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Siam Dreamer
06-23-11, 22:47
So yesterday I finally went to pick her up. She was drop dead gorgeous. But one thing: she was a freaking midget. I finally got the courage to ask her how tall she was. 140cm (4'6") was the answer.Another excellent report. Thank you. Despite the mental issues, she definitely seemed hot enough. Question. With her being so small / short, is she really have to f*ck? I mean. How well could she take the dilznick? Shorter ladies tend to be easily intimidated, so I usually go for taller / thicker women for this reason. But I have been surpised by a few spinners (very deep).

Gin And Tonic
06-24-11, 06:07
Don't take my word for it. Go see for yourself. You will see that large parts of America (especially in around cities, and large towns) feel and look like El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, and Nicaragua, and Mexico (in the worst ways). Its sickening, especially when you realize that the problem is exacerbated by weak, uncoordinated law enforcement (on all levels). Despite the costs. It's not a priority. Yet. [/QUOTE]No thanks, I live 60 miles from the USA & that is close enough.

Mr Enternational
06-24-11, 06:26
Another excellent report. Thank you. Despite the mental issues, she definitely seemed hot enough. Question. With her being so small / short, is she really have to f*ck? I mean. How well could she take the dilznick? Shorter ladies tend to be easily intimidated, so I usually go for taller / thicker women for this reason. But I have been surpised by a few spinners (very deep).You are a man after my own heart. I go for the taller, thicker ones too. But since she pursued me, who am I to resist? And besides, if it's for free it's for me. She had no problem taking dick.

TomJackin
06-24-11, 06:40
Don't take my word for it. Go see for yourself. You will see that large parts of America (especially in around cities, and large towns) feel and look like El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, and Nicaragua, and Mexico (in the worst ways). Its sickening, especially when you realize that the problem is exacerbated by weak, uncoordinated law enforcement (on all levels).And in what cities in America were you sicken in? There is no way to compare Honduras and Nicaragua to any American city. Come to San Diego; we will take a road trip.

TomJackin
06-24-11, 06:44
You are a man after my own heart. I go for the taller, thicker ones too. But since she pursued me, who am I to resist? And besides, if it's for free it's for me. She had no problem taking dick.Mr. E,

I want a midget too; where can I find her. Don't really care how crazy she might be. I will be there the end of July and I will be hunting for this damn midget!

Nvslim
06-24-11, 10:23
Be happy you wern't robbed or worse. INJURED!You quoted three screens of text just to add one line. Feel free to snip a bit.

Slim

Mr Enternational
06-24-11, 20:14
Mr. E,

I want a midget too; where can I find her. Don't really care how crazy she might be. I will be there the end of July and I will be hunting for this damn midget! LOL. She was a non-pro. I'm ready to get down to Tijuana with you.

TomJackin
06-24-11, 20:47
LOL. She was a non-pro. I'm ready to get down to Tijuana with you.Come on down. The first Street Girl is on me!

Mr Enternational
06-25-11, 06:06
So I dropped my cousin off at Sabai Dee Body Massage to get a soapie. I set my watch for 90 minutes so I would know when to return to pick him up. I went down to Walking Street in search of a Coconut Bar t-shirt that I have seen 2 guys wearing. The first guy said that he bought it a while back in front of Carrefour, but they had a sign saying that only 100 were made. The second guy with one I saw on Walking Street, but I don't think he spoke good English because when I asked him he just pointed up and down the street. If anyone has intel on where I can get one of these shirts please let me know.

As a walked past Walking Street Disco I saw a chick who I thought was very sexy. She was dark and looked a bit Indian. She was with another chick who was light and looked Eastern Asian. They claimed to be sisters (but I highly doubt it) from Nepal. I got the phone number and she said they were staying on Soi 13/2. They didn't know the name of the hotel, but showed me the key. She called me the next morning looking for her sister. She had confused my phone number with a guy who I guess had taken her sister the night before. I told her that I would call her later on that day.

That night I met her out on Beach Road. She was with her sister. I told her sister that I would bring my cousin back later to meet her. Off we went to my cousin's hotel. I could not figure this girl's angle for anything. She said that she likes her country better than Thailand because all Thai's think about is money. This had me thinking that maybe she was not working. In addition, I was trying to put the moves on her while my cousin was in the shower but she was a little resistant. But I also thought that no two single women come to Pattaya for "vacation" a few weeks, returns to their country for a couple of months, then comes back to Pattaya as she said they would do. So I made sure I took a couple of pictures in case the thing turned sour later.

We rode back to meet up with the sister. They were hungry and asked if we wanted to eat. My cousin, being the great wingman that he is, told them that we had already eaten, so they could call us when they finished dinner. We made a bee-line to Goose's Fish and Chips on Second Road. We were actually starving but we were not about to treat those women to a meal. They called us an hour later and we went to the front of their hotel. Her sister met us in front and asked what we wanted to do. She said that they wanted to go out to a disco? Not on our dime they were not. I told them that I had plenty to drink in my room and we could go there to party.

That is when the sister dropped it on us that they were in fact working girls. She said that they wanted 3, 000 baht each. We got a nice chuckle out of that because this girl was nothing special. I am not even ashamed to say that she was sub-par. I can't for the life of me understand why these foreign women keep coming to Thailand asking for an exorbitant amount of money. My cousin explained to her that he could get 3 women all night for 3, 000 baht. 1,000 baht for each one. She claimed to not understand. He offered her 1, 000 baht for each of them. She kept calling her sister on the phone (3 times). I have no idea what they were talking about because whenever she hung up she didn't have a deal worked out. She would just say what will you give us. We made it clear many times that we would pay 1, 000 each but she kept saying 3, 000. And she wanted me to work a deal separately with her sister. So I'm like well why the hell do you keep calling her if you aren't telling her about the negotiations. My cousins final offer was 1, 200 baht under the condition that we are able to switch up. She still wanted 3, 000. We rode off and bid her good luck.

Pics in the photo thread. Link:
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Monkey1818
06-25-11, 07:05
Don't take my word for it. Go see for yourself. You will see that large parts of America (especially in around cities, and large towns) feel and look like El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, and Nicaragua, and Mexico (in the worst ways). Its sickening, especially when you realize that the problem is exacerbated by weak, uncoordinated law enforcement (on all levels). Despite the costs. It's not a priority. Yet.No thanks, I live 60 miles from the USA & that is close enough.[/QUOTE]I live in Cali. So I understand completely. But in a way it's a necessary evil. With out all the Hispanic immigrants, we would have NO work force. Every restaurant you go to is full of Hispanic workers, so are the factories etc. And there's no way I would go out there and pick strawberries. With out all the Hispanic workers, we would have no agricultural economy in California. It is what it is. A necessary evil.

Stakeout
06-25-11, 07:58
No alcohol to be sold in Thailand from 6pm on Saturday until 3pm on Sunday due to pre-election voting.

Amjeck
06-25-11, 08:16
I went down to Walking Street in search of a Coconut Bar t-shirt that I have seen 2 guys wearing.Sad!


She still wanted 3, 000. We rode off and bid her good luck.Double sad!

I guess all good things come to an end.

WildHawk
06-25-11, 10:51
Stopped at this Walking Street gogo on Wednesday night and ordered the draught beer. Seeing that there was no carbonation I took a wee sip, and the stuff was indeed rancid. I immediately summoned the waitress to complain; she in turn called the mamasan. I said that I was sending back this spoiled beer and should be given something out of a bottle (for which I would pay the difference). Here mommie said,"You pay for this," pointing to the bad beer. I calmly explained that, no, I would not be paying for the bad beer. At that, she summoned more staffers to surround my table, which was near the door. As I departed the bar, mommie kicked my rear, a grave put-down for her, I'm sure, but meaningless to me as it did not smart one whit. As I laughed on the way out she picked up a stick of some sort and thew it my way.

Entry No. 2 on my shitlist would be Alcatraz. I do love the setup since the remodel, by far the most elaborate I have seen in Patts. However, I recall they had a lot more babydoll dancers (big-haired, doe-eyed girls the Japanese love) in early December. Now the girls are taller, certainly jailhouse tougher, in keeping with the motif. Might be some fellers' tastes, but not mine. That in itself does not qualify for Wildhawk Shitlist. What put Alcrataz on the list were the worthless male bathroom attendants who shoved the door on me after I failed to tip. I DO NOT tip washroom attendants. In fact, I should be paid for the intrusion on my privacy. On the scale of worthless Thai men, those working in gogos are off the charts.

Anyhow, no need to suffer in such a joint with all the superb competition in these environs.

Siam Dreamer
06-25-11, 14:29
Avoid Club Lollipop and Alcatraz.Thank you for sharing. I will return in August for 3 weeks and will definitely cross the places off my list. Bad customer service at certain clubs / gogo / bars can definitely ruin your trip and is unacceptable (no matter how hot the girls are inside). These places must be avoided. Even if you have money to burn. Thankfully there are many of venues to choose from there. Lack off patrons / business sends a powerful message to managers and owners.

Run Mann
06-25-11, 15:28
No alcohol to be sold in Thailand from 6pm on Saturday until 3pm on Sunday due to pre-election voting.Yep! Lots of open air bars are closed and some that are open have the lights off but Beach Road was packed with providers about an hour ago.

Clokey
06-27-11, 11:03
Yep! Lots of open air bars are closed and some that are open have the lights off but Beach Road was packed with providers about an hour ago.And they might have been charging extra. Next weekend everybody remember to load the fridge Friday night with enough to get through the weekend.

Hobbyist2
06-27-11, 16:33
Arrived in BKK asked how much for taxi to go to Dawin. They said 450 Baht. I said ok and off we went. I then find out that the driver does not know where it is. We finally find it and I get settled in. I couldn't sleep, so wandered the streets to get a lay of the land. Unfortunately that street is full of LBs.

This was my first trip to Thailand, but am not new to mongering, having been on 3 continents. I just don't post a lot.

The next day I found a sign for massages just past the 7/11 down from the Dawin. I talked to a lady named Boo or something like that. I asked for the oil massage, but without the oil. I follow her down a sort of alley to a building where we get in an elevator and go to the 5th or 6th floor to a private room. She begins the lame massage and on the flip she goes to the bathroom to freshen up. When she returns she starts with a nice bbj. Of course she is looking for extras. I asked how much for sex? She says 1000 Baht for every thing. I said ok and it was a good session. All of the girls there are looking for extras. They said they don't make any money at 350 Baht for massage. Boo is the best looking one I saw. Now off to Pattaya. I know this is the Pattaya forum, but since this was short I added it here.

I arrive in Pattaya and it is everything I expected. My first stay was at Queen Victoria on soi 6. It was a good value, but don't know if I would stay there again. No issue with the hotel, except if you like hot water in the shower you may be disappointed it is sufficiently warm, but no where near hot.

The constant attention from the girls every time I walked out of the hotel was not some thing that I really liked. They knew every thing I did. It kind of reminded me of CR at the HDR where some of the not so lovely ladies would keep bothering you to buy them a drink. It would have been better for me to stay away from there and then visit there (just my opinion). I never did bar fine a girl from soi 6, but did play pool with some and had a great make out session with Dia from Sex in the City bar. I was grabbing her ass as we were kissing and she said I can do that. I am not really into anal, so it didn't do much for me. I was turned off buy all the piercings she had. She also showed me her pussy piercing. There was another girl there who I started with first, but she didn't do long time, so that is how I ended up with Dia (note to self ask about LT before buying drink).

I walked down beach Road a few times and saw a girl who looked nice. Talked with her and said her name is Lek. She seemed nice, so for 1000 Baht LT, I said let's go. I walked past all the girls on soi 6 and up to the room where the fun began. I had a great time with her. She was a real GFE with me and I kept her for 3 nights. That kept the soi 6 gals in their seats in stead of running out and grabbing me to get me in for a drink.

I spent time in various bars off beach Road and soi 7 & 8. I like to play pool, so I spent time during the day doing that and meeting more ladies. I am not a great pool player, but I only got beat once when playing 2 out of 3 games and that was by Roy at the bar on the corner of Beach Road and soi 8. It is on the right if you are walking from Beach Road. I should have bar fined her as she was a lot of fun, just not enough time. Oh well, maybe next trip.

I moved to Eastiny Place Hotel on soi 8 near 2nd Road. The wifi there is weak. I moved from room 602 to 604 and had a much better signal. I need a strong signal for my financial / business reasons. I had several arguments with the guy who installed the system. He said it was my computer not his system. I showed the hotel staff the signal with the door opened and how it dropped when I closed the door. Besides it would fluctuate constantly when I was in 602. Room 604 is close to the antenna or what ever it is called for the system. The other issue there was ants in the room and in the restaurant. I would not stay there again due to that.

I spent some time at Pim bar on Pattay Klang and Beach Road. Pam and I played many games of pool. I was tired and not feeling great, so one night I bar fined her just to go to dinner. It was 300 Baht BF and she ate something that was low end on the menu, even after I told her to have what she wanted. I took her back to the bar and gave her 500 baht for her time. She was interesting to talk to and very informative about a lot of issues, including girls, bars, food, etc.

One or two nights later I bar fined Pam LT and off we went. First stop was to eat. I think she ate some soup which was about 60 Baht, again I told her to eat what ever she wanted. I know some of you could tell about a lot of cheap places to eat a lot of food. Pam told me about some of them, but I wasn't concerned about that at the time. Back at the room she showed me pictures of her 10 year old daughter and her parents. She also told me that she has customers, friends and boyfriends. The friends she doesn't have boom boom with. I won't go into all the other details about the rest.

We took a shower together as I did with all the girls I was with. After that it was a decent session in bed, but not the best I have had. After round one, I pulled out of her only to notice blood on the condom. It was about the first one third and not the whole length and none got on the bed. I told her that there is blood and she couldn't believe it. I pulled it off inside out, with the blood on the inside and gave it to her. She took it into the bathroom and said, how can this be, I had my period 10 days ago? That ended our evening. I paid 300 Baht bar fine and was to give her 1000 for LT, but ended up giving her 500 or 600 Baht and said good-bye.

Another night I went to walking street and decided to get a massage, no extras just massage. The drinks are much more expensive on Walking street as I expected. I played pool with a girl and told her no drink, but I would tip her when I left, which she preferred. I found that to be the case with other girls. When the lady drinks were 50 – 70 baht I didn't mind, but when they wanted 130 Baht I said no.

I left Walking street and headed back to soi 8. When I got to soi 8 and Beach Road there was a girl in the bar on the corner on the left who grabbed onto me. I told her I was tired and just wanted to go to my hotel and sleep. She would not let go and was kissing me like an old girlfriend, so with that enthusiasm, I paid the 300 baht BF and took her for the night. Her rate was 1000 Baht for LT, which was normal for the bar girls in that area. We showered and got into bed and she was all over me. This girl was an enthusiastic kisser, but I really was dead tired. Well the sex began and she had her orgasm and I just went soft and didn't come. She must have realized it and asked me if I came and I said no. Well we were at it for some time, so she grabbed my dick after I pulled out and took the condom off and went to the bathroom to check to see if it was empty or not. It was and she said she felt really bad because she came and I didn't. I said don't worry and I said I need to sleep. I don't remember her name, but she looked nice, but when the clothes came off her body was not that great. In the morning I just paid her the 1000 Baht and let her go. I could tell she was disappointed, but I just wasn't in the mood with her. I needed more sleep.

Well, time went by fast and the next thing I know, I am packing to get ready to head back to Bangkok for one night before leaving for the States. I called Lek as I wanted to give her something and buy her breakfast. She said she would be there in 10-20 minutes. When she arrived I was almost packed and went to breakfast. After that I asked her if she wanted to go to Bangkok with me. Her face lit up and she said yes and also wanted to go to the airport with me. I said that was fine, but we would have to get up early. At 11:00 am the cab was there and off we went to Bangkok.

We arrived and checked in at the Dawin. After getting settled, we went for something to eat and walked around the area. Then back to the hotel for a nap. We woke up late and showered and it was [play time. I called the front desk to arrange for a cab for the morning and back to sleep. In the morning no cab was arranged for, so Lek said she would get one from the street. Lek has a cab waiting and off we go. It was 231 Baht for the ride to the airport. I gave the driver 250 and grabbed my bags. It cost me 450 baht to go from the airport to the Dawin when I arrived. Well, as we know, the price is always cheaper for the locals. There was also very little traffic at that time in the morning, so it was a quicker ride.

There is a lot more I could write, but my fingers have had enough. Ok, I will say that I did have a soapy and won't have another one. Nice lady at a place across the street from Big C, but it did seem awkward sliding around on the mattress. For the money, I would prefer a regular massage and then go bar fine a lady.

It was a good trip and I didn't spend as much as I had planned for. I gave Lek 2000 Baht at the airport because I had a great time with her. She was very happy with that and then a kiss good-bye and I was headed home. I hope to go back later in the year or after the first of the year for a much longer stay.

FreebieFan
06-28-11, 09:54
http://www.dateinasia.com/SexySadie.html Some of us from DIA know her. She's now in Patts.

Stakeout
06-30-11, 06:05
I thought all freelancers were happy with 500 baht ST and 1 000 baht LT, but someone here wrote that these prices only refer to beach-road freelancers, whereas freelancers on walking street and the discos on said road are demanding 1 000 baht ST and 2 000 baht LT.Is this true?

Butter69
06-30-11, 09:44
I thought all freelancers were happy with 500 baht ST and 1 000 baht LT, but someone here wrote that these prices only refer to beach-road freelancers, whereas freelancers on walking street and the discos on said road are demanding 1 000 baht ST and 2 000 baht LT.Is this true?In my experience while there, the girls from Beach Road were around 500-700b for short time and 1000-1200b for long time.

I paid the freelancers in the discos various prices. Some accepted 1000-1500b for short time, and others 1000-2000 for long time.

It's often about chemistry too. Once a girl turned down 1500b from a guy for longtime, and went longtime with me for 1000b.

Plus depends what time of the night it is. If it's early in the night, the girls might haggle for a bit more. But if it's after 2am, they will accept a reasonable offer. Normally not less than 1000b.

I always agree everything upfront.

Maa Paa
06-30-11, 13:38
Thanks for that report. Normally I don't follow the Pattaya section. But this report was very long, full of details and looked to be quite true and honest. Not really many men here would admit that they felt tired and need some time to rest.

I think, I would not be that patient to write such a long report here. Thanks again.

Maa Paa

Maa Paa
06-30-11, 13:39
Arrived in BKK asked how much for taxi to go to Dawin. They said 450 Baht. I said ok and off we went. I then find out that the driver does not know where it is. We finally find it and I get settled in. I couldn't sleep, so wandered the streets to get a lay of the land. Unfortunately that street is full of LBs.

This was my first trip to Thailand, but am not new to mongering, having been on 3 continents. I just don't post a lot.

The next day I found a sign for massages just past the 7/11 down from the Dawin. I talked to a lady named Boo or something like that. I asked for the oil massage, but without the oil. I follow her down a sort of alley to a building where we get in an elevator and go to the 5th or 6th floor to a private room. She begins the lame massage and on the flip she goes to the bathroom to freshen up. When she returns she starts with a nice bbj. Of course she is looking for extras. I asked how much for sex? She says 1000 Baht for every thing. I said ok and it was a good session. All of the girls there are looking for extras. They said they don't make any money at 350 Baht for massage. Boo is the best looking one I saw. Now off to Pattaya. I know this is the Pattaya forum, but since this was short I added it here.

I arrive in Pattaya and it is everything I expected. My first stay was at Queen Victoria on soi 6. It was a good value, but don't know if I would stay there again. No issue with the hotel, except if you like hot water in the shower you may be disappointed it is sufficiently warm, but no where near hot.

The constant attention from the girls every time I walked out of the hotel was not some thing that I really liked. They knew every thing I did. It kind of reminded me of CR at the HDR where some of the not so lovely ladies would keep bothering you to buy them a drink. It would have been better for me to stay away from there and then visit there (just my opinion). I never did bar fine a girl from soi 6, but did play pool with some and had a great make out session with Dia from Sex in the City bar. I was grabbing her ass as we were kissing and she said I can do that. I am not really into anal, so it didn't do much for me. I was turned off buy all the piercings she had. She also showed me her pussy piercing. There was another girl there who I started with first, but she didn't do long time, so that is how I ended up with Dia (note to self ask about LT before buying drink).

I walked down beach Road a few times and saw a girl who looked nice. Talked with her and said her name is Lek. She seemed nice, so for 1000 Baht LT, I said let's go. I walked past all the girls on soi 6 and up to the room where the fun began. I had a great time with her. She was a real GFE with me and I kept her for 3 nights. That kept the soi 6 gals in their seats in stead of running out and grabbing me to get me in for a drink.

I spent time in various bars off beach Road and soi 7 & 8. I like to play pool, so I spent time during the day doing that and meeting more ladies. I am not a great pool player, but I only got beat once when playing 2 out of 3 games and that was by Roy at the bar on the corner of Beach Road and soi 8. It is on the right if you are walking from Beach Road. I should have bar fined her as she was a lot of fun, just not enough time. Oh well, maybe next trip.

I moved to Eastiny Place Hotel on soi 8 near 2nd Road. The wifi there is weak. I moved from room 602 to 604 and had a much better signal. I need a strong signal for my financial / business reasons. I had several arguments with the guy who installed the system. He said it was my computer not his system. I showed the hotel staff the signal with the door opened and how it dropped when I closed the door. Besides it would fluctuate constantly when I was in 602. Room 604 is close to the antenna or what ever it is called for the system. The other issue there was ants in the room and in the restaurant. I would not stay there again due to that.

I spent some time at Pim bar on Pattay Klang and Beach Road. Pam and I played many games of pool. I was tired and not feeling great, so one night I bar fined her just to go to dinner. It was 300 Baht BF and she ate something that was low end on the menu, even after I told her to have what she wanted. I took her back to the bar and gave her 500 baht for her time. She was interesting to talk to and very informative about a lot of issues, including girls, bars, food, etc.

One or two nights later I bar fined Pam LT and off we went. First stop was to eat. I think she ate some soup which was about 60 Baht, again I told her to eat what ever she wanted. I know some of you could tell about a lot of cheap places to eat a lot of food. Pam told me about some of them, but I wasn't concerned about that at the time. Back at the room she showed me pictures of her 10 year old daughter and her parents. She also told me that she has customers, friends and boyfriends. The friends she doesn't have boom boom with. I won't go into all the other details about the rest.

We took a shower together as I did with all the girls I was with. After that it was a decent session in bed, but not the best I have had. After round one, I pulled out of her only to notice blood on the condom. It was about the first one third and not the whole length and none got on the bed. I told her that there is blood and she couldn't believe it. I pulled it off inside out, with the blood on the inside and gave it to her. She took it into the bathroom and said, how can this be, I had my period 10 days ago? That ended our evening. I paid 300 Baht bar fine and was to give her 1000 for LT, but ended up giving her 500 or 600 Baht and said good-bye.

Another night I went to walking street and decided to get a massage, no extras just massage. The drinks are much more expensive on Walking street as I expected. I played pool with a girl and told her no drink, but I would tip her when I left, which she preferred. I found that to be the case with other girls. When the lady drinks were 50 – 70 baht I didn't mind, but when they wanted 130 Baht I said no.

I left Walking street and headed back to soi 8. When I got to soi 8 and Beach Road there was a girl in the bar on the corner on the left who grabbed onto me. I told her I was tired and just wanted to go to my hotel and sleep. She would not let go and was kissing me like an old girlfriend, so with that enthusiasm, I paid the 300 baht BF and took her for the night. Her rate was 1000 Baht for LT, which was normal for the bar girls in that area. We showered and got into bed and she was all over me. This girl was an enthusiastic kisser, but I really was dead tired. Well the sex began and she had her orgasm and I just went soft and didn't come. She must have realized it and asked me if I came and I said no. Well we were at it for some time, so she grabbed my dick after I pulled out and took the condom off and went to the bathroom to check to see if it was empty or not. It was and she said she felt really bad because she came and I didn't. I said don't worry and I said I need to sleep. I don't remember her name, but she looked nice, but when the clothes came off her body was not that great. In the morning I just paid her the 1000 Baht and let her go. I could tell she was disappointed, but I just wasn't in the mood with her. I needed more sleep.

Well, time went by fast and the next thing I know, I am packing to get ready to head back to Bangkok for one night before leaving for the States. I called Lek as I wanted to give her something and buy her breakfast. She said she would be there in 10-20 minutes. When she arrived I was almost packed and went to breakfast. After that I asked her if she wanted to go to Bangkok with me. Her face lit up and she said yes and also wanted to go to the airport with me. I said that was fine, but we would have to get up early. At 11:00 am the cab was there and off we went to Bangkok.

We arrived and checked in at the Dawin. After getting settled, we went for something to eat and walked around the area. Then back to the hotel for a nap. We woke up late and showered and it was [play time. I called the front desk to arrange for a cab for the morning and back to sleep. In the morning no cab was arranged for, so Lek said she would get one from the street. Lek has a cab waiting and off we go. It was 231 Baht for the ride to the airport. I gave the driver 250 and grabbed my bags. It cost me 450 baht to go from the airport to the Dawin when I arrived. Well, as we know, the price is always cheaper for the locals. There was also very little traffic at that time in the morning, so it was a quicker ride.

There is a lot more I could write, but my fingers have had enough. Ok, I will say that I did have a soapy and won't have another one. Nice lady at a place across the street from Big C, but it did seem awkward sliding around on the mattress. For the money, I would prefer a regular massage and then go bar fine a lady.

It was a good trip and I didn't spend as much as I had planned for. I gave Lek 2000 Baht at the airport because I had a great time with her. She was very happy with that and then a kiss good-bye and I was headed home. I hope to go back later in the year or after the first of the year for a much longer stay.Thanks for that report. Normally I don't follow the Pattaya section. But this report was very long, full of details and looked to be quite true and honest. Not really many men here would admit that they felt tired and need some time to rest.

I think, I would not be that patient to write such a long report here. Thanks again.

Maa Paa

Hobbyist2
06-30-11, 15:09
Thanks for that report. Normally I don't follow the Pattaya section. But this report was very long, full of details and looked to be quite true and honest. Not really many men here would admit that they felt tired and need some time to rest.

I think, I would not be that patient to write such a long report here. Thanks again.

Maa PaaMaa Paa,

Thanks for your comment. I have read some of your posts and viewed some of your photos. Thanks, I enjoyed them. I am glad you liked my report. I have gained valuable info from this forum, so I felt I needed to contribute. I don't post much, but when I do I try to make it detailed so it may be helpful for others. I had a few more encounters with ladies and was in many different bars, but didn't include them due to the length of my report. It would have been about the same as with the others. Lek was the best girl I had in every way. She was nice looking, but not a model type. I may look for some stunners next trip. I had some observations I was going to add but didn't. May be I will make some comments later or next trip report. I hope to stay for two months or so next time.

PolyOrchid
06-30-11, 15:59
There are more like twenty dozen languages spoken in Europe, actually.My good man. I think you may be taking a bit of a wiggle with the truth when you say 20 dozen, are you not?

Stakeout
06-30-11, 21:03
There are more like twenty dozen languages spoken in Europe, actually.
My good man. I think you may be taking a bit of a wiggle with the truth when you say 20 dozen, are you not?No, if you google it you'll see that 230 languages is a amount that is commonly stated.

Nvslim
07-01-11, 11:55
Snip.

I think, I would not be that patient to write such a long report here. Thanks again.

Maa PaaI had to hit page down 23 times to get past the quote just to read your post. Please save an old man eye strain and snip a bit. We will all appreciate it.

Slim

Daddy07
07-02-11, 01:34
This morning I woke up to find this text message on my cell phone:

"Goodmorningdaddy; nuday you gife fon go rume daddy 12 ocook ok. Prêt. I no haev maonny"

Naturally, I responded: "OK, honey."

I love this place.

Daddy

Stakeout
07-02-11, 05:25
This morning I woke up to find this text message on my cell phone:

"Goodmorningdaddy; nuday you gife fon go rume daddy 12 ocook ok. Prêt. I no haev maonny"

Naturally, I responded: "OK, honey."Translation?

Wendella
07-02-11, 06:52
"Goodmorningdaddy; nuday you gife fon go rume daddy 12 ocook ok. Prêt. I no haev maonny"Translation?Apparently she wants the guy to go to the room and offer some fun to these 12 cooks who are there, and to try to look pretty. Also she has no mother. I think we need a bit more background on this one.

TomJackin
07-02-11, 08:47
Apparently she wants the guy to go to the room and offer some fun to these 12 cooks who are there, and to try to look pretty. Also she has no mother. I think we need a bit more background on this one.You bastard! I just spit-up my screwdriver!

Maa Paa
07-02-11, 14:21
Snip snap.

Yes, sorry. You are right.

Next time I will try to remember your tip. Normally I try to keep my post quite short. Don't really know why I forgot it this time here.

Maa Paa

Stakeout
07-02-11, 18:22
What's the best website for weather forecasts for Pattaya. Preferably hour-by-hour? I would like somehting like this, but more accurate and reliable:

http://beta.yr.no/place/Thailand/Chon_Buri/Pattaya/hour_by_hour.html

LittleBigMan
07-02-11, 18:38
Translation?Good morning Daddy, new day your good friend Fon, can I come to your room at 12:00 noon okay please, I have no money.

LBM

Daddy07
07-03-11, 00:08
Good morning Daddy, new day your good friend Fon, can I come to your room at 12:00 noon okay please, I have no money.

LBMYep. Perfect translation. That's why you and me get more pussy in Pattaya than those other guys.

Ekspat
07-03-11, 00:42
I usually use.

www.wunderground.com


What's the best website for weather forecasts for Pattaya. Preferably hour-by-hour? I would like somehting like this, but more accurate and reliable:

http://beta.yr.no/place/Thailand/Chon_Buri/Pattaya/hour_by_hour.html

Stakeout
07-03-11, 03:31
Yep. Perfect translation.I thought "gife" would mean "girlfriend" rather than "good friend", and what on earth does "prêt" mean?

Daddy07
07-03-11, 03:41
I thought "gife" would mean "girlfriend" rather than "good friend", and what on earth does "prêt" mean?Actually, LBM got the gist of it right, but an even more perfect translation would be:

Good morning Daddy. Today you give Fon go room Daddy 12 o'clock ok please. I have no money.

Just read the message phonetically and fill in the blanks. It's Thaiglese, and this uneducated little 19 year-old speaks it far better than I can speak Thai.

Vittu
07-03-11, 03:47
Hobbyist2. Loved your report. It was a nice departure from the sameness of reports. I particularly liked your thumbnail sketches of the various ladies you interacted with. I could picture them in my mind.

Run Mann
07-03-11, 04:52
What's the best website for weather forecasts for Pattaya. Preferably hour-by-hour? I would like somehting like this, but more accurate and reliable:

http://beta.yr.no/place/Thailand/Chon_Buri/Pattaya/hour_by_hour.htmlWhat's the purpose of this?

Hobbyist2
07-03-11, 05:01
Hobbyist2. Loved your report. It was a nice departure from the sameness of reports. I particularly liked your thumbnail sketches of the various ladies you interacted with. I could picture them in my mind.Glad you liked the report. If my plans work out, I will be there for a much longer stay next trip. I will do my next report in Word first and then post it in sections, maybe weekly.

Wendella
07-03-11, 05:50
Yep. Perfect translation. That's why you and me get more pussy in Pattaya than those other guys.That would be pretty sad for those guys since I'm in Vietnam and get absolutely zero in Pattaya. Which is just slightly less than what I get in Vietnam come to think of it.

Amjeck
07-03-11, 15:16
That would be pretty sad for those guys since I'm in Vietnam and get absolutely zero in Pattaya.Yah, I'd hate to be one of "those guys".

Free Kick
07-04-11, 11:07
What's the best website for weather forecasts for Pattaya. Preferably hour-by-hour? I would like somehting like this, but more accurate and reliable:

http://beta.yr.no/place/Thailand/Chon_Buri/Pattaya/hour_by_hour.htmlI always go for weather. Com.

Here's the address.

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Pattaya+Thailand+THXX0015.

Then click on "Hourly" and in the hourly section you will find two tabs, overview which gives you a chart like you've shown and details which shows it in columns.

Sorry, couldn't paste the exact url as its extremely long!

FK

All About Bob
07-04-11, 18:01
Diamond agogo is more like a lump of coal than a diamond.

Rude staff and overpriced drinks, no nuidity, and old girls driving you mad for lady drinks.

Went there with a friend, the made a mistake on our bill, funnily enough it was in there favour for 2000 Baht, will not bother going again.

Just my two pence worth!

Amjeck
07-04-11, 18:17
Diamond agogo is more like a lump of coal than a diamond.

Rude staff and overpriced drinks, no nuidity, and old girls driving you mad for lady drinks.

Went there with a friend, the made a mistake on our bill, funnily enough it was in there favour for 2000 Baht, will not bother going again.

Just my two pence worth!Diamond a gogo fell out of the top ranks along with others a long time ago. Keep searching diamond hunter, or better to call you silver hunter. Not sure if you can find any diamonds or gold in the commercialized joints anymore. Pattaya has changed!

All About Bob
07-04-11, 18:33
Diamond a gogo fell out of the top ranks along with others a long time ago. Keep searching diamond hunter, or better to call you silver hunter. Not sure if you can find any diamonds or gold in the commercialized joints anymore. Pattaya has changed!Fully agree, but some poeple still doing a great job, Living dolls 2, Iron Club and whats up, never fail to deliver!

Almotu
07-05-11, 18:31
Yes and I like Angel Witch and Heaven Above. Last night found a 10 just walking through the street with her friend. They were both 20 and looking for foreigners. I just took them both straight to my hotel and they stayed until noon. We drank and fucked most of the night. They interacted with each other which made it even more enjoyable. Total cost 2, 000 Baht for them plus drinks.It has been 3 years since I have strolled down Walking Street, I am wondering what a "10" looks like? Do you have any pics showing her face and outfit that you might share with us? Also what time did you pick these girls up? And which hotel did you stay at that allowed 2 guests at the same time? I have never done THAT before.

Almotu
07-05-11, 18:35
Should be back in Pattaya this November for the first time in 3 years, I was wondering if Beach Road is still worth the hunt. Where are the best areas and time of day to check it out? I want to visit areas where I can avoid ladyboys. Any current intel would be appreciated. I assume the price point is still 500-700 ST and 1000 LT.

Hobbyist2
07-05-11, 18:53
Should be back in Pattaya this November for the first time in 3 years, I was wondering if Beach Road is still worth the hunt. Where are the best areas and time of day to check it out? I want to visit areas where I can avoid ladyboys. Any current intel would be appreciated. I assume the price point is still 500-700 ST and 1000 LT.You could start around soi 6 and go all the way to walking street, but I think it is best from soi 7 to Mike's Mall. Ladyboys are around in different areas. You can't avoid them, except to just say no thanks if they approach you. That's what I did and never had a problem. The rates are the same as you stated.

Hotman 666
07-06-11, 08:18
I was wondering if Beach Road is still worth the hunt.I agree with Hobbyist2 and should also add that I do not think that I have ever paid MORE than 500 Baht, short time (Sometimes less) on Beach Road!

I am in Pattaya at the moment and, for ME, Beach Road. (Coconut Bar) has always represented the best value in town.

OK they are not ALL 'perfect 10's' but anyway, us guys all like something different!

Two days ago I was walking Beach Road. And saw a rather cute girl of around 25 years old. She was 1. 46 mtr tall with a very slim body to match. A real 'spinner! '

After a short chat I invited her to join me for a coffee / cola and she proposed we buy from 7/11 as 'Other place expensive. 7/11 OK! ' So, she is saving me money already. Hmmmmmm, GOOD girl!

After we had had our drinks and a talk she joined me at my hotel for 'Short time. '

Our 'Short time. ' Lasted almost three hours and was GREAT! She REALLY enjoyed sex! So much so that when my finger, tongue or dick was not in her pussy she was playing with herself!

I had to get up rather early the next morning so, reluctantly let her go at around midnight with the agreed short time payment of 500 Baht.

I enjoyed it so much that I called her the next day and she came to meet me at my hotel at around 20. 00 hrs. We spent a rather pleasant few hours eating, drinking and talking at a small Thai place nearby and then back to my hotel. She left, the next day, after breakfast at around 10. 30 am.

Not bad value for a 500 Baht Coconut Bar short time! I must admit that I did slip a little extra tip into her handbag before she left. We then agreed to meet again in a few days time.

So, it is out there. You just have to invest a little time looking, be a 'nice guy, ' treat them well, and your investment will be WELL worth while.

It works for me!

Enjoy,

Hotman.

LetUsMeat
07-06-11, 16:26
Hobbyist2. Loved your report. It was a nice departure from the sameness of reports. I particularly liked your thumbnail sketches of the various ladies you interacted with. I could picture them in my mind.Can anybody provide a comparison of Girls in Pattaya with Penang or Angeles City? Percentage wise how much costly it is for girls in Penang compared with girls available in Pattaya?

Amjeck
07-06-11, 18:48
Having read a few of the recent comments I decided to 'Walk the Walk. ' The beach road walk.

I started from Soi 6 and ended at the entrance to the Walking Street. The walk started at around three thirty in the afternoon.

I have never seen such a collection of sorry looking people like this in Pattaya before. Thai girls and foreigners. The girls looked like the girls that are left over in the bar at the end of the night after all the half decent ones have been bar fined just leaving the dross. Well it seems the dross have given up hoping that some foreigner will bar fine them and moved to the beach where there are no bar fines. Here they will charge 500 Baht. But really who would want to pay 500 Baht for these? Many had plastered their faces with makeup and were trying to look sexy. It didn't work. In fact I have to put this down as one of the ugliest walks I've ever taken. If these girls don't work in bars it's probably because the bars don't want them. Many were fat and looked incredibly lazy. A few others looked sick as if they had some kind of disease.

Guys, a chack-wow would have been more exciting than the walk I took today.Is this your first time to Pattaya? Many years ago the beach road used to have gems sprinkled amongst the dogs. Unfortunately, the dogs are the only ones prowling these days.

The whole landscape of Pattaya has changed. Very few young cuties now days and every increasing prices. There are still some gems to be found, but they are mostly picked up by the expats (lots of them) who live there and troll the spots on their daily rounds. If you're into older women, mothers, and well worn pros, then Pattaya is heaven!

Ej2208
07-06-11, 19:30
I am planning my second trip to Pattaya in August. Do any members or Pattaya regulars wish to share a beer and swap some info? Please pm me. I'll be in Pattaya 2nd week Aug.

EJ

AssLover945
07-07-11, 08:02
. If you're into older women, mothers, and well worn pros, then Pattaya is heaven!Hahahahaha I really had a good laugh on this one.

Sunlover2
07-07-11, 09:42
The whole landscape of Pattaya has changed. Very few young cuties now days and every increasing prices. There are still some gems to be found, but they are mostly picked up by the expats (lots of them) who live there and troll the spots on their daily rounds. If you're into older women, mothers, and well worn pros, then Pattaya is heaven!I just returned from LOS and spent time in both Pattaya and Bangkok. Yes, the overall SW talent level in BKK (at the NPL for example) is much higher. But of the 100's of ladies on Beach Road there always seemed to be a handful of acceptable choices. You just have to be patient. If there are no acceptable choices just try again in an hour or two. I also found that you have a better chance of a GFE with the Pattaya ladies than with the Bangkok ladies. YMMV.

The majority of the Pattaye SW ladies were found during from the Central Festival Mall down to the Soi 13's.

SunLover

Ploughman
07-07-11, 11:29
Don't look now, but that "Colours of the East" festival is back July 7-10. They're filling the beach walk with tents from soi 6 or so down to Walking Street, leaving little space to walk. All are selling the kind of merchandise easily found at Thepprasit Market, in front of the Avenue, or at zillions of other places around town. The setup / teardown activity tends to clot Beach Road. And also affects 2 Road, not to mention all the girls, ladyboys, etc, temporarily displaced.

Also got the Buddha holiday soon (July 15-16) , so you'll have 3 weekends out of 4 with 2-day (or maybe 1. 5 day) official alcohol-sale shutdowns and bar closings. Just a heads-up.

Stakeout
07-07-11, 12:42
Don't look now, but that "Colours of the East" festival is back July 7-10. They're filling the beach walk with tents from soi 6 or so down to Walking Street, leaving little space to walk.In fact, it started yesterday (or was it two days ago). I hate it! Are the FLs regrouping to second road? Anyway, the tents seem to close down at 9 or 10 o'clock.


Also got the Buddha holiday soon (July 15-16) , so you'll have 3 weekends out of 4 with 2-day (or maybe 1. 5 day) official alcohol-sale shutdowns and bar closings. Just a heads-up.Damnit! I will be in Bangkok then. Will all bars be closed?

Trantinr
07-07-11, 13:23
Don't look now, but that "Colours of the East" festival is back July 7-10. They're filling the beach walk with tents from soi 6 or so down to Walking Street, leaving little space to walk. All are selling the kind of merchandise easily found at Thepprasit Market, in front of the Avenue, or at zillions of other places around town. The setup / teardown activity tends to clot Beach Road. And also affects 2 Road, not to mention all the girls, ladyboys, etc, temporarily displaced.

Also got the Buddha holiday soon (July 15-16) , so you'll have 3 weekends out of 4 with 2-day (or maybe 1. 5 day) official alcohol-sale shutdowns and bar closings. Just a heads-up.I am coming to Pattaya in early August and hope that this madness is over by the time I get there. Last year when this same thing was on it was terrible trying to find some talent.

HoyArroi
07-07-11, 15:02
I spent over 2 months in Pattaya on my recent visit to Thailand. My observation. Many of the ladies on BR / WS have probably seen better days. Some have that 1000 meter stare. Shell shocked from too many battles with foreigners who want too much for too little. I think the top 5% of the ladies working as freelancers in BR can hold their own against ANY of the overpriced dancers in the clubs / discos on WS. I was riding my motorbike early one morning. An attractive lady drew my attention. I parked near Soi 10, crossed BR, and now have her phone number / name and enjoy getting a call from her every 3-4 days when I'm in Pattaya. She isn't a stunner, but for 700 Baht, I feel I'm really getting my money's worth. Whats my point? Not all BR / WS ladies are P4P burnouts. Diamond miners have to sift through a lot of mud and silt before they find what they are looking for, right? Like playing Texas Hold'them. One has to wait, and pick their spots / opportunities when they present themselves. I found my gem around 9A! I've also been down BR at all hours of the day, and into early evening. I'm not hyper-selective, and I don't like walking sperm banks, but I have seen many ladies that I would really like to get to know in the bibical sense!

Keeniu
07-07-11, 15:18
Avoid Angel Witch.

They told me to leave or buy another drink, I was not drinking fast enough.

I questioned that and said who said so, who is the manager. To nil effect.

Needless to say, I left, and they also lost a barfine trying to chisel me for another drink.

Another annoying thing they do, if you are early, and you have a good front seat, they ask you to move or share another table.

So that they can give your table to a preferred player (mostly Japanese or Korean).

Avoid Angel Witch.

Hobbyist2
07-07-11, 23:48
I can't believe some of the negative reports I have read about Beach Road. Come on guys, do we really think that Beach Road should be full of stunners for 500 ST and 1000 LT? I know there aren't many, but occasionally you get some nice lookers. There were a couple of hotties that I could kick myself for not taking. However, if you don't find what you want, you can always go to one of the bars along Beach Road. The ones near Pattaya Klang, soi 7 & 8 have some decent ladies for 300 BF and 500 ST / 1000 LT. Now for a few hundred baht more you can go from BR to one of the bars and look for a lady or you could avoid it and leave it to those of us who appreciate it for what it is. For me, I like the hunt. It adds to the thrill.

An observation that got my attention on BR was not the not so lovely ladies, but the foreigners along BR that sit around with seemingly nothing to do. These were mostly older gentlemen. I don't mean any disrespect to older gentlemen, I am getting there myself. However, I think that sight looked more pathetic than the ugly women hanging out. I had one of these gentlemen stop within three steps of me when I was talking with a lady. He had a cell phone in his ear and just stood there without ever saying a word in the phone. When I stopped talking to the lady for about 15 seconds he walked away. Another time I was sitting and talking to a lady when an older gentleman stops an sits about three feet from us. There were many other vacant places he could have picked to sit in that general area, but he sat close to us. I don't know if they are so bored with themselves that they want to listen in on other people's conversations or what? Then I saw one guy sit amongst the ladys with no apparent interest in taking them. Shortly after I would see the ladys get up and move. Maybe I am missing something, but that was my observation as I saw it.

Fon Tok
07-08-11, 01:47
--So there you have it. You have the lowest of the low Thai girls fucking the lowest of the low foreigners.Natural selection at work. No mystery, really!

Amjeck
07-08-11, 02:28
Go to Pattaya and make some money from the fat, old and sometimes smelly foreigners that now live in Pattaya, patrol the beach road and who only pay 300 to 500 Baht for a fuck. It's pathetic and totally fucked up Pattaya. These women are the lowest of the low. Thai men don't even fuck them. No wonder it's getting so hard to find decent sexy looking girls in Pattaya.What's even more pathetic is guys are paying 2000ST for older girls with stretch marks from the gogo's. Now I know everybody has there preferences, but when guys pay high prices for low quality this starts to create a warped demand for a low quality girls which start to flow into the market place.

I'm not complaining, only making an observation. Pattaya can still be good, but you really got to understand how to hunt and that requires time and patience.

Many of the really hardcore mongers have moved away from Pattaya in the last few years. There is just far better value in other parts of the country if you're a seasoned monger.

Fon Tok
07-08-11, 03:44
Many of the really hardcore mongers have moved away from Pattaya in the last few years. There is just far better value in other parts of the country if you're a seasoned monger.And, where might these places of quality & value be?

TomJackin
07-08-11, 08:58
it's pathetic and totally fucked up pattaya. these women are the lowest of the low. thai men don't even fuck them. no wonder it's getting so hard to find decent sexy looking girls in pattaya. these girls are staying away because they are a few leagues above foreigners living here. the thais just about tolerate them but really think they are the lowest of the low. so there you have it. you have the lowest of the low thai girls fucking the lowest of the low foreigners.i've been going to pattaya since 1978, were you even born yet sangkid? nothing is pathetic and nothing has totally fucked up pattaya. i was here before you were in [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131). pattaya is what it is and has been that for decades, a monger's paradise!

there still many beautiful and hot thai women in pattaya and not just a couple, but hundreds. please share what county you have been to that has more per square mile, i'll wait for you answer. i've made 6 trips from the us in the last 3 years. the only difference is there are a lot more nationalities than in recent years. before you jump on the amjeck bandwagon, do the fucking research for yourself. and if you don't like what is happening in pattaya, stay the fuck home and jack off.

TomJackin
07-08-11, 09:01
And, where might these places of quality & value be?Yes, please help us uneducated mongers with your wisdom. After traveling to 30+ countries, I guess the best sucked in quality & value. Please enlighten our dumb asses.

Hotman 666
07-08-11, 10:30
But of the 100's of ladies on Beach Road there always seemed to be a handful of acceptable choices. You just have to be patient. If there are no acceptable choices just try again in an hour or two. I also found that you have a better chance of a GFE with the Pattaya ladies than with the Bangkok ladies.

SunLoverI have been reading all the recent posts on 'Beach Road' with interest. I still maintain that it is (for me) the BEST value for money in Pattaya.

There is some truth in ALL the recent reports regarding quality of providers.

YES, there are some (many) horrible, over the hill, providers who should have been pensioned off years ago.

BUT, I have always been able to find at least one cutie there as a playmate to keep me more than happy, especially in the afternoons!

ALL of us Mongers enjoy different things Tall / Short. Younger / Older. Big Boobs / Small Ones. Dark Skin or Light! It is the VARIETY of availability that keeps us guys happy.

I believe that, with a bit of searching, there is something for everybody there. Also on Beach Road. There is plenty of chance to talk with the girls to see if there is some 'compatibility' (if that is important to you!)

AND, at 500 Baht a pop it is not so expensive.

I am NOT looking for a 'perfect 10! ' An enthusiastic 'girl next door' type' will do it for me.

OK, you can pay 2, 000/3, 000 Baht elsewhere BUT you still stand a chance of a 'dead starfish experience! '

Let's try to and agree that there are good and bad experiences to be had EVERYWHERE in Pattaya!

Enjoy it ALL. (I do!)

Hotman.

Stakeout
07-08-11, 11:07
The Thai people's service mentality is well-known. That's why I was a bit astonished last night while walking around inside the Central Festival shopping mall fifteen minutes before closing time (11 p.m.).

Most shops looked closed (they had pulled down the "metal walls" halfway. What's the meaning of this, by the way?) and half had already closed. At 10.52 I entered a eyewear shop which looked open, but was told I had to leave. I can understand if it was 10.59 and I wanted to try every pair of glasses in the shop, but this? Very weird.

Do the shop owners know about this agree with this behavior?

Stakeout
07-08-11, 11:08
I spoke to my Thai friend about Buddha weekend next Friday and Saturday. Apparently the alcohol lockdown won't be as severe as during the election weekend. Bars will be open as usual but clubs might be closed, he said.

Keeniu
07-08-11, 13:53
The Thai people's service mentality is well-known. That's why I was a bit astonished last night while walking around inside the Central Festival shopping mall fifteen minutes before closing time (11 pm).

Most shops looked closed (they had pulled down the "metal walls" halfway. What's the meaning of this, by the way?) and half had already closed. At 10. 52 I entered a eyewear shop which looked open, but was told I had to leave. I can understand if it was 10. 59 and I wanted to try every pair of glasses in the shop, but this? Very weird.

Do the shop owners know about this agree with this behavior?Down = Go Away.

Easy. At 135 Bt day (daily shopkeeper wage) and what a 12 hour shift, I wouldn't hang around either.

In western countries at western wages and super expensive mall rents with strict conditions, yes they stay open to a standard.

Their home life and family is more important than a 50bt T-shirt sale. Also safety in numbers. Someone has to take the days

Takings home. Leave a bit later on your own robbers or police. Well you are asking for it.

Sangkid
07-08-11, 14:06
i've been going to pattaya since 1978, were you even born yet sangkid? nothing is pathetic and nothing has totally fucked up pattaya. i was here before you were in [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131). pattaya is what it is and has been that for decades, a monger's paradise!

there still many beautiful and hot thai women in pattaya and not just a couple, but hundreds. please share what county you have been to that has more per square mile, i'll wait for you answer. i've made 6 trips from the us in the last 3 years. the only difference is there are a lot more nationalities than in recent years. before you jump on the amjeck bandwagon, do the fucking research for yourself. and if you don't like what is happening in pattaya, stay the fuck home and jack off.my problem is that i like to fuck sexy, slim, beautiful young girls and you don't find these girls patrolling the beach road. in fact you don't find them anywhere in pattaya apart from the walking street. some years back i went through a stage of picking girls of the beach but i had three terrible experiences so i gave up. one was a drug addict; another just stank even after she showered and the third just lay there and did nothing. now i know i have to pay more in the walking street but i don't mind.

i think it is important for guys reading this forum, particularly young guys, to understand exactly how pattaya is. you have experience and you know the score. young guys coming to pattaya for the first time need to know where to find the young hot girls. they don't want to waste time searching the beach road and other areas where they won't find any young hot girls.

btw i'm not jumping on amjeck's bandwagon. just telling how it really is and i've been to and worked in loads of different countries.

as for [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) in 1978. not quite. now relax and enjoy your screw-driver.

Delgado
07-08-11, 18:02
Their home life and family is more important than a 50bt T-shirt sale. Also safety in numbers.Good luck finding a 50 Baht T-shirt at Central Festival.

Stakeout
07-08-11, 18:10
By 10. 52 a. M they have had enough of farangs. Do you really think they are going to entertain you 10. 52 pm The last thing they want is some farang coming in at that time after working a 12 hour day.Why the attitude? I just thought it was weird for a high end shopping mall. Okay if it was a bazar.

Stakeout
07-08-11, 18:12
At 135 Bt day (daily shopkeeper wage) and what a 12 hour shiftMm, I read somewhere that a good position at a decent hotel, say reception manager, they earn 200 bahts a day.

TomJackin
07-08-11, 22:15
My problem is that I like to fuck sexy, slim, beautiful young girls and you don't find these girls patrolling the beach road. In fact you don't find them anywhere in Pattaya apart from the Walking Street.

Now relax and enjoy your screw-driver.I've never read any reports where someone was raving about sexy, slim, beautiful young girls patrolling the beach road. The Coconut Bar is what it is, all sizes, shapes, and tastes of women, for a good price. But I can't recall a report that someone found the beauty of his dreams hanging out on beach road.

And the sexy, slim, beautiful young girls that are on walking street, are usual going or coming from work from one of the go go clubs, or they are heading out to discos.

That being said, there are gems all over Pattaya, and they always don't jump out at you. Patience is everything in this hobby.

And thank you, and if I recall, it was a tasty screw-driver.

Mr Enternational
07-08-11, 22:49
Mm, I read somewhere that a good position at a decent hotel, say reception manager, they earn 200 bahts a day.One of my non-pros just got promoted the other day from receptionist to assistant manager. She said she will be making 9, 000 baht / month. And my MILF high school teacher makes 30,000 baht/month.

Huevonn
07-09-11, 04:23
There are always diamonds in the rough of Beach Road. Not at all times and not everyday but if you just keep your eye out one will appear. I never went there specifically looking but it's a nice stroll anyway on a not tooo hot a day and great at night.

I was only in Patts for a couple of weeks and loved every minute of it, hooked up everywhere from Gogos (fun to hang out in and drink but iffy service) to massage parlor meet at my place after work arangements. And my best experience of all was a Beach Road young lady (22) down from Bangkok for the weekend. She worked in a massage place that caters to Japanese and clients had completely dried up because of the Red Shirt craziness going on at the time.

She had literally just arrived and had her carry bag with her and I smiled as I walked by-she smiled back, I stopped, we chatted a bit and I invited her for a drink. She took my hand and off we went for drinks, dancing a bit to eat and a night and morning of super out of this world passionate sex. Money was never even discussed.

Sunlover2
07-09-11, 12:08
I believe that, with a bit of searching, there is something for everybody there. Also on Beach Road. There is plenty of chance to talk with the girls to see if there is some 'compatibility' (if that is important to you!)

AND, at 500 Baht a pop it is not so expensive.

I am NOT looking for a 'perfect 10! ' An enthusiastic 'girl next door' type' will do it for me.Agreed. For me attitude is twice as important as looks. Quantified it would look something like this:

(looks x 1) + (attitude x 2) /3 = overall rating.

So a 10 looks and 7 attitude lady would rate an 8.

And a 7 looks and 10 attitude lady would rate a 9.

I looked for a Beach Road SW lady who is smiling and giggling even before I engage her. If she is in a decent mood sitting there talking to her friends that is a good sign. I would also check out the legs and make sure they are not too beaten up. I also preferred shopping during the day because it was easier to judge appearances; plus it was my experience that the LB presence during the day was near zero.

SunLover

Stakeout
07-09-11, 12:50
Next door to the famed Devil's Den Is a new place called Heavenly Inn. Has anybody tried this place? They don't seem do have a webpage, but it looks like Devil's Den (girls sitting around a table outside). Does the place operate like Devil's Den? Price?

Sunlover2
07-10-11, 11:24
So on the beach road where the average looks are 2 to 4 do you add say 5 for attitude to justify taking them.Unless you pick your ladies with a blindfold on the average of Beach Road looks has nothing to do with it. IMO there is a handful of better looking ladies to be had. You just need to seek them out. And I have had some decent GFE's with them. YMMV.

SunLover

Tim Bone
07-10-11, 20:06
Next door to the famed Devil's Den Is a new place called Heavenly Inn. Has anybody tried this place? They don't seem do have a webpage, but it looks like Devil's Den (girls sitting around a table outside). Does the place operate like Devil's Den? Price? It's a part of the DD establishment. It's just were they have the rooms. If you pay by card at DD it will appear on your statement as Heaven Inn

Stakeout
07-11-11, 05:07
When I was in Pattaya last time, six months ago, I really enjoyed the Happy gogo bar on Walking Street. So now when I returned to Pattaya I naturally went back there. I took a quick walk around the stage and noticed that all the girls looked plain, so I left straight away without sitting down.

The next night I thought I would give the place a new chance. Maybe the decent looking girls had already been barfined yesterday? However, at the door the doorman held up a sign with some Thai characters and "200 baht", which I interpreted as meaning the place was full so I have to pay entry. Needless to say, I didn't go in.

The third day, I went back and was again met by the 200-baht sign, which I thought was weird since it was quite early in the evening, maybe 9. 30.

After more than a week without going to Walking Street I returned and thought I would give Happy a last chance. This time I was let in without a problem and, as usual, I walked quickly around the stage to see if there were any good looking girls, but unfortunately all of them were very plain looking.

Now is when things got really weird. When I move towards the exit a doorman gives me a slight shoulder tackle and says something angrily. I try to open the exit door but he has locked me in. The doorman starts shouting at me, and motions me outside, unlocks the door, lets me out and continues his rant outside the door.

"Next time you pay 200 baht looking fee!", he shouts at me furiously and tries to look intimidating.

Aha! So that's why he held up the sign the previous times, I thought. He had recognized me and was angry for something which I thought was a totally acceptable behaviour. He thought I just went in to steal a free glance, whereas I always want to see what the girls look like before I sit down and order a drink. I have always thought it was okay to walk around the stage quickly and then leave (I have never seen a negative reaction to this before) , but when I think about it, most other punters don't do that. They just go in and sit down and order a drink, regardless of what the girls look like.

What is your opinion on all this? Are you obliged to buy at least one drink if you enter a gogo, or is it okay to leave after 30 seconds if you don't like what you see on stage?

Jon1283
07-11-11, 08:41
When I was in Pattaya last time, six months ago, I really enjoyed the Happy gogo bar on Walking Street. So now when I returned to Pattaya I naturally went back there. I took a quick walk around the stage and noticed that all the girls looked plain, so I left straight away without sitting down.

The next night I thought I would give the place a new chance. Maybe the decent looking girls had already been barfined yesterday? However, at the door the doorman held up a sign with some Thai characters and "200 baht", which I interpreted as meaning the place was full so I have to pay entry. Needless to say, I didn't go in.

The third day, I went back and was again met by the 200-baht sign, which I thought was weird since it was quite early in the evening, maybe 9. 30.

After more than a week without going to Walking Street I returned and thought I would give Happy a last chance. This time I was let in without a problem and, as usual, I walked quickly around the stage to see if there were any good looking girls, but unfortunately all of them were very plain looking.

Now is when things got really weird. When I move towards the exit a doorman gives me a slight shoulder tackle and says something angrily. I try to open the exit door but he has locked me in. The doorman starts shouting at me, and motions me outside, unlocks the door, lets me out and continues his rant outside the door.

"Next time you pay 200 baht looking fee!", he shouts at me furiously and tries to look intimidating.

Aha! So that's why he held up the sign the previous times, I thought. He had recognized me and was angry for something which I thought was a totally acceptable behaviour. He thought I just went in to steal a free glance, whereas I always want to see what the girls look like before I sit down and order a drink. I have always thought it was okay to walk around the stage quickly and then leave (I have never seen a negative reaction to this before) , but when I think about it, most other punters don't do that. They just go in and sit down and order a drink, regardless of what the girls look like.

What is your opinion on all this? Are you obliged to buy at least one drink if you enter a gogo, or is it okay to leave after 30 seconds if you don't like what you see on stage?I don't think you should be required to pay a fee; however, I think it is polite to but a drink if you go inside. The price is cheap enough. When I go in I may get something cheap and then do a walk around before they bring it to the location I plan on sitting down at. I will normally walk around right from the get go. Additionally if I like it then I may order a few drinks there. If I don't then I leave (Sometimes without finishing the drink, just to avoid too many ladies coming up to me when I am not interested). I think its just being polite. Most strip clubs have an entrance fee in most countries. Going into a place, the least you can do is buy a drink.

Daddy07
07-11-11, 10:03
...What is your opinion on all this? Are you obliged to buy at least one drink if you enter a gogo, or is it okay to leave after 30 seconds if you don't like what you see on stage?I'm a frequent customer of Happy. I've seen Japanese, Korean, and Farang customers come in, walk around the stage, and then leave many times without any interference from the doorman.

I've never heard of such a thing as you describe in any Walking Street go-go bar, but I have seen them turn away Indian and Arab customers before they can get through the door. If you meet that description it might explain why they treated you that way.

Stakeout
07-11-11, 10:39
i'm a frequent customer of happy. i've seen japanese, korean, and farang customers come in, walk around the stage, and then leave many times without any interference from the doorman.

i've never heard of such a thing as you describe in any walking street go-go bar, but i have seen them turn away indian and arab customers before they can get through the door. if you meet that description it might explain why they treated you that way.i am north european (fair skinned and fair haired) and not too scruffy looking.

by the way, i forgot to say, i did get the 200-baht sign a couple of times six months ago, but then it was late at night som i assumed they were full.

so, apparently the sign says "looking fee 200 baht" (because this is what the angry doorman said). why not write "looking fee" in english so people understand? and morevoer, since 200 baht is twice the price of a drink. would would pay the looking fee instead of a drink? i think what he means with the sign is "i recognize you and know you sometimes just take a quick peek and then leave. this annoys me. if you do this again you have to pay 200 baht when leaving".

this brings me to another question. thais in general don't read and write the roman (falang) alphabet, do they? they don't really have any real use of it, compared to learning english phrases phonetically, which they really have use of. same as us falangs. we learn som thai phrases, but learning their alphabet is a bit of a stretch for most of us.

Run Mann
07-11-11, 10:54
I have always thought it was okay to walk around the stage quickly and then leave (I have never seen a negative reaction to this before) , but when I think about it, most other punters don't do that. They just go in and sit down and order a drink, regardless of what the girls look like.Not true, I scope out clubs all the time to see if anything catches my eyes before I decide to stay and I see many others doing the same thing but what is it about Happy that made you keep going back even after you said the girls looked so plain. There are so many other bars in town that this should not even be an issue for you. Surely you won't visit them again, will you?

Stakeout
07-11-11, 11:00
I think its just being polite. Most strip clubs have an entrance fee in most countries. Going into a place, the least you can do is buy a drink.Well, I always try to be polite when scanning the place, smiling and greeting everyone in Thai. But how am I supposed to know I am obliged to buy a drink if I go inside, even if the place is horrible? And talking of polite, how polite was the doorman to me?

Stakeout
07-11-11, 11:05
Not true, I scope out clubs all the time to see if anything catches my eyes before I decide to stay and I see many others doing the same thingWhat do you mean by "not true"? I wrote that most people who enter a club tend to sit down more or less where they are told, without first walking around the club's stage and scoping the talent, like you and me.


what is it about Happy that made you keep going back even after you said the girls looked so plain.I have already explained why: "The next night I thought I would give the place a new chance. Maybe the decent looking girls had already been barfined yesterday?"

Stakeout
07-11-11, 12:07
If you have had a bargirl for LT (for which I usually pay them 1 000 baht) and wish to keep your bargirl over the next day, meaning from breakfast till the early evening, how much will the girl generally want for this (apart from you naturally paying for her expenses during the day)?

Sangkid
07-11-11, 13:38
Agreed. For me attitude is twice as important as looks. Quantified it would look something like this:

(looks x 1) + (attitude x 2) /3 = overall rating.

So a 10 looks and 7 attitude lady would rate an 8.

And a 7 looks and 10 attitude lady would rate a 9.

SunLoverJust had a 15.

Looks 9 plus attitude 3 plus pussy smell 3 equals 15. We had a great time. Drinks, food and then to bed. Yes I had to pay a Go-Go Bar Fine and more than the 50 Baht Beach Road price but this is what I like and don't mind doing for a sexy young girl with great attitude and great smelling pussy.

Almotu
07-11-11, 16:41
When I was in Pattaya last time, six months ago, I really enjoyed the Happy gogo bar on Walking Street. So now when I returned to Pattaya I naturally went back there. I took a quick walk around the stage and noticed that all the girls looked plain, so I left straight away without sitting down.

The next night I thought I would give the place a new chance. Maybe the decent looking girls had already been barfined yesterday? However, at the door the doorman held up a sign with some Thai characters and "200 baht", which I interpreted as meaning the place was full so I have to pay entry. Needless to say, I didn't go in.

The third day, I went back and was again met by the 200-baht sign, which I thought was weird since it was quite early in the evening, maybe 9. 30.

After more than a week without going to Walking Street I returned and thought I would give Happy a last chance. This time I was let in without a problem and, as usual, I walked quickly around the stage to see if there were any good looking girls, but unfortunately all of them were very plain looking.

What is your opinion on all this? Are you obliged to buy at least one drink if you enter a gogo, or is it okay to leave after 30 seconds if you don't like what you see on stage?I think it is the frequency of your visits that pissed him off (he could have been having a bad day or week as well) Remember where you are talking about, they will always try to invent new ways to separate you from your money. When I am on holiday, I try to keep a low profile and would not go back to a place that is so confrontational. There are many other places that deserve your business.

Almotu
07-11-11, 18:02
Can any experienced mongers comment of the quality of talent in the bars and / or go-gos that are not located in the touristy parts of Pattaya? I found this post about bars in an area past Sukhumvit. Please read the complete post FIRST.

<<Welcome to the 'Dark Side' Most people visiting Pattaya will more than likely have heard of Pattaya's 'Dark Side' but, for those new to Pattaya and for those who haven't let me explain what, and where the 'Dark Side' is.

People going on holiday / vacation to Pattaya, Thailand will have no doubt heard of its vibrant colorful nightlife, or to put it another way 'sex industry' and if that's what you are looking for in a holiday / vacation then Pattaya is the place to be, where even the oldest codger can feel young again. Providing he has money in his pockets that is!

Although the main beer bar complex's, 'Entertainment zones' are found between Pattaya's beach road and second road, more and more are opening further a field. Soi Bhukhoa (Bukow) and Soi LK Metro are only a short walk away from Pattaya beach and are becoming more popular with first time visitors and expats a like.

All of Pattaya's beer bar complexes are with in walking distance or can be reached by Baht bus in a matter of minutes. However if you do not fancy doing your 'courting' under the bright lights and load music of Pattaya City or, are just looking for something different then why not venture out to Pattaya's 'Dark Side' A part from money don't forget to take a towel and your swimming trunks! Even if it is 10PM.

Firstly let me dispel the rumors. Pattaya's 'Dark Side' has nothing to do with it being a place where you will have to go to to find 'gay men' or 'ladyboy's' A visit to Pattaya's 'Dark Side' does not mean you are gay or 'experimental' Yes, gay men and ladyboy's can be found in the 'Dark Side' but there again they can be found everywhere in Pattaya. Neither does the 'Dark Side' have any thing to do with 'Star Wars' and Darth Vader, So, I would not suggest taking the children!

Pattaya's 'Dark Side' is simply a common name given to the area east of the Sukhumvit road and the train tracks that lie just beyond it. The 'Dark Side'. A large area of Pattaya that is mainly without street lighting. The area is very popular with expats as you will see by the number of gated / secure housing complexes. Land prices and therefore rents are considerably cheaper in the 'Dark Side' Also, living on the 'Dark Side' means having to drive in to Pattaya. A bit like going out on a Saturday night in your country, it's nice to make the effort every now and then. The 'Dark Side' is relatively a haven of piece and tranquility on the edge of insanity!

Where there is housing, there are people, and where there are people in Pattaya, there are going to be beer bars, and beer bars employ bar girls or hostesses. There are more than fifty beer bars in the area known as the "Dark Side" nearly all of them have 'short time rooms' Where you may take your "new girlfriend" for some horizontal exercise for a small fee. Some of the beer bars even have 'swimming pools' too. Having never been in to one of these establishments? I will have to leave it to your imagination has to what happens in this type of beer bar.

For a really great night out, get together with your friends, hire a Baht bus for the evening and do some exploring in the beer bars of Pattaya's 'Dark Side'

Popular beer bar areas are Soi Nernplabwan, Soi Crocodial, Soi Khao Noi, Soi Khao Talo, Soi Siam Country Club.>>

I am also looking for recommended places to visit in Naklua and Jontiem. Or should I not even bother = stick to South Pattaya because it is all the "Same Same"? I will be there during high season, first week of December. Last time I was in Pattaya was 2008.

Mouse1
07-11-11, 18:46
rubbish. i never enter a club and never buy a drink. from time to time i do see some idiots, scoping out clubs, walking around like they think they know it all and expecting girls to fall at their feet. maybe even seen you. do you get away with it in your own country?

bars change from week to week. girls change. managers change etc. etc. what's good one week can be bad the next week and vice versa. that's the way it is so why shouldn't he keep going back to happy.i don't see anything wrong with going into a club and having a quick look around to decide whether you like the ambience, the layout, the number of girls, the noise level, etc etc. probably most of the time you can get that from a peek around the curtain, but a quick look around shouldn't be a problem to the management. why should it?

never been to a strip bar in my country, but plenty of times i've walked into a pub then decided i didn't like it and walked out. what's the big deal?

if you walked into a club and there were 2 ugly girls. 50 punters and no seats, would you stay? of course not.

Mr Enternational
07-11-11, 20:35
This brings me to another question. Thais in general don't read and write the Roman (Falang) alphabet, do they? They don't really have any real use of it, compared to learning English phrases phonetically, which they really have use of. Same as us falangs. We learn som Thai phrases, but learning their alphabet is a bit of a stretch for most of us.There are four parts to literacy: reading, writing, listening, and speaking. I would not say there is an "in general" as far as your question is concerned. I would say it depends on how far the paticular person went in school. Most Thais who speak English learn it as a second language in public school. And the first thing you are taught when you learn a foreign language is the alphabet for that language. Then there are the other Thais who will have learned English informally and on the fly. This includes some taxi drivers, street corner salespeople, and such. They are able to speak minimally, and listen for understanding when you speak slowly and clearly, but maybe not read or write. Anyway, I have noticed that the people who speak basic English and above are able to read and write it, so they do in fact have use for the Roman alphabet.

Orange Crust
07-11-11, 22:23
If you have had a bargirl for LT (for which I usually pay them 1 000 baht) and wish to keep your bargirl over the next day, meaning from breakfast till the early evening, how much will the girl generally want for this (apart from you naturally paying for her expenses during the day)?I've had tonnes of luck getting extra time by saying I want the girl to stay. Offer food etc and say that you will go to the bar and pay tomorrows barfine right away. This happens before the bar is opened so no need for lady drinks etc. Or on other occations I've had girls say that common phrase around the extra tip."Up to you". In that case it's up to you and you may get a little puppy dog sad face if your tip is light but whatever you think is right is the right answer.

Paying the next day bf is the way I go often but your YMMV.

Crusty

Opebo
07-11-11, 23:22
This brings me to another question. Thais in general don't read and write the Roman (Falang) alphabet, do they? They don't really have any real use of it, compared to learning English phrases phonetically, which they really have use of.The great majority do: at least the alphabet and sometimes a few words of English are taught in most schools (though usually poorly). Knowing just these basics and with a pecuniary incentive they typically pick up a lot very quickly in Pattaya. In fact they do have a lot of uses for it, such as exchanging SMS with foreigners, using the internet, etc.

Here's an example of an SMS I just received:

"Hello, tilak (my name misspelled drastically) are you ok? Good sleep ok and hope you want to see me and want to fuck my ass again tonight ok(her name) sexzy ass."

Edward M
07-11-11, 23:39
by the way, i forgot to say, i did get the 200-baht sign a couple of times six months ago, but then it was late at night som i assumed they were full.

so, apparently the sign says "looking fee 200 baht"this is funny. typically the door girls are trying to drag you in, not you trying to sneak a peek. just to be safe you could say before walking in to a bar,"is there a cover fee?" or "i will just take a look, ok?" then if anyone tries to pull a "looking fee" on you just say,"no thank you. i don't pay looking fees. if i like the way the girls look i will have a drink and stay." and then walk away. vote with your feet.

Jon1283
07-12-11, 01:55
i don't see anything wrong with going into a club and having a quick look around to decide whether you like the ambience, the layout, the number of girls, the noise level, etc etc. probably most of the time you can get that from a peek around the curtain, but a quick look around shouldn't be a problem to the management. why should it?

never been to a strip bar in my country, but plenty of times i've walked into a pub then decided i didn't like it and walked out. what's the big deal?

if you walked into a club and there were 2 ugly girls. 50 punters and no seats, would you stay? of course not.this is an excellent point; however, the buisness here is not really the alcohol. at a bar the primary purpose of the owner is to sell alcohol to make money, likewise, the purpose of these establishments are to entice gentlemen to barfine the girls, the alcohol helps do that and makes the owners money at the same time. if you choose not to drink at a bar where you are from its because there is no space or not the adequate environement, usually not because they don't have a drink that you want. at these bars you trying to get a taste of the merchandise for free. you are shopping for the girls (which is the primary purpose of these establishments) without contributing to the owner of that establishment (buying one cheap drink that cost you a couple bucks). i have walked in and saw there was no place to sit and walk out just passing the curtain on the establishment. by doing a walk around you are looking at the goods without contributing to the buisness.

Jon1283
07-12-11, 02:10
Well, I always try to be polite when scanning the place, smiling and greeting everyone in Thai. But how am I supposed to know I am obliged to buy a drink if I go inside, even if the place is horrible? And talking of polite, how polite was the doorman to me?You are right. The doorman was not polite to you. That is ignorance thought. Unless you can freely communicate in Thai. He is doing the best he can to communicate in English with you. You can not have the same expectations as far as courtseys go from a third world country. They were not raised the same way you were. Money is what drives this country. Your actions are actions that are perceived as disrespectful to this man or this establishment. A 55 baht or even a 90 baht drink is a small price to pay to keep good relations with a establisment that you may frequent again. If you choose not to frequent this establisment again then don't worry about buying the drink. But if you may want to then it's just a good policy or courtesey to buy a reasonably cheap drink even if you don't drink it. I order water or a cheap beer and sometimes don't drink it just to get a good look at the place.

AssLover945
07-12-11, 04:49
Been here long enough to understand a few reasons why Pattaya has become such a popular location for older women, mothers and well-worn pros. This is the only place that they can get fucked and make a very small amount of money. The message must have been sent to all ugly women in Thailand. Go to Pattaya and make some money from the fat, old and sometimes smelly foreigners that now live in Pattaya, patrol the beach road and who only pay 300 to 500 Baht for a fuck. It's pathetic and totally fucked up Pattaya. These women are the lowest of the low. Thai men don't even fuck them. No wonder it's getting so hard to find decent sexy looking girls in Pattaya. These girls are staying away because they are a few leagues above foreigners living here. Why would they work in Pattaya where they have to deal with these people? The cheap rabbit like condos that have sprung up everywhere don't help. Foreigners buy these 25 square meter hutches and actually live in them. They drink excessive amounts of alcohol every day which helps give them the down and out pathetic appearance. The Thais just about tolerate them but really think they are the lowest of the low. So there you have it. You have the lowest of the low Thai girls fucking the lowest of the low foreigners.SO different for what the scene was 7 years ago. I quickly came back to Bangkok after the first 2 days instead of the 4 days planned.

Nixonbd
07-12-11, 12:21
Can anybody provide me a link to a reputable transfer service for pick-up at BKK and transport to PTY hotels. Something more upscale than just an airport taxi. Maybe a service that also offers refreshments (water, beer, etc) for the trip? I would like to be able to book online. On my last visit we had transportation service like I seek through the PH hotel, but not sure if they're owned / operated by the PH. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.

Bigce
07-12-11, 13:41
Can anybody provide me a link to a reputable transfer service for pick-up at BKK and transport to PTY hotels. Something more upscale than just an airport taxi. Maybe a service that also offers refreshments (water, beer, etc) for the trip? I would like to be able to book online. On my last visit we had transportation service like I seek through the PH hotel, but not sure if they're owned / operated by the PH. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.Best service available is the Limo Pattaya. Google it for email and phone number. I have used them for years and never a probelm.

Gwailo
07-12-11, 16:04
Can anybody provide me a link to a reputable transfer service for pick-up at BKK and transport to PTY hotels. Something more upscale than just an airport taxi. Maybe a service that also offers refreshments (water, beer, etc) for the trip? I would like to be able to book online. On my last visit we had transportation service like I seek through the PH hotel, but not sure if they're owned / operated by the PH. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.I've never taken a taxi to Pattaya but I found this secret website http://www.google.com And entered the phrase 'taxi service to Pattaya'. They provided quite a few links.

Good luck!

TomJackin
07-12-11, 17:54
Can anybody provide me a link to a reputable transfer service for pick-up at BKK and transport to PTY hotels. Something more upscale than just an airport taxi. Maybe a service that also offers refreshments (water, beer, etc) for the trip? I would like to be able to book online. On my last visit we had transportation service like I seek through the PH hotel, but not sure if they're owned / operated by the PH. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.I use a driver from Nana Transport, his name is Amuay, pm me for the mobile number.

Others have used this service:

http://www.pattayataxi.info/

When are you going? Because I'll be there in a little over a week. Soi 6 crawl?

Stakeout
07-12-11, 19:21
When I am on holiday, I try to keep a low profile and would not go back to a place that is so confrontational. There are many other places that deserve your business.I will naturally not return to Happy. Just thought I would share my experience, discuss what the etiquette is when entering a club and the weird 200-baht sign the doorman at Happy uses.

Stakeout
07-12-11, 19:23
a quick look around shouldn't be a problem to the management. Why should it?The doorman's opinion was that you are not aloud to look for free.

Gaolei
07-12-11, 19:41
i use a driver from nana transport, his name is amuay, pm me for the mobile number.

others have used this service:

http://www.pattayataxi.info/

when are you going? because i'll be there in a little over a week. soi 6 crawl?i always use them. on every trip, they meet me, wait for my girlfriend to arrive 45 minutes later, carry my bags to the car, drive at a good speed, not killer fast, but not slow. they will stop at the rest area on the motorway if you ask when they start. you can get anything there from a slurpy to kfc.

when i went back to bangkok, i just called in the morning at 8 and i had a car waiting at my hotel at 9:30. he took me to my hotel in bangkok, with a stop for an egg mac muffin at the rest stop. i can't say enough good things about them. they charge 1000 bt to pattaya and pay the tolls and garage fee. i always tip a couple hundred bt, because we all want to live a good life, including the driver.

Rjsss212
07-12-11, 20:47
...you are not aloud to look for free.

Maybe they want to keep the noise down...

BionicMan
07-12-11, 21:53
I always tip a couple hundred Bt, because we all want to live a good life, including the driver.The price police will not jump on you as this is not a girl price. Anyhow I perfectly agree in tipping abit for the said reasons

Nixonbd
07-13-11, 01:05
I've never taken a taxi to Pattaya but I found this secret website.

http://www.google.com

And entered the phrase 'taxi service to Pattaya'. They provided quite a few links.

Good luck!It would be so easy to just call you an asshole.

Nixonbd
07-13-11, 01:10
Best service available is the Limo Pattaya. Google it for email and phone number. I have used them for years and never a probelm.Thanks for the info. I just got a response from them. I think they're quoting 2400 bht for round-trip. Only question I have out there is if they offer beverage service of any kind. They don't take any CC info, payment is cash, which I have no ploblem with. What would a regular taxi cost from the airport to Pattaya?

Nixonbd
07-13-11, 01:16
I use a driver from Nana Transport, his name is Amuay, pm me for the mobile number.

Others have used this service:

http://www.pattayataxi.info/

When are you going? Because I'll be there in a little over a week. Soi 6 crawl?Appreciate the offer. Do not arrive until 9/3/11. Enjoy your trip!

Jon1283
07-13-11, 01:35
Thanks for the info. I just got a response from them. I think they're quoting 2400 bht for round-trip. Only question I have out there is if they offer beverage service of any kind. They don't take any CC info, payment is cash, which I have no ploblem with. What would a regular taxi cost from the airport to Pattaya?Normally around 1500 up to PAttaya and 1200 from Pattaya to Bangkok. There is some room for negotiations. 2400 round-trip is a good deal.

Jon1283
07-13-11, 01:41
i always use them. on every trip, they meet me, wait for my girlfriend to arrive 45 minutes later, carry my bags to the car, drive at a good speed, not killer fast, but not slow. they will stop at the rest area on the motorway if you ask when they start. you can get anything there from a slurpy to kfc.

when i went back to bangkok, i just called in the morning at 8 and i had a car waiting at my hotel at 9:30. he took me to my hotel in bangkok, with a stop for an egg mac muffin at the rest stop. i can't say enough good things about them. they charge 1000 bt to pattaya and pay the tolls and garage fee. i always tip a couple hundred bt, because we all want to live a good life, including the driver.i am using them this week as well. i normally want to get there sooner and spend less time in the vehicle so i usually try to get them to go faster. i ask them how long it will take and normally try to get there between 15 and 30 minutes before depending on the time they quote. i then offer to tip them good if they can get me there by (enter a specific time, normally based on the time they quoted minus 15-30 minutes.

TomJackin
07-13-11, 03:10
I have a lot of extra time this upcoming trip and would like to make 2-3 Soi 6 bar crawls. In the last couple of years, I've only been to Red Point and Lisa Bar.

So I'm looking for some serious feedback on the seediest and down & dirty bars on Soi 6. Your favorite and why would be a great help as well.

Please, no Pook, Hi Boss, or So What Bar suggestions.

If you are around, I'll buy a few!

RasSpewtin
07-13-11, 03:48
I have a lot of extra time this upcoming trip and would like to make 2-3 Soi 6 bar crawls. In the last couple of years, I've only been to Red Point and Lisa Bar.

So I'm looking for some serious feedback on the seediest and down & dirty bars on Soi 6. Your favorite and why would be a great help as well.

Please, no Pook, Hi Boss, or So What Bar suggestions.

If you are around, I'll buy a few!Hey Tom;

First I all I want to admit that the following recommendations come from experiences going back a few years, so of course things may have changed. You mention Red Point and that has been my favorite overall thanks to Dao. I once had a great 3some at the King Kong bar, very memorable. Did some takeout from the Mandarin bar, with some good results.

Sleeziest overall experience was in the My Friend You bar, where I would have done well to have a look at the young lady in the daylight first before taking her upstairs. Her service was over the top, but I needed to keep my eyes closed at times due to some aesthetic marginality on her part.

Cheers;

Raz

Butter69
07-13-11, 08:48
So I'm looking for some serious feedback on the seediest and down & dirty bars on Soi 6. Your favorite and why would be a great help as well.

Please, no Pook, Hi Boss, or So What Bar suggestions.I've enjoyed a great time at Saigon Bar and Chilli Bar. Can't remember the girls names though. Both girls gave good BJ's and offered CIM. No extra charge.

Paid 300 for the room, and 700 for the girl.

Sunlover2
07-13-11, 10:17
Can anybody provide me a link to a reputable transfer service for pick-up at BKK and transport to PTY hotels. Something more upscale than just an airport taxi. Maybe a service that also offers refreshments (water, beer, etc) for the trip? I would like to be able to book online. On my last visit we had transportation service like I seek through the PH hotel, but not sure if they're owned / operated by the PH. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.I have used Bell Travel Service and they have been super. Very efficient and professional. Their normal service is a shared service, but if you contact them I believe they do have private cars and vans available:

http://www.belltravelservice.com/

SunLover

Member #4807
07-13-11, 10:42
Bell travel is perfect. They take you to Pattaya station from wer you get a van to hotel. All inclusive in price. Guess around 200 thb one way, trip takes more or less same taxi drive. But check with them via email. Then if you want sumting upscale & really posh go for the Penthouse limo!


I have used Bell Travel Service and they have been super. Very efficient and professional. Their normal service is a shared service, but if you contact them I believe they do have private cars and vans available:

http://www.belltravelservice.com/

SunLover

Nixonbd
07-13-11, 13:18
Normally around 1500 up to PAttaya and 1200 from Pattaya to Bangkok. There is some room for negotiations. 2400 round-trip is a good deal.It's actually a bit cheaper; 1200 on arrival to Pattyaya and 1000 for the return trip, water provided.

Jon1283
07-13-11, 16:25
It's actually a bit cheaper; 1200 on arrival to Pattyaya and 1000 for the return trip, water provided.I am including the price for tolls in my figures. But you are correct in that it is a bit cheaper.

Mr Enternational
07-13-11, 16:29
Thanks for the info. I just got a response from them. I think they're quoting 2400 bht for round-trip. Only question I have out there is if they offer beverage service of any kind. They don't take any CC info, payment is cash, which I have no ploblem with. What would a regular taxi cost from the airport to Pattaya?Dude, the ride is only 1 hour and 15 minutes and you need a beverage service? Pick up some water out of Family Mart in the airport for 7 baht and keep going. Usually a taxi from BKK airport to Pattaya is 1000 baht + 60 baht tolls. People will try to get you for 1300. Since I started speaking a little Thai I have been getting them for 900 all in by jokingly telling them I am Thai while showing my Thai drivers license, and saying the numbers in Thai.

I say: Pattaya tao rai khrap?

They say: One thousand three hundred baht.

I say: (raising voice) MAI DAI! (can not) Bad roi, na? (800, right?)

They say: Neung pun (1000).

I say: Gao roi thuk yang, pah! (900 everything, let's go)

They say: Pah. (let's go) and get out of the car to open the trunk.

From Pattaya to the airport it is 800 baht + 60 baht tolls. If you flight arrives between 7am & 5pm you can take the bus (http://www.belltravelservice.com/) that will take you right to your hotel for 200 baht. Likewise if your flight departs between 12pm and after (last bus from Pattaya at 5pm) you can use this option as well.

MongerKing
07-13-11, 17:40
Guys,

I'm planning on visiting Pattaya in October 2011. I last visited 5 years ago and prices were around 1000-1500 for LT. Can anyone advise on what the prices and quality is like these days? I realise prices are up, the same hotel I used is even up by 35%.

Thanks!

WildHawk
07-13-11, 17:52
So I'm looking for some serious feedback on the seediest and down & dirty bars on Soi 6.In late June I had a fair time with a girl at a short-time place called Sexy in the City, which had a couple of lookers. The price was 700 baht for the girl. 300 for the room, one hour. Regret to say that I forgot her name, but her getup was that she was wearing a baseball hat. 23 years old (wouldn't know that she had a child) , fabulous smile and amazingly pearly white teeth. BUUUUT be warned about this place, and perhaps much of Soi 6, and that is bars that mix real girls and LBs. As we chatted inside the bar (all of the available girls were touting out front, as seems to be the custom on Soi 6).

While chatting with the girl I suggested that there was another girl outside who looked great and might make a good threesome partner. So my girl exited and summoned a completely different, um. Thing. A LB hopped up on meth. The LB gave the girl (fortunately not me) a rough slap on the shoulder when I immediately sent him on his way, to which my friend just laughed. Within a couple minutes, the true object of my affection entered the bar on the arms of another punter. Oh well.

Upstairs, the room was fairly clean and the sex standard but enjoyable enough that I considered meeting the girl for dancing later on. But by 2 a. M. I was pretty tired, so didn't show. I did remark to the girl that she was exceptionally attractive and could make more money working at a Walking Street gogo. Her reply was something to the effect that she thought that dancing topless was disgusting. Go figure.

I have not posted on that Patts trip but have come to the personal conclusion that hiring the girls for overnight was in general a waste. Now this is true the world over, unless you say, snag a semipro Filipina in Hong Kong, but unless you are a vampire and go to sleep at 9 a. M, you will be in nothing but bother. Only one in three of my LTs (barfines from Walking Street gogos) worked out as agreed (boom boom, sleep, wake and boom boom, breakfast and bye-bye) , and this was a 28 year old from Cassynovy who was all over me like I was a rock star. A hostess from Cave Bar as well as a girl from Super Baby were true pains in the ass. The Super Baby girl had wanted me to pay upfront in the bar, which I wisely refused. Back at the hotel she watched TV while I slept. At the time of my constitutionally provided boom boom she refused and said that I pounded her too long the night before, about the same time she insisted that I buy her food from room service. As a breakfast buffet for two was part of my hotel, I informed her that I would not be spending extra money but that she could join me for breakfast. She refused, so I sent her packing with the ST fee of 2000 baht, far too generous in retrospect.

That was my last piece in Thailand. Fortunately, a couple hours before barfining the Super Baby girl I had mind-blowing sex upstairs at Nui's Club on Walking Street. Mam, short orange-ish hair. 26 or so. I pleasured her with DATY that triggered multiple orgasms. Made her VERY happy, and she repaid the favor. I went through the checklist positions and as I got into position for the agreed-upon CIM, I exploded with a porn-flick quality showing (hair, eyes, poooor girl). Her response was to laugh with hilarity. A real sweetheart!

Soooo, the long story is that short seems to be a better option in Patts, IMHO.

Betong
07-14-11, 06:17
I know seedy and dirty is appealing but when you add ugly to the mix is it still appealing?There's more ugly on Soi 6 now for sure, and more fat too. But if you're willing to keep trolling up and down the soi (though it does get a little embarrassing) sooner or later you can usually find something nice. And if not, well, just walk up Saai 2 to the soapies.

Red Point has declined sharply in the last year or two. And there's an especially nasty mama-san behind the bar who likes to insult farang in Thai, assuming they won't understand. Last time I told her exactly what I thought of that, and haven't been back since.

For consistent down-and-out sleaze, it's hard to beat My Friend You these days. But there's a reason they keep those rooms so dark.

Butter69
07-14-11, 12:51
Did they have a good attitude. Say 5 for attitude and 2 for looks?Rating from 1 to 10.

The girls that I took, were about 7 for looks. 9 for the body, and attitude was 10.

They gave me a great time. No hassles about buying them a drink.

I chose them while they were sitting outside, I bought myself a drink, had a nice grope with them.

Then agreed to take them upstairs.

Nice shower together, with BJ in shower.

Then back to the bed, for another BJ, and good sex. No rush.

The nice thing about Saigon girls, is that they try to dress up each day in a different outfit.

Eg. Nurse, devil, etc.

Butter69
07-14-11, 12:53
Guys,

I'm planning on visiting Pattaya in October 2011. I last visited 5 years ago and prices were around 1000-1500 for LT. Can anyone advise on what the prices and quality is like these days? I realise prices are up, the same hotel I used is even up by 35.

Thanks!Surprisingly prices for girls have not changed much at all.

While I was there I have paid 1000, 1500 & 2000 for long time. Depends on the girl.

But short time has always been around 1000, if the girls are from a beer bar or from a disco.

Nongpagba
07-14-11, 14:56
There's more ugly on Soi 6 now for sure, and more fat too. But if you're willing to keep trolling up and down the soi (though it does get a little embarrassing) sooner or later you can usually find something nice. And if not, well, just walk up Saai 2 to the soapies.

Red Point has declined sharply in the last year or two. And there's an especially nasty mama-san behind the bar who likes to insult farang in Thai, assuming they won't understand. Last time I told her exactly what I thought of that, and haven't been back since.

For consistent down-and-out sleaze, it's hard to beat My Friend You these days. But there's a reason they keep those rooms so dark.I agree, but they have now nice rooms (with) shower on the first floor. And you can afterwards sit outside and watch the movement, until you are ready for another go with another girl.

Nixonbd
07-14-11, 15:13
Dude, the ride is only 1 hour and 15 minutes and you need a beverage service? Pick up some water out of Family Mart in the airport for 7 baht and keep going. Usually a taxi from BKK airport to Pattaya is 1000 baht + 60 baht tolls. People will try to get you for 1300. Since I started speaking a little Thai I have been getting them for 900 all in by jokingly telling them I am Thai while showing my Thai drivers license, and saying the numbers in Thai.

I say: Pattaya tao rai khrap?

They say: One thousand three hundred baht.

I say: (raising voice) MAI DAI! (can not) Bad roi, na? (800, right?)

They say: Neung pun (1000).

I say: Gao roi thuk yang, pah! (900 everything, let's go)

They say: Pah. (let's go) and get out of the car to open the trunk.

From Pattaya to the airport it is 800 baht + 60 baht tolls. If you flight arrives between 7am & 5pm you can take the bus (http://www.belltravelservice.com/) that will take you right to your hotel for 200 baht. Likewise if your flight departs between 12pm and after (last bus from Pattaya at 5pm) you can use this option as well.Thanks, then I don't feel bad taking a limo and riding in a little comfort for 1200 baht to, and 1000 baht back to the airport. No way I'm going to take a bus after that flight.

Dad Fun 555
07-14-11, 18:51
I just finished my first trip to Pattaya after more than 5 years. I regularly get to Bangkok, but not Pattaya. My impression based on a couple of trips in 2004-2005 was I felt gawked at by eco tourists and thought that the bars were more about shows and spectacles catering to regular tourists and not really about hooking up with the ladies (mainly into Walking Street).

I don't know if I changed or Pattaya changed, but I can't articulate how much better Pattaya is now than my old memories of it. The whole thing is just tearing apart at the seams with beautiful ladies, and I couldn't believe how many ladies I found exactly like I like them. Although I remembered from before the bars being mainly about shows, this time when specifically seeking out that type of bar (such as when bar-hopping with a lady) , we couldn't even find such a bar (except Angelwitch). There are no longer hordes of giggling girls from Singapore in the bars just watching the shows. Also much fewer Japanese guys compared to Bangkok. The best bar (best quality ladies) was Baccara although unfortunately I got too drunk and made a fool of myself there and pretty much drove away all of the ladies, in that particular bar. I hope they have a high turnover rate and don't remember me when I come back.

In comparison to Pattaya, my long-time favorite city Bangkok now seems pretty dull. I can hardly even imagine going back there now. The funny thing is with the traffic congestion in Bangkok, it doesn't take that much longer to get from Suvarabhumi to Pattaya compared to Sukhumvit area of Bangkok.

Mr Enternational
07-14-11, 20:42
Thanks, then I don't feel bad taking a limo and riding in a little comfort for 1200 baht to, and 1000 baht back to the airport. No way I'm going to take a bus after that flight.Just remember when they say limo they are not talking in the western sense of the word. A limo would be considered a normal car (generally Volvo) that is not marked as a taxi. I don't blame you about the bus, going anyway, because you will be so excited to get there. I only take the bus to and from the airport when doing a flight to / from The Philippines or inside of Thailand. Otherwise, my flight to / from the USA is out of the bus operating hours anyway. Also, if your flight arrives an hour and a half or more before the bus is due to leave then I would just go ahead and do the taxi because again you will be excited to get there and won't feel like waiting around. Believe it or not though it takes the same amount of time whether by car or bus. I have timed it several times.

Redfield10
07-15-11, 03:00
Does anyone know if Areca Lodge is girl friendly? Is there a fee? Thanks. I've read conflicting report. Oh, and do you like it? I'm interested in something in the moderate range that has a pool.

Thanks

Allover
07-15-11, 05:07
Club Lisa girls also wear different outfits each day. I met this young lady a few weeks ago on "stewardess day".

Sprite13
07-15-11, 05:44
Guys,

I'm returning to LOS and will be heading straight to Patts on Saturday night. I'll land late (11pm) at the international airport in BKK what are my options at that time? And from my memory of earlier this year in LOS, taxi to and from Patts to BKK was 1000 Baht each way door to door. Now, I'll be arriving with a friend, is the 1k taxi charge from BKK to Patts per person or for both us?

BTW, if anyone wants to have a few drinks together while hunting from Sunday onward, let me know.

LittleBigMan
07-15-11, 05:54
Club Lisa girls also wear different outfits each day. I met this young lady a few weeks ago on "stewardess day".Personally speaking rating is a endless since as it has been mentioned that another person trash is another personal treasure? This debate like pricing is endless and somewhat useless but everyone has their rights to voice that opinion as long as on the otherside one is open to accept the opinion of others instead of trying to force fee it to others?

Allover: Your picture personally would suggest that this girl dispells the view that Soi 6, as a whole is going downhill?

LBM

Daddy07
07-15-11, 08:45
I'm shocked. Shocked!

It's so hard to imagine that this kind of thing is going on where I live.

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/07/15/new-pattay-beer-bar-australian-owner-charged-with-prostitution/

Harder still to imagine why the owner of the adjacent 'Billabong' beer bar was not also arrested, unless, of course, he made his monthly contribution to the BIB.

Keeniu
07-15-11, 12:15
Surprisingly prices for girls have not changed much at all.Those prices are correct, plus bar fine.

Beer bars are the cheapest fines, but 200 + 1 drink is the best I got so far.

I once got offered no bar fine, and no price with a fair looking 40 year old manager sort, but made excuses as I wanted YST.

But if you figure in the 25% depreciation of the USD, plus hotel, it is fair to say its really up by 35% or so, plus airfares and a bloody good grope and search by TSA goons.

BionicMan
07-15-11, 13:16
I'm shocked. Shocked!

It's so hard to imagine that this kind of thing is going on where I live.

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/07/15/new-pattay-beer-bar-australian-owner-charged-with-prostitution/

Harder still to imagine why the owner of the adjacent 'Billabong' beer bar was not also arrested, unless, of course, he made his monthly contribution to the BIB.This is really a shocking news? How these things can happen in Thailand? And in Pattaya? Looks there is a sex tourism ring going on in there, such a plain tourist location.

Maybe a misunderstanding?

LOL

Nixonbd
07-15-11, 13:38
I'm shocked. Shocked!

It's so hard to imagine that this kind of thing is going on where I live.

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/07/15/new-pattay-beer-bar-australian-owner-charged-with-prostitution/

Harder still to imagine why the owner of the adjacent 'Billabong' beer bar was not also arrested, unless, of course, he made his monthly contribution to the BIB.He must not have started making his "business tax payments" to the local authorities, ha, ha.

It's soooo funny that in Thailand, prostitution, pornography and gambling are all illegal.

Nixonbd
07-15-11, 13:40
Club Lisa girls also wear different outfits each day. I met this young lady a few weeks ago on "stewardess day".How big was her dick? Just kidding! Arrive in 7-weeks, can't wait to fly the friendly skies!

Nixonbd
07-15-11, 13:45
Just remember when they say limo they are not talking in the western sense of the word. A limo would be considered a normal car (generally Volvo) that is not marked as a taxi. I don't blame you about the bus, going anyway, because you will be so excited to get there. I only take the bus to and from the airport when doing a flight to / from The Philippines or inside of Thailand. Otherwise, my flight to / from the USA is out of the bus operating hours anyway. Also, if your flight arrives an hour and a half or more before the bus is due to leave then I would just go ahead and do the taxi because again you will be excited to get there and won't feel like waiting around. Believe it or not though it takes the same amount of time whether by car or bus. I have timed it several times.Gotcha Mr. Int'l and thanks for the input. They advertise new Honda 4-door sedans. Hope they got the sea water and radiation out of them, ha ha. I'm not one to take shortcuts on transportation. My flight gets in at 9:10 p. M, so I'll have plenty of time to get to the hotel, clean up and be on WS by 11:30 p. M, just as the going gets good. I'll do my negotiations there!

BionicMan
07-15-11, 14:30
He must not have started making his "business tax payments" to the local authorities, ha, ha.

It's soooo funny that in Thailand, prostitution, pornography and gambling are all illegal.In reality they are, but if the law is enforced a good 30% of the population will be jobless, the economy will suffer. And we shall get big blue balls!

Redfield10
07-15-11, 18:08
For staying in this area it helps if you drink 30 to 40 bottles of beer per day and are quite happy to listen to old foreigners telling the same old stories over and over again. Even better if you have a few old stories to cheer the old folks up. If your interested in sexy, young Thai girls then don't bother.Thanks for the useless info. How many times have you been to Pattaya? Once? The truth is that you can find any type of girl and any type of wingman in various parts of Pattaya. I already found my answer so forget it. Where do you stay, son? In a 600 baht rat hole above one of the "sexy, young Thai girls" go gos? .

Mr Enternational
07-15-11, 21:45
i'm shocked. shocked!

it's so hard to imagine that this kind of thing is going on where i live.

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2011/07/15/new-pattay-beer-bar-australian-owner-charged-with-prostitution/

harder still to imagine why the owner of the adjacent 'billabong' beer bar was not also arrested, unless, of course, he made his monthly contribution to the bib.how is it that the owner and his wife are charged with involvement in selling sexual services? it seems that unless it's a place like devil's den or [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s the bar has nothing to do with sex for money exchange between the customer and the girl. the bar is merely selling drinks and charging you a fee should you want the girl to leave work early with you. can't see what dumbass would go through the trouble of investing in a bar when he doesn't even have a work permit though.

Daddy07
07-16-11, 00:29
How is it that the owner and his wife are charged with involvement in selling sexual services?.It never ceases to amaze me how transparently corrupt the Thai authorities are.

The Land of Smiles has a lot good things to offer expats and tourists alike, but honesty and integrity among the Thai police is not one of them.

Pipe Layer99
07-16-11, 01:05
You are not staying. It is completely OK to walk into a bar and have a look. Then if you don't like what you see (its crowded, no other people, ugly girls, whatever) , walk out. Either there is a cover charge or this isn't. Period.

To each his own, but I don't buy anything if I'm not going to use it or in this case drink it.


.buy a reasonably cheap drink even if you don't drink it. I order water or a cheap beer and sometimes don't drink it just to get a good look at the place.

Canyon
07-16-11, 01:53
I've been going to Bangkok for over a dozen years now, but have never been to Pattaya. I plan to pay a visit in November and would like a hotel recommendation. I would like something that is right near the action and girl-friendly. However, I would prefer a 4-star or 5-star hotel. I noticed the Marriott and the Hilton on the Internet. Any comments on those? Any other recommendations on nice hotels that are girl-friendly and near the action? I would also prefer something on the ocean with a nice beach. Thank you.

Canyon

LittleBigMan
07-16-11, 02:37
The Dirty, The Sleazy and the Fat and Ugly.

Going is the wrong word. Gone is more accurate. It has gone down so much it's now off the scale.

Dirty = Yes

Sleazy = Yes.

Girls = Fat and Ugly.

Yes we all have opinions and if you like Dirty, Sleazy, Fat and Ugly then this could be the place. If you're at the other end of the scale then try the Walking Street.It must be tough visiting Pattaya with such a hypocritical and narrow view of things? It must be tough carrying such a large and heavy burden on your shoulder? It must be tough making a list and not using your favorite word " Quality " but it was no surprise " Walking Street " was used. I'm not a drinker but I have visit every area in Pattaya and have wonder even on Walking Street early morning and throughout the day and evening how people can sit for hours drinking. But I can't read minds or lips to know exactly what they are talking about even on Soi Buakhao but I guess you can?

I have walked the stretch of Beach Road many times and stood on Walking St. Watching the girls stroll down from Beach Road. Once through the arch they change their price structure but their appearance hasn't changed a bit. Although Walking St. Is nice there isn't one area in Pattaya that has a exlusive lock on quality nor a area that people don't sit and eat and talk story.

It must be lonely locking yourself in one area and not open to meeting people except the ones you pay. I wonder along with others on this board why you even bother to come to Pattaya with such a general and narrow view of life here. Maybe you're trying to convince everyone that you are better than everyone else and trying to be something you will never be otherwise you wouldn't be here on this board or in Pattaya with the rest of us. I suggest you try one of the islands here in Thailand since the narrow space might be more in line with your thinking.

LBM

LittleBigMan
07-16-11, 03:00
It never ceases to amaze me how transparently corrupt the Thai authorities are.

The Land of Smiles has a lot good things to offer expats and tourists alike, but honesty and integrity among the Thai police is not one of them.Daddy07,

That is pretty general Daddy? Did you get stopped again for not wearing your helmet? Or did you buy gas again at a independent shop only to find that it was water down? You got to get over it?

LBM

Redfield10
07-16-11, 03:03
It must be lonely locking yourself in one area and not open to meeting people except the ones you pay. I wonder along with others on this board why you even bother to come to Pattaya with such a general and narrow view of life here. Maybe you're trying to convince everyone that you are better than everyone else and trying to be something you will never be otherwise you wouldn't be here on this board or in Pattaya with the rest of us. I suggest you try one of the islands here in Thailand since the narrow space might be more in line with your thinking.

LBM[/QUOTE]The funny thing is, that sonny boy obviously doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. You can find beautiful Thai girls in a multitude of venues and the same beautiful Thai girl in a multitude of venues in a Year's time. You can also find all types of guys in a multitude of venues. You can find mult-millionaire guys in beer bars and on Soi 6 just as you can find guys of meager means in sonny boy's venues.

I just hope I never meet the snob.

LittleBigMan
07-16-11, 03:06
I've been going to Bangkok for over a dozen years now, but have never been to Pattaya. I plan to pay a visit in November and would like a hotel recommendation. I would like something that is right near the action and girl-friendly. However, I would prefer a 4-star or 5-star hotel. I noticed the Marriott and the Hilton on the Internet. Any comments on those? Any other recommendations on nice hotels that are girl-friendly and near the action? I would also prefer something on the ocean with a nice beach. Thank you.

CanyonFirst time, nothing actually on the Beach! Both the Marriort and Hilton is located on Beach Road but to get to the beach you have to cross the street. The Marriort is closer to Walking St. But the Hilton sit on top of Central Festival Shopping Center and has a better view of the beach if your room faces it. Can't go wrong with both of these choices.

LBM

Member #4698
07-16-11, 04:51
I've been going to Bangkok for over a dozen years now, but have never been to Pattaya. I plan to pay a visit in November and would like a hotel recommendation. I would like something that is right near the action and girl-friendly. However, I would prefer a 4-star or 5-star hotel. I noticed the Marriott and the Hilton on the Internet. Any comments on those? Any other recommendations on nice hotels that are girl-friendly and near the action? I would also prefer something on the ocean with a nice beach. Thank you.

CanyonThe Marriott Pattaya is GF and just a few blocks from Walking Street in one direction and a few blocks from Devil's Den in another. It is where I usually stay when in town, but at best I can only rate this hotel a 4. 25 star hotel. The main thing they have is a great pool / garden area to relax during the day, a very good breakfast buffet with lots of fresh fruits, juice, western and eastern dishes, and the private back entrance right off beach road that leads straight into the garden area which allows me to discreetly bring my girls back at night. I just say high to the security guard as I walk in, he smiles and salutes me. I prefer the rooms in the 4 story annex adjacent to the pool / garden area and the back entrance because they are so private and have offer up a great tropical ambiance. Bring your girl back to your room at night one time and you will appreciate this layout too. So I suggest that you request one of those rooms unless you really want an ocean view. The higher floor rooms in the main building have the ocean view, are newer and seem to be in better shape, but I still prefer the garden rooms best.

I never stayed at the Hilton. I don't think I ever will. The rooms are probably very good, but its location is not that close to Walking Street like the Marriott and I am not a fan of high rise beachfront hotels. If you plan to spend more time on Soi 6, 7, and 8 then maybe the Hilton might work out for you. I have a Marriott Chase credit card so that is another factor for me in favor of the Marriott, but I repeat the things I like best about this hotel are the pool / garden area, the private entrance off Beach Road, the location and the breakfast buffet.

Fon Tok
07-16-11, 05:03
It never ceases to amaze me how transparently corrupt the Thai authorities are. The Land of Smiles has a lot good things to offer expats and tourists alike, but honesty and integrity among the Thai police is not one of them.Somebody local, with connections, might be lusting over the Billabong Hotel site. With Soi LK Metro on the rise (seemingly) , the property values are going up. Making the current owners life difficult might just be part of a bigger plan to get one's hands on that prime corner? I've met the guy in question at the Billabong and he's just a guy trying to make a living out there with the rest of the farang rats.

Canyon
07-16-11, 05:09
Thank you for the information, Natty and Little Big Man. The Marriott sounds good. The other alternative I'm considering is the Penthouse. I know it's not as luxurious as the Marriott or the Hilton, but I'm curious about trying a very hedonistic place with mirrors and all. However, I'm concerned that it may not have high enough standards and be a little worn. Can someone who stayed at the Penthouse tell him about the condition, the quality of the place and if the rooms are as erotic as they indicate.

Canyon

LittleBigMan
07-16-11, 09:49
Nicely written LBM and I will consider your points.

OK – considered them.

With knowledge of a destination we should share information to people who have not yet been to that destination and are thinking about it. I think my comments are reasonably correct and backed up by quite a few other members. They talk about searching for quality because outside the Walking Street there is not much quality about. Very different from years ago when it was possible to find quality on every street corner. Years ago for every 10 girls you would see you might want to fuck 7. Now the tide has turned and for every 10 you might want to fuck 2. I am talking about quality. If you have no interest in quality then you might want to fuck them all.

For anyone not yet been to Pattaya you find the real quality in the Walking Street. To a lesser extent you can also find it in Soi 2, Soi 7 and Soi 8.

Apologies for not mentioning quality in my last post. Hope the overuse here makes up for it.

Whilst I'm on a question about Blizz the blow job bar. Anybody been there?You got a few post and nearly all of them is to criticize everyone on their choices and their rating as if your experience and opinion is the gold standard of all mongering and Walking street seems to be the center of mongering in the world for quality. I have seen posters come and go and I must say you got to be the most anal retentive individual I have read on this board for sometime. If you can get by the ME CHURCH MENTALITY and past all that B. S you are dishing out you might come to understand that although you consider others people standard and rating below your standard there are others who might consider your standard below theirs!

What you fail to understand! You don't share! You criticized! Read your own post and try to comprehend what you have written if you can soften that thick self center ego of yours! Just because you have spoken to a few people! You can't be that self-center to actually believe it to be reasonably correct just because a few member might have agreed with you! A few don't make a majority! If that is what you are going to use to back up your position LOL! I actually haven't seen anyone agree with you! Maybe this is just a way of stroking yourself.

With knowledge of a destination we should share information to people who have not yet been to that destination and are thinking about it. I think my comments are reasonably correct and back up by a few other members that there is NO QUALITY ON SOI 2, 7.8,. Doesn't your suggestion here contradict your thinking and experience you express above or are you already softening your position?

Maybe the reason your self proclaim stats are so bad with Pattaya is because you travel and visit with such a narrow view and come to a quick conclusion to things by just speaking to a few other members. If things are so bad now by the time you come back again it should be for every 10 girls you won't want to fuck any of them this way we won't again have to listen to your narrow negativity again. Oh last, if you just want a BlowJob go there but I will save you the time there is no quality there! I have first hand knowledge of this along with opinions from other members therefore my comments are reasonably correct.

LBM

LittleBigMan
07-16-11, 10:04
It must be lonely locking yourself in one area and not open to meeting people except the ones you pay. I wonder along with others on this board why you even bother to come to Pattaya with such a general and narrow view of life here. Maybe you're trying to convince everyone that you are better than everyone else and trying to be something you will never be otherwise you wouldn't be here on this board or in Pattaya with the rest of us. I suggest you try one of the islands here in Thailand since the narrow space might be more in line with your thinking.

LBMThe funny thing is, that sonny boy obviously doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. You can find beautiful Thai girls in a multitude of venues and the same beautiful Thai girl in a multitude of venues in a Year's time. You can also find all types of guys in a multitude of venues. You can find mult-millionaire guys in beer bars and on Soi 6 just as you can find guys of meager means in sonny boy's venues.

I just hope I never meet the snob.[/QUOTE]I fully understand your view and I think you are getting what I'm getting from his post of 29, there are many that only have 1 post and its content has more value than what he has written. Personally I don't know why I bother? Can you imagine meeting this guy and having to listen to what he has to say as being fact! This guy will stay stupid the rest of his life if he doesn't take the bag off his head! Hey maybe this guy will buy and open a beer bar if a few other members tell him that he can get quality girls to work for him?


LBM

Daddy07
07-16-11, 10:58
...now the tide has turned and for every 10 you might want to fuck 2. i am talking about quality. if you have no interest in quality then you might want to fuck them all...

whilst i'm on a question about blizz the blow job bar. anybody been there?actually, in my experience, 2 sexually attractive girls out of 10 is a pretty good ratio anywhere in the world, including pattaya, thailand. there are many go-go bars on walking street that can't boast that degree of quality. with 2 out of 10, any punter should be able to find a satisfactory fuck buddy without any problems.

regarding your question, i think you're referring to "bliss lounge" on third road, where the quality of girls is just as good as at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s for 100 baht less in cost.

Funfunfun432
07-16-11, 13:32
Hi,

Does anyone knows whether Sheraton Pattaya is a green hotel?

Thanks.

Nixonbd
07-16-11, 13:53
Thanks for the useless info. How many times have you been to Pattaya? Once? The truth is that you can find any type of girl and any type of wingman in various parts of Pattaya. I already found my answer so forget it. Where do you stay, son? In a 600 baht rat hole above one of the "sexy, young Thai girls" go gos? .Have to agree with you, Red. Having traveled all over Central America, Pattaya beats them all for me now! Sure, you can get an 8 or even 10 quality Columbiana, but it's become strictly a business proposition for them. The Thai girls are much more fun to be around and there are diamonds in the rough on WS who are worth keeping around a while. It depends on what you're looking for, and where you go to find it. For me, I'd much prefer a beer bar girl over a go-go girl. On the down side, once you've found a girl, it's difficult to go back to the same bar and expect to walk out with another.

LittleBigMan
07-16-11, 15:58
actually, in my experience. 2 sexually attractive girls out of 10 is a pretty good ratio anywhere in the world, including pattaya, thailand. there are many go-go bars on walking street that can't boast that degree of quality. with 2 out of 10, any punter should be able to find a satisfactory fuck buddy without any problems.

regarding your question, i think you're referring to "bliss lounge" on third road, where the quality of girls is just as good as at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s for 100 baht less in cost.daddy07,

third road, this hypocritical fool doesn't leave walking street!

lbm

Bunky
07-16-11, 18:39
http://www.pattayataxi.info/

As others have noted, reasonable stopovers are not a problem.

As for the type of car, I've had mixed results. Sometimes the driver shows up in a Camry (or whatever Toyota calls that model in Thailand). For a single passenger I find that car plenty large. But occasionally the driver shows up in a Corolla, which is not nearly as large. The trunk is also very small, which could be a problem if you have a lot of luggage. I see on the company's web site that different cars are available. So it the type of ride is important, I'm sure you could book what you want in advance.

Bunky

Pipe Layer99
07-17-11, 00:45
Daddy07,

That is pretty general Daddy? Did you get stopped again for not wearing your helmet? Or did you buy gas again at a independent shop only to find that it was water down? You got to get over it? LBM
Don't make fun of the helmet issue. I got stopped back in March (should have kept going as I had already passed them). Anyway, ended up paying about $12 US for not wearing my f-ing helmet. I blame this Euro dude. I think he was British. He mentioned to me earlier that day that the police give tickets for not wearing a helmet. That fucker jinxed me. Got to love the older (and wiser) traveler :-)) (smiley)

Pipe

LittleBigMan
07-17-11, 02:04
Don't make fun of the helmet issue. I got stopped back in March (should have kept going as I had already passed them). Anyway, ended up paying about $12 US for not wearing my f-ing helmet. I blame this Euro dude. I think he was British. He mentioned to me earlier that day that the police give tickets for not wearing a helmet. That fucker jinxed me. Got to love the older (and wiser) traveler.) (smiley)

PipeHey don't feel bad it happens to the best of us? You can't blame anyone but yourself for not wearing it. Like the Thais no reason to wear it except it is just too warm with one on and we like the breeze and the freedom.

Just last night going home after my 2 plus hour of massages since the action was shutdown here for the holiday. Small Soi, with lots of traffic why? A accident, a Toyota truck wanted to make a right turn into another Soi, he was 90% completed his turn into the Soi, I have seen it many times throughout the years on this Soi, motorcycles just will not give way although the vehicle by now has the right of way. This one kid without a helmet just wouldn't give way no matter what and how little room was left on the road and going too fast. He tried to go around the truck hit the hood and flew off the bike and guess what happen? He flew smack head into one of those cement light poles.

For you white folks even with a helmet I have seen them let go Thais without a helmet just to get to the Farang. We are a ATMS on two wheels, they need and want the money and will find something. It happens young or old?

LBM

Opebo
07-17-11, 12:44
It never ceases to amaze me how transparently corrupt the Thai authorities are.

The Land of Smiles has a lot good things to offer expats and tourists alike, but honesty and integrity among the Thai police is not one of them.It is precisely the corruption, laziness, and dishonesty of the police (as well as other parts of the power structure) to which we owe the relative freedom in this country! I dread returning to the Bad Place, where after midnight there are more honest, enthusiastic, and professional porcine gentlemen (and nowadays even worse - ladies!) roaming the streets in their cruisers than there are ordinary citizens. At least in Thailand they go home and go to bed at midnight.


For you white folks even with a helmet I have seen them let go Thais without a helmet just to get to the Farang. We are a ATMS on two wheels, they need and want the money and will find something. It happens young or old?Actually, oddly enough upcountry just the opposite has happened to me quite a number of times. Thais get stopped, I get waved on.

Fon Tok
07-17-11, 13:21
Hey don't feel bad it happens to the best of us? You can't blame anyone but yourself for not wearing it. Like the Thais no reason to wear it except it is just too warm with one on and we like the breeze and the freedom. --snip -- For you white folks even with a helmet I have seen them let go Thais without a helmet just to get to the Farang. We are a ATMS on two wheels, they need and want the money and will find something. It happens young or old? LBMYep, the BIB could give a flyin' frick about the safety of their own children.

LittleBigMan
07-18-11, 15:23
Sangkid,

A clarification! Your post #7971 with the quote of LBM, wasn't actually made by me! How it got twister is beyond me but the quote was made by Redfield. If you go back to post 7984, Redfield remarks were made by me and not him.

Based on my conversation with you it is obvious that I dealing with a person with limited comprehension level. I was drawn into a conversation with you on the Pattaya Hotel thread, shame on me, then I fell for it again, so shame on me once again! There will be no strike three so I will respond and you can have the final say so let me first start by saying the more I hear from you the more you seem to stick your foot in your month but I guess by now your mouth is quite large?

You suggested that you have run into people that have read ISG and other forum like it taken information from posters and booked accordingly have been disappointed and had their holiday ruined SHOULD THEY BLAME THEMSELVES? If you don't know by now along with others that ISG and others forums are just opinions from poster their experiences might not be dupicated since everyone isn't the same and have different likes and dislikes. Even a person shopping for an IPOD on the Internet can get the specific and description on the item but once order and the person gets iand operates it might not like the item. These legitimate sales have a satisfaction return policy but ISG and other site as such are a F-KING SEX SITE! There is no return policy common sense would dictate its a buyer beware! So to answer your question as to whether the individual should blame themselves I say F-KING YES! Since if you read through the many threads in ISG you will see a common discussions on opinions to agree to disagree. If the people you have spoken or run into feel the information was not accurate and now blame the forums because they didn't get the exact same experience they are as stupid as you and deserves that their holiday has been ruined. I say stay home jackoff, you don't deserve to travel and be in the monger club.

You say you are responsible and giving others the exact information on what Pattaya has become which is what the whole discussion has become between you and me and although you have the right you go beyond providing your opinion you are actually stating this to be fact based on a " few you have spoken or run into ". State your opinion and don't criticize others for going to Soi 6, having the experience of their life and sharing it on the board to have you turn around and inject that their experience had no quality and that the pussy smell? Did you ever think for a minute maybe the guy like stinking pussy just like you like to have quality on Walking Street. By the way I was on Soi 8, last night with another poster and I can tell you it is no different than Soi 6, There was fat, ugly, quality and LB'S and I'm sure smelling pussy too? As for Walking Street, we also saw a bar across from Baccara before we went in and I can tell you there was fat, ugly, quality inside and once again I'm sure someone pussy smell.

See you don't get it? When in Thailand get yourself some Tamarine and start chewing you might be able to turn the tide of your dementia at your age. No one person has all the answer and no one area has a lock on quality. Enjoy your quality and let others enjoy their cheap and smelly pussy. State your opinion good or bad but quit force feeding me and others that there is only quality pussy on Walking St. along with your self madeup stats that Pattaya is fallling apart based on a few meetings. We all like quality women but th are old f-ks around that like fat, old and stinky pussy. Some even goes as far as venturing to the bush! just let us enjoy our fun and we will let you enjoy your quality.

If you are serious about the bar give the name we like to do a secret review on it? And maybe help with your business by sitting hours throughout the day and night sitting and talking about our past just make sure you have quality, old, fat, especially smelly and sticky pussy. I hope this one time you are open to what is being said and not just defending and responding because of your inflated ego. I personally hear your about quality! And there isn't one person that doesn't enjoy it but not everyone likes having a trophy when we walk with a cane so we go for cheap fat, smelly pussy with quality GFE, since we are unable to keep up with the quality?

Enjoy your quality but your time is up Sonny Boy!

LBM

Rjsss212
07-18-11, 16:14
Sangkid,

Enjoy your quality but your time is up Sonny Boy!

LBMSeems to have devolved into an obsession. Start a new thread and spare us.

Suntangh R
07-18-11, 16:36
Sangkid,

A clarification! Your post #7971 with the quote of LBM, wasn't actually made by me! How it got twister is beyond me but the quote was made by Redfield. If you go back to post 7984, Redfield remarks were made by me and not him.

Enjoy your quality but your time is up Sonny Boy!

LBMHey KID,

Duck!

Monopoly
07-18-11, 19:55
Guys,

I'm planning on visiting Pattaya in October 2011. I last visited 5 years ago and prices were around 1000-1500 for LT. Can anyone advise on what the prices and quality is like these days? I realise prices are up, the same hotel I used is even up by 35.

Thanks!Beer-bars BG's are 500 ST and 1000 LT Quality is hit or miss (Unfortunately, mostly miss)

Pipe Layer99
07-19-11, 05:54
Hey don't feel bad it happens to the best of us? You can't blame anyone but yourself for not wearing it. Like the Thais no reason to wear it except it is just too warm with one on and we like the breeze and the freedom.LBMI blame that guy who jinxed me. If he hadn't said anything it would not have happened. It's called superstition.

Fuckers out to make a buck (off of us tourists). It's not enough that we go there and shell out some bucks (on food, drinks, and WOMEN) to help out their economy.

Homestreet
07-19-11, 21:47
I am visiting Thailand for the first time in November for about 12 days. I need some references on a good Hotel.

In Pattaya that is clean with nice views if all possible and that allow me to have overnight guests without a surcharge.

Thanks!

Kitie Carson
07-19-11, 22:23
I am visiting Thailand for the first time in November for about 12 days. I need some references on a good Hotel.

In Pattaya that is clean with nice views if all possible and that allow me to have overnight guests without a surcharge.

Thanks!As in the BKK forum post you did. Wrong thread. There is a Pattaya Hotel thread. Take a look around at the whole site. Alot of your questions are already answered.

Gin And Tonic
07-20-11, 03:45
What was it like when the Red Guys were last in charge?

Zip Head
07-20-11, 05:53
I am visiting Thailand for the first time in November for about 12 days. I need some references on a good Hotel.

In Pattaya that is clean with nice views if all possible and that allow me to have overnight guests without a surcharge.

Thanks!Try the Dynasty Hotel.

LittleBigMan
07-20-11, 09:03
Seems to have devolved into an obsession. Start a new thread and spare us.Rjsss212,

In all due respect I disagree whether you are joking or not?

I remember when I came to this board in 2003, there were maybe a half dozen threads. Throughout the years this board has now grown to over 51 threads and that includes the achives which are useful but so many have been added which were unnecessary because of of a few heavy handed suggestions to Jackson to add or split threads because individuals were just too impatient to hear opinions or even disagreements. Jackson being a busy man has improve the software for his site but hasn't deleted the many useless thread that currently exist with outdated posting dates that doesn't reflect recent postings. A good example is " Opinions " this still show a posting date of 2009 when posting has been made in 2011.

In 2003, when I came to this board I didn't mind RTFF throughout the limited threads to find my information this in my opinion made me do my homework along with me reading recommendations and getting opinions good or bad so I can get both perpective. Today! As soon as you come to Thailand, you see 51 threads and human nature has shown me who the hell wants to RTFF 51 Threads so people don't read and they take the easy route instead of RTFF. As recently posting (nothing personal) someone ask a question regarding a hotel stay outside of the specific thread. This could have lead to Singkid opinion that some have taken information from forums like this and had their holiday ruined because all they got was the good opinions. Its like someone opening a Penthouse magazines and only looking at the pictures and not reading any of the good stories within the magazine.

As long as people aren't willing to be patient and allow for the discussion to run it course and suggestion of more and more threads be created and splitted you will have more useless thread than useful ones.

LBM

Sunlover2
07-20-11, 10:21
As long as people aren't willing to be patient and allow for the discussion to run it course and suggestion of more and more threads be created and splitted you will have more useless thread than useful ones.When I spot consistent nonsense from a poster I ignore them. Literally. There is an ignore function on ISG. You won't even see their posts. I have had SK on ignore for weeks now. Don't wait. Your quality of life will skyrocket!

SunLover

Amjeck
07-20-11, 11:37
Actually, oddly enough upcountry just the opposite has happened to me quite a number of times. Thais get stopped, I get waved on.Probably the cop doesn't want to mess with the language barrier. In Pattaya cops can speak some English.

Hobbyist2
07-20-11, 14:06
Rjsss212,

In all due respect I disagree whether you are joking or not?

I remember when I came to this board in 2003, there were maybe a half dozen threads. Throughout the years this board has now grown to over 51 threads and that includes the achives which are useful but so many have been added which were unnecessary because of of a few heavy handed suggestions to Jackson to add or split threads because individuals were just too impatient to hear opinions or even disagreements. Jackson being a busy man has improve the software for his site but hasn't deleted the many useless thread that currently exist with outdated posting dates that doesn't reflect recent postings. A good example is " Opinions " this still show a posting date of 2009 when posting has been made in 2011.

In 2003, when I came to this board I didn't mind RTFF throughout the limited threads to find my information this in my opinion made me do my homework along with me reading recommendations and getting opinions good or bad so I can get both perpective. Today! As soon as you come to Thailand, you see 51 threads and human nature has shown me who the hell wants to RTFF 51 Threads so people don't read and they take the easy route instead of RTFF. As recently posting (nothing personal) someone ask a question regarding a hotel stay outside of the specific thread. This could have lead to Singkid opinion that some have taken information from forums like this and had their holiday ruined because all they got was the good opinions. Its like someone opening a Penthouse magazines and only looking at the pictures and not reading any of the good stories within the magazine.

As long as people aren't willing to be patient and allow for the discussion to run it course and suggestion of more and more threads be created and splitted you will have more useless thread than useful ones.

LBMWith all do respect, I disagree with you. I agree with Rjsss212 and Sunlover2.

LittleBigMan
07-21-11, 01:54
With all do respect, I disagree with you. I agree with Rjsss212 and Sunlover2.That's okay to disagree with me. But lets hear some reasons as to why? Although I have a disagreement with SK. I don't use the Ignore buttom on him or anyone they have a right to voice and so do I.

LBM

Hobbyist2
07-21-11, 03:14
That's okay to disagree with me. But lets hear some reasons as to why? Although I have a disagreement with SK. I don't use the Ignore buttom on him or anyone they have a right to voice and so do I.

LBMLBM,

The fact that I said I agree with the two other posters gives you the reasons. I agreed with what they said, so I didn't feel the need to be redundant and I don't like to type. However, due to SK's continual posting with no meaningful information, I think that some of us have heard enough from him. When you respond to him it just encourages him to continue the same diatribe of useless chatter. How many times do we need to hear that he thinks Pattaya is F-upped and most of the women are ugly? If he has a post that offered and useful info, I haven't seen it. Of course, at this point, I won't be looking for it either. I don't have any issues with you. I just wish you wouldn't encourage the boy. However, if you choose to respond to him then obviously that is your choice. I will just have more to scroll past.

MauiDude
07-21-11, 03:49
Try the Dynasty Hotel.I did like the dynasty until they started to hassle me about girls I bring to my room.

Including asking for 500 baht if they were not registered. I always book my room for two but

Some of the hotels still try to screw you and ask for I'd or ask for extra money.

Dynasty has been both good and bad.

Sometimes they really mess with me about any and all girls. And sometimes I have a few and they leave me alone.

Penthouse is a good hotel if you want a lot of extras in your room. Dancing pole. And some rooms have a fuck chair hanging from the ceiling. Can be loud as there is a bar downstairs. Kitten? Something like that. The girls seem to money hungry for me.

There are nice hotels everywhere. I like soi 13 as its in the middle and fairly quiet. Down the street from dynasty as I try not to stay there anymore.

I think a good one is shady spring hotel? Not sure of name. Across from massage parlor and tailor several buildings from dynasty.

No hassle ever even when I bring five girls to my room.

LittleBigMan
07-21-11, 07:13
LBM,

The fact that I said I agree with the two other posters gives you the reasons. I agreed with what they said, so I didn't feel the need to be redundant and I don't like to type. However, due to SK's continual posting with no meaningful information, I think that some of us have heard enough from him. When you respond to him it just encourages him to continue the same diatribe of useless chatter. How many times do we need to hear that he thinks Pattaya is F-upped and most of the women are ugly? If he has a post that offered and useful info, I haven't seen it. Of course, at this point, I won't be looking for it either. I don't have any issues with you. I just wish you wouldn't encourage the boy. However, if you choose to respond to him then obviously that is your choice. I will just have more to scroll past.Hobbyist2,

Now that is more than reasonable to me! That wasn't too hard was it to get off topic and say what needed to be said and we didn't have to start a new thread. Yes that is my choice and yours to scroll but until I spoke up he continued as you said and in my opinion he would have continue even now. I kept silent for over two weeks but kept up with the board while I was in the States finally when I return I said my peace and he reduced his post regarding his particular opinion about Pattaya. Hopefully you will have less to scroll now.

Signing out on this topic! LBM

Redfield10
07-22-11, 04:18
I did like the dynasty until they started to hassle me about girls I bring to my room.

Including asking for 500 baht if they were not registered. I always book my room for two but

Some of the hotels still try to screw you and ask for I'd or ask for extra money.

Dynasty has been both good and bad.

Sometimes they really mess with me about any and all girls. And sometimes I have a few and they leave me alone.Huh? Dynasty isn't 100% girl friendly? I've stayed there many times and never, never had a problem. Sure, they ask for an I'd, but that's a good thing.

Pipe Layer99
07-22-11, 05:55
LBM,

The fact that I said I agree with the two other posters gives you the reasons. I agreed with what they said, so I didn't feel the need to be redundant and I don't like to type. However, due to SK's continual posting with no meaningful information, I think that some of us have heard enough from him. When you respond to him it just encourages him to continue the same diatribe of useless chatter. How many times do we need to hear that he thinks Pattaya is F-upped and most of the women are ugly? If he has a post that offered and useful info, I haven't seen it. Of course, at this point, I won't be looking for it either. I don't have any issues with you. I just wish you wouldn't encourage the boy. However, if you choose to respond to him then obviously that is your choice. I will just have more to scroll past.I like the way you think.

I agree with Hobbyist, Rjsss212 and Sunlover2.

To Hobbyist. Thanks for your post.

Maybe these guy will get over the banter and start using the PM function. If not, we all have more scrolling to do. Good thing it works well.

Pipe

LittleBigMan
07-22-11, 10:07
I like the way you think.

I agree with Hobbyist, Rjsss212 and Sunlover2.

To Hobbyist. Thanks for your post.

Maybe these guy will get over the banter and start using the PM function. If not, we all have more scrolling to do. Good thing it works well.

PipePipe Layer99,

When you look at my post after Hobbyist responded with his reasons one would hope that after I signed off the subject would have died. Thereafter I logged on and saw and read the response it was clear to me in this particular situation my belief or theory was incorrect! Therefore in this situation I would like to apologized to all! Particularly Rjsss212 and Sunlover2 for encouraging this particular subject they were correct in their assessment regarding this individual.

Now lets get to you! If you truly believe what you had written in agreement with Hobbyist then you wouldn't have responded! Instead all you did was continue to feed the topic and the monkey going against what you agree too!

Less let this topic die for once and for all and I certainly will limit my exchanges with individuals, and consider using the Ignore button as suggested! Please everyone my sincere apologise and DON'T RESPOND AGAIN TO THIS TOPIC!

LBM

Rjsss212
07-22-11, 15:50
Pipe Layer99,

Less let this topic die for once and for all and I certainly will limit my exchanges with individuals, and consider using the Ignore button as suggested! Please everyone my sincere apologise and DON'T RESPOND AGAIN TO THIS TOPIC!

LBMNo sweat. Your a good man and an asset to the board. No apologies necessary...

Suntangh R
07-22-11, 16:53
No sweat. Your a good man and an asset to the board. No apologies necessary.Agreed!

Agreed! Yu guys are okay.

Ira Johnson
07-22-11, 17:06
Hey why'all;

I am very excited to visit Pattaya from August 11 to 17th. If anyone wants to hang out and stomp around together, holler.

First time I visited I stayed at the Queen Vic on Soi 6 and while it was nice, it was too much in the thick of things. Any suggestions on centrally-located, GF, inexpensive places? Where do you go back to again and again?

Also, I'm having a little success with DIA setting up some freebie visits. I am considering using ThaiLoveLinks as well. Recommendations (of the sites and / or handles of friendly girls from the sites)?

Finally I was planning on bringing a few trinkets over from Shanghai (ma 'hometown') to gift to some gals. Any suggestions, or is this even a good idea?

Ira Johnson

Pipe Layer99
07-22-11, 19:58
Glad we are back to the discussions about women and p-ssy in Pattaya. If anyone (lmb included) wants to discuss or make a statement about anything with me directly, use the PM function versus posting on the main board (that just clogs it).

I for one enjoy reading the 'adventures' of the fellas that visit Thailand (both good and not so good. We all have different tastes, likes, and dislikes. Keep the posts about the scene going. Everyone benefits this way.

I will be making another trip this month and plan on enjoying it to the max. First trip was good, second trip was better, so I'm planning on even more FUN this time! I will definitely hit walking street, the clubs, and the mall (met two hot civilians [non-pro] on the last trip. I will also check out more of the outdoor bars. Found two great ones just by checking out new areas.

Canyon
07-23-11, 07:15
I tried posting in the hotel section, but got no response. Has anyone ever stayed at the Sheraton Pattaya. Is it guest-friendly? How far is it from the action? What's it like? Thank you for your response.

Monkey1818
07-23-11, 09:08
Hey why'all;

I am very excited to visit Pattaya from August 11 to 17th. If anyone wants to hang out and stomp around together, holler.

First time I visited I stayed at the Queen Vic on Soi 6 and while it was nice, it was too much in the thick of things. Any suggestions on centrally-located, GF, inexpensive places? Where do you go back to again and again?

Also, I'm having a little success with DIA setting up some freebie visits. I am considering using ThaiLoveLinks as well. Recommendations (of the sites and / or handles of friendly girls from the sites)?

Finally I was planning on bringing a few trinkets over from Shanghai (ma 'hometown') to gift to some gals. Any suggestions, or is this even a good idea?

Ira JohnsonCheck out April Suites. I often stay at August Suites. Send me PM. I can help you out with any other questions you may have.

Monkey1818
07-23-11, 09:10
I tried posting in the hotel section, but got no response. Has anyone ever stayed at the Sheraton Pattaya. Is it guest-friendly? How far is it from the action? What's it like? Thank you for your response.Great Beach. But far from Action. And I believe there is joiner fee for that hotel.

Mr Enternational
07-23-11, 10:22
Maybe Sangkid is on to something. I left X Zone last night about 1 after hanging with Tomjackin for a few hours. I was on my way home when I spotted another friend who lives here so I hung out with him for a while in front of Lucifer. I wasn't really looking for someone who I would want to sleep in late with because I was going to have to pick my school teacher up from Toyota at an early 9:30am when she dropped her car to be serviced. Seeing that I had been up since 7am I decided that I had enough and headed towards the Penthouse to pick up my motorbike. I got maybe 100 feet from Lucifer when I spotted someone with potential. She actually looked like a Black American actress (can't remember the name - just the face). She asked me where I was going. I said home. She said I want to come with you. I said okay. She said how much you give me? I said how much you want? She said 1,000. I repeated in a "be serious with me" manner, how much you want? She said 500! Let's go.

We had a great session last night (attempted anal and finished up with CIM) falling asleep after 5. I woke up at 8:30 and told her she could go. We were both paralyzed though. Then I woke up again at 9:15 and told her to get up. She was attempting to get in another session, but I knew my school teacher would have to be serviced after I picked her up so I declined. When she finished showering I had 1,000 baht waiting for her on my desk. She was ecstatic. Why 1,000 when we agreed on 500? Well because 1. 1,000 is the usual rate I give for LT and 2. I didn't have any change!

Sumart
07-23-11, 14:57
Will arrive Thursday or Friday in Pattaya. Anyone around to hit the venueses and to share information?

Cuba Tourist
07-24-11, 06:16
I returned after a year away to find the place ruined! The police are chasing away all young (under 20 officially and all newbies unofficially) women from Beach Road. All that is left are older (over 24) and more hard core putas. Tragic and harbinger of things to come. The freelancers were far and away the prettiest, younger (18-21) women in the area and now no more. The bars also only have 20 or 21 and up. All seem to be hard core and been around a long time! I have found nothing on the internet any where about this. Women on Beach Road tell me this started last year October and has gotten stricter under the new government, led by a woman. Any suggestions on where to find nice, not too experienced. 18-20 year olds? One woman told me under 20 was illegal in Thailand, but I cannot believe they changed the age of consent. It seems to be a local ordinance of some kind.

Rocksoff
07-24-11, 13:09
Walking down soi 6 spotted a tiny spinner in street clothes in front of a bar, chatting with the other girls. Our gazes locked, mutual understanding followed, and within 30 seconds we were heading upstairs. After one of the most abandoned fucks I can remember, we played the age guessing game and I guessed she was 21. She turned out to be 23 but rightly pointed out that her tits look 17. She told me that she had a sugar daddy (her term) for more than a year, who kept her on retainer and saw her very occasionally. She fired him two months ago because he was butterfly. (I'm just telling her story.) I asked if she loved him and she said never. Liked? No, never liked or loved, because he was 55 and serious, and that's what she told him when he asked if he could pay for her time. Then her mother phoned and she had a long conversation, during which she got my cock hard and ended up standing over me masturbating herself while talking to her mother on the phone. One of the things she told her mother is that some guy took her for two days and gave her 40, 000 baht. Another guy is flying her over to Hong Kong for a couple of days, she showed me the ticket. But for 700 baht she gave me an absolutely fantastic ride, from the shower to the dressing table to the bed, etc. I'm sure the rich guys also feel she's worth every cent. Except perhaps for the sugar daddy. Someone eventually shouted that they need the room. We were up there a long time.

She was a highlight, but the shorthaired former Tesco Lotus shopgirl who now works at Bliss Lounge definitely deserves an honorable mention for not complaining about the drool down the front of her uniform. As does the half-Chinese rocker girl with Lennon sunglasses and tattoos of Sister Morphine and medusa who won me over, to my surprise, to take her upstairs for 800 baht all in. Now I think I'm in love with her.

Amjeck
07-24-11, 13:46
Any suggestions on where to find nice, not too experienced. 18-20 year olds?Hehe, probably in the rooms of expats getting trained. The demand for those types has soared in recent years. You're not the only one searching!

Incel
07-24-11, 17:24
Hehe, probably in the rooms of expats getting trained. The demand for those types has soared in recent years. You're not the only one searching!Ahh. I know where to get them!

Sadly I won't tell.

I found 2 girls with a great lack of experience this trip, one on soi 6 who was 18 and I was her second customer and second dick inside her. Yes no joke.

She wanted to learn everything, she really didn't know anything. The body was ofcourse amazing and looks. Ohmygod!

Good she had a nice guy like me.

The second was 25, but I was her first customer. She was horryfied to have sex with a farang, but it was ok after.

Ok, I tell you. She work on the bar on the right of LK rennisance on Soi diana.

BionicMan
07-24-11, 23:36
Ahh. I know where to get them!

Sadly I won't tell.

I found 2 girls with a great lack of experience this trip, one on soi 6 who was 18 and I was her second customer and second dick inside her. Yes no joke.

She wanted to learn everything, she really didn't know anything. The body was ofcourse amazing and looks. Ohmygod!

Good she had a nice guy like me. The second was 25, but I was her first customer. She was horryfied to have sex with a farang, but it was ok after.

Ok, I tell you. She work on the bar on the right of LK rennisance on Soi diana.And how much did you pay for that unique experience (s)?

Rocksoff
07-25-11, 05:48
And how much did you pay for that unique experience (s)?For the one in soi 6, 700 baht obviously, and for the one in Soi Diana, I'd guess about 1000. And 300 to the bar in each case. Correct Incel?

Pipe Layer99
07-25-11, 09:23
Ahh. I know where to get them!.Ok, I tell you. She work on the bar on the right of LK rennisance on Soi diana.I believe the bar is to the left of the Hotel (as you are facing it).

To the right is 7-11, a massgage parlor and a female clothes shop.).

I like that area with all the girls running up and down the street. Plus there are a lot of Go-Gos and bars in the LK Metro area.

Sangkid
07-25-11, 09:44
Couple of funny stories (for me) that I hope will not offend anyone too much.

1. Yesterday at one in the afternoon I leave my hotel room and walk to the elevator. I'm on the tenth floor of a very expensive hotel quite near to Soi 8. I don't usually stay here but a friend is in town and he as points that qualify him for a free room. Also waiting for the elevator is a girl. She is extremely over weight and her face condition is very poor. I'm reluctant to get in the elevator with her in case it stops on any other floors and other customers think she is with me. But I do and she asks me where I'm going and I tell her and ask her where she is going. She says to work. I asked her where she works and of course she replied Soi (you know where just a couple of block away). I find it very strange that someone with money, I guess he had money staying in this particular hotel, would bar fine a girl looking like this long time even with beer goggles. She was the type you wake up with your arm round and you have to get out quick without disturbing her even if it means cutting your own arm off. Really that bad. She would probably be on the phone to all her ugly mates up country and telling them to come to Pattaya where farangs don't care what they look like.

2. Second one. Later that day I walked past a bar advertising the following:

Draft Beer.

Free Pool.

Live Sports.

25 Sexy Girls.

4 Dogs.

I guess you can guess my thoughts.

Bliss Lounge.

As I said I have a friend in town and he wanted to try the Bliss Lounge. We found it up on the third road nearly opposite X-Zyte. The girls that joined us immediately told us this was a blow job bar and encouraged us to go upstairs very quickly. Cost 600 Baht to go up. The girl said she had 300 and the bar 300. The room smelt very nice and looked very clean. She told me to get undressed and sit in a black comfortable arm chair. She then did the blow job fully clothed. She was quite pretty and I had the urge to fuck her. I asked and she said she had her period. If you have an itch and just need a blow job then I recommend this place. For me I need a bit more interaction rather than just sitting there watching. I tipped her 500 Baht. I will go back but make sure in advance about the fuck. My mate had interaction and fucked his girl. He tipped her 1, 000 Baht.

Incel
07-25-11, 18:43
For the one in soi 6, 700 baht obviously, and for the one in Soi Diana, I'd guess about 1000. And 300 to the bar in each case. Correct Incel?I paid more than that. I am not a poor guy so I give the money to who need and give me a nice experience.

Popper1
07-26-11, 18:27
am in town this trip for only just over a week. very short trip. sucks. every day, extremely busy. was not going to report, but figured now choice of contributing to this forum or watching internet porn.

delta airlines. from tokyo. flight about 3/4ths empty. i had four seats to myself. watched hall pass. very good movie and some other movie which was ok. of those few on the flight, number of single men were very few. and of those, think i and one other were american. the other yank weighed over 300 pounds. all other sm were european (aka: you're-a-[CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)-in).

landed. zipped through immigration. my 1000 baht taxi was gate 3 showing paper with name popper on it. cool. took the "limo" (the black volvo) to pattaya. all good. took a vit c (apalis) in taxi cause wanted to start this trip with a bang. it was just there, loose, bottom of the bag. was the tablet more than five years old? no idea. did it still work? one way to find out. bit off half and put under my tongue to dissolve. arrived and hotel wanted 600 baht. said i stayed here before for 500. they claimed to raise the price. turned to leave. just then the maid saw me, gave me kiss, and i got my usual rate. that she glad to see me could have been due to my incredibly good looks, awesome personality, or the fact that last trip tipped her 500 baht.

walked outside and immediately saw two gals. ok. spoke to one. 500 st? agreed. she asked "how long is short time?" popper: "five rounds of boom boom." she looked at me in horror, walked away. popper: "i joking, i joking". she still left. ok. cried my eyes out and three seconds later found another gal. she older. nice large titties too, which was good. wanted to start this trip with a mature gal who can take a good pounding. we discussed: 500 st. 1000 lt. she wanted lt. ok. she married to english guy, who left her and now in cambodia. she claimed to own a farang restaurant in jontien. econ bad and restaurant now no longer. real nice. nice as can be. with the help of my vit c, we had four rounds that night. twice came on her face, which she took like a champ as she licked little popper and balls. guess the vit c tab still good. cool. gave her 1200 morning. absolute sweetie. would have taken a picture, but my camera phone not working. good grief.

next morning checked. forgot my vitamins and my fake crocs. idiot! crocs essential esp during the rainy season. shopped 1500 for vitamins. 25o b for another fake crocs. from herein i will just leave the crocs in my suitcase, so will never forget them when traveling. also got the fake polo gym bag for 340 baht and 280 baht fanny pack. thailand is the place for this crap. when i was here last march i gave my jeweler a 1880s watch which i got on ebay. it needed a custom part (balance) but according to my jeweler the person up bkk who makes custom watch parts died."no one in thailand can make watch parts any more for watches so old." oh well.

as is my deep seated religious belief that bar fines and lady drinks are for noobs and fools, walked about and quickly found gal. she 35 and huge tits. on walking street not far from lucifers. apparently i had her before, but completely forgot. these gals have incredible memories. she remembered my hotel room and about when we were together (last march). she sucked, swallowed."you did not boom boom me, just like before." ummmmmm ok. would have taken her picture, but again my sony erricson phone camera out for some strange reason. paid her 600 and out the door she went.

morning had my usual 3 eggs and coffee. went to big c to figure out what was wrong with my damn sony cell. apparently the m2 memory card went bad. how is that possible? those m2s are like the most expensive memory card you can buy. anyway, paid 700 baht for another 2 gb card. what a waste. tonight went to pattaya garden. yea, still same old lame 70s and 80s music sh-t. had their maryland chicken and some ice tea for total 250 baht. left them 300 cause food not bad. while there, got this gal, edge of the bar. she a true beauty. claims to be in pattaya for only 2 months and her first time ever in pattaya garden (riiiggghhhtttt). had a great sense of humor. now that the sony operational took picts. she very exotic. she could have been on that show with tyra banks with all those female models (forgot the name). she wanted 1000 st. countered with 700 and quickly agreed. she a complete riot, and more importantly, huge titties. from issan. does not work in bar, and does not want to. who knows. damn she exotic looking. picture does her no justice at all. 26 years old, no kids, no silicon. had to eat her, and daty a long time. is that dangerous? anyway, smelled like roses. then she on top which my favorite position and we were at it lonnnnggggg time. paid her, and out the door she went.

now going to sleep. damn pattaya sucks. i hate it here.

-popper

Opebo
07-27-11, 04:29
I returned after a year away to find the place ruined! The police are chasing away all young (under 20 officially and all newbies unofficially) women from Beach Road. All that is left are older (over 24) and more hard core putas. Tragic and harbinger of things to come. The freelancers were far and away the prettiest, younger (18-21) women in the area and now no more. The bars also only have 20 or 21 and up. All seem to be hard core and been around a long time! I have found nothing on the internet any where about this. Women on Beach Road tell me this started last year October and has gotten stricter under the new government, led by a woman. Any suggestions on where to find nice, not too experienced. 18-20 year olds? One woman told me under 20 was illegal in Thailand, but I cannot believe they changed the age of consent. It seems to be a local ordinance of some kind.I think they refer to the fact that under 20 is not allowed to work in any 'immoral' venue such as a bar or nightclub, or as a 'hostess'. And I'm sure they can round up those under 20 who are attempting to freelance. Just as I predicted the new government will be ending our fun soon enough. The last few years were just a slight reprieve anyway, and in any case never fully returned to the glory days.

But its definitely true. One hardly ever sees a new or young face on the Beach Road, just as you say. I think I have reported something like this over the last year. Its hardly worth visiting Pattaya anymore, and I can tell you the rest of Thailand is no picnic either. However, we have no choice but to still try to make the best of it, as every other country is even worse.

BionicMan
07-27-11, 08:19
I think they refer to the fact that under 20 is not allowed to work in any 'immoral' venue such as a bar or nightclub, or as a 'hostess'. And I'm sure they can round up those under 20 who are attempting to freelance.But its definitely true. One hardly ever sees a new or young face on the Beach Road, just as you say. I think I have reported something like this over the last year. Its hardly worth visiting Pattaya anymore, and I can tell you the rest of Thailand is no picnic either. However, we have no choice but to still try to make the best of it, as every other country is even worse.If I am not wrong in Thailand a girl cannot go to a disco or club if she is below 20 (also as a guest) , go imagine working there. At least from a formal point of view.

This might not be related to legal age or what.

I recall the daughter of a friend sneaking through a legitimate club (Mango in Samui) as she was just over 19.

This was at least 4 years ago, so nothing to do with the colours in charge of the country.

Do not know what this is related to (alcohol or what)

On the last paragraph, it might well be that with a woman as PM she might be willing to protect women and the country image at the same time.

So hevily reducing some possibilities of fun.

The tourist trend is getting more and more family and group oriented, so the mongerers will represent a thinner and thinner slice of the general and legitimate tourist business (hotel, restaurant, transport etc)

Certainly it can affectd is the edge and borderline (from a general POV) business around go-go bars and all what is around

Amjeck
07-27-11, 10:37
But its definitely true. One hardly ever sees a new or young face on the Beach Road, just as you say. I think I have reported something like this over the last year. Its hardly worth visiting Pattaya anymore, and I can tell you the rest of Thailand is no picnic either. However, we have no choice but to still try to make the best of it, as every other country is even worse.It depends on taste. Some people are content with what Pattaya is offering now and all the power to them.

There is no question, however, that things have changed in Pattaya, and I agree with you Opebo that Pattaya is hardly worth visiting anymore. Maybe just for a few days once in awhile.

Nixonbd
07-27-11, 13:36
Am in town this trip for only just over a week. Very short trip. Sucks. Every day, extremely busy. Was not going to report, but figured now choice of contributing to this forum or watching Internet porn.

Now going to sleep. Damn Pattaya sucks. I hate it here.

-PopperExcellent report Popper1. Look's like you know where to find all the bargains! The girl in the pics looks very doable. Looking forward to my arrival on 9/3. I know a lot of regulars talk down the Pattaya of today, from years past. But it's like that in any of the locations I've visited (Dominican, Latin / Central and South America). However, as a newbie to Pattaya (second visit coming up) , Pattaya is still a novelty to me. Since I don't know what it was like 5 years ago, have no comparison to it today. Other than the pricey beer; the girls, food, hotels, taxi's and clothing, are all bargains to me. Costs of girls I've flavored in my prior destinations are generally $60 to $150 (mostly ST, very few LT for those prices) , so no comparison with Pattaya girls at all.

Fon Tok
07-27-11, 14:05
It depends on taste. Some people are content with what Pattaya is offering now and all the power to them. There is no question, however, that things have changed in Pattaya, and I agree with you Opebo that Pattaya is hardly worth visiting anymore. Maybe just for a few days once in awhile.It's all about choice and attitude. If you have other choices that you feel are better, for whatever reason, you can choose them. Unfortunately, logistics and resources more often than not, dictate one's choices in life.

However, if you have a positive attitude, you can have fun just about anywhere, even in Pattaya! ;)

Hobbyist2
07-27-11, 15:27
Now going to sleep. Damn Pattaya sucks. I hate it here.

-Popper[/QUOTE]Nice report. Yep, Pattaya sucks, that's why I am going back.

Hotman 666
07-27-11, 15:56
Hi Guys,

There have been a lot of moans about Pattaya recently.

OK. It may not be as good as it was X number of years ago but where the hell is?

Also, our memories are 'rather selective' when looking back and we only seem to remember the GOOD times!

Anyway, Pataya 'is what it is' and we can not change that. Best that we just 'try' to enjoy what is so readily available there.

I have traveled to more than 40 different countries and I have to say that, for ME, a few days in Pattaya compares favorably with ANY other destination, world wide, as a value for money location for our hobby.

There are few destinations ANYWHERE that can give a man so much choice.

Asian, Black and Slavic girls are all readily available. Girls from, Disco's, Bar Beer's, Massage shops, Go-Go's, Part timers, Street meat and Civilians are ALL available.

So, for any 'Newbee's' that may be put off by the moans and complaints then DON'T BE!

There is something in Pattaya for EVERYONE and with prices from 500 (or less) to 5, 000 (or more) Baht. It is still my belief that Pattaya is probably STILL in the top 10, possibly the top 5, value for money mongering destinations WORLD WIDE.

Just ENJOY,

I do!

Hotman

Chris H
07-27-11, 17:28
There is something in Pattaya for EVERYONE and with prices from 500 (or less) to 5, 000 (or more) Baht. It is still my belief that Pattaya is probably STILL in the top 10, possibly the top 5, value for money mongering destinations WORLD WIDE.

HotmanI am curious what would be your top 5. I am headed to Pattaya next month, and hope to have this location be #1 for me.

Chris H

Cungong
07-28-11, 00:46
One of my non-pros just got promoted the other day from receptionist to assistant manager. She said she will be making 9, 000 baht / month. And my MILF high school teacher makes 30,000 baht/month.An optometrist in Pattaya earns 8, 000 baht / month plus commission on the sales.

GreenBud
07-28-11, 01:53
I am curious what would be your top 5. I am headed to Pattaya next month, and hope to have this location be #1 for me.

Chris H1) Phnom Penh (less girls, but still the cheapest)

2) Angeles (nothing else around except the bars)

3) Subic Bay / Puerto Galera (beach action in the Philippines)

4) Pattaya (still the best if you want to spend a little more money)

5) Saigon (a value only if you are experienced)

Honorable Mention: Bali & China (not enough experience to judge) and Burma & India (no personal experiences).

Mouse1
07-28-11, 08:45
1) Phnom Penh (less girls, but still the cheapest)

2) Angeles (nothing else around except the bars)

3) Subic Bay / Puerto Galera (beach action in the Philippines)

4) Pattaya (still the best if you want to spend a little more money)

5) Saigon (a value only if you are experienced)

Honorable Mention: Bali & China (not enough experience to judge) and Burma & India (no personal experiences).India? India! Dear Heaven, I can see you have no personal experience. Just check out the India threads on this forum.

Mouse1
07-28-11, 08:52
Hi Guys,

There have been a lot of moans about Pattaya recently.

OK. It may not be as good as it was X number of years ago but where the hell is?

Also, our memories are 'rather selective' when looking back and we only seem to remember the GOOD times!

Anyway, Pataya 'is what it is' and we can not change that. Best that we just 'try' to enjoy what is so readily available there.

I have traveled to more than 40 different countries and I have to say that, for ME, a few days in Pattaya compares favorably with ANY other destination, world wide, as a value for money location for our hobby.

There are few destinations ANYWHERE that can give a man so much choice.

Asian, Black and Slavic girls are all readily available. Girls from, Disco's, Bar Beer's, Massage shops, Go-Go's, Part timers, Street meat and Civilians are ALL available.

So, for any 'Newbee's' that may be put off by the moans and complaints then DON'T BE!

There is something in Pattaya for EVERYONE and with prices from 500 (or less) to 5, 000 (or more) Baht. It is still my belief that Pattaya is probably STILL in the top 10, possibly the top 5, value for money mongering destinations WORLD WIDE.

Just ENJOY,

I do!

HotmanI agree completely. But not only do our memories become selective, but our expectations rise.

The first time I came to Pattaya I thought it was heaven, based on the usual mixture of good, bad and ugly experiences. Now I expect only the best, and I'm disappointed when a girl isn't a star performer.

Hotman 666
07-28-11, 12:17
I am curious what would be your top 5. I am headed to Pattaya next month, and hope to have this location be #1 for me.

Chris HWell if you are picking the top five VALUE FOR MONEY, or Best Bang per Buck, destinations then Pattaya (or, probably MOST of Thailand) would definitely be high on MY list.

Cambodia would also be there as would Argentina, and probably Indonesia (Batam & Jakarta.)

However I MUST stress that this is only based on a current 'VALUE FOR MONEY' rating.

I have had GREAT times with many memorable experiences in Brazil (especially Rio) but now, with the current rate of exchange, I would NOT put Brazil high in my value for money rankings.

Bolivia (Santa Cruz) also comes quite high on my VFM list although it is rather small and does not have the variety that many other of the locations offer.

However, if we are drawing up a list of destinations for the 'Best POSSIBLE experience' irrespective of price then I am SURE that a completely different list of destinations might well come up!

Hotman.

Opebo
07-28-11, 13:04
I've been here a long time, and am always chatting with Thais about their wages.


Mm, I read somewhere that a good position at a decent hotel, say reception manager, they earn 200 bahts a day.Usually they quote it in monthly salary, and 8000-9, 000 baht is the norm for an ordinary receptionist at a middle range hotel, so a little more than what you quote, typically with just a couple of days off a month. At a middle to better range hotel the 'reception manager' would almost certainly make more like 12, 000 or even 15, 000.


One of my non-pros just got promoted the other day from receptionist to assistant manager. She said she will be making 9, 000 baht / month. And my MILF high school teacher makes 30,000 baht/month.This is accurate. Older civil servants such as high school teachers do quite well. (she must be pretty old!) They start low. About 10, 000 / month. But with a guaranteed raise every year and excellent benefits and security it is an great job. They even used to not have to do anything, but alas that has changed with neo-liberal influence on Thai society.


An optometrist in Pattaya earns 8, 000 baht / month plus commission on the sales.That sounds about right, but I doubt that the person is qualified in the same way an 'optometrist' back home would be. I go to an actual ophthalmologist, and he drives a Mercedes. I don't know his income precisely of course, but I'll bet it is closer to 80K than 8K. Please, gentlemen, don't every buy spectacles from the shops around Pattaya. Go to a real ophthalmologist.

Finnish Fucker
07-28-11, 13:25
I spent 5 days in Pattaya last week after my vacation in Vietnam. Pattaya is a classic destination in Europe among bachelors who travel to Thailand so I wanted to visit the place and see it with my own eyes. The 5 days I spent there turned our to be one the best of my travelling history.

First of all my hotel Siam Bayshore resort and spa was fantastic. The location is perfect, just 5 min walk to the bars and discos on walking street but still far enough from all the noise. And as I requested a quiet room I got one in the back buildings in the garden area. The room was excellent, both bath tub and a shower and a nice balcony. 2 swimming pools with good pool bar and great service. A bit more pricey though but who gives a shit on a 5 days vacation if the beer costs 2€ or 3€ or 4€ in the pool bar. After all I did not took so many beers there. Since the beaches in Pattaya aren't that nice I was happy to have such a great pool in the hotel.

On my first night I started touring the agogo bars around 21. 00 in the evening. Went to many places, Airport, Baccara, Dollhouse, Supergirl, Superbaby, Shark, Alcatraz etc. Just wanted to check the quality of the girls in different places. Well this was not a cheap way of starting the vacation in Pattaya since you have to drink in each bar if you want to look around. Finally I settled down in Airport as I found this place to be one of the best in terms of facilities and girls. They had jacuzzi show and also another stage where naked girls spanked eachother with some kind of rubber stick. This looked hilarious and the sound of the spanking even more fun. I asked one of the girls if that hurts and she said a bit, LOL. One of the girls spanking was really big breasted, natural boobs, and I winked her to talk with me as I was thinking of barfining this girl. She asked for a lady drink and I said sure. Well she ordered a glass of red wine + another lady drink for herself. We had a zip and suddenly she said I have to go and disappeared. I was pissed of and drank the drinks and left the bar. Had to get more money from the hotel, took a drink and the headed back to the walking street. At this moment I was a bit drunk, but not wasted by any means. After wondering a while on the street I spotted 3 girls in front of a bar and one of them caught especially my attention. Nice face and smile, slim body and extremely big and nice looking breasts in a black shirt revealing the cleavage. Unusually big for a thai girl. I was sure they are either fake or then saggy, normally this is my luck. We went in to Insomnia club and there things were getting promising. The girl was dancing and rubbing her body against mine. She was quite drunk but what the hell. We went to Lucifer disco, then to one of the beers bars and then headed back to my hotel. She passed out quickly on my bed and I helped to undress her. Then she went to the toilet to throw up. After she took a shower and when she returned I could not believe my eyes. This girl had absolutely the best breasts I have ever seen on a Thai girl, soft but round and perky C cups with really small nipples and areolas. At this point the sex was not working since we were both too drunk. We tried again in the morning but she was not feeling too well so we stopped after a few minutes. At this point I thought shit, such a nice body and no sex. I asked if she wants to spend the day with me and she said yes but wanted to change her clothes. So we went to her friends apartment and she got changed. After that we went back to my hotel for a siesta. She told me she is working in Bangkok in some soapy massage parlour and was in Pattaya just to party a few days. She did not want to tell me which massage parlour she worked and I told her it is not important for me, I don't even want to know. We went to eat in the afternoon and then back to my hotelroom. At this point the girl was feeling OK so I asked for sex. We took shower and then went to bed. She said to me first that cannot boom boom with you, you are too big (I am not). Well she finally relaxed and the following 30 min I was in heaven fucking the dream body of my life and she was active in the bed as well. Plus her pussy felt so nice and tight. After reaching orgasm I had a wide smile on my face. We spent the rest of the day relaxing and in the evening played pool and had drinks. She looked extremely hot in a sexy black top, denim shorts and high heels and had a nice make up as well. It was a pleasure to watch her playing pool and how her breats swinged as she shot the poolstick. She came over for one more night, again completely drunk and left on the following day home to Isaan. I gave her 4000 bath since she stayed with me almost 2 night and days and she was not complaining. Of course I spent a lot more money on the drinks and foo but I did not give a shit, spend money on a vacation, save at home! The only drawback was that she liked to party more than have sex but hey, that's what 21 year old girls do when they come for a short break from work. She told me that she did not come to Pattaya for earning extra money and I believe her since she did not ask for a money at any point. Of course I could not have payed her at all but since I had good time with her I wanted to give her the 4000 THB and have not regret this for a second since I had the ultimate intercourse with her on one afternoon, one that I remember for the rest of my life!

For the remaining 2 days I had no pressure to find more girls but anyway ended up fucking 2 more.

First was a ST bargirl from Sharks. 21 year old Isaan chick with nice body and also really beautiful natural C cups. Perfectly shaped. She did not want to stay LT because she did not know me as she said so we had ST. Next day I saw her again in Sharks and she asked immediately if I want to take her with a smile on her face. I refused because wanted to see a few more bars-mistake! Returned to Sharks after 1 hour and she had already another customer. If you snooze you lose! There was another young girl with big natural breasts but she did not give me any response when I tried to make contact. Well there are plenty of fish in the sea I thought and left the bar.

Went to Insomnia bar and spotted a really slim girl with a nice yellow dress. I did not had this kind of ultra slim girl during my trip and wanted to try her. She was a 21 year old freelancer and asked for 2000 bath for LT. I agreed and we went to my hotel. We took a bath together, had one round of sex in the night and another in the morning. Nice girl, ultra slim body and tight pussy as well despite she had young child and had given natural birth. Silicon breasts which are not my favourite but after having 2 perfect set of naturals already in Pattaya I did not mind. After she left I checked out and took a bus to Bangkok for some final adventures.

I found Pattaya to be nice place and the selection of girls plentiful. I stayed mostly in the walking street area. Went to Soi 6 once during the day just to see this place but did not have any sex. The girls were not that nice IMO and I prefer hotel sex to the upstairs of a bar room sex allways. Also I did not check the billiard bars that much, only played pool in soi 7 with my first night honey.

The agogo bars had as pretty girls as in Bangkok and I found that Pattaya had more girls with big natural breasts where in Bangkok almost all the big ones were silicon. But surely the situation is changing all the time. I liked best Airport and Sharks in Pattaya. Superbaby and Supergirl also OK but did not barfine any from there.

Every man has different taste so it is useless to list the "best" bars and agogos in the town in my opinion. Normally the ones that have more girls have also more chance to have more pretty ones in the line up.

I keep reading in this forum that Pattaya has gone downhill. Well I have no comparison since this was my first visit but I had extremely good luck with the girls and found the types I was looking for. Especially the girl I met first night made my trip to Pattaya a pure bliss. And it seems that during the low season there are not that many punters around as in high season but still plenty of girls. I prefer always to travel to Asia in low season, more laid back.

I wish I could go back soon but no chance before next year. And next time I don't even bother to read this forum beforehand as I did now. I know now that there are so many girls around and the situiation changing all the time that I simply just go there and make the best out of it.

Have fun out there and remember that "to look for perfection is all very well but to look for heaven is to live here in hell.".Sting.

-Kep

Luvpuss
07-28-11, 15:06
I am curious what would be your top 5. I am headed to Pattaya next month, and hope to have this location be #1 for me.

Chris HIt all depends on what you want.

If you just want value, I have negotiated Tijuana working girls for $10. However, It is not a mongering destination.

For just plain wall to wall pussy for a cheap price, Angeles.

I like the overall experience. For that, Thailand can't be beat. The infrastructure, hotels, food, activites, some decent beaches, fairly safe in my opnion, friendly people, lots of pussy.

Thailand is higher than some areas, but still a good value for the developed world.

Hotman 666
07-28-11, 15:12
I spent 5 days in Pattaya last week after my vacation in Vietnam. Pattaya is a classic destination in Europe among bachelors who travel to Thailand so I wanted to visit the place and see it with my own eyes. The 5 days I spent there turned our to be one the best of my travelling history.-KepHmmmmmm, it is nice to see that SOMEONE still thinks Pattaya is good!

Glad you had fun Kep.

Hotman.

Finnish Fucker
07-28-11, 16:42
Hmmmmmm, it is nice to see that SOMEONE still thinks Pattaya is good!

Glad you had fun Kep.

Hotman.Hotman,

Thanks for your comment. No matter what people post nowadays on the forum I had great time in Pattaya. Maybe the reason I have never been there before and seen the "good old days" helped since I did not have a reference. The fact that I saw twice fantastic natural breasts in Pattaya was great for me since I like big natural rack and had never seen such nice ones in Thailand before. Only small tits or bolt ones.

Compared to my last vacation in Thailand 3 years ago when I was in Bangkok, Koh Samui and Koh Tao this trip was definately better in terms of sexy girls. And that is always nice when things are moving to a better direction while one gets older.

Will be back some day but before that still plenty of coutries and places to explore.

-Kep

Hobbyist2
07-28-11, 19:21
[QUOTE=Keppana; 1181393]I spent 5 days in Pattaya last week after my vacation in Vietnam. Pattaya is a classic destination in Europe among bachelors who travel to Thailand so I wanted to visit the place and see it with my own eyes. The 5 days I spent there turned our to be one the best of my travelling history.

Thanks for your report. Now I am getting even more anxious to get back there.

Luvpuss
07-28-11, 20:48
Ahh. I know where to get them!

Sadly I won't tell.

I found 2 girls with a great lack of experience this trip, one on soi 6 who was 18 and I was her second customer and second dick inside her. Yes no joke.

She wanted to learn everything, she really didn't know anything. The body was ofcourse amazing and looks. Ohmygod!

Good she had a nice guy like me.

The second was 25, but I was her first customer. She was horryfied to have sex with a farang, but it was ok after.

Ok, I tell you. She work on the bar on the right of LK rennisance on Soi diana.If you actually believe a hooker in Pattaya, you are a FOOL!

TomJackin
07-29-11, 00:45
You forgot to mention a good sense of humor and poor eyesight.
Come on. You expect the worst & are happy if you find a moderate performer.
Same old bullshit. If you really have internet in your room. Watch it.Dude, please share where else in the world that you been to, not read about, that has more venues, more available beautiful women, and the best value for the buck than Pattaya. Or are just trying to get to 100 posts by just bashing everyone's opinion on Pattaya? Pattaya is still one of the best destinations in the world for mongering, especially if you are looking for that GFE and like Asian women. Just because you could not find the woman of your dreams on Beach Road is no reason to bash the place. BTW, did you even look in the discos?


I returned after a year away to find the place ruined! The police are chasing away all young (under 20 officially and all newbies unofficially) women from Beach Road. All that is left are older (over 24) and more hard core putas. Tragic and harbinger of things to come. The freelancers were far and away the prettiest, younger (18-21) women in the area and now no more. The bars also only have 20 or 21 and up. All seem to be hard core and been around a long time! I have found nothing on the internet any where about this. Women on Beach Road tell me this started last year October and has gotten stricter under the new government, led by a woman. Any suggestions on where to find nice, not too experienced. 18-20 year olds? One woman told me under 20 was illegal in Thailand, but I cannot believe they changed the age of consent. It seems to be a local ordinance of some kind.As far as I remember, over 3 decades, the youngest and the hottest women in Pattaya have always been in the clubs. You have to ask yourself one question,"Why would a hot 18-20 year old free lance on Beach Road, when she could have the security and support of a Mamasan in a large go go?" Not to mention the camaraderie of other girls that are in her own situation. A lot of these girls even get feed by the clubs. The real money and security for the young ones are in the clubs.

I just returned from 8 nights in Pattaya, and yes, there were plenty of 18-20 year old girls working in the go-gos. I actually met a few girls that were 17. If you are looking for 18-20 year old girls, go to the source, talk to Mamasan. If fact, if you like the club, I highly recommend buying Mamasan a drink; doors will open.

Trip report to follow.

BionicMan
07-29-11, 10:43
Great report. Should be in the 'Reports of Distinction. '

Such a change from reading all the BS and the guys spending hours searching the beach for their 50 Baht fuck with diamond that is just not there. Of course you found what you were looking for because you were looking in the right place. Yes this involved spending more than 50 Baht but you came to Pattaya to party and you didn't care.

Great stuff.Hilarious. And very true!

Without being a waster I still can't understand the race to save the 50B. Or so.

Each one his own, of course.

Ibn Buttita
07-29-11, 11:06
My April trip to Jakarta and Macau had been an exercise in changing plans on the fly, and the final Thailand leg was no exception. My initial plan had been to spend a couple of days in Pattaya and then finish up with two in Bangkok. I never made it to Bangkok itself; Pattaya seems to have that affect on people.

After my flight from Macau to Bangkok airport I took the Rong Reuang bus to Pattaya for 124 Baht; in retrospect I should have taken the slightly more expensive Bell bus for 200 Baht that included a van drop off at my hotel (I didn't since I had not yet settled on a hotel). Since this was my maiden voyage to Pattaya I didn't know the lay of the land and ended up walking from the bus stop a longer distance than ideal in the heat and humidity, but a fellow American did help me find my way. A taxi driver did give me short lift to the Opey De Place Hotel on Soi Lengkee. A 4th floor deluxe room was available for 990 Baht; it was a bit simpler than I would normally associate with 'deluxe, ' but was clean and had ac, tv, and a balcony. The pool, in a courtyard filled with greenery, was a nice feature that I didn't use as much as I wanted. The hotel's main advantage was its location on a relatively calm side street but near the intersection of Soi Diana and Soi Buakhao and a short walk from Soi LK Metro, putting it within reach of attractions.

I began my walking tour of Pattaya at around 7 that evening, and it frankly overwhelmed me. Despite all I had read about the place, I wasn't ready for the scale of the sex. The problem was, with so many options I passed – the beer bars, BJ clubs on Soi Post Office, etc. – I didn't know where to begin. I was tempted by the girls on Beach Road, who looked much better than I had expected, but I wondered if that was due to the dark so I passed. Heading over to walking Street didn't help my indecision, with the endless Go-go bars and distractions of the carnival atmosphere. While I looked on at a street performer in front of Lucifer's Disco, I noticed four or five cuties standing in front of another bar. A petite one in a tight black shirt and pants really attracted me, so I went up to her to say Hi, and we soon got around to the business of her coming to my hotel. Her name was Goockai.

Goockai asked for 1, 000 Baht for short time. I had remembered reading about Lucifer's freelancers going for 1, 000 Baht, but didn't remember if it was for short or long time. At this point, though, I was sold on going to bed with this girl, an absolute sweetie with a spunky attitude. So I went along with her price and we took a motorbike back to the hotel. We had a great couple of hours. I loved licking every part of Goockai's tiny 22-year old body, from her little eraser nipples to her tight pussy, and moving her around into plenty of positions. It was such a good time that at the end I asked her to stay overnight. Her price was an additional thousand, and of course at that point I had absolutely zero leverage so I agreed. We resumed for another hour or so, and after drifting to sleep resumed for a long morning session. We headed out for lunch together at a good Thai kitchen popular with a lot of other mongerers and their dates. I ended up spending each of my four nights in Pattaya with Goockai. I realized that I had probably paid a bit more than the going rate (2, 000 Baht long time) , but besides the night sessions we spent long mornings busy with each other.

Ibn Buttita
07-29-11, 11:09
After lunch with Goockai, which I had thought might be a farewell meal, I took a swim at my hotel pool. Refreshing – which I needed, since my main afternoon destination would be Devil's Den on nearby Soi LK Metro. I had been to Eden twice on a visit to Bangkok a few years before, so I was used to the set up. Notable about Devil's Den was the outstanding service provided by the American manager John. I wish every business I patronized had someone at the helm with such a sense of courtesy and hospitality. I also wish that every business I patronized in the rest of my life had a manager who knew which girls liked to lick each other's pussy or loved anal. And his intimate knowledge about the Devil's Den girls and recommendations were spot on. When I was ready to select the girls lined up against the wall across from the bar. It's not quite a Macau Sauna-level lineup, but I wasn't displeased.

I spotted a couple of cuties on opposite sides of the anal line that really stood out: curvy Dew (did it) and slender Taylor (didn't do it). The manager confirmed that they played well together, and so we were off. They led me up to a room, and into one of the best threesomes of my life. It could have been their attitudes – these girls could have had the brightest on-stop smiles of any I had been with. Or it might have been the incongruity of it all: here were two of the cutest girls I would ever be with, girls with such innocent faces, and they were taking me on a porno-quality romp, including activities like fucking Dew in the ass while she was riding Taylor's strap-on dildo in cowgirl. I thought I would bring down the ceiling while slamming Dew in the sex swing, but it felt like the room shook more when I came in Taylor's oh-so-cute mouth. A well-spent 4, 000 Baht (including tips and drinks).

I needed another swim after that. I got even more soaked walking to Beach Road in the humidity later that afternoon. The girls there impressed me again, on the whole they looked young and fit enough, but that night was intended to be my last in Pattaya before heading to Bangkok, and my main goal was to check out the Go-go's. But just as I was heading off to have some dinner at a dish restaurant, I spotted a familiar face sitting on a bench under a tree: Goockai. So it turned out she was a Beach Road girl as well as a Lucifer's / Walking Street freelancer. I went up to her and she greeted me warmly, and discussed meeting up later that night. (I also saw the American who had helped me get my bearings the day before; so it turned out he was not just a real estate businessman!).

Over on Walking Street after dinner I made the rounds. I stopped into Baccarat, where the girls looked fine but I didn't feel like squeezing in among the crowd, and Baby Doll, where the girls looked young but just too Japanese-style mechanical. I had read about Windmill being a pretty raunchy place, so I dropped in to see the shower and dildo shows, among other debaucheries. But the women were just not that good looking and a few of them looked just a little too young for comfort. So I moved on.

On to Goockai. I really liked our sessions the night before and that morning, and wanted to get with her again. So I called her and she met me near my hotel. We ate some street food; Goockai turned out to be quite the culinary guide. She looked amazing in a tiny black skirt, which gave me some ideas when we got up to the room. I took her out to the balcony and we began to kiss. I sat down in a chair and unzipped my fly and took my cock out of my pants, and slipped on a condom. I pulled her over to me and slid her panties aside, and eased her onto my dick. She rode me a little while and then I picked her up while we were still engaged, and lay her on her back on the bed and fucked her with our clothes still on. We eventually got naked until sleep called, and repeated throughout the next morning. When I did wake, holding naked Goockai next to me, I called the front desk and asked if I could stay another night. I got a yes, and so I added a day to my Pattaya stay and sliced another from Bangkok.

Ibn Buttita
07-29-11, 11:13
A nice thing about Opey De Place hotel is that it's across the street from Le Katai guesthouse / restaurant, which serves some tasty English breakfasts, important for recovering some energy after a busy night. Goockai and I ate there and agreed to meet again that night. When she asked, I told her that I had in mind some swimming and a foot massage in mind for that day, but I imagine she knew that I had other activities planned (She must have known since over the course of our time together it became more and more a struggle to cum!).

The day's first stop: Devil's Den again. I like diversity in my erotic activities, but I knew that there aren't too many places like it: guaranteed great service and effort for a fair price. I can't think of too many other venues where the girls will work so hard, and do whatever t takes, to make sure that you get off. I was so pleased with the previous day's session with Dew and Taylor that I asked the manager if they were available, but they were with other lucky guys. Instead I went for Ning, a pro tart whom I had noticed outside wearing the red plastic devil outfit I had seen on DD's website. Once I chose her I couldn't settle on another girl, so I just asked her and she picked out an innocent little thing, a Chinese-looking girl with cute bangs named Cherie, who apparently was still in training. In the room the 'training day' situation turned out to be a little less hot than I had expected. Both girls worked hard, Ning to make sure I enjoyed anal with her and Cherie to ensure that she sucked all the cum from my cock.

But the awesome attitude I enjoyed with Dew and Taylor just wasn't there with Ning and Cherie. I had sensed this from the start, so I quickly stepped out by giving the excuse that I wanted to order a drink. But when I got downstairs I asked the manager if I could book with Dew and Taylor for later that afternoon. He checked their schedules, they were available at 6PM, and we set it up. By the time I finished with Ning and Cherie I had an hour to grab a pub dinner before my repeat session with Taylor and Dew. They had their work cut out for them, since my energy was flagging. But they were all smiles and endlessly willing to indulge my fantasies, whether it was Dew and I licking Taylor's pussy together, or me fucking Taylor on her back as Dew sat on her face, Dew and I locked in a wet kiss.

After almost three days I still hadn't pulled a girl from a Go-go. This was a must-do, so that evening I headed for Walking Street. For no particular reason except (maybe the decent drink special advertised on the sign outside) I went up to the X-Zone on Soi 16 off Walking Street. The girl that most caught my eye was one of the door hostesses, but she told me during a chat that the mamasan was her mom and didn't let her go with customers. So I took in the view of the table shows, including a close up look at a cutie fucking another girl with a strap-on dildo. The recipient of the dildo, Anh, was sexy, lithe, and limber, so after her showtime I arranged to go with her. The bar fine was 800 and short time 1, 500. It wasn't cheap, and unfortunately it wasn't worth it. Back at my hotel Anh was rather cold and distant, even robotic. I almost counted down the minutes until the session was over.

On the schedule for later that night was another date with Goockai, but first I wanted to make up for the unsatisfactory experience with the girl from X-Zone so I walked over to check out the Go-go's on Soi LK Metro. I stopped into Champagne but quickly left since it was too crowded, and dropped in to M*A*S*H where I had a beer and scoped out those camouflage-clad girlies. Across the street, The Office turned out to be the favorite Go-go of my trip. The vibe and the music were great, the girls looked outstanding, and some ranked among the best dancers I had ever seen. Among the lookers who caught my eye was Noi. When I gave her a smile she and a friend joined me at my seat against the wall, and some friendly banter, lady drinks, and groping followed (though the family seated nearby made this uncomfortable. See related post).

Noi invited me to see her and her friend in a shower show in a few minutes, and when they started the naked rub a dub dub I took a seat next to them. I lent a hand, and by now Noi's glistening slender nude body had me wishing I hadn't committed to see Goockai so soon (it was about half an hour until I was to meet her). So I reluctantly put aside any thoughts of barfining Noi, paid my bill, and left to get ready to see Goockai. On the walk over to the hotel I decided that I would try to squeeze in a short time quickie with Noi so I called Goockai and suggested getting together a couple of hours later at around 1AM. Her response: 'Are you with another girl? ' I quickly reassured her I was just out having drinks, and returned to The Office. Just in time to see Noi getting ready to leave, having been barfined by an older guy. All in the space of 20 minutes!

I walked back in defeat to the hotel, called Goockai, and convinced her to come over. The disappointment over missing out on Noi soon evaporated when I saw Goockai in her tight short-shorts, and we repeated with another hot night. The next morning, during a break in our typical long morning romp, I called the font desk and asked to stay one more night. It was official: Bangkok was out for this trip, and I would have one more full day to enjoy Pattaya.

Ibn Buttita
07-29-11, 11:18
after another long morning session with goockai we went to lunch; whenever she got hungry, she loudly let me know about it. for a small girl, she had a big appetite and could really eat! after eating i reserved my early afternoon for some innocent thai pleasures: a good foot and shoulder massage at a place across from the hotel, as i waited out a heavy rain shower. i also took a traditional oil massage from the sexy masseuse, but my hope that extras would be offered went unfulfilled.

i did know a place where my desires would be fulfilled; i had to get back to devil's den, not knowing when i would get back to a place like it. another session with taylor and dew was not in the cards, as neither was available, but the manager john steered me toward luck and celine, and they did not disappoint. on the way out i suggested to john that they install a firehouse pole to make it easier for customers, legs turned to rubber after a wild session, to get from the rooms down to the bar.

as i ate dinner i realized that my remaining hours in pattaya were waning. to make the most of my time, and because i needed a trip to an oily massage parlor to make this a true thai vacation, i headed over to dream teen massage on soi 21 just off soi buakhao. the girls out front were young and cute, and the one recommended to me, cream, fit this mold as well. i observed a big difference between her and the other girls, though: her height, and her ass. as she led me upstairs i eagerly watched her voluptuous buns sway beneath a tight plaid skirt. when we proceeded with our special massage i made sure to finish with her lying face down as i grinded into and clutched her wonderful ass. an oily like dream teen may not be the greatest value in pattaya (1, 900 baht) compared with a bar girl session, but it is quick and easy to set up and the girls are cute.

soi lk metro became my main venue for the night. i dropped into submarine go-go, with its creative design and cute dancers (one tiny girl in the shower show wowed me) , and unfortunately terrible beer. then off to the office. i didn't waste any time this night; i found noi and barfined her (bf, st and lady drinks came to 2, 400 baht). at the hotel we had drinks on the balcony and embarked on a slow, sensual session. noi was slender with an elegance that would serve her well as an escort in a major european city if she chose. she surprised me when she told me that she was 29 years old – she had the sophistication to match her age, but i would have pegged her as in her early or at most mid-20s by the look of her body.

my checklist still had a blank spot for a blow job bar; i had never actually been serviced at such an establishment, though i had peeked into kangaroo bar in bangkok a few years back. this trip i didn't end up having time to get over to the soi post office joints or anything on soi 6, but [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s on soi lk metro was conveniently close at hand. i had passed it a few times before and the women sitting outside didn't impress, but this night there were a couple of decent looking ones there. my overall impression? [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s was way too nice, not nearly sleazy enough for an authentic bj bar experience. that said, it's plush and very well managed (the american manager is a good guy, i enjoyed conversing with him over a beer). i did have a good time with the girl i took upstairs. i took off my pants and sat on the couch as she proceeded with what she does best, after taking her own clothes off. i liked the bbbj+cim and the view in the multiple mirrors, but truth be told it wasn't one of the best blow jobs i ever received. i guess i set my expectations too high, but since she told me she had worked at star of light in bangkok i was a bit surprised that the bj was not mind blowing (so to speak). i did appreciate her friendly attitude, and the experience was worth the 700 baht (but a better deal would have been spending an extra 300 for full service).

i walked back from [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s knowing that i had only one encounter left in pattaya. as agreed, i called goockai to let her know to come over. it felt like an eternity waiting for her as i checked email in the hotel lobby, but then i felt a little burst of air in my ear: goockai had snuck up on me. she suggested we go out for a while, and she took me a covered cluster of beer bars on a few blocks over on soi buakhao in the direction of central pattaya road. in fact, she took me to her own beer bar (she had quite a repertoire: walking street freelancer, beach road girl, beer bar bargirl). we returned to the hotel and had a final few hours together.

this stretch of four nights and mornings (and meals!) with goockai was my first 'girlfriend for a week' experience. i enjoyed it immensely, and that it allowed combination of companionship with the freedom to enjoy myself with other girls. i loved spending time with this girl, beyond the sex – her endearing / annoying laugh and frequent singing, good food suggestions, the way she gave to beggars on the street, seeing the pictures of her daughter on her phone. and the way she could look at one moment adorable and the next sultry and sexy. goockai helped me arrange my early morning taxi to bangkok suvarnabhumi airport (1, 000 baht) , and as we parted she said something about taking care of me – she definitely did, and that was a perfect way to end this trip to pattaya.

Ibn Buttita
07-29-11, 11:21
I wonder if anyone else has noticed some not-so-typical visitors to Pattaya Go-go clubs like I saw back in April. At The Office on Soi LK Metro I saw an older white man (maybe Russian?) with two women in their 20s or 30s who looked like his daughters. Much more surprising, I was at The Office as a family came in. The white father brought along his teenage son, maybe 15 years old (who looked very uncomfortable) , but also his two blonde daughters who couldn't have been older than 8 or 9 years old. There was a Thai woman with them who I assume was the father's wife or girlfriend. Maybe she had worked at the club (she did seem to know some of the dancers) and wanted to show the family her (former) workplace? Maybe it was a way to 'legitimize' her work or give another sort of lesson to the kids? I don't know, but they sat and watched the topless dancers, nude shower show, etc. The whole time I was there. Worse, they were sitting not far from me while I was fondling and getting fondled by two dancers. That put a damper on my mood; having the minors nearby made me rather distracted and frankly annoyed. I'm all for promoting openness about sex but I felt that it was out of line for that father to bring his kids into the club, and the management shouldn't have allowed them to enter. We mongerers need places where we can escape the kiddies!

Amjeck
07-29-11, 14:03
I just returned from 8 nights in Pattaya, and yes, there were plenty of 18-20 year old girls working in the go-gos. I actually met a few girls that were 17.Which gogos? What were the prices?

Nixonbd
07-29-11, 14:48
I wonder if anyone else has noticed some not-so-typical visitors to Pattaya Go-go clubs like I saw back in April. At The Office on Soi LK Metro I saw an older white man (maybe Russian?) with two women in their 20s or 30s who looked like his daughters. Much more surprising, I was at The Office as a family came in. The white father brought along his teenage son, maybe 15 years old (who looked very uncomfortable) , but also his two blonde daughters who couldn't have been older than 8 or 9 years old. There was a Thai woman with them who I assume was the father's wife or girlfriend. Maybe she had worked at the club (she did seem to know some of the dancers) and wanted to show the family her (former) workplace? Maybe it was a way to 'legitimize' her work or give another sort of lesson to the kids? I don't know, but they sat and watched the topless dancers, nude shower show, etc. The whole time I was there. Worse, they were sitting not far from me while I was fondling and getting fondled by two dancers. That put a damper on my mood; having the minors nearby made me rather distracted and frankly annoyed. I'm all for promoting openness about sex but I felt that it was out of line for that father to bring his kids into the club, and the management shouldn't have allowed them to enter. We mongerers need places where we can escape the kiddies!Eurpeans are very open about sex. However, I have to question a parent's wisdom to take a young family stroll down WS, much less into a bar on WS. I too would have been uncomfortable playing with a scantily clad honey with young kids loking on.

WildHawk
07-29-11, 17:53
Eurpeans are very open about sex. However, I have to question a parent's wisdom to take a young family stroll down WS, much less into a bar on WS. I too would have been uncomfortable playing with a scantily clad honey with young kids loking on.One of the gogos in Patts lavished attention on a boy, could not have been older than 13; two girls groping him whilst dad in the next booth watched on. Keepin' the mongering all in the family. Odd, I say. But, hey, at least they weren't serving him booze.

Fon Tok
07-29-11, 23:09
Eurpeans are very open about sex. However, I have to question a parent's wisdom to take a young family stroll down WS, much less into a bar on WS. I too would have been uncomfortable playing with a scantily clad honey with young kids loking on.I grew up in San Francisco, California (USA) in the 1960s. One of my fondest memories as a boy was driving down Broadway Boulevard and seeing the go-go dancers in elevated plexi-glass boxes outside the clubs. Even better was the larger than life photos of Carol Doda with her 44DDs outside the Condor Club.

This was post-beatnik San Francisco. There was drugs and debauchery everywhere you looked. The friendly ladies outside the Walking Street clubs are fairly tame in comparison. Funny thing, the Condor Club is still there today, but the Carol Doda placards are long gone!

Trantinr
07-30-11, 00:33
After another long morning session with Goockai we went to lunch; whenever she got hungry, she loudly let me know about it. For a small girl, she had a big appetite and could really eat!.And the way she could look at one moment adorable and the next sultry and sexy. Goockai helped me arrange my early morning taxi to Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport (1, 000 Baht) , and as we parted she said something about taking care of me – she definitely did, and that was a perfect way to end this trip to Pattaya.Hi Ibn Buttita,

Great report. Thank you. I'm heading to Pattaya nexy week and really looking forward to trip. In my last two trips (Aug10 & Feb11) I hooked up with a lovely girl called Kuckkai who was 22, had a young daughter who would be 2 years old now who lived with Kuckkai's mother in Bangkok and wonder if it's the same girl. Once again, thanks for the report.

TomJackin
07-30-11, 01:21
Which gogos? What were the prices?There were plenty of 18-20 year old dancers in Happy, Baby Dolls, Champion, a few in Rhino, and the same in Alcatraz. I only bar fined one out of Champion, she was 19. Bar fine was 600, short time was 1000 for the girl. I'm not a big fan of the young ones because they are inexperienced, and the girl from Champion was no different. As far as the 17 year old girls, I suggest you get to know the Mamasans and they are happy to disclose who they are. Their bar fines were the same as the others.

Junior
07-30-11, 04:17
[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita; 1181774]After another long morning session with Goockai we went to lunch; whenever she got hungry, she loudly let me know about it. For a small girl, she had a big appetite and could really eat! After eating I reserved my early afternoon for some innocent Thai pleasures: a good foot and shoulder massage at a place across from the hotel, as I waited out a heavy rain shower. I also took a traditional oil massage from the sexy masseuse, but my hope that extras would be offered went unfulfilled.

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Sounds like you had one great trip. Love Devils Den too.

Spend three full weeks with Taylor in January / February. Best time I had in a long time.

Junior

BionicMan
07-30-11, 06:27
Eurpeans are very open about sex. However, I have to question a parent's wisdom to take a young family stroll down WS, much less into a bar on WS. I too would have been uncomfortable playing with a scantily clad honey with young kids loking on.Being open to sex does not necessarily mean one can be such an idiot and bring kids to a stripper joint where there are also couples trying to "get to know each other" in a deeper way.

The joint should not allow them to enter as this, as you say too, will lead to unconfort of other customers.

Ibn Buttita
07-30-11, 08:52
Thanks for the comments, everyone. It was a fantastic trip, though I'm envious of anyone who gets to spend a longer, more relaxed stretch of time in Pattaya.


Sounds like you had one great trip. Love Devils Den too. Spend three full weeks with Taylor in January / February. Best time I had in a long time. JuniorTaylor was amazing, and I really think she is the cutest girl I ever spent time with. She's not shown on the girls' page on the Devil's Den website anymore, although if do a Google search you do come to her page. Anyone know if that means she has left, just doing escorting for them, or is just on a break?


Hi Ibn Buttita, Great report. Thank you. I'm heading to Pattaya nexy week and really looking forward to trip. In my last two trips (Aug10 & Feb11) I hooked up with a lovely girl called Kuckkai who was 22, had a young daughter who would be 2 years old now who lived with Kuckkai's mother in Bangkok and wonder if it's the same girl. Once again, thanks for the report.Those details sound like they match up, it likely could be her. Lovely is the perfect description for this girl. She's very sweet but also has a strength to her. Let us know if you get together with her.


Link of Distinction? Don't think so. Interestingly written with some nice touches such as walking from the bus stop and Goockai. But most it just reads like advertising copy.I bet there's an English Literature PhD candidate out there somewhere writing their dissertation on the style of writing on the ISG! I do find it a little tricky to put in practical information as well as capture the flavor of the places and encounters; for example, how Penthouse Forum-like to get when describing the actual sessions? The need to to fill in a phrase here or there when trying to get a report finally written (it takes me forever to get these out, I still have trips from last August to do) does lend itself to pulling out a hackneyed term here and there. But I mostly write these for myself as a kind of diary and so think they do capture the essence of those experiences.


What are the DD rates and how do you sign up? Baby Doll Mechanical? Really? If anything I think the mechanical term applies to DD?That's the interesting thing about Devil's Den; the girls are very well trained in what to do, and they get right into things if you don't ask for something in particular or make the first move at the beginning, but they were really not "mechanical" (except for Ning and Cherie to some extent, maybe because it was partially a training session for Cherie) , as far as I experienced. The others. Taylor, Dew, Luck, Celine. Were as service oriented as I've experienced anywhere, and had such friendly attitudes. I really think the smiles turned me on as much as anything else.

An hour's session at Devil's Den is 3, 600 Baht (plus drinks, and I tipped the girls at the end) , and each visit I just walked in, and each time there was just one other guy there, either on the way out or who had just walked in, so crowding was not an issue. It think a fair number of guys order girls to come to their hotels via phone or the website though, which is why some of the outstanding girls like Taylor and Dew are not always available.


Windmill no attractive girls? Maybe you should try Top Charoen? Disappointing experience with the Walking Street Go-Go Girl? Of course it was. A good experience would have pulled the readers attention away from DD. So no surprise there. And the Office turned out to be the best Go-Go bar with outstanding girls and the best dancers you've ever seen? Outstanding girls? The sooner you get to Top Charoen the better.That's a good recommendation for Top Charoen; I hadn't heard of it. Where is it? I found it really hard at the start to know how to approach the Go-go's, there's so many, and of course the issue of the girls is so subjective. What really sold the Soi LK Metro ones for me was the convenience in terms of proximity to my hotel, the lack of the Walking Street carnival atmosphere and crowds (which was fun at the start but a bit wearing) , and the fact that the clubs were well set up (clever decor, good seating arrangement, etc.). OK, and the girls too, I think The Office did recruit well.


Before I sign off your quote below makes me think you've been to Pattaya before? 'This trip I didn't end up having time to get over to the Soi Post Office joints or anything on Soi 6.'No, it was my first trip to Pattaya, but I had read so much about some places that I felt I had been! That said, it was really a "have to see it to believe it" experience. The scale of what's available, the atmosphere, etc. I'm not sure when I'll get back, but I'll still be reading the forum about it.

Tiger 888
07-30-11, 10:29
Link of Distinction? Don't think so.

Interestingly written with some nice touches such as walking from the bus stop and Goockai. But most it just reads like advertising copy. What are the DD rates and how do you sign up?....
I believe you are not in a position to criticise Ibn Buttita's marvellous reports before you are able to come up with something better.

Ibn, keep the good work coming. It was my best read since the legendary stories of Evil Penivel. Living in Macau I enjoyed your reports about the Saunas. They are spot on.

Wes Man
07-30-11, 13:15
Arrived in Pattaya after two nights in both Bangkok and Chiang Mai where the initial discharge of relief happened on all nights. I decided to check out a lot of Pattaya staying at Eastiny Seven for the first night, which of course is GF and close to a lot of beer bars. Checked most in the early evening and then proceeded to Beach Road to check the freelancers as well as the bars up to the beer garden. Saw and spoke to plenty available but really none grabbed me so after eating then proceeded to Walking St.

Checked a couple of Go Go places with nice girls but decided I wanted something a little older and experienced. Went back to beer bars on second road and there met a lady aged 29 who took my eye and spoke well with good english. Decided to buy a couple of lady drinks to to make sure of my choice and then about 11. 00pm bar fined her for 300 bf and after asking 2000 long time she dropped to 1000 which was fine for me. Back to hotel for a superb session and stayed all night and had a morning session before breakfast.

Not being happy with hotel I sent her home while I found a good hotel and then met her at 11. 00. She wanted to spend the day with me. Checked into Areca Lodge (girls no problem) with her and I decided she could stay another night. From then on the service just got superb to the point I had to slow her down at times as she was too much for me. Every time of the day when we arrived back at the hotel she would strip off naked and lay on the bed and you know what starts then.

Hotel was just across the road from LK Metro, so with my girl we visited many bars there. All good drinking and eating with plenty of available ladies. Things were so good for me I did something which was not normal for me. I kept my friend for 6 days where we lived together the whole time. It was so good I was sad to have to wave good bye to her. But have already booked my fare to Pattaya in November. If she is around, maybe. If not there are plenty of opportunities.

I decided Pattaya was so far ahead of Chiang Mai and Bangkok that next time I would head straight to Pattaya. By the way the scuba diving there is good as well.

Off to Ko Samui now and then to Phuket. I do not know what is in store for me but will find out.

Hobbyist2
07-30-11, 13:42
[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita; 1181774]Nice report. Pattaya offers so much, I can't wait to get back there.

Hobbyist2
07-30-11, 13:45
I decided Pattaya was so far ahead of Chiang Mai and Bangkok that next time I would head straight to Pattaya.Nice report. Pattaya is a great place.

Junior
07-30-11, 14:18
Taylor was amazing, and I really think she is the cutest girl I ever spent time with. She's not shown on the girls' page on the Devil's Den website anymore, although if do a Google search you do come to her page. Anyone know if that means she has left, just doing escorting for them, or is just on a break?I was there last month and Taylor had left Devils Den at the end of may. Not sure whether it is for good. Hopefully she will return by December when my next visit is scheduled.

Junior

Amjeck
07-30-11, 15:16
I only bar fined one out of Champion, she was 19. Bar fine was 600, short time was 1000 for the girl.What other gogos are you guys getting girls to go for 1000ST? It seemed like almost all gogs around LK metro (except Blue) had girls going for 1000ST. What about walking street? I don't think any girl will go for 1000ST from Airport, Baccara, or Happy. We need more info on prices from guys on the ground.

Mackin
07-30-11, 16:41
Can you please help me with a location for Top Charon. Don't recall it as it has been a couple of years since I hgave been able to return. Could be on the scheduls this fall thought.

Thanks

Member5555
07-30-11, 20:32
Hi guys, I just need help with the current rates for ST and LT in Bangkok as well as Pattaya as will be visiting these places in a couple of weeks. I promise some good reports, my first time mongering. Show some love people.

Also, am planning "Devil's Den" at Pattaya for sure at least once, may be more. Seems like a worthwhile place to visit. Anyone had bad experience there? Any word of advice would also be greatly appreciated.

Luvpuss
07-31-11, 00:10
What other gogos are you guys getting girls to go for 1000ST? It seemed like almost all gogs around LK metro (except Blue) had girls going for 1000ST. What about walking street? I don't think any girl will go for 1000ST from Airport, Baccara, or Happy. We need more info on prices from guys on the ground.Everyone negoitates differently and pays different prices. You are in the ball park (which is good) , but may have to pay a little more for the places you mentioned. Just don't be the idiot who is paying 4 or 5k for those girls.

Luvpuss
07-31-11, 00:13
Can you please help me with a location for Top Charon. Don't recall it as it has been a couple of years since I hgave been able to return. Could be on the scheduls this fall thought.

ThanksAre you referring to the Optical shops?