Pattaya Reports

[Mr Enternational]

Fellow Forum Members, I just found out that I will need to be in Pattaya for a friend's bachelor party on 30 May 2011 to 2 Jun 2011. The problem is my flight from Malaysia will land in Bangkok International Airport around 6. 55pm. I wanted to book a seat on the BELL bus but their timetable indicated that the last bus leave Bangkok Int Airport for Pattaya at 6pm.

Is there an alternative bus service (similar to BELL where they deliver you to your hotel) that I can consider? There are no more buses after that hour. You will have to go upstairs and outside to get a taxi for 1000 baht + 60 baht tolls.

[Mr Enternational]

I went to visit a friend who works a legitimate job on Soi 6 yesterday. I told her that I was going to leave and get a massage. She recommended a place there on Soi 6. I went and had a great head and shoulders for 200 baht. What didn't sit well with me was that usually when I get head and shoulders it is done right in the main room with all the chairs. However, for this I was guided upstairs to the massage mattresses. The girl went through the routine of a full body massage although more gentle than a thai massage. To make a short story even shorter, after the massage I got FS for 500 baht. She tried to get 1000 out of me but that wasn't happening. When I showed her the 500 baht bill it was all systems go. I shall return if for nothing but the massage itself.

[GreenBud]

Fellow Forum Members, I just found out that I will need to be in Pattaya for a friend's bachelor party on 30 May 2011 to 2 Jun 2011. The problem is my flight from Malaysia will land in Bangkok International Airport around 6. 55pm. I wanted to book a seat on the BELL bus but their timetable indicated that the last bus leave Bangkok Int Airport for Pattaya at 6pm.

Is there an alternative bus service (similar to BELL where they deliver you to your hotel) that I can consider?

I hope to hear from you soon.

Thanks & RegardsThere is a government bus service whose last bus leaves at 9 PM (during last high season; is it still the same?).

It doesn't drop you off at your hotel, but it leaves you on the main road. There will be songthaews at those stops which will offer you to take you straight to your hotel. Cheaper option will be to hop on a public songthaew traveling in a loop.

[GreenBud]

hi all. i'm making my first trip to south east asia, planning to spend 1 week in pattaya and 1 week in phillipines (manila and / or cebu). i will be working remotely and need a reliable internet connection. is this realistic is these places? i'm thinking / hoping the higher-end hotels will have such things.you will have no problem with internet connections. speed is usually around 200 something kbits.

reliability depends on the hotel. at some hotels, there are more internet drop-outs (where connection is lost for 10 to 20 seconds). it will be reliable enough for stock trading, but internet poker might have trouble.


is there any issue with trading stocks on the us market from foreign countries.absolutely no problems.


i take the time to go the internet shop that i have been using for a number of years. i look for a clean place with updated software protection on their computers to check into my accounts and do transaction.if i was a crook, i would also look for those type of places to put my trojan horse to capture your logins and passwords.

previous user might have gone to a dangerous site.

i don't trust those public internet cafes; they probably have pirated software which might not offer all the protection possible.

i know i'm being paranoid. that's why i bring my laptop to log into my financial sites.

[Bloodstock]

Hey folks!

It's been some time since I last visited Pattaya now, but returning in about a month or so now. I'm curious about what ST / LT I should aim at when hunting in places like Insomnia and Lucifer.

Also, are there some sort of SOL (BKK) type of establishment in Pattaya? If so, what's the name of it / them and where are they located?

Thanks in advance!

[Mr Enternational]

it's been some time since i last visited pattaya now, but returning in about a month or so now. i'm curious about what st / lt i should aim at when hunting in places like insomnia and lucifer.

also, are there some sort of sol (bkk) type of establishment in pattaya? if so, what's the name of it / them and where are they located? disco lt still 1000 baht normally. don't really know if st exists. it's hard enough getting them away for lt as many times you get excuses of wanting to stay and party with friends or wanting to go to next disco with friends. after they get all dolled up i doubt if they want to go back to your place, take a shower, fuck, have to take another shower, and get all dolled up again for anything less than 1000 baht, which is what lt would be anyway.

bj bars here are:

1. [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s - soi lk metro, off soi diana inn. 800 baht.

2. pump station - soi post office (soi 13/2 off beach road) 700 baht, and

3. bliss - sai 3 (3rd road & soi 18 in front of xzyte disco. 600 baht.

probably good to do a bj bar once for the novelty, but let's face it, you can get fs from a beach road girl for 500 (many cases 300 or 400) + 100 for short time room.

[Keeniu]

There is a government bus service whose last bus leaves at 9 PM (during last high season; is it still the same?).

It doesn't drop you off at your hotel, but it leaves you on the main road. There will be songthaews at those stops which will offer you to take you straight to your hotel. Cheaper option will be to hop on a public songthaew traveling in a loop.Warning: At night is it not clear where you are stopping, and the songthaews want min 300 bt, taxi's more.

Know where your hotel is, and where the. Gov bus stops. At 11pm a farang is going to be ripped off badly, especially if they see a suitcase.

[Rocksoff]

2. Pump Station - Soi Post Office (Soi 13/2 off Beach Road) 700 baht,Don't dismiss the other tawdry bars, I regularly get BJ for 650 at Golden Girls in that soi.

Oh, and Lick Bar in soi 6, for 700 baht. If you're not shy.

[Rocksoff]

1. [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. soi lk metro, off soi diana inn. 800 baht.

2. pump station. soi post office (soi 13/2 off beach road) 700 bahtisn't it the other way round? 700 at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s.

[Mr Enternational]

isn't it the other way round? 700 at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s.could be. maybe i'm getting it mixed up with kangaroo in bkk patpong.

[Brasillee]

I just spent three months in Pattaya resently. I spent a lot of time at the local discoteques such as Lucifer. I must tell you that it really depends on what sort of person you are, how you look, and how good your game is. If you speak a little thai. That would help as well. Speaking for myself, I never spent anymore than one thousand baht for long time and five hundred baht for short time. I never took any short time out of Lucifers and Mixx, etc, only long time. If the girls like you they will go with you for the price that you offer. My suggestion is for you to look for the girls who are interested in you and stay away from the girls that you have to run after. A good six, seven, or eight, is better than a problem nine or ten. I have been going to Thailand since two thousand so I am not new to the game there and in other countries. It is pretty much the same. Hope I helped you with your question.


Hey folks!

It's been some time since I last visited Pattaya now, but returning in about a month or so now. I'm curious about what ST / LT I should aim at when hunting in places like Insomnia and Lucifer.

Also, are there some sort of SOL (BKK) type of establishment in Pattaya? If so, what's the name of it / them and where are they located?

Thanks in advance!

[Pana Nyc]

When I was in Lucifers, Mix, and Insomnia back in February I had girls coming up to me asking to be with me for LT man it was hard getting rid of them because they wanted to spend the whole day with after spending the the night. After I dismissed them with 1000THB-1200THB they said "Khob-Kun" and bowed their head. LOL. As we know all our experiences will not be the same on trips because the way we look, act, how in shape we in. Etc.


Hey folks!

It's been some time since I last visited Pattaya now, but returning in about a month or so now. I'm curious about what ST / LT I should aim at when hunting in places like Insomnia and Lucifer.

[Bloodstock]

thanks to mr enternational, rocksoff, brasillee and pana nyc for the replies!

mr enternational: of course! especially when staying late partying at these places i can't see the girl heading back afterwards. so lt it is =) as for the places you mention. these are really just for bjs though right? i was thinking more in the line of possibilities for mer "open" sex (not just bjs) like sol offers. are there any such place in pattaya?

rocksoff: this lick bar, what makes it special? care to do a quick rundown for me? would be appreciated =)

brasillee: thanks for your input! i believe i should be at least rather well off in that department. while my thai skills are lousy (only knowing certain words and phrases) , i'm in my early 30s and don't believe i look too bad. i've been to insomnia and lucifer before, although last time i spent more or less my entire vacation with two (regular) chicks i met in bkk that also followed me to pattaya. quite neat actually. fucked them both, we all split money for food, etc. but i believe the disco-scene with places like climax / insomnia / bossy etc in bkk and insomnia / lucifer cater more to my needs than beer bars and go-go's.

pana nyc: haha, i hear you! i guess it would depend on the girl, why'know? sometimes you just want to get laid. while other times i would definately not mind hooking up with them the day afterwards. or longer for that matter. if you're having a good time, why not? =)


disco lt still 1000 baht normally. don't really know if st exists. it's hard enough getting them away for lt as many times you get excuses of wanting to stay and party with friends or wanting to go to next disco with friends. after they get all dolled up i doubt if they want to go back to your place, take a shower, fuck, have to take another shower, and get all dolled up again for anything less than 1000 baht, which is what lt would be anyway.

bj bars here are:

1. [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. soi lk metro, off soi diana inn. 800 baht.

2. pump station. soi post office (soi 13/2 off beach road) 700 baht, and

3. bliss. sai 3 (3rd road & soi 18 in front of xzyte disco. 600 baht.

probably good to do a bj bar once for the novelty, but let's face it, you can get fs from a beach road girl for 500 (many cases 300 or 400) + 100 for short time room.

[Siam Dreamer]

I never took any short time out of Lucifers and Mixx, etc, only long time. If the girls like you they will go with you for the price that you offer. My suggestion is for you to look for the girls who are interested in you and stay away from the girls that you have to run after. A good six, seven, or eight, is better than a problem nine or ten.Most excellent advice bruh. This has been my experience also. In Bangkok, Pattaya, and Phuket (Patong Beach). If you find that you are spending a lot of time (more than 3 minutes) and effort (more than 1 drink) trying to get the girl to to like you or go with you. Its not a good sign. It's not necessary in Thailand because there are so many other women to move on to. The numbers of women are totally in your favor. If you come correct, and your game is halfway on point, you will have no problem easily pulling the women you like / want.

Also. Staying at a decent hotel helps. Almost every chick I hooked up with in Thailand always asked me what hotel I was staying at staying before we rolled out. Not necessarily expensive hotels. But name recognition. Well known multinational asian or western hotel brands.

[Normad2020]

Thanks Mr E. It looks like the taxi service is a better bet after the BELL alternative. So I will most probably get into Pattaya around 9pm and check into Pasadena Lodge. Hopefully can make X-Zone by 11pm as the guys will be meeting there for the first bachelor party. LOL.

Next day we planned to present a duo package from DD for the guy who will be getting married on 18 June 2011. Maybe after the "double sexperience" he might change his mind.

Cheers.


There are no more buses after that hour. You will have to go upstairs and outside to get a taxi for 1000 baht + 60 baht tolls.

[Zona12]

I'm not a expert on computers, I also have a Charles Schwab and Fidelity accounts and although I have access to secure WIFI? I never do any banking on WIFI, instead I take the time to go the Internet shop that I have been using for a number of years. I look for a clean place with updated software protection on their computers to check into my accounts and do transaction. Like C. S. I just log in with my S. S and PW here and view my do my transaction I have never been denied access to my account because I'm here in Thailand. Whenever I'm done I erase everything that I have done?

LBMThere are lots of keylogger programs that will catch your key inputs even though the machine might be updated. Watch your account activity and change your password often.

[Rocksoff]

As for the places you mention. These are really just for BJs though right?Last time I was at Golden Girl she had a hangover and preferred to lie back and get fucked. Same price,"only for you".

All the other places I believe FS means adding 300 or 400 to the price for a BJ.


This Lick Bar, what makes it special?It's just a Soi 6 bar that's good & naughty, downstairs and up, though you have to go upstairs for FS.

But the bar is as fun as the girl you're with, you may find the one who does it for you in any of the bars. There's a much more demure bar in that soi where there is a girl I always buy a drink for. She gets me hard and keeps me hard for as long as I want to sit there, but won't get me off downstairs.

[LittleBigMan]

There are lots of keylogger programs that will catch your key inputs even though the machine might be updated. Watch your account activity and change your password often.Thanks for the tip, The place I use I have never had a problem but that doesn't mean it can't happen? So as you noted I change the password each time after I go into the account since I was told the same advice given by you by another friend. Not only that now when I go I bring my own laptop.

LBM

[David 2]

Thanks Mr E. It looks like the taxi service is a better bet after the BELL alternative.I took a taxi from the airport to Pattaya the first time I went (about 3 years ago) and the price was one thousand baht plus tolls, but the taxi was old and creaky, and the driver couldn't find my hotel. We drove around Pattaya for more than an hour trying to locate it, while I baked in the back seat of a tiny, dirty, smelly, hot taxi.

Since then I have been using VR Pattaya Taxi which actually charges the same amount, but doesn't charge extra for the tolls. The driver will be waiting for you at the ariport with your name on a sign, with a clean, modern, dependable car, and he knows your destination in advance. I've used them over a dozen times, and most of the drivers don't speak a word of English, but that's turned out to be an advantage. There's no small talk on the 90 minute ride to Pattaya. You can have a nice nap in the back seat without worrying that your old cab might break down somewhere in the middle of nowhere. Highly recommended.

http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/

[Orange Crust]

Most excellent advice bruh. This has been my experience also. In Bangkok, Pattaya, and Phuket (Patong Beach). If you find that you are spending a lot of time (more than 3 minutes) and effort (more than 1 drink) trying to get the girl to to like you or go with you. Its not a good sign. It's not necessary in Thailand because there are so many other women to move on to. The numbers of women are totally in your favor. If you come correct, and your game is halfway on point, you will have no problem easily pulling the women you like / want.

Also. Staying at a decent hotel helps. Almost every chick I hooked up with in Thailand always asked me what hotel I was staying at staying before we rolled out. Not necessarily expensive hotels. But name recognition. Well known multinational asian or western hotel brands. The other thing I experienced is that it's fun to secure a LT girl at the bar and join in the at their table. I've had a lot of fun with my newly acquired girl and her friends for even a hour or two after agreeing to a deal. Often even grabbing some grub on the street after leaving the bar with the group of girls. Sure it cuts into the play time but damn, it feels like travelling with your own entourage. Where else can you experience that? Strange how readily you are accepted just because you are the next meal ticket.

[Normad2020]

Thanks David 2 for the pointer. Will check their website and make the necessary arrangement.

Cheers.


I took a taxi from the airport to Pattaya the first time I went (about 3 years ago) and the price was one thousand baht plus tolls, but the taxi was old and creaky, and the driver couldn't find my hotel. We drove around Pattaya for more than an hour trying to locate it, while I baked in the back seat of a tiny, dirty, smelly, hot taxi.

Since then I have been using VR Pattaya Taxi which actually charges the same amount, but doesn't charge extra for the tolls. The driver will be waiting for you at the ariport with your name on a sign, with a clean, modern, dependable car, and he knows your destination in advance. I've used them over a dozen times, and most of the drivers don't speak a word of English, but that's turned out to be an advantage. There's no small talk on the 90 minute ride to Pattaya. You can have a nice nap in the back seat without worrying that your old cab might break down somewhere in the middle of nowhere. Highly recommended.

http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/

[Dickhead]

Take the bus from BKK to Pattaya. Much cheaper, much safer, much more comfortable. The Pattaya station is at the edge of town and you can then get a baht bus to your hotel, right from the station. Plus, they start selling beer about five minutes before the bus leaves, and you can drink on the bus. Also, because you are sitting up higher with bigger windows, it's a lot easier to look at the scenery. Although, the scenery is quite unimpressive for the most part.

[BeaverHunter]

Thanks David 2 for the pointer. Will check their website and make the necessary arrangement.

Cheers. Just used their service 2 days ago very reliable.

Beaverhunter

[Daddy07]

There are a lot of things I like about Thailand, which is why I chose to live here, but the Gestapo tactics by Thai police always make me cringe. I'll never get used to it.

Here's another story about Pattaya police setting up arbitrary check points, stopping vehicles for no reason, conducting random searches, forced breathalyzer tests, drug tests, and even body searches, all without probable cause:

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/05/19/police-set-up-random-breathalyser-body-search-and-drug-test/

[Butter69]

Hi, I recommend visiting the chilli bar on soi 6.

Some cute girls there.

I had 2 very good short times with a girl that had a small toned body and lovely firm breasts. At first I thought they were a silicone pair, but they weren't. All natural.

So if you're into small girls with a good firm rack, check it out. She also gives very good BJ.

Paid 700 for her. 300 for the room, and also a 100 tip for doing a great job

[Maa Paa]

There are a lot of things I like about Thailand, which is why I chose to live here, but the Gestapo tactics by Thai police always make me cringe. I'll never get used to it.

Here's another story about Pattaya police setting up arbitrary check points, stopping vehicles for no reason, conducting random searches, forced breathalyzer tests, drug tests, and even body searches, all without probable cause:

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/05/19/police-set-up-random-breathalyser-body-search-and-drug-test/What is wrong with it?

Would you like to see an anouncement in the newspaper? Or receive massage on your phone? ("Today at wx:yz am / pm we will set a police checkpoint exactly here or there.")

Stopping for no reason? We are not the one to judge if there is a reason or not!

One reason could be to make clear that nobody at no place can be sure not to run in one of those checkpoints.

If you are sober (drugs or alc). You won't have any trouble. That's it. Quite easy.

Maa Paa

(from Germany. Used to this kind of controls. But now living in Thailand and still waiting for the police to act much more strictly!)

[Daddy07]

What is wrong with it?

Would you like to see an anouncement in the newspaper? Or receive massage on your phone? ("Today at wx:yz am / pm we will set a police checkpoint exactly here or there.")

Stopping for no reason? We are not the one to judge if there is a reason or not!

One reason could be to make clear that nobody at no place can be sure not to run in one of those checkpoints.

If you are sober (drugs or alc). You won't have any trouble. That's it. Quite easy.

Maa Paa

(from Germany. Used to this kind of controls. But now living in Thailand and still waiting for the police to act much more strictly!) Just curious, Maa Paa; what part of Germany are you from? East Germany?

[Bloodstock]

Did you get her name? .


Hi, I recommend visiting the chilli bar on soi 6.

Some cute girls there.

I had 2 very good short times with a girl that had a small toned body and lovely firm breasts. At first I thought they were a silicone pair, but they weren't. All natural.

So if you're into small girls with a good firm rack, check it out. She also gives very good BJ.

Paid 700 for her. 300 for the room, and also a 100 tip for doing a great job

[Member #4698]

There are a lot of things I like about Thailand, which is why I chose to live here, but the Gestapo tactics by Thai police always make me cringe. I'll never get used to it.

Here's another story about Pattaya police setting up arbitrary check points, stopping vehicles for no reason, conducting random searches, forced breathalyzer tests, drug tests, and even body searches, all without probable cause:

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/05/19/police-set-up-random-breathalyser-body-search-and-drug-test/It makes me cringe too. I don't like it. I am on vacation. I don't want to be on my guard looking over my shoulder at the cops. These tactics are used all the time in large American cities. A lot of good it does. So this is nothing new. Just accept the fact that Thailand is not a good place to smoke weed or partake in other drugs. Yeah, I know it is available especially on the southern islands and Pai, but thanks, no thanks. Also there are plenty of shills that offer drugs on Beach Road, Pattaya. Does anybody think they are selling quality product or the cops aren't aware of these guys? My advice is forgetaboutit and concentrate on the women.

[Maa Paa]

Just curious, Maa Paa; what part of Germany are you from? East Germany?No, born is West Germany, ever been living there, no relatives in the "East".

Normally I don't like to judge people in general. But quite easy for me to say: "I don't like East German people's attitude."

About 22 years ago they seemed to be happy about the wall coming down. But a couple of years later they already began to complain about nearly everything. Impossible for me to like this.

Nearly the same behaviour as many farangs (I am one, too) here in Thailand: Always and only complaining complaining complaining.

Why don't those people move to Russia or another country in Asia? Is Germany after the reunion or Thailand really so bad?

No, it is not!

But what does your question have in common with my answer?

I didn't try to open your profile, sorry. Are you from the former East Germany?

Maa Paa

[Butter69]

Did you get her name? .I can't remember her name anymore. Sorry.

I'm also not in Thailand anymore, so unfortunately can't go back for more fun with her. But she is easy to find in that bar. The girls will all be sitting outside hoping to get you in.

[Mr Enternational]

There are a lot of things I like about Thailand, which is why I chose to live here, but the Gestapo tactics by Thai police always make me cringe. I'll never get used to it.

Here's another story about Pattaya police setting up arbitrary check points, stopping vehicles for no reason, conducting random searches, forced breathalyzer tests, drug tests, and even body searches, all without probable cause:

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/05/19/police-set-up-random-breathalyser-body-search-and-drug-test/They have had one set up on my street off 3rd Road looks like every other day, but during daylight hours. Fortunately they have not pulled me over. A few nights ago I saw a group of about 12 teenagers spray painting a wall that is part of some relatively new townhomes. Two were doing the actual work and about 10 were looking on. They were taking their time and in no hurry as if they were at a picnic or barbeque. Where was the police then?

[LittleBigMan]

There are a lot of things I like about Thailand, which is why I chose to live here, but the Gestapo tactics by Thai police always make me cringe. I'll never get used to it.

Here's another story about Pattaya police setting up arbitrary check points, stopping vehicles for no reason, conducting random searches, forced breathalyzer tests, drug tests, and even body searches, all without probable cause:

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/05/19/police-set-up-random-breathalyser-body-search-and-drug-test/Damn Daddy07,

Can't leave you alone for a minute! This wasn't the night I left you alone with that cat like smile while you lap dance that young cutie. Once again you shouldn't have given up on your Thai language.

Can't you read the papers they are doing crackdowns since so many bad things are being written about them doing nothing. So instead of really doing something they are compaigning this month since they got some fresh new money to waste. There are sign all over Pattaya with police officier picture trying to educate everyone to not drink and drive, wear your helmet etc.

Today, got stop on the darkside on Siam Country Road. On the railroad tracks. Pull me over spoke to me in Thai, I spoke back. Told him who I was and where from. He was impressed. Ask me for my license and he told me that it was only for car. I pulled out my International which was expired told him I can drive motorbike, fly airplane, drive bus and tractor traiter. Here is my insurance paper, registration, passport with visa stamp and personal card from the Attorney General of Thailand for the corruption against Expat. I basically kiss his ass every which way telling him that his English was very good and that I was impress. I think he wanted to be my friend and have a drink but I said I was a family man and didn't go out much.

I told you before. Take the Songthaw down to W. S. When white guys like you go home late at night. You standout like a fresh lightbulb calling out stop me please!

LBM

[Daddy07]

...I basically kiss his ass every which way telling him that his English was very good and that I was impress. I think he wanted to be my friend and have a drink but I said I was a family man and didn't go out much...After you kissed his ass every whch way, what did he have you do next? :D

[Bunky]

Fifty percent of the cabs in and around Sukhumvit will do the same run for the same price. Just wave down a taxi and tell him your price. Easy enough.True. But I was staying at the Millennium Grand Hotel, which does not permit taxis to line up at the entrance. I could have walked out the front door to Asok and hailed a taxi at the curb, of course. But it was nice to have one waiting. As I was settling my bill in the club lounge, I got a call saying my driver had arrived and he was standing by at the rear entrance. By the time I got downstairs the bellman had loaded the luggage and I was on my way. Very, very civilized.

Bunky

[Kim Wheather]

I will be in Pattaya about 10 days. Can someone say anything about how Pattaya is right now? Are there many tourists? Are there many working-girls as it was in December? And how about the on-going prices right now? Is it possible to negotiate the prices as it is low-season now?

Thanks in advance.

[New Old Guy]

I will be in Pattaya about 10 days. Can someone say anything about how Pattaya is right now? Are there many tourists? Are there many working-girls as it was in December? And how about the on-going prices right now? Is it possible to negotiate the prices as it is low-season now?

Thanks in advance. I've been in Pattaya during any time of the year. The difference, if any, is barely noticeable. Don't think too much and enjoy.

[LittleBigMan]

After you kissed his ass every whch way, what did he have you do next? :DThe answer is right there? See what I'm saying about getting old!

LBM

[Koolshot737]

Yesterday I was not allowed inside Farenheit as I am Indian. Could anybody help me with the contacts of the Manager or Mamasan.

I have not faced such a situation in Baccara, Cavern, Living Dolls etc. I know some of the Managers and owners of these clubs personally such as Mac of Baccara, Peter of Super Girl (Soi Diamond) , Ler of Silver Star etc. Even in next door Alcatraz, I did not have any problem.

I will appreciate a quick response as I have only one more night today. If any one wishes to join me, you are welcome.

Regards.

KOOL

[New Old Guy]

Yesterday I was not allowed inside Farenheit as I am Indian. Could anybody help me with the contacts of the Manager or Mamasan.

I have not faced such a situation in Baccara, Cavern, Living Dolls etc. I know some of the Managers and owners of these clubs personally such as Mac of Baccara, Peter of Super Girl (Soi Diamond) , Ler of Silver Star etc. Even in next door Alcatraz, I did not have any problem.

I will appreciate a quick response as I have only one more night today. If any one wishes to join me, you are welcome.

Regards.

KOOLKS, call it a write-off and move on. You will get nothing but more aggravation by talking to the owners. Would you get relieved by calling them names and the fucking racists they are? Save your energy and rage for something more important.

Pattaya / Thailan / The World has a lot of injustice, just find a woman you like, fuck the shit out of her brain, move to the next, and enjoy.

[Jessee 009]

KS, call it a write-off and move on. You will get nothing but more aggravation by talking to the owners. Would you get relieved by calling them names and the fucking racists they are? Save your energy and rage for something more important.

Pattaya / Thailan / The World has a lot of injustice, just find a woman you like, fuck the shit out of her brain, move to the next, and enjoy. Well said, New Old Guy.

[Deori]

Hey guys, I've got a newbie question for you. I just came from San Jose CR and plan on being in Pattaya in a few weeks. While I know the two towns can't compare, there was NOTHING to do in San Jose other than the girls. I know what forum I'm on but are there other things to keep busy with besides the girls or is that pretty much it? Maybe it was also worse in SJ because you get a quick pop and then they're off so you're left alone with nothing to do but recharge for the next one whereas it seems like in Patts sometimes the problem is getting them to leave haha. Thanks guys!

[Edward M]

Hey guys, I've got a newbie question for you. I just came from San Jose CR and plan on being in Pattaya in a few weeks. While I know the two towns can't compare, there was NOTHING to do in San Jose other than the girls. I know what forum I'm on but are there other things to keep busy with besides the girls or is that pretty much it? Maybe it was also worse in SJ because you get a quick pop and then they're off so you're left alone with nothing to do but recharge for the next one whereas it seems like in Patts sometimes the problem is getting them to leave haha. Thanks guys!There is plenty to do in Pats. You can go to the beach, watch the shows in gogos, go to a Muay Thai fight, windsurf, rent a scooter or bicycle, go to Koh Larn, go to the elephant farm, eat world class cuisine. Some of the beer bars are run by Australians and you can hang out all day drinking with them. Many girls will be happy to be your guides and take you around to these sites. Sadly it is not advised to rent a jet ski.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hey guys, I've got a newbie question for you. I just came from San Jose CR and plan on being in Pattaya in a few weeks. While I know the two towns can't compare, there was NOTHING to do in San Jose other than the girls. I know what forum I'm on but are there other things to keep busy with besides the girls or is that pretty much it? Maybe it was also worse in SJ because you get a quick pop and then they're off so you're left alone with nothing to do but recharge for the next one whereas it seems like in Patts sometimes the problem is getting them to leave haha. Thanks guys!To Derori,

I been to San jose a few time and I go to Pattaya 2 time a yr, mongering is much better in Pattaya but there are more thing to do in San Jose you can go to the casino to play poker or take a eco tour, it is very beautiful place you just need to get out of the city go to some of the national park and beach in CR.

Fast Eddie 48

[Lexb]

http://www.pattayapark.com/waterpark.html


Hey guys, I've got a newbie question for you. I just came from San Jose CR and plan on being in Pattaya in a few weeks. While I know the two towns can't compare, there was NOTHING to do in San Jose other than the girls. I know what forum I'm on but are there other things to keep busy with besides the girls or is that pretty much it? Maybe it was also worse in SJ because you get a quick pop and then they're off so you're left alone with nothing to do but recharge for the next one whereas it seems like in Patts sometimes the problem is getting them to leave haha. Thanks guys!But, IMO, better to bring a "date", so to speak, when you go, just be prepared to buy her a swimsuit, first!

Only "caveat". DON'T let your date catch you "ogling" at the Russian girls and women who look SO FINE in their skimpy thong bikinis!

[Bloodstock]

I plan on doing this: http://www.treetopasia.com/ On my next trip to Pattaya now in June =)


Hey guys, I've got a newbie question for you. I just came from San Jose CR and plan on being in Pattaya in a few weeks. While I know the two towns can't compare, there was NOTHING to do in San Jose other than the girls. I know what forum I'm on but are there other things to keep busy with besides the girls or is that pretty much it? Maybe it was also worse in SJ because you get a quick pop and then they're off so you're left alone with nothing to do but recharge for the next one whereas it seems like in Patts sometimes the problem is getting them to leave haha. Thanks guys!

[Koolshot737]

Well said, New Old Guy.Well, I don't give up so easily. Finally got access to the club through a manager friend of another club. The club has definitely some good girls. Bar fine 600 THB. ST 1500 THB with room upstairs for 400 THB. The LT is 3000 THB.

Regards,

KOOL

[Koolshot737]

Spent 4 fantastic nights in Pattaya. Went to almost all gogos and discos in WS. The atmosphere is electrifying.

SHOWS : Angel Witch has their normal shows from 10 pm to 1 am. The Super Girl gogos in Soi Diamond have the Jaccuzi shows. Windmill club in Soi Diamond have the banana show. Customers can get up close & personal with pussy fingering and DATY.

RECOMMENDED CLUBS : Apart from above, Baccara, Peppermint, Happy Gogo, Beach Club, Cavern, Living Dolls 1, Airport, Farenheit, Silver Star A-Gogo. The Devils Den is also highly recommended.

Avoid Iron Club (next to Airport) like a plague. Drinks are expensive. Bar fine 800 THB which is more than other bars and most important the girls tend to cheat. I bar fined a girl from there and got cheated. She was demanding to go home without doing anything once she reached the hotel.

PRICES : In the Gogos ST 1500 to 2000 THB and LT 3000 THB. In Walking Street 1000 Baht ST and 2000 Baht LT. Girls at the beach side 500 Baht ST. Spotted a few stunners and took one of them for ST.

DRINKS PRICES : Most gogos offer draft ranging from 50 to 90 THB. Bottled beer is around 100 to 120 Baht. Spirits of 50 CL are probably the same. Lady drink is 120 to 150 Baht depending on the gogo.

OPTIMISING YOUR TIME : Start the night around 7 pm with light dinner. Start visiting the famous clubs and make note of your preferred girl's number in each gogo. Be aware that most stunners are picked up by 9 pm. Visit the show gogos from 10 pm to 1 am. By 2 am pick up your most suitable choice for ST or LT. Head to any one of the discos such as Mix, Insomnia, Lucifer, Tonys etc. If you have taken gogo girl for ST, you have good variety in the discos for LT@2000 Baht LT after enjoying with her.

Enjoy your stay in Pattaya.

Regards
KOOL

[Daddy07]

Well, I don't give up so easily. Finally got access to the club through a manager friend of another club. The club has definitely some good girls. Bar fine 600 THB. ST 1500 THB with room upstairs for 400 THB. The LT is 3000 THB.

Regards,

KOOLThat's interesting and I'm glad you found your way in.

There are a few cuties at that go-go club, but sad to say, the prices at the Pattaya go-go's are now at Bangkok levels.

Bar fine, ST room, and service charges add up to 2500 baht for short time and only one pop. A guy could do better than that at Annie's in Bangkok, and even better yet at most Bangkok oilies where multiple pops are standard service.

[LittleBigMan]

Personally, I don't partake not because I don't want to but It makes no sense and it's not being a cheap charlie or anything.

They want a 600 barfine, then short-time charge whether it is 1500 or 2000 and because they have available rooms upstairs they want another 400 baht or whatever. Doesn't make f-king sense to me since you haven't even left the place so why charge the barfine.

If they did this at Soi 6, the place would be closed down in a week. Can you imagine if you were on Soi 6, and they charge to go upstair. 300 for the barfine. 700 ST, they told you another 300 for the room upstairs?

At 2500/3000 baht just for short-time, you would get more bang for the buck if you took her for L. T. 600BF / 3000LT and if she bails on you then drop it back to 1500 Baht.

LBM

[Gin And Tonic]

Press reporting 7 or so Ugandan ladies picked up by BIB on Walking Street. Last year saw a black woman drinking at a bar facing WS. Sat down near bye and she took off. Anyone know what's up with them?

[BeaverHunter]

Arrived the afternoon of Tuesday the 17 just to learn that day happened to be a Budda Holiday. Wonderful I thought for my first day no alcahol and limited p4p action with all gogo's and about 90% of soi 6 shutdown for the day. Ended up getting afternoon attention on one of the few Soi 6 bars that was open and a late nite message at Honey. All spots visited keep reading.

Taxi to and from Pattaya to BKK.

I used Pattaya-taxi service to get to Pattaya. 1000 Baht plus 100Baht tip.

Mr T Service to go back to the airport. 900 Baht plus 100 Baht tip.

Both services were very good, on time as well as accomadating. I highly reccommend both.

Stayed at The Baywalk Residence. Go see my review in the Pattaya Hotel section if interested.

Soi 6 only trekked down there twice went to Siagon Girl and 1 other place closer to Beach Road. Do not remember the name. Both place very nice service and accomadating 300 Baht room 700 Baht girl + 300 if your into the 3rd hole.

Messages only went to Honey on a wing and a prayer at 2am my first night because of the holiday. 1800 Baht for 90 minutes. Girl was pissed off that I choose her because it was almost closing time and she wanted to leave. Too bad my thoughts were and I told her that if she did the right thing maybe I can get her out of there ealier. Spent only 60 minutes there CBJ pushed for BBBJ but that wasn't happening, with nice soapy message. At the end she wanted a tip and I said no because I was shorted 30 minutes and BBBJ wasn't available. Like I said at the beginning IF you did the right thing.

Beer Bars visited. Armaggadon, Cherry Bar, Bar 69, UToo, Bamboo, Golf Club. All girls priced at 500 Baht ST and 1000 Baht LT with a 300Baht BF. All fun places especially Bamboo. Well the Golf Club is more of a Resturant than a beer bar, but in my opinion a good place cause they do have a bar to hangout in. Plus they had on the TV live and Replay Yankee Games as well as the Hockey Playoffs. It is also next to Devils Den so you can watch the girls hangout and pick there noses while chanting and playing on their IPads.

The Disco's were all happening, the usual spots Insomia, Mixx and Lucifers. Girls apently and asking 1000 Baht LT and 500 ST.

Gogo visited. Sapphire, Alcattraz, Peppermint, Happy, Babydolls, Champagne, Baccara, Shark, Whats Up.

Did a double pleasure at Sapphire upstairs for 2500 Baht all inclusive (BF, Girls, Room) for 90 minutes. I liked this place and wished I could have spent some more time in here. Also honorable mention for Alcatraz Agogo. Alot of hotties in there. I did spent most of my tiime with my favorite gogo dancer from Peppermint so my time at other places was limited. All places 600 Baht BF. 1000 ST and depending on your negotiating tactics you can get anywhere from 1000 Baht to 2000 Baht LT.

Beach Road. I didn't partake so prices I do not know, but there were some hotties out there day and night.

Beaverhunter

[Mr Enternational]

Did a double pleasure at Sapphire upstairs for 2500 Baht all inclusive (BF, Girls, Room) for 90 minutes. I liked this place and wished I could have spent some more time in here.1,100 baht cheaper and the same 90 minutes of time as Devil's Den. Would you say that Sapphire is a viable alternative?

[BeaverHunter]

1,100 baht cheaper and the same 90 minutes of time as Devil's Den. Would you say that Sapphire is a viable alternative?To properly answer this I would have to say yes for me. But for others I do not know. While sitting next door with newly found friends I was watching DD girls hangingout without makeup picking their noses and found this unattractive. I didn't go to DD'd this trip but did my first trip in Sept. Had Gik and Bang. Bang was great but Gik was a starfish. At DD's as you know there is no negotiating at their price for 90 minutes unlimited pops. I'm sure at Sapphire this wouldn't be the case.

While upstairs in Sapphire, I poped twice in 90 minnutes. The girls were attractive and done-up since they were working. I do have a VIP membership with Sapphire and the Mammasan's I knew from another gogo back in Sept and I negotiated what I would pay. Did the VIP Membership help me? Maybe. I'm sure 2500 Baht can easily be higher or lower depending on one's neg. Tactics. I can only comment about what I paid.

Be well, Beaverhunter

[Mongerer88]

Hey guys, I've got a newbie question for you. I just came from San Jose CR and plan on being in Pattaya in a few weeks. While I know the two towns can't compare, there was NOTHING to do in San Jose other than the girls. I know what forum I'm on but are there other things to keep busy with besides the girls or is that pretty much it? Maybe it was also worse in SJ because you get a quick pop and then they're off so you're left alone with nothing to do but recharge for the next one whereas it seems like in Patts sometimes the problem is getting them to leave haha. Thanks guys!The elephant trekking at the park just outside of Pattaya (not an expensive taxi ride away) is good. They take you through a little jungle for about an hour on the elephant. The acquarium is above average, but a little farther away from the city than the Elephant Village. Ko Larn island is also fun. There is a big ferry that is very inexpensive that goes from Pattaya to / from Koh Larn. Several beaches on the island, including one (Monkey Beach) where there are "wild" monkeys to be fed. They are so accustomed to being fed that they are tame. There is pretty good shooting range on Koh Larn. The water around the beaches is very clean.

I found Bangkok a better launching point for the more touristy (but also more expensive) day trips.

[BeaverHunter]

To properly answer this I would have to say yes for me. But for others I do not know. While sitting next door with newly found friends I was watching DD girls hangingout without makeup picking their noses and found this unattractive. I didn't go to DD'd this trip but did my first trip in Sept. Had Gik and Bang. Bang was great but Gik was a starfish. At DD's as you know there is no negotiating at their price for 90 minutes unlimited pops. I'm sure at Sapphire this wouldn't be the case.

While upstairs in Sapphire, I poped twice in 90 minnutes. The girls were attractive and done-up since they were working. I do have a VIP membership with Sapphire and the Mammasan's I knew from another gogo back in Sept and I negotiated what I would pay. Did the VIP Membership help me? Maybe. I'm sure 2500 Baht can easily be higher or lower depending on one's neg. Tactics. I can only comment about what I paid.

Be well, BeaverhunterSorry but I did buy both ladies 2 lady drinks before talking about going upstairs. Just trying to be honest.

[The Guy]

Benefitted greatly from advice on the form.

No great revelations but here's what I have to offer:

The hotel:

I stayed at Pattaya Bay Resort based on forum recommendations. No problems. Pleasant, spacious, clean if slightly dated room. Good, cheap resaurant and all for just 1000 / night. It's a good walk into town but hotel has shuttle. Quiet for sleeping. No mini bar but big refrigerator you can stack with drinks. Staff was nice and always respectful to the ladies. When the lady picked up her I'd, they always called to ensure everything was fine.

The town:

I've spent a good amount of time in other spots around the world, such as Rio de Janeiro. I thought Pattaya stacked up pretty well, especially on pricing for just about everything. You can eat awfully well for $10 / person. Totally accessible to the BKK airport. You can pay 400 from downtown BKK to the airport and it's only about 900 from Pattaya to the same airport, although a far greater distance. Air conditioned buses are also a fine option.

The action:

I won't restate too much from recent posts, since I believe the information on the last 10 pages of this forum is quite accurate. I'll just qualify a few recent statements. One monger felt that most of the go-go girls had already given birth. I believe that's a reflection of an individual go-go bar and its policies. In some of the higher-end ones, very few, if any, had given birth. However, a perfect, flat tummy is something that has has a market value and you have to pay for in Pattaya. Maybe an extra 500 or so. Just part of the market. Unlike another poster, I do not believe that prices are on a par with BKK if you compare similar quality levels. Of course, I visited in the low (hot) season and many girls were absolutely desperate for business.

What struck me about Pattaya (and what I hadn't expected) was the high quality of street hookers along the beach road. Most places I've been to, you assume the street hookers are hard-edged drug addicts. That just didn't seem to be the case here. I met (and used) some really nice and rather attractive ladies. Sure, there are lots of lady boys and women of every variety. Overweight, old, weird whatever. But many mongers wouldn't be disappointed just concentrating on this niche in the market. Almost all seem to say 500 ST and 1, 000 LT. You can negotiate them down but I didn't have the heart to.

It seems there are 2 types of experiences that many mongers go for in Pattaya. Some want the GFE. The bars work really well for this. Many of these girls are looking for a BFE (even sugar daddy or husband) in a foreign guy. You will generally not get a 9-10 in these hunting grounds but I've seen some 7-8s, mid-20s to early 30s, already 1 child, who are delighted to spend the night with you for 1, 000 + 300 BF + drinks. These girls are not stunners but they are often pretty and super-loving in the sack.

The other type of experience is the mongers who want to lay a stunner just for the fun of it. Best hunting grounds are the go-gos or perhaps DD. You'll pay 2, 000-4, 000 baht for the total experience (including drinks) , which is not bad compared with the $4, 200 Elliot Spritzer paid in Sex Prison USA. These beautiful girls will not be be as affectionate in the sack. You might have a memorable time but something less than a GFE. In this context, I understand the negative comments some posters have directed toward DD but feel it does fill a market niche. If you just want the girl to come to your hotel, have your fun and pay your 2, 000, it's not the worst option in the world. You lose the ability to chat with the girl over some drinks and size her up, enabling you to eliminate the ones with bad attitudes or where you feel the vibes aren't quite right. But $67 in-and-out for a hot woman can only be seen as a "rip-off" in the context of Pattaya's amazing offerings.

Those seem to be the 2 main experiences. Then there are some hybrids. One night I felt like having a 9-10 stunner. Don't know why. So of course I was heading to the Walking Street to check out a go-go. On the way there, however, I noticed a street hooker right on the Walking Street who was remarkably hot. 20 years old and a very solid 9. Perfect, smooth skin, great figure. One child but not see-section and flat tummy. She charges 1000 ST and 3000 LT. I took ST and didn't regret it one bit. 1000 less than DD and I was even able to size her up in person. Later on in the sack, she said she charges triple for LT because she works the street from 11pm-4am and usually hopes to do ST 3 times. She said the lowest she goes for ST is 1000, which I tend to believe. She was that hot. She noted that she offers 1500 ST and 4500 LT for Indians. (I know it's racism, don't condone it and am just reporting.) As expected, her love-making skills were just so-so and I don't have any illusions that she had an orgasm. That seems to be the case at that level in Thailand.

Anyway, I can't speak highly enough about Pattaya, well worth a visit whatever your tastes and price range.

[Gin And Tonic]

Well the Golf Club is more of a Resturant than a beer bar, but in my opinion a good place cause they do have a bar to hangout in. Plus they had on the TV live and Replay Yankee Games as well as the Hockey Playoffs. It is also next to Devils Den so you can watch the girls hangout and pick there noses while chanting and playing on their IPads.

Beaverhunter[/QUOTE]Beav. Went to Golf Club in mornings for NFL games, do they have takeout later in the day?

[Hobbyist2]

Benefitted greatly from advice on the form.

No great revelations but here's what I have to offer:

The hotel:

I stayed at Pattaya Bay Resort based on forum recommendations. No problems. Pleasant, spacious, clean if slightly dated room. Good, cheap resaurant and all for just 1000 / night. It's a good walk into town but hotel has shuttle. Quiet for sleeping. No mini bar but big refrigerator you can stack with drinks. Staff was nice and always respectful to the ladies. When the lady picked up her I'd, they always called to ensure everything was fine.

The town:

I've spent a good amount of time in other spots around the world, such as Rio de Janeiro. I thought Pattaya stacked up pretty well, especially on pricing for just about everything. You can eat awfully well for $10 / person. Totally accessible to the BKK airport. You can pay 400 from downtown BKK to the airport and it's only about 900 from Pattaya to the same airport, although a far greater distance. Air conditioned buses are also a fine option.

The action:

I won't restate too much from recent posts, since I believe the information on the last 10 pages of this forum is quite accurate. I'll just qualify a few recent statements. One monger felt that most of the go-go girls had already given birth. I believe that's a reflection of an individual go-go bar and its policies. In some of the higher-end ones, very few, if any, had given birth. However, a perfect, flat tummy is something that has has a market value and you have to pay for in Pattaya. Maybe an extra 500 or so. Just part of the market. Unlike another poster, I do not believe that prices are on a par with BKK if you compare similar quality levels. Of course, I visited in the low (hot) season and many girls were absolutely desperate for business.

What struck me about Pattaya (and what I hadn't expected) was the high quality of street hookers along the beach road. Most places I've been to, you assume the street hookers are hard-edged drug addicts. That just didn't seem to be the case here. I met (and used) some really nice and rather attractive ladies. Sure, there are lots of lady boys and women of every variety. Overweight, old, weird whatever. But many mongers wouldn't be disappointed just concentrating on this niche in the market. Almost all seem to say 500 ST and 1, 000 LT. You can negotiate them down but I didn't have the heart to.

It seems there are 2 types of experiences that many mongers go for in Pattaya. Some want the GFE. The bars work really well for this. Many of these girls are looking for a BFE (even sugar daddy or husband) in a foreign guy. You will generally not get a 9-10 in these hunting grounds but I've seen some 7-8s, mid-20s to early 30s, already 1 child, who are delighted to spend the night with you for 1, 000 + 300 BF + drinks. These girls are not stunners but they are often pretty and super-loving in the sack.

The other type of experience is the mongers who want to lay a stunner just for the fun of it. Best hunting grounds are the go-gos or perhaps DD. You'll pay 2, 000-4, 000 baht for the total experience (including drinks) , which is not bad compared with the $4, 200 Elliot Spritzer paid in Sex Prison USA. These beautiful girls will not be be as affectionate in the sack. You might have a memorable time but something less than a GFE. In this context, I understand the negative comments some posters have directed toward DD but feel it does fill a market niche. If you just want the girl to come to your hotel, have your fun and pay your 2, 000, it's not the worst option in the world. You lose the ability to chat with the girl over some drinks and size her up, enabling you to eliminate the ones with bad attitudes or where you feel the vibes aren't quite right. But $67 in-and-out for a hot woman can only be seen as a "rip-off" in the context of Pattaya's amazing offerings.

Those seem to be the 2 main experiences. Then there are some hybrids. One night I felt like having a 9-10 stunner. Don't know why. So of course I was heading to the Walking Street to check out a go-go. On the way there, however, I noticed a street hooker right on the Walking Street who was remarkably hot. 20 years old and a very solid 9. Perfect, smooth skin, great figure. One child but not see-section and flat tummy. She charges 1000 ST and 3000 LT. I took ST and didn't regret it one bit. 1000 less than DD and I was even able to size her up in person. Later on in the sack, she said she charges triple for LT because she works the street from 11pm-4am and usually hopes to do ST 3 times. She said the lowest she goes for ST is 1000, which I tend to believe. She was that hot. She noted that she offers 1500 ST and 4500 LT for Indians. (I know it's racism, don't condone it and am just reporting.) As expected, her love-making skills were just so-so and I don't have any illusions that she had an orgasm. That seems to be the case at that level in Thailand.

Anyway, I can't speak highly enough about Pattaya, well worth a visit whatever your tastes and price range. Thanks for posting. I plan to check out Beach Road also.

[BeaverHunter]

Benefitted greatly from advice on the form.

No great revelations but here's what I have to offer:

The hotel:

I stayed at Pattaya Bay Resort based on forum recommendations. No problems. Pleasant, spacious, clean if slightly dated room. Good, cheap resaurant and all for just 1000 / night. It's a good walk into town but hotel has shuttle. Quiet for sleeping. No mini bar but big refrigerator you can stack with drinks. Staff was nice and always respectful to the ladies. When the lady picked up her I'd, they always called to ensure everything was fine.

The town:

I've spent a good amount of time in other spots around the world, such as Rio de Janeiro. I thought Pattaya stacked up pretty well, especially on pricing for just about everything. You can eat awfully well for $10 / person. Totally accessible to the BKK airport. You can pay 400 from downtown BKK to the airport and it's only about 900 from Pattaya to the same airport, although a far greater distance. Air conditioned buses are also a fine option.

The action:

I won't restate too much from recent posts, since I believe the information on the last 10 pages of this forum is quite accurate. I'll just qualify a few recent statements. One monger felt that most of the go-go girls had already given birth. I believe that's a reflection of an individual go-go bar and its policies. In some of the higher-end ones, very few, if any, had given birth. However, a perfect, flat tummy is something that has has a market value and you have to pay for in Pattaya. Maybe an extra 500 or so. Just part of the market. Unlike another poster, I do not believe that prices are on a par with BKK if you compare similar quality levels. Of course, I visited in the low (hot) season and many girls were absolutely desperate for business.

What struck me about Pattaya (and what I hadn't expected) was the high quality of street hookers along the beach road. Most places I've been to, you assume the street hookers are hard-edged drug addicts. That just didn't seem to be the case here. I met (and used) some really nice and rather attractive ladies. Sure, there are lots of lady boys and women of every variety. Overweight, old, weird whatever. But many mongers wouldn't be disappointed just concentrating on this niche in the market. Almost all seem to say 500 ST and 1, 000 LT. You can negotiate them down but I didn't have the heart to.

It seems there are 2 types of experiences that many mongers go for in Pattaya. Some want the GFE. The bars work really well for this. Many of these girls are looking for a BFE (even sugar daddy or husband) in a foreign guy. You will generally not get a 9-10 in these hunting grounds but I've seen some 7-8s, mid-20s to early 30s, already 1 child, who are delighted to spend the night with you for 1, 000 + 300 BF + drinks. These girls are not stunners but they are often pretty and super-loving in the sack.

The other type of experience is the mongers who want to lay a stunner just for the fun of it. Best hunting grounds are the go-gos or perhaps DD. You'll pay 2, 000-4, 000 baht for the total experience (including drinks) , which is not bad compared with the $4, 200 Elliot Spritzer paid in Sex Prison USA. These beautiful girls will not be be as affectionate in the sack. You might have a memorable time but something less than a GFE. In this context, I understand the negative comments some posters have directed toward DD but feel it does fill a market niche. If you just want the girl to come to your hotel, have your fun and pay your 2, 000, it's not the worst option in the world. You lose the ability to chat with the girl over some drinks and size her up, enabling you to eliminate the ones with bad attitudes or where you feel the vibes aren't quite right. But $67 in-and-out for a hot woman can only be seen as a "rip-off" in the context of Pattaya's amazing offerings.

Those seem to be the 2 main experiences. Then there are some hybrids. One night I felt like having a 9-10 stunner. Don't know why. So of course I was heading to the Walking Street to check out a go-go. On the way there, however, I noticed a street hooker right on the Walking Street who was remarkably hot. 20 years old and a very solid 9. Perfect, smooth skin, great figure. One child but not see-section and flat tummy. She charges 1000 ST and 3000 LT. I took ST and didn't regret it one bit. 1000 less than DD and I was even able to size her up in person. Later on in the sack, she said she charges triple for LT because she works the street from 11pm-4am and usually hopes to do ST 3 times. She said the lowest she goes for ST is 1000, which I tend to believe. She was that hot. She noted that she offers 1500 ST and 4500 LT for Indians. (I know it's racism, don't condone it and am just reporting.) As expected, her love-making skills were just so-so and I don't have any illusions that she had an orgasm. That seems to be the case at that level in Thailand.

Anyway, I can't speak highly enough about Pattaya, well worth a visit whatever your tastes and price range. Well done, thanks for sharing.

Beaverhunter

[Fon Tok]

Benefitted greatly from advice on the form. -- No great revelations but here's what I have to offer -- Anyway, I can't speak highly enough about Pattaya, well worth a visit whatever your tastes and price range.Excellent trip report. I enjoyed this informative and well-written summary of your time in Pattaya.

I agree with you that there are some nice options along Beach Road, however, they are few and far between at times. For reference, I've included a photo of a BR lady that I met earlier this year.

For the other commentators (below): please truncate (shorten) quoted long reports in order to get to your one sentence point, OK? One does not need to scroll all day to get to your point. ;)

[Kim Wheather]

What struck me about Pattaya (and what I hadn't expected) was the high quality of street hookers along the beach road.Yes, you're completely right. I was also very surprised by the high quality of street hookers on Beach Road..)

[Honeydog]

It all started when I was 16, it's now 15 years on and the desire is as strong as ever.

I type this report from my I phone from brisbane airport after being a casual reader of ISG for 3 years under my dads user name (for picture value) but now I have reached a point where I feel my $20 is long over due. I have chosen this thread because this is where it all began, in a little beer bar opposite dynasty inn with a lovely lady that just wanted to be friends!

It all starts somewhere for all of us and for most never ends ATM I have trouble seeing past it. As my next holiday approaches I will be on paradise again soon!

HD

[Rambis Youth]

For the other commentators (below): please truncate (shorten) quoted long reports in order to get to your one sentence point, OK? One does not need to scroll all day to get to your point. ;)I second that!

[Edward M]

It all started when I was 16, it's now 15 years on and the desire is as strong as ever.

I type this report from my I phone from brisbane airport after being a casual reader of ISG for 3 years under my dads user name (for picture value) but now I have reached a point where I feel my $20 is long over due. I have chosen this thread because this is where it all began, in a little beer bar opposite dynasty inn with a lovely lady that just wanted to be friends!

It all starts somewhere for all of us and for most never ends ATM I have trouble seeing past it. As my next holiday approaches I will be on paradise again soon!

HDYour dad must be a great father! Welcome.

[Droplet]

Lots of banters on this board. This is a quick noobie question. From research it seems that AC is much cheaper than Thailand and Pattaya for that matter. It seems the prices double in Thailand. So why are so many people still heading for Thailand and not AC?

If you could do a SE asian trip and have two weeks to spare for AC and Pattaya, how many days would you devote to each? Obviously you would spend a few days in Pattaya just for the experience. What is so good about Pattaya that is not avaiiable in AC?

Thanks,

[GreenBud]

What is so good about Pattaya that is not avaiiable in AC?1) More quantity of girls.

2) Rated X / nude shows at go-go bars.

3) Safety.

4) Better food.

5) Beach / beach activities.

6) More non-mongering tourist activities.

7) Not sure why I'm mentioning this, but for you gay guys out there: LBs and Boyz Town.

[Mauldid]

Only real advantage that AC has over Pattaya is the fact that English is national language. If this give comforts to people who do not want to learn Thai then by all means go to AC.

I love Filipino food but with more Filipinos working in Thailand now, I'm sure that Filipino food will be there soon.

I'll take Pattaya over AC any day.

[Edward M]

Lots of banters on this board. This is a quick noobie question. From research it seems that AC is much cheaper than Thailand and Pattaya for that matter. It seems the prices double in Thailand. So why are so many people still heading for Thailand and not AC?

If you could do a SE asian trip and have two weeks to spare for AC and Pattaya, how many days would you devote to each? Obviously you would spend a few days in Pattaya just for the experience. What is so good about Pattaya that is not avaiiable in AC?

Thanks, This is a very common question posted on the Pattaya and AC boards and I asked it myself before my first trips to both so it might be good to look through past posts but I know the search function has issues.

The girls in AC are cheaper than in Pattaya but some things are cheaper in Pattaya. Let me clarify that things are not necissarily cheaper in Pattaya on an equivalent basis but the lower threshold of what is considered acceptable for a westerner may be cheaper in Pattaya. For example I stayed in a fine lower level hotel on Walking Street in Pattaya for 500 baht ($16) per night. I could not find a similarly priced (700 PHP) hotel on Fields in AC. There are hotels that cheap in AC but they are probably either far down Perimeter or in a dodgy neighborhood. The jeepneys in AC are 9 peso (20 cents) vs the 20 baht bus (67 cents) in Pattaya but it only goes half as far and is less comfortable (much lower ceiling). Food seemed to be cheaper in Pattaya as well. I typically ate for 300 baht ($10) per day at my Walking Street hotel but spent around 700 pesos ($16) at my Fields hotel. There were also some good buffet deals that I saw around Pattaya that I did not see in AC.

It seems that most of the hotels and restaurants in Pattaya are locally run due to the strict labor laws there. A foreign bar owner, for example, is not allowed to be on the service side of the bar so he is just a figurehead with all of the employees being locals. AC has much more hands-on management from the foreigners so this probably drives up the prices for hotels and food. AC has more western style food as well which probably also drives up the prices. AC needs more luxury hotels than Pattaya too because there is no beach or natural recreation so I think you will spend more time at your hotel than in Pattaya. I found the other mongers more approachable and friendly in Pattaya. I think this is a side-effect of the hotel bars being smaller with the owners sitting with the customers. This makes Pattaya a better place to sit around and drink in. It also seems that Pattaya has a higher percentage of Australians while AC higher Americans. Even as an American though I found the Australians in Pattaya more approachable and more willing to give newbie advice than the Americans in AC so this is a positive for Pattaya. The Australians really seemed to like to sit around and drink and talk (sometimes in incomprehensible drunken Australian unfortunately) whereas the American in AC were for the most part cliquey and reserved.

Going to Pattaya from the airport is also less complicated and cheaper than getting to AC from Manila.

A typical budget might be in Pattaya $16 for hotel, $10 for food, $110 for drinks, bar, and girl = $136 per day while in AC $45 for hotel, $16 for food, $65 for drinks, bar, girl, and tip = $126 per day. In either place I am spending $1600 or roughly $100 per day on airfare. So it comes out to $236 vs $226. Not a big difference and if your main motivation is saving money than stay home as I bet you can beat $226 in your home town.

As to your question of a hypothetical 2 weeks in SE Asia where would I go? This is not hypothetical because I will be making that trip soon and it will be entirely in AC. Of course I will only be in one place because I do not want to sacrifice a day traveling but if it was an easy one hour door to door trip I would probably spend 2 or 3 in Pattaya. My main reason is that I personally find the Pinays to be more attractive. The reason that I would like to spend a few days in Pattaya is because there are things there that you cannot find in AC notably a beach and the Devil's Den and the shows are better. The best way I can describe the difference in feels of the places is AC:Pattaya = Tijuana:Las Vegas.

Either way you really cannot go wrong. If you really cannot decide than check out Cebu Pacific flghts from Bangkok to Clark. You can do a week in each and then you will know. Even though I like AC better I am glad that I experienced Pattaya so that I would not waste any time worrying about what I was missing and like I said, if I had more time I would shoot over to Pattaya once in a while too.

[Normad2020]

(30 May 2011) Rushed through the meeting in KL and left for KLIA just in time to catch the 3. 15pm for Bangkok. Landed at Bangkok Int Airport at 4. 25pm and waited for the BELL bus which left for Pattaya at 6pm. Arrived at 7. 25pm and reached Pasadena Lodge at around 8pm. Checked in, took a shower and headed down to X-Zone where the first bachelor party was supposed to be held. Reached there and could not find the guys and their phones were not active. Decided to go back to LK Metro area for some drinks and look for my companion for the night.

Walked around a bit and finally settled for "Anna Food & Drinks" (opposite Lek Apartment). Had a drink and talked to a girl (Om. 25yo. 5'5") who had just started working in Pattaya for a week. Bar fined her (300B + 1000B LT) and left for some dinner. On the way to dinner received a call from the guy and we met up at Club Blu.

The friend who was going to be married (aka "Bachelor") was so shocked at the display of the ladies on the window that he just sat there intimidated. We saw it was going no way and decided to advance our plan and guided him down the road to Devel Den (DD). We just paid for the services of two ladies and left him to choose. We went to MASH Agogo for some drinks and went back to pick him up about 2hrs later. What we saw coming out of DD was a different man (he was glowing). The rest of the night was spent at MASH Agogo and later with each of us securing a companion for the night headed back to our respective room at either Areca and Pasadena.

Om and I had a go at it all the way to about 5am. After releasing my 3rd shot and multiple climax from Om we slept until 11am (today). Om left and I met up with the guys and proceeded to Sabai Dee for a soapy massage. Nothing to shout about and now I am drinking coffee opposite Devid Den and typing this report. Might just go to DD as I saw two ladies that is just my type ;-)

Cheers

[Opebo]

...The jeepneys in AC are 9 peso (20 cents) vs the 20 baht bus (67 cents) in Pattaya but it only goes half as far and is less comfortable (much lower ceiling).The song taew in Pattaya (I guess some farang call it the 'baht bus') is 10 baht, not 20 baht. Please, no one pay 20 baht for this service. Ten baht only.

[GreenBud]

The song taew in Pattaya (I guess some farang call it the 'baht bus') is 10 baht, not 20 baht. Please, no one pay 20 baht for this service. Ten baht only.It's 10 Baht within 1 city. Example: around Pattaya; many will do the loop aound Beach Road and 2nd Road.

It's 10 additional Baht for each city you cross. Example: Pattaya to Jomtien is 20 baht.

The "standard" is just to charge us the normal prices for shared songtaews:) Of course for private ones, we are Farangs.

[Edward M]

The song taew in Pattaya (I guess some farang call it the 'baht bus') is 10 baht, not 20 baht. Please, no one pay 20 baht for this service. Ten baht only.Oops. Mental error on my part. It has been a while. 10 baht for the bus which also makes it cheaper than the jeepney for a longer ride.

[Sky Ryder]

This is a very common question posted on the Pattaya and AC boards and I asked it myself before my first trips to both so it might be good to look through past posts but I know the search function has issues.

Either way you really cannot go wrong. If you really cannot decide than check out Cebu Pacific flghts from Bangkok to Clark. You can do a week in each and then you will know. Even though I like AC better I am glad that I experienced Pattaya so that I would not waste any time worrying about what I was missing and like I said, if I had more time I would shoot over to Pattaya once in a while too. Edward,

Thanks a lot for your report! I have experience in AC and a few other Fils locations, as well as Bangkok and Samui. I have never been to Pattaya and have often wondered what I am "missing". It sounds like a trip is in order, if for no other reason than filling the square and enjoy some of the things it has to offer. I, too enjoy the beach and Thai food, and the ladies are easy on the eyes as well. I am just curious since you didn't mention it, did you try any massages while in town? I enjoy a good massage as a jump start to a fun evening and have found many times that leads a a good GFE experience. TIA.

Sky

[Uncle Volodya]

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The friend who was going to be married (aka "Bachelor") was so shocked at the display of the ladies on the window that he just sat there intimidated. We saw it was going no way and decided to advance our plan and guided him down the road to Devel Den (DD). We just paid for the services of two ladies and left him to choose. We went to MASH Agogo for some drinks and went back to pick him up about 2hrs later. What we saw coming out of DD was a different man (he was glowing). S[/QUOTE]


Your post reminded me of all the lame ass Bachelor parties I've been to in the US over the years, where the best the groom to be gets is a lap dance from some mediocre skank (with attitude to boot).

Kudos. You guys sent your pal off the right way.

[AntiPopular]

Your post reminded me of all the lame ass Bachelor parties I've been to in the US over the years, where the best the groom to be gets is a lap dance from some mediocre skank (with attitude to boot).

Kudos. You guys sent your pal off the right way. The Hangover II anyone?

[Chachi420]

I know the standard fee appears to 700 + 300 for room.

However I am thinking about spending a couple of nights at the Queen Vic on Soi 6 and would prefer to take the girls back to my room, rather than upstairs at the bar.

Would this negate the 300bt room fee, or does this still apply?

If I can get them back to my room for 700bt, I might just call them up from the balcony and not leave the room for days!

[BionicMan]

I know the standard fee appears to 700 + 300 for room.

However _____would prefer to take the girls back to my room, rather than upstairs at the bar.

Would this negate the 300bt room fee, or does this still apply?

If I can get them back to my room for 700bt, I might just call them up from the balcony and not leave the room for days! Most likely you are forgetting the bar fine that applies always

[Edward M]

Edward,

Thanks a lot for your report! I have experience in AC and a few other Fils locations, as well as Bangkok and Samui. I have never been to Pattaya and have often wondered what I am "missing". It sounds like a trip is in order, if for no other reason than filling the square and enjoy some of the things it has to offer. I, too enjoy the beach and Thai food, and the ladies are easy on the eyes as well. I am just curious since you didn't mention it, did you try any massages while in town? I enjoy a good massage as a jump start to a fun evening and have found many times that leads a a good GFE experience. TIA.

SkyGlad you liked it Sky. No, I did not try any massage even though the guy that talked me into going to Pats strongly recommended it. There was too much to do there and I never got around to the soapies, oilies, BJ bars, or any else not between Soi Diamond and Devil's Den. The place is really huge compared to AC. The strip is about the same length but Pats is more densely packed and 3-4 roads deep with the side streets full of bars unlike AC which is mostly just bars along Fields / Perimeter with some empty areas.

You have got me thinking. Maybe next trip will be back to Pattaya.

[Daddy07]

It's 10 Baht within 1 city. Example: around Pattaya; many will do the loop aound Beach Road and 2nd Road.

It's 10 additional Baht for each city you cross. Example: Pattaya to Jomtien is 20 baht. No, it's still 10 baht per person from Pattaya to Jomtien, and vice versa, but sometimes drivers want to take 20 baht for, say, Jomtien to North Pattaya. The solution is to hand him 10 baht and walk away. If a confrontation ensues, hand him his 20 baht. Never argue with Thai's.

[Fon Tok]

No, it's still 10 baht per person from Pattaya to Jomtien, and vice versa, but sometimes drivers want to take 20 baht for, say, Jomtien to North Pattaya. The solution is to hand him 10 baht and walk away. If a confrontation ensues, hand him his 20 baht. Never argue with Thai's.So, Daddy, is it the principle or the $0.29 us? ;)

[Daddy07]

So, Daddy, is it the principle or the $0.29 us? ;)It's the upper front teeth in your mouth you want to keep. :)

[Gin And Tonic]

The song taew in Pattaya (I guess some farang call it the 'baht bus') is 10 baht, not 20 baht. Please, no one pay 20 baht for this service. Ten baht only.I stayed at Soi 19 and Jomtien Beach Road and the driver would want 20 baht for that far out going into Pattaya.

[Mr Enternational]

I stayed at Soi 19 and Jomtien Beach Road and the driver would want 20 baht for that far out going into Pattaya.Shit Soi 19? I'm surprised he didn't want 200 baht. Move out of the sticks.

[Edward M]

I stayed at Soi 19 and Jomtien Beach Road and the driver would want 20 baht for that far out going into Pattaya.Again I apologize for my mental error since it started this thread. I do not know where this is. Did you ask for a specific destination of just get on and let him take his route? If you just went along the baht bus route you should not have to have paid extra. If it is not a special trip and he asks for more just wave him along. Another one will be there in a minute.

[Action69]

I will be in Pattaya on 1st and 2nd of July. Then going to Bangok on the 3rd.

Will the Go Go bars will be closed?

What about street walkers and all the girls walking in the streets?

Should I cancel my trip?

It seems that I have very bad luck

[Gin And Tonic]

Shit Soi 19? I'm surprised he didn't want 200 baht. Move out of the sticks.35th floor view was worth it. Stayed for 2 months but started to rent motorbike because baht buses would you-turn at the 2nd police box and head back. Those that went to the end of Jomtien Beach road wanted 20 baht, this is the going rate as told to me by the Scot landlord. A baht taxi from Walking St. Was 200. 400 baht, the later paid 6am New Years Day.

[Daddy07]

Shit Soi 19? I'm surprised he didn't want 200 baht. Move out of the sticks.Your point makes sense for a monger in Pattaya only for a week or two wanting action 2 or 3 times a day, but for someone who lives here, or stays a month or so, it's close enough to the madness, but far enough away for relaxation and quiet.

[Normad2020]

Well he was a different man after DD.

My report will follow.


Your post reminded me of all the lame ass Bachelor parties I've been to in the US over the years, where the best the groom to be gets is a lap dance from some mediocre skank (with attitude to boot).

Kudos. You guys sent your pal off the right way.

[Normad2020]

(31 may 2011). after typing my report, got a call from the guys and we met up at areca. since it was late afternoon, we decided to start the bachelor on the correct mood by steering him to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) for a nice session to start the evening. man you should see his face when told what the speciality of the ladies were (priceless!). paid for the session upfront and select a lady to march him in.

he came out smiling and we told him the evening is only getting better. took a walk through mike's and took the bath bus to walking street where we had an early dinner at the beer garden. food was good but the selection was poor. after dinner we took a stroll down ws but it was crowded with families and children! what a let down.

decided to come back at the later part of the evening and went for a 2-hr thai massage at sawadee massage (just round the corner from ws). had a relaxing massage and when we came out it was close to 11pm. made our way to x-zone and the real education began for the bachelor. he was shocked on entering and after a few kinky actions with the ladies, he went wild and the rest of the night was great. we left the place at 12. 30am and finally made it to mash (where the guys took the same ladies as previous night whom apparently they had arranged the bar-fine earlier without my knowledge). i was stuck as i had no lady!

the guys left me for their rooms and i felt like a arse. wondered around lk metro area and finally decided to sleep alone.

[Edward M]

(31 may 2011). after typing my report, got a call from the guys and we met up at areca. since it was late afternoon, we decided to start the bachelor on the correct mood by steering him to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) for a nice session to start the evening. man you should see his face when told what the speciality of the ladies were (priceless!).i have to ask, what is the specialty of the ladies at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)? i looked at their web site and could not figure it out.

and what are they wearing under their skirts? nothing i hope!

[Normad2020]

bbbj+cim (optional)


i have to ask, what is the specialty of the ladies at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)? i looked at their web site and could not figure it out.

and what are they wearing under their skirts? nothing i hope!

[Normad2020]

(1 june 2011) i woke up at around 10am (after a very deep sleep alone) and was horny. decided to walk about 20m to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and has a nice morning release (700b). i just selected the lady with the biggest boob (age was beside the point) proceeded inside. since it was early and there were no other customer decided to just do it on the ground floor. thereafter went back to my room and took a shower.

called the guys and we headed over to central festive mall for lunch at the food court. from the look on their face they had a good time with their respective ladies. gave them a piece of my mind (pertaining to last night arrangement) and we called the matter settled. we went to aree massage (diagonally opposite canterbury tales cafe) and had a nice massage with hj. we took the whole place as their were 6 of us. it was fund.

later went for a walk along beach road. what we saw were mainly lb and what tg were available was either old or fat and they target clients seems to be the indian and middle eastern. we walked and ended up at soi 6 where the bachelor was once again given an education. we ended up at saigon girls and each of us took a st. it was a novelty for all of us.

now need to board my plane. will continue later.

cheers

[Chichichi]

Can anyone advise on the best time of year to visit Bangkok / Pattaya? I'm debating whether to go in maybe June or August / September. Is there a best time of the season to visit in terms of available women and weather? Thanks.

[Crocodilexp]

Can anyone advise on the best time of year to visit Bangkok / Pattaya? I'm debating whether to go in maybe June or August / September. Is there a best time of the season to visit in terms of available women and weather? Thanks.For the weather, June is definitely better. August / September are peak of the rainy season. Torrential rains for 1-2h each day, possible flooding. Manageable with a bit of patience, it doesn't put things on hold much (businesses and transportation still run etc.).

As for the girls, there is no huge difference (a newbie wouldn't notice a difference). Low season has its perks, especially in Pattaya: lower prices, less competition, more relaxed atmosphere, but most venues / girls still work, they don't suddenly take an 8-month break.

The *best* time IMO is early November -- not much rain, cooler weather (still really hot!), and not quite the peak of the high season (with hordes of tourists all over). On the other hand, if you're sitting at home with blue balls, the best time to go is definitely NOW, or at least soon.

[Deori]

Hey Fast Eddie,

I know there's plenty to do in Costa Rica, I was saying not much to do in San Jose. I appreciate your response though and all of the other great suggestions sincerely. Thanks guys, I'll be there in the beginning of July!


To Derori,

I been to San jose a few time and I go to Pattaya 2 time a yr, mongering is much better in Pattaya but there are more thing to do in San Jose you can go to the casino to play poker or take a eco tour, it is very beautiful place you just need to get out of the city go to some of the national park and beach in CR.

Fast Eddie 48

[Dinghy]

i have to ask, what is the specialty of the ladies at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)? i looked at their web site and could not figure it out.

and what are they wearing under their skirts? nothing i hope! [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s specialized in satisfying the oral urges."bj cityl"

[Wendella]

My friend is about to head to Pattaya for a few days. I visited a few times in the mid-00s, haven't been there since then. I mentioned to him about the discos at Walking Street, as one possible thing to check out. WHen I was last there, Marine was a pretty good one. A little more user-friendly for pickups than other ones (not too dark) and plenty of girls, including ones getting off of work at go-gos at 2am. Also, EVERY girl there was available to be picked up. It wasn't a mix of normal clubgoers and working girls. It was 100% working girls and guys there to pick them up. (yes I do realize this might be a tall order)

How about these days? What are the best discos to hit nowadays? Do the gogo bars still close at 2? And do the gogo girls still often go to the disco to find customers after work? What would be a good time to head to the disco?

Any info appreciated.

Thanks.

Wendella

[MisterO]

How about these days? What are the best discos to hit nowadays? Do the gogo bars still close at 2? And do the gogo girls still often go to the disco to find customers after work? What would be a good time to head to the disco?When I went to Marine in January, there seemed to be a lot of ladyboys there. I personally prefer Lucifers disco. Went there every night during my last trip a few weeks ago. Insomnia could be good as well.

[JenniferAdam]

Hotel Recommendations:

Centre Beach Hotel on Central Pattaya Road. The amenities might seem a bit old, but the room is spacious and clean. Very quiet once inside the room. Have a good breakfast buffet and swimming pool. Extremely convenient.

Eastiny Inn or Plaza, both are under the same corporate and located on Soi 8. The next block is Hilton Central Festival. The breakfast is OK as well. Soi 8 has some attractions such as Club 23. The pool is quiet though a bit smaller.

Prices are good for both Centre Beach and Eastiny.

Piyada Residence Inn located on Third Road. 15 minutes walk to WS. The room is OK, nothing fancy. $20 for a nite, no complains.

Sea Lover Inn located in Jomtein next to the elephant trek, a bit isolated from all action. It assembles Japanese love hotel type. Better to get a girl before checking in since commute may be a problem. Nice room for boom boom. Breakfast has american or pork congee delivered to room with no extra charge.

Never paid or heard joiner fee unless you bring more than one girl.

Transportation:

Tuk Tuk taxi is only 10 baht around Pattaya. Even from Pattaya to Jomtein or Nakula. Motorbike taxi should be 30 baht for each person. From Pattaya to Tesco or the Premium Outlet, simply change the taxi before going all the way to Jomtein. The hotel would charge 300 baht one way.

Bar fine is only 300 baht for bars and 1500 baht for LT. There are some hidden gems in the bars next to the beer garden. Most bar girls have kids though. The girls know how to please their customers. I got a girl that owns a motorbike. We rode all the way from Pattaya to Jomtein See Lover Inn. Imagine I sat behind her on the way. She was only 20 and she demanded more than I do. What a great fun!

However, I went to a bar across the Saiba Land Massage. I tried to bar fine a dancing girl and she said the bar fine was 600 baht and she only does short time. The name of the bar is Cherry something. Bad attitude.

Went to Supergirls A gogo, the bar fine is 600 baht and LT is 2500 baht. Lots of talents. The only thing was the LT is only until 5AM. I gave up and went to Happy A go go, which caters many Chinese and Japanese. Tons of young talents and I got a girl to stay with me until 9AM. She has a nice firm body with medium size boos and round ass. I recommend Happy Agogo.

AMP around Big C. They all having some kind of promotion. 90 mins for 1800 baht. I had a great time at one of the three AMPs. The girl claimed that I fuck her so hard, she suggested I should take 2 girls next time.

Took a day trip to Ko Lank island and met some chicks from Taiwan. I volunteered to be their photographer and ended up to hang out with them in the evening drinking and shooting shit. Pure fun!

Boned another go go girl the fist nite. I couldn't remember which go go clun though. The girl left early even though I paid for LT.

Pattaya these days seems to have many more Iranian and Russian. There is a session behind WS just dedicated to the Middle Easterners. First I thought I went into Cairo. Some thing about Russian. Russian are all over and there are even Russian shops and TV channels. Pattaya must be a good place for money laundring.

Clubbing:

Lucifer or Isomnia are good for free lancers. Go at 2AM or before they close at 3AM. Marines is longer the same.

Food:

WS has many good seafood places. Hilton Central Festival on the top floors are good places to eat and hang out. Prices are still very cheap but sanitation is much better than street vendors.

DO NOT GO to El Toro Steakhouse, the wine is nasty and the steak is poor. The price is ridiculous for what I paid for. Want go steak, get it at home.

Don't pay more than 1300 baht (including 60 baht tolls) from or to the BKK airport. Take the bus which costs only 200 baht.

If you haven't been to Pattaya, go and have fun. There are some other things to do like the tiger zoo, elephant trek, cocodile farm, big Buddha mountain, wooden Buddhist Temple with doplins, floating market, parasailing, submarine, scuba diving, etc. Take a thai girl with you as well.

But Pattaya is no longer the same compare to 10, 15 or 20 yrs ago.

It seems like Vietnam and Cambodia are newer destinations.

[Stakeout]

I have heard that most gogos have short-time rooms adjacent to the club.

How much do these rooms cost you, and how are they? Secluded? Clean?

[Wendella]

Naive question from one who's never checked it out:

Is the notorious "Beach Road" to the north or the south of Walking Street?

Is it worth seeing in the afternoon?

[TomJackin]

Naive question from one who's never checked it out:

Is the notorious "Beach Road" to the north or the south of Walking Street?

Is it worth seeing in the afternoon? North of Walking Street. It is a long stretch, and well worth seeing pretty much anytime. We call it the Coconut Bar.

[Fon Tok]

Naive question from one who's never checked it out: Is the notorious "Beach Road" to the north or the south of Walking Street? Is it worth seeing in the afternoon?North of WS.

Yes, the afternoon often brings out a variety of women, some pretty, for their first trick of the day,

[Mangofan]

It seems like Vietnam and Cambodia are newer destinations.Cambodia is great, but Vietnam SUCKS for mongering. Don't bother as it's probably the worst country in all of Asia for p4p. Even South Korea is better than Vietnam.

[Mr Enternational]

Naive question from one who's never checked it out:

Is the notorious "Beach Road" to the north or the south of Walking Street? Is it worth seeing in the afternoon? Beach Road IS Walking Street. It just changes names at the Pattaya Tai (South Pattaya Road) intersection when the buildings start to be on the waterfront instead of the beach. It's always worth seeing.

[Butter69]

[QUOTE=Wendella; 1162685]How about these days? What are the best discos to hit nowadays? Do the gogo bars still close at 2? And do the gogo girls still often go to the disco to find customers after work? What would be a good time to head to the disco?

Wendella,

After spending a few months in Pattaya I would recommend Lucifer, ibar & Insomnia.

I normally arrive into Lucifer around 12. 45. If I haven't found anyone that I want to take home, then I will go to iBar and Insomnia around 2am.

The GoGo's close around 3am, and some of the girls often go to Insomnia after, as it closes around 5am.

There's another disco called Mixx, but it's further down walking st and it's smaller. Plus you will often find that the girls from Lucifer go there if they haven't found anyone

[Keeniu]

"Even from Pattaya to Jomtein or Nakula. Motorbike taxi should be 30 baht for each person"

I was staying around Bali hai pier and the cheapest motorbike taxi to central WS was 30-40 Baht. Was I ripped off? And what is the minimum for a short trip? At night time they wanted 50-60.

I agree with another poster that Vietnam is the pits. Avoid. In Cambodia, some pay $200-400 a month for a full time gal for WIFE duties Wash, Iron, Fu. K, Etc. That's nice, if you are in no hurry with monogamist tendencies. That's good money for Cambo, considering unskilled position generally pays $40 per month. Beers in Cambo are 50cents-$1, its cheap. The downside is that it is unwise to wander around at night alone, and that Cambo girls can get lazy fast. IMHO Pattaya is just nicer, safer, and luxury, as in Cambo most places only feel like 2 star hostels.

[Wendella]

After spending a few months in Pattaya I would recommend Lucifer, ibar & Insomnia.

I normally arrive into Lucifer around 12. 45. If I haven't found anyone that I want to take home, then I will go to iBar and Insomnia around 2am.

The GoGo's close around 3am, and some of the girls often go to Insomnia after, as it closes around 5am.

There's another disco called Mixx, but it's further down walking st and it's smaller. Plus you will often find that the girls from Lucifer go there if they haven't found anyoneGreat reply, thanks. I never heard of iBar before.

I agree that your idea of doing the disco crawl, figuring out what the circuit is that the girls go on, is the way to go. Used to do that in Bangkok back in the days when Grace Coffee Shop was a decent final destination.

[Edward M]

Even from Pattaya to Jomtein or Nakula. Motorbike taxi should be 30 baht for each person.I am glad I read this forum. A few times I took a scooter taxi with a girl (driver, me, she on the same scooter) on short trips within Pattaya. She told me to give the driver 100. I do not know if she was trying to scam me or getting conned herself. She did a few times get street food for me (so that I would pay the local rate not the tourist) so at least in that case she was trying to save me money. The food discount was real. One time she got something for me while I was standing there and 5 minutes later I went to the same vendor alone and he wanted double what I had just paid. When I complained that I just paid half that he gave me 3/4 as much for the cheaper price.

When I was leaving for good I was waiting with this same girl with my luggage for the baht bus to take me to the bus terminal. The first bus that came by said 100 baht. I said keep moving, I will pay 20 (10 for me and 10 for her). He quickly said,"OK 50." I said,"No. 20. I'll take that bus right behind you." My girl seemed genuinely bewildered and said,"That is a good rate. You should go!" I told her,"No. It is always 10 baht. He is a crook." She really didn't seem to understand. She said she had never taken the baht bus before. Maybe it was BS. Note that she also must have been pretty drunk because she drank more than I did that night and she was half my size and I was pretty buzzed too and I have heard drunks say more outrageous things than that.

Other than "Thai helps Thai" I cannot guess why she would try to intentionally con me into giving drivers more than the going rate while getting me the local food rate. I doubt that the drivers who we met at random would remember her and we are talking about tens of baht so even if they split the take we are talking about about a few dollars while this same girl refused to accept the 1000 baht that I owed her as I was leaving (presumably the best time to pull a scam since the chance of losing a client would be extremely low). Maybe when she was alone she always walked everywhere and only took transport when with a client so she really didn't know the prices.

[Gin And Tonic]

He quickly said,"OK 50." I said,"No. 20. I'll take that bus right behind you." My girl seemed genuinely bewildered and said,"That is a good rate. You should go!" I told her,"No. It is always 10 baht. He is a crook." She really didn't seem to understand. She said she had never taken the baht bus before. Maybe it was BS. Note that she also must have been pretty drunk because she drank more than I did that night and she was half my size and I was pretty buzzed too and I have heard drunks say more outrageous things than that.

No you don't understand. The girl was right and you are wrong, and very paranoid. The trucks that run on a set route for a set price regardless of distance, are like buses in West. These are called baht buses. Those lined up at a stall are like a taxi. One of which is at 2nd road at south Pattaya road. If you negotiate with the taxi driver to take you and as many other that fit to Jomtien 100 baht would be a very good price. If you take a passing by baht bus it would be 10 baht per person.

[Hotman 666]

Naive question from one who's never checked it out:

Is the notorious "Beach Road" to the north or the south of Walking Street?

Is it worth seeing in the afternoon? Beach Road (Coconut Bar) is worth checking out at ANY time of the day. Probably the best stretch is from W. S. To around Soi 6.

OK, not EVERY girl is a 'stunner' but in my experience there are always a few sweeties to keep a man happy for an hour or two.

Also, it is, in my opinion, the BEST value for money in the whole of Pattaya for a playmate.

You should easily be able to get S / T at 500 Baht and NO Bar Fine!! (if business is slow then perhaps even a little lower!)

Enjoy, I do.

Hotman

[NicFrenchy]

Size has nothing to do with Alcohol when you talk about Bar Girls. 2 things:

1. She probably drinks heavily on a Daily basis, so despite her size, she is well trained.

2. They water down these lady drinks quite a lot to make sure the girls stay fresh while the punters go drunk.

I would try switching drinks if I were you and you'll be surprised that her Gin & Tonic does not have (or very little) gin in it. Or that her Tequila is in fact water.

I would not be surprised

[Chachi420]

North of WS.

Yes, the afternoon often brings out a variety of women, some pretty, for their first trick of the day, Hi Fon Tok,

Love your pics!

Having been to Pattaya several times, I have never tasted the fruit of the coccnut bar.

This is partly due to the slim pickings, and also not having the bottle to proposition the decent ones.

I always fear getting my face slapped for picking a non-working girl.

The last picture of your latest batch is a prime example. She looks great and for 500bt a freaking bargain. However why would a girl who looks like that be walking the beach looking for a quick 500bt, when she could easily get top dollar in a gogo. She must therefore be a non-working girls simply out for a stroll, or on lunch from work.

I'm sure this thought process has cost me many happy endings. But how on earth do you tell?

[Fon Tok]

I'm sure this thought process has cost me many happy endings. But how on earth do you tell?Easy. Non-working girls generally do not stand and loiter on Beach Road. If you look a woman in her eyes and she smiles back at you approvingly, you're pretty much assured that she is available.

You can also stop and make small talk with the women. I do this a lot while taking photos. Usually, they will say "I go with you," at some point in the conversation.

However, that does not mean every woman on BR is in the "game." I've had women friends, (albeit working girls in clubs) , tell me they've been approached and propositioned. These girls like to go down to the beach and eat som tam in the daytime (and they don't like to be propositioned).

[Mr Enternational]

However, that does not mean every woman on BR is in the "game." I've had women friends, (albeit working girls in clubs) , tell me they've been approached and propositioned. These girls like to go down to the beach and eat som tam in the daytime (and they don't like to be propositioned).I also know non-pros who relax on Beach Road drinking beer and looking at the ocean, usually at night though. But like you said if you read the signals or open your mouth and try to talk to them then you will know whether they are working or not.

[Edward M]

He quickly said,"OK 50." I said,"No. 20. I'll take that bus right behind you." My girl seemed genuinely bewildered and said,"That is a good rate. You should go!" I told her,"No. It is always 10 baht. He is a crook." She really didn't seem to understand. She said she had never taken the baht bus before. Maybe it was BS. Note that she also must have been pretty drunk because she drank more than I did that night and she was half my size and I was pretty buzzed too and I have heard drunks say more outrageous things than that.

No you don't understand. The girl was right and you are wrong, and very paranoid. The trucks that run on a set route for a set price regardless of distance, are like buses in West. These are called baht buses. Those lined up at a stall are like a taxi. One of which is at 2nd road at south Pattaya road. If you negotiate with the taxi driver to take you and as many other that fit to Jomtien 100 baht would be a very good price. If you take a passing by baht bus it would be 10 baht per person. It was a (10) baht bus. It wasn't parked but traveling down Walking Street as was the one behind him. They both took the same route and both picked up more people on the way to Jomtien. He was trying to make some quick money on a naive tourist.

[Edward M]

Size has nothing to do with Alcohol when you talk about Bar Girls. 2 things:

1. She probably drinks heavily on a Daily basis, so despite her size, she is well trained.

2. They water down these lady drinks quite a lot to make sure the girls stay fresh while the punters go drunk.

I would try switching drinks if I were you and you'll be surprised that her Gin & Tonic does not have (or very little) gin in it. Or that her Tequila is in fact water.

I would not be surprisedWell 1 and 2 contradict each other don't you think? For most of the night we were drinking the same bottled beer not LDs. She was pretty bombed.

[NicFrenchy]

Well 1 and 2 contradict each other don't you think?Absolutely. Welcome to Thailand, nothing makes sense here.

[Member #4255]

First off, I'd like to thank all for the great reports. Great info here!

I'm thinking of going for a week. If someone could answer my questions I'd appreciate it!

1. What's the best Hotels.

2. What's the average price for a good looking young gal 20-30.

3. How much does it cost for a week in total minus air fair

Thanks again

[Mouse1]

First off, I'd like to thank all for the great reports. Great info here!

I'm thinking of going for a week. If someone could answer my questions I'd appreciate it!

1. What's the best Hotels.

2. What's the average price for a good looking young gal 20-30.

3. How much does it cost for a week in total minus air fair

Thanks againAlways happy to answer interesting and unusual questions.

1. Most people would say the Shangri-La or Sheraton.

2. This is answered in many places, but the consensus is that her price is far above rubies.

3. $42 (or $45 if you leave a tip).

No worries Winnipeg.

[RasSpewtin]

First off, I'd like to thank all for the great reports. Great info here!

I'm thinking of going for a week. If someone could answer my questions I'd appreciate it!

1. What's the best Hotels.

2. What's the average price for a good looking young gal 20-30.

3. How much does it cost for a week in total minus air fair

Thanks againFordwurst, I need to tell you that although Mouse1 is close to correct, his answers are a little off the mark. Now first of all I congratulate you for asking your questions before doing any research, since all of the advise offered here is wrong. You can only trust the advice I am about to give you now. Are you ready? Then let's begin.

1. Mouse1 is correct about the Shangri La as being the best hotel, but what he neglected to say is that the best hotel is actually the Shangri La in Bangkok. Bangkok is only 5 minutes away from Pattaya's Walking Street by tuk tuk.

2. The most expensive girls are pretty and 20 years old. They always cost exactly 3, 000 Baht. The cheapest girls are ugly and 30 years old. They are usually willing to pay you 3, 000 Baht for a good time. So when you average it out, the gals are in fact free.

3. I am glad that you asked about the total cost for a week minus airfare, because it saves me the time of sending you a PM to ask how much your airfare is costing you. The Bangkok Shangri La is $10 per night but you can get that down to $5 per night if you use a coupon. Food costs are limited to $2 per day by Thai law. And like we already established, the girls are free. So your total costs $7 per day or $49 per week. Tipping is illegal. Mouse1 was close with his answer, but he should have done more research first.

So now all you need to do is save up $49 (plus your airfare of course) , and away you go!

Raz

[Mouse1]

Fordwurst, I need to tell you that although Mouse1 is close to correct, his answers are a little off the mark. Now first of all I congratulate you for asking your questions before doing any research, since all of the advise offered here is wrong. You can only trust the advice I am about to give you now. Are you ready? Then let's begin.

1. Mouse1 is correct about the Shangri La as being the best hotel, but what he neglected to say is that the best hotel is actually the Shangri La in Bangkok. Bangkok is only 5 minutes away from Pattaya's Walking Street by tuk tuk.

2. The most expensive girls are pretty and 20 years old. They always cost exactly 3, 000 Baht. The cheapest girls are ugly and 30 years old. They are usually willing to pay you 3, 000 Baht for a good time. So when you average it out, the gals are in fact free.

3. I am glad that you asked about the total cost for a week minus airfare, because it saves me the time of sending you a PM to ask how much your airfare is costing you. The Bangkok Shangri La is $10 per night but you can get that down to $5 per night if you use a coupon. Food costs are limited to $2 per day by Thai law. And like we already established, the girls are free. So your total costs $7 per day or $49 per week. Tipping is illegal. Mouse1 was close with his answer, but he should have done more research first.

So now all you need to do is save up $49 (plus your airfare of course) , and away you go!

RazOoops, I didn't do my research! Just a few extra points:

1. Pattaya is well over 10 minutes walk from Bangkok's Tuk Tuk Street.

2. The 30-year-old's will give you a good time but the 20 year-old's will give you a bad time, so again it evens out! Thailand: crazy place, eh? (On reflection, hmmm....)

3. I had assumed that he would get Thailand's 'Stay for 6 Days, Get Sunday Free' deal.

But his major cost will be sponsoring the air fair. That's like an air show, right? Could be $millions.

Enough!

[Monkey1818]

I have heard that most gogos have short-time rooms adjacent to the club.

How much do these rooms cost you, and how are they? Secluded? Clean? Misty's GoGo has rooms. Sometimes they do have some real lookers in there. Can't remember how much I paid, but the rooms were decent and bathroom was clean too. Was told the girl I took only did short time. Which is not my norm, but she was so smoking hot I went upstairs.

[Hotman 666]

First off, I'd like to thank all for the great reports. Great info here!

I'm thinking of going for a week. If someone could answer my questions I'd appreciate it!

1. What's the best Hotels.

2. What's the average price for a good looking young gal 20-30.

3. How much does it cost for a week in total minus air fair

Thanks againANSWERS.

1) The one that you find yourself in with two sweet playmates on a hot afternoon.

2) Hmmm, not easy! 500 to 5, 000+ Baht S / T.

L / T = rather more,or PERHAPS LESS!!! (BUT the time MAY be shorter). You choose!

3) About half as much as most other comparable mongering destinations.

Remember T. I. T. (This Is Thailand.) NOTHING is predictable or makes much sense!

Just RTFF, buy a ticket and GO. It will all become VERY clear.

Enjoy, I do!

Hotman.

P.S. RasSpewtin / Mouse.
If you are quoting prices in $$$ then PLEASE specify US$ ,Sing$ or Au$.$
After all, how is the poor guy supposed to budget if you do not specify the currency. How will he know what his accomodation costs (of 42$ / week) actualy mean!

Come on Guys, lets TRY to be a bit more helpfull! OK?
We SHOULD try to help each other after all.

[Kidrocks]

Cambodia is great, but Vietnam SUCKS for mongering. Don't bother as it's probably the worst country in all of Asia for p4p. Even South Korea is better than Vietnam.Good info Mangofan, thank you. I am doing my research now to plan a 2 week holiday to Southeast Asia. I will fly in and out of Bangkok. I want to stay a few days in Bangkok and a lot of time in Pattaya. I was thinking of going to Cambodia and Vietnam, but I think I'll cross of Vietnam now. I do not want to spend a lot of time and money travelling around. My question is this:

Does anyone have a recommendation for a trip to Cambodia for a few days from either Pattaya or Bangkok? What cities? Mode of transportation? Time / cost of transportaton?

My apologies for posting on the Pattaya forum, but I'm looking for advice from anyone that has worked in a trip to Cambodia while in Thailand.

Also, is September / October considered low season as far as rates for mongering?

Thank you in advance fine gentlemen.

[Pana Nyc]

As I type this report I will make Thailand my home base of operation now this place has everything a man can dream for Rest & Relaxsation and other activities to do besides mongering which no other mongering destination offers. I started out as strictly a Latin-American monger but now I am an Asian convert, from now on I will not waste my vacation time in Latin-America it will be for Asia only and quick short trips to Latin-America. I have been here for week now and it feels like time is going by so quick even though I still have 10 more days.

[Redfield10]

Lots of banters on this board. This is a quick noobie question. From research it seems that AC is much cheaper than Thailand and Pattaya for that matter. It seems the prices double in Thailand. So why are so many people still heading for Thailand and not AC?

If you could do a SE asian trip and have two weeks to spare for AC and Pattaya, how many days would you devote to each? Obviously you would spend a few days in Pattaya just for the experience. What is so good about Pattaya that is not avaiiable in AC?

Thanks, I've been to both, and I'd spend all my time in Pattaya!

[GregLondon]

As I type this report I will make Thailand my home base of operation now this place has everything a man can dream for Rest & Relaxsation and other activities to do besides mongering which no other mongering destination offers. I started out as strictly a Latin-American monger but now I am an Asian convert, from now on I will not waste my vacation time in Latin-America it will be for Asia only and quick short trips to Latin-America. I have been here for week now and it feels like time is going by so quick even though I still have 10 more days.OK. Just don't tell too many of your fellow Americans as they will come and mess things up just as they have done in central and southern America

[Monkey1818]

5 minutes later I went to the same vendor alone and he wanted double what I had just paid. When I complained that I just paid half that he gave me 3/4 as much for the cheaper price.Welcome to Thailand.

[Monkey1818]

My friend is about to head to Pattaya for a few days. I visited a few times in the mid-00s, haven't been there since then. I mentioned to him about the discos at Walking Street, as one possible thing to check out. WHen I was last there, Marine was a pretty good one. A little more user-friendly for pickups than other ones (not too dark) and plenty of girls, including ones getting off of work at go-gos at 2am. Also, EVERY girl there was available to be picked up. It wasn't a mix of normal clubgoers and working girls. It was 100% working girls and guys there to pick them up. (yes I do realize this might be a tall order)

How about these days? What are the best discos to hit nowadays? Do the gogo bars still close at 2? And do the gogo girls still often go to the disco to find customers after work? What would be a good time to head to the disco?

Any info appreciated.

Thanks.

WendellaBest Disco is Insomnia and a lot of the go go girls do go there after work. You can see them all standing all around the place with the other FL. Most of the Go-Go's close are two. Few are open later if the customers are still in there. The later you go to Insomnia the more packed it will be. Went there at midnight and it wasn't that packed. Then went back at 2am, the place was packed full.

[Monkey1818]

I was staying around Bali hai pier and the cheapest motorbike taxi to central WS was 30-40 Baht. Was I ripped off? And what is the minimum for a short trip? At night time they wanted 50-60.You weren't ripped off. 40 baht is normal. And at night it's normal that they want a little more.

[Vikalp]

Hello All,

I have been reading this forum for over a week now. I have booked my tickets to Bangkok for the second week of August and would be staying in Thailand for 10 days. I got to learn that it is the low season time in Pattaya in August. I have a few questions from the people who've experience of mongering in this Adult Disneyland.

1. Is the situation for Indians real bad when it comes to being treated at bars and agogos when compared to their "farang" counterparts (I got freaked out to know this discrimination. As Indians happen to be a good hosts to the visitors coming down to our country)?

2. Would it be difficult to access girls in the low season period?

3. The weather being projected is hot and rainy (couple of hours a day). Can this seriously affect the plans. (We're 3-4 guys planning a stay just for the sake of mongering)

4. Can somebody suggest the best places (if there is highly prevalent racism) for Indians to hang out in any specific bars or agogos?

Thanks in advance.

[Vikalp]

Can somebody describe how do Indians get treated in Pattaya.

I have booked my tickets for this August for 10 days.

[Vikalp]

I met a lady on TLL last month. She has been married to a guy in the Thai Army who she hasn't seen in years since she was 18 or so. Now she is 35 and runs a bar over near the Big Buddha. Her tits are so fucking big that she does not even know what size bra she wears. I looked inside but there is nothing there. She said that she can not buy bras in Thailand because they are not big enough. The ones she have now some lady brought from Norway for her. But anyway.

Since I first started talking to her online she would flat out say how horny she was, how wet she was, and how much she wanted to fuck me. And she always emphasized that she did not want any money. She just wanted to fuck. So I gave her a few chances but because she works at the bar and finishes late nothing was ever able to materialize because I'm usually already with someone by the time she gets off. But still, she would not stop bugging me; texts, calls, instant messages. Finally she had a day off and I went to the bar to meet her and she followed me back to my place.

At first she was a little sheepish but finally loosened up. I don't know when the last time she had dick was. I asked her if she ever goes with the customers from the bar and she said it depends but hardly ever. We did anal and everything else that day. When I finally coaxed her to leave later on that night by telling her I was going out with my friends (which was true) she forgot her cell phone. I did not even realize it until about an hour later when I made up the bed and was ready to walk out. I figured I would just drop it by the bar. When I got downstairs she was waiting outside. We have a security door and she could not remember the room number to call up. I gave her the phone and we both rode off.

Ever since that day it has still been the same thing. She keeps begging me for sex. Would anyone like to take her off my hands? LOL.I'm sure many would have bugged you on giving her contact. I wouldn't mind being with her too. Though my trip is still a couple of months away.

[Jackyboy]

I've been to both, and I'd spend all my time in Pattaya!I used to go to Angeles for months every year and have defended the shit-hole in many discussions. But I have witnessed so many crimes and setups against foreigners the last couple of years, some really scary stuff too, that I have now totally stopped going there and will concentrate on Thailand and Cambodia. Immigration and all kinds of Agencies are now very active pursuing the criminalizing of mongers (sex-tourists) and this leaves us very vulnerable to setups on every level.

At the moment I am having a great time in the Soi Bouakao area, where there is many smaller bars and also a few good, normal priced GOGO places. For some good fun watching the action of the local lady-boy crowd a must see is POOK Bar, which is just outside the place where I stay, the Diana-Oasis hotel. I feel very comfortable there and the location is just great. If you avoid the rip-off places on Walking Str, overall the prices in Thailand are cheaper. My very nice and modern studio costs me about 1000 Phil. Pesos / 750Baht / day / incl. Nice brekkie. I paid almost double for a much inferior hotel room in Angeles and did not even get a brekkie. Girls want anywhere from 700-1000 Baht Lt. Which again is less than the 1500- 2500 Pesos BF in Angeles, wher many of the girls are non-performers, runners or bullshiters. The only real advantage in Angeles is they speak reasonably well English and their is plenty of Aussie mates there to have some good fun.

Heading out for some beers now. More at a later point. Jackyboy

[Pana Nyc]

The distance / price of plane tickets discourage the average American from even thinking about visting Thailand, those two factors means nothing to me. LOL!


OK. Just don't tell too many of your fellow Americans as they will come and mess things up just as they have done in central and southern America

[Chris H]

OK. Just don't tell too many of your fellow Americans as they will come and mess things up just as they have done in central and southern AmericaThats funny, but so true. It may be a little harder for them to get to Asia though.

Chris H

[Gin And Tonic]

Misty's GoGo has rooms. Sometimes they do have some real lookers in there. Can't remember how much I paid, but the rooms were decent and bathroom was clean too. Was told the girl I took only did short time. Which is not my norm, but she was so smoking hot I went upstairs.Had take out both LT & and another time ST with a beer server back at condo in Jomtien. Looked 25 but said she was 39. Was great fun. Found some of the servers (called service staff) at gogos were not taken out often and were alot less jaded but as cute as the dancers.

[Big Larry]

Thats funny, but so true. It may be a little harder for them to get to Asia though.

Chris HActually I have just come back from Phils and I'd say 50% plus of the mongers there are Americans, I think it's a combination of the distance and the thought of an exotic language that keeps the nos of Americans in Thailand down to say 10% of the total? Most Americans are OK with English and familiar with Spanish but many who have not travelled extensively are wary of countries speaking non European languages.

[Monkey1818]

Hello, All,

I have been reading this forum for over a week now. I have booked my tickets to Bangkok for the second week of August and would be staying in Thailand for 10 days. I got to learn that it is the low season time in Pattaya in August. I have a few questions from the people who've experience of mongering in this Adult Disneyland.

1. Is the situation for Indians real bad when it comes to being treated at bars and agogos when compared to their "farang" counterparts (I got freaked out to know this discrimination. As Indians happen to be a good hosts to the visitors coming down to our country)?

2. Would it be difficult to access girls in the low season period?

3. The weather being projected is hot and rainy (couple of hours a day). Can this seriously affect the plans. (We're 3-4 guys planning a stay just for the sake of mongering)

4. Can somebody suggest the best places (if there is highly prevalent racism) for Indians to hang out in any specific bars or agogos?

Thanks in advance. I've been to Patts many times in Aug and you will not have problems finding girls. Sometimes it does rain but sometimes it doesn't, but it shouldn't interfere with your plans. Make the most of it, just chill out have a beer or get a massage and then go on to the next place. Some Thai's don't like Indians, but so does other people in the world and that shouldn't stop you from having a good time. If a particular bar or girl doesn't want to service you because you're Indian, then take your business somewhere else. There will be plenty others that will want your $$$$ because it is low season.

[Monkey1818]

Had take out both LT & and another time ST with a beer server back at condo in Jomtien. Looked 25 but said she was 39. Was great fun. Found some of the servers (called service staff) at gogos were not taken out often and were alot less jaded but as cute as the dancers.Very true on the service staff. They're not required to go out with customers, so they have to somewhat like you to agree to be bar fined. And at a lower rate too.

[Member #1762]

I am an American who lives and works in Japan, and usually make 2 or 3 trips to Thailand a year during my Winter, Spring, and Summer Breaks (I am a teacher, long vacations are a bonus). Over the past few years I have begun spending the month of August in Pattaya, and I love it.

First, fewer customers mean the girls are hungry for customers and you can usually bargain for a better deal. Walking Street Go-Go Girls that demand 3000 baht LT during New Years or April are suddenly open to 2000 baht quite easily.

Also, hotels are MUCH cheaper. For me, I always stay at the Pattaya Bay Resort, it is a great place, and VERY girl friendly. Never a problem with bring back 2 or more girls, and never a joiner fee. If you are into ladyboys or gay, I have noticed that the staff is friendly to guys bringing the, back as well. I will be there 37 days this August break, and they gave me a rate of 25, 000 baht for the whole stay, which is less than 5000 baht a week for a standard room, giving me more money for girls.

As for the attitude of some bars and girls towards Indians and Arabs, I am sad to report I have heard first hand from the girls that they refuse to go with them. I am an American of Italian descent, and one girl didn't want to go with me at first last summer because she thought I was Arab. At the time I had a full beard, so she assumed I was until her friend said I was American. Back in the room, she asked to see my passport because she didn't really believe me. Odd to see such attitudes, but since I live in Japan I am more than used to it. Here, if you are not Japanese, the best places won't let you in the door.

But you will not have trouble finding girls. Soi 6 and Walking Street have lots of girls, and fewer customers means you get more personal service. Beach Road not as crowded, but still some diamonds in the rough there. Also, many bars seem to have longer happy hours to try to get the customers that are there in the door.

[BionicMan]

Hello, All. 2. Would it be difficult to access girls in the low season period?

3. The weather being projected is hot and rainy (couple of hours a day). Can this seriously affect the plans. (We're 3-4 guys planning a stay just for the sake of mongering)

Thanks in advance. I if it rains, well, the best option is to stay in bed and in Thailand you will never be alone in bed if you do not want to.

So nice to be in bed with a beauty during a tropical thunderstsorm (outside) so do not worry (much) about the weather, LOL

[Gin And Tonic]

Very true on the service staff. They're not required to go out with customers, so they have to somewhat like you to agree to be bar fined. And at a lower rate too.At Misty's and Baby Dolls on Soi 15 the BF for service girls during the Christmas break was more than for dancers. Seems they are short of staff during this busiest period.

[Siam Dreamer]

Actually I have just come back from Phils and I'd say 50% plus of the mongers there are Americans, I think it's a combination of the distance and the thought of an exotic language that keeps the nos of Americans in Thailand down to say 10% of the total? Most Americans are OK with English and familiar with Spanish but many who have not travelled extensively are wary of countries speaking non European languages.Totally agree. While there are considerable numbers of Americans working for NGOs, schools (teaching english) , multinational or US based companies with offices in Thailand. You will not see as many Americans mongering / vacationing in Thailand as you will in countries where english where english is more common / widespread (like the Philippines, Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan, Indonesia,). The exception in Thailand is when an entire Navy battle fleet stops in Phuket (thousands of American guys in a week but well behaved). Most of the Americans I met while in Thailand were non mongers / vacationers. They were workers (NGOs, teachers, multinational or US based companies) , in the military. Also met a few who were backpackers, eco / environmental nut jobs. Go figure.

The good thing about the US is that more and a more Americans who travel today. Are actually 1st or 2nd generation immigrants from other countries / nations themselves. And they still speak thair first / parents language (Chinese, Spanish, Thai, Hindu, Laotian, Cambodian, Korean, Tagalong, etc.). There very comfortable with their original parents heritage and embrace travelling to SE Asia. You really see it places like San Francisco, Dallas, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, and NYC of course. However many of these same immigrants who move to or grow up in the US become totally brain washed. Although they are indian asian, black, or brown on the outside. But intentionally choose to embrace all things anglo mentally and psychologically. It's like they literally try to become Anglo-saxon. Especially the Asians. Despite what they see in the mirror, and their actual heritage. Amazing.

[Chachi420]

Easy. Non-working girls generally do not stand and loiter on Beach Road. If you look a woman in her eyes and she smiles back at you approvingly, you're pretty much assured that she is available.

You can also stop and make small talk with the women. I do this a lot while taking photos. Usually, they will say "I go with you," at some point in the conversation.

However, that does not mean every woman on BR is in the "game." I've had women friends, (albeit working girls in clubs) , tell me they've been approached and propositioned. These girls like to go down to the beach and eat som tam in the daytime (and they don't like to be propositioned). Thank FT.

The girl in your pic is HOT. I would certaily part with a few notes for a bite of that!

I will certainly try Beach Road on my upcoming trip. However I don't want to take these girls back to my hotel. There is the obvious security risk and secondly, I don't really want to have to check-in 3-4 different girls into my hotel everyday!

I'm sure there are plenty of short time rooms in Pattaya, but are there any along Beach Road?

[Chachi420]

Can somebody describe how do Indians get treated in Pattaya.

I have booked my tickets for this August for 10 days. Hi Vikalp,

Don't worry too much about. I'm of Indian origin, and have spent many happy days in BKK and Patts.

Never really had any issue with racism. Maybe the odd look or comment here and there, but nothing you wouldn't get in my local town centre in the UK on a Saturday night.

It's simple. Be friendly, presentable and most of all generous. Bar girls are just like any other any other walk of life, most good, some bad.

I once had a girl, who having rode me like a bull, decided to confide in me she didn't go with Indians but had made an exception for me. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.

She then left in the morning, because she was going to see 'Buddha'. I couldn't be bothered to point out the irony.

Have a good trip and enjoy yourself.

[FreakFunk]

I'm going in 2 months time, anyone want to meet over a beer? What am in expected to pay not for shortime / longtime when getting a girl from a go-go bar.

I've not been in 5 years which in Pattaya time is a lifetime I imagine?

How much spending money do you think I need bearing in mind I'm going from the UK.

[Bobbysays]

Can somebody describe how do Indians get treated in Pattaya.

I have booked my tickets for this August for 10 days. I am Indian and was in Pattaya this past Feb. And did not have any problem at all. I took girls from a gogo bar, a night club and even walking street without any issue. Just be normal, smile and talk to them. 2 of the girls asked me that Indians are black how come you have light skin. So maybe they don't have a problem with Indians as such but with anyone with darker skin color.

So I would say go there have fun and don't worry about it. When you get tired of walking around, go to one of those foot massage shops and get a foot massage. Those ladies have magic in their hands.

[Bobbysays]

Although they are indian asian, black, or brown on the outside. But intentionally choose to embrace all things anglo mentally and psychologically. It's like they literally try to become Anglo-saxon. Especially the Asians. Despite what they see in the mirror, and their actual heritage. Amazing.Regarding your point. I am Indian and lived in USA for 10 years. Most Asian immigrants work hard and try to give their children a upper middle class life and these kids growing up tend to mix with whites keeping in their socioeconomic group and therefore grow up to be like them. Its more of a subconscious choice than a conscious decision.

[BeaverHunter]

Thats funny, but so true. It may be a little harder for them to get to Asia though.

Chris HI wouldn't worry for now about the The Americans who fucked things up in places such as the Dominican Republic because of the expense of the airfare as well as 20+ hours on a plane would discourage them. Thats why they go to the DR less than 4 to 6 hours depending where you are from to travel and airfare about $400 give or take maybe $200.

[StueyL]

OK. Just don't tell too many of your fellow Americans as they will come and mess things up just as they have done in central and southern AmericaI think we are already aware of this and heading to Thailand instead of Brazil as the value for money factor kicks in.

[StueyL]

Can somebody describe how do Indians get treated in Pattaya.

I have booked my tickets for this August for 10 days. Lets maybe reverse the question. How do Indians treat Pattaya? Answering this question might provide the answer as to how and why Indians get treated in Thailand.

Don't rent a Jet Ski.

[Lone Punter]

[QUOTE=Member #1762;

As for the attitude of some bars and girls towards Indians and Arabs, I am sad to report I have heard first hand from the girls that they refuse to go with them. Quote



Indians and arabs are perceived in a totally different way by Thais in general. The reason WG shun arabs is by the reputation these people earned themselves. If many treat their own women without consideration, they treat WG like shit, they don't take a no for no and only desperate girls in urgent need for customers take a chance. It has much less to do with racism then awarness of their dignity and safety.

LP

[Monkey1818]

I'm going in 2 months time, anyone want to meet over a beer? What am in expected to pay not for shortime / longtime when getting a girl from a go-go bar.

I've not been in 5 years which in Pattaya time is a lifetime I imagine?

How much spending money do you think I need bearing in mind I'm going from the UK. Everything pretty much the same. 5 years ago from now rate wise. Sure there's new shops and restaurants etc. But the main thing I see different 5 years ago from now is the amount of Russian tourists in Pattaya now.

[Horny Landoora]

Can somebody describe how do Indians get treated in Pattaya.

I have booked my tickets for this August for 10 days. At the end it all matters how good you look and well behaved you are. I am an young Indian in proper shape and have never had problems getting laid with a WG of my choice surely unless she asks for a ridiculous price. I treat the girl well and have never had a problem with leading her back to my place. Although because from a country of 1 Billion you can't speak for all some of fellow country men surely have tarnished the image of whole community due to their attitude towards WGs and their cheap ways. I have heard stories which have even disgusted me with one guy taking a girl and having 4 friends in Rooms ready to pound her as well!

After all for a WG its not always about money and she has the choice to say NO. It depends on your persona to charm her to go with you and obviously negotiate the price. Be fair and get royal treatment.

As for rainy season, pussy never goes out of business be it raining or snowing unless you want to pick from street where surely then choices are limited as no one wants to get drenched!

Happy Mongering,

HL

[Sami29]

I don't think what you are saying is right. The Arabs have their own colony in south Pattatya. Most Thai ladies want the Arabs because they pay too much. Of course most Thai ladies prefer Farangs because they eventually marry them but the Arabs are the second favourte. But it is the Indians that they fear most. First of all, the Indians come to Pattaya not enjoy but to look for work. Most of them work illegally, fuck Thai ladies free and enjoy the cheapest Thai food. For this reason, when a coloured man goes to the bar, the first question a Thai lady asks: 'where you from'. Furthermore, when an Indian man takes a Thai lady to his hotel, there are his friends waiting for her. This is true; Indians humiliate Thai ladies. I saw them sharing one lady with five men in the hotel I stayed. Only Indians who work in Dubai or other Gulf states really enjoy themseves but those coming from Madras or Calcutta, plan to find work in this small town. Shame on them.


[QUOTE=Member #1762;

As for the attitude of some bars and girls towards Indians and Arabs, I am sad to report I have heard first hand from the girls that they refuse to go with them. Quote.

Indians and arabs are perceived in a totally different way by Thais in general. The reason WG shun arabs is by the reputation these people earned themselves. If many treat their own women without consideration, they treat WG like shit, they don't take a no for no and only desperate girls in urgent need for customers take a chance. It has much less to do with racism then awarness of their dignity and safety.

LP

[Stakeout]

What are the rates for HJ, BJ and FS at the massage places on Soi Honey?

[Richmond72]

OK. Just don't tell too many of your fellow Americans as they will come and mess things up just as they have done in central and southern AmericaInteresting perspective considering that Pattaya and Angeles City both started specifically to service Americans.

[Fast Eddie 48]

[QUOTE=Member #1762;

As for the attitude of some bars and girls towards Indians and Arabs, I am sad to report I have heard first hand from the girls that they refuse to go with them. Quote.

Indians and arabs are perceived in a totally different way by Thais in general. The reason WG shun arabs is by the reputation these people earned themselves. If many treat their own women without consideration, they treat WG like shit, they don't take a no for no and only desperate girls in urgent need for customers take a chance. It has much less to do with racism then awarness of their dignity and safety.

LPTo Lone punter,

I have girl tell me arab treat them like shit but they are big spender and most girl in Pattaya don't like to go with Indian, they told me they are smelly and cheap want everything for free the cheaper bastard in the world.

Fast eddi 48

[Vikalp]

Thanks to you all guys.

I hope things won't be that bad when I reach there and more importantly I hope all the girls I go out with form a better opinion of Indians. Really looking forward to all the mongering in Patt.

[Keeniu]

Interesting perspective considering that Pattaya and Angeles City both started specifically to service Americans.There is plenty of downside potential for Thailand. Indonesia and Cambodia are catching up, without the benefit

Of a currency that is 20% more expensive nowadays. And none of this crap barfine after midnight nonsense.

Some of us like to be in bed before 10 with company not suffering from soggy seconds.

I know that the 'foreign' ownership of bars (holding co's) where about 40% (or more) of the punters fees support a western income has not helped. I feel sorry for the 6's and below who do not get a man each night, as 'fixing' prices really means more money to the pretties, why the ordinaries can't discount the bar fine, and do it tough during the lows. Or get stuck with Dalit ,Parraih, Harijans and sandpit nationalities.

But It is also true Thai owned bar are even worse and harder on the girls, more greedy and more sneaky with drink prices. And key money takes the farang bar owners, so they really end up bleeding tea money in a viscous circle.

I really miss the 400 bt 'all in' non-weekend / PHol parlors in Hat Yai. Which travel restrictions make it a no go zone. But it says volumes about Pattaya being about plenty expensive, and the rising barfines needed to grease palms. Like the last election, prices halved overnight when airport scares kept the 'major hotel foyer' gutless freespending tourists away.

[StarChildXXX]

Interesting perspective considering that Pattaya and Angeles City both started specifically to service Americans.Good Lookn Richmond,

And just to clear up some Myths, we AMERICANS didn't mess anything up in S. Or C. America, economics did.

And here's another " rocket to put in your pocket ". Theirs going to be a big migration coming from RIO soon, because I'm telling EVERYBODY! Either roll with us or get rolled over. Makes no difference to me.

[Stakeout]

I have been checking the weather forecast for Pattaya the last weeks and it seems to be raining a lot. How many hours per day is it raining on average at the moment? And how many sun hours are there in between?

[Mangofan]

What are the rates for HJ, BJ and FS at the massage places on Soi Honey?It's been 2 years or so since I've dabbled in that soi, but I always found that I could bargain fairly easily. Cheapest I got was 500 for FS plus 200 for the massage plus another 150 to the mamasan for a kickback. Most I paid was 1000 for FS but that's really overpaying I think. Most will accept 800 for FS. The girl I fucked for 500 was a gem. Only 18 and beautiful. Doubt she's there anymore, though.

[lastlap]

It's been 2 years or so since I've dabbled in that soi, but I always found that I could bargain fairly easily. Cheapest I got was 500 for FS plus 200 for the massage plus another 150 to the mamasan for a kickback. Most I paid was 1000 for FS but that's really overpaying I think. Most will accept 800 for FS. The girl I fucked for 500 was a gem. Only 18 and beautiful. Doubt she's there anymore, though.Usually I pay 300 baht for a HJ and 500 baht for BJ. Never go for boom boom. I always remember one young lady with a big smile asking me after I turned over " What you like, You want boom boom?" I was laughing for a few minutes.

[Gin And Tonic]

Good Lookn Richmond,

And just to clear up some Myths, we AMERICANS didn't mess anything up in S. Or C. America, economics did.

And here's another " rocket to put in your pocket ". Theirs going to be a big migration coming from RIO soon, because I'm telling EVERYBODY! Either roll with us or get rolled over. Makes no difference to me. Be careful in South Pattaya Yank. Many Muslim Arabs out to get you guys. I would stick to A. C. If I were you.

[StarChildXXX]

Be careful in South Pattaya Yank. Many Muslim Arabs out to get you guys. I would stick to A. C. If I were you.I'm a Soldier son,

We don't run from Threats, we Neutralize Threats!

Check our track record before you start running your mouth!

I can Care Less What you Want! I ain't there for you!

[Siam Dreamer]

I'm a Soldier son,

We don't run from Threats, we Neutralize Threats! Well said Starchildxxx. It reminds me of 50 Cent's Lyrics (Rider). Excerpts here:

I done told you boy I'm a soldier boy.

I got no choice but to be a rider.

I approach you boy with the toaster boy.

Hit you point blank range and fire.

I ain't tryin to hear sh*t I'm supposed to be rich.

Mother f*ckers gettin with my bread.

Then I'm 'gon load my sh*t then count my sh*t.

N*gger trip I'll go for your head!

[Redfield10]

The only real advantage in Angeles is they speak reasonably well English and their is plenty of Aussie mates there to have some good fun.

Heading out for some beers now. More at a later point. Jackyboy[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more. Everyone has their preference, and to me, you can't even compare Angeles and Pattaya. Pattaya is better in almost every respect. And I noticed you used the word I always use to describe Angeles. But I use it to refer to Manila and most of the Phils."a sh$&thole!"

[Crazy4Thai]

Well said Starchildxxx. It reminds me of 50 Cent's Lyrics (Rider). Excerpts here:

I done told you boy I'm a soldier boy.

I got no choice but to be a rider.

I approach you boy with the toaster boy.

Hit you point blank range and fire.

I ain't tryin to hear sh*t I'm supposed to be rich.

Mother f*ckers gettin with my bread.

Then I'm 'gon load my sh*t then count my sh*t.

N*gger trip I'll go for your head! DAMN! Makes me proud to be an American!

Guess they'll think twice about bashing us!

[Daddy07]

I have been checking the weather forecast for Pattaya the last weeks and it seems to be raining a lot. How many hours per day is it raining on average at the moment? And how many sun hours are there in between?It's hotter than a god damned blast furnace here now; both day and night.

I wish it would rain a lot more, but the squalls are usually short.

[Fon Tok]

It's hotter than a god damned blast furnace here now; both day and night. I wish it would rain a lot more, but the squalls are usually short.I think you are missing the nice late Spring weather normally found in your neck of the woods.

I was in Pattaya yesterday, and you're right, it was very hot in the afternoon. Good time to snooze a bit. The evening wasn't too bad. Had a nice meal outside and ventured over to Soi LK Metro to catch my taxi back to Bangkok. It was hoppin' there with the new go-go bars and many ladies awaitin' in the beer bars.

I didn't didn't see much of the talent "spec" that I know you prefer, though.

[LittleBigMan]

It's hotter than a god damned blast furnace here now; both day and night.

I wish it would rain a lot more, but the squalls are usually short. Daddy07,

Come on Daddy07, you got to be kidding? HOT it is NOT, beautiful weather here day and night and don't even need A / C at night. Don't let the rain or suppose heat or not stop you from coming. He's only joking!

LBM

[Daddy07]

Daddy07,

Come on Daddy07, you got to be kidding? HOT it is NOT, beautiful weather here day and night and don't even need A / C at night. Don't let the rain or suppose heat or not stop you from coming. He's only joking!

LBMYeah, but you're used to living in Hell, before you moved to Pattaya, my friend.

Pardon me while I go turn on the A/C. :)

[BeaverHunter]

It's hotter than a god damned blast furnace here now; both day and night.

I wish it would rain a lot more, but the squalls are usually short. Have to agree. I was in Pattaya about 3 weeks ago and it was f'ing hot! But it didn't stop me from having a great time.

Beaverhunter

[StarChildXXX]

DAMN! Makes me proud to be an American!

Guess they'll think twice about bashing us! And that's WHATTSUP!

Bulletproof love. S. Dreamer

[Bun Biter]

A few reasons there won't be a significant increase of American mongers in LOS:

1. Poor state of the US economy. Can't afford to come.

2. Depreciation of the dollar. Makes everything more expensive for Joe monger. Can't afford to come.

3. Relatively expensive flights. Can't afford to come.

4. Long flights. More convenient altrenatives a lot closer to home

[Mauldid]

[QUOTE=Bun Biter; 1166581]A few reasons there won't be a significant increase of American mongers in LOS:

Are you kidding me? Most mongering f the scene of SE Asian was started by GIs back in the 'Nam era. Regardless of the economy, Americans are the number one when it comes to traveling. And most of us work overseas so its easy to take a hop to Thailand, Cambodia, Hong Kong and etc.

Have you been in Pattaya when the Star and Stripes are in town, its fucking madness. I tried to actually stay out of Thailand during that time.

Lastly our economy is bad because we keep bailing you mofos out. 555.

Mal

[LittleBigMan]

Yeah, but you're used to living in Hell, before you moved to Pattaya, my friend.

Pardon me while I go turn on the A / C. . Daddy07,

You might be right? I'm somewhat of a sadist I guess? I guess you living on the 35th floor of your condo puts you closer to heaven? If U-turn on the A / C you weren't be able to enjoy the fresh air from your balconey of 180 degree seaview?

Give Mickey my best?

LBM

[Fast Eddie 48]

A few reasons there won't be a significant increase of American mongers in LOS:

1. Poor state of the US economy. Can't afford to come.

2. Depreciation of the dollar. Makes everything more expensive for Joe monger. Can't afford to come.

3. Relatively expensive flights. Can't afford to come.

4. Long flights. More convenient altrenatives a lot closer to homeTo Bun

All the poor American are going to Tijuana Mexico south of the border to bang ugly SW for 20 USD, I still go to Thailand twice a year to cash in the Gold that I purchase at Bangkok chinatown 10 yr ago.

Fast Eddie 48

[Allover]

Stakeout, I've been in Pattaya for 3 days. It's rained for about 20 minutes each day. Rain hasn't been a problem.

[Stakeout]

There is a gogo bar in Walking street called Happy which has 2-3 dancers who are best described as coyotes. Their dance routine is more coreographed than the others', and they have props and body paint.

I have seen these girls accept lady drinks but I have never seen them being barfined. What is the reason for this? Is their asking price for ST and LT very high? Or aren't they barfine-able?

[Bun Biter]

Are you kidding me? Most mongering f the scene of SE Asian was started by GIs back in the 'Nam era. Regardless of the economy, Americans are the number one when it comes to traveling. And most of us work overseas so its easy to take a hop to Thailand, Cambodia, Hong Kong and etc.

Have you been in Pattaya when the Star and Stripes are in town, its fucking madness. I tried to actually stay out of Thailand during that time.

Lastly our economy is bad because we keep bailing you mofos out. 555.

MalIs anyone disputing that the SE Asian mongering scene was largely started by GIs back in the '60s? No.

Now your next claim is news to me: "Americans are the number one when it comes to traveling." WTF? Since when?

Now this I don't understand: "And most of us work overseas so its easy to take a hop to Thailand, Cambodia, Hong Kong and etc." Who exactly are you refering to? Asia based expat Americans, or your average Joe monger from Cincinatti, Duluth or Milwaukee?

Now to your question: yes, I had the good fortune to be in Pattaya once when the place was full of US Navy sailors. For the most part they behaved themselves well and there was very little, if any, fuss. You should try it some time. Yeah, so every once in a while (once or twice a year) the Navy boys hit Pattaya. So what. This doesn't mean that there will be signifacantly more mongers making the trip all the way from the States for a week or two of mongering.

And now to your last claim: "Lastly our economy is bad because we keep bailing you mofos out." Who EXACTLY is "you mofos"? Who are these "you mofos" you are refering to? Please enlighten us.

The people that I had in mind when I posted my four reasons why we won't see significantly more Americans were average Joe monger. You know, our brothers from Cincinatti, Duluth and Milwaukee.

[Mauldid]

[QUOTE=Bun Biter; 1166875]Is anyone disputing that the SE Asian mongering scene was largely started by GIs back in the '60s? No.

Bun,

If you are talking about Joe Schmo from back water US than you right. You didn't specify that.

Yes I was talking about expats living overseas (Europe and Asia) traveling to Thailand. Also I have been there during Cobra Gold several times and decided its not the best time for me to be in Pattaya. Maybe we are the number travelers but we are the number spenders when it comes to traveling.

And finally,"you mofos" are the countries that the USA helped out after internal conflicts, wars and natural disasters have decimated their economy and way of life.

Don't hate 555

[Bkk247]

Usually I pay 300 baht for a HJ and 500 baht for BJ. Never go for boom boom. I always remember one young lady with a big smile asking me after I turned over " What you like, You want boom boom?" I was laughing for a few minutes.Why never go for boom boom?

[LittleBigMan]

I'm a American but I recently saw a article relating to Americans and their travel. It was stated something like 10% of Americans actually have a Passport? After living here for a number of years and meeting different people from around the world and listening to their stories I might tend to agree with that number. I have found although others are no different that us they tend to travel more abroad for work and holidays and more open minded to other cultures because of that. I have travel throughout the USA and found that many people particularly working in government seem to have no idea what is going on outside of the world.

A few years ago I was at the USA Embassy I was in a interview with one of their young reps, How long she had been living in Thailand I have no idea. But she was basically telling me I was a liar although I had a letter from her boss in the USA backing up my contention. Not wanting to be rude I told her you might want to go back to our country or pay more attention as to what is going on back home. This was before Obama and before the financial meltdown!

I have never had any problems with any soldiers in Pattaya, I have met many and the majority are good kids and guys and are blowing off steam. It is no different than any individual that has worked his ass off all year and come for a holiday to blow off and clean their pipes for a few days or weeks. No culture or race has a lock on being angels or the devil?

To answer the question, As a American the Mofos he is talking about in general are the countries in the MiddleEast that are given money to keep peace each year without any accountibility. (I don't need to name every country) Entitlement institution like the U. N. NATO, that we pay the highest but get very little in return. Recently we want to forgive 1 billion to a country, we forgave 50 billion to Pakistan so that we can flight over their country to get to Iraq? We give and forgive? And continue to give not loan them 20 billion to a country that their people didn't want because they hate us. I found out we even gave China 500, 000 for them to study the behavior of P4P, you believe that? But reality is this as Americans our representatiive want to be number one and can't except anything less so we pay the world to be our friends when so many aren't. Yes our country is or was number #1 but our dollar is the shits for many reasons?

When you look at the stats you will see when it comes to travel, Americans majority travel within their own country and go camping etc. When you speak to govenment workers that handle your pension etc. And you tell them you live in Thailand, they have no idea what it looks like outside their own little box?

These opinions do not support any particular person and their discussion its just my opinion on a situation you or I could ever discuss with a satisfactory ending.

LBM

[Jackyboy]

Having fun in Pattaya with plenty of available, sexy talent, but tons of Indians & Arabs.

A warning to all. 2 nights ago a fellow monger I met on the pool in Diana-Estate, called me 3 am on the internal phone of the Estate, interrupting some good action with my sexy Lek. He asked me to come over to his privately rented room immediately, as he felt seriously ill and dizzy. I headed over to his room and soon suspected what must have happened, as Diana-Oasis has very good security warnings in all their studios and I actually had read all of it.

The very strange and nervous behavior of the about 30 yr. Old, heavily tattooed girl he had in the room, raised my suspicions immediately. My friend was down on the sofa, looked seriously out of it and could hardly speak. When I asked the girl if they had drunk too much or taken any pills, she got very evasive first and then openly aggressive and just walked out of the room. At this point I did not add up all the facts and was more concerned about the well-being of my friend, so when security called, I told them they could let the girl go as my friend was sick.

After a few more minutes I finally got out of him, that they had been drinking in a small karaoke place nearby and the girl had offered him some "Herbal Thai Whisky" for extra power, just before they had left to go back to the room.

Arriving at his room he soon started feeling very drunk, dizzy and tired.

As I got very concerned, I called the manager of Diana-Oasis, who is very nice and she came soon with a friend of the owner. In the meantime my friend had totally passed out. The guy Kh. Meow brought, was aware of the situation and immediately told me, my friend most probably had been drugged to be robbed. He checked my friends vitals and stayed with me in the room all night to keep an eye on him, in case we needed to get him to the hospital.

He explained me that every year there was cases of naive mongers, mostly newcomers, who had been drugged and after a case with one of their customers, an elderly American a couple years back, that got totally cleaned out the second day of his retirement to Thailand, they had posted very clear warnings in all studios and even made it a point to explain new customers, not familiar with Pattaya, some of the dangers. Apparently there is some veterinary knock-out drops these girls use, which leave the victim out of it and with memory laps for up to a full day. Many of the ladies come down from Bangkok and / or disappear for a while after a successful rip-off.

It feels definitely much more scary when you experience this first hand and not just read about it in the Pattaya press.

I was glad for the help I got in the middle of the night from the people of Oasis, which obviously care about their guest and seem to have a lot of experience, according to the stories we exchanged during that night.

So what to learn: NEVER accept any drinks, brought or bought by a girl. I was told, usually the trick is to get a last minute drink from a nearby 7/11, just before entering the room, as the drops can take affect very fast.

By the way, my friend was slowly getting back on his feed only the next evening and could hardly remember anything. Thanks to his last minute phone call, his valuables are still with him. Thanks for the great help to Meow and her people. You are a pearl.

[Jackyboy]

I enjoy a nice soapy, body massage once in a while. Just tried out the place that used to be Honey-Inn hotel. No more need to go all the way to the Big C / North Pattaya area and some of the older places. This place is brand new and they had some hot chicks, definitely will be back.

http://www.honeyinnpattaya.com/gallaery.htm

A bonus, there was no Indians and Arabs. JB.

[Jackyboy]

Having fun in Pattaya with plenty of available, sexy talent, but tons of Indians & Arabs.

A warning to all. 2 nights ago a fellow monger I met on the pool in Diana-Estate, called me 3 am on the internal phone of the Estate, interrupting some good action with my sexy Lek. He asked me to come over to his privately rented room immediately, as he felt seriously ill and dizzy. I headed over to his room and soon suspected what must have happened, as Diana-Oasis has very good security warnings in all their studios and I actually had read all of it.

The very strange and nervous behavior of the about 30 yr. Old, heavily tattooed girl he had in the room, raised my suspicions immediately. My friend was down on the sofa, looked seriously out of it and could hardly speak. When I asked the girl if they had drunk too much or taken any pills, she got very evasive first and then openly aggressive and just walked out of the room. At this point I did not add up all the facts and was more concerned about the well-being of my friend, so when security called, I told them they could let the girl go as my friend was sick.

After a few more minutes I finally got out of him, that they had been drinking in a small karaoke place nearby and the girl had offered him some "Herbal Thai Whisky" for extra power, just before they had left to go back to the room.

Arriving at his room he soon started feeling very drunk, dizzy and tired.

As I got very concerned, I called the manager of Diana-Oasis, who is very nice and she came soon with a friend of the owner. In the meantime my friend had totally passed out. The guy Kh. Meow brought, was aware of the situation and immediately told me, my friend most probably had been drugged to be robbed. He checked my friends vitals and stayed with me in the room all night to keep an eye on him, in case we needed to get him to the hospital.

He explained me that every year there was cases of naive mongers, mostly newcomers, who had been drugged and after a case with one of their customers, an elderly American a couple years back, that got totally cleaned out the second day of his retirement to Thailand, they had posted very clear warnings in all studios and even made it a point to explain new customers, not familiar with Pattaya, some of the dangers. Apparently there is some veterinary knock-out drops these girls use, which leave the victim out of it and with memory laps for up to a full day. Many of the ladies come down from Bangkok and / or disappear for a while after a successful rip-off.

It feels definitely much more scary when you experience this first hand and not just read about it in the Pattaya press.

I was glad for the help I got in the middle of the night from the people of Oasis, which obviously care about their guest and seem to have a lot of experience, according to the stories we exchanged during that night.

So what to learn: NEVER accept any drinks, brought or bought by a girl. I was told, usually the trick is to get a last minute drink from a nearby 7/11, just before entering the room, as the drops can take affect very fast.

By the way, my friend was slowly getting back on his feed only the next evening and could hardly remember anything. Thanks to his last minute phone call, his valuables are still with him. Thanks for the great help to Meow and her people. You are a pearl. Http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/06/17/iranian-found-drugged-in-pattaya-culprit-arrested/

http://www.google.co.th/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=drugged+in+Pattaya

[Stakeout]

If you want to ask a mamasan which of the girls are shaven, or ask a girl if she is shaven, how do you ask this in Thai?

[Anders Svensson]

I am taking my girlfriend to Pattaya in a couple of months (yeah yeah, I know it is like taking food to a restaurant.) and she is up for pretty much anything exciting. Any suggestions out there on what could be a cool place to go to / activites etc that works for a couple? I know of all the standard stuff but would be really grateful for tips on stuff that is "out of the ordinary".

We have done a fair amount of swinging in Europe and she has already said she will get a couple of girls for us to have fun with.

Anything else? Excellent shows, special clubs? Any places that caters for women (also)? Any swinging clubs?

Anders

[Jackyboy]

If you want to ask a mamasan which of the girls are shaven, or ask a girl if she is shaven, how do you ask this in Thai?H&772; &299; kon.

&3627; &3637; &3650; &3585; &3609;

Have fun! JB.

[Stakeout]

H&772; &299; kon.

&3627; &3637; &3650; &3585; &3609;

Have fun! JB. How do I decipher this?

[Stakeout]

What decent Korean BBQ restaurants are there in Pattaya?

[Satyr23]

I am taking my girlfriend to Pattaya in a couple of months (yeah yeah, I know it is like taking food to a restaurant.) and she is up for pretty much anything exciting. Any suggestions out there on what could be a cool place to go to / activites etc that works for a couple? I know of all the standard stuff but would be really grateful for tips on stuff that is "out of the ordinary".

We have done a fair amount of swinging in Europe and she has already said she will get a couple of girls for us to have fun with.

Anything else? Excellent shows, special clubs? Any places that caters for women (also)? Any swinging clubs?

AndersDEVIL'S DEN! They are very couples friendly with all girls being genuinely bisexual and trained to work in teams of two you should have a blast. If you haven't heard about this place, I highly recommend checking out devilsdenpattaya. Com. I've recieved the most enthusiastic and reliable service there. It's like being a porn director and actor at the same time, minus the camera crew. They will do literally everything with you and your girl and this is the cleanest place I have ever seen in terms of the girls themselves. They are all regularly tested, have paperwork to prove it, shower you and themselves before and after sessions, use listerine excessively before and after sessions and are condom nazis. The Devil's Den satisfaction guarantee doesn't hurt either!

[Satyr23]

DEVIL'S DEN! They are very couples friendly with all girls being genuinely bisexual and trained to work in teams of two you should have a blast. If you haven't heard about this place, I highly recommend checking out devilsdenpattaya. Com. I've recieved the most enthusiastic and reliable service there. It's like being a porn director and actor at the same time, minus the camera crew. They will do literally everything with you and your girl and this is the cleanest place I have ever seen in terms of the girls themselves. They are all regularly tested, have paperwork to prove it, shower you and themselves before and after sessions, use listerine excessively before and after sessions and are condom nazis. The Devil's Den satisfaction guarantee doesn't hurt either!Sorry, didn't notice the 'out of the ordinary' part. In that case I would recommend. DEVILS DEN! How about a two hot bisexual thai beauties with a large purse filled with strap-ons and sex toys, a swing in every room and the infamous selection format! When you're ready the girls are brought in and stand on either side of a yellow line. Girls on the left all do anal, girl on the right don't. Things can get pretty extraordinary and kinky upstairs! The website has profile pics and descriptions of what girls will and won't do. Have fun!

[Michi]

Sorry, didn't notice the 'out of the ordinary' part. In that case I would recommend. DEVILS DEN! How about a two hot bisexual thai beauties with a large purse filled with strap-ons and sex toys, a swing in every room and the infamous selection format! When you're ready the girls are brought in and stand on either side of a yellow line. Girls on the left all do anal, girl on the right don't. Things can get pretty extraordinary and kinky upstairs! The website has profile pics and descriptions of what girls will and won't do. Have fun!Its the girls on the right side of the line (if you stand in front of them) that do all the 3 holes. Just to clarify.

Mike

[Jackyboy]

H&772; &299; kon.

&3627; &3637; &3650; &3585; &3609;

Have fun! JB. Sorry, This came out wrong by trying to post / paste phonetically. I will re-post after asking a shaved pussy later today.

[Jackyboy]

Sorry, This came out wrong by trying to post / paste phonetically. I will re-post after asking a shaved pussy later today.Print this and show to mamasan or say or just do sign language: "Hi kon mei, kap?" The "Hi" ends high, the "kon" is short.

&3627; &3637; &3650; &3585; &3609; ?

[Stl Danish]

I'm an American with a lot of overseas experience, though I do live in the states (but a newbie to the mongering aspect) , and I just want to chime in on this.

First of all, the whole "only 10% of Americans have passports" statement that various Europeans like to throw around and hold over our heads, as if it makes us somehow inferior as a society. That figure is almost certainly not correct in 2011 anyway.

Pre-9/11, Americans didn't need a passport to go to Canada or Mexico, the two nations we actually share a land-border with. Hence, a lot of people simply didn't need one.

Second, our country is roughly as big as Europe by itself. We have a lot of land, with distinctive climates and local cultures to visit without ever having to leave our country. So true, a lot of Americans don't travel internationally, because a guy from Buffalo, NY can get a similar experience by visiting the US Gulf Coast that someone from Finland can get by visiting the South of France. And it's about the same distance away. A guy living in Switzerland is a few hours drive away from a half dozen countries. A guy living in Kansas City is a 16 hour drive from the US border with anywhere.

With that said, there are certainly a lot of Americans, who maybe fall into the second category above, who are on their first overseas excursion and are naive about other countries and their cultures. I would say that these type of people are a lot more likely to be found in Western Europe or the Carribean though, than the Far East.

Lastly, what a lot of Europeans don't realize is that Americans sometimes think you're obnoxious when you visit our country too. Imagine that!

It's all good though. I don't understand why people from both sides of the pond get so nationalistic about it, either way. Probably has more than a little to do with liquid courage.

[Maa Paa]

If you want to ask a mamasan which of the girls are shaven, or ask a girl if she is shaven, how do you ask this in Thai?Always difficult to transscribe the Thai words into English. Espspecially for me as a German.

I will try to approach.

Tinee mee poojing gon moi mai? (tini: mi: pu:ying go:rn moi mai?)

Not sure if it's totally correct Thai. But mamasan will know what you like, sure.

Maa Paa

[Sorokonozka]

If you want to ask a mamasan which of the girls are shaven, or ask a girl if she is shaven, how do you ask this in Thai?The Thai word for pubic hair is "moi"

I would simply point to the lady and ask "Moi?"

[Chachi420]

This forum seems to be taking a distinctly anti Indian-Arab tone.

It astounds me how sex tourists can manage to garner a superiority complex.

To those Indians on this forum concerned about the possible racist behaviour of the Thai people, maybe it's not the bargirls, bar owners or club bouncers you should be worried about.

[LittleBigMan]

I'm an American with a lot of overseas experience, though I do live in the states (but a newbie to the mongering aspect) , and I just want to chime in on this.

First of all, the whole "only 10% of Americans have passports" statement that various Europeans like to throw around and hold over our heads, as if it makes us somehow inferior as a society. That figure is almost certainly not correct in 2011 anyway.

Pre-9/11, Americans didn't need a passport to go to Canada or Mexico, the two nations we actually share a land-border with. Hence, a lot of people simply didn't need one.

Second, our country is roughly as big as Europe by itself. We have a lot of land, with distinctive climates and local cultures to visit without ever having to leave our country. So true, a lot of Americans don't travel internationally, because a guy from Buffalo, NY can get a similar experience by visiting the US Gulf Coast that someone from Finland can get by visiting the South of France. And it's about the same distance away. A guy living in Switzerland is a few hours drive away from a half dozen countries. A guy living in Kansas City is a 16 hour drive from the US border with anywhere.

With that said, there are certainly a lot of Americans, who maybe fall into the second category above, who are on their first overseas excursion and are naive about other countries and their cultures. I would say that these type of people are a lot more likely to be found in Western Europe or the Carribean though, than the Far East.

Lastly, what a lot of Europeans don't realize is that Americans sometimes think you're obnoxious when you visit our country too. Imagine that!

It's all good though. I don't understand why people from both sides of the pond get so nationalistic about it, either way. Probably has more than a little to do with liquid courage. S. D,

Not to drag on the conversation because I agree with much of your points except the following since I think you misunderstood what was written by me so I feel a response is necessary on those points.

Statement regarding the 10, if you noted I said I recently read a article regarding the percentage it didn't come from Europeans throwing it around while sitting around having a few cold one! Whether it is true or not isn't the point!

Also, your statement about a guy from N.Y. going to just the Gulf can get the same experience backup my contention that most American are ignorant as to what is going on outside the borders ( Canada/Mexico ) that is like saying a guy from Buffalo goes on a vacation to San Francisco Chinatown can get the same experience as someone actually going to Hong Kong?

You are correct regarding Canada and Mexico pre-9/11, travel. But whether one needs a passport for Canada or Mexico isn't the point the point is actually having one through application process was the point I was making. My own personal view is when traveling to Canada and Mexico it really doesn't count since as you noted the borders are shared. Going to Canada/Mexico is like going from S.F. to L.A. which is like not going on a vacation at all? My views in general regarding traveling is actually crossing a ocean to getting to the place. On a lighter note even after 9/11 you still don't need a passport. The number of illegal immigrants still coming into the USA from share borders also indicates you still don't need one?

LBM

[Iching]

I'm an American with a lot of overseas experience, though I do live in the states (but a newbie to the mongering aspect) , and I just want to chime in on this.

First of all, the whole "only 10% of Americans have passports" statement that various Europeans like to throw around and hold over our heads, as if it makes us somehow inferior as a society. That figure is almost certainly not correct in 2011 anyway.

Pre-9/11, Americans didn't need a passport to go to Canada or Mexico, the two nations we actually share a land-border with. Hence, a lot of people simply didn't need one.

Second, our country is roughly as big as Europe by itself. We have a lot of land, with distinctive climates and local cultures to visit without ever having to leave our country. So true, a lot of Americans don't travel internationally, because a guy from Buffalo, NY can get a similar experience by visiting the US Gulf Coast that someone from Finland can get by visiting the South of France. And it's about the same distance away. A guy living in Switzerland is a few hours drive away from a half dozen countries. A guy living in Kansas City is a 16 hour drive from the US border with anywhere.

With that said, there are certainly a lot of Americans, who maybe fall into the second category above, who are on their first overseas excursion and are naive about other countries and their cultures. I would say that these type of people are a lot more likely to be found in Western Europe or the Carribean though, than the Far East.

Lastly, what a lot of Europeans don't realize is that Americans sometimes think you're obnoxious when you visit our country too. Imagine that!

It's all good though. I don't understand why people from both sides of the pond get so nationalistic about it, either way. Probably has more than a little to do with liquid courage. Thanks for saving us brits in the 2nd world war, we'd be speaking german if it wasn't for you US people.

[Run Mann]

The Thai word for pubic hair is "moi"

I would simply point to the lady and ask "Moi?"Cun is a better word.

[LittleBigMan]

Thanks for saving us brits in the 2nd world war, we'd be speaking german if it wasn't for you US people.Your'e welcome and don't be obnoxious!

LBM

[Stakeout]

During the peak of the high season the price for ST with a gogo girl was 2 000 baht. LT seemed to be out of the question.

Now, during the low season, what is the normal price for ST and LT with gogo girl?

[Vikalp]

This forum seems to be taking a distinctly anti Indian-Arab tone.

It astounds me how sex tourists can manage to garner a superiority complex.

To those Indians on this forum concerned about the possible racist behaviour of the Thai people, maybe it's not the bargirls, bar owners or club bouncers you should be worried about. Dear friend,

I understand what you hint. However as per my experience there are many amazing people on this website who do not harness any indecent behavior against Indians and in fact have been very friendly towards giving suggestions, advice and opinions, sharing there experiences with us.

However, there are a few insecure guys out here who feel that being white is a sign of superiority. It is disgraceful but I would request you not to form any opinion of these morons as the majority of the people on this forum are very nice people helping others to learn from their experiences without any shade of racist emotion.

So don't lose heart on the comment of a person who does not have the capacity to live and comment under the limits of dignity.

Cheers!

[BionicMan]

I'm an American with a lot of overseas experience, though I do live in the states (but a newbie to the mongering aspect) , and I just want to chime in on this.

I think that the main issue is that, compared to' other nationals, american have less habit to' interact with other people, cultures.

As much as there Are substantial differences between a new yorker and a guy from Dallas or Denver or California, the basic american roots are the same.

You go to' Europe where there are two dozens of countries, a dozen languages. All with their history, past, culture.

This automatically broadens the people's mind.

A mere fact. Nothing to' do with losers or winners.

The type of media in the States also favours a lot the creation and diffusione of stereotypes.

I am european and I will never forget the question of a young kit: "do you have TV in your country?"

That wasin 1973: the man had already been on the moon. Still.

I don't want to take into politics but it is a fact the USA have made huge mistakes in their overseas military actions. Mainly due to the differential culture and not prepared to deal with other cultures.

Much easier for us Europeans.

In 5-7 hrs you can go through 2-3 different countries and languages!

[Stakeout]

You go to' Europe where there are two dozens of countries, a dozen languages.There are more like twenty dozen languages spoken in Europe, actually.

[Sorokonozka]

Cun is a better word.No it's not.

Moi is easy to pronounce, is not a euphemism, and is the correct word for pubic or genital hair.

[Stakeout]

So "no pubic hair" would be "mai moi", right?

How do you say "I want no pubic hair"?

[Run Mann]

No it's not.

Moi is easy to pronounce, is not a euphemism, and is the correct word for pubic or genital hair. Cun is easy to pronounce and is "not a euphemism." It is the proper word.

[Crocodilexp]

Cun is a better word.Do you mean "glon" (&3585; &3621; &3657; &3629; &3609;) = to shave? Or is it "cun" as in "bun" or "****"?

Moi (&3617; &3629; &3618;) = pubic hair.

Not the same word.

Not sure why, I'd rather go with "glon mai?" ("are you shaved?") rather than "mee moi mai?" ("do you have pubic hair?") , although both are correct.

Edit: stupid forum software, doesn't accept Thai characters.

[BionicMan]

There are more like twenty dozen languages spoken in Europe, actually.Was lazy to count them.

A quick check brought me to at least 15, then we can expand of course, but I think the concept was clear vs. USA where they english and spanish

[Maa Paa]

No it's not.

Moi is easy to pronounce, is not a euphemism, and is the correct word for pubic or genital hair. I am quite sure that you are right.

Since I started to learn the basics of Thai language (1994) I have never heard or seen the word cun.

My basic knowledge doesn't cover all words. But moi will be the best choice.

Maa Paa

[Maa Paa]

........ Edit: stupid forum software, doesn't accept Thai characters.Let me try to copy some Thai characters: We are talking about. &3650; &3585; &3609; . Gohn.

I can paste the characters here. Not sure how it will come out when I'm going to add my report to the forum.

No, not working. Failed in the preview already, sorry.

Used Google translater, took a pic of the result and will attach it here.

Maa Paa

[Gin And Tonic]

What decent Korean BBQ restaurants are there in Pattaya?Try Central Festival mall, north side of I think 5th floor

[Stakeout]

Thanks to all you Thai speakers who helped me with my question on pubic hair. I have one more language question, if you can bear with me.

When receiving a HJ, I hate it when the girl stops at the moment I climax.

So how do I say "don't stop","keep going" or "continue" in Thai (whatever is the most appropriate in this situation)?

[Maa Paa]

Thanks to all you Thai speakers who helped me with my question on pubic hair. I have one more language question, if you can bear with me.

When receiving a HJ, I hate it when the girl stops at the moment I climax.

So how do I say "don't stop","keep going" or "continue" in Thai (whatever is the most appropriate in this situation)? Hm. Just "don't stop" should be something like "harm yud","mai dtong yud","mai dai yud" or "mai ao yud". (Here the letter "you" in "yud" is pronounced like the short "oo" in the word "good".

But you can also try to tell her: "go on". Then it would be something like "dtor" or "tum dtor". (Here the letter "you" in "tum" is pronounced like the short "o" in the word "cum".

Hope it will help you.

Maa Paa

[Stakeout]

But you can also try to tell her: "go on". Then it would be something like "dtor" or "tum dtor".Thanks. What sound does *"dt" represent?

[Maa Paa]

Thanks. What sound does *"dt" represent?Just as it is written here. A combined sound of "the" and "t".

"the" has a more soft sound,"t" a bit harder. Try the english word "door" but include the "t" in second position (dtoor).

Maa Paa

[Maa Paa]

Just as it is written here. A combined sound of "the" and "t".

"the" has a more soft sound,"t" a bit harder. Try the english word "door" but include the "t" in second position (dtoor).

Maa PaaSorry for my wrong spelling, see it just now. It should be the was it is here in the quote: "the" and "t". Not "the" and "t".

Maa Paa

(Oh, good forum - but the software ...... I was quite sure that I wrote " t " and " d " - but it's coming out as "the" again. Sorry)

[New Old Guy]

I think that the main issue is that, compared to' other nationals, american have less habit to' interact with other people, cultures.

As much as there Are substantial differences between a new yorker and a guy from Dallas or Denver or California, the basic american roots are the same.

You go to' Europe where there are two dozens of countries, a dozen languages. All with their history, past, culture.

This automatically broadens the people's mind.

A mere fact. Nothing to' do with losers or winners.

The type of media in the States also favours a lot the creation and diffusione of stereotypes.

I am european and I will never forget the question of a young kit: "do you have TV in your country?"

That wasin 1973: the man had already been on the moon. Still.

I don't want to take into politics but it is a fact the USA have made huge mistakes in their overseas military actions. Mainly due to the differential culture and not prepared to deal with other cultures.

Much easier for us Europeans.

In 5-7 hrs you can go through 2-3 different countries and languages! You talk too much. Watch out for black vans around your house. No matter where you are.

[Bill Miami]

Hello, I have not posted for a while. I sent these videos to my friends back home to try and give them some idea of what it is like here. But, as I tell them, until you come here, you will really NEVER really know. I hope you like them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fqQ0W1jovg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHdC4XLUyyM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5XfsubYHls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUWJ1hoU8NE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lirkbduhoak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfTo6twYkPc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWnhip9d4W0&playnext=1&list=PL7BEDC079FF97EE57

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk6-W2OKISg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxJl2EUGnCY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF1bs5EtjBY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JLgdDZz374&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSBxiTLQWx4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF742GkxxSs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BCxZ3QWnzQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXD5OIHc3QI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7JHBxS-g3M&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tln1QnPXHs&feature=related

[Stl Danish]

S. D,

Not to drag on the conversation because I agree with much of your points except the following since I think you misunderstood what was written by me so I feel a response is necessary on those points.

Statement regarding the 10, if you noted I said I recently read a article regarding the percentage it didn't come from Europeans throwing it around while sitting around having a few cold one! Whether it is true or not isn't the point!

Also, your statement about a guy from N. Y. Going to just the Gulf can get the same experience backup my contention that most American are ignorant as to what is going on outside the borders (Canada / Mexico) that is like saying a guy from Buffalo goes on a vacation to San Francisco Chinatown can get the same experience as someone actually going to Hong Kong?

You are correct regarding Canada and Mexico pre-9/11, travel. But whether one needs a passport for Canada or Mexico isn't the point the point is actually having one through application process was the point I was making. My own personal view is when traveling to Canada and Mexico it really doesn't count since as you noted the borders are shared. Going to Canada / Mexico is like going from S. F. To L. A. Which is like not going on a vacation at all? My views in general regarding traveling is actually crossing a ocean to getting to the place. On a lighter note even after 9/11 you still don't need a passport. The number of illegal immigrants still coming into the USA from share borders also indicates you still don't need one?

LBMLBM. True true, on the not needing a passport!

As far as that other statement about Canada / Mexico being like going from SF to LA.

Going to Mexico (real Mexico, not touristy-Cancun or whatever) is night and day from the United States, heh. Canada I think you can make that argument safely, if you're willing to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off a few Canadians in the process. They're not very fond of the whole "51st state" concept, and if you watched the aftermath of the hockey playoffs last week you know what happens when you make them mad!

[Stl Danish]

I think that the main issue is that, compared to' other nationals, american have less habit to' interact with other people, cultures.

As much as there Are substantial differences between a new yorker and a guy from Dallas or Denver or California, the basic american roots are the same.

You go to' Europe where there are two dozens of countries, a dozen languages. All with their history, past, culture.

This automatically broadens the people's mind.

A mere fact. Nothing to' do with losers or winners.

The type of media in the States also favours a lot the creation and diffusione of stereotypes.

I am european and I will never forget the question of a young kit: "do you have TV in your country?"

That wasin 1973: the man had already been on the moon. Still.

I don't want to take into politics but it is a fact the USA have made huge mistakes in their overseas military actions. Mainly due to the differential culture and not prepared to deal with other cultures.

Much easier for us Europeans.

In 5-7 hrs you can go through 2-3 different countries and languages! I don't think the US mistakes in military action have anything to do with "culture" per say. You could argue that as a result of these military actions, there is now a tension between Americans and Arab / Muslim countries, maybe that's what you're saying?

In a sense, Americans are more willing to accept other cultures since our own is such a "melting pot" of different places. Contrast this with say, Finland. Where 95% of the population comes from the same background.

The proximity of other countries Europeans is one factor to consider, but in my experience, Western European societies are not dramatically different from one another. Of course, there are differences, but when you compare (just to pick two) Denmark and Austria, there's less of a difference than comparing Canada to Vietnam.

Perhaps Europeans are just better international travelers, since it's more common there.

Who knows? Like everything else in life it's shades of gray.

You can get obnoxious people from any culture, whether it be Americans, Europeans, or anyplace else.

[Stl Danish]

Thanks for saving us brits in the 2nd world war, we'd be speaking german if it wasn't for you US people.Anytime man. My grandfather would be happy to know that he saved your grandmother from certain Deutsch.

[BionicMan]

I don't think the US mistakes in military action have anything to do with "culture" per say. You could argue that as a result of these military actions, there is now a tension between Americans and Arab / Muslim countries, maybe that's what you're saying? You can get obnoxious people from any culture, whether it be Americans, Europeans, or anyplace else.Not planning to extend the talks on cultural differences on Pattaya reports forum, but my main point on the differences have been exploited by you too so there is a common opinion.

On the more touchy subject of some "failure", I refer to the unawareness from the major part of the troops sent there of the environment (including cultural).

It opened a lot of wrong actions, rather than smoothing things.

Especially when interacting with the population (and military actions of recent years do have a lot to do with interaction with the locals).

I agree that US is huge different nationalities pot, but I am not so 100% sure about the real melting as.

A) the "immigrants" tend to carry on their cultural habits within their group.

Be) the "immigrants" do have to adapt (quickly) to the US rules to be able to stay there.

I am not criticizing either behaviour, but just observing.

We european are more used to travel to foreing countries (as they are also next door in many cases) and we experienced other cultures in their home ground.

The US people experience, for the most of the cases, other cultures not in the original and genuine homeground (see above point a).

Just think about how many grey areas there are in Europe nearby borders (France to Italy, to Germany. Etc) Italy to Austria, to Slovenia and so on and so on). These represent a sort of cultural enrichment (or exchange).

I am done now. As fully OT. .

[Maa Paa]

Anytime man. My grandfather would be happy to know that he saved your grandmother from certain Deutsch.Anything wrong here with Germans or German language?

Maa Paa

[Mr Enternational]

I agree that US is huge different nationalities pot, but I am not so 100% sure about the real melting as.

A) the "immigrants" tend to carry on their cultural habits within their group.

Be) the "immigrants" do have to adapt (quickly) to the US rules to be able to stay there.

I am not criticizing either behaviour, but just observing. The whole Melting Pot thing was just some late 18th century fairytale bullshit. These days the theory has been revamped and is taught with the country being compared to a Salad Bowl. In a Salad Bowl various distinct ingredients compose the overall dish. They do touch and interact, but do not blend together to form something that no longer leaves the orignal ingredients indistinguishable. For the most part when a salad is complete you can still pick out the cucumbers, tomatoes, and chesse and recognize it as such. In a melting pot everything is jumbled in and the finished product is something that totally different and the individual ingredients are not recognizable. The USA has never been such a thing.

[Syzygies]

Hm. Just "don't stop" should be something like "harm yud","mai dtong yud","mai dai yud" or "mai ao yud". (Here the letter "you" in "yud" is pronounced like the short "oo" in the word "good".

But you can also try to tell her: "go on". Then it would be something like "dtor" or "tum dtor". (Here the letter "you" in "tum" is pronounced like the short "o" in the word "cum".

Hope it will help you.

Maa Paa"yar yoot" (yaa yut. Depends how you want to spell it) simply means "don't stop!". So that is the best one here.

"mai dtong yud" is okay but means "its not necessary to stop", the other subtle variations are not as good even though will be probably understood."harm yoot" is too formal and would be found on a traffic sign "stopping is forbidden"."mai dai yud" really means "I didn't stop" (or "didn't get to stop"). Past tense.

"dt" is described as an unaspirated (no puff of air)"t" sound as in the word "hotmail" where the "t" loses its trailing hiss of air, replaced by a brief stop of the sound, as there is not time to make that hiss sound before moving on to the next syllable. This makes it a bit similar to a "the" but missing the initial hum before main sound.

Yes, I am having formal Thai Language lessons. No, I will not mention my school. Search the internet.

[Syzygies]

anything wrong here with germans or german language?

maa paanothing at all. its not the language, its only the way the speaker uses it. i tend to hear much more loud and ugly speech from certain tourists from england, although obviously, some other languages i wouldn't understand at all. guess we just have to accept the english culture makes "fucking c*nts" common speech.

deutsch is purely a more difficult language to learn due to complex grammar. also, i still can't pronounce "sprichst du deutsch?" without a struggle. thai language is much easier than deutsch due to excessively simple thai grammar and few consonants in a row. keep learning thai. its worth it meet and have fun with thai girls that have very basic english or none.

be careful about picking up impolite thai words from bargirls. big danger! many thai words you hear, cannot be used safely. many farangs are thought to be very obnoxious because they so use many thai swear words. mostly they just don't know they have picked up very ugly ways to say something from bar girls.

[Iching]

If you want to ask a mamasan which of the girls are shaven, or ask a girl if she is shaven, how do you ask this in Thai?I BF a 20 year old that was completely bald, it was OK. I really don't know if I like bald or with hair. I think in my life the 20 year old and another were the only bald people I've been with.

[BionicMan]

The whole Melting Pot thing was just some late 18th century fairytale bullshit. These days the theory has been revamped and is taught with the country being compared to a Salad Bowl. In a Salad Bowl various distinct ingredients compose the overall dish. They do touch and interact, but do not blend together to form something that no longer leaves the orignal ingredients indistinguishable. For the most part when a salad is complete you can still pick out the cucumbers, tomatoes, and chesse and recognize it as such. In a melting pot everything is jumbled in and the finished product is something that totally different and the individual ingredients are not recognizable. The USA has never been such a thing.Makes a lot of sense and seems a good way to explain it.

Probably the first immigrant thoughts being in a melting pot as quite many nationalities arrived (unusual for other countries) , but was jast a salad bowl and continued like that

When you take it as a whole it is a 'salad' (= american) , but there is no real blending / melting of the ingredients (=different orginal nationalities) as you said.

Chapeau!

[Gin And Tonic]

LBM. True true, on the not needing a passport!

As far as that other statement about Canada / Mexico being like going from SF to LA.

Going to Mexico (real Mexico, not touristy-Cancun or whatever) is night and day from the United States, heh. Canada I think you can make that argument safely, if you're willing to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off a few Canadians in the process. They're not very fond of the whole "51st state" concept, and if you watched the aftermath of the hockey playoffs last week you know what happens when you make them mad! Some of us still hold a grudge. The family landed in Boston area from Bedfordshire in 1630 in what was then British North America. Later settled in East Greenwich, R. I. Then Vermont. Had run ins with the domestic terrorists of the time led by Ethan Allan in the early 1780's. Decided to head north but fully intend on taking back which was ours. Just like the Mex are doing.

[Maa Paa]

"yar yoot" (yaa yut. Depends how you want to spell it) simply means "don't stop!". So that is the best one here.

"mai dtong yud" is okay but means "its not necessary to stop", the other subtle variations are not as good even though will be probably understood."harm yoot" is too formal and would be found on a traffic sign "stopping is forbidden"."mai dai yud" really means "I didn't stop" (or "didn't get to stop"). Past tense.

"dt" is described as an unaspirated (no puff of air)"t" sound as in the word "hotmail" where the "t" loses its trailing hiss of air, replaced by a brief stop of the sound, as there is not time to make that hiss sound before moving on to the next syllable. This makes it a bit similar to a "the" but missing the initial hum before main sound.

Yes, I am having formal Thai Language lessons. No, I will not mention my school. Search the internet. Totally agree with you about this. Sorry not to mention "yar yut".

Yes, I also attented several Thai language classes. No, I will not ask you for the name of the school. No, I will not search the net. Why should I?

Maa Paa

[Maa Paa]

nothing at all. its not the language, its only the way the speaker uses it. i tend to hear much more loud and ugly speech from certain tourists from england, although obviously, some other languages i wouldn't understand at all. guess we just have to accept the english culture makes "fucking see*nts" common speech.

deutsch is purely a more difficult language to learn due to complex grammar. also, i still can't pronounce "sprichst du deutsch?" without a struggle. thai language is much easier than deutsch due to excessively simple thai grammar and few consonants in a row. keep learning thai. its worth it meet and have fun with thai girls that have very basic english or none.

be careful about picking up impolite thai words from bargirls. big danger! many thai words you hear, cannot be used safely. many farangs are thought to be very obnoxious because they so use many thai swear words. mostly they just don't know they have picked up very ugly ways to say something from bar girls. agree again about the difficulty of german language. not for me as a german. but even for me as a german it's very difficult to explain some basic grammar to someone from another country. there are many rules you have to follow and also many things that you definitely can't explain. you just have to learn, to remember and practise them.

there have been moments in my life when felt ashamed to be german, yes. not because of the history (bad enough) but because of the rude behaviour of some germans around me.

and there have been other moments when i felt happy to be german and not one of the other rude behaving foreigners from the us, england, australia or somewhere else.

that's what i tell all my students or the other teachers here who ask me about germans and germany: every country has some people with a good character and some with a less good character.

never judge in general.

thanks for your advise about studying thai. normally i feel happy and comfortable without listening or spotting any other farang near me. my thai is good enough to go wherever i want to go in thailand . without using german or english.

maa paa

[Anders Svensson]

DEVIL'S DEN! They are very couples friendly with all girls being genuinely bisexual and trained to work in teams of two you should have a blast. If you haven't heard about this place, I highly recommend checking out devilsdenpattaya. Com. I've recieved the most enthusiastic and reliable service there. It's like being a porn director and actor at the same time, minus the camera crew. They will do literally everything with you and your girl and this is the cleanest place I have ever seen in terms of the girls themselves. They are all regularly tested, have paperwork to prove it, shower you and themselves before and after sessions, use listerine excessively before and after sessions and are condom nazis. The Devil's Den satisfaction guarantee doesn't hurt either!Thanks Satyr for all the comments on this. Will definately try out this place with her. If you come up with any other ideas, let us know!

I am also thinking about the soapies, something I kind of like myself. I guess they would be OK with doing a double with one girl / one guy?

A.

[Nixonbd]

Hello, I have not posted for a while. I sent these videos to my friends back home to try and give them some idea of what it is like here. But, as I tell them, until you come here, you will really NEVER really know. I hope you like them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fqQ0W1jovg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHdC4XLUyyM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5XfsubYHls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUWJ1hoU8NE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lirkbduhoak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfTo6twYkPc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWnhip9d4W0&playnext=1&list=PL7BEDC079FF97EE57

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk6-W2OKISg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxJl2EUGnCY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF1bs5EtjBY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JLgdDZz374&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSBxiTLQWx4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF742GkxxSs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BCxZ3QWnzQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXD5OIHc3QI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7JHBxS-g3M&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tln1QnPXHs&feature=relatedTake the ones of the glittzy shopping centers out, then you're talking.

[Siam Dreamer]

Just like the Mex are doing.Sad but true. Their numbers, along with other central and south americans, are exploding inside the US like nuclear bombs. Most of the poverty stricken illegal immigrants (uneducated but hard working) are reproducing like rabbits once they get settled on american soil. And because they take jobs that keep them below poverty level, they also qualify for social benefits like welfare, and medicaid. And as long as the US government allows it. They will stay on welfare.

Within the next 3 years, a majority of people on welfare in the US will be poverty stricken foreign nationals. Most of them illegal immigrants. Because they are easily able to get jobs (Service industry, restaurants, etc.) and get free welfare benefits, the numbers have exploded over the past 10 years. Once they figured out it was easy. And no one was stopping them. The onslaught was on, and has been on. States like California, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Maryland. Are permanently f*cked. The financial damage and cost are irreparable. Worse more, once they get inside your country, they are hard as hell to remove. Transforming language and schools (with their children) , bringing their culture, and 3rd world customs. In the worst ways.

Don't take my word for it. Go see for yourself. You will see that large parts of America (especially in around cities, and large towns) feel and look like El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, and Nicaragua, and Mexico (in the worst ways). Its sickening, especially when you realize that the problem is exacerbated by weak, uncoordinated law enforcement (on all levels). Despite the costs. It's not a priority. Yet.

[Stakeout]

Hello, I have not posted for a while. I sent these videos to my friends back home to try and give them some idea of what it is like here. But, as I tell them, until you come here, you will really NEVER really know. I hope you like them.No offense, but the clips you chose were all completely useless.

[SunnyDelhi269]

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[Jackyboy]

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[Mr Enternational]

A beautiful woman recently showed interest in me on a free website. One of the first things she said was that she wanted me to fuck her. We had talked on and off. When I programmed her number into my phone and she called me it showed up with her name with "Walking Street". (I always put where I met a person next to the name.) So I told her that she had met me before but she denied it. She did say that she had showed her friend my pictures and the friend said that I fucked her before. She would never tell me anything else about the friend. This girl acted kind of strange at times, everyday vehemently accusing me of not being able to see her because I was with a lady even though she had never even met me.


So yesterday I finally went to pick her up. She was drop dead gorgeous. But one thing: she was a freaking midget. I finally got the courage to ask her how tall she was. 140cm (4'6") was the answer. She said that she wanted to go straight to my room and drink. She doesn't like to go out. When we got to my place she realized that she had forgotten to put on deodorant so she was seriously trying to put cologne under her arms. She was fucking looney toons. She asked me why I didn't tell her to bring sexy clothes. She told me that she knew I was not going to want to see her again after today. We started drinking and listening to music and soon she wanted to see my dick. Game on.


I had a brand new liter of Woodford Reserve. She drank 1/5 of the bottle and a Bacardi Breezer over a couple of hours. She kept trying to make me go bareback. I opened a comdom and put it on her chest. She picked it up and threw it across the room. But we finally finished fucking. She was the truth in the sack. But I think she is schizophrenic or something because we would be talking and she would just blurt out various shit like,"You fucked my friend." Then I'd be like who is your friend, but she would just keep right on talking like it never happened. We kept getting into fights, really throwing blows, knocking each other in the head and what not. I kept laughing because I thought I was on Candid Camera or something. I had to get my camera and try to film that crazy shit.


She ran to the bathroom and threw up so much in the sink. It was a good thing she had not eaten or it would have really been messy. It was only liquid though. I gave her a toothbrush to use. She came right back into the room and tried to start drinking again. She kept trying to kiss me and wanted to suck my dick and fuck more. She kept climbing all over me like a monkey. She was very short so she would use her feet a lot. I had to keep beating her off of me. I had to ball up and play sleep so she would leave me alone. Then she started saying that she was hungry and I fell asleep for real. When I woke up about 45 mintues later she was passed out.


Did I mention she was crazy? I woke up an hour and a half later (2:30am) because she started kicking and somehow kicked herself right off the bed. As she fell to the floor she hit her head on the nightstand. She was like I think there is blood. I opened my eyes but didn't see any blood then I looked over and the door to the balcony was open and the light was on outside. I went over and my jeans were wet on the floor outside. Then I looked around and water was everywhere on the floor from the front door to the balcony door. I was like what the fuck did you do. Then she said you want me to leave? I said hell yeah. Then I took her ass home. I spent about 4 hours spring cleaning my place yesterday. I was pissed. There was no telling what she would have done next if I wouldn't have taken her home.



Link to Pic in Photo Thread.

PS What is going on with this crazy format?

[Fryatuck]

Be happy you wern't robbed or worse. INJURED!


A beautiful woman recently showed interest in me on a free website. One of the first things she said was that she wanted me to fuck her. We had talked on and off. When I programmed her number into my phone and she called me it showed up with her name with "Walking Street". (I always put where I met a person next to the name.) So I told her that she had met me before but she denied it. She did say that she had showed her friend my pictures and the friend said that I fucked her before. She would never tell me anything else about the friend. This girl acted kind of strange at times, everyday vehemently accusing me of not being able to see her because I was with a lady even though she had never even met me.

So yesterday I finally went to pick her up. She was drop dead gorgeous. But one thing: she was a freaking midget. I finally got the courage to ask her how tall she was. 140cm (4'6") was the answer. She said that she wanted to go straight to my room and drink. She doesn't like to go out. When we got to my place she realized that she had forgotten to put on deodorant so she was seriously trying to put cologne under her arms. She was fucking looney toons. She asked me why I didn't tell her to bring sexy clothes. She told me that she knew I was not going to want to see her again after today. We started drinking and listening to music and soon she wanted to see my dick. Game on.

I had a brand new liter of Woodford Reserve. She drank 1/5 of the bottle and a Bacardi Breezer over a couple of hours. She kept trying to make me go bareback. I opened a comdom and put it on her chest. She picked it up and threw it across the room. But we finally finished fucking. She was the truth in the sack. But I think she is schizophrenic or something because we would be talking and she would just blurt out various shit like,"You fucked my friend." Then I'd be like who is your friend, but she would just keep right on talking like it never happened. We kept getting into fights, really throwing blows, knocking each other in the head and what not. I kept laughing because I thought I was on Candid Camera or something. I had to get my camera and try to film that crazy shit.

She ran to the bathroom and threw up so much in the sink. It was a good thing she had not eaten or it would have really been messy. It was only liquid though. I gave her a toothbrush to use. She came right back into the room and tried to start drinking again. She kept trying to kiss me and wanted to suck my dick and fuck more. She kept climbing all over me like a monkey. She was very short so she would use her feet a lot. I had to keep beating her off of me. I had to ball up and play sleep so she would leave me alone. Then she started saying that she was hungry and I fell asleep for real. When I woke up about 45 mintues later she was passed out.

Did I mention she was crazy? I woke up an hour and a half later (2:30am) because she started kicking and somehow kicked herself right off the bed. As she fell to the floor she hit her head on the nightstand. She was like I think there is blood. I opened my eyes but didn't see any blood then I looked over and the door to the balcony was open and the light was on outside. I went over and my jeans were wet on the floor outside. Then I looked around and water was everywhere on the floor from the front door to the balcony door. I was like what the fuck did you do. Then she said you want me to leave? I said hell yeah. Then I took her ass home. I spent about 4 hours spring cleaning my place yesterday. I was pissed. There was no telling what she would have done next if I wouldn't have taken her home.

PS What is going on with this crazy format?

[Mr Enternational]

Be happy you wern't robbed or worse. INJURED!It had nothing to do with drugs I assure you. If it did, then I don't think her place would have been as nice with a fairly new 60 inch flat screen TV. Plus this was not a P4P thing. It was more of a mental issue on her part.