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What happened to all the Beach Road beauties in this five mile long market stall madness? Where are they? This is not supposed to be that way! .They have all run away tired of meeting old, washed up falangs who just want to pay 50 baht for a fuck. All that's left is the dross. I've been saying this for the last six months.
I'm witnessing and hearing more and more about foreign beach road casualties and still can't believe guys on this forum openly recommending picking up these girls. I know I go on about the quality of these women and that many members have consigned me to the ignore bin. Not forgetting the mods as well who have banned some of my statements when I sometimes question the promotional drivel written by some members. I can assure you that I've been around long enough to understand what is happening in this town and that it's getting worse. Anyone coming to Pattaya, especially first time, needs to be very careful on the Beach Road. Late at night don't even think about taking a stroll down the beach side of the beach road. You are a prime target especially if you are showing signs of being drunk.
Guy walking on the beach side of the beach road at around 10 at night right by Central Festival. Not drunk. Approached by a woman who put her left hand on his dick and right hand in his back pocket where she removed his wallet. Within seconds she'the sped off on the back of a waiting motor bike. This is right by the fucking police station the Christ's sake.
Guy picked up his girl on the beach at 2 in the morning. Took her back to his hotel. Woke up the next morning and his gold chain and his watch had gone.
Guy picked up his girl from the beach at 4 in the afternoon. Took her back to his hotel and woke up the following afternoon. He had been drugged. Girl took wallet, watch camera, notebook and gold chain.
This is just in the space of a few days in one area. There must be so much more of this type of behavior in many more areas of Pattaya. Yes I know there are some street wise-guys out there who survived Brazil easily enough and to them Pattaya is a pussy cat but, it's fucking dangerous. Don't believe me then take a walk to Soi 9 and speak with the ex-pat officers there. They will soon put you right. Yes it might be high season but for the locals it's rich pickings as more and more farangs, especially those who are drunk, get conned.
If you need a girl then pay the bar fine. In the long run it's a lot cheaper.
LittleBigMan
12-28-11, 13:01
What happened to all the Beach Road beauties in this five mile long market stall madness? Where are they? This is not supposed to be that way! .If it would help I would tell you to write to the moron that runs Pattaya, the tourist side who is located at City Hall, Pattaya Nua!
LBM
Always Randy
12-28-11, 14:26
Appreciation: Thank you, positive ISG posters. I've learned lots and was inspired to contribute myself.
I'll be in Patts 1 thru 29 May 2012. If any ISG member wants to meet up for a drink / beer, PM me.
Warning: Do not read this report if you're easily bored or really negative / critical.
I wrote this guide (an annex to my 'LOS Oct 2011 Trip Report') to help newbies or those wanting advice. YMMV, all of this is IMHO, costs / times / figures are approx, hopefully I'm not talking out of my ass too much & everything's subject to change. This guide is based on my experiences and what I would / will do with a focus on saving money. I'm in my 30s, Asian-American, average looking / personality, cheap.
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Cheers: That's all I can think of to put in this LOS Guide for now. Good luck out there.EXCELLENT post AMEX SPG! These details are extremely useful for anyone planning a trip. Your reports sharing your experiences is what makes ISG so great! Thank you for taking the time to write them!
Guy picked up his girl on the beach at 2 in the morning. Took her back to his hotel. Woke up the next morning and his gold chain and his watch had gone.
Guy picked up his girl from the beach at 4 in the afternoon. Took her back to his hotel and woke up the following afternoon. He had been drugged. Girl took wallet, watch camera, notebook and gold chain.I won't argue with your options, or the veracity of your comments, but will take it on faith you are trying to help inexperienced mongers. So, I will ad a bit. The two situations above show evidence of foolish, rookie mistakes. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER have exposed valuables to tempt working girls. I have an IPod and a music stand out- if those are stollen I will survive.Lock up all valuables in your safe. A safe is my number one requirement while mongering, and if it is a key safe, I hide the key in a very safe and out of the way place BEFORE I get back to the room with a working girl. Only keep enough money around to pay them and for daily expenses. The same goes walking around at night (even during the day). Have your main wallet in your safe, and keep a dummy wallet with cash for the day. A copy of your passport can be kept in this wallet, or in your pants.
Also, control your drink at all times while mongering- do not allow a women to touch your drink or have access to it. One can easily do this with grace, and if you find a women excessively interesting in what you are drinking, this is a warning sign. At the first sign of any redflags, give twenty bucks to her and ask her to leave (or if afer the session, pay and ask her to leave quickly).
If your going to get drunk, do so in the most controlled enviornment possible- I. E. Stay at a guest house and wind up there or at a bar very close by BEFORE you get fucked up. Or, if you travel with a wingman, don't both get totally shit faced at the same time.
Things can always happen, but reduce the liklyhood of problems by following good safety guidelines. In a very real sense, the more I follow safey rules the more relaxed I can be and really just "let go."
What happened to all the Beach Road beauties in this five mile long market stall madness? Where are they? This is not supposed to be that way! .What do you expect for 500B including putting it in their butt. I was there a few weeks ago and was surprised by the quantity and quality. To each there own.
I'm witnessing and hearing more and more about foreign beach road casualties and still can't believe guys on this forum openly recommending picking up these girls. I know I go on about the quality of these women and that many members have consigned me to the ignore bin. Not forgetting the mods as well who have banned some of my statements when I sometimes question the promotional drivel written by some members. I can assure you that I've been around long enough to understand what is happening in this town and that it's getting worse. Anyone coming to Pattaya, especially first time, needs to be very careful on the Beach Road. Late at night don't even think about taking a stroll down the beach side of the beach road. You are a prime target especially if you are showing signs of being drunk.
Guy walking on the beach side of the beach road at around 10 at night right by Central Festival. Not drunk. Approached by a woman who put her left hand on his dick and right hand in his back pocket where she removed his wallet. Within seconds she'the sped off on the back of a waiting motor bike. This is right by the fucking police station the Christ's sake.
Guy picked up his girl on the beach at 2 in the morning. Took her back to his hotel. Woke up the next morning and his gold chain and his watch had gone.
Guy picked up his girl from the beach at 4 in the afternoon. Took her back to his hotel and woke up the following afternoon. He had been drugged. Girl took wallet, watch camera, notebook and gold chain.
This is just in the space of a few days in one area. There must be so much more of this type of behavior in many more areas of Pattaya. Yes I know there are some street wise-guys out there who survived Brazil easily enough and to them Pattaya is a pussy cat but, it's fucking dangerous. Don't believe me then take a walk to Soi 9 and speak with the ex-pat officers there. They will soon put you right. Yes it might be high season but for the locals it's rich pickings as more and more farangs, especially those who are drunk, get conned.
If you need a girl then pay the bar fine. In the long run it's a lot cheaper.So some drunks were the victims of thefts. I really don't call that "dangerous". Were their nuts chopped off? Thefts and ripoffs happen everywhere in every tourist city in the world.
I'm witnessing and hearing more and more about foreign beach road casualties and still can't believe guys on this forum openly recommending picking up these girls. I know I go on about the quality of these women and that many members have consigned me to the ignore bin. Not forgetting the mods as well who have banned some of my statements when I sometimes question the promotional drivel written by some members. I can assure you that I've been around long enough to understand what is happening in this town and that it's getting worse. Anyone coming to Pattaya, especially first time, needs to be very careful on the Beach Road. Late at night don't even think about taking a stroll down the beach side of the beach road. You are a prime target especially if you are showing signs of being drunk.
Guy walking on the beach side of the beach road at around 10 at night right by Central Festival. Not drunk. Approached by a woman who put her left hand on his dick and right hand in his back pocket where she removed his wallet. Within seconds she'the sped off on the back of a waiting motor bike. This is right by the fucking police station the Christ's sake.
Guy picked up his girl on the beach at 2 in the morning. Took her back to his hotel. Woke up the next morning and his gold chain and his watch had gone.
Guy picked up his girl from the beach at 4 in the afternoon. Took her back to his hotel and woke up the following afternoon. He had been drugged. Girl took wallet, watch camera, notebook and gold chain.
This is just in the space of a few days in one area. There must be so much more of this type of behavior in many more areas of Pattaya. Yes I know there are some street wise-guys out there who survived Brazil easily enough and to them Pattaya is a pussy cat but, it's fucking dangerous. Don't believe me then take a walk to Soi 9 and speak with the ex-pat officers there. They will soon put you right. Yes it might be high season but for the locals it's rich pickings as more and more farangs, especially those who are drunk, get conned.
If you need a girl then pay the bar fine. In the long run it's a lot cheaper.I sincerely hope none of the members on this board got ripped off. Once again remember to lock up your gold ornaments including watch, wallet, expensive phone or anything of value. Carry only local currency to the amount you think you need for the night. Keep a watch over your drinks (I know it is hard ).
I believe most of the victims are probably tourists who think they can trust these sweet looking ladies. Given the chance any working girl all over the world would rob you blind. Once when I was in Beijing I met a cool girl in the bar. She had her own car. Once inside the room I locked up my valuables in the safe deposit box in full view of the girl without her seeing the combination. I was staying at beijing International hotel. She did take offence and asked me about it. I told her it is my usual routine and it did not relect on her. Ofcourse given the opportunity she would have cleaned me up.
I had a gf in Thailand and I trusted her enough that she carried all my money and wallet whenever we went out. She was so thorough that she would doublecheck all bills and did not pay any tips because in Thailand nobody pays tips according to her. She is one of a million I suppose.
JohnHorner
12-29-11, 01:40
I'm witnessing and hearing more and more about foreign beach road casualties and still can't believe guys on this forum openly recommending picking up these girls. I know I go on about the quality of these women and that many members have consigned me to the ignore bin. Not forgetting the mods as well who have banned some of my statements when I sometimes question the promotional drivel written by some members. I can assure you that I've been around long enough to understand what is happening in this town and that it's getting worse. Anyone coming to Pattaya, especially first time, needs to be very careful on the Beach Road. Late at night don't even think about taking a stroll down the beach side of the beach road. You are a prime target especially if you are showing signs of being drunk.
Guy walking on the beach side of the beach road at around 10 at night right by Central Festival. Not drunk. Approached by a woman who put her left hand on his dick and right hand in his back pocket where she removed his wallet. Within seconds she'the sped off on the back of a waiting motor bike. This is right by the fucking police station the Christ's sake.
Guy picked up his girl on the beach at 2 in the morning. Took her back to his hotel. Woke up the next morning and his gold chain and his watch had gone.
Guy picked up his girl from the beach at 4 in the afternoon. Took her back to his hotel and woke up the following afternoon. He had been drugged. Girl took wallet, watch camera, notebook and gold chain.
This is just in the space of a few days in one area. There must be so much more of this type of behavior in many more areas of Pattaya. Yes I know there are some street wise-guys out there who survived Brazil easily enough and to them Pattaya is a pussy cat but, it's fucking dangerous. Don't believe me then take a walk to Soi 9 and speak with the ex-pat officers there. They will soon put you right. Yes it might be high season but for the locals it's rich pickings as more and more farangs, especially those who are drunk, get conned.
If you need a girl then pay the bar fine. In the long run it's a lot cheaper.I can vouch for this on Soi 6 as well. Every 10 feet I run into a LB who wants to "trick" me for some reason. (If anyone has any good tips on bypassing LBs, I would be most grateful! Eventually as they were approaching I'd ask "LB?" and they to their credit did say yes, and I'd smile and shake my head, but still annoying that EVERY ONE had to come up to me.) Anyway, when I first got there I hadn't figured this out, so they would all run out of their respective beer bar and grab my hand and try to pull me into buying a drink. I was a bit tipsy in one event and she / he grabbed one of my hands with both of hers, pushed up against me, and the other hand headed around to the back side. Now I'm one of the lucky ones that alchohol never truly takes over, and I'm generally aware of my surroundings at all times, so my left hand went with hers and caught it before it tried my back pocket (Of course I carry everything in my front pockets for this very reason, or side pockets on cargo pants / shorts.
So in summary, I do not believe location matters, at where a con like this can go down. Beach Road, Soi 6, your room, if you leave the door open, the opportunity of getting ripped off awaits.
When I go out, I only take enough for me to drink on and pay the barfines (front pocket) , I then hide my a couple of pay moneys around the room in less conspicuous spots, IE under clothes, behind curtains, etc which I can use to pay so I never open my safe whilst the ladies are in the room.
Mr Enternational
12-29-11, 06:20
From cnngo http://www.cnngo.com/explorations/escape/7-beaches-to-avoid-776302 (P. S. The link at the bottom paints a pretty accurate picture of Pattaya IMHO) :
2. Seediness: Pattaya, Thailand.
About 150 kilometers southeast of Bangkok, Pattaya came to prominence as a favored venue for American GIs seeking a break during the Vietnam War.
Its reputation today is based more on go-go bars and sex shows than its sand and sea offerings.
That said, the beer-bar culture is more subdued and the sex industry less evident than in years gone by –- families can avoid the "entertainment" district of this city of 800, 000 people by staying in nearby Jomtien.
The beaches are lackluster by Thailand's impressive standards and the shoreline is packed with unremarkable hotels and restaurants. Throw into the mix the common sight of countless fat old gents promenading along the beaches with their "girlfriends" in tow and you have a recipe for an experience that can challenge to uplift.
Deck chairs and umbrella concessions dominate beach space in both Pattaya and Jomtien, so those wishing to enjoy the sun, sand and water for free are forced to cram into small areas of beach between. A frequent complaint from tourists that local government officials say they are trying to solve.
Local efforts to convert Pattaya into more of a family-friendly destination continue. The city's international marketing efforts have led to an influx in the number of visitors from non-traditional tourism markets.
With all the criticism it cops, Pattaya appears to be on the cusp of change again, but becoming a true family-friendly holiday spot is still some considerable time away and requires further aggressive action by local government and authorities.
Additional reporting by John Le Fevre.
More on CNNGo: The challenges facing Pattaya http://www.cnngo.com/bangkok/visit/pattayas-family-friendly-push-threatened-615410
I sincerely hope none of the members on this board got ripped off. Once again remember to lock up your gold ornaments including watch, wallet, expensive phone or anything of value. Carry only local currency to the amount you think you need for the night. Keep a watch over your drinks (I know it is hard ).
I believe most of the victims are probably tourists who think they can trust these sweet looking ladies. Given the chance any working girl all over the world would rob you blind. Once when I was in Beijing I met a cool girl in the bar. She had her own car. Once inside the room I locked up my valuables in the safe deposit box in full view of the girl without her seeing the combination. I was staying at beijing International hotel. She did take offence and asked me about it. I told her it is my usual routine and it did not relect on her. Ofcourse given the opportunity she would have cleaned me up.
I had a gf in Thailand and I trusted her enough that she carried all my money and wallet whenever we went out. She was so thorough that she would doublecheck all bills and did not pay any tips because in Thailand nobody pays tips according to her. She is one of a million I suppose.Yes, another member of this forum did get ripped off and a very good friend of mine. He won't say anything but this has totally fucked his holiday and I don't think he will come back. At least he is paying bar fines now.
As you can imagine my circle of friends is very small so I just get to hear a few cases. There must be so many more farangs getting the same treatment.
Be careful out there and pay the bar fines. They are not that much and at least provide some kind of safety net.
Mitian 1994
12-29-11, 12:14
Reached Bangkok last Sunday and took the Bell service bus to Pattaya. Good service and got dropped at my hotel. Tim Boutique.
The hotel was nice but looked expensive at 2200 baht per night. GF friendly and very friendly atmosphere.
I had done RTFF and hence had planned the important places to be visited.
X- Zone. Was good with some shows which had the customers involved in Fisting / Banana eating from the pussy etc. Good to watch.
Baccara na dSuper baby were also having some good girls but got a bit bored as all the girls wanted to have bar fined for ST for 2500 baht. Wasnt interested and as suggested in the Forum, picked up a FL from walking street for 2000 for LT.
Turned out to be total starfish and cut short to ST for 1300.
2nd day visited the famous PP massage for soapy. Pretty much mechanical stuff but had the minimum service level for 1800. The girl was hurrying as she was a bit experienced but the basic services of CBJ, Shower and then doggy were fine.
Then went to some more gogos and around 1am landed at one at soi 6. Just before the silver star gogo. Nice ambinece and the girls were having a Jacussi show.
Called the Show girl for LD and she was Awesome. Probably drunk a bit but was so good that it got embarrasing as she did everything possible at the bar and was pushing for ST.
Did the same at 1400 inclusinve of barfine and the room and was great. Her name was Fern and is strongly recommended.
Also visited Coral island. Parasaliing and under sea walk. All for 2000. Worth it for sure.
Overall great 2 days spent at Pattaya and hopefully would be back sometime in the next Few! Years.
Bangkok report in the Bangkok thread.
Frankfurter
12-29-11, 13:08
Wow, with this.not entirely serious- Beach Road comment I started quiet something. Thanks for all the honest opinions. I personally recommend not to get drunk, actually wherever you are:
1. It makes you a potential victim (see the posts) ;
2. It makes you look even more foolish than you are regularly;
And best of all:
3. You don't really know anymore when you are having serious fun, the kind we are looking for.
Keep it up, fellow mongers, and leave the gold watch and chain at home, the girls couldn't care less anyway.
Jimmy Red Cab
12-29-11, 13:12
Keep it up, fellow mongers, and leave the gold watch and chain at home, the girls couldn't care less anyway.Good advice, you can buy a nice looking fake watch for 500 baht or less, no need to wear a genuine Rolex.
Frankfurter
12-29-11, 13:18
OK, this reads a little weird, in a perverted way, I am sorry:
Yesterday afternoon I passed on the motorbike near the covered market on South Pattaya Road, near Wat Chai Mongkon a sexy girl, maybe 3-4 ft. Tall, max. Imagine the possibilities! She wore a cool straw hat and looked hot. Because of the traffic I couldn't pull over, by the time I was able to make a U she was gone. Anybody know her or where she can be found?
Fawn The Guyver
12-29-11, 13:39
OK, this reads a little weird, in a perverted way, I am sorry:
Yesterday afternoon I passed on the motorbike near the covered market on South Pattaya Road, near what Chai Mongkon a sexy girl, maybe 3-4 ft. Tall, max. Imagine the possibilities! She wore a cool straw hat and looked hot. Because of the traffic I couldn't pull over, by the time I was able to make a U she was gone. Anybody know her or where she can be found?Yeah sure then you can ask already if someone have see a black hair girl. If you have no photo (what you not have) I think you can forget it, the only thing would be you go everyday there. You have see where she was, so it is a good chance you will find she there again. But it can be she have come only to visit someone and she is already gone.
So if you have time go there around the time you have passed when after 1 week you not find here I would sugest you give up.
What happened to all the Beach Road beauties in this five mile long market stall madness? Where are they? This is not supposed to be that way! .Can't help there I'm afraid! I've been in town three days now and each afternoon, and evening till late, whenever I've passed along Beach Road not a single FL to be found! There
Doesn't seem to be a greater number of them in Walking Street either, so I've no idea where they've gone! Is this new market a permanent feature now does anyone know? I
Asked a stall holder how long it will be going on for and she said 'Long time'. Not sure what she meant by that. Unless she was a FL in disguise LOL!
Pity really, I have had some real gems from there over the years!
Yes, another member of this forum did get ripped off and a very good friend of mine. He won't say anything but this has totally fucked his holiday and I don't think he will come back. At least he is paying bar fines now.
As you can imagine my circle of friends is very small so I just get to hear a few cases. There must be so many more farangs getting the same treatment.
Be careful out there and pay the bar fines. They are not that much and at least provide some kind of safety net.Barfining does not protect you from sticky fingered girls or girls who will slip drugs in your drink. Yes, you can complain but rarely any bars will take action in the absence of evidence. They might listen to your sad.
Story, offer a free drink. That is about it.
All this talk about people being robbed and women taking things from the rooms made want to chime in about my only bad experience in the 33+ years that I've been going to Pattaya.
One night I decided to go the disco route and see what I could pick up for 1000 baht at the "I" Bar. I met this girl and we hit it off quite well. I was buying the drinks and shots of course. Some light kissing, touching, and squeezing; I liked her. Turns out she worked at the Honey Bar on Walking Street and she wanted to stop there to introduce me to her friends. We had a drink, shared some street food, and we played well together. I really liked Miss Jekyll.
After we arrived at the Penthouse and was riding the elevator to the top floor, she had some questions."What kind of hotel is this?" "Why you stay this hotel?" and so forth. Got in the room and she started exploring the sex swing, dance floor & pole, and the jacuzzi. Then more questions were asked."What kind of loom is this?" "Why you stay in this loom?" I explained that the room was made for fucking and not questions. She got naked as I lit up the jacuzzi, but had a different look on her face. I told her if this all confused her, she would be better off leaving right now.
Hello, Miss Hyde! She said she wanted money for her time, so I threw her a couple hundred baht and told her to get the fuck out. Nope, she threw the 200 on the floor and she demanded 1000, even though money was never discussed. I told her that she was lucky enough to get what I gave her and to move on. Nope, she walked over and picked up both of my phones and acted like she was going to destroy them, and my laptop was next to her as well. I figured be the time I got to the hotel phone to call security, the damage would be already done. I threw 1000 at her, called her a bunch of fucking names, and got her out of the room as fast as I could. I really didn't like Miss Hyde!
I attached a picture so you can stay clear of her in the future!
Barfining does not protect you from sticky fingered girls or girls who will slip drugs in your drink. Yes, you can complain but rarely any bars will take action in the absence of evidence. They might listen to your sad.
Story, offer a free drink. That is about it.Not true.
When you bar fine a girl, you know where she works and the police can identify and locate her if she comits a crime at your expense. She's going to be a lot less inclined to rip you off as she can be arrested and / or lose her job. You don't have that advantage with Coconut Bar girls.
Not true.
When you bar fine a girl, you know where she works and the police can identify and locate her if she comits a crime at your expense. She's going to be a lot less inclined to rip you off as she can be arrested and / or lose her job. You don't have that advantage with Coconut Bar girls.Having any girl in your room is a risk. Your comments are true, but only if they want to believe your story.
Having any girl in your room is a risk. Your comments are true, but only if they want to believe your story.Oh, they'll believe Daddy. He is a well known Pattaya "Bon Vivant."
Oh, they'll believe Daddy. He is a well known Pattaya "Bon Vivant."OK, thanks, that does make a difference. Lucky him.
Crazy4Thai
12-30-11, 04:44
Speaking of security issues, on two occasions the phone did not ring in my room after pleasurable sessions. When I went to the lobby some hours later my "friend" at reception said "Why you not answer your phone after lady go?"
Hmmm. Maybe I was drugged or dead. Why you not come find out? The wire in the bottom of the phone was not fully engaged.
GargantaProfunda
12-30-11, 05:21
A belated addendum to complement Tomjackin's fine report.
It was my first time in Pattaya and I flew in on Air Asia. Fine airline with great rates from within Asia.
I stayed at the Sheraton Resort which has it's pros and cons. Pros. Beautiful resort with a quiet setting, three pools and bungalow-like rooms. My particular room had an ocean view, his / hers bathrooms, a waterfall bathtub and a private patio overlooking a pool. Cons. It's far from central Pattaya and the action, free shuttles only run about 6 times a day and a cab will cost you 200 baht each way. But I can tell you it's girl friendly. I made note to arrive with girls at the front of the driveway and walk down the path to my room directly, avoiding the lobby walk-of-shame route.
As for the action, I was hoping to enjoy the FLs on Beach Road the way that Sushilover and other have recently. But I didn't have the luck that Sushi and others did with BR and FLs. In fact over the 5 days I didn't find anyone on BR that I found worth bringing home.
Soi 6, 7.8 were also similarly disappointing. As Tomjackin and I found out, the attitudes of the girls and LBs on 6, 7.8 are just plain sour. Not sure why, but everyone seems to be pissed off or not interested in having fun.
So that leaves Walking Street and other joints around Soi 13. Soi 13/3 was mostly fun because we made Sin Bin our home base. It was great having a place to relax among friends like Ian and a growing cast of characters around there. A regular relaxing meal, Thai or English was always on tap. Also legit massage was available across the street for 200b per hour. A great place to relax between WS forays.
Onto WS, where the best times were to be had. The scene there is pretty overwhelming, it's like Soi Cowboy in Bangkok times ten. Everything is there in your face as you stumble down the main street with Baccarat, Insomnia, etc. And then continue down it's back alleys to find X zone or Champion or Baron.
Some notable successes were, as Tomjackin mentioned, the daughter / niece of the mamasan of Champion. After wavering a bit, Tomjackin was kind enough to send her home with me. Turned out to be the best experience of my trip, pure GFE with an 18 yo, classy young lady. A second round in the morning complete with CIM settled things nicely. Money was not mentioned the entire time, nonetheless I stuffed some bills in her purse just before dropping her at her hotel.
There were a few not so great experiences notably a bargirl from Soi 8 Lucky Bar who apparently is the only working girl in Pattaya who doesn't offer BJ (not even CBJ) and left at 6am the next morning with no second round.
On the plus side there were the fun times chasing girls with Tomjackin and Ian at various venues. Some of the finest gentlemen I've had the pleasure of hobbying with. As mentioned before, my last night with Tomjackin and 4 girls at Insomnia was an epic of drunken debauchery. We ended drinking and dancing until the place closed, then each of us left with two girls back to our respective hotels. The most interesting part to me was taking home the girls who initially looked like shy civilians, that is non-working girls. The sister of the brat and her skinny friend looked and dressed completely like straight girls. Even mentioning the topic of sleeping over seemed awkward. The skinny friend especially seemed timid and proper. But as the night wore on, and the whisky shots flowed, skinny girl and the sister became wilder dancers and up for a proper grinding. Very fun watching this transformation, with the coup de grace coming as we tore off on motorcycle taxis with our pro and am girls in tow.
Other notable girls:
"Yellow Shirt" a friend of the very cute young waitress at Sin Bin. She strolled into Sin Bin wearing a ginormous yellow tshirt and I didn't take much notice of her until she lifted the shirt revealing a rocking tight body in a cocktail dress. Tomjackin and I looked at each other and both said,"I'd tap that!" Unfortunately she was off to her job taking polaroids on Soi 8, then later Insomnia. We found her at Insomnia but she was in her own estimate too drunk to do anything. Next day we were looking for her on Soi 8, but eventually found her as we rode in the back of those pickup truck taxis. She rode up to us in her scooter and flirted shamelessly, but again we could never sample those sweet goods.
"No 20" dancer at Baccarat. Closest I'd seen to a 10 in Pattaya. Over the course of the week, I'd learned (and Tomjackin stronglyy reminded me) that to hesitate is to lose in Pattaya. Thus I immediately called her over intending to barfine her unless she had a completely negative vibe. She was sweet and lovely, but to my chagrin I learned she had already been barfined and was waiting for her customer to return for the pickup. So unfair! If anyone has experience or pics of her please do share or PM me.
Baron girls. Two lovely young spinners here. One I would not take because she had no I'd. The other one, lives at home and would not go LT as she had to return home at some point in the night / morning.
Sometimes, the ones that get away are more memorable than bad or mediocre experiences. The good company and experiences in Pattaya more than merit a return visit.
Sin Bin on Soi 13/3 was base camp for the entire stay. If you ever get a chance to stop by and meet the owner, Ian, do so. I met up with fellow monger GargantaProfunda (Gill) and Sin Bin is where we usually started and ended; place never seems to close. I've also fished for women from this bar, as they walk back and forth on the Soi, and had good success in the process.
All this talk about people being robbed and women taking things from the rooms made want to chime in about my only bad experience in the 33+ years that I've been going to Pattaya.
One night I decided to go the disco route and see what I could pick up for 1000 baht at the "I" Bar. I met this girl and we hit it off quite well. I was buying the drinks and shots of course. Some light kissing, touching, and squeezing; I liked her. Turns out she worked at the Honey Bar on Walking Street and she wanted to stop there to introduce me to her friends. We had a drink, shared some street food, and we played well together. I really liked Miss Jekyll.
After we arrived at the Penthouse and was riding the elevator to the top floor, she had some questions."What kind of hotel is this?" "Why you stay this hotel?" and so forth. Got in the room and she started exploring the sex swing, dance floor & pole, and the jacuzzi. Then more questions were asked."What kind of loom is this?" "Why you stay in this loom?" I explained that the room was made for fucking and not questions. She got naked as I lit up the jacuzzi, but had a different look on her face. I told her if this all confused her, she would be better off leaving right now.
Hello, Miss Hyde! She said she wanted money for her time, so I threw her a couple hundred baht and told her to get the fuck out. Nope, she threw the 200 on the floor and she demanded 1000, even though money was never discussed. I told her that she was lucky enough to get what I gave her and to move on. Nope, she walked over and picked up both of my phones and acted like she was going to destroy them, and my laptop was next to her as well. I figured be the time I got to the hotel phone to call security, the damage would be already done. I threw 1000 at her, called her a bunch of fucking names, and got her out of the room as fast as I could. I really didn't like Miss Hyde!
I attached a picture so you can stay clear of her in the future!Hate this situation. But unavoidable and shit happens. Been in similar situations many times. Throwing a 1000 to get her out is the best action to me given the situation. Too bad you couldn't smell it before hand. I would have gone out and got another sure fire one to make up for the night. Cheers and happy hunting.
All this talk about people being robbed and women taking things from the rooms made want to chime in about my only bad experience in the 33+ years that I've been going to Pattaya.
One night I decided to go the disco route and see what I could pick up for 1000 baht at the "I" Bar. I met this girl and we hit it off quite well. I was buying the drinks and shots of course. Some light kissing, touching, and squeezing; I liked her. Turns out she worked at the Honey Bar on Walking Street and she wanted to stop there to introduce me to her friends. We had a drink, shared some street food, and we played well together. I really liked Miss Jekyll.
After we arrived at the Penthouse and was riding the elevator to the top floor, she had some questions."What kind of hotel is this?" "Why you stay this hotel?" and so forth. Got in the room and she started exploring the sex swing, dance floor & pole, and the jacuzzi. Then more questions were asked."What kind of loom is this?" "Why you stay in this loom?" I explained that the room was made for fucking and not questions. She got naked as I lit up the jacuzzi, but had a different look on her face. I told her if this all confused her, she would be better off leaving right now.
Hello, Miss Hyde! She said she wanted money for her time, so I threw her a couple hundred baht and told her to get the fuck out. Nope, she threw the 200 on the floor and she demanded 1000, even though money was never discussed. I told her that she was lucky enough to get what I gave her and to move on. Nope, she walked over and picked up both of my phones and acted like she was going to destroy them, and my laptop was next to her as well. I figured be the time I got to the hotel phone to call security, the damage would be already done. I threw 1000 at her, called her a bunch of fucking names, and got her out of the room as fast as I could. I really didn't like Miss Hyde!
I attached a picture so you can stay clear of her in the future!Ok, she is in the jacuzzi naked and wants 1k? Did you negotiate to bang her for that? She looks pretty hot and worth a 1k shag to me. Maybe I will try and find her on my next trip.
JimmyBates
12-30-11, 22:54
Ok, she is in the jacuzzi naked and wants 1k? Did you negotiate to bang her for that? She looks pretty hot and worth a 1k shag to me. Maybe I will try and find her on my next trip.This is my 1st post, but been avid reader for a long time.
Mr Luvpuss;
I note your frequent posts for the last 50 pages or so, both here and in BKK thread.
Most of your posts are commentary on OTHER peoples contributions, offering either ridicule or belittlement. People don't enjoy this. They only appreciate original useful reports. You contributed none.
Your entries to me, and to many others, no doubt, are extremely irritating. Don't you think that this forum is not really suited for you. You may wish to find an alternative site that suit your attitude.
Are you from India?
I would have to agree about Soi 6. It seems like the quality is much lower than you see in pics on here. However, due to my liking of older ladies I was able to get a very kind and sexy long legged 30yo girl. Upstairs in Halifax she was extremely GF and asked me to go play snooker with her at Willys Hangout. Then the next day I made arrangements for a morning shag with her. Over she came and once again very good. We decided to head over to her bar via a nice massage at some place on 2nd road. Whilst there she found out she won 15000 baht on the lottery. Well! She paid for my drinks all night and insisted on coming LT with me. Up to you rates.
This is the kinda girl that makes the hobby so enjoyable. I would take one like her over a 19 year old grumpy / up herself ***** anyday.
Speaking of which. And no she's not that sort. I went to Sapphire agogo and BFed a 19 year old with really nice bolt on tits. Her name is Ique. She has really short hair which she cut herself (looks great). For me she broke the stereotype above. Let me have a really good go in many positions. The only letdown was a lack of English on her part but you could easily say its equally my fault. I speak no Thai at all. Got her number. No pics though!
I do have a good pic or two of the older one above. Just don't have the heart to put it on the forums. PM me and I will send it.
4 More days in Pattaya to go. Loving every second!
Edited to add this about Windmill...I love the place. How cant you? Naked chicks doing all kindsa wild shit. Blew a couple of thousand baht on drinks there with a mate. Very memorable indeed.
Hatguy
This is my 1st post, but been avid reader for a long time.
Mr Luvpuss;
I note your frequent posts for the last 50 pages or so, both here and in BKK thread.
Most of your posts are commentary on OTHER peoples contributions, offering either ridicule or belittlement. People don't enjoy this. They only appreciate original useful reports. You contributed none.
Your entries to me, and to many others, no doubt, are extremely irritating. Don't you think that this forum is not really suited for you. You may wish to find an alternative site that suit your attitude.
Are you from India?Get a life loser. You are a joke racist. If you don't like it, then don't read it, Mr. 1 post.
Frankfurter
12-31-11, 06:02
Since there's been a string of posts recently complaining how better things were at other times, here is my contribution:
Last night I went to the BB on 2nd Road only to find the place a pale shade of its former self. No girls dancing, behind me BGs arguing with a customer, the place almost empty. One beauty with a tag saying: 'Pancake', 'Pole Dancer' came by my table and I asked her why don't you dance? She only shrugged and went away. Does anybody has intel on this?
The BB was for at least some six years my favored bar. Man, what memories I have of the super nice parties they used to have. Maybe I picked the wrong evening but I decided to spend New Year's somewhere else.
This is my 1st post, but been avid reader for a long time.
Mr Luvpuss;
I note your frequent posts for the last 50 pages or so, both here and in BKK thread.
Most of your posts are commentary on OTHER peoples contributions, offering either ridicule or belittlement. People don't enjoy this. They only appreciate original useful reports. You contributed none.
Your entries to me, and to many others, no doubt, are extremely irritating. Don't you think that this forum is not really suited for you. You may wish to find an alternative site that suit your attitude.
Are you from India?Ditto! Number of posts don't mean a damn thing. But quality does!
HotShaneHot
01-01-12, 07:28
My Pattaya friend and freeby.
From a date site
Jimmy Red Cab
01-01-12, 16:49
Since there's been a string of posts recently complaining how better things were at other times, here is my contribution:
Last night I went to the BB on 2nd Road only to find the place a pale shade of its former self.Never rated the place myself, by the way I think Buffalo Bar is actually on Third Road.
Since I visited Pattaya for the first time I want to give a short report, since nothing totally new to report.
To my suprise the whole place seems to be a major Russian tourist destination.
Propaply as a result of that prices in the clubs are at the same level as in any other big city in asia (Shanghai, Hong kong etc)
I was there with a friend and did way too much partying to focus on the mongering aspect. Still a blast but not in a sexual way.
What I did try was Devils den. The manager told only threesoms. Ok, with me. The line up was not that good compared to my usual playgrounds (Hongkong, Macau, Shanghai).
But to cuties were among them. In the room I was a little disapointed. For a place that specialises in threesoms it was not really worth it. The girls did as asked but nothing more.
I also visited the body amssage places Honey and the onse up at SOI 2, Swati something. There is 3 very close together. I went to all three. The girls were also not very good looking but
Very good at the body massage part and soso in bed. All compaint about my size and none did a BBBJ.
I went only to 2 gogos. Moon and Happy.
I came to moon at 3 am and had a lot of fun with 3 girls dancing kissis and feeling each other up but the one I asked to go home with me told me she can't. Well the drinks cost me 2000 but I had a lot of fun for about 3 hours and went.
Home at 6.
I wasnt before the 5th day before me and my friend bf a gril from a gogo. This time in happy we enjoyed the show and took some girls at round 2. We took them to I somnia first and danced till about 4 then home.
I had a nice girl but neither a GFE nor PSE.
Next day was more or less the same only that we went to candyshop, I cafe, I somina and then to a thai KTV somewhere in the middle of the city that we left at around 7 am.
We only had sex for about 2 hours before I had to start packing at about 10 we took a taxi to the airport.
My summary:
- The average girls in the bars and gogos are well average in looks, no where near the average of sauna girls in Shanghai and Macau.
- service wise they are obidient but nowhere near the GFE that I got for example from a philipine girl on my 3 days in Macau after my Thailand trip.
- The Russian tourists are mostly hotter then the thai girls.
- the masiv quanity of girls still gives you a good chance of finding something you like
- to my suprise it seems a lot of guys can't tell the difference between a ladyboy and a girl I was still in a bar with a restaurant linked to it watch 2 indian guys negotiating with a LB.
For about 30 minutes, until 2 other indian guys sitting in the restaurant called the guys over and told them that they were talking to a LB. Totaly suprised the guys went back to the LB.
And asked them something and left totaly stunned, funny as hell if you just still on walking street seee these kinf of things.
- Pattaya is a party city, I never went to bed before 5 am, maybe that affected my view on the mongering scene since I simply had not enough time or was too drunk.
But for me the final result still stands. For stunner I prefere Macao saunas, for GFE Hong Kong or Macau Bars and discos.
(to be continued in the Macao section)
My Pattaya friend and freeby.
From a date siteNot bad. A little heavy, but I would do her.
Went to windmill last night. The place is just a cracker for me. Out of all the places I went to this was by far the best. I have the girls two drinks each and they both started heavy touching and more. One even looked at me with mischievous smile and wanted to blow me at the table!
Seriosly guys! Buy them a drink it really opens them up. I got to go! One is waiting in my bed. LOL
Since I visited Pattaya for the first time I want to give a short report, since nothing totally new to report.
To my suprise the whole place seems to be a major Russian tourist destination.
Propaply as a result of that prices in the clubs are at the same level as in any other big city in asia (Shanghai, Hong kong etc)
I was there with a friend and did way too much partying to focus on the mongering aspect. Still a blast but not in a sexual way.
What I did try was Devils den. The manager told only threesoms. Ok, with me. The line up was not that good compared to my usual playgrounds (Hongkong, Macau, Shanghai).
But to cuties were among them. In the room I was a little disapointed. For a place that specialises in threesoms it was not really worth it. The girls did as asked but nothing more.
I also visited the body amssage places Honey and the onse up at SOI 2, Swati something. There is 3 very close together. I went to all three. The girls were also not very good looking but
Very good at the body massage part and soso in bed. All compaint about my size and none did a BBBJ.
I went only to 2 gogos. Moon and Happy.
I came to moon at 3 am and had a lot of fun with 3 girls dancing kissis and feeling each other up but the one I asked to go home with me told me she can't. Well the drinks cost me 2000 but I had a lot of fun for about 3 hours and went.
Home at 6.
I wasnt before the 5th day before me and my friend bf a gril from a gogo. This time in happy we enjoyed the show and took some girls at round 2. We took them to I somnia first and danced till about 4 then home.
I had a nice girl but neither a GFE nor PSE.
Next day was more or less the same only that we went to candyshop, I cafe, I somina and then to a thai KTV somewhere in the middle of the city that we left at around 7 am.
We only had sex for about 2 hours before I had to start packing at about 10 we took a taxi to the airport.
My summary:
- The average girls in the bars and gogos are well average in looks, no where near the average of sauna girls in Shanghai and Macau.
- service wise they are obidient but nowhere near the GFE that I got for example from a philipine girl on my 3 days in Macau after my Thailand trip.
- The Russian tourists are mostly hotter then the thai girls.
- the masiv quanity of girls still gives you a good chance of finding something you like
- to my suprise it seems a lot of guys can't tell the difference between a ladyboy and a girl I was still in a bar with a restaurant linked to it watch 2 indian guys negotiating with a LB.
For about 30 minutes, until 2 other indian guys sitting in the restaurant called the guys over and told them that they were talking to a LB. Totaly suprised the guys went back to the LB.
And asked them something and left totaly stunned, funny as hell if you just still on walking street seee these kinf of things.
- Pattaya is a party city, I never went to bed before 5 am, maybe that affected my view on the mongering scene since I simply had not enough time or was too drunk.
But for me the final result still stands. For stunner I prefere Macao saunas, for GFE Hong Kong or Macau Bars and discos.
(to be continued in the Macao section) Hey man, you are right. Go to HK and Mac. For a true mongering experience.
BigClive225
01-02-12, 10:32
Just to add my personal experience to the recent posts regarding problems with Thai girls. I've been coming to Pattaya for a few years and never had any problems until last week when I picked up a girl on the beach close to the Royal Garden Plaza. She spoke very good English and was very friendly and touchy. We agreed a price of 1, 500 Baht for long time. She came back to my hotel and her mood seemed to change as soon as we entered reception who asked for her I'd card. She didn't have it and they had a heated exchange in Thai. At the end of it the hotel Manager said he would let her up to my room as long I guaranteed her. At this point she got all touchy again and I assumed everything would be OK. In my room her mood changed again and the first thing she said was pay me now. I told her I would pay later in the way I always do. No, no, no she said. I didn't like her attitude and told her she'the better leave. You pay me now or I not leave. I offered her 200 Baht as I thought that should be OK for walking me to my hotel. She picked up a glass and threw it at my head. Luckily I ducked and the glass smashed into the wall causing no damage. I grabbed the room phone and called Reception to send Security to my room. I had to restrain her whilst I did this. After the call she broke free and started throwing things at me. She also pushed the television of its stand where it crashed to the floor. Security arrived and took her out of my room and downstairs where she broke free and ran away. This shook me up. The police came and took a report but they didn't seem to think they could find the girl. I decided to check out and head for Bangkok. The hotel charged me for a new TV and a few other damages.
Fun And Sun
01-02-12, 18:47
Speaking of security issues, on two occasions the phone did not ring in my room after pleasurable sessions. When I went to the lobby some hours later my "friend" at reception said "Why you not answer your phone after lady go?"
Hmmm. Maybe I was drugged or dead. Why you not come find out? The wire in the bottom of the phone was not fully engaged.One girl had promised to say with me for LT, but at around 5AM her phone starts ringing and she throws a fit and decides that she has to leave but will come back in one hour. I told her that was fine and when she is back in one hour she can sleep in my room, and after our morning session when we wake up she can collect her money for LT. She wants payment now, to which I respond that she hasn't been with me for very long and we have only done it once so that is ST and not LT. After a bit or arguing she is so rushed that she agrees, and leaves with the ST money.
Being a bit drunk, and also irritated since she was a stunner and I wanted to do her some more and also take some pictures of her I decided to mess with her a bit more, so when reception calls my room I walk out on the balcony and stay there. Phone keeps ringing and I ignore it. After about five minutes there is a knock on my door and it is hotel security checking that I am ok, he calls downstairs and they release the girl. I go back to my balcony and watch her leave and jump in the car that is waiting for her, smile at her and wave "good bye". She gives me the finger, I just give her a big smile back. And surprise surprise, she did not return to finish of the LT session.
Mr Enternational
01-02-12, 20:03
Just to add my personal experience to the recent posts regarding problems with Thai girls. I've been coming to Pattaya for a few years and never had any problems until last week when I picked up a girl on the beach close to the Royal Garden Plaza. She spoke very good English and was very friendly and touchy. We agreed a price of 1, 500 Baht for long time. She came back to my hotel and her mood seemed to change as soon as we entered reception who asked for her I'd card. She didn't have it and they had a heated exchange in Thai. At the end of it the hotel Manager said he would let her up to my room as long I guaranteed her. At this point she got all touchy again and I assumed everything would be OK. In my room her mood changed again and the first thing she said was pay me now. I told her I would pay later in the way I always do. No, no, no she said. I didn't like her attitude and told her she'the better leave. You pay me now or I not leave. I offered her 200 Baht as I thought that should be OK for walking me to my hotel. She picked up a glass and threw it at my head. Luckily I ducked and the glass smashed into the wall causing no damage. I grabbed the room phone and called Reception to send Security to my room. I had to restrain her whilst I did this. After the call she broke free and started throwing things at me. She also pushed the television of its stand where it crashed to the floor. Security arrived and took her out of my room and downstairs where she broke free and ran away. This shook me up. The police came and took a report but they didn't seem to think they could find the girl. I decided to check out and head for Bangkok. The hotel charged me for a new TV and a few other damages.After a few trips you are supposed to be a veteran man.
Mistake 1:1500 LT? FL is 1000 LT (less if you can manage it).
Mistake 2: You wanted to take a BR girl for LT. BR girls are for ST and to be consumed at the ST hotel.
Mistake 3: You put your dick / wallet on the line by guaranteeing a hooker who you didn't know from Adam and have now become a statistic of why that should never be done.
Mistake 4: You offered her 200 baht. I don't care if she walked from Chiang Mai; if we didn't fuck she is not getting money. She knew from the beginning that she did not have ID. But now you know to make sure the girl has ID before you go on any long walks with her.
Mistake 5: After she threw the first glass you should have picked her up and put her on the other side of the door then called the front desk.
You must have been thinking with your dick on this one. Then too hindsight is 20/20. They called the police over this incident. Does that mean we will see you on Pattaya Daily News? LOL.
Mistake 5: After she threw the first glass you should have picked her up and put her on the other side of the door then called the front desk.I think your assessment is basiclly sound, except for #5. No way should he forcefully lay hands on a crazy ho under those circumstances if he values his own life. He should have left the room himself and gone for security. She would then probably follow him out the door rather than wait for security to come for her.
Punter 127
01-03-12, 04:37
All the vender booths are gone from Beach road now, but yesterday in the afternoon the number and quality of ladies was low. Hopefully things will improve now.
BigClive225
01-03-12, 04:46
After a few trips you are supposed to be a veteran man.
Mistake 1:1500 LT? FL is 1000 LT (less if you can manage it).
Mistake 2: You wanted to take a BR girl for LT. BR girls are for ST and to be consumed at the ST hotel.
Mistake 3: You put your dick / wallet on the line by guaranteeing a hooker who you didn't know from Adam and have now become a statistic of why that should never be done.
Mistake 4: You offered her 200 baht. I don't care if she walked from Chiang Mai; if we didn't fuck she is not getting money. She knew from the beginning that she did not have I'd. But now you know to make sure the girl has I'd before you go on any long walks with her.
Mistake 5: After she threw the first glass you should have picked her up and put her on the other side of the door then called the front desk.
You must have been thinking with your dick on this one. Then too hindsight is 20/20. They called the police over this incident. Does that mean we will see you on Pattaya Daily News? LOL.So I let my guard down Mr. E and made mistakes. Unfortunately I don't have a military background and let my dick rule my wallet. But isn't this what most people do in Pattaya? Isn't this why most people come to Pattaya? Or is Pattaya now a battleground where people should come with a battle plan instead of an enjoyment plan?
I don't mind paying the girls and I never try to squeeze the price down. Normally I pay bar fines and I can't remember having any problems with any girls I've taken from any bars.
My step by step plan is now.
Step 1. Enjoy myself.
Step 2. Pay the bar fine.
Step 3. Fuck the girl.
Step 4. Pay the girl.
The girls have changed and I wonder if this is this down to the different breed of tourists coming here now not willing to pay for the services the girls provide?
20/20 hindsight. The media were not involved but I'm beginning to think they should have a 24/7 channel set up just to show reports like this with you as the presenter pointing out the farang mistakes and how you the expert would deal with them (LOL).
After a few trips you are supposed to be a veteran man.So another farang takes a hit and you have offered some sound advice. But maybe you learnt the tricks for survival in Brazil and now you're here possibly priced out of the Brazilian market. Quite a few have and me as well but what works for you doesn't work for others. You sound like a street wise, fit, young guy and you should be making this clear in your posts as what works for you will not work for everybody. Apples for Apples. Not everybody coming to Pattaya is street wise, fit and especially young. Take a 70 year old guy being attacked by one of these beach road girls. If you want to flirt with danger then never pay a bar fine. If you want some protection then pay the bar fine.
All the vender booths are gone from Beach road now, but yesterday in the afternoon the number and quality of ladies was low. Hopefully things will improve now.Don't hold your breath Punter 127. The offerings were dire all of last year and I can't see it changing this year. You might find a diamond in the rough but it could take a very long time. They are just not here anymore.
All the vender booths are gone from Beach road now, but yesterday in the afternoon the number and quality of ladies was low. Hopefully things will improve now.Good news and I hope you are right. Will be there on the 26th and Beach Road is my happy hunting ground.
So I let my guard down Mr. E and made mistakes. Unfortunately I don't have a military background and let my dick rule my wallet. But isn't this what most people do in Pattaya? Isn't this why most people come to Pattaya? Or is Pattaya now a battleground where people should come with a battle plan instead of an enjoyment plan?
I don't mind paying the girls and I never try to squeeze the price down. Normally I pay bar fines and I can't remember having any problems with any girls I've taken from any bars.
My step by step plan is now.
Step 1. Enjoy myself.
Step 2. Pay the bar fine.
Step 3. Fuck the girl.
Step 4. Pay the girl.
The girls have changed and I wonder if this is this down to the different breed of tourists coming here now not willing to pay for the services the girls provide?
20/20 hindsight. The media were not involved but I'm beginning to think they should have a 24/7 channel set up just to show reports like this with you as the presenter pointing out the farang mistakes and how you the expert would deal with them (LOL).I agree with most of what you are saying about having a good time. But, I do think a smart monger should have some sort of a battle plan when entering Pattaya. If not, you can find yourself, broke, robbed, the victim of theft, beat up, ripped off, getting an STD, etc. If you have some sort of plan, not too overly strict, you can have a safe, financially responsible awesome time.
BigClive225
01-03-12, 15:04
I agree with most of what you are saying about having a good time. But, I do think a smart monger should have some sort of a battle plan when entering Pattaya. If not, you can find yourself, broke, robbed, the victim of theft, beat up, ripped off, getting an STD, etc. If you have some sort of plan, not too overly strict, you can have a safe, financially responsible awesome time.Battle Plan equals Pay the Bar Fine. I'm still pissed about buying a new TV that I will never watch.
Sexual Healing
01-03-12, 16:24
Hi guys!
Can you explain me why euro / bath exchance is so bad this year?
41 compared to 48 in 2011. This is going to be a rip-off!
Anybody who's into this can forecast wheter is it getting better or worse by the end of the month?
(I am supposed to land on 25th Jan).
Thanks
It's bad because of the banking crisis in Europe. The Euro had a terrible year against all currencies, last year. It is 30 baht to a US$ now, and was 40 baht to a US$ when I was there last (6 years ago).
No one can predict what it will do by the end of the month. That is a skill that would be worth millions$.
Hi guys!
Can you explain me why euro / bath exchance is so bad this year?
41 compared to 48 in 2011. This is going to be a rip-off!
Anybody who's into this can forecast wheter is it getting better or worse by the end of the month?
(I am supposed to land on 25th Jan).
Thanks
Fast Eddie 48
01-03-12, 21:19
It's bad because of the banking crisis in Europe. The Euro had a terrible year against all currencies, last year. It is 30 baht to a US$ now, and was 40 baht to a US$ when I was there last (6 years ago).
No one can predict what it will do by the end of the month. That is a skill that would be worth millions$.To Horatio,
My first trip to BBK is 1995 the USD rate is one to 28 bht but every thing is so much cheaper then 1200 bht for nice hotel a night in Bangkok 500 bht in the flipper lodge
In Pattaya and you can get st in Bangkok for 400 bht and all nighter in Pattaya for 500 bht at the disco.
Fast Eddie 48
Mr Enternational
01-03-12, 23:02
So I let my guard down Mr. E and made mistakes. Unfortunately I don't have a military background and let my dick rule my wallet. But isn't this what most people do in Pattaya? Isn't this why most people come to Pattaya? Or is Pattaya now a battleground where people should come with a battle plan instead of an enjoyment plan?It's all about experiences. You will look back on it a couple of years from now and start laughing and say that was some crazy shit that happened. I know I have done that plenty of times.
Mr Enternational
01-03-12, 23:28
So another farang takes a hit and you have offered some sound advice. But maybe you learnt the tricks for survival in Brazil and now you're here possibly priced out of the Brazilian market. Quite a few have and me as well but what works for you doesn't work for others. You sound like a street wise, fit, young guy and you should be making this clear in your posts as what works for you will not work for everybody. Apples for Apples. Not everybody coming to Pattaya is street wise, fit and especially young. Take a 70 year old guy being attacked by one of these beach road girls. If you want to flirt with danger then never pay a bar fine. If you want some protection then pay the bar fine.Exactly Sangkid. There are many roads that lead to Rome. What works for one or is most efficient for one may not be the same for another. In the end the big picture is supposed to be getting some pussy. But how you do that is no one size fits all. Thank goodness we have many readily available options. I grew up in Atlanta and was DJing at the strip club and pimping when I was 17, so gogo bars are really boring to me. I don't drink much so the bars are out. Besides, I have a pretty big selection of alcohol in my room for those occasions when I want a drink or when females come over and want a drink. (Funny thing: I can count on one hand how many times women in Pattaya have come over and have actually wanted a drink. I guess they are more club drinkers and not real drinkers. The most common thing the pros say is that they have to drink to go with a man otherwise they could never do it. After the first time I never see them drink around me.) Even if I do go to a bar for a few minutes and see a girl (or mamasan) I like I can always convince her to call or come after work, so I have never paid a bar fine. But I'm 39 and pretty much a disco FL and non-pro guy. BTW, I moved from Rio to Pattaya. My rent in Rio had more than doubled on exchange rate alone (from $500 to over $1000) and FL pussy more than quadrupled going from anywhere between $25 and $75 to $100 basement bottom minimum. And when that happens it is time to get the fuck away. I pay $150 in Pattaya and if this place ever goes under I guess I will (try to) settle down.
Don't hold your breath Punter 127. The offerings were dire all of last year and I can't see it changing this year. You might find a diamond in the rough but it could take a very long time. They are just not here anymore.Where have they gone? Pattaya Beer Garden in the day? Walking Street at night?
Punter 127
01-04-12, 01:45
Where have they gone? Pattaya Beer Garden in the day? Walking Street at night?Another perhaps more important question is why have they gone? I was here in April and October and this is by far the worst I've seen.
After a few trips you are supposed to be a veteran man.
Mistake 1:1500 LT? FL is 1000 LT (less if you can manage it).
Mistake 2: You wanted to take a BR girl for LT. BR girls are for ST and to be consumed at the ST hotel.
Mistake 3: You put your dick / wallet on the line by guaranteeing a hooker who you didn't know from Adam and have now become a statistic of why that should never be done.
Mistake 4: You offered her 200 baht. I don't care if she walked from Chiang Mai; if we didn't fuck she is not getting money. She knew from the beginning that she did not have I'd. But now you know to make sure the girl has I'd before you go on any long walks with her.
Mistake 5: After she threw the first glass you should have picked her up and put her on the other side of the door then called the front desk.
You must have been thinking with your dick on this one. Then too hindsight is 20/20. They called the police over this incident. Does that mean we will see you on Pattaya Daily News? LOL.As they say, time is money. I had a situation my last trip in September with having a girl sit with me for quite a bit of time drinking and generally having a good time. Of course it didn't help that I'd had her ST the night before. I didn't think anything of it, but when I went to leave alone, she created enough of a scene that I chose to pay her to STF up, LOL. A man's got to do what a man's got to do. Actually my
preference is to sit and have drinks with a girl to feel her out before taking the plunge. I would never just pick one from the street.
But that's just me.
I also noticed the crowd on WS was much different my last time down. Many more Indian (Pakistanies, Indians, etc) nationalities were in groups trying to negotiate the girls down. Come to learn from one of the bar girls that they don't really like going with those folks and will ask a higher price. Plus I'm sure the girls weren't comfortable with one guy negotiating and three or four others looking at her like it was their last fuck before they go to the land of virgins. As an white American, I had no problems getting the quality of girl I wanted at normal prices noted in other posts.
. My rent in Rio had more than doubled on exchange rate alone (from $500 to over $1000) and FL pussy more than quadrupled going from anywhere between $25 and $75 to $100 basement bottom minimum. And when that happens it is time to get the fuck away. I pay $150 in Pattaya and if this place ever goes under I guess I will (try to) settle down.You pay $ 150 for a monthly rent in Pattaya? That's a very good deal!
The BB was for at least some six years my favored bar. Man, what memories I have of the super nice parties they used to have. Maybe I picked the wrong evening but I decided to spend New Year's somewhere else.I had a chance to cut my teeth in Pattaya in the mid 80s through 90s. Some of my best times there.
A year ago was my last time there and I had a hard time finding anything on BR I liked.
I hadn't done many High Seasons and maybe that was part of it. Bars were filled but it was mostly tourists.
Still had a few gems but many times I saw something looking good / fresh wasn't a real woman. Hehheh.
Punter 127
01-04-12, 12:15
I normally go for spinners so this girl is a little bigger than I like, but she seems like a nice girl. And those boobs are wet, for you guys who like that kind of thing, she's 'Got Milk'.
Naked Gunz
01-04-12, 12:25
Can someone recommend a good Pattaya private investigator? Need some info and I'm away now.
LittleBigMan
01-04-12, 12:59
Can someone recommend a good Pattaya private investigator? Need some info and I'm away now.LBM Private Eye at your service? $$$
Can someone recommend a good Pattaya private investigator? Need some info and I'm away now.Is it about a girl?
Naked Gunz
01-05-12, 05:46
Is it about a girl?PM me if your serious, or anyone that can help me out.
PM me if your serious, or anyone that can help me out.A PM was sent to you.
El Cubanito
01-05-12, 14:02
Can someone recommend a good Pattaya private investigator? Need some info and I'm away now.Dude, if it about a girl and you have some reservation than save yourself the money and move on.
Dear members
I am visiting Pattaya from 29 jan to 5feb 2012
Kindly tell me whether lk empress is gf.
And also you opinon about sea me springs on soi 10 [with open sewage repair work going on ]
Thanking you all for wonderfull reports
Yours manliraj
Dude, if it about a girl and you have some reservation than save yourself the money and move on.Same with most things in life. If you have to ask the question then you already know the answer.
Dear members
I am visiting Pattaya from 29 jan to 5feb 2012
Kindly tell me whether lk empress is gf.
And also you opinon about sea me springs on soi 10 [with open sewage repair work going on ]
Thanking you all for wonderfull reports
Yours manlirajI have stayed at just about all the LK hotels and they have all been GF. Just email them to try and confirm.
Sea Me Springs is GF and has good reviews. Here is one:http://www.pattaya-addicts.com/forum/topic/70513-seame-spring-hotel/
Pattaya trip late 2011 / early 2012.
I spent about a week in Pattaya over the new years and just after Christmas. Nothing really new here except maybe a few tips.
Firstly I would recommend Mr Keaks taxi as the guy was courteous and quick. Down from the airport in about 1hr. Stayed at the Queen Vic on soi 6 the first night. Pretty good place over all. Their food was good. Went back a few times for that alone. After my night there with my more regular girl we went to the Jasmine Hotel. This place is good as its right there on the walking street yet quiet enough. Of course there are exceptions like new years eve where people run amok. Guilty as charged myself.
After banging my regular chick a few times and paying for all her food etc I wanted to get on with my goal. Including her there were the following. One girl from a beer bar next to the beer garden. Older but very personable and sexy arse. I'd rate her a 7 out of 10. Then I went down soi 6 and had the girl I reported on before. VERY satisfying sessions followed the next day and I went drinking with her a few times. I went to the sabai dee at about noon and saw that they had some good looking girls. I would put the pics up here but I don't want to get her in trouble. They arent supposed to do pics there. Mine was great though after I made her cum.
This brings me to my first pointer. Make the girls cum anyway you can. The service improves 10 fold once you do this in my opinion. All of the girls I went with responded to it immediately. Got some requests for another go from THEM!
Then there came the Windmill girl. Sweetest little thing I have met in the hobby. Gave her more than she asked for due to this and her lovely body and attitude. For the life of me I can't remember her name though. Ahrg! Took her to the bar under Tattoo for a beer on the way home. The band there were pretty awesome. Don't know how many times I have heard Master of Puppets played live but it is not many. We slept in then had a go in the morning. No comments on overpaying please. It wasnt that much of a tip anyway.
Windmill is awesome. I would go there again in a blink of an eye. Read the forum and took the advice. Tip or lady drink them. You get the attention of the girls and they come over and play! YEAH!
For all you OZ and KIWIs out there. Get ya arse to Roo bar and hang out with the boys and girls. Great bar. All types come in. And the best part is the location. Right there on walking street. Watch the world go by. I know I did. Ladyboys a plenty trying to pick up all sorts. I was never approached by any ladyboy. In fact it only just happened at my next destination Phnom Penh. I thought it would there if anywhere.
I went down to Devils den. Of course it was open. The guys there were very accommodating and explained everything in native English. The staff behind the bar there were very cute and kind as well. I chose Eve and Cake. Quite a satisfying session. Cake is up for anything. Eve was pretty good too.
Hatguy
I just tried to access their site and only got a blank page with only their logo and line of text that says "The Devil's Den is Under New Management".
I have stayed at just about all the LK hotels and they have all been GF. Just email them to try and confirm.
Sea Me Springs is GF and has good reviews. Here is.
one:http://www.pattaya-addicts.com/forum/topic/70513-seame-spring-hotel/Dear mr luvpuss
Thank you
I recieved prompt reply from lk empresss maanger hotel is gf.
My second question was I have read in lot of Pattaya reports that soi 10 is literally torn apart and difficult move around. Hence
The query should I opt for lk mpress or sea me springs
My new question is should I book around soi lk metro area or on beach road
Thanks a lot friends
I just tried to access their site and only got a blank page with only their logo and line of text that says "The Devil's Den is Under New Management".They have a new website:
http://www.devilsdenthailand.com/
You are welcome.
I willbe in BKK for couple of days and was wondering if it is worthwhile to go to Pattaya as a day trip. Might hire a taxi for the trip so do you think it may be worthwhile or going to be utter frustration on the toll highway?
Sexual Healing
01-06-12, 19:31
Pattaya trip late 2011 / early 2012.
I went to the sabai dee at about noon and saw that they had some good looking girls. I would put the pics up here but I don't want to get her in trouble. They arent supposed to do pics there. Mine was great though after I made her cum.
HatguyCan you recap how much is it for a soapie in there? And what you get for what you pay?
Thanks.
Also, name or number of the girl, if you remember.
Yesterday I found myself cruising down Soi Buakhow on my bike with nothing much to do when I decided to have a massage. I turned down Soi Honey Inn and was hailed by a bunch of rather plain looking older girls in front of a little hole in the wall massage shop called "Up to You."
The girl I chose and the oil massage she gave were unremarkable so I won't go much into the details, but after a shower and mediocre rub down concentrated mostly on my legs and between the buttocks and scrotum areas, she offered everything from HJ to FS. She quoted 800 for BBBJ but happily agreed to 500 plus 200 for the shop. Then at my direction she stripped naked and performed a mechanical BBBJ, no CIM, while I played with her tits and ass.
Upon my returning home after a few minutes, I noticed that my pinky ring was missing and a sick feeling of loss went through me. It's a gold ring set with 5 quarter carat diamonds that used to be a wedding band. I had it sized for my little finger and think of it my "freedom ring." It's probably worth about $1, 500 USD.
All kinds of terrible thoughts were whizzing through my brain as I raced from Jomtien the 10 kilometers or so back to the shop on my bike. Did that girl take the ring off my slippery finger while I was distracted? I resolved to find it and if not to go to the police.
I pulled up in front of the shop and eight or nine girls were sitting out front, including my girl. I was rather surprised to see her, since if she stole my ring, I would not expect her to stick around to wait until I came back for it.
Very calmly but assertively, I pointed to my little finger and asked if she had found my ring. She looked at me with confusion on her face and mumbled something like 'I dunno, ' so I declared for all the girls to hear in a non-accusatory manner that I would give 1000 baht to anyone who could find it.
After saying this about 3 or 4 times, one of the other girls suddenly stood up and produced the ring saying that she found it in the shower. It must have slipped off my finger during my shower. What a relief! I put it back on my finger, took out my wallet and handed the girl 1000 baht. After that there were smiles and laughter all around and I told the girls how happy I was, etc., to have it back.
Bottom line: Honesty can be purchased from massage girls in Pattaya for 1000 baht.
Wolvenvacht
01-07-12, 09:04
I willbe in BKK for couple of days and was wondering if it is worthwhile to go to Pattaya as a day trip. Might hire a taxi for the trip so do you think it may be worthwhile or going to be utter frustration on the toll highway?Count on at least 2 hours one way and 1000 baht (more time and money if you are in the center of BKK; sometimes it takes an hour or more just to get out of BKK). Unless you have been to Pattaya before, it will take you some time to get your bearings and find some nice companion (assuming that is what you are looking for).
All in all, I do not think it is worthwhile. The quality of the girls is good, but so it is in BKK. You might find it cheaper in Pattaya than in BKK, but when you add the travel time and cost, it would be a close call.
Don't misunderstand me, I think Pattaya is a nice area for mongering but I think it is too much stress to come all the way from BKK just for one day. The fun of Pattaya is that you can walk around at your leisure, sample all those beauties available for sale almost everywhere in town, then after a day of "stalking & hunting" choose one and take her to your place for some nice horizontal gymnastics LT. No stress, just good times!
Can you recap how much is it for a soapie in there? And what you get for what you pay?
Thanks.
Also, name or number of the girl, if you remember.Sorry I don't remember her name. She was one of the few that started at about noon. There werent many. I think the price was 1800. We started in the shower / bath. Then onto the soapy thing on the air mattress. Then it was in the bed for some foreplay followed by a single go. She was one of those girls that reciprocates twice as much if you make her cum. LOL
I willbe in BKK for couple of days and was wondering if it is worthwhile to go to Pattaya as a day trip. Might hire a taxi for the trip so do you think it may be worthwhile or going to be utter frustration on the toll highway?Leave early and get back late.
Frustration on the tollway? Why? It is a modern 3-4 lane highway.
dear mr luvpuss
thank you
i recieved prompt reply from lk empresss maanger hotel is gf.
my second question was i have read in lot of pattaya reports that soi 10 is literally torn apart and difficult move around. hence
the query should i opt for lk mpress or sea me springs
my new question is should i book around soi lk metro area or on beach road
thanks a lot friendsyour second question is just a personal choice. lk metro area does have many bars, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s and devil's den very close by. i usually stay at the lk renaissance. it is modern and nice. or the areca lodge is decent and cheaper. it is about a 10 min. walk to beach road. from there.
if you stay on beach road, you will have a few more amenties closer and obviously close to the br freelancers. it will generally be busier with more tourists.
your second question is just a personal choice. lk metro area does have many bars, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s and devil's den very close by. i usually stay at the lk renaissance. it is modern and nice. or the areca lodge is decent and cheaper. it is about a 10 min. walk to beach road. from there.
if you stay on beach road, you will have a few more amenties closer and obviously close to the br freelancers. it will generally be busier with more tourists.dear sir,
thank you again for kind information.
Wolvenvacht.
Thanks a lot for the detailed reply. I guess you right about staying over and enjoying it rather than just have a look at it.
Count on at least 2 hours one way and 1000 baht (more time and money if you are in the center of BKK; sometimes it takes an hour or more just to get out of BKK). Unless you have been to Pattaya before, it will take you some time to get your bearings and find some nice companion (assuming that is what you are looking for).
All in all, I do not think it is worthwhile. The quality of the girls is good, but so it is in BKK. You might find it cheaper in Pattaya than in BKK, but when you add the travel time and cost, it would be a close call.
Don't misunderstand me, I think Pattaya is a nice area for mongering but I think it is too much stress to come all the way from BKK just for one day. The fun of Pattaya is that you can walk around at your leisure, sample all those beauties available for sale almost everywhere in town, then after a day of "stalking & hunting" choose one and take her to your place for some nice horizontal gymnastics LT. No stress, just good times!
GregLondon
01-07-12, 22:48
I willbe in BKK for couple of days and was wondering if it is worthwhile to go to Pattaya as a day trip. Might hire a taxi for the trip so do you think it may be worthwhile or going to be utter frustration on the toll highway?If its just girls / sex you may as well stay in BKK, the costs are a bit higher but you don't waste time and money on the transport. If you have been to BKK many times and just want to scope out Pattaya in case of a future visit then why not as long as you are not penny pinching re taxi fares etc.
LittleBigMan
01-08-12, 03:42
Daddy07,
When reading your story I though you were going to say you lost the ring when you were playing with her Ass. And when you came back and didn't get a answer you were going to get her a Heimlich ass go around?
Yeh, I seen that ring before it's not your everyday ring that the King where's from Burger King! That's the ring the King from Jomtien wears gold band with diamonds!
LBM
Sexual Healing
01-08-12, 12:12
I think the price was 1800. We started in the shower / bath. Then onto the soapy thing on the air mattress. Then it was in the bed for some foreplay followed by a single go.Ok, thanks.
If not you, can anyone reading be more specific about service?
Within given time, are you allowed to have a multiple-shots? I want to know if you cum early then it's just massage or girls are hot for another ride.
Also, does girl allow you some hardcore stuff, like cim or anything?
Last year I visited Sabai and it was my 2nd trip to Pattaya, as I am a regular reader of ISG and I know their price very well (They charge 1800B for fish bowl Girls and 2500B for side liner) when I asked one attendant from fish bowl area he said 2500B so I left the area for side liner and the attendant there quote 2500 B for side liner, when I asked him how much the price of fish bowl girls, he said 1800 B, I left the place for Honey Massage Parlour as I also found there reports are coming very good and every body suggesting them so to try I visit and found them very friendly and professional and the place is best If you want to go for a soapie, even there fishbowl girls are better then side liner of Sabai. Honey rooms are big, new and neat and clean. Girls are very friendly the one I tried was a CA student from BKK & came only on Friday and Saturday to earn some good money. ALso the price is same as sabai only difference is that all the girl are inside with red and blue no. Token (Red for 1800B and blue for 2500B)
Can you recap how much is it for a soapie in there? And what you get for what you pay?
Thanks.
Also, name or number of the girl, if you remember.
your opinion about sea me spring on soi 10? [with open sewage repair work going on.]the construction on soi 10 is very close to the sea me spring hotel. as of december 2011 it was a giant hole in the ground as wide as the street and about 100 meters long. it looks like they are installing storm sewers. probably a necessity in a place subject to monsoons, but for the time being a real pain in the neck. i stayed at the page 10 hotel just up the street. they started work every day about 0800 and there were using two pieces of heavy equipment, a giant excavator and a smaller front-end loader / backhoe. in addition to digging one big-assed hole in the ground, they were also driving pilings and pouring concrete. so it's a big, noisy job that starts early in the morning. you can work your way around it on foot, but you've got to walk over giant piles of dirt. and if you ask me it's only a matter of time before some drunk falls into the pit.
in the evening there is lots of noise coming from the beer bar complex on the south side of soi 10, just west of second road. there are two bands, one specializing in thai music, and the other rock-and-roll. the thai band sets their sound system waaaay too loud, especially considering they seldom play to more than 50 people. the rock-and-roll band then tries to keep up. it's a real "battle of the bands," and it goes on until 0300.
i recently stayed at the page 10 hotel, which is on the north side of the street, in a room facing south. they have installed double sliding glass doors and heavy drapes to cut down on the noise. but it's still aggravating. the sea me spring is on the south side of soi 10, but farther west toward the ocean. so it's not as close to the battling bands as the page 10. but it's closer to the construction site. right smack in the middle of it, actually.
seems to me that with the construction ongoing you might be able to score a deal at the sea me spring. i would recommend one of the "sea deluxe" rooms. they are the nicest of the rooms they offer. more importantly, they are located at the western end of the building, facing the water. if you were to book one on the top floor you'd probably not be bothered by the music. but you'd still hear the construction.
bunky
i will be in bkk for couple of days and was wondering if it is worthwhile to go to pattaya as a day trip. might hire a taxi for the trip so do you think it may be worthwhile or going to be utter frustration on the toll highway?it can be done, but it's going to be a challenge.
even the fastest taxi ride in the world will take at least 90 minutes each way and set you back 1000 to 1100 baht. so that's three hours and 2000 baht right off the bat. with 2000 baht you are well on your way to a very nice session in bangkok with the hottest girl from baccara or one of the teen hotties at nataree.
the daytime scene in pattaya is rather limited. yes, you can find a girl to go with you. but it's a resort town where people stay out late. the go go clubs and beer bars don't really get started until eight or nine in the evening. the discos on walking street don't get going until after midnite. so your return to bangkok would be in the wee hours and it could be a challenge to find a taxi. your best bet there would be to pay the same driver who brought you down to wait for you to finish. but that adds cost. or you could dismiss that driver and then make arrangements at one of the numerous cab stands all over pattaya for a taxi at a time certain. but how do you know when you'll be finished? finding the girl of your dreams is an uncertain undertaking sometimes.
there is also the problem of where to take care of business. if you pull a girl from a go go or a beer bar you'll need a short time hotel. there are plenty around. but it's going to add another 300 baht to your cost, and they can be rather sad little places.
earlier in the day soi 6 is an option. by one or two in the afternoon there is a decent selection of girls. about sundown the soi is packed with girls. moreover, most of the soi 6 bars have rooms on-premises. so if you want to get laid earlier in the day it's ideal in terms of selection and a place to do the deed. but soi 6 isn't for everybody. some punters find the in-your-face vibe offputting. as they say on the boards, ymmv. on the other hand, i've never had any trouble finding two or three hotties i'd love to bang. and the point-and-shoot setup on soi 6 is perfect for somebody who's just down to pattaya for the day.
i suppose you could troll beach road for a freelancer earlier in the day as well. but the quality of those girls is definitely hit or miss.
if it was me, i'd stay in bangkok and use the money and time saved to check out the fresh firm talent at nana plaza, which right now is abundant.
but if you've got your heart set on pattaya for a day, i'd recommend:
leave bkk at noon and head straight for soi 6.
walk up and down exactly twice, then pick the hottest girl you can find from the bevy of beauties sitting out in front of the bars.
step inside her bar and spend 300 baht on a couple of drinks. for the next 20 minutes let her "convince" you to go upstairs.
"bar fine!" drop 300 baht for the bar fine.
head upstairs to one of the short time rooms. take a quick shower and drop your first load.
pay the girl 700 baht.
time to recharge. doing what? up. to. you. if you're flush, take the baht bus to walking street and have a bite at one of the fancy seafood restaurants. if you're prefer to spend your dough on dames, dine at the pattaya beer garden. and there's always the street food on soi 14 and soi 15.
ready for a second pop? you can always head back to soi 6. you wouldn't be the first guy to bang two girls in a matter of hours. or you could let one of the blow job masters at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s "take care."
by this time i reckon it's a little after dark. get a taxi back to bangkok, and during the ride try to squeeze in a combat nap.
still up for action? you'll be back in the big mango in plenty of time to find a girl who is hot enough to earn your third load of the day.
no power? hit the rack early. the girls will still be there tomorrow.
worth the effort? depends on your personality and stamina. if you're a young, high speed, low drag, kind of punter it could be fun. but it's definitely a lot of effort and expense for a few hours in pattaya. if you're older and less inclined toward this type of manic peripatetic holiday, i'd skip the trip.
fyi, i can heartily recommend this taxi service:
http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/
the boss, khun keak, runs a tight ship and booking by e-mail is a cinch. his drivers are good and their cars are well maintained.
bunky
Ok, thanks.
If not you, can anyone reading be more specific about service?
Within given time, are you allowed to have a multiple-shots? I want to know if you cum early then it's just massage or girls are hot for another ride.
Also, does girl allow you some hardcore stuff, like cim or anything?I did ask for another go but she said it was a one shot kinda thing. Though I did cum on her tits if I recall correctly.
There was way too many girls in patts to choose from and I didn't get down there as much as I wanted to. Next time maybe.
The construction on Soi 10 is VERY close to the Sea Me Spring Hotel. As of December 2011 it was a giant hole in the ground as wide as the street and about 100 meters long. It looks like they are installing storm sewers. Probably a necessity in a place subject to monsoons, but for the time being a real pain in the neck. I stayed at the Page 10 Hotel just up the street. They started work every day about 0800 and there were using two pieces of heavy equipment, a giant excavator and a smaller front-end loader / backhoe. In addition to digging one big-assed hole in the ground, they were also driving pilings and pouring concrete. So it's a big, noisy job that starts early in the morning. You can work your way around it on foot, but you've got to walk over giant piles of dirt. And if you ask me it's only a matter of time before some drunk falls into the pit.
Seems to me that with the construction ongoing you might be able to score a deal at the Sea Me Spring. I would recommend one of the "Sea Deluxe" rooms. They are the nicest of the rooms they offer. More importantly, they are located at the western end of the building, facing the water. If you were to book one on the top floor you'd probably not be bothered by the music. But you'd still hear the construction.
BunkyThanks for the update. I recently booked Sea Me but not until April, so hoping the construction will be done by then. Or at least moved along the Soi.
Sound like a royal pain in the ass. Imagine if it was still raining! A real mess!
Cheers.
I have been to Pattaya three times, but decades ago. We'll plan to be there in November to see some sun, sand and sin. What is the best place in the daytime to find a 30s lady for mutual admiration? With hosting capability.
Hi,
I'll be in Pat beginning of next month. I want to check out and report on a number of BlowJobBars.
I know of.
PumpStation.
Lollitas.
Please share name and address of other BJBars in Pattaya. PM or quotes.
Cheers
Bliss Lounge is good. With BJ bars, you compromise looks for technique.
Punter 127
01-09-12, 09:41
Hi,
I'll be in Pat beginning of next month. I want to check out and report on a number of BlowJobBars.
I know of.
PumpStation.
Lollitas.
Please share name and address of other BJBars in Pattaya. PM or quotes.
CheersTry Bliss on 3rd road.
Sexual Healing
01-09-12, 15:00
.the place is best If you want to go for a soapie, even there fishbowl girls are better then side liner of Sabai. Honey rooms are big, new and neat and clean.Thanks Hatguy.
And many thanks Roger92.
Just one thing missing: is HONEY easy to find? Can you write me the address, please?
greglondon,
thanks a lot for splitting the choice in straight forward two options. i ammuch more clwar now as to why i should scope out pattaya if i want to.
if its just girls / sex you may as well stay in bkk, the costs are a bit higher but you don't waste time and money on the transport. if you have been to bkk many times and just want to scope out pattaya in case of a future visit then why not as long as you are not penny pinching re taxi fares etc.bunky.
without a doubt, yours is the best reply i have seen on this board after a long long time. thank you so much for the detailed information about taxis, cost and local scene in pattaya. if i domanage to get bored in bkk, i will try to head to pattaya for evening fun at soi6 and wontplan to be back till past midnight.
hats off to you for the outstanding report.
it can be done, but it's going to be a challenge.
even the fastest taxi ride in the world will take at least 90 minutes each way and set you back 1000 to 1100 baht. so that's three hours and 2000 baht right off the bat. with 2000 baht you are well on your way to a very nice session in bangkok with the hottest girl from baccara or one of the teen hotties at nataree.
the daytime scene in pattaya is rather limited. yes, you can find a girl to go with you. but it's a resort town where people stay out late. the go go clubs and beer bars don't really get started until eight or nine in the evening. the discos on walking street don't get going until after midnite. so your return to bangkok would be in the wee hours and it could be a challenge to find a taxi. your best bet there would be to pay the same driver who brought you down to wait for you to finish. but that adds cost. or you could dismiss that driver and then make arrangements at one of the numerous cab stands all over pattaya for a taxi at a time certain. but how do you know when you'll be finished? finding the girl of your dreams is an uncertain undertaking sometimes.
there is also the problem of where to take care of business. if you pull a girl from a go go or a beer bar you'll need a short time hotel. there are plenty around. but it's going to add another 300 baht to your cost, and they can be rather sad little places.
earlier in the day soi 6 is an option. by one or two in the afternoon there is a decent selection of girls. about sundown the soi is packed with girls. moreover, most of the soi 6 bars have rooms on-premises. so if you want to get laid earlier in the day it's ideal in terms of selection and a place to do the deed. but soi 6 isn't for everybody. some punters find the in-your-face vibe offputting. as they say on the boards, ymmv. on the other hand, i've never had any trouble finding two or three hotties i'd love to bang. and the point-and-shoot setup on soi 6 is perfect for somebody who's just down to pattaya for the day.
i suppose you could troll beach road for a freelancer earlier in the day as well. but the quality of those girls is definitely hit or miss.
if it was me, i'd stay in bangkok and use the money and time saved to check out the fresh firm talent at nana plaza, which right now is abundant.
but if you've got your heart set on pattaya for a day, i'd recommend:
leave bkk at noon and head straight for soi 6.
walk up and down exactly twice, then pick the hottest girl you can find from the bevy of beauties sitting out in front of the bars.
step inside her bar and spend 300 baht on a couple of drinks. for the next 20 minutes let her "convince" you to go upstairs.
"bar fine!" drop 300 baht for the bar fine.
head upstairs to one of the short time rooms. take a quick shower and drop your first load.
pay the girl 700 baht.
time to recharge. doing what? up. to. you. if you're flush, take the baht bus to walking street and have a bite at one of the fancy seafood restaurants. if you're prefer to spend your dough on dames, dine at the pattaya beer garden. and there's always the street food on soi 14 and soi 15.
ready for a second pop? you can always head back to soi 6. you wouldn't be the first guy to bang two girls in a matter of hours. or you could let one of the blow job masters at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s "take care."
by this time i reckon it's a little after dark. get a taxi back to bangkok, and during the ride try to squeeze in a combat nap.
still up for action? you'll be back in the big mango in plenty of time to find a girl who is hot enough to earn your third load of the day.
no power? hit the rack early. the girls will still be there tomorrow.
worth the effort? depends on your personality and stamina. if you're a young, high speed, low drag, kind of punter it could be fun. but it's definitely a lot of effort and expense for a few hours in pattaya. if you're older and less inclined toward this type of manic peripatetic holiday, i'd skip the trip.
fyi, i can heartily recommend this taxi service:
http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/
the boss, khun keak, runs a tight ship and booking by e-mail is a cinch. his drivers are good and their cars are well maintained.
bunky
I just tried to access their site and only got a blank page with only their logo and line of text that says "The Devil's Den is Under New Management".I was there after the new management took over. Should have saved my money for a gogo.
Wolvenvacht
01-09-12, 19:38
I have been to Pattaya three times, but decades ago. We'll plan to be there in November to see some sun, sand and sin. What is the best place in the daytime to find a 30s lady for mutual admiration? With hosting capability.Soi 6, no doubt about that. Most of the bars there have their own in-house short-time rooms. As from the early afternoon, literally hundreds of ladies are standing in front of their bars, trying to lure (or sometimes even, pull) you in.
BeaverHunter
01-10-12, 00:05
Hi,
I'll be in Pat beginning of next month. I want to check out and report on a number of BlowJobBars.
I know of.
PumpStation.
Lollitas.
Please share name and address of other BJBars in Pattaya. PM or quotes.
CheersA second that for The Bliss Lounge on 3rd road. No stunners though. Ask for Ann. Highly reccomended.
Thanks Hatguy.
Just one thing missing: is HONEY easy to find? Can you write me the address, please?Believe he is refferring to honey massage, soi honey (where else )?
On second Road, one block north of soi diana, turn right.
About 60m up, on your left hand side
Punter 127
01-10-12, 01:42
Believe he is refferring to honey massage, soi honey (where else )?
On second Road, one block north of soi diana, turn right.
About 60m up, on your left hand sideIsn't Honey massage on soi 11?
http://www.honeyinnpattaya.com/map.htm
Took a taxi from BKK and paid 1500B. I read somewhere else that the price is 1200 but that is what I was quoted by several drivers and it seemed OK based on the distance (compared to say the fare from the airport to downtown BKK).
Stayed at the Marriott on Beach Road, which is within walking distance of walking street, get out by the Beach Road exit, make a left and walk 10 minutes you are there. As reported you can also sit at the back of a little truck, pay 20B and get there faster, or even hop on a scooter as I once did at 9AM with my new GF in tow.
There are so many good reports about Pattaya, not much to add about the bars, other than I found the most beautiful girls to be at Baccara (also the case in BKK) , liked the cool white atmosphere of What's Up, the intimate fingering at Babydolls (at the same time I would not pick up this beautiful girl wrapped around my medius only because I was thinking of how many others may have been in the same spot that night) , I liked the fact that I-bar and Insomina are open all night, but disliked the competition with younger tatooed guys wearing muscle shirts, not that the girls would care one way or the other but I do. And yes, you blink you lose. From what I saw, the girls don't approach the guys, it is always the other way around.
Ended up at JP's bar at 9AM and was surprised to see very pretty girls there (some of them I had seen at Insomnia a few hours before). I took one of them and she was so amazing. He name was Poom, very slender, no baby, short dark hair girl. She started doing sexy dances and rubbing, quoted 1500B ST and 2K LT. Once in the room I was impressed because immediately after the first round she started rubbing against me, DFK, and doing just about everything to get me hard again, then she put her ass up and said something that must have been the Thai equivalent of F* me. Wow. She was just insatiable, I did not expect that and it was very ego pleasing even though I was physically exhausted.
The next day I picked up #56 at Baccara, Leek, at 4AM because I did not want to go through the disco experience 2 nights in a row. Very nice girl though she complained a lot that I was "too big" (not that I am but she had a Japanese boyfriend before and said she had not had sex for 4 months). True or not it all went in thanks to KY, nice lady for ST, pretty tattoos on her back and long legs make for a nice artistic view from behind.
Overall I thought Pattaya was a Thai version of Angeles City, with differences of course the main ones being the ladies themselves. I liked it, did not feel particularly unsafe at any time (but stayed between the Marriott and Walking street, did not go elsewhere) , the girls I met were nice and I will return if I have a chance, not that it is better than BKK but maybe a bit cheaper and mostly a different setting and so much choice. And I don't know why there are so many Russians but darn, their girlfriends are HOT!
BeaverHunter
01-10-12, 17:10
Isn't Honey massage on soi 11?
http://www.honeyinnpattaya.com/map.htmThe problem with honey massage is they don't do BBBJ only CBJ. And they expect a tip on top of what I think I remember was 1800 baht per session. Rather hit Teen Dream Message where you pay about the same for similar service. Just my 2 baht if that much.
Took a taxi from BKK and paid 1500B. I read somewhere else that the price is 1200 but that is what I was quoted by several drivers and it seemed OK based on the distance (compared to say the fare from the airport to downtown BKK).
Stayed at the Marriott on Beach Road, which is within walking distance of walking street, get out by the Beach Road exit, make a left and walk 10 minutes you are there. As reported you can also sit at the back of a little truck, pay 20B and get there faster, or even hop on a scooter as I once did at 9AM with my new GF in tow.
There are so many good reports about Pattaya, not much to add about the bars, other than I found the most beautiful girls to be at Baccara (also the case in BKK) , liked the cool white atmosphere of What's Up, the intimate fingering at Babydolls (at the same time I would not pick up this beautiful girl wrapped around my medius only because I was thinking of how many others may have been in the same spot that night) , I liked the fact that I-bar and Insomina are open all night, but disliked the competition with younger tatooed guys wearing muscle shirts, not that the girls would care one way or the other but I do. And yes, you blink you lose. From what I saw, the girls don't approach the guys, it is always the other way around.
Ended up at JP's bar at 9AM and was surprised to see very pretty girls there (some of them I had seen at Insomnia a few hours before). I took one of them and she was so amazing. He name was Poom, very slender, no baby, short dark hair girl. She started doing sexy dances and rubbing, quoted 1500B ST and 2K LT. Once in the room I was impressed because immediately after the first round she started rubbing against me, DFK, and doing just about everything to get me hard again, then she put her ass up and said something that must have been the Thai equivalent of F* me. Wow. She was just insatiable, I did not expect that and it was very ego pleasing even though I was physically exhausted.
The next day I picked up #56 at Baccara, Leek, at 4AM because I did not want to go through the disco experience 2 nights in a row. Very nice girl though she complained a lot that I was "too big" (not that I am but she had a Japanese boyfriend before and said she had not had sex for 4 months). True or not it all went in thanks to KY, nice lady for ST, pretty tattoos on her back and long legs make for a nice artistic view from behind.
Overall I thought Pattaya was a Thai version of Angeles City, with differences of course the main ones being the ladies themselves. I liked it, did not feel particularly unsafe at any time (but stayed between the Marriott and Walking street, did not go elsewhere) , the girls I met were nice and I will return if I have a chance, not that it is better than BKK but maybe a bit cheaper and mostly a different setting and so much choice. And I don't know why there are so many Russians but darn, their girlfriends are HOT!thanks for your report!
Good to know they are still some pretty girls availanle at 9am in JP bar.
BTW, bahtbus is 10 baht and can you still talking about LT when you pick-up a girl at 9am. .
Cheer's
Mr Enternational
01-10-12, 21:19
Took a taxi from BKK and paid 1500B. I read somewhere else that the price is 1200 but that is what I was quoted by several drivers and it seemed OK based on the distance (compared to say the fare from the airport to downtown BKK).
Stayed at the Marriott on Beach Road, which is within walking distance of walking street, get out by the Beach Road exit, make a left and walk 10 minutes you are there. As reported you can also sit at the back of a little truck, pay 20B and get there faster, or even hop on a scooter as I once did at 9AM with my new GF in tow.
Ended up at JP's bar at 9AM and was surprised to see very pretty girls there (some of them I had seen at Insomnia a few hours before). I took one of them and she was so amazing. He name was Poom, very slender, no baby, short dark hair girl. She started doing sexy dances and rubbing, quoted 1500B ST and 2K LT.As Marteau said the baht bus is 10 baht. Likewise the taxi should have been 1000 baht to Pattaya and 860 back to the airport (when you get a quote don't just accept it, counter it; 860 is the conventional rate from Pats to the airport as can be seen at the many taxi booths around the city). As far as the girl. 1500 ST for a girl you met at a bar?
Sexual Healing
01-10-12, 22:49
She started doing sexy dances and rubbing, quoted 1500B ST and 2K LT. Once in the room I was impressed because immediately after the first round she started rubbing against me, DFK, and doing just about everything to get me hard again, then she put her ass up and said something that must have been the Thai equivalent of F* me. Wow. She was just insatiable, I did not expect that and it was very ego pleasing even though I was physically exhausted.I don't know if Mr E. Reference below matches with what I am mumbling myself, but it looks like you overpaid it.
Of course, a performance like you described may be priceless in a way, but according to last year pussy-market it is supposed to be still 500 bath ST. 1000 bath LT.
Hopefully.
Also, a little non-sense the 500 baht gap between ST and LT.
Really hope this is not the standard for 2012 and that you found a smart-ass (beware!) or, along with the current worst possible change with euros, my holiday is about to costs me twice!
Sexual Healing
01-10-12, 22:52
The problem with honey massage is they don't do BBBJ only CBJ. And they expect a tip on top of what I think I remember was 1800 baht per session.Blasphemy! Guys, do you confirm non BBBJ at Honey Massage?
Teen Dream Message? Never heard about it. Again, address and map, please.
When I was in Pattaya, I was taking a baht bus back to the hotel with a bar girl. She asked for 40 baht to pay the driver. I spent about a month there paying 20 baht a ride before I learned different.
thanks for your report!
BTW, bahtbus is 10 baht and can you still talking about LT when you pick-up a girl at 9am. .
Cheer's
. . for Mahal who probably overpaid. He has more than 200 previous posts, so he knew. Or should have known the prevailing price level. Instead, he allowed himself to be talked into paying ridiculous prices. So what? . He is happy and had one hell of a time. If he couldn't afford it, he would have bargained.
For him it was worth it. Food for thought, Cheap Charlies.
Teen Dream Message? Never heard about it. Again, address and map, please.Http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/home.html
LittleBigMan
01-11-12, 07:09
When I was in Pattaya, I was taking a baht bus back to the hotel with a bar girl. She asked for 40 baht to pay the driver. I spent about a month there paying 20 baht a ride before I learned different.In general and sterotype! When a girl or person does that it is a clear indication of what to expect in the future?
LBM
I was in Pattaya a few years ago and would like to find this place I went to. It was in South Pattaya, maybe on or near Walking street, but am not sure. It was a big place, kind of like a disco but no flashing lights, so not really a disco. More like a big bar. I think it had live music. There were a lot of freelancers, maybe even some non-pros, but not sure about that. The girls there did not work for the place. They came on their own. I think there was also a bar area near the entrance and to the right where you can sit down at the bar. There were also a lot of tables. I think the place was on the corner on the left as I was walking south. Can anyone tell me the name of the bar and street name or address so I can find it? I really liked the atmosphere of the place. You can dance and feel like you're on a real date. Hope this place is still around.
Am trying to find this bar in north Pattaya I went to a few years ago. Hope it is still around. It was not very big. At the time it seemed to be one of the better places for daytime action. Had a few good looking babes. Most were in the bar but some sat outside.
Coming from the beach, walking inland a couple of blocks on I think it was Soi 4, but could be Soi 3 or 5. Walk down the street and it is on the left. This bar was daytime only for girls. Not nites. It is next to a motel. The motel was to the left as you enter the bar. I think the girls there were independents. You take them to the motel next door. Can anyone tell me the name of the bar, the street or any famous hotels next to it so I can find it?
There are so many good reports about Pattaya, not much to add about the bars, other than I found the most beautiful girls to be at Baccara (also the case in BKK) , liked the cool white atmosphere of What's Up, the intimate fingering at Babydolls (at the same time I would not pick up this beautiful girl wrapped around my medius only because I was thinking of how many others may have been in the same spot that night) , I liked the fact that I-bar and Insomina are open all night, but disliked the competition with younger tatooed guys wearing muscle shirts, not that the girls would care one way or the other but I do. And yes, you blink you lose. From what I saw, the girls don't approach the guys, it is always the other way around.
!What is a general idea of what the girls at Baccara and other go-go bars charge for short time? And how much is all night? Do many of the go go girls do all night? How much is the bar fine at these places?
(I know this question has probably been answered already, but I looked through a few posts and didn't see).
I was in Pattaya a few years ago and would like to find this place I went to. It was in South Pattaya, maybe on or near Walking street, but am not sure. It was a big place, kind of like a disco but no flashing lights, so not really a disco. More like a big bar. I think it had live music. There were a lot of freelancers, maybe even some non-pros, but not sure about that. The girls there did not work for the place. They came on their own. I think there was also a bar area near the entrance and to the right where you can sit down at the bar. There were also a lot of tables. I think the place was on the corner on the left as I was walking south. Can anyone tell me the name of the bar and street name or address so I can find it? I really liked the atmosphere of the place. You can dance and feel like you're on a real date. Hope this place is still around.Sounds like Bamboo Bar. Very popular hang out with older farangs. Was there with a 45 year old friend last week and he was the youngest farang there (apart from me). Older Thai girls as well who have been around a bit. Before you enter the Walking Street turn left. It's just a few shop fronts away and you can't miss it.
Darn, you got scammed by your BG. She paid the driver 20bt and pocked the other 20bt. Amazing Thailand. My 1st time on the baht bus I paid close attention to what the locals paid. Trust no one is my motto.
When I was in Pattaya, I was taking a baht bus back to the hotel with a bar girl. She asked for 40 baht to pay the driver. I spent about a month there paying 20 baht a ride before I learned different.
Sexual Healing
01-11-12, 11:12
Http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/home.htmlThanks a lot Run Mann.
Looks like there are fine girls at affordable prices.
Still, I don't get if prices listed include sex or are meant just for room and massage and you are supposed to bargain "s*ck & f*ck as" extras.
Sexual Healing
01-11-12, 11:22
Http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/home.htmlAnd website doesn't mention soapy massage at all.
Darn, you got scammed by your BG. She paid the driver 20bt and pocked the other 20bt. Amazing Thailand. My 1st time on the baht bus I paid close attention to what the locals paid. Trust no one is my motto.Baht bus is 10 Baht per person. Even if I go from the center all the way to jomtien beach, I never paid more than 10.
What is a general idea of what the girls at Baccara and other go-go bars charge for short time? And how much is all night? Do many of the go go girls do all night? How much is the bar fine at these places?
(I know this question has probably been answered already, but I looked through a few posts and didn't see).Barfine in Baccara is 600. Girls normally ask for 2000 ST, 3000 LT in Baccara, but you can negotiate. If she likes you and / or you are a regular customer, you might pay less, or at least get two rounds doing ST. Many of the girls at Baccara don't do LT, they prefer coming back to the club and doing 2-3 ST per night, then go to sleep at their own place.
Baht bus is 10 Baht per person. Even if I go from the center all the way to jomtien beach, I never paid more than 10.When I come from Jomtien, normally would have to change to another songteaw at Pattaya South Road, as they mostly turn around there.
When I go to the bus station, one songteaw to the circle at the end of 2nd road, and from there another along Pattaya North Road to the station.
Always 10 baht per trip. (So 20 baht in total from Jomtien to Soi 7, for example, or 30 baht in total from Jomtien to the North Pattaya bus station.)
Please share name and address of other BJBars in Pattaya. PM or quotes.Also Golden Girls in soi 13/2, 650 baht.
When I come from Jomtien, normally would have to change to another songteaw at Pattaya South Road, as they mostly turn around there.
When I go to the bus station, one songteaw to the circle at the end of 2nd road, and from there another along Pattaya North Road to the station.
Always 10 baht per trip. (So 20 baht in total from Jomtien to Soi 7, for example, or 30 baht in total from Jomtien to the North Pattaya bus station.) If you have to change the bus, of course you pay 10 again. I normally take the bus at south Pattaya road which I consider being the center, as its just next to the entrance of walking street.
Punter 127
01-11-12, 12:49
The problem with honey massage is they don't do BBBJ only CBJ. And they expect a tip on top of what I think I remember was 1800 baht per session. Rather hit Teen Dream Message where you pay about the same for similar service. Just my 2 baht if that much.I think you are right, I didn't partake at Honey becasue they told me everything was covered. Also I think the price is just to high, but that's just me.
My friend you.
Soi 6 about third way down on left towards Beach road. I went in there at about 6pm a few weeks ago. Told the girl my friend was coming and they should wait. Bought two lady drinks and sat there for a few minutes with nice conversation. But when it became clear my mate was a bit late these two told me they were going to sit outside. OKAAAAY so I sat there at the bar alone being ignored until my friend arrived. Even then the girls stayed outside. It was like YOUR FRIEND AND YOU should leave because they were busy sitting outside.
Won't be back there. Too bad too. Good reviews here.
Red Point.
Really liked this place. Attentive girl that drank proper drink not cola. Even though she wasnt so good at English (and I speak bugger all Thai) she was up for fun. Too bad I was buggered after other places. My mate took one upstairs and had a blast.
Ill be back someday and Soi 6 is on my list. Hatguy
BeaverHunter
01-11-12, 15:34
I think you are right, I didn't partake at Honey becasue they told me everything was covered. Also I think the price is just to high, but that's just me.The massage at teen dream is about 400 baht depending on how long and what kind of massage. For BBBJ they will ask for 1000 baht and full service 1500 baht but you can negociate down.
Sounds like Welkom Inn. Soi 3, I like to eat breakfast there and watch the girls sey around getting ready for work. Try this
http://www.welkominnthailand.com/
Am trying to find this bar in north Pattaya I went to a few years ago. Hope it is still around. It was not very big. At the time it seemed to be one of the better places for daytime action. Had a few good looking babes. Most were in the bar but some sat outside.
Coming from the beach, walking inland a couple of blocks on I think it was Soi 4, but could be Soi 3 or 5. Walk down the street and it is on the left. This bar was daytime only for girls. Not nites. It is next to a motel. The motel was to the left as you enter the bar. I think the girls there were independents. You take them to the motel next door. Can anyone tell me the name of the bar, the street or any famous hotels next to it so I can find it?[/QUOTE]
Pattaya is changing and changing rapidly.
The north end of walking street. Circa Soi 16 has been decimated by the influx of Arabs and Russians. If you sit in the decent steak and seafood place on the corner of Soi 16 and watch the flow of people you see that nobody is with a girl anymore, it's simply a case of tourists coming to watch. When you do see the Russians / Arabs and Indians with a girl its in the coconut bar with 2+ guys haggling with one girl over the price.
I can only believe its a matter of time until X Zone closes down, as Club Boesche etc beneath it already have. As far as I know this will leave the number of old school gogo's at just Windmill (which was excellent when I was there 2 weeks ago). As a collective it would be great to see people supporting these institutions which used to make Pattaya so great.
Have to say I am no longer excited by Walking street at all (5+ years and 20 trips after first visit). Some gogo's are good, (Baccara and the big white one on the left past Angelwitch etc) all having great looking girls but the fun atmopshere has changed. {Special mention going to Secrets for having the best draft beer in Thailand and making an excellent and relaxing stop off before diving back in to the action}.
Would be great if some of the "mega" gogo's would re-locate to Soi Bukhao, Soi 7-8 etc where the beer bars and camarderie between the farangs / WG's was fantastic.
Went on to Bangkok after a week in Pattaya. Nana and Soi Cowboy packed beyond belief in all the decent gogo's. Pattaya still wins hands down as it has all the space that Bangkok doesn't. But it needs all the Farangs to stay together, drink beer, take the girls out of the bars and make it great like it always was.
Not back again till end of March.
Blasphemy! Guys, do you confirm non BBBJ at Honey Massage?
Teen Dream Message? Never heard about it. Again, address and map, please.Definitely covered in Honey. Still good though for something different.
Was in Pattaya for a few days the first part of December. Someone just mentioned Xzone and thought it might shut down. When I was ther rthey had a good quantity of guys and things were lively. Someday all will shut downbut I don't know about right away or in near future. We will see. The street had adwquate people but not as crowded as I think it should be. Many of the bars were not crowded at all. Many of the door people were very pushy tryiong to get peole to go in and have a seat. Didn't want you to look around at all. Just go in and buy a beer. Those I left immediately as I don't like the pushy attitude. Secrets looked nice and not pushy. Will return there. Enjoyed windmill and the manager seemed like a decent guy. The girls on walking street selling pussy were not a a plentiful ar I remember from before. Beach road was doing fine at 500 baht for ST.
Walked up to Soi Bukow and found Sugar Sugar. A girl says to me bar fine is 2000 on weekends. I said good luck and good bye. Was only checking it out so harm no foul. Baccara was good I thought.
Did see many Russians with wife or girl friend. Some from India and some Arabs. I do think the economy is showing, but Pattaya will be back. As far as other farlang being there, you have to expect it. It is not a secret and if you can afford it and are so inclined you are going to show up at some time or another.
Just a small trip report from my prospective
And website doesn't mention soapy massage at all.Dream Teen is located on Soi 21 off Soi Buakhao. (http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/contactus.html)
Dream Teen do not offer a typical soapy massage experience. You pay 400THB for an hour of thai massage (can be with oil or lotion) plus the infamous ball massage which is more or less a sensually slow handjob. The girl is usually clothed and will give you the upsell in the room which has a small shower and a nice firm bed. The standard sales pitch is 500THB for HJ. 1000THB for BJ and 1500THB for intercourse. If you can resist the power of the ball massage, you can get away with just paying the base price otherwise, you can negotiate the price of the extras.
IMHO Dream Teen offer a more private and comfortable experience than the numerous 200THB per hour massage places on Soi Honey and elsewhere. Some of these places offer extras as well but the action usually take place in a communal area with mats on the floor and separated only by curtains.
Going to Pattaya in March and my flight gets into BKK about midnight. Is there really any benefit to taxi in that late or should I find a cheap room near the airport and grab a taxi the next morning?
pattaya blow job bars.
in preparation for my pat trip i am collecting a list of bjb to visit and report on. current list is as follows but there must be more. please come with suggestions to add. pm or quote.
golden girls in soi 13/2, 650 baht.
pump station.
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bliss lounge
Markharding
01-12-12, 13:19
I have read pages and pages of posts on the Pattaya scene. I have never been there, I must admit. But I am shocked and horrified that all these guys posting, yet, no one seem to have scored, at least one single date, with a Russian tourist. Many guys speak of Pattaya being flooded with Russians, yet, it seems these guys lack the skills and know-how to date a NORMAL girl who is on holiday to have "fun". Just walk up to one of these girls and ask her out, instead of hitting Go-Go bars and paying money for dirty prostitutes, something you all know how to do (easy, huh?). I am disappointed at you,"men"!
Indians, Russians, Arabs. Blah blah. Don't take girls. Blah blah. Haggling on Beach Road. Blah blah.
Japanese, Koreans. Blah blah. Overspending. Blah blah. Take the best seats / girls. Blah blah.
Grow up!
I'm sure some Arabs, Russians, Japanese, Indians etc. Have their own broad stereotypes of 'farangs' which may have been conceived by personal experience or word of mouth.
I doubt many farangs on this forum would identify with those stereotypes, and may possibly consider themselves unfairly judged by them.
This pseudo-superiority complex is most unbecoming.
Wolvenvacht
01-12-12, 20:26
But I am shocked and horrified that all these guys posting, yet, no one seem to have scored, at least one single date, with a Russian tourist.Last time I was in Pattaya and Jomtien, I did not see one "single" Russian lady. They were all with their husbands or BFs or mothers or children, so not good targets. Especially if you consider that the husbands / BFs were built like wrestlers. And actually many of these women were also built like wrestlers. I'll trade all of your Russian ladies for one Thai girl and I think most of us who go to Pattaya will think the same.
HndsomeDude143
01-12-12, 21:15
Hi frnz!
Had been to Pattaya some 2 yrs back under a package tour. The agent attending helped me to a Russian show in north Pattaya near the big see mall. The show was awesum as the russians used to go nude and used to choose an audience among us to do some sleazy act to the extend of gettin the guy completely nude and bathing him with some naughty acts. Generally she used to pick audience from the first row. Now again I'm planning to visit Pattaya but this time on my own arrangement. Request frnz if someone can help me locate the place who has recently visited them. The russians are with big sized assets and in best shape. Its a place worth going. Looking for some positive responses.
Pagal Chacha
01-12-12, 21:42
Indians, Russians, Arabs. Blah blah. Don't take girls. Blah blah. Haggling on Beach Road. Blah blah.
Japanese, Koreans. Blah blah. Overspending. Blah blah. Take the best seats / girls. Blah blah.
Grow up!
I'm sure some Arabs, Russians, Japanese, Indians etc. Have their own broad stereotypes of 'farangs' which may have been conceived by personal experience or word of mouth.
I doubt many farangs on this forum would identify with those stereotypes, and may possibly consider themselves unfairly judged by them.
This pseudo-superiority complex is most unbecoming.You only got to walk on Beach Road to see those 'sterotypes'
Mr Enternational
01-12-12, 23:22
I have read pages and pages of posts on the Pattaya scene. I have never been there, I must admit. But I am shocked and horrified that all these guys posting, yet, no one seem to have scored, at least one single date, with a Russian tourist. Many guys speak of Pattaya being flooded with Russians, yet, it seems these guys lack the skills and know-how to date a NORMAL girl who is on holiday to have "fun". Just walk up to one of these girls and ask her out, instead of hitting Go-Go bars and paying money for dirty prostitutes, something you all know how to do (easy, huh?). I am disappointed at you,"men"!Better yet why don't we let you chat one of them up when or if you ever come to Pattaya. And we do expect a full report. Everything seems so much easier and doable from the Ivory Tower.
Punter 127
01-12-12, 23:23
Going to Pattaya in March and my flight gets into BKK about midnight. Is there really any benefit to taxi in that late or should I find a cheap room near the airport and grab a taxi the next morning?I would probably stay at an inexpensive hotel and take the Bell Travel bus the next morning, especially if it's a long flight. What you save by taking the bus would pay a large part of your room cost. I've used Bell Travel on several occasions and I find it to be reliable and inexpensive transportation. If you stay in their service area they will pick up at your hotel and you can schedule it online.
http://www.belltravelservice.com/index.php
Mr Enternational
01-12-12, 23:46
Better yet why don't we let you chat one of them up when or if you ever come to Pattaya. And we do expect a full report. Everything seems so much easier and doable from the Ivory Tower.Okay. So I spoke too fucking soon. A buddy of mine just posted a picture on facebook of them with some Russian girls on Koh Larn.
I have read pages and pages of posts on the Pattaya scene. I have never been there, I must admit. But I am shocked and horrified that all these guys posting, yet, no one seem to have scored, at least one single date, with a Russian tourist. Many guys speak of Pattaya being flooded with Russians, yet, it seems these guys lack the skills and know-how to date a NORMAL girl who is on holiday to have "fun". Just walk up to one of these girls and ask her out, instead of hitting Go-Go bars and paying money for dirty prostitutes, something you all know how to do (easy, huh?). I am disappointed at you,"men"!If I wanted to date a Russian girl, I would go to Russia. I won't. I want Thai instead so I go to BKK and Pattaya.
I would probably stay at an inexpensive hotel and take the Bell Travel bus the next morning, especially if it's a long flight. What you save by taking the bus would pay a large part of your room cost. I've used Bell Travel on several occasions and I find it to be reliable and inexpensive transportation. If you stay in their service area they will pick up at your hotel and you can schedule it online.
http://www.belltravelservice.com/index.phpI stayed at a place called Port 43 Residence near the airport before I left Thailand last week. Details below.
Port 43 Residence Suvarnabhumi Airport, *70/12 Moo 15, Soi Kingkaew 43, Kingkaew Road, Bangplee**70/12.
They had a special on booking. Com for 650 baht. Pretty basic but did the job and it was less than ten minutes to the airport. They tried to drop me off for free as well. Wouldn't have a bar of it. Paid the guy 200 baht as a tip.
If you stay there or close to there you can probably negotiate for a cheaper taxi to Pattaya than if you get one from airport. No guarantees though.
Last time I was in Pattaya and Jomtien, I did not see one "single" Russian lady. They were all with their husbands or BFs or mothers or children, so not good targets. Especially if you consider that the husbands / BFs were built like wrestlers. And actually many of these women were also built like wrestlers. I'll trade all of your Russian ladies for one Thai girl and I think most of us who go to Pattaya will think the same.Don't know how it is now but:
Last time I was in Pattaya was about 5 years ago. All the Russian women I saw were with guys. Maybe boyfriends or husbands. Not a good idea to try to pick them up. Most of them were attractive though.
I want to thank the posters who provided answers to my questions:
The Bamboo Bar in South Pattaya, Welkom Inn in North Pattaya, and the prices at Baccara.
I will be in Pattaya the first week in March and will buy you drinks if you are around. Just PM me.
By the way, I guess prices for ST and LT at other go go bars on Walking Street are probably the same as in Baccara: Asking (but negotiable) TB 2000 ST, TB 3000 LT? Yes, or is Baccara more expensive.
ShivaInForty
01-13-12, 10:50
I will be in Pattaya for a couple of days in middle of February. Can someone suggest a place for a Mature Russian and or Mature Thai. I am more interested in mature females and the small females are not my type. I find them hard. Anyone who can help will be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
You only got to walk on Beach Road to see those 'sterotypes'Having been to Pattaya on quite a few occasions (and also many other parts of the world) , I have seen the very worst of 'farang behaviour. I don't even need a passport to see this 'stereotype', just a walk through my own town centre.
However, there are far too many decent people to allow my judgement to be clouded by the idiots.
I certainly would not allow it to impinge upon my enjoyment whilst on holiday. It seems some people enjoy the self-imposed misery of finding something to moan about.
The moral compass of a sex tourist can be very inconsistent.
Gin And Tonic
01-13-12, 13:51
I want to thank the posters who provided answers to my questions:
The Bamboo Bar in South Pattaya, Welkom Inn in North Pattaya, and the prices at Baccara.
I will be in Pattaya the first week in March and will buy you drinks if you are around. Just PM me.
By the way, I guess prices for ST and LT at other go go bars on Walking Street are probably the same as in Baccara: Asking (but negotiable) TB 2000 ST, TB 3000 LT? Yes, or is Baccara more expensive.My sweetie@Baby Dolls Soi15 is 2, 000 longtime, other day stayed till 4pm
I have read pages and pages of posts on the Pattaya scene. I have never been there, I must admit. But I am shocked and horrified that all these guys posting, yet, no one seem to have scored, at least one single date, with a Russian tourist. Many guys speak of Pattaya being flooded with Russians, yet, it seems these guys lack the skills and know-how to date a NORMAL girl who is on holiday to have "fun". Just walk up to one of these girls and ask her out, instead of hitting Go-Go bars and paying money for dirty prostitutes, something you all know how to do (easy, huh?). I am disappointed at you,"men"!I've been going to Pattaya a few years now, and my pick up experience hasn't been so great with them.
When I tried talking to a stunner walking with her friends around 2nd road, she was very unresponsive. She told me in her broken english, she is not interested.
Then some other attempts in the Mixx disco, where they hang out a lot, but again, the same language barrier. I can't speak Russian, and they can't speak english.
But at least with the thai girls, money does all the talking.
Wolvenvacht
01-13-12, 20:30
(.) it was less than ten minutes to the airport. They tried to drop me off for free as well. Wouldn't have a bar of it. Paid the guy 200 baht as a tip.
If you stay there or close to there you can probably negotiate for a cheaper taxi to Pattaya than if you get one from airport. No guarantees though.If you you took a taxi and asked them to put on the meter, I doubt if you would have had to pay 100 baht. They must love you there!
Airport to Nana area is less than 300 baht on a metered taxi and this includes the tolls.
Pattaya is changing and changing rapidly.
The north end of walking street. Circa Soi 16 has been decimated by the influx of Arabs and Russians. If you sit in the decent steak and seafood place on the corner of Soi 16 and watch the flow of people you see that nobody is with a girl anymore, it's simply a case of tourists coming to watch. When you do see the Russians / Arabs and Indians with a girl its in the coconut bar with 2+ guys haggling with one girl over the price.
I can only believe its a matter of time until X Zone closes down, as Club Boesche etc beneath it already have. As far as I know this will leave the number of old school gogo's at just Windmill (which was excellent when I was there 2 weeks ago). As a collective it would be great to see people supporting these institutions which used to make Pattaya so great.
Have to say I am no longer excited by Walking street at all (5+ years and 20 trips after first visit). Some gogo's are good, (Baccara and the big white one on the left past Angelwitch etc) all having great looking girls but the fun atmopshere has changed. {Special mention going to Secrets for having the best draft beer in Thailand and making an excellent and relaxing stop off before diving back in to the action}.
Would be great if some of the "mega" gogo's would re-locate to Soi Bukhao, Soi 7-8 etc where the beer bars and camarderie between the farangs / WG's was fantastic.
Went on to Bangkok after a week in Pattaya. Nana and Soi Cowboy packed beyond belief in all the decent gogo's. Pattaya still wins hands down as it has all the space that Bangkok doesn't. But it needs all the Farangs to stay together, drink beer, take the girls out of the bars and make it great like it always was.
Not back again till end of March.For all of those who misunderstood me and thought I was being miserable.
The title "call for support" and talking about going as a collective was really to let people know to go and see and hopefully spend some money in "the old" Pattaya before it disappears for good. Or at least disappears totally from Walking Street. I'm still happy picking up girls in beer bars and the newer clean-cut gogo's. But I have to say the old school style gogo will be sadly missed for fun and banter early in the evening
Mr Enternational
01-14-12, 01:57
I will be in Pattaya for a couple of days in middle of February. Can someone suggest a place for a Mature Russian and or Mature Thai. I am more interested in mature females and the small females are not my type. I find them hard. Anyone who can help will be much appreciated.Just go to any massage parlor or any bar, or any other place for that matter. You can't miss them. (The Thais, not the Russians. See Butter's post below if you are inquiring about the Russians.)
For all of those who misunderstood me and thought I was being miserable.
The title "call for support" and talking about going as a collective was really to let people know to go and see and hopefully spend some money in "the old" Pattaya before it disappears for good. Or at least disappears totally from Walking Street. I'm still happy picking up girls in beer bars and the newer clean-cut gogo's. But I have to say the old school style gogo will be sadly missed for fun and banter early in the eveningTotally agree with you and I said basically the same thing for most of last year. Maybe my way of saying it upset a few people. The old Pattaya has disappeared. Most of the gorgeous girls who you could banter with and then who would sleep with you until gone noon the next day are virtually extinct. Replaced by a hard core of girls, most of who rate between 2 and 4 out of 10, who most people wouldn't want to sleep with. But the thing is these girls, who most Thai men would never even sleep with, are here. More are arriving and they are making money. The penny pinching farangs are paying these girls, driving the 7 to 9 bracket girls who they won't pay out of town. The younger guys now priced out of Brazil, who seem penny pinching as well, haven't helped the situation. Pattaya is now full of penny pinching farangs and the party, as some of us knew it, is over.
What is the best place in the daytime to find a 30s lady for mutual admiration? With hosting capability.Soi 6 gets going about one or two in the afternoon. By three or four all hands are on deck. Many of the bars have short time rooms on the premises. You'll pay 300 to the bar for the room and 700 to the girl. The room won't be fancy. And on Soi 6 you're generally done after you pop. Another alternative is to pick up a girl on Beach Road and head for a short time hotel. If you find a girl you fancy, she'll be able to direct you to a nearby short time hotel. Again, you'll pay about 300 baht for the hotel. The girl will run 500 to 1000, depending on her looks and how hard you haggle.
Bunky
I would probably stay at an inexpensive hotel and take the Bell Travel bus the next morning, especially if it's a long flight. What you save by taking the bus would pay a large part of your room cost. I've used Bell Travel on several occasions and I find it to be reliable and inexpensive transportation. If you stay in their service area they will pick up at your hotel and you can schedule it online.This is certainly a good plan. But when I land at BKK I'm always keyed up, excited to begin my holiday. So even though it's been a 25 hour trip I'm not inclined to stop moving. My practice is to book a taxi from Khun Keak at Pattaya Taxi and head for Pattaya. At that hour there's no traffic and the trip only takes about 90 minutes. As a rule of thumb, unless there are long lines at immigration, baggage delays or lots of traffic figure three to three-and-a-half hours from landing to check in at your Pattaya hotel going down there by pre-arranged taxi.
In my case, I add my arrival day to my Pattaya hotel reservation. Yes, I pay for an "extra" day that starts about 12 hours before I check in. But that usually costs me less than any place I'd stay in Bangkok, and I like being able to check in immediately upon arrival.
This gives me options. If I'm still wired and ready to party, the Walking Street discos are at full song at 4:00 a.m, and it's a simple matter to find somebody for a quick shag. If the long trip has taken it's toll and I'm finally ready to fall asleep I can unpack, check my email and wind down with a beer or two before going to bed about 5:30 a.m. I can usually sleep six or seven hours, which goes a long way toward shifting to Pattaya time, which is 12 hours different than my home base.
Bunky
HndsomeDude143
01-14-12, 21:17
Request friends please help locate the place as post sent earler as attached.
Hi frnz!
Had been to Pattaya some 2 yrs back under a package tour. The agent attending helped me to a Russian show in north Pattaya near the big see mall. The show was awesum as the russians used to go nude and used to choose an audience among us to do some sleazy act to the extend of gettin the guy completely nude and bathing him with some naughty acts. Generally she used to pick audience from the first row. Now again I'm planning to visit Pattaya but this time on my own arrangement. Request frnz if someone can help me locate the place who has recently visited them. The russians are with big sized assets and in best shape. Its a place worth going. Looking for some positive responses.
Mr Enternational
01-14-12, 21:20
This is certainly a good plan. But when I land at BKK I'm always keyed up, excited to begin my holiday. So even though it's been a 25 hour trip I'm not inclined to stop moving. My practice is to book a taxi from Khun Keak at Pattaya Taxi and head for Pattaya. At that hour there's no traffic and the trip only takes about 90 minutes. As a rule of thumb, unless there are long lines at immigration, baggage delays or lots of traffic figure three to three-and-a-half hours from landing to check in at your Pattaya hotel going down there by pre-arranged taxi.Three and a half hours from touchdown to Pattaya is an extra super long overestimate by any stretch. I think you missed my post from a couple of months ago. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1207288&viewfull=1#post1207288
Three and a half hours from touchdown to Pattaya is an extra super long overestimate by any stretch. I think you missed my post from a couple of months ago.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1207288&viewfull=1#post1207288That's what I was hoping for, but I'm not sure I want to average 140 km on an autobahn after midnight, much less the road to Pattaya, LOL. Three hours works fine for me. Last time I was in Thailand it took me that long to get to Nana from the airport.
Soi 6 gets going about one or two in the afternoon. By three or four all hands are on deck. Many of the bars have short time rooms on the premises. You'll pay 300 to the bar for the room and 700 to the girl. The room won't be fancy. And on Soi 6 you're generally done after you pop. Another alternative is to pick up a girl on Beach Road and head for a short time hotel. If you find a girl you fancy, she'll be able to direct you to a nearby short time hotel. Again, you'll pay about 300 baht for the hotel. The girl will run 500 to 1000, depending on her looks and how hard you haggle.
BunkyHaven't been to Pattaya for a while. Just wondering, are you writing about the soi 6 in Central Pattaya, or is this in South Pattaya? Also, can you give the cross streets to make it easier to find?
Thanks
That's what I was hoping for, but I'm not sure I want to average 140 km on an autobahn after midnight, much less the road to Pattaya, LOL. Three hours works fine for me. Last time I was in Thailand it took me that long to get to Nana from the airport.Taking a bus is also a great option. They leave once an hour from the airport for an awesome approximate 150 bht. You get there within an hour and a half. Air-conditioned with reserved seats. Room for luggage below. Similar to our greyhound busses in the states. Head down by Exit or Door #8, far left as you face out of the airport and you can buy a ticket at their service desk.
Taking a bus is also a great option. They leave once an hour from the airport for an awesome approximate 150 bht. You get there within an hour and a half. Air-conditioned with reserved seats. Room for luggage below. Similar to our greyhound busses in the states. Head down by Exit or Door #8, far left as you face out of the airport and you can buy a ticket at their service desk.What time does the last bus leave the airport for Pattaya?
1. Stayed in Soi 11 close to Soi LK metro which is full of bars etc and equidistant to Walking St and Soi 6. Use the baht buses if you don't want to walk 15 minutes.
2. Quality of all bars and clubs extremely variable from night to night. My favorites were Peppermint in Walking and Office in LK metro. Soi 6 is more short time. We went into one bar and we were not allowed to stay.
3. Massage parlours all over. All offering as far as I could see HE, most with BBBJ and some with FS (I would suspect all if the rooms were private). The massage is not always good.
4. Soapy massage down at Soi 2 and in Soi 10 (I think). I had three. All enjoyable. B1, 800 plus tip.
5. In the 7 days bar fined 3. The hostess from peppermint in mid 30's by far the best; the 20 yo stunner with no tits from submarine the worst. B2, 000. B3, 000 LT.
6. HJ while sat in Office. B500 tip.
7. About 10 other massages. Cost B300 plus tip.
8. Only looked on Beach Road. Lots on offer to suit every taste.
9. Vast amounts of lady boys. I saw one absolutely beautiful specimen on soi 6 but that is not my scene.
10. On walking St Baccara very good but places like Alcatraz nothing special.
11. Best bet is the normal bars where you can see someone that attracts.
What time does the last bus leave the airport for Pattaya?
http://www.belltravelservice.com/routes_rates.php#
Last bus leaving airport 6pm.
200 B. Dropped off at your hotel. Total time about 2hrs
Three and a half hours from touchdown to Pattaya is an extra super long overestimate by any stretch.Mr. Enternational's hour-and-a-half trip from touchdown to Pattaya has to be a world record! Wow! I wish I had his travel karma.
Seems like I'm always stuck in row 38 of whatever jumbo jet flies me into BKK. And after eight to ten hours in the air, the folks ahead of me move slowly indeed getting off. Out in the concourse I do my best to get ahead of them by the time we reach passport control. But invariably there is a family with children or a couple of senior citizens blocking the moving sidewalk, and they are oblivious to my attempts to get by. And when I reach the immigration checkpoint I have the uncanny ability to choose the slowest possible lane. I swear this past trip ahead of me in line there were three Taliban, two international men of mystery and an alimentary canal drug smuggler.
Of course with nearly 300 people on the flight, there are lots of bags to unload. How is it that mine always come off last? After clearing customs it takes awhile to find my taxi driver in the crowd of people competing for the attention of arriving passengers. My last trip I planned to call while waiting to get my entry stamp to tell the driver she could pick me up at the curb. But the POS cell phone I bought off The Bay of E didn't work. Once we finally got together we had to hoof it out to the farthest reaches of the parking lot to get in the car. Out on the road my driver kept up a nice pace, but she was far from the fastest. And when we stopped for cold drinks at the 7-11 the place was jammed.
So it's really not that hard to spend three hours or even more getting from your landing runway to Pattaya via prearranged taxi. But I never ever mind because that drive marks the end of the long journey from my home base to the coolest vacation spot on Earth.
Bunky
Are you writing about the Soi 6 in Central Pattaya, or is this in South Pattaya? Also, can you give the cross streets to make it easier to find?The former.
Beach Road on the west and Second Road on the east.
Bunky
I immediately got on the offensive with her friend by telling her that her attitude was horrific and that she was utterly bereft of manners. She might not have understood my English vocabulary, but she certainly was able to discern that I was conveying disapprobation for her crassness and selfishness in thwarting the sociosexual liaison between myself and her friend.Indubitably, old man. Indubitably.
A gentleman of your fine breeding who has come such a long way is well offended to find himself the cynosure of opprobium from a succession of declasse strumpets. As we say down at the yacht basin, some things simply are not done.
By the way, I was at Insomnia that night and managed to snap a photo of Mr. Lugalzaggizi.
Redfield10
01-16-12, 01:06
Indubitably, old man. Indubitably.
A gentleman of your fine breeding who has come such a long way is well offended to find himself the cynosure of opprobium from a succession of declasse strumpets. As we say down at the yacht basin, some things simply are not done.
By the way, I was at Insomnia that night and managed to snap a photo of Mr. Lugalzaggizi.I always think that anyone such as him who is "constantly" having problems with Thai girl attitudes wherever they go need only to look into the mirror to discover the root of the problem.
WTF. Same flights I took last year (Delta and Korean Air) for $1400 is NOW $2300 for same dates in September!
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@bunky: hilarious!
@Lugalzaggizi, next time use your money to invest in a long, much-needed psychotherapy. I haven't seen so much negative drivel in a long time.
pattaya blow job bars.
in preparation for my pat trip i am collecting a list of bjb to visit and report on. current list is as follows but there must be more. please come with suggestions to add. pm or quote.
golden girls in soi 13/2, 650 baht.
pump station.
[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900).
bliss loungei went to pump station a few days ago. i did not buy a drink and when i got upstairs girl says 870b for bj. i think it is a rip off.
Going to Pattaya in March and my flight gets into BKK about midnight. Is there really any benefit to taxi in that late or should I find a cheap room near the airport and grab a taxi the next morning?I would not do either. I would get a cab to Suk and an inexpensive hotel. You can start your mongering trip with a bang in BKK, then go to Pats the next day.
I went to Pump Station a few days ago. I did not buy a drink and when I got upstairs girl says 870B for BJ. I think it is a rip off.Please post a trip report on the Pump Station. That way some of us can really tell if if you have been there or just posting bullshit as you usual do. Tell us about the upstairs bar. Etc. Have you really been there? Trip reports, what a fucking concept!
Franco Cozzo
01-16-12, 12:06
Third time to Thailand (in the last year) , first time to Pattaya. I have enjoyed Bangkok on all three occassions, however. After only a few hours here I think I've been converted. Of course, I do reserve the right to change back depending on the rest of my trip.
500THB beach road girl, ST: face 7. 5 (very cute, unlike most ladies I saw on my brief walk) , body 6. 5, service 8. 5+. I am not usually a fan of ST, but for that price vs. BJ bar to start this part of my trip off, I thought "why not?" Again, I might have been converted to ST fan. She has said she has a friend who is also OK with photos, and they like to "lick lick pussy".500THB each. 1000THB if I also want to do anal.
I'm staying at Penthouse (which I was a little wary of after reports on various Thai forums). I think I like it. I was only going to stay tonight and move on to Jasmine, though I might extend my stay here instead. The stripper pole and pron playing in the background really enhance the experience (a few minor qualms, but overall I'm content. If the 'Penthouse' forum member wants to discuss these, I am sure you can work out who I am from the info provided so far). Again: reserving the right to change my mind, depending on how I feel at checkout.
I will post reports and pictures of my endevours when time permits.
LittleBigMan
01-16-12, 13:03
Lugalz.
Man your report is a trip! Whether you know it or not it gives a pretty good assumption as to the type of person you are?
It must be tough being a teacher in New York? Just hearing how the education system has gone down in the States I guess you don't get a lot of love or respect. You fly all the way to Asia looking / expecting everyone to love you and they don't! I would be bent out of shape too if that's all one can write in your reports. I guess you got to get it off your chest somehow? I'm here for you buddy? Let it all out!
Whether you know it or not just because someone doesn't respond and gives you a dirty look doesn't mean you have to go full steam ahead and beat them down maybe trying to win them over instead of them beating you down so you can't have a good time. Step back take a deep breath and come back in a day or so and read your report again maybe while someone is giving you a BBBJ?
Relax. Enjoy. LBM
Ira Johnson
01-17-12, 04:12
Hi Bros;
I'm currently suffering in Pattaya, something I am unaccustomed to after three previous visits.
I am traveling with my best mate, who is not generally a monger but gleefully adopted the 'what happens in Pattaya stays in Pattaya' attitude. He's also less flush than I, and we are sort of traveling on his budget. Significantly less than mine, but hey I save money, right? We will also go to Phuket and Phi Phi while here.
I have a few questions I would like to throw out there. Then my report of night one:
1. What over the counter cold remedy do you use when here? I seem to have a cold since I stepped off the plane from cold rainy Shanghai. I've read about Tiffy.
2. Any recommendation on strong pain meds? Two ACL surgeries 20 years past plus an indulgent lifestyle rounding out my midsection has made my knees fill with firecrackers. Someone said really tough stuff can be had OTC here. Like Vicodin or Oxycontin. I don't know, I read about Tramadol and Temgesic. Thoughts?
3. VERY IMPORTANT. We need a cover story. Several friends are traveling to Thailand too, and we will run into them in Phuket. They are the judgmental type (Western women!) so we prefer to have report of a fictional first few days to cover the fact we were in Pattaya. WHat would you tell your wife / GF / priest / au pair? I was going to google to find a small beach town near BKK to use as a cover. But I think some of you may have some thoughts.
DAY 1.
Landed in BKK uneventfully. First time to travel here during high season / Chinese New Year. Taxi to Patts was great, thanks Mr Keak. However, my friend (who visited Patts years ago with his footballer buddies) refused to pre-book a room, insisting the Apex would have rooms. They did not, of course. After pounding the pavement a while we settled on Changthong House, recommended by a bro on here. I'm not thrilled with it and at 1350 (after a hard bargaining session) for the big room that was available, it's out of my buddy's budget. So, today includes looking again for a place.
After checking in we walked to Worldwide Agogo. I love that place. My crush was already in her street clothes prepared to go home with some other dude, so I had to give up on her. I saw a dancer with an amazing body and a gorgeous face, but she was a stunt performer. Placing an egg inside and. Well. Laying it. Over and over. Then she put the egg back in and lay flat on the floor, pounding her torso against the floor. She stood up, straddled a glass, and filled the glass with a cracked and running egg. I thought she looked amazing but. Something makes me not want to take home a stunt girl. Thoughts? Pussy control, etc?
We walked over to Tim Gogo (I think) on 2nd road where the music was awesome. AC / DC, Metallica, Billy Joel. One girl was particularly cute but refused to give me the time of day except to ask if I need another beer. My former take-away from there, Tai, looked awesome in long golden corn rows but was already attached to a young pimple-faced teen. She will make a man out of him I assure you.
I felt a massage happening on my neck and back, and it was quite nice. She was a bit older, tiny but with amazing eyes. She was drunk and a little melancholy, said her name was Tip. She wanted 1500LT plus the 800 barfine (let's keep discussion of whether I am a fool on bar fines and rates aside, shall we? I came prepared to purchase what I liked without too much hassle). I was with my pal and he had not found anyone, and Tip was not really my first choice. I lied and said I would come back. She kissed me deeply like a girlfriend and something sprang to attention.
As my pal and I walked out, he said, man, if you like her go back. There was that tiny one at Worldwide I liked, I will go get her. I hemmed and hawed about the price, then said fuck it, I will go for it. I went back and Tip was thrilled and deeply kissed me there.
While she was off changing, a voluptuous dance thrust her ass in my face. Coco, she said her name was (like 3/4 of the Chinese P4P girls I meet) and would I barfine her? I already made my commitment so I said no. Coco kissed me from the stage, her knee locked around a pole and her tongue exploring my tonsils.
On the way back to Soi 13, Tip became demanding, wanting to stop in this bar or that bar. I felt the cold coming on and wanted to get to the room. I bought her beer and stuff at Family Mart. She insisted on smoking a cigarette outside before coming in (I hate cigarettes. But wish I could find other smokables here) then showered and came to bed. She was slow, deliberate, included a lotion massage with the foreplay, and it was not great sex but not bad either. It's like pizza, you know? Good or bad, hey, at least you had pizza.
Second round she refused BJ and slapped me when I moved her head towards my soldier. I scolded her and she got back to the task at hand, and we made it through round 2. I could not finish. Stupid cold. She was transforming into a cold starfish.
Did I mention she was 34? Well that is what she told me in the bar, and I thought, oh well, all that experience, right? Well after round 2 she reveals she is 44. My age. Not enough to make me scream and kick her out but did not make me thrilled either. She wanted sleep by then and so did I. It was not good sleep.
Next morning she shoved me away, complaining of my snoring. When did I get a wife, for pete's sake? Her attitude turned me off and I gave her the promised money (regretting the deal all the while) and showed her the door.
Well, tonight is walking street and maybe I will go back to Worldwide and get my long time crush who I never managed to take home. Maybe Honey massage, who knows.
Either way I am not letting last night's mediocrity deter me. Pattaya is for fun and relaxation. You guys let me vent, I appreciate it, now onward!
Looking forward to the answers to my questions.
Uncle Ira
Franco Cozzo
01-17-12, 04:48
my sentiments have changed a bit. I knew rushing into converting to Pattayism from Bangkokliscism after only a few hours in town was a bad idea. I DO like beach Road (despite one scary incident yesterday) , but walking st last night was not great. I am hoping it was Mondayitis, and tonight will have as hot women and fun people as Soi Cowboy.
Member #4698
01-17-12, 06:40
3. VERY IMPORTANT. We need a cover story. Several friends are traveling to Thailand too, and we will run into them in Phuket. They are the judgmental type (Western women!) so we prefer to have report of a fictional first few days to cover the fact we were in Pattaya. WHat would you tell your wife / GF / priest / au pair? I was going to google to find a small beach town near BKK to use as a cover. But I think some of you may have some thoughts.Have some fun. Tell the judgemental types you went to Pattaya, had the time of your life, fell in love with a 19 year old Go Go girl, and we are going to get married. Or, you could just say you went to Ko Chang and it was a beautiful island, prettier than Phuket.
Please post a trip report on the Pump Station. That way some of us can really tell if if you have been there or just posting bullshit as you usual do. Tell us about the upstairs bar. Etc. Have you really been there? Trip reports, what a fucking concept!HUH? How much detail do you want? When you walk into the upstairs room the bar is to the left and the couches to the right. I sat on a couch and she blew me for 870. I think it is way too high. But, I have really never been there, so go see for yourself. By the way there are plenty of reports on the place. Why don't you learn how to RTFF.
Being prone to kidney stones I take Madola (Thai version, I believe, of Tramadol). Have another friend back in the states who also takes it though it is prescribed medicine over there.
On the cold medicine query I'll take Tiffy or Decolgen. Both might make you drowsy.
Hi Bros;
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2. Any recommendation on strong pain meds? Two ACL surgeries 20 years past plus an indulgent lifestyle rounding out my midsection has made my knees fill with firecrackers. Someone said really tough stuff can be had OTC here. Like Vicodin or Oxycontin. I don't know, I read about Tramadol and Temgesic. Thoughts?
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HUH? How much detail do you want? When you walk into the upstairs room the bar is to the left and the couches to the right. I sat on a couch and she blew me for 870. I think it is way too high. But, I have really never been there, so go see for yourself. By the way there are plenty of reports on the place. Why don't you learn how to RTFF.Sorry youngster, one day you will grow up and will be able to keep up with the real mongers. But until then, just keep up with your one or two line posts.
They give blow jobs at the L shape bar with cut outs with little curtains. They sit on the other side of the bar on milking stools and that is where they perform. TV with porn in the background.
I don't need to learn to RTFF, I live it and then report it.
Being prone to kidney stones I take Madola (Thai version, I believe, of Tramadol). Have another friend back in the states who also takes it though it is prescribed medicine over there.
On the cold medicine query I'll take Tiffy or Decolgen. Both might make you drowsy.Did you ever research what causes kidney stones, oxolates / nuts etc? And how to avoid them before they become stones eg 2 litres of water every day flushes out the miniscule crystals before they develop bigger into actual stones? Water engergises you, doesn't make you drowsy. Try avoiding stones in the first place, lots to research / read, simple remedies when you know what / how. No harm in trying natural way, worked for me.
Uncle Volodya
01-17-12, 14:29
Indubitably, old man. Indubitably.
A gentleman of your fine breeding who has come such a long way is well offended to find himself the cynosure of opprobium from a succession of declasse strumpets. As we say down at the yacht basin, some things simply are not done.
By the way, I was at Insomnia that night and managed to snap a photo of Mr. Lugalzaggizi.TOO FUNNY Bunky!
Mr. Thirston Lugalzaggizi 3rd, please loosen up a little. You'll have a much better time in Patts. You are in sex paradise so it'd be a shame not to make the most of your trip.
I DO like beach Road (despite one scary incident yesterday) .Scary incident. Did you bump into Mr. Thirston Lugalzaggizi 3rd?
Slackerslacker
01-17-12, 17:32
Mr. Lugalzaggizi (Thurston)
A question and a comment.
Q: What is with the doffing and donning of "boots" at the arrival and departure from Insomnia?
C: Please tell me your teaching does not "effectuate" instructing anyone regarding the English Language.
Your reports are fantastic. I can only imagine how deliciously buffoonish you must be as you walk through a disco, souring women with your mere approach. The girls must be thinking,"Why exactly did this guy travel 10, 000 miles?"
MrBill1963
01-17-12, 18:19
Indubitably, old man. Indubitably.
A gentleman of your fine breeding who has come such a long way is well offended to find himself the cynosure of opprobium from a succession of declasse strumpets. As we say down at the yacht basin, some things simply are not done.
By the way, I was at Insomnia that night and managed to snap a photo of Mr. Lugalzaggizi.Too funny, I think you summed up Mr Luga perfectly, sounds like a total douche bag
I was looking at another website today and someone wrote a post that Coyotee's Agogo Bar had the best looking girls in Pattaya. Then I looked at the date of the post, and it was 5 years ago. Wondering if this place is still around and if the quality of the girls is still good. If it is still around, then where is it, Walking Street?
Mr Enternational
01-17-12, 21:08
I turned my back to them, but I did see them in my peripheral vision when I glanced around the disco and the wholesome voluptuous woman was smiling and looking at me. I ignored her and turned away from her. I certainly was not going to be tantalized by her and I was ready to call it a night and simply write off the entire unfruitful and downright unpleasant experience of the disco, especially being that I expected my flight to be delayed, preventing me from even having the opportunity to hit the disco, but then I thought I might give the wholesome woman a try. It was almost 7:00 am And Muay Thai practice would begin at 8:30 a. M, so I had to act fast. She was still making eye contact with me, indicating continued interest.
It was about closing time in the disco, so people were starting to make headway to leave the club. Miraculously, she came over to me and introduced herself as Nam, indicating that she was definitely interested in me. I told her I walked away from her before due to the fact that her friend was impolite. Again, the language barrier was a problem, It wasn't my Nam was it? Probably not because she speaks damn good English, although if you speak to them anything like you write then I'm sure they probably wouldn't understand. Try using plain, basic English and not sounding like you have a stick up your ass (pun intended re your Dominican Republic posts. LOL).
i was looking at another website today and someone wrote a post that coyotee's agogo bar had the best looking girls in pattaya. then i looked at the date of the post, and it was 5 years ago. wondering if this place is still around and if the quality of the girls is still good. if it is still around, then where is it, walking street?unfortunately, the front door to that fine establishment, located on soi marine off walking street, has been padlocked now for about the last two years.
it seems that the management ran into a bit of trouble with the authorities by employing **** talent.
the girls were cute but not quite old enough for the trade.
Franco Cozzo
01-18-12, 03:45
Scary incident. Did you bump into Mr. Thirston Lugalzaggizi 3rd?Mwahahaha. But no. Second beach Road girl I took for ST in early evening had agreed to photos, then went nuts when I tried to take pictures during sex. I apologised and deleted them in front of her. She still kept yelling, saying that no Thai women let photos be taken during "boom boom". I replied that some ladies like pictures, some even like having a go taking pictures and vids. She said that if people take pictures during "boom boom, police come and arrest" or "group of ladyboy come and beat up". I again showed her all pictures were deleted, and tried to calm her. No luck. I paid her a little extra (even though it was about 1/4ST) , finished myself off to porn on TV (I know. A waste in Pattaya) , and then set about getting rid of any pics / vids not already encrypted and stored away.
I wasn't going to go out again, as being arrested or beaten up in Thailand are not on my to-do list. However, having porn playing in background constantly, and still wanting more P4P action, I ended up out exploring a few hours later.
It wasn't my Nam was it? Probably not because she speaks damn good English, although if you speak to them anything like you write then I'm sure they probably wouldn't understand. Try using plain, basic English and not sounding like you have a stick up your ass (pun intended re your Dominican Republic posts. LOL).Maid service included. Thats nice. I like your Nam.
Sorry youngster, one day you will grow up and will be able to keep up with the real mongers. But until then, just keep up with your one or two line posts.
They give blow jobs at the L shape bar with cut outs with little curtains. They sit on the other side of the bar on milking stools and that is where they perform. TV with porn in the background.
I don't need to learn to RTFF, I live it and then report it.OK Bozo. So you read TFF, but you have obviously have never been there. To the right are the couches and chairs. There, the girl will take her top off and you can see / feel some nice tits and watch her head bouncing up and down. A lot more fun than viewing a 20 year old porn and looking at drunks at the bar. Stick to the Tijuana form, where real mongers like you hang out.
unfortunately, the front door to that fine establishment, located on soi marine off walking street, has been padlocked now for about the last two years.
it seems that the management ran into a bit of trouble with the authorities by employing **** talent.
the girls were cute but not quite old enough for the trade.thanks for the info. when you wrote soi marine, it reminded me of the marine bar. i thought it was pretty good many years ago when i first went to pattaya. but the last time i went to pattaya was in 2007. i went to the marine bar then, it was a dark and dingy looking disco, and the girls were pretty unfriendly. what is the marine bar like now? worth visiting?
Thanks for the info. When you wrote Soi Marine, it reminded me of the Marine Bar. I thought it was pretty good many years ago when I first went to Pattaya. But the last time I went to Pattaya was in 2007. I went to the Marine Bar then, it was a dark and dingy looking disco, and the girls were pretty unfriendly. What is the Marine Bar like now? Worth visiting?If you are refering to Marine Disco, I wouldn't know since disco's are past my bed time.
I don't know of a Marine Bar unless it's one of those beer bars along Soi Marine. I don't frequent beer bars either since go-go's are a much better bang for the buck.
I certainly lucked out in being able to effectuate a successful commercial sex transaction with Nam in the disco Insomnia considering how poorly things started off when I arrived.Great reports Lugal. I just think you may have a different sense of humour to everyone else's. At least I'm reading them that way and laughing myself silly. Good luck in effectuating some more successful transactions.
Dear senior members,
Can you kindly inform or give me location or link to snorkelling in real Pattaya bay (not in bed, for which you have sufficiently guided).
Thanking you all for wonderful reports
Manliraj
Great reports Lugal. I just think you may have a different sense of humour to everyone else's. At least I'm reading them that way and laughing myself silly. Good luck in effectuating some more successful transactions.Years ago on [another competing website] I fooled most with fake Pattaya reports by a guy called YoungStud. I posted all in caps, absent or incorrect grammar and I think my first title was "WHERE CAN I GET A GUN IN PATTAYA". It drove the oldsters nuts and I had a blast. The funny thing was I was in Pattaya during most of the "reporting" so when Bruce (the site owner) checked my IP he confirmed I was really in Thailand and posted to that effect increasing the credibility of the author.
It's a mystery how one could read this board and somehow get Pattaya is an escape from mass culture and boorish behavior. Dude, Pattaya IS mass culture and boorish behavior. It's about as representative of Thailand as Taco Bell is to Mexico.
Wonder where you're taking Muay Thai lessons? I usually go to Siptholek (sp?) but they moved the gym to BFE a few years ago and it's a good moto trek out there. Tuk is great at teaching elbow strikes and I've known him for years. I was interested in Fairtek but never checked it out other than going to a match there. Hard to believe you can improve in a few weeks but the individual instruction and training is awesome.
Pats was different for me as well last trip (Dec 2010). I first went there for the first time around 1990. I feel the attitudes have definitely changed although I've avoided going there in the peak of high season before.
Yet, isn't the root of suffering lack of acceptance of the inevitability of change?
If you are refering to Marine Disco, I wouldn't know since disco's are past my bed time.
I don't know of a Marine Bar unless it's one of those beer bars along Soi Marine. I don't frequent beer bars either since go-go's are a much better bang for the buck.OK, I meant Marine Disco not Marine Bar. Last time I went there was 2007, and the girls were kind of unfriendly. To those of you who do go to discos: Is Marine Disco worth visiting now? Are there friendly freelancers there?
Daddy 07- Regarding Go Go bars being more bang for the buck than beer bars. I know the girls at Go Go Bars are better looking, but GoGo bars are also more expensive. Curious as to the reason Go Go Bars are more bang for the buck. Could you explain in more detail? Thanks
Mr Enternational
01-18-12, 23:34
Thanks for the info. When you wrote Soi Marine, it reminded me of the Marine Bar. I thought it was pretty good many years ago when I first went to Pattaya. But the last time I went to Pattaya was in 2007. I went to the Marine Bar then, it was a dark and dingy looking disco, and the girls were pretty unfriendly. What is the Marine Bar like now? Worth visiting?
OK, I meant Marine Disco not Marine Bar.Sounds exactly like it was in June when I went inside; dark and dingy with unfriendly women.
Mr Enternational
01-18-12, 23:38
Can you kindly inform or give me location or link to snorkelling in real Pattaya bay (not in bed, for which you have sufficiently guided).I'm a scuba diver and I will tell you that snorkeling in Pattaya is not recommended. Pattaya Beach is nasty as shit and I wouldn't go near that water. Jomtien Beach is cleaner, but murky. At Koh Larn (Coral Island) the water is much clearer but there is nothing to see but sand and rocks.
I'm a scuba diver and I will tell you that snorkeling in Pattaya is not recommended. Pattaya Beach is nasty as shit and I wouldn't go near that water. Jomtien Beach is cleaner, but murky. At Koh Larn (Coral Island) the water is much clearer but there is nothing to see but sand and rocks.Pretty much spot on, I am a scuba diver also, and wouldn't dare get in Pattaya Bay, the best place in Thailand is probably Karbi, near Phi Phi islands. The water is crystal clear there, and there is a little more than sand and rocks to look at, but there is really no good place around Thailand for great diving or snorkeling. IMHO.
CottonBaller
01-19-12, 02:42
Hi there,
I'm new and will be making the journey from Canada to Thailand in March. Ill be staying in Pattaya for 3 nights then heading to BKK for 6.
I have a few questions, not including hotel would 5, 000 thb a day be enough to enjoy myself for the 9 nights I'm in Thailand?
In your opinion what are the 2 best Soapies in Pattaya and BKK? Best ladies not prices.
If I'm correct 3, 600 thb is for 2 ladies at Devils Den, do you recommend?
Thanks for your replies.
Daddy 07- Regarding Go Go bars being more bang for the buck than beer bars. I know the girls at Go Go Bars are better looking, but GoGo bars are also more expensive. Curious as to the reason Go Go Bars are more bang for the buck. Could you explain in more detail? ThanksMany great Go-go's are actually cheaper than beer bars if you take advantage of happy-hour drink prices. Even after happy-hour, drink prices are rougly the same as beer bars and lady drinks are also about the same.
At beer bars a girl, usually one you don't want, will attach herself to you and make you feel obligated to buy her drinks as long as you stay there, and there is no entertainment; just boring bar games and shallow chatter.
Yes, the girls you can find a go-go's are far better looking and more sexually desireable IMHO than most girls at beer bars, and the big difference is that they are up there on stage showing off their goods -- Often total nudity is on the menu -- and you don't feel obligated to buy them drinks unless you want to.
You just can't beat the entertainment at go-go's. Would you rather watch pretty girls dancing naked and showing their charms, or play connect 4 over and over while buying lady drinks and trying to carry on a stupid conversation with a fully dressed girl? For me it's a no-brainer.
When it comes to choosing a lady to take home, the fines and fees charged by the bar and your go-go girl are roughly double than what you might pay for a beer bar girl, but you usually get what you pay for.
Bottom line: If you just enjoy the great entertainment at go-go's and don't barfine girls, it's a much better value than beer bars. If you do bar fine, chances are the girl is far better looking than a beer bar girl and worth the extra cost.
I am coming to Pattaya on 29 jan sun for 7 days stay.
Now I can concentrate much on bedroom snorlkelling.
Thanks
Is Devil's Den still in business? I read a post somewhere that it closed.
It is located on Soi LK Metro off Soi Diana.
(The place sounds interesting but overpriced.)
CottonBaller
01-19-12, 09:44
Hi everyone, I'm new and I'll be making the Journey for my first time to Thailand in March. I will be staying 9 nights. 3 in Pattaya and 6 in BKK. I have a few questions that I'd like to ask if possible.
Will 5, 000 THB a day (not including hotel) be enough to have a very nice time while I'm in the land of smiles?
In your oppinion which are the 2 best places in Pattaya and BKK for Soapies / Oilies (Best Girls not prices)?
I am interested in going to the Devils Den and from what I read it's 2 ladies for 3, 600 thb? Would you recommend?
Thanks for your time.
Member #3200
01-19-12, 10:20
Cloudy and miserable day here today, but that doesn't make much difference to this paradise.
Interesting to see the past 24hrs that the influx of russians this year (I guess their economy is not in the shitter) while there's quite the decrease of tourists from rest of europe)
Each trip there seems to be less beer bars and more hotels and condos being built, Soi 8 has drastically changed in the past 5 years, sunshine hotel has taken over 1/3 of the street.
For high season / just end of peak season, hotel prices (the 600-1000B range) have remained the same or have even lowered.
Dinner traffic (630-8pm) last night on thapprya Road heading into 2nd road was jammed and so was beach Road at that hour while walking street at 730-9pm was quiet, after dinner hours hardly any traffic whatsoever.
Tonight I will see how busy this place truly is and see 1st hand if its a buyer's or seller's market in the gogos.
Strange to see something simple as 2 pc meal from KFC have a new lower price and Kamanga can be had now for 250B for a 4 pack when it was 300B last year.
Hi all,
Have been reading lately that high season in Pattaya is mot the best time to vist with prices higher and girls more picky and not willing to do LT. I am come to Pattaya end of next week and am hoping that it would be back to normal. Am I right or not?
Cheers
Is Devil's Den still in business?Still open with new management but pretty much the same girls. It's still possible to have a good time there but don't expect much help from the staff in the bar. The young guy who was there when I went the other day was so new that he didn't even know most of the girls' names, let alone their specialities.
Bottom line: If you just enjoy the great entertainment at go-go's and don't barfine girls, it's a much better value than beer bars. If you do bar fine, chances are the girl is far better looking than a beer bar girl and worth the extra cost.Good analysis. It's made me re-think my attitude towards go-go's. Might try one tonight.
I still don't know how you get over the problem that a girl who is great fun to talk to is no fun in bed. Not so big a worry for you locals, but as a casual visitor, one night spoiled is a big waste.
Years ago on [another competing website] I fooled most with fake Pattaya reports by a guy called YoungStud. I posted all in caps, absent or incorrect grammar and I think my first title was "WHERE CAN I GET A GUN IN PATTAYA". It drove the oldsters nuts and I had a blast. The funny thing was I was in Pattaya during most of the "reporting" so when Bruce (the site owner) checked my IP he confirmed I was really in Thailand and posted to that effect increasing the credibility of the author.Brilliant! You must have pissed off a lot of up-tight folk. :)
Franco Cozzo
01-19-12, 14:24
Goodbye Pattaya and Thailand, I will miss you.
I have just checked out of the Penthouse, and it has won me over. It was not totally smooth sailing at the hotel, but once I made my gripes known to reception (after checking into Jasmine Hotel for 1 night) the manager (or so I assume.a non Thai guy, probably in his 30s) set me up with a fantastic room and rate for my second stay. I will do a full report in the Penthouse section.
Most (maybe all?) of my Pattaya photos will be of Lin, the ST beach road girl that I ended up taking 4 times. Much better service than Rain (above average service, but not great) and Cherie (not good, but partly because I was too big, she was too little) that I had at Devils Den, whilst offering all the same services (all holes, lesbian). She was totally happy for photos and vids to be taken, but asked me not to put on internet or sell on VCDs. Therefore, any photos posted will have to keep her anonimity (I may even email her to ask permission. Although that would mean she would have my Psudonym email address, which although she gave me her email address and said she would send me free dirty pics and vids that she will make, I am assuming this will lead to her asking for money at some stage). She charges THB500 ST for most things (including for her half of lesbian show) , though it is THB1000 for anal. I recomend doing both of these things and getting the slightly less busy girl to video the action.
Anyway, I'm rambling as usual. Proper posts to come soon.
Is Devil's Den still in business? I read a post somewhere that it closed.
It is located on Soi LK Metro off Soi Diana.
(The place sounds interesting but overpriced.) They are still up and running but they are under new management. The owner, and the guy that ran it, had a falling out. The Devils Den moved their website to www.devilsdenthailand.com, as apparently the manager registered the old domain under his name or something. I don't know all the details, but they are still up and running, but I haven't tried since the old manger left. I've heard a lot of the girls were extremely loyal to him, and if he opens a new place they will flock to him.
I have gone there over the past month and I thought it was way overpriced. I found the girls not that attractive and the service mechanical. Maybe a place to try one time but I would say save your money. On the big picture 3600 is 7 Beach road girls or several trips down Soi 6.
Hi everyone, I'm new and I'll be making the Journey for my first time to Thailand in March. I will be staying 9 nights. 3 in Pattaya and 6 in BKK. I have a few questions that I'd like to ask if possible.
Will 5, 000 THB a day (not including hotel) be enough to have a very nice time while I'm in the land of smiles?
In your oppinion which are the 2 best places in Pattaya and BKK for Soapies / Oilies (Best Girls not prices)?
I am interested in going to the Devils Den and from what I read it's 2 ladies for 3, 600 thb? Would you recommend?
Thanks for your time.If you are worried about budget then do 3 days BKK and 6 days Pattaya. BKK is more expensive. Best sopie in BKK imo is poseidon. 3rd floor girls are hot but cost is 3000 bth and up.
For me I stsrted spending 5000 my first few days and then when I got used to the place I spent a more reasonable 3000. But depends on your activities. Devils den will cost 3600 so it can add up. My advise when you get to Pattaya don't do devils den right away. Check out the walking st scene and insomnia and beer gardens first and ease into it. The den can be a bit intkmidating and overwelming. You might not fully enjoy it if your nerves are shot.
Have fun wish I was there haha
Member #3200
01-20-12, 08:02
I spend close to 2. 5hrs in and out of windmill and living dolls 2 a gogo, checked out wibdmill 1st and at betwwen 830-930pm in was relatively busy (75% full to start and 60% at the end) , couldn't find a good place to sit by the mini stage / table where 2 women play with each other, I sat by the stage and enjooyed the view and the playfullness of the ladies.
Made my way into LD2 and I stayed there for the next hour or so, the place was dead (30% full), nice looking talent and a very nice 10pm stage show topless thai style dancing.
Typical high season here, busyness fluctuates every 15 minutes, everything seem same same, including prices for women.
Member #3200
01-20-12, 08:08
Always wonder if a bar could / would charge guys a 100B door fee to allow them to takes pics during their visit inside.
If I was a bar owner and it was legal under thai law, I would have a "camera night" once a month to boost revenue, it would set my bar apart from the dozens of others in Thailand / Pattaya.
We haven't had a pool in awhile here.
Would you as a potential customer pay the 100B door fee to be allowed to take pics-yes or no?
Hi all,
Have been reading lately that high season in Pattaya is mot the best time to vist with prices higher and girls more picky and not willing to do LT. I am come to Pattaya end of next week and am hoping that it would be back to normal. Am I right or not?
CheersThe peak of high season occured on New Year's eve but the high season, which started in November, will continue on through February and into March. Low season returns in April and lasts through October.
Don't dispair, however, as there is plenty of fun and lots of willing girls to choose from during high season. I'm sure you'll be able to find what you're looking for and have a great time!
Walking Street, where the quality action is, will be fairly crowded at the best venues all year long.
BTW -- the weather is much better, cooler and rarely rainy, during high season.
Hi there,
I'm new and will be making the journey from Canada to Thailand in March. Ill be staying in Pattaya for 3 nights then heading to BKK for 6.
I have a few questions, not including hotel would 5, 000 thb a day be enough to enjoy myself for the 9 nights I'm in Thailand?
In your opinion what are the 2 best Soapies in Pattaya and BKK? Best ladies not prices.
If I'm correct 3, 600 thb is for 2 ladies at Devils Den, do you recommend?
Thanks for your replies.As mentioned before, less time in Bangkok, and more in Pattaya. I would say two nights in BKK at the most, unless you are doing the tourist thingy.
5000 THB should do fine in Pattaya.
Soapy in BKK, my favorite place in the LOS is Annies. Aey runs the place and she is a wonderful woman and she always has great recommendations. As far as Pattaya, I have not had much luck for soapies, and the quality thereof.
Skip Devil's Den, over rated and not worth the price. Instead, play around Soi 6 and find a couple of girls that play nicely together.
Have fun in the greatest monger's spot in the world!
The peak of high season occured on New Year's eve but the high season, which started in November, will continue on through February and into March. Low season returns in April and lasts through October.
Don't dispair, however, as there is plenty of fun and lots of willing girls to choose from during high season. I'm sure you'll be able to find what you're looking for and have a great time!
Walking Street, where the quality action is, will be fairly crowded at the best venues all year long.
BTW. The weather is much better, cooler and rarely rainy, during high season.Thanks. Apprecaite the response.
Cheers
Skip Devil's Den, over rated and not worth the price.Well it has a large and dedicated regular clientele, so obviously plenty of people would disagree with you there.
The key to enjoying DD is to figure out which girls will work well for you (plenty of info available on this and other boards) , and then to take charge so they don't give you their standard routine.
It's a unique place, especially now that Eden in Bangkok has gone so seriously downhill. I'd think most devoted mongers would at least want to give it a try once. If you don't like it, fine. But when it's good it's pretty damn good.
Slackerslacker
01-20-12, 15:53
Mwahahaha. But no. Second beach Road girl I took for ST in early evening had agreed to photos, then went nuts when I tried to take pictures during sex. I apologised and deleted them in front of her. She still kept yelling, saying that no Thai women let photos be taken during "boom boom". I replied that some ladies like pictures, some even like having a go taking pictures and vids. She said that if people take pictures during "boom boom, police come and arrest" or "group of ladyboy come and beat up". I again showed her all pictures were deleted, and tried to calm her. No luck. I paid her a little extra (even though it was about 1/4ST)Some people say Thai working girls are stupid, and in some ways they are, but they are brilliant at scamming.
This is just one of the seemingly infinite variations of bullshit a bargirl will throw at you to take a runner with your money.
Hi everyone, I'm new and I'll be making the Journey for my first time to Thailand in March. I will be staying 9 nights. 3 in Pattaya and 6 in BKK. I have a few questions that I'd like to ask if possible.
Will 5, 000 THB a day (not including hotel) be enough to have a very nice time while I'm in the land of smiles?
In your oppinion which are the 2 best places in Pattaya and BKK for Soapies / Oilies (Best Girls not prices)?
I am interested in going to the Devils Den and from what I read it's 2 ladies for 3, 600 thb? Would you recommend?
Thanks for your time.For 5,000 Baht you can have a pretty good time. Buy the girls drinks, bar fine them and party, party, party. Don't be put off by members replying about how they get by on 500 a day. These guys aren't here to party, party, party.
Soapies I like Sabai land and Devils Den seems to be going through some kind of management changes. The current word seems to be leave it alone.
Wolvenvacht
01-20-12, 21:32
Hi everyone, I'm new and I'll be making the Journey for my first time to Thailand in March. I will be staying 9 nights. 3 in Pattaya and 6 in BKK. (snip)
Will 5, 000 THB a day (not including hotel) be enough to have a very nice time while I'm in the land of smiles?As always, the answer is "it depends".
Bangkok being more expensive than Pattaya, you can optimize your budget if you spent less time in Bangkok and more time in Pattaya.
If you came to Thailand only to study the female part of the human species, then I'd say to skip Bangkok completely. From personal experience I can tell you that there are no significant differences between the Bangkok ladies and the Pattaya ladies, except their prices.
If your main interests is to sample Thai culture and art and history, then Bangkok is the place you want to be. Pattaya is rather poor in that respect.
But 5000 Baht / day should be sufficient wherever you go. Set aside 500 baht / day for food and drinks during the day (and that means you can eat in fancy restaurants) , another 500 baht / day for extras (museum entrance, transport, other touristy things) and you have 4000 baht / day to spend on your study of the female part of the human species. Wherever you are (even in a Soi Cowboy or Walking street gogo) that will give you a few drinks for you, some ladydrinks and a nice lady going LT with you. When combining the tourist and monger aspects of your persona, I find LT gives you the best possible price / quality / fun ratio. A gogo has the benefit of allowing you to visually examine the wares on offer and rare is the gogo-girl that does not allow you some more intimate sampling of her charms after receiving a ladydrink. Aye, indeed! If you are not quick to cuddle her, she will sample you. LT allows you then to bring her to your room and then there is no time pressure, nor any other limit than your personal stamina, to have a good time.
It's a unique place, especially now that Eden in Bangkok has gone so seriously downhill. I'd think most devoted mongers would at least want to give it a try once. If you don't like it, fine.Curious about Eden Club in Bangkok going downhill. I will be in Bangkok for a few days, staying a few blocks from the Eden Club. Could you give more info on how Eden in Bangkok is going downhill? Last time I was there was in 2007 and at that time I thought the girls were not as good looking as previous times. But I didn't choose anyone so I don't know what it was like.
The former.
Beach Road on the west and Second Road on the east.
BunkyOk, I'm getting senile, but now I remember I actually was on Soi 6 in Pattaya on my last trip to Thailand in 2007. (I didn't remember the name of the street.) I remember there were loads of bars, on both sides of the street, and about 10 girls sitting outside in front of each bar. (I saw a video of Soi 6 on You Tube yesterday and it looked just like when I was there). I remember the quality of the girls, as far as looks go, was pretty good. I did take one girl, and the room was kind of dingy. She wasn't very good in the sack, and kind of rushed a little, but that makes sense since this is a short time place. They usually are not too good in the sack if they are doing many guys short time in one day or night.
So the advantages of this place, when I was there, was lots of girls, many good looking, and cheap prices. The disadvantage, if my one time at this place is typical, is dingy room and not much time in the sack, and not quality time in the sack. I was only on Soi 6 once. Does my one-time experience sound typical to you guys who have been there often? Also, around what time at night does the action there stop?
Well it has a large and dedicated regular clientele, so obviously plenty of people would disagree with you there.I understand that many would disagree with me. Mainly because DD spoon feeds two girls for the customers. However, there are plenty of places where you can get two, three girls, for the same price or less, and they will stay in the hotel even longer.
In the years past, I have experienced DD and Eden, but nowadays it is more fun to set up my own 2-3-4 playmates.
Sexual Healing
01-21-12, 20:13
Hi!
Never been in a BJ bar, I usually prefer to get full service (having a ride too).
On the other hand, I am going to take a long journey to get in Pattaya and arrive late at night possibly tired.
Sure I won't feel like party then but a goodnight BJ would perfectly do!
I guess there was a discussion going on about the best BJ bars around. Tried to scroll down the thread to spot it but didn't found it.
Anyway, verdict of the community?
Which are the best one around the Walking Street area and how much do they charge you?
Thanks
Could you give more info on how Eden in Bangkok is going downhill?Management just seems to be coasting on its old reputation. I don't think I've seen a young or even semi-pretty girl in there for a couple years now. Always worth a look of course but don't expect it to be like old times.
CottonBaller
01-22-12, 02:55
As always, the answer is "it depends".
Bangkok being more expensive than Pattaya, you can optimize your budget if you spent less time in Bangkok and more time in Pattaya.
If you came to Thailand only to study the female part of the human species, then I'd say to skip Bangkok completely. From personal experience I can tell you that there are no significant differences between the Bangkok ladies and the Pattaya ladies, except their prices.
If your main interests is to sample Thai culture and art and history, then Bangkok is the place you want to be. Pattaya is rather poor in that respect.
But 5000 Baht / day should be sufficient wherever you go. Set aside 500 baht / day for food and drinks during the day (and that means you can eat in fancy restaurants) , another 500 baht / day for extras (museum entrance, transport, other touristy things) and you have 4000 baht / day to spend on your study of the female part of the human species. Wherever you are (even in a Soi Cowboy or Walking street gogo) that will give you a few drinks for you, some ladydrinks and a nice lady going LT with you. When combining the tourist and monger aspects of your persona, I find LT gives you the best possible price / quality / fun ratio. A gogo has the benefit of allowing you to visually examine the wares on offer and rare is the gogo-girl that does not allow you some more intimate sampling of her charms after receiving a ladydrink. Aye, indeed! If you are not quick to cuddle her, she will sample you. LT allows you then to bring her to your room and then there is no time pressure, nor any other limit than your personal stamina, to have a good time.Very good info, thanks!
So the advantages of this place, when I was there, was lots of girls, many good looking, and cheap prices. The disadvantage, if my one time at this place is typical, is dingy room and not much time in the sack, and no quality time in the sack. I was only on Soi 6 once. Does my one-time experience sound typical to you guys who have been there often? Also, around what time at night does the action there stop?Your evaluation of Soi 6 is basically accurate. The short time rooms vary from bar to bar. Some are nicer than others. The better ones are IMHO nicer than "dingy." As for "quality time in the sack," that depends on what you prefer. If you want to spend hours in bed, shagging, sharing and snuggling, Soi 6 is not the place. But if your idea of "quality" is showering with your girl, followed by a bareback blow job, then moving on to multiple positions, finishing with another blow job and launching a load all over her than you've come to the right place.
What's the best time of day? I like arriving at sunset, tuning up with a drink or two, and then making my choice. The selection of girls is at its height then, and after I'm finished the evening is young. If I've got an early tee time the next day, I grab a quick bite and retire for the evening. If I suspect I'll be ready to go again later, I might go back to my room for a combat nap. In my experience, Soi 6 slows down later. By midnight you'll be better off in the beer bar complex on Sois 7 & 8, or down on Walking Street.
Bunky
I understand that many would disagree with me. Mainly because DD spoon feeds two girls for the customers. However, there are plenty of places where you can get two, three girls, for the same price or less, and they will stay in the hotel even longer.
In the years past, I have experienced DD and Eden, but nowadays it is more fun to set up my own 2-3-4 playmates.Wonderful. Seem that you are with two gals in one of the Penthouse hotel rooms?
I'm planning a 50 years old birthay party (not exaxtly on the right days) , but. A week or so in a Penthouse hotel suite, at leat with three LBFM every evening.
Any suggestions?
IT.
By the way somebody has been at Secrets Villa wich is another of my options?
So the advantages of this place, when I was there, was lots of girls, many good looking, and cheap prices.Lots of girls and cheap, for sure. Good looking, well, that's not a Soi 6 strong point. But if you sweep up and down enough you'll usually find something. I actually think it's a better drinking soi than mongering soi, but it's nice that any time you do meet someone you like, you just take her upstairs.
Web Connect
01-22-12, 14:17
Always wonder if a bar could / would charge guys a 100B door fee to allow them to takes pics during their visit inside.
If I was a bar owner and it was legal under thai law, I would have a "camera night" once a month to boost revenue, it would set my bar apart from the dozens of others in Thailand / Pattaya.
We haven't had a pool in awhile here.
Would you as a potential customer pay the 100B door fee to be allowed to take pics-yes or no?That is a good idea.
If there are special events like model shows I would think it is common for guys to take pictures.
But if there are very friendly camera bars please let us know.
I understand most working girls do not want their picture taken, but of course some girls are not shy about it at all and want to become "stars"!
By the way, I guess prices for ST and LT at other go go bars on Walking Street are probably the same as in Baccara: Asking (but negotiable) TB 2000 ST, TB 3000 LT?A couple of data points for comparison. A girl in Silver Star on soi 7 offered me 1000 LT on Saturday. Lovely pair of breasts. It was shortly after 1AM so not long before closing time.
In soi 6 a girl sweetly announced that she wanted 1000. I declined and said that I'd love to take her upstairs, but 700 is OK. When she saw I wasn't going to get into a discussion, an older girl had a quick word with the first one, and the price dropped.
Wonderful. Seem that you are with two gals in one of the Penthouse hotel rooms?
I'm planning a 50 years old birthay party (not exaxtly on the right days) , but. A week or so in a Penthouse hotel suite, at leat with three LBFM every evening.
Any suggestions?Great way to spend your 50th birthday, or any birthday, or any day for that matter.
I looked at the pool deck rooms when I was there in December, but the outdoor pool wasn't open at that time. There is an indoor pool and the girls always have fun in there. No rules of course. I thought that the pool deck rooms might get a bit noisy if there was a party in the pool, but then again, the rooms have double sliding doors in order to keep the noise out.
All of the rooms on the 5th floor have jacuzzis, which are a must. Make sure you bring 2-3 bottles of Mr. Bubble, the girls love that as well. It will be a comfy fit with three girls and yourself, I tried 4, but it was too crowded.
The rule at the Penthouse is that you can bring two girls to your room for no charge, but the 3rd girl there is a charge, not sure how much. Except, if you pull the girls out of the Penthouse club, Kitten, you can bring as many as you want. I had one hell of a Christmas party!
Ira Johnson
01-23-12, 06:36
Pretty early on day two, we moved to Apex on Second Road. It's quite basic, a little old and shabby but clean and mostly well-maintained. It is also much more in line with my buddy's finances. 650 per night and a cheap breakfast and dinner buffet. No Wi Fi though.
It was Tuesday so we checked the Soi Buakhao market for cheap shorts and t-shirts for the trip (Bangkok, Phuket and Phi Phi are later in the itinerary). In the afternoon we went for massages. Proper massages without the extra frills. My knees were hurting and I thought it might help. We checked out Honey Massage nearby only to learn that it was a full service place only. With huge prices to match. I'd hoped to get a real massage from a pretty girl and save my superpowers for a Gogo gal later. Not far back up the Soi from Honey was another massage place with several attractive gals, and the prices were in line with what I expected a true massage place to charge.
We were led in by two ladies. The cuter one was drawn to my buddy (bastard) but that is what I get for traveling with a younger, fitter guy. My masseuse was no gorilla though, in fact quite nice. We were led into a room of beds separated by curtains. As she drew the curtains she put her finger to her mouth to tell me to keep silent in the serene atmosphere. The oil massage was thorough and professional although not hard enough.
As I expected, near the end she lightly thumps little Ira and waggles her eyebrows."How much?" I silently mouth, as other patrons are only a few feet away, separated only by linen curtains. She held up one finger. Hmmm, happy ending for only 100 Baht? Why not, I think. I nod, and she goes under the curtain to fetch something.
When she returns, she dims the light, and sets about washing little Ira. Yes, I know what you are thinking but I was still clueless at this point. Then she began to disrobe. And I got the hint. She looked fantastic, backlit by the sunlight behind the curtains, and I knew I wanted whatever was coming.
Her oral skills were strong and consistent, and she soon sheathed little Ira and sprang to the table and straddled me. She rode like she was trying to win a contest on the mechanical bull at Gilley's. But to no avail.
Earlier in the day I stopped at a pharmacy for Tramadol, which I had read about here. My knees felt no pain, and neither did any other part of me. But, as a muscle relaxant, it had the unintended side effect of preventing little Ira from expressing his joy.
I knew my buddy must be outside wondering, but no matter what the energetic masseuse tried, little Ira stayed stubbornly hard and resolute. Eventually I told her it was ok, I was just tired and I was quite pleased. I deduced that the one finger indicated ten times as much baht as I originally assumed, but she told me to give her whatever I wanted. She seemed to have bruised pride in being unable to accomplish the task. I gave her the thousand anyway because she really seemed to be frustrated with the situation.
We then returned to the hotel for a nap. We planned to take Walking Street by storm and needed to be fully rested.
I woke up again at 8pm. We ate the dinner buffet at Apex then on to Beach Road where we stopped in at Tahitian Queen. Only one gal stood out to me there, and she seemed full of herself anyway. Inquiry revealed an 800bf / 3500LT. Eh, not for you dear. She was cute and funny but it was early yet. A gaggle of other gals were huddled nearby playing Fruit Ninja on an iPad. My buddy and I commented that the owner must be out of town because the service and attention there was severely lax. Play games with us guys, ladies, and finger your iPad on your own time.
Angelwitch! I had long heard of it but sometimes on this board it's spoken of derisively, so I had not considered it. However, we loved the show. These girls were some of the hottest we had seen, and it was choreographed theatrical stuff, not the bored hip-swaying we'd seen thus far. We stayed there a while but wanted to see what else was out there.
We had heard that Windmill A go go was restored to former glory now that the owner had returned so we checked that out. This was the first place that made us wonder if there is any vetting process for quality of girls. The girls were aggressive about buying drinks and there was nothing remarkable about the dancing. A hot tub and massage Table we occupied by fully nude gals that really needed to put on some clothes. Ugh.
We moved on to Heaven Above Pattaya, and really enjoyed that place. The gals seemed to enjoy dancing, had fun with one another, and really appreciated a lady drink (once again, please keep your anti-lady drink and anti-barfine thoughts to yourself). The place was comfortable, the prices were not bad, and the music was good.
In my home in China there is a Chinese lady working in a department of my company that I rarely interact with, and therefore I rarely interact with her. However, I lust after her quite a bit. She is married and besides I do not fish off the company pier. When I saw that one of the dancers at Heaven Above was remarkably similar in appearance, I had to buy her a drink.
Bom was tiny and silly and full of energy. She spoke very little English and I could not even work out her age or where she came from. Se also could drink me under the table and was already half in the bag. Her favorite English phrase was "I like you," which she followed up with long, deep kisses and biting my neck. I was totally into the fantasy of getting with this colleague-proxy. However, I balked at the 600BF / 3000 LT fee, thinking she was great but maybe not quite worth that. The girl whose company my friend was enjoying refused to go home with him, pleading that she had to attend a karaoke birthday party later after work, but promised to go home with him for 2000LT if he came back the next night.
We chose to try Soi LK Metro next, and neither of us had timepieces so we did not realize just how late it was. Office a Go Go was disappointing, drained of energy, and on the verge of closing. It was 3 in the morning. We called it a night although we each went to bed alone. After all, tomorrow is another day.
I understand that many would disagree with me. Mainly because DD spoon feeds two girls for the customers. However, there are plenty of places where you can get two, three girls, for the same price or less, and they will stay in the hotel even longer.
In the years past, I have experienced DD and Eden, but nowadays it is more fun to set up my own 2-3-4 playmates.Can you recommend some of these better places, and where they are located,"where you can get two, three girls, for the same price or less, and they will stay in the hotel even longer."
Can you recommend some of these better places, and where they are located,"where you can get two, three girls, for the same price or less, and they will stay in the hotel even longer."Soi 6 is one of the oblivious places. The open beer bars, there are always girls that are friends that will go together, and are cheaper, more fun, and will hang out in the hotel. But I always buy them food from room service, so they feel quite relaxed in the room.
I once picked up two friends from the Beer Garden, and another time 2 friends from a disco. On the recent trip, it was a few girls from X-Zone, but I've known them for a couple of years.
I met these 2 ladies at 6 in the morning, after I just arrived in Pattaya. 1000 for each and they stayed for a few hours.
Ira Johnson
01-23-12, 08:48
I woke up with an unfulfilled Cialis-fueled pup tent in my sheets and fantasies of my co-worker as portrayed by Bom dancing in my head. I called my buddy to breakfast because I wanted to get my mind on other things.
The breakfast at Apex is substantial but not gourmet. For 120 Baht for guests it's great if you want to load up on a big meal. We never could figure out why they wrapped little sausages in bacon rather than just cooking proper bacon though.
We walked around to find a travel agent who could help us book a train ticket from Bangkok to Phuket for later in our trip. We wanted a night in Bangkok before heading south but the travel agents seemed only interested in booking buses from Pattaya.
This quest took us down Soi 6 at about 2pm and it was just waking up. The gals were not nearly as aggressive as they had been when I had walked that Si on evenings in the past, but my buddy does not find aggressive girls entertaining so it all worked out fine.
A stroll along the beach revealed the array of freelancers that we all expect, along with more and more Russians. And Russian gals. My Yellow Fever is incurable but my buddy began to long for a tall cool Svetlana if he could only obtain one.
We turned down Soi Post Office and found an efficient, reputable travel agent who proved unable to help us as well, but it at least solidified that we would have to buy the train tickets in Bangkok. We stopped at a magazine stand and found a copy of After Dark, a slick and glossy magazine about the bargirl scene. I bought it, referring to it as 'Lonely Planet Walking Street' for use in planning our further nights out.
After a short nap back at the hotel, we adjourned to Walking Street once more. We stopped at the Simon Beer Bar complex as it was still early and we wanted to plot out our evening. A look through After Dark had given me a short list of places worth checking out, assuming the gals pictured were actually working in those bars.
We had a beer at Frog, the beer bar at the front corner of the complex, because my buddy fancied a tall Chinese-looking gal there. She neglected to pay us any attention, and although there were several ladies working at this little bar, none other really caught our attention.
We wandered over to Secrets because we were hungry for dinner, and it promised to have food AND girls. It delivered with a fairly nice and extensive English pub menu. My pal's Chili Jacket potato was quite nice but my Chicken Tikka Masala Jacket Potato was not so great. What was great though, was the quality of music and girls. When we walked in I saw one of the prettiest faces I had seen in Pattaya, although (as my buddy mildly needled me about) it sat atop quite a chubby gal. She was fat, there's no other way to say it, but not USA Midwest housewife gone to pot pear-shaped fat. Instead, she was voluptuous, rubenesque, zaftig- and a face and full lips that would break your heart.
I will pause here to mention my thing for bangs. A very average looking girl can wear straight-across bangs for a hairstyle and I'll sigh like a schoolboy. I lie in China where it is a preferred hairstyle so, you can imagine.
So the fat chick had a sweet face and bangs and I could not stop looking at her. Of course I looked at the go go dancers too. My buddy was quite interested in an athletic gal with a short bob haircut- she moved like a whip and was a joy to watch. When she was not dancing she was with a customer that had bought her drinks so although she kept smiling over at him, he never had the chance to talk to her. However, the pretty chubby girl with bangs came over and introduced herself to me.
Geb is 19 and from Isaan. She had a kid 6 months ago and the dad is nowhere in sight, thus she struck out for Pattaya. She was charming and entertaining even with her limited English. I knew better, really, because it was still early and I wanted a fantasy girl, not a girlfriend experience. I wanted to keep my options open but I knew the likelihood was that Geb would not be bar fined that night. I asked, and she said the barfine was 450 and her longtime fee was 3000. (Yeah I had the same reaction you are having now- 3K for a fat chick?). I asked when she finished work and she said 4:00am. I lied through my teeth and promised to return before then.
Next, it was off to the go gos that we'd found in the magazine- two were right beside each other, Alcatraz and Fahrenheit. I tend to lead, but asked my buddy which he preferred to begin with.
"I'm more interested in Alcatraz but the girls in front of Fahrenheit are sexier," he said.
Fahrenheit made our jaws drop. At the time of this writing, we still have not found a go go with this quantity of high-quality babes. Every girl on stage, most every waitress even, seemed attractive and desirable. My eyes were immediately drawn to number 19 a tall beauty with big fake spheres and perfect bangs. However she looked cold and bored so I did not really consider her. There was also number 99, dark and tall with big breasts (Fahrenheit A Go Go had by far the largest number of really busty girls that we have seen in a go go) , whipping her hair around like a 1980's heavy metal music video. There was also a sexy, sassy dark babe with thick curly blond hair that was teasing every guy she could and literally rubbing her ass in faces of guys near the stage. We were in heaven.
A waitress nearby caught my pal's eye and he wanted to buy her a drink but she was quite busy, so he concentrated his attention on number 53: tall, perfectly proportioned, with long wavy hair. What bangs do for me, height does for my buddy. When he pointed her out onstage, I noticed one of the most amazing visions. Number 66. Again, big fake boobs, but a perfect ass, smooth skin, not that tall, and dancing like sex oozed from her pores. I had to buy her a drink. She said her name was Ying.
I thought this is a girl who really can be selective about who she chooses as a customer, so I decided that my buddy and I were now businessmen preparing to open Shanghai's first go go bar and we were traveling through Thailand as research.
She looked amazing. So much packed into a tight tiny body and no flaws to be seen, with flashing eyes that were designed to open wallets. She was quite interested in my idea to open a Go Go in Shanghai and went into business phase: How to take care of dancers, how to handle bar fine in China, visas, etc. Seems she occasionally goes to Singapore for a month at a time to dance but hates it because of all the Indians. Fahrenheit turns them away! She claimed the bar pays her 20, 000 Baht salary a month, and her 800BF / 3500LT gets her up to earning 120, 000 Baht per month to take care of her 2 year old back in her village. I expressed I was interested in discussing further in my hotel, and the LT price dropped to 3200. I still was not pleased at the total, but said I would consider it. She finished her drink and trotted off to the loo.
My mate was busy finding ways to chat with the cute waitress he had his eye on but it was a busy night. He also fancied number 53, but as he is fairly indecisive in many things it's a dilemma for him if there is more than one girl he likes. His standards are high, too. An off-duty hottie with breasts as big as her head entered the room and he decided he did not like her face. More for me I guess.
I looked up and Ying was onstage again, without so much as a "see you later." Forgetting about etiquette for the moment, I decided to buy a drink for number 99 and try the Shanghai Go Go story on her.
Her name was Nam and she was 23 and totally funny and mercenary."I saw you sitting with the small girl, and you want to buy me drink? I don't want her to box me!" she laughed, punching at the air in front of my face. I motioned for her to sit between me and my friend, and she crawled under the table to get there. She was loads of fun to talk to. She had worked as a hotel cashier for a while until she realized there was much more money to be made here. She loved dancing and hated creepy old men but was a good actress, she said. She spilled her lady drink on herself and wandered off to the bathroom to clean up. My buddy had gotten some on him too and grumbled a bit but laughed. When she returned, she managed to spill his beer on the sofa as well! She felt quite embarrassed and insisted on buying him another drink. Soon she was grinding and making out with another guy across the bar as the guy's farang lady friend looked on approvingly. The trio left together not much later.
I noticed that Ying was studiously keeping her back to me onstage and I remembered Nam's warning. I sent the waitress to buy her a drink and Ying looked back at me and shook her head. I really felt shitty, I had breached etiquette that I had read about before. At least that is how I felt. I chatted over beers with my buddy for a while and we discussed the matter (and other gals). As we were ready to leave, my buddy went to Ying who was pouting angrily in a corner and tried to apologize on my behalf, saying I only sought to get him interested in Nam. Ying would have none of it. I went there myself and said I knew she was angry and I am sorry. She dismissed me with a regal wave of her hand. Ah well, I fucked that up.
We moved next door to Alcatraz. Compared to the warm, comfortable, correctly-lit Fahrenheit, Alcatraz looked as it should. A gray-washed, cold cement prison. It was not a welcoming design. The girls on stage were unremarkable. The place was packed though, and we were given stools by the door. A massive pair of breasts caught my eye, and then I nearly lost my Tikka Masala as I followed upward to the face. I have never seen a face this ugly attached to a body this hot. Butter face would not even describe it. In what we could only deduce was plastic surgery gone horribly wrong, her face looked like a ventriloquist's dummy and halloween witch rolled into one. And I am really trying to be accurate here without hyperbole. When she smiled at us I was terrified. Grinning made it so much worse. My pal posited that perhaps she had been in a terrible accident and this was the botched plastic surgery result.
Three tall, pretty girls came around pushing tequila on us. I'm not a fan of hassle and begging to buy drinks and it just makes my friend irritable. We buy lady drinks and are happy to do so. But not when demanded.
We moved to a booth when one became available, wondering if it was worth staying. I still felt really bad for hurting Ying's pride, and my friend suggested I have ascot of the tequila to boost my spirits.
The tequila girl was tall and thin in a blue bikini and a big pleasantly-toothy grin. She was much too thin for my tastes, but I loved her face and attitude. She said she loved to dance but was ashamed because her breasts were so small. She was saving up for a 25000 Baht implant job. She told me of her child down in her village, and her loving but estranged ex-husband who worked in Poland as a chef for a Thai restaurant. I found her appealing but she said she would never go home with a customer. So far, in her several months here, she had met only farang butterflies which was what she expected. She would not go home with a man without feeling for him, and that would not happen in a bar. I felt refreshed by her story (and I don't assume it was true but I choose to believe these stories are true until proven otherwise) and she kissed me. She then asked me to buy tequila for her and her friend. At which point we vacated.
My buddy wanted to go back in to Fahrenheit to talk to the waitress and maybe number 53. I only wanted to go in there if I could smooth things over with Ying. Yes, now I wanted to take her home but mostly I did not want her thinking I was a dick. I could not bring myself to return there, so I chose to go back to Heaven Above Pattaya and secure my co-worker fantasy. My buddy agreed to meet me there if things failed at Fahrenheit and he could gather his Heaven Above chick too, now that the birthday party from yesterday had passed.
Bom was happy to see me and kissed me right away. Wow, she was sloshed but full of energy. She loved dancing so much but did not take it that seriously at all. It was near closing time, and I bought her a drink and discussed taking her home. She was excited, kissing me, shouting "I like you, I like you!" Her drunken state reduced her English vocabulary from 5 words to none so the mama was called in to translate. I wanted to make sure Bom understand long-time meant several boom-boom and smoke me. Bom shook her head at the idea of going down on me, so I said thanks but no thanks. I stuffed a couple bills in her panty waistband when my buddy walked in the door.
When I had come in I saw his gal from the previous night but now she was nowhere to be seen. The bar was closing slowly, girls evaporating into the pre-dawn darkness, but several gals and mongers were still around. He and I walked down the stairs, and he discussed going back to Secrets for the athletic dancer with the little bob haircut. I suggested we go back up to Heaven Above and ask for his girl before we disappear, and frankly I wanted to see Bom once more.
The mama did not know where my buddy's gal had gone, but explained that Bom WANTED to go with me and did not refuse to smoke, she just had never done that and was afraid she'd mess it up. Turns out she's only been in Pattaya two weeks and had never been bar fined. I told Mama I would teach her and gave the bar fine and Mama hustled Bom off to get dressed. My buddy cautioned me against taking an inexperienced girl, but I was resolute. I wanted to bang my co-worker in some fashion.
Bom and I bounced off into the night, and she was as bubbly as ever. My buddy strode off to Secrets to obtain that little bob-haired dancer. The baht bus drivers were pulling their usual 3 AM trick of becoming private taxis instead of ferrying people as they should, so we walked a bit and found a decent baht bus for usual fare.
She left her I'd with the mildly disapproving bellboy and we adjourned to the room. After her shower I learned that her costume did a lot to lift and enhance her figure. I was not thrilled but I wanted my colleague! When she began to go down on me it was totally clear that she was NOT inexperienced at this. I wondered what game was being played here.
As she sheathed me, some English returned to her vocabulary and she conveyed she was tired and only wanted one boom boom then go home, is that ok? I said sure, for short time price. She smiled in her confusion and I patiently used hand signals, pidgin English, and mental telepathy until she understood. Less money for one time then leave. She accepted, she did not want to stay the night.
As I finished with her riding me, she pumped her fists in the air victoriously, shouting "Yay! Yay! Woohoo!" like we had just scored a winning point. That felt just weird. She dismounted, got dressed and prepared to leave. As she was dressing a text message came in from my buddy. He was at Secrets where some high-roller had bought Bob-hair and six other girls round after round of drinks and she could not escape, although her meaningful glances and messages from the mamasan indicated that she wanted him and he should wait. The text was time-stamped as 3:11AM, and a plan hatched in my head to make this a memorable night.
I dressed, shot downstairs and grabbed a motorbike to walking street. As I walked into Secrets, it was just about 4am and there was Geb, dressed in street clothes and about to leave. She was shocked and happy to see me. Although not as shocked as my pal was. I paid Geb's barfine and indicated to her I wanted to wake up beside her. She pushed for short time because of the late hour and she wanted to sleep in her own bed, and I said,"Let's do short-time then after we can discuss if we make it long time." She agreed.
We sat with my buddy and glared at the high roller as it neared 4:30 and no sign of leaving. The farang owner of Secrets stood beside the old punter, minding and managing the table. An older waitress indicated to me that this man had bought a large number of drinks for everyone and the owner refused to let Bob leave for my friend, not until released from the party by the old man's departure. Luckily though he had already bar fined another so we assumed we just had to wait out the storm.
By nearly 4:45 though there was no sign of it letting up, so Geb and I left, trailed by my slightly morose buddy. Bob seemed regretful in her parting gaze. Geb found my pal's sadness endearing.
Geb did not want to stay longtime but she did give me a wonderful girlfriend experience. We did two rounds, and in between, Geb offered and performed a thorough massage. As she prepared to leave she declared me her tilak and begged me to take her again the next night. I lied and said I would be there. I did not return to her because I knew if I did I would become addicted.
Pattaya Vs Phuket Trip Observations.
I ended up in Pattaya because Phuket is much more expensive (double?) and because of price fixing and because accommodation costs about double. Actually 3 days in HKT. 3 in BKK and 7 in Patts.
Pattaya (8-18 Dec 2011) was not that busy, trade for owners I don't think was great, and year on year, the attitude of the girls had gone way down, and the expectations of money was not aligned to the number of customers, and even on rainy nights. Just 3 blokes in Office go go. Go go asking prices were a lot / same as if it were full. Sorry Office. There is a lot to be said by being realistic.
In Phuket, the strips or sois are laid out much better, and best of all the gogo dancers can actually shake their booty like Brazilians or belly dancers, that is a firm ripe 19 year old tight near fat free bum actually wobbles. Serious international training and practice. It makes your tounge hang out when you see it done properly. Phuket has fewer '5's and belows in the bars. The fuglies migrate to massage shops. But 2000 for common BG ST, they can go jump, or 3000up for LT. Getme outa here. I think Christin's was 3500 Vs 1800 for Soi Honey. Rip off.
In Phuket you can find good Norwegian and Swedish meatball palaces for 280bt and up. As nothing was cheap, I decided to hit the busses. Airfare is high too. HJ there is more than Soi 6. But in the main strip, the shows and dancing was far better. Bar owners can work here, and the tuk tuk mafia can do as they please.
In Pattaya each beer bar in the halls seem to play their own music, whereas in Phuket, one track seems to be from the entertainment centre : This is better for the customers. But far less nudity in Phuket, or more hidden at the back of seadragon. Beers also more expensive.
Back in Pattaya, at LK metro, B-bong was booked out so
I tried the place across the road that was sold for a song. Greeted with 'I must F*k you. Barfine me now' before I crossed the threshold. Normally I do not go for a average chubby one. But the attitude screamed a dare. So I did. LT. But only after establishing LT meant LT. No sick buffalos and she wanted FUN, and not an act. Yes to all. At 300 bt and 1000 Lt I had nothing to loose. Or did I?
Ironed out my flight stresses straight away with the I fk you broad. But it was ordinary and detached, soul-less. No way was she a keeper. It had been a big act all along, and I had fallen sucker to a brash act. I needed a 'stunner' and to go on the prowl. For old times sake.
At LK Metro Stags Head? Had an medium attractive one. Homely but no visible tattoo's. Rainy and miserable. Worst business. Super SLOW.
Manager greeted me, good english and I explained what I wanted. One that is fun, straight sex only, and as a 48 yo an easy person for company. I also explained I offer low because of this, but tip if all is well. Firm but fair. But I want LT and not a runner. Bought a beer for both. How much? 2000ST+BF.
I countered 1500 LT, explaining my 'rules' and if I like you keep you few days as I just arrived, maybe tip more. Counter counter 1500 ST. Now it was late. 12PM'ish and VERY slow in LK.
Now I knew this gal needed a BF, I was an easy customer, but nooooo 1800 was the counter.
I said 'bill'. Manager was shocked, as if customers always 'cave' but I said look soapy on LK HOney is 1800 a sure thing. Soi 6 is close. I told you I was wise, but you missed the signals, but obviously, this one wants to gamble. Sometimes you loose. BTW Girl had no takers for next 3 nights.
So Girls at Pattaya bars, get ready for the 'take the offer' or I go. No negotiation. Up to you for a change. Oh do figure my age, at 48 my staying power and enjoyment is not the same as someone younger. Happy to walk, as I had a BF already.
In Windmill Pattaya, I saw just one capable of booty shaking, but it had no number on wrist or elsewhere, shorter hair, dyed awfully, and could be a LB. Just two other girls could achieve 70% tempo. The lesbian hair dragging and banging their heads into metal pillars with a thud, was good world wide wrestling acting, about the only place there that 'trains' its girls, and puts on variety.
After a wander to WS and back to reclaim my girl.
I felt my LT had transformed, and . There was coldness. I said am I going to enjoy morning and she said probably not. I said OK, go.
Note to new owner: First impressions matter hugely if staying at 'your place'. If the first is a dud, more barfines and lots of beer drinking vanish. That one girls attitude. Pump and dump poisioned. Her mates chances of being fined for the next 7 nights. Lucky the place at 550 night was value enough for me not to want to move. Nearly next to Devils Den.
In the next few nights, I did 'soapies' as they were sure fire successes, hassle free. And a bargain compared to HKT. My favorite young one in Soi Honey was promoted to a blue tag (red=1800) blue =2300. So Honey lost 70% of my business to the other soapies. Opposite LK metro, I found a massage place fairly opposite Sugar, for 800 all in, in case I still felt frisky before bed. Place was a dive, but emptyish, and one
Mature one. Knew how to revive exhaused members.
Wandering down soi Buk. I passed Pook bar a lot, but my LB senses said keep walking. Dunno if I was right to ignore this place.
At one of the big beer bar hall near the entrance of WS, couple of years ago 300BF and 1000 bt after 11 you had a huge selection. This year same number of girls but LT asking was 2000. WTF. These are 6'es. Maybe I have grown bigger and less handsome. 1500. No (I walk). Very confused. I guess it was contrived for pre-Christmas. Sorry. I don't play. Me walk.
Business was SOOO slow and crook then, I think someone said 'fireworks'. I think the fireworks on 15- 16-17 and extended walking street nights. Worked business up on the beach, and stripped customers from 2nd / 3rd road. Very lonely and depressing looking girls looking for customers. Well, one day they will figure out a 2 for one 'sale' is better than an empty nest with no 'orders'.
In conclusion Pattaya wins hand down. I do believe the girls are greedy, and not factoring in age, and nett demand and the GFC. Fine, Beach Road, Soi 6 and Soapys be it then, and the 22 year old studleys on Vitamin K can ram them raw. There are new customers in town wanting value.
As for Phuket, When I say price fixing, the local tuk tuk mafia actually shoot dead bus drivers, or sabotage brake lines. Maybe some of this rubs off on bar fines and negotiable rates. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUqcsGEO9IY. I could not figure out why so high, so I beat it to BKK and Annies. BKK was no fun, not cheap, so Pattaya was the solution.
Before leaving. I had a lot of money, unspent, mostly because WS joints had unrealistic expectations and because I think owners and girls were not adjusting to reality. Next time I hit Pattaya low season.
Pattaya Vs Phuket Trip Observations.
I ended up in Pattaya because Phuket is much more expensive (double?) and because of price fixing and because accommodation costs about double. Actually 3 days in HKT. 3 in BKK and 7 in Patts.Having read your exceedingly depressing report, with it's emphasis upon cost and expense above all else, it is apparent to me that you had no fun at all, but certainly do live up to your ISG handle. The girls you interacted with must have sensed that as well.
Pity.
Member #4698
01-23-12, 15:23
We moved on to Heaven Above Pattaya, and really enjoyed that place. The gals seemed to enjoy dancing, had fun with one another, and really appreciated a lady drink (once again, please keep your anti-lady drink and anti-barfine thoughts to yourself). The place was comfortable, the prices were not bad, and the music was good.
In my home in China there is a Chinese lady working in a department of my company that I rarely interact with, and therefore I rarely interact with her. However, I lust after her quite a bit. She is married and besides I do not fish off the company pier. When I saw that one of the dancers at Heaven Above was remarkably similar in appearance, I had to buy her a drink.
Bom was tiny and silly and full of energy. She spoke very little English and I could not even work out her age or where she came from. Se also could drink me under the table and was already half in the bag. Her favorite English phrase was "I like you," which she followed up with long, deep kisses and biting my neck. I was totally into the fantasy of getting with this colleague-proxy. However, I balked at the 600BF / 3000 LT fee, thinking she was great but maybe not quite worth that. The girl whose company my friend was enjoying refused to go home with him, pleading that she had to attend a karaoke birthday party later after work, but promised to go home with him for 2000LT if he came back the next night.
We chose to try Soi LK Metro next, and neither of us had timepieces so we did not realize just how late it was. Office a Go Go was disappointing, drained of energy, and on the verge of closing. It was 3 in the morning. We called it a night although we each went to bed alone. After all, tomorrow is another day.You are right. Tomorrow is another day, but IMHO you blew last night. You should have taken little Bom and had a memorable evening. If Walking Street prices are outside your budget, then go to Soi 7 & Soi 8. I think your friend's financial constraints is affecting you. My trip strategy is not to give a shit about prices, to pay up for quality, and enjoy things. I am not talking about overpaying, just paying the going rate for what I want when I want it. And 2000bt ST / 3000bt LT is the going rate these days in high end Walking Street Go Go's like Heaven's Above. Read Keeniu's depressing report below and judge for yourself if fighting the going price is worthwhile. Think about it, a 1000bt stood between you and fulfilling an office fantasy 3x over with a cute girl. Cut back on the Starbuck's overpriced coffee when you get back home and enjoy yourself in Pattaya. What is your money for, if not to have a good time.
Sexual Healing
01-23-12, 18:24
In soi 6 a girl sweetly announced that she wanted 1000. I declined and said that I'd love to take her upstairs, but 700 is OK. When she saw I wasn't going to get into a discussion, an older girl had a quick word with the first one, and the price dropped.When you take a Soi6 girl upstairs are you supposed to pay barfine as well as room rate?
So how much is going to be total damage for 1 shot: 300 + 300 +. Guess 700/1. 000?
I had almost the same experience on Soi 6 last December. I stopped for a beer at the queens hotel, (I think that is the name) and did some observing of the surrounding ladies. Across the street was Red Spot. I had been there before and knew the operation. So I soon spot what I thought would be interesting to try out. I go get her and bring her inside. Offer a drink and start to talk. Then I ask the magic question and she says yes. She then says she wants 1000 baht + 300 for the room. I said I was not new and that was a little high. She stuck to her offer and so, she lost her commission. No F#, no baht. So I moved on and found what I ws looking for at a reasonable rate.
I guess it should be a warning to those who visit soi 6 that the pricing of 700+300 might not be offered and accepted. Some how I thing she figured she could get the extra. Figured wrong.
Mr Enternational
01-24-12, 04:29
Manager greeted me, good english and I explained what I wanted. One that is fun, straight sex only, and as a 48 yo an easy person for company. I also explained I offer low because of this, but tip if all is well. Firm but fair. But I want LT and not a runner. Bought a beer for both. How much? 2000ST+BF.
In conclusion Pattaya wins hand down. I do believe the girls are greedy, and not factoring in age, and nett demand and the GFC.
Before leaving. I had a lot of money, unspent, mostly because WS joints had unrealistic expectations and because I think owners and girls were not adjusting to reality. Next time I hit Pattaya low season.Actually the girls ARE factoring in age. It's just that because you are 48 you are expecting them to charge you less than say a 25 year old. When in fact, because you are 48 they are charging you more than a 25 year old. If you think their prices are high now, wait until you reach 65. I think you were the one with the unrealistic expectations.
Secrets.
Someone reminded me of what happened there when I went in wasted one night. Not too long after sitting down I was accosted by a larger woman I had no interest in. But being a nice guy I bought her a drink. Then one for the foreigner manager bloke.
As an aside, I did this quite a few times, buying the managers a drink at bars in Pattaya. And it paid off in a drink back plus when there was a problem they were attentive. Especially when you go alone this works well.
Anyway, SECRETS, so a girl was brought forward and I was interested. She said something like 3500 LT and I said I needed to go to the ATM so off I went. When I got back she was more or less ready to go. Quite a bit of stuff was said in Thai and while I don't understand it I thought it was something about the LT being shortened without my knowledge. So I added a stipulation that if LT was shortened at all, and the agreed 10am departure changed, that I would pay a lot less. How much? 200 baht. WELL! Off this girl went to the other side of the bar.
Of course I learned this here. Many thanks to the crew!
Mr Enternational
01-24-12, 05:24
This quest took us down Soi 6 at about 2pm and it was just waking up. The gals were not nearly as aggressive as they had been when I had walked that Si on evenings in the past, but my buddy does not find aggressive girls entertaining so it all worked out fine.I have noticed this as well. I don't know what the hell happened. I only go Soi 6 to show new guys the scene and see how they react to it. But it is apparent that the girls do less shouting, running out, and grabbing as before. It's almost as if they have become civilized.
Actually the girls ARE factoring in age. It's just that because you are 48 you are expecting them to charge you less than say a 25 year old. When in fact, because you are 48 they are charging you more than a 25 year old. If you think their prices are high now, wait until you reach 65. I think you were the one with the unrealistic expectations.Actually, Mr. E, I'm 65 now and haven't noticed any price discrimination against older guys in Pattaya, especially in the go-go bars where the quality girls are found. They appreicate the more seasoned men who don't want to pound the shit out of them every half hour and generally treat them a lot better than younger men.
I don't go to Soi 6 very often because it's awfully difficult to spot a pretty face among the crowds of ordinary and even ugly girls, both old and young, but when I do go there, and find something satisfactory, I'm charged the same 700 baht + 300 for the room as anyone else.
I hope for your sake that you are lucky enough to make it to 65 like me. Believe me, you'll enjoy the girls even more.
Passingthru69
01-24-12, 07:36
Well I don't post much, but here is my take on prices from the ladies.
When I first came over here 10 years ago I came with a co / worker.
He was and still is tight with his money.
He would try for the cheapest rate. Then the ladies found out he wanted more things than she agreed to.
For the same rate.
Found out later he was kinda rough so to speak with them.
Word got out fast. The girls would jack up the rate on him.
Had some flat out say no. Their choice.
He got mad at me one night as the girl told him no, then proceeds to sit on my lap and whisper in my ear 1000 baht all night.
Damm he was mad the next morning when he saw her with having morning coffee.
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