Pattaya Reports

[WilliamStewart]

Well, this is the basic of the whole action.

You pay them ST and they staty ST.

You pay them LT and they might stay till the morning / day after. But no guarantee soemtime as my friend does nto have the keys to into the flat","I have a kid and mom called me he is crying","I found out I have to go to the doctor at 9am and he is in BKK","I am feeling sick" blah blah. Just do not pay LT ahead or it will be a damned expensive ST you pay for. For the rest. Just RTFFI'm going to be heading to Thailand for a few days later this year and I've read bits and pieces here and watched a few vids on YouTube to get an idea of things- does help seeing what Nana, Soi 6 etc are. A lot of posts to go through and most don't mention the basics.

So, putting it simply, what is the procedure for girls?

Are they all connected to a particular establishment or do they "freelance"?

Assume you see a girl of interest. What happens then or is expected to happen? Chatting, buy her a drink or two or three, mention massage then discuss cost?

Are you suppose to give them something up front then more later depending on how long they stay?

[Bt1011]

This place is a total ripoff as they advertise erotic massage only. They charge 1000 TBT for 90 minutes. The massage was terrible and she would only do 60 minutes. I should have known better when they charged more than 3X the going rate and wanted money up front.

The only thing erotic was the girl asking for more money for a hand job. STAY AWAY from Angie's located on the first parallel street behind Walking Street and spend your money elsewhere.

[Muf Diver]

This girl is a scammer. Her name is Nat, and she claims that she works for an insurance company. Met her at hotel lobby and she speaks good (almost) English. She talked me into meeting her "teacher" girlfriend after work. She will come along as the translator as her friend was not fluent in English.

She conned me into spending over 2000 bahts on her in the pretext of introducing her girlfriend who never showed up. Meanwhile, she had the most expensive meal at the restaurant, and several expensive drinks. While we were waiting for her friend to show up, she kept on talking / texting to her friend. She inquired about my financial status, income, etc, for which I gave her bogus information. She claimed she needed it so that she can sell me cheap insurance!

I did not pay much attention when she passed our meeting location (a casual, cheap place) to the expensive seafood joint next door. By the time I figured out that she was lying and just making me buy her expensive food / drinks, it was too late.

By the way, she did not want any money for her cupid services. All she wanted was a new phone (cost about $500) if I like the girl she was supposed to introduce to me. All along she appeared to be very professional wearing professional attire.

The next day she wanted to do it all over again. Also, I saw her talking to two 40+ tourists (appeared N. American) at the Holiday Inn lobby.

Beware of this scammer!

[TomJackin]

Tomjackin it looks like things are back to normal there. At that place there is a 600 baht bar fine and 2000 baht for the girls.It's about damn time the X-Zone got back to the nasty basics! Mr. G. Must be shell shocked!

[Mr Enternational]

She conned me into spending over 2000 bahts on her in the pretext of introducing her girlfriend who never showed up. Meanwhile, she had the most expensive meal at the restaurant, and several expensive drinks. While we were waiting for her friend to show up, she kept on talking / texting to her friend. She inquired about my financial status, income, etc, for which I gave her bogus information. She claimed she needed it so that she can sell me cheap insurance!Doesn't seem like a con to me. Seems like you offered to pay for refreshments for someone. If not, when it was time for the bill why didn't you ask for separate checks? Why would you need anyone to introduce you to a woman in Pattaya as much pussy as it is walking around here? (and a woman who doesn't even speak English when apparently you don't speak Thai.) And why in the hell would you need insurance here? I don't know what kind of insurance you were into, but I think I pay about $3 / year for the insurance on my motorbike. You could have rented a bike for damn near 1 month for 2000 baht. I've never even seen a meal here that costs 2000 baht. In a couple of hours I'm about to go eat lunch for 50 baht. Wake up dude, this ain't Kansas.

[Yiddo]

Unless you are young and good looking (in which case you don't need to monger) , why does anyone think a bargirl would want to sleep all night with them? In the past they did because they had less choice then. Today they just want short time business. You don't buy them meals, or phones, or clothes, or more than one drink. If you fancy them you offer the BF and 1.5 - 2k (in go-gos) for ST and that's it. Any girl who gives what is laughingly known as 'GFE' is only doing so because she thinks she won't get any other offers. Men who try to get lovey-dovey with bar girls are seen as pathetic, and they are.

[GreenBud]

I am not sure if its easy to pick 2 girls from beach road or walking street for a 3some back at my hotel. This would be cheaper then Devils Den however no gurantee of the service as they are FL's and might not be bisexual.It's definitely not easy to pick up 2 girls from Beach Road to do a 3-some. From my experiences asking the top half in terms of looks (i. e. Just ugly instead of really ugly) , most would not. Some said yes, but they wanted extra money. Everything is do-able if you keep asking.

Devil's Den would give you guranteed service.

Another option would be to go to the Go Go bars that has the lesbian shows and ask some of the girls there. That option wouldn't be cheap, but the girls might be a little bit cuter.

[BionicMan]

The next day she wanted to do it all over again. Also, I saw her talking to two 40+ tourists (appeared N. American) at the Holiday Inn lobby.

Beware of this scammer!A good way to earn some money without spreading her legs. Sufficient to grab one guy a day and she earns more than a WG

[Dan7373]

Unless you are young and good looking (in which case you don't need to monger) , why does anyone think a bargirl would want to sleep all night with them? In the past they did because they had less choice then. Today they just want short time business. You don't buy them meals, or phones, or clothes, or more than one drink. If you fancy them you offer the BF and 1.5 - 2k (in go-gos) for ST and that's it. Any girl who gives what is laughingly known as 'GFE' is only doing so because she thinks she won't get any other offers. Men who try to get lovey-dovey with bar girls are seen as pathetic, and they are.Some bar women hope to find a long-term boyfriend and possibly a husband for themselves. And they like going out for a long time with their customers.

The more time a woman spends with her guy, the better are her chances that he might stay even longer with her. And if she is hoping to find a permanent guy, then spending a long time with her guy is exactly what she wants.

And it's not only at bars. I've taken some women from Go-Go places. One of them was for short-time. And she kept asking me to take her out for long-time.

Perhaps not every woman wants to go for a long-time with her customers. But there are definitely women who want to do this at bars, Go-Go places, and even at massage parlors. I've gone for a long time with some women from a massage parlor, because they asked me to do it, and I liked them enough to do as they asked.

[Western787]

why does anyone think a bargirl would want to sleep all night with them?Because stay at 2 star hotel + cuddles all night + kiss all night + air conditioning = just like 5 star hotel to them + keep ghosts away. Even when on an extreme tight budget and have to stay at 1 star-only guest room above sleazy bar = they love too.

[Dante2]

I hit the first disco with some board members who are having their first trip to Pattaya. Everyone had paired up but we had to cut the girls loose in order to catch the sex show at Xzone. It was amazing as usual.More details on this please, where is x zone? What time is the show? Is it a lez show? Happen every night same time?

Thanks.

What other good lez shows are around that happen at the same time every night?


Not a problem for me as I live here but yeah, it's the wrong kind of medical tourism for people with our hobby. Unless you did it your last day, and that might make for a slightly uncomfortable plane ride home.This was about a vasectomy, how awful would it be to get one and then sit on a plane for 3 hours? And how many days till you can boom boom again?


Say you lt a girl at 11pm. You go back hotel have sex. What the hell do you do from say midnight to 4-5 in the morning when you get your second shot at sex (Who wants sex at 4am anyway. LOL). You can't tell me you all lovey dovey cuddling for that 5 hours.You really need 5 hours between boom booms?

Helps to explain why you are always such a cynical dbag in every one of your posts.

Just because hot girls won't go longtime with you doesn't mean they won't with others

[Mr Gogo]

More details on this please, where is x zone? What time is the show? Is it a lez show? Happen every night same time?

Thanks.

What other good lez shows are around that happen at the same time every night?

This was about a vasectomy, how awful would it be to get one and then sit on a plane for 3 hours? And how many days till you can boom boom again?

You really need 5 hours between boom booms?

Helps to explain why you are always such a cynical dbag in every one of your posts.

Just because hot girls won't go longtime with you doesn't mean they won't with othersI am one of the guys that was there with Mr E at X Zone. It started at 1:30am. We were late but still caught it. It was a lezzie show and much more. The girls would put a condom on your hand and let you explore. Others were shooting darts out of their pussies. Another put half a beer bottle in her pussy. All the while I'm viewing this, a girl is stroking my dick, but I was determined then not to pay any barfines in Pattaya, Now, I'm thinking about going there tonight and paying the barfine for one of those freaks. All I know about the location of the place is that its upstairs. I seem to get lost on "Walking street" every night LOL.

[Western787]

I sense a bit of sarcasm here! But if I'm wrong don't forget a hot shower is not a luxury to all!Actually I was not being sarcastic. I long ago figured out that the simple things in life are in fact often the best. Between Bangkok and Pattaya combined, there is an amazing range of women available, a virtual wonderland, whether you're on a budget or splurging and throwing cash around. There is really something for everyone.

[Dan7373]

I sense a bit of sarcasm here! But if I'm wrong don't forget a hot shower is not a luxury to all!In Thai villages, where most P4P women come from, they don't have hot water or hot showers. The usual way they take a shower is take a pitcher of room-temperature water and splash it over themselves to wet themselves. Then they soap up themselves and splash again to wash off the soap.

It's actually a very economical way to take a shower. They use very little water, when they do it this way. Because the water isn't running, when they are soaping themselves up and washing. And the water they use is often rain water that they collect in huge clay jars from the roofs of their houses.

I know how they take a shower, because I've staid in a Thai village and took some showers there the same way they did.

[WildHawk]

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I'm no expert on long times, I've never done one, just conceptually doesn't make sense to me.Harold, For those of us who have been around, like two minutes or longer, on these boards. It is hardly surprising your girls don't want to stick around you 2 Luv U Long Time. It's enough to suffer reading through five or six words of your pithy comments, let alone putting yourself in the place of the sad ladies must deal with both your repartee and the shriveled Johnson.

[Western787]

I think when guys say they got GFE it means sex was allowed. And it was good. Thats all.

I'm no expert on long times, I've never done one, just conceptually doesn't make sense to me.I think GFE is not a technical thing per se, but more about putting out a positive vibe, and the overall qualitative experience, and most importantly not treating the woman as just a working girl. Yes, it less likely with super hotties, but not impossible.

"Sir Lancelot" summed it up pretty well in the AC forum recently when he said "my modus operandi has always been to make my meetings with the girls as un-businesslike as possible. I'll buy them a drink, chat with them, play silly games and earn their friendship. Then if we've clicked, I'll bar-fine them. From personal experience this is more likely to lead to the 'girlfriend experience' than if I had treated it like a job interview in the bar and asked lots of questions and listed my expectations. By 'girlfriend experience' I mean stuff like kissing, holding hands, cuddling up to each other, eye contact and being playful in the bedroom."

[Dr BJ]

I think when guys say they got GFE it means sex was allowed. And it was good. Thats all.By that I am guessing you have never experienced GFE. Or your interpretation of GFE is "she let me fuck her". Correct me if I am wrong.

Regards,

BJ

[Amex Spg]

1) i tried uploading and got.

"los 2013 trip 1 report. draft 1. docx. upload of file failed."

"los 2013 trip 1 report. draft 1. pdf. upload of file failed."

i've e-mailed the files to some bms so if you have a copy of my files, feel free to upload them to isg on my behalf. thanks in advance.

2) if you want me to e-mail you my files (with normal, not nude, photos embedded) , pm me.

/

los 2013 trip 1 report – draft 1. 1

trip 1 dates: 9 jan – 6 feb 2013 (29 days)

this report was updated 25 feb 2013

warning: this is all imho, ymmv. don't read this if you're easily bored or really critical.

feb 2010 at bkk nana parking lot an escort asked if i was 'retarded' and in may 2010 at vegas' olympic gardens strip club a dancer called me a 'retard. ' yes, i concur indubitably and this trip report (tr) is the same.

draft 1

- sat / 16 feb buddy 1 sent me an e-mail subject line 'los – getting that itch again. ' about 'another quick 5 day trip during the current month. ' i'm glad we didn't do feb because that would be crazy.

- sun / 17 feb buddy 1 calls me and after much contemplation and deliberations we decide to go in mar.

- 8 mar – 6 apr (30 days) i'll be doing los 2013 trip 2 (due to work or school buddy 1 can only meet me for 5 nights) so i don't have time to finish / edit this tr.

- after trip 2 i'll do the trip 2 report and finish this trip 1 report. thank you for your patience.

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http://www.pattayabarguide.com/

map of patts.

- approx exchange rate i'm using is b (aht) 30. 0 = us $1 (or b100 = $3. 40). i was in los 9 jan – 6 feb 2013. this trip report (tr) is easier to understand if you've read my previous trs especially 2011's.

- in past years i graded the friends too leniently and didn't really factor in pricing (what i got vs what i paid). grade a is great, b good, c ok, d bad, f is foul and money spent is indicated. overall value = service (50% weighted, gfe + low maintenance / easy negotiations + sex skills + other intangibles) + looks (face 25% weighted + body 25% weighted) vs cost i spent on her including bfs, lds, shopping.

- my ideal los escort has the looks of cpt eaw.

http://bit.ly/wldpaa

but fellates / performs coitus / is into it the same as mali.

http://bit.ly/wle0bq

and if she went for st < b 700, lt < b 1, 500 she'the be all as.

table of contents.

section 1: logistics / musings.

section 2: lady friends.

section 3:

section 1: logistics / musings.

- monger map of patts.

http://www.pattayabarguide.com/

- first read my 'los 2011 trip report' then 'los guide' for background / acronym info

- acronyms.

http://bit.ly/vizopp

or.

www.urbandictionary.com

bm = board member, red bill = b 100 ($3. 40) , green bill = b 20 ($.70) , cpt / asd / asm / aas / acp / eta = creampiethais, asiansuckdolls, asianstreetmeat, asianappleseed, asiancandypop, exploitedteensasia websites.

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www.thaifriendly.com

www.dateinasia.com

i don't try to date / bed regular women on monger trips because: a) i have no game (otherwise i'the be dating in the us) , be) it's less effort just to hire an escort.

- getting phone numbers is mostly pointless as i rarely want a repeat or 90% of the time she doesn't want a repeat with me / doesn't respond to my texts / calls. if i need to save digits i need notes to remember which escort is which so on my cellphone i'll save 'pimbr, ' 'menachina, 'yingfake, ' 'luk65@silver' who is # 65 at ws new silver star 3 (?) gg.

- prevent a runner.

http://bit.ly/x9jq73

there's 2 parts to dealing with runners.

1) prevention: during negotiations ideally i'm not distracted (by being tired, drunk or horny) but that's rarely the case. in negotiating i would make her repeat in english that 'yes, i smoke no condom. lt b x, xxx' and i make sure she understands / repeats 'lt b x, xxx, if st you only pay b 500. '

2) resolution: she turns out to be a runner / f performer and to prevent her from wrecking my room / stuff for docking her pay when she's about to leave my room i get dressed / ready to leave, we both exit my room (i might have to say 'i pay you here, ' gesture to the hallway and let her see that the baht is in my hand) and lock the room behind us. so now in the hallway / on the way to the reception desk she can throw any tantrum but at least my room / stuff is safe. i give her the reduced pay, an explanation if she needs one ('you no smoke, ' 'no finish in your mouth, ' 'you say lt but you do st, i give you st b 500, same-same before i say st b 500') , if she flips out i can get the hotel reception / security to escort her out.

- i do prefer to pay the escort what we agreed upon and to receive consummate service, a win-win, rather than having to deduct her pay for subpar performance.

- bm said bkk best x / see rate superrich (chit lom bts)

http://www.superrichthailand.com/editor/rate.html

- reputable taxi companies.

http://www.paradise-pattaya.com/taxi-to-pattaya.html

- in patts i stayed at secrets rm 307 superior (not worth the extra b 100 / night over a deluxe) , rm 108 deluxe, canterbury tales rm 402 (buddy 1 in rm 401) , topoli restaurant & guesthouse b 1, 000 / night 'big room' (rm 7?) , jasmine rm 414 then rm 307 b 900 / night (deluxe). will never stay at topoli again even though it's a great location (ws soi 14@second road) and manager gave me the big room (really a suite, queen bed in bedroom + twin-size bed in living room) for discounted b 900 / night. the room had 2 tvs but neither worked / received the satellite channels and worst ant problem i've seen in a patts budget hotel room (whereas some ants usually just around bathroom sink and tolerable). neither buddy 1 nor i will stay at canterbury tales again because we realized how much better a ws located hotel is, our canterbury rooms were unacceptable (mine=crap wi-fi connection, his=funky latrine smell, both rooms=even though the samsung a / see units were new they were very irritatingly noisy). if only the rooms at canterbury & topoli were as great as their staff. sanya nightstar & jasmine continue to be my favorite places to stay.

- my night in bkk stayed at soi nana dynasty inn rm 313 which had useless wi-fi reception. next time i'll try 'bean & blanket inn' coffee shop / guesthouse between dynasty & nep (nana entertainment plaza).

- soi buakhao in between soi lk metro & soi diana i like to use good day massage or the place across from them as it's b 100 for a 1 hr foot massage. corner of second road@south pattaya road there's a b 150 for a 1 hr foot massage but the masseuse kept asking me to also get an oil massage (which usually entails me having to get naked, be vulnerable to a hj special up sale). if i'm going to get a special (and i no longer do as at a mp as it's a poor value, being in a cramped curtained off area with little privacy, other customers hearing me get a hj / bj / fs) , i would do it at 'up to you' mp or the one next to it (both on soi 11/'soi honey' off second road, where honey body massage is) as they have women i find attractive. alas, the 'up to you' masseuses would only do st on premises. their specials consisted of hj b 500, bj b 800, fs 1, 000 + the b 200 for the 1 hr thai / oil massage.

- soi 6 is the best value if i'm using a business / employee to get a st as it's b 1, 000 = st lady b 700 + bf b 300 including use of the room upstairs (which alone is a b 200 – b 300 value on ws or outside soi 6). additionally, her and i will usually shower together (either in ensuite bathroom or bathroom down the hallway) and have a private bedroom (with a bed, sometimes with a sofa / love seat / easy chair, strategically placed mirrors, maybe porn playing on the tv / dvd player). br fl at b 500+ (and of course no bf since she's a fl) is the cheapest deal but you then go to your hotel or use a st room (ps guesthouse on br soi 13/1 'soi yamato', last i heard was b 200 for st).

- in 2011 (?) i had a soi 6 lady quote me total b 800 = st lady b 500 + bf b 300 and she was ok looking but unfortunately had a kid. i took her up on the offer and it was a good deal based on her performance. nowadays soi 6 ladies sometimes quote me b 1, 300 = st lady b 1, 000 + bf but that's usually easily negotiable to the standard st lady b 700.

- bm called it 'saggy mom tits' but i'll just say the milfs have 'affected boobs / tits' (really soft, droopy, unattractive) and / or 'affected stomach' (significant stretch marks on her belly). if she's a thai milf escort. 95% chance she has one or both problems so my main deal breaker usually is if she's a mom.

- this & future trs is for 2 different monger boards i post on, buddies who can't / won't go to los, and as a reference so i can remember certain details such as lessons learned and what mistakes not to repeat.

- i actually learned a few thai phrases. 'mai ao krap' seems to be the magic phrase to turn away touts and on my last night when i was on soi 6 i said it to a couple of lbs and they immediately left me alone.

– canned lines / jokes i tell the ladies:

l: 'what your name? ' me: 'my name chuckwow [masturbate]. '

l: 'where you from? ' me: 'you know udon? ' (udon thani is a large city in isan)

- i've been to bkk nov 2000, dec 2006, feb 2010, may 2012 and jan 2013. been to patts apr 2007, oct 2008, feb 2010 (which i consider my belated 2009 trip) , apr 2010, may 2012 and jan 2013. now that i've tried high season (great weather) , i will never be in patts again during that time (i would rather spend my limited funds in ac, pi in jan / feb). lots of cute ladies but too many guys which outnumbered them at discos marine, insomnia & maybe even lucifer. in may 2012 i was paying fls about st b 500 – b 700, lt b 1, 000 – b 1, 200 but in jan / feb 2013 the fls were adamant about st b 700 – b 1, 000 and lt b 1, 500 – b 2, 000. those prices are reasonable for the hotties but even the fuglies expected it.

- i get uglier every year but i still expect the escorts to quote me reasonable retail prices. reasonable is bgs lt b 1, 000 – b 1, 500 and ggs st b 2, 000, lt b 3, 000, fls st b 500 – b 1, 000, lt b 1, 500 – b 2, 000. having a bg quote me lt b 3k, a soi buakhao papagayo coyote dancer quote me st b 3k, lt b 4k, or a c / d fl decline my initial st b 500 offer (which i could raise up to st b 700 if she's friendly enough) at 07:00 because she gets paid st b 1k – b 1. 5k, aside from the fact that high-balling me means that they prefer to not go with me, apparently there are enough johns out there hiring her that i'm not even worth negotiating with or quoting a reasonable initial price.

- may – sep is the best value in patts (bonus with the hotels having discounted low season rates) , followed by shoulder seasons of mar – apr or oct – nov when weather's ok & prices / qtty of women fair.

- this trip my return plane tix was about $200 since i used airline miles (no more free tix in the foreseeable future). and i spent about total $4, 350 = in 29 days that's $150 / day = $35 / night for a hotel + $115 / day for fun. by myself i tried to keep expenses down by getting early a ws / br fl for lt b 1, 500 ($50) and hang out in my room for the night (+ cost of feeding her) , but there was at least one night i went gg / bb hopping by myself 20:00 – 23:00 and managed to spend an excessive b 2, 500 ($84) on my drinks and only 2 lds that i recall.

- i could cut expenses by drastically reducing my over tipping habit. b 20 each morning to the housekeeper x 28 nights = b 560 ($19) during my trip i give out that most other guests (hailing from countries where, like los, tipping is uncommon / unexpected) , which could pay for a fl st. giving out b 20 at the rate of 4+ times a day (to gg / bb service staff / bartenders / strippers / people i buy b 30 – b 40 / dish food from) = b 80 ($3) – b 300 ($10) per day = up to b 8, 700 ($290) during my trip i give out when i don't need to, b 8, 700 enough to pay for 8 soi 6 visits. i know i should kick this bad habit but i'm going to mostly stick with this over tipping problem. at least it's not as expensive a vice as gambling.

- so i decided to (in addition to avoiding buying lds, paying bfs avoiding subpar ggs such as las vegas or beaver ggs) only tip (attractive) dancers who show nudity (either topless or full) , only patronize real ggs which have nudity (not faux-ggs which are mostly / entirely coyotes such as soi buakhao papa gg / papagayo, soi lk metro's club blu, sugar sugar, showgirls, ws teazers) and not bounce around so much (in the past i'the be in a gg for < 10 minutes before i'm off to the next one). exception to the rule is when my buddies want to visit those places, hence me and buddy 1 did spend lots of time in lk metro lady love gg (or as i like to call it: lady not love me as this one agency / contract coyote i wasted a ld on said that when she does go with customers she's paid lt b 3k – b 5k; she was hot in a bikini but i wanted to see her nude (eg at least topless) before i agreed to lt b 3k + bf 1. 5k before midnight, bf 1k after).

- some bms say patts has gone downhill over the years, but the accurate answer is that it's just changed. x / see rate has gotten worse, but 10+ years from now it'll be even worse for us westerners. fls ask and receive more for st / lt but if it gets to the point that fl pricing = bb / gg ladies pricing, i'll opt for more bgs / ggs and less fls (who have a slightly higher risk of thievery, stds, etc). if i'm going to pay lt b 2. 5+ i would prefer to see the lady nude first, which is the case with a gg. if br fls seriously expect st b 1k+ then i'll just use soi 6 more so. since 2007 positive changes in patts include more malls (central festival, the avenue) , insomnia+ibar (from its smaller, original insomnia place) , tourist police (i'm glad there's a westernized auxiliary to the bib) , more good ggs (their kinda small but there's spanky's bada-bing, ginza, mandarin) , that babydolls gg next door's affiliate just opened private dancer (which has babydolls policy of after 01:30 the bfs drop to b 300) , windmill gg affiliate sugarbaby just opened and the huge sensations gg opened on 4 feb but when i went on 5 feb they had the ugliest welcome girls and the ladies inside were ok. so i try to ignore the bad stuff: agency / contract girls (eg at showgirls & it's affiliate (?) lady love) , more coyote dancers & less nudity (including 'i love ny' gg which i don't think will last, just like the 2 previous ggs / coyote places in that location previously) , fl prices creeping up at least when i approach them. i think lighthouse & fahrenheit ggs are affiliates of tiger & shark ggs.

- if i recall correctly, pricing for an escort from bbs / ggs / soi 6 hasn't changed much since 2007. superbaby / supergirl gg is still bf b 600 ($20) and a fixed rate of st b 2k ($67) , lt b 3k ($100). bbs is still bf b 300 ($10) and (at least outside of high season) st b 500 – b 700 ($17. $23) , lt b 1k – b 2k ($34. $67). the happy group (baccara, happy, peppermint, beach, but unfortunately there 5th / newest one cavern closed after about a year) still has bf b 600 ($20) (in 2007 i think only happy & peppermint existed) and most ladies will still fairly easily accept st b 2k ($67) , lt b 3k ($100). i did notice that their wall posters now say 'ld b 120' ($4) whereas in 2012 it was 'ld b 115; ' still pretty reasonable. main reason prices really went 'up' was in early 2000s x / see rate was b 40 = $1 instead of current b 30 = $1.

- having bought the pa privilege card for b 250 (and it has no expiration date) turned out to be a good deal as i got 10% off at some places i like to go to (sapphire / babydolls / windmill ggs, lk metro's billabong / 3som bars, soi 6 nightwish) and the savings on my canterbury lodging (the cool owner applied the 10% discount to my room & my buddy 1's room reservations) alone saved b 250.

- my favorite ggs are all on ws:

1) tied are baccara with more hotties / cushy easy chairs but happy has the edge on party atmosphere

2) superbaby lots of nudity, hotties, their dead-stare which is to appeal to the jap clientele doesn't bother me and it's lesser sister gg supergirls which is really hit & miss.

3) casnovy like happy group has tons of nudity which is fairly attractive, transparent pricing with posted on the walls 'bf b 600' and 'ld b 110' and hot women such as 57, 67 and 46.

4) airport for the best party vibe but their aggressiveness (showergirls pestering me for red bills, waitresses hounding me for lds) is ridiculous, especially since they know that as a regular my usual reply is to hand coins to the showergirls & to waive 'no' to the ld requesters (i'll say 'mai ao krap' here on out)

5) usually i don't go for sleazy (banana shows, hjs / bjs in plain view, fisting) but i have to admit the most friendly / interactive / uninhibited ladies are at babydolls, windmill and x-zone.

- ws ggs i really like but try not to go to:

1) what's up gg has opaque pricing including no menu (on 2 visits i asked my waitress & both said 'no menu') but on a positive note a beer is the same price as a water or coke at an overpriced b 135 (?) , lds are either b 185 or b 225 (!). i asked the b / c looking showergirl 'how much? ' and she told me st bf 1k, lt bf b 2k + st lady b 3k, lt lady b 4k which showergirl or not is ridiculous. by comparison the airport ohm showergirl i liked was bf 1k and st b 2k, lt b 3k which i was really considering since ohm was a fun, attractive girl i had good chemistry with, but alas i was too cheap to spend that on a patts gg. still, at least in previous years what's up had a fun party atmosphere in a miami chic-white motif theécor gg.

2) iron: considering how many bolt-ons, all pretty similar, i saw those 2 nights i went they must be getting a group-rate discount from the plastic surgeon and they should re-name the gg 'silicone. ' layout's terrible but they have a bunch of hotties, especially if her 'milk original' isn't a priority.

- thoughts on ggs outside ws i went to this trip: lk metro vicinity champagne still the best (bonus of free pizza). of the new ggs of queen is pretty good, showgirls & lady love mostly coyotes at least the times i was there, paradise was terrible. the club oasis gg wasn't so good this time. on br near soi 7 & 8 the worldwide gg had mostly fat chicks, though the line-up was an improvement over 2011/2012.

- usual ailments on my los sojourns are insomnia, cold (starts with a sore throat, progresses to a cough / runny nose) , diarrhea. in the future i'll hit the pharmacy to get meds upon first symptoms showing.

- i'm not good at making new friends and i especially don't trust a working girl i've been with. yet in patts i have frenemy 1 ae (a ws fl i fl'the in 2007 and 2008) and frenemy 2 som (bf'the her in 2008 from worldwide gg when it was actually good; she now works airport gg). when i'm in town i'm always wary when they want to hang out (we don't / won't do st / lt) as i'm suspicious of their ulterior motives.

- working girls are young at age 18 – 22, middle-aged in the 5-year period of 23 – 27 and old at age 28+. i prefer young, petite, childless women but for variety (more experienced in the sack, more likely to take cim.) or because i can't find an affordable spinner, hottie, young'un i'll go with a middle-aged or old gal, a thick girl, a milf, from time to time.

- i just assume the worse: the escort will be flat-chested or someway a deficient physique, poor performer, be a runner, will try to steal something, bad attitude. always a pleasant surprise when they have a nice rack / body, good in bed, willing to do anal, gives a gfe. in turn i try my best to give a decent bfe, buy them their choice of small snacks / foods / knick-knacks (eg toothbrush) at a 7-11 / family mart / logbase friendship supermarket / street vendor on the way to the hotel, and give 'them a tip / taxi money if deserved.

section 2: lady friends.

day 1, wed / 9 jan, high season = sts only?

friend 1 ice (?) see photo, age 22, ws fl. 1 pop in 1 round.

total b 620 ($21) = st b 500 ($17) + tip b 100 ($3) + taxi b 20 ($1)

overall value a = service a + face a + body a + total b 620 ($21)

friend 2, age 27, br fl (= cb fl) , says she works angel (?) bb on soi 7 (or was it soi 8?).1 pop in 1 round.

total st b 700 ($24)

overall c = service c + face b + body c + total b 700 ($24)

- 22:30 (9 jan) plane lands at bkk airport.

- 23:30 meet pattaya-taxi. com driver (b 1000 + tip b 200)

- 01:00 (10 jan) secrets check-in with receptionist cuties champu (?) & gif (few days later i casually offer an indecent proposal to champu & she says she never goes with customer) , get rm 307 superior which is just larger but not much different than a deluxe room, annoyed that wi-fi code / instructions isn't in room & that the room safe is locked & i have to wait until daytime for maintenance guy to open it up for me.

- 02:00 i'm finally on ws but money exchange windows closed and so is the soi 15 cellphone shop (to the left of beach gg) , go to sapphire gg to pick up my pa privilige card and order a b 80 draft beer.

- hit private danger gg b 55 draft beer & mamasan tells me her 37th be-day party is 17 jan (which i said i'll be at but never did make) , hit what's up gg b 135 (?) for a drink & see what's going on.

- 02:45 airport gg see frenemy 2 som & mamasan boom, order a 'heineken' but server brings me the b 125 heineken bottle because i didn't say 'draft beer' to order the b 85 draft heineken,

- 03:30 on ws friend 1 is eating bbq and i chat her up with my limited thai and her limited english, she tells me she only does st and it's b 700 (?) , i persuade her down to b 500 and in my room she doesn't do much of a bbbj but she wasn't shy about us together in the shower (some women lock the shower door so i can't even sneak in) and she has a banging body / small b cup breasts, excellent performer. i pay up b 500 + tip b 100 + taxi b 20 and saddened that she won't do lt. (epilogue: couple more times on this trip i see her on ws but she'll only go with me just for a st).

- 04:30 i go to insomnia which just closed, supposedly something to do with the bib, so i walk ws & br.

- 05:30 on br i meet friend 2 who looks like my ex-girlfriends (and just like with my ex-girlfriends, it doesn't end well between us) and we agree to something. she says she works at a bb and she was on br (where i ran in to her) just to talk to her friend. in my room her body's ok, kinda gettin' old at age 27, does give me a good but short back massage, shorter bbbj and sex was c / ok. time to pay up as she wants to leave but i can't remember the price we agreed upon, i hand her b 500 she says 'b 700, ' i hand over a red bill she says 'b 700' and i didn't think the session was worth that but can't remember if we had negotiated a price so i hand over another red bill to bring it to b 700. i tell her that i won't see her at her angel (?) bb tomorrow to buy her that ld (had she been a good performer and been b 500 – b 600 i would have gone there to buy her one or just tip her directly b 40 – b 100) , and she says ok.

- 08:00 only finding ladies doing sts i'm a little bummed that i might have to sleep alone. i hit jp bar and find a drunk lady who's a monet (good from afar, but far from good) who asks for lt b 3, 000; i pass.

- 08:30. 10:30 i'm only able to sleep 2 hrs before i naturally wake up and want to do something.

day 2, thu / 10 jan, heimlich maneuver.

friend 3 june see photo, age 21, milf 1, br fl. 1 pop in 1 round, cherry ass pop 1.

total b 660 ($22) = st b 500 + tip b 160.

overall a = service a + face b + body d + total b 660 ($22)

friend 4 see photo age 23, milf 2, br fl. 1 pop in 1 round.

st b 500 + declined taxi b 20 as she said she wanted to walk.

overall c = service c + face d + body d + total b 500 ($17)

- 11:00 i hit scb (siam commercial bank) to get some b 20s (pay for food / small items + easier to tip)

- 11:30 b 40 seafood pad see eew at my favorite hole in the wall at soi 13/2 'soi post office'

- 12:00 foot massage b 149 + tip b 51 at chiwan massage soi 13/1 soi yamoto

- 13:30 buy sim card b 100 + top-off (pre-paid minutes added) b 200 at the avenue mall.

- 14:30 at logbase get a facial b 500 + tip b 200 for 60 min (usually it's only 30 min long) ; tried negotiating to the unadvertised special of b 350 but the ladies (who know me from previous yrs) say that it's high season and they can only give me that price starting early feb, which i can't wait for.

- 15:30 b 850 for body scrub / milky oil massage / thai massage + tip b 150 at logbase's sawasdee massage; in the future i'll do this at soi diana / buakhao which advertises it for about b 500.

- 18:00 haircut b 80 + tip b 20 at logbase's barber. between the facial+body scrub+haircut my physical appearance will only go downhill (from exercising infrequently, eating too much los grub & beer drinking, inadequate sleep). still nice that i got a comment from an escort about my soft skin (thanks, body scrub).

- 19:00 i meet friend 3 at cb. bbbj was short and won't do cim (so i start thinking i need to hit [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) / bliss for a nice long bbbj with a cim finale) but it turns out she'll pop her cherry ass. initially i'm soft and gentle but towards the end when we're doing doggy-style in her backdoor she's enjoying the anal intercourse so i go regular ramming speed, which felt pretty good. i pay up, give her an initial tip b 100 and she jokes i should pay total b 700, i gladly hand her all the remaining money on me which was 3 green bills = b 60 (i didn't want to go to my safe to retrieve more money) and she jovially says i'll just owe her the remaining b 40, and i happily say i'll pay her it when i see her again. rest of my trip i wanted to fl her again to retire the b 40 iou and more importantly tap her fun ass again. alas, our paths never re-crossed.

- 21:00 gg hop at misty's for a draft beer b 35, mandarin, ginza, sugarbaby, happy, baccara, pepperment, tiger, and maybe superbaby / sapphire, towards the end they all kinda blended together.

- 00:30 marine disco's empty (too early) , ibar and insomnia packed (whereas in the past it was packed after 01:00) but bad ratio. i dance for 3+ hrs scoping out the availability but leave alone.

- 04:00 on ws, more strike outs.

- 05:30 meet friend 4 at cb, figure might as well and i guess it was good that she only wanted st. c / d everything: looks, sex. at least i negotiated b 500 and figured i should give her taxi b 20 but she politely declined saying she liked to walk. when buddy 1 saw the photo he joked i was giving her the heimlich, whereas truthfully i use my left hand to hold the gal in place so i can snap a photo before they wise up.

- 08:00 finally go to sleep

day 3, fri / 11 jan, undulate.

friend 5 see photo age 19, br fl. 5 pops in 5 rounds.

total b 1, 646 ($55) = lt b 1, 500 ($51) + food / drinks b 146 ($4)

(she quoted me st b 700, lt b 1, 500)

overall a = service a + face b + body a + total b 1, 646 ($55)

- 10:00 wake up (stupid insomnia was also preventing my afternoon naps most of the trip)

- 13:00 walk br to soi 6.

- 13:30. 17:30 bar hop on soi 6 including night wish & pussy club beerbars (same owners) , enjoyed solo club (across from ruby club, same owners) where i had san mig light b 85 and bought 1 ld b 120 for this little hottie but we lacked chemistry so no st for us.

- 19:30. 06:00 was (except for the 01:00 – 03:00 interlude) with friend 5.

- 19:30 – 01:00 at cb i meet friend 5 who quotes me st b 700, lt b 1, 500. i look at my watch, it's only 19:30, tell her 'lt' she looks at her watch, probably thinks it's too early but still agrees to it (i just assumed she would be a runner). ask me how many boom-booms, i just arbitrarily say '5' and gesture with my hand (she has limited english) , she looks at me suspiciously. bbbj only during 1st round; low maintenance only got her the requested 2 x bacardi breezers at b 53 / ea from 7-11 and b 40 thai curry / rice dish the entire 10 hrs we were together. wanted cigarettes but no smokes if she wasn't going to smoke me (she wouldn't smoke during rounds 2. 5). turns out she had this amazing spinner body with small b cup breasts (she does need to get braces, though) , and this way of undulating her body slowly during intercourse which was sexy and felt so nice, really put mini-me in a good mood.

- 01:00. 03:00 interlude: while she's asleep (& later watching tv) i hit ggs living dolls water b 120, i love ny water b 100, soi happy@ws mj's bb water b 50, beach gg draft beer b 59 & secrets water b 69. at the new i love ny gg lots of coyote stunners & all the employees seemed really friendly. one dancer sat with me the entire time i was there and she never asked for a ld. i made small talk with her and asked her about "how much for lady?" and she said bf b 1, 300 (?) , and in her case st b 2, 500, lt b 3, 500. another smokin' hot dancer in bra and panties said i should dance with her and her co-workers / friends who were at another table but as it was a thai song playing which i can't move to, i passed. i had read another bm's post that he dropped b 6k ($200+) on his drinks+lds celebrating his be-day there, but in the end the (contract?) girl (s) didn't put out, so he felt the place was a scam but at least he had fun on his be-day. at 02:30 this sat morning only customers were me, a coupla indians (?) sitting by themselves quietly and one white guy who was dancing with a coupla of the coyotes (maybe it was that bm?) , so place was lacking customers. closed my tab (i think i had a water or coke light) & left. never went back to i love ny faux-gg as it lacked nudity.

- 03:00 – 06:00 back in room with friend 5 and she's watching the film australia. prior to 01:00 we had 3 pops in 3 rounds and i was hoping to squeeze out 1 more pop. at 03:00 was able to pry open her legs again (part of foreplay where she keeps her legs crossed, acts uninterested in sex, i finally open her clam & once inside her she goes in to undulating mode which works whether she's on top or we're spooning) for round 4 for pop 4. australia is 2 hrs 45 min and it ends about 05:00, mini-me is up again (thanks to the ½ cialis i had taken at 20:00) and so i try for round 5. intercourse was once again great (she should trademark that undulating technique) and i have pop 5. at 06:00 she decides to leave.

- 06:30 i arrive in front of insomnia but it just closed (i was hoping for high season they would extend the closing time; at it's old location insomnia would be open until past 08:00) and i missed the exodus of the fls leaving that and ibar which closes at 05:30. i get a water b 30 at jp bar, then get some squid and octopus on ws (only b 20 per skewer, a total steal) & b 40 noodles at my early morning noodle food cart on soi bj.

- 07:30 sleep.

day 4, sat / 12 jan, buddy 1's arrival 1.

friend 6 lady, age 24, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) works 17:00 – 02:00 (when [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) closes).1 shot in 1 round, cim 1.

total b 900 ($30) = st 700 ($24) + tip b 200 ($7)

overall a = service a + face b + body c + total b 900 ($30)

- 08:30 wake up, freakin' hell.

- 09:00 get my stuff from mam laundry located on soi p. 72 (further down the soi is another laundry shop with washer / dryer machines so they also have same day service available) & get breakfast.

- 12:00 ws secrets check-out then soi chaiyapoon canterbury tales check-in (for the next four nights i would be staying in soi buakhao / lk metro with buddy 1 since we wanted to check the area out)

- 15:00 – 00:00 (?) buddy 1 checks-in to canterbury, we hang out including hitting soi diana's bb complex, ws' airport gg, basilisk bb at new simon complex and at 21:15 lk metro paradise gg which had plenty of nudity but since they were unattractive i would have preferred to see the talent with their clothes on. at some point buddy 1 decided he was going to bf miss cambodia (she was thai but looked cambodian) from basilisk so him and i parted ways.

- 01:20 – 02:00 i'm at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) for cim 1. fortunately friend 6 who's actually named 'lady' (even says it on her name tag) was available as i meant to try her out in 2012. she agrees to be naked during the bj so upstairs we go. 01:26 – 02:00 she blows me exactly the way i like and at 01:55 she says [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is closing and that i should have come by around midnight. so mini-me quickly finishes with a cim, i tip her b 200 (at least i didn't buy her a ld) for exemplary service.

- 02:00 memory's fuzzy on the rest of the night (probably walked br and / or just went back to my hotel room alone) & the next 3 nights as insomnia & my cresting cold was fatiguing me and i was trying to keep up with buddy 1 who was only in town for 4 nights. i also stopped keeping decent notes of my activities.

day 5, sun / 13 jan, blissful.

friend 7 skinny won, age 26, works bliss lounge 12:00 – 00:00, 1 pop in 1 round, cim 2.

total b 890 ($30) = st 700 + tip b 100 + ld b 90 (?)

overall a = service a + face b + body c + total b 890 ($30)

friend 8 see photo, age 20, milf 3, 3 pops in 3 rounds. 3-holer 1.

bf b 300 + lt b 1, 500 + food b 30.

overall a = service a + face b + body c + total b 1, 830 ($61)

- 12:30 we're at bliss lounge, he gets bj from a lady and i opt for friend 7 skinny won over the newbie girl (supposedly she had only been there a week and as she wasn't that cute or experienced i declined; two days later when i wanted to try her i found out she had just quit).

- 12:50 – 13:20 friend 7, who would only go topless, had good bj technique but around 22 min started gesturing that her neck was sore from all the head-bobbing. i would have preferred to have taken up the 40 min bliss time limit, but whatever. so mini-me finishes with cim 2 and i tip her b 100 (even though i had already bought her a ld) as i was pretty happy overall with the slow, sensual bj (slightly marred by her neck pain towards the end).

- 13:30 it was this day (or the following day) that buddy 1 and i were at dd so that buddy 1 could book a dd gal for lt b 3, 500 (that's total price paid to dd to cover bf+lady's fee) for 22:00 – 06:00 that night.

- 13:30 – 22:00 hang out with buddy 1; at 22:00 we're at dd so he can pick up his lady & we part ways

- 22:00 – 01:00 i gg hop at lk metro's queen, showgirls, lady love (where i met that hot coyote which said she goes for lt b 3k – 5k only if she likes a customer) and club blu. checked out soi buakhao's new action street and rehab street (don't know what to call the bb complex behind the new rehab coyote & lounge bar) ; action st was actionless (it's new so maybe it just needs time to fill up with better staffed bbs) and same goes for rehab st (didn't go in to rehab as i had enough coyotes on lk metro).

- 01:00 walk from soi buakhao southbound to south pattaya road, turning westbound to br / ws.

- 01:30 met friend 8 and her age 19 sister (also a milf but not as cute; they didn't look alike but claimed to have the same mama & baba) as i was entering cb and they were walking towards ws (in that open area next to the police kiosk / b 5 toilet which used to be motorbike parking lot now is just open space). i asked how much for lt and age 19 sister translated, lt b 1, 500. i said, ok, friend 8 age 20 sister go with me. they wanted me to go with them to the pbg / sirens bb complex (i was hoping they were fls but unfortunately they were on-duty bgs) , paid the bf b 300 and friend 8 and i hoped the songtaew to canterbury.

- 02:00 – 08:00 friend 8 did anal at one point and i'm not sure if she was a cherry ass (she didn't speak english) so i'll assume she wasn't. she bjs a little and no cim, but overall a fun girl. if not for the affected boobs from the pregnancy she would have had a great body. we did 2 pops in 2 rounds before falling asleep, and a 3rd shot / 3rd round before she left at 08:00. i didn't feel like taking her to breakfast so i just gave her b 30 for food + the lt b 1, 500.

day 6, mon / 14 jan, shisha girl.

friend 9 ohm age 26, ws fl, cherry ass pop 2.

st b 1, 000 + b 120 for 2 leo big bottle beers + b 55 breakfast (she quoted me st b 1, 000, lt b 1, 500)

overall b = service a + face a + body b + total b 1, 175 ($39)

- 10:30 (?) – 00:00 (?) buddy 1 and i hang out including me introducing him to lady love gg but at some point we go our separate ways for some reason.

- 00:00 (?) – 02:00 i gg hop on lk metro 2nd night in a row & with the dearth of nudity and prices being equal to or higher than ws, i decide i might as well go to where i belonged all along: ws ggs.

- 02:00 buddy 1 and i meet up again & i tell him i'm headed to ws, he says he'll join me so we head down beside mike shopping mall the art street to br and on to ws.

- 02:30 buddy 1 and i just entered ws when i meet friend 9 who quotes me st b 1k, lt b 1. 5k and says we should do st and if i like her i can opt for lt (which sounds like a line of bs, but i play along) , but i tell her i want lt. we hop on her motorbike & head back to soi chaiyapoon while buddy 1 does some thing else. i make the usual offer of getting some supplies at a mini-mart, friend 9 says she's better in bed / more sociable if she's tipsy and asks how about leo beer. 2 big bottles. i buy 4 to go (2 for her. 2 for me) for total b 240 from a restaurant on third road as the liquor store next door is closed and 7-11 is inconveniently located, and we're off to my room.

- 03:30 we arrive on her motorbike to my canterbury guesthouse building (they have several buildings) and i reach into her shirt to feel up her left tit, which was a good size with soft skin, and she was getting turned on (i was actually expecting her to push my hand away as we were outdoors). in my room we drink up all the leo's, i secretly pop ½ a cialis, and she talks (quite the intelligent talker, and i don't mind being a listener but i was pretty tired) until 05:30, with some interjections of getting her down to her panty / bra and me sneaking a peak at her vagina and a suck on her tits. she's pretty sharp and asks 'tell me truth, you want me drunk so you can boom-boom backdoor, at least 10, 20% true? ' and i said 'yes, but only 10% true' as she was right on and i wanted her to have a good time as part of the bfe schtick.

- 05:30 – 06:00 finally we get down to business on the bed and when i take her doggy style she says she likes to be spanked on her butt (no problem, it kinda hurts my hand but i can easily accommodate that especially when a woman insists upon it) , she likes her hair pulled (i never tried that before) and she likes to be slapped on her cheek (hmmm, i had never slapped a woman's face before; butt yes, face no). so i'm exhausted and i'm doing her doggy-style, spanking her butt, pulling her hair (as i'm a cherry hair yanker i have no idea how hard to pull) and trying to slap her face / cheek (also a cherry face slapper). i don't have the best hand-eye coordination and in doggy-style position it's hard to get the slap placement square on her cheek / flesh (as opposed to inadvertently hitting her jaw / nose / side of her head) and she wants me to slap her harder and harder but then i realize my fingernails are due for a clipping so now i'm worried with a wry slap i'll accidentally scratch her soft facial skin with my fingernail (s). so i transition to entering the backdoor but as i put a finger in her anus she says it's a little 'jep' [painful] and asks if my fingernails are trimmed, which i guiltily reply that they're due for a trim. so we move on to mini-me popping her cherry ass, but the moment his head was in there, he turned to rope. she was sympathetic and said 'too much [ky] jelly' which was also true but the problem was me / mini-me, even though i had popped ½ a cialis a coupla hrs earlier. i would guess the being slapped and the backdoor action was pretty disappointing for her, but at least i did get my 1 pop in and i'll count it as a (weak) cherry ass pop.

- 06:00 – 06:30 she's hungry and though i would rather sleep i agree to going with her on her motorbike to this hole in the wall behind tukcom where each entrée (really small portions) are b 10, so we get 6 entrees. 2 rices. 2 cokes all for b 110 + tip.

- 06:30 – 07:30 she wants rambutan fruit & shisha (which she kept mentioning since 03:00) and says she'll pay for it, she just wants my company. she buys rambutan & we go to near ws arab street for shisha (i think she paid b 120 for it + the coke b 20). i'm smoking / trying not to fall asleep, she points out to me the shisha shop owner, the moroccan fl that services the middle easterners who need a break from the shisha, and she says she needs to check on her dog (or puppy) at her nearby room. i say 'ok, ' she leaves for about 20 minutes and comes back in a change of clothes, she settles the bill and then we head back to canterbury.

- 07:30 in front of my canterbury building i tell her that i prefer lt b 1. 5k over the st b 1k, she says she empathizes but it's easier for her to sleep in her own bed, i said that's understandable so we settle on st. i go up to my room to get the 1k and my camera, outside again i hand her the 1k and try to get a photo but she won't let me take one since she says 'i not beautiful now' that the sun's up, her make-ups marred. she says i should just hit up her cellphone if i want to meet up again for a st or a lt.

- epilogue few days later i tried texting / calling her as i wanted another crack at slapping her (something i seriously need practice on, but the hair pulling i have down) and tapping her backdoor. alas, she never responded. apparently i was that bad in bed that first and only time, not even deserving of a 'so-so' good. too bad as she had a pretty nice body, a little thick but complimented nicely by her small b-cups.

- 08:00 sleep.

day 7, tue / 15 jan, babydolls bf.

friend 10 see photo age 23, sabai dee body massage #32, her father's chinese & her mom's thai, cbj

bf 2, 400 + ld b 140 + tip b 200

overall a = service b + face b + body a + total b 2, 740 ($91)

- 11:00 (?) – 13:00 buddy 1 and i meet up and have brunch.

- 13:00 couple days earlier we checked out honey body massage around 15:00 and were unimpressed. it's buddy 1's last 24 hrs in patts but he insists on treating me to a soapie (normally i don't do it as soi 6 / br is a better value & i don't get much out of the novelty of a body-to-body massage).

- 13:45 we hit the sabai's & find there's now a honey 2, where we had beers there but the selection was even worse than honey 1. went to sabai room for beers & selection was better but didn't hire anyone. finally hit sabai dee.

finally hit sabai dee for drinks and found some lookers. i said number 32 was hot and buddy insisted i take the lady as he was paying anyways.

sidenote: i had been drinking way too much so i actually had to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) 4 times in our 90 minutes together (once before the bath, once before the body massage and twice during the intercourse (obviously interrupting coitus to relieve myself) ; my bladder is 20 oz (about 600 ml) so the problem is that my 2 kidneys work too well & i should sell one to fund a few los trips.

so number 32 and i were in the room about 15:00. 16:30. first 45 minutes or so was the bathing & body massage and she had a great hour-glass figure with b-cup natural tits. then came the 5 second cbj (she would not do bbbj, nor anal or any kissing let alone dfk) , followed by 30 second woman on top. she was hot, but she didn't like to work during cbj / fs it seemed. so i boom-boom her and as i had power (cialis was still in my system) we went thru a variety of positions. as i was doing her from behind i slowly shuffled us to the mirror which she was reluctant to face, but then as i was tapping her from behind with us facing the mirror so i could admire the front of her body in the reflection & her holding on to the dresser, she really got into it. i started softly-to-harder slapping her butt and also added some hair pulling, and both she didn't seem to mind (i think she may even have enjoyed it, but i truthfully don't know what a woman's thinking during sex unless she tells me bluntly "hurt" or "good" or whatever black & white terms). we go back & i sit on the bed's ledge, her straddling / facing me & we screw that way for a bit. i lean back and lay on the bed to rest and she's finally grinding me hard in the woman-on-top position. we're both tired and i finish by splooging on her stomach / across her torso on to the bed.

we wash up & get dressed. she asks about a tip and i gave her the b 200 that i was already plan on giving her anyway (though a lady asking for a tip is always irksome) , which she seems happy with. i say "take photo" and she say "no" and while she's fixing herself in the mirror she can obviously see i'm taking a photo of her reflection, and she doesn't object. she says "let me see," thinks i can do better photos so i take a couple more and she say "take many." photos are done and we head down the elevator holding hands, walking as if tgf / bf. as we exit the elevator an asian punter is entering with number 42 who also looks hot and if i was a soapie guy, i'd get her at a later date, and number 32 says i should get her next time if i want her (i'm glad she cares for my feelings). anyways, my ranking of the patts soapies in terms of ladies looks is: sabai dee, sabai room, honey, honey 2. all the soapie's waiters had told us "90 minute. 1 shot, blowjob with condom." previously the one & only time i had done a soapie was during my first trip to bangkok in nov 2000, and i thought it was ok. this time i was really lucky buddy treated me to what turned out to be a great soapie session with a hot half-chinese masseuse.

friend 11 age 29 joy 086-222-9531, 4 pops, overall b = service b + face c + body a, total b 2, 400 = bf 300 + lt b 2, 000 + coupla milky drinks b 50 + noodles b 50, babydolls at 02:00.

day 8, wed / 16 jan, buddy 1's departure 1.

friend 12 & 13, thick won and nung (?) , switched girls out.

total b 900 = st b 700 + thick won tip b 100 + nung tip b 100. bliss.

friend 14 see photo. 3-holer cherry ass, cim. 4 pops,

total b 2, 000+ = ld b 130 + bf b 300 + lt b 1, 500 + food b 40 + heineken b 30 (?) + peanuts b 10 + tip b 50 + misc + ld b 130.

overall a = service a + face b + body a + b 2, 000.

tac just turned age 18 just 6 weeks ago (based on the dob from her passport).18:00 at easy beerbar 17 at pbg / sirens complex was told bf b 500 since i haven't bought a ld / drink so i ordered a water for myself and a ld for achira, tipped b 50 to my interpreter and b 20 to each of the 4 (or 5?) other ladies. the age 29 milf had a better face albeit also lots of make-up but i lost interest in bfing once i learned she was old mother. after closing my tab we went to friendship (mini). supermarket at logbase.

day 9, thu / 17 jan.

friend 15 noona see photo, age 23, cbj. 3 pops.

total b 1, 515 = lt b 1, 500 + pepsi b 15

overall a = service b + face a + body a

02:00. 06:00 but she had agreed to 10:00. quoted me st b 1, 000, lt b 2, 000, said she remembered me from 2012 (i was in patts may 2012) and said that i wanted st b 500 and so she had never went with me. this time she quoted me st b 1, 000, lt b 2, 000, i said lt b 1, 500, she said b 1, 800, i said b 1, 500 and she acquiesced. i gave her chubby friend tax b 20 to try and build some goodwill. in the room she told me that an old guy had asked her how much and she quoted him lt b 4, 000 which shocked him, he negotiated down to lt b 1, 500 but then noona decided not to go with him at lt b 1, 500 after all. and she was glad i soon came along at lt b 1, 500 because if she's only being paid that much she'd prefer a young man, body good, smell good.

day 10, fri / 18 jan.

problem with **** escort from made in thailand (beerbar complex on second road at soi 8) bow & beam bar.

- friend 16 see photo age 21, has a kid. 2 pops,

overall a = service a + face c + body d.

total b 1, 220 = lt b 1, 000 + tip b 200 + toothbrush b 20.

gave her age 17 sister taxi b 20. wanted cbj but i sweet-talked her in to bbbj. says her and her sister for st b 2, 000 services mr. x with cbj and cfs. met on ws at 03:45 and she stayed with me until 09:40 since she had to work at 13:00.

day 11, sat / 19 jan.

- friend 17 oy, age 23.

total b 828 = bf 300 + st b 500 + toothbrush b 28.

overall d = service d + face c + body d.

best friends bars & mall (beerbar complex on br about soi 13) jam's bar 12.

day 12, sun / 20 jan, buddy 1's addiction.

- friend 18 ae age 23, cim.

total b 1, 100 = bf 300 + st b 700 + tip b 100.

overall a = service a + face b + body c.

red point bar. 18:50. 19:30.

next to lisa.

- friend 19 see photo, sun / 20 jan, age 24, runner.

total b 70 = st b 769 + papaya salad b 30 + candy b 20 + toothbrush b 19.

overall b = service b + face b + body a.

told me st b 700, lt b 1, 500, 19:55 met her on br, had papaya salad, she bought watermelon b 10 and deep fried pork, fried grasshopper & another bug, stopped by friendship supermarket

sidenote: i think it was this day that buddy 1 informed me that he would be returning to patts in feb. i was skeptical since he was just in town 12 – 16 jan. to my astonishment he was back in patts 1 – 5 feb.

day 13, mon / 21 jan.

- friend 20 pim see photo age 23, 2 pops, cim, swallows,

total b 1, 010 = st b 700 + extra bj b 300 + taxi b 10.

overall a = service a + face c + body b.

12:30 at central festival mall escalator, was with me from 15:00. 17:30,

- friend 21 mena see photo age 27, 6 pops.

total b 1, 600 = lt b 1, 500 + food / drinks b 80 + taxi b 20.

overall a = service a + face b + body b.

22:45 met me in front of candyshop disco, stayed with me until 10:00, 3 bbbj / fs / pops before we fall asleep around 01:00, around 02:30 i tap her while she's semi-asleep, around 04:00 i tap her while she's semi-asleep. 09:00 bbbj and pop.

day 14, tue / 22 jan.

- friend 22 bee see photo, age 25, 3 pops, cim. 1 kid.

total b 1, 574 = lt b 1, 500 + lotion b 34 + snacks / drinks b 40.

overall a = service a + face b + body b.

about 20:00 met at coconut bar, stayed with me until 08:00 or so. 1st pop bbbj+fs+cim, same for 2nd pop. 3rd pop only painted her body.

day 15, wed / 23 jan, bangkok.

- friend 23 bo see photo, age 21, 4 pops.

total b 3, 600 = bf b 600 + lt b 3, 000.

overall b = service c + face a + body a.

19:40 met her at bangkok nana plaza angelwitch (which is next to spanky's) , stayed with me until 06:30, said she did bj but that was a lie and she wanted to be a whining starfish. whining i couldn't do much about instead of letting a working girl be a starfish i put the lady in to doggy style, spooning, etc (although when they're a wannabe / starfish there's nothing / little i can do to get them do much / any of woman on top).

day 16, thu / 24 jan, back in patts.

- friend 24 fa see photo, age 25, cim.

total b 1, 100 = bf b 300 + st b 700 + tip b 100.

overall a = service a + face b + body b.

tipped cashier b 20.

red point bar 18:16. 18:40, she says she does not do lt.

day 17, fri / 25 jan.

- friend 25 jang see photo, age 20, 2+ pops

total b 1, 590 = lt b 1, 500 + snack / drinks 90.

overall a = service a + face c + body d.

day 18, sat / 26 jan.

- friend 26 noy see photo, age 22, 2 pops.

total b 1, 250 = lt b 1, 250.

overall d = service d + face d + body d.

02:45 met her at logbase, said the next day she would be working the bar at secrets, works at another beerbar (inside pbg / sirens) that i had bf'd her friend, left at 08:30, 1st round bbbj / fs. 2nd round fs. we had agreed upon lt b 1, 500 but i docked her pay since she hardly did agreed upon bbbjs during round 1 and absolutely refused any bbbj during round 2.

day 19, sun / 27 jan.

- friend 27 see photo, age 22 (?) , has a kid. 2 pops. 3-holer, cherry ass.

total b 1, 560 = lt b 1, 500 + taxi b 20 + food b 60.

overall a = service a + face c + body c.

at 06:30 when insomnia closes we agree to lt, round 1 she gives a good bbbj and i also pop her cherry ass, at 11:00 round 2 just bj+fs and she leaves at 11:30.

day 20, mon / 28 jan.

- friend 28 age 21 see photo. 5 pops.

total b 1, 859 = bf + b 300 + lt b 1, 500 + snacks b 59.

overall a = service a + face c + body c.

at 01:10 bf her from pbg / sirens beerbar, says she used to work japanese ktv (karaoke rooms servicing jap customers) , says she does bbbj, stop by 7-11 and i pay for her bacardi breezer b 53 (which she never actually consumed so i drank it later) and b 59 for some snacks she wanted, back in my room she says she wants cbj but i insist on bbbj as we agreed upon so she does it really well, says she doesn't like to smoke so we move on to fs, she's a lbfm and in th woman-on-top positions she's grinding me for a while and when she eventually tires i go do the work. eventually i get tired and want to finish so i go shower mini-me, ask her to smoke which she does really well (though she would rather not) , i wanted a cim but she would only take a cof for pop 1. i still have an erection since i popped kamagra so i just do my hand-party and paint her body for pop 2 and we sleep until about 02:30. about 04:30 i wake up horny, she's asleep so for round 2 i just paint her body for pop 3. she's awake enough to realize what i just did so she goes to wash it off and goes back to sleep. i still have an erection so i paint her body again for pop 4 and she goes to wash / sleep again (so literally a "rinse and repeat'). at 06:15 sun is coming up and i wake up with an erection so i put on a condom and start tapping her, she's groggy but becomes more and more awake and starts participating (eg woman-on-top). eventually we're both tired so i finish on her face again pop 5. i shower, she then showers and comes out dressed, i joking tell her it's only 07:00 and that she had told me she would go home at 09:00 and since i now have an erection i dropped my pants & indicated for her to blow mini-me. she really wants to leave so i don't stop her (i was hoping for a morning bj before she left but at least i got total 5 pops in with her) and i go to bed alone. i decided to surf porn and do a hand-party.

day 21, tue / 29 jan.

- friend 29 see photo, age 25 (?) , cof / faux cim. 2 pops in 3 rounds.

total b 1, 590 = lt b 1, 500 + food b 90.

overall a = service a + face c + body b.

at 04:00 met her on ws she quoted me lt b 1, 500, i was drunk so fell asleep before i popped during round 1, at 08:00 round 2 with a cof / faux cim pop 1, at 11:00 we have lunch and 12:00 round 3 pop 2, at 14:00 denied a bj and she was pissed i was trying to get another bj / round / pop out of her, saying angrily 'what you think i am! ' since i was overworking her. sidenote: during one of the rounds when i was trying to slide in the backdoor she said she'the only do backdoor if i would pay her lt b 3, 000 (so a b 1, 500 cherry backdoor entrance surcharge) , which i opted out of.

day 22, wed / 30 jan.

- friend 30 see photo, age 19, had a miscarriage so was never a mother, cim.

total b 620 = st b 500 + tip b 100 + ice tea b 20.

overall a = service a + face d + body c.

at 20:00 met her at the 1st thai bar to the left of jasmine hotel (kabtiwan bar, i think) , i wanted a bj and she quoted me st b 500, she didn't want to get naked / take off her bra / panties but did so when i insisted, originally only going to accept body paint (or cof?) but then she decided to accept cim since i was taking so long to finish (cim is a big incentive for me to finish faster).

- friend 31 gai see photo, age 21 (?).1 pop in 1 round.

total b 555 = st b 500 + heineken b 45 + taxi b 10

overall a = service a + face f + body a.

gogo-hop until 23:00. around 23:30 at cb she quoted me st b 500, lt b 1, 000 i said i'll take lt and she agreed to departing about 8 am, says 3 months ago she quit working supergirls gogo (not sure if i believe that, she has a supergirls type body but she had a really bad facial complexion which i guess enough make-up could conceal). in my room before i can do round 1 at midnight los time i had to call my job recruiter in california (i've been unemployed since may 2010; probably sometime in 2013 i'll start working again). her and i finally get it on and at the end of it she says she had 2 orgams which (if that's even true) i was completely oblivious to. she does a good bbbj but supergirls gogos (and ex-ggs from there?) would only do cbj (at least in my case) so i further doubt that she worked supergirls before even though she does have a perfect spinner hourglass figure which compensated for her face.

- friend 32 pat aka miss shorty (prettier, translator, didn't let me take a photo of her front side) & friend 33 ban aka miss token see photo, both age 20

miss shorty overall a = service a + face a + body b.

miss token overall a = service a + face c + body c.

each lady total b 780 = st b 750 + drink b 30.

at 03:30 (or was it 04:30?) saw miss shorty inside insomnia (about an hour before that saw her pass thru ibar and thought to myself "would love to have a lt with her") and she was friendly when i approached. i only wanted her but she wanted me to get them both and she quoted me that for both of them lt b 2, 500, st b 1, 000. they convince me to take both of them and we leave insomnia about 04:00. they leave my place about 05:30. both are dancers at private dancer gg (which is affiliated with babydolls gg with similar bf policy of bf's dropping to b 300 after 01:30).

07:30 go to sleep alone.

day 23, thu / 31 jan.

- friend 14 bf2 tac see photo. 4 pops in 6 rounds.

lt.

11:30 wake up.

17:00 bf her and asked that she not put on make-up which she happily complied with, went to hotel for round 1 with pop 1.

18:45 just missed sunset but still walked cb up to around soi 12 (i wanted to walk to soi 6 before turning back but too many puddles from the earlier rain) then went thru soi diana, lk metro & finally to

19:30 foot massage b 100 per person for 1 hour on soi buakhao,

20:30 pa card at 3som beerbar, billabong with live band,

22:00 returned to ws / jasmine for round 2 with pop 2.

00:00 airport gogo.

00:45 happy gogo.

01:30 insomnia, tons of hot fls (whenever i'm with my lady there are available fl hotties everywhere&61516.

03:00 returned to jasmine for round 3 but i fell asleep before i had a pop.

08:00 round 4 with pop 3.

11:00 round 5 and lost erection and didn't bother to try and pop since i wanted to conserve my power.

13:00 round 6 with pop 4.

15:00 she leaves so she can go home, get a change of clothes & be ready / at work at 17:00.

day 24, fri / 1 feb, buddy 1's arrival 2.

friend 34 may see photo, age 21 has a kid, cof. 1 round 2 pops.

total b 1, 520 = lt b 1, 500 + taxi b 20.

overall a = service a + face b + body d.

day 25, sat / 2 feb,

- friend 35 see photo, age 18, 2 rounds 2 pops, overall.

dream bar pim (1)

day 26, sun / 3 feb, yolo but i sleep alone.

friend 36 ying fl'the 2 (fl'the her a 2nd time)

lt b 1, 000 that became a st b 500 when i evicted her for insisting that i perform cunnilingus. as a man-working girl if she offered me money i'the do it, but when i'm the employer i ain't daty and risking another gonorrhea (or worse) infection of my eye (s) , which was what happened in pi in 2010.

at this point my friends 36 – 40 are completely out of order as i had been with some of them prior to sun / 3 feb but i forgot (mainly because i didn't have a photo of them; chronological-order pics helps me remember the sequence of friends.)

friend 36 i had st b 500 for a bbbj (and cim?) when buddy 2 was in town giving dd a 2nd chance.

day 28, mon / 4 feb.

friend 37 st b 700 + tip b 40.

i have no idea who this is.

- friend 38 pen see photo, kid but affect on boobs / stomach unnoticeable, red point bar,

total b 1, 195 = ld b 95 + bf b 300 + st b 700 + tip b 100

overall value a = service a + face b + body a + total b 1, 195 ($40)

the photo of pen is from bm sinbad. in his posting he recommended several soi 6 ladies and i ended up being with pen of red point bar.

- friend 14 tac see photo, bf'the 3.

lt

day 29, tue / 5 feb, buddy 1's departure 2.

- friend 40 namwon age 19 at lisa bar (between red point & nightwish)

total b 1, 200 = bf 300 + b 800 + tip b 100.

overall value a = service a + face a + body b + total b 1, 200.

- friend 14 tac see photo, bf'the 4.

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can't remember what date for:

- friend 39 ae at red point.

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[Mr Enternational]

By 'girlfriend experience' I mean stuff like kissing, holding hands, cuddling up to each other, eye contact and being playful in the bedroom."Exactly. Shit you are not going to get and most probably would not want from the average hooker in their home country. I always thought the term was self-explanatory."She made it seem as if she was my girlfriend and not just some hooker off the street."

[Dante2]

I am one of the guys that was there with Mr E at X Zone. It started at 1:30am. We were late but still caught it. It was a lezzie show and much more. The girls would put a condom on your hand and let you explore. Others were shooting darts out of their pussies. Another put half a beer bottle in her pussy. All the while I'm viewing this, a girl is stroking my dick, but I was determined then not to pay any barfines in Pattaya, Now, I'm thinking about going there tonight and paying the barfine for one of those freaks. All I know about the location of the place is that its upstairs. I seem to get lost on "Walking street" every night LOL.Thank you, upstairs makes sense because I walked past and saw this place in the day and only saw the open air bar downstairs and wondered if they really did full shows right there in the open, LOL

Do you have to pay a cover to get upstairs? Buy a bunch of drinks or ladies drinks? How long does this show last?

Thanks again

[Dante2]

This is a guy who thinks $10 Cambodia hookers are hot and cute.

This is a guy who walked up and down suk. In BKK for 2 hours looking for the hottest streetwalker he could find. He ended up with a $20 one. Must be from the same school of the guy who claims models walk sukhumvit. LOL.I usually paid $20 for 2 times (but I don't make them wait 5 hours between fuks like you) and yes many of them were cute and hot, and contrary to what you believe not every girl in cambo smokes ice, I had one regular who did often the only reason I kept going with her is because she was a solid 7. 5, probably fukked her 40 times in 7 months and she never screwed me over.

In BKK I paid 1100 baht for 2 times with the hottest girl I saw there in 2 hours of walking, she was nothing fantastic only about a 7, never once did I claim she was a model, but your not one to ever let facts get in the way of your post.

Ill let wildhawk fill in the rest of my post for me after pointing out that it also is no surprise to anyone that you have no clue what girlfriend experience means.


Harold, For those of us who have been around, like two minutes or longer, on these boards. It is hardly surprising your girls don't want to stick around you 2 Luv U Long Time. It's enough to suffer reading through five or six words of your pithy comments, let alone putting yourself in the place of the sad ladies must deal with both your repartee and the shriveled Johnson.

[Margaya]

I decided to check out Pattaya this time as I have never been there but visited BKK so many times.

Arranged taxi from Pattaya-taxi. Com for 1200 be per trip. Excellent service, taxi arrived at sharp time I asked for, driver spoke no english but ride was very smooth and fast. 2 hours. New cars. Highly recommended.

Stayed at Hotel Jasmine. Initial impression of Pattaya was a disaster. Hotel was too basic, no electric kettle, small shower, no alarm clock, no night stand. I hated the city. Too muggy although a bit less humid. Went to check out soi6 around 4 PM with hard sun beating down. Lots and lots of girls, may be 4/5 that were do-able by my standards. But presence of too many coupled with hard sun and almost 90% humidity killed my appetite. Went back to hotel. Mosquitos. Damn, Told hotel, I will cancel next day's stay and checked out. They offered to spray the room which did the trick.

In the evening went to WS and BR. WS becomes a zoo after sun down. Tonnes of people, mostly farangs and lots of rowdy youngsters in groups. Hordes of Chinese visitors alighting from tourist buses. Girls dancing in front of bars and go go places. Most folks were from Russia followed by Europeans, north americans, Australians, Indians.

Walked the beach road. Easily hundreds of girls standing under coconut trees. This is where my perception of Pattaya started to change, there were at least3/4 that were pretty good and to my surprise the variety and quality was a bit better than FLs at BKK.

Came across a cutie Kita from Isaan with nice see cup boobs. In Thailand? Woohoo. 500 be per shot so took her to hotel. Well lets put it this was as soon as we initially made out, I told her to stay with me all night and I was sold on Pattaya. Had a fantastic noght withher and gave her 1500 be in the morning. A bit too much I know but I was in 7th heaven.

Was so impressed by her that called her during 2nd night also. Saw a few Uzbeki girls on BR as well but they were al over the hill and usually on high. Overall BR is a fantastic place to monger due to sheer ease, variety / cost and abundent quantity to choose from. WS has very FLs.

Pattaya is a more of beach resort party town as compared to BKK which is more business like mongering destination with more options to do during day and night. But thr night life is superb in Pattaya.

[Tony Hoeprano]

Harold, For those of us who have been around, like two minutes or longer, on these boards. It is hardly surprising your girls don't want to stick around you 2 Luv U Long Time. It's enough to suffer reading through five or six words of your pithy comments, let alone putting yourself in the place of the sad ladies must deal with both your repartee and the shriveled Johnson.I actually don't really care for LT for the most part, sure there's a few girls who are OK to hang out with after I'm finished, but once I'm finished I"m more than happy to have her leave in peace so I can get on with more important things and not have to worry about almost being a pseudo babysitter. I mean seriously, what am I going to do with her, have a meaningful discussion on weather its better to bunt with runners ISP or swing away? LOL

[Mr Gogo]

Thank you, upstairs makes sense because I walked past and saw this place in the day and only saw the open air bar downstairs and wondered if they really did full shows right there in the open, LOL

Do you have to pay a cover to get upstairs? Buy a bunch of drinks or ladies drinks? How long does this show last?

Thanks againNo cover, no requirement for drinks for you or the ladies. There is also another strip club below it that will try to snatch you. It is not directly on "Walking street" but a few steps up a side street. Actually the show has been going on everytime I have gone. Its just one of those freaky places to visit. Good luck.

This morning I went and had a massage for 300bht for an hour. The girl even sucked me off the last 15 minutes. Damn! What a deal, ten dollars for an hour massage and blow job. If you need her name and location pm me. I might go visit it again in a couple days and can't publicly expose it now.

I also had my first soapie at a place on second road. It was 2000bht for 90 minutes and one of the best times of my trip.

I've been with three SW I picked up late night on Beach road. It was hit and miss. One girl only wanted to do mish. Another girl went ballistic when I spit on the condom LOL. Another turned into GFE for my first two days until she over-played her hand and I had to tell her"No" and get to stepping. I've learned that here in "Pattaya" there is no standard, understood way as I first assumed. I now make sure EVERY detail is spelled out when dealing with SW. Will I get a BBBJ? Will I get multiple positions, Will you be aggressive in your approach. Being this is my first time I neglected to be naive thinking that the basic were understood.

Overall I have had a ball so far and can now say "Pattaya" will be my top destination. Next stop AC.

[Mouse1]

1) I tried uploading and got.

"LOS 2013 Trip 1 Report. DRAFT 1. Docx. Upload of file failed."

"LOS 2013 Trip 1 Report. DRAFT 1. Pdf. Upload of file failed."

I've e-mailed the files to some BMs so if you have a copy of my files, feel free to upload them to ISG on my behalf. Thanks in advance.I'll bet there is some really interesting stuff written here. One day when I am old and have a spare couple of days I'll sit down with my pipe and slippers and read it.

[Crazy4Thai]

I'll bet there is some really interesting stuff written here. One day when I am old and have a spare couple of days I'll sit down with my pipe and slippers and read it.I was exactly like you with his first couple of posts. I did wade through about half of this one and you are right. There IS some good stuff in there. Too bad he doesn't know how to prioritize or hire an editor. He could be a top contributor.

[Dr BJ]

For a new person aspiring to be the guy who wrote the long report. Ne careful. LOL.

1. Seems not want to get std of the eye. But other std he ok with. LOL. BBBJ?

Yadda yadda yadda! I know its guys and hookers do! Up 2 you as they say!

2. If you need a strategy where you leave your hotel room to pay and are ready to bolt to security to help you rid of the girl you need to pick better girls. Picking up a nutter once in a blue moon ok, but regularly? Come on now!I can't even make sense of what you are trying to say here? Harold is there any chance you could translate this into English? Actually on second thoughts don't bother.

Regards,

BJ

[George300]

I'll be coming to Thailand in the next couple weeks for the first time and I've been reading lots of news stories about men getting drugged then robbed back in their hotels. Which girls are the ones to watch out for? The freelancers and ladyboys right? The gogo and bar girls are safe right? I'm smart with my drinks but I'm kinda scared now, to order a drink in a gogo or something. I don't want this to be me http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2013/02/26/drugged-turks-cleaned-out-by-thieving-*****s/ What should I look out for and what should I avoid?

[Amex Spg]

i was exactly like you with his first couple of posts. i did wade through about half of this one and you are right. there is some good stuff in there. too bad he doesn't know how to prioritize or hire an editor. he could be a top contributor.for you bms, add me to your "ignore this member's posts" or whatever that function is on isg.

since i've been unemployed a few years now & a cc, i can't afford to / won't hire an editor so here's my edition of:

amex '13 trip 1 prioritized edit.

- in 29 days had 40 wgs of which 1 bf'd lt from a gg. 4 bf'd st at s6, 1 at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900). 3 at bliss, some bf'd st / lt from bbs, the rest fl'd st / lt from ws, br, soi buakhao, central festival mall.

- paid st 500 to 1, 000, lt 1, 000 to 3, 000, and applicable bfs if she wasn't a fl.

- took non-nude photos of about 10 of 'them. refer to my photos (which are embedded in my non-prioritized, non-edited tr).

- the end.

/

prioritized edit of the below: some bms are negative but those bms and me will just have to agree to disagree on what we post.

mostly my trs are written for myself so when i'm old, senile and impotent the nurse (s) can read them to me in the convalescent home.

my trs are also written for several audiences and i can't satisfy most of 'them (just like i can't satisfy most women, p4p or not) :

- my buddies, most of 'them non-mongers, who aren't on the monger boards but want to hear / read about my sexcapades.

- monger buddies.

- the newbies / noobs looking for insight into what happens in los (at least from my limited experience) over the course of a day & night.

- experienced punters who want to see things from my pov.

- et al.

the report is too long for most people so the best thing to do is skim down to the embedded photos. unfortunately all those photos are within the word / pdf files which i can't upload. and i'm not going to upload those photos (except for the one uploaded with this post which is a photo of the 1 wg i took nudes of) cause i'll only get more criticism (she's / they're ugly, she isn't / they're aren't naked, you're ugly, you aren't naked.).

attached (?) is one photo. though i've met some cool guys (mr. enternational, littlebigman, etc) thru isg, the negativity on it makes me want to not bother with / contribute to isg anymore and just use the other los monger board. i'm a negative guy, but i usually keep my snide comments to myself since i've learned that harsh criticism and backhanded compliments rarely makes the world a better place.

to the cool bms: if you want to meet up in patts sometime during 8 mar. 6 apr, pm me and i'll give you my thai cellphone number and e-mail address.

to every punter / bm out there, even the ones i disagree with: i would like to wish you a "good luck and happy mongering".

[Crazy4Thai]

For you BMs, add me to your "Ignore This Member's Posts" or whatever that function is on ISG.Amex Spg. Sorry if my comments sounded harsh. I do think you have some very interesting content in your FRs and I'd rather read your stuff than all the non reports on the Thai boards. No "Ignore" function for me. Keep writing man.

[Rjsss212]

What is your native language?


For a new person aspiring to be the guy who wrote the long report. Ne careful. LOL.

1. Seems not want to get std of the eye. But other std he ok with. LOL. BBBJ?

Yadda yadda yadda! I know its guys and hookers do! Up 2 you as they say!

2. If you need a strategy where you leave your hotel room to pay and are ready to bolt to security to help you rid of the girl you need to pick better girls. Picking up a nutter once in a blue moon ok, but regularly? Come on now!

[Dante2]

If you see a beautiful woman down Soi 4 or in nana area in general, she is either lost and took a wrong turn, a gogo girl coming back from a rendevous or a Lady Boy. There are no beautiful freelancers on Soi 4 or in nana area in general any more.

I added a little to what the good dr stated!Why do you keep using words like model and beautiful?

I said she was the hottest girl I saw walking that area of Bangkok for 2 hours, she was a 7, maybe a 7. 5 but I don't think thai girls are that hot and I was very happy to get the best I saw at a decent price

I've only been in Thailand for like a week total and the hottest girl I've seen was an 8.

[Dante2]

No cover, no requirement for drinks for you or the ladies. There is also another strip club below it that will try to snatch you. It is not directly on "Walking street" but a few steps up a side street. Actually the show has been going on everytime I have gone. Its just one of those freaky places to visit. Good luck.

Overall I have had a ball so far and can now say "Pattaya" will be my top destination. Next stop AC.Thank you again I have been looking for some freaky places to visit LOL, if you find the right girl here are they available?

Anyone know of any other strip clubs?

That sounded like a good massage, I don't like massages and have been curios if I could walk up to one of the massage girls and ask them "I don't want massage you give BJ 15 minutes then I leave for 500 ok?" and see what they say, I'm sure many would sya no but it only takes one, and now I know to start at 300

Tbh I'm not liking Pattaya much, I've been in cambo for awhile and imo cambo girls are hotter, nicer, sweeter, have less attitude and go for cheaper

To be fair it is harder to find girls that will give BJ's or are really good in the sack, but still you should put it on your to do list imo.

[RBDave]

It's been a year since my last visit to Pattaya and things have changed.

I met up with a friend who owns a bar to do a little a-go-go hopping. We went first went to an a-go-go on Walking street, however, I don't recall the name. While there, he pointed out that there is a new class of women (and barfines) in the a-go-gos these days, Coyote girls.

The name comes from the movie Coyote Ugly, an American movie that takes place in a bar with the same name where the girls dance on the bar. The reference is to waking up with someone sleeping on your arm so ugly, that you'd gnaw off your own arm to get away similar to how coyotes would gnaw off their legs to get out of a trap.

This now brings the number of bar fine categories up to four: dancing girls, coyote girls, showgirls, and wait staff.

The dancing girls are the girls you typically see topless or fully nude on stage. They typically now have the lowest bar fine. 600 baht.

The coyote girls are girls who dance on the stage, but don't remove their clothes at all. Their bar fines are higher. 1000 baht.

The next highest level are the show girls. They are the ones that perform the shows (lick pussy, ping pong balls,.). Their barfines are the highest starting at 1500-3000 and up.

The wait staff can have a barfine between that of dancing girls and coyote girls. The reason they charge so much is that the bars need the girls to stick around to serve customers. The same is true for the show girls and coyote girls. They get paid more from the bar and are meant to draw in customers.

You'd imagine that they would be hotter women, but that is not always the case.

Next, we went to Sensations a-go-go on walking street. In this place, the show girls were okay, and the coyotes were a little bit more attractive. However, I didn't see anything I liked, except one of the wait staff. She didn't handle out table, until it came time to pay our bill. When she asked if she went with customers, she said "sometimes". Not all wait staff go with guys, so it's a fair question.

Next we went to I believe it was Diamond a-go-go (or very near there). I was in this place the previous year. I saw a girl that I liked and she remembered me from the previous year. It is hard to believe that she could, but she pointed out where we were sitting and remembered that she didn't go with me (last year, when I wanted to BF her, she said she could not. My friend suggested she was on a course of antibiotics). This year, she's become a coyote, so she "doesn't show milk" in her words.

It looked like she was already spoken for, so I moved on alone.

I walked into Shark, a place I've had great success in the past. This was around midnight, but I didn't see any girls that I liked, so I quickly left without buying a single drink.

I headed down the street to Sapphire. This place had dancing, coyote, and showgirls. I was told the BF was 1000 for coyotes, and 600 for dancing girls. There was one coyote that I liked and had the wait staff bring her to me. Her name was Little Bit (Nit Noi). She was a slim 18 year old cutie with braces.

I bought her a lady drink and had a chat. She wanted 2000 for short time. I offered 1500 and she declined, a decision I'd later regret just a little bit.

I headed back to Sensations to find the staff girl. I bought her a drink and had to sit with me. When you do this, two things will happen. First the other wait staff will ask you to buy them drinks, which I hate. And second, the other wait staff make a little commotion as one of their own got picked over the dancing and coyote girls.

This girl was 27 (older than I expected) , but didn't have any kids or tattoos, which I asked about since she doesn't dance and you cannot see for yourself. When it came time to negotiate, she to wanted 2000 for short time. Her barfine was only 600. I offered 2500 for LT which she accepted.

I really liked her face and smile.

Back at my room, she seemed friendly enough, but she was dry and seemed to stay that way. I eventually had to bring out the astro glide. While she wasn't a DFE, but she was just an average lay.

Afterwards, I asked if she would prefer to take the short time fee and be on her way, which she did. It was about 2:30 and she said she couldn't sleep so "early". This is why I said I regretted not taking Little Bit as I ended up paying the same amount for ST. Although, I think her BF would have been 1000 even though she claimed it was only 600.

[Mr Enternational]

I don't like massages and have been curios if I could walk up to one of the massage girls and ask them "I don't want massage you give BJ 15 minutes then I leave for 500 ok?" and see what they say, I'm sure many would sya no but it only takes one, and now I know to start at 300That would be totally stupid is what it would be. People come here and lose their fucking mind. What if some random ladyboy came up to you and asked to fuck you in the ass and he would give you 500? I think you mean to go to a blow job bar, but it is going to cost you more than 500. Shit go to Beach Road for 500. Are you the type of guy that would go into McDonald's to get the brakes fixed on your car? Sure there may be a guy who works in McDonald's who is a mechanic as well, but you wouldn't just walk up to the counter and order that particular service.

[Dante2]

That would be totally stupid is what it would be. People come here and lose their fucking mind. What if some random ladyboy came up to you and asked to fuck you in the ass and he would give you 500? I think you mean to go to a blow job bar, but it is going to cost you more than 500. Shit go to Beach Road for 500. Are you the type of guy that would go into McDonald's to get the brakes fixed on your car? Sure there may be a guy who works in McDonald's who is a mechanic as well, but you wouldn't just walk up to the counter and order that particular service.First off calm down.

If the McDonalds also fixed your brakes when you were finished with your (happy) meal then I might ask to skip the meal and get right to the end.

These girls are sitting outside all day begging every guy to go with them and its not for a massage, I think some of them could be thrilled to have the chance to make some money in 15 minutes.

The guy just posted about getting an hour massage and 15 min BJ for 300 baht. You don't think the same girl would gladly skip the massage and give a BJ for 500?

[RBDave]

I was out and about and decided to go for an oil massage. I headed over to Soi 12 (aka Soi Honey) towards the back where they have a few massage places. To be honest, the girls there are certainly not top quality, especially in the afternoon, but I managed to find one that I liked, Loong from Paradise massage.

She was probably around 30 years old, and definitely had a baby, but her body was still okay.

Loong, claimed they also had a "smoking room", per someone else's question regarding getting a BJ only at a massage place. I like massage, so I decided on the massage plus FS option. The massage was 200 THB plus 1000 baht for sex.

Her massage was very poor. This place is definitely a brothel first and a massage place second. It didn't last very long before she asked me to turn over. Off came her clothes and we were off to the races. She didn't do BBBJ, only CBJ with prostate massage. The condoms they use are crap. It felt like I was wearing a water bottle on my cock.

Sex started out with her on top, but progressed to other positions. I popped and that was the end of that. Certainly was not a full hour, probably more like 40 minutes. But at least she showered with me to get the oil off my back.

I would not repeat with her, or even that establishment again. By the way, this place is just a short walk to Bliss lounge around the corner if you want a quicky BJ and are in the area. I think the girls at Bliss are better looking than the girls at Paradise.

I'm back in my room now recharging to get ready for a long night on the town hopping between a-go-gos with my friends.

[RBDave]

The first time I tried Viagra was over a decade ago. My uncle gave it to me to try it out. Of course, I didn't "need" it, but he told me to give it a try and I'm glad I did.

The first time I used it, it was interesting. I can't say my cock was harder than normal, but it was definitely easier to get and maintain an erection. Also during my first use, I was lucky enough to see the blue tinge noted as a side effect, which I've never seen since.

Years later I went to my doctor and told him,"I'm having trouble maintaining an erection." They don't do any sort of tests, they just hand out the samples like candy. He gave me Viagra and Cialis. The Cialis gave me a raging headache, not the raging hard on I was expecting.

In between those experiences, I managed to score some Kamagra in Thailand. It comes in two forms, pill form and gel form. The gel form comes in multiple flavors, I don't recommend banana. It has a foul flavor that makes me ill.

During this trip to Thailand, while I was in Bangkok, I went to a pharmacist who had sold me Kamagra in the past and asked if he had any, to which he said "No."

I tried a different pharmacy and she sold me four packets for 200 baht total.

However, when I tried it, it worked, but didn't seem to be as good as it had in the past. Am I getting to old I wonder. Do I really need vitamin V nowadays?

When I got to Pattaya, I asked my friend if he could get me some of the Kamagra gels he'd gotten before. He said, the market has dried up and now they sell the Thai version called Sidegra. We speculated that since there is now a Thai producer of the drug, all that's left is the counterfeit Kamagra which may or may not have the dosage stated.

I went into a pharmacy in Pattaya and asked for the Sidegra (actually, I said "Thai Viagra" because I didn't know the name). The pharmacist sold me a packet of four 100mg pills for 300 baht. I used it last night with my server girl. It seemed to be the real thing compared to the Kamagra I'd tried recently.

Note that if you try any of these drugs, the most notable side effect is a stuffy nose. Your nose has a similar structure as your cock that fills with blood to constrict the airflow to / from each nostril. This alternation between which nostril is restricted is called the nasal cycle. The medicine words on this the same way as it does on your cock causing them to fill with blood and restrict air flow.

Another side effect is a noticeable reddening of the face. I usually just say it's a combination of the alcohol and sun. Some girls don't like going with guys who have taken this medicine as they think you'll be pounding them for an hour.

[Mr Gogo]

That would be totally stupid is what it would be. People come here and lose their fucking mind. What if some random ladyboy came up to you and asked to fuck you in the ass and he would give you 500? I think you mean to go to a blow job bar, but it is going to cost you more than 500. Shit go to Beach Road for 500. Are you the type of guy that would go into McDonald's to get the brakes fixed on your car? Sure there may be a guy who works in McDonald's who is a mechanic as well, but you wouldn't just walk up to the counter and order that particular service.The funny part was that she was serious about finishing the massage, but my dick was hard and I was going to get off one way or another. She started starring at my dick and asked " Do you want some help with that?". After she finished sucking she grabbed some lotion and finished me off. When I was getting ready to shoot all I could do was nod my head because I didn't want everyone to hear me growl. Kind of reminded me of my teenage years when I would sneak a girl into the basement and we had to be quiet because Mom was upstairs LOL.

[Western787]

Some girls don't like going with guys who have taken this medicine as they think you'll be pounding them for an hour.After 4 hours bar girls are instructed to call the doctor. After 8 hours the police.

[Mngweco]

The first time I tried Viagra was over a decade ago. My uncle gave it to me to try it out. Of course, I didn't "need" it, but he told me to give it a try and I'm glad I did.

The first time I used it, it was interesting. I can't say my cock was harder than normal, but it was definitely easier to get and maintain an erection. Also during my first use, I was lucky enough to see the blue tinge noted as a side effect, which I've never seen since.

Years later I went to my doctor and told him,"I'm having trouble maintaining an erection." They don't do any sort of tests, they just hand out the samples like candy. He gave me Viagra and Cialis. The Cialis gave me a raging headache, not the raging hard on I was expecting.

In between those experiences, I managed to score some Kamagra in Thailand. It comes in two forms, pill form and gel form. The gel form comes in multiple flavors, I don't recommend banana. It has a foul flavor that makes me ill.

During this trip to Thailand, while I was in Bangkok, I went to a pharmacist who had sold me Kamagra in the past and asked if he had any, to which he said "No."

I tried a different pharmacy and she sold me four packets for 200 baht total.

However, when I tried it, it worked, but didn't seem to be as good as it had in the past. Am I getting to old I wonder. Do I really need vitamin V nowadays?

When I got to Pattaya, I asked my friend if he could get me some of the Kamagra gels he'd gotten before. He said, the market has dried up and now they sell the Thai version called Sidegra. We speculated that since there is now a Thai producer of the drug, all that's left is the counterfeit Kamagra which may or may not have the dosage stated.

I went into a pharmacy in Pattaya and asked for the Sidegra (actually, I said "Thai Viagra" because I didn't know the name). The pharmacist sold me a packet of four 100mg pills for 300 baht. I used it last night with my server girl. It seemed to be the real thing compared to the Kamagra I'd tried recently.

Note that if you try any of these drugs, the most notable side effect is a stuffy nose. Your nose has a similar structure as your cock that fills with blood to constrict the airflow to / from each nostril. This alternation between which nostril is restricted is called the nasal cycle. The medicine words on this the same way as it does on your cock causing them to fill with blood and restrict air flow.

Another side effect is a noticeable reddening of the face. I usually just say it's a combination of the alcohol and sun. Some girls don't like going with guys who have taken this medicine as they think you'll be pounding them for an hour.Where did you buy "thai viagra" pills 4 for 300?

[RBDave]

Where did you buy "thai viagra" pills 4 for 300?It was literally the first pharmacy I walked into in Pattaya. It was on second road headed towards Jomtien.

[Ehunter]

I have been busy throwing up a few posts over on the BKK threads but will be arriving in Patts today.

Been getting into the BJ bars in BKK and was wondering if somebody can save me some google time. The notes I have gathered are lacking info on BJ bars.

Can somebody list out some BJ bars that are noted to deliver service out in the open or semi out in the open areas? I am talking about standard practice for the establishment, not it can happen if kinds of scenarios.

Reports soon to follow.

[Amex Spg]

Can somebody list out some BJ bars that are noted to deliver service out in the open or semi out in the open areas? I am talking about standard practice for the establishment, not it can happen if kinds of scenarios.- Le Carre Blanc http://www.pattayafans.de/lecarreblanc-club-pattaya.htm (use Google Translate)

- The Telephone (bar / lounge / something) http://www.facebook.com/pages/Telephone-bar-club-pattaya/374152209327497

Little known places, I think both owned by Frenchmen, and supposed to be pretty good. As exhibitionism isn't my thing I haven't been to either.

A few places on Soi 6, I think My Friend You does it.

Also could be had at Babydolls GG (I've seen it done) , Windmill GG (I'm sure they do it, I've seen HJs given out) and probably X-Zone.

[John Huk]

I have been busy throwing up a few posts over on the BKK threads but will be arriving in Patts today.

Been getting into the BJ bars in BKK and was wondering if somebody can save me some google time. The notes I have gathered are lacking info on BJ bars.

Can somebody list out some BJ bars that are noted to deliver service out in the open or semi out in the open areas? I am talking about standard practice for the establishment, not it can happen if kinds of scenarios.

Reports soon to follow.I tried both Le Carre Blanc & The Telephone last month while I was there, the quality of the women in Le Carre Blanc is a little better than The Telephone IMO but in both places the women are good to joke around with besides doing the obvious with.

[RBDave]

Last night, this morning, I went on an organized pub crawl. Basically, the organizer makes arrangements with the bars' owners in advance which get us all two for one drinks. In return, we have to maintain a fairly strict schedule.

Last night, the crawl included Rhrino, Roxy, Living dolls, Sensations, and Sugar baby. We spent 40 minute in each place starting at 9pm. There was another one in there that I've forgotten about because the crawl officially ended at 1am.

It's kind of difficult to remember which places were which as there was excessive drinking. I do remember a stunning girl in Roxy. She is a "show girl" mentioned in a previous post of mine meaning a high bar fine. Since it was early in the night, I wanted to keep crawling with the group In Living Dolls, I bought some drinks for another hot woman. She was a "coyote". In Sensations, I bought my server last night a drink.

Up until then, the girls were fairly passive. Meaning, they waited until the guys asked for them to sit with them before asking for drinks. However, in Sugar Baby, that changed. Sugar Baby has two stages and a tub. The stage is divided into two with have it having dancers, and the other have a two girl show. The show is basically simulated sex. One of our group was eating one of the girls pussy on stage. But I didn't find it all that entertaining. When it comes to two girls shows, I want to see the girls lick each other and / or use toys.

There was another small stage with another couple of show girls doing the same thing.

I sat near the tub where the girls basically wash each other. Those girls saw I was alone and invited themselves to sit with me. I was okay with that as they did not ask for lady drinks, however offered them both drinks. One of them even took my second (free) drink, after asking if she could. She gets nothing from this as this was part of my bogo. I bought her LD as well.

Anyhow, one of the girls was kind of aggressive sexually. Very suggestive, putting my hand on her pussy. Given that she just. Came from the shower, I'd figured she would have been clean, but to be honest, her pussy smelled just a bit. Too bad, I thought she was the cutest of the show girls (show girls are not usually the cutest girls in the club).

This ended our scheduled program and a few of us continued to Sapphire. I had told my friend about Nit Noi and he wanted to check her out. While in Sapphire, our bogo deal was gone, but the owner bought us a round of Sambuca. Nit Noi had already been bar fined. In this bar, the wait staff was trying to push some girls onto us. I don't care for this, I much rather tell them which girl would like to have come sit with me. After 1:30, there were still plenty of girls there, and some really nice looking. However, they all sat in the corner as far away from customers as possible and seemed to be completely disinterested in us. Time to move on.

Next we went to Private Dancer. Within a very short amount of time, the mamasan brought a couple of girls over to us and pushed them on us. They were not unattractive, but again, I don't like this MO. However, Annam, the girl with me (tall and slim) had a story. It was her first night in Pattaya. Before she worked in a factory. This was according to the mamasan as her English was nonexistent. Since it was after 1:30, I was told all bar fines were 300 baht.

My concerns about Anna were her lack of experience and English. So we moved on to Misty's.

In Misty's it get getting kind of late. There is a girl there I like (the one from the previous year, I think her name is Gaew) , but she had such an attitude problem. My friend went over to talk with her, but she had a foul look on her face like she was angry with the world. Who knows what happened, but I imagine some guy was buying her drinks and wanted to BF her but offered her 500 baht. He told me that while she's got a smoking body (and very pretty face, I might add) , he assured me she is Psycho and since this wasn't a good night for her, don't bother.

Okay. After that, I decided to take my chances with Anna as she could be a diamond in the rough, so I headed back to Private Dancer.

I had her sit with me again and bought her another lady drink. Again, she didn't speak English, so I had the mamasan translate. I offered 1500 baht for short-time, but wanted 2000.

I thought this was too high, especially for an untested girl. The mamasan was trying to make this a selling point. I told her, it's not like she is a virgin, just inexperienced. She then told me I couldn't find a virgin in e. This is not entirely true, but that's not the point I was trying to make. I was trying to tell her that her inexperience does not warrant a premium price. At this point I'd given up on her. Maybe some guy wants to be a girl's "first" foreigner and are willing to pay extra, but not me.

By the way, I suspect her lack of English skills contributed to the lack of successful negotiations. During discussion, the mamasan said if I take her and she's not good, then I can pay 1500, but if she is good then I should pay 2000. This tells me the girl is willing to go for 1500, but since another person (the mamasan) is aware of the price, she would lose face if she agreed to 1500 for me. I believe if we were speaking alone, she may have been more willing to go for 1500.

By this time, it was after 3 am and now many of the bars were closing, so I was resolved to stay alone for the night. However, I stopped in I-Bar for some after hours fun. While there, three women stopped at my table and I started buying them drinks. They were not as hot as some of the women in the bars, but I enjoyed the company.

After a few rounds, the one closest to me and most interesting (dancing and talking) started asking if they could go home with me. I told her, I wasn't into three women at once. And to be honest, two girls at once isn't that great to me unless they are lesbians. It amounts to paying twice the amount so girls can do half the work.

When I got the one girl, Ort, back to my room, she seemed very friendly, but it became very business like quickly.

She wouldn't do BBBJ, and insisted on CBJ. I told her I didn't want CBJ, but she took this as me insisting on BBBJ. So she asked if I could give her taxi money to go. In retrospect, I should have, but I told her I still wanted to fuck her.

She started CBJ (which I told her I didn't want) and then we moved onto fucking. She hopped up on top and rode my CG for a while.

Fucking her wasn't that great. Her biggest problem was her loose pussy. Her rhythm could also use some improvement. Being over 30 and watching her dancing, I expected a little more from her. But she didn't seem to know what guys like. I sent her on her way with 1500 as the sun was coming up.

All in all, the night cost me close to $200. I had a great time and have some good memories, but the sex could have been better.

[JesseJames]

It was literally the first pharmacy I walked into in Pattaya. It was on second road headed towards Jomtien.Did you think they worked exactly as good as genuine Viagra?

[Dan7373]

After 4 hours bar girls are instructed to call the doctor. After 8 hours the police.The effects of Viagra usually last only for one hour. You would need to keep taking more Viagra pills to stay hard for longer than one hour.

But you need to be careful in banging the ladies, when you stay hard for a long time. Because latex condoms can easily rub the lady the wrong way and cause her some pain and discomfort. Plenty of lube is what you need at first, and then some splashes of water, when the lube dries out.

Most ladies won't tell you, when the lube is insufficient, and they are feeling uncomfortable. They just want to end it with you, without telling you why. You need to have some understanding and imagination to guess on your own what's going on and make sure that you aren't injuring the lady, when you are having sex with her.

[RBDave]

Did you think they worked exactly as good as genuine Viagra?Yes I think so. Since this is a cheaply manufactured product, the likelihood of counterfeits coming on the market is lessened. So you are more likely to get product that has the full dosage.

I also find the effects last up to a day. Meaning I get erections more easily. For example, during a foot massage when they start to apply pressure to the front of the upper thigh, I can feel the blood rushing to my cock. Then that makes me think about and erection, then I get a full blown erection.

Normally that would not turn me on.

[RBDave]

The effects of Viagra usually last only for one hour. You would need to keep taking more Viagra pills to stay hard for longer than one hour.I think this is incorrect. Viagra doesn't automatically give you an erection. If you take Viagra and are not turned on at all, you won't get an erection. For example, after I cum, I go flaccid regardless of how long it's been since I've taken the pill. But I'll be ready for round two quicker than without.

Also, as I said in another post, I believe I can still feel the effects of Viagra for a full day. But they diminish over time.

[HenryV]

Con to me, just took him too long to recognize it. Suspicion should be the word of the day in this town.


Doesn't seem like a con to me. Seems like you offered to pay for refreshments for someone. If not, when it was time for the bill why didn't you ask for separate checks? Why would you need anyone to introduce you to a woman in Pattaya as much pussy as it is walking around here? (and a woman who doesn't even speak English when apparently you don't speak Thai.) And why in the hell would you need insurance here? I don't know what kind of insurance you were into, but I think I pay about $3 / year for the insurance on my motorbike. You could have rented a bike for damn near 1 month for 2000 baht. I've never even seen a meal here that costs 2000 baht. In a couple of hours I'm about to go eat lunch for 50 baht. Wake up dude, this ain't Kansas.

[HenryV]

In this milieu, your paying them to leave.


You my new hero. How fast you disappoint me we shall see.

I said before girls who genereally go long time are not getting shortimed! Why? They're just not that appealing.

Say you lt a girl at 11pm. You go back hotel have sex. What the hell do you do from say midnight to 4-5 in the morning when you get your second shot at sex (Who wants sex at 4am anyway. LOL). You can't tell me you all lovey dovey cuddling for that 5 hours.

I believe girl is just praying some excuse will get her out or just pass time playing with her iphone.

I think when guys say they got GFE it means sex was allowed. And it was good. Thats all.

I'm no expert on long times, I've never done one, just conceptually doesn't make sense to me.

[HenryV]

useless and self serving.

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"los 2013 trip 1 report. draft 1. docx. upload of file failed."

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los 2013 trip 1 report – draft 1. 1

trip 1 dates: 9 jan – 6 feb 2013 (29 days)

this report was updated 25 feb 2013

warning: this is all imho, ymmv. don't read this if you're easily bored or really critical.

feb 2010 at bkk nana parking lot an escort asked if i was 'retarded' and in may 2010 at vegas' olympic gardens strip club a dancer called me a 'retard. ' yes, i concur indubitably and this trip report (tr) is the same.

draft 1

- sat / 16 feb buddy 1 sent me an e-mail subject line 'los – getting that itch again. ' about 'another quick 5 day trip during the current month. ' i'm glad we didn't do feb because that would be crazy.

- sun / 17 feb buddy 1 calls me and after much contemplation and deliberations we decide to go in mar.

- 8 mar – 6 apr (30 days) i'll be doing los 2013 trip 2 (due to work or school buddy 1 can only meet me for 5 nights) so i don't have time to finish / edit this tr.

- after trip 2 i'll do the trip 2 report and finish this trip 1 report. thank you for your patience.

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http://www.pattayabarguide.com/

map of patts.

- approx exchange rate i'm using is b (aht) 30. 0 = us $1 (or b100 = $3. 40). i was in los 9 jan – 6 feb 2013. this trip report (tr) is easier to understand if you've read my previous trs especially 2011's.

- in past years i graded the friends too leniently and didn't really factor in pricing (what i got vs what i paid). grade a is great, b good, c ok, d bad, f is foul and money spent is indicated. overall value = service (50% weighted, gfe + low maintenance / easy negotiations + sex skills + other intangibles) + looks (face 25% weighted + body 25% weighted) vs cost i spent on her including bfs, lds, shopping.

- my ideal los escort has the looks of cpt eaw.

http://bit.ly/wldpaa

but fellates / performs coitus / is into it the same as mali.

http://bit.ly/wle0bq

and if she went for st < b 700, lt < b 1, 500 she'the be all as.

table of contents.

section 1: logistics / musings.

section 2: lady friends.

section 3:

section 1: logistics / musings.

- monger map of patts.

http://www.pattayabarguide.com/

- first read my 'los 2011 trip report' then 'los guide' for background / acronym info

- acronyms.

http://bit.ly/vizopp

or.

www.urbandictionary.com

bm = board member, red bill = b 100 ($3. 40) , green bill = b 20 ($.70) , cpt / asd / asm / aas / acp / eta = creampiethais, asiansuckdolls, asianstreetmeat, asianappleseed, asiancandypop, exploitedteensasia websites.

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www.thaifriendly.com

www.dateinasia.com

i don't try to date / bed regular women on monger trips because: a) i have no game (otherwise i'the be dating in the us) , be) it's less effort just to hire an escort.

- getting phone numbers is mostly pointless as i rarely want a repeat or 90% of the time she doesn't want a repeat with me / doesn't respond to my texts / calls. if i need to save digits i need notes to remember which escort is which so on my cellphone i'll save 'pimbr, ' 'menachina, 'yingfake, ' 'luk65@silver' who is # 65 at ws new silver star 3 (?) gg.

- prevent a runner.

http://bit.ly/x9jq73

there's 2 parts to dealing with runners.

1) prevention: during negotiations ideally i'm not distracted (by being tired, drunk or horny) but that's rarely the case. in negotiating i would make her repeat in english that 'yes, i smoke no condom. lt b x, xxx' and i make sure she understands / repeats 'lt b x, xxx, if st you only pay b 500. '

2) resolution: she turns out to be a runner / f performer and to prevent her from wrecking my room / stuff for docking her pay when she's about to leave my room i get dressed / ready to leave, we both exit my room (i might have to say 'i pay you here, ' gesture to the hallway and let her see that the baht is in my hand) and lock the room behind us. so now in the hallway / on the way to the reception desk she can throw any tantrum but at least my room / stuff is safe. i give her the reduced pay, an explanation if she needs one ('you no smoke, ' 'no finish in your mouth, ' 'you say lt but you do st, i give you st b 500, same-same before i say st b 500') , if she flips out i can get the hotel reception / security to escort her out.

- i do prefer to pay the escort what we agreed upon and to receive consummate service, a win-win, rather than having to deduct her pay for subpar performance.

- bm said bkk best x / see rate superrich (chit lom bts)

http://www.superrichthailand.com/editor/rate.html

- reputable taxi companies.

http://www.paradise-pattaya.com/taxi-to-pattaya.html

- in patts i stayed at secrets rm 307 superior (not worth the extra b 100 / night over a deluxe) , rm 108 deluxe, canterbury tales rm 402 (buddy 1 in rm 401) , topoli restaurant & guesthouse b 1, 000 / night 'big room' (rm 7?) , jasmine rm 414 then rm 307 b 900 / night (deluxe). will never stay at topoli again even though it's a great location (ws soi 14@second road) and manager gave me the big room (really a suite, queen bed in bedroom + twin-size bed in living room) for discounted b 900 / night. the room had 2 tvs but neither worked / received the satellite channels and worst ant problem i've seen in a patts budget hotel room (whereas some ants usually just around bathroom sink and tolerable). neither buddy 1 nor i will stay at canterbury tales again because we realized how much better a ws located hotel is, our canterbury rooms were unacceptable (mine=crap wi-fi connection, his=funky latrine smell, both rooms=even though the samsung a / see units were new they were very irritatingly noisy). if only the rooms at canterbury & topoli were as great as their staff. sanya nightstar & jasmine continue to be my favorite places to stay.

- my night in bkk stayed at soi nana dynasty inn rm 313 which had useless wi-fi reception. next time i'll try 'bean & blanket inn' coffee shop / guesthouse between dynasty & nep (nana entertainment plaza).

- soi buakhao in between soi lk metro & soi diana i like to use good day massage or the place across from them as it's b 100 for a 1 hr foot massage. corner of second road@south pattaya road there's a b 150 for a 1 hr foot massage but the masseuse kept asking me to also get an oil massage (which usually entails me having to get naked, be vulnerable to a hj special up sale). if i'm going to get a special (and i no longer do as at a mp as it's a poor value, being in a cramped curtained off area with little privacy, other customers hearing me get a hj / bj / fs) , i would do it at 'up to you' mp or the one next to it (both on soi 11/'soi honey' off second road, where honey body massage is) as they have women i find attractive. alas, the 'up to you' masseuses would only do st on premises. their specials consisted of hj b 500, bj b 800, fs 1, 000 + the b 200 for the 1 hr thai / oil massage.

- soi 6 is the best value if i'm using a business / employee to get a st as it's b 1, 000 = st lady b 700 + bf b 300 including use of the room upstairs (which alone is a b 200 – b 300 value on ws or outside soi 6). additionally, her and i will usually shower together (either in ensuite bathroom or bathroom down the hallway) and have a private bedroom (with a bed, sometimes with a sofa / love seat / easy chair, strategically placed mirrors, maybe porn playing on the tv / dvd player). br fl at b 500+ (and of course no bf since she's a fl) is the cheapest deal but you then go to your hotel or use a st room (ps guesthouse on br soi 13/1 'soi yamato', last i heard was b 200 for st).

- in 2011 (?) i had a soi 6 lady quote me total b 800 = st lady b 500 + bf b 300 and she was ok looking but unfortunately had a kid. i took her up on the offer and it was a good deal based on her performance. nowadays soi 6 ladies sometimes quote me b 1, 300 = st lady b 1, 000 + bf but that's usually easily negotiable to the standard st lady b 700.

- bm called it 'saggy mom tits' but i'll just say the milfs have 'affected boobs / tits' (really soft, droopy, unattractive) and / or 'affected stomach' (significant stretch marks on her belly). if she's a thai milf escort. 95% chance she has one or both problems so my main deal breaker usually is if she's a mom.

- this & future trs is for 2 different monger boards i post on, buddies who can't / won't go to los, and as a reference so i can remember certain details such as lessons learned and what mistakes not to repeat.

- i actually learned a few thai phrases. 'mai ao krap' seems to be the magic phrase to turn away touts and on my last night when i was on soi 6 i said it to a couple of lbs and they immediately left me alone.

– canned lines / jokes i tell the ladies:

l: 'what your name? ' me: 'my name chuckwow [masturbate]. '

l: 'where you from? ' me: 'you know udon? ' (udon thani is a large city in isan)

- i've been to bkk nov 2000, dec 2006, feb 2010, may 2012 and jan 2013. been to patts apr 2007, oct 2008, feb 2010 (which i consider my belated 2009 trip) , apr 2010, may 2012 and jan 2013. now that i've tried high season (great weather) , i will never be in patts again during that time (i would rather spend my limited funds in ac, pi in jan / feb). lots of cute ladies but too many guys which outnumbered them at discos marine, insomnia & maybe even lucifer. in may 2012 i was paying fls about st b 500 – b 700, lt b 1, 000 – b 1, 200 but in jan / feb 2013 the fls were adamant about st b 700 – b 1, 000 and lt b 1, 500 – b 2, 000. those prices are reasonable for the hotties but even the fuglies expected it.

- i get uglier every year but i still expect the escorts to quote me reasonable retail prices. reasonable is bgs lt b 1, 000 – b 1, 500 and ggs st b 2, 000, lt b 3, 000, fls st b 500 – b 1, 000, lt b 1, 500 – b 2, 000. having a bg quote me lt b 3k, a soi buakhao papagayo coyote dancer quote me st b 3k, lt b 4k, or a c / d fl decline my initial st b 500 offer (which i could raise up to st b 700 if she's friendly enough) at 07:00 because she gets paid st b 1k – b 1. 5k, aside from the fact that high-balling me means that they prefer to not go with me, apparently there are enough johns out there hiring her that i'm not even worth negotiating with or quoting a reasonable initial price.

- may – sep is the best value in patts (bonus with the hotels having discounted low season rates) , followed by shoulder seasons of mar – apr or oct – nov when weather's ok & prices / qtty of women fair.

- this trip my return plane tix was about $200 since i used airline miles (no more free tix in the foreseeable future). and i spent about total $4, 350 = in 29 days that's $150 / day = $35 / night for a hotel + $115 / day for fun. by myself i tried to keep expenses down by getting early a ws / br fl for lt b 1, 500 ($50) and hang out in my room for the night (+ cost of feeding her) , but there was at least one night i went gg / bb hopping by myself 20:00 – 23:00 and managed to spend an excessive b 2, 500 ($84) on my drinks and only 2 lds that i recall.

- i could cut expenses by drastically reducing my over tipping habit. b 20 each morning to the housekeeper x 28 nights = b 560 ($19) during my trip i give out that most other guests (hailing from countries where, like los, tipping is uncommon / unexpected) , which could pay for a fl st. giving out b 20 at the rate of 4+ times a day (to gg / bb service staff / bartenders / strippers / people i buy b 30 – b 40 / dish food from) = b 80 ($3) – b 300 ($10) per day = up to b 8, 700 ($290) during my trip i give out when i don't need to, b 8, 700 enough to pay for 8 soi 6 visits. i know i should kick this bad habit but i'm going to mostly stick with this over tipping problem. at least it's not as expensive a vice as gambling.

- so i decided to (in addition to avoiding buying lds, paying bfs avoiding subpar ggs such as las vegas or beaver ggs) only tip (attractive) dancers who show nudity (either topless or full) , only patronize real ggs which have nudity (not faux-ggs which are mostly / entirely coyotes such as soi buakhao papa gg / papagayo, soi lk metro's club blu, sugar sugar, showgirls, ws teazers) and not bounce around so much (in the past i'the be in a gg for < 10 minutes before i'm off to the next one). exception to the rule is when my buddies want to visit those places, hence me and buddy 1 did spend lots of time in lk metro lady love gg (or as i like to call it: lady not love me as this one agency / contract coyote i wasted a ld on said that when she does go with customers she's paid lt b 3k – b 5k; she was hot in a bikini but i wanted to see her nude (eg at least topless) before i agreed to lt b 3k + bf 1. 5k before midnight, bf 1k after).

- some bms say patts has gone downhill over the years, but the accurate answer is that it's just changed. x / see rate has gotten worse, but 10+ years from now it'll be even worse for us westerners. fls ask and receive more for st / lt but if it gets to the point that fl pricing = bb / gg ladies pricing, i'll opt for more bgs / ggs and less fls (who have a slightly higher risk of thievery, stds, etc). if i'm going to pay lt b 2. 5+ i would prefer to see the lady nude first, which is the case with a gg. if br fls seriously expect st b 1k+ then i'll just use soi 6 more so. since 2007 positive changes in patts include more malls (central festival, the avenue) , insomnia+ibar (from its smaller, original insomnia place) , tourist police (i'm glad there's a westernized auxiliary to the bib) , more good ggs (their kinda small but there's spanky's bada-bing, ginza, mandarin) , that babydolls gg next door's affiliate just opened private dancer (which has babydolls policy of after 01:30 the bfs drop to b 300) , windmill gg affiliate sugarbaby just opened and the huge sensations gg opened on 4 feb but when i went on 5 feb they had the ugliest welcome girls and the ladies inside were ok. so i try to ignore the bad stuff: agency / contract girls (eg at showgirls & it's affiliate (?) lady love) , more coyote dancers & less nudity (including 'i love ny' gg which i don't think will last, just like the 2 previous ggs / coyote places in that location previously) , fl prices creeping up at least when i approach them. i think lighthouse & fahrenheit ggs are affiliates of tiger & shark ggs.

- if i recall correctly, pricing for an escort from bbs / ggs / soi 6 hasn't changed much since 2007. superbaby / supergirl gg is still bf b 600 ($20) and a fixed rate of st b 2k ($67) , lt b 3k ($100). bbs is still bf b 300 ($10) and (at least outside of high season) st b 500 – b 700 ($17. $23) , lt b 1k – b 2k ($34. $67). the happy group (baccara, happy, peppermint, beach, but unfortunately there 5th / newest one cavern closed after about a year) still has bf b 600 ($20) (in 2007 i think only happy & peppermint existed) and most ladies will still fairly easily accept st b 2k ($67) , lt b 3k ($100). i did notice that their wall posters now say 'ld b 120' ($4) whereas in 2012 it was 'ld b 115; ' still pretty reasonable. main reason prices really went 'up' was in early 2000s x / see rate was b 40 = $1 instead of current b 30 = $1.

- having bought the pa privilege card for b 250 (and it has no expiration date) turned out to be a good deal as i got 10% off at some places i like to go to (sapphire / babydolls / windmill ggs, lk metro's billabong / 3som bars, soi 6 nightwish) and the savings on my canterbury lodging (the cool owner applied the 10% discount to my room & my buddy 1's room reservations) alone saved b 250.

- my favorite ggs are all on ws:

1) tied are baccara with more hotties / cushy easy chairs but happy has the edge on party atmosphere

2) superbaby lots of nudity, hotties, their dead-stare which is to appeal to the jap clientele doesn't bother me and it's lesser sister gg supergirls which is really hit & miss.

3) casnovy like happy group has tons of nudity which is fairly attractive, transparent pricing with posted on the walls 'bf b 600' and 'ld b 110' and hot women such as 57, 67 and 46.

4) airport for the best party vibe but their aggressiveness (showergirls pestering me for red bills, waitresses hounding me for lds) is ridiculous, especially since they know that as a regular my usual reply is to hand coins to the showergirls & to waive 'no' to the ld requesters (i'll say 'mai ao krap' here on out)

5) usually i don't go for sleazy (banana shows, hjs / bjs in plain view, fisting) but i have to admit the most friendly / interactive / uninhibited ladies are at babydolls, windmill and x-zone.

- ws ggs i really like but try not to go to:

1) what's up gg has opaque pricing including no menu (on 2 visits i asked my waitress & both said 'no menu') but on a positive note a beer is the same price as a water or coke at an overpriced b 135 (?) , lds are either b 185 or b 225 (!). i asked the b / c looking showergirl 'how much? ' and she told me st bf 1k, lt bf b 2k + st lady b 3k, lt lady b 4k which showergirl or not is ridiculous. by comparison the airport ohm showergirl i liked was bf 1k and st b 2k, lt b 3k which i was really considering since ohm was a fun, attractive girl i had good chemistry with, but alas i was too cheap to spend that on a patts gg. still, at least in previous years what's up had a fun party atmosphere in a miami chic-white motif theécor gg.

2) iron: considering how many bolt-ons, all pretty similar, i saw those 2 nights i went they must be getting a group-rate discount from the plastic surgeon and they should re-name the gg 'silicone. ' layout's terrible but they have a bunch of hotties, especially if her 'milk original' isn't a priority.

- thoughts on ggs outside ws i went to this trip: lk metro vicinity champagne still the best (bonus of free pizza). of the new ggs of queen is pretty good, showgirls & lady love mostly coyotes at least the times i was there, paradise was terrible. the club oasis gg wasn't so good this time. on br near soi 7 & 8 the worldwide gg had mostly fat chicks, though the line-up was an improvement over 2011/2012.

- usual ailments on my los sojourns are insomnia, cold (starts with a sore throat, progresses to a cough / runny nose) , diarrhea. in the future i'll hit the pharmacy to get meds upon first symptoms showing.

- i'm not good at making new friends and i especially don't trust a working girl i've been with. yet in patts i have frenemy 1 ae (a ws fl i fl'the in 2007 and 2008) and frenemy 2 som (bf'the her in 2008 from worldwide gg when it was actually good; she now works airport gg). when i'm in town i'm always wary when they want to hang out (we don't / won't do st / lt) as i'm suspicious of their ulterior motives.

- working girls are young at age 18 – 22, middle-aged in the 5-year period of 23 – 27 and old at age 28+. i prefer young, petite, childless women but for variety (more experienced in the sack, more likely to take cim.) or because i can't find an affordable spinner, hottie, young'un i'll go with a middle-aged or old gal, a thick girl, a milf, from time to time.

- i just assume the worse: the escort will be flat-chested or someway a deficient physique, poor performer, be a runner, will try to steal something, bad attitude. always a pleasant surprise when they have a nice rack / body, good in bed, willing to do anal, gives a gfe. in turn i try my best to give a decent bfe, buy them their choice of small snacks / foods / knick-knacks (eg toothbrush) at a 7-11 / family mart / logbase friendship supermarket / street vendor on the way to the hotel, and give 'them a tip / taxi money if deserved.

section 2: lady friends.

day 1, wed / 9 jan, high season = sts only?

friend 1 ice (?) see photo, age 22, ws fl. 1 pop in 1 round.

total b 620 ($21) = st b 500 ($17) + tip b 100 ($3) + taxi b 20 ($1)

overall value a = service a + face a + body a + total b 620 ($21)

friend 2, age 27, br fl (= cb fl) , says she works angel (?) bb on soi 7 (or was it soi 8?).1 pop in 1 round.

total st b 700 ($24)

overall c = service c + face b + body c + total b 700 ($24)

- 22:30 (9 jan) plane lands at bkk airport.

- 23:30 meet pattaya-taxi. com driver (b 1000 + tip b 200)

- 01:00 (10 jan) secrets check-in with receptionist cuties champu (?) & gif (few days later i casually offer an indecent proposal to champu & she says she never goes with customer) , get rm 307 superior which is just larger but not much different than a deluxe room, annoyed that wi-fi code / instructions isn't in room & that the room safe is locked & i have to wait until daytime for maintenance guy to open it up for me.

- 02:00 i'm finally on ws but money exchange windows closed and so is the soi 15 cellphone shop (to the left of beach gg) , go to sapphire gg to pick up my pa privilige card and order a b 80 draft beer.

- hit private danger gg b 55 draft beer & mamasan tells me her 37th be-day party is 17 jan (which i said i'll be at but never did make) , hit what's up gg b 135 (?) for a drink & see what's going on.

- 02:45 airport gg see frenemy 2 som & mamasan boom, order a 'heineken' but server brings me the b 125 heineken bottle because i didn't say 'draft beer' to order the b 85 draft heineken,

- 03:30 on ws friend 1 is eating bbq and i chat her up with my limited thai and her limited english, she tells me she only does st and it's b 700 (?) , i persuade her down to b 500 and in my room she doesn't do much of a bbbj but she wasn't shy about us together in the shower (some women lock the shower door so i can't even sneak in) and she has a banging body / small b cup breasts, excellent performer. i pay up b 500 + tip b 100 + taxi b 20 and saddened that she won't do lt. (epilogue: couple more times on this trip i see her on ws but she'll only go with me just for a st).

- 04:30 i go to insomnia which just closed, supposedly something to do with the bib, so i walk ws & br.

- 05:30 on br i meet friend 2 who looks like my ex-girlfriends (and just like with my ex-girlfriends, it doesn't end well between us) and we agree to something. she says she works at a bb and she was on br (where i ran in to her) just to talk to her friend. in my room her body's ok, kinda gettin' old at age 27, does give me a good but short back massage, shorter bbbj and sex was c / ok. time to pay up as she wants to leave but i can't remember the price we agreed upon, i hand her b 500 she says 'b 700, ' i hand over a red bill she says 'b 700' and i didn't think the session was worth that but can't remember if we had negotiated a price so i hand over another red bill to bring it to b 700. i tell her that i won't see her at her angel (?) bb tomorrow to buy her that ld (had she been a good performer and been b 500 – b 600 i would have gone there to buy her one or just tip her directly b 40 – b 100) , and she says ok.

- 08:00 only finding ladies doing sts i'm a little bummed that i might have to sleep alone. i hit jp bar and find a drunk lady who's a monet (good from afar, but far from good) who asks for lt b 3, 000; i pass.

- 08:30. 10:30 i'm only able to sleep 2 hrs before i naturally wake up and want to do something.

day 2, thu / 10 jan, heimlich maneuver.

friend 3 june see photo, age 21, milf 1, br fl. 1 pop in 1 round, cherry ass pop 1.

total b 660 ($22) = st b 500 + tip b 160.

overall a = service a + face b + body d + total b 660 ($22)

friend 4 see photo age 23, milf 2, br fl. 1 pop in 1 round.

st b 500 + declined taxi b 20 as she said she wanted to walk.

overall c = service c + face d + body d + total b 500 ($17)

- 11:00 i hit scb (siam commercial bank) to get some b 20s (pay for food / small items + easier to tip)

- 11:30 b 40 seafood pad see eew at my favorite hole in the wall at soi 13/2 'soi post office'

- 12:00 foot massage b 149 + tip b 51 at chiwan massage soi 13/1 soi yamoto

- 13:30 buy sim card b 100 + top-off (pre-paid minutes added) b 200 at the avenue mall.

- 14:30 at logbase get a facial b 500 + tip b 200 for 60 min (usually it's only 30 min long) ; tried negotiating to the unadvertised special of b 350 but the ladies (who know me from previous yrs) say that it's high season and they can only give me that price starting early feb, which i can't wait for.

- 15:30 b 850 for body scrub / milky oil massage / thai massage + tip b 150 at logbase's sawasdee massage; in the future i'll do this at soi diana / buakhao which advertises it for about b 500.

- 18:00 haircut b 80 + tip b 20 at logbase's barber. between the facial+body scrub+haircut my physical appearance will only go downhill (from exercising infrequently, eating too much los grub & beer drinking, inadequate sleep). still nice that i got a comment from an escort about my soft skin (thanks, body scrub).

- 19:00 i meet friend 3 at cb. bbbj was short and won't do cim (so i start thinking i need to hit [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) / bliss for a nice long bbbj with a cim finale) but it turns out she'll pop her cherry ass. initially i'm soft and gentle but towards the end when we're doing doggy-style in her backdoor she's enjoying the anal intercourse so i go regular ramming speed, which felt pretty good. i pay up, give her an initial tip b 100 and she jokes i should pay total b 700, i gladly hand her all the remaining money on me which was 3 green bills = b 60 (i didn't want to go to my safe to retrieve more money) and she jovially says i'll just owe her the remaining b 40, and i happily say i'll pay her it when i see her again. rest of my trip i wanted to fl her again to retire the b 40 iou and more importantly tap her fun ass again. alas, our paths never re-crossed.

- 21:00 gg hop at misty's for a draft beer b 35, mandarin, ginza, sugarbaby, happy, baccara, pepperment, tiger, and maybe superbaby / sapphire, towards the end they all kinda blended together.

- 00:30 marine disco's empty (too early) , ibar and insomnia packed (whereas in the past it was packed after 01:00) but bad ratio. i dance for 3+ hrs scoping out the availability but leave alone.

- 04:00 on ws, more strike outs.

- 05:30 meet friend 4 at cb, figure might as well and i guess it was good that she only wanted st. c / d everything: looks, sex. at least i negotiated b 500 and figured i should give her taxi b 20 but she politely declined saying she liked to walk. when buddy 1 saw the photo he joked i was giving her the heimlich, whereas truthfully i use my left hand to hold the gal in place so i can snap a photo before they wise up.

- 08:00 finally go to sleep

day 3, fri / 11 jan, undulate.

friend 5 see photo age 19, br fl. 5 pops in 5 rounds.

total b 1, 646 ($55) = lt b 1, 500 ($51) + food / drinks b 146 ($4)

(she quoted me st b 700, lt b 1, 500)

overall a = service a + face b + body a + total b 1, 646 ($55)

- 10:00 wake up (stupid insomnia was also preventing my afternoon naps most of the trip)

- 13:00 walk br to soi 6.

- 13:30. 17:30 bar hop on soi 6 including night wish & pussy club beerbars (same owners) , enjoyed solo club (across from ruby club, same owners) where i had san mig light b 85 and bought 1 ld b 120 for this little hottie but we lacked chemistry so no st for us.

- 19:30. 06:00 was (except for the 01:00 – 03:00 interlude) with friend 5.

- 19:30 – 01:00 at cb i meet friend 5 who quotes me st b 700, lt b 1, 500. i look at my watch, it's only 19:30, tell her 'lt' she looks at her watch, probably thinks it's too early but still agrees to it (i just assumed she would be a runner). ask me how many boom-booms, i just arbitrarily say '5' and gesture with my hand (she has limited english) , she looks at me suspiciously. bbbj only during 1st round; low maintenance only got her the requested 2 x bacardi breezers at b 53 / ea from 7-11 and b 40 thai curry / rice dish the entire 10 hrs we were together. wanted cigarettes but no smokes if she wasn't going to smoke me (she wouldn't smoke during rounds 2. 5). turns out she had this amazing spinner body with small b cup breasts (she does need to get braces, though) , and this way of undulating her body slowly during intercourse which was sexy and felt so nice, really put mini-me in a good mood.

- 01:00. 03:00 interlude: while she's asleep (& later watching tv) i hit ggs living dolls water b 120, i love ny water b 100, soi happy@ws mj's bb water b 50, beach gg draft beer b 59 & secrets water b 69. at the new i love ny gg lots of coyote stunners & all the employees seemed really friendly. one dancer sat with me the entire time i was there and she never asked for a ld. i made small talk with her and asked her about "how much for lady?" and she said bf b 1, 300 (?) , and in her case st b 2, 500, lt b 3, 500. another smokin' hot dancer in bra and panties said i should dance with her and her co-workers / friends who were at another table but as it was a thai song playing which i can't move to, i passed. i had read another bm's post that he dropped b 6k ($200+) on his drinks+lds celebrating his be-day there, but in the end the (contract?) girl (s) didn't put out, so he felt the place was a scam but at least he had fun on his be-day. at 02:30 this sat morning only customers were me, a coupla indians (?) sitting by themselves quietly and one white guy who was dancing with a coupla of the coyotes (maybe it was that bm?) , so place was lacking customers. closed my tab (i think i had a water or coke light) & left. never went back to i love ny faux-gg as it lacked nudity.

- 03:00 – 06:00 back in room with friend 5 and she's watching the film australia. prior to 01:00 we had 3 pops in 3 rounds and i was hoping to squeeze out 1 more pop. at 03:00 was able to pry open her legs again (part of foreplay where she keeps her legs crossed, acts uninterested in sex, i finally open her clam & once inside her she goes in to undulating mode which works whether she's on top or we're spooning) for round 4 for pop 4. australia is 2 hrs 45 min and it ends about 05:00, mini-me is up again (thanks to the ½ cialis i had taken at 20:00) and so i try for round 5. intercourse was once again great (she should trademark that undulating technique) and i have pop 5. at 06:00 she decides to leave.

- 06:30 i arrive in front of insomnia but it just closed (i was hoping for high season they would extend the closing time; at it's old location insomnia would be open until past 08:00) and i missed the exodus of the fls leaving that and ibar which closes at 05:30. i get a water b 30 at jp bar, then get some squid and octopus on ws (only b 20 per skewer, a total steal) & b 40 noodles at my early morning noodle food cart on soi bj.

- 07:30 sleep.

day 4, sat / 12 jan, buddy 1's arrival 1.

friend 6 lady, age 24, [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) works 17:00 – 02:00 (when [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) closes).1 shot in 1 round, cim 1.

total b 900 ($30) = st 700 ($24) + tip b 200 ($7)

overall a = service a + face b + body c + total b 900 ($30)

- 08:30 wake up, freakin' hell.

- 09:00 get my stuff from mam laundry located on soi p. 72 (further down the soi is another laundry shop with washer / dryer machines so they also have same day service available) & get breakfast.

- 12:00 ws secrets check-out then soi chaiyapoon canterbury tales check-in (for the next four nights i would be staying in soi buakhao / lk metro with buddy 1 since we wanted to check the area out)

- 15:00 – 00:00 (?) buddy 1 checks-in to canterbury, we hang out including hitting soi diana's bb complex, ws' airport gg, basilisk bb at new simon complex and at 21:15 lk metro paradise gg which had plenty of nudity but since they were unattractive i would have preferred to see the talent with their clothes on. at some point buddy 1 decided he was going to bf miss cambodia (she was thai but looked cambodian) from basilisk so him and i parted ways.

- 01:20 – 02:00 i'm at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) for cim 1. fortunately friend 6 who's actually named 'lady' (even says it on her name tag) was available as i meant to try her out in 2012. she agrees to be naked during the bj so upstairs we go. 01:26 – 02:00 she blows me exactly the way i like and at 01:55 she says [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is closing and that i should have come by around midnight. so mini-me quickly finishes with a cim, i tip her b 200 (at least i didn't buy her a ld) for exemplary service.

- 02:00 memory's fuzzy on the rest of the night (probably walked br and / or just went back to my hotel room alone) & the next 3 nights as insomnia & my cresting cold was fatiguing me and i was trying to keep up with buddy 1 who was only in town for 4 nights. i also stopped keeping decent notes of my activities.

day 5, sun / 13 jan, blissful.

friend 7 skinny won, age 26, works bliss lounge 12:00 – 00:00, 1 pop in 1 round, cim 2.

total b 890 ($30) = st 700 + tip b 100 + ld b 90 (?)

overall a = service a + face b + body c + total b 890 ($30)

friend 8 see photo, age 20, milf 3, 3 pops in 3 rounds. 3-holer 1.

bf b 300 + lt b 1, 500 + food b 30.

overall a = service a + face b + body c + total b 1, 830 ($61)

- 12:30 we're at bliss lounge, he gets bj from a lady and i opt for friend 7 skinny won over the newbie girl (supposedly she had only been there a week and as she wasn't that cute or experienced i declined; two days later when i wanted to try her i found out she had just quit).

- 12:50 – 13:20 friend 7, who would only go topless, had good bj technique but around 22 min started gesturing that her neck was sore from all the head-bobbing. i would have preferred to have taken up the 40 min bliss time limit, but whatever. so mini-me finishes with cim 2 and i tip her b 100 (even though i had already bought her a ld) as i was pretty happy overall with the slow, sensual bj (slightly marred by her neck pain towards the end).

- 13:30 it was this day (or the following day) that buddy 1 and i were at dd so that buddy 1 could book a dd gal for lt b 3, 500 (that's total price paid to dd to cover bf+lady's fee) for 22:00 – 06:00 that night.

- 13:30 – 22:00 hang out with buddy 1; at 22:00 we're at dd so he can pick up his lady & we part ways

- 22:00 – 01:00 i gg hop at lk metro's queen, showgirls, lady love (where i met that hot coyote which said she goes for lt b 3k – 5k only if she likes a customer) and club blu. checked out soi buakhao's new action street and rehab street (don't know what to call the bb complex behind the new rehab coyote & lounge bar) ; action st was actionless (it's new so maybe it just needs time to fill up with better staffed bbs) and same goes for rehab st (didn't go in to rehab as i had enough coyotes on lk metro).

- 01:00 walk from soi buakhao southbound to south pattaya road, turning westbound to br / ws.

- 01:30 met friend 8 and her age 19 sister (also a milf but not as cute; they didn't look alike but claimed to have the same mama & baba) as i was entering cb and they were walking towards ws (in that open area next to the police kiosk / b 5 toilet which used to be motorbike parking lot now is just open space). i asked how much for lt and age 19 sister translated, lt b 1, 500. i said, ok, friend 8 age 20 sister go with me. they wanted me to go with them to the pbg / sirens bb complex (i was hoping they were fls but unfortunately they were on-duty bgs) , paid the bf b 300 and friend 8 and i hoped the songtaew to canterbury.

- 02:00 – 08:00 friend 8 did anal at one point and i'm not sure if she was a cherry ass (she didn't speak english) so i'll assume she wasn't. she bjs a little and no cim, but overall a fun girl. if not for the affected boobs from the pregnancy she would have had a great body. we did 2 pops in 2 rounds before falling asleep, and a 3rd shot / 3rd round before she left at 08:00. i didn't feel like taking her to breakfast so i just gave her b 30 for food + the lt b 1, 500.

day 6, mon / 14 jan, shisha girl.

friend 9 ohm age 26, ws fl, cherry ass pop 2.

st b 1, 000 + b 120 for 2 leo big bottle beers + b 55 breakfast (she quoted me st b 1, 000, lt b 1, 500)

overall b = service a + face a + body b + total b 1, 175 ($39)

- 10:30 (?) – 00:00 (?) buddy 1 and i hang out including me introducing him to lady love gg but at some point we go our separate ways for some reason.

- 00:00 (?) – 02:00 i gg hop on lk metro 2nd night in a row & with the dearth of nudity and prices being equal to or higher than ws, i decide i might as well go to where i belonged all along: ws ggs.

- 02:00 buddy 1 and i meet up again & i tell him i'm headed to ws, he says he'll join me so we head down beside mike shopping mall the art street to br and on to ws.

- 02:30 buddy 1 and i just entered ws when i meet friend 9 who quotes me st b 1k, lt b 1. 5k and says we should do st and if i like her i can opt for lt (which sounds like a line of bs, but i play along) , but i tell her i want lt. we hop on her motorbike & head back to soi chaiyapoon while buddy 1 does some thing else. i make the usual offer of getting some supplies at a mini-mart, friend 9 says she's better in bed / more sociable if she's tipsy and asks how about leo beer. 2 big bottles. i buy 4 to go (2 for her. 2 for me) for total b 240 from a restaurant on third road as the liquor store next door is closed and 7-11 is inconveniently located, and we're off to my room.

- 03:30 we arrive on her motorbike to my canterbury guesthouse building (they have several buildings) and i reach into her shirt to feel up her left tit, which was a good size with soft skin, and she was getting turned on (i was actually expecting her to push my hand away as we were outdoors). in my room we drink up all the leo's, i secretly pop ½ a cialis, and she talks (quite the intelligent talker, and i don't mind being a listener but i was pretty tired) until 05:30, with some interjections of getting her down to her panty / bra and me sneaking a peak at her vagina and a suck on her tits. she's pretty sharp and asks 'tell me truth, you want me drunk so you can boom-boom backdoor, at least 10, 20% true? ' and i said 'yes, but only 10% true' as she was right on and i wanted her to have a good time as part of the bfe schtick.

- 05:30 – 06:00 finally we get down to business on the bed and when i take her doggy style she says she likes to be spanked on her butt (no problem, it kinda hurts my hand but i can easily accommodate that especially when a woman insists upon it) , she likes her hair pulled (i never tried that before) and she likes to be slapped on her cheek (hmmm, i had never slapped a woman's face before; butt yes, face no). so i'm exhausted and i'm doing her doggy-style, spanking her butt, pulling her hair (as i'm a cherry hair yanker i have no idea how hard to pull) and trying to slap her face / cheek (also a cherry face slapper). i don't have the best hand-eye coordination and in doggy-style position it's hard to get the slap placement square on her cheek / flesh (as opposed to inadvertently hitting her jaw / nose / side of her head) and she wants me to slap her harder and harder but then i realize my fingernails are due for a clipping so now i'm worried with a wry slap i'll accidentally scratch her soft facial skin with my fingernail (s). so i transition to entering the backdoor but as i put a finger in her anus she says it's a little 'jep' [painful] and asks if my fingernails are trimmed, which i guiltily reply that they're due for a trim. so we move on to mini-me popping her cherry ass, but the moment his head was in there, he turned to rope. she was sympathetic and said 'too much [ky] jelly' which was also true but the problem was me / mini-me, even though i had popped ½ a cialis a coupla hrs earlier. i would guess the being slapped and the backdoor action was pretty disappointing for her, but at least i did get my 1 pop in and i'll count it as a (weak) cherry ass pop.

- 06:00 – 06:30 she's hungry and though i would rather sleep i agree to going with her on her motorbike to this hole in the wall behind tukcom where each entrée (really small portions) are b 10, so we get 6 entrees. 2 rices. 2 cokes all for b 110 + tip.

- 06:30 – 07:30 she wants rambutan fruit & shisha (which she kept mentioning since 03:00) and says she'll pay for it, she just wants my company. she buys rambutan & we go to near ws arab street for shisha (i think she paid b 120 for it + the coke b 20). i'm smoking / trying not to fall asleep, she points out to me the shisha shop owner, the moroccan fl that services the middle easterners who need a break from the shisha, and she says she needs to check on her dog (or puppy) at her nearby room. i say 'ok, ' she leaves for about 20 minutes and comes back in a change of clothes, she settles the bill and then we head back to canterbury.

- 07:30 in front of my canterbury building i tell her that i prefer lt b 1. 5k over the st b 1k, she says she empathizes but it's easier for her to sleep in her own bed, i said that's understandable so we settle on st. i go up to my room to get the 1k and my camera, outside again i hand her the 1k and try to get a photo but she won't let me take one since she says 'i not beautiful now' that the sun's up, her make-ups marred. she says i should just hit up her cellphone if i want to meet up again for a st or a lt.

- epilogue few days later i tried texting / calling her as i wanted another crack at slapping her (something i seriously need practice on, but the hair pulling i have down) and tapping her backdoor. alas, she never responded. apparently i was that bad in bed that first and only time, not even deserving of a 'so-so' good. too bad as she had a pretty nice body, a little thick but complimented nicely by her small b-cups.

- 08:00 sleep.

day 7, tue / 15 jan, babydolls bf.

friend 10 see photo age 23, sabai dee body massage #32, her father's chinese & her mom's thai, cbj

bf 2, 400 + ld b 140 + tip b 200

overall a = service b + face b + body a + total b 2, 740 ($91)

- 11:00 (?) – 13:00 buddy 1 and i meet up and have brunch.

- 13:00 couple days earlier we checked out honey body massage around 15:00 and were unimpressed. it's buddy 1's last 24 hrs in patts but he insists on treating me to a soapie (normally i don't do it as soi 6 / br is a better value & i don't get much out of the novelty of a body-to-body massage).

- 13:45 we hit the sabai's & find there's now a honey 2, where we had beers there but the selection was even worse than honey 1. went to sabai room for beers & selection was better but didn't hire anyone. finally hit sabai dee.

finally hit sabai dee for drinks and found some lookers. i said number 32 was hot and buddy insisted i take the lady as he was paying anyways.

sidenote: i had been drinking way too much so i actually had to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) 4 times in our 90 minutes together (once before the bath, once before the body massage and twice during the intercourse (obviously interrupting coitus to relieve myself) ; my bladder is 20 oz (about 600 ml) so the problem is that my 2 kidneys work too well & i should sell one to fund a few los trips.

so number 32 and i were in the room about 15:00. 16:30. first 45 minutes or so was the bathing & body massage and she had a great hour-glass figure with b-cup natural tits. then came the 5 second cbj (she would not do bbbj, nor anal or any kissing let alone dfk) , followed by 30 second woman on top. she was hot, but she didn't like to work during cbj / fs it seemed. so i boom-boom her and as i had power (cialis was still in my system) we went thru a variety of positions. as i was doing her from behind i slowly shuffled us to the mirror which she was reluctant to face, but then as i was tapping her from behind with us facing the mirror so i could admire the front of her body in the reflection & her holding on to the dresser, she really got into it. i started softly-to-harder slapping her butt and also added some hair pulling, and both she didn't seem to mind (i think she may even have enjoyed it, but i truthfully don't know what a woman's thinking during sex unless she tells me bluntly "hurt" or "good" or whatever black & white terms). we go back & i sit on the bed's ledge, her straddling / facing me & we screw that way for a bit. i lean back and lay on the bed to rest and she's finally grinding me hard in the woman-on-top position. we're both tired and i finish by splooging on her stomach / across her torso on to the bed.

we wash up & get dressed. she asks about a tip and i gave her the b 200 that i was already plan on giving her anyway (though a lady asking for a tip is always irksome) , which she seems happy with. i say "take photo" and she say "no" and while she's fixing herself in the mirror she can obviously see i'm taking a photo of her reflection, and she doesn't object. she says "let me see," thinks i can do better photos so i take a couple more and she say "take many." photos are done and we head down the elevator holding hands, walking as if tgf / bf. as we exit the elevator an asian punter is entering with number 42 who also looks hot and if i was a soapie guy, i'd get her at a later date, and number 32 says i should get her next time if i want her (i'm glad she cares for my feelings). anyways, my ranking of the patts soapies in terms of ladies looks is: sabai dee, sabai room, honey, honey 2. all the soapie's waiters had told us "90 minute. 1 shot, blowjob with condom." previously the one & only time i had done a soapie was during my first trip to bangkok in nov 2000, and i thought it was ok. this time i was really lucky buddy treated me to what turned out to be a great soapie session with a hot half-chinese masseuse.

friend 11 age 29 joy 086-222-9531, 4 pops, overall b = service b + face c + body a, total b 2, 400 = bf 300 + lt b 2, 000 + coupla milky drinks b 50 + noodles b 50, babydolls at 02:00.

day 8, wed / 16 jan, buddy 1's departure 1.

friend 12 & 13, thick won and nung (?) , switched girls out.

total b 900 = st b 700 + thick won tip b 100 + nung tip b 100. bliss.

friend 14 see photo. 3-holer cherry ass, cim. 4 pops,

total b 2, 000+ = ld b 130 + bf b 300 + lt b 1, 500 + food b 40 + heineken b 30 (?) + peanuts b 10 + tip b 50 + misc + ld b 130.

overall a = service a + face b + body a + b 2, 000.

tac just turned age 18 just 6 weeks ago (based on the dob from her passport).18:00 at easy beerbar 17 at pbg / sirens complex was told bf b 500 since i haven't bought a ld / drink so i ordered a water for myself and a ld for achira, tipped b 50 to my interpreter and b 20 to each of the 4 (or 5?) other ladies. the age 29 milf had a better face albeit also lots of make-up but i lost interest in bfing once i learned she was old mother. after closing my tab we went to friendship (mini). supermarket at logbase.

day 9, thu / 17 jan.

friend 15 noona see photo, age 23, cbj. 3 pops.

total b 1, 515 = lt b 1, 500 + pepsi b 15

overall a = service b + face a + body a

02:00. 06:00 but she had agreed to 10:00. quoted me st b 1, 000, lt b 2, 000, said she remembered me from 2012 (i was in patts may 2012) and said that i wanted st b 500 and so she had never went with me. this time she quoted me st b 1, 000, lt b 2, 000, i said lt b 1, 500, she said b 1, 800, i said b 1, 500 and she acquiesced. i gave her chubby friend tax b 20 to try and build some goodwill. in the room she told me that an old guy had asked her how much and she quoted him lt b 4, 000 which shocked him, he negotiated down to lt b 1, 500 but then noona decided not to go with him at lt b 1, 500 after all. and she was glad i soon came along at lt b 1, 500 because if she's only being paid that much she'd prefer a young man, body good, smell good.

day 10, fri / 18 jan.

problem with **** escort from made in thailand (beerbar complex on second road at soi 8) bow & beam bar.

- friend 16 see photo age 21, has a kid. 2 pops,

overall a = service a + face c + body d.

total b 1, 220 = lt b 1, 000 + tip b 200 + toothbrush b 20.

gave her age 17 sister taxi b 20. wanted cbj but i sweet-talked her in to bbbj. says her and her sister for st b 2, 000 services mr. x with cbj and cfs. met on ws at 03:45 and she stayed with me until 09:40 since she had to work at 13:00.

day 11, sat / 19 jan.

- friend 17 oy, age 23.

total b 828 = bf 300 + st b 500 + toothbrush b 28.

overall d = service d + face c + body d.

best friends bars & mall (beerbar complex on br about soi 13) jam's bar 12.

day 12, sun / 20 jan, buddy 1's addiction.

- friend 18 ae age 23, cim.

total b 1, 100 = bf 300 + st b 700 + tip b 100.

overall a = service a + face b + body c.

red point bar. 18:50. 19:30.

next to lisa.

- friend 19 see photo, sun / 20 jan, age 24, runner.

total b 70 = st b 769 + papaya salad b 30 + candy b 20 + toothbrush b 19.

overall b = service b + face b + body a.

told me st b 700, lt b 1, 500, 19:55 met her on br, had papaya salad, she bought watermelon b 10 and deep fried pork, fried grasshopper & another bug, stopped by friendship supermarket

sidenote: i think it was this day that buddy 1 informed me that he would be returning to patts in feb. i was skeptical since he was just in town 12 – 16 jan. to my astonishment he was back in patts 1 – 5 feb.

day 13, mon / 21 jan.

- friend 20 pim see photo age 23, 2 pops, cim, swallows,

total b 1, 010 = st b 700 + extra bj b 300 + taxi b 10.

overall a = service a + face c + body b.

12:30 at central festival mall escalator, was with me from 15:00. 17:30,

- friend 21 mena see photo age 27, 6 pops.

total b 1, 600 = lt b 1, 500 + food / drinks b 80 + taxi b 20.

overall a = service a + face b + body b.

22:45 met me in front of candyshop disco, stayed with me until 10:00, 3 bbbj / fs / pops before we fall asleep around 01:00, around 02:30 i tap her while she's semi-asleep, around 04:00 i tap her while she's semi-asleep. 09:00 bbbj and pop.

day 14, tue / 22 jan.

- friend 22 bee see photo, age 25, 3 pops, cim. 1 kid.

total b 1, 574 = lt b 1, 500 + lotion b 34 + snacks / drinks b 40.

overall a = service a + face b + body b.

about 20:00 met at coconut bar, stayed with me until 08:00 or so. 1st pop bbbj+fs+cim, same for 2nd pop. 3rd pop only painted her body.

day 15, wed / 23 jan, bangkok.

- friend 23 bo see photo, age 21, 4 pops.

total b 3, 600 = bf b 600 + lt b 3, 000.

overall b = service c + face a + body a.

19:40 met her at bangkok nana plaza angelwitch (which is next to spanky's) , stayed with me until 06:30, said she did bj but that was a lie and she wanted to be a whining starfish. whining i couldn't do much about instead of letting a working girl be a starfish i put the lady in to doggy style, spooning, etc (although when they're a wannabe / starfish there's nothing / little i can do to get them do much / any of woman on top).

day 16, thu / 24 jan, back in patts.

- friend 24 fa see photo, age 25, cim.

total b 1, 100 = bf b 300 + st b 700 + tip b 100.

overall a = service a + face b + body b.

tipped cashier b 20.

red point bar 18:16. 18:40, she says she does not do lt.

day 17, fri / 25 jan.

- friend 25 jang see photo, age 20, 2+ pops

total b 1, 590 = lt b 1, 500 + snack / drinks 90.

overall a = service a + face c + body d.

day 18, sat / 26 jan.

- friend 26 noy see photo, age 22, 2 pops.

total b 1, 250 = lt b 1, 250.

overall d = service d + face d + body d.

02:45 met her at logbase, said the next day she would be working the bar at secrets, works at another beerbar (inside pbg / sirens) that i had bf'd her friend, left at 08:30, 1st round bbbj / fs. 2nd round fs. we had agreed upon lt b 1, 500 but i docked her pay since she hardly did agreed upon bbbjs during round 1 and absolutely refused any bbbj during round 2.

day 19, sun / 27 jan.

- friend 27 see photo, age 22 (?) , has a kid. 2 pops. 3-holer, cherry ass.

total b 1, 560 = lt b 1, 500 + taxi b 20 + food b 60.

overall a = service a + face c + body c.

at 06:30 when insomnia closes we agree to lt, round 1 she gives a good bbbj and i also pop her cherry ass, at 11:00 round 2 just bj+fs and she leaves at 11:30.

day 20, mon / 28 jan.

- friend 28 age 21 see photo. 5 pops.

total b 1, 859 = bf + b 300 + lt b 1, 500 + snacks b 59.

overall a = service a + face c + body c.

at 01:10 bf her from pbg / sirens beerbar, says she used to work japanese ktv (karaoke rooms servicing jap customers) , says she does bbbj, stop by 7-11 and i pay for her bacardi breezer b 53 (which she never actually consumed so i drank it later) and b 59 for some snacks she wanted, back in my room she says she wants cbj but i insist on bbbj as we agreed upon so she does it really well, says she doesn't like to smoke so we move on to fs, she's a lbfm and in th woman-on-top positions she's grinding me for a while and when she eventually tires i go do the work. eventually i get tired and want to finish so i go shower mini-me, ask her to smoke which she does really well (though she would rather not) , i wanted a cim but she would only take a cof for pop 1. i still have an erection since i popped kamagra so i just do my hand-party and paint her body for pop 2 and we sleep until about 02:30. about 04:30 i wake up horny, she's asleep so for round 2 i just paint her body for pop 3. she's awake enough to realize what i just did so she goes to wash it off and goes back to sleep. i still have an erection so i paint her body again for pop 4 and she goes to wash / sleep again (so literally a "rinse and repeat'). at 06:15 sun is coming up and i wake up with an erection so i put on a condom and start tapping her, she's groggy but becomes more and more awake and starts participating (eg woman-on-top). eventually we're both tired so i finish on her face again pop 5. i shower, she then showers and comes out dressed, i joking tell her it's only 07:00 and that she had told me she would go home at 09:00 and since i now have an erection i dropped my pants & indicated for her to blow mini-me. she really wants to leave so i don't stop her (i was hoping for a morning bj before she left but at least i got total 5 pops in with her) and i go to bed alone. i decided to surf porn and do a hand-party.

day 21, tue / 29 jan.

- friend 29 see photo, age 25 (?) , cof / faux cim. 2 pops in 3 rounds.

total b 1, 590 = lt b 1, 500 + food b 90.

overall a = service a + face c + body b.

at 04:00 met her on ws she quoted me lt b 1, 500, i was drunk so fell asleep before i popped during round 1, at 08:00 round 2 with a cof / faux cim pop 1, at 11:00 we have lunch and 12:00 round 3 pop 2, at 14:00 denied a bj and she was pissed i was trying to get another bj / round / pop out of her, saying angrily 'what you think i am! ' since i was overworking her. sidenote: during one of the rounds when i was trying to slide in the backdoor she said she'the only do backdoor if i would pay her lt b 3, 000 (so a b 1, 500 cherry backdoor entrance surcharge) , which i opted out of.

day 22, wed / 30 jan.

- friend 30 see photo, age 19, had a miscarriage so was never a mother, cim.

total b 620 = st b 500 + tip b 100 + ice tea b 20.

overall a = service a + face d + body c.

at 20:00 met her at the 1st thai bar to the left of jasmine hotel (kabtiwan bar, i think) , i wanted a bj and she quoted me st b 500, she didn't want to get naked / take off her bra / panties but did so when i insisted, originally only going to accept body paint (or cof?) but then she decided to accept cim since i was taking so long to finish (cim is a big incentive for me to finish faster).

- friend 31 gai see photo, age 21 (?).1 pop in 1 round.

total b 555 = st b 500 + heineken b 45 + taxi b 10

overall a = service a + face f + body a.

gogo-hop until 23:00. around 23:30 at cb she quoted me st b 500, lt b 1, 000 i said i'll take lt and she agreed to departing about 8 am, says 3 months ago she quit working supergirls gogo (not sure if i believe that, she has a supergirls type body but she had a really bad facial complexion which i guess enough make-up could conceal). in my room before i can do round 1 at midnight los time i had to call my job recruiter in california (i've been unemployed since may 2010; probably sometime in 2013 i'll start working again). her and i finally get it on and at the end of it she says she had 2 orgams which (if that's even true) i was completely oblivious to. she does a good bbbj but supergirls gogos (and ex-ggs from there?) would only do cbj (at least in my case) so i further doubt that she worked supergirls before even though she does have a perfect spinner hourglass figure which compensated for her face.

- friend 32 pat aka miss shorty (prettier, translator, didn't let me take a photo of her front side) & friend 33 ban aka miss token see photo, both age 20

miss shorty overall a = service a + face a + body b.

miss token overall a = service a + face c + body c.

each lady total b 780 = st b 750 + drink b 30.

at 03:30 (or was it 04:30?) saw miss shorty inside insomnia (about an hour before that saw her pass thru ibar and thought to myself "would love to have a lt with her") and she was friendly when i approached. i only wanted her but she wanted me to get them both and she quoted me that for both of them lt b 2, 500, st b 1, 000. they convince me to take both of them and we leave insomnia about 04:00. they leave my place about 05:30. both are dancers at private dancer gg (which is affiliated with babydolls gg with similar bf policy of bf's dropping to b 300 after 01:30).

07:30 go to sleep alone.

day 23, thu / 31 jan.

- friend 14 bf2 tac see photo. 4 pops in 6 rounds.

lt.

11:30 wake up.

17:00 bf her and asked that she not put on make-up which she happily complied with, went to hotel for round 1 with pop 1.

18:45 just missed sunset but still walked cb up to around soi 12 (i wanted to walk to soi 6 before turning back but too many puddles from the earlier rain) then went thru soi diana, lk metro & finally to

19:30 foot massage b 100 per person for 1 hour on soi buakhao,

20:30 pa card at 3som beerbar, billabong with live band,

22:00 returned to ws / jasmine for round 2 with pop 2.

00:00 airport gogo.

00:45 happy gogo.

01:30 insomnia, tons of hot fls (whenever i'm with my lady there are available fl hotties everywhere&61516.

03:00 returned to jasmine for round 3 but i fell asleep before i had a pop.

08:00 round 4 with pop 3.

11:00 round 5 and lost erection and didn't bother to try and pop since i wanted to conserve my power.

13:00 round 6 with pop 4.

15:00 she leaves so she can go home, get a change of clothes & be ready / at work at 17:00.

day 24, fri / 1 feb, buddy 1's arrival 2.

friend 34 may see photo, age 21 has a kid, cof. 1 round 2 pops.

total b 1, 520 = lt b 1, 500 + taxi b 20.

overall a = service a + face b + body d.

day 25, sat / 2 feb,

- friend 35 see photo, age 18, 2 rounds 2 pops, overall.

dream bar pim (1)

day 26, sun / 3 feb, yolo but i sleep alone.

friend 36 ying fl'the 2 (fl'the her a 2nd time)

lt b 1, 000 that became a st b 500 when i evicted her for insisting that i perform cunnilingus. as a man-working girl if she offered me money i'the do it, but when i'm the employer i ain't daty and risking another gonorrhea (or worse) infection of my eye (s) , which was what happened in pi in 2010.

at this point my friends 36 – 40 are completely out of order as i had been with some of them prior to sun / 3 feb but i forgot (mainly because i didn't have a photo of them; chronological-order pics helps me remember the sequence of friends.)

friend 36 i had st b 500 for a bbbj (and cim?) when buddy 2 was in town giving dd a 2nd chance.

day 28, mon / 4 feb.

friend 37 st b 700 + tip b 40.

i have no idea who this is.

- friend 38 pen see photo, kid but affect on boobs / stomach unnoticeable, red point bar,

total b 1, 195 = ld b 95 + bf b 300 + st b 700 + tip b 100

overall value a = service a + face b + body a + total b 1, 195 ($40)

the photo of pen is from bm sinbad. in his posting he recommended several soi 6 ladies and i ended up being with pen of red point bar.

- friend 14 tac see photo, bf'the 3.

lt

day 29, tue / 5 feb, buddy 1's departure 2.

- friend 40 namwon age 19 at lisa bar (between red point & nightwish)

total b 1, 200 = bf 300 + b 800 + tip b 100.

overall value a = service a + face a + body b + total b 1, 200.

- friend 14 tac see photo, bf'the 4.

/

can't remember what date for:

- friend 39 ae at red point.

www.pattayaeasybar17.com[/quote]

[HenryV]

Can you pm me with the taxi info, will need it soon.

Thank you.


I decided to check out Pattaya this time as I have never been there but visited BKK so many times.

Arranged taxi from Pattaya-taxi. Com for 1200 be per trip. Excellent service, taxi arrived at sharp time I asked for, driver spoke no english but ride was very smooth and fast. 2 hours. New cars. Highly recommended.

Stayed at Hotel Jasmine. Initial impression of Pattaya was a disaster. Hotel was too basic, no electric kettle, small shower, no alarm clock, no night stand. I hated the city. Too muggy although a bit less humid. Went to check out soi6 around 4 PM with hard sun beating down. Lots and lots of girls, may be 4/5 that were do-able by my standards. But presence of too many coupled with hard sun and almost 90% humidity killed my appetite. Went back to hotel. Mosquitos. Damn, Told hotel, I will cancel next day's stay and checked out. They offered to spray the room which did the trick.

In the evening went to WS and BR. WS becomes a zoo after sun down. Tonnes of people, mostly farangs and lots of rowdy youngsters in groups. Hordes of Chinese visitors alighting from tourist buses. Girls dancing in front of bars and go go places. Most folks were from Russia followed by Europeans, north americans, Australians, Indians.

Walked the beach road. Easily hundreds of girls standing under coconut trees. This is where my perception of Pattaya started to change, there were at least3/4 that were pretty good and to my surprise the variety and quality was a bit better than FLs at BKK.

Came across a cutie Kita from Isaan with nice see cup boobs. In Thailand? Woohoo. 500 be per shot so took her to hotel. Well lets put it this was as soon as we initially made out, I told her to stay with me all night and I was sold on Pattaya. Had a fantastic noght withher and gave her 1500 be in the morning. A bit too much I know but I was in 7th heaven.

Was so impressed by her that called her during 2nd night also. Saw a few Uzbeki girls on BR as well but they were al over the hill and usually on high. Overall BR is a fantastic place to monger due to sheer ease, variety / cost and abundent quantity to choose from. WS has very FLs.

Pattaya is a more of beach resort party town as compared to BKK which is more business like mongering destination with more options to do during day and night. But thr night life is superb in Pattaya.

[Amex Spg]

Useless and self serving.To HenryV: You're correct, my posts are purely useless and self-serving because I have 0 intention of providing fellow BMs with a shred of useful info or entertaining anecdotes. Please continue to quote my entire TR posts in case BMs didn't realize how useless and self-serving they were the first time.

Better yet, select me for "Add to Ignore List" so that you won't see any more of my future useless and self-serving posts.

Good Luck & Happy Mongering.

[RBDave]

can you pm me with the taxi info, will need it soon.

thank you.i use mr t. +66 38 720 318.

so far on this trip, it was 1000 baht from bangkok (sukhumvit area) to pattaya and 1200 baht from pattaya to don mueang airport.

his pattaya. bkk airport rate is 1000 and bkk. pattaya is 1100.

i usually tip the driver 100-200.

today, my trip from pattaya to dmk took just over two hours. his max speed was about 130kph.

one bad thing was during both of my trips, they stopped for fuel, one for cng, the other for lpg. these require special fueling stations so they get it where they can.

[Mouse1]

I'll be coming to Thailand in the next couple weeks for the first time and I've been reading lots of news stories about men getting drugged then robbed back in their hotels. Which girls are the ones to watch out for? The freelancers and ladyboys right? The gogo and bar girls are safe right? I'm smart with my drinks but I'm kinda scared now, to order a drink in a gogo or something. I don't want this to be me.

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2013/02/26/drugged-turks-cleaned-out-by-thieving-*****s/

What should I look out for and what should I avoid?You are right to be scared. Frankly this is happening far too frequently. Most guys coming to Pattaya get drugged and robbed at least once in their visit. Sometimes more often. (Although many won't admit it). The only solution is to stay home until Pattaya gets a lot lot safer.

[Wes Man]

I have always picked up a car or taxi to Pattaya at the arrivals at the new airport for 1000bht, but now Air Asia uses DM airport I was wondering what is the deal there? Last trip I was quoted at the taxi ramp 2200 bht and eventuall had to take one for 1600 bht. Can any brother tell me the score at DM now and what is the best attack method?

[Kim Wheather]

Is it me or the shop keepers in Pattaya have become ruder?

Having never visited Pattaya for the past two years, I was there last week. I noticed most of the shop keepers were rude! In fact, I walked out of my favorite fast thai food joint after dealing with a waitress with a bad attitude.

They are impatient, do not care about service anymore, and a waiter even demanded a15% tip. WTF?You are absolutely right, about Thai people in Pattaya have become much more rude, compared to earlier times. And I guess the degree of rudeness will be increased in the course of time.

Enjoy Pattaya, until Pattaya will turn out to be a completely hostile place.

[Nvslim]

Useless and self serving.Damn, You claim it's useless and then quote the whole thing. You even fucked up the quote.

Come on dude. :(

Slim

[How14]

The effects of Viagra usually last only for one hour. You would need to keep taking more Viagra pills to stay hard for longer than one hour.

But you need to be careful in banging the ladies, when you stay hard for a long time. Because latex condoms can easily rub the lady the wrong way and cause her some pain and discomfort. Plenty of lube is what you need at first, and then some splashes of water, when the lube dries out.

Most ladies won't tell you, when the lube is insufficient, and they are feeling uncomfortable. They just want to end it with you, without telling you why. You need to have some understanding and imagination to guess on your own what's going on and make sure that you aren't injuring the lady, when you are having sex with her.Viagra lasting 1 hour? You have got to be joking, I can take a half of 100mg and my erection is there for 4-5 hours, thats nonsense what your saying.

[RBDave]

I have always picked up a car or taxi to Pattaya at the arrivals at the new airport for 1000bht, but now Air Asia uses DM airport I was wondering what is the deal there? Last trip I was quoted at the taxi ramp 2200 bht and eventuall had to take one for 1600 bht. Can any brother tell me the score at DM now and what is the best attack method?I just did the reverse today from Mr T (read below) for 1200. I suspect airport pickup would add 100 as it does for BKK. Personally, I would not bother making an appointment with him if you can get it for 1600.

[Mr Enternational]

I have always picked up a car or taxi to Pattaya at the arrivals at the new airport for 1000bht, but now Air Asia uses DM airport I was wondering what is the deal there? Last trip I was quoted at the taxi ramp 2200 bht and eventuall had to take one for 1600 bht. Can any brother tell me the score at DM now and what is the best attack method?I just went from Pattaya to DM today for 1200 baht all in. Will probably try taking the bus back though when I return from Vietnam on the 10th.

[UShobbyist]

You are right to be scared. Frankly this is happening far too frequently. Most guys coming to Pattaya get drugged and robbed at least once in their visit. Sometimes more often. (Although many won't admit it). The only solution is to stay home until Pattaya gets a lot lot safer.I have never heard any mongers get drugged and robbed in Bangkok. Do you mean that BKK is much safer than Pattaya?

[BionicMan]

Can you pm me with the taxi info, will need it soon.

Thank you.Couldn't you PM him directly and save us the quote of a whole post to ask for taxi recommendation?

Just asking. And if he doesn't have PM facilities how is he supposed to PM you?

[HenryV]

thank you.

somewhat refreshing to actually get useful info on this board.


i use mr t. +66 38 720 318.

so far on this trip, it was 1000 baht from bangkok (sukhumvit area) to pattaya and 1200 baht from pattaya to don mueang airport.

his pattaya. bkk airport rate is 1000 and bkk. pattaya is 1100.

i usually tip the driver 100-200.

today, my trip from pattaya to dmk took just over two hours. his max speed was about 130kph.

one bad thing was during both of my trips, they stopped for fuel, one for cng, the other for lpg. these require special fueling stations so they get it where they can.

[HenryV]

"Most guys coming to Pattaya get drugged and robbed at least once in their visit."

Either you don't know what you are talking about, or wondrous malicious.

I, and my three friends, have been to Pattaya about 10x in the last 5 years. The worst I have experienced is a non-performer, or under-performer, from beach road. If this does happen, my advice is pay her the 500 bht and get her out of the room asap. These gals can be a problem and are not worth spoiling your trip.


You are right to be scared. Frankly this is happening far too frequently. Most guys coming to Pattaya get drugged and robbed at least once in their visit. Sometimes more often. (Although many won't admit it). The only solution is to stay home until Pattaya gets a lot lot safer.

[HenryV]

I'll take your impudent advice.

Sorry.


Couldn't you PM him directly and save us the quote of a whole post to ask for taxi recommendation?

Just asking. And if he doesn't have PM facilities how is he supposed to PM you?

[Cunning Stunt]

I have never heard any mongers get drugged and robbed in Bangkok. Do you mean that BKK is much safer than Pattaya?
Either you don't know what you are talking about, or wondrous malicious.I suggest you guys look up irony in the dictionary. Mouse1 clearly had his tongue firmly in his cheek when he made his post.

Some supposed mongers are so scared of their own shadow, its a wonder they get out of their own front door.

[Turgid]

But you need to be careful in banging the ladies, when you stay hard for a long time. Because latex condoms can easily rub the lady the wrong way and cause her some pain and discomfort. Plenty of lube is what you need at first, and then some splashes of water, when the lube dries out.

Most ladies won't tell you, when the lube is insufficient, and they are feeling uncomfortable. They just want to end it with you, without telling you why. You need to have some understanding and imagination to guess on your own what's going on and make sure that you aren't injuring the lady, when you are having sex with her.This is very useful information. I have noticed on many occasions that the girl is very excited at the beginning of the session then becomes unenthused after about a half hour to three quarters of an hour of serious pounding, it could very well be because of latex friction. Never thought of that and probability of inability or unwillingness to communicate the problem. Thanks again.

[Dante2]

- Le Carre Blanc.

http://www.pattayafans.de/lecarreblanc-club-pattaya.htm

(use Google Translate)

- The Telephone (bar / lounge / something)

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Telephone-bar-club-pattaya/374152209327497

Little known places, I think both owned by Frenchmen, and supposed to be pretty good. As exhibitionism isn't my thing I haven't been to either.

A few places on Soi 6, I think My Friend You does it.

Also could be had at Babydolls GG (I've seen it done) , Windmill GG (I'm sure they do it, I've seen HJs given out) and probably X-Zone.So telephone is Pattaya tai soi 2, where is le carre blanc?

Thank you

[Ehunter]

Day 1.

Well I just got into Patts from BKK so this will be my home for my further writings of my first trip to Thailand.

The bus took 2hr 45min from BKK east station. Agonizing it was. Should the drive really take that long? I did not understand the buses road strategy. My iPhone showed us using a smaller parallel road to the main highway most times I looked at it. Didn't I see somebody posting that a taxi ride was 45min. Not 2:45? The cost was only 145 Bhat though. We arrived at 18:30 and I thought it would be a snap to taxi it to See Me Spring off Soi 10 and beach road. WRONG.

The tuk-tuk drivers were aggressive about me getting on the back of a motor bike or cattled with other people in the back of a truck (what are these things called?). I walked out to the main road with my backpack and the taxi's would not stop for me. What was up with that! To make a long story short, I was forced onto the truck, and after, walked a lot farther than I should have. By the time I arrived at my hotel sweat was pouring off me like I just ran 5 miles in hot weather. I was so tired when I got to the hotel, I checked in, showered, and collapsed on the bed for hours. When I came to it was 00:30, I was hungry, needed to get more minutes on my phone, etc.

I walked to the walking street to see what my possibilities were. WoW is all I have to say. I got something to eat, then decided to go over to Soi 6 for a quick BJ and call it a night. By the time I got there the street was closed. No way was I going to walk all the way back to WS and look for a quick BJ. My hotel was half way so I just decided to call it a night.

[RBDave]

Day 1.

Well I just got into Patts from BKK so this will be my home for my further writings of my first trip to Thailand.

The bus took 2hr 45min from BKK east station. Agonizing it was. Should the drive really take that long? I did not understand the buses road strategy. My iPhone showed us using a smaller parallel road to the main highway most times I looked at it. Didn't I see somebody posting that a taxi ride was 45min. Not 2:45? The cost was only 145 Bhat though. We arrived at 18:30 and I thought it would be a snap to taxi it to See Me Spring off Soi 10 and beach road. WRONG.

The tuk-tuk drivers were aggressive about me getting on the back of a motor bike or cattled with other people in the back of a truck (what are these things called?). I walked out to the main road with my backpack and the taxi's would not stop for me. What was up with that! To make a long story short, I was forced onto the truck, and after, walked a lot farther than I should have. By the time I arrived at my hotel sweat was pouring off me like I just ran 5 miles in hot weather. I was so tired when I got to the hotel, I checked in, showered, and collapsed on the bed for hours. When I came to it was 00:30, I was hungry, needed to get more minutes on my phone, etc.

I walked to the walking street to see what my possibilities were. WoW is all I have to say. I got something to eat, then decided to go over to Soi 6 for a quick BJ and call it a night. By the time I got there the street was closed. No way was I going to walk all the way back to WS and look for a quick BJ. My hotel was half way so I just decided to call it a night.Buses are meant to let people get on and off at any stop. Even express buses at times. I don't think I'd want to take a taxi from BKK to Pattaya that only took 45 minutes. That guy would be way too fast for my comfort level.

The shared trucks are called "song taew" which means two rows, referring to the two rows of seating. In Pattaya, they are frequently referred to as "Baht Bus". If you say song taew anywhere in Thailand, you will be understood. However, baht bus is limited to Pattaya.

Because of the first and last miles of going between Bangkok and Pattaya, I started taking car service and never looked back. Yes, it's more expensive, but I don't have to fuck with lugging my suitcase around.

At that time of night, you could have gone to beach road for a freelancer for a quick BJ.

[Mouse1]

I suggest you guys look up irony in the dictionary. Mouse1 clearly had his tongue firmly in his cheek when he made his post.

Some supposed mongers are so scared of their own shadow, its a wonder they get out of their own front door.Thank you.

No-one is saying Pattaya is the safest place in the world, but probably safer than most cities in the West. Of course it always helps to have your wits about you.

Incidentally, yesterday I left my hired bike parked in a busy street in Pattaya for a few hours with the key still in the ignition. I hurried back, only to discover... it was still there... Try that near the Mersey or the Thames or the Tyne. :(

[Mouse1]

I've only read one convincing story of a guy being drugged and robbed (on this forum?). In most other cases I suspect the guy is just drunk, then wakes up a few hours later to find the girl has skipped with the contents of his wallet. Drugging is a lot more difficult (and dangerous) than is commonly believed, which is why anaesthetists get a fat pay-check.

[Mouse1]

Day 1.

Well I just got into Patts from BKK so this will be my home for my further writings of my first trip to Thailand.

The bus took 2hr 45min from BKK east station. Agonizing it was. Should the drive really take that long? I did not understand the buses road strategy. My iPhone showed us using a smaller parallel road to the main highway most times I looked at it. Didn't I see somebody posting that a taxi ride was 45min. Not 2:45? The cost was only 145 Bhat though. We arrived at 18:30 and I thought it would be a snap to taxi it to See Me Spring off Soi 10 and beach road. WRONG.

The tuk-tuk drivers were aggressive about me getting on the back of a motor bike or cattled with other people in the back of a truck (what are these things called?). I walked out to the main road with my backpack and the taxi's would not stop for me. What was up with that! To make a long story short, I was forced onto the truck, and after, walked a lot farther than I should have. By the time I arrived at my hotel sweat was pouring off me like I just ran 5 miles in hot weather. I was so tired when I got to the hotel, I checked in, showered, and collapsed on the bed for hours. When I came to it was 00:30, I was hungry, needed to get more minutes on my phone, etc.

I walked to the walking street to see what my possibilities were. WoW is all I have to say. I got something to eat, then decided to go over to Soi 6 for a quick BJ and call it a night. By the time I got there the street was closed. No way was I going to walk all the way back to WS and look for a quick BJ. My hotel was half way so I just decided to call it a night.As RBDave says, for the hassle at either end of the journey, buses are just not worth it. I am (relatively) cash-rich and time-poor.

Travel in Pattaya is very easy once you have got the baht-buses sussed (not difficult). Personally I always hire a bike and enjoy the freedom. If you do so, always wear a helmet and carry your licence. You will be stopped by the police.

I'm in Pattaya right now if you want any advice or suggestions.

[Ehunter]

Thank you.

No-one is saying Pattaya is the safest place in the world, but probably safer than most cities in the West. Of course it always helps to have your wits about you.

Incidentally, yesterday I left my hired bike parked in a busy street in Pattaya for a few hours with the key still in the ignition. I hurried back, only to discover. It was still there. Try that near the Mersey or the Thames or the Tyne. .In the DR that bike would not have lasted 3 minutes.

Here in Patts I can stand about anywhere looking at stuff on my iPhone. Doing the same in the DR and I would have to worry about a passer-byer snatching it out my hand and jumping on the back of his friends motor bike for a safe getaway.

To me. This place and BKK is loads safer than other places I have been.

[RBDave]

Thank you.

Somewhat refreshing to actually get useful info on this board.You're welcome. His is a popular service. I've read some negative reviews, but so far I haven't had any issues.

He seems to have a large fleet of cars or contractors. While at the CNG station, my driver pointed to all the cars waiting for fuel and said,"Mr T, Mr T, Mr T".

His drivers call you before they arrive to give you time to come down to the lobby and check out. While I was in the lobby, the security guy came over and said,"Mr T for David." Then two of us stood up. We had to ask the driver what the destination was, I was going to DMK, while the other guy was going to U-Tapao. Coincidentally, we were both flying to Phuket. The driver was for him. I had to wait until 3 minutes for my driver.

I think it is worth the extra 100 baht to have them wait for you at the airport with your name on a card. Once I had his cute niece drive me. Although, I did feel guilty about her carrying my suitcase. It just didn't feel gentlemanly, but she insisted.

[Ehunter]

As RBDave says, for the hassle at either end of the journey, buses are just not worth it. I am (relatively) cash-rich and time-poor.

Travel in Pattaya is very easy once you have got the baht-buses sussed (not difficult). Personally I always hire a bike and enjoy the freedom. If you do so, always wear a helmet and carry your licence. You will be stopped by the police.

I'm in Pattaya right now if you want any advice or suggestions.Thanks Mouse.

I typically roll without a wingman as they tend to hold me and my style back.

I will keep you in mind though if I come across something I have no experience with.

[Ehunter]

Day 2.

I woke up the next morning, put all my clothes away, and headed back to Soi 6 to begin my day. My friend You was my target place. This place was written about on other sites. I chose the best looker out there, bought drinks, and arranged service. The bar has two party rooms right across from the bar with three sofas in each room. There is no door, only sparsely bead curtain made out of clams so you or others have no problems looking in. It depends on how the girl ties up the entry way whether others can watch actually. I saw past posters complaining about these rooms being too dark. It was kinda dark, but not too bad. As I understand it, multiple guys can be serviced at the same time in either room. That would be a welcome site. Maybe three girls heads bobbing up and down all at the same time. Count me in! And lets get a round of musical chairs going. Pass the girls around after awhile. Who wants in?

The girl was decent looking but nothing to brag about. Service was. Average. Maybe her friends were better? The cost was 700 service and my coke plus her oj were 50 bhat each. I gave her the change from my 1k bill which was 200Bhat. She looked happy. Nice way to start out the day.

Had lunch about 2nd road and soi 11 at a place called Kiss seafood recommended by the hotel cleaning lady. 200Bhat lunch but the people walking up to you every 5 minutes to sell you crap gets to be annoying. No different from the DR actually.

Back to the hotel to research where the pump station is located. The plan was to get drained before hitting WS and keeping the little head wanting to barfine something much more expensive. I found the Pumpstation on Soi 13.

WOW do they have a hot girl working there. The other two, one was a butterface and the next kind of a dog. The hot chick is an 8 in the face and 8. 5 in the body. She has something else going on because instead of conversing with me she was texting friends continuously like I was not there. If I had had another alternative plan I would have picked up and left no matter how hot she was so I decided to stick with her.

You walk out the back of the bar and back in next door, up the stairs and into a bar room that is no longer in use. It reminds me of a private prohibition bar area. There are multiple couches, and you have to be able to put up with multiple guys getting blown around you if they are busy. I was the only one. She put on a porn on the monitor before we got started.

Technique – 7 out of 10. She did the CIM and then dribbled into a plastic bag. I won't repeat unless there are no other options.

I did ask her if there were other girls that worked that were also nice looking. Said she did not know. I asked her of other places near with the same service. She did not know. Then I asked her how long she has been working here. She says one year. Go figure. Service was 800 and 2 drinks were 340Bhat. Overpriced and doubt I will return. She is hot enough to work in any of the gogos on WS. She would not be tops but definitely noticeable at any place she danced.

Dinner just off of WS. 160 Bhat. After I wandered into Alcatraz. Had a coke. One awesome girl there I would call a stunner. 9.3 face and 9. 4 body. Got a boner just watching her even though I just came from the pump house. The other girls averaged about 8 face and 8 body.

You know one thing I picked up on in most every gogo in BKK and Patts is the staff is watching everybody at all times. Incredible how I can slowly reach into my pocket and a staff member is right there waiting for either money or to pay me attention. I noticed the same multiple places.

I went from Alcatraz to Babydolls. I walked in. 10 girls dancing, and I sat down on the opposite left side of the room. The quality of girls here far lower than I expected. Average face=7, average body 6. 0. I ordered a coke. There was one classy looking hot dancer in the whole place. After the dance set was finished I can't believe she stepped off the stage and made a be-line straight to me and sat down very cozily next to me. While dancing her back was to me the whole time. She must have zeroed in on me in via the wall mirrors. The best girl in the place. Why the hell me?

Her name was Cho. Sexyyyy. (no number for some reason) I buy her a drink, her hands start wandering and soon enough she is trying to jack me off though my shorts. That, just for a stupid drink? I decided I should at least give her something. The smallest I had was a 50bhat note. She turned giddy and focused back on my dick. Anyway she tried her best to jack me off for 50. After about 15 min I decided to slip her the next smallest I had. 100note and she tried her best to jack me off for a full hour.

Mamasan was happy with the drinks I was buying and the funds I was slipping Cho. I could tell she liked me. I asked Mamasan if there were any small private areas on the premises because Cho was working too hard to get me of though my pants.

I had to tell Mamasan I was slightly short on cash to barfine. She kept telling 'no problem'. 'No problem' my money ok! I actually did not want to drop another 2-2500 ST. So I skipped out and headed back to Soi 6 for a night cap.

What the hell time does Soi 6 close anyway! I fked up again! Closed. And that is how I finished the night. At this time I am not too interested in the beach road girls.

[Amex Spg]

What the hell time does Soi 6 close anyway! I fked up again! Closed.Soi 6:

- Mostly open from 1 pm to 1 am.

- A few places are open til later, such as Passion Dance Club (a faux-GG stage w / dancers & ST rooms upstairs) is open until 2 am.

- Soi 6 gets busy around 4/5 pm and is best approx 6/7 pm before the best ladies are worn out from all the day's customers.

[Dr BJ]

I have always picked up a car or taxi to Pattaya at the arrivals at the new airport for 1000bht, but now Air Asia uses DM airport I was wondering what is the deal there? Last trip I was quoted at the taxi ramp 2200 bht and eventuall had to take one for 1600 bht. Can any brother tell me the score at DM now and what is the best attack method?Insist they use the meter and be prepared to walk away if they decline. Taxi drivers are required to use the meter but they will try their luck. A taxi from Sukhumvit with the meter to Pattaya will cost a maximum of 1, 200 baht. From DM it should not be much more.

Regards,

BJ

[Mouse1]

Thanks Mouse.

I typically roll without a wingman as they tend to hold me and my style back.Oh me too. Unfortunately I have little style and almost no substance so can't risk being held back in the slightest. I was only offering to meet over a beer for half an hour or so, before I would politely make my excuses and be on my way.

[Mouse1]

Mamasan was happy with the drinks I was buying and the funds I was slipping Cho. I could tell she liked me.I'll just read those two sentences again.

No, no, sorry, I just have a cynical mind. I am sure she loves you long time. :)

Just out of interest, how much cash did you finally leave in the bar?

[Mouse1]

Soi 6:

- Mostly open from 1 pm to 1 am.

- A few places are open til later, such as Passion Dance Club (a faux-GG stage w / dancers & ST rooms upstairs) is open until 2 am.

- Soi 6 gets busy around 4/5 pm and is best approx 6/7 pm before the best ladies are worn out from all the day's customers.Agreed. And if you're getting there after midnight you're likely to find slim pickings. The girls are tired, or drunk, or thinking about sleep or tucked up in someone's bed.

[Ehunter]

I'll just read those two sentences again.

No, no, sorry, I just have a cynical mind. I am sure she loves you long time. .

Just out of interest, how much cash did you finally leave in the bar?Well, lets see. It was 240 per round and I bought 3 rounds + 1 starter = 840baht.

Then since Cho started jacking me off on her own accord and allowed me finger access for the price of a drink, that qualified her for unasked gifts. She got 50+100 + extra 100 tip as I left the establishment= 250.

So all in all I dropped about 1100 bhat.

I have a surprise for her next time.

Ok we can meet for a drink if you like, then part ways. I have an early evening plan, wanted to have a look at "nice with ice" by the post office or the telephone bar club, then have dinner, then WS. Just like last night. I will PM you my local phone.

[Mouse1]

Well, lets see. It was 240 per round and I bought 3 rounds + 1 starter = 840baht.

Then since Cho started jacking me off on her own accord and allowed me finger access for the price of a drink, that qualified her for unasked gifts. She got 50+100 + extra 100 tip as I left the establishment= 250.

So all in all I dropped about 1100 bhat.

I have a surprise for her next time.

Ok we can meet for a drink if you like, then part ways. I have an early evening plan, wanted to have a look at "nice with ice" by the post office or the telephone bar club, then have dinner, then WS. Just like last night. I will PM you my local phone.You had a good time, that's cool. It's not all about value for money, etc.

Thanks for the PM. I have plans for tonight, but perhaps tomorrow.

[John Huk]

So telephone is Pattaya tai soi 2, where is le carre blanc?

Thank youLe Carre Blanc is on Soi 33 off 3rd road

[Ehunter]

Le Carre Blanc is on Soi 33 off 3rd roadWell yesterday worked out to be the bad, then the really good. I have been trying to get into the habit of doing soi 6 in the morning, and some other new venue in the evening.

A recent post on a different site claimed there were two real standouts in the BJ department working at Full Moon Bar on Soi6, next to the My Friend You bar I described yesterday. I walked up, asked for Pim, she-on-holiday! They screeched. Then I asked for Poo who stood up, smiled, and lead me into the bar.

Poo was fairly young, chubby, and zero words of English girl. I did not mind as long as she knew how to work a dick. Well, she didn't, she had zero technique. I could tell she was willing to work hard if I could only communicate better with her. I had to cut my losses and take matters into my own hand. At the right time she understood I wanted her to CIM. She took it well, held it in her mouth for the 10 seconds to towel up and walk down the hall to the communal bathroom and spit (not run but WALK). This is what I am liking about Thailand. The girls don't act like your cum is on par with battery acid. Well. Better luck next time on Soi 6 I guess. Now she could get back to her fish on a stick lunch she was taken away from.

I went for my own lunch and was able to get the name of the delicious condiment I have been sprinkling on my rice dishes. I bet I can find this stuff in the states, I have tons of Asian food stores around me. Pig-Naum-Pla is how the restaurant guy wrote it for me. I think I see vendors making it on the street, crushing up the small chili ingredients with a wooden Mortal&Pestal.

Back at my room I made my plans to go to Carre Blanc (read a few posts back where others recommended it) and if that did not pan out, check out Nice-With-Ice bar by the post office.

Carre Blanc was just what I was looking for. This is of course a strict BJ bar, from 2pm-1am open 7 days a week. The motor bike guy said he knew where to take me. Well, he really didn't and before I realized it I was standing on the street corner with my thumb in my ass needing to pull out my iPhone again. I was able to walk the rest of the way.

Carre Blanc is a bar about 12ft deep x 40ft long. The 20ft on the right is the bar area. Then there is a heavy duty red curtain separating the 20ft on the left. Most bjs happen in the curtain area. 500B goes to the girl. 300 goes to the bar when one goes into the curtain area. I think you save 300 if you socially get serviced directly at the bar but if everybody does it the bar does not get their cut. I am just guessing.

As you poke your head into the curtain area, the back wall has a black vinyl couch. Then the walls on your right and left also have the same kind of couch. Each of the three couches has their own knee-high coffee table in front. Then, the whole curtained off room is lit by a photographic red lamp. So you look around and feel like the whole experience is somewhat surreal.

When getting serviced in the curtained area, you can glance around and see the other two girls bobbing up and down under the red light. Great way to survey technique and this adds to sluttyness of place.

I have to say though. These girls work their asses off. There were two old gents there getting serviced while I was and these girls were really working their asses off trying to get them off.

There were about 10 girls there when I stopped in at 19:30. I noticed they stocked all body types. One girl there was sexy as hell, had about a 9. 5 body in a pair of low-rider booty shorts to show off her flat belly, and athletic physique. Her face was ok. Maybe a 7 and very outgoing. All girls were outgoing actually, I guess you have to be. What are you supposed to do when three girls come over and all start reaching in for your dick? Ok. Dumb question!

While I was there I spoke to two English guys and one French, then the two guys from Holland did not seem to want to mingle with anybody. The French guy was quite a talker. He tells me this bar is one of the few left that operates and girls have the same sex attitude / service of 20 years ago. Well. I guess I would not know. One think I can say though. The girls are far from being mercenary. Seems like they want to have fun too.

Bottom line is I got popped twice. The second time with the hot girl and her friend in a double. One would suck me, the other would mash my face into their cootch. They took turns at this. I really had a lot of fun at this place and I have a somewhat reserved personality. I guess I should say the girls will force you into having a great time.

Everybody keeps telling me I have to go to the Telephone bar too. It is on my list.

[Ehunter]

Actually it is about value for the money.

On a few occasions I overtipped for a really good time. Maybe value wise not a good decision.

Then later when deciding whether I should repeat with the girl I usually say no as I'm sure the girl would be expecting the same big tip. Since the big tip skewed value in wrong direction I move on to something I think has better value.

Its market mechanism at work.Go back and read it again Herold.

He wrote "not ALL", meaning the value for the money IS STILL a component of the experience. It just does not need to be weighted as the only component.

[Mouse1]

Go back and read it again Herold.

He wrote "not ALL", meaning the value for the money IS STILL a component of the experience. It just does not need to be weighted as the only component.Exactly. I've frittered money away because I was enjoying myself, and, hey, you only live once. Conversely, it would not be smart to do that every day.

[RBDave]

Actually it is about value for the money.

On a few occasions I overtipped for a really good time. Maybe value wise not a good decision.

Then later when deciding whether I should repeat with the girl I usually say no as I'm sure the girl would be expecting the same big tip. Since the big tip skewed value in wrong direction I move on to something I think has better value.

Its market mechanism at work.You bring up a good point. I do the same thing. You can never lower your rate on a repeat.

[Mouse1]

Well yesterday worked out to be the bad, then the really good. I have been trying to get into the habit of doing soi 6 in the morning, and some other new venue in the evening.At my age I reckon I can manage three f*s each day, if they are well spaced out. So my planned routine is to find a new girl in the afternoon, about 4-5pm. Go for test-drive. Then in the evening pick-up a girl by pre-arrangement that I know will give me a good time, and take her back LT. F* in the evening, and f* in the morning. Kick girl out at 1am. Repeat. Like all plans in Pattaya it rarely works perfectly.

[Ehunter]

Exactly. I've frittered money away because I was enjoying myself, and, hey, you only live once. Conversely, it would not be smart to do that every day.Wise words.

Others will understand better when they mature on this planet a little longer and they realize how a piddly sums of money can damper the maximum amount of enjoyment they receive.

Man I still have not had lunch. Got to go out again.

[Mouse1]

At my age I reckon I can manage three f*s each day, if they are well spaced out. So my planned routine is to find a new girl in the afternoon, about 4-5pm. Go for test-drive. Then in the evening pick-up a girl by pre-arrangement that I know will give me a good time, and take her back LT. F* in the evening, and f* in the morning. Kick girl out at 1am. Repeat. Like all plans in Pattaya it rarely works perfectly.That should have been 'kick girl out at 11am'.

[HenryV]

Find out if a gal by the name of "Nit" is still working there, or in the area. Not fat, about 5ft 2in with really nice big well proportioned tits. Gave me the ride of my life.

You won't be disappointed.

[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1393160]Day 2.

I woke up the next morning, put all my clothes away, and headed back to Soi 6 to begin my day. My friend You was my target place.

[CuloAssMan]

Wise words.

Others will understand better when they mature on this planet a little longer and they realize how a piddly sums of money can damper the maximum amount of enjoyment they receive.

Man I still have not had lunch. Got to go out again.Just wanted to say "hello" to Ehunter online. Glad to read you are enjoying LOS vacation!

[Dante2]

You bring up a good point. I do the same thing. You can never lower your rate on a repeat.If you are on vacation thats probably true, but if you live somewhere you can say something like "you know I really like going with you a lot and would like to see you often but xxx per time is a little to much for me" and the girl will usually understand and drop a little off the price as long as she doesn't hate her time with you.

[Dante2]

Day 2.

The girl was decent looking but nothing to brag about. Service was. Average. Maybe her friends were better? The cost was 700 service and my coke plus her oj were 50 bhat each. I gave her the change from my 1k bill which was 200Bhat. She looked happy. Nice way to start out the day.You didn't have to pay 300 for the barfine?

You can walk in and get it done for 700 total? Do they do sex to or just BJ? This was at myfriendyou bar in soi 6.

[Ehunter]

Just wanted to say "hello" to Ehunter online. Glad to read you are enjoying LOS vacation!Right on Culo!

[Ehunter]

Day 4
After my experience in Club Carre yesterday, too many patrons are telling me to visit the telephone bar. I had it on my list anyway so off I go. The place is farther out than Carre according to my iPhone walking route. Club Carre's 0. 9mi and Telephone club 1. 5 miles from my Soi 10 hotel in the direction of Road 2/3. The tricky thing is not many drivers know these places. So they scratch their heads, ask your approval to drop you off when they think you are close and you waste further time from there. Yup, happened to me already. Now I am showing them the iPhone route and they smile, study the route, and getting me there on the recommended routes.

I arrive at the telephone bar, push the buzzer and eventually a lady comes to open the door. Wow, just one other guy in there. All the girls are lined up and I have to say I am not too impressed. I bypass the 8 girl line, belly up to the bar and in a quick moment a cutie I did not notice goes passing on by. I tap her, she slides in next to me and I buy her a drink, the names Som. Cuteness scale 7. 8, body 7. 0 The next cutest was about 6. 9, body 7. 0. On average the place is. 6.4, body 6. 9. I rate the Carre about a half point better in looks and bodys. Note: I left out the two Carre hot ones because they would skew the averages too much. (one had a 9. 5 body, the other 8. 5. Faces very acceptable though could be better). As a side note this experience is on par with other peoples observations coming from other websites. But you never know, tomorrow is a different day and in this trade things can change quickly.

Patrons tell me the same Frenchman that owns Carre owns Telephone booth so I don't understand why the talent is biased in favor of Carre. Might be that the father away from touristy walking street, the more the girl looks dwindle as money is not as abundant. Better looking girls are always on top of the pecking order.

This place is layed out differently than Club Carre. They operate on two levels as there are bedrooms upstairs. To me, I could not equate how this is considered to be out in the open BJ style? Maybe what they do is try to keep things private and when no rooms are left, it turns more public. I am just guessing because they lead me to a private room for the deed. The girls technique, about a 7 but she could go deep.

Not much more to write home about I guess. Early evening I went back down to Soi 6. Not-so-good-a-session with the girl playing delay games with me. From now I take nothing but recommendations from the mamasans when I have no recon info.

Later in the evening I spent some time in Windmill. Most of the girls there are friendly but business-like. The girls there ask 100b to finger or lick their cootch. When things slow down enough, you get more time and unasked for contact. If anybody is going sometime soon, they have a hot spinner there you should know about. She is the only one wearing black rimmed glasses, librarian look. She is completely unapproachable. Others commented the same however she is really fun to watch doing the lezzie shows. I have a feeling she is completely new to the system and is afraid to engage or open up. For example, Once I touched her knee with a little finger vibrator just to get her attention and she aggressively shoo-ed my hand away very unfriendly-like. Then 10 seconds later she coils up next to me, rests her head on my shoulder while sitting in cannon-ball position, seemingly wanting to use my body for warmth. Maybe she is looking for somebody she can get comfortable with, but on her own terms? I don't know. I dropped maybe 1. 5K in the place just having fun.

After Windmill, I dropped in to Babydolls. I promised the Mamasan there I would return. As soon as I slipped in the door Mamasan was all over me. 'you come to bar-fine Cho! ' Then I look to the side and there is Cho attaching herself to me. You might remember I wrote about Cho earlier. I got her for ST $1800 including barfine + 100b taxi. I had a very good session with her. Beautifully lean body, nice butt, B-cups, very sexy. She is worth a little more IMHO but am not one to spoil.

[Ehunter]

Hey. Anybody have some recon on WS Sapphire Club?

I noticed there were three toilet rooms in the co-ed bathroom. 100% private.

My first thought is whether any planned rendezvouses are possible for a quick good time in any of the stalls?

Has anybody tried this?

If not in this club, any others where it is easy to get away with?

[FoxRot]

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[ProfetaPk]

This girl is a scammer. Her name is Nat, and she claims that she works for an insurance company. Met her at hotel lobby and she speaks good (almost) English. She talked me into meeting her "teacher" girlfriend after work. She will come along as the translator as her friend was not fluent in English.

She conned me into spending over 2000 bahts on her in the pretext of introducing her girlfriend who never showed up. Meanwhile, she had the most expensive meal at the restaurant, and several expensive drinks. While we were waiting for her friend to show up, she kept on talking / texting to her friend. She inquired about my financial status, income, etc, for which I gave her bogus information. She claimed she needed it so that she can sell me cheap insurance!

I did not pay much attention when she passed our meeting location (a casual, cheap place) to the expensive seafood joint next door. By the time I figured out that she was lying and just making me buy her expensive food / drinks, it was too late.

By the way, she did not want any money for her cupid services. All she wanted was a new phone (cost about $500) if I like the girl she was supposed to introduce to me. All along she appeared to be very professional wearing professional attire.

The next day she wanted to do it all over again. Also, I saw her talking to two 40+ tourists (appeared N. American) at the Holiday Inn lobby.

Beware of this scammer!Thanks for the scam report. I must admit she isn't the usual avarage and=minded girl. Very smart indeed.

Happy mongering

[Luvpuss]

"Most guys coming to Pattaya get drugged and robbed at least once in their visit."

Either you don't know what you are talking about, or wondrous malicious.

I, and my three friends, have been to Pattaya about 10x in the last 5 years. The worst I have experienced is a non-performer, or under-performer, from beach road. If this does happen, my advice is pay her the 500 bht and get her out of the room asap. These gals can be a problem and are not worth spoiling your trip.I have had the exact same experience as you and your friends. Never had a problem. And you advice on the BR non-performers is good. Is it worth $17 to fuck up a trip??

[Luvpuss]

I've only read one convincing story of a guy being drugged and robbed (on this forum?). In most other cases I suspect the guy is just drunk, then wakes up a few hours later to find the girl has skipped with the contents of his wallet. Drugging is a lot more difficult (and dangerous) than is commonly believed, which is why anaesthetists get a fat pay-check.I have met a few guys that claimed they were robbed and drugged. After talking with them for a few minutes I see what fuck ups they are. No doubt they totally deserved it.

[Ehunter]

You should try the stalls they have where you buy the gas. They stink which will add to your pleasure. Sukhumvit Road between Central and North Pattaya. They have some cute attendants who will take care of you.Tell us more about this Fox.

How often do you go to get serviced in places like this?

They must be good for you else you would not recommend them, ya idiot

[Ehunter]

I have been reading about this bar on Soi 6 that is under farang management. Seems these guys are trying to recruit top talent and really make their bar unique. The name of the place is called the Night Wish bar. Last I read they were trying to put in a 'BJ balcony' and funny enough some kind of Glory Hole thing. So since I am here without much to do at the moment I decided to walk down and see if I could learn anything.

I found the place about mid Soi and there were two guys drinking inside, not the owners, but I chatted with them anyway. I did not get any answers but was able to learn a couple things. There is one Ex- Devils Den girl working there. Pretty good looking and with a body all pumped up for sex. I did not catch her name. There are one or two other girls there that are also worth a glance. Anyway the guys have interest in two other bars as well. One was the Sky bar. Maybe I will return and see if one of the owners are there today.

One topic that came up was these guys were taking supplements they claim triples the volume of their ejaculate and 'desire'. The name of the stuff is called Tribulus. Wiki says controlled studies indicate false claims but these guys were all high and mighty on how the stuff really does work.

I spent a few hours at the bar then back to the hotel for a rest. I did not get too much sleep the night before after pulling that Babydolls girl from the gogo.

At about 9pm I made my way back to familiar grounds, Carre Blanc. Place was full of 7-8 old French guys. Kind of pissed me off because none of them bought a single girl a drink that I ever saw. Me being pressured to buy drinks for all 10 of the girls is a but much I think. I complained about it to one of the 'head' girls (in every sense of the word) who of course was also not happy about it either because nobody can make a living with those guys. She said she would pass the info back to the mamasan.

Anyway, Dao, one of the girls with a GFE personality is the one who nailed me first. Good head movement and not just your up-down, up-down boring stuff. So far every BJ I have got here in Thailand has been CIM but no swallows.

While on-topic of the girls, I noticed there are two basic personality types. The first is a GFE type where the girl moves in slowly, tries to get a feel for your vibe before taking her time to squeeze up your dick. She is always looking at you for approvals to get more aggressive. The next is the PSE type, she is overflowing with confidence and feels she does not need your approval if she wants to suck your dick. She just does it and does not care if there is an audience around. Well Carre Blanc has about 70/30 GFE to PSE mix.

I had one last round with one of the PSE girls before I left. I can't remember her name at this point. After the deed she says 'you come back in again to-moorrooo. I still not done with you!

[Mr Gogo]

I have been reading about this bar on Soi 6 that is under farang management. Seems these guys are trying to recruit top talent and really make their bar unique. The name of the place is called the Night Wish bar. Last I read they were trying to put in a 'BJ balcony' and funny enough some kind of Glory Hole thing. So since I am here without much to do at the moment I decided to walk down and see if I could learn anything.

I found the place about mid Soi and there were two guys drinking inside, not the owners, but I chatted with them anyway. I did not get any answers but was able to learn a couple things. There is one Ex- Devils Den girl working there. Pretty good looking and with a body all pumped up for sex. I did not catch her name. There are one or two other girls there that are also worth a glance. Anyway the guys have interest in two other bars as well. One was the Sky bar. Maybe I will return and see if one of the owners are there today.

One topic that came up was these guys were taking supplements they claim triples the volume of their ejaculate and 'desire'. The name of the stuff is called Tribulus. Wiki says controlled studies indicate false claims but these guys were all high and mighty on how the stuff really does work.

I spent a few hours at the bar then back to the hotel for a rest. I did not get too much sleep the night before after pulling that Babydolls girl from the gogo.

At about 9pm I made my way back to familiar grounds, Carre Blanc. Place was full of 7-8 old French guys. Kind of pissed me off because none of them bought a single girl a drink that I ever saw. Me being pressured to buy drinks for all 10 of the girls is a but much I think. I complained about it to one of the 'head' girls (in every sense of the word) who of course was also not happy about it either because nobody can make a living with those guys. She said she would pass the info back to the mamasan.

Anyway, Dao, one of the girls with a GFE personality is the one who nailed me first. Good head movement and not just your up-down, up-down boring stuff. So far every BJ I have got here in Thailand has been CIM but no swallows.

While on-topic of the girls, I noticed there are two basic personality types. The first is a GFE type where the girl moves in slowly, tries to get a feel for your vibe before taking her time to squeeze up your dick. She is always looking at you for approvals to get more aggressive. The next is the PSE type, she is overflowing with confidence and feels she does not need your approval if she wants to suck your dick. She just does it and does not care if there is an audience around. Well Carre Blanc has about 70/30 GFE to PSE mix.

I had one last round with one of the PSE girls before I left. I can't remember her name at this point. After the deed she says 'you come back in again to-moorrooo. I still not done with you!Sorry I missed you bro, great reporting kudos.

[Zauberfee]

There is one Ex- Devils Den girl working there. Pretty good looking and with a body all pumped up for sex. I did not catch her name.It's Ning, who also formerly worked at Welkom Inn / Belgische Botschaft at Soi 3 before she headed to Nightwish Bar

[Dante2]

You didn't have to pay 300 for the barfine?

You can walk in and get it done for 700 total? Do they do sex to or just BJ? This was at myfriendyou bar in soi 6?Also at le carre can you get a BJ from one of the PSE girls for 500 and not pay the 300 for going to the backroom if you do it in the open?

[Ehunter]

Day 6.

Don't read this if you don't care for blow by blow field report details. I had fun so I wanted to write about it.

I came to Thailand with a load of sexy clothes bought from yandy dot com, and since I have not been bringing gogo girls back to my room I decided to give the girls most of what I have at Carre Blanc. I got there about 4pm. We are talking slutty catholic school girl uniforms, crotchless panties. Just slutty stuff. The girls had a blast going through it all and laughing at all the crotchless stuff. One girl was so giddy over how great she looked in one of the pieces, she kept it on while we retreated to the back.

It was more of the same, sucky sucky, CIM. Cracked me up when she stood up with a mouth full of cum and said. 'Hmmm! Mai Vitamannn! ' She is slightly older than the other girls, but hell, what is not to like with an attitude like that.

I left and returned later in the evening at about 10pm. I met this exPat at the bar who is living here from Canada. Turned out we have a lot in common, everything from the professional world to our focal preferences of Pattaya debauchery.

Because we had a lot in common, we talked and talked. Off to the side, the girls that are latched onto us are having a real hard time getting our attention for anything more than a drink or two. The one girl on my left gets fed up. She puts her face in my lap to try and blow me through my shorts and when I continue to ignore and chat with my new buddy, she reaches in up the leg of my shorts, and pulls my dick out. My shorts are now stretched out to the side and in no time, there I am getting blown on my bar stool. The other girl flanked to my right is either thinking she is now cocked blocked or that she better get involved or she does not make any money. I look at her and she is now pouting! She bellows out loud something in Thai, grabs the head of other girl blowing me, and starts shoving her head down on my cock forcefully. Wish I knew what it was she was saying! All I know is, mamasan is grinning ear to ear hearing this and seeing this head rising up and down from the bar. She was only watching from 2ft away but the bar partition was between us.

From here on I pretty much forgot I was talking to the other guy. But when I glanced to the side I see the two are now also down and dirty into it too. I think he was banging his girl in-between bouts of sucks because I heard something about a condom being involved.

So there I am getting some girls head pushed up and down on my dick by another mildly annoyed girl. When the head shoves started, the girl starts laughing with my dick all the way in her mouth. I am not making this shit up!

We progress from this, to me standing. Both girls are now cheek and cheek. One paying attention to my boys, the other one doing the blowing. They traded positions before we took some steps over to the couch. Those two girls worked on me for over 45 min as I was having troubles popping. The pouty girl got the load. Revenge to the other for trying to cock block her out in the beginning.

So I guess the moral of the story is. It is always good to ignore your girls now and then as some just hate not receiving any attention.

BTW, Mamasan is no slouch in looks. Pretty face and decent body. Not sure if she is ever available though.

[Ehunter]

Sorry I missed you bro, great reporting kudos.We will see if we can't make it work next time Gogo.

[Ehunter]

Also at le carre can you get a BJ from one of the PSE girls for 500 and not pay the 300 for going to the backroom if you do it in the open?I don't know. I thought I read that out-in-the-open there is no extra charge if you don't go behind the curtain but I just can't validate. For the most part I don't want to look like a cheap skate by looking and questioning the bills with everybody around me at the bar. I can't even read the bill slips anyway under the dim light!

Every time I go in there I drop between 2-3k Bhat. I was just there again this afternoon. Some girls have the day off and others have replaced them. One girl is dammed cute, named Cat, with a gogo dancer body. After a full survey. 4 of the 10 girls look under 30. 4 more look between 30-40. I think two may be over 40.

Yes, you can bang the girls behind the curtain if you want. My buddy was banging cute little Cat that way as I was buttoning up from my 3some with two others.

I think after this trip I think I will be condemned to burn in that Inferno of yours for ever lasting eternity. Better than freezing to death I guess.

[Archetype]

Is the small taxi stand on Second Road in front of the Avenue Mall (roughly at the intersection of Soi 13) there currently? I am told the Avenue Mall is under repairs.

[HenryV]

I suggest you look at the number of posts (11) by the indivual who asked the question. Had this been two old timers having some fun, that would be one thing.

Are you so jaded by the scene that you cannot give what appears to be a relative newbie some info. We were all newbies once.

I'll take no info before I get bad info.


I suggest you guys look up irony in the dictionary. Mouse1 clearly had his tongue firmly in his cheek when he made his post.

Some supposed mongers are so scared of their own shadow, its a wonder they get out of their own front door.

[HenryV]

A-1 report. Lots of info, including specifics, and a little subjective analysis.

[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1394326]I have been reading about this bar on Soi 6 that is under farang management. Seems these guys are trying to recruit top talent and really make their bar unique. The name of the place is called the Night Wish bar. Last I read they were trying to put in a 'BJ balcony' and funny enough some kind of Glory Hole thing. So since I am here without much to do at the moment I decided to walk down and see if I could learn anything.

[Ehunter]

My new Canadian expat buddy and I scootered over to Kineree club in the afternoon. There must have been some kind of birthday party there, balloons out front and there was just about no place to sit inside. We are talking 2pm and lots of hot high class freelancers trying to make as much cash as possible. A couple girls in there looked and conducted themselves like $500 / hr vegas hookers. My buddy took the best one in there, the price is 1000B / hr in a 1 hr 300B time-limited room. When the place is busy like now, you have to get put on a waiting list to use a room. Guys asking for showers after the deed are turned away as it was just too busy. My buddies girl said she has no baby and her goal is to make a lot of money first. Anyway, after she steals your cum, she kicks you to the curb and in no time she is hanging all over some other guy for a repeat.

Pretty good barbeque beef, ribs, pork at a nominal cost. I understand the owner is a San Franciscan though a very moody person.

Later in the evening back to Cerre Blanc for more of the same. I need to correct something I posted earlier. I have had sessions with the oldest and least good looking girl there, not because I keep choosing her, but she always weasels her way in to try for a threesome. Her timing is excellent and she knows just when to do it.

Anyway, last night I am sitting on one end of the couch in the bar area. ExPat is on the other end with cute little Thai girl with bangs and great little body between us. She takes my cue and starts blowing me. When she tires and comes up for air, the older girl jumps in out of the shadows and weasels into the action. Before I can really react the older one is really going to town on me. So now I have the young one snuggled up against me, half on top me from the waist up, and we are cheek to cheek. She takes my hand and guides me down for some finger-snatch play. I obviously liked this because I wound up blowing my load into the older girls mouth after a couple minutes. This older one never seems to get tired. She laughs and giggles like she is heaven that guys are letting her sucking their cock all day and she just can't wait for the next one!

Now here is the kicker.

After my orgasm completely subsided she makes the siphoning popping sound coming off the head of my dick, funnels the cum onto her tongue, and leans forward into the younger girls face. She opens up, and shows the young one the cum, and down the hatch it goes! And then she laughs about it! I am telling you, that older biitch is nasty! LOL The younger girl did not seem too phased at this and I could tell there was some pre-cursor to that event I will never get filled on.

Revised Summary, The older one has been the swallower all the time with me starting from her 'My Vitiman' cracks in the beginning up to now.

Now it is my buddies turn. The younger one rolls to my right and starts blowing my buddy on the other end of the couch. Was nice as she popped her ass up in the air and over me to do it. She needed to come up for air a few times, and my buddy then pops. So there is the young one now, with a load of CIM. She props back up to sitting position and I motion to her to swallow. I point my finger at my chin, run it down my throat. She grins, quickly shakes a 'no' answer to me, grabs a wiping towel, and spits.

Five minutes later, my buddy and I are both yawning. We pay our bills, and get the hell out before that older one starts sucking on me again.

[Ehunter]

Since I got an inbox from somebody saying they could not find the place others are probably out there as well.

If you're looking for Carre Blanc, matchup this screenshot from my iPhone side-by-side with your own Google maps session so you can zoom in and out. As you can see the screenshot was taken while I was in my hotel on soi 10 shown by the blue dot. The red dot is Carre Blanc. Photos of the front façade are all over the internet.

Also attached is a general map for the telephone bar which is much harder to find. I showed the Moto taxi the my iPhone's GPS screen and we got there without a hitch.

[Rocksoff]

I found the Pumpstation on Soi 13. [. ]

You walk out the back of the bar and back in next door, up the stairs and into a bar room that is no longer in use. It reminds me of a private prohibition bar area. There are multiple couches, and you have to be able to put up with multiple guys getting blown around you if they are busy. I was the only one. She put on a porn on the monitor before we got started. [. ]

Service was 800 and 2 drinks were 340Bhat.Is that the one nearest to 2nd Road? Either that or Golden Girl, they're next to each other. The upstairs sounds like what I remember, but it was straight up from the bar, not next door. Anyway about a year back there was a girl I liked, and I went there often, always got charged 650 baht. Except when she managed to get me to fuck her, then it was 1000 baht. She moved on and I haven't spotted another one I liked there.

[Rocksoff]

Also could be had at Babydolls GG (I've seen it done) , Windmill GG (I'm sure they do it, I've seen HJs given out) and probably X-Zone.I've also seen at Babydolls. X-Zone has / had a small banging room with a pole and a big tinted window looking out on the bar, I used it a couple of times with a cutie that I really liked but that was probably more than 2 years ago by now. Has anyone been using it more recently? I also used the room on the right just before the toilet, but that's turned into a storage dump. Seldom go to X-Zone any more.

[Ehunter]

Is that the one nearest to 2nd Road? Either that or Golden Girl, they're next to each other. The upstairs sounds like what I remember, but it was straight up from the bar, not next door. Anyway about a year back there was a girl I liked, and I went there often, always got charged 650 baht. Except when she managed to get me to fuck her, then it was 1000 baht. She moved on and I haven't spotted another one I liked there.Yes it is closer to 2nd road. I just came from there and there were 3 girls working. The hot yellow blond and two plain ones. I am sure you can manage to fuck the hot blond. Most likely she will probably texting her friends while your plowing her from behind.

[Dante2]

Thanks for the great info ehunter.

[Pointy Stick]

Yes it is closer to 2nd road. I just came from there and there were 3 girls working. The hot yellow blond and two plain ones. I am sure you can manage to fuck the hot blond. Most likely she will probably texting her friends while your plowing her from behind.Have you taken the hot blond before, what is her performance like? My regular hotel is in Soi Post Office and I've pass by there often. I've never been to Pump Station or GG as I don't think I could take the wolf whistles from the massage girls across the road so I usually hit up Bliss lounge or Soi 6.

[Popper1]

Had to leave Pattaya for about two weeks. Now back in town. Actually much to report, but for the now, will only report small bits.

Yesterday was walking around Boyz Town. Two blocks away from there to this sports bar. Never entered one of those before, so just for research purpose walked in. Had no idea what it was about, other than two gals at the entrance and two or three inside. There were about four TV screens showing sports including soccer. Urrrrrrr England football. Never of interest to me, so just ordered a cup of coffee. Gal looked OK. 30 years just started talking and charged me 40 baht for the coffee, more than reasonable. It was figure 5. PM. The place looked nice enough. Large. AC. Pool table. Soon she asked if I would buy her a drink. I gave her 40 baht instead which she was happy with and she told me the rules. Bar fines are 400 baht, and I recall she wanted 1400, but was unclear if it for ST or LT. Was not interested anyway, just curious. There were ST rooms also which I could have with her for 500 baht. I recall she wanted 1000 for the ST. I passed, since not interested in bar fines, and was not even interested in attempting a sneak out with her.

Last night had this gal who I thought really nice. Very curvy. Since I am king cheap charlie, my new favorite place to get gals is at those places which has those 40 baht 1/4 chicken (leg and thigh). Found a few of those off WS, and w / my 7/11 water, get a 1/4 chicken (or two) and that's dinner. Gals pass by, and I grab them, offering them some food perhaps. As good as approach as any. Last night ate near Secrets. Grabbed a gal. At hotel she was smoking just fine, and getting into it. Then she insisted on a condom. For a blow job? Hu? Anyway, she got upset and walked out. OK. Fine. Too bad cause she had a hell of a body. Then went out WS and quickly found another. Agreed to 700 baht, which is pretty much standard price for me, and she and I had a great time together. However, her bod not as good as the first one. Neither gal would agree for their picture taken. Too bad.

Tonight same technique. Grabbed the 40 baht chicken, this time near Soi BJ, and grabbed a gal. Very hot. Agreed to 800 baht and she came to my hotel. 22 years old. On the one hand, smokin' hot. However, looked way better with her clothes on. She was thin, and I mean like African malnourished thin. Makes me wonder what I'm getting myself in to. I took her picture, and she is actually thinner than the picture shows, especially from behind. However, super nice gal, to which I did not get her cell number and will not contact her again. Anyways, here is her pic. She just left.

Also today walked by that LeCarre place mentioned on this forum of recent, figure about 4:00. I saw no one there, and on the outside only drab curtains. Would never have known the place existed if not for this forum.

Night.



--Popper

[Mr Enternational]

There were ST rooms also which I could have with her for 500 baht.Those must be the most expensive short time rooms in town. I know long times rooms that don't cost that much. The highest I have heard before is 300 for Soi 6 as well as those dives on Walking Street.

[Nclpimp]

I've looked for reports on this place and haven't seen any. I see the you tube video and it looks awesome. There are two honeys 1 and honeys 2. Any info on them as far prices, reports, recomendations with girls? I will be there soon and doing my homework. If you prefer to pm me be my guest.

[Luvpuss]

I've looked for reports on this place and haven't seen any. I see the you tube video and it looks awesome. There are two honeys 1 and honeys 2. Any info on them as far prices, reports, recomendations with girls? I will be there soon and doing my homework. If you prefer to pm me be my guest.Google it. Plenty of info.

[Ehunter]

Have you taken the hot blond before, what is her performance like? My regular hotel is in Soi Post Office and I've pass by there often. I've never been to Pump Station or GG as I don't think I could take the wolf whistles from the massage girls across the road so I usually hit up Bliss lounge or Soi 6.Yes, I took the hot blonde. See my post from some days ago and you'll find my write up.

Can you post up your thoughts on Bliss lounge, quality of talent, etc.

[Mr Gogo]

I've looked for reports on this place and haven't seen any. I see the you tube video and it looks awesome. There are two honeys 1 and honeys 2. Any info on them as far prices, reports, recomendations with girls? I will be there soon and doing my homework. If you prefer to pm me be my guest.My advise would be to stay with the true professional fuckers if you want a guaranteed sexual experience. The street girls on beach road are hit and miss. The soapies and strip clubs where you can negotiate while the girls are rubbing your dick can help lead to a better experience. Some girls in Pattaya will play that shy shit if you don't open them up first. As mongers we want certain things a certain way. Don't let the girl's play their games on you.

[Old New Guy]

Looks decent enough although it's 1500 a night, not 800.

http://www.thaiways.org/insidegardenresort/rooms.htmlThese are the published rates not the actual ones. I come back after almost two years, negotiated 1,000. Full Korean management. Maintenance is down quite a bit.

[Pointy Stick]

Yes, I took the hot blonde. See my post from some days ago and you'll find my write up.

Can you post up your thoughts on Bliss lounge, quality of talent, etc.Try Pat form Bliss Lounge. Its a nice place, a little out of the way with no time limit. As long as the girls are not too fugly then I don't pay much attention to looks at all. I've posted before on the place and those reports are still relevant.

Its a pity that Patts hasn't got as many BJ bars as BKK but there is Soi 6 so it all balances out.

[Marcos]

they have a hot spinner there you should know about. She is the only one wearing black rimmed glasses, librarian look. She is completely unapproachable. Others commented the same however she is really fun to watch doing the lezzie shows. I have a feeling she is completely new to the system and is afraid to engage or open up. For example, Once I touched her knee with a little finger vibrator just to get her attention and she aggressively shoo-ed my hand away very unfriendly-like. Then 10 seconds later she coils up next to me, rests her head on my shoulder while sitting in cannon-ball position, seemingly wanting to use my body for warmth. Maybe she is looking for somebody she can get comfortable with, but on her own terms?Excellent report Ehunter, thank you.

What you have seen is nothing but a just another case of Common Working Girl Attitude Disorder, that is not only limited to Thailand, but normally found anywhere in the world. That derives from the woman truly believing that she is entitled to ANY type of behavior, any time, all the time, according to "her feelings" of the moment, rational or irrational (mostly the latter). Of course it is most often found in good looking WGs, but not only, I've seen it kept by by sweaty fat uglies, or even hardened desperate skanks, where it becomes irresistibly laughable. The normal symptoms are, e. G, your hand pushed away by disco ladies, deep ignoring in a go-go bar, stuck-up biatch conversation, etc, we all know! Remember that very rarely the attitude is given to you in particular, so never take it personally instead it is given to anyone until their funds runs low enough or alcohol is high enough, and some potential looser shows up at the right time, when their "feelings" make them inclined to take his money. Thai women give much importance to feelings, that includes eg. them preferring to squat on the floor eating smelly fish with their "friends" instead of being with a generous man. The fact that this type can suddenly sweep in attitudes, become over-friendly or most often just acting weird, should not confuse you. Leave the confusion confined to their little brains instead. There is no way they will learn that with Westerners, in 99% of the cases, it is enough to say "no". Ultimately it is about a total lack of respect toward about anybody but themselves, not a good thing in my book.

As men we must be happy about being able to see it since the beginning, as it is the clear signal for you to "take another lady". Surely, some hardheaded guy may like to take the wrong challenge, insist and may succeed in parting with his money, but that is the only sure result, and rarely worth it.

My recommendation, if suits "your feelings" (ahahah) , tell them some words to indicate that you know the bad kind they are, and how much bad karma and little luck they will get from being so. Watch their face go dark, and move on.

[Amex Spg]

I've looked for reports on this place and haven't seen any. I see the you tube video and it looks awesome. There are two honeys 1 and honeys 2. Any info on them as far prices, reports, recomendations with girls? I will be there soon and doing my homework. If you prefer to pm me be my guest.IMHO:

- The ranking of the 5 biggest body massage places is: Sabai Dee, Sabai Room, Rasputin, Honey 1, Honey 2. Honey 1 is on Soi 11 (aka Soi Honey, really close to Soi LK Metro) but the other 4 are around Soi 6 so within easy walking distance of each other to check-out in 1 or 2 hours (and if you don't find what you want, just hit Soi Sex).

- Prices start at B 2, 000 (I think up until last year it was B 1, 800 but inflation is hitting everything). Rasputin had 4 price tiers which seemed confusing and overpriced for the ladies at B 3, 000+. The other 4 places was B 2, 000 or B 2, 400 for the better ladies (distinguished by their different colored number badges &/or which area they're seated). It used to be "fish bowl" but they're going towards a no-glass partition.

- If you're Arab or a total noob they may quote you higher. Just ask the waiter how much and if one of the price tiers isn't B 2, 000, then tell him you'll go to the next place and he'll lower it / quote you the fair price.

- Standard is 90 minutes. 1 pop (or "1 shot" as they call it) and it's CBJ. My experience was about 30 min bathing. 15 min body massage. 40 min sex (including 5 seconds CBJ action) but of course the ladies prefer to finish the customer quickly so they can get the next customer.

- They open around 12:00/13:00 and close about 01:00. Of course the daytime crew of ladies is the B team and the next shift / batch of ladies comes at 18:00 (at least that's what the Sabai Room waiter told me). They get busy around 20:00 when the tipsy / drunk japs / Koreans / whoever are in the mood for early evening cleanliness / action so selection thins about by 21:00. I would guess 18:00. 20:00 is best time to go for best selection but I had Sabai Dee at 15:00 and lady number 32 (second choice is number 42) was hot and fun even at B 2, 400, but my buddy treated me. I'm a CC so I'd say a ST / LT from the Six is a better value. Still, a body massage is worth trying at least once for the experience and novelty.

[Mr Enternational]

- The ranking of the 5 biggest body massage places is: Sabai Dee, Sabai Room, Rasputin, Honey 1, Honey 2. Honey 1 is on Soi 11 (aka Soi Honey, really close to Soi LK Metro) but the other 4 are around Soi 6 so within easy walking distance of each other to check-out in 1 or 2 hours (and if you don't find what you want, just hit Soi Sex).

- Prices start at B 2, 000 (I think up until last year it was B 1, 800 but inflation is hitting everything)... It used to be "fish bowl" but they're going towards a no-glass partition.

- If you're Arab or a total noob they may quote you higher. Just ask the waiter how much and if one of the price tiers isn't B 2, 000, then tell him you'll go to the next place and he'll lower it / quote you the fair price.What happened is that all of them remodeled; hence, I assume, the price increase. IMHO Sabai Room used to be the worst one but now it is the best one and at 2000 baht it is still the cheapest. I took Mr Gogo and a few other wingmen a couple of weeks ago. I didn't partake, but they all did. I went up to the manager and told him that I wanted 100 baht for each of the guys I brought. He said it doesn't work like that. He said I am supposed to jack the price up and tell them the cost is 2500 baht before I bring them.

[Marcos]

In the DR that bike would not have lasted 3 minutes.

Here in Patts I can stand about anywhere looking at stuff on my iPhone. Doing the same in the DR and I would have to worry about a passer-byer snatching it out my hand and jumping on the back of his friends motor bike for a safe getaway.

To me. This place and BKK is loads safer than other places I have been.Spot on. One of the reasons I'm not going to Latin America anymore. And I speak fluent spanish and love the latina looks and personality. Maybe I should go back sometime, after all I've been robbed and mugged only three or four times.

[Marcos]

Always wondered about this sentence, when you win, you get to bone the Miss, otherwise you get hit?

Anyway, just to to say everything is hit and miss. I spent the night at Walk Street pub/ disco, that over the years I got to like it a bit better than other place. Because is less dispersed. I have always seen full 9 type girls there, always in company unfortunately. This night was a perfect example of the twisted fate that awaits every monger on any given night. I spot an attractive, well dressed lady dancing nice with her girlfriend, less attractive but not a dog. Just while I'm waiting for my drink (a decent Bacardi coke at 150 Bht) another man get come close to my first 1st choice. Since I'm a gentleman, I let him do his thing, but hint hint, the lady tell me "I no take man. Sure". That proved true, they were just two well-doing ladies out for a fun night, paying their own drinks etc. As my Isaan mistress says,"Thailand where have you gone!". So, I dance and joke a little with the 2nd choice, at the very end it becomes clear that she has no lust in arrears, and no need for money, and I'm relieved when her finally goes with her thick body and stockings. The other man got dumped even before I did.

Here come the other part of night, again with some male antagonism. I drive to the night market (beach street) and take a short stroll about 25 meters). See a nice creature dressed in white with a man sitting close to her. I ask him if he wants to take her, in return I get foul verbiage. Now, since I have a bit of bad temper too, I return some of it and more. Then I ask her if she wantd to come, she say yes so I pull her up and off we go. Tomorrow I will have to to go the temple to make merit for this episode. She tells me she was happy I took her, for the sex she is reasonable and accommodating, but not great. She asked 2K LT, but she 's Ok with 700 ST, or whatever.

Then tomorrow I'm done with Pattaya, back to the big scaring city, I think I will have to play all my best (ATM) cards there.

[Sarawak50]

I was in Pattaya over Chinese new year and the week after. At Beach road the quantity and quality of WGs reduced significantly. Now I see more of the very chabby type and 4-5/10 type. Where have all the nice girls gone? At MP on contrary you can still find nice girls who do everything from HJ to FS.

[Popper1]

Want to catch up on reports; much to catch up on. This actually happened yesterday. Walking on 2nd road just south of soi 6. Gal walking other direction. Caught her, and we started into each other. What a cutie-pie. She was walking to work, which is on Beach Road. She wanted 500 baht for ST. Only reason I post this is that I know that no one reading this can afford 500 baht to give to this gal. She 32, and knew a few ST hotels. I was just too busy, and after a few words got her phone, which I soon after tossed. However, just a great fun gal. Anyway, if interested, she probably around Beach Road, or Second Road, or somewhere Pattaya, or who knows where else. See attached picture. Regret tossing her phone number.

Later that night while hunting went to a Thai bar where I often pick up my birds. Those who know my posts know my feeling on bar fines: suckers only apply. Went to the Thai bar, where I've bought lady drinks for groups of gals while there (note this this is not an LD, but a lady drink where . . . Oh never mind!) One table had action, and this one gal said that she saw me there many times before, that I had one of her friends, so why didn't I get her? We spoke and I was playing w / her. Would rate her a solid 6 and why not a mercy phuck. She was getting drunk on the whiskey and then suddenly pissed off and screamed that she'd "kick my asss" if I didn't leave, and then hit me in the stomach, pretty hard too, for a girl.

Geeeez. I've been playing this now since about 2005, and perhaps earlier, and did nothing inappropriate. That said, there are two things you never do in Thailand. 1. Get illegal drugs. You could be set up, and it will cost thousands of US dollars to get out of that mess. Never mess with the Thailand legal system, not to mention get banned from entering the country again. 2. Get into a fight with a bar girl. Even if you're a thousand percent correct, makes no difference. I saw this one imbecile farang punch a bar girl, and soon five or six Thai males destroyed the guy. This the first time a bar gal ever got really pissed off at me and I said,"bye darling", exit stage left.

My game from therein went to crap. Mood changed from having fun to disaster. Could not smile upon approach. Could not play them correctly. 100 percent all rejections. It was just not fun. Things not going my way. Getting worse. Heading home. After all, had a gal each and every night while here, time for a night off, I guess. That said, how could I let this fuggaly bar girl get to me. Reminded me of going to pickup bars back in the States and getting blown out. By now I should be able to control my state. That I could not really ate into me.

Went home and saw gal who I had few nights ago. Grabbed her."Let's go, I love you 700 baht." She: "No. 1000 baht." "Last time gave you 700. She: "But you last too long, so I want 1000." Was seriously not in a mood for this bar girl garbage. Left her standing there and 'bout to enter my hotel. Just outside was a gal. She looked in her mid-30s and like the average looking overweight massage gals."Hi. You want come with me?" She: "OK 500 baht." She was fat. Rating not higher than a five. And who cares. Big tits. Tits rule.

In hotel room she gave me a Thai massage, and damn she was strong. Had to do her doggie since did not want to look at her face. Buttt high in the air, just banged the crap out of her. Now, I have to commend Little Popper for doing such a great job of banging her, since let me tell you, she anything but pretty. However, big tits and massive, and I do mean massive assssss. Just kept banging her like tomorrow would never cum. And she took it good, as I slapped her asssss around. Her butttt big was like the size of a zip-code. Gave her a 200 be tip for being such a great sport about it, as she limped out the door.

OK, going to try to grab a movie tonight.



--Popper

[Marcos]

Nice personal report Popper1. Yes there are times when things don't want to flow right, one should not that personally, turns of luck make you stronger.

I hear what you say about never getting into fights with Thais in Thailand. This early morning, I had a little incident with the Beach Street girl that I wrote about in my latest posting, when she wanted to be paid for sleeping. I handled it "my firm way" and it ended OK with my money safe, however I'll make sure I'll never put myself in the same situation again.

[HenryV]

What is the name of the bar?

Thank you.

Later that night while hunting went to a Thai bar where I often pick up my birds.

[Sammon]

She looked in her mid-30s and like the average looking overweight massage gals."Hi. You want come with me?" She: "OK 500 baht." She was fat. Rating not higher than a five. And who cares. Big tits. Tits rule.

In hotel room she gave me a Thai massage, and damn she was strong. Had to do her doggie since did not want to look at her face. Buttt high in the air, just banged the crap out of her. Now, I have to commend Little Popper for doing such a great job of banging her, since let me tell you, she anything but pretty. However, big tits and massive, and I do mean massive assssss. Just kept banging her like tomorrow would never cum. And she took it good, as I slapped her asssss around. Her butttt big was like the size of a zip-code. Gave her a 200 be tip for being such a great sport about it, as she limped out the door.

-PopperReminds me of a SW on bangla road in Phuket. Sweet model face but rest is size of Texas. Was tired of fucking spinners with attitudes so took her for 700 baht ST. Took her to a disco club where we danced. Most patrons myst have felt sorry for me dancing with a whale in the land of trim pussies. Anyway she was extremely GFE and confided with me that she never had a customer for 6 months. True or not she was extremely horny and wanted me to fuck her all night. I am sure fellow members know how difficult it is to fuck a whale let alone get her satisfied. After I came three times she suggested me to use my hand to make her cum. Still it took a long time. Later she thanked me.

In the morning she said she just want only 500 baht but I gave her agreed 700 baht although she stayed all night. She goes out and after about half hour comes back with nice Thai food. Anyway I had nothing better to do so she stayed whole day till my evening flight BKK to meet my gorgeous slim thai gf.

Her good points are clean pleasant smelling pussy and mouth, kissable face and eager to please. Toobad nobody told her what weight watcher program will do to her!

Just wanted to see what Phuket was like and promised myself never to go there alone again.

[Dante2]

I was in Pattaya over Chinese new year and the week after. At Beach road the quantity and quality of WGs reduced significantly. Now I see more of the very chabby type and 4-5/10 type. Where have all the nice girls gone? At MP on contrary you can still find nice girls who do everything from HJ to FS.My experiences with beach road have been it sucks in the day might see a rare 6 or even a rarer 7 but when you approach they know they are the hottest out there so don't want beach road prices, and the 2 I talked to that were like that had awful attitudes so you knew it would be a rushed session.

At night though I've seen a lot more 6's and 7's that seem like more casual / fun types.

[Ehunter]

well, after 16 days things are winding down.

i ran into a bit of bad luck my last night in pattaya. i had a threesome with two of the carre blank girls. i guess you could say we worked each other over pretty good. i decided i wanted to bang the girl named 'a' and the hard working older girl came along for the ride. that 'a' girl is the one of the more erotic fuks i have had on this trip and i would say one of the more memorable in recent memory. i think it was fair to say that i went into it thinking i was gong to fuk her but it turned out to be the other way around. she fuked me. what i did not realize was, when a change of condoms was in order when going between girls, the older one should have rolled off the condom i had on. instead, she tried to slip her finger between the condom and my penis to peel it off. result was her fingernail took a small diviot of skin away from the base of my member. i never realized it until the following day. it never hurt, and i discovered it when i went down there to clean up a little growth with a razor. i really don't think i did the damage myself with the razor.

anyway, that concludes my trip of this beachside ho-mmunity. i needed to get back to bkk and decompress anyway before leaving. further activities will continue over on the bkk reports threads.

[Luvpuss]

well, after 16 days things are winding down.

i ran into a bit of bad luck my last night in pattaya. i had a threesome with two of the carre blank girls. i guess you could say we worked each other over pretty good. i decided i wanted to bang the girl named 'a' and the hard working older girl came along for the ride. that 'a' girl is the one of the more erotic fuks i have had on this trip and i would say one of the more memorable in recent memory. i think it was fair to say that i went into it thinking i was gong to fuk her but it turned out to be the other way around. she fuked me. what i did not realize was, when a change of condoms was in order when going between girls, the older one should have rolled off the condom i had on. instead, she tried to slip her finger between the condom and my penis to peel it off. result was her fingernail took a small diviot of skin away from the base of my member. i never realized it until the following day. it never hurt, and i discovered it when i went down there to clean up a little growth with a razor. i really don't think i did the damage myself with the razor.

anyway, that concludes my trip of this beachside ho-mmunity. i needed to get back to bkk and decompress anyway before leaving. further activities will continue over on the bkk reports threads.so much for safe sex.

[Luvpuss]

I was in Pattaya over Chinese new year and the week after. At Beach road the quantity and quality of WGs reduced significantly. Now I see more of the very chabby type and 4-5/10 type. Where have all the nice girls gone? At MP on contrary you can still find nice girls who do everything from HJ to FS.They are just different during Chinese New year. I was there last year during it. What a cluster fuck, never again.

I think they leave because of all the tourists with families showing up. In a few weeks and I bet things will be back to normal.

[Dante2]

Appreciate the great reports ehunter enjoy the rest of your trip.

[Bro2012]

Further activities will continue over on the BKK reports threads.Phew. Best comment you've made (LOL).

[Opebo]

at beach road the quantity and quality of wgs reduced significantly. now i see more of the very chabby type and 4-5/10 type. where have all the nice girls gone?they've all been run off by the constant police crackdowns. i stayed in pattaya for a week recently and only got laid a few times, and very poorly even those times. not fun. girls all mentioned heavy police roundups, several times per evening / night, and lots of bribes and drug checks with resulting jail-time or heavy bribes. also some girls mentioned attempts are constantly made to enlist them in various kind of entrapment schemes and informant roles. so, be careful out there. as always the prettiest girls are the first to flee police crackdown (they fear getting an extensive rap-sheet and presumably being raped, not to mention the police generally steal their phones, etc.) , and the oldest and ugliest the last to give in (nowhere else to go, already have a rap-sheet, police less interested in them, etc).

nowadays, pty is mostly all about the big droves of russians and other group-tour types shuffling about, and a remaining expensive but low-quality sex scene under slow and steady pressure. perhaps the most evocative of the new pattaya is the crowding of the old p. s. guesthouse. there's a new obnoxious and disgusting middle eastern restaurant next to it that claims all the parking along the street gangster style, not unlike the offensive microbrewery place across the street. never any customers at this middle-east place, of course, but you can see the writing on the wall for p. s. and the few freelancers who still manage to ply their trade along the beach there.

[HenryV]

Looked for the report you mentioned, could not find it.

Can you please direct me to it, would like to read it.

Thank you.


Nice personal report Popper1. Yes there are times when things don't want to flow right, one should not that personally, turns of luck make you stronger.

I hear what you say about never getting into fights with Thais in Thailand. This early morning, I had a little incident with the Beach Street girl that I wrote about in my latest posting, when she wanted to be paid for sleeping. I handled it "my firm way" and it ended OK with my money safe, however I'll make sure I'll never put myself in the same situation again.

[Dante2]

Harold is your sole reason for coming to this board to tell others how wrong or stupid they are?

[Kiwi352]

Watch out for a girl who works the beer bars with the boxing ring just before walking street. She has "anny" tattooed on her arm. I dropped some weed in the short time room upstairs, she then tried to extort me for a few thousand baht. Then she opened door and screamed for security, two thai guys turn up, needless to say, I wasnt having a bar of it, so walked over her and them, and got the hell out of dodge. My own fault for carrying drugs, but hey, I'm weak haha, this is all.

[Kiwi352]

Spent a few days with a lovely girl from the "frog" bar, in the first beer bar complex as you enter walking street, across from the new ago go bar, sugar I think it was called. Lovely girl in there, calls herself M. She only cost me 2000bht for 3 days, only charged me the first night, think she was happy to just hang out with me, and just paid her bar fines, very nice girl, kinda fiesty, but I like that. Here's her pic I got off her facebook.

[Mr Enternational]

Does anyone have the scoop on Apcalis? I have been pushing Kamagra off on my friends for the longest and wanted to make a switch. My usual Kamagra supply line has even dried up. It took me the longest but I finally found someone with Apcalis, but the price was 700 baht / 4 servings. I didn't expect it to be that much. Authentic Cialis was 2200 baht / 4 servings. The new Thai version of Viagra, Sidegra, was 180 baht / 4 servings, although I found it at another place 2 doors down for 100. Neither place had Kamagra either. The lady said that the police have cracked down on the generic imports since Thailand has their own version now.

[Dr BJ]

Spent a few days with a lovely girl from the "frog" bar, in the first beer bar complex as you enter walking street, across from the new ago go bar, sugar I think it was called. Lovely girl in there, calls herself M. She only cost me 2000bht for 3 days, only charged me the first night, think she was happy to just hang out with me, and just paid her bar fines, very nice girl, kinda fiesty, but I like that. Here's her pic I got off her facebook.Seems you got a nice result there. A good lady at a very good price. Incidentally the last time I was in Pattaya was mid December and I saw a very slim girl dancing in the same bar (frog) did you notice if she is still there. Never did get round to asking about BF'ing her but may do the next time I am down there.

Regards,

BJ

[Dr BJ]

Does anyone have the scoop on Apcalis? I have been pushing Kamagra off on my friends for the longest and wanted to make a switch. My usual Kamagra supply line has even dried up. It took me the longest but I finally found someone with Apcalis, but the price was 700 baht / 4 servings. I didn't expect it to be that much. Authentic Cialis was 2200 baht / 4 servings. The new Thai version of Viagra, Sidegra, was 180 baht / 4 servings, although I found it at another place 2 doors down for 100. Neither place had Kamagra either. The lady said that the police have cracked down on the generic imports since Thailand has their own version now.I found this on a different forum.

Now that lbm123 has mentioned "Sidegra" (sometimes spelt,"Silegra") I feel it's time to put this thread to rest and clear up any confusion that might have been caused by a few other misspellings about the legalities of possession, usage and distribution of the various Erectile Disfunction medications available here in LOS and any possible repercussions.

FACT:

Viagra ("Sildenafil Citrate" manufactured by Phizer) ,

Cialis ("Tadalafil" manufactured by Eli Lilley) and.

Levitra ("Vardenafil hydrochloride" manufactired by Bayer Bayer)

ARE ALL LICENSED by FDA to be legally distributed / sold in LOS by Approved Hospitals, Clinics and Pharmacies. That is why you will often notice overhead signs or in windows as you wander through the streets. That is not to say.

That you won't be able to also purchase some of the non-licensed products "under the counter" as well.

FACT:

Kamagra (Generic Sildenafil Citrate manufactured in India)

Apcalis (Generic Tadalafil also manufactured in India)

ARE NOT Legal for Distribution or sale in LOS although they are widely availablein many of the establishments mentioned above. Do not be misguided iinto thinking all Indian versions are copies and don't work because they do.

They are just cheaper. You should also be aware that there are counterfeit copies available which even come in what appears to be the original boxes and tubs. You ARE safe buying an individually sealed bubble-pop pack of.

Tablets or capsules.

FICTION:

Various urban myths have sprung up over the years including a few April Fools jokes issued by some 'friends' of ours on a certain other Forum.

LAWFUL:

Thai Law will permit you to bring 30 Days worth of most medications for peronal consumption provided you have a valid letter from your GP. NB This does not include any form of Class 1 Narcotics or synthetic opioid like Methadone and Class 2 drugs including any form of marijuana for whatever reason. You can probably sneak in a month's supply+ of something like Viagra but filling up a suitcase with hundreds of boxes will not go down well with customs Officers when you claim just to be a horny Monger! Also, proof of the fact that you may be a VIP Member of barladies. Com will not work either.

THE SOLUTION:

Sidegra (the Thai Generic tablet) is becoming more and more available everywhere. IT WORKS with all the familiar effects and various side effects associated with the others. Find an ED tablet, gel or capsule that works best for your body and stick with it.

At the end of the day, they are all the SAME SAME BUT DIFFERENT! :mfr_closed1:

Be seeing you.

Hope it is of some use.

Regards.

BJ

[Betong]

Just in case you show up early on Soi 6 and find your favorite bar still closed: the cops are doing one of their periodic harassment efforts, telling the bars they can't open till 6 pm. The first couple days, earlier this week, most didn't. Now they're gradually reopening at the usual time in the early afternoon. The girls today were telling me that it takes a daily payment of B7500 (B15, 000 for the big ones) to open early so it's a nice little income earner for the cops. Usually these things wind down within a few days but with that kind of profit, who knows this time.

[Dante2]

Watch out for a girl who works the beer bars with the boxing ring just before walking street. She has "anny" tattooed on her arm. I dropped some weed in the short time room upstairs, she then tried to extort me for a few thousand baht. Then she opened door and screamed for security, two thai guys turn up, needless to say, I wasnt having a bar of it, so walked over her and them, and got the hell out of dodge. My own fault for carrying drugs, but hey, I'm weak haha, this is all.Just curios where did you get the weed?

(no I'm not going to buy any)

(no really, I'm not)

[FreebieFan]

Now, similar to most of us males here, we don't intimately know the pain and body changes that occur with childbirth but read this, she gave birth on a motorbike. http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2013/03/14/clueless-mom-gives-birth-riding-on-motorbike/

[Marcos]

Now, similar to most of us males here, we don't intimately know the pain and body changes that occur with childbirth but read this, she gave birth on a motorbike.

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2013/03/14/clueless-mom-gives-birth-riding-on-motorbike/Please don't hate me for posting too frequently. I read two things in this weird piece of news. First, that the baby had born already, was being carried by her criminal mother looking for a place where to dispose of it, but then, voluntarily or not, was dropped straight from the motorbike.

And second, that apparently when is about unexpected birth, Thais make an exception to their rule to not help people in distress or having suffered an accident. Compare to the Bangkok cop that helped to life to some dozen babies already.

On this topic, the other night driving on Suk. I saw how they handle accidents, police just parked a car to shield the guy on the ground from traffic, he was still half down, like trying to come back to his senses. I seemed to me that he had a spineboard put on him, although I'm not totally sure. However everybody was standing far away and he was left alone to endure his pain and misery before the ambulance arrived. I did not stopped because professional help was on his way already, but if that wasn't the case I would have and gave first help, then they can sue my sorry ass from the other side of the world.

[Popper1]

On the whole Vit V / Vit C controversy, personally at times use Vit C. Used Vit V, and IMO it sucks. Lasts like an hour, and after done, nothing. Get a weekend out of Vit C tablet. Just take half now and half later. Picked up my Vit C generics back in AC, Phil and for CHEAP. And I mean CHEAAAPPPPP. Suspect I paid a fourth of what it goes for here in Pattaya.

YMMV.

Here in Pattaya friend of mine recommended Storect. It's this natural herbal product. Am pretty skeptical of these things, but I believe it worked and pretty well. Paid 600 for four tablets. Will try it again soon. Except for about a ten day break, have had a gal or two every day now for like two months. Getting bit worn.

Did the LeCarre few days ago. Wow.

Woke up this morning, and sick. Knew it was the AC was blowing dirty air, and I am really sensitive to that. I told them to swap out the filter, and I would pay for it. The same thing happened back the States, and the hotel pretty much laughed at me, at that was over $60 / night. My hotel at 700 baht said no problem and they paid for it themselves. Suspect it not been changed in ten years. Fixed my problem.

Last evening found one gal with a group of friends near entrance of Walking Street. She was absolutely hot. 23 years. Just visiting from who knows where. As always my approach is: "You come with me?","How much you want." Note that most gals say 1000 for ST. This really bothers me, not only because I am king cheap charlie, but only a few years ago 500 baht was the norm for ST. I always counter with "I love you 700 baht." and am willing to negotiate up to 800 baht. Those of you paying 1000 for ST are not helping.

She frigging gorgeous, but no BJ and complained throughout. Lots of gals I've had refuse to give BJs w/out a condom. New phenomenon? That's the thing. While I like normal gals, too often they are just lacking in experience necessary. Still, a great ride, and finally after she came I jokingly demanded 500 baht.

Frick, the Russian gals are stunners. Not all of them, but a lot of them are absolutely gorgeous. Are Russians always that pretty, even in their own country? Last time back in the States, gals a disaster. Friend of mine married gal, and after she gave birth her weight doubled. Tripled. What happened to my country anyway? Wasn't America a cool place at one time? Tell you, I am tempted to learn Russian and head North, cause even average Russian would rate an eight back in the States. And those who are hot, model quality easily, and lots of them are frigging sizzling. Guess the solution is more USA McDonald's, HFCS, pink slime, and GM crops.

Tonight walking 2nd road. Passed Billion, Pump sta, and Golden Gals. Man, those gals looked skanky. Not that I have anything against skanky women mind you, but they really do need better talent. Walking 2nd and found this gal who lives and works at some bar beer in Jontien. As always,"You want short or long time?" "Short time." "How much you want?" "1000 baht." "I love you 700 baht." "OK." She 23, has a kid. Thin. Real thin. Can't complain, but the best I've had in the sack thus far are a few of my regulars, and Soi 6. Here is her picture as she entered the shower.



--Popper

[Mr Enternational]

Woke up this morning, and sick. Knew it was the AC was blowing dirty air, and I am really sensitive to that. I told them to swap out the filter, and I would pay for it. The same thing happened back the States, and the hotel pretty much laughed at me, at that was over $60 / night. My hotel at 700 baht said no problem and they paid for it themselves. Suspect it not been changed in ten years. Fixed my problem.Filters here are very expensive. Like 500 baht versus $2 in the USA. I bought an air cleaner / ionizer for 4500 baht the other day. Works wonders.


Last evening found one gal with a group of friends near entrance of Walking Street. She was absolutely hot. 23 years. Just visiting from who knows where. As always my approach is: "You come with me?","How much you want." Note that most gals say 1000 for ST. This really bothers me, not only because I am king cheap charlie, but only a few years ago 500 baht was the norm for ST. I always counter with "I love you 700 baht." and am willing to negotiate up to 800 baht. Those of you paying 1000 for ST are not helping.You should know by now that you can't tell these guys anything.


Frick, the Russian gals are stunners. Not all of them, but a lot of them are absolutely gorgeous. Are Russians always that pretty, even in their own country? Last time back in the States, gals a disaster. Friend of mine married gal, and after she gave birth her weight doubled. Tripled.Russian, Mexican, Indian under 30: stunner. 30-35: transition. 35+: Ewwwww!

[Loxfun]

Hi guys,

Just a quick thank you to Amex spg. He was kind enough to take a novice to the Pattaya scene on a tour last night and it was very enjoyable have to say. Showed me round, pointed out the various clubs, showed me a few of them and of course the contents. He has given detailed reports in the past and some of you guys knocked him. All I'm saying is he is a good guy who will help out if he can.

[Dr BJ]

i just opened an email telling me [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s in lk metro closed down yesterday, saturday march 17. is there anyone in pattaya who can shed some light on this please?

regards,

bj

[Marcos]

Filters here are very expensive. Like 500 baht versus $2 in the USA. I bought an air cleaner / ionizer for 4500 baht the other day. Works wonders.Split type A / C filter never need replacement, are made of plastic that you can just wash under the shower. I do that everytime I can remember about. For an extra effect put some drops of aroma oil on it.

[LittleBigMan]

Split type A / C filter never need replacement, are made of plastic that you can just wash under the shower. I do that everytime I can remember about. For an extra effect put some drops of aroma oil on it.This is correct!

Unless your'e staying in a hotel with central aircon system usually in the high end a room for 700 baht most likely have the ones mounted on the wall near the ceiling with a remote control. These system as noted have the black plastic ones that can be removed and cleaned yourself very easy.

Take a end table or chair when the unit is off and flip open the cover and you will usually see a set of plaster filters on each side. Look at the way it is slided in before removing. Just ply it loose and slip it out and rinse them off and pad them dry. Look at the grill above the unit and if it is full of dust use a wet cloth or damp paper towel and gently wipe across the top of the unit. Do not tap or blow into the unit this might cause dust to fall into the unit drain tube when this happens once the unit is turn on the dust lodged in the tube will cause the unit to freeze up and once that happens it will start to drip water.

For those renting long term most and pay for water and electrical these units aren't cleaned often since when they are full of dust causes the units to labor and people have a habit of turning down the temp to get the room cooler this drives up your cost unit. I had a friend stay a place and he had the unit at 18 C, and the room wasn't that cool. His monthly bill was over a 1, 000 baht, I climbed up remove the screen washed them off put them back in and his bill went down by a bunch.

If you are getting sick or waking up with a sore throat. This is usually due to the location of the unit being directly blowing over the bed or right at your face. If this is the case just take you hand if you are tall or a stick and push the flap up slightly so it blows higher this usually take care of the problem.

LBM

[Mr Enternational]

For those renting long term most and pay for water and electrical these units aren't cleaned often since when they are full of dust causes the units to labor and people have a habit of turning down the temp to get the room cooler this drives up your cost unit. I had a friend stay a place and he had the unit at 18 C, and the room wasn't that cool. His monthly bill was over a 1, 000 baht, I climbed up remove the screen washed them off put them back in and his bill went down by a bunch.Same thing happened to me when I got back last month. When I do Spring cleaning I take the things out and rinse them off. But I had not even been here in a couple of months so I thought they should have been fine. Chicks were coming in saying how hot it was. I thought it was me making them that way since I am such a stud. Finally I noticed that I would turn mine down to 18, but the thermostat would never go under 24. So I told the guy who manages the building. He came in while I was gone. Later he told me that he cleaned the filters and that should do it. It worked like a charm. I think my bill last month was about 1700 and I didn't even get the benefit of the air being cool until half way through the month.

[Luvpuss]

http://tuktukpatrol.com/t1/2012/11/02/big-thai-tits-rattle/

Kam from tuk tuk porn.

I stumbled across this. I met this girl last time in Pattaya. She is on Thailove links.

When I met her she made it clear it was p4p. Her service same as the video shows.

[Luvpuss]

i just opened an email telling me [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s in lk metro closed down yesterday, saturday march 17. is there anyone in pattaya who can shed some light on this please?

regards,

bj

last time in pattaya i was there about a week and for some reason they closed a few days a week.

[Kiwi352]

Seems you got a nice result there. A good lady at a very good price. Incidentally the last time I was in Pattaya was mid December and I saw a very slim girl dancing in the same bar (frog) did you notice if she is still there. Never did get round to asking about BF'ing her but may do the next time I am down there.

Regards,

BJWas she short? There was a really nice one dancing there, at the moment her hairs dyed blonde, about 5ft 4. Her names gypsy, my mate was trying to get her, but she already had been barfined.

[Kiwi352]

Just curios where did you get the weed?

(no I'm not going to buy any)

(no really, I'm not) Hahaha just along that beach Road, usually any groups of natives will help you out, be prepared to pay farng prices though, I'm a slick talker so could get them down to about 200baht, but I've seen other guys pay 1000+. Plus the weed is pretty crappy, and the girls around soi 6 can get you a gram of ice for 2000

[Mngweco]

last time in pattaya i was there about a week and for some reason they closed a few days a week.[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is sold out

[LittleBigMan]

Depending on the location of where your apartment is located determines what is being charged per unit to the owners. Like every owner they tack on their charges to you. Out where I am D. S. Local area I pay 5 baht a unit then I charge the tenant 10 baht. Like you I'm Mr. Clean but not clean enough to get upset over a girl putting her dirty feet on my satin sheets LOL, but if you look around you furniture there is always dust on table top etc. Even when you just clean a few days ago. I too noticed dust in my A / C although I seldom use it and when I do it is set at 27 and that is cold to me. My fan I cleaned once every 2 weeks and you should see have dirty that is?

Keep cool? LBM

[LittleBigMan]

[CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is sold outthe long term lease on [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) has run out and wasn't renewed, it is rumor the owner took a higher bid from someone that is planning to open another gogo bar at the location most likely using agency girls which of course they will be charging higher prices for drinks and bf, if they will go with you and if they do you most likely will be ask to pay 4-5 baht?

another rumor is [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is looking for another location on the main strip soi baukhao?

lbm

[Luvpuss]

the long term lease on [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) has run out and wasn't renewed, it is rumor the owner took a higher bid from someone that is planning to open another gogo bar at the location most likely using agency girls which of course they will be charging higher prices for drinks and bf, if they will go with you and if they do you most likely will be ask to pay 4-5 baht?

another rumor is [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) is looking for another location on the main strip soi baukhao?

lbmthanks for the update.

i never really liked that [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s much.

[PattsBoy17]

http://tuktukpatrol.com/t1/2012/11/02/big-thai-tits-rattle/

Kam from tuk tuk porn.

I stumbled across this. I met this girl last time in Pattaya. She is on Thailove links.

When I met her she made it clear it was p4p. Her service same as the video shows.Hi luvpuss,

I am very interested in Kam. You say she is on thaiLL. Do you know under what name as I can't find her there.

Alternatively, any idea where in Patts she can be found.

I will be in Patts in three weeks and would love to see her.

Any info will be appreciated.

Cheers

[Pekkakoo]

I was offered a condo very close to Bangkok Pattaya hospital. When looking at the map it seems to be in the north, I have never seen that hospital but I think it is close to the North Pattaya road. Close to the bus station? Price was 8000 baht per month. What do you think about the location? Is it too far from the action? Is it easy to move along the north road to the beach and central Pattaya? I was planning to stay 2-4 weeks only but still any hotel would become a lot more expensive I think.

[Luvpuss]

I was offered a condo very close to Bangkok Pattaya hospital. When looking at the map it seems to be in the north, I have never seen that hospital but I think it is close to the North Pattaya road. Close to the bus station? Price was 8000 baht per month. What do you think about the location? Is it too far from the action? Is it easy to move along the north road to the beach and central Pattaya? I was planning to stay 2-4 weeks only but still any hotel would become a lot more expensive I think.It is not that far. You can walk, but Baht bus will come by down the street to BR and walking street for 10 B.

[Dante2]

Hahaha just along that beach Road, usually any groups of natives will help you out, be prepared to pay farng prices though, I'm a slick talker so could get them down to about 200baht, but I've seen other guys pay 1000+. Plus the weed is pretty crappy, and the girls around soi 6 can get you a gram of ice for 2000Not sure if you have huge balls or are insane or both but wow man, beach road is the most dangerous area in the city for scams and you bought from those guys?

Worth basically risking your life for some ditch weed?

[LittleBigMan]

I was offered a condo very close to Bangkok Pattaya hospital. When looking at the map it seems to be in the north, I have never seen that hospital but I think it is close to the North Pattaya road. Close to the bus station? Price was 8000 baht per month. What do you think about the location? Is it too far from the action? Is it easy to move along the north road to the beach and central Pattaya? I was planning to stay 2-4 weeks only but still any hotel would become a lot more expensive I think.Unless you need to be close to the hospital and like local action near the Esso gas station what I consider to be the Thai Soi 6, Non Thais need not venture unless someone takes you and even then not worth the time or money. This Condo most likely is the Lumpini Park development?

Couldn't be a worse location unless you like to do lots of walking and transfering from one baht bus to another. And if you take the motorbike taxi to the the areas you noted would outweigh the savings? And if you have to be that far away because of your budget you might want to reconsider? This location most likely will ruin your whole trip?

LBM

[Luvpuss]

Unless you need to be close to the hospital and like local action near the Esso gas station what I consider to be the Thai Soi 6, Non Thais need not venture unless someone takes you and even then not worth the time or money. This Condo most likely is the Lumpini Park development?

Couldn't be a worse location unless you like to do lots of walking and transfering from one baht bus to another. And if you take the motorbike taxi to the the areas you noted would outweigh the savings? And if you have to be that far away because of your budget you might want to reconsider? This location most likely will ruin your whole trip?

LBMMy bad on this?

Sorry, I was thinking Pattaya Memorial. Bangkok Pattaya is different and you are right. Not a good loc.

[Himeros]

Hi,

I have only posted on here a handful of times so please bear with me. Been coming to Thailand for the past 5 years and usually stick to massage places and go-go's. On the BKK thread there is loads of chatter about Doc bjs. Never tried a BJ place but I need to see what all the fuss is about. The reason I m posting this here is that I will be going to Pattaya for a few days to visit a mate and would like to know where the BJ bars in Pattaya are in case I enjoy my experience in Bangkok. I read Lolitta closed down on here and some other guy sent a post about carre blank. Could anyone advise of other "decent" places for a blowjob in Pattaya. Appreciation for any replies.

H

[Mr Enternational]

I was bar / agogo hopping with Amex last night and I was getting to know the mamasan in one of the more well known ones. In the midst of raunchy shit happening all around me I decided to ask her how much they have to give the police every month. She said that she did not know because the manager was responsible for counting it out. Her job is to take it outside when they come. She said that they come 6 times / month.

[Pekkakoo]

Unless you need to be close to the hospital and like local action near the Esso gas station what I consider to be the Thai Soi 6, Non Thais need not venture unless someone takes you and even then not worth the time or money. This Condo most likely is the Lumpini Park development?

Couldn't be a worse location unless you like to do lots of walking and transfering from one baht bus to another. And if you take the motorbike taxi to the the areas you noted would outweigh the savings? And if you have to be that far away because of your budget you might want to reconsider? This location most likely will ruin your whole trip?

LBMOK, thanks for the info, the condo might not be worth it for living just 2-3 weeks. Just looking at the map it did not seem so far away but in reality it would be a couple of kilometers I think. Changing baht buses is a lot of trouble. Just had a feeling that always staying close to central Pattaya might get boring and a change could be needed.

Of course the local soi 6 might be interesting.

[LittleBigMan]

OK, thanks for the info, the condo might not be worth it for living just 2-3 weeks. Just looking at the map it did not seem so far away but in reality it would be a couple of kilometers I think. Changing baht buses is a lot of trouble. Just had a feeling that always staying close to central Pattaya might get boring and a change could be needed.

Of course the local soi 6 might be interesting.The location is more than a couple of Kilometers and would be more suitable with someone with a motorbike. The Thai Soi 6, isn't a location for non Thais although I have seen a few white guys there. The place opens around 6pm and is run by the Mafia, there is seldom any customers except on Fri-Sat when the boys are out in droves in the area. The service for non-thais and the price make it more worth while to just go to the Soi 6 in town. A few years back I venture but stop because it was more miss than hit. Even for myself I didn't feel comfortable being the only one drinking felt I couldn't leave my drink because I might wait up hours later with my pants and wallet gone?

On the otherside of Soi 6, where the Bangkok Bank is located go down that road there are a bunch of service apartment that you might be able to get something at your price range.

LBM

[Mngweco]

Hi,

I have only posted on here a handful of times so please bear with me. Been coming to Thailand for the past 5 years and usually stick to massage places and go-go's. On the BKK thread there is loads of chatter about Doc bjs. Never tried a BJ place but I need to see what all the fuss is about. The reason I m posting this here is that I will be going to Pattaya for a few days to visit a mate and would like to know where the BJ bars in Pattaya are in case I enjoy my experience in Bangkok. I read Lolitta closed down on here and some other guy sent a post about carre blank. Could anyone advise of other "decent" places for a blowjob in Pattaya. Appreciation for any replies.

HPlease check on Bliss Lounge 3d Road. 700 Bht for BJ CIM. I recommend Ann who can deep throat. Best BJ in Pattaya!

[HenryV]

Could you be a little more specific on the location, e. G, any landmarks nearby.

Thank you.


Please check on Bliss Lounge 3d Road. 700 Bht for BJ CIM. I recommend Ann who can deep throat. Best BJ in Pattaya!

[Butzelmann]

Could you be a little more specific on the location, e. G, any landmarks nearby.

Thank you.Http://theblisslounge.com/?page_id=22

[LittleBigMan]

could you be a little more specific on the location, e. g, any landmarks nearby.

thank you.if you know the area where [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) was? go to the corner of soi diana and soi buakhao, turn left and walk down to the corner where oasis go go is located on the corner? at the corner of the soi heading up to 3 road. the soi splits like a wishbone. take the soi on the left and walk up to 3rd road, there is a big empty lot on the right at the corner if you look across 3rd road you should see bliss?

good luck, lbm

[Luvpuss]

Could you be a little more specific on the location, e. G, any landmarks nearby.

Thank you.You heard of google? Plenty of maps on location.

[Crazy4Thai]

You heard of google? Plenty of maps on location.I was watching for the answer to Henry's question because I tried to find Bliss Lounge last time in Patts. I struck out. I just tried your helpful tip and struck out again. I got 4 results on google maps but none of them were for Bliss Lounge. Perhaps it's just my search technique, can you show us the way?

[Himeros]

Cheers for the heads up about Bliss and the directions. I heard about a place called the pump station, anyone got any info about this place or any others in Patts?

H

[Amex Spg]

map.
http://www.pattayainfos.com/bar/bliss-lounge/attachment/bliss-lounge-plan/

http://www.poon-world.com/venueview.phtml?city=pattaya&vurl=bliss_lounge

http://www.pattayainfos.com/bar/bliss-lounge/

directions.

- walk east on soi chayaipoon (or soi lengkee) (on google map at the above link soi chayaipoon = "chaloem phrakat 25" and lengkee = "10 na kleua 10")

- at third road, make a left and walk about 400 meters.

- on the east side (ie right side as you're walking) of third road there is a 7-11 and next to it is bliss. several ladies should be sitting outside on benches in front of bliss, unless they're really busy.

if you don't know soi chayaipoon / lengkee.

- once you're at soi lk metro / soi diana go to the club / oasis gg on soi buakhao.

- as you're facing that gg, the street on the left side is soi chayaipoon (canterbury tales bookstore / guesthouse is located on it) and the soi on the right side is soi lengkee (china garden hotel is located on it).

when i went there in jan 2013 it was

- open from 12 noon. midnight.

- b 700 for the bj; if you want her to get naked / topless discuss it during negotiations.

- time limit of 40 min.

- i had the skinny won (cute, but complained about her neck hurting around the 20 min mark) and the chubby won, not at the same time.

- my buddy had noot and he said she was great (and i think he said she swallowed).

- good place to go for aircon in the afternoon, pool table, lounging.

- i'll go to bliss this month as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) isn't an option anymore but soi 6 is a better value (3 out of 4 ladies i had at red point bar didn't have a problem with cim and of course there was bbbj, fs and an in-room shower for pre / post servicing).

aside from bliss the other bj places

- pump station on soi post office (soi 13/3 or 13/2 in between second road & br)

- welkom inn (i think it's soi 1 in between second road / br)

- of course there's also le carre blanc and the telephone bar (which are in the vicinity of bliss & lk metro).

[Ehunter]

I was watching for the answer to Henry's question because I tried to find Bliss Lounge last time in Patts. I struck out. I just tried your helpful tip and struck out again. I got 4 results on google maps but none of them were for Bliss Lounge. Perhaps it's just my search technique, can you show us the way?Google took me about a minute.

[Mngweco]

I was watching for the answer to Henry's question because I tried to find Bliss Lounge last time in Patts. I struck out. I just tried your helpful tip and struck out again. I got 4 results on google maps but none of them were for Bliss Lounge. Perhaps it's just my search technique, can you show us the way?One more thing. Once you get to the 3d Road be careful when crossing the street. Muy pelegroso!

[Crazy4Thai]

Google took me about a minute.I see. Well google maps did not pan out.

Thanks everyone.

C4T

[Ehunter]

I see. Well google maps did not pan out.

Thanks everyone.

C4TThere is a lot of flack from people here about doing google searches for common things. Much of this activity would get reduced if there were a FAQ attached to the popular forms, a library or repository is needed that has yet to put together.

Those complaining about others needing to do their google searches are part of the problem for not helping to resolve the problem.

[Rjsss212]

Welcome to the ISG!


Attention Luvpuss,

See my post a few posts down where I asked you if you had any additional info on a girl you had commented on.

Now it's possible you missed it. I doubt it since you commented on a post just above it.

Now I'm new here. Though not new to mongering or LOS. So I ask myself. What's the problem?

This is a mongers forum. If you don't want to help your choice. You don't have to be arsehole about it by ignoring a request.

Jeez. Get a fucking life!

[Luvpuss]

Cheers for the heads up about Bliss and the directions. I heard about a place called the pump station, anyone got any info about this place or any others in Patts?

HIt is on Soi post office 13/2.

I have had 2 not so good experiences there. They do suck your cock under the bar while you are sitting at the bar having a drink. But the effort has been shitty and the girls bad attitude and fatso looks detract from it.

They also charged 850B.

[HenryV]

Heard of a quick exchange of info?

If thats the attitude, everyone can just cancel their membeship and google.


You heard of google? Plenty of maps on location.

[HenryV]

Consult Luvpuss, he is a veritable fountain of helpfull info.


I was watching for the answer to Henry's question because I tried to find Bliss Lounge last time in Patts. I struck out. I just tried your helpful tip and struck out again. I got 4 results on google maps but none of them were for Bliss Lounge. Perhaps it's just my search technique, can you show us the way?

[Luvpuss]

Heard of a quick exchange of info?

If thats the attitude, everyone can just cancel their membeship and google.With almost 800 posts you would think a guy would figure it out.

Yes, many many "general" questions can be answered on here with a simple google search. Maps, directions, info about places, reviews, etc. Why not get an instant answer especially when you ask "where is this or that place". Many times more info. can be found on a search than members can provide.

[Marcos]

With almost 800 posts you would think a guy would figure it out.

Yes, many many "general" questions can be answered on here with a simple google search. Maps, directions, info about places, reviews, etc. Why not get an instant answer especially when you ask "where is this or that place". Many times more info. Can be found on a search than members can provide.Tell a man (not me) "asshole" and chances are you will be drinking together later on.

Tell him "google it" and you will have made a an enemy forever.

Maybe because we're protective of our right to smalltalk.

[Luvpuss]

Tell a man (not me)"asshole" and chances are you will be drinking together later on.

Tell him "google it" and you will have made a an enemy forever.

Maybe because we're protective of our right to smalltalk.Yeah. You are probably right.

I am really not trying to be an AH about it.

In fact, I am trying to help people get as much info as possible.

Truly, you can many times get much more info. quicker and better if you search it.

[Popper1]

This happened yesterday. Was walking to Pattaya Central Mall via 2nd Road and cops were there stopping motorbike riders. They would pull over and keep about 100 percent of the people, and figure they stopped about 90 percent farangs. Apparently if you do not have a drivers license, you must pay I believe 500 baht. Asked a farang who looked pissed off what was going on. He said he had his license in his hotel room. However, the cops were keeping the keys to the motorbike, so he could not even get to his wallet. This made no sense to me on two levels. 1. How could a person drive a motorbike without having their drivers license on their person? 2. How could the cops keep this guys motorbike keys and not even allow him access to his own wallet? Clearly many things make no sense to me, and thus is. I just gave the guy a 20, and he was thrilled and took a jeepney up to his hotel to get his license. Hopefully it worked out.

Later that night decided to head to Mixx Disco. Never been there before, and need make the journey. Went down, and on the outside of the disco was cute gal. Started talking and she asked for 600 and I agreed, so off we went. On the way, she wanted to stop at McDonald's. Love that "family restaurant" located right in the heart of Prostitute Central, WS. She ordered what she wanted, and I waited across the way at this bar with a live band. Good music, and I ordered tonic water and we listened to the band playing as she ate her McShit. Well, one of these nights will make it to Mixx.

Got to hotel, everything went wrong. Little Popper had it really rough these last months, often working once, or even twice daily. Also did not turn on the hotel AC, so was sweating hard, not having much fun. She was whining about needing to go and see her friends. I got sick of her batchin' so out the door she went, no tip.

Two weeks ago did the dental thing. Three times a year whenever I head to Pattaya / Phil / Indonesia see a dentist. At least once a year do the Pattaya International Hospital. It cost about twice other dentists, but absolutely worth it. You get a better cleaning. Most charge 800 baht. ** PIH charges 1400 to 1600 baht. ** Especially if from the States, get your health care here in Thailand. US a complete disaster in terms of out of control medical costs.

** Note: Dentists charge different people different rates. Those amounts are what I personally pay, YMMV.

About 10:00 this evening went to Billion. Before that checked out Blue, next door. Talent there was horrible. I mean baaaaad. Billion not much better. Gal I chose was perhaps a solid 6 (with proper lighting). She gave the BJ / HJ and good attitude / experience overall. Only complaint was when I ready to come, she allowed all the Little Poppers to fly all over the place and did not swallow. Bit unfortunate. She said I was the only customer of Billion for any of the gals all day. And yesterday Billion only had two customers. You guys got to help them poor hags, urrrrrrrrrrrrr gals out. Overall, positive experience at 700 plus tip.

All to report.



--Popper

[PattsBoy17]

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[Marcos]

Apparently if you do not have a drivers license, you must pay I believe 500 baht. Asked a farang who looked pissed off what was going on. He said he had his license in his hotel room. However, the cops were keeping the keys to the motorbike, so he could not even get to his wallet. This made no sense to me on two levels. 1. How could a person drive a motorbike without having their drivers license on their person?Eh? You never left your documents behind sometime? I did, now I hope that doesn't make me a deviant person, hahaha.


2. How could the cops keep this guys motorbike keys and not even allow him access to his own wallet? Clearly many things make no sense to me, and thus is. I just gave the guy a 20, and he was thrilled and took a jeepney up to his hotel to get his license. Hopefully it worked out.If he had said "my money inside bike" they would have opened the seat for him. They are jerks but not sadics.

The rest is standard operating procedure. Do not think legality or anything Western styled. If one has the D / L they may have keep it, since he did not, the went for keys. By the way I left an expired D / L to them a week ago, just for the thrill of not paying Bt. 400. Then after 3 minutes I got pulled over again, showed the fresh ticket, and let go. Keep your helmet on and D / L when driving in Pattaya.

[Bumholes1]

Attention Luvpuss,

See my post a few posts down where I asked you if you had any additional info on a girl you had commented on.

Now it's possible you missed it. I doubt it since you commented on a post just above it.

Now I'm new here. Though not new to mongering or LOS. So I ask myself. What's the problem?

This is a mongers forum. If you don't want to help your choice. You don't have to be arsehole about it by ignoring a request.

Jeez. Get a fucking life!If you speak like that to members you don't deserve any help or advice!

[Mr Enternational]

This happened yesterday. Was walking to Pattaya Central Mall via 2nd Road and cops were there stopping motorbike riders. They would pull over and keep about 100 percent of the people, and figure they stopped about 90 percent farangs. Apparently if you do not have a drivers license, you must pay I believe 500 baht. Asked a farang who looked pissed off what was going on. He said he had his license in his hotel room. However, the cops were keeping the keys to the motorbike, so he could not even get to his wallet. This made no sense to me on two levels. 1. How could a person drive a motorbike without having their drivers license on their person? 2. How could the cops keep this guys motorbike keys and not even allow him access to his own wallet? Clearly many things make no sense to me, and thus is. I just gave the guy a 20, and he was thrilled and took a jeepney up to his hotel to get his license. Hopefully it worked out.It was his own fault for leaving the hotel with no money AND no license. I did the same thing the first time I got a ticket. Well I had money but not enough to pay the fines for no license (400 baht) and going the wrong way (400 baht). I had to walk back to the hotel twice and borrow money from my wingman because I didn't get enough the first time.

The other morning on 3rd Road and Central Pattaya the police was pulling people over and keeping bikes left and right. They were not farang, they were Thai. Except this one lady. She only had a green passport and no license. The police stands there every freaking morning. I still can't figure out why most of these people don't wear helmets when they know he is always there. And 9 times out of 10 it is a woman who is in violation.

[Mr Enternational]

The other night I was perusing Walking Street about 3am when I decided to head to Mixx. I went to my bike, which was parked in front of Bamboo. I made a right down Second Road and a little past Marine I looked at a chick standing alone on the corner who was looking back at me. I turned my bike around to talk to her. She said I am here looking for work. Massage Boom-Boom 700 baht. I asked for how long? She said okay 500 baht. I said yes but for how much time? She said up to you. I gave her the helmet and told her to get on. Great experience. When she finally left she didn't ask for any of that bs taxi money or anything. She was happy with the 500 that we agreed upon.

[Donnylad]

Visited Pattaya for 4 nights in mid Feb. Was unlucky to be there when police were conducting their raids on Beach Road at night. Still got some action but due to being picky, on a tight budget and various logistical factors, not as much as I had hoped and expected. Freelance girls were pretty hit and miss. More hits than misses thankfully. Stayed at Flipper lodge on Soi 8 so was pretty convenient for action. However, most of the hotter action I got was from girls around the Soi 10 area. The main highlights were a stunning, petite lady in her 30's but looks in her 20's (working at a bar on Soi 8 between Flipper Lodge & Beach Road called Good Times I think) and a lady in her 30's on beach Road called An. The latter suggested she has a side job working with the police helping them take fingerprints etc of girls picked up etc. Don't know what to make of that but she caused no trouble. Got both girls' numbers as they suggested they could arrange a preggo girl for me but neither came through. The former declined my offer to pass her's on to senior members here but An agreed. So, if any senior member wants her number, PM me. Also, if anyone wants me to report full details of my experience then PM me also. If I get much interest I will post a full report here.

DL

[PattsBoy17]

If you speak like that to members you don't deserve any help or advice!Really! Oh please Mr Bumholes1. Please teach me how to speak to someone who totally ignores a request.

As I clearly stated in my post that you quote. If a member does not want to give out info or advice. Their choice!

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[Tiger 888]

Really! Oh please Mr Bumholes1. Please teach me how to speak to someone who totally ignores a request.

As I clearly stated in my post that you quote. If a member does not want to give out info or advice. Their choice!

I won't hold that against anyone. But to ignore someone's request is just plain, being an "arsehole"

But as your screename shows you are pretty used to that huh!

Ciao7 posts with only requests and insults. Who do you think you are? You deserve to be ignored and are from now on my such list.
Probably Jackson should even delete your attacks.

[Himeros]

I would like to thank the gents that responded to my asking for info about BJ places in Patts, especially to someone lik me with almost no posts. I m still in Bnagkok atm but have plenty of time to go down to Pattaya. I will send a field report about my shenanigans this weekend.

Cheers,

H

[PattsBoy17]

7 posts with only requests and insults. Who do you think you are? You deserve to be ignored and are from now on my such list.

Probably Jackson should even delete your attacks.I'm very sorry Mr Senior member Tiger 888. But let's look at the facts.

1. I only made 1 request. Not requests. Hardly a hanging offence!

2. I believe my "insult" singular was appropriate. Re the action or inaction in this case of the offending member.

3. I wasn't aware that there was a quota of posts required before one could: "Request or Insult". If so please advice. Or I'm sorry it seems I don't have enough posts to request this!

4. Delete my attacks! Bit of a drama queen aren't we. My posts hardly constitute "attacks". Just my tame opinion on the behaviour of a particular member.

I thought this was a forum to exchange information; advice and suchlike!

Being a senior member does not afford you any rights over me. I probably have more experience in mongering worldwide then you will ever have.

Have a nice day!

[Tony Hoeprano]

The other night I was perusing Walking Street about 3am when I decided to head to Mixx. I went to my bike, which was parked in front of Bamboo. I made a right down Second Road and a little past Marine I looked at a chick standing alone on the corner who was looking back at me. I turned my bike around to talk to her. She said I am here looking for work. Massage Boom-Boom 700 baht. I asked for how long? She said okay 500 baht. I said yes but for how much time? She said up to you. I gave her the helmet and told her to get on. Great experience. When she finally left she didn't ask for any of that bs taxi money or anything. She was happy with the 500 that we agreed upon.Nice. Do you take them to your home or do you find a nearby ST hotel?

[BionicMan]

I'm very sorry Mr Senior member Tiger 888. But let's look at the facts. !7 posts and three of them have been banned.
This is a fact too.
I think the picture is pretty much clear.

[Mouse1]

Eh? You never left your documents behind sometime? I did, now I hope that doesn't make me a deviant person, hahaha.

If he had said "my money inside bike" they would have opened the seat for him. They are jerks but not sadics.

The rest is standard operating procedure. Do not think legality or anything Western styled. If one has the D / L they may have keep it, since he did not, the went for keys. By the way I left an expired D / L to them a week ago, just for the thrill of not paying Bt. 400. Then after 3 minutes I got pulled over again, showed the fresh ticket, and let go. Keep your helmet on and D / L when driving in Pattaya.I was pulled over in the same place and had to show my licence. BUT, my UK licence didn't have a motorbike symbol on the back, so I got the 400Bht fine. The police have been happy with my licence every other time. I've debated this elsewhere and I guess the police were within their rights but I still felt a little pissed off.

[PattsBoy17]

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[Marcos]

I was pulled over in the same place and had to show my licence. BUT, my UK licence didn't have a motorbike symbol on the back, so I got the 400Bht fine. The police have been happy with my licence every other time. I've debated this elsewhere and I guess the police were within their rights but I still felt a little pissed off.Police's attitude in Thailand, especially toward foreigners, is one of the most debated subjects.

My experience over the years, is that when they're are out to give fines, they will give them when they are due, to both Thai and foreigners equally. That happens especially and regularly in Pattaya and Phuket, after few days one gets to know exactly were they stand and at which times, altough there can be always the occasional surpise.

Other than that, one may meet the stray cop out for a good hit, but generally speaking I found them to be reasonably fair. I got stopped yesterday in Patpong BKK, they were especially looking for DUIs. They use first an hand-held device with green / yellow / red leds. Despite the contrary advice from a supposedly experienced lawyer, I got convinced by the Thai GF to blow in the portable ethilometer that comes with disposable spouts. The machine proved to be accurate, indicating 15 mg / l, for the one large beer I had. Limit is 50, so that was ok. Had I refused to be tested, I was given the alternative to brige 2000 to be let go. On the other hand I know there have been cases where they took no bribe and went with full extent of law against intoxicated drivers.

[Tiger 888]

On the other hand I know there have been cases where they took no bribe and went with full extent of law against intoxicated drivers.That is what they should always do.

[How14]

I'm very sorry Mr Senior member Tiger 888. But let's look at the facts.

1. I only made 1 request. Not requests. Hardly a hanging offence!

2. I believe my "insult" singular was appropriate. Re the action or inaction in this case of the offending member.

3. I wasn't aware that there was a quota of posts required before one could: "Request or Insult". If so please advice. Or I'm sorry it seems I don't have enough posts to request this!

4. Delete my attacks! Bit of a drama queen aren't we. My posts hardly constitute "attacks". Just my tame opinion on the behaviour of a particular member.

I thought this was a forum to exchange information; advice and suchlike!

Being a senior member does not afford you any rights over me. I probably have more experience in mongering worldwide then you will ever have.

Have a nice day!This post I find a little bit bitter and twisted, from someone who has no experience on this board, come on, have some respect there fellah.

[HenryV]

i have but with a cursitory eye reviewed the posts in question and, nonetheless, it appears speech restrictions are a little one-way.

is not one mans dues as good as another?


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[Crazy4Thai]

i have but with a cursitory eye reviewed the posts in question and, nonetheless, it appears speech restrictions are a little one-way.

is not one mans dues as good as another?when you say dues, do you mean a subscription fee? if so pattsboy has not paid that which is why he is a regular member. if not then what do you mean? but really this is not about membership standing, it's about how one conducts himself on the forum and whether he abides by the rules of jackson's site.

[Mr Enternational]

When you say dues, do you mean a subscription fee? If so Pattsboy has not paid that which is why he is a regular member.Being a regular member has nothing to do with paying to be a subscriber. It is a certain number of posts that elevates you from being a regular member to being a senior member.

"Senior Members are former Regular Members who have been members for at least 6 months and have made 25 or more contributions to The Forum. Senior Member's reports are temporarily held until they are reviewed by a Forum Moderator."

[Col Law]

I was pulled over in the same place and had to show my licence. BUT, my UK licence didn't have a motorbike symbol on the back, so I got the 400Bht fine. The police have been happy with my licence every other time. I've debated this elsewhere and I guess the police were within their rights but I still felt a little pissed off.My experience was being told " that is an EU driving licence you need international licence to drive here" end quote, it was only 200 baht tea money, and since then I have always carried an international driving licence, I have been stopped, and let go without tea money or the request for it.

[Sixty Two Echo]

Hello everybody, I will be in Pattaya the beginning of April. If any fellow mongers would like to meet up and have chat over a cold one. Message me!

Sixty Two Echo

[Luvpuss]

My experience was being told " that is an EU driving licence you need international licence to drive here" end quote, it was only 200 baht tea money, and since then I have always carried an international driving licence, I have been stopped, and let go without tea money or the request for it.I am sure there is no set rule. I show them my Calif. DL, my AAA insurance card and passport.

I have always been let go. Doesn't mean next time I won't have to pay.

[Fast Eddie 48]

I am sure there is no set rule. I show them my Calif. DL, my AAA insurance card and passport.

I have always been let go. Doesn't mean next time I won't have to pay.To Luvpuss.

If you have AAA in California you can get a international driver LIC for 15 USD, I never drive in Thailand go there 2 time a yr but I drive in Hong kong and Singapore but China and Brazil will not accept International lic.

www.aaa.com/vacation/idpf.html

Fast Eddie 48

[Juicyclamlover]

I am sure there is no set rule. I show them my Calif. DL, my AAA insurance card and passport.

I have always been let go. Doesn't mean next time I won't have to pay.To legally drive in Thailand you need to have either a Thai driving licence or a International Driving Licence / Permit. If you don't then the police are entitled to ask you to pay a fine.

That's why the police mainly pull over tourists (on motorcycles-scooters) at the checkpoints on 2nd Road and Beach Road as it is a 99% sure way of getting their fine.

Most reputable places will have the licence requirement in the small print of the rental contract, but who reads that? Hence why so many have to cough up.

[LittleBigMan]

I am sure there is no set rule. I show them my Calif. DL, my AAA insurance card and passport.

I have always been let go. Doesn't mean next time I won't have to pay.There is in many ways a set rule? That set rule is act like you know like yourself what you are doing. I get stopped more often than I would like once a week on the darkside.

Once stopped I get off take the key out and move towards my seat to open it and get out all my paperwork. Regardless of whether I need to carry it I have it, if asked. Never in all the years have I had a cop even try to take my keys from my bike?

From all the years of being stopped throughout Pattaya not just in the tourist area the one thing I know going back 10 years is at one time they had no idea what a International Driver license look like? Through the years in Pattaya with the cops it has become popular since many renting bikes just want to rent them knowing full well they will get stop at some point. Let's get this out too that you don't have insurance on the bike regardless of what the rental shop guys tell you!

The rule of thumb is that the cops can't read English! They look at the International book because that is what their chief have told them to do. I can tell you majority of them don't even have the stamp next to the motorbike area allowing or confirming that you can drive a motorbike. The more you give them the more confused they are so in many cases not to lose face they look at it and act like they know what they are doing and give it back to you.

They have check points throughout Pattaya, the smallest thing you can do for yourself at a light is stay right and never be the first to go through. Count to three and then go for two reasons? Cars running red light and the first wave always gets pull over they can only pull so many over?

LBM

[Mr Enternational]

Let's get this out too that you don't have insurance on the bike regardless of what the rental shop guys tell you!There is definitely some kind of insurance on the bike. It may not be the kind you may need in a particular situation, but there is definitely something. Why else would I have to go to the insurance window at the DMV and pay 200 baht each year before I can get my tag.

[Luvpuss]

I have been stopped at these 3 places:

The south end of 2nd Road. Not far from the go cart area.

The north part of 2nd Road. Near the circle.

As you enter Beach Road. From the north.

I have seen them as these 3 locations many times.

One thing that I did last time near the go-carts is as I was coming down the hill, I got off and walked my bike through the intersection. They were stopping everyone.

A pain in the ass, but they never even gave me a sniff.

[Jp Slicky]

Beach road just past Soi 8 there is a cop station. Seen many times out there stopping tourist

[LittleBigMan]

There is definitely some kind of insurance on the bike. It may not be the kind you may need in a particular situation, but there is definitely something. Why else would I have to go to the insurance window at the DMV and pay 200 baht each year before I can get my tag.Mr. E. Stud, you continue to do what you do best and that is stay out late and find that pussy

Which many have questioned you but I know you are a young master. When it comes to domestic

Items and day to day living aside from the mongering leave that to me?

Yes there is some kind of insurance and although you pay yearly with your bike registration before it happens to you and you try to file I'll save you the laughter.

Since you and I aren't Thais this insurance is useless to us because it basically goes towards their National health care. This insurance allows a Thai who gets into a accident to go to a place like Banglamung Hospital.

And get treated. But nevertheless you have to pay it, on a rented I will stick my neck out and say 99. 9%

Of the Thais renting a bike to you will say something " have insurance" if he / she can speak some English

Ask them the next question. If the bike gets stolen or damage beyond repair what is it going to cost me to buy it?

[LittleBigMan]

I have been stopped at these 3 places:

The south end of 2nd Road. Not far from the go cart area.

The north part of 2nd Road. Near the circle.

As you enter Beach Road. From the north.

I have seen them as these 3 locations many times.

One thing that I did last time near the go-carts is as I was coming down the hill, I got off and walked my bike through the intersection. They were stopping everyone.

A pain in the ass, but they never even gave me a sniff.Smart move, broken bike?

LBM

[LittleBigMan]

Beach road just past Soi 8 there is a cop station. Seen many times out there stopping touristMy point, stick to the right because they are on left near their station. Once right continue on the right until you are past Central. Lately they have a secondary cop after Soi 9, waiting?

LBM

[Mr Enternational]

Since you and I aren't Thais this insurance is useless to us because it basically goes towards their National health care. This insurance allows a Thai who gets into a accident to go to a place like Banglamung Hospital. And get treated. But nevertheless you have to pay it, on a rented I will stick my neck out and say 99. 9% Of the Thais renting a bike to you will say something " have insurance" if he / she can speak some English Ask them the next question. If the bike gets stolen or damage beyond repair what is it going to cost me to buy it?That is why I stated that there was some kind of insurance, although it may not be the kind you are in need of. When a car did a hit and run on my cousin he had to pay 1500 baht for the bike. I never saw the shape of the bike, but he looked like he had gotten beat up with an ugly stick.

[HenryV]

If little faults, proceeding on distemper,

Shall not be wink'd at, how shall we stretch our eye.

When capital crimes, chew'd, swallow'd and digested,

Appear before us? We'll yet enlarge that man, though

Crazy4Thai, Luvpuss, and others, would have him punished.


When you say dues, do you mean a subscription fee? If so Pattsboy has not paid that which is why he is a regular member. If not then what do you mean? But really this is not about membership standing, it's about how one conducts himself on the forum and whether he abides by the rules of Jackson's site.

[ProfetaPk]

To legally drive in Thailand you need to have either a Thai driving licence or a International Driving Licence / Permit. If you don't then the police are entitled to ask you to pay a fine.

That's why the police mainly pull over tourists (on motorcycles-scooters) at the checkpoints on 2nd Road and Beach Road as it is a 99% sure way of getting their fine.

Most reputable places will have the licence requirement in the small print of the rental contract, but who reads that? Hence why so many have to cough up.I got stopped two times and fined 400 baht. The headache is that you have to go to police station to clear the fine and get your license back.

I raccomend for anybody staying longer then one mont hin Thailand, to make a proper Thai driving license. It is easy, cheap and quick.

Happy mongering

[Luvpuss]

I got stopped two times and fined 400 baht. The headache is that you have to go to police station to clear the fine and get your license back.

I raccomend for anybody staying longer then one mont hin Thailand, to make a proper Thai driving license. It is easy, cheap and quick.

Happy mongeringReally? Did you just ask for the citation?

I guys I saw were just paying the cops at the scene. 500B

[Marcos]

I raccomend for anybody staying longer then one mont hin Thailand, to make a proper Thai driving license. It is easy, cheap and quick.And maybe even cool to show to firends, but won't save you from getting a fine if a cop is determined to give, and will not make a bit of difference in case you're involved in an accident (knock wood).

[Daddy07]

I raccomend for anybody staying longer then one mont hin Thailand, to make a proper Thai driving license. It is easy, cheap and quick.Well, relatively speaking it might be cheap but it sure as hell isn't easy or quick. The office is way out in the boondocks and I'm told the waiting time is insufferable. I've been living here for almost 6 years now and haven't got around to it yet. It's easier to just pay the fines; better yet to avoid the checkpoints by knowing where they are and when the cops are there.

[Marcos]

Well, relatively speaking it might be cheap but it sure as hell isn't easy or quick.Correct. I did go to the office in Phuket with two perfectly valid D / Ls accompanied by their respective International carnets, for the purpose of avoiding at least the driving test, as Thai regulations allows. Under various excuses they would not accept either one. I got to understand their attitude (take long time), cut my losses to the cost of immigration address certification and medical certificate, and forgot about it, for now at least.

[Forever69]

And maybe even cool to show to firends, but won't save you from getting a fine if a cop is determined to give, and will not make a bit of difference in case you're involved in an accident (knock wood).It makes a huge difference.

Every bike has 3rd party insurance meaning that they will pay for the damage you do in an accident,

Even to the person riding pillion on your bike, but only if you have a valid license.

The license is also a valid I. D. And quite easy to get. It took me one day for both motorbike and car.

[Mr Enternational]

Well, relatively speaking it might be cheap but it sure as hell isn't easy or quick. The office is way out in the boondocks and I'm told the waiting time is insufferable. I've been living here for almost 6 years now and haven't got around to it yet. It's easier to just pay the fines; better yet to avoid the checkpoints by knowing where they are and when the cops are there.For the last 3 years it has only taken me about an hour. I usually go at 11am. But first you have to go to immigration with copy of your lease to get the residence paperwork and you also have to go to a doctor to get a medical letter. You must have a copy of all you documents for each type of license you wish to apply for.

[Don Christiano]

First night, some highlights:

- getting rejected at Baccara (or is it Battara) because I was on the Japan / Korea / School girl floor.

- have to give it to those guys, there where making it rain non-stop with those ping ping balls for about 45 minuets after arriving, and fully committed to the place by ordering champagne, whiskey, etc.

- got a BJ in the bathroom at soi 6 in a gogo for 1000 bt (I told the girl I had a hotel very far away)

- was taking aback by the cost / benefit ratio of the Russian bar on walking street, for some reason I thought they would have had hotter Russian girls, but this tendency is the same in London and Germany.

- managed to get another one from the hotel (five star) , it some convincing, although this may have well been a show put on in order to increase the tip.

- a few times in the night the mamasans charming laser pointer, very disappointingly, missed the cutest and youngest girl dancing. Maybe because she was spoken for? Or are there gogos that are really only that? Need to investigate this further.

Question for the veterans: when you negotiate price and services with the gogo girl, it is necessary to specify 'smoking' whiteout? Or is this assumed, as in some of my beloved fkk place?

Thanks and best

[UShobbyist]

- getting rejected at Baccara (or is it Battara) because I was on the Japan / Korea / School girl floor.

Can you tell us more details about this? Did they reject you because of your race or other reason?