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Psychman

11-06-11, 18:53

Could you define this term?In Thailand, you will find streets and then "side streets," or side Soi (meaning streets). So, Soi 13 will be followed by Soi 13/1, and then Soi 13/2.

Luvpuss

11-06-11, 20:04

Hi guys,

I was just about to buy plane ticket and make hotel reservation for my holiday in Pattaya in early Jan 2012 when I froze hearing critic news.

May thai flood jeopardize it all now? I know bad weather didn't affect Pattaya at the moment, but would clouds and rains move there in the next weeks?

It seems it has been raining for months in Thailand, how long is it going to last?

I don't want to run ten thousand miles and concern about the weather. I want my sun!

Anybody got a link to accurate wheater forecast in Pattaya in order to monitor situation there?

I'm also scared of price hikes and I wouldn't like to wait for weeks before buying my plane ticket to see if it's getting better because I'd rather avoid possible further increases.

Thanks for your support.Google "weather in Pattaya". It will give you all kinds of links to past / future weather patterns.

Where is the stock market going to be at in January? Who the F knows. Just like none of us can predict the weather for that time.

Hatguy

11-07-11, 00:02

Queens Victory Inn is located on Soi 6, Soi Post Office, I believe that is 13/2, have a few go go not very popular but closer to Walking St. There is a guy renting (Farang) bikes nearly the beginning of Soi 6.

LBMI wouldn't usually post unless I was in country but the hotel you are referring to is called Queen Victoria. The people there are very quick to respond to emails and were good enough to accept western union as payment when I didn't want to pay by visa card.

I'm formulating a plan as back up in case I have to leave during my visit next month and would encourage others go do the same. It's a short flight to Phnom Pehn from BKK and I will go there if the flood is a problem but to be honest I don't think it will be. It's right on the sea right? Pattaya. Drainage won't be any sort of issue.

And also you have to take media reports with a grain of salt. In the end they are trying to get attention and sell newspapers or get ratings. Further more, a friend of mine in Bangkok said that Sukhumvit area is dry and theres a lack of customers. She even asked me to come sooner. LOL

Fck Dick

11-07-11, 02:56

Dickhead

11-07-11, 03:29

"It's right on the sea right? Pattaya. Drainage won't be any sort of issue."

You might want to review such things as gravity, the tendency of water to flow downhill (meaning to sea level), and the tidal wave that leveled Phuket in 2004. Just as a quick review, drainage tends to be more of an issue at sea level as opposed to at higher elevations. Of course, sea level can vary, as was discovered in Phuket in 2004.

For a brief refresher course, google "tsunami Thailand 2004."

Note that if airports are flooded, planes have difficulty taking off, and ground transportation has difficulty arriving at them. You may want to arrange an amphibious vehicle just to hedge your bets.

Hatguy

11-07-11, 04:22

"It's right on the sea right? Pattaya. Drainage won't be any sort of issue."

You might want to review such things as gravity, the tendency of water to flow downhill (meaning to sea level) , and the tidal wave that leveled Phuket in 2004. Just as a quick review, drainage tends to be more Of an issue at sea level as opposed to at higher elevations. Of course, sea level can vary, as was discovered in Phuket in 2004.

For a brief refresher course, google "tsunami Thailand 2004."

Note that if airports are flooded, planes have difficulty taking off, and ground transportation has difficulty arriving at them. You may want to arrange an amphibious vehicle just to hedge your bets.You are right. I just meant as opposed to BKK where there's no sea. Less chance of stagnant water. No idea what a Tsunami has to do with anything but Ill just hope one doesn't come then.

Dickhead

11-07-11, 04:47

I will just assume you are from Perth, and hope that at some point your government decides to adequately fund primary education in that state.

Trawlerman

11-07-11, 05:33

Just to say that I arrived last night. Met by Mr T taxi, which sped me to Pattaya in just over one hour (1000BHT). Staying at the Pattaya Bay Resort (1400 BHT). There is construction work going on in a nearby sort (reported elsewhere) but I can't hear a thing from my room. No sign of flooding anywhere on this side of Bangkok. It's sunny and there is a typical high-season holiday atmosphere. Plenty of girls and plenty of visitors.

Hatguy

11-07-11, 07:00

I will just assume you are from Perth, and hope that at some point your government decides to adequately fund primary education in that state.Hmm thats even more puzzling. Don't know what your on about. Anyway, I for one won't be canceling my trip. More fun for me. I hope the crowds are way down compared to other years. Even a slight reduction welcomed.

Dickhead, if your around late December the first schooners on me. There arent too many states they call them that. Hint hint.

Sexual Healing

11-07-11, 12:42

Who the F knows. Just like none of us can predict the weather for that time.Maybe I didn't make myself clear. Of course I'm not asking anyone to tell exactly how is going to be the weather in Pattaya in two months, but what happened in Bangkok is serious and I think it didn't come out of the blue.

I read something about heavy monsoons blowing east behind this calamity. Maybe they will calm down and weather in Thailand will overall get better, maybe they will rage more furiuosly and it will get worse. I was a weatherman I guess I was dealing with these data and I could forecast something. It's quite is to find a good weather website giving you a proper sun / rain schedule for the next 15 days, but not so to explain in words what happened and how it is going to evolve now, in order to guess a further scenario.

I was just asking this and I was wandering if anybody of you knows a site, a forum or a blog where finding more deteailled information about these issues.

Thanks

BionicMan

11-08-11, 01:10

Maybe I didn't make myself clear. Of course I'm not asking anyone to tell exactly how is going to be the weather in Pattaya in two months, but what happened in Bangkok is serious and I think it didn't come out of the blue.

I read something about heavy monsoons blowing east behind this calamity. Maybe they will calm down and weather in Thailand will overall get better, maybe they will rage more furiuosly and it will get worse. I was a weatherman I guess I was dealing with these data and I could forecast something. It's quite is to find a good weather website giving you a proper sun / rain schedule for the next 15 days, but not so to explain in words what happened and how it is going to evolve now, in order to guess a further scenario.

I was just asking this and I was wandering if anybody of you knows a site, a forum or a blog where finding more deteailled information about these issues.

ThanksThe floods of BKK (some areas, if you look at the map links repeatedly psoted here you will see that as bas as it can be, only part of BKK is wet) have been sort of manually induced to preserve other areas. This is the reason why some areas are dry and some are massively flooded.

I am not an expert but in a pinch I'd say that if they let the whole of BKK be flooded, maybe 20cm of water will be everywhere, rather than having 1mt or more in some "selected" areas.

Crazy4Thai

11-08-11, 03:22

Hi guys,

I was just about to buy plane ticket and make hotel reservation for my holiday in Pattaya in early Jan 2012 when I froze hearing critic news.

May thai flood jeopardize it all now? I know bad weather didn't affect Pattaya at the moment, but would clouds and rains move there in the next weeks?

It seems it has been raining for months in Thailand, how long is it going to last?

I don't want to run ten thousand miles and concern about the weather. I want my sun!

Anybody got a link to accurate wheater forecast in Pattaya in order to monitor situation there?

I'm also scared of price hikes and I wouldn't like to wait for weeks before buying my plane ticket to see if it's getting better because I'd rather avoid possible further increases.

Thanks for your support.Just to generalize a bit about weather patterns in Thailand. I've lived here for 5 years. By January we "should" be well into the dry season. I would not worry about it if I had a trip planned. Of course you have to make your own decision. As for price hikes, well one would think that airfare might drop if seats are not selling. So far that has not been the case so who knows? It's my impression that hotel prices are currently inflated because of the massive influx of people fleeing Bangkok. That might impact you if you book your hotel now. If it was me I would not book my room until just before arrival.

C4T

Devilspinkick

11-08-11, 04:59

Betong

11-08-11, 14:49

I read something about heavy monsoons blowing east behind this calamity.Huh? Rainy season is well and fully over in central Thailand. The water now working its way through outer Bangkok is from rain literally months ago. None of which has any effect in Pattaya. Sunny and dry here, with plenty of drinking water, beer, and pussy.

I do understand newbies' concerns given some of the silly fear-mongering still coming out. But seriously, the scene is Pattaya is perfectly fine now. Bit of a buyer's market in fact, which is a rare luxury in the high season.

Sexual Healing

11-08-11, 19:39

The water now working its way through outer Bangkok is from rain literally months ago. None of which has any effect in Pattaya.We are basically saying the same thing. I meant the flood is a consequence of heavy rains fallen months ago.

And I know Pattaya is fine now.

BUT critic situation may change in the following weeks and move from Bangkok to the coast and to Pattaya as well. That is my concern.

@Bionicman.

Thanks for explanation. Didn't know that.

@C4T.

Yes, of course I don't need to book a hotel now, there are plenty of cheap ones I can find on the spot, but it's about time to book a ticket plane and there are not so many at cheap rates and good conditions (short stopovers for example). My idea is that tickets are inflated as well, but I can't guess if they rise more or go down now.

Fast Eddie 48

11-08-11, 20:24

i'm flying to bkk next week. of course upon landing i will immediately transfer to pattaya so a flooded bangkok will be of little significance to me. exchanged some currency today & cathay pacific still has my flights confirmed so all is good as far as i know.

i actually think that there may be a better & larger selection of ladies available in pattaya at this time due to the flooded main city. who knows, i just wish the best for the thai people and i plan to have a damn good time.

btw. anyone know how the bliss lounge compares with [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)? which place is better for an oral "release"?

- dskto devilspinkick.

cathay pacific cancel some flight because many hk tourist cancel trip to bangkok many flight is only half full, there are good deal now on flight from hk to bangkok for only around 100 usd from tour company and tour package 4 night for as low as 240 usd with hotel, better check with airline before heading to the airport.

fast eddie 48

Butter69

11-09-11, 00:24

Dear Senior members,

I was wondering if there is any Russian / Ukrainian / Uzbek girls (sex workers) are available in Pattaya? If yes, where can I find them? What are their going rates? Are there any special hotels where they stay?

Thanks in advanceHi.

When I visited Pattaya a few months ago, I saw some of these girls trying to pick up customers from Walking st. They were all freelancers. Not sure what they charge though.

Also, there is a disco called Marine very close to Walking st, which is full of arabs. I've also seen some girls there too

Ekspat

11-09-11, 02:54

BUT critic situation may change in the following weeks and move from Bangkok to the coast and to Pattaya as well.IMHO the floods can never reach Pattaya, it's just too far away.

Arrived in BKK yesterday, staying in Sukhumvit Soi 20, perfectly dry here, train from airport and MRT all was fine, but most buildings have sandbags in front of lower entrances as precaution. Anyway, who knows what to come? I don't. But I assume inner Bangkok west of the river will remain dry.

PinkPearl

11-09-11, 03:01

Dear Senior members,

I was wondering if there is any Russian / Ukrainian / Uzbek girls (sex workers) are available in Pattaya? If yes, where can I find them? What are their going rates? Are there any special hotels where they stay?

Thanks in advancePlaces to go and find Euro or Russian pussy:

http://www.pattayai.com/pattaya-nightlife/review-clubs-galaxy.php

"Then you probably haven't been to Galaxy, a club with a difference. That difference is namely the girls, as you won't find anyone asking you 'where you come from mister? ' – none of the ladies here are Thai.

"Rather, they are all white and seem to emanate largely from eastern Europe."

http://www.pattayai.com/pattaya-nightlife/review-clubs-galaxy.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifJl9IFCsOU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Y4S7n_SnJHo

Russian Dancer B52 niteclub Pattaya Thailand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nFjPLmKStU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uzr7j2dlWo&feature=related

Pattaya. The Moulin Rouge a Hostess of sexy Russia. (5/5)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn1uDc-3f5A&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=c0XzWmgtXJY

Sexy Russian Girls Arses Walking street Pattaya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=3WmVpN3LA2g

Other Russians.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Eed98dh6CuU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=9h1yMCCaQ9g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=M6Ivw34hZxs

Betong

11-09-11, 05:33

IMHO the floods can never reach Pattaya, it's just too far away.Exactly. It's on the ocean and nowhere near the Cao Phraya river basin. There is zero chance of floods 'moving' to Pattaya.

Stakeout

11-09-11, 13:37

The quality of girls can change rapidly on the gogo scene of Pattaya.

So what gogos currently have the best lineup, in your opinion? And why?

Hotman 666

11-09-11, 14:35

The quality of girls can change rapidly on the gogo scene of Pattaya.

So what gogos currently have the best lineup, in your opinion? And why?Stakeout,

That is a rather difficult question to answer. A Go–Go that was GREAT one evening with everyone having a good time can be like a 'Wet Wednesday in Wigan' (or Wuppertal) the next night.

Also, What, for YOU constitutes the “best line up?”
Looks, attitude, raunchiness? We all have our particular likes and dislikes!
All us guys like something different! Atmosphere, Music, Girls, even PRICES!!! What one guy likes another will absolutely hate!

I am only an 'occasional visitor' to Pattaya but each time I arrive I have to check out quite a few Go-Go's until I find one that has, for me, a 'good vibe. ' THAT EVENING.
Even then, if I go back a day or so later the atmosphere may well be completely different! Or, perhaps it is that MY mood changes and it is ME that looks for something different?

So, there is NO Go-Go that is ALLWAYS 'best' for every guy. You just have to check a few out.

But, thinking about it, isn't that what makes it so much FUN?

You DO find some hidden gems tucked away in the most unlikely places sometimes.

Enjoy,

I always do!

Hotman.

Woofiee

11-09-11, 17:09

Places to go and find Euro or Russian pussy:

http://www.pattayai.com/pattaya-nightlife/review-clubs-galaxy.php

"Then you probably haven't been to Galaxy, a club with a difference. That difference is namely the girls, as you won't find anyone asking you 'where you come from mister? ' – none of the ladies here are Thai.

"Rather, they are all white and seem to emanate largely from eastern Europe."Honestly, the Russians have a bad reputation for being far too expensive and the bars are full of touts. Lots of scams, so never go to one of these alone.

Fck Dick

11-10-11, 00:50

Honestly, the Russians have a bad reputation for being far too expensive and the bars are full of touts. Lots of scams, so never go to one of these alone.What are their price ranges?

Devilspinkick

11-10-11, 01:27

To Devilspinkick.

Cathay pacific cancel some flight because many HK tourist cancel trip to Bangkok many flight is only half full, there are good deal now on flight from HK to Bangkok for only around 100 USD from tour company and tour package 4 night for as low as 240 USD with hotel, better check with airline before heading to the airport.

Fast Eddie 48Yeh, I've heard the same thing but there are still flights going to BKK. Just not as many. So I figure at the worst I might get bumped to a different flight for either arrival or departure. Not so bad of a thing as long as I get there. Maybe I'll get a longer layover in Hong Kong and have more time to visit that place also. At this point I prefer not to stress about it and just take things as they come. This will be my fifth trip to the LOS but it's been way too long since my last visit. Look forward to being the "meat" of a Thai hottie sandwich.

- DSK

Hatguy

11-11-11, 02:14

Cunning Stunt

11-11-11, 04:03

I'm wanting to arrange a three way at a beer bar. Does anyone have a recommended beer bar to do this at? I know of the devils den but think it's kinda expensive and would prefer to go the beer bar route. Anyone got a recommendation? I'm just into the usual shag and it might be interesting if the girls get a bit into each other too but not a deal breaker if they don't.I'd suggest checking out Beach Road first. Quality is as good, if not better than Beer Bars and girls are often to be found in pairs. Plus, negotiation is more private and its much cheaper in case it doesn't work out. But for the ultimate 3sum, you have to reach into your pocket and try the Devils Den experience. Just don't pick Bobi. She is a waste of time and a nasty piece of work to boot.

You might also try Soi 6.

Mr Enternational

11-11-11, 06:25

I'm wanting to arrange a three way at a beer bar. Does anyone have a recommended beer bar to do this at? I know of the devils den but think it's kinda expensive and would prefer to go the beer bar route. Anyone got a recommendation? I'm just into the usual shag and it might be interesting if the girls get a bit into each other too but not a deal breaker if they don't.As CS said, your best bet is Beach Road. Just go grab 2 of them for 500 baht each and call it a day.

So to sum it up:

Beach Road: 1000
Soi 6 : 2000
Disco FL : 2000*
Beer Bar : 2600
Devil's Den : 3000
Soapy : 3600
Agogo : 5200

*Very difficult to get FL in discos to do 3 somes, but I have seen it done.

Hatguy

11-11-11, 08:05

Many thanks to both of you for the advice.

Reshma

11-11-11, 09:34

Hi.

This is Paresh and Reshma wants to visit phuket and Bangkok, early December, Can somebody help us to know the current situation?

Thanks,

Paresh

Luvpuss

11-11-11, 21:38

Hi.

This is Paresh and Reshma wants to visit phuket and Bangkok, early December, Can somebody help us to know the current situation?

Thanks,

PareshOMG. The current situation of what?

Sammon

11-11-11, 23:23

Hi.

This is Paresh and Reshma wants to visit phuket and Bangkok, early December, Can somebody help us to know the current situation?

Thanks,

PareshAre you looking for current situation in finding girls in Phuket?

If so read the forum. It is as current as it gets.

Fun And Sun

11-12-11, 00:17

Hi.

This is Paresh and Reshma wants to visit phuket and Bangkok, early December, Can somebody help us to know the current situation?

Thanks,

PareshCurrent situation in Phuket and Bangkok is, currently, being discussed in the Phuket and Bangkok thread and not in the Pattaya thread...

Ekspat

11-12-11, 03:40

This is Paresh and Reshma wants to visit phuket and Bangkok, early December, Can somebody help us to know the current situation?Since there is flooding around Bangkok, and Phuket is nearby, it's only 1 hour by flight, Phuket is 3 feet under water.

Believe me, terrible there.

Showdown

11-12-11, 06:13

One of the members of the board mentioned the Pattaya Noble Place chain so I tried out the location at Soi Post office. The rooms were all very new and had nice, large patios. My room faced a back wall but that was nice because it was so quiet. Paid 600 baht and its a short walk to Walking Street and is in the middle of all of the street action on Beach Road. The only drawback is the stairs are a bit of a hike and very steep. No walk of shame as there is a separate door entrance.

Highly recommended. http://www.pattayanobleplace.com/ Noble Place 1 is where I stayed.

StudFarm

11-12-11, 11:07

WE are planning a visit to Pattaya in Feb 12. Which are the good hotels very near to Walking street. 4 or 5 star atleast 3. Should be girl friendly also.

Thanks.

Years back Sabailand was the best massage place. Now which is the best?

Thanks in advance

PolyOrchid

11-12-11, 11:54

Yeh, I've heard the same thing but there are still flights going to BKK. Just not as many. So I figure at the worst I might get bumped to a different flight for either arrival or departure. Not so bad of a thing as long as I get there. Maybe I'll get a longer layover in Hong Kong and have more time to visit that place also. At this point I prefer not to stress about it and just take things as they come. This will be my fifth trip to the LOS but it's been way too long since my last visit. Look forward to being the "meat" of a Thai hottie sandwich.

- DSKDSK, I was scanning the posts and saw your name, initials at the bottom and immediately thought our board had been blessed with France's noble monger, Monsieur Strauss-Kahn.

Nice initials.

Uncle Volodya

11-12-11, 17:48

Places to go and find Euro or Russian pussy:

[

Other Russians.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Eed98dh6CuU

[Personally I don't see the point of going all the way to Thailand to look for Russian girls. Then again if I ran into the one in the above video I'd probably change my mind very fast. LOL

Wolvenvacht

11-12-11, 18:09

Since there is flooding around Bangkok, and Phuket is nearby, it's only 1 hour by flight, Phuket is 3 feet under water.

Believe me, terrible there.I say, you better bring latex condoms than rubber boots.

Devilspinkick

11-12-11, 20:49

DSK, I was scanning the posts and saw your name, initials at the bottom and immediately thought our board had been blessed with France's noble monger, Monsieur Strauss-Kahn.

Nice initials.Yeh, some folks in the Germany forums mentioned the connection to Dominique as well. Being an American bloke I didn't know what they were talking about at first, LOL. Also, I'm not a powerful politician or anything so I couldn't get away with molesting women (nor would I want to). However, I do have sufficient dough to trot the globe and sample a variety of dames.

La vie est belle, oui?

- DSK

Tqq776

11-13-11, 08:19

The Scout

11-14-11, 04:09

hello, isg members,

i would really appreciate any words of wisdom you might have to share. i had a minor scooter accident an hour ago in pattaya with my rented motobike. the good news is that no one was injured, it wasn't a collision, i was just stupid and tried to ride in the side drainage area. anyways i walked away with a few scrapes and a bruised ego, but the bike has some damage, scratches on the side. it rides fine though.

i want to pay for it, but i don't want to be extorted for every penny i have. how should i go about dealing with the rental company? can anyone help?

tqqi recommend finding a mityon shop that sells bikes and ask where their repair shop is. they are the big motorbike shops that usually say mityon. ask for a quote first. feel free to go to a few places for quotes but i doubt you'll need to. sometimes it's next door, other times it's across the street. you could always wash the bike first at a car wash or gas station so they can see all of the damage. i had a foreigner friend dump his bike and his total was 800 baht to replace the parts and free alignment. another person got hit by a car, was given false insurance and phone number info, and the total repair on a brand new bike was 2000 baht. i would assume your damage would cost 500-2500 baht.

LittleBigMan

11-14-11, 04:41

I recommend finding a Mityon shop that sells bikes and ask where their repair shop is. They are the big motorbike shops that usually say Mityon. Ask for a quote first. Feel free to go to a few places for quotes but I doubt you'll need to. Sometimes it's next door, other times it's across the street. You could always wash the bike first at a car wash or gas station so they can see all of the damage. I had a foreigner friend dump his bike and his total was 800 baht to replace the parts and free alignment. Another person got hit by a car, was given false insurance and phone number info, and the total repair on a brand new bike was 2000 baht. I would assume your damage would cost 500-2500 baht.This is good advice and although it really has to do with who you actually rented the bike from? If it is parts that need to be replaced Mityon can easily do that for you but if the side painted panels are scratch and damage (dented) then it will cost you more because it will have to be painted. Many times they already have the panels available and painted since it is very standard. But first take some water and clean the area off. If you have a sponge and some liquor soap with water just to scrub off some of the scratches if you can? Or take it to one of those car washes, bikes are normally 80 baht to have it washed and armor all and if you wanted it wax 100 baht total.

In the end, you can do as noted already and get a estimate and present it to the rental shop and even negotiate the price down since many if minior doesn't affect the running of the bike wouldn't even fix it. If the shop is very small and the bike doesn't have a lot of miles (KM) it is most likely on a payment plan and will end up a repo that goes back to Mityon and go on sale again?

LBM

HangerOne

11-14-11, 12:27

Personally I don't see the point of going all the way to Thailand to look for Russian girls. Then again if I ran into the one in the above video I'd probably change my mind very fast. LOLI don't care where on earth I were, I would pick her up LOL.

Member #4152

11-14-11, 13:20

1st. So the 1st thing I noticed in Pattaya was the traffic. After an hour drive from Bangkok airport to Pattaya, traffic was pretty awful but I survived. After settling in at my hotel, I took a long walk around Pattaya visiting Hard Rock Hotel, The Hilton as well as checking out the prospects on Soi 6.

2nd. The 2nd thing I noticed was a lot of older men and by a lot, I mean a lot! LOL. Pattaya almost has a senior citizen or retirement home kind of feel to it. Who can blame them though, Pattaya has a lot of girls that would want to take care of them.

3rd. The 3rd thing I noticed was a lot of homeless looking people and I mean a lot! It was pretty bad.

4th. The 4th thing I noticed was the number of European people! Mainly Russians and the British! I'm not saying any of this stuff is bad. Just wanted to set expectations for other first time mongers from the states.

I'll be hitting up Walking Street tonight! Report back later guys!

Pagal Chacha

11-14-11, 15:29

Arriving at Svarnabhumi Airport at 19:10 hrs on 2nd December anyone intrested in sharing a taxi to Pattaya around that time PM me

Luvpuss

11-14-11, 15:50

Redfield10

11-14-11, 16:48

Luvpuss

11-14-11, 18:26

Jgm005

11-14-11, 19:29

This is the one part of Mr. T Taxi that is an issue with me and that is a confirmation email. I have used him many times in the past and have experienced this same issue. For me, I will resend it and even call to get that confirmation.

I am trying to make a reservation with Mr. T Taxi via email for this coming Saturday for a ride to Pattaya at 10:45. I did receive an email back asking for my last name, but then no real confirmation. Shall I assume I'm confirned? I sent two follow ups but haven't heard back. Any advice? Thanks.

They need to do a better job about returning emails.

Michi

11-14-11, 20:23

This is the one part of Mr. T Taxi that is an issue with me and that is a confirmation email. I have used him many times in the past and have experienced this same issue. For me, I will resend it and even call to get that confirmation.Alternatively you can also try Keak Taxi 1000 going to PTY. 900 back. Pretty reliable as well. Never had trouble.

BKK Dreaming

11-14-11, 22:21

I am trying to make a reservation with Mr. T Taxi via email for this coming Saturday for a ride to Pattaya at 10:45. I did receive an email back asking for my last name, but then no real confirmation. Shall I assume I'm confirned? I sent two follow ups but haven't heard back. Any advice? Thanks.

They need to do a better job about returning emails.Thai companies are the worst when it comes to answering emails,

They need to put cell numbers as I bet they answer SMS quicker!

BK

Nixonbd

11-15-11, 01:57

Thai companies are the worst when it comes to answering emails,

They need to put cell numbers as I bet they answer SMS quicker!

BKAnother alternative; http://www.thelimopattaya.com/

On-line booking and quick confirmation, very reliable. 1200 baht to Pattaya. 1000 baht for return.

Gaolei

11-15-11, 05:02

Alternatively you can also try Keak Taxi 1000 going to PTY. 900 back. Pretty reliable as well. Never had trouble.Keak is at http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/ And mobile phone 081-3401365. I have used them at 3AM to get back to BKK, no problem. They are reliable and cheap.

Priamos

11-15-11, 05:58

1st. So the 1st thing I noticed in Pattaya was the traffic. After an hour drive from Bangkok airport to Pattaya, traffic was pretty awful but I survived.This is a result of the floodings in Bangkok. A number of more well-healed residents of the capital have fled down the coast. They say Pattaya's hotels are pretty much fully booked for this reason. The taxi driver who took me to the airport from Pattaya a few days back was moaning loudly about "all the bloody bangkokers".

As for the rest of your "reservations" about Pattaya, well, there's a lot of Russian people, but they come mostly with their wives / girlfriends for a few weeks on the beach. I don't think the men do much mongering and I don't think the women offer themselves for sale. The exception to the last point is a few joints around the Walking Street, but they are also by far the most expensive venues in town.

As for my own experience in Pattaya, well, I got laid around 15 times in a week, so I cannot complain about the recreational value of the place. I would, however, say that these things tend to get boring after a while."Hello, handsome maaaan!" "Massage, massage!" "Where you goooing?" Many Pattaya veterans have solved the problem by finding themselves a girlfriend who caters to their daily needs, but (1) I usually don't stay for long enough to do that; and (2) I haven't the temper to spend breakfast and dinner with a mercenary. Instead I found myself drifting into ordinary bars and restaurants and try to fish out those women who can usually not be bar-fined. Simply for the sport and curiosity value of it.

My greatest find was the 30 yo manager of a bar on 2nd road (close to Soi Diana). She was extremely petite and actually not pretty. After midnight and with her bar hastily emptying she agreed to join me for a drink. It didn't take much persuasion to make her forego the remaining tips and come with me to my nearby hotel (Tim Boutique). She was very hot in bed. Most Thai girls tend to fuck you once or twice and then turn over in bed,"I want to sleep. Leave me alone". With this lady it was the opposite. I could not move one inch in my sleep before she grabbed my hand and started snugging me. After a couple of rebuttals she even allowed me to use her rear entry. I say "allow" in the sense of lying still and whimpering while I thrust myself at her hole. By now she obviously decided that I had a domination fetich, so started to weep while I pumped her rear, although there was evidently space enough and she was far from a virgin. After five minutes of beautiful acting she even managed to produce tears. After I had exploded inside her fanny I pointed to her wet eyes and smiled "nice show, honey". She grinned mischievously behind the tears and whispered "but you liked it, yes?"

This was my best experience in Pattaya this time round. So good that, contrary to my habits, I went back to the same woman on the next night (my last in patts). But, alas, that night was Loy Kratong and the bar had a party from which my little backdoor friend could not detach herself. Ah well, better luck next time.

Redfield10

11-15-11, 06:00

After about 6 emails I finally got a confirmation. I mean, all they have to say is "your reservation is confirmed. We will have a sign with your name outside of arrival Gate 3."

Sheesh

Syzygies

11-15-11, 09:02

<cut> She came within 30 seconds, and she squealed about siaow leew. She pulled away from me, unable to take any physical contact for 60 seconds or so.Nice "in depth". If she had said "set laeew", it means she finished (orgasmed) already. Normally,"siaow laeew" means she is getting worked up or excited, but in this case could mean she is too sensitive to be touched. So it would be better attached to the 2nd sentence about pulling away.

Just included this note for those who don't know much Thai yet.

Member #4152

11-15-11, 10:17

This is a result of the floodings in Bangkok. A number of more well-healed residents of the capital have fled down the coast. They say Pattaya's hotels are pretty much fully booked for this reason. The taxi driver who took me to the airport from Pattaya a few days back was moaning loudly about "all the bloody bangkokers".

As for the rest of your "reservations" about Pattaya, well, there's a lot of Russian people, but they come mostly with their wives / girlfriends for a few weeks on the beach. I don't think the men do much mongering and I don't think the women offer themselves for sale. The exception to the last point is a few joints around the Walking Street, but they are also by far the most expensive venues in town.

As for my own experience in Pattaya, well, I got laid around 15 times in a week, so I cannot complain about the recreational value of the place. I would, however, say that these things tend to get boring after a while."Hello, handsome maaaan!" "Massage, massage!" "Where you goooing?" Many Pattaya veterans have solved the problem by finding themselves a girlfriend who caters to their daily needs, but (1) I usually don't stay for long enough to do that; and (2) I haven't the temper to spend breakfast and dinner with a mercenary. Instead I found myself drifting into ordinary bars and restaurants and try to fish out those women who can usually not be bar-fined. Simply for the sport and curiosity value of it.

My greatest find was the 30 yo manager of a bar on 2nd road (close to Soi Diana). She was extremely petite and actually not pretty. After midnight and with her bar hastily emptying she agreed to join me for a drink. It didn't take much persuasion to make her forego the remaining tips and come with me to my nearby hotel (Tim Boutique). She was very hot in bed. Most Thai girls tend to fuck you once or twice and then turn over in bed,"I want to sleep. Leave me alone". With this lady it was the opposite. I could not move one inch in my sleep before she grabbed my hand and started snugging me. After a couple of rebuttals she even allowed me to use her rear entry. I say "allow" in the sense of lying still and whimpering while I thrust myself at her hole. By now she obviously decided that I had a domination fetich, so started to weep while I pumped her rear, although there was evidently space enough and she was far from a virgin. After five minutes of beautiful acting she even managed to produce tears. After I had exploded inside her fanny I pointed to her wet eyes and smiled "nice show, honey". She grinned mischievously behind the tears and whispered "but you liked it, yes?"

This was my best experience in Pattaya this time round. So good that, contrary to my habits, I went back to the same woman on the next night (my last in patts). But, alas, that night was Loy Kratong and the bar had a party from which my little backdoor friend could not detach herself. Ah well, better luck next time.Great post! I actually enjoyed reading it! I think I want to try the back door tonight LOL!

Keeniu

11-15-11, 11:32

I say, you better bring latex condoms than rubber boots.Pile of rubbish. Phuket is not wet / under water nor is Pattaya.

Well heeled BKK'ers can afford Pattaya Hotels, but there will be a lesser class feeling the pinch come the successful draining, then a 6 Billion dollar cleanup bill and the stench that follows. If follows that the helpers won't be raising cash near the family in case they are spotted.

What I like is Giotto's comments that is a buyers market in BKK because girls are helping out. Its not exactly as bad as I hoped for yet, but with more cancelled flights, things may become less lopsided. I am sure price will re-stimulate demand.

I am excited as another 3 weeks should see lots of 'new entrants' in the market raising cash to help out family. This should take some of the sting out of high season, and hopefully spread to Patts.

So any chance of Patts becoming more of a buyers market?

Thailand. The Other Venice <<<

Trawlerman

11-15-11, 17:20

(for old hands: there's nothing new here. just thought i'd liven up the forum with a full report.)

when you arrive in a place at 11pm, what is there to do? well, in pattaya, a hell of a lot. the gogo bars are open until 3 or 4am, and they only get going at about 9pm, so it's before the half-way point. i headed straight over to walking street for the top-of-the-range what's up. i have fond memories of this place from a few years ago, arriving relatively early and getting lots of attention from some very nice-looking girls. this time the place is humming. there's hardly a place to sit, but i'm found somewhere by the bathtub where a nice round soap-covered ass is sliding back and forth on the ledge right next to me. within seconds, i'm fingering a sweet and very clean pussy between that ass. it's good to be back! the thing you have to know about what's up is that half the girls are dancers only. no sex available. they will come and sit with you for drinks, which can become expensive quickly at 160bt a shot. so best to ask first, if you want her for later. (i'd forgotten this, but i was told by a chatty aussie bloke who sat next to me and seemed to know everyone.)

i went on to a few other places but i wasn't ready to pay gogo prices just yet. (what's up has a 1000bt bar fine; others are 600-700bt) i was more interested in freelance action to start things off. with hindsight, i should probably have headed for the mixx (one x or two?). the disco at the far end of ws. which has fls in droves, and some nice ones at that. but i went in the other direction, along beach road, probably because of memories of picking up some gems there on previous visits. i found one young-looking 20yo who tickled my fancy and off we went back to the pattaya bay resort. that's quite a trek. the thing about the pbr is that it is along the featureless soi 15 that bends around from 2nd road back behind the avenue. they have a taxi that will take you to 2nd road from the hotel but getting back is a bit of a pain unless you have the use of a phone to call them. well, it's not so bad, but less convenient that my previous digs at the queen vic in soi 6, which is a lot further from ws but much easier to get to and from because of the bhat buses.

the br girl was a nice start. she had on these very child-like shorts with teddy bears and the like. made the whole thing seem slightly taboo, although she was perfectly legal. slightly built thai girls are good the cute frog-like pose on hands and knees and tummy to the bed. that's the image i still have of her. on her way out the pbr front desk called up to my room to check that everything was ok. nice touch.

i was knackered from the flight so i didn't go out again that night. the next day, i was up fairly early thanks to jet lag. by midday i was horny as anything, knowing that i was surrounded by more available pussy per square mile than anywhere else on the planet. (is that true? comments anyone?) i had a plan that may seem odd. but the thing is, i like to be teased a bit. so i went along to dream teen (soi 21) for their 90 minute "oil and ball massage" (550bt) with the idea of not coming and then heading just around the corner to [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) for a quick and seedy bbbjcim (700bt). picked out dee from the dream teen line-up (looking very cute in green). she did a great sensual oil massage, plus the ball thing, which is basically a teasing hand-job although not to completion unless you go for a "special". i don't know what the cost of the "special" is. the fs option has been reported here, but there is also hj and bj, which are presumably less. clearly, not to have the special was unusual. dee was pretty disappointed because she only gets 40bt of the 550bt fee on the assumption that she'll make much more in "specials". i gave her a 100bt tip to make up for some of the disappointment. well, i was very aroused by this stage, as planned, but the [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) finish was not to be. i went there but at 2pm the selection was very poor. (apparently, there would be more girls at 4pm.) plan b was to return to my old haunt. soi 6. always good for some afternoon action. i was not disappointed by bong (beng? bang?) , a slightly chubby young cutey who gave the required bbbjcim with greater skill than her youthful looks suggested she was capable of. all this with her fully clothed and me naked, which i like for a bj. she is a good kisser too. fs was included in the 1000bt price (700bt plus 300bt for the room) but i much preferred to go for the bj finish that i had planned. (can't remember which bar on soi 6. sorry. by strategy is just to walk along the soi, avoiding the lbs and scanning the groups of girls for one i like. i never return to a particular bar.)

seeing as this was just a stop-over, i wanted to fit in all my favourite thai street-food snacks, so meals between sex sessions consisted of pad thai, som tam, khao mun kai, etc. another fill-in is the traditional thai massage. the place i remembered from before is just off (10m or so) pattaya tai (the road heading inland just outside the gates of ws) on the first soi you come to on the left after the big temple. (incidentally, there is a night market in front of the temple with lots of good eats and relatively uninflated prices. i picked up a good leather belt for 100bt. no haggling necessary.) the massage lady is on the right. she is a devotee of dharmakaya and has dmc tv on all the time. she has been doing this for 30-odd years (possibly more) and has many pupils. two hours later i am walking on clouds.

a shower back at the hotel, and i'm ready for the gogo bars again. eventually settle on tae from super girl. moving well to the music, swaying her tight little ass and slightly pointy breasts, with long wavy hair, witchy eyes and full pouty lips. i was just about to leave the place when i saw her and so gambled on a good time without the usual chat first. the mammasan said she was inexperienced, having only arrived a month ago. i've been in this situation before. inexperienced has its plusses if you don't expect something different, and anyway, i just wanted that girl. as expected she was not that enthusiastic about sucking (and only with condom) and didn't want me to lick her. but still the sight of those lips on my dick made it all worthwhile. the thing that would have really put me off would have been a shy girl who was obviously not enjoying herself. tae was not that. she has spirit and a sexy cheekiness, sticking out her tongue and play hitting me if i tried something she didn't want. and her pussy was so fresh and tight. the kind that makes you want to come immediately. the damage: 700 bf + 2000 for her. on the expensive side but par for the course in the higher-end bars. i went back to ws and on to the mixx. after an invigorating shot of chocolate vodka in the ice bar with a polar bear. never really explored the mixx before. it was heaving, and there were plenty of opportunities for fl pick-ups, with the general standard a fair bit higher than br. but at that point jet lag hit me and i crawled back to the hotel alone.

my last day. i extended my room until 6. 30pm for half the day rate, mainly because i just wanted to relax a bit, do some laundry, and catch up with things online. but i couldn't leave without one more taste of thai pussy. this time, i didn't want to go hunting, so i was thinking of going for a soapie. but then i got a good idea. devil's den do outcalls, i remembered, and what could be a nicer way to spend my last afternoon than with a pair of sexy maids coming to my room? i checked out the girl's profiles online and made a short list. of the five i selected, three were available, and i picked gik and cory. the service is expensive (4000bt) but well worth it (to me). both girls were just as appealing in person as on the website. and cory especially, had a wonderfully sensual body with smooth skin and just the right amount of padding to make for a perfect coupling. they looked very sexy in their matching maid's outfits. black with white trim and fishnets and heels. which they kept on (at my request) throughout most of the session. (no panties, so easy access, and tits slipped out easily.)

i've you've had a dd threesome before, you'll know what it was like. otherwise, it's just as they advertise: like you are the director in your own porn film. the girls were very clever and ensuring safety (fresh condoms, antibaterial gels, etc) without it ever seeming forced. i had them kneeling on the floor sucking me together while i was sitting on the bed. 69ing each other while i stroked and kissed and fondled, on sitting on my face while the other sucked me, and of course i gave each of them a good fucking separately, in all available holes, while the other caressed and kissed. i'm sure that it would have been ok to have two shots, but it would have been a big effort for me to make the second after the past 48 hours, so i preferred to keep the tension until the end. but then how to finish? i would have loved to come in cory's mouth. she has a great sucking action and a cute, slightly freckled face. and spraying over two girl's faces would leave one with a great porn snapshot to go away with. (incidentally, no photos during outcalls. so only mental snapshots allowed.) in the end, though, i decided to come in cory's pussy from behind, wrapped around her very nice ass, while fondling gik's ass and kissing them alternately. awesome way to finish a two-day break in thailand. an hour later, i was on the bell travel bus (200bt) back to the airport.

David 2

11-15-11, 19:51

I am trying to make a reservation with Mr. T Taxi via email for this coming Saturday for a ride to Pattaya at 10:45. I did receive an email back asking for my last name, but then no real confirmation. Shall I assume I'm confirned? I sent two follow ups but haven't heard back. Any advice? Thanks.

They need to do a better job about returning emails.I've used Mr. Keak at Pattaya Taxi more than 15 times, and he's reliable, dependable, and inexpensive. His driver waits for you at the airport holding a sign with your name, and 90 minutes later you're at your Pattaya hotel safe and sound. Highly recommended.

http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/

Uncle Volodya

11-15-11, 19:53

(For old hands: there's nothing new here. Just thought I'd liven up the forum with a full report.)Thanks for the post Trawler! It was really fun to relive some of my own memories through your report. A welcome break from all the bickering and ST vs LT discussion that is dominating the board lately.

Crazy4Thai

11-16-11, 14:29

After about 6 emails I finally got a confirmation. I mean, all they have to say is "your reservation is confirmed. We will have a sign with your name outside of arrival Gate 3."

SheeshYou have no fucking idea. Try living here.

Member #4152

11-17-11, 00:49

I'd like to give Stakeout a shout out for being a great guide and teaching me a lot about the mongering scene in Pattaya. He gave me info on Walking Street, Soi 6, Soi Honey and Soi Diana. Plus it was fun hanging out with another monger and having a wingman!

The first night, we hit went to several Go Go Bars on Walking Street as well as the regular bars where you play games with the girl you're interested in. It reminded me a lot of Angeles except pricier. As the night went on, picking a girl that met my standards became harder and harder because the good ones almost always get bar fined early leaving the average and lower. With my options decreasing by the minute, I decided to choose a young spinner from one of those big red bar areas. I choose her because she was cute, young and had a nice attitude. After the bar fine, we went clubbing at 2 or 3 different Discos. It was very fun because I like to dance and party. I had "Stakeout" a veteran monger with me and we randomly met up with two of her friends in the club too. After the disco, things started to go downhill. She was pretty much a dead fish in bed and wouldn't let me stick it in all the way. I made due with the situation and I managed to get her really wet and horny. Eventually she let me go in all the way and began to give out half hearted moans. You could tell she was trying to hold in the moans but she was having a hard time. I felt she went about twice before I unloaded in her. It was all covered of course because of all the warnings I've been receiving about the increase in Aids in the country. I won't and will not repeat. I saw her on the second night as well. She wanted to play a game with me but I told her no. I forgot what the bar or area was called but hopefully Stakeout can shed some info on it?

L. I'll give her a 6 before I went to be and a 4 after LOL. For some reason, they always look better when I barfine them and they have their clothes on. She was a bit chubbier than I expected with pretty small, deflated boobs. She says her age was 20 which is very believable.

S. Everything leading up to the sex was good which deserves a 8. With great chemistry and a very fun night, I was fooled into thinking we would have a great time in bed. I think I'll rate her a 4 in this category because I pretty much had to do all the work while she got to enjoy 2 climax's that I had to work and pay for LOL. I really should stay away from the young ones!

A. 6. She was really friendly and nice. I couldn't give her a negative score because it wasn't bad.

Member #4152

11-17-11, 01:12

This time, I hit up walking street by myself like a big boy! I started the night by going to a few Go Go bars like baccarat. I had a hard time choosing a girl that met my higher standards and it didn't help that I started really late because of a late night nap. With slim pickings again, I ended up in another bar area, the one further down on the right side. I'm sure you vets know what I'm talking about. I had a really good time at this bar with a girl that I thought had a great face with a decent body. Playing Jinga, Shoot the Box and Connect Four was fun! I was also buying her shots of Jack Daniels at like $120 Baht a pop? I think it was worth it compared to buying her a girly or fruity drink. With her a bit tipsy and her grinding away on my privates, mama offered her to my at $300 Baht to barfine and $1500 for longtime. I know Stakeout said $1000 is more than enough for a longtime but I forgot and we really had good chemistry. Plus the mama was actually really nice to me so I agreed. Just like the previous night, we hit up the discos again. We drank a lot and by a lot, I mean a lot! One of the main reasons why I choose her was because she could dance and I was not disappointed at all by her. She really got me in the mood with a above average booty grinding on me all night long!

Eventually, around 3am, we jumped on a truck and went to a near by mini mart where she picked up a tooth brush. I thought that was pretty cool of her LOL. Then we stopped by another bar area right outside of my hotel LK Renaissance to have a few more drinks. We were both pretty drunk at this point. After we got to my room, we both took separate showers and got it on. It was much more enjoyable and better than the previous night. She allowed almost everything. I also got one pop in at night and another the next morning which I really didn't want to do because I wanted to save my mojo and spread my blessings to as many girls as possible LOL.

L. 7.5 Her face deserves a 7. 5 but her body gets a 5. She had decent size natural boobs. They were a bit saggy because she had a kid a few years back. She also had some belly fat due to giving birth as well. Her holes were all still pretty tight and in good shape LOL. I could tell she use to be pretty darn hot back before her child. She says she's 25 which again is believable LOL. I have a feeling she was one of the top girls at a Go Go bar until her child and than the body started to go. FYI I knew before I took her about the pregnancy fat but I didn't mind. She looked good in the clothes she was wearing.

A. 10 Great attitude, really aimed to please! I also had insurance if she wasn't good because the mama said I could return her and get someone else if she was bad. She drank like a champ, downing anything I threw in front of her. In bed, she allowed almost everything and I think I could of done things without a cover but I choose to stay covered. She even attempted anal with me half way in there but she couldn't bare the pain. Still cool though, just the attempt turned me really on, plus allowing FIA and in Doggy got me to go! I couldn't turn down the morning session as much as I tried. I wanted to save my self and try out Soi 6 or Soi Honey (Honey Spa) but she foiled those plans that *****! LOL.

S. 10 she was great in bed, a great dancer, a great drinking partner and tried to do everything I wanted. If her body was the same pre giving birth, she could of been GF material LOL. I have a feeling she offers great service to anyone that tries her.

Member #4152

11-17-11, 01:38

So I had dinner with Stakeout and the Mall connected to the Hilton. We talked about the different mongering scenes and on how much I love the Philippines. Too bad Mr. Entertainment was stuck in Tokyo. The more the merrier!

So again we hit up Walking Street. I was determined to find me a dime, a stunner, someone with a great body and a good looking face to go with it. Attitude and Service needed to be top notch as well! After settling for some decent looking girls the first 2 nights, I was determined to find a girl that I wouldn't regret even if she offered pour service LOL. After hitting up several Go Go bars and regular Bars, it all came down to Peppermint. I really enjoyed Peppermint a lot with it being my favorite Go Go in Pattaya. They had several girls I was interested in, some of the performances were great with the girls really into and flirting with the guys on stage like how strippers in the US do. You could tell the crowd was into because Ping Pong balls were flying all over the place. The music was good too with a lot of American hip hop instead of techno. I had a hard time choosing between 5 girls but I managed to grab a tall, slender thai girl that seemed pretty shy. She said she's been only working for 2 months and she's 20. The barfine here was 600 baht which was really reasonable compared to all the other top notch Go Go spots on walking street. I choose to go with the long time for 3000 against better judgement but I didn't regret it even though I was just looking for one pop.

Same routine as other nights, I'd buy her drinks, we go dance at clubs like lucifer and stuff. Blah, blah, blah LOL. Come game time, I had her sit back so that I could really enjoy her body. I kissed her all over and went down on her. She climaxed a couple of times while giving out faint moans trying to hold it in. Is it just me or do thai girls not like to moan? I guess it's embarrassing plus she's shy? Then the cover came on and I worked her good. She worked herself good too while on top. As always, I hit the turbo boost button while she was climaxing. Do you guys know that button? A little light playing of her anal right around when she's about to climax sends her to another world LOL! Try it! Then we went to bed. She wakes me up around 4 am and asks if she could leave. I didn't mind plus she more than did enough to compensate the 3000 baht long time fee LOL. In my mind, I was thinking she woke up and couldn't go back to sleep and was bored out of her mind here trying not to wake me.

L. 8 She still wasn't that 10 I was looking for but her young, innocent face got me good! LOL. She had a decent body too with hardly any fat. Really small boobs, almost none but her butt compensated for that.

A. 10 She was shy yet, the chemistry was there. I think taking them dancing and having drinks always loosens them up and brings you and the girl closer. It makes them feel like it's more than a job but something fun?

S. 10 It's always nice when you get her to climax several times and on top of that, you climax at the same time for the final one.

I have a hard time remembering their names because they all sound the same. One girls name is Ai, another is On, another is Vee. LOL it goes on and on and on!

Stakeout

11-17-11, 11:24

Thanks for the great reports, Chimmy31. Glad I could be of help. I really had a blast hanging out with you.

The big bar complexes on Walking Street you were referring to are called Rolling Stones. There is one at the beginning of Walking street to the right and one further up past the Insomnia disco, also to the right. I believe they are owned by a Norwegian guy.

Oh, and you obviously mean bahts when you wrote $, just so no one gets confused and thinks you meant US dollars, haha.

Mr Enternational

11-18-11, 03:31

Well we have had the Uzbeks, the Nigerians, and now we have the Colombians. Last night at 3am I went into Mixx Disco and I started talking to the first girl I saw. She was sitting next to the door, a superstar. She didn't look Thai to me but sometimes I can't tell. I finally asked where she was from and she said Colombia. Then I told her "mentirosa," which means liar in Spanish. From there on out we were speaking in Spanish. She said that she was from Pereira. She had come to Thailand to "work." She had done 1 month in Bangkok and now she had already been in Pattaya for 1 month. I told her that I was going to circle the club but I would be right back.

Well by the time I got back some Middle Eastern guy had already scooped her up. I said damn, I told you I would be right back. She pointed another girl out and said it was her friend from Cali, Colombia. I said of course, I can tell by her ass. She appeared to have the classic Medellin ass implants. So I spoke to her quickly then made another circle around the club. I thought to myself that I should go ask them how much guys are giving them in Thailand. But when I got back around there was no sign of them. They went like hotcakes. Maybe I will go back there again tonight just to ask them.

Fon Tok

11-18-11, 04:07

Well we have had the Uzbeks, the Nigerians, and now we have the Colombians. -- snipJust another reason that Pattaya is such an interesting place! Pretty women from all over the world!

Even if you are just into mongering, or playing with Thai ladies, it makes for some lovely eye candy both on the street, and the beach. ;)

Daddy07

11-18-11, 06:04

Just another reason that Pattaya is such an interesting place! Pretty women from all over the world!

Even if you are just into mongering, or playing with Thai ladies, it makes for some lovely eye candy both on the street, and the beach. .Eye candy?

In this case more like eye blubber, don't you think?

The Thai spinners beat these big Ruskies to shreds IMHO! :D

Stakeout

11-18-11, 06:15

LittleBigMan

11-18-11, 07:31

I love the cheap and convenient baht buses that operate on Beach Road and Second Road. Before I leave Pattaya, I am planning a visit to the Outlet Mall At the crossing of Thep Prasit and Sukhumvit Road.

What's the best way of getting there from Soi Diana? Motorbike taxi? Or should I take a communal baht bus up to Sukhumvit Road from either Pattaya Klang or Pattaya Tai? The communal 10-bht baht buses are available on these streets too, right?From where you are and if you consider the hot sun and time is money and convienance take the motorbike taxi, it should cost you no more than 70 baht which should get you there in 10 minutes if he or she doesn't use Sukhumvit. Maybe you already know? I go to the outlets a lot just to kill time when I have nothing to do. I pretty much do that when I'm also home in the States. You should know your prices since items are marked up and then sold as be 50% off. For example when it comes to Nike or sport shoes and clothing I have seen them cost more than it cost in the states. There are some deals but you need to know your prices?

Good luck, LBM

Member #4152

11-18-11, 08:29

LOL. Ya, I miss those baht buses already! They were so easy to use! I also miss the Rolling Stones. Do you know of any in Bangkok?

Thanks for the great reports, Chimmy31. Glad I could be of help. I really had a blast hanging out with you.

The big bar complexes on Walking Street you were referring to are called Rolling Stones. There is one at the beginning of Walking street to the right and one further up past the Insomnia disco, also to the right. I believe they are owned by a Norwegian guy.

Oh, and you obviously mean bahts when you wrote $, just so no one gets confused and thinks you meant US dollars, haha.

Fon Tok

11-18-11, 10:36

Eye candy? In this case more like eye blubber, don't you think? The Thai spinners beat these big Ruskies to shreds IMHO! :DDaddy, nothin' wrong with a big, white girl once in awhile. Especially, when one is as big as Russian bear (BTW, my grandfather was born in NW Russia in 1900). Of course, for me at least, it's been a number of years since I've tasted that flavor.

And, besides, not all of us have a way with the SYT "spinners" like you do!

LittleBigMan

11-18-11, 12:46

Daddy07,

I told you but you don't listen or you're just scared to find out? Now F. T. Is telling you go BIG sometimes, even they got to have some love?

See! That's where the Big comes after the Little!

Next time your at Bac. Instead of checking out that spinner upstair from downstair check out that Chang. She will rock your world and stampede your old ass to the hospital. My buddy (dark glasses) took her last night and he called this morning and said he had to be carried out of his hotel room and taken to the International hospital. When I saw him he was in the emergency with muscle spasm throughout his back and neck. They shot him up with muscle relaxers and pain killers but when he woke up he smile and said " that was one hell of a ride ".

Do like me turn off the a/c and put your comforter on the floor and go to work on the sweet spot, once she start to break out in a sweat that's when the fun starts? Her thick thighs now up pressing against your ears it feels like you are swimming underwater. Now slowly rock her and let her heavy thighs roll you over on the bottom and let the force be with you. While she is on top have her pull you up and hug like a big bear so you can suck her tits then have her fall backwards and you will automatically flip up like you were on a swing! Last, get her from the back and pound her until you get a blast of gas!

LBM

Stakeout

11-18-11, 12:46

From where you are and if you consider the hot sun and time is money and convienance take the motorbike taxi, it should cost you no more than 70 baht which should get you there in 10 minutes if he or she doesn't use Sukhumvit.Thanks, LBM!

Mr Enternational

11-19-11, 04:59

Devilspinkick

11-19-11, 05:16

After a five year hiatus (can't believe it has been five years) , I have finally returned to the LOS. Here are just a few notes thus far:

1. The lady at the desk of Cathay Pacific thought it was silly to think that there might be any cancelled flights to BKK. Silly me. Anyway, the 15 hour flight from SFO to HK was packed, while the 3 hour flight from HK to BKK had plenty of open seats. The two hour ride to Pattaya was taxing yet necessary. I was generous and gave the taxi guy 1, 500Baht.

2. Visited one of the SabaiDee Land massage parlors, there are three of then so I can never figure out which is which. However, this one had two seperate fishbowls and was quite spacious. Picked a petite little lady who called gerself Kim. Sort of the usual fair with the body-slide, tub, followed by a ride in the bed. But it was a nice refresher since I hadn't experienced it in a while. Approx. 2,000Baht for time well spent.

3. I have also paid a visit to the Devil's Den. I initially booked for Cookie & Dew but apparently Cookie wasn't available so I agreed to the team of Dew & Toni. They made an OK team, esp. Considering that Thai chicks generally are NOT very good when it comes to menage a trois. Dew was a cool cat and she spoke English pretty well & she said she also speaks Cambodian. Toni's English was pretty much non-existent. My only complaint is that Dew kept trying to do stuff to my butthole. Not really my cup of tea though I realize that a lot of guys who go to the DD are into such things. 4,400Baht for two hours with two cute dames, not a bad deal.

4. Lot's of folks visiting here in Pattaya at this time. The more the merrier I say. I have also noticed the increased presence of Eastern Europeans, but this has already been discussed ad nauseum so I will mention it no further.

5. Walking street is a porn-o-copia of sin. Multi-stop sex. If you don't like the bar or Go-Go that you're at, then you have about fifty others to choose from in a very concentrated area.

6. I signed up at Tony's PowerStation gym which is right on walking street. Not the biggest gym in the world but it has a decent selection of heavy metal plates and machines. A good place for meat-heads like me. The entrance is a bit hard to find because it's at the back of a bar, but there is a large sign with the words Power Station outside. So just look up.

Lastly, things here are still so cheap that it's almost obscene. Nonetheless, I prefer the scene in Europe & Latin America despite the significantly higher costs.

Still have a few days left here. So much sin left to do.

- DSK

BionicMan

11-19-11, 06:28

The Colombian girls came up and talked to me last night. I didn't even recognize them.They looked much better the first night. The first night there were only 2, but last night there were 4. I asked them how much they get for services. They said 3,500 / hour. I said no for all night. And they said 7,000. I won't ever tell someone what price they should put on their body, but I'm still not understanding how foreign women try to move in on the local market and charge extraordinary prices. It must be working though because once again they were getting scooped up (or maybe they didn't quote the prices beforehand).The only reason why these foreign girls are taken in asian can be in customers willing to try a latin or a CIS chick aware they will never travel to those countries. The girls charge premium prices as they want to earn based on home income, not on a thai pad meal price. In addition there is less competition, ie they are kind of exotic there, so they do not have to be stunners to win your heart, whilst at home they have to face a tough competition. So a mediocre latin can earn better in Asia than at home. I myself ticked the Russian box in a sauna in Macau, an African one in KL. But I would not be ready to match those prices, 'though. Has all to stay within reason.

LittleBigMan

11-19-11, 06:51

The Colombian girls came up and talked to me last night. I didn't even recognize them. They looked much better the first night. The first night there were only 2, but last night there were 4. I asked them how much they get for services. They said 3,500 / hour. I said no for all night. And they said 7,000. I won't ever tell someone what price they should put on their body, but I'm still not understanding how foreign women try to move in on the local market and charge extraordinary prices. It must be working though because once again they were getting scooped up (or maybe they didn't quote the prices beforehand).You got to remember LOL, because its not made in Thailand there is a import tax of 40, the only population that believe there is a global economy is Americans and the Western world.

It's been awhile that I had a Colombian hot chick but no way I'm paying that price here. I can get 2 or 3 girls that look like Latiinas for that price and pretend that they are?

I'm sure they can come as freelancers but mainly the Russians, Nigerians are here because the Mafia has payoff Immigration to get them long term Visa. The Nigerians were coming in on Education Visa and when things started to get out of hand in Bangkok the BIB, had to do something and acted like they didn't know a thing. In my opinion before the floods I notices a reduction of Africians on Sukhumvit and Pattaya.

Now its the Mafia from Colombians it doesn't surprise me since they have been running weapons to the Golden Triangle for years. If the price evers comes down I might relent?

LBM

Daddy07

11-19-11, 08:21

Do like me turn off the a / see and put your comforter on the floor and go to work on the sweet spot, once she start to break out in a sweat that's when the fun starts? Her thick thighs now up pressing against your ears it feels like you are swimming underwater. Now slowly rock her and let her heavy thighs roll you over on the bottom and let the force be with you. While she is on top have her pull you up and hug like a big bear so you can suck her tits then have her fall backwards and you will automatically flip up like you were on a swing! Last, get her from the back and pound her until you get a blast of gas!

LBMYou sure do know what you're talking about, LBM, but alas, as for me, I'm just not into [CodeWord139] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord139). :D

Devilspinkick

11-20-11, 07:21

I signed up at Tony's PowerStation gym which is right on walking street. Not the biggest gym in the world but it has a decent selection of heavy metal plates and machines. A good place for meat-heads like me. The entrance is a bit hard to find because it's at the back of a bar, but there is a large sign with the words Power Station outside. So just look up.- DSKActually, the signage outside is an image of a guy and the words say 'Tony's Entertainment Complex'. The gym is located behind sort of hookah lounge called the 'Abyzz'. Just wanted to set things straight.

- DSK

Devilspinkick

11-20-11, 07:45

Of the flesh!

Just a quick breakdown of some of the Go-Gos I've visited.

Alcatraz: Pretty much your standard Go-Go, the upstairs area with the girls in cages is a nice touch. A decent number of pretties here.

Angel Witch: As usual, this place is great for artsy & imaginative shows. But it is hard to check out the talent while a show is going on. And some of the shows last a long time. I did manage to check out a few some cuties here.

Iron Club: I liked the design & atmosphere of this place. Hotties dressed in spider-webbed clothes and other hotties in a big wash tub playing around and lots of interaction with the crowd. I tipped them well. It has the feel of a runway show. I guess that's a good thing. No?

Polo: A few real babes in this Go-Go. Has an Arabian-Belly dance theme to the place. They were aggressive about buying expensive drinks (600Bahts) and hookahs for the dames (600 to 1, 000Bahts) ; hell, I don't even like to smoke. But I may return because of some of the babes I saw there. Definitely more expensive than the other Thai Go-Gos.

Galaxy: Now if you want to splurge and spend a lot of baht then this is the place to go. Hard to resist the European babes posing on the stairway. The minute I stepped in the joint they assigned two hotties from Moldova to me. Between drinks for them & me (3 people) the tab was 1, 000Baht already. At least didn't buy a champagne bottle for 6,000Baht. I'm used to spending cash like this in Europe, but this is the LOS! None-the-less, I hung around for a bit to take in the scene. The place definitely has some hot women from the EB. I even saw a rather attractive black lady in there. Not sure if she is from Africa or the Caribbean or what. Visiting Galaxy was a nice change of pace, but after a while I had to head back to the reality of the LOS. I can get Europeans at much lower prices at the German FKKs.

Lollipop: located below Galaxy & Polo is this little Go-Go. I actually had a good time at this place. Hooked up with couple of wild little Thai hotties. Go figure.

As usual YMMV and indeed it will. Still want to check out a few other places.

- DSK

Amex Spg

11-20-11, 19:44

warning: do not read this report if you're easily bored or really negative / critical.

backstory: i published part i in oct. below is part i (which were the events from days 1 to 5) and part ii (days 6 to 30). if you want to see pictures, pm me with your info and e-mail address so i can e-mail you the pdf file with photos embedded. i created a ms word & pdf file with the photos embedded (sorry but the ladies are fully clothed. i don't do nude photos since even some of the escorts over 20 look **** and i don't want to be busted for supposedly kiddie porn). but because the pdf file is. 9 mb it's too large to upload via an isg report attachment (pdf limit of. 4 mb).

a quick gogo review of imho the best:

for hotties (i prefer spinners) : superbaby, supergirl, baccara, happy.

off-ws (walking strip) for hotties + easier to negotiate a lower price: worldwide.

for sleazy stuff (buy lds and get head from the chicks right there in the club, banana shows, audience participation) : windmill, babydolls, x-zone.

party atmosphere: airport, what's up.

show: angelwitch.

off-ws go-go area: soi lk metro which had original champagne gogo and now also submarine, kiss, office, mash gogos.

club: insomnia especially from 2 am. 6 am.

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exchange rate b (aht) 30. 5 = us $1 (or b100 = $3. 40)

most items listed (eg height, weight, age) are approx.

thailand's a beautiful country with an amazing culture, friendly people, great food and low prices. since i'm sex-centric i mostly focus on its mongering aspects. in no way do i mean to disrespect thailand's people / women, criticize any improper english (if anything, i'm the ugly american who still can't speak thai after 7 visits) and such. even absent the mongering, i'd say los is a better country to retire to than the land of the brave, home of the free.

table of contents.

section 1: monger glossary.

section 2: amex's background.

section 3: escort looks / pricing.

section 4: logistics / touristy.

section 5: sexcapades / journal.

section 1: monger glossary (see.

www.urbandictionary.com

for more detailed info)

cim = cum in mouth (cof = come on face ie money-shot)

cum in mouth; finish in your mouth = usually i have to accompany this request with a hand gesture towards her mouth; i guess it's an infrequent request from johns.

bareback = no condom / cover; could be with vaginal, oral or anal intercourse.

boom-boom = intercourse, every escort knows this term.

boom-boom ass; fuck ass = anal intercourse.

smoke; blowjob; sucky-sucky = some escorts will know that 'smoke' means bj but some will think it's cigarettes, and an escort may or may not know what 'blowjob' &/or 'sucky-sucky' means. usually i have to say 2 or 3 slang terms and gesture with my hand towards her mouth for her to realize i want bj (s).

bbbj = bareback blowjob ie opposite of a cbj (covered / condom bj) ; usually if a los escort does bjs, it's a bbbj but occasionally they'll insist on a cbj

3-holer / three-holer = does vaginal, oral and anal.

starfish = just lays in bed ie a terrible lay.

runner = tries to leave early eg if you negotiated lt but she leaves after 1 pop.

pse = porn star experience eg (acting) she's like jenna jameson during filming.

gfe = girlfriend experience eg does what a cool, regular girlfriend would do with you except the escort's getting paid for her st / lt.

fs = full service (conventional vaginal intercourse unless anal fs is specified) , aka "boom-boom"

bf = barfine, commission paid to business by john so he can go with an employee / escort.

st = short time (eg 1 pop) , lt = long time (generally 1st pop, sleep then 2nd pop)

agogo / gogos = gentlemen clubs, dancers in skimpy outfits, or mostly / fully nude.

beer bar = bars where employees can be barfined; they wear regular clothes.

fl = (pro) freelancers who tricks regularly, escorts who work independently or off-duty from their workplace; john doesn't pay a barfine but riskier sees she may not be affiliated with a business / supervisor.

amateur fl = rarely takes a john or trying it for the first time; may be a student, hair stylist, on vacation, out drinking / partying / clubbing, in-between regular jobs, wants $ for shopping / make rent / pay bills, etc.

br = beach road, the west facing 1. 5 mile beach / strand running from north's soi 2 to south's soi 15; br aka cb = coconut bar (trees line along the strand) w / lots of fl

soi = street; soi 2. 16 run perpendicular (ie west-east) to br which runs north-south.

ws = walking street, highest concentration of gogos / beer bars & where most clubs (locals call them discos) are located (lucifer, candy shop, marine, and in one building there's insomnia aka iclub upstairs and on the ground floor there's ibar) ; prices typically higher on ws than in other neighborhoods.

soi 6 = (near pattaya's north end; ws is near pattaya's south around soi 15) , concentration of cathouses specializing in st where b 1, 000 ($34) = b 300 for barfine & use of st room upstairs + b700 escort's fee.

spinner = petite chick eg < 5' 4", < 100 lbs.

sloppy tits / boobs / breasts = they sag unattractively, really noticeably if she's large-chested.

monger = short for *monger; escort connoisseur

p4p = pay for play, prostitution.

ld = lady drink you buy her which she gets a commission out of from the business.

baht bus; songtaew = sometimes called taxi it's only b10 ($.34) per person per shuttle ride, these converted pick-up tricks bus-system run specific circular routes but can also be hired as a private taxi (there's also 'meter taxi' or 'private (hire) taxi' available)

obscure terms i made up or simply uncommon:

fled = to hire a freelancer (as opposed to barfining an escort from a business)

teenie = she's < 18 (ie ****)

tit = this is thailand (instead of tia, this is africa)

mini-me = my 2nd head in charge when i'm mongering, sometimes with bad / expensive consequences.

section 2: amex's background.

1) i was in pattaya (patts) 10 oct. 8 nov and the rains / floods weren't an issue. medium sized tourist crowds whereas dec. jan is the busiest. not too many johns (guys who hire escorts) or much overcrowding in the gogos.

- i haven't gotten laid since pi (philippines) oct. nov 2010 so the dry spell is over, hallelujah. i was last in patts apr 2010 which is what i'm comparing patts oct 2011 to.

- i'm a cheap charlie amex but i'm worried i may not be the monger i used to be (major difference is that i'm now an unemployed, poor college student, again).

- for a budget which i really should adhere to (darn you, temptation and patts reasonable prices!) i wanted to spend total < b (aht) 3, 000 (<$100) per day with these sub-totals:

a) non-discretionary: hotel / laundry = per day sub-total b700 ($23) = room b50 ($18) + tip maid b20 ($.70) + occasional tip to front desk clerk / security guard / misc b20 ($.70) + laundry expenses (i use a laundry shop on soi p. 72 (next to p. 72 hotel & restaurant) who's cheaper than paying hotel laundry service) which comes out to b280 ($9. 50) w / tips per week.

be) discretionary: per day sub-total b2, 300 ($77) = anything other than the hotel / laundry (sex, entertainment, bar-hopping, food)

- discretionary budget priority 1 are escorts (ie sex) which if i stick with freelancers = sub-total b1, 000+ ($34+) = 2 short times (with 2 different escorts) or 1 long time = but if she's from a business (gogo, beer bar.) or an expensive freelancer then it could cost me as much as b 2, 100 ($61) = gogo barfine b600 ($20) + escort long time (st) services for b1, 500 ($51).

- discretionary budget priority 2 is everything else (gogo / club / bar-hopping, transportation, food, entertainment, etc) = sub-total b1, 300 ($37) which goes by really fast when i'm hitting 7+ gogos in one night with a drink (s) at each one + possibly buying lady drinks / tipping the waitresses / dancers.

- due to my affinity for gogos (hot nude women) , buying lady drinks and my impatience (i don't stay at one place long so throughout the night i visit too many places) staying within budget's hard. sometimes i under tip but i'm more likely to over tip. my rationale is that looking back on life (especially when travelling to poor countries where $.25. $1 is a significant tip to a local) i regret much more the times i've under-tipped than the times i over-tipped. sometimes i shouldn't even be tipping but i do it partly because i figure i can't take it with me (money to my grave / afterlife / whatever).

- since local thais regularly mistake me for japanese or korean (both having a rep to be liberal spenders) women (dancers / bargirls / freelancers and so on) are immediately attracted to me. that's good but they'll try to highball me on long-time (lt) or short-time (lt) services (thinking i'll pay jap / korean tourist prices even though i told 'them i'm american) so then i have to be more aggressive with negotiating it down.

in los / pi i usually pop 1/2 a kamagra pill, which is generic viagra, prior to round 1 with a new escort if i'm also doing fs. if i just want a hj &/or bj then no kamagra.

- over the course of shopping for an escort i can't negotiate a deal with 1. 10+ women because they say no deal (they weren't interested, i wasn't willing to pay enough or for whatever reasons) or during negotiations i realize she's not what i want at that moment (turns out to be a butter face, won't do bjs, too old, she's ****, has kid (s) , etc). so it's not always a walk on the beach for me to find a st / lt.

section 3: escort looks / pricing.

- generally the escort's attractiveness is gogo ws fl beer bar soi 6 cb fl. hotness is entirely subjective and sometimes there are ugly gogos and hot cb fl so it just depends.

- my ideal chicks are fl (preferably amateur) that are also tiny spinners (< 5' 3", < 90 lbs) with straight, black long hair, little to no make-up, full a cups or as large as c cups. 18. 22 why / o, no kids, does bbbj+cim, three-holer, i prefer the hot girl-next-door-type but i'll take a hot model-type (eg i would rather bang natalie portman than giselle bundchen). of course i rarely score my ideal chicks since i'm an unemployed, poor cheap charlie and i try to only pay st b500 ($17) , lt b1, 000 ($34). i want to avoid barfines but sometimes i'll use soi 6 or consider getting a gogo / beer bargirl, or i up the price i pay for st / lt to get better fls.

- i do prefer gfe where she's low-maintenance (negotiations were easy, for bj &/or fs she's easy-going not giving me absurd limitations / complaining) , cool to go eat with and talk to (on the rare occasions i actually have an interest / need to speak / listen to her) and such.

- barfines are non-negotiable, the st / lt fee the john pays to the escort is negotiable so a handsome and / or charismatic player could in theory bang fl chicks entirely for free. what you get also depends on your negotiation skills: a john could convince the girl to let him have 2+ pops during his st.

- these are typical retail prices (before negotiations) in my limited experience but it does vary from business to certain other businesses and escorts sometimes highballs you so it's worthwhile to negotiate (it helps if she genuinely wants to go with you because she likes your personality and / or looks). my suggestion is when you're at a business find out the retail price from the mamasan or waitress and negotiate directly with the escort for b 500+ ($17+) discount off the retail price, in addition to agreeing on the terms (stay with you until 9 am, cim, whatever).

- gogo st = total b2, 600 ($86) = bf b600 ($20) + escort b2, 000 ($66)

- gogo lt = total b3, 600 ($120) = bf b600 ($20) + escort b3, 000 ($100)

these are the gogos st / lt retail prices at superbaby group (superbaby agogo, supergirl agogo) and the baccara group (baccara, happy, peppermint, beach, cavern) , all of their agogos being on ws. a few gogos (eg what's up, playgirl, also on ws) has a bf b1, 000 ($34) and higher st / lt prices, or variable bf prices depending on if you get a dancer, coyote (ugly dancer) girl, showgirl, etc. at an off-ws gogo (eg soi 7 & soi 8 area, soi lk metro, soi post office) retail prices are generally lower with st fee of b1, 500 ($50) and lt b2, 500 ($82).

- beer bar st = total b1, 300 ($43) = bf b300 ($10) + escort b1, 000 ($33)

- beer bar lt = total b2, 300 ($76) = bf b300 ($10) + escort b2, 000 ($66)

- cb fl (coconut bar freelancer) st b 500 ($17) , lt b 1, 000 ($34)

- giving her taxi money is optional. of course all tipping (to gogo waitresses, beer bar bartenders, to an escort for st / lt, etc) is optional.

- gogo bottled water (for myself) = b110 ($3. 70)

- gogo (regular) ld = b115 ($3. 80) , be aware that the escort may order a premium ld / bottled beer.

- beer bar bottled water = b60 ($2)

- beer bar (regular) ld = b100 ($3. 40) , but at vertigo beer bar in front of happy gogo a ld is b150 ($5)

- club bottled water (at insomnia / ibar, marine.) = b110 ($3. 50)

- i try to only patronize gogos with good happy hours (which sometimes is all-night long) deals such as: at baccara group properties the draft domestic beer b59 ($2) , at airport agogo heineken draft b85 ($2. 70)

- typical closing times: soi 6 cathouses 1 am, gogos / beer bars 3:30 am. for ibar 5:30 am, insomnia at 8 am or so.

section 4: logistics / touristy.

1) airport trans.

taxi from the airport (or to)

http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/

- i paid fare b1, 000+tip b240 ($34+tip $8). my plane arrived 1 hr late (at 12:45 am instead of 11:45 pm) but my chauffeur was patiently waiting for me and i rode in a nice toyota minivan.

- driving time was about 1 am. 2:30 am.

- since the bell trans airport shuttle cuts off by 7 pm, i couldn't use them.

shuttle to the airport (or from)

www.belltravelservice.com

- b200 one way but hours of operation is approx 6 am to 7 pm depending on your route.

2) jasmine hotel.

http://bit.ly/rl9z6q

- nothing fancy but wi-fi and satellite tv works and the room meets my needs (shower, sex, sleep, mini-fridge) and my long-term rate is only b550 / night ($18 / night) , normally it's b700 / night ($23).

3) cellphone 085-xxx-xxxx.

- i bought a new sim chip b80 ($3) and am using it with my unlocked gsm phone.

- the store also sells a brand-new nokia 1280 unlocked gsm phone.

http://amzn.to/qcu4je

for b990 ($33).

4) misc.

www.pattayafloatingmarket.com

http://bit.ly/otfdoa

www.pattayacity-seatravel.com

b1, 500 ($50) for 3 island activities, etc.

www.plcpattaya.com

www.tlslanguageschool.com

owner mr. chris gleeson, brother / manager mr. mick gleeson.

muay thai.

http://www.fairtex-muaythai.com/web/home.html

some guy wrote at.

http://bit.ly/psrhip

"when i was at big c xtra last week someone put a flyer on my motorbike about the muay thai so i decided to pay the place a visit. as lbm said it is held at fairtex right off thepprasit road on soi 2. you can't miss the place because soi 2 is such a short street and in front of the place you will see a lighted statue of two guys boxing. the matches are held every wednesday starting at 8pm and ending around midnight (website says monday, thursday, and saturday for some reason.) the tickets are 1200 baht for normal bleacher seats and 1500 baht for vip (website says 1000 & 1200) , which consists of white plastic chairs on the floor. the guy that showed me around the place said the matches are shown on t sports channel. the website for the venue is.

http://www.fairtex-muaythai.com/web/home.html

"

excerpts from.

http://bit.ly/qu979d

"the regular go go clubs in pattaya don't have a cover charge, and any that does is a rip off. the nastiest go gos have a lot of "audience participation" in the club, but this isn't an official scheduled "show." it's pretty much continuous except for shift changes.

for example, in x-zone there are several small stages. at one of them, i had my fist up one girl's pussy while i did another with a banana. all you have to do is buy them a drink or two or maybe tip them 100 baht.

windmill seems to be famous for dancers who let you eat their pussy while they're on stage or in the jacuzzi. but it's not just the girls on stage. the ones who aren't dancing will sit with you for some action also.

baby doll's is well known for "hands on" girls. while sitting at a small stage watching 2 girls doing a lesbian show, another dancer sat down next to me and started playing with my cock. after i bought her a drink she took it out and started sucking on it. one of the girls on stage hung her head over the side and got in a few sucks too.

those 3 may be the best known nasty places, but there are plenty of other "hands-on" spots.

there are touts on walking street who try to get you to go to places with "shows" like you might think of in bangkok. for the most part these are rip-offs and should be avoided. angelwitch does shows, but they are classy, choreographed things, not live sex."

http://www.thai-anxiety.com/massage.htm

nini tailors on 2nd road across from the royal garden plaza / marriott hotel.

- dress shirt b 700 ($23)

- slacks b 1, 250 ($41)

- blazer / sport coat b $3, 000 ($99)

- suit (really 1 pair of slacks + 1 blazer) b 4, 250 ($140)

to custom make the suit takes 1 measurement and 2 – 3 fittings.

for future orders: once nini has your measurements recorded they can make your order and mail it to you internationally.

section 5: sexcapades / journal.

notes:

- in amex's los time, a day runs approx. 3 pm until 6:30 am the next day. so even though my plane actually landed at 12:45 am 11 oct, it's still day 1:10 oct, at least until 6 am.

- friend # = escort i hooked up with at min. getting a bj.

- scoring system: a = great, b = good, c = average, d = bad, f = terrible. i'll rate the women on 1) face 2) body 3) service (her personality & gfe + if she's good in bed). her overall a / b/c / d/f score is based on 50% service + 50% attractiveness (face + body).

- for sex i prefer bareback anal bbbj bareback vaginal condom anal cbj condom vaginal. in angeles city (philippines) nov 2010 from an escort i caught gonorrhea in the genitalia and left-eye (doctor said vaginal fluid could be transmitted to the eye) because of my stupid vaginal &/or anal barebacking on 5+ escorts (not in the same night) and going down on 3+ chicks. so, i've gone back to not going bareback for vaginal / anal intercourse and not going down on an escort. that put's bareback anal and bareback vaginal out of the question so when mongering i prefer bbbj condom anal cbj condom vaginal. i'm so freakin' lazy that i would rather receive a bbbj or even cbj then do vaginal intercourse (unless it's bareback, which i wouldn't do with an escort) since a bj involves minimum effort on my part. since i'm paying for it i don't want to over-exert myself during sex. now if an escort will do the holy trifecta (oral+vaginal+anal) and there's no anal surcharge, i'm willing to exert myself.

- typically before round 1 (including intercourse) i'll pop ½ a kamagra pill (special k) , which is generic for viagra. if i only want a bj then i won't pop special k.

- every photo of the escorts was after the round (s) , so they don't look their best (make-up messed up, clothes disheveled). i intended to take before photos but mini-me almost always made me forget so i ended up with after photos mostly.

day 1: mon / 10 oct: miss-[CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), friend 1.

friend 1 (see photo) , kwang, age 21 why / o. 5' 4".100 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34). overall a = service a + face a + body b. does cim, swallows. her, her 3 friends and a (russian?) guy were drinking at ibar when i met them around 4 am. i asked the guy if i could talk to her (make sure i'm not hitting on someone he's with) and he was cool. she ends up coming back to my place, says she's horny, we shower together as prep for round 1, in bed she does a good bj, moans during intercourse, does cim and swallows without batting an eye. says that night business at the gogo was slow because it was raining so much (apparently prior to me getting to patts at 2:30 am).

first pop at 5:45 am, slept until 7 am, then she gets up. it's mostly dark in the hotel room but i can see her and i'm wondering if she's goofing around when she opens my closet (see photo) , sits down but then starts peeing. wtf, i didn't know if she was still slightly inebriated, just drowsy, or messing with me. i grab her, tell her "the bathroom's over there" so she finishes in the bathroom. she comes to bed, seems to be in the mood, so we ended up going for round 2. considering how good in bed she is i can tolerate the miss-peeing. she's asleep until 12 noon, we do round 3, get lunch for baht 130 ($4. 50) consisting of chicken fried rice, pork / intestines fried rice+egg and 2 cokes. we sleep until 6 pm, i'm too jet-lagged for round 4, she says she doesn't recall peeing in my closet, and we part ways.

epilogue (ie by the end of the trip) : the next evening i visit her at casnovy and buy her a ld b120 ($4). a week or 2 later i visit casnovy again and simply tip her b60 ($2, cheaper than buying a ld + tip to the waitress). on my last fri in patts i visit her one last time to buy her 1 last ld, she tells me that her 21st birthday is sat / 5 nov and she'll probably celebrate at ibar. i was planning on seeing if she was at ibar (after she gets off from casnovy at 3 am) that sat and maybe even fled her for lt b 1, 000 ($34) again but i ended up with friend 31 for lt that night.

on friend 1 escort costs i spent $44 = fled lt b1, 000 ($34) + 2 ld equaling b240 ($8) + tip b60 ($2). had i bf her from casnovy the retail price was lt b3, 600 ($120) = bf b600 ($20) + escort b3, 000 ($100). i felt somewhat guilty not tipping her and not giving her taxi money when she left that afternoon after our 3 rounds. in retrospect during a round i should have also checked to see if she'd do anal. as it turns out, during my los trip she was the only fl off-duty gogo i was with and she had the best / most attractive face of friends 1. 31.

day 2: tue / 11 oct: referral, friend 2.

friend 2, jit, age 21, 5' 3".95 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34). overall a = service a + face c + body a (damn near perfect for me). does anal, cim. fl i met at insomnia around 4 am. friend 2 has an ok face but then turns out to have a near-perfect tiny spinner physique. about 4:30 am for round 1 and i test the anal-waters. she had done anal before but was reluctant to try it with me. so i 1) use lots of ky. 2) offered my fingers / pinky / side of my hand (opposite thumb-side) for her to bite on while she's enduring the anal discomfort / pain and 3) i only did anal after i (tried to) satisfy her vaginally with intercourse and fingering. so she lets me go in the backdoor, my left-hand hurting because she's biting in to it but fortunately she didn't break the skin / draw blood. i really don't know if she enjoyed anal but we did at least 2 positions: missionary and woman-on-top. when she was on top (mini-me in her bunghole) she still bit into my hand but seemed a little more relaxed with the anal action. around 2 pm we had round 2 (no anal, sadly) , lunch, and she left. 2 nights later she called for a hook-up but i told her "sorry, i find 'another lady" which i kinda regret since she had a dope body, does anal & cim.

epilogue: friend 2 and some of her friends hooked at insomnia every night it seemed. when i ran into her again at iclub on two different occasions i bought her san miguel lights. so on escort associated costs i spent b1, 360 ($44) = lt b1, 000 ($34) + 2 insomnia beers equaling b340 ($11. 20, or $5. 60 per beer). again i felt guilty (darn you, conscience) for not tipping her for her exemplary fl services or even giving taxi money. so her and i were on pretty amicable terms, which i think helped when i fled her friends friend 8 and friend 22 (i have no recollection of their names) on separate occasions later on the trip.

day 3: wed / 12 oct, runner 1, friend 3.

friend 3, age 22, 5' 4".100 lbs. st b1, 000 ($34). overall b = service b + face c + body b. does anal, cim. has 1 kid. fl i met at insomnia about 6 am. at my place after the vaginal stuff i try the exact same routine from friend 2. i 1) use lots of ky. 2) she bites on my fingers / hand 3) anal only after the vaginal. she says she's never done anal and is reluctant to but does let me go in the backdoor. we did that in missionary position, i don't remember if she went on top, and we did it doggie style but with both our bodies laying down on our left-side. we sleep a little but she's a runner who won't do round 2 and at 8 am is leaving. we argue if she deserves b500, b700 or b1, 000. she says if she knew it was only b 500 she would not have gone with me and that she always gets b 1, 000. i say i want round 2 even if it's just a bj. i decide screw it, give her the b 1, 000 and she leaves. yes, i overpaid for what amounted to a fl st, at most i should have coughed up b 700. but the extra b 300 ($10) saved me the hassle of arguing with her in my hotel room (where my netbook, camera, cellphone, etc are lying around) and i did stick her in the ass plus she was really good in bed.

epilogue: when i picked her up at the club i should have made it clear st b500 ($17) or lt b1, 000 ($34). from then i make my pay rates clear prior to taking an escort for st / lt.

day 4: thu / 13 oct, no boom-boom, friend 4.

1:30 pm i check out soi 6, selection seemed limited and hardly any cuties. going from ws to / from soi 6 along the beach road (aka coconut bar) the fl selection is anemic.

9 pm i'm at worldwide agogo on beach road (between soi 7 & 8) and am pleasantly surprised by the selection. a few hot spinners i would love to barfine if i had the financial means. going from ws to / from worldwide agogo there seemed to be the best coconut bar selection around 8:30 pm, not so much at 10:30 pm.

12 midnight i'm at lucifer's when the drug raid happens (locals get drug tested, foreigners are searched as their leaving the disco). bummed i didn't have a chance to find a fl there, i go to insomnia which has 50% off all drinks from 11 pm. 1 am (for insomnia upstairs, not their ibar downstairs which i mistakenly thought it applied to; ibar's happy hour is 8 pm. 10 pm). insomnia's dead and one of the rare times it's a club sausage fest (in pattaya clubs generally the girls outnumber the guys, that + the girls being mostly p4p + it's free entrance / cheapish drinks is the reason pattaya is my favorite place worldwide to go clubbing).

friend 4 (see photo).25 why / o. 5' 4".100 lbs. total b560 ($19) = st b500 ($17) + tip b60 ($2). overall c = service a + face c + body d. has 1 kid, subpar body due to wrinkles from old pregnancy and baby lbs not entirely gone. previous 3 nights i picked up b1, 000 fls from insomnia / ibar around 4. 6 am, but didn't want to try again this night. 3 am i ask a ws fl age 25 single mom how much and she says st b1, 000, lt b2, 000. i walk down coconut bar and soon find an ok fl who wants st b700, lt b1, 300. i keep walking down beach road and across from central festival mall i find another age 25 single mom who says ok to st b500, lt b1, 000. we head to my hotel for the st she prefers. cute face but her pregnancy wasn't kind to her breasts / stomach what with all the wrinkles. at least her bbbj+teabagging was awesome and i told her "i no power for boom-boom" since i was only interested in a bj. unfortunately she says no to cim (i should have negotiated that back at beach road) so it ends up being a cof.

day 5: fri / 14 oct, friend 5.

friend 5, 30 why / o. 5' 4".100 lbs. total b540 ($18) = st b500 ($17) + tip b40 ($1. 50). overall b = service a + face b + body c. cim. has 2 kids, she has a cute face, subpar spinner body due to wrinkles from her 2 pregnancies. walking down cb i first found this teenie (ie under the age of 18) hottie, sitting with her friend, who agrees to st b500 and takes cim. disappointingly she has no i'd but claims to be age 19. i'm tempted to chance it, but i come to my senses and pass since she looked to be around age 16. walking further north on cb i find friend 5 with her friend. friend 5 asks if i can give her friend taxi money so she can go home, i say sure and hand her b20 ($.70) and she's happy. once at my hotel friend 5 turns out to be really horny and wants fs but i tell her "i no power for boom-boom" and try to console her with finger-banging. bj, teabagging, cim and she leaves. she said no to anal (i don't think she's done it before) but said if i paid her st b1, 000 instead of b500 then she'll try it. b500 ($17) might be the typical anal retail surcharge from cb fl, which if i could spare the money is totally worth paying for especially if she's an anal virgin. with friend 5 since i didn't take special k mini-me just wasn't up enough for anal so i didn't even try negotiating the anal charge down to b200 ($7) or b300 ($10).

epilogue: so sat morning 7 am (which in amex's los time i consider to be the tail-end of friday) while having a noodle breakfast i met this age 32 single mom (just got done clubbing; her friend had went home with a john) and she ends up sleeping in my bed. nothing happened because she wasn't my type (too thick) and doing friend 5 earlier eliminated the need to do a round with the first thing i came across. we slept nude at her insistence since it's more comfortable + she liked me. i even got a hard-on at one point and she was a cool gfe-type but i didn't want to pay for st b500 with an obviously too thick girl who's an older (32!) mom to boot. had she offered me a freebie, obviously i wouldn't have declined.

day 6: sat / 15 oct, whine, jailbait, no friend.

short version: no friend today, so sad.

long version: i think i'm the only monger in pattaya who wanted to but couldn't score an escort on a sat night. about 6 am i leave insomnia with 3 thai chicks but the ages turn out to be 31, 25 and 16. of course the teenie is the hot one, my freakin' luck, but i had already offered to buy them breakfast (for us 4 it came out to total b 160 ($5. 30) for 4 beef noodle soups) and of course they were enthused to go with me for free breakfast. at breakfast was when i found out the hot one was a teenie. the 3 chicks slept with me (everyone with their clothes on, so sad) in my hotel room bed but no action with any of 'them (age 31 and 25 weren't my type).

epilogue: i realize how bad my rut was. friend 1. 3 were from insomnia / ibar, friend 3. 5 were moms (i don't mind milfs but when it's p4p i prefer non-moms) , and friend 4. 5 were from cb (which are typically the lower end fls who are willing to accept st b500, lt b1, 000 and maybe even less) , on two nights in a row (1 woman on fri. 3 ladies on sat) i had women sleeping in my bed and still i didn't get a pop off. i need to break out of this rut, maybe even start barfining from soi 6, beer bars or gogos or other business. i should also start sub-letting my hotel room bed space or require at least a hj as payment.

day 7: sun / 16 oct, holy trifecta, friend 6.

so my escort streak (5 escorts in 5 days) was broken and mini-me was all backed up. 3 pm i walk to dream teen pattaya which specializes in body+ball massage. i pay b 400 ($13) for 1 hr service with annie (anne?). she's a hot age 20 but a mom. in our private room there's a shower (at some massage parlors or cathouses you have to go down the hallway to use the shower / toilet) & i shower then lay on the bed for the massage (i'm naked, she doesn't get naked unless i buy extra services). around the 30 min mark she gets to the ball massage but she's less capable though much more attractive than the ball masseuse age 25 i got back in apr 2010. mini-me is barely up because: her ball massage unskillfulness, my inadequate rest / sleep, my fading youthful mojo, the kamagra residual from when i last took it wed / 12 oct is completely out of my system and / or whatever other reasons. annie says i can get a hj for b500 ($17) or other extra services (i didn't ask for pricing on bj or fs; when i asked she said she hasn't and won't try anal). i have no faith in her hj skills and start doing it myself. she argues i can't have a hand party (company policy?) , i tell her i'll pay her if she'll let me finish and ask her how much but she doesn't respond when i say "b100, b200. b500" (which is ridiculous to pay b500 to do my own hand party when she charges that for a hj). after 1+ minute of doing myself i pop (yes, i'm a minute man so during the holy trifecta i allocate 20 seconds to an escort's mouth. 20 sec to her vagina and 20 sec to her anus). i shower, we go to the reception era and i tip her b100 ($3. 40) which she seems content with. i leave dream teen massage and think maybe i should have walked the few blocks to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s for a total b700 ($24) for a bj (b700 covers escort's fee, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s commission and use of their private room; [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s specialty is bjs though extra services are available).

friend 6 (see photo) , jane, age 23, 5'.90 lbs. total b 1, 200 ($41) = st b 1, 200. overall a = service a + face b + body a. anal, cim, swallows. 10:15 pm i go out intent on barfining a beer bargirl but when i checked out the 3 major beer bar sections of walking street (simon (right) , simon (left) and siren square which is in front of the pattaya beer garden) i didn't really find a non-mom i wanted. 12:30 am i walk br to see what's available (but pass on a couple opportunities) and hope i'll barfine a bargirl from the soi 2 vicinity. 1:05 am i'm where br intersects soi 6 so i figured maybe i'll find a fl just getting off work. as the gods would have it, the first chick i approach has a good face (but bad complexion) and a great body (skinny enough. 5' tall but with decent a, borderline b cups; i really should learn the exact sizing of each bra size, you would think that it's covered in a women's studies 113 college class but it's not). she's standing with her friend / co-worker and i approach both women. i start negotiating with my target:

me: "what your name?" (it's easier for esl escorts to understand my pigeon english)

her: "my name jane."

me: "how old you?"

j: "23 year old. where you from?"

me: "america."

j: "you look like japanese."

me: "mother from [asian country], father from [asian country]. you want go with me?"

j: "st or lt? now i want go home sleep." her residence is in one of soi 6's buildings down the street from her workplace, goodfellas beer bar.

me: "you sleep with me at my hotel."

j: 'how much you pay? '

me: 'st b500, lt b1, 000. '

j: 'lt b1, 500. '

me: 'you smoke? '

j: 'yes. '

me: 'i finish in your mouth? '

j: 'okay. '

me: 'you fuck ass? '

j: 'yes. '

me: hope she's not lying and i'm really interested now. 'lt b1, 200. '

j: she agrees but says she has no i'd. i tell her no problem and since she looks over 18 and works at a soi 6 beer bar, her lacking an i'd isn't an issue. though finding out that she doesn't fuck ass would be disheartening.

about 1:30 am we get to my hotel room, she gets out of the day's work uniform, showers and we do round 1 consisting of just bjs and anal intercourse. she says she actually prefers anal to vaginal, which was music to my ears. after great sex, we change to casual clothes and head out to eat and go to ibar to hang out and dance (see photo). we're out from 2:45 am to 4 am when she says she needs to be at soi 6 work tomorrow at 1 pm so can't stay out long. so at 4 am it's round 2 of just a bj, she swallows and says she swallow my cum / does it for me because she thinks i'm so 'hansum, ' that when we were eating the gay, local dude was constantly checking me out and while walking down ws other women kept saying (in thai) that i'm a handsome guy which made her feel insecure. of course i don't believe her since escorts tell every john that they're handsome, but maybe i am in that top-third of johns that are considered decent looking. we sleep and at 10 am my alarm goes off so that we can get in round 3 before she departs at 11 am to get ready for work (put on that day's uniform, make-up and stuff). i don't remember if we did anal, but we did finally do vaginal and it was ok but pales in comparison to her backdoor.

epilogue: the next day i went to goodfellas and bought her a ld, and gave her friend / co-worker (when i first met jane the friend that was with her and encouraged her to go with me) a tip b20 ($.70). i can't remember if during my future soi 6 visits if i bought jane another ld. for escort costs i paid b1, 320 = fled b1, 200 ($40) + at least 1 ld b120 ($4). during pillow talk jane had told me her typical lt bf price total was b 2, 000 ($67) = bf 500 ($17) + escort b1, 500 ($50) or more. so when i fled her for lt b1, 200 it wasn't a huge saving. still, it worked out and i thought about hiring her again (either fled or bf) since the holy trifecta was so good + the gfe.

day 8: mon / 17 oct, friend 7.

i had written drafts of day 1 – 7 summaries while i was in patts suffering from insomnia and waiting for my pals from the us to arrive. by today my jetlag was mostly gone, a pal would be in town in a couple of days and from hereon i just took simple notes on the escorts i hooked up with.

friend 7 (see photo) , age 19, 5'3'.90 lbs. st b500 ($17) , don't remember if i gave her tip / taxi money. overall b = service a + face b + body b. hardly had any notes on her and i don't remember much other than she did a bj, i don't think we had intercourse, she actually has a nice body (the picture / clothes is really deceiving) but i didn't care for her haircut. i had picked her up off cb in the evening, the b500 didn't require any negotiations, she was low-maintenance and i was surprised she was only 19 and with no kid. most of the cb ladies i spoke to were in their mid-to-late 20s &/or with a kid (s).

day 9: tue / 18 oct, friend 2's circle, friend 8.

friend 8 (see photo) , age 20, 5'3'.90 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34) , don't remember if i gave her tip / taxi money. overall b = service a + face b + body b. has a kid. she has a bad facial complexion and pregnancy stretch marks, but her spinner physique mostly made up for it. she was with friend 2 at insomnia when i met her about 4 am. while negotiating, friend 8 asked me how much i paid friend 2 and i said 'lt b1, 000' so she accepted the same terms. at my hotel room while doing it i attempted anal and she resisted. i said 'your friend [jit aka friend 2] did it last week' and surprisingly friend 8 agreed to do it, albeit somewhat reluctantly. i did the old routine 1) use lots of ky. 2) offer to let her bit on my fingers / hand though i think she declined 3) anal only after the vaginal. i think it may have been her first time doing anal. we sleep, wake up and do a bj and / or intercourse, i pay her and she takes off.

epilogue: i see her a couple more times (usually with friend 2) at insomnia. one time i buy her a slushee shot b30 ($1) and another time i offered to buy her a beer but she declined. she had an insomnia membership card (only b500 ($17) which entitles the bearer to a 20% discount on drinks and earn reward points. i don't think she was angry at me, it seemed more like by that time (towards the end of my trip) between the fl money she was making and her insomnia card discount, she didn't need me to pay for her drink.

day 10: wed / 19 oct, first soi 6, friend 9 (+ friend 10)

friend 9 (see photo) , rose, age 19, 5'3'.90 lbs. soi 6 st total b1, 120 ($37) = bf incl / st room upstairs b300 ($10) + escort b700 ($23) + ld b120 ($4). overall b = service b + face b + body a. in the afternoon i was at soi 6 when i was amazed to see rose: young with a great body. we negotiated and she said she had no kids, does cim and anal. i was so eager to hit her trifecta that i agreed to st and offered her a ld (to take upstairs with us; i didn't bother with a drink for myself in part to save some money). i wasn't surprised but was sad when it turned out she lied about doing anal and at the end when she wouldn't take cim. what i was really happy about was how amazing her body was, with medium-size a cup breasts which looked really nice on her slim frame. and she was really impressive at vaginal intercourse plus bj skills which weren't too shabby either.

friend 10, age 19, 5'3'.95 lbs. st b700 ($23) = escort b600 ($20) + tip b100 ($3). overall b = service b + face a + body b. around 1 am i was walking down cb when i came across this cutie. she says she's 19, no kids and wants b700. i think about it and while we're sitting next to each other she looks at me and says 'b600, you give 50, i give 50' which i agree to. at my hotel we do it, her bj skills were ok and she didn't do it for very long but she was really into intercourse and admits she liked boom-boom. i find out that she's attending a university in the isan region and she's just making some extra money for school, which i can sympathize with. i give her the agreed upon b600 and tip her b100. too bad she wouldn't let me take her photo, she totally had the hot coed look. she had offered to stay with me lt b1, 200 ($40) but since she had to leave by 6 am since she had a puppy to care for (which makes no sense to me when you're a broke college student, but tit). since i wanted her to leave after 9 am, the lt deal fell through.

day 11: thu / 20 oct, runner 2, friend 11.

friend 11, age 24, 5'4'.95 lbs. st b700 ($23).3-holer. has a kid. overall b = service a + face b + body b. i meet her at insomnia around 5 am. she tells me she works as a masseuse and she agrees to lt b1, 000. once back at my place i get her to do anal, not sure if that was her first time. after i pop, she says she has to go and would like the b1, 000. i tell her b500 and she replies 'please, darling. for my son. ' with the soft spot in my heart for children and the fact that mini-me tapped her anus, i say 'b600' and she says 'please, darling' and i then say 'b700' and she goes 'thank you, darling. ' i pay her and we part ways. she looks really photogenic but her face's complexion up-close isn't that great and she has pregnancy stretch marks.

day 12: fri / 21 oct, stylist, friend 12 (+ friend 13)

friend 12, age 19, 5'5'.105 lbs. st b500 ($17).3 holer. overall b = service a + face c + body c. i met her on cb and no negotiations required for st b500 ($17). in my room i get her to do anal (i think it was her first time, too). i vaguely remember her taking cim. turns out she works at a hair salon but she was freelancing on cb that night to earn some extra spending money for when her friend came to visit in a few days.

friend 13, mook, age 22, 5'4'.100 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34). had a kid. overall b? = service a? + face b + body b. for some reason friend 13 is mostly drawing a blank for me. as best as i can remember, around 3:30 am i was on ws and approached / propositioned her and she said yes. we did 1 round, slept and i think another round before she left. don't even remember if she did bjs, if she was good in bed or if she accepted / declined anal. the next night i went to simon (right) complex to fantasy beer bar, bought her a ld b120 ($3). we were talking and she said she liked me except for one thing: i only paid her b1, 000 for lt. typically on a bf she charged b2, 000+ for lt, but she said that since i'm 'hansum' that she knew that i could get fl chicks to go with me for lt b1, 000. her english was pretty good so she was cool to talk with. something about her beautiful face, that classical thai look but she also had braces which just made her seem more appealing, i found her really attractive. her body was a little thick for my taste but that was ok (i consider jessica biel, beyoncé, shakira and the like to be too thick). i went back to fantasy beer bar a few more times, wanting to buy her another ld or tip her b100 ($3) , but never saw her again.

day 13: sat / 22 oct, stylist, friend 14.

friend 14, age 21, 5'2'.90 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34) , and i think i gave her b20 or b100 for tip / taxi. 3-holer, cim. overall a = service a + face a + body b. i recall meeting her 4 am on ws, propositioning her and then going to my room. she said she was a masseuse and i was the first guy to tap her anus. we did round 1, slept, did round 2 then she left. i had asked her for info on her massage parlor with the intent on going there to get a 1 hr thai massage b200 ($6) + tip b100 ($3). with the info she gave me in the afternoon when i hopped on a motorbike taxi the taxi driver drove me everywhere and asked several other taxi drivers, but we never could find her massage parlor (that was a total waste of a b60 ($2) taxi ride). of course 3 hrs after the taxi goose chase she finally returned my phone call, but by then i had given up and told her 'sorry, i find new lady' which means 'i probably won't be seeing you again. '

day 14: sun / 23 oct, sisters, friend 15 & 16.

friend 15 aka eighteen (see photo, on the left) , age 18, 5'3'.95 lbs. friend 16 aka nineteen (photo, on the right) , age 19, 5'3'.95 lbs. st b1, 400 ($46) for both of them = both for b1, 300 ($43) + b100 ($3) tip. cbj. overall b = service b + face b + body b. that evening i'm window-shopping on beach road with low expectations when i spot and become interested in eighteen. she doesn't speak much english so nineteen does most of the talking: st b700 ($23) for eighteen, or i can get both for st b1, 400 ($46). i wanted st b500 ($17) or both st b1, 000 ($34). it turns out they're actual sisters (same biological father / mother, not just close friends that call themselves sisters) , they don't look very similar but i'll take their word for it. in pi in oct 2010 i had been with half-sisters (they had the same father) , but here was a chance to do 2 full sisters. i'm reluctant since nineteen says eighteen will give a cbj (condom bj) and boom-boom me, but nineteen will only boom-boom me. nineteen says for both st b1, 300, i said both smoke me (even if with condoms) and both boom-boom me, and it's a deal. once at my hotel room they both strip naked (no 'i'm shy' bs) and have cute bodies but stomachs aren't toned; they should dance as gogos to firm up those abs. i try one last time for a bbbj but nineteen says it's dangerous, chance of getting hiv, i've slept with many ladies so i may have caught something. i can't argue with her reasoning so put on a rubber, nineteen blows me then boom-boom while eighteen waits her turn. nineteen gets off me, i put on another rubber, eighteen blows me then boom while nineteen's hanging out. i finish, oddly nineteen asks me to go down on her, i tell her no and we're done. since they're supposedly both college students i pay them b1, 300 + tip b100, and they leave. so this threesome was pretty much the same as my pi threesome with the half-sisters, no teamwork, no tag-teaming me, no alternating mouths blowing me, sigh. nonetheless for b1, 400 ($46) i got my money's worth and helped out two fellow college students, who seemed happy with their paycheck (though eighteen really wanted cunnilingus). if i wanted a superb threesome and coughed up the dough, i would just go to devil's den.

http://devilsdenpattaya.com/

day 15: mon / 24 oct, birthday party.

so my other pals arrived to patts and that night we did an early celebration of my birthday. i loathe holidays (except for chinese new year's for family reasons) and i avoid anything special for my birthday or even acknowledging it, but several of my friends happened to be in patts while i was there, and a night out was so cheap, what the hell. first from approx 8 – 9 pm we started at a beer bar in simon (right). second around 9 – 10 pm we went to baccara gogo to ogle hot, naked gogos. third about 10 – 11 pm we went to airport gogo where my friends paid b1, 000+ ($34+) to the business so i could (against my will) hop in the bathtub / shower with the 2 naked dancers (i kept my shorts / boxers on though the 2 ladies kept trying to pull them off). fourth 11 pm – 12 am we did happy gogo to cap the festivities. there was 8 guys in our group but the total damage for the alcohol for all 4 places was < b8, 000 (<$263) , about < b2, 000 ($66) at each business to cover our booze and to tip the waitresses / staff and buy a mamasan a ld here and there.

fun night and since it was only day 15 but i was already up to friend 16 i didn't feel the need to get a chick that night.

day 16: tue / 25 oct, friend 17.

all my notes indicate are: friend 17. cim. st b500 ($17) + tip b100 ($3). overall / service / face / body. i assume i picked her up from cb, probably because she takes cim. wish i remembered to take a photo of her.

day 17: wed / 26 oct, runner 3, friend 18.

friend 18, age 23, 5'4'.90 lbs. st b700 ($23). overall b = service c + face b + body a. about 2 am i approached friend 18, who was with her 2 friends, told her st b500, lt b1, 000, she talked to her friends then agreed to my proposal for lt b1, 000. during sex i got a finger up to the first knuckle up her anus, but she said it was too painful so anal intercourse was out of the question. after i finished she got dressed and ready to leave, so i wanted to pay her b500. she said that the deal was for st b1, 000, which was complete bs (she was trying to scam me as if i was fresh off the boat) and i considered just giving her b500 and telling her to go tell a cop i short-changed her (a cop wouldn't care since it's a he said / she said pricing discrepancy). then again i did stick a finger up her ass so she could tell a copy my finger molested her bunghole. so i said 'b600, ' then 'b700' which she acquiesced to. we parted ways peacefully.

day 18: thu / 27 oct, friend 19

friend 19, pong, age 24, 5'4'.105 lbs. lt b1, 220 ($40) = escort b1, 000 ($34) + tip b200 ($6) + taxi b20 ($.70).3-holer, cim. has a kid. overall b = service a + face c + body c. the pregnancy wasn't too kind to her booms. i met friend 19 on cb and she agreed to lt b1, 000 ($34). she said i was the first guy to boom-boom her ass. we did 3 rounds and she was such a sweet gfe that i tipped her b200 + b20 for a songtaew / taxi.

day 19: fri / 28 oct, friend 20 (+ friend 21)

friend 20 (see left photo) , age 24, 5'4'.95 lbs. st b520 ($18) = escort b500 ($17) + taxi b20 ($.70). cim. has a kid. overall b = service b + face b + body c. slim figure but had pregnancy stretch marks. about 9 pm met her on cb and she had agreed to anal but at my hotel room she reneged. that was kinda irritating since i had popped a ½ special k in anticipation of entering the backdoor. her bj skills were excellent and we finished with cim. we talked a little and she said sometimes (i'm guessing really old guys) fled her and didn't even have intercourse or a bj, but just wanted to talk to her. i replied that i won't even ever resort to that.

friend 21 (see right two photos) , age 22, 5'2'.90 lbs. lt b1, 220 ($40) = escort b1, 000 ($33) + tip b200 ($6) + taxi b20 ($.70). overall b = service b + face a + body a. 4:30 am her and i left insomnia. before entering my hotel i told her st b500, lt b1, 000 but she insisted on lt b1, 500 which i considered agreeing to. in my room i reminded her lt b1, 000 and she said lt b1, 500 so we didn't really agree on pricing before we started making out. as she laid on my bed i slipped her panties off and starting fingering her. she didn't seem to care to take the them time to shower so we just started having intercourse. she was really good in bed but only did a bit of bj, no anal and no cim. we did at least a 2nd round before her departure. i gave her b1, 200 and told her that the b20 'for taxi' and she accepted the salary. good times with her hot little spinner body and intercourse appetite.

day 20: sat / 29 oct, day of rest.

since i was hanging out with my pals and i was up to friend 21, my family jewels got some rest.

day 21: sun / 30 oct, friend 2's circle again, friend 22.

friend 22 (see photo) , age 23, 5'5'.105 lbs. lt b1, 020 ($34) = escort b1, 000 ($33) + taxi b20 ($.70). anal. overall b = service a + face c + body c. has a kid i think. so i saw friend 2 and friend 22 at insomnia at about 4 am and it seemed that they were friends, or at the very least knew each other. friend 22 agreed to lt b1, 000 so once back at my place during sex she agrees to anal. she says it's her first time doing it, who knows. the next morning after at least a 2nd round i give her the money and she leaves.

epilogue: i think being on good terms with friend 2 greatly helped hooking up with her 2 friends (friend 8 and friend 22) who also fl at insomnia. there was a 3rd friend of hers who i wanted to tap and i got her from insomnia to my hotel lobby, but once there she got cold feet and didn't want to sleep with / do me or even step into my hotel room. i wasn't sure if it was because i would have been her first john (making a her a true amateur fl) , or that she heard that i tapped friends 2 and 8 in the ass (at that point i hadn't met friend 22 yet) , or what. really disappointing because the chick had a really cute face that i really wanted to screw. oh well.

day 22: mon / 31 oct, best bj, friend 23.

friend 23, age 25, 5'4'.95 lbs. st b580 ($19) = escort b500 ($17) + tip b80 ($2. 60). cim. has a kid. overall b = service a + face b + body c. for an older chick, cute face, but her body wasn't great what with the pregnancy stretch marks; at least she was pretty slim. i meet her on cb and once at my hotel room she gives the best bj of the entire trip. finish with cim and i pay her and tip b80. i asked about lt but she wanted b1, 500 so i declined, but i kept her in mind for my last night in patts during which i get a repeat escort (which i usually don't do) so i know there won't be any drama.

day 23: tue / 1 nov, second soi 6, bangkok gogo, friend 24 (+ friend 25)

friend 24, donut, age 19, 5'2'.90 lbs. soi 6 st b1, 080 ($36) = bf incl / st room upstairs b300 ($10) + escort b700 ($23) + tip b80 ($2. 70). cim. overall a = service a + face b + body a. the day before while walking down soi 6 she intercepted me. we talked and she claimed to be from bangkok (the flooding dampening its p4p scene so some escorts were working patts) and that she knows no one in patts pays bangkok escort prices, especially on soi 6. she also claims that she has a japanese boyfriend / sponsor who gives her b35, 000 a month ($1, 148 / mo). i negotiated her down to escort fee b500, but since i wanted anal (and she says i'the be her first for that) and also cim we settle on b700 and meeting tue / 1 nov about 5 pm. so i show up, after i pay the bartender the bf b300 we go to the upstairs room and she says how about b1, 000 total to compensate for breaking her cherry anal, but then changes her mind again that she shouldn't do it since when her japanese boyfriend comes to los next week and if he wants anal, he'll know her cherry's popped. good grief, though i brought ky like she asked me to the anal wasn't that important to me when cim's on the table (or in her mouth. zing). she's really good at intercourse, has a great petite figure with decently sized tits given her tiny frame, gives an excellent bj and takes cim like a champ. i pay her fee of b700 + tip b80. we talk a little and i ask how come she still hooks when she has a b30k / mo sponsor (i was testing her and she corrected me saying that it was b35k / mo). she said 'i enjoy my work' which seemed evident to me during our round, and that that's not enough money when she wants a house, a car and more things. i asked about bkk gogo prices (she claimed to normally work at a gogo in bkk's nana entertainment plaza) and she said bf b600 ($20) + st b2, 500 ($82) or lt before. 000 ($132) , which sounded about right for bkk gogo retail prices. assuming she does actually normally work at a bkk gogo, i saved a bundle getting her at soi 6.

epilogue: some factoids. since the bkk flooding was affecting more of its districts, by nov more escorts (among others) were making their way to patts. for halloween the night before some of the gogos decorated (especially angelwitch gogo) and some women dressed up (at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s i was telling my pal to get blown by the pregnant zombie escort) , but mostly it was business as usual.

regarding anal when i brought it up to friend 24, a what's up, playgirl? gogo, an airport gogo, a babydolls gogo all 4 of them copped a feel of mini-me to make sure 'you not too big, ' decided that i wasn't too big (so sad) , and agreed to fuck ass (friend 24, what's up & airport chicks also said i would be the first). i didn't take any 4 up on the offer because friend 24 was wishy-washy plus wanted a b300 ($10) anal surcharge, and the other 3 were just expensive coming from gogos with the bf b600 ($20) plus st 2, 000 ($67) and lt b3, 000 ($100) , which would be hard to negotiate down when they were reluctant to boom-boom ass to begin with. plus there was the possibility that they would reneged on the fuck ass part once we were back in my room with mini-me trying to make his (not so grand) entrance. on a somewhat related note, if i was a 'chocolate man' (ie black guy) they (and the escorts i did analize) would have never agreed to fuck ass. some escorts won't go with a chocolate man or any guy 'too big' for st / lt, period. so there are escorts who turned down guys who were too big (or even just perceived to be too big) , but i don't know of an instance where an escort rejected a guy because he wasn't big enough (ie too small).

friend 25, age 21, 5'4'.105 lbs. lt b1, 020 ($35) = b1, 000 ($34) + taxi b20 ($.70). overall b = service a + face b + body c. around 3:30 am friend 25 approached me at insomnia, starting dancing / grinding against me, and she agreed to lt b1, 000. at my place we did round 1 (pop 1) , she went to sleep and in a few hours i was horny again. i don't think she did bjs, and i wasn't in the mood for intercourse or even waking her up, so i just did a hand party. i finished (pop 2) on her body, in her semi-conscious state she wiped the cum off her with the bed sheet and went back to sleep. few hours later i was horny again (probably the special k effects) , did another hand party (pop 3) on to her backside, she again wiped the cum off with the bed sheet. about 12 noon i was horny again but she was still asleep, so i put on a condom, eased into her vagina and started tapping her. she slowly woke up, started to help me with the intercourse (finally, round 2) , and i finished (pop 4). during round 2 i realized how she had big, child-bearing hips which wasn't my thing, oh well, i was kinda buzzin' when i went home with her. at any rate, after round 2 / pop 4 (thanks kamagra) , i paid and she left. she did say that she had just quit working at a soi 6 dance club, the one across from passions dance club beer bar (basically a gogo set-up).

day 24: wed / 2 nov, no boobs day, friend 26 (+ friend 27)

friend 26 (see photo left) , age 26, 5'3'.85 lbs. st b520 ($18) = b500 + taxi b20 ($.70). cim. has a kid. overall b = service b + face b + body c. 9 pm i picked her up from cb, no negotiating down the price required, at my hotel once she's naked she's got the smallest boob of all friends 1 – 31, complete mosquito bites. still, her face was decently cute for a chick in her mid-20s though she did have some pregnancy stretch marks. the attractiveness was secondary to cim which she did no problem. paid her with a taxi tip and we parted ways.

friend 27 (see photo right) , age 18, 5'2'.85 lbs. lt 1, 020 ($35) = b1, 000 ($34) + taxi b20 ($.70). overall b = service b + face b + body b. around 1 am on cb i came across friend 27 with 2 of her friends. her 2 friends did the translating / most of the negotiating and encouraged her to go with me. i tipped each of the friends b20 ($.70) for their assistance, went with friend 27 back to my place. i wasn't sure she was 18 but she had an i'd card, and considering she was about 18 and never had a kid even though she was working beach road, i didn't want to pass the chance up. total 3 rounds, and since she didn't want cim a couple times it was cof.

day 25: thu / 3 nov, florist, friend 28.

friend 28, age 18, 5'2'.95 lbs. st b620 ($21) = escort b500 ($17) + tip b100 ($3) + taxi b20 ($.70). overall b = service b + face c + body b. i found her on cb around 9 pm and was glad that she was 18 with no kids, though she was a little beyoncé meaty. i don't remember if she did bjs (i'll assume that she didn't) but i did take ½ special k pill for boom-boom. during sex she says she's never tried anal but lets me put my finger in her anus, says it's too painful. strangely, she was willing to do anal intercourse, but then mini-me was not up to the challenge even though i had taken kamagra. what the hell, an 18 year old virgin anus was being offered and mini-me turned it down. i finished, wanted to get her for lt but for whatever reason she didn't do lts, and said that if i see her again we could go for another st. her regular job was at a floral shop and she said she only fl when she ran out of money to pay for her bills / food, otherwise she doesn't fl. sadly, over the next few days i never saw her or her virgin bunghole again, otherwise i would have fled her, taken a full kamagra pill and de-virginized her rectum. also, she wouldn't let me take her photo. so sad, but on to the last few chicks.

day 26: fri / 4 nov, docked pay, friend 29 (+ friend 30)

friend 29, age 29, 5'3'.95 lbs. st 620 ($21) = escort b600 ($20) + taxi b20 ($.70). has a kid. overall c = service c + face b + body c. about 9 pm i met her on br, she wanted st b1, 000 ($34) , i countered st b500 ($17). she said she did cim, and offered st b700 ($23) , which i agreed to since i didn't feel like negotiating further, i just wanted cim. as it turns out her being 29 and having a kid had a noticeable negative impact on her body once she was naked in my room, but i was more interested in her mouth. her bj skills were good but while teabagging it felt as if she almost dislocated / detached one of my testicles, and when i indicated i was in pain (saying 'goddamn' or something) she didn't even apologize. that kind of killed my desire for her to continue with the bj so it was time for cim. instead of cim, it became a cof since she wouldn't open her mouth for the cim. i was annoyed and though about just paying her b500, but said screw it, gave her b600+ taxi b20. she complained that i was supposed to pay b700, fortunately i got her outside my room (ie away from my netbook / fragile stuff) and as i slammed the door on her i told her 'you no cum in mouth. ' a few minutes later she was gone from my hallway. i definitely overpaid by b120 ($4) but it was better than dealing with that headache during my last patts weekend.

friend 30 (see photo) , age 23, 5'3'.105 lbs. lt b1, 120 ($38) = b1, 000 ($34) + tip b100 ($3) + taxi b20 ($.70). overall b = service + face c + body b. about 4:30 am while at insomnia friend 29 and i started dancing and talking. i mistakenly thought she was the x-zone gogo cute, sex showgirl / dart girl (terrible aim, out of 5 shots she missed twice but 3 shots were direct hits popping the 3 balloons; i blame it on her youthful inexperience since most sex showgirls are older and mostly unattractive). she agrees to lt b1, 000, at my place for round 1 there's a bj and intercourse. later we do round 2, i think it was just intercourse. after more sleep she gives me a bj for round 3. as she's leaving she says that she worked pretty hard for the money with me since usually she gets st b1, 000, and before meeting me, earlier that night she was with an australian john who only wanted her for st (and he paid b1, 000). so she says that for b1, 000 with the australian she only had to do 1 round, but with me she did 3 rounds (lots of work). of all the friends, she had the biggest boobs and they weren't really sloppy either, so that compensated for her thickness.

day 27: sat / 5 nov, mission accomplished, friend 31.

friend 31, ta, age 19, 5'2'.90 lbs. lt b1, 220 ($40) = b1, 100 ($36) + tip b100 ($3) + b20 ($.70). overall a = service a + face b + body a. about 1 am on cb i met ta, who i had seen on several previous nights and had meant to fled her. she agrees to lt b1, 000 but at my hotel i find out she wants cbj, not bbbj. i convince her to do bbbj for an extra b100 ($3). she has an incredible spinner body with (relatively) decently sized breasts, and is really into boom-boom. over the course of the night we do 3 rounds. i was really happy with the service / body, even though cim wasn't on the menu. as it turns out, she's also ½ chinese, ½ thai.

so my goal was 30 friends in 30 days which i hit ahead of schedule, and even finished at 31 friends. rest of this trip i would take it easy and not worry my quantity of escorts. on future trips i won't be so focused on averaging 1 escort per day.

day 28: sun / 6 nov, repeat, friend 19 (again)

for my last night on a monger trip i get a repeat so i know what sex to expect from her, and so that i know she's low maintenance. on a few occasions while i jogging on br (about 3 miles round-trip) i had seen friend 19 again, and sometimes we chatted. one time while jogging by she stopped me and gave me a fresh, cold bottled water to drink (it's only b10 ($.33) , but it was a sweet gesture) to rehydrate with. another time i gave her and her friend (chubby chick who liked to fuck ass, but she wasn't my type) b100 ($3) for them to get some food. so we were on gfe / bfe terms it seemed.

i happened to see her on sun / 6 nov at 9 pm so i asked her how much for lt until mon / 7 nov 6 pm (at which time i had to catch the shuttle to the airport). she said 'up to you' and i said b1, 500, which she agreed to. so she was with me approx. 21 hrs, and in that time for round 1 & 2 it was bjs / cims, for round 3 i just cummed on her body, for round 4 & 5 it was bjs / cims. i wasn't interested in intercourse, and she said she said bjs was perfectly fine as long as i was happy. she only ate once in that time, and she didn't even finish ½ of the b40 ($1. 30) pork fried rice since she's a light eater. in the end i gave her b1, 500 as agreed + tip b100 ($3) + taxi b20. i also gave her some stuff i was going to leave behind for my hotel housekeeper to keep or throw away. it was my thai sim card with credit of b108 ($3. 50) and my old: nike free shoes, pair of flip-flops. 2 dress shirts, pair of shorts, some t-shirts, pair of socks, and such (she said she wanted them to give to her dad).

at 6 pm on monday (day 29) i catch the bell travel service airport shuttle and die a little on the inside as i head to the airport to depart los. my flight was at 12:30 am tue / 8 nov (day 30).

Luvpuss

11-21-11, 04:33

You may be the greatest poster in the history of this site.

Good Job!

Mr Enternational

11-21-11, 05:16

I brought a girl home who I have seen in the disco plenty of times over at least the last couple of years. I never knew her name or anything though. Come to find out she is a showgirl in Alcatraz agogo. I said why aren't you at work then? She said she barfined herself because she has money. 1,000 baht. Then of course she only wanted 1,000 baht from me for all night. Huh? Kind of reminds me of the joke about the guys with the truck and the melons.

It's like the old story of 2 guys that buy a truck load of melons for a dollar each. And then sell them for a dollar each. At the end of the day they had sold every melon but realized they had lost money. They thought about it for a while and came up with a solution. They just need a bigger truck.But how does it feel to pay 1,000 for a girl that other guys pay 1,000 barfine plus 2,000 or 3,000 long time for? Well, for me, normal. She was telling me about the shitty work rules. She said they have to pay 5 baht for every minute they are late. (She asked why she does not get paid more for being early.) She said they can not smoke and can not be drunk. They have to get guys to buy them 60 drinks/month. How do they stay sober with guys buying them drinks? She said they get 50 baht/drink that is bought for them. But they can only drink Sang Som with coke, water, juice, and something else I can not remember. If they get something else that is premium they do not get the 50 baht. They have to get at least 5 barfines/month. She said that agogo is better than the disco for work financially because they get tips and all the money from the drinks, then the big barfine and the 2,000 or 3,000 that the guy has to pay them. She said in the disco she will only get 1,000 or 1,500 max, and every blue moon some guy will give 2,000.

She is 20 now but came to Pats to work when she was 15. She worked at a bar on Soi 7. I asked how she was able to do that. She said they don't check ID (so be careful at the bars as well gentlemen) or anything. And if the police came to raid? There was a beauty salon in back of the bar so she could just go inside of the salon. She said that girls go with guys for free all the time if they like them (something I already knew however many mongers shun freebies). She said that once she stayed with a guy for 10 days and he only gave her 1,500 baht. She said his reasoning was that he fed her everyday and bought her shoes at the mall. She took his passport. Then there was another guy who was staying in a hotel for 5,000 baht / day who wouldn't pay her the 1,000 baht he owed. She destroyed the hotel room door.

Devilspinkick

11-21-11, 08:01

A few days ago I was strolling down Soi 12. I was looking for an internet cafe but happened to pass a few massage parlors. A little lady yelled out to me "Hey! I-wantah-mah-sahz yoooo!". I looked over and noticed that she sort of resembled that porn star Jade Marcela (both her face & general body type) , so I couldn't help myself and had to see what she might be up to. She took me into this small massage place with beds that were only seperated by curtains so I knew right then that FS wouldn't be on the menu. Oh well. I got showered up and laid on the bed. She was quite flirty and made it very obvious that she was willing to take things further at a later date. Apparently she will visit you at your hotel if you click with her. Her massage skills where definitely above par, and she ended the deed with an HE (in this case her dainty but strong little hands double pumping to completion). She invited me to come back or perhaps contact her for an outcall. Something to consider. The name of the place was "Lai Thai Massage", I think.

Still touring the Go-Gos a bit. Stopped off in Airport Go-Go last night and had a good time. Liked the gals in flight attendant uniforms, it will give me something to think about during my long flight on Cathay Pacific back to the US. They also have a wash tub and the dames were being very naughty. Mamasan was cool and I had a good time chatting her up. Of course some gals wanted me to take them out but I had other plans that night. Maybe later.

I had planned to book a couple of gals from the Devil's Den for some fun on Sunday but was informed that they are no longer open on Sundays as of this month. What a shame. No worries, since I had already done it once before at DD and then I also BF'd two chicks from Lollipop Go-Go for a menage a trois. However, I think I'll stick with the one to one for the rest of the trip. We'll see.

So much sin; so little time.

- DSK

Mr Enternational

11-21-11, 09:30

She took me into this small massage place with beds that were only seperated by curtains so I knew right then that FS wouldn't be on the menu.That shouldn't stop the show. The only times I have done FS in a massage parlor there has been that type of setup as well.

LittleBigMan

11-21-11, 12:26

That shouldn't stop the show. The only times I have done FS in a massage parlor there has been that type of setup as well.I second that, in Pattaya majority of the places just have a curtain but you be surprise what can be done with just so little separation.

LBM

Stakeout

11-22-11, 11:10

Kumar Arun

11-22-11, 11:46

Warning: Do not read this report if you're easily bored or really negative / critical.Just Vow buddy. Tons of patience, eye for details. This must be linked to Wikipedia.)

Dummies for 1st timers in LOS.

AK

Lord Farquard

11-22-11, 12:25

Has anyone barfined any of the girls standing outside the gogos promoting the place? What's the deal? Are they the same price as the regular dancers? And how do yo best go about it? Ask her inside the bar for a drink or barfine her straight away?Depends on the bar, but usually they are the same gals that you see inside, just not dancing. Some bars have the girls that are not in rotation at that time troll for customers outside. I have found it best just to smile, put your arm around her and take her inside for a drink, or if they have some tables outside, ask her to sit with you and conduct your interview there.

Mr Enternational

11-22-11, 12:46

Has anyone barfined any of the girls standing outside the gogos promoting the place? What's the deal? Are they the same price as the regular dancers? And how do yo best go about it? Ask her inside the bar for a drink or barfine her straight away?There are different tiers that increase in price. All barfinable.

Tier 1 = Waitress.

Tier 2 = Hostess.

Tier 3 = Dancer / Showgirl

Stakeout

11-22-11, 12:59

There are different tiers that increase in price. All barfinable.

Tier 1 = Waitress.

Tier 2 = Hostess.

Tier 3 = Dancer / ShowgirlWhat can be the price difference between these? And is there a price difference just between barfine or also for ST and LT fee?

Love Sosua

11-22-11, 19:35

What is the best way to find a nice apartment in Pattaya? Does anyone know a real estate agent that I can contact?

Fun And Sun

11-23-11, 01:58

Dude, did you choose your name from your frequent hotel stayer card, LOL?

Anyway, a well written report, so thank you. A few of your observations I disagree with but that is a bit inevitable. I think you should go ahead and post a selection of your pics for us all to enjoy.

Keep up the good work.

Amex Spg

11-23-11, 02:30

I tried uploading the PDF file but the website said "LOS Oct 2011 Trip Report for ISG. Pdf. Your file of 823. 5 KB bytes exceeds the forum's limit of 390. 6 KB for this filetype." I tried uploading 4 x pics and the website said "The file (s) uploaded were too large to process." So I tried uploading 1 x pic and the website said "Friend 6, Oct 2011, Pic 1. JPG. Upload of file failed." Epic fail on my part and I've given up on trying to upload anything.

I'm just a luddite who stole my handle from an old frequent hotel stayer card. If you want the PDF+Word files with the photos embedded, PM me your e-mail address. Sorry. I have forwarded the files to several ISG members who PM'd me, so I'm good on my word.

On a related note: I'll be in Patts again 1 thru 29 May 2012 so if you want to meet up for a drink / beer, let me know which date (s) you're free to meet up.

Dude, did you choose your name from your frequent hotel stayer card, LOL?

Anyway, a well written report, so thank you. A few of your observations I disagree with but that is a bit inevitable. I think you should go ahead and post a selection of your pics for us all to enjoy.

Keep up the good work.

Zandar

11-23-11, 09:04

Young girl named Pla I met her in WS. I spent 1. 5 bh over night, all inclusive. Nice but only if you like.

Passive girl.

Lakon.

Z

Vittu

11-24-11, 15:36

Hotman 666

11-24-11, 15:51

We'll be on a cruise a year from now. My plan is to taxi from Laem Chabang to Bangkok, get a room on the river, spend the night and then head back to the port. But what about alternatives. Been to Pattaya. Does Chonburi and environs offer anything? I'm mostly interested just in watching Thai life and spend time on a beach, preferably with clean water. May do a massage or two.Vittu,

You could try Bang Saen,

A nice quiet 'Thai style' beach resort and quite near Laem Chambang.

I recently spent a few days there with a playmate. Rather relaxing, and GREAT sea food.

In my opinion a rather nice place to spend a day or two IF you have company but NOT one to go alone!

The best 2 hotels are probably Sez and Tides but there are others.

Hotman

Vittu

11-24-11, 18:45

Thanks for an excellent recommendation. Who knows what we will do? Might even stay overnight in Pattaya to see how the place has morphed over more than two decades since I last last there.

Gray Malkin

11-24-11, 19:26

Nomadic Mong

11-24-11, 19:28

Uncle Volodya

11-24-11, 19:56

NICELY DONE!

She reminds me of the lovely French-Vietnamese PS Sharron Lee. Super cute!

I love WS. What a great place to pickup fresh hotties without that rough working girl edge. I am glad to hear its still going strong.

Young girl named Pla I met her in WS. I spent 1. 5 bh over night, all inclusive. Nice but only if you like.

Passive girl.

Lakon.

Z

TomJackin

11-25-11, 04:54

May I seek advice for a Dec Holiday visit around 18 to 26 of Dec? Wondering if Pats light up differently during Christmas holidays (good or bad). Any advice please as I never been in Patts during holidays.

I was just there in Aug and couple of months before that. So it will be 3 time around this year. I was told, December attracts larger crowd and may make the scene livelier.That is around high season and there will be more tourists, but also more girls. Most of the girls could care less about Christmas, which makes the place a good choice. I was there the same time frame last December and had a blast as usual.

One thing that was different was that the town tried to cater to the tourists with Christmas lights and decorations on Beach Road, etc. Send me a PM if you want to meet up.

Mr Enternational

11-25-11, 11:07

One thing that was different was that the town tried to cater to the tourists with Christmas lights and decorations on Beach Road, etc. Send me a PM if you want to meet up.Outside in front of Central Festival is one the biggest Christmas trees that I have seen in my life. It is like 5 stories high. Where the hell do they store that thing and how do they assemble it.

Showdown

11-25-11, 22:42

What is the best way to find a nice apartment in Pattaya? Does anyone know a real estate agent that I can contact?Http://www.soidb.com/pattaya/apartment/index.html

Michi

11-26-11, 09:11

Purple Bus

11-27-11, 18:00

Your taste is up to you.

You will probably more lucky on Beach Road with a FL for that.Or ask in bars generally, BGs do get pregnant now and again, they would see it as a bonus LOL.

Devilspinkick

11-29-11, 10:16

That shouldn't stop the show. The only times I have done FS in a massage parlor there has been that type of setup as well.

Everyone has their own tastes, I reckon. I'd personally prefer not to do FS with other blokes just a thin curtain away. So for FS at an MP I visit places such as the Sabai Dee Triad near the Big C. I also paid a visit to Honey Soapie Massage on Soi 11. Decent place, though most of the chicks there were too chubby for my tastes. However, I found one little cutie to have fun with.

Overall a very enjoyable trip. May have to make a repeat visit next year.

- DSK

Monopoly

11-29-11, 20:04

Showdown

11-30-11, 01:21

Dear Members

I will be going soon to Pattaya.

And have a question.

Does anybody know in Soi 6, a pregnant lady or a Lady who is lactating milk working there.

I will be there next month.

Thanks,

GrayLactating girls can be found all over beach road. Most of those girls have young children and are lactating. I would say maybe 20% of them. However most of them are shy to tell you that they are while you are talking to them on the street. I would start off the conversation by asking them do they have kids and how old. Women love to talk about their kids. Its a good chance if their child is under 18 months they are lactating.

Fon Tok

11-30-11, 03:27

After reading some recent reports from obvious newbies here I think it is time for a reminder:
1. Do not pay girls fee up front (You will probably get poor service or scammed if you do) 2. Beer bar BG's are 500 ST / 1000 LT
1) Good advice to pay at the end, but not all of the ladies are out to take advantage. Right now, the beginning of high season, there are a lot of new girls who don't know the "game" very well as they are just starting out.

2) That's your base. Everyone else, pay what you want. Every baht you give will be appreciated, especially if you are respectful and treat the woman that way.

Sure, it's a business and there's a lot of sharp cookies out there in Pattaya, but I've met more than my fair share that are sweet and have kind hearts, too.

Cunning Stunt

11-30-11, 06:05

Outside in front of Central Festival is one the biggest Christmas trees that I have seen in my life. It is like 5 stories high. Where the hell do they store that thing and how do they assemble it.Spent a pleasant hour, one day at the end of October, watching workmen erecting that big bastard. It was assembled in bloody great segments like an enormous 3D jigsaw puzzle.

WildHawk

11-30-11, 23:30

Spent a pleasant hour, one day at the end of October, watching workmen erecting that big bastard. It was assembled in bloody great segments like an enormous 3D jigsaw puzzle.CS, I think our American politicians, who are beside themselves battling over whether to call 'them Christmas trees or "holiday" trees, ought to adopt your most excellent use of words.

Couldn't resist!

Naked Gunz

12-02-11, 03:42

LittleBigMan

12-02-11, 09:00

I only recently found out that so called,"legit" massage parlors are offering FS. I really thought only the soapies did this.

Actually it males sense because the poor girl is making crap money otherwise.

But do restaurants let you barfine the waitresses too? I mean they seem legit. It seems to me that most of them.

Will not and a restaurant is the one of the places a woman that wants to earn a living standing up can go.N. G,

Just my personal experience and opinion on this subject. There are many legit massage parlors throughout Pattaya that aren't doing any extras excluding FS, and you need to be careful in your approach. My own rule of thumb is the location of the parlor? For example: If the place is located on Soi Buakhao or off on another Soi most likely it will offer extras, or a parlor on Soi Post Office, a massage parlor located where there are plenty of BeerBars. Smoke glass windows and girls sitting outside calling you handsome man? If you ask for a oil massage and after your shower you return and lay down on the mat and she returns and doesn't cover your fat ass with a towel that is a hint for me at least? There are many former bargirls that are tired of the scene that go to work in a parlor.

When it comes to restaurants you need to be careful and don't just start grabbing ass or assuming? Just like home, you smile and try to strike up a conversation and learn more about her. I found that if she speak some English or is working in a restaurant in a tourist area and working for a Farang restaurant you have a greater chance that she might allow you to take her out sometime but you are going to put in some work. I had friends go to Beergarden as a regular in town and fancy a few of the waitress and have met up with them on their off days. The problem with these is that they get attached to you thinking it is much more than a quickie?

LBM

Mr Enternational

12-02-11, 18:53

When it comes to restaurants you need to be careful and don't just start grabbing ass or assuming? Just like home, you smile and try to strike up a conversation and learn more about her. I found that if she speak some English or is working in a restaurant in a tourist area and working for a Farang restaurant you have a greater chance that she might allow you to take her out sometime but you are going to put in some work.In addition he will have to be there a long ass time because their off days are few and far between.

Naked Gunz

12-03-11, 10:27

N. G,

When it comes to restaurants you need to be careful and don't just start grabbing ass or assuming?

LBMThanks Mr. E and LBM,

That's what I thought. It's not take out like a Go Go or Bar Beer, but a regular chick you would have to pursue.

Fck Dick

12-03-11, 17:30

Are there any Wi-Fi spots in Pattaya? Where I can carry Laptop or tablet and connect for free? How about Cyber cafes? Where are they located? How much they charge?

Thanks in advance

Gin And Tonic

12-03-11, 17:55

Run Mann

12-03-11, 18:02

Are there any Wi-Fi spots in Pattaya? Where I can carry Laptop or tablet and connect for free? How about Cyber cafes? Where are they located? How much they charge?

Thanks in advanceSeveral cafes around town charge less than one Baht per minute or 30 Baht for an hour. You can connect for free at Subway (near Big C on 2d Road or on BR near Soi 5 and Soi 10) as well as McDonald's restaurants and many other places, even in some massage shops, just ask them for the password. Chivarome Health Massage, South Pattaya Road is one such shop. Also try http://www.3bbhotspot.com/home/index.php as they have hotspots all over town.

Run Mann

12-03-11, 18:14

Where would one find a Nigerian or other black chick in PattsSaw three of them sitting at the rooftop of the Royal Garden about an hour ago, definitely look like they were in the business. You can probably catch them on WS now.

TomJackin

12-03-11, 20:04

well we have had the uzbeks, the nigerians, and now we have the colombians.are you kidding me? that is a long way for a colombian to travel to work, but i'm sure there it is a good market for them.

this means i don't have to travel to st. maarten, panama city, or to medellin to get my colombian fix; yippee!

see you soon my friend.

Gin And Tonic

12-03-11, 22:49

Saw three of them sitting at the rooftop of the Royal Garden about an hour ago, definitely look like they were in the business. You can probably catch them on WS now.thanks RM, still 13 time zones away but will be there next weekend, been in RG many times@Coffee Club (nice fillet steak) but never on roof, what is up there

Cunning Stunt

12-04-11, 04:59

Where would one find a Nigerian or other black chick in PattsMet a couple of African girls on Beach Road, when I was in Pattaya recently. One of the girls, from Botswana, was eminently fukable and I toyed with the idea of 'walking' her as a bit of a change. But she just had far too much attitude which led me to suspect that she might be trouble so I let it pass.

StarChildXXX

12-04-11, 06:03

Met a couple of African girls on Beach Road, when I was in Pattaya recently. One of the girls, from Botswana, was eminently fukable and I toyed with the idea of 'walking' her as a bit of a change. But she just had far too much attitude which led me to suspect that she might be trouble so I let it pass.There's a gang of them that hang out at Club Flex! Make a right at McDONALDS on Walking St. New Hip-Hop club (well, new to me ). Club is FIRE! Everybody seems to migrate over there after Lucifer's winds down. I don't think you'll be disappointed!

Run Mann

12-04-11, 06:24

thanks RM, still 13 time zones away but will be there next weekend, been in RG many times@Coffee Club (nice fillet steak) but never on roof, what is up thereSeveral food service providers offering different food choices. Some a little overpriced but a nice change of pace to the regular dining experience

Amex Spg

12-05-11, 15:00

appreciation: thank you, positive isg posters. i've learned lots and was inspired to contribute myself.

i'll be in patts 1 thru 29 may 2012. if any isg member wants to meet up for a drink / beer, pm me.

warning: do not read this report if you're easily bored or really negative / critical.

i wrote this guide (an annex to my 'los oct 2011 trip report') to help newbies or those wanting advice. ymmv, all of this is imho, costs / times / figures are approx, hopefully i'm not talking out of my ass too much & everything's subject to change. this guide is based on my experiences and what i would / will do with a focus on saving money. i'm in my 30s, asian-american, average looking / personality, cheap.

approx exchange rate i'm using is b (aht) 30. 5 = us $1 (or b100 = $3. 40)

maps of patts.

- overview (+jomtien+naklua)

http://bit.ly/rvr1qz

- gogos / beer bars.

http://www.pattayabarguide.com/

(map dated sep 2011 & looks current)

- dark side.

http://bit.ly/ugymc1

i've never explored sukhumvit's beer bars but it's probably cheap.

table of contents.

section 1: supplies / misc.

section 2: timing / amateur fls.

section 3: minimize expenses / crime.

section 4:2008 & 2010 sexcapades / journal.

section 5: bangkok tips.

section 1: supplies / misc.

1) money exchange.

- before leaving the us i inform my atm & credit card issuers that i'll be using my cards in los.

- i obtain most baht from patts' atms for the best exchange rate (my bank reimburses me the b150 ($5) atm fee) or via the exchange windows.

- before leaving the bangkok airport (aka suvarnabhumi) for patts i have b1, 200+ ($40+) to pay for the taxi or shuttle ride. after exiting the luggage pick-up carousel, there's x / see windows, atms & a mini-mart (for a drink / to break large bills).

- on a patts outing i carry a copy of my passport (champagne gogo once asked for my passport to allow admittance) & enough spending money for the day (if i run out i know i've used my budget) ; don't carry atm / credit cards unless i intend to use them. i prefer to have a combinations of bills but lots of b20 for tips / in case vendors don't have change, coins b10 for baht bus and b5 for pay toilets. in my room i keep accessible b1, 000, b500, b100+b100, b20 to make payment to the escort for the exact amount (ie st escort b500+tip taxi b20, or perhaps lt escort b1, 000+tip b200+taxi b20) in case my wallets empty.

2) at the tourist info booth (police kiosk on br near entrance to ws or the avenue mall) grab current patts guidebooks, maps, brochures of tourist activities i may try.

3) i tell the jasmine hotel to empty my room's mini-bar / fridge so i can fill it with stuff from friendship mini-mart (facing the ws entrance sign, walk left / eastbound on south pattaya road, the mini-mart is on your right before 2nd road) or friendship supermarket (continue on south pattaya road for about half mile (1 km) and it'll be on your right-side). the big c / major supermarkets are also good for cheap supplies. supplies i typically pick-up on day 1 or 2: ky jelly, condoms, sleeping pills (alleviate insomnia) , shampoo, mouthwash, q-tips, sunscreen, drinks, snacks.

4) drug stores (don't buy stuff off a guy on the street) : carries real viagra, knock-off viagra and kamagra (generic viagra) , a pack is b500 ($17) but i negotiate & buy multiple packs so i pay b250 ($8) per pack

- special k: 1 pack has 4 tablets. 100 mg / tablet = 8 doses when using a ½ tablet (just bite into it & place the other ½ back into packaging for later use) or 4 doses when using a full tablet for max effect.

instructions for special k (i have no experience with cialis or the gels) :

- take 25 min before a hard-on is needed (eg take it when she's showering & during foreplay it kicks in)

- works best / absorbs fastest if you take it on an empty stomach.

- if young / healthy then a ½ tablet is sufficient; if doing a threesome, elderly &/or have ed issues then take a full tablet (you can always ask the pharmacist for free medical advice on how much to take)

- helps for 7 hrs (if a hard-on last 4+ consecutive hrs immediately seek medical attention)

- must be horny / want to have sex for it to work (generally doesn't work if you have no interest in sex)

- pros: makes hard-ons stiffer, perform longer, shorter refractory period.

- cons: may get a hard-on unexpectedly, frequent usage may build tolerance (just cycle off every 7th day if taking for long periods of time eg a month)

- misc: sometimes after popping / finishing i'll still have a 2nd (softer) hard-on & the best remedy is to do the girl again (no prob if it's lt, but on soi 6 one st escort said no 2nd pop so i just did a hand-party). on very rare occasions i'll have a 3rd (soft) hard-on requiring a 3rd pop, then no more hard-ons.

5) in the us i pay $18 / mo (=$216 / yr) for just dental insurance. i may cancel that & do all dental work (exam / x-rays, cleaning, fillings) in los once a yr.

6) misc.

- my us.

www.netflix.com

wouldn't work in thailand. in may 2012 i'll check to see if.

www.amazon.com

prime video streaming works, and if google music & amazon music mp3 cloud-storage streaming works.

- porn websites are blocked in thailand (that's one sex advantage the otherwise prudish us has).

- opening a siam commercial bank account is easy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/siam_commercial_bank

or see.

http://www.scb.co.th/en/home/

just need to present a passport (must present that for any future transactions at a bank) , a phone number (hotel / cellphone) & an address (your hotel's is fine). they did once charge me a b10 ($.70) fee for quarterly (monthly?) sms / text message account update but i told them that as i'm usually not in los, to discontinue that & not charge me the b10 fee. so now i pay 0 fees, get about 2+% annual interest & have a place to store some baht, get b20 bills & see some cute bankers / tellers. when i do move to patts, it'll be even handier. there's an scb on br just before the ws entrance, and there's one at the tukcom (electronics) mall on south patts road@soi buakhao.

section 2: timing / amateur fls.

- mid-nov to mid-feb high season has the best weather / higher hotel prices / most ladies so more johns jostling for the choicest escorts & more tourist to deal with; harder to negotiate lower prices with the escorts.

- fall & spring are shoulder seasons so ok weather, pricing & selection (summer is the rainy season)

- i now avoid songkran (water festival) which in patts lasts 7 days (in other parts of los it's only a few days). at the apr 2010 songkran i got tired of getting soaked every day, having white paste smeared on my face, & how the festivities dampened the p4p scene. songkran celebrations for one day would be more than enough.

1) approx open / closing times:

- soi 6 cathouses: 1 pm – 1 am (best 4 – 7 pm: plenty of ladies who aren't worn out by earlier johns)

- ws gogos: 8 pm – 3:30 am (best 9 – 12 pm: plenty of dancers with the hottest not yet bf'the)

- beer bars: afternoon – 3:30 am (best 8 – 12 pm with gogos drawing some of their customers)

- soapies / body massage: 1 pm – 2 am (best 7 pm before the horny drunks show up & bf the best at 8+ pm)

- ws is pedestrians only (no vehicle traffic) : 7 pm – 3 am.

- ibar: happy hour 8 – 10 pm, open until 5:30 am at which point people leave or go upstairs to insomnia aka iclub (best midnight – 5:30 am) ; hookah is only b190 ($6)

- insomnia disco (aka iclub, above ibar) : happy hour 11 pm – 1 am, open until about 8 am (best 12:30 am for last chance ½ off drinks, crowded past 6 am)

2) usually my 'day' runs approx 3 pm – 6:30 am.

? : do the lt escort from last night one more time before she leaves.

- 2:45 pm : housekeeper cleans my hotel room / replace towels, i eat lunch & do stuff: buy a b50 ($1. 70) wsj asia-edition newspaper, get a 1 hr b100 ($3. 40) thai massage on soi buakhao or soi 13/1, hang at the malls, go to a koh larn (crystal island) beach via b150 ($5) round-trip ferry from the bali hai pier (just walk south from ws) , visit my tailor, see friends who are in town, back in my room lounge / use wi-fi, etc.

- 6 pm: walk or run the 3 mi (4. 8 km) road-trip br path; get a st cb cutie if i come across one (a st now alleviates the urgency / need to find a st / lt later that night) ; dinner.

- 7 or 7:30 pm: i especially enjoy seeing dancers in their regular street clothes & later mostly / fully naked in their gogos. i might sit at carousel bar (on soi diamond, in front of diamond beach hotel) as it revolves 360 degrees i see the ladies go in to superbaby, supergirl, etc. goldstar bar (junction of soi diamond & ws) , directly across from candy shop disco, is my go to ws bar to lounge & people watch since it's open 24/7, bottled water is only b30 ($1) + tip b20 ($.70) & i don't get hassled to 'play game' or 'buy me ld. '

- 9 pm – 12 am: beer bar hop & hit a few of my preferred gogos: superbaby, supergirl, baccara, happy, beach, peppermint, airport, casnovy, what's up, angelwitch &/or maybe off-ws worldwide (i'm not in to the sleazy stuff / sex shows of windmill, babydolls, x-zone, hot girls, playgirls).

(10 pm – 12 am: take a nap if i need to re-charge or just relax in my room to save some money)

- 12 am – 1 am: while checking out ws / cb escorts i walk from ws to soi 6 & just after 1 am i walk soi 6 to see if there's a fl (who just finished work / off-duty from her soi 6 place of employment) i can hire.

- 1 – 2 am: hang out at soi 7 & 8 beer bars / gogos.

- 2 – 3 am: while checking out cb escorts i walk from soi 8 area back to ws.

- 3 – 4 am: on ws i hit on the off-duty gogos / beer bargirls, fls or regular thais out partying.

- 4 – 5 am: hit ibar / iclub to dance & flirt with the highest concentration of fls at that time.

- by 6:30 am: go home with a lt escort i picked up at insomnia or on ws

migration pricing theory: ws is the biggest patts party zone (for tourists & thai women, escorts or non-p4p). of the escorts who party after work: after 1 am soi 6 employees go to ws (& the soapie girls after 2 am) , after 3:30 am gogos / beer bargirls head to ws especially ibar / insomnia. before midnight fl prefer st in hopes they'll get more sts or a lt later (if they did accept a lt before midnight, they want a premium). after midnight escorts (fl, gogos & bargirls) are more willing to do lt &/or accept a lower price (also applies to st pricing). at 1 am when fls from soi 6 become available & chances of a st john drops, that puts downward pressure on fl st / lt pricing. at 3:30 am the gogos / bargirls flood the fl market & johns are getting scarcer so the ladies' st / lt pricing power drops even more. so 3:30 – 6:30 am is my best chance to score off-duty gogos, bargirls, soi 6ers, ws fl or even an amateur fl when they're done partying they're more open to st b500 ($17) /lt b1, 000 ($34) since they may be tipsy, partied out & it's their last chance that day to get paid to get laid. (also, around the 1st of the month when bills (rent, motorbike rental fees, etc) are due or around holidays when women have to send extra money to their family might encourage women, pros & amateurs, to trick). often times all it takes is my 3 line script:

me: 'my name [. ]. what your name? '

lady: '[. ]. '

me: 'i'm 3x year old. how old you? '

lady: 'i'm xx. '

me: 'you want go with me? '

lady: 'ok. '

once she's agreed to it, start walking to my hotel and then tell her 'lt b1, 000' and usually they say ok. then i ask 'you smoke / blowjob / sucky-sucky' and usually they nod in agreement (most thai escorts will do bjs, whereas in ac (angeles city, philippines) most escorts i came across didn't do bjs). if they want more money i ask them if they'll accept cim &/or 'boom-boom ass / fuck-ass' and usually they say no. at which point i pretend that i'm not willing to pay more than lt b1, 000 because there's no 'cum in your mouth / finish in your mouth' &/or 'boom-boom ass' services provided (which are nice to have but not deal breakers for me). ultimately they'll accept the lt b1, 000 to avoid the cim / fuck ass & to not miss out on a sale at 5:30 am. i sometimes use that same ploy when negotiating for st b500 before midnight.

2) in oct 2011 i did 31 escorts in 30 days, some of them mediocre. in may i'll focus on quality / hotness over quantity, ideally 15 spinners in 29 days. typically the best for quality at low prices are off-duty gogos. of the women i've hired in my 5 patts trips apr 2007, oct 2008, feb 2009, apr 2009 or oct 2011:

bf gogos: 25% were starfish / runners / high maintenance (eg after paying bf i realize they had an attitude)

bf beer bargirls: 20% starfish / runners / high maintenance.

bf soi 6ers: 10% were starfish (i've never bf a soi 6er for lt, or recall getting a high maintenance st girl)

fl (either pro fl ie streetwalkers or off-duty gogos / bargirls) : 15% were starfish / runners / high maintenance.

amateur fl: 5% were starfish (i don't recall getting a true amateur fl that was a runner / high maintenance)

nowadays i prefer fls & soi 6ers because they're better values = lower pricing + higher chances of a gfe / positive experience. i had really bad luck when i bf st from superbaby (i think 2007 & 2008) : both times (2 different dancers) they would only do cbj & they were starfish. unfortunately when bf from superbaby / supergirl, you pay the full amount (bf+escort's fee) to the waitress / mamasan before you take her to a room (i don't know any other los gogos that have this policy) , so i couldn't exactly dock the escort's pay for lousy service. on the plus side they were stunners, among the top 3rd attractiveness (face a+body a but service d) los women i've hired, which is why i didn't interview / screen them properly to ensure we had good chemistry / meshed since mini-me was running the show. i still get the itch to hire an occasional gogo because they tend to be hotter & i can confirm prior to taking them home that they have a great body since they're nude in the gogo. one time i made the mistake of bf a tiger gogo tout (who was fully clothed as she beckoned passerbys to come in) : she was cute but turned out to have mosquito bites boobs, was a starfish, & i had paid the standard gogo bf+escort st fee.

about 8 pm – 3 am the easy way to find ws fls (mostly pros) wanting a john is in front of p. 72 hotel & restaurant, near the ws entrance, & at the soi 14 & ws junction. discos are also good for fls. candy shop is basically open air so it's great to have fun at a disco / do a hookah & hit on the disco fls or women walking by on ws. lucifer is cavernous (there's a smaller, outer area; keep walking towards the back) & packed around midnight. marine can be good around 1:30 am but nowadays i have better luck at insomnia. i'm too lazy to walk to mixx disco.

in the past a lt escort would sometimes wake up, go to the bathroom & before i know it she's dressed / has fresh make-up on & leaving before i can get in 1 more pop. so now if i'm horny but she's asleep i just do a hand-party & finish on her, or start fingering her, slip on a condom, insert mini-me & begin tapping her. oddly, i've had escorts get irritated when i want a morning bj / delight after i foolishly / politely waited for her to wake-up or outright refuse to do 1 more round when she's gotten dressed to leave (before i realize it). yet when i start tapping her when she's still asleep / half-asleep it hasn't bothered a single escort yet. usually they slowly wake up, realize i'm tapping her, & she starts putting some effort in to it (indicating me to switch to different positions or just to make sure i have a condom on).

i stay at jasmine because it's cheap & convenient but it lacks certain things i would like for better sex. lots of mirrors (walls, ceiling) , sofa & easy chair (certain positions require armrests for support which the bed / headboard can't compensate for). at soi 6 some businesses also have a porno playing on the dvd / tv, which is a nice touch when tapping a chick.

guesstimates based on the small sample size of patt escorts (gogos, bargirls, fls) i've been with:

- 60+% of escorts are from the isan region.

- 5% have orgasms (probably much higher when they're with guys other than lazy old me)

- 5+% don't enjoy sex at all ie it's an unpleasant occupation (again it could just be because they're with me)

- 70% of escorts will do bjs; of those that will.

8% requires a cbj.

33% will do cim.

- 75% of cb / br ladies have had a kid.

- 25% of ws / club fls have had a kid.

- 3+% are teenies (if she looks **** & she has no i'd, i don't even risk it)

- 85% of them will lower their st / lt price if i negotiate enough.

- 90+% bends the truth eg saying they've only hooked for 4 weeks, which is true of the past month.

- 90+% claim to have no boyfriend (but they probably do have a thai &/or farang boyfriends)

- 10% that admits / claims to having a farang boyfriend / sponsor, of that group 100+% of them went with me for st / lt (i don't recall an escort ever admitting to me that she had a current thai boyfriend / husband).

3) ode to amateurs.

an amateur fl hooks occasionally but are normally in between jobs, hold a regular position (student, stylist, masseuse, cook, office worker, cashier.) or simply vacationing in patts / out partying. on very rare occasions i'll find a second-timer amateur fl in which i'm only their 2nd (or maybe even 1st) john. i love true amateur fls because compared to women who trick regularly they're: hornier since they don't have sex regularly, less likely to have an std since they've had fewer (or no) johns before, i might be the first 'farang' (foreigner) they've been with, they're not hardened / cut-throat professionals, they're more attractive than ws fls / cb fls & it's easier to get them for st b500 / lt b1, 000 even if it's before 12 am (since they're not accustomed to big paydays for sex). on ws true amateur fls (especially second-timers) are harder to find, may take lots of effort & patience but they're worth it to me.

in previous years i've had some luck at marine / insomnia discos around 2:30 am finding regular ladies (eg amateur fls) who happened to be just out clubbing not planning on getting hired (in oct 2011 i was lucky with college students & a florist on cb). before (?) 12 am while sitting at goldstar bar people watching or strolling ws i've been lucky occasionally, spotting then approaching groups of 2 – 5 women who were just walking, hitting on my target and with some persuasion scoring the target (on 2 different occasions even bringing the target+her entire group of 1 or 3 friends to my hotel room.

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, which i stayed at before finding jasmine, to prove i'm staying on ws, not a serial killer, & it's safe for the amateur to stay with me alone). see journal / photos below for more info.

to identify fls interested in me i make eye contact, smile at them & see if they respond positively. for amateur fls (particularly second-timers) on ws (as opposed to cb where they're borderline pro fls) i look for 2+ women headed somewhere (ie they're not just standing around) ie a night on the town. when i approach them they're usually cautious / suspicious about my intentions, which i soon make clear that i'm a farang looking for a st / lt with her. sometimes i get lucky & she's receptive & her friend (s) supportive.

section 3: minimize expenses / crime.

- avoid or be selective with bf gogos: baccara group (baccara, happy, peppermint, cavern & beach gogos at ws) has a standard bf b600 ($20) , also the case with superbaby / supergirl (at ws on soi diamond). some gogos (eg what's up, angelwitch both at ws on soi 15 and mash on soi lk metro) have varying bf prices of b600 ($20) – b1, 000 ($34) for dancer / showgirls / coyote dancers / hostess / waitresses, or may have one bf price before x am & a lower bf after x am (eg 1 am).

- same applies to beer bars: i've heard some charge bf b500 ($17) but typically it's bf b300 ($10).

- avoid lds, especially the premium / large lds: at baccara group gogos it's b115 ($3. 80) but oddly at vertigo beer bar on soi happy (which leads in to happy agogo) it's b150 ($5) per ld.

- don't ring the bell (= you're buying all the employees / dancers a round of lds). if you must, do it at windmill gogo (or place with a similar policy) where it's a flat b1, 000 ($34) to pay for the round of lds even if there's 15+ of them.

- don't throw a bucket of ping pong balls (which are b20 ($.70) per ball).

- discretely negotiate with the escort for a lower st / lt escort fee, especially if you're off-ws. if she's giving you attitude, she's probably high maintenance / a terrible lay.

- to get a repeat (escort) cheaper: discretely get her phone number (when you see her before or after work, when you're with her for the first st / lt) & sms / text her to coordinate a future st / lt minus the bf & possibly at a reduced st / lt escort fee. i rarely give my phone number out since i don't want to be bugged by ex-hires who i have no interest in repeating with.

- stick with happy hours: usually entrance signs or touts holding placards advertise their happy hours / times eg b59 ($2) draft beers all night at baccara group gogos.

- avoid the gogos with european women: b300 ($10) for your drink, even more for a ld.

- do not go in to any gogo / business that charges an entrance fee. on ws i know of 2 gogos with regular choreographed sex shows (bananas, ping pongs, darts, bottle-opening, razors from the vagina, etc) : hot girls (on the 2nd floor above an italian restaurant) & playgirl (above airport agogo). hot girls tried to charge a b500 / person entrance fee which includes 1 drink, so we went to playgirl (no entrance fee, just pay for your drinks). the sex shows take about 30 min with 20 min or so intermissions so if nothing's going on you can always come back.

- since gogos entrance are free: walk inside, take a look. don't see anything worth staying for, just leave.

- st rooms: approx b300 ($10) per usage (your escort knows st motels nearby). soi 6 establishments include complimentary use of their st room with your bf b300. some gogos (i think worldwide & playgirl (or was it hot girls?) have a st deal total b1, 600 ($74) = bf b600 ($20) includes use of their st room + escort b1, 000 ($34) , which is a bargain for a hot gogo+private room. devil's den includes a private room but their specialty is a threesome so you have to hire 2 escorts. [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900).

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st b700 ($23) includes the bj+private room. dream teen massage.

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massage fee includes use of a private room, and you pay the masseuse for extra services, retail price: hj b500 ($17) , bj b1, 000 ($34) , fs b1, 500 ($51).

- eat from food carts / sidewalk vendors / hole in the wall eateries. in a nice restaurant pad thai is b120+ ($4+) but from a mom & pop operation it's b40. for consistent food availability at ws (& to meet working girls getting a bite to eat) : on soi 15 especially 6 pm – 3 am has a high concentration of food carts / eateries, on soi bj (diagonally across from marine disco) places to eat 24/7 & on soi diamond about 6 pm – 3 am. on ws food carts are prevalent mostly starting around 5 pm, and lots of them come out around 3 am (when ws is open to vehicle traffic again).

- generally ws is the most expensive (bf ladies, eating out, massages) , br is next & it gets cheaper further east past 2nd road. soi buakhao is really cheap & sukhumvit's road should be even cheaper.

- sometimes i avoid buying a ld before a bf by going up to the lady (when she's beckoning me on soi 6, she's standing in front of a gogo, or i somehow happen to start talking to her without a prerequisite ld) , interviewing her to check for adequate chemistry between us & offering to just bf.

1) hiring an escort is a business transaction with the lady being my employee and there's no good reason for the escort to be high maintenance. only twice in patts (and once in ac) have i demanded (& got) the beer bar bf refunded because the bargirl turned out to be whack. i don't like resorting to that, i prefer a gfe & i generally give a bfe (boyfriend experience) asking her if she needs anything (eg toothbrush for lt) from 7-11, wants a snack / drink from my hotel stash, take her out to eat, and so on. nowadays i dock the escort's pay for atrocious service. i would prefer to avoid that & just be a nice john 24/7.

2) conversely, i try to give good tips to escorts (and thais in general). my policy now is: to a satisfactory escort at least b20 ($.70) for taxi, tip b100 ($3. 40) – b300 ($10) &/or maybe a ld or two on following nights for excellent service. some folks think buying lds / paying bfs are for schmucks but i'm of the camp that has no issues with buying an occasional ld / bf if she seems worth it & i can afford it. to a gogo / beer bar server i usually tip b20 ($.70) & typically before i leave a gogo (or maybe even a beer bar) give a b20 (folded twice in ½ lengthwise, much cheaper than a ld) directly to a dancer / bather (ie shower showgirl) /bargirl, who is usually grateful for my gesture even if there was a guy earlier throwing a bucket of 25 (b500) ping pong balls on to the gogo stage. it's due to my tipping habits (or my sunny demeanor) that employees are pleased to see / serve me again even though i don't bf & i rarely buy a ld. i think tipping well gets me, if not that particular escort, good karma for mongering.

crime.

- at jasmine there's cctv so everyone entering the hotel is filmed, a room safe &/or lobby safe is available for valuables, at night there's a security guard, the reception desk is manned 24/7 & anytime i bring in an escort her i'd card is photocopied by the receptionist (i sign a liability waiver if i want to bring in an escort with no i'd). to be extra safe i could tell the receptionist to hold the escort's i'd card & the receptionist confirms with me via phone call / knock on my door that i'm ok with the escort getting her i'd / leaving (to make sure i haven't been drugged / robbed). to my knowledge no escort (bf or fled) has ever stolen from my room (just maybe stolen my heart, j / k). jasmine has no room phones but i could use my cellphone to call hotel reception / security.

- stay sober enough to be aware of what's going on. one time a 30-something lady tried to pick-pocket my front pocket while i was sitting on a baht bus with my girl. also one time a ladyboy tried to steal my friend's necklace & on a different occasion a cb ladyboy tried to unzip my back pocket to steal my wallet.

- don't fight a local because his buddies will gang up on you. either walk fast / run away or stick with fighting a fellow farang.

- avoid scams by knowing the exact price / terms before proceeding. i know i've been scammed 3 times in patts: 1) kid cleaned my shoes & when finished he pointed to the overpriced 'b200' ($7) price clearly written on the side of his toolbox (which i hadn't noticed until it was too late).2) guy wants to clean my shoes, i say ok to b40, but all he does is brush the dirt off (no soap cleaner applied) , so i only gave him b20 (probably b10 too much) & waived the lazy shoe shiner off though he still pretended he deserved b40, 3) without first asking the price i tell the insect vendor i want a little of everything (small frogs, scorpions, other bugs) from his cart & after he fries everything he indicates that it'll cost me b500 ($17) , i said b100 ($3. 40) & after some back & forth we agree upon b160 ($5. 40).

- do not trust touts, & if the pricing is the same might as well book thru a travel agency or a business with a fixed location (stand / kiosk, window / store). bangkok touts are much worse but be skeptical of patts touts.

section 4:2008 & 2010 sexcapades / journal.

in the past i sporadically took photos & didn't keep notes on any women. as best as i can remember:

1) from apr 2008 (these women aren't in chronological order & i think i did more than 7 women but didn't take photos of the other ones) :

fl in front of p. 72, friend 1.

friend 1 (see photo) , age 24 (?).5' 4".105 lbs. st paid. overall b = service b + face b + body c. she had said she was 20 (?) but after sex admitted she lied about her age because she thought i prefer younger women.

bf from a beer bar in the simon (left) beer bar complex, friend 2.

friend 2 (see photo) , age 19 (?).5'3'.100 lbs. lt paid? = bf? + escort. overall b = service a + face b + body b. barely spoke english, didn't have a kid, had a high sex drive, and we did 3 rounds.

bf from worldwide agogo, friend 3.

friend 3 (see photo) , age 19, 5'4'.90 lbs. lt paid? = bf? + escort. overall b = service a + face b + body a. has a kid. i bf her from worldwide gogo. during sex she was on top grinding hard, it was painful to me (bad fit / angle) so i told her 'get off' because i couldn't take any more of that painful position. she said 'i almost finish, ' too bad but her vagina was rough on me. she was a great gfe, next morning she went out to buy some cold meds for herself & brought me back a drink / snacks.

epilogue: in 2010 & in oct 2011 i see her at her current dancer job, airport gogo, & bought her lds. she's now about age 22.

bf from a beer bar on ws, friend 4.

friend 4 (see photo) , age 21 (?).5'3'.90 lbs. lt paid 1st time total b2, 300 (b78) = bf b300 ($10) + escort b2, 000 ($68). overall b = service b + face c + body a. i bf her from a beer bar on ws. terrible whitening make-up, but turns out to have an awesome spinner body with b-cups. i decided to bf her the next night for total b1, 800 ($60) = bf b300 ($10) + escort 1, 500 ($50) ; i had asked for lt b1, 000 but she said how about b1, 500 & i agreed to it. it was a mistake to bf her again since that 2nd lt she was moody / kind of a pain to deal with.

bf from a beer bar on ws, friend 5.

friend 5 (see photo) , jane, age 21 (?).5'2'.90 lbs. st paid. overall a = service a + face b + body a. had a great spinner, hour-glass figure (b-cups). gave great head & first girl to ever teabag me.

epilogue: now when i tell / indicate to an los escort to teabag me. 80% will do it & 20% won't.

fl from marine disco, friend 6.

friend 6 (see photo) , age 21 (?).5'2'.90 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34). overall? = service? + face b + body b. was really petite but she had pregnancy stretch marks from when she had a kid.

fl from marine disco, friend 7.

friend 7 (see photo) , jane, age 22 (?).5'4'.100 lbs. lt b2, 000 ($68). overall a = service a + face a + body b. around 3 am i meet another jane & her cousin at marine disco. i asked for lt & we agreed upon b2, 000. she took me to insomnia (in oct 2008 it was at its old site near marine disco 2 / marine seafood complex) & around 5 am we went to my hotel for round 1 & sleep. around 10 am had round 2, slept more than 12 pm round 3, slept some more. at 2 pm we wake up for a quick round 4, go to lunch at mbk restaurant (shabu-shabu) at the big c mall (her friend we were supposed to meet doesn't show up, which was good for me since that was one less mouth to feed). after helping me to pick out shirts, we're back in my hotel room about 5 pm for round 5. at 6 pm i'm considering getting her lt again, she said it would cost her standard lt b2, 000 & she has to work at the hair salon the next day at 9 am, i realize i want to bang different chicks so we part ways. she was really attractive / photogenic (hence the multiple photos) , great gfe, & had medium c-cups but they were sloppy. normally a hair stylist; she used to have a scandinavian butterfly boyfriend who took her on a 2-week european vacation.

2) from feb 2010 (only 3 escorts shown / described but i did more) :

soi 6 st, friend 1.

friend 1 (see photo) , bee, age 19 (?).5'3'.90 lbs. st total b1, 000 ($34) = bf b300 ($10) + b700 ($24). overall a = service a + face a + body a. turned out to have beautiful large b-cups. in 2010 & oct 2011 (now age 21?) i see her again at quickie bar on soi 6. still nice figure but needs to cut back on the smoking / take better care of her face.

fl from ws, friend 2.

friend 2 (see photo) , age 19 (?).5'2'.85 lbs. st paid. overall a = service a + face b + body a. turned out to have well-proportioned breasts for such a petite figure. great in bed but reneged on the cim (she had agreed to it during negotiations but when it was show time she said her tongue piercing was new & couldn't take cim now).

second-timer amateur fl from ws, friend 3.

friend 3 (see photo, left) , natalie, age 20 (?).5'4'.90 lbs. lt b1, 000. overall a = service a + face a + body a. on my 2nd to last night in patts about midnight i spot natalie & her friend walking past goldstar bar, so i hop out of my chair to go talk to my target (i usually pay my bar tab as soon as i get the drink since i rarely stay for more than 1 drink). since she doesn't speak english, her friend translates. i go thru my 3-line script and then say 'st b500, lt b1, 000, up to you', the 2 friends discuss it then natalie basically says hell, yeah, she'll take the lt b1, 000. her friend departs, natalie & i go to my hotel for round 1 & she's really horny & wants to fornicate for way too long.

next morning i tell natalie i want her for that night (a solid gfe repeat for my last night) , it'll be another b1, 000, we agree on meeting at 9 pm. her & her friend shows up at 7 pm to drop natalie off with me, i tell them it's way too early (i wanted to hit the gogos one last time) , hand them b200 ($7) to go hang out somewhere & tell her to be back at 9 pm. at 9 pm we do round 1, she sleeps while i pack & do some internet / skype stuff, at 4 am i get a round 2 bj. at 5:30 (?) am my taxi to the airport arrives. me sitting in the backseat with sleeping natalie lying across, laying her head in my lap during the 1 ½ drive (i could have asked for a quick bj but as a second-timer i doubt she'the do it with the cab driver in the front seat). i paid the cab-driver & natalie continued on to bangkok city. she was a bangkok university student & she was returning to the city / school from her patts vacation. it seemed i was 1 of her very 1st, or the 1st, john.

in april 2010 during songkran (see photos, right 2) i hired her for lt b1, 000 per day / night again. she took a bus from bangkok to patts and originally i was planning 5+ days with her (the most i've ever spent with 1 escort). the language barrier didn't bother me but she had lost most of her sex drive, she got jealous when i wanted to go to the gogos, so after the 2nd or 3rd night i paid her the lt fee + b2, 000 or b3, 000 severance (i can't remember which but either was possibly too generous) & told her she should leave (ie go back to bangkok). she cried (presumably because her sugardaddy's gone, not because she was emotionally attached to me) & left.

3) from apr 2010 (only 7 escorts shown / described but i did 19) :

fl from ws, friend 1.

friend 1 (see photo) , age 22 (?).5'4'.95 lbs. i think i had her for st. overall? = service? + face a + body c. i just remember terrible boobs.

amateur fl from ws area, friend 2.

friend 2 (see photo) , age 19 (?).5'3'.90 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34). overall a = service a + face a + body a. overlooking the fact she had small a-cups, she had a really sexy body. during sex she kept saying 'fuck me' & she was really in to it. i think she was in-between regular jobs.

fl from ws, friend 8 (i don't have photos of friends 3 – 7)

friend 8 (see photo) , age 19 (?).5'3'.90 lbs. st b500 ($17) and lt b1, 000 ($34). overall b = service b + face b + body a. i met her on ws & on 1 night we did st b500 (negotiated down from b1, 000) & it went well. she has a great body. on another night we agreed upon lt, did round 1, and after we had a few drinks at a beer bar then food around 3 am. about 3:45 am we slept but she woke up about 7 am, gave some bs reason to leave and left without me getting round 2. i should have docked her pay instead of paying her runner (very nice) ass the lt b1, 000. oh well, she was a cutie w / a hot body.

fl from ws, friend 12 (i don't have photos of friends 9 – 11)

friend 8 (see photo) , age 20 (?).5'4'.95 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34). around midnight i see her approaching a motortaxi on soi 16 & give her my 3-line script+offer lt b1, 000 which she accepts. i give the taxi driver b20 ($.70) because i just stole his fair. as we're walking to my hotel her shoe heel breaks, so i give her piggy-back ride the rest of the way (her c-cups physique was heavy) to my hotel room. she worked in bangkok p4p place (beer bar?) & was in patts on vacation.

amateur fl from ws, friend 13

friend 13 (see photo) , age 20 (?).5'4'.95 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34). overall? = service? + face b + body c. one night we met but she couldn't do st / lt for some reason so we exchanged phone numbers. the following (?) night she called me wanting to meet up but i had hired someone already so i tell her the next night at midnight to meet me in front of lucifer disco. she's there, we head to my place for lt, she's a cook in some restaurant & that's about all i remember.

fl from ws area, friend 16 (no photos of 14 – 15)

friend 16 (see photo) , age 21 (?).5'4'.95 lbs. lt b1, 000 ($34). overall a = service a + face b + body a. really nice breasts. since she was a good gfe the next day i took her to koh larn island with me & when we got back to patts / my hotel room had a round. for going with me to koh larn + the shag i think i gave her b500 ($17). i forgot what her regular job was.

fl from cb, friend 19 (no photos of 17 – 18 or any women after friend 19)

friend 19 (see photo) , age 23 (?).5'3'.90 lbs. st b500 ($17). overall? = service? + face b + body b. has a kid. i hired her off cb i think for a bj. i just remember pregnancy wrinkles being a turn-off.

fl from ws + bf from a beer bar on soi happy, friend partially blind

friend partially blind, age 23 (?).5'3'.90 lbs. fl lt b1, 000 ($34). overall a = service a + face a + body a. cim. my 2nd to last night in patts i'm walking ws about 3:30 am when i come across her & we agree upon lt b1, 000. she has a great body but, due to a childhood accident blinding / damaging one eye, she has one glass eye (originally i thought she was cross-eyed) and one good eye. she tells me she works at [? ] beer bar on soi happy & she's tried to get my attention when i walk to happy gogo but i ignored her (i also ignore all the other bargirls since my focus was happy). i realize i should pay more attention when walking past beer bargirls. she's hot, gfe, & cool to talk to. i tell her that night (my last night in patts) i'll bf her at x pm when she gets to work & pay her lt b1, 500 ($50). so at 8 (?) pm i'm at her beer bar, buy her a ld, pay the b300 ($10) bf & we head to my hotel. after 2+ rounds and some sleep, i pay her b1, 500 & catch my taxi to the airport (picked me up at 7 am?).

4) from oct 2011, bonus trip report material.

soi 6, friend ex

while walking on soi 6 i vaguely recognize her (see photo). she tells me that we had a st before (a previous year) & she looks the type i would hire. she works at quickie bar (same as another ex-friend of mine: bee). i buy her a ld, she wants a st hire but i decline since i prefer new chicks.

refunded bf from dream bar beer at simon (right) on ws, friend not.

she had a kid & was age 22 (?) but i liked her face & we agreed to lt escort b1, 500 ($50) , negotiated down from retail b2, 000 (or was it more?). i pay the bf b300 ($10) & we head to my hotel room. i remember to ask the hotel lobby receptionist to photograph us prior to us going my hotel room (see photo). in my room she starts trying to re-negotiate a higher price, saying b1, 500 should only be a st. i tell her 'no. leave' since we've been thru negotiations, if she's a high-maintenance mom she's not worth any more trouble & money, & i offer her b100 for her troubles, she says for severance she deserves at least b500. i grab her purse & shoes & exit my room, surprisingly she follows me in to the hallway so i lock / close the door behind us. i walk towards the lobby as she yells 'we talk, come here! ' while standing at my room door. i set her purse, shoes & the b100 severance on the lobby chair for her to fetch, i hand a tip b20 ($.70) to the security guard & tell him & the receptionist that i kicked this chick out of my room.

i go back to dream bar beer (the one on the left side) , tell them i want a bf refund. i think about it, tell them to just give me 3 x san mig light beers which is total b285 & the b15 change is a tip. i chug all 3 as friend not arrives back telling her co-workers what happened. i leave the bartenders an additional tip b100 & leave. on a couple of occasions when i inevitably walked past her beer bar in simon (right) complex she gave me the middle finger & said 'fuck you. ' sometimes love just ain't enough.

kiss agogo, friend deaf

friend deaf, age 21 (?).5'3'.90 lbs. fl lt b1, 000 ($34) in apr 2010. overall a = service a + face b + body a. cim. in apr 2010 about 3:30 am at marine i approach friend deaf (of course i don't remember her name) who's sitting by herself. turns out she's deaf and willing to go with me for fl lt b1, 000. she stays with me until 6 pm the next day & left only because i softly kicked her out by indicating i was going out to eat & to the gogos, it was nice meeting her & giving her the lt b1, 000 (+tips?). during her time at my hotel room she was entirely in the nude (she didn't bother putting any clothes on in between rounds) , we had 3+ rounds (i think once fs & 2+ only bjs) , great gfe, & i learn (via body language, text on our phones & her actions) that she loves boom-boom, big cocks, giving bjs & teabagging. few nights later i buy her a beer at candyshop disco, meet her friend who's also deaf, and fled her deaf friend for lt b1, 000 (cute face but terrible boobs).

in oct 2011 i see friend deaf again & buy her a ld since she's now working at kiss agogo (on soi lk metro, to the right of devil's den & submarine agogo). via text on her phone she indicates her other deaf friend is now married to a farang & left thailand. friend deaf still has a great spinner body but now goes for gogo bf+escort pricing, unless you can get her off-duty.

section 5: bangkok tips.

1) maps.

- bts sky-train & suvarnabhumi airport rail link:

http://bit.ly/vvaolg

or.

http://bit.ly/utplgz

- red-light areas: 1. nana plaza@e3 nana bts. 2. soi cowboy@e4 asoke bts.

http://bangkoktonite.com/maps/sukhumvit.shtml

it's easier to walk between the 2 areas than take a taxi.

3. patpong (red-light & night market) @s2 sala daeng.

http://bit.ly/t7pryt

2) soapy massage parlors.

http://bit.ly/tzrw79

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cheers: that's all i can think of to put in this los guide for now. good luck out there.

Catch77

12-07-11, 03:56

I wrote this guide (an annex to my 'LOS Oct 2011 Trip Report') to help newbies or those wanting advice. YMMV, all of this is IMHO, costs / times / figures are approx, hopefully I'm not talking out of my ass too much & everything's subject to change. This guide is based on my experiences and what I would / will do with a focus on saving money. I'm in my 30s, Asian-American, average looking / personality, cheap.Thanks so much for this information. Making my first visit to Thailand on Dec 16-26. This is exactly what I was looking for. Question do you think its best to use the ATM everyday or come into the country with all the cash I expect to need ( 2000 USD) and do a one time exchange? I know my bank charges for other ATM usage, just don't want to get into the habit of withdrawing money several times a day like I tend to do in Vegas.

Wolvenvacht

12-07-11, 08:43

Thanks so much for this information. Making my first visit to Thailand on Dec 16-26. This is exactly what I was looking for. Question do you think its best to use the ATM everyday or come into the country with all the cash I expect to need ( 2000 USD) and do a one time exchange? I know my bank charges for other ATM usage, just don't want to get into the habit of withdrawing money several times a day like I tend to do in Vegas.And the Thai bank who owns the ATM also charges you for each withdrawal (150 Baht, if I remember well). So I arrive "in country" with some cash that I change at the airport. Not the best rates, but I exchange only enough to tide me over the time until I find a better rate or can withdraw some larger amounts. Hotels and fancy restaurants are settled with a credit-card, so the cash money of for small things and P4P and hence I usually withdraw cash money once a week only.

Stakeout

12-07-11, 18:00

Question do you think its best to use the ATM everyday or come into the country with all the cash I expect to need ( 2000 USD) and do a one time exchange?Go to the ATM once every week or ten days and withdraw 20 000 baht (650 USD). Keep these in the safe in your hotel room (make sure your hotel offers this service). Some ATMs have a maximum amount of 10 000 baht. So avoid these brands.

BKK Dreaming

12-07-11, 20:43

It has been 150 baht for each ATM transaction so I would take out enough for a few days at least,

Also check what exchange rate you are getting, some places are better than others,

BK

LittleBigMan

12-08-11, 01:57

Thanks so much for this information. Making my first visit to Thailand on Dec 16-26. This is exactly what I was looking for. Question do you think its best to use the ATM everyday or come into the country with all the cash I expect to need ( 2000 USD) and do a one time exchange? I know my bank charges for other ATM usage, just don't want to get into the habit of withdrawing money several times a day like I tend to do in Vegas.For that short period I would bring the cash (2, 000) all in nice Hundreds. You should be able to get a pretty good rate even at the airport. Right now the rates is around 30. 79, at the ATM you might get 30. 63 with a ATM charge of 150 baht for each transaction and most likely in general you will be charged 1% at home? It should also be noted that most USA bank will only distribute $500. 00 maximum a day (24hour period). Right now based on the rate I could get 16, 000 baht. As noted some ATM here in Thailand will only give you 10, 000 baht and if you are asking for more the machine doesn't give you much of a explanation which can be disturbing if you ever got ripped off by a ATM here?

Bring the cash and have extra in your ATM account in case there is a emergency?

LBM

Sunlover2

12-08-11, 04:42

For that short period I would bring the cash (2, 000) all in nice Hundreds. You should be able to get a pretty good rate even at the airport.Bring brand new and pristine $100 bills. The newest you can find. And a couple of $50's would not hurt.

Do not change significant money at the airport, only enough to get to where you are going. Bring some $20's for that. The exchange rates will be better at the money changers at your destination.

SunLover

LittleBigMan

12-08-11, 08:02

Bring brand new and pristine $100 bills. The newest you can find. And a couple of $50's would not hurt.

Do not change significant money at the airport, only enough to get to where you are going. Bring some $20's for that. The exchange rates will be better at the money changers at your destination.

SunLoverI believe that you get a better rate for the 100 bills? Do whatever you need to get a better rate but don't be obessed about it. I still remember a guy walking in the hot sun in Bangkok because he thought he could get a better rate on a Thai broom. He walked his ass off and his shirt was nearly soak in the back and he felt he beat the guy because he got the broom for 35 baht instead of 40 baht. While he was walking away from me I was thinking how can I know such a stupid F-ker? And today he still does the same thing and over pays for pussy?

LBM

Bender69

12-08-11, 12:35

Pulled a cute young thing from the line-up dancing on stage in between the shows. #29 her name was Tam. Bought her a drink and started chatting. One mama-san warned me that Tam's English was not very good. I didn't care I wasn't looking for a conversation partner. She had a nice body with soft skin. I asked her how old she was and she said 18. Wow, I thought. Less than half my age. I was started to get very excited. Asked her for long time and she agreed. She called a different mama-san over who said barfine was 600 baht and long time was 3000 baht. After a week in Patong Beach where I was getting long time for 2000 baht or less I was a little reluctant but when I looked at that body again the wrong head made the decision and I agreed. Walked with her along beach road back to my hotel. About a 10 minute walk but just spent the time looking at her long legs and talking a little. Made it to the hotel and the front desk staff seemed like they were waiting for me. So I walked up with her and they asked for her I'd. Now, before I paid the barfine I double checked with the mama-san that 1) she was 18 and 2) she had I'd. The mama-san said "Yes, yes, everything fine. She have I'd." I said,"I don't want any problems with my hotel she has to have I'd." "No problem", she said,"she has I'd." So get to the front desk and no I'd is forth coming. An exchange in Thai back and forth between Tam and the desk staff and one of the clerks turns to me and says "She has no I'd. She can't go up to your room."

I looked at Tam and asked,"What happened?" She just looked down at the floor and said "Sorry." So we headed back out to beach road and grabbed a baht bus back to Walking Street. I already had a suite with a bath tub on the balcony. I wasn't going to go pay for some dirty short time room somewhere. I wanted to return her to the club and get my money back. We get back to the club and I tell one of the waitresses that I want to see a mama-san. They find the same one that I paid the barfine to. The same one that assured me Tam had I'd and everything was fine. I said,"She doesn't have I'd." They talked in Thai. Tam looked like she was about to die. I guess I was causing her to lose face, but I just wanted to know what the hell was going on. Mama-san looked straight at me and said "She have I'd but she can't show it to your hotel because she is 16 and they won't let her in." "She's 16?" I looked at Tam,"You're 16?" No response from her. I told the mama-san I wanted my money back. She ran over to the bar and returned with my 600 baht and said something in Thai to Tam while gesturing at the stage. I guess she was probably telling her to go change and get back to work. I looked right at the mama-san after Tam walked away and said "If she had told me she was 16 I wouldn't have bar fined her." The mama-san just turned her head and looked away without saying anything.

They know she's 16. They don't care. They're pushing child prostitution.

I went back to my hotel and thanked the front desk staff for saving my ass.

PS Why does this editor change the short from for identification from two letters I and D to I'd? What is the point of that?

Bigcebu

12-08-11, 20:38

Bumholes1

12-09-11, 10:44

Spanish Main

12-09-11, 21:19

Fantastic report. Well done

Mr Enternational

12-10-11, 01:59

Fun And Sun

12-10-11, 02:03

the mama-san just turned her head and looked away without saying anything.

they know she's 16. they don't care. they're pushing child prostitution.

i went back to my hotel and thanked the front desk staff for saving my ass.

ps why does this editor change the short from for identification from two letters i and d to i'd? what is the point of that?

similar thing happened to me once in bangkok. had pulled this cutie from one of the go-gos at nana plaza, we had gone for a few drinks and it had gotten quite late and we went back to my hotel. when she is signing into the hotel the reception tells me that she can't come in. i ask "why, she has shown you her id?" and then they say "sir, she can't come in because she is 16". was to late to march back to the go-go since it was after closing time, so waved my finger in front of her face and told her "no good, bad, bad, bad. you understand how much trouble i could be in?" she started crying and ran out of the hotel. made a point of thanking the receptionist for keeping me out of what could potentially have been a lot of trouble for me. was really irritated actually since i avoid girls that say they are exactly 18, since that is often a sign of them being ****, but this one had said she was 21.

managed to find an open beer bar where i pulled a girl from that was far from my first choice of bed companion, but only had two weeks in thailand on that trip and was not planning on going to bed alone any night.

was determined to go back the next day and recover my bar fine, but the next night i realised i had no recollection whatsoever of which go-go she worked in, and wasn't going to waste a whole night looking for her, so wrote it of to experience.

ps to work around the editor, write your report, and copy it. then post it. then click edit post, and paste your report into the form. the automatic editor doesn't edit edited posts.

Horatio

12-10-11, 02:52

Sxxxx

12-10-11, 03:51

I was last in Thailand about 6 years ago. Are costs roughly the same? 500 bht short term. 1000 overnight? Can I get a cheap, but clean, motel for under $10 a night? I am planning on a trip in feburary.

ThanksWhy don't you read the forum and find out? You have had 6 years to read the posts on this Forum. I see 80-90% of your previous posts are questions only.

Wolvenvacht

12-10-11, 08:21

I was last in Thailand about 6 years ago. Are costs roughly the same? 500 bht short term. 1000 overnight? Can I get a cheap, but clean, motel for under $10 a night? I am planning on a trip in feburary.

ThanksIf you don't mind a bit of negotiating with the girls and do not go for the high end of the market (a gogo girls and such) it should still be possible, but you will really have to search for it. Beach road freelancers and beergarden girls are your best bet then. A more realistic price would be 750 baht ST and 1500 baht LT.

A hotel for under $10 a night might actually be more difficult to find, unless you go in the low season.

BionicMan

12-10-11, 10:52

Why don't you read the forum and find out? You have had 6 years to read the posts on this Forum.. Hilarious. But very right!

Bender69

12-10-11, 11:37

Bwwaaahhh haaaa haaaa. You guys are going to go to jail chasing those barely legal women. Searching out 18 year-olds is saying,"If they would allow me to go younger, I would!"I wasn't searching out an 18 year old. I pulled what I found to be the best looking girl that was dancing on stage at the time. If she had told the truth when I asked her age it would have ended right there. As I wrote earlier, I thanked the hotel staff for saving my ass.

Run Mann

12-10-11, 12:36

A hotel for under $10 a night might actually be more difficult to find, unless you go in the low season.More like impossible in any season but if someone finds one post it for the budget travelers.

Wenzman

12-10-11, 14:38

If you don't mind a bit of negotiating with the girls and do not go for the high end of the market (a gogo girls and such) it should still be possible, but you will really have to search for it. Beach road freelancers and beergarden girls are your best bet then. A more realistic price would be 750 baht ST and 1500 baht LT.

A hotel for under $10 a night might actually be more difficult to find, unless you go in the low season.We are talking about Pattaya not Bangkok. No Problem to get a Beer-Bar-Girl or Freelancer for 500 Bath shorttime or 1. 000 Bath longtime. Also a Guesthouse in High-Season for 500 Bath is possible (try Soi Bukhao Area). Hotels for this price no way.

Wenzman

Fon Tok

12-10-11, 16:54

More like impossible in any season but if someone finds one post it for the budget travelers.There's a cheap guesthouse on Soi Chaiyapoom, aross from the Le Cap Breton restaurant.

Horatio

12-10-11, 17:05

You went back and read all my old posts? Wow! You will note that I gave an account of my visit to Thailand, and gave a review of both hotels I stayed in. I am not sure what more I could have said. I asked more questions then gave facts because I had more questions then facts. Like I said though, I gave what facts I had.

I didn't go back and read pages of this forum for my answers because it is so much quicker to just ask. Please excuse the laziness.

Thanks for the help.

Why don't you read the forum and find out? You have had 6 years to read the posts on this Forum. I see 80-90% of your previous posts are questions only.

BionicMan

12-10-11, 22:33

I asked more questions then gave facts because I had more questions then facts. Like I said though, I gave what facts I had.

I didn't go back and read pages of this forum for my answers because it is so much quicker to just ask.Not a bad strategy, why bother reading the content of pages, just ask. Seems a great selfish approach.

With compliments from the idiots posting reports, information, feedbacks

Member #4698

12-10-11, 22:54

Not a bad strategy, why bother reading the content of pages, just ask. Seems a great selfish approach.A perfect example of the entitlement pov. It is funny when it gets down to this level, not so funny when some idiots think they are entitled to a piece of my earned income just because I have it and they don't. Forget the fact that I worked and saved damn hard to get where I am and they didn't.

Fast Eddie 48

12-10-11, 23:17

I was last in Thailand about 6 years ago. Are costs roughly the same? 500 bht short term. 1000 overnight? Can I get a cheap, but clean, motel for under $10 a night? I am planning on a trip in feburary.

ThanksTo Horatio.

The overall cost is higher now than 6 year ago everything is up and the Baht is stronger now compare to the USD, I don't go for the bottom of the barrel but my last trip 3 month ago cost about 130 USD a day for everything 6 year ago is about 100 USD a day easy.

Fast Eddie 48

Horatio

12-11-11, 00:06

WTF? I have given answers here. Anyone who doesn't want to answer me, doesn't have too. Notice that there were two contradictory answers to the question I asked about prices over the six years. It takes hours upon hours to decipher pages of posts compared to what is said in response to a specific question. And whoever said I was 80 to 90 percent questions was wrong. About 20 percent of my posts are saying I enjoyed someone elses post. Another whatever percent was banter, some percentage was me giving facts I learned while in Pattaya, maybe half my posts were questions.

I spent two months in Thailand. Whatever information I can give, I gladly will, but it can be and has been covered by much more experienced mongers then me. I could do mindless banter, but who really wants that? I read about 5 pages of Pattaya posts, and none of them covered what I was wanting to know.

The best way (imo) to respond to people who continuously spam with questions is to ignore the questions.

Thanks again for the answers.

Not a bad strategy, why bother reading the content of pages, just ask. Seems a great selfish approach.

With compliments from the idiots posting reports, information, feedbacks

Luvpuss

12-11-11, 00:29

I was last in Thailand about 6 years ago. Are costs roughly the same? 500 bht short term. 1000 overnight? Can I get a cheap, but clean, motel for under $10 a night? I am planning on a trip in feburary.

ThanksI just left Pats. If you are talking Beach Road girls, most are going for 500ST and 1k LT. There are many girls out there. More girls than customers it seems.

You can get $10 hotels in Jomtien. This is the cheapest I know of in Pattaya that is decent:

http://sawasdee-hotels.com/pattaya/sawasdee_mansion/index.html

Trantinr

12-11-11, 00:55

I just left Pats. If you are talking Beach Road girls, most are going for 500ST and 1k LT. There are many girls out there. More girls than customers it seems. I am coming over in late Jan and appreciate the update. Last time I was there (Aug. 2010) there was a reluctance from Beach Road girls to do LT.

Catch77

12-11-11, 01:34

Thanks to all for the responses regarding the ATM exchanges. This is a great community of like minded individual. I will be submitting my first report soon after returning.

Super Cum 500

12-11-11, 05:29

I just left Pats. If you are talking Beach Road girls, most are going for 500ST and 1k LT. There are many girls out there. More girls than customers it seems.

You can get $10 hotels in Jomtien. This is the cheapest I know of in Pattaya that is decent:

http://sawasdee-hotels.com/pattaya/sawasdee_mansion/index.htmlProblem is not the costs have changed but the exchange rate. UK at least.

When I planned to go to Thailand long time ago now 70-75 baht for the pound.

When I made it to Thailand about 65 baht for the pound.

Now 45-50 baht for the pound.

WTF. So basically though ST may still be 500 and LT 1000 and cheap hotel 700. The conversion rate means prices are much much higher.

ANyone any idea on likelihood of exchange rate improving anytime soon?

Bunky

12-11-11, 06:29

WTF? There were two contradictory answers to the question I asked about prices over the six years. It takes hours upon hours to decipher pages of posts compared to what is said in response to a specific question.I think there is room for argument here.

Some questions can be answered quickly with a single data point that is not subject to debate. For example: Where is the Heaven Above Go Go? Are there baht buses on Soi Buakaow? There's probably no harm in asking that type of question here, although I've found that Google is usually faster.

Most questions, however, have no hard-and-fast answer. The classic example is any question having to do with pricing. There are thousands of girls in Pattaya, and it's simply impossible to generalize about pricing. Mr. Horatio originally asked "Are costs roughly the same? 500 bht short term. 1000 overnight?" The wise guy answer is yes. By which I mean that of the thousands of girls in town at least one will go for those prices. But that doesn't really tell him what he wants to know. The same can be said for his query: "Can I get a cheap, but clean, motel for under $10 a night?" In the first place, it's circular to ask about finding a "cheap" room for $10 per night. Of course a $10 room will be "cheap." In the second place, again the wise guy answer is yes. In a city with thousands upon thousands of hole-in-the-wall rooms I'm sure there are places to stay for 300 baht. But again, that's not what he wants to know.

What he REALLY wants to know is: "What kind of girls are willing to go for 500 short time and 1000 long time?" And: "If I'm only willing pay 300 baht per night, will I be forced to stay in a scarifying dive?" Well, those questions cannot easily be answered. Yes, girls and lodging are available at those price points. Whether they would be acceptable to Mr. Horatio is impossible to say. The only way he can decide if a Pattaya trip is realistic on his (VERY limited) budget is to put in the time to read the posts going back several months. Only in that way can he get a sense for the quality of the girls and the lodging available at that price level. Then he can take an informed decision about whether he'd have fun on such a small budget.

Relying on others to answer those questions puts him at their mercy. What if I answered his original queries by saying: "No problem! Lots of girls will go for that price and you'll be able to find a "motel" for $10 per night." Come February Mr. Horatio finds himself staying in a 100 square foot room east of Third Road with just a wheezing table fan for company and banging toothless grannies he finds in Dark Side bars. He makes his way to the nearest internet cafe and takes me to task. Quite rightly, I can say I was just answering his questions.

That's why, in almost all situations, there is simply no substitute for putting in the time to read the old posts. I realize that goes against today's point-and-click lifestyle, where it's been said people don't read so much as they graze. But sometimes you cannot escape the eternal verities.

Bunky

LittleBigMan

12-11-11, 13:44

Problem is not the costs have changed but the exchange rate. UK at least.

When I planned to go to Thailand long time ago now 70-75 baht for the pound.

When I made it to Thailand about 65 baht for the pound.

Now 45-50 baht for the pound.

WTF. So basically though ST may still be 500 and LT 1000 and cheap hotel 700. The conversion rate means prices are much much higher.

ANyone any idea on likelihood of exchange rate improving anytime soon?

You should be glad its not dollars? Consider yourself still lucky? But I know it's all relative?

LBM

Andy72

12-12-11, 08:59

Hi,

The Devils Den website seems to have been offline for a while. Do anyone know if they are still in operation?

Deejay3

12-12-11, 10:37

Hi.

This is Paresh and Reshma wants to visit phuket and Bangkok, early December, Can somebody help us to know the current situation?

Thanks,

PareshHi Reshma! When are you coming over to Thailand? I will be there from 13th to 29th. If you fancy meeting up can do. We can even explore together.

Hatguy

12-13-11, 04:37

Hi,

The Devils Den website seems to have been offline for a while. Do anyone know if they are still in operation?I just tried the site and it says CLOSED DOWN.

Junior

12-13-11, 05:51

Hi,

The Devils Den website seems to have been offline for a while. Do anyone know if they are still in operation?They are very much open, but have been having a disagreement with their webmaster. Hence the shutdown site.

You can reach them on: +66 (0) 87 1491996

Hatguy

12-13-11, 10:35

They are very much open, but have been having a disagreement with their webmaster. Hence the shutdown site.

You can reach them on: +66 (0) 87 1491996Ok great. Thanks for the update.

Carlos Primeros

12-13-11, 17:19

I was there last Sunday. They were closed. A gril sitting there gave me a voucher for 10 % discount if I session on Monday. I went back on Monday around 5 pm and had a look at the line-up. I was not really impressed and got me a SW from Beach-road together with her friend. I sessioned for 2 hours with both of them and paid them 2000 Bath in total. Both girls were 3-holers, ATM. Everything was possible.

Carlos Primeros

Luvpuss

12-14-11, 00:06

Mitian 1994

12-15-11, 12:25

Fantastic report and would be really useful for newcomers to Pattaya.

Mitian

Appreciation: Thank you, positive ISG posters. I've learned lots and was inspired to contribute myself.

I'll be in Patts 1 thru 29 May 2012. If any ISG member wants to meet up for a drink / beer, PM me.

Warning: Do not read this report if you're easily bored or really negative / critical.

I wrote this guide (an annex to my 'LOS Oct 2011 Trip Report') to help newbies or those wanting advice. YMMV, all of this is IMHO, costs / times / figures are approx, hopefully I'm not talking out of my ass too much & everything's subject to change. This guide is based on my experiences and what I would / will do with a focus on saving money...

Noggen

12-15-11, 16:30

I am planning a long trip to Thailand and asia and have been lurking on the forums. Finding out about Devils den I had decided that it was a must for me, but the last few days when I visited their site it did not load. Now when you try to go it you get:

"For those of you who care for the details, it is the usual Pattaya soap opera. The husband of the building leaseholder thought it was a sharp logo and a converted shop-house that made the brand successful- not fanatical customer service and sound management. Without his wife's knowledge he came to us with a rather. Unique staffing idea- we wanted no part of it.

Seeing how well the business was doing, he became greedy, and decided that all he had to do was drive out the people who actually built the Devil's Den and then make his own website (because he has a friend who's "good with computers" this would be easy). He would then be free to implement his staffing "solution" at the same location, using the Devil's Den good reputation, but without the Den's founders as an obstacle.

Not a very clever move, but a surprisingly regular occurrence in Pattaya and a risk for any successful business that makes a name for itself. Because of course, we all know that if you cut open the goose you can get all the golden eggs at one time. In the end, it was far better for us to walk away than to compromise the values that made the Devil's Den such a unique and progressive institution.

Hijacked.

Of course, the parties using the Den name and signage now at the old LK Metro location have simply hijacked the brand and whatever portions of the business model they could puzzle together. The managers you are accustomed to dealing with have left, and unfortunately can take no responsibility for what you may experience in any business that has chosen to co-opt the name.

Our Sincere Thanks.

Despite this unfortunate ending, we would like to thank all of our loyal customers. We were always amazed by the class of patrons we were able to attract, their loyalty, and most of all the genuine kindness with which they treated the staff. Providing service, and meeting even the most difficult challenges was a true pleasure and we sincerely regret that we will no longer be able to do so."

So as far as I see things, Devils Den should be considered to be a no-go for anyone looking for a great, nasty playdate.

Pro Boner

12-15-11, 17:51

They are very much open, but have been having a disagreement with their webmaster. Hence the shutdown site.

You can reach them on: +66 (0) 87 1491996The site is now updated with a very different story. If anyone has spoken with the DD management I'd like to hear which version is true. Vengeful webmaster or management change? I'm guessing the latter is more likely given the "Sunday shutdown" discussed below.

Hatguy

12-15-11, 20:39

Rip Devils den. Apparently a coup took place.

" The Usual Drama.

For those of you who care for the details, it is the usual Pattaya soap opera. The husband of the building leaseholder thought it was a sharp logo and a converted shop-house that made the brand successful- not fanatical customer service and sound management. Without his wife's knowledge he came to us with a rather. Unique staffing idea- we wanted no part of it.

Seeing how well the business was doing, he became greedy, and decided that all he had to do was drive out the people who actually built the Devil's Den and then make his own website (because he has a friend who's "good with computers" this would be easy). He would then be free to implement his staffing "solution" at the same location, using the Devil's Den good reputation, but without the Den's founders as an obstacle.

Not a very clever move, but a surprisingly regular occurrence in Pattaya and a risk for any successful business that makes a name for itself. Because of course, we all know that if you cut open the goose you can get all the golden eggs at one time. In the end, it was far better for us to walk away than to compromise the values that made the Devil's Den such a unique and progressive institution. Hijacked.

Of course, the parties using the Den name and signage now at the old LK Metro location have simply hijacked the brand and whatever portions of the business model they could puzzle together. The managers you are accustomed to dealing with have left, and unfortunately can take no responsibility for what you may experience in any business that has chosen to co-opt the name. Our Sincere Thanks.

Despite this unfortunate ending, we would like to thank all of our loyal customers. We were always amazed by the class of patrons we were able to attract, their loyalty, and most of all the genuine kindness with which they treated the staff. Providing service, and meeting even the most difficult challenges was a true pleasure and we sincerely regret that we will no longer be able to do so.

*

The Pattaya Devil's Den.

2009-2011.

It was loads of fun while it lasted."

My only regret is I didn't get to try it. Ah well. Beach road might have to do. Or soi 6. Or ffer other options pointed out by posters here.

Stakeout

12-15-11, 23:52

Member #4410

12-15-11, 23:54

I was there last Sunday. They were closed. A gril sitting there gave me a voucher for 10 % discount if I session on Monday. <SNIP

Carlos PrimerosReminds me of the oldie (but still Goldie) :

Message scrawled on public toilet wall: I love Grils!

2nd message scrawled under that: That's Girls, you idiot!

3rd message under that: And what about us Grils?

Sorry! <grin >

Regards,

Ko

Uncle Volodya

12-16-11, 06:12

Rip Devils den. Apparently a coup took place.Man, that sucks. I had a very memorable afternoon there a couple years ago and I feel lucky to have a chance to try it out.

The management there was top notch. I'm sure they'll have another place up and running soon. If I had any spare coin I'd invest in those guys.

Junior

12-16-11, 06:21

Man, that sucks. I had a very memorable afternoon there a couple years ago and I feel lucky to have a chance to try it out.

The management there was top notch. I'm sure they'll have another place up and running soon. If I had any spare coin I'd invest in those guys.The Den is open for business in the same location as always. They are open 1pm till midnight Monday to Saturday. Sunday they are closed.

There is a dispute between the owner and the webmaster hence the site being offline and saying the Den is closed.

I was in email contact with the new manager yesterday as I will be there tomorrow. He confirmed my booking with the lady I had requested.

Yesterday I learned that they now have 30 ladies working there including an old favorite returning.

I have been using the Dens services since 2008 when it was known as the Hell Club and the owner (Cerberus) has always been straight with me. He is still the owner and operator of the Den.

So I expect to find that it is business as usual at the Den when I get there tomorrow. Any issues with the website are entirely secondary. The most important is that they have plenty of serviceminded ladies to tend to my every perversion.

LittleBigMan

12-16-11, 11:09

After reading the two reports one from Hatguy and Junior I'm thinking maybe like many of you something doesn't add up and kind of smells?

First time reading I though Hatguy referrence " Husband of Building Leaseholder " was a Thai? Then after reading Junior report I went back and read it again!

From what I know of D. D. I thought that like most places it is finance by a Farang and they use a Thai friend or wife to run the business along with renting the building or leasing it? So now based on the wording I would assume that the Husband of the Leaseholder is actually the Farang that started or own the business? If I'm right I heard that he was sick and that had turn the operation over to the manager who I thought was John, who I thought did a great job of running the place and certainly knew a thing or two about customer service.

When I read Hatguy report, I wonder if he isn't John or someone that has a daily hand in running the place? Statement such as " We wanted no part of it, far better for us to walk away, our sincere thanks "

With Juniors report the owner is Cereberus, my assumption and history if correct is Hell club was open by the same guy that open Eden in Bangkok. When Hell club open the first week or so the owner or founder die of a heart attack and thereafter it was name D. D?

It seems like maybe the owner came back and decided to get back into action and had a few ideas that didn't seem to fit the current structure of D. D. That has become very successful while he was gone. After reading these reports I wonder one might conclude that maybe not enough credit was given to John and the owner felt he is the founder any success comes from the original concept and not the guy running it! Its a same I wonder sometimes how some people with money ever made so much?

One thing for sure the website is secondary it is just a excuse for something bigger behind the scene? What a shame?

LBM

Bunky

12-16-11, 13:40

Pro Boner

12-16-11, 14:07

After reading the two reports one from Hatguy and Junior I'm thinking maybe like many of you something doesn't add up and kind of smells?Agreed. I'd love for someone trusted and with a personal relationship with John to clarify his position and / or the facts.

To be clear, the Hatguy post was a cut and paste from the updated DD website which now tells the quoted story. There's also an email there which I contacted. The responder thanked me for my message but said there were no plans to reopen at another location since this would require a Thai investor and they were unhappy with how the whole experience worked out. Email was from admin@but was unsigned. No idea if it was John or someone else.

One key element I noticed in Junior's post is the term "new manager". I'll be curious to see how things go from now on but John sounds like a tough act to follow. One of the main reasons I was planning to rely so heavily on DD during my upcoming trip was the trust built up by John over the years on boards like this one. Mongering has its risks. And a trusted manager can help people like us navigate them more safely and efficiently.

Isg Not Msg

12-16-11, 14:32

Today I've noticed an increased police presence in areas of Pattaya normally frequented by tourists.

Anyone? Bueller?

BunkyPer Wikipedia, today is National Sports Day, commemorating the King's gold medal in sailing at the 1967 Southeast Asian Peninsular Games. The fireworks just finished.

LittleBigMan

12-16-11, 15:05

Today I've noticed an increased police presence in areas of Pattaya normally frequented by tourists.

In at least two places, the police have re-routed traffic. For example, at the intersection of Soi LK Metro and Soi Lengkee the cops are not permitting any turns, and it's impossible to drive from Soi LK Metro to Soi Lengkee. At the intersection of Soi Buakaow and South Pattaya road, the police have declared the latter is one way toward the beach. And in a several places I've noticed small groups of police and various government vehicles parked on the shoulders of the road.

Is there some holiday I don't know about? Big parade or festival?

Anyone? Bueller?

BunkyNow that you mentioned it I'm wondering myself although I didn't see anything police present. On Sukhumvit and Pattaya Nua at 12 noon today I noticed they put barriers to prevent you from making a right turn into Pattaya Nua and barriers placed on Sukhumvit preventing you from making a right into Pattaya Nua. Can't think of a holiday this weekend unless someone important coming to town?

LBM

Hatguy

12-16-11, 15:58

Fck Dick

12-16-11, 20:15

Expat1234

12-16-11, 21:55

I will be in Pattaya Jan 11th to the 19th 2012 if anyone wants to get together or a beer etc. This will be my first trip here, most of the time I am in the middle east and eastern Europe. I caught yellow fever from Bahrain.

LittleBigMan

12-17-11, 03:23

Apparently you don't seem to understand this but I was quoting the dd website. Do have a look for yourself.The manner in which you posted or paste it didn't come across the way it was suppose to but thanks for the clarification. Your clarification on the post also gives me more clarity as to what really happen between the owner and the old manager?

LBM

Hatguy

12-17-11, 05:10

The manner in which you posted or paste it didn't come across the way it was suppose to but thanks for the clarification. Your clarification on the post also gives me more clarity as to what really happen between the owner and the old manager?

LBMSo you didn't see the inverted commas I used? Theres no other way of posting a quote without getting into html stuff and I did not want to do that.

For everyone else my source was the website that I previously posted about. Ie devilsdenpattaya. Com

Ricardino12

12-17-11, 09:02

Can some one please tell me names of some safe places to monger and get good full girls in Pattaya. Bit worried after wathcing hang over 2. So please help.

Naked Gunz

12-17-11, 09:06

Am considering purchasing a condo in Jomtien at Keha Condo, Thepprasit Rd. Any info on this place?

Is there regular Baht bus running back and forth on Tappraya to Pattaya?

Thanks in advance.

Naked Gunz

12-17-11, 09:11

If I bring my own laptop, are there any wi-fi hotspots in Central Pattaya where I can get decent wi-fi internet access? I am willing to pay for it (just not the huge price my hotel demands for providing this service).I know a guy that goes to Starbucks at the Central Mall almost daily to run his online buisness.

He never mentioned anyrthing about cost.

El Greco

12-17-11, 09:57

Newbie here. Coming to Pattaya on Jan 4th. I was wondering will it be very crowded? How does mongering scene looks like around that time? Are hotels / Guestrooms available without pre-reservation or you need to book in advance?

Thanks in advanceThe truth is that it is crowded. Regarding the hotels it depends on the area you want to stay, how long and how much you want to spent.

The best value for money ones are already taken. Book your self one for a couple of nights and start searching once you are here. That's the way I do it.

During the floods a lot of very nice girls from BKK on the coco bar area (beach road). Nowdays the usual MILF trash. Still plenty of them in the bars but again the best ones are quiqkly taken for long time. E. G week etc

El Greco

12-17-11, 10:06

If I bring my own laptop, are there any wi-fi hotspots in Central Pattaya where I can get decent wi-fi internet access? I am willing to pay for it (just not the huge price my hotel demands for providing this service).Many places where you can have a coffee and connect for free. Simply ask for the password. Eg almost all places in the "Avenue" shopping mall on second road.

If you want to do it from your hotel room get your self a SIM card for this purpose for about 800baht / month. You need to have an unlocked 3G stick (WiFi router) for that.

Sangkid

12-17-11, 10:13

Rip Devils den. Apparently a coup took place.It only had to be a matter of time before the place was closed down. Prostitution is illegal in Thailand so what did they expect trying so openly to exploit the system. Maybe the under table line for payments just got too big and the girls in their pretty little uniforms didn't make enough to satisfy the various uniforms in line for payment. Nothing unusual in LOS.

LittleBigMan

12-17-11, 11:46

Am considering purchasing a condo in Jomtien at Keha Condo, Thepprasit Road. Any info on this place?

Is there regular Baht bus running back and forth on Tappraya to Pattaya?

Thanks in advance.You might want to check out the area more in detail before purchase since there are so many to choose from and yes of course there are Baht buses!

D. D. Was closed the Website and not the establishment. Whatever closure it had nothing to do with the Law and prostitution!

LBM

Crazy4Thai

12-17-11, 14:44

It only had to be a matter of time before the place was closed down. Prostitution is illegal in Thailand so what did they expect trying so openly to exploit the system. Maybe the under table line for payments just got too big and the girls in their pretty little uniforms didn't make enough to satisfy the various uniforms in line for payment. Nothing unusual in LOS.I have to wonder if you've ever been to Pattaya if you think DD is too obvious. The entire SMALL CITY is in your face pussy for money. (Thank You Jesus!)

So I also have to wonder what sort of NGO troll you might be.

C'mon men! Drop your socks and grab your cocks!

The pussy is wet, willing, and everywhere!

Pointy Stick

12-17-11, 15:19

d. d. was closed the website and not the establishment. whatever closure it had nothing to do with the law and prostitution!

lbmconfirmed, went past there on my way to bliss for a afternoon bj and it was still open.

the [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) lineup has gone to hell. wtf is happening there? i can only hope that the bkk branch has more lookers. is it too much to not to get a bj from a fat chick?

Run Mann

12-17-11, 15:48

the [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) lineup has gone to hell. wtf is happening there? i can only hope that the bkk branch has more lookers. is it too much to not to get a bj from a fat chick?if she's skilled and accommodating at it, what's the issue? bj bars generally have below average looking chicks. bliss is certainly not known for having lookers but like [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) they do have some good suckers.

Stakeout

12-17-11, 20:14

If you want to do it from your hotel room get your self a SIM card for this purpose for about 800baht / month. You need to have an unlocked 3G stick (WiFi router) for that.Thanks for the info. Can I get an unlocked 3G stick (WiFi router) in Pattaya? How much will it cost?

Fck Dick

12-17-11, 22:13

The truth is that it is crowded. Regarding the hotels it depends on the area you want to stay, how long and how much you want to spent.

The best value for money ones are already taken. Book your self one for a couple of nights and start searching once you are here. That's the way I do it.

During the floods a lot of very nice girls from BKK on the coco bar area (beach road). Nowdays the usual MILF trash. Still plenty of them in the bars but again the best ones are quiqkly taken for long time. E. G week etcThanks. We'll be staying for 3 nights only

Luvpuss

12-17-11, 22:45

Can some one please tell me names of some safe places to monger and get good full girls in Pattaya. Bit worried after wathcing hang over 2. So please help.That movie was a joke. Just go there and walk around. The entire place is basically a huge brothel and I have never had any safety issues.

Luvpuss

12-17-11, 22:47

confirmed, went past there on my way to bliss for a afternoon bj and it was still open.

the [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) lineup has gone to hell. wtf is happening there? i can only hope that the bkk branch has more lookers. is it too much to not to get a bj from a fat chick?i went to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s a twice a few weeks ago. there was one fairly cute girl there at 10am. the rest were not that great, but like others say, you are looking at the top of their head bouncing on your dick, so.

TomJackin

12-17-11, 23:40

Can some one please tell me names of some safe places to monger and get good full girls in Pattaya. Bit worried after wathcing hang over 2. So please help.Boots on the ground here. Stop watching silly movies and get your ass to the monger capital of the world. It is high season, so you can expect 40 to 50 thousand women in the town! The place is off the hook this time of the year, or any time, for that matter.

Fun And Sun

12-18-11, 00:41

confirmed, went past there on my way to bliss for a afternoon bj and it was still open.

the [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) lineup has gone to hell. wtf is happening there? i can only hope that the bkk branch has more lookers. is it too much to not to get a bj from a fat chick?i agree, and what used to be exemplary servicing skills from the girls, despite them lacking in the looks department, has deteriorated quite a bit too. last time i was in los i had two very average bjs from girls there, a small sample, but the place felt like it's going down hill a bit from what it used to be.

Dveight

12-18-11, 02:25

confirmed, went past there on my way to bliss for a afternoon bj and it was still open.

the [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) lineup has gone to hell. wtf is happening there? i can only hope that the bkk branch has more lookers. is it too much to not to get a bj from a fat chick?i always pick the fat chicks at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, they usually give the best blow jobs.

Oosik

12-18-11, 07:54

Try http://www.devilsdenthailand.com/

It's supposedly the new official site, and looks legit, but things are pretty confused.

TomJackin

12-18-11, 08:32

touched down in bangkok at about 4 am, and hightailed to pattaya, and got to my favorite hotel in the world, the penthouse at about 6. checked in, didn't unpack, off to see what was available on walking street at 6 in the morning. there were some rep001tered girls here and there, and a buttload of ladyboys, but i was still determined. started hitting the side streets off of walking street. i ran into 3 drunken ladies, two seemed like a good bet, the other i wasn't sure. all three tackled me in the middle of the road; bingo!

we went back to their bar and we had a drink and shots. one was in her early 20s, black school girl glasses, no lens, and a great rack of tits. the other early 30s, and i took to her like a fish to water. the third, nah. don't recall names at this point, let's go with pa and po. after they saw the room, they freaked, pa jumped up on the dance pole and po jumped in the fuck swing, and i was filling up the jacuzzi. i knew it would be a 9 night stay, so i brought 3 bottles of my buddy, mr. bubble.

the p&p team was hot. both loved the swing, dance pole, and playing for the mirrors over and around the bed. it took me damn near an hour to get them out of the jacuzzi, because both of them discovered the water jets. during rack operations, they both took turns sitting where ever they damn well pleased. they left at about 10, and i decided i would get some sleep. three hours later, i was ready to go again.

headed over to ian's place, sin bin on soi 13/3. i set a time for one of my favorites to meet me there, chilled with ian, and had tasty adult beverages again. mi showed up on time and was hotter than ever. she said her barfine was paid from some dude for the entire month, so she had plenty of time to play with me. good, bad, not sure. i noticed that there were a few lonely, underworked, massage ladies across the street, and i needed a massage, but i was too lazy to leave the bar for an hour. so i walked over and asked for a massage, and they tried to take me inside. i said no, i wanted take out service over at my chair in sin bin; one agreed.

sitting next to mi, getting an hour massage, and just enjoying the fuck out of life! mi and i headed to the beer garden for some chow. i've been living off of tom yum soup and rice so far, and that is fine with me. after, off to king crab to see dang, and have the crab cocktail, and dang's banana flambé; the best this world has to offer! time for more rack operations and mi has always been excellent in that department. now it's about 9 pm, i send mi off and this when i should have called it a night. the word 'should' always falls short in my life.

i'm off to see friends, and to make more friends. first stop was babydolls and mamasan and i reunited; love that woman. she has like 5 nieces that dance there, and they were all barfined already. mama brought over this fucking beauty and she played with me for a bit. then i get a call from nid, which used to work at the x-zone. but nid was not on the phone, it was miki, the mamasan that used to work at the x-zone, now at baron. i told miki i did not know where the bar was, so she came and got me. i hung at baron for a bit, but i was dying to get to the x-zone, so off i went.

x-zone was packed. the old owner is still part owner, and he was there with his son; both good people. the new half owner; no comment. omg, so many of my favorite girls were still there, and one of my favorites from rhino, returned, my hottie amp. i was surrounded by naked beauties; all wanting to play. yes, i was home! i had amp on one side, pom on the other, and pla on my lap grinding away. i had an 'i would not want to be anywhere else in the world right now' moments. its 12:30, and i'm tired as fuck, and don't want to wait until 2 for the cheaper barfine.

decision time, i love amp, but the other two are new blood and i've been curious about both of them the last couple of years; sorry amp, i barfined the other two. took off with the two, but needed to make stops on the way. these girls were a freaking blast. stopped in champion to see mamasan sue and to check out the talent and my girls went with the flow, they were having fun. mamasan sue assured me she had a couple of real hotties lined up for me, and i saw one of them already; i will return. off to the windmill to find my other heart throb, luk. place was packed, she was nowhere to be found.

pom wanted to stop by the airport, no problem. lots of hotties in there, but her friend wasn't, so we had a drink anyway. i was a happy camper. just hanging with my new girls and watching a bunch of others, which could be on the menu at a later time. pla wanted to dance, let's go! went to the small disco near the airport, name escapes me. danced for a while, but i was more concerned to get these two back to the room.

omg, what a tag team! they were both extremely passionate and a compete rush to play with. i filled the jacuzzi and pla went in head first; never saw that one before. then the competition started! who could give the longest underwater blowjob. it was their own doing, but i was fine with the game. pla won, even though she damn near drowned in the process. at one point pom passed out, but pla was still going strong. we called it short time, but they played for a good 3 hours.

i'm tired as hell, but happy to be home!

El Greco

12-18-11, 09:40

thanks for the info. can i get an unlocked 3g stick (wifi router) in pattaya? how much will it cost?of course. go to "two com" on pattaya thai st (south pattaya road) near the intersection with soi boukaw. the whole building is used for electronics. i believe they are in the range of 1. 500 baht. make sure you buy a 3g one for better reception not the edge.

the higher the speed the higher the price.

DeepMmpactt

12-18-11, 10:00

DeepMmpactt

12-18-11, 10:30

Bonker04

12-18-11, 12:21

of course. go to "two com" on pattaya thai st (south pattaya road) near the intersection with soi boukaw. the whole building is used for electronics. i believe they are in the range of 1. 500 baht. make sure you buy a 3g one for better reception not the edge.

the higher the speed the higher the price.good advice, it's the best place i have come across in pattaya. however i think is called tuk com. can't miss it, a huge pink building on the right about 500/600 metres as you walk away from second avenue.

Stakeout

12-18-11, 14:41

Good advice, it's the best place I have come across in Pattaya. However I think is called TUK Com. Can't miss it, a huge pink building on the right about 500/600 metres as you walk away from Second Avenue.Thanks, I know the place. So for 800 baht (for the sim card) and 1 500 baht (for the wifi router) , I will have a good wifi connection?

Crazy4Thai

12-19-11, 06:17

Thanks, I know the place. So for 800 baht (for the sim card) and 1 500 baht (for the wifi router) , I will have a good wifi connection?I'm not in Pattaya. I'm in south Thailand in a non tourist town.

My scenario is like this. I have an "aircard" not a wifi router and it plugs directly into my laptop usb. It comes with it's own SW.

It's by CAT. It's a 3g connection called CAT CDMA. It's fast enough to watch youtube, usually without waiting for spool time. The hardware cost me 3, 000. I pay another 800 baht per month for unlimited usage.

I'm replying to this because I think the other replies do not mention you have to pay for the time used. Like phone time. I may have this wrong but it seems that unless you've placed yourself where wifi is free, you need to pay the wifi provider. I my case CAT. I believe they also serve Pattaya.

C4T

Cand1980

12-19-11, 07:35

Guys,

I am planing to stay here around 1 month. I ll share my observations during my visit. By the way this is my 3rd trip to Pattaya in the last 1, 5 year.

Hotel: I am staying at Pattaya Noble Palace on Soi 13/2. Monthly cost 15. 000 THB Every 2 days towel change, every 4 days bed sheet change. Place is very nice. Rooms are big enough for a single man. In addition to this, there is no reception or security after 19. 00hrs. On the gate there is a electronic lock system thats all. In other words, you can bring countless of women without paying any fee. Place has a good wifi connection. It is more than enough even for me. But do not forget there is no elevator. Guesthouse is generally full. I advise you to complete your reservation before coming to Pattaya.

http://www.pattayanobleplace.com/

As everybody indicated before, barfines are going up significantly. Nowadays, barfines at go-go bars are 600THB for dancers 500THB for servants. At beer bars 300THB. I remember approximately 1 year before it was 300 THB at go-gos.

If you want to do some gym activities, I suggest you, California WOW. However, do hard negotiations in a gentlemen way. You can reduce the membership cost significantly. Place is nice, clean.

http://www.californiawowx.com/Home/home.php

For mobile phone, I am using DTAC network. You can buy simcard at airport. It is 99 baht. At Pattaya 3G connection is really good. Daily full 3G connection cost is 46THB. I do not know monthly cost. When I learn I will update you.

Devil's Den. Yep RIP.

Eternatita

12-19-11, 23:14

Can anybody advice me if there are any special places I need to go for a good 3-some. I mean where it is not just a show. But where there girls do the real thing? And how much do you pay for this for all night?

Are the any bars with nude dancers and good shows in Pattaya?

Thanks for you advice.What kind of 3-some you want? 2girls and 1men?

Or 2men and 1girl?

Junior

12-20-11, 01:49

Given the recent postings and website issues at the Den I thought I would share my recent (Saturday 17th dec.) observations with you.

I arrived in BKK Saturday morning and did the usual taxi transfer, accommodation check-in and a few other things before I set sail for Soi LK. I arrived at Billabong at 12. 15 to have a cold drink and to be in a position to observe the DD ladies. There were already a few of them outside the club. As my view was a bit obscured I quickly move to the adjacent bar to have a better vantage point. While changing bars I did a quick das over to the Den to handover some fruit I had bought for the ladies. I was greated by Wassana and Sammi, who remembered me from a past trip. Little did Sammi know that I had booked her for the day.

While I was drinking my drink at the adjacent bar Cerberus came by and said Hello, before heading back to work.

I crossed the street around 12. 45 to get a good look at the full line-up at 1pm. There were 25+ ladies in the line-up – many familiar faces and some new ones too. I learned that quite a few ladies had come back during recent days. So the line-up now includes: Sarah, Wan, Toni and Celine. I also believe Dar might return shortly.

After the line-up I had a chat with Sunny the new manager and we took care of the business end of things. I had originally booked 6 different ladies a month in advance, only to see 3 of them leave before my trip. So I had made a few amendments prior to my trip. All in all, my bookings were with 5 ladies when I entered the Den and with 9 ladies when I left the Den – so the line-up is as good as ever. Several of the ladies I was afraid I was going to miss due to the turmoil have now returned and I have a pretty full agenda with 8 bookings for the coming week.

This is my 6th visit to the Den (and Hell Club) and aside from the website being down and the postings on addicts, it very much seems business as usual for the clients.

One funny story from my day with Sammi I wanted to share. Following my long trip I was very tired to say the least and let her know from the beginning of our date that it would be a quiet day. As we came back to my condo she started to make plans for our day as we also had a party to attend in the evening. She said she would take care of me 5 times or 6 if I liked. I had to negotiate that down to 3 times as I was tired after the flight and severely hungover after the party.

Coolie High

12-20-11, 07:01

TomJackin,

So let me get this straight, you had a honey almost drown from deep throating you underwater to long? WTF! LOL! Sounds like GREAT times. I would say have a sambuca shot for me but we'll hold that off until I see you again in DR

Sangkid

12-20-11, 07:41

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Sangkid

12-20-11, 07:51

Dr BJ

12-20-11, 14:43

Hi BJ here.

One of the forums I regularly post on graciously invited me to their sexmas party on Saturday in Pattaya. Santa and a guy with a guitar were very good and well appreciated by all. Some of the people who left the venue before me missed this girl who was flashing her bits for all to see latch on to me (I don't know what it is but I seem to attract the crazy ones). She kept asking for a full internal examination in a private room, so I rubbed her clit a few times and told her that in my professional opinion she was fine. Bless one of the other girls who was standing at the bar, she caught my eye and gestured to me that it would be a very bad idea to take this girl anywhere. I laughed and gave her a reassuring glance to say I knew what she meant. After going for a cigarette in the other bar I noticed she had latched on to some poor guy sitting on a circular sofa (I smiled and thought good luck mate).

I was very impressed with the choice of ladies when we got to Spanky's. I sat next to (my apologies at this point I can remember he was from New Zealand but was way too pissed to remember his forum name, sorry). After a few san Miguel's my friend picked a very nice slim lady with curly hair which I have to say was a very good choice by him. My intention at this point was to sup a few more beers before selecting my flesh for the evening. I had spotted a striking looking lady with beautiful eyes and an 10/10 body, unfortunately after I had been to the toilet and ordered another beer she was nowhere to be seen. Undeterred by this minor setback I began to scan the more than ample choice still dancing. I caught the eye of a lady with an absolutely gorgeous face which lit up when she smiled (a smile which would make flowers blossom). She had medium length dyed hair, a sort of off blonde colour and an amazing pair of tits with the grandest nipples I have ever seen.

I bought her a few drinks and went through the usual array of bullshit questions. After about half an hour or so I suggested we depart to do the necessary deed. The taxi's were a pain in the arse and the ones I could see were asking for ridiculous money so I ended up walking back to the hotel which was in Soi 13. As we were walking I was amazed when I realized just how small she was, the smaller the stature the more of a turn on it is for me. After the shower I spent a long time kissing her and fondling those amazing tits and sucking those huge nipples for an inordinate amount of time. I interrupted the BJ and insisted she got straight on with the condom. She jumped on top and I took a grip of her tiny waist and started pumping away like I was possessed by demons. Honesty has to take a front seat at this point, I had gone out on the Friday night before with some staff from the salon and it started to exact it's insidious revenge, the captain betrayed me and began to wilt badly (putting on a condom doesn't ever help the situation, but I would never consider not using one). It was really frustrating as this was one of the cutest and hottest ladies from the bar, in my humble opinion. Bless her though, she put everything she had into a HJ which had the desired effect and finished me off grandly. Oh well onwards and upwards (or not, apparently). We went back to spanky's and had a few more drinks, well more than a few to be honest.

I eventually decided it was time to draw the curtain on the evenings proceedings and the lady graciously escorted me to a taxi on the main road (thought afterwards she may have been hoping I was going to ask her to join me back at the hotel again but at this point I couldn't even raise a smile never mind anything else). Great party and I really enjoyed myself.

Regards,

BJ

JohnHorner

12-22-11, 00:15

Hey all,

I'm gearing up for my 2nd trip to Pattaya end of Jan. I've read the FF and there doesn't seem to be much discussion on the Soapies in town!

I realize they are a bit pricey but theres just something about a hot naked women all soaped up rubbing herself all over that gets my motor running so I have to partake a couple times while I'm in town.

Last time I visited SabaiDee and SabaiLand, ended up doing SabaiDee twice as I never saw anything I liked at SabaiLand. However, I was wondering if anyone has any feedback regarding Rasputins or any others I have missed. Those are the only 3 I know off.

Any suggestions, or websites with current pricing or a lists of soapies would be welcome, or any other insights!

Thanks all!

Dolphin12

12-22-11, 05:47

As season is starting off and some of you guys might like to save time and to avoid lousy clubs, I hereby give my personal rating based on :

1. Atmosphere and Service 40%,

2. Quality of Dancers 40%,

3. Prices 20%.

Dolphin's Gogo Bar Rating Pattaya 2011/2012.

*****

Airport.

Baccara.

Diamond.

Fahrenheit.

What's up?

****

Peppermint.

Super baby.

TQ 1.

***

Champagne.

Living Dolls Showcase.

Oasis.

Sweethearts.

**

Alcatraz.

Champion.

Sapphire.

*

Iron Club.

Moon Club.

Spanky's.

Below zero. If you have a house in Chonburi and want to see your neighbors' grandma dancing, these are the places to go :

Club Nevada.

Far East Rock.

20 clubs out of 60 rated. Revised on time to time bases. Current Dec. 20/2011.

Junior

12-22-11, 06:36

As season is starting off and some of you guys might like to save time and to avoid lousy clubs, I hereby give my personal rating based on :

1. Atmosphere and Service 40,

2. Quality of Dancers 40,

3. Prices 20.

Dolphin's Gogo Bar Rating Pattaya 2011/2012.

*

Airport.

Baccara.

Diamond.

Fahrenheit.I certainly agree with Airport and Baccara. Not been to many of the other places.

Michi

12-22-11, 23:01

As season is starting off and some of you guys might like to save time and to avoid lousy clubs, I hereby give my personal rating based on :

1. Atmosphere and Service 40,

2. Quality of Dancers 40,

3. Prices 20.

Dolphin's Gogo Bar Rating Pattaya 2011/2012...No Babydolls on the list?

I am afraid we are very different style then.

TomJackin

12-23-11, 07:43

Epic night at the "I" Bar. Not really sure what the fuck happen, but I woke up with two sisters! Only in Pattaya!

Stakeout

12-23-11, 12:19

Any suggestions, or websites with current pricing or a lists of soapies would be welcome, or any other insights!Check out Honey Massage on Soi Honey. Very new rooms compared to the places you mentioned. Pricing is the same as these places.

Fck Dick

12-23-11, 17:57

When traveling from Bangkok airport to Pattaya, where in Pattaya Bus station is located? How far it is from Beach road or Soi 4? What are the best methods of transportation?

P. S. : First time to Pattaya

Dolphin12

12-23-11, 18:35

No Babydolls on the list?

I am afraid we are very different style then.I will revise the list beginning January and check your club to be rated!

Rocksoff

12-23-11, 19:50

When traveling from Bangkok airport to Pattaya, where in Pattaya Bus station is located? How far it is from Beach road or Soi 4? What are the best methods of transportation?The station for the airport bus is just outside Jomtien (say 10 minutes walk to the beach). You can catch a songteaw (pickup) next to the station for 10 baht which goes to Pattaya (just flag one down and get on, hand over 10 baht when you get down). Catch one going uphill, I. E. Back the way you came. Drop at Pattaya South Road (Pattaya Tai) and walk left. 2 minutes to the start of Beach Road.

Fck Dick

12-23-11, 20:53

Fck Dick

12-23-11, 21:03

Does anyone know any Lesbian show in Pattaya? What are the recommendations?

Mr Enternational

12-24-11, 00:03

The station for the airport bus is just outside Jomtien (say 10 minutes walk to the beach). You can catch a songteaw (pickup) next to the station for 10 baht which goes to Pattaya (just flag one down and get on, hand over 10 baht when you get down). Catch one going uphill, I. E. Back the way you came. Drop at Pattaya South Road (Pattaya Tai) and walk left. 2 minutes to the start of Beach Road.The closest bus station to where Fck Dick wants to go on Soi 4 with Beach Road is the one on North Pattaya / Pattaya Nua. If you look at the bottom right of this map http://www.mapofthailand.org/travel-map/pattaya-city-map/ Where it says Sukhumvit Road and look just above that you will see where it says Air-Con Bus to Bangkok and Bangkok Airport. This is the stop he wants to go to. From there as you said he can take a songthaew (baht bus) 5 minutes away to Soi 4. http://thailandeveryday.********.com/2010/05/lunch-in-pattaya.html If he goes all the way past Pattaya to Jomtien's bus station then it will take him an extra 30 minutes on the baht bus trying to backtrack.

Mr Enternational

12-24-11, 00:07

Does anyone know any Lesbian show in Pattaya?Sometimes I have one in my room. Contact Tomjackin; he is probably having one in his room right now.

Fon Tok

12-24-11, 01:04

Does anyone know any Lesbian show in Pattaya? What are the recommendations?Champagne a-Go-Go on Soi LK Metro. Every night at about 10pm.

Rocksoff

12-24-11, 07:05

you will see where it says Air-Con Bus to Bangkok and Bangkok Airport.There's an airport bus that goes to Pattaya Nua also? Didn't realise that.

LittleBigMan

12-24-11, 07:45

There's an airport bus that goes to Pattaya Nua also? Didn't realise that.That Bus service is called Bell Travel. I believe you can google it and you will find the website and their schedule. It is across from the regular bus station 200 baht to the airport and take like 1 1/2 hour.

LBM

AfAsia

12-24-11, 08:08

LittleBigMan

12-25-11, 03:31

Several years back I used a bus service Bangkok to Pattaya, I'm pretty sure it was Bell. They picked up from Nana (boom boom) hotel and dropped me at Queen Vic, Soi sex, Pattaya. Booking beforehand obviously required. It was a tedious means of travel, nowadays just take taxi 1200b.Yes, they do have those Toyota vans that go around to pick you up not sure of the cost. I have been using the Taxi service on Soi 4, near the Nana City Inn. For a meter taxi car one of those Toyota Vios I pay 1, 000 the last time. If you need a bigger vehicle they usually have a driver with a Volvo that will run you 1200/1500 baht including toll.

LBM

Pagal Chacha

12-25-11, 07:36

Anybody intrested in sharing cab to airport on above date PM me

Rocksoff

12-25-11, 12:46

That Bus service is called Bell Travel.Ah, of course, Bell. I was stuck on those big blue & white buses. I believe Bell can drop you most places in Pattaya.

Sexual Healing

12-26-11, 17:51

Check out Honey Massage on Soi Honey. Very new rooms compared to the places you mentioned. Pricing is the same as these places.On this issue, thing is, last time (1 year ago) I popped into SabaiDee line-up was very poor: either average-looking or short, fat girls. So I quit without trying.

Maybe they give a top service but for that price (still 1. 800 bath 90 mins?) I expect the girl to be a little attractive!

Don't know about Honey Massage, maybe you can tell us.

Hatguy

12-26-11, 21:10

Made it back to Thailand. Now in Pattaya after a few near misses on the highway in the taxi (Mr Keak). Not my drivers fault. There are some real idiots on the roads! LOL.

Anyway, went down to Heaven Above. There was one really hot big boobed nice arsed girl there. Ill go back for that and see if she will let me taste her. Don't remember the number but she was on fire.

Haven't had a chance (too tired) to check out much else but I will report back later on some good places etc. I plan to go the less traveled route via massage places and see what can be found. Hatguy

Sunlover2

12-27-11, 00:43

Ah, of course, Bell. I was stuck on those big blue & white buses. I believe Bell can drop you most places in Pattaya.I have used Bell Travel Service several times. They are an extremely professional organization, and in one memorable instance went the extra mile for me. IMO they are the best dollar value door to door service option between Bangkok / Suvarnabhumi Airport and Pattaya.

http://www.belltravelservice.com/

SunLover

Vittu

12-27-11, 01:15

Our ship will be parked overnight in Laem Chabang. Our first idea was to go to Bangkok (where we have been) but I am now comint to the conclusion that may be too frantic. Plan B is to take a cab to Pattaya, stay there overnight (been there) and then back in mid-morning to the port.

I'm told stories about the Laem Chabang taxi mafia and the extortion fares they charge. Should I just make arrangements with a Pattaya outfit for transportation? If so, any recommendations?

Betong

12-27-11, 07:05

I have used Bell Travel Service several times. They are an extremely professional organization . .They really are an example of how well the Thais can operate this kind of business when they try. I always use them now between the airport and Pattaya, door to door for B200. I reckon the thousand baht I save on the taxi is better used on Soi 6.

TomJackin

12-27-11, 08:40

Sometimes I have one in my room. Contact Tomjackin; he is probably having one in his room right now.Mr. E.

You either had a good hunch or know me too well!

Crazy4Thai

12-27-11, 12:12

SNIP.

I'm told stories about the Laem Chabang taxi mafia and the extortion fares they charge. Should I just make arrangements with a Pattaya outfit for transportation? If so, any recommendations?I know that these 2 specialize in Pattaya to Swampy airport but I expect they'd welcome the business and treat you fairly.

Mr. Nok 086835 8515. He did very well for me with a clean safe car and a good driver. Charges 1000 bt to the airport.

Mr. T has a good reputation on this board but I've not tried him personally. 081 258 7716. Charges 900 bt to the airport.

C4T

TomJackin

12-28-11, 03:03

Logistics:

Flew China Air for the first time because of the schedule and price. Really good service from the flight attendants and plenty of movies to watch. I only have a couple of complaints. First, the food kind of sucked; but still eatable (except for the eggs). Second, they are strict about the carry ons. Usually I check in one bag on the way over because I bring tequila with me, and bring the bag and my backpack on the way back so I don't have to wait at the damn carousel for forever and a day; not with this airline.

I used Mr. Keak taxi service for the first time and I was impressed with the cars and service. My plane was almost 2 hours late getting in BKK, but the driver was still there holding up my name. And the dude had patience. He waited in tow while I stopped at the 7-11 to get a sim card, phone minutes, and tasty adult beverages for the trip. All tolls included. 1000 to Pattaya, and 900 back to BKK. E-mails were returned quickly.

The hotel of choice for the past 15 years was the Penthouse (report posted in that thread). Why they keep letting me stay there; who knows. I've broken more shit in that hotel than any other guest. After my Christmas Eve party, the place looked almost as bad as the Hangover movie;"almost" was the key word.

Base Camp:

Sin Bin on Soi 13/3 was base camp for the entire stay. If you ever get a chance to stop by and meet the owner, Ian, do so. I met up with fellow monger GargantaProfunda (Gill) and Sin Bin is where we usually started and ended; place never seems to close. I've also fished for women from this bar, as they walk back and forth on the Soi, and had good success in the process.

The "Posse" (Nicknamed by Ian)

The Brat. One of my X-Zone buddies and pretty much was around whenever I called or she called. Hot dark skin girl that has Indian looking features. Why the Brat? She was just that from time to time, but that was part of her charm as well.

The Hottie. Another of my X-Zone buddies. She was a team player with the brat.

The Sister. I woke up one afternoon and gave the brat a kiss and a pat on the ass. Then I felt someone patting me on the ass, and I knew the hottie didn't sleep over. I asked the brat,"Who in the hell is this?" She replied,"Oh, that's my sister." I officially welcomed her to the team shortly thereafter.

The Beauty. Yet another of my X-Zone buddies and a friend as well. I've known her for a couple of years and was always fun to play with.

The "Posse" knew of my whereabouts most of the trip and were always a phone call away. The girls never mentioned money because they knew I would take care of them one way or another. They definitely made this trip special. None of them were jealous of the others; they were real team players.

The Coconut Bar:

The venders screwed up the beach action for both weekends. But during the weekdays, there were a lot of women available; more than I've ever saw before. My guess is it was because of high season. I only pulled one from the Coconut Bar, wasn't real impressed.

Clubs:

Halo. What is this fucking place? Gill and I took a stroll through and saw no reason for this place to exist.

Babydolls. Still one of my favorites. Mamasan has at least 5 nieces that dance there, keeping things in the family; I like that. Always a nice line up for hotties.

X-Zone. This place has changed due to ownership and Mamasan changes. When Miki left the club, she took many of the girls with her. But some of my favorites returned and we rejoiced.

Champion. When I was there in the summer, Mamasan Sue had a lineup of about 30-35 girls, now she is down to about 20-25. Still a decent selection of hotties.

Bacarra & Happy. Love both these places, but for some reason I could not get to either one more than twice. The lineup was good as always.

Baron. The is where Mamasan Miki now works. Not a big place and Miki has a few spinners, but she is still in the recruiting process.

Lucifer. Gill wanted to check out the place so we stopped in for a drink. It was still somewhat early and Gill and I was checking out the talent, and there was talent. Then, I met Lucifer's daughter! She came out of nowhere and had had this demon look in her eyes. Then she got closer and said,"I really like you." Then she wrapped her arms around me and refused to let go. I look over at Gill, who is staring down the talent, and I yell,"A little help here!" He came over, pried her off, and I ran out of the damn place.

"I" Bar. I quickly became fond of this place. The amount of women that flowed through that place was incredible. I only went up stairs a couple of times because I felt it was overcrowded and could not walk around as freely as I wanted. Gill and I was with the Posse one night in the "I" Bar and all of us were standing on the platform behind the pool tables. There was a party of six girls next to us that started sharing their bottle of Johnnie Walker. Bottle did not last long, so I started buying shots, then bottles, and it turned out to be one epic party. I went through two batteries on my digital and a shitload of Baht, but I have no regrets.

The Mamasan's Daughter Dilemma:

Gill and I were leaving Champion one night, and sitting outside next to the door was this stunner wearing regular clothes. I stop Gill because I wanted to say Hello. I asked her why she was out here and in perfect English, she said,"I'm waiting for my friend." She said she was just in Pattaya visiting family and had to leave in a couple of days. Shortly thereafter, Mamasan Sue walks out the door and said,"Oh, you met my daughter." I told Mama that I was just being friendly and to hold back her punches. I told Mama that we were just leaving to go to the "I" Bar. And for whatever reason, Mama told her to go with us.

Get to "I" Bar, drinks and shots start flowing; go figure. Gill decides to go back to Champion to check on one of the hotties he passed up. The daughter and I are drinking like fish and then she said,"I hope you take care of me because I'm getting drunk." I explained to her that there are two reasons that won't happen. First, the Brat and the Hottie are passed out in my bed and they may not play well with her. Second, you are Mamasan Sue's daughter, who happens to be my good friend. She looks, smiles, and said,"I'm not Mamasan's daughter." I said,"OK, so we will have to consider the first reason." Gill shows back up, and now the daughter is calling in more troops. Another stunner shows up! I told her to put that phone away; no more stunners allowed at this point. Lucky ass Gill took home the so called "daughter." The other stunner went elsewhere.

Overall thoughts:

Pattaya was packed! Tourists, mongers, and more importantly. 1000's and 1000's of women. Almost everywhere I looked, there were spinners and stunners. I must have said,"Oh my Buddha!" a thousand times during the trip.

The last night we were all partying at the Sin Bin, and Ian looked over and said,"You are going to miss the Posse." He was dead right; I already do!

Mr Enternational

12-28-11, 04:00

"I" Bar. I quickly became fond of this place. The amount of women that flowed through that place was incredible. I only went up stairs a couple of times because I felt it was overcrowded and could not walk around as freely as I wanted. Gill and I was with the Posse one night in the "I" Bar and all of us were standing on the platform behind the pool tables. There was a party of six girls next to us that started sharing their bottle of Johnnie Walker.Excellent summary Tomjackin. This is yet another reason why I love Pattaya. Where else on this planet do you get women inviting you over to their table to drink THEIR liquor? Shit just doesn't happen.

DeepMmpactt

12-28-11, 06:16

Carrib

12-28-11, 06:34

Excellent report-

I will be in Bangkok and Pattaya in April. Looking forward to some good times

Frankfurter

12-28-11, 08:21

What happened to all the Beach Road beauties in this five mile long market stall madness? Where are they? This is not supposed to be that way! .