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Probably nothing to report on Soi 6 that hasnt already been said. 1000 Baht incl bar fine for a surprisingly good blow job and a nice shag.Not bad.
Did they ask for the money upfront?
Just for info, that is is price you should be paying. I have always paid that. But on my last trip, several of the Soi 6 bars were asking 1300. Plus, they bar lady wanted the money upfront. One told me 1500??
I did not stay at these places and found the 1000k.
Day 5.
I woke up and to my surprise, the world was still intact; those fucking prophets. Oh but maybe, it was meant for the Pacific Time Zone. Better keep my fingers crossed.
At this point, I'm in the burnout stage, but still alive and kicking. Ended up at Queen in L / K Metro. Pulled a real hottie out of there. My understanding is that the owner of Queen is the same as Iron; that would explain the hottie factor. Vic was always sucking hind tit when it came to picking and choosing. The three of us headed to Iron, where he found one of his liking.
Day 6.
The only real excitement was getting a foot massage at The Best; no happy ending dammit! We made our loop through Bamboo and Walking Street Disco. It was Sunday and the crowd was down a bit. I went back to Queen to get the hottie and met up with Vic at home base later in the evening for a quiet night.
Day 7 / Christmas Eve.
One of the clubs had a Christmas party where it was all you could drink was only 895 baht. An Irishman and an American Sailor were quite happy! Hell, we were in there for 6-7 hours. We ran the place out of Jagerbombs, was damn close to drinking up their entire supply of vodka, and they basically told us that we had enough; but we felt differently about that. So we started drinking tequila and rum. And without a stumble, we walked out of there proudly knowing that we got our money's worth!
Later that night, we were coming back from Queen, and we decided to take a Baht Bus around the loop and back to Walking Street. Well neither of us were paying attention and we did not notice that the bus continued on Second Road and never made the loop around. After about five minutes, we were in nowhere land. No clubs, no bars, not a damn thing in sight. So I stopped the bus and asked the driver, WTF? I guess he was off duty and didn't realized we were still in the back. We started walking back on the darken streets and eventually found two motorcycle dudes. Traffic was horrible on Beach Road and it was quite the adventure getting back zipping through the traffic.
Some of the clubs, like Queen for example, doubled the barfines on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day; those bastards!
Day 8 / Christmas.
The town was packed with tourists and a few mongers. We headed to Bamboo, but not a lot of cuties in sight. Vic grabs a table, so we sit down for a bit. Two girls came walking by and Vic stopped them and asked if they wanted a drink. Well the one that sat next to me looked like she was seven months pregnant. I asked her when the baby was coming and she replied,"What baby?" We were off to a very bad start; we left after a really quick drink!
The Great Escape!
We went into Walking Street Disco and walked by three good looking girls, one dancing, and the other two were not. The one dancing grabs my hand as I was walking by, so I would dance with her. I bought a round and we danced more. She was a blast, but her friends seemed boring, and Vic felt the same. So we took her with us to find Vic a playmate for the evening. We stopped at one of the open bars and she about fell off the barstool twice. Then on to Babydolls, where she about past out. Whatever energy she had before, was long gone.
We were headed back towards Walking Street Disco and this is where I told Vic to follow my lead. I said that we should go back in the disco to see if her friends were still there. So she is walking and stumbling ahead of us and trying to call them on her phone. I turned to Vic, and said,"GO!" We ran like the wind! We ran into a cluster of open air bars and went to the one that was furthest from Walking Street. That is where I met Chunky. This girl was so much fun and she had the best attitude of all the girls I had thus far, but she was a bit chunky in the gut area. Fuck it! Overlook the gut! I barfined her. She was an absolute blast in the loom.
Day 9 / Last Day.
Got a great neck and shoulders massage, and while the girl was doing that, Mama came over and massaged my feet for 20 minutes. She really appreciated my steady business. Later in the evening, I was making my rounds and saying my goodbyes. Stopped in Champion to see Mamasan Sue and there was a stunner on stage. Fuck it, I barfined her. She would by my trophy fuck of the trip. I did not see Mamasan the the entire trip, because she wasn't working at Spankys anymore. Sue told us that she was at a new club called Private Dancer. Thus, we were off to see her. And later in the loom, the trophy fuck turned out to be a lame fuck; should have known better!
Final Thoughts.
It was high season and the place was packed! For those of you that frequent the Coconut Bar, the competition was fierce between the ladies; there was a butt load of them. I actually saw some real cuties up and down beach road this trip. But when the vender stalls went up, the girls disappeared! And I think the stalls stayed up until after the 1st, because I left on the 27th and they were still up.
In the pharmacies, they were selling the Oral Gem Kamagra 100 mg at a decent price. I tried it a few times, and it helped my old ass out on each occasion.
As much as I love the place, it is getting harder and longer to recover from the two trips every year. But about a month from now, I will have forgotten about the recovery period and book a flight for the summer.
Even though some of my favorite girls were not around, it was quite easy to establish new favorites; the place is busting with honeys of all shapes and sizes. I've always found the place safe and never had any issues walking / stumbling around in the LOS over the past 35 years. Yes, it is getting more expensive, but so is the cost of living in general. In our hobby, it is still one of the best bargains this world has to offer; IMHO!
RedMercury
01-10-13, 06:33
These are from Day 1!
These are the chicks that we picked up from the iBar! My skills with the camera seem to be getting better!
- I'm in LOS / Patts 9 Jan. 6 Feb. Almost all the FLs (BR, Insomnia, WS) I'm meeting want high season pricing / premium (ST B 1, 000+, LT B 2, 000+) and the 4 FLs I've had so far insisted on only ST (I prefer LT so I can wake up to a morning delight).
- Not too crowded with tourists. Of course lots of Russians, but only a few Indians, Chinese tour groups.
- Coconut Bar seems to be fully open for business (no sidewalk tents / vendors / stands) , unfortunately slim pickings; hoping some college students come to town soon to earn some P4P money.
- Been enjoying most of the new GoGos: Ginza, Sugar, Mandarin. Will scope out the "new" places I haven't been to such as Action Street, Le Carre Blanc (sp?) lounge, Soi 6 Nightwish BeerBar, etc. In late Feb I'll post my Trip Report.
- I'll be mostly in Patts with 1. 2 nights in BKK. If you want to meet for a drink, PM me.
I don't think its a good idea to put their faces either. The only reason I do it is cause I haven't figured out how to blurr them yet. I suppose its time to learn.
At least you have the courage of putting faces to the bodies. But do you thinks it not a safety issue for yourself. Do you plan on never going back. LOL.
Also don't go to Soi 6 hella early like I did. And it was kinda dead. But I did find one that was acceptable and walked inside her bar. She was darker skinned but had a nice ass and nice tits and she was stroking my junk through my shorts and I was ready to bust my first load. PRICE was 1000 baht ST and 250 for the room.On Soi 6 the going rate for a short time session in one of the onsite rooms is 700 to the girl and 300 to the bar. Recent reports have the girls trying to raise their price to 1000 baht. Don't want to start a flame war over prices paid, so I'll just say that in my view the average Soi 6 girl doesn't rate that tariff. That said, if a girl goes the extra mile in the room and I have a good session I will tip her 100 or 200 baht.
Bunky
The only reason I do it is cause I haven't figured out how to blurr them yet. I suppose its time to learn.PSA brought to you by the letters E and Z.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLx9ta1Cdsg
Orange Crust
01-11-13, 17:24
The one thing that I like about thai women they are very warm and very helpful, from the time she came inside the room, from removing my socks, to fixing a drink to, she was all over it. The best customer service that you can ever get!I may have trust issues but I would never let a lady I just met mix me a drink in my room. It's a nice gesture but you could easily had your drink spiked. It sounds weird but she would have to earn that privilege from me by waking up beside me a couple times till I know she isn't a thief. Way too many druggings with girls leaving fake ID at the front desk. Just don't put your guard down because as soon as you do, you're going to be posting a warning story here for all of us.
Wolvenvacht
01-11-13, 19:07
i may have trust issues but i would never let a lady i just met mix me a drink in my room. it's a nice gesture but you could easily had your drink spiked. it sounds weird but she would have to earn that privilege from me by waking up beside me a couple times till i know she isn't a thief. way too many druggings with girls leaving fake id at the front desk. just don't put your guard down because as soon as you do, you're going to be posting a warning story here for all of us.those who expect to be robbed, drugged, raped, beaten up, ... are likely to attract exactly the people who will serve them as expected.
Crocodilexp
01-11-13, 19:14
I may have trust issues but I would never let a lady I just met mix me a drink in my room. It's a nice gesture but you could easily had your drink spiked.Sound advice. It might sound paranoid, but I was drugged and robbed once by a Thai girl, and I thought it could never happen to me (expat, speaking decent Thai, here for a few years, a non-drinker). Apparently, she put something on a snack from 7-11, rather than a drink, quite a pro. Wasn't even a bargirl / freelancer, but seemingly a good girl (pick up from KSR, went for dancing and dinner with a friend then ended up at my place).
GoldDigger
01-11-13, 19:31
Just came back from Pat. Met 2 french guys robbed by girls they met on beachroad close to the shopping mall. Careful!
GoldDigger
01-11-13, 19:34
Just came back from Pat where I met two french guys beeing robbed by girls they met on beachroad close to the shopping mall. Met them at 2 am and went to hotel where they did drink together. Next morning headache, not remembering anything and without cellphones and money. Careful
I may have trust issues but I would never let a lady I just met mix me a drink in my room. It's a nice gesture but you could easily had your drink spiked. It sounds weird but she would have to earn that privilege from me by waking up beside me a couple times till I know she isn't a thief. Way too many druggings with girls leaving fake ID at the front desk. Just don't put your guard down because as soon as you do, you're going to be posting a warning story here for all of us.I agree with you. Unless I really know her, I hide my shit very well in the room and don't much take my eye off them.
I don't wear any jewelry and just keep cash only in my pocket. If I take her back to the room for the night, I put the cash and phone in the safe.
Once we hit the sack, there is nothing they can take. But it is possible I might wake up without a kidney or liver some morning.
Orange Crust
01-11-13, 19:44
those who expect to be robbed, drugged, raped, beaten up, . are likely to attract exactly the people who will serve them as expected.yeah, i know but don't go into it blind stupid.
remember these poor fellows:
http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2012/05/13/three-bangladeshi-rotarians-drugged-by-pattaya-hooker-one-dead-two-in-coma/
khun maree. 31 was arrested
http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/55201/suspect-drugging-robbery-case-bangladesh-rotarians-caught-pattaya-police/
sadly, she has a history of doing this, see this 2007 article, scary she's been doing this for at least 4 years. how many victims?
http://teakdoor.com/197250-post1.html
Wolvenvacht
01-11-13, 20:02
Unless I really know her, I hide my shit very well in the room and don't much take my eye off them.Then it is of no use to hide it in the first place.
That is like the "Watch out for pick-pockets" sign on the street. The Police actually had to remove the sign because almost everyone who saw that sign touched their money as by reflex to check it was not (yet) stolen. Trained pick-pockets thus knew exactly where you had put your money and it was too easy for them to lift it from you.
Don't hide your money and valuables: keep'them in the safe and enjoy the sex without worries.
Wolvenvacht
01-11-13, 20:11
Yeah, I know but don't go into it blind stupid.
Remember these poor fellows: (.)
Sadly, she has a history of doing this, see this 2007 article, scary she's been doing this for at least 4 years. How many victims? So, one bad apple among literally tens of thousands of sex-workers. You are more likely to be hit by a car when crossing the street (even more so when drunk) , being asked to pay a fine for an imaginary offence by a police officer or being swindled by a gem-dealer.
Orange Crust
01-11-13, 20:23
So, one bad apple among literally tens of thousands of sex-workers. You are more likely to be hit by a car when crossing the street (even more so when drunk) , being asked to pay a fine for an imaginary offence by a police officer or being swindled by a gem-dealer.I love your logic. Therefore you must also agree that you are more likely to have a bad apple drug you than winning the lottery. You only live once and it's sad if someone else's action shorten your life. I get it and your point. I once read " if you sleep with the dogs, you will catch flees."
Then it is of no use to hide it in the first place.
That is like the "Watch out for pick-pockets" sign on the street. The Police actually had to remove the sign because almost everyone who saw that sign touched their money as by reflex to check it was not (yet) stolen. Trained pick-pockets thus knew exactly where you had put your money and it was too easy for them to lift it from you.
Don't hide your money and valuables: keep'them in the safe and enjoy the sex without worries.Most of the time I put it in a plastic baggies, and shove it up my ass. They never look there.
. "Watch out for pick-pockets" sign on the street.I got my pocket picked on one of the Baht Buses, around 4 years ago.
I think it was a grandmother / granddaughter team. The older got on first and sat on one side of me while the younger one followed her and bumped into me while sitting. She offered an apology. I think when I was distracted by the bump, grandma slipped her hand into my pocket. They got off before me. I didn't realize the theft, until I got off to buy some food. I lost roughly 1000 baht and learned my lesson. Now I sit at the end of the bus, with my money pocket out of reach.
Most of the time I put it in a plastic baggies, and shove it up my ass. They never look there.
Luvpuss, have you read the book Papillion?
Forgot the picture. Doh!Nice pic! Always good to see an actual pic that isn't just a body part or a mutilated blur.
These are from Day 1!
These are the chicks that we picked up from the iBar! My skills with the camera seem to be getting better!Nice pics!
These are from Day 1!
These are the chicks that we picked up from the iBar! My skills with the camera seem to be getting better!What hotel?
Wolvenvacht
01-12-13, 10:14
Therefore you must also agree that you are more likely to have a bad apple drug you than winning the lottery.Of course. The odds to win the first prize in the EuroMillions lottery is less than randomly punching some numbers in your phone and getting the Chairman of the Chinese Communist Party on the line. It is a proven scientific fact that the human brain is not wired to clearly weigh risks and odds. It must give us some evolutionary advantage, but I fail to see it yet. Only casinos and lotteries seem to benefit.
those who expect to be robbed, drugged, raped, beaten up, . are likely to attract exactly the people who will serve them as expected.maybe they have a death wish.
those who take precautions not to be abused will repel evildoers.
Mr Mojo Rising
01-12-13, 16:05
I was a regular at Devil's Den Pattaya until there was a change in management a couple of years ago. I'm heading to Thailand in next couple of weeks after a very long time and would like to know how is the place now in terms of service and availability of girls? The friendliness and customer service oriented attitude of this place used to be second to none but I had heard some bad reports (not in this forum) after the "new management" took over. Is anyone aware of this? Your input will be greatly appreciated.
Cheers!
i've not been doing this for long, but i've had about one dozen beach road experiences ranging from good to outstanding. but tonight's experience goes in the negative column. walking from mikes shopping center toward the hilton, saw a nice little spinner wearing a lot of frilly pink standing along the sidewalk. i stopped and chatted for just a few minutes, she had a shy smile and seemed genuine, said her name was pim or peene, and of course interested in "go with you". but i kept walking. after 10 minutes or so i turned, went back, and asked her to "go with me". as we were walking and chatting (her english is poor) she said she needed to leave in the morning as she is keeping her sisters baby. then she volunteered her sister had died. then her mother had recently died in a motorcylce accident. i've been reading this forum for a few years and i know all of you are thinking what i was thinking; trouble. but we continued to my room, agreed on thb 500 short time, showered, she seemed shyly shocked about my size but seemed willing to try. she was all clenched-up but i used my fingers to get her started, then as is my style i started with some very slow teasing with just junior's head, finally inserted the head but i could see she was not enjoying this. i asked a few times if she was ok, no response other than a grimace, so i rolled over and yanked off the condom with some disgust, i figured i had now fully uncovered her play, she had no intention of fucking me, just wanted the money in return for as little as possible. i stood and started to dress, she grabbed her pussy, kept checking herself, then said i needed to take her to the doctor. crap. she asked for 1, 200 to pay for the doctor visit and was making no move to get dressed, maybe her plan was to wait me out until i agreed to more money. i told her i would pay her once we were out the door. after several long, agonizing minutes she finally dressed, we walked out, she was limping as if i'd taken an axe handle to her. at the hotel entrance i handed her 1, 000 and walked away in the other direction. i don't know if she was hurt or acting so i hoped 1, 000 would close out this experience in some equitable way. don't know. but the next time i get the "sick buffalo" story i'll pay attention to my instincts and shut it down.
I was a regular at Devil's Den Pattaya until there was a change in management a couple of years ago. I'm heading to Thailand in next couple of weeks after a very long time and would like to know how is the place now in terms of service and availability of girls? The friendliness and customer service oriented attitude of this place used to be second to none but I had heard some bad reports (not in this forum) after the "new management" took over. Is anyone aware of this? Your input will be greatly appreciated.
Cheers!Originally Posted by Devilspinkick [View Original Post]
Yeh, I was not so impressed with DD and the ladies there aren't much to look at in general. Had much more fun at the Go-Gos like Airport, Lolipop, Iron Club, etc. But I've only been there once so maybe I just picked the wrong two dames & of course YMMV. Not saying that I didn't have a decent time there, but it wasn't all that great either. Plan to stick to the Go-Gos & MPs when I return. Which will be tonight!
- DSK.
DD. Value for money = A Big No.
DD. Mechanical = A Big Yes.
DD. Alternatives = Find a place where two girls seem to be friends. Move in on them. Chat them up. Get some sparks going. Take them back to your hotel.
Mr Enternational
01-14-13, 08:20
You have definitely been had brother. When I went to the doctor in November with some kind of ear / nose / throat infection he checked me and gave me a 5 day supply of 3 different medicines for 450 baht. When my brother got the cotton part of a swab stuck in his hear I paid 100 baht to have it flushed out. On the spot HIV test I paid 300 baht. And for my yearly check up with I don't know how many tests run (I know there are 3 pages worth at least) I pay 3000 baht. We live and learn.
BambiJacobson
01-14-13, 23:14
Sad news today. It looks like a fellow compatriot took his own life in Pats. http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/70184/danish-resident-falls-23rd-balcony-jomtien-condominium/
Something more seasoned visitors can perhaps enlighten me on is the drugs angle this article takes. In our national news there is no mention of drugs yet but its like a foregone conclusion in PO. Is this because its pretty much a fact that the poor bloke was high as a kite or is this just something Thai police always use as an excuse when it comes to farangs involved in crimes or accidents?
Last time I was in Pattaya I read that a new Tuk. Com was opening soon. I haven't heard or read anything about it since. Anybody have any news on this subject?
Thanks a million.
Mr Enternational
01-15-13, 06:04
Last time I was in Pattaya I read that a new Tuk. Com was opening soon. I haven't heard or read anything about it since. Anybody have any news on this subject?.I don't know anything about that. I seriously doubt it since they have been putting new floors in the current one.
Sad news today. It looks like a fellow compatriot took his own life in Pats.
http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/70184/danish-resident-falls-23rd-balcony-jomtien-condominium/
Something more seasoned visitors can perhaps enlighten me on is the drugs angle this article takes. In our national news there is no mention of drugs yet but its like a foregone conclusion in PO. Is this because its pretty much a fact that the poor bloke was high as a kite or is this just something Thai police always use as an excuse when it comes to farangs involved in crimes or accidents?Unfortunately, this type of incident is not unusual in Pattaya or anywhere else in the world especially if drugs and alcohol were involved. Sometimes people under the influence think that they're invincible and take stupid risk with fatal consequences. Some people have demons inside them (depression) that others can't see.
The age of this young man reminded me of similar recent incidents on US college campuses where students have been injured or killed falling out of buildings.
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2019788865_apidfraternityfalls1stldwritethru.html
Sad news today. It looks like a fellow compatriot took his own life in Pats.
http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/70184/danish-resident-falls-23rd-balcony-jomtien-condominium/
Something more seasoned visitors can perhaps enlighten me on is the drugs angle this article takes. In our national news there is no mention of drugs yet but its like a foregone conclusion in PO. Is this because its pretty much a fact that the poor bloke was high as a kite or is this just something Thai police always use as an excuse when it comes to farangs involved in crimes or accidents?Happens almost every week in Pattaya, it's almost not news anymore. Could be because of drugs (voluntary or involuntary) , business deals gone bad, poor relationship with GF or wife or just plain craziness. The only thing different about this story is the man's age. Most of the people in these type of stories are lot older than 22. Quite a shame.
I heard a slight commotion in my bldg a few weeks ago and discovered later that a falang had returned to Pattaya to the room he was paying for. Inside the room his GF was shacked up with her Thai BF. This European guy was relatively and wisely calm though, he took his stuff out of the apartment and left without causing too much of a scene or even a fight. He could have made the news with a balcony jump or a push but he saw the light and decided to live to punt another day.
Are Pattaya and Angeles City in the Philippines much the same?
I was a regular at Devil's Den Pattaya until there was a change in management a couple of years ago.My Buddy just had an outcall from DD a few days ago. He was overall satisfied with the service. Buddy told me:
- Lady got an "A" for effort though overall somewhat mechanical (especially the BJ).
- She wanted to use her strap-on to penetrate him, but he refused to her disappointment.
- He booked the B 3, 500 outcall Lady without first having met / interviewing her, and as it turned out she hardly spoke any English which was a major drawback.
- The outcall is for 22:00. 06:00 but my Buddy asked her to leave around 08:00.
Buddy and me had been in the day before and met the manager Dave (?). Dave was very knowledgeable and patient in answering all of Buddy's questions. When Buddy picked up the Lady at 22:00 the next night (you can have the girl meet at 22:00 at your hotel room but Buddy opted to meet her at DD) the other manager (don't know his name, but both him & Dave (?) are half-Thai, half-Caucasian and Dave is a husky guy while his co-manager is a normal build) was also professional and easy to work with.
I don't do DD as I'm a cheap charlie but based on my observations DD is still a well-run place that emphasizes customer satisfaction.
Crocodilexp
01-17-13, 08:49
Are Pattaya and Angeles City in the Philippines much the same?Not at all. Pattaya mongering scene is at least 10x bigger (in terms of number of girls and venues). You could probably fit the whole AC scene into Pattaya soi 7 & 8. Pattaya has a wide range of venues (agogo bars, beer bars, discos, soi 6 brothels, walking street, beach road freelancers, soapies, regular massage with extras), while Angeles seems to have mostly agogo/beer bars. Angeles is a one-trick pony, a dirty and somewhat dangerous shithole.
Pattaya is a much larger city, has a beach and tons more to do except monger. If you're not there for sex and drinking (or if you're on breaks between sex sessions), there's not much else to do.
In my view, the only advantage of Angeles is that Filipinas are more genuinely desperate to get out of the place than Thais (who'd prefer to stay home and have you send money) , so if you're over 50 you have a significantly higher chance of landing a genuine bargirl (or even regular low-class girl) girlfriend, up to and including having her move to your country. Even if you don't go that far, no matter how old or decrepit you are, you'll still be sought after in the Philippines, while in Thailand they might string you on, but they tend to have better options.
My Buddy just had an outcall from DD a few days ago. He was overall satisfied with the service. Buddy told me:
- Lady got an "A" for effort though overall somewhat mechanical (especially the BJ).
- She wanted to use her strap-on to penetrate him, but he refused to her disappointment.
- He booked the B 3, 500 outcall Lady without first having met / interviewing her, and as it turned out she hardly spoke any English which was a major drawback.
- The outcall is for 22:00. 06:00 but my Buddy asked her to leave around 08:00.
Buddy and me had been in the day before and met the manager Dave (?). Dave was very knowledgeable and patient in answering all of Buddy's questions. When Buddy picked up the Lady at 22:00 the next night (you can have the girl meet at 22:00 at your hotel room but Buddy opted to meet her at DD) the other manager (don't know his name, but both him & Dave (?) are half-Thai, half-Caucasian and Dave is a husky guy while his co-manager is a normal build) was also professional and easy to work with.
I don't do DD as I'm a cheap charlie but based on my observations DD is still a well-run place that emphasizes customer satisfaction.Unless you are a total novice, why would anyone book a girl for that price w / o even have met her first?
Whatever. It actually doesn't sound that great of a time to me. DD is big into shoving crap up your ass. Just sounds like a hemorrhoid or anal fissure maker to me. No thanks.
Has anyone visited one of these venues. I have seen 2, one above the Indian restaurant on beach road called Maharaja restaurant and the other on 2nd road. Are the dancers Indian or Thai and can one take them out. Or is it full of old bags
Member #4698
01-17-13, 16:12
Are Pattaya and Angeles City in the Philippines much the same?Yes and no. Yes they are both monger destinations of the first order. No they are very different in style, feel, and atmosphere. Yes the girls you find in both towns are hookers. No, Thai girls and Filipinas are very different in looks, performance, and attitudes.
1. AC is not any more dangerous than Pattaya if you stay on compass. Fields and Perimeter bars are great. There is no reason to wander far afield late at night.
2. Thai food is superior, but you can eat reasonably well in AC.
3 Although Pattaya has 10x more girls and bars, there are a ton of women in AC. They will not run short, ever. Supply exponentially exceeds demand. I have been to AC 3 times. I still have visited less than one third of the bars I eventually plan to visit. I have visited Pattaya 8 times and will never experience more than 15% of the bars in Pat.
4. Pattaya gets boring after a while too and who can stand the straight tourists clogging up Walking Street in high season. It has become a gawker's paradise freak show. AC is for mongers only. A strong selling point.
5. If you like Pattaya, you owe it to yourself to visit AC at least once and compare. If you like AC, you owe it to yourself to visit Pattaya at least once and compare. I like both towns. I highly recommend breaking up an Asian trip by spending time in both places. This is very easy and inexpensive to accomplish thanks to direct flights straight into Clark from BKK. The bottom line: Filipinas are very different than Thai girls. Both nationalities have their plus and minus points. A seasoned well-travelled punter will want to sample from both pools. Variety is the spice of life.
Paul Kausch
01-17-13, 19:19
5. If you like Pattaya, you owe it to yourself to visit AC at least once and compare. If you like AC, you owe it to yourself to visit Pattaya at least once and compare. I like both towns. I highly recommend breaking up an Asian trip by spending time in both places. This is very easy and inexpensive to accomplish thanks to direct flights straight into Clark from BKK. The bottom line: Filipinas are very different than Thai girls. Both nationalities have their plus and minus points. A seasoned well-travelled punter will want to sample from both pools. Variety is the spice of life.So how would you characterize the differences between Thai and Filipina ladies? Looks? Personality? Performance?
Angeles is a one-trick pony, a dirty and somewhat dangerous shithole.Why do you consider AC more dangerous than Pattaya?
Yes and no. Yes they are both monger destinations of the first order. No they are very different in style, feel, and atmosphere. Yes the girls you find in both towns are hookers. No, Thai girls and Filipinas are very different in looks, performance, and attitudes.What's the difference between Thai & AC girls in looks, performance & attitudes?
I've heard PI ladies are more passionate, busty, into LT & possessive, while TGs are prettier.
Walking Street in high season. It has become a gawker's paradise freak show. AC is for mongers only. A strong selling point.
If you like AC, you owe it to yourself to visit Pattaya at least once and compare. I like both towns. I highly recommend breaking up an Asian trip by spending time in both places.Agreed! What I do on most trips is split the time between the two countries, you only need several days in each town and then move on, keeps you stimulated with a far more intense experience overall. Over a two week period one can even spend a few days in Bangkok and Manila, can't wait for the next trip in just a few days. Doing this sounds expensive for the budget minded, however, it is easily doable on a moderate budget, I have developed the skills To travel at the minimal cost.
I tend to stay away from Walking streets, not one for crowds. AC also has GAWKER's st
FruitNinja
01-18-13, 01:50
Angeles is a one-trick pony, a dirty and somewhat dangerous shithole.Yes Angles is about the bar girl scene but why do you say dangerous? I just spent 5 days there, first time vist, and never felt in danger whatsoever. If you don't do stupid things and stay in the areas that sane people would stay you will be just fine. Would you walk Watts in LA? The closest thing to crime I saw were guys that were literally falling down drunk being helped out of the bars by multiple bar girls. I'm sure those sessions didn't end well. And that's the headline or report everyone will base their conclusions from. Not really fair.
Yes Angles is... ...but why do you say dangerous?... Walk up Perimeter at night alone and you would probably know.
Mr Enternational
01-18-13, 02:55
Yes Angles is about the bar girl scene but why do you say dangerous? I just spent 5 days there, first time vist, and never felt in danger whatsoever.AC is dangerous for who? I'm a black guy and I have never seen anything dangerous about AC, unless it dangerous from overdosing on pussy. If they love the white guys so much around there how'd it get to be so dangerous for them? I live in Pattaya and will walk all up and down Beach Road all night alone, no danger there either. I've been in the slums of India, Brazil, Colombia and I'm still missing the danger. Maybe I'm just real lucky, but not lucky enough to win the lottery.
FruitNinja
01-18-13, 03:29
AC is dangerous for who? I'm a black guy and I have never seen anything dangerous about AC, unless it dangerous from overdosing on pussy. If they love the white guys so much around there how'd it get to be so dangerous for them? I live in Pattaya and will walk all up and down Beach Road all night alone, no danger there either. I've been in the slums of India, Brazil, Colombia and I'm still missing the danger. Maybe I'm just real lucky, but not lucky enough to win the lottery.I don't see where this danger is.
Tiger 888, Walk on the south side of Chicago and you will feel the same danger. Go to Baltimore, DC, NYC, or the favelas in Rio or some areas in Meddelin, there are areas you would go to and there are areas one would wonder why you are going there. As I said I would never go to Watts.
Walk up Perimeter at night alone and you would probably know.I've walked all over including Perimeter at night alone. I usually travel by myself and I do just fine. Most people aren't dumb and they weight the risks vs rewards.
"They'll probably guess your estimate worth of everything on you" + "how much of a struggle you'll put up" = "Are you worth jacking or mugging?"
YG
Crocodilexp
01-18-13, 05:00
Yes Angles is about the bar girl scene but why do you say dangerous? I just spent 5 days there, first time vist, and never felt in danger whatsoever. If you don't do stupid things and stay in the areas that sane people would stay you will be just fine.
Most people go to Pattaya or Angeles specifically to do stupid things we tend not to do back home. Get drunk, drop their guard a bit, and most importantly, spend time with hookers (and be in close proximity to all the lowlife associated with them -- boyfriends/pimps, drug dealers, addicts and so on). The difference is, in Pattaya it usually takes a lot of effort to get into serious trouble, whereas in Angeles all it takes is venturing few hundred meters away from the small Fields Ave drag at the wrong time.
Of course, you're right, with a bit of awareness and some luck you could be just fine in Angeles, it's not a war zone.
I don't see where this danger is.
Tiger 888, Walk on the south side of Chicago and you will feel the same danger. Go to Baltimore, DC, NYC, or the favelas in Rio or some areas in Meddelin, there are areas you would go to and there are areas one would wonder why you are going there. As I said I would never go to Watts.Who cares about the US. We are in Asia. And the Phlippines are definitely one of the more dangerous countries. I'd rate Angeles less safe than Pattaya, Manila less safe than Bangkok and Hong Kong and Singapore more safe than everywhere else.
SailSingapore
01-18-13, 06:01
Who cares about the US. We are in Asia. And the Phlippines are definitely one of the more dangerous countries. I'd rate Angeles less safe than Pattaya, Manila less safe than Bangkok and Hong Kong and Singapore more safe than everywhere else.For sure bro : I stumble blind-drunk (at times) mongering in the wee hours in the Sillypore red-light Geylang district for years and I have NEVER EVER felt any fear.
Member #4698
01-18-13, 06:52
Crocodilexp, with alll due respect, I disagree with you. Most people go to Pat or AC to have a good time and to have a lot of sex with friendly bar girls. Sure a lot of alcohol is consumed. So what? There is nothing stupid in that. I think shagging a whole lot of women in a short amount of time is very healthy for ones psyche. It is true one can wonder all over Pattaya drunk late at night no problem. So I agree that Pattaya and BKK are both safer than AC, but punting in AC is definitely within reasonable 95% safety margins.
I have been punting in Asia a long, long time. I spend 100% of my time with the girls. I never come into social contact with BF's, pimps, or addicts. Your dark description of AC does not match my experience at all. The bars are 100% safe. Fields is 100% safe. Barhopping on Fields is 100% safe. The hotels are safe. The bar girls themselves are never a danger. The worst thing that will happen in AC is your girl will run out on the EWR after one shot. Lock your valuables up in the room safe. Take a trike if travelling late at night between Fields and Perimeter bar areas. By the way, the bar areas of Raymond and A Santos are safe as long as the bars are open. That's about all there is too it. Like anywhere in the world, if you go looking for trouble, I am sure you will find it. AC is no exception on that score.
Your statement that "with a bit of awareness and some luck you could be just fine in Angeles" is only part true. You don't need luck in order to be safe in AC. One just needs to exercise a little common sense. If something bad or physically threatening / dangerous happened to you personally in AC then tell us about it so we can understand what you are talking about. And let's take further discussion of AC safety or lack thereof over to the AC thread. I am pretty sure most board members over there will not agree with your position either. Let's find out.
Member #4698
01-18-13, 07:15
Who cares about the US. We are in Asia. And the Phlippines are definitely one of the more dangerous countries. I'd rate Angeles less safe than Pattaya, Manila less safe than Bangkok and Hong Kong and Singapore more safe than everywhere else.Well you may be in Asia now. Unfortunately I have one more month before my release from sexual prison.
I agree that the PI is a more dangerous country than LOS, HKG, and Singapore, but to understand the degree of danger, comparisons help. I think AC can become dangerous over time to expats living there who become known to the bad guys, but not to short stay punters hanging out on Fields or Perimeter if they have any minimum level of common sense.
Hey Tiger, how would you compare AC to CP in terms of violent crime against foreigners. Manila is obviously more dangerous than BKK, but MNL does not seem more dangerous than any large American city and many Central and South American cities like Mexico City and Sao Paulo are far more dangerous. I feel fairly comfortable walking around Ermite / Malate, but I stay alert of my surroundings at all times which is something that is not required in BKK or Singapore.
...Hey Tiger, how would you compare AC to CP in terms of violent crime against foreigners...I consider CP to be more dangerous than AC. Dongguan and Shenzhen are the most dangerous areas in China because of all the migrant workers and many of them with nothing to lose. Haven't heard of kidnappers who beat the shit out of you until you give them your ATM pin in AC. Their targets are mainly the Singaporeans and HK Chinese, as they are not used to more dangerous places. But we should probably get our focus back on Pattaya.
FruitNinja
01-18-13, 12:14
Who cares about the US. We are in Asia. And the Phlippines are definitely one of the more dangerous countries. I'd rate Angeles less safe than Pattaya, Manila less safe than Bangkok and Hong Kong and Singapore more safe than everywhere else.Thanks for reminding me we're in Asia. Almost forgot where I was.
The point I was trying to make is if you walk around like a lamb going to slaughter you're going to get slaughtered no matter where you are.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate
AC or Pats don't make the top 50.
And take a look at some of these.
http://chartsbin.com/view/1454
Philippines is a little more dangerous than the States.
But there's always the delicate little wall flowers that need to whine and worry about safety because they are walking around the world scared. I've been to Columbia many times. Their murder rate is 40 per 100K while the PI is 6. 4. Yes people get killed, mugged, and scammed.
Your world is a different word than the one I live in.
Have fun
I agree that the PI is a more dangerous country than LOS, HKG, and Singapore, but to understand the degree of danger, comparisons help. I think AC can become dangerous over time to expats living there who become known to the bad guys, but not to short stay punters hanging out on Fields or Perimeter if they have any minimum level of common sense.Why should expats be any less safe than short stay punters?
If both are using common sense in AC or Pattaya, both should be equally keeping themselves out of harms way.
Who cares about the US. We are in Asia. And the Phlippines are definitely one of the more dangerous countries. I'd rate Angeles less safe than Pattaya, Manila less safe than Bangkok and Hong Kong and Singapore more safe than everywhere else.Spot on. When newcomer friends ask, I tell them that unless you act like a total idiot, Bangkok and Pattaya (never mind Singapore, HK, etc.) are essentially 100% safe. But in Manila or Angeles you can do everything right and there's still a small but real chance that you might run into trouble.
How this, or anything else, compares to the USA, I don't know and I doubt if most people here care.
OsakaGin11
01-19-13, 17:01
Spot on. When newcomer friends ask, I tell them that unless you act like a total idiot, Bangkok and Pattaya (never mind Singapore, HK, etc.) are essentially 100% safe. But in Manila or Angeles you can do everything right and there's still a small but real chance that you might run into trouble.
How this, or anything else, compares to the USA, I don't know and I doubt if most people here care.What you say about the Philippines and in particular Manila and AC is true. While I have been to the P. I. Over 50 times in the past.
20 years, nothing personally misfortunate has ever happened to me, I do know several people who have been robbed, pickpocketed,
Mugged or scammed in some way.
Maybe I have been lucky or just fortuanate not to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, or perhaps I have taken some basic precautions like not getting blind drunk and wondering down some dark street in Milate or Ermita by myself late at night. Or I make sure that I never wear expensive jewellery out or carry large sums money on my person and keep all of my valuables locked in the hotel safe. Even though you are on holidays, you should make certain that 'pack' your common sense in your bag!
Why should expats be any less safe than short stay punters?
If both are using common sense in AC or Pattaya, both should be equally keeping themselves out of harms way.Because the longer you stay in a place the more you become known and the likeliness to get on someones radar for whatever reason increases.
Mr Enternational
01-20-13, 01:05
Because the longer you stay in a place the more you become known and the likeliness to get on someones radar for whatever reason increases.IMHO it is the exact opposite. The more that people see you they become familiar with you and will NOT jack you. It's the total strangers that are getting jacked around Pattaya, not the people like me and LBM who live there. Everyday it's some Russian vacationer who has their bag or necklace snatched.
http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/70878/hotel-security-prevents-russian-bag-snatch-north-pattaya/
http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/70581/pattaya-tourist-police-arrest-suspect-russian-necklace-snatch-case/
http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/70391/turkish-victim-central-pattaya-bag-snatch/
http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/70010/mobile-phone-snatch-suspect-caught-police-east-pattaya/
http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/69711/suspects-arrested-south-pattaya-russian-street-robbery-case/
Now granted every so often you will see an expat who took a lady boy home and got drugged as was the case a couple of weeks ago.
http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/69706/2-ladyboys-arrested-russian-drugging-robbery-case-sattahip/
This is the news from the last two weeks. There are 5 robberies against visitors (one of them even a Thai vacationer) and only 1 against a resident. And as I said, the only reason the resident was robbed is because he took lady boys home.
But in Manila or Angeles you can do everything right and there's still a small but real chance that you might run into trouble.Agree.
You can turn around after you grab cash at an ATM in Manila or AC and have a gun in your face. Not going to happen in BKK or Pattaya!
You can turn around after you grab cash at an ATM in Manila or AC and have a gun in your face. Not going to happen in BKK or Pattaya!In Pattaya they get you with a knife in your apartment.
No witnesses. Guy too old to fight back. PI crooks should take lessons.
http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/68261/german-murdered-jomtien-condominium/
Making my annual trip to Pattaya in early September, not sure if it's just luck, but have only had one day where is rained like a ***** for a couple hours. Wondered how the season is in the July timeframe?
BambiJacobson
01-22-13, 01:46
Making my annual trip to Pattaya in early September, not sure if it's just luck, but have only had one day where is rained like a ***** for a couple hours. Wondered how the season is in the July timeframe?Hi Nixonbd,
Did you go early September 2012 as well (8-15)? I did and I had this one evening where there was what I would describe as a big thunder storm. Meaning lots of lightning and lots of rain. Perhaps it lasted 3-6 hours.
From what I have learned from friends and people I have talked to in Patts and online weather in June and Juli is usually better then in September. Meaning that rain is less likely in July then in September.
September and October are the months where rain is most likely. Still I went and, even though it was intense, it only rained for 1 evening out of 7 so weather should not be an issue I guess.
According to the following site rain is pretty much double in September compared to July: http://thailandforvisitors.com/east/pattaya/practical-information/weather.php
Making my annual trip to Pattaya in early September, not sure if it's just luck, but have only had one day where is rained like a ***** for a couple hours. Wondered how the season is in the July timeframe?Sorry man. What kind of a question is that?
We can predict the weather for you in July? You want us to suggest what clothes you should wear also? Why don't you search it and check the numerous sites that give previous weather patterns for every city in the world.
In Pattaya they get you with a knife in your apartment.Still pretty rare, and even then it's almost always an inside job: someone you yourself let into your place, or somebody they know.
There are no reliable stats for crime in Pattaya (believe me, it's part of my job and I've looked) , though anecdotally it certainly seems that crime is on the upswing. But remember, Pattaya is now a huge place. It's soon to be the second biggest city in Thailand and still growing fast, and filled with more clueless tourists, expats, retirees etc than maybe the rest of the country combined. So all in all, per capita, it's probably not a particularly dangerous place, unless you're a total muppet. That can't be said of either Manila or AC.
Still pretty rare, and even then it's almost always an inside job: someone you yourself let into your place, or somebody they know.
There are no reliable stats for crime in Pattaya (believe me, it's part of my job and I've looked) , though anecdotally it certainly seems that crime is on the upswing. But remember, Pattaya is now a huge place. It's soon to be the second biggest city in Thailand and still growing fast, and filled with more clueless tourists, expats, retirees etc than maybe the rest of the country combined. So all in all, per capita, it's probably not a particularly dangerous place, unless you're a total muppet. That can't be said of either Manila or AC.AC is also full of "tourists, expats, retirees", though I can't comment on their relative "cluelessness" to those in Pattaya.
Perhaps they are more street smart out of necessity & in so doing make themselves as safe as those in Pattaya who don't take precautions & let their guard down, assuming themselves to be safe because they are in Thailand or Pattaya.
From what I've read of the bar area on Fields Avenue in AC, one would have to be at least a semi "total muppet" to run into trouble there. As a sex traveller in the PI or AC there would be no need to go anywhere else, except trips to & from the airport.
The following news report said the number of murders in AC was below the world, USA, and Thailand averages:
http://www.angelescity.com/index.php?newsID=297
A quick perusal through the pattayadailynews. Com would make you think manila was a playground. Guys falling off buildings on a daily basis, BG's doing same. Drugs, road accidents, drownings. Pattaya really seems to have it all according to the news reports.BTW I seem to recall reading quite a few incidents in the news re robbed, assaulted and murdered foreigners in Phuket.
i have been in pattaya a few days. it seems basic prices are 1, 000 short time. 2,000 long time for bar girls, gogo bar fine 600, sometimes 300 later, beer bar fine 300. freelancers on beach road 500 st. often more is asked, but these prices are fairly easy to get.
i may be unlucky, but two girls have refused to suck my cock without a condom. (and there is nothing obviously wrong with it.) have bbbj's become a speciality of soi 6 and [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)?
one of them (from a gogo bar) also tried to up the agreed price of 2k lt when at the point of penetration. in future i will write down the price before paying the bar fine, so there is no excuse for misunderstandings. but i do not know how to make it clear about the bbbj.
i have tried google translate but get very different results between single words and phrases and whole sentences. maybe 'i want a blow job without condom' is translating as 'i want work outside medicines in the wind'. in any case, there is no way of recording the spoken version to practice, and my accent would probably mangle it anyway.
i will try to get things clear with the mamasan before paying the bar fine in future. but any help with useful words and phrases would be appreciated. more generally, is there a guide to talking dirty in thai anywhere? maybe a language thread should be opened.
But any help with useful words and phrases would be appreciated. More generally, is there a guide to talking dirty in Thai anywhere? Maybe a language thread should be opened.Try this, Jimbo:
Sa_ mok mai\ sai / toong/
"Smoke" is Thai slang for suck cock and mai (high tone) sai (rising tone) toong (rising tone) means not wear condom.
A few years back I posted Daddy's Thai Language Phrase List.
Here it is again in PDF format.
Enjoy,
Daddy
I have tried Google translate but get very different results between single words and phrases and whole sentences. Maybe 'I want a blow job without condom' is translating as 'I want work outside medicines in the wind'. In any case, there is no way of recording the spoken version to practice, and my accent would probably mangle it anyway.Google Translate is pretty poor when it comes to Thai.
"Orm mai sai condom na" means "suck on it without a condom, O. K?"."Orm" rhymes with "warm".
But really Thai working girls ought to have enough basic English to understand this:
"Blowjob with no condom, O. K?".
But really Thai working girls ought to have enough basic English to understand this:"Blowjob with no condom, O. K?".As well as "smoking no condom" as they also use "smoking" to describe the BJ service
I will try to get things clear with the mamasan before paying the bar fine in future. But any help with useful words and phrases would be appreciated. More generally, is there a guide to talking dirty in Thai anywhere? Maybe a language thread should be opened.Thanks for the various replies. I have overcome my natural meanness to take out a subscription so I can download Daddy07's language guide.
The problem is not that the girls don't understand, but that they can pretend not to when convenient. They know they are in a good bargaining position once you have bought a couple of drinks, paid the bar fine, and its already after midnight.
I'm beginning to think that while gogo bars with cheap beer are OK for entertainment, its best to find a girl on Beach Road on the way back to the hotel.
GooberMonger
01-24-13, 19:17
Try this, Jimbo:
Sa_ mok mai\ sai / toong/
"Smoke" is Thai slang for suck cock and mai (high tone) sai (rising tone) toong (rising tone) means not wear condom.
A few years back I posted Daddy's Thai Language Phrase List.
Here it is again in PDF format.
Enjoy,
DaddyThanks a lot, I've been mongering around S. E. A. For about 10 years and English has always worked for me. I do speak, Thai and Khmer (K'mai) but have never had a girl use a condom who told me she "smoked"or ÿum yummed" LOL What has changed in prices and Thai girls have lost that loving feeling. Like the Vietnamese more and more, get it done and get out.
I'm beginning to think that while gogo bars with cheap beer are OK for entertainment, its best to find a girl on Beach Road on the way back to the hotel.Do you really think you can find similar looking girls on Beach Road as in the bars?
I am looking to.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1370206&viewfull=1#post1370206
And can not wait until March (when I am coming to Pattaya) in a hope that I can see (never mind do) one of those stunners! Of course you take a risk on the service, but at least you know the outside.
BTW. Thank you Pimpin Sam for your report. It is short, but one picture replaces thousands of words to me.
I may be unlucky, but two girls have refused to suck my cock without a condom. (And there is nothing obviously wrong with it.)Where did you find these girls?
Where did you find these girls?Both in gogo bars. One in Queens on LK Metro, call Lek, which isn't much help, and she isn't small.
The other I will not try to identify, since we were both drunk, and I'm not sure what happened. But things went from bad to worse once we established that there would be no BBBJ.
My mistake was to buy her too many drinks. She seemed OK in the bar, but once out into the fetid air of BR she could hardly walk.
BTW, I was here twenty years ago, and do not remember the girls drinking or smoking. Lady drinks were a thimble full of coke. Now most of them. Waitresses included. Want to get out of their heads on shots of what is supposed to be tequila.
As for Lek, its not a matter of the particular girl, but the MO. Modus operandi, how to part you from your money as quickly as possible. I went back last night and saw her working the magic on another sucker, who was physically the opposite of me, so IMO repulsive. Having noticed you eyeing her more than the other girls, she comes over, because. You naturally assume. She finds you so attractive. She then persuades you to do an early bar fine, promising anything you want. The lesson is do not do an early bar fine unless you get a very good deal in writing.
Last night I hung about until a bar closed and managed to meet a girl from it on BR without any fine. There were lots of alternatives around at half the price, but at least I was fairly sure I was getting a girl. And everything went well.
BTW2 Gogo girls are very quick to notice you eyeing them, and share information. Back at Queens last night the IMO second most attractive girl of the night before came to tell me how much she liked sucking cock. Lek must have advised her of the business opportunity.
[QUOTE=Yuri B; 1377700]Do you really think you can find similar looking girls on Beach Road as in the bars?
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1370206&viewfull=1#post1370206
There are lots of beautiful girls on Beach Road. Most of them are men, but what do you expect for 500 baht?
There are plenty of the Pimping Sam photo standard, and these are more likely to be girls. But beware. I once took a pleasant but ordinary looking girl back and the receptionist did not realise until she looked at the I'd card that she wasn't.
Could someone explain how to read the gender on ID cards?
Girls in gogo bars are generally more attractive than BR girls. But it can be entertaining to search.
Another problem is that BR can be empty at midnight if the police do a sweep. (Apparently they can fine the girls 100b for loitering). Last night I was there at 2. 30 and it was packed with attractive looking girls.
Do you really think you can find similar looking girls on Beach Road as in the bars?
I am looking to.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1370206&viewfull=1#post1370206
And can not wait until March (when I am coming to Pattaya) in a hope that I can see (never mind do) one of those stunners! Of course you take a risk on the service, but at least you know the outside.
BTW. Thank you Pimpin Sam for your report. It is short, but one picture replaces thousands of words to me.You may be in for some disappointments and poor service. But as long as they are good looking, it sounds like you will be happy.
Its your money.
Thanks for the various replies. I have overcome my natural meanness to take out a subscription so I can download Daddy07's language guide.
The problem is not that the girls don't understand, but that they can pretend not to when convenient. They know they are in a good bargaining position once you have bought a couple of drinks, paid the bar fine, and its already after midnight.
I'm beginning to think that while gogo bars with cheap beer are OK for entertainment, its best to find a girl on Beach Road on the way back to the hotel.Are you from India? JUST KIDDING!
I have hit 100's of these girls. Maybe 1000. Every girl knows,"blow job no condom". I think I have been refused maybe 2 times on BBBJ. But I remember one girl would do BBFS, but not BBBJ. Go figure.
As far a Beach Road. I have never had a girl not do BBBJ from Beach Road. Just make it clear though what you want. I always say what I want, then repeat it and the price just so everything is clear.
What time do the shifts at most gogos on Walking Street end?
What time do the shifts at most gogos on Walking Street end?Most of 'them close at 3 am. A few (such as What's Up) close at 4 am.
Null Avenger
01-26-13, 12:09
What time do the shifts at most gogos on Walking Street end?Highly variable: If they are having a slow night, they may let some or all of the girls go early. If the police are being more police-like they may close earlier to avoid headaches. Not to mention alot of the girls try to duck out early if they can.
Typically things start slowing down around 01:30 but most places are open till 02:00. From 02:00 to 04:00 you get a slow cascade of gogo's closing. Good time for people watching 02:00-04:00.
Hi Nixonbd,
Did you go early September 2012 as well (8-15)? I did and I had this one evening where there was what I would describe as a big thunder storm. Meaning lots of lightning and lots of rain. Perhaps it lasted 3-6 hours.
From what I have learned from friends and people I have talked to in Patts and online weather in June and Juli is usually better then in September. Meaning that rain is less likely in July then in September.
September and October are the months where rain is most likely. Still I went and, even though it was intense, it only rained for 1 evening out of 7 so weather should not be an issue I guess.
According to the following site rain is pretty much double in September compared to July:
http://thailandforvisitors.com/east/pattaya/practical-information/weather.phpYeah, I think that was the time-frame. Just curious, sometimes those historical weather sites don't tell the full story.
Param Ahmad
01-27-13, 08:30
If it were not for someone in this section or thread mentioning "Fields Avenue in AC" I probably would not have been able to figure out that AC stands for Angeles City in the Philippines. Even so, it required a Google search, since I didn't find it on the Abbreviations page of this web site. It seems we too often go overboard with abbreviations and acronyms.
(My uppercase AC in the title is being changed to lowercase by this web site's automatic editing software.)
Are you from India? JUST KIDDING!
I have hit 100's of these girls. Maybe 1000. Every girl knows,"blow job no condom". I think I have been refused maybe 2 times on BBBJ. But I remember one girl would do BBFS, but not BBBJ. Go figure.
As far a Beach Road. I have never had a girl not do BBBJ from Beach Road. Just make it clear though what you want. I always say what I want, then repeat it and the price just so everything is clear.What would you say is a fair price for a BBBJ from a freelancer on Beach Road and do you start negotiating lower?
If it were not for someone in this section or thread mentioning "Fields Avenue in AC" I probably would not have been able to figure out that AC stands for Angeles City in the Philippines. Even so, it required a Google search, since I didn't find it on the Abbreviations page of this web site. It seems we too often go overboard with abbreviations and acronyms.
(My uppercase AC in the title is being changed to lowercase by this web site's automatic editing software.) Bravo! So you did what most of us hope many would do. You took 15 seconds of your valuable time, and searched it.
Many of us who post often are not going to take the time every post to spell every word or abbreviation related to this hobby.
If a search is made and no info obtained, I am sure guys on here will assist you.
What time do the shifts at most gogos on Walking Street end?HAHA. Just had to laugh. Its a legit question, just the word "shift". Are you a cop or just punch a clock?
Slackerslacker
01-28-13, 03:52
HAHA. Just had to laugh. Its a legit question, just the word "shift". Are you a cop or just punch a clock?I've seen plenty of bars in Pattaya where the girls have to check in by the punch clock method.
GooberMonger
01-28-13, 19:03
Both in gogo bars. One in Queens on LK Metro, call Lek, which isn't much help, and she isn't small.
The other I will not try to identify, since we were both drunk, and I'm not sure what happened. But things went from bad to worse once we established that there would be no BBBJ.
My mistake was to buy her too many drinks. She seemed OK in the bar, but once out into the fetid air of BR she could hardly walk.
BTW, I was here twenty years ago, and do not remember the girls drinking or smoking. Lady drinks were a thimble full of coke. Now most of them. Waitresses included. Want to get out of their heads on shots of what is supposed to be tequila.
As for Lek, its not a matter of the particular girl, but the MO. Modus operandi, how to part you from your money as quickly as possible. I went back last night and saw her working the magic on another sucker, who was physically the opposite of me, so IMO repulsive. Having noticed you eyeing her more than the other girls, she comes over, because. You naturally assume. She finds you so attractive. She then persuades you to do an early bar fine, promising anything you want. The lesson is do not do an early bar fine unless you get a very good deal in writing.
Last night I hung about until a bar closed and managed to meet a girl from it on BR without any fine. There were lots of alternatives around at half the price, but at least I was fairly sure I was getting a girl. And everything went well.
BTW2 Gogo girls are very quick to notice you eyeing them, and share information. Back at Queens last night the IMO second most attractive girl of the night before came to tell me how much she liked sucking cock. Lek must have advised her of the business opportunity.Jimbo, that is funny I did the same thing in "I Love NY" went to Pattaya for a month for my birthday last year. I'm partying with these 3 real cute 20-21 year old girls; we're bonding back the drinks, the girls are doing Tequila shots and I'm licking the salt off their tits etc.
The end of the night comes around about 3am I think I'm going home with these 3 cuties. I get my bar bill 6000 Baht, wow. No problem it's my birthday walk out the door with the girls and turn around they're gone. Fuckin bitches made a killing on lady drinks from me, then they all took off to home to see their Thai boyfriends.
Next night I go back and they want to do it again, no way so I pick one and we have a few drinks, I bar fine her 1000 Baht, she wanted 2000. I said well we'll see if you earn it. I get her back to my Condo and she's pretty buzzed, me too. So she hits my bar for another couple shots, Ok. Then she's really buzzed I start taking her gear off and she says stop I'm too drunk. What? No way so I tell her lay down we'll have a sleep and I'll treat you like the dirty **** you are in the morning.
She lays down for a bit then gets up goes to the bathroom pukes, comes out and says,"I got to go." What? So I'm doing my best to make her stay, but she calls her Thai boyfriend to come and get her. I'm pissed, she says,"No problem I don't have to pay her anything." I bar fined you oh, you get it back tomorrow.
I'm still arguing with her the her BF shows up and I kicked her in the ass and sent her on her way.
I don't remember Pattaya GoGo girls being like this 7 years ago when I lived there, sent this monger back to old school.
But I did have a good time a lot of the young girls don't like sucking dick, hhhhmmm. I think about how much fun I could have had in Cambodia with the amount of money I spent in Pattaya.
Thai girls have lost that loving feeling that use to make them so famous; they're much like the Vietnamese now, but don't suck cock like a VN girl. It's all about money it's all business to them now. At least that's what I found in Pattaya.
Bangkok different story had a great 3 some my last time there. Little strange one girl like to only suck and the other I banged her brains out. Then I asked the other one if she wanted some cock too? She said,"No, my cock was too big." Well that made me want to fuck her even more, hell I ain't that big. I finally did get in her and she said it hurt don't use it all. Well that kind of talk is going to make me come for sure. Anyway off topic here, but it was something I wanted to share.
See ya in BKK in March, Soi Cowboy, until then I'm roughing it out in PP, LOL
Blk Big Bootyluv
01-29-13, 04:49
I'm going to have to 2nd that. My first time in AC, I was by myself and got drunk bar hopping. I walked the main drag, where the hundreds of bars are till they ended. I turned down a dark road and double back. The only thing that attacked me was little bitty pinoya who helped me find my hotel and gave me the best BJ I've had since I've been in the mongering game, $700P.
She tucked me in and the moment I was falling asleep and I watched her creep out the door and when it closed I was out like a baby. I did a survey of all my stuff and
Money and every thing else was there and accounted for. So for danger, I think we foreigners, find ourself in trouble when we don't follow our natural instincts.
Peace,
BBL
AC is dangerous for who? I'm a black guy and I have never seen anything dangerous about AC, unless it dangerous from overdosing on pussy. If they love the white guys so much around there how'd it get to be so dangerous for them? I live in Pattaya and will walk all up and down Beach Road all night alone, no danger there either. I've been in the slums of India, Brazil, Colombia and I'm still missing the danger. Maybe I'm just real lucky, but not lucky enough to win the lottery.
I've been a regular visitor to Pattaya for a while. Haven't reported because Pattaya is what it is. Not hard to navigate at all, more info than you could ever want already out there, etc. But ran into a new roadblock and have no idea how to get over it.
Saw a guy in my hotel a few days ago having problems trying to bring a girl up that he met at a beer bar. She was 19, hotel staff insisted they have to be 20 or older to bring into your room. Wouldn't even accept a bribe.
Well wouldn't you know that I met a regular girl working at the mall who is 18 soon after. Saw her identification card, age is legit. Above the age of consent in Thailand, not a bar girl, but I don't expect any hotel to believe me when I tell them she isn't. Does anyone know anything about this 20+ rule or how / if I can somehow get around it?
Thanks
Hi guys, I am going to be in Pattaya for a few days and wondering if there are any good dentist in Pattaya? I need a good dentist to install a crown. Would appreciate any contact information so I can call ahead and make an appointment. Thanks
Wolvenvacht
01-29-13, 08:09
Well wouldn't you know that I met a regular girl working at the mall who is 18 soon after. Saw her identification card, age is legit. Above the age of consent in Thailand, not a bar girl, but I don't expect any hotel to believe me when I tell them she isn't. Does anyone know anything about this 20+ rule or how / if I can somehow get around it?
ThanksIt is for the hotel to set its own rules, but I think most hotels --for their own safety-- like to err on the side of caution. Of course she can always rent a room in her own name. Her mistake if she takes a wrong turn in the hotel and ends up in your room.
But what do you mean with "who is 18 soon after"? Isn't she 18 yet? In that case I would be very very cautious.
AussieDoug
01-29-13, 10:33
I've been a regular visitor to Pattaya for a while. Haven't reported because Pattaya is what it is. Not hard to navigate at all, more info than you could ever want already out there, etc. But ran into a new roadblock and have no idea how to get over it.
Saw a guy in my hotel a few days ago having problems trying to bring a girl up that he met at a beer bar. She was 19, hotel staff insisted they have to be 20 or older to bring into your room. Wouldn't even accept a bribe.
Well wouldn't you know that I met a regular girl working at the mall who is 18 soon after. Saw her identification card, age is legit. Above the age of consent in Thailand, not a bar girl, but I don't expect any hotel to believe me when I tell them she isn't. Does anyone know anything about this 20+ rule or how / if I can somehow get around it?
ThanksThey are supposed to be 20 to work in a bar, so the hotel probably thought that she did, so asked for I'd and refused her entry. If you were quick enough to offer she no work bar, then that's OK, it's all supposed to stop younger girls getting on the game, fat chance of stopping them. Then dependant on where you come from you should follow any extra territorial laws of your county, the USA frowns on less than 18, my country says 16 years, other countries may say less.
Fredje1961
01-29-13, 10:54
But what do you mean with "who is 18 soon after"Soon after the episode with the 19yo girl in his hotel, Fall Guy met a regular girl (18years old)
I've been a regular visitor to Pattaya for a while. Haven't reported because Pattaya is what it is. Not hard to navigate at all, more info than you could ever want already out there, etc. But ran into a new roadblock and have no idea how to get over it.
Saw a guy in my hotel a few days ago having problems trying to bring a girl up that he met at a beer bar. She was 19, hotel staff insisted they have to be 20 or older to bring into your room. Wouldn't even accept a bribe.
Well wouldn't you know that I met a regular girl working at the mall who is 18 soon after. Saw her identification card, age is legit. Above the age of consent in Thailand, not a bar girl, but I don't expect any hotel to believe me when I tell them she isn't. Does anyone know anything about this 20+ rule or how / if I can somehow get around it?
ThanksNever heard that. Sounds like a hotel policy to me. Stay at a different hotel.
Got to be 20 to work in a bar. Watch the girls 18 and 19 disappear if / when cops show up on a Soi looking for tea money. Definitely happens. Don't know about hotels but makes sense that they'd go along with the local policy. That's be weird going around to hotels in advance asking "can I bring a young girl in here?" Another strange feature of Thailand where porno sites are censored but you can walk outside and find a foursome with a ladyboy and a girl while dressed as santaclause in about 5 minutes if you have a couple thousand baht.
Check them out in the annual bed race (?) video. I never knew about this, could be fun but should probably be held during daylight hours for better footage. Should also enforce the rules so the entries don't all look like large boxcar racers.
http://www.aol.com/video/bedmobiles-line-up-for-annual-race/517259292/
FoxesHunter
01-29-13, 23:38
Hi friends, I don't know where I will go precisely. In your opinion what is better between Pattaya and Bangkok?
What differences? Is Bangkok cheap like Pattaya to fuck? Thanks for your news.
Hi friends, I don't know where I will go precisely. In your opinion what is better between Pattaya and Bangkok?
What differences? Is Bangkok cheap like Pattaya to fuck? Thanks for your news.There is nothing to answer your question that hasn't been written here. Just take your time to read to your heart's content. I am just a bit surprised about your senior status in combination of such a question.
Wolvenvacht
01-30-13, 01:11
Hi friends, I don't know where I will go precisely. In your opinion what is better between Pattaya and Bangkok?
What differences? Is Bangkok cheap like Pattaya to fuck? Thanks for your news.Bangkok and Pattaya are both cheap (compared to Europe) , with Pattaya cheaper, but with higher quality in Bangkok. Of course "quality" is very subjective so YMMV.
Not sure if it is better to change $2000 US in Bangkok or Pattaya for better exchange rate or are both places about the same.
Thanks
From what I have made out so far by reading is.
Soi 6 300 room+700 FS +100 Tip.
Girls from gogo bars ST 1500, LT 3000.
WS freelaners ST 500-700 LT 1000-1500.
Girls from beer bars 1000-1500 ST 1500-2000 LT.
Are these rates pretty much the ballpark?
Not sure if it is better to change $2000 US in Bangkok or Pattaya for better exchange rate or are both places about the same.
ThanksThis question is specific enough to answer. The best exchange rate in Thailand is to be had here:
http://www.superrichthailand.com/editor/rate.html
Maybe someone in Pattaya can say if there is something close to be had there.
This question is specific enough to answer. The best exchange rate in Thailand is to be had here:
http://www.superrichthailand.com/editor/rate.html
Maybe someone in Pattaya can say if there is something close to be had there.Thanks Tiger for the quick reply and also for the help on the dentist.
FoxesHunter
01-30-13, 08:19
There is nothing to answer your question that hasn't been written here. Just take your time to read to your heart's content. I am just a bit surprised about your senior status in combination of such a question.You are right but but obviously I was referring to things that were not written here such as about hunting to find a girl to fuck. I know Indonesia and you have to hunt to fuck but you can get everything. In Bangkog is there any hunting to find some regular girls? .
Hi friends, I don't know where I will go precisely. In your opinion what is better between Pattaya and Bangkok?
What differences? Is Bangkok cheap like Pattaya to fuck? Thanks for your news.
...I was referring to things that were not written here such as about hunting to find a girl to fuck. I know Indonesia and you have to hunt to fuck but you can get everything. In Bangkog is there any hunting to find some regular girls? .My reading skills don't go far enough to recognize your question about regular girls when you ask for cheap prices.
You were asking for cheaper prices to fuck (that is well covered) , now it is how to hunt regular girls in Bangkok (you will also find something about that in the BKK thread). If you ask specific questions you will get clear answers. But don't expect anyone to write a novel on Thailand here. Try to read Stickman for that.
Mr Enternational
01-30-13, 09:36
Not sure if it is better to change $2000 US in Bangkok or Pattaya for better exchange rate or are both places about the same.
ThanksThe best rate in Pattaya will be at the Gold shop on Soi Rungland off Pattaya Tai (South Pattaya Road.) Going toward Sukhumvit on Pattaya Tai right after you pass Third Road it will be the next street on the right and you will see it about 30m on the left. Dark glass and new tiles on the front patio.
The best rate in Pattaya will be at the Gold shop on Soi Rungland off Pattaya Tai (South Pattaya Road.) Going toward Sukhumvit on Pattaya Tai right after you pass Third Road it will be the next street on the right and you will see it about 30m on the left. Dark glass and new tiles on the front patio.How do they compare with the real time rates in my link?
Fuckin bitches made a killing on lady drinks from me, then they all took off to home to see their Thai boyfriends.
I don't remember Pattaya GoGo girls being like this 7 years ago when I lived there, sent this monger back to old school.
But I did have a good time a lot of the young girls don't like sucking dick, hhhhmmm. I think about how much fun I could have had in Cambodia with the amount of money I spent in Pattaya.
See ya in BKK in March, Soi Cowboy, until then I'm roughing it out in PP, LOLIf you buy too many lady drinks the girl is not so interested in the money for sex, and probably not capable anyway.
Could you enlarge on the advantages of PP? I suppose you could just say read the Cambodia section, but it would be useful to have a summary.
From what I have made out so far by reading is.
Soi 6 300 room+700 FS +100 Tip.
Girls from gogo bars ST 1500, LT 3000.
WS freelaners ST 500-700 LT 1000-1500.
Girls from beer bars 1000-1500 ST 1500-2000 LT.
Are these rates pretty much the ballpark?I think you are right on. That is what I have been paying.
Be aware on Soi 6. I had a couple of places last time asking for 1200 upfront. I left and went next door.
From what I have made out so far by reading is.
Soi 6 300 room+700 FS +100 Tip.
Girls from gogo bars ST 1500, LT 3000.
WS freelaners ST 500-700 LT 1000-1500.
Girls from beer bars 1000-1500 ST 1500-2000 LT.
Are these rates pretty much the ballpark?I have so far never paid more than 2000 LT at gogos (beer bars 1000 LT) and almost always got good service.
Nishu617.
Thanks. Thats pretty much what I zeroed in on as well.
CheersGuys, I guess you are talking about Jasmine Suites in BBK right next to Soi Cowboy. Do any of their rooms have a balcony and mirrors in the bedroom?
Mr Enternational
01-30-13, 17:08
How do they compare with the real time rates in my link?I don't know. But unless you are exchanging thousands of dollars / euro at a time the difference is negligible. There is no sense in searching all over town just to save $3.
http://bankexchangerates.daytodaydata.net/default.aspx
Member #4698
01-30-13, 18:52
I have so far never paid more than 2000 LT at gogos and almost always got good service.Here is a sticker shock for you. What's Up Go Go. 1am: barfine 1000bt + 2000bt ST or 4000bt LT. Is it worth it? My opinion: sometimes, but that is a very subjective answer. What's Up Go Go does have more than its fair share of lookers. I mean really attractive girls. There is no question about that. It used to be my favorite Go Go in Pattaya because of the quality, but no longer. I used to have a favorite girl in What's Up. I posted about her a few times and jokingly referred to her as the future Mrs. Natty Bumpo. Well, I think I am going to divorce Mrs. Natty. She is really good looking and the sex has always been great, but after I texted her recently that I was coming back to Thailand soon, she texted back that she needed $200 for medicine - could I send $$ too her right away. WTF!!!!! I have known this girl for over 2 years and she never asked for money on top of what i gave her for service and tips before. Too bad. It was a beautiful friendship while it lasted.
My new favorite Go Go is Airport because I am now in love (LOL) with a sexy and funny girl I met there last October. I like the party atmosphere of this little place and I like the mama who runs the joint. I think I was giving "N" 1500bt ST / 2500bt LT, but I can't remember exactly because even though I barfined "N" many times the cumulative effect of the Tequila shots have blurred the distinction in my mind between what she asked for service and what I gave her in total including tips. I will find out in about a month when I see "N" again. Can't wait!
Here is a sticker shock for you. What's Up Go Go. 1am: barfine 1000bt + 2000bt ST or 4000bt LT. Is it worth it? My opinion: sometimes, but that is a very subjective answer. What's Up Go Go does have more than its fair share of lookers. I mean really attractive girls. There is no question about that. It used to be my favorite Go Go in Pattaya because of the quality, but no longer. I used to have a favorite girl in What's Up.Well, the BF pricing at What's Up? Is much the same as it was last summer. Even then there some complaints hereabouts about this pricing. (Back then I stumbled into the place unawares of its notoriety on the $ scale.) Still, I ended up paying a girl the 1000 baht BF and 2000 for overnight (prolly about 2 a. M-ish leaving, and my hotel was in Jomtien. Explained to her ahead of time. So there may have been a tendency for her to want to get the money and call it a LT).
Perhaps average to above average in looks for the girls in What's Up? (at the time) , which had some stunners in their tasteful lesbian show. Tongues flickering across the labias. Nice! There seemed to be more energy to What's Up? Than most of the other joints. I recall also that there were a lot more younger punters there, too.
The girl I picked was very fun and friendly, a real sweetie. I ended up keeping her on for another day. She had to stop by the bar to hand over the 1K barfine (I also gave her the 2k). Up on return to sex prison got a few emails, but cut off communications after receiving the (utterly predictable) eventual request for money, ostensibly to buy milk for the kid. Suppose if she were desperate enough for money she could have posted a charity drive to her 3, 000 Facebook friends.
Here is a sticker shock for you. What's Up Go Go. 1am: barfine 1000bt + 2000bt ST or 4000bt LT. Is it worth it? My opinion: sometimes, but that is a very subjective answer...As long as the five day millionaire visitors pay up, it will continue to rise. I get girls in Hong Kong ST for 2000 Baht easily, no need to fork out the travel expenses. I give them my number and how much I am willing to pay and ask them to call me when they have no business with some rich or ignorant traveller offering 4 times that and more. I get way more calls than I can handle.
I don't know. But unless you are exchanging thousands of dollars / euro at a time the difference is negligible. There is no sense in searching all over town just to save $3.
http://bankexchangerates.daytodaydata.net/default.aspxYou are right, but Csun asked to change 2000 USD and if he has the choice to make the next question is if it is worth to carry the cash around. I myself have opened an account with Kasikorn bank. If I do a wire transfer from HSBC Hong Kong in the morning it will be in the account the same day afternoon to be withdrawn by a local ATM card with no charges. The better TT rate is just about enough to cover the wire charges (14 US$) if you send 2000 USD. All in all it would set you back 27 USD for wiring 2000 compared to change cash at Superrich. It would set you back the same amount to change the cash in a bank in Pattaya.
Mr Enternational
01-31-13, 02:36
You are right, but Csun asked to change 2000 USD and if he has the choice to make the next question is if it is worth to carry the cash around. I myself have opened an account with Kasikorn bank. If I do a wire transfer from HSBC Hong Kong in the morning it will be in the account the same day afternoon to be withdrawn by a local ATM card with no charges. The better TT rate is just about enough to cover the wire charges (14 US$) if you send 2000 USD. All in all it would set you back 27 USD for wiring 2000 compared to change cash at Superrich. It would set you back the same amount to change the cash in a bank in Pattaya.If he changes 2000 at Super Rich instead of Kasikorn he will get 920 baht more. The question is if it is worth his time and money to go around Bangkok looking for Super Rich just to have an extra 920 baht in his pocket (or 700 baht after taxi fare). His time may be worth more than that.
I have Kasikorn in Thailand as well as an HSBC internet account in the USA. But it is so complicated to transfer from HSBC USA to Thailand that it is just much easier to bring the cash, exchange it, and deposit it into my Kasikorn. HSBC USA international wire transfers have to go through the branch in Los Angeles and forms have to be filled out, etc bla bla bla.
Paul Kausch
01-31-13, 03:15
If he changes 2000 at Super Rich instead of Kasikorn he will get 920 baht more. The question is if it is worth his time and money to go around Bangkok looking for Super Rich just to have an extra 920 baht in his pocket (or 700 baht after taxi fare). His time may be worth more than that.
I have Kasikorn in Thailand as well as an HSBC internet account in the USA. But it is so complicated to transfer from HSBC USA to Thailand that it is just much easier to bring the cash, exchange it, and deposit it into my Kasikorn. HSBC USA international wire transfers have to go through the branch in Los Angeles and forms have to be filled out, etc bla bla bla.There's a Superrich at the Chit Lom BTS. How much street food will 700 baht buy?
The barfine is 1000 baht in at least 5 go gos that I know in Pattaya right now, some as far out as on Soi 8. Seems to be the new trend. My new favorite is mamasans with set prices written on a piece of paper that they show you that say "Short time 1500, long time 2500" haha
The barfine is 1000 baht in at least 5 go gos that I know in Pattaya right now, some as far out as on Soi 8. Seems to be the new trend. My new favorite is mamasans with set prices written on a piece of paper that they show you that say "Short time 1500, long time 2500" hahaWhat strikes me most after two weeks in Pattaya is that supply of almost everything so exceeds demand. (Condos for rent are and tall girls are the only exceptions I have come across.) Just sit in any gogo for a while watching the bored girls go through their paces without getting any interest, or wait till closing time, or look at the beer bars, or walk along Beach Road almost any time, except just after the police have done a sweep. The mystery isn't so much how some gogo's can charge so much, but how the minimum price of 500 holds up.
Gogo and beer bars provide a service and have overheads, so have to make something. But 1, 000 bar fines, including when they are about to close and there are still 10 girls left? Some girls are more attractive than others, and you might want to fall in love for a couple of days and pay whatever. But, unlike our home countries, there are always adequate alternatives at the standard prices.
Maybe its just that the suppliers are just better organised than the consumers. And sober.
There's a case for starting a thread on value in Pattaya. Contrasted with ripoffs, or if you like the higher end of the market. Covering prices, for drinks, fines, girls, but also pressure to buy drinks, clearly posted prices, and compliance with pre-barfine agreements.
Thanks guys for the response for changing money. Here is a little more information. I am coming to Bangkok and then going to Pattaya. A few friends will be coming with me for the first time. They are pretty new and will be bring new US $100 bills so hopefully won't have any problem with money changers. We were just wondering if it is better to change money in Bangkok or Pattaya to get better rate. We will probably be changing at least $2000 each and maybe more. It doesn't make any difference in the risk since we will be carrying either Thai Baht or US $ on our person either way. We are staying in hotels with in room safe so hopefully that would be safe. Thanks again for taking the time out to help us.
Scorchin1470
01-31-13, 19:06
Thanks guys for the response for changing money. Here is a little more information. I am coming to Bangkok and then going to Pattaya. A few friends will be coming with me for the first time. They are pretty new and will be bring new US $100 bills so hopefully won't have any problem with money changers. We were just wondering if it is better to change money in Bangkok or Pattaya to get better rate. We will probably be changing at least $2000 each and maybe more. It doesn't make any difference in the risk since we will be carrying either Thai Baht or US $ on our person either way. We are staying in hotels with in room safe so hopefully that would be safe. Thanks again for taking the time out to help us.Far too many agonising changing money and worrying where to change it.
For frequent travellers: I usually keep about $50 in baht back from each trip and that gets me out of the Airport into Bangkok or Pattaya.
For newbies: Buy $50 in Baht at home or at the Airport and get to your destination.
Then when you are settled in look around a few (but don't waste too much time) banks / dealers and find a rate you are happy with.
Do not change a large sum all at once. You may not need it all and you will lose changing baht to $ when you leave.
But above all quit worrying about a baht or two on the exchange rate. You are there to enjoy and a couple of beers will negate any gain from trudging the streets when
You could be deep into a FL.
Thanks guys for the response for changing money. Here is a little more information. I am coming to Bangkok and then going to Pattaya. A few friends will be coming with me for the first time. They are pretty new and will be bring new US $100 bills so hopefully won't have any problem with money changers. We were just wondering if it is better to change money in Bangkok or Pattaya to get better rate. We will probably be changing at least $2000 each and maybe more. It doesn't make any difference in the risk since we will be carrying either Thai Baht or US $ on our person either way. We are staying in hotels with in room safe so hopefully that would be safe. Thanks again for taking the time out to help us.As I said, Superrich is the place to go. Another option would be Vasu at the corner of Sukhumvit Soi 7/1, the rate is just almost as good. But there better change smaller chunks (I'd say 500 USD at a time) , as I heard stories that make me not trust them with large amounts. Superrich is where many if not most of the smaller changers change.
There's a Superrich at the Chit Lom BTS. How much street food will 700 baht buy?They are a second separate superrich company called superrich 1965 with more branches and all different rates. Only the head office is competitive.
http://www.superrich1965.com/rate.php
These rates are applicable for business hours from 9.00 am - 6.00 pm. at the RAJADUMRI and SILOM branch only.
I am old hand at Bankok but will be visiting Pattaya first time soon. I have studied quite a few pages of this forum and elsewhere to generally familiarize with the scene etc.
However I need some specific information and would be greatful if some of the experenced ones can give me quick hand here. It is very difficult to cherry pick because the info overload is overwhelming.
1. Can anyone please let me know names of 3 best
A. Massage Parlours with full service (similar to mango / SW in BKK)
Be. Go Go bars where girls dance topless or nude (I have shortlisted Baccara already)
See. Best DAYTIME pick up points for freelancers.
The. Best bars to pick up good looking girls
Thanks in advance to any input you can provide.
Thanks Tiger for the help. It is great information that we should change $500 each time. We are so new that we would be able to tell good Thai bills from the fake ones so change in smaller group would limit our loss if we get taken with fake bills. Thanks again for all the information.
Paul Kausch
02-01-13, 03:04
Thanks Tiger for the help. It is great information that we should change $500 each time. We are so new that we would be able to tell good Thai bills from the fake ones so change in smaller group would limit our loss if we get taken with fake bills. Thanks again for all the information.I've used the Superrich branch at Chit Lom BTS several times. I've always found them to be professional. You get the best rate from $100s and make sure the bills are in perfect Condition. If there are any marks on the bills (even if they are otherwise new) you will have trouble at the currency exchange businesses who will refer you to a bank, which will accept the bill but at a significantly lower exchange rate. If you use Superrich at the Chit Lom BTS platform, exit the arrival area through the turnstiles heading towards exit 1. As you're walking towards the exit keep watching; it will be on your right.
Thanks Tiger for the help. It is great information that we should change $500 each time. We are so new that we would be able to tell good Thai bills from the fake ones so change in smaller group would limit our loss if we get taken with fake bills. Thanks again for all the information.If you go with Superrich there is no need to worry. Also I have to see a fake bill yet in Thailand. At Vasu the stories are more that they may shortchange you or say it were not 5000 that you gave them.
1. Can anyone please let me know names of 3 best
A. Massage Parlours with full service (similar to mango / SW in BKK)
Be. Go Go bars where girls dance topless or nude (I have shortlisted Baccara already)
See. Best DAYTIME pick up points for freelancers.
The. Best bars to pick up good looking girls
Thanks in advance to any input you can provide.A) On Soi Honey (running east off Second Road; ask anyone / local for "where Honey Body Massage?") there's several places with girls equal to or better in looks to Soi 6 6 ladies.
- There's several MPs side-by-side to each other. Best looking ladies being at "Up to You" MP, just walk east on Soi Honey, pass Honey Body Massage that's on your left, then Up to You and it's neighbors will be on the right.
- Several ladies quoted me B 200 for 1 hr for the massage + HJ B 800 or + HJ / BJ B 800 or + HJ / BJ / FS B 1, 000.
- So total B 1, 200 should be = 1 hr massage including HJ, BJ, FS.
- At Up to You MP I just wanted a B 200 1 hr oil massage only from a young hottie and most of the ladies would only accept me if I would do a "special" service mentioned above. One pretty lady finally accepted but said how about "40 minute, not 1 hr" and then when her brushing my Mini-Me didn't result in me buying a special she ended the massage at 30 minutes. I wasn't going to make a stink out of missing 30 minutes since I was happy with having an attractive masseuse give me a oil massage.
- There's a bunch of similar MPs (though not so attractive young ladies) on Soi Chaiyapoon & Soi Lengkee which run east off Soi Buakhao (just find "The Club / Oasis GoGo" on Soi Buakhao and while facing the GG the street on the left is Chaiyapoon and on the right is Lengkee.
B) On WS
- Baccarra's sister GGs in order of best to mediocre: Happy, Peppermint, Beach.
- Casnovy (similar to Happy GG, transparent pricing with signs on the walls: LD B 110, BF (for dancers) B 600, draft beer B 60.
- SuperBaby, SuperGirl.
C) From 06:30 (sunrise) to 11:00 then JP (International) Bar on Soi Marine, WS
- And then of course CB / BR (Coconut Bar, the strand / sidewalk that runs along Beach Road where FLs sit underneath coconut trees) but most ladies are working BR about 20:00. 22:00.
D) Hit the biggest beerbar complexes which has the highest concentration of women to peruse and pick from:
- WS: there's PBG / Sirens complex (next to Pattaya Beer Garden),"new Simon" complex,"old Simon" complex.
- Soi 7, 8 or Soi Diana.
- Pattaya New Playa just north of Soi 8 or Action Street just north of Soi 1, both on east side of Second Road
FruitNinja
02-01-13, 12:17
I am old hand at Bankok but will be visiting Pattaya first time soon. I have studied quite a few pages of this forum and elsewhere to generally familiarize with the scene etc.
However I need some specific information and would be greatful if some of the experenced ones can give me quick hand here. It is very difficult to cherry pick because the info overload is overwhelming.
1. Can anyone please let me know names of 3 best
A. Massage Parlours with full service (similar to mango / SW in BKK)
Be. Go Go bars where girls dance topless or nude (I have shortlisted Baccara already)
See. Best DAYTIME pick up points for freelancers.
The. Best bars to pick up good looking girls
Thanks in advance to any input you can provide.Margaya,
I'm here right now.
I'm not sure about massage parlors and FS but I just had a massage arranged at my hotel. Good massage 4-5 start hotel and there was FS on the menu. Could have been had for 500 bhat. And although she was not a 18 year old cutie she was definitely cute at 30. I opted for a BJ and she did a nice job. I pulled a real nice girl off the beach last night around 11:00. There was a lot available but some of it was rough. Walked doe the beach this afternoon and there was a lot out. I think patience and walking are what it takes.
I also had a girl from the bars on Soi 6. Real experience. Lots of girls, most I wouldn't do but there were the occasional gem new from the provinces. That's what I like. They have rooms right above the bars. Might not be the cleanest but there was a shower in the one I was in.
I did the bards but opted not to pay big money as I was tired. That's why I pulled a ST beach girl. I did make a few observations although they are not comprehensive.
There is a mad rush to get you into a seat and drink in your hand. It's not like AC where you can take a peak at the lineup before you decide if you want a drink. I had to be rude for them to back off and let me see the talent.
Living Dolls I liked a lot. They had good talent and it wasn't wall to wall monger. I also stopped at Baccara. Bigger club, lot more girls, but packed wall to wall with mongers. They are big big drink pushers. Alost annoying to an extent, not because of the cost but the pestering is annoying. The touts are right in your face and loud as all hell.
I got quoted 1K bar fine and the girls were in the 2-3000 range. I'm not sure how that falls compared to BKK and as I wasn't buying I wasn't really trying to negotiate.
PM if you need additional info or if you have any special advise for BKK.
FN
I also stopped at Baccara. Bigger club, lot more girls, but packed wall to wall with mongers. They are big big drink pushers. Alost annoying to an extent, not because of the cost but the pestering is annoying. The touts are right in your face and loud as all hell.
I got quoted 1K bar fine and the girls were in the 2-3000 range. I'm not sure how that falls compared to BKK and as I wasn't buying I wasn't really trying to negotiate.
That's strange since I've been a regular at Baccara for the last five years and have NEVER seen anything like you describe (except for the crowds of mongers who are there to enjoy the quality girls). They never push drinks. I've seen customers buy a coke and nurse it for 2 hours, no problem. I've never been pestered nor have I ever seen anyone get pestered there. There are no touts, no one in my face, and no loud behavior from the wait staff. The bar fines are 600 baht and most girls will quote 2000 baht for short time. Those who don't will go for less.
Are you sure you went to Baccara?
Thanks a lot Amex Spg. Thats lot of information and lot of territory to cover.
I have already extended my stay in Pattaya thanks to your input. LOL.
Thanks again
A) On Soi Honey (running east off Second Road; ask anyone / local for "where Honey Body Massage?") there's several places with girls equal to or better in looks to Soi 6 6 ladies.
- There's several MPs side-by-side to each other. Best looking ladies being at "Up to You" MP, just walk east on Soi Honey...
Thanks alot for the report / answers to my questions. I have shot off a PM to you.
Cheers
I am old hand at Bankok but will be visiting Pattaya first time soon. I have studied quite a few pages of this forum and elsewhere to generally familiarize with the scene etc.
However I need some specific information and would be greatful if some of the experenced ones can give me quick hand here. It is very difficult to cherry pick because the info overload is overwhelming.
1. Can anyone please let me know names of 3 best
A. Massage Parlours with full service (similar to mango / SW in BKK)
Be. Go Go bars where girls dance topless or nude (I have shortlisted Baccara already)
See. Best DAYTIME pick up points for freelancers.
The. Best bars to pick up good looking girls
Thanks in advance to any input you can provide.Ave monger,
For the best oil and soapy massage in Pattaya see link below:
[Deleted by Admin]
Regarding nude a go go, I am sure will not be a problem to find them in Walking street. Just walk and go in.
Any way the best at the moment are:
Happy.
Iron.
Baccara.
What's up.
For freelancer the most hot disco at the moment is INSOMNIA; Especially between 3-5am (a go go girls finish work come here for partying with friends). Also LUCIFER have a wide choise but what personally I don't like is the low light (you may pick the wrong gal)
For daytime, if you are good to talk up girls. Mike or central festival mall.
For paying ST, beach front called also COCNUT BAR (the biggest bar in the world.
Happy mongering.
Rocco
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Margaya: Map at.
www.PattayaBarGuide.com
To fix my typos (corrections are capitalized)
- At a MP with specials the price (always negotiable depending on your skills) for the HJ is B 500 (NOT B 800; a BJ is that price).
- The correct name is "New Pattaya PlaZa".
- It's DRINKING Street that's just north of Big C and Soi 1. Action Street is on Soi Buakhao and currently sucks (it only opened in the last few months).
On the map the of the things I mentioned:
- Soi Chayapoon, Soi Lenkee, Soi 7, Soi 8, Soi Diana, Drinking Street, (New) Pattaya Plaza are all depicted. CB is the sidewalk / strand running along the beach of BR. Women available 24/7 but less during daylight hours / police raids and none during medium / heavy rains (ladies wait for rain to end & customers to return).
- To BF a good looking Bargirl on Soi 6 you can BF ST (B 300) or LT (about B 500. B 700 but you might have to wait for a certain time such as after 18:00/24:00 / etc). It's bar / bargirl density along one Soi & it's easy to view the ladies (sitting along the Soi in adequate lighting) , plus I think it's easier to find my type of ladies on Soi 6 than at other BB complexes / areas.
- Not on the map: Soi Honey, but it's simply the Soi parrallel to & north of Soi Diana.
- Tip: don't just print out the website map. Download the map (per instructions on the website ie use right-click) & print that out. That map should have a blow-up of the Soi Diana / Soi LK Metro area showing what's there especially on LK Metro.
- Lastly: GoGos are free to enter so just walk in, walk a circle of the place & if you don't see anything you like (eg Happy is having an off-night or all the lookers are gone / BF'd already) , leave and return on a future date at a different time (perhaps earlier eg 20:45. 23:00).
- I read a good report (who knows if the reviewer was really objective) about MP specials "My Girl Massage" (which I have not tried but may do so someday) :
http://mygirlmassage.com/easy-map-and-directions-pattaya.html
Cheers.
LittleBigMan
02-03-13, 03:34
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1381026]That's strange since I've been a regular at Baccara for the last five years and have NEVER seen anything like you describe (except for the crowds of mongers who are there to enjoy the quality girls). They never push drinks. I've seen customers buy a coke and nurse it for 2 hours, no problem. I've never been pestered nor have I ever seen anyone get pestered there. There are no touts, no one in my face, and no loud behavior from the wait staff. The bar fines are 600 baht and most girls will quote 2000 baht for short time. Those who don't will go for less.
Are you sure you went to Baccara? [
I like Daddy07, venture regularly to Baccara the last few years, for me it is the most comfortable place for what I want when I come out of my cave and I have been to most of the clubs on Walking Street. I might even have sat next to the King of Jomtien and not even know I had the privilege?
In all the years, even with the rotating waiters coming and going I have never been push for a drink even from the hostesses that work there. For the hostesses it is their job to see if you need company and it is the job of the waiters to roam around and if they see your glass is empty, ask if you want another. I've seen guys like Daddy07, nurse that drink and the waiter comes by and ask? The guy say no that is the end of it. I've seen guys even a Japanese fall asleep right in front of the stage and no problem, I've seen a guy drunk throw up all over himself and seat and the waiters took it as their job to clean it up and help the guy out. I've too seen the guy or guys come in and nurse the same coke for over 2 hours until the ice melts and the glass is overflowing and the waiter has to continue to come by and wipe the counter. I see guys milk that one drink for hours and pull out a smoke every 5 minutes and instead of smoking hold the smoke in their fingers and just let it burn just like the drink sitting on the counter.
Whatever, you M. O. Just got to remember that is their job to move things along. Sure there are places that push too hard and don't know the meaning of customer service. But in my opinion and experience from my visits to Baccarra, they aren't one of them. You might just had a bad first experience or you are one of those that do milk your drink. In a crowded club, an exposed low or empty glass will warrant a waiter to ask you if you like a drink. To you maybe that is pushy and that makes them touts but they might just be unintentionally pointing out something clear to others?
LBM
That's strange since I've been a regular at Baccara for the last five years and have NEVER seen anything like you describe (except for the crowds of mongers who are there to enjoy the quality girls). They never push drinks. I've seen customers buy a coke and nurse it for 2 hours, no problem. I've never been pestered nor have I ever seen anyone get pestered there. There are no touts, no one in my face, and no loud behavior from the wait staff. The bar fines are 600 baht and most girls will quote 2000 baht for short time. Those who don't will go for less.
Are you sure you went to Baccara?Totally agree. If anything, I've had the opposite problem. At times it can be hard to work it there if you actually plan on taking a girl out. You're less likely to be approached by a girl or even get eye contact than at almost any other go go in Pattaya. In probably 30 visits, I've never been approached by a mamasan and almost always have to flag down a waiter to get another drink. This has been the case when visiting alone, in a group, or with women I've barfined from other clubs.
A) On Soi Honey (running east off Second Road; ask anyone / local for "where Honey Body Massage?") there's several places with girls equal to or better in looks to Soi 6 6 ladies.I have to disagree with you on the looks. I find them usually lesser in looks. You can get the 200 massage + 800 for full service, but that's the same you pay on Soi 6. Soi 6 also has many more options.
The best thing going on Soi Honey (better known as Soi 11) is probably Honey soapy. But the old guy who usually works there asking you to pick a girl is a pushy asshole (according to the girls that's because he has erectile disfunction) and it's a bit pricey (2000 for red button girls. 2500 for blue). Most of the girls are hardened and sometimes you'll visit and not see anything worth it.
You can get a HJ finish at almost all of the "regular" massage places (of which there are several on almost every block). Soi Buakhao has the lowest prices for regular massages, at no loss in quality. You can find massage for 99 baht, extras negotiated if you look around.
For go go's don't forget to give LK Metro a visit. Tons of go go bars in a small area, no tourists (only punters) and plenty of hot women. Showgirls has some very hot chicks and good shows. Opens at noon, closes 2-3. No push to buy drinks. It can sometimes get crowded.
Wolvenvacht
02-03-13, 18:53
I've too seen the guy or guys come in and nurse the same coke for over 2 hours until the ice melts and the glass is overflowing and the waiter has to continue to come by and wipe the counter.You cannot overflow your glass by melting the ice in it. Physically impossible. Unless you first heaped ice in the glass well above the rim and then added the drink (but that is cheating of course).
What you saw was probably condensation being wiped up.
LittleBigMan
02-04-13, 06:03
You cannot overflow your glass by melting the ice in it. Physically impossible. Unless you first heaped ice in the glass well above the rim and then added the drink (but that is cheating of course).
What you saw was probably condensation being wiped up.I respect your opinion but I think your comment is somewhat Anal retentive. First, my comment was somewhat of a stretch just to make a point. You obviously are one of those irritating people if I say for example the cost was 400 baht, you would respond " you are wrong it is 399 baht " You can't be right all the time? Even if you are no one wants to hear it! After a while people will start to shut down on you even when you have something valid to add!
See, you are wrong because you weren't there?
See the glass comes full to the top with ice, the waiter pours the coke into the glass, the temperature difference smells some of the ice but the waiter tops it off. After a while the guy finally stops smoking and takes a sip because now he noticed that his coke is beginning to water down from the ice. The waiter notices guys like this especially the one's sitting in front. The waiter now comes by and help move the situation along by taking the can of coke and topping off the drink again sometimes over filling it and takes his towel out to wipe the overflow and of course the condensation too?
The real question is did you get the point or do you want to focus on something stupid because the next time you post I will find the time to breakdown your comments too?
You cannot overflow your glass by melting the ice in it. Physically impossible. Unless you first heaped ice in the glass well above the rim and then added the drink (but that is cheating of course).
What you saw was probably condensation being wiped up.Thank's for the quick lesson in fluid dynamics. It has been a burning issue on my mind since reading the original post. Cheers.
Regards,
BJ
Wolvenvacht
02-04-13, 08:14
I respect your opinion but I think your comment is somewhat Anal retentive. First, my comment was somewhat of a stretch just to make a point.You obviously are one of those irritating people if I say for example the cost was 400 baht, you would respond " you are wrong it is 399 baht "I very well understood your point, but the way you made it was wrong, scientifically wrong. In a world where science is being attacked from all sides, I will stand as its defender.
LittleBigMan
02-04-13, 09:35
I very well understood your point, but the way you made it was wrong, scientifically wrong. In a world where science is being attacked from all sides, I will stand as its defender.And that is why in a world where there are guys like you who seem to believe in everything they read and over think everything you clearly make my point too and I'm sure everyone see it? If this basically is what your posting is all about knock yourself out! I'm sure you have a scientific theory as to how you stick your foot in your mouth, how to fold your shirts, pants, place the soap in the right position and while you are getting a BJ, a scientific reasons as to what is going on and how a condom should go on?
I'm sure you got the point in a clear Anal retentive way! But basically I and most likely no one gives a scientify flying f-K!
I very well understood your point, but the way you made it was wrong, scientifically wrong. In a world where science is being attacked from all sides, I will stand as its defender.What can you tell us about Global warming?
Wolvenvacht
02-04-13, 20:10
What can you tell us about Global warming?. Don't tempt me.
. Don't tempt me.I thought this thread is about girls?
I thought this thread is about girls?It's about egos.
Thanks a lot Profetapk, I got plenty to gorge on now.
Ave monger,
For the best oil and soapy massage in Pattaya see link below:
http://www.**************.com/travel-blog/pattaya-best-soapy-massages/
http://www.**************.com/travel-blog/pattaya-best-sexy-oil-massage/
Regarding nude a go go, I am sure will not be a problem to find them in Walking street. Just walk and go in.
Any way the best at the moment are:
Happy.
Iron.
Baccara.
What's up.
For freelancer the most hot disco at the moment is INSOMNIA; Especially between 3-5am (a go go girls finish work come here for partying with friends). Also LUCIFER have a wide choise but what personally I don't like is the low light (you may pick the wrong gal)
For daytime, if you are good to talk up girls. Mike or central festival mall.
For paying ST, beach front called also COCNUT BAR (the biggest bar in the world.
Happy mongering.
Rocco
I am back to Pattaya after 2. 5 years mongering in PI and DR.
* I used to be regular at Soi6 Jomtien. Anyone been recently? What is the.
Quality of service. I used to pay 300 for oily plus 700 for BBBJCIM.
* Most of Go-Go girls quoting 3000+ LT now. Any advice on Go-Go`s where to.
Look for 2000 LT? Babydolls, Misty`s or maybe I should check LK instead of WS?
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[quote=mngweco; 1383111]i am back to pattaya after 2. 5 years mongering in pi and dr.
* i used to be regular at soi6 jomtien. anyone been recently? what is the.
quality of service. i used to pay 300 for oily plus 700 for bbbjcim.
* most of go-go girls quoting 3000+ lt now. any advice on go-go`s where to.
look for 2000 lt? babydolls, misty`s or maybe i should check lk instead of ws?
you know the place then? you can get bbbj and fs on soi 6 for 1000 b including the room.
or 700 bbbjcim at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. or pump station.
or how about the 100's of sw's on beach road. for 500 b? bbbj, and fuck for that price.
most mp fs for 1000. or get takeout from a mp.
the gogo's are nice for a fun look see time, but much better options for pussy elsewhere.
FruitNinja
02-07-13, 02:24
That's strange since I've been a regular at Baccara for the last five years and have NEVER seen anything like you describe (except for the crowds of mongers who are there to enjoy the quality girls). They never push drinks. I've seen customers buy a coke and nurse it for 2 hours, no problem. I've never been pestered nor have I ever seen anyone get pestered there. There are no touts, no one in my face, and no loud behavior from the wait staff. The bar fines are 600 baht and most girls will quote 2000 baht for short time. Those who don't will go for less.
Are you sure you went to Baccara?Maybe it was the girl taking care of my area. Maybe it was the alignment of the moon relative to Mars but that was the feeling I was left with. Having just said that I've been to the one in BKK for the last 4 nights and it's been fine. The talent is great. But it's wall to wall mongers.
Had one barfine turn into a cluster f-k so I booted her, but I'm laying next to a stunner that I barfined for two days and may even take her for my last full day. I liked her so much I didn't even negotiate. We partied with a guy from Canada. Rang the bell a few times, had my barfine do it. She thought she was hot shit. Got to ***** slap a Japanese guy after I barfined my girl. I went to the bathroom and he was all over her. She was already in her street clothes. I asked him if I could help him, whether there was a problem, and if there wasn't, would he like one. She loved it. I leave Saturday, got #24 at Annie's for my last hurrah.
Thank's for the quick lesson in fluid dynamics. It has been a burning issue on my mind since reading the original post. Cheers.
Regards,
BJI don't think that's much related to fluid dynamics. If you wanted to use fancy words, you could say thermal expansion.
However, rather than rant and rave, why not just take in a small tidbit of free, and somewhat amusing, knowledge?
personally have not paid bar fines in pattaya since about 2005. imo bfs are for suckers. i mean, who pays for snow in an alaska winter? generally i just grab my gals on walking street, the 7/11 or wherever. however, things have changed since my last trip september 2012, and not for the better.
walking walking street at 11:30 pm tonight and there are far more tourists than before. people from china, russia, arabs, europe. not many americans. and these are real tourists. hu? why come to pattaya anyway? makes hunting tougher. and tonight i walked walking street for over two hours, and could not find anything. eventually found a gal on one of the side streets (soi bj perhaps?). she was hot. 27, and we agreed to 700 baht for st.
on walking street there are what i call "standing busses" which are the gals who are just standing in front of lucifers, tony's, etc looking for customers; i avoid them. prefer gals who are walking to the discos or going to / from work or with their friends (i call them "moving busses", since if you miss one, another is always coming around). now, gals wandering about walking street are just harder to find.
three days ago went into insomnia. when going in the security guard really patted me down, and i do mean really patted me down. so much so he actually scraped my balls. pissed me off; i mean who does this guy think he is, a tsa agent? anyway, met former gal there and took her short time. she not a pro, but rather sells condos in jontien. have to state that should anyone want to purchase a condo or timeshare in jontien, well, let me put it this way: i recommend you have your head examined. do not buy a condo or time share there, or for that matter anywhere in thailand. however, good to bang the gals selling those things!
here is the gal who just left my hotel about half hour ago. as you could probably tell, she did not want her picture taken at all, but just snuck it before she left.
--popper
Mr Enternational
02-08-13, 00:31
She not a pro, but rather sells condos in Jontien. Have to state that should anyone want to purchase a condo or timeshare in Jontien, well, let me put it this way: I recommend you have your head examined. Do not buy a condo or time share there, or for that matter anywhere in Thailand. However, good to bang the gals selling those things!Wingman just bought one in bumfuck Jomtien the other day, $35000 cash. http://maldives.pattaya-laguna.com/pics.html And he does't even use motorbikes. It won't be ready until 2015. He hopes to be able to sell it at double the price. But I said who would buy a used one at those prices when new ones not built yet are much more cheaper? (I would never buy something that wouldn't be ready until 2 years down the road anyway.) He figures worst case scenario he will be stuck with a condo in Jomtien.
My rent is only $1900 / year. I figure at that rate for 20 years will only be $38000 but who knows if I will even want to be around there by then. So it works out perfectly for me. No permanent stuff.
FruitNinja
02-08-13, 03:18
Wingman just bought one in bumfuck Jomtien the other day, $35000 cash.
http://maldives.pattaya-laguna.com/pics.html
And he does't even use motorbikes. It won't be ready until 2015. He hopes to be able to sell it at double the price. But I said who would buy a used one at those prices when new ones not built yet are much more cheaper? (I would never buy something that wouldn't be ready until 2 years down the road anyway.) He figures worst case scenario he will be stuck with a condo in Jomtien.
My rent is only $1900 / year. I figure at that rate for 20 years will only be $38000 but who knows if I will even want to be around there by then. So it works out perfectly for me. No permanent stuff.Why would you saddle yourself down with ownership. And how do you know what the market will do? Look at the condo market in the US. Nobody thought it would stop and now most owners are upside down. I can't see myself staying and one place long enough to make that kind of commitment. I've spent the last month traveling around. I like a lot of places, Vietnam especially. Maybe I'm a "variety is the spice of life" kind of guy. Quite frankly even though I like the ease of mongering here I'm afraid I might hurt myself if I was always here.
FN
LittleBigMan
02-08-13, 16:29
I'm a believer in owning property but I don't have a knock on renting too. It is a individual choice. As far as condos goes in my opinion in Pattaya the two best areas are Jomtien and Wong Amat beach. My first choice is Jomtien because I like the beach area although I wouldn't swim it in.
As far as buying a condo that wouldn't be ready until 2015, this is the reason why your friend got it for 1, 000, 000 baht, the majority of these projects are offering units at a lower price than when it will be built is because they need to obtain the 20% so they can obtain financing from the bank for the rest to break ground. Once the construction begins the other units will have a higher price structure. This is like a thank you for helping finance the project. The price your friend paid 1, 000, 000 baht that same unit would most like go to 1, 200, 000 baht. The drawback, one needs to do some research to go with a dependable builder that has success in completing projects.
Once completed, your friends idea that the price will double is a far stretch and the remark that why buy used when they are so many new ones available. But the idea is that as new ones are build the price will be higher unaffordable to others so they buy use?
When I came here over 10 years ago, I was told that one day they had plans to build a huge gambling establishment at Jomtien. I heard they even had the land set aside which always had me guessing they there are a bunch of empty lots right on the beach for years and years now? Although gambling is illegal I also heard that the current Pattaya Mayor was put into office to get it done once it does become legal? Never gave it a second thought for all these years but just the other day I read in the Bangkok Post a article suggesting that making gambling in Thailand is getting closer to reality?
This had me thinking about the beginning to the end for all of us. I could imagine if this happens in Thailand and particular Jomtien if a casino opens. I could see everything going through the roof just like Macau. I might be heading to a new destination?
It looks like he bought the 23 sq, mtr. place? That is a closet with no view.
I actually can see them bringing casinos to Pattaya. What a cluster fuck the place would be.
BambiJacobson
02-08-13, 18:16
Wingman just bought one in bumfuck Jomtien the other day, $35000 cash.
http://maldives.pattaya-laguna.com/pics.html
And he does't even use motorbikes. It won't be ready until 2015. He hopes to be able to sell it at double the price. But I said who would buy a used one at those prices when new ones not built yet are much more cheaper? (I would never buy something that wouldn't be ready until 2 years down the road anyway.) He figures worst case scenario he will be stuck with a condo in Jomtien.
My rent is only $1900 / year. I figure at that rate for 20 years will only be $38000 but who knows if I will even want to be around there by then. So it works out perfectly for me. No permanent stuff.Sounds like your Wingman, looks at this like an investment more than a place to actually live. You say he doesn't even use a motorbike.
If he has paid cash, I. E. No borrowing, and he can collect rent of like $ 1750 pr. Year then that would be the equivalent of getting 5 pct. Interest on a savings account which no banks that I know of will pay today.
If he can sell it for double as he thinks then that's even better.
Just saying.
Tonight walked Walking Street. Just loads of people. Mostly foreigners (not from Thailand or the US) doing their own thing. Trying to find SW, walking for hours. Figure from 9:30 until 11:00. Nothing. Then up north to Beach Road. Saw cute gal."Hey. Whatz up? I love you 600 baht." We talked and joked around. She would not budge from 1000 baht ST. Geez. Screw that. Moved on to another beach road gal. Pretty hot too. Same dialog. Again, she would not budge from 1000 baht ST. Checked my arm pits. Smelled OK.
What on Earth is going on here? Have I entered some alternate reality?
The thought of doing the bar fine thing just makes me cringe. Those damn bar beer games, LDs, and the rest. OK. Heading back to hotel alone for the night and will do the BJ bar or soi 6 or somesuch tomorrow. Heading back and saw two gals. Figured it must be a sign from god. "Where you go?" . . . "I love you" . . . "You go with me." Gal agrees to 700 baht. Really nice gal too. She has a daughter about 15 years. Not a problem. I believe in variety and all that. Gorgeous face too.
Outstanding BJ and screw in the room. Shoulda gotten picts, but didn't. She then told me that she has Belgium citizenship.
Right. And I have citizenship from Mars.
She showed me her card. And pictures on her phone from Belgium. She then spoke French to me. Counted from one to twenty and continued to translate to French what I asked her to (I took French back in high school, and from what little I remember, her French was accurate, and she appeared fluent). Told me the city she lived in while in Belgium, as well as her travels to Spain, Germany, and smoking weed in Amsterdam. She was married to a native there for about a decade, but now divorced. Headed back in few months (claimed air tickets cost 30, 000 baht). Whole thing makes little sense to me. I mean, why would she go with farang for 700 plus tip?
That said, the gal had a brain, something unique and which I find rather attractive. Her body was OK. Face near perfect. Breasts small. Definitely doable. Joked with her of doing her anal, and she said she never did it before, and wants to try. Next time perhaps.
Always an adventure. However, am concerned about Pattaya and finding FLs. It is just far harder now than it has been for me ever since I began Pattaya back 1999. Never harder to find them actually. Worried that things are changing, and not for the better.
--Popper
Tonight walked Walking Street. Just loads of people. Mostly foreigners (not from Thailand or the US) doing their own thing. Trying to find SW, walking for hours. Figure from 9:30 until 11:00. Nothing. Then up north to Beach Road. Saw cute gal."Hey. Whatz up? I love you 600 baht." We talked and joked around. She would not budge from 1000 baht ST. Geez. Screw that. Moved on to another beach road gal. Pretty hot too. Same dialog. Again, she would not budge from 1000 baht ST. Checked my arm pits. Smelled OK.
What on Earth is going on here? Have I entered some alternate reality?There is inflation of prices in Thailand. Things cost more than before. It's no surprise that the ladies on the Beach Road also want more money. They have bills to pay.
At a bar, you would pay 1000 B for the lady and a bar fine on top of this. But your bar fine is little bit like an insurance policy. Because when you know where the lady works and the people who know her, then you can feel safe with her in terms of her possibly stealing things from you or putting something in your drink to make you sleep and taking all your money.
You are taking a risk by looking for free-lancers who agree to do you for a low price. The lady may agree on the low price in order to steal from you or rob you later on.
She then told me that she has Belgium citizenship. Right. And I have citizenship from Mars.
Whole thing makes little sense to me. I mean, why would she go with farang for 700 plus tip?.PopperWell, since many here state not to base on home (western) prices, she follows the rule and sticks to local (thai) prices. As simple as that, nothing to complain. With a daughter of 15 she must be over 30 to 35yo. We know thai ladies still look young and are not as damaged as some of ours western gals, but still she knows competition is high and she better catch a customer for 700 rather than dreaming of the (never materializing) white knight paying her. How much? 1000? 1200? And then go home empty handed. With bills to be paid.
JesseJames
02-08-13, 21:08
[QUOTE=Popper1; 1384054]Tonight walked Walking Street. Just loads of people. Mostly foreigners (not from Thailand or the US) doing their own thing. Trying to find SW, walking for hours. Figure from 9:30 until 11:00. Nothing. Then up north to Beach Road. Saw cute gal."Hey. Whatz up? I love you 600 baht." We talked and joked around. She would not budge from 1000 baht ST. Geez. Screw that. Moved on to another beach road gal. Pretty hot too. Same dialog. Again, she would not budge from 1000 baht ST. Checked my arm pits. Smelled OK.
What on Earth is going on here? Have I entered some alternate reality?
You're such a big shot American and you can't even pay $30 for a girl. You should be ashamed of yourself. Unless, of course you are living on a $900 SS check. 1000 is no problem for me. Most good guys give 1, 500. Me too, if she's cool. Oh, too bad. That's ruining it for you cheapos. Actually, you cheap chumps are ruining it for the good guys because if the girls don't make enough to pay their expenses, they aren't going to stick around. Thanks cheap guy. I feel real sorry for you. Better luck in the next life.
Crocodilexp
02-08-13, 21:10
Then up north to Beach Road. She would not budge from 1000 baht ST.
However, am concerned about Pattaya and finding FLs. It is just far harder now than it has been for me ever since I began Pattaya back 1999. Never harder to find them actually. Worried that things are changing, and not for the better.It waxes and wanes. At Beach Road. 500 still seems to be the basic going rate. I pulled at that rate throughout 2012 (including in December). One thing I really liked about Pattaya freelancers is that for many years. 500 used to be THE rate, virtually no negotiation necessary.
However, demand increasingly exceeds supply, so sometimes they ask for 700-1000 and won't budge. High season and frequent police raids (always resulting in fines) don't help matters. Employment opportunities in Thailand are much better, so not as many girls join the industry. Inflation puts the pressure on as well. 500 baht now doesn't go nearly as far as few years back.
The bad thing is, once the going rate unhinges from 500, it generally doesn't stay at to 6-800, but quickly jumps to 1000.
Opening with 600 right could be a minor mistake. If you show you're willing to pay over the going rate, they're inclined to ask for even more.
There are nowhere near as many women available on the beach, though older, less attractive women are still in adequate supply and still go very easily for 500. After all for anyone over about 27 or 28 to charge more than 500 would be a bit absurd. However, I hate to admit that the younger cuter ones mostly want 700-800 from people who know what they're doing, and 1000 or even more from non-farangs or easily led men like Jesse James. I've often had to pay 1000 for special services, but obviously I don't repeat with those.
Finally, the numbers of younger, more attractive girls, and most importantly, younger more attractive drug addicted girls is way, way down on the beach due the upswing of police harassment. Most of the highly-motivated cuties are now simply sitting in jail fattening and getting scabies.
We all remember the days around '04-'06 when there wasn't a girl to be had on the beach. It is bound to come round again.
BambiJacobson
02-09-13, 00:36
Tonight walked Walking Street. Just loads of people. Mostly foreigners (not from Thailand or the US) doing their own thing. Trying to find SW, walking for hours. Figure from 9:30 until 11:00. Nothing. Then up north to Beach Road. Saw cute gal."Hey. Whatz up? I love you 600 baht." We talked and joked around. She would not budge from 1000 baht ST. Geez. Screw that. Moved on to another beach road gal. Pretty hot too. Same dialog. Again, she would not budge from 1000 baht ST. Checked my arm pits. Smelled OK.
What on Earth is going on here? Have I entered some alternate reality?Hi Popper,
I read your previous report about big changes since your September visit and now this report.
That's the price you pay for visiting Pattaya in the high season (November-April).
The bad changes you have noticed will probably be gone if you return in September.
The pussy is there it's just more expensive and picky.
Happy mongering.
Mr Enternational
02-09-13, 00:57
What on Earth is going on here? Have I entered some alternate reality?
You're such a big shot American and you can't even pay $30 for a girl. You should be ashamed of yourself. Unless, of course you are living on a $900 SS check. 1000 is no problem for me. Most good guys give 1, 500.Who said 1000 is a problem for anyone? But why give 1000 when it is not necessary to give 1000? I always purchase my street fruit for 10 baht. By your logic I am a good guy if I pay 30 baht instead. By their logic I am a sucker if I do that.
Actually, you cheap chumps are ruining it for the good guys because if the girls don't make enough to pay their expenses, they aren't going to stick around. Thanks cheap guy. I feel real sorry for you. Better luck in the next life.Hmmm. Maybe it makes more sense that she will STICK AROUND because she hasn't made enough to pay expenses. Besides, if she doesn't, you think she is going back to the country to a job that pays even less than 200 baht / day when she just got 700 baht in a few minutes? Most of them are not in hookerdom as a permanent occupation anyway. They are all doing it to get enough money to do XYZ. So it is inevitable that some will come and some will go. To me it looks like you are ruining it and driving all the girls away. Because when you give them too much they will have enough money to do what they need and get out of that shitty job. I think you are right. You must be in an alternate reality.
FruitNinja
02-09-13, 02:19
[QUOTE=Popper1; 1384054]Actually, you cheap chumps are ruining it for the good guys because if the girls don't make enough to pay their expenses, they aren't going to stick around. Thanks cheap guy. I feel real sorry for you. Better luck in the next life.Have you been to Pattaya? There is one thing that that isn't going to change soon: The amount of women.
[QUOTE=Popper1; 1384054]Tonight walked Walking Street. Just loads of people. Mostly foreigners (not from Thailand or the US) doing their own thing. Trying to find SW, walking for hours. Figure from 9:30 until 11:00. Nothing. Then up north to Beach Road. Saw cute gal."Hey. Whatz up? I love you 600 baht." We talked and joked around. She would not budge from 1000 baht ST. Geez. Screw that. Moved on to another beach road gal. Pretty hot too. Same dialog. Again, she would not budge from 1000 baht ST. Checked my arm pits. Smelled OK.
What on Earth is going on here? Have I entered some alternate reality?
You're such a big shot American and you can't even pay $30 for a girl. You should be ashamed of yourself. Unless, of course you are living on a $900 SS check. 1000 is no problem for me. Most good guys give 1, 500. Me too, if she's cool. Oh, too bad. That's ruining it for you cheapos. Actually, you cheap chumps are ruining it for the good guys because if the girls don't make enough to pay their expenses, they aren't going to stick around. Thanks cheap guy. I feel real sorry for you. Better luck in the next life.You one big shot man from the one big shot country. Stay there and spend your big shot money wherever you please, but don't go out and spoil the world to your level. At the very least stop calling the reasonable ones names.
We can question guys on here all we want about prices. The fact is this site is 1/10th of 1% of the mongers who go to these places.
All the Asian businessman, Russian, Australian, etc, tourists could give a shit about this. Most come, want a quick fuck and don't care much about the cost, and leave.
I don't think a few guys on here are the problem. We can try to educate as much as possible. But Pattaya is now a huge family, global tourist spot and will continue to be so I believe.
Prices for pussy will more than likely go up. Costa Rica is a good example of this. It was cheap 10 years ago. Now, all those Chicas want $100 for a 20 minute, covered, mechanical fuck.
Prices will probably go way up if they bring in gambling. So think about getting it now while it is still reasonable.
JesseJames
02-09-13, 03:40
It's been 500 for way too long. 1000 Bt. Is here to stay. Just pay and stop crying.
FruitNinja
02-09-13, 04:30
We can question guys on here all we want about prices. The fact is this site is 1/10th of 1% of the mongers who go to these places.
All the Asian businessman, Russian, Australian, etc, tourists could give a shit about this. Most come, want a quick fuck and don't care much about the cost, and leave.
I don't think a few guys on here are the problem. We can try to educate as much as possible. But Pattaya is now a huge family, global tourist spot and will continue to be so I believe.
Prices for pussy will more than likely go up. Costa Rica is a good example of this. It was cheap 10 years ago. Now, all those Chicas want $100 for a 20 minute, covered, mechanical fuck.
Prices will probably go way up if they bring in gambling. So think about getting it now while it is still reasonable.Agreed.
I've said it before, these $$ discussions are useless other than a reference of what can be had. There are so many factors. Our small little group is not going to sway worldwide economics. I had one girl on beach road tell me "you want pretty? 1000 baht, you want ugly. 500." One factor.
How are you going to compete with a Thai manufacturer wining and dining a US customer looking to spend millions? I saw this the other night at Baccara, Thai guy negotiating for an American. Both clearly businessmen. A friend of mine buys electronic equipment from Korea. He gets girls delivered to the room every night. I don't think Korea is cheap for P4P otherwise Koreans wouldn't be in AC. This is just a small example. And believe it or not even in this economy there are plenty of guys with tall bank. I spent two days with a girl from Baccara, she had texts coming in all day. Some Japanese guy that works for Honda. I'm sure it's expensed. She thought it was funny and annoying how much he chased her.
I partied with a guy that handed all his money to a bar girl he had already barfined and was just hanging around drinking with her, paying lady drinks for her, her friends, the mamasans and anyone else that was around. His girl was handling all his money "she makes sure I don't get overcharged." I almost busted out laughing. You want to compete with that guy? Better bring some cash. He rang that bell a lot.
These girls are all walking around with iPhone 5s and Gucci knock off bags. Knock off yes, but they know what's going on in the world economy. They see guys throwing around huge money. Their bar girl friends tell tall tales of huge money spent by customers. My little spinner had a phone full of customers and she'd only been in town for a few months. She even had her own place. Nice place to boot.
The prices everywhere are going up. And not just girls, everything. I used to be a regular in the FSU countries but now I can get cheaper at home. Actually had a dev at home a few months ago. She was a cast aside import that needed a little cash.
The days of the secret destinations are over. The internet took care of that. You could always do Africa if that appeals to you or you don't care for your safety. You can maximize what you get as I did last night. Barfined from Nana after 12 and got a few hours, few pops for ST. The girl hadn't been pulled and it was getting late. No way to do more than one ST so she was open to negotiations. 1500 baht for 2 hours is not bad. Good performance.
Beach road is 500, period. Pulled 2 girls from there last month. One was 22, one was 23. Both were pretty and slim. One had firm little perky tits, the other had unforeseen saggy mom tits. Good performance from both. Neither was anything near ugly, though I had to walk a bit to find them. Got their numbers for future visits. One asked 700 to counter my 500, said no and she came with me anyway and was quite cheerful.
If you're going to pay 1000 might as well go to Soi 6; more choices, get the room included and more safety since it's connected to a bar.
Mr Enternational
02-09-13, 07:12
If you're going to pay 1000 might as well go to Soi 6; more choices, get the room included and more safety since it's connected to a bar.Or the discos where 1000 is for LT.
Looking for a good BJ, been in cambo where those are hard (impossible?) to find.
Can anyone recommend a girl at any establishment that can give a nice soft slow one? I don't like hard and fast to make me cum ASAP.
Also looking to do a soapie but am on a budget, what are some of the cheaper soapie options and how much would they cost? I'm sure the girls won't be as hot as these places but if I check a few out I'm sure I can find something I like.
Thanks
Or the discos where 1000 is for LT.But then you have to deal with crowds of disgusting sweaty drunk tourists from the various armpits of the world and terrible club music (that originated in New York's underground homosexual scene) at blaring levels. No thanks.
Pretty easy to take a girl from a beer bar for 1000 LT too if you play your cards right. Especially easy if you've already developed a relationship with them. There are some real pigs in the beer bars, but there are also some gems. Sometimes it's unbelievable.
Took a 19 year old from Soi 8 last time in town. Went to a movie, went home and did our thing three times. She said "up to me" for the money, only had 500 baht on me so said I'd have to go to ATM. No no no she demanded. Just give me the 500. Even taking that she wanted to make sure I had enough money for a motodop to get to the ATM! Incredibly kind and makes me wonder what the guys are always talking about with the "hardened Thai hooker" stuff. Must be something I'm missing. I can understand from some go gos like Bacara though. They are hardcore.
I've had a lot of experiences like this (including a few girls from the beer bars and even one from Soi 6) who refused to take ANY money at all after staying a day or two with me, but usually don't mention them because I don't think it'd be helpful and most people probably wouldn't believe me anyway.
Looking for a good BJ, been in cambo where those are hard (impossible?) to find.
Can anyone recommend a girl at any establishment that can give a nice soft slow one? I don't like hard and fast to make me cum ASAP.
Also looking to do a soapie but am on a budget, what are some of the cheaper soapie options and how much would they cost? I'm sure the girls won't be as hot as these places but if I check a few out I'm sure I can find something I like.
ThanksAre you Foxehunters?
You seem to just throw out questions with no reason.
Are you really in Pattaya?
Are you Foxehunters?
You seem to just throw out questions with no reason.
Are you really in Pattaya?Every board has there conspiracy theorists.
No I'm in on Pattaya, but I will be at the end of the month.
What do you mean with no reason? Obviously my reason is because I would like to get my dick sucked well and do a soapie.
Has anybody used the VIP bus by devils den from Bangkok to Pattaya, or vica versa? I'm staying in Bangkok and I was just going to take a taxi to Pattaya (does anyone know how much that would be? Nana plaza area to marriott area Pattaya). And I saw that devils den does a bus with two girls for you during the ride for 14000. Kinda pricey. Anybody recommend it?
Can anyone recommend a girl at any establishment that can give a nice soft slow one? I don't like hard and fast to make me cum ASAP.All you have to do is make your likes and dislikes known to the mamasan / papasan who talks to you when you go to any of these places. I'm sure they will be happy to instruct the girl accordingly.
Regards,
BJ
Has anybody used the VIP bus by devils den from Bangkok to Pattaya, or vica versa? I'm staying in Bangkok and I was just going to take a taxi to Pattaya (does anyone know how much that would be? Nana plaza area to marriott area Pattaya). And I saw that devils den does a bus with two girls for you during the ride for 14000. Kinda pricey. Anybody recommend it?Never heard of this Devil's Den pleasure ride but 14, 000 does seem a lot to pay. I took a taxi from Bangkok to Pattaya and it came to 1, 200 which was via the meter and also during Songkran. Cheaper options are Bus from Ekkami to Pattaya or mini-bus from Victory Monument, both around 100 baht. Personally I prefer the Victory Monument choice or split a taxi fare with a friend.
Regards,
BJ
This happened last night. As stated, bit worried about the action on Walking Street. Yesterday texted gal who I knew before. She lives not too far from Secrets. Bit dopey, but really nice tits and ass. Basic communication just hard with these gals. And when she calls me, do not understand a word she says, partly because she a bar gal (who does not work in a bar) and partly because it just noisy outside.
Texted her a few times, and communication near impossible. So, walked to Family Mart and saw what I call a "moving bus" (for those who do not know, a moving bus is gal going to meet a friend or walking around somewhere: If you miss one another soon comes around.) Anyway, there was something I found extremely attractive about her. Suspect it was her big tits. OK, I can state with 100 percent certainty it was big tits.
Approach.
Popper: "I love you."
Popper: "You go with me."
She: 1000 baht.
Popper: I love you 700 baht.
She: OK.
Off we go. Excited about this gal since her tits, and a gorgeous ass. And, then comes the text from the original gal: "I now at your hotel. When you here."
Crap.
Even tho original gal is really nice also, this gal had bigger tits. Too late. Nothing to do. Let gal go. Should have taken her cell number, but didn't. Basically gal I had was nice, even tho quite ding-dong.
So, tonight at about 10:PM went on the hunt. And yes, my price for ST is 700 plus tip, so flame me all you like. If I had the power, would close down each and every bar beer and go-go throughout Pattaya. Sick of them. Hate um. Let all the gal go freelance. Give the cash directly to the gals, and screw all those damn overpriced drinks, LDs, smokefilled rooms, loud music, pushy bouncers, playing connect-four, and no more bar fines.
Still a bit apprehensive of finding action. Had the dinner of champions, the 40 baht 1/4 chicken and 7/11 water and began the hunt. W / in less than 10 minutes found a great moving bus. 27 years and frigging beautiful white skin and nice tits. Too pretty. She lives near Big C and sells clothes somewhere that area. Great. Off to hotel.
In the sack really less than spectacular. Unshaved. Whine, whine, whine,"I no give you smoke, you too big, you take too long, the room too hot, bla bla bla." However, what a gorgeous ass! No pictures, and if I took one she would have freaked out. Anyway, gave her the 700 and no tip.
Stated below is danger of something getting stolen. Nearly all the gals are honest, and down stairs they take the ID card. After countless FLs since figure 1998, never a major problem. Only one gal three or four years ago freaked out and after two minutes entering my room and immediately demanded 500 baht to leave. She locked her self in my bathroom and broke my electronic toothbrush and kicked a door. And no, she did not get any cash from me. That said, always prepare the room properly. Locking the closet door with that red thing or some chain / lock essential (see picture). Certainly it not unbreakable, but alerts me if she attempt to steal anything.
--Popper
Stated below is danger of something getting stolen. After countless gals, at present never a major problem. Nearly all the gals are honest, and down stairs they take the I'd card. After countless FLs, one gal three or four years ago freaked out and after two minutes entering my room and immediately demanded 500 baht to leave. She locked her self in my bathroom and broke my electronic toothbrush and kicked a door. And no, she did not get any cash from me. That said, always prepare the room properly. Locking the closet door with that red thing or some chain / lock essential (see picture). Certainly it not unbreakable, but alerts me if she attempt to steal anything.
-PopperPopper, while I agree with you that most of the girls I've met have been honest, I also think you're right to think ahead and be smart. So, thanks for the suggestion of the lock on the closet door. I'll definitely bring a similar lock when I visit this summer.
Has anybody used the VIP bus by devils den from Bangkok to Pattaya, or vica versa? I'm staying in Bangkok and I was just going to take a taxi to Pattaya (does anyone know how much that would be? Nana plaza area to marriott area Pattaya). And I saw that devils den does a bus with two girls for you during the ride for 14000. Kinda pricey. Anybody recommend it?I paid 1200 taxi also.
I would recommend you not take the DD ride.
Never heard of this Devil's Den pleasure ride but 14, 000 does seem a lot to pay. I took a taxi from Bangkok to Pattaya and it came to 1, 200 which was via the meter and also during Songkran. Cheaper options are Bus from Ekkami to Pattaya or mini-bus from Victory Monument, both around 100 baht. Personally I prefer the Victory Monument choice or split a taxi fare with a friend.
Regards,
BJIt is a stretch SUV with a private back that comes with drinks and two women who will pleasure you along the ride. I took it once. It was worth the experience, but wouldn't repeat unless money was no object. And 14,000 is only if you let them pick the girls. It's 18,000 if you pick them.
A regular cab from the downstairs taxi stand at BKK to Pattaya is 1080 baht as of two weeks ago, same as it's been for some time. All tolls included.
It is a stretch SUV with a private back that comes with drinks and two women who will pleasure you along the ride. I took it once. It was worth the experience, but wouldn't repeat unless money was no object. And 14, 000 is only if you let them pick the girls. It's 18, 000 if you pick them.
A regular cab from the downstairs taxi stand at BKK to Pattaya is 1080 baht as of two weeks ago, same as it's been for some time. All tolls included.As he said, he is going from Nana not the airport. So 1200 is more accurate.
Nearly all the gals are honest, and down stairs they take the ID card.You can also ask hotel security / front desk to call your room to confirm everything is ok before giving her back her I'd card. A small tip works wonders here. But personally I would not book a hotel without a safe in the room for your smaller valuables like money, passport, electronics, ect.
SunLover
It is a stretch SUV with a private back that comes with drinks and two women who will pleasure you along the ride. I took it once. It was worth the experience, but wouldn't repeat unless money was no object. And 14, 000 is only if you let them pick the girls. It's 18, 000 if you pick them.
A regular cab from the downstairs taxi stand at BKK to Pattaya is 1080 baht as of two weeks ago, same as it's been for some time. All tolls included.So. 14000 for the first class ride and 108 for the economy ride. The idea of the DD is appealing but with 12920 baht you can have hell of fun when you arrive. Just hold the horniness for a couple of hours and the fun can begin with nearly 13k in the pocket to spend: lot of mileage ahead.
So. 14000 for the first class ride and 108 for the economy ride. The idea of the DD is appealing but with 12920 baht you can have hell of fun when you arrive. Just hold the horniness for a couple of hours and the fun can begin with nearly 13k in the pocket to spend: lot of mileage ahead.Wise shopping and that is 26 beach Road fucks. That is potentially 2 weeks of ass for a limo ride with a script?
But I hate Devil's Den anyway so would never have interest.
You can also ask hotel security / front desk to call your room to confirm everything is ok before giving her back her I'd card. A small tip works wonders here. But personally I would not book a hotel without a safe in the room for your smaller valuables like money, passport, electronics, ect.
SunLoverI agree, but I think there is no sure thing. Had my room safe opened in Vietnam. Of course they look at you like you are crazy.
Remember, there is a universal code for that safe. Just incase you forget your code and they need to open it. Usually only the GM of the hotel claims to have it.
Whatever.
I agree, but I think there is no sure thing. Had my room safe opened in Vietnam. Of course they look at you like you are crazy.
Remember, there is a universal code for that safe. Just incase you forget your code and they need to open it. Usually only the GM of the hotel claims to have it.
Whatever.You have to put the key in to open it without the customer-set code. That's why they have that silver sticker over the key hole that says "if you remove this you have to pay xxx". Usually no one but the highest management has access to that key, even in dumps.
Tony Hoeprano
02-12-13, 07:59
Never heard of this Devil's Den pleasure ride but 14, 000 does seem a lot to pay. I took a taxi from Bangkok to Pattaya and it came to 1, 200 which was via the meter and also during Songkran. Cheaper options are Bus from Ekkami to Pattaya or mini-bus from Victory Monument, both around 100 baht. Personally I prefer the Victory Monument choice or split a taxi fare with a friend.
Regards,
BJTo each his own, but those mini buses are death traps. The buses aren't much better at least if you sit in the back you got a better chance of living if the driver falls asleep or a tire blows out. And the crazy mini bus drivers many of them don't care if they live or die by the way they drive, or have failed in their quest to become a NASCAR driver
To each his own, but those mini buses are death traps. The buses aren't much better at least if you sit in the back you got a better chance of living if the driver falls asleep or a tire blows out. And the crazy mini bus drivers many of them don't care if they live or die by the way they drive, or have failed in their quest to become a NASCAR driverCompletely agree on the dangers of Thai roads and the driving skills. Unfortunately we can't fly to Patts so until we can we have to take our chances on the roads.
Regards,
BJ
JesseJames
02-12-13, 13:00
To each his own, but those mini buses are death traps. The buses aren't much better at least if you sit in the back you got a better chance of living if the driver falls asleep or a tire blows out. And the crazy mini bus drivers many of them don't care if they live or die by the way they drive, or have failed in their quest to become a NASCAR driverI hate mini buses. You're packed in like a sardine. They have the nerve to charge an extra fare for your bag. The driver of the big bus from Ekami is not going to fall asleep on a 2 hour drive and those big tires are unlikely to blow out.
JesseJames
02-12-13, 13:03
I agree, but I think there is no sure thing. Had my room safe opened in Vietnam. Of course they look at you like you are crazy.
Remember, there is a universal code for that safe. Just incase you forget your code and they need to open it. Usually only the GM of the hotel claims to have it.
Whatever.The serious money, passport and cc should be at the front desk safe.
Tony,
Are taxi drivers on BKK pat highway any better?
I personally never take taxis in asia and prefer trains or big buses.
But it looks the first class buses take close to 4 hours for 145 km trip.
Would live to share a taxi if someone is planning to go to patts from BKK around feb 20.
To each his own, but those mini buses are death traps. The buses aren't much better at least if you sit in the back you got a better chance of living if the driver falls asleep or a tire blows out. And the crazy mini bus drivers many of them don't care if they live or die by the way they drive, or have failed in their quest to become a NASCAR driver
Tony,
Are taxi drivers on BKK pat highway any better?
I personally never take taxis in asia and prefer trains or big buses.
But it looks the first class buses take close to 4 hours for 145 km trip.
Would live to share a taxi if someone is planning to go to patts from BKK around feb 20.You can try going to the Taxi stand and asking someone to share.
I have met guys in line and started up a conversation and shared to Sukhumvit.
I had a crazy driver get me to Pats in a little over an hour one time. I think he lost money because at 100 mph, he was burning gas big time.
If you do take a taxi to Pattaya (which I always do) make sure you keep an eye on the fuckers. Watch them in the interior rear view mirror if you have too. I have had 3 start to fall asleep on me and almost crash.
Tony,
Are taxi drivers on BKK pat highway any better?
I personally never take taxis in asia and prefer trains or big buses.
But it looks the first class buses take close to 4 hours for 145 km trip.
Would live to share a taxi if someone is planning to go to patts from BKK around feb 20.Trains and buses in Asia unfortunately have similar safety records outside of Japan.
You can tell any taxi driver to slow down and they will do it. Have had to ask myself before. They're no worse than cabbies in NYC though.
Completely agree on the dangers of Thai roads and the driving skills. Unfortunately we can't fly to Patts so until we can we have to take our chances on the roads.
Regards,
BJIt would be great if they ran some rail down there. The Thai train system is actually pretty good, a nice choice when going north or east of Bangkok.
Very good advice. I am sure we all can recite our own examples of taxi drivers falling a sleep. Last month when I took a car from Suk / Soi 19 to Pattaya (1000bt) I was on full alert. One can tell when one sees the driver, open the window, turns the radio up, squirms in the drivers seat. In this case I told him I needed a toilet stop. Really did not need same but wanted this guy to collect his wits.
SNIPPED.
If you do take a taxi to Pattaya (which I always do) make sure you keep an eye on the fuckers. Watch them in the interior rear view mirror if you have too. I have had 3 start to fall asleep on me and almost crash.
Key Master
02-13-13, 04:23
I agree, but I think there is no sure thing. Had my room safe opened in Vietnam. Of course they look at you like you are crazy.
Remember, there is a universal code for that safe. Just incase you forget your code and they need to open it. Usually only the GM of the hotel claims to have it.
Whatever.I agree here that nothing is a sure thing. I know that the two key safety box thing is bull. My friends and I had money siphoned out of them before. I was the only the one to notice at the time and they didn't say anything. I was in China and couldn't speak the language. They realized that they were skimmed a few bills here and there after the fact. In room safes should not be considered safe safe. They can be opened with keys and can also be opened through something called "bumping". Look it up on youtube or something. I think for most part, you have to worry about employees with access to the safes in regards to skimming. I don't like to put everything in the safe, but have to put some in there. I use a lockable bag to keep my valuables in that I don't want to take a chance on. I figure if they are just looking to skim a bill or two here and there, they ain't going to bother with someone like me and go through the trouble. If they were going to rob me outright, it doesn't matter what I do in that regard otherwise.
FruitNinja
02-13-13, 04:58
I agree, but I think there is no sure thing. Had my room safe opened in Vietnam. Of course they look at you like you are crazy.
Remember, there is a universal code for that safe. Just incase you forget your code and they need to open it. Usually only the GM of the hotel claims to have it.
Whatever.I think next time I will take a bank bag and rig it so I can put a small padlock on it. Just checked my money. One month. 7 cities, nothing skimmed, nothing stolen.
Thing I did find annoying in Pats was they played limit games at ATMs. I emailed my banker that I was having problems and he said that it was set at $400 but he raised it to $2500. I went to the Central Festival Mall and there were a lot of banks on the 4th floor. Tried many. Only one let me take more than 10K at a time. The others all blamed it on the issuing bank which was bs. Just a way to get more fees.
JesseJames
02-13-13, 11:43
Tony,
Are taxi drivers on BKK pat highway any better?
I personally never take taxis in asia and prefer trains or big buses.
But it looks the first class buses take close to 4 hours for 145 km trip.
Would live to share a taxi if someone is planning to go to patts from BKK around feb 20.The first class bus is about 2 hours
The driver of the big bus from Ekami is not going to fall asleep on a 2 hour drive and those big tires are unlikely to blow out.What makes the drivers of the Ekami bus less likely to fall asleep at the wheel than a minibus driver from Victory Monument? Aren't all vehicle tyres made from rubber and set to a particular PSI? I have personally seen very big lorry tyres blow out right in front of me in various parts of the world.
Regards,
BJ
http://www.pattayaconcierge.com/information/transportation-to-pattaya.php
http://www.pattayaconcierge.com/information/transportation-to-pattaya.phpRight on time bro, just what I needed. My hotel wanted 1800 but Mr T taxi wanted 1000, so I was a little confused by the big difference. That post helped me understand better.
Crocodilexp
02-13-13, 17:55
It would be great if they ran some rail down there. The Thai train system is actually pretty good, a nice choice when going north or east of Bangkok.There is a train, actually. It departs Hualampong bit before 7 am and arrives to Pattaya around noon.
What makes the drivers of the Ekami bus less likely to fall asleep at the wheel than a minibus driver from Victory Monument? Aren't all vehicle tyres made from rubber and set to a particular PSI? I have personally seen very big lorry tyres blow out right in front of me in various parts of the world.
Regards,
BJBecause of the cost the back tires (usually not the front for obvious reasons) of those lorries are recycled-new treads are added to an old tire-
You can see that when they blow and disintegrate.
Right on time bro, just what I needed. My hotel wanted 1800 but Mr T taxi wanted 1000, so I was a little confused by the big difference. That post helped me understand better.Mr T taxi?
Very good advice. I am sure we all can recite our own examples of taxi drivers falling a sleep. Last month when I took a car from Suk / Soi 19 to Pattaya (1000bt) I was on full alert. One can tell when one sees the driver, open the window, turns the radio up, squirms in the drivers seat. In this case I told him I needed a toilet stop. Really did not need same but wanted this guy to collect his wits.
(My first post of this story got screwed up somehow. Here is a more coherent re-post. Apologies for the clutter)
Calling a timeout to stop at a toilet with the intention of keeping the driver awake was a good move.
When traveling from Bangkok to Pattaya I've never used the mini-buses or the "Monger Express" from Ekami but I have taken both buses and mini-buses from Pattaya to other parts of the country. Last summer I made a decision to follow my "Simon II Bar Beer Complex" bar girl back home to Issan for some meeting, greeting, and bug eating inter-mixed with consuming mystery meat from the local market and bottles of gut-rot Lao Khao with her extended family in Surin. We took a bus leaving close to midnight from Pattaya for the 10 hour ride to Prasat. Can't really say too many negatives about the bus. It was clean, efficient, and on time. A few scheduled stops along the way to pick up additional passengers in other cities and for toilet and snacks but each stop was timed and were no more than 15 minutes it felt. The company switched drivers at a scheduled stop about halfway through the trip at about 3:30am. The worst part of the trip was a DVD of some hour long Thai Talk show involving some fat Thai lady whining and screaming at the top of her uvula at all of the males on the show. The volume was loud and the show was repeatedly looped for about 4 hours. The driving was rapid per the usual in Thailand but my spider-sense didn't tingle too often, but then again wrecking the bus would have at least stopped that damn talk show.
My actual stay in Issan was a trip of a trip for sure. I know many of you have made this journey into the Heart of Darkness so I won't go into that here but at some point a decision was made to not take the bus but to take a mini-bus back to Pattaya. So at 10pm the mini-bus (which is just really a larger mini-van) teeters and totters up to the front of her family shack on 3 full wheels and 1 wheel that looked like it belonged on a Hotwheel. Her uncles convened on the issue in their Cambodian dialect. Her dad wound up taking one of the wheels off of his carbon dated truck (the only wheel that fossil had by the way) and selling it to the mini-bus driver. Her dad kept the Hotwheel to go tubing with later (who knows). While the wheels were being switched one of the uncles offered the mini-bus driver a couple of shots of Lao Khao. He declined and stated that he had his own and proceeded to pull out a mostly empty bottle of that 1000 proof stuff from under his dashboard for a few upturns. My only thoughts to that were to look up at the sky and say to myself "My Father, who art in Heaven. Hollow be thy name. Thy Kingdom come." Was interrupted from finishing my sinners last resort to heaven by my bar girl leaping into the mini-bus for the trip.
The seats were large but still managed to be stiff and uncomfortable at the same time. The schedule was quite unpredictable in that the driver had to pick up 2 others who were not exactly on the way. This was a negative compared to the bus which had predictable scheduled stops. Anyway, we ended up picking up a girl of about 18 as one of the pickups. She sobbed as loudly as she did uncontrollably in the the last row for what seemed like hours. My bar girl comforted her for a bit and later explained to me that she was leaving Issan and her family for the first time to go work in Pattaya. I would spend just about the rest of the trip trying to devise a way to figure out what bar she was destined for and slip her 300 baht for a down payment on a bar fine first thing when we got back to Pattaya. I was not successful. Guess I'm just more of a scoundrel than I am clever. We also picked up another guy who wound up sitting in the front passenger seat.
The drive was cool until the driver started winking at about 1am. That winking soon turned to nodding. The nodding turned to almost swerving the vehicle on to the shoulder into a bank of trees. I saw the distress of the driver and I leaned forward to sternly express to him my concern but my girl held me back citing face for the driver as the reason. Shouldn't criticize. During the next hour we hit about 3 police check points. Me being Farang, it was my first time being grateful to run into these here as each check point woke the driver up. Though I was afraid that I may lose that 300 baht that I had curled up in my hand in my pocket, that was destined for my future short time with missy there in the backseat, to a bribe to the boys in tight brown who were now flashing a light in my face through the window of the mini-bus. No bribe was requested. Soon after the last check point the driver was nodding again. I leaned forward again but with a different tactic in mind. In my broken Thai I asked him if he was a Manchester United fan. Me being American, and African-American at that, I don't know the slightest about non-American futbol but I figured all other males across this planet would. He perked up and we talked futbol for a while keeping him awake. My girl translated as the conversation got deeper. When that dog stopped hunting I started complimenting the King which brought another smile to his face as it does a lot of Thais in my limited experience. I was ready to keep this guy awake thereby keeping myself alive. Girl in the back is sobbing again. Now where is my 300 baht?
We stopped at a rest stop. I continued my face-saving for him tactic of smiling and talking to him as opposed to harshly criticizing his transporting passengers on a Hotwheel while drinking Lao Khao and drowsy. I offered him a coffee for this reason. My girl said he didn't drink coffee but he accepted anyway in order to save face for me from his perspective by not rejecting me. Trying to do things the local way to get out of this one. I kept him up with coffee and conversation. We ended up dropping dude in the passenger seat off in a town waaaaay off from Pattatya so the trip took an extra 2 hours. The Issan Princess in the back got off at Beach Road minus my indecent proposal. We eventually made it back to Tim Boutique Hotel just off of 2nd Road and Soi 12, just behind Nid Bar 2005. My girl left on her motorbike that she had kept parked at the hotel garage. She didn't have a helmet as the parking attendant had let his friend use her helmet because he didn't think she was coming back so soon. Thailand right?
I wound up using that $300 baht on a short time at "Up To You" Bar on Soi 6 less than 10 minutes later.
I had lived to hobby another day in the one and true Sin City.
Very good advice. I am sure we all can recite our own examples of taxi drivers falling a sleep. Last month when I took a car from Suk / Soi 19 to Pattaya (1000bt) I was on full alert. One can tell when one sees the driver, open the window, turns the radio up, squirms in the drivers seat. In this case I told him I needed a toilet stop. Really did not need same but wanted this guy to collect his wits.Had same behaviour from a taxi driver in Shangai. In addition to above moves he also slapped his face cheeks. Scaring. Luckily we nearly arrived, but a few meters are enough for an accident. I know.
Mr Enternational
02-15-13, 07:13
What makes the drivers of the Ekami bus less likely to fall asleep at the wheel than a minibus driver from Victory Monument? Aren't all vehicle tyres made from rubber and set to a particular PSI? I have personally seen very big lorry tyres blow out right in front of me in various parts of the world.You got me. I guess it's just something else guys want to be afraid about now. I have been riding in vehicles since I was born 41 years ago and this is the first time I can remember that people are saying hey make sure the driver does not fall asleep. As if everyday the highway is piled up with cars of drivers who have fallen asleep and had accidents. So why not worry about drivers who may fall asleep in other vehicles while we are at it? Just drive down the highway honking the horn to be sure everyone stays awake.
because of the cost the back tires (usually not the front for obvious reasons) of those lorries are recycled-new treads are added to an old tire-
you can see that when they blow and disintegrate.common practice around the world, including the united states. next time you drive down a highway in the states take a look at all the retreads that have peeled off laying on the side of the road. usually a rate of 1-2 per mile.
Mr T taxi?Yes, google it he has a website. I'm not going to say anything about his service because I've gone in another direction. My coming report will fill in the blanks, take care.
Can anyone recommend a good place / dentist in Pattaya. I would like to have my teeth whitened.
Thank you.
Can anyone recommend a good place / dentist in Pattaya. I would like to have my teeth whitened.
Thank you.I know you want a recommendation.
Just for info, there are 100's of those places in Bangkok. Many in and around Sukhumvit advertising.
Here are a few. I went to the Suk 21 place one time for a minor problem and they were decent.
http://www.dentaldepartures.com/dentists/search/?procedure=Laser+Teeth+Whitening&location=Bangkok%2C+Thailand&sort=
Also, if you search Teeth whiteneing in BKK you get many hits.
Scorchin1470
02-16-13, 02:14
Also, if you search Teeth whiteneing in BKK you get many hits.Be careful, very careful and only go to atop class provider. Much can go wrong.
Can anyone recommend a good place / dentist in Pattaya. I would like to have my teeth whitened.
Thank you.Some of the P4P ladies in Pattaya go to dentists to improve the looks of their teeth. They and their friends are the ones to ask what place is the best to go to. Because they gossip with each other, and they know better than any farang would know.
LittleBigMan
02-16-13, 17:53
I will not give you a recommendation since your question was for Pattaya. In Pattaya like so many places you will see signs at many establishments giving a discount. If you are a short time visitor you won't know that the discount is actually no discount at all! You would know that if you stay here long enough this is common for nearly everythng you want to buy? Dental whitening is around 4, 000 to 6, 000 baht.
I use this place for my dental care for the last few years although the prices have been going up each time I go in I give the ladies a hard time when I check the prices that I'm Thai now and I start to negotiate the work. I don't get much off just a habit I have with trying to test them and get the best bang for my baht.
Going up Pattaya Klang, pass the Big C extra and Food land on the left hand side. There is a place call Dental Idea, the front is all glass and orange lettering!
Good luck,
I've used Mr. T for several years and had no real issues with his service. Pretty much on time. Though I have gravitated to another guy. He had picked me up from being out sourced (which is the usual case) from Mr. T. PM me if you want his email address.
Mr T taxi?
I've used Mr. T for several years and had no real issues with his service. Pretty much on time. Though I have gravitated to another guy. He had picked me up from being out sourced (which is the usual case) from Mr. T. PM me if you want his email address.Based on Mr. Gogo's experience, details TK, the motto must be "I pity the fool!"
OK, sorry, could not resist.
Based on Mr. Gogo's experience, details TK, the motto must be "I pity the fool!"
OK, sorry, could not resist.My history is in latin and South America, this is my first Thailand visit since my Navy Westpac days 25 years ago. I made a deal with Mr E if he hangs out in the DR with me in 2012 that Thailand would be 2013. He lived up to his part of the deal so I'm living up to my end of the deal. But let me say that I'm very excited. I have nothing bad to say about Mr Ts taxi, I just found another way.
The "Gogo Forum" is more a freelance thread where any topic except religon and politics are in play. I really don't want to clog up this forum with my long boring reports so I invite everyone to visit the "Gogo forum" for the Thailand posts. So I guess you can say Mr Gogo is going to be a newbie again. Thanks again to my buddies Tomjackin and Mr E for all the pre-trip info, good shit guys. To the guys in the Thailand thread please feel free to bust my chops, Gogo is a nice guy these days so it's all good. Peace.
Mr Enternational
02-17-13, 02:04
I was taking a brother from the board around last night and noticed that all the soapies have remodeled and likewise all the prices have gone up. All of them are now open air, with no glass / fishbowl. The lowest price was I think 2000 at Honey 2 and by far the best looking girls were at Sabai Room. Sabai Dee has combined their two previous sections into one place, although they do still have the two tiers of girls sitting separate. I also noticed that each place had more girls than I had ever seen in them.
NspectHerGadgt
02-18-13, 10:23
This post gets lost quickly in all the meaningless drivel about egos on here. But here goes.
Last week I wasted a bar fine, drinks, and dinner on a gal named Sherry from Black Pagoda in Patpong. She's the tall, slender, chop-stick (about 5'10" without the heels.) We left out of there, had a good time on the town for a little while, but that's not what I paid her for. At the hotel, she was a non-performer. Tried to turn away from kissing, no oral action, and lackluster FS (if you can even call it that.) And wanted to leave at 3am from our "Long Time" agreement. Hmmm, wonder why she wanted the money up-front? Of course, I didn't fall for that! There's other good talent at Black Pagoda, so just pass on this one.
Lets talk vasectomies, I've asked on a couple forums and the only recommendation I've been given is that the best combo of service and value would be given at Pattaya memorial hospital for roughly $300-$400
Does this sound like a good place to go for that operation? Anyone have any experiences getting one in Pattaya? Know of another place that might be better?
Thanks if anyone can help
Does this sound like a good place to go for that operation?I suspect it's fine. That's the usual kind of jacked-up Pattaya price, but still probably cheaper than PIH or Bangkok Hospital Pattaya.
I had mine done at Mechai's public clinic on Sukhumwit Soi 12 in Bangkok. They supposedly do more of them than anywhere else in Thailand. It's the no-scalpel technique, though a bit crude with the anesthesia. It's free, including even the drugs they give you to take home. I offered a donation and they said, well, we don't take them but here's a box for a charity for orphans you can put it in.
Both the Bangkok post and the nation had articles on thai made viagra-I think is called Sidagra.
Has any body found it- bought it- tried it? If so, where did you find it and how is it?
Hmmm, wonder why she wanted the money up-front? Of course, I didn't fall for that!From my experiences, that is a 100% verified flag that the girl is going to do something you don't like (such as leaving early or not doing what was agreed upon).
Mr Enternational
02-19-13, 15:58
Lets talk vasectomies, I've asked on a couple forums and the only recommendation I've been given is that the best combo of service and value would be given at Pattaya memorial hospital for roughly $300-$400
Does this sound like a good place to go for that operation? Anyone have any experiences getting one in Pattaya? Know of another place that might be better?I've been on that trail for the past week. I went to my doctor and he said it is a simple procedure and it would be cheaper to go to a government hospital. So the other day I went to Banglamung hospital. The doctor was out to lunch though. Since then I have had friends call and they said I would have to come in to talk to a doctor about it. My friend agreed that this is mainly so they know to charge you as a Thai or foreigner as is the case at Sri Racha hospital.
A friend also called a place she says the name is Practice Birth Control in Bangkok which she thought may be cheaper. She said there was no answer. Maybe because they are closed on Sundays.
She also called Meechai on Suk Soi 12 in BKK, as Betong mentioned. They said it is free but it depends on if the patient gives a donation. She said they wanted the birth certificates of any children I may have, but when she told them that info would be back in the USA they told her that I would need to go consult with the doctor first. Meechai is open Tue-Fri from 0830-1500. I will be in Bangkok next week so I may swing by there.
Bought it. Used it. Had same effect as Viagra (for me). KS Pharmacy which is a few steps from Soi 17 / Suk. Same side of the street as Robinson's. I need to add this was in BKK. Do not know where to get within Pattaya
Both the Bangkok post and the nation had articles on thai made viagra-I think is called Sidagra.
Has any body found it- bought it- tried it? If so, where did you find it and how is it?
Old New Guy
02-19-13, 17:54
three days ago went into insomnia. when going in the security guard really patted me down, and i do mean really patted me down. so much so he actually scraped my balls. pissed me off; i mean who does this guy think he is, a tsa agent?
-popperhahah, same story happened to me, must be about two years ago already. i told him i was not going to get back ever! your reports are great, keep it doing. i had to change nick too often, but i wrote a lot from practically all over the world.
LittleBigMan
02-19-13, 18:46
I suspect it's fine. That's the usual kind of jacked-up Pattaya price, but still probably cheaper than PIH or Bangkok Hospital Pattaya.
I had mine done at Mechai's public clinic on Sukhumwit Soi 12 in Bangkok. They supposedly do more of them than anywhere else in Thailand. It's the no-scalpel technique, though a bit crude with the anesthesia. It's free, including even the drugs they give you to take home. I offered a donation and they said, well, we don't take them but here's a box for a charity for orphans you can put it in.I in the past have thought about getting the little guy taken care of but after speaking to a few people who had it done even in the States " I heard although simple it hurts " I'm no pussy when it comes to pain ". I didn't know there was another procedure that is less evisive and maybe less painful?
Aside from the cost I curious as to why someone would want to do such a procedure while they were visiting Thailand. That would mean your little guy would be out of commission for majority of the trip?
LBM
Lets talk vasectomies, I've asked on a couple forums and the only recommendation I've been given is that the best combo of service and value would be given at Pattaya memorial hospital for roughly $300-$400
Does this sound like a good place to go for that operation? Anyone have any experiences getting one in Pattaya? Know of another place that might be better?
Thanks if anyone can helpMy suggestion would be to do it in BKK.
I had one experience at Pats Hosptial and it was not very good. Seemed low tech and unorganized to me.
Western787
02-20-13, 12:59
Aside from the cost I curious as to why someone would want to do such a procedure while they were visiting Thailand.
LBMThailand? Elective surgery in that area? I mean you could well wake up as a woman.
Hahah, same story happened to me, must be about two years ago already. I told him I was not going to get back ever! Your reports are great, keep it doing. I had to change nick too often, but I wrote a lot from practically all over the world.I rarely go to night clubs but I think I would prefer some guy brushing his hand against my balls safe in the knowledge there are no drunk, and or, emotional people carrying weapons.
Regards,
BJ
Met a real nice gal I would like to take to a bar type setting that has good music / videos. Use to take them to Tim Bar on 2nd Road, really liked their music and videos, but has since lost its appeal.
A nice place. Any suggestions?
Thank you.
That would mean your little guy would be out of commission for majority of the trip?Not a problem for me as I live here but yeah, it's the wrong kind of medical tourism for people with our hobby. Unless you did it your last day, and that might make for a slightly uncomfortable plane ride home.
Met a real nice gal I would like to take to a bar type setting that has good music / videos. Use to take them to Tim Bar on 2nd Road, really liked their music and videos, but has since lost its appeal.
A nice place. Any suggestions?
Thank you.You met a nice girl? Nice being she's good to you or she's a good girl? I would not take a "good / nice girl to a beer bar.
I am coming to Pattaya in 3 weeks – very excited and doubled my RTFF. And I have a fantasy that I can get to airport and after torturous passport control entry see a girl waiting for me (with the taxi behind). And then I can be hugged and massaged all the way to Pattaya.
The hotels offering such service ask for incredible amount of money!
One would think (newbie's view) that such a trip should be easy to organize: find a girl and ask her to pick you up and spend the rest of the day and night, let's say for 3000B all inclusive (taxi, girl and tips). But here is the problem: you need to know the girl who would not play tricks, who would trust you enough, and (!) has an appearance and manners so I like her not hate every minute in the taxi before kicking her out! So I know the risk, but still love my fantasy. I can not kick out of my memory the girl from.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1370206#post1370206
– maybe I would be willing to pay more for that candy.
Anyway, I would appreciate if someone can share ideas how to obtain such welcoming party.
Lastly – thank you everyone on this forum, even scientists – I enjoy every (even scientific) post.
Feel free to PM if willing to meet and share time.
Crazy4Thai
02-21-13, 15:09
Anyway, I would appreciate if someone can share ideas how to obtain such welcoming party.Your idea makes me think of the ads that I see on craigslist. You might arrange with an advertiser there or you could place your own ad. I also think you need to be sure what your price limit is. Money talks and 3, 000 baht including taxi might not be much incentive especially if that taxi is to Pattaya.
I suspect it's fine. That's the usual kind of jacked-up Pattaya price, but still probably cheaper than PIH or Bangkok Hospital Pattaya.
I had mine done at Mechai's public clinic on Sukhumwit Soi 12 in Bangkok. They supposedly do more of them than anywhere else in Thailand. It's the no-scalpel technique, though a bit crude with the anesthesia. It's free, including even the drugs they give you to take home. I offered a donation and they said, well, we don't take them but here's a box for a charity for orphans you can put it in.I read that its free correctly right? Free? As in you don't pay anything? And everything went well for you?
How long till you could boom boom again?
Money talks and 3, 000 baht including taxi might not be much incentive especially if that taxi is to Pattaya.Your point is well taken: too little money and too much complications if taxi is included. Do you think 3K baht for the girl to show up and ready to spend the night and I will hire the taxi to Pattaya in addition (and probably pay the meter around 1, 300 baht; correct me if I am wrong) is attractive enough?
Thanks for the tip.
Is it me or the shop keepers in Pattaya have become ruder?
Having never visited Pattaya for the past two years, I was there last week. I noticed most of the shop keepers were rude! In fact, I walked out of my favorite fast thai food joint after dealing with a waitress with a bad attitude.
They are impatient, do not care about service anymore, and a waiter even demanded a15% tip. WTF?
Mr Enternational
02-22-13, 14:09
I hit the first disco with some board members who are having their first trip to Pattaya. Everyone had paired up but we had to cut the girls loose in order to catch the sex show at Xzone. It was amazing as usual. Tomjackin it looks like things are back to normal there. At that place there is a 600 baht bar fine and 2000 baht for the girls.
We soon left to go to another disco and I guess it must have been closing time at Xzone as well because no sooner than we got to the disco 3 Xzone girls including Krazy Korean were hot on our heels. Just think 5 minutes ago they would have cost us 2600 but since they are in the disco 1000.
I reunited wih my girl from the disco earlier. She was a Nicki Minaj look-a-like. My wingmen reuntied with theirs as well. When it was time to go my girl wanted to talk money. She wanted 2000 and when I said 1000 she dropped to 1500 but would not budge from that. I ended up taking another girl who was showing interest in me.
Today one wingman said his girl did not want money but he gave her 1000 baht anyway. Another wingman said he forgot to give his girl money and she didn't ask (she was Nicki Minaj's friend). Of course I gave mine the customary 1000 this afternoon before I took her to her room.
I think I figured out mr e angle. He says he gets girls that cost 2o00 at their normal working place but 1000 at the disco. This is a prime example of is the girl really a 2000 girl-I think not as she prolly isn't getting a whole lot of action at that price.Guys, you are in the right track. 1000Bht far enough. Girls call me like crazy these days. There is only one reason:
Too many girls. Not enought falangs.
Happy mongering
WilliamStewart
02-23-13, 00:12
Quick question here.
Do all girls stay the night with you or is there a certain type who will?
Pray, tell, where would you take her.
You met a nice girl? Nice being she's good to you or she's a good girl? I would not take a "good / nice girl to a beer bar.
Quick question here.Do all girls stay the night with you or is there a certain type who will?Well, this is the basic of the whole action.
You pay them ST and they staty ST.
You pay them LT and they might stay till the morning / day after. But no guarantee soemtime as my friend does nto have the keys to into the flat","I have a kid and mom called me he is crying","I found out I have to go to the doctor at 9am and he is in BKK","I am feeling sick" blah blah. Just do not pay LT ahead or it will be a damned expensive ST you pay for. For the rest. Just RTFF
I did a search for Devils Den review on this thread and I could only find good reports about that place which are dated around 2009. Anyone has a recent experience? What pair's are the best? Is it worth the money paid?
I am not sure if its easy to pick 2 girls from beach road or walking street for a 3some back at my hotel. This would be cheaper then Devils Den however no gurantee of the service as they are FL's and might not be bisexual.
Regards,
A
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