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Mr Enternational
09-20-10, 11:13
Guys, common, i think we are over this India thing for pleasure ride...there is no place like Pattaya on earth. Period.You said a mouthful brother. I mongered in Congress House in Mumbai a few years back. I had a headache from arguing with the pimps for trying to pull the bait and switch over and over and over again. Not to mention them begging for tips. I am in Angeles City right now, but I am counting the days until I arrive in Pattaya. Damn that Pattaya is something serious.
So 1800 for massage and sex in a small oily massage joint?He could of gone to one of the soapy places for that.
Hi I have never see this place. Don't know if I would go in but would love to know more about how to find it "back woods".Sorry for the late reply, Hotshanehot. There is a map attached to a previous report of mine: 1015330
... I finally mongered at the infamous "back woods" joint at the end of Walking Street that Goyave told us about. Now I can say that I've done it and there is no need to return...I'm glad to see that not only several ISG members (you and a few others) have dared to venture in this area, but also have written very good reports about it in this forum since I submitted my own modest contribution! Kudos, guys!
After reading all of the reports of the wooded area near the end of Walking Street I decided to check it out myself...
... All in all I did it for the experience-for 180 baht and a bottle of water.Great report, Showdown! Just for your and other members' information, for the older girls such as the one shown in your "hardoneyes.jpg" picture, the regular rate is 100 baht only for a BBBJ or CBJ in this area. It's the younger and more attractive ones who charge 200 baht for a blowjob there. Anyway, you've got quite a deal with the second provider who accepted your bottle of water as payment! Amazing Thailand, indeed!
I spend a few months every year in India for business. It is absolutely not worth it as a mongering destination. Full stop end of discussion!
In a Land of cheap clean available women why would you even try this thing is beyond me...To each their own, and as stated earlier, this place is not for the faint of heart, but only for adventurous people going there at their own risks.
It has its advantages though: not only you can get (for instance) a very cheap (covered, if you wish) blowjob, but there usually are a couple of providers available even early in the morning (at that time of the day, there is not many alternatives). When I have not kept a girl for a LT session the previous night, I like to have a quick morning release there. That's mainly why I sometimes visit this area when I'm in Pattaya.
Hi all
I have been going to Pattaya in Thailand for 17 years now my best holiday was my first holiday which was in 1994 but I think now it is getting very exspensive. Walking street go-go bars most are charging 85 baht for a so called half pint which I find exspensive. A roast beef or roast lamb dinner from 195 baht this could be due to the exchange rate. A few years ago I was getting between 65 to 69 baht to the english pound and thats about 30 baht to the american dollar so the exchange rat does play a part but as the thai baht exchange goes down the prices are going up. One off the smaller go-go bars was charging 600 baht bar fine. I don't know about soi 6 but I think that this must be the best place in Pattaya for cheap sex. You can still get a bottle
Bottle off bear in a beer bar some open 24 hours for 50 baht. So if your thinking about coming over here make sure you have plenty off cash as I think
Prices have doubled. As I have said before its the exchange rate thats crap.
Also at this time off year it is very quiet at least 50% off the girls have gone to Bangkok and the rest are about 5/6 out off 10 so nothing exciting except a few sexy go go girls which can cost you a fortune.
New Old Guy
09-20-10, 13:36
Pull the broomstick off your ass :)
As a precautionary measure I would the name of a clinic in Pattaya in case I come down with a dose of something.
Any recommendations?
Second. I want to host a dinner for four friends/relatives that will be in Pattaya with me. A nice resteraunt with good food where we can also smoke some cigars.
Thank you.
New Old Guy
09-20-10, 19:55
I think everyone will agree that the best medical facility in Pattaya is the Bangcock Hospital. It is also where you will be brougth if you can't express a different will.
Recently I accompanied a slightly hipocondriac friend as he had a cold and wanted a shot to cure it. Nowhere in the world I have ever seen a so meticously ordered and well kept facility, from the front desk to the ER. We went around midnight and he had to wait quite a long time but after all this guy didn't really had anything :)
After seeing the doctors, he goes to the pharmacy desk to get his prescribed drugs. They gave him all kinds of shit in copious quantities, painkillers, antibiotics, antistaminics, anti-inflammatory, you name it. I think that is a very bad medical practice but I would be digressing. The bill came to some 4,000 and some B, paid after the visit. I asked the young pharmacy associate if Thailand is doing something on the matter of medical marijhuana, to the only effect of placing him in deep embarassment.
Of course as soon we were outside, I told him to not even think taking any of that, and gulp down multiple shots of vodka instead and just pass the germs to the next girl.
Curiously. this is the same friend that fell with from scooter some months ago, he did go to a different clinic closer to Beach Rd, the treatments was also good for a reasonable price.
I think everyone will agree that the best medical facility in Pattaya is the Bangcock Hospital.
I can't agree. I was prescribed wrong medication for an illness. I can vouch for Bumrungrad in bkk, however.
As a precautionary measure I would the name of a clinic in Pattaya in case I come down with a dose of something.
Any recommendations?
Thank you.
For run of the mill problems, I can recommend Dr Belen clinic,, off Sai 2 just up from the Bangkok Bank in Pattaya Klang. Lovely Phillipine Doctor.
You won't be charged 4000bt there for treatment for a cold!!!
Triple Input
09-20-10, 22:21
I am heading to Pattaya in October and will be staying at the Nova Platinum Hotel. I would like to get an in call massage but I don't want the normal rub and tug. I want a full 5 star 2 hour massage then with the HJ at the end. I have heard that this place has a spa but after looking at the internet it doesn't, can any conform this? Also I would like to stop by a hair salon and get a hair but plus get my pubic hair trimmer shorter too, any ideas on a place?
Thanks for the help!
Lover Boy #2
09-21-10, 04:18
I think everyone will agree that the best medical facility in Pattaya is the Bangcock Hospital. (did he say Bangcock?)
Uh....no......many scandals.....including a horror show ending in the death of a local farang school teacher injured on a motorsai v. cement truck....real bad, over priced place....with very little investigation and responsibility on things gone very, very bad (i.e. your death and explanation of what happened to family). (The man was transported to Sattahip on a pick up truck bleeding to death (they couldn't find his insurance coverage card). Things are forgotten quickly in Land of Smiles.
Also see this;
http://www.escapefromamerica.com/2010/04/healthcare-in-thailand/
Asian Fetish
09-21-10, 04:49
Anyway, another night in Pattaya and I was determined to find someone I'm really looking for. So I was combing the gogo's for that special someone when walking past hooty's in walking street I saw her. Standing outside the club wearing a body hugging grey dress, hostess dress.
She was excactely what I've been looking for, short, about 5'tall or under, dark skin, pettite but shapely figure and walked great which is always a turn on for me. Her name was Geegi and as mentioned works as a hostess at the club. I liked her as soon as I saw her, bought her a drink, chatted alittle asked her how much bar fine and for herself. 600 for bar and 2000lt for her, I can live with that I thought and we were away in a flash.
So this is where it begins, she asks me what I have planned to which I replied we'll quickly grab some kebabs from my favourite street vendor, acouple of drinks from 7/11, head up to my room and fuck!. She says sounds like a good idea but., its too early yet and suggests we maybe have acouple of drinks at a beerbar. Anything that makes you happy I said and with that she go's on to say her family has just opened a beerbar at one of the large complex's at the end of walking street and we should go there for some drinks. I should of seen this coming I said to myself but I figured acouple of drinks won't hurt.
Well, sitting there with drink in hand and her yip yaking to the old lady behind the bar I was getting bored also getting harrassed every 20 minutes for tips from the thai boxes when finishing their rounds in the ring. I really didn't mind this cause they were actually good fighters and putting on a good show, but what really got up my nose was when a few guys were entering the complex my girl for the night was welcoming them in and trying to entice them to sit at the bar we're at. I thought to myself, hang on a second *****, I paid your barfine and taken you out, your mine for the night. If you want your family's friend bar to succeed maybe he should get some young attractive girls behind the counter and not some old wrinkly 50 yearold pouring drinks. So with that thought, I paid bin and told her we leave now, she asked 'now', I just nodded my head, grabbed her hand and left without leaving a tip which they were expecting.
Back to the room and we showered and affectionately went to bed where we caressed and kissed to get me going. I went down and gave her a thorough tongue lashing to which she came, as I came up from between her legs she was looking at me with satisfaction and disbelieve, told me 'thankyou' with a soft voice then turned around, curled up and went to sleep. 'What the fuck' was my first reaction, but then I realised that the poor darling might need some rest after the entre, so decided to let her sleep alittle, turned on the tv and waited my turn.
4 fucking hours later and she's still sleeping, I was upset and I was going to wake her by sticking my cock up her ass when I thought up a better idea, I'll wait until around 5ish in the morning before I kick her out. Thats excactly what I did and as I ushered her out the door she was looking at me and expecting something, such as money, which I just closed the door behind her. As far as I was concerned the money she was expecting was spent at her family's freind's bar on drinks, while I only bought her three beers and two cokes for myself but thats how I felt, hopefully the next night will turn out better I hoped.
I am heading to Pattaya in October and will be staying at the Nova Platinum Hotel. I would like to get an in call massage but I don't want the normal rub and tug. I want a full 5 star 2 hour massage then with the HJ at the end. I have heard that this place has a spa but after looking at the internet it doesn't, can any conform this? Also I would like to stop by a hair salon and get a hair but plus get my pubic hair trimmer shorter too, any ideas on a place?
Thanks for the help!
NP has in-room massage service and you can top it off with more than just a HJ but it you have to negotiate with the girl for that special treatment. Eden’s Massage has some qualified (outcall) masseuses but they won't offer kind of special service and doubtful you would want any such service from them too.
OK. Now back home. Bit jetlagged, but up and running. Back to reality. Glad for it too. Too much reality a bad thing, as is too much fantasy. Need a bit of both to keep sane. This is my final report on the last two days of Pattaya. My goal for these last days of my 5 week break was three gals a day. The day before I did only two, so had bit of catching up to do.
After my usual 3 eggs and coffee breakfast, decided to find a gal. Took half a vit C tablet two days ago, so decided to take the second half, and went off. Now, for Beach Road, I am a virgin. Never done a BR gal. However, it was about 10:30 and to keep this pace I needed action immediately. Saw this one gal. Figure 32 – 35, cute, and looked experienced. She near the Subway sandwich area. Asked her where a short time hotel was, and she took me to a place across the way to 2nd Road, just north of Kiss Me restaurant. It was hidden, and I never knew this place existed. Cost 120 baht, and she graciously paid 20 baht for me.
Now, I’ve been doing Pattaya since about 1997 or 1998. Had well over a thousand different girls. This gal was easily in the top one percent. Without asking, an incredible rim job, perhaps the best I’ve ever had; let’s see … rusty trombone, and lots of anal – she guided my pecker right to her ass. She had a nice large bubble butt too. Very sexy. In the end she asked me if I Italian, because in her words “Italian men always large and like ass boom boom”. Gee, I never knew that myself – like to learn something new every day, eh. Well, as far as I know, am not Italian, but do love pizza and spaghetti. She told me that she worked massage and proceeded to massage all ten … urrrr eleven of my fingers, and all four … five of my limbs. It my regret that I did not take her phone or picture. She was truly outstanding, and far and away the best sex I’ve had on this trip -- and many others. Paid her 600 baht, and she was thrilled.
About 7:PM was walking around pump station. Gal who worked at some bar near there practically dragged me into the place. She told me that she did work at one of those pump station type bars (forgot the name, but not Pump Station, and she remembered blowing me. Gee, how romantic. She nearly dragged me up stairs, and told me 1000 baht. I never understood the point of those bars near that area. Apparently they are attached to short time rooms. She told me no customers at all, and she did not have sex for two months. Well, who knows if she had no sex in two months or two minutes, but she was an absolute demon in the sack; a great time. Place had a shower. Way out she wanted me to pay 300 extra for bar fine “because you take long time.” I told her, she said 1000 baht, and she relented. All good.
I walked out of there at 8:30 in a bit of a daze, and a massage gal right next door to that bar offered me massage for 200 and hand job for 500. I said not 20 minutes ago just blew a load, and no way a hand job would be possible. She said then OK, 200 baht for massage only, and if she gets me off cost is 700 baht. OK. How could I refuse that. We went upstairs. It was a sliding door, and room had a massage table and a shower. There was a sign in the room which read “No Prostitution”; damn wish I took a picture of that sign. My bad. She gave a nice massage on my back and then turned me over. She quickly woke up Little Popper and went to town. She offered a BJ and / or FS for 1000 in total (include massage). I thanked her but refused her kind offer.
After the massage w/ happy was completely worn out. Could hardly walk. Went to one of my favorite gogos. To my surprise, my favorite gal in all Pattaya still there. She in her 30s, face and body about a 7, never banged her. Just love her laid back attitude on life. We relaxed and yes I bought her an LD. Yea, OK. I am a sucker. However to be clear, I see the purpose of the Church of LDs and BFs are for Suckers, Tourists, and Noobs as allowing for more freedom, and not less. I myself in last five weeks bought that one LD, no BFs. Last trip of five weeks in Pattaya bought no LDs or BFs. Around last Christmas I got one gal an LD and then BFed her. Suspect last summer made have bought a few LDs and a BF. Do not recall. Will go into greater details of this Phil when I write up the Popper Hotel Report. Anyway, after I bought her the LD, we spend about two hours together, chitchat, and the rest. I really do like this gal, and feel bad for her. In the end I got her the one LD, cash 400 baht, and all she had to do was relax and be her beautiful self.
Friend of mine picked me up at the gogo, and we drove to Mexican restaurant. It was 11:30 PM and only Blue Parrot was open. We relaxed, and great Mexican. Later on that evening hit Marine, and there was a stunningly beautiful gal there. We talked a bit, and only thing I could say is that she had an ass I wanted to stick my tongue up. I mean it looked that sexy. Asked how much and she said 1000 for LT. I agreed, and then said “or 500 for ST.” She paused, thought a bit and then said “no, meant 1000 for ST.” I joked with her about it, offered her 700 which she refused, and kissed her on the cheek, told her that I loved her, and parted. Then walked a bit around found another gal. She worked at some barbeer. She wanted me to BF her, and I refused. Offered her 600, and she said OK, and that I should wait around the corner from her bar for 5 minutes so she could get released. She looked good and I agreed. While waiting, of course tried to find other gals, but nothing had my interest. After 10 minutes, I decided to leave. Walking to Pattaya Beer Gardens, found this one gal along the way. She was small. Nice breasts. Bit plump. 500, OK, let’s go.
When she got to my hotel, she took off clothes. She had way more belly fat than I thought. She looked pregnant, and her stomach had major child birth scars. That, and those tits just sagging there; a complete turn off. Just uninterested. After a few efforts, nothing came up, and I just gave her 500 baht, thanked her, and told her to leave. After three times that day, I really needed something more stimulating to go a fourth round. Complete bust. Oh well, live and learn. Perhaps since this my last evening there should have taken that original gal who wanted 1000 baht. Too late.
Was going to sleep when decided to text one of my favorite gals. At 26 years she has a great bod and great in the sack. She immediately offered LT. Agreed. Made for the perfect sleep medication, cause after I banged her, out like a light. The Vit C must have still been active, because about 11:30 AM Little Popper was up yet again, and she gave her usual stellar performance. Told her I’d miss her forever and gave her 1000 baht, and well after noon she left. She did not want her picture taken, but I snapped it as she was leaving (see pic 1).
This was the last day. Figured I’d end it with a bang: A 3-some. Needed two girls. First I had to grab breakfast (three eggs and coffee) and prep a cab. Cab to airport was 1000 baht and included tolls. Agreed to be at my hotel at 6:PM. Texted a gal who a sexual dynamo in the sack. She is mid-20s and had a kid (her stomach bit of a mess). Told her to meet me with her friend at my hotel at 3:30. Considering all the gals I had that day, did not know if I could handle a 3-some, but figured I’d try. She, ding-dong, arrived at 4:00 and I nearly left to find two gals from BR. However, she arrived with another gal who was really sexy. Both went to my room, but her friend did not want the 3-some with her friend. She thought that I had a friend for her to have as separate, rather than a straight 3-some. She wanted to wait in the lobby and she would come up after. Ummmm, OK. My gal was just so into it. From my experience, you all can keep your 3000 baht ST go-go gals with their dead fish attitudes. I’ll take bit cheaper gals, not as good looking, but stellar performances. This gal is one of my steadies (see pic2) has a kid, but a great lay. Anyway, she left my room at 5:10 and promised me her cute friend. Got a call. Apparently her friend was not interested in cumming up. Who knows the bla bla bla. Just as well, since I had bit of final packing to do, and did not think I could bang again anyway. As is, was completely dry on cum.
For this trip, all to report. Now that back in the Real World, and will begin writing the Popper Hotel Report. Have a lot of information to go through. Could be over a hundred hotels in this list, and will need time to organize it all. Will also write a lengthy intro will I suspect will include much of my Phil on the church of BFs and LDs are for Noobs, Suckers, and Tourists and other thoughts / experiences.
… damn I had a terrible time in Pattaya.
--Popper
The world would be a better place if there were more wh0re houses and less churches.
He could of gone to one of the soapy places for that.
Well, I figured it's about the same as Snow White etc in Bangkok, so OK .. but it sounds like I've been had ..
Triple Input
09-21-10, 15:46
Right on, thanks for the help!
NP has in-room massage service and you can top it off with more than just a HJ but it you have to negotiate with the girl for that special treatment. Eden’s Massage has some qualified (outcall) masseuses but they won't offer kind of special service and doubtful you would want any such service from them too.
Majestic1967
09-21-10, 19:18
Hey Popper,
I have read all of your reports since day one, They were extremely entertaining. I'm still waiting for you hotel report. I'll be arriving in Pattaya on September 29. And I'm really looking forward in reading your report. Base on your report I will select the best hotel for my Holiday.
Thank You
For this trip, all to report. Now that back in the Real World, and will begin writing the Popper Hotel Report. Have a lot of information to go through. Could be over a hundred hotels in this list, and will need time to organize it all. Will also write a lengthy intro will I suspect will include much of my Phil on the church of BFs and LDs are for Noobs, Suckers, and Tourists and other thoughts / experiences.
Damn I had a terrible time in Pattaya.
-Popper
The world would be a better place if there were more wh0re houses and less churches.
New Old Guy
09-21-10, 19:42
Apologies for talking BS about hospitals ...
Your comments make sense also looking at ridiculous amount of drugs prescribed to my friend.
As a precautionary measure I would the name of a clinic in Pattaya in case I come down with a dose of something.
Any recommendations?
Thank you.I recommend Pattaya Memorial Hospital (in walking reach of Soi 7).
Hey guys, on the fast track again. Hitting Thailand in two weeks. Going to be in the Pattaya area. I will be doing the walking street thing, apprehensive about the lady boy thing, but I have heard that the soapy parlors / massage parlors only staff girls. Any good solid recommendations?
My preffered style is the full shower thing with massage, full service, optional take out, with good spa style facilities. Anything come to mind-?
Maxinlondon
09-22-10, 11:37
Having a short one week holiday in Pattaya and after 3 days I feel like to give my humble contribution to the general knowledge of this thread.
I'm staying in Soi 4, Bella Villa Prima Hotel. The hotel is okish, price acceptable, and extremely relaxed about guest policy. I have several girls in my room at different time of the day and of the night and no problems so far.
First day I was dragged in a bar in 2nd road near the hotel (between soi 4 and soi 5) and after a drink I left with the girl who was serving me. Bar fee 350 Bh, 500 Bh for the girl s/t. Satisfied? Yes. Would repeat? Nope.
2nd day I went to Beach Road. Quality of the girls is varied. Some very ugly, some acceptable, a few gems. Found a tiny young girl, I thought she was 18 but she told me 26, I believe her. First we went for a drink in a bar in soi 6 she knew. Paid her 2 beers, one for mamasan and a coke for me. Then we went to my hotel for an extremely satisfying section. After some sleep tried for a second one, but no way I could! We went out for having dinner in a place she knew (again!) and again she asked me to buy a drink for the restaurant mamasan!
After dinner she wanted to stay with me all night but I prefer to sleep alone and paid her and left.
500 Bh for drinks
500 Bh for dinner
1000 Bh for her
Total 2000 Bh for almost a full day service with a very pretty girl.
Satisfied: yes
Would repeat? Maybe not
3rd day I went to Soi 6 and and met 2 beautiful eyes...
No English spoken but nice smile and good attitude.
300 Bh Bar fee
200 Bh Drinks
500 Bh for her s/t
Total 1000 Bh
Satisfied: yes
Would repeat: maybe
Tonight I want to try again my luck in Beach Road, if not I will go back to Soi 6 and bar fee a cute one.
My advises:
dont be in a rush when you chose a girl in Pattaya. The offer vastly exceeds the demand! You will always find someone you fancy.
walking street has the best girl but the prices are double than in other places. Second best is soi 6 with acceptable prices. Beach road is the cheapest but you must do some research as the quality varies a lot.
Be careful about other bars. The prices are the same as in soi 6 but the quality is generally low. With the occasional exception.
Appreciate. But no way Popper Hotel Report will be completed by then. Why would you do Pattaya anyway? As you can tell from my posts, just hated the place. Horrible place. Not recommended at all.
Oops ...
"The world would be a better place with more wh0re houses and less churches."
Popper
Hey Popper,
I have read all of your reports since day one, They were extremely entertaining. I'm still waiting for you hotel report. I'll be arriving in Pattaya on September 29. And I'm really looking forward in reading your report. Base on your report I will select the best hotel for my Holiday.
Thank You
Appreciate. But no way Popper Hotel Report will be completed by then. Why would you do Pattaya anyway? As you can tell from my posts, just hated the place. Horrible place. Not recommended at all.
Oops ...
"The world would be a better place with more wh0re houses and less churches."
--PopperPopper,
Even I am a huge fan off yours, after reading those reports. Regarding popper hotel reports you can at least start with the best hotels first and latter on adding the worst and acceptable hotels. So that people traveling now can have a pleasure of your facilitation of your long experience.
Great report. Only needed to add "hooty's avoid Geegi" in my palm phone.
178. 162. 182. 149 Anyway, another night in Pattaya and I was determined to find someone I'm really looking for. So I was combing the gogo's for that special someone when walking past hooty's in walking street I saw her. Standing outside the club wearing a body hugging grey dress, hostess dress.
She was excactely what I've been looking for, short, about 5'tall or under, dark skin, pettite but shapely figure and walked great which is always a turn on for me. Her name was Geegi and as mentioned works as a hostess at the club. I liked her as soon as I saw her, bought her a drink, chatted alittle asked her how much bar fine and for herself. 600 for bar and 2000lt for her, I can live with that I thought and we were away in a flash.
So this is where it begins, she asks me what I have planned to which I replied we'll quickly grab some kebabs from my favourite street vendor, acouple of drinks from 7/11, head up to my room and fuck!. She says sounds like a good idea but., its too early yet and suggests we maybe have acouple of drinks at a beerbar. Anything that makes you happy I said and with that she go's on to say her family has just opened a beerbar at one of the large complex's at the end of walking street and we should go there for some drinks. I should of seen this coming I said to myself but I figured acouple of drinks won't hurt.
Well, sitting there with drink in hand and her yip yaking to the old lady behind the bar I was getting bored also getting harrassed every 20 minutes for tips from the thai boxes when finishing their rounds in the ring. I really didn't mind this cause they were actually good fighters and putting on a good show, but what really got up my nose was when a few guys were entering the complex my girl for the night was welcoming them in and trying to entice them to sit at the bar we're at. I thought to myself, hang on a second *****, I paid your barfine and taken you out, your mine for the night. If you want your family's friend bar to succeed maybe he should get some young attractive girls behind the counter and not some old wrinkly 50 yearold pouring drinks. So with that thought, I paid bin and told her we leave now, she asked 'now', I just nodded my head, grabbed her hand and left without leaving a tip which they were expecting.
Back to the room and we showered and affectionately went to bed where we caressed and kissed to get me going. I went down and gave her a thorough tongue lashing to which she came, as I came up from between her legs she was looking at me with satisfaction and disbelieve, told me 'thankyou' with a soft voice then turned around, curled up and went to sleep. 'What the fuck' was my first reaction, but then I realised that the poor darling might need some rest after the entre, so decided to let her sleep alittle, turned on the tv and waited my turn.
4 fucking hours later and she's still sleeping, I was upset and I was going to wake her by sticking my cock up her ass when I thought up a better idea, I'll wait until around 5ish in the morning before I kick her out. Thats excactly what I did and as I ushered her out the door she was looking at me and expecting something, such as money, which I just closed the door behind her. As far as I was concerned the money she was expecting was spent at her family's freind's bar on drinks, while I only bought her three beers and two cokes for myself but thats how I felt, hopefully the next night will turn out better I hoped.
Hello,
Do you know any pharmacy in Pattaya or Bangkok which sells HIV Self-Tests?
Up to now I did not find any in Thailand.
In Malaysia there are several, as you can see on the following link:
http://www.hivtest.com.my/pharmacies.php
178. 162. 182. 149 Anyway, another night in Pattaya and I was determined to find someone I'm really looking for. So I was combing the gogo's for that special someone when walking past hooty's in walking street I saw her. Standing outside the club wearing a body hugging grey dress, hostess dress.
She was excactely what I've been looking for, short, about 5'tall or under, dark skin, pettite but shapely figure and walked great which is always a turn on for me. Her name was Geegi and as mentioned works as a hostess at the club. I liked her as soon as I saw her, bought her a drink, chatted alittle asked her how much bar fine and for herself. 600 for bar and 2000lt for her, I can live with that I thought and we were away in a flash.
So this is where it begins, she asks me what I have planned to which I replied we'll quickly grab some kebabs from my favourite street vendor, acouple of drinks from 7/11, head up to my room and fuck!. She says sounds like a good idea but., its too early yet and suggests we maybe have acouple of drinks at a beerbar. Anything that makes you happy I said and with that she go's on to say her family has just opened a beerbar at one of the large complex's at the end of walking street and we should go there for some drinks. I should of seen this coming I said to myself but I figured acouple of drinks won't hurt.
Well, sitting there with drink in hand and her yip yaking to the old lady behind the bar I was getting bored also getting harrassed every 20 minutes for tips from the thai boxes when finishing their rounds in the ring. I really didn't mind this cause they were actually good fighters and putting on a good show, but what really got up my nose was when a few guys were entering the complex my girl for the night was welcoming them in and trying to entice them to sit at the bar we're at. I thought to myself, hang on a second *****, I paid your barfine and taken you out, your mine for the night. If you want your family's friend bar to succeed maybe he should get some young attractive girls behind the counter and not some old wrinkly 50 yearold pouring drinks. So with that thought, I paid bin and told her we leave now, she asked 'now', I just nodded my head, grabbed her hand and left without leaving a tip which they were expecting.
Back to the room and we showered and affectionately went to bed where we caressed and kissed to get me going. I went down and gave her a thorough tongue lashing to which she came, as I came up from between her legs she was looking at me with satisfaction and disbelieve, told me 'thankyou' with a soft voice then turned around, curled up and went to sleep. 'What the fuck' was my first reaction, but then I realised that the poor darling might need some rest after the entre, so decided to let her sleep alittle, turned on the tv and waited my turn.
4 fucking hours later and she's still sleeping, I was upset and I was going to wake her by sticking my cock up her ass when I thought up a better idea, I'll wait until around 5ish in the morning before I kick her out. Thats excactly what I did and as I ushered her out the door she was looking at me and expecting something, such as money, which I just closed the door behind her. As far as I was concerned the money she was expecting was spent at her family's freind's bar on drinks, while I only bought her three beers and two cokes for myself but thats how I felt, hopefully the next night will turn out better I hoped.Sounds like you got used...lol. But it's all good.
It's Pattaya!
Hey guys, on the fast track again. Hitting Thailand in two weeks. Going to be in the Pattaya area. I will be doing the walking street thing, apprehensive about the lady boy thing, but I have heard that the soapy parlors / massage parlors only staff girls. Any good solid recommendations?
My preffered style is the full shower thing with massage, full service, optional take out, with good spa style facilities. Anything come to mind-?Yeah, Bangkok!
Asian Fetish
09-23-10, 01:04
Woke up really late this evening from a late afternoon nap as the days touristy adventures are catching up to me. It was about 11ish and didn't really want to go all that too far from my hotel tonight as wanted an early night and be able to sleep alone, so stayed around the soi diamond area. By the time I showered, dressed and ventured outside figured it might be alittle late to find a goddess. So was prepared to take second best, even third.
Went into shark and some of the surrounding clubs and was amazed by some of the young hotties that were still available, got to chat to a few but all were not adventurous and declined my perverted desire's. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I'm an assman and there's no point me taking a good looking girl and not being able to satisfy my hunger, especially if she got a young, tight, firm, curvacious ass.
Decided to walk into windmill and see what all the fuss is about in this joint, girls there at that time(around 1ish) weren't all that good to look at even the ones on stage that were licking each other out. Except one of them had a real skanky way about her and thought to myself, why not.
So the mamasan called her over for me and as soon as she approached me she bent over, spread her ass cheeks open and asked if I wanted to fuck her in the ass. As I said she wasn't my type, not all that good looking, body not bad but seen better, but I'm a real fussy bastard. But I felt like having a well used skanky wh0re tonight and I think she was up to the challenge. Plus she was the only one on stage making all the noise and getting everyones attenetion, including mine. Bought her a drink while she was fondling me, saying that she new I was looking for a piece of ass as soon as she saw me walk in. I must of forgotten to wash it off my face!. Can't remember her name but apparently she's well liked in the bar, does most of the shows and has worked there for a number of years.
So with that I paid bar which they gave me a discount, why?, I have no idea and took her st. Took her upstairs to my room and she proved to me just how dirty she is and after acouple of hours of perverted fun finished with cim. I really had to commend this girl cause I wasn't turned on by her but provided me with what I needed and she tried her hardest to keep me hard the whole time.
She left with a smile and I just laid back in bed, turned on the tv and happily watched the repeats on the scifi channel before falling asleep.
LittleBigMan
09-23-10, 06:32
(did he say Bangcock?)
Uh....no......many scandals.....including a horror show ending in the death of a local farang school teacher injured on a motorsai v. cement truck....real bad, over priced place....with very little investigation and responsibility on things gone very, very bad (i.e. your death and explanation of what happened to family). (The man was transported to Sattahip on a pick up truck bleeding to death (they couldn't find his insurance coverage card). Things are forgotten quickly in Land of Smiles.
Also see this;
http://www.escapefromamerica.com/2010/04/healthcare-in-thailand/
Just a clariication,
I believe this happen over 2 years ago? This American teaching in Thailand was riding his motorbike and was run down on Beach Road by a truck. The truck and driver just continued and another bystander Farang came to help. He was badly injuried and unconsious and taken to Bangkok/Pattaya hospital but wasn't carrying any I.D. the only thing he had was his cell phone. Now from here it is all speculation and comes from the witness and his family who came to Pattaya to ask for help in this matter? BHP, said they stablized him and since he needed more blood and the BPH didn't have enough they decided to put him in one of those ambulance pickup trucks and take him to Chon Buri county hospital around 30 minutes away he died on the way. Believe what you may? but BPH was accused because they couldn't verify whether he had insurance they shipped him off. The family and those close who did the investigation said the story smelled?
As for the truck and driver, they were track down and a B.S. story was made by the company and driver! The company offer something like 100,000 baht as compensation and nothing was ever said about the driver as to what he had done?
I have been using BHP, for the last 10 years before they build all the extra building and before they received their International certification. This is my observation and first hand experience. If you are using the hospital for small emergencies and minor treatment the place is great and cheap only compare to Western prices. But as recently written by a Thai writer in the Bangkok Post who criticize the system anything more you better get a second opinion! The article reference by LB#2 is 100% correct.
BHP, in general is all show and no go when it comes to major illnesses. They lack the specialise and the hospital are mostly staff with Doctor of Internal Medicine. If you are a Farang and don't have insurance you pay now and more and of course they have setup a system to get you the proper paperwork so you can bill your Insurance back home later. If you have Thai insurance like Buppa, Thai, LMG, AIA, their eyes light up now they will charge the insurance more than if you pay cash and if you have a child that comes into with a fever? look out their response is " we need to keep them overnight for observation they might have " Dengue Fever " Give them a nice room, plenty of beautiful nurses and attention keep them for 3 days and the hospital makes 30,000 to 40,000 off the Insurance company! Saying it is a scam is being nice but someone has to pay for all the improvement?
All those fake discounts of Physical examinations of 50% off are scams. How can you prove it unless you live here and know the prices. Most tourist see the price and consider it still cheap! But all they have done is raise the price and cut it down and you're getting the same price. To be generous I will say not always but most of the time! With all those unnecessary test they bound to find something so get a second opinion! Stories of test results from BPH saying Farang patients need bypass heart surgery and return home to get a second opinion have been told in some cases the CT scan isn't even theirs.
True story, my brother also has been using this hospital for over 10 years, always pays cash never miss paying! His daughter needed a small operation 100,000 baht, as they were rolling her in, the Adminitration stopped the cart and told my brother " you need to pay 50% first " I could see the argue in my brothers face!
In the end, you want your teeth clean and pay a little bit more, use the emergency ward for a cut or accident, need some viagra knock yourself out but don't let all the fancy stuff like you think this is the best medical system in the world? It isn't? get yourself a second opinion when someone tells you they want to cut you open? But if I was dying, I certainly would like to get a room with those bubble ass nurses giving me a sponge bath! But since I'm not I'm heading down Soi 6, tonight for a prostate checkup!
LBM
Just a clariication,
I believe this happen over 2 years ago? This American teaching in Thailand was riding his motorbike and was run down on Beach Road by a truck. The truck and driver just continued and another bystander Farang came to help. He was badly injuried and unconsious and taken to Bangkok/Pattaya hospital but wasn't carrying any I.D. the only thing he had was his cell phone. Now from here it is all speculation and comes from the witness and his family who came to Pattaya to ask for help in this matter? BHP, said they stablized him and since he needed more blood and the BPH didn't have enough they decided to put him in one of those ambulance pickup trucks and take him to Chon Buri county hospital around 30 minutes away he died on the way. Believe what you may? but BPH was accused because they couldn't verify whether he had insurance they shipped him off. The family and those close who did the investigation said the story smelled?
As for the truck and driver, they were track down and a B.S. story was made by the company and driver! The company offer something like 100,000 baht as compensation and nothing was ever said about the driver as to what he had done?
I have been using BHP, for the last 10 years before they build all the extra building and before they received their International certification. This is my observation and first hand experience. If you are using the hospital for small emergencies and minor treatment the place is great and cheap only compare to Western prices. But as recently written by a Thai writer in the Bangkok Post who criticize the system anything more you better get a second opinion! The article reference by LB#2 is 100% correct.
BHP, in general is all show and no go when it comes to major illnesses. They lack the specialise and the hospital are mostly staff with Doctor of Internal Medicine. If you are a Farang and don't have insurance you pay now and more and of course they have setup a system to get you the proper paperwork so you can bill your Insurance back home later. If you have Thai insurance like Buppa, Thai, LMG, AIA, their eyes light up now they will charge the insurance more than if you pay cash and if you have a child that comes into with a fever? look out their response is " we need to keep them overnight for observation they might have " Dengue Fever " Give them a nice room, plenty of beautiful nurses and attention keep them for 3 days and the hospital makes 30,000 to 40,000 off the Insurance company! Saying it is a scam is being nice but someone has to pay for all the improvement?
All those fake discounts of Physical examinations of 50% off are scams. How can you prove it unless you live here and know the prices. Most tourist see the price and consider it still cheap! But all they have done is raise the price and cut it down and you're getting the same price. To be generous I will say not always but most of the time! With all those unnecessary test they bound to find something so get a second opinion! Stories of test results from BPH saying Farang patients need bypass heart surgery and return home to get a second opinion have been told in some cases the CT scan isn't even theirs.
True story, my brother also has been using this hospital for over 10 years, always pays cash never miss paying! His daughter needed a small operation 100,000 baht, as they were rolling her in, the Adminitration stopped the cart and told my brother " you need to pay 50% first " I could see the argue in my brothers face!
In the end, you want your teeth clean and pay a little bit more, use the emergency ward for a cut or accident, need some viagra knock yourself out but don't let all the fancy stuff like you think this is the best medical system in the world? It isn't? get yourself a second opinion when someone tells you they want to cut you open? But if I was dying, I certainly would like to get a room with those bubble ass nurses giving me a sponge bath! But since I'm not I'm heading down Soi 6, tonight for a prostate checkup!
LBM
I could not agree more with LBM
If you look at the Bangkok Group balance sheet you will see they have around 15 or more hospitals, only Pattaya is making massive profit.
My daughter went there with a fever, They kept her in overnight for suspected swine flu. In the morning she was discharged - no swine flu, but 17000bt lighter!
SCAM!
Lover Boy #2
09-24-10, 04:35
Just a clariication,
I believe this happen over 2 years ago? This American teaching in Thailand was riding his motorbike and was run down on Beach Road by a truck. The truck and driver just continued and another bystander Farang came to help. He was badly injuried and unconsious and taken to Bangkok/Pattaya hospital but wasn't carrying any I.D. the only thing he had was his cell phone. Now from here it is all speculation and comes from the witness and his family who came to Pattaya to ask for help in this matter? BHP, said they stablized him and since he needed more blood and the BPH didn't have enough they decided to put him in one of those ambulance pickup trucks and take him to Chon Buri county hospital around 30 minutes away he died on the way. Believe what you may? but BPH was accused because they couldn't verify whether he had insurance they shipped him off. The family and those close who did the investigation said the story smelled?
As for the truck and driver, they were track down and a B.S. story was made by the company and driver! The company offer something like 100,000 baht as compensation and nothing was ever said about the driver as to what he had done?
I have been using BHP, for the last 10 years before they build all the extra building and before they received their International certification. This is my observation and first hand experience. If you are using the hospital for small emergencies and minor treatment the place is great and cheap only compare to Western prices. But as recently written by a Thai writer in the Bangkok Post who criticize the system anything more you better get a second opinion! The article reference by LB#2 is 100% correct.
BHP, in general is all show and no go when it comes to major illnesses. They lack the specialise and the hospital are mostly staff with Doctor of Internal Medicine. If you are a Farang and don't have insurance you pay now and more and of course they have setup a system to get you the proper paperwork so you can bill your Insurance back home later. If you have Thai insurance like Buppa, Thai, LMG, AIA, their eyes light up now they will charge the insurance more than if you pay cash and if you have a child that comes into with a fever? look out their response is " we need to keep them overnight for observation they might have " Dengue Fever " Give them a nice room, plenty of beautiful nurses and attention keep them for 3 days and the hospital makes 30,000 to 40,000 off the Insurance company! Saying it is a scam is being nice but someone has to pay for all the improvement?
All those fake discounts of Physical examinations of 50% off are scams. How can you prove it unless you live here and know the prices. Most tourist see the price and consider it still cheap! But all they have done is raise the price and cut it down and you're getting the same price. To be generous I will say not always but most of the time! With all those unnecessary test they bound to find something so get a second opinion! Stories of test results from BPH saying Farang patients need bypass heart surgery and return home to get a second opinion have been told in some cases the CT scan isn't even theirs.
True story, my brother also has been using this hospital for over 10 years, always pays cash never miss paying! His daughter needed a small operation 100,000 baht, as they were rolling her in, the Adminitration stopped the cart and told my brother " you need to pay 50% first " I could see the argue in my brothers face!
In the end, you want your teeth clean and pay a little bit more, use the emergency ward for a cut or accident, need some viagra knock yourself out but don't let all the fancy stuff like you think this is the best medical system in the world? It isn't? get yourself a second opinion when someone tells you they want to cut you open? But if I was dying, I certainly would like to get a room with those bubble ass nurses giving me a sponge bath! But since I'm not I'm heading down Soi 6, tonight for a prostate checkup!
LBM
The details you give are basically correct, based on my remembrance of the incident. Actually the guy who runs Thai Tattoo Studio (Pattaya South Road)...I think his name is Simon, tried to help the teacher when he was down on the ground and seriously injured.....I think the truck took off. The teacher worked at a school teaching Thai students and the parents really loved the guy.......the hospital would have been paid. They were accused loudly of what they had done......after a lot of back pedaling, they came up with the story of the extra blood that was needed. The story they came up with makes no sense at all.....transport a critically ill patient instead of using a courier to obtain the blood immediately?......very weak story at least....a blatant lie to most. The hospital they were transporting to is supported by the government. Doctors were accused.....blah, blah, blah....a little "Thai style"......and nothing really resulted.
I myself had a minor injury when I was working on a project near Pattaya. I was transported to this place. In my particular case, the injury was minor.....but the doctor asked me what I wanted him to do!! I told him to clean and close the wound, apply an antiseptic/antibiotic and release me....he confirmed with his assistant and did just this. I healed up.....so no further to report. But......if you are not so lucky to heal up....maybe you end up with a major problem.
I would highly rec. that anyone in serious trouble in Pattaya.....try to make it to BKK (http://www.samitivejhospitals.com/contactus.aspx?lid=en). That is one that is good....as is Bumrungrad (but more expensive).
Mr Enternational
09-24-10, 06:32
i arrived from the philippines the day before yesterday, which by the way doesn't hold a candle to pattaya. i went to the disco that night and picked up a tall, beautiful, young thing. 20 years old. she looked exactly like kimora lee and i verified it later by pulling up photos on the internet while in the presence of a thai lady friend so she could judge for me while the girl was there. she thought it was really her.
while in the disco i made it known from the start that she would be going with me. i left her in the on-deck circle while i butterflied around. she was really unsure that i would take her because of my butterflying ways so she told her friend to ask me. i verified through the friend that she was definitely mine for the night.
when we got to the room she immediately went down on me after we got into the bed. then she started to put on the shy role that thai girls are known for. but that was okay. i broke out some toys and drove the shyness out of her. i can't stop thinking about those long legs wrapped around my waist. we left the room about 1pm the next day and she came with me to run errands. then we had lunch with my wingmen. one wingman still had his catch from the previous night so we all went to shoot pool on soi diana.
the time was about 4p.m. i never even bother discussing prices anymore. i only deal with fl so i just use the up-to-me pricing scheme. that is 1000 baht lt or 500 baht st, unless i am on beach rd then i will target for the 300 baht st beforehand. since nothing was discussed before i toyed with her by asking her how much i had to give her. she asked me if i wanted her to leave now. i said yes. i never keep a girl this long unless i am doing something special such as koh larn, but she was so damn beautiful that i really enjoyed looking at her. we also joked well together.
well the answer to my question was, "up to you." so i offered 100 baht. she said up to you again so i said okay 0 baht. she started laughing. the same time that i paid the bill at the pool hall i gave her a 1000 baht bill. we left and came back to my place for a third round. after that i finally decided to take her home. it hurt because i knew she would be a tough act to follow.
when we got to her place she asked if i wanted to come up. at first i said no but then i didn't have shit else to do. she said that she had better call first because maybe her friend's boyfriend was there. i told her that i did not care. we went upstairs. she called on the phone but i don't remember if her friend answered. she cracked the door and peeked in. i took that opportunity to barge in. there was a thai guy cuddling up on the bed asleep with one of the girls i had seen her at the disco with the night before. i said excuse me in thai then closed the door back. the time was 6p.m.
it reminded me of an excerpt from one of neil hutchison's books where he called himself going steady with a thai bar girl and found her thai boyfriend hiding out in the bathroom in the girl's room. i'm telling you guys, never shell out more dough than is absolutely needed. most of the proceeds are probably going to a thai guy anyway (nothing against thai guys; i actually admire them for being able to pocket so much farang money that way). and as a charter member of the church of bfs and lds are for noobs, suckers, and tourists, i must say that there is enough pussy floating around this place that no one should ever have to pay a bf or ld. but i guess some guys are more comfortable because a bar or an agogo appears to offer some type of structure.
all in all, i paid 1000 baht from 12:30a.m. (time met; 3a.m. time left the disco) until 6p.m. (from 15 to 17.5 hours, let's call it xlt for extra long time) to be with a model-like chick and completed 3 pops. damn i love this place.
Uncle Volodya
09-24-10, 17:31
i arrived from the philippines the day before yesterday, which by the way doesn't hold a candle to pattaya. i went to the disco that night and picked up a tall, beautiful, young thing. 20 years old. she looked exactly like kimora lee and i verified it later by pulling up photos on the internet while in the presence of a thai lady friend so she could judge for me while the girl was there. she thought it was really her.
while in the disco i made it known from the start that she would be going with me. i left her in the on-deck circle while i butterflied around. she was really unsure that i would take her because of my butterflying ways so she told her friend to ask me. i verified through the friend that she was definitely mine for the night.
when we got to the room she immediately went down on me after we got into the bed. then she started to put on the shy role that thai girls are known for. but that was okay. i broke out some toys and drove the shyness out of her. i can't stop thinking about those long legs wrapped around my waist. we left the room about 1pm the next day and she came with me to run errands. then we had lunch with my wingmen. one wingman still had his catch from the previous night so we all went to shoot pool on soi diana.
the time was about 4p.m. i never even bother discussing prices anymore. i only deal with fl so i just use the up-to-me pricing scheme. that is 1000 baht lt or 500 baht st, unless i am on beach rd then i will target for the 300 baht st beforehand. since nothing was discussed before i toyed with her by asking her how much i had to give her. she asked me if i wanted her to leave now. i said yes. i never keep a girl this long unless i am doing something special such as koh larn, but she was so damn beautiful that i really enjoyed looking at her. we also joked well together.
well the answer to my question was, "up to you." so i offered 100 baht. she said up to you again so i said okay 0 baht. she started laughing. the same time that i paid the bill at the pool hall i gave her a 1000 baht bill. we left and came back to my place for a third round. after that i finally decided to take her home. it hurt because i knew she would be a tough act to follow.
when we got to her place she asked if i wanted to come up. at first i said no but then i didn't have shit else to do. she said that she had better call first because maybe her friend's boyfriend was there. i told her that i did not care. we went upstairs. she called on the phone but i don't remember if her friend answered. she cracked the door and peeked in. i took that opportunity to barge in. there was a thai guy cuddling up on the bed asleep with one of the girls i had seen her at the disco with the night before. i said excuse me in thai then closed the door back. the time was 6p.m.
it reminded me of an excerpt from one of neil hutchison's books where he called himself going steady with a thai bar girl and found her thai boyfriend hiding out in the bathroom in the girl's room. i'm telling you guys, never shell out more dough than is absolutely needed. most of the proceeds are probably going to a thai guy anyway (nothing against thai guys; i actually admire them for being able to pocket so much farang money that way). and as a charter member of the church of bfs and lds are for noobs, suckers, and tourists, i must say that there is enough pussy floating around this place that no one should ever have to pay a bf or ld. but i guess some guys are more comfortable because a bar or an agogo appears to offer some type of structure.
all in all, i paid 1000 baht from 12:30a.m. (time met; 3a.m. time left the disco) until 6p.m. (from 15 to 17.5 hours, let's call it xlt for extra long time) to be with a model-like chick and completed 3 pops. damn i love this place.
good stuff! last i checked kimora lee is around 35 yrs old. was your lady also in her 30s?
it seems like it is much easier to get this kind of xtra gfe from the ladies on the other side of 30. some of them also look truly outstanding too.
happy hunting!
uncle v
I encountered a similar situation with a gal from a bar on Walking Street last year. Picked her because she reminded me of a hot girlfriend I had in the US twenty years ago.
Got back to the room and it was all cell phone, won't do this, won't do that. I told her to get dressed because I was taking her back to the bar. This initiated a complete 180 on her part. She then framed my wanting to take her back as a joke (fine with me), and came on like a tiger. Actually had a pretty good time. Ironically, would up giving her a little extra.
Chalked it up to the importance in Asia of "saving face." Guess she did not want me marching into the bar complianing about her in front of others.
178. 162. 182. 149 Anyway, another night in Pattaya and I was determined to find someone I'm really looking for. So I was combing the gogo's for that special someone when walking past hooty's in walking street I saw her. Standing outside the club wearing a body hugging grey dress, hostess dress.
She was excactely what I've been looking for, short, about 5'tall or under, dark skin, pettite but shapely figure and walked great which is always a turn on for me. Her name was Geegi and as mentioned works as a hostess at the club. I liked her as soon as I saw her, bought her a drink, chatted alittle asked her how much bar fine and for herself. 600 for bar and 2000lt for her, I can live with that I thought and we were away in a flash.
So this is where it begins, she asks me what I have planned to which I replied we'll quickly grab some kebabs from my favourite street vendor, acouple of drinks from 7/11, head up to my room and fuck!. She says sounds like a good idea but., its too early yet and suggests we maybe have acouple of drinks at a beerbar. Anything that makes you happy I said and with that she go's on to say her family has just opened a beerbar at one of the large complex's at the end of walking street and we should go there for some drinks. I should of seen this coming I said to myself but I figured acouple of drinks won't hurt.
Well, sitting there with drink in hand and her yip yaking to the old lady behind the bar I was getting bored also getting harrassed every 20 minutes for tips from the thai boxes when finishing their rounds in the ring. I really didn't mind this cause they were actually good fighters and putting on a good show, but what really got up my nose was when a few guys were entering the complex my girl for the night was welcoming them in and trying to entice them to sit at the bar we're at. I thought to myself, hang on a second *****, I paid your barfine and taken you out, your mine for the night. If you want your family's friend bar to succeed maybe he should get some young attractive girls behind the counter and not some old wrinkly 50 yearold pouring drinks. So with that thought, I paid bin and told her we leave now, she asked 'now', I just nodded my head, grabbed her hand and left without leaving a tip which they were expecting.
Back to the room and we showered and affectionately went to bed where we caressed and kissed to get me going. I went down and gave her a thorough tongue lashing to which she came, as I came up from between her legs she was looking at me with satisfaction and disbelieve, told me 'thankyou' with a soft voice then turned around, curled up and went to sleep. 'What the fuck' was my first reaction, but then I realised that the poor darling might need some rest after the entre, so decided to let her sleep alittle, turned on the tv and waited my turn.
4 fucking hours later and she's still sleeping, I was upset and I was going to wake her by sticking my cock up her ass when I thought up a better idea, I'll wait until around 5ish in the morning before I kick her out. Thats excactly what I did and as I ushered her out the door she was looking at me and expecting something, such as money, which I just closed the door behind her. As far as I was concerned the money she was expecting was spent at her family's freind's bar on drinks, while I only bought her three beers and two cokes for myself but thats how I felt, hopefully the next night will turn out better I hoped.
Majestic1967
09-24-10, 20:50
Can anybody tell me, where is the best place to exchange american dollars for bahts. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thank You
I encountered a similar situation with a gal from a bar on Walking Street last year. Picked her because she reminded me of a hot girlfriend I had in the US twenty years ago.
Got back to the room and it was all cell phone, won't do this, won't do that. I told her to get dressed because I was taking her back to the bar. This initiated a complete 180 on her part. She then framed my wanting to take her back as a joke (fine with me), and came on like a tiger. Actually had a pretty good time. Ironically, would up giving her a little extra.
Chalked it up to the importance in Asia of "saving face." Guess she did not want me marching into the bar complianing about her in front of others.The same thing happened to me at Nana,the girl was all over me in the bar, then back in the hotel room stalling, making calls to her family and planning on going home with the money she was expecting from me. When she wouldn't take the damn towel off, I kick her out(gently, no violence)
On the other hand, I had a girl in Pattaya I'd met in a bar call me up. she wanted to go out with me but I wasn't keen, so put her off for a couple of hours. When we did hook later she took me to bars her friends worked, which was pissing me off. I stuck with it and when we finally got to my condo, I thought she was drunk or high, but after we showered she fucked the asre off me for an hour, let me photo and video the whole episode. Sometimes you just have to play it by ear.
Slackerslacker
09-25-10, 03:23
Good stuff! Last I checked Kimora Lee is around 35 yrs old. Was your lady also in her 30s?
It seems like it is much easier to get this kind of xtra GFE from the ladies on the other side of 30. Some of them also look truly outstanding too.
Happy hunting!
Uncle VSecond sentence of his report he says he picked up a 20-year old who looked like Kimora lee.
Member #4148
09-25-10, 08:27
Greetings all.
I am new to this forum and have read through it extensively, enjoying especially Popper's colorful reports.
I am a fan and patron of Ghana and Kenya and confess a powerful penchant for dark women. Yet I am also keen on slutty sex, squalorous environs and prurience generally. Hence, the appeal of Pattaya.
I have three questions about Pattaya:
1. Among the most compelling features for me of girls in Ghana and Kenya is the nearly universal potential availability of everyday girls you meet in the street and who work in places like beauty parlors and travel bureaus and restaurants and supermarkets. Not to mention the ease of scoring with "regular" girls, often for free (as they presumably are looking for a long-term investment) via internet sites like afrointroductions. You won't score every time but you will score a lot of the time.
Now, keeping in mind the language barrier and the fact that I speak no Thai and for the moment have no intentions of learning, how available are "ordinary" women in Pattaya? How prevalent is English among the non-pro women? How are the social mores concerning striking up libidinal conversations with ostensibly non-working women? Acceptable? Frowned upon? Stupid question?
2. How prevalent are women from the darker-skinned tribes? Are they well represented among the working and ordinary girls?
3. When I was in BKK some years ago I had a wonderful time at the Eden Club. It is not clear after perusing the internet whether this club still exists in Pattaya. Does it?
Thanks in advance.
Member #4148
09-25-10, 08:38
Just hit me that the Pattaya version of Eden is called Devil's Den.
But there used to be an Eden here, too, no?
ThaiLearner
09-25-10, 12:13
Can anybody tell me, where is the best place to exchange american dollars for bahts. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thank YouYou just have to shop around as they can change all the time.
Always change your money in Thailand.
Reiner Otto
09-25-10, 15:24
Plannning my trip to Pattaya in January, one of the requirements is good internet access, for work.
So I can look for appartments with WiFi, but another option would be mobile internet access.
Are there reliable providers of WiMax/UMTS/HSDPA and if yes, how are the prices, for 1 month or 1 GB traffic ?
I encountered a similar situation with a gal from a bar on Walking Street last year. Picked her because she reminded me of a hot girlfriend I had in the US twenty years ago.
Got back to the room and it was all cell phone, won't do this, won't do that. I told her to get dressed because I was taking her back to the bar. This initiated a complete 180 on her part. She then framed my wanting to take her back as a joke (fine with me), and came on like a tiger. Actually had a pretty good time. Ironically, would up giving her a little extra.
Chalked it up to the importance in Asia of "saving face." Guess she did not want me marching into the bar complianing about her in front of others.Yes that just shows the Thai mentality, she thought you were just a stupid farang, and had already banked your money, but you showed who the boss was, something not many mongers do, like you say she didn't want you marching her back to her bar, wanting your BF back In front of all her colleagues, so she sorted out her attitude.
VileMaggot
09-25-10, 20:28
Okay,
For all of you wondering or arguing about india, let me break it down for you.
As an indian who has spent most of his life abroad, I have to say, india is severely lacking. As a tourist, india is not a bad place to visit. As a monger, india is most probably the last place in the world you want to visit.
You see the pictures of the indian actresses? Yeah, I dunno where those chicks come from, and if you would classify them as a 10 [among indian women], I've never seen one that even comes close to a 6 in real life, and I've been living here [india] for the past two and a half years. There are reports of red light districts in places like bombay and calcutta [or Mumbai and kolkata as they are referred to now], but really, I expect them to be rated in the negative when compared to foreign women.
As a human being, india is, quite frankly offensive in so many ways. People are touchy, loud, the roads are dirty and filthy, there's no semblance to alone time or privacy, the food is severely oily, spicy, unhygenic and the water is disease laden. Truly, if I start to list all the faults and shortcomings of india, I would not stop. My friends who have lived here their whole life say that given a choice they would always come back to the land of their forefathers or some bullshit, I just cannot understand or wrap my head around it.
Women here just do not consider the option of prostitution, even if they are in severe poverty [as is the case with over half the population]. They would rather sell their uterus or kill their families off and then themselves than consider such a think. This kind of news appears once every few days.
And for those of you who enjoy the other sinful pleasures in life, the cigarettes here are a real rough drag and leave stains on your fingernails and teeth within a week of starting to smoke them, and the booze tastes like [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) water, and foreign booze, like a good scotch, while available at bars in 5-star hotels, probably cost as much as in bars in foreign countries. BTW, when I say foreign countries, I'm referring to western countries.
In short, mongers, please, please, please DO NOT waste your money coming to india for a sex holiday. Or better yet any kind of holiday, period. My home town here is a popular tourist spot, and even though I admit that it is one of only two places in india I visited that I like, the prices charged there, especially for tourists, is a complete rip off.
Mr Enternational
09-26-10, 00:53
While there is an Indian brother on the line I must pose a question. But let me start off with a scenario.
The other night on Walking Street I saw the funniest damn thing. There were two Indian guys walking with a Thai woman. One guy had his arm around her waist and the other had his arm around her shoulder. If only I had had my camera ready. I was thinking there are plenty of women to go around. Why doesn't the other guy get his own woman?
So why is it that when I see Indian brothers in Pattaya they are always ganging up on the girls? There is never a one-on-one thing. They are always in groups of two or more trying to pick up or with one girl.
Lover Boy #2
09-26-10, 03:30
While there is an Indian brother on the line I must pose a question. But let me start off with a scenario.
The other night on Walking Street I saw the funniest damn thing. There were two Indian guys walking with a Thai woman. One guy had his arm around her waist and the other had his arm around her shoulder. If only I had had my camera ready. I was thinking there are plenty of women to go around. Why doesn't the other guy get his own woman?
So why is it that when I see Indian brothers in Pattaya they are always ganging up on the girls? There is never a one-on-one thing. They are always in groups of two or more trying to pick up or with one girl.
Not an Indian guy here.....but let me throw down a possible answer.....Indian guys can buy a fairly low priced tour package to Thailand and stay together....many in the same room.....trying to save lodging and food costs (this is not a "cheapness" issue....just one of not having a huge amount of surplus money) . Possibly a two for one deal with the girl for the budget conscious has been accomplished....and she actually is both of their "girlfriends"??
Lover Boy #2
09-26-10, 03:36
Greetings all.
I am new to this forum and have read through it extensively, enjoying especially Popper's colorful reports.
I am a fan and patron of Ghana and Kenya and confess a powerful penchant for dark women. Yet I am also keen on slutty sex, squalorous environs and prurience generally. Hence, the appeal of Pattaya.
I have three questions about Pattaya:
1. Among the most compelling features for me of girls in Ghana and Kenya is the nearly universal potential availability of everyday girls you meet in the street and who work in places like beauty parlors and travel bureaus and restaurants and supermarkets. Not to mention the ease of scoring with "regular" girls, often for free (as they presumably are looking for a long-term investment) via internet sites like afrointroductions. You won't score every time but you will score a lot of the time.
Now, keeping in mind the language barrier and the fact that I speak no Thai and for the moment have no intentions of learning, how available are "ordinary" women in Pattaya? How prevalent is English among the non-pro women? How are the social mores concerning striking up libidinal conversations with ostensibly non-working women? Acceptable? Frowned upon? Stupid question?
2. How prevalent are women from the darker-skinned tribes? Are they well represented among the working and ordinary girls?
3. When I was in BKK some years ago I had a wonderful time at the Eden Club. It is not clear after perusing the internet whether this club still exists in Pattaya. Does it?
Thanks in advance.
1. A lot of the girls in Pattaya come there to work the sex game (as do their Thai boyfriends).....so there are a lot of professionals around (with a drug addicted, possibly bi-sexual boyfriend).....but of course there are many girls working in shops and other non sex commercial establishments.....the only problem is that they see what the working girls have....and possible see the farang as a means to this end.....so great relationships are hard to come by.
2. You can definitely find darker skinned girls in Pattaya......even negro looking ones......
3. Eden Club Pattaya was closed after the French owner's (Marc) partner in the venture suddenly died. I don't think there is any connection now between the Devil's Den and BKK Eden.....although there is a similar format.
LukeSkyWanker
09-26-10, 05:24
I am not a cheap Charlie and buy far too many lady drinks. OK now I have made that statement I can tell you what happened last night, it was around midnight and I was heading back to my hotel. I had been drinking all day but not drunk, I stopped at a bar for 1 last drink before hitting beach road for a take away (Beach road was very busy many girls) sat at the bar and started talking to an older lady, she was very easy to talk with and a good rack for her age. I finished my beer and decided to ask her to accompany me, I paid the 80 baht for the drink and 300 barfine. The cashier then said she couldn't leave until I bought her a lady drink, as I had too much beer I didn't want to hang around so the bar fine is not 300 but 450, she never asked for a drink whilst we were chatting, if she had I would have bought her one gladly. To make a point I got my 300 baht back and walked so the bar lost 300, I will probably go back tonight and buy her a lady drink but not bar fine her this will probably confuse them even more!
May the force be with you.
I am heading to Pattaya in October and will be staying at the Nova Platinum Hotel. I would like to get an in call massage but I don't want the normal rub and tug. I want a full 5 star 2 hour massage then with the HJ at the end. I have heard that this place has a spa but after looking at the internet it doesn't, can any conform this? Also I would like to stop by a hair salon and get a hair but plus get my pubic hair trimmer shorter too, any ideas on a place?
Thanks for the help!
The reason that it isn't on their website is that it's an outside vendor that they rent space to. It opened a year and a half ago when their tower #2 opened, and they were having a special promotion for guests at NP. I tried one of their deluxe spa packages...I think it was 3 hours for 2000 THB, and it included a milk bubble bath, a body scrub, and an oil massage. A VERY nice experience, and of course the usual upsell options were offered including HE. Of course I paid the special service to the girl in cash.
I had asked before I went there if I could charge it to my room, and of course they said yes, but when I went to check out a week or so later, the NP manager on duty insisted that I pay the spa bill separately, in cash. Well, I explained that they said it could be added to my hotel bill, and that I had already changed all my THB back to USDollars. He was a very unpleasant man, but he had no choice but to add it to my bill because that was the only way he was going to get paid.
BTW, I was a long time customer of the NP hotel, and I had spent over 80 nights there over 4 visits, but after that occasion I will never go back. There are SO many better hotels that actually know the meaning of "Customer Service"
Member #4148
09-26-10, 06:29
I was under the impression that bar fines and lady drinks are de rigeur and unavoidable.
Popper1 writes: BFs and LDs are for Noobs, Suckers, and Tourists.
As an official noob and tourist who is trying mostly not to be a sucker in life, I would like to know how you avoid these things?
VileMaggot
09-26-10, 08:27
While there is an Indian brother on the line I must pose a question. But let me start off with a scenario.
The other night on Walking Street I saw the funniest damn thing. There were two Indian guys walking with a Thai woman. One guy had his arm around her waist and the other had his arm around her shoulder. If only I had had my camera ready. I was thinking there are plenty of women to go around. Why doesn't the other guy get his own woman?
So why is it that when I see Indian brothers in Pattaya they are always ganging up on the girls? There is never a one-on-one thing. They are always in groups of two or more trying to pick up or with one girl.
Not an Indian guy here. But let me throw down a possible answer. Indian guys can buy a fairly low priced tour package to Thailand and stay together. Many in the same room. Trying to save lodging and food costs (this is not a "cheapness" issue. Just one of not having a huge amount of surplus money). Possibly a two for one deal with the girl for the budget conscious has been accomplished. And she actually is both of their "girlfriends"?it is true that I am indian, however, as I stated before, I spent most of my life outside of india, and as such have a hard time to consider myself an 'indian'.
That being said, let me try to answer your question, mr enternational. Here in india, it is not uncommon for men to hold hands while walking down the street, or for them to link pinky fingers or for them to sit on each others lap while in crowded trains or buses. Indian men are quite touchy feely with other men that they know well. Handshakes between two male friends sometimes last half the duration of the converstaion. I find this extremely funny, and not to mention put off [uncomfortable, I'm not a homophobe] by it, as the indian nation as a whole is extremely homophobic, and homosexuality is considered a sin, and [almost] a crime worthy of stoning. Theres a stand up comedian who makes fun of this. Russel peters in red, white and brown; a canadian born and raised indian.
Lover boy #2, you do make a vaild point, and that is one of many possible reasons. However, indians are misers, so it may not just be a budget restraint issue.
Another thing to keep in mind is that the standard of living in india is quite low, the daily wages for a labourer come to around $7 a day, I think. I know for a fact that [with todays exchange rate], a mba qualified worker starts off in a bank at $6110 per year. Of course, there are those who earn a lot, as seen in the world richest list consisting of, I think, two indians.
I'm pretty sure that the indians that do come to Thailand are those that work in foreign countries, and while they may earn a lot when compared to those in india, they generally have families that they support. The concept of leaving home and standing on your own two legs is unfamiliar here. Men get married and still live with their parents unless circumstance force them to move out or away, family is everything.
Men and women have no physical contact here, its taboo. Even husbands and wives don't touch each other in public, I cannot comment on their home lives, but I don't think its very different. Sex is generally seen a a tool for reproduction only, and not a pleasurable activity. Most married couples have sex only to have kids and they usually do so within the first year of marriage. So it could just be that the second dude was starving to touch a lbfm until he had found his own. LOL.
plannning my trip to pattaya in january, one of the requirements is good internet access, for work.
so i can look for appartments with wifi, but another option would be mobile internet access.
are there reliable providers of wimax/umts/hsdpa and if yes, how are the prices, for 1 month or 1 gb traffic ?
cheapest option is if you have a phone you can tether or a 3g dongle, then buy a truemove sim card. 599 baht a month gives you unlimited 3g.
it's about 1.5-2mbps download, 300-400k upload. similar to adsl 2mb package.
see the prices here
http://www.truemove.com/iphone/en/price.html
see the areas covered here, click "service areas"
http://www.truemove.com/en/service-3g.html
you can check the aircard when you're arriving to see if prepay is available. prepay is no monthly contract i think, just month by month.
http://www.truemove.com/aircard/en/default.aspx
if you're interested in hutch, i suggest going into their store next to tukcom and talking to them instead of going off the info on the website. the speeds might be slower than you expect from what you read, and sometimes they make you pay a year up front, etc. if you're facing tukcom on pattaya tai, turn left (east) and cross the small street, go about 30 meters, it's a really small store on the right. they might have evdo packages cheap. that's usually 1-1.5mbps down, but 0.05kbps up, so you can't skype on it. it only works in pattaya/jomtien area, and will not work in bangkok.
http://www.hutch.co.th/mbi/prepay/index_en.htm#pack01
Mr Enternational
09-26-10, 11:28
Walking around Lucifers. Near there was a Thai bar. Again, to be clear, these are small, hole-in-the-wall places which are filled with girls. They are all sitting, relaxing, etc.
As stated before, being a member of the Church of LDs and Bar Fines are for Suckers, Noobs, and Tourists, walked in. Place very small. Talked to six girls and offered them all drinks. Again, this is not an LD, but rather offering to buy a bunch of gals lady drinks -- totally different.
Decided I was in the mood for a bigger gal with white skin and large tits. More the Western look for tonight. My mood goes back and forth from that to the smaller LBFM. Anyway, as you can see from the picture, the Thai whiskey comes in a small M-150 bottle. There are seven shots in the bottle, and cost 40 baht. Ordered three bottles for the gals and I to share. Tho I not a whiskey connoisseur, suspect at about 6 baht a shot that this not the highest quality available.
500 baht for ST and we were off to my hotel.I saw this place the other night, not really knowing. What made me do a double take is that a girl I took from Lucifer in March was there when I walked by. The day that I took her she was drunk off Thai whiskey. Now I know where she gets it from. She must get liquored up in the Thai bar before going to Lucifer so she won't have to buy the 90 baht drinks there.
Location: Leaving out of Lucifer directly across and to the left is a small alley (I park my bike there when going to Walking Street). Probably 5 steps from the corner on the left is a red and black sign in western script and in Thai script. The western script says "Kab Tawan."
New Old Guy
09-26-10, 11:54
Cheapest option is if you have a phone you can tether or a 3G Dongle, then buy a TrueMove sim card. 599 baht a month gives you unlimited 3G.
There is no 3G in Thailand. A court has blocked the concession bidding by the the telecommunication authority (I would be digressing).
So whatever it is, 2 or 2.5, etc it's not 3G, that is still far away.
LukeSkyWanker
09-26-10, 12:07
Arrived very early around 12:30, not many girls around, the ones that were there were putting on make up, doing their hair etc. Had a quiet beer in the 2nd bar form the end next door to the bee, relaxing and able to watch them all arrive for their shift. Moved onto the Full Moon and met an 18 year old who called herself kik, very petite and just last night had her tongue pierced, she was quick to point out it helps her blowjob. Decided to save for later as I had only just got rid of last night's lady and felt like I wouldn't be able to do it justice. Moved onto the Halifax bar nearest beach road (there are 2 Halifax bars on soi 6) not much talent inside but friendly atmosphere, a looker came in after 30 mins but a guy was already waiting for her. As I was leaving heavens opened up so took shelter in a massage parlour about 5 doors up, opted for oil this turned out to be one of the best I have ever had. 500baht for the happy ending.
May the force be with you.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/world/asia/25iht-thai.html?pagewanted=2&ref=general&src=me
Worth reading for those visiting thailand for the first time. A lot is a rehash of what people have already mentioned in the forum. Just look at the quotes on what they are saying.
Crazy4Thai
09-26-10, 15:54
BTW, I was a long time customer of the NP hotel, and I had spent over 80 nights there over 4 visits, but after that occasion I will never go back. There are SO many better hotels that actually know the meaning of "Customer Service"
See my report in Pattaya Hotels about Nova Gold - right around the corner from Platinum - nice property but the staff is downright rude.
Starchild2012
09-26-10, 17:00
Okay,
For all of you wondering or arguing about india, let me break it down for you.
As an indian who has spent most of his life abroad, I have to say, india is severely lacking. As a tourist, india is not a bad place to visit. As a monger, india is most probably the last place in the world you want to visit.
I'm an Indian myself and living in India for the last 30 years. I'm sorry on behalf of all Indians who spoil the game for others..i don't know what else to do...you are right on every word you say man..i agree..
Indian are not liked anywhere they go ...they are wrapped around their tiny heads to think India is all that exist around the world. They are kicked in Australia, they slave in US and europe and are not entertained in Thailand.
The few who understand and respect the global culture of humanity and respect would pass way over the head of majority of Indians. 99% of Indians have serious Psychological issues...they are brain dead and are incapable of understanding another culture and humans.
Not all are bad though many Indians who are global minded and visit these forums are cool and understand...but majority are just dumb cows..if you try to put some sense into them ...they will accuse you of being anti-indian.
If you tell that Indians smell bad due to eating habits and curry and Indians should use more deo and perfume ...they will accuse me of being anti-Indian...its sad really i pity my own people...its hopeless.
Think about it ...one of the most hated people in Pattaya are not the lady boys who pester tourist..even they have sense......but the Indian tailors...who left their brains on a sewing machine...just shaking hands with everyone and thinking everyone needs a f**cking suit in pattaya...its moronic and stupid f**ckfull shameful act of what they do to tourist in Thailand and bring bad names to all Indians.
These Indian tailors must be kicked out of Thailand to bring some sense of existence in Pattaya for other Indians who behave properly.
I don't know what else to do...i have given up...its frustrating ..no matter how many good Indians try to give a good image of us abroad..there are 100 other morons who spoil the place for rest of us...what can we do?
Starchild2012
09-26-10, 17:13
While there is an Indian brother on the line I must pose a question. But let me start off with a scenario.
The other night on Walking Street I saw the funniest damn thing. There were two Indian guys walking with a Thai woman. One guy had his arm around her waist and the other had his arm around her shoulder. If only I had had my camera ready. I was thinking there are plenty of women to go around. Why doesn't the other guy get his own woman?
So why is it that when I see Indian brothers in Pattaya they are always ganging up on the girls? There is never a one-on-one thing. They are always in groups of two or more trying to pick up or with one girl.Bro, I'm an Indian myself, read my reply below...most of the Indian's you see in Pattaya are cheap charlie dumb f**ck cows with no human mind. Most of them are possessed by some kinda entity they pray too.
Trust me man....there is no hope here...why do you think an uneducated, illiterate thai bar girl from Issan who has no idea of how the world works when she sees an Indian...utterly disgust them ..most of the bar girls gets smitten by Indians.....there must be something in her soul or self to detest bad vibration.
All bad acts done by Indians does not go unnoticed..words spread around...no matter how hard tiny few good Indians try to do...10000 others will spoil it for us....its time to move on man...lets move onto something else..its hopeless talking about us..we ain't gonna change anytime soon :)
I'm an Indian myself and living in India for the last 30 years.
99% of Indians have serious Psychological issues...they are brain dead and are incapable of understanding another culture and humans.So where do you fall in this overall percentile?
VileMaggot
09-26-10, 17:38
While there is an Indian brother on the line I must pose a question. But let me start off with a scenario.
The other night on Walking Street I saw the funniest damn thing. There were two Indian guys walking with a Thai woman. One guy had his arm around her waist and the other had his arm around her shoulder. If only I had had my camera ready. I was thinking there are plenty of women to go around. Why doesn't the other guy get his own woman?
So why is it that when I see Indian brothers in Pattaya they are always ganging up on the girls? There is never a one-on-one thing. They are always in groups of two or more trying to pick up or with one girl.
Not an Indian guy here. But let me throw down a possible answer. Indian guys can buy a fairly low priced tour package to Thailand and stay together. Many in the same room. Trying to save lodging and food costs (this is not a "cheapness" issue. Just one of not having a huge amount of surplus money). Possibly a two for one deal with the girl for the budget conscious has been accomplished. And she actually is both of their "girlfriends"?while I am of indian citizenship, as stated before, I have spent most of my life outside of india, and as such have a hard time considering myself as an 'indian', especially when I see the general attitudes, behaviour and customs of the people around me. That being said, let me take a stab at trying to explain the actions of my countrymen.
I must admit, I am not completely sure about what to make of the scenario you posed before me, mr enternational. From my observations and general understanding, homosexuality is not tolerated in india, although recently some headway is being made there. [I'm pretty sure there's a pun or innuendo in the previous sentence, completely unintentional]. However, a very common scene here is two or more [straight] guys, dressed quite flamboyantly, holding hands, or linking pinky fingers or sitting on each other laps in crowded buses and trains. Handshakes between two male relatives or friends usually last at least half the length of the converstaion. A stand up comedian makes fun of this in his show. Russell peters in red, white and brown. Canadian born and raised indian. Threesome?, I think not.
As lover boy #2 speculated, it may not be an issue of cheapness. [though that is not out of the possibility]. The standard of living here is quite low. I'm pretty sure that the average labour worker makes around $7 a day. I know for a fact that mba graduates get bank jobs with a starting salary of $6110 [at todays rate] per year.
However, it is a well known fact that indians are cheap. Not misers, just cheap. A 'two for one deal' is not a bad explanation, but I highly doubt it is a threesome. They're probably indians with jobs in a foreign country. While they may make more money than they would in india, they probably have families back home they have to take care of. Family is one of the most important things in india, second only to religion.
Sex is seen as a reproductive tool and not a pleasurable leisure activity here. Most couple have a child within the first year of marriage. Marriages that are arranged. Pda is non exstant here. Males and females do not have physical contact. For example, a college student may have a boy/girl friend. This is just a title, they may go out for a coffee or talk to each other on the phone a lot and maybe send cutesy messages. That is the extent of it. No holding hands or hugging or kissing and definitely no sex. Maybe the second guy was just starving for the feel of a lbfm, and couldn't wait till he got his own, LOL.
New Old Guy
09-26-10, 17:46
Starchild, why do you pick on the tailors, these people only try to make an honest living. The only reason I would buy a suite would be if I was invited to party in an high-rollers club (it is not happening), but other people may need or like one anyway, there os nothing wrong with that.
Any tips on where to go in Pattaya to get pampered?
I mean proper body treatments in a proper wellness centre.
Cheers
A quick report on a recent trip to Pataya. Same as ever – and only took girls rom Soi 6 bars (My Friend You and Halifax) and also from Go Go to right as you go up to Club X…..
Only one thing unusual to report. I saw a youngish Japanese women in a go go up one of the side sois from Walking St (can't recall which one ...sorry) with her male partner. She was sitting right on the edge of the shower play area and interacting with the dancers, buying drinks and lots of touching and soaping them up – she appeared quite excited by the whole thing and it was horny watching her.
I knew one of the shower girls a bit but she wouldn’t tell me what was being whispered…anyhow ever one to push the situation, I got my shower girl to express a little milk from her breasts for me to taste while making sure the Japanese woman saw what was happening.. She sure arced up and so I persuaded my friend to do it again and this time offer the Japanese woman a taste – which she duly did! Very horny situation.
Lot more whispering and I thought I might be in for a very different night but unfortunately she picked out another dancer, her partner barfined her an they all left after she gave me a high five very un-Japanese esp from a woman……however my fantasies live on!
I'm an Indian myself and living in India for the last 30 years. I'm sorry on behalf of all Indians who spoil the game for others..i don't know what else to do...you are right on every word you say man..i agree..
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I don't know what else to do...i have given up...its frustrating ..no matter how many good Indians try to give a good image of us abroad..there are 100 other morons who spoil the place for rest of us...what can we do?Are you trying to bring to ISG the Indian "levels" that should be abandoned for good?
SirHumpsaLott
09-26-10, 22:44
So finally returned back to Pattaya (and Thailand in general) after an approximately two year gap. Hadn't really needed the "Asian" fix since I moved to Kuwait and there are plenty of Chinese and Phillipina providers there. I was in Dubai on business and afterwards had to burn off some excess vacation time so decided to take a side trip to LOS for old time’s sake.
Stopped off in Bangkok first for a few days and was quickly bored to death after the first night. I usually try to get African, Russian, or any other non Asian provider in Bangkok since I've had good luck in the past pulling them from regular bars and clubs such as Spazos. However I already did Asian, African, and Russian over the course of my two nights in Dubai so didn't even bother.
Arrived in Pattaya earlier this afternoon pretty much hung over after a night of binging at Soi 7 back in Bangkok and not too excited at all; I was actually thinking about cutting my trip early until I got to my hotel and was immediately impressed. I won't go into too much detail here (but will later on the hotel forum) since it is late and I want to get to my first day's pickup but if anyone has a chance to stay at the Vault, I suggest you take it. This place is top notch and extremely girl friendly. I got one of their penthouse rooms which are HUGE with Jacuzzi, stripper pole/stage and the guy who runs the place is very helpful with anything you might need. He even provided me with a local cell phone to use as well as to call him anytime if I needed anything. I've been coming to Pattaya off and on since 1990 and never before have had I experienced such support and service.
So anyway, after taking care of some business, getting something to eat and taking a nap, I headed out around 8PM to Walking Street (only two minute walk away). Didn’t want to rush things nor drink too much since I was still feeling slightly queasy from the previous night’s binger. Plan was to catch a baht bus to SOI 6 then work my way back to Walking Street while checking out the Beach Road action. Decided to try and walk instead to work off the earlier meal but only got halfway before I realized it was further than I thought and due to the humidity, I was soon covered in sweat. Got a baht bus to SOi 6 and the memories instantly came flooding back. Got the usual cat calls and whatnot but decided against choosing anyone or going into any of the bars (yet) because the girls looked to me to be way too young or were not girls; in fact there were a LOT more katooey there than I remember.
Anyway I was reading Poppers posts and had already decided I was going to give the Beach Road action a try before paying for any bar fines or lady drinks. Walked the length of Soi 6 then around the block and back down to beach road, again covered in sweat. It was getting late and I was getting tired so decided to take a baht bus all the way back to Walking Street to hit some of the go-gos and check out the street action. Noticed that there is a lot more Russian/Uzbek hookers than I remember from my last visit but none of them were really giving me the “look” to come and see what was on the menu and again, I had my fill back in Dubai. Although I almost approached one thin beauty who was staring strangely at me but her fat ugly friend saw us looking at each other and immediately tried to negotiate 8000 baht to which I replied; “dosvadonya, sweetie”.
Kept getting pestered by touts to check out the live sex shows but I had already seen one earlier that week in Bangkok. These guys are insistent to the point that I almost thought one was going to try and physically impel me to go. In fact, it may be the off season but it seemed a lot of the clubs and vendors were sparsely populated and the place itself didn’t seem crowded at all; lots of couples who didn’t look to be interested in the strip bars.
Thirsty so decided to hit up a few go-gos for the 45baht drafts, went into one of the baby dolls and was immediately set upon by all the unoccupied half naked girls. I grabbed a seat, ordered a drink and was enjoying the show when the inevitable happened; “by lady drink?” The request was from the sweet young thing sitting next to me and I might have had not four of her co-workers also decided for some reason at that moment to also hit me up for lady drinks. I took that as my cue to vamoose and to all their dismay finished my drink, paid and left. I’d like to have told the other girls that they all just screwed their friend out of a drink but I don’t think it would have registered. In any case it brought me back to my original plan to hit Beach Road.
I hit three more go-gos and repeated the same strategy of leaving whenever asked about LD’s. I will say that all of the girls were progressively better looking and naked with each bar I visited and the last one almost got me; I had two dancers on either side of me with one massaging my package and noticing as it got bigger then urging her friend to also have a feel to which she eagerly did. Now that was feeling pretty good but I knew I had to finish my beer and get out before the begging started. Too late, they must have somehow sensed what I was thinking (probably the way I chugged my beer and looked towards the exit) and both hit me up with LD requests , instantly killing the half chub I had going. Mama san sees me digging in my pocket and assumes I’m going to buy LD’s but I tell her I just want to pay the bill. Now I got mamasan, two topless girls, and another dancer who’d been eyeing from across the stage all hassling me about why I was leaving. I tell them I don’t have enough money to stay and need to hit an ATM. They urge me to come back and freaking mamasan then makes like she is going to come with me to the ATM to I guess “make sure” I come back to the gogo and spend more money, even saying I did not have to pay the current bill right now but could do so when I came back. Told her no, I’ll pay right now because I might not come back and sad faces all around. There was only me and I think 4 other guys in the place so I guess they weren’t having a good night.
I actually did go to an ATM on 2nd road and was hit up by this kid to come see another sex show which was right there. Unlike the previous others this guy seemed reasonably nice and not pushy so I took him up on it. The show was on the second floor of a go go bar that you have to pass through. Things must be desperate because I was not five steps in before the go-go dancer were all on me trying to force me to sit and drink, “nope, going upstairs to see some ping pong action” to which they insisted I wait and have a drink with them first. The kid actually had to come back in and tell them that he promised me I’d see the show upstairs and they let me go. The show itself wasn’t that great; the usual girls on stage doing the same ol things with ping pong balls and bananas. I guess if you’ve seen one, you’ve pretty much seen them all. These performers didn’t seem to have it all together either; balls didn’t make it into glasses and one poor girl had a problem “blowing” out all the candles on the fake birthday cake. I actually would have stayed longer to see the actual sex show (there was a half naked muscular Asian dude and attractive girl getting ready to hit the stage next) but the particular bargirls were just annoying the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) out of me as I was trying to watch the show.
Constantly asking questions and just plain oblivious to the fact that I was only there to see some weird sex shit on stage. One of them (an old lady whose good days in this profession were over a long time ago) actually got frustrated to the point that she pointedly asked me “why you not look at lady? (the bargirls)” to whom I simply pointed to the lady on stage having sex with the banana and said, “I AM looking at lady...that one!” After that I just paid for my one drink and left, but not before being chased by the bargirls from the first floor who where insistent that I remain and drink there. NOPE! I left grabbed a cab and finally hit beach road. Pickings were not bad; saw various ranges of girls and some I just weren’t sure about. Saw one cute lil spinner walking my way and she made eye contact. As soon as she saw me look back it was “where you go?” to which I replied, “with you”. So far so good; only on Beach Road for about ten minutes and already had a cutie to take back and defile. Her name was Oom and she said that she had only been out about 15 minutes when we met. She tried to get 1000baht but I told her I only wanted ST and would give her 500. She first tried to say that the 1000 WAS for ST but then relented and decided to accept the 500.
We get into a tuktuk that already has 3 other passengers; 2 European sounding dudes and one old crazy-ass Katooey who may have been on drugs or just a nutter. She kept patting my knee and talking about the driver accusing him of asking for too much money (not sure if she meant me or herself). The other dudes got off at an earlier stop so now it’s just me, oom, and this crazy katoey who I can’t help but notice is sitting uncomfortably close to the point that I happen to glance down to see that she had worked the cargo pocket of my shorts open and almost had her fingers in to try to knick some baht. I immediately jumped up and moved to the opposite seat, I couldn’t tell if she was embarrassed or pissed at getting caught but she didn’t say anything and neither did I.
She got off at the next stop and Oom asked me why I moved. I didn’t want her to think I was an asshole against katooeys and told her that I caught the katooey trying to pick my pocket. Oom asked if I wanted to tell the tourist police but at that point I just wanted to screw and told her no since the old bag didn’t get anything.
Get back to the Vault and the girl at the desk simply asks Oom for ID and off we go to my Penthouse room for action! I learned awhile back that a decent room goes a long way with these girls and the suite I have really impressed this one. Showed her around and eventually ended up in the bedroom but first wanted to take a shower. She insisted I take mine first which I was slightly worried about but made sure to keep my wallet and stuff with me in the bathroom. I came out of the shower to her already naked looking for a towel. Body is a solid 9, no scars and some nice tattoo work on her chest and back. Nice rack, not big but perfect for a girl her size and she had a nice ass of which I was hoping to get to know better later on.
She takes her shower, comes out smelling good and after some casual talk, she proceed so slowly and sweetly perform a really good BBBJ. I was tempted to blow in her mouth but she decided at that moment to reach for the condom put it on and mount me cowgirl style. She was tight and eased herself slowly up and down my shaft while making small whimpering noises. After a few thrusts, she looked down at me and requested I do her missionary style to which I kindly obliged. We turned over and she wrapped her legs tightly around my waste as I plunged and grinded into her. She began pumping and grinding herself against me and now moaning and groaning loudly with pleasure. I could feel myself building to climax but didn’t want to until after I hit it doggie so pulled out and flipped her over on her hands and knees. She thrust her ass back onto my crank and began quickly moving back and forth; I didn’t even have to do anything as she was doing all the work. Even so, I still grabbed those perfect ass cheeks and spread em’ while ramming her enjoying the high pitched squeal she emitted with each pounding. Well I could tell I was done for and shot what felt like a gallon of joy juice into the condom (forgetting that I actually had planned to shoot on her face or in her mouth). She wouldn’t let me pull out and kept on grinding herself against me until she stiffened up came.
So afterwards we’re cleaning up and she wants to know when she can see me again. I tell here to give me a call anytime since having some ass on call could be a good thing. Going to see about doing her again tomorrow afternoon and maybe see if she might be up for a bit of group play. In the meantime, I just finished counting the money I DIDN’T spend on lady drinks and bar fines and it amounts to a pretty penny.
My total tally for the first day:
One gin and tonic each from three separate go-go: about 380 baht (they were priced differently at each place which made me a bit suspicious)
2 draft beers from two other go-gos: 90 baht for both (45 apiece)
Tuk Tuk rides: 30 baht
Beach Road freelancer: 500 Baht st
Total spent on drinks and booty: 1000baht!!!
I probably won’t be too welcome in the go-go once I repeat the pattern so will probably just stay away from them in favor of the smaller beer bars. I’ll try to get a few more Beach Road regulars or other freelancers “on the payroll” so I’ll have my booty needs sorted.
If I can stick to this plan then I should actually leave here WITH some money instead of putting a dent in my bank account.
Lover Boy #2
09-27-10, 05:56
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/world/asia/25iht-thai.html?pagewanted=2&ref=general&src=me
Worth reading for those visiting thailand for the first time. A lot is a rehash of what people have already mentioned in the forum. Just look at the quotes on what they are saying.
....amazing that the NY Times cannot get a simple definition straight. That is a tuk-tuk not a "samlor".
"Joseph and Nui Davis in their custom three-wheeled samlor".
"A picture caption in an earlier version of this article referred imprecisely to a three-wheeled vehicle. While the term tuk-tuk is often used loosely to refer to such vehicles, the one pictured is a samlor".
Lover Boy #2
09-27-10, 06:09
I'm an Indian myself and living in India for the last 30 years. I'm sorry on behalf of all Indians who spoil the game for others..i don't know what else to do...you are right on every word you say man..i agree..
Indian are not liked anywhere they go ...they are wrapped around their tiny heads to think India is all that exist around the world. They are kicked in Australia, they slave in US and europe and are not entertained in Thailand.
The few who understand and respect the global culture of humanity and respect would pass way over the head of majority of Indians. 99% of Indians have serious Psychological issues...they are brain dead and are incapable of understanding another culture and humans.
Not all are bad though many Indians who are global minded and visit these forums are cool and understand...but majority are just dumb cows..if you try to put some sense into them ...they will accuse you of being anti-indian.
If you tell that Indians smell bad due to eating habits and curry and Indians should use more deo and perfume ...they will accuse me of being anti-Indian...its sad really i pity my own people...its hopeless.
Think about it ...one of the most hated people in Pattaya are not the lady boys who pester tourist..even they have sense......but the Indian tailors...who left their brains on a sewing machine...just shaking hands with everyone and thinking everyone needs a f**cking suit in pattaya...its moronic and stupid f**ckfull shameful act of what they do to tourist in Thailand and bring bad names to all Indians.
These Indian tailors must be kicked out of Thailand to bring some sense of existence in Pattaya for other Indians who behave properly.
I don't know what else to do...i have given up...its frustrating ..no matter how many good Indians try to give a good image of us abroad..there are 100 other morons who spoil the place for rest of us...what can we do?
I think you are being a bit hard on yourself and your people.....although most of us see our fellow countrymen (German, Brit, American, whatever) at work and start to get that same sense of sickness in our stomach as we see our national language used and the idiot connected to it. This is natural.
Many of the Indian tailors came to Thailand during the Vietnam conflict and got their start around the US base in Udonthani.....really trying to scratch out an existence. As the economy flourished into the 80's and 90's they left the zones of earlier boom economy and chased the baht to BKK, Pattaya and elsewhere. The guys on the street are mostly from Nepal, working for their Indian brothers at a very low wage......let's pity them as their country has become a Maoist state and possibly they are true refugees??.......let's pity them instead of beating them down for engaging us (and possibly touching us) in annoying ways.
....and as it relates to clean breath......our Thai friends have been known to have the breath of the dragon......chillies and Lao food can be a real breath destroyer.....similar to curry......so why do the Thais always have something to say about the Indians "smell bad"?
Maybe it is all a matter of trying to push someone to the lowest rung on the totem pole??.....it seems a human nature.
Starchild2012
09-27-10, 06:13
So where do you fall in this overall percentile?
Most definitely in the 99% of Indian's who have Psychological issues :)...Man, i have been living here all my life...this disease is infectious...I I invite you to India and be my guest for couple of months and see if you are able to keep your sanity without fun. ISG and its members posts are an outlet to cure my issues. I can never write.. what i wrote here in an Indian centric forum..they will crucify me. ISG is a therapy for me :)
are you trying to bring to ISG the Indian "levels" that should be abandoned for good?
Hell no Bionicman...that would be the last day, i will ever post on ISG. This Indian thing, attitude should be dumped for ever. I just brought this up to show a perspective on where India stands with the world in terms of fun and attitude.
Starchild, why do you pick on the tailors, these people only try to make an honest living. The only reason I would buy a suite would be if I was invited to party in an high-rollers club (it is not happening), but other people may need or like one anyway, there os nothing wrong with that.
I understand your point...but there are 1 million other street vendors in Thailand who do not act the way Indian tailors do to get customers...Im sure there must be 100 other Thai tailors who will make a suit but don't use the tactic that Indian tailors do..
Once a tourist says NO ..... It means NO...why is it so hard for Indian tailors to understand that if a person needs a suit HE WILL COME TO YOU :)
Why does he goes all the way to shake his hand and force him into his store sometimes. Its an attitude....Making a suit isn't one of the greatest invention of mankind or man cannot live without it..its just a choice.
I never wanted to point it out and frankly im used to it..BUT i have read 10000 annoying complaints and disgust from european, American and other Asian tourist in many forums that its simply annoying to shake hands with Indian tailors. They don't live even Indian tourist alone...i was approached 10 times by same guys passing the same street...they use the cloth from India and i could get a suit made for 1/4th of the price here.
Its about honesty i agree but is also about decency and showing respect for other people and respecting their private space. No one like to shake hands with strangers on the road.
Starchild2012
09-27-10, 06:49
I think you are being a bit hard on yourself and your people.....although most of us see our fellow countrymen (German, Brit, American, whatever) at work and start to get that same sense of sickness in our stomach as we see our national language used and the idiot connected to it. This is natural.
Many of the Indian tailors came to Thailand during the Vietnam conflict and got their start around the US base in Udonthani.....really trying to scratch out an existence. As the economy flourished into the 80's and 90's they left the zones of earlier boom economy and chased the baht to BKK, Pattaya and elsewhere. The guys on the street are mostly from Nepal, working for their Indian brothers at a very low wage......let's pity them as their country has become a Maoist state and possibly they are true refugees??.......let's pity them instead of beating them down for engaging us (and possibly touching us) in annoying ways.
....and as it relates to clean breath......our Thai friends have been known to have the breath of the dragon......chillies and Lao food can be a real breath destroyer.....similar to curry......so why do the Thais always have something to say about the Indians "smell bad"?
Maybe it is all a matter of trying to push someone to the lowest rung on the totem pole??.....it seems a human nature.
You have good intentions Lover Boy....If you read my past post in the last 5 years or so...i have only said positive things about India and going the insane distance to protect Indians. But there is a limit to all things. I thought attitude against Indians would improve in Thailand once more Indians go there from difference social class..but it has only gotten worse.
Anways, I don't wanna bring down Pattaya thread to Indian vs talk...my last post on this and sorry if i have hurt any Indians or farangs feelings
... Anways, I don't wanna bring down Pattaya thread to Indian vs talk...my last post on this and sorry if i have hurt any Indians or farangs feelings
Not at all, Starchild. I for one find your reports fascinating as I never could quite understand why great p4p was not readily available in India in light of the abject poverty of the masses ... You have answered my questions ... What a pity that religion can suck all the joy out of all the people in an entire nation ... reducing them to "cows."
Sadly, this will be the fate of my own nation (USA) if the left and right wing morons have their way.
I saw this place the other night, not really knowing. What made me do a double take is that a girl I took from Lucifer in March was there when I walked by. The day that I took her she was drunk off Thai whiskey. Now I know where she gets it from. She must get liquored up in the Thai bar before going to Lucifer so she won't have to buy the 90 baht drinks there.
Location: Leaving out of Lucifer directly across and to the left is a small alley (I park my bike there when going to Walking Street). Probably 5 steps from the corner on the left is a red and black sign in western script and in Thai script. The western script says "Kab Tawan."
Haha! I was there the other night with some people. I saw 2 girls from Baccara. They showed up, got their buzz on quickly, then left to go back to work. I also saw 3 freelancers plow through a 700 (or 750ml?) bottle of whiskey and soda.
There is no 3G in Thailand. A court has blocked the concession bidding by the the telecommunication authority (I would be digressing).
So whatever it is, 2 or 2.5, etc it's not 3G, that is still far away.
I've used it (on my iphone and 3G dongle). TrueMove has recently expanded coverage in Pattaya too. 3G is available because it's in a trial phase and I think the companies are going through CAT (http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/telecom/188585/cat-relents-on-private-firms-3g-plans) and even though there's been complaints, and no official bidding, the network continues to grow and I don't see it stopping.
TrueMove has had 3G up and running for over a year now and I've been using it. You should click those links I posted (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1073372&postcount=6118) and you'll see the coverage map, etc. AIS offers 3G in Chonburi and parts of BKK for a higher price and less area coverage (doesn't have coverage in Pattaya)
Link: http://www.ais.co.th/mobileinternet/Network.html
Also they state on their site:
http://www.truemove.com/en/service-3g-4.html
"TrueMove is currently operating a 3G service on the 850 MHz frequency on a non-commercial trial basis and is waiting for approval to launch the service on a commercial basis. An auction will also be held by the government in the near future of 3G licenses on the 2.1 GHz frequency. "
On a side note - I mentioned Hutch in a previous post. I went into the shop yesterday and asked if their white EVDO dongle works in BKK. They said yes and it works around the BTS line and confirmed Nana, but when I was there along the BTS line it didn't work.
BeaverHunter
09-27-10, 09:49
Well so far, when I get to the hotel with the 2 companions that meet me at the airport, I did ST with one Tuk-ta one of the Kittens from Kitten Club. After that, showered up and wanted to check out Devils Den. There spoke to the guy running the place and filled me in on the deal here. I have a appointment with Gek and Bang in a couple of hours. Possibly looking for a religious experience. After talking to Devils Den manager, went to check out Champagne Agogo. BF a lady from there and she was very energetic (sorry don't remember name or number). We hit Lucifers, Angelwich and Misteys. Walking street is f'ing nuts.
Day 2 After waking up at 4pm mind you go for a 4th round with champagne girlie she takes off when I did some looking around as well as grab a bite at Beer Garden great food and place to meet. I do some bar hooping and scouting all the go-go's. Chatted up with Ao from Tiger. Very hot girl and talkative, but unfortunitely not possible to BF because she claims that her back was bothering her from an accident. Ok shit happens on to Baccara I go. Girls in here very hot in my opinion. Tried to chat up with a hot blonde girl, but she didn't seem interested so I just moved on to another joint. Interesting happens at next gogo, But I do not remember the name of the place. Later tonight I will walk by get the name. I have a warning for all of you.
Beaverhunter
LukeSkyWanker
09-27-10, 11:59
As I am staying at the LK Renaissance I have to walk up and down Soi Diana, Last night I stopped into a bar I have visited before, they seem to have more women than last year and prices for drinks are very reasonable. The bar is called little Susies and is mainly frequented by Englishmen. Met a really friendly nymphomaniac called Cai, teeth like a race horse but attractive none the less, she told me in no uncertain terms if I bar fine her I have to fuck her 5 times during the night. A really nice girl who truly loves boom boom.
Had a great time with her and bar fined her again tonight, I know I will not make the 5 times but she really tries to help you.
Attitude 10/10
Performance 9/10
Looks 6/10
Pussy tightness 9/10
BJ 8/10
May the force be with you.
....amazing that the NY Times cannot get a simple definition straight. That is a tuk-tuk not a "samlor".To be fair, the terms are often used pretty interchangeably. If it has three wheels it is, by definition, a samlor.
Anyhow most people in that part of Isaan would call that model a "Skylab".
LukeSkyWanker
09-27-10, 13:32
Some sick bastard has just spoilt my fun, just had a jacuzzi with Cai. She said she could do with a quick trim, being the gent I am I pulled out my Braun rechargeable to mow the grass. She was terrified and wouldn't come anywhere near me, when I calmed her down she said it was shock machine!
Apparently a few weeks ago a guy came into the bar with what must have been one of the cheap stun guns they sell on beach road, he wanted somebody to try it out. I can imagine Cai would volunteer, any way she tried it out and is shit scared of anything that buzzes or is electric. I had to use a conventional razor on the landing strip. Never forget these girls are human beings, cattle prods are for cattle. I hope the sick bastard is not a subscriber to ISG.
May the force be with you.
On my maiden trip to Pattaya and LOS back i think in 2007 I stayed at secrets which was great. I think at that time it was new?
I visited the bar once but could never understand it. All the girls were in a corner with a bunch of guys. Nothing seemed to happen. It wasn't a go go, no mamasan. It looked like a bar for some chaste fun in Pattaya
I searched the forum and could not find any reviews on it.
What is it about/what is the rule here? Can you barfine? How does it work or is it all chaste as it looked to me in 2007?
Mr Enternational
09-27-10, 17:56
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/world/asia/25iht-thai.html?pagewanted=2&ref=general&src=me
Worth reading for those visiting thailand for the first time. A lot is a rehash of what people have already mentioned in the forum. Just look at the quotes on what they are saying.Money can't buy love but it can definitely rent pussy.
Lover Boy #2
09-28-10, 05:09
To be fair, the terms are often used pretty interchangeably. If it has three wheels it is, by definition, a samlor.
Anyhow most people in that part of Isaan would call that model a "Skylab".Nope.
http://www.3wheelers.com/tuktuk.html
http://minyos.its.rmit.edu.au/~dwa/Samlor1.html
There is much citation on this. "samlor" does mean 3 wheels. But in common usage. The use of "samlor" is used for human powered tricycle. Invented by Loean Pongsopha. Tuk-Tuk is the motor driven one.
But that is the Skylab indeed!
the use of "samlor" is used for human powered tricycle....Or as a common abbreviation for สามล้อเครื่อง. If anyone wants to buy one, here's the website of one of the biggest manufacturers: www.atipongmotor.com. (For the record they call it a สามล้อเครื่องสกายแลป or, on their English pages, 'Samlor Skylab'.) I especially like their newest model, the 'Obama USA'.
Can we now return to our regularly scheduled programming?
Slackerslacker
09-28-10, 10:17
Outstanding! My plans exactly.
Oakwood (and others)
Please don't quote a entire humongous trip report just to make a one sentence comment. Actually, don't quote the whole thing for any reason.
No, I'm not the Administrator but it just makes sense.
...but in common usage...the use of "samlor" is used for human powered tricycle....invented by Loean Pongsopha. Tuk-Tuk is the motor driven one...The "human powered tricycle" is nowadays called "samlor thip" ("สามล้อถีบ") and when Thai people say only "samlor", they actually refer to the "samlor kruang" ("สามล้อเครื่อง") most of the time ("kruang" specifies that there is an engine in this context).
It's a little bit like the term "guitar". Nowadays, if someone says that he or she plays guitar, many people would think that it's an electric guitar (by default), if nothing else is added. Guitarists would often have to specify that their instrument is an acoustic guitar when it is not an electric one.
Nowadays, when nothing else is added, a "samlor" is (by default, in Thai people's mind) the "samlor kruang", not the "samlor thip".
A tuk-tuk is a different vehicle, even if it has also three wheels, you can notice (among other differences) that those wheels are shorter and wider on a tuk-tuk (on a "samlor thip", the wheels are similar to those of a bicycle, and on a "samlor kruang", they are like those of a motorcycle).
BeaverHunter
09-28-10, 13:48
The bar I ended up BF a girl was Living Dolls and the girls name is May. She has a small back tatoo as we as a tatoo and her left leg. Very thin girl. When BF her she informs me that she didn't know the BF price or a $ to charge me. So mamasan tells me 500 bht. and it's up to the girl about her price. This would be her first BF and all the girls and mamsan are happy for her. Anyway we agree to 1500 bht plus a tip if worthy of such. Long story short, what a pain in the ass. First she wouldn't shut the hell up about her family and life. Then back at the room she is very shy and nervous about sex being supposively her first BF. I get her relax and the her we go. She informs me that she never blew before and I am like wtf you kidding me. Ok we will work this it's like 4 am and I want to sleep. She tells me that she wants me to go all out on her and I do so without question for about 2 hours. Ok it's about 6 am and I want sleep, BUT she starts watching TV and calls her mom. I finally pass out maybe 7:30. At 9am, she wakes me shaking me saying she has to go and now. Now I am pissed and with pleasure agree that she must leave. I get dressed and throw her 1000 bht. With this she looks at me and is not happy. I told her look, you didn't want to suck. I am not getting a second hit at the puss and you kep me up all night with the tv and your phone calls. When I finally get to sleep you wake me up. So I said lets go and now. I led her down to the reception and basically throw her out the door.
Night 3 and tonight happens tomorrow
Beav.
SirHumpsaLott
09-28-10, 23:31
woke up at around 5:30 in the morning and wanted something to eat. i headed out to see if any breakfast joints were open only to run smack dab in the middle of the marine club and other joints that were either closing or looked to me to still be in full swing. i felt kind of underdressed in my shorts and t-shirt but decided to check things out anyway. again noticed a lot of what i suppose was russian chicks, many i had seen hours earlier the previous evening out on walking street who were by now looking very much the worse for wear. i noticed one of them, cute youngish looking blonde, giving me the eye but she appeared to be with a group of other women who were on the receiving end of a tongue lashing by another older member of their group. her look said "get me out of here" but i declined. russian chicks aside, there were plenty of other girls still hanging out who mostly seemed to be hardcore partying, drunk as hell, and looking for business, company, or both. i got propositioned by six thai gals who were all pretty little' stunners but i really wasn't in the mood, just wanted to eat.
i asked a guy leaving a bar with a hottie where the nearest breakfast joint was; he didn't know so i asked him what was with all these hot chicks still hanging out this time of the morning. he told me that many were girls getting off of work from the go-go getting their drunk on and now really ready to party! in essence, their shift over at the go go where they presumably don't drink much, they really cut loose after work; sort of like nyc cops who work the night shift then hit the cop bar at 6am. so this is an f. y. i to ya'll; check out the after hours joints near soi's 12-13 up those little alleys off of walking street for some off duty go-go hotties. that is if you don't mind waiting until 5 or 6 in the morning. it's also loud, very loud, so caveat emptor (sp?).
got some subway and hit the rack and woke up around 4pm to oum calling me to see if i wanted to see her. it was raining like a mother**cker which meant i wasn't going out so i told her to get a taxi to bring her cute little ass on over and a half hour later she was in my suite, naked and practicing her sword-swallowing act on my johnson. for some reason i was not really in the mood for a regular screw but just wanted to blow in her mouth but she wasn't up for it. she got me almost to the point that i must have squirted a little because she abruptly stopped slob- bobbing, looked at me kind of weird, then took a quick swig of water and reached for a condom. i asked her if she got "some" in her mouth and if she was ok; she just replied that it tasted sweet and put the condom on me. it was kind of a boring go this round since i wasn't really into it; we started and finished in missionary and i could tell by the way she was looking at me (over already?) that she didn't get her nut. didn't really care since i'm the one paying so she pretty much just showered and left. but not before she made me promise to call her again tomorrow (500baht btw).
rain had stopped so i showered and hit the streets to see what else was available. not much on beach road, probably due to the earlier weather but for some reason i had a hankering for a decent bbbj to cim. called a buddy and he suggested the bar u, lick me or something like that on soi 6. kind of put me off since i didn't want to do the lady drink or bar fine think but after recalling some of the reports about how relatively inexpensive the soi 6 places are, decided to relent and check it out. quick baht bus to the 6 found the place and was immediately picked up by a sweet little tight body named nit who led me into the bar where i ordered a double gin and tonic from the world weary looking dude behind the bar. oh yea, while this was going on, nit was busy unzipping my shorts, reaching in and stroking jr all in front of the other customer at the bar and the bartender, each of which i suppose did not give two shits. i however wasn't cool so nit led me over to a darkened room off to the side behind some beads. we sat on the couch and she proceeded to continue her earlier ministrations. she didn't say much other than comments about how big my "little brother" was getting and i think was almost about to give me head right then and there but i stopped her and asked about short time and where to get some privacy. at first i though she said 1000 baht but i heard her wrong because when i said "what? " she explained 300 for the bar fine and 400 for the lady; 700 baht! what! really?! i asked her again for clarification and she repeated the same figures so i said wtf and went for it. then i thought more about it and my friend did tell me that the place was mainly for blowjobs so i guess that explains what i figure are lower prices.
anyway, went out the back and into another door that led to a very steep staircase that i sort of worried how nit would safely navigate in her porno/stripper high heels. we safely got to the top and into a modestly furnisher room; bed, towels, couple of pillows and a tv set. we got undressed and just the sight of her tight little naked body was almost enough to end if for me then and there! she took out some wet knaps and began cleaning little' man while at the same time licking and sucking my nipples. after about a minute of this i lie down on the bed and she got to work licking balls, ass, and sucking shaft. man oh man this girl knows what she is doing! she started kind of slow and increased her speed by gauging my reactions. she even tried to deep throat me to the hilt! she twisted her head back and forth on the head while using her hands to jerk the shaft; this was real porno sucking only minus all that bullshit spitting and gagging. after awhile she began moaning exxxstatically as if fellatio was the most wonderful thing she could be doing! i mean this girl really got into it! i was about to blow but wanted to try something first; asked her to stop for a minute and if we could try anal, she asked how much i'd give her for the ass and i told her another 400 for at least trying (not bragging when i say i have a biggun' and if she did manage to get it in, she'd be earning it and to be honest, i'd probably give her more).
i watch as she ky's first my now condom covered cock and then she flips over on all fours and lubes up her tight little rosebud of an asshole. she then takes hold of my dick then slowly backs her ass onto it, she takes a deep gasp as first the tip pushes its way in then lets out a yelp as the rest slowly follows. i have as yet to do anything on my own; at this point she is doing all the work. once i'm pretty all the way up her ass i begin a slow rhythmic pumping as she also pushes back. it was hot and tight and i had to spread her cheeks to see my johnson disappearing up her rectum because i couldn't believe she took it. she lay on her stomach and began sucking my fingers as i pounded her asshole. as good as it felt, i still for some reason wanted to finish with the cim so after a few more minutes i stopped, pulled out and told her what i wanted. she took the condom off wiped my dick off with another wet knap and recommenced her previous suck job. as can probably be guessed i didn't last too much longer and finally got my wish by blasting a right and proper full load into her mouth of which she did not miss a drop! she get sucking and stroking until she was sure i was spent then took my john thomson out of her mouth and before doing anything else, wiped me off. since i didn't see her spit it out yet, i was watching to see what she did with the cum. i'm still not sure because i asked her a question about something and first she began talking with her mouth full but then when we were getting ready to hit the shower, i noticed she was talking normally. i didn't see her spit it out nor anywhere she could have so i think she accidentally swallowed my load while trying to talk with it still in.
she washed me in the shower and remarkably enough, began sucking me again! i could not believe it and had to stop her, telling her that she was killing me and taking all my power. she tried it a couple of more times as we were getting dress and seemed to get a kick out of getting me hard again. of all the girls i've been with over here i have never met one as enthusiastic about bj's as this girl! anyway, i gave her a 600 baht tip since she swallowed and seemed to enjoy what she was doing, told her i'd see her again tomorrow then left.
i ended up hitting walking street from there since it is on the way back to my hotel and got caught in the rain. took shelter at one of the bars there and sat next to a white chick who was sitting alone. she was fairly attractive, 5, 2, probably mid 30's, nice figure, brunette with brown eyes. she was drinking what i guessed was a crème de menthe shot along with a beer so seeing an open, asked her what the green drink was. in a thick russian accent she replied "mint" and if i would like to try some? i told her she could keep hers since it was almost finished but i'd like to do another shot with her to which she agreed and i ordered up. after the shots she asked me what i was doing in thailand and i told her vacation, when asked her she said she was here on business. i then asked her what business she was in to which she looked at me and replied "fucking, dahlink". i jokingly then asked if she was buying or selling and that got a laugh. i told her i was interested in her business and how much an investment would be; 1500 baht for st.
now i really wasn't t that horny since blowing my load a half hour earlier but i never had any of these russian (or anything else but asian) in pattaya and something told me to give this a whirl. i agreed to her price, we get a moped taxi then head to my suite. get there and she wants to smoke first and have a drink so i fix us both some g&t's and she proceeds to tell me a little about herself; name's natalya, from kiev, has one daughter, been in thailand for two years. she bugs me about why i'm still single and paying for p**sy; i tell her i'm not really paying for the p**sy per se', but rather for the lady to kindly leave once i'm done with it. she laughs and we retire to the bedroom, she strips revealing a decent looking body; about a 7 i'd say.
we rub our naked bodies against each other then she pushes my head down between her legs for some daty action. i oblige but i have a two minute limit when i'm paying so when the time was up, suckled her teats before lying on my back with my willie pointing to the ceiling begging for some attention. she got the hint and began a decent bb bj but i guess she has the same two minute rule because she quickly finished then reached for the condom.
condom on and i started humping away. she was a good lay; loud and moaning things in russian, maybe cursing. she pushes me out and flips over on her hands and knees and we begin a vigorous and rough doggie style screw that brought her to orgasm and me to pain. i rolled her back over for missionary and begin a nice steady rhythm. after a few minutes i could feel climax approaching then she muttered something into my ear that i thought was "f*ck me". i didn't think much of it because she had said it already many times before but she repeated louder and what she actually said was "[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) me". i actually stopped humping and said "what, you want me to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) you? " "yes, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) me! " now i have no idea how, or desire to, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) anyone, willing or not, so i just winged it and talked dirty while banging her really hard. truth be told, she kind of put me off when she said that but i still managed to bust a nut by putting her legs over my shoulders and watching her eyes roll back into her head.
afterwards she started smoking again, i'm a non-smoker and the smell makes me sick, and was taking forever to leave. i really wanted her out of there since it was coming up on 04:30 and she was stinking up the joint with cig smoke so told her i was getting ready to sleep. she got the hint but wasn't too happy about being rushed. i told her that she was the one who said short time and that is all i wanted, i also reminded her about the earlier reason i told her about paying the ladies to leave, not stay. she actually laughed but got dressed and shortly left.. so i'm down a bit of baht today and had i stopped at just screwing oum i would have only spent 500.. i'm still a believer in popper's philosophy but my own particular quirks and cravings forced me to do otherwise. all in all and expensive day (3800 baht) given my original budgetary intent but no regrets due to the insinuating circumstances; rain, unexpected enthusiastic bbbj/cim/swallow, and unexpected russian chick.
SirHumpsaLott
09-29-10, 00:07
I popped in there earlier to dodge the rain, have a drink and check the place out for a possible future stay but it seemed to me that except for the ladies at the door, most of the dancers there were ladyboys.
To each their own but they really should let people know if this is the case, especially since the banner ads on this site don't give any indication (I was hoping to see chicks like the one one in the advert pic). They should at least ask a customer's preference at the door; I ended up leaving without drinking anything after being surrounded and sat on by three katooeys.
Again; I have nothing against them or those that like em', I just don't get the whole assumption by them that just any straight man looking for girls is just going to say eff it and accept and desire them as women. Maybe they figure nothing ventured, nothing gained?
Evil Penivel
09-29-10, 00:26
This conversation took place in a Pattaya bar with coyote dancers and hostesses. The characters are me (EP) and one of the dancers (D)
Scene: A bar I won't name, around 11 p.m. in the evening. I'm sitting in a corner, talking to several hostesses. During her off-stage time, D comes over uninvited and sits next to me.
D: I want you bar fine me tonight.
EP: That's a nice introduction. I'm happy to meet you, too.
D: What you say?
EP: I don't think I have met you before.
D: You talk to me two nights before.
EP: I don't think so.
D: You too drunk. Not remember.
EP: I wasn't drunk enough to not remember you.
D: You say hello, watch me dance.
EP: Oh, a one-word conversation.
D: What you say?
EP: We didn't talk long.
D: Not long, but you watch me dance.
EP: Did I like it?
D: Yes
EP: I'm glad you're so clear on the details of our relationship.
D: What you say?
EP: You remember many things I don't.
D: Never mind. I want you bar fine me.
EP: And how much do you want to stay overnight?
D: 5,000 baht.
EP: That's optimistic.
D: What you say?
EP: You are feeling lucky tonight. Are you joking?
D: You think I joking? I not joking.
EP: I don't think you are joking. (I then put on an exaggerated sad face)
D: (After a pause) Why sad?
EP: I don't think you like me.
D: Why you say that?
EP: Lady sometimes says silly money to make man go away if she not like him.
D: I like you.
EP: No, I go away now.
D: OK. 4,000 baht.
EP: Chek bin
D: ...For two ladies
EP: Two ladies???? What two ladies?
D: Me, friend (points to one of the hostesses)
EP: I don't see.
D: She there (pointing)
EP: I don't see
D: She THERE!
EP: (pretending I don't see) You are the only lady I see in this bar. (then a big smile)
D: Bakwahn!
EP: If my breath reeked of vinegar, you would still be the only lady for me in this bar, in all of Pattaya. (gesturing broadly)
D: What you say?
EP: If I had drunk a bottle of vinegar, you would still be the only lady for me.
D: What vinegar?
EP: Very sour, put on food, cannot have sweet mouth if drink.
D: You tingtong.
EP: But I have a good time.
D: (laughing) I tingtong too. I like tingtong man.
EP: Maybe I am not tingtong enough to bar fine you.
D: I want you bar fine me.
EP: And how much do you want to stay overnight?
D: You only want one lady?
EP: Yes, only you.
D: You bar fine many ladies before. Friend tell me you bar fine five one time. Why you Cheap Charlie tonight?
EP: (in a sterner tone) I am getting tired of this conversation.
D: OK, OK. (names a reasonable price)
EP: I'll think about it.
D: Why you think? You think too much! I only joking before.
EP: I worry it not be so good for me - you talk too many strange things.
D: I tingtong! (laughing) But it good for you.
EP: Maybe I am really tingtong, but OK, I do it.
And it was very good! She stayed with me for about a week.
I can't imagine the above conversation taking place anywhere but a bar in Thailand. It's one of the reasons I love my vacations in LOS.
This little episode also illustrates some advice I got all the way back in 1979: if the girl suggests an absurd price, it is her way of rejecting a customer without causing him to lose face. Instead of saying, "You're so repulsive I can't bring myself to fuck you even for money," she says "3,000 baht" (or 4,000 or 5,000, whatever). That way, the customer rejects her and no face is lost.
For me, there's also a difference between settling the price in advance and negotiating the price. I never negotiate, but I do make sure she doesn't expect a silly price. If she does, I'll call chek bin. Should she respond by immediately lowering her price to a reasonable level, I might (MIGHT) take a chance on her. But I never try to bargain her down.
Evil
Mr Enternational
09-29-10, 02:15
For me, there's also a difference between settling the price in advance and negotiating the price. I never negotiate, but I do make sure she doesn't expect a silly price. If she does, I'll call chek bin. Should she respond by immediately lowering her price to a reasonable level, I might (MIGHT) take a chance on her. But I never try to bargain her down.I use a similar strategy. I would more so say though that I don't haggle. If I receive a price higher than my target price I just look at the girl like she is crazy and say, "Okay, now be serious." I let her come down on her own until she reaches my target. If she is nowhere near it I just find someone else. If I do mention an amount then it is only my target amount. Example: She says 2500. I say 1000. She says 2000. I repeat with 1000. She eventually understands that I'm not moving from 1000. She can agree or not. If not, then I just walk away and look for somebody else. If you have to do too much haggling then you are probably in for a shitty time so it's best to find someone else anyway.
I use a similar strategy. I would more so say though that I don't haggle. If I receive a price higher than my target price I just look at the girl like she is crazy and say, "Okay, now be serious." I let her come down on her own until she reaches my target. If she is nowhere near it I just find someone else. If I do mention an amount then it is only my target amount. Example: She says 2500. I say 1000. She says 2000. I repeat with 1000. She eventually understands that I'm not moving from 1000. She can agree or not. If not, then I just walk away and look for somebody else. If you have to do too much haggling then you are probably in for a shitty time so it's best to find someone else anyway.
Hummm ... sounds like negotiating to me ... :)
nah - negotiation is "give and take" then a meeting of the price. This was "take it or leave it - mai ben rai"
Gin And Tonic
09-29-10, 07:13
On my maiden trip to Pattaya and LOS back i think in 2007 I stayed at secrets which was great. I think at that time it was new?
I visited the bar once but could never understand it. All the girls were in a corner with a bunch of guys. Nothing seemed to happen. It wasn't a go go, no mamasan. It looked like a bar for some chaste fun in Pattaya
I searched the forum and could not find any reviews on it.
What is it about/what is the rule here? Can you barfine? How does it work or is it all chaste as it looked to me in 2007?I bar fined a little sweetie from there in dec./09. Seems much like a beer bar with dancers. Very regimented. Fines if they are a few mins. late. Must pay to get day off. Kept in touch with her my 2 months there. If she stayed with me she would have to drop off bar fine by a certain time. Although she had been married and had a 8 year old back home in the north she seem a bit naive with sex. I bought a massager at Royal Garden and placed it on her pussy. In about 15 seconds she came so hard she thought she had had a heart attack.
I popped in there earlier to dodge the rain, have a drink and check the place out for a possible future stay but it seemed to me that except for the ladies at the door, most of the dancers there were ladyboys.
To each their own but they really should let people know if this is the case, especially since the banner ads on this site don't give any indication (I was hoping to see chicks like the one one in the advert pic). They should at least ask a customer's preference at the door; I ended up leaving without drinking anything after being surrounded and sat on by three katooeys...The Penthouse Hotel advertises one of its clubs (Pattaya Obsessions) as the "Pattaya's Premiere Ladyboy venue". Actually, Kitten Club and Obsessions are two go-go bars in one. They each have their own entrance but they lead to the same bar. This has been discussed earlier in several threads and posts (some of them were deleted, but the information is still available, for instance here: 1014775).
By the way, if you move your mouse pointer over their banner advertisement, you should be able to read the following "... Kitten Club girls and Pattaya Obsessions LBs...", with "LBs" meaning "Labyboys", of course!
Member #4148
09-29-10, 10:21
Any African tail to be had here?
(I figure if there's Russian, then?)
... Anyway we agree to 1500 bht plus a tip if worthy of such...
... I get dressed and throw her 1000 bht. With this she looks at me and is not happy...Even if she probably did not deserve more than 1000 baht, you agreed to give her at least 1500 baht, so, you should have given this amount... unless, of course, if you have made it very clear beforehand that you expect certain services from your girl and a minimum of intercourses with her during the night. If you didn't specify anything clearly enough, then, it's understandable that she was not happy and I would not (totally) blame her, especially as she is apparently pretty new to the game, at least, in Pattaya... and it's better for you, because she probably doesn't know yet too much people there.
Be very careful, because many foreigners have been beaten up for lesser than that. If a working girl explains to her Thai male friends that you did not pay the agreed price (especially if she believes that it was unfair), they will certainly consider that it is a reason good enough to teach you a "Muay Thai lesson" of their own!
For your information, many services that are considered as the norm for the foreigners are not yet a common practice for the local P4P girls who have not spent much time in tourist-oriented places. For instance, a blowjob (covered or not) is often considered as an extra in the local brothels catering mostly to Thai punters and it is not always on the menu. Even if the situation is improving to this respect, probably more than 50% of the younger providers refuse to perform it or suck (pun intended) at it in the local brothels of Isan (Northeastern Thailand, the region of origin of most of the girls working in Pattaya and other tourist-oriented places in Thailand).
Of course, a girl who has already worked some time in Pattaya would know what services a foreigner usually expects, but I'm pretty sure that your provider did not have a clue when you made the deal, hence the misunderstanding and her disappointment.
It's just a friendly advice, but IMHO, things should be clarified beforehand. The more, the better. Any single thing that is not specified clearly enough may be the source of some trouble later. But you should give the benefit of the doubt to your provider, and if you haven't been specific enough, just pay the agreed amount. A 500 baht difference is not worth the trouble that you could have if the girl is angry and has a few local male friends...
SirHumpsaLott
09-29-10, 12:25
The Penthouse Hotel advertises one of its clubs (Pattaya Obsessions) as the "Pattaya's Premiere Ladyboy venue". Actually, Kitten Club and Obsessions are two go-go bars in one. They each have their own entrance but they lead to the same bar. This has been discussed earlier in several threads and posts (some of them were deleted, but the information is still available, for instance here: 1014775).
By the way, if you move your mouse pointer over their banner advertisement, you should be able to read the following "... Kitten Club girls and Pattaya Obsessions LBs...", with "LBs" meaning "Labyboys", of course!I kind of figured that I was missing something. Now that I know the real deal I'll be sure to check it out again with "fresh eyes".
Thanks again,
SH
Even if she probably did not deserve more than 1000 baht, you agreed to give her at least 1500 baht, so, you should have given this amount... unless, of course, if you have made it very clear beforehand that you expect certain services from your girl and a minimum of intercourses with her during the night. If you didn't specify anything clearly enough, then, it's understandable that she was not happy and I would not (totally) blame her, especially as she is apparently pretty new to the game, at least, in Pattaya... and it's better for you, because she probably doesn't know yet too much people there.
Be very careful, because many foreigners have been beaten up for lesser than that. If a working girl explains to her Thai male friends that you did not pay the agreed price (especially if she believes that it was unfair), they will certainly consider that it is a reason good enough to teach you a "Muay Thai lesson" of their own!
For your information, many services that are considered as the norm for the foreigners are not yet a common practice for the local P4P girls who have not spent much time in tourist-oriented places. For instance, a blowjob (covered or not) is often considered as an extra in the local brothels catering mostly to Thai punters and it is not always on the menu. Even if the situation is improving to this respect, probably more than 50% of the younger providers refuse to perform it or suck (pun intended) at it in the local brothels of Isan (Northeastern Thailand, the region of origin of most of the girls working in Pattaya and other tourist-oriented places in Thailand).
Of course, a girl who has already worked some time in Pattaya would know what services a foreigner usually expects, but I'm pretty sure that your provider did not have a clue when you made the deal, hence the misunderstanding and her disappointment.
It's just a friendly advice, but IMHO, things should be clarified beforehand. The more, the better. Any single thing that is not specified clearly enough may be the source of some trouble later. But you should give the benefit of the doubt to your provider, and if you haven't been specific enough, just pay the agreed amount. A 500 baht difference is not worth the trouble that you could have if the girl is angry and has a few local male friends...I don't blame him for giving her 1k, a LT session should Include sex In the morning mininum, otherwise It's just a ST, my mate and me had the same situation from two gogo dancers once, they hatched a plan by phone at 6am, woke us up fully dressed, saying they must go now to temple, ok sure no problem, I gave my girl 1k note, she say not enough for LT, I told her It not LT, I should of charged her for sleeping In my room, her friend come to my room, and tell me my friend gave her 1500b, BS I know him, didn't even need to call him, just waved them bye bye, have nice day at temple.
I don't blame him for giving her 1k, a LT session should Include sex In the morning mininum, otherwise It's just a ST...Apparently, he did not require sex in the morning (he might have gotten it provided that he asked for it, but he wanted to get rid of the girl then). His girl was (apparently again) a complete newbie here, so, she very likely never had a LT session with a foreigner before and probably did not know what is the "standard" modus operandi in Pattaya. Many things went wrong in this case, but, with all due respect and IMHO, not only because of this girl. For instance, if you are tired and want to sleep, you just have to say it to the girl, then switch off the lights and turn the TV off. It's just that easy!
Anyway, my point is that a little bit more communication and some discussion beforehand about his desiderata would not have hurt (especially with a girl that is pretty new to the game), again IMHO, and would have helped to prevent some disappointment for both parties.
New Old Guy
09-29-10, 16:14
I agreee with the 1K dismissal, it is clear the girl was lazy and unwilling to please, then all deals are off, giving less is right and hopefully she learns the lesson.
That happened to me more than once and in my experience the girls understood where their fault was, and were OK with reducent compensation.
Yesterday I brought in two chicks for a little three-party action. that was not bad in the beginning, but as it happens, one quickly lost the will and wanted to go after just one round. Promised money was 1K each for "long time", at that point I wanted to give 500 only, the other girls interceded for 700, so that's what I gave, no bad feelings, and off she went still smiling.
I agreee with the 1K dismissal, it is clear the girl was lazy and unwilling to please, then all deals are off, giving less is right and hopefully she learns the lesson...IMHO, the initial deal was not specific enough in this case. Remember that the girl was a complete newbie and she did stay the whole night. I'm not sure that she really was "lazy and unwilling to please", but she surely did not have much experience (if any) with foreigners before this night. That's why (IMHO), more things should have been clarified beforehand (what will be the services provided and those that won't be offered, how many shots will be allowed, at what time will the session end, etc.).
It's not exactly the same case than when an experienced working girl leaves your room almost immediately after only one round. With an experienced girl who already knows the ropes, I too would not give as much money than for a real LT session if the girl wants to leave after just one shot.
But in this case, it is not entirely the girl's fault (again, IMHO): at least, there was not enough clarification beforehand with a girl who is apparently a complete newbie in Pattaya. And our fellow ISG member could have managed (again IMHO) the time spent with her more efficiently. He's probably a nice guy and a gentleman with the working girls, but he must remain the boss in his own room and don't let his guest watching TV and making phone calls when he wants to sleep! Of course, it should be explained politely, calmly, but firmly, and it's usually well-understood then.
Hi
Stickman reports that the US Navy is due to be in town 'from the end of this month'.
I'd rather avoid this. Does anyone know the precise dates they're due to arrive and leave?
Thanks in advance.
A
GregLondon
09-29-10, 18:59
Hi
Stickman reports that the US Navy is due to be in town 'from the end of this month'.
I'd rather avoid this. Does anyone know the precise dates they're due to arrive and leave?
Thanks in advance.
AHotel rooms seem to be heavily booked from 30 Sept to 8 Oct so I suspect that is your answer.
Evil Penivel
09-29-10, 19:47
On my maiden trip to Pattaya and LOS back i think in 2007 I stayed at secrets which was great. I think at that time it was new?
...
What is it about/what is the rule here? Can you barfine? How does it work or is it all chaste as it looked to me in 2007?Secrets is a hostess bar with coyotee dancers. The girls - whether hostess or dancer - who wear green lanyards around their necks can be barfined. Red lanyards, worn by the service staff, mean "no go."
Otherwise, it fucntions like everywhere else - meet the lady, talk with her and ask if she'd like to go with you. If she says "yes," you pay the bar fine and reach agreement with her on the compensation for her services.
Evil
Secrets is a hostess bar with coyotee dancers. The girls - whether hostess or dancer - who wear green lanyards around their necks can be barfined. Red lanyards, worn by the service staff, mean "no go."
Otherwise, it fucntions like everywhere else - met the lady, talk with her and ask if she'd like to go with you. If she says "yes," you pay the bar fine and reach agreement with her on the compensation for her services.
EvilThanks, things must have changed, no dancers when I was there.
ThaiLearner
09-29-10, 22:55
I popped in there earlier to dodge the rain, have a drink and check the place out for a possible future stay but it seemed to me that except for the ladies at the door, most of the dancers there were ladyboys.
To each their own but they really should let people know if this is the case, especially since the banner ads on this site don't give any indication (I was hoping to see chicks like the one one in the advert pic). They should at least ask a customer's preference at the door; I ended up leaving without drinking anything after being surrounded and sat on by three katooeys.
Again; I have nothing against them or those that like em', I just don't get the whole assumption by them that just any straight man looking for girls is just going to say eff it and accept and desire them as women. Maybe they figure nothing ventured, nothing gained?It is both girls and lady boys
Thanks, things must have changed, no dancers when I was there.I went into Secrets about 4-weeks ago and they certainly had dancers. Poor layout if you sit at the bar though, too many blind spots.
New Old Guy
09-30-10, 08:05
I met one girl who taught herself English by watching movies on TV that had Thai subtitles. Her English is quite good and she tries to study her English language books a little bit everyday. She even reads and writes English quite well.That proves once more how it is possible for everyone to change things around and be ahead of the much competition. I hope this girl will be rewarded for her tenacity, unlike all the lazy bodies sitting there doing nothing all day, hoping for a dick with a wallet to come in rescue every day.
That proves once more how it is possible for everyone to change things around and be ahead of the much competition. I hope this girl will be rewarded for her tenacity, unlike all the lazy bodies sitting there doing nothing all day, hoping for a dick with a wallet to come in rescue every day.Her feat is admirable but despite her self-motivation and English proficiency where would she market herself to get ahead of the "competition" and a better paying job over the girls you’re deriding? It’s not like there’s a viable economic market out there for uneducated Thai girls who can speak English. Laziness is not always the reason these uneducated girls turn pro. Given their overall situation, in many cases turning pro is optimal in their survival.
New Old Guy
09-30-10, 10:34
Her feat is admirable but despite her self-motivation and English proficiency where would she market herself to get ahead of the "competition" and a better paying job over the girls you’re deriding? It’s not like there’s a viable economic market out there for uneducated Thai girls who can speak English. Laziness is not always the reason these uneducated girls turn pro. Given their overall situation, in many cases turning pro is optimal in their survival.RM, I am perfectly aware of the job situation in Thailand, all I meant to say is that I whish she builds an advantage over the other sex workers while staying in her current profession, gain more loyal customers and possibly a sponsor in the future. Maybe I am partial to self-taught people being one myself.
BTW I am not deriding anybody in saying that, and I think everybody will agree that there is a great deal of laziness among TGs.
RM, I am perfectly aware of the job situation in Thailand, all I meant to say is that I whish she builds an advantage over the other sex workers while staying with the her current profession, get more loyals customers and possibly a sponsor in the future. BTW I am not deriding anybody in saying that, that there is a great deal of laziness amoing TGs, that I think everybody will agree.Your comment about "hoping for a dick with a wallet to come in rescue every day" is derisive and upon reflection you may grasp why it was a cheap and unnecessary shot.
New Old Guy
09-30-10, 10:51
Your comment about "hoping for a dick with a wallet to come in rescue every day" is derisive and upon reflection you may grasp why it was a cheap and unnecessary shot.Derisive for us the walking dicks perhaps ?
What I grasp easily is that you suffer of excessive mental stiffness, and feel the urge to defend who I did not ever attacked.
Needless to say, if you don't like me or my writing, that is what the ignore list is for (you are on mine already), but please spare us further quibbling over nothing.
This little episode also illustrates some advice I got all the way back in 1979: if the girl suggests an absurd price, it is her way of rejecting a customer without causing him to lose face. Instead of saying, "You're so repulsive I can't bring myself to fuck you even for money," she says "3,000 baht" (or 4,000 or 5,000, whatever). That way, the customer rejects her and no face is lost.
For me, there's also a difference between settling the price in advance and negotiating the price. I never negotiate, but I do make sure she doesn't expect a silly price. If she does, I'll call chek bin. Should she respond by immediately lowering her price to a reasonable level, I might (MIGHT) take a chance on her. But I never try to bargain her down.
EvilGood advice I think even for *experienced* guys!
Derisive for us the walking dicks perhaps ?
What I grasp easily is that you suffer of excessive mental stiffness, and feel the urge to defend who I did not ever attacked.
Needless to say, if you don't like me or my writing, that is what the ignore list is for, but please spare us further quibbling over nothing.Heed your own advice and thanks for your swift, long distance diagnosis "doc". Love posters like you who when challenge and can’t advance their nonsensical points on the merits resort to garbage like this.
I was under the impression that bar fines and lady drinks are de rigeur and unavoidable.
Popper1 writes: BFs and LDs are for Noobs, Suckers, and Tourists.
As an official noob and tourist who is trying mostly not to be a sucker in life, I would like to know how you avoid these things?You can avoid these things for instance if you favor encounters with freelancers or with girls working in the local brothels. By the way, it is "de rigueur" in French.
Mr Enternational
09-30-10, 20:38
The question I have is who in the hell walks around Pattaya with a taser in their hand?
Agreed.
I have a Thai ladyfriend, yea I have taken her, and not taken her and just chilled in BKK eating outside with her. And she is quite noticeable because she is slim(no kids) and somewhat big breasts. She basically quotes guys she does not consider the least bit good looking 5000+, she figures well if he is very pom pooey, and going to pay that, she can be done in 15 minutes and go home for the night.
You can learn alot from the ladies, if you just talk to them one on one as a person, free Thai teacher. LOL
This little episode also illustrates some advice I got all the way back in 1979: if the girl suggests an absurd price, it is her way of rejecting a customer without causing him to lose face. Instead of saying, "You're so repulsive I can't bring myself to fuck you even for money, " she says "3, 000 baht" (or 4, 000 or 5, 000, whatever). That way, the customer rejects her and no face is lost.
For me, there's also a difference between settling the price in advance and negotiating the price. I never negotiate, but I do make sure she doesn't expect a silly price. If she does, I'll call chek bin. Should she respond by immediately lowering her price to a reasonable level, I might (MIGHT) take a chance on her. But I never try to bargain her down.
Evil
Greetings Everyone,
I recently cleaned up this thread by deleting a number of off-topic and otherwise worthless posts by Masterplan, as well as a number responses made by other forum members to these deleted posts.
This cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.
In addition, Masterplan has been erased and banned from the forum, and all IP addresses used by him have been recorded in my "Troublemaker's Database" for identification of future aliases.
Thanks,
Jackson
Slackerslacker
10-01-10, 07:17
Great Job!!
From Pattaya Mail; 1/10/10
Pattaya welcomes USS George Washington and support ships
US Carrier group arriving this weekend
The aircraft carrier USS George Washington (CVN 73), USS Cowpens (CG 63), and USS McCampbell (DDG 85) are scheduled to arrive at Laem Chabang Port on Saturday, October 2, at 9:00 a.m.
The US Carrier group is here on a goodwill visit that will further enhance the strong historic ties between the United States and the Kingdom of Thailand through community relations projects and professional exchanges between U.S. and Royal Thai Navy counterparts.
Whilst here, activities include giving sailors a chance to meet and chat with orphans at Baan Jing Jai Home Banglamung. Sailors also will paint the Baan Khao Chi Chan School Sattahip and interact with students there, paint the Mafacthong School Banglamung and chat with students there, repair and paint the Huay Yai School, meet and chat with students at the Blind School Pattaya, improve the grounds at the Elderly Age Home Banglamung by planting flowers and plants, clean up the Karunwet Disabled Home in Banglamung, and repair and paint the Jitapawan Temple.
As much as I wish them all well, it's too bad they aren't going to Bangkok.
I doubt that their activities will be limited to chatting with orphans, painting schools and temples.
Member #4148
10-01-10, 15:53
You can avoid these things for instance if you favor encounters with freelancers or with girls working in the local brothels. By the way, it is "de rigueur" in French....bar fines MUST be paid in bars with mamasans and shows, correct?
Thanks for correcting my typo.
LukeSkyWanker
10-01-10, 16:04
Had a night in Bamboo with my regular, drinks about 100 baht each but a good band. Had a great time, different from the normal routine of picking a bar or agogo, lots of decent looking women in the place prowling for victims. Not sure of the pricing arrangements but you don't need to pay a bar fine. The band played YMCA and the dance floor was full of 50-60 year old John Travoltas making real cunts of themselves but who cares great laugh.
Went back a couple of nights later with 4 ladies I bar fined from the same bar, when I told them I was going dancing virtually the whole bar wanted to come, I said I would take no more than four. I have never had my cock stroked as much as they were desperate to come. Walked in Bamboo like James Bond 2 girls on each arm, treated like royalty by the staff there, Thailand is all about status my status must have looked good. Got shit loads of attention from girls who weren't in my "party" they must have thought something was going on and they wanted to be part of it.
Could have fucked anyone of the 4 or more likely all 4, just had the one.
Damage; 4 bar fines 1200 baht, 4 rounds of drinks around 2000baht so about £65 well spent!
May the force be with you.
LSW
Nice report, well done.
Edited, Solly, I was thinking of Bamboo Bangkok, not Bamboo Pattaya near to Walking St, not had a drink either:)
Have deleted Bamboo Bangkok text.
Only 6 weeks to go till next visit :)
Redfield10
10-02-10, 01:09
From Pattaya Mail; 1/10/10
As much as I wish them all well, it's too bad they aren't going to Bangkok.
I doubt that their activities will be limited to chatting with orphans, painting schools and temples.Cobra operations were taking place last time I was in Pattaya.
It doesn't really make a dent on the availability of women.
RM, I am perfectly aware of the job situation in Thailand, all I meant to say is that I whish she builds an advantage over the other sex workers while staying in her current profession, gain more loyal customers and possibly a sponsor in the future. Maybe I am partial to self-taught people being one myself.
BTW I am not deriding anybody in saying that, and I think everybody will agree that there is a great deal of laziness among TGs.I agree with both. As I have had several thai gfs. Now I have six filipina gfs.
And many of these girls are lazy. But its the girls that I tend to like are the ones that do not have as much opportunity. But for instance. One girl that I support. Hot and 19 yo. I ask her for massage and after five minutes she says she is tired? My fault for letting her get away with it but she does perform well in bed.
I think many similarities with thai and filipinas. I am in Thailand now with my number one filipina girl.
Looking for some hot thai girls.
BeaverHunter
10-03-10, 05:27
Even if she probably did not deserve more than 1000 baht, you agreed to give her at least 1500 baht, so, you should have given this amount... unless, of course, if you have made it very clear beforehand that you expect certain services from your girl and a minimum of intercourses with her during the night. If you didn't specify anything clearly enough, then, it's understandable that she was not happy and I would not (totally) blame her, especially as she is apparently pretty new to the game, at least, in Pattaya... and it's better for you, because she probably doesn't know yet too much people there.
Be very careful, because many foreigners have been beaten up for lesser than that. If a working girl explains to her Thai male friends that you did not pay the agreed price (especially if she believes that it was unfair), they will certainly consider that it is a reason good enough to teach you a "Muay Thai lesson" of their own!
For your information, many services that are considered as the norm for the foreigners are not yet a common practice for the local P4P girls who have not spent much time in tourist-oriented places. For instance, a blowjob (covered or not) is often considered as an extra in the local brothels catering mostly to Thai punters and it is not always on the menu. Even if the situation is improving to this respect, probably more than 50% of the younger providers refuse to perform it or suck (pun intended) at it in the local brothels of Isan (Northeastern Thailand, the region of origin of most of the girls working in Pattaya and other tourist-oriented places in Thailand).
Of course, a girl who has already worked some time in Pattaya would know what services a foreigner usually expects, but I'm pretty sure that your provider did not have a clue when you made the deal, hence the misunderstanding and her disappointment.
It's just a friendly advice, but IMHO, things should be clarified beforehand. The more, the better. Any single thing that is not specified clearly enough may be the source of some trouble later. But you should give the benefit of the doubt to your provider, and if you haven't been specific enough, just pay the agreed amount. A 500 baht difference is not worth the trouble that you could have if the girl is angry and has a few local male friends...
I see your point and thanks for the warning and advice. Next time around myself and the lady will discuss services rendered and set price, but you have no idea how annoying she was and how fustrated I was.
Cobra operations were taking place last time I was in Pattaya. It doesn't really make a dent on the availability of women.In the old days when the US military came in, you'd come down to breakfast and find even your waitress gone. But these days the scene in Pattaya is so huge it could swallow the entire 7th Fleet and not even burp. I always tell people not even to worry about it.
Redfield10
10-03-10, 20:45
Exactly. I mean when I was there earlier this year (or maybe it was last October) the COBRA operations were going on. You'd see some well-behaved young gentleman walking around (always escorted) and actually, I don't think the stereotype that they all "participate" is accurate.
I think they walk around and gawk at the girls and I'm sure some partake, but I don't think it's like 95% of them are all screwing multiple girls in Pattaya. In fact, I'd say the percentage that participate is much smaller than most people think.
Anyway, there's so many thousands and thousands of girls in Pattaya that it doesn't even make a noticeable dent these days.
In the old days when the US military came in, you'd come down to breakfast and find even your waitress gone. But these days the scene in Pattaya is so huge it could swallow the entire 7th Fleet and not even burp. I always tell people not even to worry about it.
In the old days when the US military came in, you'd come down to breakfast and find even your waitress gone. But these days the scene in Pattaya is so huge it could swallow the entire 7th Fleet and not even burp. I always tell people not even to worry about it.
I've heard that the sailors are pretty well behaved these days, is this the case?
GregLondon
10-03-10, 21:10
in the old days when the us military came in, you'd come down to breakfast and find even your waitress gone. but these days the scene in pattaya is so huge it could swallow the entire 7th fleet and not even burp. i always tell people not even to worry about it.
i think its the aircraft carrier george washington (and presumably support vessels) that is in town, and you are right the impact is relatively marginal.
times are changing and power / influence and money is slipping from north america and europe to more recently developing nations. anyone who has not been to pattaya for a few years is in for a big shock, the ethnicity of its patrons is changing so fast.
the clientèle of the upmarket gogos is now dominated by chinese, the discos and dance areas by russians and beach road and walking street by large groups of indian and iranian guys mostly trying to negotiate 2-5 guy for 1 girl type deals. as far as i can see this has led to a significant deterioration in the average quality of beach rd girls who now apart from the **** girls look very used and tired.
Redfield10
10-03-10, 21:18
That's absolutely the case. They walk around with "adult" chaperones. And very clean cut types. Professional looking. I don't even think there's many that partake. It's more just a walking around and looking and having a beer. Oh, I'm sure some do, but it's not like the "old" days in any way, shape, or form.
I've heard that the sailors are pretty well behaved these days, is this the case?
Anyone know how long it will be in Pattaya the American fleet ?.
Thanks ...
I really don't like the "gentrification" of soi 6. Too many gogo type places springing up. There are plenty of those already. We need another 6 soi sixes.
This time I allowed myself to be waylaid by an aging midget. I couldn't believe she's working on her own account, and not a mamasan or something. She's actually not ugly, has good boobs and horny as hell. While grinding on my crotch she said something that I hadn't heard in a while. I was giving as good as I got and she suddenly exclaimed: "you make me feel so young!" That made me feel proud that I could return the favor at least on one occasion.
When she dismounted we discovered her period had started by the big bloodstain on the front of my shorts. Luckily I just happened to have a spare pair of trousers with me. She was very apologetic and washed my shorts for me. She hung them up to dry and I came back a few hours later to pick them up.
New Old Guy
10-04-10, 13:00
I guess if they are so well behaved, it's because they face stiff punishment if they are caught partaking ?
I guess if they are so well behaved, it's because they face stiff punishment if they are caught partaking ?They certainly face punishment if they cause any trouble, and there are usually plenty of MPs around to make sure they don't. Not sure if they're actually forbidden to partake, but they're heavily discouraged -- videos about the horrors of STDs, etc. -- and most don't seem to. Kind of sad really, sailors coming ashore in Pattaya and not even shagging.
I guess if they are so well behaved, it's because they face stiff punishment if they are caught partaking ?
January 24, 2006
Patronizing prostitutes just got more costly
New rule means those convicted face dishonorable discharge, jail
By Karen Jowers
Marine Corps Times staff writer
Service members now may pay dearly for hiring a prostitute.
Under a change in the Manual for Courts-Martial, troops who patronize prostitutes can receive a dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances and up to a year in jail.
“Before now, there was no explicit prohibition on patronizing a prostitute,” said Eugene Fidell, president of the National Institute of Military Justice. “It’s clear they’re getting serious about this. I think it’s a sign of changing values in our society, including military society. Once upon a time, this kind of thing was rampant, like heavy drinking and smoking.”
The punishment for hiring a prostitute is now the same as the punishment for being a prostitute.
The change took effect Nov. 13 but received renewed emphasis by the Pentagon after President Bush signed a law Jan. 10 containing various provisions designed to combat [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908), which is heavily tied to prostitution.
Defense officials had no statistics available on the number of courts-martial for patronizing prostitutes since the change went into effect.
But it applies in all cases, even if a service member visits a legal brothel, regardless of local domestic or foreign law, said Pentagon spokeswoman Air Force Lt. Col. Ellen Krenke.
A bit dated but still enforce. Glad they waited until after I got out.
Slim
...Service members now may pay dearly for hiring a prostitute. Under a change in the Manual for Courts-Martial, troops who patronize prostitutes can receive a dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances and up to a year in jail.
Stands to reason, doesn't it? ... after all, they are sacrificial slaves.
New Old Guy
10-04-10, 14:21
Very well said, Daddy07.
Make love not war :)
Very well said, Daddy07.
Make love not war :)
Sounds more like, make war, not love.
I kinda feel sorry for all those sailors, might as well just stay on the ship.
Triple Input
10-04-10, 16:59
Great info David 2. Thanks for the input. I will be arriving in 2 days and will give this this spa package a try. Sounds like a good relaxing time with a good ending. What did they want for the tip? Hopefully all is well and I don't have an issue like you did,
Thanks
The reason that it isn't on their website is that it's an outside vendor that they rent space to. It opened a year and a half ago when their tower #2 opened, and they were having a special promotion for guests at NP. I tried one of their deluxe spa packages. I think it was 3 hours for 2000 THB, and it included a milk bubble bath, a body scrub, and an oil massage. A VERY nice experience, and of course the usual upsell options were offered including HE. Of course I paid the special service to the girl in cash.
I had asked before I went there if I could charge it to my room, and of course they said yes, but when I went to check out a week or so later, the NP manager on duty insisted that I pay the spa bill separately, in cash. Well, I explained that they said it could be added to my hotel bill, and that I had already changed all my THB back to USDollars. He was a very unpleasant man, but he had no choice but to add it to my bill because that was the only way he was going to get paid.
BTW, I was a long time customer of the NP hotel, and I had spent over 80 nights there over 4 visits, but after that occasion I will never go back. There are SO many better hotels that actually know the meaning of "Customer Service"
LukeSkyWanker
10-04-10, 18:44
anyone wanting a good massage i can recommend the above which is on soi bukao. head up soi diana inn away from 2nd road, turn left on soi bukao and it is located on left after about 100 yards. oil massage is 200baht for the hour and very good, free chinese tea and water also. i don't believe they do extras but i think the girls will go with you for bar fine, this is the place to go when you want a real massage, if your feeling horny afterwards [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is just round the corner so you could go and have a blow.
may the force be with you.
JohnnieBravo
10-05-10, 03:17
Sorry for the off topic, but I was wondering if anyone knew of a tailor in Pattaya that will make sweaters. I looked all over last time I was there but came up empty handed. Anyone know of any?
Great info David 2. Thanks for the input. I will be arriving in 2 days and will give this this spa package a try. Sounds like a good relaxing time with a good ending. What did they want for the tip? Hopefully all is well and I don't have an issue like you did,
Thanks
The very attractive young attendant asked for 1,000 THB, and because it was a 3 hour service I would have tipped 100 for each hour and 500 for the HE anyway, so I gave her the requested tip without bargaining. I was pampered like a king all afternoon, and it was a VERY pleasant experience for less than 90 USD.
I live in Las Vegas, and 90 USD buys you a 20 minute massage from a 50 year old without teeth.
Hope you enjoy......I'll look forward to your report.
Stiffoak 571
10-05-10, 12:03
Im back in Pattaya this weekend and have a question:
What interactive bars/go gos are there?
Last trip I went to X Zone and I heard that Windmill is similar so will check that out - but are there any others where you can "play" in the bar?
Slackerslacker
10-05-10, 12:12
"Stands to reason, doesn't it? ... after all, they are sacrificial slaves."
Very well said, Daddy07.
Make love not war :)
Nice snide remark about courageous men and women.
If it is so well said, I suggest you say it to their faces and see what happens.
But you won't, PUSSY!!!
Mr Enternational
10-05-10, 12:39
The very attractive young attendant asked for 1,000 THB, and because it was a 3 hour service I would have tipped 100 for each hour and 500 for the HE anyway, so I gave her the requested tip without bargaining. I was pampered like a king all afternoon, and it was a VERY pleasant experience for less than 90 USD.
I live in Las Vegas, and 90 USD buys you a 20 minute massage from a 50 year old without teeth.IMHO many mongers make the mistake of comparing a local price structure with "what it costs back home." This leads them to passing out money as if it were water in many countries where it is not necessary. I prefer to look at everything in context of the Big Mac Index and the local purchasing power parity. (In each country you visit check out the price of a Big Mac or a pack of Marlboro (although govt. taxes are added to the cigs) and compare it to back home.)There is absolutely no reason to fork over approximately 30 USD/ hour where the average monthly wage is 24,000 baht or US$800.
"Stands to reason, doesn't it? ... after all, they are sacrificial slaves."
Nice snide remark about courageous men and women.
If it is so well said, I suggest you say it to their faces and see what happens.
But you won't, PUSSY!!!
Who said they aren't courageous?
The truth is that when they sign up for duty, they essentially become the property of the US military which can put them into harms way; order them to stay away from prostitues; or just about any thing else their masters desire. Can you handle the truth? Soldiers have always been considered as little more than slaves by governments... you know ... like 'cannon fodder.'
If it makes you feel any better, Mr. Jingo Patriot, the USA government considers the rest of us as a 'resource' as well, which IMHO is not much better than slave.
BTW -- I HAVE said it more than once to my military friends. They agreed.
Slackerslacker
10-05-10, 12:57
I don't believe for a second your "friends" agree they are slaves. Really, you have friends who "signed up" to be "cannon fodder"?
It has nothing to do with Jingoism or Patriotism, I am neither. But I have tremendous respect for those who would put their lives on the line to allow me to live my life in freedom. Calling them slaves is hugely disrespectful.
Fuck the government (USA or otherwise). I'm not talking about them, but it should be very obvious why the military doesn't allow its members to visit prostitutes while deployed in a foreign country.
Who said they aren't courageous?
The truth is that when they sign up for duty, they essentially become the property of the US military which can put them into harms way; order them to stay away from prostitues; or just about any thing else their masters desire. Can you handle the truth? Soldiers have always been considered as little more than slaves by governments... you know ... like 'cannon fodder.'
If it makes you feel any better, Mr. Jingo Patriot, the USA government considers the rest of us as a 'resource' as well, which IMHO is not much better than slave.
BTW -- I HAVE said it more than once to my military friends. They agreed.
Stands to reason, doesn't it? ... after all, they are sacrificial slaves.At law, they say let the punishment fit the crime.
In this case it should be at worst, a missdemeanor, and it is highly unreasonable and damaging to morale, and probably poor given the law of equity. Was Bush or his aides trying to encourage homosexuality?
Given that certain security clearances are revoked for those that have affairs (untrustworthy) the rule seems reasonable for partnered sailors.
But single sailors? Is the justification that they don't want to infect host countries with (du) uranium sperm (many birth defects to soldiers wives who played with DU) so now special forces get to freeze theirs. In case.
But if we apply those rule, do all congressmen on the hill automatically get discharged. And their clearances revoked. Or for hiring illegal nannies. And everyone else on the civil arms.
This enforcement smacks of double standards, probably enforced by butch lesbians and feminists too ugly to get a man.
I don't believe for a second your "friends" agree they are slaves. Really, you have friends who "signed up" to be "cannon fodder"?
It has nothing to do with Jingoism or Patriotism, I am neither. But I have tremendous respect for those who would put their lives on the line to allow me to live my life in freedom. Calling them slaves is hugely disrespectful.
Fuck the government (USA or otherwise). I'm not talking about them, but it should be very obvious why the military doesn't allow its members to visit prostitutes while deployed in a foreign country.
All the guys I went to high school with who served in Vietnam regretted their involvement in the military which they felt used them like cannon fodder in a war the government did not even intend to win. One of them lost an eye along with half his face -- for nothing. I can respect them all very much but that doesn't change the truth that soldiers sign up to be slaves.
You might not be talking about the government, but I am, and was when I made what you called a "snide" statement. My ire was directed toward the government -- not the courageous men and women whom I do respect.
And, no, it is not obvious to me why a brave soldier should get in trouble for seeking a little R & R in a foreign country. I think it's asking too much from them. I think they deserve to be treated like adult human beings while serving their nation.
El Frances
10-05-10, 13:37
IMHO many mongers make the mistake of comparing a local price structure with "what it costs back home." This leads them to passing out money as if it were water in many countries where it is not necessary. I prefer to look at everything in context of the Big Mac Index and the local purchasing power parity. (In each country you visit check out the price of a Big Mac or a pack of Marlboro (although govt. taxes are added to the cigs) and compare it to back home.)There is absolutely no reason to fork over approximately 30 USD/ hour where the average monthly wage is 24,000 baht or US$800.
It's even worse than that. 24 000 Bath is the GDP per capita not the wages. No many thais earn more than 10 000/month.
Starchild2012
10-05-10, 13:57
All the guys I went to high school with who served in Vietnam regretted their involvement in the military which they felt used them like cannon fodder in a war the government did not even intend to win. One of them lost an eye along with half his face -- for nothing. I can respect them all very much but that doesn't change the truth that soldiers sign up to be slaves.
You might not be talking about the government, but I am, and was when I made what you called a "snide" statement. My ire was directed toward the government -- not the courageous men and women whom I do respect.
And, no, it is not obvious to me why a brave soldier should get in trouble for seeking a little R & R in a foreign country. I think it's asking too much from them. I think they deserve to be treated like adult human beings while serving their nation.
You said it perfectly. I'm from India, didn't realize the same mind games and brainwashing they play on US soldiers also. The talk of brave men and women, fighting for their country is a brain washing tool to get young men from all over the world to fight against each other.
When i graduated from college, i had to opportunity to work for navy, but i refused, i did not had the brain for all the politics that goes around...but some how i did not feel killing another human being in the name of protecting national security was a good thing...i thought putting human life is higher than political boundaries.
I was 20 yrs old then not smart enough (one reason they recruit young) many friends who joined the military regret it even today....they are used when their blood is young..when they get old..they are thrown away.....they think i'm really lucky to go around the world when i wish and have fun....they believe with all boot camps, waking at 4 am, following strict orders have made them robots. They are unable to think for themselves after some time.
When ever i call my military friends the first thing they ask is ..How im enjoying my life..
All soldiers in every country are used as slaves. I never hear the presidents son and daughter from India, Pakistan, USA, UK, Iran, Korea, Russia fighting in the front line...its all about normal people like you and me who are butchered in the front line all in the name of national security, freedom which are just brain washing trigger words.
The reason i write this is i feel sorry for my friends as they are stuck...they made a wrong choice.....i don't blame them...its the whole social structure that is to blame...i hope if some one is reading this would warn there friends and may be their kids some day for not joining the military. If we all from every country not decide to fight against each other...these devious political leaders will have no one to create wars.
Asian Fetish
10-05-10, 14:06
Fuck me, 1000bht plus 30USD per hour for three hours plus tip for HE, I may as well not bother about booking my next holiday to Thailand next year cause the prices will be cheaper in my own country if people keep throwing it away like that.
One of the providers I met over there while on holiday was a really sexy looking 19 year old with a knock out body, was paying her 1000bht LT (I held on to her for a while, she would stay with me the whole of the next day and we'll go to her bar at 8:30pm where I'd buy her one drink to make the owner happy, pay her bf again and then we'd leave), plenty of BBBJ and rimming both ways which is enough to make anybody feel like a king.
I was a newbie and I'm still fresh, but for the whole time I was in patt's I didn't fall into temptation and over pay or tip these providers, price on services were negotiated and agreed upon prior.
Which reminds me I need to post another days adventure!
As for the military, would an establishment which advertisers massage come under the same category as brothel or parlor?
And, no, it is not obvious to me why a brave soldier should get in trouble for seeking a little R & R in a foreign country.Especially since it's a tradition as old and honored as the military itself. Just these poor guys' luck to live in a time and place of ridiculous political correctness.
However I'm happy to say that last time I asked the girls on Soi 6, they told me sure, some of the guys take girls. But then military regulations have never gotten in the way of anybody with any spirit.
Triplehans
10-05-10, 15:56
Especially since it's a tradition as old and honored as the military itself. Just these poor guys' luck to live in a time and place of ridiculous political correctness.
However I'm happy to say that last time I asked the girls on Soi 6, they told me sure, some of the guys take girls. But then military regulations have never gotten in the way of anybody with any spirit.Listen up guys. This is a sex forum, repeat sex forum.
Chew your beef elsewhere and get back on topic!
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Member #4698
10-05-10, 16:25
no, it is not obvious to me why a brave soldier should get in trouble for seeking a little R & R in a foreign country.
Young men go to war to fuck pussy and have some adventure. It all gets wrapped up in a cloak of patriotism. This is the way of the world since before the Greeks sacked Troy. But once the young soldiers experience the horrors of war they begin to change their minds...about war, not pussy.
You said it perfectly. I'm from India, didn't realize the same mind games and brainwashing they play on US soldiers also. The talk of brave men and women, fighting for their country is a brain washing tool to get young men from all over the world to fight against each other.
When i graduated from college, i had to opportunity to work for navy, but i refused, i did not had the brain for all the politics that goes around...but some how i did not feel killing another human being in the name of protecting national security was a good thing...i thought putting human life is higher than political boundaries.
I was 20 yrs old then not smart enough (one reason they recruit young) many friends who joined the military regret it even today....they are used when their blood is young..when they get old..they are thrown away.....they think i'm really lucky to go around the world when i wish and have fun....they believe with all boot camps, waking at 4 am, following strict orders have made them robots. They are unable to think for themselves after some time.
When ever i call my military friends the first thing they ask is ..How im enjoying my life..
All soldiers in every country are used as slaves. I never hear the presidents son and daughter from India, Pakistan, USA, UK, Iran, Korea, Russia fighting in the front line...its all about normal people like you and me who are butchered in the front line all in the name of national security, freedom which are just brain washing trigger words.
The reason i write this is i feel sorry for my friends as they are stuck...they made a wrong choice.....i don't blame them...its the whole social structure that is to blame...i hope if some one is reading this would warn there friends and may be their kids some day for not joining the military. If we all from every country not decide to fight against each other...these devious political leaders will have no one to create wars.
You forget most of the countries have all volunteer army. Nobody is forcing anybody to join the armed forces. Where there is strict draft even the daughters and sons of the president and high officials have to join. No exceptions .
Joining the armed forces has its advantages. Travelling the world, steady job and benefits and even retirement is taken care of. Downside is the risk associated with fighting.
All army whether you like it or not need to be brainwashed. How can a army fight together if each one thinks for himeself?
In spite of your comments there will always be a war in our life times. Every country will have armed forces with advanced weapons.
Mr Enternational
10-05-10, 16:58
As an ex US Navy officer I look at the military as only a job. And on every job there are certain rules that have to be followed. When you sign up you consent to follow those rules. There is truth in what everybody is saying. It just has to be put all together.
1. Guys sign up to get exotic pussy and adventure.
2. Regulations have never gotten in the way of anyone with spirit.
3. The talk of brave men and women, fighting for their country is a brain washing tool to get young men from all over the world to fight against each other.
4. The truth is that when they sign up for duty, they essentially become the property of the US military which can put them into harms way; order them to stay away from prostitues; or just about any thing else their masters desire.
Today's military is no different than the old feudal system where the lord allowed a man to use a parcel of land in exchange that he would go to war for the lord when the time came. Today you can sign up in a time of peace and receive a paycheck every month while preparing and always being ready for war in hopes that a war will not take place during your stint. What are the chances of that? But when the time comes you have to be ready to fulfill your part of the deal which is doing what you were hired to do, fight; not question the motives or reasons that you are going to war or question why you have to do what you are told. You merely have to execute the commands you are given from above.
In order for everyone to be on the same page rules are in place, such as wearing a uniform. The first thing you learn when you go to the military is there are no individuals, there is only the group. Your personal ideas have to be left in your home town and you do for the good of the group. Of course you are not supposed to get tattoos because your body is government property and you are not supposed to fuck working girls. But as Daddy said, those rules have never gotten in the way of anyone who wanted to do those things. The key with that as with anything in life is knowing how far a particular rule can be bent.
As far as the hooker issue maybe the Nav had enough of guys coming back to the ship after liberty with diseases or getting complaints to the Commanding Officer from various women. (I remember many times a guy had a disagreement with a woman or he would not do as she wanted then she would threaten to go to the Commanding Officer to get him into trouble.) These trivial things cost money and take away from resources. The fortunate thing is that the door swings both ways. When your contract is up you can always walk out the same door you walked in.
It's even worse than that. 24 000 Bath is the GDP per capita not the wages. No many thais earn more than 10 000/month.
You're right. The average monthly wage in Thailand, for the second quarter of year 2009, was lesser than 8600 baht (8521.7), according to the Bangkok Post Economic Review:
http://bangkokpost.com/productinfo/common/img/img_eco2/pdf/EC301209E08.pdf
And in rural Isan (the region from where most of the P4P girls available on the tourist-oriented market come), many people live on less than 4000 baht per month (in the agricultural sector, the average monthly wage was approximately 3600 baht only in 2009).
I served over a years in Viet Nam '68-69. It was tough duty, full of dangers and hard times. That was the down side of my tour, the good side was I got to experience the wonders of Asia and the beauty of Asian women. An old timer in my unit gave a taxi girl a dollar to take me to the green leaves motel and I've been hooked on Asian ladies ever since. Without the exposure given to me by the service I would never have known a whole 'nother world and way of living. I look at Viet Nam like the biggest adventure of my life and don't regret the experience at all!
Mr Enternational
10-05-10, 18:03
It's even worse than that. 24 000 Bath is the GDP per capita not the wages. No many thais earn more than 10 000/month.Exactly. I stand corrected. I remember doing a tour and going to a rice farm. They said that a rice farmer makes about US$ 1200/year. No way I'm giving a working girl the same amout for a couple of hours as it takes a hard working rice farmer a whole month to make.
New Old Guy
10-05-10, 19:54
In spite of your comments there will always be a war in our life times.Hopefully not, and count me among the ones that steadily refuse even the so called just war.
Every country will have armed forces with advanced weapons.For the main benefit of those selling the weapons to profit hugely from the misery of others.
IMHO many mongers make the mistake of comparing a local price structure with "what it costs back home." This leads them to passing out money as if it were water in many countries where it is not necessary. I prefer to look at everything in context of the Big Mac Index and the local purchasing power parity. (In each country you visit check out the price of a Big Mac or a pack of Marlboro (although govt. taxes are added to the cigs) and compare it to back home.)There is absolutely no reason to fork over approximately 30 USD/ hour where the average monthly wage is 24,000 baht or US$800.
If you'd take the time to read my report you would see that my tip was 30 USD for 3 hours of pampering.....not 30 USD/hour as you stated.
I was the first customer in their brand new spa, and the place was magnificent. No expense was spared in the construction, and they were trying to build a client base by going the extra mile with each new client.
The attendant first filled their brand new jacuzzi with coconut milk while I took a soothing sauna. When the bath was filled she scrubbed my entire body before helping me into that lucious concoction in the whirlpool. She joined me in one of the best baths I've ever had.
After the bath, she gave me a 30 minute oatmeal facial, followed by a 1 hour foot massage, and then an hour and a half oil massage to die for.
I happily gave her what amounted to a bit less than $30 for a once in a lifetime experience.
I'm not really interested in what your Bic Macs cost......but I hope you enjoy them along with your Marlboros.
You're right. The average monthly wage in Thailand, for the second quarter of year 2009, was lesser than 8600 baht (8521.7), according to the Bangkok Post Economic Review:
http://bangkokpost.com/productinfo/common/img/img_eco2/pdf/EC301209E08.pdf
And in rural Isan (the region from where most of the P4P girls available on the tourist-oriented market come), many people live on less than 4000 baht per month (in the agricultural sector, the average monthly wage was approximately 3600 baht only in 2009).
Thanks for the link. Pretty interesting but the bar girls are making cash and I bet a lot goes uncounted for.
When she dismounted we discovered her period had started by the big bloodstain on the front of my shorts. Luckily I just happened to have a spare pair of trousers with me. She was very apologetic and washed my shorts for me. She hung them up to dry and I came back a few hours later to pick them up.
Got to love Thailand - where else can you get your washing done as well as your rocks off!
Who would ever have guessed that there might actually be prostitution going on in Soi 6?
http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/10/07/police-conduct-prostitution-raid-at-mandarin-bar-in-soi-6-pattaya/
Thankfully all the other bars on that Soi are legitimate...
Mr Enternational
10-07-10, 16:15
Who would ever have guessed that there might actually be prostitution going on in Soi 6?
http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/10/07/police-conduct-prostitution-raid-at-mandarin-bar-in-soi-6-pattaya/
Thankfully all the other bars on that Soi are legitimate...
"Using a foreign volunteer, officers entrapped the popular A-Go-Go Bar into providing the undercover officer with a range of services valued by the establishment and involved girl at Bt2,000. "
Foreign volunteer? Surely this was someone who had run afoul of the cops and was trying to get themselves out of trouble.
Someone on Soi 6 willing to pay 2,000 baht for services should have made the establishment suspicious in the first place. Or did they just think they had another sucker on the line?
Gin And Tonic
10-07-10, 17:29
I often wondered when I was there for a couple of months last year whether any of the cute touts are available for takeout? There was a real cute light haired spinner in front of Airport on Walking Street. Never got around asking one if she was barfineable.
First Lover
10-07-10, 23:59
Do you know "Mia the nasty *****"
This sounds like something fun.
http://perfect-mia.escortsite.com/about-me.phtml
Foreign volunteer? Surely this was someone who had run afoul of the cops and was trying to get themselves out of trouble...
More likely, this particular bar owner either refused or forgot to pay the monthly bribe to stay in business. There must be at least a hundred bars on that Soi and every one of them is a cat house. If the cops really decided to crack down on prostitution in Pattaya, this place would be a ghost town.
The "foreign volunteer" is probably a toad.
More likely, this particular bar owner either refused or forgot to pay the monthly bribe to stay in business. There must be at least a hundred bars on that Soi and every one of them is a cat house. If the cops really decided to crack down on prostitution in Pattaya, this place would be a ghost town.
The intention has always been to reduce prostitution and hide it away more effectively, if not actually eliminate it. As disingenuous as this prosecution seems to be, I would not be at all suprised to see Soi 6 shut down in a few years, particularly if the Thaksin/Red side come back into power.
LittleBigMan
10-08-10, 09:01
The intention has always been to reduce prostitution and hide it away more effectively, if not actually eliminate it. As disingenuous as this prosecution seems to be, I would not be at all suprised to see Soi 6 shut down in a few years, particularly if the Thaksin/Red side come back into power.
As noted regarding Soi 6, this Soi from beginning to end is doing the same thing the Mandarin is doing! So why Mandarin? The rule of thumb or the law if that is what one wants to believe is the Soi closes at 1am! The Mandarin owners violated that code by trying to stay open beyond that period. Closing the lights out front and trying to skirt the code amount others on the Soi, got them busted.
Most of these bars are Farang owned fronted by Thai women, one call, a little money and a call from another jealous owner and you get raided. Personally Thaksin or the Red or yellow or whatever color that comes along there will always be a Soi 6! Before Thaksin was in charge there was a Soi 6, when he was in office Soi 6, got more popular and when he was out of office since 2006, Soi 6 still alive! Maybe not the same owners and they come and go but in the end its still another bar. Thaksin is so homesick for Thailand he would do anything or use anyone means to return. If he had to kiss the Kings Ass to return without serving Jail time he couldn't jump fast enough so allowing the P4P to continue to operate in Pattaya is small give back.
Thailand is all about smoke and mirror, every policeman wants to be assign to Soi 9, district. Biggest payout because of Soi 6, and Walking Street. There was a time Soi Buakhao was suppose to be the new WS. but today WS is still there. Nothing will change!
LBM
Asian Fetish
10-08-10, 09:37
Do you know "Mia the nasty *****"
This sounds like something fun.
http://perfect-mia.escortsite.com/about-me.phtmlSounds like fun, but somehow i don't think its going to be the girl in the pictures that will be tied up. Cause anybody who likes asian women(namely me) would know that those photos are of an American born thai porn star named Leanni Lei who started her career by doing max hardcore videos. I seriously doubt the GFC is that bad in the US that she's had to travel to Thailand to make money!
But check it out anyway if your in the area, you never know your luck and report back. I'd be kicking myself up the ass if it does turn out to be her.
Do you know "Mia the nasty *****"
This sounds like something fun.
http://perfect-mia.escortsite.com/about-me.phtml
This Leanni Lei the Asian porn star.
http://www.leannilei.org/tour.htm
An ad like this pops up ever so often.
Slim
I recently met a really fantastic WG in Pattaya. We met in public in Mikes Mall
and started chatting and something really clicked. She told me she was working at a language school (which she was) but she was also working at a high end MP in Pattaya. Since then we have spent a great deal of time together and I can tell you she surprises me. She has her own motorbikes, has a house uo in Issan, never let's me pay for anything and overall is a true joy. With my vast experience with WG I have never seen this before. She seems quite genuine and tells me about though she is a bit ashamed she is a P4P girl she has goals and desires and this is helping her to achieve that.
Has anyone seen this before witha Thai WG? I like this girl but believe me the more experienced among us knows you can never throw caution to the wind in this town.
Mr Enternational
10-09-10, 04:34
I recently met a really fantastic WG in Pattaya. We met in public in Mikes Mall
and started chatting and something really clicked. She told me she was working at a language school (which she was) but she was also working at a high end MP in Pattaya. Since then we have spent a great deal of time together and I can tell you she surprises me. She has her own motorbikes, has a house uo in Issan, never let's me pay for anything and overall is a true joy. With my vast experience with WG I have never seen this before. She seems quite genuine and tells me about though she is a bit ashamed she is a P4P girl she has goals and desires and this is helping her to achieve that.
Has anyone seen this before witha Thai WG? I like this girl but believe me the more experienced among us knows you can never throw caution to the wind in this town.Simpson's did it! Simpsons did it!
Yep I have seen it with Thai WGs before and many Brazilian WGs as well. Some just like to get a little extra money and some just like to fuck. Either way I don't see anything wrong with it.
I picked up one from Lucifer a couple of weeks ago. She didn't want any money. We got on her motorbike and I saw it only had 64km on the odometer. I said something about it and she said she had just bought it 4 days before. She wanted me to come visit her at her regular job sometimes. I don't think I'll take her up on it because she was a dud in the sack. LOL. She also said that she had a boyfriend from Spain. While we were together some guy from Turkey (stalker) kept calling her. She made me talk to him on the phone and tell him to stop calling. He didn't care. When I hung up the phone he called right back so she finally turned it off.
Also one of my wingmen used to have one who owned her own clothing shop. She used to spend money on him like it was water. You just never know with these chicks. I'm telling you.
Starchild2012
10-09-10, 09:23
I recently met a really fantastic WG in Pattaya. We met in public in Mikes Mall
and started chatting and something really clicked. She told me she was working at a language school (which she was) but she was also working at a high end MP in Pattaya. Since then we have spent a great deal of time together and I can tell you she surprises me. She has her own motorbikes, has a house uo in Issan, never let's me pay for anything and overall is a true joy. With my vast experience with WG I have never seen this before. She seems quite genuine and tells me about though she is a bit ashamed she is a P4P girl she has goals and desires and this is helping her to achieve that.
Has anyone seen this before witha Thai WG? I like this girl but believe me the more experienced among us knows you can never throw caution to the wind in this town.
She seems like a good girl...i say go for whatever u have in mind...these stories of bar girls scamming a guy and guy cheating bar girl...will go on long after we are dead and the world turns into stone age.
Let it not bother you man..sometimes we get too cautious and take our whole life in reverse ..trust your gut feelings in these matters not what others say...think about it whats the worst she can do for you...scam you of some dollars...whats best she can do...Change your life for ever...right..
take your pick and go for it...good luck
Who would ever have guessed that there might actually be prostitution going on in Soi 6?
http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/10/07/police-conduct-prostitution-raid-at-mandarin-bar-in-soi-6-pattaya/
Thankfully all the other bars on that Soi are legitimate...
THAT will CERTAINLY terach them NOT to flip the middle finger at the tumruat, EH?
Hi Jackson,
The Popper Pattaya Hotel Report was completed about a week ago. It is over 30 pages long. Tried to post it, but could not. Reason could be that there are e-mails of hotels; however, even after deleting the e-mails still could not post. Perhaps it the length, or the countless hotels links. Do not know.
Tried to PM, but thus far no response. Please let me know how to post this lengthy and informative report.
Thanks.
--Popper
GoodEnough
10-09-10, 15:03
I have no idea how you could post a report of that length. It sounds like a great resource and I for one, would love to have it. Maybe those of us who feel likewise could send you PMs, with email addresses, and you could email it to us, though that would be a burden to you. Thanks for taking the time to write it.
GE
Hi Jackson,
The Popper Pattaya Hotel Report was completed about a week ago. It is over 30 pages long. Tried to post it, but could not. Reason could be that I have e-mails of hotels; however, I deleted the e-mails but still could not post. Perhaps it the length, or the countless hotels links. Do not know.
Tried to PM, but thus far no response. Please let me know how to post this lengthy and informative report.
Thanks.
--Popper
ThaiLearner
10-09-10, 22:01
Hi Jackson,
The Popper Pattaya Hotel Report was completed about a week ago. It is over 30 pages long. Tried to post it, but could not. Reason could be that there are e-mails of hotels; however, even after deleting the e-mails still could not post. Perhaps it the length, or the countless hotels links. Do not know.
Tried to PM, but thus far no response. Please let me know how to post this lengthy and informative report.
Thanks.
--PopperTry splitting it into 30 posts
... The Popper Pattaya Hotel Report was completed about a week ago. It is over 30 pages long. Tried to post it, but could not. Reason could be that there are e-mails of hotels; however, even after deleting the e-mails still could not post. Perhaps it the length, or the countless hotels links. Do not know--Popper
Try saving the document in PDF format and attaching it as a file to your report. That's how I posted "Daddy's Thai Language Phrase List."
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=74672
Here is Evil Penevil’s September 2007 Pattaya Hotel Guide:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=642278&postcount=888
Would be interested to which is better.
Planning on coming for a week.
Hello, guys.
I'm in Vietnam now, almost figured out the local scene but in a day or two I'm on my way to Pattaya. I need a little bit of information, I know most of it is here but because English isn't my native tongue it will take me a l o and g time to search trough everything in here. I tried reading back and it took me a few good hours to only read half of the first page. So please help me just a little and I promise to report back with a lot of stories and info after I'll be done in Thailand. I have just a few questions:
1. What is the different between a bar, a open bar, a soapy and a-gogo? I saw that there are price differences. Why?
2. What is the customary bar fine? What is the average price for a ST and what is for LT? Is LT just until morning or more?
Slackerslacker
10-11-10, 09:31
Would be interested to which is better.
Planning on coming for a week.Pattaya is better but Bangkok is more gooder.
I hope this helps.
Well said...
Pattaya is better but Bangkok is more gooder. I hope this helps.
Would be interested to which is better.
Planning on coming for a week.It just depends on your personal taste. Some guys prefer Bangkok over Pattaya and vice versa.
Just spend some time in both places and find out for yourself.
Hello, guys.
I'm in Vietnam now, almost figured out the local scene but in a day or two I'm on my way to Pattaya. I need a little bit of information, I know most of it is here but because English isn't my native tongue it will take me a l o and g time to search trough everything in here. I tried reading back and it took me a few good hours to only read half of the first page. So please help me just a little and I promise to report back with a lot of stories and info after I'll be done in Thailand. I have just a few questions:
1. What is the different between a bar, a open bar, a soapy and a-gogo? I saw that there are price differences. Why?
2. What is the customary bar fine? What is the average price for a ST and what is for LT? Is LT just until morning or more?Google "Pattaya Bars" and you'll get a wealth of information. Too much information for anyone on here to give an indepth play-by-play. Each bar is different on prices. Open bars are open air bars, pleanty of them. Soapy is a go-go bar that has a couple girls playing in a tub of bubble bath. Go-go bar is just that, depends on the bar, may be some nudity, may not be as well. ST usually $20 - $30, LT $40 - $60, depending on how you treat the girls and whether they like your company.
Would be interested to which is better.
Planning on coming for a week.BKK has better quality, higher prices. PTY more centrally located as far as bar activity and easier to negotiate without having to take a cab everywhere.
Fast Eddie 48
10-11-10, 23:38
Would be interested to which is better.
Planning on coming for a week.Fullmonty,
Everyone is different it all depend what you like, I think you should spend 3 night in each city pattaya is much cheaper and much easier to find actions and Bangkok is a large city with more to do like shopping and toruist sight but more expensive.
Fast eddie 48
1. What is the different ..., a soapy .....?A soapy is a massage place where you can select a girl from a fishbowl of girls, you get a room, she gives you a bubble bath, a good rub etc. You then proceed to an inflatable matttress where she covers you in bubbles and she will proceed to slip and slide all over you. A true full body massage. You tidy up, then dry up and hop on the bed for a one shot good time. Takes about an hour and half and costs about 1800bht. Expensive for one shot but a different experience if you havent tried. Sabai Dee Body Massage is one of the better ones near Central Center.
http://www.pattayaphotoguide.com/?kR2RUX8skcqF
Franco Cozzo
10-12-10, 02:05
Pattaya is better but Bangkok is more gooder.
I hope this helps.Slackerslacker, I like the cut of your jib.
Hi Jackson,
The Popper Pattaya Hotel Report was completed about a week ago. It is over 30 pages long. Tried to post it, but could not. Reason could be that there are e-mails of hotels; however, even after deleting the e-mails still could not post. Perhaps it the length, or the countless hotels links. Do not know.
Tried to PM, but thus far no response. Please let me know how to post this lengthy and informative report.
Thanks.
PopperPopper1,
1. It was a complete coincidence that I saw your post. In the future, please do not rely on the open forum to direct my attention to individual member issues.
2. Your report was not posted because it exceeded the 50,000 character post limit. It had nothing to do with the report containing the email addresses of commercial businesses, which are in fact permitted and encouraged in the forum.
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Saw a report on a local non-mongering forum about a raid on beach road. Cops apparently arrested some of the girls and some of the boys who want to be girls. Many of the girls got away, according to the report.
Saw a report on a local non-mongering forum about a raid on beach road. Cops apparently arrested some of the girls and some of the boys who want to be girls. Many of the girls got away, according to the report.
http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/10/12/pattaya-beach-road-subject-to-prostitution-purge-by-police/
Those raids occur probably at least twice a year, but situation returns to normal pretty quickly (sometimes, just a few hours after the latest raid).
http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2010/10/12/pattaya-beach-road-subject-to-prostitution-purge-by-police/
Those raids occur probably at least twice a year, but situation returns to normal pretty quickly (sometimes, just a few hours after the latest raid).
I have read on other forums that there is a new "top cop" in town, he's probably trying to make an impression to his bosses and is busily trying to get the new tea money rates set.
Bill Miami
10-12-10, 14:16
Well gentlemen it has been a long time since my last post, so I thought I would provide a Pattaya update. I have lived here 7 years now and each and every year the city gets better and better. The new 30 story Hilton is set to open this month on top of a 7 story world class mall that opened last year.
If you have never been to “Walking Street” in Pattaya, you really have no idea what you are missing. It is without question my favorite 3 mile stretch of bars in the world.
I go down there 3 to 4 times a week and almost every week I find a new GO-GO bar that has opened or one I have never been to before. Why some foreigners comes to Thailand and thinks it is a good idea to spend a ton of money opening a GO-GO bar is a good investment, I have no idea, but I am glad they do.
And forget about the 1,000’s of beer bars on the street, I have never been to 99% of them. This is a great time to come to Pattaya; there are a ton of girls and not too many customers.
I am able to take a GO-GO girl now for 1,000 Baht short time and 1,500 Baht long time, plus the 600 Baht bar fine. I was never able to do that before, each price was 500 Baht more.
These are not the bars #1 girls, which never drop their price, since they get bar fined every night, but they are the bars #2 girls. You need to be nice to them and buy them a drink, talk to them a while and make them laugh. Also, the girl has to like you to go with you for that price, and I am sorry to say they are just like us and have different taste, so they all do not like you.
But, really who cares, since there are 10,000’s of them, you just move on to the next one. I want to make a special point of acknowledging the free-lancers on Walking Street. They are simply unreal and I have never seen so many stunners before here, they are everywhere.
If you are there between 10PM and midnight, 7’s to 9’s are walking by constantly, 1,000’s of them. I am talking about girls that look like movie stars or models. They are all heading to the discos. Over the past few years many of them have opened, which I don’t like going to. They are dark, crowded and the drinks are expensive.
Instead I just hang out on Walking Street for 5 minutes and find one I like and start talking to her. If I still like her then, I ask her if she wants a drink and I take her to a beer bar located right on the ocean. It is a nice place to sit, with a view of the ocean, the drinks are cheap and you can get to know the girl a little better.
I cannot stress this enough, regardless of where you take the girl from, always but always take one that you like and one that LIKES you. If you just take a girl that does NOT like you, more than likely you will have a bad experience.
The freelancers on Walking Street range in price from 500 Baht for an average looker to 1,000 Baht for a stunner and there is no bar fine involved. So these girls are without question the best deals in the city.
I am talking about getting a 8 or 9 stunner for 1,000 Baht, how can you beat that? You can’t is the answer. I look forward to seeing you here, it is a great time to come, the girls are everywhere and the customers are nowhere to be seen.
Well gentlemen it has been a long time since my last post, so I thought I would provide a Pattaya update.Thanks Bill.
I will be in Pattaya from October 23 and appreciate your update.
Well gentlemen it has been a long time since my last post, so I thought I would provide a Pattaya update. I have lived here 7 years now and each and every year the city gets better and better. The new 30 story Hilton is set to open this month on top of a 7 story world class mall that opened last year.
If you have never been to "Walking Street" in Pattaya, you really have no idea what you are missing. It is without question my favorite 3 mile stretch of bars in the world.Aloha and thank you for sharing your expierence. I am in a different situation.
I came here with my filipina girl. She loves girls and is always trying to find more girls to play. We have had some good success but a little more difficult as the girl needs to like both of us and we need to both like the girl.
Met a great girl on soi 6 bar.
But now walking street they are all asking for 1500 to 2500 baht for short time?
What is that all about. We just say no. We did have stunner and hot one for both of us we took for 2000.
As a friend told me better to tell them what you will pay and not ask?
But I don't like to negotiate.
Either way I am having a great time and we will try a walk on the beach later at night.
Found one bar with lots of lesbians that had fun with my girl.
We told them she was a lady boy and they pulled down her pants to check it out.
Hahahaha. It was real pussy and two of the girls gave her a lick.
What a great place.
It seems busy to me? And expensive. But then I am so spoiled by the Philippines and the american dollar keeps falling as well.
LukeSkyWanker
10-12-10, 19:15
Nice report Bill, how long have you worked for Pattaya tourist board?
I agree with the quality of freelancers knocking about, 2 weeks ago there where some good ones. Walking street is max 1/2 mile long, I know American gallons are smaller than the real ones (British) but I thought the mile was the same.
May the force be with you
Redfield10
10-12-10, 20:29
There's almost no one here it seems. Many gogos are easily 10 girls to a guy. Many beer bars are 20 girls and no guys. This is a great time to be here and I'm taking full advantage!
And the Coconut Bar (Beach Road) is packed with cuties. I think the people who post that the girl count is down or they can't find girls are mostly losers who could not find a girl if the odds were a million to one.
I can't imagine how it could be any easier than this.
Aloha and thank you for sharing your expierence. I am in a different situation.
I came here with my filipina girl. She loves girls and is always trying to find more girls to play. We have had some good success but a little more difficult as the girl needs to like both of us and we need to both like the girl.
Met a great girl on soi 6 bar.
But now walking street they are all asking for 1500 to 2500 baht for short time?
What is that all about. We just say no. We did have stunner and hot one for both of us we took for 2000.
As a friend told me better to tell them what you will pay and not ask?
But I don't like to negotiate.
Either way I am having a great time and we will try a walk on the beach later at night.
Found one bar with lots of lesbians that had fun with my girl.
We told them she was a lady boy and they pulled down her pants to check it out.
Hahahaha. It was real pussy and two of the girls gave her a lick.
What a great place.
It seems busy to me? And expensive. But then I am so spoiled by the Philippines and the american dollar keeps falling as well.
Can one of you lovely BM's please clear up a little confusion for me....
If I go to the top of Soi Diana and cross directly over Soi Buakow, will I be on Soi Leng Kee or Soi Chaiyapoon?
I have booked a guesthouse on Soi Leng Kee and was pretty sure on the location. However some recent posts have places Soi Chaiyapoon exactly where i thought i was staying!!
I've checked on a couple of maps, but they aren't very detailed and don't have either Soi clearly marked.
Help!
ThaiLearner
10-12-10, 22:19
Can one of you lovely BM's please clear up a little confusion for me....
If I go to the top of Soi Diana and cross directly over Soi Buakow, will I be on Soi Leng Kee or Soi Chaiyapoon?
I have booked a guesthouse on Soi Leng Kee and was pretty sure on the location. However some recent posts have places Soi Chaiyapoon exactly where i thought i was staying!!
I've checked on a couple of maps, but they aren't very detailed and don't have either Soi clearly marked.
Help!
Soi Lenkee
Bill Miami
10-13-10, 00:18
Aloha and thank you for sharing your expierence. I am in a different situation.
There is an easy solution to that problem. In fact there are many.
First, on Soi 6 there are a ton of Bi-Girls, you can just go from bar to bar.
Second, at the Soapies in 2nd by the Big C in the fish bowel there are also a ton of girls that would love going with both of you.
Third, your best bet of Walking Street is to hit the Go-Go bars that have Jacuzzi’s that put on live lessie shows. Sorry, I do not know all of their names, but there are many of them. These girls will start attacking your girlfriend.
If you just go to the Go-Go bars themselves at each one there are usually a few bi-girls or true lesbians that will go after each and every girl that walks in the door.
One other thing to keep in mind, Thai’s are kind of funny and can be prejudice. Some of them just might not like girls from the Philippians, but do not let it worry you, there will be many that do.
Remember these girls are just like all of us, they have their likes and dislikes. You can pretty much be sure 99% do not want to go with Indians, they hate them.
Some like Japanese guys, they pay the big money. Some like black guys, they have big other things. By the way one of the funniest things I ever heard was a Thai girl explaining what she liked and she said she liked “Chocolate Men.” I almost feel off the bar stool when I first heard that.
If you follow my above advice, you will have more girls than you know what to do with in one day. In fact you could have 5 great experiences a day if you wanted too.
For the rest of you that visit here, the type of girl you like is just not going to jump into bed with you the second you get here. You have to do a little work finding them and that is the fun part. Going from Go-Go bar until you find the one you want.
I am a tit man myself and for the most part Thai’s girls are not that well endowed in that area, so I have to spend a little time looking for the one I want that night. That time I spend looking is a blast, since I am messing around with girls at every bar.
Bill Miami
10-13-10, 00:29
Nice report Bill, how long have you worked for Pattaya tourist board?
I agree with the quality of freelancers knocking about, 2 weeks ago there where some good ones. Walking street is max 1/2 mile long, I know American gallons are smaller than the real ones (British) but I thought the mile was the same.
First, of course I do not work for the tourist board.
Second, I have to apologize, since I know there are many UK citizens that read this board and for them to understand anything, I really need to be very specific and state every detail.
Walking Street itself is at least 1 mile long that is not debatable. But, when you take into account the 6 or 7 Soi’s that stretch from 2nd road to Walking Street that all have 100’s of bars on them, and then the little roads that connect one Soi to another, this small area has way more than 3 miles of bars contained within it.
(Soi’s means roads or streets in Thai for UK nationals reading this; see I am getting better and explaining everything in great detail so you can understand perfectly.)
Bill Miami
10-13-10, 01:13
But now walking street they are all asking for 1500 to 2500 baht for short time?
First, the standard price for a Go-Go bar girl for short time is 1,500 Baht. But there is nothing standard about Pattaya, and the stunners will want more, so pay it if you like them.
The girls will often ask for 2,000 Baht for short time since they know you are going to negotiate with them. Thais love to negotiate for everything, and they think you are stupid if you don’t.
If they are asking for 2,500 for short time and will not drop their price, either they don’t like either you or your girl, or they think it will be too much work taking care of both of you.
Last night at a Go-Go I had a real stunner that I liked and she liked me. I bought her a drink and she was all over me and finally asked me to bar fine her. I asked her how much, she said “2,000 for short time or 3,000 for long time.”
I came back with “1,000 for short time or 1,500 for long time.” I then told her “It is up to you”, that is a famous saying in Thailand and you want to make sure you use it. It forces them to make a quick decision.
Then I told her, “Mi Bin Lie” which means “No Problem” in Thai, that I would just go out to Walking Street and get a girl for 1,000 Baht for short time and not have to pay the bar fin. About 3 seconds later she agreed to 1,000 for short time, since she knew I would not have any problem getting a girl on Walking Street for that amount.
For you guys coming here for the 1st time, learning how to negotiate with these girls is certainly going to be a little difficult at first. There is certainly an art to that comes with experience.
I will give you another example. On Soi 6 just as you enter the Soi from 2nd road there was a 9.5 with a set of DD’s which I just love. The first time I see her, I offer to buy her a drink. A little advice here, always offer to buy the girl a drink if you are interested in her. She gets a little money from it, but the reason I do it is so that I can talk to her and see how much fun she is and how horney she is.
I like her a lot and I ask her how much, she says 700 Baht, but the standard price on Soi 6 is 500 Baht and she won’t drop her price. I tell her why should I pay you 700 when there are another 1,000 girls I can only pay 500. She does not drop her price and I find somebody else.
A few days later when I am on Soi 6 she ask me if I will buy her a drink. I tell her do you go for 500, she says no again. I just wonder off and find somebody else I like. This same exact things happens 3 or 4 more times.
Finally on the 5th time, she ask me if I will buy her a drink. I ask her if she will go for 500 and this time she finally says yes. It just took a little while working on her.
Of course, if you are coming here for a few days or weeks, you cannot do that and if you find a girl you really like pay her what she is asking.
Slackerslacker
10-13-10, 02:09
Can one of you lovely BM's please clear up a little confusion for me....
If I go to the top of Soi Diana and cross directly over Soi Buakow, will I be on Soi Leng Kee or Soi Chaiyapoon?
Help!
To further clarify. As you reach Soi Buahkao, straight ahead is Soi LengKee as stated. But turn left on Buahkao and your next right is Chaiyapoon/Excite split road. Chaiya on the right fork and Excite on the left fork.
...Finally on the 5th time, she ask me if I will buy her a drink. I ask her if she will go for 500 and this time she finally says yes. It just took a little while working on her...Man, you were very persistent in your effort to save 200 baht!
Was the sex with this busty girl any good?
BTW, I took a stroll down Soi 6 yesterday. There was an amazing number of women there!
Bill Miami
10-13-10, 02:29
Man, you were very persistent in your effort to save 200 baht!
Was the sex with this busty girl any good?
BTW, I took a stroll down Soi 6 yesterday. There was an amazing number of women there!
It wasn’t the 200 Baht, you missed it. I did it because it was the principle of the thing and the fact that I had a 1,000 or more other options at 500 Baht.
By the way, she was fantastic and I have been with her 30 or more times now, which adds up to a savings of 6,000 Baht and growing by the week. But, then again, if she was not great, it would have only saved me 200 Baht.
Steve Austin1
10-13-10, 02:33
Hey Bill Miami
Thanks for the info. I have few questions to ask you since I'll be heading to Phuket and Pattaya in early November. YOu mentioned short term and long term with a girl at different rate. How long is short and long term? I'm looking forward to finding girls with DD cup size.
It wasn’t the 200 Baht, you missed it. I did it because it was the principle of the thing and the fact that I had a 1,000 or more other options at 500 Baht.
By the way, she was fantastic and I have been with her 30 or more times now, which adds up to a savings of 6,000 Baht and growing by the week. But, then again, if she was not great, it would have only saved me 200 Baht.Good to know you are a man of of thrift and principles. This is a trait often lacking in the mongering community!
And, don't worry, I didn't miss anything important in your post. Chok dee! ;)
FreebieFan
10-13-10, 04:23
Second, I have to apologize, since I know there are many UK citizens that read this board and for them to understand anything, I really need to be very specific and state every detail.
(Soi’s means roads or streets in Thai for UK nationals reading this; see I am getting better and explaining everything in great detail so you can understand perfectly.)Wow, on behalf of all Brits we thank you.
Maybe you should have just kept on walking.
First, the standard price for a Go-Go bar girl for short time is 1, 500 Baht. But there is nothing standard about Pattaya, and the stunners will want more, so pay it if you like them.
The girls will often ask for 2, 000 Baht for short time since they know you are going to negotiate with them. Thais love to negotiate for everything, and they think you are stupid if you don't.
If they are asking for 2, 500 for short time and will not drop their price, either they don't like either you or your girl, or they think it will be too much work taking care of both of you.I am glad you are getting the prices down some so if I just negotiate then I am not the only one. But it is difficult for me to negotiate and too much of it then I don't feel like being with the girl.
But I did pay 1500 for a girl from walking street and one hot one I paid 2000.
So I know I over paid but now I am just walking away from them
I will in the future just tell them what I pay and take it or leave it. So thanks for your guide in what you are paying.
Fun And Sun
10-13-10, 23:09
I am glad you are getting the prices down some so if I just negotiate then I am not the only one. But it is difficult for me to negotiate and too much of it then I don't feel like being with the girl.
But I did pay 1500 for a girl from walking street and one hot one I paid 2000.
So I know I over paid but now I am just walking away from them
I will in the future just tell them what I pay and take it or leave it. So thanks for your guide in what you are paying.
Just some musings on this topic...
You can't really blame them for trying to quote a higher rate and see if you go with it. Negotiating for P4P isn't like negotiating a price of a used car, I try to pre-empt a negotiation by not asking how much, but just asking her if she wants to go with me for LT (I always LT at night) and then say 1,500 Baht. Most of them will say ok for this, some say "tilac, 2,000 baht...". Sometimes I agree to 2,000, but not very often. If she says something ridiculous I smile and say "I am not japanese"...
Keep smiling and make it a fun process, getting angry and "playing hardball" isn't going to do you any good in her eyes since once the negotiating is over then it will be followed by you getting to know her very very well so no need to create a bunch of bad will and hard feelings.
If a girl likes you and wants to go with you then she will get the negotiating over with pretty quickly, if she sticks to a silly price then this means she isn't that interested in going with you. It's not necessarily personal, some of the girls specifically look for japanese customers and have done their hair in a way that japanese men like etc so they don't want to go with other farangs.
I think the more time you spend with a girl before you bar fine her, being nice to her, buying her a drink or two, fondling her a bit this makes for a better price. (Alcoholic ones, a girl that asks for one of the "lady drinks" gets ditched instantly.)
Generally prices are higher and girls are more likely to try their luck early in the evening since there is a good chance another farang will come around if you don't take her, and also since if you take her out she loses the money she makes on drinking with customers, from dancing, etc for that evening.
Obviously being sober and showered helps get a better price too...
I think it's reasonable if you pay a bit more if you expect her to do both you and your GF since that is more work for her than if it is just you that she goes with. However, when I have taken out two girls from the same go-go they have never come down from the standard rate when I have said it's less work for them since they are two... :)
GregLondon
10-14-10, 00:02
Hey Bill Miami
Thanks for the info. I have few questions to ask you since I'll be heading to Phuket and Pattaya in early November. YOu mentioned short term and long term with a girl at different rate. How long is short and long term? I'm looking forward to finding girls with DD cup size.
You need to try to clarify this with any girl you go with. The default assumption for ST is 1 hour but many girls will take the view that (1) this includes any time taken to get to your room, and (2) if as in all probability you come earlier than this she will disappear to the bathroom get dressed and say she's off now. This is especially true of the 500B beach rd girls. IN theory LT should be overnight but again you need to agree until what time. Some girls may have in mind leaving at 5-6 am in the morning, others can be happy to hang around until the early afternoon if they are having fun. Usually LT will include two fucks 1 at night and another in the morning.
There are plenty of instances of bait and switch ie promising long time, then taking a call at 2am and coming up with a BS reason why she needs to go early.
Franco Cozzo
10-14-10, 01:51
Well gentlemen it has been a long time since my last post, so I thought I would.Thank you Bill. Very informative and useful post.
I can't believe that before joining this forum Pattaya was not on my list of things to see in Thailand. I have now cancelled the Northern part of my trip just to spend more time in the South and in Pattaya (I have done Nth Thailand about 10 years ago anyway, so the new experiences that Pattaya has to offer will be much more... ah... cultural).
Franco Cozzo
10-14-10, 02:05
[QUOTE=GregLondon] The default assumption for ST is 1 hour... Usually LT will include two fucks 1 at night and another in the morning [QUOTE]Ahhh - OK, I had assumed that ST meant 1+ hours (basically until you had both stopped having fun - as long as it wasn't like 3+ hours), and that there wouldn't be such a hard limit (2 times all up) for LT.
This was just from reading some of the 'blow by blow' (pun intended) posts. As I still have not P4P'd in the region I will defer to your experience though. It kinda makes the LT price slightly less of a bargain for mongerers I guess (and the relatively small $/ THB difference make more sense though).
[QUOTE=GregLondon] The default assumption for ST is 1 hour... Usually LT will include two fucks 1 at night and another in the morning [QUOTE]Ahhh - OK, I had assumed that ST meant 1+ hours (basically until you had both stopped having fun - as long as it wasn't like 3+ hours), and that there wouldn't be such a hard limit (2 times all up) for LT.
This was just from reading some of the 'blow by blow' (pun intended) posts. As I still have not P4P'd in the region I will defer to your experience though. It kinda makes the LT price slightly less of a bargain for mongerers I guess (and the relatively small $/ THB difference make more sense though).A lot depends on the girl. I have paid girls for short time and they have stayed for a week and not even ask for money. I give them money of course.
And I have girls come long time and leave in a few hours with some excuse.
Also some of the short time girls just want to get it done and out.
I don't worry. I let them go. I don't pay for sex. I only pay for the time and its really up to them how long they stay.
But of course it try to keep them longer and have good sex but always their choice.
Went out with my filipina girl. After three rounds with her in the room.
She was hitting on a virgin girl and tried to get her to come home with us. But the girl was too shy.
We went to cavern. It had some real sexy girls and nice.
The dancing is good in there with naked and half naked.
Went to the peppermint and its close to cavern and that had a lot of friendly and hot girls
Went upstairs sharks on soi 15. Not fun.
Across from angel witch a nice bar with friendly girls.
But is it me. All the girls keep looking fatter.
Maybe I am spoiled with a 38 kilo filipina that works out.
Had great time but not really excited by any of the girls?
Bought some drinks.
Is it crowded on walking street. Seems like a lot of people to me.
Okay go to Bangkok tomorrow.
Got a good deal on the dusit.
Bill Miami
10-14-10, 23:04
Hey Bill Miami
Thanks for the info. I have few questions to ask you since I'll be heading to Phuket and Pattaya in early November. YOu mentioned short term and long term with a girl at different rate. How long is short and long term? I'm looking forward to finding girls with DD cup size.
The definition of “Short Time” means until you are finished, if you know what I mean. The time duration could be anywhere from ½ hour to 3 hours.
There are 3 standard locations for this experience, the first a short time room, which could be a room above the bar itself or a close by local hotel room. The girls actually prefer this, because it takes them less time to get paid.
There other two locations which could be either your hotel room or in my case my condo. The typical experience involves traveling to your selected location with you paying. Then each of you take a shower and then the deed is done.
Depending on how long you take to finish really determines how long this last. In my case, since I am usually pretty drunk, it takes quite a long time and the girls really have to work for their money.
The definition of “Long Time” is from whatever time you take her until the morning, which means whenever she wakes up. This could be between anywhere from 6Am till 10AM.
However, if you take her in the afternoon, you really need to be specific about the time frame.
During this time you can do it as many times as you want. You can do until you cannot walk anymore if you want. Or until her sensitive parts can no longer take any more action, if you know what I mean.
If you want to do it more than two or three times you will have to do most of the work. Whereas with short time the girl usually does most of the work.
I hope that helps a little.
GregLondon
10-15-10, 09:35
[QUOTE=GregLondon] The default assumption for ST is 1 hour... Usually LT will include two fucks 1 at night and another in the morning [QUOTE]Ahhh - OK, I had assumed that ST meant 1+ hours (basically until you had both stopped having fun - as long as it wasn't like 3+ hours), and that there wouldn't be such a hard limit (2 times all up) for LT.
This was just from reading some of the 'blow by blow' (pun intended) posts. As I still have not P4P'd in the region I will defer to your experience though. It kinda makes the LT price slightly less of a bargain for mongerers I guess (and the relatively small $/ THB difference make more sense though).
As others have said alot depends on the girl and the situation. Generally speaking the girls on Beach Rd are aiming to have 3-4 customers a day at 500-700B a go. Most of them will be looking to try to get you to come pretty quickly so that they can spend no more than 30-45 mins with you. Many will dash to the bathroom as soon as you have come to get dressed and make sure you dont think you will be getting a second round. Hopefully if you pay a premium or find a good one you will get better more relaxed service. Certainly if you have bar fined a girl and paid 1000-1500B for short time you should not accept this type of hurried service.
When reading these forums keep in mind that guys being guys tend to remember, and retell and often embellish their best experiences and quietly forget the less interesting ones LOL.
Franco Cozzo
10-15-10, 11:45
When reading these forums keep in mind that guys being guys tend to remember, and retell and often embellish their best experiences and quietly forget the less interesting ones LOL.Haha - Greg, I know what you mean - one tends to either put on rose tinted glasses or focus only on the negatives for reviews depending on the outcome of the whole experience.
I have to admit on my limited 'blow-by-blow' posts for Melbourne (where I live), I often leave out details that are perhaps pertinent because of my overall feeling from the experience, and because I tend to waffle and start writing a novella on the experience otherwise.
I still can't quite wrap my head around the THB 500 ST. That is as cheap as a packet of cigarettes in Aus. Oh Thailand, I can't wait.
I still can't quite wrap my head around the THB 500 ST. That is as cheap as a packet of cigarettes in Aus. Oh Thailand, I can't wait.By the way - how much is for one box of cigarretes in LOS, like Marlboro etc. Im asking as I am a smoker (I know, thats bad for me and "mr. hardy")
Mr Enternational
10-15-10, 22:51
I still can't quite wrap my head around the THB 500 ST. That is as cheap as a packet of cigarettes in Aus. Oh Thailand, I can't wait.Well I thought paying 500 was a good deal too until a wise monger on the board said that I could actually get it for 300. Ever since then I have had no problems with them accepting 300 instead of 500. I mean I still won't mind paying 500, but I will always counter with 300 to see where that gets me. So far all takers.
Pointy Stick
10-16-10, 01:30
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo][QUOTE=GregLondon] The default assumption for ST is 1 hour... Usually LT will include two fucks 1 at night and another in the morning
As others have said alot depends on the girl and the situation. Generally speaking the girls on Beach Rd are aiming to have 3-4 customers a day at 500-700B a go. Most of them will be looking to try to get you to come pretty quickly so that they can spend no more than 30-45 mins with you. Many will dash to the bathroom as soon as you have come to get dressed and make sure you dont think you will be getting a second round. Hopefully if you pay a premium or find a good one you will get better more relaxed service. Certainly if you have bar fined a girl and paid 1000-1500B for short time you should not accept this type of hurried service.
When reading these forums keep in mind that guys being guys tend to remember, and retell and often embellish their best experiences and quietly forget the less interesting ones LOL.
Could you shed any light on duration fro ST on soi 6. If you were to take two girls upstairs would this lengthen the session or entitle one to the customary right of multi-shots?
Franco Cozzo
10-16-10, 03:36
Well I thought paying 500 was a good deal too until a wise monger on the board said that I could actually get it for 300. Ever since then I have had no problems with them accepting 300 instead of 500. I mean I still won't mind paying 500, but I will always counter with 300 to see where that gets me. So far all takers.Wow Mr International, you have amazing negotiating skills.
I would like to know your style - is it just walk up to Cutey ask "short time" and not discuss money until you are paying? Or do you discuss money and make a lowball offer with the view to settle at 300 - 500 baht?
Thanks
Doppel One
10-16-10, 03:58
[QUOTE=GregLondon][QUOTE=Franco Cozzo]
Could you shed any light on duration fro ST on soi 6. If you were to take two girls upstairs would this lengthen the session or entitle one to the customary right of multi-shots?
In my experience the 1 hour time limit for ST on Soi 6 is somewhat elastic. I've been with girls in the ST rooms for 1 hr 45 mins, with no hassle, mainly because we were both having a great time. It really does depend on the girl's mood (in particular) and yours.
I think the general rule that applies to taking one girl also applies to two girls. You certainly won't get 2 x 1 hour because you've taken two girls.
You will get the regular 1 hour + a bit of extra leniency if all goes well.
Also, bear in mind that if you take two girls to the ST room above the bar you have to pay the 300 baht ST room rate twice even though you're only renting 1 ST room.
I have tried on countless occassions to explian that it should only be 300 baht for the room because I'm only actually taking one room, but of course the bar sees it from their perspective and they want their cut (x2) for providing a shop window for the girl (s) to sell their wares.
BTW does anyone know of a bar on Soi 6 that let's you take 2 girls upstairs for the price of 1 room?
The freelancers on Walking Street range in price from 500 Baht for an average looker to 1,000 Baht for a stunner and there is no bar fine involved. So these girls are without question the best deals in the city.how do you know if she is a freelancer or not? is there signs or do you just ask?
Slackerslacker
10-16-10, 10:28
how do you know if she is a freelancer or not? is there signs or do you just ask?
The girls walking around are freelancers by definition because they are not attached to a bar.
However, if you are asking how do you know a Woman on Walking Street is a Wh*re? Then, no, there are no "signs" but there are plenty of signs.
Based on your question, you must not have visited Pattaya yet.. Better pack those bags my son!
LittleBigMan
10-16-10, 11:35
how do you know if she is a freelancer or not? is there signs or do you just ask?
There are signs and no need to ask?
Signs, for example anything that is tall that has large feet and hands and when you look at them and they have a large and very happy to see you look "that is the biggest sign of all"! But only the smile is free?
LBM
Pointy Stick
10-16-10, 11:53
Well I thought paying 500 was a good deal too until a wise monger on the board said that I could actually get it for 300. Ever since then I have had no problems with them accepting 300 instead of 500. I mean I still won't mind paying 500, but I will always counter with 300 to see where that gets me. So far all takers.
I always thought that the floor was 500 when I saw a punter in a car stop on beach road and flash three fingers to a not so attractive beach road girl which she subsequently rejected. It was low season too.
Does the time of day matter?
the definition of “long time” is from whatever time you take her until the morning, which means whenever she wakes up. this could be between anywhere from 6am till 10am.
however, if you take her in the afternoon, you really need to be specific about the time frame.
during this time you can do it as many times as you want. you can do until you cannot walk anymore if you want. or until her sensitive parts can no longer take any more action, if you know what i mean.
if you want to do it more than two or three times you will have to do most of the work. whereas with short time the girl usually does most of the work.
i hope that helps a little.
i would like to add few things. very few working girls will let you do it more than 2 times. less number of times they do it less damage for their body. remember they are not horny, they get all the sex they want. very few may take a liking to you and screw your brains out many times.
in general asian girls will do it whenever you want it if they percieve to be your girlfriend. like my thai gf put it as " because you touch me" when i asked her about why she likes sex frequently.
just because you took a girl lt does not mean she is going to stay awake all night having sex with you. many will come out with excuses like tired, pussy hurt, suddenly feeling sick, stomach ache from some food etc. even after one time sex they may come up with her friend needs the house key, baby sick, mother sick etc to go home in spite of previously agreeing to stay with you the whole night.
even if they sleep with you there is no guarantee that they will you sex in the morning.
whatever you do never force any girl to have sex against her wishes. you will land up in big trouble like [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) even though the whole world knows they are prostitutes. the fact that you are paying barfine etc is for her companionship. sex with her is a foregone conclusion but there is nothing you can do to demand it.
to protect yourself ,
1. see if the chemistry is there between both of you before you pick her.
2. try short time first . you can always extend it to lt bt negotiation.
3. never give money upfront although some girls insist on it.
4. if a girl starts trouble in the room call hotel security to kick her out.
5. never show your weakness to the girl. these girls are trained to exploit
weakness.
6. last but not least be firm and in control.
Ny Desiman
10-16-10, 21:18
I have been to Pattaya several times. Every time, I learn something new. Instead of saying specificaly what happened on my trips, I would try to describe the scene. Those who have visited there before or who are frequent travelers may find this report too simplistic, but for someone new who have never been there but thinking about it, this report may help. This is my way of giving back to this Forum, where I have found many hellfull information.
First, before you travel, obviously, you planned where you will stay once you are there. Please read the Pattaya Hotel Forum to get ideas about which hotel is 'Guest Friendly', that is, which hotel will allow you to bring in a Guest (a girl) from outside after you have checked in the Hotel. As a general rule, you should book for 2 persons when making your booking. After all, the price is the same for 1 or 2 persons. If a name is required, be creative and just write down, 'A Guest' as first and last name in the boxes for the 2nd person! I would suggest, book a hotel for 2 days between Soi 6 and Soi 13, between Beach Road and 2nd Road. You can check the location map of the Hotel when booking to verify this. (Soi = Street or Road in Thai). Then you can change hotel once you are their when you find a hotel that better suits you.
Whether you are coming directly from the Airport or from Bangkok. Taxi will be the quickest ride and may cost you in the range of 1,000 Baht - 1300 Baht. For a cheaper option, you may take the Bus. Google 'Bell Travel Pattaya'.
After you have arrived in Pattaya and checked in to your hotel, take a mental map of your location comparative to roads around you. Ask the reception, which way is the beach road, which way is the 2nd road, which way the Soi goes higher/ lower etc.
Take a stroll down the roads and you will notice many bars where many Thai Girls are sitting. Depending on the time of the day, the number of girls and the clients (man) will vary. Famiarize with yourself with many restaurants and Malls that are near your location. You will find many stores in the Malls and restaurants provide world class items/ foods.
Now, the best time to go out and look for a companion (after all, that is what you are in Pattaya for), is in late afternoon/ evening. Depending on your comfort level and your desire, you may walk into one of the many Bars, where you can buy a Drink and sit down and see the girls available and may offer to buy a drink to one of them. If you feel a connection, you can ask the girl if she is willing to go with you. Now, please understand, the girl is there just for that purpose (unless you are in a Bar like a go-go bar where the Girl is a Dancer and may not go out with you at all or not before her shift ends). At this point, the payment for the time period she will spend with you will come up. Usually, this time period can basically be divided into two terms. They are: Short Time or ST and Long Term or LT. Depending on the location where you are picking up the girl, price will vary. As a general rule it is 500 Baht to 1,500 Baht for ST and 1,000 Baht to 2,500 for LT.
Another place that you can find a girl is on the Beach Road. As you take a stroll on the Beach Road (on the Beach Side), you will see many girls sitting or standing on the Road. They are there to go with you. If you observe, you will notice that a man (just like yourself) is talking to a girl and after a few minutes ( that is if the negotiation of price is successfull), they will walk away together hand in hand.
At the end of Beach Road, there is a road called 'Walking Street'. This road is famous for many Bars, Go-Go Bars, Shows etc. Like Bars on the Sois and Beach Road, you will find girls here too. Pattaya is a place where you will find Girl to meet needs and desires of all tastes.
When you meet a Girl in a Bar, most likely you have to pay a Fee (called a BarFine to the owner of that Bar), this is in addition to the cost for the Girl. You do not pay a fee to a girl you meet on Beach Road, as they are Free Lancers. While you may find the Beach Road girl costs less, remember that when you take her to your hotel and something bad happens, there is no place where you can trace her back.
When you negotiate a girl to go out with you, the 'Act of Sex' is understood to be included. Just remember, while you are paying for it, the act itself still will depend on the chemistry and connection that you two feel towards each other. If you don't care, then that's fine too!
When you have picked up a girl after the price negotiation, for either ST or LT, then you can take her to your hotel, take a shower and have sex and she may leave (for ST) or take your time with her and do other things (for LT). Don't expect her take a shower with you, and don't expect her to have sex with out a condom (which you shouldn't do either anyway). It is better to talk about what you want when you are negotiating.
One word of caution: You may come across someone who is a ladyboy, a man who looks like a girl and you may not be able to differentiate. Use common sense and question if you have doubts.
I have not visited all parts of the world and don't know how girls behave when it comes to giving companionship to man even when I am paying for it. The thing about Pattaya is: Thai girls are beautifull, the city is beautifull, the foods are tasty and importantly the price is reasonably low.
If your goal is to have fun with a girl and as much as you want, all you need is just to be here and it doesn't matter how you look or what other social skills you may lack. Having said that, remember that while you can have all fun you want, at the end of the day a Thai Girl is doing it for social/ economic reasons. Treat her nice and you will be treated nicely. Just because you are paying her, doesn't mean you have to be rude, inconsiderate or don't have to practice good hygienic behavior.
If you have not been there yet, but want too, THINK TWICE. Life will not be the same, after you visit Pattaya.
Bill Miami
10-16-10, 23:22
Hello Ny Desiman,
That was a great report. After you have been here so long you forget about all the little details needed by newcomers, which you have added. I would only change two things about your report, which are mentioned below, hopefully you will not mind and I apologize if you do.
1) Unless you are staying at a high end hotel like the Marriott, Hilton or Hard Rock you really do not need to be concerned about booking a room for two people. All the hotels are so used to it now, if they did try to charge you this additional fee, they would not have any customers at all.
However, that was not always the case and years ago many hotels did attempted to do this.
2) If I was coming here for any longer than a week, I would only book a hotel over the internet for 2 days at the most. Once you get here you will not believe the number of hotels and the wide variety of them.
You can get a hotel room for as little as $10 up to $200. The hotel you book on the internet you might not like the room or location. In addition, without question, whatever you pay over the internet or through a travel agent will be at least 50% less when you walk in off the street.
In the afternoon, after you wake up just walk around the place a little exploring and you should be able to get an upgrade and a price reduction all at the same time.
It is very slow here now; not only Pattaya, but all of Thailand, so there are great hotel deals everywhere. If you are coming for 2 weeks or more you would actually be better off renting a condo for a month. You will get a higher quality room and the rate will be lower.
Ny Desiman, once again, fantastic report and I hope you do not mind my two minor adjustments to it.
Ny Desiman
10-16-10, 23:43
Hello Ny Desiman,
..... fantastic report and I hope you do not mind my two minor adjustments to it.
Not at all, Bill Miami. I am glad you liked it. You are right, in that, if you are visiting Pattaya for 1st time and intent to stay for a week or more, just book a medium priced hotel (USD 30 TO USD 50) for 2 days and then explore the location. You can always rebook your hotel or move to a new hotel just by walking 2 minutes. This may be difficult only between the months of December to February.
One other thing I forgot to add in my report: Both Beach Road and 2nd Road are one way streets. It is very easy to travel up and down these two roads as most of your activities will be confined between these two roads. There are Mini Buses/ Mini Trucks, whatever you want to call them, that has two rows of seat facing each other, that are traveling all the time on these roads. Price is 10 baht for any destination you want to travel on these roads only, just raise your hand if you want to get up and push the buzzer inside the car if you want to get down. Just a note, do not get into one that is parked on the road and is not picking up/ dropping off passengers.
Franco Cozzo
10-17-10, 05:05
Thank you NY Desiman,
Your report is very informative. Do any forum regulars know if there any way of requesting this is made into a report of distinction?
I think it will answer many of the questions that are frequently asked on this thread.
Thanks
Thank you NY Desiman,
Do any forum regulars know if there any way of requesting this is made into a report of distinction?
It's already there.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2009
Popper Valuations: Hotels in Pattaya has just been posted
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3145
All feedback, suggestions, and corrections are appreciated. Thanks for reading.
I wanted to thank Jackson for this OUTSTANDING forum. It has both saved and cost me lots of time. Without this forum, I would be completely at a loss.
Just as an example, I will probably be headed to Jakarta this Xmas break. I will now copy / paste the entire Jakarta forum, read it, and take notes on it. Since I first began lurking on this forum, perhaps as far back as 1998, have read probably ten thousand ISG pages and taken hundreds of pages notes from it (eg: Cebu, Manila, Jakarta, Suribuya, Bali, Bangkok, Phuket, Samui, Laos, Cuba, and other many places). Have learned very valuable info from it. This is the reason why I made this Pattaya Hotel Guide. It is my way of giving back to this forum.
Thanks to all who contributed.
--Popper
The world would be a better place if there were less churches and more wh0re houses.
Franco Cozzo
10-17-10, 11:37
It's already there.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2009Thanks, I think Jackson maybe put it up because of my request - both posts were published at the same time... or it could have been a coincidence. Either way - another valuable resource is now at hand to point people to easily.
Cheers
Levitraboner
10-18-10, 02:54
Does anyone know of a reliable place where one can pick up eastern europeans other than those places where they are dancing in the windows? I'm seeking something like CM2at Novotel is in Bangkok but in Pattaya.
Thanks
For those of you that don't read Stickman's weekly column, he is reporting that the BIB are hanging out at the Ekkamai bus station and searching farang, especially those getting off the bus from Pattaya. One Stickman reader reports that they are also checking out peoples memory cards from their cameras, etc, probably looking for naughty pictures.
Edit: Stick also mentions that the bus does stop at Onnut before reaching Ekkamai so it might be advisable to get off there.
Be careful out there!
Thanks Stick!
For those of you that don't read Stickman's weekly column, he is reporting that the BIB are hanging out at the Ekkamai bus station and searching farang, especially those getting off the bus from Pattaya. One Stickman reader reports that they are also checking out peoples memory cards from their cameras, etc, probably looking for naughty pictures.
Edit: Stick also mentions that the bus does stop at Onnut before reaching Ekkamai so it might be advisable to get off there.
Be careful out there!
Thanks Stick!
Am a big Stick fan. What kind of "naughty pictures" are they looking for? I posted many pictures from my Sony-Erricsson phone on this forum. All were clearly of legal age, and they just had no clothes on. Could this get me in trouble?
Recall from Sticky long ago, cops were looking for farangs who got off the Ekkamai bus station, looking for medical drugs obtained without a prescription. Things as antibiotics, etc. That to me really scary. As I understand it, this a result from the US Pharmaceutical companies pressuring congress to pressure the Thai Gov't to crack down on even legal drugs which Americans buy in Thailand for a fraction of US prices.
Sickening ...
--Popper
am a big stick fan. what kind of "naughty pictures" are they looking for? i posted many pictures from my sony-erricsson phone on this forum. all were clearly of legal age, and they just had no clothes on. could this get me in trouble?
--popper
honestly, i don't know what will get you into trouble or not, but with the reputation of the bib, i would err on the side of caution. it's my feeling that any naked picture that they find is going to cost you some baht. i'm sure that the ladies you were with were not ****, but can you prove it? remember, the bib want your $$ and i am sure they would happily accuse you of a myriad of offenses if they found some pictures of naked thai women. better to be safe than sorry, get off the bus at onnut.
Am a big Stick fan. What kind of "naughty pictures" are they looking for? I posted many pictures from my Sony-Erricsson phone on this forum. All were clearly of legal age, and they just had no clothes on. Could this get me in trouble?
Recall from Sticky long ago, cops were looking for farangs who got off the Ekkamai bus station, looking for medical drugs obtained without a prescription. Things as antibiotics, etc. That to me really scary. As I understand it, this a result from the US Pharmaceutical companies pressuring congress to pressure the Thai Gov't to crack down on even legal drugs which Americans buy in Thailand for a fraction of US prices.
Sickening ...
--PopperIt is true you can buy many antibiotics perfectly legally in Thailand with a perscription, but that is true in many other places. It is only in certain Western countries that governments and medical groups keep prices artificially high by insisting you need a prescription and stopping competition on even generic drugs. Which in the case of some drugs of obviously a good thing. If you do but antibiotics, get them from a respectable pharmacy. You often get asked whether you want the branded drugs or generics (which are much cheaper) for drugs which are out of patent. I have been known to take a course of Doxycycline home just in case something starts to itch.
BTW. Whilst you can buy genuine Viagra in Thailand without a perscription strictly you should have one (in Singapore as well) and most decent chemists require one. You can however buy it from some respectable places, typically for 2200 Baht for 4 100mg tabs (in a Pfizer box with the hologram thingy). Cut the things in half though. It is a heart drug after all so be careful.
J.
You can however buy it from some respectable places, typically for 2200 Baht for 4 100mg tabs (in a Pfizer box with the hologram thingy). Almost $20USD per tablet? Ok - we all can use an assist once and a while, but that seems like an awefully high price. Gimme 4 SW's from Beach Road ST for the same price and I would hope that variety does prove to be the spice of life.
SunLover
It is true you can buy many antibiotics perfectly legally in Thailand with a prescription, but that is true in many other places. It is only in certain Western countries that governments and medical groups keep prices artificially high by insisting you need a prescription and stopping competition on even generic drugs. Which in the case of some drugs of obviously a good thing. If you do but antibiotics, get them from a respectable pharmacy. You often get asked whether you want the branded drugs or generics (which are much cheaper) for drugs which are out of patent. I have been known to take a course of Doxycycline home just in case something starts to itch.
This off topic perhaps, but just my two baht worth on medical. Am a huge medical tourist . Whenever I head to Thailand (or RP / Indo), twice or three times a year I always get my teeth cleaned for about 800 baht. Often swap a filling for about the same price. As I posted before, one of my bar gals had a molar which was black. I paid a dentist for her molar pulled, x-rays, and medicine (800/b to pull, 200/b for X-ray, and 200/b for medicine for total 1200 baht). Cost in the States ... completely nuts!
Here an example how I compare the US and Thai medial. Whenever in Thailand, get some Diclox. Sometimes I get skin problems which can get serious. Cost is figure 2 baht a tablet, so whenever I get an inflammation, cost in the 60 baht range. Few years ago in the States had an inflammation. Of course, cannot get generic diclox over the counter. So appointment to see some damn doctor. They wanted to know my life history, and of course the most important: medical insurance. Finally out the door. Got the diclox prescription. Go to pharm. Not only lost a day, and cost was over $200.
So I do ask ... which system is better. Gee, I wonder: 2 minutes and 60 baht or loss of a day and cost over $200. Cost of medical in the States would kill anyone. And now under Patriot, anyone who brings diclox / any medical scripts back to the States is practically considered a terrorist !
Anyway, don't get me started. Point is that am a huge proponent of medical tourism, and Thailand is a great place for it.
--Popper
Mr Enternational
10-19-10, 08:55
This off topic perhaps, but just my two baht worth on medical. Am a huge medical tourist . Whenever I head to Thailand (or RP / Indo), twice or three times a year I always get my teeth cleaned for about 800 baht. Often swap a filling for about the same price. As I posted before, one of my bar gals had a molar which was black. I paid a dentist for her molar pulled, x-rays, and medicine (800/b to pull, 200/b for X-ray, and 200/b for medicine for total 1200 baht). Cost in the States ... completely nuts!In the States they told me that I would need a root canal on top of one that I had gotten in the navy 20 years ago. This was going to cost me $300 with insurance. I went to the dentist in Thailand and she said I only needed to get it refilled. She didn't take x-rays or anything. She drilled out and refilled 2 of my teeth without drugs and I didn't feel anything. 800 baht. And I paid 700 baht the next day for a heavy duty deep cleaning which hurt worse than the drilling and filling. Two years have gone by and I haven't had any more problems.
El Frances
10-19-10, 08:56
It is true you can buy many antibiotics perfectly legally in Thailand with a perscription, but that is true in many other places. It is only in certain Western countries that governments and medical groups keep prices artificially high by insisting you need a prescription and stopping competition on even generic drugs. Which in the case of some drugs of obviously a good thing. If you do but antibiotics, get them from a respectable pharmacy. You often get asked whether you want the branded drugs or generics (which are much cheaper) for drugs which are out of patent. I have been known to take a course of Doxycycline home just in case something starts to itch.
J.
My experience is that they would sell you any drug without caring if you have a prescription or not.
Mr Enternational
10-19-10, 09:04
Almost $20USD per tablet? Ok - we all can use an assist once and a while, but that seems like an awefully high price. Gimme 4 SW's from Beach Road ST for the same price and I would hope that variety does prove to be the spice of life.
SunLover$20/pill seems to be the going price for genuine Viagra the world over. When it first came out I was able to go to the doctor in the States and get a prescription. A 30 day supply would cost me $20 with my insurance and since I didn't use it I would sell it to my friends for $10 each. Those days have long been over.
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