Pattaya Reports

[PlayHo]

One pop or about 2 hours max (whichever comes first) for ST, anything beyond that is to be negotiated. LT is usually only offered in the evening / night as it includes an overnight stay and taking care of your morning wood.

A golden rule is to clearly discuss your requirements before you close the deal. Of course you can always try to extend your stay by offering more money, but then you are in a weak position to negotiate.How do you say 2 pops in Thai? Or do they generally understand 'pop'?

[Reiner Otto]

Not that you would want to given the, ahem, extraordinarily shabby nature of the accommodations (think "shower" by a garden hose at best, or ladling water from a barrel), sheets that may, or may not have, been laundered in the past three days, etc.
Have been multiple times with the girls of "Red Point" (somewhere middle of Soi 6) ; not only good service, but also good rooms. No reason to complain.

[CrazyCouple7]

Doubtful. To the best of my knowledge (limited as it is), the Soi 6 establishments are basically knocking shops, and you will not be provided time to linger. Not that you would want to given the, ahem, extraordinarily shabby nature of the accommodations (think "shower" by a garden hose at best, or ladling water from a barrel), sheets that may, or may not have, been laundered in the past three days, etc.

Others may have different experiences along this delightfully grand boulevard of debauchery, but you might be hard-pressed to take a girl off-site (the best I got was that I could meet up with one of the lasses at one of the discos (Mixx or somesuch) after hours, meaning 4 am I consented but decided to call it a night, albeit with another hire, much earlier. And as for Soi 6, do make sure you won't end up with (cough) extra goods. Some establishments have both girls and ladyboys working the very same place. As a UN convention that kind of shit ought to be banned, but it is the case on Soi 6, so beware.Yes, some of the places on Yodsak have the bucket or hose set up. However, there are a # of places that have pretty decent rooms with actual showers. Reiner mentioned Red Point, but we have been in Nightwish and Ruby Club and they both have decent rooms with private showers. There is another one directly across street from Ruby Club as well. I know there are a few others, but those I remember off the top of my head. We have been pleasantly surprised and put off with some places, but its all part of the experience.

It is not hard at all to take a girl off site from Soi 6, these bars will BF the girls just like other Pattaya bars. Or at least we have never had any issues BF'ing here. We typically hit the 6 for a quick afternoon / evening ST before heading out for night, but occasionally we will meet one that we want to spend longer with. These bars close way earlier than 4 am, as this street is pretty much done by 1 am. Maybe the girls just do not like you.

[TellAll]

Doubtful. To the best of my knowledge (limited as it is), the Soi 6 establishments are basically knocking shops, and you will not be provided time to linger. Not that you would want to given the, ahem, extraordinarily shabby nature of the accommodations (think "shower" by a garden hose at best, or ladling water from a barrel), sheets that may, or may not have, been laundered in the past three days, etc.

Others may have different experiences along this delightfully grand boulevard of debauchery, but you might be hard-pressed to take a girl off-site (the best I got was that I could meet up with one of the lasses at one of the discos (Mixx or somesuch) after hours, meaning 4 am I consented but decided to call it a night, albeit with another hire, much earlier. And as for Soi 6, do make sure you won't end up with (cough) extra goods. Some establishments have both girls and ladyboys working the very same place. As a UN convention that kind of shit ought to be banned, but it is the case on Soi 6, so beware.I deffinately had better experience on Soi 6 then you. In fact, I never experienced water hoses or other substandard conditions. I always check the room before I decide to use it. The bars I go to on Soi 6 have better short time rooms then some hotel rooms I have seen. I have also taken them off Soi 6 at all times of day and night. You are correct to get all the particulars of what you want out of the way up front.

[Member #4698]

Have been multiple times with the girls of "Red Point" (somewhere middle of Soi 6) ; not only good service, but also good rooms. No reason to complain.Red Point has some of the nicer rooms and en suite showers on Soi 6. They were renovated recently. O Bar is old school with shared bathroom and shower water from a barrel. The water barrel cleaning and rinse can be fun if you have the right attitude. In Macau it is called a "Japanese Shower" and they charge customers $25 for the 30 minute service with a pretty girl. LOL. I always focus on the girls. Find a sexy girl and the room will take care of itself ie it is not that big a deal. Taking a girl out to your hotel room is always an option and I recommended it if you really like a girl. It's more money of course. Try her ST first upstairs to see if she is worth an out call and you really want to spend more time with her.

Many Soi Sixers will tell you that the best way to enjoy Soi 6's unique set up and bar culture is to take your time, have a drink, walk the soi, meet a friendly girl, have a drink with her, boom boom up upstairs, say goodbye, and do it all over again as many times as you like, then call it a night. Red Point, Nightwish, Sky Bar, O Bar, Pussy Club (Amsterdamaged), Lisa Bar, and Click Bar (Lick Bar) are all friendly bars with good girls.

[Jack Of Spades]

I am looking for advice in relation to the usual weather in Pattaya in March, April or May for those that have been during those months.

Basically, in addition to the wonderful entertainment that Pattaya has to offer, I am a big fan of chilling out on the beach during the day. I love the beach weather (sunshine) and am not so fond of clouds and rain. Hot is not a problem as long as the sun is shining.

I am hoping to turn my annual three week November pilgrimage into 2 x two week visits, but am trying to figure out which are the best times to visit. Obviously I would prefer to spread both visits apart enough so that I do not have to go without my happy place for too long.

I have been in late November, early December and loved the weather.

I am thinking, based on information from climate websites online, maybe 2 weeks late November and 2 weeks early April would suit my needs. Are the girls all worn out and jaded by April though?

Any thoughts / advice?

Thanks in advance.

Jack of Spades.

[Mr Enternational]

I am looking for advice in relation to the usual weather in Pattaya in March, April or May for those that have been during those months.

Basically, in addition to the wonderful entertainment that Pattaya has to offer, I am a big fan of chilling out on the beach during the day. I love the beach weather (sunshine) and am not so fond of clouds and rain. Hot is not a problem as long as the sun is shining.Looks like you are in for a treat then. It is usually about 100 F.


Are the girls all worn out and jaded by April though?What girls? There are always new and different ones.

[TellAll]

Red Point has some of the nicer rooms and en suite showers on Soi 6. They were renovated recently. O Bar is old school with shared bathroom and shower water from a barrel. The water barrel cleaning and rinse can be fun if you have the right attitude. In Macau it is called a "Japanese Shower" and they charge customers $25 for the 30 minute service with a pretty girl. LOL. I always focus on the girls. Find a sexy girl and the room will take care of itself ie it is not that big a deal. Taking a girl out to your hotel room is always an option and I recommended it if you really like a girl. It's more money of course. Try her ST first upstairs to see if she is worth an out call and you really want to spend more time with her.

Many Soi Sixers will tell you that the best way to enjoy Soi 6's unique set up and bar culture is to take your time, have a drink, walk the soi, meet a friendly girl, have a drink with her, boom boom up upstairs, say goodbye, and do it all over again as many times as you like, then call it a night. Red Point, Nightwish, Sky Bar, O Bar, Pussy Club (Amsterdamaged), Lisa Bar, and Click Bar (Lick Bar) are all friendly bars with good girls.Couldn't have said it better myself.

[WildHawk]

I deffinately had better experience on Soi 6 then you. I have also taken them off Soi 6 at all times of day and night. You are correct to get all the particulars of what you want out of the way up front.All posts good information; I was simply basing my comment on my two sessions, during both of which the girl took me upstairs (directly above the bars in question). Just assumed that was the setup.

As the little feller was doing the thinking, hotel reviews were not my primary concern although conditions were indeed atrocious. Fortunately, the sex was great, better than that with many of the more expensive gogo girls. (Though one of the two tried to put a rush on the affair.) But we all know that paying more is no guarantee of a better experience.

[Oliver Kitsoff]

I have been in PAt for 2. 5 days. It is cool and not busy.

So far rather disappointed but staying positive.

PP.Seriously,

This place, Pattaya, has just gone downhill rapidly. Did three tours, each worse than the last, and never really felt relaxed there, the energy was all wrong, I hardly fucked anybody compared to BKK, but hten again, I like to find a few good providers and just rotate them on the trip, it works because we get to know each other and that means great GFE not mediocre lots of bangs.

I actually 'live' in Chiang Mai now, among 'regular' thai people, and it is like moving from, say Soho (London) or Times Sq. (New York) to the suburbs. Folks are normal, you 'wai' and 'wai' in return (most important!) Not everyone, but the sort of folks you shake hands with back home if that makes sense.

Haven't seen a hooker in months except from my businesswoman girlfriends car, and no she is not Hi-so she came from the fields and worked hard!

It's nice living a normal life, but I miss the bar scene, and can't sneak out!

Still a bit off topic, but Pattaya sounds like it's going to get a makeover now that the generals are in power, at least they are making all promises. We shall see.

[Lonely566]

http://www.theguardian.com/society/gallery/2014/sep/22/pattaya-police-target-sex-tourism-in-pictures

[Daddy07]

http://www.theguardian.com/society/gallery/2014/sep/22/pattaya-police-target-sex-tourism-in-picturesNothing new about this. There have been regular police crackdowns on Beach Road and Walking Street since forever. Things always return to normal quickly. I've lived here almost 7 years now and life is still good. As others have said -- it's all about attitude.

[ActionOriented]

http://www.theguardian.com/society/gallery/2014/sep/22/pattaya-police-target-sex-tourism-in-picturesTHB 300 hardly seems like a strong fine to discourage SWs.

[Mr Enternational]

THB 300 hardly seems like a strong fine to discourage SWs.The fine is actually 100 baht. They are charged with loitering. It was reported wrong in the video.

[Priamos]

From what I understand most girls would not look at a three hour session as short time. You need to tell them exactly what you want so there is no problem later. If you want to boom boom four times in three hours, make that clear up front and then negotiate price.

Most of the hotties won't even consider it. They can make more in a one shot short time.Well now, that depends on how much cash you offer. But seriously, TellAll, I think that you (and many others) over estimate how much the girls on Soi 6 earn. I remember small-talking with a hostess at one of the bars (may have been Z) a couple of years ago, and she was telling me about one of her colleagues. She had been recruited from a factory in BKK a few months earlier (seems to be a fairly standard practice) and she had shown such a flair for the work that on one day she'd managed to do 4ST and 1 LT. This achievement had apparently gone into the local folklore. OK, I realise that this will have netted the girl around 5000 B in one day, which IS a lot, but considering that their work day is around 12 hours, four short-times do equal one client per 3 hours. So I wouldn't think that most girls would consider extra cash for three hours in the room as a "wasted opportunity".

[Wolvenvacht]

How do you say 2 pops in Thai? Or do they generally understand 'pop'?They will understand or you can use "finish two times".

[TellAll]

Well now, that depends on how much cash you offer. But seriously, TellAll, I think that you (and many others) over estimate how much the girls on Soi 6 earn. I remember small-talking with a hostess at one of the bars (may have been Z) a couple of years ago, and she was telling me about one of her colleagues. She had been recruited from a factory in BKK a few months earlier (seems to be a fairly standard practice) and she had shown such a flair for the work that on one day she'd managed to do 4ST and 1 LT. This achievement had apparently gone into the local folklore. OK, I realise that this will have netted the girl around 5000 B in one day, which IS a lot, but considering that their work day is around 12 hours, four short-times do equal one client per 3 hours. So I wouldn't think that most girls would consider extra cash for three hours in the room as a "wasted opportunity".I believe I said make clear what you want up front and then negotiate price. I'm sure a soi 6 girl can be found to do it for the right price.

My reference to hotties were the girls at the go go's. They can make 3000 on a short time one pop. A lot of them won't even go longtime until late. Again if you are willing to fork over the right amount, anything is possible in Pattaya.

[Member #4698]

Day 32 Sunday March 30,2014 Pattaya Day 1:

I had scheduled VR Taxi Limo service to pick me up at noon for the drive to Pattaya. I use these guys all the time. I have even used them for airport pickups to drive straight to Pattaya upon arrival in LOS. They are always on time and very reliable.

http://www.pattaya-taxi.com/

At around 11:30 am I called Mr. Keak. His representative told me the driver was on his way. Three minutes later the driver called to tell me he was waiting in the Marriott parking lot. Actually, I found out later that the driver had driven up from Pattaya early in the morning to beat rush hour traffic and had been waiting for me since 9:30 AM in the hotel parking lot. I checked out of the Marriott Executive Apartments Thonglor and I met my driver who had pulled up in front of the hotel. He introduced himself as Mr. Be.

Mr. Be took Ekkamai to the Toll Road. BKK Traffic was light this Sunday and we got out of BKK pretty fast. Mr. Be put some country rock on the DVD player and I snoozed in the back seat. About halfway to Pattaya he asked me if I was hungry and if I wanted to stop at the food plaza. I told him I was not hungry, but that I wanted to stop and get something cold to drink. I bought a coke light and an ice coffee for my driver. Then walking back to the car, half-jokingly, I asked Mr. Be if I could drive to Pattaya and he surprised me and said ok. So I drove the rest of the way and we both got a good laugh out of it. Mr. Be commented that I was a good chauffeur and I told him he was a good customer and I expected a tip. About 100 yards before the end of the highway, Mr. Be suggested that I pull over and we switched drivers so the cops would not pull us over. Less than 10 minutes late he dropped me off at the Holiday Inn. I gave him a hundred baht tip and confirmed with him my return ride to BKK on April 2.

At the Priority Club check in I was upgraded to a high floor deluxe room facing the bay. My room was modern, light, and airy. It also had a small, but nice balcony. The price was around $100 per night. I changed into my bathing suit and hung out at the pool for about an hour. The Holiday Inn has a great infinity pool facing the beach and it felt real good to be back on the ocean. I only wish Pattaya Beach was clean and not polluted. I would definitely spend more time in Pattaya if I could swim in the water. But the Holiday Inn pool is real nice and the next best thing. Another good thing about the holiday Inn is they have a large kid's pool on the mezzanine level so the Adult pool is quiet and relaxing. I hate loud splashing kids in hotel swimming pools.

After pool time I relaxed for a while in my room and then at around 5:30 I headed out to check out the Six which was a few blocks away. To my surprise not much was going on. Most of the better bars were closed and shuttered and not many girls were about. Q Bar was one of the only bars open for business, but it did not seem like their best girls were available at the moment, so I decided to keep my powder dry and wait until the evening to score a hot Walking Street Go Go girl. The deadliness of Soi 6 was very surprising, because usually at this time all the bars are open and the girls are all sitting outside waiting for customers. I wondered what the fuck was up. I hoped it was not another holiday / bar closing that would spoil my first night here.

To kill a little time and because I had nothing better to do, I stopped off at Honey 2 Massage parlor on Second Road near Soi 6 and I checked out the lineup. IMHO Pattaya soapy massage parlors are not very good and can't be compared to BKK Soapies. Honey 2's fishbowl confirmed my opinion. There were about 30 girls present when I arrived plus a handful of customers. A host explained the pricing to me. He told me that M class girls are 2200 bt and numbered girls are 1800 bt. I ordered a coke light and sat down on a comfortable couch in front of the fishbowl. I could not see much difference in quality between the M class and the numbered girls. A lot of girls were giving me suggestive looks and signals to pick them. But nobody really turned me on and I again decided to wait for much more attractive Go Go girls later on. On the way back to the Holiday Inn I stopped off at a 7/11 to pick up some provisions. Then I headed back to the room.

Around 7:30 I headed back out. Something was definitely going on. The bay side of Beach Road was lined with a multitude of temporary roll away food carts, grill restaurants, stands selling T shirts and every other kind tourist stuff you can possibly imagine. It was so crowded with these stands and tourists that I found it impossible to walk down the sidewalk. Since I had not been to Pattaya since the powers that be narrowed the walkway in order to add another lane for traffic, I did not know what to make of all this congestion. Was this a special holiday event or was this the new Beach Road given over to tourist concession stands and small portable restaurants. In addition to it being impossible to walk here there was no room for freelancers either. So I knew this had to be temporary special occasion and that is why Soi 6 coincidentally was closed down too.

I took a baht bus to Walking Street. The roll away restaurants and tourist concession stands lined the entire beachfront all the way from the Holiday Inn to Walking street. It was incredible. Walking Street, however, was not that crowded. I grabbed some dinner on Soi 15 at one of the small restaurants that line that Soi. The chili prawns and som tom were great. Beer was not available due to the apparent holiday restrictions, but the owner told me beer would be available later in the evening. After dinner I walked past Sapphire Go Go, an old favorite bar of mine, but nothing was going on there. I returned to Walking Street and decided to check out Sensations Go Go. I had never been to this bar before, but a friend had told me that there were a lot of hotties in this bar. When I arrived I saw around 30 girls dancing on the two stages. I sat down and ordered a beer. Thank Buddha they were serving alcohol.

Sensations is not a large bar, but they have two stages. The girls on the first stage did not appeal to me at all. I saw a few nice faces, but it looked like there was a lot of silly cone over there. The girls on the 2nd stage didn't look too much better. A new group of girls hit both stages. I got some friendly looks from two or three of the girls, but they were not quite what I was looking for. I sipped my beer and started to think about moving on. Then all of a sudden two very attractive girls came out of nowhere and stood directly in front of me. These two very sexy girls were all smiles and they introduced themselves to me. Where these two friendlies came from and how I could have not spotted them? I do not know, but they were both very attractive and very, very friendly. After the greeting preliminaries were over, I offered the girls a drink and suggested we do Tequila shots. The girls both accepted, of course, and sat down on either side of me. One girl, with black hair, I forgot her name, spoke the better English of the two. The other girl, with dyed hair, was still very sociable, young, and attractive. Both girls had killer bodies.

While sitting and chatting with these two girls; I could not help but notice that the quality of the girls dancing on stage had improved dramatically from the time when I had first walked into Sensations. I guess I had had arrived a little too early tonight, before all the high quality Coyote Agency girls had showed up for work. Now that a sizable number of Sensation Coyotes girls were in the bar, I could see that this bar did indeed have some high quality girls working here. Not only were my two new friends very shag worthy, but I saw that there were many more equally shag worthy girls all over place. My friend was right. Sensations is a very hot bar IMHO and I was very impressed with the girls I now saw here.

So I was sitting there in between the two stages drinking shots with two hot Agency Coyotes on either side of me and both girls were letting their hands wander over my chest and crotch. I was torn. I couldn't decide who I wanted to shag because they are both pretty sexy and attentive. I wanted them both. I think I was leaning a little towards Black Hair because I was conversing more with her since she spoke the better English and also because she was the taller of the two girls and I liked her long black hair.

After a while Black Hair told me it was her turn to go on stage and dance. I asked if she really had to leave and she nodded, but she quickly added that she would come back right after her set. Then she left me alone with her friend F, a fatal mistake on Black Hair's part 555. Although F spoke less English than her friend, she was real nice and extremely sexy. We started holding hands while I watched Black Hair dance on stage. F told me she was 24. While she was lightly rubbing my crotch, she said I was big. Again 555. I told her little Gogul was still sleeping, but he would wake up fully if someone kept rubbing him. She gave me a little kiss with some tongue and continued to lightly brush her hand over my dick. I was sold and I was all hers. I am such a weak man. I could not even wait 20 minutes for Black Hair to return to make her case; I am that easily swayed by pretty Thai girls.

I asked F if she wanted to go to my hotel and she smiled enthusiastically. Then she called over the Mamasan to explain the barfines. I knew going in that the barfines were very expensive in this bar, so I wasn't too surprised when the Mama told me the barfine was 1500 bt. I made a huge exaggerated face to the two women and exclaimed that 1500 bt was a hell of a lot for a barfine. The Mamasan told me that the barfine is 1000 bt after midnight. But since it was only around 9 pm I definitely didn't feel like waiting three hours for a shag. So I told the mama I wanted to talk to F privately and she politely withdrew. I now conferred with F and asked how much she wanted. F said she wanted 2000 bt for ST and 4000 bt for LT. I told her that I preferred a ST for our first date and if we both had a good time I would do a LT the next time. F understood what I am saying and she whole heartedly agreed. So it was 3500 bt all in. Because I knew the second I laid eyes of F and Black Hair that I wanted to shag both girls, I had no problem agreeing to the deal. F called the mama back and I paid the barfine and my drink tab. F then asked if she should change and I told her yeah. After a few minutes she came back dressed very nicely in a black outfit with flowers. She looked real good in her street clothes.

I bought another round of Tequila and we took our time getting to know each other a little more. Black Hair came back and joined us after her dance set and she was happy that I had barfined her friend. She told me that F was a good girl and I told her that I would take good care of F. Then I ordered another round of Tequila for the three of us and we toasted our new friendship. After a while I suggested to F that we leave and off we went. F suggested we take a motorcycle taxi back to my hotel which was exactly what I was thinking. I remember F wanted to sit behind me on the bike. She hugged me close as the motorcycle taxi zipped through 2nd road traffic. I could feel her small breasts pressed against my back.

In the room F started out a little shy and wanted to take a shower by herself. She disrobed and I could see that her gear was in great shape. She had a beautiful tight young body and very nice natural "A" cup ta ta's. I showered quickly after her shower and then I joined her in bed. We started out slow with some gentle kissing. As the kissing got more serious we started to explore each other's bodies. She gave me a good BBBJ. Then we made out some more and I started to kiss her nipples. I just could not resist her charms and freshness and I went down on her. I took my time down there, first licking her Labia Majora before I started kissing her well defined Labia Minora. When I knew she was ready I made direct contact with her clit. She became very wet and I knew I was exciting her. After a while she pulled me up and said she wanted me inside her. I gave her a condom and she wrapped me. Then I glided into her warm pussy. Her vagina felt real good as I gave it to her in misch. After a while we rolled over and she gave me her version Asian Cowgirl with the souls of her feet planted firmly on the bed. I palmed her wonderful small breasts and then later placed my hands on her thighs as she continued to ride me. It was a great shag.

Afterwards we soapy showered together and she cleaned me up. At this point she was very affectionate and no longer shy. I took a few photos of her back in the bedroom. She asked me not to show any of the nude shots and I promised her I would not. I told her I really liked her a lot and would try to drop by her bar tomorrow night to see her. She smiled and said she would wait for me. We relaxed and watched a little TV and then F began her preparations to leave. I asked her if she was heading back to Sensations and she said yes, but she seemed reluctant about leaving. She asked me if I wanted her to stay. I thought about it, but I didn't quite feel like doing another LT tonight after M's overnighter the previous night, so I told F I was tired from my long trip and I began to dress too. I gave F 2000 bt plus a 300 bt tip. Then hand in hand I escorted her downstairs. We kissed goodbye in the long dark Holiday Inn driveway leading up to Beach Road. She got on one of the motor cycle taxis that are always waiting there on Beach road. She turned to smile and waved as the bike took her away.

Although it was still relatively early, I didn't feel like going back out on the town. If I had felt like hitting more bars and staying out late, I would have kept F and gone barhopping with her. But truth be told, I hadn't slept much the previous night with M and I felt a little tired after my ST session with F. So I went back upstairs, turned on the TV, and kind of watched a movie while typing out the journal entry to what became this night's trip report. Bottom line: I had a real good time with F and I was glad I met her. I was very impressed with the quality of girls in Sensations Go Go. It felt great to be back in Pattaya. I couldn't help questioning why I had scheduled so little time here this trip. Damn! I only had two more nights in Pat.

A note on Sensations Go Go and Coyote barfines:

Sensations is a Pattaya Walking Street Go Go that employs Agency girls, aside from their hostesses and service girls. At least 50% to 60% of the dancers in Sensations are Coyotes and the balance are regular bikini girls. The barfine for Coyotes is 1500 bt before midnight and 1000 bt after midnight. I think the barfine for regular girls is 700 bt anytime. The goal of the staggered barfine is to keep as many hot girls in the bar as long as possible attracting customers and maximizing drink revenue and it works. This is a disturbing trend in the Pattaya Go Go scene and I really hope it does not come to BKK, but there is nothing much to do about it as far as I am concerned as long as the Agency Coyotes are of such high quality.

I have known a few really nice Agency girls and after I got to know these girls (barfined them at least once) they offered me workarounds to avoid their high barfine. For example, I used to arrange dates with Nt, my regular What's Up Go Go agency stunner to barfine her at midnight after her bar's barfine dropped from 2000 bt to 1000 bt. Nt would not barfine any other customer as long as made a date with her and I arrived at her bar before midnight. On a couple of occasions I dropped by What's Up at around 11:30 pm and she would be sitting with a paying Japanese or a Western customer. She would give me a knowing glance and I would sit down at another table. A couple of Nt's friends would come by to entertain me and in 5 or 10 minutes Nt would extricate herself from her drink paying customer and join me. I would buy her one lady drink and then at midnight she would go and change her clothes.

We would also arrange to get together during the afternoon around 2 pm for lunch. Nt knew many great local Pattaya restaurants. After lunch we would do something GFE like going bowling or visit the botanical garden or go shopping (her favorite). Then if time permitted we would head back to my hotel for a late afternoon quickie. No barfine.

Nt also came up to see me in BKK one time. Actually she came to see her young daughter who lived with her mother in BKK. She would come by my hotel around midnight and spend the rest of the night with me. Again there was no barfine. So I like to think of the large staggered barfine as a finders fee for meeting some very sexy girls and if we click the girls will come up with workarounds to reduce the barfine on subsequent dates. Oh what a time I would have if I only lived in Pat.

I am currently being offered the same kind of workaround with a super sexy Makati Burgos Street bar girl I met later in this trip. Her bar, Bottoms, has an onerous 3900 p barfine (almost $100) which is not that unusual for better Burgos St bars by the way. She is well aware of how the super high barfine impacts her regular and potential customers. That is why she offered to take a short leave from her bar when I return to Makati. She is a smart girl. She knows I really like her and I think she likes me a little too. By making herself available to me without the barfine, she practically guarantees that I will spend many consecutive nights with her. Yeah, I have already left two weeks open on my next trip for her (maybe) and I might take her to Palawan if our reunion goes well. We text back and forth every other week or so.

So to each his own on whether you want to play the staggered barfine game or not. I think it depends on one's circumstances and time frame. I definitely suggest bar hoping Pattaya Walking Street Go Go's and comparing the quality levels of girls at Coyote Agency bars like Sensations and What's Up to quality levels at non Agency bars like Baccara (Walking Street), Happy, and SuperBaby to name a few. My next report will be on my experiences at Happy A Go Go, a non Agency bar.

[Hermescali]

I am returning to Thailand after 5 years. I read many bad comments on the quality of girls. But the photos I see of your girl make me looking forward to returning.

[Laalaa]

Has anyone got any comments about flying from Pattaya to Phuket on Bangkok Airways?

I am thinking about doing a multi-hop trip.

Bangkok --car- Pattaya --plane- Phuket --plane-Bangkok.

Flying direct from Pattaya to Phuket just seems to be a smarter plan than going back into Bangkok and flying down from there.

[Member #4698]

I am returning to Thailand after 5 years. I read many bad comments on the quality of girls. But the photos I see of your girl make me looking forward to returning.Don't listen to the naysayers. There are plenty of attractive girls all over the place. Prices are up from 5 years ago. That is the main difference and the advent of Agency Girls in some of the Go Go's. If you had a good time 5 years ago, you will have an equally good time now.

[Awesome Man]

Has anyone got any comments about flying from Pattaya to Phuket on Bangkok Airways?

I am thinking about doing a multi-hop trip.

Bangkok --car- Pattaya --plane- Phuket --plane-Bangkok.

Flying direct from Pattaya to Phuket just seems to be a smarter plan than going back into Bangkok and flying down from there.I've done that trip several limes, very easy and convenient. Ten minutes after you have landed you've got your bag and are on your way again. Bangkok Air provides free coffeem juice, water and snacks at Utapao as well as free wifi.

I've already bought my air ticket fir February, flying to Phuket from Utapao.

[JesseJames]

Don't listen to the naysayers. There are plenty of attractive girls all over the place. Prices are up from 5 years ago. That is the main difference and the advent of Agency Girls in some of the Go Go's. If you had a good time 5 years ago, you will have an equally good time now.Some guys ***** ***** ***** about everything. Are the food stands gone from Beach Road now?

[BrandonKelly]

Don't listen to the naysayers. There are plenty of attractive girls all over the place. Prices are up from 5 years ago. That is the main difference and the advent of Agency Girls in some of the Go Go's. If you had a good time 5 years ago, you will have an equally good time now.The girls here, by and large, all seem to be fuckable. I was at Windmill last night and one of the girls on stage I would describe as cute face, ok butt, but with the nicest natural the-boobs I may have ever seen, be it in real life or on the internet. She was pretty tan, but I feel like those complexion issues are for the Thais to work out amongst themselves. I've always been attracted to Mexican women, mainly because their skin is the color of a permanent summer tan, with asians def. High up on my preference list. The white-skinned, waif Thai women seem to be the exception rather than the rule here.

Even on Soi 6 early in the day there seemed to be at least one girl at every bar that would no doubt be considered "hot' at any nightclub in Thailand or the West. It's impossible to predict what any given man would find attractive in a woman, but I promise any man he can find a woman that he finds attractive (hot) in Pattaya and fuck her brains out, for like $40-$60 US. One could have a not-so cute face but a pretty shaved pussy; another could have awesome skin and face but sort of a flat ass; and on and on.

[Uncle Volodya]

I am returning to Thailand after 5 years. I read many bad comments on the quality of girls. But the photos I see of your girl make me looking forward to returning.I concur with Mr. NB. And also the free lance seen is as good as ever: Red Car, I-Bar, and Lucifer are all full of attractive girls that will go home with you for LT for between 1. 5 - 3 K.

[Anthony777]

I have done it a few times, no problems on the twin prop planes.

Not trying to put you off, but from memory one of them did crash about 10 years ago landing in Koh Samui.

I don't remember the reason for it.


Has anyone got any comments about flying from Pattaya to Phuket on Bangkok Airways?

I am thinking about doing a multi-hop trip.

Bangkok --car- Pattaya --plane- Phuket --plane-Bangkok.

Flying direct from Pattaya to Phuket just seems to be a smarter plan than going back into Bangkok and flying down from there.

[Oliver Kitsoff]

http://www.theguardian.com/society/gallery/2014/sep/22/pattaya-police-target-sex-tourism-in-picturesThis link has some funny-as-hell pictures, some of the looks of passerby is priceless, one little white punter in paticular, does not look too thrilled with his Pattaya experience!

That katoey in the police bus looks like she is telling the tourist cop he was not so authoritive when she was cornholing him the night before! LOL! I undersand those white tourist cops are volunteers... why? Firstly I'm sure the City of Pattaya can afford to 'reward' them at least a 'Thai' wage, and since it must be a really crappy gig, they'd be better use, and likely happier men, helping an animal shelter IMHO.

[Oliver Kitsoff]

They will understand or you can use "finish two times".If you want a few more 'just for monger' Thai phrases, look at my new thread here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3623-Some-useful-Thai-for-mongers.

[Oliver Kitsoff]

They will understand or you can use "finish two times".


Don't listen to the naysayers. There are plenty of attractive girls all over the place. Prices are up from 5 years ago. That is the main difference and the advent of Agency Girls in some of the Go Go's. If you had a good time 5 years ago, you will have an equally good time now.It's horses for courses, I'm not a fan of Pattaya, but some guys love it, fair play to them.

To any first-timer I would say DON'T book your hotel for the whole time you are going to be there, take a night only if you can do so, to see if you like the hotel or like the scene. In both cases, it should be easy to move, even in high season, as there are always guys who no show, die, get busted, go to ER, or leave early. And once there, there is alaways another room to be had. (Same of course, goes for BKK in reverse, you can always leave if your hotel booking is not locked in for the whole stay)

Never forget BKK is just a few easy hours away by car bus taxi at almost any time of day and night, so don't feel you are caught there. If you're not having fun within 48 hours chances are, it's not for you, pull the pin on it, and try BKK!

Also, you can try Koh Samet -NOT Koh Samui, just a hour further down the coast, but I'd suggest you take a girl 'on tour' with you there, it is more for honeymooners and middle class Thai than mongers, but it can be like paradise if the girl and you work out and hell if you don't! Remember, you'll have to pay for her trip then too, plus her 'salary'! Make sure she works well as a translator and other chores like sending and collecting your out-sourced laundry, snacks, beer, etc.

Those of you with a little more time or money who have come half way around the world should also remember that Angeles City (Clark Airport) and Cambodia are mere hours away on relatively cheap regional flights if you want to sample them at any point as well.

I do hope you enjoy Pattaya, I hope it may even evolve one day to be more like BKK in terms of the scene, but that's just me. ;-)

Peace out.

[Member #4698]

Day 33 Monday March 31,2014 Pattaya Day 2:

It was a beautiful sunny morning in Pattaya. All the previous night's concession stands were gone from Beach Road, thank Buddha. I took a baht bus over to Soi Post Office and cut over to 2nd Road where I ran into my favorite juice lady. I bought a couple of fresh OJ's from her and then continued my walk past Tim Bar over to Soi 13. From there I walked past LK Metro up to Soi Buakhao. Across the street on Soi Lengkee is a wonderful little breakfast bakery caf called the Loaf. IMHO this place has the best breakfasts in Pattaya. I ordered a sticky almond bun, a double shot skinny latte, and scrambled eggs with crispy prosciutto on toasted baguette. Everything was great.

After breakfast I jumped on another baht bus going north. I got off just before Central Pattaya Road in order to check out Mr. Jacks watch store. I specifically wanted to buy a couple of Patek Philippe fakes, one for my Dad because he gets a kick out of wearing good copies and one for me. Jacks had three Patek Philippe knockoffs available, a large black face, a large white face, and a smaller white face model. He said they were made in Taiwan and of good quality. The price was 2500 bt for each. I bought the black face and the large white face and gave him 50% down. He said the watches would be ready for pickup tomorrow at 10 am.

After that I walked back to the Holiday Inn by way of Beach Road. It was getting pretty warm and I needed to cool off by the pool after my walk. Later around 4 pm I took another walk down Beach Road to the Hilton and back. I went out early and had a tasty dinner consisting of curry prawns, a mango smoothie, and durian fresh cut wedges for desert at a restaurant inside the Pattaya Central Market.

I headed back out on the town around 8 pm and took a baht bus to a couple of blocks north of the Hilton where the FL's begin to congregate in large numbers and then I walked Beach Road the rest of the way to Walking Street. I like to take this stroll in the evening to see all the free lancers. Some of the girls were ok and many gave me the "Hello, handsome" look, but I did not stop to chat and I proceeded to Walking Street. My game plan was simple: to hit a few favorite bars first to see what was up and then if I found nobody to my liking, I would head over to Sensations Go Go and fool around with F and Black Hair. I really liked F, but I was thinking, maybe tonight I should give Black Hair a try. She was just as attractive, but had a completely different look and was at least as friendly F in the bar.

Like the previous night, I first stepped into Sapphire Go Go. There was only one other customer. I saw a couple of nice looking girls and both of them smiled at me as they danced on stage. One of them asked to be invited over. Some girls were topless. I drank my coke light and got up to leave. I hand signaled the cuter girl that I might come back later and she nodded. In my opinion Sapphire is in rough shape. This used to be a great lively bar with a bevy of sexy girls and they always had lots of customers. I have fond memories of sucking girls' nipples in this bar and getting handies under the table. Yeah, I have had some good times here, but from what I saw tonight and last night; I don't think Sapphire will be around for too much longer. It is too bad, although maybe, I just dropped by too early. I hope that was the case.

The next bar I dropped by was Super Girls, another old favorite Go Go of mine. As I approached the front door, I was warmly greeted by the Chinese looking host. Inside it was sad situation too. There were only a couple of Japanese customers and out of the 10 to 15 girls dancing on stage; I didn't see any that really appealed to me. I ordered another coke light just to be friendly. Jeez, this place used to have some of the hottest girls on Walking Street! A waitress came by and suggested I pick a girl. She was kind of attractive in non-Go Go ordinary Thai girl way and I told her that I wanted her. She laughed and said, "I cannot", and then she added, "I am not as pretty or as young as the dancers. " I asked her how old she was and she said 26. I was just kidding around and being friendly, so I told her that she was prettier than the dancers and I wanted her. We both laughed. I circled the bar to make absolutely sure about the talent or lack thereof and then I split.

The 3rd bar I hit was Happy A Go Go and it was a different story here. There were a lot of girls dancing on two different stages and more girls sitting around. The place was packed with customers interacting with the girls. It was a party scene going on here. There was hardly an empty seat, and the overall vibe was, well what can I say, happy. It should be noted that Happy A Go Go is part of the Happy Management Group which includes their flagship Go Go, Baccara, not to be confused with Soi Cowboy's Baccara which is owned by a completely different company; Peppermint Go Go, which is another old time favorite Go Go of mine; and Beach Club. I also should point out that none of the bars in the Happy group have Agency girls and the barfine is a standard 700 bt at any time.

I spotted a hot little number dancing right in front of me as soon as I sat down at the main bar. I was so close to her I could almost touch her. I said Hi, but she did not acknowledge my presence. WTF! I ordered a beer and keep looking around. I spotted a few more hotties, but they didn't seem to appreciate my attention either. There were plenty of other girls smiling at me, but unfortunately they were not as pretty. I sipped my beer and continued to watch the first girl. She sure was hot, but she pretended not to notice me. I realized she had a Japanese style hairdo and look. That explained her attitude, but I couldn't help looking at her from time to time; she was that good. As she left the stage I noticed she headed for a corner and sat alone. Too bad. What a waste of talent, but it is a free country and if she wants to market herself exclusively towards the Asian customers then so be it. I didn't approach her or try to talk her up because of the way she acted towards me on stage. What would be the point?

Meanwhile I turned around and saw this cute little hostess girl in a red dress sitting behind me. I flirted with her a little and thought about buying her a drink. But I also began to think that maybe it was time to head over to Sensations Go Go and find F and Black Hair. I was thinking that I wanted Black Hair tonight.

But before I could find a waitress to ring up my tab, all the current dancers left the main stage and an entirely new set of girls come on board. The second or third new girl on stage was a tall cute girl and she was sporting very large ta ta's. We exchanged glances and she smiled. I smiled back and then looked away, but every time I looked her way, she would keep giving me her big broad smile. Her smile became a magnate to me. I tried to look at some other dancing girls, but some force kept pulling my eyes back to take a look at this big titied girl and every time I looked at her she flashed me her big smile. Normally big titied Thai girls are not my style, but this girl was very cute and had that adorable smile that was set to go off every time I looked at her. What could I do? I resisted her smile as long as I could, but in the end I had to ask her over for a drink. She nodded at my invitation and gave me a Wai, the Thai thank you sign.

After a little while, it was her turn to leave the stage and she came over. I bought her a drink and we talked. Na was charming and very sweet. We held hands and occasionally she brushed her free hand on my dick. We kissed lightly a little. But I wondered about her large breasts and so I came straight out with it and asked if they were real. She smiled and said they were and placed my hand on her breast to prove it. We continued to talk and got more acquainted. I guess it is fair to say I allowed myself get picked up by this smiling girl. Na asked if I wanted to barfine her and I said yes rationalizing that my Sensation girls would keep until tomorrow night. The Happy Go Go standard barfine is 700 bt, and and said she wanted 2500 bt for ST. It seemed a tad high considering I usually pay 2000 bt for ST and 2000 bt was the sum Fa had asked for too over in Sensations. But I don't like to negotiate. I feel it ruins the vibe. Na's price was at the high end to be sure, but not out of line for Walking Street Go Go girls these days and she had a very pleasing way about her, so I agreed to the price. The Mama came by and I paid the barfine plus my drink tab. Meanwhile Na left to go get dressed.

When she came back I asked her if she wanted to have a real drink and she said she knew a bar where prices were cheaper and if I wanted she would take me there. So off we went. Her friendly bar is called Girow Topoli and it is located down the Soi 15 past What's Up Go Go and very close to 2nd road. It turned out that Na's sister was a waitress here and she and Na shared a room in the back. So we went to her bar for after barfine drinks. The sister was nice and friendly and I met the owner and a ladyboy friend of Na's. We ordered 2 Mai Tais, Na's drink of choice, Ugh, too sweet, I can't remember the last time I had a Mai Tai, but I had a good time talking, holding hands, and occasionally kissing Na. We also watched a Thai soap opera while hanging out at this cozy little bar. Na's sister took good care of us and I was made to feel very much at home here. Na wanted to smoke the Shisha so I bought her a bowel. She tried to turn me on to it and I took a couple of hits, but Shisha ain't for me. If only it were weed, it would have been another story and I probably would have rented a room here. 555. Anyway, I had a good time drinking and relaxing with Na and her sister in this small low key bar / restaurant.

After our Mai Tai's we headed back to my hotel via motorcycle taxi. Na sat in between the driver and me. I held her tight. She practically rode my dick the whole way back. In my room Na was surprisingly a little shy about her body. She told me she was 26 and had two kids. She said she was a little embarrassed about her large boobs. I asked her to show them to me and she took them out of her bra. I must say, her two large natural "De" cups were an impressive sight and I noted that they were still holding up pretty well. I mean you have to expect some gravitational effects when you are talking about a mass this large, but they looked pretty good to me and considering the fact that I normally prefer much smaller breasts on my Asian girls, this is a compliment on my part. But the feature that really caught my eye was Na's huge brown areolas. She had the largest areolas I have ever seen on a Thai girl! They were slightly larger than an American silver dollar. Naturally, I told and her breasts were beautiful and she said, "really?" and I quickly moved over and started kissing and fondling them to show her I meant what I said.

Still a little shy, Na wanted to shower alone and I did not press my preference for a soapy shower on her. Afterwards Na came out of the bathroom wrapped in a towel and got into bed. I gave her the TV remote and took a fast shower. After I cleaned up and dried off, I joined her. I started out slow with Na and we exchanged a lot of wet kisses. Then I slowly unwrapped her. I started kissing her large boobs and then she started kissing my nipples. Eventually she worked her way down to my cock where at first she just kissed my dick, but then later she took the whole tool into in her mouth and smoked me proper. I brought her back upstairs and she asked for a condom. I said I wasn't ready yet and I got on top of her in between her legs. I began to massage her pussy with my dick. There was no penetration. I was just gliding my dick gently in between her pussy lips parallel to her body. I kept this up for a while until Na softly asked me for a condom and I reached over on the nightstand and gave her one.

Na wrapped me up and got on top. My dick glided into her pussy like a hot knife cutting through room temperature butter. Despite having two kids, Na's pussy felt real good. Na proceeded to ride me cowgirl, at first on her knees, then Asian cowgirl with her feet planted flat on the bed. After 15 minutes or so, I could see that she was getting tired, poor darling, so I rolled her over and took over in mish. We started kissing heavy now and she gave me her tongue to suck. Then I moved down to her large tits and started kissing her brown puffy nipples. She was moaning softly. Slowly I felt my orgasm building and then I came.

Afterwards we laid together and recovered. She cleaned me off and then we took a shower together. Na was no longer shy in front of me. She told me I was her first customer that she has ever showered with. Uhmmm? But then she didn't seem all too familiar with what to do in the shower with a man and I showed her how to soap up my dick and wash it in an erotic way. I then soaped up her large chest and start body massaging her breasts. She seemed to like what was going on and we kissed some more. I was hard again and started rubbing my cock against her body slightly above her vagina. I had to stop pretty soon though or else I would have been bareback riding her in the shower.

After soapy shower time, Na asked if I wanted her to stay the night. I thought about it a little, I kind of wanted a 2nd round and it would have been nice, but in the end, I decided against it. I gave her my standard line that on a first date I prefer ST so we can get to know each other and then look forward to a LT on the 2nd date. It was after midnight so actually Na and I had been together 3 hours since around 9 pm. It was a GFE to be sure. She was very adorable and sexy. A very sweet girl, but I think she is looking for a steady boyfriend. We exchanged cell numbers and she asked me to call her tomorrow. She said she would like to come by my hotel around 8 pm. I ask her if that meant I did not have to pay her barfine? And she said, "no still must pay barfine. " After we hook up, we will go to Happy, but she wanted to come my hotel first so she would not have to get dressed tomorrow night and dance on stage. I assumed it was also because she wanted to nail down another night with me. LOL. Anyway, I told her I was not sure what I was doing tomorrow at 8, so she should not come by until we talked. I assured her I would call her tomorrow.

So with that out of the way, I put 3000 bt (2500 bt plus 500 bt tip) in her purse and I escorted and down to the lobby. She kissed me like she really meant it as we walked down the dark Holiday Inn driveway to Beach Road. We said goodbye and she got on a baht bus back to her bar / apartment. She gave me one of her baby doll smiles that hooked me in the first place and then she waved as the baht buss took her away. I headed over to Lisa bar on 2nd road for a nightcap.

Note: this was another real good night in Pattaya and you could not get a greater divergence in Thai girls between Fa and Na. Both girls were great in their own way. Both girls picked me. And interestingly, the price differential between the two girls was only 300 bt.

Fa was in perfect 22 year old physical condition. She was a good girl and had a very friendly, sexy attitude and personality. She was up for most anything. She had a tight athletic body with not an ounce of fat. We got into some pretty wild sex and I loved going down on her fresh pussy. She had the energy to keep going and going and going. She plum wore me out. LOL.

Na, on the other hand was softer, more vulnerable, and needier. She acted more like an amateur although in an entirely charming way. Na definitely aimed to please and she was very sweet. But, I believe she was / is on the prowl for a steady customer and boyfriend. I had a good time with her, but I am not sure how close I would want to be with her. Fa, on the other hand was pure fun. I think I lean more towards pure fun.

So the relevant question at this point in my brief holiday in Pattaya was; where to go and who to see tomorrow night? And the larger metaphysical issue of the entire trip was; why did I only schedule only 3 nights in Pattaya? The sex capital of South East Asia? I love this town! 3 nights is not enough time here.

[Member #4698]

Day 34 Tuesday April 1, 2014 Pattaya Day 3.

It was deja vu all over again this beautiful morning in Pattaya. First I stopped by my favorite juice lady's stand on 2nd Road and Soi Post Office and bought a few OJ's. Then I went back over to Soi Lengkee to have another great breakfast at the Loaf. I couldn't resist ordering the same thing as yesterday; sticky almond bun, double shot skinny latte, and scrambled eggs with crispy prosciutto on toasted baguette. Exceptionally good and very moderately priced! I really like this place.

Then I went back to Jack's Watch Shop to pick up my 2 Patek Phillipe fake watches. But there was a mix up with the order. I had specifically wanted two large watches, one with the black face and one with the white face. They had two large white faces waiting for me. Since I was planning to give one of the watches to my father anyway, I accepted the incorrect order and agreed to take both white face models. Mr. Jack made a final check and calibration on the watches. The first watch passed the calibration tests and was performing well. Then Mr. Jack discovered that the 2nd white watch was not performing well in either the horizontal or vertical positions and he detected that it was losing an unacceptable 15 seconds per month. Mr. Jack said that this 2nd watch was no good and he would return it and get a new watch for me. So he told to come back to the shop at 9:30 pm and they would have a black face Patek Phillipe waiting for me. I appreciated Mr. Jack's integrity and the quality control checks he performs on his merchandise. He is clearly an honest forthright businessman. He gives a full one year warranties on all his watches and said that if mine ever break down after the warranty was up he would fix them at a modest cost. I told Mr. Jack's shop assistant to hold my white face and I would return at 9:30 to pick up both of my watches.

From the watch shop I walked back to the Holiday inn along Beach Road and worked up a sweat so I spent the next couple of hours relaxing by the pool. I could not help but notice this fat Korean guy with 2 sexy CIS (former Soviet Republic) girls by the pool. He had ordered a bottle of wine and grand lunch for his girls. After a brief plunge in the pool, however, he left the girls alone and went somewhere else to conduct his business. I was just floating around in the far end of the pool, when the girls swam over to approximately where I was. I said Hi and they said Hi back. One of the girls spoke decent English and we talked a little. She had a very sexy body and I could see how the Korean was attracted to these girls. The girl I was speaking to said she usually goes to Club Insomnia on most nights and that I should go there sometime because it was a real nice place. To be friendly I told her I might try to stop by tonight, but I was leaving tomorrow for BKK so I wasn't sure what I was doing tonight. She said, "Oh that is too bad. ".

After pool time I took another long walk down Beach Road to the Marriott and back and then I took a little nap. I woke up around 5 pm and I called Na to see what she was up to. Na answered her phone kind of groggy and told me she was still in bed. I guess she had a late night with my money after she left me last night. Ha Ha. I let her go back to sleep and suddenly I was totally free to do anything that came along. I really liked Na and wanted to see her again, but I also really liked Fa and wanted to shag her again, and I also was seriously thinking about barfining Black Hair, Fa's friend at Sensations, plus there were so many other Go Go's, especially a couple on LK Metro that I wanted to check out. So night was approaching and I was open to any new adventure that might come along. I didn't have a plan or have any idea what I was exactly going to do tonight, but I did know that whatever I chose to do, it was going to be a lot of fun. It was my last night in Pat and I intended to make it count.

It was around 6:30 pm and I couldn't wait around any longer so I headed out. I was getting hungry too and decided to get something to eat. I walked over to Soi 6 and attempted to cross over from Beach Road to 2nd Road, but as I was walking down Soi 6, I spotted a little waif like cutie sitting out front of Red Point Bar. She smiled at me as I passed by. I had bigger ideas in mind for the evening, but for some reason I reversed course a few bars down and went back to Red Point to flirt a little and see what was up. It was a pure impulse sex buy at the point of exchange, but what the hell. I bought BeBe a drink inside her bar. She was friendly and demure. She sat close to me and I put my arm around her. She responded positively and I kissed her a little. BeBe said she was 21 and new to Pattaya. She also said she had a baby living at home with her mother. I don't know why exactly, but I decided to shag her. I guess my decision was based partly on the fact that she was kind of cute and different from most Thai girls I had been shagging so far this trip and also because I felt a little edgy and as such did not feel like waiting till later to get it on. Red Point's ST rooms are 300 bt plus BeBe wanted 1000bt. I did not feel like negotiating her down and so I accepted her offer.

The room upstairs was very nice and newly refurbished. I would say it was the nicest Soi 6 ST room that I have ever been in. BeBe, it turned, out was a kisser and we spent a lot of time on the bed making out. She seemed a little shy about taking a shower with me, but I convinced her of it's merits. Then, once we were both in the shower, BeBe did not appear to know what to do with our wet and naked bodies. I was patient with her and I told her she should clean me. She lathered up and started to give me a soapy handie. I palmed her breasts and played with her pussy a little. Then I soaped up and body massaged her. Back on the bed we kissed a lot more and I began massaging with her small breasts. She went down and smoked me pretty good. Then it was time for boom boom. The sex was basic mish, nothing elaborate, yet despite her lack of skills, the sex was surprisingly very good. The fact was that little BeBe turned me on by acting inexperienced and she ended up giving me a really satisfying shag. She could not compare to Fa or Na, my Walking Street Go Go sex buddies and she seemed to be straight from the rice paddy. But damn, apparently I needed a little of her back to basics, old fashioned sex. She took the edge right off and I felt real good after I left Red Point.

I had dinner again at the Pattaya central market. This time I had squid in lemon sauce, som tom, and a mango smoothie. It was almost 9 pm by the time dinner was over. Where does the time go? I crossed the street and went to Mr. Jacks. My black face Patek was waiting for me. Mr. Jack tested and calibrated it. The watch performed well. He gave me two complimentary travel boxes for my watches as he had promised earlier and I thanked him. I was very happy with both watches. They looked beautiful and very authentic, even down to the leather wrist band and Patek Philippe's unique way of clasping the band in place. Mr. Jack advised me not to drop the watches or get them wet. For 2500 bt a piece I don't think you can find better quality replicas. The watches are great copies of two $25,000 originals. My Dad loved his gift. I let him pick which model he preferred and he chose the white face. He wears it every time we have lunch together. Both watches are still keeping real good time.

I thanked Mr. Jack and said goodbye. Then I took a motorcycle taxi back to my hotel in order to drop off the watches, but the taxi guy slowed down for some reason in front of Lisa Bar and I noticed a couple of sexy dancers gyrating on one of the small stages, so I decided to get off here. The bar was going pretty strong and I fancied a couple of the dancers. I ordered a beer and cooled out watching the girls. Around 10 pm I got a call from Na asking where I was and did I want to see her tonight? She said she was not going to Happy Go Go tonight after all. I told her I was at Lisa Bar and said she should come by and meet me here. About a half hour later she joined me. As soon as she saw me, she flashed that beautiful warm smile of hers and I was glad to see her again. We both had a beer and held hands under the table. Then we walked back to the Holiday Inn arm in arm.

We made out as we watched a little TV and had two more beers. Then it was shower time. Na was no longer shy. We played around in the shower and then moved back to the bed were things got hot pretty fast. Na went down on me and started kissing my dick. I asked her to turn towards the foot of the bed and to straddle my body with one of her legs so I could 69 her. Na has a real nice ass and I found being in this posterior position in regards to her body really turned me on. I started slow by kissing her outer lips and inner thigh area. Then I licked her labia minora and inserted my tongue as far as it would go into her vagina. By this time Na was very wet. Finally I began sucking her clit and I ended up taking the whole thing and then some into my mouth. All the while Na was smoking me and taking my dick in as far as it would go into her mouth. I stopped things just before climax time and brought Na back up to me and we made out.

I then rolled her over and got on top. Like last night I placed my dick between her two inner lips and began to massage her. But tonight, I think we both got carried away a little and after 7 or 8 minutes of massaging her labia minora, I lowered the glide path of my dick and pulled back. When I moved close in again my head was just inside her vagina. I looked at her to see if she was ok with what I was about to do. She smiled at me with her eyes half closed and pulled me close into her embrace. I glided all the way into her warm pussy in one smooth movement. The sex was better than the previous night. Tonight I could really feel her and there was an intimacy between us that was pretty remarkable. I did not last very long.

Afterwards we cuddled and held each other tight for a long time. Then we took a leisurely shower together. Back in bed I told Na this was my last night in Pattaya and I would like her to spend the night. She said she wanted to stay. We watched part of a ridiculous James Franco and Danny McBride movie called, "Your Highness" that made us laugh and we played around some more. I fell asleep with Na sprawled on top of me and then later I woke up while it was still dark outside with a hard on. I moved over onto my side still holding Na. She woke up and we started kissing lightly. I then took her from the side and then later got on top for the finale. We both fell asleep after this session.

I awoke for good around 9 am. Na was still out. I turned on the TV to watch some news and she woke up. After looking around a bit and getting her compass straight, Na started to look like she was going to go back to sleep or something, so I reminded her that I had to leave soon. She got up and went to the bathroom. I joined her in the shower and we played around some more and made out. Then we both got dressed. I put 4000 bt in her purse. I was hungry and I asked her if she wanted to have some breakfast with me. She said yes and we took a motorcycle taxi to the Loaf. This time I experimented with an almond croissant, double shot skinny latte, and scrambled eggs with crispy prosciutto on toasted baguette. Na had coffee and a banana pancakes. After breakfast we said goodbye. Na looked a little sad. I told her I really liked her and we would text each other while I was in America. She said she liked me too and I should not forget her. I put her on a motorcycle taxi and waived as she was driven off. Na was a real sweetie. I won't forget her or her warm smile.

[Jack Of Spades]

Day 34 Tuesday April 1, 2014 Pattaya Day 3.

Loved your reports man! Great to hear about your good times.

Thank you so much for sharing!

Jack of Spades.

[Gus69]

Two more fantastic TRs Natty. Where exactly is Jacks watch shop, I have never heard of it but it sounds a good place if I decide to buy a fake watch. Previously I have used Sara in the market.

[LifeIsABeach]

Then I went back to Jack's Watch Shop to pick up my 2 Patek Phillipe fake watches. But there was a mix up with the order. I had specifically wanted two large watches, one with the black face and one with the white face. They had two large white faces waiting for me. Since I was planning to give one of the watches to my father anyway, I accepted the incorrect order and agreed to take both white face models. Mr. Jack made a final check and calibration on the watches. The first watch passed the calibration tests and was performing well. Then Mr. Jack discovered that the 2nd white watch was not performing well in either the horizontal or vertical positions and he detected that it was losing an unacceptable 15 seconds per month. Mr. Jack said that this 2nd watch was no good and he would return it and get a new watch for me. So he told to come back to the shop at 9:30 pm and they would have a black face Patek Phillipe waiting for me. I appreciated Mr. Jack's integrity and the quality control checks he performs on his merchandise. He is clearly an honest forthright businessman. He gives a full one year warranties on all his watches and said that if mine ever break down after the warranty was up he would fix them at a modest cost. I told Mr. Jack's shop assistant to hold my white face and I would return at 9:30 to pick up both of my watches.Don't know how much you paid for the fake watches but they will not last long and the shine will go away. If you want, I have a genuine all gold, inside and out including the strap Phillipe Patek watch now worth USD $100,000. 00. There are no batteries in the watch. It has to be hand wound.

[Jack Of Spades]

Two more fantastic TRs Natty. Where exactly is Jacks watch shop, I have never heard of it but it sounds a good place if I decide to buy a fake watch. Previously I have used Sara in the market.Soi Buakhoa, 2nd shop in from Pattaya Klang side according to Google.

[Member #4698]

Where exactly is Jacks watch shop, I have never heard of it but it sounds a good place if I decide to buy a fake watch. Previously I have used Sara in the market.


Soi Buakhoa, 2nd shop in from Pattaya Klang side according to Google.I like Mr. Jack. He is a good guy and stands behind his products.


Don't know how much you paid for the fake watches but they will not last long and the shine will go away. If you want, I have a genuine all gold, inside and out including the strap Phillipe Patek watch now worth USD $100,000. 00. There are no batteries in the watch. It has to be hand wound.I paid 2500 bt for each replica. All Phillipe Patek watches are hand wound as far as I know. My fake Patek is a self wound watch as well. It is a quality replica made in Taiwan. I am not comparing these watches to a genuine Phillipe Patek other than in a superficial casual way. They would not fool a watch expert for 5 minutes although they could fool me and most of my friends under the right circumstances. I showed my two fakes to a watch dealer in the USA. He said they were quality fakes and added that he thought I paid a very good price for them.

A genuine Phillipe Patek is a work of art. My father gave me his genuine Philippe Patek for my 30th birthday. He paid $6500 for it in 1970 when he was in Geneva. I recently showed my Patek to a Sotheby watch expert and he said it was worth at least $25000 in today's market if I were to put it up for auction, which I will not do for sentimental reasons. The fakes are just for fun. I bought my two watches from Mr. Jack in April and they are still ticking so so far I think I got a good deal ie they are good quality inexpensive working watches.

BTW, there is no way I would take a real Phillipe Patek to Pattaya, BKK, Manila, or anywhere else.

[Jack Of Spades]

I like Mr. Jack. He is a good guy and stands behind his products.

But sure with a name like Jack he cannot possibly be a bad guy!

I will definitely be paying him a visit on my next trip. Thanks for the info and the recommendation.

Jack of Spades.

[Otari]

Do you have any experience / comments about taking a flight from Pattaya to Koh Samui?

I would like to try night live there combined with nice beaches besides mongering. Is it worth or it's better to stay in Pattaya only? I'm looking for other destinations that the triangle Bangkok. Pattaya – Phuket offering some sightseeing between sex sessions. Isaan might be a destination for example, but what to do there except of fucking? Would you have any idea?

[Otari]

I have about 3 weeks to spend in Thailand and I'm looking for an itinerary. I'm looking for sightseeing and mongering, as I can't fuck 3 weeks without a break. I know Bangkok quite well. The nightlife is very good there, but it's not very much to do there for me. I was thinking to try Pattaya, but I'm afraid that after a couple of days I'll be bored. Therefore I thought about doing some overnights trips around. Is Koh Samet or Koh Chang worth to go? I mean for sure there are nice beaches, but is there as well some action as well? Or maybe an idea would be to go to Cambodia for example? Could Sihanoukville be a nice (and safe) destination?

[LifeIsABeach]

BTW, there is no way I would take a real Phillipe Patek to Pattaya, BKK, Manila, or anywhere else.I have only worn my Phillipe Patek watch a handful of times. Only on special occasions because of what it is and what it is worth. Everything hand made and gold. No way do I take it to mongering destinations. I just wear a Raymond Weil watch for everyday purposes. Enjoy your watches.

[Paul Kausch]

I paid 2500 bt for each replica. All Phillipe Patek watches are hand wound as far as I know. My fake Patek is a self wound watch as well. It is a quality replica made in Taiwan. I am not comparing these watches to a genuine Phillipe Patek other than in a superficial casual way. They would not fool a watch expert for 5 minutes although they could fool me and most of my friends under the right circumstances. I showed my two fakes to a watch dealer in the USA. He said they were quality fakes and added that he thought I paid a very good price for them.

A genuine Phillipe Patek is a work of art. My father gave me his genuine Philippe Patek for my 30th birthday. He paid $6500 for it in 1970 when he was in Geneva. I recently showed my Patek to a Sotheby watch expert and he said it was worth at least $25000 in today's market if I were to put it up for auction, which I will not do for sentimental reasons. The fakes are just for fun. I bought my two watches from Mr. Jack in April and they are still ticking so so far I think I got a good deal ie they are good quality inexpensive working watches.

BTW, there is no way I would take a real Phillipe Patek to Pattaya, BKK, Manila, or anywhere else.


I have only worn my Phillipe Patek watch a handful of times. Only on special occasions because of what it is and what it is worth. Everything hand made and gold. No way do I take it to mongering destinations. I just wear a Raymond Weil watch for everyday purposes. Enjoy your watches.The company's name is Patek Phillipe, not Phillipe Patek. Look at your watch's dial closely. Antoni Patek was a Polish watchmaker in Geneva who together with the French watchmaker Adrien Philippe formed Patek Philippe & Co in 1851. The company has been owned by the Stern family since 1932. By the way, Patek Phillipe is one of the few Swiss watch manufacturers to make their own components. Most of their watches are mechanical, but they do manufacture a quartz movement that is used by Omega and other watch companies.

Natty, enjoying your excellent reports, which are among the few posts worth reading of late, hence my silence. Hate to be so critical, but that's my opinion. Will be in Bangkok in about 6 weeks. Looking forward to more adventures. Hoping to set up another group activity. The more the merrier! Also going to spend some time in HK and Macau.

[Wolvenvacht]

I know Bangkok quite well. The nightlife is very good there, but it's not very much to do there for me.If you cannot find anythng to do in Bangkok, then it will be difficult to entertain you anywhere else. Have you tried Kanchanaburi (of "Bridge over the River Kwai"-fame) yet?


I was thinking to try Pattaya, but I'm afraid that after a couple of days I'll be bored.Many things to see and do in Pattaya, besides the obvious mongering sites: Sanctuary of Truth, Waterpark, Floating Market, Nong Nooch Gardens, Ripley's Believe It or Not, ...

[Otari]

If you cannot find anythng to do in Bangkok, then it will be difficult to entertain you anywhere else. Have you tried Kanchanaburi (of "Bridge over the River Kwai"-fame) yet?
Thank you for advice Wolvenvacht.

In Bangkok there are plenty of things to do, I love this city, but I like to move around and see new things. I'm living in a big city and spending my holidays in a big city as well isn't a perfect option for me. However big cities may imply good mongering while in small cities / rural areas there is usual no action. I'm looking for a balance between those 2 things. Would it be Koh Samui an option?

Is in Kanchanaburi any action or you it's nice for seeing the famous bridge or other 'classical' tourist attractions?

[Mogwai]

I have about 3 weeks to spend in Thailand and I'm looking for an itinerary. I'm looking for sightseeing and mongering, as I can't fuck 3 weeks without a break. I know Bangkok quite well. The nightlife is very good there, but it's not very much to do there for me. I was thinking to try Pattaya, but I'm afraid that after a couple of days I'll be bored. Therefore I thought about doing some overnights trips around. Is Koh Samet or Koh Chang worth to go? I mean for sure there are nice beaches, but is there as well some action as well? Or maybe an idea would be to go to Cambodia for example? Could Sihanoukville be a nice (and safe) destination?Sihanoukville has some nice beaches but it's quite a small town and other than that there's not much to see. And beside that it takes a long time to get from Bangkok or Pattaya to Sihanoukville. It took me something like 12 hours back in 2007. If you want to go to Sihanoukville then get there from Phnom Penh, it's much easier.

I think Phnom Penh is a better destination for you if you decide to go to Cambodia (which I can highly recommend; very nice people and beautiful ladies). Many things to see there, like the Royal Palace, the Killing Fields and the Tuol Sleng Museum (S21).

[Daddy07]

The company's name is Patek Phillipe, not Phillipe Patek. Look at your watch's dial closely. Antoni Patek was a Polish watchmaker in Geneva who together with the French watchmaker Adrien Philippe formed Patek Philippe & Co in 1851. The company has been owned by the Stern family since 1932. By the way, Patek Phillipe is one of the few Swiss watch manufacturers to make their own components. Most of their watches are mechanical, but they do manufacture a quartz movement that is used by Omega and other watch companies.

Natty, enjoying your excellent reports, which are among the few posts worth reading of late, hence my silence. Hate to be so critical, but that's my opinion. Thank you for your opinion, Paul. That's just what we all needed here on the Pattaya forum; a condescending history lesson together with a well deserved chastisement for mostly mediocre reporting.

[Weben]

While I am not a huge fan of Thailand, there is a point made below. Generally, I prefer a friends with benefits relationship and have that with several women. However, I still meet the occasional Asian woman for my own selfish needs. While I do not speak Thai, I do speak some Mandarin and Vietnamese. Even in the US, when I meet a Chinese woman who is here working, as soon as I say just a few words in Mandarin (Putonghua), they reach so friendly and start asking me how I know Mandarin. I explain I worked in Singapore for a while and what is probably a boring session for some typical American, goes to a near GFE with a Chinese provider here in the US.

Thus, I can see that if you show interest in a Thai woman and ask about more than just her sexual acts, you will build a connection. I just wish I could speak Korean as there are so many KAMP establishments in the US I would probably have a much better time. But frankly, women, even if working, enjoy attention and a man who shows interest in what they enjoy and who they are. Nearly all the "freebie" (FWB) arrangements I have are with Chinese women because I speak a little Mandarin. That earns respect which goes much deeper than looks or money.

So, good points. Treat the women with respect, but use caution.


Why, yes. Yes, I can enjoy staying with a total stranger.

After a day, they're no longer a stranger. Of course you have to make a bit of an effort, but it almost always pays off. I can count on one hand, with fingers left over, the number of dud long-times I've had, both in BKK and PTY.

The key is to show interest in the things THEY like. So, you discuss their family. You eat what she eats. Hang out at some Thai clubs. I draw the line at Thai soap operas, but taking in a Thai movie (with English subtitles) can be rewarding. You can learn a lot about the country and the culture from some of the girls. Yes, some of it may be a bit of low-class culture, but it's all good. You would be surprised at how interesting some (certainly not all) of the girls can be, once you get past the language barrier.

One caveat is you need somebody a bit on the older side. I don't care what country you're in, an 18 year old girl is a blithering idiot. But late 20's. Early 30's can make excellent rent-a-companions.

[Daddy San]

....The company's name is Patek Phillipe, not Phillipe Patek. Look at your watch's dial closely. Antoni Patek was a Polish watchmaker in Geneva who together with the French watchmaker Adrien Philippe formed Patek Philippe & Co in 1851. The company has been owned by the Stern family since 1932. By the way, Patek Phillipe is one of the few Swiss watch manufacturers to make their own components. Most of their watches are mechanical, but they do manufacture a quartz movement that is used by Omega and other watch companies....

Thank you for your opinion, Paul. That's just what we all needed here on the Pattaya forum; a condescending history lesson together with a well deserved chastisement for mostly mediocre reporting.Ignorance is Bliss!

Clearly, a Patek Phillipe watch is not for everybody.

[Member #4698]

The company's name is Patek Phillipe, not Phillipe Patek. Look at your watch's dial closely. Antoni Patek was a Polish watchmaker in Geneva who together with the French watchmaker Adrien Philippe formed Patek Philippe & Co in 1851. The company has been owned by the Stern family since 1932. By the way, Patek Phillipe is one of the few Swiss watch manufacturers to make their own components. Most of their watches are mechanical, but they do manufacture a quartz movement that is used by Omega and other watch companies.

Natty, enjoying your excellent reports, which are among the few posts worth reading of late, hence my silence. Hate to be so critical, but that's my opinion. Will be in Bangkok in about 6 weeks. Looking forward to more adventures. Hoping to set up another group activity. The more the merrier! Also going to spend some time in HK and Macau.Of course you are right, Paul. Patek Phillipe is the name of the watch company. I noticed your absence from the forum. I assumed you had had enough of it and were calling it quits. If my dyslexic error had any influence on bringing you back, then I am glad. 555.

I envy you, your upcoming trip. Sadly, I will not be back in pussy heaven until late February. In addition to BKK, I think you are going to like Macau. The Saunas have fabulous girls and there are great dining opportunities all over the city, but I warn you, Macau is really expensive. Bring your credit card and have a great time!

[SeriousSam]

Do you have any experience / comments about taking a flight from Pattaya to Koh Samui?

I would like to try night live there combined with nice beaches besides mongering. Is it worth or it's better to stay in Pattaya only? I'm looking for other destinations that the triangle Bangkok. Pattaya Phuket offering some sightseeing between sex sessions. Isaan might be a destination for example, but what to do there except of fucking? Would you have any idea?Amazing place koh samui you will have fun there, less commercial then the famous places in Bangkok.

[Paul Kausch]

Thank you for your opinion, Paul. That's just what we all needed here on the Pattaya forum; a condescending history lesson together with a well deserved chastisement for mostly mediocre reporting.Your welcome Daddy. By the way, I was not being condescending. My experience is most people believe the company's name is Phillipe Patek, thinking Phillipe is the founder's first name. A former girlfriend set me straight years ago after she got tired of listening to me say the company's name wrong and watching her blue-blooded friends smile as I betrayed my plebeian background. Her friends were being condescending. I thought they were smiling and nodding with approval as I told them I had a hard time justifying spending tens of thousands of dollars on a "Phillipe Patek" watch.

[Paul Kausch]

I assumed you had had enough of it and were calling it quits.

In addition to BKK, I think you are going to like Macau. The Saunas have fabulous girls and there are great dining opportunities all over the city, but I warn you, Macau is really expensive. Bring your credit card and have a great time!I've been reading the forum; and started a few posts only to realize I had nothing to say worth posting. You're many posts, individually and especially collectively, are among the best I have read in a very long time. I really like the way you explain how you spend your time in Bangkok. You make it very clear there are many fun things to do besides chasing skirts and having sex. A newcomer to the forum curious about mongering in Bangkok would get many ideas on where to go and how to spend his time. My primary interest in HK is just to see the city. As is the case with many cities I've visited, I know the airport, a couple of nearby hotels and little else. I've read your posts and others on the Macau forum and found them very valuable. I am looking forward to the Saunas and have budgeted accordingly.

[LifeIsABeach]

By the way, I was not being condescending. My experience is most people believe the company's name is Phillipe Patek, thinking Phillipe is the founder's first name. A former girlfriend set me straight years ago after she got tired of listening to me say the company's name wrong and watching her blue-blooded friends smile as I betrayed my plebeian background. Her friends were being condescending. I thought they were smiling and nodding with approval as I told them I had a hard time justifying spending tens of thousands of dollars on a "Phillipe Patek" watch.We do not care for your girlfriend nor a condensing history lesson. What happens in your private life should not be brought over to here. No need to be condensing to us just because your girlfriend's friends were. People familiar with Patek watches know what one is talking about how ever the name is said. It probably matters more to those who do not have a Patek watch. I wear the watch for my own choice, not to show to people that I am wearing a Patek watch. "Hey everybody, look, I am wearing a Patek Phillipe watch" That's not me. I could care less.

[Paul Kausch]

We do not care for your girlfriend nor a condensing history lesson. What happens in your private life should not be brought over to here. No need to be condensing to us just because your girlfriend's friends were. People familiar with Patek watches know what one is talking about how ever the name is said. It probably matters more to those who do not have a Patek watch. I wear the watch for my own choice, not to show to people that I am wearing a Patek watch. "Hey everybody, look, I am wearing a Patek Phillipe watch" That's not me. I could care less.I don't care for my ex-girlfriend either. I thought a condensing explanation would be better than an expansive explanation. As for her friends' condensing remarks, they were being condescending, not condensing, though I often felt like condensing a few of their noses. The watch stuff was just the silly opening to a post that was meant to thank my friend Natty for writing some great reports. By the way I wear a Citizens that I bought cheap because it was a factory second. Some of the paint is missing from the dial, which I proudly point out to my friends along with the dirt cheap price I paid for it.

[Wolvenvacht]

Thank you for advice Wolvenvacht.

In Bangkok there are plenty of things to do, I love this city, but I like to move around and see new things. I'm living in a big city and spending my holidays in a big city as well isn't a perfect option for me. However big cities may imply good mongering while in small cities / rural areas there is usual no action. I'm looking for a balance between those 2 things. Would it be Koh Samui an option?

Is in Kanchanaburi any action or you it's nice for seeing the famous bridge or other 'classical' tourist attractions?I was in Kanchanaburi a few years ago and saw one bar where some single ladies were sitting outside. I *think* they were bargirls but I did not enquire further as they were not very attractive. I went to a massage parlour but I was not offered any happy ending. It was a very good massage though.

I m sure there will be more mongering opportunities, but probably more geared toward the local people as Kanchanaburi is mainly visited by tourists on a day trip out of Bangkok.

As military history is a hobby of mine, I took one day of visiting all the war-musea and cemetaries in town (the museum next to the central war cemetary is the best). The next day I chartered a taxi and went to visit Hell Fire Pass and its museum and I walked a part of the Death Railway.

If you want to make sure not to sleep alone in Kanchanaburi, I suggest you bring your own companion.

[Otari]

I was in Kanchanaburi a few years ago and saw one bar where some single ladies were sitting outside. I *think* they were bargirls but I did not enquire further as they were not very attractive. I went to a massage parlour but I was not offered any happy ending. It was a very good massage though.

I m sure there will be more mongering opportunities, but probably more geared toward the local people as Kanchanaburi is mainly visited by tourists on a day trip out of Bangkok.

As military history is a hobby of mine, I took one day of visiting all the war-musea and cemetaries in town (the museum next to the central war cemetary is the best). The next day I chartered a taxi and went to visit Hell Fire Pass and its museum and I walked a part of the Death Railway.

If you want to make sure not to sleep alone in Kanchanaburi, I suggest you bring your own companion.Many thanks Wolvenvacht is seems to be a perfect day trip from Bangkok to recover from intensive mongering.

[Otari]

Amazing place koh samui you will have fun there, less commercial then the famous places in Bangkok.Thank you Sam for advice. Where is better to stay for good action in Chaweng or Lamai beach? I heard about Green Mango club on Chaweng beach, is it the best place in Koh Samui?

[Otari]

Sihanoukville has some nice beaches but it's quite a small town and other than that there's not much to see. And beside that it takes a long time to get from Bangkok or Pattaya to Sihanoukville. It took me something like 12 hours back in 2007. If you want to go to Sihanoukville then get there from Phnom Penh, it's much easier.

I think Phnom Penh is a better destination for you if you decide to go to Cambodia (which I can highly recommend; very nice people and beautiful ladies). Many things to see there, like the Royal Palace, the Killing Fields and the Tuol Sleng Museum (S21).Thanks Mogwai for info. I thought to do a trip for a couple of days while being in Pattaya. I enjoy being on the way and don't mind travelling with local buses. I've been in Phnom Penh and it is really an interesting city with nice mongering possibilities.

Is there nice action in Sihanoukville or maybe in some places on the way there from Pattaya, for example Koh Chang (Thailand) or Koh Kong (Cambodia)? If there are nice beaches only, it is may be not worth going there. And last but not least, I'm a little bit afraid about the security in Cambodia.

[LifeIsABeach]

Is there nice action in Sihanoukville or maybe in some places on the way there from Pattaya, for example Koh Chang (Thailand) or Koh Kong (Cambodia)? If there are nice beaches only, it is may be not worth going there. And last but not least, I'm a little bit afraid about the security in Cambodia.I never had any fear in Cambodia. Sihanoukville has action at the beaches, Victory Hill and also downtown. I like this small peaceful town where you have a big dinner for about USD $4. 00. Read the Cambodia section for more info. Take the 14 person van from PP to Sihanoukville. Takes about 4 hours and about USD $10.00.

[Bigtw]

First time in Pattaya.

Base on recommendations on this forum, I went to Honey 2 MP last night and learnt that prices were much higher than from what I've read from some other forum member. The prices I was told were: 3000 bahts for models, 2500 for ladies with blue number tags, and 2200 for those with red number tags. Those prices seems kind of high to me, am I wrong?

Pick a model for 3000 baht. The girl was pretty and friendly but service seems rushed (might be the case because I was there during peak hour. About 9 pm), she finished me off within about 40 minutes total. Does anybody here knows of some other comparable MP (in terms of girl quality) with more reasonable?

Thanks in advance.

[Mogwai]

I never had any fear in Cambodia.Me neither. In some (older) field reports people said that 'Cambodia is not for the faint hearted' but to be honest I've never understood that. And I'm not a very impressive guy, LOL! Just take the usual precautions as you do anywhere else.

The only time when I felt a little bit uneasy was when a normal looking young guy (early 20's I think and dressed in jeans and t-shirt) bent over in the bus right next to me to get his stuff and I saw a gun in his waistband. But that would have scared me in any country.

[Bigtw]

First time in Pattaya.

Base on recommendations on this forum, I went to Honey 2 MP last night and learnt that prices were much higher than from what I've read from some other forum member. The prices I was told were: 3000 bahts for models, 2500 for ladies with blue number tags, and 2200 for those with red number tags. Those prices seems kind of high to me, am I wrong?

Pick a model for 3000 baht. The girl was pretty and friendly but service seems rushed (might be the case because I was there during peak hour. About 9 pm), she finished me off within about 40 minutes total. Does anybody here knows of some other comparable MP (in terms of girl quality) with more reasonable?

Thanks in advance.

[Uncle Volodya]

First time in Pattaya.

Base on recommendations on this forum, I went to Honey 2 MP last night and learnt that prices were much higher than from what I've read from some other forum member. The prices I was told were: 3000 bahts for models, 2500 for ladies with blue number tags, and 2200 for those with red number tags. Those prices seems kind of high to me, am I wrong?

Pick a model for 3000 baht. The girl was pretty and friendly but service seems rushed (might be the case because I was there during peak hour. About 9 pm), she finished me off within about 40 minutes total. Does anybody here knows of some other comparable MP (in terms of girl quality) with more reasonable?

Thanks in advance.Strange. I was there end of August and I only remember them having 2 price brackets. Models for 22000 and regulars for 1800.

Are you sure you were at Honey 2? Maybe you were at Honey 1, which is closer to WS? I haven't been there personally so I don't know the pricing.

If its true its not good news.

[Uncle Volodya]

sorry it has taken so long to get this out. i've just been busy as hell getting back to work after a long summer. natty bumpo's wonderful reports have inspire me to finally get off my ass and finish this, my last installment of the may 2014 trip report.

just a reminder: when we left off i had just scored a gfe with a gorgeous young lady i had met in i-bar (see pic). she was the hottest girl of the trip and just a tremendous shag to boot, letting me cim after a vigorous and lengthy session that lasted well into the early morning.

i woke up a few hours later with with a raging hard on. the girl lying next to me was one of the most gorgeous creatures i have ever had in my bed. i steal peeks of her perfect body under the covers and start to stroke her body. but she was still tired and having none of it and drift off to sleep myself.

man thesegirls can sleep!

she woke up a bit later to go to the fridge to get a drink of water. i admired her luscious naked body as she stood by the fridge stark naked, downing the water straight out of the bottle sexy stuff! . i beckoned her back to the bed and we began to kiss. i ran my hands all over that gorgeous body. i couldn't wait to get insider her again. i slipped on a condom and she applied some lube and i slid right into her tight little pussy. she wasn't into it as much as the night before, but i was having too good a time for it to slow me down. we ran through the gamut of positions and i especially enjoyed taking her from behind as i watched her ample boobs jiggling back and forth in the mirror. then she lied down on her tummy giving me an especially good angle to enjoy her supple and toned ass. i finally came, as before, wanking myself off as she licked my balls. the sight of her pretty little tongue flicking in and out of her mouth was just too much and i soon blew my load. this time i jizzed all over her tits instead of her mouth. i didn't want her to run off to the bathroom right away and i wanted to enjoy a nice post coital cuddle with this comely creature.

we cuddled and kissed for a while longer, but soon she had to get up to go. we both took turns taking showers. i continued to molest her as she got dressed. she acted all bothered but i could tell she liked the attention. she is very proud that she is #2 on some kind of i-bar facebook contest for prettiest girl and i promise i will vote for her though i haven't been able to ever find the site. do you guys know what she was talking about.

we held hands as we go downstairs to get her i'd. its been a definite gfe with this girl and i hope to see her again. i kiss her goodbye and she sped away on her motorbike her blonde hair blowing in the breeze.

utterly satisfied i began to plan my day. it was around 3 pm at this point. i had arranged for vew (see pic) from devil's den to come by for an out call at 7.

i spent the next couple of hours packing (i had a flight early next morning), running off to pattaya to get some spices and do some last minute shopping, and cleaning up the place. incidentally i bought a ton of spices to take back with me to cook thai food: dried lemongrass, kafir leaves, galangal, chiles and various curry pastes. i made a great tom yum goong and also tom kah gai for some friends the other night. they absolutely raved about it. having these spices is key and they are really cheap!

i arranged for gaew to come over at 10 pm and to stay the night with me. she told me that she had started her period, but i didn't really care. i toyed with the idea of asking jiang, the new girl to come over, but i've really grown attached to gaew emotionally and i want to spend my last moments and pattaya with her in my arms even if we weren't going to screw. in any case, gaew gave some of the best bjs i have ever had. so i told her i wanted to see her. even if it was "just for hug". lol.

i heard a knock just before 7 and i was surprised to find vew at the door. i wasn't expecting her so early and i was a embarrassed that i was still in my underwear having just taken a shower. she didn't really look like the girl in the picture in the site (see pic below) at first and i had to ask her if she was vew. though she was cute, in person she was definitely a notch down from the pic. if i'd rate the pic a solid 8 i'd only give vew a 7 or so in person. she was a little more worn looking and had a bit too much junk in her trunk for my tastes. admittedly her face was pretty and her boobs were nice and perky.

i offered her a drink but the lady was all business and wanted to get started. i mixed one for myslef and got her a water as she took a shower. she had a big bag of toys with her: assorted dildos, straps, and the like. but that kind of thing really does not do it for me though maybe i should have used a big dildo on her in retrospect. she asked me how many times i wanted to come "1, 2, 10?" which i though was amusing. i laughed and told her one or two would be enough as i've had a lot of sex these past days.

she began with a bj. she had good technique, but vew used some kind of antiseptic gel in her mouth when giving bjs which made me barely feel anything. what's more she really seemed to hate the taste of it and would periodically take a break to spit the stuff out into her towel. this was kind of a turn off, though i still i enjoyed watching her pretty little head bob up an down in my lap. i think i would have been more into it if she had shown more enthusiasm. but i was determined to get my money's worth. eventually i began getting into it. her pussy was surprisingly tight and felt really good, despite all the lube she applied. i ran her through all the positions. i especially enjoyed the look on vew's face as she tossed her head back in (probably fake) pleasure. from this angle she was absolutely beautiful.

after about a half an hour of pumping i came in her in mish and we rested a bit. we cuddled but she was not all that keen on kissing on the mouth (even though her online profile said this was a service she provided) . nevertheless, having her body next to me soon got me ready for round two. she seemed a bit more into it as i think she was warming up to me a little bit. we repeated the same positions, though this time i held back from coming, as i wanted to save something for my date with gaew later in the evening.

overall the sex did not live up to the pse that dd prides itself on. i was getting much better sex form my fl pickups. on the other hand, it was a pleasant experience and very convenient not having to go out and find a girl not know what kind of service to expect from her when you found her. i guess this is the value dd provides: it's a brand that guarantees consistent and reliable quality. but in this respect it is more like mcdonald's than dom perignon.

nevertheless, if i had the opportunity to call right now as i write this and order a girl to my apartment for a similar experience in moscow for twice the price i would do it in a heartbeat. however, i think there are much better options to be had in pattaya.

vew left and i gave her a kiss goodbye. i think she may be more passionate with me in a repeat session. but she still is a little bit of a cold fish. there are just so many other enticing girls in pattaya. why bother!

i had about an hour to kill before gaew was set to arrive so i showered, made the bed, and got rid of all the used condoms lying around. i finished up these chores just as gaew arrived. i went downstairs to meet her. she looked absolutely adorable in her girlish top and short shirts. despite being 27 and having a kid she still looks like a fresh little teenybopper. she gave me a big kiss and hug and i could tell she was very happy to see me.

we took a nice long walk along dongtang beach, hand in hand and chit chatted. she told me about her life back home in the provinces. how she grew up with out a tv and they only had a radio. "did you at least have internet?" i asked her faux incredulously and we laughed. i think growing up under these circumstances has made her a very centered and realistic person. i just loved her attitude about life and how appreciative she is about the good things she experiences. it made me take stock of my own circumstances and how lucky i am to be living the life i live.

from the beach we walked up to the beer bar complex in jomtien by the big market and found a good bar with a great live band. this was my last night with her and i wanted to leave her with some good memories. i kept buying shots (tequila for me, b52's for her) and we had a great time chatting, laughing, kissing, and singing along to the band. the band played one thai reggae song that was especially catchy and which i knew i'd heard before, with a very familiar "doo-doo-doo thom-tam" chorus. gaew taught me the words and we had fun singing to each other. the band also got into it and played the song a couple more times for us during the evening.

it was after midnight and we were both pretty tipsy, so we got up to leave. i had a car coming to take me to the airport at 5 am, and we wanted to get some alone time together before we left. i tipped the band 100 baht and they waied appreciatively. i asked if gaew was hungry and we stopped to some beef noodle soup at the kiss seafood nearby. tasty and only 50 baht! it also sobered us up a bit.

we were both pretty tired when we got home so we took off our clothes an went straight to bed, gaew keeping her panties on because of her period. as we got cozy we started making out passionately and tenderly, knowing that these would be our last moments together. on her own initiative gaew moved down between my legs and stared giving me marvelous blow job. soft, wet and very deep, nbut nto too much suction. over the last 2 weeks this sweet little girl had really figured out how i liked it. i let my hand wander over her tits and ass. what a relaxing way to tend the day.

she kept at it for quite some time, probably a half hour or more. i was surprised how long she could keep at it with this intensity. she was determined to make me cum. but the tequila and all the cumming from earlier in the day were holding me back. still, i was enjoying it immensely, touched at how hard my little sweetheart was trying to make me happy.

i finally lifted her up to me and told her i would not cum this time. she seemed a little disappointed but i told her it was ok and that i just enjoyed being with her. this made her happy and she drifted off to sleep in my arms.

at this point i only had a couple of hours before the taxi was set to arrive and i did not want to fall asleep. so i got up and took a shower and got my stuff ready as gaew slept. i got back in the bed and cuddled with her a bit, watching her sleep. i was happy to have this little angel in my bed, but sad that my moments in pattaya were slipping away fast. i was really gong to miss pattya and this little gem in particular.

finally it was 5 am and time to get up. my sweet little gaew got up and got dressed without any complaints, despite the lack of sleep. i gave her the usual 2 k baht an additional us 100 bill note as a little present and she hugged me appreciatively. i know you guys may excoriate me for ruining the market, but i had developed a close relationship with this girl and i wanted to do something nice for her. in any case she had earned every penny and more with the kindness and affection she had showed me during the trip.

we sent down to the lobby and i said goodbye to my bell boy buddies. they had taken good care of me during the trip and i gave them each a 100 baht note for their troubles. the taxi was waiting and we piled in, the driver agreeing to drop gaew off at her apartment before taking me to the airport. it was an emotional ride, gaew was in tears as we hugged and held hands. she made me promise not to forget her and that i would see her when i came back. i told her that i would be back by january at the latest, and this seemed to cheer her up a bit. i think both of us were comforted when i talked about all the things we'd do when i came back.

we dropped her off somewhere in central pattaya and we shared one last tender good bye kiss. my last image: her sadly waving goodbye to me as we sped off to the airport.

i was very sad to leave. it has been such a great trip. i had a variety of great experiences with very sexy girls, including some memorable gfes. i met a very special and sexy little girl that i had connected with on an emotional level as well and shared some genuine intimacies with. we are still in touch and chat about once a week on line. i have no illusions about making her my real gf. but an arrangement like natty be's with his ms. m could be a good template for me to follow with this gaew.

and i had barely scratched the surface! getting sick had really slowed me down and forced me to take some nights off. and staying in jomtien had also worked against me exploring daytime / early afternoon options and fully taking advantage of the tasty snacks available on br. i plan to rectify all of these shortcomings when i go back in january. i'll stock up on the vitamin see and airborne for the plane and rent something much closer to the center next time i am in town (maybe vt6?

pattaya is sill alive and kicking. to paraphrase mark twain, naysaying rumors about pattaya's demise are greatly exaggerated.

stay horny my friends.

uncle v.

photos: jiang, vew (from dd website), and a not very revealing one of gaew to protect her anonymity.

[Ej2208]

Do anyone know know if Lucifer or Flexx Club has reopen?

[D Cups]

Great stories from UV who said, "CIM after a vigorous and lengthy session that lasted well into the early morning. Ample boobs jiggling back and forth in the mirror. Licked my balls. Jizzed all over her tits. Definite GFE with this girl". Thanks for the pics, too. She's gorgeous!

[Bigtw]

Strange. I was there end of August and I only remember them having 2 price brackets. Models for 22000 and regulars for 1800.

Are you sure you were at Honey 2? Maybe you were at Honey 1, which is closer to WS? I haven't been there personally so I don't know the pricing.

If its true its not good news.Yup, it was Honey 2, between Soi 2 and Soi 3 on 2nd Rd (close to Pattaya North). Maybe they adjust the prices for the swarm of Chinese on a week long holiday from China. Definitely not Honey 1 closer to LK Metro.

[Bigtw]

Do anyone know know if Lucifer or Flexx Club has reopen?While strolling down WS last night, Lucifer was certainly open.

[Ekspat]

Clearly, a Patek Phillipe watch is not for everybody.And for sure not for the usual Pattaya visitor.

[Mr Enternational]

Do anyone know know if Lucifer or Flexx Club has reopen?Yes, but nobody goes to Lucifer anymore and there are very few people in Flexx. Everybody goes to 808 now.

[V2080]

Hello,

Have any of you tried this massage, any feedback on this.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Tantra-MassageAyur-Balance/635927343112628?ref=hl

Valuable feedback on the would help!

[Member #4599]

Hello,

I have a plan to visit Pattaya and I would like to ask you about your experiences with the blowjob bars in this city.

Do you know if is possible to take some one girl from typical Blowjob Bar to your hotel room spend maybe 3-4 days together and receive in this time many blowjob sessions with CIM, COF etc. Or maybe these are only ST bars? Or maybe is better to take some freelance girl from the Beach Road for the same cum fun?

What kind of experiences do you have?

[Reiner Otto]

I would have looked for a freelance and just given 10000 for the two weeks. And 10000 will most definitely cover her basic bills for the entire month. You are taking her on a vacation and feeding her everyday. Picked up a pretty one (FL, 32 yrs, almost 170 cm) from Red Car on Thursday. Staying with me all the time, 1000 BHT / day, plus a small present once in a while, like shoes or hot pants.

Plus: She seems to be rather "fresh", as no painted finger nails, standard clothes, no tattoos, and too shy, walking naked in the room. Does not suggest expensive restaurants.

Top was a barbecue "All you can Eat" for 200 BHT / person.

Minus: "Skills" need some training Only very limited English language.

[NuMonger]

UncleV,

You are a hell of a guy, and a wonderful person. A thai girl would say," you gooood maaan!

I have drooled over each of your reports, I am terrible at Frs.

Hats off to you. I shall be a week long millionaire in my paradise, pattaya in Nov., and only hope to experience at least 25% of your escapades!!

I have a girl, Ing, very much like your friend Gaew, and we share simillar moments together. So I relate so much to what you felt. Hence this post.

Pattaya and Gaew waits for you and we for your reports.

NM.


Sorry it has taken so long to get this out. I've just been busy as hell getting back to work after a long summer. Natty Bumpo's wonderful reports have inspire me to finally get off my ass and finish this, my last installment of the May 2014 trip report.

Finally it was 5 Am and time to get up. My sweet little Gaew got up and got dressed without any complaints, despite the lack of sleep. I gave her the usual 2 K Baht an additional US 100 bill note as a little present and she hugged me appreciatively. I know you guys may excoriate me for ruining the market, but I had developed a close relationship with this girl and I wanted to do something nice for her. In any case she had earned every penny and more with the kindness and affection she had showed me during the trip.

We sent down to the lobby and I said goodbye to my bell boy buddies. They had taken good care of me during the trip and I gave them each a 100 Baht note for their troubles. The taxi was waiting and we piled in, the driver agreeing to drop Gaew off at her apartment before taking me to the airport. It was an emotional ride, Gaew was in tears as we hugged and held hands. She made me promise not to forget her and that I would see her when I came back. I told her that I would be back by January at the latest, and this seemed to cheer her up a bit. I think both of us were comforted when I talked about all the things we'd do when I came back.

We dropped her off somewhere in central Pattaya and we shared one last tender good bye kiss. My last image: her sadly waving goodbye to me as we sped off to the airport.

I was very sad to leave. It has been such a great trip. I had a variety of great experiences with very sexy girls, including some memorable GFEs. I met a very special and sexy little girl that I had connected with on an emotional level as well and shared some genuine intimacies with. We are still in touch and chat about once a week on LINE. I have no illusions about making her my real GF. But an arrangement like Natty be's with his Ms. M could be a good template for me to follow with this Gaew.

And I had barely scratched the surface! Getting sick had really slowed me down and forced me to take some nights off. And staying in Jomtien had also worked against me exploring daytime / early afternoon options and fully taking advantage of the tasty snacks available on BR. I plan to rectify all of these shortcomings when I go back in January. I'll stock up on the Vitamin see and Airborne for the plane and rent something much closer to the center next time I am in town (maybe VT6?

Pattaya is sill alive and kicking. To paraphrase Mark Twain, naysaying rumors about Pattaya's demise are greatly exaggerated.

Stay horny my friends.

Uncle V.

Photos: Jiang, Vew (from DD website), and a not very revealing one of Gaew to protect her anonymity.

[ActionOriented]

Sunday, 28 September

I feel embarassed in admitting it, but day 2 was a complete bust. Not the best start to the next few days in Pattaya. I would attribute the fault largely to myself (can't help it).

We took a cab from soi 7 in Bangkok to Ekkamai and it was raining heavily in Bangkok at the time. Took a 1:30 pm bus to Pattaya and I think it rained most of the way, I had taken some cold medication and was knocked out for the 2 hour bus journey.

We checked into Inn House on soi 13, close to Walking Street and quickly set out to find some grub. I did have a helpful list of places as suggested by Bunky, but did not get around to finding those places yet. We stopped at Oz Burger near LK Metro and had a hamburger which was prepared well, I will definitely visit this place again.

I was hoping to catch a clean massage at Eden near LK Metro, but it turns out some of my countrymen had spoiled the place for us. In my last visit, we went to Eden every day for 3 days and now they refused to service us. I was annoyed. Walked over to Panaan down the street and got a bone crushing Sports massage. I am guessing a sports massage is typically supposed to be for those that play and work out and therefore a very intense massage, I was in a lot of pain after the massage LOL (Note to self: start working out).

Since Panaan did not focus that much on the feet and walking all around soi Buakhow had made my feet sore, I foot massage was in order. We stopped at Aree Massage on 2nd Road, near Tim Boutique and got foot massages, I also got an extremely painful pedicure, I asked for it, I guess.

Not realising that we were wasting precious hours on getting clean massages we finally managed to set out on the hunt at around 11 pm. I am not sure whether it is that late to find a girl for the night, but we made a stop at soi 6 first. Since I had fond memories from You Twat Bar, I went in and had a couple of drinks with the owner who seemed to recognize me. Even one of the girls recognized me but the girl I had bar fined last time was not to be seen. So BIB were at the premises and we quickly left. Since soi 6 wasn't presenting any worthwhile LT opportunities, we moved onto Walking Street.

Now I was shocked to find the number of Indians on WS, and most of them I am pretty sure were not being allowed into the Go-Gos. We tried Sweethearts A-GoGo first, I had visited this place on my earlier visit, I hadn't bar fined a girl at the time but never had a problem in entry here. This time around however I was asked to pay for a drink at the entry. I informed them that I did not quite have a problem in paying for the drink up front but it is a silly rule to implement. I was told that Indian men come in and do not buy drinks. I wonder how much of it is true, so much had changed in the 2 months that I was away or may be it was just seasonal. More one moves onto high season the chances are that several Go-Gos become much stricter because it is their season to make the real money. In any case, we paid for the drink and were welcomed in. Another strange thing that happened, the girl Dao who approached me last time also did the same this time around. I immediately recognized her, she of course did not recognize me. She was shocked when I remembered her name. So earlier it was never the case that a pre-condition for a lady to come and introduce herself would be that I needed to purchase a drink. I would eventually have bought her and her friend a drink, but I didn't like being schooled on these matters when I had visited this a-GoGo before. Now this place does not have any lookers as such and most girls are on the heavy side, so in order to bar fine one would need to be very drunk. A compromise needed to be made. Since all this entry and LD hassle was leaving a bad taste in the mouth, we check binned and left. It's not likely that I will return to Sweethearts again.

We walked up and down WS for a while, and found one or two pretty (non LB) FL SWs, my friend approached one of them and was quoted 2 K LT. He said he will come back. The girl had vanished in 10 minutes, she was very pretty to have not been snagged. We then moved onto Crazy House, a somewhat new a-GoGo on WS, I had seen it from the outside on my last visit. Since it was after 1 am, the entry norms had got more relaxed and we were welcomed in. The place is small and rectangular, as far as I could tell. Girls were in two gears, 2 piece bikinis and black short tops and short skirts. The girls dressed in black were clearly agency girls (or coyotes), their bar fines were 1 K (even post 1 am) and the girls in the bikinis had a bar fine of 700. The coyotes although did not have great racks, they had amazing figures, each better than the next. I got very friendly with a girl in bangs and braces, and she seemed very enthusiastic giving me a couple of lap dances. When I finally enquired about price, turns out she would do ST for 2,500 and BF was 1,000. An expensive proposition, no reason not to pay it because I had paid the same amount in Bangkok the previous night. But it was just my instinct (perhaps couple with a cheap charlie sense whilst in Pattaya) that I told her I will come back later. Also, I wasn't being allowed to feel up her nether regions in the bar, after a couple of LD's drinks I would think that's fair game, after my last terrible experience at Airport, I just wanted to be sure.

We checked into Angelswitch after that, it is in a sub-soi off WS and the place was empty. They have 5-6 heavy and elderly ladies dancing on stage. We thought that since we had entered, it was only fair to buy a drink and then make an exit. After a drink where the girls tried really hard to get us to bar fine, we just could not. So after another failed attempt at hunting at the Go-Gos, we left. Walked up on Beach Road, saw just one girl who I liked but she wasn't interested, I finally decided to call it a night. On the positive side, I got 8 hours of sleep. It was a terrible start at Pattaya, I know that I will hit back with a vengeance. So I did. It will feature in the next day's report.

No pictures to post since no action I saw. But on a side note, if you are loaded and want to see some pretty coyotes, I would recommend Crazy House. Of course, I cannot confirm their service quality in bed. I am yet to make such an expensive financial decision in Pattaya.

[Mouse1]

AO, hopefully your 1000th report will relate more success!

[Tiger 888]

No pictures to post since no action I saw. But on a side note, if you are loaded and want to see some pretty coyotes, I would recommend Crazy House. Of course, I cannot confirm their service quality in bed. I am yet to make such an expensive financial decision in Pattaya.I have long ago finished with Thailand and their overpriced non service. In Hong Kong I have all the time on my hand and can score cheaper without the need of airfare and hotel. Patience is the better currency for me getting older.

[ActionOriented]

Monday, 29 September

Feeling very down from the previous days events where I went dry in the land of smiles, the clock was ticking and it was time to make it count. Desperation was taking hold and the morning wood was burning through the sheets. I knew if I kept in my zen mode of mongering it was unlikely that Pattaya would become more fun.

I snapped out of it, woke up after doing a little quick office work checking up on e-mails, my friend and I went over to Robin's Nest for an American breakfast and as always, it was good. It was a particularly sunny morning and I am not one who requires tanning. I wanted to avoid the sun, but sometimes when an urge takes ahold of me, I cannot shake it off. With a full belly, we did a quick survey of a couple of hotels near the Buakhow / LK Metro area for the next few days. My friend was feeling like using the pool at the hotel and basically wanted to get away from the sun, I had a different agenda.

Shot 1

I intended to head down soi Honey, on the previous day we had briefly walked down this infamous lane but were just browsing. The best way to find this lane probably is to look out for Fantasy Lounge (on Buakhow) and the tall LBs hanging out from it. I walked from LK Metro to Soi Honey and made a quick survey down the road. Around 1 pm, the talent on offer was not particularly pleasing to the eye. I spotted one particularly attractive girl Ning at PP Massage. She was striking because every thing else was too poor in comparison. I took off my shades to see properly and to ensure that last night's desperation wasn't manifesting itself in a poor choice. I am pleased to say I was in control and the choice was extremely good. I picked her and went upstairs. As most are aware, the massage rooms or wooden partitions at these joints are hardly anything like a massage parlor and more like a short format Soi 6.

I had a quick superficial shower to satisfy the lady and she got down to massaging me. The massage honestly wasn't good and after flipping back onto my back I made it clear to her with my boner that it was time for boom boom. Today BJs would elude me to a large extent. She asked what I wanted, although she seemed to have been working at the place for sometime (at least more than a few months) she pretended to be shy. I immediately said boom boom and nothing else will do. After negotiating price at THB 200 for massage and THB 700 for boom boom we were at it. The room we were in had two partitions and while I initially entered there was no one in the next partition and I was glad that a few awkward sounds would not raise any eyebrows. But I as soon as it was time for boom boom someone else was in the partition next door. So I would have to be quiet and the girl was so used to it by now I wonder if she ever makes a sound while screwing.

The session was satisfying for only one reason, she was pretty and had the right curves, small B cups and perfect skin. The service was nothing to go on about, it was a conventional screw, with 3 position changes. I came fairly quick.

I tipped her THB 100 to make it an even THB 1,000. The thing that I was trying to communicate with her was that I wanted to take her back to my hotel room for round 2 where she could let loose and have some fun in the process. My efforts at communicating this failed and the guy in the next room was now getting into extras mode. I took a quick shower and left. Told Ning before leaving that I will likely come back again, she seemed pleased.

Shot 2

After shot 1 was out of the way, I had a broad grin plastered over my face as I made my way back to the hotel. The climate had improved considerably, but still far from ideal. Did a little bit of work, posted the last days' report which I managed to bang out quicker than anticipated, I felt the need for a massage. The hotel has Narraya massage downstairs so I used the intercom service and called for a girl to be sent to my room. The massage was good, the lady was Nancy, short red hair with bangs and amazing tits. She was very chatty and she genuinely appeared interested in my country, so I briefed her on the essentials. Apparently she had seen some video on youtube regarding a recent incident at a zoo where a tiger mauled a young guy who fell into the cage. Well not the best way to begin a conversation. Anyways I had fun, made the usual overtures that I won't mind some relief, I was informed that only HJ was on offer and apparently client paid THB 700 for it. I LOLed and told her its fine and I do not take HJs and she understood that why would a guy pay for it (although some of her clients do).

After the massage, I took a shower and set out again on the prowl. This time I walked through soi Chaiayapoon twice and on my return I spoke with Pipe Layer a fellow ISG member we made plans to catch up later in the week. Since soi Chaiyapoon did not have anything very attractive and the best that they had on offer was a LB, I walked onward to Soi Honey. I was pleasantly surprised, the talent on offer at Paradise massage was impressive. I mean quite a few of the girls would not be out of place at the smaller aGo-Gos, because what passes off a show girls at Go Gos these days in Pattaya is pretty shocking. I have tried to narrate a few of the shocks I experienced in my previous reports. Wonder who makes the selection of these girls, I have never seen so many heavy and elderly women in such less clothing, like ever.

So I immediately picked the first cutie I saw, and sorry I cannot remember her name. I think it started with a P. I was in a different zone. I just pointed and asked the girl to follow me in. The MMS goes like you need to pay an inclusive THB 1000 for boom boom. I said whatever, threw a thousand her way and off we went upstairs. The negative was that the girl had a slight sag to her breasts, she was just 20. But all natural and reasonably sized not the little lemons on some of the Go-Go girls. The figure and her general appearance were pleasing to me, since I have a type, this wasn't a bad option at all for the price I was paying. Some might say I am paying too low a price and at that price quality is rarely if ever to be found. I think it was a great deal and I would do it over every day in Pattaya.

So she asked me to disrobe, saw that I wasn't making any movement. She says you want no massage, I just smile and tell her boom-boom only. Will think about the massage after. She undressed and this girl had a pretty smile. She wasn't the talkative types and the rooms at Paradise are broken into 4 or more partitions so more attentive ears. I didn't let that faze me now. I gave her clit some stimulation to get her in the mood, but she required some lube in the beginning to take me in cowgirl. She rode me well and I took her in quite a few positions that were possible in that narrow screw room of the massage house. It was a great screw and she made all the right sounds for me to cum. Another THB 1,000 well spent, I tipped her THB 200.

Shot 3

After the quick screw, I was ravenously hungry so I walked back to LK Metro and took a beer and sat at Oz Burger. Had a cheeseburger which was amazing. I was, in the meanwhile, in touch with a gentleman from another forum and we were to meet up later in the evening at LK Metro area. I thought a foot massage after 2 pops and a meal wasn't a bad idea. So I went to this massage shop down the road next to PapaGayo, a Go-Go of some sort. The elderly lady used a eucalyptus balm which seemed to take the pain right out of my feet and it was worth the THB 200 and a tip of THB 100.

I had begun to snore twice during the massage woke up with a start and apologised. They were all laughs and told me that I should not feel embarrassed. I decided it was time to chug on a Red Bull because 2 pops had sapped all the energy out of me and the constant walking around was not helping in any way. The effects of Red Bull are apparent in that sleep eludes me at this time. It is 3 am and I am sitting awake in the balcony smoking and banging out another report.

We were initially to meet up with our new friend at the Office a go-go but by the time I managed to get back to LK, they had moved onto Crystal a-Go-Go. I was expecting to not be allowed entry, it did happen, when I mentioned that I had friends waiting inside the owner / manager who appeared to be sitting outside said it was OK. So I went in and met some new friends and boy I was glad that I did. We had a great time having with drinks, I bought a round for us all and the friends one of whom had just bar fined a very cute girl, I would have bar fined her any day of the week but she probably won't have gone with me, the other friend was sitting with a waitress from another Go-Go who was hanging out with him on her day off. It was great fun sharing few war stories and enjoying the evening. We moved proceedings back to Soi 6 where I was shown around, while I have been Soi 6 several times, there were things there that I had not yet experienced. In any case, after a couple of rounds of playing pool with the girls and I had successfully managed to not drink much, alternating each shot I had with cola, finally one girl managed to convince me that she could get me up for round 3. I wanted to give her the opportunity. I am happy that I did for THB 300 for the room and THB 700 to the girl (a tip of THB 200 afterwards), I got some good ass play. I was missing the A levels on this trip and now finally I had managed it. So all in all a very satisfying day. I am mildly surprised that I was able to manufacture so much protein but it was manufacturing in arrears.

Hoping to try out some newer and seedier joints tomorrow, let's see what tomorrow brings. Till then goodnight and although my reports appear to be the same old, I hope they remain entertaining.

The attached pic is of P from Paradise massage (the lighting inside massage parlors is not ideal for taking quality pictures), I wasn't able to snag a pic of Ning and the girl from Soi 6, well she had me sweating and panting so bad and my friends were further up on Beach Road I forgot to ask her for a picture. I might post it later when I head down the 6 again. A few general pictures as well, the quality may not be great.

[Uncle Volodya]

UncleV,

You are a hell of a guy, and a wonderful person. A thai girl would say," you gooood maaan!

I have drooled over each of your reports, I am terrible at Frs.

Hats off to you. I shall be a week long millionaire in my paradise, pattaya in Nov., and only hope to experience at least 25% of your escapades!!

I have a girl, Ing, very much like your friend Gaew, and we share simillar moments together. So I relate so much to what you felt. Hence this post.

Pattaya and Gaew waits for you and we for your reports.

NM.You are too king, Mr. Nu. I hope you enjoy your time with Ing and have the good fortune to take full advantage of all that Pattaya has to offer during your trip.

I hope you will find the time to post. It's fun to relive the memories as you write and even better to re read your own posts a few months or years later.

Stay horny my friend.

Uncle V.

[ActionOriented]

I have long ago finished with Thailand and their overpriced non service. In Hong Kong I have all the time on my hand and can score cheaper without the need of airfare and hotel. Patience is the better currency for me getting older.I would agree partly, I am presently enjoying a love-hate relationship with Pattaya, but may be that's what the hobby is about.


AO, hopefully your 1000th report will relate more success!I do hope the 1000th was a worthy report! Your encouragement is much appreciated.

[ActionOriented]

Tuesday, 30th September.

Woke up at 11 am and the events of the previous day were running through my mind while I sorted out plans for the day. Till now a lot of what I had been upto in Pattaya was unplanned and we picked things up depending on what the group was feeling. Since I had last been to PP massage I had at the back of my mind the desire to take Ning again even though she was a starfish in bed. I mean she did keep her eyes closed while in missionary, I would still think it ranks right up there with a lousy session. But she was pretty. So after I had a quick brunch somewhere, I set off towards soi Honey again and did the stretch once and gave Ning a smile and told her I will return shortly. On my return I saw that she wasn't sitting outside the shop, I was like where did she disappear in 5 minutes, so I went in and asked the cashier for her. Thinking that she had snagged another client, I was all but ready to move onwards to Paradise massage. Just then she made an appearance from the restroom. Lucky me, like other girls in the shops who dress up in a more formal and inviting attire this one had worn street clothes and very good ones. Short skirt and a cute orange top.

So we went upstairs and again I found the two partition room and wasn't quite happy with it. After the shower another customer came into the next stall. I wanted to be able to freely enjoy the session, so I asked her whether they had other rooms and for an extra 300 baht I could get a VIP. The VIP room was hardly any better but was big enough to have a proper romp. She had a quick wash and I told her no massage today only boom boom. Why waste precious daylight hours. I pried apart her legs and she had a little Bush, not very common in girls who service so many johns a day. I went down on her, and I did find some measure of success, she got very excited with DATY and I was able to slide one finger up her ass and momentarily finger fucked her pussy and ass. She genuinely seemed to enjoy it. I was hard as a rock by now, since I had not been getting girls back for LT, the morning wood was always the best.

I soon mounted her and after several position changes after it appeared that she had cum at least once and I wasn't able to get her to make the session more fun, I came and wrapped things up. I had done the same girl twice, but not again.

Following the daily routine I got foot massages and a facial scrub at various place up and down LK Metro, after I returned to the hotel, my buddy informed me that we would be meeting up with a few board members and heading to Pattaya Tai. After a quick shower, we met at the hotel lobby and the three of us took moto taxis to Telephone Bar. Right from the beginning this place appeared to me to be something I would like. The entrance to this unit is simply s telephone box, you ring the bell, a girl will open the telephone box door and draw aside the curtains and let you enter one of the seediest places I have seen in Pattaya. It was great, the girls were all around the bar and in various forms of nudity. We took up seats near the entrance and we were soon joined by 3 ladies, each had a girl wrapped around us in 5 minutes. The way this place works is simple, you can either get a BJ in the open bar on move onto the more secluded area in the back, with a curtain shutting out the proceedings. I had already had boom boom and was the last to go in with my girl. The girl in question was Nee from Udon Thani and after making out with me in the bar she promised to go slow in the back room and she assured successful cuming. I like to see confidence like that in a girl.

Since several patrons had taken up most places, we had to head upstairs where there were two big couches. Nee set up a towel on the couch for me to sit down and I was told that I could have a BJ for 500 or boom boom for 700. In addition to a lady drink for 300. I chose a BJ since I felt like a lazy lout and wanted the girl to make th effort. In the meanwhile another cute girl turned up her name was Noo and both the girls appeared to me to be a good team. So I sealed the deal and told both of them to take of whatever remaining clothes they were wearing and go down on the junk. The way the girls alternated was professional and they both had good BJ skills, undoubtedly. I was allowed to go through all of their erogenous zones, and even A levels were possible. The tag team match went on for a while and the girls were taking it personally that they could not make me cum and I assured them that it wasn't their fault, I may have had several orgasms, but the finality of cumming was eluding me. Even a oily hand job wasn't doing the trick. Finally I had to tell the girls to stop, I could feel friction burns and we had been at it for the longest time. The girls washed me up and they made it very clear that if I chose to return some other day for boom boom I would be granted complete access. I can't wait to get back to this place. It is quite out of the normal hot spots in Pattaya, but I don't mind making the trip. I could see when I came down that all other patrons had left, only the two buddies I came in with were sitting and had angry looks on their faces because I was taking so long. During the exit, all of the girls come near the entrance and thank you for your patronage. What a great touch. Photography is not allowed in the place, I asked the girls 3 times.

In the euphoric state that we left, none of us focused on the map and ended up on a baht bus heading to Jomtien instead of North Pattaya. We realised our mistake too late and were 10 kms away when we did. So we back tracked and walked 2 kms on the highway before we found one Moto taxi guy who fetched a couple of others and we were transported back to LK Metro for 150 baht each (robbery indeed).

Met up with PipeLayer99 (PL99), who was walking down the street with a beer in one hand and it was a lot of fun meeting up. This is to thank him for taking care of our evening entertainment, a lot of what we saw and did and learnt would not have been possible but for his sharp mind pointing out and correcting all the newbie mistakes we seemed to be making. We hit the go-gos in the LK metro area first and went into Paradise a-go go, this place has a nice interior and a couple of bar fine girls and here I learnt that always get value for your lady drink. Don't just let a lady convince you to get her a drink and walk away because another customer had bar fined her. She lost her tip on her drink for pulling this stunt and we left the place.

The boys wanted to see some hands on action so we headed to windmill agogo on walking street and it was ok. Nothing too crazy and after Telephone Bar, I was just enjoying multiple rounds of jack and coke with PL 99. The girls at windmill look very young and at least a couple of girls were being eaten out by naughty old men on the stage. I was being encouraged to go taste some pussy as well since I do enjoy it, but a communal DATY session just gave me the creeps.

After half an hour or so, we moved onto Red Car. I would ideally not have had the chance to see the place, but PL99 wanted me to see all those places where I would not normally be allowed in. Lots of freelancers around, the music was good but not that many customers. We had a couple of rounds here and then moved onto I-bar which is another fantastic club. We bought a bottle of Jack at I-bar because there were so many people in there and going to and from the bar was proving to be hassle. PL99 being the "hansome" man in the group immediately got a hot FL wrapped around his finger. We moved to their table which had two FLs. My girl for the moment was not being as forthcoming and I was advised to scout for alternatives. I was sapped out in any case and was struck by a cute cashier I had met earlier. I asked her out and got the cutest smile in return and before she could answer a fat waitress came over asked that girl to get back to her work. So it's little things like these that make it worth the while to set out on the hunt and although we ended up partying it 4. 30 am, I didn't feel the urge to pick a FL.

Let's see what today has on offer. It was a great night out on the town. A big thank you once again to PL99 for being the perfect host.

[MRahul84]

Monday, 29 September

Feeling very down from the previous days events where I went dry in the land of smiles, the clock was ticking and it was time to make it count. Desperation was taking hold and the morning wood was burning through the sheets. I knew if I kept in my zen mode of mongering it was unlikely that Pattaya would become more fun.

I snapped out of it, woke up after doing a little quick office work checking up on e-mails, my friend and I went over to Robin's Nest for an American breakfast and as always, it was good. It was a particularly sunny morning and I am not one who requires tanning. I wanted to avoid the sun, but sometimes when an urge takes ahold of me, I cannot shake it off. With a full belly, we did a quick survey of a couple of hotels near the Buakhow / LK Metro area for the next few days. My friend was feeling like using the pool at the hotel and basically wanted to get away from the sun, I had a different agenda.

Shot 1

I intended to head down soi Honey, on the previous day we had briefly walked down this infamous lane but were just browsing. The best way to find this lane probably is to look out for Fantasy Lounge (on Buakhow) and the tall LBs hanging out from it. I walked from LK Metro to soi Honey and made a quick survey down the road. Around 1 pm, the talent on offer was not particularly pleasing to the eye. I spotted one particularly attractive girl Ning at PP Massage...So you are having a bombastic time in LOS.

Fuck these Thai pussy hard.

[Otari]

I never had any fear in Cambodia. Sihanoukville has action at the beaches, Victory Hill and also downtown. I like this small peaceful town where you have a big dinner for about USD $4. 00. Read the Cambodia section for more info. Take the 14 person van from PP to Sihanoukville. Takes about 4 hours and about USD $10.00.Thanks LifeIsABeach for advice. It sounds good. What are the possibilities to go to Sihanoukville form Pattaya?

[Pipe Layer99]

Action, it was great meeting with you and visiting all the places. I'm glad you had fun. I have a few more places to point out for you and your buddy. Plus I have another buddy arriving tomorrow. It will be more fun filled days ahead.

The free lance bar was crowded and happening last night. I ended up taking my girl back to my room. Originally I was not planning on grabbing one. Just figured I would go out for drinks. But when I saw this one walking by I thought she was very pretty. Her smile was amazing and I called her over. We clicked immediately. Her personality was super nice and she was fun to be around in the bar. Later on, when we got back to the room and it was a true GFE. Great lady. We had not discussed the donation the night before. This afternoon, while she was in the shower, I put some baht next to her purse. I usually give freelance girls 1000 (plus taxi money), but since she was so damn sweet and took such great care of me, I left her 1500. She just left it near her purse and came back to bed. She wanted to eat something but I was still tired. I told her she can go and come back. But she wanted to go together. Since I did not want to go, she decided to stay and rest with me (what a sweetheart). I offered her some banana cake and yogurt. So she ate a yogurt from the fridge. I told her I wanted to sleep more and she snuggled up in bed with me indicating she would stay. Soon after, I felt her tummy growl. I told her that if she was hungry, she should go eat. By that time it was about 3. 30 pm. She seemed happy and willing to return. She went to eat and wore my sandals. She came back later and took care of me again. I was exhausted and really wanted to get some rest. I told her I needed a night off and sent her on her way. She wanted to stay and asked if we will meet later tonight. I told her I will stay in tonight and I was too tired for anything else. I reminded her that I will be here for a long time and that I have her number for another day. Overall great experience.

[ActionOriented]

Overall great experience.Bro, you rocked her world. A TG giving up on food for almost all of the day just to take care of your needs, man that's just awesome. 555 I do hope she hasn't completely drained the PIPE, we need to hit the town hard again.

[ActionOriented]

Wednesday, 1st October.

A girl just left the room, and I have no power left in me. Another day well spent in sin city.

I woke up with a massive hangover today and it took me a long time to find my flip flops, and just to barely get out of bed. The only reason I had moved was because the reception called at 12 pm asking if I wanted to extend my stay. I said yes and then slept for another two hours. I like to think I am young, but partying up till 5 am with multiple rounds of drinks with friends is starting to take a toll on me. 555 With great effort, at 2 pm I finally decided that I need some food to break the hangover and I couldn't sleep in the entire day, after all sin city waits for no one.

The weather this morning was hot and humid and my feet were sore from all the walking (and part dancing) that I had been doing. Note to self: Get some good footwear which helps in navigating Pattaya instead of relying on the stuff which had me in bursting blisters. I could have done the same American / English breakfast routine but I was feeling that I had not had the chance of having any Thai food. So I walked down Soi Buakhow and landed up at an area where several food hawkers congregate in an open space and I have passed this place by a few times and I have always found them open. This morning they were open as well. I really hope that some of these food joints would put up signs / names of dishes in English, it really would help someone like me be more experimental. Because having an open spread of food is still OK, you can roll the dice, but you cannot order from a hawker who does not have such a spread because I for one do not know what the Thai preparations are called. So I grabbed a cappuccino from the first stall in this food market and then made my way through the various food joints, I was overwhelmed with the variety that was available but I still did not have the courage to try many places. I finally settled down at a place which had a big spread of around 20 preparations and after inquiring that they were not serving beef, only chicken and pork (I avoid pork as much as possible), I went with what looked like a safe chicken soup. It was great, I hardly touched the sticky rice. I enjoyed watching the sights, with several girls getting their food packed and the quantities that they got packed were not small, I felt that they could out do me in eating any day. Since I wasn't feeling particularly great with the alcohol yet to recede from the system, I walked away after the soup.

I went in for a 2 hour massage, 1 hour for the foot and 1 hour standard Thai massage. After all of this I was now ready to jump into the day. I had not gone to Soi Honey today and I decided that I should skip it. Because I get so tired after so many pops that I am not able to pick up a girl for LT, as all batteries are drained. Around 7 pm I get a call from PL99 and we chat, I even speak to the girl whom HE had picked up last night and she appeared to be giving my friend the time of his life, being around for more than 12 hours. A girl like that would not be out of place in any Go-Go, her proportions were next to perfect. I should stop drooling over my mate's girl now 555. PL99 wanted to sleep in as HE had had in excess of 4 rounds and even giants need to rest so that they can keep playing the game.

I was on holiday and would eventually make the most of my time but I felt no tearing rush. On the one hand I wanted to go and try something new, on the other hand I was still tempted by Telephone. While I was conflicted with this dilemma, I get a message on LINE from another buddy who was already at the telephone bar and asking me to join. I was ready to step out at a moment's notice and I moto taxied my way to Pattaya Thai. Today was a day to lose inhibitions. My buddy who was waiting at the bar and had two girls wrapped on either side order me a drink and a BJ. The moment I took a seat at the bar, I had the two girls from last night by my side and they were very happy to see me again. They were horny enough and told me that we should move upstairs as soon as possible to some ass drilling. My buddy however asked them to stay right where they are and asked me to chose a third girl. I chose a cutie who was sitting a couple of seats down and she immediately took her top off, while I had my two initial girls pulling up my t-shirt in the open bar and attacking my neck and chest, the third girl had already gone out pulled out my tool and went down on it. She had been advised not to make me cum. These girls really know how to play the game. I got a fantastic BJ right there in the bar with every girl looking and likewise my buddy was being polished off by a girl chosen by his favourite. Half the girls here appear to be bisexual and they have no problems in choosing the next target for you. After I got the hot and cold (with ice cube) BJ, I was feeling like I might cum and felt that I should have got some Kamagra in me before leaving, I was coasting on a low dosage of generic Cialis. I asked the girl to stop and I covered up my junk, but the three girls were still keeping me aroused. I had had a tequila shot upon entering and was just half way through my jack and coke and my two girls who were horny as hell had my fingers fill up their asses, so no point in continuing with a drink. Finally, when it became unbearable I took leave from my friend and went upstairs to a small room with just a bed and shower chamber. There was hardly space to stand. One of the girls wanted to close the glass door and pull the curtains, I just did not let her do it. I kept the door open and curtains wide apart, since I was loosing my inhibitions, what better way to become an exhibitionist. So both girls got down in doggie in front of me and I was asked to select the ass I wanted to pound first. We first tried it without oil or lube, with limited success. Then without me knowing one of the girls had slipped some oil into her ass and I slid in comfortably. When I withdrew I noticed it was oil and asked her to get lube. The condom had almost melted and oil is not a good substitute for lube, in fact it is something one should actively avoid. With lube I was now banging Nee who claimed that it was her first anal experience (I do not agree), she kept telling me to slow it down. But after the initial slow movement inside her and adjusting for maximum pleasure it was time to freely bang away. I banged that ass and she was moaning loudly. I had the other girl make out with the girl who I was banging. Then after a condom change the girls lathered each other up with lube and I entered Nu. She claimed to be an anal expert, yet she had a very tight ass. It was a great pleasure in opening it up. While I banged her ass, I asked her to eat out the pussy of Nee and she gladly did. These girls were extremely naughty and I was enjoying every moment of this tableaux.

After another couple of condom changes, when it appeared that we had run out of all condoms, I was tired and had almost reached my peak, I told Nee that I will cum in her mouth. She got right down to deep throat me and waiting for her daily protein dose. I obliged her with a massive pay load. I could hardly stand after this let alone walk down one flight of stairs. The girls held me so that I didn't fall and break my neck. I paid the girls THB 1,000 each (boom boom for pussy is THB 700) and lady drinks and my bin had racked up to THB 1600. Every cent was money well spent, I just could not regret spending money here, it was so much value. My buddy had gone into another room with a couple of girls and HE took his time. They had an interesting snack that they serve with the drinks called Pattay and I gobbled up an entire plate with gusto. Asked for another and I was just not able to sit straight on a bar stool so I told the girls that we need to move to the couch in the lobby. After the longest time my buddy emerges and HE hands me a sachet of Kamagra oral jelly to get ready for another round. I had half the sachet but I knew that I needed a little more time to recover. So check binned and left. Since I was now coasting on oral jelly, I knew that I had another pop left in me for the night, so we went to walking street where another buddy was watching a muay thai fight and we headed to Babydolls a-gogo, this is an interesting place not very different from Windmills a-gogo with the girls giving you value for your drink, they will make it a point to arouse you and not the other way around where you need to fondle until you get a boner. The hassle for lady drinks is a little on the high side and for spending an hour at this place I had run up a tab of THB 1,000, I am sure the other two guys had a larger tab. We walked down beach road and again tourist police seemed to be talking to a couple of SWs and we did notice some talent. One of the friends who was staying at the condos in VT6 separated and went home. We took a baht bus to Soi 6 to check out the talent. After my friend picked a girl who HE wanted to take dancing, although I enjoy it as well, I just did not have the energy for dancing and then boom-boom. It would have to be either boom-boom or dancing. So boom-boom won and I bar fined a girl and took her back to my hotel. We fucked till 2. 30 and I remember there was a champions league match I was also watching on tv and I drifted off to sleep. She needed to get back to her bar by 12 pm so she aroused my tool to attention at 11.30 am and we were at it again. I was unable to cum but I had had my fill of doing her. I handed her THB 2,000 and let her go. She tries to extract a promise out of me to come see her again at soi 6, but I gently tell her I might hit the 6 soon but I cannot make promises.

It was a great day in Pattaya and looking forward to another great day here.

[Wolvenvacht]

I was coasting on a low dosage of generic Cialis.
. . .
HE hands me a sachet of Kamagra oral jelly to get ready for another round.It is your healh, but the combination of Cialis + Kamagra + lots of alcohol and lack of proper rest and food will put a huge strain on your body.

[ActionOriented]

It is your healh, but the combination of Cialis + Kamagra + lots of alcohol and lack of proper rest and food will put a huge strain on your body.I can feel the negative effects as well. But I am in LOS just for a few more days, at which point I return home and hopefully can go back to a healthy lifestyle. I am just not able balance all of this out, thanks for the concern.

[GreenBud]

What are the possibilities to go to Sihanoukville form Pattaya?1) Take the tourist van from Pattaya to Koh Kong. Then take bus from Koh Kong to Sihanoukville. Not sure if you can do this in one day. It's smaller, but there are activities in Koh Kong. Of course, you take take private taxis for quicker transport. In Pattaya, I saw a company advertising Visa runs to Koh Kong on a nice van.

2) From Pattaya, go to the airport. Fly into Phnom Penh. Then take transport to Sihanoukville. If you take Air Asia, you might be able to get the last bus on Sorya. Private taxi one way will be $55 or $60.

[Vbbbb]

I can feel the negative effects as well. But I am in LOS just for a few more days, at which point I return home and hopefully can go back to a healthy lifestyle. I am just not able balance all of this out, thanks for the concern. :)Hey bud,

I've got a contact of a freelancer, she gives a very good BJ and good FS. I got her for 2 nights on my last trip. She will do long time if you like her, PM me for details if you are interested.

Happy mongering!

[Otari]

Take the tourist van from Pattaya to Koh Kong. Then take bus from Koh Kong to Sihanoukville. Not sure if you can do this in one day. It's smaller, but there are activities in Koh Kong. Of course, you take take private taxis for quicker transport. In Pattaya, I saw a company advertising Visa runs to Koh Kong on a nice van.Thank you very much GreenBud. If in Koh Kong is good action than it seems that it would be a very nice trip combining sightseeing and mongering from Pattaya to Sihanoukville with stops in Ko Chang and Koh Kong.

[Matong36]

Hey bud,

I've got a contact of a freelancer, she gives a very good BJ and good FS. I got her for 2 nights on my last trip. She will do long time if you like her, PM me for details if you are interested.

Happy mongering!Yo!

Could you PM me the contact and her rates?

Thanks in advance!

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[ActionOriented]

Hey bud,

I've got a contact of a freelancer, she gives a very good BJ and good FS. I got her for 2 nights on my last trip. She will do long time if you like her, PM me for details if you are interested.

Happy mongering!Thanks for the suggestion, will may be take the contact for the next trip. Cheers.

[ActionOriented]

Thursday, 2nd October.

It is difficult to remember what I was up to during the previous day because the drinking has been clouding my thoughts. In any case, what I do remember is that I woke up and went for the usual breakfast to kill the hangover from last night. I had had one pop in the morning to take care of the morning wood from the soi 6 girl and was chilling out most of the day. I wasn't scouting for any boom-boom during the day and after the foot massage at the usual place, I took a nap for around 3 hours. It was brilliant. Evening time spoke to PipeLayer99 and HE had woken up around 8. 30 pm and we were to meet up later in the evening. I went around for a sumptous meal to Beefeater on soi Diana and it was slightly on the expensive side but the steak was very good. What began as a drizzle had turned into a heavy drizzle as the evening progressed. So we were grounded for a while. I was sitting outside Family Mart away from the rain and having one beer after the other. PL99 told me that he was eating dinner at the restaurant 100 mtrs away, so I made my way through the rain and met up with him. After the rain subsided for a bit, we hit one bar near the LK Metro where the music wasn't blaring and conversation was possible. Thereafter, since the plan for the evening was "up to me" I thought that a FL from a club should be the next target but there was no rush as such to find one. So we hit Red Car since smoking isn't allowed inside and that's what is preferred by PL99. Two or three attractive girls around, but the club was largely empty. While I grabbed a smoke outside, I saw close to 10 FLs leave the place for lack of punters approaching them. These FLs weren't the prettiest of the lot so it makes sense for them to try their luck elsewhere before it is too late in the day. After being a pussy about approaching some of the girls, I went and chatted with this very Japanese looking girl who seemed to be in the club with a guy. When I asked if it was OK to talk and the guy was being very friendly as well, she confirmed that the guy was her brother. She worked in a hospital and had a 16 hour shift the next day. I assumed this to mean that she wasn't a FL. I expressed interest in taking her out later in the night, she said that her mother would not approve. So we left it at that, thanked the group and left.

I-Bar was chock full of people as always. Now the weird part was that PL99 and me had done two laps of the entire establishment (not one attractive girl made eye contact), I tried approaching close to 3-4 girls and every girl I approached seemed to inter-locked in a weird dance with another girl (called girlfriend / sister). Some cases the "girlfriend" immediately crosses her arms and says that her friend is out of bounds. I was like WTF! This happened the entire evening. It was getting frustrating. After a while I gave up. I understand that the girls may not be interested in going with me, that's absolutely OK with me, I am not one to force the agenda, but let the FL say it herself, why does she need a thick girlfriend by her side to make her decisions. It just didn't make sense to me and I felt very far removed from the FL club pick up scene. I had lost all of my game, assuming in the first place that I had any. It was becoming dispiriting. We had polished off more than half the bottle of Jack we had bought the night before. The proceedings at I-Bar drew to a close at around 4. 30-5 am and we moved onto Insomnia which is one floor above. All of the FL's that were looking for punters below were also to be found in Insomnia above. I tried the same approach, although I was hesitant, and my lack of confidence I guess showed, it was a NO every single time. I gave up and around 6 am, I told PL99 who had got cozy with an old GF of his (GF in this context would be a girl he had picked up from the same place a few times in the past). When we were about to make a move, PL99 pushed a slightly drunk girl my way and we immediately started making out and dirty dancing. OK, that was abrupt and I would chalk that up to alcohol. Hardly any talk and we danced around for a while. PL99 was being the encouraging wingman and honestly I would have left the place 2 hours ago disappointed had it not been for him. So we picked up our respective girls and left the club at 7 am and had a bite to eat at the restaurant which is located on the way out (its a new addition). After the meal we parted ways and I took my FL (whose name I do not remember, I am generally not this terrible with details) to my room and she appeared to be much older than I am. Dammit! Also, she had managed to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off PL99 at the food joint with annoying questions (which in turn pissed me off as well). But her tits were good and although she wanted to boom-boom after sleeping for a while. I had to get a pop off, I had not taken any pills this day and was simply experiencing a dry spell for more than 12 hours. We were at it, loose pussy, big turn off, she gave access to her ass and I took advantage. All in all, a forgettable experience, while I think FL providers who are elder to me sometimes provide a great fuck session, this one was just OK. I think the lady I picked up was probably 10 years elder than me, so I could not imagine doing her the second time. I packed her off at 1 pm, she works some bar on soi 8 apparently. Paid her THB 1,000 as negotiated.

808: I had almost forgotten about this, but since I remembered and was able to edit the post here is my take. Now I had been to 808 a club on walking street when it was relatively new and I was with a Thai girl at the time so it appeared to be to be a good club with no entry hassles. PL99 and I thought to try this place out last night before we headed to iBar since I had told him I had found the place OK. A bit of background, both PL99 and I were dressed casually with flip flops, while I do know that most clubs in any city of the world are strict about footwear in a club, the rules get a little diluted in Pattaya. At first, PL99 and I were not allowed to enter because we had flip flops on, which is OK a reasonable ground for not allowing entry, but when we stood at the gate for a minute or so, we found a Russian dude wearing the exact same attire as us and flip flops was allowed in, PL99 asked the doorman what was up and why he was being allowed entry. To which the stupid door man suggests to PL99 that he can go in the way he is but I being the Indian bloke wearing flip flops cannot go in. PL99 was seething at this insult and I had reached a point where I wasn't fazed by all of this crap.

So its unfortunate but must be noted that 808 is not an Indian friendly club anymore. Farangs from other places can go in with flip flops but well dressed or casually dressed Indians will not be allowed in. I wonder if things might be different if you go in with a Thai girl or is there a risk of being humiliated in this way again. I am not going to bother trying it again in any case. They clearly do not like the colour of my money.

[ActionOriented]

So after the most unfortunate incidents of last nights and the generally ill-fated outing we had on the town it was a new day. Since I had sent the auntie away after pop 1 and some sleep, I won't have anyone to take care of the morning wood. At this point, I think morning wood without protein was the best result I could hope for. It was a sluggish start to the day, I finally managed to get myself out of bed at 2:30 pm and quickly headed to the reception to extend my stay for the last day. After that since I really did not have the energy, I went across the road on soi 13 and into a pub called the Sportsman and got a cheeseburger and some coffee. I decided that after this hearty meal I could rest some more. No more of the massages, BJs or boom-booms during the day, all of that happens in the night and well into the morning here.

Next time I wake up its 5:30 pm and I saw that I had a missed call from PL99 who appeared to have woken up sometime back. We chatted and again I spoke to the girl HE had picked up last night. Man, the girls just don't want to leave him the next day. We planned to catch up as soon as HE managed to pack the girl off. I went out walking down soi Chaiyapoon, saw one or two girls I could pick, headed up 3rd Road and at the corner of Bliss Lounge considered going in. But what attracted my attention was the night market just across the road at HE intersection of soi 21 and 3rd Road. They had a couple of rows of stalls, two rows selling clothes and shoes and two rows dedicated to food. Even though I was tempted by several items of food that were on offer, I was happy with just an orange juice. I browsed through every stall and many of the food items seemed way too dangerous to be attempted. I wish I had the courage to try something out at least. I just wanted a BJ where I would not need to do much and could just be happy lying on my back. Now there are several places I could have gone to for a standard BJ I. E. Bars / shops specialising in it. I thought to try out a place which may or may not specialise in it. So I headed to soi honey and a slightly heavy girl with a very pretty face approached me to say Hi. I told her outside the shop that I was not looking for boom-boom or a massage and needed only a BJ. She seemed to understand and asked me come in. Once we went upstairs, she asked me again. I reiterated what I needed and told her to lose her clothes. What followed thereafter was a covered BJ, I didn't think to ask that upfront, my bad. Anyways, since the girl had opted for a CBJ, she would just have to blow me until I could blow and in a CBJ that could mean anything between 30 minutes to an hour depending on my frame of mind. She tried hard for the longest time, and I could see that her jaws had started to hurt, 555. I wasn't going to take pity on her so early in the game so I let her continue, took away her hand several times when she thought she could give me a handie cum BJ. After around 40 minutes or so, she wanted to get me off with a HJ and with great reluctance I agreed. She lathered up oil and made the best of what she could and after I while I just shot air (may be a drop or two of protein), unimpressed. I washed up, dressed, tipped and left. I checked my phone there were a couple of messages, PL99 was heading to LK Metro to eat and I told him that I was hungry and would join him since I was in the next street. My buddy was also asking where I was and I sent him my coordinates. We met up at this small british pub and I thought to try being adventorous here. I went in for their Thai menu, most falang owned establishments in Pattaya have a page offering some Thai food. This I assume is for the girls who might accompany the punters looking to eat before or after.

After food, PL99 asked us what we wanted to do on the last night in Pattaya, I didn't have a clue and was too tired to think. So we decided to make the journey to Walking Street from soi Buakhow to see some tits and ass at the Go-Gos. But before we got there we got another rousing welcome from girls outside a bar a little further up from Action Street. We immediately asked the baht bus to pull over and we went into this bar. This bar is farang owned and honestly out of all the bars I had been to had the best collection of girls dressed in red dresses. They had around 6-7 patrons already and around 6 girls not entertaining anyone. Three out of them were very pretty and they immediately came over. No hassle for lady drinks, and I liked that attitude so much that I bought my girl a drink. She was pretty and she informed me that her English was very weak and she used in work in a factory in a prior life and had moved to Pattaya a few weeks back. She was already drunk after 3 shots, the drink I offered was the 4th. I was very tempted to bar fine her because she was nice and friendly and was giving me a good time. But I also wanted to spend some time with the guys on the last night. So I promised her that I would return and we discussed this with the guys and the probability of anyone bar fining the girls from that little bar seemed to be very low. Her name was Lock.

At WS, we again seemed clueless as to which Go-Go to go into. I had had enough of the stupid Go-Gos in Pattaya and I didn't want to be hassled to buy 180 baht lady drinks for unattractive girls. We headed down soi Diamond and went into What's Up, I had read about this Go-Go at various places but never managed to find a sign for entry. Finally we did, it is ahead of Angelswitch and opposite Babydolls. This place was booming, while most Go-Gos on this sub-soi did not appear to have many patrons, What's up was filled to the capacity with girls and customers. The music was loud and the girls were actually dancing. The place had a good feel to it, I ordered a beer and we were given a seat next to a bath tub area where two ladies were soaping themselves and attracting punters to help them take a bath. I wasn't interested in bathing them, I was more worried about the soap suds not finding their way into my beer. After a beer, we got bored of the place it did have a lot of talent but I imagine the place was expensive (high bar fine) although thankfully we did not get hassled for lady drinks, so that's a positive. Back on WS, we were wondering where to hit next and then PL99 informs me that Mr. E will be reaching Pattaya shortly and will likely join us. So we headed into the first bar complex that you can spot on your way into WS and we walked in and found that although some of the girls were calling out to us to try their bar as soon as we approached and went around to ordering the drinks the girls disappeared. Not a good sign, we walked away from one bar after cancelling the order because of this. We landed up at another bar where we two were trying to play the game and two hotties at the bar were just too glued into their phones so we finished the drink quick and walked away. We walked in and out of another bar on the ground floor of 808 and it was just too damn loud. Finally, since none of us had seen Alcatraz we went in. The place hardly had 8 customers but the line up of girls on stage was OK. I wasn't looking from bar fine, after I read that the bar fine begins from 800 baht (I assume coyotes go for 1,200 baht). The other two guys bought drinks for one girl each and played around, I refused to buy drinks for two girls that approached because I did not like them. At this point, Mr. E reached Alcatraz and we met up with him. The four of us now decided to move to Mixx which is towards the end of WS near the pier. Mixx was rocking at the time and it was full, although the crowd had halfed after an hour or so. After scouting the talent and having one highly overpriced drink. Around 3:30 am I took a moto taxi to the bar on soi Buakhow to check if the girl I had liked earlier in the night was still available for take out. I was disappointed to hear that some customer had bar fined her, damn, I should have known that she was too pretty and too desperate to hang around for someone who may or may not return. Anyways, I decided to rush back to Mixx to catch up with the guys. There were a couple of drunk moto taxi guys around the corner and two ladies after I tried to explain to them where I need to get to, the moto taxi guys did not make a move and I was just about to walk ahead when a cute lady sitting with them offered to drop me to WS for 40 baht. I thought she was joking and asked her if she was sure, she nodded and I hopped on. On the ride she tells me she thinks I am cute, I was curious why she decided to drop a complete stranger off somewhere although she was clearly not a moto taxi rider. I asked her if she wanted to go dancing to Mixx with me, she says that may be another night and gave me her number and asked me to give her a call. Why do the strangest things happen on the last night?

I reached Mixx and the crowd had almost disappeared, the girls were still around acting like stuck up FLs just like the other night, but it was still better. I spoke to one or two, but did not get the right vibe so I enjoyed the music. In the meantime my buddy found a girl and decided to take off. Mr. E had already found his girl within 10 minutes of coming in and was just hanging around to give us company. PL99 was not interested in taking anyone home and was being my wingman. It is difficult to be a wingman for someone who is generally a pussy when it comes to approaching FLs in a club. Finally, HE selected the easiest target for me and well basically nudged me to her and I am glad that HE did. She was very new to the business and while she had a girl friend around the GF was only helping her translate and on the dance floor we sealed the deal. The GF walked out of Mixx quick, she wasn't interested in a pick up and was helping her friend who had arrived in Pattaya two days before. The girl Alex was 27 and from Khorat. I know all of 6 words in Thai and with her limited English made whatever little conversation we could. She was a great GFE provider and it was a fun night. I paid her 1,000 + 200 in the morning. Wish I could locate and find such FLs in the future, they are so much better than the haughty twats around. It was great meeting up with PL99 and Mr. E both of whom are great guys and IMHO should pen a book demystifying Pattaya, it would be really popular among the newbie punters. I hope to catch you guys around soon sometime in the near future. Till then keep the girls in Pattaya happy. :D

[Mr Enternational]

I did some work, tidied up and went off to see Chris, my tailor at AMA tailoring. I can't recommend the place enough. They have done some great work for me over the last two trips. I had 3 shirts and two pants done this time. All of very high quality and fitting me perfectly. And for a a very reasonable 7800 baht. Truly a great deal.I just went up to AMA and it was not a good experience. I needed to get 4 vests made for a friend and decided to use him for the Guinea pig. There were two guys inside, neither of which were Chris the owner. The guy helping me was drunk. It was 11 am. He told me that it would be from 800-2000 baht for each vest. I had to get some blue fabric matched. He pulled out one pelt but it was not close enough. He gave up after that one telling me they didn't have anything else. I had to go around the store trying to match it myself until I finally found one close enough. I no longer wanted to deal with the guy so I asked him when Chris would be in. He told me that He is at the factory and has no set hours to be at the shop. He gave me Chris' cell number and I called but there was no answer. I left my number at the shop for him to call me whenever He is in. I asked the guy how much it would be with the fabric that I picked out and He said 1200. I told him that I would pay 1000. Whenever Chris comes and if I decide to go back to the shop then I will change that to 900.

[Mr Enternational]

At this point, Mr. E reached Alcatraz and we met up with him. The four of us now decided to move to Mixx which is towards the end of WS near the pier. Mixx was rocking at the time and it was full, although the crowd had halfed after an hour or so. After scouting the talent and having one highly overpriced drink. Around 3:30 am I took a moto taxi to the bar on soi Buakhow to check if the girl I had liked earlier in the night was still available for take out. I was disappointed to hear that some customer had bar fined her, damn, I should have known that she was too pretty and too desperate to hang around for someone who may or may not return. Anyways, I decided to rush back to Mixx to catch up with the guys. There were a couple of drunk moto taxi guys around the corner and two ladies after I tried to explain to them where I need to get to, the moto taxi guys did not make a move and I was just about to walk ahead when a cute lady sitting with them offered to drop me to WS for 40 baht. I thought she was joking and asked her if she was sure, she nodded and I hopped on. On the ride she tells me she thinks I am cute, I was curious why she decided to drop a complete stranger off somewhere although she was clearly not a moto taxi rider. I asked her if she wanted to go dancing to Mixx with me, she says that may be another night and gave me her number and asked me to give her a call. Why do the strangest things happen on the last night?

I reached Mixx and the crowd had almost disappeared, the girls were still around acting like stuck up FLs just like the other night, but it was still better. I spoke to one or two, but did not get the right vibe so I enjoyed the music. In the meantime my buddy found a girl and decided to take off. Mr. E had already found his girl within 10 minutes of coming in and was just hanging around to give us company. PL99 was not interested in taking anyone home and was being my wingman. It is difficult to be a wingman for someone who is generally a pussy when it comes to approaching FLs in a club. Finally, He selected the easiest target for me and well basically nudged me to her and I am glad that He did. She was very new to the business and while she had a girl friend around the GF was only helping her translate and on the dance floor we sealed the deal. The GF walked out of Mixx quick, she wasn't interested in a pick up and was helping her friend who had arrived in Pattaya two days before. The girl Alex was 27 and from Khorat. I know all of 6 words in Thai and with her limited English made whatever little conversation we could. She was a great GFE provider and it was a fun night. I paid her 1,000 + 200 in the morning. Wish I could locate and find such FLs in the future, they are so much better than the haughty twats around. It was great meeting up with PL99 and Mr. E both of whom are great guys and IMHO should pen a book demystifying Pattaya, it would be really popular among the newbie punters. I hope to catch you guys around soon sometime in the near future. Till then keep the girls in Pattaya happy. :DMan where do you get the time to write these reports so fast? PL99 had the best girl in the place but He was saying He did not have power. I would have taken her anyway just to sleep next to her. But He got her phone number so there is no rush for him. Last night my girl complained because I did not cum in her mouth so she could drink it. This morning I made it up to her when she woke me up with a BBBJ. She works in some shop in Naklua and had to be there by 1 pm.

If I were you I would have asked the girl on the motorbike where she was going and what did she do for work. You could have probably went with her for free. That was a golden opportunity. The more practice you get approaching chicks, the easier it becomes. One night last month me and PL99 were in 808 and every chick in the place was shooting us down. We didn't know what the hell was going on. Then as soon as we walked outside getting ready to leave somehow we got chicks right in front of the club.

[Mr Enternational]

Last month I was in 808 and noticed a chick with her friends keep looking at me so I kept staring back. After about an hour I motioned her over. After minimal small talk of asking her why she keeps looking at me I decided to tell her let's go. She said you want me to go with you? I said of course. She said she needed to go home and get clothes first. I told her that she sure did because I didn't want her leaving my place the next morning with club clothes on. She didn't have a bike so we took mine.

We got to her place and she told me to leave my bike on the street. We went to a padlocked gate which she opened and we started walking down an alley. I thought to myself, not one of these places again (thinking I was in for a low budget hood experience). We got to the back of the alley and walked up a set of stairs. She opened the door and told me to have a seat. There were 2 sofas and about a 50 inch TV. It looked to be a common room. It was sparkling clean. When we walked in she said I'm not like those other girls in the club. I said what do you mean? She said I don't go with men for money. I said okay. She kept asking if I wanted to know what she does. I told her no, not really. She asked me if I wanted to stay there instead of going back to my place. She said that she has never stayed out of her home. I didn't really want to stay. Besides, I remembered leaving the AC on in my room. There were two closed doors off the common room. I figured she must live there with someone else and those are the bedrooms. She said that the friends she was at the club with would be coming over bringing food. It was about 5 am.

She opened the bedroom and invited me in. There was a mattress on the floor with pillows and a folded blanket. There was a dresser and a plush chair and ottoman as well. There was also a large flat screen TV in that room. She turned on the air conditioner and I got comfortable. Finally her friends came over, but I stayed in the bedroom on my cell phone. She kept coming to ask if I wanted something to eat. I kept saying no, but she kept coming back. Finally I told her to go ahead and make me some noodles. I went into the kitchen to socialize. One of her friends was a gay guy who said his boyfriend lives in San Francisco. The other friend was a small, thin girl of 25 but looked 18. There was a nice big refrigerator in the kitchen. She asked me if I wanted chocolate then opened a drawer of the refrigerator which was filled with expensive chocolate. Daaaammmnnnn. She said when her friends come from the USA they always bring her gifts, hence the chocolate.

As I ate my noodles I noticed a stack of beach towels on one of the counters. I said you sure do like going to the beach don't you? She said that she rents out apartments and those are towels for them. She showed me the other room. It was her closet. Shit. Her closet was bigger than my entire room! Her friends finally left and she went to take a shower. When she finished she brought me a towel that resembled a big thick comfortable blanket and led me to the bathroom. She opened a new toothbrush and put toothpaste on it and left me to myself. Damn I could get used to this. I started a shower and noticed that her water on 1/4 heat is as hot as mine on full blast. I didn't want to leave out of the shower, but it was already daylight and I had some pussy to get.

I went back to the room and festivities started. I had a squirter on my hands! We fell off to sleep and I woke up in the early afternoon as hungry as a mf. I didn't want to wake her so I went off to the kitchen and acted like a kid in a candy store. I filled up off of chocolate. I noticed there was an enclosed outside patio. I went out and there was a washer and dryer. Even outside the floor was clean enough to eat off. I think I might be moving in with her. She finally woke up. I was supposed to meet a buddy in 10 minutes. She told me that she would let me out after she finished her coffee. As we walked downstairs she said the workers are not here yet. I didn't know what the hell she was talking about. She unlocked a big metal door and pulled it up. We entered a restaurant and bar and there was her motorbike inside. She opened the front of the restaurant and let me go out that way. Ding ding. I have a fucking winner!

[ActionOriented]

Man where do you get the time to write these reports so fast? PL99 had the best girl in the place but He was saying He did not have power. I would have taken her anyway just to sleep next to her. But He got her phone number so there is no rush for him. Last night my girl complained because I did not cum in her mouth so she could drink it. This morning I made it up to her when she woke me up with a BBBJ. She works in some shop in Naklua and had to be there by 1 pm.

If I were you I would have asked the girl on the motorbike where she was going and what did she do for work. You could have probably went with her for free. That was a golden opportunity. The more practice you get approaching chicks, the easier it becomes. One night last month me and PL99 were in 808 and every chick in the place was shooting us down. We didn't know what the hell was going on. Then as soon as we walked outside getting ready to leave somehow we got chicks right in front of the club.555 I just need half an hour to bang out a report. Since I woke up and was not able to go back to sleep I thought that I must do the needful. After all, it was a great night out with you guys. I agree, PL99 always has the best girl in the house and as he likes to say "up to you" and depending on his mood either takes the girl or not. He will probably get the girl for free later in any case.

I did ask the girl where she was headed, I invited her to come dance with me at Mixx for a while and take things up from there. Alas, I wasn't as smooth as you, or as charming as PL99 to go in for the kill, I still got a lot to learn bro. It was something I wasn't expecting and I am glad that something like that happened on my last night in Pattaya to restore my confidence. 555.

Great report about the sponsored girl, she is definitely a keeper, she's got everything and much more to pass around :D

[Pointy Stick]

1) Take the tourist van from Pattaya to Koh Kong. Then take bus from Koh Kong to Sihanoukville. Not sure if you can do this in one day. It's smaller, but there are activities in Koh Kong. Of course, you take take private taxis for quicker transport. In Pattaya, I saw a company advertising Visa runs to Koh Kong on a nice van.

2) From Pattaya, go to the airport. Fly into Phnom Penh. Then take transport to Sihanoukville. If you take Air Asia, you might be able to get the last bus on Sorya. Private taxi one way will be $55 or $60.You may have to leave quite early in the day to make sure you get through the border or have to stay in Trat for the night. Buses from the border to Snooky are sketchy at best. It might be better to fly to to PP and taxi onward to Snooky.

[Vbbbb]

Last month I was in 808 and noticed a chick with her friends keep looking at me so I kept staring back. After about an hour I motioned her over. After minimal small talk of asking her why she keeps looking at me I decided to tell her let's go. She said you want me to go with you? I said of course. She said she needed to go home and get clothes first. I told her that she sure did because I didn't want her leaving my place the next morning with club clothes on. She didn't have a bike so we took mine.

We got to her place and she told me to leave my bike on the street. We went to a padlocked gate which she opened and we started walking down an alley. I thought to myself, not one of these places again (thinking I was in for a low budget hood experience). We got to the back of the alley and walked up a set of stairs. She opened the door and told me to have a seat. There were 2 sofas and about a 50 inch TV. It looked to be a common room. It was sparkling clean. When we walked in she said I'm not like those other girls in the club. I said what do you mean? She said I don't go with men for money. I said okay. She kept asking if I wanted to know what she does. I told her no, not really. She asked me if I wanted to stay there instead of going back to my place. She said that she has never stayed out of her home. I didn't really want to stay. Besides, I remembered leaving the AC on in my room...Super awesome, you are fucking winner man!

[AlLostInSpace13]

Hello, I must have some how missed this place from before. It sounds like a seedy establishment. LOL Can anyone tell me how to get there and what's on the menu?

Spaceman.

[Pipe Layer99]

Thursday, 2nd October ..... snip
I-Bar was chock full of people as always. Now the weird part was that PL99 and me had done two laps of the entire establishment (not one attractive girl made eye contact), I tried approaching close to 3-4 girls and every girl I approached seemed to inter-locked in a weird dance with another girl (called girlfriend / sister). Some cases the "girlfriend" immediately crosses her arms and says that her friend is out of bounds. I was like WTF! This happened the entire evening. ..... snip

808: I had almost forgotten about this, but since I remembered and was able to edit the post here is my take. Now I had been to 808 a club on walking street when it was relatively new and I was with a Thai girl at the time so it appeared to be to be a good club with no entry hassles. PL99 and I thought to try this place out last night before we headed to iBar since I had told him I had found the place OK. A bit of background, both PL99 and I were dressed casually with flip flops, while I do know that most clubs in any city of the world are strict about footwear in a club, the rules get a little diluted in Pattaya. At first, PL99 and I were not allowed to enter because we had flip flops on, which is OK a reasonable ground for not allowing entry, but when we stood at the gate for a minute or so, we found a Russian dude wearing the exact same attire as us and flip flops was allowed in, PL99 asked the doorman what was up and why he was being allowed entry. To which the stupid door man suggests to PL99 that he can go in the way he is but I being the Indian bloke wearing flip flops cannot go in. PL99 was seething at this insult and I had reached a point where I wasn't fazed by all of this crap.

So its unfortunate but must be noted that 808 is not an Indian friendly club anymore. Farangs from other places can go in with flip flops but well dressed or casually dressed Indians will not be allowed in. I wonder if things might be different if you go in with a Thai girl or is there a risk of being humiliated in this way again. I am not going to bother trying it again in any case. They clearly do not like the colour of my money.
First off, let me say that Action is a cool dude. Very easy going guy and he treats the ladies like a gentleman. It was good fun going to the bars, clubs, and restaurants together. Great wingman!

About the club girls: It's like that for everyone on occasion at the bars / clubs. Not every girl is going to be available (good thing there are hundreds more) smile. Yeah, some of them were 'stuck up', some probably have boyfriends (sending them money so maybe they didn't 'need' extra money that night), and a few others are just there for fun. But there are plenty more to choose from. And when the vibe is not good in one place, there are plenty of other places.

I also remember the one who needed her girlfriend's input. The ones who need their friend's input and / or approval are not worth your while IMO.

Regarding 808. Forget them. It's their loss. The club is small anyway.
You are cool in my book. It's unfortunate something like that happened. I congratulate you for your ability to let it roll off of your back and go have fun.

[Pipe Layer99]

..... snip
Mixx was rocking at the time and it was full, although the crowd had halfed after an hour or so......
I reached Mixx and the crowd had almost disappeared, the girls were still around acting like stuck up FLs just like the other night, but it was still better. I spoke to one or two, but did not get the right vibe so I enjoyed the music. In the meantime my buddy found a girl and decided to take off. Mr. E had already found his girl within 10 minutes of coming in and was just hanging around to give us company. PL99 was not interested in taking anyone home and was being my wingman. It is difficult to be a wingman for someone who is generally a pussy when it comes to approaching FLs in a club. Finally, HE selected the easiest target for me and well basically nudged me to her and I am glad that HE did. She was very new to the business and while she had a girl friend around the GF was only helping her translate and on the dance floor we sealed the deal. The GF walked out of Mixx quick, she wasn't interested in a pick up and was helping her friend who had arrived in Pattaya two days before. The girl Alex was 27 and from Khorat. I know all of 6 words in Thai and with her limited English made whatever little conversation we could. She was a great provider and it was a fun night. I paid her 1,000 + 200 in the morning. Wish I could locate and find such FLs in the future, they are so much better than the haughty twats around. It was great meeting up with PL99 and Mr. E both of whom are great guys and IMHO should pen a book demystifying Pattaya, it would be really popular among the newbie punters. I hope to catch you guys around soon sometime in the near future. Till then keep the girls in Pattaya happy. :DMixx was fun. Plenty of ladies to choose from. And it's open very late. Drinks are more expensive than other clubs. Its was about 180 baht for a drink or a beer. The girl Action took wasn't just an easy target. She was slim and pretty like HE prefers. That's why I pointed her out to him (and forced him to go talk to her on the dance floor). LMAO. At first I thought something was up when I saw her friend interjecting. So I quickly went out there to run interference and dance with the friend so Action could work his magic. But the friend was just translating, so we all just talked together. It was good all around. And now the last buddy was all set.

On this night I found a beauty who I called over to talk to me. I wasn't looking for company this night, just shopping. We had good conversation and lots of smiles. Then we danced right there next to the bar and man I was thinking I should take her. But I have been here for a over 4 months and I (well my balls) are running on fumes. So I had to have the night off. I took my girls number so I can meet her later. I don't want to have a one shot session with that beauty.

A little background, I had been trying to take a day off for the last 3 days. But I found a sweet Thai / Laos mixed lady 2 days before. Had 4 pops with her from 5 am to early evening the next day. I don't know how I managed that feat. The next day I hooked up with a girl whom I know already. So this night, I had to take a night off. Right?

My buddies were all hooked up. So I was happy to leave and go get some rest. I get back to my place about 5. 30 am and I have messages from a freebie. I have not seen her in a week. She wants to come over. I said OK. I'm so easy. I figured we could sleep and have fun the next afternoon (she doesn't start work until 5 pm). She shows up in 30 minutes with sandwiches for us and 2 large bottles of heinekin. What a sweet girl. I let her eat alone since I had already eaten. Afterwards she gets naked and gets in bed with me. I try to sleep but my hands keep fondling her nice round butt. So yep, you guessed it, we had a round of fun. So much for a day off. I slept until about 7. 30 pm. The funny thing about all of this is my buddies tell me I'm crazy for wanting a day off. To which I reply, try staying here for such a long time and then tell me.

To Action, it was great meeting up with you too. Look forward to your next visit.

[Pipe Layer99]

..... One night last month me and PL99 were in 808 and every chick in the place was shooting us down. We didn't know what the hell was going on. Then as soon as we walked outside getting ready to leave somehow we got chicks right in front of the club.That was an off night. Funny how it played out. In the club, I thought I had the girl I wanted all set. After dancing with her and having fun I thought it was a done deal. But then she told me she was just out to have fun with her friend from Bangkok and the friend had to leave the next day. I said ok no problem. We can hang out here tonight and after the club we can drop your friend off so she can sleep and I can take you with me. No dice. I took her number for the next day. We played awhile longer, then she just up and walked away. Two days after she texted me. But I was busy with another lady. She actually tried to reach me a few more times. But since she blew me off in the club I was no longer interested.

[Pipe Layer99]

Hello, I must have some how missed this place from before. It sounds like a seedy establishment. LOL Can anyone tell me how to get there and what's on the menu?
Spaceman.Go down Pattaya Tai to soi 2, turn left. Then look on the right side of the street for a red phone box. Everything is on the menu.

[ActionOriented]

My buddies were all hooked up. So I was happy to leave and go get some rest. I get back to my place about 5. 30 am and I have messages from a freebie. I have not seen her in a week. She wants to come over. I said OK. I'm so easy. I figured we could sleep and have fun the next afternoon (she doesn't start work until 5 pm). She shows up in 30 minutes with sandwiches for us and 2 large bottles of heinekin. What a sweet girl. I let her eat alone since I had already eaten. Afterwards she gets naked and gets in bed with me. I try to sleep but my hands keep fondling her nice round butt. So yep, you guessed it, we had a round of fun. So much for a day off. I slept until about 7. 30 pm. The funny thing about all of this is my buddies tell me I'm crazy for wanting a day off. To which I reply, try staying here for such a long time and then tell me.

To Action, it was great meeting up with you too. Look forward to your next visit.LOL brother, you are the definition of Red Bull, even when you do not want to hook up, girls are getting in your way and wanting to be taken by yours truly. I had actually thought that when you were walking back home from Mixx that you will finally get the quite night that you wanted, but which sensible man has been able to deny a freebie, LOL. Man, it must be tough being the PipeLayer in Pattaya. (wink).

Until we meet again bro, great memories from this trip.

[ConquerorVal]

...great memories from this trip.I really enjoyed your posts, and will miss them. Appreciate your energy in putting them up in such a timely manner. Also, I like your narrative style. Easy to read and informative. I remember walking past the Mixx disco. Am I correct to assume that this bar usually caters to a younger crowd, and not the more mature punters (45+)?

[Mr Enternational]

I remember walking past the Mixx disco. Am I correct to assume that this bar usually caters to a younger crowd, and not the more mature punters (45+)?Well I am 42 and I won't say how old PL99 is. But keep in mind that it is a disco that plays today's hits. And it is not just about punters. Many normal tourists go there as well.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xmRd9Wud0ks

[ActionOriented]

I really enjoyed your posts, and will miss them. Appreciate your energy in putting them up in such a timely manner. Also, I like your narrative style. Easy to read and informative. I remember walking past the Mixx disco. Am I correct to assume that this bar usually caters to a younger crowd, and not the more mature punters (45+)?Thanks, I agree with Mr. E, people from all age groups are welcome at Mixx. A younger crowd is to be found, but if you are there to pick out a FL, no matter what your age you will be entertained by the girls.

[ActionOriented]

Thanks, I agree with Mr. E, people from all age groups are welcome at Mixx. A younger crowd is to be found, but if you are there to pick out a FL, no matter what your age you will be entertained by the girls.Also, just to add a nugget of information which I forgot to add in my report was that Mixx has a few homosexual men in the crowd as well, the reason I came to this conclusion was that I got hit on by one guy. I almost ran out of the club. But otherwise its a fine place to party.

[Uncle Volodya]

I just went up to AMA and it was not a good experience. I needed to get 4 vests made for a friend and decided to use him for the Guinea pig. There were two guys inside, neither of which were Chris the owner. The guy helping me was drunk. It was 11 am. He told me that it would be from 800-2000 baht for each vest. I had to get some blue fabric matched. He pulled out one pelt but it was not close enough. He gave up after that one telling me they didn't have anything else. I had to go around the store trying to match it myself until I finally found one close enough. I no longer wanted to deal with the guy so I asked him when Chris would be in. He told me that He is at the factory and has no set hours to be at the shop. He gave me Chris' cell number and I called but there was no answer. I left my number at the shop for him to call me whenever He is in. I asked the guy how much it would be with the fabric that I picked out and He said 1200. I told him that I would pay 1000. Whenever Chris comes and if I decide to go back to the shop then I will change that to 900.Sorry to hear about your crappy experience Mr. E.

I've always dealt with either Chris directly, or with Raja (short young Indian guy that really knows his stuff). And they've always been very professional.

I do always call ahead to make sure that either of them is there as I rely on their advice for fabrics, fitting, etc.

If you do see Chris tell him about your negative experience. HE tries to run a tight ship and I am sure HE would be appalled that one of his staff was drunk on the job and giving you such terrible service.

[Mr Enternational]

Where exactly is Jacks watch shop, I have never heard of it but it sounds a good place if I decide to buy a fake watch.


Soi Buakhoa, 2nd shop in from Pattaya Klang side according to Google.Jack is actually in the third shop in from Pattaya Klang. There is a shop on the corner, then a watch shop, and Jack is the next shop after that. Yesterday I was in the second shop looking for a watch that a friend wants. A lady was helping me. As I walked out of the store I asked if the guy working on watches was Jack. She said no, Jack is in the shop next door.

[FreebieFan]

So I arrived in Pattaya having met the BKK massage lady in Suvarnabhumi and was happy that I had bought her with me.

I have been on and off in Asia for over 30 years but here I was on my cherry trip to Pattaya. Not sure how it got omitted from previous travel plans but it did.

First impressions. Never have I seen so many overweight, chubby, beer bellied guys. Never have I seen so many guys happily parading around some old Thai ladies who presumably look after the old codgers. Everyone, self included was in the monger uniform of tshirt, shorts, slippers, all with the goatee beard thing. Only thing I didn't have that these guys have, is endless tattoos.

Lots of Indian restaurants, more so than Birmingham LOL. Even saw one Indian fella trying to negotiate the baht bus fare. They always try, those guys.

Occasionally there would be a cute girl in a bar or two but for me, didn't see that many. Much much better looking girls in BKK.

First night, my girl gets wet from rain in Walking street. (Sugar baby best bar there, with a good show in Angelwitch). She takes an aspirin and gets an eye allergy. She goes to Banglamoon hospital at 2 am and returns at 7 am with eyes as closed as a Chinamans. Fortunately she's back to normal within a day.

So I was glad I had company. And what a sexual tiger she was. She wanted breakfast lunch and dinner sex. She would give my groin a squeeze now and again as we walked around to see if I had " signal". Or was " low batt". She told me she hadn't had sex for two years, and was clearly making up for it. I was left knackered and was happy to sleep most nights after lots of sexual exercise.

18 coins on Soi Bukhao makes great roast beef and Yorkie pudding, hadn't had that in a long time.

She took 6 days off work to be with me, and was appropriately compensated, but sadly, the place where she worked in Bangkok fired her, as she absent longer than 3 days. She didn't seem to mind.

Overall I didn't see guys having the time of their lives, rather everyone was quietly going on with their business in a town that on the surface, could quickly put you into a death spin of beer and babes where each day merges into the next. Clearly to live there, you need discipline and a plan for your life. Just my observations. Maybe Pattaya grows on you.

[Mouse1]

Overall I didn't see guys having the time of their lives.What would that look like?

Not sure its possible to be deliriously happy all day, or party all night long 24/7. Most guys there seem to be having a good time IMHO.

[ParasPatel9915]

Where to find good girls for action during noon to evening.

[Mouse1]

Where to find good girls for action during noon to evening.Good question. I don't think that has been asked before. Anyone have any suggestions to help out Mr Patel?

[ActionOriented]

Good question. I don't think that has been asked before. Anyone have any suggestions to help out Mr Patel?LOL, Mr. Patel should probably RTFF. I am sure the clue lies somewhere within the 15,000 odd reports on this thread.

[Gus69]

Mr Patel.

From noon to evening their are many girls to be found on Beach Road and also Tahitian Queen bar on Beach Road near to Mikes shopping mall, whether they are 'Good girls' you will have to decide.

[ActionOriented]

Mr Patel.

From noon to evening their are many girls to be found on Beach Road and also Tahitian Queen bar on Beach Road near to Mikes shopping mall, whether they are 'Good girls' you will have to decide.Tahitian Queen Bar on Beach Road will not allow an Indian (unaccompanied by farang) entry (even if it is late in the night and approaching closing time).

[Wolvenvacht]

Where to find good girls for action during noon to evening.Soi 6 and massage parlours all over Pattaya. Gogoclubs in Walking Street. Beerbars. Beach Road freelancers.

[Johnthescot]

Tahitian Queen Bar on Beach Road will not allow an Indian (unaccompanied by farang) entry (even if it is late in the night and approaching closing time).Quite shocking that there is such blatant discrimination. One of my Indian friends popped over couple of years ago when I was in Pattaya and while HE was wandering around in WS waiting on me doing my business in Soi 6 HE was refused entry into several gogos including Walking Street bar (with the red car). I was pretty shocked. I had never seen that before.

I have heard beer bar girls complaining about groups of indian guys not buying drinks but trying to get 1 girl to go with a group of them. I actually witnessed this myself once in a bar across from View Talay 6. About 6 or 7 young Indian guys were huddled in a group while the 'brave' one was talking to one girl. Nobody bought any drinks and they just all stood in a huddle beside the bar for 10 minutes. Apparently they were asking the girl to service them all in one room. Very strange. Sad that it has caused so much hassle for the normal Indian Monger.

JohnTheScot.

[Johnthescot]

Also, just to add a nugget of information which I forgot to add in my report was that Mixx has a few homosexual men in the crowd as well, the reason I came to this conclusion was that I got hit on by one guy. I almost ran out of the club. But otherwise its a fine place to party.You're just boasting now. :-)

JohnTheScot

[ActionOriented]

You're just boasting now. :-)

JohnTheScotLOL, wish I could see it that way :D


Quite shocking that there is such blatant discrimination. One of my Indian friends popped over couple of years ago when I was in Pattaya and while HE was wandering around in WS waiting on me doing my business in Soi 6 HE was refused entry into several gogos including Walking Street bar (with the red car). I was pretty shocked. I had never seen that before.

I have heard beer bar girls complaining about groups of indian guys not buying drinks but trying to get 1 girl to go with a group of them. I actually witnessed this myself once in a bar across from View Talay 6. About 6 or 7 young Indian guys were huddled in a group while the 'brave' one was talking to one girl. Nobody bought any drinks and they just all stood in a huddle beside the bar for 10 minutes. Apparently they were asking the girl to service them all in one room. Very strange. Sad that it has caused so much hassle for the normal Indian Monger.

JohnTheScot.It is indeed shocking, and I am sure they aren't infamous there for nothing. But I have an objection on casting such a wide net of discrimination that every other punter who takes it seriously and doesn't pull the so-called typical stunt also suffers as a result. I don't see that stereotype changing anytime soon.

[StripperMan]

Well I'm thinking about going back to Pattaya, and I'm hearing disturbing things about the cost of the girls. Apperently ST / LT pricing is 2000/3000 + 700 (bar fine-minimum) across the Go-Gos, and even higher on Walking Street?? That coyote-girls aside, and I emphasize see-girls aside, the pricing is 2-3 k+ BF minimum, and even higher at WhatsUp, Happy, Baccara, Iron, Sensations, etc. Is this true? Need some additional input from some of you vets please.

*I know Soi6 is up 300 to 1000+300, and I believe the better looking FL's on BR require 1000ST. I think the Insomnia girls are getting at least 1000. I'm wondering how much the non-Coyote girls at the bigger Go-Go's are requiring? Can we still get the hot ones at Iron & Baccara, ETC for 2/3 k + 700/1 k BF?

[NuMonger]

Where to find good girls for action during noon to evening.Patelji,

Indian and new to patts? Welcome. IMHO, go slow on the go gos. The gogo route needs some local exposure before the plunge.

The soapies are your best' and safe first bet. Try the oldie" sabai dee" , posh" rasputin" ,"Honeys 1 & 2" all in middle of town, open by 12 noon, alive by 3 pm.

Vibrant by 5 pm. Have a boom-booming time! And if you are up to it, keep a smiley face, then willing FLs will give you the look and "Hellooo. Where you goo. Ooo" Line. That is the standard pattaya line.

Bite the hook, sink the rod.

NM.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Well I'm thinking about going back to Pattaya, and I'm hearing disturbing things about the cost of the girls. Apperently ST / LT pricing is 2000/3000 + 700 (bar fine-minimum) across the Go-Gos, and even higher on Walking Street?? That coyote-girls aside, and I emphasize see-girls aside, the pricing is 2-3 k+ BF minimum, and even higher at WhatsUp, Happy, Baccara, Iron, Sensations, etc. Is this true? Need some additional input from some of you vets please.

*I know Soi6 is up 300 to 1000+300, and I believe the better looking FL's on BR require 1000ST. I think the Insomnia girls are getting at least 1000. I'm wondering how much the non-Coyote girls at the bigger Go-Go's are requiring? Can we still get the hot ones at Iron & Baccara, ETC for 2/3 k + 700/1 k BF?To Stripperman.

Yes price increase after the Bangkok shoutdown in Feb this yr everything is up most high end bar in Pattaya asking 700 bht barfined and 4000 bht for the girl all night and 2500 for ST, it is low season now so not many toruist, price at soi 6 is been 1300ST inhouse since first of the yr but most bar will go down to 1000 bht but take out is high girl want 2500 bht for all night with 1000 barfine but you can still get girl at beach Road for 500 bht ST the ugly one that is, dining out resturant price is up alot since last yr Fuji steak set lunch is 159 bht just 6 month ago is now 239 bht big jump only thing is not up is taxi and bus fare oil price is coming back down.

Fast eddie 48.

[Johnthescot]

Hi Guys,

Has anyone used the Devils Den VIP bus, with 2 girls, for the trip from the airport to Pattaya? What's the experience like?

It is expensive but as this is probably my last ever trip to Pattaya I am going to do it in style and to hell with a budget this time!! .

JohnTheScot.

[Mr Enternational]

Hi Guys,

Has anyone used the Devils Den VIP bus, with 2 girls, for the trip from the airport to Pattaya? What's the experience like?

It is expensive but as this is probably my last ever trip to Pattaya I am going to do it in style and to hell with a budget this time!! .

JohnTheScot.I reported last month that a girl who works there said they only do BJ in the van. A regular taxi to Pattaya is 1000 baht. I think it was last reported here that the DD van is 13000 baht to Pattaya. To hell with a budget. Pay 12000 baht for that BJ big spender.

[Member #4698]

this is probably my last ever trip to Pattaya I am going to do it in style and to hell with a budget this time!! .


I think it was last reported here that the DD van is 13000 baht to Pattaya. It's 14000 bt according to the website. John, A much better bang for your baht is to take two DD girls over night. There will be a lot more fun and sex. I guarantee it. DD Over Night outcall (10 pm 6 am) 7,800 bt/ per girl. Just pick two right girls.

On 2nd thought, if I were you, I would go to Sensations A Go Go, take a good looking agency girl, and have a blast for 4000 bt LT plus barfine.

[Sunlover2]

A much better bang for your baht is to take two DD girls over night. There will be a lot more fun and sex. I guarantee it. DD Over Night outcall (10 pm 6 am) 7,800 bt/ per girl. Just pick two right girls.The 7,800 Baht price is for two DD ladies overnight: http://devilsdenthailand.com/out-call.html.

I would agree if doing a DD outcall you should take them two at a time; as with one at a time the performance can be much more variable. I like to pick one lady and then have her choose her partner in crime.

SL.

[Uncle Volodya]

Hi Guys,

Has anyone used the Devils Den VIP bus, with 2 girls, for the trip from the airport to Pattaya? What's the experience like?

It is expensive but as this is probably my last ever trip to Pattaya I am going to do it in style and to hell with a budget this time!! .

JohnTheScot.The guys are probably right about service and value. But I'm also curious as hell about how the "bus trip" goes down.

You really only have about 1. 5 to 2 hours (this is one case where you'd actually be praying for traffic). LOL.

Hell if I had money to burn I'd give it a shot.

If you do do it. Please post your experience. It will make great reading!

[Fast Eddie 48]

Hi Guys,

Has anyone used the Devils Den VIP bus, with 2 girls, for the trip from the airport to Pattaya? What's the experience like?

It is expensive but as this is probably my last ever trip to Pattaya I am going to do it in style and to hell with a budget this time!! .

JohnTheScot.To Johnthescot.

If you want to do it in style you should rent a private jet have have a Orgy in 10,000 ft, not sure just a BJ in a van doing any thing for me just go to Bliss lounge in pattaya BBBJ there is 700 bht.

Fast eddie 48.

[Mr Enternational]

The guys are probably right about service and value. But I'm also curious as hell about how the "bus trip" goes down.

You really only have about 1. 5 to 2 hours (this is one case where you'd actually be praying for traffic). LOL.

Hell if I had money to burn I'd give it a shot.Well my driver picked me up at 2:30 the other night and at 3:45 I was opening my eyes at the airport. So HE is only looking at 1 hour of actually doing anything. Like Eddie said HE is better off getting 20 BJs from Bliss Lounge than being a guinea pig in the mystery machine. These type of things sound good on paper but afterwards you will be like damn I just wasted X baht on some bullshit.

[Mr Enternational]

only thing is not up is taxi and bus fare oil price is coming back down.Nope. Taxi fares going up!

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/767171-thai-taxi-fares-to-go-up-but-taxi-condition-and-driver-behavior-must-also-improve/?utm_source=newsletter-20141010-0741&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

[Johnthescot]

It's 14000 bt according to the website. John, A much better bang for your baht is to take two DD girls over night. There will be a lot more fun and sex. I guarantee it. DD Over Night outcall (10 pm 6 am) 7,800 bt/ per girl. Just pick two right girls.

On 2nd thought, if I were you, I would go to Sensations A Go Go, take a good looking agency girl, and have a blast for 4000 bt LT plus barfine.It was just to do something on way to Pattaya. On second thoughts maybe it is a bit much. I can just buy all the forum guys in Pattaya a beer with that money instead.

JohnTheScott.

[Johnthescot]

I reported last month that a girl who works there said they only do BJ in the van. A regular taxi to Pattaya is 1000 baht. I think it was last reported here that the DD van is 13000 baht to Pattaya. To hell with a budget. Pay 12000 baht for that BJ big spender.Thanks,

Guess it's a bit steep for a couple of BJs. I just fancy doing somthing over the top. Not on a budget really so maybe.

or I can just do my usual and get taxi with a few beers to drink on the way and I can just fantasise about the fun coming up instead! :-)

JohnTheScot.

[Johnthescot]

The guys are probably right about service and value. But I'm also curious as hell about how the "bus trip" goes down.

You really only have about 1. 5 to 2 hours (this is one case where you'd actually be praying for traffic). LOL.

Hell if I had money to burn I'd give it a shot.

If you do do it. Please post your experience. It will make great reading!UV,

It's just the sheer decadence of it that attracts me to it. I can't book on the website for Dec until next month so I have time to think about it. It's hardly a fortune though.

So maybe. .

JohnTheScot.

[Johnthescot]

To Johnthescot.

If you want to do it in style you should rent a private jet have have a Orgy in 10,000 ft, not sure just a BJ in a van doing any thing for me just go to Bliss lounge in pattaya BBBJ there is 700 bht.

Fast eddie 48.Fast Eddie 48 - Good idea. Do they have jets at Pattaya airfield? .

In my 20+ visits to Pattaya over the last 17 ish years I have never been in a BJ bar. I'll add this to the list for Dec trip. Thanks.

JohnTheScot.

[ActionOriented]

If you are passing through Bangkok during daylight / evening hours, you might as well pass through Sukhumvit to get an oily out of the way or go through one of the soapies on the other side, because you are not likely to experience a good naughty massage place (meeting Bangkok standards) in Pattaya. If you are or have ever been a fan of such places, it might be worth trying them out for the last time.

Also, your list is ever-expanding, in addition to Bliss Lounge as recommended below, you can also add Telephone Bar and Club 4 to your list as well. Also, there is My Friend You and Click Bar on soi 6. Damn quite a few places to get BJ only in Pattaya (haven't included **** yet).

[Member #4698]

It was just to do something on way to Pattaya. On second thoughts maybe it is a bit much. I can just buy all the forum guys in Pattaya a beer with that money instead.

JohnTheScott.There you go. So what bar do you want to meet up? LOL.

[Uncle Volodya]

UV,

It's just the sheer decadence of it that attracts me to it. I can't book on the website for Dec until next month so I have time to think about it. It's hardly a fortune though.

So maybe. .

JohnTheScot.LOL.

I think we were both thinking that it would go down like the opening scene in Dolemite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stmzlKVYncw

But the reality is probably a lot less tantalizing.

[Shansawy]

Where can I get a good deal on Maxman 100.

I heard it do miracles anyone used it?

[ParasPatel9915]

Hahahaha.

Thanks for reply. Keep providing advice to make fresher's trip worth.

I will try Rasputin Sabai dee, as per your guideline.

Is negotiation advisable or not to bargain if no chances of cheating??


Patelji,

Indian and new to patts? Welcome. IMHO, go slow on the go gos. The gogo route needs some local exposure before the plunge.

The soapies are your best' and safe first bet. Try the oldie" sabai dee" , posh" rasputin" ,"Honeys 1 & 2" all in middle of town, open by 12 noon, alive by 3 pm.

Vibrant by 5 pm. Have a boom-booming time! And if you are up to it, keep a smiley face, then willing FLs will give you the look and "Hellooo. Where you goo. Ooo" Line. That is the standard pattaya line.

Bite the hook, sink the rod.

NM.

[Johnthescot]

If you are passing through Bangkok during daylight / evening hours, you might as well pass through Sukhumvit to get an oily out of the way or go through one of the soapies on the other side, because you are not likely to experience a good naughty massage place (meeting Bangkok standards) in Pattaya. If you are or have ever been a fan of such places, it might be worth trying them out for the last time.

Also, your list is ever-expanding, in addition to Bliss Lounge as recommended below, you can also add Telephone Bar and Club 4 to your list as well. Also, there is My Friend You and Click Bar on soi 6. Damn quite a few places to get BJ only in Pattaya (haven't included **** yet).Thanks ActionOriented.

I am compiling a OneNote list of all places I haven't been yet that I am seeing mentioned in the forum. I've not read the forum for a year so a lot to get through. Started 100 pages back and half way through!!The list is growing. .

As for Bangkok, been there every trip so have experienced a a few oilies and soapys. I'll prob head to Bangkok for a few days in the middle. Got to say goodbye to Soi Cowboy and Nana in style too.

JohnTheScot.

[Johnthescot]

There you go. So what bar do you want to meet up? LOL.Haha, If you are there you can certainly have a beer on me. Just to show Scots aren't really tight!!

JohnTheScot.

[Johnthescot]

lol.

i think we were both thinking that it would go down like the opening scene in dolemite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stmzlkvyncw

but the reality is probably a lot less tantalizing.haha. i doubt it will live up to my fantasies. saying that, how bad can 2 naked girls giving you a bj while you drink beer in a nice comfortable minivan with a bar?

i have visions of 2 girls looking like total working girl's standing at arrivals with a big sign saying johnthescot, micro short dresses with devils den written on them. an official collects you when you get off plane, takes yiou to vip passport control where you are speeded through to get your luggage, then th egirls are waiting for you at arrivals gate!!

the big problem is my english gf will be getting off the plane too to connect to sydney. maybe not a great idea to be met off the plane!! i am going to visit my sick english friend in chang mai after all.

johnthescot.

[FreebieFan]

. Got to say goodbye to Soi Cowboy and Nana in style too.

JohnTheScot.Just a question, but how do you know its your last trip. ? Getting married and not sure you can wing a " honey I'm going to Majorca to play golf " and end up in Soi 26 ?

[Johnthescot]

Just a question, but how do you know its your last trip. ? Getting married and not sure you can wing a " honey I'm going to Majorca to play golf " and end up in Soi 26 ?Yup FreebieFan,

That is pretty much what is happening. Not married but we now live together for last year. Been together for 3 years and I have managed 4 trips in that time. I'm a good liar and I lie in advance. Thats a good skill to have.
(This author in no way condones lying in any form to anyone - Native Thai laydee or Ferang. )


BUT even my skills get a bit tired after a while. Before SHE, I was about a 20 times vistor from UK (Even stayed in pattaya for 6 months with a good redundancy deal - And left after spending 30k and needing to go back to UK to get a contract again!! :-) )

When she tried to change our Dec holiday this year in maldives 2 weeks to a Australia 2 weeks she tried to sweeten the deal by saying "why don't you go see your mates in Thailand and I can meet you there 2 weeks later? She knows I have been there many times BUT if you lie in advance I. E. Fiirst date =.

Her -I love thailand been a few times, Love the islands".

Me - "Oh wow, so do I, been many times, have some frineds there, english and Thai, great place. I'd live there".

Her - " Yeah it is so laid back The people are lovely and friendly and I love the food and full moon paty and the budha in such and such a place etc etc . And. And. ".

Me - " Just hate how it sometimes get such a bad press. All those fcuking sex tourists. It's such a small part of the place. I see the real place so much and I hate that. Got lots of good thai and english frineds there now! I get to see the real Thailand. Just live like the locals etc"

OK soooooo 3 years later " ok I want to go see my sister in Sydney again. You are welcome to come. or You're welcome to go see your mates in thailand and we can meet in BKK or Hanoi or Hong Kong etc (like last year)" .

She thinks she is putting me out. I love her so not taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), but if you plan ahead. And I mean 3 years. Then the world is your oyster. .

BUT I do love her so I think this will be it. Maybe.

JohnTheScot.

[FreebieFan]

Yup FreebieFan,




Her -I love thailand been a few times, Love the islands".

Me - "Oh wow, so do I, been many times, have some frineds there, english and Thai, great place. I'd live there".

Her - " Yeah it is so laid back The people are lovely and friendly and I love the food and full moon paty and the budha in such and such a place etc etc . And. And. ".

Me - " Just hate how it sometimes get such a bad press. All those fcuking sex tourists. It's such a small part of the place. I see the real place so much and I hate that. Got lots of good thai and english frineds there now! I get to see the real Thailand. Just live like the locals etc"

OK soooooo 3 years later " ok I want to go see my sister in Sydney again. You are welcome to come. or You're welcome to go see your mates in thailand and we can meet in BKK or Hanoi or Hong Kong etc (like last year)" .

She thinks she is putting me out. I love her so not taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140), but if you plan ahead. And I mean 3 years. Then the world is your oyster. .

BUT I do love her so I think this will be it. Maybe.

JohnTheScot.To paraphrase Arnold " You'll be back " !. Those cold nights at home, when you are thinking that a little brown lady next to you would ease you worries and frustration, when you know the Thai the bar has naked babes instead of grumpy old men drinking pints and chasers, when the icicles on your house could so easily be replaced by warming Thai sunshine. Yes you will be back.

" Honey, I'm just going to the shops for some milk. It won't take longer than 2 weeks ".

[Johnthescot]

To paraphrase Arnold " You'll be back " !. Those cold nights at home, when you are thinking that a little brown lady next to you would ease you worries and frustration, when you know the Thai the bar has naked babes instead of grumpy old men drinking pints and chasers, when the icicles on your house could so easily be replaced by warming Thai sunshine. Yes you will be back.

" Honey, I'm just going to the shops for some milk. It won't take longer than 2 weeks ".Damn You to hell FreebieFan. I AM DIFFERENT. I HAVE A FREE WILL!

Oh wait I'll get back to you, got a text from a girl caled oy, nah, ta, nong, bing, bong, porn, bing bong want to meet hansum man love me too mcuh I think!! :

JohnTheScot.

P.S.

NO I will use you all to help me be a better person. We can do this. Together. Rehabilitate someome. I'll take it on for all you victims!!

[Wolvenvacht]

Damn You to hell FreebieFan. I AM DIFFERENT. I HAVE A FREE WILL!

Oh wait I'll get back to you, got a text from a girl caled oy, nah, ta, nong, bing, bong, porn, bing bong want to meet hansum man love me too mcuh I think!! :

JohnTheScot.

P.S.

NO I will use you all to help me be a better person. We can do this. Together. Rehabilitate someome. I'll take it on for all you victims!!On this forum we may have a different definition of "better person", so beware! ;)

(one week and one day and I leave for LOS again).

[Wolvenvacht]

Damn You to hell FreebieFan. I AM DIFFERENT. I HAVE A FREE WILL!What good is your free will.

If the cold winters here make you chill'?

And the honeys of Sukhumvit's alleys.

Invite you to explore their juicy valleys?

They will ride you in true Asian cowgirl style.

Until your face is all a-smile.

[Mogwai]

Me - " Just hate how it sometimes get such a bad press. All those fcuking sex tourists. It's such a small part of the place. I see the real place so much and I hate that. Got lots of good thai and english frineds there now! I get to see the real Thailand. Just live like the locals etc" But what do you do when your girl friends wants to meet those 'good' Thai and English friends I wonder? Or do you really have friends in Thailand outside the P4 P scene?




NO I will use you all to help me be a better person. We can do this. Together. Rehabilitate someome. I'll take it on for all you victims!!I'm afraid we can't help you anymore. There's no hope for you anymore, LOL!

[Bunky]

Where to find good girls for action during noon to evening.Welcome to the forum Mr. Patel. Glad to see you put so much effort into your third post!

But I digress.

If you are looking for "good girls for action during noon to evening" there is no substitute for Soi 6/1, between Second Road and Beach Road. NOTE WELL: Soi 6/1 is *NOT* the same as Soi 6. It runs parallel to Soi 6, but slightly to the south. My advice would be to take a baht bus headed north on Second Road and get off on Soi 6/1, then walk west toward Beach Road.

You will see many lovely Thai ladies there who are definitely interested in being "good" to you. Some of them boast the physique of a model, with tall statuesque bearing, ample cleavages and so forth. You can have a drink with them in the bars along Soi 6/1 and if you hit it off you can retire to a room on the premises for a short time session that I promise you will not forget. Just as you desire, they will certainly be "up for action," if you know what I mean. The price will usually be 700 to the lady, plus 300 to the bar for use of the room. But sometimes the ladies will desire 1000.

Have fun! I look forward to more informative posts from you on this forum.

Bunky

[Wolvenvacht]

If you are looking for "good girls for action during noon to evening" there is no substitute for Soi 6/1, between Second Road and Beach Road. NOTE WELL: Soi 6/1 is *NOT* the same as Soi 6. It runs parallel to Soi 6, but slightly to the south. My advice would be to take a baht bus headed north on Second Road and get off on Soi 6/1, then walk west toward Beach Road.Bunky, you are sooooo cruel!

[ActionOriented]

You will see many lovely Thai ladies there who are definitely interested in being "good" to you. Some of them boast the physique of a model, with tall statuesque bearing, ample cleavages and so forth. You can have a drink with them in the bars along Soi 6/1
BunkyI agree, soi 6/1 is the answer 555, the quality available is far superior than soi 6. First stop in Pattaya recommended. :D

[Pipe Layer99]

...
You will see many lovely Thai ladies there who are definitely interested in being "good" to you. Some of them boast the physique of a model, with tall statuesque bearing, ample cleavages and so forth. You can have a drink with them in the bars along Soi 6/1 ....
You just have to make SURE you can tell the difference between a female and a ladyboy 6/1.

I think you will have better time Soi 6.

[Mouse1]

You just have to make SURE you can tell the difference between a female and a ladyboy 6/1.

I think you will have better time Soi 6.Yes, be careful. Soi 6 is crawling with ladyboys these days. But Soi6/1 will guarantee you some solid action that you won't forget in a long time.

[JesseJames]

But what do you do when your girl friends wants to meet those 'good' Thai and English friends I wonder? Or do you really have friends in Thailand outside the P4 P scene?

I'm afraid we can't help you anymore. There's no hope for you anymore, LOL!If there was no sex scene, Pattaya would be a ghost town.

[Hermescali]

If there was no sex scene, Pattaya would be a ghost town.European retired couples from Nov to April, Russian faamilies during both Russian summer and winter, Asian tour groups make nowadays more visitors to Pattaya than sex tourists. Of course if you only operate from durk till dawn in some parts of Pattaya, you may be misleaded.

[Macho Dik]

Dear All,

I have been staying at least 2 nights in Bangkok whenever I visit Thailand on a stop over for soem relaxation.

I am planning to stay in Pataya this time as I feel a bit bored staying Bankok.

Now, quesitons is, last time I stay in Penthouse hotel In Pataya that was way back 4 or 5 years ago, I wodner if they have make a good renovation in their rooms as last time I smell some odor that normall occurs for an old house.

I wonder if there is any advise on the girlfriendly hotel around there and also what is the present market prices for ST and LT for bars around. I know some guys may ask me to "RTFF". But I still need some advises from pro here, Specially FreebieFan, FastEddie etc.

Thanks.

Cherrs,

MD.

[Pipe Layer99]

Dear All,
I am planning to stay in Pataya this time as I feel a bit bored staying Bankok.
Now, quesitons is, last time I stay in Penthouse hotel In Pataya that was way back 4 or 5 years ago, I wodner if they have make a good renovation in their rooms as last time I smell some odor that normall occurs for an old house.
MD.Book a room for about 2 days. Then go walk the sois and find a nice guest house. You can find a room between 500 - 800 baht per night. Easy!

Find yourself a nice guest house. I'm paying 12,000 a month (and that includes everything: big room, safe box, ac, fridge, coffee, security camera). Some guys here think I am over-paying but I don't care. I like my place and the location is great.

[ActionOriented]

Now, quesitons is, last time I stay in Penthouse hotel In Pataya that was way back 4 or 5 years ago, I wodner if they have make a good renovation in their rooms as last time I smell some odor that normall occurs for an old house.
Since you have stayed at the Penthouse hotel before I am sure you are aware that it is a hotel which is run and managed by LB's. There is a separate thread on it on the Thailand pages for this hotel and the page was shut down by Jackson for this reason. The pictures of the rooms of this hotel on the internet appear to be very clean and renovated, but for that price you will find several hotels in and around the same soi. Much cheaper stuff (with good value) is to be had near the LK Metro area. You could stay here for a day or two like PL99 suggested, and find an alternative in the meantime.

[RacShack]

Book a room for about 2 days. Then go walk the sois and find a nice guest house. You can find a room between 500 - 800 baht per night. Easy!

Find yourself a nice guest house. I'm paying 12,000 a month (and that includes everything: big room, safe box, ac, fridge, coffee, security camera). Some guys here think I am over-paying but I don't care. I like my place and the location is great.Tried Penthouse hotel in April, don't do it, no customer service, thinks she's better they everybody, rooms infested with cockroaches! Smell horrible, I check out went to (Soi buakhoa) area stayed at Sutus court which I liked a lot very picky here where I stay (landmark in Bangkok) but this hotel is basic hotel for I think 900 baht a night nice big bathroom walk in shower, big room with balcony, refrigerator, balcony, 2 free bottles water everyday, and I like the area, oh and 2 pools!

[Macho Dik]

Tried Penthouse hotel in April, don't do it, no customer service, thinks she's better they everybody, rooms infested with cockroaches! Smell horrible, I check out went to (Soi buakhoa) area stayed at Sutus court which I liked a lot very picky here where I stay (landmark in Bangkok) but this hotel is basic hotel for I think 900 baht a night nice big bathroom walk in shower, big room with balcony, refrigerator, balcony, 2 free bottles water everyday, and I like the area, oh and 2 pools!


Since you have stayed at the Penthouse hotel before I am sure you are aware that it is a hotel which is run and managed by LB's. There is a separate thread on it on the Thailand pages for this hotel and the page was shut down by Jackson for this reason. The pictures of the rooms of this hotel on the internet appear to be very clean and renovated, but for that price you will find several hotels in and around the same soi. Much cheaper stuff (with good value) is to be had near the LK Metro area. You could stay here for a day or two like PL99 suggested, and find an alternative in the meantime.


Book a room for about 2 days. Then go walk the sois and find a nice guest house. You can find a room between 500 - 800 baht per night. Easy!

Find yourself a nice guest house. I'm paying 12,000 a month (and that includes everything: big room, safe box, ac, fridge, coffee, security camera). Some guys here think I am over-paying but I don't care. I like my place and the location is great.Dear Brothers,

Thnaks for your nice advise.

It was the terrible smell and run down room of Penthouse hotel that make me looking for some more advises of a nice good hotel. In Bangkok, I always stay in Majestic Grande that is nioce and clean and I am also looking for something like that in Pataya. I hope to have some recomedation hotel names and my preferences is near to the action area. Also been away from Pataya scene for quite a while, so I need some advise on how the rate for ST and LT in those bars.

In Bangkok, they are always asking for ST 2500 and LT 4000 baht for those bars in soi nana and soi cowboy. Plus bar fine 600 Bhat. How about in Pataya? I understand its much cheaper there. Last time I pay Bhat 2500 for LT of the girl I take from a go-go bar.

Cheers,

MD.

[Free Kick]

Yes, be careful. Soi 6 is crawling with ladyboys these days. But Soi6/1 will guarantee you some solid action that you won't forget in a long time.I'd second that. In old days only Soi 6/1 was a night time dwelling spot for large ugly ladyboys (darn, I wouldn't mind if at least they were beautiful) but now with the introduction of not one, not two but at least 3 or so ladyboy bars in the Soi 6 plus the freelancers even Soi 6 which I absolutely used to love and still do the lady part is completely being overtaken by these ugly big foots.

Especially after around 1 am, both of these streets have no life and light at all and with at least 30-40 hiding in various nooks and crannies of the two parallel streets makes it a dark, dingy and notorious ladyboy galore.

If I have to walk through after 1 am to get to either Beach Road or Second Road, I remember taking a longer walk through Soi 5 or even a more longer walk through Central Pattaya Road. These are the two closest ways you can avoid those scary in Soi 6 and Soi 6/1.

[Free Kick]

Since you have stayed at the Penthouse hotel before I am sure you are aware that it is a hotel which is run and managed by LB's.I know a guy I met in Pattaya who actually got conned by a joint named Vault. They sell rooms on their site naming them things like the 'Original Penthouse' etc. , and when he got there, he found out to his horror that Vault was a run down motel type of a place without basic stuff such as security or swimming pool, not even a decent tv signal etc. Overall it was not the real deal and I remember this guy telling me that the Penthouse was run by some Australian, English and American partners. Are you sure its run by ladyboys? I mean, I don't have anything against ladyboys as long as they don't start getting all touchy like they do in some of the GG bars.

Did the place got sold or what?

[Free Kick]

Tried Penthouse hotel in April, don't do it, no customer service, thinks she's better they everybody, rooms infested with cockroaches! Smell horrible, I check out went to (Soi buakhoa) area stayed at Sutus court which I liked a lot very picky here where I stay (landmark in Bangkok) but this hotel is basic hotel for I think 900 baht a nightI hear mixed feedbacks on Penthouse, some people reporting it being cockroach infested and some stating that they didn't see any roaches.

Having said that, it is hard to decide but I'm very much inclined to try Penthouse some day for a few nights.

What I would prefer is that the indoor pool of Penthouse which it is so famous for (as hardly any Pattaya hotels have well maintained indoor pools) would remain on the whole evening. Another thing that I feel is a bit too much is the way its marketing team defends this hotel so fiercely. Customers should have a say. Again, I haven't tried the place so only saying from what I read online or heard from people I've met.

I was planning to try Sutus Court during my next visit but it seems even they have cockroaches as the first review on Trip Advisor states but moreover I hate rude staff and the stained sheets which sound absolutely scary:

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g293919-d2283542-Reviews-Sutus_Court-Pattaya_Chonburi_Province.html

I usually stay in LK Empress, Holiday Inn, Hard Rock (where I have found cockroaches too) but it was the crappy furniture, lack of sound proofing and rude staff that made me move on to LK Empress and Holiday Inn.

[ActionOriented]

In Bangkok, they are always asking for ST 2500 and LT 4000 baht for those bars in soi nana and soi cowboy. Plus bar fine 600 Bhat. How about in Pataya? I understand its much cheaper there. Last time I pay Bhat 2500 for LT of the girl I take from a go-go bar.

Cheers,

MD.A search on the Pattaya Hotels thread should yield good results.

Many Pattaya a-GoGos have a sliding bar fine which means that before 12 am, the bar fine would be much higher. Coyote girls have bar fines between (THB 1000 - 1500) and their ST / LT rates are equally terrible (something like THB 2,500 up). So Pattaya aGoGos are generally not that cheap (if you end up picking coyotes).

[Free Kick]

Dear Brothers,

In Bangkok, I always stay in Majestic Grande that is nioce and clean and I am also looking for something like that in Pataya. I hope to have some recomedation hotel names and my preferences is near to the action area. Also been away from Pataya scene for quite a while, so I need some advise on how the rate for ST and LT in those bars.

In Bangkok, they are always asking for ST 2500 and LT 4000 baht for those bars in soi nana and soi cowboy. Plus bar fine 600 Bhat. How about in Pataya? I understand its much cheaper there. Last time I pay Bhat 2500 for LT of the girl I take from a go-go bar.

Cheers,

MD.Holiday Inn Bangkok is quite nice. Never had a problem, friendly staff and very close to Soi Cowboy, a 10 minute walk, more or less.

In Pattaya, like I said previously, try the LK Empress or if you fancy breath taking views of Pattaya bay then go for the Holiday Inn. Oh, forgot to mention that I've also stayed at the Hilton but their 2,000 baht (plus taxes) joiner fee was too harsh as some nights I come back with my regular girlfriend and two more. Although I did tell them they were only there to teach me Thai language.

Even though you've been away for a while, your prices are quite accurate.

Bangkok beer bars, I haven't found any under 600 to 700 BF recently, ST 2000 to LT 3500. Agogos, BF 900 to 1700 (plus tip to keep the Mamasan happy when you take her best girls out and to keep yourself in her white-list) ST 2500 to 5500.

Pattaya beer bars, BF really varies from 300 till 700. ST 1500 to LT 2500. Agogos, BF also varies from 600 to 1500 (yes, I once bar fined this star fish aka coyote, my fault) ST 2000 to LT 4500.

[ActionOriented]

I'd second that. In old days only Soi 6/1 was a night time dwelling spot for large ugly ladyboys (darn, I wouldn't mind if at least they were beautiful) but now with the introduction of not one, not two but at least 3 or so ladyboy bars in the Soi 6 plus the freelancers even Soi 6 which I absolutely used to love and still do the lady part is completely being overtaken by these ugly big foots.

Especially after around 1 am, both of these streets have no life and light at all and with at least 30-40 hiding in various nooks and crannies of the two parallel streets makes it a dark, dingy and notorious ladyboy galore.

If I have to walk through after 1 am to get to either Beach Road or Second Road, I remember taking a longer walk through Soi 5 or even a more longer walk through Central Pattaya Road. These are the two closest ways you can avoid those scary in Soi 6 and Soi 6/1.I have walked through soi 6 on my way to beach road after closing time (1-2 am) and I do agree that only LB's roam the stretch but they are hardly aggressive unlike the ones found elsewhere. In the dark, I could not comment on how they looked. Soi 6 has got several bars which cater to LB's (Pook, Suzie Wong etc) and some bars have a mixed crowd, the footfall in this soi seemed very depleted on my last visit, it could however only be a seasonal phenomenon as opposed to a large shift out of soi 6 due to a so-called take over by the LB's. Also, a lot of the LB's working the bars on soi 6 (if not bar fined already) can be found as FL's on WS, I happened to see 2-3 such whom I had seen (in passing) not one hour before on soi 6.

Don't be afraid to walk through soi 6, 6/1 is another story.

[Mouse1]

I'd second that. In old days only Soi 6/1 was a night time dwelling spot for large ugly ladyboys (darn, I wouldn't mind if at least they were beautiful) but now with the introduction of not one, not two but at least 3 or so ladyboy bars in the Soi 6 plus the freelancers even Soi 6 which I absolutely used to love and still do the lady part is completely being overtaken by these ugly big foots.

Especially after around 1 am, both of these streets have no life and light at all and with at least 30-40 hiding in various nooks and crannies of the two parallel streets makes it a dark, dingy and notorious ladyboy galore.

If I have to walk through after 1 am to get to either Beach Road or Second Road, I remember taking a longer walk through Soi 5 or even a more longer walk through Central Pattaya Road. These are the two closest ways you can avoid those scary in Soi 6 and Soi 6/1.So my comments were tongue in cheek, as it were. I'm not usually out and about at 2 am, but I have to say I never have problems with ladyboys. A cheery 'How's it going, guys?' is usually enough to put them off, and I stroll on unmolested.

[Mouse1]

If I have to walk through after 1 am to get to either Beach Road or Second Road, I remember taking a longer walk through Soi 5 or even a more longer walk through Central Pattaya Road. These are the two closest ways you can avoid those scary in Soi 6 and Soi 6/1.Seriously? What do you really think they are going to do to you? The very worst I have ever experienced is a tug on the arm.

[Bunky]

It was the terrible smell and run down room of Penthouse hotel that make me looking for some more advises of a nice good hotel. In Bangkok, I always stay in Majestic Grande that is nice and clean and I am also looking for something like that in Pataya. I hope to have some recommendation hotel names and my preferences is near to the action area.Check out the LK chain of hotels:

http://www.lkpattaya.com/

They have multiple locations in Pattaya, many of them very convenient to the places favored by naughty boys.

For example, the LK Renaissance is just steps from Soi LK Metro:

http://www.lkpattaya.com/map.php?hotel_session=LK%20Renaissance

And the LK Royal Suite is on Soi Buakaow, very close to the night market:

http://www.lkpattaya.com/map.php?hotel_session=LK%20Royal%20Suite

If you want something closer to the beach, try the LK Empress:

http://www.lkpattaya.com/map.php?hotel_session=LK%20The%20Empress

If you're looking for something less expensive, surf over to the Pattaya *HOTELS* forum and read up on the guest houses in Central Pattaya on Soi Buakaow, Soi Lengkee and Soi Chaiyapoon. Lots of nice places to stay in the 1000 baht per night range. If you're looking for something more expensive and/or closer to the ocean, check out the Page 10, the Baraquda or the Sea Me Spring. If you're made of money the Hilton is nice, as is the Marriott.

Bunky

[ActionOriented]

CIf you want something closer to the beach, try the LK Empress:

http://www.lkpattaya.com/map.php?hotel_session=LK%20The%20Empress

Since the discussion has now moved onto hotels on the reports page, my suggestion to MD is if you want to stay within WS, try Jasmine Suites. Alternatively, any of the recommendations by Bunky are good and then there are a few cheaper options which can be found from soi 13 all the way to soi Lengkee.

[Macho Dik]

Thanks to Action Oriented, Bunky and Free Kick for your kind comment and recomendation.

I wish yours or any other brothers here to further give some feedback for the following questions;.

1) in Pattaya, is the action area concentrate in Walking street or also in Soi Metro? Last time as time is not allowed me to further adventure other spot, so I only concentrate in Walking street and I have seen so many a go go bars along the street and till the far end, I can see some outdoor open air beer bars wherein the girls around there also can be taken out too.

2) Between Bangkok and Pattaya, in my previous understanding Bankok like in NEP and Soi cowboy tends to have much expensive in terms for ST and LT with flat Bhat 600. While in Pattaya in my last visit way back 4 or 5 years ago they only charge BHT 500 or 600 for Bar Fine and lady accept for LT of Bhat 2500. But I was surpirise for your feedback yesterday that BF in Pattaya is way high and ST and LT is almost or highier than that in Bankok, is this because Pattaya normally cater tourist?

Cheers,

MD.

[Bunky]

In Pattaya is the action area concentrated in Walking street or also in Soi Metro?The "action areas" in Pattaya are described at GREAT length in previous pages of this forum. Go back about 30-40 pages and read. You'll see reports on three main areas: Walking Street (mostly go go clubs, plus discos where freelancers hang out); Soi LK Metro (increasingly a go go club venue, but also beer bars); and Soi 6 (smaller bars where short-time, on premises sessions are on offer). If you don't know where those areas are located, buy a map. I like the Groovy map of Pattaya, which is available from numerous online sellers. Once you do your homework, you can ask informed questions that will get a response. You won't get anywhere with clueless newbie queries that mark you as somebody who is too lazy to go back and read previous reports.


Between Bangkok and Pattaya, in my previous understanding Bankok like in NEP and Soi cowboy tends to have much expensive in terms for ST and LT with flat Bhat 600. While in Pattaya in my last visit way back 4 or 5 years ago they only charge BHT 500 or 600 for Bar Fine and lady accept for LT of Bhat 2500. But I was surpirise for your feedback yesterday that BF in Pattaya is way high and ST and LT is almost or highier than that in Bankok, is this because Pattaya normally cater tourist?Again, go back and read the previous reports in this forum. Pricing is highly variable, depending on the venue, the girl and the season. If you do your homework you'll be able to ask questions that get an answer, as opposed to questions that invite rebuke.

WRONG: Which is cheaper, Bangkok or Pattaya?

RIGHT: I see that the going rate for a short time session on Soi 6 is 1000 to the girl and 300 to the bar. If I go to one of the bars where the girls do blowjobs only can I get away with paying the former rate of 700 + 300?

You get the idea.

Bunky

[Free Kick]

seriously? what do you really think they are going to do to you? the very worst i have ever experienced is a tug on the arm.assault, physical fights when you reject or ignore them.

robbing your belongings while engaging you in a friendly chat. etc. , etc. ,

the list goes on if anyone can search for.

ladyboy assault in pattaya.

ladyboy steal / theft / robbery in pattaya.

the stories you'll see are actual facts and it happens every week, and on the other hand how many ggs do we see assaulting tourists every week?

still, i don't have anything against their choice of lifestyle.


a cheery 'how's it going, guys?' is usually enough to put them off, and i stroll on unmolested.i hope you are not serious?

calling them 'guys' would be considered extremely sarcastic and could end up in negative consequences especially when they're working so hard to portray themselves as 'gals'. but i guess that was just a figure of speech.

[Free Kick]

Many Pattaya a-GoGos have a sliding bar fine which means that before 12 am, the bar fine would be much higher. Coyote girls have bar fines between (THB 1000 - 1500) and their ST / LT rates are equally terrible (something like THB 2,500 up). So Pattaya aGoGos are generally not that cheap (if you end up picking coyotes).The 'sliding bar fine' point is very true and an important point that I missed. Most of the agogos and even beer bars follow this 'sliding bar fines' in Pattaya. Bangkok and even Phuket.

Good point!

[Free Kick]

1) in Pattaya, is the action area concentrate in Walking street or also in Soi Metro? Last time as time is not allowed me to further adventure other spot, so I only concentrate in Walking street and I have seen so many a go go bars along the street and till the far end, I can see some outdoor open air beer bars wherein the girls around there also can be taken out too.

2) Between Bangkok and Pattaya, in my previous understanding Bankok like in NEP and Soi cowboy tends to have much expensive in terms for ST and LT with flat Bhat 600. While in Pattaya in my last visit way back 4 or 5 years ago they only charge BHT 500 or 600 for Bar Fine and lady accept for LT of Bhat 2500. But I was surpirise for your feedback yesterday that BF in Pattaya is way high and ST and LT is almost or highier than that in Bankok, is this because Pattaya normally cater tourist?

Cheers,

MDIn Pattaya. More action areas would be, Beach Road Sois 6, 7, 8, entire stretch of Soi Buakhao (not just Soi LK Metro and Soi LK which are just two sub-sois), Soi Diana Inn (also a Soi Buakhao sub-soi) and this extremely famous but I forgot the name of this Soi which is full of bars and Massage Parlors, this Soi is right after Soi LK as you go towards the north. May be some one can name this Soi for MD (and me)?

Also the second road end of Sois 2, 3 and 4 (near Big see North Pattaya).

In Bangkok. Soi Nana's freelancers would be the cheapest and you will also find many African women there. Something I forgot to mention earlier.

I think Pattaya has employed many of these high-end girls so-called coyotes which are always a waste unless you are paying even higher prices than the usual agogo girls and the second problem could very well be the introduction of pathetic discos such as Tony's, Insomnia, Mixx which are actually a more modern brothel where girls sell themselves as almost-freelancers but still making money out of the lady drinks (which is understandable) but they are so up their own asses and ask for really crazy prices by giving silly excuses that we don't have to pay a barfine and that she is better quality blah blah blah.

But the biggest drawback is that you don't get to see the girl (completely naked) before you pick her up like you do in agogos.

Discos are nothing but a con.

[Breadman]

Pattaya is dotted with tons of small massage parlour joints, you can't turn a corner without running into three of them. My question is what is the usual extra's being offered and the normal amount of a tip required for said service? I'm not talking the full service joints but the massage places that seem more 'legit' as in real massage tables with curtains or individual rooms. I had one lady quote me 1000 baht for just a HJ which seemed out of place seeing you could get full service for 800 baht from the girls on beach road.

[Mouse1]

assault, physical fights when you reject or ignore them.

robbing your belongings while engaging you in a friendly chat. etc. , etc. ,

the list goes on if anyone can search for.

ladyboy assault in pattaya.

ladyboy steal / theft / robbery in pattaya.

the stories you'll see are actual facts and it happens every week, and on the other hand how many ggs do we see assaulting tourists every week?

still, i don't have anything against their choice of lifestyle.

i hope you are not serious?

calling them 'guys' would be considered extremely sarcastic and could end up in negative consequences especially when they're working so hard to portray themselves as 'gals'. but i guess that was just a figure of speech.i can only say what works for me. i often walk up soi 6/1 at nighttime (often to avoid being spotted by a soi 6 girl i might have promised to visit), and when accosted by the gentlemen of the night a cheery greeting and a high five gets a smile. it's just a recognition that we both know it's all a bit of a game. they are not ogres or trolls and probably occasionally enjoy a laugh. on other occasions i have said slightly more irritably that 'i'm looking for a lady' and i don't think i have offended anyone.

sure you can google 'ladyboy assaults in pattaya' and get results. you can also google 'moon landing was a fake' and get results.

[Mouse1]

Pattaya is dotted with tons of small massage parlour joints, you can't turn a corner without running into three of them. My question is what is the usual extra's being offered and the normal amount of a tip required for said service? I'm not talking the full service joints but the massage places that seem more 'legit' as in real massage tables with curtains or individual rooms. I had one lady quote me 1000 baht for just a HJ which seemed out of place seeing you could get full service for 800 baht from the girls on beach road.I can't answer your question, but remember that just because you can get full service for 500 baht from a beach road girl, that doesn't benchmark the price. Most establishments would pride themselves on charging more than a beach road girl.

[ActionOriented]

Pattaya is dotted with tons of small massage parlour joints, you can't turn a corner without running into three of them. My question is what is the usual extra's being offered and the normal amount of a tip required for said service? I'm not talking the full service joints but the massage places that seem more 'legit' as in real massage tables with curtains or individual rooms. I had one lady quote me 1000 baht for just a HJ which seemed out of place seeing you could get full service for 800 baht from the girls on beach road.Recently I reported about one of these legit massage places, this place was attached to my hotel so I ordered room service. Came in a busty flirty gal, so I asked if there was more on offer. I was quoted THB 700 or 1000 for a HJ (will need to go back to the report and check). I just turned her down laughing, since better value is to be had at one of the smaller massage places all around offering a lot more.

[ActionOriented]

Most establishments would pride themselves on charging more than a beach road girl.Yes, but so much for a HJ? Paying better bucks for a legit massage girl (for FS) may still be OK because she is not a beach road girl, but not for a HJ IMHO.

[Breadman]

Recently I reported about one of these legit massage places, this place was attached to my hotel so I ordered room service. Came in a busty flirty gal, so I asked if there was more on offer. I was quoted THB 700 or 1000 for a HJ (will need to go back to the report and check). I just turned her down laughing, since better value is to be had at one of the smaller massage places all around offering a lot more.It just seems like there's a ton of these massage joints around, some with some decent lookers. Suprised there isn't more written about them, then again maybe experienced hobbiest know to avoid these places. I wouldn't mind a nice hour long massage followed by a BBBJ from a cutie. Maybe its best just to stick with the full service joints for this type of service.

[Pipe Layer99]

Pattaya is dotted with tons of small massage parlour joints, you can't turn a corner without running into three of them. My question is what is the usual extra's being offered and the normal amount of a tip required for said service? I'm not talking the full service joints but the massage places that seem more 'legit' as in real massage tables with curtains or individual rooms. I had one lady quote me 1000 baht for just a HJ which seemed out of place seeing you could get full service for 800 baht from the girls on beach road.I agree with you. That is way over priced for a HJ. She should just do the massage and let you tip afterwards for the good service.

[Pipe Layer99]

I can't answer your question, but remember that just because you can get full service for 500 baht from a beach road girl, that doesn't benchmark the price. Most establishments would pride themselves on charging more than a beach road girl.If HE is only getting a HJ from a massage place there is no reason to overpay.

In any case, if you did want to compare the two, the BR girl would be doing more than just a hand shake. She will do a massage, HJ, BJ, and FS for 700-1000. If the massage girl is just doing a massage and adding a HJ at the end she should get less.

[Mr Enternational]

Pattaya is dotted with tons of small massage parlour joints, you can't turn a corner without running into three of them. My question is what is the usual extra's being offered and the normal amount of a tip required for said service? I'm not talking the full service joints but the massage places that seem more 'legit' as in real massage tables with curtains or individual rooms. I had one lady quote me 1000 baht for just a HJ which seemed out of place seeing you could get full service for 800 baht from the girls on beach road.I reported a few months ago that I was able to bring one home with me. I had to pay 500 for the 2 hour outcall massage and I gave her 500 for FS. Recently, I had her stay the night. She lives upstairs in the shop. She came with me when they closed at midnight and I took her back about noon the next day. I gave her the same 1000 that I give everyone else for all night.

I also have one at my regular massage shop who comes to stay with me that I have never given anything to. We just go on regular dates. I had known her for a couple of years but she always thought I was joking about going out. Finally, one day back in March we went to eat and went to the movies. Then I took her home and got her drunk. She has stayed a few times since then. She said she had not been with a man for a few years since she left her hometown and her boyfriend broke up with her.

Another time I did FS with a girl in a massage parlor on Soi 6. She started at 1000 but I got her down to 500. We had to be quiet because, well, the only thing that separated us from other people was the curtain. After that she would always try to get me to come in when I passed the place.

Yet another time I met one in a massage shop in Nana Plaza mall. She came over after work and spent the night. I gave her the same 1000 that I give everyone else. We stayed in touch for a while.

My first action ever in Thailand was in a massage parlor in Bangkok down an alley across from Nana Hotel. I remember me and my wingman giving the girls 300 extra for HJ. Knowing what I know now, I would not pay more than 200.

Bottom line is probably to flirt with them and see where it leads to. The most recent girl that I talked about first I didn't flirt anything. I was just driving by and saw her out front and stopped and asked how much for a massage at my place. She said 500 for 2 hours. Then I asked how much I had to give her. She said up to me. But I guess you see my pattern now. Regardless of the situation, I give chicks 500 baht for ST and 1000 baht for LT. The exception is Beach Road where I try to talk them down to 400 for ST because I have to pay 100 for the ST room.

[Mogwai]

The exception is Beach Road where I try to talk them down to 400 for ST because I have to pay 100 for the ST room.That's pathetic man. I know you are from the USA but you could as well be Indian.
It's YOU who wants the ST room so give that 100 to the girl.

Oh well, why should I waste my time on a narcist.

[Mouse1]

If HE is only getting a HJ from a massage place there is no reason to overpay.

In any case, if you did want to compare the two, the BR girl would be doing more than just a hand shake. She will do a massage, HJ, BJ, and FS for 700-1000. If the massage girl is just doing a massage and adding a HJ at the end she should get less.Sorry, but you are missing the point. There is no 'should' about it. It's the market. A girl in a classy massage parlour may charge 1000 Bht for a HJ because she can. Her customers may be family guys on holiday who have slipped out for a 'legit' massage while the wife sleeps, or wealthy business men who wouldn't dream of cruising beach road. There is a market for everyone in Pattaya and you just have to find your niche. I would never pay for any kind of sex in a semi-legit massage parlour personally.

[Mogwai]

In Pattaya. More action areas would be, Beach Road Sois 6, 7, 8, Actually it is Second Road Soi 6, 7, 8. Beach Road has no sois officially.
If you ask a moto driver to take you to Beach Road Soi 6 he will be puzzled.

[Mouse1]

That's pathetic man. I know you are from the USA but you could as well be Indian.
It's YOU who wants the ST room so give that 100 to the girl.

Oh well, why should I waste my time on a narcist.All credit to Mr Enternational for his many contributions to the forum. HE is however a Cheap Charlie!

[TomJackin]

All credit to Mr Enternational for his many contributions to the forum. HE is however a Cheap Charlie!Mr. E. may be a Cheap Charlie, but HE provides great information for world wide travelers, such as myself. Central / South America, Asia, and so forth. I have known him for a while and know that his information is correct on all topics.

[Daddy07]

That's pathetic man. I know you are from the USA but you could as well be Indian.
It's YOU who wants the ST room so give that 100 to the girl.

Oh well, why should I waste my time on a narcist.


All credit to Mr Enternational for his many contributions to the forum. HE is however a Cheap Charlie!Now, now gentlemen, let's not be jealous. Anyone familiar with Mr. E's posts knows that his girls are eager to go with him for what HE pays and they keep coming back for more. Obviously, HE turns them on and they're happy to be with him. I would call him frugal; not a cheap Charlie. Believe it or not but girls respect that in a man.

I don't pay my regulars more than 500 baht for ST either and they keep calling me again and again wanting to go see me. I never have to call them. We always have fun while they're with me and they're happy with the money. Remember that 500 Baht for 30 minutes work is good money for them. The fact that they can get more from the suckers makes no difference to me.

Oh, yeah, and HE's right about the small hole in the wall massage joints too. Most of the girls will ask for more but settle on 200 baht for a standard HJ. So why pay more? It's easy money for them.

[Jwdub]

Mr. E. may be a Cheap Charlie, but HE provides great information for world wide travelers, such as myself. Central / South America, Asia, and so forth. I have known him for a while and know that his information is correct on all topics.Another Mr. E fan as well. It's one thing being a 2 week millionaire visiting Pattaya, but when you live here full time it's a different ball game. Mr. E's is one of the few posters I follow regularly as I also live here permanently. Any chance of getting info on a few of the 100 baht ST rooms (I know P.S. Guesthouse) would be appreciated.

[Mouse1]

Now, now gentlemen, let's not be jealous. Anyone familiar with Mr. E's posts knows that his girls are eager to go with him for what HE pays and they keep coming back for more. Obviously, HE turns them on and they're happy to be with him. I would call him frugal; not a cheap Charlie. Believe it or not but girls respect that in a man.

I don't pay my regulars more than 500 baht for ST either and they keep calling me again and again wanting to go see me. I never have to call them. We always have fun while they're with me and they're happy with the money. Remember that 500 Baht for 30 minutes work is good money for them. The fact that they can get more from the suckers makes no difference to me.

Oh, yeah, and HE's right about the small hole in the wall massage joints too. Most of the girls will ask for more but settle on 200 baht for a standard HJ. So why pay more? It's easy money for them.No criticism of Mr E intended. If HE can get away with paying that then that is fine. Others such as myself pay more because we perhaps lack his charm, looks or determination.

[ActionOriented]

Mr. E,

I think you are doing a fantastic job of defining what the market truly is and where the value really lies (including loads of personal charm to which girls do not usually say NO). Too bad others can't figure it out.

Are you fazed by the epithet (and stereotype) some members have applied to you? I think not ;)

[Mr Enternational]

Mr. E,

I think you are doing a fantastic job of defining what the market truly is and where the value really lies (including loads of personal charm to which girls do not usually say NO). Too bad others can't figure it out.

Are you fazed by the epithet (and stereotype) some members have applied to you? I think not ;)LOL. You know me better than that. Remember me licking up the side of that girl's face in Alcatraz? Remember PL99 telling them they were not getting a barfine out of him? What did she do? Gave him her number so she could come over when she was not working. I do this too much to pass out money like some guys do. When you are doing it two weeks / year then you don't have to be so careful how you spend money. But when you are doing it constantly, you would soon go broke paying 700 baht bar fines and unlimited lady drinks and giving girls 2500 or 3000 baht / day. Funny how there are never complaints from the girls and they keep coming back. You saw for yourself that it is hard to beat them off. The girl in Mixx, I had already fucked her friend last month. She told me not to tell her friend that she came with me because she is crazy and would be angry. Then she kept calling me trying to come back everyday.

I could not get my bearings straight a couple of months ago in India because I had not been there in about 8 years, but AO set me on the right path. Thanks for that, man.

[ActionOriented]

LOL. You know me better than that. Remember me licking up the side of that girl's face in Alcatraz? Yes I remember, and to clarify, I was envious. LOL.


Remember PL99 telling them they were not getting a barfine out of him? What did she do? Gave him her number so she could come over when she was not working. I do this too much to pass out money like some guys do. When you are doing it two weeks / year then you don't have to be so careful how you spend money. But when you are doing it constantly, you would soon go broke paying 700 baht bar fines and unlimited lady drinks and giving girls 2500 or 3000 baht / day. Funny how there are never complaints from the girls and they keep coming back. You saw for yourself that it is hard to beat them off. The girl in Mixx, I had already fucked her friend last month. She told me not to tell her friend that she came with me because she is crazy and would be angry. Then she kept calling me trying to come back everyday.The girls go wild and want to get into the sack with you both ASAP was my take away from the evening. You need a bigger stick to beat of the ladies :D

PL99 played around a fair bit with the Alcatraz girl though. I am sure he would never bar fine her, wonder if after trading numbers the girl ended up in his room.


I could not get my bearings straight a couple of months ago in India because I had not been there in about 8 years, but AO set me on the right path. Thanks for that, man.Happy to help, next time instead of Mumbai make a trip to New Delhi, I assure you that it will be a lot more fun!!

[Pipe Layer99]

Sorry, but you are missing the point. There is no 'should' about it. It's the market. A girl in a classy massage parlour may charge 1000 Bht for a HJ because she can. Her customers may be family guys on holiday who have slipped out for a 'legit' massage while the wife sleeps, or wealthy business men who wouldn't dream of cruising beach road. There is a market for everyone in Pattaya and you just have to find your niche. I would never pay for any kind of sex in a semi-legit massage parlour personally.I understood what was written and I disagreed. My opinion is very different for a few reasons. I have my own idea of how much a HJ is worth irregardless of whether its in a legit place, semi-legit, or any other place. If I go get a massage, I only want an actual massage. Only once in Bangkok I did something more. I got a foot massage at a semi-legit place. After that, I took a younger / prettier girl upstairs for an oil massage. I was feeling good and a little horny so I ended up getting FS for 1000. That was one occasion in 14 trips.

But as was stated in the earlier post by Breadman, the girl wanted 1000 baht for a HJ and I presume HE didn't take the offer. IMO 300-500 would be ok. Personally, I would never give 1000 for just a HJ. I think that's too much for a hand shake.

[Wolvenvacht]

I understood what was written and I disagreed. My opinion is very different for a few reasons. I have my own idea of how much a HJ is worth irregardless of whether its in a legit place, semi-legit, or any other place. If I go get a massage, I only want an actual massage. Only once in Bangkok I did something more. I got a foot massage at a semi-legit place. After that, I took a younger / prettier girl upstairs for an oil massage. I was feeling good and a little horny so I ended up getting FS for 1000. That was one occasion in 14 trips.

But as was stated in the earlier post by Breadman, the girl wanted 1000 baht for a HJ and I presume HE didn't take the offer. IMO 300-500 would be ok. Personally, I would never give 1000 for just a HJ. I think that's too much for a hand shake.It is a "willing buyer. Willing seller" market, not a government run economy with fixed prices.

You can think as much as you want about the price of a HJ, unless you find a girl who agrees with your thinking you will be down to shake your own hand. ;)

[Pipe Layer99]

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The girls go wild and want to get into the sack with you both ASAP was my take away from the evening. You need a bigger stick to beat of the ladies :D

PL99 played around a fair bit with the Alcatraz girl though. I am sure he would never bar fine her, wonder if after trading numbers the girl ended up in his room. I haven't gotten around to that girl yet. The regulars are keeping me busy. .

As for bar fines, I don't see any value in paying it. There are just too many girls available. I like to take things slow and look for the ones I like (and the ones willing to come over after work). Sometimes the girls agree to come after work and other times they don't. When they pass on the offer, I just keep going. I know there's going to be another beautiful one along the way.

[Pipe Layer99]

Now, now gentlemen, let's not be jealous. Anyone familiar with Mr. E's posts knows that his girls are eager to go with him for what HE pays and they keep coming back for more. Obviously, HE turns them on and they're happy to be with him. I would call him frugal; not a cheap Charlie. Believe it or not but girls respect that in a man.

I don't pay my regulars more than 500 baht for ST either and they keep calling me again and again wanting to go see me. I never have to call them. We always have fun while they're with me and they're happy with the money. Remember that 500 Baht for 30 minutes work is good money for them. The fact that they can get more from the suckers makes no difference to me.

Oh, yeah, and HE's right about the small hole in the wall massage joints too. Most of the girls will ask for more but settle on 200 baht for a standard HJ. So why pay more? It's easy money for them.I totally agree.
My man Mr. E has his own MO and it works. In the past, I remember paying some bar fines. I did it more often in the first two years. But then after hanging out with him and gaining more experience in Thailand my thoughts on the subject changed. I haven't paid a bar fine in about a year.

[ConquerorVal]

I haven't paid a bar fine in about a year.Do you have to get her phone number surreptitiously, or do you just hand out your card with your number on it. I suspect the establishment / management may have a problem with bypassing the barfine.

[Pipe Layer99]

Do you have to get her phone number surreptitiously, or do you just hand out your card with your number on it. I suspect the establishment / management may have a problem with bypassing the barfine.If I like the girl I just ask for her number. If she says ok, I hand her my phone and let her call. If she says she can not do it then I leave it up to her. I don't want her getting into trouble for that. There have been a couple of times where the girl has gone to the bathroom or changing area and comes back with her number on a piece of paper. On several occasions, I have run into the same girls after work. Some of them that didn't get barfined go out party with friends or they go to the club to find that special man.

[ActionOriented]

I haven't gotten around to that girl yet. The regulars are keeping me busy. .

As for bar fines, I don't see any value in paying it. There are just too many girls available. I like to take things slow and look for the ones I like (and the ones willing to come over after work). Sometimes the girls agree to come after work and other times they don't. When they pass on the offer, I just keep going. I know there's going to be another beautiful one along the way.Ahh, the story with you and your regularsis always exciting. I do hope you will report some new hotties soon (and go check out the massage parlors I told you about, 5 minutes from where you stay, also FS on the premises will cost you between 500-700 baht). On a side note, I am still drooling over the photos of the girl with a bubble butt that you shared.

Your observations re bar fines are spot on. IMHO bar fining is for tourists, not for those who have the patience to play the long game.

[Mouse1]

It is a "willing buyer. Willing seller" market, not a government run economy with fixed prices.

You can think as much as you want about the price of a HJ, unless you find a girl who agrees with your thinking you will be down to shake your own hand. ;)thank you. My point exactly but more succinctly put.

I remember a few years back some newbie on this forum ranting about the price of FS given the high ratio of girls to guys in Pattaya, saying 'Haven't they heard about the Law of Supply and Demand?' LOL.

I sat next to an Indian gentleman on a flight a couple of years back as he bragged about 'getting two escort girls back to his room for 10,000 bht'. But He only wanted a HJ... He thought that was a great deal...

[Pipe Layer99]

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You can think as much as you want about the price of a HJ, unless you find a girl who agrees with your thinking you will be down to shake your own hand. ;)I wouldn't consider a HJ at any price. The input on suggested price was provided to answer another member's question. I can't imagine anyone coming here and not finding a lady to agree with their thinking. :-)

[Margaya]

AO,

I checked your reports but could not find mention of many MPs other than Paradise. In any case which ones would you recommend for noon action?

BTW thanks for detailed reports, its rather rare to see such feedback now a days.


Ahh, the story with you and your regularsis always exciting. I do hope you will report some new hotties soon (and go check out the massage parlors I told you about, 5 minutes from where you stay, also FS on the premises will cost you between 500-700 baht). On a side note, I am still drooling over the photos of the girl with a bubble butt that you shared.

Your observations re bar fines are spot on. IMHO bar fining is for tourists, not for those who have the patience to play the long game.

[ActionOriented]

AO,

I checked your reports but could not find mention of many MPs other than Paradise. In any case which ones would you recommend for noon action?

BTW thanks for detailed reports, its rather rare to see such feedback now a days.Among the naughty massage places, I tried out PP Massage (twice - same girl, she was pretty but a starfish) and Paradise massage (twice, once for FS and once for BJ) on soi Honey. I walked down soi Chaiyapoon which has Aree massage and 5-6 other run down massage parlors all of which are open during the day. But I found Chaiyapoon severely lacking in quality of decent looking girls, IMHO. I passed through this soi on different days at all hours (may twice in one day). The quality on soi Honey was much better and there are 3-4 straight massage shops on this soi one or two are oriented towards LB's (so watch out). So if you are passing through Chaiyapoon, and do not find anything attractive, I suggest keep walking onto 3rd road and you will find Bliss Lounge which although I am yet to try I have heard good things about (its a BJ bar).

FYI, although not massage parlors, but soi 6 bars are open 2pm onwards, so you can ST girls for the same price and a drink on the 6 as well. Just opens up more options for day time action.

[Priamos]

I have a confession: there's one thing I really miss in Pattaya. When I'm in BKK (typically Soi Cowboy) one of my great pleasures is to visit a gogo bar, ogle all the dancers, then barfine a chubby, average looking waitress. There's a commotion in the bar with all the girls wooping and cheering their, supposedly unattractive, sister as she proudly struts into the changing room to fetch her street clothes. In 9 out of 10 cases she puts on a stellar performance in my bed because she's greatly pleased with the way her evening has worked out.

Then there's Pattaya. I've tried this a few times (typically around LK Metro) and the reaction is mostly the same. The mamasan eyes me without favour and says "I cannot spare my waitresses so early in the evening. Come back after midnight!" OK, I guess that the "waitress trade" is well developed in Soi Cowboy and they maintain some extra employees for clients with strange taste (like me), whereas in Pattaya they don't? Still, does anyone know of gogo bars where one can barfine a waitress even early in the evening?

[ActionOriented]

I have a confession: there's one thing I really miss in Pattaya. When I'm in BKK (typically Soi Cowboy) one of my great pleasures is to visit a gogo bar, ogle all the dancers, then barfine a chubby, average looking waitress. There's a commotion in the bar with all the girls wooping and cheering their, supposedly unattractive, sister as she proudly struts into the changing room to fetch her street clothes. In 9 out of 10 cases she puts on a stellar performance in my bed because she's greatly pleased with the way her evening has worked out.

Then there's Pattaya. I've tried this a few times (typically around LK Metro) and the reaction is mostly the same. The mamasan eyes me without favour and says "I cannot spare my waitresses so early in the evening. Come back after midnight!" OK, I guess that the "waitress trade" is well developed in Soi Cowboy and they maintain some extra employees for clients with strange taste (like me), whereas in Pattaya they don't? Still, does anyone know of gogo bars where one can barfine a waitress even early in the evening?I have wondered the same in relation to cashiers and waitresses in discos but apparently the scene for them both in Bangkok and Pattaya remain the same, they are like FL's / normal girls, it's up to them whether they want to go with you.

But I do know that waitresses in some a Go-Gos are bar finable. I was meeting up with a friend in Pattaya and he had been staying there for a while, there was a girl along with him (similar to the description you gave) and my friend introduced her as a waitress working at Babydolls a-GoGo (on walking street), since he had bar fined her the previous night she had spent the last night with him and since the next day was her day off, she spent the entire day with my friend (which is when we met her). In fact this waitress was so cool, she accompanied a group of 3 guys on a Go-Go hop (in LK metro) and bar crawl (on soi 6). After a couple of days, we landed up at Babydolls and I found her working there and she took care of the bins and the girls near out table. So some of the waitresses are indeed available for take out, you just need to look for them or wait it out.

[Shansawy]

I have a confession: there's one thing I really miss in Pattaya. When I'm in BKK (typically Soi Cowboy) one of my great pleasures is to visit a gogo bar, ogle all the dancers, then barfine a chubby, average looking waitress. There's a commotion in the bar with all the girls wooping and cheering their, supposedly unattractive, sister as she proudly struts into the changing room to fetch her street clothes. In 9 out of 10 cases she puts on a stellar performance in my bed because she's greatly pleased with the way her evening has worked out.

Then there's Pattaya. I've tried this a few times (typically around LK Metro) and the reaction is mostly the same. The mamasan eyes me without favour and says "I cannot spare my waitresses so early in the evening. Come back after midnight!" OK, I guess that the "waitress trade" is well developed in Soi Cowboy and they maintain some extra employees for clients with strange taste (like me), whereas in Pattaya they don't? Still, does anyone know of gogo bars where one can barfine a waitress even early in the evening?It is good to know that I am not alone in that game, I have done that a couple times but never told anyone about it.

And you are right these girls are top performance and if their English is good enough listen to their stories about what happen in the bar and you will get be amazed.

[NuMonger]

AO,

I checked your reports but could not find mention of many MPs other than Paradise. In any case which ones would you recommend for noon action?

BTW thanks for detailed reports, its rather rare to see such feedback now a days.M,

One of the oldest soapies is Sabai dee, opp BigC on 2nd road. Honey is adjacent, which has had good reviews. They open by 12 noon, but warms up only around 3 pm.

Then there is the rasputin, betwn soi 5' and 6, which is more luxurious and expensive, though the better ones trickle in only by 5 pm. 2500 bt to 5000 bht.

Then there is always the double action Devils Den, near LK. 3800 bht will get you PSE for an HR with two Wgs, even in afternoons, you can out call also.

All the best.

NM.

[Toumai]

AO,

I checked your reports but could not find mention of many MPs other than Paradise. In any case which ones would you recommend for noon action?

BTW thanks for detailed reports, its rather rare to see such feedback now a days.The names of the numerous MPs dotted along the whole stretch of Soi Honey is really immaterial. You just need to saunter the whole Soi, and double back if you want, and see what's, or rather who's out there sitting in the shop verandas. Most will be beckoning you wildly, trust me. So just pick any one you fancy. It's really the luck of the draw for that particular moment you passed by that particular MP. The puying of your dreams may have just started her shift, or finished a ST, and may has just come out to the shop balcony for her next custom. As you passed by. LOL.

[ActionOriented]

M,

One of the oldest soapies is Sabai dee, opp BigC on 2nd road. Honey is adjacent, which has had good reviews. They open by 12 noon, but warms up only around 3 pm.

Then there is the rasputin, betwn soi 5' and 6, which is more luxurious and expensive, though the better ones trickle in only by 5 pm. 2500 bt to 5000 bht.

Then there is always the double action Devils Den, near LK. 3800 bht will get you PSE for an HR with two Wgs, even in afternoons, you can out call also.

All the best.

NM.That's not surprising, but the soapies in Pattaya have had varied reviews and not many of them nice (esp Rasputin has the worst reviews). While the Sabai Dee's, Rasputin, Honey (1 & 2) are all easily found and are much more upscale establishments (in terms of infrastructure and price), the quality is something which leaves a lot to be desired. Several patrons complain about the fishbowls at these places where as in Bangkok, the quality of the girls on offer is hardly disputed. In terms of service, I think Bangkok and Pattaya soapies may not be that far apart. No harm in trying out these soapies, its worth an experience.

I personally do not see much value in spending 3800 baht in Devil's Den (a newer avatar of Eden) for two girls. If I wanted PSE in a MP, I would prefer to enjoy that in Bangkok. If I still crave some more, I found a place in my last visit which fits the bill and I have reported about it.

The massage places on soi Honey and soi Chaiyapoon will service you at less than half the cost of the soapies mentioned above. The disclaimer being that the places will be dirty and do not go in expecting the typical grandeur of a soapy (and goes without saying other people can hear you do the deed). :)

[Travelin Dog]

Back in Patts for another getaway. I was disappointed to see the X Zone has closed up shop (but they were open in July).

I like the raunchiness of that place. Anybody know of any suitable replacements?

On the plus side, BR continues to thrive, and the police don't seem to have made much difference. Yesterday I saw a couple of cops walking down the sidewalk of BR with a megaphone saying something, but the girls didn't bother to move.

I love Thailand.

Happy mongering.

[Margaya]

The names of the numerous MPs dotted along the whole stretch of Soi Honey is really immaterial. You just need to saunter the whole Soi, and double back if you want, and see what's, or rather who's out there sitting in the shop verandas. Most will be beckoning you wildly, trust me. So just pick any one you fancy. It's really the luck of the draw for that particular moment you passed by that particular MP. The puying of your dreams may have just started her shift, or finished a ST, and may has just come out to the shop balcony for her next custom. As you passed by. LOL.Very true, sometimes one does hit a diamond in the rough.


M,

One of the oldest soapies is Sabai dee, opp BigC on 2nd road. Honey is adjacent, which has had good reviews. They open by 12 noon, but warms up only around 3 pm.

Then there is the rasputin, betwn soi 5' and 6, which is more luxurious and expensive, though the better ones trickle in only by 5 pm. 2500 bt to 5000 bht.

Then there is always the double action Devils Den, near LK. 3800 bht will get you PSE for an HR with two Wgs, even in afternoons, you can out call also.

All the best.

NM.Thanks NM. I did read up about the famous ones such as sabai dee etc but will spend my money in Bangkok which I think offers superior quality.


Among the naughty massage places, I tried out PP Massage (twice - same girl, she was pretty but a starfish) and Paradise massage (twice, once for FS and once for BJ) on soi Honey. I walked down soi Chaiyapoon which has Aree massage and 5-6 other run down massage parlors all of which are open during the day. But I found Chaiyapoon severely lacking in quality of decent looking girls, IMHO. I passed through this soi on different days at all hours (may twice in one day). The quality on soi Honey was much better and there are 3-4 straight massage shops on this soi one or two are oriented towards LB's (so watch out). So if you are passing through Chaiyapoon, and do not find anything attractive, I suggest keep walking onto 3rd road and you will find Bliss Lounge which although I am yet to try I have heard good things about (its a BJ bar).

FYI, although not massage parlors, but soi 6 bars are open 2pm onwards, so you can ST girls for the same price and a drink on the 6 as well. Just opens up more options for day time action.Cool. Thanks a bunch.

[Reiner Otto]

The massage places on soi Honey and soi Chaiyapoon will service you at less than half the cost of the soapies mentioned above. Just a warning: Two days ago, I wanted to check the quality of a BJ from a Ladyboy. Just opposite the end of Soi Honey on Soi Bukanoe, there are two massagesalons, operated by Ladyboys. I visited the left one, as a very good looking LB was standing in front, and we agreed on 1100 BHT.

When the job was finished, and I payed already, I was asked, if to use a shower, as the interior of the massage spot only consisted out of small compartments with a mattress, separated by curtains. A bit wondering, I agreed, and got directed to the toilette, with some shower installation. Which I did not use, just washed my best part, which took a few minutes only.

About 3 h after leaving the massage spot, I noticed, that I was missing several thousand BHT, as I exchanged some $ just before visiting the LB.

Theoretically, the money might have been pickpocketed everywhere, but most likely, during the time, I visited the "shower", leaving my trousers with the money in the massage cabinet, the LB took the opportunity, as he / she knew, where the $ were, because of paying the 1100 BHt just before out of the pockets of my trousers.

So, be prepared, guys.

[Pipe Layer99]

Back in Patts for another getaway. I was disappointed to see the X Zone has closed up shop (but they were open in July).
I like the raunchiness of that place. Anybody know of any suitable replacements?
Angel witch and Windmill.

[Pipe Layer99]

Just a warning: ... When the job was finished, and I payed already, I was asked, if to use a shower... Which I did not use, just washed my best part, which took a few minutes only. About 3 h after leaving the massage spot, I noticed, that I was missing several thousand BHT ... So, be prepared, guys.That sucks. Sorry that happened to you.

I would recommend that a guy 'never' leaves his pants / shorts unattended. This goes for everywhere (Rio, CR, Thailand, etc). I usually taken my shorts with me to the shower or to the bathroom. Even when I am with a new lady in my hotel room. I don't leave my shorts with a decent amount cash alone with the girl. Lets say you just arrived to the room with your new date and it's time to hit the showers. I either let her shower first and I lock up my extra cash or we shower together.

I just remembered another thing. About a year ago, as I was walking down the street, a lady boy was getting in the way up ahead. There was also another guy who happened to be going in the same direction. As we got closer, I started to move away to prevent the lady boy from getting too close. I prefer to keep at least 3 to 6 feet of distance away. After we passed the lady boy, I told the guy I don't want them too close to me because they might try to pickpocket you. He said that same thing had just happened to him. I told him, no, always distance yourself. Don't let them touch you, or fondle you. If they get that close, one hand will distract you while the other hand goes in your pocket. This applies to all genders (lady boys, girls on beach road, and strangers on the bus).

[TomSf]

Just a warning: Two days ago, I wanted to check the quality of a BJ from a Ladyboy. Just opposite the end of Soi Honey on Soi Bukanoe, there are two massagesalons, operated by Ladyboys. I visited the left one, as a very good looking LB was standing in front, and we agreed on 1100 BHT.

When the job was finished, and I payed already, I was asked, if to use a shower, as the interior of the massage spot only consisted out of small compartments with a mattress, separated by curtains. A bit wondering, I agreed, and got directed to the toilette, with some shower installation. Which I did not use, just washed my best part, which took a few minutes only.

About 3 h after leaving the massage spot, I noticed, that I was missing several thousand BHT, as I exchanged some $ just before visiting the LB.

Theoretically, the money might have been pickpocketed everywhere, but most likely, during the time, I visited the "shower", leaving my trousers with the money in the massage cabinet, the LB took the opportunity, as he / she knew, where the $ were, because of paying the 1100 BHt just before out of the pockets of my trousers.

So, be prepared, guys.Reiner,

I will be in Pattaya next week. What you are telling people is not a warning. This is just common sense and basic street smarts. A few thousand baut is a small price to pay. He could have taken your credit cards.

[LittleBigMan]

That sucks. Sorry that happened to you.

I would recommend that a guy 'never' leaves his pants / shorts unattended. This goes for everywhere (Rio, CR, Thailand, etc). I usually taken my shorts with me to the shower or to the bathroom. Even when I am with a new lady in my hotel room. I don't leave my shorts with a decent amount cash alone with the girl. Lets say you just arrived to the room with your new date and it's time to hit the showers. I either let her shower first and I lock up my extra cash or we shower together.

I just remembered another thing. About a year ago, as I was walking down the street, a lady boy was getting in the way up ahead. There was also another guy who happened to be going in the same direction. As we got closer, I started to move away to prevent the lady boy from getting too close. I prefer to keep at least 3 to 6 feet of distance away. After we passed the lady boy, I told the guy I don't want them too close to me because they might try to pickpocket you. He said that same thing had just happened to him. I told him, no, always distance yourself. Don't let them touch you, or fondle you. If they get that close, one hand will distract you while the other hand goes in your pocket. This applies to all genders (lady boys, girls on beach road, and strangers on the bus).I guess you and everyone else need to add LB in massage salons too! If you are into that kind of stuff I guess also in his situation not only did the LB got close HE got him to take his pants off too! OUCH!

[ActionOriented]

Just a warning: Two days ago, I wanted to check the quality of a BJ from a Ladyboy. Just opposite the end of Soi Honey on Soi Bukanoe, there are two massagesalons, operated by Ladyboys. I visited the left one, as a very good looking LB was standing in front, and we agreed on 1100 BHT.

When the job was finished, and I payed already, I was asked, if to use a shower, as the interior of the massage spot only consisted out of small compartments with a mattress, separated by curtains. A bit wondering, I agreed, and got directed to the toilette, with some shower installation. Which I did not use, just washed my best part, which took a few minutes only.

About 3 h after leaving the massage spot, I noticed, that I was missing several thousand BHT, as I exchanged some $ just before visiting the LB.

Theoretically, the money might have been pickpocketed everywhere, but most likely, during the time, I visited the "shower", leaving my trousers with the money in the massage cabinet, the LB took the opportunity, as he / she knew, where the $ were, because of paying the 1100 BHt just before out of the pockets of my trousers.

So, be prepared, guys.Thanks for the warning. But I think when you walk down soi Honey, right at the head next to Fantasy Lounge is a massage parlor which is run by LB's and then while you walk down soi Honey after crossing PP massage, on your right will be another shop which is staffed with LB's. These particular LB's are scary and have muscles which would intimidate me. So distinguishing the shops with LBs as opposed to those with not, is relatively easy in the daylight hours. As pointed out by PL99, whilst in Pattaya one always needs to be alert in the presence or vicinity of LB's. I would think that they keep a leash on their temptation to steal from customers in a massage shop, but that clearly is not the case. It's better to be careful of them in general, I guess.

Although I think your pocket got picked in the massage shop, because if it had to happen anywhere else you would not have found your wallet (assuming you kept it in your wallet / cash holder). In this case your wallet was with you, only the several thousand baht which you had just converted prior to your visit was missing. Would it make sense in informing management of the massage shop re the thieving LB? Or are they so hand in glove with the whole thing that they won't care?

[Reiner Otto]

only the several thousand baht which you had just converted prior to your visit was missing. Would it make sense in informing management of the massage shop re the thieving LB? Or are they so hand in glove with the whole thing that they won't care?It was just a very small massage spot, (you directly hit it when crossing Soi Bukonow at end of Soi Honey) I only saw 2 LBs working there. And I definitely have no proof, that exactly it was the LB, who picked the $$ only "strong evidence". So I considered it a lesson, to be payed for, and moved on, not wasting time during my last days.

As there was very often in my past the same chance for a regular girl to pick my money, which never happened in Pattaya, I considered it worthwile here to post the (almost) first-time affair with a LB and a bad experience. (Although a good trick, offering the "shower" only after finding out, where I had my money for paying).

[Jp Slicky]

Never have anymore than you can afford to loose on you, the rest stays in the safe.

[Otari]

I'll be visiting first Bangkok and Pattaya and wonder if the exchange rates for Euro are the pretty much the same or is it a difference?

I would like to buy as well some Kamagra / Viagra / Cialis in legitimate pharmacies, as I'm afraid of fake products. Is the product quality the same in Bangkok and Pattaya and are prices similar or not?

[Pipe Layer99]

I'll be visiting first Bangkok and Pattaya and wonder if the exchange rates for Euro are the pretty much the same or is it a difference?

I would like to buy as well some Kamagra / Viagra / Cialis in legitimate pharmacies, as I'm afraid of fake products. Is the product quality the same in Bangkok and Pattaya and are prices similar or not?Exchange rates change daily. You have to walk to a few places and check. Don't worry, they are everywhere.
In Bangkok, I like the exchange place on Soi 3 (opposite Nana Plaza. Assuming you are near that area). From soi 4, cross over Sukhumvit to get to soi 3. Its a small place about 50 m up the road on the left side. The other place I prefer is right at the corner of Soi 7/1. Both places had the best rates.
For kamagra in Bangkok, I can suggest this pharmacy. From soi 4 and Sukhumvit, go left on Sukhumvit and its after the gas station on the left side. The man there was straight and his prices were good. Prices vary from place to place.

If you want info on a pharmacy in Pattaya, you can send me a pm after you get here.

For general questions, consider the general reports thread.

[FreebieFan]

I'll be visiting first Bangkok and Pattaya and wonder if the exchange rates for Euro are the pretty much the same or is it a difference?

I would like to buy as well some Kamagra / Viagra / Cialis in legitimate pharmacies, as I'm afraid of fake products. Is the product quality the same in Bangkok and Pattaya and are prices similar or not?For Kamagra, the pharmacy next to Bully's pub. Been going there for years. The guy won't negotitiate much but the product is fine.

[Travelin Dog]

Angel witch and Windmill.Thanks.

Windmill is on my regular route, but I will give Angel Witch a try tonight.

Cheers

[Wolvenvacht]

I'll be visiting first Bangkok and Pattaya and wonder if the exchange rates for Euro are the pretty much the same or is it a difference?

I would like to buy as well some Kamagra / Viagra / Cialis in legitimate pharmacies, as I'm afraid of fake products. Is the product quality the same in Bangkok and Pattaya and are prices similar or not?To give you a pricing indication, a few days ago I bought some Thai Viagra "100 mg", 10 pills in a bottle for 1000 baht at the little pharmacy next to the Nana Hotel parking lot. I have been buying original Vitamin V, Kamagra-jelly or Thai Viagra there for years now and always got good quality.

[LittleBigMan]

To give you a pricing indication, a few days ago I bought some Thai Viagra "100 mg", 10 pills in a bottle for 1000 baht at the little pharmacy next to the Nana Hotel parking lot. I have been buying original Vitamin V, Kamagra-jelly or Thai Viagra there for years now and always got good quality.When in Bangkok I use the Pharmacy next to the Majestic Suites never had a problem with any of the products mentioned. I usually get the Cia Gel and Kamagra gel. 100 MG. Can't remember what I paid for see. But Kamagra it was 75 Baht since I only got 2 packs. Here is Pattaya I got a price for Kamagra G. Next to the old Fun house for 65 Baht a pack.

[Pipe Layer99]

When in Bangkok I use the Pharmacy next to the Majestic Suites never had a problem with any of the products mentioned. I usually get the Cia Gel and Kamagra gel. 100 MG. Can't remember what I paid for see. But Kamagra it was 75 Baht since I only got 2 packs. Here is Pattaya I got a price for Kamagra G. Next to the old Fun house for 65 Baht a pack.That's the place I use in Pattaya. I have been going there for only about a year. The staff there very helpful. A few weeks ago, I took 2 buddies in there to get some things and the staff remembered me. The following week I went in to get something. They game me about a 100 baht discount.

[Pipe Layer99]

It's been raining a lot over the past few days but the ladies are still plentiful. The other night I decided to head out very late. I went to some places on walking street where the FLs go. Many lovely ladies to choose from. I spoke to one sexy girl right after I ordered my first beer. She passed all the pre-qual questions with flying colors and I was thinking 'I should just take her'. However, since I had just arrived, I wanted to have a look around. I usually do not take the first girl I meet (at least not right away). This one was very nice, spoke well, and she had no obligations the next day which is important to me because I like to sleep in. I told her I just got there and I want to walk around a bit. She offered to come with me (smart girl). I politely declined. I sensed that she liked me or at least she didn't want to lose out if I found another girl. So off I went to look around. Had another beer or two or three and talked to a few other ladies that I thought looked good. I don't know where the time went but an hour or two had passed. I realized that I better go get my girl if I want her. Otherwise another lucky dude would grab her or she might leave. I went to get her and she was happy. Her friends seemed to be entertained with other guys (but not the one I liked). I took her away from the table and we moved to the other end of the bar / club. Now its a done deal and wouldn't you know all of a sudden I see more girls that I liked. I didn't see those honeys earlier. There is a sexy PYT (pretty young thing) to my left making discreet glances at me. I don't remember exactly how I did it, but I told the PTY that I was busy tonight and I want to see her tomorrow. Maybe it was during some small talk since we were now sharing a little table with her. Anyway, right before we left, I opened my phone and passed it under my arm to the PYT. She turned her back, entered her #, and held the phone off to her side. I took it, called the number, hung up, and inconspicuously put it in my pocket. Off we go.

We go back to my place. Shower up and have a great time. She came about 4 times (damn she was horny). Then we slept. I kinda woke her up two hours later for round two. I say kinda because she was on her side sleeping so I just did her from the side. I finished and she kept on sleeping. I showered and went back to sleep. I think I got up after 2 pm and I wanted round three. I kissed her softly to wake her up and we went at it. She climbed on top and rode me good. She was going to cum and feeling her building up made me cum too. We finished at the same time. I tried to hold back because I wanted to get on top and enjoy it a little longer but I couldn't. Man she was good. We showered up, I made some coffee for us to enjoy, and we talked for awhile. She gave me her number and we also added our info to one of the free apps to talk later. I gave her some baht and told her I had some things to do. It was already after 5 pm.

The girl who passed me her number the night before had sent me a text earlier. She wanted to see me. But I was too tired (don't know why, wink). I told her I might come later or maybe tomorrow. She texted me again later and I called back so we can talk. I told her if I go there, I am only going for a beer and to say hello. I asked her what time she finishes work. She said 2 am. I said, ok if I want to take you to my room, it will be after work (this means no bar fine). She agreed. Since I did not go see her at her bar, she texted me again at 11.30 pm asking if I was going to come. I said no I'm relaxing now. Then about 1. 30 am another text asking if I was going to the bar / club again. Man she was trying to work me (or maybe rent is coming up soon? LOL). I declined and said not tonight. I needed a night off. And then following day was one of my regular's birthday so I spent the evening with her. Finally today I can go see the PYT.

[Crocodilexp]

I would like to buy as well some Kamagra / Viagra / Cialis in legitimate pharmacies, as I'm afraid of fake products. Is the product quality the same in Bangkok and Pattaya and are prices similar or not?Ask for Sidegra, it's a Thai-made generic Sildenafil Citrate (same active ingredient as Viagra / Kamagra). The 4 x100 MG is 180 baht and 4 x50 MG is 100 baht. At that price point, there are no fakes, not much profit in that. Kamagra is good and cheap, but can be inconsistent in quality (even the packaging is inconsistent). The real thing (brand name Viagra / Cialis) may well be a good fake given the huge profit in passing off an expensive pill.

[Otari]

I would like to buy as well some Kamagra / Viagra / Cialis in legitimate pharmacies, as I'm afraid of fake products. Is the product quality the same in Bangkok and Pattaya and are prices similar or not?Thank you very much for all your info about legitimate pharmacies selling products containing Sildenafil. It seems that most of you are buying such products in Bangkok and not in Pattaya. I got several tips for Bangkok, but for Pattaya I got only one recommendation (pharmacy close to Fun house). Does it mean that pharmacies are more reliable in Bangkok than in Pattaya?

My plan was to go form Suvarnabhumi airport directly to Pattaya then to Koh Samui, Hua Hin and finish in Bangkok before departure. For this trip I will need an important stock of good quality performance enhancing products. Would you advice to buy it in Bangkok? I'm flexible and in this case I could start with Bangkok, buy supply and that continue to Pattaya.

[Otari]

Ask for Sidegra, it's a Thai-made generic Sildenafil Citrate (same active ingredient as Viagra / Kamagra). The 4 x100 MG is 180 baht and 4 x50 MG is 100 baht. At that price point, there are no fakes, not much profit in that. Kamagra is good and cheap, but can be inconsistent in quality (even the packaging is inconsistent). The real thing (brand name Viagra / Cialis) may well be a good fake given the huge profit in passing off an expensive pill.Thanks Crocodilexp. I didn't know about Sidegr. Is it the same as 'Thai Viagra'?

Do you have any tips how to find out form Kamagra packaging (for example a hologram on the packaging) if this is fake product or not?

[AfAsia]

Heads up for those traveling towards Pattaya on motorway 7, Chonburi motorway, from BKK. Avoid at all cost. I believe there is an alternate route, find out and make use of the alternate. Couple of weeks back myself and wingman endured 4 hrs of frustration due to roadworks which look to have no end in sight. Perhaps this has been mentioned before, this report serves as a reminder.

I think it is route 3 you want to travel?

[RumBuddy]

To give you a pricing indication, a few days ago I bought some Thai Viagra "100 mg", 10 pills in a bottle for 1000 baht at the little pharmacy next to the Nana Hotel parking lot. I have been buying original Vitamin V, Kamagra-jelly or Thai Viagra there for years now and always got good quality.After reading these, it made me wonder. Is there a problem bring your own into the country?

[Mr Enternational]

Heads up for those traveling towards Pattaya on motorway 7, Chonburi motorway, from BKK. Avoid at all cost. I believe there is an alternate route, find out and make use of the alternate. Couple of weeks back myself and wingman endured 4 hrs of frustration due to roadworks which look to have no end in sight. Perhaps this has been mentioned before, this report serves as a reminder.

I think it is route 3 you want to travel?Only problem is that if a Thai person is driving you they won't know what the hell you are talking about regarding the route numbers. My ex girlfriend has a condo on Pratumnak hill and there is a restaurant on the building's rooftop. They have one of the most spectacular views of the city. One night we were there and I saw the overpass lit up in the distance and asked if that was 7. Now she has a car and her friend who is a doctor was with us as well. They had no idea what I was talking about. When I finally got her to understand, she explained to me that Thai people don't know the highway numbers.

[Pipe Layer99]

Thank you very much ... You have to clear some messages from your pm inbox. You can't receive because you are full.

[Jgm005]

After reading these, it made me wonder. Is there a problem bring your own into the country?No problem what so ever. Least for me I have never had a problem.

[Otari]

You have to clear some messages from your pm inbox. You can't receive because you are full.Sorry for this. Done.

[LittleBigMan]

After reading these, it made me wonder. Is there a problem bring your own into the country?If one has the stuff bring your own? But in my opinion and experience of buying here I have never had a second thought about just going in any pharmacy and asking if you have so and so and if they do I buy never a hesitation unless the price is so out of line. As a rule of thumb just do not buy on the street from the vendors and you will be okay.

[ActionOriented]

After reading these, it made me wonder. Is there a problem bring your own into the country?I have never had a problem in bringing these generics into thailand. Also, it's available for cheaper back in India, so why waste the extra baht. However, if the generics are more expensive in your home country than Thailamd, it would make more sense to buy locally in Thailand at one of the stores recommended by other board members.

[ActionOriented]

Finally today I can go see the PYT.How did that episode end?

[Fast Eddie 48]

I was in pattaya check out soi 6 Perry bar have the best looking girl spot TUK she is the hottest girl at soi 6 by far, she told me she only work 3 days a week have a aussie boyfriend hot body she want 4000 for LT 1300 inhouse will not budge no DATY only offer CBJ english is very good, she is from Chataburi 3 HR south of Pattaya it is low season now rain almost everyday many bar is empty.

Fast eddie 48.

[Pipe Layer99]

How did that episode end?Didn't I tell you. LOL.

[Reiner Otto]

I wanted to check the quality of a BJ from a Ladyboy. Just opposite the end of Soi Honey on Soi Bukanoe, there are two massagesalons, operated by Ladyboys. I visited the left one, as a very good looking LB was standing in front, and we agreed on 1100 BHT.
Addition: Uncovered BJ from LB was on par to BJ from experieneced female provider.