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JesseJames
12-19-13, 17:35
Does anyone know when they will start up the Beach Road Vendor deal?
Gin And Tonic
12-20-13, 08:55
Could someone report cost of takeout at What's Up A-GoGo
Could someone report cost of takeout at What's Up A-GoGo700 baht bar fine. 2000 st. 3000 lt. Always negotiable.
Ira Johnson
12-22-13, 03:03
Could someone report cost of takeout at What's Up A-GoGoI'm curious what others think too. I've met a remarkably-endowed and funny girl on DIA who works there, and in our online negotiations she states the barfine is 1000 and her daily rate (as in the whole day, I am discussing taking her to Samet) is 3000. Seems a bit steep on both, I was expecting Gogo Dancer barfines of 600-800 and a daily rate of 2000-2500. But she clearly has two large 'negotiation points' working in her favor.
Y'all help me and G&T out with your what's up info please.
Happy holidays,
Ira
Wolvenvacht
12-22-13, 09:17
I'm curious what others think too. I've met a remarkably-endowed and funny girl on DIA who works there, and in our online negotiations she states the barfine is 1000 and her daily rate (as in the whole day, I am discussing taking her to Samet) is 3000. Seems a bit steep on both, I was expecting Gogo Dancer barfines of 600-800 and a daily rate of 2000-2500. But she clearly has two large 'negotiation points' working in her favor.
Y'all help me and G&T out with your what's up info please.
Happy holidays,
IraBF of 1000 baht is indeed rather steep, but perhaps you can negotiate some discount if you take her out several days. 2000 baht for LT, which is a whole night only, is considered acceptable so a whole day of 24 hours for 3000 baht should be OK.
Of course, you then pay in total 4000 baht for one day in a country where the minimum wage for unskilled labor is only 400 baht per day.
On the other hand, you do not want to make her unhappy with the financial arrangements since she will be with you for several days on a small island.
BF of 1000 baht is indeed rather steep, but perhaps you can negotiate some discount if you take her out several days. 2000 baht for LT, which is a whole night only, is considered acceptable so a whole day of 24 hours for 3000 baht should be OK.
Of course, you then pay in total 4000 baht for one day in a country where the minimum wage for unskilled labor is only 400 baht per day.
On the other hand, you do not want to make her unhappy with the financial arrangements since she will be with you for several days on a small island.Subject to correct. The BBC reports that the Thaksin Govt has raised the minimum wage to 300 baht and hour! I suspect the accurate figure is 300 baht / day!
Reiner Otto
12-22-13, 14:26
BF of 1000 baht is indeed rather steep, but perhaps you can negotiate some discount if you take her out several days. 2000 baht for LT, which is a whole night only, is considered acceptable so a whole day of 24 hours for 3000 baht should be OK.
Of course, you then pay in total 4000 baht for one day in a country where the minimum wage for unskilled labor is only 400 baht per day.
On the other hand, you do not want to make her unhappy with the financial arrangements since she will be with you for several days on a small island.In October, I had one dancer from a beer bar on WS for 10 days travelling to Phuket etc. Not to be compared to a stunner from a GoGo, but one of the better lookig girls from the beer bar, because dancing.
Cost was 1300BHT / day for her, plus 600Bht / day barfine.
I'm curious what others think too. I've met a remarkably-endowed and funny girl on DIA who works there, and in our online negotiations she states the barfine is 1000 and her daily rate (as in the whole day, I am discussing taking her to Samet) is 3000. Seems a bit steep on both, I was expecting Gogo Dancer barfines of 600-800 and a daily rate of 2000-2500. But she clearly has two large 'negotiation points' working in her favor.
Y'all help me and G&T out with your what's up info please.
Happy holidays,
IraNever take any girl on vacation till you stay with her couple of days before. No need to mention that you are planning a trip with her. Chemistry is everything to have good fun. If you think the girl is good, then negotiate.
Of course no vacation sticks to budget. You will buy her some clothes, gift items etc.
If the girl is good in and out of bed it is all worth it.
I have taken many girls are vacation in Thailand, Philippines, China, Caribbean, Europe etc. Of course these are not P4P girls.
I have given them gifts but never discussed money before. Of course I did put some money in their purse for Asian girls.
On vacation you do not want to make it as a business deal. Both of you should enjoy the time together like holding hands walking on the beach, having drinks watching sunset etc.
Gin And Tonic
12-22-13, 16:09
I'm curious what others think too. I've met a remarkably-endowed and funny girl on DIA who works there, and in our online negotiations she states the barfine is 1000 and her daily rate (as in the whole day, I am discussing taking her to Samet) is 3000. Seems a bit steep on both, I was expecting Gogo Dancer barfines of 600-800 and a daily rate of 2000-2500. But she clearly has two large 'negotiation points' working in her favor.
Y'all help me and G&T out with your what's up info please.
Happy holidays,
IraThe ladies there are clearly a cut above. Sometimes in cases like this, that can provide life long memories, you have to do the conversion and say the $130 a day is well worth it.
I'm curious what others think too. I've met a remarkably-endowed and funny girl on DIA who works there, and in our online negotiations she states the barfine is 1000 and her daily rate (as in the whole day, I am discussing taking her to Samet) is 3000. Seems a bit steep on both, I was expecting Gogo Dancer barfines of 600-800 and a daily rate of 2000-2500. But she clearly has two large 'negotiation points' working in her favor.What is 'DIA'? Be aware, as others have said, that it is hazardous to commit to any bookings without ascertaining chemistry. I would add that the higher the price the worse the attitude and service, generally, in this business.
What is 'DIA'? Be aware, as others have said, that it is hazardous to commit to any bookings without ascertaining chemistry. I would add that the higher the price the worse the attitude and service, generally, in this business.DIA = dating in asia, another of the various online forums, another TLL etc. Slightly more sinister than this site. 5555
Mr Enternational
12-23-13, 04:47
I'm curious what others think too. I've met a remarkably-endowed and funny girl on DIA who works there, and in our online negotiations she states the barfine is 1000 and her daily rate (as in the whole day, I am discussing taking her to Samet) is 3000. Seems a bit steep on both, I was expecting Gogo Dancer barfines of 600-800 and a daily rate of 2000-2500. But she clearly has two large 'negotiation points' working in her favor.What I think is why would you be negotiating with a woman who you met on a dating site? Not only that, but if you met her on the dating site and you were negotiating with her, what the fuck would that have to do with a bar fine? I'm against barfines anyway, but if I was to pay one for a woman then it definitely would not be for a woman that I already knew. I tell you what, instead of giving the bar 1000, just tell me her contact info and give me 500 and I will bring her right to your hotel.
I would add that the higher the price the worse the attitude and service, generally, in this business.I'd have to agree!
Ira Johnson
12-24-13, 08:06
What I think is why would you be negotiating with a woman who you met on a dating site? Not only that, but if you met her on the dating site and you were negotiating with her, what the fuck would that have to do with a bar fine? I'm against barfines anyway, but if I was to pay one for a woman then it definitely would not be for a woman that I already knew. I tell you what, instead of giving the bar 1000, just tell me her contact info and give me 500 and I will bring her right to your hotel.Barfines do not totally bother me, as they are connected with the girl's employment (I know there are other opinions on this) , but in fact Mr E, your blunt opinion is what I needed. Yeah, if I met her in the bar, negotiation is going to be expected. But from a dating site. Eessh. Thanks for the cold water in the face, guy. Seriously.
In fact I stopped by Patts on my way here to Koh Samet, and met a gogo dancer (about 400AM just off Walking street). Super hot, great kisser, nice but fake boobs. After a drink and a shot I asked price for short time (wanted to ascertain chemistry as another suggested). And get this: She claimed the barfine is 1500 and her ST rate is 3000.
I think she may have been offended when I busted up laughing. Outlandish.
I'm not thrilled with DIA, and am having better luck with WeChat and ThaiFriendly. Although have not landed anything yet. I think I am just going to bop back up to Patts tomorrow and do some shopping.
Keep it coming Mr E. Tough Love!
700 baht bar fine. 2000 st. 3000 lt. Always negotiable.In the ballpark. My price, circa 2012, was a 1000 baht BF with 2000 LT / overnight. Don't know how negotiable, but try. At the time, I was astounded that the patrons / payers were rather youngish. Had sights on one of the performers in the light lesbian show (could see that one of her colleagues was lightly licking her pussy lips) , but she was already "spoken for" by a studly Westerner in his 20s, who was paying for it. Did barfine (two nights) an energetic dancer from the place, a lass with a good attitude. Even then, punters on this board were asking "Whats Up" with the fucking overpriced barfine structure.
day 1 – soi 6. as is the case anywhere a mix of girls in terms of personality, the first one i bought a drink for was cute and sweet but rather shy. i like my girls to show a bit of enthusiasm. went to another bar and started chatting to a very busty one, she very quickly got to the point (lit a cigarette and pointed to my unit and said she'll smoke that next) , so upstairs we went. she was ok an gave me a reasonable amount of time but was a seasoned professional and did what was expected without any gfe, gave her a pass mark but nothing spectacular. 300 baht to the bar and couldn't remember at the time what i was supposed to give the girl so gave her 1k. should i have given a bit less, e.g. 1k including bar fine?
couldn't tell much difference between the bars in soi 6 and i presume it depends whether you get lucky with the individual girl.
day 2 – le carre blanc. a bit disappointed with this place considering all i had read about it. not hard to find (soi 33 just off 3rd street just north of pattaya south road) , ring the doorbell when you get there but they'll have seen you coming via cctv cameras anyway. they will try to get you behind the curtained areas as soon as they can. i sat at the bar first anyway and they will stroke your cock there but very quickly followed by a 'let's go to the curtain area' again. got a very nice blow job in the curtain area, and she was insistent on making me cum. good service but would put this place in the same category as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and bliss. gave her 1k, but made sure she knew that i knew 700 baht was typical blow job rate, but that i was tipping her extra for good service and attitude. i don't want to spoil the market.
the girl at le carre blanc hadn't made me cum so i came across a massage place on soi 11, 2nd road. if you see girls sitting outside and oil massage is on the menu for 300 baht then you can be sure extras are on the menu (or perhaps they are on menu everywhere in patts). i was a bit tired by this point and in a moment of madness offered her an additional 500 baht for a hand job, when 500-600 total for a hj should suffice. the problem with paying too much for the limited option is that the girl is already happy with it and therefore won't be motivated to upsell any further, when i really would have preferred to shag her, as usually for massage shop girls she was young, pretty, slim and breasty. i offered her 800 tip for a shag but since that was only 300 more than i'd stupidly offered for a hj she wouldn't have it. doh!
day 3 – thought i'd go for a soapy, although more expensive than some other options you should get what you pay for. i have grand visions of gorgeous girls based on experience in shanghai a few years ago. i was looking for sabailand but saw the signs for honey 2 so went in there instead. i was disappointed with the lineup. there was lots of choice, but the 1800 baht girls were all fat and the 2200 girls had better bodies but not all that good looking. i was sitting 20 metres or so from where the girls were and with my poor eyesight picked one that looked nice, but when she came over i found that although she had nice legs and a cute face, there wasn't a lot of cleavage. bummer!
if you have not been to a soapy before don't stress over it, it is very easy. as soon as you walk in a captain will greet you and lead you to a chair, where you can look at the girls as long as you want until you pick one. some of the girls will smile and wink at you, but take your time.
once you have chosen you pay upfront (don't worry, you will still get good service in these places, it is a big deal for the girls if a customer complains). you will be asked if you want to buy a drink, this is optional but i bought a lemon soda for her and one for myself, a small investment in making the girl happy. the girl will then lead you upstairs to the room.
it should be 30 minutes each on the water mattress, in the tub and one the bed, but i think my girl made it more like 20 minutes. her service was good though, and she aimed to please. i could easily have stretched the time out, perhaps by playing with her in the tub, but considering the lack of contour on the top half i wasn't really into her.
overall i feel that i got what i paid for but would have liked a hotter girl (with bigger breasts).
day 4 – left my hotel with an open mind. ended up at walking street (as you do) , can't say i like the increase in tourist numbers even compared with five years ago. some hot russian chicks around but shame that they are all with their boyfriends. can't remember what go-go i ended up in, it did have some nice girls and the girl i bought a drink for was cute and energetic. the kind that a sucker could fall for if spending too long in thailand. didn't want to bf her though so gave her an additional 50 baht tip instead of a second drink and left. poked my nose into some other go-gos and felt that the overall standard has declined over the last couple of years.
ended up wrapping my arms around a beer bar girl on soi 8 who had smiled as i went past, she was a bit older (early 30's) and slim so surprised to find that she had a daughter. kissing and cuddling in the bar is always a good sign and sure enough she was gfe back in my room. i usually prefer st and to shag them on site if possible but ended up being a lt. no talk of money until she left, gave her 1500 at 9am after a second shag.
overall – pattaya is still an all you can eat buffet, with lots of different courses (go-gos, beer bars, massage shops, soapys, street walkers) , but the overall standard is declining. fortunately the huge supply means prices are not going up that much, but i do wonder if that will change if the number of wealthy russian and chinese tourists continues to increase and the thai economy keeps growing. the huge supply also doesn't really matter, i only do 1 or 2 girls a day, so all i ever need is 1 or 2 hotties wherever i am, and it is just as easy if not easier to locate hot girls and value for money in cebu, shenzhen or wherever. patts is still a good time but i won't be hurrying back here specifically any time soon. i guess i am neutral towards the place.
Gin And Tonic
12-28-13, 17:08
A buddy was in there a few weeks ago and witnessed a couple of English 120kg hooligans jump a small guy who had just gone in for a drink. Seems the 2 well over served goofs were upset the bar girls were paying attention to the young guy after they had been buying lady drinks all night. Apparently these guys are regulars and were back at it the next time my friend went in to eat there. If the owners of these places won't protect patrons from this kind of thing they should be run out of business.
As Tanqueray and tonic is my cocktail of choice (though I like a good scotch) and I love to drink, my spirit immediately lifts slightly when I see a post with your name beside it.
That being said, it seems there should be a bit more to this story than you've told. What exactly happened between the time she sat down next to the little guy and the beating that ensued?
With 1 exception many years ago, I've never seen a guy just stand up and clock someone without trying to either get things his way, scare the other off or at least vocalize his displeasure.
So, was the little guy just cold cocked or did he in some way think that the ordinary circumstances of the situation would protect him?
A buddy was in there a few weeks ago and witnessed a couple of English 120kg hooligans jump a small guy who had just gone in for a drink. Seems the 2 well over served goofs were upset the bar girls were paying attention to the young guy after they had been buying lady drinks all night. Apparently these guys are regulars and were back at it the next time my friend went in to eat there. If the owners of these places won't protect patrons from this kind of thing they should be run out of business.
Fawn The Guyver
12-29-13, 15:50
Hi Mianbao,
Thanks for you cool report, I just wonder why Honey 2 got expensive like this, I remember last year I have pay 1400 with a greate girl. I go in 2 weeks so I will find out my self then if the pices went up.
But what you wrote about Le Carre Blanc, I'm now not sure to go there or not.
FTG.
Day 3 – Thought I'd go for a soapy, although more expensive than some other options you should get what you pay for. I have grand visions of gorgeous girls based on experience in Shanghai a few years ago. I was looking for Sabailand but saw the signs for Honey 2 so went in there instead. I was disappointed with the lineup. There was lots of choice, but the 1800 baht girls were all fat and the 2200 girls had better bodies but not all that good looking. I was sitting 20 metres or so from where the girls were and with my poor eyesight picked one that looked nice, but when she came over I found that although she had nice legs and a cute face, there wasn't a lot of cleavage. Bummer!
Naked Gunz
12-29-13, 18:49
A buddy was in there a few weeks ago and witnessed a couple of English 120kg hooligans jump a small guy who had just gone in for a drink. Seems the 2 well over served goofs were upset the bar girls were paying attention to the young guy after they had been buying lady drinks all night. Apparently these guys are regulars and were back at it the next time my friend went in to eat there. If the owners of these places won't protect patrons from this kind of thing they should be run out of business.Brits and Aussies think they own the place. Actually they do in most respects, at any rate, your friend could easily enlist Thai Mafia for some payback..
day 2 – le carre blanc. a bit disappointed with this place considering all i had read about it. not hard to find (soi 33 just off 3rd street just north of pattaya south road) , ring the doorbell when you get there but they'll have seen you coming via cctv cameras anyway. they will try to get you behind the curtained areas as soon as they can. i sat at the bar first anyway and they will stroke your cock there but very quickly followed by a 'let's go to the curtain area' again. got a very nice blow job in the curtain area, and she was insistent on making me cum. good service but would put this place in the same category as [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and bliss. gave her 1k, but made sure she knew that i knew 700 baht was typical blow job rate, but that i was tipping her extra for good service and attitude. i don't want to spoil the market.well now that you know how the place works, you should be able to fine tune your approach if you decide to return.
remember, carre blanc is more of an exhibitionist kind of bar. if you don't mind seeing others getting blown in the bar area (good to survey the girls skills) , as well as you yourself, there is no reason to go behind the curtain. the curtain is mostly used if you want to bang a girl, and even then, others might be back there fucking as well, maby2-3 meters away so this can turn into an orgy type of situation. it is kind of cool because they use a photographers red-light that casts a dreamy vision to everything going on back there.
if you indicate you don't want to go to the big room behind the theater curtain, the girl won't be disappointed. you should not feel like your being upselled. in my opinion her performance is not affected and you are not continually nagged to go back there. you get asked only once, and that is it. the girls assume you might want to fuck them which is why they ask about going back there, so relax.
i have been there over 10-15 times and not once did i feel they tried to play games with services / money. i have never stopped at bliss or [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901). i should though, just to compare.
LittleBigMan
12-31-13, 08:23
700 baht bar fine. 2000 st. 3000 lt. Always negotiable.This is incorrect at What's Up!
The normal Barfine is 2000 Baht before Midnight and after it is 1000 baht. The last few days due to the holiday season the Barfine is 3000 before Midnight and 2000 baht after!
Of course the price for drinks are more than most other go go's but if you can afford the barfine the latter should not matter?
LBM
Reiner Otto
12-31-13, 12:11
This is incorrect at What's Up!
The normal Barfine is 2000 Baht before Midnight and after it is 1000 baht. The last few days due to the holiday season the Barfine is 3000 before Midnight and 2000 baht after!
LBMI payed 1500BF in Iron. 3000/4000 LT for stunner, beginning of October.
ConquerorVal
12-31-13, 17:04
I payed 1500BF in Iron. 3000/4000 LT for stunner, beginning of October.Fucking right-wild inflation! I can see why Mr. Enternational does not believe in bar fines. Thailand's prices are getting outrageous, especially if LT turns into mediocre performance. We are talking about $150. 00 Canadian. I can get a pretty good experience for that amount of money back home. It feels like the market in Thailand is turning into a seller's market. Customers need to turn this around. Sosua is looking better and better.
Member #4178
12-31-13, 17:22
It feels like the market in Thailand is turning into a seller's market. Customers need to turn this around. Sosua is looking better and better.Prostitution is over long ago in Thailand as economy developed. Now mostly old ladies ans this about it. Other way is to find a girlfriend. Still from overall tourist experience Thailand is the most safest and the most pleasing destination in the world.
Forget Susua go to Africa it the origin, good only for sex Marathon, otherwise Thailand wins (hotels, food, sightseeing etc).
Fawn The Guyver
12-31-13, 17:55
thanks a lot for you report this helped a lot.
i will try this place now :-d.
well now that you know how the place works, you should be able to fine tune your approach if you decide to return.
remember, carre blanc is more of an exhibitionist kind of bar. if you don't mind seeing others getting blown in the bar area (good to survey the girls skills) , as well as you yourself, there is no reason to go behind the curtain. the curtain is mostly used if you want to bang a girl, and even then, others might be back there fucking as well, maby2-3 meters away so this can turn into an orgy type of situation. it is kind of cool because they use a photographers red-light that casts a dreamy vision to everything going on back there.
if you indicate you don't want to go to the big room behind the theater curtain, the girl won't be disappointed. you should not feel like your being upselled. in my opinion her performance is not affected and you are not continually nagged to go back there. you get asked only once, and that is it. the girls assume you might want to fuck them which is why they ask about going back there, so relax.
i have been there over 10-15 times and not once did i feel they tried to play games with services / money. i have never stopped at bliss or [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901). i should though, just to compare.
Wow. Paying $100-$150 dollars in Pattaya! Very sad. Last time I was there (just a few weeks ago) , out of 6-8 sessions the most I paid was 700 baht, and the least was 500.
It feels like the market in Thailand is turning into a seller's market. Customers need to turn this around. Sosua is looking better and better.I would say be careful. It is a time of year quirk.
Aside from this though, the Dominican exchange rate is running at 42 / USD so the value is easily better than Thailand. That is, as long as you are experienced with the Dominican hustle and you take well to big ass girls it may be worth it to you. Also the travel costs & stress from Canada can't even compare. The Thailand disneyland sex scene is hard to match at any price though. You can only hang in the DR for so long though so Thailand carries another big advantage.
thanks a lot for you report this helped a lot.
i will try this place now :-d.try being sociable once inside. every girl will notice and warm up to you much quicker.
so i enjoy sitting & talking at the bar with another patron. this makes the girls feel like you are ignoring them, which they "don't" like. to get your attention back, one will weasel around and soon enough be deep throating you right there on the bar chair, trying to keep you from chatting further. note: if you allow her to do this, you will have to pay her once she is finished. you can either let her finish you there or retire to the couch where it is more comfortable. even if you go behind the curtain, it is what, less than $10 usd?
i wonder how [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) or bliss compares? anybody know?
Thailand's prices are getting outrageous,Those rates are for one bar not all of Thailand, you can get action in many other places for much less. This girl was a bargain at less than 1000B.
GettingTang
12-31-13, 22:34
I'm not cheap by any stretch, but in my humble opinion, those of you paying in excess of $100 for a date (in any capacity) might just as well stay home and pay for high priced services where you're at. Thailand is known for much more then bargirls and sex, but honestly, let's be real, we go there #1 reason is for sexual experiences. Paying the same you can find it in Western world is just silly.
When I was in Thailand in 1997, I did a good long stint in Bangkok and Pattaya and had trouble spending more then $50 USD on any date, with most running around $30 USD.
So unless the talent has completely dried up, there is no reason for this pricing increase aside from willing mongers who want to overpay. Overpaying in my opinion gets you less respect and does not equal better service. You see in Thailand, better service happens from good chemistry, making the girls comfortable, making them laugh, being playful, loose and free. That's how you get great service out of the women there.
Crocodilexp
12-31-13, 23:08
Wow. Paying $100-$150 dollars in Pattaya! Very sad. Last time I was there (just a few weeks ago) , out of 6-8 sessions the most I paid was 700 baht, and the least was 500.How was the quality on Beach Road? I hit Beach Road 2-3 times in December, and there was absolutely nothing worthwhile. Just a bunch of skanks I wouldn't go with if they paid me $150. Never had a problem like this in 10 years so far. Quality has been getting steadily lower, but quantity was still there and it was always possible to find something. Time window when fair amount of talent also got reduced, from 3pm-2am to roughly 8pm-11pm last year (maybe a few hours longer if police doesn't come through). Then, they have that awful market.
I'm almost ready to declare the Beach Road dead for good (for me) , but maybe it will bounce back. Any thoughts? Are there any other alternatives in the 500-700 baht range in Pattaya (I know Soi 6, but that's a zoo, and ends up 1000+).
How was the quality on Beach Road? I hit Beach Road 2-3 times in December, and there was absolutely nothing worthwhile. Just a bunch of skanks I wouldn't go with if they paid me $150. Never had a problem like this in 10 years so far. Quality has been getting steadily lower, but quantity was still there and it was always possible to find something. Time window when fair amount of talent also got reduced, from 3pm-2am to roughly 8pm-11pm last year (maybe a few hours longer if police doesn't come through). Then, they have that awful market.
I'm almost ready to declare the Beach Road dead for good (for me) , but maybe it will bounce back. Any thoughts? Are there any other alternatives in the 500-700 baht range in Pattaya (I know Soi 6, but that's a zoo, and ends up 1000+).Last time I shopped the Beach was at the end of 2012. I found 19 and 20 year olds all 4 times I tried over a two month period, but I had to put a ton of leg work in. The last time it took more than 45 minutes of walking around. At the end, with the moto fees to and from the room (up on 3rd Road) it was just too much, even at 700 Baht and with 3 of those 4 girls having really awesome bodies (even surprised me). Got some of their numbers but they only worked occasionally so rebooking that was tough.
At the same price range you could try the massage parlors on Chaiyapoon. Low end places but you can find girls of equal quality to what you usually find on the beach and you don't have to pay for a room. Shouldn't be more than 700 all in. Sometimes even less. I've also gone all in for similar prices on Soi Honey at the small massage shops during off hours. Beware that you might hear a guy a few tables over getting his shots in though.
Fawn The Guyver
01-01-14, 02:50
wow thanks a lot for the cool tip, i will not for get what you have told me.
try being sociable once inside. every girl will notice and warm up to you much quicker.
so i enjoy sitting & talking at the bar with another patron. this makes the girls feel like you are ignoring them, which they "don't" like. to get your attention back, one will weasel around and soon enough be deep throating you right there on the bar chair, trying to keep you from chatting further. note: if you allow her to do this, you will have to pay her once she is finished. you can either let her finish you there or retire to the couch where it is more comfortable. even if you go behind the curtain, it is what, less than $10 usd?
i wonder how [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) or bliss compares? anybody know?
Crocodilexp
01-01-14, 10:09
Last time I shopped the Beach was at the end of 2012. I found 19 and 20 year olds all 4 times I tried over a two month period, but I had to put a ton of leg work in.That was fine for me, I don't mind walking around for an hour or two (hate sitting in a bar on the other hand). There were always some diamonds in the rough up until early 2013. And then for a few months something if I looked for long enough and hit the right time window. Then, this past December, nothing. Not even a decent number of old hags.
At the same price range you could try the massage parlors on Chaiyapoon. Low end places but you can find girls of equal quality to what you usually find on the beach and you don't have to pay for a room. Shouldn't be more than 700 all in. Sometimes even less. I've also gone all in for similar prices on Soi Honey at the small massage shops during off hours. Beware that you might hear a guy a few tables over getting his shots in though.Thanks, I'll try some of those. Do you know if the massage girls are available for take-out? I like the option to take the girl to my hotel (for a proper shower and leisurely session, increasing the chance of GFE). Hate doing it on their premises, especially under the cover of a massage, which usually ends up being neither good massage nor decent sex (quickie, hush-hush, don't get too loud, everything up to them, not me).
. We are talking about $150. 00 Canadian. I can get a pretty good experience for that amount of money back home.Where in the western world yo can get a LT for $150. 00 Canadian? We can dispute about stunners as judgements are often subjective and performance cannot be rated before hand. It can only be afterwards and can result into a repeat or not.
But 150. 00 $ for a long time is nothing you can get outside of certain SEA countries, or a few southamerican ones.
Wow thanks a lot for the cool tip, I will not for get what you have told me.I don't want to oversell the place to you or anybody else, so keep in mind that with your first visit the girls will be as cautious with you as you might be picky with them. Once they figure you out though, what you like, and are looking for, you will get what you want with only minor encouragement.
The girls there act like a bunch of sisters with each other and the owner makes sure of that for business reasons. You might notice the owner, French European from Cannes (I think) who likes to sit closest to the kitchen. He was there most every night I was there and he watches the bar to make sure the patrons have had a good time.
I should also say that this place is not an exception to the YMMV concept. Everywhere in the world, more attractive guys have much easier time than guys who are sick-looking overweight and ugly or have no manners / respect with the girls. Those are the guys who will report about how their experience sucked and they had a bad time or felt like they were being ripped off.
Fawn The Guyver
01-01-14, 21:10
Thanks to you too. Lucky I'm always nice to the girls this why manyby I have always a good time with them, and I'm not old and not a fatty one. So I can't wait to try it out how it was for me.
I will report it then here.
I don't want to oversell the place to you or anybody else, so keep in mind that with your first visit the girls will be as cautious with you as you might be picky with them. Once they figure you out though, what you like, and are looking for, you will get what you want with only minor encouragement.
The girls there act like a bunch of sisters with each other and the owner makes sure of that for business reasons. You might notice the owner, French European from Cannes (I think) who likes to sit closest to the kitchen. He was there most every night I was there and he watches the bar to make sure the patrons have had a good time.
I should also say that this place is not an exception to the YMMV concept. Everywhere in the world, more attractive guys have much easier time than guys who are sick-looking overweight and ugly or have no manners / respect with the girls. Those are the guys who will report about how their experience sucked and they had a bad time or felt like they were being ripped off.
Concur what has been stated about Beach road, I think the key to take out from Beach Road is hotel location. I normally stay in Soi 6 which is quite some distance to cover either on foot and the hassle of always having to use transport. As has been mentioned, if one shops the Beach Road this can be an exhausting having to move between shopping point and hotel.
Therefor, my next trip I am contemplating getting a hotel located in Soi 13/1, which will be closer to where the girls are, I'm pretty sure this will give me more time and subsequently, choice. This will insure a short walk with one's darling to the love nest. Short of staying in PS Guesthouse, LOL, would any of you seasoned gents know of a comfortable hotel on this charming Soi 13/1? I have trolled the hotel thread some pages back to no avail, perhaps one has to search deeper.
You will find most girls congregated at the junction, beach side, enabling the use of PS Guesthouse, a very short walk. This is the thick of the action, with a pretty short stroll to walking st.
Concur what has been stated about Beach road, I think the key to take out from Beach Road is hotel location. I normally stay in Soi 6 which is quite some distance to cover either on foot and the hassle of always having to use transport. As has been mentioned, if one shops the Beach Road this can be an exhausting having to move between shopping point and hotel.
Therefor, my next trip I am contemplating getting a hotel located in Soi 13/1, which will be closer to where the girls are, I'm pretty sure this will give me more time and subsequently, choice. This will insure a short walk with one's darling to the love nest. Short of staying in PS Guesthouse, LOL, would any of you seasoned gents know of a comfortable hotel on this charming Soi 13/1? I have trolled the hotel thread some pages back to no avail, perhaps one has to search deeper.
You will find most girls congregated at the junction, beach side, enabling the use of PS Guesthouse, a very short walk. This is the thick of the action, with a pretty short stroll to walking st.I have stayed at Dynasty Inn soi 13. It's close to 2nd Road and not much of a walk to Beach Road.
Crazy4Thai
01-02-14, 02:11
I just stayed at Inn House on Soi 13. Easy walk to the BR action. This hotel is about 10 years old and a bit overpriced at 1700 on Asia Rooms. I used to stay there for 800 baht. No breakfast included. Internet mostly good but not always. Did borrow a hot water pot for my morning coffee in the room. Easy to walk to Soi Metro so it's a good location. Next time I'd perhaps stay in the Metro area instead for better value and 5 more minutes of walk.
I also used to stay at SA Guesthouse on 13/1 for 400 baht including breakfast. It was an ok clean basic room but that too was 10 years ago. No net back then. You might just walk in and inquire there depending on your tolerance for good but "no frills". No lift. But it's only 4 flights total.
Pointy Stick
01-02-14, 08:24
Concur what has been stated about Beach road, I think the key to take out from Beach Road is hotel location. I normally stay in Soi 6 which is quite some distance to cover either on foot and the hassle of always having to use transport. As has been mentioned, if one shops the Beach Road this can be an exhausting having to move between shopping point and hotel.
Therefor, my next trip I am contemplating getting a hotel located in Soi 13/1, which will be closer to where the girls are, I'm pretty sure this will give me more time and subsequently, choice. This will insure a short walk with one's darling to the love nest. Short of staying in PS Guesthouse, LOL, would any of you seasoned gents know of a comfortable hotel on this charming Soi 13/1? I have trolled the hotel thread some pages back to no avail, perhaps one has to search deeper.
You will find most girls congregated at the junction, beach side, enabling the use of PS Guesthouse, a very short walk. This is the thick of the action, with a pretty short stroll to walking st.Noble guesthouse is good. Get a room facing away from the street with a balcony.
Concur what has been stated about Beach road, I think the key to take out from Beach Road is hotel location. I normally stay in Soi 6 which is quite some distance to cover either on foot and the hassle of always having to use transport. As has been mentioned, if one shops the Beach Road this can be an exhausting having to move between shopping point and hotel.
Why would hotel location matter? One should never bring a girl back to one's own sleeping room (use short time rooms), and one should always rent a motorbike when in Pattaya (only 100-200 baht per day, an incredible value).
How was the quality on Beach Road? I hit Beach Road 2-3 times in December, and there was absolutely nothing worthwhile. Just a bunch of skanks
Yes, I just have sex with skanks, to be honest. Anything else is out of my price range in Thailand (and anyway non-skanks won't do any kinds of good service).
Wolvenvacht
01-02-14, 19:47
Why would hotel location matter? One should never bring a girl back to one's own sleeping room (use short time rooms), and one should always rent a motorbike when in Pattaya (only 100-200 baht per day, an incredible value).Surely, you jest Mr. Opebo? Why is the vast majority of hotels in Pattaya guest-friendly? Riding a motorbike in Pattaya is for the more suicidally-inclined and for 200 baht you can use a songthaew twenty times. Or perhaps you like to subsidize the policemen's retirement fund?
Thanks to you too. Lucky I'm always nice to the girls this why manyby I have always a good time with them, and I'm not old and not a fatty one. So I can't wait to try it out how it was for me.
I will report it then here.I have another club for you to try. A very reputable source, ex-patt, tells me a club named "Club 4" is even better than Carre Blanc. Google says this club has been around for some years but has been closed for various reasons.
The owner is also french and possibly the same owner of the Care Blanc club.
It is located here:
http://goo.gl/maps/QGWMs
The setup. Very nice curtained off reclining booths with full mirrors. Have a shorttime room too. Someone posted in Sept that the place beats the hell out of Carre Blanc, Bliss, and Telephone booth hands down (more classy looking). The girls wear school-girl uniforms without anything on underneath.
Pics courtesy of google. Anybody else been here?
Naked Gunz
01-03-14, 08:55
Last time I shopped the Beach was at the end of 2012. I found 19 and 20 year olds all 4 times I tried over a two month period, but I had to put a ton of leg work in. The last time it took more than 45 minutes of walking around. .This has been my motis for years. Get in a work out while looking for a stunner, or at least, has my physical taste. Beach Road. 2nd Road. WS. I actually have shifted my stalking grounds to Africa.
I like big T-TS and wide hips. Its there in abundance. I don't have to walk to find it, just go online. No BF, runners, starfish or over worn p*ssy. And best of all not a million tourist or expats to dodge and duck.
Enjoy all that in LOS gents, I'll be over here relaxing and shagging.
The idea of being able to nip out onto Beach Road shopping for talent at my whim is very appealing, being the greedy guts, then take them back to my room where I am comfortable having never had any strife in the six or so years of touring Thailand or any troubles from the girls. I do not carry valuables apart from the laptop and travel light. Maybe I have been lucky or suss the girls out pretty well; if I were in Africa then obviously apply more diligence, I have had amusing escapades with the the big girls of Africa.
The thought of having to take care of a moto is not appealing to me at all, I ride in London and recently the lovely neighbors darling terrorists pushed my great love over damaging her, causing me great anger and the stress of having to take care of a moto parked out on the street is no fun. Beautiful people about. A friend recently had his bicycle stolen in Pattaya, I would rather not ride a moto in Thailand, have done in the past, but the reasons have been covered by other members, Opebo.
Thanks for the feedback gentlemen, Noble Guesthouse, I will look into this one Pointy Stick, as well as the other suggestions.
Fawn The Guyver
01-03-14, 18:36
Wow thanks, and it is realy cool from you that you posted where it is too.
I will go and visit this club then.
Again T H A N K S.
I have another club for you to try. A very reputable source, ex-patt, tells me a club named "Club 4" is even better than Carre Blanc. Google says this club has been around for some years but has been closed for various reasons.
The owner is also french and possibly the same owner of the Care Blanc club.
It is located here:
http://goo.gl/maps/QGWMs
The setup. Very nice curtained off reclining booths with full mirrors. Have a shorttime room too. Someone posted in Sept that the place beats the hell out of Carre Blanc, Bliss, and Telephone booth hands down (more classy looking). The girls wear school-girl uniforms without anything on underneath.
Pics courtesy of google. Anybody else been here?
Fawn The Guyver
01-03-14, 19:11
Because of the Google Maps idea I have play a bit around hand I have make the NAV point for the clubs mention before.
Carré Blanc.
http://goo.gl/45MTZU
Club 4 (thanks to Ehunter)
http://goo.gl/maps/QGWMs
The Telephone Club.
http://goo.gl/maps/AF0SJ
I would sugest that in future when a nice hiden spot is found it should be posted like this so everyone can find it.
FTG
Fawn The Guyver
01-04-14, 15:32
And here is the map info for Devil's Den.
http://goo.gl/maps/lx0x4
www.devilsdenthailand.com
Wolverine,
I have heard your comments many times but could not determine where in Africa? I have never been to the Dark Continent. I am ready to go but don't know where. Your help is much appreciated. Thanks.
Funman13.
Prostitution is over long ago in Thailand as economy developed. Now mostly old ladies ans this about it. Other way is to find a girlfriend. Still from overall tourist experience Thailand is the most safest and the most pleasing destination in the world.
Forget Susua go to Africa it the origin, good only for sex Marathon, otherwise Thailand wins (hotels, food, sightseeing etc).
Member #4178
01-06-14, 21:00
Wolverine,
I have heard your comments many times but could not determine where in Africa? I have never been to the Dark Continent. I am ready to go but don't know where. Your help is much appreciated. Thanks.
Funman13.The first time visitors goes to Kenya or Ghana. For kenya specifically Mombasa. You can stay on north coast beach or The village of Mtwapa. (Mtwapa is part of Mombasa district and is simpler to sosua)
After Kenya you may try Madagascar which outperform Kenya for the food, the girls altitude, and sightseeing. Again for non stop fucking go to mombasa. No short time concept so for 20 dollar you can take her for 24h or more.
Assuming you have been locked in prison for 10 years and just went out I may suggest Mombasa as first stop and then Thailand.
Thanks Wolverine. I will start reading up on the places you suggest. I hope to make a trip sometime this year. Keep in touch.
surely, you jest mr. opebo? why is the vast majority of hotels in pattaya guest-friendly? riding a motorbike in pattaya is for the more suicidally-inclined and for 200 baht you can use a songthaew twenty times. or perhaps you like to subsidize the policemen's retirement fund?i hire a scooter (not motorbike) every time i go to pattaya and have had no traffics accident problems in all my visits. there is always a first time i guess though. i have had a few 'interesting' incidents (road rage, etc) , and i have had to pay a few fines to the cops. usually no licence. my fault.
why do i do it? the sheer freedom of being able to hop on a bike, be at a bar or beach road within minutes, and be in a position to whisk a girl off to my room from wherever instantly. oh, and tremendous fun.
i hate to under-spend mr o****, but i have never paid more than 150 baht per day for a bike.
I am a regular visitor to Soi 6, and have been used to paying the standard 700 + 300 baht charge. On my last visit I noticed more girls were asking 1000 + 300, and I have heard it suggested that this is now the going rate? Any comments?
And what does that make the going rate for LT? Previously I was paying 1500. 1800 + bar fine, and didn't have any complaints. I am reluctant to up this as 2500 baht total starts to seem relatively expensive for a Soi 6 girl.
Member #4698
01-07-14, 03:05
I am thinking of renting a bike in Pattaya for a couple of days. Normally I wouldn't need too, but I want to check out some bars on the Dark Side and I am thinking my own transport is the best way to do it.
JesseJames
01-07-14, 05:00
i hire a scooter (not motorbike) every time i go to pattaya and have had no traffics accident problems in all my visits. there is always a first time i guess though. i have had a few 'interesting' incidents (road rage, etc) , and i have had to pay a few fines to the cops. usually no licence. my fault.
why do i do it? the sheer freedom of being able to hop on a bike, be at a bar or beach road within minutes, and be in a position to whisk a girl off to my room from wherever instantly. oh, and tremendous fun.
i hate to under-spend mr o****, but i have never paid more than 150 baht per day for a bike.hope you have travelers insurance and notify the embassy about your next of kin information.
LuvAsianTang
01-07-14, 05:10
I am thinking of renting a bike in Pattaya for a couple of days. Normally I wouldn't need too, but I want to check out some bars on the Dark Side and I am thinking my own transport is the best way to do it.If you do rent a bike then you have to assume that they will cut in front of you go accross 2 lanes to turn right in front of you, fill the half space with a whole bike in front of you and stop immediately for no seemingly good reason after doing all of the above. And I'm talking about the expats not the thai people. Thais are worse. But I've never let that stop me from renting a bike in Thailand every year for over 25 years. If you do get into a fender bender and it's not your fault, don't under any circumstances, let them move either vehicle. I've had two accidents both a thai persons fault and the first time I let the bike taxi move his bike out of the way for traffic purposes and he made it look like it was my fault. I ended up paying for both our bikes and my hospital. The second accident I had to jerk the keys out of the ignition so she couldn't move the van and the police saw that it was her fault so she paid everything.
The freedom of a bike and the fun factor are both good reasons to rent a bike. I rent from a british man across from the rome hotel on thappraya road on the way to jomtien. His prices are good and he carries the bigger bikes. One of them for sure has a truck air horn that comes in handy. I usually pay 150 / day.
Anyway have fun and drive fast and furiously. LAT
I am thinking of renting a bike in Pattaya for a couple of days. Normally I wouldn't need too, but I want to check out some bars on the Dark Side and I am thinking my own transport is the best way to do it.There are very often police check points around town where they pull up riders (and pax) not wearing crash helmets. (circa 400 Baht fine). It's not the fine so much as the pain in the
Ass paying it! Unless you come to some sort of 'arrangement' of course!
I would always recommend wearing a helmet in any event, due to the appalling driving standards.
Although you rarely need to show a driving licence to rent a motor bike these Police check points, especially if manned by the Tourist Police, usually ask to see your Driving Licence.
You technically need an International Driving Permit if you don't have a Thai licence.
There are very often police check points around town where they pull up riders (and pax) not wearing crash helmets. (circa 400 Baht fine). It's not the fine so much as the pain in the
Ass paying it! Unless you come to some sort of 'arrangement' of course!
I would always recommend wearing a helmet in any event, due to the appalling driving standards.
Although you rarely need to show a driving licence to rent a motor bike these Police check points, especially if manned by the Tourist Police, usually ask to see your Driving Licence.
You technically need an International Driving Permit if you don't have a Thai licence.Let me add that there might be also occasional "don't drink & drive" alcohol tests. Some speculate that it is a nice way to increase the revenue of the local police station, rather than supporting th, e "drive safely" campaign and that the test is a bit. Dodgy and in favour of the police.
Whatever the reality is, apart that it is not recommended to D&D, this adds another factor to the "don't drive or don't ride" suggestions (if you are a farang).
An offence on D&D is far more troublesome than the fine for the lack of a crash helmet (I second Bonker, riding a scooter in Thailand is dangerous by default and an helmet is a must) or the lack of proper documents.
It will result in being deteined in the police station, be release thorugh a significant bail (30k be. I have heard) paid by a local, seizeing of passport etc. So not really recommended.
Rule #1 is that the farang is guilty.
You guys will worry yourself into an early grave.
Of course have travel insurance, wear a helmet and carry your licence. And don't drive if you are incapable. Otherwise a scooter is absolutely fine.
The police checkpoints tend to be within easy walk of the police station on Beach Road and Second Road. Always the same spots. If you are carrying your licence and wearing a helmet it is unlikely to be a problem. I have never seen or heard of a drink drive campaign. I suspect if you are obviously drunk the police will arrest or fine you, and quite rightly so. In practice the traffic police are gone by dusk, and have better things to do.
ConquerorVal
01-07-14, 17:43
But 150. 00 $ for a long time is nothing you can get outside of certain SEA countries, or a few southamerican ones.Fair enough. The concept of long time is very much a sex tourist destination concept. I was referring more to a two shot couple of hours experience. North American working girl services differ very much from service provided in destinations such as Thailand, Philippines, Sosua-DR. Its just some of the costs quoted in the Thai thread appear to me to be inching toward first world prices.
ConquerorVal
01-07-14, 17:56
I would say be careful. It is a time of year quirk.
That is, as long as you are experienced with the Dominican hustle and you take well to big ass girls it may be worth it to you. Also the travel costs & stress from Canada can't even compare. The Thailand disneyland sex scene is hard to match at any price though. You can only hang in the DR for so long though so Thailand carries another big advantage.Personally, I have found tourist touts in Egypt and Morocco much more difficult to deal with than the Dominican hustle. In DR you absolutely have to be cautious with the girls, and lock up your valuables while keeping mostly sober, but otherwise than that its ok. In my Sosua experience I had no problems finding nice tight, young, small assed spinner type bodies. I would not fuck big assed chicks. Travelling to Sosua from Toronto is about four hours for less than half the cost than Thailand. You are absolutely right about not being able to hang out in Sosua for very long, but DR as whole has more to offer-not as much as Thailand though. Thailand is truly the magic sex scene disneyland. Cannot dispute that.
Can anybody here comment on the amount of tourists? Getting a lot of emails from state dept. About impending doom; I arrive on the 17th. Also wondering if they are raising prices with the baht losing strength against dollar.
Thanks
Can anybody here comment on the amount of tourists? Getting a lot of emails from state dept. About impending doom; I arrive on the 17th. Also wondering if they are raising prices with the baht losing strength against dollar.
ThanksWhy would they? The average Thai girl is not currency trading. It matters not a jot to her what the exchange rate is (unless the price of rice goes up, and that is controlled by the state). And of course they didn't drop prices when the baht was strong.
I am a regular visitor to Soi 6, and have been used to paying the standard 700 + 300 baht charge. On my last visit I noticed more girls were asking 1000 + 300, and I have heard it suggested that this is now the going rate? Any comments?
And what does that make the going rate for LT? Previously I was paying 1500. 1800 + bar fine, and didn't have any complaints. I am reluctant to up this as 2500 baht total starts to seem relatively expensive for a Soi 6 girl.I got this one or two times on my last visit in late 2012 and I walked to other places. For ST 1000 is the price, all inclusive, too many options to pay more than that.
Came across the "42 tips on the dangers of Pattaya". Most interesting I thought was the last where someones sister was trampled by an elephant. I guess one can never relax.
http://www.virtualtourist.com/travel/Asia/Thailand/Central_Eastern_Thailand/Pattaya-1449746/Warnings_or_Dangers-Pattaya-TG-C-1.html
Mr Enternational
01-10-14, 00:54
Also wondering if they are raising prices with the baht losing strength against dollar.There is no reason for prices to be raised. Then Thais could not afford Thailand. They use baht. The only thing prices will be raised on are things like gold where the market price is in US dollars. Also, things that are imported that dollars are used to pay for will take more baht to buy. The bright side is that my rent has gone down. 4500 baht used to be $150, but now it is $136! If this keeps up then I might buy a condo.
Hey mr Enternational,
Got to remember dollars pay for fuel and fuel prices affect everything nevertheless I was just wondering.
See you on the beach!
Thanks
ConquerorVal
01-11-14, 06:05
Pattaya-the Quickie bar-Soi 6.
Barely made it halfway through Soi 6 when I decided to go inside this bar, as so far the girls did not look that good. I was out at about 5:30 pm. There were couple of guys sitting there so I decided to go and have a drink. Most importantly the girls there at the time were the nicest looking-just to find out that one was married to one of the guys in the bar and the other was a girlfriend of the manager. Both men were very nice and helped me settle. Of course this place still had other decent looking young gals. But by sitting at the bar, I did not get approached by the girls, that were at the front. I guess I could have gone and ask, but I did not get the vibes. Later, after a second beer, a girl came to me pushed by another girl with a smoking body, Now this girl had a nice body too, and looked a little older-25 years old name Toni. After a while I told her I liked kissing, and eating pussy, as she seemed to be focusing mostly on the part of giving a blow job. Asked her what she does, she said everything. She was asking 1000 baht for the service (+300 for room). I knew it was on he high end but the fact she was willing to provide certain services I wanted, I accepted. Went upstairs to the boom boom room-not her own. Had a quick basin wash with her and then started with a major DATY that made her cum. She did a very fine BBJ. During this time she was giving nice DFK. Completed the session with a really nice cowgirl position. The great service and generally nice attitude of the girl made this a memorable experience. She also allowed me to take pictures of her naked-first time for me.
Walking Street.
Left for Walking Street at around 10:00 pm. I was able to see the famous characters and landmarks I have only seen on Youtube before. After walking up and down the street couple of times, I decided to check out Baccara. I was not impressed by the quality of the girls, and the show was mediocre. Also, the waiters were very pushy asking you to buy more drinks all the time. It just felt like an expensive strip bar, and none of the girls seemed to show any interest in me. I had one drink and left somewhat depressed. Next stop was Living Dolls which had a much better selection of girls. Again, I was just left sitting all by my lonesome-starting to miss the more aggressive Sosua girls. Eventually, a girl sat beside me and then another one came. The girl I settled for was named Ping who said she was 22, but I think she was older. After buying her few lady drinks, I asked her how much for LT. She said 4000, and I said no way. Eventually, she went down to 2000. The bar fine was 1000. After leaving we stopped off at the walking street bar-with the car on the side of the wall, which was enjoyable, and then back to the hotel. This is where I realized again that one is never too old to make an idiot of himself. This girl was cuddly and all, but even a blow job had to be covered. CBJ in Pattaya? She did provide a decent cowgirl fuck, but overall I was really disappointed. In the morning I took her down for breakfast as the hotel provided free breakfast for one guest and I was anxious to get rid of her. I did not even attempt to waste a second load on her, which I should be entitled for with LT. Better save it for someone else today. Another shocker was that she did not allow me to take a photo of her with clothes on. WTF. I know I should have negotiated all this before, but who would have thunk. CBJ and no photos with clothes on. Aside from getting another notch on the bedpost-all in all a disappointing experience on Walking Street. Soi 6 felt more relaxed and enjoyable.
Soi 6 felt more relaxed and enjoyable.Good to meet you last night.
My advice - Stick with Soi 6! You know what you are getting.
I wandered back to my favourite bar last night after we parted company and picked up a nice young thing for the night. She was very sweet, and very shy because she had some stretch marks on her tummy. We solved the problem by turning down the lights, and getting down to business. She was keen to wrap herself around me all night, which meant I suspect that neither of us had a good night's sleep. Up early in the morning for round 2, paid her off, and she strolled back to her apartment 2 minutes away.
ConquerorVal
01-11-14, 11:10
Good to meet you last night.
My advice. Stick with Soi 6! You know what you are getting.Really nice meeting you too! I am working on my day 2 report, and so far I think Walking Street is a bit overrated. Tonight will visit other parts of town.
Really nice meeting you too! I am working on my day 2 report, and so far I think Walking Street is a bit overrated. Tonight will visit other parts of town.Walking Street is undoubtedly now a 'tourist attraction', with all the stuff that goes with it. A freelancer who charges 500 bht ST on Beach Road suddenly charges 1000 bht ST as she enters Walking Street. I rarely go into walking street nowadays, although there are a few attractions. I still enjoy the shows in Angel Witch, there are some raunchy bars, and there is undoubtedly some good eye candy about.
Today was 'School Child Day', or something, and the traffic was crap. I was heading for the Beer Garden for breakfast on my scooter and gave up in disgust around Pattaya Klang.
There was a party opposite my favourite bar in Soi 6 this evening and the noise was unbearable, so I moved on down. I met and remet a SYT at 'Sexy in the City', who explained that she was heading off to Hollywood Disco at 11pm. I went for an early session with her, which not only was extremely good, but also enabled me to catch the second half of Spurs vs Coventry. 1-0 to me and 2-0 to Spurs. Great results all round!
I decided to check out Baccara. I was not impressed by the quality of the girls, and the show was mediocre. Also, the waiters were very pushy asking you to buy more drinks all the time.Can you blame them though?
I bet all the bars get their share of a-holes that walk in, sit, take up space, and oogle at the girls for 30 minutes, and then they just git up and leave never having spent a dime in the place. This is the nature of many guys who monger and those guys spoil it for everybody else.
If I owned the joint I would make sure anyone who sits does spend money, else they get the boot. If they drink slow, fine, just as long as they did spend money and do not nurse their drink for too long.
Can you blame them though?
I bet all the bars get their share of a-holes that walk in, sit, take up space, and oogle at the girls for 30 minutes, and then they just git up and leave never having spent a dime in the place. This is the nature of many guys who monger and those guys spoil it for everybody else.
If I owned the joint I would make sure anyone who sits does spend money, else they get the boot. If they drink slow, fine, just as long as they did spend money and do not nurse their drink for too long.I see where you are coming from but the push is often taking place when you still have some drink left or you just finished one.
I don't mind paying to stay and I understand drinking is the bar revenue. But they are acting just like willing to put a drink hose into your mouth so you dorm stop drinking.
Can you blame them though?
I bet all the bars get their share of a-holes that walk in, sit, take up space, and oogle at the girls for 30 minutes, and then they just git up and leave never having spent a dime in the place. This is the nature of many guys who monger and those guys spoil it for everybody else.
If I owned the joint I would make sure anyone who sits does spend money, else they get the boot. If they drink slow, fine, just as long as they did spend money and do not nurse their drink for too long.You would lose this bet because although there are no cover charge for bars, the unwritten rule is that you will have to buy a drink if you want to sit for 30 minutes. I have never seen anyone just enter, take up space and not buy a drink. I have seen people nurse their drink or finish their drink and still stay in the bar as the one drink minimum rule applies.
GettingTang
01-12-14, 05:36
I see where you are coming from but the push is often taking place when you still have some drink left or you just finished one.
I don't mind paying to stay and I understand drinking is the bar revenue. But they are acting just like willing to put a drink hose into your mouth so you dorm stop drinking.I agree! I like to drink slow, not because I'm cheap, but rather I don't want a night of whiskey dick when I get back to my room and I like to simmer a good buzz, not get falling down drunk and lose my wits about me. They do tend to shove the drinks at you. I once ordered a beer, told the server I like to drink slow, gave him 150 baht tip. He nodded at me and left me alone for a good hour while I sipped my beer. When I lift, I dropped another 80 baht on the table.
ConquerorVal
01-12-14, 06:55
I see where you are coming from but the push is often taking place when you still have some drink left or you just finished one.
I don't mind paying to stay and I understand drinking is the bar revenue. But they are acting just like willing to put a drink hose into your mouth so you dorm stop drinking.Yes, exactly that is what I really meant. My drink was quarter full when I was asked by at least two different waiters if I wanted another drink. Also, I was barely 15 minutes in the bar.
ConquerorVal
01-12-14, 07:07
Pattaya-Day2.
After getting rid of Ping, I decided to have a shower and go out to check the Honey 2 massage parlor and the surrounding area of Soi Buakhao. As previously noted the viewing area of the ladies and the whole set up is quite classy and clean. There were about a dozen of the average girls and 4 of the younger set sitting in a separate section. These were for 3, 000 baht. Unfortunately, the last one was taken couple of minutes after I arrived. Apparently, new better quality girls were to arrive at 5:30 pm. I was really disappointed with another missed opportunity, so I walked around aimlessly without much success (yeah, I know how can one have no success in Pattaya-it gets worse) It was about 2:30 pm and pretty well giving up until this evening, I decided to walk toward my hotel across Beach Road. Lo and behold, I saw this cute as a button young number working the street. I gave her a smile and walked past to consider my next move. I decided to go back and chat her up. Within couple of minutes of my indecision another punter was talking to her but thankfully left. This girl named, Ann spoke better English than most of the Thai people I have met in Thailand. She is 20 years old, has got the cutest smile, had a kid when she was barely 18 and is working to pay for her cost of living and support her son and family (her story). Today was her first day at work after being away at home for a month. She asked 800 baht for ST, which given her cuteness was justifiable. She turned out to be as sweet in bed. Slim body, with a little bit of stretchmark, and small breasts. Great kisser with DFK, nice BBJ, came through DATY and finished off in a cowgirl position. Good thing I saved the load from my previous encounter. For a little extra she allowed for naked photos.
Later in the evening I connected with one of the ISG members who was kind enough to give me a bike ride to Soi 6, one of his favorite hang outs. We checked out some of the places on the Soi and eventually parted our way. He stayed on Soi 6 and I headed out home planning to check out Walking street later at night. My plan was to visit the Windmill and or seek freelancers. Unfortunately, I made one bad decision after another. Should have stayed at Soi 6 and go back to the bar I visited yesterday, should have said hi back to the pretty girl that greeted me at a Beach road bar, should have taken the other girl at the Windmill, and should not have stayed there until 3:00 am. One misstep after another and I ended up going home alone. One word about Windmill. Place is really small and all the girls appeared to be sick coughing. There were times when the place got exciting and other times it was bordering on being empty. Watching some girls insert objects inside them and a guy eating a girl at his seat was pretty cool. I am not sure what to think of the place, but have not ruled out another visit. The girl I chose was cute but lame.
Can you blame them though?
I bet all the bars get their share of a-holes that walk in, sit, take up space, and oogle at the girls for 30 minutes, and then they just git up and leave never having spent a dime in the place. This is the nature of many guys who monger and those guys spoil it for everybody else.
If I owned the joint I would make sure anyone who sits does spend money, else they get the boot. If they drink slow, fine, just as long as they did spend money and do not nurse their drink for too long.I have never been to a bar in Pattaya that allows guys to sit and not buy anything. I have seen them throw Middle Eastern guys out for trying that.
Hey Val,
Thanks for your report and glad you enjoyed Windmill. Its my favorite go go and I can't wait to get back there.
Roll on April!
Sir Lancelot
01-12-14, 19:07
I will be in Pattaya in March and would like to visit some more of the massage parlours during the day. Last year I had good experiences at Sabai Dee, Honey 1, Honey 2 and Dream Teen but I would be interested in hearing about any other options. Rasputin seems to get mentions. Any more?
Incidentally, here were my findings about Pattaya's massage parlours from last March:
1. Sabai Dee: 2nd Road near Big C. Girls 2000 or 2400 baht. L-shaped fishbowl. 50 girls at 9pm. The talent was mixed but some strong contenders.
2. Honey 1: located on Soi 11 off 2nd Road (nearly opposite Mike's Shopping Mall). Girls 2000 or 2500 baht. 25 girls at 4. 30pm, talent levels similar to Sabai Dee.
3. Honey 2: a few blocks from Sabai Dee on 2nd Road. Girls priced at 1800 and 2200 baht. 35 girls at 6pm (there were 50 girls when I left 90 minutes later). Despite the prices being the cheapest I visited in Pattaya, the quality of the girls was the highest in my opinion.
4. Dream Teen: Soi 21 off Soi Buakhao. Genuine massage shop where you get extras afterwards. 10 girls at 5. 20pm. Talent was average but a few were cute (definitely not teens though!). I had an excellent oil massage for 400 baht. The extras were hand-job 500, blow-job or body-to-body 1000 or 'all three plus boom-boom' 1500 baht.
5. Devil's Den: Soi LK Metro, off Soi Diana. Threesomes. 3600 baht for two hours with two girls (and multiple pops). Just 10 girls at 6pm but more from 8 onwards. Girls generally older than places listed above but some pretty ones and far more likely to get porn experience. Girls can be pre-booked from website.
The first 3 offer soapy massages, Dream Teen is more a regular massage parlour with 'extras' and Devil's Den is a threesome / fetish place. I took a girls in each place and they delivered great service.
I have never been to a bar in Pattaya that allows guys to sit and not buy anything. I have seen them throw Middle Eastern guys out for trying that.How about 20 years ago? I think it is a process of evolution which is why things are run the way they are now. F
ConquerorVal
01-13-14, 06:29
I will be in Pattaya . would like to visit some more of the massage parlours during the day.I am trying to take a page from your Pattaya handbook and go to a massage parlour every day before I start drinking too much. This guarantees that I get at least one pussy a day. Saw some stunning girls when checking out several soapies last night.
ConquerorVal
01-13-14, 06:45
After last evening's disappointment and poor judgment, I decided to start the day with a sure bet and visited Honey #1 Massage. Lot of the ladies were quite buxom and large, not to my taste and only one girl was sitting on the special 3000 baht sideline. I decided to choose the skinniest fairly nice looking girl for my first soapy experience. Apparently, Indian men like the more well endowed, curvy ladies. The massage was 2500 baht. I was asked if I wanted anything to drink, and I said water only please. To my surprise it was not free and the waiter insisted on a tip. A bit of a turnoff. Don't order anything to drink, unless you really have to! The girl was 27 years old, Chinese / Thai mix with a skinnier body than I first thought. Her name was Tzaina? (sounds like China) , spoke decent English and relatively friendly. She had the smallest boobs I have seen so far, (not even a mouthful) but I am not a breast man, so it did not matter. While the water was running for the tub she trimmed my toenails and fingernails. It was like a salon experience. The wash, body massage was well done and professional, but it lacked sexual intimacy. When it came down to the nasty, she did not kiss and the blow job was covered. When I went down on her, her excitement sounded a little bit fake. Nice girl, but I would not repeat a visit. CBJ?
Determined not to repeat yesterday's mistakes, of course I ended up doing even worse. Went to my favorite bar on Soi 6 at around 6:00 pm to start my evening early. The girl I had a session with couple of days ago was there and since I liked her company I decided to hang out with her for a while and what I thought arranged a hook up with her friend. Not rushing I decided to hang around having few drinks which ended up to be too many by the end of the evening. My friend kept telling me that the girl I was interested in was not going with the guy buying her drinks, only to find out she was bar fined by him for long time. I was pissed off to no end, had few more drinks and that was the end of the evening, waking up in my hotel room with few bruises. I suspect I fell down somewhere, but cannot recall it. Blacked out by having too much of that smooth Hong Thong. Not my proudest moment. I have to go back to the bar before I leave Pattaya as I am not sure if I paid the bill. Should be interesting.
I will be in Pattaya in March and I would be interested in hearing about any other options. 5. Devil's Den: Soi LK Metro, off Soi Diana. Threesomes. 3600 baht for two hours with two girls (and multiple pops). Just 10 girls at 6pm but more from 8 onwards. Girls generally older than places listed above but some pretty ones and far more likely to get porn experience. Girls can be pre-booked from website.
The first 3 offer soapy massages, Dream Teen is more a regular massage parlour with 'extras' and Devil's Den is a threesome / fetish place. I took a girls in each place and they delivered great service.I did two visits to devil's den 3600B for 90 minutes with two girls. First session was great second not so good. They have well equipped rooms, all with love swings and the girls bring quite a few toys or will play with yours. In both session the girls catered to soft S&M activities (my favourite). (Kind of) recommended!
ConquerorVal
01-13-14, 07:56
To make sure I was going to get some pussy today, I started by going for lunch and massage at Soi LK Metro. Outside a particular massage parlor (Aree I think-beside Cannon Massage) , I saw a cute little spinner who I decided to pick and have for breakfast which I slept through. Her name was Ba, she was 24 but looked 18 and wearing braces. Massage was 200 baht and full service was 800 baht. DATY; BBJ boom boom went all quite well. Money well spent. Will try to seek similar deal first thing tomorrow.
Being in a pretty rough shape, I took it easy and decided to check out the beer bar scene-place called Buppha, which at the time had a nice looking girl hanging out. Ordered couple of beers before three friendly countrymen showed up. The bar server introduced us and the evening was set. The guys wanted to look at the talent in the big soapies like Sabai Dee; Honey 1. There were some pretty attractive girls, but the boys just wanted to look. Instead the plan was to visit some additional beer bars. We settled at Lisa Bar, that seemed to have the nicest girls. If you buy a lady drink, the girl sits and gyrates on your lap. Not a bad deal. Three of the four present decided to choose long time including me. My girl was 24, cute and with braces. (2 girls with braces in one day) She also seemed to be the most energetic, friendliest and drinking her drinks the fastest. Lisa Bar has a 500 baht barfine and all the girls asked 3000 baht for LT. After all of us decided to get something to eat we went to check out a go go bar (I think it was called Beach Club) and my girl started to fade rapidly. Decided to leave the other two couples and we headed back to my hotel. She kept indicating that she wants to go to sleep, which was not a good sign. I was not going to pay her to sleep in my bed. She even tried to ask for money before anything happened. Yeah right. After undressing she did get pretty extensive pussy licking which she really enjoyed. A little BBJ and a pretty well spirited cowgirl. After that it was lights out, until she woke up at 7:30 am with a hangover. Even though she said last night she was going to stay until 9:00 am, I told her she can go now. Gave her some Advil for a headache and showed her out the door. Did not bother with getting any action from her in the morning. It seems both of my LT experiences disappointed somewhat. The value was poor, and service mediocre, and as much as I like to cuddle to a nice young body, I was glad when my girls left. Unless you have chemistry with the person, speak a little Thai or girl speaks English, LT could be a let down.
ConquerorVal
01-13-14, 10:18
Hey Mouse1 your private message mail box is full.
It seems both of my LT experiences disappointed somewhat. The value was poor, and service mediocre, and as much as I like to cuddle to a nice young body, I was glad when my girls left. Unless you have chemistry with the person, speak a little Thai or girl speaks English, LT could be a let down.A girl with a hangover is never going to be fun in the morning. I'm a lightweight, so drinking a lot is not smart for me either. I think one of the biggest mistakes is to go drinking with the girls after you have bar-fined them. I've seen it too often: the girls get smashed and tired, you get tired, you might end up with some crap sex at 3am before she throws up, she won't perform in the morning, but you still feel obliged to pay the agreed money.
Come out with me tonight and I guarantee you a good time!
After last evening's disappointment and poor judgment, I decided to start the day with a sure bet and visited Honey #1 Massage. Lot of the ladies were quite buxom and large, not to my taste and only one girl was sitting on the special 3000 baht sideline. I decided to choose the skinniest fairly nice looking girl for my first soapy experience. Apparently, Indian men like the more well endowed, curvy ladies. The massage was 2500 baht. I was asked if I wanted anything to drink, and I said water only please. To my surprise it was not free and the waiter insisted on a tip. A bit of a turnoff. Don't order anything to drink, unless you really have to! The girl was 27 years old, Chinese / Thai mix with a skinnier body than I first thought. Her name was Tzaina? (sounds like China) , spoke decent English and relatively friendly. She had the smallest boobs I have seen so far, (not even a mouthful) but I am not a breast man, so it did not matter. While the water was running for the tub she trimmed my toenails and fingernails. It was like a salon experience. The wash, body massage was well done and professional, but it lacked sexual intimacy. When it came down to the nasty, she did not kiss and the blow job was covered. When I went down on her, her excitement sounded a little bit fake. Nice girl, but I would not repeat a visit. CBJ?OK, a bit like my experience at Honey. I went for a 2000bht girl. I didn't order a drink, but was asked if I would get one for the girl. No problem; she had water for 60bht, and I was asked for a tip. I was rude enough to say no. As you say, the wash and body massage was curiously non sexual! But I relaxed into it and enjoyed it for what it was. The BJ would have been covered but to me that is worse than no BJ, so I didn't really bother, although she did a few mouthfuls immediately prior to insertion. No complaints. Ticked off my list.
A girl with a hangover is never going to be fun in the morning. I'm a lightweight, so drinking a lot is not smart for me either. I think one of the biggest mistakes is to go drinking with the girls after you have bar-fined them. I've seen it too often: the girls get smashed and tired, you get tired, you might end up with some crap sex at 3am before she throws up, she won't perform in the morning, but you still feel obliged to pay the agreed money.
Come out with me tonight and I guarantee you a good time!LOL, still fell obligated to pay? You have no choice but to pay. The Thai girl will call the police if you do not pay. Yes they will come and she will get her money. My friend who has been going to Thailand wanted o see what would happen if he dot pay due o service. She called the police. It was either pay or to the police station to handle it. He decided to pay. Don't mess with thai girls. But actually any country when you refuse to pay the girl I think bad things with happen.
ConquerorVal
01-13-14, 12:27
A girl with a hangover is never going to be fun in the morning.Words of wisdom.
.Lisa Bar, that seemed to have the nicest girls. If you buy a lady drink, the girl sits and gyrates on your lap. Not a bad deal. Three of the four present decided to choose long time including me. My girl was 24, cute and with braces. (2 girls with braces in one day) She also seemed to be the most energetic, friendliest and drinking her drinks the fastest. Lisa Bar has a 500 baht barfine and all the girls asked 3000 baht for LT.Ridiculous price, no? I thought beer bars were supposed to be cheaper than go-gos.
Is Pattaya still worth visiting next month on my holiday? I read on other forums that things have changed there. Beach road has been cleaned of girls, maybe locals try to make Pattaya a more family oriented place and clean the prostitution from there. Also thai girls in the north are now more and more educated and have many other options for working than going to bars in Pattaya. And this has led to the quantity and the quality of the girls there going down. And the age maybe +10 years higher. So bad development for mongers?
Wolvenvacht
01-13-14, 21:24
Is Pattaya still worth visiting next month on my holiday? I read on other forums that things have changed there. Beach road has been cleaned of girls, maybe locals try to make Pattaya a more family oriented place and clean the prostitution from there. Also thai girls in the north are now more and more educated and have many other options for working than going to bars in Pattaya. And this has led to the quantity and the quality of the girls there going down. And the age maybe +10 years higher. So bad development for mongers?Don't believe a word of it. There are still more girls in Pattaya than you will be able to fuck even if you live to be 120. I never had any problem to find someone to my liking.
Ridiculous price, no? I thought beer bars were supposed to be cheaper than go-gos.They saw them coming and they got ripped.
Is Pattaya still worth visiting next month on my holiday? I read on other forums that things have changed there. Beach road has been cleaned of girls, maybe locals try to make Pattaya a more family oriented place and clean the prostitution from there. Also thai girls in the north are now more and more educated and have many other options for working than going to bars in Pattaya. And this has led to the quantity and the quality of the girls there going down. And the age maybe +10 years higher. So bad development for mongers?Yes, you are correct. There are only about ten girls left in Pattaya, all aged about 50, charging exorbitant prices. I have no idea why tens of thousands of guys keep coming here each year.
No, wait: Beach Road is heaving with girls, the bars and clubs are booming, and it is as fun as ever.
LOL, still fell obligated to pay? You have no choice but to pay. The Thai girl will call the police if you do not pay. Yes they will come and she will get her money. My friend who has been going to Thailand wanted o see what would happen if he dot pay due o service. She called the police. It was either pay or to the police station to handle it. He decided to pay. Don't mess with thai girls. But actually any country when you refuse to pay the girl I think bad things with happen.That is absolute crap.
I rarely negotiate a price beforehand, and usually pay afterwards what I think is a fair rate based on service, time, etc, and I have rarely had any complaints. When I have they can usually be sorted out with a smile, an explanation, or a compromise.
I am certainly not advocating not paying an agreed price, but if you agree LT and the girl comes back to your room and passes out, who would expect you to pay 3000bht or whatever? You have every choice of what to pay.
Don't forget that prostitution is illegal in Thailand, so the girl will not call the police. And I think it highly unlikely that the Police would have any interest in sorting out a private matter between you and the girl.
I agree that if you [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off the girls big time, then they may have other ways of getting their own back. I wouldn't know.
GettingTang
01-14-14, 04:44
Is Pattaya still worth visiting next month on my holiday? I read on other forums that things have changed there. Beach road has been cleaned of girls, maybe locals try to make Pattaya a more family oriented place and clean the prostitution from there. Also thai girls in the north are now more and more educated and have many other options for working than going to bars in Pattaya. And this has led to the quantity and the quality of the girls there going down. And the age maybe +10 years higher. So bad development for mongers?If Pattaya or Bangkok thinks they can rid itself of it's nightlife and girl action and sustain themselves on family tourism, well, then vegas should close down all its casinos and do the same thing. It would be about equal results. And neither is going to happen in our lifetime.
15% of Thailand's economy is sex tourism. Yeah I know they report lower numbers like about 10, but it's higher. They save some face when they report those numbers.
Paul Kausch
01-14-14, 05:20
15% of Thailand's economy is sex tourism. Yeah I know they report lower numbers like about 10, but it's higher. They save some face when they report those numbers.I've never read a report or heard a claim by any knowledgeable person that tourism contributes as much as 10% to Thailand's economy. Six percent is a typical figure, and that is total tourism of which sex tourism is a very small percentage. Look at how many tourists are in Bangkok during the high season. Look at how many of them are sex tourists. As a percentage, not very many.
I've never read a report or heard a claim by any knowledgeable person that tourism contributes as much as 10% to Thailand's economy. Six percent is a typical figure, and that is total tourism of which sex tourism is a very small percentage. Look at how many tourists are in Bangkok during the high season. Look at how many of them are sex tourists. As a percentage, not very many.Well, there is this one:
www.wttc.org/site_media/uploads/downloads/thailand2013.pdf
Although I agree that most sources quote 6+ percent. I've seen the ratio on male:female visitors quoted at 2:1 which would imply that at least one third are sex tourists (perhaps). That is a pretty large number in financial terms.
And of course most of the sex industry in Thailand is geared towards the local population, which again presumably has some economic impact.
Anyway, just saying that I can't see the authorities making any real effort to close down the sex industry in Pattaya or elsewhere. It seems to be flourishing next to the scene of Pattaya as a (Russian) family holiday resort!
Paul Kausch
01-14-14, 06:53
Well, there is this one:
www.wttc.org/site_media/uploads/downloads/thailand2013.pdf
Although I agree that most sources quote 6+ percent. I've seen the ratio on male:female visitors quoted at 2:1 which would imply that at least one third are sex tourists (perhaps). That is a pretty large number in financial terms.
And of course most of the sex industry in Thailand is geared towards the local population, which again presumably has some economic impact.
Anyway, just saying that I can't see the authorities making any real effort to close down the sex industry in Pattaya or elsewhere. It seems to be flourishing next to the scene of Pattaya as a (Russian) family holiday resort!Don't want to argue about the size of the sex tourist industry. I think NGOs with a vested interest exaggerate its size. Your link appears to be to a document by a credible organization. Bottom line, I agree with the point you are making. The sex industry in Pattaya, Bangkok and elsewhere is going to be tolerated for the foreseeable future. The USA is a bit more hypocritical and inconsistent. San Francisco is cracking down on massage parlors claiming the women working in them are sex slaves, which may be true for a small percentage of the women working in a few establishments. Southeast Florida has a flourishing strip club industry with obvious prostitution rampant within the clubs. No one cares. Recently a fourteen year old got caught in one of the clubs. That caused a ruckus. The club got shut down. Otherwise the industry continues to thrive. Fortunately Thailand has a sensible attitude. The ladies choose to go into the business. The men choose the ladies. The ladies accept. Services rendered. Money exchanged. Everyone's happy. Capitalism at its best!
ConquerorVal
01-14-14, 07:02
Started the morning by going for a walk on the Beach Road heading for someplace to get lunch with a sea view. My subsequent plan was to get a cheap massage with the works. All of a sudden a girl jumps out from the beach and gives me an enthusiastic welcome. It was my favorite freelancer-20 year old Ann. I could see she was glad to see me. During all my trials and tribulations I have to say she is my nicest encounter. I guess a change of plans had to be put in effect and I decided to have her come to my hotel for a quick session. Not disappointed, Ann gave a fantastic BBJ with CIM. Exchanged email addresses, facebook information and arranged for a second session for tomorrow. She'll be coming to the hotel early tomorrow afternoon for some boom boom time. Surprisingly she allowed me to take photos of her giving me head-for a little extra baht of course. After finishing our session she almost forgot the money, but did actually forget her earnings, that I returned to her couple of hours later after finally getting my lunch. Ann always stays in the same spot so it was easy to find her.
Returned to my room to get some much needed down time. By now, with all the drinking, lack of sleep and late nights, I am starting to feel like I have been burning the candle at both ends. Had similar experience in Sosua last August.
Met up with my countrymen at 7:00 pm for a few beers, and headed out to visit other Soi 7, 8 bars. Did not see anything special and it was already around 10:00 pm. Couple of the fellows decided to go home while me and another monger opted to check out go go bars at Soi LK Metro. Visited the Emerald, Champagne, Office and eventually settled for Bachelor Go Go which had some decent girls. It was around 12:00 and according to some of the girls, they did not manage to even get one lady drink. My friend found a hot little number while I picked a little bit plainer type in hope of better, more GFE service. There were two other girls trying to get my business at the same time, so deciding which girl to take was not easy. Again the outrageous 1000 baht bar fine and 3000 baht for long time. We decided to bite the bullet and go for it. After taking a moto taxi to my hotel we got into my room and it became clear that I would not be able to communicate with her, as her English was non existent. She seemed to be really shy and I started to get the impression this was going to be another disaster. After undressing we both got under the sheets. She barely grabbed my cock and started asking for a condom. When I asked her to give me a BBJ she did not seem to understand. From all of my three failed long time attempts, none of the girls I got from the go go bars went for a shower prior to the nightly activities. Everyone else I met had a shower or two. I have been reading on this thread about how clean Thai girls are. Well none of these three girls fit the profile. What are the odds. Not to compare, but this business of not taking a shower before the doing the nasty has never happened during my last mongering trip to Sosua. Seeing a total waste of time with this girl I gave her few baht and basically told her to leave. She seemed ok with it. It was only 2:45 am, so I headed to the Walking street with the goal of getting a freelancer for short time. Did not take very long and picked up a pretty nice girl on the street for short time at 800 baht. Had a great DATY session with her after of course she took a long shower (before and after) and really good cowgirl ride. This girl was pretty tight and had to use k-gel to lubricate. Thank goodness for freelancers, another disappointing evening in the making was averted. Will not try anymore long time during the remainder of my visit here. Hope to have better luck next time.
It was only 2:45 am, so I headed to the Walking street with the goal of getting a freelancer for short time.Call me Mr Boring, because that is what I am, but I was fast asleep and well sated, with a freshly-showered Sweet Young Thing from Soi 6 curled up next to me, while you were prowling the streets! Avoid the go-go girls!
Seriously, the best advice is probably don't do LT until you have tested the waters with a ST.
See you later.
ConquerorVal
01-14-14, 09:20
Avoid the go-go girls!
Seriously, the best advice is probably don't do LT until you have tested the waters with a ST.
See you later.You are so right and I am so obtuse. Must be old age. How many failures does it take for me to finally get it? Looking forward to seeing you. Want to go to a go go bar-just kidding.
GettingTang
01-14-14, 17:20
I've never read a report or heard a claim by any knowledgeable person that tourism contributes as much as 10% to Thailand's economy. Six percent is a typical figure, and that is total tourism of which sex tourism is a very small percentage. Look at how many tourists are in Bangkok during the high season. Look at how many of them are sex tourists. As a percentage, not very many.If you read closer, I said the figures are self=reported by Thailand. Hence, the "saving face"
If you're a guy and you tell ANYONE here in the states you're going to Thailand, they immediately think you're going for sexual reasons.
The ratio of male visitors to Bangkok is over 2:1. That pretty much sums it up right there. And keep in mind, lots of swinger type couples go to Thailand. Lost of lesbian women go, to play with the girls too.
Even those business men who go for legitimate business reasons will most often dabble in some nightlife fun on the side.
There is a reason the Thai government looks the other way and the reason is money. If the sex trade was completely done away with in all of Thailand, I'm guessing you would see at least a 20% drop in tourism overnight and it would dwindle from there.
Sit back and visualize Bangkok itself with the lack of free sex, no shows, no gogo bars, no massage parlors, no free lancers, no places to go and just grab a girl and really ask yourself, would you still go to Bangkok? Just to go?
Paul Kausch
01-14-14, 19:55
If you read closer, I said the figures are self=reported by Thailand. Hence, the "saving face"
If you're a guy and you tell ANYONE here in the states you're going to Thailand, they immediately think you're going for sexual reasons.I don't know what percent of the Thai economy is attributable to tourism. I've always read and heard 6-7%. I think it is very difficult to calculate how much of that is sex tourism. I don't trust the figures from NGOs. Their incentive is to exaggerate. Whatever it is, I think it's considerably less than half. But I'm not going to argue the point. I'm no expert and I don't care.
We all know there is a significant sex industry in Bangkok and especially Pattaya, and elsewhere in Thailand. There are cities where you can find it, but don't even notice it if you're not looking carefully. In Bangkok it's apparent in a few locations; in most part of Bangkok it doesn't seem to exist, but still can be found in some of these other neighborhoods. It is conspicuous seemingly everywhere in Pattaya.
I've traveled to Thailand on business for a couple of decades. On almost every trip I've sampled a little or a lot of the sex industry. During the same time period I traveled to many other cities in other parts of the world and sampled the local sex industry. The sex industry is everywhere; has been forever; and always will be. In Pattaya's case it was a tiny fishing village that got turned into a big bordello by the US military in the mid 1960's. Got a few buddies who can tell stories about trips to Pattaya on leave in 1968. Can't imagine Pattaya without the sex industry.
GettingTang
01-14-14, 20:18
Started the morning by going for a walk on the Beach Road heading for someplace to get lunch with a sea view. My subsequent plan was to get a cheap massage with the works. All of a sudden a girl jumps out from the beach and gives me an enthusiastic welcome. It was my favorite freelancer-20 year old Ann. I could see she was glad to see me. During all my trials and tribulations I have to say she is my nicest encounter. I guess a change of plans had to be put in effect and I decided to have her come to my hotel for a quick session. Not disappointed, Ann gave a fantastic BBJ with CIM. Exchanged email addresses, facebook information and arranged for a second session for tomorrow. She'll be coming to the hotel early tomorrow afternoon for some boom boom time. Surprisingly she allowed me to take photos of her giving me head-for a little extra baht of course. After finishing our session she almost forgot the money, but did actually forget her earnings, that I returned to her couple of hours later after finally getting my lunch. Ann always stays in the same spot so it was easy to find her.
Returned to my room to get some much needed down time. By now, with all the drinking, lack of sleep and late nights, I am starting to feel like I have been burning the candle at both ends. Had similar experience in Sosua last August.
Met up with my countrymen at 7:00 pm for a few beers, and headed out to visit other Soi 7, 8 bars. Did not see anything special and it was already around 10:00 pm. Couple of the fellows decided to go home while me and another monger opted to check out go go bars at Soi LK Metro. Visited the Emerald, Champagne, Office and eventually settled for Bachelor Go Go which had some decent girls. It was around 12:00 and according to some of the girls, they did not manage to even get one lady drink. My friend found a hot little number while I picked a little bit plainer type in hope of better, more GFE service. There were two other girls trying to get my business at the same time, so deciding which girl to take was not easy. Again the outrageous 1000 baht bar fine and 3000 baht for long time. We decided to bite the bullet and go for it. After taking a moto taxi to my hotel we got into my room and it became clear that I would not be able to communicate with her, as her English was non existent. She seemed to be really shy and I started to get the impression this was going to be another disaster. After undressing we both got under the sheets. She barely grabbed my cock and started asking for a condom. When I asked her to give me a BBJ she did not seem to understand. From all of my three failed long time attempts, none of the girls I got from the go go bars went for a shower prior to the nightly activities. Everyone else I met had a shower or two. I have been reading on this thread about how clean Thai girls are. Well none of these three girls fit the profile. What are the odds. Not to compare, but this business of not taking a shower before the doing the nasty has never happened during my last mongering trip to Sosua. Seeing a total waste of time with this girl I gave her few baht and basically told her to leave. She seemed ok with it. It was only 2:45 am, so I headed to the Walking street with the goal of getting a freelancer for short time. Did not take very long and picked up a pretty nice girl on the street for short time at 800 baht. Had a great DATY session with her after of course she took a long shower (before and after) and really good cowgirl ride. This girl was pretty tight and had to use k-gel to lubricate. Thank goodness for freelancers, another disappointing evening in the making was averted. Will not try anymore long time during the remainder of my visit here. Hope to have better luck next time.Thanks for sharing these detailed reports! Keep them coming. I for one really appreciate and enjoy reading such reports.
I don't know what percent of the Thai economy is attributable to tourism. I've always read and heard 6-7%. I think it is very difficult to calculate how much of that is sex tourism. Their incentive is to exaggerate. Whatever it is, I think it's considerably less than half. But I'm not going to argue the point. I'm no expert and I don't care.If the sex tourism amounts to more than 10 percent of Thai tourism I would be amazed. And I would include in that guys who sneak off for an hour away from their GF.
Except for concentrated sex areas, Sukhumvit, Pattaya (increasingly being overtaken by non-sex tourists) and small parts of Phuket, sex tourism is a minor contributor to the Thai economy.
Count the tourists away from Soi Nana on Sukhumvit and count the mongers on Soi Nana. 20. 1 genuine tourists.
747 and A380s are bringing shed loads of tourists in to Thailand for non-mongering holidays. Next time you fly walk down the 'plane and count the potential sex tourists. 1 in 10 would be generous.
This is historically true. And genuine mongers are moving more to other countries bored with lazy Issan girls thinking they are film stars.
Paul Kausch
01-14-14, 20:26
If the sex tourism amounts to more than 10 percent of Thai tourism I would be amazed. And I would include in that guys who sneak off for an hour away from their GF.Scorchin,
Personally, I think your guesstimate is more in line with reality; however, if a person's only exposure to Thailand was Pattaya, they'd probably think the country is one big bordello. I think the point of this discussion was not so much the size of the industry but its durability. I think most of us agree Thailand's sex industry is not going to diminish, let alone disappear.
GettingTang
01-14-14, 20:59
Scorchin,
Personally, I think your guesstimate is more in line with reality; however, if a person's only exposure to Thailand was Pattaya, they'd probably think the country is one big bordello. I think the point of this discussion was not so much the size of the industry but its durability. I think most of us agree Thailand's sex industry is not going to diminish, let alone disappear.I think the real question we all want to know, is will there come a day when this industry is gone from Thailand?
Yeah, I know, it's the world's oldest profession and can be found in any country. However, there is no place like Thailand. The openness, the variety, a BJ, bar, various massage types, Thermea coffee house, Eden club, nana, and so on. It all leads to the appeal of a one of a kind experience. It's like the bar scene in star trek, it's a bit of a freak show and we mongers love it. It's walking into a bar where everyone knows you're they to pay for some pussy and no one cares and fully supports your actions. It's a little bit of a series of unique experience rolled into one place and essentially at your finger tips that makes it so great.
I am instinctually more attracted to blonde hair, blue eye'd bright pink pussy on very fair skin. I can get that on trips to Russia. Why do I still chose Thailand over this? Because of what I wrote above. The overall experience can't me mimicked or imitated anywhere. I hope it lasts for many years to come!
Wolvenvacht
01-14-14, 21:08
I think the real question we all want to know, is will there come a day when this industry is gone from Thailand?Nothing is eternal. Even the dinosaurs disappeared and they were around for more than 160 million years.
(snip) It's like the bar scene in star trek, (snip)I think you mean Star Wars
I have to break with tradition and side with Kouch on this one. I think you really need better data and someone who knows how to crunch numbers.
If you read closer, I said the figures are self=reported by Thailand. Hence, the "saving face"So how much face are they saving and by what percentage and why? Thais' don't consider sex a bad thing, just the roaches from the north that they're forced to endure to keep sex areas humming. And remember, its ALL cash and who's tracking that and how?
If you're a guy and you tell ANYONE here in the states you're going to Thailand, they immediately think you're going for sexual reasons.Hardly evidence of anything and not 'anyone'. I'the wager 70 percent of Americans don't know Thailand from Taipei.
The ratio of male visitors to Bangkok is over 2:1. That pretty much sums it up right there. And keep in mind, lots of swinger type couples go to Thailand. Lost of lesbian women go, to play with the girls too.Sums what up? That most business travelers are male? I bet you don't even know many female business women traveling to Asia regularly and remember, Bangkok is a strong hub for Asian business and traveling business women are nonexistent from Viet Nam, Cambodia, Indonesia and other neighboring third world economies. Oh, and ever seen single female tourist in a go go? Insignificant at best.
Even those business men who go for legitimate business reasons will most often dabble in some nightlife fun on the side.So what category do they fall into? If there was no sex industry in Thailand they would still have to go though maybe less willingly. Its sex tourism you're trying to capture, not businessmen who have to be there anyway.
Sit back and visualize Bangkok itself with the lack of free sex, no shows, no gogo bars, no massage parlors, no free lancers, no places to go and just grab a girl and really ask yourself, would you still go to Bangkok just to go?No, but this is a sex board not a business traveler or tourist blog. You're sampling is a small square block radius relatively speaking. Thailand is a stable economy even if they can't get their democracy straight and urban sprawl and foreign investment is growing strongly and steadily. I bet most Thais' couldn't find cowboy on a map.
GettingTang
01-14-14, 23:14
Nothing is eternal. Even the dinosaurs disappeared and they were around for more than 160 million years.
I think you mean Star WarsOk, let me ask you this. On the whole, is the sex trade in Thailand growing or shrinking?
Mr Enternational
01-15-14, 04:16
Ok, let me ask you this. On the whole, is the sex trade in Thailand growing or shrinking?Who cares. You only have one dick. You can't fuck all of them.
ConquerorVal
01-15-14, 04:20
My Beach Road girl showed up as expected for our planned session. Looking sweet as ever, I decided for Ann's special-her awesome BBJ with CIM. Since it was painfully good and rarely provided by others to such a high level, I was thinking of saving boom boom time for later. Again Ann was stellar. Knowing that I was leaving tomorrow, I was expecting some sob story, and I was not disappointed. Something about sick son in a hospital and needing money with paying for the bill. I think I have already heard that story before. If anything working girls can be quite predictable and not very creative. I was planning to give her a little extra anyway for treating me better than most, so I was prepared for it. She stayed a little longer, sharing some personal information and her future goals. Good luck to her. After giving her few more bahts I bid farewell to her. This is just a reminder that the best thing is not to tell the girls when you are leaving, especially the repeaters. They will undoubtedly come up with some story trying to elicit more money from you.
After a relatively quiet afternoon I met up with couple of ISG members for dinner and hopefully some carousing. Decided to go to Soi 6, where I think The O Bar has the nicest girls at this time. But I still had to visit the Quickie bar to see if I paid the bill. Apparently I did, and did not cause any problems. I was relieved and promised to return later. After we walked around the Soi, where currently does not appear to be too much talent with the exception of O and few individuals in different bars, we decided to split up with me returning to the Quickie bar where I fittingly used the brief services of a lovely 26 year old Mai. Nice slim body, face and blondish hair?
After a wash she proceeded to perform a fantastic BBJ while I put my tongue, whose strength has significantly increased over the last few days to a good use. With my precious bodily fluids at an all time low, a numb, but hard (maybe TMI) member I decided that a blow job would be the best venue for me to arrive at a successful completion. Good choice, as this girl almost gave me brain aneurism, swallowing most of my load. Just like sweet young Ann. Few minutes after we settled in the bar, Mai's falang boyfriend came to pick her up on a bike. Go figure. All in all a very satisfactory day.
Mr Enternational
01-15-14, 04:24
Hardly evidence of anything and not 'anyone'. I'the wager 70 percent of Americans don't know Thailand from Taipei.You beat me to it Rj. Whenever I tell someone that I live in Thailand they say,"What's there?" And later on in the discussion refer to it as Taiwan. This has happened countless times. I think that because GettingTang has gotten used to being on the inside then he assumes that everyone on the outside knows what is going on in the inside too. That is far from the case.
A few months ago I was getting to know a woman who lives in my home city. One day out of the blue, she says I talked to my gay friend and now I know why you live in Thailand. I asked why. She said because you like those men who are dressed as women. I haven't said a word to her since. So because many ladyboys are in Thailand and I live in Thailand, her and her gay friend's common sense led them to believe... If that was the fucking case then there are a lot of ladyboys in my home city as well. Who would even need to go all the way to Thailand.
This is historically true. And genuine mongers are moving more to other countries bored with lazy Issan girls thinking they are film stars.Some other words also come to mind.
Lacking in talents or skills in bed. [Relative to PRC & Vietnam sex workers I've met in SG.
Rude.
Star fish.
Mechanical.
Not a GFE. Not into kissing.
Clingy.
Wolvenvacht
01-15-14, 08:05
Ok, let me ask you this. On the whole, is the sex trade in Thailand growing or shrinking?Since nobody keeps any official statistics, it is all guess-work. Over the many years of visiting Thailand, I did not see any significant long term change, but my experience is of course anecdotal. It looks there is more day-to-day change than long term change. You can compare it with weather and climate change: arctic storms in New York don't mean there is no global warming and the warm winter now in Europe doesn't prove there is global warming.
Some bars and clubs improve, other places decline. Your experience will be colored by the places you visited.
Crocodilexp
01-17-14, 21:28
Ok, let me ask you this. On the whole, is the sex trade in Thailand growing or shrinking?Nobody is keeping official statistics, but anecdotal evidence points to shrinking (at least for the Farang-oriented section of the industry). The scene is still huge and will remain so for a few more years, but there seem to far fewer new entrants to the market than just 5-8 years ago. You just don't see that many 20-22 year-olds these days. However, the established workers are NOT exiting in droves, and they're always the vast majority, and this leads many people to an impression that the scene is stable.
One thing I'm 100% sure about is that Sukhumwit and Pattaya Beach Road freelancer scenes pretty much took a nosedive compared to 5 years ago, let alone earlier times. Most sex workers these days are hardened pros, and finding low-mileage part-timers with a day job (or university students) is almost impossible. And it was somewhat common in the good old times.
LittleBigMan
01-18-14, 07:49
I do not look at it as growing or shrinking? To me it is revolving! The problem is for short time visitors you just don't have luxury of waiting for it to come around again? What is certain is if you are waiting for the price to drop or thinking about how it use to be don't hold your breath!
Any suggestion on a nice guesthouse w / a pool 500 plus baht range no joiner fee?
Thanks in advance!
Baron Von Booty
01-20-14, 00:29
Is Pattaya still worth visiting next month on my holiday? I read on other forums that things have changed there. Beach road has been cleaned of girls, maybe locals try to make Pattaya a more family oriented place and clean the prostitution from there. Also thai girls in the north are now more and more educated and have many other options for working than going to bars in Pattaya. And this has led to the quantity and the quality of the girls there going down. And the age maybe +10 years higher. So bad development for mongers?Hell yes. I was there in November 2013 and it's still paradise / heaven on Earth and far surpasses every other monger destination I've visited. And in November Beach Road promenade still had a free lancer practically next to every palm tree at the peak of the evening.
Is Pattaya still worth visiting next month on my holiday? I read on other forums that things have changed there. Beach road has been cleaned of girls, maybe locals try to make Pattaya a more family oriented place and clean the prostitution from there. Also thai girls in the north are now more and more educated and have many other options for working than going to bars in Pattaya. And this has led to the quantity and the quality of the girls there going down. And the age maybe +10 years higher. So bad development for mongers?Sounds about right. IMHO, Pattaya is a shadow of its former self. I predict within a few short years, it will not be worth the expense and trek to come out here for mongers.
To all of you on this forum who believe that Thailand in general and Pattaya in particular is going downhill; that the quantity and quality of the talent is diminishing; that the mongering scene is not as good as it used to be; (I've heard a lot of that sentiment lately here.)
let me just say that I've been living here six years now and this past year has been the best year of them all in terms of pure enjoyment of Thailand and Pattaya as a place to retire.
Last night I visited one of my favorite go-go bars, Baccara on Walking Street, and noted that the quality and looks of the girls has never been better. It just keeps getting better and better every year. I saw several absolute stunners downstairs and attractive new girls are coming all the time. It's like a conveyer belt full of lovely young girls that never ends and all of them can be had. Upstairs you'll find scores of young, cute and petite girl next door types that are particularly appealing to my tastes.
It's the same situation at all the Happy group of go-go's. Happy's lineup has improved vastly over prior years and there are dozens of pretty young girls to look and or bar fine, your choice. Beach Club is now far better than it ever was before. The place has been totally redone and the girls are outstanding. I like the Happy group bars because they have reasonably priced happy hours every night all year long from 8-9:30pm, and the bar fines, at 700 baht are still less than many other lower quality bars. As an older guy, I get a lot of enjoyment just watching the pretty girls. I don't have to be rutting them every single day like a sex starved tourist.
As far as overall mongering opportunities are concerned, I've not even scratched the surface of this town. Hell, I've not even been to all the joints on Walking Street, let alone the rest of what Pattaya has to offer. There are thousands of available hookers in all categories and price ranges from Jomtien to Naklua, Beach Road to the Dark Side, and all venues in-between. It's a cornucopia of pussy and new talent is arriving by the bus and trainload every single day.
I've observed several very attractive hookers hanging out on Walking Street who will go with you for less than half of what the Go-go girls want. Beach Road still boasts lots of skanks but you'll be surprised at how many young cuties can be found with a little effort. It's the same with Soi 6 and the beer bars; nice girls can be had for less than at the go-go's.
Then you have several choices of soapies, oilies, hole in the wall massage shops everywhere and BJ bars as well, some of which have decent looking experienced talent and new arrivals constantly. There is no way to partake of them all as there are just way too many mind boggling choices.
The weather has been beautiful this high season. The food is unbeatable anywhere and the prices, while rising over the last few years are far more reasonable than at any other comparable mongering or retirement destination on planet earth. I bought a nice high rise condo overlooking Jomtien Beach where I can watch the sun set every evening over the sea. I love it here and am living the good life on a lot less money that most people would ever think possible. As far as I'm concerned, Thailand and Pattaya are paradise on earth.
Now, of course, it hasn't been all honey and roses since I've been here, but none of the substantive problems I've had in Pattaya were caused by the Thai people. A fast lesson was learned, however, about the need to choose your friends carefully. There are all sorts of farang lowlifes to be found here that will turn on you like a viper at the slightest provocation. Aside from that one unnerving experience, life has been good for me here and I'm glad that I chose Thailand as my retirement home.
If any of you know of a better place to park, be sure to let us in on it, but for now I'm satisfied right where I am.
Regards, Daddy
I do not look at it as growing or shrinking? To me it is revolving! The problem is for short time visitors you just don't have luxury of waiting for it to come around again? What is certain is if you are waiting for the price to drop or thinking about how it use to be don't hold your breath!Did you mean evolving or are these little dizzier than ever?
But short time stay pleasure is what most here need, not wait and see. You guys that live there are different now. Like Sherlock Holmes you look at everything with a different eye and see things that visitors don't.
Why haven't you re-started an expat thread to share that perspective?
. It's like a conveyer belt full of lovely young girls that never ends and all of them can be had. There is no way to partake of them all as there are just way too many mind boggling choices.Hello Dad, this is exactly what I want to hear. I will be there next year for a conference. I assume that some of those choices include slim and busty? (. V.)
Nobody is keeping official statistics, but anecdotal evidence points to shrinking (at least for the Farang-oriented section of the industry). The scene is still huge and will remain so for a few more years, but there seem to far fewer new entrants to the market than just 5-8 years ago. You just don't see that many 20-22 year-olds these days. However, the established workers are NOT exiting in droves, and they're always the vast majority, and this leads many people to an impression that the scene is stable.
One thing I'm 100% sure about is that Sukhumwit and Pattaya Beach Road freelancer scenes pretty much took a nosedive compared to 5 years ago, let alone earlier times. Most sex workers these days are hardened pros, and finding low-mileage part-timers with a day job (or university students) is almost impossible. And it was somewhat common in the good old times.Yep, definitely shrinking and deteriorating from my recent observations. Pattaya is nothing but a shadow of its former self. I predict P4P in Thailand will no longer be worth the expense or horrendous travel to get there in a few short years!
To all of you on this forum who believe that Thailand in general and Pattaya in particular is going downhill; that the quantity and quality of the talent is diminishing; that the mongering scene is not as good as it used to be; (I've heard a lot of that sentiment lately here.)
If any of you know of a better place to park, be sure to let us in on it, but for now I'm satisfied right where I am.
Regards, DaddySince you are a respected contributor here, it is good to hear your take on Pattaya. It is especially good considering we hear much negative about living there. Do you go to restaurants often? Own a car or motorbike? I know eating out, especially at western restaurants, is fairly pricey in Pattaya. But to me it is part of the good life I hope to have in retirement.
Paul Kausch
01-21-14, 07:45
Since you are a respected contributor here, it is good to hear your take on Pattaya. It is especially good considering we hear much negative about living there. Do you go to restaurants often? Own a car or motorbike? I know eating out, especially at western restaurants, is fairly pricey in Pattaya. But to me it is part of the good life I hope to have in retirement.I've been looking at foreign retirement destinations for a while now. I live in the USA. Depending on your priorities there are options other than Thailand. If mongering is a high priority, Thailand is tough to beat. At this time it's where I'm planning to retire. Pattaya would not be my first choice, but I believe many guys would be very happy there. When I'm ready to make the move I plan to spend a few months in each of several different locations before I plant permanent roots.
Perhaps when I'm much older I'll no longer be interested in mongering. Then I might move somewhere closer to my children and grandchildren. Actually I hope I never lose my interest in mongering. I had a friend whose uncle had a severe heart attack. His doctor told him to give up sex. When he was released from the hospital he walked to his girlfriend's apartment, walked up several flights of stairs, started to have sex with her and died. My friend was certain his uncle planned to end it that way.
Lone Punter
01-21-14, 09:53
About to finish an over 6 months vacation in Pattaya, no doubt that the future is not bright for western guys. Of cause there will always be an excessive supply of providers but the type of tourists visiting the Holy City should worry most of us. The hordes of russians, by their sheer number only comparable to those of Dschingis Kahn are very unpleasant, they are mostly coming in couples or families, why can't these people just travel to Bulgaria or Turkey to get drunk? Chinese come in busloads, move in huge flocks. Indians worry me when I seem them hunting in packs (like they do in their homecountry) , make you really concerned for their prey and are certainly those who are most noisy on hotel floors as they use to communicate by shouting also in the middle of the night. All this seems to get worse from year to year and is certainly no good sign for the future.
GoaTony007
01-22-14, 12:59
Hi,
Can anybody tell me where I can pick mature MILF type women in Bangkok all the bar girls and go go girls and massage girls are in their twenties where can I get the 40+ women please help me as I want to be with a mature woman they are not rushing nor are they in a hurry.
Herd that bored sex starved Thai / expat housewife's hang around near mikes in Pattayya and Siam centre in BKK is it true.
About to finish an over 6 months vacation in Pattaya, no doubt that the future is not bright for western guys. Of cause there will always be an excessive supply of providers but the type of tourists visiting the Holy City should worry most of us. The hordes of russians, by their sheer number only comparable to those of Dschingis Kahn are very unpleasant, they are mostly coming in couples or families, why can't these people just travel to Bulgaria or Turkey to get drunk? Chinese come in busloads, move in huge flocks. Indians worry me when I seem them hunting in packs (like they do in their homecountry) , make you really concerned for their prey and are certainly those who are most noisy on hotel floors as they use to communicate by shouting also in the middle of the night. All this seems to get worse from year to year and is certainly no good sign for the future.OK, but what's your problem? I've just come back from a 10 day stay, and yes, there are more and more Russians, but they don't cause me any hassle, and they're certainly not competing for the girls. I didn't see any Chinese. Are you sure they weren't Korean or Japanese? And Indians I do think have some behaviour issues, but again not enough to cause me any problems. Perhaps you could choose a quieter hotel?
I had a ball.
OK, but what's your problem? I've just come back from a 10 day stay, and yes, there are more and more Russians, but they don't cause me any hassle, and they're certainly not competing for the girls. I didn't see any Chinese. Are you sure they weren't Korean or Japanese? And Indians I do think have some behaviour issues, but again not enough to cause me any problems. Perhaps you could choose a quieter hotel?
I had a ball.The Japanese, Koreans and Russians seen to stick along Beach Ave and Walking Street. Go inland a couple of blocks to Buakhao and it seems to transition more to Euros and Aussies but as Mouse 1 said "Ok, but what, s your problem?" I am here now having a ball also
Hi,
Can anybody tell me where I can pick mature MILF type women in Bangkok all the bar girls and go go girls and massage girls are in their twenties where can I get the 40+ women please help me as I want to be with a mature woman they are not rushing nor are they in a hurry.
Herd that bored sex starved Thai / expat housewife's hang around near mikes in Pattayya and Siam centre in BKK is it true.Bars in Soi 4 will have quite some MILF or aged ladies. Even if they look 30/35 they might be 40+, but they will never admit that, even undere torture. Just go past nana Park and you will see bars tight and left with ladies inside.
Whether they rush or not, is another story.
Enjoy and report back
It has been a good few years since I have been to Pattaya, can someone tell me what prices are being paid for the girls. Bar girls, Gogo girls, Long time and short time prices. Also I will be going there next week at the tail end of the high session do the prices paid change at all from the high to the low session?
Thanks in advance for any advise.
What is the current situation in Pattaya. Are the bars and hotels being overrun by people escaping the protests in BKK. Or are people staying away for the same reason. I'm thinking about a trip in Feb and want to get an idea of the current situation in Pattaya.
What is the current situation in Pattaya. Are the bars and hotels being overrun by people escaping the protests in BKK. Or are people staying away for the same reason. I'm thinking about a trip in Feb and want to get an idea of the current situation in Pattaya.I have the feeling some FL moved to Pattaya hoping for better pastures. Don't know of they found them greener, but for sure they thought so.
Does anybody know of any girls in Pattaya that do [CodeWord137] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord137) (hardsports)?
Please PM if you can.
Member #4698
01-25-14, 15:52
Does anybody know of any girls in Pattaya that do [CodeWord137] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord137) (hardsports)?Fetish Club 'BarBar' in Patpong, BKK is where you want to go.
http://www.barbarfetishclub.com/
I am sure they can and will satisfy all your cravings.
Does anybody know of any girls in Pattaya that do [CodeWord137] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord137) (hardsports)?
Please PM if you can.You might try The Castle, fetish & bdsm type. It's on 3rd Road, come up from soi chaiyapoon, turn right (go south) and maybe about 150m on your left hand side.
Mtg
Most people reading this probably already know, but as of yesterday afternoon, all the bars officially stop serving alcohol, and most of them closed their doors.
A small percentage of bars appeared to stay open serving customers with the lights off.
Presumably, this sad state of affairs will continue until at least the election next week.
Most people reading this probably already know, but as of yesterday afternoon, all the bars officially stop serving alcohol, and most of them closed their doors.
A small percentage of bars appeared to stay open serving customers with the lights off.
Presumably, this sad state of affairs will continue until at least the election next week.Bad bad info! Bars closed at 6pm and were to open at 2400 hrs next day, but around Soi Buakhao most had reopened mid afternoon, so not even a 24 hour closure. I am told the same closure for election day, so everything open till then.
Awesome Man
01-27-14, 04:45
What about February 14, then? It's some kind of Buddha Day. Does it mean that the bars are closed, even in Soi 6?
Not good for thai business anyway if they can't sell alcohol on Valentine's Day.
Mr Enternational
01-28-14, 18:16
Where can I hook up with mature women in Pattaya. Looking for the MILF type must be 40+ bbw if possible office going women, widows divorcees who are sex starved or charge for sex. Will be staying near selection Beach Resort, Beach road Any places close by.1) Walk out of your hotel and turn left. When you get to South Pattaya Road (Pattaya Tai) turn left. Immediately you will see a club/disco called Bamboo on the right.
2) All up and down the sidewalk on the beach side of Beach Road.
3) Go to any bar and ask for the mamasan.
RogerShinny
01-28-14, 18:18
1) walk out of your hotel and turn left. When you get to south pattaya road (pattaya tai) turn left. Immediately you will see a club / disco called bamboo on the right.
2) go to any bar and ask for the mamasan.Does the mamasan come out and what is her barfine double or what?
Me and my friend went to BKK last Aug. Took Cathay pacific flight. Met some couples. In the flight. We all have a very good long hour of drinking in the flight. Even the air hostess got frustrated and brought the alcohol cart near our seats and told us to what you want to drink & left. In morning after 4. 30 hr flight touched BKK airport. Swarbhumi. Land of pussy. Cleared immigration & took 2 bus tickets of Pattaya 135 baht. We both knew BKK very well as we go there every year. Pleasure. 1.45 h ride in bus slept 1. 30 h in bus. Then came Pattaya. Took tuk tuk 50 BT and stopped 2nd road soi 13/3. Stayed at privi suites 3 nights for 1200 BT per night. With bfast. Two queen size bed very big room with Jacuzzi in bathroom. A good deal. Went for Thai massage in soi bukhao for 100 BT each. In this parlour only massage is offered. I know them well. Ate in Indian restaurant. 200 BT total. Went in room and sleep. Woke up 6 pm got fresh took bath and took two mahapatiala and to beach road. My friend liked one girl and want for longtime. She told 2500 BT. Lt. 1000 BT st. As a Indian. Good bargaining begins and settled for 1000 BT Lt. But she want to go with me. My friend told me OK you take her I will find another. Soooo many more girls in Pattaya as you all know. I took miss be in the room & my friend went for his hunt. Gave her I'd at the counter. Precautions. In the room offered her drink. She took a small peg only. After 10 min talk she felt more comfortable. Second peg. Now she took mahapatiala same as mine. I asked her why RU so formal in first peg. She told me as we both don't know each other its better to stay formal first but you have a good heart that's why I am feeling comfortable now. OK for me. I told her you want one more which she accepted. In 30 min. 3 peg down. Showing effects. Shower together and on bed she rode me very well true gf. BJ. She told me you can do anything. For 1 hr we fk very well. I called my friend on phone to come to room. He also took a girl for 1000 BT Lt. I told my friend to enjoy with your girl in room and me & my girl is going walkingstreet. Meet us there when you done. After hour they also joined us. Went to disco. Danced had lot of fun. I went for my second round in room. Great fk. Even did anal this time. Gave 100 BT to the girls & told them go eat and meet us in hotel lobby in 30 minn. OK. We both went to Indian restaurant to eat. After reaching hotel girls are sitting in the lobby and returned 40 BT. Only 60 BT for their food. My friend for 2 and round and her girl went home. Lt means 2 shoots for her OK for my friend he don't mind. My girl slept with me in my bed. In morning one more shot cim. Gave 1ooo BT & she went. Gave her no. Took ours. Next day.
Where can I hook up with mature women in Pattaya.
Looking for the MILF type must be 40+ bbw if possible office going women, widows divorcees who are sex starved or charge for sex.
Will be staying near selection Beach Resort, Beach road
Any places close by.They are everywhere, freelancers on beach road at night, massage parlors specifically in & around walking streets & also look out for 'buakhao' area, just be keen-eyed to spot them in so many girls sitting in verandas. I was able to find some good matures out there but sorry no bbws. In regular soapy MPs you won't find any matures. Stay safe & have fun!
Mr Enternational
01-31-14, 15:39
Does the mamasan come out and what is her barfine double or what?They are always out. I don't know about any stinking bar fine. I have never paid one. All of the girls I have ever had from a bar, I have always gotten their number and had them come over during non-work hours so as to avoid a bar fine.
ConquerorVal
02-01-14, 00:29
took two mahapatiala and to beach road….Now she took mahapatiala same as mine.Nice report. Looking forward to the next one. But excuse my ignorance-what is Mahapatiala?
Nice report. Looking forward to the next one. But excuse my ignorance-what is Mahapatiala?+ 60 ml of alcohol is called mahapatiala in India.
After she left took more sleep and woke up 10.30 for breakfast. Me & my friend went to Privi hotel for breakfast. Which was good. We spend 1.30 h and went went to Soi Bukhao for oil massage 200 BT. Each. Felt really great and went to our room for shower and slept. Woke 3.30 pm and took tuk tuk 10 BT each to big C. Did some shopping and went to soapy massage parlor opp. Side of big see. Not many girls so went to Soi 6. Rome around there lots of Lbs. Started raining so took tuk tuk for the hotel. In room check end my phone 5 missed call from last night girl so called her she told if I want Lt. OK from me. After 15 min. She phoned me & said she was at reception so I went down. She gave her I'd. At counter & we went up. Littel drizzle outside so stayed in room & start drinking. Now she is more relaxed than yesterday so after 3 peg told my friend to go for a walk. He left and fun started totally gf everything in menu so did a hour fucking with her both satisfied. My friend called me & told him to come up. He went to lottita 700 BT BJ. He also got satisfied from their service. My girl start giving me some Thai massage and we had good time in our room. Went to walkingstreet in the night took dinner. She asked for 50 BT & went to eat near a food cart. After our dinner went to disco. Danced. Sooo many Lbs in wst. I went for 2 nd round in my room while my friend was exploring wst. My friend took a girl from beach road 500 BT st. Sleapt. One morning shot gave 1000 BT and she went. Happy. More to follow.
Cloud Cloud
02-01-14, 12:24
Has anyone encountered or know of any pregnant girls?
Has anyone encountered or know of any pregnant girls?There is a girl who advertised on CraigsList (BKK) who offered her services. Four or Five months pregnant. Not Thai but Filipino. So she said
ConquerorVal
02-01-14, 17:12
My last day in Pattaya was spent at the Sabai Dee soapy. Hoping for good experience and squeeky clean body for plane boarding, I visited the establishment in early afternoon. There were at least 20 girls available. I chose #28 which at the time seemed like the most attractive choice. The cost was 2400 baht. Even when I said I did not want anything to drink they brought me water and coffee for the girl, for which of course I had to pay. Things started of pretty well, with the bath, and the massage, but nothing exceptional. My previous experience at Honey Massage was much better and even that was not that great. During this time #28 asked me if I had a Thai girlfriend. I said no and then stupidly added I had a family. This became a bit of a game changer, and the quality of the experience quickly diminished. When on the bed I asked if I could eat her pussy, she said yes for 1200 baht. After seeing my reaction she went down to 1000 bath. I could not believe it. I don't remember if I have ever been asked to pay for DATY. I should be the one to be paid. It seemed that she did not want me to go down on her, so I went through the usual CBJ and cowgirl ending. As we were leaving the room and met other girls she got all cuddly. Quite a performance, and overall a disappointing experience. Interestingly during both visits to soapies the girls checked out my body, sort of like kicking the tires before buying a car. The first girl also asked me if I had anyone, and when I said yes, she declined to kiss me saying that kissing should be for my SO only.
One thing for sure, I should have not said anything about being in any kind of relationship. The service may have been better. Both experiences definitely not worth it! However, it was an apt ending for my overall impression of Pattaya. For an absolute worshipper of the East Asian female body, it is difficult for me to admit that Pattaya was a huge disappointment for me. I feel though I was the architect of my own demise. Coming with super high, if not unrealistic expectations, ill informed, unable to adapt, along with some bad luck and good old stupidity, by the time I was leaving Thailand, I felt that I did not want to see another Thai face or hear their whining language for a very long time. Of course, I will be returning next year and I am even seriously considering learning some Thai. At this point I have to say that the highlight of my trip to Pattaya was meeting some awesome and super stand up guys and not really the girls. For what its worth, I will post my thoughts on Pattaya and its girls shortly.
RogerShinny
02-01-14, 18:36
There is a girl who advertised on CraigsList (BKK) who offered her services. Four or Five months pregnant. Not Thai but Filipino. So she saidLight bondage no fucking no cunnilungus no BJ she only teases you and a hand job to end 3000 for 1.5 hrs.
My last day in Pattaya was spent at the Sabai Dee soapy. Hoping for good experience and squeeky clean body for plane boarding, I visited the establishment in early afternoon. There were at least 20 girls available. I chose #28 which at the time seemed like the most attractive choice. The cost was 2400 baht. Even when I said I did not want anything to drink they brought me water and coffee for the girl, for which of course I had to pay. Things started of pretty well, with the bath, and the massage, but nothing exceptional. My previous experience at Honey Massage was much better and even that was not that great. During this time #28 asked me if I had a Thai girlfriend. I said no and then stupidly added I had a family. This became a bit of a game changer, and the quality of the experience quickly diminished. When on the bed I asked if I could eat her pussy, she said yes for 1200 baht. After seeing my reaction she went down to 1000 bath. I could not believe it. I don't remember if I have ever been asked to pay for DATY. I should be the one to be paid. It seemed that she did not want me to go down on her, so I went through the usual CBJ and cowgirl ending. As we were leaving the room and met other girls she got all cuddly. Quite a performance, and overall a disappointing experience. Interestingly during both visits to soapies the girls checked out my body, sort of like kicking the tires before buying a car. The first girl also asked me if I had anyone, and when I said yes, she declined to kiss me saying that kissing should be for my SO only.
One thing for sure, I should have not said anything about being in any kind of relationship. The service may have been better. Both experiences definitely not worth it! However, it was an apt ending for my overall impression of Pattaya. For an absolute worshipper of the East Asian female body, it is difficult for me to admit that Pattaya was a huge disappointment for me. I feel though I was the architect of my own demise. Coming with super high, if not unrealistic expectations, ill informed, unable to adapt, along with some bad luck and good old stupidity, by the time I was leaving Thailand, I felt that I did not want to see another Thai face or hear their whining language for a very long time. Of course, I will be returning next year and I am even seriously considering learning some Thai. At this point I have to say that the highlight of my trip to Pattaya was meeting some awesome and super stand up guys and not really the girls. For what its worth, I will post my thoughts on Pattaya and its girls shortly.There is sometimes confusion in the names, Sabai Dee, Sabailand etc. I went to Sabai Room (has large Egyptian like pillars on building and is on 2nd Road around soi 3. My experience was similar and I would not return. I paid 2500 baht, she would not even let me touch her vagina and said no to DATY. All the time I was asking her she was massaging the outside of her vagina. I think we were out of the room within 40 minutes. Recommend to stay away. I also visited Honey 1 (2000 minimum, mamsan is very beautiful and young, I thought she was the best looking of all) and Honey 2 (1800 minmum) and would return to both, preference to Honey 2 (you can see Sabai Room across the street from Honey 2) both times DATY allowed and time would have been 60+ minutes.
There is sometimes confusion in the names, Sabai Dee, Sabailand etc. I went to Sabai Room (has large Egyptian like pillars on building and is on 2nd Road around soi 3. My experience was similar and I would not return. I paid 2500 baht, she would not even let me touch her vagina and said no to DATY. All the time I was asking her she was massaging the outside of her vagina. I think we were out of the room within 40 minutes.
Recommend to stay away.Or you can also try Dream Teen massage for more hardcore action and better value for your buck. They also offer outcall service so you don't even have to leave your room.
http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/ladies.html
ConquerorVal
02-02-14, 06:48
. More hardcore action and better value for your buck. They also offer outcall service so you don't even have to leave your room.
http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/ladies.htmlSounds like a pretty good option. Will definitely consider during my next visit. Thanks
Light bondage no fucking no cunnilungus no BJ she only teases you and a hand job to end 3000 for 1.5 hrs.And if she does outcall she brings her husband along as her escort. Incall is somewhere near the BKK airport. When I got her email describing all the nonsense you mentioned (and more) I passed.
Sounds like a pretty good option. Will definitely consider during my next visit. ThanksDon't pick Yo at Dream Teen, no boom boom, no BBBJ. Nice looking though and a good conventional massage. She mentioned something about pain. Love to brag about my big member but it's not like I'm something. Like those giant porn dicks. Ah well as ever YMMV.
Or you can also try Dream Teen massage for more hardcore action and better value for your buck. They also offer outcall service so you don't even have to leave your room.
http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/ladies.htmlI was there. In 3 words avoid avoid avoid. Chica wanted 700 extra for HJ, when I asked if clothes off she wanted an extra 300 be to take them them off, so now we up to to 1300 [300 for 1 hr massage) , I paid for the massage and left. So for only 500 more at honey 2. I got 60+ minutes a soapie and full service, far better bang for the baht IMHO
I was there. In 3 words avoid avoid avoid. Chica wanted 700 extra for HJ, when I asked if clothes off she wanted an extra 300 be to take them them off, so now we up to to 1300 [300 for 1 hr massage) , I paid for the massage and left. So for only 500 more at honey 2. I got 60+ minutes a soapie and full service, far better bang for the baht IMHOThat's one girl but there are places where the girls will ask for 1000 B for HJ. It's up to you to negotiate with them to get the best deal for yourself. I've always had a good deal from them so as with any other place YMMV.
To make sure I was going to get some pussy today, I started by going for lunch and massage at Soi LK Metro. Outside a particular massage parlor (Aree I think-beside Cannon Massage) , I saw a cute little spinner who I decided to pick and have for breakfast which I slept through. Her name was Ba, she was 24 but looked 18 and wearing braces. Massage was 200 baht and full service was 800 baht. DATY; BBJ boom boom went all quite well. Money well spent. Will try to seek similar deal first thing tomorrow.
Being in a pretty rough shape, I took it easy and decided to check out the beer bar scene-place called Buppha, which at the time had a nice looking girl hanging out. Ordered couple of beers before three friendly countrymen showed up. The bar server introduced us and the evening was set. The guys wanted to look at the talent in the big soapies like Sabai Dee; Honey 1. There were some pretty attractive girls, but the boys just wanted to look. Instead the plan was to visit some additional beer bars. We settled at Lisa Bar, that seemed to have the nicest girls. If you buy a lady drink, the girl sits and gyrates on your lap. Not a bad deal. Three of the four present decided to choose long time including me. My girl was 24, cute and with braces. (2 girls with braces in one day) She also seemed to be the most energetic, friendliest and drinking her drinks the fastest. Lisa Bar has a 500 baht barfine and all the girls asked 3000 baht for LT. After all of us decided to get something to eat we went to check out a go go bar (I think it was called Beach Club) and my girl started to fade rapidly. Decided to leave the other two couples and we headed back to my hotel. She kept indicating that she wants to go to sleep, which was not a good sign. I was not going to pay her to sleep in my bed. She even tried to ask for money before anything happened. Yeah right. After undressing she did get pretty extensive pussy licking which she really enjoyed. A little BBJ and a pretty well spirited cowgirl. After that it was lights out, until she woke up at 7:30 am with a hangover. Even though she said last night she was going to stay until 9:00 am, I told her she can go now. Gave her some Advil for a headache and showed her out the door. Did not bother with getting any action from her in the morning. It seems both of my LT experiences disappointed somewhat. The value was poor, and service mediocre, and as much as I like to cuddle to a nice young body, I was glad when my girls left. Unless you have chemistry with the person, speak a little Thai or girl speaks English, LT could be a let down.After two poor experiences at massage places I went looking for Ba at Aree Massage, upon arrival I asked for Ba and was directed to one massage place past Cannon Massage. The Ba there did not fit your description as young. I went back to Aree and then remembered you said she had braces, arriving back a young good looking one with braces walked outside. I must have had a big smile on my face and she reacted similar. I said are you Ba and she said "no" I am Baree. I said a good friend told me to come visit you, she said what was his name. I said "John" she said do not know John. We had a great session, when I said I would like "boom boom" I think her clothes were all off before I said the second boom. Thanks Conqueror Val aka John. Great Chinese / thai cafe next door to Aree
In morning one more shot cim. Gave 1000 BT & she left. Sleep and after waking went for breakfast at Privi hotel. Ate and went for oil massage. 200 BT each. Came back in our room took bath and took a nap. 2 pm went for shopping near hotel & saw a beauty who I know from my last visit in Pattaya. Talk to her & she remembered me. Last trip she took 1000 BT Lt. I asked her if she want to come for same amount & she is OK with 1000 BT Lt. Great. In the room a long reunion sex. Total gf. My friend took a lady 500 BT st from beach road. When they came in the room I thought something is wrong with my friend girl. She look as a Lb. Which she denied. OK told my friend to enjoy & we are waiting for you in hotel lobby. After 45 min. My friend called me to come in the room. In the room my friend lady left as soon as we reached. OK. Now my friend told me a real silly incident. He told me as you left the lady took off her clothes except panty. She gave me bath & cleans me. She not took bath. In bed she start very good bjj. I took off her panty to verify if she is he. Pussy. Got relaxed. Did a lot rimming. & told me if I want to do anal. Put condi fked her ass. Really hard pressed her boobs tightly. Cim. Done relaxed gave her 500 BT. Now surprise. She told my friend while leaving she is lb. She look so beautiful no pennies. OK. We all started laughing. We started drinking. I want to see TV. Remote is missing. Guess who stole. Got drunk & went to see sexshow. 600 BT for 3 of us. Good deal with one beer each. Nice tricky show. Went for dinner. She also like Indian food. 300 BT bill. Disco. Danced. Rome around. Went for 2 nd shot. Some anal sex massage everything. She treat me very good. My friend went for his catch. After an hour he came empty handed. I asked him why. He told me now every girl I see I got confused may she is Lb. OK. Slept. One morning shot gave 1000 BT. She went. Start packing for Bangkok. Now BKK.
Since Bangkok was overwhelmed with mobs I decided to go to Pattaya for 4 days until my best friend returns from Phuket.
I booked a standard roomatNova Platinum hotel on 23/1/2014 for 4 nights got a high rate 2800 Baht since it was high season and all people are leaving Bangkok.
Hotel room sucked although I was upgraded to what so called deluxe room.
First night went to Mixx club on the left side the Russian section I spotted a hot uzbeki girl but I played cool until she
Was taken and that was my mistake during this trip even I'm Bangkok and Phuket I became very picky to the extent thst some nights I went to my room solo.
Second night I said it was week end Saturday night them the shock all bars and clubs are closed cause election kn Sunday WTF only Marine Disco was open nothing impressive.
Third night I managed to pick a nicy horeny TG from Mixx she got her own car well educated and stayed with me till next day for 2500 Baht.
She wanted to meet me again took her no with intentiom to not to see her agajm and I regret it cause I did not find a nice bird for last night kn Pattaya what a shame.
ConquerorVal
02-04-14, 00:40
. a young good looking one with braces walked outside…. had a great session, when I said I would like "boom boom" I think her clothes were all off before I said the second boom.Good for you! She was a really sweetie. Thinking of her puts a smile on my face. I wish more girls would have been like her. It feels good to help a fellow monger.
Zeppelin029
02-04-14, 11:29
Or you can also try Dream Teen massage for more hardcore action and better value for your buck. They also offer outcall service so you don't even have to leave your room.
http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/ladies.htmlCan vouch. Went with? Bee when I was there. Not as attractive as her photo, maybe a 6 in real life. Unshaven, had what looked liked scars from wrist-cutting. However, she we got 2 shots for 2000 baht, though she started at 3k and I think tried to get me to believe I agreed to that at the end. Good performer, BBBJ, multiple positions, she came with twice (seemed legit and makes things more enjoyable for me). Massage in between sessions, and she even got us iced coffees from downstairs (I paid but dirt cheap for 50 baht for two). Good fun overall and the requisite limping out of the place.
Is it just me or do you guys also have this problem? The letters on their website are in PINK and I can't read them. Is there a way to "adjust" to screen to make them more legible? Thanks.
Or you can also try Dream Teen massage for more hardcore action and better value for your buck. They also offer outcall service so you don't even have to leave your room.
http://www.dream-teen-pattaya.com/ladies.html
Is it just me or do you guys also have this problem? The letters on their website are in PINK and I can't read them. Is there a way to "adjust" to screen to make them more legible? Thanks.They are in pink but readable. Depending on what system (mac / windows) and the version you're using you may need to go into your control panel, settings and adjust your display settings. Or you could just copy the text from the website and paste them in your word or word pad program to read it in black text. You could also do a Google search on this topic where you're bound to get more than a few viable suggestions.
Chris Long
02-05-14, 04:17
Does anyone have the contact information for Mr T taxi I seem to have lost it. I will be in Pattaya next month and need to arrange my taxi pick up from BKK.
Thanks,
Chris
Does anyone have the contact information for Mr T taxi I seem to have lost it. I will be in Pattaya next month and need to arrange my taxi pick up from BKK.
Thanks,
ChrisDeja Vu.
mr_ttaxi@hotmail.com
Shoebridge
02-06-14, 00:10
This is random, but I was reading a story about a guy marrying his PI bargirl, who he then took to Pattaya on vacation, and he said he wanted to take her to a Toro Toro show. I've googled it and can't figure out what it is, just in case I'm missing out on something awesome (or gross!) I figured I'd ask here. I've asked this in the Angeles thread as well, sorry for the double posting to those that see it twice.
Also, am headed to Pattaya in a couple of weeks. I've been there before, but one thing I wanted to know if it still exists. Are there any "shows" that involve, err, animals (even a fish or an eel I guess). Just morbid curiosity, I want to see that before its all outlawed. Any suggestions?
Thanks.
Shoe.
RogerShinny
02-06-14, 04:06
Where is the right place to pick up mature (35+ 40+ 45+ age women) thai woman for companionship during my stay in Bangkok.
Please guide me to local pick up places in and around sukhumvit I would prefer thai office or working expats looking for some extra fun or bored thai housewives also.
Darmstadter
02-06-14, 08:36
Does anyone have the contact information for Mr T taxi I seem to have lost it. I will be in Pattaya next month and need to arrange my taxi pick up from BKK.
Thanks,
ChrisHow late does he pick up in Bangkok with a ride to Pattaya? My plane arrives at 11:30pm. What is the rate to Pattaya from Suvarnabhumi?
Thanks,
Mark
I could not check out any MPs like sabai or honey during my last visit as rhey were quite a bit away from walking street area. This time I hope to stay near beach road, maybe at sabai wing or sunshine so would like to know if there are any good FS MPs nearby.
Also does anyone have any preferences or tips for better room at sabai wing vs sunshine?
I've never used him except in the middle of the day, but I suspect he can provide a ride 24/7: While it sounds like one very tired dude, he has many drivers working for him. I've never had the same one twice.
Suvarnabhumi to Pattaya= 1000 baht.
Pattaya to Suvarnabhumi= 900 baht.
Reiner Otto
02-07-14, 15:24
Also does anyone have any preferences or tips for better room at sabai wing vs sunshine?And consider Sunshine to be better choice. Also the breakfast (ncluded) in sunshine is more to my taste.
No problem having a girl to participate in breakfast.
Reiner Otto
02-07-14, 15:27
How late does he pick up in Bangkok with a ride to Pattaya? My plane arrives at 11:30pm. What is the rate to Pattaya from Suvarnabhumi?Go upstairs to departure level and pick a taxi there. 3 weeks ago I paid 900BHT, incl. Toll. Make clear during negotiations, that toll has to be included.
LOL, still fell obligated to pay? You have no choice but to pay. The Thai girl will call the police if you do not pay. Yes they will come and she will get her money. My friend who has been going to Thailand wanted o see what would happen if he dot pay due o service. She called the police. It was either pay or to the police station to handle it. He decided to pay. Don't mess with thai girls. But actually any country when you refuse to pay the girl I think bad things with happen.I know of many guys that did not pay and got away with it. Shame of them, of course.
It is not common for police to get involved in arguing between prostitutes and customers, actually if there is no sight of violence or theft, thye may not even show up
Hope you have travelers insurance and notify the Embassy about your next of kin information.Get lost. If you can't drive, just don't bother those who can.
And consider Sunshine to be better choice. Also the breakfast (ncluded) in sunshine is more to my taste.
No problem having a girl to participate in breakfast.Thanks Reiner Otto.
Replies like this make it easier to decide.
Cheers
I came back tow days ago and have to say that I'm seeing much better looks in the traditional WS pub and Lucifer venues. Many look like hard game but certainly better than the monster collection of last November. One hottie looking raised two fingers as soon I approached, now beside that this is exactly the right way to send me away, I think is a reasonable rate for prime catch LT. Then I saw here walking home still in disco attire just around 1pm today, meaning she's a good girl that delivers.
For myself, not being in the mood for luxury, I got my petite friend that was happy to see me again. A very simple girl with almost no English, but respectful, mannered and jokeful, as well as accomodating in bed. Unfortunately I don't like her enough to elevate to regular. She told me not to say I've been doing her, as her friend that I was doing before, is now back from Europe, where she had winter vacations courtesy of an unsuspecting sponsor. Kind of posse rules, etc.
Will see what the future will bring, one can't be unlucky all the time.
Sir Lancelot
02-09-14, 19:19
Hi gents,
I will soon be in Pattaya again and was wondering whether anyone can give me advice on any must visit gogo bars, either on Walking Street or LK Metro (I've already been recommended Sensations). I like pretty girls with good attitudes. A year ago I was particularly impressed with Airport, Beach Club, Happy, Heavens Above, What's Up and Baccara on WS, plus Office and Paradise on LK Metro. Any others?
I'd also be interested to know if there are any recommended massage parlours, other than Sabai Dee, Honey, Honey 2 and Dream Teen (Rasputin?).
I will post a diary after my trip.
Lance
Is it just me or do you guys also have this problem? The letters on their website are in PINK and I can't read them. Is there a way to "adjust" to screen to make them more legible? Thanks.Depends on whether your browser is IE or Firefox (I don't do google chrome)
This is for Firefox. I have no idea how to do this in IE but it's probably similar.
Open "tools"
Select "options" then "colors"
Select the TEXT color (I use BLACK) and the background color and
UNSELECT "allow pages to choose their own colors". Then click OK.
That annoying PINK is gone and the background is all white
Depends on whether your browser is IE or Firefox (I don't do google chrome)
This is for Firefox. I have no idea how to do this in IE but it's probably similar.
Open "tools"
Select "options" then "colors"
Select the TEXT color (I use BLACK) and the background color and
UNSELECT "allow pages to choose their own colors". Then click OK.
That annoying PINK is gone and the background is all whiteYou can always just highlight the area you want to read or the entire page (hold click and drag) and it should be easier to read. That way you don't need to change any settings.
After two poor experiences at massage places I went looking for Ba at Aree Massage, upon arrival I asked for Ba and was directed to one massage place past Cannon Massage. The Ba there did not fit your description as young. I went back to Aree and then remembered you said she had braces, arriving back a young good looking one with braces walked outside. I must have had a big smile on my face and she reacted similar. I said are you Ba and she said "no" I am Baree. I said a good friend told me to come visit you, she said what was his name. I said "John" she said do not know John. We had a great session, when I said I would like "boom boom" I think her clothes were all off before I said the second boom. Thanks Conqueror Val aka John. Great Chinese / thai cafe next door to AreeI also went to check out this person. The only one with braces there is named Beer which she has tattooed above her right breast. We'll worth the time. She has been there nine months. Just tell her you got massage from her the last time in Pattaya or saw her when walking by.
I could not check out any MPs like sabai or honey during my last visit as rhey were quite a bit away from walking street area. This time I hope to stay near beach road, maybe at sabai wing or sunshine so would like to know if there are any good FS MPs nearby.
Also does anyone have any preferences or tips for better room at sabai wing vs sunshine?Come on guys, are there no other Massage parlours other than Honey / Sabai / Rasputin etc? There got to be some FS ones near WS area.
Otherwise how do we have fun under the sun in Pattaya?
Are there any bars where FLs can be had from around noon such as BG in Bangkok?
ConquerorVal
02-11-14, 02:17
I also went to check out this person. The only one with braces there is named Beer which she has tattooed above her right breast. We'll worth the time. She has been there nine months. Just tell her you got massage from her the last time in Pattaya or saw her when walking by.That is funny. I am sure it is the same person Bart and I visited. We may all have different names for her, but it looks like we were all pretty happy with her service.
Come on guys, are there no other Massage parlours other than Honey / Sabai / Rasputin etc? There got to be some FS ones near WS area.
Otherwise how do we have fun under the sun in Pattaya?
Are there any bars where FLs can be had from around noon such as BG in Bangkok?If you can't find a bar with girls in Pattaya you must be blind. 1s and 2s, personality type girls all over the place.
Eric Swiss
02-11-14, 05:11
Hi gents,
I will soon be in Pattaya again and was wondering whether anyone can give me advice on any must visit gogo bars, either on Walking Street or LK Metro (I've already been recommended Sensations). I like pretty girls with good attitudes. A year ago I was particularly impressed with Airport, Beach Club, Happy, Heavens Above, What's Up and Baccara on WS, plus Office and Paradise on LK Metro. Any others?
I'd also be interested to know if there are any recommended massage parlours, other than Sabai Dee, Honey, Honey 2 and Dream Teen (Rasputin?).
I will post a diary after my trip.
LanceHi Lance,
I can recommend Airport and Living Dolls. Picked up girls there and service was great. Not so at Sensations.
Eric.
I would be visiting Pattaya around the month end. Anyone interested to catch up for a drink and discuss the common subject can please PM me.
Had a few trips in Thailand during my business trips in the last year. I got a lot of information from these forums as a newbie, and felt it was time to give my share of reports.
Trip 1. Pattaya.
Got off at BKK suvarnabhumi airport, connected to the free wifi for last minute information and took the bus on the first floor to Pattaya. I did not reserve a hotel in advance, so I got off near walking street to look for a hotel. I did read a lot of information on the hotels, but was overwhelmed on my first visit, and had to wing it. Stayed at AA hotel, which was a joiner-friendly hotel. They were helpful in setting me up with a ride back, and directions around Pattaya, but the place is fairly empty, and it felt like you had 10 eyes on you every time you return. (which made me feel nervous since it was my first time mongering) Very basic accommodation, and the standards weren't as good as I was expecting, first time in SEA.
Took a walk down Walking street, and was a bit nervous going into the clubs due to lack of research, hooked up on the way back up the beach road by a free lancer that was at most 20. LT for 2000. I remembered the service being very poor due to a bunch of complaints with "size". Being new at this, I didn't push it and I had my fill of 2 BBBJ with CIM, which also always ended up in a quick dash to the toilet. However, I found the highlight of the experience being the morning after, waking up with a hard on and promptly asking for a BJ felt like a waking up on Christmas morning. I had her take me around to a nice local breakfast joint via those motorbike taxi, and parted ways.
Day 2, I didn't want to venture too far with my luggage to upgrade my hotel, so I decided to tough it out for the duration of my stay. I tried a place called honey body, which was at the northern side of Pattaya, walking up the beach road but before the circular road at the northern tip. Had another wonderful experience, total damage was 2500, 90min. 1 shot, magical experience. Got her number and was tempted into trying her for the night as well. She asked for 4000, which I bartered a bit to 3500, given my damage the night before was 2000 only, however poor the service was.
Bought a phone card to call her, but didn't work out, I think she had a higher bidder, so I went strolling through Walking street. I ended up walking around a lot, because I was still not sure of what to expect in the clubs (lack of research) , and cowardly walked until it was almost closing time. I was around lucifer when I saw hoards of "couples" walking out, which made me feel a bit jealous. I noticed there were a few that was not paired on the side of the street, and they caught me looking. One of them came up to me to ask whether if I fancied one of the three, I chose the cuter one (that's my type) , and asked for a price. She said 2500 for LT, which I jumped immediately and walked home like a champion. As usual, I also check their age as I don't want one that is older than I, she turned out to be 22, which is a few under me. Surprisingly, she was shaved, and I had 1. 5 sessions with her that night. 0.5 being a self finish due to being out of stamina. She was a real spinner and enjoyed her time as well, much better than Day 1. Morning wood was taken care of without a complaint. Had her take me to another local restaurant, followed by some shisha and pool before we parted. I saved her contact for the future as she was one of the best lookers I saw on the trip.
Left Pattaya a very satisfied man via the Bell coaches.
I had the pleasure calling my girl from night 2 up to Bangkok again during my stop in January, but I will save my report for the other thread! However, overall, the accommodation was not very great, in comparision to my stay in Marriott in Bangkok, but the girls were around the same quality but a lot cheaper in my experience. (probably because I got a few bargirls in BKK and not Freelancers)
In terms of Soapy, I had a better time in BKK as well, the choices in Pattaya didn't seem as large as BKK. Services was around the same level.
I will definitely return to Pattaya next time to sample the bar girls to get a complete experience!
Darmstadter
02-11-14, 06:53
I'll be in Pattaya during the first part of the Songkran Festival. I'm reading in different places on the net that All bar girls go home during this time. I can't believe that there will be no girls in town at all.
Can anyone clarify this for me or should I fly to Phnom Penh or Kuala Lumpur for those few days before heading back to Bangkok.
Reached airport in morning via. Del BKK Thai air. On arrival visa got bus to Pattaya & stayed in Sailour bar 13/2. 600 BT. Big clean room with in room locker. Went to 7/11 for some cola water etc. Start drinking & went to beach road. Rain started & all girls went opp. Side of beach road. One girl made eye contact near Pizza Hut. Asked her for st. She quoted 500 BT. I said 400 BT. OK. She told OK let's go. In room offered her drink. Some chit chat & bbj starts. Put condi & fucked her hard. She offerer anal. Cool. Finish her in ass. Raining heavily outside so she stayed in my room & start drinking again. Some nice talking & another bbj with cim. Gave 500 BT. She took & left. Got some rest & slept. Woke up & went to Soi Bukhao for massage. 200 BT oil massage. Took some food & came back to room freshen up. Took bath. Took two drinks & went to hunt for night. Took very nice girl near Soi 7 for 1000 BT Lt. Fled her nicely for 2 hours in room & went to Walking street with her. Ate some food in beer garden with some nice view of the sea. In room for 2 nd round. Total gf experience. Gave me some Thai massage. Want to check disco so went to Marine. Shake our asses for few hour & went to room & slept together. One goodbye sex in morning with cim. Paid 100 BT. Taxi fare & she left. Gave me her & told me to call. Next to follow.
Mr Enternational
02-11-14, 10:20
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Wolvenvacht
02-11-14, 19:45
I'll be in Pattaya during the first part of the Songkran Festival. I'm reading in different places on the net that All bar girls go home during this time. I can't believe that there will be no girls in town at all.
Can anyone clarify this for me or should I fly to Phnom Penh or Kuala Lumpur for those few days before heading back to Bangkok.Some of them will go home indeed as Songkran is traditionally a family festival. But by no means will the town be empty of girls. There will still be more girls than you can ever hope to fuck.
Google "Pattaya songkran video" and enjoy! It is the largest wet t-shirt contest ever.
If you can't find a bar with girls in Pattaya you must be blind. 1s and 2s, personality type girls all over the place.FRHolmes,
Bars are okay but I was asking mainly about massage parlours and FL bars.
RogerShinny
02-12-14, 05:07
A friend is visiting Pattaya on a tight budget
He wants to experience a soapy massage.
Please recomend the cheapest soapy in Pattaya which is also nice and decent.
The ladies can be old but have to be bold.
Its ok if they have no looks but they have to go by the books.
Awesome Man
02-12-14, 16:06
Is everything in Pattaya shut down on Friday due to Macca Buddha Day? Not even possible to get laid on Soi 6?
A friend is visiting Pattaya on a tight budget
He wants to experience a soapy massage.
Please recomend the cheapest soapy in Pattaya which is also nice and decent.
The ladies can be old but have to be bold.
Its ok if they have no looks but they have to go by the books.Tell him to try the cliché club on soi Charlie.
Isn't Sailor bar just a restaurant?
Reached airport in morning via. Del BKK Thai air. On arrival visa got bus to Pattaya & stayed in Sailour bar 13/2. 600 BT. Big clean room with in room locker. Went to 7/11 for some cola water etc. Start drinking & went to beach road. Rain started & all girls went opp. Side of beach road. One girl made eye contact near Pizza Hut. Asked her for st. She quoted 500 BT. I said 400 BT. OK. She told OK let's go. In room offered her drink. Some chit chat & bbj starts. Put condi & fucked her hard. She offerer anal. Cool. Finish her in ass. Raining heavily outside so she stayed in my room & start drinking again. Some nice talking & another bbj with cim. Gave 500 BT. She took & left. Got some rest & slept. Woke up & went to Soi Bukhao for massage. 200 BT oil massage. Took some food & came back to room freshen up. Took bath. Took two drinks & went to hunt for night. Took very nice girl near Soi 7 for 1000 BT Lt. Fled her nicely for 2 hours in room & went to Walking street with her. Ate some food in beer garden with some nice view of the sea. In room for 2 nd round. Total gf experience. Gave me some Thai massage. Want to check disco so went to Marine. Shake our asses for few hour & went to room & slept together. One goodbye sex in morning with cim. Paid 100 BT. Taxi fare & she left. Gave me her & told me to call. Next to follow.
I've to finalize my destination either Bangkok or Phuket via Kol after getting some information from here. How is the situation at the moment in Pattaya & Phuket. Can we expect a trouble free drive form BKK airport to Pattaya or should I postpone my trip. Please advice. Thanks
RogerShinny
02-12-14, 19:52
Tell him to try the cliché club on soi Charlie.Tried to google the place could not find it any landmark nearby.
Where is Soi Charlie?
Which road?
Isn't Sailor bar just a restaurent?Bro,
Its Sailor bar in Soi 13/2 next to a gogo. Nice room & total gf.
Wolvenvacht
02-13-14, 08:25
Tried to google the place could not find it any landmark nearby where is Soi Charlie which road.May be he meant "Soi Cheap Charlie"?
Hi gents,
I will soon be in Pattaya again and was wondering whether anyone can give me advice on any must visit gogo bars, either on Walking Street or LK Metro (I've already been recommended Sensations). I like pretty girls with good attitudes. A year ago I was particularly impressed with Airport, Beach Club, Happy, Heavens Above, What's Up and Baccara on WS, plus Office and Paradise on LK Metro. Any others?
I'd also be interested to know if there are any recommended massage parlours, other than Sabai Dee, Honey, Honey 2 and Dream Teen (Rasputin?).
I will post a diary after my trip.
LanceMy first stop is always windmill. I always have a blast in there and is very "hands on". I also like babydolls for when I feel like a tiny spinner and I also enjoyed spanky's but my wingman did not. Iron is good to watch the shows but to pricey to BF from and they really hassle for lady drinks
Bro,
Its Sailor bar in Soi 13/2 next to a gogo. Nice room & total gf.Accha, will look it up.
Thanks a lot.
Today as I left house I dodged a first checkpoint just to be caught in the second big one on Sukumvith just south of central. They had restricted traffic to one lane and stupid me I tought it was for roadwork. I didn't know that the highway police station is there. It would have been enough to just drive to the side or into an alley.
Document checks was staffed by these clowns of foreigners turist police. And they wanted everyone to have an international driver license or face the fine. 400 Bt.
That has really built up my contempt for both the Thai cops and these wannabe cops on a gunless power trip.
The rest of the day was not much better and so the night, I digged quite a few bad attitudes at Lucifer. But, much better to know these there than in your room.
I've to finalize my destination either Bangkok or Phuket via Kol after getting some information from here. How is the situation at the moment in Pattaya & Phuket. Can we expect a trouble free drive form BKK airport to Pattaya or should I postpone my trip. Please advice. ThanksOutside of downtown Bangkok you don't know there is anything going on unless you follow media. Biz in BKK and DMK airport as usual, just less people.
Traffic to Pattaya from airports not impacted at all. Better actually as less tourists...
Anyone willing to do these, please send PM.
I would prefer to use bell bus because they drop off at hotel (sunshine or sabai wing) but they don't have a bus for one hour. 389 does have a coach leaving airport at that time but they will drop me off on central Pattaya intersection, leaving me at mercy of taxi or baht bus drivers.
So is it OK and wasy to try haggling with baht bus taxi drivers or is it better to stay back at airport for an extra hour and get bellbus for hotel transfer?
Please suggest if you have personal experience.
Thanks
Is everything in Pattaya shut down on Friday due to Macca Buddha Day? Not even possible to get laid on Soi 6?There is no alcohol been served until midnight in virtually all the bars so very quiet really. Hopefully will live up later.
GermanyReisen
02-14-14, 17:27
I was fishing around the walking street and saw a girl in T-shirt and jeans in a normal street outfit. My Jhonny was telling me that this was the girl for the day and I approached her and fixed the deal.
She gladly accepted and we walked towards my room. Chatted for a while to get comfortable and learnt that she is working in a parlor and seldom does this act.
Started with DKF. It was a extended DFK should have lasted more than 15 min with both enjoying each other and then BBBJ, I the mean while I was playing with her firm Boobs and pussy.
Started the act with her on my top and changed the position to misch and ended CIM.
It was an awesome experience and I invited her again for another night which she gladly accepted.
Damage: 600 bhatt for 2 pops.
Firm boobs and nice GFE!
Reiner Otto
02-14-14, 17:33
Anyone willing to do these, please send PM.please, explain.
Insomnia for the youngest crowd / freelancers, MIXX for the more mature ones (clients / suppliers) , and then WS2 for even older crowd. Of course, the ranges of age are not a dogma, just general observation. All discos on WS.
please, explain.Is not difficult, send PM to hang out. I've been working these since years.
Cab Driver
02-14-14, 19:29
Had trouble in some go goes with bar fines, the situation is this I'am having a good time with a girl paying for lady drinks of course, also with the waitresses helping things along encouraging me to bar fine the girl, when say about an hour later when I've enjoyed my self and got a good chemistry going thinking would like to take her then she drops the bombshell telling me she was bar fined earlier in the evening, what a let down suppose you guys may think what a dum ass and not find out before but this happened to me 3 times in different go gos, think I am being scammed for lady drinks or my game just isn't working right, any ideas guys?
please, explain.
Insomnia for the youngest crowd / freelancers, MIXX for the more mature ones (clients / suppliers) , and then WS2 for even older crowd. Of course, the ranges of age are not a dogma, just general observation. All discos on WS.Where is MIXX, please?
Had trouble in some go goes with bar fines, the situation is this I'am having a good time with a girl paying for lady drinks of course, also with the waitresses helping things along encouraging me to bar fine the girl, when say about an hour later when I've enjoyed my self and got a good chemistry going thinking would like to take her then she drops the bombshell telling me she was bar fined earlier in the evening, what a let down suppose you guys may think what a dum ass and not find out before but this happened to me 3 times in different go gos, think I am being scammed for lady drinks or my game just isn't working right, any ideas guys?You are just being scammed. There is no game in bars just wasted time and money. That's why I never go there.
Are there any bars where FLs can be had from around noon such as BG in Bangkok?You can hunt for 500thb freelancers on Beach Road all day long but usually not the hottest girls. If you want sex during daytime go to Soi 6, some very hot bargirls and only 1000thb ST.
You are just being scammed. There is no game in bars just wasted time and money. That's why I never go there.El Flaco,
Thailand is Disney land for men. It is a dream come true. But realize that it is an illusion and is not real. Thai woman will always rather be with Thai men. They work the bars and it is their job to get you to buy them over priced drinks. Then get you to bar fine them then get you to pay them for short time or long time. You don't need game with a hooker or stripper. Remember it is not real. Also the real dum ass is they sucker that send her money after he leaves monthly supposedly so she does not have to work any more. Also, thai woman give lots of BBBJ's always inspect their lips and tongue for cold sores before they give you a BBBJ. Because heaven can turn to hell very fast. Also, no matter how innocent she looks do not bang her without a condom.
Bill Miami
02-15-14, 14:08
Had trouble in some go goes with bar fines, the situation is this I'am having a good time with a girl paying for lady drinks of course, also with the waitresses helping things along encouraging me to bar fine the girl, when say about an hour later when I've enjoyed my self and got a good chemistry going thinking would like to take her then she drops the bombshell telling me she was bar fined earlier in the evening, what a let down suppose you guys may think what a dum ass and not find out before but this happened to me 3 times in different go gos, think I am being scammed for lady drinks or my game just isn't working right, any ideas guys?If that has happened to you 3 times, then you are defiantly doing something wrong. No matter who you are, that is unless you happen to be a young movie star, some of the girls are just not going to like you.
But, if it happened 3 times, almost assuredly you are not connecting with the girls and have to be doing something that is really outrageous and totally turning them off.
I suggest you tone down your behavior and start trying to be as polite as possible, and if that doesn't work, then something else is turning off the girls and I cannot help you.
Simonwagstaff
02-15-14, 15:07
If that has happened to you 3 times, then you are defiantly doing something wrong. No matter who you are, that is unless you happen to be a young movie star, some of the girls are just not going to like you.
But, if it happened 3 times, almost assuredly you are not connecting with the girls and have to be doing something that is really outrageous and totally turning them off.
I suggest you tone down your behavior and start trying to be as polite as possible, and if that doesn't work, then something else is turning off the girls and I cannot help you.Couldn't you just ask first if they have already been bar fined?
Cab Driver
02-15-14, 15:46
Thanks for your comments guys, but the one from Bill Miami, you got completely wrong. I think I'am old and wise enough to know if a girl likes me or not, sure it's there job, but the vibe you get from a girl cannot just be pure fake, unless there just acting. I have bar fined many girls over the years, just had a run of bad luck, let's see what happens tonight!
El Flaco,
Thailand is Disney land for men. It is a dream come true. But realize that it is an illusion and is not real. Thai woman will always rather be with Thai men. They work the bars and it is their job to get you to buy them over priced drinks. Then get you to bar fine them then get you to pay them for short time or long time. You don't need game with a hooker or stripper. Remember it is not real. Also the real dum ass is they sucker that send her money after he leaves monthly supposedly so she does not have to work any more. Also, thai woman give lots of BBBJ's always inspect their lips and tongue for cold sores before they give you a BBBJ. Because heaven can turn to hell very fast. Also, no matter how innocent she looks do not bang her without a condom.All good and great but just look at the flow of the conversation before throwing sermons, because I'm not the one that complained about anything.
I suggest you tone down your behavior and start trying to be as polite as possible, and if that doesn't work, then something else is turning off the girls and I cannot help you.How do you know which behavoir this guy had, you wasn't there. Beside I've seen than most often that not, polite guys are taken for a hard ride expoiting their attitude. Anyway, many bar and go-go girls, especially the fine ones clain the right of not going, while still retaining the one of fleecing for drinks. Once again, don't go to bars, problem solved.
"Also, thai woman give lots of BBBJ's always inspect their lips and tongue for cold sores before they give you a BBBJ. Because heaven can turn to hell very fast. Also, no matter how innocent she looks do not bang her without a condom".
Using the condom is true, at least for me. But the oral examination, really. I can picture myself sitting next a girl at a bar or anywhere and hearing " Honey open your mouth and I will get my dental mirror and check to see if you have any problems in there." Say Ahhh.
Maybe she can get out the rubber gloves and ask to inspect your private area also if you wanted it sucked.
But I do understand you want to be safe
Jimmy Boy 99
02-15-14, 18:17
Had trouble in some go goes with bar fines, the situation is this I'am having a good time with a girl paying for lady drinks of course, also with the waitresses helping things along encouraging me to bar fine the girl, when say about an hour later when I've enjoyed my self and got a good chemistry going thinking would like to take her then she drops the bombshell telling me she was bar fined earlier in the evening, what a let down suppose you guys may think what a dum ass and not find out before but this happened to me 3 times in different go gos, think I am being scammed for lady drinks or my game just isn't working right, any ideas guys?That happened to me once a few years ago in the gogo in WS with the tub on the left side of the entrance where two or three girls bathe themselves and each other. I saw this girl with a great body and motioned her to come sit with me when her time in the tub was over. She did and I bought her a lady drink. A few minutes later I asked about bar fining her and she said that she had already been bar fined. I told her she could go and went to the bar area to talk to a manager. I asked why was she allowed to have me buy her a lady drink when she was unavailable to be bar fined. The manager refunded the cost of the lady drink and I left. However, had I bought her a number of lady drinks, that probably would have not happened.
As Simonwagstaff posted, the time to find out if she is available to be bar fined (and, even more importantly, willing to go with you) is not after an hour of buying lady drinks but before you by her anything. The lady drink should be bought after to seal the deal you negotiated, not before.
So is it OK and wasy to try haggling with baht bus taxi drivers or is it better to stay back at airport for an extra hour and get bellbus for hotel transfer?Questions like that go beyond the realm of human mind and are really the biggest waste of space and time on a monger's board.
It's your money, it's your time, do what you want with it but please post on tripadvisor about your transfer by bus / taxi / motorbike experience next time.
As Simonwagstaff posted, the time to find out if she is available to be bar fined (and, even more importantly, willing to go with you) is not after an hour of buying lady drinks but before you by her anything. The lady drink should be bought after to seal the deal you negotiated, not before.And what would be the point anyway? To give money to someone that exploits prostitution? If you want to drink go to a regular bar where drinks are the same price for anyone and there is no pressure. If you want to give money to the woman, give it to her. Don't buy the bullshit of the drinks quota, a 200 Bt tip is worth 10 times more to a bargirl. I will never understand why men inThailand like to subsidize pimps and look as fools in doing it.
Using the condom is true, at least for me. But the oral examination, really. I can picture myself sitting next a girl at a bar or anywhere and hearing " Honey open your mouth and I will get my dental mirror and check to see if you have any problems in there." Say Ahhh.
But I do understand you want to be safeActually possible to get on tongue, gums and roof of mouth.
Nevertheless, ROTFLMAO.
All good and great but just look at the flow of the conversation before throwing sermons, because I'm not the one that complained about anything.TomSFA has a history of "throwing sermons" (love that expression)! He has variously been described by elder statesmen on the China forum as a "know nothing" and "dumbass" newbie. I am not flaming him, just repeating what other experienced mongers have posted!
LittleBigMan
02-16-14, 03:42
I'm not going to say it is a personality thing since I do not know you nor anyone else here. Let just say you are unlucky and shit happens. There is no indication at least to me there is a problem with how how you act.
There are many girls that get barfine ahead of their shift but continue to go to work since the customer might not be coming until later. So the girl works like O. T. To dance while dancing they get drinks from other customers. She is still working for a living to line up customer for the future?
There is no way for many customers to know unless they ask before hand? I'm sure after the flak he got now he will be asking sooner than later? Sure there is a chance she might just be saying this not to go with him for some reason? Further conversation on his part might be to simple ask her " when is your barfine coming, will you be available tomorrow"? Further question would give the answer that is how I would address it?
LBM
Wolvenvacht
02-16-14, 09:27
That happened to me once a few years ago in the gogo in WS with the tub on the left side of the entrance where two or three girls bathe themselves and each other. I saw this girl with a great body and motioned her to come sit with me when her time in the tub was over. She did and I bought her a lady drink. A few minutes later I asked about bar fining her and she said that she had already been bar fined. I told her she could go and went to the bar area to talk to a manager. I asked why was she allowed to have me buy her a lady drink when she was unavailable to be bar fined. The manager refunded the cost of the lady drink and I left. However, had I bought her a number of lady drinks, that probably would have not happened.
As Simonwagstaff posted, the time to find out if she is available to be bar fined (and, even more importantly, willing to go with you) is not after an hour of buying lady drinks but before you by her anything. The lady drink should be bought after to seal the deal you negotiated, not before.What a strange idea. Ladydrinks are payment for the girl to sit with you, have some conversation, perhaps some touching left and right. It has nothing to do with barfining the lady. If you were just out to barfine her, you should ask before you start anything.
Wolvenvacht
02-16-14, 09:29
Questions like that go beyond the realm of human mind and are really the biggest waste of space and time on a monger's board.
It's your money, it's your time, do what you want with it but please post on tripadvisor about your transfer by bus / taxi / motorbike experience next time.I seem to have missed the announcement of your appointment as the Forum Police.
Of course your report of your antics of driving without a license are totally "to the point" of this forum. :)
I seem to have missed the announcement of your appointment as the Forum Police.
Of course your report of your antics of driving without a license are totally "to the point" of this forum. .If you can't see the difference between reporting checkpoint locations, and asking for an holding hand, I can't help.
BTW I am fully licensed including IDL. Thanks for wasting further space, now buzz off.
Western787
02-16-14, 12:35
Had trouble in some go goes with bar fines, the situation is this I'am having a good time with a girl paying for lady drinks of course, also with the waitresses helping things along encouraging me to bar fine the girl, when say about an hour later when I've enjoyed my self and got a good chemistry going thinking would like to take her then she drops the bombshell telling me she was bar fined earlier in the evening, what a let down suppose you guys may think what a dum ass and not find out before but this happened to me 3 times in different go gos, think I am being scammed for lady drinks or my game just isn't working right, any ideas guys?I don't get your point, bar girls are routinely barfined multiple times a night. What does being barfined "earlier in the evening" have to do with YOU barfining her?
I don't get your point, bar girls are routinely barfined multiple times a night. What does being barfined "earlier in the evening" have to do with YOU barfining her?I think he meant that some dude paid her barfine and was coming back to get her later, yet she continued to milk him for drinks.
I don't get your point, bar girls are routinely barfined multiple times a night. What does being barfined "earlier in the evening" have to do with YOU barfining her?Simply a case of woman that did not wanted to perform, for whatever reason. The excuse given may vary and is not really important. What matters is that one is able to move on and learn how to not to be taken advantage for a next time.
Sanjay Joshi
02-16-14, 12:59
Hi bro,
I'm visiting Pattaya for first time, can you give some tips can I get good quality condoms or need to carry from here? Where? What's about lady boy massage where can I get hot girls top places. Please guide. Any precaution.
"Also, thai woman give lots of BBBJ's always inspect their lips and tongue for cold sores before they give you a BBBJ. Because heaven can turn to hell very fast. Also, no matter how innocent she looks do not bang her without a condom".
Using the condom is true, at least for me. But the oral examination, really. I can picture myself sitting next a girl at a bar or anywhere and hearing " Honey open your mouth and I will get my dental mirror and check to see if you have any problems in there." Say Ahhh.
Maybe she can get out the rubber gloves and ask to inspect your private area also if you wanted it sucked.
But I do understand you want to be safe
Can I get good quality condoms or need to carry from here? What's about lady boy massage? Where can I get hot girls top places.Condoms are sold in 7-11 stores, which are all over town. Most girls have a personal supply as well. Most of the ones I saw for sale were made by Durex, which is a quality brand. That said, if you fancy another brand or style it's best to bring your own. Lady boys can be found on Soi 6, especially in the bars on the SOUTH side of the street. As for "hot girls" in the "top places," check out the go go clubs on Walking Street. There are dozens to choose from and no matter what your taste in women you can probably find somebody you think is hot. There are also lots of go go clubs on Soi LK Metro. If you don't know where those places are located, I recommend buying the Pattaya map published by Groovy, which you can easily find for sale online. Finally, there is a TON of information available on this forum. Go back six months and read what others have written. It will be time well spent.
Outside of downtown Bangkok you don't know there is anything going on unless you follow media. Biz in BKK and DMK airport as usual, just less people.
Traffic to Pattaya from airports not impacted at all. Better actually as less tourists.Thanks knobrm for reporting the situation. I think there's no harm then. Great!
Western787
02-16-14, 19:56
Simply a case of woman that did not wanted to perform, for whatever reason. The excuse given may vary and is not really important. What matters is that one is able to move on and learn how to not to be taken advantage for a next time.Did the women actually turn him down?
Cadriver wrote as follows: "Had trouble in some go goes with bar fines, the situation is this I'am having a good time with a girl paying for lady drinks of course, also with the waitresses helping things along encouraging me to bar fine the girl, when say about an hour later when I've enjoyed my self and got a good chemistry going thinking would like to take her then she drops the bombshell telling me she was bar fined earlier in the evening, what a let down suppose you guys may think what a dum ass and not find out before but this happened to me 3 times in different go gos, think I am being scammed for lady drinks or my game just isn't working right, any ideas guys?"
He says he was "thinking" of taking her, but I don't see him actually saying he ASKED her, nor do I see where he claims she said NO.
Coyotes often string guys, its part of what they do. If she actually explicitly turned him down, I doubt there was any earlier barfine, but instead just another guy strung along.
Western787
02-16-14, 20:04
Some Coyotes DO barfine but they just don't go to the hotel, so its really not a true barfine.
STRIKERS in Soi 4 in Bangkok has this young red haired Vietnamese girl, kind of cute, and she plays a lot of pool and gets customers to buy a lot of drinks, Her "barfining" she offers is basically taking her to the disco. STRIKERS while not a Go Go will sometimes will have girls dancing in front, but this girl says she is not one, so basically she is a (non dancing) Coyote, if that makes sense. Since even waitresses barfine in most (non Go Go) bars or pool bars, its does seem kind of strange. Although we all know Coyotes or their equivalent will sometimes selectively bend the rules with the right guy
Right guy or not, obviously with certain Coyotes its just a matter of price and how much they need the cash. Nana Plaza itself in recent weeks has been loaded with Coyotes (usually 18 and 19 year olds, agency girls brought in during the slow period created by the protests) and their rules seem to be all over the place. As I allued to previously (though i had wrong name on club before) there as a G Club quality (nominal Coyote) in Fantasia who a number of weeks ago was turning down on night barfine offers from multiple customers one after the other, even Japanese. And this girl could not only really dance (totally wild) and she was as sexy as all get-out, tall, long long legs, great ass, great body, fairly cute face. Then a few weeks later this same girl on a very slow night is begging (from stage) for customers to barfine her. Did she turn into a working girl in a matter of weeks?, Did she need the cash? Perhaps "Bangkok got her" as they saying goes.
And of course Soi Cowboy the girls in front I wouldn't even classify as Coyotes as they don't even dance, nor do they ever seem to go in the club. Only requirement seems to be being cute, willing to grab customers walking by and (apparently) having reached their 18th birthday.
Wolvenvacht
02-16-14, 21:10
Simply a case of woman that did not wanted to perform, for whatever reason. The excuse given may vary and is not really important. What matters is that one is able to move on and learn how to not to be taken advantage for a next time.Really! She performed for her LD as she sat with him and gave him her time. That is all a "ladydrink" is about. It seems some posters here don't understand the rules of the game and then complainwhen their ignorance bites them.
Did the women actually turn him down?YES, they did!
Go back and read the OP report and if you still don't get where they drop the bombshell which translates to "no", you may need to enroll in English 101. By inference the girls would not have told him they were already barfined if he did not ask them to go with him. Poor Cab Driver came here to ask for help and is getting the usual ISG treatment but I'm sure he's learn the rules about LDs by now.
Really! She performed for her LD as she sat with him and gave him her time. That is all a "ladydrink" is about. It seems some posters here don't understand the rules of the game and then complainwhen their ignorance bites them.Absolutely! One goes to a brothel and then even wants to get laid! Where we'll end I don't really know!
Absolutely! One goes to a brothel and then even wants to get laid! Where we'll end I don't really know!How many guys paying for LD's do turn them into a barfine?
How many guys paying for LD's do turn them into a barfine?No idea, I don't own a bar and have never been to one.
But I see your point, and in fact now that I think about it, prostitution in illegal and immoral, so that must be the reason why the guy was turned down.
It will be a beautiful world of Lady Drinks then. Did you knew that since they are water only, do not even harm ladies health ? Thailand is really one step forward!
"Also, thai woman give lots of BBBJ's always inspect their lips and tongue for cold sores before they give you a BBBJ. Because heaven can turn to hell very fast. Also, no matter how innocent she looks do not bang her without a condom".
Using the condom is true, at least for me. But the oral examination, really. I can picture myself sitting next a girl at a bar or anywhere and hearing " Honey open your mouth and I will get my dental mirror and check to see if you have any problems in there." Say Ahhh.
Maybe she can get out the rubber gloves and ask to inspect your private area also if you wanted it sucked.
But I do understand you want to be safeI was in Thailand one time in Pattaya. Brought a girl back to my place. Laying on the bed. She just starts going down for the BBBJ and sticks out her tongue a little bit. I saw she a huge cold sore on her tougue. I stop her. I was like WTF? I instead put on a condom and told her I don't need oral. Another time I brought back a beer bar girl and she had some disgusting skin issue on her vagina. I paid her in full and told her to leave without touching her. Lucky I saw these things beforehand and not after. If I mention ways to be safe it is only so other can learn from my experiences. I do not want to preach or give a sermon. Just trying to tell things I learned. But this kind of talk is never popular of these boards. I know. Next time maybe I probably won't mention it. Better advice is turn out the lights and keep the party going. Yeah.
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