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DogFace69
11-26-08, 18:50
...One that I like is Silver Star 2 on Soi 7.I agree. I was there recently and it was a blast. The girls are fun, and pretty much anything goes. I barfined Oi and had a great time.

Monopoly
11-27-08, 07:27
Hey guys,

It got a little better last night. I BF an 18 y/o cutie from a go-go off W.S. and she was very good.

But I want to know if I paid "over the top" or not. I don't want to ruin the market for others.

She asked for and got 2000B for LT. We were together maybe 12 hours.

Should I have asked for 1500 LT?

Thanks for any advice.

Betong
11-27-08, 18:02
Should I have asked for 1500 LT?Nah. Not even worth worrying about.

Daddy07
11-27-08, 18:28
...Should I have asked for 1500 LT?

Thanks for any advice.
2000 is the right price for a go-go girl LT.

Many of them will ask for more.

Glad you had a good time.

Regards,
Daddy

The Departed
11-27-08, 20:18
Just a quick note to say that closing the airport has been a godsend. Pussy prices have tanked and bareback is an option for those of you into it. Rents have to be paid as the end of the month arrives. Good work, protesters.

Jayleesf
11-28-08, 00:26
2000 is the right price for a go-go girl LT.

Many of them will ask for more.

Glad you had a good time.

Regards,

DaddyWhen I was in Angel Witch this past summer, all the girls would quote 3000 LT and would not budge. Are prices different at various go-go's?

Dan7373
11-28-08, 03:25
....
But there is no denying that the vibe in these clubs is totally mercenary, mechanical and materialistic. If that is your thing then do it. They sound coached to ask for the Tip Tip. The girls are not very friendly and their so-called "performance" SUCKS. Yes you can find this phenomenon in other go gos, but here it seems to have been elevated to a kind of religion. I was so disappointed that I could barf.

SO I never went back and I am not really interested in going back. Sure there are plenty of cute Girls here but you can have them.

I see so many guys acting the fool in gogos. When you swim with the sharks you might get eaten. Be forewarned.

Your description sounds as if this was your fist time in Pattaya and perhaps your fist time in Thailand too. It sounds to me like this because I've had some similar misadventures in Pattaya when I went there for the first time in my life years ago.

But I went back to Pattaya again despite some of my fist-time disappointments. And my subsequent experiences with the ladies got better, because I've learned to choose my ladies more carefully and more wisely.

One lesson I've learned was that the best-looking and the most-popular lady at the Go-Go bar is not necessarily the best one to go with. Because she gets so much attention from men that quite often she doesn't value them. She can always get another man.

The only exception to this rule might be at the beer-bars. Some good-looking ladies from Isaan sometimes come to Pattaya in search of a good man that they hope to marry. And they usually end up working at the beer bars from a few weeks to a few years, until they do find their man. I don't know what their success rate is. But it probably depends on how attractive they are. And some of them do find their men. Because I've met some of these married men, when I've spent some time in Isaan.

But you also need to consider cultural differences and possible cultural misunderstandings that can happen. Some of what you've described is considered normal among Thais. Although you didn't see it as normal behavior.

Such as when you took the good-looking lady to Alcazar, where she worked before and where she had a lot of friends. You were the rich guy, as far as they were all concerned. Because only a rich guy takes out a good-looking lady the way you did. And the fact that you went with her to visit her friends naturally meant to them that you wanted to treat them all in celebration of your good friendship with the lady.

You didn't see it that way, of course. But due to cultural differences, your lady probably couldn't understand what went wrong between you and her. And that's why she kept calling you.

When you go to another country and meet people from another culture. Then you've got to expect big differences from what you are used to. And you have to be careful not to misunderstand cultural differences as bad experiences. Because when it's a misunderstanding only, then it might mean that the good-looking lady really does like you. But she doesn't understand that you don't understand.

Ozirob
11-28-08, 03:55
But she doesn't understand that you don't understand.

Every now and then something is said that prompts me to reflect on things that have happened to me in Thailand. And in Thailand this is so so so true.

I have a regular friend in Bangkok, for several years now. Early on we would get into this spiral (i would call it a death spiral) of an argument over - nothing! I'd be sitting there trying to work out just what was she on about! Soon enough i realised that quite often it was just misunderstanding each other. It was all about either me not understanding what she was on about, or she didn't understand what i was on about. (the death spiral argument is when both have no idea) We could even be fighting about two totally unrelated things !!!!!!

So i came up with this system where at some point either one of us would say "Hold on. Be careful. I think this is misunderstand." We don't even say who is misunderstand. But this statement is clearly understood by her (and me) to mean something is not right.

Then we both stop, take a deep breath, and try and make sure we are on the right track. Generally the stop and breath part is enough to stop the spiral.

Still argue from time to time but generally not terminal arguments.

Ozirob

Poonhound69
11-29-08, 07:55
D7:

Beavercleaver must be joking. He's just getting people's wind up. Probably an alter-ego of someone else on here.

I think the posts are funny, but they do get repetitive. Skip em but dont waste any figurative breath. You'd be fighting a scarecrow.

PH



Gee... sorry about all your frustrating problems with the cuties.

Hope you don't mind if I ask you a couple of personal questions ...

Do you have a tattoo on your forehead?

Does it say: "loser"?

Daddy07
11-29-08, 08:16
...I think the posts are funny, ...PH
I think his posts are funny too.

It is apparent to me that this guy loves to have young pretty girls dominate and humiliate him. He gets off on it.

We all have our own harmless fetishes. He'll have no trouble satisfying his in Pattaya. More power to him.

Dan7373
11-30-08, 03:47
Have you ever been to the Hell Club Opebo? Probably not as they insist upon safe sex. I went there twice, one for a 3some and once for a 4some....

I was just wondering how does it work in terms of safe sex at The Hell Club? Do you basically have to stay dirty with one lady until you pop. They change condoms on you. And it's the next lady's turn to play dirty with you?

I keep fantasizing about going to a private room with two or three young ladies at The Hell Club. The lights go out. And all hell breaks loose in terms of the dirty stuff.

But I'm wondering whether the darkness would be too scary for the ladies. And it might be a problem in terms of making sure that our dirty play is safe.

Perhaps I'll have to bring a flashlight for the ladies to play with. Then it wouldn't be such a hellish experience for all of us.

Flood800
11-30-08, 04:24
Has anyone been to the Buffalo Bar on the Third Road lately? Try to search on this thread got no result. Grateful for any information, or reports.

Thanks

Mangofan
11-30-08, 08:48
Has anyone been to the Buffalo Bar on the Third Road lately? Try to search on this thread got no result. Grateful for any information, or reports.

Thanks


Been there a few times but not for a few months. Good bar. The girl behind the counter (the cashier) is the one I'm in love with there -- great tits but she doesn't go with customers I think. Met a girl there, Ta - got her phone number but never called. Probably one of the hottest girls in the place.

Anyway, barfines for dancers are 600 baht I think, and you can do them upstairs for 1500 baht. If you want to take them out I believe it's even more.

M P Lurker
11-30-08, 10:02
Has anyone been to the Buffalo Bar on the Third Road lately? Try to search on this thread got no result. Grateful for any information, or reports.

Thanks
Try search for:
buffalo
A few posts come up.

Hummer Bird
11-30-08, 20:23
when i was in angel witch this past summer, all the girls would quote 3000 lt and would not budge. are prices different at various go-go's?

i splurged on several girls from the rainbow 4 this summer, and both quoted me 4000 plus barfine for lt. i am not an ugly, so i guess this is the first asking price. i did bargain each down to 3000 for lt plus bar fine. kind of a lot for my budget, but i had just arrived and was ready to do some serious spear fishing.

i should note that i only asked the three that were "stunners/model" to me.
i would not recommend bb other than bbbj with these girls, as they are getting a lot of dick. good service, and cool girls with multiple pops had.

by the way anybody wonder how these little girls can take such large dicks and in such large quantities w/o even a peep of true complaining. my ex always bitched when i slammed her hard and she was a much larger lady. i often have us girls put their hand on my tummy so as to stop me from penetrating too deeply, but the thai girls do not put these kind of restrictions!!!!! they also do not freak out as much on getting their ass banged!
cheers
hb

DG69
11-30-08, 20:47
iby the way anybody wonder how these little girls can take such large dicks and in such large quantities w/o even a peep of true complaining. my ex always bitched when i slammed her hard and she was a much larger lady. i often have us girls put their hand on my tummy so as to stop me from penetrating too deeply, but the thai girls do not put these kind of restrictions!!!!! they also do not freak out as much on getting their ass banged!
cheers
hb

rainbow 4 is in bangkok, so it's the wrong thread, but anyway, it's true that thai girls are much less difficult when it comes to sex. i think they have just a totally different attitude about their body. touching of somebodies body is as it seems quite normal. everywhere you can find massage saloons. most likely thais are just used to use or share their body and private sphere with others. also, t's amazing how many men make an operation to become women. well, it's a totally different culture, but that is what most people amaze about thailand.

BionicMan
11-30-08, 21:46
....When you go to another country and meet people from another culture. Then you've got to expect big differences from what you are used to. And you have to be careful not to misunderstand cultural differences as bad experiences. Because when it's a misunderstanding only, then it might mean that the good-looking lady really does like you. But she doesn't understand that you don't understand.perfect words!
Not for nothing a famous bank corporation bases all its advertising campaigns in cultural differences where the same thing has opposite meanings.

Gbmia
12-01-08, 15:01
Hi guys,

I am making a movie with a cute girl called Mia on new years eve.

It will be a nasty gangbang and party, and I am looking for guys to join in.

It will be totally free and I serve as much beer and drinks as you can take. It's up to you if you want to show your face or not.

Mia is a cute and crazy escort girl who agree to most anything.

You can read more about it here:

http://perfect-mia.escortsite.com/gangbang.phtml

Hans

Showdown
12-02-08, 02:41
I just changed my flight to Phuket rather than BKK as I know the airport wont be open in time for my flight. Now how do I get from Phuket to Pattaya? The Bangkok Airways website doesnt work. Hired car? Bus? Please help LOL.

LookingToSwing4
12-02-08, 03:06
Hi guys,

I am making a movie with a cute girl called Mia on new years eve.

It will be a nasty gangbang and party, and I am looking for guys to join in.

It will be totally free and I serve as much beer and drinks as you can take. It's up to you if you want to show your face or not.

Mia is a cute and crazy escort girl who agree to most anything.

You can read more about it here:

http://perfect-mia. Escortsite.com/gangbang. Phtml

Hans

I might be interested if this is for REAL and if I can actually make it into BKK by Dec 29. Not sure if the BKK situation will be resolved, but I am hopeful it will before I am to depart LAX.

The link doesn't work. Can we see who the lovely subject looks like?

Shagwell
12-02-08, 08:03
I might be interested if this is for REAL and if I can actually make it into BKK by Dec 29. Not sure if the BKK situation will be resolved, but I am hopeful it will before I am to depart LAX.

The link doesn't work. Can we see who the lovely subject looks like?Just found the site and it looks genuine - wish I was there!

http://perfect-mia.escortsite.com/gangbang.phtml

Run Mann
12-02-08, 14:06
The link doesn't work. Can we see who the lovely subject looks like?

The poster had some extra spacing in the URL which made it invalid. Here is the correct link, although I would be cautious about the notion that "it’s up to you if you want your face shown". Remember nothing is life is free and if it sounds too good to be true...

http://perfect-mia.escortsite.com/about-me.phtml

ThaiLearner
12-02-08, 14:19
I just changed my flight to Phuket rather than BKK as I know the airport wont be open in time for my flight. Now how do I get from Phuket to Pattaya? The Bangkok Airways website doesnt work. Hired car? Bus? Please help LOL.


Perhaps it is just too busy for them to cope you may have to try ringing them.

Gbmia
12-02-08, 16:04
The poster had some extra spacing in the URL which made it invalid. Here is the correct link, although I would be cautious about the notion that "it’s up to you if you want your face shown". Remember nothing is life is free and if it sounds too good to be true...

http://perfect-mia.escortsite.com/about-me.phtmlThanks for fixing my error!

If you want to join the party, it is no problem using a mask or something similar during the action to keep your identety hidden!

Only 3 guys have signed up, and I hope more of you guys want to join in.

Hans

Bold Focker
12-02-08, 22:02
I just changed my flight to Phuket rather than BKK as I know the airport wont be open in time for my flight. Now how do I get from Phuket to Pattaya? The Bangkok Airways website doesnt work. Hired car? Bus? Please help LOL.The web site does work, I think you will find that the letter shown on the page, indicates the flight is full, and that is why you can't continue!

Flight was booked up until 5th nov.

Other option is bus to train station.

Train to bkk (15hrs and 1140 bth)

Dan7373
12-03-08, 01:02
Thanks for fixing my error!

If you want to join the party, it is no problem using a mask or something similar during the action to keep your identity hidden!

Only 3 guys have signed up, and I hope more of you guys want to join in.

Hans

Perhaps the recent trouble at Bangkok's airports has something to do with the lack of interest. Many people are not sure whether they would be able to come to Thailand or leave Thailand on time after they come. It seems that the protesters are free to occupy the airports any time they want. Which probably makes many travelers insecure about coming to Thailand.

But another reason might be the fact that most people here probably never have had sex in public before. And some guys might have doubts about whether they can get it up for the lady in such a situation. Nobody wants to be embarrassed like that.

Perhaps you need to assure everyone that the lady will bang the gang first in order to get the gang going on her.

I'm not sure if I would feel okay about taking out my dick in front of everyone. But if a good-looking lady comes up to me and sexually assaults me in public in front of her admirers. Then I probably would feel comfortable about returning her the favor with the hard-on she gives me.

And if this lady keeps going from guy to guy and sexually assaulting each one like that. Then pretty soon she will acquire a loyal following of horny guys all of whom feel perfectly justified in banging her at every opportunity.

A crowd of anonymous guys cannot automatically become a gang. It's the lady who needs to organize the guys into a fuck-gang by sexually assaulting them at random and taunting them to retaliate against her with their dicks.

Montrealer2
12-03-08, 03:43
Here are 2 photos of a dynamite duo that I had @Eden Club (Pattaya) one early weekday afternoon. The one in red stockings was new to the business and did not speak a lick of English. I was her first client apparently. What a body she had. What a face. And I knew she was new to this based solely on how she was in bed. She was performing as if I was a king, making sure I was 100% satisfied, doing everything I asked. (well, translated by her older mentor babe). This other babe had been working there for a while; she was absolutely gorgeous! Stunning even. Petite body the way I like it. Anal included for both! Man these 2 were such a team. The older one was coaching her on as I stuffed her mouth! memorable. Fun times, and one seriously incredible finale, where I teabagged the rookie, while the other one finished me off bbbj style, exploding all over her face while every other dropped fell down on the cute rookie below. Then, with jizz everywhere, they both gently licked, sucked, and caressed my manhood for a good 5 minutes until I signaled that I was spent. Superb!

The next girl was from Aviva. These 2 pix were taken after our session, where I had her dressed in hot lingerie and stockings. I forget her name but I recall she must have been a popular one, I think named Ping (I may be wrong). Anyways, she was equally amazing. I checked their website but she no longer appears to be there..

The last one is some bargirl from Soi Cowboy that looked good from far. Her gorgeous long hair covered her egg-like face. I picked her up one night with an Aussie ISG brother. Took her back to the hotel. Anyways, her service SUCKED. Not recommended. She just wanted the $$$. I gave her an earfull though, and I think she was scared that I may complain, but i didn't want to waste my time, seeing that this was the only bad experience I had my whole trip!

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Gbmia
12-03-08, 08:50
Perhaps the recent trouble at Bangkok's airports has something to do with the lack of interest. Many people are not sure whether they would be able to come to Thailand or leave Thailand on time after they come. It seems that the protesters are free to occupy the airports any time they want. Which probably makes many travelers insecure about coming to Thailand.

But another reason might be the fact that most people here probably never have had sex in public before. And some guys might have doubts about whether they can get it up for the lady in such a situation. Nobody wants to be embarrassed like that.

Perhaps you need to assure everyone that the lady will bang the gang first in order to get the gang going on her.

I'm not sure if I would feel okay about taking out my dick in front of everyone. But if a good-looking lady comes up to me and sexually assaults me in public in front of her admirers. Then I probably would feel comfortable about returning her the favor with the hard-on she gives me.

And if this lady keeps going from guy to guy and sexually assaulting each one like that. Then pretty soon she will acquire a loyal following of horny guys all of whom feel perfectly justified in banging her at every opportunity.

A crowd of anonymous guys cannot automatically become a gang. It's the lady who needs to organize the guys into a fuck-gang by sexually assaulting them at random and taunting them to retaliate against her with their dicks.Hi,

I agree about most of what you are writing.

She have been gangbanged some times before, but normally late at night and with alot of alcohol, but then things have been both fun and interesting for all parts. I have now 7 guys saying they wanna attend, and with a positive development on the airport, hopefully this will make it easier.

Hans

Nvslim
12-03-08, 10:40
Just found the site and it looks genuine - wish I was there!

http://perfect-mia.escortsite.com/gangbang.phtml

I thought she looked familiar. The pics on the website are Filipina porn star Leanni Lei. The "about me" page pic is the same as this one

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Yz9Ee4WDF5E/R2r6JFjuSlI/AAAAAAAAAH4/cZ4NGGU986w/LEANNILEI.jpg&imgrefurl=http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/loQlHcSZVf3rUu-BRPpGZg&usg=__5d3B3i46OfgdVljtc5NENOK6heY=&h=1349&w=885&sz=22&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=AlyWcTmoZgnKnM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=98&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522Leanni%2BLei%2522%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

Slim

Shagwell
12-03-08, 13:58
I thought she looked familiar. The pics on the website are Filipina porn star Leanni Lei. The "about me" page pic is the same as this one

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Yz9Ee4WDF5E/R2r6JFjuSlI/AAAAAAAAAH4/cZ4NGGU986w/LEANNILEI.jpg&imgrefurl=http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/loQlHcSZVf3rUu-BRPpGZg&usg=__5d3B3i46OfgdVljtc5NENOK6heY=&h=1349&w=885&sz=22&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=AlyWcTmoZgnKnM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=98&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522Leanni%2BLei%2522%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

SlimWell spotted. Thats a shame, 'she' just e-mailed me back to! I wonder what scam there running going to the trouble of making a website and all. Did notice that her e-mail is a swedish one, as is the guys who's supposedly organising the party.

Dan7373
12-03-08, 16:45
Well spotted. Thats a shame, 'she' just e-mailed me back to! I wonder what scam there running going to the trouble of making a website and all. Did notice that her e-mail is a swedish one, as is the guys who's supposedly organising the party.
The picture of Leanni Lei copied from the internet does make me doubt whether this gang-bang is for real or not.

But some years ago I've read about an American porn maker who got arrested and deported from Thailand for making porn movies there. Apparently making hardcore porn movies is illegal in Thailand. And those who do it anyway must hide from the authorities.

But there are some hardcore porn websites that specialize in showing western guys with Thai ladies.
http://www.travelsexguide.tv/thaisex.htm

Which means that there is some porn-making going on there. And when people have to hide from the authorities. Then perhaps they end up deceiving everyone too much.

Johnthescot
12-04-08, 01:13
for those that harbour this particular fantasy, I was luckly enough to experience it a couple of weeks ago.

Gogo on Soi Bacau? Near Soi Diana? cant remember name. cool place, opens at 3pm. mamasan is cool old girl. really knows the business. Good chat and will chat about the girls and give advice etc. Buy her a drink and you are set. Saw her in corner a few times actually showing the new girls how to dance on stage. Quite funny really. Never seen such newbies before. When I was there she reckoned 60% of the girls had started in last 2 weeks, all brand new girls, first bar ever. Really good atmosphere in the bar. She told me that the girls are absolutely never allowed to ask for a drink. If a girl talks to a guy for a while then she will come over and suggest that the guy buys a drink but he doesn't have too. I liked her.

So - I had 2 identical twins (and I mean totally identical except for one of them having slightly inverted nipples!!) for a ST session. Interesting. I say interesting rather than great because one of them had started that day and I was her first customer ever. Shy but happy to be directed by her sister. No way was it great sex, in fact quite frustrating really, but it was a tick in the box, one off the list!! :-)

Funny thing was, a few days later I took the sister that had been there a few weeks, and was a lot better, and another newbie who was small and cute (2nd day in bar). Again not great experience but not done many 3somes so was ok. The really funny part is that the 2nd newbie girl is an identical twin too (REALLY, no bullshit). Her sister works in gogo on Soi 8 across from Eastinny (old eastinny). So after short time with them we head off to see her sister. Wow, identical totally. Fcuk if I had another day I would have done the four of them together! And they would be up for it!!

I know a lot of guys have fantasies about this so can one of you lucky gits over there do the 4 of them and report back? (with pictures please) :-)

On another note, the gogo in Soi 8 (buggered if I can remember the name though!!) had 2 stunners with really huge tits so that would be my first port of call next visit in January!! :-)

Keep it up guys. Still depressed being back for 3 weeks but only 8 weeks to go till next 2 week trip!! :-)

Johnthescot

Daddy07
12-04-08, 01:27
...and another newbie who was small and cute (2nd day in bar). Again not great experience but not done many 3somes so was ok. The really funny part is that the 2nd newbie girl is an identical twin too (REALLY, no bullshit). Her sister works in gogo on Soi 8 across from Eastinny (old eastinny)...Johnthescot
I bet their names are Fie and Fa, who used to work together at Catz.

Very cute little monkeys.

MilesToGo
12-04-08, 02:56
for those that harbour this particular fantasy, I was luckly enough to experience it a couple of weeks ago.

Gogo on Soi Bacau? Near Soi Diana? cant remember name. cool place, ...cut....
Johnthescot

that would be Oasis Gogo e or one moe block to the north would Club Blu (was it the one with the ladies dancing in the window?

ThaiLearner
12-04-08, 15:13
for those that harbour this particular fantasy, I was luckly enough to experience it a couple of weeks ago.

Gogo on Soi Bacau? Near Soi Diana? cant remember name. cool place, opens at 3pm. mamasan is cool old girl. really knows the business. Good chat and will chat about the girls and give advice etc. Buy her a drink and you are set. Saw her in corner a few times actually showing the new girls how to dance on stage. Quite funny really. Never seen such newbies before. When I was there she reckoned 60% of the girls had started in last 2 weeks, all brand new girls, first bar ever. Really good atmosphere in the bar. She told me that the girls are absolutely never allowed to ask for a drink. If a girl talks to a guy for a while then she will come over and suggest that the guy buys a drink but he doesn't have too. I liked her.

So - I had 2 identical twins (and I mean totally identical except for one of them having slightly inverted nipples!!) for a ST session. Interesting. I say interesting rather than great because one of them had started that day and I was her first customer ever. Shy but happy to be directed by her sister. No way was it great sex, in fact quite frustrating really, but it was a tick in the box, one off the list!! :-)

Funny thing was, a few days later I took the sister that had been there a few weeks, and was a lot better, and another newbie who was small and cute (2nd day in bar). Again not great experience but not done many 3somes so was ok. The really funny part is that the 2nd newbie girl is an identical twin too (REALLY, no bullshit). Her sister works in gogo on Soi 8 across from Eastinny (old eastinny). So after short time with them we head off to see her sister. Wow, identical totally. Fcuk if I had another day I would have done the four of them together! And they would be up for it!!

I know a lot of guys have fantasies about this so can one of you lucky gits over there do the 4 of them and report back? (with pictures please) :-)

On another note, the gogo in Soi 8 (buggered if I can remember the name though!!) had 2 stunners with really huge tits so that would be my first port of call next visit in January!! :-)

Keep it up guys. Still depressed being back for 3 weeks but only 8 weeks to go till next 2 week trip!! :-)

Johnthescot


I think you mean Oasis I am looking forward to going back there in January

M P Lurker
12-04-08, 16:06
Wow, identical totally. Fcuk if I had another day I would have done the four of them together! And they would be up for it!!

I know a lot of guys have fantasies about this ....
Same Same!
I don't understand this fantasy, unless both are stunning. I had a GF for a few years who was an identical twin. I never wanted to do the other crankier twin.

Now I think a mother and daughter makes a far more interesting fantasy, providing the daughter is at least 18 and providing the mother is not your GF. Can't say I have ticked it off yet.

I have done sisters with a small age gap and both had big tits (D cups).

M P Lurker
12-04-08, 16:11
Wow, identical totally. Fcuk if I had another day I would have done the four of them together! And they would be up for it!!

I know a lot of guys have fantasies about this ....
Same Same!
I don't understand this fantasy, unless both are stunning. I had a GF for a few years who was an identical twin. I never wanted to do the other crankier twin.

What if you met a mother and daughter at the disco and both were hot? More interesting?

I have done sisters with a small age gap and both had big tits (D cups), but didn't have both at the same time.

Gbmia
12-04-08, 20:42
I thought she looked familiar. The pics on the website are Filipina porn star Leanni Lei. The "about me" page pic is the same as this one

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Yz9Ee4WDF5E/R2r6JFjuSlI/AAAAAAAAAH4/cZ4NGGU986w/LEANNILEI.jpg&imgrefurl=http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/loQlHcSZVf3rUu-BRPpGZg&usg=__5d3B3i46OfgdVljtc5NENOK6heY=&h=1349&w=885&sz=22&hl=en&start=2&um=1&tbnid=AlyWcTmoZgnKnM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=98&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522Leanni%2BLei%2522%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

SlimYou are both correct. It is Leanni, and she have done tons of porn. She have been out of the business for some time while having familiy, but have all the time kept on doing escort.

The only scam by this thing is that she is 8 years older than the pics on her page, but she is still smiling all the time and she now does even more crazy stuff.

The movie i am making is not to be sold btw.

Hans

Run Mann
12-04-08, 23:30
The movie i am making is not to be sold btw.

Hans

So what do you get out of making the movie?

Member #4351
12-05-08, 00:13
He gets a free show. Normal.

Bigboi46
12-05-08, 08:46
You are both correct. It is Leanni, and she have done tons of porn. She have been out of the business for some time while having family, but have all the time kept on doing escort.

The only scam by this thing is that she is 8 years older than the pics on her page, but she is still smiling all the time and she now does even more crazy stuff.

The movie I am making is not to be sold btw.

HansWhy would she be in Thailand escorting for little money when she still can get top dollar in the US. I don't believe it is her.

Gbmia
12-05-08, 09:44
So what do you get out of making the movie?The planning is very interesting, and I will have a nice memory of it afterwards.
I am filthy rich, and don't need to get any out of this besides my own satiesfaction.

Run Mann
12-05-08, 17:34
The planning is very interesting, and I will have a nice memory of it afterwards.
I am filthy rich, and don't need to get any out of this besides my own satiesfaction.
I am not knocking your gig; I am skeptical, but not critical of it. As a filthy rich person you would probably have better luck finding takers for your project if you placed an ad in the classified section and offer them some type of financial reward. However, there are some legalities about making adult movies in Thailand. You and others who partake in this project should be aware of this so you don’t get caught with your pants down around your ankles. Good luck.

http://www.mangosauce.com/news/vice_cops_bust_john_t_bone_in_pattaya.php

Mangofan
12-08-08, 11:04
i feel that it is my unfortunate duty to inform everyone that coyotes go-go on walking street has been employing **** girls as dancers. i was in there saturday night having a beer or two and 5 showgirls get on stage. there were 2 of them who were quite stunning, and thought that they might be in the 18-19 year old age, but not any older.

i went upstairs to the toilet later and one of them walked out of the dressing room and laid down on one of the sofas. i sat down next to her and began to chat. she is possibly the most beautiful go-go dancer i've ever seen on walking street - very tall, no tattoos, small perky breasts, perfect body. the towel lady (in front of the toilets) said something to her in thai. i asked the girl what the lady had said and she replied "she thinks that you should barfine me." i asked the girl how much, and she told me the barfine was 800 baht, and that there were rooms upstairs. i asked how much for st, and she replied "2000 baht". i then inquired how much lt would be, and she said "i cannot go long time". when i asked why, she said "i don't have id card." i then asked how old she was, and she replied "i only 16". well, that set alarm bells ringing. i said it was very nice to meet her, and then went downstairs and finished my beer.

i know that some bars do employ **** girls, but this is the first time i actually encountered one, and i certainly didn't expect to see any **** girls dancing in the bars on walking street. be careful - the consequences are surely not worth it.

Jayleesf
12-08-08, 11:51
i feel that it is my unfortunate duty to inform everyone that coyotes go-go on walking street has been employing **** girls as dancers. i was in there saturday night having a beer or two and 5 showgirls get on stage. there were 2 of them who were quite stunning, and thought that they might be in the 18-19 year old age, but not any older.

i went upstairs to the toilet later and one of them walked out of the dressing room and laid down on one of the sofas. i sat down next to her and began to chat. she is possibly the most beautiful go-go dancer i've ever seen on walking street - very tall, no tattoos, small perky breasts, perfect body. the towel lady (in front of the toilets) said something to her in thai. i asked the girl what the lady had said and she replied "she thinks that you should barfine me." i asked the girl how much, and she told me the barfine was 800 baht, and that there were rooms upstairs. i asked how much for st, and she replied "2000 baht". i then inquired how much lt would be, and she said "i cannot go long time". when i asked why, she said "i don't have id card." i then asked how old she was, and she replied "i only 16". well, that set alarm bells ringing. i said it was very nice to meet her, and then went downstairs and finished my beer.

i know that some bars do employ **** girls, but this is the first time i actually encountered one, and i certainly didn't expect to see any **** girls dancing in the bars on walking street. be careful - the consequences are surely not worth it.i had the same experience at angel witch in pattaya. there was a beautiful, but very young looking girl there who i bought a drink for. during the conversation, i asked how much for st and lt. she said she could not do lt b/c she had no id. then i asked her how old she was and she told me 16. i then went looking for someone else to pick up. when checking out other dancers, there were a few more who i doubt were 18 or over. i did not have this problem in the bangkok go gos, so i am wondering if this is more of a problem in pattaya.

based on my this experience, i will no longer take any girl even for short term if she says she does not have an id.

Westsider
12-09-08, 03:00
A 19 yo dancer at NEP, who I have seen many times, introduced me to one of her friends who also works in NEP. I turns out she did not have an ID and my friend said she was 17, so watch out and be careful. It's best to look at the ID yourself. 2008 equals Thai year 2551, so born in Thai year 2533 means she is 18. Also, I've heard Thai's say they are 20 when only 19 because they are "starting" their 20th year. I don't think this was done to deceive anyone but rather a different nomenclature. Western perspective is that you have "completed" that year rather than "starting" that year.

Bumholes1
12-09-08, 03:10
2008 equals Thai year 2551, so born in Thai year 2533 means she is 18. .

Not necessarily. Only if she were born on or before 9th December 2533. If she were born after that date in 2533 she is still only 17!

Goyave
12-09-08, 04:12
... Based on my this experience, I will no longer take any girl even for short term if she says she does not have an ID.It's indeed a good practice, but don't forget that sometimes a girl can borrow her older sister's (or friend's) ID card.

Showdown
12-13-08, 01:33
pattaya and beyond


getting to pattaya

well i have finally completed my trip to pattaya. this board, as it has been in the past, made this trip possible. thanks to all who bother to report on their trips and the numerous pm’s i got to make my trip memorable.

first i flew into phuket rather than bkk due to the airport being closed. i was hoping that i could get a flight into pattaya or u-tapao. but to no avail. all sold out. as i exited customs their were touts there selling bus rides to bkk. i initially resisted because i wanted to go back to the counter to see if any tickets may possibly be available to the two airports. but as i was going a gent from the uk told me he tried and their were no flights. he had paid to take a minibus to bangkok. given the safety in numbers and the fact we seemed comfortably with each other i decided that was the best way to get there.

we were sooned joined in the waiting area by a women with a 3 year old (oh god i thought) and then we were joined by this hot thai chick! turn out she was in the thai army! she has just completed some training in the us and was returning home. damn she had a nice ass on her! anyhow i knew that somehow someway on this trip i was going to get at her.

before i talk about the bus trip i wanted to stress-do not ever drive or take a bus from phuket to bangkok! it took 9 hours and 25 minutes and that was with three stops for gas and the driver driving very fast. at times i was concerned about the drivers speed. it was borderline reckless at times and if it wasn’t for the thai army chick we wouldn’t have been able to communicate with him at all. because most of the drive was at night there was nothing to see. when the sun did finally rise the drive was boring-except for one thing. we hit a dog. a big dog. about the size of a good size german shepard. i felt terrible about that as i saw the dog fly through the air as it was hit. surprisingly the driving ignored it and kept going. he didn’t even seem the least bit concerned.

anyhow the little girl that i was so concerned about turned out to be a lot of fun and made the ride pretty cool. but after the brit guy, the little girl and the girls mom went to sleep i starting chatting up the thai army chick. within 15 minutes i had her address in bangkok her e-mail, her phone and her invite to come to bangkok so she can show me around(her bedroom no doubt). more on that later.

the driver dropped us off someone in the middle of bangkok. the thai army chick took me to a cab stand and negotiated my cab ride to pattaya-i think it was 800 baht. oh-i told the girl i was going to pattaya because i had a friend that owned a restaurant there. she accepted it no problem.

the ride to pattaya from bangkok takes 2 hours and you have to pay the 100 baht toll along the expressway. it’s a pretty boring ride.

queen victoria inn

i stayed at the queen victoria hotel. i would absolutely not stay here again. i have no problems with budget accommodations. but there were so many issues that i would never ever stay here again. the queen victoria is on soi 6. however, off of 2nd road, there are actually (2) soi 6’s! the driver dropped me off at the wrong soi 6. i had to walk a good 4 blocks before i found the right one. and on the subject of cab drivers-they don’t know where anything is. one the three occasions that i took a cab the driver didn’t know where i wanted to go and drove around and around and then tried to just leave me wherever they wanted(i wasn’t having that though). so be careful with the cabs.

onto the queen victoria. it is a small hotel. it is a small bar/restaurant downstairs. the women who handled the check in was frankly rude the entire time i was there. then they made me change rooms on day 3 for no reason! they had me change from one side of the hotel to the other. i wanted to get an early start that day and had to wait for the other guest to check out before i could leave me room. and given i had things in the safe i wasn’t going to leave that to chance. 12 noon comes around and the guest still hasn’t checked out. i went to the rude older women who handles the check in and asked for the owner. i’m sorry guys-this was the most greasy, sloppy too much chest hair guy i’d ever seen. he proceeded to tell me that i should knock on the guest door and tell him i needed my room!!! incredible. the guest left the room at 12:30 and then the owner told me i could have it now but it wasn’t clean. i was getting so angry! when i got in the room it was a damn smokers room and smelled terrible. later that night i saw two damn roaches in my bag of oreos on the clothes chest! the only advantage to both rooms i had was that it faced soi 6 and i could watch the girls. if you dare stay at the queen victoria on soi 6 be sure to get a room on the 1st floor that faces the street. you’ll love watching the girls come in and get ready for the nights work. one of the best points of the trip!

now the queen victoria closes the front door at around 10pm i think. so you can only come in and out from the alley. then you have to climb some steep metal steps to get into the hotel. the guard that is there at night is cool. he doesn’t speak any english but i always spoke to him and gave him a bottled water once. be sure to be friends the guard. you want to know why?

the worst reason to stay at queen victoria.

ladyboys.

now there have been reports of ladyboys on soi6 and i wasn’t too worried. however guys it is over the top. they aren’t really there during the day. but at night. good god. you see soi 6 turns off all of the street lights around 12 or 1 i think. this is the darkest street i have ever walked down in my life. these ladyboys don’t stand in the middle of the street so you can see them. they actually stand up in the dark corners and then pop out. i mean it is a scary experience and to make matters worse their voices are very strange. the first time it happened you have the fight or flight experience you know-and i had the fight experience and got really aggressive and the two ladyboys backed down. but everyday i was in pattaya i had to go through this at night and even sometimes during the day. however around day 3 the ladyboys left me alone because i was so aggressive with them. i know some of you have recommended not doing this but the hell with me being nearly assaulted. and that’s what they nearly do. but i guess they go the message and left me alone. but trust me guys it is a very serious issue if you decide to stay at the queen victoria inn. even after i knew they left me alone each time i came back around 3 or 4 i was on extreme guard walking down that back alley of soi 6.you have been warned.

the hotel rooms are motel 6 type. nothing fancy at all. the tv’s however are nice sony flat screens and there are lots of channels.

as far as soi 6 distance from walking street it is really about what you came to pattaya for. i like street girls so the opportunity to walk from soi 6 to walking street and see the literally 100-200 street girls was like a kid in a candy store for me. but if you aren’t into the street girls on beach road don’t stay on soi 6. its too far away from walking street. i must to have walked it ten times in my stay and even though i enjoyed it you better be fit to do it.


soi 6

soi 6 is about an american city block long. on each side are about 40 bars with short time girls. guys it is incredible and frankly overwhelming. as you walk past each one(cars rarely ride down this street) each and every bar has about 8+ girls in front and they are all screaming for you. some come out and grab you and hug you etc. being black and frankly handsome i got a lot of attention. i never partaked in any of the soi6 girls however i can tell you watching them was incredible. each day i would watch them start coming in around 11am. and i took a lot of photos of them from my window. there was one girl in particular was was absolutely adorable. i took several photos of her but when i went down to actually barfine her she was gone. i never saw her again after that. take a look at her pic. she is gorgeous(look at the butt shot!). the girls sit for about two hours putting their makeup on a chatting. i noticed several of the bars had for sale signs and some never opened the whole time i was there. there is one lady boy bar..its on the left side when you are walking towards the beach. i always steered clear of them and as you start to walk down soi6 towards the ocean the bars thin out anyway. honestly it is just a bit overwhelming having that many girls screaming for you. you just have to experience it yourself.

beach road/street girls

the street girls literally start at soi 6. you wont find them above that. guys there are street girls 24 hours avalible. the bulk of them come out after 6 and stay until about 4am. and i don’t know who said that most of them are dogs because they are not. i saw many 8’s among them. the closer you get to walking street the prettier they tend to get. the street girls tend to cluster in groups. they are always friendly and smile at you and about 40% of them will reach out and grab you. but it is in a friendly manner always. yes some of the women are hags but i’m telling you guys atleast 70% of them are doable. the girls are 99% of the time on the ocean side of beach road. only really really late at night are they on the other side of beach road.they all want 500 baht. don’t pay more. most of them are from issan and have atleast one kid. but in my experiences with them they were all friendly, sweet and saw their work as a necessity. and they care about how they treated me even though they were street girls. they always held my hand on the way back to the hotel and were just as sweet as can be. so different than streetwalkers anywhere i have encountered in the world. now the fact that i am black was an advantage. each girl liked me more because of it and i actually get hit on twice in pattaya-buy a girl working in the burger king on beach road and a girl working in the pattaya hospital. they always called me “chocolate man” or something but it was good natured and sweet-not racists. i was never looked down on or anything because of my race. one street girl told me she and her friends rarely saw black men there and were happy to be with one.

my goals were to find a street girl that was lactating, get anal, a facial and video them all. and i got all of it.

the first(girl #1) one i chose was a fun girl who reached out for me as i was walking by. she was buddly, fun and had a real nice rack on her. you know in all the days there i searched and searched for a natural d thai girl. never found it.

anyhow at the hotel she was fun and talkative. had a child. when she took her clothes off i was a bit disappointed at the stretch marks and as you can see from the photo her knees were bloodied from a motorbike fall. i was going to hit it but i noticed a herpes lesion near her pussy(look close at photo 2). so instead i decided to unload 3 weeks worth of saved up cum on her face. plus she ws squirting milk everywhere! i got some great video of it. and guys she took it like a champ and licked her lips afterwards and let me take all the photos and videos i wanted. i gave gave her an extra 200 baht because she did so well. she even gave me her number but i didn’t want repeats on this trip.

the next girl(#2) was the jewel of the trip. at about 4 am i decided to walk on the other side of beach road(the none ocean side of the street). i saw this absolutely lovely smile. she said hello to me. she was probably in her early 30’s, tits weren’t so big etc. but she was just so damn nice and cool. i said what the hell. she was the best street girt i have ever had anywhere. she massaged me, bathed me, gave me anal, two pops. she told me all about her life but wasn’t looking for a handout. i still think of her today. i saw her again two days later but didn’t go with her because i wanted as much variety as possible. she always is on the non beach side of beach road after 1am. she is a gem. i had to give her 800 baht after she spent nearly three hours with me and do so much…more than i would have though i would have gotten even from a girlfriend.

the third girl(#3) was a little the same. older, not the best looking but always a smile and took a great facial. 500 baht.

the fourth(#4) girl was just a bit shy. halfway to the room i changed my mind about her and gave her 500baht and told her don’t worry about it. she was appalled. she insisted in going to the room and taking care of me. and she did. what a sweetheart. she was a bit shy with the pictures but allowed it.

walking street

walking street is absolutely overwhelming. you know when you enter walking street from beach road because there is a huge arch that says walking street lol. if you asked me to guess walking street is maybe 8 or 9 usa city blocks long. on each side are beer bars, strip joints and a few restaurants. i went there each night and it was wall to wall people including familes and small children(which appalled me). nevertheless you have girls outside trying to entice you into each joint. there are two or three convenience stores for soda, etc on walking street. i even saw a few ladyboys though they weren’t aggressive at all compared to the soi6 ones. as i said beer bar girls etc aren’t my thing but i still went inside of peppermint. they are fully nude in there although the place is very small. you have to go up an escalator to get inside and they check you for weapons. the girls dance on very small stages(there are two of them) and one has three girls behind glass dancing. the girls were attractive however i had seen the same quality on walking street. in my case i sat right up on a stage(they seat you when you come inside) and you are eye level with the bottom of the girls so you are looking right up her p***. wow.

if you walk to the end of walking street you see the pier and the go kart track. the go karts are a blast.

i also took the time to find [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), hell club and saba dee massage though i didn’t partake. the area around [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) looks like it would be a cool spot at night though i didn’t get over there at night. i walked through about 12 noon and there were about 10 girls sitting in front of [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) and several looked quite nice. i was simply too drained to do it though maybe next time.

there is so much else that can be reported but i cant remember everything. a few things to remember:

-always carry change for the public transport.
-be careful on soi 6 at night
-be nice to the ladies
-sleep in during the day and hit the streets about 5
-don’t swim in the water-its filthy
-there are lots and lots of russians
-the burger king and mcdonalds are open 24 hours on beach road
-there is a 24 hour cybercafé just south of the dolphin fountain on beach road.
-do not buy a sim card from the 7-11. it is a ripoff. instead there is a shopping mall that sells nothing but cell phone supplies on the second floor. i cant remember the name of it but ask and someone will know. get your sim cards from there.


in general i found thai girls moderately attractive. yes they are small petite etc but i guess i don’t find them as soft as a japanese girl or having a little more meet on them like chinese or fiipinas. nevertheless they are definitely attractive women.

if i can help anyone with there upcoming trip i will be glad to. unfortunately i found most of the pattaya reports to be full of information but it is worded in a way that newbies can have a hard time with it.

pattaya-i will return.

Showdown
12-13-08, 01:35
To go along with my Pattaya report. I like to put them here rather than the picture gallery so you can associate the post with the photos and vice versa.

Twice Divorced
12-13-08, 02:40
Showdown, it sounds like you had a good first trip. Just out of curiosity, how long were you there? I made my first trip last May and have to say that it was the best time I have ever had of all the places I've been. I recall entering Walking St and wondering to myself, "where in hell do I start"?

I was supposed to have returned in October but had to cancel due to surgery, and then was scheduled again in November but, unfortunately, had to cancel due to another operation. I'm presently scheduled to return in the middle of January and am looking forward to it. Posts like yours help to pass the time waiting to get back there myself. Thanks.

Mr Gogo
12-13-08, 03:07
Great report sho, you actually made me feel like I was there. Very informative report. Looking forward to my first trip in Febuary.

Maaars
12-13-08, 03:16
Pattaya and Beyond
.........I starting chatting up the Thai Army chick. Within 15 minutes I had her address in Bangkok her e-mail, her phone and her invite to come to Bangkok so she can show me around(her bedroom no doubt). More on that later.

Excellent report Showdown......... my only question is did u get to do the Thai GI Jane ?? Make sure u post the full story buddy........ and if u get any pix of her looking slutty in her uniform, be sure to share them too ! :D

Run Mann
12-13-08, 03:22
Beach Road/Street Girls

The street girls literally start at Soi 6. You wont find them above that.


Nice report, you mean "below" Soi 6 not above, although I have seen girls near the intersection of Soi 5 and Beach Road at night.

Maaars
12-13-08, 03:32
You are both correct. It is Leanni, and she have done tons of porn. She have been out of the business for some time while having familiy, but have all the time kept on doing escort.

The only scam by this thing is that she is 8 years older than the pics on her page, but she is still smiling all the time and she now does even more crazy stuff.

The movie i am making is not to be sold btw.

Hans

Hans - so is she truely Leanni Lei ? And all her turn up get to fuck her for free ? Well if its correct, that sounds like my cuppa tea........ fcuking a real live porno star ! :D

El Minetero
12-13-08, 04:12
The store that sells nothing but cell phones on the second floor is Tuk Com on Pattaya Tai. On the fourth floor are DVDs at low prices.

KT

Warbucks
12-13-08, 04:58
Pattaya and Beyond

They always held my hand on the way back to the hotel and were just as sweet as can be. So different than Streetwalkers anywhere I have encountered in the world. Now the fact that I am black was an ADVANTAGE. Each girl liked me more because of it and I actually get hit on twice in Pattaya-buy a girl working in the Burger King on Beach Road and a girl working in the Pattaya hospital. They always called me “Chocolate Man” or something but it was good natured and sweet-not racists. I was never looked down on or anything because of my race. One street girl told me she and her friends rarely saw black men there and were happy to be with one.


In general I found Thai girls moderately attractive. Yes they are small petite etc but I guess I don’t find them as soft as a Japanese girl or having a little more meet on them like Chinese or Fiipinas. Nevertheless they are definitely attractive women.


Pattaya-I will return.

My Nike's have not touched Pattaya since 06'....first and foremost great report and I enjoy reading the post from other “Brothers” as myself. I hope you didn’t get the impression because of your dealings with a few prostitutes and a few restaurants workers that this is how Thais in general feel about people of African descent.

Few points: Pattaya sex workers will damn near go home with anyone in my experiences. It is a big tourist destination so they are used to seeing a lot of different races. The US military (the Navy) makes annual trips there. So don’t believe the bull they rarely see black guys…

I get hit on in Thailand too by so-called normal girls working in little shops or square (no happy ending) massage parlors and I am not handsome but I am young and look like it. I am sure the same thing will happen in the states if you look wealthy and you meet American women with dead end low-tier jobs.
Yes SE is Asia is known for the hookers being friendly this is called the GFE buts it’s changing by the minute.

As for all the nationalities of women you wrote about in your last paragraph I quoted. Thais the Chinese–Thai type are more beautiful then Filipinas. The Isaan type are no different than your typical SE Asian. Chinese girls in my experience seem cold as ice. I live in PI and got Filipina fever and they seem to be the sweetest out of all the girls I have encountered. Japanese girls….they got their own damn money….nough said….

Goyave
12-13-08, 06:03
Great report Showdown! You got the right price for the taxi trip from Bangkok to Pattaya. Just a general advice here: in Thailand, it’s better to have with you the address (and directions if possible) in Thai or at least the phone number of your chosen hotel when you want to go there by cab. The cab driver usually has his/her own mobile phone and will call your hotel in order to get the right directions if he/she is lost or has no clue where your hotel is located. You can often find enough information on the Web.

About ladyboys, I usually just laugh and wave them away while saying that I’m not into "special ladies", but just fancy the "regular" ones. I've never had to be aggressive and never have been seriously annoyed by them so far.

You’re right when you write that you can find pretty girls on Beach Road and in Walking Street (and you got the right rates with the girls too which is good for your first stay in Pattay). But you might find most of them less attractive on your next trips. I would not fuck now most of the girls I did on my first stay (1999) in Pattaya (even if they were still physically the same more than 9 years later). In the meanwhile, my tastes have changed and as I’m living here daily since 2003, I’m one of those spoilt bastards who’ve become a bit picky with local girls. But I still remember the overwhelming welcome that I received too from the girls on my first trip to Pattaya. And am happy that you enjoyed your stay.

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GoodEnough
12-13-08, 07:32
Showdown, great report, thanks for taking the time to compose it. I've been to Bangkok dozens of times, but will be making my first trip to Pattaya in a couple of months. I'll probably stay there 3 or 4 days.

I've read much of this forum, and I'm still somewhat confused about hotels. I'm not much on SWs, and prefer to take girls from the bars. Can anyone recommend a reasonably decent hotel in reasonable proximity to the bars and the beaches? Price is not that much of a concern, but I don't need something ultra luxe.

Thanks,

GE

RoadGlide
12-13-08, 07:54
Showdown, great report, thanks for taking the time to compose it. I've been to Bangkok dozens of times, but will be making my first trip to Pattaya in a couple of months. I'll probably stay there 3 or 4 days.

I've read much of this forum, and I'm still somewhat confused about hotels. I'm not much on SWs, and prefer to take girls from the bars. Can anyone recommend a reasonably decent hotel in reasonable proximity to the bars and the beaches? Price is not that much of a concern, but I don't need something ultra luxe.

Thanks,

GE
I've heard some good things about Secrets bar and hotel if you feel you need to stay right in the thick of it right off of walking street.

I have stayed at the White House Condotel http://whitehousecondotel.com/ and I liked it.

RG.

Cunning Stunt
12-13-08, 08:34
Pattaya and Beyond
Pattaya-I will return.


Excellent report Showdown. You will return - one trip to Pattaya is never enough but return visits are never as magical as the first. Then you are in a real 'kid in a chocolate factory' mentality which diminishes proportinately on every subsequent trip.

But its always good to read a report by a first time visitor and remember the wide eyed delight of ones own first visit.

On my last visit, I too was suprised at the improvement in the standard of the SW's on Beach Road. There are some real lookers amongst their numbers and they invariably know how to please which cannot always be said about gogo or beer bar girls.


... I enjoy reading the post from other “Brothers” as myself.

Whats all this shit about 'brothers', Daddy. Thought we were all 'brothers' in mongering on this egalitarian forum.





I've read much of this forum, and I'm still somewhat confused about hotels. I'm not much on SWs, and prefer to take girls from the bars. Can anyone recommend a reasonably decent hotel in reasonable proximity to the bars and the beaches? Price is not that much of a concern, but I don't need something ultra luxe.

GE

Gogo bars and beer (outdoor) bars are located all over Pattaya so no matter where you stay in Pattaya, both will be close at hand. But assume that you mean Walking (pedestrianized) Street where some of the 'better class' gogo's with finer looking talent is located. Don't flame me on this one as everyone has his own favourite part of Pattaya either for stay or play. I prefer somewhere central (stayed a Sunshine Vista Serviced Apartment last trip which proved a mistake as although a good hotel, it is not really central). If you want somewhere near Walking Street may I suggest the Penthouse (http://www.penthousehotel.com/index_1.html), which is a weird and wonderful boutique hotel close to the action. Its not for everyone as its very monger orientated with the Kitten Club Gogo on the premises and you might find the rooms a bit strange if you are used to normal hotel room (swings, Jacuzzi's, gogo poles, sex toys etc). But stayed there in one of the Penthouse Relax Suites on my last but one visit and thoroughly enjoyed it. Not exactly a place to entertain business colleagues though, but I think you might find it amusing and fun. Not cheap though but not overtly expensive. GH

Warbucks
12-13-08, 08:52
Whats all this shit about 'brothers', Daddy. Thought we were all 'brothers' in mongering on this egalitarian forum.



GH


GH he is a Black American I am a Black American. I don’t see too much of that on this side of the world. Only guys twice my age and an infinite amount times lighter in skin complexion :)

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=brother

Cunning Stunt
12-13-08, 09:38
GH he is a Black American I am a Black American. I don’t see too much of that on this side of the world. Only guys twice my age and an infinite amount times lighter in skin complexion :)

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=brother

Oh I see - and there was me thinking you was a 60 year old fat, white guy from Awshucksville, Ohio :confused:

Nvslim
12-13-08, 10:58
To go along with my Pattaya report. I like to put them here rather than the picture gallery so you can associate the post with the photos and vice versa.



The girl in the shorts and white tank top is really cute. Is that the one you missed out on. That would have broken my heart. Great report and pics.

Slim

Maaars
12-13-08, 11:48
Was a quiet night in Jomthien and I was looking for something a bit different to my usual, and as they say, a change is good as a rest. I usually go for the darker skinned girls who more than often come from Isaan, preferably on the slim side, young, no tattoo’s (unless small and discrete or one of those “w-hore stamps” on the lower back) and not too much to say for themselves…….none of this “Hello hansum man, I love you, I miss you” crap :rolleyes: My aim was still young and dark skinned, but wanted something a bit more “pum pui”, definitely not from Isaan and a few big tats just to top things off. Additionally, I usually only go ST but I had come prepared courtesy of Vitamin T and was intent on on a good LT session all night.
Firstly popped into Take Care Bar which I recalled from previous visits had something to specification. However, only saw a girl (Ann??) who came over for a chat. I’d done her before and was sorely tempted again (she had performed excellently the previous time). However, after one drink, decided to stick to the plan and went a few doors down to Cozy Bar. Perched on a stool outside looking a likely target was the slutty-looking Joy, nicely painted with a huge tat on her right shoulder and upper arm and not too slim, not too fat…….mmmm, methinks “worth a drink or two”. Went inside with her, ordered the customary drinks and started chatting. 23 y/o for Chon Buri (great, not from Isaan !) with one kid, had been in Pattaya for 3 months. Spent maybe an hour with her in polite conversation during which she showed me a few more tats that were previously discretely covered by clothing…… and she had a 'w-hore" stamp too……… EXCELLENT ! :cool: By this time she had my juices stirring and decided to ask to pay her bar fine at which she replied “can’t, just start “men” (Thai for “period”) today”. Now I’m not one to let a bit of blood get in the way of a start to what could be a beautiful relationship….. at least for one night anyway ;)
“No problem for me”, I responded. Shit, probably a ⅓ of the girls I take in Thailand end up with a bit of blood at the end anyway (note to flamers: no, I’m not rough with them, and no, I’m not bragging about how big I am, but I like to go in as deep as possible so it sometimes end up with a bit of blood if they are young and on the smaller side, which as I started out by saying, is how I prefer them).
Joy looked a bit hesitant still and replied, “but you can’t can you?”, “why not?” says me. “I never try that before”, she responded. “Cool, first time for everything, let’s go”, I encouraged. By now I could see she was warming to the thought and she excused herself to use the bathroom. When she came back she was smiling and said, “OK, my friend tell me can, I wanna try!”.
I dutifully paid the 300 baht bar fine and off we went to find a room for all night (I never take any of them back to my condo, never want them knowing where I live and too many things lying around to tempt light fingers !). Ended up at some little place in Soi 2 for 600 baht all night which sufficed. Undressed, showered and onto the bed for some action. Joy was all that I was looking for and seemed to be getting quite turned on at the sight of my dick pumping her with a little blood slowly coming out of her pussy and covering the outer lips. I was lying down on the bed with her squatting down on me. “I look like virgin again!” she blurted as she bobbed up and down my shaft, at which point she started to moan, closed her eyes, moved her head backwards and came for me.
After a quick shower it was onto the bed again for a bit of rest and recovery before round 2. Joy looked like she wanted to sleep but I was having none of that so made sure I kept her talking and gave her a few kisses and fondles just to ensure she got the message. Round 2 was just as good as the first, and her w-hore stamp looked great as I did her doggie style. And now we come to the title of this little tale, the “hansum” Norwegian. Now I know many of you guys insist on girls turning their phones off for the duration of their stay, but for me, I just ask for silent during the action. The ring of my phone actually puts me off my stride and it always distracts the girl. . I did actually forget to ask on one occasion though…..

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Joy had done as requested, but I did see her phone flashing on the table while she took a shower. When she came out, I told her I thought someone was calling her and it started again. She looked at the phone, obviously recognised the number and asked if I minded if she answered it. “No problem for me”. Now for a bit of background: Joy had told me in the bar that she had just finished a 7 day stay with a Norwegian guy in his late 20’s. He had left the previous night to continue his holiday in Phuket and would be back in 5 or 6 days to see her again and he was going to arrange to take her to Norway (yeah, right). She said she really liked him but she also said there was one problem; she said he was nice to her but after fucking her several times on day 1 and 2, the activity lessened to only once per day towards the end of their time together (I think she even mentioned he didn’t fuck her at all on day 6 ?!). To be honest, I hadn’t really paid that much attention to what she had been telling me in the bar, but I had remembered a few things she had said. Realistically, I didn’t care too much about her love life or previous customers, the only one of relevance for me was the one who was fucking her now :D
The conversation went something like this (with a bit of assumption on the words being spoken at the other end of the phone by Sven (name changed to protect the guilty)
J: Hello tee-rak, I miss you
S: I miss you too baby
J: How are you ?
S: I’m ok baby, where are you now ?
J: I’m at Cozy Bar
[Maaars starts to smile :) ]
S: Are you really ?
J: Yes tee-rak
S: You go with customer ?
J: No teerak, I tell you, I don’t go with customer anymore, I wait for you
[Maaars starts to smile widely :D ]
S: I just talk with ur friend, she say you are not in the bar now
J: (thinking quickly) Oh, no tee-rak, I not in bar, I go room now, no customer, bar close soon so I go bed
[Maaars – well, she was partly correct; not in bar, go room, in bed]
J: How is Phuket ?
[Maaars – smart girl, change the subject]
S: I don’t like Phuket, I come back Pattaya
J: You stay Pattaya ??? :eek:
S: Yes
J: Where u stay now ? :eek: :eek:
S: Cozy Bar
Joy promptly ends the call, fumbles with and drops the phone, shortly followed floorwards by her towel in a total state of panic.
J: Sven stay Cozy Bar !
M: Really ? :D
J: I don’t believe, I call my friend
Upon calling the friend, she confirms Sven is sitting in Cozy Bar waiting for Joy to come down from her room upstairs.
Joy then proceeds to call Sven.
J: Sorry teerak, no battery
S: Its ok baby, I understand, I wait for you to come down and see me
J: Cannot teerak, I stay room, have “men” today, I feel not good, cannot boom boom

Don’t u just love the quick thinking of TG’s :p

Pix in photo gallery

ThaiLearner
12-13-08, 12:48
Showdown, great report, thanks for taking the time to compose it. I've been to Bangkok dozens of times, but will be making my first trip to Pattaya in a couple of months. I'll probably stay there 3 or 4 days.

I've read much of this forum, and I'm still somewhat confused about hotels. I'm not much on SWs, and prefer to take girls from the bars. Can anyone recommend a reasonably decent hotel in reasonable proximity to the bars and the beaches? Price is not that much of a concern, but I don't need something ultra luxe.

Thanks,

GE


check out the Pattaya hotel thread there are some good suggestions on there

Mabulo
12-13-08, 19:02
Hello Guys

A friend of mine sent me this photos of Gai.

I met her in Pattaya along summer 2003, she was working along beach road.

I know, many people make photo and video with her, and isn't a secret she do it for money, because other friend show me some private video and hundred of picutures in all the pose, anal, pissing, cum in face, lesbo show, play with dildo ... etc ect.

Maybe someone knew her.

Mabulòx

Mabulo
12-13-08, 19:45
Hello Guys

I'm sorry for the low quality of the pictures, but I made this shot with a compact film camera, and I start to make pictures by chance, for a joke, and not for to post in the web.

I don't remember if I ask her permission to post her pics on the web, but at that times I wasn't internet user, but she told me: " For me photo problem. Up to you! " but I think nobody of the user to this Forum will be show her pictures in whole Pattaya and Chonbury district. I hope!

Anyway she ejoy to play with camera and everything happen very instinctively.

Mabvlòx

Showdown
12-13-08, 22:36
There was so much to say in my last report that my hands got sore from typing and I had to stop. Here are some additional notes.

The chick from the Thai Army I never got to see. I simply never got back to Bangkok. However I have been calling her everyday and we are always talking. I am seriously considering going back to Pattaya at the end of this month when we have Christmas break. I dont know how much the tickets are but I am going to look into it. I think this time however I will spend it with my Thai GI Jane. Damn that girl had an ass on her. I dont want to post her pic because she is in the Thai Army and I wouldnt want to cause her any trouble.

One other thing. I had alot of dental work done when I was there. I went to a spot that several folks PM me about and believe me they did a better job than I have ever had in the States. It was fast, effiecient, inexpensive and damn good. One root canal, two fillings and all the associated medicine for less than 200 USD. And believe me the dentist was very pretty and so was her staff. PM me if you want to know where I went in Pattaya.

Also one interesting note. Several of the Beach Road girls offerred to do me right there. This was only at night. If you walk along beach road they have these wooded sheds they store the umbrellas in at night. They wanted to go right behind it and do the deed. They werent kidding either. And they offerred it only for 400 baht when I pretended like I would do it. I always carried condoms with me in my fanny pack anyway but I never went ahead with it. Too many risks involved in that when my hotel is so close.

As far as black men are concerned I only saw one or two in the five days I was there. I know one of you said they are used to seeing Black men but I just didnt get that feeling at all. It wasnt like China mind you when they NEVER see anyone black. It was just obvious, atleast to me, that it wasnt very common at all.

As far as the airport in Bangkok you couldn't even tell anyone had protested there. It is a very ultra modern airport and very efficient. I found it to be actually very beautiful and has a nice blue neon exterior look. They need some more stores inside to eat etc but its a nice nice airport...nicer than LAX or Kennedy thats for sure.

I can tell you that after two or three girls you are worn out. I know that many of you are super horny and got a couple of weeks worth of cu* saved up but believe me after three girls you will need a day or so break. I know you are probably thinking "yeah right not me" but believe me guys you cant screw every girl in Pattaya. So have some other things you can do in Pattaya-lion zoo, go to the outlying islands etc. So do some research about other things to do while you are there.

Also-if you like porn there are several sidewalk DVD sellers near the end of Beach Road that sell them for about $1 dollar US. They are of good quality. However dont buy the regular movies. Even though they are a $1 or so the quality is horrible. They were filmed with cameras inside of a theatre-you can even hear the other people talk. I threw away about $20 dollars worth of movies. You have been warned.

Thanks for all the PM's thanking my for my report. If I can answer anymore questions please let me know.

Showdown

MilesToGo
12-13-08, 23:25
......cut....
Also one interesting note. Several of the Beach Road girls offerred to do me right there. This was only at night. If you walk along beach road they have these wooded sheds they store the umbrellas in at night.
....cut....
Showdown

very wise action grasshopper -
A well known ploy often associated with the LB's along some of the darker stretches of beach rd. They will get you down there, while 'occupied' their 'friends' will relieve you of all other goods.

Georgek
12-14-08, 01:03
Hans - so is she truely Leanni Lei ? And all her turn up get to fuck her for free ? Well if its correct, that sounds like my cuppa tea........ fcuking a real live porno star ! :DCome on, do you really think a Filipino American pornstar is going to be found in Pattaya at crazy low cost? The only pictures shown are from 8 years ago & easily found on the Internet. Why - it is not difficult to take a picture. You might get a lookalike, but you will not get Leanni Lei.

Frankypanky
12-14-08, 01:15
As far as black men are concerned I only saw one or two in the five days I was there. I know one of you said they are used to seeing Black men but I just didnt get that feeling at all. It wasnt like China mind you when they NEVER see anyone black. It was just obvious, atleast to me, that it wasnt very common at all.

Ok, but that's not a real problem...innit, Showdown?!? When I was in LOS, there were a lot of Black men...Maybe "they" got fired? You know...in time of crisis, 'colored people' are the first to go... :roll:


I can tell you that after two or three girls you are worn out. I know that many of you are super horny and got a couple of weeks worth of cu* saved up but believe me after three girls you will need a day or so break. I know you are probably thinking "yeah right not me" but believe me guys you cant screw every girl in Pattaya. So have some other things you can do in Pattaya-lion zoo, go to the outlying islands etc. So do some research about other things to do while you are there.

Of course you went sightseeing! The first time I went to LOS, I was about 24 y.o. and in top shape!!! Still I needed to take a break! Now I am 35...guess how breathtaking LOS would be for me... :D
It is supposed to be a holiday, with a nice f*ck from time to time.
Showdown

But the most important thing is....ENJOY your stay in LOS...To bad about the 'big asses Thai G.I.'... :D

El Minetero
12-14-08, 05:27
For good DVDs of movies, go to the 4th floor of Tuk Com, and tell them you don't want 'camera in the movie', you only want good quality. They'll tell you which ones are not up to standard. 100-120 baht each.

KT

Cunning Stunt
12-14-08, 07:20
Also one interesting note. Several of the Beach Road girls offerred to do me right there...
Showdown

Never been offered that before – dogging on Pattaya Beach. Sounds a bit high risk for me but I guess some guys would get a big kick out of it.



They need some more stores inside to eat etc but its a nice nice airport...nicer than LAX or Kennedy thats for sure.
Showdown

If you love Thai food (as I do), you could do no worse than try the coupon self service place which is, I think, near the Bangkok bus departure point in between departures and arrivals. Its really for airport staff but like the similar place at the old Don Muang airport, they don’t mind if passengers eat there. It is cheap, there is a wide choice of dishes and the food is delicious.



Also-if you like porn there are several sidewalk DVD sellers near the end of Beach Road that sell them for about $1 dollar US. They are of good quality. However dont buy the regular movies. Even though they are a $1 or so the quality is horrible. They were filmed with cameras inside of a theatre-you can even hear the other people talk. I threw away about $20 dollars worth of movies. You have been warned.
Showdown

Amazes me how these guys stay in business, these days. Anyone with a laptop and a wi-fi connection can bittorrent download top quality copies of anything these days. When I was ‘on the road’ recently I was downloading episodes of British soaps, hours after they were screened in UK (OK I know its sad but I'm hooked on 'Corrie').

GregLondon
12-16-08, 17:35
I'm due to arrive Dec 31. Last year rooms were 99.9% booked from about Dec 20 -Jan 6. Should I expect the same this year or have the various disturbances reduced trade so that this year finding a decent room with wifi shouldn't be impossible even on New years Eve?

ThaiLearner
12-16-08, 20:35
I'm due to arrive Dec 31. Last year rooms were 99.9% booked from about Dec 20 -Jan 6. Should I expect the same this year or have the various disturbances reduced trade so that this year finding a decent room with wifi shouldn't be impossible even on New years Eve?


Why go looking for a hotel room when you arrive when you can do better things and have fun why waste time . I know alot of people who are going over Christmas and new year.

El Culion
12-16-08, 21:32
I'm due to arrive Dec 31. Last year rooms were 99.9% booked from about Dec 20 -Jan 6. Should I expect the same this year or have the various disturbances reduced trade so that this year finding a decent room with wifi shouldn't be impossible even on New years Eve?
Don't go there without having made a reservation!
I'm arriving in LOS on 3 January and I've been spending all Sunday making calls to hotels in Pattaya without any avail.
There are still rooms available in the more expensive hotels but since I'll be away for 3 months I'm stuck to budget accommodation.
That's why I'll just continue on to Isaan where finding hotel rooms is no problem.
Normally things return to normal after the first weekend of the New Year (5 Jan)

Randsurfer
12-16-08, 21:34
0. I'm not a newbie or an oldbie, somewhere in between.

1. Shitload of Russian tourists, Russian mafia pimps, Russian mafia *****s. Actually I don't know anything about the Russian mafia but I assume where the money is, they are.

2. First time here during "high" season, but there are less people than my previous low-season trips so that should give an idea about how tourist numbers are down.

3. There really are a lot of beautiful women here. Not to put anyone down, but when I see some of the pictures of guys' "dreamgirls", I wonder why they accept pudgy bodies, saggy tits, and stretch marks.

For example, Tonight I strolled along the beach and saw many good looking girls and about 5 stunning girls, as in perfect from hair, to face, to body. Every stunner was ready to go. I took one back to my room after agreeing on 500 baht short time.

In addition to being a perfect looker, she performed expertly, was fun to talk to, and I fucked her for 2 hours with some resting, talking, laughing, mixed in.

4. I'm sorry I don't have a camera, and my cell phone is the cheapest kind around. I hope to do better next time.

5. Soi Buah Kaow (spelling? ) Is a nice road to cruise to see a good number of good looking girls, both in bars and walking along the street.

6. Since I've been here, by far my best sessions have been with freelancers from the beach, and always 500 baht short time.

They consistently try very hard to please. In my experience, they far outperform their "professional" sisters who work in the bars.

7. Again no offense, but if you had only the Pattaya population to go by, you would think the caucasian race is just the ugliest ever to populate the earth, and nearly every farang comes with a beach ball implanted in his abdomen.

8. Pattaya is a great place to just walk around. Because of this, it is also a great place to get a daily foot massage.

9. The food court in the bottom of Carrefour is a great place to eat. I had two meals and a coke for 80 baht.

10. Many hotels (even low cost ones) and restaurants now offer free wi-fi.

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Warbucks
12-17-08, 04:00
0. I'm not a newbie or an oldbie, somewhere in between.


3. There really are a lot of beautiful women here. Not to put anyone down, but when I see some of the pictures of guys' "dreamgirls", I wonder why they accept pudgy bodies, saggy tits, and stretch marks.



...I agree with you 100 percent. Some guys fly half way around the world to fuck hags. Lot of hags back home....

And here is the fucked up part in the west hags will pay YOU for fucking them not the other way around :confused:

Cactus J
12-17-08, 12:14
I am in Pattaya, my hotel has no rooms for 2 days, Dec 30 and 31. Tried 2 places, finally got Inn House on Soi 13 for 1450 b which is way overpriced but I took it because there was nothing else below 2500b.

Cactus J

David 2
12-17-08, 21:09
[QUOTE=Randsurfer]9. The food court in the bottom of Carrefour is a great place to eat. I had two meals and a coke for 80 baht.QUOTE]I'm not familiar with Carrefour, and even though I did a search I can't find it. Appreciate the info on the locale.

Thanks

Belmont
12-18-08, 03:28
Carrefour is located on Pattaya cental road.


[QUOTE=Randsurfer]9. The food court in the bottom of Carrefour is a great place to eat. I had two meals and a coke for 80 baht.QUOTE]I'm not familiar with Carrefour, and even though I did a search I can't find it. Appreciate the info on the locale.

Thanks

WeaverWorld
12-18-08, 07:00
0. I'm not a newbie or an oldbie, somewhere in between.My experience with the beach girls is that they are working there because they are "unemployable" elsewhere.

Why would stunners work but not work "inhouse" for more cash?

Hope you used protection at all times bro.

Michi
12-18-08, 15:43
Hi,

Reading here I get the message hih season business is like normal.

"talking to some girls all of them tell me " high season, but same same low season"

What is the truth now? Will find out anyway end of next week, but would like to know in advance to not be disappointed.

Rgds,

Mike

LittleBigMan
12-19-08, 00:42
Michi,

What the girls are referring to is ... this time of the year it is normally high season but maybe due to the economy and the airport being shut down many tourist have canceled their plans to visit Thailand this holiday season. Thus you are getting the line ... same as low season although it's suppose to be high season. Don't worry go more girls for you if you're there!

LBM

Randsurfer
12-19-08, 06:50
Weaver World wrote:

"My experience with the beach girls is that they are working there because they are "unemployable" elsewhere.

Why would stunners work but not work "inhouse" for more cash? "

Interesting theory, what do you mean by "unemployable"? Looks, attitude, disease? I'm sure the various bars are loaded with sub-standard types. Hard to imagine a girl can be "unemployable" in Pattaya.

My limited experience talking with these freelancers is that they prefer that method for exactly that reason, the are free to do as they like.

The latest beach road girl I was with (who I enjoyed a second time, and have spent some "other" time with), says she has the option of working at a go go on walking street but doesn't really like it. She does a whole variety of other things with her day, besides the few hours she spends at the beach at night.

Of course many of the beach girls have other regular jobs or other obligations so the beach scene for them is a second job that fits there schedule but doesn't commit them to the control of the bar owner.

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Randsurfer
12-19-08, 06:53
To eleborate on the Carrefour location:

If you are coming from the beach direction, travel East on Cental Pattaya Road.

Just after you pass 3rd road you will see Carrefour on your left

Betong
12-19-08, 11:59
Not to put anyone down, but when I see some of the pictures of guys' "dreamgirls", I wonder why they accept pudgy bodies, saggy tits, and stretch marks.I think it's the same reason the bars employ these girls -- a certain number of guys actually feel more comfortable with (let's be polite) non-babes. Low self-esteem, I guess.

Chillz
12-19-08, 18:54
0. I'm not a newbie or an oldbie, somewhere in between.

3. There really are a lot of beautiful women here. Not to put anyone down, but when I see some of the pictures of guys' "dreamgirls", I wonder why they accept pudgy bodies, saggy tits, and stretch marks.

For example, Tonight I strolled along the beach and saw many good looking girls and about 5 stunning girls, as in perfect from hair, to face, to body. Every stunner was ready to go. I took one back to my room after agreeing on 500 baht short time.

In addition to being a perfect looker, she performed expertly, was fun to talk to, and I fucked her for 2 hours with some resting, talking, laughing, mixed in.I notice you're using a lot of words like "stunner" and "perfect". Dude, not every guy uses the same scale as you. For whatever reason, people don't like the same things. Maybe their definition of "perfect" either doesn't exist or prioritizes other things. Who knows why Hugh Grant fucked Divine Brown when he had Liz hurley waiting at home. We're not all motivated by the same desires. Get a clue.

David 2
12-19-08, 19:33
To eleborate on the Carrefour location:

If you are coming from the beach direction, travel East on Cental Pattaya Road.

Just after you pass 3rd road you will see Carrefour on your leftThanks for the location. I see it on the map, and I see that it's a giant building, but I can't tell what it is. Is it a grocery store? Home center?

I've been to Pattaya twice and thought I'd seen everything, but I clearly missed this place. It looks very interesting.

Thx

Lucabkk
12-19-08, 22:34
0. I'm not a newbie or an oldbie, somewhere in between.

1. Shitload of Russian tourists, Russian mafia pimps, Russian mafia *****s. Actually I don't know anything about the Russian mafia but I assume where the money is, they are.

2. First time here during "high" season, but there are less people than my previous low-season trips so that should give an idea about how tourist numbers are down.

3. There really are a lot of beautiful women here. Not to put anyone down, but when I see some of the pictures of guys' "dreamgirls", I wonder why they accept pudgy bodies, saggy tits, and stretch marks.

For example, Tonight I strolled along the beach and saw many good looking girls and about 5 stunning girls, as in perfect from hair, to face, to body. Every stunner was ready to go. I took one back to my room after agreeing on 500 baht short time.

In addition to being a perfect looker, she performed expertly, was fun to talk to, and I fucked her for 2 hours with some resting, talking, laughing, mixed in.

4. I'm sorry I don't have a camera, and my cell phone is the cheapest kind around. I hope to do better next time.

5. Soi Buah Kaow (spelling? ) Is a nice road to cruise to see a good number of good looking girls, both in bars and walking along the street.

6. Since I've been here, by far my best sessions have been with freelancers from the beach, and always 500 baht short time.

They consistently try very hard to please. In my experience, they far outperform their "professional" sisters who work in the bars.

7. Again no offense, but if you had only the Pattaya population to go by, you would think the caucasian race is just the ugliest ever to populate the earth, and nearly every farang comes with a beach ball implanted in his abdomen.

8. Pattaya is a great place to just walk around. Because of this, it is also a great place to get a daily foot massage.

9. The food court in the bottom of Carrefour is a great place to eat. I had two meals and a coke for 80 baht.

10. Many hotels (even low cost ones) and restaurants now offer free wi-fi.

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Ok some ugly Russian lady are here for make money, can see them because they go around 2 or more.

90% are whit tez tour.

Russian mafia. I see them in other country. Beliveme this are normal tourist bye

LittleBigMan
12-20-08, 00:24
David 2,

Carrefour, houses many establishments. First there is a home center call Home Pro, pretty much like a Home Depot ( if you are from the states ), it also houses a Super Market in which you can buy house hold items and T.V. maybe like a small Wal-Mart. There are also many small independent shops throughout the building. There is a food court, MailBox Etc... with Internet, Coffee shop, KFC, Subway Sanwiches, Swensen Ice Cream, M.K. and Fuji Restaurant, Donut shop, etc.....
Go for coffee at 94 Degree and sit and watch the ladies come and go!

LBM

Freeler
12-20-08, 05:17
LBM,

The downside of Carrefour is of course that they are a French outfit.

Pattaya - here and now,

Currently, Freeler is in Pattaya, not doing any P4P at all, since my GF#1 lives here in a nice big house and I am well embedded so to speak. But I did take a walk with her along Beach Road and it was busy. Didn't see mant familiar faces tho.
Apart from GF#1 being here, the other major upside of Pattaya is the temperature. I'd say that now (11.15 am) it's at least 5C warmer than in Korat a couple of days ago. We had the AC going last night, I didn't ever even use a fan up in Isaan in the last three weeks!

Fast Eddie 48
12-20-08, 05:30
LBM,

The downside of Carrefour is of course that they are a French outfit.

Pattaya - here and now,

Currently, Freeler is in Pattaya, not doing any P4P at all, since my GF#1 lives here in a nice big house and I am well embedded so to speak. But I did take a walk with her along Beach Road and it was busy. Didn't see mant familiar faces tho.

Apart from GF#1 being here, the other major upside of Pattaya is the temperature. I'd say that now (11.15 am) it's at least 5C warmer than in Korat a couple of days ago. We had the AC going last night, I didn't ever even use a fan up in Isaan in the last three weeks!Freeler,

You must be an American that hate the French.

I didn't discover Carrefour until 2 yr ago and I been going to Pattaya for over 10 yrs.

They have a great bakery and deli in the supermarket.

The new shopping center will be open soon soi 9 and Beach Rd .

Carrefour is all over Asia but they have a hard time complete with Wal-Mart in China.

Fast eddie 48

Randsurfer
12-20-08, 07:27
I am very picky regarding women's looks, which I guess explains why I don't understand anyone settling on an ugly woman in an area with so many good looking and up.

But, clearly, observations prove, for whatever reason, plenty of guys choose them. My original post was just my observations, obviously MY observations.

My idea of a stunner or perfect, is when I basically can't find a flaw, at least not one of any significance (I am talking physically)

Randsurfer
12-20-08, 16:37
This just happened. I'm staying at the southern end of Soi BuaKhao. Someone had told me of a small hotel I should check out on soi 14, near 2nd road so around 7pm, I decided to walk down there and see if I could locate it.

I had no plans to be with a woman tonight, just going to take it easy, watch Thailand play Indonesia in football, and sleep.

On my way I passed a little restaurant that said it had euro and thai food, realized I was hungry, and made a plan to eat there on the way back. Plus, therewas a pretty cute waitress that I figured would be nice to look at while I ate.

Walking along Pattaya Tai road, heading toward 2nd road, I passed two girls walking the other way, one was ok, and one was very attractive. We made prolonged eye contact (can't hold it too long or I'll fall off the curb).

After passing, I took a look back and saw her doing the same. Pretty typical encounter actually so I proceeded to run the gauntlet crossing 2nd road and a couple minutes later located the hotel I had set out for originally.

I reversed my path, risked life and limb again crossing the street, and proceeded up Pattaya Tai road. A few minutes later, I came upon the same two girls again, the pretty one was talking to a farang, he was standing in the street, she on the curb, he was holding her hands, and looking and talking very ernestly, like a salesman trying to make his quota.

As I was a few steps away, she turned and noticed me, and smiled. I gave a little wink so as not to ruin whatever deal she had going, but as I passed her, I let the natural back-swing of my hand lightly bump her ass. My impression was: very firm.

I walked away, never looked back and went directly to my chosen eating place. I ordered some thai food, and had been sitting there about 5 minutes when the same two girls walked in. For a split second I had the audacity to think, "my god, these girls think I'm so handsome they are stalking me".

My ego was dashed quickly when it was obvious they both worked there. They sat at a table and began to eat the street food they had gone out for. They were merely on break.

It took a minute for the pretty girl to notice me, and then she smiled and laughed.

After she looked over a couple more times, I motioned an invitation for her to sit at my table. She came right over, offered me some of her pork balls, which I declined saying I had food coming soon. I asked if she'd like something to drink and she actually squealed before jumping up to get a wine cooler looking bottle.

My food came, I offered her some as she had finished hers. She declined saying she was full. We chatted, the usual, I still wasn't intending anything except try to get her number for another time as she was quite fetching:

Fair skinned, more the classic thai look, not the issan look, although she was from Korat. Taller than normal, maybe 5'4 but in her heels, she was 5'7. Slender body, full C boobs (unless she had a cheater bra on), and lovely skin.

I didn't think she was available, as this was more a restaurant than a bar (I thought), and it was only open from 9am until 10pm, although she did ask "where you going after you eat? ", which is a common hookup phrase I've noticed. When I told her I'm going back to my hotel, she didn't followup with any come-on and just looked away shyly.

We had a nice conversation, her English skill was moderate. As I was paying my bill the lady bar owner/manager came over and asked me a few questions and then came right out and said, "you like her? You want her go with you? "

I said, "I thought she is waitress here, cannot go". Mama said, "if you pay barfine 200, she can go".

To wrap it up, I paid bf, we made the short walk back to my hotel. Her body was everything I hoped for, no false advertising of the boobs. Her BBBJ was very slow and sensual, it just went on and on and was like heaven. We fucked in various positions, but the BJ had been so good, I asked her to finish me that way. She was happy to oblige, but didn't like CIM, but I didn't care.

It was almost 10:00 when we finished, she wanted to meet with her friends for some fun before bedtime, so I walked her back to her work.

Oh, btw, we managed to watch the football game (sort of) during the sex. She was interested in it too, as Thailand was playing. She got excited when Thailand tied the game 1-1 and really excited when they went up 2-1 just before full time.

Anyway, the point of this narrative is the title theme, it really can be effortless.

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Member #3200
12-20-08, 17:20
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My 5th trip to Thailand & Pattaya will be late jan-mid feb & I have watched the new super mall on beach rd & 2nd road slowly/fastly get built when they 1st started last January & again in October, can't wait 2 see the finished project & hopefully it will open on time & for my next trip.

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12-20-08, 22:28
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Daddy07
12-21-08, 01:40
This just happened...

...As I was paying my bill the lady bar owner/manager came over and asked me a few questions and then came right out and said, "you like her? You want her go with you? "

I said, "I thought she is waitress here, cannot go". Mama said, "if you pay barfine 200, she can go"...
That's a new one -- bar fining the waitress at a local restaurant -- and only 200 baht too. Hope you got her number.

I love this place!

Great report!

Goyave
12-21-08, 02:27
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Randsurfer
12-21-08, 03:24
Hey Daddy07,

Despite it appearing to be more restaurant than bar, the owner and staff were more than ready to do the BF, so I'm sure it is normal for them. I just wasn't expecting it based on it's non-bar setup and business hours.

I've heard in Pattaya, anything is possible, so I guess you'd have to go to KFC before you were clearly out of BF territory.

Goyave
12-21-08, 03:25
Since we are talking abt French bashing, try this.
go to google, and type in "french military victories". instead of clicking the usual "google search", click "I'm feeling lucky".

See what you come u with..........Too bad American patriots need the help of their French allies to win their war of Independence, huh?

These bashing campaigns are tiresome, especially those coming from Americans: we used to be good friends in the past and now certain US nationals hate us mostly because France refused to join the latest Iraq war, an illegal war that breached UN Charter (according to Kofi Annan, United Nations secretary general at that time), not to mention that President George W. Bush's administration had very likely deliberately inflated intelligence or lied about Iraq's weapons in order to justify an invasion of this country (the Center for Public Integrity asserted President Bush's administration made a total of 935 false statements between 2001 and 2003 about Iraq's alleged threat to the United States).

That's a pity, isn't it? We should all stop with mutual bashing campaign against one another... And just deal with really important matters here at ISG: girls and P4P related topics!

DG69
12-21-08, 13:15
I am very picky regarding women's looks, which I guess explains why I don't understand anyone settling on an ugly woman in an area with so many good looking and up.

But, clearly, observations prove, for whatever reason, plenty of guys choose them. My original post was just my observations, obviously MY observations.

My idea of a stunner or perfect, is when I basically can't find a flaw, at least not one of any significance (I am talking physically)Well, I have the same opinion like you Randsurfer. I appreciate look before attitude. Will say I don't care if a girl is less good in bed as long as she please my eyes. Also, I don't made the experience that better looking girls provide less fun in bed. Ok, maybe they are less eager to please, because they got alot attention, but if I like a girl by look, I am eager to please her and that comes normally back.

Nevertheless I understand why some guys prefer the less attractive girls. For those whose appreciate inner values more than look, is a less pretty girl the better choose. But, why do they post than her photos?

Junior
12-21-08, 14:52
Hi All,

My first trip to Pattaya is coming up shortly and I have a number of questions. I have the past hour or so reading about 20 pages in this thread, but still some advice would be appreciated.

1: Are there areas where I should not walk at night?

2: Amari Suites looks really nice, but is the location bad? How long would it take to walk to the beach? walking street?

3: Are there regular taxis available from the streets? I do not like the moto-taxis or baht buses too much.

4: Which places currently has the best girls?

5: I am having a very difficult time deciding on where to stay. I would like a nice and modern hotel with good facilities incl. a pool, but at the same time good location and guest friendly. App. 3000baht a night. ideas?

6: What is the right price to pay at the different venues?

7: Any recommendations for golfing ?

Thanks in advance.

If anyone is around between jan 9-15th and in the market for a wingman, drop me a PM.

Member #3173
12-21-08, 15:58
I can answer some of your questions based on my experiences 17+4 nights in 07 and 15 nights this year between the months of July and September.

1. Everywhere is okay to me.

3. Taxis are available on Beach Road particularly.

4. Depends on your taste. Local or Russian can be found in Walking Street.

5. Wow you can spend. For an Asian like me 3000b can cover one day's expenses. Hope you do not spoil the prices for ordinary guys like us.

6. Short time 500b. In go go bar fine alone can be 600b. Long time from 1000b

Take it from me, even 1000b LT are pretty, but they are not everywhere and you have to do some leg work.

Sorry I go to Pattaya next only between Mar 5 and 13. Hope to meet up though I am retired already.

Cheers

DG69
12-21-08, 17:16
1: Are there areas where I should not walk at night? Never made any bad experience in Thailand. It's pretty safe.

2: Amari Suites looks really nice, but is the location bad? How long would it take to walk to the beach? walking street? Do not now about Amari suits, but if I am not wrong it's between central pattaya road and Big C at second road. It's not in the centre of gravity, but not too far from beach road. you can walk through Soi 6 which provides some nice views and at beach road just take a baht bus to walking street or walk along beach road and have some more views, some nice, some not.

3: Are there regular taxis available from the streets? I do not like the moto-taxis or baht buses too much. Forget regular Taxis. Take baht buses, even when it's too basic for your taste.;) Taxis are not regular in Pattaya, so to get one is not easy. If you still insist on you one and only transportation you can also hire a baht bus for you alone.

4: Which places currently has the best girls? The best girls u can find in Discos, like Insomnia, gogos like Peppermint, Happy, or Living Doll agogo, or at a gentlemen club between Soi 2 and Soi 6. Don't remember the name, but something with dragoon, if I am not wrong.

5: I am having a very difficult time deciding on where to stay. I would like a nice and modern hotel with good facilities incl. a pool, but at the same time good location and guest friendly. App. 3000baht a night. ideas??? Try Siam Bay Resort, is on the end of walking street and has a nice pool, or Hard Rock Hotel which has also a nice pool (maybe the best in Pattaya) and nice Russian chicks you might also see there. If you can get one is a question of your approching skill, since those Russians in the hard rock hotel are usually upper class people.

6: What is the right price to pay at the different venues? Beach Road between 500 - 1000 baht ST (depends what you like), Discos between 1000 ST and 2000 LT, ST Bars (soi 6, soi post office, soi 3, etc.) about 700 and 1000 ST (including bf and room), gogos and beer bars 200 (beer bars) - 1000 (show girls at gogos) barfine and than 500 - 2000 ST (2000 is quite much, but depend how pretty the girl is, or how much in need she is and how ugly the coustomer is) and 1500-3000 LT. Gentlemen club and SM clubs like castle, no idea never tried.

7: Any recommendations for golfing ?

Danielson
12-21-08, 17:43
Hi all,

I'm in Pattaya now (21 dec) and will be here till Jan 2nd 08.

Anyone up for meeting up for drinks drop me a line.

Randsurfer
12-21-08, 18:34
Hey DG,

I never wanted to give the impression attitude wasn't important to me. It is very important! But I don't see any reason to make a trade off. Within the pool of good looking girls, and it is a pretty big pool, I then select a girl whose attitude appeals to me and who clearly wants to be with me.

There is still no guarantee her initial attitude isn't a facade, but I have not had any losers yet on this trip using my preferences and selection method.

I can see how in the game of getting money from farangs, a hot girl could get away with still extracting money without providing good "performance".

However, due the "competition" these girls are engaged in (and it is a competitive business), I think it keeps a lot of them (even the lookers) motivated to provide satisfaction to their customers.

Lastly, I've been fortunate to spend time with many girls who definitely enjoy their sex, often to the point where they get caught up in the action and become pretty single minded in driving their way to orgasm. I enjoy watching them have a good time, and a few have apologized for their "selfishness" in sort of forgetting about me. One girl I spent two nights with made the comment: "that two times I come first, sorry".

Bold Focker
12-21-08, 18:39
I had a rear glimps of Michael in Pattaya last week!

Opebo
12-21-08, 19:30
6: What is the right price to pay at the different venues? Beach Road between 500. 1000 baht ST (depends what you like), Discos between 1000 ST and 2000 LT, ST Bars (soi 6, soi post office, soi 3, etc.) about 700 and 1000 ST (including bf and room), gogos and beer bars 200 (beer bars). 1000 (show girls at gogos) barfine and than 500. 2000 ST (2000 is quite much, but depend how pretty the girl is, or how much in need she is and how ugly the coustomer is) and 1500-3000 LT. Gentlemen club and SM clubs like castle, no idea never tried. No, the prices are 300-500 short time on Beach Road. Beer bars should be 500 baht standard. If a girl asks for 700 baht in a beer bar or on Soi Six, don't take her as the service will be guaranteed to be bad. Girls who ask for unreasonable prices (by that I mean girls who try to cheat) also tend to provide bad service.


I have watched the new super mall on beach rd & 2nd road slowly/fastly get built when they 1st started last January & again in October, can't wait 2 see the finished project & hopefully it will open on time & for my next trip. Why would any monger man look forward to another hideoous modern monument to frustrated consumerism getting in the way of our pasttime? I'm quite sure that yet another mall filled with the horror of ordinary people will interfere with our wonderful beach road ladies opposite. The world is full of Americanism. Malls, shopping, and the de-balled drones who wander them. But there is only one Pattaya. I for one decry that tumor in the middle of what is left of our paradise.

DG69
12-21-08, 22:24
no, the prices are 300-500 short time on beach road. beer bars should be 500 baht standard. if a girl asks for 700 baht in a beer bar or on soi six, don't take her as the service will be guaranteed to be bad. girls who ask for unreasonable prices (by that i mean girls who try to cheat) also tend to provide bad service.

well, 300 baht might be possible, but i never got this price. maybe i am too old and ugly.;) or, i am just too picky and ask only young and pretty ones.;) but, the main reason why i don't get a 300 baht st price is that i am pervert. i always ask if anal is on the agenda and than the price ingrease from 500 to about 700 or 800. well, i don't care too much about to pay 4 0r 5 euro more, as long as she has a nice backside. ;)


why would any monger man look forward to another hideoous modern monument to frustrated consumerism getting in the way of our pasttime? i'm quite sure that yet another mall filled with the horror of ordinary people will interfere with our wonderful beach road ladies opposite. the world is full of americanism. malls, shopping, and the de-balled drones who wander them. but there is only one pattaya. i for one decry that tumor in the middle of what is left of our paradise.

c'mon o****, i know you are a pure monger, but there are others like us whose are not able to do 24 h a day mongering. so, in the breaks between the duty, we enjoy the other possibilities pattaya has to offer. so, an additional shopping center will not harm and between the sessions it's a good opportunity to spend some time there.

Fun Couple
12-21-08, 22:49
Guys,

have many of you either been or seen a couple enjoy the night life with the girls at the clubs/bars etc?

Terry Terrier
12-21-08, 23:31
I had a rear glimps of Michael in Pattaya last week!
She looks like smiling would result in either a Medusa-like cracking of her features or her actually becoming quite pretty :D.

Bumholes1
12-22-08, 00:03
She looks like smiling would result in either a Medusa-like cracking of her features or her actually becoming quite pretty :D.

If I am not mistaken this one has been on the Beach Road every day for years and years. Used to carry all her belongings with her! And I have never seen even a glimpse of a smile!

BionicMan
12-22-08, 00:22
This just happened. I'm staying at the southern end of Soi BuaKhao. Someone had told me of a small hotel I should check out on soi 14, near 2nd road so around 7pm, I decided to walk down there and see if I could locate it.
Anyway, the point of this narrative is the title theme, it really can be effortless.

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and...just for the records and the understanding, how much was the present to the girl for giving you her time and skills? :)

Randsurfer
12-22-08, 02:44
Hey Bionic,

Sorry, my report left out some important info.

I am a little "ashamed" to say I gave her 1000 baht.

Price was never discussed, I'm sure she would have been happy if I had paid my standard 500, but I reallly liked her, and basically the extra 500 was a gift to her, a person, not a fee or tip to her, a sex provider.

Next, day I noticed she took the day off her waitress job, so I guess she was enjoying her "windfall".

Twice Divorced
12-22-08, 03:09
Anyway, the point of this narrative is the title theme, it really can be effortless.
Don't you just love those unexpected experiences? I get more of a kick out of them than actually going on the prowl. Another 4 weeks and I"m there.

Jodi In Heat
12-22-08, 04:02
I will be there next weekend, can some recommend a good overall hotel, GF, reasonable price, clean and in the think of the action?

Thanks in advance.

Run Mann
12-22-08, 04:42
I had a rear glimps of Michael in Pattaya last week!
That is actually a frontal view, not that the “rear glimpse” would be any more attractive.

Cunning Stunt
12-22-08, 05:26
If I am not mistaken this one has been on the Beach Road every day for years and years. Used to carry all her belongings with her! And I have never seen even a glimpse of a smile!

You are correct - this is the 'lost' girl of Soi 8 - a quite nuts, poor little wretch who can usually be seen wandering about at the Beach Road entrance to the Soi and has been around, in that state, for ages. Probably never turned a trick in years (but, hey, who knows as this is Pattaya ;)) she appears to get by on the kindness of bargirls, who are very protective towards her.

Amazing though, how she still retains enough vestiges of sanity to turn out with all her slap on, although from the look of it, it is applied with a trowel once a week.

Sad, forlorn creature and it would be interesting to know her story.

Amjeck
12-22-08, 05:50
Why would any monger man look forward to another hideoous modern monument to frustrated consumerism getting in the way of our pasttime? I'm quite sure that yet another mall filled with the horror of ordinary people will interfere with our wonderful beach road ladies opposite. The world is full of Americanism. Malls, shopping, and the de-balled drones who wander them. But there is only one Pattaya. I for one decry that tumor in the middle of what is left of our paradise.
I agree. Pattaya is slowly getting worse by the day. Much more commercial with lots of serious business ventures getting in the way with serious mongering. The good thing, though, is that there are other places in SE asia that haven't been ruined yet!

Lover Boy #2
12-22-08, 07:48
Guys,

have many of you either been or seen a couple enjoy the night life with the girls at the clubs/bars etc?

Other than the swinger scene.....I have seen one couple hire a ladyboy to service both of them on the soi that runs down the north side of the Royal Garden Mall. I also saw a couple on Soi 6 (Kiss Kool) hire a girl inside to do them both..........I had a girl sucking me while I listened to the proposition. I have seen couples get soapy girls for group sex. What are you looking for?

(and of course there is a semi "secret" swinger scene)

Opebo
12-22-08, 10:01
If I am not mistaken this one has been on the Beach Road every day for years and years. Used to carry all her belongings with her! And I have never seen even a glimpse of a smile!

When I first came to Pattaya many years ago I would usually give that one twenty baht whenever I saw her, but I later I stopped, not out of cheapness but just because I've learned it is better to not have any interactions whatsoever with the insane.


Well, 300 Baht might be possible, but I never got this price. Maybe I am too old and ugly.;) Or, I am just too picky and ask only young and pretty ones.;) But, the main reason why I don't get a 300 Baht ST price is that I am pervert. I always ask if Anal is on the agenda and than the price ingrease from 500 to about 700 or 800. Well, I don't care too much about to pay 4 0r 5 Euro more, as long as she has a nice backside. ;)

Yes, if you stick to the young and pretty 500 should be the standard price. Though my hat is off to you sir if you can get anal from the young and pretty, even on Beach Road. I like that practice as well as any man, but do find that while it is redily available from the 30ish ladies, its a rarity from the 20ish ones. Lastly, though I agree 700 or 800 baht is not unreasonable to pay for three-hole service, in my experience the response 'how much you give me?' to any special request, including anal, is usually a sign service will be reluctant or bad. The response the monger-man should look for should be 'Sure, no problem'.

Adelante Siempre
12-22-08, 10:35
I agree. Pattaya is slowly getting worse by the day. Much more commercial with lots of serious business ventures getting in the way with serious mongering. The good thing, though, is that there are other places in SE asia that haven't been ruined yet!

Could you tell us your opinion about the ones that haven't been ruined yet?
Thanks.

Run Mann
12-22-08, 10:40
I will be there next weekend, can some recommend a good overall hotel, GF, reasonable price, clean and in the think of the action?

Thanks in advance.

Do read the Pattaya Hotel thread, this question has been repeatedly asked and answered, most recently on the first few pages of that thread.

Hotman 666
12-22-08, 10:56
Hi all,

I just found out that there is a new provider in Pattaya who has a novel idea for pricing.

She charges by the inch!

Obviously she is much too expensive for me but I thought that some of you guys might be interested in a cheap screw!

Have a good Christmas.

Hotman.

Papae Noel
12-23-08, 00:52
I will be in Pattaya next month, and hope to get a cleaning, maybe get my teeth whitened (coffee stains) and if necessary any cavities filled. One board member recently posted a Pattaya trip report. He was satisfied with the quality of the dental office he found, but I haven't heard back yet from him (PM). These addresses below came from a simple google search. By the way, can anyone tell me what the difference is between the Laser Tooth Whitening treatment and the Cool. Light treatment.

www.pattayadentist.com

88/14-16 Mu 5, Pattaya-Na Klua Rd., Na Klua, Banglamung, Chonburi 20150.
Tel: +66 (0) 3836 7449 Mobile: 08 1861 9681 Hotline: 08 7000 1551
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www.dentalpattayabeach.com

111/57-8 Moo10 South Pattaya Rd.
Banglamung,Cholburi Thailand 20150.
Open Daily 9.00 am - 7.00 pm Tel : 038-724145
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thailandclinics.com

http://thailandclinics.com/dentistpattaya_thailand.htm

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http://www.modernsmiledental.com/

418/9 Moo 9 Central Pattaya Rd. Pattaya Chonburi 20260
Tel. 038-720820, 720688
Open Daily : 10.00 A.M. - 08.00 P.M.

This one also German language

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http://dentalholidaypattaya.com/

27/24 Pattaya second rd. (intersection between second rd. and south pattaya rd.)

Tel 038 - 724244
Open 10AM to 8PM
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There are quite a few more from my one google search. Of course I would be partial to any clinic that has the cutest dental assistants.

Fun Couple
12-23-08, 03:06
and of course there is a semi "secret" swinger scene)Ok, so what is a semi 'secret' swing scene mean exactly in Thailand?

Eagerly look forward to any posts regarding this comment!

Fun Couple
12-23-08, 05:47
Ok I know a few of you will write and say read the posts. But where are the posts on accomodation in Pattaya exactly?

Can anyone please let us know whats worth while and what to stay clear of in Pattaya from very recent experiences.

We thought staying on Walking Street was a great option, walk out the door and right into the thick of it, I love it, but if I am mistaken please correct me with some other/better options.

We particularly like rooms that refresh linen everyday, have a safe in the room, GF (love all the million and one acroynoms on this site, I need a new window just for them while I read all your interesting posts to decifer what I am reading! ).

And something close to the beach if thats possible, I love swimming, so I would like to be able to walk to the beach easily. And while I write that is there any nude beach swimming allowed in Pattaya?

Cheers,

Ms. D.

Lover Boy #2
12-23-08, 07:03
Ok, so what is a semi 'secret' swing scene mean exactly in Thailand?

Eagerly look forward to any posts regarding this comment!

Swinging is not something accept by the Thai police, including the internet censors. There was a very active swing party group in Pattaya about 3 years ago. He moved the club, had some financial problems...and no longer throws parties. They were some of the best swinger parties I have ever been to. The best part was that most of the females were European.....which made a great diversion from Asian....for a couple of hours. Also, these women were not here to talk......it was a great time and I made some great contacts....I have even visited one lady in Spain last year.....and she introduced me to a bunch of friends there...I never had such a great time.

There is currently a party group operating out of BKK....they also have parties in Pattaya every other week. There is an invitation only party in BKK every few weeks that requires an interview. There is also a gang bang club in BKK....that is very invitation only.......1 or 2 females and a bunch of guys......not everyone's cup of tea......but I have seen some female orgasms here that almost shattered the concrete floor!!

So, that's about it for the "semi-secret" scene that I am aware of.

Fun Couple
12-23-08, 07:08
But I have seen some female orgasms here that almost shattered the concrete floor!

Hmmm, reminds me of someone!

Ok so how do I go about finding these people to contact them for an interview, preferably the swingers, I can g/b anytime here in Oz!

Bumholes1
12-23-08, 07:40
There is currently a party group operating out of BKK....they also have parties in Pattaya every other week. There is an invitation only party in BKK every few weeks that requires an interview. There is also a gang bang club in BKK....that is very invitation only.......1 or 2 females and a bunch of guys......not everyone's cup of tea......but I have seen some female orgasms here that almost shattered the concrete floor!!

So, that's about it for the "semi-secret" scene that I am aware of.

So please give us some pointers

Tim Bone
12-23-08, 09:33
Why would any monger man look forward to another hideoous modern monument to frustrated consumerism getting in the way of our pasttime? I'm quite sure that yet another mall filled with the horror of ordinary people will interfere with our wonderful beach road ladies opposite. The world is full of Americanism. Malls, shopping, and the de-balled drones who wander them. But there is only one Pattaya. I for one decry that tumor in the middle of what is left of our paradise.

Let's hope the new mall will be a good pick up point for freelancers at least. Works quite well in other parts of the region.

Street Sleuth
12-23-08, 18:33
I believe there is another thread for places to stay, but my quick two cents:

Booking ahead isn't really necessary, as there are so many choices, and vacancies, given the whole airport disaster (fewer tourists, hotels desperate).

If you really don't feel right just showing up and finding a place, you can check out sanya's apartments - they have a website, something like sanyasapartments.com - search, you should find it. Decent enough place, but not next to beach. Just the same, as I said, such places are a dime a dozen right now.


Ok I know a few of you will write and say read the posts. But where are the posts on accomodation in Pattaya exactly?

Can anyone please let us know whats worth while and what to stay clear of in Pattaya from very recent experiences.

We thought staying on Walking Street was a great option, walk out the door and right into the thick of it, I love it, but if I am mistaken please correct me with some other/better options.

We particularly like rooms that refresh linen everyday, have a safe in the room, GF (love all the million and one acroynoms on this site, I need a new window just for them while I read all your interesting posts to decifer what I am reading! ).

And something close to the beach if thats possible, I love swimming, so I would like to be able to walk to the beach easily. And while I write that is there any nude beach swimming allowed in Pattaya?

Cheers,

Ms. D.

David 2
12-23-08, 19:15
Ok I know a few of you will write and say read the posts. But where are the posts on accomodation in Pattaya exactly?

Ms. D.There is a thread called Pattaya Hotels with all of the info that you're looking for. It''s really quite thorough and easy to read. I've posted there several times, and I think it will give you everything that you need.

Good luck

Fun Couple
12-23-08, 21:39
Cheers S/S,

I have an admission to make I wasnt reading the (my screen) site correctly and have since found the accomodation threads by areas *blushing*, my trouble is I am guiltly of not scrolling down far enough on this laptop I am using because mine died and this screen is smaller.

Just turning up would make me feel uncomfortable without anything booked, but thanks for the heads up, appreciated.

Ms. D.

Judasville
12-23-08, 22:09
You are correct - this is the 'lost' girl of Soi 8 - a quite nuts, poor little wretch who can usually be seen wandering about at the Beach Road entrance to the Soi and has been around, in that state, for ages. Probably never turned a trick in years (but, hey, who knows as this is Pattaya ;)) she appears to get by on the kindness of bargirls, who are very protective towards her.

Amazing though, how she still retains enough vestiges of sanity to turn out with all her slap on, although from the look of it, it is applied with a trowel once a week.

Sad, forlorn creature and it would be interesting to know her story.Story is that she is beaten half to dead years ago by a German punter.

She suffering from brain damage ever since and is looked after by the bargirls.

Spoke to her one time and she was very friendly towards me.

JPF
12-23-08, 22:24
Ok I know a few of you will write and say read the posts. But where are the posts on accomodation in Pattaya exactly?


http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1875

Lover Boy #2
12-24-08, 07:05
But I have seen some female orgasms here that almost shattered the concrete floor!

Hmmm, reminds me of someone!

Ok so how do I go about finding these people to contact them for an interview, preferably the swingers, I can g/b anytime here in Oz!

I have to talk to the owner of the one club first, probably better to PM me. The invitation only club, where the interview is necessary is a separate place. I will ask the guy and his wife if I can give you the contact info first. The gang bang club is just a bunch of wild and crazy guys having a night of fun....if you change your mind on this one....I will give you the guy's info if he says Ok.

(I live in Thailand....depending on when you arrive, maybe I can make some intros for you)

Cunning Stunt
12-24-08, 07:41
Story is that she is beaten half to dead years ago by a German punter.

She suffering from brain damage ever since and is looked after by the bargirls.

Spoke to her one time and she was very friendly towards me.

Interesting J - wondered how she ended up like she is.

Hope the bastard who beat her is still doing hard time in some hellhole Thai nick, but somehow I doubt it.

Mangofan
12-25-08, 15:29
went down to patters last weekend before the xmas mayhem and high barfines took effect. not too crowded, here are a few bar notes:

naughty girls a go go - this place is on soi diamond. avoid it like the plague. it is possibly the most commercial place i've been to on walking street. we walked in, ordered a cheap draft. most of the girls are very pretty, there's one stunner in here with huge tits named oy. came over, she immediately asked for a drink. i obliged because i wanted to take a feel of her gorgeous na-nas, but she downed her drink in one shot (it was a cola) and immediately asked for another one. when i told her no, i was suddenly "keeniow". we drank our drafts quickly and then left.

what's up bar - again, lots of pretty girls dancing here. very commercial. we sat down, and the girl comes over and sits next to us (she was not asked). she immediately asks for a drink. i say no. immediately i am "keeniow" and she tells her friends to avoid us. she then puts her mouth on my crotch and bites down hard on my dick (through my trousers). fucking ***** hurt me! she doesn't seem to care. the mamasan then comes over to us and tells us to move to the other side of the bar so other customers can sit. we grudgingly agree, quickly drink our drinks, and then leave.

babydolls -- great gogo. one of the more popular ones. there are two sweethearts in here who i've taken out a few times. after 1:30 the barfine drops to 300 baht. most girls will go lt for 1500, and st is always 1000. this bar gets crazy after hours. i've seen guys getting blowjobs in the corner from the girls here - they are not shy at all!

windmill -- another great gogo. they've kicked most of the ugly girls to the curb and there are lots to choose from. the barfine is quite high - 700 baht, and 1000 baht before midnight. no thanks. but the draft beer is only 45 baht during happy hour and it's a huge glass. it also opens quite early - 7pm, so it's a good place to start the night out.

coyotees -- very good place, but as i reported earlier, there are at least 2 girls in here who are 16. they have no tattoos, and one has braces. as the night wears on and they get drunk, they will agree to go st upstairs for 2800 baht. the bar seems to have no qualms with this although i have no idea how they avoid the cops, who are usually very strict on the **** policy. anyway, be careful! it's definitely not worth the risk, no matter how beautiful she is!

took a stroll down soi 6. pook bar, which is a ladyboy bar, has a good bar upstairs with normal beautiful girls. they also serve beer laos. starting talking to a few of the girls here - one is 18, so be careful, but there are a few others who are definitely doable. the lady drinks are the most expensive i've seen in pattaya - 150 baht. but the girl i was talking to was cute so i ordered one for her. eventually i asked how much short time was. i was quoted 5,000 baht!!! i couldn't believe my ears. even the girls in the artist bars in bangkok don't quote that much. i just laughed and said "good luck".

El Culion
12-25-08, 17:04
Eventually I asked how much short time was. I was quoted 5,000 baht!!! I couldn't believe my ears. Even the girls in the artist bars in Bangkok don't quote that much. I just laughed and said "good luck".Girls often tell me that when they don't want to go with a customer they quote him such a ridiculous price they are sure he won't entertain.

PauloThai
12-25-08, 21:41
You are correct - this is the 'lost' girl of Soi 8 - a quite nuts, poor little wretch who can usually be seen wandering about at the Beach Road entrance to the Soi and has been around, in that state, for ages. Probably never turned a trick in years (but, hey, who knows as this is Pattaya ;)) she appears to get by on the kindness of bargirls, who are very protective towards her.

Amazing though, how she still retains enough vestiges of sanity to turn out with all her slap on, although from the look of it, it is applied with a trowel once a week.

Sad, forlorn creature and it would be interesting to know her story.

Story is that she is beaten half to dead years ago by a German punter.

She suffering from brain damage ever since and is looked after by the bargirls.

Spoke to her one time and she was very friendly towards me.Hello all

We have so many good stories and experiences with girls in Pattaya, same as she was before.

I suggest that we, when we see her in Pattaya, give her 100 baht,
just as a little help. Just do something, that would be great.

After all we are all humans.... with needs and a heart...!!!

Khop khun khab,
Cheers

Wonderer
12-26-08, 15:31
Hi fellow mongers,

This time, I am coming with a question. I have just tried to book my normal hotel where I always stayed when in Pattaya. They also confirmed, but what they confirmed was something totally different from what we agreed on the phone, and what I asked by email.

Therefore, if they are not going to rectify the mess, I might want to change - even before I arrive. Does anybody of you fellows who are right now in the center of pleasure know about (relatively) decent hotel that has still rooms available? Check-in December 30, check-out January 10. Just give me a hint, and I will call them and check it out.

Thanks for good ideas, and in return, I will post, of course!

Wonderer, soon going to join the wonders of Pattaya

Eric Burden
12-26-08, 15:57
Girls often tell me that when they don't want to go with a customer they quote him such a ridiculous price they are sure he won't entertain.

I have also found (in all mongering countries) that girls that ask more than the going rate have poor performance. The girls that readily accept my offer (usually the going price), say "up to you" or offer a reasonable price up front are usually better performance. I have observed this over and over and never take a girl that asks too much unless I just want her for her looks and do not expect good service.

Why is this so? Perhaps, if the girls don't want to go with you they quote a high price as mentioned or they are real operators and prey on men that don't know any better. Conversely, the girls that like you and are looking for some companionship, sex (and money) are likely to go for the usual price because they really want to go with you. This is my theory...

EB

Dan7373
12-26-08, 18:21
I have also found (in all mongering countries) that girls that ask more than the going rate have poor performance. The girls that readily accept my offer (usually the going price), say "up to you" or offer a reasonable price up front are usually better performance. I have observed this over and over and never take a girl that asks too much unless I just want her for her looks and do not expect good service.

Why is this so? Perhaps, if the girls don't want to go with you they quote a high price as mentioned or they are real operators and prey on men that don't know any better. Conversely, the girls that like you and are looking for some companionship, sex (and money) are likely to go for the usual price because they really want to go with you. This is my theory...

EB
I think there are two basic strategies for girls to make money. One is to go with many different men for a short time with each. And the other is to go with a few men for a long time with each.

The more attractive women can usually make more money by having many men for a short time each. Because guys can afford to pay more, when its only once or twice. And the good-looking lady has no trouble attracting as many men as she wants. It doesn't matter to her whether her man sticks around or not. Because she can always get another man. And that's why she has no incentive to do anything special for him.

But a less-attractive lady usually goes for the second strategy, where she stays with few men for a long time with each. Because attracting a new man is not so easy for her. She ends up without work for long periods of time. And for this reason she tries her best to please the man she has in order to keep him for a long time and make more money this way.

But in some circumstances, such as when there is a shortage of customers for everyone. Good-looking ladies can adopt the second strategy too. Because getting a new man is not so easy even for them, when there aren't that many customers to go around.

It depends on the circumstances which strategy the lady is likely to use.

El Culion
12-26-08, 20:05
Does anybody of you fellows who are right now in the center of pleasure know about (relatively) decent hotel that has still rooms available? Check-in December 30, check-out January 10. Just give me a hint, and I will call them and check it out.Wow, man! You're looking for a needle in a haystack!Those are the most difficult days of the year to find a room. I changed my itinerary completely because I couldn't find a room.

I would advise you to take what you've got and under no circumstance cancel your reservation. Once you're there, check the lay of the land and try to find something else, though I think your chances are slim.

Anyway, good luck!

Jackzonian
12-26-08, 21:09
There is a terrific little hotel called the Viking Hotel, run by an absentee Scandanavian, straight up the boulevard from the Walking St entrance, about a mile or so. I've stayed there a few times and always had a good time. Check it out for a reasonable and very clean operation far from the noise, with a nice little pool. Viking-hotel dotcom I think.

You can rent a 50cc scooter right at the bar for way cheap, too. But the Baht Buses go flying by in both directions if you put a premium on your brains staying in your head.

I don't have any interest in the place.- I just like it. I saw a few posts asking about Patt Alternatives. More later, jck

Jackzonian
12-26-08, 21:17
I enjoy all the posts, but the thing I have learned over the years about the go-go girls in the l. O. S. Nothing is ever quite as it seems. You will never figure things out completely even when you think you have it sussed. She will zig when you expect a zag. Sometimes you're a rock star, sometimes you can't get a date (sometimes you're the windscreen, sometimes you're the bug D. S.)

In the end, it really doesn't matter. You just have to go with the flow and keep it light. The more you try and figure it out, the more confused you can become.

You can get burned once in a while, but generally the fillies are pleasant and agreeable, but they are always in it for dough.- so don't be confused.

Understanding T-girl behavior? . Never really going to happen. Hey, you don't understand you're own wife or girlfriend, and she speaks English and went to the same High School.

Jck

Almotu
12-27-08, 00:49
Went down to Patters last weekend.

What's Up bar.. Babydolls.- Great gogo. I've seen guys getting blowjobs in the corner from the girls here. They are not shy at all!

Windmill.- Thanks Mango for reporting in. I am not familiar with these 3 places, can you elaborate on their location?

Belmont
12-27-08, 04:16
Mangofan,
You hit all my favorite go-go's! Wind Mill, Baby dolls, and What's up are petting bars! Baby dolls has a 200-300 baht bar fine after 1:00 AM-Ilike this and have used it.There is a freak there, resonable looks wise who will blow you for free if you tip her well-I think she's on Ext-sy. Beware the show girls in What's up go for 1000 baht- did that only once.
Good choises.
On Soi 6 try red point bar- always good there.



What's Up bar - again, lots of pretty girls dancing here. Very commercial. We sat down, and the girl comes over and sits next to us (she was not asked). She immediately asks for a drink. I say no. Immediately I am "keeniow" and she tells her friends to avoid us. She then puts her mouth on my crotch and bites down hard on my dick (through my trousers). Fucking ***** hurt me! She doesn't seem to care. The mamasan then comes over to us and tells us to move to the other side of the bar so other customers can sit. We grudgingly agree, quickly drink our drinks, and then leave.

Babydolls -- Great gogo. One of the more popular ones. There are two sweethearts in here who I've taken out a few times. After 1:30 the barfine drops to 300 baht. Most girls will go LT for 1500, and ST is always 1000. This bar gets crazy after hours. I've seen guys getting blowjobs in the corner from the girls here - they are not shy at all!

Windmill -- Another great gogo. They've kicked most of the ugly girls to the curb and there are lots to choose from. The barfine is quite high - 700 baht, and 1000 baht before midnight. No thanks. But the draft beer is only 45 baht during happy hour and it's a huge glass. It also opens quite early - 7pm, so it's a good place to start the night out.

Belmont
12-27-08, 04:21
What's up and Baby dolls on Soi 15. Across from each other. down 150 meters from WS.
Windmill on Soi Diamond again 150 meters from WS.
Explore down all the Sois on Walking street.
Enjoy,

Thanks Mango for reporting in. I am not familiar with these 3 places, can you elaborate on their location?

Daddy07
12-27-08, 04:31
What's up and Baby dolls on Soi 15. Across from each other. down 150 meters from WS.
Windmill on Soi Diamond again 150 meters from WS.
Explore down all the Sois on Walking street.
Enjoy,
What's Up is the only bar in Pattaya I will NEVER visit again.

If you don't feel like buying lady drinks there, the management will treat you like dirt.

Belmont
12-27-08, 04:39
I know what ya mean!
They are expensive! 85 baht a draft, 45 baht across the street.
But the soapy shower, whips(hose insulation)cracking, petting, tequila girl 'COCO' and the energy has given many a good time. Costly BF 700baht standard 100baht Showgirl. good for a stop, not a night.


What's Up is the only bar in Pattaya I will NEVER visit again.

If you don't feel like buying lady drinks there, the management will treat you like dirt.

Stewarsj
12-27-08, 10:03
Just to mention a few: a trumpet player, Thai who is rather short and squat who can really play that horn and who does a great impersonation of Louis Armstrong.

I could've sworn you were talkin about a bj here.

Dan7373
12-27-08, 19:26
I enjoy all the posts, but the thing I have learned over the years about the go-go girls in the l. O. S. Nothing is ever quite as it seems. You will never figure things out completely even when you think you have it sussed. She will zig when you expect a zag. Sometimes you're a rock star, sometimes you can't get a date (sometimes you're the windscreen, sometimes you're the bug D. S.)....
Some of this unpredictability probably comes from the fact that these ladies often have to juggle relationships with several men at the same time. And no lady is going to tell you that she promised to be with some other guy. She'll simply make up some kind of an excuse, which you will find hard to understand.

Daddy07
12-28-08, 03:57
Sometimes when I go to a bar, (Ok, most times), I’m not intending to bar fine a girl for sex, but just want some good inexpensive entertainment, (while always of course, looking out for new talent). After living here in Pattaya for 15 months now, my cup is running over the brim with sex. Four or five times per week is just about my limit now, and most of that action is provided by a stable of regulars who come to my place on call.

Last night I was in a mood for some sleazy fun so I went straight to the Windmill Club on Soi Diamond between 2nd Road and Walking Street. There are elegant bars; there are sleazy bars; and many more in-between, but the Windmill Club is, I think, perhaps the sleaziest bar in all of Pattaya. The place oozes an ambiance of sleaze. I like that.

So I took a seat at the back of the bar near a small rectangular platform with a thick mat positioned on top, upon which two young naked girls take turns whipping each other loudly with soft rubber hoses, while cavorting about spreading their legs, pussies, and assholes wide in simulated sex acts for the entertainment of customers’ who’s faces are only inches away. One old pervert would stand up, lean over the mat and thrust his fingers deep into one of the pussies while poking his thumb in and out the lady’s asshole. All this while the other girl offered her gaping holes to be groped and licked by anyone who dared – and there were more than one who dared. (Incidentally, these girls, some of them quite cute, seemed to love this attention.)

Only a short distance away from my perch, and directly in front of me, is the main stage, where similar sleazy action transpires continually, i.e. 3 or 4 completely naked girls jumping around in simulated sex acts; licking each other’s pussies; humping doggie style; whipping each other; and generally offering their bodies to the customers for physical inspection, probing, mouthing, and close up examination. One **** was on her knees with one end of a pealed banana in her mouth, the other end sliding in and out of her friend’s vagina overhead. Suddenly, out of the pussy came the banana straight into the waiting mouth of a lust crazed customer who promptly bit off the soggy end and ate it.

Not far away is a large bathtub and shower, where even more naked little girls are getting wet, soaping up, and slithering about together, while displaying their private parts spread wide for all to see and touch. Taking all of this activity in at once, I started to get the feeling that I was now residing deep within the pit of Dante’s Inferno. It was intoxicating.

As I sipped on my 45 baht glass of beer, laughing, and enjoying all the sleazy fun, a very cute 23 year old dancer sporting pretty tits a long pony tail came over to introduce herself and sit on my lap. I bought her a lady drink, and soon, she was sliding her naked ass back and forth over my dick to the beat of the music, and my hands were cupping and fondling her perky young breasts to my hearts content. I was re-living all of my junior high school fantasies with this girl and loving every second of it. Every now and then she would turn around on my lap and start kissing me. I took off my glasses and nuzzled her, kissing her face, lips, neck, and tits while softly caressing her lovely ass. Wonderful GFE from a real cutie!

I reached into my pocket, pulled out a 100 baht note and handed it to her. You’d have thought she had just won the Thai lottery. She squealed, threw her arms around my neck, and kissed my mouth passionately DFK. Now, dozens of naked girls were, laughing, teasing and playing all around me, while a cute one was on my lap taking good care of me for the price of 2 lady drinks and a small tip. It just doesn’t get any better than that.

Three hours after I walked in, and completely satisfied, I made my way home.

Total cost for the evening: 440 baht.

ThaiLearner
12-28-08, 12:43
Sometimes when I go to a bar, (Ok, most times), I’m not intending to bar fine a girl for sex, but just want some good inexpensive entertainment, (while always of course, looking out for new talent). After living here in Pattaya for 15 months now, my cup is running over the brim with sex. Four or five times per week is just about my limit now, and most of that action is provided by a stable of regulars who come to my place on call.

Last night I was in a mood for some sleazy fun so I went straight to the Windmill Club on Soi Diamond between 2nd Road and Walking Street. There are elegant bars; there are sleazy bars; and many more in-between, but the Windmill Club is, I think, perhaps the sleaziest bar in all of Pattaya. The place oozes an ambiance of sleaze. I like that.

So I took a seat at the back of the bar near a small rectangular platform with a thick mat positioned on top, upon which two young naked girls take turns whipping each other loudly with soft rubber hoses, while cavorting about spreading their legs, pussies, and assholes wide in simulated sex acts for the entertainment of customers’ who’s faces are only inches away. One old pervert would stand up, lean over the mat and thrust his fingers deep into one of the pussies while poking his thumb in and out the lady’s asshole. All this while the other girl offered her gaping holes to be groped and licked by anyone who dared – and there were more than one who dared. (Incidentally, these girls, some of them quite cute, seemed to love this attention.)

Only a short distance away from my perch, and directly in front of me, is the main stage, where similar sleazy action transpires continually, i.e. 3 or 4 completely naked girls jumping around in simulated sex acts; licking each other’s pussies; humping doggie style; whipping each other; and generally offering their bodies to the customers for physical inspection, probing, mouthing, and close up examination. One **** was on her knees with one end of a pealed banana in her mouth, the other end sliding in and out of her friend’s vagina overhead. Suddenly, out of the pussy came the banana straight into the waiting mouth of a lust crazed customer who promptly bit off the soggy end and ate it.

Not far away is a large bathtub and shower, where even more naked little girls are getting wet, soaping up, and slithering about together, while displaying their private parts spread wide for all to see and touch. Taking all of this activity in at once, I started to get the feeling that I was now residing deep within the pit of Dante’s Inferno. It was intoxicating.

As I sipped on my 45 baht glass of beer, laughing, and enjoying all the sleazy fun, a very cute 23 year old dancer sporting pretty tits a long pony tail came over to introduce herself and sit on my lap. I bought her a lady drink, and soon, she was sliding her naked ass back and forth over my dick to the beat of the music, and my hands were cupping and fondling her perky young breasts to my hearts content. I was re-living all of my junior high school fantasies with this girl and loving every second of it. Every now and then she would turn around on my lap and start kissing me. I took off my glasses and nuzzled her, kissing her face, lips, neck, and tits while softly caressing her lovely ass. Wonderful GFE from a real cutie!

I reached into my pocket, pulled out a 100 baht note and handed it to her. You’d have thought she had just won the Thai lottery. She squealed, threw her arms around my neck, and kissed my mouth passionately DFK. Now, dozens of naked girls were, laughing, teasing and playing all around me, while a cute one was on my lap taking good care of me for the price of 2 lady drinks and a small tip. It just doesn’t get any better than that.

Three hours after I walked in, and completely satisfied, I made my way home.

Total cost for the evening: 440 baht.

This is one of my favourite gogos just the way i like it

Mimonger
12-28-08, 15:38
I have stayed here in the past and was wondering if it is still around and what the daily rate is now? I am looking at a trip in Feb. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Wonderer
12-28-08, 20:49
Thanks, El Culion. That's actually what I finally did. In fact, the hotel came back and felt sorry for a frequent guest in the past. As an apology, they offered me one of their best rooms for the low season price. Which I gladly accepted. So, fortunately, the problem is solved.

Wonderer


Wow, man! You're looking for a needle in a haystack!Those are the most difficult days of the year to find a room. I changed my itinerary completely because I couldn't find a room.

I would advise you to take what you've got and under no circumstance cancel your reservation. Once you're there, check the lay of the land and try to find something else, though I think your chances are slim.

Anyway, good luck!

Professor 1
12-28-08, 20:49
Sometimes when I go to a bar, (Ok, most times), I’m not intending to bar fine a girl for sex, but just want some good inexpensive entertainment, (while always of course, looking out for new talent). After living here in Pattaya for 15 months now, my cup is running over the brim with sex. Four or five times per week is just about my limit now, and most of that action is provided by a stable of regulars who come to my place on call.

Last night I was in a mood for some sleazy fun so I went straight to the Windmill Club on Soi Diamond between 2nd Road and Walking Street. There are elegant bars; there are sleazy bars; and many more in-between, but the Windmill Club is, I think, perhaps the sleaziest bar in all of Pattaya. The place oozes an ambiance of sleaze. I like that.

So I took a seat at the back of the bar near a small rectangular platform with a thick mat positioned on top, upon which two young naked girls take turns whipping each other loudly with soft rubber hoses, while cavorting about spreading their legs, pussies, and assholes wide in simulated sex acts for the entertainment of customers’ who’s faces are only inches away. One old pervert would stand up, lean over the mat and thrust his fingers deep into one of the pussies while poking his thumb in and out the lady’s asshole. All this while the other girl offered her gaping holes to be groped and licked by anyone who dared – and there were more than one who dared. (Incidentally, these girls, some of them quite cute, seemed to love this attention.)

Only a short distance away from my perch, and directly in front of me, is the main stage, where similar sleazy action transpires continually, i.e. 3 or 4 completely naked girls jumping around in simulated sex acts; licking each other’s pussies; humping doggie style; whipping each other; and generally offering their bodies to the customers for physical inspection, probing, mouthing, and close up examination. One **** was on her knees with one end of a pealed banana in her mouth, the other end sliding in and out of her friend’s vagina overhead. Suddenly, out of the pussy came the banana straight into the waiting mouth of a lust crazed customer who promptly bit off the soggy end and ate it.

Not far away is a large bathtub and shower, where even more naked little girls are getting wet, soaping up, and slithering about together, while displaying their private parts spread wide for all to see and touch. Taking all of this activity in at once, I started to get the feeling that I was now residing deep within the pit of Dante’s Inferno. It was intoxicating.

As I sipped on my 45 baht glass of beer, laughing, and enjoying all the sleazy fun, a very cute 23 year old dancer sporting pretty tits a long pony tail came over to introduce herself and sit on my lap. I bought her a lady drink, and soon, she was sliding her naked ass back and forth over my dick to the beat of the music, and my hands were cupping and fondling her perky young breasts to my hearts content. I was re-living all of my junior high school fantasies with this girl and loving every second of it. Every now and then she would turn around on my lap and start kissing me. I took off my glasses and nuzzled her, kissing her face, lips, neck, and tits while softly caressing her lovely ass. Wonderful GFE from a real cutie!

I reached into my pocket, pulled out a 100 baht note and handed it to her. You’d have thought she had just won the Thai lottery. She squealed, threw her arms around my neck, and kissed my mouth passionately DFK. Now, dozens of naked girls were, laughing, teasing and playing all around me, while a cute one was on my lap taking good care of me for the price of 2 lady drinks and a small tip. It just doesn’t get any better than that.

Three hours after I walked in, and completely satisfied, I made my way home.

Total cost for the evening: 440 baht.

Now, Daddy07 can tell a story. I think that I have now made-up my mind for my next trip, and I want Daddy to be the tour guide. :)

Tomling
12-28-08, 23:19
Sure, the Nova Lodge is still open. About one week ago I left the hotel having stayed 26 nights in a good room.

I came directly from the Majestic Grande in Bangkok, but I can say that I was happy with everything at the Nova Lodge. The clue is that you must find a good room in this hotel built in the 1960ies and not that well maintaned.

The hotel has many rooms in a bad condition. Be sure to have a room in a good condition. A guy I got in contact with changed room three times until they gave him a good room.

As far as I remember the rate for a standard room, including breakfast buffet for two persons, is 1 300 baht.

The location is excellent. Near Tops supermarket, near Savoey seefood restaurant, close to the freelancers at Beach road and near the bars in soi 7 and 8. A few minutes by bahtbus to Walking street. A bahtbus in the other direction brings you to soi 6.

I enjoy swimming for exercise. The nice tropical garden with the 30 meter long swimming pool is the best I can find for the rate I had. I had a special price because I stayed long time.

If you get a good room you enjoy the atmosphere and charms of this hotel.

The information I received from the staff was that the Nova Lodge will close in a couple of months, I think after Songhkran. After a huge renovation it will open again with a new management.

Yes, I am aware of that there is a Pattaya hotel thread.

Tom Ling

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Tiger 888
12-29-08, 02:23
This is one of my favourite gogos just the way i like itThis one and the last gogo on the right hand side in soi 15. I forgot the name but it is something with Dolls in its name.

Mangofan
12-29-08, 02:28
This one and the last gogo on the right hand side in soi 15. I forgot the name but it is something with Dolls in its name.

Babydolls -- best gogo, IMO. I've barfined 2 stunners from there and there are about 5 more that I need to get into my bed. There's one girl from there that I've taken about 5 times -- she's simply amazing.

Windmill puts me off because of the high barfine - 700 baht, and 1000 baht before 12 am. No fucking way am I paying that. Especially since Babydolls is 300 baht barfine after 1:30.

Belmont
12-29-08, 03:56
Hope it doesn't get over run w/ all the attention!

Harikke
12-29-08, 09:06
Hello,

I have been in Pattaya for 2 weeks now, and since I am a newbi I have to say that the life and girls are impressive here!

I am living at Tim Boutique which is really nice, and no problems bringing the girls in.

But since I am such a pervert, I am trying to find some girls that offer more than ordinary sex.

Does anyone have some names for girls who agrees to be filmed, humiliated, pissed on, gagged, slapped, fisted, hard anal, rimming and so on...?

I understand this is not easy to find and probably more expensive, but hopefully some of you guys can help me out.

I am here alone, so if anyone are interested in having some fun together with some girls, feel free to say so:)

H

DG69
12-29-08, 22:33
Does anyone have some names for girls who agrees to be filmed, humiliated, pissed on, gagged, slapped, fisted, hard anal, rimming and so on...?

I understand this is not easy to find and probably more expensive, but hopefully some of you guys can help me out.

I am here alone, so if anyone are interested in having some fun together with some girls, feel free to say so:)

H

Not sure about fisting, pissing and so on, but BDSM some can find at the castle. It's somewhere near 3rd road. There is a disco opposite, I think the name is Hollywood, but I am not sure. Just use the search function.
I was once in the castle, entrance fee is 900 baht, which includes the first drink.
Never, did more than see the show, but you can play with the girls inside the club, or barfine her. Though I had tried in BKK's Barbar bar on Patpong soi 2. It's similar the castle in Pataya. I spanked and fcuked one girl anally, there. They had rooms upstairs and the price was about 2000 Baht st.

ThaiLearner
12-30-08, 00:29
Hello,

I have been in Pattaya for 2 weeks now, and since I am a newbi I have to say that the life and girls are impressive here!

I am living at Tim Boutique which is really nice, and no problems bringing the girls in.

But since I am such a pervert, I am trying to find some girls that offer more than ordinary sex.

Does anyone have some names for girls who agrees to be filmed, humiliated, pissed on, gagged, slapped, fisted, hard anal, rimming and so on...?

I understand this is not easy to find and probably more expensive, but hopefully some of you guys can help me out.

I am here alone, so if anyone are interested in having some fun together with some girls, feel free to say so:)

H


Try the hell club for anal and rimming.

Or you could just ask the girls

Thunderdome
12-30-08, 04:05
I want to thank you guys for all the info. Makes me smile. Mostly because all my friends say I am crazy for going to Thailand this year. All the reports say tourism is so slow now. Its just good news for me to hear there are fun places to find ladies in this new slowdown. Thanks again.

See you in Pattaya in 3 weeks. For god's sake, I'm still in the snow!

Billy Baht
12-30-08, 04:43
Last night I was in a mood for some sleazy fun so I went straight to the Windmill Club on Soi Diamond between 2nd Road and Walking Street. There are elegant bars; there are sleazy bars; and many more in-between, but the Windmill Club is, I think, perhaps the sleaziest bar in all of Pattaya. The place oozes an ambiance of sleaze. I like that.


Agreed, Wind Mill is a great bar; my only complaint is that its usually too crowded, LOL!

All things considered still a lot of people in Pattaya...

Lover Boy #2
12-30-08, 06:54
Not sure about fisting, pissing and so on, but BDSM some can find at the castle. It's somewhere near 3rd road. There is a disco opposite, I think the name is Hollywood, but I am not sure. Just use the search function.
I was once in the castle, entrance fee is 900 baht, which includes the first drink.
Never, did more than see the show, but you can play with the girls inside the club, or barfine her. Though I had tried in BKK's Barbar bar on Patpong soi 2. It's similar the castle in Pataya. I spanked and fcuked one girl anally, there. They had rooms upstairs and the price was about 2000 Baht st.

It's across from Xcyte and next to Buffalo Bar....on Third Rd.

Jodi In Heat
12-30-08, 10:21
I am here alone, so if anyone are interested in having some fun together with some girls, feel free to say so:)

H[/QUOTE]Hey, I'm here alone too and would love to have some group banging, get rough with some girls. Let me know. I am staying at Eastiny on Soi 7. Let me know when and where you would like to meet. I do not think I have PM access here.

Donnylad
12-30-08, 14:55
Hi there. I regret to have to do this, but I feel it's my duty. I want to first of all say that there is no record of this person having accessed this forum since I issued my warning to them by PM.

It is regarding the monger known as 'Showdown'. Basically, after his wonderful review of Pattaya earlier this month, I engaged him by PM with interest in sharing videos with him. He suggested I open a free sharing facility account, which I did. I then sent him a couple of vids via this and he assured me he would send some back for me. Over the next few days, he made a couple of excuses that his girlfriend was around etc. After a good week, I said that if I had not heard from him within 2 days, I would view him as a fraud and post a warning here. Needless to say I have not heard a thing, despite giving him my e-mail address also.

As I said earlier, it is possible that for whatever reason, he has not been able to access a computer since I sent my warning to him. If that is the case, then I wholeheartedly apologise for this. However, I urge anyone here who is the same position with him, not to send any images/videos, as it appears he has no intention to share and exchange.

Thanks and apologies again for having to write this,

DL

Papae Noel
12-30-08, 15:28
Donnylad,

Doubt that his report was a fraud. Seemed like a OK fella.

Heck, I just wanted some info on getting dental work done. Hope he is allright. Showdown, can you answer your PM?

Run Mann
12-30-08, 17:33
Donny,

Unusual warning, never knew people here were into trading/sharing images and videos. Give him the benefit of the doubt; he has not logged on here in some time so things may be out of his control. I have a vid of a party on Soi six if you want it but it’s not x rated, it's just wild but you could go to You Tube or MIRC and get much better stuff.

ThaiLearner
12-30-08, 17:54
Hi there. I regret to have to do this, but I feel it's my duty. I want to first of all say that there is no record of this person having accessed this forum since I issued my warning to them by PM.

It is regarding the monger known as 'Showdown'. Basically, after his wonderful review of Pattaya earlier this month, I engaged him by PM with interest in sharing videos with him. He suggested I open a free sharing facility account, which I did. I then sent him a couple of vids via this and he assured me he would send some back for me. Over the next few days, he made a couple of excuses that his girlfriend was around etc. After a good week, I said that if I had not heard from him within 2 days, I would view him as a fraud and post a warning here. Needless to say I have not heard a thing, despite giving him my e-mail address also.

As I said earlier, it is possible that for whatever reason, he has not been able to access a computer since I sent my warning to him. If that is the case, then I wholeheartedly apologise for this. However, I urge anyone here who is the same position with him, not to send any images/videos, as it appears he has no intention to share and exchange.

Thanks and apologies again for having to write this,

DL


Can you tell me what this has to do with Pattaya????

Run Mann
12-30-08, 18:31
Can you tell me what this has to do with Pattaya????

You can ask yourself the same question, like what does some of the discussion in the Bangkok thread has to do with BKK? You showed up about five years too late to ask about thread intergrity, that went out the door ages ago.

ThaiLearner
12-30-08, 18:43
You can ask yourself the same question, like what does some of the discussion in the Bangkok thread has to do with BKK? You showed up about five years too late to ask about thread intergrity, that went out the door ages ago.


I can understand why some of the threads go astray from a certain query on someones trip report and it spirrals from there. Where the other post was just totally random.

Harikke
12-30-08, 19:33
First I will say thanks for all the replies and tips about finding an interesting place to visit.

I visited The Castle last night.

Seemed to me it was about 50/50 regarding slaves and mistresses in there and I got a very nice welcome.

Spoke with the mamasan and she listened well to my desires, gave me a big smile and ended up getting two girls for me, both cute looking.

Rates for the girls are a little higher than normal, but in my eyes totally ok.

900 entrance fee including a drink and then 300 for any additional drink.
Dark and nice place with black dress code.

I spent 6 hours with heavy BDSM with one great acting girl, and the total for the night was 5500.

Will go back;)

H

Amjeck
12-30-08, 20:03
All things considered still a lot of people in Pattaya...
High season is now in full swing. Not quite the levels of last year but certainly lots of people paying top dollar for average meat. It's best to grab your meat as soon as you see something you like and cut a deal or else you'll be home playing with yourself. Now is not the time to bust out your thai language skills as most of the girls will give you the cold shoulder. This is the time the girls maximize their profits on all the dumb tourists. Low season is better for the hardcore mongers.

HealingHandz
12-30-08, 21:00
Fellas I'm making my fourth trip to Pattaya(HEAVEN) Tommorow.

I love the local women...occasionally I desire variety.

I understand that there is a Cafe that offers pickings of Russian beauties for

500-800 baht. anyone have any info on the location?

I am aware of Mixx which has Russian tourist.

but I mean a Cafe exclusively for Russian girls and their gifts?

Thanks

NicFrenchy
12-31-08, 01:28
You can ask yourself the same question, like what does some of the discussion in the Bangkok thread has to do with BKK? You showed up about five years too late to ask about thread intergrity, that went out the door ages ago.

Hahahahaha well said.

Zerocoolbkk
12-31-08, 03:44
Guys,

I am a long time BKK visitor and will be giving Pattaya a try this trip. I have read the forum and have a few places in mind to visit. What would be fun and helpful to many of us would be for you experts to list your top 5 "Can't Miss" places to go in Pattaya. Feel free to make it top 10 if 5 just doesn't do it!

By the way, my personal Top 10 picks for Bangkok are:

1. Angel Witch, Nana
2. Copa Cabana Massage
3. Erotica, Member Club
4. Rainbow 4, Nana
5. Emmanuelle Massage
6. Baccara, Cowboy
7. Caribbean Club
8. Shark Bar, Cowboy
9. Hacthaway (sp) Massage (Thai massage 300 baht, cute girls next to Nataree)
10. Angels Oil Massage (room service)

Cheers,

Zero

Thunderdome
12-31-08, 04:35
It just goes to show that us mongers see things differently than the average soul. I have a good friend who is a nurse in Pattaya. She tells me that things are unusually slow and much less farangs around that there usually is for this time of year.

I'm glad to hear that there are still ladies around. Happy new year guys.

Wonderer
01-01-09, 11:12
Yesterday evening in Pattay, New Year's eve, was pretty crazy. I checked first the Beach Road, but it seemed that at around 19h, the selection was not so good anymore. So, I went to the Kitten Club. There, I met a very prettyand crazy young girl of maximum 20 years. She was very nice, with a stunner boddy. But her tits were tunded up, and this is a turn off for me. I like big tits, but still prefer the small ones, as long as they are natural. Therefore, and since she was a bit hyper-active (what to do with her in the bed, if she is running around all the time?), I decided to go to the next place. I went to about two more bars, before I ended up again in the Windmill Club, which started to become one of my favorites. There, I met my take-out from last night, but wanted some new experience for this new year's eve night. After a while and after drinking with a number of girls, I finally decided for one.

But when I asked for the bar fine, I was shocked. Last night, they already asked for 1'000 THB for LT - but my girl left immediately after the deed. Tonight, the Windmill staff claimed the bar fine to be 2'500 THB for LT and 1000 for ST. But ST means in their own place just upstairs - a definite no-go for me. I tried to discuss with the waitress, and also asked her to check with the boss. But the answer was simply "other bars do the same". So, I asked to talk to the boss directly, but he did not care to come over. On the other hand, as his guest I did not intend to run after him. At the end, there are plenty of other bars around. So I reported to him - through the waitress - that I will inform fellow mongers via the Internet. However, his answer was that he doesn't care. Ok, if he does not need to care (because his place is full anyhow), so then I don't care either. First, I did not take any girl out, and second I inform now you fellow mongers on WSG about thebad attitude of the boss of Windmill Club. It's a real pity, since the club is really sleazy and good fun. But, I believe the attitude of the boss "squeeze all what you can out of the stupid monger guests" should not be accepted. Of course, I am aware that it's all about money. But being ignorant about customers is no good thing. What is your opinion?

I will not go to the Windmill Club, at least during this stay and until I hear better news. If we want to teach the guy some lesson, then I suggest we boycott the Windmill Club for a certain while. This guy needs to learn what a customer friendly behaviour is. I think this should be in our interest. So, if you want to help keeping bar owners down to earth, don't go to the Windmill Club for the next few days. Let's use our buying power, as it is probably the only language that he understands.

So, I went then to some other clubs. Living Dolls asked for 2'000 THB bar fine, but they would allow only ST tonight - also totally crazy and yet another no-go. Gradually, I begun to understand why there were so many mongers without company yesterday night. Only a few are so crazy to pay the crazy bar fines. This is not customer friendly at all. We are all coming here to have fun with the girls and finally to take one (or more...) out. If this is not reasonably possible - due to exorbitant bar fines, we just will not do it anymore and go to other places. Be it other bars that are more reasonable - or other places at all.

After the bad experiences, I went to Lollipop and found a nice, yet a bit short girl. It turned out that she was still unexperienced and just started her work a few days ago. She had never gone out with a customer so far. Normally, I would decline in such a situation. But given her positive attitude, the willingness for LT, and the (relatively) reasonable bar fine of 1'000 THB, I decided to take her.

We went then for a short late dinner, during which I checked her ID. She looked so young that I wanted to be sure. She just had her 20th birthday a few days ago, so everything was in order, and I was not at risk to end up in a Thai prison.

After dinner, we moved then to my hotel. There, she was a bit shy and did not want to shower together. So, I did not force her. But when she came back from the shower still in her clothes, I was a bit concerned whether she knows what is going to happen. So, I slowly started to undress her and was positively impressed, that at least she did not wear the bra anymore and no panties either. So, she was soon in her full natural beauty. I treated her then with my best talent and tongue skills, first all over the body, and then somewhat more focused on the strategic area(s). She clearly enjoyed, but - probably due to lack of experience - not that much as I had hoped for. Nevertheless, she became a bit wet, and I thought it's time for the main course. I still used some gliding gel, since she was very small and tight. I just did not want to hurt her during the first time with a customer. At the beginning, she was a bit afraid, but then it was ok also for her. But she was not as active as I had wished for. So, after mish, I asked her for cowgirl, which she apparently enjoyed. And she had to be active now. We did it altogether for quite some time, until I came - again back in mish.

I was happy that she stayed then overnight, and we had a good sleep together. It is always nice to hold some firm young tits in your hands when asleep.

So, the experience was quite nice and finally worth the effort. I gave her the agreed 2'000 THB for the LT, and she left happily.


Wonderer - looking for less expensive bar fines

Run Mann
01-01-09, 12:51
But when I asked for the bar fine, I was shocked. Last night, they already asked for 1'000 THB for LT - but my girl left immediately after the deed. Tonight, the Windmill staff claimed the bar fine to be 2'500 THB for LT and 1000 for ST. But ST means in their own place just upstairs - a definite no-go for me. I tried to discuss with the waitress, and also asked her to check with the boss. But the answer was simply "other bars do the same". So, I asked to talk to the boss directly, but he did not care to come over. On the other hand, as his guest I did not intend to run after him. At the end, there are plenty of other bars around. So I reported to him - through the waitress - that I will inform fellow mongers via the Internet. However, his answer was that he doesn't care. Ok, if he does not need to care (because his place is full anyhow), so then I don't care either. First, I did not take any girl out, and second I inform now you fellow mongers on WSG about thebad attitude of the boss of Windmill Club. It's a real pity, since the club is really sleazy and good fun. But, I believe the attitude of the boss "squeeze all what you can out of the stupid monger guests" should not be accepted. Of course, I am aware that it's all about money. But being ignorant about customers is no good thing.

What is your opinion?

So you want mongers to join in your boycott of this club because they wanted you to use their short time room on the premises and you wanted to take the girl off site? These places are all about making money, those on site ST rooms are lot more profitable to the clubs because the girls will return to work much quicker than if they went to their customer’s hotel. I’m sure bar fines will return to normal now that things are winding down.

For some guys it’s a real convenience to use those onsite ST rooms and not take the girls back to their rooms. I have seen other clubs on Walking Street (Naughty Girls/Shark) with on site ST rooms although they may be more flexible with customers. There are more than enough venues in Pattaya for you to get a girl to take back to your room if that is your choice, just move on to the next club. I don’t see a bad attitude from the boss, just a difference in approach between you and him.

Amjeck
01-01-09, 14:28
Wonderer - looking for less expensive bar fines
you came to thailand at the wrong time of the year "peak season".

BionicMan
01-01-09, 17:40
Yesterday evening in Pattay, New Year's eve, was pretty crazy. ....................
Wonderer - looking for less expensive bar fines
Wonderer, New Year usually comes up once a year.
Everybody is taking the chance of making more money working on such an evening, working to entertain people.
I do not see this as a bad attitude.
He did not bother tocome by as otherwise he'll start a precedent (just for the sake of the discussion)
AS you said the place was packed. He was probably more busy in counting his income:)

You yourself said you wanted something special for the special night...
Somehow you were setting the demand vs the offer.:)
Old trade law, as old as the commerce and job being excercised in the place!

Tiger 888
01-01-09, 21:45
...the Windmill staff claimed the bar fine to be 2'500 THB for LT and 1000 for ST...
...If we want to teach the guy some lesson, then I suggest we boycott the Windmill Club for a certain while....
I am with you on the fact that these prices are ridiculous. But as long as there are enough BSD's out there paying them, you are sitting on the shorter side of the seesaw. The only thing you achieve is freeing a seat for someone who is happy to pay whatever they ask. When too many people pay too high prices that is called inflation. Nothing can you do about it. sit there, sip your beer, watch the show and tell them that it is too expensive. If you can, bring as many friends as possible to do the same.

Almotu
01-01-09, 22:06
Last night I was in a mood for some sleazy fun so I went straight to the Windmill Club on Soi Diamond between 2nd Road and Walking Street. There are elegant bars; there are sleazy bars; and many more in-between, but the Windmill Club is, I think, perhaps the sleaziest bar in all of Pattaya.

Three hours after I walked in, and completely satisfied, I made my way home. Total cost for the evening: 440 baht. Daddy: This sounds like my kind of bar! Wow. I will take your word for it that the girls are cute. From your description. I like the full on sexuality. I like the low pressure to buy LDs. And the girls actually want to be BF'd? Many times at places like Angelwitch, the girls are more interested in doing the show than actually going with a customer.

Last year, I went to Sisterz and IMHO it was one of the sleazier places that I have been to in Pattaya but the talent was terrible. Would you say that this go-go is always like this or do you think the recent low tourist turnout made them up the ante? I'm not sure when in 2009 I will make it back to Pattaya but I will make a mental note about this go-go.

Papae Noel
01-01-09, 22:26
Wonderer make you a deal. I will not barfine anyone when I go there on Jan 4, my fiirst night in Pattaya. In fact I may stop in again Jan 5 and 6 also and will not barfine anyone. If I see someone I want I will wait until my last 5 nights. Fair enough? In return how acout you telling us all about the sleazy show at Windmill. Whatdya say?

Belmont
01-02-09, 05:39
Sounds like gouging
I've never paid more then 600bht here.
If all the bars were gouging, what about the girls on Walking street and in the Discos? That is always 800-1500 bht! No bar fine.???
You can start a Windmill boycott, and good luck, it will never work. Maybe it will even open more seats for myself!!



But when I asked for the bar fine, I was shocked. Last night, they already asked for 1'000 THB for LT - but my girl left immediately after the deed. Tonight, the Windmill staff claimed the bar fine to be 2'500 THB for LT and 1000 for ST.

Belmont
01-02-09, 05:57
OK here goes:
IMHO, ALL WALKING STEET
GO-GO's
1) BabyDolls (small place-hands on)
2) Windmill (small place-hands on)
3) Pepermint palace
4) Champions (personal choise-COLD beer, good price, pound a couple beers here first)
5) What's Up? (tubs, whips, etc.-Pricey)
6-7) Tie, Angel Witch and Club Bouche (you know)
8) X-Zone (only reason to walk this far down!)
9) Living Dolls 1 Maybe should be higher on list, good bar fine prices)
10) TIE: SupeR BabY, Super Girls, Paris, Carosel, Sharks, Naughty Girls, and a Dozen others!
DISCOS:
1) INSOMNIA ( after 4:00 AM
2) Lucifers
3) Marine
Beer Bars: ????????????
Don't Know????????????

Guys,

I am a long time BKK visitor and will be giving Pattaya a try this trip. I have read the forum and have a few places in mind to visit. What would be fun and helpful to many of us would be for you experts to list your top 5 "Can't Miss" places to go in Pattaya. Feel free to make it top 10 if 5 just doesn't do it!

By the way, my personal Top 10 picks for Bangkok are:

1. Angel Witch, Nana
2. Copa Cabana Massage
3. Erotica, Member Club
4. Rainbow 4, Nana
5. Emmanuelle Massage
6. Baccara, Cowboy
7. Caribbean Club
8. Shark Bar, Cowboy
9. Hacthaway (sp) Massage (Thai massage 300 baht, cute girls next to Nataree)
10. Angels Oil Massage (room service)

Cheers,

Zero

Daddy07
01-02-09, 06:27
...Wonderer - looking for less expensive bar fines
Just stay in Pattaya a few more days. The bar fines will return to normal.

I complained of this same situation last year. Mick Licker explained that at the peak of high season, including Christmas and New Years eve, when there are crowds of customers, the bar owners don't want the girls to be bar fined quickly and cheaply. It's a sellers market then. They make most of their money on the sale of drinks, especially lady drinks. If all the best girls are bar fined away early, the customers will go away as well, and the bar owners will lose revenue.

Makes sense to me. When the crowds finally recede, competition will return, and the bar fines will drop like stones.

Wonderer
01-02-09, 10:33
Ok guys and fellow mongers. Thanks for all your comments regarding Windmill Club. As I mentioned, I understand the principle of demand and supply pretty well. However, I admit that I was just disappointed on that evening. For my part, I will not go to Windmill anymore (at least during this stay), but that's my personal decision. It will have no impact on their business, as the seat will be filled up by others. I know. But better than to ask for a bar fine of 2'500 THB they should have told me that there is no take out that night. As they asked for such a ridiculous price, I felt pretty stupid.

Nevertheless, as you could read in my report, I found another bar, which was much more reasonable, and the girl was nice. So, competition still works.

Thanks again, and let's close this topic now. I will continue to enjoy all the other opportunities, the place on offer.

Wonderer

Tim Bone
01-02-09, 11:23
We moved in to a simple hotel in Soi Bukhau for 600B a night where another friend was staying on more or less permanent basis, a real full time monger. His main source is the Beach Rd and 500 B ST. He has a budget to keep.
First evening we took a walk along Beach Rd, and I have to say the activity there was much higher than what it was on my two previous visits in low season. Girls were available till very late, but prime time now seems to be about 8 o’clock in the evening.
We had a beer at two of the a-go-go’s open early evening with 55 B beer, but the selection was not good. Later in the evening I took a cute 22 year old from Beach Rd for ST 500 B. After that I went to a go-go which my friend recommended. The name is already forgotten, I think it is airport or something. At least the theme has to do with air travel, the girls are dressed as sexy stewardesses. Most girls are naked and slap each other with some foamy sticks. There is also a good show by two girls in a small pool under a shower. Some of the girls there are really good looking. Didn’t take any though.

The next day my friend gets his girl from BKK to Pattaya since it was the last day at school and the guy who lives there has a sort of “permanent” girl, and she came with a friend which I got a long well with, 23 year old, decent English, from Surat Thani, mother from Isaan though, so you can’t get away from them. Not too great in bed.

The next day we had a Christmas Party with other people of the same nationality. The girl from yesterday shows up, since her friend called her. It wasn’t my intention to take her again, but anyway I did. And she did better this time, but still has away to go. Claims she has never been with farang and I can actually believe it.

The following day we go to the beer bars right before the entrance of Walking street and watch some Thai boxing. The friend who lives in P is playing some bar games with an exceptionally good looking one for those bars, 19 years old. But she won’t go with him. It’s an impression I have that some bars all over Pattaya actually have teasers that hardly go with customers. It looks a bit strange that the best looking girl is not bar fined right before closing time. The two of us walked back to the hotel and we checked out some well hidden beer bars in a complex and there was young and cute one there which he asked was available for BF. Hardly any English spoken and she had to be back by 3, but ST was what he wanted anyway.
I went to another complex near by where I had a beer earlier to see if the girl with the huge tits were there. Actually she dragged me into the bar. I took her for LT. In the room she asked for money upfront and my brain wasn’t turned on. So of course after the first pop she starts to dress, and I ask her what she is doing. After a short argument she turns nasty and threatens to call the police, thinking that will scare me off. And that really pisses me off. So I send her out in the corridor and let her dress there. Maybe a bit childish of me, but she shouldn’t get away with it every time. B*I*T*C*H. I walk her down to the reception and send her out. I tell them I caught her stealing (giving ST for LT qualify for theft). Well well, a lessoned learnt. My friend also had a horror story to tell the next day. The girl was new to scene and had never been with a farang before. She was absolutely inexperienced and even started bleeding. She was crying and sorry for the whole thing and so was he. She only wanted 100B, but he gave her 500.

So for the last day I decided to go for the “regular” girl. Sorry for not having seen you yesterday honey, was very tired. My unlucky friend had also got together with his “girlfriend” again, so all 3 couples went for a nice dinner. I was leaving for Jakarta the next morning, so we went to bed early. I have say that with my training program she has improved and I think I will extend the training next time I come back.

Mangofan
01-03-09, 11:45
Just stay in Pattaya a few more days. The bar fines will return to normal.

I complained of this same situation last year. Mick Licker explained that at the peak of high season, including Christmas and New Years eve, when there are crowds of customers, the bar owners don't want the girls to be bar fined quickly and cheaply. It's a sellers market then. They make most of their money on the sale of drinks, especially lady drinks. If all the best girls are bar fined away early, the customers will go away as well, and the bar owners will lose revenue.

Makes sense to me. When the crowds finally recede, competition will return, and the bar fines will drop like stones.

True - although 2,500 BF is the highest I have ever heard of. And don't expect them to come down right after New Year's - the bar owners usually "forget" to take the signs down until about a week afterwards. Just stay away from walking street during this time. It's crowded, full of nasty touts, and everyone turns greedy.

Wonderer
01-03-09, 14:21
Tim Bone, the bar you mean is called "Air Port Club" and is directly in Walking Street, on the right hand side, directly opposite Soi Diamond. I agree, they have some pretty ones, but I have not taken one out either. Perhaps yet to come.

On the other hand, I can confirm your experience. Many of the beer bars with average to ugly girls have a teaser to attract customers. But they never go with them. I had some disappointment a couple of times, so I avoid them by now. If a bar has a few good lookers, then there might be a chance. At least worth a try.

I also paid a visit to Secrets Bar. They have not the best lookers (though some are pretty nice), but the place is definitely hassle-free and a place to relax from the usual bar stress. The girls tend to be a bit older (though not all), and many of them have given birth, so they have the usual marks. But in general, they compensate with skills and kindness. I had one from there and was not disappointed. Very pretty face, tits and belly with the birth marks, but she gave me an excellent BBBJ, and became totally wet, when I DATY'd her. Very nice LT experience, and also this was hassle-free. We did not even talk about the money. I just gave her the ususal 2000 THB when she left, and she was happy.

Wonderer






...
We had a beer at two of the a-go-go’s open early evening with 55 B beer, but the selection was not good. Later in the evening I took a cute 22 year old from Beach Rd for ST 500 B. After that I went to a go-go which my friend recommended. The name is already forgotten, I think it is airport or something. At least the theme has to do with air travel, the girls are dressed as sexy stewardesses. Most girls are naked and slap each other with some foamy sticks. There is also a good show by two girls in a small pool under a shower. Some of the girls there are really good looking. Didn’t take any though.
...

Amjeck
01-03-09, 14:59
The girls tend to be a bit older (though not all), and many of them have given birth, so they have the usual marks.
How do you get turned on by this? Just curious.

Daddy07
01-03-09, 16:55
True - although 2,500 BF is the highest I have ever heard of...

I returned to the Windmill Club this evening and had another great time with the girls. I asked one of them about the bar fines and was told that they are 1000 baht until midnight and 700 baht thereafter. After January 5, the bar fines will return to 700 baht, slighty expensive for the quality of the ladies, but the normal rate.

I specifically asked if the bar fines were ever in the neighborhood of 2,500 baht and was told "never," so Mr. Wonderer was quite mistaken in his previous report. He must have been confused and was probably given a quote including bar fine and services all in.

DG69
01-03-09, 17:44
On the other hand, I can confirm your experience. Many of the beer bars with average to ugly girls have a teaser to attract customers.

True often it is the owner or girlfriend from the owner who is the pretty one. Some pretty girls who got money from their former Job as bar girl, or whose have rich farang sponsors, open a bar in the hope to make profit. Those girls usually don't leave the bar before it close and those girls have no need to go with every customer.
Well, they might go with customer when the bar runs not good. But, all in all I would avoide such bars.

LittleBigMan
01-03-09, 19:14
Amjeck,

Just curious! I thought his remarks after " usual marks " was self explanatory.

LBM

Westsider
01-03-09, 23:31
the bar you mean is called "Air Port Lounge" and is directly in Walking Street, on the right hand side, not too far from the entrance at South Road.
Wonderer

Thanks Wonderer and TBone, I had thoroughly enjoy this place too, but had forgotten the name. I found the concept very sexy as shown by the photo of the greeters outside the club. Club has three areas: a go-go stage with approx 12 girls, soapy tub with 2 girls performing lesbian acts, and a small stage in the back with the foam tube spanking. A petite hotty named Wan caught my highly trained eye. Because of her very petite body and the fact she had been working this bar only 3 days, I was worried that she might be short on service skills, but I barfined her. Walking back to my hotel she was telling me the shortest route and I began to wonder. Later, upon close up inspection, I began to question her real age. My initial guess of 24 was not even close. She said 33yo and her skills reflected this. A very sexy girl for B1500 ST.

Andix
01-04-09, 00:05
Based on the previous discussions here about bar fine cost during New Year's holidays, I was just wondering if there was any change in the cost of bar fine and ST/LT price for the Super Baby/Girl go-go bars. These two bars last time I checked back in October had fixed rates no only for bar fine but also for the ST/LT cost, which had to be paid up front (before you leave with the girl !!). Not exactely a comfortable position for the customer who is already committed no matter what happens afterwards..
Was wondering if anything changed there.

Wonderer
01-04-09, 11:56
I was not mistaken. I have asked a couple of times and made very clear what we were talking about. But perhaps the owner / boss does not like his own mistake. And he might be reading this thread as well...

Wonderer


I returned to the Windmill Club this evening and had another great time with the girls. I asked one of them about the bar fines and was told that they are 1000 baht until midnight and 700 baht thereafter. After January 5, the bar fines will return to 700 baht, slighty expensive for the quality of the ladies, but the normal rate.

I specifically asked if the bar fines were ever in the neighborhood of 2,500 baht and was told "never," so Mr. Wonderer was quite mistaken in his previous report. He must have been confused and was probably given a quote including bar fine and services all in.

Wonderer
01-04-09, 12:00
Sorry, guys, the correct name is "Airport Club" (and not Airport Lounge). I checked it again, and the bar is located in Walking Street, just opposite Soi Diamond. They have some very pretty girls. BF is 700, and I took one out yesterday. It was (is still) a very good experience. Nice girl, good talent.

Wonderer

PS. I have corrected the name in my original report.

Mangofan
01-04-09, 20:50
Sorry, guys, the correct name is "Airport Club" (and not Airport Lounge). I checked it again, and the bar is located in Walking Street, just opposite Soi Diamond. They have some very pretty girls. BF is 700, and I took one out yesterday. It was (is still) a very good experience. Nice girl, good talent.

Wonderer

PS. I have corrected the name in my original report.

How much are ST and LT prices there? I remember a few months ago (during low season) I asked a girl out front and she quoted me 2,000 baht for ST and 4,000 for LT. No one should be paying those prices.

Mike Asian
01-04-09, 21:36
OK here goes:
IMHO, ALL WALKING STEET
GO-GO's
1) BabyDolls (small place-hands on)
2) Windmill (small place-hands on)
3) Pepermint palace
4) Champions (personal choise-COLD beer, good price, pound a couple beers here first)
5) What's Up? (tubs, whips, etc.-Pricey)
6-7) Tie, Angel Witch and Club Bouche (you know)

Don't Know????????????Did Club Bouche re-open?

Andix
01-05-09, 00:59
How much are ST and LT prices there? I remember a few months ago (during low season) I asked a girl out front and she quoted me 2,000 baht for ST and 4,000 for LT. No one should be paying those prices.


Definitely not these prices.
Back in October I did some barfining at some of the go-gos on Walking St and I took out girls for 1500 baht for LT. I remember one of them was Windmill.
I do believe that by second half of January prices will get back to normal and everyone should try to get 1000 baht for ST and 1500 LT. Obviously there are exceptions ... when the girl is really really hot and you got to have it ... also Super baby/girl is another exception where they (to my knowledge) don't negotiate the price.
Any other opinions here ...!

Esch7777
01-05-09, 03:45
Hi Guys,

I am on my first visit to Pattaya and already spent two nights with the girls.

Still I have two questions:

First question: How long LT really lasts?

One hour, rest of night etc. ? And what about ST?

Second question is about whether you pay the money for the girls upfront or after the service was performed, Had a terrible bad experience, paid 3000 for LT (including barfine) but at my room the service was so bad I asked her to leave the room (which was clearly her goal from the starting on).

Any comments more than welcome

Fattie
01-05-09, 07:01
Hi Guys,

I am on my first visit to Pattaya and already spent two nights with the girls.

Still I have two questions:

First question: How long LT really lasts?

One hour, rest of night etc. ? And what about ST?

Second question is about whether you pay the money for the girls upfront or after the service was performed, Had a terrible bad experience, paid 3000 for LT (including barfine) but at my room the service was so bad I asked her to leave the room (which was clearly her goal from the starting on).

Any comments more than welcomeNever pay the girl til she ready to leave or you will get bad service, Lt means when you wake up and get sex then she can leave, St mean 1 pop up or 2 hours of her time.

Fast Eddie 48
01-05-09, 08:16
Hi Guys,

I am on my first visit to Pattaya and already spent two nights with the girls.

Still I have two questions:

First question: How long LT really lasts?

One hour, rest of night etc. ? And what about ST?

Second question is about whether you pay the money for the girls upfront or after the service was performed, Had a terrible bad experience, paid 3000 for LT (including barfine) but at my room the service was so bad I asked her to leave the room (which was clearly her goal from the starting on).

Any comments more than welcometo ESch7777

This is all newbie question not sure that you know what you want ,for me LT is overnight I always tell the girl what I want upfront ,and same go for ST it depend what the girl ask for and never paid upfront bit newbie mistake .



fast eddie 48

Amjeck
01-05-09, 10:34
Hi Guys,

I am on my first visit to Pattaya and already spent two nights with the girls.

Still I have two questions:

First question: How long LT really lasts?

One hour, rest of night etc. ? And what about ST?

Second question is about whether you pay the money for the girls upfront or after the service was performed, Had a terrible bad experience, paid 3000 for LT (including barfine) but at my room the service was so bad I asked her to leave the room (which was clearly her goal from the starting on).

Any comments more than welcome

The length of ST and LT really depends on what you agree on with the girl. Always pay after!

Passingthru69
01-05-09, 11:12
Hi all,

Well I used to read the ISG often, but been out of the scene the last few.
Anyhow need advice on a good afternoon fs soapy.

Not near Big C ,as the mrs. likes to shop there.

Thanks ahead of time for any replies back

Qiao Han
01-05-09, 11:40
The length of ST and LT really depends on what you agree on with the girl. Always pay after!Long time is all night, from when you leave the bar until late the next morning or early afternoon, when she usually gets up. LT price for agogo girls start about 1500 plus barfine, superstars and stunners of course more. Don't be shy about working out all these details with the girl, just to avoid misunderstandings. But first I like to spend some time talking and getting to know her, buy them a few drinks and trying to work my way into their hearts. Yes they want to make money, but they also want to have a good time with a guy. It's all part of the bargaining process! You pay after. Short time ranges from 500 to 1000, you usually get only one shot. Beerbar and Beach road girls are less.

Mangofan
01-05-09, 12:36
Long time is all night, from when you leave the bar until late the next morning or early afternoon, when she usually gets up. LT price for agogo girls start about 1500 plus barfine, superstars and stunners of course more. Don't be shy about working out all these details with the girl, just to avoid misunderstandings. But first I like to spend some time talking and getting to know her, buy them a few drinks and trying to work my way into their hearts. Yes they want to make money, but they also want to have a good time with a guy. It's all part of the bargaining process! You pay after. Short time ranges from 500 to 1000, you usually get only one shot. Beerbar and Beach road girls are less.


Yep, pretty much the case. Always pay after (when she's about to leave) and negotiate the price up front. Also negotiate what she'll do in the bedroom. I've taken some girls and when I get them back they refuse to kiss, or refuse to give a BJ. If it's a really bad experience (like refusing to do certain things that were negotiated), you can always go back to the bar and demand the barfine back.

If you take a girl for LT, sometimes she will try to get out of the room early but will ask for the LT price - give her the ST price if this happens. Peppermint go-go girls are notorious for this. They think that Long Time means 3 hours, and ST means 1 hour. There are some go-gos in Bangkok that are notorious for this as well. My advice is to read this board and stick to the most popular go-gos with the best girls - Windmill and Babydolls are the best ones on Walking Street - I've never had a bad experience with any of the girls there.

Amjeck
01-05-09, 17:44
Also negotiate what she'll do in the bedroom. I've taken some girls and when I get them back they refuse to kiss, or refuse to give a BJ.
This is a business transaction so get everything sorted out upfront unless you're a casual guy who can go with the flow in any situation. Also, if she doesn't do what she said she will do or if she lied to you ("i'm not a mother", but you see stretch marks), don't hesitate to kick her out of the room, and call her on her lie. I've found that if they've tried to deceive you in any way and you call them on it, they generally lose face and go without any hassles. You're the customer and you should get your moneys worth

Bold Focker
01-05-09, 23:36
Timbone,

I think it is a bit unfare to complain about a girl bleeding, which she has no control over. She had already said that she had not been with a farlang before, i think only goes to prove the point!


The girl was new to scene and had never been with a farang before. She was absolutely inexperienced and even started bleeding. She was crying and sorry for the whole thing and so was he. She only wanted 100B, but he gave her 500."

MilesToGo
01-06-09, 01:33
Hi all,

Well I used to read the ISG often, but been out of the scene the last few.
Anyhow need advice on a good afternoon fs soapy.

Not near Big C ,as the mrs. likes to shop there.

Thanks ahead of time for any replies back

Passing,
the saibaidee on the west side of the road (front door faces BigC) has a entrance door thru the parkade which is accessed from soi 3.


btw:others veterans help me out if this is the right "saibai...." - all three are too similar in name to remember correctly.
was it the orange tiled building?

Lover Boy #2
01-06-09, 04:23
Passing,
the saibaidee on the west side of the road (front door faces BigC) has a entrance door thru the parkade which is accessed from soi 3.


btw:others veterans help me out if this is the right "saibai...." - all three are too similar in name to remember correctly.
was it the orange tiled building?

Yes, Sabai Dee has the parking garage entrance from the back where you will not be seen....I have used it a hundred times!!

Lover Boy #2
01-06-09, 04:26
Hi all,

Well I used to read the ISG often, but been out of the scene the last few.
Anyhow need advice on a good afternoon fs soapy.

Not near Big C ,as the mrs. likes to shop there.

Thanks ahead of time for any replies back

You can try Heaven...on Sukhumvit......just off Pattaya Klong.

Tim Bone
01-06-09, 05:18
Timbone,

I think it is a bit unfare to complain about a girl bleeding, which she has no control over. She had already said that she had not been with a farlang before, i think only goes to prove the point!

BF
I wasn't complaining about her, neither was my friend. He actually felt sorry for her. It's just an objective description of what happened.

Wonderer
01-06-09, 15:34
My girl asked for 2500 LT, and as I hesitated, she immediately reduced to the usual 2000 THB. I assume (but did not verify) that ST is 1500 THB.




How much are ST and LT prices there? I remember a few months ago (during low season) I asked a girl out front and she quoted me 2,000 baht for ST and 4,000 for LT. No one should be paying those prices.

Wonderer
01-06-09, 15:45
A few days ago, I also had a bad experience with a girl from Happy a Gogo. When I met her in the bar, she was smiling at me, and I offered her a drink. She is really a stunner, cute face, very slim, but nice tits. 21 years young and her hair dyed blonde. Soon, we agreed for ST, and she said, she would go only for ST. But due to the enticing body, I agreed to the even pretty high price of 2000 THB. But we also agreed to have dinner first together. So, we went to a nice restaurant and had decent food. The communication was a bit difficult, despite her relatively good English. Basically, she only answered my questions. I had the impression that whe was under pressure.

Back to my hotel room, she took a shower and insisted on taking it alone. When she came out, she said: "you shower, now!". I was on the bed, and it took me perhaps 10 seconds to react (I was actually watching her body). Then, she was very impatient and repeated with clear impatience: "go shower, now!". This was then a bit too much. If she is already impatient at this moment, the sex must be pretty bad and in a rush. So, I told her, if she does not have time and wants to go back to the bar, she better goes now. She complained then a lot about "waste of time with dinner...". I sent her back - of course without paying.

The lesson is clear: I ignored the old rule to chat and discuss with the girl a bit in the bar, before you decide. Then, you find out whether or not she is the hardcore hooker just after your money or the girl who also wants to please you and do something for the payment.

So, test before you buy...

Wonderer

Bad Dog #3
01-06-09, 15:55
I agree this was a bad deal and you did the right thing by sending her away, but I don't understand the dinner first.

I have seen this in many reports, I just don't get it.

You pay a barfine for ST. Take her to the hotel and do your thing. "IF" you hit it off, then offer to take her to eat.

If you agreed on LT, then the circumstances are different.

Hey this isn't a blind date, its a business transaction first and a possible relationship a far second.

I have some very fond memories of sitting in restaurants with BG's, feeding me, wiping my brow, making me feel like king of the world, but all have been post-ejaculatory, I assure you.

BD

Mangofan
01-06-09, 16:27
A few days ago, I also had a bad experience with a girl from Happy a Gogo. When I met her in the bar, she was smiling at me, and I offered her a drink. She is really a stunner, cute face, very slim, but nice tits. 21 years young and her hair dyed blonde. Soon, we agreed for ST, and she said, she would go only for ST. But due to the enticing body, I agreed to the even pretty high price of 2000 THB. But we also agreed to have dinner first together. So, we went to a nice restaurant and had decent food. The communication was a bit difficult, despite her relatively good English. Basically, she only answered my questions. I had the impression that whe was under pressure.

Back to my hotel room, she took a shower and insisted on taking it alone. When she came out, she said: "you shower, now!". I was on the bed, and it took me perhaps 10 seconds to react (I was actually watching her body). Then, she was very impatient and repeated with clear impatience: "go shower, now!". This was then a bit too much. If she is already impatient at this moment, the sex must be pretty bad and in a rush. So, I told her, if she does not have time and wants to go back to the bar, she better goes now. She complained then a lot about "waste of time with dinner...". I sent her back - of course without paying.

The lesson is clear: I ignored the old rule to chat and discuss with the girl a bit in the bar, before you decide. Then, you find out whether or not she is the hardcore hooker just after your money or the girl who also wants to please you and do something for the payment.

So, test before you buy...

Wonderer


Never take a girl out for ST and then go to dinner. In fact, never take a girl out of a bar anywhere but your hotel room, unless you know the girl and have a good relationship with her.

Also, I would have gone back to the bar and demanded the barfine back.

Marteau
01-06-09, 17:44
Also, I would have gone back to the bar and demanded the barfine back.

Why ????
He send her away !
U pay a BF to take the girl out of the bar..then is up to the farang and the girl !
The bar can't be involved in this situation.
If she only go for ST i guess she would do it at least 2 times every day..so she was hurry to go back work. Business is business
But yes the next time i will skip the lunch..or go eat after the ST.

Run Mann
01-06-09, 18:11
Hi all,

Well I used to read the ISG often, but been out of the scene the last few.
Anyhow need advice on a good afternoon fs soapy.

Not near Big C ,as the mrs. likes to shop there.

Thanks ahead of time for any replies back

Try VIP Massage in Diamond Beach Hotel off Walking Street.

Run Mann
01-06-09, 18:33
True, since she did not refused to perform, he made his decision based on her mood/attitude. Some of these girls have incredible mood swings and can go from happy to sad or the reverse in a second. The smallest things can irate them but I agree a bar owner should not return a BF based on what customers think girls will or won't do

Why ????
He send her away !
U pay a BF to take the girl out of the bar..then is up to the farang and the girl !Business is business But yes the next time i will skip the lunch..or go eat after the ST.

Lover Boy #2
01-07-09, 02:12
Try VIP Massage in Diamond Beach Hotel off Walking Street.

This place is not exactly known for good looking girls (and only a few in the fishbowl)......probably on par with Annie's BKK.....not a good choice for a guy looking to move quick...make a decision....and get back to Pattaya Nua.

Beagleface
01-07-09, 02:25
The length of ST and LT really depends on what you agree on with the girl. Always pay after! I recently went to BKK (first time) and got very confused about what LT meant. Whats the point of LT if most girls think this means one boom boomPM (and one shot AM)? I'd always thought that an extended stay with a 'working girl' meant that you could at least go for 2 or 3 boom booms, esp if over several hours. In London, 45 minutes with a girl usually means 2 boom booms, if you can do it. Took me a while to reailze that girls seem to think, usually, that LT means 1 PM, 1 AM.

I'm heading to Pattaya in Feb and wondering what girls will 'define' LT as. Also, I tend to go for the prettiest girls I can find (rather than ones who might provide great service). I think this also enters the equation about how many boom booms you might get.

Run Mann
01-07-09, 03:04
This place is not exactly known for good looking girls (and only a few in the fishbowl)......probably on par with Annie's BKK.....not a good choice for a guy looking to move quick...make a decision....and get back to Pattaya Nua.

Had two excellent session from a girl there a while back, performance does count. Never been to Annies so can't compare the looks but the girls in VIP while not on par with Nataree, were attractive enough. Don't see why anyone going here wouldn't be able to "move quick, make a decision and get back to his home" if he wanted to.

1Ball
01-07-09, 03:55
wonderer, a quick question. whose idea was it to have a meal, hers or yours?
if yours, seems you were literally "eating " into the st time frame, hence her desire to speed things along once you got back to the room?

Rayzor
01-07-09, 07:03
...seems you were literally "eating " into the st time frame, hence her desire to speed things along once you got back to the room?i always thought the clock started once you left the bar/club.

i for one always head to the room first, then hang out, if we click, after.

Lover Boy #2
01-07-09, 08:17
Had two excellent session from a girl there a while back, performance does count. Never been to Annies so can't compare the looks but the girls in VIP while not on par with Nataree, were attractive enough. Don't see why anyone going here wouldn't be able to "move quick, make a decision and get back to his home" if he wanted to.

I respectfully disagree. Firstly, the fee you pay here is for the room and room supply fees.....the price (sex) has to be negotiated separately....just like Sabailand used to be....but this method is not a good one for the punter. One price, all in is the way to go. Secondly, the selection here is not up to par.....and that's my opinion.....end of argument as far as I am concerned. I did make one good selection here in many years of looking.....the girls are usually older, not attractive, fat, etc. We just disagree on this. There are a lot of other venues for this guy to try.....

Run Mann
01-07-09, 09:37
We just disagree on this.
This was obvious from the jump and I agree.

Wonderer
01-07-09, 13:08
the dinner was my proposal. however, i made this proposal still before we agreed to take her out, and she agreed with the dinner. furthermore, the agreed amount of 2000 thb should normally even justify lt, so i did not feel anything wrong by taking her out for dinner.

as a matter of fact, i do not like to eat alone, but prefer some nice company. i agree with you guys, however, that it is important to check out first the mood and ideas of the girl. due to her good look, i probably rushed a bit to barfine her. had i taken a bit more time, i might have already felt her hurry and then would not have taken her out.

in the past, i had wonderful dinners with great companions, before the deed. we had good fun, and then going to the room was like taking your girlfriend home - but then with a new experience.

i think, everyone has his preferences, but i will continue to have dinner with the take-out, if she agrees beforehand. then, i consider it part of the deal, like anything else that we might discuss and agree on.

wonderer



wonderer, a quick question. whose idea was it to have a meal, hers or yours?
if yours, seems you were literally "eating " into the st time frame, hence her desire to speed things along once you got back to the room?

Sammon
01-07-09, 17:36
I am also the romantic type. Hate eating alone and after barfining the girl if it is early would take the girl to a nice restaurent.
Only problem is these girls like their street food and do not like anything in the restaurent. If the girl is GFE they enjoy the time at dinner. If she is not you can easily tell.
30% of the time I have had good experience and good service from barfine girls taking them to dinner. I do not take them to dinner anymore the first time. Only if the girl stays with me one night and I plan to keep her for another I will take her to dinner. This avoids unnecessary hassles.
Best thing is to make sure the girls stays LT. Lots of stunners want only ST.
And they are least bothered to have dinner with you wasting her precious time.

PauloThai
01-07-09, 20:26
The dinner was my proposal. However, I made this proposal still before we agreed to take her out, and she agreed with the dinner. Furthermore, the agreed amount of 2000 THB should normally even justify LT, so I did not feel anything wrong by taking her out for dinner.

I think, everyone has his preferences, but I will continue to have dinner with the take-out, if she agrees beforehand. Then, I consider it part of the deal, like anything else that we might discuss and agree on. WondererHi Wonderer,

I also prefer more time with the girl, but then we are talking longtime. If you agree LT then she knows and is prepared to stay with you.

But you agreed ST and then it will be ST and then when with you she is already preparing for the next customer/money and she wants to return to the bar as soon as possible. Time is money!

So if you prefer more time and you are prepared to make some extra costs, dinner/drinks, then why not simply make an agreement for LT. Then you can do everything relaxed and have all the fun you want, again ofcourse within the LT agreement. Time is money!

The girls are not there for you, but they only want/need money!

ST = SHORTtime and LT = LONGtime, all up to you!

Cheers!

Jackzonian
01-07-09, 22:12
To each his own but:

I would much rather bust a nut with a buzz from a bar than gazz from a restaurant. Plus, who isn't hungry after a workout? The fillies usually want to scoot, but if she doesn't and performed well, the easiest thing is to share a bite at your hotel's cafe.- unless you are at a 5-star. But who among us bothers with that?

Keep it simple.- you'll have fewer problems.

Jck

Shuttlecock
01-07-09, 23:40
The dinner was my proposal. However, I made this proposal still before we agreed to take her out, and she agreed with the dinner. Furthermore, the agreed amount of 2000 THB should normally even justify LT, so I did not feel anything wrong by taking her out for dinner. Inviting her to dinner while still in the bar may have told her you were an easy target and easy to push around. I was that way and still have a "soft side" but only when she is gives GFE and eager t please.

DG69
01-08-09, 00:06
I understand Wonderers wish, to show up with a beautiful girl in a restaurant and get some jealous looks from other men. But, it's not a good idea to make that with a girl who is just behind quick money.
I saw it quite often, that guys come with her barfined girls to Clubs to have some dancing and boasting before they go back to the Hotel. If the bar girl and the customer likes each other, they can have a good time. But, often I notice that the bar girl flirts with other guys when the guy who barfined her looks in another direction.
Best advice if you can't read body language, is take her to the room after barfining and if she still wants to stay, than go for diner or disco or cinema, or what ever.

Thunderdome
01-08-09, 03:30
Last time I was in Pattaya I had 2 experiences with taking our cuties for eating in a restaurant. I discovered that this sometimes requires knowing the girl a bit better.

The one which was the best and nicest to be with was the one from Beach Road. She claimed she had not been in town long and I believed her. I was hungry as hell and drinking too much and needed to eat. She held my hand and I took her around to a thai restaurant. She didn't know much English but she was very polite and graceful. I ended up asking her for LT instead of ST and took her to my Hotel instead of my ST Hotel.

The other one was just a beauty gogo from Walking street. She was so hot.

But what a pain in the ass in the restaurant! I was sorry I invited her.

The fellow in an earlier post who said keep it simple was right. Western women are always wanting to eat out but we are in a different world!

Enjoy guys!

Betong
01-08-09, 04:27
Only problem is these girls like their street food and do not like anything in the restaurent.I seldom take 'em out for a meal but when I do I just ask them where they'd like to go. It's always cheap and usually pretty good, as long as you've got a taste for Thai/Lao food. Most of my favorite little jum jim, kai yaang/som tam, etc. places were introduced to me by bargirls.

Wonderer
01-08-09, 11:37
Thanks a lot to all for your comments. It's interesting to read the different opinions.

In fact, when I invited a take-out for dinner, in the majority of cases, I had a good time with them, even though it might have turned out later on to be as "ST". Most of the girls enjoyed having some food after their work. Sometimes, I propose a restaurant, sometimes, I let them propose. And yes, if they chose, they always go for something cheap yet quite delicious.

Also this time in Pattaya, I had more of the good experience when taking them to dinner before the hotel.

But perhaps the one I got from Happy was just not happy with me (and vice versa), i.e. just not the right match.

And as some of you mentioned, it is important, indeed to read some body language. This takes some time, and in the unhappy Happy case, I did not invest this time. I would consider this the main mistake.

Wonderer

And PS. for DG69: I did not take her to the restaurant to show up with a beautiful girl. In fact, I don't care too much what others think. And in Pattaya, it is sometimes even better not to be too visible (...), but with a pretty girl, it is more difficult to hide. So, showing up with a beauty and getting jealous looks was certainly not my motivation.

Italy 1974
01-08-09, 11:44
Sometimes I found people very naive.

How can you think that going to a restaurant with a bargirl in Pattaya can get some jealous looks from other men? Pattaya is full of ***** and any average man in a restaurant knows that the "couple" you mentioned is a made by a customer and a *****.

Moreover, you wrote that sometimes you heve noticed that bargirl flirts with other guys when the guy who barfined her looks in another direction.

My God! It's normal: they are ***** and they are there for money. If you berfined her today it is very difficult you will do the same thing tomorrow so she must think who will be the next guy to fuck. Simple as that.

Italy 1974


I understand Wonderers wish, to show up with a beautiful girl in a restaurant and get some jealous looks from other men. But, it's not a good idea to make that with a girl who is just behind quick money.

I saw it quite often, that guys come with her barfined girls to Clubs to have some dancing and boasting before they go back to the Hotel. If the bar girl and the customer likes each other, they can have a good time. But, often I notice that the bar girl flirts with other guys when the guy who barfined her looks in another direction.

Best advice if you can't read body language, is take her to the room after barfining and if she still wants to stay, than go for diner or disco or cinema, or what ever.

Member #3173
01-08-09, 14:26
I have been to Pattaya recent years and in my 60s now.Each stay has been between 4 to 17 days at a stretch.Most times I stayed in Pattaya Tai and in
between I stay at Jomtien, next to the airport bus stand.

I notice around Dongtan Beach which is halfway between Pattaya and Jomtien there are also hotels between the beach and the roundabout.Would this area be nice to roam about in day and night time and how much would
the baht buses cost to go halfway either way,that is from Pattaya to here
or from Jomtien to here.Thanks guys

Betong
01-08-09, 16:51
I notice around Dongtan Beach which is halfway between Pattaya and Jomtien there are also hotels between the beach and the roundabout.Would this area be nice to roam about in day and night time and how much would the baht buses cost to go halfway either way,that is from Pattaya to here or from Jomtien to here.Dongtan is pleasant in that you have a beach with no traffic along it, but seems to attract mostly gays and Russians (not that there's anything wrong with that). Songthaew to Pattaya are B20. Walkable to some Jomthien bars but they're nothing special. Only recommendable if you really want a quiet beach scene all day, and even then Na Kleua just north of Pattaya might be a better choice.

Italy 1974
01-08-09, 19:43
Dongtan is pleasant in that you have a beach with no traffic along it, but seems to attract mostly gays and Russians (not that there's anything wrong with that). Songthaew to Pattaya are B20. Walkable to some Jomthien bars but they're nothing special. Only recommendable if you really want a quiet beach scene all day, and even then Na Kleua just north of Pattaya might be a better choice.I definitely agree: Na Kleua is one of the best choice for those looking for quiet beaches.

Sometimes too quiet.

Italy 1974