. The other day a chick tried to get me to take her to a Filipino restaurant. I told her no thanks. Last time I ate at one of those, I was on the toilet for 2 weeks. Ruining asparagus by drowning it in syrup gravy. What kind of bullshit is that?
I stopped in there a couple of times last year, but only for the huge margaritas.I ordered Tequila because I liked the little dance the waitress did when you bought one. I would go there for lunch every other day. I really liked the place but it was pretty much game over when Daryl the owner passed away.
HorseTrader
07-27-25, 18:20
Has anyone travelled from pattaya to koh samet? How was the experience, and is the island worth visiting? Heard it’s nice and small and pretty. Though I doubt one can get freelancers there.I've visited Koh Samet, but just once. I brought my own girl, which is recommended because mongering opportunities did not seem obvious. Parts of the island have beautiful sand beaches, the nicest I've seen in the Gulf of Thailand. Other places have beaches of boulders, which are very nice for sitting and reflecting. The island is covered in resorts and when I went the visitors were mostly from east Asia. Very few farang, subcontinent, or Africa. When I walked out of my resort I was forced to go very close to a disgusting, fly infested pile of trash; such pockets were common, this was just outside of my 4-star resort. Several outdoor restaurants were fly infested. Transportation on the island is limited, so wear comfortable shoes.
In summary, it's a beautiful island with beautiful resorts, but there are unavoidable pockets of filth. If you go, I recommend that you bring your own girl. Definitely bring DEET, you will need it at night.
I was hoping for some nightspots to watch live rock music thanks so much.
UglyAzzMan
07-28-25, 02:38
I think this pretty much covers my needs for a 3-day visit! Thank yoiu!!Are you ok with Hit Girls at 1,000 baht.
Know who you taking advice from. You can't be wasting time at Kinkand Windmill unless you like OlUglies.
UglyAzzMan
07-28-25, 02:39
So inflation means a general priceincrease because of an expansion of the money supply. People belive prices in Pattaya has risen because of inflation. I had an interestng conversation with a soi 6 girl that I want to share with you. I found her on twitter. She is an average looker in Repent bar that asks 900 online form thai customers.Are you Thai. Dude.
UglyAzzMan
07-28-25, 02:46
Desire Bar Livestream. There's a character DEMON said he spent $25,000 on $5 online drinks. That was a few weeks ago.
Since then I would not be Surprised if he over $50,000.
Last night he supported' $2,000 online.
Could be the guy who spent $25,000 on Article Intelligence Jennifer Aniston. She said she would marry him. Hahaha. Hahaha.
Desire Bar Livestream. There's a character DEMON said he spent $25,000 on $5 online drinks. That was a few weeks ago.
Since then I would not be Surprised if he over $50,000.
Last night he supported' $2,000 online.
Could be the guy who spent $25,000 on Article Intelligence Jennifer Aniston. She said she would marry him. Hahaha. Hahaha.Dude, Jennifer Anniston is 56 years old.
Giovanni Volo
07-28-25, 16:26
I been to Koh Sameth.
It is very nice and very pretty.
There were free lancer in a bar just after the port. They work in evening and night.
But they were not so young and not so beautiful.
You could go for a nice sea break, not for paied girls.
Has anyone travelled from pattaya to koh samet? How was the experience, and is the island worth visiting? Heard its nice and small and pretty. Though I doubt one can get freelancers there.
UglyAzzMan
07-28-25, 22:27
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Are you ok with girls at 1,000 baht.My understanding that individuals are only limited by their either their personal budgets or what they are willing to pay. KrumeLurer suggests that even 1000 THB is too high a price to pay in order to hire a prostitute.
You can't be wasting time at Kink and WindmillKink and Windmill are two of my favorites Agogos. Never a waste of time for me. I spend a lot more than 1000 THB when I am up in there.
Question can anyone up in here go to what is considered a top tier Agogo on walking street and spend less than 1000 THB?
Because my understanding is out of those places the total out the door price to fuck is 6000 - 10000 THB. Correct me if I am wrong!
I was in patttaya in April. Found a fun LT girl from thai friendly. 9 nights,3 hotels in pattaya and 5 nights in Bangkok. We found live music every night we choose. Mostly rock cover bands, some reggae. Most drinks resonable price. My 1st night found decent rock band in open bar and went 3 times. The ladies were overpriced but music good. Explore a bit. Also hit more of a high roller, stage show, including some ladyboys type music venue. It was fun and lively.
LittleBigMan
07-29-25, 02:23
My understanding that individuals are only limited by their either their personal budgets or what they are willing to pay. KrumeLurer suggests that even 1000 THB is too high a price to pay in order to hire a prostitute.
Kink and Windmill are two of my favorites Agogos. Never a waste of time for me. I spend a lot more than 1000 THB when I am up in there.
Question can anyone up in here go to what is considered a top tier Agogo on walking street and spend less than 1000 THB?
Because my understanding is out of those places the total out the door price to fuck is 6000 - 10000 THB. Correct me if I am wrong!There was a time I didn't 1000 baht, but since the end of Covid I do it all the time! Whenever I do go out, I try to visit 2-3 places after dinner. I've narrowed it down to on WS, no more than 5 GoGo's, LK, 2, I would visit, these places in the past I noticed if I order the special Beer, generally 95 baht, although not a beer drinker the servers would come by after a few minutes pull my tab and take a look as to when I arrived. So I switch back to my Sangsom on the rocks more expensive one or two allows me to see the full rotation and I move on damage 400 baht tops lighter.
My motor today, go look at a steak and then if I have the urge get a hamburger. LOL,
PrinceRaj2126
07-29-25, 04:54
Hello mongers.
I'll be in bkk in Aug after a pretty long gap. Since I'm in for 2 days in bkk and 2 days in patt, and apart from massage I want to try some freelancers.
And since pick ups can be a hit or miss, and not enough time, I'm looking for help. Can anyone please DM me any good trusted thai FL in bkk and pattaya, contact who is good looking.
Cheers.
Sylvestor2001
08-01-25, 05:03
I am planning a trip soon, I saw less reports regarding where to find russians / european in pattaya.
It will be good if anyone can inform me where I can also charges what I can expect.
I am planning a trip soon, I saw less reports regarding where to find russians / european in pattaya. It will be good if anyone can inform me where I can also charges what I can expect.There are clubs on Walking Street. Universal opinion is that they are all rip offs. Thai Friendly you can run across them but you cannot search for them. I've noticed a lot of Russians posted up in Pratumnak.
Got noting for you on pricing. I am into Thai Girls. Every Russian Girl that I have a discussion with on Thai Friendly is charing a 1.5 - 2 times premium over the prices I am willing to pay and that pretty Thai girls of all ages are willing to accept.
Axel Heyst
08-01-25, 17:36
Yep, I totally agree. I never understood why guys come to Thailand and then start looking for other nationalities, Russian girls, middle eastern girls, or African girls. In my experience the local fruit is always sweeter.
There are clubs on Walking Street. Universal opinion is that they are all rip offs. Thai Friendly you can run across them but you cannot search for them. I've noticed a lot of Russians posted up in Pratumnak.
Got noting for you on pricing. I am into Thai Girls. Every Russian Girl that I have a discussion with on Thai Friendly is charing a 1.5 - 2 times premium over the prices I am willing to pay and that pretty Thai girls of all ages are willing to accept.
Sylvestor2001
08-01-25, 19:53
There are clubs on Walking Street. Universal opinion is that they are all rip offs. Thai Friendly you can run across them but you cannot search for them. I've noticed a lot of Russians posted up in Pratumnak.
Got noting for you on pricing. I am into Thai Girls. Every Russian Girl that I have a discussion with on Thai Friendly is charing a 1.5 - 2 times premium over the prices I am willing to pay and that pretty Thai girls of all ages are willing to accept.Thank you for your advice, noted.
Hello mongers.
I'll be in bkk in Aug after a pretty long gap. Since I'm in for 2 days in bkk and 2 days in patt, and apart from massage I want to try some freelancers.
And since pick ups can be a hit or miss, and not enough time, I'm looking for help. Can anyone please DM me any good trusted thai FL in bkk and pattaya, contact who is good looking.
Cheers.Copy me too LOL.
Explorer8939
08-02-25, 03:08
There are clubs on Walking Street. Universal opinion is that they are all rip offs. Thai Friendly you can run across them but you cannot search for them. I've noticed a lot of Russians posted up in Pratumnak.
Got noting for you on pricing. I am into Thai Girls. Every Russian Girl that I have a discussion with on Thai Friendly is charing a 1.5 - 2 times premium over the prices I am willing to pay and that pretty Thai girls of all ages are willing to accept.Back in the day, I lived in Russia, and would find Russian cheerleader types in the provinces for $20 - $30. The Russian ladies in Pattaya don't do it for me, they are old and out of shape. Once every few years, I will take a Thai lady to a Walking Street Russian bar, where some Russian lady will fawn over her. Of course a lady drink might be 700 baht.
Tons of Indian guys come in, but are presented with a drink menu immediately. Followed by them running out the door.
LittleBigMan
08-02-25, 03:16
Yep, I totally agree. I never understood why guys come to Thailand and then start looking for other nationalities, Russian girls, middle eastern girls, or African girls. In my experience the local fruit is always sweeter.I agree too, but there are exceptions, in the 80's I regularly traveled to HK, then into China my local cousins were my tour guy one of them love the white chicks so whenever he came to the States I did the repayment. Then White meat was abundant his favorite place was the Mustang Ranch up in Nevada. This same cousins also took me to places in HK land Macau like China City were there were lots of Russians working?
Living here for 20 now rarely travel like the guys here all I get is Thai, everyday it is the same favor I guess once in a while a change up is good, the last white piece of meat I had was in the early 2000 in Bangkok, on Soi 4, in a alley just pass Nana Plaza a low budget hotel two day stay, the same floor there were a few Russians working out of the place, if memory served me it was like 2000 for a quicky. A change is good at times. Like Ice Cream Baskin Robbins 31 favors! LOL.
Banana Boi
08-02-25, 08:34
I am planning a trip soon, I saw less reports regarding where to find russians / european in pattaya.
Have you considered going to the FKK Clubs in Germany for your Caucasian fix? A FAR BETTER option than Pattaya.
I haven't seen a hot Russian working girl in Pattaya since Rasputin shut down around 2017. At that time they were around 5000-9000+ baht for 90 minutes. Would hate to think about how much it would cost now. Even then only a couple of the girls were pretty.
As for those Walking Street Russian clubs consensus is that even if the girl were willing to go home with you and baht is no object you will be left unsatisfied and MUCH poorer.
Mr Enternational
08-02-25, 15:50
Yep, I totally agree. I never understood why guys come to Thailand and then start looking for other nationalities, Russian girls, middle eastern girls, or African girls. In my experience the local fruit is always sweeter.It is called killing multiple birds with one stone. For instance a trip to Dubai would net you zero UAE chicks. However, you could find chicks from countless other countries.
Axel Heyst
08-02-25, 17:16
It is called killing multiple birds with one stone. For instance a trip to Dubai would net you zero UAE chicks. However, you could find chicks from countless other countries.Yes, but what you are highlighting is the difference between primary P4P destinations like Thailand, Jakarta, the PI, and Brazil where most if not all the talent is domestic and secondary P4P destinations like Singapore, Macau, and Dubai where all of the talent is imported.
Pre-Covid I used to visit Macau and Singapore all the time and I enjoyed the variety. Like me, you have probably experienced Geylang at its height and had the rush of being surrounded on an otherwise quiet, residential street by 30 or 40 Chinese girls in front of you, 30 Indonesian girls to your right, 30 Thai girls to your left, and 30 or 40 Vietnamese girls behind you. It's an amazing situation or more accurately was.
But back to Thailand and other primary destinations: imported girls are available, but generally it's best to stick with the natives. Jakarta is just about the only primary place where I found in a couple of the top end bordellos, a quality selection of both Indonesian girls and imported girls to my liking. But wow what a difference there was in bed between the local girls and the Vietnamese and Chinese girls! And the so-called "Russian" girls were always sub- par in looks so I never bothered with them.
Mr Enternational
08-02-25, 18:42
Yes, but what you are highlighting is the difference between primary P4P destinations like Thailand, Jakarta, the PI, and Brazil where most if not all the talent is domestic and secondary P4P destinations like Singapore, Macau, and Dubai where all of the talent is imported.But people who do not travel much and are not as experienced do not know these things. And like LBM said, there used to be a ton of Eastern European hookers near Nana in Bangkok. There also used to be Colombians at Mixx Disco in Pattaya. If you don't ask you may never know.
It's been about 20 years since I've been to Pattaya. My last 2-3 times, I just seemed snakebit. I couldn't find a girl who was up to my standards and the girls I was finding had issues. Over the last 20 years, I've been a regular in AC, Bangkok, Colombia and even Madagascar. I'm thinking of checking out Pattaya agin on my next trip (before heading back to the Philippines). It looks like Pattaya has had a TON of development with lots of new malls. What else has changed? I generally try to bang 3 girls per day (or 2 if I take a long time at night). Is there plenty of daytime action? Are there places like Hell Club anymore where you can take 2 girls and basically anything goes? What is the condom situation like now? 20 years ago, it was hard to find a girl who didn't insist on condoms. Nowadays, I have a very high success rate on BBFS in Bangkok.
Parasitius
08-02-25, 23:42
It's been about 20 years since I've been to Pattaya. My last 2-3 times, I just seemed snakebit. I couldn't find a girl who was up to my standards and the girls I was finding had issues. Over the last 20 years, I've been a regular in AC, Bangkok, Colombia and even Madagascar. I'm thinking of checking out Pattaya agin on my next trip (before heading back to the Philippines). It looks like Pattaya has had a TON of development with lots of new malls. What else has changed? I generally try to bang 3 girls per day (or 2 if I take a long time at night). Is there plenty of daytime action? Are there places like Hell Club anymore where you can take 2 girls and basically anything goes? What is the condom situation like now? 20 years ago, it was hard to find a girl who didn't insist on condoms. Nowadays, I have a very high success rate on BBFS in Bangkok.Don't overcommit, book 3 days and leave yourself open to returning to Bangkok. Girls are slightly less hot and slightly cheaper. Otherwise, Pattaya is now a massive rip off. Even McDonald's - 25-40% more expensive than other cities in Thailand. Same as Bangkok, but on average Pattaya food is more than Bangkok now in Cost of Living calculators. Rip off. I'm frankly done with Pattaya, this is the last year. Only going cause I'm meeting rare to see friends. Otherwise I'd had enough, last year I made the mistake of staying 80 days - I can't stand Pattaya Thais personally. By the way, it is mostly (98%) at the Bangkok standard for daily life offerings.
Is there plenty of daytime action?Depends on what you define as daytime. There are Gentleman's Clubs that open as early at 1000 but most open between 1300 - 1700. On Soi Honey you can get action in the naughty massage venues as early as 0700 (but you may not like the options if you are picky). Soi 6 opens at 1100. Thai Friendly has girls available 024/007/365.
What is the condom situation like now?You get what you are willing to ask for or pay for.
Otherwise, Pattaya is now a massive rip off. I disagree. I think Pattaya is an exceptional value given the price of accommodations, food and entertainment. Plenty of quality offerings. Not going to tell you Thailand is inexpensive. It depends upon your perspective. I value infrastructure and quality and variety of food and entertainment offering. I have no problem enjoying my life on a daily basis. I be ballin on a budget!
Don't overcommit, book 3 days and leave yourself open to returning to Bangkok. Girls are slightly less hot and slightly cheaper. Was not my experience. Have been posted up in Pattaya for more than a minute but only a week in Bangkok. Hiring a prostitute in Bangkok is 2 -5 times more expensive than in Bangkok. I do not think that the girls in Bangkok more attractive.
Even McDonald's - 25-40% more expensive than other cities in Thailand.Cannot comment on this as I don't goto McDonalds unless a girl requests that she wants to eat there. Who comes to Thailand to eat Western Fast Food (especially if they are just visiting)? Can I get a eye roll please. ROTFLMAO.
Same as Bangkok, but on average Pattaya food is more than Bangkok now in Cost of Living calculators. Rip off.The food in Bangkok is 3 times more expensive on average but of an exceptional quality in comparison to Pattaya. Rip off? Hardly given the high quality of food. Bangkok is a world class city.
I'm frankly done with Pattaya, this is the last year. Only going cause I'm meeting rare to see friends.Excellent! There are too many tourists here during high season to the point where I am considering skipping town during that period on a yearly basis.
We all know world class cities cost. Thailand is not inexpensive. But what you get in Thailand is exceptional value for your money. I've said it more than once, if you don't have the flow or the stack to support the International Trickin activities of your choice, stay at home and put in some work until you do.
Your time; Your money; Your dick; Your call!
Don't overcommit, book 3 days and leave yourself open to returning to Bangkok. Girls are slightly less hot and slightly cheaper. Otherwise, Pattaya is now a massive rip off. Even McDonald's - 25-40% more expensive than other cities in Thailand. Same as Bangkok, but on average Pattaya food is more than Bangkok now in Cost of Living calculators. Rip off. I'm frankly done with Pattaya, this is the last year. Only going cause I'm meeting rare to see friends. Otherwise I'd had enough, last year I made the mistake of staying 80 days - I can't stand Pattaya Thais personally. By the way, it is mostly (98%) at the Bangkok standard for daily life offerings.This is good stuff. It makes me think of just staying in Bangkok. Where my hotel is free thanks to Hyatt points and I know the lay of the land very well. I was just thinking that the sheer number of girls in Pattaya would mean that there would have to me a good number of my preferred type: college aged and skinny.
Explorer8939
08-03-25, 15:10
This is good stuff. It makes me think of just staying in Bangkok. Where my hotel is free thanks to Hyatt points and I know the lay of the land very well. I was just thinking that the sheer number of girls in Pattaya would mean that there would have to me a good number of my preferred type: college aged and skinny.You will find a few college age ladies in Pattaya, but skinny is rare.
It's been about 20 years since I've been to Pattaya. My last 2-3 times, I just seemed snakebit. I couldn't find a girl who was up to my standards and the girls I was finding had issues. Over the last 20 years, I've been a regular in AC, Bangkok, Colombia and even Madagascar. I'm thinking of checking out Pattaya agin on my next trip (before heading back to the Philippines). It looks like Pattaya has had a TON of development with lots of new malls. What else has changed? I generally try to bang 3 girls per day (or 2 if I take a long time at night). Is there plenty of daytime action? Are there places like Hell Club anymore where you can take 2 girls and basically anything goes? What is the condom situation like now? 20 years ago, it was hard to find a girl who didn't insist on condoms. Nowadays, I have a very high success rate on BBFS in Bangkok.The internet and Covid has changed it all forever. Girls have found that they can make money online so why see old fat dudes. Where before the only way to meet dudes was working in a bar, stand on a street corner, or know someone. Fuck man, these days, every country has an app and bitches use filters to make their fat asses look better. Just like America, older bitches think that their shit is worth $$.
I'm seeing the path now. For the short timers, passport bros, who come and stay in touristy areas, go to bars full of farang, there is a high chance that the girls will be hardened and sometimes provide shit service. The only way to get amazing talent is to live in a country for a while, leave the big cities and go to smaller towns where the girls have not been with farang. This is the main way of finding quality. It sucks but that's how the world is going towards. The dudes who are getting amazing shit are the ones who find the girls from local venues like malls, small shops, Facebook, etc.
Amazing talent is still around but we need to search more and pay more. Guys who are stuck to prices of 2010 may have a hard time with this. So let's see how many good talent I find in India, I mean Pattaya. LOL.
I was just thinking that the sheer number of girls in Pattaya would mean that there would have to me a good number of my preferred type: college aged and skinny.There are plenty of these in soi 6 in Pattaya, but you'll have to play the house's rules if you like to enjoy their company: pay some drinks (many places have overpriced drinks these days) and don't set the girl's rate too low.
UglyAzzMan
08-03-25, 17:47
This is good stuff. It makes me think of just staying in Bangkok. Where my hotel is free thanks to Hyatt points and I know the lay of the land very well. I was just thinking that the sheer number of girls in Pattaya would mean that there would have to me a good number of my preferred type: college aged and skinny.There sre girls all over. As long as Good Face is nit a requirement. Hahaha.
UglyAzzMan
08-03-25, 17:51
The internet and Covid has changed it all forever. Girls have found that they can make money online so why see old fat dudes. Where before the only way to meet dudes was working in a bar, stand on a street corner, or know someone. Fuck man, these days, every country has an app and bitches use filters to make their fat asses look better. Just like America, older bitches think that their shit is worth $$.
I'm seeing the path now. For the short timers, passport bros, who come and stay in touristy areas, go to bars full of farang, there is a high chance that the girls will be hardened and sometimes provide shit service. The only way to get amazing talent is to live in a country for a while, leave the big cities and go to smaller towns where the girls have not been with farang. This is the main way of finding quality. It sucks but that's how the world is going towards. The dudes who are getting amazing shit are the ones who find the girls from local venues like malls, small shops, Facebook, etc.
Amazing talent is still around but we need to search more and pay more. Guys who are stuck to prices of 2010 may have a hard time with this. So let's see how many good talent I find in India, I mean Pattaya. LOL.All t h e Hot girls from the Farm Town s are in Pattaya.
Agree with many here, will just throw in my 2 cents. Agree covid and internet has changed things. I'm near mexico so that's my regular hunting ground, is hit and miss and many there selling content. I live in big city so many avalible working ladies but many addicts or crazy prices. I did Bangkok pattaya visit in April. I found Bangkok more expensive for everything and ladies no better than pattaya. Looking for youngest and hottest probably soi 6. Some cuties at go, gos off walking street but crazy prices and that street way over rated. Bang for the buck, look at the other areas and thaifriendly worked for me. Do your homework, enjoy the experience.
Parasitius
08-04-25, 00:02
We're hearing a wide variety of takes on Pattaya! I hope the gentleman who started with the question updates us on what advice turned out to be right for him after.
Mr Enternational
08-04-25, 00:05
We're hearing a wide variety of takes on Pattaya! I hope the gentleman who started with the question updates us on what advice turned out to be right for him after.If he decides not to go then how will he know?
Axel Heyst
08-04-25, 17:21
There are plenty of these in soi 6 in Pattaya, but you'll have to play the house's rules if you like to enjoy their company: pay some drinks (many places have overpriced drinks these days) and don't set the girl's rate too low.Thanks for your report. Some of the girls in the pics posted look good, others not so much or nothing special. So, what does it cost to bag one of the cute ones: required lady drinks, room, and the girl's fee? And I am assuming we are talking ST and upstairs. And what about the bedroom attitude of these girls?
Soi 6 used to be all about cheap ST fun with friendly Isan girls. Is this still true or have savvy punters gone elsewhere to satisfy this itch?
TravelingMan3
08-04-25, 20:11
Guys saying they couldn't find a hot chick or rather a chick they'ed want to fuck is crazy there are plenty. I think those saying it are the type of dudes that need the chick to fake excitement at there presence like what happens on soi 6 from time time. They'll say how picky thy are but then say I found a hot chick at windmill or club fate where all the ladies are a mix of ugly or old. There budget could also be a factor if you only want to spend a 1000 baht it may take awhile to find a hot chick in that price range.
LittleBigMan
08-05-25, 03:24
If he decides not to go then how will he know?And that is the big question Mr. E, everyone as I've noted for years " pay their dues " People want the answers instead of finding out themselves it like looks right! Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder yet we continue to debate it here like price! What one might like might now be what another likes? I've like many here sat with others they point to a girl who they like or pick, and I'm thinking she is pretty but I wouldn't pick her then the criticism or remarks of good looking guys being with average looking girls to them!
If you really want to know take the time to find out, be adventurous! Shit happens and shit doesn't happen?
Explorer8939
08-05-25, 06:40
Guys saying they couldn't find a hot chick or rather a chick they'ed want to fuck is crazy there are plenty. I think those saying it are the type of dudes that need the chick to fake excitement at there presence like what happens on soi 6 from time time. They'll say how picky thy are but then say I found a hot chick at windmill or club fate where all the ladies are a mix of ugly or old. There budget could also be a factor if you only want to spend a 1000 baht it may take awhile to find a hot chick in that price range.As a point of information, I once barfined a lady at Windmill who was just about a "10". I was with an older Bargirl who really wanted me to barfine the 10, which I did. They then proceeded to have really hot sex in my hotel room.
Within a couple of days, the hot girl shoved off for Taiwan, and spent the next ten years working the usual places, ending up in England.
My point is you never know what you will see in Windmill.
Thanks for your report. Some of the girls in the pics posted look good, others not so much or nothing special. So, what does it cost to bag one of the cute ones: required lady drinks, room, and the girl's fee? And I am assuming we are talking ST and upstairs. And what about the bedroom attitude of these girls?
Soi 6 used to be all about cheap ST fun with friendly Isan girls. Is this still true or have savvy punters gone elsewhere to satisfy this itch?Hi Axel,
The pics were added to show there are plenty of the OP's type of girls working all over the soi (young and skinny), it was not supposed to be a beauty contest.
Cost to bag one of the cute ones: more or less 3 K on average, including her fee (if she asks a 2 K standard fee), barfine, your drink and 2 or 3 LDs.
Take in consideration that the 2 K fee is considered very average now and many girls will ask for more or reject the potential customer, plus some bars are adding some requirements before banging the girls it seems, like a fixed number of LDs you'll have to buy, or a limited time allowed on each LDs (the worst I've met was that girl who would allow only 15 minutes per drinks, and that be*tch was watching the time).
What to expect for the 3 K you spent on her (relatively pricey for a bang in Pattaya, but to be fair it also includes some good time with her downstairs) : Anything from a below average experience to an amazing one. It depends on you and your luck, how much she is into you, how experienced she is, how much she enjoys sex and on which bases you chose her. Nothing is guaranteed, even if you pay more.
It's not a cheap place anymore, unless you go for one of the 95% of girls that are less pretty, fat, too experienced, old, shy or whatever reasons they get few customers on average and even then you'll be on average with a 1500 or 2 K bill in the end.
The soi is slowly moving to a different beast, it's all about ladydrinks now, but there are still plenty of girls working there and willing to be bangged for ST or barfined. The best ones in my opinion are the freelancers who does not work on a contract but they are not easy to find. Many new bars are still opening now, I've seen at least 3 new bars that were not even there 2 months ago, so the ladydrinks sh*t will probably keep expanding and the cost on average might go up too.
Thanks for your report. Some of the girls in the pics posted look good, others not so much or nothing special. So, what does it cost to bag one of the cute ones: required lady drinks, room, and the girl's fee? And I am assuming we are talking ST and upstairs. And what about the bedroom attitude of these girls?
Soi 6 used to be all about cheap ST fun with friendly Isan girls. Is this still true or have savvy punters gone elsewhere to satisfy this itch?Brother, you know I been posted up in dis ***** for more than a minute. There are an infinite number a ways to hire a prostitute in Pattaya. I don't think Soi 6 is all that except for the Blow Job venues. I personally don't really enjoy the ambiance. But let's keep it real. The only thing that is cheep in Pattaya anymore is street food.
Indonesia is less expensive, Colombia is less expensive (or about equal to Pattaya) and countries on the African Continent are cheeper than Pattaya. What Pattaya offers is an abundance of prostitutes to hire at reasonable pricers as compared to more developed countries in the west and it has good infrastructure. I find it to be a safe and easy place to post up in. Plus BKK is one of the most well connected airports in the entire world.
This is the view of The Cmdr!
Old And Ugly
08-05-25, 11:54
And that is the big question Mr. E, everyone as I've noted for years " pay their dues " People want the answers instead of finding out themselves it like looks right! Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder yet we continue to debate it here like price! What one might like might now be what another likes? I've like many here sat with others they point to a girl who they like or pick, and I'm thinking she is pretty but I wouldn't pick her then the criticism or remarks of good looking guys being with average looking girls to them!
If you really want to know take the time to find out, be adventurous! Shit happens and shit doesn't happen?You are absolutely right, most pics of the girls posted here as stunners, doesn't do it for me, everybody has a different type of ideal face, body and style imprinted in their subconsciousness by some early memories or experiences, myself I think I watched too many annual Victoria's Secret Fashion Shows. Some are obsessed with a big butt, some care about big boobs and nothing else, some like them skinny, and some plump, tall or short, etc. Its a personal choice, and probably the only feature that we all agree upon is if the girl if fucking ugly, or has an arm or a leg missing.
How to score hostel chics during backpacking? Anyone has idea here.
Which hostels should I target?
Old And Ugly
08-05-25, 22:59
How to score hostel chics during backpacking? Anyone has idea here.
Which hostels should I target?Probably if you're young, handsome, and have patience for a few days to listen to them talking nonsense while going to yoga together, and get stoned afterwards. But most likely you will just waste your time.
Running away as far as possible from fucked up in the head western females and easy access to exotic pussy is the main reason everybody comes to SEA, why come all the way here to experience home cooking?
How to score hostel chics during backpacking? Anyone has idea here.
Which hostels should I target?Idea? Yeah, same as you do in any other place: talk to them. No clue how to do that? Then you better be looking like Henry Cavill's unknown twin brother, because you're not gonna be scoring anything but your right hand.
LittleBigMan
08-06-25, 03:18
You are absolutely right, most pics of the girls posted here as stunners, doesn't do it for me, everybody has a different type of ideal face, body and style imprinted in their subconsciousness by some early memories or experiences, myself I think I watched too many annual Victoria's Secret Fashion Shows. Some are obsessed with a big butt, some care about big boobs and nothing else, some like them skinny, and some plump, tall or short, etc. Its a personal choice, and probably the only feature that we all agree upon is if the girl if fucking ugly, or has an arm or a leg missing.Let me just add? Now if they are missing a arm or leg that is obvious, but for a while now maybe it is old age arriving! Remember in H. S. At least for me, we use to say lady in 30 someone mother we would say or think she OLD!
Now at less for me, on a regular basis I would see a line up, at a GoGo, GC etc. You can present a suppose 10 plus aside from the looks, I'm thinking she a good fuck, today I'm more attracted to one very little makeup, natural, I would say ugly, but average and that is up for debate. One of my standards go to a top GoGo, she bares all inspite of not being a top looker, to me that takes balls, a girl that is doing what she needs to do to get the top salary to buy baby food. She isn't getting picked she knows it not like the others but she is there that shows me something that something is if you do get pick and someone pays attention that attention is appreciated. It might should funny but there have been many times I've pick one based on that standard and got my world rocked!
Lower standard, I've pick some great legs nice body but face so so and hit jackpot. Now I haven't had the balls to do a disable or midget but really not my think just like LB or Trans when in doubt pass!
DeepThoughts7
08-06-25, 04:12
Probably if you're young, handsome, and have patience for a few days to listen to them talking nonsense while going to yoga together, and get stoned afterwards. But most likely you will just waste your time.
Running away as far as possible from fucked up in the head western females and easy access to exotic pussy is the main reason everybody comes to SEA, why come all the way here to experience home cooking?Hi, this is absolutely the best response I have heard. Why in the world would you fly so far and then waste so much time and effort to meet a messed up Western lady who is trying to find herself? Especially when you are already in the best region to meet large volumes of exotic.
Old And Ugly
08-06-25, 05:55
Let me just add? Now if they are missing a arm or leg that is obvious, but for a while now maybe it is old age arriving! Remember in H. S. At least for me, we use to say lady in 30 someone mother we would say or think she OLD!
Now at less for me, on a regular basis I would see a line up, at a GoGo, GC etc. You can present a suppose 10 plus aside from the looks, I'm thinking she a good fuck, today I'm more attracted to one very little makeup, natural, I would say ugly, but average and that is up for debate. One of my standards go to a top GoGo, she bares all inspite of not being a top looker, to me that takes balls, a girl that is doing what she needs to do to get the top salary to buy baby food. She isn't getting picked she knows it not like the others but she is there that shows me something that something is if you do get pick and someone pays attention that attention is appreciated. It might should funny but there have been many times I've pick one based on that standard and got my world rocked!
Lower standard, I've pick some great legs nice body but face so so and hit jackpot. Now I haven't had the balls to do a disable or midget but really not my think just like LB or Trans when in doubt pass!See? That's another difference, makeup or no makeup, and a deeper way of thinking about the future performance, and the reason she's there. Myself also put the body first, then the face, because we are all unique in looks, and I find hidden beauty everywhere. A month ago I banged an average looking push cart veggies vendor with an incredible body, and after showering and letting her hair down, I was in for a surprise: dark lips, dark tanned skin, beautiful curly hair, her face looked totally different than on the street with the hair tided up behind the head, and cheap red lipstick, very beautiful. As men we look the same all the time, but makeup and hair can transform a woman unrecognizably, in this case whatever she thought was pretty, was doing the opposite, makeup wise.
Mr Enternational
08-06-25, 10:33
As men we look the same all the time, but makeup and hair can transform a woman unrecognizably, in this case whatever she thought was pretty, was doing the opposite, makeup wise.Yeah well nakeup and hair can also transform a dude unrecognizably. I do not think as many guys would go for ladyboys if they were not wearing the makeup and hair. You ever seen those cats walking on Soi Buakhao in the morning looking like a regular dude with implants?
As for chicks, I rarely talk to a chick wearing makeup. I prefer to see what I am getting without all the warpaint. So to me it almost always does the opposite of what they think is pretty. If a chick comes to my room with makeup on, the first thing I do is send her to the bathroom to take it off.
How to score hostel chics during backpacking? Anyone has idea here.
Which hostels should I target?Hang out at a Hostel, talk to them, smoke some weed, be cool, flash the cash.
I get them at a hostel in Siem Reap, I'm 70 but I have weed, money, air conditioning and a good game.
Hang out at a Hostel, talk to them, smoke some weed, be cool, flash the cash.
I get them at a hostel in Siem Reap, I'm 70 but I have weed, money, air conditioning and a good game.You da man. It would take me a few days before I enter her panties. During that time I'll have to spend time with her and listen to her shit. During that time I could be banging some Thai beauties instead.
Pimpampoumpipo
08-06-25, 19:14
How to score hostel chics during backpacking? Anyone has idea here.
Which hostels should I target?Dorms with 8 or 10 beds per room. More if possible. Otherwise, sleep on the beach or play guitar on a sidewalk in Bangkok.
LittleBigMan
08-07-25, 02:47
Yeah well nakeup and hair can also transform a dude unrecognizably. I do not think as many guys would go for ladyboys if they were not wearing the makeup and hair. You ever seen those cats walking on Soi Buakhao in the morning looking like a regular dude with implants?
As for chicks, I rarely talk to a chick wearing makeup. I prefer to see what I am getting without all the warpaint. So to me it almost always does the opposite of what they think is pretty. If a chick comes to my room with makeup on, the first thing I do is send her to the bathroom to take it off.For me it never gets that far to my room or anywhere. The worse ones are the the white paint face it has to be natural. I do my interviews when they are on stage, I'm not looking at them dance I'm reading their body language and facial expression as to how they might interact or not. If they look at me I rarely even smile and if they ask for a drink, that checks them off! I'm not cheap have no problem buying drinks on my terms. If they do get that far a drink I don't care what they drink even water but how fast they ask for one makes a difference I do lots of talking that is my interview process. There is also a bunch of other things that go into my process which is like Eddy Murphy I'm not waking up with someone that their feet are larger than mines! LOL! I don't care it she is a 10!
Although, I haven't paid a BF in years at a GoGo, there was also a time if I did, prior I ask them don't be coming out in six inch platform shoes or a dress as if we are going to the prom! LOL!
Old And Ugly
08-07-25, 07:12
......... There is also a bunch of other things that go into my process which is like Eddy Murphy I'm not waking up with someone that their feet are larger than mines! LOL! I don't care it she is a 10!
....Lately, you can't go by that anymore, as the girls got taller, lots of them have big feet now, scary.
LittleBigMan
08-07-25, 10:26
Lately, you can't go by that anymore, as the girls got taller, lots of them have big feet now, scary.Not me, I'm not a big guy although they are taller in your opinion when I check them out it starts with the shoes 36-37 work my way up. They are 40, the bell start to ring, if they are D or E wide as I work my way up things better offset the width. I like to doggy if they too tall I got to stand up on the bed.Then if their toes are speard out I'm not fucking no frog I eat lots of frogs but I'm not fucking one. LOL.
CaliTraveler
08-07-25, 11:01
There is a meme I have recently stumbled upon on the X (former Tweeter), it goes something like this- 'be me, a twenty something guy from Ohio studying in New York, 65% of the students are American females mostly white, totally fucked up in their head, they don't talk to each other, like never, let alone to a guy from Ohio like me, they get up after each class like like zombies, maybe they drink canned lates or soup from plastic cup and go back to the next class dreaming of the future dominance over men like me and the whole world but will inevitably fall into the 'travel / study solo to France or Italy' or one of those female traps, and back to the US as a broken down feminist after a few years". There's all the wisdom about the western female you need to know to strategically avoid them. I remember meeting girls at NYC bars in my twenties when I first immigrated to NYC from Europe in the mid 90's and girls were much different then, princess mentality but not as hard core feminist as they are today, they were a lot more approachable. I was in one of the hostels in Maui three years ago, now as a fifty year old and had a fun time, Banana Bungalow hostel is a party hostel, DJ music every night and I must say, the vibe was beautiful, the hostel also gives free rides to tourist attractions like Road to Hana and Volcano trips and those activities get young people together pretty quick, but hey, let's keep it real, young western girls are looking for young Australian and American kids, surfers, body builders and guys with money, don't get fooled. And it's all perfectly fine, that's why God gave us places like Thailand and Colombia where we can literally have fun with girls that look like miss universe contestants without a fear of loosing the house and kids. And western women know it too, so the big reason of her not wanting to talk to you or me is because she is well aware of all this and she's furious. However, some of us will have fun abroad but will want to end up with a women of our own kind, and trust me, they are out there, you just have to look for them. Friend of mine, he's from New Orleans, lives in LOS Angeles for the past five years, he wants a white American or European woman and would not even consider anything else let alone paying for the action and he is approaching his 60's, so he is trapped, he knows it and he keeps hope alive. But for most of us, all we have to do is save a few thousands, book a flight on sky scanner and voila. Anyways, life's great, and we have to thank God every day for without God, there would be nothing.
.... dreaming of the future dominance over men like me and the whole world .......These girls are dreaming of marrying a billionaire, if unsuccessful then a millionaire, and if successful they will then dream of fucking young hunks.
HorseTrader
08-08-25, 00:44
These girls are dreaming of marrying a billionaire, if unsuccessful then a millionaire, and if successful they will then dream of fucking young hunks.It's not just the white western women. A plain looking 30-something woman on a Thai dating site found me and was offering herself for marriage. Sin sod was $5,000,000 (USD), which soon got changed to $10,000,000. After marriage, she was requiring 50,000 baht be sent to family monthly, in exchange she would do the cooking for me, but she wouldn't clean the house. If sent 100,000 baht monthly to family, she would also do the house cleaning.
Captain Solo
08-08-25, 04:01
Her offer is insanely ridiculous. Must be an inmate in asylum.
Tell her you would offer her 2,000 Bahts a day which includes sex in any position any time, cook, clean, wash your car, mow your lawn, run errands.
It's not just the white western women. A plain looking 30-something woman on a Thai dating site found me and was offering herself for marriage. Sin sod was $5,000,000 (USD), which soon got changed to $10,000,000. After marriage, she was requiring 50,000 baht be sent to family monthly, in exchange she would do the cooking for me, but she wouldn't clean the house. If sent 100,000 baht monthly to family, she would also do the house cleaning.
It's not just the white western women. A plain looking 30-something woman on a Thai dating site found me and was offering herself for marriage. Sin sod was $5,000,000 (USD), which soon got changed to $10,000,000. After marriage, she was requiring 50,000 baht be sent to family monthly, in exchange she would do the cooking for me, but she wouldn't clean the house. If sent 100,000 baht monthly to family, she would also do the house cleaning.So are you now doing the house cleaning yourself, or?
Her offer is insanely ridiculous. Must be an inmate in asylum.
Around 15 years ago, when I was living in Thailand, I set up a date with a girl on thaifriendly. I joked a bit back and forth with here before we met, and she, I thought, joked back with me that she could only meet during some specific hours, as she was currently living in hospital X, and those were the hours she was allowed outside. Hospital X was a known crazy people hospital/psychiatric ward.
Well, when we met, at whatever coffee place or restaurant I liked to use at the time, it turned out she was not joking.
Old And Ugly
08-08-25, 07:51
I do the cleaning myself, because I don't like the way GF does it. The asian method regardless of country is sweeping the floor like playing golf, involving lots of unnecessary work because the trash is thrown all over the place at the end of the swing instead of an precise stop where the pile is, kind of like you see them sweeping the sidewalk in front of the store, then also requires making little piles of trash all over the house which are to be left there for 1 hour before the next step when they will be collected in the dust pan. Having a cleaning lady is also useless, because the cleaning may be necessary right away, in-between the schedule, unless she's there to do the famous clean-and-fuck procedure. I don't even want to talk about cooking and cleaning the kitchen, you'll end up with everything sticky and greasy.
Everybody praises the house cleaning and cooking as part of the living in SEA perks, but probably I'm just to fucked up in the head to take advantage of it. 50 years ago used to be the reverse, guys were messy, and the girls were neat, our days is the opposite, maybe due to global warming.
I do the cleaning myself, because I don't like the way GF does it. The asian method regardless of country is sweeping the floor like playing golf, involving lots of unnecessary work because the trash is thrown all over the place at the end of the swing instead of an precise stop where the pile is, kind of like you see them sweeping the sidewalk in front of the store, then also requires making little piles of trash all over the house which are to be left there for 1 hour before the next step when they will be collected in the dust pan. Having a cleaning lady is also useless, because the cleaning may be necessary right away, in-between the schedule, unless she's there to do the famous clean-and-fuck procedure. I don't even want to talk about cooking and cleaning the kitchen, you'll end up with everything sticky and greasy.
Everybody praises the house cleaning and cooking as part of the living in SEA perks, but probably I'm just to fucked up in the head to take advantage of it. 50 years ago used to be the reverse, guys were messy, and the girls were neat, our days is the opposite, maybe due to global warming.House cleaning in Pattaya is scarce and expensive. It is more expensive on a per-hour basis than eg in Paris, and it is indeed of very poor quality (like not sweeping under the bed or not bothering to clean the balcony). So much for Thailand being a country with plentiful manual labour and low labour costs. The cost of house cleaning is a major reason why I choose to stay in hotels rather than rent condos.
OMG I'm in Pattaya right now! And seriousely, it's very difficult now to find a sexy young girl! Only yesterday night I fucked a sexy lady. But during 3 days, I was walking everyday in Pattaya, I walked about 15 km, and impossible to find 1 sexy lady. Even in Soi 6 now, it's very difficult and prices on the lady drink increased a lot. Now it's 180/190 bahts per lady drink, most ofthe girls don't want LT but ST and they want you fuck them in a room in the bar. Before covid a room was 300 and now it's 400 min. Ladies for short time now ask 2000 or 3000. Depends on the girl. 1 week I'm in Pattaya I fucked only 3 ladies. 1 lady in Wraeth Bar Soi 6, and she wanted 2000. Then during 3 days impossible to find one sexy lady. And only yesterday was a great! I was desperate, because I walekd everywhere in Pattaya and only Ugly ladies, fat ladies, old ladies. I don't want what you think but I'm good looking guy, and seriousely, if I ve to pay to fuck some ladies, I want fuck sexy ladies. Not ugly ladies.
In Colombia now, each time I go there I fuck very sexy ladies and it's much more cheaper than Pattaya now. Everything increased a lot in Pattaya since Covid, and the quality is not there anymore. Even in Body Massage in Soi honey, I was there 5 minutes, I just entered and I see ladies who are all about 40, fat and ugly. And only indians there as customers.
Finally yesterday around 6 pm, after wallking 10 km, in a bar in Soi 7 near the beach, I found 1 young sexy lady, 20 years old already busy with an australian customer who was in the 50. All the other ladies were ugly and waiting in front of the bar ther customers. And other ladies asked me to pay there some drinks and I replied I want the young lady and they told me sh's busy so she can't be with me and they were not polite because they know they lady is sexy and she got all the cutomers and they don't work. So I told to the lady I'll wait she finish with the guy. I went to the mamasan of the bar and I asked her if it's possible to meet her or not. And she told me I ve to wait she finished with the australien boy. But I didn't want to wait for nothing, I asked her if she was going to go with him for short time or long time and mamasan told me she never do long time, only short time. So I decided to take a drink and wait in the bar. After 30 minutes, the australien guy was still with her paying her some lady drinks and I asked the mamasan to directly ask the girl if she s ok to fuck with me or not because I was boring to wait for nothing. Then the australian guy saw I watend fuck her too and he decided to bookher for short time. Mamasan told me to wait 1 h more. The sexy lady aw I waiting for her in the bar and when theu australien guy was ready to pay the sexy lady go alone to the bar for chceck the bill and give the 500 for the barfine. Csutomer was waiting. I didn't care I went directly to the bar and asked the girl if she's ok to boom boom with me because she's verty sexy. She was alreadt drunk little bit, because I think the guy paid her more than 5 drinks at 190 bahts and she was smoking some weeds. She told me to wait her 30 min, because she told me she ll go in a room of the bar with the guy and will come back for me. I was very happy I directly kissed her and the guy saw me doing this, he was not very happy. So then I was waiting her in the bar and she came back after 45 min. The guy left and wasn't very happy. But now she was with me, she asked me some drinks. I paid her 3 drinks at 190 bahts. But I don't regret, because she let me touch her everywhere and kissed her. The mamasan and other ladies saw everything and idn't say nothing. She was sitting on me and I even masturbate her pussy and and I put my finger inside her pussy and then she told me we should go to the room. She asked me 3000 for ST, I wanted pay 2000 but she told me all the men are OK for 3000 and she never go for less 3000. So I said OK, I payd the drink plus 500 for the barfine. And we go to the room. I was fucking horny, we didn't took any shower, I fucked her directly with her sexy dress on her. She asked me to put a condom but I didn't have any condom. I propsed her 500 more and she told me no it's not enough, she wanted 2000 more and she finally agree for 1000. I fucked her in all the positions during maybe 40 good minutes and I came inside her pussy. She was not happy about that and told me now finish. She went to the shower. I go with her. I clean herp ussy and body. And she told me I ve very big and she saw I was still horny. Then I turn her on the wall of the shower, and I put my dick again in her pussy. She told me, no now it's finish! Time over! But I told her I just want to fuck her 2 minutes more. And she let me do and I came a second time in her pussy.
Mr Enternational
08-08-25, 13:07
OMG I'm in Pattaya right now! And seriousely, it's very difficult now to find a sexy young girl! Only yesterday night I fucked a sexy lady. But during 3 days, I was walking everyday in Pattaya, I walked about 15 km, and impossible to find 1 sexy lady.Seems you are using a 1985 monger strategy in 2025. The game is online now.
You mentioned Colombia. The game is even online in Colombia. I know you are not walking 15 km there.
........ A plain looking 30-something woman on a Thai dating site found me and was offering herself for marriage. Sin sod was $5,000,000 (USD), which soon got changed to $10,000,000. After marriage, she was requiring 50,000 baht be sent to family monthly, in exchange she would do the cooking for me, but she wouldn't clean the house. If sent 100,000 baht monthly to family, she would also do the house cleaning.Ha ha, dude you're better off with a plain looking 30-something white western woman than with that!
CaliTraveler
08-09-25, 05:35
In Pattaya, I walked about 15 km, and impossible to find 1 sexy lady. Even in Soi 6 now, it's very difficult and prices on the lady drink increased a lot. Now it's 180/190 bahts per lady drink, most ofthe girls don't want LT but ST and they want you fuck them in a room in the bar. Before covid a room was 300 and now it's 400 min. Ladies for short time now ask 2000 or 3000. Depends on the girl. 1 week I'm in Pattaya I fucked only 3 ladies. 1 lady in Wraeth Bar Soi 6, and she wanted 2000. Then during 3 days impossible to find one sexy lady. And only yesterday was a great! I was desperate, because I walked everywhere in Pattaya and only Ugly ladies, fat ladies, old ladies.
This is a low season in Thailand where girls rather go home and help out their old ones (my understanding is that those bar girls are mostly from rural areas of Thailand, Laos and Cambodia) and spend time working at hotspots like Phuket, Koh Samui, Pattaya or BKK in a high season which is October- April, they make their money and either get married to a westerner or go home to help out their families and the only ones that are stuck in those places are poor creatures that didn't make any money during the high season. My advice is come back around Christmas, it's going to be as hot as ever.
This is a low season in Thailand where girls rather go home and help out their old ones (my understanding is that those bar girls are mostly from rural areas of Thailand, Laos and Cambodia) and spend time working at hotspots like Phuket, Koh Samui, Pattaya or BKK in a high season which is October- April, they make their money and either get married to a westerner or go home to help out their families and the only ones that are stuck in those places are poor creatures that didn't make any money during the high season. My advice is come back around Christmas, it's going to be as hot as ever.Not true, you're repeating the usual stereotypes.
Not all girls are giving credit to high or low season. Only the hardcore pros are giving a fuck about that, but there are still girls discovering the place everyday, or girls that discovered it not long ago, took a break and just came back because they were missing the excitement of working the bars in Pattaya.
During my last trip, I've met two young girls that I would rate excellent for both of them (both girls were from Bkk, not from rural Thailand, and both were newcomers in Pattaya). They left around the same time as I did (early June), took a 6 or 7 weeks of rest and came back at the same time around two weeks ago to work the same bar they were initially working in. One of them has already been snatched up it seems, but the other is still working the bar.
My advice is come back around Christmas, it's going to be as hot as ever.But then you're competing with all the other multitude of visitors/residents in town who are also looking for that "sexy lady. " If you have a choice between low and high, go for low season and less competition. In either season though, you can find sexy girls, you just have to look in the right places.
Explorer8939
08-10-25, 14:21
20 years ago, bargirls were thinner, had fewer tattoos, and no smartphones.
Today, the average Bargirl is older and has a belly.
But the top 10% today are much hotter than 20 years ago. Cosmetic surgery has come a long way in Thailand in 20 years.
Jabskiiler
08-10-25, 22:11
Beach Road! Walk on the sidewalk on the beach side after dark say Hi to the many ladies. 1000 baht is the going rate for short time. Make sure to asking if the are a lady or ladyboy if you don't want a surprise. They will let you know.
Palotieso93
08-11-25, 16:52
Hello everyone,
I've bought my flight to Thailand. I want to experience this at least once in my life.
I have a few questions, see if you can help me.
Do prostitutes normally have sex without a condom if you don't say anything, or is it just some of them?
How easily do they agree to do it without a condom?
I need to know how it works.
Thank you very much in advance.
Palotieso93
08-11-25, 18:17
Hello dear forum members.
I've already booked my flights, I can't miss out on experiencing something like this once in my lifetime.
I have a few questions, I've read several different points of view and I'm still not very clear on things. See if you can help me.
The prostitutes in Soi 6, Walking Street, etc. Is it normal that if you don't say anything, they'll have sex without a condom? Or is it the opposite? Or maybe some do, others don't?
I guess if you negotiate, almost all of them are willing, but if you don't have condoms, will they do it without condom bareback?
If you can give me some insight, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
Hello everyone,
I've bought my flight to Thailand. I want to experience this at least once in my life.
I have a few questions, see if you can help me.
Do prostitutes normally have sex without a condom if you don't say anything, or is it just some of them?
How easily do they agree to do it without a condom?
I need to know how it works.
Thank you very much in advance.In my last trip to Pattaya (Jan 2025), more and more girls ask or expect a condom. However, BBFS (bare service) can usually be had for a bit more money. Here are 3 examples: 1. One bar girl had a condom, but when I asked for bare, she agreed for 500 baht more. 2. one bar girl had a condom, and I asked for bare for more money, but she refused. 3. One girl in a gentlemen's club had a condom and we started that way, but I was not able to finish. I told her sometimes I can't finish with a condom and she pulled the condom off and slid me back into her!
All possibilities exist, but generally bare service can be had. Note: When I visit Pattaya I take doxycycline after every bare encounter to help avoid std's.
Jabskiiler
08-12-25, 00:15
Hello everyone,
I've bought my flight to Thailand. I want to experience this at least once in my life.
I have a few questions, see if you can help me.
Do prostitutes normally have sex without a condom if you don't say anything, or is it just some of them?
How easily do they agree to do it without a condom?
I need to know how it works.
Thank you very much in advance.Most up to you or 500 baht more. For BJ uncovered is the norm. I would recommend using condom-senses for FS.
Do prostitutes normally have sex without a condom if you don't say anything, or is it just some of them?
How easily do they agree to do it without a condom? I was in BKK not Pattaya. Not sure if Pattaya is different. Of the 17 encounters I had, 4 were no condom.
1 was a drunk bar girl. It was a pretty passionate session and condom wasn't mentioned at all. I really appreciated her willingness and was satisfied to make a game time decision to pull out at the last moment.
1 was a masseuse on TF that came to my room. She gave BBBJ then asked if I had a condom. I played it cool and said "I don't really need it. " She said OK and that was that, BBFSCIP.
1 was an oily massage parlor girl. She asked, I said I'm fine without it. The session was already pretty heated and she just sank down on me. Another BBFSCIP.
Last was another in room massage, but BBBJCIM. She didn't offer full service.
The rest of the girls were firm about condoms.
My understanding from research here is:
If you go with the flow, it could be 25%.
Repeat encounters will increase odds as she gets comfortable with you.
Alcohol alcohol alcohol (lady drinks hahaha).
HorseTrader
08-12-25, 01:02
Hello everyone,
I've bought my flight to Thailand. I want to experience this at least once in my life.
I have a few questions, see if you can help me.
Do prostitutes normally have sex without a condom if you don't say anything, or is it just some of them?
How easily do they agree to do it without a condom?
I need to know how it works.
Thank you very much in advance.My experience has been about 1/3 will offer BBFS without surcharge, another 1/3 will offer BBFS with a surcharge (anywhere from 500 to 4000 baht surcharge), and about 1/3 will not offer BBFS regardless of price. A few will offer BBFS if you promise to finish outside. Some will "require" finish outside after you are already inside. I'm a big, fat, old farang, so my success rate is probably lower than young, handsome men. These percentages are based on my overall experience in Thailand; much more than just Pattaya.
You need to decide if you are going to negotiate no condom in advance or if you are going to accept whatever is available in the room. If you do advance negotiations, be sure to specify CIP ("no condom, finish inside". Don't negotiate BBFS where her friends can hear, she might not want others to know that she does BBFS. Expect to use your translator, many won't understand your language. I agree with Josh Allen that your chances of no condom are higher on 2nd or 3rd session with any particular girl.
LittleBigMan
08-12-25, 02:45
But then you're competing with all the other multitude of visitors/residents in town who are also looking for that "sexy lady. " If you have a choice between low and high, go for low season and less competition. In either season though, you can find sexy girls, you just have to look in the right places.Run Man, where you been hope all is well?
Explorer8939
08-12-25, 05:17
Hello everyone,
I've bought my flight to Thailand. I want to experience this at least once in my life.
I have a few questions, see if you can help me.
Do prostitutes normally have sex without a condom if you don't say anything, or is it just some of them?
How easily do they agree to do it without a condom?
I need to know how it works.
Thank you very much in advance.It depends how many groups of Indian men they have done recently. If they have a sore pussy from gangbangs, they may not want to use a condom.
Some ladies in my rotation have too many customers, so I insist on a condom.
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