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Lethalsoul
05-27-08, 01:59
Old man back from Thailand with his new Thai bride.
Lying in bed, the Thai bride is playing with his manhood, slowly stroking it up and down.
The old boy says, 'You must love that, you haven't left it alone since we got back!'
The bride replied, 'Not really, I just miss mine.'
Rockabilly77
05-27-08, 06:30
Old man back from Thailand with his new Thai bride.
Lying in bed, the Thai bride is playing with his manhood, slowly stroking it up and down.
The old boy says, 'You must love that, you haven't left it alone since we got back!'
The bride replied, 'Not really, I just miss mine.'Lol, thats good. I'll have to remember that one!
I haven't stopped laughing yet!
I have a bunck of Marriott points that I was thinking about burning in Pattaya. But, I did a search and couldn't find out if the Marriott is Girl Friendly.
I've stayed at the Marriott for years, and the Royal Garden Hotel before it was the Marriott. There's never been a guest fee and it's rare I've spent the night alone. Definitiely GFF. It's a little pricier than other hotels, but the location is excellent; very close to the nightlife and anything you need at the adjacent mall. It's probably one of the nicest hotels in central Pattaya.
I guess its not up on the level that the Marriot is, but I choose to stay at the Sandy Spring hotel in soi 13.
If you book the sea view room at a rate of 1500 its very nice.
Its small cozy, quiet at night, but still in the center of everything. Its even have a nice pool. And the staff are just lovely and fantastic there.
Every time I go there I buy a bottle of black label for the man in charge downstairs.
That gives me a lot of benefits. Even the hotel are perfectly girl friendly from before.
If you want to book. Book on Scandibar.com Then you dont have to use any creditcards during booking. Just based on trust. You even get a free beer in Scandinavia bar every day for you stay.
Good luck.
Kenorvik.
I guess its not up on the level that the Marriot is, but I choose to stay at the Sandy Spring hotel in soi 13.
If you book the sea view room at a rate of 1500 its very nice.
Its small cozy, quiet at night, but still in the center of everything. Its even have a nice pool. And the staff are just lovely and fantastic there.
Every time I go there I buy a bottle of black label for the man in charge downstairs.
That gives me a lot of benefits. Even the hotel are perfectly girl friendly from before.
If you want to book. Book on Scandibar.com Then you dont have to use any creditcards during booking. Just based on trust. You even get a free beer in Scandinavia bar every day for you stay.
Good luck.
Kenorvik.Seaview-room from May 1. to 'Dec. 24 is 1600 Baht.
Member #4351
05-30-08, 22:39
Randito,
I suggest you pay Jackson his $19.95 so that you can send and receive PMs. This should be on the Pattaya hotel thread. I stayed at the Marriott some months ago. Perfect location. Great pool. Excellent Gym. Completely GF. Too expensive for the conditions of the rooms. Bathrooms suck for the price one has to pay. Charge for internet. Good breakfast as at all Marriotts. You will gain weight at the Benihana Sunday Brunch with chocolate room. I will stay there again because the pros outweigh the cons.
hello everybody,
i have been reading the forum for two months now and i decided to join the monger comunity. i am planing my first trip to los and pattaya in august. this forum has provided me all the information possible that a rookie should know and i can't wait to add my own contribution. but even thought i rtff day and night i still could not find an answer regarding the fetish bdsm scene.
does bkk or pattaya have a bdsm fetish scene or for this purpose is a dead trip and los is something only for massages and cheap normal sex?
any response will be greatly appreciated.i am currently living in buenos aires but was last in pattaya in 2006.
on that visit amongst my constant mongering endeavors, i did try out a fetish club of which i believe is the only one.
i went alone, and you must dress in something black to get in, and a peephole in on the door opens to ask if you have been there before, not sure why but i played along. anyway when inside i sat at the bar and only one other was there at that time, it was early evening.
they had a few different stage show scenes going on with girls dressed in latex, schoolgirl, nurses etc. and doing some bondage and spanking/strapping displays. i was told that if i want to touch any girls of interest to go ahead. once you show that interest the girls take you to a private room. i had select 3 hot ones and they put me in a dentist chair and had me disrope while they massaged, sucked and displayed what i desired accept no actual penetration was allowed in the club as you strike a deal for an outcall.
i forgot the prices ut wasnt that cheap but a memeorable experience never the less. check it out below.
http://www.the-castle-pattaya.com/site.html
Jimmy Red Cab
06-01-08, 16:10
Hello everybody,
I have been reading the forum for two months now and I decided to join the monger comunity. I am planing my first trip to LOS and Pattaya in August. THis forum has provided me all the information possible that a rookie should know and I can't wait to add my own contribution. But even thought I RTFF day and night I still could not find an answer regarding the fetish bdsm scene.
Does BKK or Pattaya have a bdsm fetish scene or for this purpose is a dead trip and LOS is something only for massages and cheap normal sex?
Any response will be greatly appreciated.
There is a small BDSM scene, apart from The Castle in Pattaya there is Demonia on Soi 33 Bangkok and also BARBAR in Patpong, they like you to wear black but it is not essential ----expensive though, 900 baht entrance includes your first drink.
www.barbar-bangkok.com
Cheap Meat
06-02-08, 14:28
Heheheheh. Just wanted to know if other people like me are playing these tricks to get free sex in Pattaya. If you've read 'ChicksforFree' on Stickman or one of my many columns, you know what I'm talking about. I don't pay for sex. I play games and trick the girls into giving it to me!
I am literally 'living it up' in Patts on 2, 000 baht a day.
Jimmy and Expat
Thank you for you answers. I have foud those websites myself but almost no reviews or opinions. I guess I will try them anyway and see how it goes.
Happy hunting
RUn man I don't know what you mean.Tell me how can I send you what you have asked me and I will do it.
Zap
It is slow in Pataya, as the falangs have thinned out. The girls are desperate! It is an excellent time to visit. There is an excellent girl to guy ratio right now. Yet it hasn't rained much.
RUn man I don't know what you mean.Tell me how can I send you what you have asked me and I will do it.Zap
I tried to PM you the links/info but received this message below.
Zap2003 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.
I tried to PM you the links/info but received this message below.
Zap2003 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her. Zap should pay up.
I tried to PM you the links/info but received this message below.
Zap2003 has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her.
Run Mann, Zap is a regular member and can not recieve PM's.
Have a read of FAQ's, Membership Type questions.
Run Mann, Zap is a regular member and can not recieve PM's.
Have a read of FAQ's, Membership Type questions.
You should read it because some regular members can receive PMs. There's no way to tell if a reg member can receive PMs until you send it to them as was the case here.
One Tree Hill
06-06-08, 01:54
It is slow in Pataya, as the falangs have thinned out. The girls are desperate! It is an excellent time to visit. There is an excellent girl to guy ratio right now. Yet it hasn't rained much.
I'll be there by noon today! I love low crowds and bagain fares!
You should read it because some regular members can receive PMs. There's no way to tell if a reg member can receive PMs until you send it to them as was the case here.
I did read the FAQ's, so if the regular members are able to recieve PM's then there is something wrong with the website, because it clearly states that only senior members can recieve PM's.
I did read the FAQ's, so if the regular members are able to recieve PM's then there is something wrong with the website, because it clearly states that only senior members can recieve PM's.
I think regular members can receive PM's if they pay the $19.95 subscription fee. I could send and receive PM's before I became a senior member because I paid the fee.
I did read the FAQ's, so if the regular members are able to recieve PM's then there is something wrong with the website, because it clearly states that only senior members can recieve PM's.
The Q and A below was taken from the Forum FAQ. You clearly did not read it and the word is receive and not the way you spelt it in your last two posts.
Q-Do I have to be a Forum Member to access the Private Messaging system?
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Cheap Meat
06-07-08, 06:37
It is slow in Pataya, as the falangs have thinned out. The girls are desperate! It is an excellent time to visit. There is an excellent girl to guy ratio right now. Yet it hasn't rained much.Guess that means 'free' sex then huh?
Love Seeker
06-07-08, 07:59
i am a college professor, divorced who just turned 50, from the midwestern united states. with the summer off (except an online class that i am actually teaching from thailand). i have decided to spend my summer in pattaya. i was able to obtain a very good monthly rate in the off-season of 13,900 baht plus electric, which should be about $500.00 us a month. this hotel has free wireless internet, in-room electronic safe, pool on the roof, owned by an american, and is well located. they have no problem with guest and i am very satisfied with my hotel choice. i do not want to publicly post the name. however ,if you pm me i will give you the hotel information. they have a good web site. i stayed at the flipper lodge on soi 8 in december (when i was on christmas break). i was satisfied with the flipper, and would have returned there, however they would not offer a monthly rate.
i obtained a 90 day double entry tourist visa for $60.00 through the mail before i entered thailand. i left from the detroit airport may 13, and after 30 hours of travel, i arrived in pattaya in the early morning hours of may 15. upon entry at the bangkok airport, my passport was stamped with a 60 day stamp. which reading this and other forums, i knew was likely to happen. my return ticket is for august 4. so i have the alternative of going to an immigration office in pattaya and paying 1900 baht for a 30 extension or leaving the country and returning. i am considering spending a week in siem reap, cambodia, and see the angkor wat. i am thinking of going july 1 – 8, then returning to pattaya. i would like some suggestions as to hotels to stay in siem reap? should i fly or take a bus? suggestions from those who have been there would be most welcome.
let me share some information and opinion with forum readers on pattaya. i will start with the low end and work up to the higher end.
beach girls
the lowest end is the “beach girls”. these are independent ladies that are working all along the beach. they are short time specialist and the standard price 500 baht. i have actually found a couple of diamonds in the rough. and rough is the right word for many of these girls. most are a bit older, have had children, and have been struck with an ugly stick. another disadvantage is that there are many ladyboys working the beach. actually some of the ladyboys, are prettier than the many of the beach girls, but they are not my interest, i require the proper plumbing. the advantages of the beach girls are that they are available 24/7. before i got my time adjusted, i was taking walks along beach road as soon as it was daylight at 6:00 am and girls were available. the main advantage is no lady drinks, or bar fines, and only a 500 baht fee. it is hard to know exactly, but i would estimate between 300-400 girls are working the beach.
[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)
[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is actually a short walk from my hotel on soi diana off soi 14 from second road. [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is 700 baht for a blow job upstairs. of the 700 baht the girl gets 300 baht and the bar gets 400 baht. the girls set outside the bar, and there are about 40 girls working at any one time. [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) opens in the late afternoon and is open until 3:00 am. you simply pick the girl you want and pay the bar and take her upstairs. though you could do [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) for only 700 baht, i believe that most men’s toll would be about 1000 baht, because you are likely to relax and purchase a drink and you will most likely purchase a “lady drink” for the girl that you have selected, and you will most likely want to leave the girl a 40-100 baht tip. these girls are blow job specialist, they do not require condoms and will allow you to cum in their mouth. so even though your total tariff will be around 1000 baht it is a good value.
soi six
there are 30 to 40 bars along soi six between second road and beach road. with each bar having 30 to 40 girls, some of the larger soi six bars have even more girls. soi six also has ladyboys. soi six bars all have standard pricing 300 baht for use of the room upstairs and 700 baht for the girl. again, you will buy at least one drink for yourself and at least one lady drink for the girl you choose, so your total fare should be around 1,200 – 1,400 baht. i have also taken two girls and had lesbian action and a good threesome for 2,000 baht (1000 for each girl) the key advantages of soi six are that the bars are all inside and air conditioned, making it a very good option for an afternoon. they have music on a computer that customers can control (i like this because i like the blues ,muddy waters, howlin wolf, john lee hooker, and classic rock, the rolling stones, the who) the right music can make your experience better, by putting you in a good mood. you can play pool with the girls and other patrons. you can have a relaxed and fun time at soi six. however, you may feel pressured as you walk along soi six and every girl shouts “wecome” “come one drink” “you handsome man”, but after you enter a bar i always have a good experience. the other advantage is that these girls know what they are doing. if you are going to have brain surgery you want a surgeon with much experience, if you want some really good sex go to soi six because these girls are experienced.
beer bars
the fourth level is my favorite level, because you can find many very pretty young girls to spend all night with you for less than the price of a tank of gas (especially true at $4.00 a gallon). there are about 2000 or more beer bars all over pattaya, with 10 to 30 girls working at each one. you can find all ages, shapes, and sizes of girl at beer bars. the standard bar fine is 300 baht, and 1000 baht for the girl, for long time, which means all night. you get one pop in the evening and a second pop in the morning, if you can perform (i need the help of blue pills, which are readably available without a perception at 100’s of pharmacies). again, you will buy at least one drink for yourself, and you will buy the girl you select at least one lady drink. so your total fare will be around 1,500 baht. i am not a big drinker. if i wanted to stay out until 2:00, 3:00am, and drink 10 beers i could stay home and do that. i am fucking up my vacation if i do not have a 20 year old, pretty, hard-body, naked, in my bed, by midnight. if you are a heavier drinker than me you will need to add more money for beer. beer prices are much lower at beer bars, most 80 -100 baht. i often drink water for 40 -60 baht or a diet coke for 60-80 baht at beer bars.
key advantages of beer bars is you can buy a girl a lady drink and a drink for yourself and the girl will set with you for an hour, playing a couple of different beer bar games or just visit with you depending on her english ability and your thai ability. often you can visit with other westerners, some beer bars have live music, some pretty good, some pretty bad. you have many choices with beer bars, some have very loud music, and many are more relaxed. i never feel pressured at a beer bar. although there are several thousand beer bars to choose from i find myself returning to the same two or three that i like. the key disadvantage of beer bars is they are all outdoors, with no air conditioning, and it is so hot here that the trees often walk around looking for dogs to help cool them off.
soapy massages
on second road and soi 2 there are three soapy places, the best being sabai dee body massage. if you have never experienced this, put it on your “bucket list”. it is not your cheapest choice, 1,700 baht for one hour. but it could be one of the best hours of your life. you select a girl from a “fish bowl” depending when you go you will have 30 – 50 girls to choose from. it opens at 2:00 pm however, all the girls don’t get there until later, maybe 5:00 or 6:00 being a good time to get a soapy. you select a girl and she takes you to a room with a jacuzzi tub, air mattress, and bed. what pleasure these girls can give you with their beautiful young bodies, warm water, and soap is not to be believed until experienced. the advantage is you do not need to purchase drinks for the girl. i usually purchase one drink for myself and spend 20 to 30 minutes looking over all my options.
go go bars
there are go go bars all over pattaya, not just on walking street, although walking street has some of the best, and is not to be missed. the bar fines are double the beer bars, 600 baht at most of them. the girls will also want double the price of beer bar girls as well, for longtime 2000 baht, and may come up with an excuse (sick mother or baby), often after a phone call, not to spent the night with you, and turning the experience into short time. the girl will still like the entire long time fee. here is where you should be strong and tell her that she is free to leave, but if she does she is only leaving with 1000 baht (which is still a high fee for short time). go go bar girls tend to be younger, and prettier, although i have had no problem finding some stunning beauties at beer bars. the key advantage of go go bars is you can see what you are getting. you may get your beer bar girl home and find that she has stretch marks that she kept well hidden. another advantage is they are air conditioned. the disadvantage is price, drinks are more expensive, both yours and your lady drinks. expect to pay 100 to 160 baht for drinks. and from my perspective the music sucks that the girls like to dance too. this is personal preference, if you are younger and in pattaya for a short time, you may prefer go go bars. if you are like me 50 years old and here for an extended period you may prefer the beer bars as i do.
Thank you for your report love seeker
But. Did you made any spelling mistake when you said this?
"There are about 2000 or more beer bars"
"Although there are several thousand beer bars to choose from"
There are thousands of bars or hundreds? Just curious as I have never been there but planning very soon.
Thank you
The Q and A below was taken from the Forum FAQ. You clearly did not read it and the word is receive and not the way you spelt it in your last two posts.
Q-Do I have to be a Forum Member to access the Private Messaging system?
A-Yes. You must be logged in as a Regular or Senior Member to use the Private Message System.
Regular Members may post reports, view and upload photographs, and use the private message system.
OK. But it does not say that under Membership Categories, it only says regular members can upload photos but not view them of send/recieve PM's.
Maybe Jackson needs to update that part of the website.
decided i wanted a nice healthy blowjob this morning so i rode the bike over to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)’s. it’s open for monkey business every day at 10am. my favorite girl there is pim, a sweet 22 year old with a genuinely lovely smile. she’s a little on the chunky side but makes up for that deficiency with a happy smiling attitude as well as top notch aptitude for her job(s). pim recognized me right away with a big grin on her face. twenty minutes later, after lots of ball licking, deep throating, shaft sucking, head slurping, tongue probing and alltogether thorough genital mouthing, i stood up to watch her receive and swallow the whole load like a good little girl. pim loves her job and she’s great!
this is for mick: swallowing is a rare and much appreciated part of the overall bbbj cim service experience for dedicated fellatio fetishists like me. i never insist upon it out of deference for the girls, but am always happy when it does go down.
in a word, swallowing is erotic.
regards,
daddy
"There are about 2000 or more beer bars"
"Although there are several thousand beer bars to choose from"
There are thousands of bars or hundreds?
There probably are a thousand or two, but perhaps not many thousands. But as for the population of streetwalkers along Beach Road, to me it looks closer to 100, at best, than 300-400.
I am considering spending a week in Siem Reap, Cambodia, and see the Angkor Wat. I am thinking of going July 1 – 8, then returning to Pattaya. I would like some suggestions as to hotels to stay in Siem Reap? Should I fly or take a bus? Suggestions from those who have been there would be most welcome.If you are in for the temples, go overland. Take the 8 AM bus from Pattaya to Mukdahan until Aranyaprathet. It has more leg room than the other buses going that route and the difference of 2 dollars or so wont kill you.
You can get a cambodian visa at US 26 total cost online and save a full passport page. google for cambodia and evisa.
When crossing into Cambodia a Poipet people will try to sell you anything in the line of bus seats to Siem Reap. 10 US - 15 US should be plenty. I did it for 6 with a little like.
I worthwhile alternative might be this. Go only to Sisophon (sway). Stay overnite, if you into the rough wild of Cambodia, have a look at the railroad track scene there. Very scenic.
Next morning take a motobike at to Bantey Chmar Temple (5 US entrance fee) and see another temple some 5 km before. The main temple is a gem and huge. Not second to the reliefs at Angkor. You come back in the early afternoon and can get to Siem Reap in time.
The road to Bantey Chmar is pretty good and 10 US return should do the trick. Food is avaible at the temple as are drinks/coffee (small village and clean food).
THe temple is a good choice if you like to see more of Cambodia as opposed to the tourist craze at Siem Reap.
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well - it's like this: to get from Grungthep to Cambodia (Siem Riep) is an all day thing - leave 7 or 8, get in about 6 or so by bus/train/taxi etc
Fly - 1 hour but costs a lot more (about 3X or 2X as much) - maybe 3000B versus $30 or so by ground trans.
Depends on how much your time is worth. I'll tell you that the trip overland back from PP to BKK took 15 hours and cost $31 10 days ago. Flying would have been $97 so was 13 hours (it would have taken 1 hour to get from near the central market to the airport at a cost of about $5 or so) worth $70? (includes the taxi to the airport)
Go read talesofasia.com "cambodia overland via Koh Kong" - my 29May (I think it was 29 May anyway) report is in there
Overland is not fun, but moderately scenic (even if time consuming) - unless you choose to cheap charlie and ride in the back of a pickup truck - just you and the DIRT - and there is PLENTY of RED DUST if the road is dry
Your call. IF you want to spend the time, "up to you".
Fly - 1 hour but costs a lot more (about 3X or 2X as much) - maybe 3000B
Where are flights available to Siem Reap for 3000 baht? From where? Which airline? Thats a lot cheaper than it has been in the past.
Riding in the back of a pickup truck to Siem Reap would have to be about one of the most unpleasant things a person could possibly do in Southeast Asia. I guess being eaten alive by crocodiles would top it. Not by much tho.
I did that trip in a car once. Never again. At 3000 baht a flight, if thats right, you'd be nuts to not fly.
I was thinking about PP actually - about 5000B round trip on AirAsia for July including taxes + $25 to get out of PP
The BUS was bad enough
PP-Koh Kong - 6.5 hours (1 hour to just get out of PP)
It's still better to fly to PP and bus north to SR than to go all overland
its been well over a year since i ventured to los. i managed to squeeze a 2 day layover and decided to avoid the stress of bkk and head to pattaya during low season so focus completely on mongering. with only 2 days i had to choose between the beer bar culture (more work, cheaper, more gf but somewhat riskier) or instant gratification. as you can see i chose the latter. i chose secrets as my 2 day home and even chose their cab service to get me there straight away. i actually was thinking of getting one of those luxury vans including 2 girls for the ride down. it’s just hard to justify $200+ for a cab ride for 1.5 hours.
secrets hotel is small, the rooms are small, there is no elevator and they overcharge for the ride but on the upside, it is right over secrets club in the heart of walking street and the rooms are cheap.
my plan was to get settled and start my short stay off with a bang. i checked in around 9am and by 10am was in a room at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) getting one of their famous impersonal bbbj. i then headed back to the hotel for breakfast and a nap.
my goal for the afternoon was to experience hell club. i have visited its sister club in bkk numerous times and almost always crawl back to the hotel with weak knees. i was the first customer of the day and met jack (one of the owners) who told me the story of the creation of the “franchise”.. about the frenchman who’s girlfriend loved bi girls and he started sharing all this with his friends. the deal, for those who don’t know, is that you pick 2 girls for 90 minutes for 3600 baht. there is a line in the middle of the room where the girls line up. those on the left are usually prettier and provide 2 hole service (jacks words) while those girls on the right of the line provide 3 hole service.
i picked one from the left and one from the right. the girls came over and snuggled up while i drank my beer, went and grabbed a bag of goodies (lube, toys, condoms) and off we went to the room upstairs. they turned on some porn, took me into the shower to scrub me well, laughing, touching, kissing, giggling the whole time. i’m not going to go into the graphic detail but let me simply say that these girls are very good at what they do and the next 90 minutes was non stop fingers, mouths, bodies, toys, cock and pussies in any combination i wanted (including them with each other). 90 minutes later there was a knock on the door, i showered and with very weak knees walked downstairs.
after a decent nap i headed out to check out the clubs. next door to secrets is a kinky gogo (cant remember the name) --- the girls are nude and come by to sit with you. these girls waste no time getting their hands on you and making sure your hands are on them. i took 2 of them home my last day…. see the end of the report. i checked out the beach club where the girls dance on mirrored tables without and panties on, and a dozen --- all the same clubs. the new thing is that the gogos seem to all have a jacuzzi where the girls play and for a little tip you can too. they all try to have some theme but frankly they are all pretty much alike. ended up taking a sweet young thing home for the night for from club boesche 1500tb l/t. she was a great find and we had a blast.
the next day was pretty much blur with a session with the lt sweety then, a short term in the afternoon on soi 13 (thank god for the little blue pills). i checked out the beer bar on the pier that is trying to replicate the nana beer bar. just not enough girls to make it fun yet. i do wish them well. i ended the night by taking a couple girls from 69 club. they were all over me in the club, agreed to 1k each st (i was leaving that night) but when we got back to the hotel they started to renegotiate and wouldn’t do bbbj and was just not fun. oh well, that happens in our hobby. just got to get it over with and move on with a smile.
next – jakarta – 1st time
I was thinking about PP actually
Ah ok. Thought that sounded too good to be true. Some day, we'll eventually get normal fares to fly to Siem Reap.
First time to Pattaya. I stayed at Secrets Hotel, largely because it is so close to Walking Street. I thought it might be like some short-time or love-hotel dive, but it’s a nice little hotel. Very well placed. The bar itself is ace too. Very good for the first time visitor. It’s not the best idea to BF one of the girls from the bar, then bring girls back to your room from other gogos on subsequent nights. Well I got a few nasty looks for it anyway.
I didn’t venture too far from walking street but here’s my thoughts: I liked Baby Dolls the best, because the girls in here were the most fun. Best looking girls I thought were in Angelwitch, but that place ripped me off for a drink so I wouldn’t go back. All the other main gogos were pretty good: Boesche, Livingdolls 1 and 2, Peppermint, Champions and many more. Happy was always too busy for my liking. Prices (always asked after 23:00): 2k seemed to be standard for LT; I didn’t bother to haggle. I got one of the lasses for free (paid the BF, mind) and another for 1k, perhaps because I am a little younger than most Patts visitors?
Much as I still love BKK, Pattaya had the better P4P seen, I thought: no difference I could tell in quality of looks but far cheaper; less LBs in Patts; and most importantly the girls were more fun. I don’t, however, know how people can stand it (no pun intended) for 2 weeks, 5 days was enough for me.
Cheers
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Love Seeker
06-18-08, 02:37
On Walking Street you will find touts with cards trying to get you to follow them to a bar with live sex shows and lesbian shows. Also shows with Girls taking razor blade out of there pussies and shooting ping pong balls and darts out of pussies. The touts say 300 to 500 Baht with one “free drink”. I have never followed one of these touts to the bar because I do not like touts. I saw one of these shows in Pat Pong, Bangkok some years back. Can anyone give me the name and location of one of these bars in Pattaya. I am sure that if I go on my own the cover charge will be less, because the bar would not have to pay the tout.
I thought after seeing one of those sex shows once no one would want to return because the girls performing these shows are tough on the eyes and the shows are about as boring as watching some go-go girls dance. However, World Wide a GO-GO on Beach Road near Soi 7 has a sex and lesbian show as does the club at the end of the street that Angel Witch is on near Walking Street.
On Walking Street you will find touts with cards trying to get you to follow them to a bar with live sex shows and lesbian shows. Also shows with Girls taking razor blade out of there pussies and shooting ping pong balls and darts out of pussies. The touts say 300 to 500 Baht with one “free drink”. I have never followed one of these touts to the bar because I do not like touts. I saw one of these shows in Pat Pong, Bangkok some years back. Can anyone give me the name and location of one of these bars in Pattaya. I am sure that if I go on my own the cover charge will be less, because the bar would not have to pay the tout.
With bars closing and reopening regularly, I do not know the current names of bars with shows.
However in my experience, there was NEVER any cover charge for shows, (this being the exclusive reserve of the Patpong upstairs bars, Normal go-go bar prices should prevail
I went to one on the second floor on walking street Tuesday evening. There were two tourist girls from Germany who were dancing and carrying on (they actually danced better than the thai girls. It ended up in a row with drinks being thrown. They did the rasor blades, shot banana's out of her pussy, shot darts at balloons. Yes, a "tout" did tell us of the 200 baht cover that included a drink. Tonight we are going to the other sex show bar up one of the side streets. There is always someone around who will try to get you to come in.
Last year I went to Angels for the show. It was great There was another show bar on walking street I enjoyed last year but they have downsized it. The show was still good. Tomorrow off to Phnom Penh.
With bars closing and reopening regularly, I do not know the current names of bars with shows.
However in my experience, there was NEVER any cover charge for shows, (this being the exclusive reserve of the Patpong upstairs bars, Normal go-go bar prices should prevail
I went to one on the second floor on walking street Tuesday evening. There were two tourist girls from Germany who were dancing and carrying on (they actually danced better than the thai girls. It ended up in a row with drinks being thrown. They did the rasor blades, shot banana's out of her pussy, shot darts at balloons.
Those German girls sure learn pretty quick. ;-)
I thought after seeing one of those sex shows once no one would want to return because the girls performing these shows are tough on the eyes and the shows are about as boring as watching some go-go girls dance. However, World Wide a GO-GO on Beach Road near Soi 7 has a sex and lesbian show as does the club at the end of the street that Angel Witch is on near Walking Street.
That would be Baby dolls(petting zoo!). Bath and stage lezy show. Audience touching allowed.
Thepprasit road, soi 8, Dao karaoke
Here is a report about a good experience on March, 15, this year, from an area in Pattaya, which is to my knowledge, not so much frequented by farangs.
Around midnight I went with a male Thai friend to this place. I told him I wanted to fuck a lady, age 19 or 20 years young. When he parked the motorbike I saw we had come to the right place. Some young fresh-looking ladies were loooking at us.
We went inside the establishment. We were the only customers at that time. My friend had been there before. We ordered Coke and said, no we do not want to sing a song. We only want to talk to the ladies and bomm-bomm. I saw a young one; slim, breasts of acceptable size, attractive ass and long hair. I made eye-contact with her and said hallo. She came to the sofa where we were sitting. She also wanted Coke. I started to talk to her. Together with other information about her I found out she had good age, no babies, no silicon, can bomm-bomm with farang dick, OK bomm-bomm slowly, not a tobacco-user, OK to shower together and permits me to kiss her breasts. We made a deal. She spoke absolutely no English and when my limited Thai was not enough I had my friend translating. I went to the counter and paid 740 baht. That was the short time-price. And short time was one hour in a room in an adjacent building. The karaoke kept 240 baht and mama-san gave 500 baht to the lady.
She and I walked one minute to a short-time-hotel. A lady-man-maid took us to a bed-room that had not been cleaned for some time. I locked the room from the inside. The shower was a hose and only cold water. Never mind that, I concentrated on taking off her clothes and I liked what I saw. For reasons of security I put my trousers on a nail on the wall in the bath-room. In the shower I cleaned every intimate part of her body and she did the same to me. That was a good start.
Back to the room and taking off the towel I started the treatment of her breasts with fingers, tongue and lips. I took a close look at her well-shaved pussy. I wanted to kiss, suck and bite the pussy-lips. But, I must protect myself. I had planned for this by bringing extra-condoms and a pair of scissors. I opened one condom and made a cut on the length of the condom. Voila, I have a rubber-sheet with size about 15 x 15 centimeter. I put the rubber-sheet on the pussy and start licking, kissing and sucking. With my thumbs and my forefingers I make the rubber-sheet stay over the pussy. It works fine. (Sometimes I tell the lady to help with two fingers put on the rubber-sheet above the clitoris.) I could tell by the expression on her face this was the first time a man had kissed her pussy like that.
We fucked in various positions.missionary, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl and doggy. It makes an old man very happy to see his dick going in-and-out a young and small pussy. I had to use plenty of will-power not to come when I squeezed her buttocks in doggy-style. The lady-man-maid knocked on the door and said that the hour was almost over. We changed back to cowgirl and I had a good orgasm. Another shower and we were out of the short-time-hotel.
Back at the karaoke we had more Coke. I think one bottle of Coke was 30 baht. Cuddling in the sofa and looking deep in the eyes. I learned that her working hours were from 6 PM to 6 AM. If I wanted to take her out of the karaoke to my hotel the price was 2 000 baht and then she could stay with me until 8 AM. My male friend and I left Thepprasit road, soi 8, around 2. 30 AM. At that time the neighbourhood was not that nice. Some drunk Thai men walking around or driving around on motor-bikes and making a lot of noice. Then I was glad to be in the company of a Thai man.
I did not go back to Thepprasit road. My regular Thai girlfriend come to me the following day and when I stay with her I have everything I need for my sexual appetite. This time, this presumebly good girl also gave me chlamydia, (yes, I fuck her without condom) but that is a report I intend to write another day.
Over all it was a good experience at Thepprasit road. I will go there again.
I do not know which time of the evening/night is the best to go there. My friend told me that the early evening is not good because then working Thai men sit there drinking, singing songs, get drunk and have the ladies entertaining them.
Tom Ling
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Well gentlemen, I made it to the Hell Club, a mere 3 hours after arriving in Pattaya.
I’m not going to give a blow-by-blow (excuse the pun) account of how I bust a nut 5 times, rather I will tell you why the Hell Club floated my boat.
I was greeted by Jack, what a top bloke. He gives advice on all sorts of stuff and so far has done a lot for me WRT info and organising a trip out with one of his imps, but enough of Jack-sorry mate.
We all know the HC formula, fine, and we all know that girls come (again no pun) and go, but I’ll tell you, the line-up that greeted me was mind boggling. There was no way I could pick one above another, well that is not strictly true. There isn’t one girl there who I wouldn’t take to a restaurant somewhere, or walk with hand-in-hand, in Pattaya, or elsewhere. They are not all the same, but each one is a serious babe.
How I picked Miss T, as I will call her, is beyond me. All the girls make eyes at you, that’s how they earn a crust, but one, Miss T stood out. It was like sexual chemistry drawing us together, so Miss T it was. Now, I had fully intended to pick a second girl myself, not let the girl choose, but to be honest, even with Miss T’s subliminal messages, picking one was a hard job, and they all looked so beautiful and cute, so I bottled out and let Miss T pick the second one, Miss J. She was a little thing, 20 years old, whereas Miss T was apparently 28! WTF? No way, anyway, to the loom we went.
It goes without saying that these girls have perfect bodies, that is if you like Thai girls, slim, proportioned, little tits, but not flat, they have tits, just little, and gorgeous arses. Last trip I spent some time with a bar girl whom I thought had the most gorgeous arse ever...wrong, Miss T must have made the template for arses.
Back to the plot. Now let’s be real here guys, effectively an orgasm is an orgasm, sometimes it is a real from the big toes one, sometimes just an ordinary moment of bliss. I am not going to pretend that these girls have magical powers, they don’t, but it’s how you get there that counts. Surrounded by mirrors, and with mirrors on the ceiling, you can lie back and watch as some LBFM sucks your cock, and the other sits on your face. Seeing my fat white body being engulfed by two little brown devils was in itself a huge turn on
I‘ve had plenty of 3somes before, but this experience sets a new benchmark. The girls interact so well. I have never really found the lesbian thing a turn-on, but when you have a girl straddling you, trying to f**k your brains out, and another with her minge in your face, and you manage to sneak a look past the soft brown flesh into the mirror to see them kissing...well, what can I say? But it’s not just that. It’s every opportunity. You turn your head for a minute and they are into each other. Jealousy reigns and they both get an extra seeing to.
We’ve all had starfish, I am sure. These girls were the exact opposite. I’ve screwed maybe 30 TGs in 2 trips, and I do my best to make them cum, and often it takes a bit of time. These girls I think came more than me. You know what the big difference is? These girls seem to genuinely like sex, pleasuring you, and doing a good job.
Guys, as I said at the start, an orgasm is an orgasm, but at the HC, the girls go not just that little bit further, but all the way to make sure it’s a fantastic experience. It is attitude that counts 100%. There’s plenty of drop dead gorgeous girls in Thailand, and many who will f**k you for money, but finding one, sorry two who will do it with such feeling is in my opinion rare. Sure, it’s all an act, isn’t most of life? But some acts are class ones, and the Hell Club is a class one, without a doubt. The management of the Club IMHO makes this place what it is. The girls are treated well, paid well, and subsequently they perform well.
Really, any monger who goes to Pattaya and doesn’t pay a visit to Hell is either just a tight bastard or gay, or maybe both, yeah, you can BF 2 bargirls and have them all night for a little over half the price, but then again you can rent a BMW, or a Skoda. They both do the same job, but it’s how they do it and the comfort of the ride.
Cheers.
FreebieFan
06-26-08, 05:17
Maybe a dumb question..and maybe the answer is somewhere to be found ..( not in airport fact sheet forum tho). but is the very easiest way to Pattaya from BKK airport by taxi or the bus. I have the bus price but will be in a hurry so does anyone know taxi cost??? Thanks!
Rambis Youth
06-26-08, 09:41
Taxi is definitely easier. Most likely in the 800-1200 baht range depending on your negotiating skills and other factors.
Should take about 90 minutes.
Kalimero68
06-26-08, 10:35
I went to one on the second floor on walking street Tuesday evening. There were two tourist girls from Germany who were dancing and carrying on (they actually danced better than the thai girls. It ended up in a row with drinks being thrown. They did the rasor blades, shot banana's out of her pussy, shot darts at balloons. Yes, a "tout" did tell us of the 200 baht cover that included a drink. Tonight we are going to the other sex show bar up one of the side streets. There is always someone around who will try to get you to come in.
Last year I went to Angels for the show. It was great There was another show bar on walking street I enjoyed last year but they have downsized it. The show was still good. Tomorrow off to Phnom Penh.Hey dude,
Great post about this germans yuppies shows, but man, we are in Pattaya and mens come to this place to have all kindof sex because every where else they have those stupid shows with ''hot chicks but no sex'' stuff. I think you should post in some other country where sex is rare. No offense and have fuck in Pattaya.
the 800B is pretty much "unavailable" unless you can find a driver just "going back" empty - While you can get TO BKK from Pattaya for 800+ tolls, getting from BKK to Pattaya for 800 likely won't happen. See if you can find anyone else going that way and share a cab for 600 or so each (4 years ago I spent 1300B for 2 guys from Don muang - while it's "closer" to Swampy, gas prices have skyrocketed.
As much as I don't like spending extra money, give the drivers a break - they have to make a living, too.
As to the "Airport trans fact sheet" link - a couple of days ago I sent off a bit of "added info" to the admin, but I haven't heard anything back or seen any changes yet. There are more buses to Pattaya/Jomtien than are listed in the fact sheet. The FIRST bus to Pattaya (Jomtien) leaves at 6:45 AM for 121B
FreebieFan,
the arrivals on floor 2. If you go out, you will find a taxi counter. If i remember right, they normally ask 1500 Bath. If you move to the departure floor 4 you can catch a taxi who brings customer to the airport. Just ask them, they are normally interested too, to bring you to PTT, too. Last time i paid 1000Bath including the tool. Back to floor 2, if you go out of the hall there are some guys and ladies are offering a taxi. I told them that i will go to floor 4, because it is cheaper. They asked what i am willing to pay. I said 1000Bath. OK. I got it for
1000 Bath plus toll.
Regards,
Sam
the 800B is pretty much "unavailable" unless you can find a driver just "going back" empty - While you can get TO BKK from Pattaya for 800+ tolls, getting from BKK to Pattaya for 800 likely won't happen. See if you can find anyone else going that way and share a cab for 600 or so each (4 years ago I spent 1300B for 2 guys from Don muang - while it's "closer" to Swampy, gas prices have skyrocketed.
As much as I don't like spending extra money, give the drivers a break - they have to make a living, too.
As to the "Airport trans fact sheet" link - a couple of days ago I sent off a bit of "added info" to the admin, but I haven't heard anything back or seen any changes yet. There are more buses to Pattaya/Jomtien than are listed in the fact sheet. The FIRST bus to Pattaya (Jomtien) leaves at 6:45 AM for 121BThe taxis don't run on gas, they use LPG and that price has been relatively stable compared to gas.
ThaiLearner
06-27-08, 12:19
Maybe a dumb question..and maybe the answer is somewhere to be found ..( not in airport fact sheet forum tho). but is the very easiest way to Pattaya from BKK airport by taxi or the bus. I have the bus price but will be in a hurry so does anyone know taxi cost??? Thanks!
Try Mr T taxi who is based in Pattaya mr_ttaxi@hotmail.com 081-2587716.
Have used twice with no problems should be around 1000bht
The taxis don't run on gas, they use LPG and that price has been relatively stable compared to gas.
Are you sure about that? I know the tuktuk's run on propane but I've seen lot's of taxi's filling up with gas.
They are filling up with LPG. Not gasoline. Look at the pumps and do you see any other vehicles there but taxis. Maybe more other vehicles now but mostly taxis. Maybe your eyes are looking at the passengers. 5555555
Are you sure about that? I know the tuktuk's run on propane but I've seen lot's of taxi's filling up with gas.I was a passenger once in one of the many green and yellow Toyota Corolla taxis and had to pull into the Taxi's base station for a fill up. I was surprised to see scores of other taxis all being filled up with LPG.
Maybe your eyes are looking at the passengers. 5555555
Maybe so. Watching taxis fuel up isn't very exciting.
Maybe a dumb question..and maybe the answer is somewhere to be found ..( not in airport fact sheet forum tho). but is the very easiest way to Pattaya from BKK airport by taxi or the bus. I have the bus price but will be in a hurry so does anyone know taxi cost??? Thanks!I paid 1200 Baht for a 90 minute taxi ride from the new BKK airport to my hotel on Soi 8 in Pattaya. Like you, I was in a rush and totally jet lagged after my trip from the USA. After passing bus after bus, I thought the taxi money was well spent.
Cheap Meat
06-30-08, 02:46
As they say, up to you what you want to pay them. Sometimes I have the girls buy me drinks and pay for other stuff. Seriously! 9 times out of 10 I get away without giving the girl so much as a bowl of noodles.
How do I do it? Simple. I just don't discuss the money issue, and when it's time for her to leave, I take her back to her place. I say goodbye, and take off on my motorbike.
I get free sex everyday in Pattaya. No need to waste good money if she doesn't ask for it.
Lemon Tree
06-30-08, 04:58
I order since 6 years a private taxi from Pattaya. The car is a mini van, always new, clean and very comfortable. The driver is loyal and faithful.
We communicate via sms, so that he knows my flight number and arrival time. I also use his taxi if I need a closed taxi in Pattaya – going to U-Tapao airport or somewhere else in Pattaya or the surrounding areas. The prize is a little bit more expensive than normal taxis or bus – I pay for Bkk – Patty 1.500 Bath, for Patty – U-Tapao 1000 Baht and for a trip from North Patty to Jomtien 150 Bath.
OK, it is more expensive, but for me it is important to have a loyal driver, a secure car and someone I can call at every time I need him. That is worth for me to pay the difference between normal prizes and that kind of comfort.
Enjoy the time, gentlemen
Lemon Tree
I am ging to be in Pattaya mid November 08 till mid April 09 and need a 1 bedroom or large Studio in the area, preferably of Soi Dianna. If it is a walkup first floor would be OK but anything higher and I would need an elevator. Clean and serviced, not noisy. I would pay 9000 b month. Is that reasonable for a 5 month contract? I would greatly appreciate your comments and suggestions! Many Thanks!
Cactus J
LittleBigMan
07-01-08, 10:42
Cactus J,
I'm sure the price and location is very possible, but Soi Diana location in my personal opinion isn't consider to be quiet! Maybe others here in Pattaya know better.
LBM
how much comfort do you require? There actually isn't much with ground floor access on Diana. Perhaps Sawasdee Pattaya for your price range (maybe not - it all depends on what "deal" they would make), but I don't remember if they had easy access from the street level to the lobby. They DO have a lift
Otherwise I know of a couple of "other" places not on Diana but with BASIC facilities (and I DO MEAN basic) A/C rooms on Soi10 off 2nd road
I'm basing a lot of this on you riding a chair.which might be incorrect
Thanks Gents! I am just an old fart with golf clubs to carry each day and that is the reason for elevator need above 1st floor. I have stayed at the Swasadee Pattaya and it was very noisy with crazy drunk Russians. Last year I stayed at Charlie Place which was good but best rate I got was 800b.
I would certainly consider a decient place at Soi 10 and 2nd Road, just reasonably close to Soi Dianna as that is where I plan to play most of my golf from. Your help is really appreciated!
Cactu J
Wayne Carey
07-03-08, 14:58
After 2 years I am on my way back to Pattaya later this month. I have been several times and it is always a blast. Are there any members out there who would like to catch up for a beer or share a particularly hot or enthusiastic girl with me via PM. You will need to have some respect for the girls and be a decent guy. I am not a fan of people who treat the girls like shit.
Evil Penivel
07-04-08, 17:17
You will need to have some respect for the girls and be a decent guy. I am not a fan of people who treat the girls like shit.
You are setting the bar quite high for Pattaya. It's will be hard to find guys who don't treat the girls like shit. The saddest thing is they are proud of it and consider it to be the sign of a veteran monger. You always have to keep in mind that Pattaya is the capital of White Trashistan.
Evil
I order since 6 years a private taxi from Pattaya. The car is a mini van, always new, clean and very comfortable. The driver is loyal and faithful. We communicate via sms, so that he knows my flight number and arrival time. I also use his taxi if I need a closed taxi in Pattaya – going to U-Tapao airport or somewhere else in Pattaya or the surrounding areas. The prize is a little bit more expensive than normal taxis or bus – I pay for BKK – Patty 1. 500 Bath, for Patty – U-Tapao 1000 Baht and for a trip from North Patty to Jomtien 150 Bath.
OK, it is more expensive, but for me it is important to have a loyal driver, a secure car and someone I can call at every time I need him. That is worth for me to pay the difference between normal prizes and that kind of comfort.
Enjoy the time, gentlemen
Lemon TreeFor the past 4 years I have used Mr. Song. I got him trough a travelagent the first time.
Mr. Song is not only very reliable and pleasent; he is also one of the few Thai drivers who anticipates in trafic! He drives a very recent model Toyata Camry, always clean. Most important; I feel safe with him at the wheel; no aggresive driving. Suvarnabhumi-Pattaya last March was 1. 300 Baht (tolway included).
Mr. Song
Phone: +66 (0) 84 00 87 454
E-mail: ultramanathum01@hotmail.com
Member #2041
07-04-08, 20:21
You always have to keep in mind that Pattaya is the capital of White Trashistan.
Evil
Fortunately, it's also the capital of Thai Poontangistan
Returned last week from my second of three annual visits to Pattaya from the depths of Isaan. On this occasion my visit was limited to just two and half days.
Nevertheless I managed to enjoy the sexual pleasures of no less than 4 different girls.
As many of those who live permanently in Pattaya will know as well as people like me who spent many years in Pattaya in days of yore the P4P scene is not limited to just downtown Pattaya, and freelancers are available elsewhere other than Walking Street and Beach Road.
Whilst the numbers of girls available in these alternative locations are just a fraction of the "wall to wall" girls that line Beach Road and the quality is generally poor/bad, there are occasionally some acceptable/good girls available, and I was fortunate to find 4 such girls.
My criteria are small girls, not fat, nice happy faces, good bodies and hopefully nice small tits. My requirements are generally smoke and boom boom, which all 4 girls were happy to provide.
Girl No 1 provided all that was requested and enquired as to whether all was satisfactory, which it certainly was. The 2nd girl on day 1, after having smoked me for some 15 minutes, perhaps deciding that I was not going to cause her some serious problems invited me to have anal sex with her. With the assistance of some KY, which I always carry for just such occasions, I slowly and carefully penetrated her arse, being met with much noise from her which she constantly assured me were moans of pleasure rather than pain. After some 5 minutes I orgasmed and withdrew, only to be told that this had been her first but not her last experience of anal sex. WOW - an Anal Virgin. She then suddenly realised that she had not fully met her contractual obligations, and insisted I still had to boom boom her pussy. She spent the next 20+ minutes bringing me back to erection after which I mounted her in missionary to complete my 3rd orgasm of the day.
But the "piece de resistance" was yet to come. On day 2, I took a happy looking small mid 20's girl who seemed to meet all my other criteria, and after showering together, we went to the bed. There she surprised me by thoroughly enjoying herself shooting milk from her tits all over me. I was not only stunned but delighted - such small tits containing milk! I very soon took up the task of milking her myself, which started to turn her on, and when I started to suck on her tits and finger her quickly moistening pussy, she became highly aroused. When I finally used my tongue on her pussy and continued to milk her with my hands, she had 2 shuddering orgasms in quick succession.. Almost immediately she threw me off her, turned me over and mounted me whilst I continued to milk her with both hands and mouth. Very soon 2 further orgasms emanated, 1 from her and the other from me.
Being completely drained, we spent the next half hour lying together, kissing and cuddling whilst I intermittently milked her more with both hands and mouth. More boom boom was out of the question. What a fantastic girl.
I spent most of day 3 searching for her, without success, and finally resorted late in the day to my 4th and final girl who did not disappoint. Anal was not available, but she enjoyed me fingering her arse, and kindly reciprocated with her short fingers whilst smoking me
What a fabulous mini-break. 4 girls, a variety of sex and only costing 1200bt in total.
And upon arriving back home I realised my timing had been perfect. The wife had just commenced her period giving me some 4/5 days to regenerate a new head of steam!
Evil Penivel
07-05-08, 06:43
What a fabulous mini-break. 4 girls, a variety of sex and only costing 1200bt in total.
But you really should have paid the other three girls something for their efforts.
Evil
Apologies if this is the wrong thread to post this query.
Editors, please move it to whereever it is appropriate. Thank you.
I am a south-indian planning a three day trip to Pattaya.
Came accross quite a few articles indicating the dislike that Thai women may have for Indians.
This one is a really worrying news.
http://www.pattayadailynews.com/shownews.php?IDNEWS=0000003109
Requesting senior folks who would have done short trips 'alone' to Pattaya to give suggestions, dos and donts.
Is a budget of 800USD(for threedays in Bangkok)+Airfare from Chennai reasonable for this trip in August? Given my age, I would not be able to go more than two pops a day.
Is Escots a better option?
For the past 4 years I have used Mr. Song. I got him trough a travelagent the first time.
Mr. Song is not only very reliable and pleasent; he is also one of the few Thai drivers who anticipates in trafic! He drives a very recent model Toyata Camry, always clean. Most important; I feel safe with him at the wheel; no aggresive driving. Suvarnabhumi-Pattaya last March was 1. 300 Baht (tolway included).
Mr. Song
Phone: +66 (0) 84 00 87 454
E-mail: ultramanathum01@hotmail.comIf you have confidence in a lady driver I can recommend Ms Noi. I used her services already 6 times. Safe driver, new airco car and reliable.
I just send her an email with flight details and time of arrival and she will be there. Rate 1200 bath toll included.
Ms Noi
www.ladytaxidriver.com
email: lady_driver_taxi@hotmail.com
Phone: + 66 (0)86 336 866
AliasDonkey
07-05-08, 12:33
Thanks guys for the info on Taxi selections this will be a big help with my up coming trip in Aug to LOS.
Wayne Carey
07-05-08, 12:40
But you really should have paid the other three girls something for their efforts.
EvilThanks Evil. I suspected as such. I guess I will just do my own thing. In a way so many a-holes around is a blessing in disguise. In my experience I have been rewarded massively by young hot girls when I have shown them a bit of respect.
Apologies if this is the wrong thread to post this query.
Editors, please move it to whereever it is appropriate. Thank you.I am a south-indian planning a three day trip to Pattaya.
Came accross quite a few articles indicating the dislike that Thai women may have for Indians.
This one is a really worrying news.
http://www.pattayadailynews.com/shownews.php?IDNEWS=0000003109
Requesting senior folks who would have done short trips 'alone' to Pattaya to give suggestions, dos and donts.
Is a budget of 800USD(for threedays in Bangkok)+Airfare from Chennai reasonable for this trip in August? Given my age, I would not be able to go more than two pops a day.
Is Escots a better option?
Sadly this is not worrying news, you can remove "Indian and insert any other race/nationality, it happens and has happened (see below) to many people who let their guard down in Pattaya. Have fun in Pattaya but use good judgment, as you would if you visited any other country and you will be fine despite your age.
http://www.pattayaone.net/news_09_06_51_2.html
http://www.pattayaone.net/news_17_11_50_2.htm
Great report Bumholes1, but I couldn't do that milk thing. From when I was a child, I've hated the taste, smell and even the look of milk. I would rather have a girl shit on me as happened on one occasion while fucking her ass, than have a girl start lactating on me. It is a definate deal breaker for me.
BB
I pass on the milking AND the shitting, thank you very much :)
Lemon Tree
07-05-08, 19:37
Don't pick up a girl from the street or the beach road if you scare about your health and your life. Go into a soapie. There you will find a good collection of beautiful girls. That places are safe and clean and the girls are too. I is a little bit more expensive, but worth. A budget of 800 $ should allow you that pleasure.
Enjoy your time
Lemon Tree
Member #2041
07-05-08, 22:12
I'm not a big fan of milk, but I definitely prefer it to someone's shit.
Thanks Run and Lemon Tree.
Yes as a first timer - I am planning to go for incalls only. No pick-up.
Planning to stay at LK Metropole.
Visit(s) to Hellclub is definitely on my list.
Have been "RTFF-ing" about Soapie massage parlors - not finsihed yet.
Given the bad-precedence we have from fellow Indian mongers, I do not want to be one more in the list with my clumsyness-interoreted-as-stingyness.
Can senior folks kindly suggest dos and don'ts as far as tipping the girl goes.
Is 500TBH tip considered ok for ST (equiavelent INR is accepted happily in south-india), be it in Hell Club or in Soapie parlors?
Thanks Again!
Milky tits really turn me on, but you can keep your [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and shit
Sadly this is not worrying news, you can remove "Indian and insert any other race/nationality, it happens and has happened (see below) to many people who let their guard down in Pattaya. Have fun in Pattaya but use good judgment, as you would if you visited any other country and you will be fine despite your age.
http://www.pattayaone.net/news_09_06_51_2.html
http://www.pattayaone.net/news_17_11_50_2.htm
What is really sad here is that somehow the photographer for the news rags always shows up before the medical personnel. It almost looks like they arranged the bag of chips and bottle of water on that bed side chair.
Your best protection from any drugging is to NEVER drink anything that could be tampered with, finish your beer at a bar or take it into the bathroom with you for example.
RG.
Is 500TBH tip considered ok for ST (equiavelent INR is accepted happily in south-india), be it in Hell Club or in Soapie parlors?
Of course the Hell Club and Soapies are very overpriced, but in most of Pattaya 500 baht is the price for the entire short time. No need to tip, particularly in those overpriced joints - you're already paying way more than it is worth.
Of course the Hell Club and Soapies are very overpriced, but in most of Pattaya 500 baht is the price for the entire short time. No need to tip, particularly in those overpriced joints - you're already paying way more than it is worth.
Have you ever been to the Hell Club Opebo? Probably not as they insist upon safe sex. I went there twice, one for a 3some and once for a 4some. How the fuck you can say it is overpriced is beyond me.
I've had numerous BGs and gogos, and none match up to the enthusiasm and skill of girls at the Hell Club. Of the 3600, the girls get 1000 each. Now that's for 90 minutes of pure non-stop sex. Most gogos charge 1500ST for a single pop, and a starfish experience is pretty much guaranteed. For the work those girls put in on their customers, they must be the best deal in the whole of Thailand. The rest of the money goes to a beautifully clean, comfortable environment, with mirrors everywhere, and a management team that gives a fuck, and where aftercare is as important as the customer's sexual experience.
To Var Blr , 3600 for the Hell Club. I gave the girls the remainder of the money between them, that's 200 each as a tip. The girls are quite well paid there, but they work hard for their money, and they really appreciate anything you give them, maybe a LD afterwards as well.
I would urge you to go to Hell and speak with the management. You'll see some of the girls outside, the rest linger around. 500 st are ok in Pattaya, though if you are somewhere like Soi 6, you will pay 300 for the room as well, and usually, as fast as you unload, the game is over, so that's 800 bhat for anywhere between 5 minutes and 30 minutes of sex in a stinking hot room, as the aircons are turned off after each visit.
Do yourself a favour, put aside 4K, which including tips will get you the most memorable 90 minutes of you life, ever. But beware, after sex with Hell Club girls, the rest is pretty boring.
Petemcc
Have you ever been to the Hell Club Opebo? Now that's for 90 minutes of pure non-stop sex. Most gogos charge 1500ST for a single pop, and a starfish experience is pretty much guaranteed.
To Var Blr , 3600 for the Hell Club. I gave the girls the remainder of the money between them, that's 200 each as a tip.
500 st are ok in Pattaya, though if you are somewhere like Soi 6, you will pay 300 for the room as well, and usually, as fast as you unload, the game is over, so that's 800 bhat for anywhere between 5 minutes and 30 minutes of sex in a stinking hot room....
I was in Eden in Bangkok. It's the same 'Konzept'. I agree, when you choose good Girls, it's sooo hot.
About Beach Road for 500B.. You can find very nice Girls gfs and they stay at least 1 Hour, if you are nice to them and if the 'chemistry' is o. K.
They will come in your really nice Room if you have the Hotel near there.
So, it's not hardcore like HellClub or Eden, but you can have great Sex too.
M P Lurker
07-06-08, 10:12
Most gogos charge 1500ST for a single pop, and a starfish experience is pretty much guaranteed.
Don't let reality interfere with the story ;)
Most of us experience a starfish girl rarely :)
Thanks Pete for the info on tips and infact reading your blow-by-blow account of Hell Club was like being there. Excellent report.
By the way, whats a starfish: is this term used to refer to a lady with too many birth marks? or some other unpleasant stuff down there?
ThaiLearner
07-06-08, 11:21
Don't let reality interfere with the story ;)
Most of us experience a starfish girl rarely :)
From my own experience about 75% of the girls I have had from GO GO are starfish but the other 25% I had were far from it. For bar girls it is probably about 5% are starfish.
100% of Hell Club girls I have been with have gone far and beyond the call of duty.
RetiredForever
07-07-08, 03:08
Bored working on my Thai. Thought I would post a couple of simple words for those interested. Have a previous post from last year if interested in a longer list. If you can not find send me a PM and will forward when I get a chance.
Picked out some of the simpler words to learn. By the way no trip is complete unless you visit Hell Club, Lolitta's, Angel Witch.
When you speak Thai if you're a man, you should end the sentence with the word khrab and kha for woman. You should say it after sawatdee (Greeting / Hello, Hi) and kharb koon (Thank you). Sometimes we use khrab and kha for "yes".
Thai people will also break the word up for example "smile". We will say it as "sa-mile", "sport" will become "sa-port", "summer" will become "sum-mer" and in this case Thai people will make the last part louder
"dai" for yes or "mai dai" for no.
Can you help me please? (chuay dai mai)
Can you speak English? (poot pa sa ang grit dai mai)
A little. (nit noi)
Do you understand? (khao jai mai)
I don't understand. (mai khao jai) If you understand just say "kao jai".
Say again please. (poot eek krang)
Hello/Goodbye (sawat-dee) Goodbye (la-gon)
See you again (lao jer gun) good luck (chok dee)
How are you? (sabai dee mai)
I am fine. (sabai dee)
What is your name? (khun chue arai)
Nice to know you too (chen gun)
"mai ben rai" means "it's ok". For example when someone tries to give you something but you don't want it or someone says thanks to you, you say mai ben rai.
"khor thot" means "sorry". You will say it when you want to interrupt someone, when you want to pass someone or when you do something wrong.
"sia jai" means "sorry" too. But in this case it means different thing. Like if someone died or got hurt, you say "phom/di-chan sia jai" which means "I am sorry".
I don't believe you (mai chue)
How much is this? (ra ka thao rai)
Can you help me? (chuay dai mai)
Ice. (nam-khang) Water. (nam-blao) Singha Beer. (beer sing)
I love you. (pom ruk koon)
I miss you. (pom kit teung koon)
I am single. (pom sot)
You are very beautiful. (koon suay mak)
Can I kiss you? (joop dai mai)
Have a nice dream. (fun dee na)
You are my girlfriend. (koon ben fan pom)
Of the 3600, the girls get 1000 each. Now that's for 90 minutes of pure non-stop sex.
Sorry maybe you mentioned this in a previous post (if so, sorry I missed it), but how much is it PER GIRL at Hell Club? And for what duration are we talking -- is it 1-hr, or overnight or hr and a half, or what. You keep mentioning 3600 but I'm not clear on whether that is for a single girl or a twosome or threesome or what, or whether it's for on-the-premises or takeout including barfine, etc.
I agree that it's fine to pay more for something you think is better than what's on offer elsewhere. Some guys are content with what some of us are not content with, and so they think it's a waste of money to pay more. To each his own, I say. We all have our own distinct tastes.
Of course the Hell Club and Soapies are very overpriced, but in most of Pattaya 500 baht is the price for the entire short time. No need to tip, particularly in those overpriced joints - you're already paying way more than it is worth.
Looks matter a lot to some of us, and I would have to say I'm very skeptical I could manage to realistically find one that matches my standards for 500 baht. I could be wrong. But in any case, I challenge you to post a photo of what one of these 500 baht girls looks like, and we'll see. If the girl is cute enough, I'll stand corrected.
Sorry maybe you mentioned this in a previous post (if so, sorry I missed it), but how much is it PER GIRL at Hell Club? And for what duration are we talking -- is it 1-hr, or overnight or hr and a half, or what. You keep mentioning 3600 but I'm not clear on whether that is for a single girl or a twosome or threesome or what, or whether it's for on-the-premises or takeout including barfine, etc.
http://www.thehellclub.com/index.php
100% of Hell Club girls I have been with have gone far and beyond the call of duty.
I agree, in my limited experience at Hell Club. Quality performance. I had to ask them to stop having sex with me as I just couldn't do anymore (and I'm not THAT old yet)
http://www.thehellclub.com/index.php
OK so I'm looking at it, and it seems to say that you take TWO girls for that 3600, but no option to have only one girl for less? .... this from their site:
* Your choice of 2 or more beautiful hostesses.
* 90 minutes of pampering, and you're the director and the star of everything that happens.
* All enjoyed in our beautifully appointed surroundings.
* The fantasies of a lifetime fulfilled in an hour and a half.
* All this for an all inclusive price of a mere 3600 Thai Baht. (additional Angels are 1800 Thai Baht each)
Your enjoyment of our staff's ability to please is guaranteed.
hate to tell you this retired, but the tone makes a BIG difference in some of those expressions. For instance - "fun dee" if pronounced as it is written in pa-sa angrit (English) would be "good teeth". To make it "pleasant dreams" you would need to say "fun" with a rising tone. that's the problem with transliterations - they don't capture TONE
mai (rising tone) - "isn't that so?"
mai (high tone) - "wood"
mai (neutral tone) - "silk"
mai (falling tone) - "no"
mai (low tone) - "new"
(there are more meanings to some of the tones as well depending on context - just as with English "two, to, too" - all pronounced the same with nowhere the same meaning). Most of the time khon Thai will stop, think about what you said, chuckle and then answer the question.
Personal pronouns I, me and YOU are RARELY used (they are "understood in the conversation)
:)
By the way, whats a starfish: is this term used to refer to a lady with too many birth marks? or some other unpleasant stuff down there?
Starfish refers to any lady who just lays there doing nothing while you do all the work. Like the starfish you find on the beaches...
Have you ever been to the Hell Club Opebo? Probably not as they insist upon safe sex.
I haven't been, but I used to go to Eden back in the day (I often got bb, but they're strict nowadays). Actually I quite liked the place, but as I've been in country longer the girls seem less attractive than what I pick up out of the freelancer pool. Is the lineup better in Pattaya?
3,600 seemed high when I first started coming to Thailand a few years ago, and it is still just a bit expensive for Pattaya, but the same price in Bangkok has slowly but surely become a relative bargain.
Looks matter a lot to some of us, and I would have to say I'm very skeptical I could manage to realistically find one that matches my standards for 500 baht. I could be wrong. But in any case, I challenge you to post a photo of what one of these 500 baht girls looks like, and we'll see. If the girl is cute enough, I'll stand corrected.
Oh I never take photos. Seems a waste of time. But while your assumptions are generally true, the exception is the whole point of my love of freelancers - you never know what you can find.
.......the exception is the whole point of my love of freelancers - you never know what you can find.
Couldn't agree more. There are some wonderful freelancers out there, not greedy and prepared to give you a most rewarding service for a reasonable price. Just look at my report of a couple of days ago -300bt a head - no bars, bosses and other overheads to pay for to pay for; the girls named their price and I can honestly say that both the anal girl and milky tit girl really enjoyed their time with me, and showed their appreciation with their warmth, cuddles and kisses.
Evil Penivel
07-08-08, 00:52
Sorry maybe you mentioned this in a previous post (if so, sorry I missed it), but how much is it PER GIRL at Hell Club? And for what duration are we talking -- is it 1-hr, or overnight or hr and a half, or what.
There is no one-lady option for the inhouse sessions at the Hell Club. It is 3,600 baht for 90 minutes with two ladies, as many pops as you can manage. That's an all-in fee, nothing else is required, no lady drinks, rooms fees, etc., but many punters choose to tip the girls 200 baht each. That's entirely up to you.
You can take a single lady overnight (10 pm to 6 am at the earliest, most stay later that that) for an all-in fee of 3,000 baht. Again, no extra costs and she'll perform to the best of her ability. Guaranteed.
When the Hell Club opened at the beginning of 2007, the menu included a one-lady option, but it was removed after only a few weeks. The vast majority of customers were only interested in multiple-lady inhouse sessions. The multiple-lady sessions are the main attraction of the Hell Club. If you want short time with a single lady, there are dozens of options in Pattaya. But for a multiple-lady session of the quality you receive at Hell, it's unique.
Of course, of anyone would like to suggest an establishment which you feel is equal to the Hell Club in terms of multiple-lady sessions, I'm happy to do a point-by-point comparison.
There are many reports on the Hell Club, including pictures of the girls, on ISG. Just do a quick search for "Hell Club."
Evil
Oh I never take photos. Seems a waste of time. But while your assumptions are generally true, the exception is the whole point of my love of freelancers - you never know what you can find.
I can understand that -- and makes me think of one thing that I should have mentioned, that didn't occur to me before -- one other major qualification that I (and probably lots of others too) would have -- which is that I would only ever be visiting for a few days at a time. So for me, cutting to the chase on any given evening, knowing time is precious, is a top priority. I can't spend a likely fruitless 45 minutes or more wandering down a beach road or amongst the hundreds of beer bars when I know there's much less chance I'll find what I'm after there, and much more likely I'll spot it in one of the go-gos, discos, etc. If I lived there, or was there for weeks, then yeah ok, I would be checking out those FL scenes. The way it would play out is that after spending a good amount of money to finally get to Pattaya, then heading out for the evening, if I go to spots like those and hunt for awhile, not finding anything that seems special in all that time (which is probable), by then it's late in the evening and I know that the pickings out in the higher end spots are much thinner by now. Much higher chance of having a disappointing night out, and even heading home alone rather than 'settle' on something that doesn't match expectations. Maybe that's extreme, but it's the thought that's always there in the back of the head as one goes out on the prowl.
again, no extra costs and she'll perform to the best of her ability. guaranteed.
hm. sounds ok. i wish their website gave us a peek at the selection of girls, the way most of the sites for gogos and massage places do.
Epicurien2
07-08-08, 07:17
.....You can take a single lady overnight (10 pm to 6 am at the earliest, most stay later that that) for an all-in fee of 3,000 baht. Again, no extra costs and she'll perform to the best of her ability. Guaranteed.....Is this possible in the eden club Bangkok?
Due to the higher prices of Bangkok p4p it would be a good bargain for guaranteed performance!
hm. sounds ok. i wish their website gave us a peek at the selection of girls, the way most of the sites for gogos and massage places do.
trust me, when you get there it won't matter a flying fuck what pictures you ever saw posted, the sexual chemistry will lead you to the first girl, and the rest will follow, your choice or hers. you will not be disappointed. there's tall, small, soft, hard, so sexy you will blow in 10 seconds, and so sensual that you will try to last forever. of course it's about attraction, but seriously, trust me, when these girls start kissing you and working on you, your only thoughts on choice will be that you made the best one.
girls come and go. why get your hopes up to shag one girl? i can tell you that there is a girl there, miss m, does anal, maybe a 6/10 in looks, but she is so soft and sweet that she will make you think sex can get no better.
these girls are good, fucking good, so don't even try to pick them based upon pre-conceived notions.
basically, just go there and do it!
This is perhabs off topic but I'm planning my vacation now and I really like to go to experience the scene in Pattay. However I also want to relax and get some sun. Can anyone tell me if it's constant rain this time (July) in Pattaya or just the occasional rain storm? Do you get a nice sunny weather to play some golf in between?
Milken
RetiredForever
07-09-08, 00:03
hate to tell you this retired, but the tone makes a BIG difference in some of those expressions. For instance - "fun dee" if pronounced as it is written in pa-sa angrit (English) would be "good teeth". To make it "pleasant dreams" you would need to say "fun" with a rising tone. that's the problem with transliterations - they don't capture TONE
mai (rising tone) - "isn't that so?"
mai (high tone) - "wood"
mai (neutral tone) - "silk"
mai (falling tone) - "no"
mai (low tone) - "new"
(there are more meanings to some of the tones as well depending on context - just as with English "two, to, too" - all pronounced the same with nowhere the same meaning). Most of the time khon Thai will stop, think about what you said, chuckle and then answer the question.
Personal pronouns I, me and YOU are RARELY used (they are "understood in the conversation)
:)
You are entriely correct. A very good site to go to to hear the different tonal sounds is http://www.learningthai.com/speak_thai.html. Good place for beginner to start basic skills. The main reason I have suggested learning a few of words of Thai, in this and previous postings, is for a starting point to at least have something to do. I am still a beginner and do not know if I will ever get the language. Plan on spending 3 months in Pattaya end of year (my 5th trip). I have seen more guys just sitting with a lady with blank looks on their faces. The one thing I personally have found at my age (and 4 marriages) is show a little interest in the lady and she will warm up. Women like nothing more than being the center of attention no matter what the country. It is all about them in their eyes. This is why when you read a lot of the tales the members talk about after the deed the girl jumped up and leave. So even if you are not perfect it can be good for a few laughs. Just my opinion.
RetiredForever
07-09-08, 00:09
Since there seems to be a lot of posts about getting a single girl from Hell Club thought I would contribute this info. During my last visit I bar fined a girl from Lollita's. Just passing on the cost. Bar fine 1800B and girl 3000B LT. A lot of money I know but just in the mood that night.
Terry Terrier
07-09-08, 00:25
I can understand that -- and makes me think of one thing that I should have mentioned, that didn't occur to me before -- one other major qualification that I (and probably lots of others too) would have -- which is that I would only ever be visiting for a few days at a time. So for me, cutting to the chase on any given evening, knowing time is precious, is a top priority. I can't spend a likely fruitless 45 minutes or more wandering down a beach road or amongst the hundreds of beer bars when I know there's much less chance I'll find what I'm after there, and much more likely I'll spot it in one of the go-gos, discos, etc. If I lived there, or was there for weeks, then yeah ok, I would be checking out those FL scenes. The way it would play out is that after spending a good amount of money to finally get to Pattaya, then heading out for the evening, if I go to spots like those and hunt for awhile, not finding anything that seems special in all that time (which is probable), by then it's late in the evening and I know that the pickings out in the higher end spots are much thinner by now. Much higher chance of having a disappointing night out, and even heading home alone rather than 'settle' on something that doesn't match expectations. Maybe that's extreme, but it's the thought that's always there in the back of the head as one goes out on the prowl.
I've struggled in Bangkok late at night sometimes to find a girl to my taste, but it's soooo easy to get around the central fleshpots of Patts, and IME there are always far more girls than punters, and always plenty of late-nite options for us customers :).
AliasDonkey
07-09-08, 07:29
Thanks for the useful info about hell club will try it out and see how it goes.
LittleBigMan
07-09-08, 10:32
Milken,
If my memory serves me this month ( July ), it has mostly rained at night heavy downpour with some lighting and then it stops. This I think has happened 3 times so far this month. Today, Thursday it rained in the morning around 6:45am for about a half hour and then stopped. It is overcasted not raining during the day.
Hope that helps for me it is somewhat of a relief since it has been hot the last few months.
LBM
I've struggled in Bangkok late at night sometimes to find a girl to my taste, but it's soooo easy to get around the central fleshpots of Patts, and IME there are always far more girls than punters, and always plenty of late-nite options for us customers :).
Maybe you're right. My last time in Pattaya a few yrs back, I have to admit I ended up alone for the night. It's possible I just didn't know the right spots to hit.
Girls come and go. Why get your hopes up to shag one girl?
No, it's not that. I'm not trying to find one girl to get my hopes up over, just trying to get a general sense of how their girls look. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you're right about their talents, it's just that I'm curious to get a glimpse first.
Evil Penivel
07-09-08, 22:31
Is this possible in the eden club Bangkok?
Due to the higher prices of Bangkok p4p it would be a good bargain for guaranteed performance!
Yes, overnight takeaway has always been an option at Eden in BKK. The same hours apply (10 p.m. to at least 6 a.m.). The cost is a flat 3,000 baht, with as many pops as you can manage. If you want them to, most ladies are happy to stay later than 6.00 a.m., but that depends on how many hours they have been able to sleep, how comfortable your hotel room is and whether they have anything to do that morning. Remember, you can sleep the rest of the day, but she has to be back at work by 1.00 p.m.
Considering bar fines are 600 baht and even ordinary gogo girls are asking a minimum of 2,000 baht for one-pop S/T, an Eden takeaway is looking more and more like a bargain. You can always play free-lancer roulette in Nana Car Park, on the street or in an after-hours pick-up joint, but that involves staying out until the wee hours of the morning. Between 1.00 a.m. and 2.00 a.m., I rather be f*cking than than f*cking around.
Here's some breaking news. On the official Eden forum, Marc (edenpapa) was soliciting opinions about offering one-lady inhouse sessions at Eden. Nothing definite, he was just asking the regulars for their opinions and trying to determine if there was any demand for this option.
I'll keep everyone posted.
Evil
Cheap Meat
07-10-08, 12:30
I don't pay ANYTHING to the girls and I'm saving FUCK-LOADS of money! Fact is guys, 9 times out of 10 you can get away without paying! A LOT of these bargirls are TOTAL pushovers. It's VERY EASY to take advantage of them! If you pay, up to you. But you can save a LOT of money by scaming the girls. IN FACT, these bargirls are SO DAMN EASY to scam that I'm setting up shop permanently in Pattaya so I can lure girls from Bangkok and Pattaya and fuck them for FREE! Hundreds of them!
AliasDonkey
07-11-08, 08:47
I have a question about the baht bus..
I was staying at the LK Metro two years ago and would walk to second road to catch the bus to walking street. At the top of the route past soi 2 heading north the driver pull over and basically give the impression that we have to get off!! WTF. I thought they just kept going around and around till you get off. Any answer to whats going on here?
So to get to walking street we had to basically walk to second road then cross it to mikes swap meet LOL and end up on beach road where we would go down to walking street. LOL B@$t@rd$
Also does the baht bus or any bus go up north to Heaven complex and or south to Jomtien beach?
Thanks …. This info should help out any newbie reading this forum LOL… Including me….
Pointy Stick
07-11-08, 10:03
Also does the baht bus or any bus go up north to Heaven complex and or south to Jomtien beach?
Thanks …. This info should help out any newbie reading this forum LOL… Including me….
From what I have observed there appears to be two seperate circuts the buses follow. One of which goes around pattaya and the other goes from pattaya to jomtien. To get to Jomtien you need to jump off or get to where they are park-up in front of some wrought iron fence and take another bus to Jomtien. Cost 20 bht.
Spent 3 days in pattaya recently. Only managed one session at the hell club since I was more interested in drinking than mongering. The lineup there did not seem as good as eden in bkk with only 4 girls on the anal side and like 12 two holers. Disappointing scene but the rooms are much better than eden.
I'm sure you all know the details but my one disappointment was that I forgot about trying to dp the anal girl with the other girl wearing a strap on. next time.
As per my previous post I decided to try cialis. 200 bht from a all night pharmacy and most likely a rip. I didn't detect any change in my performance or longevity so it most likely a harmless fake or a less likely possibility is that I am such a fucking stud that it would have no effect anyway.
Numerous girls available on the beach but I don't like picking up in front of the dozens of schoolkids who appeared to be searching for shellfish on their lunchbreaks.
Peaceout
Lemon Tree
07-11-08, 10:07
The busses going around Second Road and Beach Road turn left into Soi 2 and then back to Beach Road.
Your bus was the one, who goes to Naklua. And when the driver knew that you wanted to go to Walking Street, he was right when he stopped at Soi 2.
I suppose, he understood where you want to go to. But he was not able to explain you where his route goes, because most of the drivers don’t speak foreign languages.
But it is not necessary to walk the whole way to Beach Road. Stop the next bus that passes the Soi 2 and he will bring you to Walking Street.
Regards
Lemon Tree
Sadly this is not worrying news, you can remove "Indian and insert any other race/nationality, it happens and has happened (see below) to many people who let their guard down in Pattaya. Have fun in Pattaya but use good judgment, as you would if you visited any other country and you will be fine despite your age.
http://www.pattayaone.net/news_09_06_51_2.html
http://www.pattayaone.net/news_17_11_50_2.htmLook this is my opinion on Indians and the Thai girls who dislike them. I am from a surrounding country and look Indian. Girls often refuse me till I tell I am not Indian. This is because Indians are known in Thailand to be cheap, as somebody who will negotiate the hell out of them and to be rude. I have nothing against Indians ,but they need to stop being cheap and that is it. You will see girls will take care of you when you are not being cheap. Unfortunately the vast majority of Indian tourists happen to be lousy tippers and in plain words cheap. You have to change your attitudes for the girls to change theirs. This particular story is very unfortunate and no one shall have to go through this. I think thie hooker in this case just wanted to rob someone and its not because he is Indian. I was just talking about the general situation
Hi,
I couldn't find any reports about this place. A nice newish bar with Coyote dancers and lots of cute hostesses.
Bar fine is 600 for the hostesses and 1000 for the Coyotes. ST with hostesses in (they have rooms upstairs) or out is 1500.
Corner of Soi Buo-kaow and the Soi that has the Hell Club (Soi Diana). Some very fine ladies there, and a change from some of the grotty Go-Gos.
They also rent out long and short stay rooms upstairs, but I didn't get a chance to have a look at them.
http://www.club-blu-pattaya.com/modules/wfchannel/
AliasDonkey
07-17-08, 10:12
Hi,
I couldn't find any reports about this place. A nice newish bar with Coyote dancers and lots of cute hostesses.
Bar fine is 600 for the hostesses and 1000 for the Coyotes. ST with hostesses in (they have rooms upstairs) or out is 1500.
Corner of Soi Buo-kaow and the Soi that has the Hell Club (Soi Diana). Some very fine ladies there, and a change from some of the grotty Go-Gos.
They also rent out long and short stay rooms upstairs, but I didn't get a chance to have a look at them.
http://www.club-blu-pattaya.com/modules/wfchannel/
Thanks for the info i'll try to check this place out in sept if possible.
I found an impressive amount of info about Pattaya at this site, most of it pretty accurate. I haven't had a chance to check out if it has good info on other cities yet...
http://wikitravel.org/en/Pattaya
As I mentioned earlier I am planning 5 months in Pattaya this winter and am looking for a suitable 1 bedroom or Studio in Soi Dianna/Backow / Lk Metro area. Haven't had any luck but see Dianna Group has a couple of places on Bakow, anyone ever stayed there? Any reports and suggestions appreciated!
Cactus J
Bill Miami
07-20-08, 02:35
As I mentioned earlier I am planning 5 months in Pattaya this winter and am looking for a suitable 1 bedroom or Studio in Soi Dianna/Backow / Lk Metro area. Haven't had any luck but see Dianna Group has a couple of places on Bakow, anyone ever stayed there? Any reports and suggestions appreciated!
Thanks Gents! I am just an old fart with golf clubs to carry each day and that is the reason for elevator need above 1st floor. I have stayed at the Swasadee Pattaya and it was very noisy with crazy drunk Russians. Last year I stayed at Charlie Place which was good but best rate I got was 800b.
I would certainly consider a decient place at Soi 10 and 2nd Road, just reasonably close to Soi Dianna as that is where I plan to play most of my golf from. Your help is really appreciated!
I am ging to be in Pattaya mid November 08 till mid April 09 and need a 1 bedroom or large Studio in the area, preferably of Soi Dianna. If it is a walkup first floor would be OK but anything higher and I would need an elevator. Clean and serviced, not noisy. I would pay 9000 b month. Is that reasonable for a 5 month contract? I would greatly appreciate your comments and suggestions! Many Thanks!
Cactu J
Cactus J
I almost answered your last few post but I was too lazy and figured somebody else would give you some help, but since nobody did, I will.
First you are coming at the high season and looking for a short term rental, therefore anyplace you are able to find that has not been rented far in advance by you will be a dump. Second you can forget about a one bedroom for 9,000 a month, it is not going to happen. And since you’re are coming in the high season and looking for a short term rental prices at that time of the year increase anywhere from a minimum of 25% to 100%.
The location you mentioned does not have very many accommodations and most of them are not in very good condition and you will be paying a premium price due to its location within the city of Pattaya.
If I were you I would look in Jomtien, which is just a ten minute ride by Baht bus into Pattaya. There are 1,000’s of more condos for rent there and the possibility of finding something nice is much greater. A nice studio condo at that time of year will run you around 15,000 a month plus electric and water fees. You can find lower priced condos which will not be in such good shape.
Since you mentioned you are a golfer staying in Jomtien is no problem. Most, if not all of the bars and other establishments that offer golf outings will pick you up right at your condo if you desire. There are also quite a few bars in Jomtien that offer the same golf outings as the bar you listing in your post that are only a few minutes away from any condo in Jomtein.
The following is a web site that lists virtually every real estate agency in Pattaya and Jomtien and just look for their link “Condos for rent.” There you will find an endless supply of condos you can rent, the pictures of the condos and the prices they are asking for. The agencies all have email address and you can make arrangements for your rental before you leave home and they will have somebody meet you at the condo to check you into the condo the day you arrive. I hope this helps.
The link is below.
http://www.jomtien-pattaya-real-estate.com/
Thanks Bill,
Very helpful! I will persue your suggestion.
Cactus J
Rambis Youth
07-21-08, 15:20
No offence Pete but you could have just descibed any of 10,000 girls in Pattaya. Remember the 3 F's - Find her, fuck her and forget her. Eden / HC girls I'm sure are very nice (I've been to Eden Club a few times) but I think they're at the more experienced end of Thai hookers.
No offence Pete but you could have just descibed any of 10,000 girls in Pattaya. Remember the 3 F's - Find her, fuck her and forget her. Eden / HC girls I'm sure are very nice (I've been to Eden Club a few times) but I think they're at the more experienced end of Thai hookers.
I guess we have all been sucked in at one time or another by the type that Pete describes, its just a question of how long and how much we get taken for before we catch on to the pretence. Well written story Pete, and good that you had the guts to write it all down....... hope it saves at least one guy from making the same mistake....... all hail to the 3 F's !
(snip) In between I have told my wife I love Tang, etc, so she now wants a divorce. Excellent, my wife is leaving me, Tang is back being a *****, and I am where?
Off the hook and free to play in Thailand to your heart's content! Of course, all you'll have to do is write a big check to make this happen!
Just don't mess things up and get a Thai "girlfriend!"
Chap,
It sounds like you've been through the wars, my sympathies.
I did something similar, but didn't fuck up a marriage or anything - had her on the phone to my parents, sent her a couple of thousand US etc etc.
The undying love went on, speak to mother on phone etc, I wait for you in Issan, you come and teach at school we get married, all that shit, and how she hated going with customers, how she cried each time
I would strongly urge you (and everyone else) to read Stephen Leather's free ebook 'Private Dancer' (it is also published in bound form, but I just printed out the pdf at work and popped it in a folder). It is an entertaining read, but, more importantly, it drilled into me the (almost) inevitability of outcomes like this one.
A quick google for "stephen leather private dancer free ebook" found me:
http://www.conanstevens.com/temp/private-dancer.pdf
Whoever reads it, I'd be curious to know what you think...
gee Pete - you ever heard that you can take the girl out of the bar but you CAN'T TAKE THE BAR OUT OF THE GIRL??
Worse yet - From HELL, of course ;)
READ Private Dancer - it may be FICTION, but it's TRUE fiction (just that you didn't get snuffed in the process)
Old Thai Hand
07-22-08, 03:20
Pete
What were you thinking? Involvement with any P4P girl is a recipe for disaster. Your actions were just plain stupid.
If you want a Thai girlfriend, the only answer is: a decent girl from a decent family, not some Pattaya ho.
Jesus, Pete. What on earth were you thinking??
There really are no adequate words to comment.
gee Pete - you ever heard that you can take the girl out of the bar but you CAN'T TAKE THE BAR OUT OF THE GIRL??
Worse yet - From HELL, of course ;)
READ Private Dancer - it may be FICTION, but it's TRUE fiction (just that you didn't get snuffed in the process)Private Dancer, by Stephen Leather (Borders Books &15.95)
A great read concerning Bargirls and will get you thinking.
Jesus, Pete. What on earth were you thinking??
There really are no adequate words to comment.
Come on ... He only spent 77000 baht and he had a wonderful time -- a 2 week holiday he will never forget! :D
Mr Enforcer
07-22-08, 04:07
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I can't believe people come here for advise. I have not been to Hell Club but I did check out Eden about six years ago and frankly the girls are not much better then what you find on the beach. Granted they do the lesbo thing, and that is fun but you can't walk three blocks in Pattaya without girls offering to go with you short time for 300 baht.
Terry Terrier
07-22-08, 05:01
Pete,
What on earth were you thinking? If a middle aged guy like you interacts with younger, good looking women on holiday, he has to keep his wits about him big time. In Pattaya, of all places, one has to keep his wits about him so much more and move things along very slowly.
The 'take the bar out of the girl' cliches that you read on here and other forums are only as relevant as the situations/relationships that the participants create. If you are looking for a partner, it's all about finding a sane girl. And you are at least as likely to find one working bar who has been left high and dry by her immature Thai hubby as you are likely to find one from an affluent background who also feels the need to look outside her culture for a partner. Any farang with long-time experience of Thailand will tell you about horror stories they have first/second/third hand experience of with with girls from all types of backgrounds from this place. You have to take your time, and not rush into things. That means giving any girl you feel you may have a future with time to prove herself or to self-destruct.
I have seen too many guys rush into relationships with younger Thai women from all sorts of backgrounds only for things to turn very ugly when things have progressed too far and too quickly to get out cheaply.
Slowly, slowly.
I am thinking about visiting this place for the first time next year around march/april and just how much you need to have a reasonably good time here for about seven days, including girls, food, lodging etc. Is there particular month best for mongering etc.
Thanks.
Cool Jaybabe
07-22-08, 06:08
Here is a newbie question. what's best way to carry Money in Pattaya.
Are ATM machines everywhere where I can withdraw as needed or travelers checks or caarying in foreign currency recommeded.
Pls comment.
Jay
Thanks guys for all your comments, even the negative ones, but I deserved it!
I have deleted the post and pics because at the end of the day it's my fault, not hers.
Cheers
Pete
Pete,
Lets just hope that she doesn't get up the duff and start trying to get DNA confirmation and then try to extract extra cash. V. dodgy situation. There but for the grace of god . . .
Expatcat
LittleBigMan
07-22-08, 09:09
Pete,
Count your lucky stars! You got off lucky! We all allow the little head to do too much of the leading sometimes that get us all in trouble from time to time. The only thing that really counts now is did you learn anything?
LBM
... I have deleted the post and pics because at the end of the day it's my fault, not hers...
I think you ought to resurrect it, Pete. If you do, I’ll post it in the Reports of Distinction thread where it belongs. It should serve as a lesson to all unwary mongers who visit the Land of Smiles.
Pete,
Nothing to worry about. You had a ton of fun. There are those of us who do things we later determine that maybe we would have done differently. And everyone else who just won't admit it.
I remember the time I...
Rubber Nursey
07-22-08, 16:49
http://www.conanstevens.com/temp/private-dancer.pdf Whoever reads it, I'd be curious to know what you think...
Blunderer: thanks so much for that link. I downloaded the pdf this morning and once I started reading, I couldn't stop until I'd finished it. Brilliant stuff. Loved it. x
Rubber Nursey
07-22-08, 16:53
*slaps Pete upside the head on my way out*
Montecristo
07-22-08, 18:13
Here is a newbie question. what's best way to carry Money in Pattaya.
Are ATM machines everywhere where I can withdraw as needed or travelers checks or caarying in foreign currency recommeded.
Pls comment.
Jay
A truly newbie question, there are a zillion ATM machines, we are in 2008 !
I am thinking about visiting this place for the first time next year around march/april and just how much you need to have a reasonably good time here for about seven days, including girls, food, lodging etc. Is there particular month best for mongering etc.
Thanks.
It all depends on your style of living. eg 5* hotac, expensive restaurants etc
For the average monger I believe 5.000 to 7.000 Baht/day will cover everything for a week stay.
Hotac 1.500
Food 1.000
Girl 2.000
Drinks 1.000
Other 500
Total 6.000
For longer stays the average could be lower
Hope that it helps
JohnnieBravo
07-23-08, 02:19
Can anyone recommend a good place for a massage. There are soooo many to choose from here it would be helpful to have the opinion of a more seasoned campaigner in this arena. I would like to try a soapie as well as a more traditional Thai massage..with possibly a happy ending included if possible.
Also, I am interested in seeing a sex show similar to those found in Patpong Bangkok. I went to the Queens Castle II but was hassled soooo much that I really could not appreciated nor watch/enjoy the actual show. Is there anywhere in Pattaya where I could see this type of show while being minimally hassled?
Thanks,
JohnnieBravo
JohnnieBravo
07-23-08, 02:48
Another quick question. It is my understanding that some of the places in Pattaya offering oil massages also will massage other places including the prostate for an additional fee. Does anyone have any info. as to where in Pattaya I might find this service?
Thanks and sorry for two posts in a row.
JohnnieBravo
ATMs are outside virtually EVERY bank and almost all 7-11 as well
Moreover - you can even go to a bank and make an ATM withdrawal with your passport up to the limit of your daily amount. (Mine is $3000 or roughly 100,000B)
Usually oil massage includes a hand job for a minor tip
For the average monger I believe 5.000 to 7.000 Baht/day will cover everything for a week stay.
Hotac 1.500
...
What's a 'Hotac'? This budget is very high-end. I visit Pattaya for a few days on this budget:
Hotel 450-700
Food 500
Girl(s) 500-1,500
Drinks 200
motorbike 150
other 500
Total 2,300 to 3,550 per day
The main difference being whether I take one girl per day or two. Also note - renting a motorbike is one of the best values in Pattaya, as you will reduce your taxi costs more than the 100-200 per day the bike costs, as well as experiencing a hugely increased freedom of movement. Nothing worse than trudging around on foot.
What's a 'Hotac'? This budget is very high-end. I visit Pattaya for a few days on this budget:
Hotel 450-700
Food 500
Girl(s) 500-1,500
Drinks 200
motorbike 150
other 500
Total 2,300 to 3,550 per day
The main difference being whether I take one girl per day or two. Also note - renting a motorbike is one of the best values in Pattaya, as you will reduce your taxi costs more than the 100-200 per day the bike costs, as well as experiencing a hugely increased freedom of movement. Nothing worse than trudging around on foot.
well ! 200 baht/ day for drink !
That's 1 beer and 1 LD day + some water in 7/11..
Dunno how u can do that but that's impossible ..IMO.
well ! 200 baht/ day for drink !
That's 1 beer and 1 LD day + some water in 7/11..
Dunno how u can do that but that's impossible ..IMO.
I don't drink or buy lady drinks. Cokes and the like are usually around 50 baht in bars.
I don't drink or buy lady drinks. Cokes and the like are usually around 50 baht in bars.
So u take girls from bars but u don't even buy her a drink...
no comment !
Pete,
Lets just hope that she doesn't get up the duff and start trying to get DNA confirmation and then try to extract extra cash. V. dodgy situation. There but for the grace of god . . .
Expatcat
Not possible unless she can reverse the vascetomy
What's a 'Hotac'?
HOTel ACcommodation
Used mainly in the travel business.
No need for lady drinks, bar fines or the ridiculous prices bars charge for a bevvy.
There are hundreds of freelancers on the beach road and elsewhere, and in my experience their service is as good as if not better than bar girls. They ask for less, give as much or more and help those who are on a tight budget.
In my report of a couple of weeks back, I stated how I had 4 girls for just 1200bt.truly excellent service and all very happy to come with me. No lady drinks to pay for, although we did have some beer in the room, bought at normal retail prices, which made the experiences all the more enjoyable.
Bars, bar fines and the greedy girls found in most are unnecessary.
I must admit Bumholes that I stray to the bars once in a while. For those of us who knew the Beach Road a few years ago it is hard to be satisfied there now. I'm not sure if it is the police crackdowns or some other force brought to bear but the numbers and quality of girls on the Road are way, way down. There are also hardly any ladyboys compared to before, which also suggests the police are behind the alteration. I don't partake of those 'ladies', but have always found their presence a cheerful sign.
Still, one can find the occasional diamond, which is the whole reason for beachcombing.
Hi,
I couldn't find any reports about this place. A nice newish bar with Coyote dancers and lots of cute hostesses.
Bar fine is 600 for the hostesses and 1000 for the Coyotes. ST with hostesses in (they have rooms upstairs) or out is 1500.
Corner of Soi Buo-kaow and the Soi that has the Hell Club (Soi Diana). Some very fine ladies there, and a change from some of the grotty Go-Gos.
They also rent out long and short stay rooms upstairs, but I didn't get a chance to have a look at them.
http://www.club-blu-pattaya.com/modules/wfchannel/
extremely overpriced! i've been there and the chicks are no better than the freelancers on walking
Those low priced Freelancers/SW could end up costing a whole lot more than any overpriced go-go girl. These stories about Falangs being drugged by Freelancers are reported with some frequency but you have to wonder how many more are not reported. Frugal Mongers take note and be aware of who you are picking up, the 300b short time is not always 300b as you can see in this story below, be safe.
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Italian drugged and robbed by woman in Central Pattaya Apartment.
Police Sergeant Major Ootin, a Tourist Police Detective received a report from Security Guards working at an apartment complex in Central Pattaya that an Italian had just been drugged and robbed of his possessions. Police arrived and went to the victim’s room. Mr. Claudic Ballarini aged 53 from Italy was lying on the bed in a dazed state. He explained that he had met a woman on Pattaya Beach and, for an agreed fee, she accompanied him back to his room. When the pair arrived, the woman offered Mr. Ballarini what appeared to be a wine gum. Moments later, Mr. Ballarini passed out and a security guard noticed that the woman left alone and decided to check the room and found Mr. Ballarini sleeping on the bed. 2,000 Baht in cash, a gold necklace and a gold bracelet were apparently taken by the woman. Tourist Police are now questioning known prostitutes who work on Pattaya Beach and will attempt to locate and arrest the woman in due course.
Superman79
07-25-08, 02:34
Those low priced Freelancers/SW could end up costing a whole lot more than any overpriced go-go girl. These stories about Falangs being drugged by Freelancers are reported with some frequency but you have to wonder how many more are not reported. Frugal Mongers take note and be aware of who you are picking up, the 300b short time is not always 300b as you can see in this story below, be safe.
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Italian drugged and robbed by woman in Central Pattaya Apartment.
[/i]Use common sense/ street smarts and you will never have a problem (ie. never accept any drinks or anything from anyone)
[QUOTE=Run Mann]Those low priced Freelancers/SW could end up costing a whole lot more than any overpriced go-go girl. These stories about Falangs being drugged by Freelancers are reported with some frequency but you have to wonder how many more are not reported. Frugal Mongers take note and be aware of who you are picking up, the 300b short time is not always 300b as you can see in this story below, be safe.
/QUOTE]
You make a valid point, and this is most important especially for 1st time visitors.. However, I am sure that Opebo, like myself is well aware of the hidden dangers, and have no money gold or other possessions with us nor in the room.
Drugging is negligible - hyped up by the media. There are hundreds of freelancers active everyday, many having repeat customers. The odds are minute, and you are far more likely to get hit by a baht bus whilst making your way with the freelancer to your bed.
You know what you are going to pay for the girl, you know how much for the room and a beer or 2, so never carry more money than you need. Split it up between all your pockets. If you are a tourist staying in a reasonable hotel with all your belongings take her to a short time hotel. She will know where, and it will only cost 100/150
In 20+ years, and many hundreds of freelancers, I have NEVER had any sort of problem. 99% of the time they were excellent - just a few starfish, and NO NO's - No I won't smoke. No don't touch my tits. No I won't do doggy - thats about it.
JohnnieBravo
07-25-08, 04:47
I agree with bumholes1. I have been with both bar girls and freelancers and think that I have gotten better performance (on the average) from a freelancer then from a beer bar girl or a go go girl. Been here several days now and have yet to pay a barfine.
Bumholes point is well taken though...one does has to excersize caution and good judgement when being with these girls. After having said that....I hope that my DATY with a freelancer I had earlier will be ok and that I will not bring anything back home with me except my tailor made suits ;-)
Arrived back in Pattaya after a 6 month absence, its good to be reminded all the time that I am so hansome, I am even beginning to believe it myself. I am staying at the Eastiny Place on Soi 8 a hotel I highly regard. It is spotlessly clean, very accomodating, has a nice pool and all for 1100 baht, plus it is in the centre of the action.
Am not into beer bar girls or go go girls and like to explore the freelancer action, even trying the malls, shops and other places for potential targets. On my second day I had a stroll down the beach road and found a pair of girls sitting opposite the Royal Garden Plaza.
Both seemed uniterested in Farang watching and both had their backs to the foot path, looking out towards the beach and sea.
One woman was in her late 30's but the other at a guess was about 18 or 19. I started chatting to them both, but with lustful intent on the young girl. It transpires she was a new arrival from Isaan, couldn't speak very much English (always a good sign in my book) and had joined her sister who was already working in Pattaya and had just split up from her Norwegian boyfriend. (I interpreted this to mean her sister was a WG). I speak Thai so was able to have a reasonable conversation with both and after a few pleasantries I suggested the younger one come with me. She seemed reluctant at first, however we agreed to meet later that evening. I suggested she come to my hotel but she said she would prefer to meet me back at the beach as she did not know her way around Pattaya (another good sign)
Money was not discussed at any point and I left them both feeling a sense of anticipation in my trousers.
Anyway after meeting the girl, having some drinks we retired to the hotel at about 10. I know it was very early but I was tired and feel very horny. Di as her name is was actually 18 with the slimmest cutest body, tight ass and stomach and not one ounce of fat....my ideal.
She seemed very inexperienced and it transpired I was her very first Farang, though she admitted she did have a Thai bf before.
Anyway the sex was ok, but I guess part of the turn on for me was her relative inexperience and young age of 18.
There was little in the way of foreplay or touching from her and she even seemed reluctant to kiss. Anyway it was not of great importance this time due to me feeling like a man who had just come out of prison after 10 years.
In the morning I left her my number, 1000 baht which she seemed happy with and off she went. We agreed to meet later that day, though I thought to myself I will keep her as a reserve just in case I do not meet anything better looking.
Later that day she called. I told her I would see her again on condition she was more responsive and that I expected OWO full kissing and lots of touching. She agreed and so began my second night with this girl.
This time the performance was a 100 times better and she performed OWO hesitatingly at first, but she soon got into the swing of things. I responded with DATY and then plunged inside her making her gasp and groan. She came with gasps and a scream as I did and we both collapsed in a heap on the bed spending the rest of the night cuddling.
I gave her 1000 baht again this morning and bought her breakfast. I felt a bit pissed that she just took the money without so much as a thank you, but what the hell it it just a minor complaint.
I am planning to see her tonight but am now thinking about looking elsewhere for something different.
I will keep my fellow mongers posted.
...If you are a tourist staying in a reasonable hotel with all your belongings take her to a short time hotel. She will know where, and it will only cost 100/150...
The only problem with these cheap short time hotels is that they are mostly filthy dumps with stained sheets, phone booth sized bathrooms, no hot water, and usually no air conditioning. I can't get comfortable for a good sex session in at place like that so I end up taking them home in spite of the potential risks.
Daddy07, there are many short time places with air, including even PS Guesthouse (200 baht). Admittedly not a place everyone can stomach. There are several others on Soi Yamoto in the 200-300 baht range that are cleaner, and many others around Pattaya. Many even have hot water - Nipa House on Yamoto does for 200, and there's one opposite it that is downright posh for 300.. the name escapes me.
I always feel so much more relaxed in a short-time hotel, unless the girl is an old regular. Makes me nervous to have a strange girl in my room! (I know that sounds funny).
I'll add a non-Pattaya aside - up here in Isaan every town has an astounding number of '24 hotels', mostly near the outskirts. These are identifiable only by the 24 in the sign and the motel-building look, as there is usually no English. The typical charge is 150-160 baht for two hours, and about double that for overnight, though few sleep there. A small minority of these places will have girls on call, or a massage or kareoke front joint attached, though be warned the services are usually expensive for the foreigner (1,000-1,500). I assume these can be found in other parts of Thailand as well. Interestingly, these are all much cleaner and nicer than the typical short time place in Pattaya - many even have the mirrors round the bed.
Daddy07, there are many short time places with air, including even PS Guesthouse (200 baht). Admittedly not a place everyone can stomach...
HaHaHa ... man, you can say that again about PS Guesthouse! It's awfully convenient for a 500 baht BR BJ girl, but that place is gross to the maximum. I once made the mistake of tossing my light colored T-shirt on top of the wardrobe. When I brought it down just a few minutes later, (I don't last long in these dumps), the side touching the surface was completely black from the 1/4 inch layer of dust up there. It probably hadn't been cleaned since the building was new.
It's hard to concentrate on the sex when your mind is occupied with trying to avoid lying down on some previous punter's spunk spots, so I can't relax like you can in such a place. I must admit, however, that the sickening ambiance of the room can somehow almost inhance the porn style sexual experience, so long as the only part of your body actually touching any surface is your feet.
I'm sure there must be much better short time places as you describe, but when the price gets up to the 300 baht range and beyond, it's starting to approach the amount of the tip you'll be paying the girl, thus bringing the law of diminishing returns into the equasion. So I'd rather just take the girl back home. When staying in a decent hotel you can always have the desk clerk keep the girl's ID card during your session.
Hello,
I'm in Pattaya in November. Nobody is there for a beer? It's my first time. I must prenotation the room. Someone can help me. This website. And this appartment someone try? It's girl friendly?
http://www.dianapattaya.co.th
And if is not girl friendly someone can help me and indicated some appartment in the centre (near walkin street)?
Thanks
well, mort - thing is that you may have well serviced her as much as she you and she was embarrassed to say so.
I've found that it's almost characteristic of newbies not to know what to do if they enjoyed themselves. See if she calls back. I'm thinking she might view you as a potential BF and didn't want to scare you off by alluding to a "satisfactory commercial transaction".
Note to Pattaya expats:
The US Embassy in BKK periodically provides a one day extension office in Pattaya for the benefit of US citizens who have business with the Embassy, such as passport and visa matters, etc. A vice counsel and staff was at the Dusit Hotel on July 18. I was able to obtain notarized proof of monthly income for purposes of extending my retirement visa without making a trip to Bangkok.
It’s a good idea to monitor the Embassy website from time to time at http://bangkok.usembassy.gov/ for announcements of future Pattaya visits. It saved me both time and money.
Regards,
Daddy
Wayne Carey
07-26-08, 07:40
Flew in to new Bangkok airport at 11. 00 local time last night. Was in Pattaya by 12. 30. Still quite busy around walking st and soi 7. 8. Had a look around had a couple of beers and picked #66 from Living Dolls go go. The bigger one further up walking st. This girl had the most magnificent set of natural tits you will see on a Thai or any other girl for that matter. If you are into porn they were a bit like Amy Reid the pornstar. They seemed to defy gravity and were 100% natural. The rest of her wasn't bad but the tits were the stunning feature. She has a couple of big tatts which I am not a massive fan of but don't care too much about anymore. She was ok in the sack without being great.
Overall looks 8
Body 9.5 (tits)
Face 7.5
Personality 8 - quite bbbly, smiley and friendly
Conversation 6 - not great english
BJ 5
Enthusiam 7
Overall rating 7.5 - Hopefully can do better tonight.
I just returned from Pattaya two days ago. Spent a few days with a freelancer I know from a couple of times before. Good time as always, but again, maybe I am just lucky with this one.
She said things with her were slower than this time last year so it might be that the ladies are keener. As low/slow season I enjoyed my stay this time. Maybe I am just getting old!
Anyway off to Dubai tomorrow early, and not looking forward to the comparrison when I return... For me this is the right time of year for Thailand.
Good Luck!
Wayne Carey
07-27-08, 04:21
Took #34 out of Living Dolls 1 last night for short time. Meant to go out again and do a round 2 but fell asleep. Not much enthusiasm but very good lookng. Might go for a more down to earth beer bar girl tonight.
Looks 9
body 9.5
enthusiasm 4
conversation 7
over all 6
My regular gf came over from Bangkok and stayed for a few days so my freedom has been curtailed somewhat. Saw her off on the songtaew this morning as she had to get back for work and needed to get to the bus station early.
I wasted no time at all looking for something to satisy my lustings that had been building up over the last couple of days so took a walk down Soi 6. I have to say that this is not my usual style and I normally prefer freelancers, but I did not want to waste precious time hunting around all afternoon looking for something suitable.
Anyway it was about 12 noon today and the soi was already teeming with girls all eager to please. The choice down here is amazing and though I feel the general quality of the freelancers is not as good as it was when I was here last time, Soi 6 seemed to have plenty of choice with a generally good standard.
I have walked down this Soi so many times over the years, even stopped for a drink here but never taken a girl, but today I was a man on a mission.
I opted for one bar that had a cute girl outside and asked her how much for short time. It came to 300 baht for the room and 1000 for her which I thought was a bit expensive and so declined. It really amazes me that the girls do not seem prepared to negotiate even in low season when the girls outnumber the men 10 to 1. Anyway I moved on and a few bars further along came across a young girl with the cutest smile I have ever seen. She turned out to be 23 from Buriam, really small and very very petite, just the way I like them. We talked about the price which was 250 for the room and 700 for her and I was in no mood to wait any longer and accepted. Her name was Dow and she came inside the bar with me whilst I paid for the room.
This girl was unbelievable, she had the warmest personality and a constant beaming smile that lit the whole place up. We went up through two flights of stairs to a room which was very basic but clean and comfortable. We showered together, with her washing me down and then retired to the room.
For 700 she performed OWO and I have to say the technique was superb, as good as I have had anywhere else.
She did not rush me and I felt relaxed in her presence. She was receptive with lots of french kissing and hugging and I could take no more than 5 minutes before exploding in her mouth. She continued sucking until I could take no more and tapped her on the shoulder to ask her to stop. She looked up, smiled and I realised that she had swallowed the whole mouthful. Wow for a total price of 1000 baht including a small tip, this beat any service I have had anywhere and is certainly better value for money than the 500 baht short time freelancers, though that still holds a certain attraction for me.
If anyone wants to try out this experience, it was a bar called the Bull Ring in Soi 6 opposite the King Kong Bar. It is a fairly unassuming place and might not necessarily be a person's first port of call in this Soi, but this was one of my very best experiences in many visits to Pattaya.
LittleBigMan
07-28-08, 10:19
Mortman,
Good job to smell the overpricing by some girls at soi 6, rain or shine even if there is a line, the going rate at all the bar's at Soi 6, is 250-300 for the house and 700 baht for the girl!
LBM
ThaiLearner
07-28-08, 23:12
I have never mongered outside the US and I have finally chosen a destination. This would be Pattaya. I have never traveled outside of hte country before so excuse my ignorance. What exactly do I need to travel from the U. S to Thailand. How easy is it to find party favors in Thailand besides the liquor. I am not le. Everybody seems to think that when I ask this question. I have been jumped on in other rooms. I have planned a pre disneyland trip to DR in oct anybody going to be there from this room let me know. I am doing this to get my feet wet so I have a little experience before hitting disneyworld. I am planning on spending three days in Pattaya and 2 in Bangkok and I have a few questions and by the way I am 28 years old and love to PARTY that's why I asked about the party favors in the intro. Thanks for the help.
1. Outside of mongering what other activities are there I love jet skiing and waverunning?
2. Should I rent a car to get around?
3. Will a U. S liscense work in Thailand for renting cars bikes jet skiis etc?
4. What places do you recomend to eat I am a chillis and steakhouses and hibachi type of guy?
5. I am planning on going alone should I drag someone with me or am I safe by myself?
6. I work out 5 days a week what gyms are there and how much should I pay to use their facilities?
7. How do the thai people view black americans?
8. Would you check out Bangkok or just focus on Pattaya?
9. Are all hotels girl friendly in Pattaya?
1) You can Jet ski Banana boats etc in pattaya there is also the cinema and bowling.
2) If you are only staying in Pattaya then there is no point I have never needed one the Baht bus is a good and cheap way to get around.
3) You should get a thai (international license) but most people don't bother .
4) There are plenty of places to eat steak (sorry I do not know what Chillis is ) pattaya has many western fast food places as well.
5) You will be find by yourself.
6) do not know.
7) Sorry I do not know either.
8) How long are you staying out there for? You could spend a couple of days in Bangkok then pattaya.
9) no they are not a GF place is where they will let a girl stay with you for no extra charge see the hotel thread.
Superman79
07-29-08, 00:58
I am planning on spending three days in Pattaya and 2 in Bangkok and I have a few questions and by the way I am 28 years old and love to PARTY that's why I asked about the party favors in the intro. Thanks for the help.
Wow. You are only planning on spending 5 days in Thailand? Trust me. That will not be enough time. Maybe stay one night in Bangkok (nana hotel) and then spend the rest in Pattaya. I recomend staying in the Soi 8 area. (many beer bars/central location)
I'm 29 myself. If you want to party at night, go to Club Lucifer's (mostly hip hop if you like that) and you can find you an all night freelancer for 1000 baht. ($30)
Have fun (your next trip should be brazil!)
i have never mongered outside the us and i have finally chosen a destination. this would be pattaya. i have never traveled outside of hte country before so excuse my ignorance. what exactly do i need to travel from the u. s to thailand. how easy is it to find party favors in thailand besides the liquor. i am not le. everybody seems to think that when i ask this question. i have been jumped on in other rooms. i have planned a pre disneyland trip to dr in oct anybody going to be there from this room let me know. i am doing this to get my feet wet so i have a little experience before hitting disneyworld. i am planning on spending three days in pattaya and 2 in bangkok and i have a few questions and by the way i am 28 years old and love to party that's why i asked about the party favors in the intro. thanks for the help.
1. outside of mongering what other activities are there i love jet skiing and waverunning?
2. should i rent a car to get around?
3. will a u. s liscense work in thailand for renting cars bikes jet skiis etc?
4. what places do you recomend to eat i am a chillis and steakhouses and hibachi type of guy?
5. i am planning on going alone should i drag someone with me or am i safe by myself?
6. i work out 5 days a week what gyms are there and how much should i pay to use their facilities?
7. how do the thai people view black americans?
8. would you check out bangkok or just focus on pattaya?
9. are all hotels girl friendly in pattaya?
1. although all kinds of [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118) are freely available in pattaya, personally i would not want to swim in and around pattaya. the water here is quite dirty and polluted and there are much nicer places in thailand if that is your primary focus. you can take boat trips out to a couple of the islands off pattaya, where the water quality is better.
2. as thai learner said, if pattaya is your primary destination and this is your first visit, i would strongly advise against hiring a car here. traffic can be almost as busy as bangkok and cars drive on the left hand side here (some would argue the correct side!) if you really want to get around with some freedom, hire a motorcycle. a scooter here will set you back around 1000 baht for one week and the machines are generally very new. it is a good way to explore pattaya by yourself and quite safe so long as you don't try to ride whislt drunk. if you go outside of pattaya in a car especially in and around bangkok, the roads can be very confusing even with a good map.
3. if you are renting a car then i would recommend an international licence. i don't know about the us but in the uk they are easy to get and cost very little. in thailand it is a requirement to have an international licence and whilst it is almost never going to be an issue with a motorcycle, if you get stopped on a freeway driving a car, the cops will expect you to have one, and you are likely to be fined if you don't.
4. the advice you have been given previously is correct. chillis are part of the staple diet here in thailand, you are about as likely to meet a restaraunt without chillis as you are to win the top prize in the national lottery.
5. you are completely safe here alone, in fact i feel much safer here than i do in many us and uk cities, even at night. like anywhere you need to exercise standard precautions but pattaya is very very safe.
6. there are many many gyms here. many of the larger 4 and 5 star hotels have fitness rooms and there are at least 10 hard core bodybuilding gyms in and around pattaya. just ask the hotel receptionist and they will find the nearest one to wherever you want to stay. incidentally anabolic steroids of all descriptions are freely available from the pharmacies here, if that is your thing.
7.thai people can be funny when it comes to race. there has been much discussion about this subject on other threads in the thailand forum. where you do encounter racism it tends to be done very discreetly, for example a bar girl will say she is not feeling well rather than go with you. don't let this put you off though, the power of money here is all that matters and there are many people coming here from the middle east, so people are getting used to other races rather than just white farang. i have never seen any overt racism and it will not be a problem for you i am sure.
8. bangkok is interesting in its own right and i suggest you read the bkk thread.
9. virtually all hotels are girl friendly in pattaya and it simply would be commercial suicide for them here if they stopped being girl friendly.
Superman79
07-29-08, 07:28
7. How do the thai people view black americans?I've had no problem as a black american in Thailand. The girls love the "chocolate man" as they will yell at you constantly. As I said before, you will love Lucifer's at night on Walking street.
4. The advice you have been given previously is correct. Chillis are part of the staple diet here in Thailand, you are about as likely to meet a restaraunt without chillis as you are to win the top prize in the national lottery.
Guys,
Chilis is a chain of restaurants serving Tex-mex or some abomination that hankers towards it. Steak, fajitas, chicken etc. Popular in the US and it's managed to be exported to the Middle East. Not my type, but just to clarify, if clarity needed. Somehow methingks you posted with tongue very much in cheek. I may be wrong :)
Expatcat
Royal Asia Garden has both Sizzler and Benihana.
Steak and teppanyaki both there - opposite ends of the mall
I personally prefer the side-of-the-street food myself (ta mai pet, kin mai chawp) :)
Guys,
Chilis is a chain of restaurants serving Tex-mex or some abomination that hankers towards it. Steak, fajitas, chicken etc. Popular in the US and it's managed to be exported to the Middle East. Not my type, but just to clarify, if clarity needed. Somehow methingks you posted with tongue very much in cheek. I may be wrong :)
Expatcat
IMHO, "Chili's" is god awful. Then again, so are Sizzlers and Benyhana. I go to the LOS to eat Thai. Both the girls and the food. ;-)
Take care,
N1
Old Thai Hand
07-30-08, 05:49
I personally prefer the side-of-the-street food myself
You obviously have a death wish.
I personally prefer the side-of-the-street food myself
Couldn't agree more! Off -the- street food and off -the -street girls. Both delicious, tasty and much cheaper!
Old Thai Hand
07-30-08, 11:56
Couldn't agree more! Off -the- street food and off -the -street girls. Both delicious, tasty and much cheaper!
That may be true. But, at least in the case of the food, it's not very healthy and not all that good for you.
That may be true. But, at least in the case of the food, it's not very healthy and not all that good for you.
How is it unhealthy?
Old Thai Hand
07-30-08, 15:03
How is it unhealthy?
The oil, which is usually a poor quality, inadequately recycled oil is then re-used over and over again when they cook. Carcinogens build up from all the frying and grilling. The grills are rarely that clean to begin with and have carcinogenic tar residue build-up on them over the course of day-long cooking. Most vegetable dishes are over-cooked, so lack much nutrition. They tend to use the cheapest refined rice which has high glucose content and almost no nutritive value. The soup water in which they cook noodles is rarely changed and sits exposed to the same dirty air.
The only food that may be ok, IMO, is somtam because the mango and vegetables are usually kept in a glass case and the mango often replenished with freshly chopped mango.
The only people that eat this street food are Thais on a budget and tourists. I don't know anyone among my aquaintances, both Thai and Farang who eat on the street, except maybe for the occasional snack.
There are many good Thai restaurants everywhere, many of which are also reasonably prices where the quality is far superior and safer.
Besides all of this, I think street food just doesn't taste all that good.
The oil, which is usually a poor quality, inadequately recycled oil is then re-used over and over again when they cook. Carcinogens build up from all the frying and grilling. The grills are rarely that clean to begin with and have carcinogenic tar residue build-up on them over the course of day-long cooking. Most vegetable dishes are over-cooked, so lack much nutrition. They tend to use the cheapest refined rice which has high glucose content and almost no nutritive value. The soup water in which they cook noodles is rarely changed and sits exposed to the same dirty air.
The only food that may be ok, IMO, is somtam because the mango and vegetables are usually kept in a glass case and the mango often replenished with freshly chopped mango.
The only people that eat this street food are Thais on a budget and tourists. I don't know anyone among my aquaintances, both Thai and Farang who eat on the street, except maybe for the occasional snack.
There are many good Thai restaurants everywhere, many of which are also reasonably prices where the quality is far superior and safer.
Besides all of this, I think street food just doesn't taste all that good.
How can you be sure that the same methods you mentioned above aren't being used in a restaurant too? It's hard to tell what's going on behind the scenes in the kitchen.
Old Thai Hand
07-30-08, 17:54
How can you be sure that the same methods you mentioned above aren't being used in a restaurant too? It's hard to tell what's going on behind the scenes in the kitchen.
Well, of course, that's true because there's no health inspector here like you would find in a western city. But, after you've been here awhile, you do get to know the places that have excellent food and can be trusted.
As for Pattaya...there isn't any really good Thai food there anyway, in my experience. Like most tourist traps, a lot of the food has been Farang-ized beyond recognition.
I was in Pattaya last week. Really!
Everybody knows that I am a big Pattaya fan, and now that I haven't been there for at least 3 years it was time to go there again [nonsense, simply business].
It has changed. New buildings, hotels, shopping centers/areas everywhere. Much more modern now. Not good, not bad, somehow a crazy mix, all the bar areas next to modern buildings.
Many Russian tourists now, and surprisingly also many couples and families. May be because I stayed in North Pattaya ..., a nice resort (Green Garden Resort ?!?, not sure about the name), huge pool, reasonable rooms, clean, TV, average quality breakfast and food. Beds not too good, old matrices, simple sheets. Internet - wireless, 70 min THB 100, 10 min. to display one page, SMTP blocked - unusable. I went to Starbucks (in Royal Garden Shopping Center), there it works very well.
Nightlife:
Beer bar areas everywhere, extremely boring, providers quality - no quality at all. I have no idea why there are still some customers visiting those beer bars. The closer you come to Walking Street the more customer those beer bar areas have.
Gogo's: Happy A Gogo was somehow ok. Provider quality average ... but no reason to run away immediately. No smoking in that bar ! I was surprised. Bar had customers.
Diamond a GoGo - the hit a few years ago - now dead. No customers, no quality providers. I left immediately.
Tahitian Queen - bar is still good, has customers, providers quality average, good music.
Beach Road at night:
I don't see any difference to what I have seen some years before. Still lots of lonely [horny???] ladies waiting for customers - ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW!!! Yikes, I have no idea how this ladies can ever find somebody - but obviously it does happen sometimes.
Next update on Pattaya then in 3 years [earliest] - I hope I can avoid it, I definitely don't like it.
Giotto
I like to eat SOM TAM myself, but I never heard about they use mango to make that. Everyone I ask will use pappaya to make SOM TAM
Maybe you are not so experienced as you try to make the impression of??????
Ken.
The only food that may be ok, IMO, is somtam because the mango and vegetables are usually kept in a glass case and the mango often replenished with freshly chopped mango.
The only people that eat this street food are Thais on a budget and tourists. I don't know anyone among my aquaintances, both Thai and Farang who eat on the street, except maybe for the occasional snack.
There are many good Thai restaurants everywhere, many of which are also reasonably prices where the quality is far superior and safer.
Besides all of this, I think street food just doesn't taste all that good.[/QUOTE]
Terry Terrier
07-30-08, 22:47
The only food that may be ok, IMO, is somtam
Pra ra is healthy? :eek:
Lord Farquard
07-31-08, 00:56
I like to eat SOM TAM myself, but I never heard about they use mango to make that. Everyone I ask will use pappaya to make SOM TAM
Maybe you are not so experienced as you try to make the impression of??????
Ken. .
Som tam or Som tum (Thai: ส้มตำ, IPA: som ɗam) also known as Tam mak hoong (Lao: ??????????, Isan: ตำมักหุ่ง, IPA: ɗam mak huŋ) is a spicy salad made from shredded unripened papaya originally from Laos and Lao-settled Isan region of northeastern Thailand. Variations of the dish are found throughout Laos and Thailand, as well as in the West, where it is more commonly known by its Thai version and Thai name. A similar dish is also eaten in Cambodia, where it is known as bok l'hong. It is often served with sticky rice (Lao: ເຂົ້າໜຽວ, Thai/Isan: ข้าวเหนียว, IPA: kʰaːw nio) and gai yang (Lao: ປິງໄກ່, IPA: piŋ gɑj, Isan: ไก่ย่าง, gɑj ɲːaŋ, Thai: ไก่ย่าง, IPA: gɑj jːaŋ). It is also sometimes served over rice noodles and raw vegetables to mitigate the spiciness of the dish, or simply as a snack by itself with crispy pork rinds.
...Next update on Pattaya then in 3 years [earliest] - I hope I can avoid it, I definitely don't like it...
So nice to see an honest unbiased report here for a change. :) It's such a pleasant contrast to all the slobbering knuckle dragger stories we usually see on this thread.
Please don't make us wait 3 years for the next one.
Maybe if you had a business located in Pattaya you might like it better.
Old Thai Hand
07-31-08, 02:47
I like to eat SOM TAM myself, but I never heard about they use mango to make that. Everyone I ask will use pappaya to make SOM TAM
Maybe you are not so experienced as you try to make the impression of??????
Ken.
Well, in fact they can make somtam with either papaya or mango. Mango somtam is one of my favorites. They also make a somtam with long beans. That's called somtam tua - also a favorite. Have you actually ever been to a proper Isaan restaurant? You'll find a whole variety of somtam on offer.
But, in actual fact I did mean to say papaya, not mango in my post as papaya is by far, the most common form of somtam, and usually the only kind available on the street.
Terry...You're right. pra ra is decidely unhealthy and has been linked to stomache cancer. But, I don't think there are many Farang who eat anything but the sweet and sour somtam Thai. Personally, I hate pra ra and those little black crabs, too.
Old Thai Hand
07-31-08, 03:01
So nice to see an honest unbiased report here for a change. :) It's such a pleasant contrast to all the slobbering knuckle dragger stories we usually see on this thread.
Please don't make us wait 3 years for the next one.
Maybe if you had a business located in Pattaya you might like it better.
I think the problem Daddy is that you guys in Patts get so conditioned by the low-standard of women available there that you lose sight of what a good-looking Thai woman really is. I think Giotto's reaction to the women is because he probably sees women of such quality on a daily basis that one would never see in Patts.
A solid '10' in Patts would be lucky to be rated a '4' in Bangkok.
I think the problem Daddy is that you guys in Patts get so conditioned by the low-standard of women available there that you lose sight of what a good-looking Thai woman really is. I think Giotto's reaction to the women is because he probably sees women of such quality on a daily basis that one would never see in Patts.
A solid '10' in Patts would be lucky to be rated a '4' in Bangkok.
No problem at all, OTH. I always get a chuckle at all the sophisticates’ from Bangkok stumbling over each other in their over the top exaggerations about the shit hole of Pattaya.
You know ... stuff like: "A solid '10' in Patts would be lucky to be rated a '4' in Bangkok." Very comical.
I'm sure you must be correct, but I'm happy I've not discovered the awful truth yet. :)
I was in Pattaya last week. Really!
Everybody knows that I am a big Pattaya fan, and now that I haven't been there for at least 3 years it was time to go there again [nonsense, simply business].
It has changed. New buildings, hotels, shopping centers/areas everywhere. Much more modern now. Not good, not bad, somehow a crazy mix, all the bar areas next to modern buildings.
Many Russian tourists now, and surprisingly also many couples and families. May be because I stayed in North Pattaya ..., a nice resort (Green Garden Resort ?!?, not sure about the name), huge pool, reasonable rooms, clean, TV, average quality breakfast and food. Beds not too good, old matrices, simple sheets. Internet - wireless, 70 min THB 100, 10 min. to display one page, SMTP blocked - unusable. I went to Starbucks (in Royal Garden Shopping Center), there it works very well.
Nightlife:
Beer bar areas everywhere, extremely boring, providers quality - no quality at all. I have no idea why there are still some customers visiting those beer bars. The closer you come to Walking Street the more customer those beer bar areas have.
Gogo's: Happy A Gogo was somehow ok. Provider quality average ... but no reason to run away immediately. No smoking in that bar ! I was surprised. Bar had customers.
Diamond a GoGo - the hit a few years ago - now dead. No customers, no quality providers. I left immediately.
Tahitian Queen - bar is still good, has customers, providers quality average, good music.
Beach Road at night:
I don't see any difference to what I have seen some years before. Still lots of lonely [horny???] ladies waiting for customers - ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW!!! Yikes, I have no idea how this ladies can ever find somebody - but obviously it does happen sometimes.
Next update on Pattaya then in 3 years [earliest] - I hope I can avoid it, I definitely don't like it.
Giotto
Come on Giotto. As a moderator you might consider a little moderation. This post smacks of a bit of a negative marketing campaign coming from someone who obviously has some financial interest in promoting BKK and Soi 33 and the establishment you are associated with.
I would humbly suggest that one very short visit in 3 years doesn't qualify you as an expert in the quality of the girls in Pattaya.
I read a lot of your material re: BKK and found it quite informative. This was not one of your best efforts.
I've seen both gorgeous and exceptionally unattractive girls in both places. The proportion of gorgeous vs. unattractive varies from time to time in both places. IMHO, attitudes and price of the girls are a bit better in Pattaya. But, that's just from my experiences. I've had great and beautiful WGs in both venues. I've also had less than great encounters in both places.
I've visited Soi 33 a number of times (5 or 6) and in all cases I found attractive and unattractive girls just like Pattaya. The issue I have encountered with Soi 33 girls was attitude and price. There have been a number of Soi 33 Painter bars that I visited with girls that made many of the Soi 7 beer bar girls look really good.
Still Soi 33 is still worth a visit. The prices for the girls and the drinks are a bit over the top.
I don't pretend to be an expert on all that is the LOS. I'm just a tourist. Just like you were a tourist in Pattaya. How many nights did you spend in Pattaya before you came to the conclusion that it wasn't worth a visit for the next 3 years or maybe never?
Given your very informative reports on BKK; you could have been a little more honest or at least informative with your post.
Here is my edited version of your post. "I have a vested interest in a hotel/resort on Soi 33 in BKK. As a smart business man, I must suggest that you never visit Pattaya. This place really sucks and 99.99% of the girls in that butt hole of a place are exceptionally fugly. On the other hand, a vast majority (99.99%) of the girls on Soi 33 are stunners. Pattaya sucks! Why would any punter in his right mind go there? BTW. Check out my place on Soi 33 in BKK."
That may or may not have been your intention. But that's the way I interpreted your post. I'm pulling your chain a bit here. No harm intended. I seriously have found your BKK posts informative.
Take care,
N1
So nice to see an honest unbiased report here for a change. :)
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Maybe if you had a business located in Pattaya you might like it better.Daddy07,
Hmmm, I think I feel the irony in your words ... :)
Anyway, I tried to write my report as unbiased as possible - I never liked Pattaya, so I am biased, for sure.
I definitely find the providers quality low there, compared to Bangkok. This has a lot to do with the type of bars I visited, the way the girls are dressed, the way they behave, the way they carry themselves - not my thing. But - to each his own. There are obviously lots of customers which like this style.
No way that I start a business in Pattaya. I checked out some boutique hotels which are to be sold, and my decision was very clear: No business in Pattaya, I don't want to spend a lot of time there to start it up. I also don't see a real chance of making money there, it is mass tourism, and money can only be made with quantity, most likely not with quality. I thought about giving it a try, but I put that plan to the files.
Giotto
Come on Giotto. As a moderator you might consider a little moderation. This post smacks of a bit of a negative marketing campaign coming from someone who obviously has some financial interest in promoting BKK and Soi 33 and the establishment you are associated with.
I would humbly suggest that one very short visit in 3 years doesn't qualify you as an expert in the quality of the girls in Pattaya.
I read a lot of your material re: BKK and found it quite informative. This was not one of your best efforts.
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Nuevo,
I visited Pattaya, and I wrote a report. I can stop writing reports about Pattaya, if you wish ...
When I read my report again - I mentioned, that it was my first visit since 3 years - that definitely doesn't qualify me as a Pattaya expert. I simply wrote about what I saw. My personal impression.
There was no marketing approach for Livingstone's Lodge in this report at all. Pattaya customers are usually not customers of Soi 33 in Bangkok. Those worlds obviously don't really match.
Regarding the quality of girls: There is a huge difference between Soi 33 and what I saw in Pattaya. But there is no area like Soi 33 in Pattaya from which I know - so it does not really surprise me. You can compare the Go-Go bars of Pattaya with the Soi Nana / Soi Cowboy area and possibly the beer bars with those we have here in Bangkok in Soi 22 and Soi 5/7. And even then - there are differences in the behaviour, dresses etc., in my POV.
But I hope that I am allowed to write a report about Pattaya when I have visited it without being qualified as a Pattaya expert - everybody else writing here is for sure more expert about Thai service provider quality and Pattaya than me.
Giotto
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Here is my edited version of your post. "I have a vested interest in a hotel/resort on Soi 33 in BKK. As a smart business man, I must suggest that you never visit Pattaya. This place really sucks and 99.99% of the girls in that butt hole of a place are exceptionally fugly. On the other hand, a vast majority (99.99%) of the girls on Soi 33 are stunners. Pattaya sucks! Why would any punter in his right mind go there? BTW. Check out my place on Soi 33 in BKK."
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Nuevo,
LOL, no, that is definitely not the message - please not!
The experiences we have here in Livingstone's with the tourists who usually visit Pattaya is - let's say difficult. And this is not meant to be any kind of valuation ...
Pattaya is relatively cheap, you can get everything cheap there, cheap hotels, cheap food, cheap girls. Soi 33 is definitely not cheap - that doesn't fit together. Some Pattaya tourists visit Bangkok and Livingstone's, and when they start to compare it always comes down to one point - everything is so expensive here in Soi 33, compared to Pattaya.
Then the quality approach - are the girls "better" than in Pattaya? What justifies a higher price? What is "better" ? The performance in the sack? I don't think that the higher prices for girls guarantee a better performance ...
There are people staying in Khao San Road area, in the lower Sukhumvit area, in the 5 star hotels at the river, in North Pattaya, South Pattaya - to each his own. All the areas have a different style and provide different entertainment options. Everybody should just accept that and do whatever he likes.
The most problematic customers for us here at Livingstone's are the unhappy ones - i.e. the ones who like to stay in this place because so much was written in the forums, but they expect something like Pattaya - and then the rooms, food, girls are more expensive here. And the complaining starts ...
For me - Pattaya sucks. But obviously for many others not. To each his own, let's leave it like that.
Giotto
M P Lurker
07-31-08, 05:41
The only people that eat this street food are Thais on a budget and tourists. I don't know anyone among my aquaintances, both Thai and Farang who eat on the street, except maybe for the occasional snack.
There are many good Thai restaurants everywhere, many of which are also reasonably prices where the quality is far superior and safer.
Besides all of this, I think street food just doesn't taste all that good.
In many budget Hotels, the food quality is not that great.
Off the street often tastes a lot better.
There are many crap expensive restaurants around as well.
Street sellers wouldn't do well if their food tastes bad.
The times I have been sick were from eating in restaurants, although not may be top class expensive ones.
I have never been sick from eating off the street vendors.
A large portion of Thais are poor and cannot afford expensive restaurants. They are quite happy to eat from selected street vendors that they trust to have fresh produce. Some will buy at the markets and prepare for themselves especially when nearby street vendors don't have the variety.
M P Lurker
07-31-08, 05:52
I like to eat SOM TAM myself, but I never heard about they use mango to make that. Everyone I ask will use pappaya to make SOM TAM
Maybe you are not so experienced as you try to make the impression of??????
Ken.
OTH knew that Som Tam was made with Malagor (papaya) but miss translated into English. (just a slip)
However a variation made with mamuang (mango) does exist, but not so commonly ordered.
There are many Thai dishes where we know what it is in Thai but rarely have to speak its English names.
Some we wouldn't have a clue what it is called in English.
El Minetero
07-31-08, 07:07
The reason food from street vendors has that unique, hard to identify flavor, is Road Spice. This is the dust that is thrown up by every passing motorcycle, car, truck and bus. It is a combination of dirt, garbage, particulate pollution, spit, cigarette butts and ashes, and dried, pulverized droppings from stray dogs. The street vendors are aware of this 'Manna from the tires' and position themselves to take the best advantage of it. Witness the BBQ chicken carts right next to Sukhumvit Highway.
Street food is not the only beneficiary of this free seasoning. If you eat in one of the open air restaurants, along Beach Road for example, you'll notice they wipe the table when you sit down. After you finish your meal, wipe your finger on the table and notice the black grime on your finger tip. What falls out of the air onto your table fell on your food as well.
Think about it.
Khun Talung
Old Thai Hand
07-31-08, 07:42
No problem at all, OTH. I always get a chuckle at all the sophisticates’ from Bangkok stumbling over each other in their over the top exaggerations about the shit hole of Pattaya.
You know ... stuff like: "A solid '10' in Patts would be lucky to be rated a '4' in Bangkok." Very comical.
I'm sure you must be correct, but I'm happy I've not discovered the awful truth yet. :)
The exception might be the nurses at Bangkok Hospital Pattaya. Some of them are pretty hot.
Anyway, I'm sure you and I have quite different tastes. So, my condemnation of the dark lovelies of Patts comes from my rather un-Farang view of what constitutes Thai beauty. I'm not going to get into any more debates about that because my view is the minority view on here and I respect that fact.
Lover Boy #2
07-31-08, 07:50
I've had no problem as a black american in Thailand. The girls love the "chocolate man" as they will yell at you constantly. As I said before, you will love Lucifer's at night on Walking street.
Everything is Ok for the Chocolate Man, as long as he has money (possibly overspends)....and doesn't take too long. Trouble starts for the Chocolate Man when there is a money dispute, a cultural dispute or a babe who just doesn't like you dispute. The Chocolate Man would not be happy if he heard the girl's comments behind his back...and neither would the the Vanilla Man. Thai rak Thai for the most part.....Chocolate and Vanilla welcome to play....with money for the honey!!
However a variation made with mamuang (mango) does exist, but not common.
It is very common here in Isaan. Perhaps you Bangkok types should spend a weekend out here sometime and see what you are missing, in both types of food!
Old Thai Hand
07-31-08, 07:55
However a variation made with mamuang (mango) does exist, but not common.
True. It's not common with street vendors largely because mangos are so much more expensive than papaya. The same would be true for Isaan people at home. They're less likely to make somtam mamuang when they can make somtam malagor for a lot less money. But, they still often do. Also, pra ra and those black crabs don't really go with mango, IMO.
But, mango somtam is readily available in any Isaan restaurant or Thai restaurant that has somtam on it's menu. Even that Isaan chain 'Yum Saep' has it. They have a lovely fried fish with mango somtam dip - sweet, sour and spicy and quite good.
Lover Boy #2
07-31-08, 07:55
I have never mongered outside the US and I have finally chosen a destination. This would be Pattaya. I have never traveled outside of hte country before so excuse my ignorance. What exactly do I need to travel from the U. S to Thailand. How easy is it to find party favors in Thailand besides the liquor. I am not le. Everybody seems to think that when I ask this question. I have been jumped on in other rooms. I have planned a pre disneyland trip to DR in oct anybody going to be there from this room let me know. I am doing this to get my feet wet so I have a little experience before hitting disneyworld. I am planning on spending three days in Pattaya and 2 in Bangkok and I have a few questions and by the way I am 28 years old and love to PARTY that's why I asked about the party favors in the intro. Thanks for the help.
1. Outside of mongering what other activities are there I love jet skiing and waverunning?
2. Should I rent a car to get around?
3. Will a U. S liscense work in Thailand for renting cars bikes jet skiis etc?
4. What places do you recomend to eat I am a chillis and steakhouses and hibachi type of guy?
5. I am planning on going alone should I drag someone with me or am I safe by myself?
6. I work out 5 days a week what gyms are there and how much should I pay to use their facilities?
7. How do the thai people view black americans?
8. Would you check out Bangkok or just focus on Pattaya?
9. Are all hotels girl friendly in Pattaya?
You need a passport and some time to read the thousands of posts on this forum. There are many gyms all over major cities with many different pricing plans. Don't rent a car.....and don't focus on Pattaya alone....and no.....after working out five days a week.....you won't need to drag anyone along.......
Giotto you are quite right that Pattaya is worse than it used to be, due to 'modernization'. But I'd like to comment on two of your observations:
Beer bar areas everywhere, extremely boring, providers quality - no quality at all. I have no idea why there are still some customers visiting those beer bars. The closer you come to Walking Street the more customer those beer bar areas have.
These establishments have customers, Giotto, because men from certain countries, such as England, Germany, and the US do not have access to sex in their homelands. They come to Thailand and a few other destinations because these are the only places where they can have easy access to sex.
Beach Road at night:
I don't see any difference to what I have seen some years before. Still lots of lonely [horny???] ladies waiting for customers - ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW!!! Yikes, I have no idea how this ladies can ever find somebody - but obviously it does happen sometimes.
You are quite correct that the quality is low on the Beach, but this is a major change from years ago. Police action has led to fewer good looking girls on the beach. However, those who still brave the authorities can easily make 1,000-2,000 baht per day, as there are far more customers on the beach than in any bar. Many men simply hate the bars, and the annoyance of having to drink so much liquid for no good reason. Also there is something very irritating about having to sit in a place where there are only maybe 5-10 girls for even 15 minutes, not to mention paying 40-100 baht for the privilege. Keep in mind that the wonder of prostitution is Convenience, Giotto. You get to have lots of sex with lots of women, and most importantly without having to put up with many impositions.
The oil, which is usually a poor quality, inadequately recycled oil is then re-used over and over again when they cook. Carcinogens build up from all the frying and grilling. The grills are rarely that clean to begin with and have carcinogenic tar residue build-up on them over the course of day-long cooking.
The only people that eat this street food are Thais on a budget and tourists. I don't know anyone among my aquaintances, both Thai and Farang who eat on the street, except maybe for the occasional snack.
OTH, I eat in small restaurants and on the street constantly, but I do not eat 'pad' whatever - or anyway rarely. I also dislike the noodles soup which makes up some 80% of street food. What I eat, and recommend, are the pre-prepared foods which are set out in pots and pans. These are mostly delicious curries and soups rather than stir fried dishes. Alas this type of restaurant is getting rarer in Pattaya and Bangkok as it requires more trouble and space while development is destroying all that is good in the this country (and the rest of the world), and while up in Isaan though they are plentiful nearly all only offer take-out in the little plastic bags.
At any rate, the only times I have ever gotten even slightly sick in Thailand has been when I have eaten at more expensive Thai or Farang restaurants - in fact in these I've come to rather expect it. I've never gotten sick from street food. The key is quite simply that you must eat where the owner or a member of the owner's family cooks the food - paid cooks don't much care, and this is true anywhere in the world. Also always remember that Thais don't eat farang food, and therefore farang food is cooked with great indifference by Thais, who dislike farang.
Superman79
07-31-08, 08:57
Everything is Ok for the Chocolate Man, as long as he has money (possibly overspends)....and doesn't take too long. I have never had problems with thai women in pattaya!!!! And I NEVER overspend. 500 baht short time (usually 3 hours multiple finishes) and 1000 baht long time have to kick them out in the morning!
I agree money talks and could care less what is spoken around my back!
M P Lurker
07-31-08, 09:01
It is very common here in Isaan. Perhaps you Bangkok types should spend a weekend out here sometime and see what you are missing, in both types of food!
O.K. Point taken. What I should say is I didn't see someone order Som Tam Mamuang very often. I have editted to improve my wording. But my Issan GF did order it once or twice.
M P Lurker
07-31-08, 09:23
The reason food from street vendors has that unique, hard to identify flavor, is Road Spice. This is the dust that is thrown up by every passing motorcycle, car, truck and bus. It is a combination of dirt, garbage, particulate pollution, spit, cigarette butts and ashes, and dried, pulverized droppings from stray dogs. The street vendors are aware of this 'Manna from the tires' and position themselves to take the best advantage of it. Witness the BBQ chicken carts right next to Sukhumvit Highway.
Street food is not the only beneficiary of this free seasoning. If you eat in one of the open air restaurants, along Beach Road for example, you'll notice they wipe the table when you sit down. After you finish your meal, wipe your finger on the table and notice the black grime on your finger tip. What falls out of the air onto your table fell on your food as well.
Think about it.
Khun Talung
I am am blessed with no paranoia about dirt and microbes.
I know that girls mouths are full of germs and viruses yet I still want to kiss them. I have caught viruses but didn't kill me.
I hope a Psychiatrist can help. He might ask you if ironical/sarcastic writing shows a special talent too? It doesn't turn me on.
LittleBigMan
07-31-08, 10:25
concerning food i will have to agree with o****, most of the food i buy comes from the thai local outdoor markets, some cooked and some not but always from the same vendors who i accept their health habits. up to date now i haven't ever been sick and as i stay longer in pattaya i have started to try more street vendor food near my home and found that some of those bbq's pork and chicken sticks with the peanut sauce are unbelievable good. but remember oth,, a good ass cleansing is good for the system as long as you don't have to check into a hospital.
i'm certainly not a expert on looks when it comes to comparing girls in bangkok and pattaya, although i have the ball and chain on regularly i do get to look and i can only say oth, pattaya should get more credit than you are giving it. yes, pattaya now is growing and as you stated in the past there is more crime and after staying here longer i would agree with that point of view certainly now as the economy is slowing down. in regards to a 10 in pattaya only being a 4 in bangkok i can only say in my own eyes you are dead wrong. outside of the p4p scene i see stunners daily and i'm using the bangkok standards. next door to my son's school is the pbac business school and i love going early sitting in the car and watching them come out and thinking if i was single what i would love to do to them. last week after nearly 10 years i was able to venture down to walking street and saw much more than i expected. not everything i saw were stunners but at the same time i didn't have to rush to the 7/11 to buy bags to cover their heads.
what i surmise these days about pattaya and about women looks that are being mentioned here on the board is mainly about p4p. that guys come for short periods for business or vacation and expect to find every women to be a stunner and that's impossible. when you're here just enjoying the life daily you see stunners everyday and they aren't 4's! at least not yet! i'm getting old but i'm not blind yet!
for those of you that hate pattaya or had a bad experience good! don't come back! more for the rest of us and at cheaper prices!
lbm
...Anyway, I'm sure you and I have quite different tastes. So, my condemnation of the dark lovelies of Patts comes from my rather un-Farang view of what constitutes Thai beauty...
Actually, I believe we probably have much the same tastes. First and foremost, we both love beautiful women, and Thailand produces them in abundance. I've seen the photo's you post, and those women are very lovely indeed. But perhaps you forget that girls come to Pattaya from all over Thailand and I see many many light skinned beauties of the sort you and I prefer, both good girls and p4p. They are not all of the dark skinned monkey faced variety you deplore.
Where we differ, I think, is you want a girlfriend/wife, and I want to be free as the wind in the LOS. I've sampled some of the beautiful good girls and found that I'm just not up to bullshitting them about what they want in order to get what I want, which is nothing more than good sex when I want it. It's not fair to them or to me. I like to be alone 99% of the time. This means that I'm restricted to p4p while you have the benefit of your situation to enjoy a variety of good girls. Perhaps your girls are prettier than mine. I suppose they are. But I'm sure not complaining. I'm getting my share. :)
Old Thai Hand
07-31-08, 12:16
Actually, I believe we probably have much the same tastes. First and foremost, we both love beautiful women, and Thailand produces them in abundance. I've seen the photo's you post, and those women are very lovely indeed. But perhaps you forget that girls come to Pattaya from all over Thailand and I see many many light skinned beauties of the sort you and I prefer, both good girls and p4p. They are not all of the dark skinned monkey faced variety you deplore.
Where we differ, I think, is you want a girlfriend/wife, and I want to be free as the wind in the LOS. I've sampled some of the beautiful good girls and found that I'm just not up to bullshitting them about what they want in order to get what I want, which is nothing more than good sex when I want it. It's not fair to them or to me. I like to be alone 99% of the time. This means that I'm restricted to p4p while you have the benefit of your situation to enjoy a variety of good girls. Perhaps your girls are prettier than mine. I suppose they are. But I'm sure not complaining. I'm getting my share. :)
I'm just being a bit contankerous. Firstly, I don't hate Patts nearly as much as I make out. I don't think I could live there. But, it's good for the occasional weekend away with my buddies, just for something different. As far as my girls being prettier than yours...as a good friend of mine always says when I pontificate a little too much..."They're ALL fashion models in the dark". BTW, occasionally I like some earthy brown meat, instead of all that refined white meat, all the time, again for something different. The beauty is, one can have it all here.
final note on food: I wasn't suggesting that people are going to get sick on street food immediately. My issue with it is negatvie long-term health effects. I sat in a taxi today on Phetchaburi Road and watched as office people lined up for food that was being repeatedly belched on by an old bus. Just imagine the crap falling on all those moo ping on the grill.
But, then again, one could get murdered by the Russian mafia or run over by a baht bus tomorrow. And just breathing BKK air every day is probably slowly killing me. So, maybe I'll throw caution to the wind and go get some mango somtam ;), khanom jeen and a chunk of kai yang on soi 22 for dinner.
Daddy07,
Hmmm, I think I feel the irony in your words ... :)
Anyway, I tried to write my report as unbiased as possible - I never liked Pattaya, so I am biased, for sure.
I definitely find the providers quality low there, compared to Bangkok. This has a lot to do with the type of bars I visited, the way the girls are dressed, the way they behave, the way they carry themselves - not my thing. But - to each his own. There are obviously lots of customers which like this style…
Yeah, I appreciate that you were up front about your bias. And I hope that you will continue submitting reports about Pattaya and any other subjects you like. Your posts, though sometimes biased just like mine, are always interesting and informative.
Bangkok is a major world business center and huge cosmopolitan city. Pattaya is a resort destination by the sea. Pattaya caters to vacationing tourists while Bangkok is more oriented to the business crowd. So maybe the bar girls in Bangkok, especially on soi 33, will be found wearing cocktail dresses and high heel pumps, while the Pattaya bar princesses are mostly dressed in tight shorts, jeans, t-shirts, and tennis shoes. Perhaps the lounge ladies of BKK have better educations overall, better manners, and more sophistication in their behavior, but one thing is certain – they are all hookers and money is their primary motivation. They don’t like their johns any more, nor will their sexual performance be better, just because he’s a business man as opposed to a tourist or expat.
So the question for the monger – for me at least -- is whether the attractive Bangkok soi 33 bar hostess is worth 3 or 4 times the price of the pretty Pattaya go-go dancer for the same pop. Am I going to use my time chatting with her about free trade agreements and world politics before banging her doggy style, or will I be satisfied with whispering sweet nothings to each other before and during the lovemaking?
I’m biased too, and I’ve make my considered choice.
...Am I going to use my time chatting with her about free trade agreements and world politics before banging her doggy style, or will I be satisfied with whispering sweet nothings to each other before and during the lovemaking?
...Daddy07,
LOL, good one!
Bangkok is not only Soi 33.
If you expect that you can talk about "free trade agreements and world politics" with the girls here from Soi 33, only because they wear cocktail dresses - you will be surprised about the outcome. You will only see questionmarks in their eyes ("What the hell does this guy want from me? When will he talk business?" = Pay the bar fine and me and take me doggy style, that we get over it and I can go home to sleep!).
Anyway - your POV is absolutely understandable and ok for me.
Giotto
...("What the hell does this guy want from me? When will he talk business?" = Pay the bar fine and me and take me doggy style, that we get over it and I can go home to sleep!)...
Hilarious!!
And so universally true in both Bangkok and Pattaya! :D
LittleBigMan
08-01-08, 10:16
OTH,
I understand your point when it comes to food. For the longest of time when I was visiting Thailand I never touch the street food. But now that I'm living here longer I find it hard not to. Most of my wife close friends all make their living operating food stalls at our local market so it's kind of hard to refuse their offerings.
In the U.S. there are many pesticiles that are banded but as we become more of a global economy we are importing more products from all over the world and like many I wonder what does the U.S. make? I'm not surprise the last few years of lead problem from China, etc... and recently problems with contamination of fruits and vegetables like tomatoes in the U.S. In Thailand, in the local markets I see so many fruits and vegetables that look so fresh but I wonder how they are being grown? I could drive myself crazy thinking? of the what's and if's! but now that I'm living here what real choice do I have except to use my common sense and as my friends and family say to me daily " relax " but as each nights comes and I go to sleep I think about the cancer growing inside or the heart attack I'm about to have from all the shit that I'm eating. My dad died when he was 85 and he smoked 2 packs a day and drank, my mother is now 90 and going strong. I come from good genes but living here in Thailand if it's not the food, it's the lead coming from all the cheap pots and pans they use to cook their food in. If it's not this it's that!
Either way I'm here and making the best of it and thankfully from time to time I get to go out and get a good 2 hours oil massage with some action before I have to go home and clean house or pick up the kid. Here in Thailand waiting to die by what I'm not sure!
LBM
i think he meant the restaurant "chillis". none of those in pattaya. but there are a few steakhouses. closest you will get to "american' quisine will be mcdonalds, kfc and pizza hut (no dennys, outback, etc). just keep an open mind about the food. and try various eateries till you find what works for you.
as for the transportation. depends on where you will be staying. if you get a hotel anywhere on beach road or 3rd road, the baht bus will pretty much be all the transportation you need for mongering. if you plan on 'touring the countryside', all you need to rent a vehicle is your passport. but be forewarned. the police 'target' visitors and will fine you for the most minor of infractions (no helmet, seat belt, etc). also the parking is confusing at times (one side of the road on tue, thur, sun. etc). if you are hard-set on getting a vehicle for whatever reason, i would recommend 1-2 days at max.
as for being black. not really an issue there. skin color is a secondary (or tertiary) factor (first being money, second being age). if you are semi-attractive and young. (28 is considered young there), you will do fine. trust me.
for the water-activities. i have to agree with the other posters and advise against it. the water at pattaya bay/harbor is not akin to swimming/diving, etc. let me put it this way. i was on a ship that went to phuket (not pattaya, but i'm sure the policy is the same). well. thailand wanted to charge $20, 000/day to use their barge (for human waste and 'grey water' shower, sink, etc); but the fine to just 'pump it over the side' was $10, 000/day. so, guess what we did. and the ship was only like 2-3 miles off shore. so, its your decision, but i won't be going in the water close to the bay.
anywho. thats bout all the advise i can give. as for the gyms/whatnot. not sure on those, but if you search the forums, i am sure you can find some good gouge.
1. although all kinds of [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118) are freely available in pattaya, personally i would not want to swim in and around pattaya. the water here is quite dirty and polluted and there are much nicer places in thailand if that is your primary focus. you can take boat trips out to a couple of the islands off pattaya, where the water quality is better.
2. as thai learner said, if pattaya is your primary destination and this is your first visit, i would strongly advise against hiring a car here. traffic can be almost as busy as bangkok and cars drive on the left hand side here (some would argue the correct side! ) if you really want to get around with some freedom, hire a motorcycle. a scooter here will set you back around 1000 baht for one week and the machines are generally very new. it is a good way to explore pattaya by yourself and quite safe so long as you don't try to ride whislt drunk. if you go outside of pattaya in a car especially in and around bangkok, the roads can be very confusing even with a good map.
3. if you are renting a car then i would recommend an international licence. i don't know about the us but in the uk they are easy to get and cost very little. in thailand it is a requirement to have an international licence and whilst it is almost never going to be an issue with a motorcycle, if you get stopped on a freeway driving a car, the cops will expect you to have one, and you are likely to be fined if you don't.
4. the advice you have been given previously is correct. chillis are part of the staple diet here in thailand, you are about as likely to meet a restaraunt without chillis as you are to win the top prize in the national lottery.
5. you are completely safe here alone, in fact i feel much safer here than i do in many us and uk cities, even at night. like anywhere you need to exercise standard precautions but pattaya is very very safe.
6. there are many many gyms here. many of the larger 4 and 5 star hotels have fitness rooms and there are at least 10 hard core bodybuilding gyms in and around pattaya. just ask the hotel receptionist and th
ey will find the nearest one to wherever you want to stay. incidentally anabolic steroids of all descriptions are freely available from the pharmacies here, if that is your thing.
7. thai people can be funny when it comes to race. there has been much discussion about this subject on other threads in the thailand forum. where you do encounter racism it tends to be done very discreetly, for example a bar girl will say she is not feeling well rather than go with you. don't let this put you off though, the power of money here is all that matters and there are many people coming here from the middle east, so people are getting used to other races rather than just white farang. i have never seen any overt racism and it will not be a problem for you i am sure.
8. bangkok is interesting in its own right and i suggest you read the bkk thread.
9. virtually all hotels are girl friendly in pattaya and it simply would be commercial suicide for them here if they stopped being girl friendly.
Old Thai Hand
08-01-08, 10:59
Here in Thailand waiting to die by what I'm not sure!LBM
GAWD! Even I wasn't that grim. :)
I hope you're joking a little.
But, I will say that, the longer I live here the more aware I become of the dangers. You're right. If it's not this it's that. Thinking about it could drive you crazy. The lack of checks and balances and the overall unregulated chaos of Thailand, the thing that is often cited as one of the attractive features of the place is also the thing that could eventually do one in.
My current beef is with the healthcare in this country. I had knee surgery 4 1/2 months ago, have continued to have post-op problems and have finally been told by my usual doc at Bangkok Hospital that the surgeon at the hospital where I had it done botched the job. BTW, I didn't have the surgery at Bangkok Hospital as I wanted, because their prices for such things have become obscene since they expanded and started catering to rich arabs. The price I was quoted there was over twice as much as it would cost in the US ($11,000 here as opposed to $4500 in the US). Bumrungrad wasn't much better. My insurance simply didn't cover it and the university where I work forced me to have the surgery at the teaching hospital at the uni. It was not a great experience, all around. Even the nurses were ugly! :D
I realize of course that the botched job could happen in the States, too. But, there they have malpractice insurance. There's not much protection here. So, if there's some screw up by the doctor, you have little recourse. You could sue. But, even if you won, you'd likely end up with a paltry sum. The current payout for wrongful death is a pitiful 300,000 baht. So, what would a bad knee job be worth? maybe, 10,000 baht? :) Fortunately, I will eventually be ok. But, it's going to take at least a year and a strict regimin of diet, physio and exercise to get my leg back to normal.
If one thinks about this total lack of accountability in all aspects of living here, Thailand does become somewhat less attractive than it first appeared to be.
El Minetero
08-01-08, 12:46
Sorry if you didn't appreciate my satire. If you don't find it funny, don't laugh. It wasn't ironic or sarcastic so much as observational. Having eaten in open air restaurants along Beach Road, I have seen the residue on the table. I have seen the roasting chickens right next to Sukhumvit. One good thing is that for every one person that takes exception to my report, one hundred will see it and think twice about the source of their next meal. As Ayn Rand said in 'The Fountainhead', 'A man will eat the cleanest food possible'.
I am perhaps more cautious of dirt and microbes, but this doesn't deter me from kissing girls or sucking their poosies. I do like to shower with them so I can get a soapy finger up in that thang, not withstanding that I still have had the occasional throat irritation. But, a guy's gotta do what a guy's gotta do, and I gotta get down on that thang.
You may be right about seeking Psychiatric treatment, not so much about my style of writing as my 13 year residence here in Pattaya. I often ask myself, "What am I doing here in the Land Of Starfish? ".
Khun Talung
"That which does not KILL YOU makes you STRONGER!"
(in my best faux Gerrrman accent) :)
Actually, the places with very fast turn around or even cook it front of you have less likelihood of making you sick. I do seem to get a bit concerned with "dish washing" though (or rather "attempted dish washing" would be a better term)
mai ben rai
Fivebahtwiz
08-01-08, 20:32
i think he meant the restaurant "chillis". none of those in pattaya. but there are a few steakhouses. closest you will get to "american' quisine will be mcdonalds, kfc and pizza hut (no dennys, outback, etc). just keep an open mind about the food. and try various eateries till you find what works for you.i suggest trying bob's bbq for anyone looking for good food. he has got tex-mex, bbq, and a very good burger. the bonus is that bob's is located on soi lk metro next to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and near hell club so a hungry monger can be fully satisfied after a visit to this neighborhood.
Lover Boy #2
08-02-08, 09:35
These establishments have customers, Giotto, because men from certain countries, such as England, Germany, and the US do not have access to sex in their homelands. They come to Thailand and a few other destinations because these are the only places where they can have easy access to sex.
Germany....you must be joking?!?!?!?!? Why make a comment when you don't know what you are saying?
I'm just being a bit contankerous. Firstly, I don't hate Patts nearly as much as I make out. I don't think I could live there. But, it's good for the occasional weekend away with my buddies, just for something different. As far as my girls being prettier than yours...as a good friend of mine always says when I pontificate a little too much..."They're ALL fashion models in the dark". BTW, occasionally I like some earthy brown meat, instead of all that refined white meat, all the time, again for something different. The beauty is, one can have it all here.
final note on food: I wasn't suggesting that people are going to get sick on street food immediately. My issue with it is negatvie long-term health effects. I sat in a taxi today on Phetchaburi Road and watched as office people lined up for food that was being repeatedly belched on by an old bus. Just imagine the crap falling on all those moo ping on the grill.
But, then again, one could get murdered by the Russian mafia or run over by a baht bus tomorrow. And just breathing BKK air every day is probably slowly killing me. So, maybe I'll throw caution to the wind and go get some mango somtam ;), khanom jeen and a chunk of kai yang on soi 22 for dinner.
Well said! I am done mongering in Bangkok. It's overpriced, and you don't get the same service as you would from the girls in Pattaya. I live here, and instead of wasting my money in this horrid city I just get out once a month to Pattaya and pull girls there. The businessmen can have their overpriced *****s.
Cunning Stunt
08-03-08, 03:25
Germany....you must be joking?!?!?!?!? Why make a comment when you don't know what you are saying?
Agreed - why do some arseholes make such gratuitously stupid comments. There is certainly no requirement for Brits to visit LOS for P4P. There is an extremely active and competitively priced scene in UK, particularly in the MP sector. In the north you can easily find a beautiful and willing partner for an hour for 70-80 pounds. OK not exactly Pattaya prices but the quality is very high. Check out www.sandyssuperstars.com/.
Terry Terrier
08-03-08, 07:34
Agreed - why do some arseholes make such gratuitously stupid comments. There is certainly no requirement for Brits to visit LOS for P4P. There is an extremely active and competitively priced scene in UK, particularly in the MP sector. In the north you can easily find a beautiful and willing partner for an hour for 70-80 pounds. OK not exactly Pattaya prices but the quality is very high. Check out www.sandyssuperstars.com/.
Agreed also. A few of us have been trying to pump a bit of life into the Manchester UK Section of ISG over the last few months, and you are right in your suggestion that Brits don't have to travel abroad to get a decent P4P fuck at a relatively decent price, particularly in Manc. Btw, Sandys has it's merits (nice premises, decent-looking girls), but it's reputation is built mostly on an aggressive internet marketing campaign that would make Giotto proud, and it'll cost you £100 per hour (£50 for 30 minutes) for a basic, no extras (owo, etc) service.
Sorry for going off-topic. Just clarifying.
Lover Boy #2
08-03-08, 07:53
Here...try this place....the intensity of the sexual experience would rival Thailand any day of the week;
http://www.aboutus.org/Planet-Happy-Garden.info
....better sauna experience than is availalbe anywhere in Thailand....lounging on the lawn with semi-naked beauties in summer, legitimate business with health checks and licenses.....
(food, weather, cost of living.....all different stories...but that was not the subject)
Opebo....from reading your posts...better you stay in Thailand!!
P.S. The "gear" on those "Sandy's" girls would be very hard to beat. I always try to achieve that look when in Thailand by buying the gear for a long term keeper from a local lingerie shop......but they never seem to achieve the full look....and "keep the shoes on in bed" seems to bring a strange look in Asia...while in Germany it is expected!!
Cunning Stunt
08-03-08, 09:06
Agreed also. A few of us have been trying to pump a bit of life into the Manchester UK Section of ISG over the last few months, and you are right in your suggestion that Brits don't have to travel abroad to get a decent P4P fuck at a relatively decent price, particularly in Manc. Btw, Sandys has it's merits (nice premises, decent-looking girls), but it's reputation is built mostly on an aggressive internet marketing campaign that would make Giotto proud, and it'll cost you £100 per hour (£50 for 30 minutes) for a basic, no extras (owo, etc) service.
Sorry for going off-topic. Just clarifying.
Also sorry for the probable non relevance but its all mongering related. Agreed that Sandy's has a tremendous internet site and is slightly higher priced because of this but the quality of the surroundings and the pornstar/centrefold nature of the girls are second to none. I must admit I'm a big fan. Before I returned home to the Philippines from a visit to UK recently, I paid a visit and had an absolutely tremendous hour with a young Yorkshire blonde Minx called Kirsty, which was the equal or better than any ST experience in the Far East. For a bit cheaper but even more raunchy experience in less salubrious surroundings, I would recommend Arabesque in Bury (and also Bolton) and Executive Lounge on the other side of the Pennines in grotty Hull! Check out my reviews under the same handle on *********. I am a big adherent of the MP scene in UK where quality and vfm are second to none in the top parlours. Probably not as good (or as cheap) as a soapy/oily in Bangkok/Pattaya but not far off and a completely refreshing change.
P.S Sorry I'm not supposed to mention the top punter related site in UK although it has a completely different remit than this;)
There seem to be a recent increase in the number of crime related incidents involving fake Police Officers in Pattaya; this one is a lot more painful than some of the others. Ouch!
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Construction Worker shot in the groin by 4 men dresses as Police Officers.
In the early hours of Saturday Morning, Police Lieutenant Choosak from Banglamung Police Station made his way to a Constructors Campsite located near the train track in Naklua to investigate a shooting. Khun Surachai aged 28 was injured in the shooting and rushed to Hospital. Through the pain he was able to explain to Police that he was awoken by the sound of a Cockerel. He woke up and went to use the Toilet. On the way he spotted 4 men who were apparently wearing uniforms similar to Police Officers. One of the men approached Khun Surachai and told him to go back to bed as they were in the process of purchasing Yabba Tablets as part of an undercover Police operation. Khun Surachai was suspicious of the men and did not comply. One of them then produced a gun in anger and shot him in his groin area. Police confirmed that no such undercover operation was taking place in the area at the time and suspect the men were not Police Officers or volunteers, however all possible avenues of investigation are being explored at this time as Police hunt for the shooter and his accomplices.
Those low priced Freelancers/SW could end up costing a whole lot more than any overpriced go-go girl. These stories about Falangs being drugged by Freelancers are reported with some frequency but you have to wonder how many more are not reported. Frugal Mongers take note and be aware of who you are picking up, the 300b short time is not always 300b as you can see in this story below, be safe.
Most hotels in Pattaya require that the lady leave her Identification Card at the hotel desk, when she goes inside the room with her man.
A lot of farangs ignore this rule. And the hotel mangement often doesn't enforce it. But if you want to stay safe. Then make sure your lady leaves her ID at the hotel desk.
When other people know who she is. And the police can easily trace her. Then even the criminally inclined ladies probably won't try to take advantage of you.
All adult Thais are supposed to have this ID, which is issued by the Thai government. And virtually all Thais carry this ID with them. Because simply not having this ID can lead to arrest by Thai police.
When you take a lady from a beer-bar. Then perhaps you can ignore this rule about leaving the lady's ID at the hotel desk. Because people at the bar know who she is and how to find her. But when you take a lady from the Walking Street or the Beach Road. Then finding her in case of trouble is a lot harder. And with these ladies you definitely should insist that they leave their ID at the hotel desk.
But besides being drugged at your hotel room. There have been cases of farangs being drugged at large crowded disco places, such as Marine Disco and others. And the best way to avoid trouble there is to avoid drinking anything.
And I say this based on my own experience. A long time ago I was at one of those Disco places with a group of freelancers, whom I've known for a few days. I didn't think twice about accepting a drink from one of them. Because by then I knew them relatively well. And it turned out that they did put something in my drink.
I was fortunate enough not to pass out there. Perhaps they didn't put enough stuff in my drink. And after they got tired of waiting for me to pass out. We all went back to our usual bar. Where a short time later I did pass out. But they didn't take anything from me because of all the witnesses there.
I wasn't completely fortunate though. Because after that incident I felt sick for 2 or 3 days. This knock-out stuff they put in your drink is not good for you. And you can even die from it, if they happen to put too much of it in your drink.
White Whale
08-04-08, 08:17
It is based on the famous Beer Garden on Soi 7 in Bangkok. Apparently the opening night in Pattaya was a huge success. Read about it Pattaya Beer Garden (http://www.pattayabeergarden.com/).
EvilI visited the Beer Garden multiple times mid July. On low season it was disappointment. Absolutely no free lancers there and not that many customers either. It is good place to eat with nice ocean view if you already have company. It is good place to have a beer if you do not want any hassle from anybody. Including waitresses. I also liked their music video selection.
LittleBigMan
08-09-08, 01:05
OTH,
Back in the states for 2 months and I'm just getting over my jetlag. I didn't mean to sound so down but I had medical insurance all my life until the last 2 years. I do have a expat medical policy now but after all the research on medical coverage I'm not so sure how much it is going to cover if I ever get real sick.
I have always kept myself in real good shape but find myself now somewhat restricted particularly when I come back to the states. I have always enjoyed the snow and am a expert skier and can't even do that since I don't want to get hurt. The cost to go to the hospital just for a broken leg would take a big chuck from my savings since I don't get a pension right now. Your quote for a leg operation in the U.S. I'm not sure where that came from since I have had 2 knee operation in the past and that's when I had great insurance and I could tell you even then what the insurance company paid out to the doctor and hospital was way more than what you quoted and they were taking alot less than if a patient had no insurance. Example, just last summer I got a infection under my arm and I couldn't take the pain any longer. I was considering flying back to Bangkok to get it taken care of but in the end had to go to the general hospital to take care it. In the end I didn't qualify for general assistance because I had too much money in the bank so I had to pay full price for the service. Two thousand bucks! If I had insurance they would have gladly taken 500.00 from the insurance company. If I had it done in Bangkok or Pattaya it would have cost me maybe 3,000 baht.
After all my research I'm starting to feel that the medical services being raved about on 60 minutes is overblown! Some of these hospitals seem topush so hard to make money to pay for all the upgrades in the hospitals are making recommendations for operations and procedure when they are not necessary. Now living in Thailand I eat Thai nearly everyday and I understand what you are all saying about where the food comes from and how it might be prepare and it could drive one crazy and that's what it is doing to me maybe but I don't have much choice. How do you tell your wife not to use so many oil in their cooling? I just don't want to sleep with my 5 dogs that we have!
Good luck to all and enjoy the food and I'll just have to learn to relax more in the LOS!
LBM
I'm starting to feel that the medical services being raved about on 60 minutes is overblownThe "tourism" part of medical tourism to Thailand is fine. It's the "medical" part that has the problems.
.... How do you tell your wife not to use so many oil in their cooking? I just don't want to sleep with my 5 dogs that we have!
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I suggest you tell her that you like boiled food more than fried food. Boiling food does take a little more time and work. But she probably won't mind doing it, if you ask her nicely without criticising her cooking skills.
I've also had a problem with too much oil in my stir-fried food prepared by my Thai lady. So much oil doesn't taste good. And it is bad for your health.
But that's what you have to deal with when you choose your lady for her nice-looking body rather than for her good cooking skills.
LittleBigMan
08-09-08, 23:27
Dan7373,
Not her body but for her personalilty. She is a good cook but she isn't just cooking for me although I'm the only farang that is eating. She buys the proper cooking oil and the food taste so good but they seem to use so much of it when they cook. Have you ever seen how much oil is used to fry a egg?
It seems in the Thai culture asking nicely is exactly that, being critical! When it is my turn to cook I usually steam the vegetable but although I don't like my food too spicy I always spice it up with a small pepper and lots of garlic for the rest of the family. As for western food I use only olive oil. Basically it's a matter of education and working around the their style without unintentionally offending anyone.
LBM
Old Thai Hand
08-10-08, 03:38
OTH,
Your quote for a leg operation in the U.S. I'm not sure where that came from since I have had 2 knee operation in the past and that's when I had great insurance and I could tell you even then what the insurance company paid out to the doctor and hospital was way more than what you quoted and they were taking alot less than if a patient had no insurancethe LOS!
LBM
The operation I had was the same as the one Tiger Woods just had. It's fairly routine and doesn't require staying in the hospital in the US. But, I had to stay in for 2 days here. I got the US quote off the Internet. My sister has also had the same operation in Canada, as well as 2 knee replacements and she told me the 350,000 baht quote from Bangkok Hospital was obscene. Bumrungrad quoted 150-180,000 - basically the same as the US quote. I eventually had it done at a govt. hospital for 84,000 by supposedly the top ortho surgeon in Thailand. My leg hasn't been the same since and I've been in and out of hospital for the last 6 months.
Hummer Bird
08-10-08, 06:44
Has this forum gone to shit or what!!! leave the small talk to PM's and report useful information about chicks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eric Burden
08-10-08, 12:44
i have mongered a lot in asia and thailand but this is my first trip to pattaya. maybe my report will be of use to other first timers.
central pattaya (soi 7/8) seems to be more laid back and have less ladyboys than walking street. there are many, many beer bars and some go-gos. lots of ladies on beach road but i prefer the guarantee of a bar (not ladyboy, not ****, won't drug you or steal). i tried both beer bars and go-gos and both short time and long time. south pattaya/jomtien beach seems to be where the russians and middle-east people go.
girls - i was never disappointed with the performances of the girls, never had a problem, never had them try to leave early. i did find the quality of the bbbjs to be poor - shallow, not very long, rough. it seemd like the girls did not know how but thought they had to do it. one girl from a go-go was really good but she was an exception. the sex was good universally - multiple positions, full penetration, no complaining. overall, great sex but bjs weak.
fresh off the farm girls - it seems like there is a constant stream of girls coming to pattaya and many have only been here a few days and had a few customers. these girls are unspoiled, very sweet and gf, cuddle and hold you all night but of course they are inexperienced, especially with bjs.
i found all of the girls honest, clean and nice people. i do go for the clean look though - no tats, smoking piercing and stay away from the hardened looking ones.
prices seemed very standardized barfine at beer bar = 300bt, go-go=600bt. girls ask for 1000bt st and 2000lt but you can negotiate down. i found it a good idea to make friends with the mama-sans (buy her a drink) and ask for her advice. they want repeat customers and happy customers and will help you pick the right girl.
i found the beer bars not pushy. you have to buy a drink once in a while but the girls generally don't beg for drinks. beers go from 40-100bt depending on the place and kind of beer. lady drinks seemd to be about 110bt. the girls drink slow and don't pressure you. i never got ripped off.
pattaya is cheap. you can get a decent hotel for 1000bt and and all you can eat quality buffet for 200bt. you can have the hotel do your laundry for a few hundred baht. all day trip to coral isalnd including lunch is 350bt. you can get laid for 300bt from a beach road girl or 1300bt for a nice ber bar girl.
pattaya seemd like a great place for teh novice monger. cheap, safe, loads of girls, easy to get the girls, good sex.
eb
Eric Burden, thanks for your report - I was not aware that short times were being priced at 1,000 baht. In Pattaya I've only ever paid 500 per short time basic fee, not including tips for extra services.
In fact I had three in one day recently, and they were of interest: first I had a very good-looking busty twenty year old from the Beach Road. She refused to do blow job at all(!), and was so tight I could not enter her more than a few inches, accompanied by a litany of complaint "jep! jep!". By the way, Burden, you are right a good BJ is a rarity in Asia. Anyway I paid off this cutie at 300 baht, a 200 baht discount based on the fact that she could do nothing and no orgasm was achieved.
I then picked up a horrible old munter thinking therefore service would be good and I could have a good deep rough fuck. Alas this one turned out to be one of those rare crazy ones. I had a terrible feeling when she touched my head as we waited at the short time hotel desk. Brothers if any Thai girl touches your head, ditch her immediately. It is an insult. Upstairs this girl argued with me incessantly, provided a ridiculously bad BJ for an old bag, and when I jumped up to leave grabbed me by my boxers till I coughed up a few hundred baht. What a monster.
Finally I picked up an attractive old (but twenty-something) regular - they're getting rarer and rarer as the cops throw them in jail - and had a great BJ and intercourse for 500, finally achieving much needed release.
Interestingly all the girls said the cops were interfering a lot, particularly from 8:00 PM to midnight. Not many girls around. I almost resorted to going to bars but I couldn't really figure out which ones to go to - the idea of sitting for 15 minutes in a place where there are only 10 girls always seemed crazy to me.
Passepartout
08-10-08, 18:13
Dear all,
I am planning a trip to Thailand with some friends.
i Know the usual business here, but I am looking for 2 special things in Pattaya:
1. Where can I find russian babes in Bangkok...
2. Where can i find top models or top end thai girls...
Thanks for your help!
Has this forum gone to shit or what!!! leave the small talk to PM's and report useful information about chicks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!Hmm...
OK, go ahead, you start, write your report!
Giotto
Dear all,
I am planning a trip to Thailand with some friends.
i Know the usual business here, but I am looking for 2 special things in Pattaya:
1. Where can I find russian babes in Bangkok...
2. Where can i find top models or top end thai girls...
Thanks for your help!You can stay at HOTEL GRACE at Sukhumvit-4. You can get all the russian as well as Thai Models also. have a good trip to Thailand.
Twice Divorced
08-10-08, 21:22
Eric,
Thanks for the comments on Central Pattaya. I was in Pattaya back in May and pretty much limited my time to Walking Street. I will be returning in October and intend to branch out a bit to other parts (Soi's 2, 6, 7, 8), so any info on these areas is helpful to me.
Thanks
LittleBigMan
08-10-08, 22:33
Hummer Bird,
Cool your wings! You never know when you might trip, fall out of bed while you are getting a good or lousy BJ, or just running away from a ladyboy and break your leg or twist your knee and might just need medical service in Pattaya!
OTH, the price seems low! I've had to knee operations in the mid 80's and had a crack knee cap in the mid 90's and the bill then was way more than you quoted and I had medical insurance and what the hospital and doctors agree to accept was way more than that! I had 2 minor scope on the same knee a few years ago just to clean up the floating fragments and didn't even stay overnight. Operation room, the doctor's and nurses just to put me alsleep and to recover before I went home was over 10,000. To stay overnight in a hospital in the U.S. for 1 night is 10,000 U.S. But for the sake of Hummer Bird let just move on and respectfully agree to disagree! I just wish you the best on your recovery.
The problem I'm starting to find out as you indicated in Thailand concerning medical is that the life of a person isn't worth a hell of a lot. There are few consumer laws that are available or enforced. The best hospital are pushing services on farang that aren't really necessary so that they can pay for all the glitter they have build and are making rcommendations for unnecessary medical procedure. When hospitals are telling you that you can stay for 2 nights and get the 3rd one free something is really wrong! In the last 2 years when I was home in the states my wife had to check into the Bangkok/Pattaya hospital for a simple gas reflux problem. They had her stay overnight on both ocassions just for observation the cost was 18,000 baht to the hospital from the insurance company. When I came back this February I took the bill to the hospital adminitration and question them why she was required to stay overnight since she had no bleeding etc... and given no long term medication and education to prevent this from happening again in the future. Their lack of response was clear to me that the only reason stay overnight was so that the hospital can make money!
Although, Thailand medical services are much better than others country but if the government doesn't provide some strict regulations in the future you are going to see lots more abuse from these hospitals. The price you quoted in Thailand for a simple scope seems to be the norm from my research in Pattaya for the Bangkok/Pattaya hospital and in Siracha Hospital. The key as in your situation is finding a doctor that can explain the problem and procedure in proper english and doesn't screw up a simple procedure.
For the sake of Hummer Bird after this I'll move our conversation to the Living in Thailand thread.
LBM
...I almost resorted to going to bars but I couldn't really figure out which ones to go to - the idea of sitting for 15 minutes in a place where there are only 10 girls always seemed crazy to me.
When looking for a beer bar girl, the idea is to stroll slowly past the open air bars without sitting down, and thus commiting yourself, just looking for something friendly and cute.
When you find a likely prospect, (sometimes after checking out several bars and many areas), then you sit down to chat with her. If she's responsive to your interest and you like her, then you buy her a drink and begin negotiating terms.
If she agrees to suck your dick, but declines your more dangerous request for bare-back intercourse, only then must you decide whether the lass is worth your effort. :)
Sorry about your old hag experience. I stay away from them no matter what they promise to do. :D
Cunning Stunt
08-11-08, 09:30
Forgive me if I broach a subject that seems a little morbid but scanning through the back news reports on Pattaya One News, I was struck by the number of Falang suicides in the Pattaya area. Usually 1-2 a week (sometimes more) and most often by hanging, drugs overdose or somersault with pike and splat from a high building. Firstly I thought it must be high natural wastage amongst mongers as by default there are many fairly desperate, sad and vulnerable characters amongst the Pattaya expat crowd.
But the numbers are so high that I have started to think that there may be a rather more sinister motive behind these 'suicides' in that maybe that some are not as voluntary as first appears on the surface. We all know that life is pretty cheap in the LOS and for a few thousand baht it is easy, if you know the right people, to arrange a hit. And of course it is much less likely to attract police attention if its a 'suicide'.
Please tell me I'm being unduly paranoic but I suspect that assisted falang 'suicide' is rather more common in Thailand than the police would let on (not that they would be particularly concerned about the early demise of a few foreigners anyway).
Watch out for yourselves out there, lads.
You can stay at HOTEL GRACE at Sukhumvit-4. You can get all the russian as well as Thai Models also. have a good trip to Thailand.
Russian "models"? OK this must be irony.
Primo Bolan
08-11-08, 10:22
Forgive me if I broach a subject that seems a little morbid but scanning through the back news reports on Pattaya One News, I was struck by the number of Falang suicides in the Pattaya area. Usually 1-2 a week (sometimes more) and most often by hanging, drugs overdose or somersault with pike and splat from a high building. Firstly I thought it must be high natural wastage amongst mongers as by default there are many fairly desperate, sad and vulnerable characters amongst the Pattaya expat crowd.
But the numbers are so high that I have started to think that there may be a rather more sinister motive behind these 'suicides' in that maybe that some are not as voluntary as first appears on the surface. We all know that life is pretty cheap in the LOS and for a few thousand baht it is easy, if you know the right people, to arrange a hit. And of course it is much less likely to attract police attention if its a 'suicide'.
Please tell me I'm being unduly paranoic but I suspect that assisted falang 'suicide' is rather more common in Thailand than the police would let on (not that they would be particularly concerned about the early demise of a few foreigners anyway).
Watch out for yourselves out there, lads.Do you think its some kind of blackmailing involved?
Bargirls involved? Broken Heart?
I have also been struck by the numbers of so called suicide by farangs in the Pattaya news.
http://www.pattayaone.net/news_25_07_51_2.html
Please tell me I'm being unduly paranoic but I suspect that assisted falang 'suicide' is rather more common in Thailand than the police would let on.
I'm afraid you're being completely realistic. Unless the police have reason to believe these things aren't suicides, e.g. someone raising a fuss and publicly demanding an investigation, they're hardly about to increase their workload. 'Suicide' is the easiest option for everyone.
But the numbers are so high that I have started to think that there may be a rather more sinister motive behind these 'suicides' in that maybe that some are not as voluntary as first appears on the surface.
What's your definition of high? Try comparing the number of suicides with the actual number of foreign residents/visitors in Pattaya and these suicide and suspicious deaths rates have more to do with availability bias than being high. The police may not want to intentionally suppress the suicide numbers; they just don't seem to care much. However, with their limited recourses and attitude towards some foreigners no one should expend them to conduct any type of extensive investigation into a Falang’s death. Aside from their character or lack of character, these deaths do seem to be connected in some way their relationship with these sweet or not so sweet young things these guys thought they had only to discover the truth later.
Jimmy Red Cab
08-11-08, 21:46
Dear all,
I am planning a trip to Thailand with some friends.
1. Where can I find russian babes in Bangkok...
Thanks for your help!
CM2 nightclub in the Novotel Hotel on Siam Square, expect to pay 5000 baht upwards depending on the quality of the girl and the time of night.
CM2 nightclub in the Novotel Hotel on Siam Square, expect to pay 5000 baht upwards depending on the quality of the girl and the time of night.Why go to Thailand to find ruusian girls?Go to Russia, Ukraine ets.
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