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Phil Fogg88
05-22-12, 14:27
Hi,
I hope that it's OK to ask in this thread: I'd like to hear from those of you who live in Bang Saen or are very familiar with the scene here. I'm aware of the 2 big "entertainment" complexes in town but it's not really my style (not a soapie / bowl type of guy).
Are there massage places (or other types of venues for that matter) where they might cater and have in-house and (that'd be nice) take-out service? Week-ends I can go to Patts, and I know that whatever is there will be geared to a Thai clientele.
Any advice welcome.
Phil
Richard9429
05-22-12, 17:27
Hi,
I am coming to Pattaya next week. Does anyone know about guest policy at centara Pattaya hotel. Do they charge or allow overnight guests?Hi,
I have palns to go Pattaya on Sat. 26 May 12, from KL, M'sia. Unfortunately, my friend had to defer his trip, so I am thinking hard to go solo. Is it possible for me to tag along with you or yr team?
Anyway. Attention senior bros, Is it OK to go solo in Pattaya?
Appreciate senior bro's feedback.
Rgds.
Richard
Hi,
I have palns to go Pattaya on Sat. 26 May 12, from KL, M'sia. Unfortunately, my friend had to defer his trip, so I am thinking hard to go solo. Is it possible for me to tag along with you or yr team?
Anyway. Attention senior bros, Is it OK to go solo in Pattaya?
Appreciate senior bro's feedback.
Rgds.
RichardRichard,
I will be in Pattaya on the 31th for for around 8 days. This will be a solo trip for me also. If you are still there and need a wingman let me know.
Ej
I don't buy lady drinks. But if I was a lady drink buying type of guy then I would go your route and arrange for the girl to sit 15 minutes for 50 baht if I wanted company instead of paying for fake drinks. 15 minutes is 15 minutes, but a lady drink, whatever the contents, can disappear in the blink of an eye after which you will be solicited to buy more.Totally Agree! 300 bt is a daily 11-12 hour wage. I am not here to support bar owners being screwed by sky high rents (mostly Walking Street). If the lady feels 15 minute is too long pass. And thank your lucky stars you just avoided a starfish. Oh did I mention ex-pats get a MUCH lower price, and more 'service'. I'm afraid the secret is out. Gogo girls are 100% in it for the money.
And feelings rarely enter the equation. 40% of BF paid to the girl, usually, plus a LD 'Quota' that once exceeded, the girl will vanish unless she thinks you are a whale or a japan mark. Sucker.
LittleBigMan
05-24-12, 01:47
Totally Agree! 300 bt is a daily 11-12 hour wage. I am not here to support bar owners being screwed by sky high rents (mostly Walking Street). If the lady feels 15 minute is too long pass. And thank your lucky stars you just avoided a starfish. Oh did I mention ex-pats get a MUCH lower price, and more 'service'. I'm afraid the secret is out. Gogo girls are 100% in it for the money.
And feelings rarely enter the equation. 40% of BF paid to the girl, usually, plus a LD 'Quota' that once exceeded, the girl will vanish unless she thinks you are a whale or a japan mark. Sucker.Correction on your sarcasm, Expats do not get lower prices when it comes to Walking Street! My tab is the same as everyones whether they visit many times or just for a moment! What I might get being a frequent customer to a place is more consideration getting me a better seat or location to view the girls especially if it is pack. As for service I'm not exactly sure but my feeling and experience tells me that if they know you are a expat and frequent the place they are more incline to stay longer with you drinking instead of hit and run. They know we have all the time in the world and will come back. Of course from the beginning to the end it is about the money!
LBM
Mr Enternational
05-24-12, 02:48
Correction on your sarcasm, Expats do not get lower prices when it comes to Walking Street! My tab is the same as everyones whether they visit many times or just for a moment!I was about to say, if that was the case then me, Dark Vader, and Amex got screwed in Babydoll's last night. My Coke Zero was 85 baht and the pu ying that I brought to the club's water was 85 baht. I did sample Amex's dancer's whiskey and soda last night much to her objection: 2 drops of whiskey for coloring and a glass full of soda water. Tasted like shit. That guy was so damn funny. He introduced himself to the girl shaking her hand and saying,"Hi, I'm Cheap Charlie."
Correction on your sarcasm, Expats do not get lower prices when it comes to Walking Street! My tab is the same as everyones whether they visit many times or just for a moment!I think the statement was referring more towards the price for sex.
Do expats get cheaper sex than the regular tourist? Well, if he is a smart cunning expat, then "yes". If he pays 2k ST, then it's obvious he is not very smart or cunning.
Thais really don't give a shit if you're an expat or not, contrary to popular belief. They only care about how much you spend! It's just that MOST expats are able to play the "game" better than the rookies, thus getting better prices.
I think the statement was referring more towards the price for sex.
Do expats get cheaper sex than the regular tourist? Well, if he is a smart cunning expat, then "yes". If he pays 2k ST, then it's obvious he is not very smart or cunning.
Thais really don't give a shit if you're an expat or not, contrary to popular belief. They only care about how much you spend! It's just that MOST expats are able to play the "game" better than the rookies, thus getting better prices.And I have always found being able to speak enough Thai and Issan helps in getting them to bed for a reasonable price and time.
LittleBigMan
05-24-12, 14:16
I think the statement was referring more towards the price for sex.
Do expats get cheaper sex than the regular tourist? Well, if he is a smart cunning expat, then "yes". If he pays 2k ST, then it's obvious he is not very smart or cunning.
Thais really don't give a shit if you're an expat or not, contrary to popular belief. They only care about how much you spend! It's just that MOST expats are able to play the "game" better than the rookies, thus getting better prices.Sorry I beg to differ! My response to the quote was a continuing conversation regarding LD particularly at GoGos on WS. Most of his post one can clearly see the references to the time one spends if a LD was purchased only with the reference with WS.
So its is about the drink then a reference is followed regarding sex " starfish " performance.
I might be wrong here though? But I perceived his remarks regarding Expats lower prices and more services as sarcasm to those who freguent the dabate that those just visiting are paying too much. I don't care one way or another but the label of " price police " comes to mind and not saying your are wrong but that phrase comes to mind whenever you post?
When you say they don't give a shit I beg to differ there too? Some do! That is why questions like " where you from, how long you stay, and is this your first time here " they are playing their games that is why you yourself need to play the game " better than the rookies "! The conversation was about LD, and service being provided in GoGos, and it is common knowledge that most of these places the girls ask for 2000ST / 3000LT, and rarely move from that range and if a Expat or anyone can get them for less I say more power to them. They do give a shit how much you spend and a smart girl wouldn't put all her eggs into one basket and work on just tourist a smart one knows her regular customers who might not BF them but buy them a drink knowing they just want some company and a cheap feel to up their egos and then off to the next gogo! I have seen many regulars that come into gogos and sit and have a great time. The girls know who they are and play along to get their drinks knowing there isn't any barfine in the guy but happy to get the drink. If they didn't give a shit there wouldn't be a game for us to learn? We are talking about WS, you have expanded the conversation to freelancers outside of this area?
LBM
When you say they don't give a shit I beg to differ there too? Some do! That is why questions like " where you from, how long you stay, and is this your first time here " they are playing their games that is why you yourself need to play the game " better than the rookies "!
LBMYes, you are correct.
What I meant by my statement is that they don't necessarily "like" expats more outside of the financial transaction (they may put on an act like they do only to foster more transactions). You're still an atm machine to them whether you live in LOS or just visited for the first time.
Member #4387
05-24-12, 16:36
This mongering trip I have mostly been in Bangkok but choosed to head down for Pattaya (so I can say: been there, done that!) 1 day.
My goal was to compare Insomnia Pattaya to Insomnia Bangkok and to see if the VIP card (from Bangkok Ins.) was as useless as it is in BKK.
Enough about the "VIP" card. Insomnia Pattaya (in my country some fellow countrymen call Pattaya Pattis, hehe) was great. When I say great I talk about the girls. I have never, except from some events in Bed and Supper and in some Hi So clubs in RCA area, seen so much quality material. I was to confused to choose myself (normaly I do) so I ask the staff, after buying a bottle with vodka (absolute) , to go get me some company. They ofcourse arrived back with Insomnia staff girls (having to dance every 30 minutes. But eventually they will come back to your place). I turned them down. Then I saw this stunner standing some 10 mts from me smiling and I smiled back and waved her in. Her name was "One" (hehe don't give a shit actually but she told me so).165cm nice skin and a great body with not to big fake boobs.
This freelancelady I would recommend. Not for cheap charlies (but I choosed to give her good taxicompensation when she head back home next afternoon) I hope. She diserves better. We had great time and me having been to some (not many) GG past years she is the best I`ve both seen and done so far in Asia. Except my GF in Norway ofcourse also from Asia (hehe). I am sorry to say she was not in photoshootmood but she did everything else (also a little backdoorentrance).
She did not mind go bareback but I did not. Better keep safe (yeah yeah I know what some are going to say now).
Wow
LittleBigMan
05-24-12, 16:38
Yes, you are correct.
What I meant by my statement is that they don't necessarily "like" expats more outside of the financial transaction (they may put on an act like they do only to foster more transactions). You're still an atm machine to them whether you live in LOS or just visited for the first time.Your got that right! We are ATMs for sure I usually tell the girls this machine only dispense in bed.
LBM
Oh no, the "Colours of the East" festival will this year be 2-5 August, when I'm in Pattaya. All of Beach Road will be full with stands well into the night. No FL action.
Krypto Knight
05-25-12, 20:19
Hi,
I have palns to go Pattaya on Sat. 26 May 12, from KL, M'sia. Unfortunately, my friend had to defer his trip, so I am thinking hard to go solo. Is it possible for me to tag along with you or yr team?
Anyway. Attention senior bros, Is it OK to go solo in Pattaya?
Appreciate senior bro's feedback.
Rgds.
RichardI've been 11 times. Except for once with my brother and once with a friend, I have always gone solo. Not only is it OK, it's a great way to roll. No worrying about when you barfine, what obligations you have to another person etc. You are free to do as you please when you please. There are plenty of other guys there who are also solo so if you are looking for company it's easy enough to find it.
Oldbuthappy
05-26-12, 01:52
I am 77 years old. I visit Pattaya twice a year. Alone, but not for long. Never have any problem.
Anyway. Attention senior bros, Is it OK to go solo in Pattaya?
Appreciate senior bro's feedback.
Rgds.
Richard[/QUOTE]
Wolvenvacht
05-26-12, 08:13
Attention senior bros, Is it OK to go solo in Pattaya?Going solo in Pattaya is a terrible waste! I always make sure I have a girl on my hands (and other body parts) as soon as possible.
I am 77 years old. I visit Pattaya twice a year. Alone, but not for long. Never have any problem.
Anyway. Attention senior bros, Is it OK to go solo in Pattaya?
Appreciate senior bro's feedback.
Rgds.
RichardWay to go mate. Why would you want to be in the company of another man, the opposition. No men allowed, LOL. More fun, just you and the girls.
Oh no, the "Colours of the East" festival will this year be 2-5 August, when I'm in Pattaya. All of Beach Road will be full with stands well into the night. No FL action.Agree. What a waste of time. Unfortunately, it crosses over my trip, not happy.
I am 77 years old. I visit Pattaya twice a year. Alone, but not for long. Never have any problem.
Anyway. Attention senior bros, Is it OK to go solo in Pattaya?
Appreciate senior bro's feedback.
Rgds.
RichardYou deserve an award for being in the game at this age, hope I am in it when I reach your age. Lots of solo travelers in Pats, stay alert and you should be ok, enjoy it.
Oh no, the "Colours of the East" festival will this year be 2-5 August, when I'm in Pattaya. All of Beach Road will be full with stands well into the night. No FL action.FLs will still be there blending in with the crowd and will also be on WS and other areas.
NicFrenchy
05-26-12, 13:29
Anyway. Attention senior bros, Is it OK to go solo in Pattaya?Pattaya or Bangkok are cities where it's perfectly fine to go Solo.
Even if you go to some bars, there are always guys there you can buy drinks to and talk. I personally am not a fan of Bars, but I usually prefer going Solo.
Member #4387
05-26-12, 15:18
As for me I go 40/60 wingman / solo. Important for me is that the wingman and me have the same ideology. For me and him it is no problem because we have lived together for many years when studying and now live close to eachother in same city so we totaly agree in the scheduel when going to in my case almost all the time to Bangkok (we don't have an scheduel and that is what we like, hehe). We have a diff taste in women and that comes in handy (no fighting over the same girl) too. Sometimes we even just split up in the evening. And sometimes we do 3somes with DP (if we should like the same girl and she is willing. We mostly pick up girls like that from Beergarden during daytime)
But Solo is no problem and ofcourse the most "free" setting. I guess for all ages.
I prefer to fly solo when I'm on the prowl. There is nothing more tedious than the endless disputes among punters regarding itinerary. If I'm not enjoying this bar or that go-go I want to move along soonest, and I'm not interested in debating the issue with my mates. (Especially that one guy who's fallen in "lub" with the girl on his lap and who insists I stay and entertain her fat friend.)
Moreover I'm in my mid-50s now, and the hard-drinking, hair-on-fire, party-till-dawn thing just isn't my style anymore. Sincerely no offense to other gents who prefer to go big or go home. But it's just not for me these days. I've also noticed that when punters go beyond having a wing man and form into groups there is sometimes a bit of a mob mentality, and that causes them to do things that are in my estimation rather loutish. Again, I'm not calling anybody out. After all, the entire idea of a holiday in Pattaya is to do things that one cannot do at home. But my personal idea of a good time is rather more restrained, and standing off to the side while my buds act like ugly farangs is not my cup of tea.
During the day, however, when I'm chilling here or there and killing time before the sun goes down and the fun starts anew, I very much enjoy meeting the other chaps in town. Not so much the lager louts (although those guys are usually harmless) but the guys who have lives very different from mine. I never get tired of sharing a drink or a meal with them, talking about a million different things. After all, a man can only spend so much time thinking with his little head. Once in awhile he needs to exercise the big head.
Bunky
Mr Enternational
05-28-12, 06:44
I would say it all depends. More than likely if you had a random wingman then it would probably suck. But if you already know the wingman and you are regular hangout buddies and share the same likes as far as venues are concerned then it could be a good thing. It gives you someone to share your memories with who will understand exactly what you are talking about. If you have more than one wingman it will be like herding cats and you will waste a lot of valuable time. On the other hand if you are alone then you do what the fuck you want to do when the fuck you want to do it and don't have to take anyone else into consideration. Freedom.
On the other hand if you are alone then you do what the fuck you want to do when the fuck you want to do it and don't have to take anyone else into consideration. Freedom.Freedom is the way to go! Any if you were ever in the military, the word "Wing Man" is a reference to a stupid movie. The real term is "Running Mate." Someone that is equal to you, and as equal as you.
Member #4698
05-28-12, 20:36
Freedom is the way to go! Any if you were ever in the military, the word "Wing Man" is a reference to a stupid movie. The real term is "Running Mate." Someone that is equal to you, and as equal as you.Did you ever see the movie Sleep with Me? In the party scene, the Quentin Tarantino character gives his hilarious spin on Top Gun. Here is the complete Tarantino monologe from Sleep with Me:
Tarantino: "What is Top Gun? You think it's a story about a bunch of fighter pilots. It is a story about a man's struggle with his own homosexuality. It is! That is what Top Gun is about, man. You've got Maverick, all right? He's on the edge, man. He's right on the fucking line, all right? And you've got Iceman, and all his crew. They're gay, they represent the gay man, all right? And they're saying, go, go the gay way, go the gay way. He could go both ways.
Kelly McGillis, she's heterosexuality. She's saying: No, no, no, no, no, no, go the normal way, play by the rules, go the normal way. They're saying no, go the gay way, be the gay way, go for the gay way, all right? That is what's going on throughout that whole movie... He goes to her house, all right? It looks like they're going to have sex, you know, they're just kind of sitting back, he's takin' a shower and everything. They don't have sex. He gets on the motorcycle, drives away. She's like, "What the fuck, what the fuck is going on here?"
Next scene, next scene you see her, she's in the elevator, she is dressed like a guy. She's got the cap on, she's got the aviator glasses, she's wearing the same jacket that the Iceman wears. She is, okay, this is how I gotta get this guy, this guy's going towards the gay way, I gotta bring him back, I gotta bring him back from the gay way, so I'll do that through subterfuge, I'm gonna dress like a man. All right? That is how she approaches it.
All right, but the REAL ending of the movie is when they fight the MIGs at the end, all right? Because he has passed over into the gay way. They are this gay fighting fucking force, all right? And they're beating the Russians, the gays are beating the Russians. And it's over, and they fucking land, and Iceman's been trying to get Maverick the entire time, and finally, he's got him, all right? And what is the last fucking line that they have together? They're all hugging and kissing and happy with each other, and Ice comes up to Maverick, and he says, "Man, you can ride my tail, anytime!" And what does Maverick say? "You can ride mine!" Swordfight! Swordfight! Fuckin' A, man!"
Funny Stuff !
I have gone on mongering trips with friends and solo. Both ways have their virtues, but I prefer going solo. The girls are all the company I really need or want. No discusion over where to go or when to go. You do what you want when you want to do it. Now if I were going on a scuba dive trip or a trek in the Himalayas, that is another story and a couple of good friends along for the adventure are essential.
The Windex Man
05-29-12, 04:18
there are so many options and i just keep going back and forth, concerning what i should do on my first trip to thailand.
two puzzling options for me are below:
(1) being that it's my first time, is it smart or not smart to do my entire 3 weeks in pattaya or being that it's my first time to thailand, will i probably be upset with myself if i don't spend a few days in bangkok before my trip back to pattaya? i've done the research and i see that bangkok has some stuff going on that i would be into, but it also seems that pattaya has the same things, so maybe i won't actually miss out if i do the full 3 weeks in pattaya and skip bangkok, but i don't know, because i've never been. knowing my personality, i'm not going to be into the beer bar stuff (i don't drink) or the massage stuff, i'll be more into the go-go's, discos, and bj bars. not a baller. one of the reasons that helped me make the decision to give thailand a shot (besides liking asian women. marry me lucy thai) was the lower prices.
(2) my apartment in pattaya is going to be in soi lk metro; however, i know that as a rookie, i will also be spending probably a lot of time on walking street. if i did the entire 3 weeks in pattaya, is it a mistake for a rookie to stay in the same hotel the entire time or is it a smarter strategy to reserve a couple of weeks at one spot and another week in the walking street area. that question comes up because i'm not sure if transportation to walking street from lk metro is going to be very convenient or if it will start to get costly. same for women. is it going to get costly when occasionally bringing girls from walking street area to soi lk metro, then having to pay to send them back? i'm sure as a rookie, i'll be spending at least half my time on walking street as i am a fan of the discos. however, because i am also laid back and because i strongly wanted to be in the area of [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and the devil's den, i got an apt in soi lk metro.
yes, i know it's my vacation and i can set this up anyway i want, but i keep going back and forth so much, i just want to ask those of you who used to be rookies what you did on your first trip and if there were any regrets. if you could have set up the trip differently, would you have?
i'm doing this trip as if i'll never return to thailand, because the truth of the matter is that this may be my first and only trip, so my perfectionist mindset (which i really hate sometimes. took me more than a month to decide on an apt) is trying my best to set this thing up correctly and i have no one in my area to bounce this off of and i am coming solo. i truly feel that i am overthinking this.
vacation doesn't start till november, so i have time. thanks for any advice.
Member #4698
05-29-12, 05:52
1. Being that it's my first time, is it smart or not smart to do my entire 3 weeks in Pattaya or being that it's my first time to Thailand, will I probably be upset with myself if I don't spend a few days in Bangkok before my trip back to Pattaya? Took me more than a month to decide on an apt) is trying my best to set this thing up correctly and I have no one in my area to bounce this off of and I am coming SOLO. I truly feel that I am overthinking this.I strongly recommend that you spend at least a week in Bangkok. Personally I prefer to spend only 5 or 6 days in Pattaya at one time. It is a great place, but it can get old fast if you stay too long. BKK is a major city. I never get bored or run out of things to do in the big mango. So my advice, dependant on your arrival in LOS before 6pm, is to take a taxi or Mr. Keuk's car service straight to Pattaya from the airport. Once you arrive in Pat, relax, get your dick wet, get to know Thai girls and then finish your trip, the last week to ten days in Bangkok.
On your apartment option; all I can say is "its up to you." Soi LK Metro is a fine area to hang your hat. It is walking distance to Walking Street and there is always cheap local transport and motorcycle taxis to take you back and forth in case you are in a hurry, lazy, or with a girl. There is no downside to staying in Soi LK Metro and picking up girls from Walking Street. Besides, there are some interesting places to check out right there on LK Metro. Changing apartments or hotels might not be a bad idea, however, if only because it will break things up for you if you decide to stay in Pat for 2 or 3 weeks.
Yes, you are over thinking things a tad, but that is all right. You are going to have a great time no matter what you decide. The important decision was to come to LOS and after your trip, you will think it was one of the best moves you ever made.
There are so many options and I just keep going back and forth, concerning what I should do on my first trip to Thailand.I prefer Pattaya because of the low prices and laid back atmosphere. There is plenty to do here besides chasing pussy.
My advice is to spend your first few days in Bangkok then move on to Pattaya. If you don't like Pattaya or get tired of it, you can spend your last few days in Bangkok which is closer to the airport.
I'm sure you'll have a great time in both places.
Enjoy!
I agree with Daddy. You don't have to choose, the cities are very close to each other. After your long flight, get some rest in Bangkok for a few days and see if you like it. Then go to Pat and you can always come back to the capital if you don't like that. Personally I think BKK is much better.
Wolvenvacht
05-29-12, 07:09
There are so many options and I just keep going back and forth, concerning what I should do on my first trip to Thailand.Three weeks in Pattaya is too much. There is so much to see in Thailand and if this will ever be your only trip to the Land of Smiles, then you should really do something else besides hunting pussy.
Going to Pattaya first is not a bad idea. It is very laid back and girls are everywhere. Even if you are not into drinking (neither am I) , you can still go to a beerbar and drink soda or soft drinks. These are really nice places to pick someone up. It is my experience that I got better service from bar-girls than from agogo girls in Pattaya. In Bangkok it was the other way around.
But after two weeks, you will tire of Pattaya. There are many things to see in and around Pattaya, but as this is your first trip, it will be a challenge to organise the logistics to visit some places outside Pattaya. Unless of course you "charter" yourself a nice companion during daytime as well. Last month I stayed two weeks in Jomtien (the "family beach area" of Pattaya) with my Thai girlfriend and we have been touring outside of Pattaya and really saw some nice places (Buddha on the mountain, temples, dolphin show, big aquarium, floating market, Mini Siam, Nong Nooch garden, ...) I would never have been able to go to on my own. So get yourself someone to show you the places outside of Pattaya during the day (and show you *her* nice places during the night).
Finish your trip in Bangkok. Get yourself a hotel or serviced apartment near Soi Cowboy or Nana, so you are close to the action. I always stay at Citadines in Sukhumvit Soi 23. Walking distance to Soi Cowboy and one stop on the skytrain to Nana.
There is so much to see during the day in Bangkok. Great musea, the grand palace, the river, the markets, the shopping malls, ... It would be a pity to miss this.
Pointy Stick
05-29-12, 10:53
there are so many options and i just keep going back and forth, concerning what i should do on my first trip to thailand.i would have spent a week in pattaya for the simple reason of acclimatising to the scene and the weather in general and because it is so much more concentrated there than in bangkok. fit as much into that week as possible i. e. soi 6 / bj bar ([CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) in lk metro) in the day with gogos at night and then go to bangkok. the heat can be exhausting and its good to have options at your door step without much effort on your part.
at this point keep it open ended because you may or may not like bangkok and while it has more options its harder to get around the first time and more pricer. however there are a lot a non-mongering things to do such as visiting the grand palace, chilling with monks or getting getting drunk in kao san or whatever. this may be a good opportunity to take some pics and do pretend to do the innocent tourist thing to prove to friends and family that your visit wasn't mongering orientated. it would be a good idea to try everything from the nana parking lot, thermae, dr bj's / sol, soapies and eden at least one.
i would end my vacation from pattaya unless you want to hit the malls. this is a direct bus from the airport via bell travel and in my opinion its a lot easier than getting there from bangkok. i believe the key is to be flexible on your first visit and just go with the flow. a hotel is a hotel and you should focus on whats important. the girls.
i have a three week holiday coming up but i will spend most of the time in pattaya but i'm planning to go up country a little to explore while exploring more high end option in bangkok. i still have a lot to learn even after 6 visits.
LittleBigMan
05-29-12, 12:02
Windex Man,
Based on the information you provided and to let you know this question has been ask plenty of times before you. I would recommend the following as I have done in the past which has worked out for many in the past based on your 3 weeks visit and the information that this might be your one and only time.
Since Bangkok is closer to the airport and it is the capital of Thailand you certainly don't want to leave without ever seeing it? So go to Bangkok first and maybe stay at Livingstone lodge depending on your budget? (for information go to his thread Giotto) I will get back to his place later. Plan on staying maybe 5-7 days and then take a private car or bus to Pattaya for another 5-7 days.
Where you are staying has action of its own. From the Metro Apartments you can walk around 2 blocks (Blocks in America same as Soi's) to beach road and then catch a 10 baht Songthaw bus to Walking Street or you can walk shortcut towards Second road through Soi 13/4 to Walking St. As for taking girls back to your place no problem for any girl from Walking street. You can also go to the LK Metro Thread to get more infomation on this area.
Now after visiting both places can make a determination as to how long you want to stay in Pattaya or to whether go back to Bangkok. Since you are coming in Novermber high season you might not have the flexibility of moving around from hotel to hotel in either location. If you do stay at Livingstone you might have some flexibility to return at the last minute without having to deal with the language problem trying to book a stay for the rest of your trip.
This is what I normally tell people whether they come back or not. Go to BKK first, then Pattaya and then decide?
Good luck, LBM
Mr Enternational
05-29-12, 15:53
I went to Beach Road last night about 1:30. There were a few women out but only 1 possible for me, and she seemed a little high or something. The cops had rounded up all the ladyboys and was making them sit quietly on Soi 13 until the pickup truck arrived. I watched another ladyboy, who didn't appear to be trying to pick anyone up, walk down the street (opposite from the beach) with a type of shopping bag in hand. He made a right on Soi 13 and BAM. The cop said sit your ass down along with all of the other ones. Talk about being in the wrong place at the wrong time. And what stops them from running off? Surely one cop couldn't catch 15 people if they all decided to walk off at the same time. I'm not sure why the cops were only targeting that particular subgroup last night and did not bother the females at all.
There are so many options and I just keep going back and forth, concerning what I should do on my first trip to Thailand.Do a week each in BKK, Pattaya and Phuket. BKK for culture / big city experience, Pattaya for night life and Phuket for the beaches / bitches. 555.
You'll be coming in high season so book your hotel and flights in advance. Do as much research as you can. Have fun and stay out of trouble (drugs and jet skis). You'll have a blast.
Mal
Mr Enternational
05-29-12, 16:11
At 2am I decided to go to the disco to pick up a 1000 baht LT. I parked in the lot right before getting to Walking Street. A girl came and sat on the bike next to mine. I thought she was about to solicit me, but as I got off my bike she said,"Twenty baht" for parking. I laughed and told her,"Mai dai." My cousin said that a guy asked him for 20 baht one day to park there. He b*tched the guy out because he had watched as a number of Thais parked in the same place and they had not given the guy any money. My cousin told him that as soon as the Thais started paying then he would pay.
I walked down to Lucifer and watched the last 5 minutes of the ass shaking contest. They usually have a bottle of Chivas or champagne for the winner, but this time the lucky girl went home with 1000 baht. They announced that next week's prize would be 2000 baht. A group of girls came in and one pulled me over to talk to her friend. She was just my type. I took her back to the front so we could talk with a little less noise. I asked her to come with me but she said her friend was leaving the next day so she wanted to hang out. We exchanged numbers and I took her picture with my phone so I could put the face with the phone number. I told her that I would like to see her the following day and she agreed. But when I called her this afternoon she said she was in Bangkok and would not return until Sunday. No good for me. I have a girl coming to see me from Japan from Saturday until Wednesday.
I returned to the back of the disco and another chick pulled me over to the side. She danced behind me while reaching around holding my dick through my pants nonstop for 3 songs in a row. Of course I protected the contents of my pockets the entire time. I broke off with intentions to finish my hunt. However right next to that group was another girl who I always see in the disco and we always speak to each other. She is tall, thin, light-skinned, and has braces. I had no idea what her name was but I decided that tonight just may be her night.
Mr Enternational
05-29-12, 17:17
wiki describes a six sigma process as "one in which 99.99966% of the products manufactured are statistically expected to be free of defects (3.4 defects per million)." this is the same science that i have put to my disco mongering pick up game. the girls are used to seeing me and know that i live here. they have heard nothing bad about me. they come with me and we have a good time and i give them 1000 baht the next day and everyone leaves happy. so far it is been virtually flawless. but what about the .00034% that contain a defect? well i found that out last night.
i sat with the light skinned girl with the braces for about 5 minutes then i told her let's go. we walked down the street with her walking behind me. she stopped at a sushi stand and picked out some food while i stood about 10 meters away. she came and asked me for 100 baht to pay for her food. i obliged. we started back walking and she asked what i wanted. i said nothing. she said that if i wanted something then she would pay for it no problem. i told her no. before we made it to my bike i did decide to stop in mcdonald's and get some chicken nuggets. after i placed my order she placed an order with another cashier that came up to 178 baht. she gave the cashier 200 baht and when she tried to give her the change back she declined. the cashier put the 22 baht into the container for needy kids or whatever. i didn't quite understand it. she just got 100 baht worth of sushi and now she is buying more food at mcdonald's. oh well she is a grown ass lady so i guess she knows what she is doing. we got on my bike and went home.
i called my cousin's room from downstairs before i came into the building because i had to tell him something. we went up to my room and started eating and my cousin showed up 5 minutes later. the girl was sitting on the bed with her food on the nightstand. she put one of her feet on my couch which is covered by a brown sheet. i saw how dirty her feet were on the bottom and the spot she was making on the sheet. i told her not to do it and to go wash her feet. she didn't pay me any attention. i carried on talking to my cousin until i finished eating then i went to sit on the bed with the girl. i repeatedly told her to go take a shower but she ignored me. i thought that maybe she didn't want to do it with my cousin around. she got under the covers with all her clothes on and her dirty ass feet. i was having a fit inside thinking what the hell is she doing to my clean sheets. my cousin finally left.
i told the girl to go ahead and take a shower. she just said,"up to me," but didn't budge. i pulled all her clothes off and told her to go ahead. again she said,"up to me." i said look go ahead and take a shower so we can get this show on the road. she said you are not my daddy or my mother. i said yes but this is my room so you need to go take a shower or get out. she said okay i go home; give me money. i said money for what, you have not done anything. it was late and i didn't want to deal with bullshit. i did some shit that i would never do. i pulled out 500 baht and said put your clothes on and leave. she said what is that. i showed her. she laughed and said 500 baht? you can fuck my toe for that. you can go fuck a dog or something. then she started kneeing me and hitting me. i pushed her off the bed and told her to put her clothes on and get out. she walked around to the foot of the bed and gave my flat screen tv a bruce lee side kick. all i could remember after that was dragging her naked ass out into the hallway, locking the door, gathering up her things, and throwing them out into the hall with her. i called my cousin's room and told him to call security.
it was about 4:30am. the girl started kicking my door and shouting waking up all the neighbors. the guy who manages the building heard the commotion up on the fifth floor (i stay on the third) and came down to talk to the girl. i was looking out of the peephole. she was telling him that i fucked her and didn't give her any money. he knows for a fact that i have damn near a different person here everyday and have never caused any problems in the building. he told her to get out or he would call the police. my cousin came to my room and said that i needed to come downstairs to meet with the manager and the girl. i went down but there was only the security guard and the girl there. i got in a shouting match with the girl, in which i purposely made her admit in front of security to kicking my tv. she kept telling me to give her 500 baht so she could go home. was this the same 500 baht that i offered her earlier that she scoffed at? that offer was off the table immediately after my tv was kicked. i told her that she needed to be giving me 10000 baht for my tv.
she said there was no damage to the tv and the security guard could go look at it. admittedly there was no damage; probably due to the fact that the tv sits about 6 inches in front of the wall and there are cables behind it at the base. so when she kicked it near the top it merely pushed the top toward the wall making the tv slant against the wall.
she kept telling me that if i didn't have any money then i needed to go back to my country. she even said she would buy me a plane ticket. eventually i realized that the shouting back and forth was getting me nowhere so i decided to shut down and give her the silent treatment. she continued her rant while i just stared at her making her even more frustrated. she kept telling me to give her 500 baht so she could go home. she got so frustrated that she started hitting my legs and tugging on the cargo pockets of my shorts. it looked like the manager was not coming back. my cousin said he was going to his room and i followed him. she tried to follow me through the security door but i was able to push her back and pull the door closed.
me and my cousin went up to my room and talked about what had happened. he said,"man you must have choked her or something because it was all red around her neck." i thought about it and said,"you know what? i damn sure did. i completely forgot about it. right after she kicked that tv i threw her on the bed and got on top of her and started choking the shit out of her. then i dragged her ass out into the hall."
this just goes to show that no method is 100% foolproof and every now and then the tightest mongering system will experience kinks. i just hope not to have an incident of this caliber for a long time to come.
I just hope not to have an incident of this caliber for a long time to come.If you stay away from the hardened pros then you should be fine. Unfortunatley, the discos are loaded with these types.
Wiki describes a Six Sigma process.Mr E you are doing the right stuff! Big inspiration for future generations! Myself I plan to head down to Pattaya pretty soon later in June. I hope the place is in reasonably good shape then. The plan is to fuck or learn MT.
The Windex Man
05-29-12, 21:39
You guys kick ass!
Appreciate the feedback and because of it, I'm absolutely adding a trip to Bangkok, instead of doing all 3 weeks in Pattaya. It's just a matter of whether to do it at the beginning, at the end, or somewhere in the middle (I see benefits in each scenario) , but the bottom line is that I will go there as well.
Also great to hear that I did pick a good area (soi LK Metro) and that it is walking distance to Walking street. If by myself, I plan to walk the route. If I pick up a young lady from that area, I'll take transportation.
P. S. Great point mentioning that just because I don't drink, it doesn't mean that I shouldn't hang at the beer bar. I'm sure I'm not the first person to drink orange juice at a beer bar. Sometimes my brain cells just don't function well. LOL.
Again thanks, it helped a lot and yes, this rookie will be writing a full report once I return.
You guys kick ass! Appreciate the feedback and because of it, I'm absolutely adding a trip to Bangkok, instead of doing all 3 weeks in Pattaya. It's just a matter of whether to do it at the beginning, at the end, or somewhere in the middle (I see benefits in each scenario) , but the bottom line is that I will go there as well.I would start in BKK and learn the ropes there, go Pattaya and back to BKK after the learninh and experiences
This just goes to show that no method is 100% foolproof and every now and then the tightest mongering system will experience kinks. I just hope not to have an incident of this caliber for a long time to come.Dude! That is totally fucked up! I think that you should take their picture before you allow them in your place. Then at least you can post a picture of the b@tch So the rest of us steer clear. That's what I did with that one that grabbed my cell phones and threaten to smash them, and she was also looking the laptop as well. Here she is again in case someone runs into this crazy b@tch!
This just goes to show that no method is 100% foolproof and every now and then the tightest mongering system will experience kinks. I just hope not to have an incident of this caliber for a long time to come.It must have been the sushi. That shit just doesn't mix well with McDonalds.
dude, wouldn't it just be easier to pay! my favorite mongering quote: "you don't pay them for sex, you pay them to leave." frankly, i would rather pay for a smoking hot bargirl w / o drama any time. so what if you pay.
i've mongered in phils and thailand for 10 years. never ever had a problem.
and by the way, lucky it didn't turn out worse. not saying it's right, but here in the us you would be in jail for the choking, regardless of what the chick did. i don't know tl as well as phils but could be a problem in phils also. girl calls police, choke marks, enrichment opportunity for everyone but you.
big fun
wiki describes a six sigma process asd "one in which 99. 99966% of the products manufactured are statistically expected to be free of defects (3. 4 defects per million)." this is the same science that i have put to my disco mongering pick up game. the girls are used to seeing me and know that i live here. they have heard nothing bad about me. they come with me and we have a good time and i give them 1000 baht the next day and everyone leaves happy. so far it is been virtually flawless. but what about the. 00034% that contain a defect? well i found that out last night.
i sat with the light skinned girl with the braces for about 5 minutes then i told her let's go. we walked down the street with her walking behind me. she stopped at a sushi stand and picked out some food while i stood about 10 meters away. she came and asked me for 100 baht to pay for her food. i obliged. we started back walking and she asked what i wanted. i said nothing. she said that if i wanted something then she would pay for it no problem. i told her no. before we made it to my bike i did decide to stop in mcdonald's and get some chicken nuggets. after i placed my order she placed an order with another cashier that came up to 178 baht. she gave the cashier 200 baht and when she tried to give her the change back she declined. the cashier put the 22 baht into the container for needy kids or whatever. i didn't quite understand it. she just got 100 baht worth of sushi and now she is buying more food at mcdonald's. oh well she is a grown ass lady so i guess she knows what she is doing. we got on my bike and went home.
i called my cousin's room from downstairs before i came into the building because i had to tell him something. we went up to my room and started eating and my cousin showed up 5 minutes later. the girl was sitting on the bed with her food on the nightstand. she put one of her feet on my couch which is covered by a brown sheet. i saw how dirty her feet were on the bottom and the spot she was making on the sheet. i told her not to do it and to go wash her feet. she didn't pay me any attention. i carried on talking to my cousin until i finished eating then i went to sit on the bed with the girl. i repeatedly told her to go take a shower but she ignored me. i thought that maybe she didn't want to do it with my cousin around. she got under the covers with all her clothes on and her dirty ass feet. i was having a fit inside thinking what the hell is she doing to my clean sheets. my cousin finally left.
i told the girl to go ahead and take a shower. she just said,"up to me," but didn't budge. i pulled all her clothes off and told her to go ahead. again she said,"up to me." i said look go ahead and take a shower so we can get this show on the road. she said you are not my daddy or my mother. i said yes but this is my room so you need to go take a shower or get out. she said okay i go home; give me money. i said money for what, you have not done anything. it was late and i didn't want to deal with bullshit. i did some shit that i would never do. i pulled out 500 baht and said put your clothes on and leave. she said what is that. i showed her. she laughed and said 500 baht? you can fuck my toe for that. you can go fuck a dog or something. then she started kneeing me and hitting me. i pushed her off the bed and told her to put her clothes on and get out. she walked around to the foot of the bed and gave my flat screen tv a bruce lee side kick. all i could remember after that was dragging her naked ass out into the hallway, locking the door, gathering up her things, and throwing them out into the hall with her. i called my cousin's room and told him to call security.
it was about 4:30am. the girl started kicking my door and shouting waking up all the neighbors. the guy who manages the building heard the commotion up on the fifth floor (i stay on the third) and came down to talk to the girl. i was looking out of the peephole. she was telling him that i fucked her and didn't give her any money. he knows for a fact that i have damn near a different person here everyday and have never caused any problems in the building. he told her to get out or he would call the police. my cousin came to my room and said that i needed to come downstairs to meet with the manager and the girl. i went down but there was only the security guard and the girl there. i got in a shouting match with the girl, in which i purposely made her admit in front of security to kicking my tv. she kept telling me to give her 500 baht so she could go home. was this the same 500 baht that i offered her earlier that she scoffed at? that offer was off the table immediately after my tv was kicked. i told her that she needed to be giving me 10000 baht for my tv.
she said there was no damage to the tv and the security guard could go look at it. admittedly there was no damage; probably due to the fact that the tv sits about 6 inches in front of the wall and there are cables behind it at the base. so when she kicked it near the top it merely pushed the top toward the wall making the tv slant against the wall.
she kept telling me that if i didn't have any money then i needed to go back to my country. she even said she would buy me a plane ticket. eventually i realized that the shouting back and forth was getting me nowhere so i decided to shut down and give her the silent treatment. she continued her rant while i just stared at her making her even more frustrated. she kept telling me to give her 500 baht so she could go home. she got so frustrated that she started hitting my legs and tugging on the cargo pockets of my shorts. it looked like the manager was not coming back. my cousin said he was going to his room and i followed him. she tried to follow me through the security door but i was able to push her back and pull the door closed.
me and my cousin went up to my room and talked about what had happened. he said,"man you must have choked her or something because it was all red around her neck." i thought about it and said,"you know what? i damn sure did. i completely forgot about it. right after she kicked that tv i threw her on the bed and got on top of her and started choking the shit out of her. then i dragged her ass out into the hall."
this just goes to show that no method is 100% foolproof and every now and then the tightest mongering system will experience kinks. i just hope not to have an incident of this caliber for a long time to come.
Tony Hoeprano
05-30-12, 03:38
I pulled all her clothes off and told her to go ahead.I'm no lawyer, but forcibly ripping off a girls clothing and you might end up with free lodging at the graybar hotel!
Naked Gunz
05-30-12, 04:16
Here she is again in case someone runs into this crazy b@tch!Wow Tjack, she looks like a sweetheart! What started all that? I'm curious. Goes to show that "LOOKS Aint EVERTYHING!".
I picked up a FL in Lucifer once that was more drunk than she appeared in the club. Once in my bed she passed out. After arguing about service and how drunk she is and having security in the room I ended up paying her 1500 anyway just to get her the f*ck out my life. Always better to get a chick connected to something she does not want to lose.
Wow Tjack, she looks like a sweetheart! What started all that? I'm curious. Goes to show that "LOOKS Aint EVERTYHING!".Here is the original post:
Jekyll and Hyde at "I" Bar.
All this talk about people being robbed and women taking things from the rooms made want to chime in about my only bad experience in the 33+ years that I've been going to Pattaya.
One night I decided to go the disco route and see what I could pick up for 1000 baht at the "I" Bar. I met this girl and we hit it off quite well. I was buying the drinks and shots of course. Some light kissing, touching, and squeezing; I liked her. Turns out she worked at the Honey Bar on Walking Street and she wanted to stop there to introduce me to her friends. We had a drink, shared some street food, and we played well together. I really liked Miss Jekyll.
After we arrived at the Penthouse and was riding the elevator to the top floor, she had some questions."What kind of hotel is this?" "Why you stay this hotel?" and so forth. Got in the room and she started exploring the sex swing, dance floor & pole, and the jacuzzi. Then more questions were asked."What kind of loom is this?" "Why you stay in this loom?" I explained that the room was made for fucking and not questions. She got naked as I lit up the jacuzzi, but had a different look on her face. I told her if this all confused her, she would be better off leaving right now.
Hello, Miss Hyde! She said she wanted money for her time, so I threw her a couple hundred baht and told her to get the fuck out. Nope, she threw the 200 on the floor and she demanded 1000, even though money was never discussed. I told her that she was lucky enough to get what I gave her and to move on. Nope, she walked over and picked up both of my phones and acted like she was going to destroy them, and my laptop was next to her as well. I figured be the time I got to the hotel phone to call security, the damage would be already done. I threw 1000 at her, called her a bunch of fucking names, and got her out of the room as fast as I could. I really didn't like Miss Hyde!
This doesn't make sense. Why do those who claim to be able to pull free girls go to hooker places to get them.Who's claiming to pull free girls? Which hooker places are you referring to?
Does anyone recall the Thai music bar on the end ot the soi 2 complex called Kum Punn, does anyone know if it has been moved to any where else in Pattaya or if there is a comparable bar inside Pattaya please give details? I all ways found it always broke the ice with a non English speaking girl and appreciated by her.
LittleBigMan
05-30-12, 14:21
It must have been the sushi. That shit just doesn't mix well with McDonalds.True to a point? The so call sushi they sell here sure will do that to a person but it's more the WASABI, they like their food hot but it is a whole new ballgame when it comes to the Wasabi?
LBM
NicFrenchy
05-30-12, 15:42
She got so frustrated that she started hitting my legs and tugging on the cargo pockets of my shorts. It looked like the manager was not coming back. My cousin said he was going to his room and I followed him. She tried to follow me through the security door but I was able to push her back and pull the door closed.Wow, If my building manager and security let a lass kick me and did nothing about it, they'd be looking for a job the next day. The job of these assholes is to look after the residents of the place and their security.
NicFrenchy
05-30-12, 15:46
Dude, wouldn't it just be easier to pay! My favorite mongering quote: "You don't pay them for sex, you pay them to leave." Frankly, I would rather pay for a smoking hot bargirl w / o drama any time. So what if you pay.
I've mongered in Phils and Thailand for 10 years. Never ever had a problem.I think you missed the point. He's got money, it's not about the money, it's the principle.
And by the way, lucky it didn't turn out worse. Not saying it's right, but here in the US you would be in jail for the choking, regardless of what the chick did. I don't know TL as well as Phils but could be a problem in Phils also. Girl calls police, choke marks, enrichment opportunity for everyone but you.Thank god we're not in that shitty country then. I couldn't imagine who would want to live in a country where 72% of the people believe in Angels, Goblins and Zombies.
Ok, kidding aside, I can't see any country that would tolerate this, even Thailand. Luckily the cops did not show up.
However, some days later, some other people could show up unnanounced.
NicFrenchy
05-30-12, 15:51
Dude! That is totally fucked up! I think that you should take their picture before you allow them in your place. Then at least you can post a picture of the b@tch So the rest of us steer clear. That's what I did with that one that grabbed my cell phones and threaten to smash them, and she was also looking the laptop as well. Here she is again in case someone runs into this crazy b@tch!She has bigger arms than you.
NicFrenchy
05-30-12, 15:53
I'm no lawyer, but forcibly ripping off a girls clothing and you might end up with free lodging at the graybar hotel!Not really, without proof there is little the courts can do. But he'd have to pay the cops a lot of money, that's for sure
However, some days later, some other people could show up unnanounced.In this situation it might be better to just pay and put it down to experience. As he didn't pay maybe he, and his cousin, should be looking for a new apartment. As well as keeping a low profile.
Mr Enternational
05-30-12, 17:25
I'm no lawyer, but forcibly ripping off a girls clothing and you might end up with free lodging at the graybar hotel!It wasn't forcibly. She helped me with that but still refused to go take a shower. I forgot to mention that when I parked in the lot in front of Walking Street and didn't pay the girl 20 baht my good helmet was stolen. I had over a year run with that one. They left theirs that wasn't as good in its place. I had to go buy a new one for 489 and I will keep that one padlocked to my mirror from now on.
The Windex Man
05-30-12, 17:30
Jekyll and Hyde at "I" Bar.
One night I decided to go the disco route and see what I could pick up for 1000 baht at the "I" Bar. I met this girl and we hit it off quite well. I was buying the drinks and shots of course. Some light kissing, touching, and squeezing; I liked her. Turns out she worked at the Honey Bar on Walking Street and she wanted to stop there to introduce me to her friends. We had a drink, shared some street food, and we played well together. I really liked Miss Jekyll.
Hello, Miss Hyde! She said she wanted money for her time, so I threw her a couple hundred baht and told her to get the fuck out. Nope, she threw the 200 on the floor and she demanded 1000, even though money was never discussed. I told her that she was lucky enough to get what I gave her and to move on. Nope, she walked over and picked up both of my phones and acted like she was going to destroy them, and my laptop was next to her as well. I figured be the time I got to the hotel phone to call security, the damage would be already done. I threw 1000 at her, called her a bunch of fucking names, and got her out of the room as fast as I could. I really didn't like Miss Hyde!Wow! So you went out looking for a working girl for 1000 baht and the working girl got the full 1000 baht, without even a BJ and even though she knew a money transaction would have to involve sex, she demanded the full amount and threatened to destroy things in your hotel if you didn't pay.
I know incidents like this are probably few and far between, but I think it also tells me that I need to be very wary of freelancers, because it seems to me that any working girl off the street can do this, get away with it, and since there's nobody to report the freelancer to, what am I going to do, except give her the money. It's not my country and the last thing I want is for the police to get involved. Probably a pussy move on my behalf, but being it'll be my first time out there and being that I saw the tv show "Locked up abroad" concerning dumb American chicks going to jail in Thailand, I ain't taking chances! Them cells are nasty!
I went through something similar in Sosua, DR when a street walker chica demanded a tip, even though she was lousy in bed, including a 30 second BJ. Had to actually get physical with throwing her out my room, she kicks my door, yells in Spanish that she's getting the police, after she split I ran out my room to the club, and luckily never saw the police. Street walkers man, looks like I gots to be careful.
Shit.
Guys, I'm landing up in Bangkok this weekend & moving straightaway to Pattaya. I've heard so much about 'walking street' that I want to explore that part first. Now my problem is that I do not consume hard drinks & being a first timer I'm getting little nervous & hesitant to visit go-go bars. Can you guys guide me as in how to negotiate with a girl on a street. I'm looking forward to take a lady to my room for ST for 1000 Baht. Now how should I go about it without landing myself in trouble. I mean how do you initiate?
I forgot to mention that when I parked in the lot in front of Walking Street and didn't pay the girl 20 baht my good helmet was stolen. I had over a year run with that one. They left theirs that wasn't as good in its place. I had to go buy a new one for 489 and I will keep that one padlocked to my mirror from now on.Man, you sure learned a good lesson in Thai that night, didn't you, Mr. E?
When you didn't pay the 20 baht to park your bike it was highly predictable that something bad would happen and it surely did. You're lucky the bike was still there when you returned. And leaving your helmet unsecured was an invitation for theft, especially after not paying the 20 baht. The Thai's are vindictive bastards when they think they've been disrespected.
Most bikes have a steel bracket under the seat on both sides for securing helmets and most helmets have a steel ring on the strap that secures the helmet to the bracket when the seat is put down and locked. That's the best way to keep your helmet from being stolen.
As for the girl going berserk, that probably wouldn't have happened had you just remained calm. Again, you are lucky the cops didn't come and see the choke marks on her neck. You might have been in REAL trouble then.
Now the question is how this incident is going to affect your pristine reputation at the disco where all the girls know you and your modus operendi. That crazy chick is probably going to bad mouth you there.
Good luck!
Guys, I'm landing up in Bangkok this weekend & moving straightaway to Pattaya. I've heard so much about 'walking street' that I want to explore that part first. Now my problem is that I do not consume hard drinks & being a first timer I'm getting little nervous & hesitant to visit go-go bars. Can you guys guide me as in how to negotiate with a girl on a street. I'm looking forward to take a lady to my room for ST for 1000 Baht. Now how should I go about it without landing myself in trouble. I mean how do you initiate?You don't have to consume hard drinks in the go-go's. Lots of guys are sipping soft drinks or water. Some even order hot tea or coffee, no problem.
Regarding the hookers on Walking Street, if she looks at you and smiles it's a sure sign she's game for action. If you just walk up to her and say hello; you go with me; I give you 1000 baht, that's negotiating like a pro. Don't be shy.
Happy hunting.
NicFrenchy
05-31-12, 00:50
Guys, I'm landing up in Bangkok this weekend & moving straightaway to Pattaya. I've heard so much about 'walking street' that I want to explore that part first. Now my problem is that I do not consume hard drinks & being a first timer I'm getting little nervous & hesitant to visit go-go bars. Can you guys guide me as in how to negotiate with a girl on a street. I'm looking forward to take a lady to my room for ST for 1000 Baht. Now how should I go about it without landing myself in trouble. I mean how do you initiate?Hey, don't think too much about all this. I also don't drink alcohol when I go out. Just have a water or a soda.
Don't worry about Freelancers, in Walking street there will be many, just smile and talk to all the girls you like. They will tell you the price. Then it's just about Smiling and telling then "come on, I give you xxx" or something like that.
One thing: DO NOT lose your temper, shout, or look violent: this will end up badly for you.
You don't have to consume hard drinks in the go-go's. Lots of guys are sipping soft drinks or water. Some even order hot tea or coffee, no problem.
Regarding the hookers on Walking Street, if she looks at you and smiles it's a sure sign she's game for action. If you just walk up to her and say hello; you go with me; I give you 1000 baht, that's negotiating like a pro. Don't be shy.
Happy hunting.Great! Thanks for gearing me up. I really need such tips.
Are there any signs to look for when choosing a girl so as to avoid getting ripped off?
Hey, don't think too much about all this. I also don't drink alcohol when I go out. Just have a water or a soda.
Don't worry about Freelancers, in Walking street there will be many, just smile and talk to all the girls you like. They will tell you the price. Then it's just about Smiling and telling then "come on, I give you xxx" or something like that.
One thing: DO NOT lose your temper, shout, or look violent: this will end up badly for you.Certainly Not.
Is there any suggested price range for a short time?
As my trip is about to begin in couple of days so please excuse me for all my how's, can's & do's? I really need some info.
Can anyone forward me to reports discussing famous 'The classroom, a go-go bar with accommodation' I really want to get laid with few girls out there.
I mean do they provide FS? And what are the prices like.
LittleBigMan
05-31-12, 01:55
Great! Thanks for gearing me up. I really need such tips.
Are there any signs to look for when choosing a girl so as to avoid getting ripped off?Since your are taking a freelancer but no matter who you should always be careful? Don't keep your eggs in one basket meaning don't leave all your money in the room. If you have a safe in the room use it or use the safe deposit boxes in the lobby?
With the crack down on Beach Road, many of the girls who were asking 500-700 baht are walking down to walking street and now asking for a 1000 baht just for short time. Depending on your budget, if she say 1000 counter nicely with 500 baht? Now take a good look as to what you are looking at? My cousin the other night (cousins visiting this time of the year are commom LOL) across from Bacarra struck up a conversation with a freelancer, he ask, she responded 1000, he said 500 baht, she told him look at me? Do I look like 500 baht? I have to admit she did look pretty good? In the end, she came down to 800 baht and agree to go to his place instead of a short time hotel.
Stay away from the girls who look like they are high on drugs, drunk, attitude not too friendly. None of these are full proof but it is a start.
No matter where you sit your butt, you can order coke, Sprite, or just plain water just don't be surprise you will pay as if you are drinking hard liquor?
LBM
LittleBigMan
05-31-12, 02:09
Wow, If my building manager and security let a lass kick me and did nothing about it, they'd be looking for a job the next day. The job of these assholes is to look after the residents of the place and their security.From my observation he isn't staying at a nice high end condo like yourself. Many of these places the manager doesn't do anything more than sweeping up and making sure things get fix when broken that is as far as it goes. I was surprise he even came down from the 5th floor to see what was going on?
As for the cops coming, it shouldn't be a surprise they didn't since the majority of them are out sneaking around tht time of the eveing getting their tea money. If they did show up the solution for his problem since he is a farang would have him pay just to take care of the problem, principles wouldn't have play into the situation with the police here!
Sure paying the girl might have just been the best way to handle situation like this in this country but I can also see Mr. E. Side on this! Thais can drive you to doing things you normally might not do in your own country?
LBM
Since your are taking a freelancer but no matter who you should always be careful? Don't keep your eggs in one basket meaning don't leave all your money in the room. If you have a safe in the room use it or use the safe deposit boxes in the lobby?
With the crack down on Beach Road, many of the girls who were asking 500-700 baht are walking down to walking street and now asking for a 1000 baht just for short time. Depending on your budget, if she say 1000 counter nicely with 500 baht? Now take a good look as to what you are looking at? My cousin the other night (cousins visiting this time of the year are commom LOL) across from Bacarra struck up a conversation with a freelancer, he ask, she responded 1000, he said 500 baht, she told him look at me? Do I look like 500 baht? I have to admit she did look pretty good? In the end, she came down to 800 baht and agree to go to his place instead of a short time hotel.
Stay away from the girls who look like they are high on drugs, drunk, attitude not too friendly. None of these are full proof but it is a start.
No matter where you sit your butt, you can order coke, Sprite, or just plain water just don't be surprise you will pay as if you are drinking hard liquor?
LBMGood valuable report. Thanks LBM.
If she leaves her I'd on the front desk then can she be considered as 100% safe. And will it be OK if ask her about the availability of her I'd while negotiating?
Member #4698
05-31-12, 02:38
Now how should I go about it without landing myself in trouble. I mean how do you initiate?
Are there any signs to look for when choosing a girl so as to avoid getting ripped off?With all due respect Andy, you sound very green. I recommend that you stick with the Go Go's at least at first, where everything is easy peasy, until you learn the ropes. Hunting successfully for FL's on Beach Road requires a higher skill level and knowledge base than I think you possess at the present moment. Getting ripped off is one risk. Hooking up with a Kathoey is another. Baby steps Andy. Start with the Go Go's: places like Baccara, Heaven's Above, and Airport where everything is 99. 99% foolproof and nothing can go wrong. The girls are good looking and know how to take care of you. After a few nights in Pattaya, you can try your luck on Beach Road if you want. Chances are you will stick with the Go Go's because the Go Go's have more, better girls although at a higher price obviously. I walk Beach Road from my hotel to Walking Street every night while I am visiting Pattaya. I like the hunt vibe. But, honestly, the number of really attractive do able girls out there is quite low IMHO. Once in awhile I find a diamond. Most of the time, I just keep walking to my favorite Go Go’s.
Good valuable report. Thanks LBM.If she leaves her I'd on the front desk then can she be considered as 100% safe. And will it be OK if ask her about the availability of her I'd while negotiating?LBM is the "man behind the curtain" in Pattaya. After Daddy 07, he know the ropes and the knots better than the rest.
No Thai woman taken to a hotel room is 100 percent "safe." Better to have a "decoy" wallet with 840 baht in it to pay her (40 for the MC taxi if you are a gentleman). Remember to keep all your valuables in the room safe in case she slips you a "roofie."
Of course, is "she" slips you a "roofie" and turns out to be a ladyboy, you might find yourself with some pain the next day! Don't be that guy in "Hangover 2."
Have fun & be safe out there, it's a jungle. ;)
If she leaves her I'd on the front desk then can she be considered as 100% safe.
Absolutely NOT! Some stupid Thai female theives are dumb enough to leave copies their I'd cards at the front desk and then proceed to drug and rob their victims, wondering later why they got caught.
Read this and beware:
http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/56131/israeli-tourist-drugged-robbed-pattaya-prostitute/
When in Thailand playing with freelance hookers you have to be careful all the time. I see stories like this time after time. Sometimes they even bring crowbars to the room to pry open safes while their victim remains passed out. Sometimes their victims croak.
NicFrenchy
05-31-12, 04:35
With all due respect Andy, you sound very green. I recommend that you stick with the Go Go's at least at first, where everything is easy peasyI Fully Agree.
In Fact, if I may offer a Piece of advice? It would be better to get your rocks off right when you arrive.
Go to the Devils Den (very reputable business owned and operated by foreigners) http://www.devilsdenpattaya.com/index.php
Have steamy sex and that should clear your head for the night, Make sure you don't barfine the first girl that sits on your lap
Mr Enternational
05-31-12, 05:20
Like Daddy said, it happens every week. And what if the ID is not actually her? :
Khun Maree revealed how she met one of the men in front of Royal Garden Plaza on Pattaya Beach. She stressed to him that she was not a prostitute but was offered 800 Baht to accompany the man back to his Hotel room. She accepted the money and went to the Bella Express Hotel, leaving a stolen Thai I'd Card on reception. Inside the room were the two other Bangladeshi's.
http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/55201/suspect-drugging-robbery-case-bangladesh-rotarians-caught-pattaya-police/
The manager of my building threw around the idea of leaving the girls' cards with the security guy, but this being a regular Thai / Falang apartment building and not a hotel that kind of went out the window. Of course I have a copier and a safe in my room, but by this kind of thing happening once every few years it's not worth the trouble to me to bother with doing it every freaking day.
Sure paying the girl might have just been the best way to handle situation like this in this country but I can also see Mr. E. Side on this!Paying money usually is the best way out of a bad situation in LOS. Even better is to avoid the problem before it arises.
If you reread Mr E's story you will uncover the danger signs before they even got to the room.
Mr Enternational
05-31-12, 06:38
One I picked up last night in the disco. We came to my place at 2:30. Now it is 12:30. She just left because she has a doctor's appointment at 1 due to a motorbike accident the other day. As usual no price discussion beforehand. Just left 1000 baht under her cellphone when she went in to take a shower a few minutes ago. She is from Rayong and said her father is a policeman in Pattaya. No idea what her name is.
Naked Gunz
05-31-12, 08:15
I walk Beach Road from my hotel to Walking Street every night while I am visiting Pattaya. I like the hunt vibe. But, honestly, the number of really attractive do able girls out there is quite low IMHO.OMG This is an understatement! Coconut bar is for walking and not shopping as far as I'm concerned. Its cool to look and see whats going on, but those rejects are there for a reason: Bottom of the food chain. Yaba being one big reason. IMHO, in Pattaya at any given moment, the best of the best is getting pumped hard by somebody already. Those chicks know their value.
LittleBigMan
05-31-12, 08:24
Paying money usually is the best way out of a bad situation in LOS. Even better is to avoid the problem before it arises.
If you reread Mr E's story you will uncover the danger signs before they even got to the room.Yes, I agree that there were a few signs after they left but what cause Mr. E to snapped was the girl and her dirty feet was dirting his silk sheets plus you can't expect a guy to suck toes when the feet is dirty? That is just downright wrong in my book. Paying is fine for us old guys but even we get tired of the B. S. Now Mr. E, is a young stud who still can I think open a can of whip ass? I might have done the same and thereafter bend her over and fuck her up the ass!
LBM
LittleBigMan
05-31-12, 08:35
Good valuable report. Thanks LBM.
If she leaves her I'd on the front desk then can she be considered as 100% safe. And will it be OK if ask her about the availability of her I'd while negotiating?Having the hotel check and retain the I. D. Is good but from my experience it seem anyone can get a I. D, plus majority of the time they don't even live in the location stated on the I. D.
As noted you sound real green and just because you are coming to Thailand doesn't mean you get stupid when you land. You do what is normal as you would in your own country. When in doubt play it safe and don't put yourself in a position for it to happen because most of the time it will happen if you do? As suggested you might want to forgo the freelancer for now and stick with some gogos and Beerbars this way if something does happen you can at least go back to the place? Of course this doesn't mean you are going to get the same help as if you were home? But it is a start! Devilden is also a good suggestion to get your stick dipped!
We all start off stupid and they can smell one a mile away, you are going to pay your dues but the key is try to learn from your mistakes and improve your game and don't be afraid. You can't play the game if you are scared to act!
In a few days, you will unzip and let the dog out so have fun and be safe?
LBM
LittleBigMan
05-31-12, 08:46
Absolutely NOT! Some stupid Thai female theives are dumb enough to leave copies their I'd cards at the front desk and then proceed to drug and rob their victims, wondering later why they got caught.
Read this and beware:
http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/56131/israeli-tourist-drugged-robbed-pattaya-prostitute/
When in Thailand playing with freelance hookers you have to be careful all the time. I see stories like this time after time. Sometimes they even bring crowbars to the room to pry open safes while their victim remains passed out. Sometimes their victims croak.Daddy07, is right! From my experience Thais don't make very good crooks because they lack education in general and are just plain stupid to even be crooks. I basically can't understand how they have such a great fighting style but yet majority of them seem to be cowards in general. When someone comes along and play their game better they get upset! The best thing to do is not put yourself in a position for things to happen. Play it safe and stick to the gogos or go to Soi 6, Soi 7, 8 beerbars. If you are staying at L. K. Metro area there are plenty of small GoGos there too to get your started. A soapie or oil at Honey Massage is successed too!
LBM
. We all start off stupid and they can smell one a mile away, you are going to pay your dues but the key is try to learn from your mistakes and improve your game and don't be afraid. You can't play the game if you are scared to act!I had a friend in town recently and the first time he got out of my "guidance," a Pattaya go-go girl who he had BF'd convinced him to go visit mama and poppa and take the family out for a meal. Well, as the evening progressed all of her "cousins" and "brothers" joined the party, too! She even tried to convince him to give mama few thousand baht.
Poor guy thought he was having a cultural exchange!
Poor guy thought he was having a cultural exchange!The onlky exchange was the banknotes from one wallet to a pocket
Is there any suggested price range for a short time?Man, there is a price indication given every five posts on ISG. RTFF
Pointy Stick
05-31-12, 10:03
Guys, I'm landing up in Bangkok this weekend & moving straightaway to Pattaya. I've heard so much about 'walking street' that I want to explore that part first. Now my problem is that I do not consume hard drinks & being a first timer I'm getting little nervous & hesitant to visit go-go bars. Can you guys guide me as in how to negotiate with a girl on a street. I'm looking forward to take a lady to my room for ST for 1000 Baht. Now how should I go about it without landing myself in trouble. I mean how do you initiate?- Maybe you should try Soi 6 first of all as its easily mastered with standard pricing: 700 to the girl with 300 for the room ST. Good for first timers especially if you have never had a girl in your room before.
- Beach road will start at about 500 ST but I've paid up to 800 and seen it offered as low as 100 (which I did NOT take).
- Walking street would start at about 1000+ but beware that many girls circulate from BR and walking street and they just raise their prices due to location. To be honest its unless you drink its all a bit boring after a while.
I got these price point in December during high season but not sure if they are lower now.
SOP: You're best to open with these prices but it's all contingent on her looks and age. Don't be nervous, all they want is your money and its your job to make it as easy as possible. Just make an offer and see if she accepts it or not. Make sure you are able to tell if they are a ladyboy or not.
Good luck, I'll be heading to Pattaya on Monday.
There is some good advice posted here in the past week so RTFF just don't listen to that ass clown H444.
LittleBigMan
05-31-12, 12:08
I had a friend in town recently and the first time he got out of my "guidance," a Pattaya go-go girl who he had BF'd convinced him to go visit mama and poppa and take the family out for a meal. Well, as the evening progressed all of her "cousins" and "brothers" joined the party, too! She even tried to convince him to give mama few thousand baht.
Poor guy thought he was having a cultural exchange!A few years back before my cousin learned the hard way (as noted cousins are big the last few days) and this guy has been mongering for years and years everywhere in SEA. Regardless, he always said we are only friends and everytime I ask him what he's doing he tells me I went to see her folks? Then he comes back and complains and a few days later does the same thing? We use to call him Charlie Tuna, he gets thrown back into the ocean and he gets caught again and again.
There was one trip I don't think he even got any pussy for two weeks even from girl he was too busy buying dinner for so many families in Pattaya?
LBM
Horny Landoora
05-31-12, 14:47
One I picked up last night in the disco. Just left 1000 baht under her cellphone when she went in to take a shower a few minutes ago. She is from Rayong and said her father is a policeman in Pattaya. No idea what her name is.MR. E a very nice catch and seriously for 1k for a FL? Knowing your past adventures am sure you did get your worth of 1k from her! I like such dames with meat at the right places than skinny ones, another reason to plan my trip out sooner!
Lots of interesting feedback following Mr. Know it All, Seen it All, Done it All and Bought the T-shirt's experience with dirty feet early in the week. Good to see him back on form with another one finishing her shower and finding the standard 1, 000 Baht tucked under her telephone. I must admit from the pictures she would have had to pay me 1, 000 Baht to sleep with her. For me she wouldn't pass the 'fat ass' test. If I had a choice I would pick a girl with dirty feet ahead of a fat ass any day of the week.
Lots of feedback from the Pattaya Legends (LBM & Daddy07) spurred on by good old Fon Dok who I thought had left the forum. Thankfully he's still here.
Daddy07 I like the link to the news story about the Israeli although I must admit I've never met an Israeli who leaves 100, 000 Baht just sitting in his room. There was also a link to another story about Taffy a British guy who suffered the same fate as the Israeli. Both these guys are in their sixties and maybe playing a game they shouldn't have been playing at that age. I like this comment from someone called Trevor below the story.
1. trevor says:
May 31, 2012 at 6:32 am.
Go to bar or go go, have a drink, pay barfine, go to room, get rid when deed done or stay with her if you like her. Its in the unofficial manuel of rules of Pattaya.
Mr. E has a different set of rules but it's a dangerous game he's playing. Even if he is a young fit guy ex-army who can take care of himself. I will always say follow Trevor's advice.
LBM – lots of good advice. I would just question the comment about DD. I don't know if it was ever great but from what I've heard standards have dropped with the new management. I also heard a few DD girls had moved to the Wilkom Inn and are providing the same services for a third of the price.
On the cousin front. Mine was here a few weeks back. We were busy doing things at the orphanage and didn't have a lot of spare time. We did make it to the Walking Street one night and enjoyed Lobster in Kings Seafood. We also found some girls later on the Beach Club who passed the dirty feet test. Mine stayed with me until 11 the next morning and whilst she was in the shower I put 2, 000 Baht under her bra which she'the left on the dressing table.
Mods – I've tried really hard with this posting. Please don't delete me.
Mr Enternational
05-31-12, 15:01
A few years back before my cousin learned the hard way (as noted cousins are big the last few days) and this guy has been mongering for years and years everywhere in SEA. Regardless, he always said we are only friends and everytime I ask him what he's doing he tells me I went to see her folks?After reading all of the Neil Hutchison books I am ready to make my own adventures in the villages. But no matter how much I beg chicks never take me to see their folks. Am I not sucker enough? Maybe they think they will lose face because they already know that I won't shell out the dough.
The only opportunity that I had was with my ex-girlfriend. She was a PE teacher and wanted to go to the States to be a nanny so she could practice her English in preparation for a Master's in Communication. I helped her perfect her essays. She was approved and wanted me to go to the airport in BKK to meet her family when she was on the way out. I wasn't about to take a taxi from Pattaya both ways just to stay at the airport a few minutes so I declined. When she got to my country she said that we should just be friends and when I talked to her a year ago she was slated to marry some guy from New Jersey.
After reading your reports, I think I should stick to the places you guys have suggested for a while and keep an eye on walking street until I can make out the difference between Beach Road & WS girls. Thanks NIC & Pointy for Devildens & Soi6 suggestions. I've already been to devil-dens site & have decided to call upon few. Also I've short listed few escorts for my Bangkok stay between 3000-5000 range. But apart from this good stuff I was looking for some real sleazy fun that doesn't costs more than 500 Baht. This way you can strip & feel 2-3 in row, it has it own charm. But better I should learn the tricks first as advised. Thanks Guys.
I'm still looking for a reviews about 'Classroom' but no luck. Once again, is there any one? I'm actually interested to stay there for couple of days as they have some good stuff in their go-go bar.
The Windex Man
05-31-12, 22:49
One I picked up last night in the disco. We came to my place at 2:30. Now it is 12:30. She just left because she has a doctor's appointment at 1 due to a motorbike accident the other day. As usual no price discussion beforehand. Just left 1000 baht under her cellphone when she went in to take a shower a few minutes ago. She is from Rayong and said her father is a policeman in Pattaya. No idea what her name is.Very impressive ass on that one, Mr. E. Hope to see more like that when I arrive. Thanks for posting!
When pointy pointed out Soi6, I thought its a name of yet another go-go bar. But just googled & it seems that its quite a big area with lots of bars & each having loads of girls up & ready for FS. I don't know whether I got it right or wrong? But if thats the case I think I've found my place. Also some of you have mentioned that its quite safe. So does every bar here has 'sex + room' on the menu?
Also I've short listed few escorts for my Bangkok stay between 3000-5000 range. But apart from this good stuff I was looking for some real sleazy fun that doesn't costs more than 500 Baht. This way you can strip & feel 2-3 in row, it has it own charm. But better I should learn the tricks first as advised. Thanks Guys.I do not see the point to take escorts at 3/5000 when you can take a take away from a MP / Oily / Soapie for less and with more safety on ebing sure you get what you see, not to mention the performance. I think a soapie girl will not be a star fish whislt an escprt is always hit and miss
Member #4698
05-31-12, 23:09
Soi6, I thought its a name of yet another go-go bar. But just googled & it seems that its quite a big area with lots of bars & each having loads of girls up & ready for FS. I don't know whether I got it right or wrong? But if thats the case I think I've found my place.Yes maybe you have found your place. It is time to RTFF Andy. There is a ton of info on Soi 6. Here is a map of Soi 6 to point you in the right direction.
I do not see the point to take escorts at 3/5000 when you can take a take away from a MP / Oily / Soapie for less and with more safety on ebing sure you get what you see, not to mention the performance. I think a soapie girl will not be a star fish whislt an escprt is always hit and missMay be you are right Bionicman but actually I have some fetishes for which I short listed after going through their services. Another reason is that I like mature stuff 45+ which is very hard to find in MP, I assume. So probably I'll try in Bangkok just to have a feel, Eden Club is going to be one for sure.
Yes maybe you have found your place. It is time to RTFF Andy. There is a ton of info on Soi 6. Here is a map of Soi 6 to point you in the right direction.Thanks for the guide Bumpo, I'll definitely search but still I want to hear from you guys first hand. Do you have to pay the bar fines in Soi6, is room included, does price vary, whats the lower & higher limit. I mean all such questions. Though I'm landing up there on Monday but still I'm curious to know.
LittleBigMan
06-01-12, 04:03
Thanks for the guide Bumpo, I'll definitely search but still I want to hear from you guys first hand. Do you have to pay the bar fines in Soi6, is room included, does price vary, whats the lower & higher limit. I mean all such questions. Though I'm landing up there on Monday but still I'm curious to know.Soi 6, looks long but it isn't, around city block long? The general rule is you do ST at these places although you can take them for LT too. For short time you pay 300 baht for the room upstair and 700 baht for the girl service at that is FS. You should make sure what you are getting or what you want for the price. Don't be shy these girls have been around the block more than once. If ask whether you been to Thailand or Soi 6 before just lie! This is a good place to work on your game and negotiation skills. LT, is something like this 500 baht for the house and depending on the time you take them and your negotiation skills it is usually in the range of 1, 000/1, 500.
LBM
Bangkok v. Pattaya: I much prefer Pattaya, for it's laid-back, beach resort vibe. When I'm there I feel like I'm on HOLIDAY. It's totally chill. And of course, the play-for-pay scene is HUGE in Pattaya. That said, you should spend at least a few days in Bangkok. It's like Los Angeles on steroids. Leer at the smoking hot chicks on the sky train. See the temples and other touristy things. Have a suit tailored. (Victor and Jesse at Rajawongse. The BEST.) Check out the ultra-high-end shopping, dining and bars. Then get laid by one of the hotties from Nana or Soi Cowboy. I recommend spending two to four days in Bangkok at the END of your trip. You'll be bored with Pattaya by then. The Millennium Grand is nice, as is the Admiral Premier and the Pharchara Suites. It's convenient to be closer to the airport when it's time to fly out.
Lodging in Pattaya. Soi LK Metro vs. Closer to Walking Street: Pattaya is VERY small. You will have NO trouble staying on LK Metro and getting to Walking Street. You can EITHER walk WEST to Beach Road and catch the baht bus headed south, or walk EAST to Soi Buakaow and catch the baht bus headed south. Same same. If you bring a girl from Walking Street to Soi LK Metro, that's NO BIG DEAL. Once she's done she can find her way back no problem. Moreover, Soi LK has lots of adult fun in its own right. If you stay there you might discover that you don't want to head down to Walking Street. At least not every night. Several cool go-go clubs, some of which are just as neat their more famous cousins on Walking Street: Champagne, Office, MASH, Oasis. And a respectable number of beer bars, where if you look hard enough you can find somebody to spend the night with.
Finally. Once you go I doubt this will be your "first and ONLY trip." I suspect you'll be back.
Bunky
One I picked up last night in the disco. We came to my place at 2:30. Now it is 12:30. She just left because she has a doctor's appointment at 1 due to a motorbike accident the other day. As usual no price discussion beforehand. Just left 1000 baht under her cellphone when she went in to take a shower a few minutes ago. She is from Rayong and said her father is a policeman in Pattaya. No idea what her name is.Damn dude, even with the Asian ladies you seem to find them with the nice round backsides. And ten hours for 1000 baht isn't bad at all. I got to change my ways and stop being such a cheap Charley.
Thanks for the report and pics.
Yes maybe you have found your place. It is time to RTFF Andy. There is a ton of info on Soi 6. Here is a map of Soi 6 to point you in the right direction.Good map but some of these bars are no longer there. Betty Boop is gone along with some others I don't remember the names. There's now a jewerly shop, a new massage shop, a pizza place and construction on going at one of the bars.
She has bigger arms than you.Damn Frenchy! You must work or have worked for the in the intelligence sector. Your insight is incredible! Keep up the great detective work! We, or maybe just me, are in awe of you awesome posts!
Good map but some of these bars are no longer there. Betty Boop is gone along with some others I don't remember the names. There's now a jewerly shop, a new massage shop, a pizza place and construction on going at one of the bars.Another map, but all of Pattaya.
Red Mosquito
06-01-12, 07:37
Man, there is a price indication given every five posts on ISG. RTFFHi Bionicman,
I totally love your curt and blunt ways with some mongers who want to know everything under the sun without themselves having to bat an eyelid. My inbox gets inundated with these PMs where they ask for stuff which can be found on ISG in ten minutes flat.
I salute your spirit of showing lazy bumasses their place and rightly so! Respect!
Red Mosquito
Red Mosquito
06-01-12, 08:09
Me and my cousin went up to my room and talked about what had happened. He said,"Man you must have choked her or something because it was all red around her neck." I thought about it and said,"You know what? I damn sure did. I completely forgot about it. Right after she kicked that TV I threw her on the bed and got on top of her and started choking the shit out of her. Then I dragged her ass out into the hall."
This just goes to show that no method is 100% foolproof and every now and then the tightest mongering system will experience kinks. I just hope not to have an incident of this caliber for a long time to come.Mr. E, as a fellow mongerer I completely understand what you went through and sympathise with you. Its only these 3-4 girls in a gang of 100 who would sully up the whole scene and create shit for anyone. I would have lost my temper real bad had someone kicked my TV set just like that, it breaking or not withstanding.
Having said that, it aint too great an idea to probably choke someone to death in a foreign land. I would probably keep the ' getting angry and hitting someone' barrier higher than I would in my homeland. I am sure you took a lesson out of the whole shit and the next great experience is going to make you forget this bad day in a jiffy.
You take care man.
Red Mosquito
With all due respect Andy, you sound very green. I recommend that you stick with the Go Go's at least at first, where everything is easy peasy, until you learn the ropes. Hunting successfully for FL's on Beach Road requires a higher skill level and knowledge base than I think you possess at the present moment. Getting ripped off is one risk. Hooking up with a Kathoey is another. Baby steps Andy. Start with the Go Go's: places like Baccara, Heaven's Above, and Airport where everything is 99. 99% foolproof and nothing can go wrong. The girls are good looking and know how to take care of you. After a few nights in Pattaya, you can try your luck on Beach Road if you want. Chances are you will stick with the Go Go's because the Go Go's have more, better girls although at a higher price obviously. I walk Beach Road from my hotel to Walking Street every night while I am visiting Pattaya. I like the hunt vibe. But, honestly, the number of really attractive do able girls out there is quite low IMHO. Once in awhile I find a diamond. Most of the time, I just keep walking to my favorite Go Go’s.Here we go again. Another posting from me that the mods might take offence to and end up in the trash can. It's just when I see something so obviously BS I can't let it stand without adding the reality check.
Natty. Andy sounds green because he wants everytbody to believe it's his first time in Pattaya. The trouble is he's gone to such great lenghts to sound green he's over done it. He's gone too green. Anyway, I guess there is a reason for it. Great response from Natty here. For anyone really visting Pattaya for the first time take this advice.
My inbox gets inundated with these PMs where they ask for stuff which can be found on ISG in ten minutes flat.The worst is when in the PM they do not even mention the country or town, but ask for information. We should answer: digit #1 for Europe, digit #2 for Asia, digit #3 for South America, digit #4 for North America, digit#5 for Africa, and so on and so on. Ending with "Thank you for writing to the Yellow Pages of International Sex, your account will be charged by 10$ for each inquire." - cheers and keep cool, mate! :)
May be you are right Bionicman but actually I have some fetishes for which I short listed after going through their services.I still believe you can have some fetishes better sorted the way I sugggested, as you can see this with the mama-san or even with the girl. When you take escorts the deal is very unpersonal: you call, you are given a quote, they will say to many things to get the business, they send the girl, you pay her (before) , and then. Good luck! What do you do if she does not perform your fetishes? Send her back with the guarantee card stamped by the dealer? Escorts are already a big bete on what youget comapred to what you booked.
Even MP's etc having a photo book at reception (and the girls few meters away) have photoshopped images.
Would you have photoshopped pictures to promote someone that a few minutes after and a few meters away, when called, will reveal not her beauty but the skills of the photoshop guy? Not in a normal business. This is what happens there, tho'!
Go imagine the level of cheating that can be delivered with an escort.
Just my two cents.
The Windex Man
06-01-12, 11:26
Bangkok v. Pattaya: I much prefer Pattaya, for it's laid-back, beach resort vibe. When I'm there I feel like I'm on HOLIDAY. It's totally chill. And of course, the play-for-pay scene is HUGE in Pattaya. That said, you should spend at least a few days in Bangkok. It's like Los Angeles on steroids. Leer at the smoking hot chicks on the sky train. See the temples and other touristy things. Have a suit tailored. (Victor and Jesse at Rajawongse. The BEST.) Check out the ultra-high-end shopping, dining and bars. Then get laid by one of the hotties from Nana or Soi Cowboy. I recommend spending two to four days in Bangkok at the END of your trip. You'll be bored with Pattaya by then. The Millennium Grand is nice, as is the Admiral Premier and the Pharchara Suites. It's convenient to be closer to the airport when it's time to fly out.
Lodging in Pattaya. Soi LK Metro vs. Closer to Walking Street: Pattaya is VERY small. You will have NO trouble staying on LK Metro and getting to Walking Street. You can EITHER walk WEST to Beach Road and catch the baht bus headed south, or walk EAST to Soi Buakaow and catch the baht bus headed south. Same same. If you bring a girl from Walking Street to Soi LK Metro, that's NO BIG DEAL. Once she's done she can find her way back no problem. Moreover, Soi LK has lots of adult fun in its own right. If you stay there you might discover that you don't want to head down to Walking Street. At least not every night. Several cool go-go clubs, some of which are just as neat their more famous cousins on Walking Street: Champagne, Office, MASH, Oasis. And a respectable number of beer bars, where if you look hard enough you can find somebody to spend the night with.
Finally. Once you go I doubt this will be your "first and ONLY trip." I suspect you'll be back.
BunkyAs for your final quote about you suspecting I'll be back, I hope that Thailand blows me away (pun intended) to a point where I'll be planning a second trip back to Thailand on my plane ride back to the US. However, being realistic, this is my first to an Asian country and I've never sex'd asian women before. Compatible in bed? I'll see. In theory, a woman is a woman, but again, I'll see.
I'm coming and badly want to do the trip because I'm thinking (and hoping) that the sex in general will be so absolutely outstanding that it will overthrow my big booty fetish (reason for so many trips to Brazil) , plus the bottom line is that the place looks fun and I want to have a lot of fun in between all the fuck sessions and it just looks like to me that there are like a million different options on shit to do out there, so I won't get bored, like I do on my Dominican Republic trips. For instance, I also have a strong desire to ride an elephant while out there. When I say ride an elephant, I'm not referring to banging a fat chick, I'm talking an actual elephant. Dammit, don't ask me why.
Normally I do about 3 trips to different countries a year, mainly to DR or Brazil. Thailand is such a big deal to me this year that I decided that Thailand will be my one and only trip. Every dollar will be saved towards this trip. 2012 (when the world supposedly ends, right?) is the year of Thailand! Well if the world ends, I want to go out with a bang (again, pun intended).
Thanks to feedback such as yours and other feedback received, I have made the decision to do the last 5 nights of my 3 week trip in Bangkok. I really like the idea of finishing the trip in Bangkok and then being around the corner from the airport for when I will have to go back to the US. As for the Nana vs Soi Cowboy thing, my plan is to do both during the 5 nights and then make a decision as to which one I like better. Based on my readings, it seems that Nana has a bigger ladyboy scene, so I'm not happy about that at all. Don't want them touching me or talking to me. It will probably make me hang out more on Cowboy, but we'll see.
Overall, I hope that the end result of this trip is that I'm crying like a baby on the ride to the airport, as I realize that I'm leaving paradise for a ride back to the United States, aka Sex Prison.
NicFrenchy
06-01-12, 11:39
I've never sex'd asian women before. Compatible in bed? I'll see. In theory, a woman is a woman, but again, I'll see.You're in for a BIG Surprise.
But like All newbies, you will have Awesome moments and bad ones, you will get ripped off, you will get angry sometimes with the Thais.
Just Remember one thing and this will be the most important: NEVER MAKE A THAI LOSE FACE IN PUBLIC = This could result in you getting put to sleep forever.
Apart from that, I suggest you NOT to try the Following at the start: MANGO, TULIP, SNOW WHITE, DEVILS DEN, EDEN CLUB. These places are so Raunchy they will make everything else feel Bland.
StarChildXXX
06-01-12, 19:25
As for your final quote about you suspecting I'll be back, I hope that Thailand blows me away (pun intended) to a point where I'll be planning a second trip back to Thailand on my plane ride back to the US. However, being realistic, this is my first to an Asian country and I've never sex'd asian women before. Compatible in bed? I'll see. In theory, a woman is a woman, but again, I'll see.
I'm coming and badly want to do the trip because I'm thinking (and hoping) that the sex in general will be so absolutely outstanding that it will overthrow my big booty fetish (reason for so many trips to Brazil) , plus the bottom line is that the place looks fun and I want to have a lot of fun in between all the fuck sessions and it just looks like to me that there are like a million different options on shit to do out there, so I won't get bored, like I do on my Dominican Republic trips. For instance, I also have a strong desire to ride an elephant while out there. When I say ride an elephant, I'm not referring to banging a fat chick, I'm talking an actual elephant. Dammit, don't ask me why.
Normally I do about 3 trips to different countries a year, mainly to DR or Brazil. Thailand is such a big deal to me this year that I decided that Thailand will be my one and only trip. Every dollar will be saved towards this trip. 2012 (when the world supposedly ends, right?) is the year of Thailand! Well if the world ends, I want to go out with a bang (again, pun intended).
Thanks to feedback such as yours and other feedback received, I have made the decision to do the last 5 nights of my 3 week trip in Bangkok. I really like the idea of finishing the trip in Bangkok and then being around the corner from the airport for when I will have to go back to the US. As for the Nana vs Soi Cowboy thing, my plan is to do both during the 5 nights and then make a decision as to which one I like better. Based on my readings, it seems that Nana has a bigger ladyboy scene, so I'm not happy about that at all. Don't want them touching me or talking to me. It will probably make me hang out more on Cowboy, but we'll see.
Overall, I hope that the end result of this trip is that I'm crying like a baby on the ride to the airport, as I realize that I'm leaving paradise for a ride back to the United States, aka Sex Prison.Trust me my brother, your going to forget about Rio as soon as one of those Honeys grabs your hand, and places them around her waist, and she turns around and grinds her behind on your thang, while Kanye West is bumping in the backround!
I guarantee you'll be back. Never met ONE BROTHER that hung out in Rio, that didn't go back to Pattaya! Thats real talk. 3 wks. My goodness, listen to some of these cats, few days in Bangkok is a good look.
I personally never kicked it in Bangkok, so I'll be gettn a heads UP from you. That Skytrain sounds like its off the chain! They'll probably kick me off for riding it so much. I got to couple of Honeys in Pattaya encouraging me to go to Bangkok.
And you got honeys from Bangkok that like to come down to Pattaya for the wkd. Thats the beauty of this place so many options or " jump-offs " (honeys you meet " off the grid " ie: the mall, hotel, waitresses, on the street, working in the stores)
And thats just in Pattaya! But I plan to Deploy to Bangkok on my next trip in Dec.
And keep these " horror stories " about these chicks in your back pocket. That shit can happen to anyone, vet or rookie. Real talk. That's why I tend to kick it mainly in the Discos, so I can get a better vibe from a honey. I get a better experience from a chick that's feeln me vs. Me feeln them. You feeling me? All money aint good money, unfortunately there's some " wet firecrackers out there". Sometimes its better to take a loss, for a better win. That shit in Columbia with those Secret Sukas should have NEVER WENT DOWN like that. Don't tangle with these honeys if you find yourself in a jam. Remember its thier country and you don't know who's she's with or what. If you have to Pay to get this * out, then that's what you do. I guarantee that " * " is a problem with everyone. Tomorrow is a another day. And you got over 40. 000 other women out there.
Your new chapter is starting My Brother, wait till you get off that plane. LOL
LittleBigMan
06-02-12, 03:26
Between the lines, my opinion, you aren't coming back because I sense your expectation are getting too high. When that happens you will start to count and keep score and that just takes any fun out of a vacation or holiday? You are way over thinking this trip? I like the booty as much as the next person but there is more to it than just her backside?
LBM
Kitie Carson
06-02-12, 05:40
As for your final quote about you suspecting I'll be back, I hope that Thailand blows me away (pun intended) to a point where I'll be planning a second trip back to Thailand on my plane ride back to the US. However, being realistic, this is my first to an Asian country and I've never sex'd asian women before. Compatible in bed? I'll see. In theory, a woman is a woman, but again, I'll see.
I'm coming and badly want to do the trip because I'm thinking (and hoping) that the sex in general will be so absolutely outstanding that it will overthrow my big booty fetish (reason for so many trips to Brazil) , plus the bottom line is that the place looks fun and I want to have a lot of fun in between all the fuck sessions and it just looks like to me that there are like a million different options on shit to do out there, so I won't get bored, like I do on my Dominican Republic trips. For instance, I also have a strong desire to ride an elephant while out there. When I say ride an elephant, I'm not referring to banging a fat chick, I'm talking an actual elephant. Dammit, don't ask me why.
Normally I do about 3 trips to different countries a year, mainly to DR or Brazil. Thailand is such a big deal to me this year that I decided that Thailand will be my one and only trip. Every dollar will be saved towards this trip. 2012 (when the world supposedly ends, right?) is the year of Thailand! Well if the world ends, I want to go out with a bang (again, pun intended).
Thanks to feedback such as yours and other feedback received, I have made the decision to do the last 5 nights of my 3 week trip in Bangkok. I really like the idea of finishing the trip in Bangkok and then being around the corner from the airport for when I will have to go back to the US. As for the Nana vs Soi Cowboy thing, my plan is to do both during the 5 nights and then make a decision as to which one I like better. Based on my readings, it seems that Nana has a bigger ladyboy scene, so I'm not happy about that at all. Don't want them touching me or talking to me. It will probably make me hang out more on Cowboy, but we'll see.
Overall, I hope that the end result of this trip is that I'm crying like a baby on the ride to the airport, as I realize that I'm leaving paradise for a ride back to the United States, aka Sex Prison.As a lover of women worldwide. I took my 1st soiree' to LOS last September for 1 month Holiday.
I have traveled to Costa Rica, Brazil, Dominican Republic, and the good ole USA in search of fine ladies and had a great time. Loved all these places. BUT.
Since that Sept '11 trip to Pattaya, I have been back in Jan '12 for 2 weeks, April '12 for 1 month, and going again August '12 for 2 more weeks. There is no other like LOS. I am from the USA and do not care of the long flight to get there as the sheer number of Fine ladies I know awaits me, gets me through. And the price. Well thats another discussion. NO WHERE compares. To price and amount of available ladies.
Just had a weird experience with DD. I went through the online booking system to order an outcall service (Gik. 3 PM today). They replied confirming the reservation, all well. Comes 15:30, and the girl has not shown up yet. I email back asking what's going on, and they reply saying they did not send her because they believe this was a fake booking, adding this.
"In the extremely unlikely event we made an error, simply present yourself, in person at our LK Metro establishment, answer a few questions and permit us to copy your passport I'd page for verification. If satisfied, we would then be willing to discuss the possibility of providing you service."
Whoever wrote this sounds liek somebody that has not realized they are in Pattaya.
Has anybody had any positive experience booking outcalls with them?
Ta
The Windex Man
06-02-12, 12:23
Between the lines, my opinion, you aren't coming back because I sense your expectation are getting too high. When that happens you will start to count and keep score and that just takes any fun out of a vacation or holiday? You are way over thinking this trip? I like the booty as much as the next person but there is more to it than just her backside?
LBMWhen you say that there is more to a person than just her backside, you are absolutely right. That is why I am coming on this trip, because after years and years of not realizing that, I finally woke up and bought the plane ticket. I want to go, so I'm going. No more excuses. Overthinking, yep, it's a personality trait (perfectionism. Strong motivation to avoid failure) that drives my family nuts from time to time. However even though it drives them nuts, I'm the one that they count on to plan all of their trips and solve all of their problems. Go figure. I'm doing it here again, but I've also done it before my first Rio trip (returned) and my first DR trip (returned). Hell, I did it before my first shitty Cancun trip as well (did not return). It's just something I always do before doing anything brand new: studying the language, reading all kinds of books on the country, reading old ISG posts going back a couple of years, etc. Excitement level is high right now and I realize that I need to bring it down a few notches, because like you are stating, if the expectation is too high, then anything below it will be considered a letdown in my book.
As my brother has told me on more than one occasion: "CALM the fuck down. It is going to be okay"
The Windex Man
06-02-12, 12:32
You're in for a BIG Surprise.
But like All newbies, you will have Awesome moments and bad ones, you will get ripped off, you will get angry sometimes with the Thais.
Just Remember one thing and this will be the most important: NEVER MAKE A THAI LOSE FACE IN PUBLIC = This could result in you getting put to sleep forever.
Apart from that, I suggest you NOT to try the Following at the start: MANGO, TULIP, SNOW WHITE, DEVILS DEN, EDEN CLUB. These places are so Raunchy they will make everything else feel Bland.I didn't know about Thai rule, so I appreciate the warning. Also wrote in my notebook the names of all the raunchy places you mentioned. I knew about Devils Den and will make sure to visit the others as well. That, along with your excellent post listing the BJ Bars have been duly noted. Windex loves RAUNCHY.
The Windex Man
06-02-12, 12:50
Trust me my brother, your going to forget about Rio as soon as one of those Honeys grabs your hand, and places them around her waist, and she turns around and grinds her behind on your thang, while Kanye West is bumping in the backround!
I guarantee you'll be back. Never met ONE BROTHER that hung out in Rio, that didn't go back to Pattaya! Thats real talk.Damn, you never met ONE BROTHER who did Rio that didn't go back to Pattaya? That says a whole lot right there!
Yeah man, I am definitely pumped up and ready to go. Like you mention, I already know that I will be spending a lot of time in the clubs / the discos. I love dancing with women in these types of spots and it seems to give me an indication of how they are going to be in the bedroom. Clubs here in the US are full of shit, but when I travel internationally and hit these spots and see these beautiful women laughing, drinking, sweating and shaking their asses to a hip hop tune, all I can say is "DAMN, this is why I work hard at my job every fucking day, so I can come here and see this!"
The Windex Man
06-02-12, 13:05
I can guarantee you 1 thing. The sex WILL not be outstanding as you wish.
Another thing hot shapely girls is just 1 thing that Thailand does not offer in abundance. Hahahaha.
You are in for a huge letdown. Sorry to break the news to ya sirr!Even though I'm pretty new to this forum, the one thing that I've surely learned from reading old posts is that you constantly say things for the pure enjoyment of pissing other ISG members off, so I'm not sure if I can take your quote seriously. However if that's truly your opinion, it's truly your opinion. I'll still see for myself in November.
NicFrenchy
06-02-12, 13:06
I didn't know about Thai rule, so I appreciate the warning. Also wrote in my notebook the names of all the raunchy places you mentioned. I knew about Devils Den and will make sure to visit the others as well. That, along with your excellent post listing the BJ Bars have been duly noted. Windex loves RAUNCHY.If you love Raunchy then the EDEN CLUB, MANGO, SNOW WHITE and DEVILS DEN are a MUST.
For BJ Bars, there is only one that Matters: SOL (The STAR of LIGHT). Go at the right time of day and it's a public fuck fest in there. Go sit next to a fello monger on the sofa and get blown by 1 or 2 girls, all in the open! (not for the shy guys).
Basically, Always keep your cool, smile a lot and say no when you don't want something. Getting Angry with thais can end badly. In Bangkok, Stay at the Livingstone Lodge, GIOTTO can help you a lot there.
Pointy Stick
06-02-12, 13:48
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and keep these " horror stories " about these chicks in your back pocket. that shit can happen to anyone, vet or rookie. real talk. that's why i tend to kick it mainly in the discos, so i can get a better vibe from a honey. i get a better experience from a chick that's feeln me vs. me feeln them. you feeling me? all money aint good money, unfortunately there's some " wet firecrackers out there". sometimes its better to take a loss, for a better win. that shit in columbia with those secret sukas should have never went down like that. don't tangle with these honeys if you find yourself in a jam. remember its thier country and you don't know who's she's with or what. if you have to pay to get this * out, then that's what you do. i guarantee that " * " is a problem with everyone. tomorrow is a another day. and you got over 40. 000 other women out there.mos def words to live by in thailand. personally i haven't had any problems in thailand but i'm quite conservative and place safety first above all. perusing online pattaya papers should give you an idea what can happen. drugged and robbed.
went past [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) this afternoon and was really depressed at the lineup. fuglies all.
i'll go out to br tonite to see what the talent is looking like but given the crackdown i read about i am not optimistic
@ sankid: what's price range at airport st / lt can be considered reasonable? friggin search function brings up irrelevent shite.
Horny Landoora
06-02-12, 16:52
Even though I'm pretty new to this forum, the one thing that I've surely learned from reading old posts is that you constantly say things for the pure enjoyment of pissing other ISG members off, so I'm not sure if I can take your quote seriously. However if that's truly your opinion, it's truly your opinion. I'll still see for myself in November.There is an IGNORE OPTION on the forum which is recommended in his case. Go ahead with your plans, you would surely have a great time otherwise you would not find Thailand as the most active forum on ISG and then again so many tourists specially single males flying to Thailand!
I'm not sure if I can take your quote seriously.Simply don't, and don't feed the trolls.
The Windex Man
06-02-12, 21:29
There is an IGNORE OPTION on the forum which is recommended in his case. Go ahead with your plans, you would surely have a great time otherwise you would not find Thailand as the most active forum on ISG and then again so many tourists specially single males flying to Thailand!He has been added to the Ignore List. It's obvious based on reading past posts that his mission is to say whatever possible in order to try to create fights / arguments in this forum. There's no need for that. Interested in learning something in this forum, not see people fight all the time.
Looking forward to the Thailand adventure. Thanks!
NicFrenchy
06-03-12, 03:22
He has been added to the Ignore List.I have that Bastard on Ignore as well, but he will not disappear forever, you will still see his posts when someone Quotes him. H444 is like Herpes, you can't really get rid of him, he always keep coming back
CerberusHellio
06-03-12, 07:30
Just had a weird experience with DD. I went through the online booking system to order an outcall service (Gik. 3 PM today). They replied confirming the reservation, all well. Comes 15:30, and the girl has not shown up yet. I email back asking what's going on, and they reply saying they did not send her because they believe this was a fake booking, adding this.
"In the extremely unlikely event we made an error, simply present yourself, in person at our LK Metro establishment, answer a few questions and permit us to copy your passport I'd page for verification. If satisfied, we would then be willing to discuss the possibility of providing you service."
Whoever wrote this sounds liek somebody that has not realized they are in Pattaya.
Has anybody had any positive experience booking outcalls with them?
TaHi Peraxx,
Not possible this was us, but can be reasonably sure it was the fraudulent site "-ww. Devilsdenpattaya. Com" please read on.
We have no single lady booking requests by email for Gik alone at 3pm going all the way back to April. Also, this is not the reply we use for private residences, what we use:
"Hi, we noticed that you are staying in a Villa / condo / house. Unfortunately, since there is no reception, the only way we can confirm your details is in person. Therefore, we require that you stop by the club to pick the ladies up and present valid identification at this time.
Would you like to proceed with this booking request?
Regards, (Manager on Duty)"
The reason for this is obvious, the safety of our staff, for which I make no apology.
The response you received looks like it was written on a phone (the email reply) as the I'd has been autocorrected to I'd. This happens on a phone, but not on a PC.
The correct url is;
www.devilsdenthailand.com
When booking through our site you will receive an auto response;"No-reply", almost immediately confirming merely the receipt of your email. You will then receive a full response within 12-14 hours.
CerberusHellio
06-03-12, 09:45
Just had a weird experience with DD. I went through the online booking system to order an outcall service (Gik. 3 PM today). They replied confirming the reservation, all well. Comes 15:30, and the girl has not shown up yet. I email back asking what's going on, and they reply saying they did not send her because they believe this was a fake booking, adding this.
"In the extremely unlikely event we made an error, simply present yourself, in person at our LK Metro establishment, answer a few questions and permit us to copy your passport I'd page for verification. If satisfied, we would then be willing to discuss the possibility of providing you service."
Whoever wrote this sounds liek somebody that has not realized they are in Pattaya.
Has anybody had any positive experience booking outcalls with them?
TaHi Peraxx, did not know you were still here in Pattaya, just met you in the club so you know the score now anyway. Sorry I had to dash off, I hope you got what you needed.
Cerberus
Crazy4Thai
06-03-12, 14:47
I have that Bastard on Ignore as well (snip)Same here. ISG is better since I decided to IGNORE H444.
Try it, you'll like it.
C4T
Hi Peraxx, did not know you were still here in Pattaya, just met you in the club so you know the score now anyway. Sorry I had to dash off, I hope you got what you needed.
CerberusI seriously doubt we have ever met, but I've been around long enough to have met some of the staff. Maybe next time.
The website I used is devlisdenpattaya. Com, that seems to have pretty much the same content as devilsdenthailand. Com. Can't really tell which is which amongst all claims and counter-claims. Words on the internet are cheap.
Suggestion: use markmonitor. Com, they are really good at lawyering around internet IP.
CerberusHellio
06-04-12, 05:03
I seriously doubt we have ever met, but I've been around long enough to have met some of the staff. Maybe next time.
The website I used is devlisdenpattaya. Com, that seems to have pretty much the same content as devilsdenthailand. Com. Can't really tell which is which amongst all claims and counter-claims. Words on the internet are cheap.
Suggestion: use markmonitor. Com, they are really good at lawyering around internet IP.That is the fraudulent site, check, there will be no telephone number, no link to facebook, all the HIV certs will be at least 6 months out of date. The telephone number is and has been for close on 4 years 087 149-1996. And the real site does not thank some Police General in Thai 555.
My apologies for thinking it was you in the club yesterday, guy with the same problem walked in to sort it out and mentioned ISG so I made the now known to be false assumption that it was you. Thanks for the suggestion regards markmonitor I will follow that up.
Pointy Stick
06-04-12, 11:35
First punt of Pattaya was with Anne at Saigon Girl in Soi 6. The girls wear fishnet suspenders which is a turn-on for me. Anne as usual is from Issan with aged about 28 years but looks to be 20 at most. Only a few tattoos but claimed to have been working there for few weeks. She had a kid but unlike other girls there her stomach was wrinkle free. Usual price was 700 for her 300 to the house.
Upstairs she revealed a near flawless body and after a shitty time at the airport trying to get a taxi Thailand redeemed itself. BBBJ was not that good and it was clearly not her speciality but she can take a good pounding. Doggy was great and I fucked her with a finger in the butt. Not sure if she does anal but I wanted to get off to a slow start.
Just discovered Soi 6 is closed for the day as it is some kind of buddhist holiday so will try other option tonight.
Upstairs she revealed a near flawless body and after a shitty time at the airport trying to get a taxi Thailand redeemed itself.What was the issue getting a taxi at the airport? I'm curious because I've never had a problem at the airport, but I had a problem getting a taxi from patts to the airport in February.
Same here. ISG is better since I decided to IGNORE H444.
Try it, you'll like it.
C4TI did too. Quite confrontational and stupid.
When pointy pointed out Soi6, I thought its a name of yet another go-go bar. But just googled & it seems that its quite a big area with lots of bars & each having loads of girls up & ready for FS. I don't know whether I got it right or wrong? But if thats the case I think I've found my place. Also some of you have mentioned that its quite safe. So does every bar here has 'sex + room' on the menu?If you're driving a motoribike and need to make a U-Turn to get back to 2nd road. Be warned that the next alley type street, Soi 6/1 is full of ladyboys.
You can buy an iPhone or iPad directly online with free shipping http://store.apple.com/th But I went to TukCom and tried to get an iPhone for the same price as the Apple Store. The shops I went to wanted to charge me 1000-2000 baht over the online price after giving me their 'discount' and when I showed them the Apple Store price asking to match it but they kept saying it was an online promotion which it's not. I thought I'd let everybody know that they can buy direct with documentation from Apple if you want one in Thailand.
Pointy Stick
06-05-12, 04:30
What was the issue getting a taxi at the airport? I'm curious because I've never had a problem at the airport, but I had a problem getting a taxi from patts to the airport in February.If you land after 12 then the city train is closed and you're forced to line up and be allocated a taxi to get in the city. I must have it a bad time when a heap of international flights had come in and had to wait 40 minutes. Not cool.
I usually use the Bell travel bus to the airport so no problems there.
BR options were limited last night but managed to pull some MILF-filth and make the most of the situation. Let's hope the situation is an anomalie.
Does anyone know what the deal is with the groups of arabs taking one girl, is it some kind of gangbang situation or does she just go with one of them?
Red Mosquito
06-05-12, 04:39
You can buy an iPhone or iPad directly online with free shipping.
http://store.apple.com/th
But I went to TukCom and tried to get an iPhone for the same price as the Apple Store. The shops I went to wanted to charge me 1000-2000 baht over the online price after giving me their 'discount' and when I showed them the Apple Store price asking to match it but they kept saying it was an online promotion which it's not. I thought I'd let everybody know that they can buy direct with documentation from Apple if you want one in Thailand.Thanks for informing us all about where to get Iphone cheap. This is what the forum is all about, going to Thailand to buy Iphones, and that too dirt cheap, Mongering and allied activities can be done elsewhere as well, but Thailand- Thats the place to go for Iphones, Hell yeah!
Red Mosquito
If you land after 12 then the city train is closed and you're forced to line up and be allocated a taxi to get in the city.Go to the departure level and get one of the cabs dropping off passengers or standing around waiting for customers. Tell them you want meter only if you're going to BKK or negotiate if going to Pats. 1000b will do.
Go to the departure level and get one of the cabs dropping off passengers or standing around waiting for customers. Tell them you want meter only if you're going to BKK or negotiate if going to Pats. 1000b will do.Departure level after midnight is a pain. All asking for outrageous rates and no meter. You spend lots of time in strolling around avoiding police monitoring the lane. Not many taxi coming in at that time as most of flights leave by then and people already came earlier for check in. Its hit and miss, especially since you can't take elevators fom arrival level to departure level, but only escalators.
Gin And Tonic
06-05-12, 05:37
If you land after 12 then the city train is closed and you're forced to line up and be allocated a taxi to get in the city. I must have it a bad time when a heap of international flights had come in and had to wait 40 minutes. Not cool.
I usually use the Bell travel bus to the airport so no problems there.
BR options were limited last night but managed to pull some MILF-filth and make the most of the situation. Let's hope the situation is an anomalie.
Does anyone know what the deal is with the groups of arabs taking one girl, is it some kind of gangbang situation or does she just go with one of them?Seems some Arabs and but mainly Indians enjoy sloppy 8ths or 9ths for the right price
Big Daddy 1906
06-05-12, 05:57
If you land after 12 then the city train is closed and you're forced to line up and be allocated a taxi to get in the city. I must have it a bad time when a heap of international flights had come in and had to wait 40 minutes. Not cool.
I usually use the Bell travel bus to the airport so no problems there.
BR options were limited last night but managed to pull some MILF-filth and make the most of the situation. Let's hope the situation is an anomalie.
Does anyone know what the deal is with the groups of arabs taking one girl, is it some kind of gangbang situation or does she just go with one of them?Sadly, a lot of the time, the girl will go with one Arab (Indian guy) and then when she gets to the flat there are several other dudes there and they all take their turn. Needless to say, that was NOT what she planned. I've seen numerous incidents in which a group will come in and order ONE beer. They paw all the girls and a lot of them don't want to go with them. A lot of the clubs and mom and pop hotels won't cater to them. I've been in situations where there was a group of these guys in front of us going to a go-go and the doormen would tell them that the club was closed yet we would walk up from behind them and they would let us straight in.
Pointy Stick
06-05-12, 06:05
seems some arabs and but mainly indians enjoy sloppy 8ths or 9ths for the right pricei was wondering if it was a cultural or monetary thing that was in play here? i can't really understand why after spending the money on airfares and hotels one would scrimp on the girls and opt for a fmmmmmmm experience just to save 400 baht. i'm assuming that they have their own forums and would know about the costs beforehand. i'd say it was a cultural trait of indians to save money not that this is a bad thing as i do so myself in my own country but i ease up a bit more in los.
there is simply no way i'm willingly putting myself in the same room where i have to view another man's erect penis. i think this also explains my aversion to sol. it totally killed my mood to come out of the bathroom there to see some fat dude getting blown - apologies to nic if that was you. at least in [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) they have curtains.
as a budget orientated monger myself out of choice i don't hit up the gogos for 2500 lt sessions but opt for soi 6 / br and bj bars to make the most of every dollar but there is a limit.
You can buy an iPhone or iPad directly online with free shipping.
http://store.apple.com/th
But I went to TukCom and tried to get an iPhone for the same price as the Apple Store. The shops I went to wanted to charge me 1000-2000 baht over the online price after giving me their 'discount' and when I showed them the Apple Store price asking to match it but they kept saying it was an online promotion which it's not. I thought I'd let everybody know that they can buy direct with documentation from Apple if you want one in Thailand.Sounds good but it will surely be intercepted at the post office, and by the time you're finished paying the customs duties and tariffs, it will probably cost you much more than if you just bought it at Tuk. Com.
NicFrenchy
06-05-12, 07:32
Sounds good but it will surely be intercepted at the post office, and by the time you're finished paying the customs duties and tariffs, it will probably cost you much more than if you just bought it at Tuk. Com.Actually it might not be intercepted. I bought my ipad online at Apple store Singapore and 10 days later, it arrived at my home.
Actually it might not be intercepted. I bought my ipad online at Apple store Singapore and 10 days later, it arrived at my home.You were lucky.
I ordered a Sonic Care electric toothbrush from Amazon. Com that was priced less than $100. It was intercepted at the post office and I had to go fetch it in person. By the time the goons were finished with me the damn toothbrush cost me $150 USD.
I've also had care packages that my daughter sends me from time to time intercepted and I'm forced to pay duties on even less expensive items.
The extra cost one pays at Tuk. Com for a product made in America probably reflects the cutsom duties which must be paid here on imported goods.
It sucks!
Mr Enternational
06-05-12, 09:00
You can buy an iPhone or iPad directly online with free shipping.
http://store.apple.com/th
But I went to TukCom and tried to get an iPhone for the same price as the Apple Store. The shops I went to wanted to charge me 1000-2000 baht over the online price after giving me their 'discount' and when I showed them the Apple Store price asking to match it but they kept saying it was an online promotion which it's not. I thought I'd let everybody know that they can buy direct with documentation from Apple if you want one in Thailand.Did you go to the Apple Store that is on the first floor in the back of Tukcom? Their prices are consistent with what I have seen online.
Mr Enternational
06-05-12, 09:07
I was wondering if it was a cultural or monetary thing that was in play here? I can't really understand why after spending the money on airfares and hotels one would scrimp on the girls and opt for a FMMMMMMM experience just to save 400 baht.A 3 hour flight from India is not as expensive as a flight from Europe or America. In addition those guys usually stay more than 1 person to a room in cheaper hotels. So they are not used to spending as much money as you may be spending for everything. They are super budgeted in every aspect of their holiday, and not just in a gogo bar or on Beach Road.
Departure level after midnight is a pain. All asking for outrageous rates and no meter. You spend lots of time in strolling around avoiding police monitoring the lane. Not many taxi coming in at that time as most of flights leave by then and people already came earlier for check in. Its hit and miss, especially since you can't take elevators fom arrival level to departure level, but only escalators.Not sure where you're getting your info from. There are many flights around and after midnight both incoming and outgoing every night. Between 12 and 1 am there are well over 30 flights scheduled to arrival and 16 for departure. Departure level is a viable alternative to standing in the queued line and the taxis are available at those late hours. Because the drivers ask for a rate doesn't mean you have to pay it, negotiate like you do with everything else in Thailand.
http://www.flightstats.com/go/FlightStatus/flightStatusByAirport.do
not sure where you're getting your info from. there are many flights around and after midnight both incoming and outgoing every night. between 12 and 1 am there are well over 30 flights scheduled to arrival and 16 for departure. departure level is a viable alternative to standing in the queued line and the taxis are available at those late hours. because the drivers ask for a rate doesn't mean you have to pay it, negotiate like you do with everything else in thailand.
http://www.flightstats.com/go/flightstatus/flightstatusbyairport.dolot of the passengers do not arrive at airport at midnight for a 1am flight, that is what i mean when i say there are less taxis at midnight dropping passengers. the guy was landing after midnight, most likley in the ebst scenarioo out at 12. 30/1am. this puts him in the batch of the passengers arriving with those 30 or so flights you mention. i use departure level as much as i can but if i drop my eyes to the taxi level and do not see much people i save the hassle and go straight there. sometime police gets pretty much annoying with the taxi drivers and hassle them. so if youa re to obvious (it is already obvious anyhow) such as playing openly before their eyes they can't close them and start whistling around tothe drivers to move over.
had a driver who was fined after having picked me up. he had his lcience confirep001ed adn had to go the day after to get it back (with a fine, most likely) he was not happy at all 8probably it is in the agenda being caught from time to time).
negotiation is fine, but when you have one after the other (5-6) ignoring your (reasonable) counter-offer, well, i am not going to stroll much to save maybe 100b.
i use departure mainly to overcome the long waiting downstair, rather than for the 100b. speculation. especially at midnight or so, when you just want to go to your hotel after a flight.
Pointy Stick
06-05-12, 10:21
It's crazy the number of arrivals after 12. There is clearly a demand for a midnight bus run to Pattaya. The bus companies could have easily filled up 3 maybe 4 coachloads and charged 300 baht to cover costs.
Re: Indians.
I been to Pattaya with a few NRI buddies but they were never refused entry. Maybe its how you carry yourself in general, go in smaller groups and dressed decently it makes all the difference to Thais. I have also noticed they tend to go for the fat chicks so maybe the gogos aren't really suited to them although whether this is due to personal taste or budgetary constraints I do not know.
Did you go to the Apple Store that is on the first floor in the back of Tukcom? Their prices are consistent with what I have seen online.I bought it online. I bought from "Winner" before and that looked like an iPhone store in TukCom but it just disappeared one day. I think buying online and having it tied to your apple account would help out if you need warranty repairs in the future.
Sounds good but it will surely be intercepted at the post office, and by the time you're finished paying the customs duties and tariffs, it will probably cost you much more than if you just bought it at Tuk. Com.They send direct to you through DHL if you are staying in Thailand. You sign for the package and it takes 3-5 days.
Thanks for informing us all about where to get Iphone cheap. This is what the forum is all about, going to Thailand to buy Iphones, and that too dirt cheap, Mongering and allied activities can be done elsewhere as well, but Thailand- Thats the place to go for Iphones, Hell yeah!
Red MosquitoIt's a good idea to have a phone so you can communicate with mongers and who you might want to bang in the future. So after you get your cheap iPhone (and thai translation app! And WhatsApp!) you could head over to the new bars in Pratumnak. There's TheSquare on Pratumnak Hill at Soi 3 (Lounge, Zen, Eye Candy) , and The Lodge at the bottom of Soi 4, and Exxxotica on Pratumnak Road. Here's a sexy video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxrFm9LiMd4
They send direct to you through DHL if you are staying in Thailand. You sign for the package and it takes 3-5 days.It still has to clear customs, whether it's DHL Fed Ex or whatever, the authorities know how to fleece you.
NicFrenchy
06-05-12, 11:31
Sorry guys, but I have done many times the BKK-PTY & PTY-BKK by car on the same day without hassle.
Why not combine an "Apple" Trip with Some Mangoes and go back home?
I mean why not go to BKK Quickly, go to the Apple Store to buy the iphone (they have a 6 months no interest plan) , go to Mango Massage, fuck a mango up the cherry, and then go back to Pattaya.
The whole experience could be done in 6 hours.
I've seen reported a taxi cost of 1000 to Pattaya several times, from the airport, but how much is reasonable when you get a taxi in BKK center? Same cost? I tried a few taxis last time and none would go for 1000. We gave up and I ended up paying 1400.
Mr Enternational
06-05-12, 13:37
I've seen reported a taxi cost of 1000 to Pattaya several times, from the airport, but how much is reasonable when you get a taxi in BKK center? Same cost? I tried a few taxis last time and none would go for 1000. We gave up and I ended up paying 1400.The other day I gave a guy 1300 from Nana. I met him the night before when he took me to the airport on the meter to pick up my Japanese friend. He went 140 all the way so I had to have him the next day to get back home. The last guy wouldn't go over 100 so you can understand my pain.
I've seen reported a taxi cost of 1000 to Pattaya several times, from the airport, but how much is reasonable when you get a taxi in BKK center? Same cost? I tried a few taxis last time and none would go for 1000. We gave up and I ended up paying 1400.If I well remember reading in here it is appr 1200. The bests is to set the meter and let it do the count. I once stipulated a forth and back trip somewhere with a tax and he quoted 1500b. When we left he set the meter and I was worried it did not stick to the agreed price as the meeter was running. When were back, after an undefinite and unpredicatable stop at destination, the meter, still running, showed 1475b. The guy made a good prediciton!
Sorry guys, but I have done many times the BKK-PTY & PTY-BKK by car on the same day without hassle.
Why not combine an "Apple" Trip with Some Mangoes and go back home?
I mean why not go to BKK Quickly, go to the Apple Store to buy the iphone (they have a 6 months no interest plan) , go to Mango Massage, fuck a mango up the cherry, and then go back to Pattaya.
The whole experience could be done in 6 hours.Do those 6 hrs includealso a stop to unlock your I-phone? .
Hotman 666
06-05-12, 14:02
I've seen reported a taxi cost of 1000 to Pattaya several times, from the airport, but how much is reasonable when you get a taxi in BKK center? Same cost? I tried a few taxis last time and none would go for 1000. We gave up and I ended up paying 1400.I generally pay 1100 to 1300 Baht for a private car from Suriwongse Road to Pattaya (inc Tolls.)
Two weeks ago I paid 1800 Baht for a nice, newish 'luxury minibus' for 4 people with lots of luggage.
Hotman.
Red Mosquito
06-05-12, 16:02
I have also noticed they tend to go for the fat chicks so maybe the gogos aren't really suited to them although whether this is due to personal taste or budgetary constraints I do not know.
I'd say it was a cultural trait of Indians to save money not that this is a bad thing as I do so myself in my own country but I ease up a bit more in LOS.
There is simply no way I'm willingly putting myself in the same room where I have to view another man's erect penis.
As a budget orientated monger myself out of choice I don't hit up the gogos for 2500 LT sessions but opt for Soi 6 / BR and BJ bars to make the most of every dollar but there is a limit.Hmm. Just saw some discussion happening around Indians and thought that as I am one from the country, might clarify the air a wee bit from my side. I have mongered reasonably extensively in Thailand and the ' uninitiated / first timer / miser / extremely low budget' Indian is someone who brings all of his ilk a bad name, but all fingers arent equal, and not everyone behaves in the same manner. I will tell the problems:
1. Most Indians come to Thailand as the tickets are really cheap and its foreign travel which is considered upmarket, at a price which beats the domestic airfares in some cases!. I guess the going rate should be 300USD for a return trip to Suvarnabhumi from Delhi or so. When a person flying out of Country for the first time comes to a culturally different society like Thailand, (in India open sex is still a taboo, more so among the lower strata of the society as well as the medium rung- prostitution is banned and enforced much strongly unlike Thailand. Nudity is uncommon). When such a person comes across to Thailand he has a mental imagery of being in a harem where he will be handed over a Thai girl with Visa on arrival. A sex starved person with a hige erection wants to place his weenie in any hole thats available, things like quality and experience can go F*ck themself. Hence most Indians would prefer the cheapest, as long as she's a human. Too bad, but not everyone is well to do and they only want a F*ck, period.
2. I would say some 50-70% of Indian tourists could be small time shopkeepers who buy loads of Thai clothing, its very popular in India- the fit and finish and sizes suits the Asians much better than the Europeans. So there's this huge demand. When these shopkeepers operating on wafer thin margins come to Thailand, then all money for mongering is going from their miniscule profits, and then again- they swivel towards the cheapest available C*nt.
3. The most irritating aspect- Nude shows are non existent in India. Cabarets were once popular but largely extinct now. When you come from a society where nudity is a strict no no, you really want to have a good time ina place where its culturally acceptable. The Indians would head to go go bars, see nude girls gyrating on poles, would NOT pick any chick, go back to their rooms and jerk off in the memories of what they just saw. This means no business for bar owner, no ladies drinks, nothing. Just free crowd ogling at girls. Thus, Rainbow has perhaps restricted entry of Indians and its the case of a few rats bringing a bad name to everyone in the community. The bard would allow would allow the white skinned men even though they may not pick anyone, but they will not allow a loaded Indian. And yes, my fellow men are to be blamed for it. Its a business both ways right? You can't just go inside a bar to have a huge erection and then use your hand later to ease yourself off LOL. No money exchange, no business.
4. A combination of first timers and shopkeepers would rent rooms with twin occupancy and both men will stay in same room. Its stretching your money to the hilt, irritating hilt I shall say. When one guy gets a girl, the other will sit in the lobby or wait and then he will take the same girl or different girl and bang her. The bargain price for a girl where she is getting two men one after the other would be lower than her going to two different clients- she saves time this way. This is again looking at sex as a ten minute fetish one has to have to get rid of the tension in the loins, the face of the girl, experience, figure be damned.
Unfortunate as it may be, seasoned, accomplished and reasonable mongers from the land of the Kama Sutra would also lose out on some good experiences courtesy a generic view of the Go Go bar owners community and fellow white skinned mongers.
I have always ensured the girls I have been with have a good time and its mutually pleasurable, whether the experience has been in the States, Macau, Thailand or elsewhere. And I am happy that I have rejected more girls than I have chosen. I guess its a case of being okay with the idea of spending and not look at the whole thing as drilling your dong in a hole for five minutes and get done with it, as also the fact that quality comes at a price and its the experience, not the act that matters.
Not afraid to call a spade a spade and the majority of Indian mongers in Thailand is something I would not like to be associated with as a friend or acquaintance. I know they are there to have probably the cheapest F*ck of their lives and the eternal kick of having screwed a foreigner or just to see nude girls gyrating in go go bars, go back to their hotel rooms and jerk off. I am happy to NOT belong to the herd and being Indian myself, would say that one has to cultivate the habit, grow up from being sex starved to such an extent that any female body would do and be okay to look at mongering in Thailand as an experience, not a quickie activity. Fortunately I was not so sex starved courtesy a great Girl friend, but for many others of my ilk the sexual frustration combined with keeping a tight grip on ones money results in unpleasant behavior all around. The majority defines the perception, but heck, so be it. The ratio of genuine players to suckers may be skewed, more in India than in other countries, but genuine good players do exist.
And thats the long and short of it.
Red Mosquito
Member #4387
06-05-12, 16:23
When going somewhere by taxi in LOS the most important parameter for me is how to survive. It is not all about the price. I pay mostly 1500/2200BHT from Grand President to Pattaya / Hua Hin incl tollroad. What is important to me is I have my own working seatbelt and that the driver don't drive like there is no tomorrow. And ofcorurse a nice, relatively new and spacious car I prefer.
I am not, in anyway, impressed by most of the taxidrivers driving skills. They have no ability to plan ahead, use their eyes and look ahead. Even if they se breakinglights (atleast I see them) from a distance and traffic is queing up in front (slows down) they don't break until they realy have to and I find that relatively annoying. Maby this is not strange when I hear stories on how they obtain driving licenses in LOS.
NicFrenchy
06-05-12, 16:30
Do those 6 hrs include also a stop to unlock your I-phone? .Of course, your iphone will be unlocked at EMPORIUM while you are busy exploring the Dark-Side of your Mango Girl
Pointy Stick
06-05-12, 16:43
Thanks Red Mosquito for the interesting perspective.
To come to Thailand, roll up to a gogo and then go back to your hotel room and be reduced to masturbation is more than a little depressing. I wonder if cheaper end of the indian monger market will make their way to Cambodia. I once had a threesome there for $USD10 in '08 although of course price would have certainly risen.
Is this a bitter indictment on the sexual mores of Indian mongers and their expectations in general that they're satisfied with a 10 minute pump and dump rather than pay more for a full on GFE/PSE which they can then take those memories to their deathbed smiling?
On a brighter note I've just come back from a Soi 6 session at Red Light with Fern. She's 23 (so she claimed) with a decent body and no tattoos! Claimed she had only worked there for a couple of month and from what I discerned she wasn't hardcore but more for a semi GF experience. Not much English but she does have a sense of humour. Does an adequate BBBJ but its clearly not her forte but I go to BJ's for that. REALLY like to DFK which is why I classed her as semi-DFE and not a slutty hardcore performance. All up a decent experience. Cost was 300 for the room + 700 to her with 100 as a tip. Declined a photo so I think she only her for a brief visit.
Hmm. Just saw some discussion happening around Indians and thought that as I am one from the country, might clarify the air a wee bit from my side. I have mongered reasonably extensively in Thailand and the ' uninitiated / first timer / miser / extremely low budget' Indian is someone who brings all of his ilk a bad name, but all fingers arent equal, and not everyone behaves in the same manner. I will tell the problems:
1. Most Indians come to Thailand as the tickets are really cheap and its foreign travel which is considered upmarket, at a price which beats the domestic airfares in some cases. I guess the going rate should be 300USD for a return trip to Suvarnabhumi from Delhi or so. When a person flying out of Country for the first time comes to a culturally different society like Thailand, (in India open sex is still a taboo, more so among the lower strata of the society as well as the medium rung- prostitution is banned and enforced much strongly unlike Thailand. Nudity is uncommon). When such a person comes across to Thailand he has a mental imagery of being in a harem where he will be handed over a Thai girl with Visa on arrival. A sex starved person with a hige erection wants to place his weenie in any hole thats available, things like quality and experience can go F*ck themself. Hence most Indians would prefer the cheapest, as long as she's a human. Too bad, but not everyone is well to do and they only want a F*ck, period.
2. I would say some 50-70% of Indian tourists could be small time shopkeepers who buy loads of Thai clothing, its very popular in India- the fit and finish and sizes suits the Asians much better than the Europeans. So there's this huge demand. When these shopkeepers operating on wafer thin margins come to Thailand, then all money for mongering is going from their miniscule profits, and then again- they swivel towards the cheapest available C*nt.
3. The most irritating aspect- Nude shows are non existent in India. Cabarets were once popular but largely extinct now. When you come from a society where nudity is a strict no no, you really want to have a good time ina place where its culturally acceptable. The Indians would head to go go bars, see nude girls gyrating on poles, would NOT pick any chick, go back to their rooms and jerk off in the memories of what they just saw. This means no business for bar owner, no ladies drinks, nothing. Just free crowd ogling at girls. Thus, Rainbow has perhaps restricted entry of Indians and its the case of a few rats bringing a bad name to everyone in the community. The bard would allow would allow the white skinned men even though they may not pick anyone, but they will not allow a loaded Indian. And yes, my fellow men are to be blamed for it. Its a business both ways right? You can't just go inside a bar to have a huge erection and then use your hand later to ease yourself off LOL. No money exchange, no business.
4. A combination of first timers and shopkeepers would rent rooms with twin occupancy and both men will stay in same room. Its stretching your money to the hilt, irritating hilt I shall say. When one guy gets a girl, the other will sit in the lobby or wait and then he will take the same girl or different girl and bang her. The bargain price for a girl where she is getting two men one after the other would be lower than her going to two different clients- she saves time this way. This is again looking at sex as a ten minute fetish one has to have to get rid of the tension in the loins, the face of the girl, experience, figure be damned.
Unfortunate as it may be, seasoned, accomplished and reasonable mongers from the land of the Kama Sutra would also lose out on some good experiences courtesy a generic view of the Go Go bar owners community and fellow white skinned mongers.
I have always ensured the girls I have been with have a good time and its mutually pleasurable, whether the experience has been in the States, Macau, Thailand or elsewhere. And I am happy that I have rejected more girls than I have chosen. I guess its a case of being okay with the idea of spending and not look at the whole thing as drilling your dong in a hole for five minutes and get done with it, as also the fact that quality comes at a price and its the experience, not the act that matters.
Not afraid to call a spade a spade and the majority of Indian mongers in Thailand is something I would not like to be associated with as a friend or acquaintance. I know they are there to have probably the cheapest F*ck of their lives and the eternal kick of having screwed a foreigner or just to see nude girls gyrating in go go bars, go back to their hotel rooms and jerk off. I am happy to NOT belong to the herd and being Indian myself, would say that one has to cultivate the habit, grow up from being sex starved to such an extent that any female body would do and be okay to look at mongering in Thailand as an experience, not a quickie activity. Fortunately I was not so sex starved courtesy a great Girl friend, but for many others of my ilk the sexual frustration combined with keeping a tight grip on ones money results in unpleasant behavior all around. The majority defines the perception, but heck, so be it. The ratio of genuine players to suckers may be skewed, more in India than in other countries, but genuine good players do exist.
And thats the long and short of it.
Red MosquitoI do not think Indians are treated badly because of the reasons given above.
1. Many Indians cannot control themselves. They are loud and abnoxious irrespective of the locations. Even in the planes they talk in very loud tones irritating everybody. The reason maybe because with so much population Indians have lost respect for other human beings.
2. In India there is a definite ladder system in socio economic order. Upper ladder people treat lower ladder people very badly. So when they travel they think bars, bargirls can be treated as being from the lower rungs of the ladder. They do not even stop to think about the different way they have to behave in other countries cobtrary to how they behave in India.
Thai people always have respect for each other irrespective of poor or rich.
3. It is natural for any monger to look for cheapest way to have fun. It is not exclusive for Indians. You cannot take bargirls word for that. They change their talk according to what suits them.
If thai bar owners try to exclude all cheap charlies they would have no business. Do not know why Indians got the " Cheap charlie " name. Maybe because tourists from India long time ago could not compete with free spending American servicemen. Nowadays most Indians have money and will spend.
So bar owners really should not discriminite. They are loosing good business because there are plenty of Indians who are going to Thailand than before.
If you land after 12 then the city train is closed and you're forced to line up and be allocated a taxi to get in the city. I must have it a bad time when a heap of international flights had come in and had to wait 40 minutes. Not cool.I always arrange in advance to have one of the many Pattaya taxi companies pick me up at the airport. The cost is 1, 000 THB, and a driver is waving a sign with my name on it outside the arrival gates. 90 minutes later I'm at my hotel in Pattaya. Just google "Taxi Pattaya" and you'll find about 6 companies that provide this service. I've used it about 15 times so far, and it's always been fantastic. The drivers usually speak little or no English, but their boss has given them directions in Thai, so they know exactly where to take me. The cars are clean, comfortable, and safe.
But on my last return home from Pattaya to BKK in February, as I was waiting for my cab from the same company to pick me up at my hotel at 3:30 AM, they never showed up. When I called, they admitted that they had mistakenly written down the wrong date in their appointment book, and they didn't have a driver to send for me. YIKES. At 3:45 in the morning there were no cabs to be seen anywhere, but luckily one of the security guards from my hotel got on his motorbike and rode around town until he found a taxi-meter for me.
Next time I'll be certain to make arrangements with 2 cab companies to ensure that at least one shows up.
The extra cost one pays at Tuk. Com for a product made in America probably reflects the cutsom duties which must be paid here on imported goods.
It sucks!The iPad is designed in America, but made in China. I ordered one directly from Apple in the US last Wednesday, and I've been tracking its progress from Chengdu, China to Guangzhou, China to Anchorage, Alaska to Memphis, Tennessee to Las Vegas. And it had to stop and clear customs in Anchorage just like humans do. I won't have to pay any duties or extra taxes when it arrives here tomorrow. You would think that they would have a similar setup for Thailand.
Pagal Chacha
06-05-12, 17:50
Hmm. Just saw some discussion happening around Indians and thought that as I am one from the country, might clarify the air a wee bit from my side. I have mongered reasonably extensively in Thailand and the ' uninitiated / first timer / miser / extremely low budget' Indian is someone who brings all of his ilk a bad name, but all fingers arent equal, and not everyone behaves in the same manner. I will tell the problems:
1. Most Indians come to Thailand as the tickets are really cheap and its foreign travel which is considered upmarket, at a price which beats the domestic airfares in some cases. I guess the going rate should be 300USD for a return trip to Suvarnabhumi from Delhi or so. When a person flying out of Country for the first time comes to a culturally different society like Thailand, (in India open sex is still a taboo, more so among the lower strata of the society as well as the medium rung- prostitution is banned and enforced much strongly unlike Thailand. Nudity is uncommon). When such a person comes across to Thailand he has a mental imagery of being in a harem where he will be handed over a Thai girl with Visa on arrival. A sex starved person with a hige erection wants to place his weenie in any hole thats available, things like quality and experience can go F*ck themself. Hence most Indians would prefer the cheapest, as long as she's a human. Too bad, but not everyone is well to do and they only want a F*ck, period.
2. I would say some 50-70% of Indian tourists could be small time shopkeepers who buy loads of Thai clothing, its very popular in India- the fit and finish and sizes suits the Asians much better than the Europeans. So there's this huge demand. When these shopkeepers operating on wafer thin margins come to Thailand, then all money for mongering is going from their miniscule profits, and then again- they swivel towards the cheapest available C*nt.
3. The most irritating aspect- Nude shows are non existent in India. Cabarets were once popular but largely extinct now. When you come from a society where nudity is a strict no no, you really want to have a good time ina place where its culturally acceptable. The Indians would head to go go bars, see nude girls gyrating on poles, would NOT pick any chick, go back to their rooms and jerk off in the memories of what they just saw. This means no business for bar owner, no ladies drinks, nothing. Just free crowd ogling at girls. Thus, Rainbow has perhaps restricted entry of Indians and its the case of a few rats bringing a bad name to everyone in the community. The bard would allow would allow the white skinned men even though they may not pick anyone, but they will not allow a loaded Indian. And yes, my fellow men are to be blamed for it. Its a business both ways right? You can't just go inside a bar to have a huge erection and then use your hand later to ease yourself off LOL. No money exchange, no business.
4. A combination of first timers and shopkeepers would rent rooms with twin occupancy and both men will stay in same room. Its stretching your money to the hilt, irritating hilt I shall say. When one guy gets a girl, the other will sit in the lobby or wait and then he will take the same girl or different girl and bang her. The bargain price for a girl where she is getting two men one after the other would be lower than her going to two different clients- she saves time this way. This is again looking at sex as a ten minute fetish one has to have to get rid of the tension in the loins, the face of the girl, experience, figure be damned.
Unfortunate as it may be, seasoned, accomplished and reasonable mongers from the land of the Kama Sutra would also lose out on some good experiences courtesy a generic view of the Go Go bar owners community and fellow white skinned mongers.
I have always ensured the girls I have been with have a good time and its mutually pleasurable, whether the experience has been in the States, Macau, Thailand or elsewhere. And I am happy that I have rejected more girls than I have chosen. I guess its a case of being okay with the idea of spending and not look at the whole thing as drilling your dong in a hole for five minutes and get done with it, as also the fact that quality comes at a price and its the experience, not the act that matters.
Not afraid to call a spade a spade and the majority of Indian mongers in Thailand is something I would not like to be associated with as a friend or acquaintance. I know they are there to have probably the cheapest F*ck of their lives and the eternal kick of having screwed a foreigner or just to see nude girls gyrating in go go bars, go back to their hotel rooms and jerk off. I am happy to NOT belong to the herd and being Indian myself, would say that one has to cultivate the habit, grow up from being sex starved to such an extent that any female body would do and be okay to look at mongering in Thailand as an experience, not a quickie activity. Fortunately I was not so sex starved courtesy a great Girl friend, but for many others of my ilk the sexual frustration combined with keeping a tight grip on ones money results in unpleasant behavior all around. The majority defines the perception, but heck, so be it. The ratio of genuine players to suckers may be skewed, more in India than in other countries, but genuine good players do exist.
And thats the long and short of it.
Red MosquitoDespite your adequate and reasonable explanation I bet someone will extrapalate this to thier narrow view point if thinking or xenophobia, you get wide spectrum of pepole in every community, yes some Indians are 'cheap charlies' because the why have been exposed to pverty and you can put it down to survival insinct, on other side of of coin I have seen some Europeans on beach road would put animal kingdom to shame
The iPad is designed in America, but made in China. I ordered one directly from Apple in the US last Wednesday, and I've been tracking its progress from Chengdu, China to Guangzhou, China to Anchorage, Alaska to Memphis, Tennessee to Las Vegas. And it had to stop and clear customs in Anchorage just like humans do. I won't have to pay any duties or extra taxes when it arrives here tomorrow. You would think that they would have a similar setup for Thailand.Some are selling "all duties paid", ie delivered to your door with import duties pre-paid, and someare selling "free customs depot", ie import duties not paid. Thre is no way a commercial shipment escapes the customs when borders are crossed, unless it is a sample of small value.
Does anyone think that governments are letting tons of goods into their countries free of any duty? Dreamers!
Hmm. Just saw some discussion happening around Indians and thought that as I am one from the country, might clarify the air a wee bit from my side. I have mongered reasonably extensively in Thailand and the ' uninitiated / first timer / miser / extremely low budget' Indian is someone who brings all of his ilk a bad name, but all fingers arent equal, and not everyone behaves in the same manner. I will tell the problems: (___) And thats the long and short of it.
Red MosquitoAll very well and neatly said!
Coming also from an involved party shows that the "issue" is not ignored and quite evident. Well done! And now. Hat about telling us the address of that MP XY where Miss YZ does fantastic *§§ jobs at a reasonably price and the telephone number ends by 6969 and. And. And. !
Just kidding, man. Take care and happy mongering
Red Mosquito
06-05-12, 18:35
i do not think indians are treated badly because of the reasons given above.
1. many indians cannot control themselves. they are loud and abnoxious irrespective of the locations. even in the planes they talk in very loud tones irritating everybody. the reason maybe because with so much population indians have lost respect for other human beings.
2. in india there is a definite ladder system in socio economic order. upper ladder people treat lower ladder people very badly. so when they travel they think bars, bargirls can be treated as being from the lower rungs of the ladder. they do not even stop to think about the different way they have to behave in other countries cobtrary to how they behave in india.
thai people always have respect for each other irrespective of poor or rich.
3. it is natural for any monger to look for cheapest way to have fun. it is not exclusive for indians. you cannot take bargirls word for that. they change their talk according to what suits them.
if thai bar owners try to exclude all cheap charlies they would have no business. do not know why indians got the " cheap charlie " name. maybe because tourists from india long time ago could not compete with free spending american servicemen. nowadays most indians have money and will spend.
so bar owners really should not discriminite. they are loosing good business because there are plenty of indians who are going to thailand than before.hi man,
i agree to your responses to an extent but wouldn't relate them in totality to indians' mongering habits.
point 1- yes, many times when i am headed to bkok in thai airways flight i find loud and irritating fellowmen talking to each other in loud volume. this may be a bad trait per se but i don't think that this shall make them not cross the entry gate in go go bard, where anyhow the music is so loud. lol.
point 2-the indians would treat bar girl and bars as lower down the order. (trust me i don't think they dare to, the thai currency has 74% higher valuation than indian rupee) , couple it with the concept of being in a foreign land- i don't think they will take such liberties to show anyone down.
point 3-i agree its natural for anyone to find cheapest mongering. but not to the extent of closing eyes to experience and only wanting a 'female' per se, however ugly she looks. so there's a difference.
most indians would be in thailand owing to whole business trips of importing clothes wholesale to india, or on budget foreign trips. the ones with immense money would probably plan a vacation in europe or some exquisite place like vegas / hawaii.
since the whole middle / bottom rung crowd of india, mostly unpolished, sex starved at that is something thats coming to thailand, we may be getting a skewed picture of indians in thailand per se.
so i agree to your points in generic tone, but couldn't relate them to how it affects an indian's mongering sensibilities.
cheers.
red mosquito
Red Mosquito
06-05-12, 18:43
Despite your adequate and reasonable explanation I bet someone will extrapalate this to thier narrow view point if thinking or xenophobia, you get wide spectrum of pepole in every community, yes some Indians are 'cheap charlies' because the why have been exposed to pverty and you can put it down to survival insinct, on other side of of coin I have seen some Europeans on beach road would put animal kingdom to shameI agree Chachaji,
Though I was just trying to be brutally frank and brusque on the issue despite of myself being an Indian, I suspect that it may lead to some fellow mongers strengthening their contrived notions about Indians which I thought of as an after thought but then, thought of letting go.
I fully agree on your point of their being cheap charlies in India and in Europe and in US- essentially boils down to what you want to do with your money or how much do you want to stretch your last cent, at the risk of being irritatingly miser in world view.
Its just that the pie of Indians who are thronging Bangkok may not represent the suave, polished, decent, well heeled mongers with good etiquettes and that reflects in their overalll behaviour here and thus creates prejudice. Almost all the Indians I have got a chance to speak to while boarding a flight to Bangkok are small time traders of Palika Bazaar or Ghaffar Market in Delhi who want to keep the expenses minimum and are reasonably unabashed about it and thus end up getting projected as cheapter rowdies.
A very good article on Indians in Thailand which I came across recently, not related to their mongering escapades though. Very well written, and truthful. :
http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/art-culture/kill-the-indian-first
Keep buzzing.
Red mosquito
Pointy Stick
06-05-12, 18:46
If thai bar owners try to exclude all cheap charlies they would have no business. Do not know why Indians got the " Cheap charlie " name. Maybe because tourists from India long time ago could not compete with free spending American servicemen. Nowadays most Indians have money and will spend.
So bar owners really should not discriminite. They are loosing good business because there are plenty of Indians who are going to Thailand than before.I don't think that that there was ever a mass indian tourist market until now apart from traders and businessmen. It's only in the last 10 years or so has there been a wealthy middle class there.
Bar owners do have a right to discriminate because they are running a business. How long would a bar survive if its clientele brought a beer to share amongst a group of 5 drinking out of straws? The beef is that they can't discriminate wisely and do so wholly on race alone. Maybe if there was a modest entry fee which included a drink then this would sort out the wheat from the chaff.
I was wandering along BR tonight before the thunderstorm broke out and saw a well heeled middle-aged indian couple trying to conclude a deal with a FL there. It's good to know some Indians are up for a little Pattaya style experimentation to spice up their marriage
Good read, mosquito. Thanks.
Red Mosquito
06-05-12, 19:03
Thanks Red Mosquito for the interesting perspective.
To come to Thailand, roll up to a gogo and then go back to your hotel room and be reduced to masturbation is more than a little depressing. I wonder if cheaper end of the indian monger market will make their way to Cambodia. I once had a threesome there for $USD10 in '08 although of course price would have certainly risen.
Is this a bitter indictment on the sexual mores of Indian mongers and their expectations in general that they're satisfied with a 10 minute pump and dump rather than pay more for a full on GFE / PSE which they can then take those memories to their deathbed smiling?Yes it is depressing indeed PS, but many people. Shopkeepers and small time cloth merchants, who come here would do just that- for them- its a saving. LOL. Using what nature gave us- a hand.
In the brighter cities of Delhi / Mumbai etc, sexual mores are changing, people are more liberated, extra marital affairs (and divorces) are on the rise, promiscuity plays a big part in these cases all along, so sex is not so much of a taboo in changing India- it may not be in your face, but the dish is available and piping hot, you just need to look for it. But at the risk of sounding repetitive, Bangkok attracts an Indian tourist of a different kind and that F*cks it up. Had the ticket prices been equivalent to those for a return trip to US / Australia / NZ, you would have seen the slick Indian at work and he would not hesitate to mingle with the chicks he thinks are the best for him, pay them well (or not, if the chicks fall for him) and have a jollly good time. Education, riches and exposure to diversities in culture, more forward cultures than Indian, if possible are changing the equations and how.
Cheers!
Red Mosquito
I think every nation has its own cheap charlies. The size of the traveling population makes some citizenships standing out more than others. For sake of argument if Malta would have 50% of its travelers being "cc" they might get around unnoticed. If India has 0. 50% it will be visible and if PRC had 0, 01% God bless the visited country! A mongering destination, such as Thailand, being low priced also at mid-high levels, attracts more mongerers looking for The garden of eden. Coming from a country were the purchase power is low, they want to maximize their "investment". So more for less, to come back and tell the friends "how many", not "what quality". India has a large population, hence the high numbers. In their contry the stunners are unreachable, hence the low quality expectations paired to the price factor. 1000b is good money in Thailand and so is in India too, hence the need to spend much less, based on a daily budget, linked to the need of doing many. If I allot 5000b a day, I can chose to have 4 or 5 times a FL at nana park, or 1 time a memorable one, my choice, but still 5000b is for the daily fun. They probably allot 1/2000b and want at least 4-5, so they move to the 4/500b girls, with all what this means. Indians are also the closest non Asian visitors so they come in numbers and also stand out more.
Horny Landoora
06-05-12, 19:45
Indians are also the closest non Asian visitors so they come in numbers and also stand out more.One thing for sure which the world would have to get used to is seeing more Indians everywhere. India and China are emerging powers. The disposable income in these countries is on the rise and the outbound tourism from them is also going to increase steadily! This results in cheap air ticket offers for people and considering from price point a holiday in Thailand is cheaper than someplaces itself in India people throng to Thailand for their short term holidays! Apart from that the exchange conversion is also in their favour as a baht is cheaper than Dollar or Euro!
Generally budgeting is good and even Bargaining is also a way to have maximum return on an investment. Although Indians go overboard. Other issue is that even after bargaining they might refuse to deal which hence results in a mindset among people generally of their miserly nature and time wasting attitude! Then there are some other tactics they play once they finalize a deal to re negotiate the terms or somehow get a discount. This is a problem inherent in the culture I guess from the household ladies who buy daily groceries to the top shot entrepreneurs who conduct business.
I have read much about the "smelly" INDIANS on this forum although frankly speaking I personally find that people from PRC have a distinct smell to them and their food habits! But there are going to be all types of people from everywhere! Just same as how you would find stinking hippies in India who are still stuck in 70's and move around in questionable attire with strange habits! I am an Indian myself but I won't probably fit the category many describe on the forum. I stay at prime Hotels, eat at good places, use the best colognes, choose generally overpriced girls without negotiation and have a different attitude than described in some cases. Once in Thailand many girls say am not an Indian and they have similar tales to tell!
Considering the above I suggest that whosoever has complains now adapt to the situation because in the coming days ahead you would see a lot more than you have already seen and might be even worse because old habits die hard in every culture!
One thing for sure which the world would have to get used to is seeing more Indians everywhere. India and China are emerging powers. The disposable income in these countries is on the rise and the outbound tourism from them is also going to increase steadily! (__)
Considering the above I suggest that whosoever has complains now adapt to the situation because in the coming days ahead you would see a lot more than you have already seen and might be even worse because old habits die hard in every culture!Fully agreeing on this summary. I have also seen a growing presence of brazilians here and there (I mean in general, not specifically Thailand) , Another BRIC country that, thanks also to the middle east air carriers can easily come to Asia, without the hassles they ahd in the past to go via Europe.
Tony Hoeprano
06-06-12, 04:14
You were lucky.
I ordered a Sonic Care electric toothbrush from Amazon. Com that was priced less than $100. It was intercepted at the post office and I had to go fetch it in person. By the time the goons were finished with me the damn toothbrush cost me $150 USD.
I've also had care packages that my daughter sends me from time to time intercepted and I'm forced to pay duties on even less expensive items.
The extra cost one pays at Tuk. Com for a product made in America probably reflects the cutsom duties which must be paid here on imported goods.
It sucks!Did you order it directly from amazon? I think if you had someone repack it in another box and had it look like it was used, it would have went right through. I ordered some shirts from online but had a relative send me the shirts via us postal service and had no problems!
Did you order it directly from amazon?Yes, I did.
I think if you had someone repack it in another box and had it look like it was used, it would have went right through. I ordered some shirts from online but had a relative send me the shirts via us postal service and had no problems!That's possible and a good idea but it's still going to be hit or miss. I'd like to do it that way for a new computer but I have my doubts that it would work.
This take on Top Gun is hilarious! Maverick and Iceman will never seem the same again to me now.
Did you ever see the movie Sleep with Me? In the party scene, the Quentin Tarantino character gives his hilarious spin on Top Gun. Here is the complete Tarantino monologe from Sleep with Me:
Tarantino: "What is Top Gun? You think it's a story about a bunch of fighter pilots. It is a story about a man's struggle with his own homosexuality. It is! That is what Top Gun is about, man. You've got Maverick, all right? He's on the edge, man. He's right on the fucking line, all right? And you've got Iceman, and all his crew. They're gay, they represent the gay man, all right? And they're saying, go, go the gay way, go the gay way. He could go both ways.
Kelly McGillis, she's heterosexuality. She's saying: No, no, no, no, no, no, go the normal way, play by the rules, go the normal way. They're saying no, go the gay way, be the gay way, go for the gay way, all right? That is what's going on throughout that whole movie. He goes to her house, all right? It looks like they're going to have sex, you know, they're just kind of sitting back, he's takin' a shower and everything. They don't have sex. He gets on the motorcycle, drives away. She's like,"What the fuck, what the fuck is going on here?"
Next scene, next scene you see her, she's in the elevator, she is dressed like a guy. She's got the cap on, she's got the aviator glasses, she's wearing the same jacket that the Iceman wears. She is, okay, this is how I got to get this guy, this guy's going towards the gay way, I got to bring him back, I got to bring him back from the gay way, so I'll do that through subterfuge, I'm going to dress like a man. All right? That is how she approaches it.
All right, but the REAL ending of the movie is when they fight the MIGs at the end, all right? Because he has passed over into the gay way. They are this gay fighting fucking force, all right? And they're beating the Russians, the gays are beating the Russians. And it's over, and they fucking land, and Iceman's been trying to get Maverick the entire time, and finally, he's got him, all right? And what is the last fucking line that they have together? They're all hugging and kissing and happy with each other, and Ice comes up to Maverick, and he says,"Man, you can ride my tail, anytime!" And what does Maverick say?"You can ride mine!" Swordfight! Swordfight! Fuckin' A, man!"
Funny Stuff!
I have gone on mongering trips with friends and solo. Both ways have their virtues, but I prefer going solo. The girls are all the company I really need or want. No discusion over where to go or when to go. You do what you want when you want to do it. Now if I were going on a scuba dive trip or a trek in the Himalayas, that is another story and a couple of good friends along for the adventure are essential.
Some are selling "all duties paid", ie delivered to your door with import duties pre-paid, and someare selling "free customs depot", ie import duties not paid. Thre is no way a commercial shipment escapes the customs when borders are crossed, unless it is a sample of small value.
Does anyone think that governments are letting tons of goods into their countries free of any duty? Dreamers!Well Australia does, to the Tune of $970 duty and GST / VAT free!
This is because it would cost them MORE to collect. Based an a massive sell off of prime real estate that made no sense, plus high labor costs, and in any case the average value sis $200 or less. This has been measured and proven, much to the dislike of local retailers who refuse to play hardball on rent issues.
I play safe. Use the toothbrush. Or have packaging thrown away, used to wash towels / sheets or suits washed, so nothing was new. My best party trick is tipping duty free into softdrink containers. Sometimes with a poison sticker. Then declaring it. Naturally the customs guys can't resell it, and send me on my way. (I keep it DF). I sew name tags onto custom made suits and shirts.
Bottom Line: I am not cheating: only putting forward used goods that can't be resold easily without detection. Just engrave that IPhone with your name and see their dirty looks!
Joe Looking
06-09-12, 15:48
1000b is good money in Thailand and so is in India too, hence the need to spend much less, based on a daily budget, linked to the need of doing many.I think your comment hints on one of the biggest problems with prostitution in Thailand and many parts of SE Asia. My first time, and I suspect many of you are the same, I compared the price I was quoted to what I would pay in America. When the woman told me 3000 baht I quickly asked myself what I would get in America for 100 USD. What she was offering was far more than I would get for 3000 baht back home. However, that is the wrong way to think about things as the cost of goods and services in a local environment should be priced according to local factors and not how much something costs in another country.
When an Indian person is faced with a chick who wants 2000 baht ST they may, unlike westerners, try to figure out what 2000 baht is in relation to what most Thais make. Once they figure out that some Thais don't make that in a week they may be inclined to get the price down to 500, which based on what most Thais spend / make in a week can still be considered good money for 1 hour of work. This does not make them cheap so much as pragmatic.
It amazes me that some men come to SE Asia (at one point I was such a man) and pay women more for one nights work than most people in the country make in two weeks. Unfortunately because many men technically overpay women label some men who want to pay a more reasonable price as cheap charlies, especially in places like Pattaya and BKK that are full of 1 week millionaires.
It amazes me that some men come to SE Asia (at one point I was such a man) and pay women more for one nights work than most people in the country make in two weeks.Yes, but these guys only exist in the tourist sectors, thus you have inflated tourist prices. Get out of these areas and prices are way more realistic on a local level. No thai man would ever pay 2k ST for anything for sale in Pattaya. If thai guys would pay that, then the girls would sell it to the thais. The girls sell it to ignorant tourists because they are the only ones who are willing enough to pay those inflated prices.
I think your comment hints on one of the biggest problems with prostitution in Thailand and many parts of SE Asia. My first time, and I suspect many of you are the same, I compared the price I was quoted to what I would pay in America. When the woman told me 3000 baht I quickly asked myself what I would get in America for 100 USD. What she was offering was far more than I would get for 3000 baht back home. However, that is the wrong way to think about things as the cost of goods and services in a local environment should be priced according to local factors and not how much something costs in another country.
When an Indian person is faced with a chick who wants 2000 baht ST they may, unlike westerners, try to figure out what 2000 baht is in relation to what most Thais make. Once they figure out that some Thais don't make that in a week they may be inclined to get the price down to 500, which based on what most Thais spend / make in a week can still be considered good money for 1 hour of work. This does not make them cheap so much as pragmatic.
It amazes me that some men come to SE Asia (at one point I was such a man) and pay women more for one nights work than most people in the country make in two weeks. Unfortunately because many men technically overpay women label some men who want to pay a more reasonable price as cheap charlies, especially in places like Pattaya and BKK that are full of 1 week millionaires.Exactly, guys need to forget what they pay back at home, they are not at home. You can eat a meal for 40 baht and many of the hotel staff work for 20 baht an hour. When you are asked for 3000 baht, smile and walk away.
Was in Pattaya over the weekend and visited two places.
Honey massage, the well known soapy on Soy Honey. Chose a cute nbr 74 named Tac, very kind and nice. Routine as usual, but what an awesomw body she had! Was doing her sideways, and couldn't resist that beautiful perfect shape. I asked her how much time I had while we were mish, and she said don't worry take your time. Wow! Very kind and doing all the moves and sounds at the right time. I was in love. 1800 baht.
Dream teen, went for the Romantic Room, no choosing, comes lady called Com, or the like. Half ass masage, then ask what I want. I say everything, the quote goes to 2000, we talk a bit and settle at 1200 (+500 for the room and massage). Very energetic, a litle too much on the acting, but quite fun.
Wolvenvacht
06-10-12, 07:50
I think your comment hints on one of the biggest problems with prostitution in Thailand and many parts of SE Asia. My first time, and I suspect many of you are the same, I compared the price I was quoted to what I would pay in America. When the woman told me 3000 baht I quickly asked myself what I would get in America for 100 USD. What she was offering was far more than I would get for 3000 baht back home. However, that is the wrong way to think about things as the cost of goods and services in a local environment should be priced according to local factors and not how much something costs in another country.
When an Indian person is faced with a chick who wants 2000 baht ST they may, unlike westerners, try to figure out what 2000 baht is in relation to what most Thais make. Once they figure out that some Thais don't make that in a week they may be inclined to get the price down to 500, which based on what most Thais spend / make in a week can still be considered good money for 1 hour of work. This does not make them cheap so much as pragmatic.
It amazes me that some men come to SE Asia (at one point I was such a man) and pay women more for one nights work than most people in the country make in two weeks. Unfortunately because many men technically overpay women label some men who want to pay a more reasonable price as cheap charlies, especially in places like Pattaya and BKK that are full of 1 week millionaires.OK, Let's look at this a bit more scientifically.
Yesterday I went to a Thai massage shop in Belgium, somewhere near Antwerpen. I booked a massage for two hours and that includes two pops (if you are up to it) of BBBJ and / or HJ, but not FS. Price was 180 EUR, or about 7200 baht. Two hours of fun in the local red light district will set you back 300 EUR or 12000 baht and that includes CFS. The RLD quality is really the bottom of the market for FS (which is the reason I rather go to a massage shop).
The average minimum daily wages in Belgium are about 75 EUR per day (1500 EUR per month) or about 3000 baht. So a SW in Belgium can expect between 250% (no FS) and 400% (including FS) of the minimum daily wages per 2 hour session.
In Thailand, the minimum average daily wages (depending on the area) is about 300 baht. If we apply the same "percentage", a two hours session, should cost between 750 baht (no FS) and 1200 baht (including FS). That is indeed somewhat below the 2000 baht we regularly pay to our honeys in the LOS. But taking into account that she will have to pay a share of that to her employer (the same will apply in Belgium) , the simple fact that as a foreigner you always pay a "tourist" surcharge and that we tend to visit more "up market" places than the simple bottom of the market RLD shops most Thai men will go to, the prices we pay in Thailand are not at all that much exaggerated. Actually I have had agogo girls do LT with me for less than 2000 baht, although 3000 to 3500 baht seems more the norm for LT. But then you get her for the whole night and at least 3 pops.
And don't forget we get to make love to beautiful Asian women who take good care of us. I have no problems at all in paying a bit more for such quality!
Dash Riprock
06-10-12, 13:50
Yes, but these guys only exist in the tourist sectors, thus you have inflated tourist prices. Get out of these areas and prices are way more realistic on a local level. No thai man would ever pay 2k ST for anything for sale in Pattaya. If thai guys would pay that, then the girls would sell it to the thais. The girls sell it to ignorant tourists because they are the only ones who are willing enough to pay those inflated prices.Most Pattaya Thais willing to pay 2k and up take the drive up to Galaxy Bangsaen.
Joe Looking
06-10-12, 20:26
The average minimum daily wages in Belgium are about 75 EUR per day (1500 EUR per month) or about 3000 baht. So a SW in Belgium can expect between 250% (no FS) and 400% (including FS) of the minimum daily wages per 2 hour session.Fair point, perhaps I should have said P4P in general. The overpaying is not limited to Thailand and I am sorry if I gave that impression. I am from the US and I cringe whenever I see ads for or hear of mean paying 2000USD / hour for escorts.
So let's re-examine the job. With the exception of prostitutes who can perform a skilled service like massage or have mastered some sexual technique, which is subjective because different things work for different men, prostitution is for the most part unskilled labor. Yes you have some women who perform the service of companion, but most are there to suck and fuck (the same thing regular women are doing right now as you read this). That said, unskilled laborers are generally the lowest paid workers in a society. I think that a risk premium has to be added, considering the potential for disease or the day that comes for many sex workers when they are just no longer able to perform. However, even with the risk premium their salaries should put them slightly above the average for the area that they live in.
There is also an oversupply of women / options in many areas. That fact alone should give customers the negotiating power. However, the power of the consumer is diminished by weekend millionaires and men who don't look past the first chick that winks at them.
I know these women work hard, but so does the lady who sells 30 baht rice dishes. The sex worker may give you 3 shots and stay the night, but over a 6 hour period you may spend 90 minutes actually having sex. For the remainder of the time she gets to sleep or hang out in a room that in many cases is nicer than her own. I don't advocate paying slave wages for sex workers, but I do wish that their pay would regress towards the average salary in the area. I think this would really weed out some of the undesirables. I'm sure we can all agree that there is a definite trend of women going to work in these places hoping to find men to run the long con on. By long con I am talking about things like sponsorship and very few sponsored women I have met were loyal to one guy (read as they had multiple sponsors).
The higher prices seem to do nothing but encourage greed. Over the past several months that I have been in Asia I have talked to many men who have been visiting the region for decades. I constantly hear complaints about the attitude of the women. I've also noticed that the tourist places are really only up-market if you compare them to factory brothels. In BKK, there is little difference between the go-go girl who will charge you 2500 ST and the girl at the massage place who will charge 300-550 ST. The only real difference is the go-go girl's clientèle has constantly allowed her to get away with charging more.
Again, this is just my opinion and I will probably continue to use sex workers until I get married. I will also continue to keep trying to get a good price or at least a fair deal out of the women I do business with, because for me I consider it a business transaction in most cases.
Wolvenvacht
06-10-12, 20:33
Fair point, perhaps I should have said P4P in general. The overpaying is not limited to Thailand and I am sorry if I gave that impression. I am from the US and I cringe whenever I see ads for or hear of men paying 2000USD / hour for escorts.I have no problem with paying a few thousand baht for a few hours of fun with a Thai girl. I have more problems with the manager of my bank getting a bonus of many millions of EUROs and that same bank paying next to no interest on my savings.
Der Tourist
06-10-12, 20:38
It's first time I'm in Pattaya since 2006. I kept coming to BKK pretty much every year ever since and I absolutely admire and love that city (not just for the women but variety of other things too) , however not to Pattaya. This time I decided to finally make it once again. It feels good to be back after such a long time. Especially since it was the first time I had a Thai lady. It was 6 years ago. Time flies fast. I myself was a 'kid' back then looking from my today's perspective. I have a little bit more experience and understanding now.
But ok, let's get to the matter. I did not go hunting yesterday because I arrived to Pattaya a bit late (after midnight) and felt like just going to bed. Today was the day. So off I go just about 20. 30 hours. It's a Sunday night so according to one girl in a bar, some ladies are off. Don't know if that's true or not but at least some bars (Alcatraz, Angelwitch, Peppermint) seemed kinda empty with very few customers and not that many girls at around 21. 00 (as I later found out, there was much more action towards midnight and even 2a. M.). Ones that were there were completely not for my taste (I like SLIM girls with a pretty face. Tall or short doesn't matter that much. I guess I'm competing with the Japanese here, unfortunately). Anyway, I was a little disappointed and starting to accept the idea that I may end up going back to my hotel without anyone as happened a few times in BKK in the past. I later got to find out that it was very unlikely as more action was building up in the bars and on the street. I guess I just have to go out bit later.
I decided to check out Baccara which has almost never disappointed me in Bangkok. It's a nice bar and staff is very professional and nice while girls don't act annoying and intimidating as in some places. They do have some understanding of good service. There was absolutely nothing to even remotely match my preference on the ground floor though. I checked out the second floor and I noticed a few slim small girls. Memorized their numbers but somehow I didn't get to see them anymore. Maybe they got barfined by the Japanese. Seemingly by 22. 00 Japanese (or were they Koreans? Couldn't hear them talking and could not distinguish just visually) started barfining girls like mad.
Then I spotted that small and very slim and well-shaped girl. Can't remember her number (I didn't even see it, in fact) but she looked really to my liking (proper Asian slim, short but very well proportioned). She was 26yo named Cat (she actually spelled it to me) .155cm tall (according to her) and, by my judgement, about 35kg in weight. So by any means a small girl. Being 190cm in height I felt a bit of a giant next to her. 26 yo is a bit on the old side for me but she seemed good enough and after some chatting I decided to take her. She spoke rather good English too which made communication easy. She asked if I wanted ST or LT and I told her I wasn't sure and it's up to her. I actually wasn't sure. And I may even change my mind later anyway, so I left the matter open for a later time.
Back in the hotel all went as it should: some very good DFK, touching, cuddling, followed by a decent BBBJ. Then three positions: missionary / shoulder holder, cowgirl which she was really good at and doggie which she was rather good at too. After the doggie it's a show time which ended on her entire front side below the face. Really good finish with alot of good stuff covering her front side. Great feeling.
It was a ST at the end although a rather prolonged one. She left before 1a. M. I went back to the Walking Street to have a look at the action and buy something to eat. I was rather hesitant whether I should take her LT or not. I guess the best compromise is a prolonged ST which allows to enjoy the girl and also allows to have a good night sleep and sort out other business including writing this report.
This was my first night out in Pattaya. I will have another night out after which I'll be off to the unknown (to me) land of Vietnam where I will hopefully be able to generate some decent reports too.
Der Tourist
06-10-12, 20:53
Being somewhat new to Pattaya scene (I am much more familiar with Bangkok) I would like to ask a few questions.
- I have noticed there is a very heavy presence of Russian tourists in Pattaya. It's amazing that almost every second billboard or sign has Russian writing on it. I was wondering if there are any Russians on this board participating in Thailand section? If so, privet. .
- What is the best time to hit the action in and around Walking Street? For instance, Bangkok starts 20. 00 and by 21. 00 it gets kinda busy while 22. 00 is probably the peak after which the best ladies are often taken. I've got an impression that Pattaya is a different story and things are happening later. What is the best time to go out to witness the action and see all the best girls coming up on the stage but not look like a fool sitting in the bar alone and being at the center of attention of all those who work there?
- There usually are some girls at the entrance of the bars saying "Weeeecoooooome!" and wawing all kinds of promo signs asking to come in. I have seen a few extremely pretty ones for my taste and was wondering if it is possible to barfine them or take them out after work? Do they go with customers at all or they have nothing to do with the dancing go-go girls and only work as welcoming hostesses? I actually asked one staff in Peppermint (they have that super slim and unbelievably hot young girlie at the front) and was told that cannot barfine her. Although she could have a drink with me (why?).
- What are good places to find SLIM girls? I.e. not ones who are 'normal' or 'not anorexic' but ones who are actually slim and have no fat on the belly or anywhere else? I realised Baccara is certainly one such place but are there any other bars with a good selection of slim ladies? I probably wouldn't even bother going elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1291685]Being somewhat new to Pattaya scene (I am much more familiar with Bangkok) I would like to ask a few questions.
- What is the best time to hit the action in and around Walking Street? For instance, Bangkok starts 20. 00 and by 21. 00 it gets kinda busy while 22. 00 is probably the peak after which the best ladies are often taken. I've got an impression that Pattaya is a different story and things are happening later.
It is hit and miss the girl your looking for might be bar fined for several days, just keep shopping around you can walk out without buying a drink.
- There usually are some girls at the entrance of the bars saying "Weeeecoooooome!" and wawing all kinds of promo signs asking to come in. I have seen a few extremely pretty ones for my taste and was wondering if it is possible to barfine them or take them out after work? Do they go with customers at all or they have nothing to do with the dancing go-go girls and only work as welcoming hostesses? I actually asked one staff in Peppermint (they have that super slim and unbelievably hot young girlie at the front) and was told that cannot barfine her. Although she could have a drink with me (why?).
Window dressing, Eye candy, that is why they are outside.
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What are good places to find SLIM girls? Ones who are actually slim and have no fat on the belly or anywhere else?I too prefer the thinner girls.
As a general rule, these girls are easier to find in the go-gos than in the beer bars or on Beach Road. Recommending a specific go-go club is always risky because the lineup at this or that place is constantly changing. But when I was last in town I was impressed with the lineup at Super Baby and Super Girls in the Walking Street area. In Central Pattaya there were some hot spinners in the go-gos on Soi LK Metro. Those clubs are so close together it's silly simple to stop by all of them to check out the talent. On Soi 6 I had to look harder for the slimmer ones. But I found the selection to be the best about dusk.
There is really no substitute for taking the time to make the rounds. Yes, it can be a hassle. But I rather enjoy the thrill of the hunt.
Bunky
MyNameIsChad
06-15-12, 16:15
There were a few reports about a crackdown in May. How much has Beach Road and Pattaya in general been affected? And have things been better this month or worse? Hopefully someone has an update.
Pointy Stick
06-16-12, 05:21
Nothing has really changed on BR although low season may have affected the quality somewhat.
Wolvenvacht
06-16-12, 07:17
There were a few reports about a crackdown in May. How much has Beach Road and Pattaya in general been affected? And have things been better this month or worse? Hopefully someone has an update.I was in Pattaya and Jomtien in May and did not see anything of a crackdown. Actually, my Thai GF noticed that there were many working girls active on BR.
I see that Secrets was raided and the manager Larry arrested which is a shame.
Anyone know the inside story on this?
I see that Secrets was raided and the manager Larry arrested which is a shame.
http://www.pattayafree.com/index.php/topic/2907-secrets-raided/
Anyone know the inside story on this?Not a big loss! Overpriced establishment with poor quality girls.
Mr Enternational
06-16-12, 16:58
I see that Secrets was raided and the manager Larry arrested which is a shame.
http://www.pattayafree.com/index.php/topic/2907-secrets-raided/
Anyone know the inside story on this?I don't know. But I usually pay them 20 baht to park outside. Does this mean that I can park there for free now?
Tony Hoeprano
06-16-12, 17:09
Not a big loss! Overpriced establishment with poor quality girls.It was my understanding poor quality girls is par for the course in this city. One of these days I'll make it down there.
I see that Secrets was raided and the manager Larry arrested which is a shame.
http://www.pattayafree.com/index.php/topic/2907-secrets-raided/
Anyone know the inside story on this?Same inside story as any other bar owner who gets out of hand and doesn't pay his required dues.
I see that Secrets was raided and the manager Larry arrested which is a shame.
http://www.pattayafree.com/index.php/topic/2907-secrets-raided/
Anyone know the inside story on this?I have heard it was the police down from Bangkok, obviously wanting their palms greasing with a few baht.
HappyNaNanda8
06-17-12, 09:07
Heading for Pattaya in July, and wondering whats the seediest bar in Pattaya. The kind of place where you can discreetly put your dick in a girls pussy. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
It was my understanding poor quality girls is par for the course in this city. One of these days I'll make it down there.You should try Pattaya sometime. The average quality is certainly higher in BKK, but there are definitely some gems to be had in Pattaya. And I have found the Pattaya ladies to generally be better performers. YMMV.
For me attitude is twice as important as looks when it comes to this hobby. It translates to something like this: (looks x 1) + (attitude x 2) /3. So I generally enjoy an experience with a 7 looks with a 10 attutide lady better than an experience with a 10 looks with a 7 attitude lady. Again; YMMV.
For those who feel the need; flame away.
SunLover
Not a big loss! Overpriced establishment with poor quality girls.I could not access the Pattaya Free site to read the allegations. And I have not been there for a while, mind you, but I rather liked Secrets. Free buffet on Sunday (nothing spectacular, but hey, free). I barfined one of their girls who was a real cutie. And Larry, who comped me a beer, was a great guy. I could think of dumping on a ton of other gogos on in the vicinity of Walking Street. In one place I refused to pay for rancid beer (one tiny sip) and was chased out with an old hag throwing sticks and shit at me. Secrets, IMHO, is a place that cares about its customers, pretty rare in Patts.
Der Tourist
06-17-12, 19:22
my somewhat delayed report (by a few days, anyway) from my second visit to pattaya (the first one being in 2006).
nothing too memorable. a rather standard go-go experience. still enjoyed it.
first i went to the angelwitch bar which is, i assumed, was kinda famous. it was after 21. 00 hours so not that early as the day before. it was a rather miserable sight there. all girls were either well overweight (and i'm not saying this as an admirer of super-skinny nymphs but i really mean it. at least 6 girls dancing on the stage could be described as obese) or outright obese. that was not pleasant at all. having realised that i probably would not see anyone to my liking in that place i left just before 22. 00 and went to the "sexy airline" bar. quickly popped in and didn't even bother having a drink there. just left straight away. the choice of girls was miserable.
i wasn't sure what to do next: go checking other bars or just go to baccarra which seemed much better than others i checked the day before. i decided to go for baccara and after ordering a drink went to the second floor where i knew i would find something decent for myself. some japanese guys there (surprise! surprise!) but it didn't take long before i spotted that tiny and really skinny nymph. can't remember her number (as usual with me) but she seemed like the kind i like: a true tiny and skinny spinner girl who would be, shall we say, not too heavy to manage in the bed. she was 21 (or so she said. she probably was) and had braces which is not a problem for me. .
one drink, barfine and we are on the way to my hotel which is not too far from the walking street. just all of a sudden once we're at the front of the hotel entrance she says "i cannot go this hotel". i asked "why?". she says "have no i'd.". i was like for f*s sake, girl, you surely could tell this a bit earlier (of course i didn't say this to her in such a manner, i' would never be that rude). i asked why she didn't have the i'd and she told me that short story about riding a motorbike with no helmet and being stopped by a cop who took her i'd (only other choice would have been the motorbike itself). but she did have a copy of her i'd. i was a bit lost for a second but then just decided to just go for it and try to go to my hotel with what we had i. e. copy of her i'd. that's thailand, after all, rules are not always there to be obeyed.
and i was right. the reception guy looked at the i'd copy, said something to the girl in thai. then told me politely "if anything happen, i know nothing". i said "ok no problem" and that was it.
in the room the standard stuff: kissing, cuddling, then missionary, doggie and cob (tits area). unfortunately no bj. she said because of her braces. not sure if that really matters. does it? oh well, whatever, not a big deal. anyway, she must have been one of the smallest and slimmest girls i've ever had which was a rather nice touch. she didn't mind posing for a picture too which i liked.
just to finish off the story of my pattaya visit, a quick sub-story on my trip to the (suvarnabhumi) airport the morning after.
can't be bothered to take a bus with my suitcase so i order a taxi from an official travel agency stand in my hotel. the price is 1000thb which is a standard rate for a taxi to airport. i paid upfront and got a receipt stating the price and the car which is taking me there (toyota innova. or maybe corolla. one of them two anyway). minutes later the driver is here and helps me to bring my suitcase to the car. only that the car is not innova / corolla but the 2006 shape toyota camry (woo hoo! lucky me! free class upgrade for no extra fees). the driver was a young guy and was keen to take me to the airport without delay (even without my request to do so) which means we were going faster than most other cars at 130-140km / h on the semi-motorway from pattaya and then on the 'real' motorway which has a 120km / h speed limit. he tells me "if police ask, say i'm your friend, not taxi.". lol. i already see what's the issue here. :d
he drove me to the departures area. he seemed very worried about the police not stopping him there. i gave him 20 baht for his quicker and more luxurious than-expected delivery of my ass to the airport and this is where it all ends.
the funny thing is that the very legitimate agency employs unlicensed taxi driver who uses a much better car than your average taxi, goes way over speed limit and at the same time is shitting himself not to get stopped by police and get done for providing illegal taxi services. i love thailand. seriously, i do. wher eelse can you get a better taxi car than you pay for. :d
Heading for Pattaya in July, and wondering whats the seediest bar in Pattaya. The kind of place where you can discreetly put your dick in a girls pussy. Any suggestions?Windmill is always a decent place for some more adventurous stuff: http://www.windmillpattaya.com/
Windmill is always a decent place for some more adventurous stuff:
http://www.windmillpattaya.com/Windmill is seedy but I don't think you will get sex in the bar. Your best bet is the likes of Devils Den.
Windmill is seedy but I don't think you will get sex in the bar. Your best bet is the likes of Devils Den.I have seen a blowjob in Windmill, but I think Babydolls is a better bet for getting your willy out. Maybe X-Zone as well but I haven't seen it happen there.
Tony Hoeprano
06-19-12, 11:09
First I went to the Angelwitch bar which is, I assumed, was kinda famous. It was after 21. 00 hours so not that early as the day before. It was a rather miserable sight there. All girls were either well overweight (and I'm not saying this as an admirer of super-skinny nymphs but I really mean it. At least 6 girls dancing on the stage could be described as obese) or outright obese. That was not pleasant at all.It makes you wonder where these girls get the ambition to become gogo dancers if they're obese. More power to them if they can support themselves or their families. Maybe I'll sign up to be in Thai TV commercials since I'm so hansum LOL
Pointy Stick
06-19-12, 21:03
It makes you wonder where these girls get the ambition to become gogo dancers if they're obese. More power to them if they can support themselves or their families. Maybe I'll sign up to be in Thai TV commercials since I'm so hansum LOLI passed through Soi Buakow and LK tonight on my way to unload at Bliss Lounge. There are definately some spinners in the Gogos there, think Papagayo etc.
Quality has certainly gone down in the past 4 years but the girls have more options careerwise than to dance in front of drunken farang these days.
I've been hooking up with some young(ish) girls like 20 to 25 and my assessment is they lack the experience and the filthy minds that the BR milfs seem to have. To be honest its a bit of a quandry. Back to bangkok to well, bang some kok tomorrow.
Pointy out
LittleBigMan
06-19-12, 21:52
Never been. Never will. Why comment?
Anybody visiting Pattaya will find exactly what they are looking for. The city is full of variety.
Like slim and sexy girls? They are here.
Like bigger with a large ass? They are here.
Like older models? They are here.
Like younger models? They are here.
The girls move around. Someone in Bangkok today could be in Pattaya tomorrow and vice versa.Saint Mint,
I agree, it must be tough going through life responding to others about a person or place they have never been too! Its not only this case with Pattaya but if one were to apply the same thinking in life only going by what someone has told you or read that pretty much says a lot about these individual. In life people are fat, ugly, pretty and stupid! Etc. No matter what part of earth they happen to be standing.
Normally, I would like to say come on down and I will show you around not to prove them wrong but to show them Pattaya is no different than Bangkok or anywhere else but I don't babysit for minors. I guess you become convince that heaven being in Bangkok because you can't think for yourself or just too narrow minded to try something new. Nevertheless, why bother more for us!
LBM
Windmill is seedy but I don't think you will get sex in the bar.You should go there more often, then you'd know better.
Your best bet is the likes of Devils Den.Never heard or have seen myself that you can get sex or even a BJ in public at Devil's Den. The girls always will take you to a room at Heaven's Inn before they start their show.
I'm with you on this one. LOL!
I'm not so optimistic as you are though. Ill prolly never make it down there.Funny comment from a possibly blind man who obviously doesn't know his dick from a hole in the ground.
Got to love those braille keyboards, though. LOL.
LittleBigMan
06-20-12, 02:14
Funny comment from a possibly blind man who obviously doesn't know his dick from a hole in the ground.
Got to love those braille keyboards, though. LOL.Fon Tok,
They know alright these two must be related and spend most of their time choking the chicken. Hell their rooms ceiling must be dripping with their cum and mom is knocking on their doors " what you doing in there son ". You know what they say " you can't teach stupid "
LBM
LovingAsia
06-20-12, 13:18
Hi,
If I go into a go-go or disco such as Insomnia, can I expect to have much of a conversation with the girls. Enough to get to know them? I heard the ladies in the Phils have better command of english.
Mr Enternational
06-20-12, 20:34
If I go into a go-go or disco such as Insomnia, can I expect to have much of a conversation with the girls. Enough to get to know them? I heard the ladies in the Phils have better command of english.No because the music will be too fucking loud. What do you intend to have a conversation about? They are there to fuck in exchange for money. You might want to try the geishas in Japan or a chat line if it is conversation you want. They do speak English though and IMHO not any worse than a lot of the P4P girls in PI.
Anyone know where to get poppers in Pattaya?Welcome to the forum, Mandela. This is not a drugs forum. Please go away.
Hi,
If I go into a go-go or disco such as Insomnia, can I expect to have much of a conversation with the girls. Enough to get to know them? I heard the ladies in the Phils have better command of english.Well, I will respond in a slightly different manner than the last poster. Yes, the music is load, but those of us who love freelance discos should be used to that. In general, not nearlly as many women speak English as in the PI, that is one of the official languages of the PI, afterall. That said, I had two great long time sessions what started out as fun, playful, flirty conversations in fairly good English. For many of us, this is PART of the expereince and fantasy, enjoying a good night out at a disco with a hottie we know we are going to fuck. The biggest sex organ, after all, is the brain. Pump and dump kind of guys who are not into GFE don't seem to be in touch with this, but to each his own.
LittleBigMan
06-21-12, 01:09
Hi,
If I go into a go-go or disco such as Insomnia, can I expect to have much of a conversation with the girls. Enough to get to know them? I heard the ladies in the Phils have better command of english.Not trying to flame you but take a moment and look at the question that you are asking? Please don't turn into jello when looking for pussy. Sure it is nice that PHiL the girls speak more English and you can and have been able to have conversation with them which is a plus but not every country is the same nor can anyone say that this nighclub or any night club are only venture by girls that can speak English. This is the same type of question or remarks member make like which bar or location one can find girls with the biggest tits or where do all the stunners hang out? No one has a crystal ball or radar on people for these types of question. You go take a chance experience and the only way to do that is to come. If you don't whether it is good or bad they you will just fall into the catagory of any guy who believe what they heard!
LBM
LittleBigMan
06-21-12, 03:47
Anyone know where to get poppers in Pattaya?There is a place right on Beach Road, in Front of Soi 9, Just ask someone in brown "Khun yaba sui t nai " they will take you to the right place?
LBM
Hi,
If I go into a go-go or disco such as Insomnia, can I expect to have much of a conversation with the girls. Enough to get to know them? I heard the ladies in the Phils have better command of english.The other way of thinking about it in Thailand is if she can speak good English she has been on the p4p for a good period of time, or has a wealthy family who could afford an education for her, so she will probably expect a higher price.
Was in the area last night so I decided to visit that go-go bar on Beach Road between Soi 7 and 8; I think the name is World Wide or something like that. Bad move.
For those of you who like the fat girls, this is the bar for you. At least 75% of the lineup was obese, and I swear, one of the girls was as big as a barn. I've never witnessed such a group of female fuglies in G-strings during my 5 years living in Pattaya.
It was depressing. It was boring. It was disgusting. This place used to be a decent go-go bar.
I left during the show in which two fat girls with dour looks on their faces shoved ping-pong balls up their pussies and let them drop into a beer glass in front of them. Revolting.
If you want quality you have to stick to Walking Street.
Also never forget the power of learning English by watching western cartoons. LOL.
Too bad I can't learn Thai by watching Thai toons. Whats up with that?The fact that you are still watching cartoons indicates that you are stupid.
LittleBigMan
06-22-12, 22:23
Was in the area last night so I decided to visit that go-go bar on Beach Road between Soi 7 and 8; I think the name is World Wide or something like that. Bad move.
For those of you who like the fat girls, this is the bar for you. At least 75% of the lineup was obese, and I swear, one of the girls was as big as a barn. I've never witnessed such a group of female fuglies in G-strings during my 5 years living in Pattaya.
It was depressing. It was boring. It was disgusting. This place used to be a decent go-go bar.
I left during the show in which two fat girls with dour looks on their faces shoved ping-pong balls up their pussies and let them drop into a beer glass in front of them. Revolting.
If you want quality you have to stick to Walking Street.Daddy07,
Thanks for the great tip! I'll be heading down there quick as can be! I like those Thai Changs!
LBM
Saint Mint
06-23-12, 03:42
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Mr Enternational
06-23-12, 04:13
Since when did they start calling SPs on Beach Road Coconut Ghosts?
22 'Coconut Ghosts' were arrested and taken to Pattaya Police Station in the early hours of Friday. The new name for those suspected of loitering on Pattaya Beach with intent to engage in prostitution or other criminal acts has been given to them by Pattaya Police who round-up men and women who are suspected of loitering on a nightly basis. On this occasion 7 women and 15 transsexuals were taken to the station and fined the sum of 100 Baht before being sent on their way with a stern warning not to be seen on Pattaya Beach again. The warning was ignored and the 'Coconut Ghosts' returned to the beach to continue doing whatever they were doing previous to their arrest.
http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/57531/22-coconut-ghosts-pattaya-beach/
Sucks to have to pay money for being "suspected" of doing something and being told that you are not to be seen in a public place.
Since when did they start calling SPs on Beach Road Coconut Ghosts? .Thought it was a "rapper musician" band! LOL I love when the media print polcie reports in their bueaucratic language such as "men and women who are suspected of loitering on a nightly basis" And " prostitution or other criminal acts"
Just to say female and LB hookers, soliciting sex etc.
Since when did they start calling SPs on Beach Road Coconut Ghosts?
22 'Coconut Ghosts' were arrested and taken to Pattaya Police Station in the early hours of Friday. The new name for those suspected of loitering on Pattaya Beach with intent to engage in prostitution or other criminal acts has been given to them by Pattaya Police who round-up men and women who are suspected of loitering on a nightly basis. On this occasion 7 women and 15 transsexuals were taken to the station and fined the sum of 100 Baht before being sent on their way with a stern warning not to be seen on Pattaya Beach again. The warning was ignored and the 'Coconut Ghosts' returned to the beach to continue doing whatever they were doing previous to their arrest.
Sucks to have to pay money for being "suspected" of doing something and being told that you are not to be seen in a public place.Arrests on Beach Road are part of life in Pattaya, they happen every so often.
The raid on Secrets is more worrying as faranags were not allowed to leave the club during the raid.
It appears a former partner has fallen out and is bringing trouble to the club. Who would want to visit until this is sorted out?
http://www.pattayafree.com/index.php/topic/2907-secrets-raided/page__st__20#entry26564
LittleBigMan
06-23-12, 16:42
A little late, forgot all about these places? If you know Pattaya and can get around here are a few places that the prices are similar to Soi 6? Did a tour with a few friends 2months ago. We just visited but didn't partake.
Kinnaree Place: 389/110 Moo12 Pratumak road, soi 4, This place opens at 1pm and closes at 9pm, it seems to be a afternoon freelancer hang out and the few girls we spoke to ask for 1000 ST, but in my opinion I believe one get it for less.
Rioja Gentlemens club, off Thepprasit, take a left on Soi 7, Honda dealership go all the way down to the end near the Jomtien sport complex. 12/10pm, there seem to be shorttime rooms and one girl ask for 1000 ST, I didn't say anything and later she said up to you?
Can't remember the name or Soi number but just off Sukhumvit just before the McDonalds go down, there is a club there, This particular place there weren't any customer except us and the girls were agressive where they took off their clothes and wanted us to take them. I suck one girls tits and finger her pussy for a taste in the end I left and tip her a 100 baht. Prices suggested to us were like Soi 6.
Noted: for all three places I didn't see any stunners on my first and only visit. I'm more into nasty and preformance but of course I rather not put a bag over them?
LBM
A little late, forgot all about these places? If you know Pattaya and can get around here are a few places that the prices are similar to Soi 6? Did a tour with a few friends 2months ago. We just visited but didn't partake.
Kinnaree Place: 389/110 Moo12 Pratumak road, soi 4, This place opens at 1pm and closes at 9pm, it seems to be a afternoon freelancer hang out and the few girls we spoke to ask for 1000 ST, but in my opinion I believe one get it for less.
Rioja Gentlemens club, off Thepprasit, take a left on Soi 7, Honda dealership go all the way down to the end near the Jomtien sport complex. 12/10pm, there seem to be shorttime rooms and one girl ask for 1000 ST, I didn't say anything and later she said up to you?
Can't remember the name or Soi number but just off Sukhumvit just before the McDonalds go down, there is a club there, This particular place there weren't any customer except us and the girls were agressive where they took off their clothes and wanted us to take them. I suck one girls tits and finger her pussy for a taste in the end I left and tip her a 100 baht. Prices suggested to us were like Soi 6.
Noted: for all three places I didn't see any stunners on my first and only visit. I'm more into nasty and preformance but of course I rather not put a bag over them?
LBMCheck out Pratumnak, quite a few gentlemans clubs up there.
Orange Crust
06-24-12, 00:58
Hi,
If I go into a go-go or disco such as Insomnia, can I expect to have much of a conversation with the girls. Enough to get to know them? I heard the ladies in the Phils have better command of english.Sure, it's loud and all that but if you want to talk, don't be surprised if you end up buying the girl and her whole posse drinks. The longer you chat and more rounds. Don't forget you're the dude with money at the table, they won't be buying you rounds so it's your dime. One of my favourite girls I met on Walking Street (I was already loaded) and I started talking to a real sweetie. She thought I was interested in her older friend and I said no. I liked her. So she invited me to insomnia with them.
I bought a few rounds at the table and everyone thought I was the best thing ever. So they encourage my new friend to go with me. Which she did. The next morning when I offered her 1500bt for the LT (I even woke her and said I wanted another round) after which I said she should take a motorbike home (hint to leave)
I realized I made an expensive mistake when I realized price didn't come up the night before. For a girl her age and calabre - based on BKK prices, I was thinking 3000 baht but wanted to start low on price so we would end up at 3K. Well, when I offered her 1, 500 she look like a deer in the headlights. She said "for what?"! Man did I feel dirty and embarressed. So I just said for clothes so that she can really be looking sexy next time I saw her. I guess I could have got her for free.
She came to BKK 2 weeks later and stayed with me for months.
Sorry, I went on there. Yes, you can talk and have fun but you inherit her table and friends / FLs. So you maybe buying rounds.
Juicyclamlover
06-24-12, 03:46
Check out Pratumnak, quite a few gentlemans clubs up there.The club on the left Soi as you go up the hill towards Jomtien is called the Jade Garden it is in the Soi with an arched entrance set back from the main road and is on the right about 100 mts down.
There is also a newish place called the Sapphire Lodge opposite the Asia Pattaya Hotel which I haven't visited but intend to on my next trip in about 3 weeks time.
I have taken a few girls from both Kinnaree and Rioja ST on site and I have found some nice gems in both places.
My last 2 visits to Rioja were most worthwhile for the nice girls there.
Mr Enternational
06-24-12, 04:04
Sure, it's loud and all that but if you want to talk, don't be surprised if you end up buying the girl and her whole posse drinks. The longer you chat and more rounds. Don't forget you're the dude with money at the table, they won't be buying you rounds so it's your dime. One of my favourite girls I met on Walking Street (I was already loaded) and I started talking to a real sweetie. She thought I was interested in her older friend and I said no. I liked her. So she invited me to insomnia with them.Yes, you can talk and have fun but you inherit her table and friends / FLs. So you maybe buying rounds.I beg to differ. There have been many a night when women have invited me to their table to drink on the bottle of Remy or Absolut or Blend 285 they bought and the hookah they are paying for. As a matter of fact that has happened more times to me than times I have bought any woman a drink in the clubs there. And I have never gone up to a girl in a group and been requested to buy all of them a drink (unless it was a group of 2. But I didn't oblige. I only bought the drink for the one I was interested in). A couple of weeks ago a girl bought a bottle of Hennessey to drink with my cousin. They didn't finish the bottle and she left it there in his name. She even got him a VIP card to the place.
The next morning when I offered her 1500bt for the LT (I even woke her and said I wanted another round) after which I said she should take a motorbike home (hint to leave)
I realized I made an expensive mistake when I realized price didn't come up the night before. For a girl her age and calabre. Based on BKK prices, I was thinking 3000 baht but wanted to start low on price so we would end up at 3K. Well, when I offered her 1, 500 she look like a deer in the headlights. She said "for what?"! Man did I feel dirty and embarressed.Here come the BKKers trying to screw up my beloved Pattaya by overpaying the disco girls. LOL. One more time: LT FL Disco = 1000 baht! You don't need a discussion the night before. Just fork over the 1000 when you are ready for her to leave. OC you found out that there is a thin line between pro and non-pro in those discos. Many girls have regular jobs and just go there to have fun and will go home with you on GP. The thing is that you don't know who those girls are because they are all mixed in so it is the luck of the draw. In some cases it may be best to wait until the girl is ready to go the next day and asks about payment. Like the one who bought the Hennessey. She has her own salon in Pattaya. She never asked my cousin for any money. But he screwed it up because he likes to go to the same damn discos every night and openly butterfly around like nobody sees him. It's okay for the guy on vacation but when you live there and the chicks are used to seeing you, you have to adjust your game accordingly.
Tony Hoeprano
06-24-12, 05:26
Here come the BKKers trying to screw up my beloved Pattaya by overpaying the disco girls. LOL. One more time: LT FL Disco = 1000 baht! You don't need a discussion the night before. Just fork over the 1000 when you are ready for her to leave. OC you found out that there is a thin line between pro and non-pro in those discos. Many girls have regular jobs and just go there to have fun and will go home with you on GP. The thing is that you don't know who those girls are because they are all mixed in so it is the luck of the draw. In some cases it may be best to wait until the girl is ready to go the next day and asks about payment. Like the one who bought the Hennessey. She has her own salon in Pattaya. She never asked my cousin for any money. But he screwed it up because he likes to go to the same damn discos every night and openly butterfly around like nobody sees him. It's okay for the guy on vacation but when you live there and the chicks are used to seeing you, you have to adjust your game accordingly.The last few posts have shown the dismal quality in some of the gogos in Patts, how is the quality in the discos? I like my women pretty and without see-section scars. It doesn't matter if they're light skinned or dark skinned.
The last few posts have shown the dismal quality in some of the gogos in Patts, how is the quality in the discos? I like my women pretty and without see-section scars. It doesn't matter if they're light skinned or dark skinned.Last time I was in Pattaya (late March) I took an extensive tour of over 25 go-go bars.
There are plenty of beautiful young ladies. No worries about that!
And, remember guys, fugly girls often try a lot harder than their beautiful, spoiled sisters. ;)
Maybe I'll go over there tonight and look around some more. :)
LovingAsia
06-24-12, 07:21
It's my 1st visit to Pats later this year, and I'd like to know about current prices. I don't wish to spoil the market by overpaying.
Go-go s.
Beer / Ladydrinks =?
ST and LT =?
Insomnia.
Soft drinks =?
Beer =?
ST = 500B.
LT = 1000B.
Cheers
Last time I was in Pattaya (late March) I took an extensive tour of over 25 go-go bars.
There are plenty of beautiful young ladies. No worries about that!
And, remember guys, fugly girls often try a lot harder than their beautiful, spoiled sisters. .
Maybe I'll go over there tonight and look around some more.It's almost always been my experience that the stunners do not give the best experience. The next level down girls often do much better for less money.
AssLover945
06-24-12, 17:15
i was in pattaya for the weekend, and wow it is such a nice time to be there.
tourists are at their lowest, most bars and gogo's are going almost customer less.
i went to bars around soi lk metro and went to the world famous devil's den, but i was apparently the first customer in 3 days,
in [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s too, i was the first customer at 12 noon.
most gogos and sports bar were aggressively pulling in customers and beers were going at rock bottom prices at 49 bahts.
i always gave preference to bangkok over pattaya, but this time (in low season) , i felt so much welcoming there,
guys time to catch the 100 bahts van to pattaya, from victory monument and in less than 2 hours, you will be in pattaya and be treated like a king.
enjoy
LovingAsia
06-24-12, 18:25
i was in pattaya for the weekend, and wow it is such a nice time to be there.
tourists are at their lowest, most bars and gogo's are going almost customer less.
i went to bars around soi lk metro and went to the world famous devil's den, but i was apparently the first customer in 3 days,
in [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s too, i was the first customer at 12 noon.
most gogos and sports bar were aggressively pulling in customers and beers were going at rock bottom prices at 49 bahts.
i always gave preference to bangkok over pattaya, but this time (in low season) , i felt so much welcoming there,
guys time to catch the 100 bahts van to pattaya, from victory monument and in less than 2 hours, you will be in pattaya and be treated like a king.
enjoygreat. well, i hope it's still like that in late aug / september. was thinking to do split time with ac in phils as well, but pattaya sounds like it offers more. will keep options open. waiting for report from amex sg. when is your trip report coming out? previous reports were very informative.
warning: do not read this report if you're easily bored or really negative / critical. this is all imho and ymmv.
due to my inability to upload files / photos thru isg, pm me your e-mail address & i'll send you my 2012 trip report. 2011 trip report and los guide in pdf+word formats with photos embedded. no nude photos because i don't want to be busted for supposedly kiddie porn (even some of the age 20+ women appear to be ****). i no longer have the phone numbers of any of these sps, sorry.
- approx exchange rate i'm using is b (aht) 30. 0 = us $1 (or b100 = $3. 40)
- i was in pattaya, thailand (los,"land of [vertical] smiles") 30 apr – 29 may 2012. as i only have sex once a year (when i'm vacationing in thailand) so bedding women at bargain prices is my primary focus.
notes:
- i usually take 1/2 a kamagra pill unless i intend to just get just a bj (s).
- i'm using a 24 hr clock format (eg 15:00 = 1500 = 3 pm).
- 1 x los day = my day generally starts as late as 15:00 or as early as 09:00 & it ends the following morning as late as 08:00 or as early as 01:00. i sleep whenever i can and prefer to chill in my hotel room when it's hot & sunny outside.
- round = for me a sex session involving 0 to 3 x pops; pop = ejaculation.
- friend grade a is great, b is good, c is ok, d is bad, f is foul.
her overall grade = looks (face 25 % weighted + body 25% weighted) + service (50% weighted, gfe + st / lt valued price + low maintenance / easy negotiations + sex skills + other intangibles)
- friend # = escort; buddy # = my american buddies.
table of contents.
section 1: logistics.
section 2: internet video weblinks.
section 3: ladies.
section 1: logistics.
1)
a) transportation.
- from airport to patts: paid b1, 000+tip for.
www.pattaya-taxi.com/
because flight landed too late for bell.
- from patts to airport: paid b200 ($7) for.
www.belltravelservice.com/
be) patts hotel: i stayed.
www.sanya-nightstar.com/site/
in the past i also liked staying at.
www.jasminehotel-pattaya.com
&
www.swissfood.net/hotel.htm
, each with their pros & cons. all are at ws (i want a short walk, no taxi, at 07:00 after clubbing) , have no joiner fee & hold your lady's i'd card / copy unless you tell them not to.
- bkk hotel:
www.ramadaencorebangkok.com
nice hotel & excellent location on sukhumvit soi 10 in between (& walking distances to) soi cowboy & nana plaza. i paid total (taxes incl.) b1, 750 ($56) for my 1 night ramada stay.
2) ws mobile store: on soi 15 (to the left of beach gogo) , open 16:00 – 02:00, i bought an unlocked nokia1280 dual-band cellphone (should have bought tri or quad-band as dual-band won't work in the us) for negotiated b800 ($27) (sticker retail price b900 ($30) and a true gsm '1-2-call' sim card for b100 ($3. 40) since 1-2-call has the best reception (the b50 ($1. 70) gsm card has a crappier phone network).
- buying more pre-paid minutes ('top-up') available at any 7-11. to load those minutes ask the 7-11 employee to do it for you or if you have "1-2-call" do this (i got tired of asking 7-11 to do it for me) :
- step 1) on your phone type '*120*'sixteen-digit pin'#' step 2) hit 'send' on your phone.
example: type *120*1234567890123456# then hit 'send' (the 16-digit pin code is on the 7-11 receipt)
3) logbase patts (logistics base) : concentration of useful vendors
a) mostly the row of shops to the left (east) of the ws entrance / sign:
- tu travel (agency) : manager used to work as a translator so speaks excellent english.
- photo vendor: 6 x passport photos for b120 ($4) , photo printing in <24 hrs b10 / ea or in <.5 hr b20 / ea.
- explorer internet café: open 24/7, full-page color print-out b30 / page (i think b10 / page for black & white)
- friendship mart: mostly cheaper than 7-11 (friendship supermarket is east another. 4 mi (.7 km)
- sawadee massage: b850 ($29) body scrub+coconut milk moisturizer+thai massage deal, takes 2. 5+ hrs.
- skin spa: facial scrub, etc, in clean, modern facilities with good prices.
- barbershop: b80 ($2. 70) for a haircut, b20 to add shampoo / hair-washing.
be) intersection of soi 14 & 15:
- bm pharmacy: cheap meds.
- medical clinic: open 24/7, treat injuries or get prescriptions.
4) tailor: exclusive textile co, ltd manager is rohit 087-540-2989.
- located across from the southeast corner of tukcom, they're a fabric wholesaler (so look for the store with lots of fabric rolls, hard to miss) supplying most of patts' tailoring shops. they can also use their fabric inventory to make you tailored goods, passing savings on to you. prices:
sport jacket b2, 500 ($83)
vest b1, 200 ($40)
pants b1, 400 ($47)
suit (2 pc) before. 000 ($133)
shirt b500 ($17, button-down shirt, long-sleeve or short-sleeve)
i like both nini tailor (on 2nd road across from marriott) and exclusive textile, each with their pros / cons.
5) misc.
a) theprassit night market on fri / sat / sun, opens 17:00; excellent, diverse eateries & good clothes buying.
be)
www.pattayafloatingmarket.com
free entrance, b200 ($7) for one-way car ride from ws to it.
see) good health dental clinic just east of the sikh temple, it was b1, 000 ($34) for their high-tech deep cleaning (only b500 ($17) for a basic cleaning). dentist said i didn't have any cavities and i didn't need x-rays (which costs b300 ($10) but in 2013 i'll try a different dentist to get a second opinion, maybe.
http://www.dentalsmilepattaya.com/
the) jogging beach road (aka coconut bar) : one-way it's 1. 7 mi (2. 8 km)
section 2: internet video weblinks.
from youtube.
- pattaya overview (ws, s6, cb, etc)
http://bit.ly/kcny4w
- ws (walking street)
http://bit.ly/kcm3un
or.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hzqix_ouj0&feature=related
- s6 (soi 6) snippits.
http://bit.ly/m3prxc
- s7 (soi 7)
http://bit.ly/kcs7vy
- cb (coconut bar ie the beach side of br (beach road)
http://bit.ly/m3unvw
- thai escorts.
http://bit.ly/kciuua
- songkran (water festival)
http://bit.ly/kclil7
- p4p industry.
http://bit.ly/kct33i
section 3: ladies.
day 1) mon / 30 apr, so-so good.
plane lands 17:30, leave airport 19:00, arrive patts 20:30, in the ws gogos at 21:00
friend 1 see photo lek, overall b = service b + face b + body a, wouldn't do bjs.
lt b1, 200 ($40) , age 21, jomtien office worker.
met friend 1 lek + her thick friend at marine disco at 02:00, danced with both and offered to buy 'them drinks so thick friend accepted but friend 1 lek declined. at 02:45 friend 1 lek agrees to go with me lt so at my hotel we did round 1 with 1 x pop, she slept 04:00 – 09:30 (i drifted in & out) , round 2 with 1 x pop, slept 10:00. 12:00, we had b100 ($3. 40) lunch 12:00. 13:00, i was denied round 3 (which irritated me) before she hurriedly left at 13:00. wouldn't do bjs. i try to cajole her in to round 3, saying 'you and me, good boom-boom' (i worked a lot harder than usual when i was tapping her during round 1 and 2) to which she replied 'so-so. ' ouch.
a week or so later at marine disco i'm looking at her thinking she's cute & looks vaguely familiar, then she reminds me that we had been together. i forego getting her again because she doesn't do bjs and she had denied me round 3.
day 2) tue / 1 may, mom's the broker.
friend 2 see photo, overall b = service a + face b + body c.
total lt b1, 020 ($34) = lt b1, 000 + taxi b20, age 28, total 3 x rds = total 5 x pops.
at 02:00 i met friend 2 and her age 48 mom on ws, mom spoke some english so brokered the deal. said they had just arrived to patts but who knows (i give all these women the benefit of a doubt). at the hotel we have drinks at buddy 1's room, at his insistence, with his bargirl but to my irritation since it was delaying road 1. at 03:00 friend 2 and i do round 1, and in between naps we do road 2 & 3 and during one of those rounds i popped 3 times (side effect from the kamagra). she leaves around 12 noon.
3) wed / 2 may, unpoppable.
friend 3, overall b = service a + face b + body c
st b500 ($17).1 kid. 0 x pop.
around 02:00 i'm tipsy and walking br with buddy 1. i come across friend 3, she drives us on her motorbike to my hotel, commences with a bbbj. when it was time to finish, no matter how much i tried with my hand-party (masturbation) , i couldn't. between the alcohol, lack of sleep. 5 x pops the previous night, mini-me was tapped out.
day 4) thu / 3 may, milf.
friend 4 kwang (?) see photo, overall a = service a + face a + body a.
total st b1, 100 = bf b300 + lady fee b700 + tip b100.
15:00 at soi 6 lick bar, age 20 with 5 yr old kid. yes, she had her kid when she was age 15, and yet now her body is flawless with no traces of childbirth. excellent bj and intercourse but unwilling to try anal.
day 5) fri / 4 may, mean girl.
friend 5 wen, overall b = service b + face a + body a.
lt b1, 500 ($50).
it was raining hard around 05:00 and i was having my usual water (b30 ($1) + the usual tip b20 so the waitresses / employees are always wanting me to come back to order water / a drink) at goldstar bar (aka new star bar) on soi diamond & ws, across from candyshop disco. saw wen walk by so i chased after her, us both getting soaked by the rain. offered her a drink, she joined me and she ordered a water. currently she was a fl and she was coy about where she used to work (turns out it was soi 6). we agree on lt b1, 500. about 05:30 was round 1 and she gave excellent head including this really sexy thing where she's holding the base of my cock and slaps mini-me's head against her mouth / tongue (first time any woman's done that slapping thing with mini-me). during intercourse she tells me she's horny because she hasn't had sex / a customer in 2 weeks. (cry me a river, before 2012 friend 1 on 30 apr i hadn't had sex since my los oct-nov 2011 trip). i'm exhausted from all the thrusting but she finally climaxes, i pop for the first time then we rest. just before sleep she tells me that i can do her while she's sleeping, just wear a condom. sadly i didn't have the power to take her up on that offer. around 11:00 we're both awake, do round 2 and then she left.
she had this hot model look but i never bothered trying to hook up with her again because she had this haughty attitude (and she had the intelligence / bachelor's degree / witty english to back it up with) and i thought that if i had her again, she may not be as smoking hot as i remember her to be, so i'll just preserve / savor the memory i have of her stunner bod and face, especially when mini-me was slapping her mouth / tongue. she wouldn't let me take her photo because as she said 'have one farang go soi 6 and take photo of many lady he boom-boom and put it on internet' and she was worried i'the do something similar. absurd.
day 6) sat / 5 may, teenie.
friend 6, overall b = service b + face c + body a
total st b520 = st b500 + taxi b20.
met her on br and she said she was age 19 and had i'd which i should have checked (i just assumed if they were willing to provide an i'd then they're 18+). i just remember her having a good body, ok face, ok sex but the price was right. i took a photo of her but weeks later when my friend 14 sen saw the photo, friend 14 sen said she knew friend 6 from br and that she was age 16. so of course i deleted the photo.
day 7) sun / 6 may, miss six-pack.
friend 7 see photo, overall a = service a + face c + body a, cherry ass (?)
total st b600 ($20) = st b500 + tip b100, age 19, half (or full?) cambodian, age 20, normally works at pacha beer bar on soi 7.
i think this was the night i got drunk on sangsom (thai whiskey) bottle service at basilisk bar at new simon beerbar complex on ws. after buddy 1 did what he could do to get me drunk (i'm a dumb, happy drunk so he thinks it's hilarious when i'm wasted) , he helped me back to the hotel about 03:00. somehow i fell asleep in room 302's bed (right below my room 402) , woke up at 05:00 wondering why the hell it was so hot (aircon was off) , wondering where my netbook (small laptop) was and why the room looked different (because i was in the wrong room but fortunately the guest staying there checked out that morning) and i decided to go out.
when you have insomnia, the best place to go is insomnia. so i was there until 06:30 when it closed, got hungry and walked soi marine towards marine seafood. it was closed and the dining options were limited. friend 7 flirts with me as she's eating with her 2 friends. at 07:30 i decide to hang out at jp bar (on soi marine next to yakuza burger) and apparently that's where the freelancers are from 05:30/06:30 (when ibar / insomnia closes) until at least 10:00. i'm talking to the different fls but they balk at st b500 / lt b1, 000. friend 7 is at jp bar, flirts with me and grabs my sunglasses so i had to pursue her to retrieve them. we agree on st b600 and at 09:00 we're in my room. she showers, comes out and says 'don't get angry' and i'm thinking, 'crap, she's a ladyboy. ' nope, her period just started so we can cancel the st or she can do a bj. i said that's ok and it turns out she gives good head. i had mentioned anal intercourse earlier and she says out of the blue, let's try it.
so i tap in her cherry (?) ass. her face is ok but her body was toned to where i could feel her 4-pack or 6-pack abs, which i like. for whatever reason i hadn't taken any kamagra but mini-me rose up to the challenge of tapping her backdoor. she was very flattering, saying i looked 25 though i was 35, and that i also boom-boomed like a guy age 25. she asked if i had taken viagra, i said no but i have some and does she want me to take it? she said 'no, you take, you kill me' with all the fuck ass we were doing. about 10:00 she asks if she can sleep in my aircon room for a bit since her room has no aircon, and that she'll even pay me b100 ($3. 40) to do so. i said no prob. around 13:00 i have to kick her out since i'm meeting buddy 1 but i paid her the full st b600 = b500 (with the b100 discount since she used my aircon room for sleep) + tip b100 (her bj and anus made me happy). later i see her at pacha beerbar on soi 7 but she ignored me, i ignored her, she sent me angry sms texts, we made up but we never did hook up again.
day 8) mon / 7 may, [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s
friend 8 poo, overall a = service a + face b + body b, cim, age 19.
total st b900 ($30) = bf b700 (at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s that covers use of the st room upstairs, bf and the lady's fee for giving you a bj) + tip b100 + ld b100.
at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s on soi lk metro i picked poo because she was age 22, no kids, her face was cute enough (needs to wax the peach fuzz though) and her body looked decent. in the room she was willing to remove all her clothes except for her panties, which is fine since i just wanted to see / fondle what turned out to be her nice breasts. she had superb technique and spent about 40 min on the bj with the occasional breaks to wipe up her excess drool dripping down mini-me and to teasingly complain about why i took so long to finish. i thought about going to the hour mark but decided i wanted to climax so i finished with cim (which is standard at bj bars such as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and bliss lounge). back downstairs at the bar i bought her a ld, which seemed to be the cost of a regular (man / customer drink) + b40 surcharge which i guess is the lady's commission. sadly she no longer works at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900).
day 9) tue / 8 may, siam reap, overall b = service b + face b + body b, age 22, 3-holer.
total lt $90 = fine $70 (which covers bf + lady fee) + tip $20 (the escort seemed determined to get a fat $30+ tip and i think the tip is considered an essential part of her pay system)
did a 1 night package tour (ground transportation, hotel, all meals, guides, tours) to siam reap / angkor what / et al with buddy 1. after all the tours / dinner about 21:00 our taxi drove us to ktv (korean tv) joint per our instruction, inside mamasan showed us 2 batches of girls (approx 10+ girls per batch) and said it was st $50 (st hotel within walking distance) or lt $70 with lady staying with you until 05:00. i had to pay the lt $70 upfront to the mamasan, at my lucky angkor hotel (i don't recommend it due to distant location & joiner fee) i had to pay $5 joiner fee for bringing an outside 'masseuse', and in my room about 22:00 was round 1. during round 1 i wanted bbbj and she said 'you tip me $30' and i said '4 blowjobs' she said 'no' so i said '$30, 3 blowjobs no condom' and she said 'ok. ' during round 1 she did bbbj and surprisingly, anal, really well. round 2 was just bbbj and stupidly, bareback vaginal intercourse (we were both hot for each other at the time). around 01:00 i woke up to her sitting on top of me staring, asking 'you take me to angkor what? ' (my reply: 'no, i go with my friend') and 'you marry me? ' (my reply: 'no' thinking this'll turn in to that movie fatal attraction). she say 'i go now' and got dressed so i only tipped her $20 saying 'you only do 2 blowjobs, ' and she begrudgingly accepted the reduced tip then left.
so it was 02:00 and i was still afflicted with insomnia so i got dressed & found a motorbike taxi for a $4 ride from my hotel to downtown / pub street. it was dead so i had some cambodian street food and like everything i ate on the tour (at the tourist-friendly eateries) , it was crap. at 04:30 i get back to my hotel and call it a night.
day 10) wed / 9 may, insufficient.
friend 10 see photo, overall c = service b + face c + body c.
total st b1, 000 = bf b300 + st b700. 1 kid, age 24.
she works at a beerbar at the pattaya beer garden complex (officially named 'sirens') and in oct 2011 i had bought her a lady drink after finding out she was a 3-holer. in nov 2011 when i wanted to bf her (she was my safety / plan b / contingency girl) , some guy had bf'the her for 2 weeks so i was out of luck. now it was may 2012, she was available so i negotiated her lt lady fee to be b1, 500 ($50) + bf. we met up with buddy 1 and his bargirl, got drinks and smoked some shisha / hookah but i wasn't interested in shooting pool so we went to my room so i could get round 1 out of my system. total disappointment as she wasn't' a 3-holer, just bj and vaginal. her bj and vaginal skills were mediocre and the pregnancy wasn't kind to her body. so we re-negotiated to st, i wanting to pay her b500, her wanting b700 which i agreed to so she left about 23:00. such a letdown.
friend 11 see photo, overall b = service b + face b + body a.
st b700, age 21.
i think around 01:00 i found her on br and thought she was **** because of her outfit (kiddy colorful striped dress) and french bob haircut. i agree to pay b700 since she had no kid, at my room it turned out she had a great body but we just weren't sexually compatible. she left my room seemingly dissatisfied with the insufficient boom-boom, but i was happy getting my rocks off. photo was taken as she dashed out of my room rather disappointed with the sex. oh, well.
day 11) thu / 10 may, runner.
friend 12, overall c = service c + face b + body c.
st b1, 000, 1 kid.
about 04:00 on ws i encounter her and her ugly friend. friend 12 works at a soi 8 beerbar. i make them laugh and get friend 12 to go with me for lt b1, 200. at my room she gets a phone call and says her friend needs b1, 000 now, can i pay that now. i'm skeptical, friend 12 says she'll leave her purse in my room while she meets her friend outside to give her the b1, 000 and that friend 12 will return to the room and stay with me until 10:00. friend 12 returns to my room, we do 1 x pop ending in a cof. 30 min later i did a 2nd pop and friend 12 says that i've had my 2 x pops so she's leaving now. i'm irritated but i'm not going to argue, so i say bye. friend 12 wants the remaining b200 since we had agreed upon lt b1, 200, i say 'you go early, i no pay more' and she leaves. had i not given the b1, 000 earlier (maybe b500 instead) , i would have further docked her pay for reneging on staying with me until 10:00 (in my hopes that i'the get 3 to 4 x pops in total).
day 12) fri / 11 may, forgettable.
friend 13 see photo, overall b = service b + face b + body b.
st b700, age 23.
i don't remember anything about her (she's either from br or ws) except vaguely that she had a good body.
friend 14 sen see photo (1st of 3 hires) , sen.
total st b600 = st b500 + tip b100.
met her on br, her bj skills were awesome but i did fall asleep (stupid insomnia) for a bit. she spent 40+ min on the bj (with me on the love seat and then on the bed) but wouldn't take cim. nonetheless i tipped her b100 and eventually hired a 2nd and 3rd time, whereas in the past i would rarely hire the same escort a 2nd time and up until this trip, never a 3rd time.
friend 15 see photo (i also did her in 2011 which is when this photo was taken) , overall c = service b + face b + body f, cof.
total fl st b540 = st b500 + tip b40.
on br i recognized her from 2011 and decided to hire her again though she seemed to gain some weight. big mistake as once she was in my room and naked it was obvious she gained 12+ lbs and i asked if she was pregnant, she said she never had a kid and the fat was from visiting her mom for a bit and eating too much home-cooking. though she offered to lose her cherry ass to me for a bonus b100, i was so turned off by the fatness that mini-me couldn't even do her cherry ass. she was relieved to not do anal even if it meant foregoing the b100 bonus. i tipped her b40 out of sympathy but hiring her out of nostalgia & a vague memory of her doing a good bj was a big mistake since i could sense that she had gotten lardy.
day 13) sat / 12 may, forget you.
friend 16, total st b600 = fl st b500 + tip b100. i don't remember anything about this chick and my notes are severely lacking.
friend 17 see photo, som, overall b = service b + face c + body b. 3-holer.
total fl lt b1, 000, age 23 with an age 5 (?) kid.
i had first met her in oct 2008 when i bf'the her from worldwide agogo and it was a great gfe but we were not sexually compatible (during woman-on-top she was nearing climax but it was so painful for me that i told her to get off just before she could finish). in 2009 (?) until present she was working airport gogo so i'the run in to her each yr and we remained on friendly terms. the previous night i ran in to her+3 co-workers / airport gogos at insomnia. som was drunk so slept it off at my room (no hanky panky).
tonight about 04:00 after she had gotten off work she said she wanted to sleep at my room again. in my room she wanted sex, i asked 'how much? ' she says 'up to you' so i say 'b10' she looked unhappy so i double it to 'b20. ' i used to think pierced tongues were sexy and enhance fellatio but i've learned that mini-me doesn't like metal / pierced tongues rubbing against him so the bj (som has a tongue piercing) was ok. the vaginal intercourse was ok. som had tried anal before and was willing to do it with me, so the anal intercourse was good. when we woke up we did round 2. i take her to the pattaya orphanage and to see 'the avengers' movies at central festival mall. 6th floor, like i promised (in 2008 when i had bf'the her, my room's a / see was so cold she caught a cold which i felt guilty for and now 4 yrs later i said i would make it up to her by taking her to see 'the avengers'). at my room again we chat and as she leaves she wants payment. i pretend to give her b10, then b20 and of course she's insulted though i remind her 'before you say b20, up to you. ' i end up giving her lt b1, 000, which was what i was expecting to pay all along. she seemed happy and left. we're still on good terms but lt b1, 000 with her again would not work for me. aside from her being a 3-holer, we're just not sexually compatible. i did ask if any of her friends / co-workers at airport gogo would go fl with me, and she laughed and said not for lt b1, 000.
day 14) sun / 13 may. 3 hours.
friend 18 see photo, overall b = service b + face c + body c.
st b700. age 23, 1 kid.
at 05:00 i meet her at insomnia. i'm too tired to negotiate much so i agree to b700 and didn't find out until we were in my room and it was too late that she had a kid. her body was ok, face is too old, sex was ok. during intercourse i get a moderately-painful cramp in my right leg then it's ok, then a less painful cramp in my left leg then it's ok, then a mild cramp in my right leg again. friend 18 says her leg was cramping up (don't know if that was truthful, out of sympathy for me or just trust trying to drum up sympathy for more money). at 06:00 we fall asleep, at 09:00 we wake, i pay her b700 (which she accepts but says she normally gets st b1, 000) and she leaves. i remind myself to drink more water and eat some bananas (re-hydration and potassium) to prevent further cramps.
day 15) mon / 14 may,
friend 19 see photo, overall b = service b + face d + body b.
st b500. 1 kid. found her on br, maybe around 18:00. not a big fan of her face but turned out she had a good body.
friend 14 sen again (see previous photo; 2nd of 3 hires)
total st b600 = lady fee b100 + tip b500. cherry ass.
sometime after midnight i was on br and saw sen again. last time i paid her b500 + tip b100 and she jokingly said this time i can pay her b100 + tip b500, which i'm amenable to. at my place she says there was a euro john who offered her b2, 000 to pop her cherry ass, but because he was 'too big' it was too painful during insertion, so she missed out on the b2, 000 bonus. since we had history (during the 1st hire i fell asleep on her) , she was comfortable with me and i 'not big' so i popped her (supposedly) cherry ass for no additional bonus / cost. my guess as to why women let me tap their (cherry) asses, usually for free, is that aside from me being a good, hansum man who will go really slow & use plenty of lube, is that i'm 'not big' so it can't be that painful and anal intercourse is taboo so it turns them on. if it's their virgin / cherry ass popping then they might as well do it with me before they move in to the big leagues / johns with the big payoffs / bonuses.
day 16) tue / 15 may, triple.
friend 20 (1st of 4 hires) , shalita, overall b = service a + face a + body b, cim, cof.
extended st b900. age 23, 1 kid.
found her on br at 14:00 and we agree upon st b600. she later tells me that she's usually working coconut bar between 13:00 – 19:00 (after 19:00 she usually has a lt or may call it a day). at my place the 1st bj + cim was so good i asked her about staying with me 4 hrs (14:30 – 18:30) for extended st b900 instead of st b600 1 x pop. she said ok and on my 2nd pop it was on her stomach and the 3rd pop was cof. i would have hired her for lt but i had to meet my buddies at 19:00.
friend 21, overall b = service a + face b + body c.
fl lt b1, 000. age 24, 1 kid. she's a dancer at sweethearts agogo.
on ws around 04:00 i came across friend 21 and her friend, made my indecent proposal to friend 21 for st b500, lt b1, 000 and she wanted to do lt b1, 000. i had beer goggles on and once at my place i realized that her body wasn't impressive at all but it was nice to find a low maintenance / easy to negotiate with off-duty gogo. sex with her was ok and she said she worked sweethearts but her face / body was just ok. when i went to that gogo on 18 may (she said she was working that night) to buy her a ld i couldn't find her (and i didn't remember her name so the waitresses / dancers couldn't help me find her).
a couple nights earlier around 03:45 i met a monet (like the painter's paintings, the chick's face doesn't look good up close) who finished work at happy gogo and she scoffed at my st b500, lt b1, 000 and quoted me lt b3, 000 (that's happy gogo retail, no freakin' fl discount other than avoiding the bf b600).15 minutes later i ran in to a group of 5 dancers who just got off work from baccara gogo and the best (which isn't saying much) of the 5 i spoke to wanted lt b3, 000, which all her friends / co-workers said was a fair price since they worked baccara. i didn't even bother negotiating as at a 'discounted' lt b2, 500 (though absent any bf) i still wasn't interested. if she (and the happy gogo dancer) were gogo stunners i'the go up to lt b1, 500, maybe even lt b2, 000 but they were the subpar girls from happy / baccara. apparently they never got the memo about fls only being paid lt b1, 000 if ok-looking, lt b1, 500+ if good-looking or a stunner, by cheap charlies such as myself.
day 17) wed / 16 may, starfish.
friend 22, overall c = service c + face c + body c.
st b500. don't remember anything / have any notes on this one except that i had 1 x pop and she was a starfish. i probably met her on br.
day 18) thu / 17 may, sirens.
friend 23 see photo won.
overall a = service a + face b + body c. cim, cherry ass.
total fl st b660 = lady b500 + tip b100 + tip b60. age 23,
don't remember if she had a kid. she works at pattaya beer garden complex (aka sirens) , patty bar #99. at 10:00 i was walking on br in front of sirens complex when i ran in to her (i think she was headed home). though i could tell she had a tina turner physique (short and muscular which isn't my type) i offered st b500, lt b1, 000 and she accepted. at my room she's eager to please and though i appreciated her eagerness for long bouts of giving me head, her tongue piercings just uncomfortably rubbed against mini-me. she offered to take out the tongue piercing but i said it was ok since we were only doing st. after the anal sex we finished with cim. at 11:30 she left my place and i paid her b500 + tip b100 and said i'the visit her at her bar. that night at her bar i considered buying her a ld (b120+?) but decided to just give her tip b60 (whereas from a ld she would get b30 – b50) , and tip her 3 other co-workers b20 / ea, which came out to b120 anyway. i prefer to dole out b120 in b20 tips than buy 1 x ld for the same price.
during our session while in my bed i did my usual mo (modus operandi ie standard procedure) to enter the backdoor. while in the missionary position i grabbed my bottle of durex play lube, apply it to the tip of my middle finger while the escort is watching me knowing what i have in mind. maintaining some eye contact and with mini-me still inside vaginally, i lube up her sphincter and slowly insert my middle finger in to her anus. occasionally thrusting (in & out) mini-me, i then slowly withdraw mini-me from her vagina while simultaneously working my finger deeper in to her anus. once mini-me is out and my middle finger had been as deep as the 2nd knuckle, i remove my finger from her bunghole and apply lube to the condom, especially around mini-me's head as its initial entry is the hardest part of scoring some anal sex. of course all the while the lady is looking at me somewhat incredulous (especially if she has a cherry ass) and maybe giving some instructions on how i should do it, or expressing her concern that it'll hurt. then i slowly insert mini-me in to her rectum.
2011 was the first time i did a thai girl / escort anally and my old mo was to offer my hand for the girl to bite down on. i thought just the mere offer of my hand to bite on makes the chick brace for the worst so i changed it up in 2012. now the initial entry is still missionary position but with mini-me in her vagina, my middle finger to probe her anus before mini-me pops in.
friend 24 see photo appon, overall a = service a + face b + body b.
total st b580 = b500 + tip b80.
about 16:00 riding the songtaew (aka baht bus) southbound on br with buddy 2, i spotted friend 24. i buzzed the songtaew to stop, got off and spoke to her. later i found out that she was only at coconut bar for 10 min, talking to her friend when i approached her, so i was lucky to find her before she was poached by another lucky devil. she agreed to st b500 but as i didn't have any small bills (only b500 and b1, 000) i had to borrow b20 from her to pay for the songtaew ride for the 2 of us back to my hotel. i stopped at friendship mini-mart at logbase to get some things and some smaller bills but forgot to make sure i got b20s. at my room she gave an amazing bj and handjob combo (typically i don't care for hjs). upon completion i gave her b500 + b100 and i pointed out to her that i still didn't have any b20s but the b100 was to cover re-paying her the b20 i borrowed and her tip. she left happy. few days later i wanted to hire her again but she didn't respond to my sms / texts, so we were never re-united.
friend 25 see 2011 photo (i did her in 2011) ta, overall a = service a + face c + body a.
lt b1, 200. 3-holer. age 20.
i had ran in to ta on br a few days earlier, we remembered each other and i got her phone number. that night about 22:00 i texted her for a st b600, lt b1, 200 and she agreed to lt. about 01:00 we met in front of candyshop disco, stopped by buddy 3's room on the upper floor of grand hotel (soi 14, near my hotel) to partake a bit of his house party / drinks, then got to my place at 02:00. in 2011 she wanted cbj and didn't spend long on bbbj. in 2012 she took her time at bbbj which made me happy and even better was that she was now a 3-holer. had 2 x rounds (total 2 x pops) with her.
day 19) fri / 18 may, that's it.
friend 14 sen again (3rd of 3 hires)
total st b700 = lady b500 + tip b200.
about 17:00 i saw sen on br again. she would not do lt so i had to constantly hire for st for the sake of her amazing bjs: no complaining ever and she does the bj for as long as i want. she said that the 2nd time we were together and we did anal, she didn't feel right a few days after. i felt kinda guilty so at the end of the session i paid her b500 + tip b200 (b100 more than the previous 2 hires). we parted on good terms again.
friend 26 cindy, overall b = service a + face b + body c.
total st b800 = bf / lady fee b700 + tip b100. cim.
me and my 2 x buddies were at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) about 19:00 and i immediately selected friend 26 cindy before anybody else could. in the room i reminded her that i wanted her to take off her clothes, she took off her top / bra which was enough for me when i realized she was kinda thick (could lose maybe 7+ lbs). nevertheless she had a sexy face that reminded me of eva mendes, she did the bj for 30+ minutes and we finished with cim. downstairs i tipped her b100 instead of buying her a ld.
friend 27, overall b = service a + face c + body c.
total lt b1, 020 = b1, 000 + taxi b20.
after midnight i walked north on br and it was slim pickings that night. after initially passing up on friend 27, since i couldn't find any other reasonably priced br escort i back-tracked to friend 27 who had agreed earlier to do lt b1, 000. her face was ok and once naked at my place her body turned out to be a c (i thought it would be a d) , helped in part by the fact she never had kids. intercourse was ok but she had no complaints with doing the bj for long periods. had 2 x rounds (2 x pops) , also gave her taxi money and considered her my br safety. on subsequent nights i would see her again, i don't think she gets hired a lot because when she's sitting she really slouches (scoliosis?) , and she sits closer to the beach then the road so johns have a harder time seeing / communicating with her.
day 20) sat / 19 may, fond memories.
friend 28 see left 2012 photo, (also did her in 2011, see right photo) , overall a = service a + face b + body b.
st b500. on br about 18:00, she doesn't remember me but i remember her having a good body albeit it was ok sex. it was nice that she quoted me st b500, no haggling necessary. she said she used to work at a jomtien beerbar but decided to just work for herself.
friend 29 see photo, overall a = service a + face b + body b.
lt b1, 500, cherry ass. 3-holer, age 19.
i met her either at ws, insomnia or maybe marine disco, about 03:00. she's childless and 19, i was too tired to continue the hunt, so i agreed to her lt b1, 500. 04:00 we're in my room and she doesn't do much for bjs, but i was able to tap her cherry ass. she was reluctant to since it might hurt, but since she has cushion for the pushin' and i never got up to full ramming speed (i deliberately kept it slow to reduce pain) so it worked out fine for her from what i could tell. we slept and did round 2 about 10:30, no anal, i think just vaginal (or maybe i just had a hand-party and jizzed on her stomach).11:30 i buy her lunch at boat bakery (her thai dish + my drink was only b60+) and we part ways.
day 21) sun / 20 may, bliss lounge.
friend 30, overall b = service a + face c + body c.
total b800 = lady / bf b700 + tip b100. with buddy 4 for the first time i went to bliss lounge (on third roadatsoi excite (spelling?) , across from where x-cyte (sp?) disco used to be) , which is just about. 7+ mi (1+ km) east of [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). i had heard that until recently bliss charged total b600 (including bf+lady fee+use of standard st room upstairs) but the price was now total b700, same as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). it was 15:00 and my only time going to bliss so it was hard to tell if bliss had better women. i would guess that [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) has more women with most being ok or ugly looking and a couple of cuties whereas bliss' escorts were fewer but on average kinda cute.
same business model as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) but bliss' standard room upstairs has an easy chair and a bed, albeit twin-sized mattress. at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) to get the room with a bed, full (?) sized, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)' friend 26 cindy told me it was b1, 400 instead of b700 but included fs, not just a bj. at bliss i did use their facility to shower before & after the bj, i don't know if that's available at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900).
friend 31, overall c = service c + face b + body c.
total lt b1, 020 = b1, 000 + taxi b20. cherry ass. about 22:00 i thought i found a br bargain when she agreed to lt b1, 000, but that was only the start of the tab.
her story was that a year ago she was a sweethearts gogo dancer, a euro john liked / bf'the her, eventually paid b8, 000 ($260) to release her from her gogo contract. 1 year and 1 week later (now may 2012) they've been boyfriend / girlfriend with him sponsoring her with euro 500 each month (about $620 / month). in aug 2012 he was coming to thailand again to marry her. on 20 may when i met her at coconut bar she needed money because she had spent her month's sponsorship money on shopping the previous day.
she drank a lot, total 9+ x singhas thru-out the course of the night. about 22:30 was round 1 (1 x pop) at my place and she drank 1 x singha from my fridge. it was raining heavily so we played pool at new simon and she had 1 x singha. went to old simon, she had 1 x singha. went to visit her friends' apple beerbar at 'made in thailand' beerbar complex on 2nd road across from central festival mall, there she had 2 x singhas. (fortunately it was an employee / friend's birthday so there was free food & the be-day girl rang the bell once, buying all employees & customers a round of drinks). went to insomnia she had 2 x singhas, at ibar another singha. at 05:00 back at my hotel room she had another singha from my fridge, we did round 2 (1 x pop) , she vomited and clogged my bathroom sink (obviously she was feeling sick from the excessive drinking but possibly due to my love-making) , wanted to go back to her room to sleep, i paid her b1, 000 and she asked for taxi fare and showed me the contents of her purse, bereft of any baht. as i gave her taxi b20, she said she missed her euro boyfriend and wish he was here. give me a break, lady.
when i was out window-shopping on br i had thought it might be nice to go out gfe with my escort: some food, some drinks, a little disco. friend 31 was not the person to do it with, and worst of all she blamed me for her intoxication saying earlier 'you take care of me? ' and after round 2 'why you no take care of me? ' i had hoped her getting buzzed would make her more receptive to popping her cherry ass, but during round 2 while in the doggy style position (maybe that was the problem, we should have been missionary) after a little finger probing i was only able to get mini-me's head in to her butt for a look. she said it was too painful, so there wasn't full insertion, but i'll count it as a cherry poppin' success because 1) after me she may not let another cock get past her sphincter and 2) although full insertion is preferable, mini-me head insertion is a grey area that i'll qualify as cherry-popping.
friend 32 see photo, overall b = service b + face c + body c.
total fl lt b1, 000 = b1, 000 + tip b60, 3-holer, age 21, normally works at dream bar pim 1 at new simon beerbar complex.
my timeline of when i got friend 31 and 32 is definitely off as i did not get them both lt in the same night. whatever day (day 21 or so) i got friend 32, what happened was: about 04:00 i'm walking towards insomnia when i come across 3 ladies from pim beerbar. yu (that's the bargirl's name) and i was on friendly terms so she said how about i take friend 32 (who spoke little english) , i asked lt b1, 000 and does she boom-boom ass, the answer was yes and yes, so deal. at my room friend 32 is too wild for mini-me and with her tongue piercing the bj hurts, when she was rough-riding me on top it hurt (i thought i would suffer a penile fracture) , and things finally got better when we did anal intercourse. she took full insertion / full ramming speed no problem and seemed to enjoy it.
at 09:00 i wake up but it was too late, she was in the bathroom showering and when she came out was fully dressed. since mini-me was afraid of her vagina and bj skills, and had her anally last night so that it was no longer a novel this morning, i just did a hand-party. i got her to lay beside me (fully clothed, i didn't want to make her shower again because i'm just so considerate) , and i jizzed on her kneecap (kneecapped her?). now, a round traditionally involves intercourse or a bj but i only require that of round 1 and subsequent round (s) that she only be with me (eg just laying in bed beside me, but usually we have oral / vaginal / anal intercourse also). besides, every one of my pop's is a result of my hand-party at the end of the round (long story but here's the short story: since 2008 i haven't popped inside a girl's vagina / anus and it's unlikely i'll ever be able to do so again. to pop during cim i have to do a hand-party and a second before climax insert mini-me in to her mouth).
i walk past her / her bar on a few occasions but mostly ignore her. her saving grace was that she was a 3-holer (though truthfully she did her best to please me with her vagina / mouth, but with the language barrier i couldn't communicate how i wanted it done, so we definitely were not sexually compatible). she was studying a book titled 'get rich quick english for bargirls' or something like that. on one of my last nights i stopped by her bar, tipped her b60 ($3) to try to make amends, she seemed happy, and i left at that.
day 22) mon / 21 may. 5 in 6.
friend 20 shalita again (2nd of 4 hires)
total lt b2, 220 = lt b2, 000 (?) + tip b100 + mcdonalds b120, 6 x bjs but only 5 x pops.
via sms i think i offered lt b2, 000 (, at least that's what i wrote in my notes but i don't typically pay fl lt b2, 000) for 12 hrs with her, approx 19:00 – 07:00 which was the time she spent on lt with one of her regular johns (though i know that john paid lt b1, 500 to her though i don't know how many boom-booms / bjs / pops he squeezed in). she came to my hotel & i explained to her that she could hang out in my room (sleep, watch cable tv, use my netbook / facebook) while i was out / with my buddies in-between bjs. she said during my 1st hire of her we did do intercourse (i don't remember) but we both agreed that just bjs this time was ideal for both of us. as best as i can remember at 19:00 was bj 1 then i go out / see buddies. 21:00 bj 2 then go out / see buddies. 23:00 bj 3 then go / out see buddies. 00:30 bj 4 but i couldn't finish and i go to sleep. 04:00 bj 5 (with pop 4) and then 06:00 bj 6 (with pop 5). she never complained about quantity or how long the bjs went, and when i showed her how i liked her to take mini-me and slap it against her tongue / mouth (which friend 5 wen first did) , she added that to her repertoire of teabagging, deep-throating, tongue doing circles around mini-me's head, etc. at 07:00 i paid her b2, 000 (?) and was so happy with the 6 bjs / 5 pops that i gave her tip b100 and gave her b120 for mcds when she mentioned that she had a craving for mcds (i was thinking of taking her out to a meal but so i could avoid going out in to the sizzling sun i just gave her the money to buy her own breakfast).
day 23) tue / 22 may, bangkok
friend 33, overall c = service c + face b + body c (service c since her workplace music killed my mojo)
total st b700 including lady fee / bf / use of st spot upstairs at lollipop 1 (bj bar) on sukhumvit soi 10.
at 19:30 i checked out the lollipop 1 lineup and it was ok, at 00:00 checked out bkk [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) but it was unsatisfactory so at 00:30 i was back at lollipop 1 to pick a lady. her and i went upstairs and unfortunately i only had a couch and curtains to separate me from the other riff-raff johns. her technique was ok with mostly head-bobbing. the easy listening music was irritating the hell out of me and so i couldn't finish. at 01:00 lollipop was closing, it was a lost cause for me (i blame the crappy music) , left without tipping the lady, walked down the street to my hotel and finished in the comfort of my bed in my hotel room. wasn't easy at all, but it had been 18 hrs since i last ejaculated, i was caught up on my sleep, i wasn't drunk, so mini-me should have been re-charged by then.
from 20:00 – 24:00 i checked out soi cowboy & nep (nana entertainment plaza) +parking lot. for gogos it was bf b600 + st b2, 000, lt before. 000. drinks were expensive with the draft beer alone being b110 and the gogo dancers were rarely topless / nude. soi cowboy's bkk baccara gogo was packed (with ladies & johns) but the lack of nudity and expensive drinks made me really wish i was back in patts. at nep i should have checked out angelwitch gogo but i do remember being somewhat happy with bkk spanky's gogo compared to most other bkk gogos being middling. at 02:00 after i was done with my lollipop / private hand-party ordeal i decided to check out bkk insomnia disco. at that time cover was b300 so i should have gone in before midnight (?) to see if the cover was less and get a handstamp so i can return anytime. insomnia bkk is easily more than twice the size of patts' insomnia but the layout was disappointing and i think the men outnumbered the women (whereas patts tends to be more women). after talking to fls at bkk insomnia, at nana parking lot, at eateries on sukhumvit and while walking home from the club, by 04:00 the best i came up for an adequately attractive sp was fl st b1, 000 and fl lt b2, 000. i considered hiring fl lt b2, 000, age 23 even though she had a kid but when she wanted cbj and i wanted bbbj, the deal fell thru. no problem because at 12:00 the next day i did hotel check-out, was on the bell shuttle service to patts and was at my patts hotel at 15:00.
day 24) wed / 23 may, rain over me.
friend 34 see photo, overall b = service b + face c + body c.
total st b520 = b500 + taxi b20. age 21.
15:30 at my patts hotel again i hurriedly unpacked the minimum, grabbed my umbrella and dashed towards br. too late as it had already started raining heavily. near marriott the first lady i spoke to balked at st b500 even though i was the only john braving the high wind & dense rain to hire her. i continued north on br and soon came across friend 34, agreed upon st b500 so we hopped a songtaew back to my hotel. she never had a kid but her body was just ok. i vaguely remember the bj and intercourse being satisfactory and i didn't try to tap her ass. i was just happy to have a sp with little effort and little cost, especially compared to bkk.
friend 35 see photo, overall c = service b + face c + body c.
total st b520 = b500 + taxi b20. age 23, 1 kid.
i think it was around midnight when i was on br and came across friend 35. i think it was an ok bj and i skipped the intercourse (the pregnancy was not good to her body and in the light of my room i realized that her face was not for me after all).
friend 36 pop see photo, overall a = service a + face b + body b.
total lt b1, 320 = lady b1, 000 + tip b200 + taxi b20 + food b100. 3 rounds. 3 x pops. 3-holer. 1 kid. works at big c mall.
i was at insomnia and 04:00 – 06:00 i had wasted my time flirting with this age 21, hot, hourglass shaped ex-champagne gogo who claimed to not have silicone (implants) and that her beautiful rack was all natural. as my occasional habit, for the group (me + my target ie the ex-gogo + her friends in this case 3 other ladies) i bought insomnia's popcorn (b95?) for us to share and a round of slushee shots at b30 / shot. the b95 popcorn and the b30 / slushee shot was the cheapest way i knew of to treat the girls since a beer is b100+ each and bottle service is b1, 000+. though ex-champagne girl and i freaked / danced a little and lightly kissed, i could tell she was losing interest and when i first met her at 04:00 i should have taken her reply 'we go when i finish drink, ok? ' as a warning to move on. by 06:00 she had finally finished her beer but when i asked 'we go now, ' she inquired 'how much you give me, ' i say 'how much you want? ' then 'st b500, lt b1, 000' and she didn't dignify that offer with a response. so i just shrugged in disgust at wasting my time on this high maintenance chick, walked off to another part of insomnia and luckily found friend 36 soon thereafter.
at 06:00 i asked pop if she wanted to go with me, she asked 'you pay me, ' i say 'yes, lt b1, 000' and off we went. on the way to the hotel she wanted durian (the king of fruits) so at a fruit truck i bought about b95 worth of it. in my room i found out she had a kid but apparently it didn't affect her breasts / stomach too much. she had a gorbachev birthmark blotch on part of her forehead (which she tries to hide with her bangs) but i still found her really cute. she was off the next 2 days from her job at a big c mall shop. 06:30 towards the latter part of round 1 initially she said 'no boom-boom ass' but then as i was doing my lube, middle finger, mini-me's grand entrance thing she went from 'no' to 'slowly. ' i think she said she had done fuck-ass once before and didn't care for it. for whatever reason we had a good time doing it. she rode me woman-on-top with cock in her ass.
i think it was round 2 (at 10:00 after we napped?) that during the fuck-ass part she rode me reverse-cowgirl style. about 13:00 she showered, got dressed and was about to leave. i flirted with her some, while behind her i pulled down her sexy, tight black shorts & panties (i think she had some on) and rubbed mini-me against her buttocks. unexpectedly, mini-me woke up and i wanted boom-boom and pop was game. we went over to the bed and with her bootie shorts pulled down to her knees i took her from behind. before long i grabbed the lube, she said 'slowly' and we were boom-booming ass. after this 3rd pop. 3rd round (only lasted 20 min or so) she didn't even bother showering before she left. i paid her the lt b1, 000, told her here's tip b200, taxi b20 and another food b100 (since i didn't want to go with her to eat in some airconless joint / food stand).
day 25) thu / 24 may, mom's teenie.
the night before my buddies and i hung out at drinking street (off 2nd road, across from soi 1 or so) when i mistook teenie 2 for a bargirl. her and her mom's business was actually replacing chairs / barstools, and though she wouldn't go with me then she gave me her phone number. so this night we had sms coordinated to meet at 19:00 at my hotel and in my text i clearly stated 'short time 500 baht, long time 1, 000' which wouldn't look good as evidence during a prosecution of pre-meditated statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). total waste as when mom + teenie 2 arrived to my hotel reception at 19:30 and i insisted i wanted her i'd for the front desk, with the hotel receptionist as interpreter the teenie admitted to being only age 17 and without i'd, and her mom lying and saying that she thought i just wanted to 'take her (daughter) to dinner. ' yes, that's exactly why i bring women up to my room, for dinner and a cable tv b-movie = ridiculous. for their troubles i gave the mom / mamasan taxi b20 and the teenie daughter b100.
my memories a little murky on the rest of the night but i think at 20:30 i met with my buddies to gogo / beerbar hop. around 23:00 i ran in to shalita again, this time on ws.
friend 20 shalita again (3rd of 4 hires) , lt b1, 500, 4 x bjs. 4 x pops. so 30 minutes after saying hi to shalita on ws, i decided she would do for the night. i texted her, we met up and agreed upon the fee. i think she was with me from 00:00 – 12:00 and all we did were bjs.
day 26) fri / 25 may, forgo the bargain lt.
friend 37 see photo, overall b = service b + face b + body b.
total st b620 = b600 + taxi b20. age 21.
i think around 22:00 i came across friend 37 on br and b600 seemed reasonable considering she was childless and young. once on the songtaew when i asked her she said she does lt b1, 200 so i was really surprised (i was expecting her to say she didn't do lt or quote me b1, 500. b2, 000). at my room the bj (?) and / or intercourse (?) was ok and she had a nice body but i just wasn't feeling that emotional, kinship souls connection and thought i should try my luck with another fl since the night was young. deciding against the lt hire, i paid her the st and she left.
friend 38 see photo, overall c = service b + face c + body c.
total st b520 = b500 + taxi b20.
after midnight (maybe 03:00?) i was on br and we agreed upon st b500. i assume we at least did a bj, maybe intercourse but definitely not anal (which i would have remembered). i don't think she has a kid and i think her body was somewhat better than what i was anticipating.
day 27) sat / 26 may, slim pickings.
friend 39 see photo, overall c = service c + face d + body c.
total st b520+ = b500 + taxi b20 + small can v8 + yogurt. has a kid, said she was age 21 but was actually age 29.
at 10:00 i was on br and i walked long before i came across anything even remotely decent eg friend 39. she had a kid but at st b500 at 10 in the morning, i figured why not. in my room i found out she was a smoker (cigarettes in addition to cocks) and during the bj because of the smell i kept thinking of an ashtray. we moved from the loveseat to the bed, i hurriedly finished on her stomach and i bidded her adieu. we had gone to logbase before the hotel and in friendship mini-mart she had asked for about b30 worth of stuff (the v8 juice and yogurt cup) and in the hotel room i gave her my durian (it was stinking up my fridge) remaining from when i bought it for friend 36 (i don't like the taste but it's a potent laxative, though in thailand i'm rarely backed up due to all the fruit / vegetable eating in my los diet).
friend 40 koy see photos (she's in the left photo; her older, twin sister in the right photo is 2011 friend 8) , koy, overall a = service a + face c + body a.
total st b620+ = b600 + taxi b20. age 21.
at 15:00 i was at my favorite hole in the wall eatery in restaurant alley near tukcom and came across friend 40 sitting with 2011 friend 8 and a 3rd girl. i ordered my food and they said i should join them at their table. we didn't talk much but i did try all of their dishes and offered them the 2 dishes i ordered. i gestured to the restaurateur that i wanted to pay for all of us and the bill came out to total b300 ($10) = b260 + tip b40. back at the table i guess the ladies didn't notice i paid since when one of them was about to pay the restaurateur told them the bill was already taken care of. i had asked 2011 friend 8 if it was ok if i went with her twin sister, she nodded yes. the meal over i got up, asked koy if she wanted to go with me. she asked how much and i said st b500, lt b1, 000. she countered st b700, i said b600 and the deal was sealed. her and i walked back to my hotel. her older twin sister had a kid which resulted in stomach wrinkles and consequences for her breasts. this younger sister had a practically immaculate body: slim, perfectly proportional medium-a cups and no blemishes from child-bearing. i even considered hiring both for st or lt so i could lay them naked side-by-side and analyze how much a pregnancy affects a woman.
16:00 at my hotel i did take kamagra but the ½ pill wasn't enough. around the 20 min mark i just lost my erection and mini-me was falling asleep. i apologized, she seemed understanding, and as i did my hand-party she did her own hand-party. i finished myself and she finished herself (i rarely see los chicks masturbating themselves to completion). she was still horny and wanted more boom-boom but mini-me was all pooped out. had mini-me awaken i'm sure i could have tapped her cherry ass, but alas it was not to be. i paid her and per her request walked her down to the lobby and out the hotel. biggest mistake (before her i walked only 2 other ladies out; i usually just stayed in my room to savor finishing and avoid exerting myself down & up the 4 flights of stairs) as i watched her hot, sexy body walk away from me, my body turned towards my hotel to walk. not looking where i was going, i fell into a hole, sustaining an injury to my right shin i'm still trying to recover from.
friend 41 see photo, overall b = service b + face b + body b.
total st b560 = b500 + taxi b60. age 21.
after midnight i found friend 41 on br and she quoted me st b500 so i immediately agreed to it and we hopped on the baht bus. since she had no kids she had a pretty good body. i'm guessing she did an ok bj and we had ok intercourse as i don't recall much. if i did try to tap her ass i was denied entry because i wouldn't forget tapping her's.
day 28) sun / 27 may, mother approved.
friend 42, overall a = service a + face c + body b.
total lt b1, 040 = b1, 000 + taxi b20 + mom taxi b20. cherry ass. age 21.
friend 14 sen had finally agreed to go with me lt (b1, 500?) but when i sms'the her at 21:00 she replied that she was ill tonight and could go lt with me the following night. after ws gogo / beerbar-hopping at midnight i walked from ws on br towards soi 6. i looked for a couple of bargirls who worked on soi 7& i considered bfing on previous but neither were available. on soi 6 at 01:00 at lick bar i saw friend 4 kwang (?) and told her let's go but unfortunately lick bar was open and the lt bf b500 was still in effect. earlier that day at 17:00 i had visited her at soi 6 and she said lady fee lt b2, 000 and mamasan said lt bf b800 but i could pick her up at 21:00 since she had many customers. i lost interest then mamasan, 'ok. 7 pm' but i just went away empty handed. now that it was 01:00 the lt bf b500 seemed irritating and i declined her offer of total st b1, 000 = bf b300 + lady b700 (same as my first hire of her) so it was not meant to be with friend 4 kwang (?).
02:00 walking south on br from soi 6 i eventually came across friend 42 sitting with a br vendor (tea / snacks or something) who turned out to be friend 42's mom. i discretely propositioned friend 42 st b500, lt b1, 000 and she considered it. the mom knew what i was looking for and seemed to encourage friend 42 to go with me, friend 42 gave me an affirmative, i asked what time she would go home and she said 10:00 so the deal was sealed. i gave the mom b20 and said 'for taxi' and hopped in a songtaew with her daughter. at my hotel she told me she used to work at a beerbar, and she tried 1 day as a gogo but that was just too tiring so she quit that and now she's a student. her last john was a month (?) ago. during round 1 she does a good bj and intercourse and i was pleasantly surprised when it didn't take much sweet-talking to get her to try anal. i had to do all the work (even with woman-on-top it took my hips / exertion to get her body / anus to bounce up & down on mini-me) but it was so worth it. it's all perception but when i'm doing all the work during vaginal it's tiresome and i worry about losing the erection, but do the same work during anal and i feel energized, mini-me doesn't fall asleep when compressed by her sphincter and intercourse seems much more gratifying.
tangent: 04:40 she's asleep and i couldn't really sleep so i stroll ws to get food & see what's going on but i have to be in my room again at 06:00 because buddy 1 (now back in the us) wrote that he would skype / call me then. at 06:00 i'm back in my room really to do a #2 in my own bathroom, and at 6:15 buddy 1 and i finally skype. normally i hate to be bothered by anybody in the us when i'm in deep mongering mode (even if it's an los trip for 30-days i just want to focus on my friends & buddies in los & ignore the noise from the us) , but buddy 1 had been with me in los just a couple of weeks earlier so i made an exception. at 06:25 i depart my hotel & rush to insomnia which closes at 06:30. for the past couple of hrs i had been sms flirting with this age 22 college grad fl (miss graduate) who i had met at soi 8 where she was drinking for free at her friend's beerbar. i considered paying her fl lt b2, 000 (she would not come down to b1, 500) as i have a weakness for college students / recent grad fls and she did have a nice body from what i could tell but her face was only a c, maybe a b, on account of her poor complexion. i had already popped / had no power but i wanted a friendly chit-chat with her at insomnia and if we never fornicate / do st / lt then it'the be easier to establish a solely plutonic friendship as i think she was from bkk. at 06:28 the insomnia bouncers let me in but i couldn't find miss graduate even though at 06:00 she texted me she was there & i replied i'the be there at 06:30. i figured she had found a john in the last 30 minutes, now 06:33 insomnia's music was off & lights on so trying to meet up with her turned out to be pointless. i did run in to friend 36 pop at insomnia who said she now worked part-time at 7-11. to someday do a 3-holer threesome with friend 36 pop & friend 42 would blow my mind / mini-me's mind (which is probably what doing a devil's den threesome is like but that's too rich for my blood / wallet). since friend 36 & friend 42 didn't know each other no point in trying to organize a threesome.
07:00 i'm back in the room, friend 42 slightly awake and more importantly, horny so we do round 2 though i can't remember which holes were entered, the vagina at the very least. we're both asleep at 07:30 and at 10:00 we wake and friend 42 said it's her time to leave. i should have set my alarm for 09:30 so i could squeeze in / out a round 3, but the kamagra benefits were gone and on account of my leg / shin injury my body / mini-me were beginning to suffer the aftershocks (soreness, lack of energy, stiffness as in the lack of mobility, limping) so even sodomy may not be enough to get me erect / popping. i pay friend 42 and she's gone.
day 29) mon / 28 may, anti-climax.
friend 20 shalita again (3rd of 4 hires)
total extended lt b2, 235 = extended lt b2, 200 + taxi b20 + loose coins i wanted to get rid of b15, 4 x bjs but only 2 x pops.
a few days earlier i had worked out with shalita for her to stay with me for 24 hrs from 12:00 mon / 28 may until 12:00 tue / 29 may (at which time i had to check-out of my hotel & catch bell shuttle to the airport) for (extended) lt b2, 200. unfortunately when i got around to booking my bell shuttle i had to get picked up at 10:30 to make my flight, so that meant check-out at 10:15 (which meant my negotiated extended lt would be cut short 2 hrs) and shalita got to my hotel late, at 13:00 (which i kind of expected). so from 13:00 until 10:00 left me about 21 hrs with shalita which would suffice. the worst part was i had hoped to get 6+ x bjs. 6+ x pops in but the shin injury messed me up physically though i had initially thought it was a relatively minor cut / scratch (it's not as if i broke a bone). for bj 1: the 13:00 – 14:00 bj (90% bj. 10% my hand-party) mini-me went soft and the 14:00 – 14:30 hand-party (90% hand-party – 10% bj) yielded no pop. my entire body achin' (though it was only my right shin and pride that was injured) , i slept 15:00 – 18:00. 18:00 – 19:00 we had chicken with rice & chicken soup (b50 / plate) on soi 15 for dinner and after stopped at a pharmacy to get a b40 tamarind sore throat / cough syrup for shalita (she had a 'bad man' john for her lt the night before who was in to throat-gagging shalita against her protestations).
shalita asked for cake for dessert and since i could not manage to limp to mcds with her (is there no other place on ws for cake / pastries, i only know of the ws gelaterias selling gelato) so gave her b200 to pick out what she wanted while i went to my room. at 19:30 she meets me back in my room and it's bj 2 time and luckily i took kamagra at 19:00 (though it's better to do so on an empty stomach).19:30 – 21:00 (no, it's never 90 minutes of straight sucking, hand-pumping, there were breaks to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), wash after pissing, take a breather, cuddle and assuage my blue-ball pain, curse beneath my breath, etc) the bj and my hand-party at long last, thank allah, yielded pop 1. 21:00 – 01:00 i slept and the 01:00 – 02:00 bj 3 resulted in no pop, i curse you, flesh wound!
oh i wish the porn websites weren't blocked in los so viewing internet porn to help me with finishing wasn't an option. 01:00 – 07:00 sleep and thinking that i was having hot flashes / bouts of fevers on account of my body fighting off any infection / gangrene i occasionally awake in a pool of sweat, but at 07:00 i finally think to check my aircon setting and shalita had turned it up from my usual 25 degrees celsius (77 degrees fahrenheit) to a freakin' 28 celsius (82. 4 fahrenheit) because it had been too cold for her. i turn it down to 25 celsius which meant i was no longer dripping with sweat (moreso now a slow run-off of sweat) during a bj / hand-party.
07:30 – 08:45 bj 4 and i was so worried i wouldn't get a pop in before leaving los that it could have been a self-fulfilling prophecy. my old, frail body (though i'm only age 35; i have no idea how those age 60+ mongers continue do it) was expending whatever miniscule energy i had dealing with the shin injury consequences that it had little / nothing to power mini-me with. internet porn was unavailable so i thought about all the escorts i did on this trip, then i replayed all my favorite internet porn clips: asian street meat, exploited teens asia, creampie thais, japanese porn. then i thought about caucasian porn, mostly from eastern europe since i love spinners: double teamed teens and the like. my imagination didn't really help. 08:45 i considered having shalita just wait in the bathroom so i could finish (?) in privacy since maybe mini-me had stage fright or maybe i just needed to pop more kamagra. at any rate. 08:45 – 09:00 (we're both laying in bed) i tell shalita to lay on her left-side to face away from me, i do a hand-party as if it was my last and literally it is my last hand-party before leaving los and spending 20+ hrs getting back to the us. finally, i pop (only pop 2) and was so relieved because i did not want to endure air travel with blue balls. both pops were on to the bedsheets, no cim, no cof, because i was so laser focused on my hand parties / finishing that i worried if i took the split second to aim for her face or insert mini-me in to her mouth for cim, the pops wouldn't materialize. these last 20+ hrs with my last p4p of the trip was anti-climactic but sadly it's probably more sex than i'll get in the next 11 months in the us waiting / hand-party training for my next los trip.
on day 30, tue / 29 may, sadly, i fly back to the us.
Tony Hoeprano
06-25-12, 08:01
I hope nobody copies and pastes his post!
Warning: Do not read this report if you're easily bored or really negative / critical. This is all IMHO and YMMV.Thanks for the heads up, Amex. I took your advice.
When I want to read a novel I go to the bookstore.
Warning: Do not read this report if you're easily bored or really negative / critical. This is all IMHO and YMMV.Thank you very much. I will read it carefully. Seems like a very good guide to Pattaya night life and also many things that concerns the life outside the mongering. I'm going late October and I will probably have read this megapost many times til then.
LovingAsia
06-25-12, 12:48
From your report, it appears the price ST500 / LT1000 are not sticking. You don't appear to be as cheap a charlie as you were last year.
Thanks for sharing.
LovingAsia
06-26-12, 13:30
Looks like a good read. Can someone do a summarized version.My impression having read AMEX's previous reports is that you can pick up (or be picked up by) girls any time of day or night, so it's not going to require much effort at all to score. GoldStar bar is one of the places to view activities on WS without having to pay up for expensive drinks (water 30B?). Seems it's harder to get ST500 / LT1000. Amex has been spending a lot more this time round, which makes me think he's now got a job!
Hi Guys, I'm back after spending twenty fu*k*in days in amazing Thailand. All preparations done at ISG have been really helpful but nothing went really as decided, I just went with the flow. In last 3 weeks I picked some 32 girls / women & for me it was life time experience, have no words to express the vibrance of Pattaya. As soon as sun sets the city goes crazy, I just couldn't believe my eyes, everywhere along the roads are open bars full of women, wine & music calling on you.
I started with Pattaya MPs, I picked one girl each at Honey for 1800, PP for 1800 & dream teen massage for 400+1500 after bargain. Then I had fucking amazing teen girl at SOi 6 for B1000, she even promised me next session for B700 but when I got back the other day she refused & said that offer was for the same day. Next I picked a woman over 40 from some beer bar on my first step to walking street, I paid 2100, 1000 to lady + 400 bar fine + 400 drinks + short time room for B300. Rest I picked were all freelancers from along the beach road & walking street for 700-1000 baht. Fortunately no one tried to rip me off but yes all freelancers were in real hurry except few who even stayed with me for whole night only after I blasted their pussies like there's no tomorrow which they really loved.
After having an amazing experience in Pattaya I landed up in Bangkok to spend my last few days. But I was not happy at all after experiencing Pattaya until again I explored Nana Plaza & area around it. Fucking great variety with so many women & the best thing which I never expected was to find few sexy arabians & black girl from kenya. As my first hotel at B900 was charging me a joiners fee of 600 so I had to go to ST hotels but then soon I switched to little more expensive hotel at B1200 near Nana BTS but they didn't charge me any joiners fee & had a free coffee vending machine too which saved me B200 a day. Here I picked 2 black beauties. 2 Arabians, & rest beautiful Thai girls.
Finally with so many phone no's & girls left untreated I had to leave, on my last day I was so sad as I didn't want to leave this country. Thailand is just so amazing. Now I'm back & again planing to go to the kingdom in sep-oct. This time I'm planning a long trip by getting a condo with kitchen on monthly basis, that will save me a lot. It was my best ever trip indeed, thanks again to everyone here who guided me to this kingdom of heaven.
I hope nobody copies and pastes his post!Yeah andnmaybe to comment "good report".
Hi Guys, I'm back after spending twenty fu*k*in days in amazing Thailand. All preparations done at ISG have been really helpful but nothing went really as decided, I just went with the flow.
This time I'm planning a long trip by getting a condo with kitchen on monthly basis, that will save me a lot. It was my best ever trip indeed, thanks again to everyone here who guided me to this kingdom of heaven.Is that all? 3 weeks all in this? Kidding but Maybe you want to elaborate the more interesting encounters as the arab and black girls, some MP, with prices.
Joiner fee: said many Time: check your hotel choice and better book a room for two.
One more time: LT FL Disco = 1000 baht!Which discos? What age range are your girls?
After having an amazing experience in Pattaya I landed up in Bangkok to spend my last few days. But I was not happy at all after experiencing Pattaya until again I explored Nana Plaza & area around it. Fucking great variety with so many women & the best thing which I never expected was to find few sexy arabians & black girl from kenya. As my first hotel at B900 was charging me a joiners fee of 600 so I had to go to ST hotels but then soon I switched to little more expensive hotel at B1200 near Nana BTS but they didn't charge me any joiners fee & had a free coffee vending machine too which saved me B200 a day. Here I picked 2 black beauties. 2 Arabians, & rest beautiful Thai girls.32 Girls! Kudos bro!
Where did you find the arabian chicks? What was their price? Performance? Which hotel was B1200 with no joiner fee and coffee vend?
Mr Enternational
06-26-12, 18:35
Which discos? What age range are your girls?All discos. (Lucifer, Walking Street, Insomnia, Mixx, Marine, Flexx, etc.). All age ranges. Standard price is 1000. Sometimes you get ouliers like girls coming from BKK for the weekend or girls who have been spoiled by guys who like to give more, but tell those no thanks and step to the next one.
All discos. (Lucifer, Walking Street, Insomnia, Mixx, Marine, Flexx, etc.). All age ranges. Standard price is 1000. Sometimes you get ouliers like girls coming from BKK for the weekend or girls who have been spoiled by guys who like to give more, but tell those no thanks and step to the next one.Marine disco is old now and does not get going to after 2am. Insomnia is okay but I avoid after some of the violent attacks by their door staff on foreigners. If you have a problem at Insomnia it will be open season on you and you will be assaulted by a group of doorstaff armed with weapons who will leave you severely injured. Indulge at your own risk. I know as I've seen it happen.
The Windex Man
06-26-12, 23:13
Warning: Do not read this report if you're easily bored or really negative / critical. This is all IMHO and YMMV.Amex Spg, can't thank you enough for taking the hours upon hours to put together such a thorough report. I also read your 2011 report months ago. Whereas veterans may skip past it because they have already been down there and what you write for them is probably "been there, done that", I can absolutely tell you that for a rookie like myself who will be going down for the first time in November, your report is a gold mine. Answered a lot of questions and I like how it seems that you were completely honest with sharing your mistakes as well.
Thanks for doing the exact opposite of an idiot like Harold444 (who quickly worked his way to my ignore button) and providing valuable information to the forum. Probably will be a week before I have the time to finish reading your report, but the bottom line is that I have the report saved and it will be helpful in my future travel.
NOVEMBER can't get here quick enough!
LittleBigMan
06-27-12, 02:35
Amex Spg, can't thank you enough for taking the hours upon hours to put together such a thorough report. I also read your 2011 report months ago. Whereas veterans may skip past it because they have already been down there and what you write for them is probably "been there, done that", I can absolutely tell you that for a rookie like myself who will be going down for the first time in November, your report is a gold mine. Answered a lot of questions and I like how it seems that you were completely honest with sharing your mistakes as well.
Thanks for doing the exact opposite of an idiot like Harold444 (who quickly worked his way to my ignore button) and providing valuable information to the forum. Probably will be a week before I have the time to finish reading your report, but the bottom line is that I have the report saved and it will be helpful in my future travel.
NOVEMBER can't get here quick enough!Even for us old timers, it is refreshing good or bad to read these reports since we get bored and might want to travel the yellow brick road again. Never too old to travel down the road again.
LBM
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