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Sushilover808
03-22-15, 05:31
Worn out & ready to go home.
Slept till past noon & lounged in the hotel till after sunset then went out to see the Pattaya Music Festival. I walked the mile from Walking Street to Soi 6 to check out all the music, vendors and girls on the road. The main stage was even more busy than last night but lots of fun. On the way back, I walked thru Soi 6 but it seemed quieter than usual. Stopped at AMEXSPG's hangout, Toilet Bar, for a water & few minutes rest. AMEX's girl was dancing there. I was getting messages to meet friends at ibar so I headed out.
Almost back to Walking Street, I found this 3 hole provider for 1 k ST on Beach Road. Wanted LT but she was tired. Great service so I tipped a couple hundred for CIM. A couple K for drinks & partying with the girls at ibar & I was done. Home for the night.
Last night tonight. Meetup anyone? Call or text me. Texting is better as sometimes I don't hear the phone. 090-201-7927.
....She is tall, outright towering in her heels. This might, especially in Thailand, beg a question, but I ultimately examined everything VERY closely and I'm certain she is a she and always has been...
I had Rain sometimes 2-3 Years ago before she went to Qatar. I f... cked her many times. And her Service is really nice GFE plus A+ and everything nice I come 3 times in 90 Min.
- but I'm still not 100% sure if she always was a lady?? - If you have money and start early (12-14 years) they can make Ladies that are nearly impossible to find out, if they made Hormone therapy and operation. Of Course before she wrote on her Profile that she played Volley Ball. And there are also Girls in Europe with big feet and little bit man looking face. - but in Pattaya I'm very careful! - if you have fun and the pussy feels like a pussy. What's the problem?.
- if you have fun and the pussy feels like a pussy. What's the problem?.I agree! Ignorance can be bliss!
Uncle Volodya
03-22-15, 07:43
I agree! Ignorance can be bliss!Great report as always, my friend. The mishaps with the dolphins ah me in stitches! Hilarious. Thanks for the chuckles.
And the info on the bars is very useful. I hope your intel is still relevant by the time I am back in August.
I had Rain sometimes 2-3 Years ago before she went to Qatar. I f... cked her many times. And her Service is really nice GFE plus A+ and everything nice I come 3 times in 90 Min.
- but I'm still not 100% sure if she always was a lady?? - If you have money and start early (12-14 years) they can make Ladies that are nearly impossible to find out, if they made Hormone therapy and operation. Of Course before she wrote on her Profile that she played Volley Ball. And there are also Girls in Europe with big feet and little bit man looking face. - but in Pattaya I'm very careful! - if you have fun and the pussy feels like a pussy. What's the problem?.If the pussy feels like a pussy then it's most likely a real pussy. I have fucked two post-op transgenders and their 'pussies' didn't feel like a woman's pussy. It's nothing more than an inverted dick after all. It's not getting wet and they don't have pussy muscles that 'grab' your dick. It's a bit like sticking your dick in a garden hose (I suppose, I've never actually done that LOL!).
It also looks different but that's hard to explain. You can Google images of "transgender pussy" or something similar.
If the pussy feels like a pussy then it's most likely a real pussy. I have fucked two post-op transgenders and their 'pussies' didn't feel like a woman's pussy. It's nothing more than an inverted dick after all. It's not getting wet and they don't have pussy muscles that 'grab' your dick. It's a bit like sticking your dick in a garden hose (I suppose, I've never actually done that LOL!).I don't know the specifics of the operations, like if there are more than one way of doing it. It certainly is a whole different situation than a boob job, but I can guarantee that I didn't recognize the best boob job I've ever seen. They can be that good with enough money. If the pussy jobs have reached the same level, I would have a hard time saying that I can tell from the feel, because what if I've done several and just didn't know it?
I do believe that the muscles should be a dead giveaway, but think of some starfish you've presumably had. I've had them with no real response (okay, I'll grant that maybe I'm a really lousy lay). Oh, great! Now you have me thinking about those starfish. Were they? ? ?
Hi all,
A little off topic I know. This is for you long term residence of the place I guess.
Anyone know of a good tailor in Pattaya where I can get some made to measure shirts done?
Thanks in advance,
Red
....I do believe that the muscles should be a dead giveaway, but think of some starfish you've presumably had. I've had them with no real Response...
You are right, that's the point. Sometimes, when I think it's a post operated Girl, there is no action in the pussy. But as you said, it's the same with a starfish.
And Rain is really great in Sex!
Awesome Man
03-22-15, 18:02
Hi all,
A little off topic I know. This is for you long term residence of the place I guess.
Anyone know of a good tailor in Pattaya where I can get some made to measure shirts done?
Thanks in advance,
RedMe and my friends always go to Pauls Tailor on Soi 13/4, just 20 meters from Beach Road on the right side if you have BR behind you. We purchased clothes for more than 30.000 baht there in February, and I will go back there in July for some more shirts. Very satisfied.
Yup that was me. Uncle V not Mr E. Haha. But I guess its easy to get confused.
I go back and visit Chris to get some stuff done every time I am in Pattaya. Last time I had them do some alterations on 2 Burberry suits I have. Excellent job and now the fit is amazing. Raja, Chris' head tailor did a fantastic job and only charged me 2 K for coat and pants.
How much did Chris charge for the suit you had made? I may get one done there next time. I have gotten plenty of shirts and pants but no suit yet.
Last time I also had a Linen suit done at HiFi tailor, a place Mr E recommended. Ama did not have the color fabric I wanted. He did the suit and 2 linen shirts for 6 K. Best quality linen. Not the cheap stuff. And great workmanship! I have received many complements on the suit and shirts.I had a miserable experience at Michelle tailors on Beach Road on my last trip, and I was so mad that I wrote my first negative review on TripAdvisor.
I bought at least 3 custom shirts from the tailor in the lobby of my hotel, Areca Lodge, on each of my last six visits to Pattaya, and I've been very happy with the price, quality, fit, and service. They have always charged me 2,000 THB for 3 fine quality cotton shirts, which I think is a fair price. When I went to pick out some fabrics for some more shirts on this trip I realized that I have at least one shirt made of each of their fabrics, and I didn't want to have duplicates made since all of their shirts have lasted so well.
So I wanted to see if I could find some different shirt fabrics at another tailor, but since there are SO many tailors in town I decided to check out reviews before I went shopping. Michelle tailor on Beach Road had all 5 star reviews, so I decided to go check them out, even though I find it suspicious when all reviews of a place are perfect. I happened to walk by their store on my early morning walk, and they were open. I did find some fabrics that might work for me, although their stock of fabrics seemed a bit dated, and my salesman, after discussing what I wanted, quoted me 1,000 THB for 1 shirt, 1,800 for 2, and 2,500 for 3 shirts. I mentioned that their price was 25 percent higher than I was used to paying, and he started giving me reasons to justify their higher price. He told me that their fabrics, threads, buttons, and tailors were all of the finest quality, and if I ordered 3 shirts he would make them for 2,400 THB. I said that I would think about it for a day or two. I wanted to check out another shop or two to see if I could find some newer, more up to date fabrics that I liked better. He really wanted me to place an order at that moment, but I really wanted to think about it.
I really didn't find any newer fabrics at other shops; it seems that every tailor must use the same supplier, so I went back to Michelle to order the 3 shirts that I had selected the day before for 2,400 THB. They wrote up the order and asked for a 50 percent deposit of 1,800 THB. I said that 50 percent of 2,400 is 1,200; not 1,800! He said that the total for the 3 shirts came to 3,600 THB. I reminded him of our previous conversation, but he replied that the estimate was for an inferior grade of tailoring, buttons, fabric, and thread resulting in a shirt that would fall apart after 2 or 3 washings!
But, miraculously, for 50 percent more than he quoted me one day earlier, my shirts would be top quality and last nearly forever.
Needless to say, I turned around to walk out, and instead of honoring their price quote, they started yelling at me that I don't know anything about custom tailoring.
I've been wearing custom tailored clothes for almost 50 years. I've had suits, tuxedos, shirts and slacks made by some of the finest tailors in the US, Mexico City, London, and Hong Kong, so I know a bit about tailoring.
My advice is to stay away from these guys.
I have fucked two post-op transgenders and their 'pussies' didn't feel like a woman's pussy. It's nothing more than an inverted dick after all. Wasn't one enough?
Uncle Volodya
03-22-15, 18:30
. I did find some fabrics that might work for me, although their stock of fabrics seemed a bit dated, and my salesman, after discussing what I wanted, quoted me 1,000 THB for 1 shirt, 1,800 for 2, and 2,500 for 3 shirts. .Sorry about your bad experience.
I had good luck at Ama and HiFi and can recommend them. Though I agree about the limited selection of fabrics for shirts. I think I may be getting my shirts done at the fabric market in Shanghai form now on. The selection there is huge! And the quality is great too. And they are much cheaper at around 10-12 USD per shirt if you order a few done.
If you end up going there I can recommend Joyce Tailor (google for her stall number).
Now lets get back back to discussing Poon!
Uncle-V.
Kamsutra69
03-22-15, 18:31
I have a air ticket booked that takes me to Bangkok for a long weekend beginning of April.
But with the discrimination, fall in quality reports in Pattaya, I wonder whether I should stay put in Bangkok and avoid travelling further to Pattaya.
Senior can help with their take.
I have a air ticket booked that takes me to Bangkok for a long weekend beginning of April.
But with the discrimination, fall in quality reports in Pattaya, I wonder whether I should stay put in Bangkok and avoid travelling further to Pattaya.
Senior can help with their take.Last. Trip was June last year yes in Pattaya I found plenty of discrimination some blatant I. E. Members only rule for Indians or if you got in then poor or no service from staff and Gogo girls. But still. Overall. I had a great time but in Bangkok. I did not find same problem. I will not let my experience of discrimination put me off from returning in may this year I still have more tuning Pattaya I just avoid certain Gogo bars especially in Walking street.
Sushilover808
03-23-15, 03:57
Drained.
Met up with Mr. E and others at The Golf Club for steak night where they grill your choice of steak (or salmon) on a grill while you enjoy a big self-made salad. Located on LK Metro & recommended - http://www.golfclubpattaya.com/site/index.php/the-golf-club/clubhouse-menu.
Then went to Angelwitch for the 10 pm show. It's a great artistic show with nudity and a huge live snake. No cover, drink price about the same 130 baht, about 30 minutes long. Tipped a bunch of dancers 20 baht each. http://pattaya123.com/nightlife/go-go/angelwitch/.
Around 1130 a friend messaged that she was at ibar. I dropped the usual 2070 baht for a 70 CL Jack, 4 mixers, & a bucket of ice. The guy next to me had 2 x 4. 5 litre bottles of Grey Goose that he pays 32,000 baht, that's $1 k usd on each bottle every week! I enjoyed chatting with him. He tells me pays for drinks but never pays the girls.
After hanging out a few hours at ibar, I found this beach road 3 holer for 1 k ST. Turned into 2 k LT.
Last night was at P72 hotel on Walking Street for 750 baht for a huge but noisy room. Ear plugs mandatory. http://www.thepattayacity.com/P72Hotel/.
Flying home in a few hours on Thai Air Royal Silk Business Class which includes a massage in their Royal Orchid airport lounge. http://www.thaiairways.co.th/en/exp_thai/Airport_Services/Royal_Orchid_Spa.page.
Can't wait to get some great sleep in my own bed.
Drained.
Met up with Mr. E and others at The Golf Club for steak night where they grill your choice of steak (or salmon) on a grill while you enjoy a big self-made salad. Located on LK Metro & recommended - http://www.golfclubpattaya.com/site/index.php/the-golf-club/clubhouse-menu.
Then went to Angelwitch for the 10 pm show. It's a great artistic show with nudity and a huge live snake. No cover, drink price about the same 130 baht, about 30 minutes long. Tipped a bunch of dancers 20 baht each. http://pattaya123.com/nightlife/go-go/angelwitch/.
Around 1130 a friend messaged that she was at ibar. I dropped the usual 2070 baht for a 70 CL Jack, 4 mixers, & a bucket of ice. The guy next to me had 2 x 4. 5 litre bottles of Grey Goose that he pays 32,000 baht, that's $1 k usd on each bottle every week! I enjoyed chatting with him. He tells me pays for drinks but never pays the girls.
After hanging out a few hours at ibar, I found this beach road 3 holer for 1 k ST. Turned into 2 k LT.
Last night was at P72 hotel on Walking Street for 750 baht for a huge but noisy room. Ear plugs mandatory. http://www.thepattayacity.com/P72Hotel/.
Flying home in a few hours on Thai Air Royal Silk Business Class which includes a massage in their Royal Orchid airport lounge. http://www.thaiairways.co.th/en/exp_thai/Airport_Services/Royal_Orchid_Spa.page.
Can't wait to get some great sleep in my own bed.Eaten Steak at the golf club many times. Ribeye is great and price is good.
ConquerorVal
03-23-15, 04:25
Can't wait to get some great sleep in my own bed.Excellent reporting! Your effort is much appreciated! Have a well deserved rest back home!!
I don't know the specifics of the operations, like if there are more than one way of doing it. It certainly is a whole different situation than a boob job, but I can guarantee that I didn't recognize the best boob job I've ever seen. They can be that good with enough money. If the pussy jobs have reached the same level, I would have a hard time saying that I can tell from the feel, because what if I've done several and just didn't know it?
I do believe that the muscles should be a dead giveaway, but think of some starfish you've presumably had. I've had them with no real response (okay, I'll grant that maybe I'm a really lousy lay). Oh, great! Now you have me thinking about those starfish. Were they? ? ?
You are right, that's the point. Sometimes, when I think it's a post operated Girl, there is no action in the pussy. But as you said, it's the same with a starfish.
And Rain is really great in Sex!
Wasn't one enough?To start with Rjsss212's question: the first one was about 15 years ago in Holland, my home country. She was a post-op Thai who got very good reviews on the Dutch monger site and I just wanted to try her once. She was indeed good but her pussy felt a bit strange. It didn't have the elasticity of a real pussy and it was too short for my dick. I could literally feel the end.
The second one I picked up from Beach Road last year. She looked female at first sight but in my room I got suspicious and she told me she was a post-op. She was very sweet and had given me a good blow job so I thought 'what the heck' and I fucked her as well. But her pussy looked and felt weird and was also very tight. Too tight to my taste.
Both girls needed lube and I think that might be a giveaway, beside a strange looking and feeling pussy. I don't think that pussy jobs have reached the same level as boob jobs yet.
Even a starfish will get wet (at least a little bit) from DATY and / or boom boom. Although there might be exceptions.
To go just a bit farther off topic, this discussion has got me thinking, which is really never a good thing. Given that I am never emotionally involved with the sexual partner, the partner is really just a replacement for my hand. Okay, I know that that sounds cold, but it isn't meant as demeaning: Yes, she IS taking the place of my hand. So now I'm wondering what the functional difference would be between a very good post-op and the real thing. I'd guess that in at least 80% of my encounters in Thailand I'm fantasizing that I am actually with someone else, in some cases almost ANYONE else, anyway. If I can fantasize away rolls of fat and acres of tats, I'm sure I could fantasize away the occasional (I know this is going to get corrected to "why") "why" chromosome. I wouldn't go looking for it, but if I had the Mogwai Experience, I'd likely do the same. Doesn't matter: Had sex!
Several weeks ago, I picked up a girl in a Bangkok club. We came back to my apartment and had very good sex though I noticed that she did not seem to get very wet for all the passion she was exhibiting. In fact, my condom had ripped at the top, which I attributed to her relative dryness. However, she indicated concern when she went to take the condom off and said something about seeing her doctor to make sure she was not pregnant.
Nevertheless, in the morning, when I had a better look at her in the hard light of day, I thought her facial feature seemed a bit manly. I also thought, upon further review, that her body did not look all that feminine. Finally, she left without asking for money -- almost a miracle in Bangkok.
But I have been wondering about all this. It's primarily that she did not seem to get very wet even after an extended period of DATY. Of course, I could be paranoid about it all and looking at the proverbial gift horse in the mouth. Her comments about seeing the doctor could have been legitimate. On the other hand, perhaps her comments were a ruse. In the end, I decided does it really matter? I have her number but unlikely I will do a repeat though my hand will have to wait.
To go just a bit farther off topic, this discussion has got me thinking, which is really never a good thing. Given that I am never emotionally involved with the sexual partner, the partner is really just a replacement for my hand. Okay, I know that that sounds cold, but it isn't meant as demeaning: Yes, she IS taking the place of my hand. So now I'm wondering what the functional difference would be between a very good post-op and the real thing. I'd guess that in at least 80% of my encounters in Thailand I'm fantasizing that I am actually with someone else, in some cases almost ANYONE else, anyway. If I can fantasize away rolls of fat and acres of tats, I'm sure I could fantasize away the occasional (I know this is going to get corrected to "why") "why" chromosome. I wouldn't go looking for it, but if I had the Mogwai Experience, I'd likely do the same. Doesn't matter: Had sex!
Crocodilexp
03-23-15, 19:42
Can anybody confirm whether the Music Festival is over and the market-stall blockade of Beach Road is finally lifted? Are the Beach Road girls back at their workplace?
It's primarily that she did not seem to get very wet even after an extended period of DATY. There are girls who simply don't get wet all that much (if at all), no matter what you do and how much they enjoy it. Actually, I find Thai women in general tend to get less wet than, say, the Chinese (accounting for both working and non-working girls).
Feelz Good
03-23-15, 21:02
I am little freaked out that fellow mongers cannot determine the sex of a late night pickup. Have these operations gotten so good that it isn't obvious. I can see mistaken idenity up to the room but the shower should tell all. If it doesn't then a few digits where the sun doesn't shine should raise some flags. Just my opinion and I hope I could be alert enough to see the real person I am with. Maybe some mongers are clouded and drunk when these encounters happen. Still, I hope it doesn't happen to me.
To go just a bit farther off topic, this discussion has got me thinking, which is really never a good thing. Given that I am never emotionally involved with the sexual partner, the partner is really just a replacement for my hand. Okay, I know that that sounds cold, but it isn't meant as demeaning: Yes, she IS taking the place of my hand. So now I'm wondering what the functional difference would be between a very good post-op and the real thing. I'd guess that in at least 80% of my encounters in Thailand I'm fantasizing that I am actually with someone else, in some cases almost ANYONE else, anyway. If I can fantasize away rolls of fat and acres of tats, I'm sure I could fantasize away the occasional (I know this is going to get corrected to "why") "why" chromosome. I wouldn't go looking for it, but if I had the Mogwai Experience, I'd likely do the same. Doesn't matter: Had sex!
Have these operations gotten so good that it isn't obvious.That's exactly what the discussion is about. I think that cosmetically the art has reached a scary level. Given the numerous variables in pussy appearance with a couple sets of labia, a hood, etc. , if the surgery gets even close it could be accepted as just a variation. Inside, as Mogwai pointed out, is a different deal. Unless they can re-purpose some male muscles there there will be no gripping feeling, but that cannot be tested unless the girl allows pre-transaction fingering or is willing to hold a beer bottle up there for a prolonged period of time, hands-free. The latter method is frowned upon as the beer get warm.
I am little freaked out that fellow mongers cannot determine the sex of a late night pickup. Have these operations gotten so good that it isn't obvious. I can see mistaken idenity up to the room but the shower should tell all. If it doesn't then a few digits where the sun doesn't shine should raise some flags. Just my opinion and I hope I could be alert enough to see the real person I am with. Maybe some mongers are clouded and drunk when these encounters happen. Still, I hope it doesn't happen to me.Do the test my friend and let us know your score; and be honest about it. My score was 9 out of 10 correctly.
http://www.bangkokdiaries.com/can-you-tell-the-difference-between-a-thai-lady-and-a-thai-ladyboy/
Do the test my friend and let us know your score; and be honest about it. My score was 9 out of 10 correctly.
http://www.bangkokdiaries.com/can-you-tell-the-difference-between-a-thai-lady-and-a-thai-ladyboy/The problem, in general, with pictures is that there is no frame of reference. Often when seen live it's far more obvious than when seen in pictures. They may be much taller than normal, abnormally (for a girl) large hands, funny-sounding voice, etc.
Several weeks ago, I picked up a girl in a Bangkok club. We came back to my apartment and had very good sex though I noticed that she did not seem to get very wet for all the passion she was exhibiting. In fact, my condom had ripped at the top, which I attributed to her relative dryness. However, she indicated concern when she went to take the condom off and said something about seeing her doctor to make sure she was not pregnant.
Nevertheless, in the morning, when I had a better look at her in the hard light of day, I thought her facial feature seemed a bit manly. I also thought, upon further review, that her body did not look all that feminine. Finally, she left without asking for money -- almost a miracle in Bangkok.
But I have been wondering about all this. It's primarily that she did not seem to get very wet even after an extended period of DATY. Of course, I could be paranoid about it all and looking at the proverbial gift horse in the mouth. Her comments about seeing the doctor could have been legitimate. On the other hand, perhaps her comments were a ruse. In the end, I decided does it really matter? I have her number but unlikely I will do a repeat though my hand will have to wait.Tomasb,
There is a rule with figuring out if a lady is really a lady or a man in thailand. If you have to question or ask yourself if the girl is a man or woman. 99% of the time she is a man. At least when you sobered up in the morning you realized this ladyboy does not look like a woman or is even built like a woman. I have been sober in Thailand I last year for example the was a ladyboy working at one of the beer bars grabbing me. I did not go with the guy dressed as a lady and I did not see him naked. But I would have bet money he was a she. He looked so much a a woman no one would know. The only reason I found out was because he told me. Saying like what you don't like lady boys? Then hearing the voice I realized she was a he.
There is a saying in Thailand that the most beautiful woman in Thailand are men. I do not agree with that. But I do agreed that some of those lady boys look 100% like woman.
LittleBigMan
03-24-15, 06:16
Can I get some more information on those nice suits and shirts people make here in Pattaya. Since moving here I haven't wore a suit nor do I own one any longer since the only suit I wear is my baby suit.
PrinceRaj2126
03-24-15, 06:21
My score was 7 out of 10. Have to build skills to identify right ladies from the big groups of WG.
Do the test my friend and let us know your score; and be honest about it. My score was 9 out of 10 correctly.
http://www.bangkokdiaries.com/can-you-tell-the-difference-between-a-thai-lady-and-a-thai-ladyboy/
LifeIsABeach
03-24-15, 06:56
Can I get some more information on those nice suits and shirts people make here in Pattaya. Since moving here I haven't wore a suit nor do I own one any longer since the only suit I wear is my baby suit.When I was in Bangkok ten years ago, I recall the tuk tuk drivers outside hotel would take you to every jewelry and clothing store when you wanted to some where else. That's how I had a suit (Asian style) made and also some shirts tailored to a designer shirt I had. I have worn the suit once and it still fits. Wearing it for the second time later this year to a wedding. I love the quality of the cloth and tailoring.
Uncle Volodya
03-24-15, 07:03
Several weeks ago, I picked up a girl in a Bangkok club. We came back to my apartment and had very good sex though I noticed that she did not seem to get very wet for all the passion she was exhibiting. In fact, my condom had ripped at the top, which I attributed to her relative dryness. However, she indicated concern when she went to take the condom off and said something about seeing her doctor to make sure she was not pregnant.
Nevertheless, in the morning, when I had a better look at her in the hard light of day, I thought her facial feature seemed a bit manly. I also thought, upon further review, that her body did not look all that feminine. Finally, she left without asking for money -- almost a miracle in Bangkok.
But I have been wondering about all this. It's primarily that she did not seem to get very wet even after an extended period of DATY. Of course, I could be paranoid about it all and looking at the proverbial gift horse in the mouth. Her comments about seeing the doctor could have been legitimate. On the other hand, perhaps her comments were a ruse. In the end, I decided does it really matter? I have her number but unlikely I will do a repeat though my hand will have to wait.I've only had one pussy that I was suspicious about. Picked her up on WS hen I was a little faded and only began to have doubts when we got home. Some signs tell tale signs: voice a little deeper, and a little plasticky. Maybe even having some face surgery. But she was pretty short too and walked like a girl. Overall she was pretty hot. The pussy felt pretty normal, though she did use lube.
I did not repeat with her because she wasn't the best lay and because there are so many pussies to choose from in this great Mecca of poontang. That she may have been a post op doesn't bother me at all. But I am curious. I guess I'll never know, unless I run into her again.
Uncle Volodya
03-24-15, 07:04
When I was in Bangkok ten years ago, I recall the tuk tuk drivers outside hotel would take you to every jewelry and clothing store when you wanted to some where else. That's how I had a suit (Asian style) made and also some shirts tailored to a designer shirt I had. I have worn the suit once and it still fits. Wearing it for the second time later this year to a wedding. I love the quality of the cloth and tailoring.Uhmmm. I think LBM was being facetious.
Mr Enternational
03-24-15, 07:23
The problem, in general, with pictures is that there is no frame of reference. Often when seen live it's far more obvious than when seen in pictures. They may be much taller than normal, abnormally (for a girl) large hands, funny-sounding voice, etc.Exactly. And even for me the pictures are not that hard to figure out. Guys have big ass heads and square shoulders. Live and in person it is really not hard to figure. LBs will try to whisper because if they speak loud it gives away their deep ass voice.
Last night I was talking with a friend who works at P72. She said the LBs in front of there have more money than the Pattaya P4P women. Many of them have cars. One rents a room at P72 on a daily basis at 1200/day and drops more than 30000 baht/month just for the room. The owner asked why not just get an apartment but the lb said he prefers a hotel. This particular one was dressed very nice in like a pants suit and not skimpy like the others who overcompensate.
My friend was saying she has watched the same one go out with 200 baht and at the end of the night have 8 or 10000 baht. As for chicks out there with them, there are a couple. Why? It's a real estate thing. Because all the lbs there go for more, then a lady standing among them can get more as well. So the ladies there are trying to pass themselves off as being lb. WTF?
Also sometimes the girls from Sensations agogo get into fights with them. The door girls lure the customers over to try to get them into the bar and sometimes the lb tries to steal the customer. I said yeah but the lb is a man. No problem. The Sensations girls gang up on them.
The police used to come 2 or 3 times/night to collect money from the lbs to let them do their thing. Since the military has taken over they have changed out the police so that is no longer done. And you see they have set up tables in front of Lucifer and at Soi 16 where the lbs used to make the most problems.
Finally, our bros from India may not be as cheap as everyone makes them out to be. She said that they pay the lbs the most. As soon as she told us that two walked up negotiating with the one she said has the room at the hotel. Interesting to say the least.
ActionOriented
03-24-15, 07:37
Finally, our bros from India may not be as cheap as everyone makes them out to be. She said that they pay the lbs the most. As soon as she told us that two walked up negotiating with the one she said has the room at the hotel.LOL, haven't I been saying so.
If the Go-Gos don't want 'them, many punters would rather splurge the dough on whoever is available on the streets. Still don't get the point of sharing rooms, I have never done so especially when out on a mongering trip.
Uncle Volodya
03-24-15, 07:43
My friend was saying she has watched one go out with 200 baht and at the end of the night have 8 or 10000 baht. As for chicks with out there with them, there are a couple. Why? It's a real estate thing. Because all the lbs there go for more then a lady standing among them can get more as well. So the ladies there are trying to pass themselves off as being lb. WTF?
Yup, there is definitely a huge market for this sort of thing. Otherwise it wouldn't' exist. In reality us meat and potatoes guys that just want to get some real pussy may be in the minority. LOL.
Can anybody confirm whether the Music Festival is over and the market-stall blockade of Beach Road is finally lifted? Are the Beach Road girls back at their workplace? Thank God (or Buddha) it's all over now. Since yesterday everything is back to normal.
Feelz Good
03-24-15, 12:21
Crazy! I got 7 out 10 right. Scary, maybe average at best. But like others have said the pictures are a disadvantage. In person, height, voice, etc. could identify a couple more for me. But, there is that one out of ten that I will have to check ID to be sure. Maybe there is no sure way for some except for the lack of pussy muscles.
Do the test my friend and let us know your score; and be honest about it. My score was 9 out of 10 correctly.
http://www.bangkokdiaries.com/can-you-tell-the-difference-between-a-thai-lady-and-a-thai-ladyboy/
ActionOriented
03-24-15, 12:46
Crazy! I got 7 out 10 right. Scary, maybe average at best. But like others have said the pictures are a disadvantage. In person, height, voice, etc. could identify a couple more for me. But, there is that one out of ten that I will have to check ID to be sure. Maybe there is no sure way for some except for the lack of pussy muscles.Damn, I scored 5/10, and I thought I was good at spotting them.
Is it possible that the test is rigged? I thought all of them were LBs!
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Mr Enternational
03-24-15, 13:40
In person, height, voice, etc. could identify a couple more for me. But, there is that one out of ten that I will have to check ID to be sure.Thanks for reminding me. I left that part out of my report. All of them have fake IDs that say they are female. The hotels will not turn them in to the police because if that happens then the police will force them to roll over on the person who makes all of the fake IDs. Why the hoteliers want to protect the fake ID person I do not know.
Hey fellow experts,
A bunch of 5 handsome guys to celebrate bachelors party in the most crazy and insane way. Can you guide me to the best club to pick up girls, how's the action these days firstly at Pattaya, Any specific places to go out to meet and pick girls like Uzbekistan, Thais.
Please guide us to for a epic few night sin Bangkok and Pattaya.
Cheers
... Since yesterday everything is back to normal....
This time the working Girls where on the beach. If they not believed that the Market would be same as before -and it wasn't -there was a lot of space for walking on the beach, because the market was both side of the road.
Damn, I scored 5/10, and I thought I was good at spotting them.Another identification tip: focus on the hair. If it looks too perfect, or unnaturally flowing, or fake; it is likely a wig which is a dead giveaway.
SL.
CoolDude14
03-24-15, 18:28
I don't know how I managed but that's true.
Feelz Good
03-24-15, 20:29
With fake ID's, what's this world coming to? I guess if you play the game enough and you are unlucky, (or lucky for some who want it), it could happen to the most discriminating thrill seeker. I still think a dry pussy with no muscles, IS TO LATE FOR ME!
Thanks for reminding me. I left that part out of my report. All of them have fake IDs that say they are female. The hotels will not turn them in to the police because if that happens then the police will force them to roll over on the person who makes all of the fake IDs. Why the hoteliers want to protect the fake ID person I do not know.
Damn, I scored 5/10, and I thought I was good at spotting them.
Is it possible that the test is rigged? I thought all of them were LBs!I got 8 out of 10, not bad but photo's are harder than the approach in real life. My motto on my last visit was "if in doubt, walk away"...there's hundreds more to choose from. I grabbed one on beach road and as I was walking with the 'lady' back to my hotel I just had a doubt, stopped and said 'sorry, changed my mind'.
With fake ID's, what's this world coming to? I guess if you play the game enough and you are unlucky, (or lucky for some who want it), it could happen to the most discriminating thrill seeker. I still think a dry pussy with no muscles, IS TO LATE FOR ME!I think the majority of them still has a dick and no pussy. But I don't know if that's really a reassurance for you, LOL.
Another identification tip: focus on the hair. If it looks too perfect, or unnaturally flowing, or fake; it is likely a wig which is a dead giveaway.
SL.Another dead giveaway is that LB's go with a hand through their (long) hair about every 10 seconds. Much more than real ladies do.
The night I met her, she was with other women friends from their salon -- all clearly girls. It never occurred to me that she might be a LB at the club and, in fact, she could be very well be a she. Her hair fell in front of her face a lot when we were dancing but don't think that's a sign of potential gender or LB status and it was real hair, not a wig though her hair was not thick and luxurious but rather thin.
I suppose since she did not ask for money and her somewhat masculine facial features, plus the condom incident made me wonder. But it's a done deal now. 5555.
Anyway, I think that LB photo test is a little bogus since you can tell better by hearing her voice and seeing her movements, physical features such as her hands, back, legs, Adam Apple etc.
It goes to show that rapid medical and surgery techniques will increasingly blur the distinctions.
Another dead giveaway is that LB's go with a hand through their (long) hair about every 10 seconds. Much more than real ladies do.
Want to get some clarification on Songkran celebrations in Pattaya. Do the celebrations last the whole week? Instead of ending on the 15th goes till the 18th.
Do the test my friend and let us know your score; and be honest about it. My score was 9 out of 10 correctly.
http://www.bangkokdiaries.com/can-you-tell-the-difference-between-a-thai-lady-and-a-thai-ladyboy/
My score was 9 out of 10 too.
My only mistake was with one real woman that I thought was a ladyboy. I must say that I also immediately recognized a very famous ladyboy who won a renown beauty pageant for transvestites and I correctly guessed that another was one too, mostly because of his attire.
But the best giveaway for me is the voice. I have never been fooled in real-life situations. But I am a music lover and an (amateur) musician, so, that helps a lot.
I also always act and select very cautiously my sex partners. Like for this test, I might discard a real woman because I wrongly believe that she is a ladyboy, but it's preferable IMHO when I have some doubts.
Uncle Volodya
03-25-15, 06:34
Another identification tip: focus on the hair. If it looks too perfect, or unnaturally flowing, or fake; it is likely a wig which is a dead giveaway.
SL.Yikes, the "girl" I picked up back in August and that I described below had hair extensions. I also thought this could be a sign.
But man "she" must have had an insane amount of work done to get to the level of femininity she achieved. This would be tens of thousands of dollars of surgery in the West. All to score a 2 K baht trick a night? Crazy!
Another identification tip: focus on the hair. If it looks too perfect, or unnaturally flowing, or fake; it is likely a wig which is a dead giveaway.
SL.I really don't understand why you not just ask them, if in doubt or drunk. They will tell or face the consequences later. They know. But if you just drag some tranny to your room how would they know you were looking for a girl?
Sushilover808
03-25-15, 12:27
I don't understand all this talk on this subject. I just say, "I look for lady that can fuk ass" and they tell me directly if they are a ladyboy or not. Easy!
Mr Enternational
03-25-15, 13:14
I don't understand all this talk on this subject. I just say, "I look for lady that can fuk ass" and they tell me directly if they are a ladyboy or not. Easy!Exactly. But for some reason it seems a lot of guys are too timid to just come out and ask the person they are considering fucking if they are male or female.
Mr Enternational
03-25-15, 13:43
Chick hit me up online when I was about to leave the house. I decided that I would make a quick pit stop to see her before picking up my friend because she lived close by. I get there and meet her and she tells me she works at a bar on Second Road and has to work from 6 pm to 1 am. I called my friend and told him that I would be there in 5 minutes.
As I headed for the door she said I thought you wanted to fuck. I said I always want to fuck, but how much is it going to cost me? She said 1000 baht. I said no, not long time, just short time. She said well you can fuck me once now then again when I finish work. I said no. One short time now is good for me. She said well how much you give me? I said 500. She said okay then went to the bathroom to freshen up. I called my buddy and told him forget what I just said. I just fell into some pussy so it will take me a little longer to get there. That definitely will not be my last session with her!
I heard Soi 6 bars not doing any business or fun in upstairs rooms anymore and you have Togo to nearby short time hotels. Anyone know if this is still the case? I will be there in may and any updates from fellow visitors recently would be appreciated.
Thanks guys.
I heard Soi 6 bars not doing any business or fun in upstairs rooms anymore and you have Togo to nearby short time hotels. Anyone know if this is still the case? I will be there in may and any updates from fellow visitors recently would be appreciated.
Thanks guys.Don't worry, it's business as usual.
I don't understand all this talk on this subject. I just say, "I look for lady that can fuk ass" and they tell me directly if they are a ladyboy or not. Easy!
Exactly. But for some reason it seems a lot of guys are too timid to just come out and ask the person they are considering fucking if they are male or female.I think a lot of us would like to avoid that question because it can be quite embarassing if she's a real lady. So that's one reason for all this talk on this subject.
I think one big variable is just what we mean by ladyboy: It can be used for both transvestites and transsexuals. The former seem to have no issues with admitting their gender. As Mr. E wrote, there is a niche industry for pretty boys with dicks still attached. I've several times discovered I was with one in a bar when the LB could tell I was looking for something more conventional and told me. One time he / she even facilitated my BF'ing a BG. I've found the latter, the transsexuals, not as forthcoming. I've certainly never had one just blurt it out without prompting, and in the one case that I think I did BF one, the one that tried to rip me off, I doubt there would be a lot of honesty if asked. My impression is that the first group often isn't trying to fool anyone; the second group is trying to fool everyone.
The Office: Ugly girls. The blessing was that the place was a little bigger but did not cram an extra row of seating so the seats were farther away from the stage, sparing one some of the horror. Almost immediately I got approached by two dancers who were sub-par even for that establishment. I took a few gulps of my water, stuck a bill in the check-bin and fled.
That's a shame. I scored big at The Office back in July 2013 and ever since I've been looking forward to heading back. Looks like I'll have to find a new favorite when I return this summer. Thanks for your report.
Looks like I'll have to find a new favorite when I return this summer.As always, YMMV. Nice thing about the bars being packed right next door to each other: You can easily step in and take a look.
Feelz Good
03-26-15, 22:16
Come to think of it it happened to me once at Nana and once in Pattaya a couple years ago. My radar went up and I came out and boldly asked in both instances are you a Ladyboy or are you a lady. Poor and stupid framework of a question I realize now, but both times they said I am a lady. And after talking with them a little my gut told me to move on and I did. Not positive but I think both were not real females. The effort of deception is so crazy that you have to wonder about robbery or worse. Moral of the story is I guess you can never be sure. When you don't feel comfortable, move on.
I agree. In January, I spoke to a pretty bar girl in Nana Plaza concerning the gogo staff of a club on the second floor; I think it was called Straps? I saw a lot of big girls there and asked if it was a Ladyboy bar. She said, "No! No Ladyboy there!" I asked again later, after having another look at the "girls" smoking outside the bar, "Are you sure". She said "No Ladyboy". But I wasn't asking the right question, so I asked her if they once had dicks, and she said yes. Apparently to some people, a post-op ladyboy is no longer a ladyboy.
I usually go for females that look more like girls than ladies. A ladyboy can look like a lady with a little (or a lot) of assistance. But it is very hard for a ladyboy to look girl-ish.
That's a shame. I scored big at The Office back in July 2013 and ever since I've been looking forward to heading back. Looks like I'll have to find a new favorite when I return this summer. Thanks for your report.Then again, if you like the layout and vibe of a place, I still might drop into there.
Reason being. With the ever changing staff of these places, can never be sure what you will find in that mysterious box of chocolates lol !!
ActionOriented
03-27-15, 03:26
Then again, if you like the layout and vibe of a place, I still might drop into there.
Reason being. With the ever changing staff of these places, can never be sure what you will find in that mysterious box of chocolates lol !!Haha, reminds of a story a punter told me sometime back that he found a girl (and had BF'ed her), cute as a button, who was the only girl working in a LB bar on soi 6, she didn't last too long there, we went to check up on her and found that the bar was back to being all LB, bad tidings.
I think a lot of us would like to avoid that question because it can be quite embarassing if she's a real lady. So that's one reason for all this talk on this subject.Actually, not as embarrassing as you think. I asked that question many times in Pattaya / Bangkok / Phuket, and the ladies had no problem saying yes. They often laugh about it as well. The lady boys, OTOH, frown when asked that question, and would not answer it directly.
Uncle Volodya
03-27-15, 15:03
Actually, not as embarrassing as you think. I asked that question many times in Pattaya / Bangkok / Phuket, and the ladies had no problem saying yes. They often laugh about it as well. The lady boys, OTOH, frown when asked that question, and would not answer it directly.I don't really think its that tough to tell. But before, when I was unsure, I used to use the line: "You are so pretty you must be a lady boy. " to check. It always got a laugh as many of them do really believe that LBs are prettier than real women.
I agree. In January, I spoke to a pretty bar girl in Nana Plaza concerning the gogo staff of a club on the second floor; I think it was called Straps? I saw a lot of big girls there and asked if it was a Ladyboy bar. She said, "No! No Ladyboy there!" I asked again later, after having another look at the "girls" smoking outside the bar, "Are you sure". She said "No Ladyboy". But I wasn't asking the right question, so I asked her if they once had dicks, and she said yes. Apparently to some people, a post-op ladyboy is no longer a ladyboy.
I usually go for females that look more like girls than ladies. A ladyboy can look like a lady with a little (or a lot) of assistance. But it is very hard for a ladyboy to look girl-ish.I realize this is the pattaya thread but for therefore my understanding is that straps in nana plaza is 100% post-op.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. You can readily, and politely, ask a 'girl' to see her ID. It clearly gives the title in English. There is a lobby in Thailand to allow 'post op' transsexuals to change their ID card to reflect their.
New status as ' Miss' but currently, I believe, that the ID card, provided it's genuine and that's another story, gives the birth gender. I suggest you ask to see the ID, often your hotel will insist anyway, and better get any.
Confusion / embarrassment out of the way before you get back to your accommodation. You can always bullshit about wanting to check the age which is also clearly displayed using both a Thai and western calendar.
Hope this helps.
Pedro
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Please correct me if I'm wrong. You can readily, and politely, ask a 'girl' to see her ID.One of the major industries in Thailand is fakes of all sorts. I've seen some girls' ID's. They are about a generation behind the higher tech ones with holograms, etc.
As Mr. E mentioned a few days ago, probably every working LB has a fake.
ActionOriented
03-28-15, 04:38
Confusion / embarrassment out of the way before you get back to your accommodation. You can always bullshit about wanting to check the age which is also clearly displayed using both a Thai and western calendar.
Sometimes the reception staff is also very helpful. At Inn House, the night reception guy is very alert, I have seen him point out to punters that the girl he is taking to the room is actually a LB and if the guy says he is aware, the reception goes on to collect the ID. It can be looked upon as a little invasive, but the guy is doing his job and helping out the tourists by identifying the LBs. The reception guy is thai so he doesn't care about offending the LB, he calls it the way he sees it.
Sometimes the reception staff is also very helpful. At Inn House, the night reception guy is very alert, I have seen him point out to punters that the girl he is taking to the room is actually a LB and if the guy says he is aware, the reception goes on to collect the ID. It can be looked upon as a little invasive, but the guy is doing his job and helping out the tourists by identifying the LBs. The reception guy is thai so he doesn't care about offending the LB, he calls it the way he sees it.AO just gave the best advice ever. I'm new to the international form but not to Thailand or US site. Every single time I visited Thailand I've always stayed at a hotel where the staff will protect you as a last line of defense. From the door guy to the front desk I just simply asked them to please please give me a signal if the woman I think I have is actually a LB. Last year that last line of defense came in handy, yup, the front desk looked at the ID card and said Mr Hurt you are not allowed to have guest unless you pay extra, I knew since I've checked in many guest before her that something wasn't right. Later me and the front desk crew laughed and I gave them all a nice tip. So my advice is the same as AOs advice. Use your resources to your advantage.
Pipe Layer99
03-30-15, 07:19
Chick hit me up online when I was about to leave the house. I decided that I would make a quick pit stop to see her before picking up my friend because she lived close by. I get there and meet her and she tells me she works at a bar on Second Road and has to work from 6 pm to 1 am. I called my friend and told him that I would be there in 5 minutes.
As I headed for the door she said I thought you wanted to fuck. I said I always want to fuck, but how much is it going to cost me? She said 1000 baht. I said no, not long time, just short time. She said well you can fuck me once now then again when I finish work. I said no. One short time now is good for me. She said well how much you give me? I said 500. She said okay then went to the bathroom to freshen up. I called my buddy and told him forget what I just said. I just fell into some pussy so it will take me a little longer to get there. That definitely will not be my last session with her!You Lucky man.
WildBillLewis
04-02-15, 21:55
I arrived in Bangkok at around midnight after a 30 hour trip from Toronto with stops in Chicago and Narita. When the flight was booked in early January, one Canadian dollar fetched 28.34 Baht. By the time I arrived, that same Canadian dollar fetched only 25.88 Baht, an 11% drop in purchasing power. I planned to take a bus to Pattaya in the early morning, I. E. , one of the ones that runs from the airport and drops you at your hotel. They are cheap. Just over 200 Baht. But they don't start running until around 8 o'clock, so I decided to sleep at the Bangkok airport. Ear plugs and a small pillow did the trick. I hadn't booked a hotel in advance, but I had done my homework and knew that I wanted to stay the first few nights on Soi 6 so I had the driver drop me at Soi 6 and Second Road and I made my way toward the beach, checking guest houses along the way until I found one I liked. I chose Lagune at a cost of 700 Baht. By 1 o'clock in the afternoon I was pretty much settled and ready to go out and explore. The offerings on Soi 6 at that time of day didn't appeal to me so I headed for Beach Road. Without much trouble, I found and fucked a nice looking Beach Road girl named Nada twice (#1. 1 and 1. 2) for 1,000 Baht. Later in the day and that evening, I scouted out Soi 1, 2 and 3 (where not much was happening) and the nearby mall (where I couldn't find the place where the freelancers were supposed to hang out), so I eventually found myself at some beer bars along Second Road not far from Soi 6 and was hit on by a small beer bar girl. After chatting a while, we agreed on "short time" for 800 Baht. Then I paid the bar fine, took her back to my room, had her naked but in the end I didn't fuck her. She was too pushy. She would not be the only one like that either. After about 20 minutes, I sent her away with 300 Baht and called it a night.
WildBillLewis
04-02-15, 22:13
Day 2 was a wasted day. I had signed up to Thai Friendly and had been in touch with a number of women, one of whom I arranged to meet. She was older than what I was really looking for, but she seemed nice. Certainly her Thai Friendly picture showed much promise. Well, gauzy pictures can deceive. In real life, she was a real disappointment: about 15 pounds overweight, with bad skin. What was more, her English was so limited that she brought along her 18 year old daughter to help her communicate. Her daughter's English was not much better than her mother's so the encounter was filled with cordial and well-meaning smiles but it went on much, much, much too long, and of course it was entirely chaste. They came from Sriracha, about 20 minutes by car from Pattaya. And I was very glad when their car drove away. Over the next few weeks, I would become quite adept (or maybe just exceptionally lucky) at salvaging nights that went astray like this one had, but I had not yet acquired that aptitude and so for me it was an early and unsatisfying end to my second day in Pattaya.
WildBillLewis
04-02-15, 22:39
On the third day I decided to moved to Soi Honey from Soi 6. I followed the same routine as before in order to find a place. I wandered along the Soi, stopping at guest houses until I found one I liked. This particular one had been acquired three days before by a 21 year old Thai girl named Ning who has real chutzpah. I hope she makes a go of it. The rooms are nice and, at 800 Baht, reasonably priced given the quality. My room had a balcony that overlooked LK Metro. After I got settled, I walked up Soi Honey toward Soi Buakhao where the girls hold out signs that, on one side, offer foot massages, Thai massages and oil massages while on the other side of the sign, they offer hand jobs, blow jobs and full sex. Who could refuse? I fucked a good looking, big-tits massage girl named Noi (#2) for 1,200 Baht It was interesting, fucking a girl who was probably faking her orgasms while, on either side of me, separated only by a curtain, other girls were also being fucked by other men. Anyway, it was all over in an hour. Later in the day I went wandering along Soi Buakhao and, right near Central Road, came across a massage parlour where I was oiled by a delightful looking girl named Yaya from Cambodia. We spoke about getting together after she got over her cold. Later that evening, I found myself at a place called Lucky Bar not far from LK Metro and "bar fined" Or, a super cute girl. I then went out with her to listen to a live band right at the entrance to Walking Street where she acted very seductively, guiding my hands to her tits, grinding herself against me and giving me wet kisses (and, as it turned out, doing exactly what she needed to do as a bar girl to get me hooked on her). She was one great looking girl, let me tell you. Then we went to my place and played in all manner of ways but, to my chagrin, my pecker failed to rise to the occasion at the crucial moment so I didn't fuck her. But she did spend the night. At no time to this point had we discussed price.
Uncle Volodya
04-03-15, 08:20
On the third day I decided to moved to Soi Honey from Soi 6. I followed the same routine as before in order to find a place. I wandered along the Soi, stopping at guest houses until I found one I liked. This particular one had been acquired three days before by a 21 year old Thai girl named Ning who has real chutzpah. I hope she makes a go of it. The rooms are nice and, at 800 Baht, reasonably priced given the quality. My room had a balcony that overlooked LK Metro. After I got settled, I walked up Soi Honey toward Soi Buakhao where the girls hold out signs that, on one side, offer foot massages, Thai massages and oil massages while on the other side of the sign, they offer hand jobs, blow jobs and full sex. Who could refuse? I fucked a good looking, big-tits massage girl named Noi (#2) for 1,200 Baht It was interesting, fucking a girl who was probably faking her orgasms while, on either side of me, separated only by a curtain, other girls were also being fucked by other men. Anyway, it was all over in an hour. Later in the day I went wandering along Soi Buakhao and, right near Central Road, came across a massage parlour where I was oiled by a delightful looking girl named Yaya from Cambodia. We spoke about getting together after she got over her cold. Later that evening, I found myself at a place called Lucky Bar not far from LK Metro and "bar fined" Or, a super cute girl. I then went out with her to listen to a live band right at the entrance to Walking Street where she acted very seductively, guiding my hands to her tits, grinding herself against me and giving me wet kisses (and, as it turned out, doing exactly what she needed to do as a bar girl to get me hooked on her). She was one great looking girl, let me tell you. Then we went to my place and played in all manner of ways but, to my chagrin, my pecker failed to rise to the occasion at the crucial moment so I didn't fuck her. But she did spend the night. At no time to this point had we discussed price.Glad you are having fun. And sorry about your pecker. Don't worry it happens to the best of us. I usually keep some pills in the medicine cabinet to prevent such occurrences.
I'm looking forward to reading more of your posts. I am curious as to what time of year you were in Pattaya. I'll be doing a long stay this August.
Stay horny my friend.
Uncle-V.
Red Dogger
04-03-15, 09:10
Struggled with thaifriendly. Sent out lots of messages, few replies, mostly from old women (meaning twenty years younger than myself) who obviously could neither read nor write English and could frighten a dog off a meat wagon. Younger and handsomer men may have more luck, but I am old and fat, and for me, worked liked any other dating site, plus the language barrier. But on Tinder way hot chicks ask to meet me.
My impression is that Thai girls on thaifriendly want romance and commitment from someone attractive, who also gives them money, after a lengthy courtship, leading to a relationship, which results in continuing sponsorship, while the tinder girls are more "If I fuck him, will get paid, and maybe after that he will like me and sponsor me. But anyway, will get paid".
Every message sent out on tinder so far got an immediate and eager reply, so I just stopped sending messages, having my hands full.
WildBillLewis
04-03-15, 11:27
I woke up with Or, the bar girl from the Lucky Bar near LK Metro, but the magic from the night before seemed to be gone and we didn't fuck. We did try but my pecker failed me again! Unusual. It certainly wasn't because Or lacked for looks in the light of day. On the contrary, she had a smoking hot body and a very cute face. Even though price had not been discussed, I (stupidly) gave her 2,000 Baht just for having spent the night. I then moved to Chaba Hut on Soi Buakhao, a place with a nice pool. The pool at Chaba Hut is set back from the road so the noise from Soi Buakhao isn't a problem and the pool is surrounded by palm trees for shade. It is a place that is particularly popular with Germans and I was to spend many hours by the pool watching overweight members of the Master Race in their seventies and eighties cavorting with Thai women half their age and a third their weight. The cost of a room was 800 Baht a night. At a nearby food market, I picked up Pepsi while eating lunch and spent the afternoon pool-side listening to her tell her story of a long-term relationship with a falang that had gone wrong. It was a tale I was to hear many times. The day before she had interviewed at three Go Go bars and later that afternoon she was to choose among them. She was a good looking, well spoken and well traveled women in her mid-thirties. I put no moves on her. In hindsight I should have. That afternoon I dropped by the massage shop I'd visited the day before on Soi Buakhao near Central Road to see if Yaya from Cambodia was feeling better but she was still sick. I then cruised beer bars with no success, spilling money at every stop. I was learning, but the lessons were costing me both time and money. For relative newbies to Pattaya like me, that is the way of it. The day was not lost, however, because I ended up finding and fucking good-looking Baan (#3) from the beach for 500 Baht: she was good in bed too, and my pecker worked properly. Here was another lesson that Pattaya would teach me on this trip: looking good is one thing and being good in bed is another thing entirely. It is nice to hit on someone who is good on both counts. Four days and four fucks spread among three ladies. Not bad, but the truth was that I was smitten by Or the bar girl from the Lucky Bar and would spend the next few days trying to woo her. In the process, Pattaya would teach me more lessons.
WildBillLewis
04-03-15, 11:52
On the morning of my fifth day, I was out for a walk, headed toward Second Road not far from LK Metro and I spied a hot-looking long-legged girl in a tight white dress, clicking along the street in six inch heels. At that hour, from the way she was dressed, I figured she was on her way home after having spent the previous night with a client. I hustled up to her and, to start the conversation, offered her a bite of watermelon. One thing led to another and she agreed to come back to my place for 800 Baht for an hour of late morning fun. I got her back to my place and got her naked whose bustiness disappeared with the removal of her padded bra. That wasn't the real problem. The real problem was that she was a star fish and did nothing to get me excited so after about twenty minutes of frustration I simply gave her 300 Baht to leave. She wanted more of course, but she had done nothing to earn it, so she left unfucked and with less money in her pocket than she could have had. I was not happy either: I was out 300 Baht. Later that afternoon I returned to Beach Road where I found and fucked Wan (#4) for 800 Baht and she was great, but at one point she decided that she wanted to ride on top, so we flipped over and the condom came off in the process. I'm sure I was never inside her uncovered, but she was concerned so we went for HIV tests costing 800 Baht. That evening, I went back to bar fine and then date the super good-looking Lucky Bar girl named Or. I took her to a movie and then out to dinner: all very proper. Sadly, my low expectations for romance were fully met. I also came to realize just how limited she was when it came to speaking and understanding English. I would later learn more of her story. I dropped her back at the bar around 11 o'clock unfucked and did not do much of anything afterward. I had yet to learn the lesson that Pattaya doesn't really start to rock until 2 o'clock. I was, at this point in the trip, fixated on wooing Or. I was five days in, with five fucks spread among four different girls.
WildBillLewis
04-03-15, 12:18
I was willing to give beach girl Wan from the day before a "long time" try but she didn't "show" as she had promised the day before. No great loss: although she was a wild thing in bed, she didn't really have the "look" that I was looking for. So I went down to Beach Road, befriended Noi (a different Noi from the one I fucked earlier in the trip) around noon and fucked her (#5) for 700 Baht. I loved that she came loud and hard. Her hips really sought out pleasure. Twice, once to my fingers and once to my tongue, but we almost didn't fuck because my pecker was not "strong". It did, however come to life and we did the deed. Unfortunately, notwithstanding yesterday's lame date, I continued to be fixated on Or, my Lucky Bar girl. That afternoon, as I sat by the pool at Chaba Hut, she sent me a text message saying she would be interested in spending a few days with me. I had in mind visions of romance with a very good-looking girl and was hoping I could count on her to get it. She was counting on 2,000 Baht a day plus expenses and she had her hooks into me deeply enough that she knew she could get it from me without the trouble of having to troll each night for men at the bar. It would prove to be a marriage made in Hell. I returned to her bar that night to buy her a drink (but didn't bar fine her), then went to the beach, and then to Walking Street where I watched a rock band play until about 2 o'clock. I should have gone to the discos. Later in the trip I would be smarter. But instead I walked home. At this point I was down to about 150 Baht in my pocket, but nonetheless I was accosted by Alana, a girl whose bar had just closed. She was looking for action. I was frank with her: we can play but I can't pay (or at least I can't pay very much). We stood there in the street, with her all over me, and somehow on her I must have exerted some sort of charm (if only I could do the same to Or, after whom I have lusted) so back we went to my place for for late night fun that lasted until day break, but there was no fucking because my pecker let me down again: time for Viagra or something! Six days in, with six fucks spread among five women. I am behind the target pace I had set for myself, for two reasons. First, I'm still getting the hang of this place: as I found out last night, surprising things can happen after 2 o'clock in Pattaya. Second, I was enamored of Or (who I had yet to actually fuck), letting my desire for a few days of romance with her deflect me from my mission. I still had much to learn, and some of the lessons were to be hard ones.
WildBillLewis
04-03-15, 12:43
Or came over for what was supposed to be a three day trial run to see if we could reignite the spark from our very first night together. She brought with her many surprises. She was was sporting a dreadful new (and massive) belly tattoo which was painful to the touch and which flaked. I also looked dreadful: of all the tattoos I was to see in Pattaya, it was the worst by a long shot. It went from her crotch to far above her belly button, and from side to side. I was mono-color black and bereft of any artistic merit. I learned that she'd had it done the day after I met her. That particular night we had slept together and played together but hadn't fucked because my pecker had gone limp at just the wrong time. Anyway, here she was, and she was uninterested in touching me. Perhaps that was because she was still in pain or perhaps it was because she was really uninspired by me. Certainly my attraction toward her had dissipated. This was partly because she'd turned herself from a high "8" or a low "9" into a "7" with that God awful tattoo. It had partly to do with the language barrier (and the lack of any effort on her part to communicate with me, be it through halting English or the use of Google Translate). It had mostly to do with the fact that the romance from the first night that I had been hoping to recapture was long gone. Having fixated on Or, I had very unwisely paid three days of bar fine (300 Baht times 3) plus an unspoken commitment to give her 2,000 Baht a day for her time plus expenses. I spent a dreadful evening with her and slept In a bed with her unfucked yet again, but this time there wasn't even much play to make things fun. Pattaya was teaching me another lesson, and this one was bitter and would prove to be costly in both time and money.
Pipe Layer99
04-03-15, 14:31
..... was hit on by a small beer bar girl. After chatting a while, we agreed on "short time" for 800 Baht. Then I paid the bar fine, took her back to my room, had her naked but in the end I didn't fuck her. She was too pushy. She would not be the only one like that either. After about 20 minutes, I sent her away with 300 Baht and called it a night.If the girl was pushy, you should have straightened her out right away. Tell her to take care of you and get down to business. After all, that's why you barfined her for ST. And if she does not behave and give you a BJ and sex, there was NO need to give her anything 'for her lack of performance'. You should have just sent her packing.
Heck, you could have also walked her back to her bar to complain. But that's your call. I bet you that if you told her you will take her back to the bar to get your barfine back, she would change her attitude. For 300 baht, its not a big deal for most guys. But for her and her bar, it is income that they don't want to lose. Plus she will look bad having a guy bringing her back for not doing her job.
In either case, no need to give her anything for non-performance.
Finnish Fucker
04-03-15, 18:01
Some thoughts about Pattaya bars after my tip in March.
1. Walking Street. The big agogos like Skyfall, Airport, Iron, Baccara and Sensations were full of action every night and had many customers. Many good looking girls here but very mechanical feeling overall. Most of the girls just danced on the stage with a boring look on the face. I did not see many guys barfining. Sensations must have had over 100 girls. The music was unbearable loud there to enjoy the place. The smaller ones on the left side like Sharks were quiet. It seems these bars are suffering to get enough customers and probably are dying in the long run.
2. Soi LK Metro. I liked the places here a lot. More relaxed but still a lot of girls and equal quality to the WS agogos. Amethyst bar had many topless girls and some with big tits, pretty good quality. Also Bachelor bar was nice with sexy girls wearing knee socks.
3. Papagayo bar was good, not too busy and nice girls inside. I should have spent more time here instead of WS bars. Maybe next time.
4. Soi 6. Bad bad bad, not for me. Shit at the end of the stick as one gentleman I met said.
5. Kinnaree club, quality of girls quite good. Nice place to have an afternoon fuck.
Pattaya was pretty good as always. Many girls all over the place to choose from. Agogo bars are better than in Bangkok, selection wider.
-FF.
Pattaya was pretty good as always. Many girls all over the place to choose from. Agogo bars are better than in Bangkok, selection wider.
-FF.Hey Flying Finnish Fucker buddy, nice to hear from you again. When were you in Bangkok? Which bars did you try and did you post anything? And finally what made the Pattaya bars better? Wider selection means more big tits or? Its many years since I was in Pattaya, so I really don't know, I only know your taste. LOL.
I would have thought Bangkok bars had a wide selection, so I am a little unclear.
Banana Boi
04-03-15, 20:48
FF's Bangkok summary posted March 27
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1699820#post1699820
Finnish Fucker
04-04-15, 07:44
Hey Flying Finnish Fucker buddy, nice to hear from you again. When were you in Bangkok? Which bars did you try and did you post anything? And finally what made the Pattaya bars better? Wider selection means more big tits or? Its many years since I was in Pattaya, so I really don't know, I only know your taste. LOL.
I would have thought Bangkok bars had a wide selection, so I am a little unclear.Hey Syz,
Please read my report which Banana Boi linked. I tried many bars in BKK. The only thing I did not try were the soapy massage places. Please don't tell me that those places have absolutely the hottest hookers in Bangkok, LOL.
What I meant with wider selection of agogos in Pattaya compared to BKK is that there are much more bars in P than in BKK and they are bigger and better. The girls look mostly the same, slim with surfboard body. But when you have more number of bars you have also more girls and better chance to see also some with bigger tits for example. Unfortunately I did not find any really busty ones on this trip. But I had fun nevertheless.
Cheers, FF.
WildBillLewis
04-04-15, 14:19
Or and I fucked in the morning (#6. 4). I paid her 2,000 Baht, which was the second of three payments. Then we went to Jomtien beach where, like most Thai women, she stayed in the shade with most of her body covered to prevent exposure to the sun. She had to be especially careful to avoid exposing the tattoo to the sun or sea water. Given the ugliness of her tattoo, I did not object. She has disfigured herself and will surely never again look anything but ridiculous in a bikini. Her role on this junket to Jomtien was to sit in the shade and, from time to time, spend my money. In the later afternoon we returned and I treated her to a massage while I had a manicure for the first time in my life. My nails were not long, but I wanted to be sure to remove any objection she might have to me finger-fucking her. Since things seemed to be going reasonably well between us, we concocted a plan which would see me pay her bar fine for another two days (300 Baht times 2) based on a plan to go and stay for two days on Koh Larn. As it turned out, this was a big mistake, but my crystal ball let me down. We then slept for a while in the early evening, after which we went to a Thai bar where Or was eventually persuaded by a girl at another table to dance and let me tell you, she danced like a vixen. Thai music seems to unleash the inhibitions of Thai women, making them move in a way that could only have come from some sort of joint effort between God and the Devil, designed to both tempt and torture men. Returning, we played, and had some great 69, but she got mad when I went soft; after revival, we fucked (#6. 5) for about forty minutes in various positions, but she got madder still when, legs exhausted, I couldn't make her come!! Not a good omen. My tally by Day 9: eleven fucks spread among six women. Looking ahead, I've got the up-and-down Or to deal with. I am hoping that a two day vacation to Koh Larn will bring out the best in her.
WildBillLewis
04-04-15, 15:01
I took Or to Koh Larn after paying her 2,000 Baht for final installment of the original three day deal. Situated 7.5 km to the west of Pattaya, Koh Larn island offers soft sandy beaches and reasonably clear water. It is accessed by ferry for 30 Baht. We made our way to the room I had rented, and of course it didn't look anything like the pictures on Agoda. Then we made our way to the northernmost beach of Koh Larn, Ta Waen Beach. It has a long beach with water lapping gently against the shore. If you are looking for big rollers, go somewhere else. There are shops and restaurants along the beach. Throughout the day, things grew increasingly frosty between Or and me. I tried to communicate using Google Translate. She would give a clipped response and make no effort at any point to use Google Translate or any similar application to respond. The language barrier seems to be the main issue: she may not speak much English, but I am pretty sure she speaks more English than she lets on. She just doesn't use it much. The truth is that she relies on her looks as a substitute for any real charm. We left the beach and, after getting a bite to eat, we discovered that there is nothing to do in Koh Larn once the last ferry leaves. There are no bars or discos. It is dead. The only thing you can do is go to the 7-11 and buy beer. If you're going to Koh Larn, go for the day. Do not stay overnight. So we returned to the room and I left her to watch some Thai game shows on TV and laugh a little. In fact, I left her alone most of the night while I sat outside, smoking and reflecting. I then went into the room and we had a long talk, at which point she finally started to open up and tell me about her life. I listened and learned. She told me she's been fined every night since she started her new place 17 days ago (and that tally would include me too many times). Once she fined herself, went to Walking Street and let a 25 year old guy pick her up while playing pool. For her, as a 30 year old, this was a source of pride. I suppose the process of talking, which we must have done for well over an hour, softened her up because we then fucked (#6.6) for about an hour. It lasted a long time, but it was uninspiring. It was also the last time we would fuck and it seemed that we both knew it. I have had quite enough of this problematic women. I will likely pay her 2,000 Baht tomorrow. Which will be the first of what was to have been two such payments. Plus ferry fare of 30 Baht and send her on her way. As I reflect on it, my experience with Or has been a repeat of my experience two years ago when I took a girl named Noi away on holidays to Phuket. Two years ago, things got better for me after I sent Noi away. This time, I am hopeful that things will go better once I send Or away. I will likely lose the second day of the bar fine, but I don't care. I need to move on and I can afford the loss of 300 Baht. That said, I will go and speak to the mamasan at the Lucky Bar about Or's performance. The lesson in both this case and the one from two years before: don't look to a bar girl for anything but the illusion of romance, and in most cases, don't expect that charade to last more than a few days, especially if the language barrier is significant.
On a weird but encouraging note, at the beach earlier in the day, while I was swimming in the water as Or sat in the shade in a chair on the beach, I struck up a conversation with a whale of a girl and then we began to play. She grabbed my cock and offered to stay with me for two days in Koh Larn, all within 10 minutes! She wasn't a pretty girl, or my type in any way, but she probably would have been more fun to be with than Or: all it would have taken was for her to have a pulse. I am sure there are plenty of those back in Pattaya. With the Or experiment now definitely over, I will throw myself back into the game and I intend to do so with confidence.
WildBillLewis
04-04-15, 15:12
As planned, I paid 2,000 Baht plus 30 Baht for the ferry and said good riddance to Or. She was an awesome-looking woman before she disfigured herself with the ghastly tattoo. The real problem, however, was the language barrier and the fact that she was bored to tears being with me. To use a baseball analogy, I understand that even the best hitters can't hit every pitch. That said, I poured way too much into her, getting very little in return. After the first night, frankly, it was all downhill. To be sure, there was a slight rebound on Day 8 when we fucked three times, but really, as I reflect on it, that was an illusion. After sending Or away, I spent the day at the Ta Waen Beach, talking to lots of chicks (Chinese, Japanese, Thai): went OK. It gave me renewed confidence, but no fucks. I spent a quiet night on Koh Larn, drinking and smoking alone, looking at the lights of Pattaya and imagining all the fun I could have been having over there. In retrospect, I should have forfeited the cost of the room and gone back to Pattaya. It was a stupid decision on my part to stay the night. I will be getting the first ferry out the next morning. Never stay overnight on Koh Larn. Tally as of Day 11? Twelve fucks spread among six girls. I need to up the pace.
WildBillLewis
04-04-15, 15:33
I returned from Koh Larn on the first available ferry and got a room at Den Bar on Soi 1 for 500 Baht a night. I spent quite a bit of time chatting with expats Les, Clive and Dave; went on a "tour" with Clive and Dave to LK Metro and spent too much money to virtually no effect looking at coyote girls whose bar fines alone were well beyond what I was willing to pay for a roll in the hay. That said, the time spent with Clive and Dave was well worth it in terms of lessons learned. Afterward, on my own, at about midnight, I went to Beach Road and fucked big-tits but forgettable Yada (#7) for 700 Baht, then returned to Beach Road at around 3 o'clock, picked up and fucked the much more memorable, good looking and lively Cha (#8) for another 700 Baht (although all I had on me was 520 Baht: the rest of it was locked away in the hotel safe and conveniently inaccessible), so after we were done, I emptied my pockets and paid her the 520 Baht and promised that I'd find her and pay her the other 200 Baht another day. I don't think she ever expected to see me make good on the promise, but I eventually did. It was interesting to note the event that made Cha decide to go with me even though I only had 520 Baht in my pocket: it was the arrival of the police. They apparently sweep Beach Road about three times a night and extract 100 Baht from the girls they find. As soon as the girls spot the police, they hustle across the road in great numbers and hide until the police pass. One such sweep occurred while I was talking with Cha and her reluctance to give it up for a certain 520 Baht turned into eagerness. Tally by the end of Day 12? Fourteen fucks in total spread across eight women.
WildBillLewis
04-04-15, 15:57
I spent the first part of the morning chatting with Nit, a nice looking but somewhat older woman who ran the bar at the Den Bar. She told me she had never been "fined" and since I had taken a liking to her, I tried to fine her. The owner Les said no, pointing out the if she left, he'd have to run the bar: made perfect sense as I thought about it, so I just gave her 300 Baht as a kind gesture. In a similar spirit of generosity, and knowing that she got off a 9 o'clock, I asked Nit if she liked movies and found she hadn't been to a cinema in 10 years so I offered to take her to a movie when she finished work. I had in mind a simple date and a nice outing. I certainly didn't plan to fuck her. My plan was to treat her to a nice time, say goodbye to her at around midnight, then go prowl along beach Road where I'd had success twice the night before. That was my plan for the night. As for the afternoon, Clive persuaded me to go to Soi 6. For the first time in my life, I took some Kamagara (a Viagara-like product in jelly form that you ingest) and tried Lek (#9) for 1,300 Baht. The prick performed; she faked three orgasms trying to get me to come, but then she started to get frosty after 30 minutes into a 60 minute session. This is understandable: Soi 6 girls prefer guys who blow their loads quickly. Since they get hammered so often, they prefer in any given session to get hammered as little as possible; hence their preference for guys who come quickly and faked orgasms on their part are all part of the plan to get guys to come. Unfortunately for Lek, with or without Kamagara I can often last a very long time, but once she started to get frosty, I started to lose interest and pulled out after plowing her for quite a while. She wanted to try and get me off with a hand job, but her technique was dreadful and all her pulling and tugging did was make me want to get out of there so I paid her the money and gladly left. When I got back to Den Bar, Nit had decided that she wanted me to take her and two friends dancing instead, plus she wanted me to buy her some shoes. I told her I only had 2,000 left, so she decided to blow me off. As the old saying goes, no good deed goes unpunished. Not long afterward, I got into a weird verbal tiff with one of the other Den bar guests, which brought me to the conclusion that my time at Den Bar was over and that I would move on the next morning. The night then took a very weird turn. I went to Beach Road at around 9 o'clock, met a nice looking girl named Pung who spoke good English. We agreed to 1,500 Baht "long time". With the time pressure relieved by going "long time", I then took her to a movie (as I had originally planned to do with Nit from the Den Bar), ate, returned and had an absolutely great fuck (10.1). I lasted forever but never came. She came many times. Thailand throws many curve balls. Sometimes it seems to throw nothing but curve balls. Tally by Day 13: Fifteen fucks spread among 10 girls including two new ones today (Lek and Pung). The Or fiasco is a fading memory.
WildBillLewis
04-04-15, 17:39
Well, as of today, the trip is half over. After my good luck last night running into Pung, and figuring I might have found a girl that I might like to spend a few days with, I decided to go back to Chaba Hut on Soi Buakhao and take a room for seven days at a reduced rate of 700 Baht a night. Leaving Pung to sleep and gather her strength after last night's exercise, I got up early to arrange this. I then returned to the Den Bar, woke up Pung and had more great sex (#10.2). She went to her flat to gather some things and returned late but then we had more great sex (#10.3). Afterwards, we went to a Thai club but she wouldn't dance. I found out later that night that it was because her period was coming on. I was undecided what to do, whether to keep her around waiting for the period to pass (because there are ways other than intercourse to have sexual fun) or to let her go. It really all depended on her mood. Some girls are brought low by a period. Other girls are hardly affected mood-wise. As I was to learn the next day, Pung was heavily affected. Too bad: I had planned to spend the next few days with Pung for the girlfriend experience but that was not to be: another course correction was going to be needed. My tally at the midway point: eighteen fucks spread among ten different girls. I was starting to learn to roll with the punches and I was also continuing to learn that it is almost never too late in the night to get lucky in Pattaya. The second half of the vacation would prove this to be true in spades!
WildBillLewis
04-04-15, 19:38
I had hoped that Pung's period would still leave her interested in playing in ways other than direct fucking, but it brought her low so she left with a 500 Baht bonus on top of the agreed-upon priced of 1,500 Baht (and it should have been more based on the fact that I had been paying the lovely but lame Or 2,000 Baht a day "long time" I might see Pung again: she was the most articulate, thoughtful, kind-hearted great fuck I have had yet on this trip. Each day I carve out about 4,500 Baht in spending money, so after paying Pung, I was down to about 2,000 Baht for the day. I went to Beach Road mid-afternoon to add to the notch count. Near Walking Street (which is a long way from Chaba Hut on Soi Buakhao) I got Bo (#11) for 500 Baht plus 120 for a grungy "short-time room" on Soi 1. I've never been in anything like it before. It was a dusty, dirty bare bones affair. After screwing Bo, I kicked around a bit, doing nothing really. By about 4 o'clock, I was down to about 1,300 Baht for the day. I had lines on two girls on Thai Friendly, one of whom I wanted to take to a movie, but instead I went with Naja from Thai Friendly for 1,500 "long time" (plus taxi fare of 200). To my chagrin, she arrived late but when she got there we had a mighty fuck (#12), with me bringing her to an orgasm first with my tongue and then twice in our one session with my cock. Afterwards we had a good long talk. During the course of the conversation, I came to the view that Naja might be a good one to book for a couple of days and we sketched out plans to that effect. Then we slept together, which was very nice. I definitely prefer the togetherness that a "long time" arrangement provides after a good fuck. Unfortunately, we only fucked once that night bu I wasn't worried because my intention was to wake up and fuck her a couple of ties the next morning. Trip tally to date: twenty fucks in fifteen days spread over twelve girls including two new ones today (Bo and Naja).
WildBillLewis
04-04-15, 20:04
I had stomach pains most of the night and the air conditioner made a constant snapping sound so I slept poorly. Then Naja left early so we didn't fuck. I spent most of the day waiting for Naja to return. She kept me waiting and waiting, and I kept sending her message after message on Line, then claimed that she had tried to contact me at 7 o'clock and I had not answered (although there was no record on my phone of a missed call) so she said she had gone out with "friends" to Jomtien but could meet me at 10 o'clock. I was in no mood to be strung along again so I told her to stay with her "friends". I suspect this was simply code for another customer. At this point I was not happy. I had wasted almost the whole day waiting for Naja's promised return and then she flaked. I spent the next few hours chatting up a Soi Buakhao bar girl and spent 420 Baht in the process without success. Then I wandered down a side street off Soi Buakhao and got talked into a massage with Pam that drained me of 900 Baht but produced no fuck: not smart on my part.
By midnight, I still had not gotten laid and was down to 1,200 Baht for the day, which I figured would buy me nothing worth having, or so I thought, but then I went to Beach Road, found Cha who I'd fucked on Day 12, paying her 520 Baht instead of the 700 Baht she'd asked for because that was all the cash I had in my pockets at the time. Well, I paid her the 180 Baht that I owed her from Day 12, then took her to Hot Tuna to watch a band, then we went back to my place and I got Cha to fuck me for 700 Baht. I had forgotten what a wonderful body she has: tits, ass, legs, waist. Posture, in addition to an active mind and a determined spirit plus pretty good English. Unfortunately, despite all of those positive attributes, there was no real passion in the fuck tonight. It was nice, however, that she slept over. Trip tally to date: twenty-one fucks spread over twelve different women in sixteen days.
WildBillLewis
04-04-15, 20:17
Naja has agreed to come over at 3 o'clock for a swim, etc. I bought a fifty pack of Kamagara, which should easily see me through the rest of the trip. With Naja, we'll see if we can recapture the magic of out first night: going to try for an afternoon and an evening fuck. As Robbie Burns once wrote "The best laid schemes o' mice an' men / Gang after agley".
Late afternoon and still no Naja, but Pung called asking if she could come over and wasn't too happy when told I had other plans. I may have chosen unwisely.
I went for a Thai massage: the best one yet, and made "eyes" with another masseuse. I spent most of the day waiting for Naja to show but she flaked. By about 8 o'clock I was down to 1,760 Baht left for the evening, but what a night I was to have! First, I tried to pick up a beer bar girl who couldn't speak English and wanted 1,500 plus a bar fine of 400 Baht. I wasted 400 Baht there: very discouraged. Then I went to Beach Road. On the way, I stopped to talk to Nit, the masseuse I'd made "eyes" with earlier in the day, and we made a date to dance at midnight. I continued to Walking Street and found Jeab and her sister. I could have had them both (and should have done so) but I took Jeab back to the room and fucked her (#13) for 700 Baht. She was a great fuck. I gave her the rose that I had bought for Naja.
Then I met Nit at 1 o'clock with two friends, went to a disco and danced. The friends left and we stayed. When we got home, I asked if she wanted to come up to my place for a massage. She agreed and we fucked and fucked (#14.1 and #14.2), so much so that the bed (which was on wheels) moved right across the room from one wall to the other! I happened to check the clock and know that we had been at it for over an hour. An awesome couple of fucks!
Trip tally so far: Twenty-four fucks in seventeen days spread across fourteen women including two new women today (Jeab and Nit).
WildBillLewis
04-04-15, 20:37
When we woke up, Nit and I fucked twice again (#14.3 and #14.4), and again we made the bed move across the floor. My legs cramped from the exertion: we must have been at it for 45 minutes. I asked her if she came and she said that she did, many times both the night before and in the morning. She is ravenous. She loves to kiss. She loves to be on top, and she loves to have her nipples sucked while she's on top. An hour later and my legs are still shaking. On the way out, she asked for money and I gave her 1,000 Baht. I'll know later if that was far too little. I hope not, but I'm planning to go back to her shop for a Thai massage and she'll get a 500 Baht tip: I'm hoping for a repeat tonight. I also plan to go after another Beach Road girl before Nit gets off work at midnight.
Opps: Thailand has blind-sided me again. Nit is having problems with her son and a friend has arrived so we won't be getting together tonight after all. I've decided that I'm done with Naja and Pung. Bowl problems caused me to sleep most of the afternoon. Then I went to Beach Road where a big music festival was underway and spied Cha again. I'd fucked her twice before on Day 12 and Day 16. We agreed on 1,500 Baht for the night with swimming in the morning, to which she agreed, also promising me a massage. I got her home and she gave me a useless massage, after which I found her uninterested in doing anything to please me and trying to weasel out of the swimming promise. I had soon had too much of this nonsense so I chased her away for 300 Baht. Lesson: do Beach Road girls once.
I then wandered down to Walking Street and watched Lam Morrison play guitar at the Hot Tuna Bar. Then I went to Marine disco and danced for two hours with what I thought was a girl. It was great fun. We eventually agreed on 1,000 Baht for the night and left, but before we'd walked too far I asked just to make sure she wasn't a ladyboy and found out that she was. On that note we parted ways. It was now about 3 o'clock and I met tiny 26 year old Ann on Beach Road, brought her home and fucked her (#15) for 600 Baht. She came twice, once with her own fingers and once on my cock and said I was good. I finished the day as the sun came up. Trip tally so far: Twenty-seven fucks in the course of eighteen days spread over fifteen different girls including tiny little Ann today.
WildBillLewis
04-04-15, 23:14
I got up at around 11 o'clock. I planned to get a massage from Nit and tip her 500 Baht but she said she's leaving town to attend to her son. But wait: Nit is coming over at 3 o'clock to give me a massage in my room. She turned up pretty much on time. She fucked me ferociously (#14.5), just like the first time, maybe even too ferociously so for my taste. I like to vary the pace. She seems to like to increase it relentlessly. She said she came many times, and again we moved the bed halfway across the room. I came once, face to face, between her legs, going slow. Later I was supposed to meet her and a friend down at the beach. I should have ducked that one. When I got down to Beach Road, we spoke again and I thought we arranged a meeting place. I got to the meeting place and waited nearly an hour. I sent message after message, and tried calling. Eventually she called and told me she was sitting in another place. Then I had to foot the bill for pizza for her and two friends, then we parted without a kiss. Strange! She's going to her home tomorrow, returning Tuesday and wants to get together then. Maybe, but after that strange "date" I think it'll be more Beach Road girls instead.
Beach Road girls have been very good for me until now. After Nit and I parted I spied a 23 years old, name of Pha or something, who spoke nearly no English, was rail thin (which was appealing to me) who looked lively as she danced to a street band. She wanted 1,000 Baht, to which I agreed. Back we walked to my room, the massage started, and the turnover revealed a beautifully haired pussy, nearly nonexistent tits, and bad breath, all of which would have been OK if she wasn't starfish-like, doing nothing to bring me to attention. I eventually stuffed it in semi-soft. It popped back out. She made a joke of it. I wasn't amused and told her it wasn't going to happen. She seemed shocked and offered a hand-job. I told her to go slow and, with the help of some oil and coaching, my member arose. We then fucked for about 10 minutes. She seemed to enjoy it somewhat, coming alive, panting and drawing me close, but for me it was a mechanical act of fucking someone about one-third my age: nothing more. I was glad when it was over and, frankly, at one point, I was more than prepared to give her the 1,000 Baht just to get her to leave.
Dejected I had 460 Baht left for today with which I panned to get a beer and have a smoke. I decided to stop at a bar with a hot Laotian. One thing led to another and soon we were kissing. It didn't take long to blow through 460 Baht so I ran back to the room for another 1,000 Baht. I blew through that in another 90 minutes, with hotter kissing and dancing to boot. How much did she want for the night? 1,500 Baht. Deal. Back we went to my room at about 4 o'clock where we played for a while, slept for a while, then played, then slept, then played and slept (just as I like it) until she left around 2:30 in the afternoon the next day. By that point we'd fucked furiously twice and done all manner of other things to boot and, of course, we'd made the bed move across the floor. Unfortunately, I never did get her name.
Tally so far? Thirty-one fucks spread among seventeen different girls including the lame Pha and the smoking hot Laotian on Day 19.
WildBillLewis
04-05-15, 13:53
I am feeling edgy because time is slipping away: today will be the 20th day of my 28 day trip.
Using Agoda, I booked a place on Walking Street called the Walking Street Guest House which proved to be excellent, but also very hard to find. Having been up very late the night before, I really didn't start the search for today's girls until around 7 pm. First, I stopped by my Laotian friend's bar. She wasn't there but I got talking to the girl who worked the cash, then tried to bar fine her but she blew me off; spent 500 Baht there. Then I played pool for two hours with what turned out to be a ladyboy so I walked away from "her" having blown another 500 Baht. I then went down to the beach and saw Wan (who I'd fucked (#4. 1) on Day 5). I'd seen her many times and she always called me "Darling". This time she went on and on about how she needed money so, feeling generous, I asked if she wanted to come back to my room for "long time" 1,500 Baht. She comes back. She starts acting weird, suspicious of every sound (and of course there are lots of sounds coming from Soi Buakhao). We get down to business. She comes like thunder to my tongue. We fuck for a while (#4. 2) but then I go soft. I'm not worried: it'll come back. We watch TV. Out of the blue, she gets fussy about the air conditioner: it must be off. OK, I turn it off. Then she's too hot "inside" and must leave. I give her 300 Baht to leave. She leaves. I'm pissed off. Then 40 minutes later she calls, saying that she no longer feels hot "inside" and wants to come back. I guess the prospect of making only 300 Baht and losing the remaining $1,200 Baht didn't appeal. Too late Wan, we're done.
Before it was a guideline, but now it's a rule: never the same Beach Road girl twice. Cha was great the first time and lame the second. Wan was great the first time and lame the second. Pattaya had taught me yet another lesson. More were in store.
I still had lots of money and it was early (for Pattaya) so I went out and played pool with a tiny little thing from a bar right ext door to Chaba Hut. She danced like a vixen and had one of the most exotic faces I've even seen but she was cold toward me. Depressed, I went walking. It was about 2:30. Most of the Buakhao bars were closed, but from one bar a girl named Yoyo called me to one and, with money still in my pocket, I decided to join her. What a great decision: I sat with her and a girl friend and a guy called Max and talked. Around 3:30 I asked Yoyo if she wanted to spend the night. I offered 1,000 Baht. She countered with 1,500. I agreed. She was a fit 30 year old. She worked out and it showed. Fantastic thighs. Taut belly. She was awesome in the sack (#18.1), coming multiple times to my tongue and cock (about which she was very complimentary and appreciative). She got a laugh out of the bed moving across the floor. "Good for you?" I asked. "Sabai sabai" she said with a sigh. Good indeed: it is so nice to enjoy a woman who genuinely enjoys making love. I didn't come, but that didn't matter to me. She'd enjoyed herself, so I enjoyed myself. We went to slept as to sun rose. The next morning I arranged for a late checkout, after a little coyness, we went at it again (#18.2) and this time we came together. We seemed to click on many levels and I asked her if she'd be interested in getting together with me for a day trip to Koh Larn and maybe some afternoon fun. She was the best in bed so far, by far.
Trip tally: Thirty-four fucks in twenty days spread among eighteen different girls over the course of twenty days.
WildBillLewis
04-05-15, 15:25
Once Yoyo had left, I moved to the Walking Street Guest House, right across from Lucifer's. It took a long time to find the place but the room is nice and the price is right at 700 Baht a night. Early evening I went to Beach Road and found Pung: very attractive. She asked for 700 Baht "short time". She looked so good, spoke such good English and seemed so nice that I went "off plan" (of two "short time" fucks a day) and offered her 2,000 Baht "long time", to which she agreed. Walked back, got the action going with me giving her a massage which she liked. Then I discovered that she doesn't like to kiss and she doesn't her pussy licked to the point of orgasm: too sensitive. OK, so I went soft since I really like those things, but then I got hard again and started fucking her (#19) which she seemed to enjoy based on the sounds she was making. With Kamagara, I was long and hard and, since I often don't come anyway, the "in and out" lasted a long time. This frustrated her: she wanted me to come (just like I wanted her to come), partly because her legs were getting tired and partly because she wasn't used to someone my size. When I heard that she was hurting, I withdrew. I'm not into pain, either mine or theirs. One thing led to another and we agreed that she would leave with 800 Baht.
Interesting: Just a few hours before, Yoyo raved about the size of my cock and how it felt inside her and how I was able to last and last. Those were the very things that Pung didn't like. As of 9:40 in the evening, I still had 2,400 Baht for the day. As I had mentioned in an earlier report, I set aside about 4,500 Baht for the day. That way, I am conscious of my self-imposed budget limits. By 12:25 am I was down to 1,800 Baht. I spent the rest buying drinks for Go Go girls I couldn't afford to bar fine or fuck: a silly waste of time and money. I then headed out to Marine disco and danced for about two hours. I then left, ready to declare defeat and got enticed by a girl on Walking Street who offered 1,00 Baht "short time". Wanting a notch and with money to spare, I said yes, When we got to the room, she wanted the money upfront, which is not how it's done in Thailand. Suspicious. I balked. "Leave" I said. Eventually she revealed that she was a ladyboy. Ah ha! That is why she wanted the money up front: the same trick was played on me in the Philippines. "Out" I said. "I spent time with you, I must be paid 1,000 Baht" she said. I gave her 90 Baht. She left. Day done, at 4:19 .
Trip tally: Thirty-five fucks in 21 days spread across nineteen girls including first-timer Pung today.
WildBillLewis
04-05-15, 17:38
Largely a wasted day so far: I went to a movie in the afternoon, avoiding a rain storm which flooded the streets, then went to a bar on Second Road and wasted 500 Baht on two cute sisters who had no interest in me. Nit, my masseuse friend and voracious fuck bunny with whom I made the bed move across the room in Chaba Hut a few days ago, says she wants to meet, but it is now almost nine and I have heard nothing from her. Nung (from Thai Friendly) says she wants to talk tonight by phone but is unwilling to travel to Pattaya: connection with her will likely be more complicated than it's worth. I expect I'll end up either with Nit tonight (expecting tension and baggage based on our last encounter) or at Beach Road. The latter would be less complicated and probably also cheaper.
At this point, the one I might go out of my way to see is Sirina from Thai Friendly, her and Yoyo. Unfortunately Sirina is located in Bangkok and I'm not really willing to take the risk of going all the way to Bangkok on the off chance that we might hit it off. We mesh well using an application called Line, but things might be different face-to-face. I've asked Yoyo if we can be together again but have heard nothing. I hold out little hope. So far, I've had 34 fucks with 19 different women in 21 days, which is not bad, and I've made many mistakes from which I have learned a lot (and will make more), but the truth is that I am not happy. I see lots of guys no better looking than me (and often much worse looking) with better looking girls fawning all over them. Looking just at the numbers, I'm doing OK but I had expected to do better.
Eventually Nit called and I took her to a late movie. She had returned by bus that day from her home town and was battling stomach issued, so she wasn't in a very good frame of mind for a date. That said. It seems that the magic is gone. After the show, she went her way, I mine. We parted with a wave, not a kiss.
My way back to Walking Street took me to Beach Road and Orn, who offered me a massage and "boom boom" for 800 Baht. Agreed. Walked back and got started. Nice massage. My massage got her going too and without prompting she started to gently play with herself. As she got nearer, I lifted her legs in the air and brought my tongue into action, which brought on a long, loud orgasm. We then started to fuck (#20) and, unfortunately, I came after only about seven minutes. Unusual for me, and better than not coming, I suppose, but I was disappointed in my own performance. As for Orn's performance, I have nothing but good things to say.
I still had money left so I went to a disco and started dancing with a lady named Bee who was quickly all over me. I spent too much on drinks, then agreed to "long time" for 1,500 Baht. Went back to the room and fucked Bee (#21) but didn't come. Nor did she. She did, however, like the way I licked her pussy. She left just shy of 7 am, so in the end I paid too much for a single fuck. She claims she's interested in going to Koh Larn, but we'll see. With her, I think once was enough. Last night, there were lots of pretty ladies on Beach Road.
Tally so far: Thirty-seven fucks in twenty-two days spread across twenty-one different girls including two first-timers today: Orn and Bee.
Largely a wasted day so far: I went to a movie in the afternoon, avoiding a rain storm which flooded the streets, then went to a bar on Second Road and wasted 500 Baht on two cute sisters who had no interest in me. Nit, my masseuse friend and voracious fuck bunny with whom I made the bed move across the room in Chaba Hut a few days ago, says she wants to meet, but it is now almost nine and I have heard nothing from her. Nung (from Thai Friendly) says she wants to talk tonight by phone but is unwilling to travel to Pattaya: connection with her will likely be more complicated than it's worth. I expect I'll end up either with Nit tonight (expecting tension and baggage based on our last encounter) or at Beach Road. The latter would be less complicated and probably also cheaper.
At this point, the one I might go out of my way to see is Sirina from Thai Friendly, her and Yoyo. Unfortunately Sirina is located in Bangkok and I'm not really willing to take the risk of going all the way to Bangkok on the off chance that we might hit it off. We mesh well using an application called Line, but things might be different face-to-face. I've asked Yoyo if we can be together again but have heard nothing. I hold out little hope. So far, I've had 34 fucks with 19 different women in 21 days, which is not bad, and I've made many mistakes from which I have learned a lot (and will make more), but the truth is that I am not happy. I see lots of guys no better looking than me (and often much worse looking) with better looking girls fawning all over them. Looking just at the numbers, I'm doing OK but I had expected to do better.
Eventually Nit called and I took her to a late movie. She had returned by bus that day from her home town and was battling stomach issued, so she wasn't in a very good frame of mind for a date. That said. It seems that the magic is gone. After the show, she went her way, I mine. We parted with a wave, not a kiss.
My way back to Walking Street took me to Beach Road and Orn, who offered me a massage and "boom boom" for 800 Baht. Agreed. Walked back and got started. Nice massage. My massage got her going too and without prompting she started to gently play with herself. As she got nearer, I lifted her legs in the air and brought my tongue into action, which brought on a long, loud orgasm. We then started to fuck (#20) and, unfortunately, I came after only about seven minutes. Unusual for me, and better than not coming, I suppose, but I was disappointed in my own performance. As for Orn's performance, I have nothing but good things to say.
I still had money left so I went to a disco and started dancing with a lady named Bee who was quickly all over me. I spent too much on drinks, then agreed to "long time" for 1,500 Baht. Went back to the room and fucked Bee (#21) but didn't come. Nor did she. She did, however, like the way I licked her pussy. She left just shy of 7 am, so in the end I paid too much for a single fuck. She claims she's interested in going to Koh Larn, but we'll see. With her, I think once was enough. Last night, there were lots of pretty ladies on Beach Road.
Tally so far: Thirty-seven fucks in twenty-two days spread across twenty-one different girls including two first-timers today: Orn and Bee.Just a few things.
The guys with the hotter women than you are probably paying more or investing more time to find them.
I can tell you the hotter women won't be on Beach Road.
Maybe you should invest more time looking for quality instead of trying to rack up numbers.
Probably not a good idea to be eating any woman you just met on beach road.
Other than that enjoy.
TwoTimeTed
04-05-15, 19:39
Tally Counts.
Wow, Wild Bill Hickok couldn't do any better! Hey you forgot to mention how many BJs and HJ you racked up.
When I went there were girls everywhere, but the real beauties were taken already by the time I hit the streets.
As far as getting beauties, I found out, you got to do some early hunting and pay more for those gals. But if scoring is what you want, you are the man! I was constantly interrupted in my escapades by holes in my drinks that I had to refill.
WildBillLewis
04-05-15, 21:53
Booked into the Beverly which caters to tourists from India. The Beverly supposedly charges 300 Baht for a visitor. In my case it did not happen. Went to Koh Larn today on a day trip: slim pickings. Who knows what the night will hold. At the start of the evening I still had 4,200 Baht left for the day! Went to see a sex show and burned through about 600 Baht there for no good reason: they are really very dull. A checklist item. I won't repeat.
Went walking on Beach Road: some good talent and a lot that is not. Picked one of the best ones. Her name was Bao or Dao or something like that. She wanted 1,000 Baht and was insistent on one hour only. That was a bit of a turn-off but she did offer to kiss and she said that she sometimes came so I decided to give her a go. Got back to the room and found she had very nice soft big tits, but since I was on the clock, the sensual massage that I gave to her was not to my usual standards, meaning that she didn't get very worked up, meaning that I didn't get hard. She liked the tongue action but didn't come. It took some coaxing but eventually I stiffened and was inside her (#22) for over ten minutes. I was close to coming a few times but held off, waiting for her to get excited. I could feel her orgasm start to build but my legs were getting very tired and just as she got close, they gave out and I had to stop. She wasn't the kind of "working girl" that was going to give me time to recover so I called it quits with neither her coming nor me. Not my finest work. Probably not hers either. She was probably the best looking girl I've been with, but it was a soulless fuck. I was surprised to learn that she likes Indians the best: they come quick. Easy work she called it.
It is now about 1 o'clock, which is early by Pattaya standards. I still have 2,520 Baht. I expect I'll go back out and dance, budgeting 1,500 for the girl and 1,000 for the drinks. As it turned out, I should have taken more for the drinks!! Went to iBar and Insomnia: what an amazing place. It was packed to the gills on both levels. The girls were stunning and they far outnumbered the guys. How could a guy miss? Well I missed a time or two. I moved around the dance floor hoping for indicators of interest. Hundreds of girls on the prowl for falangs and nothing. At last I thought I found a very pretty one and bought the girl a drink, and one for her friend too. Between my three drinks and their two, I'd blown through my 1,000 Baht drink reserve. I would have had more in reserve except for the 600 Baht I blew on the stupid sex show. The rest of my cash was at the hotel.
Dejected, I went downstairs and moved over to a corner, intending to have an smoke and a drink before retiring. Instead, I found myself on the periphery of a party led by two Ukrainians. For a while, I watched their girls dance seductively. Getting frustrated, I went to leave and one of the girls started grinding into me. She was sexy as hell. She danced brilliantly and without inhibition. We danced like that, grinding, for twenty minutes. She threw in more than a few wet kisses too, and wrapped my hands onto her belly. It got to the point where my legs started cramping. I took a small break, then she started dancing again with more wet kisses. I had bought her no drinks, being out of money, but I asked if she wanted to leave and to my surprise she said yes. Talk about pulling a rabbit out of my hat!
Unfortunately, she and her friends wanted to dance for one more hour at the Candy Shop. Out of money, I knew this was trouble. She asked for a drink. I reached into my pocket and came up short. A fellow next to me covered the cost. I told her I was going to get more money and asked her to wait. I got lost for a while on the side streets leading to my hotel but eventually made my way back. I tried to repay the fellow who helped me. Then I spied her on the dance floor, tight with another guy, younger and more built than me. We made eye contact. I was hoping she'd wave me over. She didn't. They soon left. Soon after that, I left; angry and disappointed. I had invested nothing in her except fleeting emotion but it hurt. Lesson: pack enough ammunition. In the end, wasting 600 Baht on the lame sex show cost me what I'm pretty sure would have been one absolutely awesome fuck. I'm heading to bed. It is nearly 6 o'clock. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Four days left. Fucking hell!
Trip tally: Thirty-eight fucks in total with twenty-two different women including newbie Dao today spread over twenty-three days.
Uncle Volodya
04-05-15, 22:01
Just a few things.
The guys with the hotter women than you are probably paying more or investing more time to find them.
I can tell you the hotter women won't be on Beach Road.
Maybe you should invest more time looking for quality instead of trying to rack up numbers.
Probably not a good idea to be eating any woman you just met on beach road.
Other than that enjoy.Good advice for WildBill. You certainly are racking up numbers, but it comes with a tradeoff: quality.
I don't worry so much about numbers as I do about finding pretty ladies for GFE experiences. And I don't even mind going home empty handed on occasion.
But to each his own.
WildBillLewis
04-05-15, 22:13
Today started off around 1 o'clock with a Baht bus down Second Road because I wanted a massage for 100 Baht. These could be had along Soi Buakhao. The farther I went, the closer I got (unintentionally) to Nit's shop and out she came, waving me over. She sold me first on the idea of a massage and then on the idea of giving it another try: what a soft I am! Then I went for a long walk along Beach Road, bringing me to the Soi 1 and 2 area, where last night's vixen had told me she worked. I couldn't resist the temptation to look for her, but no luck (and just as well). Walked back to Beach Road through Soi 6. Some good looking girls were available there for 1,200 Baht if you can avoid the "lady drink" trap.
Stumbled across a good looker on Beach Road near Central Road named Ann, aged 24, and negotiated "short time" for 820 Baht. Strange price. Anyway, we hopped a Baht bus back to my place where she turned out to be have a playful and engaging personality. She called me Pappa and told me that I must have been handsome when I was younger. I'm sixty. But was still "OK". When naked, it turned out that she had quite a scar from a motorbike accident, but it bothered her more than me. Unfortunately she didn't kiss my mouth nor even care to look into my eyes, but she did have a way with her hands on my body unlike any other Thai I've had on this trip and she did kiss my body. Before getting going, I'd taken two Kamagara packets. After giving her a massage, with a little prompting, I got hard and stayed that way for probably about 15 minutes, doing missionary, cowboy and doggie, at which point my legs ran out gas so I stopped without coming (#23.1). I was quite prepared to let her go at that point, but she insisted on making me come and rubbed my dick on her at which point I did get hard again. She then asked if I wanted to go again. First time that has ever happened with a "short time" Beach Road girl. And so I fucked her again (#23.2) for another ten minutes before my legs again caved. I gave her 900 Baht when she left.
It is now 8 o'clock: early by Pattaya standards. I have 3,370 Baht left after grabbing a bite to eat, buying socks, smokes and condoms: lots of ammo. Might grab a bite, then get some sleep before heading back to Beach Road. Did exactly that, sleeping until nearly 2 o'clock in the morning. Decided to head to a disco instead of Beach Road with the intention of just watching the girls dance. Got to The Pier, was ushered to a table and in walk two girls who are also ushered to my table. One of them immediately shows strong interest. She's older - 44 I learn later. And while her slim body appeals to me, her face appeals a little less, until she smiles that is, which she does a lot. Her first drink is free, her friend leaves, leaving her her drink, and I only have one so my total investment so far has been only 150 Baht. Her name is Chicken. The dirty dancing soon starts, not quite as sexy as the young one that I missed out on the night before, but good nonetheless. I ask her if she wants to go with me. She says yes. No price is discussed. Back at the room, we have a nice talk. I give her a massage. Things warm up. I get her to finger fuck herself. She comes. We start to fuck (#24.1) and she is awesome beyond words, the way she kisses and touches (both herself and me) and gets aroused and makes sounds and comes: man, does she ever come, and often too. She also has a way of squeezing my cock in rhythm, relaxing for a few strokes and then gripping it tightly for a few strokes. No starfish, this one! This goes on for about 30 minutes, always in some variant of the missionary position, at which point it is about 6 o'clock in the morning and my legs can't take any more.
So we stop and discover blood on the sheets. She cleans it up while I go out for more beer. We relax and talk, then agree to sleep for a while, but then we start kissing and one thing leads to another, and I take her from behind slowly and gently for another 20 minutes or so (#24.2). This time neither of us comes and we fall asleep. I wake up a short while later with me still inside her. We sleep for a few hours, then I am woken up by the sound of her showering. I do the same, then I give her another massage. Things heat up again. Again I get her to finger fuck herself. This time she uses three fingers and gets excited. Then the entry: I'm using my first Thai condoms since I've used up all my Canadian ones. What an awesome feeling. We fuck (#24.3) for almost an hour, sometimes in missionary, and sometimes with her on top, until she is exhausted both from exertion and orgasms. Chicken was not the prettiest of the 24 woman I've fucked on this trip, but she was the most perfect fuck I think I have ever had, outdoing even the memorable Luckky from two years ago. I give her 1,200 Baht in the morning. She asks if she can see me again and gives me her number. Wow!
Tally: Forty-three fucks in twenty-four days spread across twenty-four different girls including two first-timers today: Ann and Chicken.
Kamsutra69
04-06-15, 10:03
Day 1:
My first time ever in this paradise. Having mongered far and wide, I could not let this induction opportunity go. I had done a bit of research and got a lot of helpful info on ISG and from pattayaredeye.com. AO and UncleV sent in some tips too. Thanks a lot for that.
Reached Bangkok very early in the morning. Mr T was there to pick me up. The taxi was ok but can't complain at 1000 baht. We were at the Flipper Lodge on Soi 8 by 8 am. They were kind enough to check me in a sea view room that early. Not a bad view at all. Plus the room was clean, cheap and (guest) friendly. Wifi was extra but never needed it as all the bars and cafes around provide free wifi.
Being tired from the flight I slept till about 11:30. When I woke up, I realised that I was hungry and I needed a good wash. I had read that the all the soapy's have opening time of 12 to 2. So with time at hand I grabbed a sandwich and drink to go on a "Soi" exploration.
Turns out that there is quite a bit of distance between Soi 7 and 6. So caught hold of a bike taxi and he took me through all the Soi's to Honey 2, Sabai Dee, Sabai Room and Honey 1. All at 40 baht. Unfortunately none had anything of my liking. May be it was too early. So I asked him to drop me back at Honey 2. It was more to take shelter from the heat with a hope that some girl of my liking will walk in. But then I noticed Amm whom I had missed the first time. Chubby (at right places) young thing with full lips and doe eyes. Paid 2500 baht and we were at it as soon as were in the room. Lot of kissing and fingering even before the massage could start. Now, I have had massages in Bangkok before but Aam turned out to be the lousiest masseuse. I was actually laughing at her efforts while lying on my stomach. But she was innocent and willing. So at the cost of a good massage, I did get wonderful and caring sex. A happy ending.
After a nap back in the hotel, I got up to a dark evening. All fresh and ready for a walk to the WS. The night was just getting started. Still plenty of tourists on the street. Didn't feel like going in to any of the clubs. So started walking back on the Beach Road looking for a ST. Slim pickings. Before I knew I had reached opposite Soi 7. Went in to one of the bars playing good music and with just one pool table. There were only 6/8 girls. Picked Naas, 22 and got both of us a drink. The owner told me that she has just started working. You could tell because she wasn't dressed or made up like the others. She was already happy with me buying her couple of drinks. So I paid the bar fine and took her to my room just a Soi away. 1000 baht for ST. Had a great time. Haven't had a young thing like her for a long time (pics attached). I had a early excursion booked for the next morning so sent her off by 11:30. Got a call from the reception to check if all was ok. It was.
It was time to sleep.
Uncle Volodya
04-06-15, 14:35
Day 1:
My first time ever in this paradise. Having mongered far and wide, I could not let this induction opportunity go. I had done a bit of research and got a lot of helpful info on ISG and from pattayaredeye.com. AO and UncleV sent in some tips too. Thanks a lot for that.
Good work! I look forward to reading more about your trip!
WildBillLewis
04-06-15, 18:53
I changed hotels again. I'm now back at the Walking Street Guest House. I'm aiming for two new "short time" fucks before Nit arrives at around 1 o'clock in the morning: hope she's up for some dancing! Need to sleep first: the thighs are hurting. Maybe I'll take a T3, go for a massage, then sleep.
Amazing Thailand! I got up at around 9 o'clock in the evening, went to the Beach and spotted Gaia who looked good. She wanted 1,000 Baht but settled for 800. I took her back to the room: she was very cold on the way. In the room, she wanted her money up front. In my experience, this is always a big warning sign! "No, after" I said. "Why not before?" she asked. "No, after" I said. She didn't want a massage. Didn't want foreplay. She wanted me to go straight to "boom boom". She got increasingly chippy in her attitude, which made me increasingly chippy in mine and it killed what little enthusiasm I initially had for her. "Alright, you get me hard" I said. She tugged and pulled in ways that made things worse, not better. I tried to get her to rub my dick on her pussy. She did so lamely, averting her gaze: another big turn-off for me. To avoid any further lousy handwork on her part, I laid my cock between our bodies so that it would contact her clit and begin with a fucking motion, varying the speed. This produced no signs of enjoyment in her, which kept me limp instead of getting me hard. I kept this up for about 10 minutes. After a few more minutes I eventually got just hard enough to slide it into her and pumped away for a while, not because I was enjoying it, but just to make her earn her money. I then sent her on her way. I understand why she wanted the money up front: her performance attitude must make many (probably most) of her customers wish they had walked on by, and I'll bet that quite a few clients have sent her packing with little or nothing: hence the "up front" routine. I'd swallowed a double dose of Kamagara beforehand which showed that modern chemicals cannot make up for a lack of good old-fashioned chemistry. I do not wish her well.
From the best fuck of my life with 44 year old Chicken about twelve hours before to perhaps the lamest fuck ever with the good-looking 20-something Gaia. Same guy, but completely different responses from two very different partners. Proof positive that chemistry with the right partner really does make the difference. It isn't about age. It isn't about looks. It isn't about what you pay. It's about finding the right chemistry between two people.
It's now about 10:30 in the evening. I have about 2,00 Baht left, not counting the 1,200 Baht I intend to give to Nit. It will be interesting to see how it goes with Nit. I have time for another "short time" if I want it, but I don't seem to want it. It seems I prefer the thrill of dancing, building a rapport, then going back to the room. The trouble is that I'll be with Nit in a few hours, precisely when that kind of thing is going on at clubs not far away. Anyway, I decided to go to The Pier at about 11 pm and was quickly hit upon by a cute young thing with whom I exchanged numbers. She walked into the club at about. 11:15. We made eye contact. She came over. We danced. I bought drinks for her and her friend. And then Nit called, so off I dashed with regrets!
Anyway, took Nit to hear Lam Morrison (on not his best night), then dancing at a "no smoking" club, then back to the room where we went at it for close to two hours, fucking three times (#14.6, #14.7, #14.8). She has a voracious appetite for sex, that's for sure. She comes easily and often and I've not yet outlasted her: she wants more. Not quite sure where all the money went today, though: the only sex I paid for today was 800 Baht to the lame Gaia and I didn't spend a lot in the Go Go bars. Still, in the next few days, if I don't squander my money, I should finish the trip pretty much within budget, with 25 new fucks and over 50 total fucks.
WildBillLewis
04-06-15, 18:59
I woke up this morning at about 10 o'clock with Nit beside me and fucked her three times (#14.9, # 14.10, #14.11). I finally came the third time. The first fuck lasted a good forty minutes. The others were nearly as long. I'm gassed and the ribs on my right side really hurt. Having fucked so long, Nit decided to skip work and spend the day with me which likely means that my "new beaver" tally will stop at 25. That puts me around the 50 mark lifetime. I wanted to hit 30 or more on this trip, but it won't happen now.
With Nit, at least I get a woman who is passionate and eager in bed. I like hearing her coo "That's good" and "I want to come". I like the way she pulls me to her. I like the way she kisses me constantly. I like the way she sleeps intertwined with me. She is never eager to leave. Instead, she is eager for more. When I was tired after our second fuck of the morning, she rolled me onto my back, told me to rest and said that she would do the work, and so she did, grinding herself into me for another five minutes and coming one more time. I paid her 1,700 Baht for the day plus 300 for the salon.
Another thing I like is that she pampers me. With her encouragement I decided to shave my beard and she insisted on doing it for me. It took her forever. I could have done it much quicker, but she insisted on doing it. She also insists on washing me in the shower and drying me off. My personal hygiene is almost Thai-like, so that is not the issue. She just seems to feel that taking care of me in that way is part of the package if she's going to be with me throughout the day. Her level of care is not quite at the same level as it was with Luckky two years ago in Khao Lak, but it is nice nonetheless. Very nice. Anybody who has experienced the care that a Thai woman can lavish on a man who she really likes will know what I am talking about, and for those who have yet to experience it, you are in for a treat if ever you are lucky enough to find such a woman.
Nit is back at her place now, doing chores and gathering things. We plan to go to a movie, then have pizza which she likes, then come back and fuck some more. And so it was: we did it two more times that night (#14.12, #14.13) before falling asleep in each others' arms. Tomorrow we're off to Jomtien Beach.
Tally as of Day 26: Forty-nine fucks so far (including 13 so far with Nit) spread across 25 different women.
WildBillLewis
04-06-15, 19:09
The plan was to get up reasonably early, then play around a bit which resulted in two more fucks (#14.14, #14.15). Since we spent so long in bed, we ended up heading to Jomtien beach for the afternoon, which is easy to get to and from by Baht bus. The plan was to head back for a meal and some fucking. We had a nice day at the beach but I started to feel queasy on the way back: too little sleep and too much sun. We split up, with me going for a hair cut, a shave and a massage.
I started feeling better, so I got together with Nit and headed to eat at a local festival when she started to get interested in the messages I was sending to other girls. Then she started to get jealous and a little chippy. This, plus fresh offers from both Yoyo and Jeab to join them on my last night, made me start to think twice about spending more time with Nit. Anyway, I felt committed, so I stayed with her.
She then went "off script" by insisting that I a) not grab a badly-needed nap and b) spend the early part of the evening with her at Bamboo. I was there for two torture-filled hours when I could have been sleeping. The band was dreadful: they murdered every song. The guys were pathetically geriatric. I was probably the best looking guy there. And the women, with just a few exceptions, were the dregs of Pattaya's freelancers. Emptied of enthusiasm, I shuffled about the dance floor on already-wobbly and tired legs for two hours listening the band butcher song after song. Around 1 o'clock the torture ended and I was allowed to go to a disco where Nit proceeded to be as unenthusiastic in the disco as I had been at Bamboo. After downing my drink, I marched her out, seething inside and prepared to simply go to sleep and say goodbye in the morning.
Then, to my surprise she started to get amorous back at the room. Unfortunately the mood was quickly broken when the conversation turned to her previous marriages and, in particular, her 10 year marriage to a European guy from which issued one son. The deadbeat provides no support according to her. After about an hour of telling me sad tales, she surprised me again when, after tales of doom and gloom, she decided that she wanted to fuck me anyway, which we did, twice. Over the span of at least an hour (#14.16, #14.17). What a voracious sexual appetite that girl has: she loves to ride on top and have me hold her ass, lips locked. I came the second time.
Afterwards, we get to talking and I learn from her that while she knows from the attention she gets from men that she is sexy, in her opinion she is not good at sex. It seems I bring out the wild animal buried inside her. This supports my conviction that it is all about finding the right match, every bit as much true for a woman as for a man. And to do that, you've got rack up the "hit count" because you just never know which "hits" will be simpatico.
Trip tally: With just one day to go, fifty-three fucks in twenty-seven days (including seventeen times with Nit) spread over twenty-five different women.
WildBillLewis
04-06-15, 19:18
My last day: the plan was to get up reasonably early, play around a bit (which we did, fucking three times (#14.18, #14.19, #14.20), then hustle off to Bangkok to see Sirina before heading to the airport. I expect no action and have likely closed my account at 25 new fucks and a total of 56 fucks in 28 days. I am satisfied with the count, all things considered, but have learned some lessons along the way about squandering money in silly ways and chasing down blind alleys.
Who knows what mistakes I'll make with Sirina. Answer: only one. I spent too much money to no real effect. Sirina and I had met on Thai Friendly and had exchanged perhaps a hundred messages on Line over the past 10 days. In person, Sirina proved to be just a little overweight and, like me, I think she was a little disappointed in what she saw.
Over dinner she warmed up and we talked for many hours, but the dinner ended up costing me 1,700 Baht, albeit spread over five dishes and some beer. Clearly, parts of Bangkok "enjoys" European-like prices. Sirina had distinctly negative views of sex tourists (like me) but I didn't pursue this discussion and neither did she since it would have led us no place good. She kindly dropped me at Makkashan station so I could catch the airport rail link. I then took the train to the airport, arrived around 11 pm, found a bench and slept fitfully until I checked in for my flight at around 5 am in preparation for a 7 am departure and a 24 hour flight home from Bangkok via Narita and Chicago to Toronto. A quiet end to the vacation.
Final tally: Fifty-six fucks (including 20 with Nit) spread among twenty-five women over the course of twenty-eight days.
Many lessons learned to boot. Maybe I'll try to distill those into a posting or two.
It is funny, as I prepare my trip to Pattaya and visit virtually with google maps I see a ton but a ton of caucasian men around 60 years old everywhere.
Naked Gunz
04-07-15, 03:15
It is funny, as I prepare my trip to Pattaya and visit virtually with google maps I see a ton but a ton of caucasian men around 60 years old everywhere.Wow, somebody said it. Ha! Welcome to my Thai world! And if your a person of color, they are not very welcoming. Many time I get the cold shoulder from pot bellied Brits and Aussies being overly protective of turf and broken down Thai hoes. Kinda sad actually to see people drinking at 10AM. Just do your thing and have a blast!
My last day: Many lessons learned to boot. Maybe I'll try to distill those into a posting or two.Enjoyed reading your daily reports, reminded me of journal entries. When in Patts I usually stay on the Darkside; but may give Beach Road another go after reading your adventures!
Hp.
Robert Long
04-07-15, 06:52
It is funny, as I prepare my trip to Pattaya and visit virtually with google maps I see a ton but a ton of caucasian men around 60 years old everywhere.These guys have paid their dues and are enjoying their retirement. Worked their asses off most of their lives married to some fat ***** and now they are free. Give them some respect as you are just looking into your future.
RL.
These guys have paid their dues and are enjoying their retirement. Worked their asses off most of their lives married to some fat ***** and now they are free. Give them some respect as you are just looking into your future.
RL.I don't see any disrespect in Manicure's post. It's simply an observation.
Uncle Volodya
04-07-15, 07:39
Wow, somebody said it. Ha! Welcome to my Thai world! And if your a person of color, they are not very welcoming. Many time I get the cold shoulder from pot bellied Brits and Aussies being overly protective of turf and broken down Thai hoes. Kinda sad actually to see people drinking at 10AM. Just do your thing and have a blast!Well, I just ignore these guys. We're not after the same women and we don't frequent the same places. There is enough fun to be had for the younger set and our worlds don't really collide. They can be an eyesore. But I just look the other way.
So more power to them. May they enjoy their bangers, eggs and beans at English breakfast and wash it down with as many pints as they please!
These guys have paid their dues and are enjoying their retirement. Worked their asses off most of their lives married to some fat ***** and now they are free. Give them some respect as you are just looking into your future.
RL.I certainly hope that my future is not winding up as some alcoholic expat, propping up the end of a bar from 9:00 am onwards, with a beer safety-wired to my hand.
Uncle Volodya
04-07-15, 15:07
I certainly hope that my future is not winding up as some alcoholic expat, propping up the end of a bar from 9:00 am onwards, with a beer safety-wired to my hand.Here, here.
Here, here.Over the last dozen or so years and many visits to many bars of Bangkok, the same dreary elderly men are to be seen lapsing into alcoholic drivel and dribble. Or may be just replaced year by year as.f
Alcohol takes its toll. Absolute nonsense to say they have 'paid their dues". They are drunken no gooders, no hopers on a mission to forget. Unfortunately they are so sad because they have Forgotten what they are trying to forget.
WildBillLewis
04-07-15, 16:27
In the course of my 28 days in Pattaya, I learned many lessons. Here are some of them.
The first lesson (and it is easily forgotten because the girls can seem so lovely) is that while most of them will be happy to go with you, most of them will also be happier to leave with your money in their purse. Money is the only reason they make themselves available to go with you in the first place, be it in the bars or on the beach. It really doesn't matter if you are the reincarnation of Casanova himself, while they may enjoy their time spent with you, they plan to be with someone else the next day or the day after that. That is their business model. In fact, as I learned from one of the women I was with, going with Casanova involves more work than going with some fat, old, tired man who can't get it up because he drank too much. Better still is the man who comes quickly because the work is less tiring and time-consuming. The thing to remember, especially when it comes to those who seemingly offer the "girlfriend experience" is that you are just one of many and the sooner they have parted you from your money, the sooner they can part their legs for the next man in line.
The next lesson (and again it is easily forgotten because the girls can seem so lovely) is to try to avoid building up anything more than a superficial emotional bond. The shorter the encounter, the more easily this can be done. You will spend money very unwisely and in great quantities trying to win the affection of a seemingly lovely Thai woman. The fundamental reason is explained above: your are just one guy in a long line of guys and as much as they "like" going with you, the thing they like best is leaving with your money.
Third, don't waste money on frivolous items. Save your ammunition and use it wisely. Opinions vary, and this is just my opinion, but sex shows are a complete waste of time. Go Go bars hoover your money out of your pockets with drinks for you and the ladies, and the bar fines for the coyote girls are steep and the price the coyote girls demand for sexual intimacy is even steeper. Moreover, many of those same girls can be had later, for much less, at the discos anyway. Massage parlors that sell sexual services like hand jobs or blow jobs end up being very expensive: there is the equivalent of the bar fine if you want to take the girl away plus the cost of the massage plus the tip (and many of those service providers can also be had later at the discos, and for less). At beer bars, to get a girl, you end up paying the bar fine plus lady drinks for her and a bevy of friends plus you own drink costs (and those girls also go to the discos). Soi Honey massages where you can get done for 1,200 Baht are OK if you like fucking on a mat next to two other guys, one on either side, who are also fucking girls on mats. Like the sex shows, it is worth the experience, but once is probably enough. Soi 6 "short time" girls are OK if you prefer fucking a girl for 1,200 Baht on a bed in a nice private room, but you will be subjected to a girl faking orgasms in order to try and get you to come quickly so your place can be taken by the next guy, and of course you'll also be paying for the cost of drinks before hand. In my 28 days in Pattaya I made it into three or four "soapies" but never saw anything I liked given the steep asking price so I cannot comment on the sexual services from direct experience. Beach girls, on the other hand, while they vary in both the quality of their looks and their services, will usually get it done for you, often in the privacy of your own room, without any other ancillary cost like lady drinks, bar fines and so on for between 700 and 1,000 Baht.
In my experience, Beach Road girls offer the best value for money and the fewest complications if you're looking for a "short time" fuck in the early evening, by which I mean anytime before midnight. To each his own, of course, and Soi 6 exists because there is a demand for the services offered there. The same thing is true of Go Go bars, Soi Honey massage parlors and all the rest including the sex shows. They all exist and they all offer services of their particular type because there is sufficient demand to support those each one of those different business models. I've sampled them all. Others have their preferences, and I have mine.
For a simple, uncomplicated, early evening fuck, my preference is to walk along Beach Road. You can't always pick a winner, but the same is true in the other venues as well, and with those other venues, you'll invariably pay more without any assurance that you'll get more.
That said, in my experience, the best places to go in Pattaya to get laid late at night (and by that I mean between 2 am and 6 am) are the discos. To tap into this market, you need to be prepared to be active very late at night, but if you have the stamina, the benefits are prodigious. The freelancers go there. The Go Go girls go there after work. The bar girls go there. The massage girls go there. The best of the Beach Road girls go there too. For a red-blooded man of any age, the discos of Pattaya are like the proverbial Happy Hunting Ground from the lore of the North American Indian.
In a place like Insomnia which begins to hum as early as midnight, it is not uncommon to find the place filled 70% with women (with about half of them almost impossibly hot), 5% with ladyboys and 25% with falangs of various ages, body types, confidence levels and wallet sizes. And the girls who are there, with few exceptions, have as their primary objective the goal of getting one of those men to take them for the night and pay them for services rendered. The discos in Pattaya are like a collaborative effort between God and the Devil with God's contribution being the beauty of Thai women and the Devil's contribution being hip hop music and the way Thai women move their hips in response to it. The Devil chipped in the effect that alcohol has on them too. Opinions differ, but in my opinion, the discos of Pattaya are the place to be.
If your objective is to find love or romance, don't come to Pattaya (or any of the red light districts in Thailand for that matter). If, however, your objective is to get laid, then come to Pattaya, walk the Beach, choose carefully, enjoy yourself, then hit the discos and enjoy yourself again and let the fun reign until well after the sun has risen in the sky. Sleep during the afternoon. Then repeat.
WildBillLewis
04-07-15, 16:58
Enjoyed reading your daily reports, reminded me of journal entries. When in Patts I usually stay on the Darkside; but may give Beach Road another go after reading your adventures!
Hp.I'm glad you found my reports interesting to read. I found them interesting to write. It has also been interesting to see my reports interwoven with the cavalier observations about guys who are around sixty years old. I happen to be sixty years old and have enjoyed the past month in the company of twenty-five different women ranging in ages from their early twenties to their mid-forties. Have I found there to be a correlation between the looks of the women and how they performed in bed? No. Have I found there to be a correlation between how much I paid the women and how they performed in bed? No. Have I found there to be a correlation between the age of the women and how they performed in bed? Yes: as a general observation, the more experienced the women, the better the performance in bed.
The Lord blessed me with a physique and a face that makes me look younger than I am. I don't have a beer hard-wired to my hand, I drink in moderation and am never sozzled. Having taken the time to talk at length with many Thai women in my 28 days in Pattaya in March, I have also discovered that a fit-looking middle-aged guy has certain qualities that can be attractive to Thai women, especially those above the age of twenty-five. We tend to be financially stable, experienced in the way of things and confident. We also know, having once ourselves been in our twenties, thirties and forties, that maturity brings greater perspective and with it, more tolerance for the circumstances in which others find themselves.
WildBillLewis
04-07-15, 17:24
What's the difference. With very few exceptions Beach road, Pattaya gogo girls are pretty much the same.I would agree with your observation, and in 28 days in March I spent a fair amount of time combing through what was offered on Soi 6, Soi Honey, Soi Buakhao, the various venues on Walking Street (Go Go bars, discos, beer bars, etc.) and, of course, walking up and down Beach Road. In each and every case, you lay your bets and you take your chances, and in my experience the odds of getting one who's good in bed are no better and no worse on Beach Road than they are in any other venue. What is more, good looks do not guarantee good performance in bed. Paying more for girls also does not guarantee good performance in bed. I have, however, found a correlation between age and a girl's performance in bed. I had a number of girls in their twenties who performed well but also a number who didn't: about half and half, roughly speaking. With women in their thirties, the odds of finding a good one from whatever venue got significantly better. With women in their early forties, the odds got even better. Of the twenty-five different women I had in the past month, there were only three or four who were over forty years of age but they were all, in my opinion, either really good or great in bed. One of them was quite simply the best fuck I've ever had in my life. Not everyone wants to bed a woman in their forties. I understand that. I am 60 years old (although I look about ten years younger), so for me it presents no problem. If others want to forego that opportunity, so much the better for those who are prepared to embrace a wider range of choices.
Thanks for spending the time to write reports, I have read them all, and although each of us will have a different experience (it is like tasting wine, the non expert will say they all taste the same but it is not). And yes there is nothing to be ashamed of being 60, experience well used is a bonus unless you are drunk.
Kamsutra69
04-07-15, 19:51
Day 2:
I was back in the town after a disappointing excursion by 3 pm. Sweaty and beat, I was in desperate need of a good wash and a real massage. Ended up in Honey2 again. Spotted Amm sitting in the crowd. We made eye contact and smiled at each other. But then I remembered her terrible massaging skills. I was in no mood of a lousy massage. So got up in a haste and left the building. Walked across the street to Sabai Room. While Honey2 was full of girls, Sabai Room was almost empty. Gave a once over and found no one to my liking. I decided to stay there, again hoping that someone of my liking will walk in. Right then I noticed a column right in the middle of the "fish tank" and could see feet of the girl seated right behind it. I stretched out of my chair to have better look. She was stunning and could have easily passed of as a Latina. Dark, tanned skin, small but shapely breasts and a rotund yet tight arse. Picked her at 2500 baht. As we got in the room, I started teasing her just to check her mood. Well, she turned out to be a mood killer and wanted nothing to do with the fun part of the whole process. I was beat enough not to try harder. So I just laid there getting a fantastic massage without as much as touching her. The rest of it was mechanical. But I came out clean and relaxed.
After a sound nap, I was on the Walking Street again by 9 pm. It was busy and I could see more girls out on the street luring in punters than the previous night. It was Saturday night. I walked around a bit to reach in front of Hot Tuna Bar. The band there was belting out some great numbers. AC / DC, Dire Straits, Pink Floyd, Metallica et al. I went in for couple of beers and tequila shots. Ended up spending two and half hours requesting my favourite numbers and buying beers for the band. They are quite good.
Happy and tipsy, I started walking back to the BR around 11:30 but got pulled in by a Russian girl in Galaxy Club. Now I have frequented strip clubs in Moscow, Prague, Milan and Frankfurt. And I have always found the eastern European and Russian girls to be the best at it. May be it's their communist past that I make them pleasantly uninhibited. So I was more than happy to oblige. Now strip club is my thing. I can spend hours chatting up with the girls, buying them drinks and getting private dances. I once dated a cute student stripper from Bouzouki Greek in Detroit after spending couple of hours with her at the club. She became my companion on all my subsequent visits. A pleasant thing. I know that its an expensive indulgence. But I would rather spend money watching beautiful girls tease me by taking off their clothes than fuck a three holer. But that's just my thing.
I was happy to discover this other side of Pattaya with beautiful Russian girls. This combination of petite and innocent Thai girls with sexy eastern Europeans has now made Pattaya my favourite destination to return to. And return I will. May be as soon as in June.
Till then. Happy mongering!!
Feelz Good
04-07-15, 21:13
I am also 60 and had 23 days back in November. Your experiences are dead on with my memories. I tried to taste all venues and your observations of the Thai ladies is right on. Some are fantastic actors when it comes to the session, but all that really matters is that they leave with your money. You are a superman of sex in my opinion, because in my trip I had 16 encounters and had to take a day or two off because I went dry. Thanks again for your posts they really brought back some fond memeories.
I would agree with your observation, and in 28 days in March I spent a fair amount of time combing through what was offered on Soi 6, Soi Honey, Soi Buakhao, the various venues on Walking Street (Go Go bars, discos, beer bars, etc.) and, of course, walking up and down Beach Road. In each and every case, you lay your bets and you take your chances, and in my experience the odds of getting one who's good in bed are no better and no worse on Beach Road than they are in any other venue. What is more, good looks do not guarantee good performance in bed. Paying more for girls also does not guarantee good performance in bed. I have, however, found a correlation between age and a girl's performance in bed. I had a number of girls in their twenties who performed well but also a number who didn't: about half and half, roughly speaking. With women in their thirties, the odds of finding a good one from whatever venue got significantly better. With women in their early forties, the odds got even better. Of the twenty-five different women I had in the past month, there were only three or four who were over forty years of age but they were all, in my opinion, either really good or great in bed. One of them was quite simply the best fuck I've ever had in my life. Not everyone wants to bed a woman in their forties. I understand that. I am 60 years old (although I look about ten years younger), so for me it presents no problem. If others want to forego that opportunity, so much the better for those who are prepared to embrace a wider range of choices.
WildBillLewis
04-07-15, 23:22
I am also 60 and had 23 days back in November. Your experiences are dead on with my memories. I tried to taste all venues and your observations of the Thai ladies is right on. Some are fantastic actors when it comes to the session, but all that really matters is that they leave with your money. You are a superman of sex in my opinion, because in my trip I had 16 encounters and had to take a day or two off because I went dry. Thanks again for your posts they really brought back some fond memories.Proof positive that guys like you and me at age sixty can still swing a mean bat and, if the stars align, we can still knock it out of the park. And to stay with the sports analogies, having the wisdom to take a day or two off can enhance one's performance. Coaches rest great running backs and managers rest great pitchers.
I'd be interested to know if you're planning to return to Pattaya. There is so much more of this world and its women for us all to explore. I am sure that other parts of the world have their attractions. I have been to a few such spots. I've been to Mexico. I've been to Russia and took pleasure there. I have been to the Philippines, including Angeles City (and was not much impressed to be honest). I hope to explore Cambodia and Vietnam in the near future. That said, I am fairly certain that there is nowhere else in this world that can offer a man the quality and the quantity of carnal pleasure that Pattaya can offer.
One more thing: when I go back, I will return a much smarter consumer. I will waste much less of my time, energy and money on activities that are peripheral to the real task at hand, and while I will return with a similar budget, I will spend it to much greater effect. Of that I am sure.
Third, don't waste money on frivolous items. Save your ammunition and use it wisely. Opinions vary, and this is just my opinion, but sex shows are a complete waste of time. Go Go bars hoover your money out of your pockets with drinks for you and the ladies, and the bar fines for the coyote girls are steep and the price the coyote girls demand for sexual intimacy is even steeper. Moreover, many of those same girls can be had later, for much less, at the discos anyway. Massage parlors that sell sexual services like hand jobs or blow jobs end up being very expensive: there is the equivalent of the bar fine if you want to take the girl away plus the cost of the massage plus the tip (and many of those service providers can also be had later at the discos, and for less). At beer bars, to get a girl, you end up paying the bar fine plus lady drinks for her and a bevy of friends plus you own drink costs (and those girls also go to the discos). Soi Honey massages where you can get done for 1,200 Baht are OK if you like fucking on a mat next to two other guys, one on either side, who are also fucking girls on mats.
That said, in my experience, the best places to go in Pattaya to get laid late at night (and by that I mean between 2 am and 6 am) are the discos. To tap into this market, you need to be prepared to be active very late at night, but if you have the stamina, the benefits are prodigious. The freelancers go there. The Go Go girls go there after work. The bar girls go there. The massage girls go there. The best of the Beach Road girls go there too. For a red-blooded man of any age, the discos of Pattaya are like the proverbial Happy Hunting Ground from the lore of the North American Indian.
In a place like Insomnia which begins to hum as early as midnight, it is not uncommon to find the place filled 70% with women (with about half of them almost impossibly hot), 5% with ladyboys and 25% with falangs of various ages, body types, confidence levels and wallet sizes. And the girls who are there, with few exceptions, have as their primary objective the goal of getting one of those men to take them for the night and pay them for services rendered. The discos in Pattaya are like a collaborative effort between God and the Devil with God's contribution being the beauty of Thai women and the Devil's contribution being hip hop music and the way Thai women move their hips in response to it. The Devil chipped in the effect that alcohol has on them too. Opinions differ, but in my opinion, the discos of Pattaya are the place to be.
65 baht for a draft beer is not that much to spend in order to look for a top talent that might make your trip. Plus you really can't sit in your hotel room between finding girls on beach road. You don't have to buy ladydrinks for any girl or her friends, just the one you might want to spend some time with. As to being active at night, you should also consider your hotels location to said disco's. If your a few minutes walk to the disco's, you can easily check out the scene every so often and see if a jem's available. Another thing to consider is visiting in off season when the guys hunting are less and the women are more desperate to make a buck.
Would be glad if someone could suggest girl friendly hotels in 3 & 4 star category close to walking street. I plan to be there in the second week of May.
Firstly sorry for my late post as was too busy with work.
Was in Pattaya from the 20th of Feb. Till 23th of Feb. And then a week in BKK for work.
Date: Friday February 20.
Name: Mai and second ones name I don't remember.
Face: 4/5
Body: 4/5
Age: 24 (Mai) and another one 27
Service: GFE.
Repeat: only Mai.
Session: overnight.
Cost: 4000 Baht for both + 500 Baht tip + 300 Bath bar fine for each.
Was at Soi 8 - best bar and say this another chick first and my friend called her. We negotiated her and then got my eyes over Mai. Called her too.
Was not interested in picking up this another chick but as I had already negotiated with her so I was not feeling good about it so threw an offer of 4000 for both of them and they discussed among themselves in Thai and agreed. Paid bar fine for then and left the bar at around 9. 30. We went to walking street and then to 808 disco. We had a great time there. These girls were fun along and we also had another 2 chicks which my other friends had picked up. We played with this girls in the disco, danced together. Had a ball of a time till 2 am.
Finally decided to have some food and head towards to hotel.
In the room these girls took me first for a shower. Mai was much more fun loving then the other one. They gave me a wild BBJ in the shower and ended with Mai giving me a CIM.
They cleaned me and told me to wait for them on the bed. These girls has shower together and came on the the bed. One thing I noticed that after having a few mai tai's its fucking difficult to change condoms again and again for the girls. Haha yes the girls managed with me well. First Mai capped me and climbed on top for CG while I was fingering the other one with one hand and pressing Mai's soft boobs with another. Changed position to doggie and wanted to hump the another girl. So Mai changed Dom for me and started humping the second one. Finally changed Dom again and took Mai in miss where I shot my load. Wow this was a fantastic night I had after a long flight.
Went to bed. Got morning wood as a wake-up call. Told the second girl to leave and one more session only with Mai with lots of foreplay and finished her in doggie.
Superb time with these girls. Would 100% repeat Mai the second night but had already messaged MAY that I was meeting here the next evening. May was there with me for the rest of the days but will post that later in some other time.
Day 2:
Happy and tipsy, I started walking back to the BR around 11:30 but got pulled in by a Russian girl in Galaxy Club. Now I have frequented strip clubs in Moscow, Prague, Milan and Frankfurt. And I have always found the eastern European and Russian girls to be the best at it. May be it's their communist past that I make them pleasantly uninhibited. So I was more than happy to oblige. Now strip club is my thing. I can spend hours chatting up with the girls, buying them drinks and getting private dances. I once dated a cute student stripper from Bouzouki Greek in Detroit after spending couple of hours with her at the club. She became my companion on all my subsequent visits. A pleasant thing. I know that its an expensive indulgence. But I would rather spend money watching beautiful girls tease me by taking off their clothes than fuck a three holer. But that's just my thing.
I was happy to discover this other side of Pattaya with beautiful Russian girls.What was the tab for your Galaxy Club experience? I have been tempted at times but understand it can be quite pricy. Not passing judgement as we all have different spending levels and you say it is your thing. Just curious.
SunLover.
Proof positive that guys like you and me at age sixty can still swing a mean bat and, if the stars align, we can still knock it out of the park. And to stay with the sports analogies, having the wisdom to take a day or two off can enhance one's performance. Coaches rest great running backs and managers rest great pitchers.I agree recharging with some rest is a useful strategy. Never on Sunday is my working rule and I let the rest of the week play out as it may.
One more thing: when I go back, I will return a much smarter consumer. I will waste much less of my time, energy and money on activities that are peripheral to the real task at hand, and while I will return with a similar budget, I will spend it to much greater effect. Of that I am sure.True this. Returning to a destination with familiarity can result in better focused activities and increased VFM (value for money) with your expenditures.
SunLover.
Traveler1234
04-08-15, 14:54
qualities that can be attractive to Thai women, especially those above the age of twenty-five. We tend to be financially stable, experienced in the way of things and confident. We also know, having once ourselves been in our twenties, thirties and forties, that maturity brings greater perspective and with it, more tolerance for the circumstances in which others find themselves.First, enjoyed reading your field reports.
Second, envious of your stamina. Being slightly older that you, I prefer one day on, one day resting.
And last, of all your posts, the last few summaries said it all. Young and handsum means dick shit to the girls. They also can read us like a book!
Ken_Apples
04-08-15, 15:15
And last, of all your posts, the last few summaries said it all. Young and handsum means dick shit to the girls. They also can read us like a book!Shhh! You risk upsetting the forum, and all those wearing coke bottle thick, rose colored glasses!- Don't go that route.
HH / K. A.
Mr Enternational
04-08-15, 15:59
Just a little reminder:
WildBillLewis
04-08-15, 17:32
One question I puzzled over before my trip was the question of budget. I'm retired, I'm 60 years old, and want to make a number of trips over the next decade. The only way I'll be able to stretch the money I've saved for such follies is to set a budget each trip and try to stick to it. For this trip I set aside a budget of $6,000 Canadian. For the purposes of comparison, that would be roughly $6,200 in Australian dollars, about $4,700 in US dollars and around 3,200 in British pounds.
About $1,000 Canadian (17%) went to airfare to get me there and back. While I was there, I either walked or took the Baht bus for the most part. For accommodation I budgeted another $1,000 Canadian, which worked out to just over 900 Baht a day. For day-to-day necessities like food (bought mostly from street vendors) and other odds and sods (like smokes, beer for the room, proper massages, hair cuts, shaves, additional condoms, Kamagara, etc.), I set aside another $1,000 Canadian, which worked out to another 900 Baht a day. I deliberately set aside nothing for excursions: I had toured about Thailand two years ago: the focus of this trip was girls and I didn't intend to fritter my money away on things unrelated to the purpose. This left me roughly $3,000 Canadian, or half of my budget, to be spent on chasing girls and activities related to getting them into bed. This worked out to about 2,700 Baht a day. Converted back to Canadian dollars, this was roughly equivalent to spending $110 Canadian a day.
That was the plan. How did it work out in practice? Well I went a touch over budget on travel ($100 more than planned) but I spent only about $800 on accommodation ($200 less than planned) and I spent a similar amount on odds and sods (hence another $200 less than planned). That said, I ended up spending $6,200 in total, which meant two things. First, it meant that I ended up slightly over budget by $200 Canadian. Second, it meant that instead of spending $3,000 on women and the related costs of chasing them (drinking with them, buying them drinks, paying bar fines, entertaining them, etc.), I actually ended up spending $3,500 on those activities. Of that I was glad.
Over my 28 days in Pattaya, this worked out to an average of over 3,000 Baht a day, or about $125 Canadian per day of girl-related spending. How did I actually spend that money? This is something that I found interesting and that others might find interesting too. I ended up being with 25 different women ranging in age from their early twenties to their lower forties, with the average age probably being somewhere in the high twenties or low thirties. In terms of looks, everyone's "eye" is different, but to my eye, they ranged from a few in the high 8's down to a few in the middle of the 6 range, with the average being, I would guess, closer to 8 than 7. I mention this to make the point that, in terms of looks, I wasn't a bottom feeder. I kept quite detailed records of what I paid to those women and upon review of my spending, I was surprised to learn that less than $1,000 Canadian in total left my pocket in terms of payments that I made directly to these women and, where applicable, the related bar fines. Spread over the 25 different women I was with in my 28 days in Pattaya, this worked out to about $40 Canadian per new woman. Spread over the 53 fucks I had with these women, it cost me a shade under $19 Canadian per fuck.
Interesting: transportation didn't burn a lot of money, accommodation was cheap by ny measure, the odds and sods of daily living didn't cost me a lot, and the money I paid more or less directly to the women I fucked was ridiculously low when you really looked at it, producing a cost per fuck about which no sensible man could possibly complain.
So if I spent $3,500 Canadian chasing and bedding women but paid those women directly less than $1,000 Canadian, where did the remaining $2,500 Canadian go? By the way, I was quite surprised by how high this "indirect cost" figure was. The inescapable answer is that it went into the pockets of the owners of sundry bars, discos and the occasional restaurant. It went into buying drinks and such for myself and others. In retrospect, I'd say that about 60% of that money was well spent, or about $1,500 Canadian. I don't begrudge most of the money I spent on drinks for me and others in discos or at the beach, nor do I begrudge the money spent buying copious lady drinks for my Laotian friend on Day 19 for example. You have to be prepared to spend money, especially for others, because it acts as a "social lubricant".
I feel that the remaining $1,000 Canadian, however, could have been spent more wisely. In retrospect, I regret wasting that money on things like going to a sex show (which I did once) or going to watch girls dance at Go Go bars, or buying booze at beer bars where, deep down, I knew that either I had no real interest in the girls in the bar and / or they had no real interest in me. I blew through far too much money in that way.
Here's the thing about spending money in beer bars. The drinks seem cheap and, looked at one at a time, they are cheap, but buying drinks in those bars is a lot like fishing where, rod in hand, you cast and cast and cast your line and, from time to time, you catch something. The true cost of that catch is not measured by the single successful cast but by all the the time spent casting and casting and casting without success. I don't drink to get drunk, but that draft beer for 65 Baht, plus drinks for the lady and her coterie of friends can, over the course of a few hours, quickly morph into a lot of money spent to little effect, all in the name of being a "nice guy". In my experience, that's how it is with visits to beer bars: I spent a lot of time (and money) casting about and, while I will got some notable strikes, more often the only thing I came away with was a hole in my pocket. As I look back on it now, that money could have been used to much better effect. Now I went to Pattaya to learn, and I had to make these mistakes in order to learn from them. When I return to Pattaya, I won't spend less. I will just spend it differently.
Why have I bothered to provide such a detailed accounting? First, this kind of awareness will help me better direct my own spending the next time I go on such a junket. Second, it may help others budget and spend their money to better effect.
Uncle Volodya
04-08-15, 20:31
Why have I bothered to provide such a detailed accounting? First, this kind of awareness will help me better direct my own spending the next time I go on such a junket. Second, it may help others budget and spend their money to better effect.Hi Bill. I liked your posts and found them very informative. And I appreciate you laying out the budget in detail. But I couldn't help wondering if you weren't over doing it by gunning for those numbers. I mean they were stellar! (You are the Wilt Chamberlain of this board for sure) But in going for numbers I think you may have sacrificed quality for quantity.
I plan to spend just a little more than you for my month long trip in August (granted I am still a working stiff). But I don't anticipate that I will end up with a girl EVERY night. In fact I will probably skip every third night or so and maybe sometimes just get a quickie with a chick form BR for 1 K or less.
This will give me more money to spend the nights I do go out looking for a stellar girl. Also it give me more time and energy to focus on finding the right one (or ones LOL).
Also to save money I have a couple of girls that I know I can call for great GFE that will only set me back 1. 5-2 K for the entire night. It takes time to build up these relationships. And we do genuinely like each other and have fun in each others company too. Building these kind of relationships takes a bit of time (I've done it over 3 trips I've made over the last year). But its what I really enjoy most. And it feels great when these girls call you at home on your Birthday or Valentine's day too).
Just food for thought. But if racking up numbers is your thing then you are the triple crown winner. And hey if that's what you're into who am I to judge!!
Stay horny my friend.
Uncle V.
WildBillLewis
04-08-15, 23:27
Hi Bill. I liked your posts and found them very informative. And I appreciate you laying out the budget in detail. But I couldn't help wondering if you weren't over doing it by gunning for those numbers. I mean they were stellar! (You are the Wilt Chamberlain of this board for sure) But in going for numbers I think you may have sacrificed quality for quantity.
I plan to spend just a little more than you for my month long trip in August (granted I am still a working stiff). But I don't anticipate that I will end up with a girl EVERY night. In fact I will probably skip every third night or so and maybe sometimes just get a quickie with a chick form BR for 1 K or less.
This will give me more money to spend the nights I do go out looking for a stellar girl. Also it give me more time and energy to focus on finding the right one (or ones LOL).
Also to save money I have a couple of girls that I know I can call for great GFE that will only set me back 1. 5-2 K for the entire night. It takes time to build up these relationships. And we do genuinely like each other and have fun in each others company too. Building these kind of relationships takes a bit of time (I've done it over 3 trips I've made over the last year). But its what I really enjoy most. And it feels great when these girls call you at home on your Birthday or Valentine's day too).
Uncle V.First off, let me say that I have appreciated your comments, kind words and suggestions, just as I have appreciated the ones kindly offered by others. I had a specific objective on this trip, and it did involve racking up numbers. I did have three "dry" days (2, 7 and 11) although these were not by choice. If I could have, I would have, but as in baseball, sometimes you go "0 for". When I was in Thailand two years ago and the Philippines last year, I was more into the girlfriend experience (and two girls from the Philippines sent me birthday wishes this past year), and so I had lower numbers on those trips by design. By the end of this trip, I'd also settled into the girlfriend experience with Nit (who was in her early forties), but I could have done so with equal ease with two others (one in her mid-twenties and one in her early thirties), both of whom showed interest, and both of whom seemed to be genuinely warm personalities. I remain in touch with all three using Line.
As for quality, I am not sure I sacrificed all that much. What I did learn, in racking up the numbers, is that there is no real correlation between a girl's looks and her bed manner, nor is there any real correlation between what you pay and her performance in bed. The only real correlation I found was related to age: the older the women, the more you could count on a good performance in bed. On this trip I had girls in their twenties (I'd say that about 10 of the 25 I had were in their twenties), about half of whom performed well and half whom didn't. I had girls in their thirties (and I'd say that about 10 of the 25 were in their thirties), most of whom performed well. The rest were women in their early forties, all of whom performed exceptionally well.
It would, of course, be great to find a women in her twenties who looks like Venus herself, who's a vixen in the sack, who gives a home town discount because she likes being with you, who also sports the type of genuinely warm personality that one looks for to complete the girlfriend experience. I didn't hit that kind of home run this time. I'm not sure that many people do. I did, however, acquire experience that will likely bring me closer to that mark the next time.
I also learned that you have to be careful about judging things from outward appearances. I had more than a few stellar looking women on my arm who were lousy in bed. The hot-looking long-legged twenty-something bar girl in six inch heels and a tight white dress from Day 5 was the poster child for that experience. Walking back to the room with her, I must have been the envy of every man I passed. Once in the room, she was so lousy in the sack that I gave her 300 Baht to leave. Twenty-something Pung from Day 21 was another example of a girl who was very attractive to look at, and certain to elicit envy from other men, but a great disappointment in the sack. Pha from Day 19 who was in her early twenties, was another very good looking girl who proved to be a disappointment. These girls were all solid 8's, and I'm not generally an easy marker.
I like youth, good looks and discounted prices as much as anyone. Who doesn't? But on the matter of quality when it comes to sex rather that outward appearances, I reserve judgement until I see whether there are sparks in the sack combined with a personality that would motivate me to invite a women to stay.
Let me close by again thanking you and others for comment, kind words and suggestions. Let me also wish you good luck in August. I was in Thailand two years ago in the month of September. It rained on me two out of every three days. Be sure to bring both types of raincoat, if you catch my drift.
Naked Gunz
04-09-15, 01:18
Would be glad if someone could suggest girl friendly hotels in 3 & 4 star category close to walking street. I plan to be there in the second week of May.I don't think any PTY hotels are 'girl unfriendly'. Marriot is the closest to WS that is or near 4*.
LoverboyJerico
04-09-15, 05:59
Guys,
I am planning to reach Pattaya this week. Plan is to stay for 3 nights.
I want to know is it possible to get girls to accompany us to Coral Island during the day?
How and where should I look for such opportunities?
Or should I book thru some escort agency?
Mr Enternational
04-09-15, 06:39
Guys, I am planning to reach pattaya this week. Plan is to stay for 3 nights. I want to know is it possible to get girls to accompany us to coral island during the day. How and where should I look for such opportunities!! Or should I book thru some escort agency.Go to the disco the first night and get some chicks. Tell them your plans to go to Koh Larn the next day. Stop at their place to get their beach clothes (and some regular clothes) before you go back to your hotel. Remember to get to the island you walk straight to the big boats. It costs 30 baht / person. Never mind those speed boats the touts try to get you to take.
As for quality, I am not sure I sacrificed all that much. What I did learn, in racking up the numbers, is that there is no real correlation between a girl's looks and her bed manner, nor is there any real correlation between what you pay and her performance in bed. The only real correlation I found was related to age: the older the women, the more you could count on a good performance in bed. On this trip I had girls in their twenties (I'd say that about 10 of the 25 I had were in their twenties), about half of whom performed well and half whom didn't. I had girls in their thirties (and I'd say that about 10 of the 25 were in their thirties), most of whom performed well. The rest were women in their early forties, all of whom performed exceptionally well.
It would, of course, be great to find a women in her twenties who looks like Venus herself, who's a vixen in the sack, who gives a home town discount because she likes being with you, who also sports the type of genuinely warm personality that one looks for to complete the girlfriend experience. I didn't hit that kind of home run this time. I'm not sure that many people do. I did, however, acquire experience that will likely bring me closer to that mark the next time.Man, just so spot on. You have summed it up accurately and succinctly. There is no correlation with money, only age. Thai gals seem to really acquire skills in their late 20's. Before that they are kind of well, meh for the most part. Of course there are exceptions, but very few. Its a shame that so many dudes still think that more money buys 'them better sex.
Man, just so spot on. You have summed it up accurately and succinctly. There is no correlation with money, only age. Thai gals seem to really acquire skills in their late 20's. Before that they are kind of well, meh for the most part. Of course there are exceptions, but very few. Its a shame that so many dudes still think that more money buys 'them better sex.I think most girls all over the world really acquire skills in their late 20's or early 30's. Of course this is a generalization. The age will vary from country to country based on upbringing, culture and religion for example.
And the same applies to men. Most men in their late 10's or early 20's don't really know how to satisfy a woman. Maybe they THINK they know but they don't, LOL!
We all learn in the course of the years.
I think most girls all over the world really acquire skills in their late 20's or early 30's. Of course this is a generalization. The age will vary from country to country based on upbringing, culture and religion for example.
And the same applies to men. Most men in their late 10's or early 20's don't really know how to satisfy a woman. Maybe they THINK they know but they don't, LOL!
We all learn in the course of the years.I would say that most gals in the US who are sexually active have a good repertoire by the time they are early 20's. I lost my virginity at 15 and most of my contemporaries did as well. My high school GFs and myself had marathon sessions and became quite skilled in the sack. We experimented with all different kinks, toys, fetishes, etc. And I don't think we were rare or alone in this. In college most of the gals I was with were far more skilled than most GoGo gals who have had kilometers of p*nis. Almost all had watched porn, knew how to give great hummers, and most did kegel exercises so their vag was tight and could milk your snake. Most were as good as all but the very best super experienced oily gals here.
When I got to Thailand I was quite disappointed at the lack of skill most GoGo and FL gals possessed. Many made up for it with fun and enthusiasm, but when it came to skill or being able to really get inside a man's head sexually, they were and most still are quite useless. Ask them to talk dirty; ask them what they want you to do to them; ask them what the last guys did to them; ask 'them any question about sex and most won't answer you. They clam up. Over 30 this does change and that is why that age is my wheelhouse.
Uncle Volodya
04-09-15, 12:52
First off, let me say that I have appreciated your comments, kind words and suggestions, just as I have appreciated the ones kindly offered by others. I had a specific objective on this trip, and it did involve racking up numbers. Thanks Bill. I must say I admire your stamina! I'm 20 years younger than you and I'm not sure I could keep up the pace you set. Kudos.
One thing that we didn't talk about is our own perceptions. I've noticed that with Pussy so readily available I have a tendency to get pickier and pickier about the girls I take over the course of the trip? And then when I come home I lament lost opportunities -- girls I didn't take then but probably would bend over backwards if they were in front of me now to get into my bed!! LOL.
Does the same thing happen to you?
WildBillLewis
04-09-15, 15:27
Thanks Bill. I must say I admire your stamina! I'm 20 years younger than you and I'm not sure I could keep up the pace you set. Kudos.
One thing that we didn't talk about is our own perceptions. I've noticed that with Pussy so readily available I have a tendency to get pickier and pickier about the girls I take over the course of the trip? And then when I come home I lament lost opportunities -- girls I didn't take then but probably would bend over backwards if they were in front of me now to get into my bed!! LOL.
Does the same thing happen to you?Interesting question. The answer is not straightforward. There are a number of reasons why men flock to Pattaya like swallows returning to Capistrano. Let me cite a few of them, and then let me take a stab at what I believe to be the key one.
First, there are many women in Pattaya who are willing to make themselves easily available to men at a price. There are probably more such women per square kilometer in Pattaya than anywhere else on earth. This eye-popping abundance far exceeds what many men would likely find in their home countries. That said, Pattaya is not the only place on earth with a humming sex industry. There are other places we could go, yet we flock to Pattaya.
Second, the price that women charge in Pattaya is lower than what many men would pay in their home countries. That said, there are other places in this world that men could go to find sex at similar prices and there are certainly places one could go (like parts of Africa) to get even cheaper sex, yet we flock to Pattaya.
So why do men from Europe, North America, Australia, Russia, the Middle East and India flock to Pattaya when they could flock elsewhere? I think the reason has to do with the fact that Pattaya offers us Asian women and, in particular, Asian women of a particular build (typically slim), a particular facial structure (typically with high cheek bones, sparkling limpid eyes and a world famous capacity to smile), and a cultural mindset that allows those women to live, relatively guilt-free, with the fact that they make their living by offering of sex to foreign men. I think that it is this last combination of factors that sets Thailand in general, and Pattaya in particular, apart.
If a man just wanted available and affordable women, there are many places a man could go, but Pattaya is the Mecca and the Medina if (like me and probably other members of this forum) you like Asian women and you enjoy finding yourself awash in a sea of beautiful, smiling, uninhibited Thai women. In Pattaya, if you find yourself on any given Soi and you walk past a beautiful woman, you don't have to stop and look back longingly. On some Soi, all you have to do is walk another 20 yards. On some, you only have to walk another 10 yards. In some places, like Walking Street, you don't have to walk, or even swivel your head. Stand still and the stunners will flow around you in both directions.
This leads to being jaded in the face of such abundance and the inverse of "buyer's regret" upon returning home.
Interestingly, in my case, I felt the inverse of "buyer's regret" upon returning home more strongly on my first month-long trip to Thailand (where I enjoyed the company of 10 new women and about 30 or so fucks in total) and my subsequent month-long trip to the Philippines (where I enjoyed the company of 5 new women and about 20 fucks in total). On those trips, I left with regrets and later felt the remorse you have described: what I have called the inverse of "buyer's regret".
On this trip, because I was explicitly aiming for high "new fuck" totals (and came close to achieving my targets: I had wanted in excess of 30 new women and hit 25), I don't feel the same sort of remorse because while I walked by a ton of beautiful women whose company I would have thoroughly enjoyed I'm sure, there's a practical limit to the number of women that a man of any vintage, 60 or otherwise, could actually enjoy. I don't have the inverse of "buyer's regret" because on this trip I really was near the practical limit of my capacity to add new notches.
One last observation: on this trip I figure that I spent about $1,000 Canadian less wisely than I should have. If I had spent it more wisely, I could have bucked up my notch count, but the real limiting factor was not money. The real limiting factor was a combination of the available hours in the day and, to my surprise, my diminishing appetite for yet more new pussy. I had a choice to make in my last four days in Pattaya. I could either ditch Nit, who had become my de facto girlfriend, and accelerate my drive for more notches, or I could abandon the drive for more notches and settle for Nit and a series of awesome fucks with her. I choose the latter. I didn't have to, but I did. In that sense, I got the best of both worlds and left with few regrets.
Kamsutra69
04-09-15, 15:36
What was the tab for your Galaxy Club experience? I have been tempted at times but understand it can be quite pricy. Not passing judgement as we all have different spending levels and you say it is your thing. Just curious.
SunLover.Yep, it got expensive, mate. Spent just under 6000 baht.
WildBillLewis
04-09-15, 17:35
I would say that most gals in the US who are sexually active have a good repertoire by the time they are early 20's. I lost my virginity at 15 and most of my contemporaries did as well. My high school GFs and myself had marathon sessions and became quite skilled in the sack. We experimented with all different kinks, toys, fetishes, etc. And I don't think we were rare or alone in this. In college most of the gals I was with were far more skilled than most GoGo gals who have had kilometers of p*nis. Almost all had watched porn, knew how to give great hummers, and most did kegel exercises so their vag was tight and could milk your snake. Most were as good as all but the very best super experienced oily gals here.
When I got to Thailand I was quite disappointed at the lack of skill most GoGo and FL gals possessed. Many made up for it with fun and enthusiasm, but when it came to skill or being able to really get inside a man's head sexually, they were and most still are quite useless. Ask them to talk dirty; ask them what they want you to do to them; ask them what the last guys did to them; ask 'them any question about sex and most won't answer you. They clam up. Over 30 this does change and that is why that age is my wheelhouse.As for your first paragraph, I can only say that I never had the pleasure of such experiences when I was younger. I envy you those experiences.
I have to agree with most of what you wrote in your second paragraph: the lack of skill on the part of the younger set was a bit of a disappointment, and you're quite right about them clamming up when you ask them what pleases them. You're also right that, with age comes more confidence, at which point some of them do open up. If they've been at it for a while, their language skills also tend to be better. If they have come late to the game (perhaps because their Thai husband has left them with kids to care for and no means of support) then they also bring a certain ballast from the school of hard knocks which can sometimes make for a more interesting person to talk with.
I think we falang owe a debt of gratitude to the many Thai men who do their best to make even the worst of us falang look good in comparison to them. While I'm at it, I'd also like to thank all those tall Thai guys who, instead of becoming tall, strong Thai guys who might have provided competition to us, chose instead to become ladyboys. Hoever they came to make that choice, it has had the effect of reducing the competition for us, leaving Thai girls to choose between us falang and deadbeat Thai heterosexual males who, in all likelihood, can be counted upon at some point to leave them in the lurch. As a general rule, we don't leave them in the lurch. From us, they know what they're getting: our most compelling feature is that we leave them with money in their purses, providing them with options that they would not otherwise have. That is the real reason why Thai women lock to Pattaya like swallows to Capistrano.
WildBillLewis
04-09-15, 18:33
Guys, I am planning to reach pattaya this week. Plan is to stay for 3 nights. I want to know is it possible to get girls to accompany us to coral island during the day. How and where should I look for such opportunities!! Or should I book thru some escort agency.I thought I'd share some thoughts since the memories are so recent and so painful.
First, if you are thinking that you will get a Thai girl to go with you to Coral Island and lie next to you, looking oh so smoking hot in her skimpy bikini, think again. You can get Thai girls to go to the beach, but be prepared for the fact that they will cover themselves up as much as possible to protect themselves from the sun. You know all those bathing suits that you see for sale in Pattaya, well they are sold to tourists. I personally bought one the day I checked into Chaba Hut which had a really nice pool. Paid 250 Baht against the original asking price of 400 Baht. I thought I had a bargain. I imagined (wrongly) that I would be able to persuade at least one of the girls I banged to join me by the pool. I eventually gave the bikini away to a girl who said she might use it. I will post a picture of my "girlfriend" on Coral Island, all wrapped up. You'll see what I mean.
Second, be sure to make the Coral Island thing a day trip only. At night, Coral Island is dead to the world. The only thing you can do at night on Coral Island is drink beer from the 7-11 and watch the lights of Pattaya twinkle in the distance, sending the message to you that you are not where you ought to be: you are 7. 5 km away from there and once the last ferry has left, your options for fixing your mistake are both limited and expensive. I know this from experience. I made that mistake.
Third, if you find yourself going to Coral Island without a girl, don't despair. There are sure to be girls on the ferry. On my second trip there, on Day 23, I met two such girls. I'll try to post pictures of them. Unfortunately they spoke almost no English so I didn't pursue them as hard as I should have! There are sure to be girls on the beach: there are Chinese and Japanese girls there by the boatload. I mean that literally: they arrive by the boatload. They love to take pictures of themselves and they love it even more when a white guy offers to take pictures of them. Then they invariably want a picture taken of you together with the. Opportunities abound (although the language barrier can be significant). Just be bold. Find a girl or a couple of girls and go strike up a conversation. Most of those conversations will lead nowhere, but you only need one for there to be a spark. There are sometimes even some girls in the water. I know this seems to contradict my first point, but it can happen. My first day there, while my "girlfriend" sat on the beach "shading" herself, I had one start playing with me and my member in the water, and when she learned that I was booked for two nights, she wanted to know if she could stay with me. She asked that question within five minutes of having first met me.
WildBillLewis
04-09-15, 19:12
Here are pictures of two girls I met on the ferry on the way to Ko Larn for a day trip on Day 23 of my Pattaya junket. I spotted them on the ferry and made eye contact. Then I saw them on the beach trying to take "selfies" of themselves together. I offered to take pictures for them. Then, without prompting on my part, they asked me if they could have pictures of them with me. Who was I to refuse? The language barrier seemed a little too great and there seemed to be plenty of other fish in the sea on that day (and there were, including a stunner who, at the last moment, was stolen away as a result of my own stupidity) so I didn't pursue them. In retrospect, though, as I look at these pictures now, I wish I'd taken more of a run at these two. Either one would have been fine, but the one in the black top I found to be especially appealing.
WildBillLewis
04-09-15, 19:47
I thought I'd share some thoughts since the memories are so recent and so painful.
First, if you are thinking that you will get a Thai girl to go with you to Coral Island and lie next to you, looking oh so smoking hot in her skimpy bikini, think again. You can get Thai girls to go to the beach, but be prepared for the fact that they will cover themselves up as much as possible to protect themselves from the sun. You know all those bathing suits that you see for sale in Pattaya, well they are sold to tourists. I personally bought one the day I checked into Chaba Hut which had a really nice pool. Paid 250 Baht against the original asking price of 400 Baht. I thought I had a bargain. I imagined (wrongly) that I would be able to persuade at least one of the girls I banged to join me by the pool. I eventually gave the bikini away to a girl who said she might use it. I will post a picture of my "girlfriend" on Coral Island, all wrapped up. You'll see what I mean.
Here is the picture I promised of my "girlfriend" Or from the first day of my ill-advised two day trip to Koh Larn on Day 10. I never came close to getting her in the water, nor did Iever get her into the bikini I had bought. In this particular case it was just as well. As you can see in another one of the attached pictures, to all outward appearances, Or was really quite lovely looking, but the day after I first met her, she went and disfigured herself by getting one of the worst tattoos I have ever seen. It covered nearly the whole of her midsection. It was dreadful. Two days after I first met her I bar fined her and, to my dismay, discovered the tattoo when she disrobed late that night. The tattoo was also painful to the touch and since I take no pleasure in the pain of others, I did not fuck her that night. The Koh Larn trip came a few days later, by which point things had gotten frosty between us. That first day on Koh Larn signaled the end of my time with Or. In retrospect, I should have ended it immediately upon discovering that she had disfigured herself. If I had done that, I would have saved myself at least 7,000 Baht. More to the point, she should have been honest and told me that she had done this to herself (and that sex might be painful for her) before agreeing to let me bar fine her for multiple days. I still resent her lack of honesty in that regard. Of this I am certain, there will be many men in her future who will quickly send her packing when she disrobes and they get their first look at her tattoo.
WildBillLewis
04-09-15, 23:13
I thought I'd offer a few thoughts on what to buy, what to bring, where to stay and how to get around Pattaya. I'll preface my observations that every traveler is different and what might work for me might not work at all well for others.
When It comes to getting around, I'm a walker so given a choice, I prefer to walk whenever I can. I find I see more and learn more that way. That said, when time is short, I take the Baht bus. They run up and down the length of Beach Road, Second Road and Soi Buakhao. They can be hailed at any point and will drop you at anywhere you want, all for 10 Baht. Pattaya abounds with good deals. Of them all, Baht buses may be the best. Then again, maybe the best deal in Pattaya is the street food: it is delicious, abundant and exceptionally cheap. Eat a little bit each time. Eat often. Venture outside your comfort zone. While in Pattaya, between the diet, the heat, and the exercise I got from walking (and from some horizontal exercise to boot), I went from 177 pounds on arrival (80 kilograms) to about 168 pounds (76 kilograms) on departure and I didn't feel weak. I felt fantastic.
When it comes to clothing, my central recommendation would be that you not bring very much with you to Pattaya. Most articles of clothing can be bought as needed. Some articles, like socks, are so cheap that you can afford to treat yourself to a new pair every day. One thing you should, however, bring with you is underwear: the stuff they have on sale in Pattaya is odd by Canadian standards and nobody wants to spend a month feeling not-quite-right down there. If you are a walker like me and spend a lot of time outside, another thing you should bring, in my opinion, are T-shirts made of one of the new quick-drying fabrics. In addition to being super-light and easy to pack, they are easy to rinse in the sink and they dry wrinkle-free. Bring only one set of shoes, but be sure to bring a relatively new pair and bring some shoe deoderizer because it is hard to find in Thailand and if those shoes ever get wet (and it has been known to rain in Thailand from time to time), you and everyone around you will appreciate it greatly. Bring condoms from home (and bring lots of them). Thai condoms may be tough, but they aren't particularly comfortable. Don't bring long pants: it is too hot here for them. If you're like me a do a fair amount of walking in the high heat, bring multiple tennis sweat bands for the head: they are hard to find in Pattaya and when you do find them, you'll pay a king's ransom. I am including in this post a picture of the bag that saw me through the whole of my 28 days in Thailand. Beside it is the stuff I chose to leave behind. Don't bring a lot.
Also, don't waste money booking hotels with a pool if you think it might help attract Thai girls: as I have observed elsewhere, they have zero interest in getting into a swimsuit and exposing themselves to the sun. When it comes to accommodation, don't book ahead. If you've never been to Pattaya and, in order to feel secure, believe that you absolutely must book something ahead of time, book ahead for only one night and then look for a Guest House: they abound, there are always rooms available, they are usually of good and sometimes of exceptional quality, they are cheaper than hotels and the price in cash is always cheaper than when booked on-line. I stayed in many, and the best of them all by a country mile was the Walking Street Guest House. It is modern. It is clean. It is quiet. It is cheap. Its location simply cannot be beaten: as the name implies, it is on Walking Street right across from Lucifer's. If you find a good Guest House and decide you'd like to stay for, say, a week, be sure to ask for a discount: you will be sure to get one.
One thing that took me a while to get used to was the fact that nightlife in Thailand doesn't really get going until 1 o'clock at the earliest. It really doesn't. Walk into Marines at midnight and it will be just you and the wait staff. Two hours later and it will be packed with women looking to have you take them home for the night. Things peak peak at 3 o'clock and in the best places the action is still going strong at 5 o'clock.
Time-wise, what does a great day in Pattaya look like. In my view, it looks like this:
Go to a disco at 2 am. Take a girl of your choice home by 4 am, and be confident that, in Pattaya unlike at home, there will be many from which to choose. Lay pipe until 6 am. Sleep until between noon and 2 pm. If you haven't done so earlier, send your new friend on her way by 3 pm, then head out for a bite to eat, replenish supplies, get a haircut, shave or massage, etc. At 7 pm, take a nap if it pleases you. By 9 pm, be at your place of choice for "short time" fun in the early evening: that might be any one of a thousand beer bars, or Soi Honey, or Soi 6, or Soi Yamato or it might be Beach Road. The choices available to a man in Pattaya for "short time" fun are, for all practical purposes, infinite. What do I mean by that? Well, you'd have to start very early in life, and be at it every day of your life, and live a very long life, to exhaust the opportunities available to a man in Pattaya for "short time" fun. God simply did not give us lives long enough to exhaust the possibilities that Pattaya presents to mortals like us. That's what I meant when I said that the choices available to a man in Pattaya for "short time" fun are, for all practical purposes, infinite. After you've had your "short time" fun, bid the girl goodbye and take a two hour nap. Then get up around 2 am and head to the disco. Repeat the process until exhausted. Oh yes, and enjoy the journey for too soon you will be home (like I am now).
We are nothing but customers. We are not competing with Thai boys for their hearts. Why can't guys see they are not a Thai girl's dream cum true. Buying girls is no different than buying a McD's hamburger.We must separate the truths from the myths LOL!
Dear WBL,
Thank you for taking the pain and patience to write down and explain on 'How to' in Pattaya.
Whilst you are right in mentioning that what works for you might not work for others, that said, basics are always the same.
I am not planning on visiting Pattaya soon or might not be able to alone (family issues), in the future, but just that it makes a informative read. And thanks for that.
Cheers,
FunkySexy.
I thought I'd offer a few thoughts on what to buy, what to bring, where to stay and how to get around Pattaya. I'll preface my observations that every traveler is different and what might work for me might not work at all well for others.
Then get up around 2 am and head to the disco. Repeat the process until exhausted. Oh yes, and enjoy the journey for too soon you will be home (like I am now).
WildBillLewis
04-10-15, 06:10
Get your head out of your REAR END, We are nothing but customers. We are not competing with Thai boys for their hearts.
Why can't guys see they are not a Thai girl's dream cum true. Buying girls is no different than buying a McD's hamburger.Let me start by saying that I know perfectly well that we are nothing but customers. I made this point (and others) in an earlier posting where I chronicled some of the lessons I'd learned during my 28 day visit to Pattaya. Here is what I wrote: "The first lesson (and it is easily forgotten because the girls can seem so lovely) is that while most of them will be happy to go with you, most of them will also be happier to leave with your money in their purse. Money is the only reason they make themselves available to go with you in the first place, be it in the bars or on the beach. It really doesn't matter if you are the reincarnation of Casanova himself, while they may enjoy their time spent with you, they plan to be with someone else the next day or the day after that. That is their business model. " I know we are customers.
As to your presumption about the anatomical positioning of my head and the need to change it, let me say that my observations came from listening very carefully to the stories told to me by women I met on this trip and another month-long trip that I took to Thailand two years ago. Two years ago I heard from Noi and Luckky, with whom I spent a great many days, their stories of having been abandoned by their deadbeat Thai husbands, left to care without support for the children they had sired. On my most recent trip, I heard Or tell me a similar story on Day 4. On Day 5, I spent a few hours by the pool listening to Pepsi tell me her story. On Day 6, I spent a few more hours listening to an articulate bar girl located near LK Metro tell me a similar story of abandonment. On day 15, I heard similar tales of woe first from the lady who runs the cash at the Den Bar, and then from the articulate and thoughftful Pung. Two days later, I heard Naja tell me her story of abandonment. On Day 18, Nit share with me some of her story. Again it was one of abandonment and the difficult choices that she had been forced into to make ends meet. I could go on, but I won't, except to say that if one takes the time to listen carefully, one can get a deeper appreciation of things.
I'll say two more things in response to your comment. First, it is difficult to listen if one's head is stuck in one's rear end as you have suggested mine is. Second, you may feel comfortable belittling these women to the point of equating them to hamburgers purchased from McDonald's, but I have never once had a conversation with a hamburger. Girls are not hamburgers. Paying them for time spent and services rendered is not the same as buying a hamburger. These girls, most of them, find themselves carrying heavy burdens. They deserve to be seen and to be treated as people tying to do the best they can in difficult circumstances. Respectfulness goes a long way in this world. Why not give it a try?
PrinceRaj2126
04-10-15, 10:07
Go to a disco at 2 am. Take a girl of your choice home by 4 am, and be confident that, in Pattaya unlike at home, there will be many from which to choose. Lay pipe until 6 am. Sleep until between noon and 2 pm. If you haven't done so earlier, send your new friend on her way by 3 pm, then head out for a bite to eat, replenish supplies, get a haircut, shave or massage, etc. At 7 pm, take a nap if it pleases you. By 9 pm, be at your place of choice for "short time" fun in the early evening: that might be any one of a thousand beer bars, or Soi Honey, or Soi 6, or Soi Yamato or it might be Beach Road. The choices available to a man in Pattaya for "short time" fun are, for all practical purposes, infinite. What do I mean by that? Well, you'd have to start very early in life, and be at it every day of your life, and live a very long life, to exhaust the opportunities available to a man in Pattaya for "short time" fun. God simply did not give us lives long enough to exhaust the possibilities that Pattaya presents to mortals like us. That's what I meant when I said that the choices available to a man in Pattaya for "short time" fun are, for all practical purposes, infinite. After you've had your "short time" fun, bid the girl goodbye and take a two hour nap. Then get up around 2 am and head to the disco. Repeat the process until exhausted. Oh yes, and enjoy the journey for too soon you will be home (like I am now).Wow, what a great explanation. All this can come only from experience, a salute to you Sir.
I have enjoyed and read all your posts of 28 days and particularly your summary was excellent. Thanks for being honest and so liberal to share your views and thoughts which might help others.
Cheers and have a great monger days in your life.
Feelz Good
04-10-15, 12:33
Look, we all know the game and the Thai Ladies know it better than we do. The bar girls come to Pattaya from up north or other places for Baht. Yes, they perform for money to support themselves, family, grandparents, etc. When family members get old or sick the government does nothing to help. Most of these girls carry a tough burden to survive without any education or boyfriend or husband support. I always try to show respect even if I land a starfish now and then. The way I look at it is we are all consenting adults, I am there to have a great time and they are there to make money and survive. They do me a favor and I do them a favor and support their cause whatever it is. So show some respect and you might just get some extra mileage and receive more attention than you bargained for. Treat these beautiful women like McD's hamburgers and I hope you get the shits!
Get your head out of your REAR END, We are nothing but customers. We are not competing with thai boys for their hearts.
Why can't guys see they are not a thai girls dream cum true. Buying girls is no different than buying a McD's hamburger.
Mr Enternational
04-10-15, 15:26
Get your head out of your REAR END, We are nothing but customers. We are not competing with thai boys for their hearts.
Why can't guys see they are not a thai girls dream cum true. Buying girls is no different than buying a McD's hamburger.And that is why "Money Number One" and "Private Dancer" should be required reading for any monger before entering Thailand.
Me and my wingman had a blast with our last taxi driver swapping stories on the way to the airport. The driver told us about one chick who got with an Australian dude. They got married and she went to stay with him in Australia for 10 years. Then they went back to Thailand and had a house built in the place she was from. The house was finished during the 12th year they were together. The day after the house was ready she told him to get the fuck out.
But foreigners are a Thai girl's dream come true as long as they have money in their pocket. Show up without money or run out of money if you really want to see what kind of dream you are and how much respect they have for you.
And that is why "Money Number One" and "Private Dancer" should be required reading for any monger before entering Thailand.
Me and my wingman had a blast with our last taxi driver swapping stories on the way to the airport. The driver told us about one chick who got with an Australian dude. They got married and she went to stay with him in Australia for 10 years. Then they went back to Thailand and had a house built in the place she was from. The house was finished during the 12th year they were together. The day after the house was ready she told him to get the fuck out.
But foreigners are a Thai girl's dream come true as long as they have money in their pocket. Show up without money or run out of money if you really want to see what kind of dream you are.That's why if you want a relationship here in Thailand, keep your standards, or keep to P4 P. Don't support a gal. Would you "build" a gal a house in back home and put it in her name? Probably not. You would both pay towards it. Dudes throw their ideals out the window because they stick it in a "pretty young thing" and in six seconds they are in love.
But foreigners are a Thai girl's dream come true as long as they have money in their pocket. Show up without money or run out of money if you really want to see what kind of dream you are and how much respect they have for you.Yes, that old adage is so true: If you want to get laid in Thailand, hire a hooker. Don't ever get married; don't even keep a girlfriend.
If you want a true friend and meaningful relationship, get a dog.
And that is why "Money Number One" and "Private Dancer" should be required reading for any monger before entering Thailand.
Me and my wingman had a blast with our last taxi driver swapping stories on the way to the airport. The driver told us about one chick who got with an Australian dude. They got married and she went to stay with him in Australia for 10 years. Then they went back to Thailand and had a house built in the place she was from. The house was finished during the 12th year they were together. The day after the house was ready she told him to get the fuck out.
But foreigners are a Thai girl's dream come true as long as they have money in their pocket. Show up without money or run out of money if you really want to see what kind of dream you are and how much respect they have for you.I read the book. You forget that even with all the info out there, there are still guys that think their girl's different.
When they get took, you have to listen to there sad stories or wait for them to go over the balcony.
... cut ... observations came from listening very carefully to the stories told to me by women I met on this trip and another month-long trip that I took to Thailand two years ago. Two years ago I heard from Noi and Luckky, with whom I spent a great many days, their stories of having been abandoned by their deadbeat Thai husbands, left to care without support for the children they had sired. On my most recent trip, I heard Or tell me a similar story on Day 4. On Day 5, I spent a few hours by the pool listening to Pepsi tell me her story. On Day 6, I spent a few more hours listening to an articulate bar girl located near LK Metro tell me a similar story of abandonment. On day 15, I heard similar tales of woe first from the lady who runs the cash at the Den Bar, and then from the articulate and thoughftful Pung. Two days later, I heard Naja tell me her story of abandonment. On Day 18, Nit share with me some of her story. Again it was one of abandonment ....cut...Wbl. Thank you for your insightful & detailed posts.
I too have heard so many times the above also, in fact, so many time I am beginning to wonder if this story is being delivered to us as part of the bargirls 101 training manual. LOL.
Mtg.
As for your first paragraph, I can only say that I never had the pleasure of such experiences when I was younger. I envy you those experiences.
I have to agree with most of what you wrote in your second paragraph: the lack of skill on the part of the younger set was a bit of a disappointment, and you're quite right about them clamming up when you ask them what pleases them. You're also right that, with age comes more confidence, at which point some of them do open up. If they've been at it for a while, their language skills also tend to be better. If they have come late to the game (perhaps because their Thai husband has left them with kids to care for and no means of support) then they also bring a certain ballast from the school of hard knocks which can sometimes make for a more interesting person to talk with.
I think we falang owe a debt of gratitude to the many Thai men who do their best to make even the worst of us falang look good in comparison to them. While I'm at it, I'd also like to thank all those tall Thai guys who, instead of becoming tall, strong Thai guys who might have provided competition to us, chose instead to become ladyboys. Hoever they came to make that choice, it has had the effect of reducing the competition for us, leaving Thai girls to choose between us falang and deadbeat Thai heterosexual males who, in all likelihood, can be counted upon at some point to leave them in the lurch. As a general rule, we don't leave them in the lurch. From us, they know what they're getting: our most compelling feature is that we leave them with money in their purses, providing them with options that they would not otherwise have. That is the real reason why Thai women lock to Pattaya like swallows to Capistrano.
As for your first paragraph, I can only say that I never had the pleasure of such experiences when I was younger. I envy you those experiences.
I have to agree with most of what you wrote in your second paragraph: the lack of skill on the part of the younger set was a bit of a disappointment, and you're quite right about them clamming up when you ask them what pleases them. You're also right that, with age comes more confidence, at which point some of them do open up. If they've been at it for a while, their language skills also tend to be better. If they have come late to the game (perhaps because their Thai husband has left them with kids to care for and no means of support) then they also bring a certain ballast from the school of hard knocks which can sometimes make for a more interesting person to talk with.
...leaving Thai girls to choose between us falang and deadbeat Thai heterosexual males who, in all likelihood, can be counted upon at some point to leave them in the lurch. As a general rule, we don't leave them in the lurch. From us, they know what they're getting: our most compelling feature is that we leave them with money in their purses, providing them with options that they would not otherwise have. That is the real reason why Thai women lock to Pattaya like swallows to Capistrano.And I second everything above as well. I had a 22 year old Thai au pair for two years (hands off) and got to know her and her Thai friends. They all had low opinions of Thai men and all wanted to met Americans while they were Au Pair. About half did and got married to one. I will also credit my au pair for fully activating my hard on for Thai woman. Her friends would met at my house and get ready to go out on a Saturday nights. Dressed to kill, in full club gear, fuck that was hot. When I made my first trip to Thailand, I was met by a friend of my former au pair in Bangkok. (I had met this girl, "Leep", when she was in the USA as an au pair for about six months. Didn't work out and she returned to Bangkok). My au pair told Leep to show me around and make sure I was OK first time. Leep was incredibly sweet, nice figure, OK face, had now a good job at an insurance company where her improved English skills were paying off.
I couldn't believe it when Leep gave me a cell phone with internet as well as a BTS Skytrain Rabbit card (preloaded fare) upon arrival. Leep thought it would be important to be able to call someone if I got in trouble, got lost or needed something. She took me around Bangkok on a Saturday when she was off. She told me that she had to get a dress for a wedding that Sunday. I told her I'd be OK go with her. That stunned her. No Thai guy would ever do anything like that. I was looking forward to seeing her try on some short skirts. During that day, one of the things I asked her was is she had boyfriend and what was going on with men in Thailand. She said she no boyfriend and that she had wanted to met a white guy when she was in the USA. Most Thai guys didn't like the fact that she made more money then they did and didn't need them to survive. She didn't get asked out much because she was now considered old (28). Face palm! She knew I was leaving to Pattaya and than Koh Samui, she probably figured what I was doing there. She kept asking why I was travelling alone. I deflected those questions because she had a link to my home life and I didn't want to deal with that. However, when she sent me a text later that week asking to join me for a weekend in Koh Samui, at that point, I was like "bring it on". And she did, and she drank more than she should have and I fucked her much harder than she had ever been and she really liked that. She had been in America several month and did not get a boyfriend. She was so grateful to get her first American dick. She told me not to discuss this with her friend and that she would not discuss with anyone either. The world was officially turned upside down. I could not believe the paradox of Thai girls, too successful, no boyfriend, too much in trouble, no boyfriend, too old, no boyfriend. Holy shit. No wonder they will fuck the hell out of farang, and get paid to do it.
And that is why "Money Number One" and "Private Dancer" should be required reading for any monger before entering Thailand.
Me and my wingman had a blast with our last taxi driver swapping stories on the way to the airport. The driver told us about one chick who got with an Australian dude. They got married and she went to stay with him in Australia for 10 years. Then they went back to Thailand and had a house built in the place she was from. The house was finished during the 12th year they were together. The day after the house was ready she told him to get the fuck out.
But foreigners are a Thai girl's dream come true as long as they have money in their pocket. Show up without money or run out of money if you really want to see what kind of dream you are and how much respect they have for you.Not all of them are cheaters and deceivers. So as long as I think a girl is OK she gets my respect. But of course I'm always watching my back and if they tell me sad stories I do not always believe them. I'm not gullible.
Show up without money or run out of money anywhere in the world to see how much respect or interest women have in you, LOL!
And I second everything above as well. I had a 22 year old Thai au pair for two years (hands off) and got to know her and her Thai friends. They all had low opinions of Thai men and all wanted to met Americans while they were Au Pair. About half did and got married to one. I will also credit my au pair for fully activating my hard on for Thai woman. Her friends would met at my house and get ready to go out on a Saturday nights. Dressed to kill, in full club gear, fuck that was hot. When I made my first trip to Thailand, I was met by a friend of my former au pair in Bangkok. (I had met this girl, "Leep", when she was in the USA as an au pair for about six months. Didn't work out and she returned to Bangkok). My au pair told Leep to show me around and make sure I was OK first time. Leep was incredibly sweet, nice figure, OK face, had now a good job at an insurance company where her improved English skills were paying off.
I couldn't believe it when Leep gave me a cell phone with internet as well as a BTS Skytrain Rabbit card (preloaded fare) upon arrival. Leep thought it would be important to be able to call someone if I got in trouble, got lost or needed something. She took me around Bangkok on a Saturday when she was off. She told me that she had to get a dress for a wedding that Sunday. I told her I'd be OK go with her. That stunned her..Achmmc,
I enjoyed reading your story. I go to Thailand every year. Although you are a newbie in Thailand. You will latter learn. All of these girls have the same story. 'Thai guys no good. I don't like Thai guy, etc" They all want to meet a white guy which is called the Buffalo. Or their personal ATM. These same Thai girls who say they hate Thai guys. The minute they are away from you they are with Thai guys. They always prefer Thai guys. We the Farang are just their ATMs. Don't believe the illusion. I know how sweet they are and their smile is out of this world. Believe me I know. That girl you met in Thailand was investing her time and money for train. Because she wants to get married to a foreigner so she can support her family. The minute you told her you were going to Pattaya was the minute she lost all respect for you. Just have fun. Don't take things to seriously their. Thais are some of the best actresses you will ever see in your life.
Not all of them are cheaters and deceivers. , LOL!It depends what you mean. Let's face it the majority of the ladies who end up in Pattaya are there for money. Word gets back to the remote areas of Issan that there is gold in them there bars. And.word gets out that the more you hussle the punters the quicker you get that house built, granny looked after and the buffalo treated.
Repeat reading of "Private Dancer" should be mandatory on the 'plane to Bangkok.
Remember. The best con men are the nicest.
I too have heard so many times the above also, in fact, so many time I am beginning to wonder if this story is being delivered to us as part of the bargirls 101 training manual. LOL.The sob stories could be true or embellished or total BS. The sick buffalo is another classic one. It does not matter to me as I just acknowledge them kindly and then change the subject. Their fishing exhibition is worth it if they can find the 1 in 100 farang sap who feels sorry for them.
SL.
WildBillLewis
04-11-15, 14:33
Wbl. Thank you for your insightful & detailed posts.
I too have heard so many times the above also, in fact, so many time I am beginning to wonder if this story is being delivered to us as part of the bargirls 101 training manual. LOL.
Mtg.Thanks MilesToGo. I learned a lot from writing my posts, lessons that will help me in future.
I really like your handle: MilesToGo. Let's hope it's MilesAndMilesAndMiles. When I am home here in a very sedate part of Canada, especially now that I'm 60 and think about what might lie ahead, there are days when it feels like only YardsToGo. That's why I relish my trips to Thailand.
On this most recent trip, I had originally planned to fly from Bangkok to Hanoi and the vacation down the coast of Vietnam, with stops in Ha Long Bay, Hue, Nha Trang, maybe the Nang and finally HCMC before heading over to Cambodia on my way back to Bangkok and then home. For the Vietnam portion of the journey, I had even lined up a 22 year old girl from HCMC who was going to meet me in Hanoi and accompany me on the journey southward.
A few weeks before I arrived in Bangkok, I decided to blow off a bought-and-paid-for flight to Hanoi in favour of a bus ride from the Bangkok airport to Pattaya and twenty-eight days of "throttle to the wall" fun. I wanted to pursue (and be pursued by) thousands of girls (some twenty, thirty and even forty years younger than me) who I knew would willingly make themselves available to me at little cost.
Pattaya is not for everyone. I know this from personal experience. On my first trip to Thailand at the age of 58, Pattaya so destabilized my internal moral gyroscope that I left after only three days and headed to Phuket. By the time I was 60, with two more "mile years" behind me, I was becoming acutely aware of my own mortality. While I hoped that there might be miles to go yet, I know there might also be only yards: one never knows when the Grim Reaper will reach out. So I was ready not just to dip my toe back into the waters of Pattaya, but to jump in with as much gusto as I could manage.
WildBillLewis
04-11-15, 15:17
Show up without money or run out of money anywhere in the world to see how much respect or interest women have in you, LOL!True about running out of money, but little surprises sometimes happen. On Day 23 of my own recent adventure, I'd blown through almost of the cash in my pockets and found myself in Insomnia at around 2 am, smoking what was supposed to be the night's last cigarette. Having more or less run out of money, I was in a corner, feeling dejected, watching a party of girls dance seductively for two Ukrainian guts who were literally throwing money around. As I went to leave, one of the girls latched onto me and started dancing in the most seductive way, pulling me to her, grinding herself against me and throwing in all sorts of wet kisses. This went on for a long time. We had exchanged saliva long before we had exchanged any words and the first words exchanged between us came when I asked her if she wanted to head home with me, to which she said yes. On her, to that point, I had spent nothing. It is hard to describe just how amazed I was at this turn of events. But that's Pattaya: it is constantly throwing you curve balls, and it had one more to throw me. Before heading back to my place, she and her friends wanted to dance for another hour. In my pocket, I didn't have enough money to cover even one more drink. I had plenty back at my hotel, just not enough in my pocket. By the time I returned from my hotel, my little vixen had made friends with a guy who did not find himself short of pocket change at a crucial moment. What a lesson learned! I won't make that mistake again.
Interestingly, not all girls are so unforgiving. On Day 19, four days prior to the events described above, I was fortunate enough to have fucked a masseuse in the morning (as a carry over from the night before) and a Beach Road girl in the early evening, but by late evening I had fumbled away most of my pocket money on beer bar girls to very little effect. At around midnight I was dejected and figured that I would go out and have a beer and a smoke and reflect on lessons learned. I counted out 460 Baht, figuring that it would be an early evening. I put the rest in the safe and headed out. I stopped at a bar with a hot Laotian with whom I had shared a few laughs previously. One thing led to another and soon we were kissing. I quickly burned through my 460 Baht, so I ran back to the room for another 1,000 Baht. It took another 90 minutes to blow through that. All the while, the kissing and dancing got hotter and hotter. "How much for the night?" I asked. "1,500 Baht", she replied. Deal. I asked for the check. It owed 1,200 Baht. I only had 1,000 Baht. "I'll cover the difference", she said, and she did. It was only 200 Baht, to be sure, but here's my point: I was surprised by the fact that she stepped up to the plate. Pattaya: it is constantly throwing you curve balls, but sometimes the ball curves in a way that allows you to hit it out of the park!
WildBillLewis
04-11-15, 15:36
She kept asking why I was travelling alone. I deflected those questions because she had a link to my home life and I didn't want to deal with that. However, when she sent me a text later that week asking to join me for a weekend in Koh Samui, at that point, I was like "bring it on". And she did, and she drank more than she should have and I fucked her much harder than she had ever been and she really liked that. She was so grateful to get her first American dick.What a great story, and what an amazing place Thailand can be for someone acclimatized to the male / female younger / older dynamics of life in North America. It is hard to tell if everything is upside down in Thailand. Maybe everything is finally right side up! What I can say is this: on its best day, Disneyland with its Magic Kingdom can offer nothing to rival the magical things that can happen to a man in Thailand. Like the billboards say, Amazing Thailand.
In my pocket, I didn't have enough money to cover even one more drink. I had plenty back at my hotel, just not enough in my pocket. By the time I returned from my hotel, my little vixen had made friends with a guy who did not find himself short of pocket change at a crucial moment. What a lesson learned!I had a similar encounter in Bangkok, Nana plaza many years ago, except luckily I had a better outcome. I was dancing and drinking with this girl for a good 2 hours. By the time, it was time to go to my hotel, I realized that I did not have enough cash with me, and they would not take my Amex card. My hotel was not too far, so I suggested that I go back to the hotel to get some more cash. She said no, and paid the rest of the bill with her own money. She then spent the night with me. The next morning, I gave her back her money back plus a very generous tip. She was elated and I was pleased as well.
Red Dogger
04-13-15, 02:21
The largest size condom you can buy in a Pattaya 7/11 barely fits me. (For all I know this makes me average for a white man) trouble is I like small Thai girls.
I ran into a beer bar, somewhere near Areca Lodge on the main baht bus route, (sorry I cannot locate it more precisely) that was full of remarkably young looking girls. I picked one, probably the second. 400 Baht bar fine, 1500 Baht long time. At my hotel she dodged check-in.
In bed she was polite, cooperative, pleasant but completely unenthusiastic. I found that entering her tiny little pussy was like trying to fuck a quarter inch hole drilled in a brick wall. Absolutely impossible, and if I persisted my erection collapsed.
So I set about seducing her as if she was a regular girl, and after a couple of hours she warmed up, and her pussy became wet and soft and yielding, and I slammed into it. This immediately caused her a great deal of pain. Every Thai girl I have sex with, my penis hurts them, and I enjoy their pain, but this was a lot more pain than I have seen before, and a lot more pain than I enjoy, so I finished as fast as I could.
The moment I got off her, she ran to the bathroom, locked herself in, and did not come out for an hour or so.
She then returned to bed, wrapped in a towel, which I promptly removed. The rest of the night she was sullen, hostile, and fought every sexual advance to the best of her limited strength. No more fun ensued. She left at dawn. I considered giving her a tip for her suffering, but what the hell, all the others put up with the pain cheerfully and came back for more. I pay girls more than I agreed when they please me, and seldom have I been less pleased.
I quickly burned through my 460 Baht, so I ran back to the room for another 1,000 Baht. It took another 90 minutes to blow through that. All the while, the kissing and dancing got hotter and hotter. "How much for the night?" I asked. "1,500 Baht", she replied. Deal. I asked for the check. It owed 1,200 Baht. I only had 1,000 Baht.I don't understand why would you put yourself in that position. You are limiting your possibilities by sticking too rigidly to your daily budget. That number IMO should only what you need to average per day, and not be a max limit you can't go over.
I always take double what I think I need when I go out, sometimes even more. Be it mongering or to dinner or whatever. The worst thing that can happen is you spend it (if you chose to), and all that means is you would have to cut back a little bit on the following days. I had days when I spent 8000 Baht on fun and food, and then days I only needed to spend 1500 Baht.
Eric Swiss
04-13-15, 05:19
I thoroughly enjoyed reading WildBillLewis' reports. Even though I am no stranger to the Pattaya scene, I learnt quite a lot. Main lessons: go out late (like 2 am), and avoid go-go bars. I sort of knew it already in the back of my mind, but his series encouraged me to actually do it.
I went to bed at 10 am fully clothed with my boots on, and magically woke up (without alarm) at 1:45 am, fully refreshed. I took the moto-taxi and hit Walking Street. First I had a beer at the Hot Tuna bar (cost: 120 Baht), where thankfully Lam Morrisson wasn't playing, because I find him too full of himself.
Afterwards I stumbled onto Walking Street, and I'm not sure if I had a plan in my head. But, inspired by WildBillLewis, I ogled the beauties passing me by. There was one who walked in the opposite direction of mine, and I did a double take, and so did she, so we started talking. She asked 1500 Baht for short time, to which I agreed. Her name was Jenny. She was 21 years old, 1 m58 and 41 kilos. I would say a solid 8, the face and the body were great. I sort of assumed she was on her way to a disco to pick up a guy like me, and she figured I was probably at least as good looking as the average guy she might expect to find there, so why not save herself the trouble?
At some point I asked her: "Are you. " and before I could finish my sentence, she noticed my embarrassment and helpfully proffered: "I'm Lady!" I managed to confirm the statement fully later on. There was nothing LBoy-ish about her physique, but her sexual aggressiveness was a known marker that gave me a small shadow of doubt. And in any case I almost always ask the question because it doesn't cost anything.
I took her to the short-time hotel Oasis on Soi Happy. It is 500 baht, but it is very nice. She proposed one she knew for 390, but I don't like to risk grungyness. She commented 500 Baht was expensive.
The small talk didn't go very far. I was only interested in one thing and couldn't be bothered going through the usual inane chit-chat. After the shower she started wanking me off. Her technique was not great, but when I started fingering her clit and pussy I got really hard, because she seemed to be quite receptive down there.
I got a fairly short covered blow job, and then she started banging me cowgirl style. She didn't do Asian cowgirl, to my displeasure. Then I got her to do reverse cowgirl, and I took control of the situation and started flipping her around, going through every position in the book, and then going through them over and over again. I did to her whatever I wanted to keep my erection strong and bring myself closer to orgasm. She really liked to be pounded doggy-style. After a while getting pounded, she started to get really wet down there, and Kegel-grippy at the same time. Her cun* felt really hot around my c0 ck from all the increased blood flow.
I must have fucked her for a good 40 minutes straight. Huge bonus point for her: she never complained, never hurried me, never tired out. At one point her phone rang, she said she wasn't going to pick it up, but I told her to turn off the sound because I couldn't concentrate even knowing there was a chance of it ringing again. She obediently did so. In the end I came missionary style with a porn video of Tera Patrick POV Virtual Sex in my mind (Jenny's tits were smaller than Tera's, but I was not in a condition to let that pull me back from the brink.) She was exhausted, and I could barely move.
I asked her if she had change from 2000 Baht, and she said she had 400 Baht, so I accepted, figuring that she had earnt the 100 Baht tip.
To summarize the chemistry between us: there was good connection on the street, zero connection in the chit-chat phase, and excellent connection in the pussy-pounding phase. She must have been ovulating, either that or she is hornier than the average working girl.
I went back to sleep at my hotel early at 4 am, having spent only 120+500+1500+100=2220 Baht. It's good so I was not completely wasted the next morning, but after fucking hard for 40 minutes with an 8 less than half my age who let me use her every which way, I felt sexually satisfied.
Main lesson: going out late (e. G. 2 am) and avoiding go-go bars is a well validated theory. Thank you WildBillLewis!
Eric Swiss
04-13-15, 05:26
Yes, that old adage is so true: If you want to get laid in Thailand, hire a hooker. Don't ever get married; don't even keep a girlfriend.
If you want a true friend and meaningful relationship, get a dog.It's the free ones that are the most expensive. Borderline unaffordable.
WildBillLewis
04-13-15, 06:32
I thoroughly enjoyed reading WildBillLewis' reports. Even though I am no stranger to the Pattaya scene, I learnt quite a lot. Main lessons: go out late (like 2 am), and avoid go-go bars. I sort of knew it already in the back of my mind, but his series encouraged me to actually do it.
I went to bed at 10 am fully clothed with my boots on, and magically woke up (without alarm) at 1:45 am, fully refreshed. I took the moto-taxi and hit Walking Street. First I had a beer at the Hot Tuna bar (cost: 120 Baht), where thankfully Lam Morrisson wasn't playing, because I find him too full of himself.
Afterwards I stumbled onto Walking Street, and I'm not sure if I had a plan in my head. But, inspired by WildBillLewis, I ogled the beauties passing me by. There was one who walked in the opposite direction of mine, and I did a double take, and so did she, so we started talking. She asked 1500 Baht for short time, to which I agreed. Her name was Jenny. She was 21 years old, 1 m58 and 41 kilos. I would say a solid 8, the face and the body were great. I sort of assumed she was on her way to a disco to pick up a guy like me, and she figured I was probably at least as good looking as the average guy she might expect to find there, so why not save herself the trouble?
At some point I asked her: "Are you. " and before I could finish my sentence, she noticed my embarrassment and helpfully proffered: "I'm Lady!" I managed to confirm the statement fully later on. There was nothing LBoy-ish about her physique, but her sexual aggressiveness was a known marker that gave me a small shadow of doubt. And in any case I almost always ask the question because it doesn't cost anything.
I took her to the short-time hotel Oasis on Soi Happy. It is 500 baht, but it is very nice. She proposed one she knew for 390, but I don't like to risk grungyness. She commented 500 Baht was expensive.
The small talk didn't go very far. I was only interested in one thing and couldn't be bothered going through the usual inane chit-chat. After the shower she started wanking me off. Her technique was not great, but when I started fingering her clit and pussy I got really hard, because she seemed to be quite receptive down there.
I got a fairly short covered blow job, and then she started banging me cowgirl style. She didn't do Asian cowgirl, to my displeasure. Then I got her to do reverse cowgirl, and I took control of the situation and started flipping her around, going through every position in the book, and then going through them over and over again. I did to her whatever I wanted to keep my erection strong and bring myself closer to orgasm. She really liked to be pounded doggy-style. After a while getting pounded, she started to get really wet down there, and Kegel-grippy at the same time. Her cun* felt really hot around my c0 ck from all the increased blood flow.
I must have fucked her for a good 40 minutes straight. Huge bonus point for her: she never complained, never hurried me, never tired out. At one point her phone rang, she said she wasn't going to pick it up, but I told her to turn off the sound because I couldn't concentrate even knowing there was a chance of it ringing again. She obediently did so. In the end I came missionary style with a porn video of Tera Patrick POV Virtual Sex in my mind (Jenny's tits were smaller than Tera's, but I was not in a condition to let that pull me back from the brink.) She was exhausted, and I could barely move.
I asked her if she had change from 2000 Baht, and she said she had 400 Baht, so I accepted, figuring that she had earnt the 100 Baht tip.
To summarize the chemistry between us: there was good connection on the street, zero connection in the chit-chat phase, and excellent connection in the pussy-pounding phase. She must have been ovulating, either that or she is hornier than the average working girl.
I went back to sleep at my hotel early at 4 am, having spent only 120+500+1500+100=2220 Baht. It's good so I was not completely wasted the next morning, but after fucking hard for 40 minutes with an 8 less than half my age who let me use her every which way, I felt sexually satisfied.
Main lesson: going out late (e. G. 2 am) and avoiding go-go bars is a well validated theory. Thank you WildBillLewis!Awesome experience, one to which I can really relate. You're right about Lam Morrison: too full of himself. Very wise to ask, and ask early, about the ladyboy thing: there were a couple of night when I should has asked sooner than I did. You were fortunate to get one who enjoyed 40 minutes of fucking: not all of them do (and you can't know which is which until you're on the pitch). Kudos to you for being firm about the cell phone: what an annoyance. A nod to her as well for respecting your wishes. Isn't it great when they get really wet? Since you've got the ability to fuck for 40 minutes, then for something really special, try this if you can get another willing partner like her: turn off the air conditioning and go at it. In 10 minutes or so, you'll bodies will be slipping and sliding against each other from the sweat. It is one of my favorite sensations. Very nicely done!
WildBillLewis
04-13-15, 06:46
I don't understand why would you put yourself in that position. You are limiting your possibilities by sticking too rigidly to your daily budget. That number IMO should only what you need to average per day, and not be a max limit you can't go over.
I always take double what I think I need when I go out, sometimes even more. Be it mongering or to dinner or whatever. The worst thing that can happen is you spend it (if you chose to), and all that means is you would have to cut back a little bit on the following days. I had days when I spent 8000 Baht on fun and food, and then days I only needed to spend 1500 Baht.Live and learn I suppose.
When I was in Thailand two years ago, I was surprised upon my return to find that I'd spent over $8,000 Canadian as compared with my budget of $6,000. I'm retired and have some money set aside to support my follies for another decade. But not if I overspend my budget by $2,000 Canadian too often.
So on this trip I experimented with a self-imposed daily allowed. For the most part, the system worked well, but on the two occasions I described, I ran short of pocket money. In the first case, with my Laotian friend, this wasn't a problem and the result, once I got back to my room and had access to my money, was that I spent beyond my daily allowance. No problem: on other days I spent less. In the end, I ended up spending just $200 Canadian more than I had budgeted for the trip. The one time I got caught out was with my Insomnia friend four days later on Day 23 or so. From that I learned that the Gods won't always smile on my as they had done with my Laotian friend, so from that point on I adopted something a little more like the system you prefer. It didn't make much difference over the next few days, but your recommended approach will serve me well on my next trip. All that having been said, I remain glad of the discipline that came from keeping a close watch over my spending.
Gin And Tonic
04-13-15, 07:38
Live and learn I suppose.
When I was in Thailand two years ago, I was surprised upon my return to find that I'd spent over $8,000 Canadian as compared with my budget of $6,000. I'm retired and have some money set aside to support my follies for another decade. But not if I overspend my budget by $2,000 Canadian too often.
So on this trip I experimented with a self-imposed daily allowed. For the most part, the system worked well, but on the two occasions I described, I ran short of pocket money. In the first case, with my Laotian friend, this wasn't a problem and the result, once I got back to my room and had access to my money, was that I spent beyond my daily allowance. No problem: on other days I spent less. In the end, I ended up spending just $200 Canadian more than I had budgeted for the trip. The one time I got caught out was with my Insomnia friend four days later on Day 23 or so. From that I learned that the Gods won't always smile on my as they had done with my Laotian friend, so from that point on I adopted something a little more like the system you prefer. It didn't make much difference over the next few days, but your recommended approach will serve me well on my next trip. All that having been said, I remain glad of the discipline that came from keeping a close watch over my spending.With the way the Harpo $ is preforming against the Baht it is getting rougher to get by on a Canadian pension here.
Eric Swiss
04-13-15, 08:18
Awesome experience, one to which I can really relate. You're right about Lam Morrison: too full of himself. Very wise to ask, and ask early, about the ladyboy thing: there were a couple of night when I should has asked sooner than I did. You were fortunate to get one who enjoyed 40 minutes of fucking: not all of them do (and you can't know which is which until you're on the pitch). Kudos to you for being firm about the cell phone: what an annoyance. A nod to her as well for respecting your wishes. Isn't it great when they get really wet? Since you've got the ability to fuck for 40 minutes, then for something really special, try this if you can get another willing partner like her: turn off the air conditioning and go at it. In 10 minutes or so, you'll bodies will be slipping and sliding against each other from the sweat. It is one of my favorite sensations. Very nicely done!I am sure you can relate. Given that I'd already had 2 orgasms and 2 bottle of wines that day, I had no merit in being able to forestall premature ejaculation. But I do agree that I was fortunate to get a chick who also enjoyed 40 minutes of fucking, as many of them do not. About the sweat trick, it is an exciting prospect, but given the well-documented penchant of Thai ladies for cleanliness, it is one that I have never attempted yet. Good to know there's always another level to shoot for in this game!
Eric Swiss
04-13-15, 08:49
The largest size condom you can buy in a Pattaya 7/11 barely fits me. (For all I know this makes me average for a white man) trouble is I like small Thai girls.I can buy in a Pattaya 7/11 the same Durex Fetherlite I would have bought in the West. I am confident that its size is benchmarked to the Occidental market, meaning that it should fit very well for people who are in the White man average, as you claim to be.
The largest size condom you can buy in a Pattaya 7/11 barely fits me. (For all I know this makes me average for a white man) trouble is I like small Thai girls.
I ran into a beer bar, somewhere near Areca Lodge on the main baht bus route, (sorry I cannot locate it more precisely) that was full of remarkably young looking girls. I picked one, probably the second youngest looking. 400 Baht bar fine, 1500 Baht long time. At my hotel she dodged check-in, suggesting that she was quite young.
In bed she was polite, cooperative, pleasant but completely unenthusiastic. I found that entering her tiny little pussy was like trying to fuck a quarter inch hole drilled in a brick wall. Absolutely impossible, and if I persisted my erection collapsed.
So I set about seducing her as if she was a regular girl, and after a couple of hours she warmed up, and her pussy became wet and soft and yielding, and I slammed into it. This immediately caused her a great deal of pain. Every Thai girl I have sex with, my penis hurts them, and I enjoy their pain, but this was a lot more pain than I have seen before, and a lot more pain than I enjoy, so I finished as fast as I could.
The moment I got off her, she ran to the bathroom, locked herself in, and did not come out for an hour or so.
She then returned to bed, wrapped in a towel, which I promptly removed. The rest of the night she was sullen, hostile, and fought every sexual advance to the best of her limited strength. No more fun ensued. She left at dawn. I considered giving her a tip for her suffering, but what the hell, all the others put up with the pain cheerfully and came back for more. I pay girls more than I agreed when they please me, and seldom have I been less pleased.You very bad man! They don't like vagina pain-let them go.
Lots of big girls with big vaginas-take them!
Eric Swiss
04-13-15, 10:02
Just by the way, Songkran is starting today in Pattaya. My car has already been splashed, so people are getting serious. Be prepared, this is not a test. Word from those who have experienced it before is that it gets completely crazy.
WildBillLewis
04-13-15, 13:57
With the way the Harpo $ is preforming against the Baht it is getting rougher to get by on a Canadian pension here.Good one! Between early January when I booked my flight and early March when I arrived, the "Harpo $" had lost 11% against the Baht, 14% against the Chinese Yuan and 16% against the Philippine Peso! Right now it's worth 79 cents on the US dollars, but there are plenty of forecasters who are telling folks to buckle up for a ride down to 70 cents in the next year. As recently as 2013 (when I was last in Thailand), the dollar was a par or thereabouts. Currency movements are not Newtonian: what goes down may or may not come back up.
This is another reason why I set a budget for each trip, stick to it (within reason), and then, after each trip, analyze my spending in search areas where I could have spent my funds more wisely. I had an earlier post to that effect where I broke my spending down into four categories: travel, accommodation, the odds and sods of daily living and the money I spent chasing women. Overall, I spent $200 more than the $6,000 I had planned to spend. I spent $100 more on travel than planned, offset by $200 less on each of accommodation and odds and sods. On the chasing of women I had planned to spend $3,000 but ended up spending $3,500. When I put that $3,500 under a microscope, I was surprised to learn that in payments made directly to girls (and I had the pleasure of experiencing 25 different girls on that trip), I spent less than $1,000 including, where applicable, their bar fines. This really surprised me because it meant that I spent $2,500 on costs that were ancillary to my main pursuit. On reflection, I felt that about $1,500 of that $2,500 was well spent on social lubricants like drinks and sundry other things for me and the women I was chasing, but another $1,000 was, to my mind, wasted on activities that really didn't contribute in any way to getting me laid. In Canadian dollars, that equates to almost $38 Canadian, or just over 900 Baht, wasted on average each day of my 28 day trip.
How can anyone waste 900 Baht in a day? It's too easy. In the early evening, go to a beer bar and burn off a couple of hours playing pool: buy a few beers for yourself and of course some for the ladies. Later in the evening, head to a Go to a Go Go: buy a drink for yourself and one or two for a lady. Kiss 900 Baht goodbye. All good fun, of course, and I understand that on any given vacation, some of a person's spending is going to be misdirected because you can't know beforehand whether the money you're spending at that beer bar will end up paying off or not. That said, by putting my own spending under a microscope, on future mongering trips I hope to be able to spend my budget in ways that contribute to my real purpose which is, after all, to get laid. And maybe, by sharing that information, it will help a few others out there do the same.
SirWilliam4
04-13-15, 16:30
Every Thai girl I have sex with, my penis hurts them, and I enjoy their pain, Pain?? You enjoy giving these girls pain?? Really??
What are you thinking?
SW4.
Uncle Volodya
04-14-15, 08:26
Main lesson: going out late (e. G. 2 am) and avoiding go-go bars is a well validated theory. Thank you WildBillLewis!Good job bro!
There are just so many options available in Patts that it is insane: BR, Discos, Random girls on WS. You can have a great time without even visiting a gogo. Though I like to do so on occasion.
The next opportunity to explore are shop girls and waitresses. I've had some nice interactions with them and have often toyed with the idea of asking them out. But I've always backed off because I've been in town for short periods and did not want to waste time on what was not a sure thing.
But I will be in Patts for a month in August and plan to give this option a shot too. Can't wait for the summer!
Stay horny my friends!
Uncle-V.
Uncle Volodya
04-14-15, 08:28
Pain?? You enjoy giving these girls pain?? Really??
What are you thinking?
SW4.Sadly there appear to be some sickos lurking on the board. That's why I don' share girl's contact info or post pics that don't have faces obscured.
WildBillLewis
04-14-15, 08:50
Good job bro!
The next opportunity to explore are shop girls and waitresses. I've had some nice interactions with them and have often toyed with the idea of asking them out. But I've always backed off because I've been in town for short periods and did not want to waste time on what was not a sure thing.
Stay horny my friends!
Uncle-V.On the topic of shop girls, one day near the end of my recent 28 day junket, I found myself wandering around the Big see shopping mall on Second Road. I did a double-take when I spoted a Caucasian women "manning" a both that sold nail care products from Israel. She was a cute little 20 year old Israeli girl, about 5'2", just over 100 pounds, wonderfully trim and fit. She'd just finished a stint of National Service, having served in the army and participated in two "actions". She spoke excellent English and was coming to grips with Thai. She was about a month into a six month contract in Thailand. I spoke with her for well over twenty minutes and got the sense that she would have been more than willing to go out with me despite our age difference. I was equally sure that she would never sleep with me, again due to the age difference. Since the whole purpose of the trip was to sleep with as many Asian women as I could realistically fit into a 28 day trip, with time running short, I wasn't about to take a flyer on an engaging young Israeli. Like you, Uncle V, I did not want to waste time on what was not a sure thing.
Uncle Volodya
04-14-15, 11:52
On the topic of shop girls, one day near the end of my recent 28 day junket, I found myself wandering around the Big see shopping mall on Second Road. I did a double-take when I spoted a Caucasian women "manning" a both that sold nail care products from Israel. She was a cute little 20 year old Israeli girl, about 5'2", just over 100 pounds, wonderfully trim and fit. She'd just finished a stint of National Service, having served in the army and participated in two "actions". She spoke excellent English and was coming to grips with Thai. She was about a month into a six month contract in Thailand. I spoke with her for well over twenty minutes and got the sense that she would have been more than willing to go out with me despite our age difference. I was equally sure that she would never sleep with me, again due to the age difference. Since the whole purpose of the trip was to sleep with as many Asian women as I could realistically fit into a 28 day trip, with time running short, I wasn't about to take a flyer on an engaging young Israeli. Like you, Uncle V, I did not want to waste time on what was not a sure thing.Yes I think it's best to avoid farang girls in these cases. I think that it shouldn't' be a big problem to get Thai girls in the sack. Just probably takes some time and effort. Anyhow I think I will give it a shot. There was a very pretty, slim, shop girl working the souvenir shops at Mike's Shopping mall. We flirted pretty heavily and I was on the verge of asking her out, but bailed on it as it was my 2nd to last night in town and I wanted to opt for a sure thing instead.
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The next opportunity to explore are shop girls and waitresses. I've had some nice interactions with them and have often toyed with the idea of asking them out. But I've always backed off because I've been in town for short periods and did not want to waste time on what was not a sure thing.
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Uncle-V.I had to swallow my pride in this trip -.
Despite many grips under my belt and the wisdom of others experience here, I fell down. I had started talking to my hotel receptionist previous trip and had shared some time talking & even gone out once for a quick bite. This turned into her installing LINE on my phone and we chatted after I finished my trip. Turn calender ahead 6 months and she is in my room by the first morning. Over about a 10 day period, she never asked for money but I took care of all our expenses (gifts,eat, drink, shopping, massages, island trip, weekend in bkk etc.). I was getting too comfortable and I have her access to my wallet when we went out. I noticed she started tipping far more than what she usually left after check bin, so I asked what going on? Oh she says. Old friend of work, then again at a massage. She tips 100 on a 200 massage. Wtf! Turns out she was jealous for me making small talk with my regular massage girl instead of paying attention to get haha. At this point, she has this long face, turned cold fish. I wanted to go back to room shower & nap. Convinced her to come join me, get out of the heat. No shower fun, towel on tighter than I have seen on her. Confront her what's up? She's upset because I have not given her money directly up till now. I say what you need money now (I was going to pay her end of trip). She surprised by telling me I have only spent 10 k on her to date & any bar lady would be far richer at this point. I suddenly realized this is no OG!! I had to control the situation & get her out of room, my life. Had only about 3 k in my wallet at this point (never give away your safety box access). This is what I could send her away with.
The further consequence of staying together - she was fishing for a new galaxy note 15-20k? Which I had so far managed to elude by not saying no, but by delay ...
Full freedom now, she would still call / LINE me. Wonderful call display. Last half of my trip, all my usual pick up places, some repeat from last trip. She would turn up one last time at my hotel as she knew my departure, I would not give her anything. Nothing makes up the time I lost to her for this trip.
Mtg.
I had to swallow my pride in this trip -.
Despite many grips under my belt and the wisdom of others experience here, I fell down. I had started talking to my hotel receptionist previous trip and had shared some time talking & even gone out once for a quick bite. This turned into her installing LINE on my phone and we chatted after I finished my trip. Turn calender ahead 6 months and she is in my room by the first morning. Over about a 10 day period, she never asked for money but I took care of all our expenses (gifts,eat, drink, shopping, massages, island trip, weekend in bkk etc.). I was getting too comfortable and I have her access to my wallet when we went out. I noticed she started tipping far more than what she usually left after check bin, so I asked what going on? Oh she says. Old friend of work, then again at a massage. She tips 100 on a 200 massage. Wtf! Turns out she was jealous for me making small talk with my regular massage girl instead of paying attention to get haha. At this point, she has this long face, turned cold fish. I wanted to go back to room shower & nap. Convinced her to come join me, get out of the heat. No shower fun, towel on tighter than I have seen on her. Confront her what's up? She's upset because I have not given her money directly up till now. I say what you need money now (I was going to pay her end of trip). She surprised by telling me I have only spent 10 k on her to date & any bar lady would be far richer at this point. I suddenly realized this is no OG!! I had to control the situation & get her out of room, my life. Had only about 3 k in my wallet at this point (never give away your safety box access). This is what I could send her away with..You had to pay her. You said. You paid "gifts, eat, drink, shopping, massages, island trip, weekend in bkk etc".
What does it matter?
That has nothing to do with matter that she sleep with you.
Uncle Volodya
04-14-15, 14:45
. Nothing makes up the time I lost to her for this trip.
Mtg.Thanks for the cautionary tale!
But I think you could have managed the situation beter by keeping some distance and setting some clear boundaries. I mean giving her access to your wallet and phone? A definite no no.
I'm not looking for a long term relationship with these shop girls. Just some fun and somethign different form BR, Discos, etc.
And then I'll move on to the next one.
That said these girls can get clingy and it can be difficult to get rid of them. I know.
Red Dogger
04-14-15, 16:31
You very bad man! They don't like vagina pain-let them go.
Lots of big girls with big vaginas-take them!They can go any time. But if they go before they pleasure me, I will not pay them, and if they go after they pleasure me, but before the agreed long time, I only pay them short time.
The girl who was hurt a lot, eventually chose to perform long time as agreed and I paid her as agreed. Though after she was hurt she performed as badly as she could.
There seems to be a relationship between pussy size, overall size, and boob size. Bigger boobs, less pain, and while I like small girls, and very young looking girls, I also like big boobs.
My ideal boob size is big enough to fill my hand with some overflow, and girls with boobs like suffer only minor pain, even if quite small and youthful.
El Frances
04-14-15, 17:58
I had to swallow my pride in this trip -.
Despite many grips under my belt and the wisdom of others experience here, I fell down. I had started talking to my hotel receptionist previous trip and had shared some time talking & even gone out once for a quick bite. This turned into her installing LINE on my phone and we chatted after I finished my trip. Turn calender ahead 6 months and she is in my room by the first morning. Over about a 10 day period, she never asked for money but I took care of all our expenses (gifts,eat, drink, shopping, massages, island trip, weekend in bkk etc.). I was getting too comfortable and I have her access to my wallet when we went out. I noticed she started tipping far more than what she usually left after check bin, so I asked what going on? Oh she says. Old friend of work, then again at a massage. She tips 100 on a 200 massage. Wtf! Turns out she was jealous for me making small talk with my regular massage girl instead of paying attention to get haha. At this point, she has this long face, turned cold fish. I wanted to go back to room shower & nap. Convinced her to come join me, get out of the heat. No shower fun, towel on tighter than I have seen on her. Confront her what's up? She's upset because I have not given her money directly up till now. I say what you need money now (I was going to pay her end of trip). She surprised by telling me I have only spent 10 k on her to date & any bar lady would be far richer at this point. I suddenly realized this is no OG!! I had to control the situation & get her out of room, my life. Had only about 3 k in my wallet at this point (never give away your safety box access). This is what I could send her away with.
The further consequence of staying together - she was fishing for a new galaxy note 15-20k? Which I had so far managed to elude by not saying no, but by delay ...
Full freedom now, she would still call / LINE me. Wonderful call display. Last half of my trip, all my usual pick up places, some repeat from last trip. She would turn up one last time at my hotel as she knew my departure, I would not give her anything. Nothing makes up the time I lost to her for this trip.
Mtg.That's the way it is in Thailand. If you have a GF, you must give her money. Nothing scandalous or surprising about that. No reason to get upset about it. Don't interpret what happens in Thailand by comparing with the way it should be in your country.
That's the way it is in Thailand. If you have a GF, you must give her money. Nothing scandalous or surprising about that. No reason to get upset about it. Don't interpret what happens in Thailand by comparing with the way it should be in your country.Agreed.
Many people go astray by trying to go about their business in Thailand by western standards and culture.
They all expect money even if they don't say.
They are never that in to you where money doesn't matter in the long term.
Get the business part out of the way up front.
Giving a girl access to wallet or phone is a big no no.
On the topic of shop girls, one day near the end of my recent 28 day junket, I found myself wandering around the Big see shopping mall on Second Road. I did a double-take when I spoted a Caucasian women "manning" a both that sold nail care products from Israel. She was a cute little 20 year old Israeli girl, about 5'2", just over 100 pounds, wonderfully trim and fit. She'd just finished a stint of National Service, having served in the army and participated in two "actions". She spoke excellent English and was coming to grips with Thai. She was about a month into a six month contract in Thailand. I spoke with her for well over twenty minutes and got the sense that she would have been more than willing to go out with me despite our age difference. I was equally sure that she would never sleep with me, again due to the age difference. Since the whole purpose of the trip was to sleep with as many Asian women as I could realistically fit into a 28 day trip, with time running short, I wasn't about to take a flyer on an engaging young Israeli. Like you, Uncle V, I did not want to waste time on what was not a sure thing.After a while we start to think these beautiful young ladies find us so irresistible because of our big bulge in our pants. We want to believe it is the big bulge between our legs but it really is the wallet bulge. These Israeli girls use their sexy charm to sell their over priced products made from the Dead Sea minerals and they will give you their phone numbers too! These products have a magical healing effect on their bank accounts with fat commissions! How do I know this? I have some nice Dead Sea lotion and a phone number!
Eric Swiss
04-15-15, 04:05
As Songkran approaches the atmosphere in Pattaya is more up. I went to a couple of go-go bars, in one of them bought lady drink for a dancer. I asked what the barfine was and she said 1500 Baht. I just walked out.
Then I ended up at Insomnia. Went around, chatted with some girl, but it wasn't going anywhere so I just moved on. The place is huge and packed with hotties. I sipped my beer at a table near the sea for a while. At my next excursion around the night club, I bump into the same girl completely by chance. I'd forgotten all about her. But this time for some reason we hit it off. Her English was pretty good. She asked me to buy her a glass of red wine, which I readily did. Dirty dancing, then we're ready to go out. Her friend was pretty drunk, and she asked if I had a friend who would take care of her. Bad luck, I have no friends. Besides the friend wasn't nearly as good looking as my girl.
Her name was Lek. She was from Bang Na. Older than my last one, maybe 30, but very well kept. I took her to Oasis, and she remarked how beautiful the room was. After shower we started f*cking. Money was not even mentioned once. But then one of WillBillLewis' theorems kicked in: Pattaya threw me a curve ball. Lek was tired and didn't want to fuck anymore. I hadn't even come yet. I did a quick computation in my head how to handle this, and the key fact was that the room was ours for 2 hours. So I let her sleep in my arms. It was very GFE. Then after half an hour I woke her up and started fucking her again. It felt good. To finish me off, she took off my condom and gave me an expert blowjob with CIM. Nice touch!
I've never had a working girl sleep in my arms before making me cum during a short-time session. But I guess it's all about how you handle the curve balls in Pattaya! All in all a pleasant experience, because we had a good connection and it was as close as seducing a girl in a night club as it can possibly be. I slipped the money into her purse afterwards without saying anything, to keep up the pretense of a boyfriend / girlfriend thing. She noticed and I think she was thankful I didn't make her feel like a cheap.
Mr Enternational
04-15-15, 04:12
These Israeli girls use their sexy charm to sell their over priced products made from the Dead Sea minerals and they will give you their phone numbers too! These products have a magical healing effect on their bank accounts with fat commissions! How do I know this? I have some nice Dead Sea lotion and a phone number!That is why it is important to remember that Sodium Chloride is NaCl no matter where it is from.
Red Dogger
04-15-15, 05:20
The hottest girls are seldom to be found in bars, and when you find one in bar, chances are she is not for rent, she just there to pull in customers and get them to buy drinks.
But I found a way hot bargirl. She asked 400 bar fine, 2500 long time, and no suck. I am used to paying 1500 long time, so attempt to bargain her down, but she knew what she was worth.
So I agree. We go to my hotel room. She undresses to reveal a completely flawless perfect body and miraculous gravity defying breasts. Disregarding her protests, I wash her face to remove her makeup, and her face is even better without that incompetently applied makeup. Perfect face, perfect body.
She will not suck, and her attempt at a handjob is painfully bad. I am a sadist, not a masochist.
However the upside of her not sucking is that she does kiss. I have to force her to kiss, but despite the fact that I am theoretically forcing her, she does not really resist, and she kisses right back and does so very well indeed. After a little warm up, she gives a great girlfriend experience.
She felt like the best kisser I have ever kissed, although this might be a delusion caused by the beauty of her face. Or maybe she was just naturally and instinctively talented.
When I fuck her, she gasps, cries, grunts, and whimpers delightfully.
So, 2900 Baht very well spent.
Gin And Tonic
04-15-15, 06:11
Agreed.
Many people go astray by trying to go about their business in Thailand by western standards and culture.
They all expect money even if they don't say.
They are never that in to you where money doesn't matter in the long term.
Get the business part out of the way up front.
Giving a girl access to wallet or phone is a big no no.I have found the best way for me to deal with this is pay living expenses of live-in and give her gold gifts that will be hers when things end. Otherwise cash always seems to be needed by relative or friend or someone she will not say no to.
Hi all,
Anyone know a good private clinic where I can get some tests done. Just want to be sure I'm not going home with some uninvited guests LOL.
Has anyone had one before? What's the drill?
How long does it take to get results? I will only be in Pattaya for 4 nights.
Thanks in advance.
Red
MTG.
Thanks for being so honest with your story, it just shows how things can go downhill even with a non bar girl, just thank yourself lucky that you never gave her your credit card and pin number to nip out for some cash for you. .
I am sure that you will have an even better trip next time, lessons learnt and all that.
Feelz Good
04-15-15, 11:58
You finally got what you wanted and a little respect paid off. You cannot get to attached no matter what it seems like because it is almost always, 99.7% of the time, Pay for Play, period. When money isn't mentioned it is always quietly implied. So knowing that, and keep on reminding yourself of that, when experiencing all the different venues, your mind will be setup for a good time. It is a lesson learned by all successful mongers in Pattaya.
As Songkran approaches the atmosphere in Pattaya is more up. I went to a couple of go-go bars, in one of them bought lady drink for a dancer. I asked what the barfine was and she said 1500 Baht. I just walked out.
Then I ended up at Insomnia. Went around, chatted with some girl, but it wasn't going anywhere so I just moved on. The place is huge and packed with hotties. I sipped my beer at a table near the sea for a while. At my next excursion around the night club, I bump into the same girl completely by chance. I'd forgotten all about her. But this time for some reason we hit it off. Her English was pretty good. She asked me to buy her a glass of red wine, which I readily did. Dirty dancing, then we're ready to go out. Her friend was pretty drunk, and she asked if I had a friend who would take care of her. Bad luck, I have no friends. Besides the friend wasn't nearly as good looking as my girl.
Her name was Lek. She was from Bang Na. Older than my last one, maybe 30, but very well kept. I took her to Oasis, and she remarked how beautiful the room was. After shower we started f*cking. Money was not even mentioned once. But then one of WillBillLewis' theorems kicked in: Pattaya threw me a curve ball. Lek was tired and didn't want to fuck anymore. I hadn't even come yet. I did a quick computation in my head how to handle this, and the key fact was that the room was ours for 2 hours. So I let her sleep in my arms. It was very GFE. Then after half an hour I woke her up and started fucking her again. It felt good. To finish me off, she took off my condom and gave me an expert blowjob with CIM. Nice touch!
I've never had a working girl sleep in my arms before making me cum during a short-time session. But I guess it's all about how you handle the curve balls in Pattaya! All in all a pleasant experience, because we had a good connection and it was as close as seducing a girl in a night club as it can possibly be. I slipped the money into her purse afterwards without saying anything, to keep up the pretense of a boyfriend / girlfriend thing. She noticed and I think she was thankful I didn't make her feel like a cheap wh0 re.
WildBillLewis
04-15-15, 13:34
Yes I think it's best to avoid farang girls in these cases. I think that it shouldn't' be a big problem to get Thai girls in the sack. Just probably takes some time and effort. Anyhow I think I will give it a shot. There was a very pretty, slim, shop girl working the souvenir shops at Mike's Shopping mall. We flirted pretty heavily and I was on the verge of asking her out, but bailed on it as it was my 2nd to last night in town and I wanted to opt for a sure thing instead.Sorry if this isn't exactly about shop girls, but it does concern girls and shops.
I've read somewhere that freelancers can be found at the big mall on Second Road, near Soi 3. The Sabailand soapie is right opposite the mall. I scouted out the mall twice on my last visit, the second time quite thoroughly. That's when I met the Israeli sales girl. It was nice to talk with her. After three weeks in Thailand, it's always nice to have a real conversation in English with a girl: even better if she's a pretty one. That said, I wasn't in the mall looking for cute Israeli chicks. I was looking for the freelancers that were supposed to hang out there. I did see shop girls. I didn't see freelancers. For future reference, where should I have been looking? And when?
WildBillLewis
04-15-15, 14:18
After shower we started f*cking. Money was not even mentioned once. But then Pattaya threw me a curve ball. Lek was tired and didn't want to fuck anymore. I hadn't even come yet. I did a quick computation in my head how to handle this, and the key fact was that the room was ours for 2 hours. So I let her sleep in my arms. It was very GFE. Then after half an hour I woke her up and started fucking her again.
I've never had a working girl sleep in my arms before making me cum during a short-time session. But I guess it's all about how you handle the curve balls in Pattaya! All in all a pleasant experience, because we had a good connection and it was as close as seducing a girl in a night club as it can possibly be.First off, congratulations on what sounds like it was a great experience.
Second, the thing I like best about the discos is that it can sometimes approximate the experience of having seduced a girl in night club. It isn't that at all of course because the girls are there to catch you every bit as much as you are there to catch them, but it can sometimes feel like that. It certainly offers more of the illusion of a GFE than paying the bar fine for a girl or picking her up on the street. Once you're alone with the girl, the two of you will either have a GFE-like connection or you won't: it depends on chemistry and not the location of the pickup. That said, if you have had the pleasure (and enjoyed the illusion) of having "seduced" the girl over the course of a couple of hours at a night club like Insomnia or Marine or The Pier, you get the benefit of an extended (but still illusory) GFE-like experience.
Third, one of the risks with the night club pickup is that, with it being late and with the girl having gyrated on the dance floor for a couple of hours, the girl can tire (and so can the guy, for that matter). If you're dealing with a clock watching "short time" girl and / or a room that you have for only an hour, this can be a problem. If. As you did. You've got a little more flexibility, then you can take a chance, accommodate the girl, and let her rest. You probably know that researchers in the field of sleep patterns talk about "first sleep" and "second sleep", and how, before the Industrial Age, it was not at all uncommon for our ancestors to wake up in the middle of the night and do things. Of course one of the favorite things to do was fuck the person who'd been sleeping in your arms. From that perspective, the risk you took was well judged and, clearly, it paid off. On my most recent trip to Thailand, I only had a couple of liaisons that involved the play / sleep / play / sleep / play scenario, but on the trip prior to that, I found myself in that scenario quite often and really, really, really came to like it. Sounds like you had a great experience. I'm glad for you, and envious.
Uncle Volodya
04-15-15, 15:46
the thing I like best about the discos is that it can sometimes approximate the experience of having seduced a girl in night club. It isn't that at all of course because the girls are there to catch you every bit as much as you are there to catch them, but it can sometimes feel like that. It certainly offers more of the illusion of a GFE than paying the bar fine for a girl or picking her up on the street. Once you're alone with the girl, the two of you will either have a GFE-like connection or you won't: it depends on chemistry and not the location of the pickup. That said, if you have had the pleasure (and enjoyed the illusion) of having "seduced" the girl over the course of a couple of hours at a night club like Insomnia or Marine or The Pier, you get the benefit of an extended (but still illusory) GFE-like experience.
It's a good opportunity to gauge the chemistry if you can read women. I have never had a bad experience when the chemistry was on in the bar. Only when I forced it and taken a girl home despite the magic not being there in the bar.
And if you hit it off you can always repeat. Call the girl and have her come to you for a nice relaxing evening. Hitting the bars till all hours gets old for me after a while and I don't want to do it every night. The key is to build up a little stable of ladies that you can repeat with, adding and subtracting girls over time.
At least this is my blueprint. LOL.
WildBillLewis
04-15-15, 19:20
It's a good opportunity to gauge the chemistry if you can read women. I have never had a bad experience when the chemistry was on in the bar. Only when I forced it and taken a girl home despite the magic not being there in the bar.
And if you hit it off you can always repeat. Call the girl and have her come to you for a nice relaxing evening. Hitting the bars till all hours gets old for me after a while and I don't want to do it every night. The key is to build up a little stable of ladies that you can repeat with, adding and subtracting girls over time.
At least this is my blueprint. LOL.I agree 100%. My first visit to Pattaya, two years ago lasted only three days: the rest of that month-long visit to Thailand (my first) was spent touring around elsewhere. Live and learn they say. After a disappointing month-long visit to the Philippines a year ago, I decided that if when I returned to Thailand, I wasn't going to waste my time touring in search of what I knew with certainty I could find with ease in Pattaya, namely women, especially of the wanton variety. My recent 28 day trip represented an investment on my part in getting to know Pattaya. Of course there is so much of Pattaya to get to know that, in 28 days, I really only scratched the surface. With more visits under one's belt, one could start to put Uncle V's excellent blueprint into action (building up a little stable of ladies that you can repeat with, adding and subtracting girls over time), but as the last two words in that sentence make clear, it would take time.
So there it is in a nutshell: I love the blueprint, but I need more visits to put it into effect. LOL.
Now if only I could work some of that "fishes and loaves" magic on my bank account so I could afford to take more of those trips. Bigger LOL.
Hi all,
Anyone know a good private clinic where I can get some tests done. Just want to be sure I'm not going home with some uninvited guests LOL.
Has anyone had one before? What's the drill?
How long does it take to get results? I will only be in Pattaya for 4 nights.
Thanks in advance.
RedFrom my research, there is an STD clinic on Soi Buakhao when turning left from Soi Diana onto Buakhao. But I could have that mixed up with a pharmacy.
Or course, if you happened to catch HIV, HSV or HPV, tain't nothing much you can do. But, too late now. To deal with bacterial infections, I would just go to the pharmacy and get 4-250 MG pills of Azithromycin and take them as a single dose right after you said goodbye to the last girl. Do that, and bye bye any potential chlamydia or gonorrhea infections. At the clinic, they would probably want to swab inside your penis. I would rather take the drugs to be safe than do the swab.
Eric Swiss
04-16-15, 05:09
She is a cheap working girl and you are the customer of a cheap working girl- we all are.
Maybe its just me but I find it more fun dealing with reality. Thinking they want to be my GF is silly and downright a downer. Hahaha!I was not thinking that Lek wanted to be my girlfriend. She just wanted to be treated like one until the sun came up over Walking Street.
Eric Swiss
04-16-15, 05:25
You finally got what you wanted and a little respect paid off. You cannot get to attached no matter what it seems like because it is almost always, 99.7% of the time, Pay for Play, period. When money isn't mentioned it is always quietly implied. So knowing that, and keep on reminding yourself of that, when experiencing all the different venues, your mind will be setup for a good time. It is a lesson learned by all successful mongers in Pattaya.I'm seeing two more theorems to add to my list here: 1) show a little respect; 2) pay-as-you-go and pay cash! I agree with both, of course. The only thing I would add is that the first theorem is always a bet, because you can never be sure it will be reciprocated, so you've got to work the odds. But the second one is a slam dunk.
Eric Swiss
04-16-15, 06:19
That said, if you have had the pleasure (and enjoyed the illusion) of having "seduced" the girl over the course of a couple of hours at a night club like Insomnia or Marine or The Pier, you get the benefit of an extended (but still illusory) GFE-like experience.
Third, one of the risks with the night club pickup is that, with it being late and with the girl having gyrated on the dance floor for a couple of hours, the girl can tire (and so can the guy, for that matter). If you're dealing with a clock watching "short time" girl and / or a room that you have for only an hour, this can be a problem. If. As you did. You've got a little more flexibility, then you can take a chance, accommodate the girl, and let her rest. You probably know that researchers in the field of sleep patterns talk about "first sleep" and "second sleep", and how, before the Industrial Age, it was not at all uncommon for our ancestors to wake up in the middle of the night and do things. Of course one of the favorite things to do was fuck the person who'd been sleeping in your arms. From that perspective, the risk you took was well judged and, clearly, it paid off. On my most recent trip to Thailand, I only had a couple of liaisons that involved the play / sleep / play / sleep / play scenario, but on the trip prior to that, I found myself in that scenario quite often and really, really, really came to like it. Sounds like you had a great experience. I'm glad for you, and envious.Thank you for the list of clubs, I'm always going to Insomnia, but I've felt the need to broaden my horizon lately.
I am familiar with this sleep research. Lek comes from a long family tree of women who have been genetically selected (in part) for their willingness to have sex in the middle of the night, because the unwilling ones had fewer offspring (all else being equal), so I hoped there was some of that left in her.
While you may be envious that I am in Thailand, I am envious of what you could achieve in 28 days in Thailand, so in the big scheme of things it is all square!
Crocodilexp
04-16-15, 18:25
To deal with bacterial infections, I would just go to the pharmacy and get 4-250 MG pills of Azithromycin and take them as a single dose right after you said goodbye to the last girl. Do that, and bye bye any potential chlamydia or gonorrhea infections. At the clinic, they would probably want to swab inside your penis. I would rather take the drugs to be safe than do the swab.
Shitty advice. What you propose is a great way to create new strains of antibiotic-resistant bacteria. They are already prevalent, and Gonorrhea is on average more difficult to treat now than 10 or 20 years ago. Do not take antibiotics without checking with a doctor first, don't take them when you don't need them, and take the full course prescribed.
Feelz Good
04-16-15, 21:29
You can never be sure that it will be reciprocated but ie. Last Nov I go back to the Windmill, one of my favorite spots for a few beers, I am sitting there and this cutie runs over and jumps on my lap. I think OK here comes the the Lady Drink request. To my surprise she says, "don't you remember me?" I look at her but do not have a clue. Probably my Alzheimer's disease but I said no I am sorry. She says you bar fined me last year and we had fun and you were a gentleman. I was in Windmill the year before and I did a couple take-outs but do not remember this doll. Anyway, long story short she says lets get together again. I said I don't want to pay the bar fine. She said OK, lets meet after we close. Then she says would you mind if I bring my girlfriend I told her you are nice guy. Now needless to say I had a great time with two cuties. My total cost was 2500 Baht. Yes I did do this girl the year earlier because I found a photo of her on my computer that I took the year before. Now the moral of my story is I am over sixty, not good looking, overweight, not a porn star by any means and my weiner is below average. Why did this young lady remember me? I know I didn't overpay last year or this year for two cuties that rocked my world. All she said on leaving is call me anytime, you nice man. Her girlfriend pipes up and says me to. I don't know but all I can think of is I treated her decently the year before. I am surprised to say the least with all the wagging dicks that walk in and out of the Windmill over a years time that she remembered me. The moral of my story I think is treat the girls with some respect but fuck the shit out them.
I'm seeing two more theorems to add to my list here: 1) show a little respect; 2) pay-as-you-go and pay cash! I agree with both, of course. The only thing I would add is that the first theorem is always a bet, because you can never be sure it will be reciprocated, so you've got to work the odds. But the second one is a slam dunk.
Shitty advice. What you propose is a great way to create new strains of antibiotic-resistant bacteria. They are already prevalent, and Gonorrhea is on average more difficult to treat now than 10 or 20 years ago. Do not take antibiotics without checking with a doctor first, don't take them when you don't need them, and take the full course prescribed.Resistance sets up when you don't complete a course of antibiotics. In this case, you take a single dose and you are done and, if you have a bug, it gets killed.
I certainly agree it is not the ideal way, but it can take a few days for an infection to show up on the tests. If he is leaving Friday and he gets tested on Thursday, but he caught a bug on Wednesday, his test will be negative. So, he goes home and has sex with the wife on Saturday thinking he is clean, only to wake up Sunday to a painful dick. Oops. His wife may now have the clap!
If he takes the full dose maybe 12 hours after his last P4P activity, it will kill any bacterial bugs if may have picked up and he will go home clean. It is people who are, say, prescribed 7 days of doxy and quit after 2 or 3 days, who cause resistance.
And doctors treat patients this way all the time. You go to the clinic and, just to be safe, they give you a prophylactic treatment of Zithromax or doxy or whatever as they know it is difficult to get people back in for treatment should they test positive.
Ideally, of course, he refrains from sex with the wife for a week before being tested, but if he wife is expecting sex when he gets home, what can he do? He can use the "too tired" excuse only so long. And, ideally, he should wait even longer to have sex with her to see if HPV or HSV shows up, and continue to refrain for another couple of months and then go back for an HSV panel and HIV test. These are the risks.
So, I think my advice is quite logical and is based on actual medical practices. Again, he can test clean in Thailand but still come home with a bug, and the only way to ensure he does not bring back gonorrhea or Chlamydia is either refrain from sex for a week to see if a bug develops, or by taking a prophylactic treatment two days or so before having unprotected sew with someone else. My shitty advice could possibly save a marriage.
<snipped> I don't know but all I can think of is I treated her decently the year before. I am surprised to say the least with all the wagging dicks that walk in and out of the Windmill over a years time that she remembered me. The moral of my story I think is treat the girls with some respect but fuck the shit out them.How some of these providers remember the things they do is beyond me. Is it something innate in women that allows them to remember what they do, or something innate in males that allows us to forget the things we do?
But great for you! Had you been a dick head with her, she would have avoided you and this wonderful experience you had would not have happened. Good to hear that some of these ladies are not so jaded that they remember and appreciate good men who treat them with respect.
Eric Swiss
04-17-15, 03:08
The moral of my story I think is treat the girls with some respect but fuck the shit out them.Good motto!
Eric Swiss
04-17-15, 03:27
I put my lucky shirt on and headed out to Walking Street. I went to Sensations, and there's this girl dancing who smiles and says we were together before. Obviously I have no recollection, but since she has big tits it is at least plausible. Anyway I told her I just wanted to drink my beer quietly and she left me alone. Another girl half-flirted with me even though I did not buy any lady drinks, so I thought this was going to be a good night.
I went to The Pier but it was too early, there was nobody. Predictably, I ended up at Insomnia, and on my first tour around the club I notice this girl with a classy dress and fake Chanel bag. I approach and strike a conversation. Her name is May (rhymes with eye). I guess her age as 27 but she is 31. Quite tall: 1 m66. One child but very well kept. This time she negotiates the price upfront. I bring down her initial asking price, and we walk out. This was to be a test of WildBillLewis' theory that the older ones are better in the sack.
The BBBJ was really good. She went on for a long time. It was so good that instead of lying on my back, as I normally do, I knelt on the bed to watch her from above sucking me. Very nice view!
Suffice to say that she was really good in the sack, so that's one more data point in favor of the theory. I remember specifically one moment when we were doing missionary, and she folded back her knees to put her ankles around my neck, then she passed both her forearms around her knees in what I can only describe as the Brace! Brace! Position (see attached picture). I nearly made an emergency landing right there and then!
Towards the end, I still had trouble coming due to beer-induced decreased sensitivity, so I told her she could finish me off with her mouth. For some reason she insisted I finish off pounding her pussy instead, so the burden was on her to find a position that would make me irresistibly go over the edge. Here's what she did: starting from a regular doggy-style, she oriented herself so she would face the mirror on the side of the bed, and lifted her chest up and placed her hands on the mirror. She was basically looking at herself in the mirror getting pounded by me. That turned me on so much that I shot my load immediately. Mission accomplished!
It's nice for once to have a girl who knows her way around a cock. Why don't all of them make a bit of effort to learn, it's not difficult, dammit?
WildBillLewis
04-17-15, 13:20
Abridged:
I went to Sensations, and there's this girl dancing who smiles and says we were together before. I have no recollection, but since she has big tits it is at least plausible. I told her I just wanted to drink my beer quietly and she left me alone. Another girl half-flirted with me even though I did not buy any lady drinks, so I thought this was going to be a good night.
I ended up at Insomnia, and on my first tour around the club I notice this girl. Her name is May (rhymes with eye). I guess her age as 27 but she is 31. Quite tall: very well kept. She negotiates the price upfront. I bring down her initial asking price, and we walk out. This was to be a test of WildBillLewis' theory that the older ones are better in the sack.
Suffice to say that she was really good in the sack, so that's one more data point in favor of the theory.
It's nice for once to have a girl who knows her way around a cock.First off, congratulations on what sounds like a great night. It does a man's ego good to have girls approach them like they approached you in Sensations. Sure, we all know that the thing they really want to get hold of is the money in your pocket. But here's another thing we all know: most of the men in Pattaya bars have money in their pockets (except for me that one time) and not all of them get approached like you were, and you were approached by two! No wonder it seemed like it was going to be a good night.
Congratulations on landing May, who looked 27 but was actually 31. She combined a still-youthful appearance with the experience that the younger ones so often lack. I'd be curious, as I'm sure others would be too, what the difference was between what she initially asked for and what you eventually agreed upon.
Your last point is an interesting one. It is nice to have a girl who knows her way around a cock. Isn't it surprising, though, that skilled practitioners of the art of sex are a bit hard to find in Pattaya? After all, the entire Pattaya sex industry revolves around that one legendary pole. The way bar girls swap stories with one another, you'd think they'd have this stuff down pat, but many (and perhaps even most) of them don't. It would be like going to the Kentucky Derby and finding that many of the jockeys were not very skilled when it came to riding horses, or discovering that many airline pilots were confused by all the knobs and dials in an airplane cockpit. It would come as a surprise I think. Anyway, it seems you landed one of the good ones.
WildBillLewis
04-17-15, 13:32
She says you bar fined me last year and we had fun and you were a gentleman. I said I don't want to pay the bar fine. She said OK, lets meet after we close. Then she says would you mind if I bring my girlfriend I told her you are nice guy. Now needless to say I had a great time with two cuties. I am surprised to say the least with all the wagging dicks that walk in and out of the Windmill over a years time that she remembered me. The moral of my story I think is treat the girls with some respect but fuck the shit out them.Wise words. Great story too: seems like a real "win win (win)".
In a posting a few days ago, Uncle V suggested a blueprint for success that involved building a stable of contacts over This particular girl seems to have adopted Uncle v's approach and apparently you're on her list. What nice surprises this world can sometimes offer up!
WildBillLewis
04-17-15, 17:11
On my trip to Thailand two years ago, I was with ten different women, two of whom were true squirters and another two of whom were dribblers. I loved it. Any man who has gotten a women worked up to the point where she releases like that knows just how amazing it is. As much as I enjoy my orgasms, I am in awe of women who can come with such power. Anyone who's been with a squirter knows what I mean. Anyone who's not yet been with a squirter has a treat awaiting them. On my most recent trip, I was with twenty-five different women but came across no true squirters and only one dribbler: awesome, athletic Yoyo. I don't yet have enough experience in Thailand to know if I just got lucky on my first trip, or if I just got unlucky on my second trip. Experienced hands, any views?
Crocodilexp
04-17-15, 20:55
Anyone who's not yet been with a squirter has a treat awaiting them.
Amen. For my first 5 years as a monger, I thought a squirter was a mythical creature. Then I found Ying at Tulip Massage (in Bangkok, sorry if this is irrelevant to the Pattaya thread). She's been the only squirter so far, among hundreds.
I don't know if there's anything I can do on my end to make them squirt. Probably not, as I wasn't doing anything with her that I didn't with others, but we did have a fair bit of chemistry going.
On my trip to Thailand two years ago, I was with ten different women, two of whom were true squirters and another two of whom were dribblers. I loved it. Any man who has gotten a women worked up to the point where she releases like that knows just how amazing it is. As much as I enjoy my orgasms, I am in awe of women who can come with such power. Anyone who's been with a squirter knows what I mean. Anyone who's not yet been with a squirter has a treat awaiting them. On my most recent trip, I was with twenty-five different women but came across no true squirters and only one dribbler: awesome, athletic Yoyo. I don't yet have enough experience in Thailand to know if I just got lucky on my first trip, or if I just got unlucky on my second trip. Experienced hands, any views?My first one I thought she pissed herself. Scare the shit out of me. LOL.
She was fun but we had to start doing it with a towel underneath otherwise fuck on one side the bed sleep on the other.
WildBillLewis
04-18-15, 00:56
My first one I thought she pissed herself. Scare the shit out of me. LOL.
She was fun but we had to start doing it with a towel underneath otherwise fuck on one side the bed sleep on the other.I know what you mean about the towel, but what a wonderful problem to have!
My first one I thought she pissed herself. You guessed right.
You guessed right.Well it didn't taste like [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). LOL.
MTG.
Thanks for being so honest with your story, it just shows how things can go downhill even with a non bar girl, just thank yourself lucky that you never gave her your credit card and pin number to nip out for some cash for you. .
I am sure that you will have an even better trip next time, lessons learnt and all that.To all that read & believe the following:
We are here, after experiencing relationships in our home countries.
OG's here just not worth the hassle. I guess I have been spoiled by all the various services offered & taken during my take outs. She could not match the variety, even though she had a curious / exploratory side. Sometimes I get lazy & do not want to lead but instead lay back and see what develops during a session whether it evolves into a GF or P.S. Session. Also in the end. This little situation actually cost more $ than my usual take outs.
Mtg.
WildBillLewis
04-18-15, 03:17
Amen. For my first 5 years as a monger, I thought a squirter was a mythical creature. Then I found Ying at Tulip Massage (in Bangkok, sorry if this is irrelevant to the Pattaya thread). She's been the only squirter so far, among hundreds.
I don't know if there's anything I can do on my end to make them squirt. Probably not, as I wasn't doing anything with her that I didn't with others, but we did have a fair bit of chemistry going.Among hundreds! You lucky fellow. I look forward to the day when I might breech the hundred mark. Having been faithfully married for thirty years, I'm only around the fifty mark right now. Late starter. I wonder if I have enough racetrack left to ever hit the plural. Colour me green, as is, green with envy.
Among hundreds! You lucky fellow. I look forward to the day when I might breech the hundred mark. Having been faithfully married for thirty years, I'm only around the fifty mark right now. Late starter. I wonder if I have enough racetrack left to ever hit the plural. Colour me green, as is, green with envy.Wild Bill, don't worry about the finish line, enjoy the race. That is where the fun is.
On my trip to Thailand two years ago, I was with ten different women, two of whom were true squirters and another two of whom were dribblers. I loved it. Any man who has gotten a women worked up to the point where she releases like that knows just how amazing it is. As much as I enjoy my orgasms, I am in awe of women who can come with such power. Anyone who's been with a squirter knows what I mean. Anyone who's not yet been with a squirter has a treat awaiting them. On my most recent trip, I was with twenty-five different women but came across no true squirters and only one dribbler: awesome, athletic Yoyo. I don't yet have enough experience in Thailand to know if I just got lucky on my first trip, or if I just got unlucky on my second trip. Experienced hands, any views?
Many true local squirters are doing their best to avoid squirting. The first one I met in Thailand was really ashamed after squirting and immediately started to told me that she was sorry to have wet the bed in such a way but insisted that it was not [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). I answered that I knew that already and that she shouldn't be ashamed and that I was pleased that she enjoyed our session so much, yet, she still tried as much as she could to avoid squirting on later occasions (even after I insisted and told her that it pleases me).
I have noticed this attitude with several other local squirters and many Thai women don't allow you certain sexual acts (such as DATY, for instance) or only up to a point where they are still in control of themselves, because they know or suspect that if you perform those acts long enough, they are likely to squirt.
Well it didn't taste like [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). LOL.It's clear and odorless too, thus, it's easy to see that it's not [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109).
Eric Swiss
04-18-15, 07:40
First off, congratulations on what sounds like a great night. It does a man's ego good to have girls approach them like they approached you in Sensations. Sure, we all know that the thing they really want to get hold of is the money in your pocket. But here's another thing we all know: most of the men in Pattaya bars have money in their pockets (except for me that one time) and not all of them get approached like you were, and you were approached by two! No wonder it seemed like it was going to be a good night.
Congratulations on landing May, who looked 27 but was actually 31. She combined a still-youthful appearance with the experience that the younger ones so often lack. I'd be curious, as I'm sure others would be too, what the difference was between what she initially asked for and what you eventually agreed upon.First off, thank you for gathering an encyclopedic amount of primary data at your own expense, publishing your records for free for the rest of us to read, and summarizing it in rational conclusions. It was the kind of scientific analysis that I needed in order to convince myself to start acting on theorems such as "disco freelancers are a better deal than go-go dancers" and "by 28 they start knowing their way around a cock," among others.
I take no credit for having been approached twice at Sensations: it's because I had my lucky shirt on. Everybody has a lucky shirt. It is just a matter of finding out which one it is, digging it out from your closet, and reserving it for that special occasion. Not quite as crazy as it sounds.
Regarding the first Sensations girl, I discovered from re-reading an earlier post of mine in this forum that her name was Cara. I banged her a couple of months ago: same number #38. At that time she asked me to contribute some money towards her planned boobs enhancement operation, which I did in exchange for some "short-time" services. And now lo and behold she has new boobs! I am glad I can help other people achieve their goals. She looked less to my taste than before, but don't tell her I said that. Among all the implant sizes the doctor offered her, she chose too big IMHO. But not exactly my problem. Other punters may differ: she is not married to my isolated data point (no way! She is married to the law of large numbers.
Mai asked 3000 and I negotiated it down to 2000. I won't claim this is optimal.
Hi to everyone,
I am visiting heaven on 10 may and needed your help bros I have heard lot about soapy spas and stuff there please bro let me know how Pattaya I want to explore it and for all sharing is caring.
Any suggestion of a good soapy massage parlor in pattaya equivalent to that of Annie's in Bangkok. I've been to Annie's many a time, but I'll be visiting Pattaya for the first time.
WildBillLewis
04-18-15, 13:46
First off, thank you for gathering an encyclopedic amount of primary data at your own expense, publishing your records for free for the rest of us to read, and summarizing it in rational conclusions.
I take no credit for having been approached twice at Sensations: it's because I had my lucky shirt on. Everybody has a lucky shirt. It is just a matter of finding out which one it is, digging it out from your closet, and reserving it for that special occasion. Not quite as crazy as it sounds.
Mai asked 3000 and I negotiated it down to 2000. I won't claim this is optimal.I learned a lot while I was living the experience and jotting down notes in the process. I learned even more afterwards when I reflected on my experience and put words to paper.
Regarding the "special shirt" not being quite as crazy as it sounds, I think I know what you're getting at. There are some some articles of clothing that I think make me look good. In the eyes of others, maybe they really do, or maybe they don't. I don't care. When I wear those articles of clothing, I feel confident.
As for Mai, I'd bet there are a lot of mongers who'd gladly swap 2,000 Baht for the experience you got by parting with that money. I'm one of them.
WildBillLewis
04-18-15, 13:57
Many true local squirters are doing their best to avoid squirting.
I have noticed this attitude with several other local squirters and many Thai women don't allow you certain sexual acts (such as DATY, for instance) or only up to a point where they are still in control of themselves, because they know or suspect that if you perform those acts long enough, they are likely to squirt.Your response really resonates with me. The woman I lived with for 30 years did not become a dribbler until she was in her mid-forties. It took that long for the strictures of her Catholic upbringing to wear away enough that she would allow herself this naughty pleasure. Even then, as you have put it so well, she would do her best to avoid squirting. I thought it was just a "Catholic shame" thing, but that explanation wouldn't get you very far with Thais. Whatever the explanation, it's unfortunate that so many women seem reluctant to embrace such an awe-inspiring release.
WildBillLewis
04-18-15, 14:04
I have another question for the brotherhood of the Pattaya forum. If Pattaya is the Mecca of mongering, where in the world is the next best place?
I have another question for the brotherhood of the Pattaya forum. If Pattaya is the Mecca of mongering, where in the world is the next best place?Great question. I'd also like to hear what others have to say on this. For me Pattaya is certainly number one and Angeles City, Philippines is number two. For years, people have been asking opinions about which one of the two is better and more importantly, why. I do like that most of the Filipina girls speak English and give a good GFE, but other than the hobby, there is very little to do in Angeles City. On the other hand, in my experience, Thai girls are less likely to speak fluent English and seem to offer a little more professional (at times somewhat mechanical) performance in bed. Other than the girls, the food, hotels, shopping, and entertainment options are much better in Pattaya IMHO, but I've had many great experiences in both places. Thanks to Jackson for this forum. It's a very valuable resource for many years for me. If all goes well, I should be posting some reports from Pattaya this summer.
Great question. I'd also like to hear what others have to say on this. For me Pattaya is certainly number one and Angeles City, Philippines is number two.IMHO, Asian destinations can only be the best if you like Asian women the most. I do not as I much prefer the Latinas and the white girls. So for me, Brazil and its termas is the easy number 1 pick (especially if you like to butt fuck hot girls) and Germany and its FKKs is the easy number 2. I place Thailand at number 3 (would be 1st if I liked Asian women the most), Costa Rica at number 4, and The PI at number 5 (would be higher if I liked Asian women more). And then there's all the rest. And with that, my "World Cup" bracket is complete LOL!
Banana Boi
04-18-15, 18:25
I have another question for the brotherhood of the Pattaya forum. If Pattaya is the Mecca of mongering, where in the world is the next best place?For Europe, the FKK clubs in Germany (Frankfurt and Dusseldorf / NRW) $120 USD per hour ($60 USD more for CIM).
For North America, the incalls in Toronto and outcalls in Montreal. Great service and great value with hot 18-23 year old girls ($150-200 USD per hour includes DFK, DATY, CIM) in both Canadian cities if you know which agencies are good.
For strip clubs with no sex, Las Vegas. No value whatsoever but a lot of fun!
WildBillLewis
04-18-15, 19:00
Great question. I'd also like to hear what others have to say on this. For me Pattaya is certainly number one and Angeles City, Philippines is number two. For years, people have been asking opinions about which one of the two is better and more importantly, why. I do like that most of the Filipina girls speak English and give a good GFE, but other than the hobby, there is very little to do in Angeles City. On the other hand, in my experience, Thai girls are less likely to speak fluent English and seem to offer a little more professional (at times somewhat mechanical) performance in bed. Other than the girls, the food, hotels, shopping, and entertainment options are much better in Pattaya IMHO, but I've had many great experiences in both places. Thanks to Jackson for this forum. It's a very valuable resource for many years for me. If all goes well, I should be posting some reports from Pattaya this summer.I guess I'll have to give Angeles City another try. I was there a year ago, but only for four days. Before Angeles, I'd spent five days in Manila (which was four days too many) and another five in Subic. I had some fun in Subic, but it really has little to recommend it IMHO. Then I was off to Boracay (which I liked), Bohol and Palawan. As for Angeles, I suppose four days is not enough. On the other hand, it was long enough for me to concur with your observations about there being very little to do there save monger.
Looking forward to your posts.
I guess I'll have to give Angeles City another try. I was there a year ago, but only for four days. Before Angeles, I'd spent five days in Manila (which was four days too many) and another five in Subic. I had some fun in Subic, but it really has little to recommend it IMHO. Then I was off to Boracay (which I liked), Bohol and Palawan. As for Angeles, I suppose four days is not enough. On the other hand, it was long enough for me to concur with your observations about there being very little to do there save monger.
Looking forward to your posts.You don't need to give Angeles another try. What you saw in four days was it. After that it is just plain boring unless you like watching tv which the locals do alot.
The next best place I guess would depend on how much you are willing to spend. Personally I liked Colombia second to Pattaya because the women are so f'ing hot, but there are other that would disagree.
My opinion may change after my trip to Brazil.
Uncle Volodya
04-18-15, 21:46
I have another question for the brotherhood of the Pattaya forum. If Pattaya is the Mecca of mongering, where in the world is the next best place?For budget value Angeles is good. An the Filipino girls are super sweet. Don't waste time looking for FL and just barfine a hottie from Pharoh or one of the better clubs. The door girls at Pharoh are super cute.
If you have money to spend I think Singapore is great. Lovely Viet girls at Orchard towers and the scene in Geyland is intriguing with some good deals to be had.
Question, you swapped numbers with a go go dancer after a fuck. Then the next night your phone goes off at 4 am, it's her calling if she can come over. No price is agreed upon, no barfine to be paid. You get one shot before going to sleep, another after both of you wake up. So what's a decent amount to give her? Would a 1000 baht be too low?
Question, you swapped numbers with a go go dancer after a fuck. Then the next night your phone goes off at 4 am, it's her calling if she can come over. No price is agreed upon, no barfine to be paid. You get one shot before going to sleep, another after both of you wake up. So what's a decent amount to give her? Would a 1000 baht be too low?She would expect that you give her the same amount you gave her the night before. You would save the bar fine. If you gave her 2000 the first night, 1000 the next night would be too low.
She would expect that you give her the same amount you gave her the night before. You would save the bar fine. If you gave her 2000 the first night, 1000 the next night would be too low.But what if the service was subpar? Would it be better to mention a price before you agreed to her stopping by?
But what if the service was subpar? Would it be better to mention a price before you agreed to her stopping by?If the service was sub par I can't imagine why you would want to repeat at any price, but if you do, it wouldn't hurt to just tell her you'll give her 1000 this time. Expect to get the same sub par service or worse at a lower cost point if she agrees.
If the service was sub par I can't imagine why you would want to repeat at any price, but if you do, it wouldn't hurt to just tell her you'll give her 1000 this time. Expect to get the same sub par service or worse at a lower cost point if she agrees.Ok, lets say service was good first time but the late night call didn't stack up. My thinking is tell her you didn't earn 2000. Hand her the 1000 and say if you want the rest you'd better do something before you leave.
Question, you swapped numbers with a go go dancer after a fuck. Then the next night your phone goes off at 4 am, it's her calling if she can come over. No price is agreed upon, no barfine to be paid. You get one shot before going to sleep, another after both of you wake up. So what's a decent amount to give her? Would a 1000 baht be too low?Yes too low!
What happened was she like you because she didn't have to perform. Good for her and not for you. Better to stay away from this girl. She didn't call you because she adores your company.
Ok, lets say service was good first time but the late night call didn't stack up. My thinking is tell her you didn't earn 2000. Hand her the 1000 and say if you want the rest you'd better do something before you leave.I always get the money straight up front. No problems later that way and it is just good business. I never buy anything where there is a question of how much it will cost.
Ok, lets say service was good first time but the late night call didn't stack up. My thinking is tell her you didn't earn 2000. Hand her the 1000 and say if you want the rest you'd better do something before you leave.Why be negative with her when you can be positive. If she calls a 4 am, just say: "honey, it's 4 am; if you want to come over now I'll give you 1000 baht, OK mai? That way you both know what to expect and you avoid the necessity of insulting her by telling her she didn't earn what you gave her before.
She would expect that you give her the same amount you gave her the night before. You would save the bar fine. If you gave her 2000 the first night, 1000 the next night would be too low.I respectfully disagree. There's no 'rule' or going rate for this and I think most of the girls don't expect the same amount. If a girl wants to come to you in her spare time she's obviously in need of money so you can take advantage of that.
For example: I barfined a cute 18 yo from the Airport Club. Her fee was 2000 B for ST. I got her number and in the following weeks we had a couple of afternoon sessions. We did not negotiate a price upfront. I gave her 1000 B for each session and she was happy with it.
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