View Full Version : Pattaya Reports
You sure your on the right forum?
I know prostitution is illegal, but why is it immoral?
It is an agreement between two consenting adults is it not?
Or am I missing something in your post?
Or am I missing something in your post?Yes, I think you are. Apologies to the casual reader as this bullshit is still dragging on.
Paul Kausch
02-17-14, 02:19
You sure your on the right forum?
I know prostitution is illegal, but why is it immoral?
It is an agreement between two consenting adults is it not?
Or am I missing something in your post?But in Thailand isn't it illegal only if a pimp is involved? I believe it is legal for a man to make direct payment to a woman to have sex with him, assuming she is of legal age. Isn't this the reason for the bar fine? The guy pays to take the lady out of the bar. The rest is between the lady and the gentleman.
Western787
02-17-14, 03:13
YES, they did!
Go back and read the OP report and if you still don't get where they drop the bombshell which translates to "no", you may need to enroll in English 101. By inference the girls would not have told him they were already barfined if he did not ask them to go with him. Poor Cab Driver came here to ask for help and is getting the usual ISG treatment but I'm sure he's learn the rules about LDs by now.I think the girl is probably a Coyote anyways and she probably wasn't in fact barfined earlier anyways.
However (non Coyote) bargirls routinely barfine multiple times during a shift, so I am still not sure how a bargirl saying "I've already barfined" is supposed to be an excuse for why she can't barfine a 2nd time. I guess you are saying that's a standard excuse, and if it is, then that explains it.
Western787
02-17-14, 03:29
But in Thailand isn't it illegal only if a pimp is involved? I believe it is legal for a man to make direct payment to a woman to have sex with him, assuming she is of legal age. Isn't this the reason for the bar fine? The guy pays to take the lady out of the bar. The rest is between the lady and the gentleman.You are describing the law in the UK, (sex for money for example in the apartment of a provider, one customer and one provider living there, no brothel. 100% legal) but in Thailand the same transaction is illegal, but they leave certain terms undefined such as must be in "a promiscuous manner", or an "open and shameless manner" and "causing a nuisance to the public". All making it difficult to enforce.
A barfine or anything similar is simply a form over substance sham transaction and would not negate a 3rd party from being charged, but of course in Thailand there is no enforcement.
, so I am still not sure how a bargirl saying "I've already barfined" is supposed to be an excuse for why she can't barfine a 2nd time.This was explained below but you missed it so here it is again. The girls were bar fined earlier by customers who left the bar (for reasons known best to themselves) and will be back to get the girls her later on that night. Sometimes girls are bar fined the night before but still work the bar until their customer arrives to take them out. Sometimes girls who are already bar fined will sit in the bar but will not be in their bar girl attire but change to their version of civilian clothing waiting for their customers to return/arrive to take them out.
Sometimes customers will BF hot chicks to prevent others from taking them and leave the bar to go eat or bar hop or whatever they feel like doing, then return to take them out. But since the girls are under no obligation to go with any customer they can use the "I am already bar fined and am waiting for my customer" line to anyone they don't want to go with. With so many bars and so many girls in Pattaya, if a girl turns anyone down for whatever reason, just keep it moving and find someone else but keep a lid on your LD purchases.
Darmstadter
02-17-14, 07:43
Can I buy Viagra at a pharmacy in Pattaya without a prescription?
How much does it cost compared to USA prices?
I usually always bring my supply but if cheaper there then I might as well get it there.
Thanks.
Western787
02-17-14, 07:59
This was explained below but you missed it so here it is again. The girls were bar fined earlier by customers who left the bar (for reasons known best to themselves) and will be back to get the girls her later on that night. Sometimes girls are bar fined the night before but still work the bar until their customer arrives to take them out. Sometimes girls who are already bar fined will sit in the bar but will not be in their bar girl attire but change to their version of civilian clothing waiting for their customers to return / arrive to take them out.
Sometimes customers will BF hot chicks to prevent others from taking them and leave the bar to go eat or bar hop or whatever they feel like doing, then return to take them out. But since the girls are under no obligation to go with any customer they can use the "I am already bar fined and am waiting for my customer" line to anyone they don't want to go with. With so many bars and so many girls in Pattaya, if a girl turns anyone down for whatever reason, just keep it moving and find someone else but keep a lid on your LD purchases.Ok, now that makes more sense.
When cabdriver said 'she was bar fined earlier in the evening" I interpreted that to mean "earlier in the evening the bar fee was paid AND she went to the hotel to have sex" vs (just) "the bar was paid"
Assuming a bar girl is actually preemptively barfined, its hard to understand why she would let herself be tied up like that. I mean presumptively only the bar has been paid the 500 or so, yet she is still has not received her 2000 (or whatever). Unless the time is set or the customer is a major roller or major customer to her, it doesn't seem to make much sense. And the issue is magnified even more if the girl being tied up is in fact a "hot chick" as she is less likely to want to hang around waiting for someone when she has other opportunities all over the place. A hottie would have to be a fool to let herself get tied up like that.
Even as an excuse it seems transparently phony, and perhaps only a good way to lead a guy on to buy ladydrinks, and then bail.
Wolvenvacht
02-17-14, 08:27
You sure your on the right forum?
I know prostitution is illegal, but why is it immoral?
It is an agreement between two consenting adults is it not?
Or am I missing something in your post?In Thailand (and many other countries) prostitution is not illegal. Whether it is moral or not is a question for your own conscience.
Western787
02-17-14, 08:47
In Thailand (and many other countries) prostitution is not illegal. Whether it is moral or not is a question for your own conscience.Prostitution is 100% illegal in Thailand. For example in the case of Poseiden Spa they could bust the entire 10 story building, the fish bowl, the sideliners, the pimps, the waitresses along with all the Japanese customers (both of them) in there TONIGHT if they wanted to.
Then they could round up Soi Cowboy and the annoying 18 year old door girls with braces standing out front, Baccarra and the Japs, every person except cab drivers and security guards in Nana Parking Lot, all the occupants in Nana Plaza especially the SPANKY'S tout hanging near the stairs beating the stick each night, and bust most of the occupants of The Nana Hotel WHILE FORNICATING and for good measure send a SWAT TEAM to bust the Soi 7 BEER GARDEN regulars and anyone in the vicinity of Soi 7/1, and just for kicks a massive roundup of the pretties standing with their night bags at Thermae looking all innocent, and even customers just eating popcorn.
It would shock the world and the media would proclaim all the providers as "trafficked" and the men as perverts, and ABC News in america would run specials on it for months, making sure to have lots of videos (taken from below) of the 2nd floor girls in Baccarra wearing sneakers and short skirts but no panties, and the left side Rainbow 4 girls dancing topless, all sure to kick up ratings.
Hillary Clinton would make it a major "human rights" campaign issue, and Bill Clinton would announce he's heading a special task force and will personally visit Bangkok to investigate how it all happened
However don't hold your breath.
Can I buy Viagra at a pharmacy in Pattaya without a prescription?
How much does it cost compared to USA prices?
I usually always bring my supply but if cheaper there then I might as well get it there.
Thanks.Yes you can but not all pharmacies will sell it to you. The one next to Tim Bar on second road is one that will. It's called Kamagra (locally manufactured) and is green instead of blue but has the same active ingredient.
I think it's 250 baht for a packet of 4 but I could be wrong.
Mr Enternational
02-17-14, 11:28
Yes you can but not all pharmacies will sell it to you. The one next to Tim Bar on second road is one that will. It's called Kamagra (locally manufactured) and is green instead of blue but has the same active ingredient.
I think it's 250 baht for a packet of 4 but I could be wrong.Kamagra is India manufactured. They will take you for whatever they think they can get. Best to hard bargain or say but last time you sold it to me for X.
Kamagra is India manufactured. They will take you for whatever they think they can get. Best to hard bargain or say but last time you sold it to me for X.There is also a Thai manufactured one, Sidegra. 100 Bt gets 4x 50mg. Beside being cheaper, it's safer because legally manufactured for the purpose of pushing fakes and imports off the street.
Ok, now that makes more sense.
When cabdriver said 'she was bar fined earlier in the evening" I interpreted that to mean "earlier in the evening the bar fee was paid AND she went to the hotel to have sex" vs (just)"the bar was paid"
Assuming a bar girl is actually preemptively barfined, its hard to understand why she would let herself be tied up like that. I mean presumptively only the bar has been paid the 500 or so, yet she is still has not received her 2000 (or whatever). Unless the time is set or the customer is a major roller or major customer to her, it doesn't seem to make much sense. And the issue is magnified even more if the girl being tied up is in fact a "hot chick" as she is less likely to want to hang around waiting for someone when she has other opportunities all over the place. A hottie would have to be a fool to let herself get tied up like that.
Even as an excuse it seems transparently phony, and perhaps only a good way to lead a guy on to buy ladydrinks, and then bail.You can debate and dissect the merits of the girls' action till Buddha come but why they are doing it is not important. What's important, is as the OP asked, how do you, the customer overcome it, and some good answers were given below. As was stated before it could be an excuse not to go with the customer or perhaps they were genuinely bar fined and trust the person will return because they have an on going relationship with that person. Could also be that they were paid up front for their services.
BTW, just about everyone is phony in this game. When girls tell you they have "men" which means they are on the rag but are not or when John customer tells the girls, I'll be back when he knows he will not. It's all a game so being phony is a part of the show but it cuts both ways.
Assuming a bar girl is actually preemptively barfined, its hard to understand why she would let herself be tied up like that. I mean presumptively only the bar has been paid the 500 or so, yet she is still has not received her 2000 (or whatever). Unless the time is set or the customer is a major roller or major customer to her, it doesn't seem to make much sense. And the issue is magnified even more if the girl being tied up is in fact a "hot chick" as she is less likely to want to hang around waiting for someone when she has other opportunities all over the place. A hottie would have to be a fool to let herself get tied up like that.I do this quite often. I've met a girl I like, and I fancy her staying with me a few nights later. So I arrive at her bar at 5pm and pay her bar-fine, telling her I will be back at 10:30pm or whatever. She is then free to do as she likes, until then, but usually she will stay at the bar with her friends and get a few lady-drinks. You are right, she could potentially go ST with another customer while waiting for me. But conversely she knows me, hopefully likes me a little, knows I will give her a good price for the night, and knows I might repeat a couple of nights later. I've made my commitment to come back and collect with my 500 bht bar-fine payment, so she knows she has a customer tonight. Conversely if she went off with another customer and I returned early, I would be pissed off, probably insist on a return of my bar-fine, so mamasan would be pissed off with the girl. And I wouldn't bother to see the girl again. So I guess I am saying it works if you have built up a bit of trust already.
Prostitution is 100% illegal in Thailand. For example in the case of Poseiden Spa they could bust the entire 10 story building, the fish bowl, the sideliners, the pimps, the waitresses along with all the Japanese customers (both of them) in there TONIGHT if they wanted to.
Then they could round up Soi Cowboy and the annoying 18 year old door girls with braces standing out front, Baccarra and the Japs, every person except cab drivers and security guards in Nana Parking Lot, all the occupants in Nana Plaza especially the SPANKY'S tout hanging near the stairs beating the stick each night, and bust most of the occupants of The Nana Hotel WHILE FORNICATING and for good measure send a SWAT TEAM to bust the Soi 7 BEER GARDEN regulars and anyone in the vicinity of Soi 7/1, and just for kicks a massive roundup of the pretties standing with their night bags at Thermae looking all innocent, and even customers just eating popcorn.
It would shock the world and the media would proclaim all the providers as "trafficked" and the men as perverts, and ABC News in America would run specials on it for months, making sure to have lots of videos (taken from below) of the 2nd floor girls in Baccarra wearing sneakers and short skirts but no panties, and the left side Rainbow 4 girls dancing topless, all sure to kick up ratings.
Hillary Clinton would make it a major "human rights" campaign issue, and Bill Clinton would announce he's heading a special task force and will personally visit Bangkok to investigate how it all happened.
However don't hold your breath.You ought to be a comedy writer, funny stuff!
ConquerorVal
02-18-14, 05:13
I had this report all ready to post a month after my return home, but somehow managed to erase it along with some of my other possibly incriminating evidence. Anyway here are my thoughts on Pattaya. I am relatively new in this hobby and my only significant longer mongering period comparison is a one week stay in Sosua-Dominican Republic last August. Prior, it was mostly short term adventures. I will try not to compare too much.
Girls.
First of all I have to say that I prefer the look of Chinese and Korean girls to the SEA girls(except Vietnam), but in my humble opinion the vast majority of the girls in Pattaya to put it kindly were plain. However, due to the large number of them working here, a monger should be able to find what he wants every time he is out for a hunt. Regardless, somehow I still managed to fail couple of times. Generally, I love skinny girls and it is hard to beat the almost zero body fat that some of the Thai girls have, but their faces I often did not find attractive. Also, many of the girls regardless of their age had saggy boobs (I know-having babies) , which does not really effect me as much, since I am more of an ass man.
Some of the previous reports I have read indicated that the Thai girls are really sweet, humble, gentle, and so on, but after all is said and done, I cannot say that they are any different form other service providers in different parts of the world I have visited and experienced. A Thai girl can leave you feeling hallow inside and in your wallet as much as any other girl. I did not find them to be better in bed than other girls, however, I have to admit that I received some of the best blow jobs in my life in Pattaya. Also, they really seemed to enjoy DATY, but I generally find this with Asian / SEA girls.
The girls here also seemed quite shallow and narcissistic with their braces, nose jobs and so on, but that may be more of a generational issue. Even though friendly on the outside, it was all a game. Also, I found it interesting that there is a bit of an ageism issue going on. What I noticed, was that if you were young, it mostly did not matter what you looked like (within reason) and the girls were all over you. This may have something to do with an inordinate amount of middle aged and older man hanging around Pattaya. I guess you can't blame the girls, but being middle aged I did not appreciate this. I barely got out of my hotel in Sosua and I was grabbed by couple of young, thin, attractive, spinner bodied early 20's girls asking for a happy hour. Of course I obliged. I cannot see this happening in Pattaya. Reading a recent post by Mr. GoGo in AC, Philippines, I noted his remark about just having to look at a puta in Sosua would ensure him getting laid, but in Pattaya some of the girls do not look at you, and sometimes even look away when you try to accomplish contact.
I used to be amused when some of the posters in the Thailand thread commented about what they should be wearing or doing to attract the girls's attention. Now I understand. You actually have to have game sometimes to succeed. Or the smarts, which come with experience. I think this is especially true if you are older and may have to compete with the younger crowd.
The problem is that I came here with unrealistic expectations and it does not matter what you read here or see on the Youtube, you have to experience it before you learn.
To be continued:
Western787
02-18-14, 06:12
The girls here also seemed quite shallow and narcissistic with their braces, nose jobs and so on, but that may be more of a generational issue. Even though friendly on the outside, it was all a game. Also, I found it interesting that there is a bit of an ageism issue going on. What I noticed, was that if you were young, it mostly did not matter what you looked like (within reason) and the girls were all over you. This may have something to do with an inordinate amount of middle aged and older man hanging around Pattaya. I guess you can't blame the girls, but being middle aged I did not appreciate this. I barely got out of my hotel in Sosua and I was grabbed by couple of young, thin, attractive, spinner bodied early 20's girls asking for a happy hour. Of course I obliged. I cannot see this happening in Pattaya. Reading a recent post by Mr. GoGo in AC, Philippines, I noted his remark about just having to look at a puta in Sosua would ensure him getting laid, but in Pattaya some of the girls do not look at you, and sometimes even look away when you try to accomplish contact.Pattaya girls now raising their standards? In Bangkok all one needs to get all the hotties one can handle is: 1. A pulse 2. The bahts to pay them. Now it's probably smart to also be clean shaven, neatly dressed, have good breath, and be a gentleman, but I don't think its mandatory
IamJohnGalt
02-18-14, 06:18
Prostitution is 100% illegal in Thailand.
Hillary Clinton would make it a major "human rights" campaign issue, and Bill Clinton would announce he's heading a special task force and will personally visit Bangkok to investigate how it all happened.C'mon, Bill C is powerful enough to have a charter flight filled with prostitutes in Bangkok and brought to his location. That would not be human trafficing because it's part on "an ongoing investigation."
Wait 'til all of us publish the results of our 'study' on the sex industry in Asia. Oops, that's exactly what this forum is!
; )
I had this report all ready to post a month after my return home, but somehow managed to erase it along with some of my other possibly incriminating evidence. Anyway here are my thoughts on Pattaya. I am relatively new in this hobby and my only significant longer mongering period comparison is a one week stay in Sosua-Dominican Republic last August. Prior, it was mostly short term adventures. I will try not to compare too much.
Girls.
First of all I have to say that I prefer the look of Chinese and Korean girls to the SEA girls (except Vietnam) , but in my humble opinion the vast majority of the girls in Pattaya to put it kindly were plain. However, due to the large number of them working here, a monger should be able to find what he wants every time he is out for a hunt. Regardless, somehow I still managed to fail couple of times. Generally, I love skinny girls and it is hard to beat the almost zero body fat that some of the Thai girls have, but their faces I often did not find attractive. Also, many of the girls regardless of their age had saggy boobs (I know-having babies) , which does not really effect me as much, since I am more of an ass man.Youll be fine as long as you remember they are not your girlfriend!
ConquerorVal has it right, good looks are down, bad attitudes are up. And this has been going on since a long time. People like Goatscroat is able to explain that in much better words than myself.
If you can't see that, Western787, that is actually good for you or anyone with reduced standards. About myself, I'm pretty well adjusted and accepting by now.
However I don't think I would trade Pattaya for that cesspool of Sosua anytime, or even Las Terrazas.
I have seen loads of regular bars but how about any equivalent of above mentioned bars in Pattaya? Where one dies not have to pay a bar fine, fls are desperate to make eye contact and one does not have to listen to ear splitting music?
Youll be fine as long as you remember they are not your girlfriend!Laughable comment. Not a single line or word from ConquerorVal report hints athe trading pussy for roamnce, rather all the contrary. And he, unlike you, is reporting not asking so what means to say "you will" ?!?
Save your 2 cents condescending lectures posted from a free account, for when it's worth.
Yes, I have an issue with the way too frequent inane, idiotic, preposterous postings. Dig it or skip reading.
I have seen loads of regular bars but how about any equivalent of above mentioned bars in Pattaya? Where one dies not have to pay a bar fine, fls are desperate to make eye contact and one does not have to listen to ear splitting music?Not many because in Pattaya, Thais are not stupid enough to renounce pimping where pimping is the norm. Few bar / disco exceptions on Walking Street, but if you don't want to barfine and meet truly desperate women, go to beach road.
Jimmy Boy 99
02-18-14, 19:20
I have seen loads of regular bars but how about any equivalent of above mentioned bars in Pattaya? Where one dies not have to pay a bar fine, fls are desperate to make eye contact and one does not have to listen to ear splitting music?There used to be a Beer Garden type place on the beach side of Beach Road just at the entrance to Walking Street, behind a bunch of bars with girls you have to barfine. I think they also did Thai boxing behind those bars. To get there you would walk towards the water, with the bars on your left, until you reached the bar (also a restaurant). There used to be freelancers there. Check out if it's still there.
Western787
02-18-14, 19:56
Youll be fine as long as you remember they are not your girlfriend!You still got a thing for that Rainbow 4 superstar you barfined 19 times?
Western787
02-18-14, 20:30
To clarify an earlier post. Even a pulse is apparently optional now in Bangkok. Saw it with my own eyes in Rainbow 3 (Nana 2nd floor) recently, with an older gentleman who rolled in one evening. And in a mere matter of minutes left with 2 hotties on a barfine. Very very strange.
Wolvenvacht
02-18-14, 20:50
To clarify an earlier post. Even a pulse is apparently optional now in Bangkok. Saw it with my own eyes in Rainbow 3 (Nana 2nd floor) recently, with an older gentleman who rolled in one evening. And in a mere matter of minutes left with 2 hotties on a barfine. Very very strange.Reminds me of a joke: "Why did that old man leave with those two beauties? All he did was lick his forehead with his tongue".
Western787
02-18-14, 21:05
You ought to be a comedy writer, funny stuff!I do not have that level of talent, but kind of you to say that. In truth in Bangkok the material writes itself.
Example, I am outside of Nana hotel one night around midnight, and I see a middle age drunk Japanese guy being walked over from Nana Plaza (totally blitzed with 2 bouncers propping him up) bringing him to the hotel. To understand the precise look on his face one must reference the SLEEPER movie "Orgasmatron" scene with Woody Allen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Isrd7E5nzIQ
The last 10 seconds of that clip. That was the exact look the guy had
Minutes later they walk him from the hotel to a cab, as apparently he's not staying there.
My guess is that the guy must have had one hell of a time in the shortterm rooms in the Plaza
If you want to see talented comedy script writing, see a move called Euro Trip on DVD. The fact that those guys have not attempted a siimilar movie on Bangkok tells us (whle loaded with material) is not easily translated to the big screen.
The "Soccer Hooligan" (Manchester United fans i think) who show up at various times in the Euro Trip movie could actually be used again in a Bangkok comedy. Basically they would play pool, get drunk, and start fights over soccer matches they'd watch in the bars and rarely barfine girls- just be pissed off all the time.
Then you (and these are 90% based on real characters) a "young guy who claims he can't get laid in Bangkok' character, and then you have an over-sexed elderly gent who would be seen in the background being wheeled out by hotties while the young guy is complaining about not getting laid. Then there would be a cheap ass bargainer (German or Brit or Austrialian or someone) basically obsessed with low balling everybody, and arguing, and ends up killing the vibe on everything he does. Then a crazy Indian watch seller, a crazyy Indian Tut Tut driver who drives with India flags and 100 lights, and an 8 foot lady boy who like to scare people on Soi 5 at 4 AM when she pops out from behind the Ronald McDonald figure, then I'd have a Go Go Stunner who claims to not make much money, but who is so rich she's trading stocks online in her penthouse in between appointments and in her mailbox has about dozen letters a day with checks. Then an obese Go Go girl who never gets barfined, then the Farang so obsessed with herpes he can only do girls if their pussy is wrapped in cellophane, then the young German guy who offers food for sex, but also offers to marry girls if they cook for him, with such girls invariably immediately going to the market to prepare his elaborate German type dinner that very same night. There are really endless funny situations in Bangkok
There used to be a Beer Garden type place on the beach side of Beach Road just at the entrance to Walking Street, behind a bunch of bars with girls you have to barfine. I think they also did Thai boxing behind those bars. To get there you would walk towards the water, with the bars on your left, until you reached the bar (also a restaurant). There used to be freelancers there. Check out if it's still there.It is still there, but it is more of a restaurant than a fl pick-up joint. Having said that I did pick up one of my bestest friends from there. :)
Yes it's still there but no talent. Sad.
There used to be a Beer Garden type place on the beach side of Beach Road just at the entrance to Walking Street, behind a bunch of bars with girls you have to barfine. I think they also did Thai boxing behind those bars. To get there you would walk towards the water, with the bars on your left, until you reached the bar (also a restaurant). There used to be freelancers there. Check out if it's still there.
You are quite right about pimping culture. There is a fantastic opportunity for some enterprising person to start a day time freelancing bar. There seem to be none.
Not many because in Pattaya, Thais are not stupid enough to renounce pimping where pimping is the norm. Few bar / disco exceptions on Walking Street, but if you don't want to barfine and meet truly desperate women, go to beach road.
Here is a brief account of my Pattaya visit Feb 2014.
Arrived at Suvarnabhoomi airport after having travelling for about 30 hours but still in good condition. However somehow it was not the smoothest landing. The flight was at time. Airport was merkedly less busy at 8 AM, al least 30% less. But immigration lines moved slowly and it still took me an hour to reach the baggage claim area where luckily the bags were circling on the belt. Decided to head to bell travel counter on first floor. There was chaotic scene there and the attendents were just too busy on the phones rather than attend clients. Was pissed off and decided to first buy the sim. Little problem- they are sold on 2nd floor and the way back to 2nd floor is not open although plice officers let you get in w / o any hassle. Made another silly mistakke of not buying the 299 card that comes with wifi as well, bought the 149 baht card with minutes only (115 baht talk time). Took about 10 mins to activate.
Went down to first floor, booked bus to Pattaya for 10 AM departure. Got assigned the seat next to washroom. Should have pre booken on web which is cheaper and allowes seat selection. On top of that seemed ot be slowest bus on the highway, doing steady 45 km / hour. Had to take out laptop to kill time although somehow it did arrive at Patat11. 45. 10 min ride to Hotel Sunshine.
Another bnig bummer. Despite having written to hotel several days in advance that I might arrive by 12, there was no room available. Won't be ready till 1. Comeon. 33 hopurs, no shave, no shower, no change of clothes. I was mighty pissed off. Had lunch, came back, got the room but bah! Now can't login to internet. Anyways that was my mistake of switching ID with username. Then was told they don't have in room iron, nor is one available at hotel! Thankfully les than perfect landing episode ends here. Slept at 3 PM, got up at 6 and went to beacjh road.
Had to walk to and fro for an hour at least before picking up first girl, Emm. A little plump, she sounded bubbly so agreed to her 600 baht and did the ded. She was in abit of hurry to score second catch and asked for condom in 5 minutes. Not the inspiration one needs to fly intercontinental. However she did respond very well to DATY and French kissing and overall it was OK. Went for a second round around 11 PM. The number of WGs is down dramattically by as much as 30. Very few customers even though plenty of johns and WGs. What is clearly and completely missing is the quality. I am very picky but I could find only 2 girls after having walked entire beach road at 11 PM! Just two, barely 4. 5 in my books. Spent another hour and decided to call it a day.
Next day did the shopping and other similar stuff. Picked up a nice looking chubby girl M in the evening. She was a great lay, very good kisser and we made love like crazy. Got her digits. Again went out in the night for stroll on beach road for more talent but this was not to be. Terrible evening. Only 50% WGs as compared to last year. Very poor quality. Not even one could fancy my eyes despite having walked the entire beach road three to four times. Ended up getting blisters. There was a big drop in # of girls between Monday and Tuesday and on Wed it was even less. Again hardly any quality WGs. Most ask for 600-700 baht now a days for ST, one even asked 1000. Picked a third girl Ning who looked very nice in clothes but didn't have a steller body underneath. Johny wasn't too excited but worth $15 LOL. However on last night I won the lottery. Same routine, walk, walk, walk on beach road. Saw this MILF so decided not to be too fussy and thought will get over with. She however turned out to be out of of this world in room. Nice one nipples on size 34c boobs. 38 years old, only 4 months in business, shy housewife. OMFG. Her BJ was out of of this world. Put her heart and soul into the deed like it should be. Was the fist outstanding session.
Bangkok report next.
Here is a brief account of my Pattaya visit Feb 2014.
Arrived at Suvarnabhoomi airport after having travelling for about 30 hours but still in good condition. However somehow it was not the smoothest landing. The flight was at time. Airport was merkedly less busy at 8 AM, al least 30% less. But immigration lines moved slowly and it still took me an hour to reach the baggage claim area where luckily the bags were circling on the belt.
There are two immigrations halls, separated by some travelator. Often one is less busy than the other, depending which side the most people comes from.
Wolvenvacht
02-20-14, 08:31
There are two immigrations halls, separated by some travelator. Often one is less busy than the other, depending which side the most people comes from.And don't forget they have some video monitors, so you can check beforehand if the other hall is less busy.
I had said I would have reported when I had something. So here it is. Nothing out of the ordinary, just a good FL experience.
I wrote many times about the car on wall pub, but there is no harm in repeating. It is good for our purpose for the following reasons, convenient location, decently friendly staff, reasonable drink prices that are the same for everyone, opens early enough, mixed age perhaps a little toward the mature, and generally speaking the women there are not total nutcases. Negatives are that the music sucks, it closes early, and is not like is filled with stunners, but that's true all across the country.
Now for the guys that comes for few days only, it is difficult to recognize the resident ladies (that are IMHO, not worth much attention) from the occasional better one, but in general the rules are, the more motivated ladies come alone and come early. The ones doing quick ins and outs in assorted small groups are, most often, the ones less able to perform.
I will repeat again the rules of engagement when working FLs. First, be wary of strange looks. That includes the hardened, aggressive hooker, but also the one that doesn't not used make-up. You can surely approach any single lady you want and I recommend to alway start with a smile or a light touch and nod. If you are returned indifference or unfunny faces, that is the first indication that you should be moving on to the next immediately, do not take refusals personally, whatever the issue with an "unfriendly" woman is, you're just being spared hassle by not having to deal with it any further. In approaching a FL there are few things I personally recommend. Do not feel obligated to buy a drink, ever if asked. If you want to just talk business feel free to do so. If you are in the mood to dance or grab, do it. If you want to make or say silly jokes, same. It is your free partying time so make the most out of it. If a lady is in a groups and point to her friend but you like her better, just grab her and do not allow being manipulated ever! I know these things seem obvious, but I see guys behaving silly, and for that are taken for a ride by the girls. Again I stress, during the initial contact anything that hints at her being jaded, cold, weird, high, or anything negative, must get you moving. Another bad sign is being asked for a given amount of money immediatley, inviariably on the high side of range. You are the one expected to make your offer, consider that 1, 000 Bt for ST and a couple pops is definitely acceptable. 1,500 for LT is also still an offer that is not offensive. If you want to have multipe pops in ST be sure to mention that clearly, as well if you can't take covered BJs. If she declines or is not convincing in answer, my advice is to move on. Do not be put off by the frequent comment that she has been paid 3, 000 before, just smile, comment something in a friendly way and be firm on what you can honestly offer (not 3, 000 please).
Now the fact is, you can be groomed and dressed like a torero, do all the talent screening religiously, prayed Buddha or your favorite divinity extensively, and still face a good 50% of chances of being unsatisfiyed, ending with a woman that is OK about being paid for sex, but much less doing it. So before overpaying, consider that averaging the failure ratio, you're always paying twice to to a good provider!
All this being said, it was yesterday a little after midnight that I noticed a sexy woman in her 30s stand alone. Slim, not overdressed, beatiful long natural hair. Her face has some Isaan features, very sexy with a small nose that I like. She passed all the tests mentioned above, so off we went, we had a good time together, she wasn't never boring for things like insisting on preliminary showers, and then she had a very natural sex drive and a quiet, but never idiotic, attitude. I did not her say a single "no", and in the end to me, that never have unreasonable demands, that is what matters most. A couple rounds before sleeping, another good romp in the morning, then I drove her to Jomtien beach for a mini breakfast. Supposedly she was going back to Bangkok today, thing that I believe also because I didn't have seen her before. Gave 1, 500 as agreed and I hope she will be back for more.
Good Report.
I did not see good lookers at this bar with the Car hung on the wall during my multiple visits to Pattaya. Will try my luck this time in the coming week though.
I had said I would have reported when I had something. So here it is. Nothing out of the ordinary, just a good FL experience.
I wrote many times about the car on wall pub, but there is no harm in repeating. It is good for our purpose for the following reasons, convenient location, decently friendly staff, reasonable drink prices that are the same for everyone, opens early enough, mixed age perhaps a little toward the mature, and generally speaking the women there are not total nutcases. Negatives are that the music sucks, it closes early, and is not like is filled with stunners, but that's true all across the country.
Now for the guys that comes for few days only, it is difficult to recognize the resident ladies (that are IMHO, not worth much attention) from the occasional better one, but in general the rules are, the more motivated ladies come alone and come early. The ones doing quick ins and outs in assorted small groups are, most often, the ones less able to perform...
Sanjay Joshi
02-22-14, 09:25
Hi,
Can you please tell best option for hot girl or LB massage, area and place.
Hi gents,
I will soon be in Pattaya again and was wondering whether anyone can give me advice on any must visit gogo bars, either on Walking Street or LK Metro (I've already been recommended Sensations). I like pretty girls with good attitudes. A year ago I was particularly impressed with Airport, Beach Club, Happy, Heavens Above, What's Up and Baccara on WS, plus Office and Paradise on LK Metro. Any others?
I'd also be interested to know if there are any recommended massage parlours, other than Sabai Dee, Honey, Honey 2 and Dream Teen (Rasputin?).
I will post a diary after my trip.
Lance
Dammit flaco. You sure are willing to drive the asking prices UP
Yesterday night I had the pleasure of hanging out with Mr. Ent. And his boy. I tought it was to be a nice famility thing of dad and son going fishing together, but no, he meant just another guy. As I meet them at Candy Shop they were sitting like Al Capone and Al Pacino, minus the cigars, plus the Thai ladies, that now I will proceed to describe in full detail. Mr E's. Lady is Thai, and his friend's lady is Thai too, but has braces.
I have to say that Candy shop has the interesting property of looking big from outside, but it's small inside. Opening cerimonial done, soon we proceeded to anyone's favorite, Lucifer. It was way early just after midnight, for the record Red Label bottle goes for Bt 1, 850 and may be the best deal when sharing.
Ladies started getting in and I invited one to sit next to us. About her looks we must be clear, attractive perhaps, hot she wasn't. Shortie and slim but with no waiste line, cute face but no doll, covered legs, so who can tell about that. She smiled and all good, after a while a young muscular dude came to dance and press her a little, in a game that she played.
I said to Mr Ent,"the only problem with young men is that they have no less money than us". I'm not sure if he got what I meant because he had previously switched his language to me to Spanish, anyway he nodded as if agreeing.
How wrong I was! After a while I see the guy pointing his own face as to say, I'm handsome, I want it free. At that point I broke in internal laughs, having seen this identical scene countless times.
As out bottle was emptied we had no more reason to stay, as we left. Mr E. And friend made a beeline to the nearest doner kebab, where they were well know and given two large servings each, without even asking. I was happy with pad thai at 40 Bt. We then split, and I went erratical for a while.
I catched the above said young lady walking alone at the mouth of Walking Street toward 2nd road. I quickly tagged, and threw my bait to satisfy my curiosity, "Hello again, you look so sexy, what about 3, 000 Bt". No way I would have paid that, but I wanted to see her reaction. She just said "solly solly" and kept looking at her smartphone, BTW that is a very dangerous thing to do when crossing Thai streets, I hope she made home in one piece. That much for the "buyer market", ahahah!
Not satisfied again yet I went for a look to Marine, where soon I was the subject of the fake drunk girl comedy. This one is done like that, at a table a girl appears to have had a small difference with a guy, in this case it was a young Asian? Thai? guy. The comedy plot as follow, the inebriated girl will lean on you and show to "be thankful" that you're there to separate her from the annoying other male. I'm not sure how this table game is supposed to end, perhaps because I couldn't care less.
Now all that can be fun for a while, but this girl was chubby, did not smelled like Rose Pussy from Paris, and couldn't really act. Willing to play the game I contributed 100 Bt toward her following drink, that was quickly accepted. She wasn't, of course, much drunk and even less troubled, so I soon moved on to another slighlty better one.
I was a little fooled by her looks, just in between strawberries picker and the girl on Teamviever website, anyway after 3 minutes she demostrated to have the equivalent brain and empathy of of a mussel, for which she was promptly ditched at the bottom of Marine's infamous stairs. Always proceeding with prevailing traffic flow I scootered my lone ass toward Mixx, but not after having met again Mr Ent's friend and missus, having a 3rd? 4th? taste of Thai stall food delicacies.
At Mixx the situation wasn't any better. By now I got to know the only two good looking residents, one is slim, always white dressed with semi-curly hair adorned with a flower, she was all over the small blonde from Pattaya news TV, I mean the white one with such a thick eye makup that make you wonder how many direct cumshots it would take to just smear it a little.
The other one is also (guess) slim and white dressed, but paired with a fat crooked legs one. Too bad they all are (including the fattie) stuck-up bitches of the worst kind.
Nothign to be had, nothing having lost, I called it a night and that was it.
ConquerorVal
02-23-14, 14:48
Nothing to be had, nothing having lost, I called it a night and that was it.Great report. Something I can relate to in may experiences in Pattaya. I like posts that describe things as they are, and not just through a rosy lens. Its realistic narratives like this that SHOULD give a newbie better perspective on Pattaya. Descriptions of conquests and victories only, give a distorted view. I came in with these unrealistic expectations. Reality bites.
Been on Beach road many nights. I see good looking ladies every time I am out and there are always some not so lovely ladies there too. Lately many of the lookers are asking 1500. 2000 for LT. Some will negotiate with me and some won't. Although when I walk back later many of them will drop their price as they realize that money in hand is better than wishing for some. Also, as you would expect, time of night makes a difference. I do still find some decent ladies for 500 ST / 1000 LT, just not as many as in the past. Some ladies have told me that they want to get some ST customers then they may go LT. I saw one lady get two ST customers in the short time frame that I was walking. I am not sure how many she may have had before that, but not exactly what I am looking for in my LT for the night.
The bars have not been nearly as busy as I would have expected them to be in January and February. I know about the Bangkok issue, but I didn't think that affected too many of us. I have seen in the past many more customers in March and April than there are now. Also the cooler weather we had for awhile seems to have ended. Although still not nearly as bad as low season. It has only rained two times in the last month and a half and that was not much (I was gone for awhile during that time on a visa run).
Nothing really changes here (since I've been coming here) except prices up a little, but that happens everywhere. More ladies than I know what to do with. Although I still have a love / hate thing for Thailand. One hotel tried to rip me off. I had them empty the fridge when I arrived and when I was checking out about 20 days later, they told me I have to pay for those things. A good thing I tipped the maid everyday as she came to my rescue and told them she took the things out as I requested it and someone from the front desk told her to do it. They also said that I owed more money as I didn't pay the full rate. I showed them my receipt and asked them if there was any other scam they wanted to try on me. Another customer was standing there and when I shot down all their stupid attempts, they said "OK sorry you good customer". Maybe they were honest mistakes, but how stupid can they be? I still think some of the Thais I have dealt with in the monger areas are some of the dumbest people on the planet. This "good customer" won't be back there again.
Been on Beach road many nights. I see good looking ladies every time I am out and there are always some not so lovely ladies there too. Lately many of the lookers are asking 1500. 2000 for LT. Some will negotiate with me and some won't. Although when I walk back later many of them will drop their price as they realize that money in hand is better than wishing for some. Also, as you would expect, time of night makes a difference. I do still find some decent ladies for 500 ST / 1000 LT, just not as many as in the past. Some ladies have told me that they want to get some ST customers then they may go LT. I saw one lady get two ST customers in the short time frame that I was walking. I am not sure how many she may have had before that, but not exactly what I am looking for in my LT for the night.Good report with useful info, thanks.
The quantity of girls on beach road is down significantly as compared to last year. It also varied heavily during weekedays. I am very picky indeed but just to put things in perspective, I walked the entire beach street aara around 7. 30 PM and found only two girls I can make myself agree to have sex with! Very poor quality in terms of looks and bodies. It is a matter of fact that most ladyboys are now prettier than most WGs.
Business is quite a bit down in WS but there are still throngs of visitors. Pattaya has lot better and relaxed atmosphere than in Bangkok. Curiously quality in Bangkok was lower than in Pattaya. There are plenty of Japanese in Pattaya, still using same modus operandi of hitting clubs like baccarat and bar fining from there. You hardly see them looking for wares on beach road. Still quite a few Indians, hunting in groups of 4/5 men on beach road. Someone has decided to throw open a night club especially for welcoming Indian men and money on WS, ADXYZ something. You will see throngs of them entering it as it seems like that may be only venue where they are allowed in. Pattaya is still mostly Russian. It hurts the eyes to see so many beautiful, big boobed rusokovas that are out of reach among a sea of flat chested uglies. Most girls ask for 600-700 for short time, some who salivate at hope of fucking you come straight down to 500. Only one chubby idiot quoted me 1000. The party is still going on in this town but there was unmistakeable air of business being down and good lookers having left the town / business.
I've just come back from my last holidays. I stayed on the Philippines and in Thailand. My personal opinion about Pattaya, contributing to former statements from you guys about Russian invasion and its impacts. Well, all in all I've got to say it's okay. Places where mongers go and where the mostly family oriented Russians hang out are clearly divided. I hate the development as far as that is concerned in Phuket / Patong where mongering has become a walk of shame all the way. I remember my first stay there in 2000, when it was heaven on earth, hardly any families around. They have done a very good job, whatever they've been doing, to keep more and more the mongers away or better said to attract families to spend their holidays in the land of smile. Therefore I mostly avoid Phuket, even though it's a nicer place anything else but mongering is concerned. Costs for mongering are still the same in Pattaya as it was in 2000 whereas the ladies in Phuket seem not to be fed up with asking higher and higher amounts.
Fast Eddie 48
02-27-14, 21:15
I was in Pattaya a few week ago visit Isomnia they have some hot pole dancer there have anyone barfine any of this hot girl before.
Fast Eddie 48
Fast Eddie 48
02-27-14, 21:23
Been on Beach road many nights. I see good looking ladies every time I am out and there are always some not so lovely ladies there too. Lately many of the lookers are asking 1500. 2000 for LT. Some will negotiate with me and some won't. Although when I walk back later many of them will drop their price as they realize that money in hand is better than wishing for some. Also, as you would expect, time of night makes a difference. I do still find some decent ladies for 500 ST / 1000 LT, just not as many as in the past. Some ladies have told me that they want to get some ST customers then they may go LT. I saw one lady get two ST customers in the short time frame that I was walking. I am not sure how many she may have had before that, but not exactly what I am looking for in my LT for the night.
The bars have not been nearly as busy as I would have expected them to be in January and February. I know about the Bangkok issue, but I didn't think that affected too many of us. I have seen in the past many more customers in March and April than there are now. Also the cooler weather we had for awhile seems to have ended. Although still not nearly as bad as low season. It has only rained two times in the last month and a half and that was not much (I was gone for awhile during that time on a visa run).
Nothing really changes here (since I've been coming here) except prices up a little, but that happens everywhere. More ladies than I know what to do with. Although I still have a love / hate thing for Thailand. One hotel tried to rip me off. I had them empty the fridge when I arrived and when I was checking out about 20 days later, they told me I have to pay for those things. A good thing I tipped the maid everyday as she came to my rescue and told them she took the things out as I requested it and someone from the front desk told her to do it. They also said that I owed more money as I didn't pay the full rate. I showed them my receipt and asked them if there was any other scam they wanted to try on me. Another customer was standing there and when I shot down all their stupid attempts, they said "OK sorry you good customer". Maybe they were honest mistakes, but how stupid can they be? I still think some of the Thais I have dealt with in the monger areas are some of the dumbest people on the planet. This "good customer" won't be back there again.To Hobbylist.
There last few yr price at beach Road his gone up alot you have a better chance getting a decent girl at 500 bht ST late at night after 2am but most will be older dog and the cute one only want to go ST only for 1000bht even soi 6 girl ST is 1000 bht now in house, Pattaya is full of tourist now high season and they are leaving Bangkok and head to Pattaya most hotel is full.
Fast Eddie 48
To Hobbylist.
There last few yr price at beach Road his gone up alot you have a better chance getting a decent girl at 500 bht ST late at night after 2am but most will be older dog and the cute one only want to go ST only for 1000bht even soi 6 girl ST is 1000 bht now in house, Pattaya is full of tourist now high season and they are leaving Bangkok and head to Pattaya most hotel is full.
Fast Eddie 48I think my post pretty much agrees with yours. Although I have seen a few decent lookers that will go ST for 500 earlier. I saw one nice looking lady (Ann) during the day time and she quoted me 500 ST and when I asked if she would go LT at night, she said 1500. However, later when I called her for LT, she said she just wanted to go ST. I was in soi 6 a week ago and confirm what you stated about prices.
However, I don't understand the guys that say there are no good looking ladies on BR. I see some every time I am out there. I just don't want to pay their price. I saw a go go quality lady last night and her friend go off with two young Japanese guys. I saw several other very pretty ladies. One quoted me 2500 baht. I said no thanks as I have never even paid 2000 in Thailand yet for LT. One night I wish I would have cause she was go go quality and said LT for 2000. That was during the elections when the bars were closed (some were still open, but dark).
Costs for mongering are still the same in Pattaya as it was in 2000 whereas the ladies in Phuket seem not to be fed up with asking higher and higher amounts.Prices for mongering must have been high in 2000 as the prices now have never been higher since I have been coming here. My first trip was in 2011 and I have been here in high and low season. Pattaya still has good value, but if prices continue to rise at the rate they have been lately, other locations may become interesting to me. Maybe the currency exchange had something to do with your costs?
Fun In Mumbai
02-28-14, 09:45
Hi all,
Anyone in Pattaya currently wants to go mongering with me? I prefer to have / be a wingman before I hit the clubs. Makes everything a lot more easier in terms of negotiations, keeping eyes open for scams, exchange options and company while searching for more fun. Had a great time last year. Want to repeat. I stay in Central Pattaya.
ConquerorVal
03-01-14, 00:06
I think my post pretty much agrees with yours. Although I have seen a few decent lookers that will go ST for 500 earlier. I saw one nice looking lady (Ann) during the day time and she quoted me 500 ST and when I asked if she would go LT at night, she said 1500. However, later when I called her for LT, she said she just wanted to go ST.Is she a 20 year old cutie with a spot across the Wind hotel? Usually she wears a sun dress, works from noon until 9:00 pm and speaks surprisingly good English. If so I recommend her even for short time. She was not interested in LT with me either. A bit of a mystery girl, but a good provider.
Is she a 20 year old cutie with a spot across the Wind hotel? Usually she wears a sun dress, works from noon until 9:00 pm and speaks surprisingly good English. If so I recommend her even for short time. She was not interested in LT with me either. A bit of a mystery girl, but a good provider.I am not familiar with the Wind hotel and don't remember her exact location, but she was between soi 13 and Royal Garden Plaza / Mall and it was earlier than noon. It could have been 10:00 am and not wearing a sun dress. She was very friendly and smiling and rubbed my arm lightly while talking with me. I am no good at guessing age and I didn't ask, but she was a cutie. I normally don't walk BR at that time, but saw her as I was going to eat and decided to walk back to soi 13 on the beach side and see if she was still there. That is when I talked with her.
Bro,
Your report had good observations. Why don't you name the hotel?
I had a simillar experience at hotel Ibis, the earlier customer had relpaced one odd can of beer which I had to pay for!
It was not much, so I paid up, but the way the sudden turn around of the ever friendly staff was a dampner just before I left the land of smiles.
Another scam on beach road which I should warn aboutis a dark stretch on the beach footwalk betwn A1 and Subway.
Two girls accost you, rub against you, hand on your crotch try to nibble your ear, disorients you, while the third (maybe ladyboy) pats your bum and removes your wallet!
She did, I turned around, caught her hand, and the other one has her hand inside my jacket, so audacious!
When I made a threatening gesture, she laughed and handed me back the wallet. Beware of this treesome one fat, one thin, and one suspected ladyboy.
From my 14 trips, this was the only direct attempt made. Otherwise, I have found Thailand is safe. Any time of the dayor night.
Happy mongering.
NM
Been on Beach road many nights. I see good looking ladies every time I am out and there are always somnot so lovely ladies there too. Lately many of the lookers are asking 1500. 2000 for LT. Some will negotiate with me and some won't. Although when I walk back later many of them will drop their price as they realize that money in hand is better than wishing for some. Also, as you would expect, time of night makes a difference. I do still find some decent ladies for 500 ST / 1000 LT, just not as many as in the past. Some ladies have told me that they want to get some ST customers then they may go LT. I saw one lady get two ST customers in the short time frame that I was walking. I am not sure how many she may have had before that, but not exactly what I am looking for in my LT for the night..
For all you DrooLing at the thought of hot 500 baht patta cjicks. Drool no more- if they cost 500 baht they ain't anywhere close to being hot!
ShaggedOut
03-01-14, 21:06
To each their own but I really can't understand why anyone would go mongering on Beach Road.
My wife is a prominent fund raiser for AIDS awareness in Chonburi as well as a counsellor for AIDS sufferers and we took a rare venture into Pattaya a few days ago. We walked along Beach Road for the first time in a long time and I could see my wife looking at all the freelancers who were touting for business.
I knew what she was doing and when we got into the car to drive home, she told me that she had counted 57 girls (including ladyboys) who are HIV positive and who regularly receive assistance from her charity.
You don't need me to tell you to rubber up but even that may not be enough!
Remember, a cheap 500 baht fuck may turn out to be the most expensive ride of your life.
To each their own but I really can't understand why anyone would go mongering on Beach Road.
My wife is a prominent fund raiser for AIDS awareness in Chonburi as well as a counsellor for AIDS sufferers and we took a rare venture into Pattaya a few days ago. We walked along Beach Road for the first time in a long time and I could see my wife looking at all the freelancers who were touting for business.
I knew what she was doing and when we got into the car to drive home, she told me that she had counted 57 girls (including ladyboys) who are HIV positive and who regularly receive assistance from her charity.
You don't need me to tell you to rubber up but even that may not be enough!
Remember, a cheap 500 baht fuck may turn out to be the most expensive ride of your life.As a responsible counselor why didn't your wife approach some of her clients and counseled them on their irresponsibility behavior? Surely she going to take some action other than head counting otherwise she is pretty irresponsible.
ConquerorVal
03-01-14, 22:15
As a responsible counselor why didn't your wife approach some of her clients and counseled them on their irresponsibility behavior? Surely she going to take some action other than head counting otherwise she is pretty irresponsible.I agree. These kind of posts are totally useless and only contribute to fear mongering.
As a responsible counselor why didn't your wife approach some of her clients and counseled them on their irresponsibility behavior? Surely she going to take some action other than head counting otherwise she is pretty irresponsible.Calm down. Guy is just pointing out the obvious. Off street anything is shit!
A counselor would know the girls need to come asking for HELP. No need to embarrass them while they looking for Johns. LOL.
Ps I admit I do buy clothes off the street and am quite pleased with my purchases.
Bro,
Your report had good observations. Why don't you name the hotel?
I had a simillar experience at hotel Ibis, the earlier customer had relpaced one odd can of beer which I had to pay for!
It was not much, so I paid up, but the way the sudden turn around of the ever friendly staff was a dampner just before I left the land of smiles.
NMAA Pattaya Residence. It is in soi 13, about half way between beach Road and second Road
For all you DrooLing at the thought of hot 500 baht patta cjicks. Drool no more- if they cost 500 baht they ain't anywhere close to being hot!Really, that tells me a lot about what you know. Once I renew my membership I can put you on my ignore list as you obviously don't know much about what is available on BR. I would have to assume everything else you post is full of the same misleading info.
Mr Enternational
03-02-14, 03:50
My wife is a prominent fund raiser for AIDS awareness in Chonburi as well as a counsellor for AIDS sufferers and we took a rare venture into Pattaya a few days ago. We walked along Beach Road for the first time in a long time and I could see my wife looking at all the freelancers who were touting for business.
I knew what she was doing and when we got into the car to drive home, she told me that she had counted 57 girls (including ladyboys) who are HIV positive and who regularly receive assistance from her charity.How many did she count in the beer bars, gogo bars, massage parlors, and soapies?
Der Auslander
03-02-14, 03:58
I think it best to reserve the safe sex discussions for the area set aside on ISG Thailand Forum for this particular subject. Discussions of this nature outside of the Safe Sex in Thailand thread only leads to discord between members and more importantly prevents other members from reporting on what this particular thread should be about; that is the exchange of information on the subject of finding women for sex in Pattaya.
I agree. These kind of posts are totally useless and only contribute to fear mongering.I disagree. If its a legit issue it should be brout up!
Western787
03-02-14, 06:31
To each their own but I really can't understand why anyone would go mongering on Beach Road.
My wife is a prominent fund raiser for AIDS awareness in Chonburi as well as a counsellor for AIDS sufferers and we took a rare venture into Pattaya a few days ago. We walked along Beach Road for the first time in a long time and I could see my wife looking at all the freelancers who were touting for business.
I knew what she was doing and when we got into the car to drive home, she told me that she had counted 57 girls (including ladyboys) who are HIV positive and who regularly receive assistance from her charity.
You don't need me to tell you to rubber up but even that may not be enough!
Remember, a cheap 500 baht fuck may turn out to be the most expensive ride of your life.On Nov 1, 2012 you said "I have a trip to the Philippines coming up within the next few weeks and whilst I love the bar scene, I never go with bar girls as I am married and do not want to take any unwanted gifts back to my wife. Instead, I prefer to meet up with cam girls in the (maybe naive) belief that they are cleaner and healthier than bar girls. Here is a small selection of some of the girls who have agreed to meet up with me. Hopefully more and better quality pics to follow."
On May 24, 2008 you also said " I don't want to spoil anyone's party but I have seen many photo reports concerning Pattaya Beach Road freelancers. My lady is a major fundraiser for a leading AIDS charity in Pattaya even though it is a part-time job, outside of her regular day job. She "sweet talks" fairly large companies and organisations into parting with substantial funds for one particular charity. A few nights ago, we had dinner at the Mantra on Beach Road and then took a long stroll from the restaurant to the start of Walking Street. On the way, she encountered 18 service providers who are registered with her charity as being HIV+. She couldn't remember if it was 7 GGs and 11 Ladyboys or 8 GGs and 10 ladyboys. All, with the exception of 2 or 3, of them appeared outwardly fit and healthy and most of them, upon seeing her, took time to chat with her. I have read many reports of encounters with Beach Road providers and would strongly advocate condom-use if anyone ever uses their services."
And you've been barebacking what? on and off for 33 years now?
Your info could be helpful but next time could you ask your wife to give an accurate count of non LB providers?
I agree. These kind of posts are totally useless and only contribute to fear mongering.Agree. And by the way, being able to recognize 57 faces out of maybe 200 in a stroll, means this lady has exceptional visual memory beside the charitable attitudes, and her organization needs no computer files.
Yes it sounds fishy.
LittleBigMan
03-02-14, 11:10
To each their own but I really can't understand why anyone would go mongering on Beach Road.
My wife is a prominent fund raiser for AIDS awareness in Chonburi as well as a counsellor for AIDS sufferers and we took a rare venture into Pattaya a few days ago. We walked along Beach Road for the first time in a long time and I could see my wife looking at all the freelancers who were touting for business.
I knew what she was doing and when we got into the car to drive home, she told me that she had counted 57 girls (including ladyboys) who are HIV positive and who regularly receive assistance from her charity.
You don't need me to tell you to rubber up but even that may not be enough!
Remember, a cheap 500 baht fuck may turn out to be the most expensive ride of your life.I commend your wife as a prominent fund raiser for AIDS awareness in Chonburi it certainly is a important job especially here! What is confusing to me in your report is why a visit was made since in her consulting she must know from the conversations with her AIDS patients that this is happening? I've lived here for a number of years and know a few HIV ladies and if they are doing P4P infected it does not take a field trip or a rocket science to figure out what is happening.
I also agree with another poster it is not very professional to comfort them on Beach road, that is just my opinion, and even so what does it accomplished these ladies are going to do what it takes to feed themselves and family no different than any monger is going to do to get their rocks off. We all have read the endless debates to cover or not cover. Many feel they are invincible to go uncovered done it for all these years and will continue and there are ladies that go back to work as a payback since this most likely the reason they got it. There is plenty of blame to go around!
Last, what surprises me even more is why you even bother to make this post especially on this site. Certainly you can't be as naive as your wife to think it is going to make a big impact on InternationalSexGuide? It just gives me the impression you are nothing more that a troll or hypocrite for posting here? When you are not with you wife walking on Beach Road what are you doing and does she know you are posting a member of this board?
AIDS is no joke and the work being done is important but personally I just have a hard time taking your post with a grain of salt!
Sorry LBM, If you are not a troll then please tell your wife continue the good work!
JesseJames
03-02-14, 17:37
To each their own but I really can't understand why anyone would go mongering on Beach Road.
My wife is a prominent fund raiser for AIDS awareness in Chonburi as well as a counsellor for AIDS sufferers and we took a rare venture into Pattaya a few days ago. We walked along Beach Road for the first time in a long time and I could see my wife looking at all the freelancers who were touting for business.
I knew what she was doing and when we got into the car to drive home, she told me that she had counted 57 girls (including ladyboys) who are HIV positive and who regularly receive assistance from her charity.
You don't need me to tell you to rubber up but even that may not be enough!
Remember, a cheap 500 baht fuck may turn out to be the most expensive ride of your life.Your story doesn't make sense and if it doesn't make sense it's a lie.
JesseJames
03-02-14, 17:52
AA Pattaya Residence. It is in soi 13, about half way between beach Road and second RoadAlways count and check the minibar upon check in, while the room boy is in the room. AA Pattaya Residence is a good place and wouldn't cheat you intentionally.
Some jerk pulled that trick in Burma several years ago, opening the water, replacing Coke with Burma Cola. If I didn't pay, the maid would've been responsible since she didn't catch the creeps little trick when he checked out. Make sure all is okay before you let the room boy go ie: towels, lights, remote, bar, etc. Than give him a good tip.
Der Auslander
03-02-14, 19:04
Some jerk pulled that trick in Burma several years ago, opening the water, replacing Coke with Burma Cola. If I didn't pay, the maid would've been responsible since she didn't catch the creeps little trick when he checked out. Make sure all is okay before you let the room boy go ie: towels, lights, remote, bar, etc. Than give him a good tip.Some people are really so pathetic! He would have saved himself probably a few dollars and as a consequence the maid would have lost her pay for that day at the very least! As you said a complete creep!
Your story doesn't make sense and if it doesn't make sense it's a lie.Hookers are disease free. That's true! Or is it a myth propulgated by Mrs Clinton. LOL.
You can't be all into Beach Road 500 baht hookers.
Always count and check the minibar upon check in, while the room boy is in the room. AA Pattaya Residence is a good place and wouldn't cheat you intentionally.
Some jerk pulled that trick in Burma several years ago, opening the water, replacing Coke with Burma Cola. If I didn't pay, the maid would've been responsible since she didn't catch the creeps little trick when he checked out. Make sure all is okay before you let the room boy go ie: towels, lights, remote, bar, etc. Than give him a good tip.Truth is I usually try to avoid rooms with a minibar-too much hassle. I prefer a room with just a empty refrig. Where I can put anything I want in it
Jimmy Boy 99
03-03-14, 00:28
Always count and check the minibar upon check in, while the room boy is in the room. AA Pattaya Residence is a good place and wouldn't cheat you intentionally.
Some jerk pulled that trick in Burma several years ago, opening the water, replacing Coke with Burma Cola. If I didn't pay, the maid would've been responsible since she didn't catch the creeps little trick when he checked out. Make sure all is okay before you let the room boy go ie: towels, lights, remote, bar, etc. Than give him a good tip.Just tell them to empty out the minibar and avoid the whole problem.
Always count and check the minibar upon check in, while the room boy is in the room. AA Pattaya Residence is a good place and wouldn't cheat you intentionally.I stopped by there to inquire about a room. After we agreed on a price I gave them a deposit for the room and they gave me a receipt. Several days later when I came back to check in, they asked for that receipt. I thought they just wanted to look at it but they kept it. I asked for it back, but they would not give it to me and said that was just for the deposit or something stupid like that. That was after I paid them in full for my 20 days stay. I demanded a receipt and they gave me one that only showed how much I paid. No other details. If I would not have had that when I checked out, I would have had to pay extra as they said I did not pay the full amount.
As I said in my other post, maybe an honest mistake or maybe just a dumb way of doing business. What I know for sure is that the receipt that I demanded saved me from being cheated out of money I didn't owe. I guess from now on I will also have to ask for a receipt when I want the minibar junk removed.
Hi all,
Anyone in Pattaya currently wants to go mongering with me? I prefer to have / be a wingman before I hit the clubs. Makes everything a lot more easier in terms of negotiations, keeping eyes open for scams, exchange options and company while searching for more fun. Had a great time last year. Want to repeat. I stay in Central Pattaya.FIM,
I am back in blre, & suggest you try the floor shows at Angelwitch, WS. No rip off, good girls, Sadly, not many upscale gogos entertain Indians. Blame it on some of us, stingy but wanting all. Set an example, tip lots of respect with the baht s that is mandatory. Most thai girls are sweethearts'
Have you been to rasputin? Recommended soapie, try once. I suggest you avoid beach girls. At the gogos, you see what you get. And good music.
Have fun. Pm me and I can recommend a girl who is not a all out WG. She and sister works on references.
Happy mongering.
Crocodilexp
03-03-14, 17:24
My wife is a prominent fund raiser for AIDS awareness in Chonburi as well as a counsellor for AIDS sufferers and we took a rare venture into Pattaya a few days ago. We walked along Beach Road for the first time in a long time and I could see my wife looking at all the freelancers who were touting for business.
I knew what she was doing and when we got into the car to drive home, she told me that she had counted 57 girls (including ladyboys) who are HIV positive and who regularly receive assistance from her charity.I'm all for telling people to rubber up, but must call pure bullshit on this one.
Chonburi province is covers a large area, has over 2 million people and multiple hospitals.
As others pointed out, your wife must have exceptional memory and face recognitions skills, at night no less (since beach girls no longer hang out in numbers during the day). Assuming her charity from a town 80km away works with the general AIDS population in the province (I. E. Does not focus on Beach Road girls specifically) , she must be able to recall several thousand faces instantly, based on the a brief interaction under different conditions (in terms of lighting, makeup etc). Remarkable feat!
If she was able to personally recognize 57 HIV+ girls on Beach Road, it means there are many times more HIV+ girls who didn't seek help from her charity, or did not interact with your wife specifically (assuming she's not the only person there). Moreover, there are yet more who are not aware of their HIV status or haven't contacted any institutions. Rough back-of-hand calculation (taking a conservative estimate of 4x for the first number and 2x for the second) , says that there must have been 450 HIV+ girls on the beach at that time. More than the total number of working girls there on a typical night.
Again, no chance whatsoever of this being true.
To each their own but I really can't understand why anyone would go mongering on Beach Road.
My wife is a prominent fund raiser for AIDS awareness in Chonburi as well as a counsellor for AIDS sufferers.Nobody 'prominent' is married to a farang sex tourist. ;)
Walking BR last night and this cutie approaches me. I ask if she goes LT and she says yes. I say how much and she says 1200. I didn't see a need to negotiate as that was a fair price so off we go to my room. This lady is 25 and no kids. Nice body and good attitude.
Too bad for those who can never find any lookers or the ones who go for less than 1500. Of course there are those guys who couldn't get laid in a hore house with a wad of $100 bills either. lol
Mr Enternational
03-04-14, 06:35
Walking BR last night and this cutie approaches me. I ask if she goes LT and she says yes. I say how much and she says 1200. I didn't see a need to negotiate as that was a fair price so off we go to my room. This lady is 25 and no kids. Nice body and good attitude.
Too bad for those who can never find any lookers or the ones who go for less than 1500. Of course there are those guys who couldn't get laid in a hore house with a wad of $100 bills either. lolI was on Beach Road yesterday and last night thinking the exact same shit. The biggest problem is deciding which one to choose.
I am back from my vacation at Pattaya for the past 5 days.
Managed to meet Mr. Ent at Lucifer and another friend too. Had an amazing experience this time also, as usual. Covered all live music places, discos along with some go go's too.
Have attached a sample pic of a girl who was over there for the weekend from Bangkok, was a nice pick. She even dropped me back to the airport on her way back to Bangkok.
Even managed to have a good time with a Russian from Mask Club and a Black Girl from Tanzania. They are available towards the end of walking street near the Bali hat pier
Naked Gunz
03-05-14, 11:27
I am back from my vacation at Pattaya for the past 5 days.
Managed to meet Mr. Ent at Lucifer and another friend too. Had an amazing experience this time also, as usual. Covered all live music places, discos along with some go go's too.
Have attached a sample pic of a girl who was over there for the weekend from Bangkok, was a nice pick. She even dropped me back to the airport on her way back to Bangkok.
Even managed to have a good time with a Russian from Mask Club and a Black Girl from Tanzania. They are available towards the end of walking street near the Bali hat pierSo glad you had a great time my friend! That's what life and the forum is all about.
I am back from my vacation at Pattaya for the past 5 days.
Managed to meet Mr. Ent at Lucifer and another friend too. Had an amazing experience this time also, as usual. Covered all live music places, discos along with some go go's too.
Have attached a sample pic of a girl who was over there for the weekend from Bangkok, was a nice pick. She even dropped me back to the airport on her way back to Bangkok.
Even managed to have a good time with a Russian from Mask Club and a Black Girl from Tanzania. They are available towards the end of walking street near the Bali hat pierI reckon this is a 500 baht beach road type hot girl.
JesseJames
03-05-14, 15:05
I stopped by there to inquire about a room. After we agreed on a price I gave them a deposit for the room and they gave me a receipt. Several days later when I came back to check in, they asked for that receipt. I thought they just wanted to look at it but they kept it. I asked for it back, but they would not give it to me and said that was just for the deposit or something stupid like that. That was after I paid them in full for my 20 days stay. I demanded a receipt and they gave me one that only showed how much I paid. No other details. If I would not have had that when I checked out, I would have had to pay extra as they said I did not pay the full amount.
As I said in my other post, maybe an honest mistake or maybe just a dumb way of doing business. What I know for sure is that the receipt that I demanded saved me from being cheated out of money I didn't owe. I guess from now on I will also have to ask for a receipt when I want the minibar junk removed.I usually stay at another hotel but have stayed at AA Residence as a back up. I just call and book a room for that night. They say what time and I tell them. I would never pay 20 days in advance. Who does that? If it was New Year's Eve weekend, I'd give them one night, for a reservation, that's it.
As far as the minibar, sometimes I tell the room boy I'm going to empty it. Usually, I just tuck it into a closet. 12 bottles, big deal. I can do that in 5 minutes. Tell the maid, if you see her. They don't care. People do that all the time. Not using the minibar saves her a trip downstairs to get new bottles.
It seems you didn't lose money, that's good. It just sounds like there was confusion because nobody hands over 20, 000 Baht in advance and they wanted to cover their ass. Probably more than the desk managers monthly salary.
Fast Eddie 48
03-06-14, 01:23
Prices for mongering must have been high in 2000 as the prices now have never been higher since I have been coming here. My first trip was in 2011 and I have been here in high and low season. Pattaya still has good value, but if prices continue to rise at the rate they have been lately, other locations may become interesting to me. Maybe the currency exchange had something to do with your costs?To Hobbyist2.
The Thai Baht is much stronger now than in 2000 one USD is around 45 Bht back then, price for mongering is much lower back then half the price than now even 2011 everything is cheaper than nowdays.
Fast Eddie 48
I usually stay at another hotel but have stayed at AA Residence as a back up. I just call and book a room for that night. They say what time and I tell them. I would never pay 20 days in advance. Who does that? If it was New Year's Eve weekend, I'd give them one night, for a reservation, that's it.
It seems you didn't lose money, that's good. It just sounds like there was confusion because nobody hands over 20, 000 Baht in advance and they wanted to cover their ass. Probably more than the desk managers monthly salary.
Which hotels do you stay at for longer stays with a better rate that don't require the money up front at check in? Also, who said I handed over 20, 000 B?
I have seen someone lose their room to me this trip because they were paying daily. I booked that room for 7 days and the manager told them their room was no longer available and they had to check out and I checked in. OK, I am moving on from this topic.
ShaggedOut
03-07-14, 07:50
I'm all for telling people to rubber up, but must call pure bullshit on this one.
Chonburi province is covers a large area, has over 2 million people and multiple hospitals.
As others pointed out, your wife must have exceptional memory and face recognitions skills, at night no less (since beach girls no longer hang out in numbers during the day). Assuming her charity from a town 80km away works with the general AIDS population in the province (I. E. Does not focus on Beach Road girls specifically) , she must be able to recall several thousand faces instantly, based on the a brief interaction under different conditions (in terms of lighting, makeup etc). Remarkable feat!
If she was able to personally recognize 57 HIV+ girls on Beach Road, it means there are many times more HIV+ girls who didn't seek help from her charity, or did not interact with your wife specifically (assuming she's not the only person there). Moreover, there are yet more who are not aware of their HIV status or haven't contacted any institutions. Rough back-of-hand calculation (taking a conservative estimate of 4x for the first number and 2x for the second) , says that there must have been 450 HIV+ girls on the beach at that time. More than the total number of working girls there on a typical night.
Again, no chance whatsoever of this being true."No chance whatsoever of this being true"!
It's your life but I stand by what I posted. If you choose not to believe it then that is your choice. I know the truth.
Here's is another one that has not quite worked. Yesterday night I went with my affluent friend to a couple of GoGos, he likes Queens in LK metro. They do a couple of masquerade shows and a pole dance one, both are nice to watch. Girls there vary from 6 to virtual 9, almost all have a nice attitude. Of the other I will post the name later, but its a small one, all white inside, has two doors one on WS the other on the bars alley about midway. This one has less attractive, unless you dig the two petite LBs of which one has an hourglass figure that is hard to believe before you see. I will concede she could be an extreme case of a woman, what do I know after all. Anyway, in there he gets hits for more and more drinks, by two girls no less. I managed my boredom being numbed by for entry level beers from different places. He finally gets pissed off by an insisting Tequila pitcher and we took off for a quick tour of Marine Disco a little past 3 am.
There was enough material, I spoke to a young one sitting by herself, her name is Naan. Altough she seemed unconvinced, she accepted 1, 000 for LT, looks were plain but no major fat, she has serious acne anyway. In the room she is nice and jokeful, kisses and gives a decent BJ CIM. After that she made clear that I would had no more because the money was too little. She even added that she gets 1,500 for ST that all that is right and she isn't stupid. Being very tired, In this case I skipped all discussions, gave her the agreed plus taxi money, she dressed up and took the door, leaving behind a ladies watch, some earrings, and the breakfast I had bought. I have no use for the filrst items, but happily shared the second with my regular that came to see me later.
Mr Enternational
03-07-14, 19:04
After 4 long years of lusting I finally went out with and fucked the girl who does my massages. 26 years old. Said she has not had sex in 4 years since coming to Pattaya and leaving her hometown boyfriend. She was screaming bloody murder, but no pain no gain.
Wolvenvacht
03-07-14, 19:42
she dressed up and took the door, leaving behind a ladies watch, some earrings,Get your self some good karma: go find her again and return her stuff.
Mr Enternational
03-08-14, 01:47
Get your self some good karma: go find her again and return her stuff.Good karma? Bwwwwaaa. Did you miss the part about her agreeing to 1000 LT then getting to the room and only doing BJ CIM? Maybe her bad karma was leaving her stuff in his room since she reneged on the deal.
CockTeased
03-08-14, 07:38
"No chance whatsoever of this being true"!
It's your life but I stand by what I posted. If you choose not to believe it then that is your choice. I know the truth.I think Crocodileexp post makes total sense, yours definitely does not, considering all the arguments Crocodilexp counted up one after one after one.
You're lucky I don't report you for writing total BS in this thread, you could at least come up with some convincing statements.
You must be a totally shagged out NGO. Give us a break ok.
CockTeased
03-08-14, 08:02
Me, as a rookie coming to Pattaya and paying 1000 for LT and 500 for ST with attractive freelancers found in discoteques and Beach Road, it really amazes me how easily some of the mongers in here are scammed and fooled with twice the real rates.
I've had one 25 yrs hottie from Insomnia agree to 1000 LT, one 21 yrs hottie from Marine Disco asking nothing but got 1000 LT and one 23 yrs look good from Beach Road agree to 500 ST.
You really have to bargain and keep the real prices low, if they struggle just walk away, and no, I'm no Prince Charming I can promise, if I were I could have stayed at home in my country.
Wolvenvacht
03-08-14, 09:26
Good karma?
Bwwwwaaa.
Did you miss the part about her agreeing to 1000 LT then getting to the room and only doing BJ CIM? Maybe her bad karma was leaving her stuff in his room since she reneged on the deal.Maybe, but consider it a great opportunity to improve both karmic balances: she gave a bad service and karma made her forget her watch and earrings. But on the other hand it was our fellow monger who got the bad service, perhaps to atone for some past transgressions? So he can now rebalance his karma and she will get the chance to show her gratitude and in doing so improve hers as well. Everybody wins! Sadhu sadhu sadhu!
Sorry, little acney's stuff went to the boys that helped me move room today, for a spacious one with some jungle view, for 9,000 a month. I believe I belong to the positive side of Karma anyway, so I'm not worried.
For the daily report, yesterday my affluent friend wanted to play more so we went to the Moon gogo again. They had no draft beer, I did not indicate an alternative, unbeliavably they left me alone for more than 1 hour! My friend waited for past midnight to barfine a girl of his liking, to be honest she looks chubby, plain and boring to me. For the privilege he separated from one of these nice 1K bills. Since it was too early for Lucifer, we went to Candy Shop. There was a dark, tattoed skinny girl sitting at our table I would not taken for free, on the other hand there was another one good looking like 19 yrs that was prime material for those that can play that game. Drink prices are even higher than other place, I took a small bottle of Sam Song for Bt 660, as with all the bottles they will tag and keep it for a further time.
From there we went to Mixx, lots of mixed ethnics young men but very few pretty girls worth, it seemed more like a fattie hip-hop girl gathering. A Chinese-looking Russian was there full of attitude, but she did not even bothered putting make-up on. Truly a seller market as I've been saying since ages. No further damage suffered from me at least, after enough fucking around was had, we all went home, including the girl to her own room.
Der Auslander
03-09-14, 00:45
Me, as a rookie coming to Pattaya and paying 1000 for LT and 500 for ST with attractive freelancers found in discoteques and Beach Road, it really amazes me how easily some of the mongers in here are scammed and fooled with twice the real rates.
I've had one 25 yrs hottie from Insomnia agree to 1000 LT, one 21 yrs hottie from Marine Disco asking nothing but got 1000 LT and one 23 yrs look good from Beach Road agree to 500 ST.
You really have to bargain and keep the real prices low, if they struggle just walk away, and no, I'm no Prince Charming I can promise, if I were I could have stayed at home in my country.Not everyone is prepared to bargain hard. If they want a particular little hottie and she wants 1500 for LT, not everyone is prepared to kill the fun for the sake of 500 baht (or a meal in McDonalds).
Some guys only make it to LOS once or twice a year and are cash rich and time poor. Consequently they don't bother to haggle. I agree this pushes prices up, but not sure if everyone cares specially those who only visit occasionally.
I was telling to a friend, before leaving for Thailand that I was going to grow my cynism with repeated observation of the sad human reality that is here.
For sure the occasions are not lacking. Few examples. At the place where I'm staying there is an elder European gent, he travelled all over Asia since the 60s. He appears lucid and active, mentioned he has a nice house with his GF, but since they are painting (work done by GF "brother") some rooms, it was decided that it would have been "better for him to stay outside". Said lady showed up with a sister driving a nice car yesterday. Without saying a word, they hand him some washed clothes, turned back and drive away. I could not tell if the gent was embarassed with by that, yet he still calls her "my baby" and awaits her calls all the time.
My rich friend also seen the scene and remarked on the disrespect. Unfortunately he's not doing much better. Yesterday he barfined the same girl for the third time, we went to Differ, one of these regular clubs for Thais. As the wiskey bottle and sodas bill come, I hand him an 1K note to cover my part. His girl grabs it and put it in her bra with one of these smiles. He seemed puzzled for a second, then he shrugs shoulders and let her keep it. She's just 19 but for sure knows how to play it. I don't know how much my friend had tought of giving her for the non-sexual company, but where do I come from, payments are given not grabbed. He then apologized to me about it, to which I could only reply that it was his money already. I don't know if and how I should tell him that he should stop being an idiot, as for someone having business in Thailand, and speaking some Thai, he could do without this treatment.
We were also joined by another foreigner with business in Thailand, he brought his GF (supposedly she runs a bar) and chubby tagger, also noticeable in lack of empathy. The 19 yrs old immedialy took a dislike to these three and vice-versa. What a pitiful time. There were a Thai couple sitting there, possibly the only genuinely friendly people I've seen that night. We partied with them a little, later on my friend told me that this Thai lady got her phone stolen from the table. Who has took it, we don't know.
Finally we ended at Mixx. For a change, a small cute Thai spinner showed up. Her request 2K take or leave it, I passed. On the other side there was Uzbekistan ladies social club in full swing. My friend said the request was to be 5K, I said 4K and in the end I guessed right, that from a mature fat woman of uncertain hair color, that claimed to be actually Russian.
Have to say I'm not exempt from misery either, for one I have to stop wasting money with booze that I don't even like. I'm also considering actively praying for better luck.
ConquerorVal
03-09-14, 13:47
I was telling to a friend, before leaving for Thailand that I was going to grow my cynism with repeated observation of the sad human reality that is here.Another great story. Thanks for keeping it real!
Der Auslander
03-09-14, 17:46
I was telling to a friend, before leaving for Thailand that I was going to grow my cynism with repeated observation of the sad human reality that is here.You are to be commended for your reports and writing skills. One of the few who I wish would post more often.
CockTeased
03-10-14, 00:13
I was telling to a friend, before leaving for Thailand that I was going to grow my cynism with repeated observation of the sad human reality that is here.
For sure the occasions are not lacking. Few examples. At the place where I'm staying there is an elder European gent, he travelled all over Asia since the 60s. He appears lucid and active, mentioned he has a nice house with his GF, but since they are painting (work done by GF "brother") some rooms, it was decided that it would have been "better for him to stay outside". Said lady showed up with a sister driving a nice car yesterday. Without saying a word, they hand him some washed clothes, turned back and drive away. I could not tell if the gent was embarassed with by that, yet he still calls her "my baby" and awaits her calls all the time.
My rich friend also seen the scene and remarked on the disrespect. Unfortunately he's not doing much better. Yesterday he barfined the same girl for the third time, we went to Differ, one of these regular clubs for Thais. As the wiskey bottle and sodas bill come, I hand him an 1K note to cover my part. His girl grabs it and put it in her bra with one of these smiles. He seemed puzzled for a second, then he shrugs shoulders and let her keep it. She's just 19 but for sure knows how to play it. I don't know how much my friend had tought of giving her for the non-sexual company, but where do I come from, payments are given not grabbed. He then apologized to me about it, to which I could only reply that it was his money already. I don't know if and how I should tell him that he should stop being an idiot, as for someone having business in Thailand, and speaking some Thai, he could do without this treatment.
We were also joined by another foreigner with business in Thailand, he brought his GF (supposedly she runs a bar) and chubby tagger, also noticeable in lack of empathy. The 19 yrs old immedialy took a dislike to these three and vice-versa. What a pitiful time. There were a Thai couple sitting there, possibly the only genuinely friendly people I've seen that night. We partied with them a little, later on my friend told me that this Thai lady got her phone stolen from the table. Who has took it, we don't know.
Finally we ended at Mixx. For a change, a small cute Thai spinner showed up. Her request 2K take or leave it, I passed. On the other side there was Uzbekistan ladies social club in full swing. My friend said the request was to be 5K, I said 4K and in the end I guessed right, that from a mature fat woman of uncertain hair color, that claimed to be actually Russian.
Have to say I'm not exempt from misery either, for one I have to stop wasting money with booze that I don't even like. I'm also considering actively praying for better luck.I can understand how you are feeling El Flaco, I have only been to TH and Pattaya for one week but already thinking of leaving to see if BKK is better. Sure I have succeeded to pay 500 for ST and 1000 for LT but honestly, Pattaya has a rough, hardened athmosphere, far more hardened than Patong and I hope that BKK will be friendlier than here.
Also, the average age of hookers here are too high. I think I will be leaving with the bus to BKK already tomorrow.
Eric Swiss
03-10-14, 03:38
i went to the airport go-go bar on walking street around 10:30pm. i sat down sipping my beer and waiting to see what would happen. next to me a group of guys were discussing playfully with a bargirl whose body i liked. when the guys left i turned to her and said: "i thought you would leave with one of those guys". she replied the guy had a girlfriend, which i translated in my head as "he didn't want me bad enough". well, his loss is my gain.
she came next to me and i bought her a lady drink. her name was dan, which was a bit weird because in the us it's a guy's name but this is thailand so i guess anything goes. she got me hard just by kissing me and grinding her shapely and barely covered buttocks on the front of my blue jeans. that was as much confirmation as i required and we started discussing bar fine, short-time fee, etc. she asked what i liked to do in the sack, and stupidly i did not say anything. i realized later that it's the time to come out with requests that are beyond the regular menu. when i was ready to pay the barfine, she made a move as if i would pay it to her, but i've been accused by a mamasan at a go-go bar in bangkok of not having paid a bar fine on a previous visit, so now i'm prudent and only pay the barfine to a waitress directly.
we went to the short-time hotel. i was behind her walking up the stairs and could not tear my eyes off the bum and the legs waving right under my nose with every step. it's almost always the best moment of the evening because of its qualities of voyeurism and anticipation. i put my valuables in the safe, as giant posters rep001tered throughout the hotel ordered me to. she pretended to take offence at that. she said ladyboys were thieves but she was honest and i did not need to use the safe. i pretended i always obeyed official instructions posted on the wall. obviously that's a lie because many massage shops i patronize have a poster saying absolutely definitely no sexual act of any kind must take place in this room, and that's usually where the horniest masseuses start sucking my dick even before the shower is over, but i digress.
i took the excuse of this discussion to ask her if she was a ladyboy. she said "why, are you afraid of ladyboys?" i'm used to shaming tactics where anything you say is turned into a mental disease and an evidence of irrationality, like trans-phobia or whatever it's called these days by the masters of political correctness in the west, so i didn't fall for that. i said asking if she's a ladyboy is a fair question and i like to be informed. anyway she said she had a baby, so that pretty much stopped this line of enquiry.
after the shower, the rest is kind of a blur, so i won't bother describing it overly precisely, but i do remember feeling that the service was excellent. at one point i asked for rimming, she pretended not to hear / understand, and i let it drop. later, i asked to come in her mouth, and maybe that was more to her liking, or she felt bad about refusing two consecutive requests, so she complied. it was a really good feeling and she took it like the pro that she is.
all in all a very nice experience. i like airport because the girls there are a bit less shy about initiating eye contact than at sensations. even though sensations has more quality girls on display, they look less flirtatious. i went back to airport the next day and dan said hi to me again with a big smile, but i told her i wanted a different girl so she left me alone without displaying any hint of bitterness, which i thought was respectful of her.
the damage:
beer 120 baht.
lady drink 135 baht.
bar fine 700 baht.
short-time hotel 350 baht.
condom 15 baht.
short time 2000 baht.
tip 200 baht.
total: 3520 baht
ShaggedOut
03-10-14, 04:43
I think Crocodileexp post makes total sense, yours definitely does not, considering all the arguments Crocodilexp counted up one after one after one.
You're lucky I don't report you for writing total BS in this thread, you could at least come up with some convincing statements.
You must be a totally shagged out NGO. Give us a break ok.I feel so honored that you have not reported me. Some people will just not accept the truth, I really don't give a flying fuck if you take home some exotic disease. I could shoot down Croc's post but what's the point of getting involved in a pissing match on a sex site. Just carry on shagging BR hookers if that is your choice, good luck!
I was telling to a friend, before leaving for Thailand that I was going to grow my cynism with repeated observation of the sad human reality that is here.
Few examples. At the place where I'm staying there is an elder European gent, he travelled all over Asia since the 60s. He appears lucid and active, mentioned he has a nice house with his GF, but since they are painting (work done by GF "brother") some rooms, it was decided that it would have been "better for him to stay outside". Said lady showed up with a sister driving a nice car yesterday. Without saying a word, they hand him some washed clothes, turned back and drive away. I could not tell if the gent was embarassed with by that, yet he still calls her "my baby" and awaits her calls all the time.
My rich friend also seen the scene and remarked on the disrespect. Unfortunately he's not doing much better. Yesterday he barfined the same girl for the third time, we went to Differ, one of these regular clubs for Thais. As the wiskey bottle and sodas bill come, I hand him an 1K note to cover my part. His girl grabs it and put it in her bra with one of these smiles. He seemed puzzled for a second, then he shrugs shoulders and let her keep it. She's just 19 but for sure knows how to play it. I don't know how much my friend had tought of giving her for the non-sexual company, but where do I come from, payments are given not grabbed. He then apologized to me about it, to which I could only reply that it was his money already. I don't know if and how I should tell him that he should stop being an idiot, as for someone having business in Thailand, and speaking some Thai, he could do without this treatment.
Have to say I'm not exempt from misery either, for one I have to stop wasting money with booze that I don't even like. I'm also considering actively praying for better luck.Your friend is either a sucker or a fool or both. I say fool because he is being used and he knows it. If some of these ladys think you are weak and you are easy prey, then they will take advantage of you. The thing is he lets them. I have no pitty for people like that. There are many ladies here who would take good care of this man and treat him with respect, but they are closer to the 30 yr range or above and not 19. You didn't say how old he is, but since he has been traveling since the 60s, I can only imagine.
Pattaya has a lot to do with what you make of it. There are issues here and I could list many, but what is an issue for me may be nothing to others. I don't drink or smoke and I stay away from go go joints. Also, I would never try to paint some pseudo utopia about this place and I can complain about it with the best complainers here. However, I make the best I can of what this place is and then just deal with the parts that annoy the heck out of me or I could go somewhere else. Of course I would then have to deal with the issues that any other place would have. I have been here over 2 months so far this trip and I can say that I am very happy. Although I do look forward to going home and also returning again. Good luck.
Anyone notice the R4 cooktail girl who is trying her hand at being a provider of explicit sex. Not much interest in her. Not ugly by any means but not all that pretty either. Kind of sad to see such things.
Your friend is either a sucker or a fool or both. I say fool because he is being used and he knows it. If some of these ladys think you are weak and you are easy prey, then they will take advantage of you. The thing is he lets them. I have no pitty for people like that. There are many ladies here who would take good care of this man and treat him with respect, but they are closer to the 30 yr range or above and not 19. You didn't say how old he is, but since he has been traveling since the 60s, I can only imagine.Absolutely. There is actually two guys in the story, one is the elder European, and the other is my friend, not so old, not European, but wealthy. Yesterday we went again to The Moon. By now all girls know us, and flock to him as he's a ladydrinks buyer, while they only smile and make small talk to me that I'm not. That was to be finally the time for him to take chubby 19yrs old to his room. Barfined, she gets dressed (nothing impressive) and as we walk back to the car, she starts walking ahead, I look at her and she had put up a shitty face. There the penny finally dropped. I asked her what was wrong with her, she said she was't happy because she was not making the 50 drinks monthly quota. I could not stay silent any longer and told her how bad she was, having a good customer and talking such bullshit. Luckly the truth dawned to my friend too, returned her to the bar, in less than 2 minutes the barfine was refunded by a sorry mamasan on a tray. My friend told me he had asked the girl the night before to shampoo, thing that she did not even bothered doing, perhaps it was that that made him finally click. I whish she has learned the lesson, but I'm sure she didn't. She will get just lazier and fatter.
Afterward we worked Mixx briefly, strangely enough there were a few FLs by the "techno" room, one was cute enough but played the idiotic "stay with my friends" BS, we would not take them all, so moved on to Queen in LK. Around 3am all places are closing and you can try to make a deal outside the bar, for a try I approached the slim, decently breasted woman that must be allergic to panties, as she never wore them. She said it would have been ok as long done discretely. 1,500 for "medium time". I just dragged my foot to no deal. At 3:15 sharp the last remaining girls ran away off from the podium and everyone called it a night.
i stopped by [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s at their new (to me) location. they are next to a bar called "balls", so i homed in on the "balls" sign. homing in on balls does have me questioning my sexual orientation, but whatever works.
first floor smelled like the toilet, or perhaps many toilets, had overflowed, producing a biblical-proportioned cascade of turds cascading through the place, but, to sorely mix metaphors, some modern day moses had parted the brown sea by the time i got there. the upstairs was not similarly scented, so life was good, as apparently it is in the room next to mine as i write this: this guy is either getting great sex or pounding out a huge log.
the provider (back to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. not the turd) was a chunky little thing, but had pretty good technique. not a lot of attention to the peripherals, but a good, solid sucker. still, as is my increasingly unfortunate custom, i kept her at it for a lot longer than would have been desirable, but she was a real trooper.
okay, maybe my neighbor is actually physically ill. that sounded like a mighty kaleidoscopic yawn followed by some dry-heave aftershocks.
i'll definitely repeat at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s: good service, good a / c, rooms that smelled better than the lobby, etc, though i should probably try the competition as well. a tough task, but i feel that i am up to it.
i stopped by [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s at their new (to me) location. they are next to a bar called "balls", so i homed in on the "balls" sign. homing in on balls does have me questioning my sexual orientation, but whatever works.
first floor smelled like the toilet, or perhaps many toilets, had overflowed, producing a biblical-proportioned cascade of turds cascading through the place, but, to sorely mix metaphors, some modern day moses had parted the brown sea by the time i got there. the upstairs was not similarly scented, so life was good, as apparently it is in the room next to mine as i write this: this guy is either getting great sex or pounding out a huge log.
the provider (back to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. not the turd) was a chunky little thing, but had pretty good technique. not a lot of attention to the peripherals, but a good, solid sucker. still, as is my increasingly unfortunate custom, i kept her at it for a lot longer than would have been desirable, but she was a real trooper.
okay, maybe my neighbor is actually physically ill. that sounded like a mighty kaleidoscopic yawn followed by some dry-heave aftershocks.
i'll definitely repeat at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s: good service, good a / c, rooms that smelled better than the lobby, etc, though i should probably try the competition as well. a tough task, but i feel that i am up to it.ahahah! i could not skip quoting any part of your posting because all are funny and fantasiously written! keep doing and consider cologne soaked cotton up your nostrils for a next time!
Ahahah! I could not skip quoting any part of your posting because all are funny and fantasiously written! Keep doing and consider cologne soaked cotton up your nostrils for a next time!Maybe just try the Bliss Lounge just a short walk east on Third Road.
CarelessChap
03-11-14, 20:16
Dear all,
Would like to know the best way (website / agency / area) to call up a Foreigner Massuesse to Hotel Room and get good massage & FS both?
Thanks in Advance.
This a city, which is very much oriented towards tourism, including plenty sex-tourism in some parts of the town, like near the beach. Two of the main streets, with major nightlife that I checked out, are walking street and beach road. Walking street is about 1 mile long, and has a lot of go-go bars, cafe, noisy music, light ads and girls everywhere. As in someother streets in Pattaya, it can smell rather strange. I think it must be the sewers. Things can get pretty loud and crazy there as well, but I would not say it gets dangerous. Police is present here and there, and they mix on the street with all the working girls, tourists and people that want to sell all their things to the tourists. Most of the bars stay open until 3 AM or even later. I would say 10% to 20% of the girls are lady-boys. Hard to see sometimes whether they are a real woman / girl or not. Some of the prettiest girls you will see, are lady boys. Many of the (real) girls, are rather average, I think there is more quality to be found in Bangkok. Yet, if you look long enough, you will find someone.
On walking street, my guess is that 50% of all the Thai women there, are working girls or go-go girls. Many of the young and pretty ones stand in front of the club, to lure or draw in the customers. They sometimes literally pull you into the go-go club. Anyway, you can always take a look and walk out again rather quickly, if you don't like it. I checked out a bunch of them, but was not too impressed. I did like the the rather naughty Windmill go-go club, near the middle of walking street. Nice girls, and some of show their pretty pussies, while dancing. Just google it (Pattaya windmill go go) and you will find it. Bar-fine is 700 baht. Short time (ST = 1 to max 2 hours) is 2000 baht, but you can always try to negotiate to a lower fee with the lady.
On walking street there are also some Russian cafe's and bars, even a Russian strip bar. My impression is that about half or more of all the tourists are from Russia or countries close to Russia. My observation: the prettiest women you will see here (this time of year?) are often the Russian tourists. I saw stunning 9's and 10's. Of course they are not WG.
The beach road is the continuation of walking street (in south Pattaya) and several miles long. It has many side streets which are stuffed with bars, cafes, restaurants and of course massage parlours. Some are traditional onex, and others offer something extra like HJ or FS. You see the difference by looking at the name. Happy "this or that" massage, as well as the girls in front of it says it all. If they are 40+, you know this is a normal place. Are most of the girls 18-30, well, then you get the picture. On beach road you will find plenty street walkers. For them there is no bar fine ofc. Again, many ladyboys. I would say 20-30%. They will try even harder than the real girls to get your attention. My guess is that starting from some 500 baht, they are willing to do ST. Anyway, since it is not my thing, I'm not interested. The ladies there, start from about 700 Baht for short time. Most will accept 1000 baht, but this is dependent on their age and good or not so good looks. I picked a nice girl (7 on a scale of 1-10) from Cambodia there, for 90 minutes. 1000 baht, which offered good service. Most the WG's here though are too rough around the edges or just plain too old for me. (I mean 40+, sorry ladies)
The other option you have here, on both streets, are the bars and beer gardens. You will find easily some 100 girls in the big ones, spread over several smaller bars, all inside one hall or mall. They will yell at you (come here, take me, sexy man, etc.) when you walk by and try to get you into their bar. If you see anyone you like, you buy yourself and / or the lady a drink. (starts at some 60 baht) Bar fine is around 300 baht. ST is pretty standard around 1000-1200 and long time can be 2000 and up. But all fees are negotiable, as always.
My assessment: the go-go girls are the best. They are also the ones who ask most for their services, but as in most cases, you get what you pay for. 2700 baht for 2 hours of good service (60 Euro, or 90 USD) is not bad at all. If you are willing to take the risk, you can however get lucky and find a streetwalker who will give you a good time, for 800 baht or so. The main risk is that I think these girls do not get regular (or even any) health checks.
So there it is. Thailand still is one the best countries for this hobby I think. Have fun, enjoy and treat the WG's you meet with respect please.
Dutch44
I would say 10% to 20% of the girls are lady-boys. Hard to see sometimes whether they are a real woman / girl or not. Some of the prettiest girls you will see, are lady boys. Many of the (real) girls, are rather average, I think there is more quality to be found in Bangkok. Yet, if you look long enough, you will find someone.
On beach road you will find plenty street walkers. For them there is no bar fine ofc. Again, many ladyboys. I would say 20-30.
My assessment: the go-go girls are the best. They are also the ones who ask most for their services, but as in most cases, you get what you pay for. 2700 baht for 2 hours of good service (60 Euro, or 90 USD) is not bad at all. Dutch44Dutch44,
Beside the fact that you have written your report as if it was meant for some kind of tourist site (LOL, no offence but here at the ISG a lot of the info you give is known for decades already) there are 2 things that I would like to comment on (only 2, I will be mild).
There are indeed quite a lot of ladyboys to be found on Beach Road but I would say the total percentage is less than 5. If it was 20-30% then this would mean that 2 or 3 out of every 10 working girls you see there would be a lady boy! This is certainly not the case. Also 10-20% for the whole of Pattaya is way too high.
I think the majority of the members and readers of this board totally disagree with you when you say that the go-go girls are the best. On the contrary, they are the worst. I suggest you read a lot of the reports in this thread.
Well, D44 report is a bit didascalic, but can be useful to some. Exact percentage of ladyboys can just be guessed, however it's true that there are a lot.
Having visited some gogos recently I must agree that the best looking girls are to be found there. For many men, best looking girls is equivalent to best girls. Then service is another story but I think it would be prejudicial to say that gogo girls never give good service.
Anyone notice the R4 cooktail girl who is trying her hand at being a provider of explicit sex. Not much interest in her. Not ugly by any means but not all that pretty either. Kind of sad to see such things.HiHarold, R4 is in BKK isn't? This is the Pattaya forum.
Having visited some gogos recently I must agree that the best looking girls are to be found there. For many men, best looking girls is equivalent to best girls. Then service is another story but I think it would be prejudicial to say that gogo girls never give good service.I do agree with you, the best looking girls does not assuring to have the best service at all. For me I got the goodies, after repeating investment for the same gogo girl to make me satisfied as well.
Has Harold returned with another new name? Hiihii
i posted most of this on a local forum. hope there isn't some etiquette about repeating here.
as suggested, i upgraded from [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s to bliss. i decided that it was moto-taxi time, as i was pretty much at the very end of my non-heat exhaustion range when i reached [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s. i naturally found a driver who knew nothing of bliss lounge, so i invoked my awesome mastery of the thai language (i can count to a hundred, say hello, thank-you, and excuse me. and that is about it) and we had a lively discussion about something or other, but eventually i managed to blurt out 'sai sam' and 'soi ysip sam', or something like that, and off we went. i pounded the tiny helmet onto my head extra hard, somewhat disturbed by the fact that not one – i've had that before – but both of the old guy's eyes were very cloudy. probably why he's still riding at that age: has no idea how close to death he comes on virtually every fare.
eventually i was deposited across the street from bliss and spent most of the afternoon in the broiling sun trying to cross the damned thing. i now feel terrible guilt for abusing the little guy in frogger long ago. if that made no sense to you, you have a lot more quarters (or whatever) in your pockets than i do.
i did the luck of the draw thing again and again got a chubby. actually a good thing in a way, but i'm really grasping at straws here, whatever that means: [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s was an equally full-figured young lady, so a variable has been removed from the comparison.
i could tell bliss was a class place because the lobby was missing the stench of fetid [CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113). that may be why the extra hundred baht: the shipping fee to deliver their [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116) to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s.
we ascended to perhaps the second floor, then went through a series of doors that somehow made me think of the start of get smart years ago. the room was certainly nicer, a recliner-type seat (not sure if it actually reclined) instead of the sofa, and a bed, presumably for the next class up of service. i tried to get a second towel for my back so that my fellow mongers were not mopping up my sweat with their shirts or backs, but that was apparently well outside the budget, so she unfolded the one on the seat cushion and held it in place as i sat down. problem solved.
what followed was a truly remarkable blow job. there was the blow job foreplay – licking, nibbling, finding the peanut butter, finding the dog, etc. oh, wait those last two don't apply here – followed by the main course. this girl, whose name i did not understand (sorry) , bobbed for almost thirty minutes straight. maybe a dozen hand strokes in there, but otherwise when she needed a break she just went with the soft, sensuous strokes instead of the jaw-punishing power technique. awesome!
i really need to figure out why it consistently takes me so long. i shouldn't be complaining – i get my money's worth – but a deep feeling of guilt starts kicking in after twenty minutes or so, which really interferes with the various fantasies i'm conjuring up to hurry matters, fantasies mostly involving other humans, possibly in a south american prison.
at any rate, when the main event eventually, uh. came, it was apparently in keeping with the time involved in producing it, but she hung in there as it unfolded. and unfolded. there was a lot of spitting and tissues afterward.
then the only real downer: while i admire all her dedication and her work ethic, i have to say this was the first girl i've had who seemed to genuinely resent the length of the battle. no, i don't think others were tickled to spend half an hour bobbing on an increasingly sweaty falang's manhood, but afterward they put the best face on it – the one where the mouth smiles. this one was pretty dour, even after a fairly generous tip. left sort of a bad taste in my mouth, which admittedly is pretty much what i did to hers, though not in quite as literal a sense.
FruitNinja
03-20-14, 11:59
In Manila and going to Pattaya. Any recommendations on airfare? I thought I read a while back of direct flight but all I can find is to BKK. Any other options?
Mr Enternational
03-20-14, 13:04
In Manila and going to Pattaya. Any recommendations on airfare? I thought I read a while back of direct flight but all I can find is to BKK. Any other options?The closet airport to Pattaya is Utapao (UTP) http://www.utapao.com/#fragment-13. I think there are charter flights from Russia that go there but I'm pretty sure there are no scheduled flights from Manila. You will have to go to Bangkok.
FN,
Pattaya is just 90 min by road from BKK.
Takes longer to town from airport in many other cities!
And worth every cent to a mongering paradise!
Relax and enjoy!
NM
In Manila and going to Pattaya. Any recommendations on airfare? I thought I read a while back of direct flight but all I can find is to BKK. Any other options?
CC,
By foreigner, if you mean European, then don't waste your time and money, I have wasted enough, mostly in vain. The available ones are the rejects from say, east Europe, etc.
Over my 14 trips to Pattaya, I have realised that Thai ladies are much more feminine, caring, flexible and good in bed. Less attitude too!
In Pattaya, you don't have to call up sex- sex finds you, just go through the earlier reports of seniors.
Now, if you want an agency as such, try "Devils Den". Google for more details.
Scour the many bars and soapies. You will soon have a guest in your bed.
Happy mongering!
NM
Dear all,
Would like to know the best way (website / agency / area) to call up a Foreigner Massuesse to Hotel Room and get good massage & FS both?
Thanks in Advance.
I continue to be a real fan of soi 6, as it's empowering to have a good afternoon there and then be able to go eat or do whatever with friends, maybe go see the go-gos and not think you have to take anyone. Hunting the beer bars is surprisingly hard and frustrating work at times, and in high season you can't expect to show up at 10 or 11 and get something good. Go-go pricing, meanwhile, is getting to be more like Bangkok, and this coyote bit doesn't seem to be done at all for the benefit of the customers (more like just trying to outsource the recruitment headaches).
I crowdsourced some of the soi 6 girls based on recommendations from posts from people who are addicts. Bee at Lisa 2 was past her prime on appearance but must have invested time in Kegels or whatever, as she could do the contraction thing that made the difference with the happy ending. Also a homespun sort of personality. Tried to get Nam at Full Moon, but it was the wrong time of her month, and after some sales pitching I took (Full Moon's) Bee. This Bee looked enough like a possible ladyboy to have to assure people she wasn't. But she'd do 3 holes and that clinched the deal. The thing about that is that when you've got 3 as a possibility, many if not most girls will try harder to do it in 2, so either they're successful or, in my case, you might need the third. And the third made the difference, even though Bee was very athletic with the first two, especially when on top.
BTW, pricing in most places has gone up to B1000 + the loom (300-350) , vs. 700+300/350 before.
Then. 2 days before heading back, I finally connected with the legendary Chompoo at My Friend You. She was never the first girl someone would pick if going by looks and not knowing better, but she has by far the most positive (usually rave) reviews of any girl on the soi for performance. She's the only girl who has ever consistently been able to get the whole job done orally for me, and it's all a sensation that's an experience in itself. She's also flawless on the fine points of service (stuff like handing you a drink or putting on your shoes that most girls don't bother with anymore). For the B1000 I got service even above what I'd been getting for B700-ish, with the oral interrupted by two long rims so I had time to recharge on the route to the grand finale CIM. She also does a post-finale lick / massage routine I hadn't seen before, as well as filling out time before or after with a massage and never seeming rushed. She's always been focused on customer satisfaction but has gotten even more so (asking about it now) , as she knows that repeat customers and word of mouth are key to keeping the career going if you don't often get picked on the basis of looks alone. Can't recommend Chompoo enough. She'll do 3 holes or 3-somes, it's reported, but the exceptional oral skills are the thing for me.
If someone's had an unusually long career on soi 6 or looks below average and / or older than average, there's often a good performance reason for it.
Also tried the first street girl for me in ages around soi 9 for B600 and it worked out well. I have low sensitivity and will try to overcome that somewhat with polyisoprene condoms (or whatever the latest thing is there, though the old polyurethane ones were notorious for breaking!). But often the make-or-break thing is whether the girl is orgasmic. So a girl in a low-cost venue, like Beach Road at B500-700 or the Biergarten in Bangkok for 1000, who's orgasmic can be a valuable asset. With that and a good roster in a place like soi 6 you can be pickier with other venues or more selective about the more-expensive take-outs (as I'm no longer in my 20s or 30s and am proud if I can successfully complete more than one covered session in day).
Naked Gunz
03-22-14, 10:23
am hearing the police are pulling over tourists on mc / motorbikes and confirep001ing them if the tourists does not have a thai license. they are running some scam with the bike renters who say it's ok to rent with a home country or international dl. what's the word from the man in the street?
Patts is celebrating the annual Music Festival so Beach Road is completley covered with street vendors selling hats and pineapples. Messes with my plan to grab a few from the Coconut Bar. Oh well.
Just left Culture Club Massage, always my first stop within three hours or reaching Pattaya. Been doing this three or four times / year for four years, always get the "everything" treatment for THB 300 for the one-hour massage plus 500 or so for the "everything" from the girl. Girls are not stunners, but always pretty and pleasant and good service. As I entered the shop a few hours ago there were only two girls, one young, tall, slim beauty and the second appeared to be a lady girl. The young pretty one, Mya took me back to the back room, good thing because if lady boy had come to the room I was leaving! Mya said she is 20 years old and I see no reason to doubt her (wears braces on her teeth). Really pretty, nice round ass, long legs. I feared she was too young and pretty to offer any specials to an old fart like me, but within 10 minutes she was asking if I wanted boom boom. Jackpot! I was prepared to go above my normal THB 500 for this so I asked her price, she said 1, 300. For some reason this hit me wrong, made me a bit angry, I lost my hard-on and decided I would just get up and leave. But we negotiated a hand job for 300 (started at 500) and off she went. She did a great job, and that cute, young pouty bottom lip and long legs helped get me off in about five minutes, and I'm usually good for 20 or 30.
As I was leaving I thought, you idiot. She is in the top 5 most beautiful girls of the 150 you've had and U-turned her down for USD 45? God I'm stupid.
I should add to my report that Culture Club massage is on Soi 11 on Second Street, just behind the Hilton Beach Road. God I'm still stupid.
Can you guys stop qualifying your reports by saying " the girl wasn't the best in looks or something similiar" It ruins the fantasy of thinking guys getting pretty girls for 500 bahts. LOL.
As I was leaving I thought, you idiot. She is in the top 5 most beautiful girls of the 150 you've had and U-turned her down for USD 45? God I'm stupid.The first instinct was probably an overreaction, but it's important not to ruin the market, so in that sense you helped the rest of us. Better play likely would have been to try to knock down the 1300 some. In some MPs, like Nataree in Bangkok, they tend to stagger the pricing FOR you, with newer (e. G. First 2 weeks or less) or prettier ones quoted higher. OTOH I can't always tell visually between a newer one and someone who's worked awhile but still is in early 20's.
Others may play it differently, but with soapy MPs I always insist on a girl who'll do the raft routine. That used to be something you could just assume, but in some cases nowadays it narrows the field considerably, even though it has negligible effect on price. MPs are a good example of where average to slightly above average lookers can compensate a lot with good skills.
Can you guys stop qualifying your reports by saying " the girl wasn't the best in looks or something similiar" It ruins the fantasy of thinking guys getting pretty girls for 500 bahts. LOL.Hi,
I go to Thailand every year. Getting pretty girls for 500 Baut is not unheard of. I have had many beautiful girls for 500. I did notice in the past two years more girls want 700 baut. Now this will not be popular to say and please save the flaming. It also depends on how you look. Your age, shape cleanliness. If you are in your 20's or 30's and good looking you can get a better deal. If you are in your 40's and decent looking but charming there is still room to negotiate. After 50, 60s ect the girls want 1000 baut or more.
I will add the best deals is when Thailand is busy in the high season. The most expensive is when Thailand is in the slow season. When business is slow thai mind is to raise the price.
I should add to my report that Culture Club massage is on Soi 11 on Second Street, just behind the Hilton Beach Road. God I'm still stupid.Well, Soi 11 isn't really behind the Hilton. The tumruat (cops) are soi 9 and beach road. 1 way between beach and 2nd. And that is about 150m from soi 9 to Central Festival *where the Hilton is. Soi 11 would be "Honey Inn" going from 2nd to Buakhao. Minor detail, tho.
After swinging and missing a few days ago in Singapore and last night in Pattaya, this morning (8. 9:00) I was walking Beach Road near Mike's Shopping Center and found several girls hanging around, actually across the street from the Beach since the Beach side of the road is completely consumed by small tents for the Music Festival. I walked by several girls all dressed for business, saw four (out of about 10) who looked good, a few maybe too polished (my thoughts; either lady boy's who seem to be all over BR in the morning) or too professional to give good service). I spotted a very short, dark-skinned Thai with a great smile just outside Starbucks. Pom, wanted 1, 000 short time. I offered one million, and after a few good laughs and some negotiation she accepted 500. We had a great time, BBBJ, condom-on for the main event, and afterward she lay in my arms and we watched TV, I think she was enjoyinig the rest and air conditioning. And I'm sure she was waiting for me to rally for a second shot, but more and more seems I'm content with one long round rather than the two shots with which I used to be obsessed. So I offered her my shower, she accepted and I gave her THB 700. I love Pattaya!
mya said she is 20 years old and i see no reason to doubt her (wears braces on her teeth).
as i was leaving i thought, you idiot. she is in the top 5 most beautiful girls of the 150 you've had and u-turned her down for usd 45? god i'm stupid.some of the ladies wear faux braces to play the little girl [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) and motivate their customers. works for me.
if you really think you missed an opportunity go back and repeat with her. i have found that repeat visits pay dividends, as the ladies are complimented and there is already familiarity established.
sunlover
CheekyDancer
03-23-14, 17:55
Hello everyone. It's been a while since I visited Thailand so I am thinking to do a couple of months over there. I am looking for the answers to a few questions.
What are the going rates these days for girls. Overnight, short time, the whole week etc.
Are there still white girl clubs over there.
Any ideas on a good company to rent a condo close to the walking street from. Noting that I may be renting for a couple of months.
Thanks in advance.
Any ideas on a good company to rent a condo close to the walking street from. Noting that I may be renting for a couple of months.Http://www.dancewatchers.com/
Khun Tik and her crew are nonpareil. If you want to be close to "the walking street," check out her listings for View Talay 6.
am hearing the police are pulling over tourists on mc / motorbikes and confirep001ing them if the tourists does not have a thai license. they are running some scam with the bike renters who say it's ok to rent with a home country or international dl. what's the word from the man in the street?during my feb14 stay in pattaya i did notice this first hand. farangs were being stopped way too often which i didn't see on previous 2 occasions so there is definately some truth in what you have heard.
Fast Eddie 48
03-25-14, 00:17
Hello everyone. It's been a while since I visited Thailand so I am thinking to do a couple of months over there. I am looking for the answers to a few questions.
What are the going rates these days for girls. Overnight, short time, the whole week etc.
Are there still white girl clubs over there.
Any ideas on a good company to rent a condo close to the walking street from. Noting that I may be renting for a couple of months.
Thanks in advance.To Cheeky.
You should know better if you been to Pattaya or you just a Lurker ask dumb ass question, it all depend where you get the girl price level is different bt Quality of the girl and how much you can afford.
Fast Eddie 48
Hiihi,
I go to Thailand every year. Getting pretty girls for 500 Baut is not unheard of. I have had many beautiful girls for 500. I did notice in the past two years more girls want 700 baut. Now this will not be popular to say and please save the flaming. It also depends on how you look. Your age, shape cleanliness. If you are in your 20's or 30's and good looking you can get a better deal. If you are in your 40's and decent looking but charming there is still room to negotiate. After 50, 60s ect the girls want 1000 baut or more.
I will add the best deals is when Thailand is busy in the high season. The most expensive is when Thailand is in the slow season. When business is slow thai mind is to raise the price.I must be very hansum and charming because I get nice looking ladies for 1000. 1200 baht for LT and I am pushing 60. Also decent lookers for 500. 700 for ST, which I rarely do. I told one she could come to my room every night for awhile if she wanted. She would show up at about 8:00 pm and leave after we finished the morning session. One lady was 25, one was 27 and one was 30. These were my regulars and each one was good looking.
I have not found low season to be more expensive. I found it to be about the same for ladies, but cheaper for hotels. However, the best deals are when the lady is in more need of money. This is sometimes due to lack of customers and rent is due. They do have to eat, pay rent and in many cases send money home to support kids / parents. Seems to happen more in low season than high in my experience.
The "Bibs" are very busy right now in Pattaya. They are trying to recover income from ticket revenue they lost when many of them were called up to Bangkok to help monitor the large demonstrations. Also, keep in mind Songkran is coming up in April. I've been coming to Thailand since 1994, and I have been in Pattaya since late October. The combination of the Thai ladies asking for 2, 500 Baht for short-time, and the effort I have to put forth to avoid the traffic stop fleecing, makes Cambodia look better with each passing day I don't pay 2, 500 Baht for short time. I seem to get more realistic prices from the freelancers who work the beer bars. Not too many stunners, but much easier on the wallet. It was paradise for so many years, that I really can't whine too much. Like the Buddha says, nothing is permanent.
am hearing the police are pulling over tourists on mc / motorbikes and confirep001ing them if the tourists does not have a thai license. they are running some scam with the bike renters who say it's ok to rent with a home country or international dl. what's the word from the man in the street?that they simply found this so far unexploited reason to fine who does not carry an idl. they are being helped by clown foreign tourist police that pre-set the ticket and send the person to the office where the lazy pig real police finishes filling the form and collects 400 bts. no confirep001ion.
Going down on lady rather many ladies is occupying my mind for most of the time now. Is it safe & advisable to lick a cameltoe or rim a lady in regular soapies. Face-sitting & making women reach climax with my mouth really completes my session instead. People who are heavily into oral thing can they please share their after-oral experiences in Thailand. Are the girls really STD free & what are the odds of getting STI's, mind it I'm talking about the girls at soapies & beer bars only & avoiding freelancers at every cost. Thanks
Going down on lady rather many ladies is occupying my mind for most of the time now. Is it safe & advisable to lick a cameltoe or rim a lady in regular soapies. Face-sitting & making women reach climax with my mouth really completes my session instead. People who are heavily into oral thing can they please share their after-oral experiences in Thailand. Are the girls really STD free & what are the odds of getting STI's, mind it I'm talking about the girls at soapies & beer bars only & avoiding freelancers at every cost. ThanksPosting likes this leave me doubtful about the intelligence of the author. For one, it's impossible to say what are "the odds of getting STD". Even if it was possible to say, that would not mean one would not get and STD anyway. Furthermore is know that any discussion about STD transmissibility ends in disagreement if not violent flaming and insulting, so why stir shit when the turds have just recently settled.
So Andy, if you like to lick pussy, go ahead and lick it, but do not look for babysitting your choices here. BTW, there is also a dedicated forum about STDs here.
Posting likes this leave me doubtful about the intelligence of the author. For one, it's impossible to say what are "the odds of getting STD". Even if it was possible to say, that would not mean one would not get and STD anyway. Furthermore is know that any discussion about STD transmissibility ends in disagreement if not violent flaming and insulting, so why stir shit when the turds have just recently settled.
So Andy, if you like to lick pussy, go ahead and lick it, but do not look for babysitting your choices here. BTW, there is also a dedicated forum about STDs here.Those were somewhat strong words but anyways thanks for the reply. I was just looking in what ratio positive & negative feedbacks just pass by so as to get the little idea. Moreover I'm not expecting some kind of in-depth research on this topic. Why this thread is always on fire.
Crocodilexp
03-27-14, 19:05
Is it safe & advisable to lick a cameltoe or rim a lady in regular soapies. Face-sitting & making women reach climax with my mouth really completes my session instead. People who are heavily into oral thing can they please share their after-oral experiences in Thailand. Are the girls really STD free & what are the odds of getting STI's, mind it I'm talking about the girls at soapies & beer bars only & avoiding freelancers at every cost. ThanksThe venue doesn't matter. People who practice unsafe sex with an excuse that some venues are substantially safer than others are simply delusional. That said, we all take risks.
I share your passion for giving oral, but have learned to refrain over the years. In my personal experience, going down on a working girl is almost certain to result in a mild (1-day) to severe (3-week) sore throat. Just my personal experience, perhaps there are other folks with iron throats out there -- sadly, not me. It doesn't help that when I do monger, I tend to take 2-4 girls in a day. So if you're taking just one, perhaps the risk is somewhat lower.
Protip: expelling lots of saliva, trying not to ingest any fluids, and using Listerine right after might help somewhat. And of course, use your nose. If it smells even slightly bad, giving oral is out. In the end, if you're a tourist and doing this once in a long time, the experience may well be worth a sore throat. I don't think AIDS risk is particularly high.
The venue doesn't matter. People who practice unsafe sex with an excuse that some venues are substantially safer than others are simply delusional. That said, we all take risks.
I share your passion for giving oral, but have learned to refrain over the years. In my personal experience, going down on a working girl is almost certain to result in a mild (1-day) to severe (3-week) sore throat. Just my personal experience, perhaps there are other folks with iron throats out there. Sadly, not me. It doesn't help that when I do monger, I tend to take 2-4 girls in a day. So if you're taking just one, perhaps the risk is somewhat lower.
Protip: expelling lots of saliva, trying not to ingest any fluids, and using Listerine right after might help somewhat. And of course, use your nose. If it smells even slightly bad, giving oral is out. In the end, if you're a tourist and doing this once in a long time, the experience may well be worth a sore throat. I don't think AIDS risk is particularly high.Great, simply what's there on other people's mind & their thoughts on any given quest is definitely somewhat helpful in taking a decision or making a strategy.
In this case, for eg, Protip is really appreciated. Right said, taking risk occasionally reduces your risk too but cannot eliminate it. I was just curious to know what could be the prevalence rate for STI's like gonorrhea & herpes in such places & that's what made me ask this question. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Paul Kausch
03-28-14, 00:54
Going down on lady rather many ladies is occupying my mind for most of the time now. Is it safe & advisable to lick a cameltoe or rim a lady in regular soapies. Face-sitting & making women reach climax with my mouth really completes my session instead. People who are heavily into oral thing can they please share their after-oral experiences in Thailand. Are the girls really STD free & what are the odds of getting STI's, mind it I'm talking about the girls at soapies & beer bars only & avoiding freelancers at every cost. ThanksHere is an article that is worthwhile reading.
http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/features/4-things-you-didnt-know-about-oral-sex
Much information on this topic on the internet. Clubs that cater to swingers often provide roles of plastic wrap that can be used as protective barriers while performing cunnilingus on a woman. Never tried it. Seems much worse than using a condom during intercourse, which I do use but really dislike.
I recently returned from about a 70 day trip. After reading some discussion here, I thought I would post this.
I had a lady who I thought might be a potential temporary longterm Mrs H2, so her and I went together to get some tests. All were negative. However I used the antibody test for HIV and not the RNA test. It didn't take long and I decided that she wasn't Mrs H2 material. If anyone is concerned about their lady's health, then why not consider getting her tested. Yes I know if it is a ST affair it is a hassle. Of course the tests aren't perfect due to time frames from exposure to testing, but I you are concerned...
In December I posted about a test lab which is more toward the north end of Pattaya. However there is a lab on the south end. The name of the lab is Lifecare Laboratory Pattaya. I have known about this lab for some time but never been there until this trip.
They appear to have the same tests as the other lab, but some of their tests are cheaper. I have been tested by the HIV DNA method in the past, but that test is not on the CDC web site. However the RNA test is. The CDC says that the test is good after about 10 days from potential exposure. The lab would probably tell you 2 weeks. The test cost 2500 baht from the south lab and 3000 baht from the lab on the north end. This lab is the same as the other lab when it comes to the info they want from you. They ask for your name and age. No verification documents needed.
This lab was more inconvenient for me to get to but I wanted to check it out and did go there prior to leaving Thailand and got the RNA test. I did save 500 baht for my inconvenience. These tests are not done on site, so the results can take 3 to 5 days. When I got my results back (negative) I noticed the test was done at Bangkok Hospital Pattaya. If you get that test make sure you get the RNA HIV positive / negative test and not the RNA viral load test.
If you use google you can translate the site. Search for Lifecare Laboratory Pattaya. They have directions and map on their site. If you are interested in finding the lab and have problems with that, let me know and I will get a link or directions.
FruitNinja
03-28-14, 01:41
arrived late afternoon weary from a day of travel and almost three weeks of non-stop drinking and mongering. i'm at the stay hotel on soi 10. nice place, less than 2 years old so not run down yet. as is usually the case there are always issues in hotels in this part of the world. the wifi sucks if there are more than two people on the floor. i'm soo used to 50 megabit download speed in the states. here all i get is an unreliable 2. that seems to be the case across se asia. there is also a problem with the air conditioning. it's either on (polar ice cap) or off (sub saharan africa) hopefully they will work it out today.
all the talk of std's: against my better judgement i do bareback at times. let's be real. rubbers suck. i have never caught anything. maybe i've been lucky. i do try and wash and [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) right after. a friend told me that and i don't know if there's any scientific evidence but i do it. dining at the y. i love it but i do not do it with working girls. i don't know when the last cock was in her and that thought just doesn't sit well with me. no homophobia but it just doesn't appeal to me. can you get something? i don't know. and to try to put a percentage on something like that is just silly. there are too many variables and i'm sure there has been no research just in that area. how would you get a control group? it's an impossible proposition given you would need to work with hookers and johns, probably not the most reliable of subjects. anyway.
an interesting side note on leaving saigon. (i will post on that in the appropriate forum.) i'm in the saigon airport and lo and behold who do i see? the girl i was with a few nights ago. hmmm. and not only that she has about six other girls with her bound for bkk. i smile and give her a wink and try to make conversation but they are rather shocked at seeing me and other than some lite chat are not very talkative. i wonder what the story is there? shopping in bkk? working in bkk? i mean the bar doesn't have that many girls to begin with and 3/4 of the staff leaving for bkk is odd to say the least. would love to hear some thoughts on this.
back to pattaya.
i check in, get some food, figure out where to get a bottle of jameson, try to find an network cord for a mac or at least an adaptor from mini to regular. tried about 10 places in century: njet! lot's of russians but around town and on beach road they seemed well behaved. there is a big festival on beach road so i figure the hunting was going to be hard. well i finally get to a break in the stands and there are quite a few girls hanging about. a lot of expats sitting around drinking beer and chatting up the girls. party with hookers. got to love it! i will say i can understand guys pulling 1000 lt or even 500. there are some down right hags that i wouldn't take home for a drink. i know beauty is in the eyes of the beholder but jeez. i'm not all about sticking my cock into anything warm. i need attraction otherwise it doesn't work for me.
i look around and spot a cutie and motion her over away from her friends. chat with her for a bit and she was quoting 1000 st and 2000 lt. now i like watching my money but at some point it devalues the experience in more way than just the wallet. i'm tired and take her short time for the asking price. i mean it's a drop in the bucket compared to the states (i don't want to hear that i'm going to ruin it for everyone. i don't live for everyone.) i pay 10x that in the states for comparable quality. and for me the experience is always better if you don't beat the girl to slavedom. everyone's different. everyone complains about the mechanical nature of some of these girls. well yeah! if you pay her peanuts what do you expect? i agree to her price and she's got her hands all over me in the walk back to my hotel. very affectionate and happy. let's not forget we are dealing with women mentality here. on the way back we pick up some snacks and drinks. she's warming up even more. very conservative in what she get's, not feeding the family, and very helpful in making sure i have what i want. helping me navigate the language. even counted my money for me to make sure i wasn't getting cheated.
some snacks and chit chat and we're in the shower. she literally gave me a shower, a little foreplay and we're in bed. very nice body. little bit of an ass which i like. had a baby but other than a little bit of a stomach (which i like) she's in great shape. we have a great time and are laying there and she asks if i want her to stay the night. i ask how much and she says 1500. i agree and we sleep for a while. she gets up at 6 this morning and showers, comes back to bed and gives me another great lay. we chit caht a little more and i tell her that she can go whenever she likes. she hangs out for a little longer and leaves with a big hug and kiss.
great experience. total gfe. got her number and will probably see her again.
now back to fining an adaptor for my mac and some jameson.
the festival seems to have corralled the girls into a few open spaces on the beach. not sure if this is a good or bad thing yet. i don't think the guys hanging around drinking with the girls helps. come on guys, don't cock block.
FruitNinja
03-28-14, 01:49
Here is an article that is worthwhile reading.
http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/features/4-things-you-didnt-know-about-oral-sex
Much information on this topic on the internet. Clubs that cater to swingers often provide roles of plastic wrap that can be used as protective barriers while performing cunnilingus on a woman. Never tried it. Seems much worse than using a condom during intercourse, which I do use but really dislike.As much as I like it I don't go down on working girls. I have long ago and reconsidered after doing some research. A lot of guys downplay the risks associated with out hobby and they might be the lucky ones but the reality of the situation is that it's risky. You cannot argue the facts. I have a bud in thePhilippines and he's had a few STDs, curable ones but still. HIV and Herpes scare me. Throat cancer scares me.
Those were somewhat strong words but anyways thanks for the reply. I was just looking in what ratio positive & negative feedbacks just pass by so as to get the little idea. Moreover I'm not expecting some kind of in-depth research on this topic. Why this thread is always on fire.Sorry I did not wanted to insult. You see the discussion going on now. It will reach no consensus and will have no influence on your action when faced to attractive vagina. That is my simple point.
They appear to have the same tests as the other lab, but some of their tests are cheaper. I have been tested by the HIV DNA method in the past, but that test is not on the CDC web site. However the RNA test is. The CDC says that the test is good after about 10 days from potential exposure. The lab would probably tell you 2 weeks. The test cost 2500 baht from the south lab and 3000 baht from the lab on the north end. This lab is the same as the other lab when it comes to the info they want from you. They ask for your name and age. No verification documents needed.HIV test is Bt 400 at Pattaya Hospital on soi Bukkao. I don't know which method they use. Passport required.
Now back to fining an adaptor for my mac and some Jameson.Tucom IT center, South pattaya rd. between 2nd and 3rd.
Quality liquor, bring it from oversea unless money is of no value to you.
HIV test is Bt 400 at Pattaya Hospital on soi Bukkao. I don't know which method they use. Passport required.Antibody method.
FruitNinja
03-29-14, 07:48
Tucom IT center, South Pattaya Road. Between 2nd and 3rd.
Quality liquor, bring it from oversea unless money is of no value to you.Found both. As you suggested. And yes the Jameson was a little pricy. I will bring a bottle next time. I like to have a drink when I get back to the hotel with a girl. On the pack list next time will be a long network cable to help with the spotty hotel wifi. I'm spoiled at home.
FruitNinja
03-29-14, 08:02
Met up with a forum member. Reiner Otto. Nice guy. Walked from Soi 10 to Walking street. The festival is still going on and the only FLs I saw was across from Mikes Mall. Maybe 10. Nothing worth even considering. I wonder where they all went?
We started at Iron, good selection but there was some big celebration and it was packed to the gills. Next was Sensations and there were some stunners there but didn't really feel it for any of them. Then to Bacarra. It was a little thin but there were some good lookers. We ended up at a disco a few 100 feet from the start of walking street. There were plenty of FLs but the ones I was interested in were not interested in me. Oh well. I went back to Iron leaving Reiner to his hunting. Struck up a conversation with a girl that caught my eye on the first go round.
I broke two of my rules. 1. Never take a girl that has tats. Usually indicates that she's been at it a while. I like them innocent and new. 2. Only take girls with good teeth. Bad teeth are a turn off. They were quoting 1500BF and 4000 for the girl. I had a shocked look on my face. That WTF look and they immediately dropped the price to 1000 and 3000. Ended up taking her for the night. Although she was all gung ho and open to anything at the bar she was very hesitant on the return to the hotel. Very little kissing, BJ uncovered but uninspired. Sex was good in that she had a dynamite body and was tight. It was an OK experience. Not bad but not stellar. There is no accident that most clubs have red lights, and it has nothing to do with denoting a working girl house. It's very complimentary on looks and skin. They all look good in red light. Got to pay closer attention.
Plenty of girls on waking street. Quoting crazy prices. Usually means they are not interested. Ohh well.
The festival ends tomorrow so I still have a few days left to play on Beach Road. Where did they go?
a delayed (about two weeks) wrap-up. i slipped out of town the morning after my bliss experience, making sure that i got past bliss before they opened for fear that the bitchy blower would heave a semen-soaked tissue at me. i typed this up as i rode to the airport and killed time in the lounge there. then i forgot about is as i was immersing myself in the culture in angeles city, or at least immersing part of myself in the residents there. so here goes:
since typing keeps me from observing the horror surrounding me as the driver defies various laws of the road and, in many cases, physics, i figured i'd get a start on this. maybe a finish, too – not a hell of a lot to report, just a bunch of odds and ends. and there were some very nice ends.
only had four days, so i figured some pattern of bj-bj-devil's den? where? could be a bar girl, another bj, my hand, or whatever. as mentioned in my bj reports, i'm lucky to get off once in a session, so multiple sessions would be sort of a bad investment. not that i wasn't tempted.
the two bj's were covered in perhaps too much detail in the earlier reports. the dd experience was par for my course: some serious preliminary licking and sucking, then on to the main course, a main course that was tragically abbreviated when one of the main participants, the one attached to me, seizing the spirit of the various worldwide protest movements, rebelled against the oppressive pressure of the regime, here defined as 'the condom', and trouble ensued. on the brighter side, i did not get invaded by the russians, who certainly had the manpower in the region for such an operation (presumably they would arrive in camouflaged tank tops) , but the protestor went down like its chinese brethren in tiananmen square. i really, really don't like condoms, even the caucasian sized ones.
so it was back to the old standby, and my now content protestor got tag-teamed by the two lovelies, once tending to it as the other tried various means – fanning, cold beverage, towel – to keep me from overheating and drowning all of us. she wasn't terribly successful, largely because it is hard to tend to someone when you are on your hands and knees facing away from him. this was not the best of situations, but pretty much unavoidable as i generally had a finger or two in her ass. but i do give them an 'a' for effort, and for giving me their a's.
i believe we just drove under a truck. i'm happy to note that the driver, who was dozing when i got into the car, is now wide awake and muttering at other drivers in a very un-buddhist manner the pills must be kicking in.
but back to anal explorations. though these certainly played well into the south american prison concept, there was still serious effort to be made. as often has happened in the past, i joined in the fray with my free and un-stinky hand. something about a grip stronger than a german shepherd's tends to help. in this case it almost gave a girl tending to my scrotum a black eye and got my nuts bitten off. got to watch that grip thing if a lot of oil is applied. that is no way to die – where's a laplander when you need one? (obscure movie reference)
finally, just under the time limit, there was a massive eruption and we were off to the shower for some serious cleanup work. then down to pay the bill and stagger home. this brings up a conundrum that occurred to me in, i believe it was, bliss. that such thoughts should occupy my mind in such erotic moments may explain the duration of those moments. bj bars, the dd, eden, mango. just about anywhere i've had sex away from my hotel rooms in thailand involved a grueling hike up to about the fiftieth floor to reach the happy room. this means that i'm pretty well on my way to the sweat swimming pool before the fun even starts, but more critically, i have to descend from the heights, usually on a staircase that even on the way up seemed a little off by western standards, with legs just a little stiffer and more controllable than chocolate pudding. could they put these places in the basement? well, maybe not: then i would probably join a convivial cluster of mongers at the base of the stairs as we all tried to regain our strength for the ascent, most likely, in the case of [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s, with bliss' [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116) lapping at our feet.
the driver is starting to make hissing noises. this can't be good.
the walking street scene was even more of a carnival than before. it is sort of like roaming the halls of the united nations, except the diplomats are a lot ruder, smellier, and attired in clothes bought at a trailer park yard sale. not sure what country is selling the glowing rats, but i bet that is somalia sitting there with her kid and a tin cup.
i only hit a few go-gos, but in most of them i became a repeat customer. lots of eye candy, though i rarely barfine. each visit, though, i wrestle with that possibility: on the one hand i generally have difficulties getting them to leave my room afterward, they are rarely mango-quality pros, they are overpriced, and i'm not really into the gfe at all, but on the other hand some are damned hot, which pretty much kicks all the other arguments' asses.
i had a candidate at baccara (sp?) , a cute little thing with possibly enhanced boobs. kind of a strange vibe. on the one hand she seemed sort of distant, like she would rather be anywhere else, including [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s basement (we've probably had enough of that bit, haven't we?) , but she would just slowly nurse her drink. v-e-are-why slowly: i never bought her more than one, and she would have to gulp down what was left when i left. maybe she just had the personality of a dishrag or something. or maybe i was just a safe port in the storm as she awaited someone with less round eyes and a presumably smaller dick (ha! not likely!). safe because i didn't do any serious groping (hence the 'possibly' enhanced boobs, though in an accidental collision they were determined to be delightfully pliant) , and the sex video i showed her did not show me copulating with a flying squirrel. on the other hand, the sex video was actually of flying squirrels, which could probably creep some people out when they stopped laughing.
turns out driver needed to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). better now.
meanwhile, at heaven's above, on the first night here i fell madly in lust with a dancer. alas, some other slimeball called her over before i had a chance, so i went back the next night. no sign of her. i can be determined when i want to be, so the third night i was back. still no luck. i paid my tab, then, as i got up to leave, there she was sitting in a booth on the way out! so i approached her, noticing a few tats that i had not seen the first night. oh, well, she was still hot, though i somehow remembered her as hotter. wait! this was not her, but another dancer who looked very similar! shit! but i was already there in her face, so i just gave her a tip, said she was hot, and split.
so, of course, i was back on my last night. still no luck. that slimeball had probably married her or something. but miss not her was looking pretty tempting (like the retro-cars. the mustang, camaro, etc, one's mind sees the original, or something close to it) (just to clarify, i have not had sex with a camaro) , so i asked her over. nice girl. maybe less english than i speak thai, so the conversation was limited. i wasn't planning on getting anything to go, anyway. early car to bkk this morning. so this wasn't a big deal. no sooner had the ld arrived than she was off to the stage. after her set she returned as the other half of the dancers climbed up for their shift. and guess who was in that second group. crap!
it gets more interesting, if your mind is as far down the gutter as mine. as we sort of talk some more, she points to the stage and, i'm pretty sure, specifically at the supreme object of my lust, and asks if i think she is pretty. i of course assure her that she herself is smokin' hot, but do grant her that so is the supreme object of my lust. she agrees and watches for a while. so many questions. does she realize how much they look alike, so just pointed her out assuming i was enjoying the eye candy for that reason? was she having roughly the same fantasies as i was, possibly without the latin america enhancement? would she care to join us? could that be her f*cking sister, which would make the last couple questions really, really hot?
i know when i get back one or both (and i'm betting on the supreme object of my lust. crap!) will be gone, so this will haunt me to my last days.
on the other hand, just down the street at spanky's i talked to a dancer from cambodia. reasonably hot. she, too, pointed out another cute girl on stage,"my seestah". of course it could be the bg version of sister: cousin, girl from same town, inability to pronounce 'syphilis', etc, but too bad i was so fixated on the supreme object of my lust. i know i could have arranged something there, though in both these cases it would have been disappointing. these aren't kinky pornstars: sister sex would probably involve screwing one at a time while the other watched tv and texted. probably her sister, who would probably respond. at least it would be in thai, so i couldn't read,"can you see if it is in yet?"
of course it could be worse: the female flying squirrel rarely stopped eating during her numerous, incredibly brief, tender moments with the obviously add-afflicted suitor, so i guess i'd still be ahead there, especially given the smell of some thai food.
okay, we made it to the airport. no line at all at philippines business class check in. only one couple ahead of me at premium security lane. couple was from uzbekistan. had child. may have been familiar with the wheel but not advanced concepts like indoor plumbing. no idea whatsoever about going through security. presumably on the way out of their country security was limited to a cursory check of the goat's carry-on. spent five minutes as these people were slowly, through trial and error, educated in the process. other belt 'air crew priority' was empty. tried to go through there, but skinny, worthless little potential ladyboy said no. line backs up behind me. eventually little prick tells them to go through his lane. me? i'm stuck behind mr. and mrs. clueless and clueless baby. what? we can't take him through the metal detector in his stroller? takes me thirty seconds to get through when they finally figure it out. easily beat them in the after-checkpoint recovery / redressing, even though i have lace up shoes and they are in the height of uzbekistan fashion, crocs. get to immigrations line ahead of them. clueless baby wanders into booth area and (a) manages to block the guy ahead of me as he tries to leave, and (be) literally bumps into me trying to get back to his suddenly aware and calling parents, completely oblivious to the idea of going around a large object instead of through it. then bumps into me again. and again. it's like my useless artificial intelligence 'team mates' in my old fps game who got into corners and just stood there, walking in place, except i'm pretty sure there would be issues if i shot this little f*cker as i did them. no way i'm paying for the three goats or a cow for compensation to the parents. this kid must do this a lot: he was actually wearing a helmet (what? the helmet has to come off for the security scan?) , a good thing as it was getting a serious pounding on my carry-on. go ahead, ask me how i really feel about this business!
(calms down.)
other bar notes: as usual, lots of eye candy at baccara, but with the usual caveat about koreans and japanese.
great old tunes at opening in heaven's above.
windmill had the usual pigs, but if you like licking pig privates in public, it is your place, plus a lesbian show perhaps even more uninspired than the putative sister acts from heaven's above or spanky's.
gentleman's club (or whatever the name of the place is you, or at least i accidentally go into when trying to go to spanky's) : average dancers.
showgirls (lk metro) : pretty nice daytime lineup. was tempted, but she fled into the back, not to reappear. 'oh, shit! it's the squirrel porn guy! '
had a weird language problem. before going out the first day i left a tip for the maid. okay, so far, so good. but i had done this before, though in the philippines, and it was still there when i returned. obviously she feared that i had just forgotten the money as i went out. or it was such a lousy tip that she left it as a message. probably the former.
so i had an idea: i would leave a note: "maid". great plan, except that, even if i wrote the english transliteration of it in thai,"maebaan" (with a lot of accents and stuff) , i'm sure it would be all greek to the maid. so i dug out my thai dictionary. the one with the three columns: english, thai transliteration, and squiggles. and went to work. after about five minutes i had a masterpiece of squiggly lines and tiny circles. i tucked it under the tip and left it on the desk.
when i returned the room had been cleaned and the tip and note were missing from the desk. good.
then i ran across the note on the kitchenette table / breakfast bar. it was not exactly the same note, though: more squiggles had been added below mine. oh, crap! what the hell does that mean? obviously, it could be "thank you!", but that is predicated on several things, like that i actually spelled "maid" right. what if i had transposed a squiggle and actually written,"please go buy me a young boy?". this is thailand. i could have gotten a knock on my door any minute as she herded up a selection to choose from. what if the second line of her response, one character that looked like our number seven, actually was the number seven, as in,"i'll be right back, my son is seven."?
but beyond that rather far-fetched scenario (she looked too young to have a seven year old) , i can think of some other major misunderstandings.
"i have taken the money you forgot and left it at the front desk."
"never leave your money on the desk: it is an insult. always leave it on the breakfast bar."
"double that and i'll bring my sister, too."
"do not leave a note implying that our beloved king is a maid!"
or it could have just been a rep001hing critique of my penmanship.
there was no way i was going to decode that, so i had to improvise. bar girls: they aren't just for carnal pleasure! yes, it was kapkoon ka.
okay, it's boarding time. i'm off to ac for three days to see if i can [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off a provider on blow row.
Ahah that made me laugh Oosik!
FN: Try Hong Thong with lemon Schweppes. Way sweet, but it's the only local spirit I can stand.
WhiteTiger666
03-29-14, 12:58
Thank you Oosik for the report! I love your style of writing. Brilliant!
Love Palace
03-29-14, 17:39
Any girlfriendly hotel mid price? Mercure? Ibis?
FruitNinja
03-29-14, 19:25
Having had a good night out with Reiner Otto and booted my average girl in the morning I rested for the day. My plan was to hit Bacarra, Sensations, and Iron to do some more exploring and see if I could fix my picker. LAst nights pick was ok but not stellar.
So I did a day of R&R and got up at around 8. Assuming a shower, dinner, and the bars at 9:30. Should be plenty to choose from. After a decent dinner on Beach Road and being the lazy fuck that I am I hit the beach walk across the street from Mike's. Apparently it's called The Bridge. Ugh! There were plenty to pick from but quite frankly I wouldn't touch any of them. The girl from the first night was there but I like variety so I make an excuse and tell her I will be back. After about 30 minutes of hanging around and drinking my water I spot a girl that just arrived. Stunner! I walk up and give her the "hey what's up." She looks at me and says "you know I'm a lady boy." FUCK!"No honey I didn't but thank you and have a nice night." FUCK! Totally fooled. So I get out of dodge before anyone can see that I was talking to him / her. Embarrassed to say the least. Baht bus and I'm at walking street. Oh Oh! Lights are out on the first bar, the second bar, ALL THE BARS! Shit elections or something the tourist cop tells me. So I motor on back hoping that day one was still there. Nope she's gone. I text no answer. SHIT, I fucked this up.
Soapy? Don't know if they are open. So I grab a water and wait. After 30 minutes nothing and I'm getting a little depressed kicking myself in the ass for not going for the sure thing right off the bat. So with nothing to do I sit and wait. After about 30 minutes this stunner walks by but I can't make out if she's working or not. But she doesn't slow down or look at any guys hanging out so I figure she's a regular girl. Damn I should have gone with the sure thing. Well 10 minutes later she's back at the bridge. Not exactly at the bridge but a little ways down but she's leaning over ghe railing texting someone. So I run, knocking over old ladies and Russian tourists to get to her before anyone else does. I'm still not sure she's working as theres a huge celebration going on but what the heck The only thing that could happen is she breaks my heart with a "WTF do you think I am." Well as luck would have it she is working. Oh yeah. We make a deal for a couple of hours. I paid too much but there was no way I was going to let money get in may way with this little hottie.
Back to the hotel for a few hours of romping. What a fucking beautiful body. About 5'1" and perfectly proportioned. A little doll. What a piece! Turns out she's from BKK and heer to make some money. Has to go back in the morning, something about grandma. I coerce her into coming back tomorrow. She says she will take the bus that gets here at 7pm and will text me as soon as she's back. Will she? Who know, probably not but one can hope. She also agreed to stay all night. Let's hope she shows. She used to work a bar here but said she got sick of it because the mamasans would never give them a day off and she has no interest in dancing for 7 hours straight 7 days a week. I bet it's not easy. Maybe that's why so many of the bar girls seem disinterested.
I love the choices one has here.
Paul Kausch
03-29-14, 19:37
She used to work a bar here but said she got sick of it because the mamasans would never give them a day off and she has no interest in dancing for 7 hours straight 7 days a week. I bet it's not easy. Maybe that's why so many of the bar girls seem disinterested.This is a good point. The girls working in the gogos and the MPs put in some long hours. Some MP girls work 11am until the last client or 4pm until the last client on alternating days seven days a week, and have to make a special request for a day off. Now they're not fucking nonstop everyday, though some will on some days, but they're at the venue everyday. I think you have identified the reason for the disinterested look on the gogo girls faces. A few MP girls have made it clear to me that after many hours of nonstop fucking they simply run out of energy. I know I've been with the same girl who will be a tigress on an afternoon in the middle of the week and almost a star fish on a Sunday night after getting fucked by a dozen or more guys since Friday night.
World Jockey
03-29-14, 20:27
This is a good point. The girls working in the gogos and the MPs put in some long hours. Some MP girls work 11am until the last client or 4pm until the last client on alternating days seven days a week, and have to make a special request for a day off. Now they're not fucking nonstop everyday, though some will on some days, but they're at the venue everyday. I think you have identified the reason for the disinterested look on the gogo girls faces. A few MP girls have made it clear to me that after many hours of nonstop fucking they simply run out of energy. I know I've been with the same girl who will be a tigress on an afternoon in the middle of the week and almost a star fish on a Sunday night after getting fucked by a dozen or more guys since Friday night.Yep. The few I have hooked up with have told me similar stories. They work a lot. This is one reason I tend to choose the cute diamond in the rough when bar fining. On my last visit to one I chose the most homely girl to take back to my hotel. As so as we took a step to leave the entire bar erupted in cheers. She told me this was the 1st time she was ever bar fined.
A girl I bar fined in AC & she told me the last time she had sex was two weeks ago and before that it was a month. YMMV depending on who we choose and when we choose them.
FruitNinja
03-30-14, 01:25
This is a good point. The girls working in the gogos and the MPs put in some long hours. Some MP girls work 11am until the last client or 4pm until the last client on alternating days seven days a week, and have to make a special request for a day off. Now they're not fucking nonstop everyday, though some will on some days, but they're at the venue everyday. I think you have identified the reason for the disinterested look on the gogo girls faces. A few MP girls have made it clear to me that after many hours of nonstop fucking they simply run out of energy. I know I've been with the same girl who will be a tigress on an afternoon in the middle of the week and almost a star fish on a Sunday night after getting fucked by a dozen or more guys since Friday night.I sit at my desk for hours reading contracts and proposals and I'm out of my mind in a few hours. I can't imagine standing on a stage gyrating my hips for seven hours it's got to be brutal. It's not like they have a union or a NLRB to give them rights. Something that never dawned on me until talking to Noo Na last night. And as much fun as we had, I like to joke with the girls, lighten the mood. Always works to my advantage in getting good service. After we were done we tried exchanging phone numbers but I was out of load. She insisted on helping me buy more load. After we walked towards my hotel and you could see a change in demeanor when she kissed me and headed back to the beach. She was not happy at the thought of doing it again.
Putting myself into her psyche how could you be excited about it. Aside from the demeaning nature of the experience there's always the uncertainty of what the next guy will be like. Will he be a nice guy or some asshole. I'm getting old and soft.
Another reason that I don't try to beat the girls into being with me for peanuts. I think a lot of guys have this romantic theory that the girls get some sexual enjoyment out of sleeping with them. The reality is quite different. I've been at it for weeks now and even I'm just running through the mechanics. I should probably take a few days off but my sexual addiction tells me to motor on.
Paul Kausch
03-30-14, 02:20
I can't imagine standing on a stage gyrating my hips for seven hours it's got to be brutal.
Another reason that I don't try to beat the girls into being with me for peanuts. I think a lot of guys have this romantic theory that the girls get some sexual enjoyment out of sleeping with them. The reality is quite different. I've been at it for weeks now and even I'm just running through the mechanics. I should probably take a few days off but my sexual addiction tells me to motor on.
Right and at least those contracts and proposals engage your mind. Those girls are just shuffling on stage naked or darn near that while a bunch of farangs gawk at them; and what do they have to look forward to? A bar fine?
I no longer go to the gogos that much, the loud music and my tinnitus are a bad mix, so I can't speak about them with authority; however, I find the MP girls like longer outcalls, especially overnight. They get out of the MP. I take them to dinner. They spend the night in a nice hotel room. Cheer from Bamboo told me she loved spending the night in my hotel because the bed was big and comfortable, it had A / C, and it was very quiet. She said there was loud noise coming from apartments in her building all hours of the day and night and it carried through the building. Some of the apartments were occupied by extended families who worked, slept and cooked around the clock in shifts. She never got a good night sleep. Read my first post about Aor (#24 at Annie's). On the first outcall we had a couple of hours of sex. Then she slept for three hours and we went to dinner. When we got back to my room she was a wild woman for five hours.
I'm like you 1200 versus 1500 is US$10. Big deal. That doesn't buy two meals at a fast food joint in the USA. You're absolutely right, these girls aren't fucking us because they think we're hot and looking at us gets them wet between their legs. Many of them do appreciate it when we are nice to them and give better service in return.
I take a break every few days. In part because I'm older and need a day with nothing but R&R, but also because a day of abstinence gets me good and horny when I jump back into the game the next day.
I recently holidayed in Phuket and had an amazing Thai oil massage. I wanted to know if it is customary for the girl to undress into bikini top and knickers. As this girl in phuket was wearing a nice silk skirt and top. But we she came into the room she had taken it off and was looking super hot in her bikini top.
Thanks a lot in advance.
Mr Enternational
03-30-14, 15:04
I recently holidayed in Phuket and had an amazing Thai oil massage. I wanted to know if it is customary for the girl to undress into bikini top and knickers. As this girl in phuket was wearing a nice silk skirt and top. But we she came into the room she had taken it off and was looking super hot in her bikini top.
Thanks a lot in advance.I've never heard of that one before. No doubt a signal that she was availabe for extras.
I've never heard of that one before. No doubt a signal that she was availabe for extras.I have been to a few legit places in BKK and the girl led me to the room dressed in her uniform. I was on my stomach as She massage my back and could feel her skin of her leg rubbing against me. Facing down I could not see much. As I turned over I could see that she had taken her uniform off and was in a bikini top and shorts like cotton boxers. No extras could be had, strictly legit. This happened on several occasions and at several different places. A couple of reasons why is that it is warm or hot in the place as they don't like to turn on the A / C and the girls don't want to get oil on their uniforms.
Hello,
The reason I ask is that I see photos of the massage places in Pattaya and the ladies are in nice silk dresses. I just posted a FR in the Phuket forum.
I am a big fan of oil massage as I love the tease. Every massage is different. Compared to the customary soapy massage where they follow a standard procedure. And you clearly know what comes next.
I am coming to Pattaya in July for a bachelor party. And I am counting down the days.
I have been to a few legit places in BKK and the girl led me to the room dressed in her uniform. I was on my stomach as She massage my back and could feel her skin of her leg rubbing against me. Facing down I could not see much. As I turned over I could see that she had taken her uniform off and was in a bikini top and shorts like cotton boxers. No extras could be had, strictly legit. This happened on several occasions and at several different places. A couple of reasons why is that it is warm or hot in the place as they don't like to turn on the A / C and the girls don't want to get oil on their uniforms.
Hello everyone. It's been a while since I visited Thailand so I am thinking to do a couple of months over there. I am looking for the answers to a few questions.
What are the going rates these days for girls. Overnight, short time, the whole week etc.
Are there still white girl clubs over there.
Any ideas on a good company to rent a condo close to the walking street from. Noting that I may be renting for a couple of months.
Thanks in advance.1) rates varies depending on GoGo prices, BB, or FL
current rates as follows : Low as 500b St to high of 2000b for ST, and Low as 1000 LT to sky the limit in some GoGo (Bacara currently have some coyotes asking and getting 5000b)
2) Yes, still have several Russian bars that have stunning but expensive white Russians. Not worth it if as you are here for the darker Thai girls.
3) can't answer the condo question. Best to ask some expats on another thread here or another forum.
Hope this helps.
FZ
As I was leaving I thought, you idiot. She is in the top 5 most beautiful girls of the 150 you've had and U-turned her down for USD 45? God I'm stupid.Not really as you stuck to your principles and what you are use to paying. I have turned down some stunners in the past for price alone knowing I could always find another that will suit my taste and price.
Not really as you stuck to your principles and what you are use to paying. I have turned down some stunners in the past for price alone knowing I could always find another that will suit my taste and price.Well it made me curious enough, I m going to have a look right now! (will keep you informed)
1) rates varies depending on GoGo prices, BB, or FL.
Current rates as follows : Low as 500b St to high of 2000b for ST, and Low as 1000 LT to sky the limit in some GoGo (Bacara currently have some coyotes asking and getting 5000b)
2) Yes, still have several Russian bars that have stunning but expensive white Russians. Not worth it if as you are here for the darker Thai girls.
3) can't answer the condo question. Best to ask some expats on another thread here or another forum.
Hope this helps.
FZWas curious how much the Russian women cost compared to the rest? Are they only in Pattaya?
FruitNinja
04-02-14, 02:24
Was curious how much the Russian women cost compared to the rest? Are they only in Pattaya?Breadman,
Having done Mother Russia and a bit of the FSU in its heyday I would say that the girls working here are the cast offs. In a place with many 9s in the gogos, a few 7s walking beach road I'm at a loss why you would be considering sub 5 Russians. And although most of the gogo girls are somewhat hardened the cultural difference would make the Russians diamonds. And I don't mean in a good way. Everything I've read here and everyone that I've talked to tells me that's not the play in Pattaya.
Having said all of the: if you find yourself a Russian woman and she falls in love with you, you will never experience anything quite like that. I dated a Belarus for a number of years. Age appropriate and already living in states she was the sexiest worm I have been with. She used to crawl out of the bathroom to bed after showering. Liked it however I liked it. One of the few women that in the middle of a doggie session she turned and said "fuck my ass." Who was I to deny her her desires?
I'm just curious about the price, seen many Russian, Ukrainian, Moldova, Romanian, Polish. You get the picture. In Germany. All anywhere from $30 to $60 USD.
FruitNinja
04-02-14, 03:06
I'm just curious about the price, seen many Russian, Ukrainian, Moldova, Romanian, Polish. You get the picture. In Germany. All anywhere from $30 to $60 USD.You might want to PM Reiner Otto. He's been here for a while and I'm sure he would know. Where in GR are there $30-$60 girls?
Thanks
You might want to PM Reiner Otto. He's been here for a while and I'm sure he would know. Where in GR are there $30-$60 girls?
ThanksIn all the FKK clubs, just visit the fkk forum. Lowest price are the partytreffs, highest are the fkk clubs.
FruitNinja
04-02-14, 04:23
I stayed at the Stay Hotel on soi 10. Got the suite so it was pricy at 4280. Breakfast for two included. I got to stop doing that breakfast thing because quite frankly I don't like eating breakfast with hookers that I can't communicate with. I'd rather read the NYTimes and start my day off relaxed. The hotel is newer so the rooms are very nice. Decent sized TV, very nice bathroom with a large walk in shower. Two problems though. 1. The internet slows to a crawl when a lot of people are using it. The lobby is always good. If you have a network cable it works fine. If you have a Mac Air you'll need an adapter. You can find one at Tucon (sp) on South Pattaya Road. 2. The air-conditioning is shit. It's either the arctic or the sahara. No in-between. I used a little yankee ingenuity and closed off half the vent with a towel then at night I cranked it and left the balcony door somewhat open. I was able to make it somewhat comfortable. Definitely not to western standards. Not sure why they even have a thermostat. I do like staying on 10. It's close to the mall and I like the food court. Great crepes. The girl starts making it as soon as she sees me. It's also quiet. Decent massage place right across from the stay. Although I think I'm getting too old for Thai massages. They can be brutal. It's also an easy walk to Walking street. I usually start at 8 and work my way down.
I had three girls off the beach. All very good experiences. The first night was maybe a 6 body wise but a 7 face. But what she lacked in looks she more than made up in performance. Basically relax and she will do the rest. It was perfect as I was tired. Great BBBJ, she had that Linda Blair head spinning ability. Great fun. She then go on her feet and lowered herself on me and rode me like it was her last fuck. Good stuff. I should have repeated.
Night two I picked up a 20 year old off the beach that was a solid 8. Used to work at the gogo but got tired of being bossed around. Something about her wanted a day off and mama said no. Her performance was a solid 8, not as good as the first night girl but she was adorable, spoke decent English and had a 10 body. Face was a solid 8.
I picked up a 18 year old on the beach the next night. Tall 170cm. Very nice body. Only here a month and very compliant. She had a 8 face, and 8 body and an 8 for the effort. I kept her two nights, just sending her home to get some clothes and so I could get a haircut. She was very sweet and willing. I finally sent her on her way so that Reiner Otto and I could go do the gogos.
Beach road girls can be had for 1-2000 LT. A lot won't do LT and want 1500 for ST. Pass. I'm not a bargain basement shopper but I'm also not a patsy. There were tons of girls on the road. I think they lost a lot of business to the street fair so they were making up for lost time. Most were 5s at best. I'm sure these could be had for 500 if that's your thing. There were not a lot of LBs as there were last time. And the one that I thought was a girl informed me right away that she was a he.
My experience at the gobos was not so good. We went to Iron, Sensations, and Bacarra. All had stunners. Quite a few coyote girls in Sensations and the don't tell you until you've bought a drink. I usually take a while to pick but once I do I'm ready to go. It happened to me twice. The second time the girl gave me that shit and her friend said are you crazy, go with the guy. So then she changes her mind and says she will go ST. Well by that time I'm turned off as I know there's no way in hell that could turn into a good experience. My record with gobos is not good. Yet I'm like a moth in the light."the light, the light, I must have the light." I got to work on that. I finally did pick one. I got to tell ya, I know that the red light is flattering but what a surprise when I got this one to the room. Put the makeup back on please. Sent her packing at 6 without a second shot. Couldn't get myself to do it.
Last night I pick a real hot 22 year old. Very pretty and pleasant. Well her "friend" has some kind of fit about her going. I try to figure out with is going on but can't make it out. I should have bailed right there but mama says "no problem." Get back to the room and she's pleasant and in a good mood. We shower and proceed to the bed. Kissing, no problem, BBBJ, no problem, throw the boot and proceed to do my business. Nice and tight. Very pretty, great tits, great belly, all good. I look down to see my cock inside her and. WTF, white discharge! WTF! I lose my hardon and question her about this. She says she's taking antibiotics so I'm guessing a bacterial infection. Now why the fuck would you still be bar fining? Jeez. I go wash and make her blow me again until I'm hard and throw a boot on again and I do the standard, lets get this over with. We clean up and I fall asleep.
All of a sudden at about 4 am I hear a noise and see her over by the desk. She's looking through my shit. I always lock anything of value in the safe as soon as a girl walks into my room. Never had a problem and don't want to so I am cautious. But now I'm pissed. I tell her she needs to go home and I'm not paying full price. I give her 1500, shouldn't have even given her that, but I'm compassionate. She says she wants 2000. I give her that look and she says "ok ok I go." After all that she gives me a peck on the cheek at the door and thanks me. In all my years this is the first time I've had that happen with a girl. Once many years ago from a street girl at home but never a girl from a gogo or parlor. I'm talking 25 years ago.
Bar fines are 1000, they will try for 1500 if they think they can get away with it but quickly settle at 1000. Sensations is big on hustling drinks. I guess they all are but some are more in your face than others. They had quite a few coyote girls hustling drinks so be careful. Make sure they will BF before you start buying drinks. I usually get 1 drink if I'm interested but cut them loose after one if the don't BF. Bar fine is usually 2000 ST 3000 LT.
The last time I was here I did better with bar girls than beach girls. Oh well. Overall a good time.
I'm off to BKK. Dr BJ, Nuru, Annie's, and who knows what else. Last year I BFed a new girl from Bacarra. She was just starting her career, cute as all and very willing to learn. I had her for four days. I've messaged her and I'm supposed to pick her up at 24:00 We'll see if that happens. I can't imagine she's going to wait for me if some guy BFs her. No big deal really but it would be nice to see what a year in the business has done to her. I've got a few other suggestions from a long time BKK monger.
The clock is ticking down. I leave the 7th. Sad but It's been a great trip. Lot's of good stories, a dog bite, lot's of shots, some stellar experiences, some shit, a lot of drink, a lot of money, an island along the way with an amazing little Filipina. Some great new friends. Problem is, if I did this full time I would either be dead of at the least need a penile implant.
Caveat: This is my experience. YMMV The trip has been a blast. Mikati, Cebu, Mikati, Sabang, HCMC, Pattaya, and now BKK.
Personally I don't care if anyone thinks I paid too much or I fucked up something else. I'm not looking to get into a pissing match with anyone. This is always a learning experience for all of us. And it changes every year if not sooner. I'm reporting my experiences. Take what you will, leave the rest.
I'll post some pictures when I get back but I got tired of taking them halfway in the trip. Some of the girls don't like it and if they don't, forcing it detracts from the experience.
On to BKK
Reiner Otto
04-02-14, 07:18
Bar fines are 1000, they will try for 1500 if they think they can get away with it but quickly settle at 1000.I usually get 1 drink if I'm interested but cut them loose after one if the don't BF. Bar fine is usually 2000 ST 3000 LT.Bar fine is 1000-1500, for the girl 2000ST. 3000LT. Although my first try quoted 2500ST+1000, which I rejected.
BTW: My girl was OK. No reason to complain. I have to admit, that during daylight she is not as pretty as in the GoGo, but she just left about 12:00 lunchtime. So, for 3000LT+1000, very well. Unfortunately, because of lack of knowledge of language, most likely will not repeat.
Have fun in BKK!
Personally I don't care if anyone thinks I paid too much or I fucked up something else. I'm not looking to get into a pissing match with anyone. This is always a learning experience for all of us. And it changes every year if not sooner. I'm reporting my experiences. Take what you will, leave the rest.Nope, brother, this report is as it should be: informative, the pricing, and a few good laughs. Bravo.
I stayed at the Stay Hotel on soi 10. Got the suite so it was pricy at 4280. Breakfast for two included. I got to stop doing that breakfast thing because quite frankly I don't like eating breakfast with hookers that I can't communicate with. I'd rather read the NYTimes and start my day off relaxed. The hotel is newer so the rooms are very nice. Decent sized TV, very nice bathroom with a large walk in shower. Two problems though. 1. The internet slows to a crawl when a lot of people are using it. The lobby is always good. If you have a network cable it works fine. If you have a Mac Air you'll need an adapter. You can find one at Tucon (sp) on South Pattaya Road. 2. The air-conditioning is shit. It's either the arctic or the sahara. No in-between. I used a little yankee ingenuity and closed off half the vent with a towel then at night I cranked it and left the balcony door somewhat open. I was able to make it somewhat comfortable. Definitely not to western standards. Not sure why they even have a thermostat. I do like staying on 10. It's close to the mall and I like the food court. Great crepes. The girl starts making it as soon as she sees me. It's also quiet. Decent massage place right across from the stay. Although I think I'm getting too old for Thai massages. They can be brutal. It's also an easy walk to Walking street. I usually start at 8 and work my way down...Great report! My first experience in Pattaya was mediocre at best. I will follow your lead next time. Bangkok I know but in Pattaya I am a lost puppy.
FruitNinja
04-02-14, 09:21
Bar fine is 1000-1500, for the girl 2000ST. 3000LT. Although my first try quoted 2500ST+1000, which I rejected.
BTW: My girl was OK. No reason to complain. I have to admit, that during daylight she is not as pretty as in the GoGo, but she just left about 12:00 lunchtime. So, for 3000LT+1000, very well. Unfortunately, because of lack of knowledge of language, most likely will not repeat.
Have fun in BKK!Reiner,
Good meeting you. Thanks for the tour. Good fun!
Ahh, your girl was like my first one. Better in the red light. I think it's no accident that the lights are red in all the clubs. I think it hides blemishes and gives them a warm look.
Until next time.
Great report FruitNinja, right on the money and all well done. If I can add a suggestion is that you go to work the disco / FLs, sometime you can find great value there, like my beloved nympho Som and many others. It's a little more effort but will train your selection skills like nothing else, and can be very, very rewarding. You always have a plan B if you need it.
Also, you can find plenty of places at 428 Bt daily (on a weekly basis) instead of 4,280 freeing up Bt 3,852 Bt for the hobby. Fully adjustable A/C, backing up the best excuse "sorry I have money nitnoi", and no wasted breakfast to share with uncommunicative girls.
CockTeased
04-03-14, 17:56
I've been residing in Pattaya now for one month. It took me about two weeks to get fed up with the bars rip off's, which means overpriced drinks and this yada yada all the time about buying the working girls so called lady drinks. Two hours in a bar costed me at least 500 B, for what, a few drinks, a few lady drinks and just pseudo socialising.
Now I never even look at the bar girls, I hang out with expats on Beach Road at the evenings, getting cheap drinks from 7-Eleven and when I want to fuck I get it for 500 B with the Beach Road hotties in their twenties, and I don't have to go with the skanks that is also at Beach Road.
But keep on spending as much as you can Koreans and HiSo Yankees, up to you.
Now, does anyone know which hotel the African and Uzbekian (?) girls are residing in?
LukeSkyWanker
04-03-14, 20:09
Firstly I would like to thank fruit ninja for his report, very enjoyable. I am thinking of bringing my Philippina girlfriend from Singapore to Pattaya again, I brought her with me in October last year and had a great time. She is happy for me to have a massage and a happy ending as long as I don't fuck them, this is a good arrangement as she fucks my brains out any chance she gets. My reason for posting is simple, do any Pattaya experts know where I could send her for a massage and she would have a happy ending also, I mean not get fucked but a good hand rub or vibro treatment. While she is getting juiced up I have more time for Bliss or Soi post office hahaha.
May the force be with you.
My reason for posting is simple, do any Pattaya experts know where I could send her for a massage and she would have a happy ending also,Only if I was there. LOL Sorry couldn't resist.
I've been residing in Pattaya now for one month. It took me about two weeks to get fed up with the bars rip off's, which means overpriced drinks and this yada yada all the time about buying the working girls so called lady drinks. Two hours in a bar costed me at least 500 B, for what, a few drinks, a few lady drinks and just pseudo socialising.
Now I never even look at the bar girls, I hang out with expats on Beach Road at the evenings, getting cheap drinks from 7-Eleven and when I want to fuck I get it for 500 B with the Beach Road hotties in their twenties, and I don't have to go with the skanks that is also at Beach Road.
But keep on spending as much as you can Koreans and HiSo Yankees, up to you.
Now, does anyone know which hotel the African and Uzbekian (?) girls are residing in?You are the new King of Pattaya mate! LOL
CheeChee889
04-04-14, 06:35
I've been residing in Pattaya now for one month. It took me about two weeks to get fed up with the bars rip off's, which means overpriced drinks and this yada yada all the time about buying the working girls so called lady drinks. Two hours in a bar costed me at least 500 B, for what, a few drinks, a few lady drinks and just pseudo socialising.
Now I never even look at the bar girls, I hang out with expats on Beach Road at the evenings, getting cheap drinks from 7-Eleven and when I want to fuck I get it for 500 B with the Beach Road hotties in their twenties, and I don't have to go with the skanks that is also at Beach Road.
But keep on spending as much as you can Koreans and HiSo Yankees, up to you.
Now, does anyone know which hotel the African and Uzbekian (?) girls are residing in?One thing I notice about Pattaya agogos is I can't make it to 45 minutes. In BKK I can easily stay for an hour.
A beach road hottie goes for 500 baht-what does a beach road skank go for-a hotel bar of soap and a bottle of water?
CockTeased
04-05-14, 05:18
One thing I notice about Pattaya agogos is I can't make it to 45 minutes. In BKK I can easily stay for an hour.
A beach road hottie goes for 500 baht-what does a beach road skank go for-a hotel bar of soap and a bottle of water?AGoGo's is a joke, big scam and two week tourist trap, they've got ridiculous prices both on drinks, LD's, barfines and fuck, but the more it cost the happier the Koreans get, stupid people even the girls tells me, but sure they are happy the more money they get their hands on, too bad they risk to spoil the market in the long run for more budget John's.
A Beach Road skank in her forties go for 300 B they've told me, though I would not go with these even if they paid me 300 or even 1000 B LOL.
I think you could even get the skanks if you filled up her stomach from the street waggons.
Mr Enternational
04-05-14, 14:41
I've been residing in Pattaya now for one month. It took me about two weeks to get fed up with the bars rip off's, which means overpriced drinks and this yada yada all the time about buying the working girls so called lady drinks. Two hours in a bar costed me at least 500 B, for what, a few drinks, a few lady drinks and just pseudo socialising.
Now I never even look at the bar girls, I hang out with expats on Beach Road at the evenings, getting cheap drinks from 7-Eleven and when I want to fuck I get it for 500 B with the Beach Road hotties in their twenties, and I don't have to go with the skanks that is also at Beach Road.
But keep on spending as much as you can Koreans and HiSo Yankees, up to you.
Now, does anyone know which hotel the African and Uzbekian (?) girls are residing in?It's a different ball game living somewhere and being on vacation somewhere. It's okay to spend like that if you are on vacation because you are making memories and should not be jaded in that short of time. You don't see people who live in Las Vegas running out to the casinos and shows every night. When you live somewhere you should learn the real ropes. Not to mention, if you tried to go to a gogo/bar everyday you would soon go broke. Just like the guys recently talking about a bar fine for 1500 and giving a girl 3000 for LT. Dude my rent is 4500/month. There is no way in hell I would pay out that much for a chick for 1 night. If you live in Pattaya you could have someone on retainer for a month for that much and get them to come over when you want. But when you are on vacation you are in have-a-good-time mode and it doesn't matter as much.
I think most of the Uzbek and African chicks stay in apartments in Jomtien under the watch of whoever "sponsored" them to go to Thailand and is holding their passport.
Tip: If you are going to a bar or disco and you are drinking liquor, then it is best to buy a bottle. If you order a single drink and compare it to what comes out of a bottle that you bought you can tell that the single drinks are drastically watered down.
CheeChee889
04-05-14, 17:07
Sharks review.
Not many girls. A bit overpricedat70 baht. Won't be returning. Customers were almost non-existant.
Pricing at Baccara and Sharks are very same same. Makes absolute no sense as far as Sharks goes. The customers going to Baccara and bypassing sharks makes a lot of sense. I will be a regular at Baccaras.
I've been residing in Pattaya now for one month.
Now, does anyone know which hotel the African and Uzbekian (?) girls are residing in?Well, last year, on my last night on Pattaya. At 2am. Me and my friend had a sudden urge for some Uzbek beauties. So, we went to 'Mid Town Inn' hotel (near Camelot hotel). Where Uzbek WLs usually hang around at evenings. But at 2am there was none. But a bike-taxi-man told us he can get uzbeki girls for us. So we hopped on two bikes and went to an apartment blocks behind Mike shopping mall. The bike-taxi man called someone and within 5 minutes 2 uzbeki beauties got down. They rode along with us on the bikes to our hotel.
My friend took the older one. He was lucky because she was A+ service provider. Total damage 1000 tbh / each girl + 300 thb bike-taxi fare and commission.
Service 7/10, Look 7.5/10, not bad huh.
My one's name was Layla and I even have her number. But I can't share it here because forum rules forbid it.
Well, last year, on my last night on Pattaya. At 2am. Me and my friend had a sudden urge for some Uzbek beauties. So, we went to 'Mid Town Inn' hotel (near Camelot hotel). Where Uzbek WLs usually hang around at evenings. But at 2am there was none. But a bike-taxi-man told us he can get uzbeki girls for us. So we hopped on two bikes and went to an apartment blocks behind Mike shopping mall. The bike-taxi man called someone and within 5 minutes 2 uzbeki beauties got down. They rode along with us on the bikes to our hotel.
My friend took the older one. He was lucky because she was A+ service provider. Total damage 1000 tbh / each girl + 300 thb bike-taxi fare and commission.
Service 7/10, Look 7. 5/10, not bad huh.
My one's name was Layla and I even have her number. But I can't share it here because forum rules forbid it.I am in Pattaya now. Can you please PM me the contact details? Thanks.
I get it for 500 B with the Beach Road hotties in their twenties, and I don't have to go with the skanks that is also at Beach Road.I haven't seen a hottie on BR in years!
I haven't seen a hottie on BR in years!I have never seen such sparse pickings, and certainly no hotties!
Greetings all.
I'm a relative newbie but have been a few times in the last few years.
Ill say this in advance. I can't be bothered with Walking Street. Especially the damn shows the people put on which blocks the already crowded street and restricts all movement. It doesn't really help that the tour groups are always around either.
So negativity aside, I decided on a plan of action for my trip after reading here and on other boards and put it into practice after my MR T TAXI from the Air Asia terminal in BKK. I got into Sabai Wing at about 20:30 and checked in. Threw my shit in the room, which is more than adequate and cheap enough for what it is, and headed straight to Soi 6. Nightwish is my bar in the Six and I really like the way they treat you as a customer there. There are not that many free drinks bandied about but the manager is welcoming and the girls are extremely fun. Especially the famous one there who everyone knows. She is GREAT.
I was too tired to do much there so I decided to check out the Drinking Street options and headed over there. Drinking street can be fun, but like any bar, you can walk into a boring situation with zero excitement and that is exactly what happened to me at the first bar. Name forgotten unfortunately and that is how it should be. After this I walked out to the first bar on the left as you enter the complex. Utoo bar or something like that and immediately after I sat down next to a very cute girl who was on a break I was accosted by the mama. For me at least, the mama and the staff were not pushy at all when it came to drinks. I like this and I bought mama and saw a girl I liked the look of and one for her as well. She had a pretty common sort of Thai name (again forgotten) but was quite tall and cute IMHO. At this point I had been up and around for ages and was getting tired. I told this girl that I wanted to BF her but didn't have enough money to pay her. It was 1000 for her and something like 500 for the bar. So mama suggested we head down to walking street and exchange some cash there. We got back to the room and had a couple of rounds with one in her arse as well. She gave me her number and I made some mention of coming back tomorrow etc etc. And I did as I felt comfortable with her and she wasnt in a mad rush to run off.
Day two started late. I went down to LK metro for breakfast at I Rovers. The 99 baht breakfast there is perfect. Can't even get close to that where I live (Japan). Late afternoon I was sitting in the big bar there Billabong or whatever is it called and got ready to hit some of the gogos around there. Amethyst was empty when I went in there. Too early but I found a rather cute girl there who was right in so many ways. It was way too early on the whole so I headed to the six again. Ning welcomed me to Nightwish with a kiss and a drink.
She is a great host and really enjoyed my time with her upstairs as well.
To be continued later.
Well, last year, on my last night on Pattaya. At 2am. Me and my friend had a sudden urge for some Uzbek beauties. So, we went to 'Mid Town Inn' hotel (near Camelot hotel). Where Uzbek WLs usually hang around at evenings. But at 2am there was none. But a bike-taxi-man told us he can get uzbeki girls for us. So we hopped on two bikes and went to an apartment blocks behind Mike shopping mall. The bike-taxi man called someone and within 5 minutes 2 uzbeki beauties got down. They rode along with us on the bikes to our hotel.
My friend took the older one. He was lucky because she was A+ service provider. Total damage 1000 tbh / each girl + 300 thb bike-taxi fare and commission.
Service 7/10, Look 7. 5/10, not bad huh.
My one's name was Layla and I even have her number. But I can't share it here because forum rules forbid it.Interesting, I always wonder about these girls. Please PM her info, I'd love to try her. Thanks.
R.
Finally I took the plunge and visited Pattaya after 3 years of living in Bangkok. I was really not that impresses. I looked at the girls on Beach road and they reminded me of street hookers back home or the ones in the Nana parking lot. My idea is if the girls have to work on the street instead if a go go, normal bar as a FL, or a lady in a staff bar then they have some issues- HIV, bad attitudes, post or per op ladyboy, amd or maybe just a typical thief or scammer. I checked out the massage parlours a the I prefer Bangkok's must more. Quality of white skin hotties is much greater. On walking street the typical go go's were in full swing. I looked in most of them and they were not any different than Bangkok. So why go to Pattaya? Bargain prices on Soi 6 ot beach road would be the only reason to choose Pattaya as a mongering destination in my option. I think Bangkok offers everything that Pattaya does and more. I ended up at one of those outside beer garden type places on walking street. In one section there is about 12-20 small little bars each with about 10 girls working. Their job is to sell drinks, including lady drinks, and find a potential customer to bar fine them for the night. Customer drinks are about 100-150THB. Lady drinks are about 50-80THB more. The bar fine is 300-400THB. There are many real cute and beautiful spinners in these small bars all located in one pad area in walking street. 1500ST and 2000-3000LT. So I found myself a little hottie for the night and all was good. Can you find all this in Bangkok? Yes, but it was a good experience anyways.
ShaggedOut
04-10-14, 05:23
I've been residing in Pattaya now for one month. It took me about two weeks to get fed up with the bars rip off's, which means overpriced drinks and this yada yada all the time about buying the working girls so called lady drinks. Two hours in a bar costed me at least 500 B, for what, a few drinks, a few lady drinks and just pseudo socialising.
Now I never even look at the bar girls, I hang out with expats on Beach Road at the evenings, getting cheap drinks from 7-Eleven and when I want to fuck I get it for 500 B with the Beach Road hotties in their twenties, and I don't have to go with the skanks that is also at Beach Road.
But keep on spending as much as you can Koreans and HiSo Yankees, up to you.
Now, does anyone know which hotel the African and Uzbekian (?) girls are residing in?Two hours in a bar for 500 baht? You sound like a real class act!
CheeChee889
04-10-14, 06:51
I have never seen such sparse pickings, and certainly no hotties!Lets be fair. I haven't actualy seen a decent customer doing business with these HOttIes either. LOL. Either pack of indians going for the group discount or very nastie looking swede guy. LOL.
How guys think hot chicks go for 500 baht is mind muggling.
Sugarbaby is number 1 bar as far as my 1 week sampling went. The why got some really decent bodies with decent faces on the topless side, way better than anything on Rainbows topless stage.
On Sugarbabys nude side I saw 2 of the ugliest bodies I evere saw- one was as flat chested and ugly as one can get. LOL. The othe just a nasty botched boob job.
FruitNinja
04-10-14, 11:13
Two hours in a bar for 500 baht? You sound like a real class act!This report makes me think this guy is being totally sarcastic. I mean really. He is bitching about 500 baht for a couple of hours at gogo. An hour sipping a drink? Really? And he's doing hotties for 500. I was on Beach Road during and just after the festival and there were quite a lot of attractive young ladies. But as everything in life, timing is everything. For me I was impressed with the 3 I got off BR. But the majority. 90% I would not do. Maybe I got lucky. But I had shit experiences with bar girls in Patayya.
And I'm sorry but buying quarts at 7-11 and drinking on the beach is just not my way of enjoying life.
Reiner Otto
04-10-14, 17:04
For me I was impressed with the 3 I got off BR. But the majority. 90% I would not do.Was on BR yesterday. Number of service providers decreased drastically, and now odds are "99. 9% I would not do".
So I used my last resort: The girl from the beer bar in Jomtien, on my way back home.
Last weekend ahead. Planning for UA already. The currency exchange rate is seducing.
FruitNinja
04-11-14, 11:16
Was on BR yesterday. Number of service providers decreased drastically, and now odds are "99. 9% I would not do".
So I used my last resort: The girl from the beer bar in Jomtien, on my way back home.
Last weekend ahead. Planning for UA already. The currency exchange rate is seducing.The one in the pink outfit you met was picked up in the afternoon. Like around 1. So you never really know. Timing. What city are you thinking. I'll be in the south of France in May but with a regular girl.
Reiner Otto
04-11-14, 13:30
What city are you thinking.Just booked the flights. Will stay in Nikolaev during June, and the first weekend of July in Odessa. Arkadia is waiting.
Hello,
I will be arriving in Bangkok and heading straight to Pattaya shortly. Do you know of any VIP pickup service where she can give me some company and soothe away those tired muscles after the long flight with a massage on my road trip from Bangkok to Pattaya. I checked our mr. Dream transport service but the website mentions that the VIP service is no longer available.
Thanks a lot in advance.
G
My idea is if the girls have to work on the street instead if a go go, normal bar as a FL, or a lady in a staff bar then they have some issues- HIV, bad attitudes, post or per op ladyboy, amd or maybe just a typical thief or scammer.All these issues are also applicable for the girls in your preferable ventures too. And the chances are same as you afraid for the Beach road girls. If some one prefer GFE issue, so it will be much considerable for Beach road girls than any other ventures.
Hello,
I will be arriving in Bangkok and heading straight to Pattaya shortly. Do you know of any VIP pickup service where she can give me some company and soothe away those tired muscles after the long flight with a massage on my road trip from Bangkok to Pattaya.These might work for you:
Http://devilsdenthailand.com/vip-bus.html
http://www.penthousehotel.com/taxi_pattaya_transportation_bangkok_cab_international_airport_limousine_suvarnabhumi_pickup_escort_thai_girls_car_penthouse_boutique_hotel.html
http://secretspattaya.com/chauffeur-service/
SunLover
On Walking Street the typical go-gos were in full swing. I looked in most of them and they were not any different than Bangkok. So why go to Pattaya? Bargain prices on Soi 6 would be the only reason to choose Pattaya as a mongering destination in my option. I think Bangkok offers everything that Pattaya does and more.When it comes to go-go clubs, I think it's significant that a guy who *lives* in Bangkok thinks the Walking Street establishments are "not any different." I would also note the go-go scene on Soi LK Metro has improved by leaps and bounds recently. If Mr. Mooris returns to Pattaya, he should make it a point to visit that part of town.
As for Bangkok offering "everything Pattaya does and more," I can't quibble. A naughty boy can find whatever he desires in the capital city, plus all manner of shopping, dining and cultural activities not on offer in Pattaya. That said, Pattaya has something Bangkok doesn't, namely a laid back beach resort ambiance. The entire place is optimized for people on holiday. There is abundant lodging at all price points. The baht buses make it silly simple to get around. Food is dirt cheap. You can't walk 20 meters without passing a modest little hole in the wall where you can have a drink or a meal or a long lazy afternoon chat with your mates. And let's not forget the beach.
I love Bangkok and make it a point to enjoy both its demimonde and its more reputable charms every time I visit Thailand. But Pattaya lowers my blood pressure and I make it a point to spend the bulk of my time there.
Bunky
FruitNinja
04-12-14, 19:07
Just booked the flights. Will stay in Nikolaev during June, and the first weekend of July in Odessa. Arkadia is waiting.I'll be in Provence from 8 May to 18 May with my friend, then a week to play somewhere. Any suggestions? Email me and let's discuss. Maybe I'll take another week.
Sir Lancelot
04-15-14, 21:14
pattaya, day 11, thursday.
it is worth noting that mandalay's airport is a fair distance from the city. my taxi crawled through the down-town traffic but soon we were speeding our way down near-deserted motorways. the journey took an hour and cost $12. i was sad to leave burma. although i had only spent three days in yangon, followed by four days being a tourist in bagan and mandalay, i fell in love with the place and the people. i definitely wouldn't recommend burma as a place to visit solely for pay-for-play but if you wanted to visit a beautiful country with ample girls available in the capital, then it's a good option.
the flight back to bangkok took an hour and 45 minutes. there are plenty of taxis available to pattaya (cost 1200 baht) but it was mid-afternoon and i was in no rush. i took the crowded a1 'shuttle bus' from don muang airport to mo chit, which cost 30 baht and took 15 minutes. from mo chit i took the skytrain to ekkamai. it cost 42 baht, there were 16 stops and it took about half an hour. at one point a spectacularly pretty girl stood next to me, an undoubted 10/10 in my books. she was dressed smartly as if she was going to work, perhaps the front desk of a nice hotel. like all girls on the mts she was busy on her phone.
ekkamai bus station is located below the skytrain stop. sometimes there are touts outside who try to sell tickets for inflated prices but the counter for pattaya is the first on the right. there are regular buses throughout the day and my ticket cost 124 baht. the bus departed at 5pm and took two and a half hours. as usual the air-con was too cold and i didn't get much of a view because the thai people surrounding me closed their curtains to shield themselves from the late-afternoon sun. from pattaya bus station i jumped on to the back of a motorbike taxi to take me to my hotel.
the total cost of the journey from don muang airport to pattaya was 276 baht. the 1000 baht i saved by choosing public transport would be invested in bar-fines and lady-drinks!
i felt excited to be back in pattaya. eight days lay ahead of me and i wanted to average two girls a day. that meant somewhere out there were possibly 16 girls that i'd be fucking. i wondered whether i'd meet the same quality of girls as i did last year. i texted my friend macca to tell him i had arrived. i hadn't seen him since last year so was looking forward to catching up. it had been a tiring day and i didn't fancy a late night, so i suggested we meet on walking street tomorrow.
once again i chose to stay at lek hotel. it's handily located on 2nd road, near the beach, walking street, soi lk metro and various massage parlours. my room cost 1200 baht per night and was clean and spacious. the rooms overlooking the pool have balconies but mine was on the opposite side of the building. i'm sure better value hotels can be found elsewhere but there is a lot to be said for familiarity and i also like lek's breakfast and dinner buffet.
the time was just after 8pm and i wanted to hit the ground running with a great girl on my first night. after a long day of travel but what better way to relax than a soapy massage? i quickly showered and changed, then flagged down a songthaew outside my hotel, a pick-up with two facing benches in the back. a constant stream of them loop up 2nd road and then back down beach road, you just flag one down, jump in the back and then when you get to your destination you ring a buzzer and jump off. the fare is always 10 baht which you pass through the window to the driver.
sabai dee is a large colourful building located on the junction between 2nd road and soi 1, opposite big c shopping centre. i walked in at 9pm and took a seat in front of the l-shaped fishbowl. 40 girls were sitting on the steps with those on the right costing 2000 baht and the generally prettier girls on the left costing 2400. i ordered a drink as i like to take my time. there were some nice girls and they were all aged between 20 and 30 with the younger ones mainly in the higher price bracket. i received lots of smiles and waves as i slowly scanned around. i didn't see annie who i fucked here last year which i had mixed feelings about. i like to go with different girls but she was one of the most skilled performers i have ever been with (girls who creatively use their fingernails always score highly!). had she been there i suspect i would have found her hard to resist.
a dozen indian men walked in. the papasan instructed them to sit down at a free table but they ignored his request and stayed standing which obscured my view of 50% of the girls. i relocated to another seat in front of the 'models' but made sure that i registered my annoyance to the papasan with a shake of my head as i walked past. i now had a much better view, slap-bang in front of the prettiest girls. number 110 had dark skin and exactly the kind of curvy figure i like with enticingly large tits. next to her was sat number 142 who was the opposite, pale and skinny but just as cute. she mouthed hi as i looked in her direction. i saw a stunner walk past and sit down on the top step. she was a 9/10 with blond hair and a top-heavy figure but almost instantly she was picked by a middle-aged japanese man. you've got to hand it to these japs, they have good taste in girls.
i opted for number 110. she had a warm, girl-next-door appeal but what clinched the deal was her figure. if you go for a soapy massage you may as well pick a girl with curves! i paid 2400 at the counter and my choice of girl came to stand next to me. she was cute, had a nice smile and her large tits were trying their best to fight their way out of the red dress she was wearing. she introduced herself as taw and her dark skin made her look more indian than thai. we shared the lift with two other couples, including the voluptuous 9/10 i had seen in the fishbowl. she was number 103 and looked even better up close. the two customers were japanese and as always they stood next to their girls in a very formal, businesslike manner, almost like they were about to conduct a job interview. in contrast taw pinched me on the bum. when i looked accusingly down at her she was a picture of innocence. i was delighted with my choice.
it got better when we got to the room. she told me to sit down and sat astride me, kissed me passionately and then pulled my face in to her tits. when i pulled away for breath she started licking my ear!
the format is always the same in soapies. she got undressed and had a beautiful curvy body with big tits. in the fishbowl they looked natural as they wobbled whenever she shifted position but now i could see that they were fakes, probably c-cup. she tied her hair up and we got in to the bath together. this is always a good opportunity to get to know your girl as she attentively soaps and washes you. then she asked me to lie on the inflatable mattress and used her naked body to slip and slide over me. i was in heaven. i like the fact that no soapy is the same and taw's signature move was to slide one leg beneath me and 'scissor' me, a position favoured by lesbians the world over. as she did so she reached below me and gave me a hand-job. she asked me to turn over and used her large assets to massage my front, kissing me on the lips each time her face was level with mine. she then slid down and placed her tits either side of my dick and gave me an enjoyable tit-wank. this girl knew how to please.
as she was rinsing the suds off afterwards, i felt a sharp pain. after a close examination of my erection, i realised that taw's soapy massage had been so intense and vigorous i had a small friction burn! presumably it was caused because there weren't enough suds on the mattress when i lay down. coincidentally the only other time this has happened was my first ever visit to sabai dee with a girl called atom. soapies should come with a health warning!
we lay on the bed kissing before taw teased her way down my body and gave me a nice blowjob. i took hold of one of her legs and lifted it over me so that we were in 69. taw sucked slowly and deeply as i flicked my tongue over her clit and whenever i stuck my tongue in to her, she groaned. i enjoyed watching in the ceiling mirror above the bed. the sex matched the foreplay. she was a willing performer and happily tried lots of positions. she started by riding me but her pussy was so tight i flipped her on to her back to gain control. she loved to be fucked hard with her ankles on my shoulders. from that position i took both of her ankles and placed them to my right, down on the bed next to each other. taw was still on her back but i was entering her pussy sideways, a position asian girls particularly seem to love as it means their pussy is very tight. i like it too because i can lie down behind them, still inside, and 'spoon' them from behind, one of my favourite positions. taw kissed me over her shoulder as she played with herself.
when we finished we lay naked on the bed and talked to each other via the ceiling mirror. she looked pretty, her lovely body stretched over the bed and her hair spread over the pillow. after 15 minutes we got changed and i took her mobile number. everything was going perfectly until i asked for a photo. she said "next time we meet you can take photos". i always respect it when girls don't want their picture taken but she was such a great girl, i jokingly tried to persuade her. suddenly her demeanor changed and her smile disappeared."you just want photo to show friend girls you fuck" she said. she was right in a way. my friend macca had told me via email a week ago that he wanted to have a soapy massage, so i hoped to take a photo of taw to show him. we have similar taste in girls and i would recommend her since she provided such a good service. i tried to tell this to taw but by now she was angry with me. the more i tried to explain, the angrier she got.
i pride myself that i always get on well with pay-for-play girls and treat them with the respect they deserve, so when she walked away when we got out of the lift without a goodbye, i regarded it as a personal failing. i had offended her. immediately when i left sabai dee i sent her a text message to apologise. because she had walked away without saying goodbye, i hadn't had chance to give her a tip and she had been such a great girl and willing performer she deserved one. i told her that i didn't mean to upset her and i would like to take her for dinner one night to apologise.
my original plan was to have a soapy at sabai dee and then an early night but now i was on a roll. i hadn't slept with any girls for the last four days of my burma trip and now i wanted to make up for it. it was only 11pm so i had time for a quickie on soi 6 before bed-time. it is a street that stretches between 2nd road and beach road that is lined with about 40 short-time bars. if you see a girl you like, you can take her to a room upstairs, a bit like amsterdam's red light district. it's quick and easy (or should that be quick and sleazy?). the street was busy and i'd guess there were about 250 girls. i slowly walked down the middle of the road and lots of girls sitting on stools called hello. the majority of girls were aged between 25 and 35 and although most are fairly average, there is usually a gem or two to be found. i like soi 6 because it feels like a lucky dip.
about halfway down an attractive lady-boy grabbed my arm. she was wearing a tight white dress that revealed a big pair of fake tits and she had mesmerising eyes with big pouty lips. she was probably the most feminine ladyboy i've met but there was nothing feminine about her grip! ladyboys are not my thing so i wriggled free and continue down soi 6 where i spotted a likely candidate outside full moon bar. she was one of the younger girls on display with a nice face and curves to match. i decided to go for it. i said hello and two minutes later we were inside the bar clinking bottles of beer. she stroked my leg as we chatted and i felt myself getting hard. her name was bell and i decided it was time for 'seconds out, round 1'. the room cost 300 and her price was 1000 baht. not long ago 700 was the going-rate for a quickie on soi 6 but the prettier girls now charge 1000.
sometimes the rooms on soi 6 can be quite basic but this one was great. it had leopard-skin decor and there was even a mirror on the ceiling over the bed. it felt sleazy which is exactly what i want when i come to soi 6. after showering we lay on the bed kissing. she had big soft lips and after a while she kissed her way down my body and gave me an excellent blowjob. i watched myself in the ceiling mirror, spread-eagled on the leopard-skin covers with bell's head bobbing up and down. i had a shock when i looked down and noticed that my dick was red but soon realised it was bell's cheap lipstick! i wiped my wrist across my lips and sure enough there was a red smear from when i had been kissing her.
the sex was fast and frantic. she seemed a game girl so when i was fucking her doggy-style i inserted a finger in to her ass. she softly groaned so i pulled my dick out of her pussy and teased her asshole with it. she didn't resist so i gently pushed. she was extraordinarily tight but she pushed back on to me and after a few seconds my dick slid in. she groaned loudly so i was gentle at first, slowly easing in and out but ten minutes later i was pounding her ass as hard as i could as she gripped the pillow tightly.
when we finished we lay next to each other on the bed chatting. normally this is the signal to shower again and get changed but not this time. she leaned across and deep french kissed me and stroked my dick back in to life."you horny?" bell asked unnecessarily. second out, round two.
it was only when i was taking a songthaew back to my hotel that i realised that i didn't take a photo of her. i cursed myself. tonight i'd had three great fucks with two great girls but i didn't have one single photo to show for it. or so i thought. just before i went to bed my phone buzzed and it was a message from taw from sabai dee. it said 'nice to meet you' so i felt pleased that she'd accepted my apology. surprisingly she'd also attached a photo and even more surprisingly it was a full body shot of her wearing a bikini. the photo was pre boob-job but it showed off her lovely curves.
i went to bed happy. tonight had been a great start to my time in pattaya.
[the previous parts to this diary can be found in the bangkok, burma 'general info' and mandalay threads]
Totobiscot
04-16-14, 04:39
Interesting, I always wonder about these girls. Please PM her info, I'd love to try her. Thanks.
R.Yes definitely interesting.
Can you please PM me their info and contact?
Thanks bro
Bartchamdo
04-16-14, 06:54
Thanks for your reports, Sir Lancelot. Great detail and very helpful for others.
I took the crowded A1 'shuttle bus' from Don Muang Airport to Mo Chit, which cost 30 baht and took 15 minutes. From Mo Chit I took the skytrain to Ekkamai. It cost 42 baht, there were 16 stops and it took about half an hour.I think there's a more efficient way to do this trip on public transit. Don Muang and Suvarnabhumi Airport are connected with a free bus service. Some of the Ekkamai to Pattaya buses stop at Suvarnabhumi on the way. Since you didn't leave Ekkamai til 5:00 pm you probably got caught in rush hour. Don Muang to Suvarnabhumi to Pattaya might have avoided the rush hour, making the whole trip quicker and cheaper. This might help others in a similar situation.
Thanks again for the field reports.
Wolvenvacht
04-16-14, 07:25
(...) making the whole trip quicker and cheaper. (...)We have to drop our Western attitude of wanting everything to be quick and cheap. This is Thailand, relax. If you chase your happiness it will escape you always.
Sir Lancelot took the long way and look, "a spectacularly pretty girl" stood next to him. Look at a pretty girl or be in your hotel 30 minutes faster? I know what I want (be in my hotel with the pretty girl).
I take the shuttle to Suvanabumi, free with today's boarding pass. 40 min to 1 1/2 hrs, depending on traffic and then the Jomtien bus for 124 bt. 1 1/2 hrs, from Teeprasit Road which is the last stop and the most convenient, after that it is just the 10 bt bus to and down second road. 15 min. What saves time down the road is to buy the ticket for the way back to the airport while you are there.
Finally I took the plunge and visited Pattaya after 3 years of living in Bangkok. I was really not that impresses. I looked at the girls on Beach road and they reminded me of street hookers back home or the ones in the Nana parking lot. My idea is if the girls have to work on the street instead if a go go, normal bar as a FL, or a lady in a staff bar then they have some issues- HIV, bad attitudes, post or per op ladyboy, amd or maybe just a typical thief or scammer. I checked out the massage parlours a the I prefer Bangkok's must more. Quality of white skin hotties is much greater. On walking street the typical go go's were in full swing. I looked in most of them and they were not any different than Bangkok. So why go to Pattaya? Bargain prices on Soi 6 ot beach road would be the only reason to choose Pattaya as a mongering destination in my option. I think Bangkok offers everything that Pattaya does and more. I ended up at one of those outside beer garden type places on walking street. In one section there is about 12-20 small little bars each with about 10 girls working. Their job is to sell drinks, including lady drinks, and find a potential customer to bar fine them for the night. Customer drinks are about 100-150THB. Lady drinks are about 50-80THB more. The bar fine is 300-400THB. There are many real cute and beautiful spinners in these small bars all located in one pad area in walking street. 1500ST and 2000-3000LT. So I found myself a little hottie for the night and all was good. Can you find all this in Bangkok? Yes, but it was a good experience anyways.As a newbie to Thailand. I just came back from Bangkok and Pattaya and I prefer Pattaya over Bangkok much more!
1. Club scene. Pattaya you have Insomia, Mixx, Flexx, Marine, Pier and more all on Walking Street. Bangkok had Insanity (and that was only because a girl showed me it. There might be more).
2. Beach (Although beach looked like crap, I will have to take the boat out to the nicer beach I hear).
3. Beach Road and Soi 6 (Bangkok seems to be lacking in ST places). Will need to explore more, but these types of places are hit or miss and you would get better value and time pulling a girl from a club.
As for equating streetwalkers or freelancers in a club to HIV is just wrong. There are numerous reasons why some do not want to work in a gogo. One of which is a usually rigid schedule. If she has kids, part timer, student, etc, most can't commit to a fulltime gig at a gogo (This is my experience in South America).
Sir Lancelot
04-16-14, 23:19
pattaya, friday.
although last night was an excellent start to my time in pattaya, it had taken its toll. i woke with 'morning glory' and my dick felt sore due to the friction burn i'd got at the soapy. don't laugh, it's not funny. it would probably keep me out of action for today, which was frustrating but it wasn't the end of the world. i was meeting macca later for a 'gogo crawl' on walking street so even if i didn't bar-fine a girl, at least i could treat it as reconnaissance! it was a hot day so i spent the afternoon at the beach. it was crowded but i enjoyed watching hot russian girls walk past. sunglasses were invented to surreptitiously perv on girls in bikinis.
i ate at a thai restaurant near my hotel and afterwards noticed a familiar face at kannika beer-bar, opposite the night bazaar. it was poum, a girl i bar-fined five years ago on my cherry trip to pattaya. back then she talked about going back to her province to open a shop and in subsequent years i haven't seen her. but there she was, looking older but still wearing the same lovely smile. i considered saying hello but i didn't want to be late for my meeting with macca. i'd have chance to speak to her on another night.
i walked to walking street along beach road. from the end of soi 12 i counted 87 freelancers of different shapes and sizes, including girls from each end of the age spectrum. on the one hand i saw perhaps the oldest streetwalker i have ever seen, probably pushing 50. in contrast i saw several pretty young girls who could easily be dolled up to work in one of the top-end gogo bars. i saw one however who must surely have been ****, she looked about 15 to me. a big gorilla of a man was talking to her, probably three times her age and four times her weight. further on i saw two black girls. one had a big afro and a slinky figure. although i've fucked many black girls in amsterdam, i've never had a 'girlfriend experience' with one. i thought i was going to tick it off my 'bucket list' last year when i met a black girl off the internet. i went to her house and after enduring a mind-numbingly tedious rom-com (aren't they all?) , we were all over each other on her couch. there was lots of kissing and groping and before long she was giving me a handjob as i fingered her pussy. but when i pulled a condom out of my pocket she said "i'm not a slapper!" western women confuse me. giving me a handjob on a first date was okay but apparently sex would make her a 'slapper'! still, a handjob for a cheap bottle of white wine, i couldn't complain.
beach road is the bargain basement of pattaya and people who deride the quality of girls are missing the point. of course the large majority are lower rung girls but the beauty of any freelance scene is that you only need to find one girl to make it worthwhile. of the 87 girls i spotted three i'd happily spend the night with. and of course if i did decide to take one back to my hotel, i would pay considerably less than if i took a girl from a gogo bar. having said that, i think it's fair to say that the pretty young things would charge more than the 50 year old granny!
the time was 8. 40pm when i stepped on to walking street. it was packed with tourists, couples and even the occasional monger. indian men walked down the street filming on their camera and 20 identically dressed japanese women gathered under a tour-guides flag. there were lots of russian couples too, generally comprising of an attractive blond and a muscle-bound boyfriend sporting a mullet. russian guys look like they could be in an 80's soft rock video. i wouldn't say that to their face though.
i arrived at alcatraz and sat on a stool outside and ordered a draft beer. i enjoyed watching the 'hello girls' in action, handcuffs dangling from their leather belts, waving their 'happy hour' and '79 baht beer' signs to the river of people flowing past. i noticed a short man walk in to alcatraz and then thirty seconds later he walked out before repeating the process in farenheit next door. it's a pet hate of mine when guys do this and i know from speaking with girls that they find it disrespectful too. suddenly i saw a jack bauer lookalike waving enthusiastically from the crowd of people. it was macca looking more ripped than i remember."you've been working out!" i said as he shook my hand. it was great to catch up. he told me about his trip so far which had been mixed. he'd been with some great girls he told me but he'd also had a major scare when he fell off his motorbike and was lucky to escape with minor injuries.
normally people plot to escape from alcatraz but macca and i were desperate to get in. we took our beers inside and there were ten girls dancing, plus plenty on the sidelines. the quality was good and the standout was number 136. she had that killer combination of a beautiful face, a perfect toned body and she was a sexy mover too. if prisons had girls like her dancing topless every night, i'd hand myself in to police for a crime i didn't commit. a pretty girl sat on my lap but before we had chance to talk, all of the girls began banging ashtrays on the tables. i could barely hear myself think over all of the clank-clank-clanking. i realised it was to tie in with the prison theme. either that or the girls were having a protest at how skimpy their outfits were. i really like alcatraz. there are some pretty girls, the staff are very friendly and there is no pressure at all to buy lady-drinks. even the girl who sat on my lap didn't ask for one.
it was 10pm when we walked in to beach club. this was one of my favourite bars last year but sadly they've now changed the layout. there used to be a dozen round tables, each of which would have on it a naked young hottie. every five minutes the girls would step on to the next table which meant customers got a good close-up view of lots of naked girls. but now it's been transformed in to a standard gogo bar with a rectangular stage in the middle surrounded by two tiers of seats. fortunately the quality of girls was the same. all were young and i saw several hotties."you wait till you see number 98" said macca as we ordered two beers. before the drinks came back, two young girls walked over and plonked themselves next to macca and i. the girl next to me was extremely cute, with fair hair and a japanese-style fringe. her name was tom and she 19 years old. when i offered her a drink she gave me a big metal-mouthed smile.
this bar definitely has some pretty girls. a 9/10 walked past wearing 405 and macca pointed out a stunning waitress sat on a stool next to the stage. we agreed that she was the prettiest girl in the bar. however, her arms were folded and she looked rather glum. macca decided to go and speak to her but came back a minute later unimpressed."she didn't smile once" he said. when i said "why you not smile?" her friend said "she smile if you buy her drink". it's horrible when you encounter girls like this who clearly dislike their job. in stark contrast, tom was a little ray of sunshine. she told me "have to go dance now" and i watched with amusement as she climbed up on stage and danced for thirty seconds before a shift-change was called. she came back to sit next to me, grinning, and i said "shortest dance ever!" at least it gave me chance to admire her petite frame in a skimpy outfit.
although my plan was to have a girl-free night tonight, i knew there was a chance i might give in to temptation. tom seemed pleased when i angled her badge round so i could read her number. she was 603. even if i didn't bar-fine her tonight, i could always come back another time.
it was my turn to pick where to go and i opted for heavenabove. it's located on soi diamond above super baby. the steps have 'stairway to heaven' written on them but sadly there weren't many angels inside. last year i'd been impressed by this place and saw a few lovely girls including a 10/10, but this time there were just eight girls dancing and the standard was below par. 328 was the prettiest, with a stylish short hair-cut that made her stand out. another girl had a 5/10 face but a large pair of tits that macca and i decided were definitely real."enough wobble" was the consensus of opinion.
our favourite club last year was happy agogo, located at the end of soi happy. it has two stages and is always ram-jam-packed with customers. it was 11pm when we entered and macca immediately fell in love with number 15, a stunning girl with long legs. ten girls were dancing and every few minutes they each took a step forward. the girl at the front stepped off the stage and a new girl got on at the back. it's like a conveyor belt of pretty girls. as a result, the stools at the front of the stage are the best seats in happy. if you are lucky enough to sit at one and you see a girl you like, you can intercept her as she steps off the stage. an elderly japanese man wearing a baseball cap did exactly that with macca's dream girl, number 15. they talked briefly before he slipped a green note in to her bra."it'll take more than 20 baht to impress a girl like that" said macca with a smile. we both followed her with our eyes as she walked around the stage and sat with another customer. i made a mental note of her number for another night perhaps. all of the girls were easy on the eye but i didn't see any other standout options. it's funny, back in england i would crawl over hot coals to talk to any of these girls, but when in pattaya there are so many to choose from it's easy to become blase. macca and i were impressed by an average looking girl who danced with tremendous effort and enthusiasm. it was hypnotic to watch her slim body in perfect rhythm to the music. it suggested that she might be a tiger in bed.
next we touched down at airport, located back on walking street itself. it's a cosy bar and 10 girls were dancing with a few more writhing about in a jacuzzi. the place was crowded with customers and there wasn't anywhere to sit, so a couple of cute girls vacated their seats next to the door. i like these intimate bars as you are up-close-and-personal with the girls. macca had warned me that the standard of girls was down this year and he was right, the talent was surprisingly average. there were of course some pretty girls, including three fresh-faced honeys who were trying to sell tequila shots to customers. one of them pretended to cry when i told her that i didn't want one but then ruined our fledgling romance by asking "you buy me drink?" it's a big turn-off for me when a girl asks for a drink before names are even exchanged!
one problem with airport is that the girls dance in the same spot for too long. we were sat next to the exit so we only had a good view of the girl at the end of the stage. she was a tall 7/10 wearing fashionably thick glasses and she danced in front of us for 20 minutes, facing the opposite direction. macca and i decided to pay our bill but then two interesting things happened. firstly a topless young cutie sat on my lap who had an impressive pair of tits."i go now" i told her but at that moment there was a dance-shift change and a fantastic girl got up to dance right in front of us. she had a fresh-faced appeal and, wow, what a mover! macca and i watched mesmerised as she gyrated sexily around a chrome pole. she was topless and had a small pair of tits and her nipples were erect as she was dancing beneath the air-con (a trick bars use to get their girls to dance with more gusto!). she wasn't wearing a badge, so on my way out i picked up her bra that lay discarded on the stage. there was no number on that either."my name nom" she told me and i replied "you suay mak mak". i imagine myself to be like james bond when i deliver lines with such devastating effect.
i was having a great night. we had been to five bars and i'd met some fabulous girls. the prettiest so far were 15 from happy, nom from airport and the moody waitress from beach (who was eliminated from contention due to her lousy attitude). my favourite girl of the night though was tom, the cutie i bought a drink for in beach club. she was cute as a button and seemed lots of fun. it occurred to me that she was the only girl i'd bought a lady-drink for so far tonight.
at midnight we entered sensations, supposedly one of the best bars in pattaya. like all bars tonight, it was packed with customers. there were two rectangular stages with 10 girls crowded on each. the quality of girls was excellent. as i looked for somewhere to sit, a girl grabbed me and said "i love you" somewhat forwardly. she had a sexy body but the face of a hardened pro. i continued walking. five minutes later i noticed that she was sat astride another customer, pulling his face in to her tits. she'd moved on quickly! in front of the stage were several smartly dressed young waitresses and macca took a shine to one of them. he pretended to straighten the small tie she was wearing and once she sussed out his sense of humour, she smiled. it was the type of smile that could stop wars. she wasn't a sex-bomb or stunner like the girls on stage, she was just a very sweet, very pretty girl. she wore number 99. macca must have been in love because it was the quickest i've ever seen him offer a girl a drink.
as macca got to know her, i concluded that sensations definitely lives up to its name. there were lots of pretty girls but sadly, as is often the case, most of my favourites were with customers. timing and good luck play a key part in any gogo crawl. as i looked around, a 4/10 sat across my lap. i knew i wouldn't be bar-fining her but it's nice to have a nubile young body sat on your lap.
macca tapped me on the shoulder and told me that he really liked the waitress but when he asked about her bar-fine, she told him that she doesn't go with customers. she explained that when she first worked at the bar she was a dancer but she hated it and spent an hour each night under the shower because she "felt dirty". after just one week she asked whether she could be a waitress instead. however, macca told me that he was going to try to tempt her with a high offer and he wanted my advice. fortunately i had researched the place so i told him that 2000 was the correct short-time price although girls would ask for 2500. he gave it some thought and offered her a very generous 3000. she was tempted but stuck to her guns and said "sorry, no go with customers". she seemed apologetic but macca respected her decision. she'd tried her hand at pay-for-play and it wasn't for her so now she was just trying to make an honest buck working as a waitress. good luck to her.
we went to what's up next, located on soi 15 off walking street. macca said he had visited it earlier in his trip and it had some of the "prettiest girls in pattaya". there was a horror theme and ten girls were dancing onstage to michael jackson's 'thriller'. the waitresses were wearing scary masks and one escorted me to a stool next to the stage. she kissed me on the lips through her mask, which i found quite exciting as i didn't know what her face looked like.
the quality of girls was outstanding but sadly they didn't wear numbers so i couldn't make a note of my favourites. as i was looking around a 9/10 sat on my knee. her name was pom and she was a very cute 19 year old. i bought her a lady-drink and the more we chatted, the more i liked her. she had the looks, the body and was fun and flirty as well, definite bar-fine material. macca pointed out a pretty girl he had bar-fined before from a different bar. he told me that she had not looked a day over 18 and now, well, she still didn't look a day over 18. she spotted him, walked over and sat on his knee. the music changed and a white leather couch was carried on to the stage on which three topless girls writhed about and simulated sex acts. it was fun to watch from our front-row seats. one part was quite raunchy so i covered pom's eyes which made her laugh. on the other stage a blond with big tits pole-danced, spinning around and hanging upside while doing mid-air splits. i like bars that put on a bit of a show.
the bar-fine in what's up is 1000 baht and macca's girl quoted him a hefty 3000 for short-time. i wasn't surprised as my research revealed this to be one of the most expensive bars in pattaya. i didn't plan on taking a girl tonight but i asked pom how much as she would be a good option for another night. she quoted me 3000 for short-time as well. i'm pretty sure that could be talked down to 2500 but that is still 500 baht too expensive. it's a shame because what's up is in the top 5 bars in pattaya in terms of quality of girls.
by now the time was 1. 30am and it was my turn to choose bar. i opted for baccara as its namesake in bangkok has a reputation for having some of the prettiest girls. it's a big bar with two floors and although it can be difficult to get a place downstairs, we managed to fluke two leather seats next to the stage. we sat back and admired the view. 15 girls were dancing and from my vantage point i could see through the glass ceiling that some of the girls on the floor above weren't wearing underwear. the standout girl had a japanese look with pale skin and long curly blond hair. she was exactly the type that japanese customers drool over, undoubtedly one of the most popular girls in the club. just like baccara in bangkok, the girls looked very serious and there was minimal interaction with customers. thankfully the atmosphere picked up when a man threw a wad of 20 baht notes on to the stage. they fluttered to the floor and the girls screamed and scrambled around, picking up the loose notes. suddenly the girls were having fun. a 20 baht note fluttered below my stool so i picked it up and passed it to one of the girls on stage who gave me a big smile.
by now it was late and i felt under the weather, a combination of too much alcohol and an upset stomach. i told macca it was time for me to go and thanked him for a great night. it was nearly 2am and the number of girls on beach road had thinned out. i'd guess there were about 30 girls, most of whom were rather well-worn.
although i hadn't taken a girl, i'd had a great night. it was good to see macca again and i'd been impressed with walking street. the talent levels were high and i had several strong candidates for another time perhaps. bar-fine prices on walking street might be expensive but that was off-set by the fact that we weren't pressured in to buying lady-drinks. furthermore because there are so many gogo bars in competition on walking street, there are plenty of happy-hours to be found. it was a relatively cheap night given the amount of naked flesh we had seen!
i got back to lek hotel and fell asleep as soon as my head hit the pillow.
You're my hero. Who needs lonely planet or trip advisor when you are out there blazing trails and writing with such aplomb. Bravo. GT
Uncle Volodya
04-17-14, 11:19
Fabulous reports Sir L!
You manage to provide useful info even when you don't hook up for the night.
I will definitely be by to take a look at those stunners you I'd at various Gogos during my upcoming visit in a couple of weeks.
I'll also try and report my findings. Though it will be difficult to match your reports.
You have indeed sent the bar high you "Handsum mann" you!
Stay horny my friend...
Uncle V
Sir Lancelot
04-18-14, 03:22
=============================================
Greetings Everyone,
Last month we migrated the forum to a new, more powerful server.
The latest version of PHP on the new server included several subtle changes that were not compatible with our programming code.
These differences were so subtle that it took several days for the anomalies to be identified. Once we identified that we had a code compatibility issue, my programmer and my server administrator worked diligently for several days to comb through all of the forum's code searching for and modifying our code to work with the new version of PHP.
One anomaly was that a small number of posts were "eaten" by the system. We believe it was limited to posts containing a very specific, very little used character that we believe was either a hyphen or a semicolon. We're not exactly sure because our subsequent code modifications fixed the problem, thus preventing any additional examples of the anomaly.
Any member whose post content was inadvertently not published is welcome to re-post their original content.
Thanks,
Jackson
As she was rinsing the suds off afterwards, I felt a sharp pain. After a close examination of my erection, I realised that Taw's soapy massage had been so intense and vigorous I had a small friction burn! Presumably it was caused because there weren't enough suds on the mattress when I lay down. Coincidentally the only other time this has happened was my first ever visit to Sabai Dee with a girl called Atom. Soapies should come with a health warning!Any extended rubbing with soap, whether the usual brief hand-job in a normal soapy in the bath-tub or the body-to-body rubbing in one of these unusual ones that have a mattress, is hazardous to your skin. It feels good at first, but one should allow no more than a perhaps thirty seconds of such rubbing. Oil is better for the skin, soap is highly damaging.
Another great report, and I can sympathise with the experience of spending an evening looking for the right girl, only to realise that the clock is ticking away, you have to make a decision, and suddenly all the best girls have disappeared! And of course should you decide to bar-fine a 'second tier' girl, a stunner will walk around the corner. My plan is always to be tucked up in bed by midnight, so if thinks go a little awry, there is time to put things right. In this case I guess you should have trusted your instincts and avoided a girl who had previously been stand-offish for whatever reason.
I had a slightly less bad experience with a girl who told me that she didn't like the job while we were on the job, as it were. I had of course realised it by then. Both before and after she was perfectly pleasant, even offering me her phone number after. I think I forgot to write it down.
(And I hate to be picky, but 3,600 baht at Devil's Den gets you 90 minutes. 2 hours costs 4,400 baht).
Wolvenvacht
04-18-14, 19:33
The time was 3. 30am and I didn't feel in the mood to go and find another girl. It neatly summed up my time in Pattaya so far. Although I'd fucked a girl in Dream Teen earlier, this was my second girl-free night in a row. It was about time this trip started delivering me some quality girls.When I walk around to find a companion for the night, I take the first one that grabs my attention. Yes, there might be a better one 5 minutes in the future or just around the corner. But then again, there might not and one cannot calculate the probabilities of improving your hand. Mongering is not a poker game!
It helps to define beforehand what is your fancy for that night. Say I want someone with tanned skin, long hair, small tits but big nipples and trimmed pussy (I mainly go to agogo clubs where the girls dance nude, so I can check it all out). If after visiting one or two establishments I did not find anyone who ticks all boxes of my requirements I will accept someone with all but one of the requirements, and so on until you find one. Usually, it doesn't take long to find someone. Of course, next to these requirements, she must have a nice personality, smile at me and willing to kiss (DFK if possible, you can test that already in the club or bar).
This system is almost a sure-fire method of finding someone and not getting caught on the horns of the dilemma of "this one or perhaps there is a better one in the next bar".
Hi Fellow members,
Want some advice about the best escort agency in Pattaya.
Being average in looks and build, and also to save time in choosing, I am looking for more DFK kind gals.
Any help would be appreciated. Shall be visiting soon to Pattaya and reporting back.
Cheers
Lord Necros
04-18-14, 22:21
Has Devil's Den changed its number?
I tried calling it several times but can't get through.
Paul Kausch
04-18-14, 23:12
Has Devil's Den changed its number?
I tried calling it several times but can't get through.Maybe they closed for a few days for Songkran.
Has Devil's Den changed its number?
I tried calling it several times but can't get through.They closed for Songkran
Uncle Volodya
04-19-14, 06:49
You and your buddy cover a lot of ground. And as always great info. Many thanks!
I wouldn't feel too bad about the starfish. Everyone runs into one form time to time. It usually happens when you are forced to go against your better judgment towards the end of the evening. Has happened to me a couple of times. Though the girl was never as nightmarish as the one you describe.
I think you may have passed up a few sure things earlier in the evening. A bird in the hand.
I'm sure your luck will turn and that we'll be enjoying hearing about your exploits soon.
Stay horny my friend.
Uncle V
Hi Fellow members,
Want some advice about the best escort agency in Pattaya.
Being average in looks and build, and also to save time in choosing, I am looking for more DFK kind gals.
Any help would be appreciated. Shall be visiting soon to Pattaya and reporting back.
CheersWith Little flaming intentions, your nick says it all. Why one goes to Pattaya and then orders a room service from an escort agency. In Pattaya in 30 minutes you can audition quite a few girls, and at least you know in flesh what you take back to your room. And negotiate a decent price. Why call an agency to possibly get the same girl, without choosing her, or a totally different one (worst) at triple price?
With Little flaming intentions, your nick says it all. Why one goes to Pattaya and then orders a room service from an escort agency. In Pattaya in 30 minutes you can audition quite a few girls, and at least you know in flesh what you take back to your room. And negotiate a decent price. Why call an agency to possibly get the same girl, without choosing her, or a totally different one (worst) at triple price?If you audition girls on Soi 6 over a beer you can already check that part before buying. Burp.
Last time about a month ago I took a nice dancer from fun seeker dance bar, had only be there 3 weeeks (never met one that had been in pats more than 2 months-ha!) in her case it might have been true since she had that enthusiasm and liveliness that goes away later on. I took her then to a bar across the street and since she got tipsy already back to the room for round one, then a quick meal and to a few bars on walking street, namely x zone, windmill and babydolls and what ever audience participation bars I could think of. Drinks everywhere and then some. Things got a bit hazy so what happened later I am not sure anymore. The next day I gave her a thousand, since she had said up to you at the bar fining ceremony and I consider the tour part of the payment. She was very happy with that when she staggered away. It was also a very nice experience for me as the dynamic when you come in with a girl on you arm into he bars is very different, I bought some drinks for girls there too and fooled around with them quite a bit.
On another note I checked out the street where loiltas is in Pattaya since I noticed from the van when arriving a bunch of great inexpensive massage shops, like 200 / hr. Basically it is the extension of Soi Diana. I had a nice oil massage from a girl Mon at Mon massage, if I remember I right, half Khmer, not mon the owner, and since I liked the massage I came back the next day and when she asked about extras again I tugged a little on her shirt and everything came right off like in a magic trick! So after a bit of getting to know each other I put her on her back in the cubicle for a quick romp. What I liked was her attitude, like showering together and actually giving the full massage too. Since we had never talked money and I did not want to spoil it I gave her also a thousand for the whole thing on the way out and she was all smiles.
And yes. They both were nice kissers high and low, which was the whole point, wasn't it?
Sir Lancelot
04-20-14, 17:23
Pattaya, Day 14, Sunday.
Urgh, what a terrible end to last night. The lessen learnt is that you should always trust your instincts when picking a girl. If you think she's bad news or is going to be a bad performer, you are probably right. Find another girl, there are plenty to choose from. Although my time in Pattaya wasn't going to planned so far, there was no point dwelling on it. Today I set myself the goal of fucking two girls mimimum, perhaps even three. That would definitely set me back on the right track. I'd have a soapy in the afternoon, a quickie on soi 6 early evening and then see where the night took me.
After a leisurely afternoon it was time for a soapy massage. I decided to go to Honey, located just a short walk from my hotel on Soi 11. I arrived at 4. 30pm but the place looked closed for renovations. Just as I was contemplating looking elsewhere, a Thai man pointed down the side of the building. It was a different entrance to last year and I thought it was comical to see an ATM in the doorway.
The fishbowl was an awkward L-shape with pillars obstructing a clear view of the talent on offer. From my seat I could only see half of the girls. The papasan informed me that girls with red badges cost 2000 and those with blue badges cost 2500. There were 35 girls and I was highly impressed by the quality. Number 177 was the whole package, a pretty girl with a curvy body, but she was picked almost immediately by another customer. Number 100 was also very easy on the eye but she too was quickly summoned by an Asian customer. She had blond curly hair and her tits wobbled suggestively as she walked past. You've got to act quickly if you see a girl you like in places like this! I refocused my attention on the remaining girls. There was several strong candidates but the prettiest was a girl with light brown hair who was sat with her back to me. She kept leaning around the corner and smiling sweetly, so I figured that she would be the perfect antidote to my bad experience last night. I informed the papasan of my choice (number 12) and paid 2500 at the cashiers desk. When the girl came to stand next to me my jaw almost hit the floor. She was prettier up close and had big tits, perfect for my soapy needs. Although she wore high-heels, she was below my shoulder level."My name Pum" she said before taking my hand and leading me to the elevator.
The room was excellent. Half was dominated by a big double bed and the other half had a large bath and a tiled area where there was an inflatable mattress propped up against the wall. There was a large flatscreen TV at the end of the bed but as often seems to be the case in soapies, the only thing it showed was a snowstorm. Pum put some music on her phone and asked me to lie on the bed, where she proceeded to give me an excellent oil massage. It lasted for ten minutes and I assumed it meant I wouldn't be getting a soapy massage but I was wrong. She led me to the bath and carefully lathered and rinsed me as I admired her tits. They were fake but her nipples were begging to be sucked. I guessed she was mid-twenties due to her flawless complexion but was amazed when she told me that she was 34.
As always the soapy massage was ten minutes of intense pleasure. You can't beat having a gorgeous girl slipping and sliding her soapy body all over yours. She had a few neat tricks, including placing her feet either side of my dick and giving me a foot-wank, something I'd never experienced before. When she finished I offered to give her a soapy massage, which made her laugh. I instructed her to lie on her front but it's not as easy as it looks. I slid up and down a few times but lost grip and slid off the mattress on to the floor. I was lucky I didn't get another soapy-related injury!
Sadly the sex was a big let-down. She wouldn't kiss and said rather coldly "condom, blowjob" when we got on the bed. The blow-job only lasted 30 seconds before she sat up, lifted one leg across me and lowered herself on. She rode me as I fondled her big tits but when I leaned up to try and suck her nipples, she pulled away, smiling. When I tried to kiss her on the neck she did exactly the same. Although we were fucking she was determined to prohibit any form of intimacy at all! Even worse, when I was fucking her in mish she held her fist in front of her pussy so I couldn't go all the way in. I know some girls worry their pussy might get stretched by falang but this was ridiculous, I was probably just a few inches in. Thankfully things picked up. I fucked her from behind while holding her dangling tits and then she rode me to a climax. Within seconds of finishing she said "okay, shower". She was obviously keen to get back in to the fishbowl as quickly as possible.
As we showered and then got changed, I tried making conversation but her answers were rather cold. She was a different girl to the smily one I had seen in the fishbowl. Unsurprisingly she refused to pose for photos. I decided to tip her because although she was mechanical and refused to kiss, she gave me a great soapy, a bonus oil massage and didn't refuse any of the sex positions I wanted to try. I felt 300 baht was fair but she pointed at the notes in my wallet and said "1000 baht". I've never tipped a girl that much in my life, even the creme de le creme who deliver the girlfriend experience, so I stuck to my guns and handed her three hundred baht notes."1000" she said again, with a smile and a flutter of her eye-lashes. She was an actress who could turn on the charm at will."1000 not a lot of money" she said but I put my wallet away and her cool demeanour returned once again.
She was a fabulous looking girl with a sensational figure but she was a candidate for the most commercial and mechanical girl I've ever been with in Asia. On the bright side she was a 'trophy fuck' and I'd remember those breasts for a long time.
The night before Macca told me that a few days ago he was having his hair cut when he noticed a sign for 'ear clean'. He gave it a go and to quote him "it was the best 80 baht I've ever spent!" I decided to try it myself. It was the 2nd barber on the left down Soi 25, the street next to Oasis agogo. An old woman instructed me to lean back on a reclining seat and ominously placed a towel over my eyes. Then followed 20 minutes akin to medieval torture as she poked sharp implements in my ears. Whenever I winced the old lady laughed like an evil villain.
It was 7:45pm and time for a quickie on Soi 6 before dinner. As always I went on a recee from the top of the street down to the bottom, scouring the talent. Sometimes it can be hit and miss but on this occasion I was impressed and spotted four strong candidates. Thai Rose at the top of the street always has some pretty girls outside and I saw a cutie with braces on her teeth outside Red Point Bar. The best looker was a young specimen with long curly hair outside SMOKE AND KISSES. She had pale skin and looked as though she had Chinese or Japanese blood. She was sat on a stool outside and seemed surprised when I approached, giving me a shy smile. I didn't need to say a word, she stood up and led me through a curtain in to the bar. There was no-one else in there and we sat down in the corner with our drinks. She was exceptionally cute and she told me that her name was Lily and she was just 18 years old. She was one of those Soi 6 gems that could easily work at any of the gogo bars. Although she looked very sweet, she kissed me on the lips as she caressed my dick in to life. How could I resist? The room charge is 300 baht and her price was 1000. The days of good lookers charging 700 baht on Soi 6 have gone.
The room was fairly typical of Soi 6. It had a large double bed with a mirror alongside it, overlooked by an old aircon unit. Apart from a chair and a few coat-hooks that was about it. There was a small, basic bathroom where we both showered. She seemed quite shy and timid so I expected her to be a starfish but she surprised me. We lay next to each other on the bed and she was a great kisser, expertly using her tongue and sucking my lips suggestively. She leaned down and gave me a nice, slurpy blowjob that belied her tender years.
The sex was excellent too. When she was on her back, ankles on my shoulders, I pulled my dick out of her pussy and teased her asshole with it. She didn't resist and played with herself and squeezed her small tits as I pushed in to her. She was extraordinarily tight. I pushed harder and then suddenly my dick slid in to her and she groaned. At first I grinded slowly in to her but a few minutes later I was pounding her ass as quickly as I could, the bed creaking with each thrust. She rode me reverse cowgirl and then I pulled her back so that she was lying on top of me and her head was next to mine. I grabbed her hips and thrust up into her as deep as I could as she arched her back and kissed me over her shoulder. It was hot and sweaty, fast and frantic sex. I shot my load and then we lay next to each other on the bed for ten minutes, cooling down under the aircon. She kissed me and somewhat forwardly whispered "I love you".
We showered, got changed and she happily posed for photos. I took her phone number and gave her a 300 baht tip which she was delighted with. She deserved it and I left happy because finally I'd had a great session with a great girl.
As I walked down Soi 6 towards Beach Road, an old woman grabbed my arm outside the last bar on the right and gestured at two average girls sat on stools."Two girl. 500 baht" she said. One looked about 40 but the other was in her twenties and was smiling in my direction. They weren't beauty queens (a 2/10 and a 5/10 respectively) but you can't argue with that price for a threesome! Perhaps if I was drunk and desperate I might have considered it but they had caught me at the wrong time. I'd just been with a girl and needed to eat. I ate at Subway and pondered the night ahead. I'd be flying solo because Macca wanted to watch a rugby match on TV. I knew tomorrow we'd be going on a gogo crawl around Soi LK Metro so I decided to take it easy and have a relaxed night. I didn't feel any pressure to meet a girl because I'd already fucked two girls in the day.
I went to Kannika beer-bar on 2nd Road to meet Poum, the girl I'd spotted a few days ago who I bar-fined on my cherry trip to Pattaya. There were six average girls at the bar and two older customers. Poum was sat at the front corner of the bar so I sat opposite her and ordered a drink. There was hint of regonition in her eyes but I could tell that she couldn't remember me. When I told her we had met her five years earlier she said "sorry, I not remember". I didn't expect her to as she must have met thousands of customers at the bar since. I bought her a drink and enjoyed her company. She was now 35 but still had the same radiant smile. She spoke excellent English, largely due to the fact that she married an English man when she was 20 and lived in England for a year before they broke up. She must have been a sensational looker back then. We had a game of Jenga for old times sake and just like five years earlier, she was unbeatable. If there was a Jenga world championship, a Thai bar-girl would win every year.
Where next? I decided to meet up with Macca to watch the rugby. On my way I spotted Sar perched on a stool at DAOKAI Bar again. She was sat on her own and looked as miserable as the night before. Despite what had happened last night I considered offering her a drink as a gesture of goodwill but she seemed unpredictable and I'd probably get it thrown back in my face. I gave her a wide berth and walked through the rest of the beer-bars. It was 10. 30pm and I saw a few sweet girls but none that persuaded me to stop for a drink. I turned on to Soi Buakhao and dodged the ladyboys outside Pook Bar. The cutie with braces on her teeth at Jony Bar again smiled to me again as I walked past.
I was starting to like the Soi Buakhao area. It's very popular with ex-pats, Europeans and Aussies and there are lots of western style pubs, sports bars and places to eat. In future trips I may base myself there. I like the atmosphere of the place and it's cheaper too. Macca was paying 400 baht a night less for his hotel than I was which is the cost of two or three lady-drinks! Although I like Lek Hotel, I pay extra for a pool I never use and on this trip particularly I feel the odd one out. The place is very popular with Russian's and, I have to say, they are a charmless bunch. Has anyone ever seen a Russian man smile? I held a door open for one yesterday, a body-builder type with hair like Michael Bolton, and he didn't acknowledge me. Then I shared a lift with two more, both wearing Singha vests and also with mullets, who conversed in a series of monosyllabic grunts.
Macca was sat on his own at WITHERSPOONS, absorbed in the rugby. I pulled up a stool and ordered a draft beer for 75 baht. The waitress wore glasses and was good fun. She pretended to understand the rules of rugby but I suspect that she was getting mixed up with football. Macca told me that Witherspoons "has the best looking girl in Pattaya" and sure enough when I saw her collecting empty glasses she was an absolute peach. She wasn't wearing make-up but she had a truly beautiful face. Macca told me that he had enquired about her availability to the manager but had been told that she was out-of-bounds. Macca figured this meant she was under-age but I thought she looked late teens so was probably just a 'good girl' looking to make an honest living as a waitress.
After the rugby I was keen to hear Macca's opinion on how I had handled the Sar situation the night before. I told him the full story and he agreed that I was within my rights to ask for the bar-fine back."She probably didn't want you to go back to the bar with her otherwise she'd lose face" he suggested. He also said he respected me for not fucking her when she obviously didn't want to.
Macca had been drinking all evening so decided to go to bed. When he left an older Thai woman walked up to me who was a 1/10."Where you from?" she asked and when I told her she started talking to me about English football. To be fair, she knew her stuff. She invited me to sit with her and her 2/10 friend but I declined. Perhaps they were freelancers hoping to snare a drunken sports fan on the full-time whistle? Probably not a bad tactic actually, it's not difficult to imagine a scenario when a drunken guy wants to fuck to forget a bad defeat or celebrate a good win!
The time was 1.45am so I decided to call it a night. I'd had several beers and felt happily buzzed. I had already taken two girls today so didn't feel any pressure to add a third.
However, I didn't take the shortest route back to my hotel. I walked along Soi Buakhao, hoping to see the cute girl with braces at Jony Bar, but she wasn't there. I then cut through the Night Bazaar beer-bars. I was hoping to chance upon a 9 or 10/10 to make me change my mind about not taking a girl but I didn't see any. On 2nd Road I turned left and as I passed Kannika Poum gave me a friendly wave.
Sir Lancelot,
I have been following your reports for a long time and undoubtedly you could consider being an author as a future career option (perhaps you already are, judging by the fine quality of reports!). Keep up the good work.
I'm still making my foray in the mongering world by making a newbie trip to Bangkok in July. Since it's going to be my 1st trip any tips, suggestions would be welcome. In your opinion, would Pattaya be better than Bangkok? Please comment.
Pattaya, Day 14, Sunday.
Urgh, what a terrible end to last night. The lessen learnt is that you should always trust your instincts when picking a girl. If you think she's bad news or is going to be a bad performer, you are probably right. Find another girl, there are plenty to choose from. Although my time in Pattaya wasn't going to planned so far, there was no point dwelling on it. Today I set myself the goal of fucking two girls mimimum, perhaps even three. That would definitely set me back on the right track. I'd have a soapy in the afternoon, a quickie on soi 6 early evening and then see where the night took me.
After a leisurely afternoon it was time for a soapy massage. I decided to go to Honey, located just a short walk from my hotel on Soi 11. I arrived at 4. 30pm but the place looked closed for renovations. Just as I was contemplating looking elsewhere, a Thai man pointed down the side of the building. It was a different entrance to last year and I thought it was comical to see an ATM in the doorway...
Sir Lancelot
04-21-14, 17:24
=============================================
Greetings Everyone,
Last month we migrated the forum to a new, more powerful server.
The latest version of PHP on the new server included several subtle changes that were not compatible with our programming code.
These differences were so subtle that it took several days for the anomalies to be identified. Once we identified that we had a code compatibility issue, my programmer and my server administrator worked diligently for several days to comb through all of the forum's code searching for and modifying our code to work with the new version of PHP.
One anomaly was that a small number of posts were "eaten" by the system. We believe it was limited to posts containing a very specific, very little used character that we believe was either a hyphen or a semicolon. We're not exactly sure because our subsequent code modifications fixed the problem, thus preventing any additional examples of the anomaly.
Any member whose post content was inadvertently not published is welcome to re-post their original content.
Thanks,
Jackson
Wolvenvacht
04-21-14, 19:49
I'm still making my foray in the mongering world by making a newbie trip to Bangkok in July. Since it's going to be my 1st trip any tips, suggestions would be welcome. In your opinion, would Pattaya be better than Bangkok? Please comment."Better" is very subjective. We all have our own ideas of "better". I like Bangkok more than Pattaya as there are much more other things to see and do in Bangkok than in Pattaya. But I had great fun in Pattaya on my first trip there too. Actually I rented a studio in Jomtien (which is a suburb of Pattaya, less busy with a better beach, but still only a short hop on a songthaew away from Pattaya) and although I visited the Walking Street agogo clubs, walked Beach Road and crawled Soi 6 up and down a few times, I finally pulled my companions from a beerbar in Jomtien ("Country Road III" if I remember well). Perhaps it was the abundance of the sex on offer in Pattaya that made it less attractive? Pattaya is really made for quick consumption, ST is the norm and I am more of an LT-man. Jomtien is more laid back, there is less hustle.
Sir Lancelot
04-21-14, 21:21
Sir Lancelot, I have been following your reports for a long time and undoubtedly you could consider being an author as a future career option (perhaps you already are, judging by the fine quality of reports!). Keep up the good work.
I'm still making my foray in the mongering world by making a newbie trip to Bangkok in July. Since it's going to be my 1st trip any tips, suggestions would be welcome. In your opinion, would Pattaya be better than Bangkok? Please comment.Thanks, I'm really glad you enjoy my diaries. I'm still waiting for a publisher to help fund my extravagant lifestyle!
The short answer to your question is that I'd recommend both. Bangkok and Pattaya are just two hours away by road so you could easily split your trip between the two. I'm assuming you'll be flying in to Bangkok, so spend at least three days there. Stay in the Nana area and spend at least one night visiting the gogo bars in Nana Plaza (Rainbow 4 and Mandarin are my favourites) and one night visiting the gogo bars on Soi Cowboy (Shark and Baccara are the best here in my opinion). During the day you might like to go to a massage parlour. If so Nataree has the largest amount of young, pretty girls but Mango and Annie's always get good reviews on this forum too. I talked at length about these places in my diary on the Bangkok pages about two weeks ago. Bangkok is great for regular tourists too so if it's your first trip to Thailand you might like to consider the floating markets, the Grand Palace, w a t Po, w a t Arun* and Ayutthaya.
To get to Pattaya you can either take a taxi for about 1200 baht or a bus from Ekkamai (just a few stops on the skytrain from Nana). I'd recommend staying in the Soi Buakhao area. Like Bangkok it has lots of gogo bars and massage parlours but where it stands apart are the sheer abundance of beer-bars. Here you can pick up nice girls for much cheaper. Walking Street is a must-see for a first-timer. You'll read a lot of people on this forum, usually older ex-pats who actually live in Pattaya, dismiss Walking Street because it's expensive but in my opinion they miss the point. A newcomer will have the time of his life here (far more enjoyable than trawling the bargain basements of Beach Road!). Of course there are better value girls to be found elsewhere but WS is exciting, it's loud, it's colourful and there are pretty girls everywhere you look. The gogo bars Sensations, Happy, Beach and Airport are my favourites, although I recommend getting a beer at the bar outside Alcatraz and watching the world go by. It's probably the best people-watching spot on the planet! Walking Street also has various nightclubs where off-duty gogo girls and massage girls can be procured for a hefty discount. The Soi LK Metro area is also very popular for gogo bars, which I wrote about in my last post. Pattaya is fantastic for soapy massages (Honey 1, Honey 2 and Sabai Dee are the places to go) and if you're feeling adventurous Devil's Den is where you can pick up a threesome (Eden's in Bangkok also offers this service but the girls aren't as nice). On the down side, Pattaya does not have a lot to do for the regular tourist. It has a beach but it's very busy. Far nicer beaches can be found elsewhere in Thailand, especially Krabi.
* it is spelt w a t (all one word) but this forum always auto-corrects to 'what'!
Lance, your reports are the best! Thanks for the photos, too.
Pattaya, Day 14, Sunday.
Sadly the sex was a big let-down. She wouldn't kiss and said rather coldly "condom, blowjob" when we got on the bed. The blow-job only lasted 30 seconds before she sat up, lifted one leg across me and lowered herself on. She rode me as I fondled her big tits but when I leaned up to try and suck her nipples, she pulled away, smiling. When I tried to kiss her on the neck she did exactly the same. Although we were fucking she was determined to prohibit any form of intimacy at all! Even worse, when I was fucking her in mish she held her fist in front of her pussy so I couldn't go all the way in. I know some girls worry their pussy might get stretched by falang but this was ridiculous, I was probably just a few inches in. Thankfully things picked up. I fucked her from behind while holding her dangling tits and then she rode me to a climax. Within seconds of finishing she said "okay, shower". She was obviously keen to get back in to the fishbowl as quickly as possible.While I enjoy your well written reports like anybody else here I am surprised that you state:
Far more enjoyable than trawling the bargain basements of Beach Road.
I go there on a regular basis but the scene that you describe so well above with the massage girl has never happened to me with BG's. Never mind that for the money you spent on that girl I could have 1/2 dozen of them at the same time one after another. One difference for me is that I can interact / interview them before booking. That's why I seldomly pick from fishbowls. Thank you for the pointers to lk metro gogo's I will visit them.
Walking Street is a must-see for a first-timer. You'll read a lot of people on this forum, usually older ex-pats who actually live in Pattaya, dismiss Walking Street because it's expensive but in my opinion they miss the point. A newcomer will have the time of his life here (far more enjoyable than trawling the bargain basements of Beach Road!). Of course there are better value girls to be found elsewhere but WS is exciting, it's loud, it's colourful and there are pretty girls everywhere you look. The gogo bars Sensations, Happy, Beach and Airport are my favourites, although I recommend getting a beer at the bar outside Alcatraz and watching the world go by. It's probably the best people-watching spot on the planet! Walking Street also has various nightclubs where off-duty gogo girls and massage girls can be procured for a hefty discount. The Soi LK Metro area is also very popular for gogo bars, which I wrote about in my last post. Pattaya is fantastic for soapy massages (Honey 1, Honey 2 and Sabai Dee are the places to go) and if you're feeling adventurous Devil's Den is where you can pick up a threesome (Eden's in Bangkok also offers this service but the girls aren't as nice). On the down side, Pattaya does not have a lot to do for the regular tourist. It has a beach but it's very busy. Far nicer beaches can be found elsewhere in Thailand, especially Krabi.Thank you! I just came back from Thailand (Bangkok and Pattaya) for the first time and I must agree with you 1000% I read many reports saying to avoid Walking Street. I am so glad I didn't. I started with gogos in Bangkok so I did the same in Pattaya. Until I discovered the clubs on Walking Street and never looked back. I was getting LT for 2000 Baht. After negotiating down for 3000 Baht. They didn't blink an eye in agreeing which means next time I will go down even further. That's about $60. The cheapest I ever got for LT anywhere in the world (mostly mongering in South America) so I wasn't complaining. I still haven't really explored the Beach Road scene yet, but I will have to. I went to Sabai Dee. Great experience but a bit on the expensive side. Plus I saw how they jack up prices for some foreigners (like some Indians). I'm Asian (American) so they charged me 500 less.
I will be back. Even if it is a 20+ hour flight for me!
Sir Lancelot
04-22-14, 19:15
While I enjoy your well written reports like anybody else here I am surprised that you state:
Far more enjoyable than trawling the bargain basements of Beach Road.I should expand on what I meant. I'm not doubting the value of Beach Road or the fact the girls will deliver better sex. In fact in my diary I've stated that gems can be found and I've also written somewhere else that if I was an ex-pat for example, I'd be a regular.
But what people often overlook it seems is the 'thrill of the chase'. On Beach Road you walk along, chat to a few girls and then take your favourite back to your hotel and fuck her. That's it, night over. It's all about the sex. But when you're on holiday, especially if it's your first time, you want to party. Any first-timer will be like a kid in a candy shop on Walking Steet, people-watching, seeing the bright lights, visiting lots of bars, drinking cheap (ish) beer, admiring hundreds of beautiful semi-naked girls before picking a young hottie to fuck. Yes it's expensive and of course better value can be found elsewhere but it's exciting. I still get a buzz out of it, even now. That thrill just isn't replicated anywhere else in Pattaya.
TodayTomorrow
04-22-14, 21:34
First of all, thanks for the great recent reports (especially to SirLancelot). Great reading and updates for me, as I'm headed to Patts for the second time in the beginning of May.
Having tried most massage-categories that Patts has to offer (Soapy, Oil-massage etc.) , I'm missing the tantra-massage. And haven't been able to google any place in Pattaya that is boasting of that service. Or even mentions it. As a keen reader of the Patts-threads here in ISG (and another forum) I have noticed that tantra (or anything closely like it) is hardly ever mentioned. I'm European. And perphaps it's just a thing where I live, that massages can be "tantra"-massages too. However. If anyone in here should know of a place in Patts where you can get that kind of service (not neccesarily called tantra. But also "tantra-like") , I would highly appreciate a hint.
Note: To avoid any discussion about what tantra is. Here is what I mean. : A massage that mainly consists of erotic stimulation and caressing (all over the body) instead of a massage that mainly / partly is focusing on relieving tension of muscles.
Hope for reply.
Sir Lancelot
04-23-14, 00:23
=============================================
Greetings Everyone,
Last month we migrated the forum to a new, more powerful server.
The latest version of PHP on the new server included several subtle changes that were not compatible with our programming code.
These differences were so subtle that it took several days for the anomalies to be identified. Once we identified that we had a code compatibility issue, my programmer and my server administrator worked diligently for several days to comb through all of the forum's code searching for and modifying our code to work with the new version of PHP.
One anomaly was that a small number of posts were "eaten" by the system. We believe it was limited to posts containing a very specific, very little used character that we believe was either a hyphen or a semicolon. We're not exactly sure because our subsequent code modifications fixed the problem, thus preventing any additional examples of the anomaly.
Any member whose post content was inadvertently not published is welcome to re-post their original content.
Thanks,
Jackson
Thanks a lot for the valuable inputs, appreciate the valuable pointers! Since its my first visit, I would also like to do the tourist bit. Hope the monsoon in the months of June. July does not play a spoilsport.
Kinguncle
Thanks, I'm really glad you enjoy my diaries. I'm still waiting for a publisher to help fund my extravagant lifestyle!
The short answer to your question is that I'd recommend both. Bangkok and Pattaya are just two hours away by road so you could easily split your trip between the two. I'm assuming you'll be flying in to Bangkok, so spend at least three days there. Stay in the Nana area and spend at least one night visiting the gogo bars in Nana Plaza (Rainbow 4 and Mandarin are my favourites) and one night visiting the gogo bars on Soi Cowboy (Shark and Baccara are the best here in my opinion). During the day you might like to go to a massage parlour. If so Nataree has the largest amount of young, pretty girls but Mango and Annie's always get good reviews on this forum too. I talked at length about these places in my diary on the Bangkok pages about two weeks ago. Bangkok is great for regular tourists too so if it's your first trip to Thailand you might like to consider the floating markets, the Grand Palace, w a t Po, w a t Arun* and Ayutthaya.
To get to Pattaya you can either take a taxi for about 1200 baht or a bus from Ekkamai (just a few stops on the skytrain from Nana)...
Great reports. Most times reports with individual girls' names aren't too helpful as the girls move on after a year or so. But in this case I am heading out to Pattaya in a few days, and may well follow up with some of your recommendations. Many thanks!
Sir Lancelot
04-24-14, 01:43
=============================================
Greetings Everyone,
Last month we migrated the forum to a new, more powerful server.
The latest version of PHP on the new server included several subtle changes that were not compatible with our programming code.
These differences were so subtle that it took several days for the anomalies to be identified. Once we identified that we had a code compatibility issue, my programmer and my server administrator worked diligently for several days to comb through all of the forum's code searching for and modifying our code to work with the new version of PHP.
One anomaly was that a small number of posts were "eaten" by the system. We believe it was limited to posts containing a very specific, very little used character that we believe was either a hyphen or a semicolon. We're not exactly sure because our subsequent code modifications fixed the problem, thus preventing any additional examples of the anomaly.
Any member whose post content was inadvertently not published is welcome to re-post their original content.
Thanks,
Jackson
Ira Johnson
04-24-14, 05:33
Keep the stories coming! I'll be there in about 5 days!
I like Soi 6 for the fact that you can always find a girl there that takes your fancy. But it does tend to close up fairly early compared with other areas. In fact I think it is not worth visiting after about 12pm as all the best girls will either have made their money for the day, are off with a customer, or are too drunk to stand.
Pro Fesseur
04-24-14, 16:41
One take-away from our inaugural threesome is that even if the girl is P4P, she wants the girl to be into it, to enjoy being with a guy and a girl.
@Ira Johnson: While in Pattaya, you should try the Devil's Den with your girlfriend. Their girls are (allegedly) "genuinely bisexual".
http://www.devilsdenpattaya.com/In-Call.php
You may find better value for your money elsewhere, but it's probably the easiest way to get what you are looking for in Pattaya.
Sir Lance,
I am really enjoying your posts. I am new to this forum. I will be there on Saturday (6th Trip) would be a pleasure meeting you if you are there and up for it.
Soi6 is dead after 2 generally so the better plan for you was to head to WS (Insomnia or Ibar) to find a girl. Even if you not into that scene, the chances of a better night would have been more.
Cheers!
Sir Lancelot
04-24-14, 20:21
=============================================
Greetings Everyone,
Last month we migrated the forum to a new, more powerful server.
The latest version of PHP on the new server included several subtle changes that were not compatible with our programming code.
These differences were so subtle that it took several days for the anomalies to be identified. Once we identified that we had a code compatibility issue, my programmer and my server administrator worked diligently for several days to comb through all of the forum's code searching for and modifying our code to work with the new version of PHP.
One anomaly was that a small number of posts were "eaten" by the system. We believe it was limited to posts containing a very specific, very little used character that we believe was either a hyphen or a semicolon. We're not exactly sure because our subsequent code modifications fixed the problem, thus preventing any additional examples of the anomaly.
Any member whose post content was inadvertently not published is welcome to re-post their original content.
Thanks,
Jackson
I know there's disco type pick up joints in Bangkok where you can find takeout late at night without a barfine. Are there any type of places like that in Pattaya?
atIra Johnson: While in Pattaya, you should try the Devil's Den with your girlfriend. Their girls are (allegedly)"genuinely bisexual".
http://www.devilsdenpattaya.com/In-Call.php
You may find better value for your money elsewhere, but it's probably the easiest way to get what you are looking for in Pattaya.Nice call Pro Fesseur. There is always the out-call option where you can take one lady at a time. I believe the Devils Den updates this link more frequently:
http://devilsdenthailand.com
I will be in Pattaya next month and plan to visit DD again. Does anyone have any recent intel? Is Gik still around? She took some time off last year then came back for a while, but now her profile is off the website again.
SL
Mr Enternational
04-25-14, 04:21
I know there's disco type pick up joints in Bangkok where you can find takeout late at night without a barfine. Are there any type of places like that in Pattaya?About 20 of them depending on what type of music you like.
Pahllus Maximus
04-25-14, 04:41
I had a similar service in BKK, relaxing BBJCIM and glass of chilled pinot, arrive relaxed and happy, girl and driver waving me off. What they need is this service on the plane, not some crappy HJ from a grudging stewardess (and only in first class, and then hit and miss and usually a $200 tip).
I did pull on Cathay one, hottie.
But 18k baht seems ridiculous
Pahllus Maximus
04-25-14, 05:02
Sir Lancelot.
Well written and informative reports. After all, our sexual enjoyment is a vital part of the joy of life, and years in the future you will enjoy reading back on those adventures. Mind you, I see plenty of grey haired seniors who look most happy in LOS, something Western women either don't get or are too lazy to satisfy, or have lost the art of feminine wiles. But please, keep us posted, and sorry to hear of UK sex prison.
It seems at the current forex rate US31-THB1000 that mind blowing sessions are comfortably in the $US50-100 range and seems to have stabilized. Bee sounds great, and must try her.
You have a natural flair of capturing imagination of the reader, honestly, you should write a book on your escapades.
Ciao!
, not some crappy HJ from a grudging stewardess (and only in first class, and then hit and miss and usually a $200 tip).How long before a class manager will ask which airline?
Sir Lancelot
04-25-14, 19:22
=============================================
Greetings Everyone,
Last month we migrated the forum to a new, more powerful server.
The latest version of PHP on the new server included several subtle changes that were not compatible with our programming code.
These differences were so subtle that it took several days for the anomalies to be identified. Once we identified that we had a code compatibility issue, my programmer and my server administrator worked diligently for several days to comb through all of the forum's code searching for and modifying our code to work with the new version of PHP.
One anomaly was that a small number of posts were "eaten" by the system. We believe it was limited to posts containing a very specific, very little used character that we believe was either a hyphen or a semicolon. We're not exactly sure because our subsequent code modifications fixed the problem, thus preventing any additional examples of the anomaly.
Any member whose post content was inadvertently not published is welcome to re-post their original content.
Thanks,
Jackson
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.1.4 Copyright © 2025 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.