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LuvAsianTang
10-27-14, 05:52
i can only say what works for me. i often walk up soi 6/1 at nighttime (often to avoid being spotted by a soi 6 girl i might have promised to visit), and when accosted by the gentlemen of the night a cheery greeting and a high five gets a smile. it's just a recognition that we both know it's all a bit of a game. they are not ogres or trolls and probably occasionally enjoy a laugh. on other occasions i have said slightly more irritably that 'i'm looking for a lady' and i don't think i have offended anyone.
sure you can google 'ladyboy assaults in pattaya' and get results. you can also google 'moon landing was a fake' and get results.Now where I usually agree with you mouse, and prior to my very bad experience with lady boys, I've had no problems. But, there is always the possibility of smelly things hitting the proverbial fan.
A brief synopses of my bed experience: I was in a bar on soi 6 or 7 that was mixed ladyboys and real yummy girls. A ladyboy reached around and grabbed my dick and squeezed hard enough to hurt me. I must have looked pissed off because she came unglued and started to yell " what the fuck is your problem" over and over. I decided to leave and paid my tab and said bye to the hot little pooying I was ready to barfine. Upon arriving at my motorbike much to my chagrin, there sat the ladyboy repeating her " what the fuck " line. She got off my bike and hit me over the head with a five pound wooden high heal, but not before I had dawned my helmet, and inserted the key in the ignition, which later saved me from a real ass whooping.
Now the fight was on, as I was throwing throat punches elbows to the head and running front kicks to her mussy (man pussy). Now mind you this mitch (man b**ch) was a good head taller and 40 years younger then me, but old age and treachery once again over came youth and inexperience, and I won the battle but not the war. Her allies started to come from all corners wielding folding wooden chairs and tables, and now I was literally fighting off 4 more ladyboys for my life. Things seemed to be happening in slow motion as I was dredging up fighting skills that had been long forgotten from my more formidable youth, and finally the war was won. I managed to start the bike and speed away from further harm but as I did another 5 pound high heal hit me squarely between my shoulder blades. I did sustain some minor injuries including scratches, and splinters from wooden chairs that had been demolished by my helmet and a few well placed blocks and kicks but luckily nothing serious. It could have been another front page story of the early demise of yet another farrang in pattaya.
I now steer clear of the lady boys as much as possible in a city where they seem to be collecting like flies on hong nam. Now when I walk by them I just look straight forward with a smile and look for girls.
So as to you question " seriously? what do you really think they are going to do to you? the very worst i have ever experienced is a tug on the arm." I guess my answer would be " more than you expect".
Happy pooning and be careful out there it can be a real zoo. LAT.
Mr Enternational
10-27-14, 06:13
Now the fight was on, as I was throwing throat punches elbows to the head and running front kicks to her mussy (man pussy). Now mind you this mitch (man b**ch) was a good head taller and 40 years younger then me, but old age and treachery once again over came youth and inexperience, and I won the battle but not the war. Her allies started to come from all corners wielding folding wooden chairs and tables, and now I was literally fighting off 4 more ladyboys for my life. LOL. Video?
Took a few days on my trip to Thailand and Pattaya has lived up to what I wanted.
Pipe Layer99
10-27-14, 14:37
Now where I usually agree with you mouse, and prior to my very bad experience with lady boys, I've had no problems. But, there is always the possibility of smelly things hitting the proverbial fan....
A brief synopses of my bed experience: I was in a bar on soi 6 or 7 that was mixed ladyboys and real yummy girls. A ladyboy reached around and grabbed my dick and squeezed hard enough to hurt me. I must have looked pissed off because she came unglued and started to yell " what the fuck is your problem" over and over. I decided to leave and paid my tab and said bye to the hot little pooying I was ready to barfine....
I now steer clear of the lady boys as much as possible in a city where they seem to be collecting like flies on hong nam. Now when I walk by them I just look straight forward with a smile and look for girls.
So as to you question " seriously? what do you really think they are going to do to you? the very worst i have ever experienced is a tug on the arm." I guess my answer would be " more than you expect".
Happy pooning and be careful out there it can be a real zoo. LAT.That's a good reason to stay away from the places that have LBs mixed in with the girls. They don't know how to stay away even when you are clearly not interested and busy getting to know the sweet girl working there.
PaulRob6366
10-27-14, 14:59
Actually it is Second Road Soi 6, 7, 8. Beach Road has no sois officially.
If you ask a moto driver to take you to Beach Road Soi 6 he will be puzzled.I too am puzzled by this as there are the famous Soi running from 2nd Road in a Westerly direction (to and from Beach Road) and also also many alleys running in an Easterly direction off 2nd Road towards 3rd road / Soi BuaKhao etc.
Crocodilexp
10-27-14, 16:33
Do you have any tips how to find out form Kamagra packaging (for example a hologram on the packaging) if this is fake product or not?No. Actually, some years ago I tried to figure it out with the Kamagra jelly (by trial and error), but couldn't. I'm still not sure whether Kamagra fakes are around (seems unlikely given the low price, 60 baht per 100 MG jelly pack), or their production process just sucks. I was buying from 2 pharmacies in Bangkok, not the street, and it's even inconsistent at the same vendor. Sidegra (the Thai product) does not seem to have these problems, always works with roughly the same intensity.
Awesome Man
10-27-14, 18:04
Has any member been on board one of these Pattaya Booze Cruises? It seems a lot of fun at a reasonable price? I guess that some private time with one of the ladies aboard cost extra, but how much? Is there privacy provided?
Has any member been on board one of these Pattaya Booze Cruises? It seems a lot of fun at a reasonable price? I guess that some private time with one of the ladies aboard cost extra, but how much? Is there privacy provided?You asking about this?
http://www.pattayaboozecruise.com/Home/welcome.html
2000 baht for 4 hrs cruise to nowhere, food, and drink included. From looking at their Facebook pics, farang couples partake. After party continues at a GoGo. Youtube vid of pics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIaSZMkGP0A.
LuvAsianTang
10-27-14, 21:05
LOL. Video?I wish I had footage of that experience, just so I could see where they all came from. I should have checked you tube the following days, perhaps someone may have immortalized it.
LAT.
Now where I usually agree with you mouse, and prior to my very bad experience with lady boys, I've had no problems. But, there is always the possibility of smelly things hitting the proverbial fan.
A brief synopses of my bed experience: I was in a bar on soi 6 or 7 that was mixed ladyboys and real yummy girls. A ladyboy reached around and grabbed my dick and squeezed hard enough to hurt me. I must have looked pissed off because she came unglued and started to yell " what the fuck is your problem" over and over. I decided to leave and paid my tab and said bye to the hot little pooying I was ready to barfine. Upon arriving at my motorbike much to my chagrin, there sat the ladyboy repeating her " what the fuck " line. She got off my bike and hit me over the head with a five pound wooden high heal, but not before I had dawned my helmet, and inserted the key in the ignition, which later saved me from a real ass whooping.
Now the fight was on, as I was throwing throat punches elbows to the head and running front kicks to her mussy (man pussy). Now mind you this mitch (man b**ch) was a good head taller and 40 years younger then me, but old age and treachery once again over came youth and inexperience, and I won the battle but not the war. Her allies started to come from all corners wielding folding wooden chairs and tables, and now I was literally fighting off 4 more ladyboys for my life..Loveasian,
The ladyboy boys in Thailand have a mental disorder. If you act like you are not into men they will only go after you harder. I always just smile and say no thank you. The mean looks don't work. The ladyboys will think nothing of breaking a bottle over your head or stabbing you in the eye with their high heels.
In this day and age I don't know where it came from but too many people have the attitude "what are they going to do?" Like the gay guy at the Texas airport this week when he refused to stop filming a guy. The guy started kicking and punching the guy with the camera. Its on youtube. If you put up a dare to someone be careful because they might accept it.
Some of the rules in Thailand. 1. Never get into a fight 2. Never get involved in a fight between two Thai's. I watched a Thai guy punching his girlfriend in public. Some American guy start punching the Thai guy sticking up for the Thai girl. The Thai girl picked up a beer bottle and cracked the guy in the face with it as she said don't hurt my boyfriend! The American guy was hurt really bad. It is a different mindset over there. Rule. 3 - Remember Thailand is a dream. Just a fantasy. Don't believe it is real. Don't bareback these girls! Don't send them money when you leave.
No. Actually, some years ago I tried to figure it out with the Kamagra jelly (by trial and error), but couldn't. I'm still not sure whether Kamagra fakes are around (seems unlikely given the low price, 60 baht per 100 MG jelly pack), or their production process just sucks. I was buying from 2 pharmacies in Bangkok, not the street, and it's even inconsistent at the same vendor. Sidegra (the Thai product) does not seem to have these problems, always works with roughly the same intensity.Thank you Crocodilexp. Do you know what the average price of Cialis is? It should be much more expensive than Kamagra / Sidegra and the chance of getting a fake are high, right?
Crocodilexp
10-28-14, 21:31
Do you know what the average price of Cialis is? It should be much more expensive than Kamagra / Sidegra and the chance of getting a fake are high, right?
Don't know the price for original Cialis (but then, how many "originals" are genuine?). There's a generic (made in India, I think), called Apcalis (same active ingredient, Tadalafil). I can't remember the exact price (it was a few years back when I used it), but my guess is it should cost 100-150 baht / pill (or 400-600 for a box of 4). Cialis (Tadalafil) tends to be slower to start, but lasting longer and tapering off more slowly than Viagra (Sildenafil citrate), up to 2 days (vs 4-6h for V). Good for that extended long-time.
ActionOriented
10-29-14, 05:51
Don't know the price for original Cialis (but then, how many "originals" are genuine?). There's a generic (made in India, I think), called Apcalis (same active ingredient, Tadalafil). I can't remember the exact price (it was a few years back when I used it), but my guess is it should cost 100-150 baht / pill (or 400-600 for a box of 4). Cialis (Tadalafil) tends to be slower to start, but lasting longer and tapering off more slowly than Viagra (Sildenafil citrate), up to 2 days (vs 4-6h for V). Good for that extended long-time.Wow, that is quite expensive in comparison (if it is the current market price). In India, the price for Tadalafil generics start at less than 50 baht for a box of 4 pills (10 MG dosage).
I too am puzzled by this as there are the famous Soi running from 2nd Road in a Westerly direction (to and from Beach Road) and also also many alleys running in an Easterly direction off 2nd Road towards 3rd road / Soi BuaKhao etc.They all have different names so they can tell them apart.
But if you're puzzled because you don't know the logic behind it, you don't know how you can tell to which street a soi belongs, then I can't help you because I don't know that either. I only happened to know that Beach Road has no sois.
For example: Soi BuaKhao seems to be a (main) road on its own because they always refer to it as 'Soi BuaKhao' and not 'Central Pattaya Road Soi BuaKhao' or 'South Pattaya Road Soi BuaKhao'. I don't know why.
Hello guys,
Am travelling to Pattaya for the first time next month. Can you please share must do places. Low risk, vfm. In Pattaya?
Also how to differentiate ladyboys from real pussy?
Would be grateful for any help including links to prev posts on the subject.
Cheers.
SG69.
Hello guys,
Also how to differentiate ladyboys from real pussy?
Ladyboys you fuck in the ass, lube required. Real pussy is warm and moist, more fun.
Also, with a LB, you might get cock slapped in your face.
Have a blast!
Global Surfer
10-30-14, 01:49
Hello guys,
Am travelling to Pattaya for the first time next month. Can you please share must do places. Low risk, vfm. In Pattaya?
Also how to differentiate ladyboys from real pussy?
Would be grateful for any help including links to prev posts on the subject.
Cheers.
SG69.Ladyboys are generally taller and more good looing then thai girls.
Adams apple use to be a good sign but now surgery is available to suppress it.
The most reliable sign in my opinion are broad shoulders.
They are also generally more frisky.
If you speak to them you will notice hoarseness of voice.
Ladyboys are generally taller and more good looing then thai girls.
Adams apple use to be a good sign but now surgery is available to suppress it.
The most reliable sign in my opinion are broad shoulders.
They are also generally more frisky.
If you speak to them you will notice hoarseness of voice.
Ladyboys you fuck in the ass, lube required. Real pussy is warm and moist, more fun.
Also, with a LB, you might get cock slapped in your face.
Have a blast!Thanks guys, this is very helpful. Still need your help with:
1. The best places for a first timer to monger.
2. Details of the best massage place in Pattaya in terms of service for soapy, 4 hands massage, etc.
3. Also a good indication of the rates. I RTFFed and found that 500 baht for ST and 1000 for LT is par for the course. Is that correct? How about massage joints extras charges?
Cheers.
Member #4698
10-30-14, 02:44
1. The best places for a first timer to monger.
2. Details of the best massage place in Pattaya in terms of service for soapy, 4 hands massage, etc.
3. Also a good indication of the rates. I RTFFed and found that 500 baht for ST and 1000 for LT is par for the course. Is that correct? How about massage joints extras charges?
Cheers.
1. For a 1st time Pattaya player it is a no brainer. Start your trip out right on Walking Street in stand up Go Go's like Happy, Sensations, Baccara, Airport, Babydolls, What's Up, Heaven Above, Peppermint, and Windmill. Pros: Lots of High Quality Girls. It will blow your mind. No Ladyboys. Cons: High Price.
2. Forget Pattaya Soapys. They are inferior to BKK Soapies. You will spend over 2000 bt for plain girls and it ain't worth it. Go to Bangkok!
3. You are quoting Beach Road FL prices above. Go take a look, it is fun, but IMHO Beach Road is for more experienced punters. There are a lot of sub par girls and ladyboys out there, which is no big deal to a more experienced eye, but might be confusing to a newbie. Try Soi Six instead. The price is 1300bt for ST (with 700 bt to 1000 bt for the girl and 300 bt for a room upstairs). Red Point, Nightwish, Sky Bar, O BAR, and Pussy Club are all good. Soi Six Pros: Very Friendly Girls, Good Bars, Good Times. Cons: Quality varies sharply from sexy to very plain. Tip: Do not get falling down drunk or you might wind up with an unexpected experience. 555.
LuvAsianTang
10-30-14, 04:08
1. For a 1st time Pattaya player it is a no brainer. Start your trip out right on Walking Street in stand up Go Go's like Happy, Sensations, Baccara, Airport, Babydolls, What's Up, Heaven Above, Peppermint, and Windmill. Pros: Lots of High Quality Girls. It will blow your mind. No Ladyboys. Cons: High Price.
2. Forget Pattaya Soapys. They are inferior to BKK Soapies. You will spend over 2000 bt for plain girls and it ain't worth it. Go to Bangkok!
3. You are quoting Beach Road FL prices above. Go take a look, it is fun, but IMHO Beach Road is for more experienced punters. There are a lot of sub par girls and ladyboys out there, which is no big deal to a more experienced eye, but might be confusing to a newbie. Try Soi Six instead. The price is 1300bt for ST (with 700 bt to 1000 bt for the girl and 300 bt for a room upstairs). Red Point, Nightwish, Sky Bar, O BAR, and Pussy Club are all good. Soi Six Pros: Very Friendly Girls, Good Bars, Good Times. Cons: Quality varies sharply from sexy to very plain. Tip: Do not get falling down drunk or you might wind up with an unexpected experience. 555.That would be an experience of the third kind (man, woman, {third kind, lady boy}) 555.
LuvAsianTang
10-30-14, 04:23
Loveasian,
The ladyboy boys in Thailand have a mental disorder. If you act like you are not into men they will only go after you harder. I always just smile and say no thank you. The mean looks don't work. The ladyboys will think nothing of breaking a bottle over your head or stabbing you in the eye with their high heels.
In this day and age I don't know where it came from but too many people have the attitude "what are they going to do?" Like the gay guy at the Texas airport this week when he refused to stop filming a guy. The guy started kicking and punching the guy with the camera. Its on youtube. If you put up a dare to someone be careful because they might accept it.
Some of the rules in Thailand. 1. Never get into a fight 2. Never get involved in a fight between two Thai's. I watched a Thai guy punching his girlfriend in public. Some American guy start punching the Thai guy sticking up for the Thai girl. The Thai girl picked up a beer bottle and cracked the guy in the face with it as she said don't hurt my boyfriend! The American guy was hurt really bad. It is a different mindset over there. Rule. 3 - Remember Thailand is a dream. Just a fantasy. Don't believe it is real. Don't bareback these girls! Don't send them money when you leave.Gee thanks tom, I've been going to thailand since 1974 but didn't know this LOL. No all joking aside thanks for the info, and I usually do just smile and say no thanks, but when someone grabs your your package with such intensity that it hurts I think that most people would respond with at least a look of shock. Either way most ladyboys would respond angrily from even a look of shock. Over the span of 40 years of traveling around south east asia this is the first time I've had this happen to me. But my point is, just know that the unexpected can happen no matter how you respond.
LAT.
LuvAsianTang
10-30-14, 05:00
Hello guys,
Am travelling to Pattaya for the first time next month. Can you please share must do places. Low risk, vfm. In Pattaya?
Also how to differentiate ladyboys from real pussy?
Would be grateful for any help including links to prev posts on the subject.
Cheers.
SG69.Sometimes you can tell by the hands and feet being much bigger and the toes thicker. Lady boys (katoys) also usually sound like they are whining when they talk and are more aggressive in their demeanor. If they are wearing pants you can see an obviously different look to the pelvis. Also look for padded hips or unnatural looking hips, or no hips to speak of.
Deep voice isn't always an indication of man hood either. I had a thai girlfriend for several years who had a rather deep voice, even though she was 37 kilos and only 4'11" and believe me she was all woman.
Thai women also have the nicest round butts In MY Honest Opinion. Thai lady boys don't.
Happy hunting LAT.
Thanks guys, this is very helpful. Still need your help with:
1. The best places for a first timer to monger.
2. Details of the best massage place in Pattaya in terms of service for soapy, 4 hands massage, etc.
3. Also a good indication of the rates. I RTFFed and found that 500 baht for ST and 1000 for LT is par for the course. Is that correct? How about massage joints extras charges?
Cheers.There is a rohn nuat (massage place) on soi 11 off 2nd road almost to the intersection with soi Buakhao. They have a sign that says "Thai 200 B; Oil 200 B, Foot 200 B" one one side and "Boom boom, blow job, hand job" on the other side (note the lack of prices). Never bothered to negotiate, but do that FIRST and then pay the agreed amount (IF you want to tip for better service, that's up to you) Myself, I do beach road and ask someone if they can do massage. Your rates are correct for beach road. IF you are good looking, you might be able to offer less, maybe 400. I have had some stay all night just to stay in air-con room, but I tell them that it's the same 500 B.
For a newbie, although you CAN do the go-gos, it gets what _I_ consider "paeng" (that's Thai for "expensive") and your chance of finding GFE is slim to none. All you are to them is a walking ATM. Anyway. That's my "song satang" (2 cents in Thai).
Crocodilexp
10-30-14, 09:30
Wow, that is quite expensive in comparison (if it is the current market price). In India, the price for Tadalafil generics start at less than 50 baht for a box of 4 pills (10 MG dosage).100-150/ pill was a price I found a few years back, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if you could find generic Tadalafil for less in Thailand (though probably not under 60 baht / pill unless you're buying wholesale). Most of those are made in India, so it makes sense they'd be cheaper there. Importing them has a cost, especially since medicines like that are in a gray zone (not so illegal as to land you in prison for decades, but sufficiently gray area to warrant relevant bribes and connections).
Sidegra is the best deal at 25 baht / pill at 50 MG, or 45 baht / pill at 100 MG (box of 4). In Thailand, ED medicine prices vary wildly since customers are often clueless as to what they should cost (and sometimes clueless in general, plus shy to ask around).
Pipe Layer99
10-30-14, 15:59
There is a rohn nuat (massage place) on soi 11 off 2nd road almost to the intersection with soi Buakhao. They have a sign that says "Thai 200 B; Oil 200 B, Foot 200 B" one one side and "Boom boom, blow job, hand job" on the other side (note the lack of prices). Never bothered to negotiate, but do that FIRST and then pay the agreed amount (IF you want to tip for better service, that's up to you) Myself, I do beach road and ask someone if they can do massage. Your rates are correct for beach road. IF you are good looking, you might be able to offer less, maybe 400. I have had some stay all night just to stay in air-con room, but I tell them that it's the same 500 B.
For a newbie, although you CAN do the go-gos, it gets what _I_ consider "paeng" (that's Thai for "expensive") and your chance of finding GFE is slim to none. All you are to them is a walking ATM. Anyway. That's my "song satang" (2 cents in Thai).Well put Dinghy.
Commonglass
10-31-14, 04:54
Scary night walking Soi 6/1 last night. A very dark street with AGGRESSIVE ladyboys. They actually crossed the street to grab me and hold me while they made their offers. Not cool.
Day 1,
I leave BKK negotiate 900 baut trip to Pattaya include tolls. Usually they try to charge 1200-1500. A taxi guy agrees. He does not have a real taxi I find out latter. Too many jitni taxis. He tries to help me and put my bags in his truck. I say no thank you I want bags in bag with me. Anyway, he was driving there so fast if we went any faster we would have went back in time but that is Thai driving. At least no traffic. I told him to slow down but he pretend not to understand. Half way there we break down. We pull on on the side of the highway in the middle of no where. All I could tell was there was some sort of break problem. I wait 10 minutes for him to try to fix the problem. I grabbed my luggage next to me gave if 400 baut and told him sorry I am taking another taxi. IF I would have put my bags in truck noway would I have been able to escape. F- driving there with a brake problem. Its not worth my life. So I'm standing on the side of the highway trying to wave down a taxi. The taxis and the customers in the back of the taxis would all wave back at me me just to F- with me. I have one eye monitoring the broke down taxi driver so he does not sneak behind me and knife me. I try for 20 minutes to get a taxi. ALL of them are going to Pattaya anyway. One regular car sees me. Stops his car in the middle of the fricken highway. Parks his car get out and runs over to me. Says Pattaya. I say yes. He says lets go. He runs through the highway gets to his car and come and picks me up. I almost ran with him until he stopped me. What was I thinking? I could have gotten killed. I was thinking pussy in Pattaya that what. Anyway, I asked him how much he wants and he says up to me. So he gets me to Pattaya in 30 minutes and I gave him 400 baut. He was very happy.
I check in and get lunch for so fuel. Now its time for action. I take the bus down to the Big see mall. They have a ton of beer bars there. I find a girl I like and she wants 1000 short time plus 300 for room. I tell her 700 and 300 for room. She agrees. I tell her I want two girls. She goes out side and picks her hot friend. Both are like 20 years old. Both incredible bodies. To make a long story short. It was not really that good. It is always better to bang one. Have her leave then have a session with the other one. Changing condoms so many times between girls just kills the mood and is a hassle. I did do two other short times after that. So I went through 4 girls. I was tired and ready to pass out. It was only 9 pm. LOL. As I was walking back to my hotel I seen this bar girl that was incredible. Looked 21 but she was 25. She had a bubble ass and large see cup popping out her shirt. I was actually sexually burned out and sex was the last think that I was thinking about. But, in thailand what regulars will tell you. IF you see a girl you like grab her now. Because she will be gone tomorrow. I walk up to her and ask her how much for a short time. She says 1000 plus 350 bar fine. I tell her 700 plus bar fine. She hesitates butI talk her into it.
We go back to my room. I tell her lets shower together. She says no. So I shower then she showers. She finally comes out and would not let me remove her towel. Sometimes you find a bar girl that will act like a virgin. So I talk her into letting me massage her she still won't remove the towel. Finally I warm her up and get it off. I grab the condom. We are facing each other sitting of bed. I give her lube and tell her to start with a HJ. She reluctantly agrees. Then she tries to kiss me and stick her tongue in my mouth. I turn away and tell her I don't like kiss. We do all positions. She says you said you wanted short time but you really want long time. I ask her how much is long time? She says 2000 baut. I tell her I can only give 1000 for long time. She did not say anything but stayed over night. Around 11 pm I was so tired I just wanted to sleep but she was wide awake. She would not let me sleep and we F- again. She was highly offended I would not kiss her lips. I saw latter in the night night she did have a cold sore behind her lip that was very small. Good thing I did not kiss or do BBBJ. Exactly because I expect that. In the first few hours I felt like we were husband and wife. Theses girls can make the connection fast. The next day I wanted time to myself but she wanted to go to the beach with me. I took her for breakfast and then told her I had work to do. She made a date with me at 9 pm at her bar because she wants to hang out more. I will not show. I did not have the heart to tell her our time was over. I feel so guilty. But too many woman here. But I did bang her 3-4 times for 700 baut. Great deal. I did want to kiss that sweet girl all night long.
Pattaya has a decent amount of girls. Not so many guys at the beer bars. Still has alot our tourists just bars not that full. It rains briefly everyday. Always carry and umbrella.
Scary night walking Soi 6/1 last night. A very dark street with AGGRESSIVE ladyboys. They actually crossed the street to grab me and hold me while they made their offers. Not cool.Moral of the story, stay off Soi 6/1. LOL.
I went as a newbie; Beach Road, FL, between 500-700 baht / go in your hotel room, pussy, anal, CIM, threesome, GFE. You can get literally whatever you want.
Commonglass
10-31-14, 18:10
I found a hot lady at Lisa Bar on Soi 6. I can't remember her name. She seemed a little drugged out, but I decided to take her upstairs. She set the price at 300 baht for the bar and 100 baht for her. We go upstairs, shower together, go to the bedroom, get naked on the bed together and then she's not into it. She pushes me away, says something about being too tired from dancing the previous night and that there will be "no boom boom. " She suggests that I take a nap instead. I immediately get dressed and go back to the bar for a refund. They give me the 1000 baht back, but refuse to refund the 300 baht because I was (briefly) in the room. What bullshit is that?
ActionOriented
10-31-14, 18:17
I found a hot lady at Lisa Bar on Soi 6. I can't remember her name. She seemed a little drugged out, but I decided to take her upstairs. She set the price at 300 baht for the bar and 100 baht for her. We go upstairs, shower together, go to the bedroom, get naked on the bed together and then she's not into it. She pushes me away, says something about being too tired from dancing the previous night and that there will be "no boom boom. " She suggests that I take a nap instead. I immediately get dressed and go back to the bar for a refund. They give me the 1000 baht back, but refuse to refund the 300 baht because I was (briefly) in the room. What bullshit is that?Thanks for the report, its unfortunate that they didn't return the 300 baht, they should have returned it (it would be the decent thing to do) given that the girl behaved in a shitty way and didn't serve you. But at least you got back 1,000 baht, I have had a case in the past of no boom boom and no refund (from a Go-Go).
I found a hot lady at Lisa Bar on Soi 6. I can't remember her name. She seemed a little drugged out, but I decided to take her upstairs. She set the price at 300 baht for the bar and 100 baht for her. We go upstairs, shower together, go to the bedroom, get naked on the bed together and then she's not into it. She pushes me away, says something about being too tired from dancing the previous night and that there will be "no boom boom. " She suggests that I take a nap instead. I immediately get dressed and go back to the bar for a refund. They give me the 1000 baht back, but refuse to refund the 300 baht because I was (briefly) in the room. What bullshit is that?For 1000 BTH you would get a freelancer, what's the point to get a bar lady for 1000 + 300 BTH?
I found a hot lady at Lisa Bar on Soi 6. I can't remember her name. She seemed a little drugged out, but I decided to take her upstairs. She set the price at 300 baht for the bar and 100 baht for her. We go upstairs, shower together, go to the bedroom, get naked on the bed together and then she's not into it. She pushes me away, says something about being too tired from dancing the previous night and that there will be "no boom boom. " She suggests that I take a nap instead. I immediately get dressed and go back to the bar for a refund. They give me the 1000 baht back, but refuse to refund the 300 baht because I was (briefly) in the room. What bullshit is that?Commonglass,
She was drugged out that was the first red flag. You where actually lucky to get that 1000 back. There are no refunds in Thailand usually.
Thanks for reporting, Commonglass. Lisa Bar is clearly a place to avoid!
My brief experience of Soi6 bars was you pay 300 baht for the room up front, but only pay for the girl afterwards, 700 to 1000 baht. So in that case you wouldn't of had to even ask for the 1000 back. I think you have to just forego the room charge and put it down as a bad experience. From what I understand Soi6 is generally a good place and reasonably consistent. I'll be exploring again in December.
Ok, I am not going to do a blow by blow girl by girl. Unless it is a crazy experience. I had a chance to do a lot of walking yesterday and wanted to post the current Pattaya situation. It does rain here for a short time every day. Which is nothing and just part of being here. The rain is not even bad. If you compare it too the rainy season in Pattaya like in September. Now that is bad and like a rain from hell. There are a lot of tourist here. But they all basically go to the beach street walk where the beach ends. I went there last night. Too many people and too much noise.
On beach street there is not nearly as many freelancers as there was 3 years ago. The last 3 years I noticed more and more international girls working on beach street. You had the Russian girls, the black chicks. But now there are no more Russians anywhere that are working girls. I saw 3 black girls working last night total. In Bangkok the black chicks disappeared as well. There had to be some clean up by the Thai government.
The beer bars are slow. The gogo seem to be busy. I went into agogo last last. I liked a girl and ask what the cost was for her and bar fine. She wants 2000 Baut and the bar fine is 800 and this is short time. F- that I left immediately.
I been going to pick up girls at the beer bars and little massage places. They all start washing for 1000 baut. I say 700 and they always agree with the exception of one. I have been having a great time. Not too many people where I stay and just the right amount of girl selection. I will say nothing like the amount of girls that was here 10 years ago. Even 10 years ago. What happened? Did the put Obama in charge of the tourist industry here?
Awesome Man
11-01-14, 05:56
I've been to Lisa Bar several time and never had any kind of trouble. In fact, Lisa Bar is my favourite Place at Soi 6, both for drinking and for P4 P. Very nice and clean rooms upstairs, I could live there if it wasn't for the shared bathroom. Girls always friendly and nice, but I Always pick Salaa. 300 baht for room and 1000 for her. I'm going there again on my next visit to Pattaya in February, that's for sure.
I been going to pick up girls at the beer bars and little massage places. They all start washing for 1000 baut. I say 700 and they always agree with the exception of one. I have been having a great time. Not too many people where I stay and just the right amount of girl selection. Were this soapy massages? Can you recommend some places?
Are there some nuru massages in Pattaya?
Were this soapy massages? Can you recommend some places?
Are there some nuru massages in Pattaya?No soapy massages are only done in the high class massage places. Prices start at 1500 baut. In Bangkok soapy massages are starting more around 2500 baut. I like honey massage on Soi 11 in Pattaya. When you go into these places including Honey massage ask the price before you sit down. Act like you are not sure you are going to stay. If you go in there with a big smile on your face like it is your first time. They will charge you 2300-2500 baut. This is because the can smell you are a sucker. I noticed there is not really a set price. That is way you don't see any price list anywhere. There is not even prices for the drinks. Gee I wonder why that is? If I remember correctly when I went last year. They wanted 1500 and I told them I paid 1300 last time they said OK. As you walk in one of the male hosts will try to get you to sit down as fast as possible. They will then ask you if you would like a drink. The casual way they do it makes you feel they are your friend hooking you up. But you will be charged for everything. Do not be a sucker and accept the drink without asking the cost of the drinks. The manager will hike up the drink cost and pocket the money. They will even be so kind as to help you choose the girl. There are two sides of girls. Both different prices. If you don't see a girl you like just leave. There are soapys everywhere.
Now where I usually agree with you mouse, and prior to my very bad experience with lady boys, I've had no problems. But, there is always the possibility of smelly things hitting the proverbial fan.
A brief synopses of my bed experience: I was in a bar on soi 6 or 7 that was mixed ladyboys and real yummy girls. A ladyboy reached around and grabbed my dick and squeezed hard enough to hurt me. I must have looked pissed off because she came unglued and started to yell " what the fuck is your problem" over and over. I decided to leave and paid my tab and said bye to the hot little pooying I was ready to barfine. Upon arriving at my motorbike much to my chagrin, there sat the ladyboy repeating her " what the fuck " line. She got off my bike and hit me over the head with a five pound wooden high heal, but not before I had dawned my helmet, and inserted the key in the ignition, which later saved me from a real ass whooping.
Now the fight was on, as I was throwing throat punches elbows to the head and running front kicks to her mussy (man pussy). Now mind you this mitch (man b**ch) was a good head taller and 40 years younger then me, but old age and treachery once again over came youth and inexperience, and I won the battle but not the war. Her allies started to come from all corners wielding folding wooden chairs and tables, and now I was literally fighting off 4 more ladyboys for my life. Things seemed to be happening in slow motion as I was dredging up fighting skills that had been long forgotten from my more formidable youth, and finally the war was won. I managed to start the bike and speed away from further harm but as I did another 5 pound high heal hit me squarely between my shoulder blades. I did sustain some minor injuries including scratches, and splinters from wooden chairs that had been demolished by my helmet and a few well placed blocks and kicks but luckily nothing serious. It could have been another front page story of the early demise of yet another farrang in pattaya.
I now steer clear of the lady boys as much as possible in a city where they seem to be collecting like flies on hong nam. Now when I walk by them I just look straight forward with a smile and look for girls.
So as to you question " seriously? what do you really think they are going to do to you? the very worst i have ever experienced is a tug on the arm." I guess my answer would be " more than you expect".
Happy pooning and be careful out there it can be a real zoo. LAT.That sounds pretty grim. The only vaguely similar experience that I have had was resolved by the mamasan intervening. Cost me a few hundred Baht to walk away from some trouble, but luckily no organic damage. Anyway, clearly if that was your experience then you are right to warn people.
1. For a 1st time Pattaya player it is a no brainer. Start your trip out right on Walking Street in stand up Go Go's like Happy, Sensations, Baccara, Airport, Babydolls, What's Up, Heaven Above, Peppermint, and Windmill. Pros: Lots of High Quality Girls. It will blow your mind. No Ladyboys. Cons: High Price.
2. Forget Pattaya Soapys. They are inferior to BKK Soapies. You will spend over 2000 bt for plain girls and it ain't worth it. Go to Bangkok!
3. You are quoting Beach Road FL prices above. Go take a look, it is fun, but IMHO Beach Road is for more experienced punters. There are a lot of sub par girls and ladyboys out there, which is no big deal to a more experienced eye, but might be confusing to a newbie. Try Soi Six instead. The price is 1300bt for ST (with 700 bt to 1000 bt for the girl and 300 bt for a room upstairs). Red Point, Nightwish, Sky Bar, O BAR, and Pussy Club are all good. Soi Six Pros: Very Friendly Girls, Good Bars, Good Times. Cons: Quality varies sharply from sexy to very plain. Tip: Do not get falling down drunk or you might wind up with an unexpected experience. 555.You haven't mentioned my favourite: Ruby Club.
I found a hot lady at Lisa Bar on Soi 6. I can't remember her name. She seemed a little drugged out, but I decided to take her upstairs. She set the price at 300 baht for the bar and 100 baht for her. We go upstairs, shower together, go to the bedroom, get naked on the bed together and then she's not into it. She pushes me away, says something about being too tired from dancing the previous night and that there will be "no boom boom. " She suggests that I take a nap instead. I immediately get dressed and go back to the bar for a refund. They give me the 1000 baht back, but refuse to refund the 300 baht because I was (briefly) in the room. What bullshit is that?I've been there and done that. You won't get the 300 Baht back. If you were in the West a legal mind would argue that there were two contracts: one with the bar for a room, and one with the girl for a fuck. The girl defaulted, the bar did not. Not their fault that you only used the room for 2 minutes.
For 1000 BTH you would get a freelancer, what's the point to get a bar lady for 1000 + 300 BTH?Because you think that the bar girl is incredibly sexy and you have to have her whatever the price? One of a thousand reasons why you might want to take a girl from a bar or a gogo or a club or a massage parlour, etc etc.
I see that the standard price for ST bars on Soi 6 is 300 + 1000 BTH. Does ST means 1 hour (is it 1 hour or more?) or until you cum? Does it mean that if you cum quickly the game end immediately? Or there is time limit only and if you cum quickly then you cum second time? If you go over the time limit then you pay again 1000 BTH (or 300 BTH) or just give tip to the girl?
I try to compare those clubs with Tulip in Bangkok or Annie's where you have 2 hours and can cum twice during this time. However for ST freelancers in Bangkok try to practice 'you cum I go', even if you made '2 cum arrangement' before. Do freelancers in Pattaya (I see that the price is similar to soi 6 bars - 1000 BTH for ST) the same?
Slept till 11 am so I was fully charged. Headed to Top Market on 369/1 Moo 9 Tumbol Nongpru Amphur Banglamung Chonburi 20260. This place has a great food court and hot meals ready to go. A year ago they had a much better selection of hot foods take away. I don't know why the selection is so small now. I headed to Soi 6 not a far walk from the market. This is the best place to go for a nooner I have found. It was around 1 pm so there was about 70 girls to choose from. In the evening there are more like 120. I went through 3 different girls I picked at the bars. All beautiful. Two had vagina so big I could not feel anything. I asked how long one was working and she said she has been there for 6 months. That makes sense. The third girl however was thicker with DD's. Nice and tight and we went at it for an hour. No rush at all. I did notice every day the girls on Soi 6 seem to change. New girls come in everyday and old girls leave. All 20-25 years old.
The beach street has some girls out around 4 pm. But the selection was weak.
3 years ago and before that. There would be actually hundreds of girls on one street that would form a line so you could not get away. 8 girls at a time would all grab you. Those day appear to be over. But still many girl here. Lots of fun. I had my first Thai massage with two girls at the same time. It was unreal. I ask for sex and they said they did not do that there. It did appear to be legit. The girl was rocking back and forth over my back around my hand. I stuck my finger out and towards her pussy and she continued to rock. Maybe she fought it was all just an accident. But I did try again to get her for short time and she said no. LOL.
Lots of great artwork on the street next to Mikes Shopping center. I definitely want to by some paintings very reasonable. Now shipping is a different story. Next time I come to Thailand I am going to buy one of those sleeping nets to sleep in. Every night I am getting eaten alive by mosquitoes. I definitely recommend it.
I see that the standard price for ST bars on Soi 6 is 300 + 1000 BTH. Does ST means 1 hour (is it 1 hour or more?) or until you cum? Does it mean that if you cum quickly the game end immediately? Or there is time limit only and if you cum quickly then you cum second time? If you go over the time limit then you pay again 1000 BTH (or 300 BTH) or just give tip to the girl?
I try to compare those clubs with Tulip in Bangkok or Annie's where you have 2 hours and can cum twice during this time. However for ST freelancers in Bangkok try to practice 'you cum I go', even if you made '2 cum arrangement' before.In Soi 6 you make your own arrangement with the girl, which in 99% of the time is 700 or 1000 bht for 1 shot. The girls would be surprised by anything else, but nothing is impossible. The difference with say Tulip is that the girls there are hired by the hour, so will happily chat or snooze or give you a massage to fill the time. In Soi 6, after your shot, the girl will be thinking that it's time to go downstairs, either for the next customer, or to party or drink with her friends.
A better alternative might be to barfine the girl (perhaps 500bht?) and take her back to your room for a more relaxed session. But to be honest, Soi 6 isn't about relaxed lovemaking.
Next time I come to Thailand I am going to buy one of those sleeping nets to sleep in. Every night I am getting eaten alive by mosquitoes. I definitely recommend it.Or you could try closing the windows and turning on the air con. Never once have I been bitten by a mosquito in Pattaya.
Fast Eddie 48
11-02-14, 23:44
I see that the standard price for ST bars on Soi 6 is 300 + 1000 BTH. Does ST means 1 hour (is it 1 hour or more?) or until you cum? Does it mean that if you cum quickly the game end immediately? Or there is time limit only and if you cum quickly then you cum second time? If you go over the time limit then you pay again 1000 BTH (or 300 BTH) or just give tip to the girl?
I try to compare those clubs with Tulip in Bangkok or Annie's where you have 2 hours and can cum twice during this time. However for ST freelancers in Bangkok try to practice 'you cum I go', even if you made '2 cum arrangement' before. Do freelancers in Pattaya (I see that the price is similar to soi 6 bars - 1000 BTH for ST) the same?To Otari.
This is one shot only you can also do take out for one HR back to hotel some girl will not go outside, you can offer 500 bht more for a 2nd shot you can also get all nighter depend on the time most girl will charge 2000 bht after midnight til morning, if you want multi shots just ask the girl upfront for LT, don't compare soi 6 bar to Tulip you don't get the same service here for 1300 bht.
Fast eddie 48.
To Tom.
So when is the last time you are in Pattaya 3 yr ago or 10 yr ago Top market at central pattaya remodel 5 yr ago they don't have the grilling station that grill seafood or steak anymore only the Deli avalible, food court is still there but no business after central festival mall food court open.
Fast eddie 48.Since we are on the topic of food. My last trip in March -.
The top floor (5?) of Mike's Mall has a remodelled food court. Not the selection or quality of Central floors (3-5) but clean, fast & fills need for cheap snack.
Or you could try closing the windows and turning on the air con. Never once have I been bitten by a mosquito in Pattaya.Mouse1,
Close the window and turn on the AC. Why didn't I think of that? No, both the AC and window were closed. Getting bit by bugs is all part of being in a 3rd world country. Even sitting in one of the open door restaurants here bugs are everywhere. I can't imagine not having bugs around you. Unless you are covered head to toe in bug spray. But, here taking so many showers and massages. I prefer no bug spray.
Team,
I am staying near Mikes shopping Mall. Is there any weight lifting gym someone can recommend near this area?
Mr Enternational
11-03-14, 04:15
Lots of great artwork on the street next to Mikes Shopping center. I definitely want to by some paintings very reasonable. Now shipping is a different story. You take it off the wooden frame and roll it up to travel with it then you have it framed for hanging when you get home.
Team,
I am staying near Mikes shopping Mall. Is there any weight lifting gym someone can recommend near this area?I found Tonys gym. About 15 minute walk from Mikes. What is strange is there are actually two Mikes gyms 100 feet from each other. One inside and one outside which is better. Both are part of same gym. After I exercised in the indoor one that was more like a sauna. I left and found the other one. Gym was about what to expect in Pattaya.
Started with a nooner. First two girls were not good when The took off there cloths. Latter in the day picked up 2 more on same street as Honey Body massage cross street is second road. The girls change everyday or do long time with customers so always new girls. The last 2 had incredible bodies. The last one I picked up wanted 1000 baut. I talked her down to 700 her English was excellent. When I go pay. The manager wanted 300 bar fine plus 200 for the room. F- that. I told her I would just pay the bar fine and take her to my room. This chick was gogo girl hot 21 years old. We get back to my room. It was very rushed and she even was asking me to hurry up and cum now she wants to eat. WTF? Glad I did not agree to 1000 baut. Anyway, after we shower and she gets ready to leave I give her 700 baut as agreed before. She starts with its 1000 baut. I tell her we agreed on 700 and say she rush me the whole time. She popped out a big smile on her face and busted out laughing. She realized I was not a sucker and was not going to fall for her Bull S.
The last girl was the only reason I wrote the post. Stick up for yourself guys and don't let these girls hustle you.
ActionOriented
11-03-14, 18:16
The last girl was the only reason I wrote the post. Stick up for yourself guys and don't let these girls hustle you.Good advice, thanks. Something I need to learn quicker, the hustle is always on, just need to be able to say NO.
Next time I come to Thailand I am going to buy one of those sleeping nets to sleep in. Every night I am getting eaten alive by mosquitoes. I definitely recommend it.I recommend to take Malarone to be sure that you will not get malaria. It's quite expensive but it works well. You can take it as preventive (1 pill a day) or as a treatment in case you get malaria (3 days 4 pills a day).
A better alternative might be to barfine the girl (perhaps 500bht?) and take her back to your room for a more relaxed session. But to be honest, Soi 6 isn't about relaxed lovemaking.Mouse1 and Fast Eddie 48,
Thanks for advice.
I understood Soi 6 means: 1300 BTH = 1 hour = 1 shot, right? Does the same rule applies in general for ST freelances / bar girls? Or this is up to negotiations for example 1000 BTH = 2-3 hours = multiple shots?
Pipe Layer99
11-03-14, 18:53
I talked her down to 700 her English was excellent. When I go pay. The manager wanted 300 bar fine plus 200 for the room. F- that. I told her I would just pay the bar fine and take her to my room. This chick was gogo girl hot 21 years old. We get back to my room. It was very rushed and she even was asking me to hurry up and cum now she wants to eat. WTF? Glad I did not agree to 1000 baut. Anyway, after we shower and she gets ready to leave I give her 700 baut as agreed before. She starts with its 1000 baut. I tell her we agreed on 700 and say she rush me the whole time. She popped out a big smile on her face and busted out laughing. She realized I was not a sucker and was not going to fall for her Bull S.
The last girl was the only reason I wrote the post. Stick up for yourself guys and don't let these girls hustle you.Good for you. Good advice for others as well.
Not only did the girl try to get you for an extra 300, the lady at the shop tried too when she asked for 200 more. Even if you were going to do the girl upstairs, the 300 baht you gave for the barfine covers the room.
I found Tonys gym. About 15 minute walk from Mikes. What is strange is there are actually two Mikes gyms 100 feet from each other. One inside and one outside which is better. Both are part of same gym. After I exercised in the indoor one that was more like a sauna. I left and found the other one. Gym was about what to expect in Pattaya.Tony has quite a few gyms around town, and they seem to pop up in different locations. I'd sure appreciate it if you would please note the location of the ones you are referring to.
Thanks.
Pipe Layer99
11-03-14, 19:07
Tony has quite a few gyms around town, and they seem to pop up in different locations. I'd sure appreciate it if you would please note the location of the ones you are referring to. Thanks.It's the one on Soi Bukhao. From Soi Honey / Soi11, head North on Soi Bukhao about 300 m and you will find it on the left side (near the are-Con beer bars and the market).
After I exercised in the indoor one that was more like a sauna. I left and found the other one. Gym was about what to expect in Pattaya.Tony's gym on 3rd Road near Pattaya Tai is indoor and has AC but the price is much higher than the other two you mentioned. There is another one right at the intersection of 3rd Road/Pattaya Tai but that one is only for Thais and is uncovered/outdoors.
Tony has quite a few gyms around town, and they seem to pop up in different locations. I'd sure appreciate it if you would please note the location of the ones you are referring to.
ThanksI originally wanted to go to Powerhouse Gym at 139 Moo 10 Soi 16, Walking Street, Pattaya, Bang Lamung, Walking Street. Pattaya, Pattaya, 20150. It is supposed to be right off walking street. I just could not find it. After 40 minutes of searching in the heat. I asked a motor bike to take me to the gym and he took me to Tonys Gym. From where I was an the direction he took me the gym was most likely Moo 12, Thappraya Road, Jomtien, Bang Lamung, Jomtien, Pattaya, 20150.
The are gyms in Pattaya but they all seem to be outside the tourist areas. Tonys gym was about a 20 minute walk from Mikes Shopping center. But, because there are a couple of them you have to find one that is closest to you.
I recommend to take Malarone to be sure that you will not get malaria. It's quite expensive but it works well. You can take it as preventive (1 pill a day) or as a treatment in case you get malaria (3 days 4 pills a day).You don't need malaria pills in Thailand and certainly not in cities like Bangkok or Pattaya. If you get bitten a lot you can use a spray (with DEET if you want), that's all you need.
Mouse1,
Close the window and turn on the AC. Why didn't I think of that? No, both the AC and window were closed. Getting bit by bugs is all part of being in a 3rd world country. Even sitting in one of the open door restaurants here bugs are everywhere. I can't imagine not having bugs around you. Unless you are covered head to toe in bug spray. But, here taking so many showers and massages. I prefer no bug spray.Maybe you just don't have enough stress? Scientists think there might be a relation between stress and mosquitoes. When you're stressed-out your body produces chemicals that the bugs don't like.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970204660604574378933761528214
Although I have to say that in my experience I get bitten MORE when I'm stressed-out. But maybe that's just a coincidence.
Mouse1 and Fast Eddie 48,
Thanks for advice.
I understood Soi 6 means: 1300 BTH = 1 hour = 1 shot, right? Does the same rule applies in general for ST freelances / bar girls? Or this is up to negotiations for example 1000 BTH = 2-3 hours = multiple shots?Soi 6: in most places the charge is now 300 bht for the room and 1000 bht for the girl. It used to be 700 bht for the girl, but the 1000 bht price seems to be more common now. Having said that, if you offer 700 bht you may well be accepted, particularly if it early in the day, or it is quiet for other reasons. For that you get 1 shot.
You could probably negotiate for more, but frankly you wouldn't necessarily want to sit around in a short time room waiting to recharge. Best to have one shot then go find another girl if you have the power.
With most girls, freelancers or bar-girls, it's either ST or LT, and it might be hard to explain what you want otherwise. But money talks, and you can get anything for the right price. That price will depend on the girl, and her expectations.
In real terms, the prices are low, and frankly you can afford to 'waste' money. I met a girl last visit in Soi 6 at 11 am, when I really had 'no power' after a hard night. But I thought, what the heck. We agreed 300 + 700 bht, went upstairs and had a nice time, although she had to work harder than she anticipated, finishing off with a nice BBBJCIM. Everyone was a winner!
You don't need malaria pills in Thailand and certainly not in cities like Bangkok or Pattaya. If you get bitten a lot you can use a spray (with DEET if you want), that's all you need.Agreed. It would be crazy to take anti-malarials if you don't need to. I repeat that I have never been bitten by a mossie in Pattaya, but a few places where there is greenery and water you often get some savage midges.
LittleBigMan
11-04-14, 15:42
In Pattaya the last thing you need to worry about is Malaria? Dengue Fever!
LuvAsianTang
11-04-14, 17:48
Mouse1,
Close the window and turn on the AC. Why didn't I think of that? No, both the AC and window were closed. Getting bit by bugs is all part of being in a 3rd world country. Even sitting in one of the open door restaurants here bugs are everywhere. I can't imagine not having bugs around you. Unless you are covered head to toe in bug spray. But, here taking so many showers and massages. I prefer no bug spray.I have a mosquito stick I bought many years ago in Alaska, the land of mosquitoes. I don't think you can get them any more but the main ingredient is ammonia, and it works in seconds to take away the itch. You might give it a try, all you do is dab a little on the fresh bite. I hope it works for you.
LAT.
Mr Enternational
11-04-14, 18:16
I have a mosquito stick I bought many years ago in Alaska, the land of mosquitoes. I don't think you can get them any more but the main ingredient is ammonia, and it works in seconds to take away the itch. You might give it a try, all you do is dab a little on the fresh bite. I hope it works for you.
LAT.They are in stores in the states. Drug stores, Walmart, etc. Ammonia and camphor. I always keep one in my toiletry bag.
FreebieFan
11-05-14, 02:16
They are in stores in the states. Drug stores, Walmart, etc. Ammonia and camphor. I always keep one in my toiletry bag.Small dab of Tiger balm on a bite works equally well. With the added bonus of keeping the rest of the biting gang far away.
Wolvenvacht
11-05-14, 03:22
Small dab of Tiger balm on a bite works equally well. Of course, since the main ingredients of Tiger Balm are camphor and menthol. Both work as a mild analgesic.
With the added bonus of keeping the rest of the biting gang far away.That is less certain. Most of the "smelly" anti-mosquito products have, upon scientific tests, no effect whatsoever or the effect is limited to the immediate part of your skin where it was applied to. Mosquito's are attracted to you by certain elements in the smell of your sweat. Hence, like a true hunter they fly upwind to you and bite you. The very few effective products confuse the mosquito's sense of smell or masquerade your smell. DEET is one of those rare products.
None of the Tiger Balm components are known to have that effect. There is a Tiger Balm Mosquito Repellent product that adds citronella as the repellent. Unfortunately citronella has no effect on mosquitoes, although it does work for other flying pests, such as little flies.
LuvAsianTang
11-05-14, 03:42
Of course, since the main ingredients of Tiger Balm are camphor and menthol. Both work as a mild analgesic.
That is less certain. Most of the "smelly" anti-mosquito products have, upon scientific tests, no effect whatsoever or the effect is limited to the immediate part of your skin where it was applied to. Mosquito's are attracted to you by certain elements in the smell of your sweat. Hence, like a true hunter they fly upwind to you and bite you. The very few effective products confuse the mosquito's sense of smell or masquerade your smell. DEET is one of those rare products.
None of the Tiger Balm components are known to have that effect. There is a Tiger Balm Mosquito Repellent product that adds citronella as the repellent. Unfortunately citronella has no effect on mosquitoes, although it does work for other flying pests, such as little flies.High doses of vitamin B12 are supposed to keep them away from you as well, with out the harsh chemicals and bad smells. That's what I do anyway just for shits and grins. It seems to work well though and I'm not bothered by the nasty little critters so much. Long pants and shoes with socks also helps to keep the ankle biters away when you are sitting outdoors eating a nice meal. I can usually detect and destroy the little biotches before they land on me above the waist. It is the females who do all the blood sucking, just like in human life experiences LOL. They take your blood and coat their eggs with it to feed them the necessary protein to develop yet even more blood suckers.
when you sleep just leave your ceiling fan on and make sure you feel the gentle breeze on any exposed body parts. mosquitoes can't sustain flight in breezy conditions so they tend to just stay away from them.
hope this info helps, now let's get back to discussing pussy ha ha LAT
It took my like 5 days to get adjust to the time difference. Now I can stay up till very late. The independents on beach street are not fully out until 11 pm. You will see a few out relier in the day and it will start to really build around 7 pm. With everyone out by 11 pm. I found a couple diamonds. The hottest girl are grabbed fast and it is just luck. One girl I found was 19 rail thin with a black chicks bubble ass. I am so upset I did not get her number. It was incredible and only 700 baut.
I am going to try to concentrate on more independents now. At some of the bars they charge 350 to use the bar bedrooms when the bar right next to it will charge only 200. I am going to start boycotting places that over charge out of principle to keep cost down for everyone. Otherwise cost will continue to rise. I found there is no difference between the bar girls and independents except the independents are half the cost. You just have to work harder to find them.
LittleBigMan
11-05-14, 07:25
High doses of vitamin B12 are supposed to keep them away from you as well, with out the harsh chemicals and bad smells. That's what I do anyway just for shits and grins. It seems to work well though and I'm not bothered by the nasty little critters so much. Long pants and shoes with socks also helps to keep the ankle biters away when you are sitting outdoors eating a nice meal. I can usually detect and destroy the little biotches before they land on me above the waist. It is the females who do all the blood sucking, just like in human life experiences LOL. They take your blood and coat their eggs with it to feed them the necessary protein to develop yet even more blood suckers.
when you sleep just leave your ceiling fan on and make sure you feel the gentle breeze on any exposed body parts. mosquitoes can't sustain flight in breezy conditions so they tend to just stay away from them.
hope this info helps, now let's get back to discussing pussy ha ha LATI was told a number of years ago about be-12 from a Doctor who use to work in the tropics. She told me about be-12 for Mosquitoes and it's other benefits. I've been taking 1 tablet a day 2500 MG for a number of years and as for me it seem to work. I do not wear long pants and short 100% of the time and shoe and socks only when I club or Go. Go. Out here in the Darkside away from the City, Hotels and such the black mosquitoes are all over the place and after all these years I could feel their bite and I just look at them to see how much I can take and when I flick them away I don't welt up or even feel a itch after.
Wolvenvacht
11-05-14, 09:55
High doses of vitamin B12 are supposed to keep them away from you as well, with out the harsh chemicals and bad smells."Supposedly" but a 2005 study laid that claim to rest (http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/6390/is-vitamin-b12-an-effective-mosquito-repellent http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.2987/8756-971X%282005%2921%5B213%3aTVBAAH%5D2.0.CO;2) and although further research was suggested it did not seem to have happened. You can bet your bottom dollar that if there was a tiny shred of even doubtful evidence that (any) vitamin works as a mosquito repellent, it would be all over us on the Internet, sponsored by the vitamin-supplement industry.
Wolvenvacht
11-05-14, 09:59
Out here in the Darkside away from the City, Hotels and such the black mosquitoes are all over the place and after all these years I could feel their bite and I just look at them to see how much I can take and when I flick them away I don't welt up or even feel a itch after.They still bite you, so B12 is not effective as a repellent.
LittleBigMan
11-05-14, 12:17
They still bite you, so B12 is not effective as a repellent.Correct they do bite you, I just do not welt up or itch. I can actually see and feel them biting and when I had enough I just smack the shit out of them. I've been to some real dump Thai places to eat and even sleep with Thais and they are complaining about Mosquitoes biting them. If they hadn't mention it I would not have know?
As for Malaria, there are hundred of cases in Pattaya (Chon Buri) regarding Dengue Fever each year that the City officials keep under the wrap because they want the tourist to keep on coming. Never put any stuff on I don't even think about it I just go on my daily stuff everyday. But I see some tourist from time to time as if the mosquitoes had a buffet on their leg?
Next time I come to Thailand I am going to buy one of those sleeping nets to sleep in. Every night I am getting eaten alive by mosquitoes. I definitely recommend it.I spent over 2 weeks in Thailand, half in Bangkok and the other half in Pattaya and can't remember ever getting bit by mosquitoes. Two different hotels, neither had issues with mosquitoes at night, but neither hotel had balcony's or windows to open that would let in the bugs. So have to wonder if your staying at hotels that have balconys and not keeping the door shut? And not sure how a sleeping net would work with a cute Thai girl curled up next to you, it would ruin the mood for some late night booty call.
Wolvenvacht
11-05-14, 17:53
I spent over 2 weeks in Thailand, half in Bangkok and the other half in Pattaya and can't remember ever getting bit by mosquitoes. Two different hotels, neither had issues with mosquitoes at night, but neither hotel had balcony's or windows to open that would let in the bugs. So have to wonder if your staying at hotels that have balconys and not keeping the door shut? And not sure how a sleeping net would work with a cute Thai girl curled up next to you, it would ruin the mood for some late night booty call.The whole idea of a sleeping net is that it hangs over the sides of the bed and does not touch you, because then the mosquitoes can still reach you. So both you and your darling are both safely inside of the same net. Ain't that soooo romantic?
The whole idea of a sleeping net is that it hangs over the sides of the bed and does not touch you, So both you and your darling are both safely inside Ain't that soooo romantic?YES, it is. :D
YES, it is. :DOK two days plus of talking about mosquitos and mosquito shit is enough. Anyone got anything to say about bars, Massage parlors or women?
ActionOriented
11-06-14, 06:56
Out here in the Darkside away from the City, Hotels ...Going beyond the discussion on mosquitoes in Pattaya (if that's OK with all :D), I wanted to know a little more about the darkside. I have read about the bars / FLs in that area elsewhere (but it wasn't too informative), but would be grateful if someone could provide more information on how to get there, the recommended bars (if any) in this area and the charges in this part of town (or is it dead to any kind of action)? AFAIK no one has yet posted a report on this part of town.
ActionOriented
11-06-14, 07:01
.... I am going to start boycotting places that over charge out of principle to keep cost down for everyone. Otherwise cost will continue to rise. I found there is no difference between the bar girls and independents except the independents are half the cost. You just have to work harder to find them.One man's struggle to control prices, commendable. Generally, I quite agree, the arbitrary nature of bar fine / room usage charge doesn't make a lot of sense.
Going beyond the discussion on mosquitoes in Pattaya (if that's OK with all :D), I wanted to know a little more about the darkside. I have read about the bars / FLs in that area elsewhere (but it wasn't too informative), but would be grateful if someone could provide more information on how to get there, the recommended bars (if any) in this area and the charges in this part of town (or is it dead to any kind of action)? AFAIK no one has yet posted a report on this part of town.There's a very good reason why you won't find a lot of info on this forum about the so-called "dark-side" or, if you will, the under belly of Pattaya. It's because there isn't much good to say about the place. You can get there by going east and crossing Sukhumvit Road. As a rule of thumb you can rely on the fact that the farther East you go in Pattaya the cheaper and less desirable are the accommodations and amenities that the city has to offer.
You can rent a room on the dark side, for example, for as little as 2000 baht per month or even less. Think about it; that's about $2 USD per day for a room. Imagine what you get for that kind of money? The dark side is where the low budget farang expats go to live. That's where you'll find the majority of dishonest, backstabbing, unsavory, often violent characters mentioned on the forum by guys like Goatscrot who don't like Pattaya. The place is a magnet for them. It's also where the low life Thai's live, the kind of Thai folks you probably don't want to meet on your holiday in Pattaya.
There are many bars on the dark side but they don't exactly cater to guys looking for entertainment featuring pretty girls. The dark side is where the Beach Road hookers go when they can no longer find paying customers on Beach Road. You can find bar girls but they are almost always either old or unattractive or both. A low budget tourist or expat can find cheap sex and cheap accommodations there but you get what you pay for. Yes, you can find action but it's depressing to say the least.
Would I recommend the dark side? In a word, no!
ActionOriented
11-06-14, 10:12
Would I recommend the dark side? In a word, no!Many thanks for the report Daddy07, very informative and helpful in clarifying for any one wishing to explore this area. Thankfully, I will not entertain those thoughts anymore based on your inputs.
LittleBigMan
11-06-14, 12:45
The report on the Darkside is not exactly the way it is being told although the bar scene is very true. What is not exactly true is no one area in Pattaya has a exclusive right to being be back stabbers etc. I know and met many of these people being mentioned all over Pattaya including Jomtien. In fact, many of the falangs leaders who poses as legit business people live in the main part of town. You can go in the L. K. Metro area and find plenty of rooms at 2,000 baht, plenty around Pattaya Tai, and plenty just off Jomtien Beach toward Chaiyaipruk. Much of Jomtien Russian mafia resides in that area. When you turn on the news and hear about all the so call accidents people falling off hotels and condo being killed one wonders where the desirable live. In the end, people of all kinds live everywhere and as noted on the Darkside too.
The Darkside has populated area's but the further you go out when you drive the more land there is it goes on and on like forever. Some of the riches people including Falangs live out here. The Siam Country Club a world respected golf course is out here. The massive Thai Polo Club is out here and the owner is a Billionaire. Many of the houses out here go for tens of millions. And sure there is violence but look at the T. V. Reports and Falang Newspaper and most of the problems are in the tourist area. Yes it is cheaper accommodation out here but not everything is a dump and yes people who do not own reside because you get more for your Baht of course that is a individual opinion.
As for the Bars as noted. It is not worth the time or the money to come. Most of them are fresh off the farm and do not know what they are doing and the others old and fat. Once in a while you get a stunner because they do not like the scene in town and they get snapped up right away and sponsor? It is very spotted and Bar open today and close tomorrow as noted not worth the time unless you know how to get around on a bike. And believe it or not many girls I know that work in Go Go on W. S. Live on the Darkside. Darkside is the name of the place but people with Dark hearts and being cheap and unreasonable come from all walks of life and living on the brightside, Jomtien Beach or Wong Amat Beach does not make a bad person Good!
LuvAsianTang
11-07-14, 03:06
There's a very good reason why you won't find a lot of info on this forum about the so-called "dark-side" or, if you will, the under belly of Pattaya. It's because there isn't much good to say about the place. You can get there by going east and crossing Sukhumvit Road. As a rule of thumb you can rely on the fact that the farther East you go in Pattaya the cheaper and less desirable are the accommodations and amenities that the city has to offer.
You can rent a room on the dark side, for example, for as little as 2000 baht per month or even less. Think about it; that's about $2 USD per day for a room. Imagine what you get for that kind of money? The dark side is where the low budget farang expats go to live. That's where you'll find the majority of dishonest, backstabbing, unsavory, often violent characters mentioned on the forum by guys like Goatscrot who don't like Pattaya. The place is a magnet for them. It's also where the low life Thai's live, the kind of Thai folks you probably don't want to meet on your holiday in Pattaya.
There are many bars on the dark side but they don't exactly cater to guys looking for entertainment featuring pretty girls. The dark side is where the Beach Road hookers go when they can no longer find paying customers on Beach Road. You can find bar girls but they are almost always either old or unattractive or both. A low budget tourist or expat can find cheap sex and cheap accommodations there but you get what you pay for. Yes, you can find action but it's depressing to say the least.
Would I recommend the dark side? In a word, no!The last time I was in pattaya I had my first "dark side" experience. It was near the end of my stay so I could only make it there twice. I would agree somewhat with you about quality, but not completely. I went early in the afternoon so the action was slow but I still managed to find a ruby, not a diamond mind you, but a ruby. Although she was not your typical thai spinner, the body type I usually enjoy, she still had a nice firm body and was GFE for the short time we had together in the room upstairs. BBBJ morphing into 69 all positions including a cock ripping cowgirl, (she was so into it that she almost sheared my cock off) LOL ok maybe that's an exaggeration, but you get the picture. Not once did she complain about how long it was taking, she just enjoyed it. I could only make it back to see her one more time, because my girlfriend decided to take the last 4 days of my stay off from her massage job so she could spend them with me.
I found the atmosphere on the dark side to be much more relaxed, I had to ask her if she wanted a drink, with less pressure from mama to make the deal so to speak.
Total price as I remember was 800 THB, 200 THB for the room and 600 THB for the thai pooying. She of course asked for the bright side prices but I lied, (yeah I know, now I'm not going to heaven LOL) and told her all I had was 800 total. She accepted that as if it were a usual amount anyway and off we went to the st room.
Perhaps it did help that I was probably her first cutomer. Most thais won't let first cutomers get away as it's bad luck. I'm sure it helped that I speak enough thai to flirt with her a little and joke, but not necessary. Most thais in the industry know enough tinglish to get the money part completed anyway.
Will I go back to the dark side? Not just yes but Hell yes LOL. Is it for everyone? That would depend on your confidence and ability to survive an unknown experience. Personally I'm an explorer anyway and the dark side was just another venue to " RELEASE THE KRAKEN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb2zIR2rvRQ " and let him have his way with another thai pooying.
My point is that you can find good things no matter which side you are on the dark side or the bright side.
Happy pooning LAT.
Well, I am thrilled to be back in dreamland, I must say, more so as arrivsl day coincided with the festival of lanterns gliding up and colourful floats on the sea.
The first call of the day after checking in to yhe whitehouse condo was made to my long time girl, only to find that she is no longer working, as one of you guys ve set her up in a flat and she is the faithful one for sure, I assure my brother.
But, being the dear that she is, she brings her friend along who was equally good and cooperative, we have a major rock and roll in the bed- before a good lunch at a thai restrt.
My partner AC is down with a cold and is depressed.
So in thecevening we hit walking street, checkout the gogo bars, settle in for a 12 mn show at angelwitch, did not find any one worth taking back even later on in beach road, maybe because of the festival.
Lets see what's in store for today.
Koalie2001
11-07-14, 07:50
I arrived in Pattaya in the evening. Living in the region, it is easy for me to make it to Pattaya or Bangkok on almost a monthly basis. I've been doing this for me than 10 years now.
I Checked into the Marriott, then made my way to Soi 6. Was looking for some 2 girl action. Went down Soi 6 once, then returned back up the Soi and spotted two worthwhile candidates. Not sure which bar, but it was a bar at which the girls wear uniforms. In this case, it was a two piece blue uniform.
After some initial play, the two girls agreed to go upstairs at the standard price of 1300 each, inclusive of the 300 for the bar.
Disrobe, shower and into the room. Girls are friendly and reasonably adept at their job. When choosing younger girls on Soi 6, one can never be too sure that they will approach their work with any enthusiasm or skill. Both gave me a decent blowjob, then I moved onto to banging one. Feeling a bit of energy. I gave it to her for a decent amount of time from several positions. I could see the second girl being a bit disappointed when I did not finish inside the first girl and she now had to enjoy what her co-worker had just enjoyed. In these two girl settings, there is always a hope that the guy will finish when in the first, leading to some easy money for the second.
Finished banging the second girl, and moved onto to some more oral and then handjob action. I was gauging the patience of the girls, which was decently impressive and after about an hour in the room, it was time to finish. Asked them to put on their uniforms, for a little fetish finish, before they gave me a dual handy to bring the first event of the four days to a close.
After this, I returned to the hotel, after getting some milk and light snacks to eat from a minimart. This was an unfortunate choice of food as the milk was tainted and caused me considerable stomach upset for the next 48 hours, which also put a dent in the plans I had laid out for enjoying these four days in Pattaya.
I then went to Walking Street (my stomach had yet to react to the milk) and visited several bars. It was a Sunday, but it was much more disappointing on this Sunday then I had seen in Pattaya for a long time. Almost every bar was bereft of any girl north of a 6. One stunner upstairs in Baccara (if you go for the silicon breasts, thin body, young face and well styled, dyed hair look), but nothing of any substance in any of the other major bars, except for Living Dolls II. Soon rumblings from my stomach meant that the best place for me was back in the hotel.
Next morning, woke in time for the buffet breakfast, at, slept and woke again around 12:30 and braved the discomfort in my belly to head for the Devil's Den. Arrived there at opening at 1:00 pm to face a line-up of 19 girls. Selected Som and Mint, who is new. Both were sporting blond hair. Enjoyed a good 90 minutes with them, not exactly GFE but it was a session filled with technical excellence. First, 30 minutes of oral, split by 15 minutes by each (side note: the timer on the DVD player is a great way to keep track of time), followed by the first round of boom boom with both, then more oral, and then more fucking. Mint was a much better girl to bang than Som, as she seemed more receptive to the action. Before entering her for the third round, gave her a bit of oral, on a pussy that had yet to show the signs of wear and tear that can come from months or years of work at DD. The end was supposed to be a nice facial for Som, but she resisted, so instead it was blow to in mouth finish while standing, while Mint kissed and otherwise stimulated me. The mirrors in the room made a great visual for a strong finish, that nearly knocked me out.
Returned to the hotel, room service, sleep, continued discomfort, sadly and with wound to my pride, did not make it out in the night, and stayed in the room for the next 24 hours.
Day 3 was a return to Soi 6. Up and down the street, Saigon Girl looked promising for some dual action, with half a dozen younger than normal girls seated outside. But at a bar on the same side of the Soi as Saigon Girl, but much closer to Beach Road, saw a small mid-20 ish girl with short hair, and a stellar sexy ass and boobs. Never been in this bar before, but decided to take her upstairs after her friendly introduction to herself. Good decision.
Did the normal to prepare for the action, notable when I threw a condom and KY on the bed, she responded by throwing a half dozen of her own condoms on the bed. She was cute as expected but with a minor baby belly (stretch marks) albeit thin with a fair set of breasts. She begins with an extended oral session, followed by some voluntary rimming, and not just a few licks, but of the gold digging action variety. I followed with my own oral, and she responded with a small squirting orgasm. Hardly any need for KY now, but condom 1 is on and time to begin. Test her out a bit, and see she is up for some serious action on the bed and I give it to her with vigour. She has no problem with it. I pull out, oral on her again, another small orgasm and onto condom 2. Same serious of action, but bang her a bit harder and still no problem. Oral again, condom 3, go at it again, but accidentally squeeze her tricep between my hand and the bed causing her some pain (no bruising). She's not happy, and I thought that might be the end of it, but the trouper continues. Go to oral again, but she's had enough, so some handwork from her, oral from her, but that's not going to do it for me, so I straddled her chest, work myself over her face, no problem for her, and I finish with a nice facial, that does not faze her at all. Collapse on the bed, rest, she says, 'you like rough sex'. It is not so rough, as much as vigorous, I would say, but to each their own.
Back to the hotel, eat, rest gym, and onto walking street again, but still highly disappointing. I hope this is just an aberration for this visit, given some bad timing, but many bars including sensations, and heaven's above, among others just did not have it going. Moreover, the street itself was characterized by large groups and small packs of tourists, too many of whom are toting video cams while they peruse the scene on the street, definitely not a good vibe on the street or in its bars.
Nothing else happens that night. Day 4 begins slowly and soon it is night, and it is time to see if LK Metro holds any more promise. Simple answer is no. Hopefully, it is not a case of the population pyramid of Thailand (http://populationpyramid.net/thailand/) oddly shaped like a condom, finally catching up to this fine industry, but the number of people in the 20-30 range is about 60% of that in the 30-40 range, and the numbers only get worse.
After LK Metro, I take a walk to [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s bypassing many massage+ shops along the walk. Grab one girl at the entrance, who then encourages me to take another one to do a double action. No problem, so we go with that. Each takes their turn to take care of me for a couple of times, before I suggest that rather working individually, they work on me together. Doing so brings the mission to an end successfully, with another 30 minutes being well spent. 600 baht each and 200 baht tip each as payment.
Back to the hotel, inspect my funds, and I am way under budget. Having been waylaid for a couple of days by my stomach and not seeing anything worthwhile in the bars, kept the costs down considerably.
Feeling better this evening, I return to walking street. Straight to Living Dolls II, but for whatever reason do not drink with any of the many attractive girls inside the bar. Return to many other of the more reputable places, but nothing of substance happening. Decide to go to What's Up (if it is still called that now). Decent selection, I sit down to drink water and within 15 minutes couple of dancers want to drink with me. I know this bar is anything but cheap (by Thai standards) but I figure can't be cheap all the time. I buy some drinks for them, which naturally perks other girls' radar and soon I go from Mr Lonely to Mr Popular. I decide to see how this will play out, and soon I am buying drinks for waitresses, and some of the MILF dancers (the ones who wear the mesh outfits, and are more curvy and older than the other dancers). 3 or 4 hours later it is 3 am, and I close my bill (12,000 baht for those who are interested, yes, I know a waste in many ways, but it was done with full intention). I turn to one of the girls beside me who was not giving me much of a good vibe (even with all the drinks) but she had a stellar body, ideal thai thin fit type, but she had no interest to be barfined (claiming she had only been working in the bar for 6 days). I next turn to a MILF dancer to ask if she barfines. She looks surprised. Mama-San comes buy and writes 3000 baht barfine. Ok, I say, wanting to see how this plays out. She then writes, 10,000 baht to the girl. So only 13,000 baht for a MILF who is not even in the top half of the best looking girls in the bar. It is this price because she is a Bangkok model. No chance, so I leave the bar.
Still many other bars open, but instead look in some discos. I go in Marine. Spot a blonde woman, early 30's, thin body, but clearly not someone you want to see in daylight. Buy her a drink, she dances against my junk, feels me up, I ask her if she wants to go to the hotel, she says sure, but still dances and drinks. 20 minutes later (and 45 minutes into being in the bar, it is now past 4 am, and my taxi is at 8 am), I say let's go, she says no, so I say bye. Walking out of Marine Disco and two small early 20's girls coming up the stairs. They look at me, I look at them, they look at me. They ask, where you go, I say my hotel. They still look. I ask them to come with me. Both? Yes. They talk to each other, but don't want both, so I take 1 to go, and we go by bike taxi back to the Marriott. We get to my room, and I now see this girl is drunk and tired. She's lying on the bed, nearly passed out. I ask if she is ok, she says fine. I shower. Then she goes to shower, to makes tons of retching sounds in the toiler. I tell her to go home, she says no. I figure she must really want this 1200 baht. Finally she comes out of the shower, clean and nice smelling as a thai girl can be. Two ways of oral, then we start on the main event, and she can barely stay awake. Let me sleep she asks, one hour only, then we can boom boom. I doubt her, thinking once she is out she will be out. Try to do it a bit more, but the only thing worse than a starfish is a drunk starfish. Not it is almost 6 am. Ok, sleep I say. Boom, she is out. I pack take care of some emails. Watch TV and wake her up shortly after 7. Surprisingly, she is good to go. We have a nice session, she performs much better, finishes me with a superbly executed handjob, while giving me a nice view of her fine body.
We shower again, dress and she acts like a truly delicate and sweet girl as we walk out to reception. What a find, I am thinking to myself.
Pattaya – never know what to expect, but it will always deliver something new and something fun.
Member #4535
11-07-14, 13:21
Well, I am thrilled to be back in dreamland, I must say, more so as arrivsl day coincided with the festival of lanterns gliding up and colourful floats on the sea.
The first call of the day after checking in to yhe whitehouse condo was made to my long time girl, only to find that she is no longer working, as one of you guys ve set her up in a flat and she is the faithful one for sure, I assure my brother.
But, being the dear that she is, she brings her friend along who was equally good and cooperative, we have a major rock and roll in the bed- before a good lunch at a thai restrt.
My partner AC is down with a cold and is depressed.
So in thecevening we hit walking street, checkout the gogo bars, settle in for a 12 mn show at angelwitch, did not find any one worth taking back even later on in beach road, maybe because of the festival.
Lets see what's in store for today.Waiting for your detailed reports so I can plan mine! Do visit Devils Den if you can!
Raj
Moreover, the street itself was characterized by large groups and small packs of tourists, too many of whom are toting video cams while they peruse the scene on the street, definitely not a good vibe on the street or in its bars.The Disneyfication of Walking Street continues.
After this, I returned to the hotel, after getting some milk and light snacks to eat from a minimart. This was an unfortunate choice of food as the milk was tainted and caused me considerable stomach upset for the next 48 hours, which also put a dent in the plans I had laid out for enjoying these four days in Pattaya.I've been spending 2 months a year in Pattaya for the last 8 years, and I drink milk every day, and thankfully I've never had any problems. Now I'm starting to worry about the quality of the milk. What makes you think that it was the milk rather than something else? I'm not doubting you in any way; you've just made me a bit nervous.
Thanks in advance for your reply.
Reiner Otto
11-07-14, 21:16
Mama-San comes buy and writes 3000 baht barfine. Ok, I say, wanting to see how this plays out. She then writes, 10,000 baht to the girl. So only 13,000 baht for a MILF who is not even in the top half of the best looking girls in the bar. It is this price because she is a Bangkok model. They start to be absolutely crazy. The best stunner from Irons, I had last year, was 3000+1000, LT.
Bbullersen
11-07-14, 22:37
Hi all,
It's been a while, and I am going to Pattaya here in December.
I was wondering on Massage parlors with fun. I know that there are many around Pattaya, but I am looking for that can be compared to some of those in Bangkok Sukhumvit in the Soi 20's area. Something like Cherry Massage or Mango Massage for example.
Preferably with websites like those mentioned above.
Any recommendations?
Thanks,
BB
Mr Enternational
11-08-14, 00:57
I've been spending 2 months a year in Pattaya for the last 8 years, and I drink milk every day, and thankfully I've never had any problems. Now I'm starting to worry about the quality of the milk. What makes you think that it was the milk rather than something else? I'm not doubting you in any way; you've just made me a bit nervous.The funny part to me is a grown man drinking milk. And why not visit the pharmacy. They could have given him something to clear it up in half a day.
LittleBigMan
11-08-14, 03:22
Not sure if it is the milk, what I have found even going to 7/11 is always check the date. I've on many occasion seen the date close to expiration? Whenever I buy milk product I pull the stock from the back. The manner in which it is handle can be a problem even if the date has not expired? I've seen products left out for extended periods in the heat then place back on the shelf and one wonder how many times this has happen prior to getting to the shelf. Milk product I'm always careful never had a problem but a few friends I knowhad their whole trip ruined?
Koalie2001
11-08-14, 13:59
I've been spending 2 months a year in Pattaya for the last 8 years, and I drink milk every day, and thankfully I've never had any problems. Now I'm starting to worry about the quality of the milk. What makes you think that it was the milk rather than something else? I'm not doubting you in any way; you've just made me a bit nervous.
Thanks in advance for your reply.I hadn't eaten anything else for about 8 hours before that, so I could only pinpoint it as being the milk. It did not taste off, but I never looked at the expiry date. I should have been attuned to the possibility that the milk was past its expiry date, given that half the girls working in the go-gos on that night were past their own expiry date for such employment.
A pharmacy trip would have been the smart thing to do to clear things up. No reason not to have gone and worse is that there are no shortage of pharmacies in Pattaya.
I hadn't eaten anything else for about 8 hours before that, so I could only pinpoint it as being the milk. It did not taste off, but I never looked at the expiry date. I should have been attuned to the possibility that the milk was past its expiry date, given that half the girls working in the go-gos on that night were past their own expiry date for such employment.
A pharmacy trip would have been the smart thing to do to clear things up. No reason not to have gone and worse is that there are no shortage of pharmacies in Pattaya.Did it ever cross your mind that it is not the milk at the 7-11 and maybe you feel sick after being with one of the many hookers in Pattaya? LOL. One of the safest places you can buy or eat anything in Pattaya is at the 7-11's. I have never seen them have expired things out for sale.
Before I ever travel to thailand. I make sure to pack first Charcoal capsules that can be bought at any health food store. This absorbs any poisons in the body. Second, I bring a body detox capsules that make you go the bathroom a lot.
I saw on Friday two things I have never ever seen before in Thailand.
1. I saw a 24 year old white dike appeared to be american picking up a Thai girl for a short time on beach Road. I was about 10 feet away. I was so tempted to tell the dike that I will pay for her session if I can just watch. But, I sensed she was one of those that just hate men. She was about a 5 in a scale of 1-10 and in decent shape.
2. I saw a white guy about 48 years old with a beautiful 23 year old white girl. She was blond hair and blue eyes and was a knockout. I at first thought that she was his daughter but she was with him as a lover. I don't think she was a hooker. They both together picked up this dirty Thai hooker on beach street. The Thai hooker was like 24 years old also. WTF!
There was a bar I picked up a chick to do a short time with. Everyday I walk by that bar the girls waves at me. Tonight I walk toward the bar because I wanted to drink with her. She was with a customer. As soon as she saw me she immediately put her drink down and ran over to me. I asked her if she wants to drink together and she quickly agreed. The manager started yelling at her and told her she can't switch customers and to go back to her original customer. I told her it was cool we hugged and I left. Its always hard to know what is real in Thailand.
If you come to Thailand download Line to your iPhone. For me this is the best way to hook up with them again. Because when you find a girl and you two separate. If she is hot just assume you will never ever see her again. Even if you try to find her the next day. Got to get her line contact. I don't like Thai numbers unless I have a Thai cell number.
Hello guys,
2 weeks back from 3 weeks Pattaya and 1 week BKK.
Since this is the Pattaya section:
Unless they invent something better, my goal is to go to Pattaya 3 times a year. Until now I've been there 4 times. My knowledge scratches the surface.
Wait till you read my story.
The first days it was like getting back in heaven again. I made a little to-do-list. No plans, only a list.
In this forum I read how it's not how it used to be, that there are no nice girls anymore, that its' all about the money. I've seen many many stunning girls in Pattaya. Ugly ones too, but the choice is just immense. The girls in agogo's like Baracca, Sensations, Iron. Oh my god. Young spinners who work in massage parlours on Soi buakhao and Soi Honey. And beer bars where there is at least 1 gem in every bar. I think you guys here are spoiled.
My "plan" was not to fall for the beer bar trap again. 5 years ago I fall in love with a beer bar girl, B,. I sent her money, I tried to get her a visa, didn't work, we broke up, the normal pattern.
Nowadays I go to massage parlours or ask tel numbers from "normal" girls like receptionists, waitresses etc. Easier than it seems. And much fun.
Through this forum however I met a guy from Holland. He practically lives over there and invited me to make a tour of beer bars and agogo's.
We made it to the 2nd beer bar. And we were sold.
My list was ok. I went to Soi 6. I had a few threesomes with beach road-girls. I went out with the receptionist of my hotel. I had a few dates with massage parlour girls.
I even used the services of FL's from Insomnia etc. Had a great time.
But the beer bargirl from soi 10 stayed in my mind. (nan).
I had to leave her, the 3-day rule was broken. It became 7 days. In which I met her parents too (I was the first one, she said hahahaha). I went to BKK, where I had fun for another week with many good and bad girls.
Is it my greediness (I am single now for 10 months. Never experienced this before. I come out of a relationship with a Thai teacher from my country (2 year)), my age (46), self-illusion (99%) ?
I want to take care of my beer bargirl. We Skype. She doesn't want money. She is a big earner I m sure (but I don't care, I don't want a boring normal girl). Only. How?? Is she crazy? Damaged for life?. Are my feelings too stupid?.
I realise maybe I m in the wrong section.
Anyway. Be warned don't fall in love. Become the hunter, not the victim. And if you do, act like a teenager who doesn't have money. My god, Thai culture is in my blood even though I don't understand a f* about how to behave over there.
I learned some Thai words (5000). But it's better not to speak Thai at all, because they will think you are intelligent enough to take advantage of them.
On Beach road you can be a prostitute, on walking street not, or you will get punished. If there are 20,000 girls every day (1 out of 4) who fuck for 1000 baht, how big is the mafia over there?
If you fall in love with a girl who is in an "Mengda"-situation, you're f* (she has a BF, she loves him very much, she pays everything for him, . And you sponsor this).
Beerbargirls are like psychologists with 5 degrees and still I fall for them.
Hello all,
This is my long overdue no report from my trip last May. I spent three days in Bangkok and seven days in Batavia. I probably did over 30 girls in that time. Overall, it was a great time. For those interested in rates: 85% were 1000 Thai Baht 10% were eight hundred Thai Baht and 5% were six hundred Thai Baht for a short time. I did one long time 1200 baht and 2 soap massage for 1500 and 1800 baht. All the girls were 6-9 scale. All of them were freelancers or Soi 6 or disco club girls. I only had for bad experiences, one being a hidden tummy with stretch marks, 2 being menstruating girls I hate that, and one complaining that I was too big and doing it too long. To be honest I do end up doing them for at least 40 minutes each. I didn't do any go go girls or beer bar girls as I hate paying the bar fine.
It was an incredible experience and I am going back again at the end of February. In Pattaya I stayed at the White House condo for 1500 baht a night includes breakfast. I would highly recommend it.
Here are my recommendations 4 newbies: my favorite are the beach road girls and the disco bar girls. If you just want eye candy or just to waste a few hours go to the gogos. Soy six is a great place if you can find a gem though the experiences are a bit mechanical. Be polite to the lady boys but kindly decline their offers. Be careful what you eat or you may have the runs for a few days. To be safe just go to subways or McDonalds or some other Americanized restaurant.
In February I plan on going to the Castle but I am a bit turned off by the 900 baht cover. I also understand that getting a girl there is in the neighborhood of 2,000 baht short time on premises. The reason I am going there as I have a fantasy of doing a girl while she is tied up. I think you can do that there. Does anyone have any info on the castle?
Spent three days in Bangkok and seven days in Pattaya last may. Incredible experience! Did over 30 girls. Only 4 bad experiences. Two were menstruating 1 had a tummy that was well hidden and one complained that I was too big and took too long. For those interested in prices, 85 percent of them were 1000 baht 10% were 800 baht and 5% were 600 baht. All the girls were a 6 through 9 on a 10 scale. I also did one long time for 1200 baht and 2 soap massages for 1500 baht and 1800 baht. I did not do any go go girls or beer bar girls as I hate paying the bar fine. I only did freelancers and disco girls. I highly recommend the White House condo at 1500 baht a night includes breakfast.
Going back again in February. I want to try the Castle but the 900 baht entry fee seems ridiculous. Also I understand it is 2000 baht short time inside but I have a fetish of doing a girl while she is tied up. Does anyone have any info on the castle?
Hello guys
My "plan" was not to fall for the beer bar trap again. 5 years ago I fall in love with a beer bar girl, be,. I sent her money, I tried to get her a visa, didn't work, we broke up, the normal pattern.
But the beer bargirl from soi 10 stayed in my mind. (nan).
I had to leave her, the 3-day rule was broken. It became 7 days. In which I met her parents too (I was the first one, she said hahahaha). I went to BKK, where I had fun for another week with many good and bad girls.
Is it my greediness (I am single now for 10 months. Never experienced this before. I come out of a relationship with a Thai teacher from my country (2 year)), my age (46), self-illusion (99%) ?
I want to take care of my beer bargirl. We Skype. She doesn't want money. She is a big earner I m sure (but I don't care, I don't want a boring normal girl). Only. How?? Is she crazy? Damaged for life?. Are my feelings too stupid?.
I realise maybe I m in the wrong section.
Anyway. Be warned don't fall in love. Become the hunter, not the victim. And if you do, act like a teenager who doesn't have money.
Beerbargirls are like psychologists with 5 degrees and still I fall for them.Since you obviously didn't learn anything the first time around and you know the deal, enjoy the ride until you crash again.
Hello guys,
2 weeks back from 3 weeks Pattaya and 1 week BKK.
Since this is the Pattaya section:
Unless they invent something better, my goal is to go to Pattaya 3 times a year. Until now I've been there 4 times. My knowledge scratches the surface.
Wait till you read my story.
The first days it was like getting back in heaven again. I made a little to-do-list. No plans, only a list.
In this forum I read how it's not how it used to be, that there are no nice girls anymore, that its' all about the money. I've seen many many stunning girls in Pattaya. Ugly ones too, but the choice is just immense. The girls in agogo's like Baracca, sensations, iron. Oh my god. Young spinners who work in massage parlours on Soi buakhao and Soi honey. And beer bars where there is at least 1 gem in every bar. I think you guys here are spoiled...Cosmic,
When you say it "better not to speak Thai at all because they worry we will be smart to take advantage of them" You have it wrong. LOL. Thai woman have a lot of secrets. They hate it when a man can speak Thai because they worry we will catch them in their s- But, forget about what they think. If you can learn some Thai. Good for you! Many can't speak English and if you want to drink with a hot chick but can communicate it is very uncomfortable. Especially with newbies. There have been many books written about Thai working woman. The conclusion is always the same. It is usually the guy that is being taken advantage of. The amazing ability of Thai working girls is that they can make you feel like long lost lovers within 30 minutes. They are experts in men. They have studied us and that is their whole job. For as sweet an charming as these girls are just don't believe it. Have fun and don't think it is real. LOL.
I went out with the receptionist of my hotel.And was it then embarrassing each time you brought a girl back to your room?
My "plan" was not to fall for the beer bar trap again. 5 years ago I fall in love with a beer bar girl, B,. I sent her money, I tried to get her a visa, didn't work, we broke up, the normal pattern.
I had to leave her, the 3-day rule was broken. It became 7 days. In which I met her parents too (I was the first one, she said hahahaha). I went to BKK, where I had fun for another week with many good and bad girls.
Is it my greediness (I am single now for 10 months. Never experienced this before. I come out of a relationship with a Thai teacher from my country (2 year)), my age (46), self-illusion (99%) ?
I want to take care of my beer bargirl. We Skype. She doesn't want money. She is a big earner I m sure (but I don't care, I don't want a boring normal girl). Only. How?? Is she crazy? Damaged for life?. Are my feelings too stupid?.
I realise maybe I m in the wrong section.The very definition of insanity is doing the same thing expecting a different result.
Hello all,
This is my long overdue no report from my trip last May. I spent three days in Bangkok and seven days in Batavia.Thank you for your report. I like the Whitehouse too and would recommend it especially to first time travelers to Pattaya. Good value and great location. You are the only person I know that refers to Jakarta as Batavia.
So I go out walking around Pattaya looking for girls. I see a beer bar. One girl grabs me but I like another girl there so I walk in and start talk with her. I ask her about short time. For what ever reasons she did not really walk to go to the short time room with me. But I finally talk her into it. We get to the room and I start to undress and she just stares at me. I fell something is not right. I say well? She will not undress then tells me she does not want to take off her top? What is this Tijuana? F- this I put my cloths back on and leave. As I was leaving I was a little worried something was going to happen like the one lady boy that was working there was going to hit me. It was a weird energy there and the lady boy was giving me an attitude before I went with the girl. Ok this night is not starting off good.
I then walk to a massage place a block away off 2nd Road near Tipp plaza. Pick a girl 700 for girl 200 for room. Very nice GFE time. Was not rushed at all. As I leave this place I walk 20 feet past all these massage places and bars and this very cute 19 year old calls me over. She speak zero English. I get her to do a short time with the help of a translator. Supposedly its her first day. I pay 300 bar fine and off we go. We walk to my hotel and get in my room. I hand her a towel to shower as I undress. I sense something is wrong. She gets out the google translator and what it says did not make sense but what did make sense was she had a stomach ache and needed food. So I take her to get food. I did not eat but she ordered two dishes. The bill came two 430 baut. So I ask her if she feels better and she says yes her stomach is better. So we walk to my place again and half way down my street she asks where we are going. I say boom boom. She says she can't she has her period. WTF. SO we are walking back toward her bar and she asks for my number. Like I am a sucker. I start to see what the scam is. She walking to a bar 3 bars away from the one she works and starts to hang out with friends. I make her walk back to her bar with me. She did not really understand why I had her take me to her bar. I made it seem like I wanted to remember where she worked. We walk in and I immediately tell the manager I want my 300 bar fine back. This girl has her period. The manager says just come back into days and she will be finished not giving me my money back. I say ok but I want my money back now. The manager reluctantly gives it too me. The 19 year old now would not even look at me. She just wanted me to bar fine her so she did not have to work. She thought I was a sucker! Well I am not. She did hustle me for over 400 baut in food. Maybe she tried to tell me in the google translate but it did not say period. I don't know. She should have not left the bar or even be working if she is on her period.
I now head to beach street. Find two hot chicks standing together. Both playing a video game on their phone. I offer her 700 and she says she will not go unless I give her 1000. She is playing the game as she is talking to me. Then she starts bitching about well how far is your hotel. A 5 minutes walk? That is far. I need taxi. I just walked away.
I picked another girl 700 baut very nice body. We get back to my place and she basically closed her eyes and looked the other way. She did not rush me with her mouth. It was her attitude that looked like she could not wait to get out of there. She hates her job ect. Too bad.
I pick another one on Beach Road to get me in a better mood. 700 baut. Very nice body. Great attitude. We get to my place and she wants me to take a shower with her ect. Great experience.
Since you obviously didn't learn anything the first time around and you know the deal, enjoy the ride until you crash again.I know I know. And I appreciate you guys for trying to protect me. Instead of forgetting her I booked a flight for 20 November. Imagine. My plan is to surprise her!
Can become a big surprise for me. The rest of the plan: I tell her I don't pay her. She can stay with me or not. If she needs money, she can go to work. I will meet other girls. If she will stay with me. OK up to her to take action. I came back to discuss our future not to buy her body. Good plan? (Feel free to criticise please) I think she s not "corrupted" yet. I want to give it a try. I realise chances are small. But cannot give up. Have to act quickly.
And was it then embarrassing each time you brought a girl back to your room?The day after she went home for 5 days during which I broke up with her.
So I go out walking around Pattaya looking for girls. I see a beer bar. One girl grabs me but I like another girl there so I walk in and start talk with her. I ask her about short time. For what ever reasons she did not really walk to go to the short time room with me. But I finally talk her into it. We get to the room and I start to undress and she just stares at me. I fell something is not right. I say well? She will not undress then tells me she does not want to take off her top? What is this Tijuana? F- this I put my cloths back on and leave. As I was leaving I was a little worried something was going to happen like the one lady boy that was working there was going to hit me. It was a weird energy there and the lady boy was giving me an attitude before I went with the girl. Ok this night is not starting off good.
I then walk to a massage place a block away off 2nd Road near Tipp plaza. Pick a girl 700 for girl 200 for room. Very nice GFE time. Was not rushed at all. As I leave this place I walk 20 feet past all these massage places and bars and this very cute 19 year old calls me over. She speak zero English. I get her to do a short time with the help of a translator. Supposedly its her first day. I pay 300 bar fine and off we go. We walk to my hotel and get in my room. I hand her a towel to shower as I undress. I sense something is wrong. She gets out the google translator and what it says did not make sense but what did make sense was she had a stomach ache and needed food. So I take her to get food. I did not eat but she ordered two dishes. The bill came two 430 baut. So I ask her if she feels better and she says yes her stomach is better. So we walk to my place again and half way down my street she asks where we are going. I say boom boom. She says she can't she has her period. WTF. SO we are walking back toward her bar and she asks for my number. Like I am a sucker. I start to see what the scam is. She walking to a bar 3 bars away from the one she works and starts to hang out with friends. I make her walk back to her bar with me. She did not really understand why I had her take me to her bar. I made it seem like I wanted to remember where she worked. We walk in and I immediately tell the manager I want my 300 bar fine back. This girl has her period. The manager says just come back into days and she will be finished not giving me my money back. I say ok but I want my money back now. The manager reluctantly gives it too me. The 19 year old now would not even look at me. She just wanted me to bar fine her so she did not have to work. She thought I was a sucker! Well I am not. She did hustle me for over 400 baut in food. Maybe she tried to tell me in the google translate but it did not say period. I don't know. She should have not left the bar or even be working if she is on her period.
I now head to beach street. Find two hot chicks standing together. Both playing a video game on their phone. I offer her 700 and she says she will not go unless I give her 1000. She is playing the game as she is talking to me. Then she starts bitching about well how far is your hotel. A 5 minutes walk? That is far. I need taxi. I just walked away.
I picked another girl 700 baut very nice body. We get back to my place and she basically closed her eyes and looked the other way. She did not rush me with her mouth. It was her attitude that looked like she could not wait to get out of there. She hates her job ect. Too bad.
I pick another one on beach Road to get me in a better mood. 700 baut. Very nice body. Great attitude. We get to my place and she wants me to take a shower with her ect. Great experience.If you have to talk a girl into fucking you something is wrong. It should be the other way around. You should have walked.
If you have to buy a girl 400 bht worth of food before she fucks you, something is wrong. Especially since they can get a meal for 30 bht. You should of went back and got your money before the feeding.
If a girl won't look up from her phone game to talk to you, don't wait for her demands, walk.
WTF man, is this your first rodeo? Get you some interview skills to weed out the losers.
Be careful what you eat or you may have the runs for a few days. To be safe just go to subways or McDonalds or some other Americanized restaurant.
Dude, Thailand has a kitchen that's rated no. 1 by many people all over the world and you are advising American fastfood? Having the runs for a few days every now and then is all part of the game. Personally I think I would get the runs from that greasy fastfood.
If you have to talk a girl into fucking you something is wrong. It should be the other way around. You should have walked.
If you have to buy a girl 400 bht worth of food before she fucks you, something is wrong. Especially since they can get a meal for 30 bht. You should of went back and got your money before the feeding.
If a girl won't look up from her phone game to talk to you, don't wait for her demands, walk.
WTF man, is this your first rodeo? Get you some interview skills to weed out the losers.When your right your right. It was me that picked the restaurant mainly because it was close to my hotel and I just wanted to get her back to my room. If you would have seen this chicks body. I could not think right. She was so cute.
I left out the best part. When I walk on the street and its busy. After every five feet I look behind me to scan for motor bikes. They will zig zag between tourists sometimes. Well last night even though I was walking on the side of the street. I stopped scanning behind me. Next thing I know a motor bike hits me. Now it was going only 10 mph and hits me. I did not get hit with the wheel but the side of the bike. The lady did not even say sorry. WTF? At that point I had flashes in my head of kicking her bike to the ground, or grabbing her bike and pushing it to the ground. Then I had visions of the Thai police takes me to the police station ect. So I did nothing. At least I did not get hurt because it could have been a lot worse.
I know I know. And I appreciate you guys for trying to protect me. Instead of forgetting her I booked a flight for 20 November. Imagine. My plan is to surprise her!
Can become a big surprise for me. The rest of the plan: I tell her I don't pay her. She can stay with me or not. If she needs money, she can go to work. I will meet other girls. If she will stay with me. OK up to her to take action. I came back to discuss our future not to buy her body. Good plan? (Feel free to criticise please) I think she s not "corrupted" yet. I want to give it a try. I realise chances are small. But cannot give up. Have to act quickly.'Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. ' Albert Einstein.
Toumai
I know I know. And I appreciate you guys for trying to protect me. Instead of forgetting her I booked a flight for 20 November. Imagine. My plan is to surprise her!
Can become a big surprise for me. The rest of the plan: I tell her I don't pay her. She can stay with me or not. If she needs money, she can go to work. I will meet other girls. If she will stay with me. OK up to her to take action. I came back to discuss our future not to buy her body. Good plan? (Feel free to criticise please) I think she s not "corrupted" yet. I want to give it a try. I realise chances are small. But cannot give up. Have to act quickly.Really bad plan. She is a bar girl, and you think she "is not corrupted"? Well, I guess that depends on your definition of "not corrupted". But this will not end happily for you. For a start you will pay her. She will have a very good story as to why she needs some money now, even just a loan. And you will think, 'I have so much and she has so little', that you will pay her. And whatever plans you make, she will agree with. And she will keep on agreeing whilst you keep paying. Perhaps you will pay for a visa, and an airline ticket, and a 'dowry'. But it is very unlikely that you will end up with a contented Thai wife back in your home country.
So my last day in Pattaya. Had good experiences all day with girls. The last one I picked up on Beach street was independent she was flashing her butt at one of her friends and I thought she was wild. She only asked for 700 Baut. She says 21 but more like 23-24. Who knows. We get back to my room for boom boom. We did do all positions it probably lasted 10 minutes then all of the sudden she jumps up and says she's done he pussy hurts from fucking. I could understand if I was hitting bottom of her pussy but I was not. I did not really know how to act. Should I give her 500 baut instead of the 700? You know I had stuff all over my room and did not want any issues with her grabbing them or breaking something. So I just had the 700 waiting on her purse when she got out of shower. Talked with her about how messed up that was. Her English was perfect. That never happened to me before.
My best friend had an incident one time with a time girl. I can't remember what it was and refused to pay her. She called the police the police came and it was either pay or go to the station. So he paid.
Late at night I was not going to argue over the 200 baut I was thinking of holding back. Now if it was 1000 baut I would have held back money but 700 I guess its ok. I just worry because I gave her the full 700 she will do this to another guy.
'Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. ' Albert Einstein.
Toumai£ yeah but Einstein is dead and I'm not. The men who say that I am so stupid. Probably right, but. Are you guys happily married? Or happily mongering? Or happy whatsoever? Tell me how to do it. Give me the alternative. I have been dating in Europe. It's hell, believe me. And. The single life until now really suits me (so why look for sth, still cannot explain.). This was a flash. Something I cannot give up.
I am sure. I will not pay for her. Maybe after I know that she wants to be in a "relationship". In Europe I had some bad experiences that cost me money as well. And maybe after 5 days we will have a fight and break up and I'll go back to my mongering business as usual, accepting the fact that it's written in the stars that I have to be alone forever. (maybe better).
I can live with that. Right now I have the (ridiculous) feeling that she's the one. I have to look her in the face and see what I see.
Somebody give me a pill.
Feelz Good
11-11-14, 00:21
The science of the 80/20 rule.
The old common sense 80/20 Rule is alive and well in Pattaya!
GO-GO"s.
80% of the time if you Bar fine a lady from a "top 25" Go-Go club in Pattaya, you will pay top dollar and get good service that you have negotiated upfront. You should expect at least above average service if you qualified your lady well. Most of the time if she agrees to your advances, she will perform so that a unhappy customer does not come back to the club complaining. Not always, but saving face in the club means everything to these girls. Besides, she is getting top dollar for services and its very lucrative income for a club dancer with no skills and education. Bar fines are usually around 700 baht and up.
20% of the time if you Bar fine a lady from a "top 25" Go-Go club, you will pay top dollar and get below average service that you thought you have already agreed to upfront, and at worse you pick a starfish. It could be her but it also could be you in that you didn't do a good enough job interviewing and qualifying her. Also, remember some of these ladies cannot handle real booze that isn't watered down by the club (I. E. Lady Drinks). So if you take her out and stop somewhere for a drink or dancing before you get to your room, try to just have one drink and off to your room to take care of business or you could end up with something worse, a drunk starfish.
A few factors that impact the 80/20 rule is whether or not you look like Brad Pitt, are drunk or are old, fat or ugly. Interviewing skills will improve your success rate a lot. Also, overpaying and throwing Baht around like it is growing on trees. (I. E. Buying lady drinks for your target and maybe her girlfriends) will not help your cause if you interview her correctly. As in all these scenarios, qualify and re-qualify and usually you won't be disappointed and then you will experience more 80%er's. Remember it's all about the money at least for the first encounter with the lady. If you go back for seconds with the same lady and you treated her good and with respect, and she is happy to see you, some of her defensive start tumbling down and your mileage with her could easily increase and your costs with her should go down outside her bar fine work hours. 80% of these ladies work 7 days a week from 8 PM to 3 AM.
Beer and BJ Bar's.
80% of the time if you Bar fine a young lady from a Beer Bar or BJ Bar in Pattaya, you will pay less than the big Go- Go clubs, but you probably will get poor to average service even though you thought you negotiated services upfront. She won't admit it but it's all about the money. A lot of these young ladies do not speak any language but Thai. It becomes difficult to communicate and qualify. They come and go frequently and a new crop is always surfacing. Maybe she has been in the business a short time. Now we know she isn't a virgin, but sometimes she really doesn't know how to please a man. I am always amazed how a BJ Bar girl really isn't that good at giving BJ's. Just beware it happens, and you will feel used and regret the expense, experience and second guess your personnel patented selection process in future escapades. But maybe it wasn't the lady at all, and it was your interviewing and qualifying skills. Or the Thai language barrier clouded your qualifying her, it happens. Bar fines are usually around 300 baht and up.
20% of the time if you Bar fine a lady from a Beer Bar or BJ Bar in Pattaya, you will pay less than the big Go- Go clubs, and you will get above average to off the charts incredible service, GFE that goes beyond what you have negotiated upfront. She usually is not eye candy that you usually see in the Go-Go's, but sometimes you can find some 9's and 10's, she is a "Diamond in the Rough". You will feel lucky, and your self-esteem will be flying high. Also, we all know someone's perfect pretty woman is someone else's 5 or 6. So, don't let it go to your big head, you either have some good qualifying skills or you were just lucky. Bar fines are around 300 baht and up.
Again, a few factors that impact the 80/20 rule is whether or not you look like Brad Pitt, are drunk or are old, fat or ugly. But not as much a factor as the Top Go-Go clubs. Good interviewing skills will improve your success rate a lot. Also, overpaying and throwing Baht around like it is growing on trees, (I. E. Buying lady drinks for your target and maybe her girlfriends), or agreeing to pay what they ask for without a little negotiating the typical rate at that bar, will seem like it will elevate you and help you in her eyes, but in reality you are a target and being played. It's nothing personal it's all about the money.
Beach road and disco freelancers.
80% of the time if you find a freelancer lady on Beach Road or in one of the Disco's in Pattaya, you will pay less than the big Go- Go clubs, but if it is GFE you are looking for you probably will get poor to average service than you negotiated upfront ("slam bam thank you man" Sometimes these ladies on Beach Road and in the Disco's and after hour clubs are Go-Go dancers that were not picked up that night (you have to wonder why she didn't get bar fined at the Go-Go?) Also, sometimes you can't communicate or negotiate well in the Disco clubs because the music is to loud or for other reasons, and you are gambling for a good experience and flying blind. These ladies are typically clock watchers most of time. She is thinking let's take care of business, usually one pop, and I will be on my way. It's nothing personal it's all about the money.
20% of the time if you find a freelancer lady on Beach Road or in one of the Disco's in Pattaya, or even a waitress at a restaurant you frequent, maybe a hotel worker where you are staying, whatever you will pay way less than the big Go- Go clubs, and you will get above average to incredible service, GFE that goes beyond what you have negotiated upfront. The so-called "Diamond in the Rough". You will feel lucky, and your self-esteem will be flying high. Being a little bold in the Disco's, being charismatic and buying drinks for some pre-qualified prospects sometimes does play a factor. But be on guard, some of these ladies are just after free drinks. Being a good dancer doesn't hurt either.
Again, a few factors that impact the 80/20 rule is whether or not you look like Brad Pitt, are drunk or are old, fat or ugly. Being able to attract women outside of Pattaya, or having a good rap when approaching ladies you don't know, will pay major dividends on Beach Road and the Disco's and after hours clubs. Interviewing skills will improve your success rate a lot. But remember, most of these ladies are dumb and come from very poor provinces in the north. It's not their fault they are dumb it's their education system. So try to understand and do not complicate negotiations. The KISS principle works very well in these situations. But when it comes to street smarts, usually most of these ladies have incredible street smarts in order to survive in their crazy world.
Massage parlors and BJ bars.
See 80/20 Rule of Beach Road and Disco Freelancers above. It is the same except for a few minor exceptions not worth mentioning.
Conclusion and opinions.
The 80/20 rule is just a simplistic way to look at your day to day exploits and help explain them to yourself, oh yea, you either got a 80% experience or a 20% experience no matter where your partner comes from in Pattaya. After she goes out your door you sit back analyze what you ended up with and why. Some of my friends have embraced the 80/20 rule and refer to their ladies as a Go-Go 80%er or maybe she was a Beer Bar 20%er. Without going into much detail, I know what he basically experienced. Sometimes other factors will affect your success but to a lesser degree are (I. E. Speaking a little Thai, personality, your generosity, chemistry with the lady, your grooming, your smell, your breath, the lady's past experience with your nationality or looks, etc.) But, make no mistake, in 100% of all scenarios, don't take yourself to seriously, don't fall in love, it is nothing personal and it's all about the money. The ladies would be considered dumb in our world, but in their crazy world they are academy award actresses and magicians at adding drinks to your bill when you least expect it. Oh yea, no matter where go, watch your drink receipts in your bins. Don't know if it is intentional ("I think it is" but erroneous charges have been known to appear. Also, 80% of these ladies have some kind of sad story. 80% of their sad stories are made up to get sympathy and more Baht from you. 20% of sad stories may be real but don't let them impact your negotiations and mongering. Beware if you are soft soul or sensitive guy because you will be impacted by these sad stories. DO NOT get emotionally tied with these women or you will crash and burn. The ladies are human and they have needs also and get horny from time to time. So your advances and timing might be good or bad just because the way she is feeling at that given time. So, success with a lady in Pattaya has many many different factors. Now my observations are not just mine, but a culmination of my own experiences and also my several conversations with some of my ladies in Pattaya and experienced seasoned Pattaya Mongers who I have met. One of my best sources is a gentleman that I met last year who has been mongering in Pattaya since the early 60's. Things have changed a lot in Pattaya since then, but not the 80/20 rule. You should see the old fart today, with a multitude of health problems, walking hand in hand, with one of his recent exploits ("a 20 ish hottie" wearing a shit eating grin on his face that speaks volumes. So before you disagree with me and attempt to flame me, realize you are a 20%'er whether you know it or not. Because 80% of Pattaya mongers will agree with me and the rule, and 20% of Pattaya mongers won't. It really doesn't matter, remember it's all about the money and having some fun, IMHO the 80/20 rule is alive in Pattaya! Have fun and be safe.
Arrived Friday around 6, quickly to Walking Street to hear some live music (great rock band in a bar just across from Crazy House). Directly next to the live music bar is a tiny hole-in-the-wall bar called "Ring the Bell Bar", and yes, they have a bell. One lady with beautiful legs sitting on the first stool at the entrance, I walked by to check her three times, third time she gives me a great smile, so in I go. Four girls and two ladyboys working this bar. I meet Muk, 40 years old. Good conversation, no pressure for drinks. A few beers later I barfine her 300 Baht, ask her fee for overnight she will only say "up to you". I know this game, but with a 40 year old I think there is truth behind it. We go next door for a few sets of live music, down to street to Tankay for seafood (the grilled shrimp are awesome).
In the hotel we shower, right to the bed. Nearly flat-chested but the most amazing nipples, must be two-inch long! I love the big, long nipples on Asian girls but these were record-setting! Extended DFK, rings my bell as I enjoy the foreplay almost as much as the act. BBBJ, she didn't seem to want to stop, after about 10 minutes I spun her around for DATY, then FS in every position. After, great cuddle, almost non-stop kissing and DFK, she didn't seem very good at the DFK but made up for it with enthusiasm and seemed to get better with some practice.
Next morning, following round 2 and what seemed like endless kissing I put 1,500 in her purse, asked her to breakfast. Then I just kept her. We went to her room for swimming clothes and I took her to the hotel pool. More sex. Back to her bar to bar fine her for a second night, a few beers and repeat of night one. Saturday night almost a duplicate of Friday night. Sunday morning another 1,500 in her purse, breakfast, more swimming, a nap, more sex and continuous kissing and cuddling. I was in heaven, didn't think I could find a girlfriend experience like this in Pattaya. I had no intention of keeping this girl a second day and night but in the end kept her for a third as I did not leave Pattaya until Monday morning.
In summary three nights, two full days of kissing, cuddling, sexy GFE with a really sweet 40 year old, 4,500 Baht. I'm curious, when you guys keep a girl for longer than one night do you give less money for subsequent nights? I was tempted to do this but didn't want to ruin the mood (she might have felt OK about it but I would feel guilty). What's the protocol?
LittleBigMan
11-11-14, 02:25
BW,
For what you got at the price you pay and I'm sure someone will chime the opposite! You got a deal!
yeah but Einstein is dead and I m not. The men who say that I am so stupid. Probably right, but. Are you guys happily married? Or happily mongering? Or happy whatsoever? Tell me how to do it. Give me the alternative. I have been dating in Europe. It's hell, believe me. And. The single life until now really suits me (so why look for sth, still cannot explain.). This was a flash. Something I cannot give up.
I am sure. I will not pay for her. Maybe after I know that she wants to be in a "relationship". In Europe I had some bad experiences that cost me money as well. And maybe after 5 days we will have a fight and break up and I'll go back to my mongering business as usual, accepting the fact that it's written in the stars that I have to be alone forever. (maybe better).
I can live with that. Right now I have the (ridiculous) feeling that she's the one. I have to look her in the face and see what I see.
Somebody give me a pill.Cosmic30,
You don't really want others to tell you how to do it. All you really want is reassurance that your current set course of action is right!
'This time it's different. ' I have heard this many times. So carry on dude. It's your life, it's your money. Good luck!
Just remember that the statistics do not work in your favour. Successful relationships with ex P4P are few and far between.
Member #4698
11-11-14, 03:12
I'm curious, when you guys keep a girl for longer than one night do you give less money for subsequent nights? I was tempted to do this but didn't want to ruin the mood (she might have felt OK about it but I would feel guilty). What's the protocol?The protocol is you pay her LT fee and enjoy the GFE service and company. Don't screw it up.
yeah but Einstein is dead and I m not. The men who say that I am so stupid. Probably right, but. Are you guys happily married? Or happily mongering? Or happy whatsoever? Tell me how to do it. Give me the alternative. I have been dating in Europe. It's hell, believe me. And. The single life until now really suits me (so why look for sth, still cannot explain.). This was a flash. Something I cannot give up.
I am sure. I will not pay for her. Maybe after I know that she wants to be in a "relationship". In Europe I had some bad experiences that cost me money as well. And maybe after 5 days we will have a fight and break up and I'll go back to my mongering business as usual, accepting the fact that it's written in the stars that I have to be alone forever. (maybe better).
I can live with that. Right now I have the (ridiculous) feeling that she's the one. I have to look her in the face and see what I see.
Somebody give me a pill.Cosmic.
Simple recipe; Travel the world seeking out cute 18-22 year old pussy. Pay local market pricing, tip for great service if you want.
Most important. Send pussy home after 2-4 hours and go drink with your buddies.
Repeat recipe as needed.
Short term offers minimal problems. Beyond that ruins the recipe.
Guido88.
The protocol is you pay her LT fee and enjoy the GFE service and company. Don't screw it up.I agree. I wouldn't attempt to renegotiate fee unless you were keeping her for an extended period. One or two more days not worth ruining the mood.
BW,
For what you got at the price you pay and I'm sure someone will chime the opposite! You got a deal!Spend 3 full days with a 40 yo MILF? Not really my Christmas come early sort of thing. Never mind whatever the price. But to each his own. LOL!
Toumai
The science of the 80/20 rule.
GO-GO"s.
80% of the time if you Bar fine a lady from a "top 25" Go-Go club in Pattaya, you will pay top dollar and get good service that you have negotiated upfront.
20% of the time if you Bar fine a lady from a "top 25" Go-Go club, you will pay top dollar and get below average service that you thought you have already agreed to upfront, and at worse you pick a starfish.Interesting analysis! However I really think the above should be the other way around ánd it should be something like 5% versus 95% (5% give good service, 95% give bad service).
Arrived Friday around 6, quickly to Walking Street to hear some live music (great rock band in a bar just across from Crazy House). Directly next to the live music bar is a tiny hole-in-the-wall bar called "Ring the Bell Bar", and yes, they have a bell. One lady with beautiful legs sitting on the first stool at the entrance, I walked by to check her three times, third time she gives me a great smile, so in I go.
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In summary three nights, two full days of kissing, cuddling, sexy GFE with a really sweet 40 year old, 4,500 Baht. I'm curious, when you guys keep a girl for longer than one night do you give less money for subsequent nights? I was tempted to do this but didn't want to ruin the mood (she might have felt OK about it but I would feel guilty). What's the protocol?Sounds familliar. Will you care to post or PM a pic?
Wolvenvacht
11-11-14, 09:35
In summary three nights, two full days of kissing, cuddling, sexy GFE with a really sweet 40 year old, 4,500 Baht. I'm curious, when you guys keep a girl for longer than one night do you give less money for subsequent nights? I was tempted to do this but didn't want to ruin the mood (she might have felt OK about it but I would feel guilty). What's the protocol?The protocol is "there is no protocol". It is whatever you both can agree to. Personally, I either make an "all inclusive deal for the whole period" (but I will do so only if I am pretty sure of her and her services) or I pay on a day by day basis extending the deal as I fancy and as she is available. All days are paid the same amount in this case, as you I am paying for her time on a day-by-day basis.
But even with an "all exclusive" deal, I tend to pay her by daily installments. I find it keeps everyone honest and trustworthy. But as I said, such V (ery) LT is only for girls I know better and then of course there is already a certain level of mutual understanding that forms the basis for the arrangement.
I go to Baccara tonight for happy hour. The first ticket is 75 baht for house spirits which is the normal charge. I don't notice the 2nd ticket. The 3rd ticket is 80 baht and then I notice that the 2nd ticket is also 80 baht. I tell the waiter it should be 75 baht as it is happy hour. He takes the tickets and changes the 1st one from 75 to 80 baht. WTF! They changed the happy hour price in the middle of happy hour. I told the waiter this is bullshit. He laughed. It just shows me how much Baccara loves their regular customers. I'm less than a piece of shit to them. And I won't forget it.
ActionOriented
11-11-14, 19:33
I go to Baccara tonight for happy hour. The first ticket is 75 baht for house spirits which is the normal charge. I don't notice the 2nd ticket. The 3rd ticket is 80 baht and then I notice that the 2nd ticket is also 80 baht. I tell the waiter it should be 75 baht as it is happy hour. He takes the tickets and changes the 1st one from 75 to 80 baht. WTF! They changed the happy hour price in the middle of happy hour. I told the waiter this is bullshit. He laughed. It just shows me how much Baccara loves their regular customers. I'm less than a piece of shit to them. And I won't forget it.Again, goes to prove, most establishments (esp the Go-Gos) are too engrossed in running a con in Pattaya (hoping that customers don't notice and even if they do they don't care).
Again, goes to prove, most establishments (esp the Go-Gos) are too engrossed in running a con in Pattaya (hoping that customers don't notice and even if they do they don't care).Baccara is a favorite of mine. I don't think they're running a con. Had I known in advance that the price was now up another 5 baht I would have been OK with that as 5 baht is not worth fretting about.
But it wasn't long ago that happy hour drinks were 50 baht in Baccara. Now its 80 baht. ST with a stunner was 1000 baht. Now its 2000. Everything I admit is still a bargain but the cost of entertainment in Pattaya is creeping up.
Baccara and Happy are packed with Asian customers every night and they spend big time and chain smoke like fools. The bar knows it can afford to raise prices and these punters will still come in herds.
I'll keep coming too. The pussy is top notch and getting better all the time. I'll put up with a lot of bullshit for that.
In summary three nights, two full days of kissing, cuddling, sexy GFE with a really sweet 40 year old, 4,500 Baht. I'm curious, when you guys keep a girl for longer than one night do you give less money for subsequent nights? I was tempted to do this but didn't want to ruin the mood (she might have felt OK about it but I would feel guilty). What's the protocol?I think it would be reasonable to negotiate something in advance if you knew you were going to keep her for a few days. But I wouldn't short-change her after the event.
But it sounds like you got a great bargain. Sure, you could perhaps have paid £10 less over 3 days, but why would you want to? And of course she is looking forward to seeing you next time!
The science of the 80/20 rule.
The old common sense 80/20 Rule is alive and well in Pattaya!
So before you disagree with me and attempt to flame me, realize you are a 20%'er whether you know it or not. Because 80% of Pattaya mongers will agree with me and the rule, and 20% of Pattaya mongers won't. It really doesn't matter, remember it's all about the money and having some fun, IMHO the 80/20 rule is alive in Pattaya! Have fun and be safe.I like that: 'If you disagree with me, by definition you are wrong!' Can't argue with that; literally. Well, it might be common-sense, but it's certainly not science.
All you are saying is that sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. And just to prove the fallacy, there are plenty of girls that switch between beer bars and go-go bars. Do they suddenly switch from being 20% providers to 80% providers, to use your terms, overnight? Of course not. There are things that you can do to improve your chances of having a good time, but by far and away the most important is being nice to the girls and having a bit of 'good heart'. I'm guessing that you don't consider yourself 'old, fat or ugly', but you might be surprised at how little the girls care about such things.
The old common sense 80/20 Rule is alive and well in Pattaya!Your rule seems to suggest that the more you pay the better the service, and thus recommends patronizing a-go-gos.
Alas, good service is dependent upon the desperation (that is, un-marketability) of the provider, not the motivation of the customer (paying a lot). Good looking young girls have a plethora of customers even at the higher price level which prevails for such rarities. There's never really any great motivation or reason for them to provide excellent service.
Member #4698
11-13-14, 18:00
There are things that you can do to improve your chances of having a good time, but by far and away the most important is being nice to the girls ...Absolutely right on. I can only base my opinion on my own experiences in Pattaya where I have a 99.95% positive ratio with the girls I barfine regardless of whether I take them from Go Go's, Beer Bars, or Soi 6. Number 1 is have a good attitude, Duh! And act like you are having fun. LOL. Number 2 is be friendly and generous with a drink or two while interviewing and screening prospective girls. Take a little time to get to know them. Meanwhile look for any bad signs or tells from the girl and if found politely disengage. Don't be uptight or paranoid. If everything appears to be good, it most likely is. Number 3 is to always present yourself properly with good hygiene and clean clothes. Body odor or bad breath will drown your experiences with Thai girls.
Everybody can occasionally have a bad bar girl experience. I am probably over due for one. But punters that come on the forum consistently complaining that Thai girls are shit or Go Go girls provide lousy service usually have only themselves to blame. They most likely violated one or more of the 3 rules stated above.
Member #4599
11-13-14, 20:25
Hi guys,
I have some question; when you spend the longer time 4 or 5 days with one girl in Pattaya how often do you have sex with this girl, every morning and evening or also during the day time?
I am asking you because I will spend my holiday in Pattaya and I would like to get some information based on your experiences.
Feelz Good
11-13-14, 20:25
It's all about the money. Being nice is a given and goes without mentioning. But, I have seen some ladies that are attracted to bad boy assholes, very very few though, and it is a female mystery that has defied analysis. If a lady goes from a GoGo to work a beer bar, I agree there is a few, she is not going to get the 3000-4000 take out fee at the beer bar that she normally could of gotten at a GoGo. Let's say on average anyway, but maybe there are exceptions out there but I haven't heard of any. Does the lower take out fee hinder her performance. I guess it could happen, but maybe not, and she always gives incredible GFE. Old fashioned luck might play a part with a successful episode with a lady, but when you look back, were you nice, did you express that you have a good heart, did you make her laugh, were you generous, etc. Call it luck if you want. Being a 20% doesn't mean you are wrong, just that you have experienced the scene differently and don't agree. That's cool. But the 80/20 rule lives.
I like that: 'If you disagree with me, by definition you are wrong!' Can't argue with that; literally. Well, it might be common-sense, but it's certainly not science.
All you are saying is that sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. And just to prove the fallacy, there are plenty of girls that switch between beer bars and go-go bars. Do they suddenly switch from being 20% providers to 80% providers, to use your terms, overnight? Of course not. There are things that you can do to improve your chances of having a good time, but by far and away the most important is being nice to the girls and having a bit of 'good heart'. I'm guessing that you don't consider yourself 'old, fat or ugly', but you might be surprised at how little the girls care about such things.
Fast Eddie 48
11-13-14, 21:42
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Hi guys,
I have some question; when you spend the longer time 4 or 5 days with one girl in Pattaya how often do you have sex with this girl, every morning and evening or also during the day time?
I am asking you because I will spend my holiday in Pattaya and I would like to get some information based on your experiences.Simple rule for me is if I am paying, I get it when I want it or otherwise what's the point. I can stay in USA and have pussy rationed to me.
Hi,
I am going to Pattaya next week. Therefore, I need some advice you.
What is the best option to find a girl have fun (sex) with protection (STD).
1. going to beer bars / go go bars.
2. meet FL.
3. go to massage (soppy or oil).
Can we find sexy hot FL girls from walking street or beach road instead of going to beer bar or go-go bars. What is the duration of "short time" ? Is it 1 HR? Can we get 2 pops (fuck) in short time.
Please guys help me out for this as this my premiere to Pataya.
Thanks,
Yasaxxx
Days 2 -6.
Day 2-One of the pros of the whitehouse condotel is the set breakfast-Just right, as I tend to stuff myself at a buffet! Along with the girl friendly staff and the girlfriendly bed!!all perfect to the monger's taste. Trying to plan the day, as my buddy was still sick, I got acall from pan, Girl from Day1. She wants to know if I need company, and I agree. Hour later, Her Honda suv brings me my afternoon snack, PAT. She looks 30 +, but with a body surgically sculpted to perfection, and an attitude of a pro girl friend. 2000 bht for a 2 HR "longish short time" in multiple positions At the end of which, I could not resist tempting my pal with a ST offer. He takes up the challenge and was sabai sabai Maybe he will post a report too?
3 hrs of rest, and we head out to walking street. Beach road, which was taken up by festival stall the night before was teeming with working girls, although there were not many 5 plus. The two girls to whom we donated my sick pal's packed Phadthai and chicken green gravy on day 1 recognized us, said thanks, and offered "we go with you?"but the night was young, and we could see walking street ahead, beckoning. But, Distinctively Indian, we were bounced off a no of the bigger (better?) Gogo bar curtains, watched the many roadshows. Last time, I was with a fellow ISGian from Singapore, and alone in the trip beforethat. Many bars and coyotes beckoned me inside then. But this time as a group of three Indians, the bars were not keen. They are surely losing out on many a dollar, as there were many Indian groups around. I wonder what they will do in low season? But I never miss the bar girls nowadays, as other better options have opened up. We needed rest, and beers, so ended up in Angelwitch again. Pretty good shows, no con games, and good crowd. Many lady drinks, bhts, and frolic flowed in angelwitch. Took a bahttaxi to Rasputin, Choice was easy, Mint (16). At 3800 bht, this is an expensive outing, But I have a fetish for her, she being a pretty Indian filmstar lookalike and this gives me a kick, She is familiar with me too, seems to enjoy the act, that helps too. Worth mentioning here, another stunner had a 5000 bht tag on her!
NM.
Day3.
Pan is off to Phuket later today with a customer. Pan joins me for breakfast, and confirms my appointment of April 2015,with a kiss and a boobilicious hug before saying goodbye. She is a gem that I would want to return to. , But now, she has a "sister" Pat, who is ready to come, and sells me "long time". Pissed off at walking street racism, I settle for an overnighter. Having the afternoon free, we head over to Honey and sabaidee. Indians are major customers, and welcome in soapies. We find our preferred girls in the model sections, the normal fishbowl being all 3's and 4's, nothing more. My pal #1's Fever magically vanish after the session, but pal #2' s Sildenifal tablet strikes back and he is out of action for 24 hrs, living on coconuts and regret.
Pat is still climbing the ladder, I gather by the Toyota pickup that she picks me up in and we go to the proverbial bed after a wonderful thai dinner. My Pal # 1 finds his Indian restaurant and bliss. Really homely stuff.
I soon find out pat will surely get her Honda suv soon, she is a professional. I find myself having a Porn star experience, my pill (Ranbaxy) living up to its expectations. She has an incredible 36-26-36 hourglass figure and makes all the right moves and sounds. Her blonde hair bounced along with her tits in my favourite position, WOT. But she wouldn't let me squeeze them, must be a recent job done! That was fine, I just enjoyed the visual. We have wonderful sex through the night, short breaks in between, she has no limits. But guys have limits and I almost pass out. Later At breakfast, she promptly shows me two of her friends on facebook, and more profiles later. I choose the cute looker over the sex bomb. But insist on shorttime as I want to spent time with my buddies on Day 4, and relax on a beach chair over beers, shrimps and a foot massage.
Pat leaves after she saves her no and snap on my mobile. By the way, pics could not be attatched in pattaya forum, but I could in the india page. Any tips there from seniors? NM.
Day 4.
I think I have the day to myself, but my retired girlfriend,(now somebody else's girl) calls. Its weekend, she has the day off, so how about Lunch? The Hyde in me is thrilled, I groom myself like a teenager. To be on the safe side, pop a pill. Her"I come 12 noon na" was always 2 pm, and after the usual " sorry na" messages, she came at 2 pm. She drives a fancy car now, thanks to her benefactor (,lucky bugger). We long drive to Naklua, sea side seafood and wine sit, chat on the beach. I tell her about the Boss perfume gift I got for her from duty free, and she wants to go to the hotel room. On the way back, my conscience makes me miserable, it shows, she is concerned, "you ok, na? She sits on the bed, I give her the parcel, she gives me a peck on the cheek, and a hug. I do not hug her back, Its only platonic now. I am out of misery and grins with relief. Mind clear. She wants to go for cake and icecream, and I have to remind her of my "other date". So off she goes, and I know will message me goodnite every night I am in pattaya. I am happy for her.
Forgive me if I bored you guys. I call my friends, lie that my conference just got over (sorry, Pals, but this day was for my soul) and we get back together for a hunt. Pal #1 fixes up with a girl he liked at a massage place to come over late at night to his room, and retires, happy. I head back, shower, wait for my call from reception. Hotel desk is cool now, do not require me to go down for the formality, and the knock comes. I realize that the facebook photo I was shown was probably taken 5 years back, and docs have reshapened her cheeks and nose. (this I find is sooo commonly done, and often wonder why they spend 80 grand+ on such serious makeup.) The pill effect has been uplifting me, so we go ahead and do the BBJ, CBJ, WOT, and About turn routine to a perfect ending.
We are hungry, and call room service. We eat, drink beer, watch thai soap. I express my preference for the original cute face, and she offers her "sister" who has similar looks, and younger too. I say fine, choose ST, after lunch, as I am not sure. This trip is turning out to be "Referral fucks only"! 2nd round, and sleep, shower, bbj, and I am spent. This session was all too mechanical and scripted. Not one to dream of in the coming days. But the lunch date, I will cherish.
Nm.
Day 5,and 6 cute face.
Well, I actually had this conference. My alibi, ,so showed my face, had the lunch buffet and slipped back to the room.
Caught up on sleep, met my pals, now they know their way around, so didn't miss me yesterday. I wait in the lobby Another Toyota pickup parks, and the promised cute face walks in to my delight. I feel an instant chemistry. Not "sexy" she had only "A" cups, but lovely legs. In the room, she talks and talks in broken thaiglish and I found her cuter. Boobs did not matter, and I did not need the pill that day. Short time became very long time, and she talked, we ate, fucked, she talked, ate, fucked, slept, sucked, talked, ate again, fucked, slept, got up, and I did not want to let her go, but 12 noon was checkout time, and 4 our taxi pickup.
I had plans for devils den on the last day, but that was not to be. If I had an option, I would have postponed my trip! But by how long?. I say goodbye and thanks to the strong faithful bed, promising my return in April.
And in April, my first call will be to cuteface.. And am sure she will come in her swanky new SUV by then.
So till April 2015,Dream on.
The relationship with my ex thai girl started like this. Hmmm.
Nm.
I'm travelling to pattaya middle off March, any one like to meet for drinks, and chat welcome.
Hi,
I am going to Pattaya next week. Therefore, I need some advice you.
What is the best option to find a girl have fun (sex) with protection (STD).
1. going to beer bars / go go bars.
2. meet FL.
3. go to massage (soppy or oil).
Can we find sexy hot FL girls from walking street or beach road instead of going to beer bar or go-go bars. What is the duration of "short time" ? Is it 1 HR? Can we get 2 pops (fuck) in short time.
Please guys help me out for this as this my premiere to Pataya.
Thanks,
YasaxxxMy sugestion is that you can:
1. Read prior post that has that information since it has been discussed numerous times or:
2. Spend 20 bucks and buy a membership so someone can PM you with the information or you can PM them.
Either way we don't have to live through it again.
Johnthescot
11-15-14, 10:44
Hey guys,
In Pattaya in couple weeks time for all of Dec. 15th time so not a newbie.
Does anyone have any non opinionated info on where to find a Russian or other European? As in to pay for. I can't be arsed trying to chat up a tourist.
I said non opinionated as I get bored with the endless debates that start on here. It's why I avoid the site until 2 weeks before my trip. (not looking for debate on WHY anyone would want to, pay that amount etc etc ) :-)
Love you all though and will buy you ALL a drink in Dec.
Happy Mongering.
John.
Hey guys,
In Pattaya in couple weeks time for all of Dec. 15th time so not a newbie.
Does anyone have any non opinionated info on where to find a Russian or other European? As in to pay for. I can't be arsed trying to chat up a tourist..I know there certainly used to be a couple of places in walking street which had Russian girls but to be honest I've never been in either of these places. I remember seeing one on the right hand side as you enter from beach road where the girls were dancing in the windows on the first floor. Sorry I can't give you anymore information like prices etc as I said I have seen them but never ventured inside.
Regards,
BJ
Wolvenvacht
11-15-14, 13:27
Hi,
I am going to Pattaya next week. Therefore, I need some advice you.
What is the best option to find a girl have fun (sex) with protection (STD).
1. going to beer bars / go go bars.
2. meet FL.
3. go to massage (soppy or oil).I have never had any problem to find a girl that will use a condom. I think it is safe to say that protected sex is the norm, although it probably does not take too much insisting to have unprotected sex as well.
Can we find sexy hot FL girls from walking street or beach road instead of going to beer bar or go-go bars.Your idea of a "sexy hot girl" may be different from my idea or anybody else's idea. This is therefore a question that cannot be answered for lack of relevant data. I think all kind of FL girls and ladies walk around in Pattaya, so just do some scouting yourself until you find someone you like. Beerbars or agogo clubs do not have a monopoly on "sexy hot girls" (for whatever definition of "sexy hot girls").
What is the duration of "short time" ? Is it 1 HR? Can we get 2 pops (fuck) in short time.
Traditionally, "short time" ends when you cum. "Short Time" does not buy you "time", it buys you the right to cum once with the girl (within a reasonable time of course). "Long Time" buys you time: an overnight stay and as many pops as you can manage.
Please guys help me out for this as this my premiere to Pataya.
Thanks,
YasaxxxHave fun and don't forget to file some reports about your experiences!
I'm travelling to pattaya middle off March, any one like to meet for drinks, and chat welcome.Being a first poster, you may not know there are a different section in this thread by the heading of "Travel announcement bla bla. ". Generally members post their travel announcements and itinerary to meet like minded fellas.
You may try the same again in the respective section and will be able to find other fellas posted their announcements too.
Ralph Kramden
11-15-14, 15:53
Hey guys,
In Pattaya in couple weeks time for all of Dec. 15th time so not a newbie.
Does anyone have any non opinionated info on where to find a Russian or other European? As in to pay for. I can't be arsed trying to chat up a tourist.
I said non opinionated as I get bored with the endless debates that start on here. It's why I avoid the site until 2 weeks before my trip. (not looking for debate on WHY anyone would want to, pay that amount etc etc ) :-)
Love you all though and will buy you ALL a drink in Dec.
Happy Mongering.
John.For the best selection on Earth try Russia and other European countries. In other words, "When in Rome, fuck Romans. ".
ConquerorVal
11-15-14, 21:10
I have never had any problem to find a girl that will use a condom. I think it is safe to say that protected sex is the norm, although it probably does not take too much insisting to have unprotected sex as well.All the ladies I had a pleasure to shag were vehemently insistent on using protection. It did not matter whether they were from the beach road, F / L on walking street, Soi 6, massage places or a go go bar.
Reiner Otto
11-15-14, 21:19
Hey guys,
Does anyone have any non opinionated info on where to find a Russian or other European? As in to pay for.
John.There are a few Russian places on WS, where Russian or Ukrainian grils work.
You will recognize the places immediately.
BUT:
As I lived and worked a couple of years in UA and RF, I can tell you:
Prices of these girls on WS is too high, and quality too low.
Better book a flight to Kiev.
I was just reading on another board that parts of Beach Road are not safe. This guy was saying that in some areas there are packs of nasty LBs who can get really physical if some one wonders past alone. Any truth to this? Also, the same guy is saying you can not BF the greeters out side the bars? I that a steadfast rule? Sorry to sound so naive but first trip to Thailand. I depend a lot on what I get from this board when I arrive some where new.
LittleBigMan
11-16-14, 02:08
Hey guys,
In Pattaya in couple weeks time for all of Dec. 15th time so not a newbie.
Does anyone have any non opinionated info on where to find a Russian or other European? As in to pay for. I can't be arsed trying to chat up a tourist.
I said non opinionated as I get bored with the endless debates that start on here. It's why I avoid the site until 2 weeks before my trip. (not looking for debate on WHY anyone would want to, pay that amount etc etc ) :-)
Love you all though and will buy you ALL a drink in Dec.
Happy Mongering.
John.The one's walking on Beach road into W. S. I would never touch, they just do not appeal to me. On W. S. You might try Marlin Rouge? You can see girls dancing above in glass window and there are girls standing outside along the stairway. There is also another club next to Crazy House, there is also a club next to Pier Disco, The Old Tony's disco can't remember the new name there are some FL, and Mixx Disco, there might be some F. L. Too. Overall, expensive. Russians never has appeal to me even when I use to visit China City in Hong Kong, and Macau.
Leaving Patts for now, Took Muk from Ring the Bell Bar Walking Street (posted one week ago) for a second weekend, continued non-stop GFE. She may indeed be a nympho, she never stops and never says "no". I love it! Last weekend Friday, Saturday and Sunday THB 1,500 each day plus THB 300 Bar Fine. This weekend Friday and Saturday night, same financial arrangement. Dinner, good conversation and endless sex. By this morning (Sunday) I was sexed-out, only happened once before. Wow.
Walking Street these past two weekends full of Chinese tourists in tour groups, all following behind a tour guide holding a pennant or flag up in the air to lead the procession. The girls in Ring the Bell Bar are frustrated these groups never stop in, don't drink, yet cluster around for endless photo's of them and their customers. They also report a sharp drop in farang activity most of this year due to political wrangling in Bangkok. The girls fear Europeans are reading the bad press and going elsewhere, fewer customers in Pattaya at this time. Not a bad deal for those of us who show up!
I saw a lot of talent on Beach Road, hit and miss. My first trip down Beach Road Friday night 7 November I was very impressed with the quality and selection. Saturday was not as good and this recent weekend 14,15 November also hit-and-miss. Still lots of talent. If I hadn't stumbled into Muk at Ring the Bell I would have been very happy with multiple, random choices from the Coconut Bar.
I am a huge fan of American College football, a real passion of mine. I Googled watch parties in Pattaya and found The Irish Rover, Soi LK Metro. Went there 8 am Sunday morning 9 November as my team was kicking-off at 8 pm Eastern Time in the US, found about 20 other Americans in the bar doing the same thing, eating a great THB 99 full-English breakfast and watching football. Went back this weekend, returned from there just a few hours ago as my team had a noon kickoff in the US, midnight in Pattaya. The Irish Rover was packed with rowdy rugby fans but those games ended around 11:30 pm, most of them staggered out the door F'ing their teams the whole way! Got to love rugby fans. I spoke to the bar owner, an Irishman believe it or not, and he gladly put my American football game on one screen. By the time the game started probably 10 American men in the bar watching my game (Ohio State) and one other, while the other 20 screens all had England. Slovenia soccer game. The owner bragged about having two NFL game packages so he can show multiple NFL games as well, so if you are a fan of American football either College or NFL, check out the Irish Rover, and practice saying "Fuck" a lot.
FreeWillyBruh
11-16-14, 12:28
Excellent report Bushwacker. It's been a few years since I've been in Patts. Was curious where ya'll recommend the best bar with big screen TV'S and perhaps some talent? Staying at a Flipper property.
Hi guys,
I have some question; when you spend the longer time 4 or 5 days with one girl in Pattaya how often do you have sex with this girl, every morning and evening or also during the day time?
I am asking you because I will spend my holiday in Pattaya and I would like to get some information based on your experiences.I saw this post as I was researching my third trip to this country. I thought that was a funny question so felt like answering. I take generic cialis every alternate day and manage four times a day every day on my vacation. I usually tell the LT gal I like to do it four times. Some of them expect to get away with just once or twice a day. Once you have hired her, you can do it any time morning afternoon and night. But I find a fleeting flash on disappointment every time I ask this question about doing four times because no matter how seasoned a WG is, she loves the idea and chance of either impressing a newcomer or giving him a raw deal.
P.S. : I have a problem with long term memory. I go blank or don't remember too many details, and being a one or two beer glass drinker who manages seven to eight glasses on my mongering trips does not help. Hence you won't find many posts by me to trust my opinion. But I hope that wont be an issue.
Cheers.
I was just reading on another board that parts of Beach Road are not safe. This guy was saying that in some areas there are packs of nasty LBs who can get really physical if some one wonders past alone. Any truth to this?
Also, the same guy is saying you can not BF the greeters out side the bars? I that a steadfast rule? Sorry to sound so naive but first trip to Thailand. I depend a lot on what I get from this board when I arrive some where new.There's the same answer for both, maybe or maybe not. YMMV and what you might experience may not be the same for others.
Crocodilexp
11-16-14, 20:00
I was just reading on another board that parts of Beach Road are not safe. This guy was saying that in some areas there are packs of nasty LBs who can get really physical if some one wonders past alone. Any truth to this?I walked Beach Road countless times at all times of night alone (well, not so much after 4:30 am, I find someone and go to bed eventually). There are usually people around at all times, even in the less busy stretches, and I cannot say I ever felt the least bit unsafe.
Safety warnings only have merit if you're visibly drunk, carry expensive looking jewellery or stick around the ladyboys. In that case, there's some chance of mugging, and it sure is less safe than walking street.
Apart from being sober and not looking like a mug, the tricky part is passing by ladyboys. They might go for a grope (perhaps masking a wallet snatch), but as long as keep focused, just keep going around / past them, not try to insult them, they'll let you go. Definitely do not show you're upset with them or insinuate disgust, a half-smile is good if you can manage it. Do watch your valuables and don't stop or let a group of ladyboys surround you.
you can not BF the greeters out side the bars? I that a steadfast rule? No such rules. From the bar business perspective, greeters are usually among the better looking girls, valuable in bringing in customers. Therefore, the bar may not be delighted to let you barfine them (ask the girl for a phone number directly in that case), and as better looking they might have sponsors be a bit more picky about punters they go with (if they don't like you, no way around that, paying a good chunk over the going rate may technically work, but it would buy you a dead fish). They are still working girls, though.
Crocodilexp
11-16-14, 20:11
when you spend the longer time 4 or 5 days with one girl in Pattaya how often do you have sex with this girl, every morning and evening or also during the day time?
I am asking you because I will spend my holiday in Pattaya and I would like to get some information based on your experiences.As often as you damn want and can get it up. While you should always be polite with the women you're with (and it's best when there's some chemistry and effort on both sides), don't be a pushover, working girls can sense this, and often take advantage. Bottom line is that you're paying her to provide sexual services (plus a fantasy that she likes you to some extent, in some cases). She is free to evade or outright refuse at any point, but if you dislike the arrangement for any reason, you can pay her the agreed fee for the services rendered, and go find another one.
Don't make a deal for 5 days in advance, just get one long time session and extend it. I actually never even bother getting a long time outright, just get a short time, and extend if the chemistry is right. May well tell her you're looking for a longer deal, but don't commit to it.
To be honest, I rarely even get a girl for LT these days, the scene is not as mellow and lovey-dovey GFE as it used to be 10 years ago, and after busting one or two nuts don't care to sleep next to a woman who'd rather be somewhere else.
Johnthescot
11-17-14, 00:40
The one's walking on Beach road into W. S. I would never touch, they just do not appeal to me. On W. S. You might try Marlin Rouge? You can see girls dancing above in glass window and there are girls standing outside along the stairway. There is also another club next to Crazy House, there is also a club next to Pier Disco, The Old Tony's disco can't remember the new name there are some FL, and Mixx Disco, there might be some F. L. Too. Overall, expensive. Russians never has appeal to me even when I use to visit China City in Hong Kong, and Macau.Thanks LittleBigMan,
Informative as usual. Might not do it. Just trying to fit in as many different things into this trip as I can. Probably last and it breaks my heart.
Thanks.
JohnTheScot.
Feelz Good
11-17-14, 01:16
Hey guys,
2 weeks in on a 3 week visit and would like to report that there is plenty of ladies. So much so that some of the ladies are complaining and club Mamasan's complaining that there isn't enough mongers spending money. Great opportunity for mongers that are here. But in my opinion quality and quantity is up also but charges are up a little also. For instance stopped in Alcatraz last night, 30-40 ladies, and 7 mongers. Last year I had a hard time getting a seat. Also, there is a ton of Chinese and Japanese family tours of 30-40 people being lead by a leader with a flag up and down Walking Street. I don't know what the family fascination is, but I sure wouldn't bring my kids down there at night. All they do is clog everything up. Without them I think Walking St. Would show that Monger activity is down a little. Anyway, did take out from a BJ Bar on Soi 6 and ended up with a starfish. I am speechless on describing how a young girl in a BJ Bar that doesn't know how to provide a descent BJ. In contrast, I did the Telephone bar, and any of those ladies know what a BJ should be, looks in the 5-6 range but one of the best I have ever had. Did I-Bar and kept the lady for 2 days. Did Happy Go-go take out and kept her for 2 days. Did 3 massage parlors and found one lady that I asked to come to my hotel, she has visited me 3 times now with full service. If I keep a lady more than one day she keeps me happy. Recommend Beefeaters Pub on Soi Diana just up from Second Rd. Excellent Sunday brunch for 295 Baht. Visit hungry and you won't be disappointed. Have fun and be safe!
LittleBigMan
11-17-14, 01:36
Thanks LittleBigMan,
Informative as usual. Might not do it. Just trying to fit in as many different things into this trip as I can. Probably last and it breaks my heart.
Thanks.
JohnTheScot.Sorry to hear it! Then you got to go out with a BANG! Enjoy!
Excellent report Bushwacker. It's been a few years since I've been in Patts. Was curious where ya'll recommend the best bar with big screen TV'S and perhaps some talent? Staying at a Flipper property.Google chick and coop Pattaya or check out link below. American Vet owner so stateside sports are always on. Watched 3 USA World Cup there. Good bar / crowd with free food.
http://www.pattaya-addicts.com/forum/topic/50672-chik-n-coop-bar/
MaximusBibicus
11-17-14, 11:48
Sawadeeka. I love Thailand. Amazing Thailand. Had the best time of my life and thanks to all who replied to my PM and guided me to have such blast.
Will be reporting over the weekend.
As often as you damn want and can get it up. While you should always be polite with the women you're with (and it's best when there's some chemistry and effort on both sides), don't be a pushover, working girls can sense this, and often take advantage. Bottom line is that you're paying her to provide sexual services (plus a fantasy that she likes you to some extent, in some cases). She is free to evade or outright refuse at any point, but if you dislike the arrangement for any reason, you can pay her the agreed fee for the services rendered, and go find another one.
Don't make a deal for 5 days in advance, just get one long time session and extend it. I actually never even bother getting a long time outright, just get a short time, and extend if the chemistry is right. May well tell her you're looking for a longer deal, but don't commit to it.
To be honest, I rarely even get a girl for LT these days, the scene is not as mellow and lovey-dovey GFE as it used to be 10 years ago, and after busting one or two nuts don't care to sleep next to a woman who'd rather be somewhere else.Crocodilexp,
How many times you can bang a girl for long time needs to be discussed before you take. I have been with girls that after 20 minutes sometimes even 15 minutes they start saying its starting to get raw. Even with lube. Some girls can go a lot no problem but others cannot or do not want sex 5 times a day. This kind of thing need to be discussed with the girl.
Wolvenvacht
11-17-14, 20:01
Sawadeeka. I love Thailand. Amazing Thailand. Had the best time of my life and thanks to all who replied to my PM and guided me to have such blast.
Will be reporting over the weekend."Sawadee ka" is said by women. Men say "sawadee khrap". :)
MaximusBibicus
11-18-14, 10:47
"Sawadee ka" is said by women. Men say "sawadee khrap". :)Haha. I always had women saying it. But good to know for next time.
I've written half the report, just need to finish, copy and paste.
Khobun Khab.
LuvAsianTang
11-18-14, 17:50
Haha. I always had women saying it. But good to know for next time.
I've written half the report, just need to finish, copy and paste.
Khobun Khab.Sorry dude it's nice that you are trying but it's kob kuhn kop not khobun khab. But at least you are trying eventually you will get the hang of it.
LAT.
Haha. I always had women saying it. But good to know for next time.
Khobun Khab.Likely LBs saying that to you as hard to see how native Thai women would be saying it.
MaximusBibicus
11-18-14, 21:31
Sorry dude it's nice that you are trying but it's kob kuhn kop not khobun khab. But at least you are trying eventually you will get the hang of it.
LAT.Thanks for the correction dude. Likely to help next time haha.
Likely LBs saying that to you as hard to see how native Thai women would be saying it.Aha. Maybe I wasn't paying close attention.
Thanks for the correction dude. Likely to help next time haha.
Aha. Maybe I wasn't paying close attention.It's khoopkhun khrap. And women say khoopkhun kha.
Sushilover808
11-19-14, 07:23
Day 0 – transit from USA to BKK. Flights were on ANA connecting to Thai Air. Great service including unlimited red & white wine, whiskey, vodka, & gin and personal IFE on both flights in Economy Class.
Day 1 – Arrived in BKK at 5:20 am with virtually no line at immigration and took Mr. T Taxi for 1 K baht. Arrived in Pattaya at about 7:30 am. Dropped bags at Noble Place on Soi Post Office & wet to breakfast buffet at Cafe Pascal on 2nd Road. Only 700 baht rooms available at Noble place so I went 1 block over to Soi Yamato & stayed at SA apartments for 500 baht per night. Room was very clean & staff was friendly but low shower water pressure. Around lunch time I went for a 200 baht massage on soi Pizza Hut aka soi post office. Should have been one hour but it was less than 50 minutes so no tip.
After a short nap, I walked up toward LK Metro area massage shops. Just past the Triangle Bar behind Oasis I went back to Aree Massage. I liked a slightly husky girl who called me in for a 200 baht "oil massage". She asked for 400 baht HJ / BJ or 800 baht FS. I asked about about anal and she said "same-same 800". So my first pop on this trip was in a slightly skanky massage shop for total 1000 baht total but it was definitely fun.
Another nap in the hotel then it was off to Beach Road. Skinny girl named Pupe asked 1 K for FS including anal. She said both she & her friend could do anal. Took Pupe first the came back for her friend 2 hours later. Pupe was a but of a heavy moaner but no problem for the second girl. Just FYI, may options were available for 500 to 700 or 800 for FS but I was looking for anal which is more difficult to find and a little more expensive. Day 1 total 3 x 1 K baht for 3 girls.
Sushilover808
11-19-14, 07:27
3rd girl from day 1.
Day 0 transit from USA to BKK. Flights were on ANA connecting to Thai Air. Great service including unlimited red & white wine, whiskey, vodka, & gin and personal IFE on both flights in Economy Class.
Day 1 Arrived in BKK at 5:20 am with virtually no line at immigration and took Mr. T Taxi for 1 K baht. Arrived in Pattaya at about 7:30 am. Dropped bags at Noble Place on Soi Post Office & wet to breakfast buffet at Cafe Pascal on 2nd Road. Only 700 baht rooms available at Noble place so I went 1 block over to Soi Yamato & stayed at SA apartments for 500 baht per night. Room was very clean & staff was friendly but low shower water pressure. Around lunch time I went for a 200 baht massage on soi Pizza Hut aka soi post office. Should have been one hour but it was less than 50 minutes so no tip.
After a short nap, I walked up toward LK Metro area massage shops. Just past the Triangle Bar behind Oasis I went back to Aree Massage. I liked a slightly husky girl who called me in for a 200 baht "oil massage". She asked for 400 baht HJ / BJ or 800 baht FS. I asked about about anal and she said "same-same 800". So my first pop on this trip was in a slightly skanky massage shop for total 1000 baht total but it was definitely fun.
Another nap in the hotel then it was off to Beach Road. Skinny girl named Pupe asked 1 K for FS including anal. She said both she & her friend could do anal. Took Pupe first the came back for her friend 2 hours later. Pupe was a but of a heavy moaner but no problem for the second girl. Just FYI, may options were available for 500 to 700 or 800 for FS but I was looking for anal which is more difficult to find and a little more expensive. Day 1 total 3 x 1 K baht for 3 girls.I love Aree Massage. Many a fun time I had there. You are correct, it's nice and skanky. English Rose across the street has some nice rooms if you like staying in that area.
Sushilover808
11-20-14, 02:29
Day 2 AYCE lunch at shabu shabu buffet on the 5th floor of Central Festival for 329 baht including soft drinks, sushi & dessert then afternoon nap & massage. Night pretty much the same as first night pulled 3 girls ST at 1 K baht each. First two were spinners that did anal w / BBBJCIM, last FS w / BBBJCIMWS. I tried talking them down to 700 or 800 just to keep the market price but I was lazy & I usually tip up to 1 K anyway. All were good but only took pictures of first girl. PM for contact info.
Day 3 I changed my hotel to Jasmine Place on Soi BJ off Walking Street to hang with AMEXSPG. Hotel is under renovation with no restaurant & no pool but location can't be beat for Insomnia pickups. Room is nice with kitchenette & flatscreen TV, & AC but no window so room can be dark all day. Room is 750 baht per night for simple room.
My back was in pain from the 6 girls the first 3 nights so I did a Thai massage and slept from 6 pm to past midnight. Met up with AMEXSPG at 2 am to go to Insomnia. We did bottle service x 2, many rounds of slushie shots & I paid for breakfast at 7 am for 4 girls so damage was about 3 K baht just to party with many girls. It was my first time to hunt at a disco so fortunately, AMEX knew many girls & he set me up with ICE, a 3 holer for LT 1 K. No discussion about price. First round at 8 am was 3 hole sex but we were both a little drunk so no finish. It was actually my first LT so I didn't know how much to let her sleep. Finally around 1 pm, I was getting impatient so I rolled her over on her side and stuck it in. No complaints and she woke up moaning. Did her backdoor to completion and left 1 K on her clothes. She showered & I walked her out & gave her another 100 baht for the motorbike home. LT may not be my thing but partying at Insomnia was definitely great fun.
Crocodilexp
11-20-14, 07:58
How many times you can bang a girl for long time needs to be discussed before you take. I have been with girls that after 20 minutes sometimes even 15 minutes they start saying its starting to get raw. Even with lube. Some girls can go a lot no problem but others cannot or do not want sex 5 times a day. This kind of thing need to be discussed with the girl.You're correct, I guess. In this day and age it's necessary to discuss things that used to be understood in the past (like whether they do BBBJ, how many shags in a long time, whether kissing is allowed). Give it a few more years, it'll be like Amsterdam where taking off the bra is a special service.
Generally, the common standard for LT used to be 3 times: 2 shots in the evening and 1 in the morning. If you go beyond that, she has grounds to complain and still receive the full LT rate, but it never happened to me far. Either a girl is happy to provide a decent service (including that extra shot if you feel like it during the LT), or she's whiny and flaky from the very start. Not much middle ground.
If she's complaining after only 20 min, it's best to finish your business, kick her out, pay the short time rate, and go find another girl. Of course, it's basic human decency not to go too rough (unless she's ok with that), to use lube as needed, change positions, go slowly if she's uncomfortable, and let her finish you of with a good BBBJ if she really hurts and cannot continue. However, if despite being reasonable she's complaining, she surely is not someone I'd want to waste my precious time with. There's no shortage of working girls in Pattaya, not yet anyway.
Day 3 I changed my hotel to Jasmine Place on Soi BJ off Walking Street to hang with AMEXSPG. Hotel is under renovation with no restaurant & no pool but location can't be beat for Insomnia pickups. Room is nice with kitchenette & flatscreen TV, & AC but no window so room can be dark all day. Room is 750 baht per night for simple room.I was planning to stay here since iBar / Insomnia are 80% of my trip! I was planning on the Superior room for 950. I don't want to feel like I'm living in a prison in the standard room with no window! Did they say how long renovation will be for? I am planning to go late February.
The science of the 80/20 rule.
The old common sense 80/20 Rule is alive and well in Pattaya!Sorry. This must be repeated. Money and looks for that matter have no correlation with service. I can't speak for beer bars because I can't find anyone I like there. Gogos I rarely go to, because the places with girls I like have crazy BF. I spend most of time in discos. I have gotten amazing service from most of them. On my last trip. The one lazy starfish I had was was guess what. A gogo girl!
When your right your right. It was me that picked the restaurant mainly because it was close to my hotel and I just wanted to get her back to my room. If you would have seen this chicks body. I could not think right. She was so cute.
I left out the best part. When I walk on the street and its busy. After every five feet I look behind me to scan for motor bikes. They will zig zag between tourists sometimes. Well last night even though I was walking on the side of the street. I stopped scanning behind me. Next thing I know a motor bike hits me. Now it was going only 10 mph and hits me. I did not get hit with the wheel but the side of the bike. The lady did not even say sorry. WTF? At that point I had flashes in my head of kicking her bike to the ground, or grabbing her bike and pushing it to the ground. Then I had visions of the Thai police takes me to the police station ect. So I did nothing. At least I did not get hurt because it could have been a lot worse.Instead of looking behind you, why not walk against the flow of traffic so you can see the moto bikes in front of you?
Johnthescot
11-22-14, 13:21
Hi guys,
I'm in Pattaya in 2 weeks time on 6th for 2 weeks. Been there loads of times so know place pretty well. Would be good to hook up with some guys on the forum for beers and fun. Always better with a wing man.
If anyone is around at that time and fancies some beers then please PM me.
JohnTheScot.
Uncle Volodya
11-22-14, 13:28
Sorry. This must be repeated. Money and looks for that matter have no correlation with service. I can't speak for beer bars because I can't find anyone I like there. Gogos I rarely go to, because the places with girls I like have crazy BF. I spend most of time in discos. I have gotten amazing service from most of them. On my last trip. The one lazy starfish I had was was guess what. A gogo girl!I could not agree more. Disco pickups at places like I-Bar or Red Car are my bread and butter and the main reason I think Patts beats other venues, like AC, where the cisco FL scene is less lively or non-existent.
Wolvenvacht
11-22-14, 13:48
Instead of looking behind you, why not walk against the flow of traffic so you can see the moto bikes in front of you?Of course, thai moto-bikes regularly go against the flow of traffic as well. They drive on the pavement or the wrong way of one-way streets. You have to have eyes all around to stay safe.
Arrived on Thursday in Patts. Then, I went to explore LK Soi Metro first. However, the quality was not to my expectation. Then, I moved to WS. Here, I checked some of my favorite bars, but also here, I was rather disappointed.
Finally, at Crazy House, I found a cutie, which I had seen already during my visit last time, a couple of months ago. That time, I didn't do her. She was too busy. But this time, it didn't take a long time, until she was sitting on my lap and made me horny. I agreed to bar fine her. However, it appears that the new price standard is not at all customer-friendly. 1000 Baht for bar fine and 2500 baht for ST or 4000 baht for LT seem to be the new standard.
That really looked like a crazy house. I know that bar fines are hardly negotiable. The bars are just not interested enough. However, I agreed soon with the girl for 2000 baht ST and 3000 baht for the overnighter. This used to be the rate just a few months ago.
We did then ST, and she was actually great. A real spinner, good fun and very enjoyable personality. Also, she was quite into the deed, since she had not been bar fined for several days.
On Friday evening, I also checked a few gogos and was told that this is the regular rate: 2500 baht for ST and 4000 Baht for LT.
So, I ask myself: what the nonsense with ever higher prices if the girls are just not bar fined anymore? It appears that the gogos more and more rely on (overpriced) drinks and LD. It's a pity for this place. Pattaya used to be probably the best monger place on earth. However, if it continues the current trend, I have doubts whether we shall come back so regularly. At least, we need even more negotiation efforts and should not allow this to become the new standard. Is this really already a seller's market?
Wonderer.
Arrived on Thursday in Patts. Then, I went to explore LK Soi Metro first. However, the quality was not to my expectation. Then, I moved to WS. Here, I checked some of my favorite bars, but also here, I was rather disappointed.
Finally, at Crazy House, I found a cutie, which I had seen already during my visit last time, a couple of months ago. That time, I didn't do her. She was too busy. But this time, it didn't take a long time, until she was sitting on my lap and made me horny. I agreed to bar fine her. However, it appears that the new price standard is not at all customer-friendly. 1000 Baht for bar fine and 2500 baht for ST or 4000 baht for LT seem to be the new standard.
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So, I ask myself: what the nonsense with ever higher prices if the girls are just not bar fined anymore? It appears that the gogos more and more rely on (overpriced) drinks and LD. It's a pity for this place. Pattaya used to be probably the best monger place on earth. However, if it continues the current trend, I have doubts whether we shall come back so regularly. At least, we need even more negotiation efforts and should not allow this to become the new standard. Is this really already a seller's market?
Wonderer.For some unexplained reason, the Thai approach to supply and demand is to raise the price when the demand lessens. But it has been so long since I have been into a gogo, I'm not surprised. IF I want to pay high prices, I could just go to VANCOUVER, EH?
Johnthescot
11-22-14, 16:12
Just getting a bit excited about my next trip in 2 weeks so will be posting random shit and reading a lot more.
For those that have never been, living vicariously on the forum, still planning first trip and unsure, coming soon etc.
Typical Day in Pattaya (well for me anyway) .
1. Wake up, Get BJ from girl in bed that you might or might not remember name or which disco / gogo you met her at.
2. Have a 2 hour jacuzzi bath with girl from above, soaping you down while sipping a beer and trying to get rid of the hangover you have from last night.
3. Get rid of girl and answer text messages from random guy / guys you met last night and arrange to meet up for lunch.
4. Meet guys for lunch and reminisce on the fun from previous night, each filling in the mental blanks and telling you where you picked up your GF.
5. Head down to Tahitian Queen on Beach Road for a couple of beers and to look at lovely girls in bikinis and uinderwear while listening to ridiculously loud rock music.
6. Few beers, buy a few lady drinks, have a grope. If one takes your fancy pop off for a quickie in short time room, if not then no problem, the day is still young.
7. We decide we want some change of scenery so head over to soi 6 "just for a look".
8. Beer in couple of bars then we all head upstairs with a schoolgirl for an hour.
9. 20 minutes later we are all in bar finishing our beers.
10. Couple more beer bars and chat then we decide to head home for a siesta and shower before meeting up later for a "proper night out".
11. Have a sleep, shower, get some nice clothes on for the club / disco later.
12. Meet the guys at beer bar across from Viiew Talay 6 for some pre WS chat and fun.
13. Do a few in Soi Buakhao then head to Walking Street via Tim's Bar and couple bars on Soi Pattayaland 2 (not the gay ones) .
14. Hook up with some other random guy / guys we meet along the way.
15. Head to Walking Street and have a blast!!
16. Wake up (see number 1 above) .
Living The Dream in Pattaya. Can't wait.
JohnTheScot.
Johnthescot
11-22-14, 16:19
Seen a lot of stuff on here recently about FL in discos. I have had a few but never been my thing. Seems to be a lot of good reports about it now though. Think I will try a bit more of that. I'm a young 42 year old who dresses well. Think You need a wing man for disco though? Or have you had easy solo fun there? Seems harder to get the "in" on your own whereas a gogo is "you sit down, they come talk to you".
Did always notice that there were much better looking girls in disco than gogo. But by then I had a gogo girl with me and couldn't do anything about it. Did have a few girls try to touch my hand as walking past etc so that's a good sign. I think.
Which are the good ones at the moment. Not been since last year.
Will try it and report on my findings. Helps that I am a Hansum man though, so you might not all be so lucky.
JohnTheScot.
Johnthescot
11-22-14, 16:25
Arrived on Thursday in Patts. Then, I went to explore LK Soi Metro first. However, the quality was not to my expectation. Then, I moved to WS. Here, I checked some of my favorite bars, but also here, I was rather disappointed.
Finally, at Crazy House, I found a cutie, which I had seen already during my visit last time, a couple of months ago. That time, I didn't do her. She was too busy. But this time, it didn't take a long time, until she was sitting on my lap and made me horny. I agreed to bar fine her. However, it appears that the new price standard is not at all customer-friendly. 1000 Baht for bar fine and 2500 baht for ST or 4000 baht for LT seem to be the new standard.
That really looked like a crazy house. I know that bar fines are hardly negotiable. The bars are just not interested enough. However, I agreed soon with the girl for 2000 baht ST and 3000 baht for the overnighter. This used to be the rate just a few months ago.
We did then ST, and she was actually great. A real spinner, good fun and very enjoyable personality. Also, she was quite into the deed, since she had not been bar fined for several days.
On Friday evening, I also checked a few gogos and was told that this is the regular rate: 2500 baht for ST and 4000 Baht for LT.
So, I ask myself: what the nonsense with ever higher prices if the girls are just not bar fined anymore? It appears that the gogos more and more rely on (overpriced) drinks and LD. It's a pity for this place. Pattaya used to be probably the best monger place on earth. However, if it continues the current trend, I have doubts whether we shall come back so regularly. At least, we need even more negotiation efforts and should not allow this to become the new standard. Is this really already a seller's market?
Wonderer.Is it really 2500ST and 4000 LT!! Fuck!! Have others found that pricing structure at gogos?
JohnTheScot.
Mr Enternational
11-22-14, 18:16
Seen a lot of stuff on here recently about FL in discos. I have had a few but never been my thing. Seems to be a lot of good reports about it now though. Think I will try a bit more of that. I'm a young 42 year old who dresses well. Think You need a wing man for disco though? Or have you had easy solo fun there? Seems harder to get the "in" on your own whereas a gogo is "you sit down, they come talk to you".
Did always notice that there were much better looking girls in disco than gogo. But by then I had a gogo girl with me and couldn't do anything about it. Did have a few girls try to touch my hand as walking past etc so that's a good sign. I think.
Which are the good ones at the moment. Not been since last year.I'm 42 as well. You don't need a wingman. I generally go to sleep about 10. Sometimes I will wake up about 4 and run out to a disco to grab a girl to bring home. It's a 5 minute evolution for me. Other times, when I have friends in town we will go out and hang. The other morning I didn't make it home until 8:30 am from being in the discos from about 1 am.
(I think you asked about Russian chicks. I was going into Tipsy about 6:30 am that night and there was a tall, nice looking Russian chick walking in the same time as I was. I asked her how much she wanted. She said 5000. I told her to be serious. She said okay 3000. Still too much for me. If she would have come down to 2000 then I would have pounced on it, although I have never given anyone here 2000. Instead, when I didn't go for the 3000, she got angry and said in an angry tone, "You Can't Buy Me!" Well shit, that is what I was just attempting to do, but the price wasn't right.).
Remember that in some cases the disco girls are the same as the gogo girls as they do go to the discos after work. Last night I met a girl who said she works in Champagne agogo from 7 pm to 3 am. It was about 3:30 when I met her. I was feeling like a short girl though and ended up taking a midget home!
There are plenty of good ones, but it all boils down to what type of music you like as to which is good to you.
Reiner Otto
11-22-14, 18:40
Is it really 2500ST and 4000 LT!! Fuck!! Have others found that pricing structure at gogos?
JohnTheScot.Came back from Patty 4 weeks ago. Only one girl from Gogo, 3000 LT. But was not worth it.
I was more into discos, especially "Red Car", just at beginning of WS. Not the youngest girls there, about middle of 20 and up.
Prices for me 1500-2000 LT.
Uncle Volodya
11-22-14, 18:49
I'm 42 as well. You don't need a wingman. I generally go to sleep about 10. Sometimes I will wake up about 4 and run out to a disco to grab a girl to bring home. It's a 5 minute evolution for me. Other times, when I have friends in town we will go out and hang. The other morning I didn't make it home until 8:30 am from being in the discos from about 1 am.
(I think you asked about Russian chicks. I was going into Tipsy about 6:30 am that night and there was a tall, nice looking Russian chick walking in the same time as I was. I asked her how much she wanted. She said 5000. I told her to be serious. She said okay 3000. Still too much for me. If she would have come down to 2000 then I would have pounced on it, although I have never given anyone here 2000. Instead, when I didn't go for the 3000, she got angry and said in an angry tone, "You Can't Buy Me!" Well shit, that is what I was just attempting to do, but the price wasn't right.).
Remember that in some cases the disco girls are the same as the gogo girls as they do go to the discos after work. Last night I met a girl who said she works in Champagne agogo from 7 pm to 3 am. It was about 3:30 when I met her. I was feeling like a short girl though and ended up taking a midget home!
There are plenty of good ones, but it all boils down to what type of music you like as to which is good to you.Where is Tipsy? I think I should check it out when I am in town next month.
Arrived on Thursday in Patts. Then, I went to explore LK Soi Metro first. However, the quality was not to my expectation. Then, I moved to WS. Here, I checked some of my favorite bars, but also here, I was rather disappointed.
Finally, at Crazy House, I found a cutie, which I had seen already during my visit last time, a couple of months ago. That time, I didn't do her. She was too busy. But this time, it didn't take a long time, until she was sitting on my lap and made me horny. I agreed to bar fine her. However, it appears that the new price standard is not at all customer-friendly. 1000 Baht for bar fine and 2500 baht for ST or 4000 baht for LT seem to be the new standard.
That really looked like a crazy house. I know that bar fines are hardly negotiable. The bars are just not interested enough. However, I agreed soon with the girl for 2000 baht ST and 3000 baht for the overnighter. This used to be the rate just a few months ago.
We did then ST, and she was actually great. A real spinner, good fun and very enjoyable personality. Also, she was quite into the deed, since she had not been bar fined for several days.
On Friday evening, I also checked a few gogos and was told that this is the regular rate: 2500 baht for ST and 4000 Baht for LT.
So, I ask myself: what the nonsense with ever higher prices if the girls are just not bar fined anymore? It appears that the gogos more and more rely on (overpriced) drinks and LD. It's a pity for this place. Pattaya used to be probably the best monger place on earth. However, if it continues the current trend, I have doubts whether we shall come back so regularly. At least, we need even more negotiation efforts and should not allow this to become the new standard. Is this really already a seller's market?
Wonderer.I don't do Go Go's because I have always felt the price was to high. For 5000 bht, I can get an Asian spinner here in the USA and save on plane fare and hotel.
They keep raising the price because they know foreigners will pay it. You paid the 1000 bht barfine, but you saved 500 bht on the girl and only paid her 2000st.
Now tell me again why the prices keep going up? LOL.
Seen a lot of stuff on here recently about FL in discos. I have had a few but never been my thing. Seems to be a lot of good reports about it now though. Think I will try a bit more of that. I'm a young 42 year old who dresses well. Think You need a wing man for disco though? Or have you had easy solo fun there? Seems harder to get the "in" on your own whereas a gogo is "you sit down, they come talk to you".
Did always notice that there were much better looking girls in disco than gogo. But by then I had a gogo girl with me and couldn't do anything about it. Did have a few girls try to touch my hand as walking past etc so that's a good sign. I think.
Which are the good ones at the moment. Not been since last year.
Will try it and report on my findings. Helps that I am a Hansum man though, so you might not all be so lucky.
JohnTheScot.Yes John Handsome and modest. LOL.
Since you are so hansome, leave your wallet at home, go to the Go Go's and discos, then try your luck getting it for free.
In LOS for a foreigner money is handsome. Everything else is a distant second.
Feelz Good
11-23-14, 00:54
In my experiences over the past 3 weeks I have noticed the big GoGo's wanting 1000-1500 Baht bar fine. The best I could do was 700 after midnight at Happy. Windmill, Sugar Babies, etc. , were higher. So, I agree from my experiences from last year to this year prices are going up. I agree ST is 2000-2500 and LT 3000-4000 and up. Beer Bars are asking 300-500 Baht Bar Fine and usually 2000-2500 Baht LT. Don't know why, but I have noticed Japanese and Russian customers throwing Baht around at the ladies like drunken sailors, buying ping pong balls and ringing the bell for lady drinks for all the ladies. I myself, not handsome man, have walked away from many ladies this year after negotiations could not reduce the increased costs. I guess over time the current costs will seem like a real deal. But, a little effort at I-Bar or freelancers will reward you with 1000 Baht long time with no bar fine! Sadly, It must be inflation that is finally showing its ugly head in Pattaya.
Is it really 2500ST and 4000 LT!! Fuck!! Have others found that pricing structure at gogos?
JohnTheScot.
LittleBigMan
11-23-14, 02:30
I don't do Go Go's because I have always felt the price was to high. For 5000 bht, I can get an Asian spinner here in the USA and save on plane fare and hotel.
They keep raising the price because they know foreigners will pay it. You paid the 1000 bht barfine, but you saved 500 bht on the girl and only paid her 2000st.
Now tell me again why the prices keep going up? LOL.Now TellAll you are really blowing smoke up the ass? 5000 baht in the USA Would get you parking outside a massage sneaking around so your friends and family do not spot you. Once inside you get a drop of oil on your balls and your finished?
The airfare from the USA Runs you from 1,000-1500.00 and that is for coach which today I'll be generous and give you a 32-1 exchange rate = 32,000 baht. Sure 5,000 baht and Barfine is high and there are so many options here but if one had or wanted to it is still cheaper that is why everyone endure the hours to get here.
Enjoy.
LittleBigMan
11-23-14, 03:01
Seen a lot of stuff on here recently about FL in discos. I have had a few but never been my thing. Seems to be a lot of good reports about it now though. Think I will try a bit more of that. I'm a young 42 year old who dresses well. Think You need a wing man for disco though? Or have you had easy solo fun there? Seems harder to get the "in" on your own whereas a gogo is "you sit down, they come talk to you".
Did always notice that there were much better looking girls in disco than gogo. But by then I had a gogo girl with me and couldn't do anything about it. Did have a few girls try to touch my hand as walking past etc so that's a good sign. I think.
Which are the good ones at the moment. Not been since last year.
Will try it and report on my findings. Helps that I am a Hansum man though, so you might not all be so lucky.
JohnTheScot.Hey you are a young man at 42, and the girls are not lying " you handsome man ". I've been to I-Bar, Insomia, and at my age it does help if you are with a wing man or a group. In these disco I do noticed the girls are more attracted to the younger guys, what girl or ladies in any disco around the world wouldn't. I say kudos to them! I'm old but not insecure and there are just too many options for even old guys like me. Even without a wing man do it, if they do not want you it is their lost move on with a smile and your your ego intact?
I'm been to nearly every Go-Go bar on Walking St, and when you speak of 2500/4500 the leader in pricing has to be Bacarra, which now has extended to the other Happy Group, Happy, Peppermit, not sure of Beach? I've had debates about this that Bacarra has no influence but twice now I have been at Happy, and the girls I spoke to wanted 2500/5000 baht. I've noticed that clubs like Sensation loaded with Agency girls BF is 1500, before midnight and 1,000 after ask standard 2000/3000 when you add it all up it comes pretty close and of course you just do not know what the service is going to be " it is like a box of chocolate? ", Then you have all the others clubs with Agency or Non, pretty much asking for the standard 2000/3000. Basically I now pin point where I visit and when? In my experience I noticed more of the top ones from Soi 6, and Go Go's from LK Metro at the disco than from W.S. just my opinion.
I'm no night owl and staying up all night is not my thing due to many reason plus I have commitments on certain mornings but when I'm free I hit places like Marine, Isaan, Stone, even Bamboo for the older guys like me and found some great 35 year old gals that take good care of themselves. They are not stunners but does not required a bag over their heads providing some incredible service for 1,000/1500 baht all night. And if I do not find anything or do not want to pay the price on the way home I cruise to Soi Honey and get my usual Honey with a massage and ball massage FS for a 1,000 and she looks as good as any Go Go girl I have met. Then there is the Darkside where I live and places close at midnight and when I do not go out to the bright side they call and come to me.
Pattaya is like Hell to me, it is the wild west free to do whatever you want so many choices why would anyone want not to get on a airplane or go to Heaven unless it is Heaven Above.
Eric Swiss
11-23-14, 04:31
I went to Walking Street the other day. Did a few go-go bars, tried Insomnia, and for whatever reason ended up at Rhino. It's very close to the Bali Hai pier end, and normally I don't go down that far, just orbiting around the middle section of WS, so this was my first time at Rhino.
I sat near the back of the go-go bar. Noticed an older (not so old) chick who was good looking and tried to hit on her. Bad luck: it was the mamasan! But she was flattered I had thought she was a coyote, so she set me up with a cute chick who, apparently, liked me. I barfined her for THB 1000 and went short-time for THB 2000. She thought we were going to my hotel but I told her to find a short-term hotel. I'm staying in a classy place a bit far out of the way, so there was no way I would show up with a go-go girl.
In the room she was very GFE. I loved every minute of it! She seemed to be enjoying herself too. She insisted several times that she only goes with guys whom she likes, and I believe her. I've got this feeling that in these go-go bars it's the girls who choose the guys more than the reverse. Sure you can point at a girl and try to take her out, but if she hasn't already put it into her little head that she wants to f*ck your brains out, you'll be disappointed with the waste of money.
Anyway, I was rock hard but I took a long time to come due to all the beers I had drunk. She was very patient, understanding and helpful, and in the end satisfaction was reached! She gave me her phone number, so maybe next time I can set something up with her directly.
Now that the Army is in charge, it looks like the 2 am cutoff is not really operational. WS was pretty lively until at least 4 am. That's a great thing!
Now TellAll you are really blowing smoke up the ass? 5000 baht in the USA Would get you parking outside a massage sneaking around so your friends and family do not spot you. Once inside you get a drop of oil on your balls and your finished?
The airfare from the USA Runs you from 1,000-1500.00 and that is for coach which today I'll be generous and give you a 32-1 exchange rate = 32,000 baht. Sure 5,000 baht and Barfine is high and there are so many options here but if one had or wanted to it is still cheaper that is why everyone endure the hours to get here.
Enjoy.Actually I never fly coach to Asia it's to long a flight for me in coach, but you are correct I go for the variety and the fun of hanging out with like minded friends in a place like that and the all around fun of it. Also my stays there are long. Two to three months at a time.
Don't know about massage parlors here, never been. I do have a couple Asian honeys here that charge me $120 an hour for service, but I have known them a long time. Funny thing is they fuck me for money but don't believe their Ho's cause they also have regular jobs.
I wasn't hating, if someone wants to pay 5000 for a lady in A go go, I say go for it. But if you are wondering why the prices keep going up. It's because guys keep paying it.
The only guys that chap my ass and I hear it a lot from guys over there, is the guys who claim they are getting fucked all the time for free. In Pattaya? Yeah right.
Will be back in January, can't wait.
Is it really 2500ST and 4000 LT!! Fuck!! Have others found that pricing structure at gogos?
JohnTheScot.I got a stunning 19 yo for 3000ST a few weeks ago from a gogo in Walking Street. Bar fine was 700 if I remember well. Anyway no more than 1000.
Every once in a while I try my luck with a gogo girl and in most cases I'm disappointed. But this girl was so damn beautiful and nice and quite fresh from the farm that I just had to have her. She quoted me 3000 and I asked for how long: 1 hour? 2 hours? She said 2 hours so I accepted.
I had a surprisingly good session with her in my hotel. She was just as nice and sweet and easy going outside the gogo as she had been inside, and that is quite rare these days. And she gave an amazingly good BBBJ for a 19 yo.
All in all she stayed in my room for 2 hours so she didn't even make it back to the gogo within 2 hours. So I was really lucky as most girls will quote you 2500 for 1 hour, meaning she has to be back in the gogo after 1 hour maximum. Although honestly I don't know how strict they are on that. Maybe some will say after 50 minutes: time's up, you can jerk off now if you want to cum, I have to go LOL!
Feelz Good
11-23-14, 10:38
To the quiet man who gets more ass in Pattaya than a toilet seat on Walking Street, major thanks to that Pipe Layer. Being a somewhat of a newbie I will never catch up to your female encounters, but I can dream. Just keep it up (in many ways), proud to party with you and have known you. Your guidance and tips paid major dividends in my travels this last trip. You truly are a journeyman of all erotic venues in Pattaya. Thanks again, hope to be back soon!
LittleBigMan
11-23-14, 11:36
Actually I never fly coach to Asia it's to long a flight for me in coach, but you are correct I go for the variety and the fun of hanging out with like minded friends in a place like that and the all around fun of it. Also my stays there are long. Two to three months at a time.
Don't know about massage parlors here, never been. I do have a couple Asian honeys here that charge me $120 an hour for service, but I have known them a long time. Funny thing is they fuck me for money but don't believe their Ho's cause they also have regular jobs.
I wasn't hating, if someone wants to pay 5000 for a lady in A go go, I say go for it. But if you are wondering why the prices keep going up. It's because guys keep paying it.
The only guys that chap my ass and I hear it a lot from guys over there, is the guys who claim they are getting fucked all the time for free. In Pattaya? Yeah right.
Will be back in January, can't wait.Not sure where the hating come in? Did I say that? I never worry about what people are paying what is the point! A few months back I was sitting next to this guy in a go go, I over heard when the Mamasan came to him with a tab for the Barfine 5700 baht, 700 was included the BF, it was for LT. He had the biggest smile on his face. Who the hell was I to tell him he was over paying. The guy was young good looking most likely haven't had it in a year but tonight he was the man? When the girl he pay for came dress and ready to leave I couldn't believe she had the nerve to ask for 5,000 baht. But more power to her she got it!
I not one of those guys who think they are getting it for free, if I did, I would run for the hills because there is got to be a motive for it. I'm old and for sure not handsome! I rather pay for it and when I do I just expect to get the best bang for my baht?
Member #4698
11-23-14, 16:09
I'm been to nearly every Go-Go bar on Walking St, and when you speak of 2500/4500 the leader in pricing has to be Bacarra, which now has extended to the other Happy Group, Happy, Peppermit, not sure of Beach? I've had debates about this that Bacarra has no influence but twice now I have been at Happy, and the girls I spoke to wanted 2500/5000 baht. I've noticed that clubs like Sensation loaded with Agency girls BF is 1500, before midnight and 1,000 after ask standard 2000/3000 when you add it all up it comes pretty close and of course you just do not know what the service is going to be " it is like a box of chocolate? ", Then you have all the others clubs with Agency or Non, pretty much asking for the standard 2000/3000.
Pattaya is like Hell to me, it is the wild west free to do whatever you want so many choices why would anyone want not to get on a airplane or go to Heaven unless it is Heaven Above.This is my experience as well. My Happy girl wanted 2500 bt for ST and the barfine was 700 bt for a grand total of 3200. I thought the 2500 bt was a tad high considering that the previous night my hot Sensations agency girl only wanted 2000 bt for ST although the Sensations barfine was 1000 bt /1500 bt before and after midnight for a grand total of 3500 (it was 9:30 pm when I wanted to take her and I did not feel like waiting 2. 5 hours to save 500 bt.) I did not negotiate with either girl and I bought a couple of rounds to Tequila both nights to warm us up before I got around to asking them out. Both girls gave me excellent service and we spent a few hours together. ST was 1 shot and they did not spend the night although both girls were more than wiling to stay longer and have more sex. In fact the Happy girl was very interested in hooking up again the next night and she called me around 9:30 pm to see what I was up to. I was at Lisa Bar at the time and I told her to come join me there for a drink. 15 minutes later she arrived on a motorcycle taxi. She ended up staying the night and we had multiple shags. I gave her 4000 bt in the morning and she was very happy with that amount. There was no barfine.
The point of my post is that I look upon quoted Go Go prices as a beginning framework and I consider these prices as more or less non negotiable for the first time I take a girl. I never negotiate! If the price is too high I withdraw my invitation because an outrageous price quote is usually an indication the girl does not want to go with me. This is never a big deal because there are hundreds of girls waiting in the wings that are just dying for me to show some interest in them. PATTAYA IS STILL A BUYERS MARKET! My modus operandi is to spend a little time with the girls I am attracted to and to size her up before we even start talking about barfines to make sure she is ok. Besides, I am on holiday and I like to have a good time in the bar and elsewhere before taking my girl to my hotel room. I usually buy a couple rounds of Tequila shots to loosen everybody up including myself. The result is I am nearly always given a great response from my Pattaya and BKK Go Go girls. I can't even remember when my the last disappointing session was. It had to be a couple of years ago. I can only assume that guys not getting good service either don't know how to have a good time with a bar girl, or have lousy personalities and are probably cheap bastards and like to negotiate hard with the girls, or they have really bad personal hygiene.
One more tip for relating to Go Go girls: for 1st time takeouts I recommend only go ST. If everything is good chances are she will be more than willing to stay longer or want to see you again and this 4500-5000 bt LT thing won't even come up. But if it does you can just say that is a little too high and so you prefer to keep it ST. I personally consider 4000bt my ceiling for Walking Street Go Go quality LT although if the girl is truly sensational and I already had sex with her and know how good she is, I would probably pay up and not let 500bt get in my way. But this is not a negotiation. I find my girls are much more friendly and willing to go LT at more reasonable rates (we don't even talk money) after they have had my dick inside them at least once and the ice between us has been broken. These are good girls. I treat them right and more times than not, I receive a lot more from them in return. It is called the GFE.
Uncle Volodya
11-23-14, 17:38
Seen a lot of stuff on here recently about FL in discos. I have had a few but never been my thing. Seems to be a lot of good reports about it now though. Think I will try a bit more of that. I'm a young 42 year old who dresses well. Think You need a wing man for disco though? Or have you had easy solo fun there? Seems harder to get the "in" on your own whereas a gogo is "you sit down, they come talk to you".
Did always notice that there were much better looking girls in disco than gogo. But by then I had a gogo girl with me and couldn't do anything about it. Did have a few girls try to touch my hand as walking past etc so that's a good sign. I think.
Which are the good ones at the moment. Not been since last year.
Will try it and report on my findings. Helps that I am a Hansum man though, so you might not all be so lucky.
JohnTheScot.You don't really need a wingman. Check my posts from my May and August trips to see how its done. Dress nice -like you would to go to a club back home, approach with a big smile, and be confident (not cocky) and its like shooting fish in a barrel.
Stay horny my friend...
Uncle-V
I can only assume that guys not getting good service either don't know how to have a good time with a bar girl, or have lousy personalities and are probably cheap bastards and like to negotiate hard with the girls, or they have really bad personal hygiene.NB, You write excellent reports, among the best, and you provide quite a bit of intel. I, and probably many other mongers, are thankful for that.
But, you blew it here. You assumed wrong! You are comparing your personal experience to that of other folks. One may not be a cheap bastard, may not negotiate hard with the girls, has good hygiene, etc... And one can still have a lousy session. All it takes is a money hungry provider and a few drinks. It is not always easy to identify them, after you have been drinking.
NB, You write excellent reports, among the best, and you provide quite a bit of intel. I, and probably many other mongers, are thankful for that.
But, you blew it here. You assumed wrong! You are comparing your personal experience to that of other folks. One may not be a cheap bastard, may not negotiate hard with the girls, has good hygiene, etc... And one can still have a lousy session. All it takes is a money hungry provider and a few drinks. It is not always easy to identify them, after you have been drinking.NB,
You blew it, you forgot about being a drunk!
DG8787.
Now TellAll you are really blowing smoke up the ass? 5000 baht in the USA Would get you parking outside a massage sneaking around so your friends and family do not spot you. Once inside you get a drop of oil on your balls and your finished?Not true, my friend. I live in the Bay Area and I get some excellent Asian pussy at $160 per hour. The girls tend to be on the older side (30+), GND looks, but they can excel in service. Since I live here and I belong to a couple of boards, I have enough intel to identify the good ones, and there are plenty. Now, when I upgrade to the $200 level (which I do quite often), we're talking some real eye candy chicks. So, I am with TellAll on this one.
However, I still like to travel to Pattaya every year, and I don't care how much they charge. For me it is still worth the trip. Nothing compares to Pattaya.
Member #4698
11-23-14, 23:03
NB, you blew it here. You assumed wrong! You are comparing your personal experience to that of other folks. One may not be a cheap bastard, may not negotiate hard with the girls, has good hygiene, etc... And one can still have a lousy session. All it takes is a money hungry provider and a few drinks. It is not always easy to identify them, after you have been drinking.I disagree. All I have to go on are my personal experiences, Lefeu, and all I am saying is these personal experiences should not be that much different from anyone else's in the Pattaya Go Go environment. I have no inside information or special relationships going on in the Pattaya bars although a few girls always remember me from previous trips and it is always nice to get back together with them. I admit that in Baccara BKK where I am very well known, I do receive special attention and treatment because I am considered a loyal regular customer. LOL. I never abuse my special privileges and just like to blend into the scene. I am looking forward to my next trip real bad.
My only assumption here is that I am pretty much like everybody else i.e. I am a slightly above average American punter in looks and spending capacity with a fair amount of experience who walks into popular Walking Street Go Go's cold turkey with a good attitude and a sharp eye. I know the price structure before I walk through the door. I also know Thai Go Go girls and their body language and facial gestures. That is one of the ways I can usually tell when something is not right. I truly believe that if punters spent a little time with a girl getting to know her, having some fun, and trying to create a little chemistry the percentage of quality barfines will dramatically increase and certain bad signs or tells would emerge that will warn a discerning punter off the girl if he is paying any attention. My methods are not fool proof and anybody including myself can have a bad Go Go girl experience once in a long while. I would say 1 bad experience in 10 is acceptable although these stats can definitely be improved upon. If a punter is getting less favorable experiences on Walking Street then I am saying something is wrong. And RTFF. There are certain bars that are no good and foster really bad attitudes in their girls. One should avoid those bars at all cost. But following my methods which are just based on just good common sense, the odds of barfining a bad girl should really decrease markedly. All I am saying is it works for me plus I have a real good time hunting in the bars and Go Go's. This is what I call entertainment. Oh yeah, I love Thai Bar Girls. I think that helps a lot although at the same time I never play the fool.
NB,
You blew it, you forgot about being a drunk!
DG8787.Two or three Tequilas don't make me or most bar girls drunk. I find that all a couple shots do is loosen things up and creates a warm party vibe between me and the girl (s) that is very conducive for having great sex later. If a couple of shots of Tequila has a negative effect on you then by all means cut that step out. You should still be able to get friendly with your girls, create a little chemistry while you are sizing her up, and looking for any tells before considering barfining her. Take your time, enjoy the hunt, and have a great time every step of the way are all still essential.
I disagree. All I have to go on are my personal experiences, Lefeu, and all I am saying is these personal experiences should not be that much different from anyone else's in the Pattaya Go Go environment...My only assumption here is that I am pretty much like everybody else NB, I should know better than to criticize you. IMO, you are a treasure to ISG. Really, what I meant to say is that your experience applies to a certain segment of the mongering population, namely Caucasians and Asian ethnicity. It does not apply to all other ethnicity. BTW, I tried to send you this message via a PM but your inbox is apparently full.
NB,
You blew it, you forgot about being a drunk!
DG8787.I am one of those guys that like to drink. That's why I do my mongering before my cocktail hour hits.
When I meet a girl that interest me after my drinking starts, I'll talk and buy a drink or two to check the chemistry and for warning signs. Even if all seems well I don't take her that night. I return another day when I'm not boozing as much.
It works in my favor when I tell them I came back just to see them.
Not true, my friend. I live in the Bay Area and I get some excellent Asian pussy at $160 per hour. The girls tend to be on the older side (30+), GND looks, but they can excel in service. Since I live here and I belong to a couple of boards, I have enough intel to identify the good ones, and there are plenty. Now, when I upgrade to the $200 level (which I do quite often), we're talking some real eye candy chicks. So, I am with TellAll on this one.
However, I still like to travel to Pattaya every year, and I don't care how much they charge. For me it is still worth the trip. Nothing compares to Pattaya.I love it there also. Always have a blast. I don't really go anywhere mongering to save money. I go to have fun.
I just have my limit on what I am willing to spend on a woman in a particular market, including the USA.
I assume everyone does it just varies from monger to monger.
LittleBigMan
11-24-14, 03:02
Not true, my friend. I live in the Bay Area and I get some excellent Asian pussy at $160 per hour. The girls tend to be on the older side (30+), GND looks, but they can excel in service. Since I live here and I belong to a couple of boards, I have enough intel to identify the good ones, and there are plenty. Now, when I upgrade to the $200 level (which I do quite often), we're talking some real eye candy chicks. So, I am with TellAll on this one.
However, I still like to travel to Pattaya every year, and I don't care how much they charge. For me it is still worth the trip. Nothing compares to Pattaya.I too am from the City as they call it? So I do know a thing about Massage parlors. I do not disagree with you but as you know if you know massage parlor they are not what they were in the 90's, after the raid on human traffic it has not been the same. Pretty much gone OnLine? But there are still some good places as you noted.
But I was just as they say stretching to make a point! Even at the prices you refer take that amount and you can get much more than a hour! And that is why you come as you noted!
Uncle Volodya
11-24-14, 07:48
IYou should still be able to get friendly with your girls, create a little chemistry while you are sizing her up, and looking for any tells before considering barfining her. Take your time, enjoy the hunt, and have a great time every step of the way are all still essential.Wise words, as always, my friend.
I find the mistake that I have made is getting fixated on a girl and ignoring the tell tale signs that I should abort mission. You start thinking that you can make her like you. This may be true, but it really is not worth the hassle and it is more likely end badly when the chemistry is not there from the get go.
Like you said, its a buyers market -- best to move on when you start feeling you are not clicking with the girl. When I have followed this strategy its always turned out really well for me. One time I was with an absolute stunner at Crystals but the vibe was just not right. So I bailed on her and moved on to Destiny and had a gorgeous bar girl literally jump off stage into my arms to make out with me. Went back to my pad for one of my most memorable shags ever.
Mr Enternational
11-24-14, 13:00
I've noticed that clubs like Sensation loaded with Agency girls BF is 1500, before midnight and 1,000 after ask standard 2000/3000 when you add it all up it comes pretty close and of course you just do not know what the service is going to be " it is like a box of chocolate? ", Then you have all the others clubs with Agency or Non, pretty much asking for the standard 2000/3000. Basically I now pin point where I visit and when? In my experience I noticed more of the top ones from Soi 6, and Go Go's from LK Metro at the disco than from W.S. just my opinion.Thanks. That just reminded me that I took a chick from the disco the other night who said she worked for a modeling agency. I asked what she did. She said they go work at an agogo for 10 days then after the 10 days they switch to another one. Really nothing special about this chick to me. Just like all of the other ones. I gave her 1000 LT. Just goes to show once again: same girl, different venue, different price.
I went to Walking Street the other day. Did a few go-go bars, tried Insomnia, and for whatever reason ended up at Rhino. It's very close to the Bali Hai pier end, and normally I don't go down that far, just orbiting around the middle section of WS, so this was my first time at Rhino.
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Anyway, I was rock hard but I took a long time to come due to all the beers I had drunk. She was very patient, understanding and helpful, and in the end satisfaction was reached! She gave me her phone number, so maybe next time I can set something up with her directly.
Now that the Army is in charge, it looks like the 2 am cutoff is not really operational. WS was pretty lively until at least 4 am. That's a great thing!That's an interesting coincidence. I just wanted to write about my experience at Rhino. I visited the place several times in the past and found a few great gals there. However, then it deteriorated and for a while even became an open bar. They must have noticed their mistake. It is a normal go go bar again.
When I was there on Saturday, a quite nice girl came to me. She was not perfectly my type. But what she told me made sense. She said that I should not buy her drinks, but she prefers a tip. She needs money to pay for her room. She would give me a great service and do a great BJ. Since this sounded credible, I agreed. She also said that she would stay LT, which normally would be 4000. But she would do it for 3000 (which used to be the normal rate just a couple of months ago). ST would be 2500, by the way. Bar fine was 1000, which I reluctantly accepted.
However, when we left, she told me that she made a mistake. She had been in the bar for only a few days and had not been taken out since. Therefore, she did not know that the bar fine for ST is 1500. What the f! Such bar fine is definitely beyond my limit, and I told her no way.
Well, at my hotel, we really had a great time. She gave me a good BBBJ and I gave her a DATY until she almost came. Then we did the deed for quite a while, and she came at least once. Finally, I also shot my load. Then, however, she was nervous. She said that either she has to pay the 500 additional bar fine, or she has to go back to the bar. Since I had my relief already and since I was hungry, I told her to go back to Rhino. I accompanied her, and while she went back to the bar, I had a nice after-midnight dinner.
Now, she keeps texting and calling me (we exchanged numbers). Perhaps, I will do her once again during day time, without any bar fine and with a discount rate.
Wonderer.
ActionOriented
11-24-14, 13:22
Thanks. That just reminded me that I took a chick from the disco the other night who said she worked for a modeling agency. I asked what she did. She said they go work at an agogo for 10 days then after the 10 days they switch to another one. Really nothing special about this chick to me. Just like all of the other ones. I gave her 1000 LT. Just goes to show once again: same girl, different venue, different price.LOL. Then some more LOL. Since there are so many Go-Gos in Pattaya and not that many punters who are lose with their purse-strings (paying ridiculous bar fines and ST / LT rates), they are having to do freelance work. Well, no surprises.
Hope Pipe and you are hitting the town hard, how's the high season coming along? (not too many reports forthcoming on either the BKK or Pats pages generally).
NB,
You blew it, you forgot about being a drunk!
DG8787.Sorry guys, I wasn't calling anyone a drunk. I was just adding drunkiness to the list of undesirable things to some bg's.
Pinaypounder
11-24-14, 23:43
Gentlemen and esteemed colleagues.
I was in Pattaya in September and went to obtain some Cialus. The Pharmachist, apparently an honet lady said I need a Prescription and in its place recommended an Item whose name I can not recall. It came in a package of 4 pills and the pills were capsules large capsules full of black pellets.
Can anyone provide the name of this pill.
It was slow to react but work well and lasted about 36 hours if I recalled. There were no side or after affects at all.
I would buy again.
You help would be appreciated.
PP.
Eric Swiss
11-25-14, 02:39
That's an interesting coincidence. I just wanted to write about my experience at Rhino. I visited the place several times in the past and found a few great gals there. However, then it deteriorated and for a while even became an open bar. They must have noticed their mistake. It is a normal go go bar again.
When I was there on Saturday, a quite nice girl came to me.
(...)
Now, she keeps texting and calling me (we exchanged numbers). Perhaps, I will do her once again during day time, without any bar fine and with a discount rate.
If there is an emerging pattern of Rhino girls willing to exchange phone numbers with the men and make private arrangements behind the back of the management, then maybe they are not being treated competitively in terms of money and / or rules by Rhino?
Thanks. That just reminded me that I took a chick from the disco the other night who said she worked for a modeling agency. I asked what she did. She said they go work at an agogo for 10 days then after the 10 days they switch to another one.I have been told a similar story by a modeling agency coyote some time ago. I believe it was in Sensations agogo. She said they have to work for 10 days in a row and then they can do whatever they want. They can work another 10 days, go back home for a week or a year, take a vacation, whatever.
So what it comes down to is they have to work for at least 10 days whenever and where ever they want and for the rest it is completely up to them. For a fixed salary and of course the revenue from the lady drinks and the bar fines (if they do bar fines).
I've seen worse working conditions, LOL!
SnoozyBoozy
11-25-14, 05:18
Hey all,
I have been a regular on ISG, but this is my first post in Pattaya forum, I had visited Thailand few months ago, and would love to share my experience, maybe some of you can get some good tips from it. Please excuse me for a long FR, just wanted to be as detailed as possible.
We were a group of 4, while all of them flew in from the middle east, I flew in from India.
Landed at Bangkok (BKK) airport and took a taxi to Pattaya, checked into Hotel Nova, which is a girl friendly hotel that does not charge extra for guests you bring in at any time of the day, but, the girl needs to have an I'd. Hotel rates were pretty reasonable, check online to get better deals. There's also a list of girl friendly hotels online.
We reached Pattaya at about 1 PM, checked into our rooms, freshened up, and then headed to Sabai Soapy massage. It was my first soapy experience, must say it was the best, and as the day progressed, it got better. Damage was THB 2500 + THB 200 tips for 2 pops. You just need to tell the girl before the act that you would like 2 pops within the stipulated time. Grabbed some lunch after the soapy, walked a bit around walking street, and headed back to the hotel for a nice power nap.
Stepped out of the hotel again at about 8 pm after chalking out a plan over few drinks in our rooms, (four of us had our own separate rooms). Went strolling around walking street, checking out all the GO GO bars, and ended up in Moulin Rouge, loved the European women out there, who give you excellent lap dances for a mere tip of THB 100. Don't really remember how many of them gave me a lap dance. You also have an option of buying them a lady drink of THB 400. Which is pointless, as the woman who you buy a drink for, would stick to you like she's your GF. The idea in Pattaya is not to stick to a single girl, and try to get a feel of the maximum number of girls, so I wouldn't recommend buying that lady drink, and rather tip every girl THB 100 you might end up getting about 10-12 lap dances, which is better than having one girl sit next to you, and whisper sweet nothings.
Moving on.
We stepped out at about 10 PM, had some delicious street food (Turkish and Thai) and headed to Club Mixx. It's at the other end of Walking Street, reached the venue and kind of got offended by the club's manager, and security, since they were insisting us to take a table and buy 2 bottles of alcohol if we wanted to enter. Its not that we couldn't pay, by why dictate terms to enter? We noticed that they were doing so, since we were brown skinned, and they might have felt that we couldn't afford to buy any drinks, and were only entering to see women, didn't like this kind of discrimination, as we 4 were pretty loaded, and ready to throw money, but wisely. So we left Mixx without much hesitation, and headed towards Insomnia.
At Insomnia, we were greeted at the gate, and led up stairs, they had some good offers on alcohol, THB 2000 for a bottle of Baccardi, which entitles us to get a table on the dance floor, THB 2000 for a bottle is a reasonable deal, so we picked up 2 bottles, mixers and some finger food, and got us a table on the dance floor. Once you get a table, a lot of girls approach you for lady drinks, which if I'm not mistaken, costs about THB 200 for a shot of tequila or whatever is in those shot glasses.
In Insomnia, there are 2 types of women, some who work for the bar as dancers, and some who come in as free lancers. The best way to know who is who, is to buy lady drinks for the dancers, who will then join you in your table, but these dancers can only leave the club with you after 4 am, and that too with a bar fine of THB 1000-1500. But that doesn't mean they won't help you get hooked up with a free lancers. All you need to do is chat up with the dancers, get friendly, buy them drinks, and they would parade you with the best freelancers, or whichever girl you point out to. So like I said, they got us girls, who negotiated a deal of THB 3000 for the whole night, after fixing the deal, the fun began.
Freelance girls are either working in other Gogo bars, or have a day job and as claimed by them, they do no go out on a regular basis with men, they just do it for fun and some extra money over the weekends. I still don't know how much of this is true though. But surely, freelance girls give you the perfect GFE that you may want to enjoy at a club, and back in your hotel room.
Day 2- bid good bye to the girl after some breakfast, as her shift at the salon she works in starts at 12. Then headed to some of the malls to do a bit of shopping and lunch. Post lunch, headed to Honey Soapy massage (Honey 1), picked up a nice dusky big busted chic, who looked like a mix of Latin and Thai (I could compare her to a slightly dusky Tera Patrick), although she was very mechanical, she had the most amazing eyes, figure and skin. I couldn't hold my load for too long, and blew it out. Post Honey, headed out for some authentic Thai massage, wasn't expecting anything other than a massage, but it surely loosened up every part of my body, so relaxing that I just felt like going back to my hotel room for some deep sleep. Fought that feeling, and headed back to Walking street.
The same drill as day 1. Visited some GoGos, got a few lap dance and by the time it was 11 pm, headed to Insomnia. The experience was great the previous night, we didn't want to waste any more time exploring other places. This time, we were treated as VIP (considering the fact that we spent about THB 30000 the previous night, buying drinks for almost all the dancers, and some free lancers, tipping the door man, and most waiters). As we entered, the security escorted us with torches, and led us through the crowded club to our table, we were greeted by most of the bar dancers, and waiters. Felt good to be treated right. (unlike that shit hole MIXX). Once settled, we ordered our regular, but this time, stuck to just 1 bottle, since all of us were feeling a little lethargic after that Thai massage. The bar girls got more friendly with us, giving us lap dances, on our table, and also DFK's whenever they got close. One of the bar girl, also took me into their changing room, and gave me a nice BBBJ all for THB 500. Why not!!
Picked up a sweet red headed girl recommended by the bar dancer, (who I'm still in touch with on FB). Had a nice session with her in my room which ended up till breakfast. Multiple showers together after each session, BBBJ in the shower you name it, I got it all.
After breakfast, we checked out of the hotel, and headed to BKK, where we planned to spend a day. I must say, compared to Pattaya, BKK is disappointing, not many choices, since we heard that the clubs get full on a Saturday night, and your chances of getting a good freelancer is minimal. So we ended up going to NEP, which was like a shopping mall with GOGO bars, went to one club, loved most of the girls there, picked up 3 girls and struck up a deal with the mamasan for THB 4000 for the night, for each girl, and THB 700 as bar fine. My friends picked up their chicks, but I couldn't find a good one, but I kept noticing the bar manager, she was hot, and very busy running from table to table, ensuring the patrons are fine. I asked mamasan if she is available, and Bingo. I struck a deal with her for THB 4000. The girl was hot, a bit dusky, short haired, 36 the and smelt great, the best part was, she spoke perfect english. But the only issue was, she slept off after 1 pop, I was hoping to get a second pop in the morning, but we were rudely awaken by the mamasan's phone call who demanded the girls to return back to the den. That was a disappointment.
Headed for some more shopping, and then went to Annie's soapy. Had an awesome experience there too, once done, headed straight to the airport, and was on my way back to India.
I hope my FR on this trip was detailed enough to give some of you a hint on what to expect and what's best to do in Pattaya. I would recommend Pattaya more than BKK, as next time, we would only head to BKK to catch a flight, and nothing else, and if we have 3 hours before our flight, I'll go to Annie's.
Once again, sorry for the long FR. Hope it helps.
Cheers!
Uncle Volodya
11-25-14, 17:00
Hey all,
I have been a regular on ISG, but this is my first post in Pattaya forum, I had visited Thailand few months ago, and would love to share my experience, maybe some of you can get some good tips from it. Please excuse me for a long FR, just wanted to be as detailed as possible.
Great 1st report Snoozy! If I ever get married I'll put you in charge of organizing the Bachelor Party. Haha!
I to am a big fan of Insomnia, though I stick to the down stairs bar where I think the music is much better. It can get pretty crowded upstairs, and since I am usually flying solo it does not make much sense to get a table.
Stay horny my friend.
Uncle V.
Hey all,
I have been a regular on ISG, but this is my first post in Pattaya forum, I had visited Thailand few months ago, and would love to share my experience, maybe some of you can get some good tips from it. Please excuse me for a long FR, just wanted to be as detailed as possible.
We were a group of 4, while all of them flew in from the middle east, I flew in from India.
Landed at Bangkok (BKK) airport and took a taxi to Pattaya, checked into Hotel Nova, which is a girl friendly hotel that does not charge extra for guests you bring in at any time of the day, but, the girl needs to have an I'd. Hotel rates were pretty reasonable, check online to get better deals. There's also a list of girl friendly hotels online.
We reached Pattaya at about 1 PM, checked into our rooms, freshened up, and then headed to Sabai Soapy massage. It was my first soapy experience, must say it was the best, and as the day progressed, it got better. Damage was THB 2500 + THB 200 tips for 2 pops. You just need to tell the girl before the act that you would like 2 pops within the stipulated time. Grabbed some lunch after the soapy, walked a bit around walking street, and headed back to the hotel for a nice power nap.
Stepped out of the hotel again at about 8 pm after chalking out a plan over few drinks in our rooms, (four of us had our own separate rooms). Went strolling around walking street, checking out all the GO GO bars, and ended up in Moulin Rouge, loved the European women out there, who give you excellent lap dances for a mere tip of THB 100. Don't really remember how many of them gave me a lap dance. You also have an option of buying them a lady drink of THB 400. Which is pointless, as the woman who you buy a drink for, would stick to you like she's your GF. The idea in Pattaya is not to stick to a single girl, and try to get a feel of the maximum number of girls, so I wouldn't recommend buying that lady drink, and rather tip every girl THB 100 you might end up getting about 10-12 lap dances, which is better than having one girl sit next to you, and whisper sweet nothings.
Moving on.
We stepped out at about 10 PM, had some delicious street food (Turkish and Thai) and headed to Club Mixx. It's at the other end of Walking Street, reached the venue and kind of got offended by the club's manager, and security, since they were insisting us to take a table and buy 2 bottles of alcohol if we wanted to enter. Its not that we couldn't pay, by why dictate terms to enter? We noticed that they were doing so, since we were brown skinned, and they might have felt that we couldn't afford to buy any drinks, and were only entering to see women, didn't like this kind of discrimination, as we 4 were pretty loaded, and ready to throw money, but wisely. So we left Mixx without much hesitation, and headed towards Insomnia.
At Insomnia, we were greeted at the gate, and led up stairs, they had some good offers on alcohol, THB 2000 for a bottle of Baccardi, which entitles us to get a table on the dance floor, THB 2000 for a bottle is a reasonable deal, so we picked up 2 bottles, mixers and some finger food, and got us a table on the dance floor. Once you get a table, a lot of girls approach you for lady drinks, which if I'm not mistaken, costs about THB 200 for a shot of tequila or whatever is in those shot glasses.
In Insomnia, there are 2 types of women, some who work for the bar as dancers, and some who come in as free lancers. The best way to know who is who, is to buy lady drinks for the dancers, who will then join you in your table, but these dancers can only leave the club with you after 4 am, and that too with a bar fine of THB 1000-1500. But that doesn't mean they won't help you get hooked up with a free lancers. All you need to do is chat up with the dancers, get friendly, buy them drinks, and they would parade you with the best freelancers, or whichever girl you point out to. So like I said, they got us girls, who negotiated a deal of THB 3000 for the whole night, after fixing the deal, the fun began.
Freelance girls are either working in other Gogo bars, or have a day job and as claimed by them, they do no go out on a regular basis with men, they just do it for fun and some extra money over the weekends. I still don't know how much of this is true though. But surely, freelance girls give you the perfect GFE that you may want to enjoy at a club, and back in your hotel room.
Day 2- bid good bye to the girl after some breakfast, as her shift at the salon she works in starts at 12. Then headed to some of the malls to do a bit of shopping and lunch. Post lunch, headed to Honey Soapy massage (Honey 1), picked up a nice dusky big busted chic, who looked like a mix of Latin and Thai (I could compare her to a slightly dusky Tera Patrick), although she was very mechanical, she had the most amazing eyes, figure and skin. I couldn't hold my load for too long, and blew it out. Post Honey, headed out for some authentic Thai massage, wasn't expecting anything other than a massage, but it surely loosened up every part of my body, so relaxing that I just felt like going back to my hotel room for some deep sleep. Fought that feeling, and headed back to Walking street.
The same drill as day 1. Visited some GoGos, got a few lap dance and by the time it was 11 pm, headed to Insomnia. The experience was great the previous night, we didn't want to waste any more time exploring other places. This time, we were treated as VIP (considering the fact that we spent about THB 30000 the previous night, buying drinks for almost all the dancers, and some free lancers, tipping the door man, and most waiters). As we entered, the security escorted us with torches, and led us through the crowded club to our table, we were greeted by most of the bar dancers, and waiters. Felt good to be treated right. (unlike that shit hole MIXX). Once settled, we ordered our regular, but this time, stuck to just 1 bottle, since all of us were feeling a little lethargic after that Thai massage. The bar girls got more friendly with us, giving us lap dances, on our table, and also DFK's whenever they got close. One of the bar girl, also took me into their changing room, and gave me a nice BBBJ all for THB 500. Why not!!
Picked up a sweet red headed girl recommended by the bar dancer, (who I'm still in touch with on FB). Had a nice session with her in my room which ended up till breakfast. Multiple showers together after each session, BBBJ in the shower you name it, I got it all.
After breakfast, we checked out of the hotel, and headed to BKK, where we planned to spend a day. I must say, compared to Pattaya, BKK is disappointing, not many choices, since we heard that the clubs get full on a Saturday night, and your chances of getting a good freelancer is minimal. So we ended up going to NEP, which was like a shopping mall with GOGO bars, went to one club, loved most of the girls there, picked up 3 girls and struck up a deal with the mamasan for THB 4000 for the night, for each girl, and THB 700 as bar fine. My friends picked up their chicks, but I couldn't find a good one, but I kept noticing the bar manager, she was hot, and very busy running from table to table, ensuring the patrons are fine. I asked mamasan if she is available, and Bingo. I struck a deal with her for THB 4000. The girl was hot, a bit dusky, short haired, 36 the and smelt great, the best part was, she spoke perfect english. But the only issue was, she slept off after 1 pop, I was hoping to get a second pop in the morning, but we were rudely awaken by the mamasan's phone call who demanded the girls to return back to the den. That was a disappointment.
Headed for some more shopping, and then went to Annie's soapy. Had an awesome experience there too, once done, headed straight to the airport, and was on my way back to India.
I hope my FR on this trip was detailed enough to give some of you a hint on what to expect and what's best to do in Pattaya. I would recommend Pattaya more than BKK, as next time, we would only head to BKK to catch a flight, and nothing else, and if we have 3 hours before our flight, I'll go to Annie's.
Once again, sorry for the long FR. Hope it helps.
Cheers!Hey man great report, very detailed I visited pattaya last month too, first week of October, first post here on the pattaya forum will definitely share my experience soon, but I just wanted to say I think you payed a bit too much for the girls, don't get me wrong I paid a lot of money too but when it came down to the girls even the most attractive ones at insomnia cost around 2000, and even then I negotiated her down to 1000-1500 and I haven't heard of lady drinks for the freelancers. I'm all for paying for fun with money not being an object but if you can save some for more fun why shouldn't you?
IllusionHeart
11-25-14, 17:46
Hey all,
Club Mixx. It's at the other end of Walking Street, reached the venue and kind of got offended by the club's manager, and security, since they were insisting us to take a table and buy 2 bottles of alcohol if we wanted to enter. Its not that we couldn't pay, by why dictate terms to enter? We noticed that they were doing so, since we were brown skinned, and they might have felt that we couldn't afford to buy any drinks, and were only entering to see women, didn't like this kind of discrimination, as we 4 were pretty loaded, and ready to throw money, but wisely. So we left Mixx without much hesitation, and headed towards Insomnia.
(unlike that shit hole MIXX).
Cheers!Thanks for the FR SnoozyBoozy. My doubts about Mixx being racist now seem to be confirmed. I had gone to the one in Intercontinental, Bangkok in first week of November and was turned down saying it was a "Members Only" night even though I was alone. Thought mine would have been a rare occurrence. I still don't know if both are being run by the some private management or intercontinental management or not but attitude is definitely same I. E. Purely racist.
I don't visit or avoid as much as possible unless any buddy desperately insists on a place which sees money as white, black or brown instead of green. Mixx seems to be one of such places.
Good you guys ignored the place and moved on like I did rather then giving into their stupid dictat on how one should enter their club.
IllusionHeart
11-25-14, 18:00
Hey man great report, very detailed I visited pattaya last month too, first week of October, first post here on the pattaya forum will definitely share my experience soon, but I just wanted to say I think you payed a bit too much for the girls, don't get me wrong I paid a lot of money too but when it came down to the girls even the most attractive ones at insomnia cost around 2000, and even then I negotiated her down to 1000-1500 and I haven't heard of lady drinks for the freelancers. I'm all for paying for fun with money not being an object but if you can save some for more fun why shouldn't you?Rightly said Moegy, not only one can save money for having more fun but paying such prices ruins the market place also for everyone else. I am a sucker for Bar FLs and prefer to visit such places over go go's as I have had good GFE with these girls in past. I would definitely mind if a girl started asking me double or triple price for no logical reason whatsoever.
I committed mistake of paying what the girls asked for during my maiden trip to BKK in Spasso, Climax, etc in November first week. But as beginners luck was favouring me in terms of quality of women encountered I put it behind as a rookie mistake.
There is no way I will be paying similar prices on my next trip for sure. This forum provides experiences and FRs from Seniors and members at all times and is a good benchmark for prices to be paid.
SnoozyBoozy
11-26-14, 04:53
Hey guys,
Thanks for the tips. It was my first time in Thailand, and all 3 of my friends who accompanied me, had been there at least twice or thrice before, and all of us were under the impression that standard rates for an overnight with a freelancer was THB 3000 in Pattaya, and THB 4000 in BKK. I should have negotiated harder. Well that's something to learn for next time. Will bring down the prices.
We were comparing prices to Soapy massages, which starts from THB 2000-THB 3000 depending on the parlours, so we thought THB 3000 was a good deal for an LT session. Will be careful next time. And BTW I forgot to mention in my FR, one of my friends who was with us in Pattaya, on the second night, took the same girl which he took the first night, and she didn't take a penny from him the second time. So it all depends on the rapport you build with the girls.
The best part is, I have made quite a few freelancer friends in Pattaya, that I just need to inform them before visiting next time, and probably I could sneak a pop for free.
At Uncle V: We can plan for your bachelors when its time.
At Illusionheart: Mixx is not the only place that is racist, there are couple of GOGO bars in NEP, BKK, that have similar kind of discrimination.
LittleBigMan
11-26-14, 06:13
Hey man great report, very detailed I visited pattaya last month too, first week of October, first post here on the pattaya forum will definitely share my experience soon, but I just wanted to say I think you payed a bit too much for the girls, don't get me wrong I paid a lot of money too but when it came down to the girls even the most attractive ones at insomnia cost around 2000, and even then I negotiated her down to 1000-1500 and I haven't heard of lady drinks for the freelancers. I'm all for paying for fun with money not being an object but if you can save some for more fun why shouldn't you?The Racism issue does exist at Mixx and it is a shame it happens but Mixx is not the only one. Although a good report I came away with a sense that the BM was compensating by paying more?
Mr Enternational
11-26-14, 06:27
Thanks. That just reminded me that I took a chick from the disco the other night who said she worked for a modeling agency. I asked what she did. She said they go work at an agogo for 10 days then after the 10 days they switch to another one. Really nothing special about this chick to me. Just like all of the other ones. I gave her 1000 LT. Just goes to show once again: same girl, different venue, different price.This is the chick.
The Racism issue does exist at Mixx and it is a shame it happens but Mixx is not the only one. Although a good report I came away with a sense that the BM was compensating by paying more?I have seen small examples of racism there, but to be honest I was with a friend who was visiting pattaya for like the 30th time so I got to sit in a lot of bars after closing times and chat with the mama sans and girls. It's usually based on previous situations that have happened. For example the one I was speaking to does not allow people of Indian origins in her bar, reasons several counts of beating the girls, getting drunk and throwing up in the bar and many others. These can happen from anyone but given that it has by chance only happened by this certain group just made her ban them.
Still unfair but like the fellow below did you can just move on to the next bar.
Uncle Volodya
11-26-14, 15:07
At Uncle V: We can plan for your bachelors when its time.
Haha! Thanks Snoozy! At least I now have one good reason to get married. But lets try to keep the price of this BP down. 2K LT is probably the limit for LT on FLs and we should try for 1.5K as the average.
Nice and detailed FR.
We (I + 5) too also planning for one bachelor party in Thailand.
Your FR is really helpful.
Hey all,
I have been a regular on ISG, but this is my first post in Pattaya forum, I had visited Thailand few months ago, and would love to share my experience, maybe some of you can get some good tips from it. Please excuse me for a long FR, just wanted to be as detailed as possible.
We were a group of 4, while all of them flew in from the middle east, I flew in from India.
Landed at Bangkok (BKK) airport and took a taxi to Pattaya, checked into Hotel Nova, which is a girl friendly hotel that does not charge extra for guests you bring in at any time of the day, but, the girl needs to have an I'd. Hotel rates were pretty reasonable, check online to get better deals. There's also a list of girl friendly hotels online.
We reached Pattaya at about 1 PM, checked into our rooms, freshened up, and then headed to Sabai Soapy massage. It was my first soapy experience, must say it was the best, and as the day progressed, it got better. Damage was THB 2500 + THB 200 tips for 2 pops. You just need to tell the girl before the act that you would like 2 pops within the stipulated time. Grabbed some lunch after the soapy, walked a bit around walking street, and headed back to the hotel for a nice power nap...
MarcoStraight
11-26-14, 21:28
Is the worst place to monger. Wannabe superstars asking 2 - 3000 baht for ST. Most ot these girls have already a man somewhere supporting them, so basically they don't give a f * MHO is avoid this place unless you are one of those stupid youngsters looking for. Loveeee.
LittleBigMan
11-27-14, 08:26
I have seen small examples of racism there, but to be honest I was with a friend who was visiting pattaya for like the 30th time so I got to sit in a lot of bars after closing times and chat with the mama sans and girls. It's usually based on previous situations that have happened. For example the one I was speaking to does not allow people of Indian origins in her bar, reasons several counts of beating the girls, getting drunk and throwing up in the bar and many others. These can happen from anyone but given that it has by chance only happened by this certain group just made her ban them.
Still unfair but like the fellow below did you can just move on to the next bar.When it comes to Indians as we speak in general the profiled that is being applied are those that you see in groups on Beach Road and Walking Street. Like the Chinese from the Mainland they are arriving now many for the first time in small to large tour groups due to their growing economy. For many it seems to be their first time and are like kids in a candy store for the first time. They seem to have brought some of their worse aspect of behavior from their country basically lack of manners and respect for women?
That being said not a expert! This generalization and profile Thais have of Indians have been passed on to all Indians even those that have been educated and brought up or live in the West.
Uncle Volodya
11-27-14, 10:38
Is the worst place to monger. Wannabe superstars asking 2 - 3000 baht for ST. Most ot these girls have already a man somewhere supporting them, so basically they don't give a f * MHO is avoid this place unless you are one of those stupid youngsters looking for. Loveeee.Marco, I respectfully disagree. I'm sure there are a lot of girls there that meet that description. But I've had a great time there. I had an amazing threesome with some girls from there in May and hooked up with two great girls form there during my August trip. One I must have fucked 6-7 times and she stayed with me until 5 PM the next day (and never even mentioned money. Though I paid her 1500). The other was among the top 3 hottest girls I have ever bedded and gave great GFE including CIM. Check my past reports for details.
Does that mean the place is a sure thing? Of course not! I've also had nights there where I haven't been able to find anyone I liked or clicked with. But its easy to just move on and there are so many other options close by if you strike out.
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle-V.
When it comes to Indians as we speak in general the profiled that is being applied are those that you see in groups on Beach Road and Walking Street. Like the Chinese from the Mainland they are arriving now many for the first time in small to large tour groups due to their growing economy. For many it seems to be their first time and are like kids in a candy store for the first time. They seem to have brought some of their worse aspect of behavior from their country basically lack of manners and respect for women?.On my first trip I used to be constantly surprised that the girl would ask me are you alone?! I used to be perplexed. But now I know! The groups arriving from India are ruining it for all of us. Hopefully, there are plenty well educated, well mannered of us around to hopefully change this impression with time! At least one would hope.
ActionOriented
11-27-14, 17:00
On my first trip I used to be constantly surprised that the girl would ask me are you alone?! I used to be perplexed. But now I know! The groups arriving from India are ruining it for all of us. Hopefully, there are plenty well educated, well mannered of us around to hopefully change this impression with time! At least one would hope.That's very unlikely to happen, because for every "decent" Indian monger that turns up in LOS, there are 2 more of the "crap" variety that lands up due to relatively cheap airfare and package tours. Relating one instance, I had just had a session at soi 6 and hailed a baht bus to go back to my hotel and found 5 fellow country men occupying the bus, all of them as it turns out were from the same city as I was and they were being extremely loud and boisterous (and they were drunk as well). They made it a point to make the few minutes weird by imitating the thai sing-song voices and generally making fun of the locals (and they couldn't care less). Needless to say, I got off some distance from soi 13 where I was heading and walked the rest of the way. That's when I realised we are a long way from being granted unrestricted access like the 'falang' into all establishments in Pattaya. Even though groups of Indians have almost no access (except at Tony) to any of the shops on WS, they just go to Pattaya in hordes to drink themselves silly, hit on beach road girls and creating a scene wherever possible. I am looking for the silver lining in all of this, but it's hard to find one, therefore the stereotype must go on for the greater good of the locals (not that I like it one bit).
P.s. It just makes the "decent" monger have to up his game, visit alone, overpay (buying unnecessary drinks after the required 1/2) at times because people expect you to act cheap, and generally hope for the best.
IAmRamesh86
11-28-14, 05:53
Being an Indian myself I'm not surprised why we get discriminated in Thailand! I have seen how we Indians behave and I have learned my lessons now I travel alone to Thailand!! So far never faced any issue entering clubs planing a trip this Jan!
That's very unlikely to happen, because for every "decent" Indian monger that turns up in LOS, there are 2 more of the "crap" variety that lands up due to relatively cheap airfare and package tours. Relating one instance, I had just had a session at soi 6 and hailed a baht bus to go back to my hotel and found 5 fellow country men occupying the bus, all of them as it turns out were from the same city as I was and they were being extremely loud and boisterous (and they were drunk as well). They made it a point to make the few minutes weird by imitating the thai sing-song voices and generally making fun of the locals (and they couldn't care less). Needless to say, I got off some distance from soi 13 where I was heading and walked the rest of the way. That's when I realised we are a long way from being granted unrestricted access like the 'falang' into all establishments in Pattaya. Even though groups of Indians have almost no access (except at Tony) to any of the shops on WS, they just go to Pattaya in hordes to drink themselves silly, hit on beach road girls and creating a scene wherever possible. I am looking for the silver lining in all of this, but it's hard to find one, therefore the stereotype must go on for the greater good of the locals (not that I like it one bit).
P.s. It just makes the "decent" monger have to up his game, visit alone, overpay (buying unnecessary drinks after the required 1/2) at times because people expect you to act cheap, and generally hope for the best.
OfficialKnight
11-28-14, 07:30
That's very unlikely to happen, because for every "decent" Indian monger that turns up in LOS, there are 2 more of the "crap" variety that lands up due to relatively cheap airfare and package tours. Relating one instance, I had just had a session at soi 6 and hailed a baht bus to go back to my hotel and found 5 fellow country men occupying the bus, all of them as it turns out were from the same city as I was and they were being extremely loud and boisterous (and they were drunk as well). They made it a point to make the few minutes weird by imitating the thai sing-song voices and generally making fun of the locals (and they couldn't care less). Needless to say, I got off some distance from soi 13 where I was heading and walked the rest of the way. That's when I realised we are a long way from being granted unrestricted access like the 'falang' into all establishments in Pattaya. Even though groups of Indians have almost no access (except at Tony) to any of the shops on WS, they just go to Pattaya in hordes to drink themselves silly, hit on beach road girls and creating a scene wherever possible. I am looking for the silver lining in all of this, but it's hard to find one, therefore the stereotype must go on for the greater good of the locals (not that I like it one bit).
P.s. It just makes the "decent" monger have to up his game, visit alone, overpay (buying unnecessary drinks after the required 1/2) at times because people expect you to act cheap, and generally hope for the best.Sorry I'm completely a newbie but when you say "groups of Indians have almost no access" could you elaborate on that please? I'm an Indian American wanted to plan my first trip to Thailand so I'm just wondering.
Thanks in advance.
Feelz Good
11-28-14, 14:14
FYI. Just two weeks ago a buddy and I were sitting at one of the 10-12 bars that back up to the water, I think one of bars facing walking street says Frog something across from Sugar Babies. Anyway, we were enjoying our beers and having fun watching all the girls scream at that the guys walking in trying to get them to come to their bar. They held up signs like, "Free Blow Job", "Fuck me tonight pay me tomorrow", etc. As the guy or group of guys walked in these ladies would scream their lungs out to try to get the attentions of the new prospective customers walking in. Well, we watched this for well over an hour laughing with girls and watching the reaction of the prospective new customers. Then, a group of 5-6 Indians walked in and you could hear a pin drop, every girl in all the bars, I guess about 80-100 ladies, ignored the Indians like they were not even there. I asked one of the ladies at our bar what is going on and she said, "Men No Good".
That's very unlikely to happen, because for every "decent" Indian monger that turns up in LOS, there are 2 more of the "crap" variety that lands up due to relatively cheap airfare and package tours. Relating one instance, I had just had a session at soi 6 and hailed a baht bus to go back to my hotel and found 5 fellow country men occupying the bus, all of them as it turns out were from the same city as I was and they were being extremely loud and boisterous (and they were drunk as well). They made it a point to make the few minutes weird by imitating the thai sing-song voices and generally making fun of the locals (and they couldn't care less). Needless to say, I got off some distance from soi 13 where I was heading and walked the rest of the way. That's when I realised we are a long way from being granted unrestricted access like the 'falang' into all establishments in Pattaya. Even though groups of Indians have almost no access (except at Tony) to any of the shops on WS, they just go to Pattaya in hordes to drink themselves silly, hit on Beach Road girls and creating a scene wherever possible. I am looking for the silver lining in all of this, but it's hard to find one, therefore the stereotype must go on for the greater good of the locals (not that I like it one bit).
P.s. It just makes the "decent" monger have to up his game, visit alone, overpay (buying unnecessary drinks after the required 1-2) at times because people expect you to act cheap, and generally hope for the best.
ActionOriented
11-28-14, 16:43
Being an Indian myself I'm not surprised why we get discriminated in Thailand! I have seen how we Indians behave and I have learned my lessons now I travel alone to Thailand!! So far never faced any issue entering clubs planing a trip this Jan!Yea man, totally get it, I was thinking of short trip end of Jan as well since a girl I met randomly (she gave me a lift) and works in a salon is trying to sweeten the deal. But then again can't decide and might just be stuck with just one girl for the 3 days that I am there which would be horrific.
Sorry I'm completely a newbie but when you say "groups of Indians have almost no access" could you elaborate on that please? I'm an Indian American wanted to plan my first trip to Thailand so I'm just wondering.
Thanks in advance.You will understand the moment you get onto walking street / beach road. So if you are an Indian (from America or wherever) and travelling with Indians in a group let's say anything more than one will only hurt your case (fly solo), you aren't going to be allowed into most Go-Gos and a few bars. However, if you travel alone or with 'falang' friends, it should be no problem and you won't even notice the discrimination.
I asked one of the ladies at our bar what is going on and she said, "Men No Good".Yep, happens all the time and some of the local girls have picked up the typical Indian greeting and a few lines of our local cinema and make it a point to sing it out. Not sure if its them just being funny or making fun of us. Anyways, doesn't matter much, it is a fun place nevertheless, lots of options even when denied.
Being an Indian myself I'm not surprised why we get discriminated in Thailand! I have seen how we Indians behave and I have learned my lessons now I travel alone to Thailand!! So far never faced any issue entering clubs planing a trip this Jan!Buddy where are welcome?
Most of the places hate us, Europe, USA, Asia.
For the few bretheren, we all face hell and havoc.
JesseJames
11-29-14, 01:24
Buddy where are welcome?
Most of the places hate us, Europe, USA, Asia.
For the few bretheren, we all face hell and havoc.Indians always seem to stroll around in groups of 4. Why don't you guys try splitting up and try going around alone?
Member #4410
11-29-14, 02:25
That's very unlikely to happen, because for every "decent" Indian monger that turns up in LOS, there are 2 more of the "crap" variety that lands up due to relatively cheap airfare and package tours. Relating one instance, I had just had a session at soi 6 and hailed a baht bus to go back to my hotel and found 5 fellow country men occupying the bus, all of them as it turns out were from the same city as I was and they were being extremely loud and boisterous (and they were drunk as well). They made it a point to make the few minutes weird by imitating the thai sing-song voices and generally making fun of the locals (and they couldn't care less). Needless to say, I got off some distance from soi 13 where I was heading and walked the rest of the way. That's when I realised we are a long way from being granted unrestricted access like the 'falang' into all establishments in Pattaya. Even though groups of Indians have almost no access (except at Tony) to any of the shops on WS, they just go to Pattaya in hordes to drink themselves silly, hit on beach road girls and creating a scene wherever possible. I am looking for the silver lining in all of this, but it's hard to find one, therefore the stereotype must go on for the greater good of the locals (not that I like it one bit).
P.s. It just makes the "decent" monger have to up his game, visit alone, overpay (buying unnecessary drinks after the required 1/2) at times because people expect you to act cheap, and generally hope for the best.This is not only the case in Thailand. I have been coming to Indonesia since 1991 and every time I have seen groups of Indians (including the very recognisable Sikhs) trawling the Jakarta bars and discos. They were not behaving very nice towards other people.
A few simple examples from my own experience:
- Check-in time at Atlet Century; guests line up to check in at a number of staff. In walks an Indian family, barges past the lines and wants to check in. The staff managed to remain polite and sent them back to the start of the line;.
- Check-in at Atlet Century; an Indian family checks in and wants to pay a deposit with some extremely decrepit dollar bills. The staff does not accept these bills (hotel policy) whereupon the Indian matron asks "Do YOU have a problem with these bills?" No, the lady did not, but hotel policy did.
I started to understand why people dislike Indians.
Regards,
Ko.
LittleBigMan
11-29-14, 02:46
Before someone beats me to it and I'm sure there are a few that have the urge to say it?
Can we start a " Indians in Thailand " thread?
Just joking fellas!
Enjoy!
Yea man, totally get it, I was thinking of short trip end of Jan as well since a girl I met randomly (she gave me a lift) and works in a salon is trying to sweeten the deal. But then again can't decide and might just be stuck with just one girl for the 3 days that I am there which would be horrific.
You will understand the moment you get onto walking street / beach road. So if you are an Indian (from America or wherever) and travelling with Indians in a group let's say anything more than one will only hurt your case (fly solo), you aren't going to be allowed into most Go-Gos and a few bars. However, if you travel alone or with 'falang' friends, it should be no problem and you won't even notice the discrimination.
Yep, happens all the time and some of the local girls have picked up the typical Indian greeting and a few lines of our local cinema and make it a point to sing it out. Not sure if its them just being funny or making fun of us. Anyways, doesn't matter much, it is a fun place nevertheless, lots of options even when denied.Guys,
I have returned to 16 " happy" trips with the LOS, in spite of being shown the palm, and the occassional cold stare at the door. I have realized that the thai people are very friendly and not racist. It is" management policy" that has been framed over many undesirable incidents involving our countrymen. Any flight in has at least one boisterous group who will surely leave a bad taste in some mamasans mouth soon, adding another red flag to the above policy!
Yes, the "decent" monger is conspicuous by travelling solo. And sought after too, but only if he is considerate and generous.
Over the many trips the phone nos in my mobile secret folder has grown, reference by ref, and the go-go crawl is only a formality.
So, as a holiday venue for the "decent" monger, pattaya is heaven, if you are a VIP where it matters. Ignore the bars with the policy, move on, enjoy the music, food and build up your contacts- I am ready to give you a head start, PM me.
NM.
ActionOriented
11-29-14, 05:08
This is not only the case in Thailand. I have been coming to Indonesia since 1991 ..
Regards,
Ko.I am surprised to learn the situation is the same in Indonesia (Jakarta), because whilst I was in Bali, I noticed that the locals quite like Indians and I attributed that to them being Hindu (just like a majority of Indians) and having similar religious practices. May be I just saw it from one perspective. I do understand what you mean, a group of Indians tend to become a rowdy bunch soon and they will make it a point to be loud and disrespectful towards non-Indians (and this happens in many countries).
So, as a holiday venue for the "decent" monger, pattaya is heaven, if you are a VIP where it matters. Ignore the bars with the policy, move on, enjoy the music, food and build up your contacts- I am ready to give you a head start, PM me.
NM.I think this topic gets done to death every time someone reports that they were denied entry at a particular place, I report on that quite often but only to warn ISG brethren. But being denied is no secret (I too attribute it to management and not to the girls) and like you said you just move on and build your contact database by hunting in places that are fine with us.
MarcoStraight
11-29-14, 08:05
Sorry I'm completely a newbie but when you say "groups of Indians have almost no access" could you elaborate on that please? I'm an Indian American wanted to plan my first trip to Thailand so I'm just wondering.
Thanks in advance.Don't worry my friend, basically thai people hate everybody not only indians. Together with japanese are the most racist in the world. There are body massages in Bangkok (Pertchburi road) where "only Asian are allowed" . Many regular places in Pattaya like Crocodile Farm or Pattaya Park etc. Etc. Got two prices, one for thai and one for "farangs". "Thai rak Thai" ("thai loves thai") was the name of the political party leading the nation for years. No chance to have any normal relationship with locals that is not a matter of money.
About Indians, if you go to Bangkok there are places like CM2 Discoteque or Spasso fully loaded with Russians chiks and Hi-so local prostitutes, they seem to prefer Indians, Arabs and Russians. Maybe they got some skills about new economy, they know where the big money is.
MarcoStraight
11-29-14, 08:48
Marco, I respectfully disagree. I'm sure there are a lot of girls there that meet that description. But I've had a great time there. I had an amazing threesome with some girls from there in May and hooked up with two great girls form there during my August trip. One I must have fucked 6-7 times and she stayed with me until 5 PM the next day (and never even mentioned money. Though I paid her 1500). The other was among the top 3 hottest girls I have ever bedded and gave great GFE including CIM. Check my past reports for details.
Does that mean the place is a sure thing? Of course not! I've also had nights there where I haven't been able to find anyone I liked or clicked with. But its easy to just move on and there are so many other options close by if you strike out.
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle-V.Yes I believe you had great time. In May. Try to go there during the high season, (December to beg. Of April) , situation might be different. You said you fucked a girl 6 - 7 times in one night and she didn't asked you money for. So, unless your name is Superman, I believe you must be a good looking young fellow. This can happen, and it's exactly what I was talking about. Insomnia could be a perfect place for a young guy especially if he looks good. You can find girls having a big sponsor already so they can choose customers and refuse many others. The typical Insomnia's customer consists of:
1) Wannabe young Thai boxer (mostly French / Algerians).
2) Wannabe muscled tattooed gangsters (north Europe -Australia).
3) Wannabe cool DJ's look like (UK / Europe).
All these folks got in common one thing: They think ages and good look will protect them from the formula "no money no honey".
You can find a girl deciding to fuck a guy just for pleasure but this is very rare and can happen just one time. Most of the time (100 %) "don't asking money " is just tactics. They are investing in the guy. Once he'll be in love, non chance for him to survive. I saw so many.
Yes I believe you had great time. In May. Try to go there during the high season, (December to beg. Of April) , situation might be different. You said you fucked a girl 6 - 7 times in one night and she didn't asked you money for. So, unless your name is Superman, I believe you must be a good looking young fellow. This can happen, and it's exactly what I was talking about. Insomnia could be a perfect place for a young guy expecially if he looks good. You can find girls having a big sponsor already so they can choose customers and refuse many others. The typical Insomnia's customer consists of:
1) Wannabe young thai boxer (mostly french / algerians).
2) Wannabe muscled tattoed gangsters (north europe -Australia).
3) Wannabe cool DJ's look like (UK / Europe).
All these folks got in common one thing: They think ages and good look will protect them from the formula "no money no honey".
You can find a girl deciding to fuck a guy just for pleasure but this is very rare and can happen just one time. Most of the time (100 %) "don't asking money " is just tacticts. They are investing in the guy. Once he'll be in love, non chance for him to survive. I saw so many.I am always amazed at guys who think these young Thai girls are in love with them and have been waiting for their old ass all their lives.
If you really want to test your true love, go home one day and tell her you don't have anymore allowance money.
Best just to enjoy the ride and not take anything to serious.
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