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I have another question for the brotherhood of the Pattaya forum. If Pattaya is the Mecca of mongering, where in the world is the next best place?I think a sex Mecca for you personally is what variety you like to indulge in and where you get the best service from that variety. Let me elaborate. I like Vietnamese girls but I found the service from WG in Ho Chi Min City below par where the girls generally just want you to finish and leave. I was there for 3 days and didn't have a great service from any of the ladies I went with. Now I frequently visit Shanghai on business and there is a bar called Manhattan. Mostly full of Vietnamese ladies and I have mostly had exceptional GFE service from them. How strange is that and I have tried to understand the phychology but haven't found one. Hong Kong is another place I visit and again many Vietnam ladies there too but again same service as HCMC so for me Shanghai is a sex Mecca only because of Manhattan and the viet ladies. In fact a was there last night and had an amazing session with the gorgeous Lex who has only arrived 2 days ago.
I also visit HK couple of times a year and I have an absolute blast. I do end up spending about 500 per night there including drinks and a lady.
I usually party till about 8 am and take a selection from the after party venue called players. Here you find the leftovers but also non pros or semi pros who have normal days jobs but just want extra money. Here I have had excellent times with phili ladies and girls from Indonesia. Now again I have visited Angeles City too and the service I get from PI girls in HK is miles better IMHO.
I have never been to Pattaya so I can't compare however I will be there from 26th to 30th this month and one day in BKK. 3 of us are going and staying at the Marriot. I have been saving up and have a huge budget after hotel costs so looking at going proper out with party and ladies. I am more of a disco pickup kinda guy as I like drinking with ladies and tend to pick a fun girl. But will of course try gogo bars too.
Looking forward to experiencing the LOS and reporting back.
Thanks all for the wealth of knowledge that has been contributed.
Red
Eric Swiss
04-19-15, 18:19
Regarding the "special shirt" not being quite as crazy as it sounds, I think I know what you're getting at. There are some some articles of clothing that I think make me look good. In the eyes of others, maybe they really do, or maybe they don't. I don't care. When I wear those articles of clothing, I feel confident.Agreed, I think Pick-Up Artists who do not Pay-for-Play call it getting into State. Some even recommend projecting good State onto a talisman (shirt or whatnot) so it is easier to recapture in the future. I cannot see why we mongers cannot steal the best ideas from Game theory.
Wolvenvacht
04-19-15, 19:22
I have another question for the brotherhood of the Pattaya forum. If Pattaya is the Mecca of mongering, where in the world is the next best place?I'm not sure Mecca is a place I'd like to be, but I understand your question. Actually I think Bangkok is the no. 1 place for mongering for me, with Pattaya no. 2.
No. 3 would then be the German partytreffs and FKKs.
WildBillLewis
04-19-15, 20:58
I like Vietnamese girls but I found the service from WG in Ho Chi Min City below par . . . Now I frequently visit Shanghai on business and there is a bar called Manhattan. Mostly full of Vietnamese ladies and I have mostly had exceptional GFE service from them. Hong Kong is another place I visit and again many Vietnam ladies there too but again same service as HCMC so for me Shanghai is a sex Mecca only because of Manhattan
I have never been to Pattaya so I can't compare however I will be there from 26th to 30th this month and one day in BKK.
Looking forward to experiencing the LOS and reporting back.
Thanks all for the wealth of knowledge that has been contributed.
RedThanks to you as well, especially the tip regarding Shanghai, the Manhattan bar and the Viet girls. As for your upcoming four day trip to the LOS, here's wishing you have such a fabulous time that when you leave, you'll wish you had had more time.
I sadly agree with Goodle. During my last trip to Pattaya last month, I met a young pretty girl in ibar. I liked her so I was with her for my last two days. Because I really liked her, I was naturally at my best boy friend type behavior. I even did not have sex with her on second day. But she did not care or appreciate and told me that there are so many men in Pattaya that she does not care and forgets the previous one when she is with a new man next night. At least she was brutally honest. Yes I am 40 year old educated professional and reasonably fit and looks.
I don't understand that these girls had shit experience from their past boy experience then why is it hard for them to appreciate a nice guy?
Get your head out of your REAR END, We are nothing but customers. We are not competing with thai boys for their hearts.
Why can't guys see they are not a thai girls dream cum true. Buying girls is no different than buying a McD's hamburger.
Uncle Volodya
04-20-15, 07:24
I like Vietnamese girls but I found the service from WG in Ho Chi Min City below par where the girls generally just want you to finish and leave. I was there for 3 days and didn't have a great service from any of the ladies I went with. Now I frequently visit Shanghai on business and there is a bar called Manhattan. Mostly full of Vietnamese ladies and I have mostly had exceptional GFE service from them. How strange is that and I have tried to understand the phychology but haven't found one. Here, Here!!
I love Manhattan, though it is a little pricy. I am going to VN next month and will be hanging out with a lovely I met at Manhattan this fall. Great place to hang out too. Ladies will let you make out and fondle them in order to try to get you to take them back to the hotel. Fun times!
A similar place is Impanema at the Orchard Towers in Singapore. Gaggles of gorgeous VN ladies there too. But not as much make out action as you get at Manhattan. Though ST and LT rates there are a little cheaper. Both girls I took back to my hotel gave great GFE and I am hoping to meet one of them again during my VN trip if she will be in country.
Stay horny my friend.
Uncle V.
Here, Here!!
I love Manhattan, though it is a little pricy. I am going to VN next month and will be hanging out with a lovely I met at Manhattan this fall. Great place to hang out too. Ladies will let you make out and fondle them in order to try to get you to take them back to the hotel. Fun times!
A similar place is Impanema at the Orchard Towers in Singapore. Gaggles of gorgeous VN ladies there too. But not as much make out action as you get at Manhattan. Though ST and LT rates there are a little cheaper. Both girls I took back to my hotel gave great GFE and I am hoping to meet one of them again during my VN trip if she will be in country.
Stay horny my friend.
Uncle V.Hi Uncle V,
Yes Manhattan is a little pricey and I guess most of the joints I go to tend to be that way. I'm not boasting nor am I a millionaire but I go to Asia mainly twice a year (sometimes more) and I love to just let my hair down and spend like a dick. It's my release from the stress of business and family life.
I remember when I was in Macau about 2 years ago I spent about 6000 hkd in one night at the D2 club, I was with 2 friends and we all spent that much, we ended up being moved to the VIP area due to our high spend and all the hot chicks were drinking dancing with us, including the coyote dancers. That was one of the best nights ever. And the after party was in my room with a shit load of b, happy faces all the way round.
I sadly agree with Goodle. During my last trip to Pattaya last month, I met a young pretty girl in ibar. I liked her so I was with her for my last two days. Because I really liked her, I was naturally at my best boy friend type behavior. I even did not have sex with her on second day. But she did not care or appreciate and told me that there are so many men in Pattaya that she does not care and forgets the previous one when she is with a new man next night. At least she was brutally honest. Yes I am 40 year old educated professional and reasonably fit and looks.
I don't understand that these girls had shit experience from their past boy experience then why is it hard for them to appreciate a nice guy?So your twice her age. Put yourself in her shoes, imagine a reasonably fit 80 year old women wondering why you don't give her the time of day. LOL.
I sadly agree with Goodle. During my last trip to Pattaya last month, I met a young pretty girl in ibar. I liked her so I was with her for my last two days. Because I really liked her, I was naturally at my best boy friend type behavior. I even did not have sex with her on second day. But she did not care or appreciate and told me that there are so many men in Pattaya that she does not care and forgets the previous one when she is with a new man next night. At least she was brutally honest. Yes I am 40 year old educated professional and reasonably fit and looks.
I don't understand that these girls had shit experience from their past boy experience then why is it hard for them to appreciate a nice guy?You are the one that needs a good talking to. Where in the world it is safe to have those kind of feelings for a prostitute you just met?
Consider yourself lucky you didn't become another sad story. If she had been on her game you would have been and you should have fucked her the second night since you paid for it.
Mr Enternational
04-21-15, 00:08
I don't understand that these girls had shit experience from their past boy experience then why is it hard for them to appreciate a nice guy?Prime example of a guy who should have read the books before going. The girls are there for money, not for romance. To them, boyfriend means "guy who gives me money on a regular basis," and nothing else. They see Pattaya as full of guys who have money to give away the same way we see it as full of girls who have pussy that they want to rent out. Nice guys finish last.
I sadly agree with Goodle. During my last trip to Pattaya last month, I met a young pretty girl in ibar. I liked her so I was with her for my last two days. Because I really liked her, I was naturally at my best boy friend type behavior. I even did not have sex with her on second day. But she did not care or appreciate and told me that there are so many men in Pattaya that she does not care and forgets the previous one when she is with a new man next night. At least she was brutally honest. Yes I am 40 year old educated professional and reasonably fit and looks.
I don't understand that these girls had shit experience from their past boy experience then why is it hard for them to appreciate a nice guy?There are some worldly educated bar girls that have a rule that is to never ever have a boyfriend or husband that you met in a bar!
Also she can not go to the grocery store to buy rice with your professional educated young fit LOOKS! You need to bring some Benjimins with you. Then you will be much appreciated.
Abby.
Uncle Volodya
04-21-15, 11:45
Hi Uncle V,
Yes Manhattan is a little pricey and I guess most of the joints I go to tend to be that way. I'm not boasting nor am I a millionaire but I go to Asia mainly twice a year (sometimes more) and I love to just let my hair down and spend like a dick. It's my release from the stress of business and family life.
I remember when I was in Macau about 2 years ago I spent about 6000 hkd in one night at the D2 club, I was with 2 friends and we all spent that much, we ended up being moved to the VIP area due to our high spend and all the hot chicks were drinking dancing with us, including the coyote dancers. That was one of the best nights ever. And the after party was in my room with a shit load of b, happy faces all the way round.Sounds like fun and that you know how to party. I am trying to relocate my job to Shanghai or Singapore. It'd be fun to hit these places together some time.
Sounds like fun and that you know how to party. I am trying to relocate my job to Shanghai or Singapore. It'd be fun to hit these places together some time.Hi Uncle V,
No problem always nice to have a wingman who likes to party.
PrinceMonger
04-21-15, 21:27
Hi,
So am not a regular monger. Of course, in Thailand, everyone converts to mongerism!
Anyway, I wanted to try something sane and tested and I, like everyone, sought after escorts post the regular dull session with a Thai masseuse. Don't get me wrong, they are great. But too expensive for too little value.
So, I walked into the Den of the beast (read 666) on the second night and boy was I glad!
The mamasan (or the male equivalent) brought a stunning array of tails. And I got to admit, there is a certain pleasure in being able to choose which one you want.
So, I picked the first one that I liked (of course, you know the saying "if it looks too good, it ain't true") . But well, I had to learn the hard way. So I picked her, Jane!
She was pretty, petite and fresh. Just the way I liked 'them women. And so I shake hands with the mamasan (or the male equivalent) and take her out of the den. A few yards out, and I was trying to just show my selection off to the world, when she goes "where are we going?" and am like "well, * * and LOL, she goes, "are you going to make me walk all the way? The main reason I picked the asterix clad hotel (only in this post) is because it was close to the Den. Anyway, she picks the two wheeled taxi and we both hop on and make it to the hotel.
I am so new to this, I am acting like a 14 year old. She signs up at the reception and we take the elevator and my wondering why I felt naked, with everyone watching me. (funny enough, and that's why I love the hotel. Look up my Pattaya hotels report, the few women who are there at that time smile at me, and one ventures to ask me if I have had a nice day and whether I need dinner in the room, got to love the Thais). Anyway, I try to make small talk with Jane. I ask the stupid question, "how long have you been doing this?" LOL. I know as soon as the words spill from my mouth that I am an Idiot. My mind wanders ahead to the time I'll be writing this post and where the senior mongers laugh their ass off. Anyway, guess what she responded, "Too Long! I go (of course in my mind), "Fuck! Tonight is going to be interesting".
I won't bore you with the next few minutes. "oh, let's shower, blah blah blah" . Anyway, we get to the act and she's exactly as I imagined her naked. Petite (Alright, I am that guy that loves the waif models) . Anyway, so she's tight and talented and everything, except, that she has the worst attitude. Anyway, we do the deed (always wanted to say that, LOL, "deed") . And I go get a smoke, and I am ready for the second. However, she is dead as tired and wants to sleep. I tell her, "wait, I got you for the night (LOL, yes, I said that) and she's like OK. With a sullen face. OK, now comes the stupid part, I actually feel sorry for her and ask her "what's up? And she says she's worked a 100 hours that day and everything. I actually decided to let her off the hook (or pole, or whatever us guys call it) and say "OK, sleep" (like really, that's it).
And she is like "really?" I say, "of course, no reason for me to say "sleep" otherwise" . My mind racing, is there a sleep-fuck fantasy somewhere that I haven't tried?
Anyway, she suddenly smiles and cuddles up to me and in a contented voice says "thank you". Imagine, what a sucker I am. I actually felt good!
Anyway, a few minutes later, when we were about to sleep, she says "I have an idea" (of course in broken English) . And goes "you have me until 6. 00 AM, but I don't report for work (well, if it's her "line of profession", then it is "work") until 12.00 noon, why don't I spend until 11.00 AM with you?" and trust me she said this, "you can do me until 111.00). That worked perfect for me. We slept, we woke up, we did the "deed" (LOL, again) and rested and did the deed again. She left A happy rested soul, and I went back to sleep with a happy rested soul.
As they do.
Face: 9/10
Body: 8/10
Attitude: 4/10
Total spend: 3500 Baht.
Total time: 11 hours (10 minutes with the taxi drivers, 10 minutes with the concierge).
Well, am going to make my own metric (you can ask me for the calculator) - JTW satisfaction ratio: 5.
Will be happy to share her. Well, anyone that has access to the internet can find her on your own, but I intend to be a monger that helps fellow mongers PM me!
PrinceMonger
P.S: JTW = Johnny to Wallet.
P.S. P.S: I did go to the Den, the next night, and found a pristine beauty. And it was a blast of a night. But then, I have to increase my posts. Err I mean, write a dedicated FR!
Great first report Prince. Well done.
PrinceMonger
04-22-15, 05:02
Great first report Prince. Well done.Thank you, Sir!
PrinceMonger
04-22-15, 06:18
Great first report Prince. Well done.Thank you, Sir!
... So I picked her, Jane!
Here are the Profiles from DevilDen:
http://devilsdenthailand.com/profiles.html
If you use a Proxy or browse from Europe / USA then you can see the Services. Otherwise you click search, so you can see what Girl is doing A+ etc.
Uncle Volodya
04-22-15, 07:37
Hi,
So am not a regular monger. Of course, in Thailand, everyone converts to mongerism!
Anyway, I wanted to try something sane and tested and I, like everyone, sought after escorts post the regular dull session with a Thai masseuse. Don't get me wrong, they are great. But too expensive for too little value.
So, I walked into the Den of the beast (read 666) on the second night and boy was I glad!
The mamasan (or the male equivalent) brought a stunning array of tails. And I got to admit, there is a certain pleasure in being able to choose which one you want.
So, I picked the first one that I liked (of course, you know the saying "if it looks too good, it ain't true") . But well, I had to learn the hard way. So I picked her, Jane!
She was pretty, petite and fresh. Just the way I liked 'them women. And so I shake hands with the mamasan (or the male equivalent) and take her out of the den. A few yards out, and I was trying to just show my selection off to the world, when she goes "where are we going?" and am like "well, * * and LOL, she goes, "are you going to make me walk all the way? The main reason I picked the asterix clad hotel (only in this post) is because it was close to the Den. Anyway, she picks the two wheeled taxi and we both hop on and make it to the hotel.
I am so new to this, I am acting like a 14 year old. She signs up at the reception and we take the elevator and my wondering why I felt naked, with everyone watching me. (funny enough, and that's why I love the hotel. Look up my Pattaya hotels report, the few women who are there at that time smile at me, and one ventures to ask me if I have had a nice day and whether I need dinner in the room, got to love the Thais). Anyway, I try to make small talk with Jane. I ask the stupid question, "how long have you been doing this?" LOL. I know as soon as the words spill from my mouth that I am an Idiot. My mind wanders ahead to the time I'll be writing this post and where the senior mongers laugh their ass off. Anyway, guess what she responded, "Too Long! I go (of course in my mind), "Fuck! Tonight is going to be interesting".
I won't bore you with the next few minutes. "oh, let's shower, blah blah blah" . Anyway, we get to the act and she's exactly as I imagined her naked. Petite (Alright, I am that guy that loves the waif models) . Anyway, so she's tight and talented and everything, except, that she has the worst attitude. Anyway, we do the deed (always wanted to say that, LOL, "deed") . And I go get a smoke, and I am ready for the second. However, she is dead as tired and wants to sleep. I tell her, "wait, I got you for the night (LOL, yes, I said that) and she's like OK. With a sullen face. OK, now comes the stupid part, I actually feel sorry for her and ask her "what's up? And she says she's worked a 100 hours that day and everything. I actually decided to let her off the hook (or pole, or whatever us guys call it) and say "OK, sleep" (like really, that's it).
And she is like "really?" I say, "of course, no reason for me to say "sleep" otherwise" . My mind racing, is there a sleep-fuck fantasy somewhere that I haven't tried?
Anyway, she suddenly smiles and cuddles up to me and in a contented voice says "thank you". Imagine, what a sucker I am. I actually felt good!
Anyway, a few minutes later, when we were about to sleep, she says "I have an idea" (of course in broken English) . And goes "you have me until 6. 00 AM, but I don't report for work (well, if it's her "line of profession", then it is "work") until 12.00 noon, why don't I spend until 11.00 AM with you?" and trust me she said this, "you can do me until 111.00). That worked perfect for me. We slept, we woke up, we did the "deed" (LOL, again) and rested and did the deed again. She left A happy rested soul, and I went back to sleep with a happy rested soul.
As they do.
Face: 9/10
Body: 8/10
Attitude: 4/10
Total spend: 3500 Baht.
Total time: 11 hours (10 minutes with the taxi drivers, 10 minutes with the concierge).
Well, am going to make my own metric (you can ask me for the calculator) - JTW satisfaction ratio: 5.
Will be happy to share her. Well, anyone that has access to the internet can find her on your own, but I intend to be a monger that helps fellow mongers PM me!
PrinceMonger
P.S: JTW = Johnny to Wallet.
P.S. P.S: I did go to the Den, the next night, and found a pristine beauty. And it was a blast of a night. But then, I have to increase my posts. Err I mean, write a dedicated FR!Nice report. Thanks for the info. Jane is cute, but with that attitude I think she is one to avoid.
I am not sure I see the logic of taking one girl LT from DD. At 3900 you can do MUCH better than the girls they have there. And get GFE to boot instead of the cold professional treatments of the girls there. For me DD is for acting out all your craziest fantasies with good performers. You take 2 girls and go through the Karma Sutra in 2 hours. Otherwise its not a good value.
Just MHO.
Stay horny my friend.
Uncle-V.
FernandoAlonso
04-22-15, 08:03
Gents,
I know I am not a regular poster here but very busy sharing elsewhere. And I happen to not only recently having caught a STD myself but also have knowledge on this subject including antibiotics resistance. So just as a warning, what is proposed here is from a medical viewpoint very dangerous advice including wrong statements. It is exactely the described course of action that contributed to the widespread resistance especially among STD germs. 2 not 1 gram of AZT is still a recommended treatment for one STD. But it works not anymore for most others. Especially gonorrhoea shows resistance rates of up to 80% depending on geography and this not only on Zithromax, it has become very difficult to cure these days. As a matter of prevention azithromycin is absolutely ineffective! It will not safe a marriage but put you in a fake sense of security that may incourage unsafe behaviour. I am not trying to give medical advice nor pass any judgement on how everyone has fun. But for diagnosis and treatment of STDs you need have a diagnostic and specific therapy. Read the CDC website if you do not believe me. It has clear and validated medical information. And the claims on how resistance occurs are also misleading. Do yourself a favour, do not believe in magic one pill cures all approaches.
Stay safe! And enjoy.
FA.
Disclaimer: none stated above qualifies as medical or treatment advice but is just a general personal opinion reflecting information in public sources. If you contract or assume you may have contracted a STD you must contact relevant medical authority for appropriate treatment.
Resistance sets up when you don't complete a course of antibiotics. In this case, you take a single dose and you are done and, if you have a bug, it gets killed.
I certainly agree it is not the ideal way, but it can take a few days for an infection to show up on the tests. If he is leaving Friday and he gets tested on Thursday, but he caught a bug on Wednesday, his test will be negative. So, he goes home and has sex with the wife on Saturday thinking he is clean, only to wake up Sunday to a painful dick. Oops. His wife may now have the clap!
If he takes the full dose maybe 12 hours after his last P4P activity, it will kill any bacterial bugs if may have picked up and he will go home clean. It is people who are, say, prescribed 7 days of doxy and quit after 2 or 3 days, who cause resistance.
And doctors treat patients this way all the time. You go to the clinic and, just to be safe, they give you a prophylactic treatment of Zithromax or doxy or whatever as they know it is difficult to get people back in for treatment should they test positive.
Ideally, of course, he refrains from sex with the wife for a week before being tested, but if he wife is expecting sex when he gets home, what can he do? He can use the "too tired" excuse only so long. And, ideally, he should wait even longer to have sex with her to see if HPV or HSV shows up, and continue to refrain for another couple of months and then go back for an HSV panel and HIV test. These are the risks.
So, I think my advice is quite logical and is based on actual medical practices. Again, he can test clean in Thailand but still come home with a bug, and the only way to ensure he does not bring back gonorrhea or Chlamydia is either refrain from sex for a week to see if a bug develops, or by taking a prophylactic treatment two days or so before having unprotected sew with someone else. My shitty advice could possibly save a marriage.
After spending 2 nights in Tokyo and 4 nights in Seoul, I arrived in Pattaya yesterday evening. Started with my usual, body massage at the place on soy honey. I thought their prices went up quite a bit. I don't remember exactly how much I paid a year ago, but I am sure it was much less than the 3K baht they were asking for their pricy girls. I went ahead and picked Tak, #51. I was pleased with the session, but there was no GFE. Covered BJ, no kissing, no DATY, but she had a banging body and was friendly. I am easy to please I guess.
This morning, I was planning to head to the beach but the rain nixed that. I ended up sitting in a coffee shop with my iPad on hand. Once the rain stopped, I went for a walk on beach road, and picked up my first FL, a 20-year old who had one baby, according to her, but she was fit and was fun in bed. Last night, I was pleased to see so many FLs on beach road.
After spending 2 nights in Tokyo and 4 nights in Seoul, I arrived in Pattaya yesterday evening. Started with my usual, body massage at the place on soy honey. I thought their prices went up quite a bit. I don't remember exactly how much I paid a year ago, but I am sure it was much less than the 3K baht they were asking for their pricy girls. I went ahead and picked Tak, #51. I was pleased with the session, but there was no GFE. Covered BJ, no kissing, no DATY, but she had a banging body and was friendly. I am easy to please I guess.
This morning, I was planning to head to the beach but the rain nixed that. I ended up sitting in a coffee shop with my iPad on hand. Once the rain stopped, I went for a walk on beach road, and picked up my first FL, a 20-year old who had one baby, according to her, but she was fit and was fun in bed. Last night, I was pleased to see so many FLs on beach road.You paid 3 k and there was no GFE. Covered BJ, no Kissing and no DATY. Exactly what part of the session were you pleased with? The part where she gave you 2500 of your money back? Thanks for giving her name and number.
PrinceMonger
04-22-15, 21:06
Here are the Profiles from DevilDen:
http://devilsdenthailand.com/profiles.html
If you use a Proxy or browse from Europe / USA then you can see the Services. Otherwise you click search, so you can see what Girl is doing A+ etc.Thanks Beno, that might have been easier, agreed!
PrinceMonger
04-22-15, 21:10
Nice report. Thanks for the info. Jane is cute, but with that attitude I think she is one to avoid.
I am not sure I see the logic of taking one girl LT from DD. At 3900 you can do MUCH better than the girls they have there. And get GFE to boot instead of the cold professional treatments of the girls there. For me DD is for acting out all your craziest fantasies with good performers. You take 2 girls and go through the Karma Sutra in 2 hours. Otherwise its not a good value.
Just MHO.
Stay horny my friend.
Uncle-V.Thanks Uncle-V. I agree that I perhaps spent too much on too little. I am not a big fan of ST. I like LT and pay higher. Having said that, I see your point in doing more for that kind of money. When I went there, I had no idea of how or what to do to be economically efficient. I should try these boards better the next time I go there.
Just out of curiosity, DD provides medical reports of these women et al. I am assuming, a cheaper option would be to walk along beach road, but is it safe compared to DD. How does one get a better JTW ratio?
WaitWutwtflol
04-22-15, 22:50
Pattaya vets, where should I hang out to find some Thai MILFs with a good size bum? Not too fat.
You paid 3 k and there was no GFE. Covered BJ, no Kissing and no DATY. Exactly what part of the session were you pleased with? The part where she gave you 2500 of your money back? Thanks for giving her name and number.To be fair to Lefeu, "Covered BJ, no Kissing and no DATY" is the standard in at the soapies in both Bangkok and Pattaya now. You only go there for pretty young girls, but it gets boring quickly.
You paid 3 k and there was no GFE. Covered BJ, no Kissing and no DATY. Exactly what part of the session were you pleased with? The part where she gave you 2500 of your money back? Thanks for giving her name and number.Yes, I gave her name and number so that other folks can spot her and avoid her, if they are like you.
As for me, it does not take much to please me. This girl was eye candy, IMO, and that was worth the price of admission. In addition, she was friendly, sweet, with good English, and I really had a good time with her, despite all her service shortcomings.
This was my trip #16 to Pattaya, since 2004, so I am not a newbie by any means. I've had quite a few sessions in Thailand and elsewhere, so I think I can distinguish between a fun session and a lousy one.
I started my 2nd day in Pattaya with another ritual, finding a free lancer. I found one on beach road early afternoon. She wanted 1K baht and I rarely negotiate the price, so I agreed to her price. My view is that if I need to negotiate a girl down, I might as well move on to the next one, especially in a place like Pattaya. I forgot her name but she was pleasant and I had a good time with her.
After a short nap, went out for a walk on beach road, and quickly spotted another cutie. I usually like to observe a girl for a while before pouncing. This girl was crossing beach road, so I jumped behind her and crossed with her, then followed her for a good 5 min. Later on, she told me that she noticed me following her and asked me why. Thank God I was not in the USA, who knows she may have called the cops, or call me on it. I explained to her my process for selecting a girl and she seemed pleased that I picked her. She asked for 800 baths, and I quickly accepted. She turned out to be much better than my earlier one. This one was definitely a keeper, so I took her coordinates. I definitely plan to see her again on this trip. I usually stumble onto these special girls towards the end of my stay, so I was pleased that I found a go-to-girl so early.
After a successful mongering day, I was now relaxed and ready to enjoy the rest of my day. Two sessions a day is what I usually aim for, given that I am up there in age. By 8 pm, I went out to eat and decided to go to Bon Chon chicken on beach road, to remember the lovely Korean girls I've met in my mongering life so far. Sure enough, the place was packed with Korean girls and couples. Luckily, the only table left was well located. I was able to eat chicken and enjoy the view of the Korean beauties there.
After finishing dinner, I moved on to my all time best GoGo, Baccara. I had many successes there, and met many wonderful Thai girls over the years. However, since the arrival of the Koreans and Chinese in recent yearis, it has become difficult. I did pick up a beautiful Thai last year, but she was quick to tell me that she normally goes only with Japanese customers. I was not sure what to make of that, but she turned out to be good in bed and I saw her a couple of times on that trip. This time no such luck, but I was mentally prepared since I had pretty much finished my daily mongering quota. I was ready to pounce just in case I found a special one. Baccara has not changed much; they had a good line up. I enjoyed watching the show while sipping on my beer, and spotted easily half a dozen cuties. Of course, none of them seem to notice I even existed. Within half an hour, all of them were taken by Korean men. The irony is that back in the USA We get Korean working girls by the boat load, and here we have to compete with their male counterpart for those sweet Thai girls, and the competition rules are so unfair, but that's life. Nobody said that life is fair.
By 10:30 pm, I was ready to move on and decided to check out my other old favorite, Happy A-GoGo. I was disappointed. The line up was underwhelming, and the place appeared to be in decay. It definitely needs a face lift. After finishing my beer, I headed to Airport. I had some luck at this club, as I was picked by a gorgeous chick last year. Unfortunately, I could not repeat with her because I could not find her again. The line up at Airport was just average, slightly better than Happy. While sipping my beer, I spotted a cutie. While I was debating whether to invite her for a drink, a Korean dude grabbed her, and that was the end of my night. I walked back to my hotel, thinking that I'd better stick to my FL diet. I still plan to visit the other, more famous, GoGo bars in the next few days. I may also visit the few that are down to earth.
To be fair to Lefeu, "Covered BJ, no Kissing and no DATY" is the standard in at the soapies in both Bangkok and Pattaya now. You only go there for pretty young girls, but it gets boring quickly.I guess that's why I avoid them. Not enough bang for the buck.
Uncle Volodya
04-23-15, 07:06
Thanks Uncle-V. I agree that I perhaps spent too much on too little. I am not a big fan of ST. I like LT and pay higher. Having said that, I see your point in doing more for that kind of money. When I went there, I had no idea of how or what to do to be economically efficient. I should try these boards better the next time I go there.
Just out of curiosity, DD provides medical reports of these women et al. I am assuming, a cheaper option would be to walk along beach road, but is it safe compared to DD. How does one get a better JTW ratio?Safe is a relative term. On BR I try to choose the less skanky looking girls and to keep my raincoat on.
My favorite option for LT girls is FLs from the clubs: Insomnia, Red Car, Marine, etc. This is my bread and butter while I am in Pattaya and I've found many amazing GFE girls there. But it takes a little effort and patience. Not as easy as just ordering form a menu like at DD. LOL.
I am off to Vietnam in a few weeks to check out the scene there and to hook up with a stunner I met in Shanghai a few months ago. It will be my first trip to VN. I can't wait.
But I'll be back for a month in Patts in August, It will be epic!
Stay horny my friend.
Uncle V.
Uncle Volodya
04-23-15, 07:07
Pattaya vets, where should I hang out to find some Thai MILFs with a good size bum? Not too fat.Beach Road and Red Car would be my guess. Your specifications aren't really what I look for though.
Uncle Volodya
04-23-15, 07:08
I guess that's why I avoid them. Not enough bang for the buck.Covered BJ is the standard as far as I know. But girls can be flexible on Kissing and DATY from my experience.
Wolvenvacht
04-23-15, 07:28
Pattaya vets, where should I hang out to find some Thai MILFs with a good size bum? Not too fat.Easy question, difficult to answer. I doubt whether there is an establishment that specializes in this (or any other) type of women. Most of the bars and clubs seem to have somewhat of a mixture of everything.
That being said, a few years ago I had some luck in a bar in Jomtien ("Country Roads" If I remember well), where the girls are (were) less of the skinny young spinner type and where I found a sweet MILFy type of lady with nice curves on top and bottom. She was relaxed, loved DATY, gave good BBBJ and more than pleased to stay LT and provide a GFE.
But that was years ago, so anybody's guess if she is still around.
Christian G
04-23-15, 08:01
Pattaya vets, where should I hang out to find some Thai MILFs with a good size bum? Not too fat.Bamboo, Beach Road, Beer Garden. If you have a motorbike you can also check bars in Dark Side area and try some Afternoon Bar in Jomtien.
Pattaya vets, where should I hang out to find some Thai MILFs with a good size bum? Not too fat.I think the Beergarden is a good starting point.
http://www.pattayabeergarden.com
WildBillLewis
04-23-15, 13:59
I started my 2nd day in Pattaya with another ritual, finding a free lancer. I found one on beach road early afternoon. She wanted 1K baht and I rarely negotiate the price, so I agreed to her price. My view is that if I need to negotiate a girl down, I might as well move on to the next one, especially in a place like Pattaya. I forgot her name but she was pleasant and I had a good time with her.
After a short nap, went out for a walk on beach road, and quickly spotted another cutie. I usually like to observe a girl for a while before pouncing. This girl was crossing beach road, so I jumped behind her and crossed with her, then followed her for a good 5 min. Later on, she told me that she noticed me following her and asked me why. Thank God I was not in the USA, who knows she may have called the cops, or call me on it. I explained to her my process for selecting a girl and she seemed pleased that I picked her. She asked for 800 baths, and I quickly accepted. She turned out to be much better than my earlier one. This one was definitely a keeper, so I took her coordinates. I definitely plan to see her again on this trip. I usually stumble onto these special girls towards the end of my stay, so I was pleased that I found a go-to-girl so early.
Good report. Looking forward to more!
Hello everyone,
After spending a lovely week in Pattaya I've decided to share my experience with you all. I arrived on the 14th in BKk and took a taxi to Pattaya with the group I was with. It's my 2nd time here and as for my group they are 3 frequent visitors, 4-5 times per year. So 2 of them had their usuals meet us at the airport to come stay with them in the hotel and me and my friend were solo.
Arrived in Pattaya by 2 pm checked in and changed and went down to enjoy Sungkran. After a couple of hours we went back to the hotel to shower and change for our first night.
My solo friend and I headed to a bar that we frequent last time before we start "hunting". Located in the walking street we are familiar with the mamasan, and she greets us. We have a few drinks. And then head to insomnia. As soon as we arrive we notice the ratio of male / female is very good. We find 2 nice looking girls 7 for me 8 for him and chat them up. By the first drink me and the girl, I. Are all over each other. We finish an intense night of clubbing and head back to the hotel. Great sex she flirts with me after my first shot. We go again till we both run out of breath. Then we sleep. In the middle of the night she wakes me up with a very nice HJ. I cum all over the place we go. Then back to sleep. We wake up in the morning and I call my friends to make plans for breakfast / brunch. I ask her if she would like to join she says no thanks. I give her 2000 baht for the great all night love and send her on her way. And head to meet my friends for breakfast.
After meeting up with the guys for lunch at a nice diner called kiss down on second road we head to the massage place where the gfs work to start our day in the Sungkran water fights. There I meet E. She tags along for the whole time and we flirt but nothing too serious. After a couple of hours her 2 friends approach me and tell me that she would like to join me. I accept and tell them to give her a call later at night. Turns out having friends who have 2 GFE girls staying with them come in handy.
At night we head to the bar in walking street again for a few drinks before heading to our usual spot, insomnia. This is where I see S. , S to me is one of the most beautiful girls I have ever seen I remember flirting with her the last time I was here and when I asked her if she would like me to Bar fine her she apologized and said she had her period. Anyway this girl has the power to memorize me. It's like I'm in love with her. I watch her for a bit dancing. Then the rest of the group arrives with E. The massage girl I met during the day. We head to insomnia.
As soon as we are seated at a table to accommodate us we spot the two girls from the night before. My friend takes the girl from the previous night and I have E. Tough luck I.
Anyway the night is great we dance flirt. Kiss feel each other up and then head back to the hotel.
E was such an animal in bed we did almost all sexual positions and she even attempted to do anal but I didn't fit in. Bummer.
Had great sex though. Hairy down there which was not to my liking. After my first shot she pulled out Her phone and began playing a game and asked me to play with her. Fun but not what I was interested in doing. Then she added me on FB. And back to some talking. We started kissing and things got hot and heavy again. But we ran out of breath before I came so she finished in off with a BJ COB.
Cleaned it off and went to bed.
In the morning we woke up and flirted for a bed then got a call from my friends to make our daily plans. Asked her to join for breakfast said she wanted to sleep and would like to go home. Gave her 1500 baht she was very grateful. And was on her way.
After sending E off I met my friends and we decided to repeat yesterday's morning activities.
Which I was still liking I was just falling in love with Sungkran.
At night we head to the usual bar again, where S. Mesmerized me once again but I'm too much of a coward to speak to her again. I don't know what happened I'm usually not like this but I guess everyone has their downs.
I day dream about what could have been and head off to insomnia for tonight's treat.
For the first time since I came to Pattaya I am not able to find a girl who seems willing to get picked up. Then coincidently I bump into I. Again from my first night.
She is upset specially that I blew her off the night before but after a few sweet words and kisses from my side she pretends to forgive me.
We kiss and are all over each other again.
This time in the hotel the sex is animal like but very mechanic. Still she is tight and has a few new moves.
We finish up and go to sleep.
We wake up the next day and take a quick shower together while massaging each other.
After showering with I. My friends call me and we decide to go to the beach down in jomtien for a change.
I ask I. To join with a hope that she might say yes seeing as everyone has a companion and she agrees on the way down I give her 2000 baht like the previous night incase she wants to leave and is only staying for the money. We go to the beach and enjoy the day in the lovely sun.
After finishing the beach we get into an open taxi to head back to the hotel. Then we are joined by this very hot girl. In the taxi who doesn't speak English and seemed to be heading to work. We are bombarded with some water due to Songkran. I decide to flirt with her and give her my tshirt to dry herself off.
I Tell my friends GF to ask her to join us in the hotel swimming pool but she refuses and says that we are already coupled with girls. So I ask her to take the girls number, her name is O. And say that I will call her later to meet up.
We arrive at the hotel. And I realize that I'm stuck with I. I tell my friend to pretend that we are going to the pharmacy and so kiss I. Good bye and run off. Very rude of me.
At night I ask one of my friends gfs to give O. A call and ask her to join me for a night out clubbing. O. Answers and says she would like to and that she likes me because I was sweet and gave her my tshirt to dry off. And that I am the first guy she meets in Pattaya and that she works at a bar on beach road and needs 500 baht bar fine + 2000 LT. Which I agree to.
We tell her to meet us at our usual bar in walking street at night.
At night we head to the bar, where again I see S. This time I'm upset I want her!
I remember that O. Is coming and say that I will leave it till the next night.
O arrives a little late but apologizes and is sincerely nice. We head to insomnia again. Fast forward to the sex.
This girl has the tightest pussy I have ever slept with amazing. It didn't take more than 3 minutes to explode. Only issue very hairy down there but smooth body.
We go again for a second time this time it takes much longer. She asks me if I would like to go without a condom which, big mistake, I agree. We fuck like rabbits till she says she's good and we go to sleep.
Because I didn't finish the second time I'm not very sleepy so she falls asleep first. Problem: she snores like a V8.
We wake up the next morning at 8 apparently she has to take her "meow meow" to the dr.
I don't really care I just want to sleep.
I give her her money and she says she would like to see me again tonight. " yea no chance tonight is the chosen night for S" I say to myself.
Yesterday, I started my day as usual, looking for a decent FL. No luck this time, the weather was good but the few FLs out there in the afternoon were just too MILFy for my taste. I am no spring chicken myself, but since I am paying I would like to indulge in juicy spring chicken. Went back out late afternoon and there were quite a few more this time around. It was easy finding one that I liked. She wanted 1K, fair enough, and she was pretty decent in bed. I was satisfied. Then, on to my favorite late afternoon activity, walking along the beach. I did it end-to-end a couple of times.
Around 8pm, I met up with 2 buddies who are long time residents in Pattaya. We headed to the Pattaya Beer Garden for a quick bite to eat. Afterwards, we decided to check out a few GoGos and I deferred to them. They decided to go to Heaven Above. The place was dead, and the line up was pretty pathetic. The girls looked bored and the atmosphere was depressing. What a shame that they could not run a decent business. After we finished our drinks, we headed to New Living Dolls. The line up was better here, but the girls and staff were pretty aggressive. They shoved onto us a couple of girls, who were pretty aggressive in requesting drinks. After the drinks bill started to add up, we decided to bail.
Next was Sensations, and what a sight! Ton of beautiful ladies, dressed to kill. I am not sure how one can complain about lack of talent. Sensations certainly had plenty of it. But, there was also an equivalent number of horny mongers. Hence, the place was packed and you can barely move. The staff and the girls were not aggressive at all. We definitely enjoyed sipping on our drinks and watching those beautiful ladies strut their stuff. I even got jealous at one point, watching a dude leave with a hot chick. That means I will be back.
After we regaled at Sensations, one of my buddy wanted to say Hi to a lady friend at Baby Dolls. This place was similar to Heaven Above, except there were a few expats there. It seems like management treats their customer better here. As we were in the process of sitting at our table, there were 2 girls already sitting there. One quickly vacated the table but the other one was slow. I ended up sitting next to her and offered her a drink. After we finished our drinks, we took off walking on beach road towards our respective lodging.
As we walked, I was surprised at the quality of the FL line up at that hour. I made a mental note to come back for my 2nd session of the day. Along the way, we lost one of our buddies, and kept on walking with the other buddy. As I got closer to my street, I noticed a lady walking along our side. She did not look too bad and I started to look closely at her. At one point, we were physically close to each other and I pounced. I found out quickly to my surprise that the lady did not speak a word of English. She was also shy, and my Thai is nothing to write home about. I still liked her and as soon as she flashed the number 1k baht on her phone, we had a deal. I turned around to look for my buddy and he was nowhere to be found. No problem since he lives here.
Ning followed me the rest of the way, without uttering a word to each other, only an occasional smile. After we were inside the room, luckily she knew the drill. I took a shower first then she followed. But, my biggest surprise was coming. This shy girl turned out to be a tiger in bed. After we got naked on the bed, her shyness seems to disappear. She immediately grabbed junior, who was just as happy being in her care. I also sprang into action by squeezing her body against mine, while she was continually stroking junior. After he came to full attention, she put it in her mouth and started playing with him. Her BBBJ was pretty decent.
I liked her body and her smooth milky skin, so my hands were all over her body. Anything was fine with this lady. My hands were roaming everywhere. I ended up interrupting her play as I wanted P2P pretty badly, given that she had given me the green light earlier. So, that was our next activity. She was lying on her back and me on top of her, miss position. It was only natural to add DFK to the mix. Man, can she DFK! Total PSE. I was like, who is this girl, where does she come from? After a while, I had to stop P2P. I was very close to stick it in bare but decided to play it safe. I was not even sure she would have allowed it anyhow, but I make a valiant effort to stay away from BB when I am with working girls.
I put a cap on and we went at it. Since she was an erotic, PSE, kisser, mish was the natural position to start. We went at it in mish with a passion, but being old and given that this is Pattaya, I knew there was no way I was going to bust a nut. I was having so much fun with her though, that I kept going until I collapsed exhausted on top of her. She was a very good sport, played along and made me feel like she was enjoying the ride as much as I did. After catching my breadth, I wanted to squeeze that lovely body next to mine, but she had other ideas. As I was lying on my back, she climbed on top of me and started riding me CG. I was in heaven, what a view! Soon she got tired and motioned that it was my turn. I obliged and we kept alternating a couple of times, until we both had enough. This would qualify as one of my all time best session.
I gave her a very generous tip, which triggered a big smile and an enthusiastic "kapun kaa! That made my day, my night, everything. The only thing left was when can I see this lady again.
Uncle Volodya
04-24-15, 07:19
I was just falling in love with Sungkran.
Fun report. Thanks for sharing.
I've never been there for Sonkrang. I guess its not as bad as some people let on. Looks like there are some nice opportunities to pick up girls off the street like you did the girl from the baht bus. Good job on that!
Looking forward to your posts!
Uncle-V.
After I sent off O. I realized that today was finally going to be the day I speak to S. And ask her to come with me. Today also happened to be the 18th which just so happens to be the day Sungkran lasts all day meaning even more fun for me.
We go about our day with my friends spraying water running around Pattaya. I don't remember the last time I hadthis much fun
Come night time we head back to the hotel for our afternoon nap and to change for the night Sungkran-ing and partying.
First stop walking street bar where S. Works everyone's having a great time. I go there call for S. To come over say Hi and directly go to asking her to join me for the night seeing as I was told by the mamasan that almost everyone in the bar knows I have a thing for S. Judging from the way I just gaze at her. Embarrassing.
She asks for 1000 baht bar fine seeing as it is Sungkran and 3000 baht for her LT. Which is too much by all means for anyone to pay. I refuse, heartbroken and offer 2000 instead of 3000 for her she declines. Well that's that. No S. The dream just died.
I decide to have a couple of beers at the bar when I notice a girl from the next bar flirting with me she throws a couple of water buckets at me I do the same we have a couple of laughs.
I go to her bar order her and her friend a drink and a beer for me.
We get down to talking business turns out she speaks no English. I'm just having a horrible day. But she seems nice I think. And we will have a great fuck.
I discuss price with mamasan. She says this girl, don't remember her name is 1000 baht bar fine due to Sungkran and 1500 for her LT. A bit more than what I'm used to but I wanted to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) S. Off by leaving with another girl so I accept.
As soon as we agree the mamasan tells me that she doesn't speak English because she's only been in Pattaya for a month and I am the first to take her. Even better news.
I ask her to come so we can head to insomnia with me she agrees. But turns out she doesn't have extra dry clothes. So I see her go speak to the mamasan. They run around for 5 minutes buy her a tshirt and a rain cover so she can come without getting wet from all the water.
I feel sorry for this girl to be honest she seemed innocent and unaware of how Pattaya rolls.
As soon as we arrive in insomnia she sits down refuses to dance, drink, smile or even stand up. After about 30 mins I get tired of her and tell one of my friends gfs to ask her to leave if she wants. Unsurprisingly she agrees but offers me to come back and collect the bar fine if I would like. I feel sorry for her so I say no thanks wave her good bye.
Now I am solo again.
I flirt around here and there and notice this very nice looking girl sitting on the table next to us. We share a few laughs but nothing develops. Damn it Pattaya I had become to sure of myself and didn't expect to not be able to get a girl.
Anyway I start to over drink and my friends keep pushing me to talk to several girls which I do but with no success, perhaps the heart break of 2 strikes shows on my face?
Anyway I get drunk later and forget about it all.
I dance with a couple of girls here and there but again nothing to report. Now I feel bad about myself. I lost all confidence I had gained the past few days. I had become cocky. Maybe I should've called O after all.
My friends call it a night and drag me home to the hotel with me drunk and single.
By now all my friends are having stay in girls and I'm still fluttering around looking for a new girl everyday. Maybe it was wrong but I'm here to party.
Anyway I refuse to go up to the hotel and tell them I'll take a walk alone to get the alcohol out of my system. I take a very long walk where I am met by this very hot girl. We say Hi and she says I come with you, it's 3 am I ask her how much she says 2000 I for some reason thought that was too much and said no. Idiot.
I walk back to the hotel and go to sleep feeling sorry for myself and what this night has made of me.
The next day I wake up feeling slightly sad and depressed about the previous night and strike outs. But this is Pattaya and Sungkran lets see what happens.
I meet up with my friends and we have a few laughs about the previous night. They tell me they wished I had found some one to come with me. I tell them that I got to drink and after I sent the bar girl back I felt like I didn't want to have any girls. Lying like a mother f'er.
We get ready for the final day of Sungkran but before we do we get a call that our flight is cancelled the next day and we'd spend one more night in Pattaya. Great news maybe I'd get better luck.
We run around the town stopping at the massage place where the two girls who joined our group the first day work and start having a few laughs with the other girls there. One is interested in me, perhaps things will change I think. I say thank you to her as she doesn't appeal to me that much in terms of looks. After about 30 mins I see T. A girl who doesn't work at the massage place but is friends with all the girls there.
I talk to her, perfect English.
I take her number and ask to see her at night she agrees.
Great, things are looking good again.
I go back to the hotel and ask my friend to call O. Just in case and ask her if she has plans. O. Is very excited and actually asks if she can come to meet me in the hotel now for an evening session before we go out. Of course I accept seeing that I am looking for a fast pick me up.
She comes to the hotel we fuck and have a great session.
She then asks me if she can go home to change because she wants to look good for when we go out. This girl is amazing.
It's 8 and she says she'll be in walking street waiting for me by 9 I laugh it off and say that she won't be there on time. I was wrong. Anyway I tell her not to go to walking street till I call her. Something gets lost in translation and she ends up going at 9 and calling me.
My friends and I are running late and we arrive at 10 and O. Is there waiting with a smile and apologizing for coming early. Apparently I have found a girl in Pattaya that is nicer than any girl I have ever met. There was no need to apologize for her coming early.
We go to insomnia again and have a great night. I see the girl from the previous night who was sitting on the next table we laugh again and smile but that's it.
On our way back to the hotel o. Tell me she has to go to Bangkok the next morning so she will leave but if I want she can come back for me at night.
We go back to the hotel. Have great sex as usual. She snores again keeps me up all night.
Leaves in morning. I'm very happy and finally sleep.
Pattaya just gave me a second chance and I'm happy again.
Red Dogger
04-25-15, 04:38
When I hire a girl who is only forty years younger than me, and has a few minor imperfections, she often seems happy to hang out with me, serve me, look after me, take care of my laundry, cuddle me and kiss me.
When I hire a girl who is forty five years younger than me, and has a perfect face and body, seems like she cannot stand me, can barely endure my touch, and would like to get it over with as soon as possible.
Gaming them as if they were regular girls helps, but it does not help a huge amount. Maybe I need better game. Paying extra generously does not help. They cannot control their visceral reactions.
After O. Left I went to sleep and woke up with a call from my friends asking me if ID like to catch a movie at Central festival and play some bowling. Which I agreed to. We had a nice time. Highly recommended if you have some time to kill.
While there I got a call from O. Asking if I'd like to meet up tonight. I told my friend to tell her that we might leave at night so that I can keep my options open for T. Who I met the day before and took her number.
Gave T a call she said she'd love to meet at night and I said ID call her around 9.
Come 9 we gathered as a group and head to another walking street bar that we are familiar with. I call T while we are on the way but no answer I start to feel tense. When we arrive I try one more time. She answers says she's stuck at work and will call me back. Probably not going to show up I guess.
I look around the bar for new talent but unfortunately there is only there very hot girl that I hooked up with the last time in Pattaya 9/10 looks but she's a starfish wouldn't kiss me until I went down on her and wouldn't return the favor until I had to ask her to do it directly.
So I said I'd wait till I get to insomnia and check my options.
This was my last night and I didn't want to leave anything to chance.
Arrived at insomnia found the girl who usually sits in the next table, by now it's 11 and I haven't received any calls from T. I decide to move on so I start to flirt with the girl on the next table hoping to finally hook up. She apologizes and says she's sleepy so no dancing. I laugh it off and a minute later o receive an sms from T apologizing saying she couldn't come and that we could meet the next day / morning before I leave.
So here I am again things starting to go down hill.
One of the group members was feeling generous and decided that he would make me the envy of every guy in insomnia he started to call over the go go dancers (very hot) give them 100 baht tips and ask them to give me lap dances and such.
It was the most fun I've had in insomnia during the past few days since my hiccup with trying to pick up a girls. Thy grinded with me kissed me groped me, basically everything but sex. Me being a child at heart started to tease and take my tongue out at the girl on the next table who immediately showed her jealousy and started to pinch my back while I was dancing with the gogos. Pinched my butt my back and even my chest at some point.
And I pinched her butt back.
After about 20 mins of being basically drowned in gogo girl love they excused themselves as it is their turn to take the stage and they will come back after theyre done.
I take this chance to buy the girl on the next table a drink which she enjoys and kisses me thank you. We take a photo together but that's it again. I decide that I will move on.
Take a look at my phone O. Has called me again. I decide to ignore her seeing as I'm already in too deep in insomnia to get her.
I decide to text I. From my first day to see if she's coming to insomnia, desperate times desperate measures. She says she's coming and will let me know when she arrives.
Anyway about 10 mins later someone slaps me on the ass I realize it I. I go after her but she says she's meeting a friend I say bye and go back to my friends.
I look around the place. Several girls looking over. I see this one specifically in red who a friend of mine had said she was hot when we walked in. I go over with a smile she smiles back. I introduce my self. Her name is M. No English again. Damn it!
But we kiss immediately. I buy her a beer and ask her to come join me on my table with my friends.
She agrees.
Again we kiss, I start to tease the girl on the next table and she starts to kick me and pinch me while I kiss M. Very exciting and very wrong ahahaha.
A friend of mine decides he will talk to the girl on the next table for me seeing as he feels she was just teasing me and would like to join me. She plays the same I'm sleepy game. He ignores her too.
Me still kissing M. And we are all over each other but this other girl just won't give up her hands are all over my back and Butt while I kiss M.
M. Noticed there is something and asks us if we know each other we both say no.
So M and I go back to kissing and the girl goes back to pinching me and teasing me.
After about an hour of this M goes to the bathroom I decide to take this chance and give it a shot with the girl on the next table who I've become infatuated with. I don't think anyone would disagree that this is very strange behavior from a Thai girl who's working a club at night.
Anyway she writes down half her number gets mixed up claims she's sleepy and can't focus and gives me her phone to write down my number. Which for sure I don't know as this is a temp Thai number. I ask my friends if I've called any of them on their numbers to get mine but no luck so I give her her phone back and M. Shows up so no luck. My friend calls it and says that if we stay any longer I'd lose screw it up. So we leave and I take M. Who is slightly drunk. I don't regret taking M. She had the hottest body I'd been with in Thailand.
Shaved and didn't look like she's been used up.
We go back to the hotel. Have a quick bite with our friends and head to the room. As soon as we get into the room it's like she's a freaking animal. We could hardly stop to shower.
We fucked on the floor, in the bathroom against the wall. Every single possible place you could imagine in the room. By far one of the top girls I've been with.
We finish up and go to bed.
First time I'm able to sleep relaxed next to a Thai girl.
Next morning we wake up have a quickie and she excuses herself knowing that I'd check out the room in an hour. Which was true. We kiss goodbye exchange numbers and promise to stay in touch. I give her 2000 baht.
I feel good I have no regrets.
I find a call from O. She called me in the morning while I was sleeping.
I check my phone and find a message from T asking me join her for shopping. Usually a big no no but I didn't mind but was too lazy to walk around in the heat. I apologize and say that I'm busy and that I would like to see her next time I'm in Pattaya she's not bothered and says ok.
I ask one of the girls to call her and apologize for me not answering since we couldn't communicate O tells her no worries and she was just calling to say bye and that she will miss me.
I take the phone and say I will miss her too and promise to call her next time I'm in town. U just don't find these type of nice working girls anymore. If u find one like her keep her for the whole trip if possible. BUT be sure that u can communicate.
And that's it.
Later on we head to the airport in BkK.
Thank you Pattaya.
I will share some cost, tips and details about my week in a next post.
Will be in Pattaya soon need a little help guys last time I spent long time walking up and down beach road. In Jomtien looking for Soi what boon as I knew that was where to find Winchester. Club but could not find it eventually asked motorbike taxi to take me well he must have been passed off at tourists fucking Thai birds cause he took me miles away and dropped me somewhere no motorbike or other taxis went took me 1 hour to get to where I could get next taxi anyway can anyone tell me of any landmarks on beach road inn Jomtien where Soi what bon starts it would be a great help.
Thanks guys.
WaitWutwtflol
04-26-15, 01:32
Man last time I completely ignored Insomnia, shame. Going to redeem myself and camp there this time. Thanks Moegy for sharing your report.
Will be in Pattaya soon need a little help guys last time I spent long time walking up and down beach road. In Jomtien looking for Soi what boon as I knew that was where to find Winchester. Club but could not find it eventually asked motorbike taxi to take me well he must have been passed off at tourists fucking Thai birds cause he took me miles away and dropped me somewhere no motorbike or other taxis went took me 1 hour to get to where I could get next taxi anyway can anyone tell me of any landmarks on beach road inn Jomtien where Soi what bon starts it would be a great help.
Thanks guys.Sorry about your misadventure. I suggest next time, to write down the address or map in a piece of paper, or better a card with their address in Thai. Never rely on simply giving an address in English. Those taxi drivers can be scumbags and they tend to be big liars. Think about it as the price of tuition. You learned something, albeit the hard way.
Man last time I completely ignored Insomnia, shame. Going to redeem myself and camp there this time. Thanks Moegy for sharing your report.Although insomnia is one of the best places to pick girls up, I suggest you go twice a week in ratio depending on your stay. The problem if you go every night is that there is always a 50/50 chance you go home alone. Unlike the beach road for example where the girls are actually looking for a customer on any given night in insomnia 40-60% rnt so it increases the chance of a bust.
Anyway it's up to you. There are some great catches though.
Uncle Volodya
04-26-15, 10:40
Although insomnia is one of the best places to pick girls up, I suggest you go twice a week in ratio depending on your stay. The problem if you go every night is that there is always a 50/50 chance you go home alone. Unlike the beach road for example where the girls are actually looking for a customer on any given night in insomnia 40-60% rnt so it increases the chance of a bust.
Anyway it's up to you. There are some great catches though.I think you are right about Insonmia not being a sure thing.
However, al the venues in Patts are so close to one another that its easy enough to pop into a few places over the course of the evening. Insominia and I-bar are always good for a quick look. If you don't have any luck then you can just move on.
Reiner Otto
04-26-15, 11:19
I knew that was where to find Winchester.
On Jomtien beach road, go to "Jomtien Palace Hotel". And then the street left, from the beach, until the next big crossing. Thre is Winchester, almost the corner, other side of crossing, left.
However, it was closed in October. Lack of customers?
You might also try "Red Car", beginning of Walking Street, left, after 24:00. Quite a few FL there, although not of the youngest type.
WildBillLewis
04-26-15, 14:42
Although insomnia is one of the best places to pick girls up, I suggest you go twice a week in ratio depending on your stay. The problem if you go every night is that there is always a 50/50 chance you go home alone. Unlike the beach road for example where the girls are actually looking for a customer on any given night in insomnia 40-60% rnt so it increases the chance of a bust.
Anyway it's up to you. There are some great catches though.I do love Insomnia. What red-blooded man wouldn't? It is jam packed with nubile Asian women dancing as though they were plucked straight from a rap video, almost all of them in their twenties, many of them dressed in the most revealing clothing, and most of them quite willing to part their legs if a man is willing to part with a little money.
That said, I would also recommend stopping in at The Pier. In Insomnia, as a general rule, you usually have to make the first move. Almost all of the women there are very approachable, but you still have to approach them. At The Pier (at least in my experience), they make the first move, usually with their eyes. It is a much smaller venue than Insomnia or Marine, but very close and, IMHO, well worth a look.
WaitWutwtflol
04-26-15, 14:52
Thank you fellow ISG bros for the Insomnia insight.
Prince0312
04-26-15, 15:56
I will be visiting Pattaya for a week on 14th May. I have heard reviews that Indians are restricted in few discos. Can any one let me know whether such restriction in Pier disco?
Mr Enternational
04-26-15, 18:01
Although insomnia is one of the best places to pick girls up, I suggest you go twice a week in ratio depending on your stay. The problem if you go every night is that there is always a 50/50 chance you go home alone. Unlike the beach road for example where the girls are actually looking for a customer on any given night in insomnia 40-60% rnt so it increases the chance of a bust.I'm not sure why you said there is a chance to go home alone. Like any other place in Pattaya, you go in, find a chick, make an agreement, and leave. No hard work nor uncertainties involved. And like someone else said, if you don't like what is happening there then move on to the next spot. It's not like if you step foot into one place then you are not allowed to go to any other place for the rest of the night.
Banana Boi
04-26-15, 18:14
Although insomnia is one of the best places to pick girls up,
Which other agogo's and discos have you been to, as a comparison?
I agree with Mr. E. If you don't see what you like, move on. These places are all free to walk in to and there are other discos, Marine, Pier, Lucifer, literally within steps from Insomnia, not to mention a ton of agogo clubs.
I'm not sure why you said there is a chance to go home alone. Like any other place in Pattaya, you go in, find a chick, make an agreement, and leave. No hard work nor uncertainties involved. And like someone else said, if you don't like what is happening there then move on to the next spot. It's not like if you step foot into one place then you are not allowed to go to any other place for the rest of the night.I completetly agree with you, however I'm talking that if you go to insomnia don't let the number / quality of girls suck you in so stay for the whole evening.
I have been to lucifer, marine and 808. Plus several a gogos on my prior trip and I have found that insomnia TO MY TASTE is the nicest place with the best music and the best girls which is the cherry on top. By no means am I saying it is the best I'm just saying I like it more. Personally I'm not much of a hopper, I did come to Pattaya for the girls but I don't chase them. I am to an extent limited to where my group would like to go seeing as we are all here to spend time together as friends as well. As a rule and I'm sure many would agree the difference between a bar (bar girl) and insomnia (FL) is that in the bar it is a deal but I have never discussed money in insomnia with any girl I give her what I feel she deserves the next day and have never gotten any complaints. If you read my posts some may feel that I have been generous with the girls but personally according to my calculations and how much I would have spend going to a gogos or bars vs insomnia I believe I have been spending more wisely.
Usually we go for bottle service in insomnia way more fun than a la carte order. Attracts the ladies too ;)
Big mistake to go on 19 April to Pattaya. They have some sort of Songkran extension, and they were even more crazy. The taxi took more than 2 h tours from the highway before entering Pattaya to Sai 2. Anyway, I had to walk from 2nd road to the Beachfront Hotel, but the water people were kind enough to spare my computer bag and baggage. At Beach Road the frenzy calmed down in the evening and I had a nice dinner at one of the shacks at the free space near Hard Rock. Later, I wanted to see one of my favs at My Friend You, but what decption, MFY was closed. So, I called it a night and went to Soi 3 to watch the German football matches.
Next morning, I took the songtaew to Pattaya Tai, and then another to Pattaya Tai, Soi 2 to head for the Telephone Bar. At about 10 am, I was the sole client and there were 4-5 ladies. One with big boobs struck me, and when she took off her top after the first LD, I could see and touch that they were naturals. So I did what I always wanted to do there, have a BJ at the bar and then lick her while she sat on the counter, the other ladies watching. To ease the position, Ploy suggested to move to the back room with the sofa. After showering, she started with a tender and slow BJ not neglecting the balls, then I tasted her pussy again and then we had boomboom in various positions. I think, the entire session took about 1 hour. I gave her 1. 200 with the promise of no more LDs and we sat for one more hour chatting and touching. I love this place! Bonus on the VIP-card was 80 be, will pay me one beer next time.
In the afternoon I wanted to visit Club 4 near the Love Inn. When I entered about 4 pm, all the ladies were busy. I waited a while refusing the company of an elderly lady, until a young girl came down followed by her customer who eventually left. To cut it short, this time like others too, the young and cute delivered very average or even below service. I rightly forgot her name. Worth mentioning are the nice rooms upstairs. And, I did not see real action down in the bar. The customers were hugging their companions, but not more, or was it only discreet? I'll stick to the Telephone Bar or the Carré Blanc.
The evening saw me at soi 6, My Friend You. Chomphoo holiday, Fah and Tukta gone, but Phong was there. One lady for GFE.
On Jomtien beach road, go to "Jomtien Palace Hotel". And then the street left, from the beach, until the next big crossing. Thre is Winchester, almost the corner, other side of crossing, left.
However, it was closed in October. Lack of customers?
You might also try "Red Car", beginning of Walking Street, left, after 24:00. Quite a few FL there, although not of the youngest type.Winchester was open in March 2015, I thought it was a reasonable place for a quiet afternoon drink. Girls OK but not amazing at that time.
IllusionHeart
04-28-15, 06:32
I will be visiting Pattaya for a week on 14th May. I have heard reviews that Indians are restricted in few discos. Can any one let me know whether such restriction in Pier disco?RED car, Pier and Mixx can we unwelcoming for Indians most of the times. Even 808 has a fluctuating policy regarding Indians.
Have heard toilet bar on second road mentioned a few times in member reports but can't recall ever seeing it. Can anyone tell me where it is on second road or any landmark near it on second road I will be in Pattaya in 2 weeks.
Thanks guys.
It is funny, as I prepare my trip to Pattaya and visit virtually with google maps I see a ton but a ton of caucasian men around 60 years old everywhere.You are incorrect! Those men are all the same age as you!
Fifty somethings. We call them! They are the pedicures to your manicures! . Haha!
So for some reason, the girls on beach last night seem to want to ask for 1000 be SHORT TIME They evidently would rather go hungry than accept 500.
I'm no newbie plus pood Thai dai but they don't know that.
I was told that tum rhuat (cops) do their round up about 1 AM but I didn't wait to see.
I'm utterly amazed at the sheer volume of girls working in Pattaya, so many to choose from, hardly know where to start. Its been a year since my last trip, luckily a beach road hottie's number is still working and she always jumps at the chance to come over during the afternoon heat wave. Gives you something to do until the sun goes down. I don't know how these newbies plan on only visiting for a couple of days, you really need that extra time to explore and find your own afternoon talent options. If not for the extra time to explore, then the extra time to get used to completely switching your sleep times.
So many girls and what looks like a limited amount of hobbiests. I'm at a hotel close to walking street and I'm guessing the hotel only has a handful of guests. a warning though to the 2 hour traffic jam on the way down here, make sure you bring plenty to drink on the ride down here.
Uncle Volodya
04-29-15, 07:29
I'm utterly amazed at the sheer volume of girls working in Pattaya, so many to choose from, hardly know where to start. Glad to hear that the reports of Pattaya's demise have been greatly exaggerated.
Hopefully the numbers will hold up till August, when I'll be there for a month.
Looking forward to your posts!
Uncle V.
Little let down with the daytime beer bars around soi 8, my old hotel grounds. Grabbed a massage from a hottie though that might prove to be worth the stop later in the trip (or not). But I was looking for a couple of girls from last trip, looks like their bar went under and they are gone to the wind. Did see some cuties being dropped off, just goes to show you they don't show until well after 8 pm.
p.s. for the price of a drink got me some nice grinds at the old windmill. not the best lookers but they make up for it in their dirty ways.
Personally walking street is where its at in pattaya. Having a hotel within walking distance allows you to save on short time hotels, taxi fares when barfining a girl but still have the cheap baht bus toll to get a girl back to your hotel without too much complication. And if you eat something super hot at one of the food carts, your hotel is a short walk away. But hey, have to try what the locals eat. Its also handy knowing you have a room closeby for a quick shower or for other reasons. If you need a pool, book a cheap hotel with a pool if that's the case as well as a cheap hotel near walking street.
People watching is what's happening before 8 pm, you'd see a few hot girls walking by and you'd think 'I should follow them to see where they go'. Then another couple head by in the opposite direction. Way too many to bother hunting for a specific girl.
Went into some of the smallest gogo's with few girls, feel bad when the staff look so excited for someone to welcome so I stay for a beer. Walked down the alley and ran into a gogo called sapphire. Man, that place was the opposite, tiny but packed with hot chicks. Hit insomnia last night with some buddies and ended up pulling a girl out of the place. Had a blast, so many hot girls you don't know what to do. Coming here just after tourist season seems to be the key, get the girls when its slow. Took a girl from a gogo and had way too much to drink and too much sex these last 3 days that I couldn't finish. The smoking hot chick whips off the condom and rides me bareback so she can get me hard again so she can cum. Amazing what these girls do when they're horny.
Standing under the walking street sign getting some fresh fruit and this indian woman asks me "which side is the beach on? I told her but thinking back it might have been safer for her to stay in her hotel room.
Struck gold today, 9 more days left in Pattaya and ran acorss a really hot 20 y 6 days new to Pattaya. Tight little body, first large size be's, great little ass and some good performance in the sack. Bit of a hairy Bush but I'm hoping when I take her long time (she agreed without asking for an amount) I'll be able to shave it off. I wanted to take her long time tonight but I'm just too fucked out, needed to sleep some before hitting the bars tonight.
I was in Patts two weeks ago. Soi 6 had tons of girls but the usual sifting process to find the gold. After looking at about 100 of them I would say, I found a tight bodied one with a slutty looking face. Just how I like them! Fantastic fluid emptying service, total price was 300 for the room, 1000 for the girl, 200 tip.
Bunch of buddies came into town and bought stuff off the street. One guy took a dose and passed out after his heart started racing, cold shower helped. Then his idiot buddy took another dose 2 days later and had to be assisted to the hospital. Risk your vacation on crap if you want.
SportMongr
05-02-15, 09:56
I was in Patts two weeks ago. Soi 6 had tons of girls but the usual sifting process to find the gold. After looking at about 100 of them I would say, I found a tight bodied one with a slutty looking face. Just how I like them! Fantastic fluid emptying service, total price was 300 for the room, 1000 for the girl, 200 tip.I have not been to Thailand in a few years. Planning on a July visit. Did tipping on soi 6 become the norm? Come on people? Tipping is not even part of the Thai culture. Stop it already. Unless she did an outstanding job of course and went beyond the call of duty. Absolutely stop.
SportMongr
05-02-15, 10:02
RED car, Pier and Mixx can we unwelcoming for Indians most of the times. Even 808 has a fluctuating policy regarding Indians.Is it because they smell bad? Or is it because they are cheap skates and probably never pay up in the morning?
Christian G
05-02-15, 12:45
I have not been to Thailand in a few years. Planning on a July visit. Did tipping on soi 6 become the norm? Come on people? Tipping is not even part of the Thai culture. Stop it already. Unless she did an outstanding job of course and went beyond the call of duty. Absolutely stop.I agree 100% with you. I never tipping in soi6.
Banana Boi
05-02-15, 14:02
Soi 6 annual party in a few weeks.
Gin And Tonic
05-02-15, 14:03
Is it because they smell bad? Or is it because they are cheap skates and probably never pay up in the morning?These places have no stake in freelancer's business. They do have a valid concern in non drink buying customers. It is for that reason I have been told in the past that they are kept out.
Fast Eddie 48
05-02-15, 18:58
Is it because they smell bad? Or is it because they are cheap skates and probably never pay up in the morning?To SportMongr.
They should just charge a cover charge like 200 bht included one drink that should stop all the cheapskate indian to look elsewhere.
Fast eddie 48.
Soi 6 annual party in a few weeks.Thanks for posting this.
The party will occur in the middle of my first visit to Thailand (Pattaya) and now, if nothing else, I can look forward to that too.
It's been twelve years since my last visit. Although I made annual pilgrimages to Thailand every year since I lived in Bangkok, for some reason I never visited Pattaya.
The sheer number of venues is overwhelming. There are so many gogos, beer bars, and freelancers you could spent a lifetime, and all your money, exploring it. I don't think soi LK Metro even existed last time I was here.
I wasn't even sure where to start. I figured Walking Street would be a good place, so I went there last night. The number of Chinese tourists in the street is ridiculous. I don't understand why they come here. Some guy randomly punched me in the stomach. One of the advantages of Angeles is that the only reason to go there is the girls, so you don't have to deal with tourists.
I visited quite a few bars. It's nice that many of them have cheap draft beer. There was a super hot totally naked dancer at Shark, but it was too early, so I moved on.
There are a number of lookers, but I seemed to be visiting bars for Japanese, where the girls are all dolled up, and don't give any attention. I wandered into Electric Blue. Some Japanese walked in, took a look, and walked right back out! There was a topless cutie there, and she was giving me some attention, so I bought my first drink of the night.
I employ a three strikes system when vetting bargirls. First strike was that she was from Sisaket, and I had just banged a girl from there. I'd prefer a different part of Isaan. Second strike was that she was 30. It's funny how back home I'd be all over a 30 year old for being so young. Here that is ancient. The final strike was her crazy 1,000 baht barfine.
I found a 23 year old cutie with no baby from Nong Kai at Crazy House. I took her to Insomnia, which I normally don't do, but it was my first night in town. That place is a donut fest! So many girls. The sex with her wasn't that great. Her barfine was 700, and she wanted 2,000/3,000ST / LT, making the price the same as Bangkok. I thought Pattaya was cheaper?
A weird episode leaving the disco at 3 am was when she said she wanted food, and demanded 1,000 baht. I refused. She stopped walking and did not look happy. She asked for 500, then 200. I offered to buy anything from the food carts, but she didn't want anything.
I should probably go after freelancers, which would be cheaper. But I can't get that Shark dancer out of my head.
Uncle Volodya
05-03-15, 18:07
Struck gold today, 9 more days left in Pattaya and ran acorss a really hot 20 y 6 days new to Pattaya. Tight little body, first large size be's, great little ass and some good performance in the sack. Bit of a hairy Bush but I'm hoping when I take her long time (she agreed without asking for an amount) I'll be able to shave it off. I wanted to take her long time tonight but I'm just too fucked out, needed to sleep some before hitting the bars tonight.Glad to hear you are having success. Where did you find your little gem?
Gin And Tonic
05-04-15, 04:02
To SportMongr.
They should just charge a cover charge like 200 bht included one drink that should stop all the cheapskate indian to look elsewhere.
Fast eddie 48.
That would = their 1/6 share of a B.R. beauty!
Red Dogger
05-04-15, 04:18
Gogo bars provide a super normal stimulus. There is a row of near naked, often naked chicks dancing for you, and you have two hot chicks snuggling up to you one on each arm, then you let go of one of them to pinch the bottom of the nearest dancer.
But, of course, it is a totally fake experience. The girls there are doing a job they hate for money, and they are just going through the motions of being friendly. When you get them to your place, they just want to get sex done as fast as possible with the least possible contact. You are unlikely to get the girlfriend experience.
The more an environment corresponds to the natural mating dance, for example, Insomnia, where you have to have the courage to hit on girls who are giving you no indication of friendliness or welcome, and then warm them up, the more likely you are to get the real girlfriend experience when you take them back to your place.
Bars are in-between, with faked friendliness, that can sometimes be warmed up into something better.
At 2 PM, in a newly opened bar, full of bar girls with absolutely no male customers, I saw an incredibly hot bar girl. So I rolled up, bought myself a real drink, and her a lady drink (lady drinks consist of sweetened tea, possibly with one drop of rotgut Thai spirits. The girls get part of the price paid back to them) and chatted her up, and found, to my great disappointment, that she could not be barfined. She was, she explained, too valuable to the bar. Which hinted that in the early hours of the morning after the bar closed.
So I wandered off, thinking nothing of it, but kept noticing that no bargirls compared to her. So a few hours later, around seven or so, I went back to her bar, still the only male customer, bought a bottle of beer, did not buy any lady drinks, and nursed my one beer for a couple of hours, chatting her up.
Now I am more than forty years older than her, and fat, while she was young, and looked like model, and spoke good English.
All my old skills came back to me, I pretended a deep interest in her boring life and intuitive understanding of her nonexistent personality, I told her tall tales of my allegedly thrilling and interesting life, while I kept touching her hands, her arms, and pulling strands of her hair.
Girls think that when we touch their extremities with our extremities, we do so because we get a sexual kick out of it. But our sexuality is more tightly focused than theirs. The skin of their extremities is erotically sensitive, but the skin of our extremities is not. The real reason we touch them is that we get a thrill out of their sexual reaction to our touch, which reaction they are seldom aware of.
After a while, it became obvious that she was thrilled by my touch, or at least thrilled by the touch of the man I pretended to be, a globe trotting adventurer, philanthropist, and polygamist. (Yes, I laid it on with a trowel, just like in the old days, only with a bigger trowel) So when I was pretty sure I had her in the bag, I finished up my very slowly consumed beer, and left.
Later that night, about three quarters of an hour before her bar was about to close, I returned, purchased another beer, and continued my performance till closing time, and then we went back to my place. The other girls made jests about my extremely prominent erection, which held up the front of shorts like a tent pole.
Total cost, three beers, one lady drink, and a lot of tall stories, for a great girl friend experience.
Available girls everywhere you look. You just get done with a cutie, know you can't go again for some time and you see 5 more in the span of 30 seconds that suite your tastes. Go down to soi 6, if you can't find a dozen pretty nice looking girls in that group of 300 or so lining the street you might want to get your eyes checked. Go down soi 8 at night and the surrounding streets and look at all those beer bars. Then you have various beer bars spread left and right. I've been here over a week and have yet to make it to soi metro.
So I barfine this cute little girl from Laos, no green card so we had to sneak past the front desk without stopping. I'm sure they've seen it many times and if you do get stopped by the staff you'll be told its your own risk. So I think I'm done for the night, hit my fav gogo bar sapphire. I just love sitting there with a huge 90 baht draft over those tiny little things other places offer and I just offer lady drinks and ballons to any hot girl who will give me non stop lap dances and let me grab away. But by being generous you can't just say "that's enough" when the bill reach's your set limit. Two hours of drinking using runs 200 bahts for me and 800 for the girls drinks with non stop groping and lap dancing. Worth it in my opinion just to kill time.
So I leave and head over to another gogo bar to look around and in walks two gogo girls given the night off at sapphire. One of them was drunk off her ass and since I like a challenge I paid for their drinks and mine and took the drunk girl back to my hotel. A night I'll surely remember, her tongue deep down my ass, me fucking her 5 times throughout the night, barely getting a wink of sleep. Waking up with a hard on and just giving it to her while she slept. Blow job to finish things off before she stumbled out the front of my hotel. 2000 baht long time given and not a barfine that had to be paid.
I then head off this morning to get my usual massage, grab a baht bus and head down towards soi 8. Traffic got backed up right by soi 13'ish (the couple BJ bars there as well). And I spy this cutie sitting in a row of average older looking women. So hit the buzzer and jump off the bus, walk over and she's 5 feet nothing with some nice natural be's (looking like see's, these women know how to make themselves look bigger). She had the touch, that light playful erotic massage that went on the entire hour. Two hand jobs, serious groping by me. Her butt was amazing and those tits so soft. I'd give her a 9 in looks and a 20 in score for her erotic massage. 280 baht for the massage (why not 300?) and a 300 baht tip for her service (also should note her finger traveled up the dark tunnel for a bit).
Being a first time poster, hope the vets go easy on me on this one.
The follow are some notes that may help any newbies to avoid some traps that I fell into on this trip. After RTFF and having been to LOS many times but never ventured into Pattaya, I decided a trip this time to have a look for myself at what all the talk was about.
Before even landing in LOS I realised that I had booked the Pattaya section starting at the end of Songkran in Pats (Apr 18) so effectively wasted 2 days before starting but decided to carry on as it was my own stupid fault. Had booked the taxi from DMK to Pats through Mr T and the driver was waiting for me with the sign at the airport as arranged. The driver was courteous and drove safely to the hotel despite having to navigate the Songkran traffic into Soi 8 so I paid her the 1200 Baht with a good tip. Hats off to Mr T for the excellent service.
It was a toss up between Areca and Flipper Lodge when I booked the hotels but decided on Flipper because it was slightly cheaper but made sure I was in the new section of the hotel. The staff at the front desk were friendly and got through the check-in process in quickly so time for a hopefully a scout around the area wrong. Was dripping wet within 10 m of leaving the front steps and this was to continue until Mon "Mai Pen Lai" you have to experience Songkran at least once in your life. Managed to find a place for dinner then back to one of the bars in Soi 8 for some beers.
The next day was wet again only worse because it was a full on water battle. Managed to get walk down to Walking St in the evening (Beach Rd closed to traffic) and have a look around there. Walked into FLB and bought a beer only a few of the staff were around but were mainly intent on talking amongst themselves and protecting the sound equipment from getting wet. Tried to strike a conversation with one of the staff but she seemed to be disinterested so finished my beer, paid the tab and left. Would I repeat. Probably "ha-sib ha-sib". This was to repeat many times if you read comments below. Decided to drop into the Beer Garden had dinner and got talking with one of the waitresses who was genuinely surprised that I was not what I looked like (Asian extraction born overseas with Falang values). She informed me that she expected PRC spending patterns based on my looks explaining the FLB experience (this was discussed in detail on previous postings). Decided that the Beer Garden was good to become my regular lunch haunt and as it turned out one of the better chill-out places I have found in Pats. To all the BM's. Please note that the wait staff at the Beer Garden are exactly that and should be treated with respect as you will receive the same plus more in return like any person. A good tip here is always appreciated so please be generous and respectful to the staff unless you want to destroy a good thing for yourself.
Mon was back to normality or at least for Pats. Beer Bar for lunch, hotel for a nap before dinner and then the evening events. Decided to have a look at some of the agogos so popped into Private Dancer holy mother of $ at you have to be half deaf to go into this place or at least like your music at 120 Db. I have been around rock bands most of my life but. I bought a beer had 2 swallows, paid the tab and left all within 2 minutes of the music starting up. Would I repeat no comment. Decided to got to have a look at the Friendliest Bar in Pats, Windmill. After finding the place, walked up the steps and asked if it was full, the bouncers slammed the door in my face so I left I guess false advertising is not a crime in LOS. The "what you look like" experience again from above. Next place of discovery was Soi LK Metro so down to Champagne via motorcycle. This was same same as most gogos in LOS and nothing special so off to Crystal. Walked into this place, saw one customer, no girls on stage, no music so did the 180 and left. I was getting depressed this stage so decided to do the bucket list thing at the Den. Without going into all the details I think I would repeat with some changes like knowing what you exactly want etc etc. David the manager was professional and the girls did their thing so all in all a win win.
Tues was going to be a low-key day so after lunch at the Beer Garden dinner at Robin's Nest decided to look into Showgirls. This was the normal LOS gogo but some real stunners (8-9) amongst the providers and friendly without being obvious that they wanted your Baht. Sat here bought a few beers and rounds but decided to chill for the evening so wandered around the corner to Peppermints and got half way down when I heard this rift from The Cave that stopped me in my tracks. Was invited in by one of the owners who was sitting outside and we sat there the whole night just drinking and enjoying the licks and the music from the live band. This is a rock bar (no pop or blues) just very good rock music to chill albeit some vocal short comings but the band will play from 2030 to 0030 without a break so tips to the band are well received and a round is appreciated. Another gem for those who love "live" rock music so BM's check this place if you are of similar mind. I will certainly be a repeat customer.
Wed was nearing the end of stay in Pats so the usual lunch at the Beer Garden and dinner in one of the many Thai restaurants along Beach Rd decided to pick-up another.
Provider after some beers at The Cave. This time the bands recognised me from last night and the owner introduced me to his business partner so after a few rounds and a good tip for the band I made my excuses and left. Wandered into the Office although I remembered a few postings about this place but the brain was not switched on or was it the beer. Anyhow was accosted by #95 (forgot the name) and had a few rounds before negotiating a LT deal. Got back to the hotel and after an hour she wanted to leave (I guess this is the expectation of 333 again of which I am not). Ended up paying with a small discount just to get her out of the room so BM's be warned of this one at the Office. I guess this is a risk we all take and will just put it down to experience.
Next day off to the airport and on the way home so that was Pats from the eyes of a newbie and the next time hopefully will be a lot more bouquets rather than brickbats.
Gogo bars provide a super normal stimulus. There is a row of near naked, often naked chicks dancing for you, and you have two hot chicks snuggling up to you one on each arm, then you let go of one of them to pinch the bottom of the nearest dancer.
But, of course, it is a totally fake experience. The girls there are doing a job they hate for money, and they are just going through the motions of being friendly. When you get them to your place, they just want to get sex done as fast as possible with the least possible contact. You are unlikely to get the girlfriend experience.......
Later that night, about three quarters of an hour before her bar was about to close, I returned, purchased another beer, and continued my performance till closing time, and then we went back to my place. The other girls made jests about my extremely prominent erection, which held up the front of shorts like a tent pole.
Total cost, three beers, one lady drink, and a lot of tall stories, for a great girl friend experience.It doesn't sound like much of a seduction, when the bar lady didn't even go to your hotel room with you.
I suppose, socializing like this can be fun too. But this kind of an experience would be too frustrating for me to enjoy.
The thing about a hot, nearly naked go-go lady faking it with you is that you can make it pretty real for her in the private room. The lady will let you massage her pussy and clit and play around with it. And if you are good at it, then you will make the lady orgasm. Which is pretty real, as far as making it real for the lady goes.
Having a well-lubricated hand on the lady's pussy and clit beats talking with her. Because you can feel the lady's clitoral erection pointing in your direction, when you massage her pussy and clit. This isn't something the lady can fake, because a woman can't fake her clitoral erection any more than a guy can fake his erection.
The woman's clitoral erection isn't as visible as that of the guy. But you can feel certain parts of her pussy get really hard, when you massage her pussy with the flat of your hand.
The only thing is that you need to be good at massaging the lady's pussy. If you aren't doing it well, then she might not get any clitoral erection. Which is the same as for a guy not getting an erection. The lady needs to be good with him.
Red Dogger
05-05-15, 06:31
It doesn't sound like much of a seduction, when the bar lady didn't even go to your hotel room with you.
I suppose, socializing like this can be fun too. But this kind of an experience would be too frustrating for me to enjoy...You misread. I said that when her bar closed, WE went back to my place.
PrinceRaj2126
05-05-15, 06:37
Can anyone post about contact of scooter rent providers in Pattaya?
I remember seeing some post on this couple of months ago, but unable to find it now.
If someone has contacts with rent charges reasonable, do post it.
Cheers
Being a first time poster, hope the vets go easy on me on this one.
The follow are some notes that may help any newbies to avoid some traps that I fell into on this trip. After RTFF and having been to LOS many times but never ventured into Pattaya, I decided a trip this time to have a look for myself at what all the talk was about.
Before even landing in LOS I realised that I had booked the Pattaya section starting at the end of Songkran in Pats (Apr 18) so effectively wasted 2 days before starting but decided to carry on as it was my own stupid fault. .There are those who love Songran. They include Thais but not all Thai people and even some Falang. But just as the planes coming to Thailand for "Water Festival" are full of tourists who are told about this bucket list experience (har-har! The planes leaving are also carrying many of expats who live at least some of the year in LOS. Vietnam or Cambodia were of my usual escape points and I once spent a very happy Songran in Indonesia. Laos and Burma practice water festival too with much water throwing but with less danger, at least that was the way it appeared when I used to live full-time in SE Asia.
There is not a lot you can do about looking Asian. But if you go to the parts of Thailand where there are still some mongering opportunities but less of the industrial vibe, I think you will avoid the issues with 333 and such nonsense. The secret is to get to know the ladies in quieter bars. That is, if bar ladies are what you are after. Even in Pats, you can go to the outlying bars where the music is not so loud and you can get to know the ladies.
An alternative is to go to the oily / massage places in places like Bangkok and other cities. Fixed prices, no nonsense. Personally, for bar ladies and FLs, I would go to the more quiet places. Hua Hin, for instance, or Ko Chang where the vibe is more easygoing and you can get to know the ladies first. And the ladies are less jaded and industrial in their outlook.
I will be in Pattaya 13 may can't wait have booked initially few nights in Sugar Sugar Soi LK metro anyone stay here before? Will visit. Soi 6 any fellow ISG members know good recent ladies there? Also I heard there is a Soi 6 party soon any ideas when? I hear there is bar complex called Blue Rahtree on Soi bukhao any ldea which end or how far from LK metro anyone been there? Is it with a visit? I will be in Pattaya from 13 may till 5 June any fellow members want drinking mongering. Company please give me cell phone number as I not get one till I get there look forward to some fun times.
Thanks
Can anyone post about contact of scooter rent providers in Pattaya?
I remember seeing some post on this couple of months ago, but unable to find it now.
If someone has contacts with rent charges reasonable, do post it.
CheersYes throw a stone and it will land on a scooter rental place. They are everywhere. If you rent short term, not much difference in the price from one to the other.
If you rent a scooter and ride it without a helmet, be prepared to be stopped on beach road by the police station. Sat in a bar next door and watched tourist after tourist being stopped, some even had helmets on and had to show paperwork. Amazingly no thai's pulled over, a motobike with an attached frame with there thai's all without helmets was stopped but just because the light went red and they didn't seem to be stopping. Cop let them go on after it went green.
There are those who love Songran. They include Thais but not all Thai people and even some Falang. But just as the planes coming to Thailand for "Water Festival" are full of tourists who are told about this bucket list experience (har-har! The planes leaving are also carrying many of expats who live at least some of the year in LOS. Vietnam or Cambodia were of my usual escape points and I once spent a very happy Songran in Indonesia. Laos and Burma practice water festival too with much water throwing but with less danger, at least that was the way it appeared when I used to live full-time in SE Asia.
There is not a lot you can do about looking Asian. But if you go to the parts of Thailand where there are still some mongering opportunities but less of the industrial vibe, I think you will avoid the issues with 333 and such nonsense. The secret is to get to know the ladies in quieter bars. That is, if bar ladies are what you are after. Even in Pats, you can go to the outlying bars where the music is not so loud and you can get to know the ladies.
An alternative is to go to the oily / massage places in places like Bangkok and other cities. Fixed prices, no nonsense. Personally, for bar ladies and FLs, I would go to the more quiet places. Hua Hin, for instance, or Ko Chang where the vibe is more easygoing and you can get to know the ladies first. And the ladies are less jaded and industrial in their outlook.Thanks for the comments Simian.
Loved the experience of SongKran but just once will suffice and points regarding the bars noted for the next time in Pats.
Gogo bars provide a super normal stimulus. There is a row of near naked, often naked chicks dancing for you, and you have two hot chicks snuggling up to you one on each arm, then you let go of one of them to pinch the bottom of the nearest dancer.
But, of course, it is a totally fake experience. The girls there are doing a job they hate for money, and they are just going through the motions of being friendly. When you get them to your place, they just want to get sex done as fast as possible with the least possible contact. You are unlikely to get the girlfriend experience.
The more an environment corresponds to the natural mating dance, for example, Insomnia, where you have to have the courage to hit on girls who are giving you no indication of friendliness or welcome, and then warm them up, the more likely you are to get the real girlfriend experience when you take them back to your place.
Bars are in-between, with faked friendliness, that can sometimes be warmed up into something better.
At 2 PM, in a newly opened bar, full of bar girls with absolutely no male customers, I saw an incredibly hot bar girl. So I rolled up, bought myself a real drink, and her a lady drink (lady drinks consist of sweetened tea, possibly with one drop of rotgut Thai spirits. The girls get part of the price paid back to them) and chatted her up, and found, to my great disappointment, that she could not be barfined. She was, she explained, too valuable to the bar. Which hinted that in the early hours of the morning after the bar closed.
So I wandered off, thinking nothing of it, but kept noticing that no bargirls compared to her. So a few hours later, around seven or so, I went back to her bar, still the only male customer, bought a bottle of beer, did not buy any lady drinks, and nursed my one beer for a couple of hours, chatting her up.
Now I am more than forty years older than her, and fat, while she was young, and looked like model, and spoke good English...Red Dogger,
You think your were playing her. But she is a a professional man manipulator. Her job is to make you think she likes you and get you to barfine her. You don't need pick up skills to pick up a hooker. They are a sure thing. But, I enjoyed your story.
Fresh from working in Chang Mai, I score anotherr Pattaya virgin on soi 6. Walking down the soi, knowing if I don't spot something my girl will be working towards the end of the strip. So I stop for a beer at a very open bar, open on 2 corners and sit upfront waiting for something to catch my eye. Didn't take all of 30 seconds but damb I bought a beer so had to finish it before walking over. Gave her the eye as I walked past her and she gave me a slap on the ass, contact has been made. Offe, red her a drink and before you know it her hand was on my johnson, game on. Took her upstairs and that's when the fun really started. Its well known on other boards that old breadman is a packing and some of these little thai spinners just aren't ready or willing to take such a ride. But damb if it wasnt' the other way around today, I got ridden for all that she could muster while screaming at the top of her lungs. Started off slowly, got her used to the size. About ten minutes later I started in on the hard rep's and then backing off, then sticking it in all the way very slowly, getting her used to the length.
So we are going away at it and I got her on her back, then grabbed her knee's and I stood up so I was a good 2 feet above her. Then started curling her up into my dick as much as she could take. Then backed off a bit, set her back down and the next position is hard to describe but imagine a girl going under a limbo stick while being fucked. Sorta like me almost sitting and her almost squating and then I rise up a bit so all that's supporting her is my dick going in and out (and my hands on her hips). Then its just pulling her into and pushing her away to get the rhythm going. Now we are at the halfway point, time to see if her reaction to the marathon is just a performance or is she really an athlete. Took her from limbo to on top by shooting my feet out under her and see if she can ride the stallion. And ride she did, even reverse twist on the dismount. Screaming all the way. I know the music on soi 6 is loud but can't help think someone outside and downstairs heard the commotion. She finished me off with a fantastic blow job, much better than at the start of the session.
Will repeat. And repeat. Will also miss my other girl down the soi.
You misread. I said that when her bar closed, WE went back to my place.You didn't say anything about having sex with her. And your accounting for the cost of it all didn't include you paying for the girl. Which implied to me that you didn't get to be intimate with the lady.
I find it hard to believe that one of the best-looking ladies in Pattaya would do it for free with you. It just doesn't work that way there. Because it's like an insult for the lady in question, according to Thai culture. You not paying her is like you taking advantage of her in a bad way.
Payment is so important for Thai ladies in terms of their self-respect and social status among others that they can even lie and exaggerate to their friends how much money the guy gave them for spending the night with them.
This much I gathered, when I was staying in rural Thailand. Because there they have P4P women too sleeping with Thai men. My lady asked some of these P4P ladies how much money Thai men give them. The price they said was about the same as farangs pay in Pattaya. But my lady had a hard time believing it, because Thai men in rural Thailand don't usually have this kind of money. She thought that these ladies were exaggerating to make themselves look good in front of others.
You didn't say anything about having sex with her. And your accounting for the cost of it all didn't include you paying for the girl. Which implied to me that you didn't get to be intimate with the lady.
I find it hard to believe that one of the best-looking ladies in Pattaya would do it for free with you. It just doesn't work that way there. Because it's like an insult for the lady in question, according to Thai culture. You not paying her is like you taking advantage of her in a bad way.
Payment is so important for Thai ladies in terms of their self-respect and social status among others that they can even lie and exaggerate to their friends how much money the guy gave them for spending the night with them.
This much I gathered, when I was staying in rural Thailand. Because there they have P4P women too sleeping with Thai men. My lady asked some of these P4P ladies how much money Thai men give them. The price they said was about the same as farangs pay in Pattaya. But my lady had a hard time believing it, because Thai men in rural Thailand don't usually have this kind of money. She thought that these ladies were exaggerating to make themselves look good in front of others.Really? I met a girl on skout, offered to buy her dinner and drinks, which I did. Took her to insomnia and mixx afterwards and then back to my hotel. The next day I gave her 100 baht for taxi (basically coming and going). And she's coming back tonight and probably tomorrow. I do plan on giving her 1000 baht and a few presents, plus another round of beers at Insomnia to losen her up.
Really? I met a girl on skout, offered to buy her dinner and drinks, which I did. Took her to insomnia and mixx afterwards and then back to my hotel. The next day I gave her 100 baht for taxi (basically coming and going). And she's coming back tonight and probably tomorrow. I do plan on giving her 1000 baht and a few presents, plus another round of beers at Insomnia to losen her up.When you meet a girl on the street and not at the bar or some other such place, then she might be desperate for money and any kind of help. If you are paying for her food and entertainment and give her a little money too, then this might be better for her than nothing at all.
But you not paying her as much as guys normally pay is simply you taking advantage of her. It's not something to be proud of.
Reiner Otto
05-06-15, 16:09
I do plan on giving her 1000 bahtThis I consider a daily rate for LT, plus expenses.
OnlyOneLife
05-06-15, 18:25
I have read mixed reviews about the way Thais treat Indians. Please throw some light! Is it true that some go go bars bar entry to Indians! This is really disgusting. I have more or less same living standard and income of a German or American middle class men. Sure enough I have 30/35 k Thai bahts to spend on the girls. Please advise should I go to Pattaya for a good time or should I look elsewhere?
I agree some of my countrymen are disgusting but good and mannered people surely outnumber them by huge numbers. Particularly now a days some Indians got huge money in their pocket just because of real estate boom but never learnt how to be a mannered guy!
I lived in Japan and Singapore and never faced any racial discrimination. So guys please advise here!
Also please share your experience of Indian dance bars in Pattaya!
Thanks in advance.
This I consider a daily rate for LT, plus expenses.What you consider and what you get quoted are probably in different ballparks. Good luck with getting LT for a thousand baht.
Red Dogger
05-06-15, 22:58
Red Dogger,
You think your were playing her. But she is a a professional man manipulator. Her job is to make you think she likes you and get you to barfine her. You don't need pick up skills to pick up a hooker. They are a sure thing. But, I enjoyed your story.But I did not barfine her. Would have if I could have, but since she knocked back a barfine after accepting a lady drink, I was reduced to more laborious methods.
Every other woman I had in Pattaya, I paid more than the going rate, or the going rate plus a large tip. This one was more difficult.
Red Dogger
05-07-15, 00:22
Red Dogger,
You think your were playing her. But she is a a professional man manipulator. Her job is to make you think she likes you and get you to barfine her. You don't need pick up skills to pick up a hooker. They are a sure thing. But, I enjoyed your story.I am sure she expected a generous tip, and I intended to tip her generously. But when my regular Thai holiday girlfriend turned up in the morning, and I was trying to get a threesome, she quietly slipped away.
Red Dogger,
You think your were playing her. But she is a a professional man manipulator. Her job is to make you think she likes you and get you to barfine her. You don't need pick up skills to pick up a hooker. They are a sure thing. But, I enjoyed your story.I think that Red Dogger would generally agree with you, but that was not the 'thrust' of his post!.
{S N I P}I returned, purchased another beer, and continued my performance till closing time, and then we went back to my place. {S N I P}
Total cost, three beers, one lady drink, and a lot of tall stories, for a great girl friend experience. His story was that he did not pay the bar fine, but still succeeded in getting a GFE with the WG.
So, the point you made may be generally correct, but is irrelevant: "You don't need pick up skills to pick up a hooker". But you do need skills to get a freebie GFE with a WG, (and perhaps also to comprehend some of the posts on ISG)!
BTW I am not saying that I agree with Red Dogger's ideas.
Reiner Otto
05-07-15, 11:07
What you consider and what you get quoted are probably in different ballparks. Good luck with getting LT for a thousand baht.Was my daily rate for my LT (28 yrs, 6-7), travelling with me to various islands in October, for 2 weeks.
But she charged the same for the first night only.
So, I do not need luck. Have good enough manners instead.
ArideeKrish
05-07-15, 18:19
I have read mixed reviews about the way Thais treat Indians. Please throw some light! Is it true that some go go bars bar entry to Indians! This is really disgusting. I have more or less same living standard and income of a German or American middle class men. Sure enough I have 30/35 k Thai bahts to spend on the girls. Please advise should I go to Pattaya for a good time or should I look elsewhere?
I agree some of my countrymen are disgusting but good and mannered people surely outnumber them by huge numbers. Particularly now a days some Indians got huge money in their pocket just because of real estate boom but never learnt how to be a mannered guy!
I lived in Japan and Singapore and never faced any racial discrimination. So guys please advise here!
Also please share your experience of Indian dance bars in Pattaya!
Thanks in advance.Hi bro,
It's true. Indians would be treated differently at Pattaya Been there a year back and felt not to go back to Pattaya again. We 3 friends had close to 100 k baht to spend but not a single go go in walking street gave us the entry. Our brothers have created this reputation believe me they have the capability to drink a 60 baht beer for a whole night in a go go and no wonder they don't let us in. I was just noticing a group if Indians haggling with a WG for 10 minutes and after some a Japanese came exchanged couple of words and they left together. In places where things are costly and you definitely have to spend money you'll not have any problems entering. Massage parlors. Clubs with entry fee.
I have read mixed reviews about the way Thais treat Indians. Please throw some light! Is it true that some go go bars bar entry to Indians! This is really disgusting. I have more or less same living standard and income of a German or American middle class men. Sure enough I have 30/35 k Thai bahts to spend on the girls. Please advise should I go to Pattaya for a good time or should I look elsewhere?
I agree some of my countrymen are disgusting but good and mannered people surely outnumber them by huge numbers. Particularly now a days some Indians got huge money in their pocket just because of real estate boom but never learnt how to be a mannered guy!
I lived in Japan and Singapore and never faced any racial discrimination. So guys please advise here!
From my observation, and from what bar girls have told me, they don't like Indian men who travel in packs. It's unsettling for them (bar girls) since Indian men have a reputation for non-consensual gang bangs.
IAmRamesh86
05-08-15, 08:03
I have been to Thailand like three times I had faced issue when I was traveling with my friend! If your an Indian solo traveling would be the best thing to do especially if you are in Thailand! Dress well present yourself learn to be polite smell good, wear your shoes and keep smiling, bottom line dress well as if your going to work or meet your GF and avoid Indians who come in packs I guarantee you won't face any discrimination issues! Last couple of times I traveled solo it was the more memorable trip ever I met few hot chicks only issues I faced was that I choose to stay in a two star hotel all the hottie I banged kept complaining and insist on moving to a better place I always shove my dick in their mouth when they keep complaining problem solved!
So good luck and in agoda.com some hotels in Pattaya and Bangkok deny booking if one have an Indian passport! So yes you are right we Indians are discriminated everywhere in fact I learned to live with it! If they don't like me I always smile and walk away some hot chicks I met in the bar and disc won't go with you if your an Indian so I always tell them I'm Arab good gracious lord I sometimes look like them!! So good luck!! Thailand is filled with beautiful angels sent from above to please horny men like us!
I have read mixed reviews about the way Thais treat Indians. Please throw some light! Is it true that some go go bars bar entry to Indians! This is really disgusting. I have more or less same living standard and income of a German or American middle class men. Sure enough I have 30/35 k Thai bahts to spend on the girls. Please advise should I go to Pattaya for a good time or should I look elsewhere?
I agree some of my countrymen are disgusting but good and mannered people surely outnumber them by huge numbers. Particularly now a days some Indians got huge money in their pocket just because of real estate boom but never learnt how to be a mannered guy!
I lived in Japan and Singapore and never faced any racial discrimination. So guys please advise here!
Also please share your experience of Indian dance bars in Pattaya!
Thanks in advance.
I have been to Thailand like three times I had faced issue when I was traveling with my friend! If your an Indian solo traveling would be the best thing to do especially if you are in Thailand! Dress well present yourself learn to be polite smell good, wear your shoes and keep smiling, bottom line dress well as if your going to work or meet your GF and avoid Indians who come in packs I guarantee you won't face any discrimination issues! Last couple of times I traveled solo it was the more memorable trip ever I met few hot chicks only issues I faced was that I choose to stay in a two star hotel all the hottie I banged kept complaining and insist on moving to a better place I always shove my dick in their mouth when they keep complaining problem solved!
So good luck and in agoda.com some hotels in Pattaya and Bangkok deny booking if one have an Indian passport! So yes you are right we Indians are discriminated everywhere in fact I learned to live with it! If they don't like me I always smile and walk away some hot chicks I met in the bar and disc won't go with you if your an Indian so I always tell them I'm Arab good gracious lord I sometimes look like them!! So good luck!! Thailand is filled with beautiful angels sent from above to please horny men like us!And that my friend, what you just said, is part of the reason Indians are descriminated against. The girls are not sent to please you they are there to make a living and you my friend and all of us are PAYING customers. A means to an end. Rule number 1) treat them like you treat a real woman.
They are definitely not sent anywhere for your pleasure.
Gin And Tonic
05-09-15, 06:58
And that my friend, what you just said, is part of the reason Indians are descriminated against. The girls are not sent to please you they are there to make a living and you my friend and all of us are PAYING customers. A means to an end. Rule number 1) treat them like you treat a real woman.
They are definitely not sent anywhere for your pleasure.Seen how they treat their women? Or the discrimanant treatment of so called lower classes?
Seen how they treat their women? Or the discrimanant treatment of so called lower classes?Agreed.
Bad example from my side.
My suggestion OnlyOneLife would be to try and hook up with a farang Anglo or local Thai wingman. Otherwise you have gotten good advice: Dress neatly, be polite, and avoid packs.
SL.
IAmRamesh86
05-09-15, 15:11
I think you are high I always treat my women right no matter where I'm I always pick up girls from the bar pros and non pros I consider women as the second most beautiful thing that God has ever created! And nothing is going to change that, in pattaya and Bangkok I met few girls who never demanded money to sleep with me! I consider myself very lucky to be with such beautiful women!
And that my friend, what you just said, is part of the reason Indians are descriminated against. The girls are not sent to please you they are there to make a living and you my friend and all of us are PAYING customers. A means to an end. Rule number 1) treat them like you treat a real woman.
They are definitely not sent anywhere for your pleasure.
I think you are high I always treat my women right no matter where I'm I always pick up girls from the bar pros and non pros I consider women as the second most beautiful thing that God has ever created! And nothing is going to change that, in pattaya and Bangkok I met few girls who never demanded money to sleep with me! I consider myself very lucky to be with such beautiful women!Great to hear. Thank you for the clarification.
Pattaya Report – Day 1, Arrival (May 9).
This report is a continuation of my initial Bangkok Report followed by my Phuket Report. Experienced Pattaya travels can skip this day's report. I did no mongering, and am only recording what I did upon leaving Phuket and some of my experiences, thoughts and observations on the evening of my arrival in Pattaya.
I checked out of the see&and hotel in Phuket at noon. I had them arrange transportation to get me to the airport for my Bangkok Airways trip to Pattaya (UTP). The cost was 700 be, and it took about 45 minutes. Flight 282 was to leave at 3:15, but it was delayed and didn't depart until about 4:30. UTP is pretty small, so deplaning was fast and it only took a few minutes for the luggage to appear.
One thing I was a bit concerned about was getting transportation into town. I had emailed my hotel to ask what they recommended, but never got a reply. Well, I should not have worried. After you collect your baggage, you go through the exit doors and to either side of you will be girls telling you to come get a taxi ticket for 250 be. They are not really taxi's, but mini-buses. They hold 9 or 10 passengers, and you simply tell the driver your hotel, then he drives to Pattaya and drops you off, one by one. Piece of cake. I think they also have regular taxis there that will take you directly to your hotel. Not sure what the taxi fare would be, but I read (but didn't confirm) it was set by law to 700 be. A taxi would be a bit faster unless you happen to be the first one off. I was the third stop, which wasn't bad, but with the late departure from Phuket, we arrived in Pattaya after dark in Saturday night, high congested traffic. Because of that, it took around 75 minutes to get to my hotel.
I chose to stay at the Dynasty Inn due to its central location and, perhaps most importantly, it is a non-smoking hotel. Also, it has been well reviewed here on the Pattaya Hotels board, e. G. Meaning it is girl friendly. I will note that on the hotel maps, the hotels seem like distinct entities easy to get to and identify, but in reality Pattaya, like Phuket and even Bangkok, is one continuation of structures with no open spacing. If there is a square foot of open space, it will be filled up. So I was totally disoriented when I arrived. The driving dropped me off and I was looking for the hotel. It was down an alley and I didn't see it at first! In fact, on the map, it appears that to get to the beach from the Dynasty Inn, one has to walk in a northern or southern direction, then turn on a side street and walk to the end. In actuality, you just exit the hotel, hang a left and walk a ways and you are there. Very easy, but don't forget the street (Soi 13 for me) or you can get lost.
Check in was easy and when I got to my room I was very pleasantly surprised. I will later report in the Pattaya Hotel review board more about it, but it has a real shower and it has drawers, so I was able to unpack! It does have that blasted magnetic dongle attached to the mechanical room key that removes power to the room when you leave, but at least the A / see cools the room quickly and you can control the speed of the fan. But still no wash cloths! What is up with that?!
Anyway, when unpacked, I headed out to get the lay of the land. I headed to Beach Road, which was very congested with motor vehicles and people. I turned towards Walking Street, which wasn't an unpleasant walk in the relative cool of the evening. I walked pretty much the entire length, taking it all in. I was saying "Wow, I am here" to myself, but becoming a bit overwhelmed. Phuket did not quite prepare me for the sheer magnitude of it all. And while Phuket had mostly open bars where the dancers were in full sight, all of that was now inside so only the girls out front trying to lure you inside were visible. And there were a lot. I nearly forgot about the Soi's (sidestreets), and after I turned back at the end, I randomly went down one. The street I chose was not busy at all, and I walked the entire length to, what, Second Street?, then turned back around. I let some guys hustle me inside one bar that looked promising as I was getting thirsty and was curious. It was small and there were 6 girls up on a small stage dancing (2 topless), and a few more sitting down, but I was the only guy there! I ordered a coke, but felt really self-conscious being the only one and really not wanting to bar fine anyone yet. Before I finish my coke, a girl sits next to me. She is pretty enough and I let her get a LD (185 be for whatever she got). He English was poor so it was difficult to talk. She drank half and asked if I wanted to dance. I declined, then she left to go to the stage and dance with the other girls! What's up with that? Aren't you allowed to skip your turn if a guy bought you a LD, especially when he is the only dude there? I was about the leave anyway, but I was a little upset at her leaving me to dance on the stage, so I paid my bill and left. Sheesh. Sorry, I don't know the name of the bar, so maybe I am wasting bandwidth mentioning it as the info can't help anyone. (If I go back by there I will get the name and post it so you can chose to avoid them if you wish.) As I was leaving, another guy stuck his head in, seeing nothing going on, left. I should have done that too I suppose. I don't want to sit and drink when I where the girl to guy ratio is 10:1 and I am expected to buy LDs. But, indeed, there were a couple of really good looking girls in there, and with the assumption they were available for take-out, may have given a good deal. But, it was barely past 9 PM, so the evening was young.
I was tired by this time and wasn't sure if I really felt like doing any mongering. A night of rest might do me good. I kept an open mind and decided to head back to my room buy walk on the beach side this time. There were quite a few obvious FLers out. Some were very cute, but there were LBs in the midst. One girl I was eying first spoke to guy in front of me, and sounded liked she might have been a he. Sure didn't look like a LB, but didn't quite sound like a girl either. A few girls eyed me and a couple said Hi, but none I found attractive enough.
I was tired and reasoned that I could shower and take a nap then head back out around midnight. However, I slept and didn't wake up until after 2 AM, which would have been ok probably to look for stragglers, but I was comfortable in my soft bed and didn't. Perhaps I should have, as after that I seemed to keep waking up every 15 minutes and was having some strange dreams. But that brings us to Day 2.
I will close day 1 with the observation that a few days in Phuket does not really prepare you for Pattaya. The situation is different. Phuket is small scale, but more intimate I would say. I mean, I won't be making friends with some of the girls standing in front of the bars, or sitting down and playing games with one of them. I won't be walking up and down Walking Street 10 times in the night. But, the potential here is so much greater. I am interested in how it will all turn out!
Cunnah Lingus
05-10-15, 08:07
I am so sick of walking into Go-Go bars that are nothing more than: Bikini Dancers, Fashion Shows, Coyote no-show no-go's! I can see much more and better even in America! The Prude Policia are ruining the Pussy Play-ground here!
So I found a few that still have some hot chicks, that still go full-nude, not just for scheduled show-time of dubious value! Not Just topless, but full-nude, what a concept for strip clubs!
Please no BS lectures of "its Illegal" s so is prostitution but, well you know what! Just please no unwanted and un-needed advice or opinions like I get on other T-land BS forums of boring arse Farang retirees here.
Just share the list here or one or more, or in a PM, would be greatly useful and appreciated! Thanks so much in advance! May the Saint & Guardian Angels of Mongering Maestros be with those who do!
Mucho Gracias! And Munch sum GUcchi. Good Luck, stay safe! Screw the Prudes killing this dream-land, trying to make it family and prude friendly, like Vegas did and died, the same will or is happening here!
I chose to stay at the Dynasty Inn due to its central location and, perhaps most importantly,
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But still no wash cloths! What is up with that?!Thanks for the nice report Hawk!
Glad to hear you chose the Dynasty Inn, one of my favorite hotels.
I've never seen wash cloths in any hotel in SE Asia. I always bring my own.
Wolvenvacht
05-10-15, 08:39
I consider women as the second most beautiful thing that God has ever created!OK, I'll bite. What is "the most beautiful thing"?
IAmRamesh86. Good come back, clearly some people responding have issues with Indians. Most likely without having met any.
I think you are high I always treat my women right no matter where I'm I always pick up girls from the bar pros and non pros I consider women as the second most beautiful thing that God has ever created! And nothing is going to change that, in pattaya and Bangkok I met few girls who never demanded money to sleep with me! I consider myself very lucky to be with such beautiful women!
IAmRamesh86. Good come back, clearly some people responding have issues with Indians. Most likely without having met any.It seems that you lack the sufficient comprehension skills to understand that this conversation has nothing to do with Indians and is more about how you look and treat these girls.
And trust me I've met enough Indians in pattaya to stereotype all I want. But I know that anyone from anywhere can be a douche bag.
I think if your looking for the playground fights forum you should visit the Disney forum or something.
Cheers.
Moegy. Good to hear. Thank you for the clarification.
It seems that you lack the sufficient comprehension skills to understand that this conversation has nothing to do with Indians and is more about how you look and treat these girls.
And trust me I've met enough Indians in pattaya to stereotype all I want. But I know that anyone from anywhere can be a douche bag.
I think if your looking for the playground fights forum you should visit the Disney forum or something.
Cheers.
Banana Boi
05-10-15, 17:27
Also please share your experience of Indian dance bars in Pattaya! Hope this helps. Tony's Disco on Walking Street.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klALmrhyDQI
Anyone know the name of this song? Too distorted for Shazam to trace.
ActionOriented
05-11-15, 03:35
Hope this helps. Tony's Disco on Walking Street.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klALmrhyDQI
Anyone know the name of this song? Too distorted for Shazam to trace.Haha, didn't think this kind of music would appeal to others.
Here's the youtube link to the song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdf5NofgGfU. Although I believe the OP was asking about the Indian dance bars in Pattaya and not Marine disco which is a "disco" frequented largely by Indian mongers.
Just for fun I checked out a couple of these "dance bars" located on 2nd Road and they were loud and not that much fun. I had to quickly make my exit after the first beer. Fully clothed, standard dancing and Indian music (loud) describe the scene. Best to avoid, and there are touts on beach road and 2nd Road who will approach Indian mongers to come visit their great "dance bar" but it is a waste of time. I can't comment on ST / LT.
Pattaya Day 2.
I woke up not really sure what time it was. For some reason, I kept waking up during the night, not sure why, to some strange dreams. When I finally decided to roll out of bed it was 9 AM. I decided a prime task I needed to accomplish was to get some laundry done. I could have the hotel do it, but they charge too much so my task was to continue to explore my surroundings while searching for a little Thai place to do my laundry. A secondary task was to exchange some more dollars for Bhats. A third task was to check out some massage place.
It took some exploring, but I found a couple of laundry places. The one I will use is on Soi 13/3, where I saw actual people ironing stuff. Two other places I saw just seemed to provide a service, where I presume they sent the clothes out to be done. This place seemed to do it right there on site, though all needed a full day to get the laundry returned. I forgot to take a copy of my passport with me, so I didn't exchange any money, though in Phuket they didn't ask me for my passport. In the airports, at least, they do.
In my walking around I stepped over the beach side of Beach Road, and a lady who looked to be 60 asked me for boom boom. Sheesh, who wants to boom boom a 60 year old? Oh, I am 60! Well, who wants to PAY to boom boom a 60 year old? Haha I think there were a few others FLers out, but I wasn't interested. I noticed tons of massage places nearby, a few with some not-too-bad women.
I went back to my hotel room, worked on the above part of this report, then headed back out, with a copy of my passport and my dirty laundry. I exchanged money but was having trouble finding 13/3. 13/1 and 13/2 were fine, then I walked and walked and no 13/3. Did I miss it? I turned around and came back to 13/2. Strange how the streets are named. Soi 13, then 13/1, then 13/2 close by, then walk forever and pass a few streets with no names, and still no 13/3? What the heck? I turned around and found a Chinese laundry place on 13/2 so I just dumped my laundry there. They said it would be ready late the next afternoon. Fine. (As it turns out, 13/3 was just a little further down, but the place I really had wanted to drop it off at was on 13/1, and not on 13/3 as I had thought! There was one on 13/3, but not the one I was thinking off. To make this entire comical matter more comical, when I came back from my rounds, right across the Soi from my hotel was a laundry place! I had waked miles trying to find a laundry place and I had failed to notice the one that was right in front of me!
With my laundry dumped off and money in my pocket, was getting hungry but wanted to continue to explore. I was interested in the oft mentioned massage places on Soi 6, where reports indicated lots of full service places. I walked on to Second Road and hailed one of those blue pickup truck taxis for 10 be. I was following the streets. Soi 9, then Soi 8, then Soi 7 so right before Soi 6 I rang the buzzer and got off. Well, I have no idea what the next street was but is wasn't Soi 6! I kept walking, and walking to I finally got there. Again, what is up with these roads? (Later checking Google Earth, I find that Soi 6 is nearly half a mile from Soi 7!) My feet were getting tired by the time I got to Soi 6, where I found not that many massage places afterall, but lots of bars with pretty women out front. Being one of the few men walking down the street, I was open game and got lots of calls to come in. Most all of the massages places were at the beach end of Soi 6. I turned around and a pretty girl calls to me so I decide to go over as she is one of the better looking ones. He name was Paula (English spelling) at Kiss Kool. Her English was ok and she quotes $1000 B. I am not sure what she was quoting, but I pay the fee and she takes inside up two treacherous flights of stairs into a warren of small rooms with beds. We strip, then handing me a towel she takes me to a shower having a toilet, and washes me well. The cool water feels great, and she washes the sweat off me. Back in the room, she asks if I have a condom. Oops, no. No problem, she has some. I lay down and she immediately starts a BBBJ. She does a good job. She is in between my legs and she looks up at me as she does her work. But, I prefer to have couple of minutes to talk to the girl and do a little touching, rather than just dive in like this. It is taking me a long time to come alive down there, even though she is using a good tongue technique. Part of the problem might be she is using her hand so that barely more than my head can enter her mouth, so I am not feeling the full effect. As I start to get a little hard, she also strokes me with her hand, which is helping, but she still isn't taking more than my head in her mouth. Her hand stroking is wearing her out, but I am finally hard and I suggest she put the condom on. She does but she has collapsed from a tired arm on her back and wants me to enter her missionary. I oblige. Paula is probably around 30, plus or minus 5 years. Very nice body, only slightly worn. Breasts are a hand full but just slightly sagging. I don't think she has had a child, so I think the slight sagginess is due to age and wear. So maybe she is older. So hard to tell, but she is slender and feels fairly tight and I am slowly working up to orgasm. But it is taking work. I have a pretty girl beneath me, but I am not really feeling it sexually. I grunt and groan to reach the big O, but I approach that point of no return, the old body is asking the old brain if I really want it this bad now, or do I want to wait for later? Hmmmm. Maybe I do want to wait. So, that quickly, I lose the feeling down there and I stop, collapsing next to her. She is disappointed and wonders what it wrong. Nothing wrong with her, I assure her. She ties to re-awake him, and she turns so I can enter her from behind as we lay on our sides, but it doesn't work as he goes limp. We lay touching either other and had things started off like this I probably could have made it. She is sad, but I am happy enough and have no regrets. I am thinking of the beautiful bar girl I will be banging later that night and cunning inside of. We dress, I tip her 100 B, and she asks I see her again, and if I did, I am sure the session would be better. But, while pretty and while she might make a great FL LT back at the hotel, I doubt I will see her again. Maybe, but for a first trip to Pattaya, quantity, not quality, is the name of the game.
After that I walked back to my hotel on the beach side of Beach Road. Not too many FLers out that I could tell. I did see one girl that I thought I might be willing to do, and she winked at me so I stopped, but up close the warning bells went off screaming Lady Boy! Wow. I mean, the girls that are nearly 6' tall are obvious LBs, but this one seemed just like an ordinary girl in stature, but the face was like a guy. I told her no thanks.
I stopped for lunch at McDonalds just south of the hotel. I wanted to get online, but I can't figure out how to use their WiFi. It was the same in Phuket. There is a code on your receipt, so I got onto their network and entered the code, but then it asks for a bunch of other information. OK, this seems to be standard in Thailand, though it gave me fits at BKK. It had also given me fits at a Burger King, but in both cases I made it work, but at McD's, it says I have an invalid mobile number! It was valid with BK and BKK and even UTP, so why is my valid number considered invalid with McDs? I try adding some digits and subtracting some digits, but nothing works. I guess I will go to BK next time.
Let me note that I understand why some guys stick with MPs and FLers. Paula was a good as some of the ladies in the bars, at least in Phuket, and I had her for 1000 B. I could probably go back now and get her LT after she gets off work for no more than 2000 B and get pretty close to a GFE (just a hunch on the GFE part). And, as I have discovered, in a dim bedroom, a girl's vagina feels pretty good regardless of her looks (though there are limits, of course).
Anyway, back to Walking Street around 10 PM. Being Sunday I hoped the street would be a little calmer, but it wasn't. I distinctly saw bus loads of mostly Chinese tourists being hauled in, consisting of couples and lots of old ladies. Not sure why they are coming, but hundreds of them just walking around, interfering in the serious business of mongering. But I am feeling out of place. I step into an open bar playing live music and buy a Coke and watch the people for a while. Then I leave and start walking and try to figure out want I need to do. Hungry, I take a break and go to the Beer Garden for a burger. Wasn't impressed.
I finally decide to take the plunge and go into Sensations. They clearly have the best set of girls out front and, inside, they have a whole boatload of mostly pretty girls up on two long stages with guys along both stages sitting and watching. The girls are in two rows and they slowly rotate around so you see all the girls during a set. Each girl has a wrist band with a number. I actually ordered a mixed drink, wondering if that might help loosen me up. I see a couple of girls I would really like to take home (9 and 989), but I am still not sure how the system works. I think I can point to the girl, or tell someone, but is she actually bar finable and how many LDs must I by and.? You experienced guys reading this must think I am pathetic. Two girls take an interest but they are not quite my type. After their set is over they stop by. One really wants me to buy her a drink but I refuse. I leave a little after that when a guy comes by and implies that I need to buy another drink or leave. I decide to try another bar. I will say Sensations had some hot numbers in there. At least 30 girls, with many 8 and 9's. After I learn to man up, I may not back and grab one of those beauties.
With some shame over my performance, I proceeded next to Crazy House. It was a similar setup. After being seated, I note a naked girl on top of a table. I guess that is part of their thing, as there is an open shower between seating areas where they can rinse off. A column blocked part of my view so I could never quite figure out what that was all about. But they have a bunch of hot women too. I was thinking about calling one over when one came over to sit next to me, Pimmy. Not exactly my type, but pretty close. We talked for a bit then she mentioned her throat was a little dry, code words for she wanted a drink. I asked if she wanted one, and the laughed and said she didn't want to come right out and ask for one. I laughed too, as it was obvious, but I do hate it when girls come right out and ask for one. We touched each other a little, then after a while she said she needed to go to the toilet. After a few minutes she had not come back and when I scanned the area for her, yep, she was in line dancing at the other end. Argh! OK, that's it. I started paying my bill. She may have seen me as when I look up she had advanced to the stage in front of me and makes indications that she wants me to stay, but no, I protest when the club makes girls get up on stage after a dude has bought them a drink. There is absolutely no reason, when a club has way more than enough girls to fill their stages, that one who is being treated by a dude cannot sit out the dances. I do think that had she stayed, I would have bar fined her.
I headed back home around 1:30 AM. Beach Road had a number of FLers out, but most were LBs. I eyed a few cute girls only to realize once they got close or spoke that they were LBs. Some of them are really good! One I had eyed came over to me and asked I where I was going. Realizing by then she was a he, I just said home and for him / her to have a good night. He blocked my way and touched me, asking why. I said no thanks and tried to walk around him then the dude puts a vice grip hold on my Johnson. I say "owww" and knock his hand aside and then put up my own hand in the universal sign of "keep your hands off of me or else". He finally backed off. I saw cute girl later, she said Hi, I sad, "are you a real girl", trying to funny, but she replied with "where are you going" and, again, she turned out to be a he. Sheesh. I saw a few more FLers who I thought for sure were girls (less pretty), but I was turned off by then and just returned to my hotel.
Day 2 didn't turn out of well. I had a nice massage with a nice girl, but Walking Street, for me, was being a disaster, though it was all due to my own sense of being overwhelmed and not fully understanding the system. I have three more nights here, so I think I will figure it out. This isn't rocket science. I mean, I just go into the bar, order a drink, spot a girl I would like, point her out to the ever attentive staff, she will come over, I buy her a drink, and I either bar fine or see her going back up on stage. Do I have that right? And if a girl other than what I am looking for comes over, I just decline to buy her a drink and she will leave, no hard feelings. What could be simpler? I hope you other newbies are learning from my craziness and won't be the sissy I am turning out to be.
This is where a wingman would be nice, but I think tonight I am going to finally take the plunge. And this afternoon, I will try a closer massage place. I do see from my iPhone app I have walked well over 10 miles in two days, so I am due for at least a foot massage.
I have read mixed reviews about the way Thais treat Indians. Please throw some light! Is it true that some go go bars bar entry to Indians! This is really disgusting. I have more or less same living standard and income of a German or American middle class men. Sure enough I have 30/35 k Thai bahts to spend on the girls. Please advise should I go to Pattaya for a good time or should I look elsewhere?
I agree some of my countrymen are disgusting but good and mannered people surely outnumber them by huge numbers. Particularly now a days some Indians got huge money in their pocket just because of real estate boom but never learnt how to be a mannered guy!
I lived in Japan and Singapore and never faced any racial discrimination. So guys please advise here!
Also please share your experience of Indian dance bars in Pattaya!
Thanks in advance.Onlyonelife,
I go to Pattaya every year. I do not know of any gogo bars that will not let Indians in. I do know that many Thai girls do not like to go with Indian men. Not because of the color of their skin. But because in Thailand Indian men are known for giving drama, being cheap and or ripping off Thai woman. Now as I am sure not all Indian men do this. I have personally been in Thai massage places many times where I am getting a massage and there is screaming and or drama not far from me. Because many times in Thailand rooms are covered with curtains and not actual walls unless you are at a soapy massage place. You can hear everything. When me and the girl peak out of the curtain to see what is going on. There is often an Indian guy refusing to pay or refusing to pay what was agreed upon. In Thailand it is usually pay after. In Thailand they do not like drama there.
Last year when I was there and I was talking with a very fun girl I shortimed. I asked her to tell me some crazy experiences she had with past customers. I really enjoyed hearing her story so I will tell it. She told me she never goes with Indian guys because there is always a problem. But, there was one Indian guy she made an exception for who was very handsome and looked very wealthy by the way he dressed. She figured he would not give her any problems. He was also staying at a very nice hotel. She went with him back to his hotel. After they finished sex. She took a shower and when she got out and dressed. He did pay but she noticed her I-phone was missing from her purse that she knows she had when she entered his room. She told him to give it back because she thought he went in her purse when she was in he shower. The Indian guy said he did not take it. She told him she would call the police. He thought she was buffing. Now you can not ever rip off a girl if she comes back to your hotel. She will call the police and you will deal with it at the police station. So anyway, she called the police and waited until they came. She told me the police searched the room and could not find anything until they opened his room safe. Her I-phone was locked in his room safe. Also, in his safe was around 50,000 baht or about $1500 USD. She spoke to the two cops in Thai so she told me she had the advantage. She told the cops this guy has 50,000 baht. Instead of taking him to the police station. I will offer him a deal. He gives me the 50,000 baht and I will not press charges against him. I will give you two officers 30,000 baht and just keep 20,000. Both officers agreed. So the officers told him she wants that 50,000 baht and she will not press charges or we will take you to the police station. Your passport will also be stamped for robbery in Thailand. He agreed to pay the money to the girl and the cops let him go. I guess its karma.
Pattaya Day 2. if a girl other than what I am looking for comes over, I just decline to buy her a drink and she will leave, no hard feelings. What could be simpler? I hope you other newbies are learning from my craziness and won't be the sissy I am turning out to be..Actually it happens quite often that the wrong girl is interested in the gogo and asks you for a drink, just ignore her request and ask her if she knows the girl you are interested in having a drink with. She will usually get that girl for you and that way you get rid of her at the same time.
However- drink or not they go up and dance when their turn is up. They will come back to you afterwards though.
Found two 'pretty new' cuties all the way down soi 6 (almost to beach road) sitting with a handful of equally cute girls, bar is on the left as you walk towards beach road. M and eyee are their names, eyee being more experienced and provides a BBBJ whereas M refuses any BJ at all. Both are super cute, M being a natural beauty. Managed to bang both although they are best friends and M had to confer with E about making 1000 baht off of me. Where E is wild in the sack, M was the complete opposite. Soi 6 provided several good girls on this last trip, making my selections almost 100% satisfying vs picking gogo girls who act wild in the club but become starfish in the room.
This is where a wingman would be nice, but I think tonight I am going to finally take the plunge. And this afternoon, I will try a closer massage place. I do see from my iPhone app I have walked well over 10 miles in two days, so I am due for at least a foot massage.Hey man great report. Sorry to see you not hitting it.
Let me assure you that a wingman is nice but it can also be a great burden.
I suggest you head to the walking street bars or to a disco if you can loosen up. Try insomnia (Ibar) downstairs is very chilled. You will be able to speak and dance a bit. A good view too if you manage to sit by the sea.
One more thing I suggest you be a bit more open to lady drinks as they are a great way to boost your confidence at the bars. In insomnia you are not charged lady drinks but you might have to buy the lady's friends a drink. Go for the 30 baht shots.
Happy hunting and looking for great reviews the remaining days.
Hey man great report. Sorry to see you not hitting it.
Let me assure you that a wingman is nice but it can also be a great burden.
I suggest you head to the walking street bars or to a disco if you can loosen up. Try insomnia (Ibar) downstairs is very chilled. You will be able to speak and dance a bit. A good view too if you manage to sit by the sea.
One more thing I suggest you be a bit more open to lady drinks as they are a great way to boost your confidence at the bars. In insomnia you are not charged lady drinks but you might have to buy the lady's friends a drink. Go for the 30 baht shots.
Happy hunting and looking for great reviews the remaining days.Thanks, Moegy. My plan for tonight is to try Insomnia. I was never good with disco's when younger, but worth a try here.
Though I am somewhat bombing out, I do learn from failure, so I think tonight will be the night! I did meet a German guy in a bar who offered to take me to WS and show me around, but as you said, a wingman can get in the way. And if I fail tonight, I may as well go back to Phuket.
I guess I need to research more about finding girls during the day. That is turning out to be a problem that is worse than I thought. Is it me or am I just looking in the wrong places? I thought I had done my research.
Where, really, are the FLers during the day, and what MPs have FS? I visited one today (which will be in my report) near Soi 13/2 on Second Street, and the most offered was a rub and tug. Are only the Soi 6's FS? I will experiment tomorrow with another Soi 13-area MP, but if I am wasting my time and need to go back to Soi 6, it would be nice to know.
Later, dudes!
ActionOriented
05-11-15, 14:05
...wrong places? I thought I had done my research.
Where, really, are the FLers during the day, and what MPs have FS? I visited one today (which will be in my report) near Soi 13/2 on Second Street, and the most offered was a rub and tug. Are only the Soi 6's FS? I will experiment tomorrow with another Soi 13-area MP, but if I am wasting my time and need to go back to Soi 6, it would be nice to know.
Later, dudes!FLs during the day? My guess would be that the good ones would be asleep since they party hard and get screwed for a better part of the morning.
No dearth of day time hot spots, RTFF.
Since you are on the ground and RTFF may be difficult, go try the MPs on soi Honey and soi Chaiyapoon.
Beer bars on soi 6, 7 and 8. Unlikely you will find FLs, mostly bar girls / MP girls. Beach road for FLs.
If you are into spending more, go to the soapies. It's difficult to imagine poon not being available at any time in Pattaya.
Thanks, Moegy. My plan for tonight is to try Insomnia. I was never good with disco's when younger, but worth a try here.
Though I am somewhat bombing out, I do learn from failure, so I think tonight will be the night! I did meet a German guy in a bar who offered to take me to WS and show me around, but as you said, a wingman can get in the way. And if I fail tonight, I may as well go back to Phuket.
I guess I need to research more about finding girls during the day. That is turning out to be a problem that is worse than I thought. Is it me or am I just looking in the wrong places? I thought I had done my research.
Where, really, are the FLers during the day, and what MPs have FS? I visited one today (which will be in my report) near Soi 13/2 on Second Street, and the most offered was a rub and tug. Are only the Soi 6's FS? I will experiment tomorrow with another Soi 13-area MP, but if I am wasting my time and need to go back to Soi 6, it would be nice to know.
Later, dudes!Last year when I was there, there were many free lancers at a bar at 8 AM still looking for companionship on a side street off Walking St. Old to young ones and 3-9 in quality. The bar is on the right hand side of the street after FLB and before Tony's disco and on the left hand on side of the same street is a large snooker place. Maybe someone else can give better direction and a name. Listen for the loud music and you should find it, if it still is doing its thing. Hope this helps a tad.
OnlyOneLife
05-11-15, 18:21
Onlyonelife,
I go to Pattaya every year. I do not know of any gogo bars that will not let Indians in. I do know that many Thai girls do not like to go with Indian men. Not because of the color of their skin. But because in Thailand Indian men are known for giving drama, being cheap and or ripping off Thai woman. Now as I am sure not all Indian men do this. I have personally been in Thai massage places many times where I am getting a massage and there is screaming and or drama not far from me. Because many times in Thailand rooms are covered with curtains and not actual walls unless you are at a soapy massage place. You can hear everything. When me and the girl peak out of the curtain to see what is going on. There is often an Indian guy refusing to pay or refusing to pay what was agreed upon. In Thailand it is usually pay after. In Thailand they do not like drama there.Thanks everybody for your advice. So Those Thais think Indians are filthy and Chinese and westerns are charming! I have absolutely no problem with any race on earth but) Only If one of those girls had any idea about world affairs, they would have known we Indians gave asylum to their religious leader Dalai Lama against Chinese aggression!
So far as the accusation goes that Indians act like a cheap charlie, I really wonder why? A beer in Mumbai Meera road dance bar costs 400 rs (around 200 baht). Prostitutes in Kolkata's sonagachi costs 4000 rs per hour (2000 baht). In Bangalore the cheapest prostitute costs 4500 (2250 Baht). Well I am just giving the rates of cheapest girls!
Well, I am adamant enough to accept that money is the problem for us! As accusation goes that some Indians gang [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) girls, I just wish law should take its course and they are punished!! Just because of some filthy scumbags we should not barred from the gate of heaven.
Banana Boi
05-11-15, 22:43
FL Hawk. Thanks for the highly entertaining "reviews". You really need to be assertive to get the best girls. This general rule applies no matter what country you hobby in. If you see a girl dancing on stage on the other side of the club, pick up your drink and move to where she is. Girls are truly flattered when guys do this. If she's not giving you the time of day after you do that, she isn't the right girl for you so move to another girl or another club. So much selection! Hope Day 3 went well.
What happened in Crazy House is likely the norm. If you liked the girl you really should have stayed with her. She could have easily went to the next guy to get a lady drink but she made a concerted effort to ask you to be with her. She can't be blamed for following club rules.
ConquerorVal
05-12-15, 01:47
Onlyonelife,
There is often an Indian guy refusing to pay or refusing to pay what was agreed upon. In Thailand it is usually pay after. In Thailand they do not like drama there.With all due respect, I would not call refusal to pay a drama. That is truly an understatement.
Well, I am adamant enough to accept that money is the problem for us! Your focusing on the wrong issue, it has nothing to do with money. I'm quoted 1000 baht short time and so are the next 50 guys of different nationalities. Has nothing to do what that 1000 baht will buy in my country. Has everything to do with how each nationality treats their women. If a Thai girl see's 50 men and every Indian man treats her like shit, she'll go out of her way to see men of other nationalities. She'll tell her friends her experiences which add to the negative view.
Question for OnlyOneLife and other Indians, have any of you ever agreed upon a price and then tipped the girl extra or asked her if she was hungry or thirsty before or after the deed? Or just paid her the agreed upon amount and moved on?
Your focusing on the wrong issue, it has nothing to do with money. I'm quoted 1000 baht short time and so are the next 50 guys of different nationalities. Has nothing to do what that 1000 baht will buy in my country. Has everything to do with how each nationality treats their women. If a Thai girl see's 50 men and every Indian man treats her like shit, she'll go out of her way to see men of other nationalities. She'll tell her friends her experiences which add to the negative view.
Question for OnlyOneLife and other Indians, have any of you ever agreed upon a price and then tipped the girl extra or asked her if she was hungry or thirsty before or after the deed? Or just paid her the agreed upon amount and moved on?They are there own worst enemy. Some of the conduct I have witnessed from their Indian Brethren, it's a wonder any of them can get a woman in Thailand or anywhere else in the world. Once a stereotype is made it is hard to change, especially when you have more Indians coming to Thailand reinforcing them. There your countrymen. When you see there negative conduct, you need to smack them in the chops and make them cut that bullshit out. You need to tell them that bullshit like that isn't tolerated and they are fucking it up for all of you. But you don't do that. You just watch them do it and then come to this board and complain about bigotry against indians.
I can remember one time I came back to my hotel with a wg and there were 4 Indians there having a loud discussion with a wg by the elevator. She wasn't the best looking girl, about a 6/10. Apparently one Indian had fished her back to the hotel and then at the elevator sprung on her the other 3. She was quite upset and looked scared out of her mind with the latest take it or leave it proposal. My wg then asked her what was going on. She replied that the first one agreed to 1000 and then at the hotel he told her she had to do all 4 of them for 1000. All 4 were hovering around her giving her the hard sell. "Same same as long time!" I could overhear them. She said she was in a big financial bind and needed the money but really didn't want to do this. Just for the hell of it along with some compassion for the girl, I gave my bg 1000 to give to her and to tell her to leave. She took off faster than a gazelle breaking loose of the jaws of death! The look on the 4 faces was priceless as the girl took off. It was like a pack of hyenas that were just watching their catch getting away. A few seconds later the elevator door opened up and we jumped in and I was laughing so hard all the way to my room. Priceless moment, I still chuckle at the thought of it.
I can remember one time I came back to my hotel with a wg and there were 4 Indians there having a loud discussion with a wg by the elevator. She wasn't the best looking girl, about a 6/10. Apparently one Indian had fished her back to the hotel and then at the elevator sprung on her the other 3. She was quite upset and scared with the latest take it or leave it proposal. My wg then asked her what was going on. She replied that the first one agreed to 1000 and then at the hotel he told her she had to do all 4 of them for 1000. All 4 were hovering around her giving her the hard sell. Same same as LT! She said she was in a big financial bind and needed the money but really didn't want to do this. Just for the hell of it along with some compassion for the girl, I gave my bg 1000 to give to her and to tell her to leave. She took off faster than a jack rabbit! The look on the 4 faces was priceless as the girl took off. It was like a pack of hyenas that were just watching their catch getting away. A few seconds later the elevator door opened up and we jumped in and I was laughing so hard all the way to my room. Priceless moment, I still chuckle at the thought of it.That's called Karma, you've earned it in spades. Hats off to you sir.
Gin And Tonic
05-12-15, 07:57
I can remember one time I came back to my hotel with a wg and there were 4 Indians there having a loud discussion with a wg by the elevator. She wasn't the best looking girl, about a 6/10. Apparently one Indian had fished her back to the hotel and then at the elevator sprung on her the other 3. She was quite upset and looked scared out of her mind with the latest take it or leave it proposal. My wg then asked her what was going on. She replied that the first one agreed to 1000 and then at the hotel he told her she had to do all 4 of them for 1000. All 4 were hovering around her giving her the hard sell. "Same same as long time!" I could overhear them. She said she was in a big financial bind and needed the money but really didn't want to do this. Just for the hell of it along with some compassion for the girl, I gave my bg 1000 to give to her and to tell her to leave. She took off faster than a gazelle breaking loose of the jaws of death! The look on the 4 faces was priceless as the girl took off. It was like a pack of hyenas that were just watching their catch getting away. A few seconds later the elevator door opened up and we jumped in and I was laughing so hard all the way to my room. Priceless moment, I still chuckle at the thought of it.Surely there are cheaper working girls in India. The brothels of Calcutta and all that. Can someone from there explain why so many travel here. Is it for reasons other than the women?
Red Dogger
05-12-15, 08:48
guess I need to research more about finding girls during the day. That is turning out to be a problem that is worse than I thought. Is it me or am I just looking in the wrong places? I thought I had done my research.From 3:00 AM to 2:00 PM, hard to find girls, though I found a great one at 8:00 AM once. I was just walking along and she jumped me.
From 2:00 PM to 6:00 PM, piles of hot girls in certain areas, not in others. If one bar has hot girls at 2 PM, so will most of the nearby bars. So one street full of girls, one street empty.
From 6:00 PM to 8:00 PM, girls almost everywhere.
From 8:00 PM to midnight, girls everywhere.
From Midnight to 3:00 AM, supply starts to diminish.
GoodEnough
05-12-15, 09:07
Surely there are cheaper working girls in India. The brothels of Calcutta and all that. Can someone from there explain why so many travel here. Is it for reasons other than the women?I once had to work for 6 months in India, and of the 56 countries that I've visited during my checkered career, it was my all tIme least favorite. In fact the best time I ever had was the day I left, knowing I would never have to set foot there again. I saw more sexual repression in that place than in any other country to which I've ever been. I hated every day that I spent there.
GE.
StaticCouch
05-12-15, 09:33
I can remember one time I came back to my hotel with a wg and there were 4 Indians there having a loud discussion with a wg by the elevator. She wasn't the best looking girl, about a 6/10. Apparently one Indian had fished her back to the hotel and then at the elevator sprung on her the other 3. She was quite upset and looked scared out of her mind with the latest take it or leave it proposal. My wg then asked her what was going on. She replied that the first one agreed to 1000 and then at the hotel he told her she had to do all 4 of them for 1000. All 4 were hovering around her giving her the hard sell. "Same same as long time!" I could overhear them. She said she was in a big financial bind and needed the money but really didn't want to do this. Just for the hell of it along with some compassion for the girl, I gave my bg 1000 to give to her and to tell her to leave. She took off faster than a gazelle breaking loose of the jaws of death! The look on the 4 faces was priceless as the girl took off. It was like a pack of hyenas that were just watching their catch getting away. A few seconds later the elevator door opened up and we jumped in and I was laughing so hard all the way to my room. Priceless moment, I still chuckle at the thought of it.I relate with your incident DG, I've never been to Pattaya and don't want to come there because of various reasons. Anyways, Its not about Pattaya but every where, I'm an Indian and sometimes the actions of fellow countrymen definitely create embarrassing situations! This happened on my last visit to Phuket, I was with my Russian crush and walking past L'mour on Patong Walking Street, one of the girl holding placard in front of the club was being hassled by 3 Indians, could make out by the look on her face & a loud "NO", generally the Guard would come to the rescue but nothing happened here (L'mour has this reputation of treating their girls bad), anyways I did not know what the conversation was happening but I was sure what they wanted, I told my girl to tell the other girl few slangs in Hindi and shoo them off, Instead mine went and shoo'ed the shit out of them with slangs (whatever she could manage) in our native language! The display girl was slightly taken aback but thanked for the sudden help. The guys were shocked and cursed me you are our brother and you do this! I told them if she said NO, why the fuck do you have to hassle her! Not out country to fight for a silly thing, they left cursing!
The problem is not the money as someone pointed out, I don't want to blow my horn but I probably would be spending more than a EU / NA / AU guy would be spending, my taste has changed from Thai to Russian though but important thing is to treat the women right no matter who she is! As someone pointed that do we (Indians) Tip / ask for water etc. Well. Sir. I can comment about my circle of friends who know how to treat women and we make sure they are treated right.
I faced this problem on my 1st visit to Phuket and was slightly shocked, but as I started to visit and people got to know me, They knew this is no cheap bullshit guy, they treat you right.
The damage has been done and I believe it will take lot more time to repair this.
Pattaya Report – Day 3.
The daylight part of Day 3 didn't go so well. I thought I would explore a MP (massage parlor) nearby rather than venture down to Soi 6. I visited a place on Second Road, found by walking down Soi 13/3 then turning left. It was the first MP right before a tattoo shop. The girl that called me, Kung, was reasonably attractive. A little chubby, but I was more interested in seeing what was available at the MPs near Soi 13 than so much the looks. I went for a full boy oil massage. She took me into an air conditioned back room that had a bunch of beds with curtains for semi-privacy. She had me strip down, but she stayed fully dressed, so I figured this was not going to be like the experience on Soi 6 the day before. As it turns out, I was right, and it was pretty much a standard AMP experience concluding with a rub and tug. Cost was 300 B for the massage, and I tipped her 200 B. Like yesterday, I chose not to cum, as the experience really wasn't good enough to waste a good cum for.
I continued to explore and decided to try out a bar. One had a pretty girl calling to me so I went over and ordered my Coke Zero. There was a German guy there and we started talking a bit. A semi-curt spinner came over and sat next to me. Not a FL, but a bar girl? She wasn't smiling and looked unhappy. Turns out she just had eyebrow tattoos done the day more, and she was in pain and it hurt to smile. I stayed for a long while, but even if she was bar-fineable, I would not want to spend time with a girl who couldn't smile or was afraid of having her face touched due to pain.
I retrieved my laundry from yesterday, came back to the hotel, and prepared another load to take out. I was going to drop it off at the place directly across for the hotel, but it was 5:30 and they said they could not process the laundry until the next morning, so it would not be ready for pickup until the day after tomorrow. I instead took it back to the place I used before on Soi 13/2, and it was no problem. Stopped at another bar down Soi 13 near the hotel. I had seen a woman sitting alone there earlier and she was still there, so I decided to stop and sit one seat away from her. She never glanced at me once, so I decided she was not looking for anyone and I left her alone. I suppose I should have at least said Hello, but the vibe I was getting said that would have been a waste of breath. I left quickly.
I stopped off at another small bar on either 13/2 I think. The girl I thought was pretty who called turned out to me was chubby, but friendly. I had another Coke Zero then left.
Went back to my hotel to rest. Headed out for Walking Street at 10 PM. While riding in the songthaew, I saw a gorgeous FLer on BR. Figures. Riding in the songthaew with me were two reasonably pretty Thai girls. I rang the buzzer to get off after BR turns at WS, and the girls hop off too. The traffic (dang Chinese tourists!) is bad and we three are trying to get across the street. I say something about how difficult it will be, but an opening is spied and one of the girls grabs my hand and we run across the street hand in hand. She asks if I am going to WS, and I say yes, and she says she has to go the other way now, almost leaving it open for us to meet later. I don't know if there was a hint there or not, and if so I missed it at the time, but I said goodbye and, no, I didn't see her again. But I had an omen with that meeting that this would be a good evening.
I will now try to compress events, and my memory may be failing in some areas, but here are the highlights as I remember them to be. I again walked around a lot, always looking for FLers, but only the LBs were out. I went to the Happy bar and found it nice. There was one really cute spinner I liked and would have bar fined her (was 700 be there), but apparently she had already been spoken for to another old man, for when her dance set was over she went straight to him. Bummer. I left, then tried Insomnia out. As I said yesterday, discos aren't really my thing, even when I was young, and certainly not when I am old. I really felt out of place and left after a drink. I went to Fahrenheit and one of the short, chunky greeters from outside latched on to me. Normally the greeters let go on you once inside, but not her. She was not a dancer, but she tried to get me to bar fine her. She had a pretty face, but her body was hardly what I wanted to pay for. She finally left me and another girl came over but, again, not quite my type. There really was only one girl I semi-liked, but I just decided to leave. Then I went to Living Dolls (I think – I could be wrong on this) and they had a great line up. A girl who was pretty cute saw me sit down and she and a friend came to sit and chat and, of course, ask for LDs. Well, fine. Another poster told me to loosen up with LDs (not as if money is an issue with me, I just hate spending money on booze in general). Then the girl from out front who brought me in, and who also danced and was very cute, got in on it and even one of the staff members got in on it. I don't mind the dancers so much, but staff members getting LDs? But the main girl was fun and was touching me, and after a second round of drinks for everyone I inquired with the staff girl about bar fines and what to do to take X (forget her name now) home. The bar fine was a whopping 1000 B! She asked if I wanted LT or ST, and I said either was possible, depending on what X wanted and how much. Later I talked to X and said I wanted to take her home. She asked if I wanted LT or ST. I asked her directly what she wanted (I knew young girls can get grossed out with old guys touching them, and if she was not comfortable with me for LT, I would understand). She replied she only likes to do ST. Fine. And she said something like "This may be a lot, but I want 3000 be for ST. " What?! Yikes. I am prepared to spend that kind of money on a real looker, but she was not THAT beautiful. Very pretty and with a great body, but she was no Victoria's Secret model. I said that was too much, hoping she might counter, but she didn't and I didn't try to counter either, as I assumed at that point she was mainly in this for the LDs and didn't really want to go home with me. If I gave her less and she accepted, the service would probably suffer as well. Even the fact it was getting very late and I might be her last chance to get bar fined, and with her knowing she was asking me for a lot of money, it just seemed I would not get good service. We sat together a while longer and touched, but then I said I should go and I left.
Sheesh, I am striking out again! It was around 2 AM and I considered going back to my hotel and making airline reservations to go back to Phuket! But, I decided to give it one more go and I ended up at Peppermint, where I earlier had seen two Indian men refused entry. I got in with no problems and there was an outstanding lineup of girls. One was a true babe in every sense of the world. Awesome body, a nice all natural rack, gorgeous face, long lead legs and bleached hair. She was No 8, but I rate her a 10. A stunner. She was sitting one girl over from me. I eyed her, she saw me, but didn't eye me back. Not good. She was busy talking with one of the male staff members topless. She soon goes up on stage to dance and I am drolling at her. She occasionally looks my way, but nothing to show she has much interest. At one of the other stages is a cute spinner. Awesome body as well, but with a top on. Smaller breasts and darker skin, standard Issan face, but she loves to dance. It is hard to catch her eye, but a few times she sees me and smiles a big smile. The way she was wiggling that little body was very sexy. I was torn between the two girls, thinking the spinner might be better in bed than the model. I finally inquire about bar fining with the lady supervisor. 700 be, and who do I want? I ask about the spinner. No, we are just about to close and she will be going home. What about 8? No, they are all about to go home, so come back tomorrow at 9. And, sure enough, the club was starting to shut down.
Sheesh! I am about to strike out in Pattaya three nights in a row! This has to be a first in Pattaya mongering history! I leave and walk around a little more looking for FLers. All I see are LBs. I do later see the spinner outside the club in jeans, and she looks pretty good. I consider stalking her to see about getting her as a FL. I mean, of course the bar will tell me the girls are all going home as they don't want their girls FLing, they want the customers to come back the next day for the bar fine they can collect. But the spinner keeps talking so I move on. Sigh. OK, defeat. I am going to be the biggest fool on this board ever. I head down to exit WS. I am just going to grab a songthaew and head home. So much for that omen earlier when I first arrived.
Then the Pattaya Gods decided to take pity one me.
Near the entrance, next to a food cart with an old lady, is a pretty girl standing alone. Lady boy? Nope. I almost walk past her but I smile and she returns the smile. I stop and say Hello, and she smiles and says Hi, and we start talking. She says this is her first night in Pattaya and she will soon start working in a bar on WS. I don't know which bar or what she will be doing. As we talk, the old lady is smiling and nodding at me, giving me encouragement. And one cue, another old lady selling roses sensing something going on and comes over so, of course, I have to buy my new friend some roses. She is happy and I finally get the nerve up to see if she wants to come with me for the night. She does. She takes my hand and we exit. She did ask how much I would give her, and if it was ST or LT. (She may be new to WS, but she knows what to do.) I said 1500 B, not differentiating between ST and LT, and she seemed very happy again with my answer. It was almost likes she was confirming in her own mind that coming to Pattaya to work for that kind of money was want she needed.
She was very shy, and it did seem like she was not experienced at this. I can believe she is new to this as she loved kissing, so it all was kind of romantic and super GFE at the beginning. She was a starfish in performance, but again I attribute that to shyness and newness than to hating my touch. In fact, when we were done, she cuddled up to me for warmth so, no, she was no repulsed by me. But while she was very passive, sometimes a man likes a passive woman, and at nearly 5 AM now, I liked her begin passive. They whole experience went slowly, like new lovers, where the girl is shy and letting her man take the lead.
After the action, she started to get dressed. I told her she could stay, and she decided she would. She slept until noon, and then she got up, very thankful for the money, gave me a long hug and left. Her performance was just want I needed. The parting was not so GFEish, but I am sure she had things to so and she may have felt some shame even. If she is going to be a bar girl, I kind of feel sorry. She was so sweet that it bothers me to know that soon enough some dudes are going to be abusing her, and she will become as jaded as the rest. Oh, her name is EMP (pronounced like the letter M). If you ever run across her, be nice.
I am a little spaced out today due to lack of sleep, so will take a nap before heading out for night 4. I have two more nights in Pattaya, and I am seriously considering going back to Peppermint (pretty sure that is the one) for 8. I would pay 3700 B for her. She would go for 3 to 4 times that amount in the US. But, regardless, I finally have some confidence and am starting to understand how the system works. I appreciate all the suggestions you guys are offering.
OnlyOneLife
05-12-15, 18:15
Your focusing on the wrong issue, it has nothing to do with money. I'm quoted 1000 baht short time and so are the next 50 guys of different nationalities. Has nothing to do what that 1000 baht will buy in my country. Has everything to do with how each nationality treats their women. If a Thai girl see's 50 men and every Indian man treats her like shit, she'll go out of her way to see men of other nationalities. She'll tell her friends her experiences which add to the negative view.
Question for OnlyOneLife and other Indians, have any of you ever agreed upon a price and then tipped the girl extra or asked her if she was hungry or thirsty before or after the deed? Or just paid her the agreed upon amount and moved on?I don't want to ruin this forum arguing over this nasty topic!! Thanks everybody for your advice and yes we do pay tips (At least I do)! Yes, its not just about paying tips, I personally treat every girl as my Lady! Well, as a globetrotter I know we as a race hate each other just because of political decisions of our leaders!! So I won't argue more and now I am more resolute to go to Pattaya and contribute to change the perception! Whatever an individual can do).
Surely there are cheaper working girls in India. The brothels of Calcutta and all that. Can someone from there explain why so many travel here. Is it for reasons other than the women?I love that you did that. You are a good man. I'd certainly done the same.
Pattaya Report Day 3.
I retrieved my laundry from yesterday, came back to the hotel, and prepared another load to take out. I was going to drop it off at the place directly across for the hotel, but it was 5:30 and they said they could not process the laundry until the next morning, so it would not be ready for pickup until the day after tomorrow. I instead took it back to the place I used before on Soi 13/2, and it was no problem.FL Hawk it's probably too late for you but this might help some others. I stay at Whitehouse, next door to Dynasty, and have found a laundry I like it a lot. Prices are very cheap. When you walk out the front door of the Dynasty Inn, turn to your left and walk towards Beach road. In less than one minute you will see a British Pub / restaurant on the left side of the soi with indoor and outdoor seating. There is a small entrance door next the the pub (just before it). Walk in the entrance way. On the right side of the hallway is a small, family run laundry. Check them out.
Gin And Tonic
05-13-15, 02:49
I don't want to ruin this forum arguing over this nasty topic!! Thanks everybody for your advice and yes we do pay tips (At least I do)! Yes, its not just about paying tips, I personally treat every girl as my Lady! Well, as a globetrotter I know we as a race hate each other just because of political decisions of our leaders!! So I won't argue more and now I am more resolute to go to Pattaya and contribute to change the perception! Whatever an individual can do).Good Luck to you Mr Gandhi.
Just a short observation after spending the majority of my time now in Pattaya. I find the Pattaya gogo bar scene to have better talent and at least on walking street a complete absence of ladyboy gogo's. You walk around Nana and some of the gogo bars are devoid of talent and there seems to be a large ladyboy presence. I'm not saying Pattaya is better overall in talent, its just that with Bangkok you've got to know your way around to find the true jems. What Bangkok has though over Pattaya are the talent in the soapies, just not sure if soapies are a big enough draw for me on future trips when Pattaya is just so much easier to get around.
Red Dogger
05-13-15, 08:52
Pattaya Report Day 3.
She never glanced at me once, so I decided she was not looking for anyone and I left her alone. I suppose I should have at least said Hello, but the vibe I was getting said that would have been a waste of breath. I left quickly.They are often the best girls. Shy girls often give the most enthusiastic sex and the best girl friend experience. If a girly in Pattaya is sitting in a bar, or hanging out in a disco, she is there for guys to hit on her. Hit on her. (Gogo bars are in some ways tougher, since the girls are more hard boiled. They like to have sex with half a dozen customers in rapid succession and then go home to their boyfriends and get some sleep. If you are looking for the GFE, harder to get it a gogo).
In a bar, first you buy a beer, and slip it slowly. You are the Lord of Creation, and have plenty of time to choose a girl at your leisure.
Then, having spent some time contemplating the various choices, at your comfortable leisure, you just tell the barkeep "lady drink for that girl", and she will come over and be friendly. In the highly unlikely event that this is going to fail, the barkeep will drop several broad hints that it is going to fail.
You talk, you make out for a little bit, you decide if you like this girl. Don't act like you made your mind up on sight, act like you are considering whether the girl is sufficiently pleasing, and you do not mind spending money and time to find out. Don't act like every baht hurts.
Act like you are the lord of creation and a big spender, and every girl in Pattaya is lining up to please you, and they probably will line up to please you. That is what they are there for.
Having eventually made your leisurely decision, you then ask can she be bar fined. Usually the answer is yes. If the answer is no, you can usually change her mind with a little time and effort, but unless she is the hottest thing you have seen, seldom worth the trouble.
Discos are similar, except you usually have to hit on her first and the barkeep will not give you warnings or guidance. You intrude into her space, and touch her lightly on the arm to bring her around to face you, then say "Hi". Then you ask if you can buy her a drink.
In a disco don't hang around near her thinking it over or waiting for her to give you the come on signal. This is likely to irritate her no end. March in and touch her, or don't. After you have spent some money on her, then you can take all the time in the world to think it over, leisurely nursing your beer, like the Lord of Creation that you are. After she has agreed for you to spend some money, then you can haughtily take your time deciding what to do.
Never act like you are trying to find a girl while expending the smallest possible amount of money. Nothing will irritate them more. You are supposed to take your own sweet time making up your mind, but supposed to spend money while doing so. If you are going to think about it, and you should, think about it after spending some money.
Red Dogger
05-13-15, 09:10
Then I went to Living Dolls (I think I could be wrong on this) and they had a great line up. A girl who was pretty cute saw me sit down and she and a friend came to sit and chat and, of course, ask for LDs. Well, fine. Another poster told me to loosen up with LDs (not as if money is an issue with me, I just hate spending money on booze in general). Then the girl from out front who brought me in, and who also danced and was very cute, got in on it and even one of the staff members got in on it...The girls are unimpressed by someone who appears to trying to pick up a girl without spending money, but neither are they impressed by someone who can be easily manipulated into spending money unnecessarily. They want the big spender, but not necessarily the idiot spender.
The only situation where I will buy two lady drinks at once is when I have a girl on each side of me and I am groping both of them.
Pattaya is really great. The gogos are full of hot girls. In a week I've banged a stunning naked dancer from Shark, a cute, but bitchy girl from Crazy house, a young beauty from Happy, a cute Hello, girl from Sugar Baby, and a voluptuous dancer from Suzy Wong that only wears glasses when she dances.
It's really expensive though, which probably explains why you don't see too many young guys. Being able to afford Pattaya requires a lifetime of working and saving!
Part of the problem is that because it's so expensive, I carefully select the prettiest girls. But those are the ones who ask more. It's a paradox!
Also, only one girl stuck around long time. I think the system in Angles works better, because the girls get all the money up front, so they all stick around long time. I think the girls here are afraid of getting stiffed, so they don't want to stay long. Repeating would probably solve that problem, but there are so many girls here, I can't focus!
Pattaya Report. Day 4.
I am finally getting things figure out and gaining some level of comfort here. About freaking time.
Stayed in bed until noon with EMP, then after she left, I worked on this report and then only did a cursory check, for FLers along BR. Ignoring LBs, there was not much in the area of Soi 13. So, basically, I did no afternoon mongering.
I left for WS around 8:30 PM, walking down BR on the ocean side. I did see more FLers (I will ignore LBs henceforth) out than before, and a few were attractive and if this was in the afternoon I might have stopped to talk, but in was nighttime and I was on my way to WS.
Upon arriving, the entrance was packed. Yes, more tour bus loads of Chinese being dropped off. They were forming their groups at the entrance and really making it harder for the rest of us to circumnavigate around them to get in. I mean, really, why are old ladies coming here? And moms?
Decided to check out a few more Agogos. Went into Airport Club. It is set up to sorta look like the inside cabin of a jet. In the middle is a spa (circular bath tub) and three girls were there naked and rinsing off. I don't really understand the purpose, but whatever. Several of the dancers on the stage were topless. There are stunningly attractive lading in blue bikinis running around serving shots, but I don't think they are available for takeout. There are around 30 girls working, but few are really all that attractive. There are a few 8's, but I am not overly impressed. I finish my drink and leave.
When back Living Dolls when one of the greeters remembered me. I don't remember her, but she and a friend grabs me and inside we go. I guess their modus operandi is to grab several girls and have the guys buy them all LDs. Happened yesterday and happened again today. They still have a nice lineup there. The girl that priced herself too high yesterday was there and came over to say Hi briefly. She went to sit down with her friend who she got me to also buy drinks for yesterday, occasionally glancing over my way. Did she regret not lowering her price? I am certain she did not get bar fined after I left, so possibly. My greeter was touching me all over and was playfully asking me to bar fine her. I said it was too expensive there. Plus, she was a little too plain-looking and too skinny for me. I like thin, but not skinny. I finished my drink and left. I always have a nice time in there with the multiple girls, but buy you pay for it!
Got harassed by the chubby girl from Fahrenheit. Twice as I walked by she came over and hugged me and tried to get me to go inside, even for a little bit. Of course, they get money from the LD they expect you to buy, but that was one of my least favorite bars so I wanted to stay away.
Next I went to – and I believe this is correct – Lighthouse. I will try to re-verify this, but I think that is correct. Anyway, it is a smaller bar but had some halfway decent girls. Not the best and not the worst. One of the dancers, Bell, sat next to me soon after I entered. She is fairly attractive. Really nice body with real curves, tight body, very tight abs, decent bolt-ones and a typical Issan face. Very pretty, but her face seemed a little bit worn. Mid 30's? Kind of looked to be in the late 20's, but could be late 30's for all I know. But she was warming up to be due to her personality, so why not try out an older lady? You guys say the older one generally provide a better experience, so why not try? She sold me when she said it was ok for guys to come to Thailand for sex, but don't fall in love with Thai bar girls! Haha.
So I decided I should bar fine this one. 700 B to the house (though some of the alleged hotter girls get 1000 B there she said) and 2000 B ST or 3000 LT. I go for ST. I pay the house fee and we leave. We leave WS and ignore the blue taxi trucks parked outside. We walk around the block to Second Street and the regular baht busses for 10 be are still operating. Advice: If leaving WS later in the evening, ignore the drivers parked near the entrance who want 200 B. Walk on around the corner and down a bit and, hopefully, you will find the regular blue trucks running for 10 B each.
Back the hotel, we talk a little, she showers me and we lay down next to each other in bed. I like the way we are taking things slow. Many of the youngsters just want to get down to business it seems, but she actually proceeded with some foreplay activity. I was at full on attention before she ever touched me down there, and her BB oral technique was amongst the best ever. She asked if I wanted to cum that way or screw. Obviously, I want to screw. She mounts me in cowboy and her skills and stamina as a dancer are in evidence. I let her ride me for a good long while. She is staying wet and seems to be enjoying the action. But after a long while, I am ready to get on top, and I can tell she is tiring and starting to dry out. I tell her to let me get on top and I lube up, then climb on. She starts bucking and moaning and I finish quickly, staying inside her for longer than most girls would allow. She is smiling, and really seems have enjoyed it all. We clean up and she dresses, but is in no great hurry to leave. It is after 2 AM by this point, so I doubt she is even planning to return to her club. But we hug and kiss several times before she finally makes it to the door and leaves. I did tell I wanted to visit Coral Island today, and she gave me hints before leaving. So I had a good time with this slightly more mature lady.
I will note the observation that after most ladies complete their task, I am happy for them to leave. I thought I might be sad to see Bell depart, but I was actually think of EMP when I crawled into bed. I had looked for her, not that I would repeat just yet, but she was a girl I was happy to have stay with me. She was a real sweet heart. I hope Pattaya doesn't chew her up.
But, yes, I finally bar fined a Pattary girl! Tomorrow I will go to Bangkok where I will have 3 days of mongering, before I will reconnect with my Thai GF for my last 4 days in Thailand. So, basically, I have 4 mongering days left. Need to make the most of it!
Banana Boi
05-13-15, 13:48
Also, only one girl stuck around long time. I think the system in Angles works better, because the girls get all the money up front, so they all stick around long time. I think the girls here are afraid of getting stiffed!Pay the money up front if you feel that will get better service and a longer stay.
Pattaya Report Day 3.
Then the Pattaya Gods decided to take pity one me.
I'm enjoying your posts! Thanks for sharing. And you're not alone. I've been to Pattaya a few times and it has always taken me a few days to get into my groove. I find that when I stay two weeks, my first week is okay (better than hanging out at home obviously), but the second week is amazing. This summer, I will be staying for three weeks and hope the Pattaya Gods are kind to me too! Again, thanks and I look forward to your future posts on the forum.
Red Dogger
05-14-15, 08:45
I notice a number of people visited discos in Pattaya, and felt really out of place. They waited for girls to give them the come on signal, and no girls gave them the come on signal.
Well of course they did not. If they gave you a come on, they would feel like the working girls they in fact are.
Here, based on very limited experience, is my impression of disco etiquette. If one of the regulars who has much more experience than me corrects my doubtless numerous errors, I would be grateful.
They are hos, pussy on legs. You are a wallet on legs. The gravest of all offenses against decorum is keeping a stony death grip on your wallet. You can be rude to the girls in all manner of ways, and they will lap it up, but you cannot act tightfisted. They will notice.
When you go into a disco, buy a beer. When you leave the disco, abandon that beer. You will need to buy a new beer every time you enter a new establishment. If you drink all your beers, will suffer brewers droop, if you hang on to your beer after leaving the disco, look tightfisted. If you are in the disco without a beer, look tightfisted.
Sip your beer slowly, one drop every few minutes. If you see a girl you like, do not stare at her thinking about it. Staring at her thinking about it, or staring at her while waiting for a come on that never comes can result in an embarrassing incident that will make you feel unwelcome, particularly if you might be mistaken for an Indian. Instead, act swiftly. Command her attention, by touching her lightly on the arm if necessary, and offer to buy her a drink. After you have spent money on her, then you can spend all the time in the wold thinking about it.
The absolute worst that can happen from hitting on a girl is that she politely says no in a friendly fashion. The absolute worst that can happen from standing around and not spending money can be quite embarrassing. While in the disco, spend money on girls. Do not wait for them to signal you to spend money on them. Your job is to signal the girl that you like in a straightforward and uncomplicated fashion that you want to spend money on her.
Pattaya Day 5 –.
Woke up and went to Coral Island. Not a bad boat trip, but it is a typical tourist trap and not all that interesting, for me at least. I might feel different if I had planned to go snorkeling. I got off the boat and walked down the pier, until I got to a why. Go left via a nice concrete walkway to the main beach. Go right to get to a smaller beach via a rickety wooden walkway. There were better photo opportunities at the smaller beach, so I took a deep breath and took my chances. That walkway, built over rocks below, is on the verge of becoming treacherous! Poorly engineered to begin with, some of the center supports are missing and nails are either missing or have pulled out, not to mention some of the planks are rotting! That walkway needs to be torn down and rebuilt!
Anyway, at about 4 PM I got back and decided to go back to Soi 6. I spied a cutie at the Rugby Bar, in the middle of the Soi. I smiled and she smiled back and I went over to her. Rugby is an average sized Soi bar, open to the street. She sits me down and I order my diet Coke. She is really cute. Spinner body, tight, very cute face. Practically a stunner. Her name is Noy. We talk for a while and I finally cut to the chase. Do you bar fine here? Yes, 300 be. Then I ask if she is interested in me? She smiles and nods her head. How much? 1000 B. Deal! Heck yes! I pay the fine and she leads me inside and up a flight of stairs to a room. The rooms there are really nice. No steep stairs or dark and dingy halls. It is all freshly done and the bedroom has its own toilet and shower with a flat screen TV. She turns on the fan and A / see and away we go.
Being so young (she wouldn't tell me her age, but sure looked to be early 20's) I felt it would be a wam-bam affair, but after the shower, she started kissing me with of LFK. Wow. She slowly worked her way to a BBBJ with some excellent technique. Not quite as good as Bell from last night, but good. I had forgotten to bring any of my super thin condoms, so we had to use one of hers. Bummer. She climbs on board and she is a tight one. She rides me for a while, moaning in the process. I roll her over for missionary and pound hard, bringing more moans. Then a quick switch to doggie for me to look at her fine figure, then back to missionary till completion.
To my surprise, after the deed is done she laid there with me for another 10 minutes, talking. She looked into my eyes, intently, with apparent affection for me, giving this more than a hint of a GFE. We kissed a little more then the hour was up and time to get dressed. We hugged and kissed goodbye. Few girls, after the deed, stick around like this and stare into your eyes, even in Pattaya. Never in the USA. This is what Pattaya is all about, guys. Super hot spinner, great sex and that loving look in the end. Sigh. Many of the girls at this bar are super cute, and if other Soi 6 bars are like this, I can understand why many Pattaya experts prefer to monger her. The whole Soi is this way. Unfortunately, there are LBs to contend with, but they were not pushy at least.
This was supposed to me my last night in Pattaya, but after this experience, I booked two more night here! What more can I find in Bangkok than I can't get here? I mean, I have now pretty much figured things out here and don't want to have to undergo another learning curve. Maybe the MPs are better in Bangkok, but I am quite happy with what I am finding the Pattaya.
I headed to WS about 9:30 PM. Lots of people are out tonight. I hit Ginza agogo. There are some cute girls in there but nothing special. A large percentage of them are very slightly overweight, but one or 2 are up to my standards. I don't talk to anyone, but feel I am being robbed to discover my diet Coke is 120 be. #61 is cute but won't look at me. I received a comment saying that Thai girls are often shy and the best ones in the sack are the ones who don't look at you. I guess if they look at a guy it makes them feel slutty. Well, we are in a WS bar. But I understand the shyness thing, and understand some of them like to be in denial about what they do and still pay hard to get. I won't let a girl not smiling at me not BF her, but I do like to know she has some interest before I waste anybody's time. I did at least make note of her (#61) and would have gone back if I did not find someone else worthy of my cash. And as I am discovering, there is nearly always someone better. Heck, you can choose a girl and be thrilled, then immediately see another one and start second guessing your decision!
I was considering heading to Peppermint to see if #8 was there – my all-time bar girl favorite thus far (even though I had not talked to her and she was one who shunned my looks a few nights earlier). But first I came across Infinity. I had not been in there yet, and I have been trying to visit different bars to see what they offered. I did not find infinity all that different from the average bar. Average girls, some more than just a pound or two overweight, but a couple of cute ones. In the back I saw what appeared to be a pretty girl in her super short school girl outfit dancing. She was not a skinny spinner, but shaped more like a grown woman, on the order of Bell from yesterday. But this girl was younger and her face looked different than the typical Issan girl, and her skin was much lighter in color and her hair was slightly colored a golden brown. I was still going to leave and probably head to Peppermint next, but this girl finished her dance and came over to sit with me. A staff lady immediately comes over, smiles and asks if I want to buy her a LD. Well, ok. We talked a while and I laugh when she said her name was Bull. What a name for a beautiful girl, Bull. Someone posted that if a bar attendant kinds of pushes you towards a particular girl, you should take the hint. Well, I followed that advice tonight. The attendant came over to ask me if I wanted to BF Bull. I asked the attendant was the bar fine was, which gets her all excited. 1000 BF (sheesh) plus 2000 be ST and 3000 be LT. Well, at least the girls aren't ripping you off too bad. I had not planned to BF Bull at that point. I was actually getting a data point on costs. But Bull was putting off a really good vibe. A girl selling shots came around and somehow I ended up buying Bull, the shot girl and her helper and the attendant all shots. Sigh. But oh well, it was written that these Thai girls love seeing a guy spend money. Why Thai girls think blowing money on alcohol is a good sign in a man I have no idea, when the biggest complaint they have about Thai men is they drink (and smoke) too much! I guess it is seeing a guy spending money on them is what they like.
But ok, I am liking Bull so I decided to BF her. I tell this to the attendant and she is all excited and asks if I want ST or LT. She recommends LT. I say I will do whichever Bull wants, so she asks Bull (who is dancing now – I have given up getting upset about girls you are buying LDs for having to dance) who says she wants LT. OK, LT with Bull it is.
Bull leaves the stage to get ready then comes out in shorts and a pretty while blouse. A fat, crude dude who had been sitting next to me smiles as he sees me with her. We exit the club to some cheers from her coworkers and walk down the street. I start to have some doubts. She is quiet, so maybe she was only being nice to get BFed. I ask if she is hungry. She asks to stop at a 7-11. Well, there is one just to the right of the exit to WS, so we go there. She picks out a packaged meal and a bottle of water. I pay, but it isn't much. We walk on around the corner and get on a Bhat bus. We don't talk much, but her English isn't all that great. Back at the hotel, she locks the door when she goes to the bathroom. Hmm, never had a girl actually lock the door. This can't be good. I said we needed to take showers. She told me to go first, and she turned on the TV. Hmmm. Not good. She is supposed to be in there with me, with us washing each other! Yikes. Infinity made me pay her fee before leaving. I am stuck! I knew I should have left and go to the Peppermint!
Oh well. I showered, then she went in. I was lying on my side in bed in some PJs when she came out wrapped in a towel. Normally we would be naked and get in bed together, but I didn't know about this girl. She smiled at me and then almost jumped into bed and moved over to me. I touched her then she loosened up and started some lengthy DFK. I had had some light FK, but never the deep toungue kissing! Wow. Most of my doubts about this girl vanished. She loved the DFK and we spent many, many minutes at it. I had to move my head away to stop it and to move on to other areas of her body. It was becoming almost a GFE when there is no rush to sex. Just touching and kissing. I felt fortunate to be with yet another girl giving of her emotional self like this.
I offered a massage and she nearly melted, telling me about a back injury she had when younger, etc. She said she could go to sleep and I laughed and said no, not yet. The only disappointment since she came to bed was she made no offer for a BJ. That did not seem to be on the table but, with a real GFE, sometimes they just don't want to do that. I like a good BJ, but don't miss them when not offered, so I didn't feel like forcing it. But I finally asked to break out the condom. She was juicy wet and quite tight. I started on top and we did that for a long time. I wanted to switch to spoon, but after that she went a little dry so I broke out some lube. I could tell she was tiring so back to missionary for the final act which brought moans from her. I stayed inside her for full minute without complaint, then withdrew. She was breathing hard and I joked that I was the one who had done all the work. Though this was close to a GFE, she really wasn't all that active, but she was continually touching me and caressing me, so she was not a starfish who just laid there like she was dead. It guess I would liken it to a GF who was a little tired and mainly wanted to kiss and touch, but was willing to please her man.
Anyway, I showered then she showed and she crawled in to bed with me. She was cold from the shower and she cuddled up next to me as we tried to sleep. I was concerned about her sleeping since she said she normally doesn't go to bed until 5 AM, but she thought she could sleep ok.
I guess she didn't, as at about 6 AM she wakes me and says she can't sleep so she is leaving. Uh, ok. I understand, but don't really know what the rules for LT are. I had not planned of having sex again with her that morning, but had expected her to stay until 9 AM or so. Guys, what are the rules or expectations of a LT stay? I am not upset with her really, but was a little depressed to see her go. Like EMP, she is one of the girls I want to stay and not leave.
I totally agree with you and last time when me and my friend were there, we booked couple of DD Girls. We took them to dinner and as they felt very tired we took them to a Massage parlor too. After the deed we gave them a good tip. Maybe we did our bit to change the perception and continue to do so in the future as well.
I don't want to ruin this forum arguing over this nasty topic!! Thanks everybody for your advice and yes we do pay tips (At least I do)! Yes, its not just about paying tips, I personally treat every girl as my Lady! Well, as a globetrotter I know we as a race hate each other just because of political decisions of our leaders!! So I won't argue more and now I am more resolute to go to Pattaya and contribute to change the perception! Whatever an individual can do).
Bro,
We three friends are planning to visit Pattaya early next month and our budget is 3,00,000 Baht for five days. After reading your post we are bit worried and any advice to make the trip a joyous one will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Hi bro,
It's true. Indians would be treated differently at Pattaya Been there a year back and felt not to go back to Pattaya again. We 3 friends had close to 100 k baht to spend but not a single go go in walking street gave us the entry. Our brothers have created this reputation believe me they have the capability to drink a 60 baht beer for a whole night in a go go and no wonder they don't let us in. I was just noticing a group if Indians haggling with a WG for 10 minutes and after some a Japanese came exchanged couple of words and they left together. In places where things are costly and you definitely have to spend money you'll not have any problems entering. Massage parlors. Clubs with entry fee.
Pattaya Day 6.
I slept fitfully after Bull left, until 10 AM. A nice thing about the Dynasty is the curtains are heavy and little light gets in, so you can sleep late if you want. At the see&and in Phuket, this was not the case very hard to sleep past 8 AM. But I woke up tired and feeling a bit spaced out. I go dressed, wrote part of this report, then stumbled over to McDonalds for lunch. I walked around but came back to the hotel to try to nap. Instead, I got busy making plans to return to BKK Saturday morning and meet up for dinner with another OK Cupid friend. I should probably dump her, but she is cute and funny and I really would like to meet her. It will be friends only with her, but that is OK. I am also making plans to see my Thai GF on Sunday, who I will spend my last days in Thailand with. But lots of arranging bus trip to BKK by Bell, hotel near where the friend in Bangkok lives, figuring out the best way to get to the hotel (not served by Bell), etc.
Close to 4 PM I go drop some laundry off on Soi 13/2 then head to Soi 6. There is some really fine stuff available. I stopped at one bar sorry, didn't get the name and when I left the area I tried to identify if but some of those places look alike and I just don't know which one it was! Anyway, and any nubes take note, here is how you get a bar girl on Soi 6. Take a gander up and down the street to see what is available. Don't necessarily stop at the first pretty face you see. There will be more. Beware of LBs on the south side though. When you find a girl you like, walk directly over to her. Don't let girls you don't want come over and grab hold of you. If they do grab you, keep walking and looking at the girl you want. You be in control. She will smile and take you inside and get your drink. Remember, you coming to her and her letting her take you inside for a drink is what she is waiting for. She has been sitting out there in the heat all day just waiting for you to come to her. Inside, if you still like her, order your drink. She will get if for you. If you are hot, she may even get you a cool towel and wipe your face with it. But after you get your drink and if you still like her, ask her if she wants one. She will. Talk a while with her and she will probably be touching you and smiling. Ask her what the BF is if you still think you want to have sex with her. If the rate is acceptable to you, which should be 350 to 400 be, ask what her rate is. Don't be shy about this. I was at first, as I am not used to simply asking pretty girls for sex but, again, they have been waiting out in the heat all day for you to come over, buy her a drink, and ask her for sex. If you are really super unappealing to her, she might refuse or offer a high price, but if you are average and have a good attitude, she will gladly have sex with her. If they don't have sex with you, they don't make much money, and they left their homes and families to come to Pattaya to have sex with you to have money to live on and to send back home. If you don't have sex with her, her family will suffer. You are not degrading her or using her by having sex with her.
Anyway, back to my story where I just sat down with a girl for a drink at a bar on Soi 6 I can't remember, this beautiful girl who was all smiles and was kissing me and poking at my Johnson who I asked about the BF, didn't know what it was. Strange. She went over to ask and came back 2000 B. Huh? And she said her rate was 2000 B ST. Huh? I said that was pretty expensive. She later said that after 10 PM the BF went down to 800 B. Well, that is still expensive! She was hot, but not 4000 B hot though. Maybe 2800 be. Maybe. Oh, the girl's name was Poon, or maybe it was Pun. Nice, super cute girl, but pretty expensive for a Soi 6 girl.
So I left, with a hug and kiss and kept looking. I spotted a pretty cute one further down and when over at the Offshore Bar. She smiled and walked over to the door to let me in then then, wait, she is a he! I exclaimed "You are a lady boy!" She nodded yes. I said "No, I am sorry". She was gracious, and I walked off telling her she was pretty. Sheesh, that was a close call there! Moving on, and closer the Second Road entrance a spied another cute young thing with a nice smile. I went over directly to her and she was also very happy to see me. Her English was rather poor and I had a lot of trouble understanding, but she was friendly and attentive. Her name was Nam. Their BF was a more reasonable 350 be and her rate for 1500 B. The sex would be upstairs, as seems typical on Soi 6. OK, decent price, so let's go. Nam was a really cute spinner. We went up two flights of stairs to the bed area. After the shower we start out touching then she asks if I want BBBJ. Duh. She laughed and said farang's seem to love BJ's. She did a very good job. Next I broke out my condom and she climbed on board. She was having some trouble staying wet and I had to ask for some lube when moving to doggie. She was super nice and attentive and semi-GFE, but I guess it was mostly an act. Being old and tired, I could not finish, which was in no way due to her. She was sad that I failed, and tried some more BJ to get me off, but I also want to conserve my fluids. I think BBBKCIM is available. We cuddled a while which was nice then I said I should shower and leave. For a bit, I almost thought she was going to shed a tear that I didn't get off, saying she took it as a failure when that happened. I assured her I was not upset with her in the slightest, and gave her a 100 B tip as evidence. I highly recommend the Offshore Bar lots of attractive girls there with reasonable rates.
I was still tired so I came back to the hotel, worked on this report, and tried to take a nap before heading back to WS. When I headed out for WS around 9 PM it was raining very lightly. Not bad enough to get you wet, but as I got to WS, droves of Chinese were leaving, so it served to clear out many of the tourists. The weather had been on the cooler side all day, and when the rain totally ended a short while later, it was pretty nice outside.
Anyway, I was hungry and I had fried rice at the New York Diner. Not bad. I started mongering with another visit to the Peppermint. You may remember I came here several nights ago and found a hot beauty I wanted to BF, as well as a cute spinning dynamo with an awesome smile as my backup, but by the time I got around to asking the bar was closing so I lucked out. Tonight I didn't want to stay out too late and figured I would go there to see if my favorite girl, #8 (I think) was available. If she was, and if she would leave with me, I would take her early before someone else might snap her up. I stepped inside and the lady who I had originally asked about #8 remembered me, but said she was not working tonight. The other girl I had been interested in was there and was as energetic as ever. I hesitated though. The bar lady was trying her best to hook me up with the other girl. The girl was nice, but a little chubbier than I was looking for. But I treated her well and ended up buying her, the bar lady and a bunch of others some LDs and shots. We will see if that earns me any points! I will add that there was another girl, similar to 8, that I asked to BF, but I was denied. The bar lady asked but the girl said she was not going out that night. I thought she just didn't like me. But, I did come back several hours later and she was still there and the bar was busy, so maybe that is true. Anyway, I learned the Peppermint has a two tiered BF system. BFs are 1000 B, except that the girl who are wearing bikinis instead of the hot pants are 700 B after 10 pm. I believe the girls' rates are 3000ST and 4000 be rather stiff. Even so, I thought of going with my second choice there (all of my choice there are hot pants girls) but decided to check out some other clubs first.
I checked out Angel Witch. They put on a real show of fuller-figured dancers trying to be artistic. I wasn't impressed. Super overpriced coke, so I was out of there quickly. Headed back to Happy. Really cute girl in there dancing. I asked an attendant about speaking with her, and he calls her over to me when her dance set is over. Very pretty girls there, and the BFs are 800 B here, but she want 3000ST, to be done in a room there on premises. 5000 B LT to take her out. Yikes. I mean, I can easily afford this, but I am thinking about Soi 6. If I want to have sex in a small cubbyhole I can go to Soi 6 for a girl just as attractive for half the price. I decline. I won't be back to Happy.
Next I went to Sugar Baby. It was wild. Naked women in some kind of semi-sex show that sounds better than it really was. Girls were ok, but on the wilder side. I see once dark skinned Issan girl, kind of plain-looking and skinny but with relatively large, natural breasts and with a naughty looking face. Her name is Joy. I think she could indeed bring some joy to a man. There is a girl with bleached hair I like, but she is occupied in the show. Joy saw me looking at her while she danced and immediately came to sit next to me when her dancing set was over. She was affectionate. She kissed, rubbed my Johnson a little and teased. It was getting really late, me having wasted too much time at Peppermint, but I was about to ask the BF situation having just bought her a second LD when, bam, the club suddenly shuts down. No final call or anything like that. Some dude yelled something and all the girls got up on stage then left. Show over. Get out. Too bad you just ordered a drink 2 minutes ago! I left and went back to the Peppermint to see if that other girl was still there. She wasn't. I bought the chubby girl another LD then left. Sigh.
By then it was past 2 and the food cart vendors were moving in. I looked for the FLers, but didn't find anyone I liked all that much so I went home. Sigh. Just when I thought I had things figured out, I flopped out. I spent too much time in one club entertaining people I had no intention of bar fining. That was my main error. Plus I am picky. A few clubs were still open (some are open to 4 AM), but it was around 3 AM and I was exhausted.
I have just one more day in Pattaya to monger. Kind of sad, but yet also ready to leave. A man can't take too much of this all the time.
Wolvenvacht
05-15-15, 18:57
Bro,
We three friends are planning to visit Pattaya early next month and our budget is 3,00,000 Baht for five days. After reading your post we are bit worried and any advice to make the trip a joyous one will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.Does this 300,000 baht include the trip and hotel costs?
Wolvenvacht
05-15-15, 19:12
I guess she didn't, as at about 6 AM she wakes me and says she can't sleep so she is leaving. Uh, ok. I understand, but don't really know what the rules for LT are. I had not planned of having sex again with her that morning, but had expected her to stay until 9 AM or so. Guys, what are the rules or expectations of a LT stay? I am not upset with her really, but was a little depressed to see her go. Like EMP, she is one of the girls I want to stay and not leave.
There are of course no "fixed rules" (this is Thailand after all!) but the usual procedure is two pops before going to sleep and then one more in the morning.
Some guys can continue all night (or so they say) and will let the girl go when they are thoroughly drained.
Others (like myself) like to cuddle-up in post-coital bliss and sleep together until the morning and then have here take care of the morning wood. I always offer her breakfast, but few accept and most leave around 7 AM.
Been enjoying your reports, thanks so much.
The night before you leave, Play this song from Roger Whittaker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGWs1HK8iDU
In a way kind of fits with the symbolizm.
Hi,
This does not include trip cost.
Hotel cost is 50,000 Baht (Three bedroom suite for 5 days) and for mongering 250 K.
Does this 300,000 baht include the trip and hotel costs?
ArideeKrish
05-16-15, 18:17
Bro,
We three friends are planning to visit Pattaya early next month and our budget is 3,00,000 Baht for five days. After reading your post we are bit worried and any advice to make the trip a joyous one will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.If you want to go for a girl pick her up in pubs or massage parlors. In fact some best looking girls of model category are there in massage parlors. Again we were able to pick some classy girls from pubs including a CIS. There you pay entry fee, pour money on drinks they see it and they trust you. Gogo they don't let you in and some ask upfront table charge and you that you could get in.
All the best.
Red Dogger
05-16-15, 22:50
Hi,
This does not include trip cost.
Hotel cost is 50,000 Baht (Three bedroom suite for 5 days) and for mongering 250 K.That is a rather pricey hotel. I presume it comes with a nice swimming pool, spectacular views, and all that. Are you sure you will be using those. Hard to enjoy spectacular views when your girl closes the blinds in order to get naked. And is the swimming pool deep enough that you can jump in carrying your lady friend, and she is entertainingly out of her depth? Some of the pricey hotels do not provide anything much better than a 700 Baht per day hotel. It easy to blow a lot of money on a hotel, and not get much more than a prestigious address, which matters for businessmen, but not for mongers.
250 K Mongering for three guys for five days is 14000 Baht per guy per day. By and large, you can have a girl all day for 4 K, so you are figuring on changing girls frequently, maybe three girls per day. You can blow any amount of money really fast in a gogo but if you stick to regular bars and discos, you will have trouble burning that much money that fast.
For that kind of money, maybe you are planning all day twosomes. Or threesomes. Then you would get some value out of a big hotel suite.
That is a rather pricey hotel. I presume it comes with a nice swimming pool, spectacular views, and all that. Are you sure you will be using those. Hard to enjoy spectacular views when your girl closes the blinds in order to get naked. And is the swimming pool deep enough that you can jump in carrying your lady friend, and she is entertainingly out of her depth? Some of the pricey hotels do not provide anything much better than a 700 Baht per day hotel. It easy to blow a lot of money on a hotel, and not get much more than a prestigious address, which matters for businessmen, but not for mongers.
250 K Mongering for three guys for five days is 14000 Baht per guy per day. By and large, you can have a girl all day for 4 K, so you are figuring on changing girls frequently, maybe three girls per day. You can blow any amount of money really fast in a gogo but if you stick to regular bars and discos, you will have trouble burning that much money that fast.
For that kind of money, maybe you are planning all day twosomes. Or threesomes. Then you would get some value out of a big hotel suite.For that kind of money you should not even see your dick again until time for you to leave. It should always be in someone.
Hotel cost is 50,000 Baht (Three bedroom suite for 5 days) and for mongering 250 K.OK. I'll bite:
The hotel for 10,000 Baht a day I am guessing a three bedroom suite at the Penthouse Hotel. They have some pricey options available where you can connect a bunch of rooms into one large party setup.
With 14,000 Baht a day each for mongering you will have plenty of options. Hardcore Devils Den ladies are 7,000 Baht for a whole day, and you have the assurance that they will perform together nicely. Four or five of them to share around and you will still have enough money left for meals and in-room refreshments. IMO that would make for one memorable day during your visit.
SunLover.
For that kind of money you should not even see your dick again until time for you to leave. It should always be in someone.It is posts like this one that makes me wish our forum had a like button. Thanks for the laugh.
OK. I'll bite:
The hotel for 10,000 Baht a day I am guessing a three bedroom suite at the Penthouse Hotel. They have some pricey options available where you can connect a bunch of rooms into one large party setup.
With 14,000 Baht a day each for mongering you will have plenty of options. Hardcore Devils Den ladies are 7,000 Baht for a whole day, and you have the assurance that they will perform together nicely. Four or five of them to share around and you will still have enough money left for meals and in-room refreshments. IMO that would make for one memorable day during your visit.
SunLoverWe were planning to stay in LK the Empress, any suggestions for hotels with Three bedroom suite will be greatly appreciated.
Last year we had DD ladies in our suite and we were not that impressed, so this year we are planning to hit Discos and Pubs (Thanks to WildBillLewis: 28 days in Pattaya). Any pointers on Discos and Pubs where there is no entry problem for Indians will be very helpful.
Thanks in Advance.
We were planning to stay in LK the Empress, any suggestions for hotels with Three bedroom suite will be greatly appreciated.
Last year we had DD ladies in our suite and we were not that impressed, so this year we are planning to hit Discos and Pubs (Thanks to WildBillLewis: 28 days in Pattaya). Any pointers on Discos and Pubs where there is no entry problem for Indians will be very helpful.
Thanks in Advance.Any particular reason why all of you need to stay in the same suite? I have good friends also but don't need to bunk with them while I'm fuckin.
We were planning to stay in LK the Empress, any suggestions for hotels with Three bedroom suite will be greatly appreciated.
Last year we had DD ladies in our suite and we were not that impressed, so this year we are planning to hit Discos and Pubs (Thanks to WildBillLewis: 28 days in Pattaya). Any pointers on Discos and Pubs where there is no entry problem for Indians will be very helpful.
Thanks in Advance.Bringing a women in the room with three Indians waiting. No you guys haven't earned your reputation at all.
FreebieFan
05-18-15, 01:45
Bringing a women in the room with three Indians waiting. No you guys haven't earned your reputation at all.Only 3 ? . Was chatting to one lady in Pattaya on last trip and she mentioned she went back to one room with a south Asian punter and there 6 guys in the room, all tongues with salivating and smiles abounding. She screamed and ran.
Any particular reason why all of you need to stay in the same suite? I have good friends also but don't need to bunk with them while I'm fuckin.What we are planning is a huge continuous party for five days in a row and not just banging the girls in rooms (For that we will have our own bedrooms).
Bringing a women in the room with three Indians waiting. No you guys haven't earned your reputation at all.Bringing a woman with three Indians waiting will be a problem which we understand, but bringing minimum three to maximum six (Depending upon our mood) should not be a problem! Correct?
So your twice her age. Put yourself in her shoes, imagine a reasonably fit 80 year old women wondering why you don't give her the time of day. LOL.If the 80 year old woman wants to pay me the right amount to be with her, I will gladly give her the time of day. We are talking about prostitutes here aren't we? Money makes an older gentleman look many years younger.
Only 3 ? . Was chatting to one lady in Pattaya on last trip and she mentioned she went back to one room with a south Asian punter and there 6 guys in the room, all tongues with salivating and smiles abounding. She screamed and ran.It does not matter what their country of origin was. Any professional lady who goes back to a hotel and finds a number of guys waiting for her will assume [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and will just run. This was a habit among the untouchable Hi-so young Cambodian men in Phnom Penh a few years ago. One would go out and find the girl, agree the price and bring her back to a room where he and all his friends would [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her (and yes, a hooker can be raped. Not every hooker wants to be pounded into hamburger by 6 guys!) It is quite likely that there was a similar fashion in Bangkok among certain untouchable Hi-so types at some stage too.
It's been a couple of years since my last trip to Pattaya, but my next visit is coming up this summer. In the past I've always carried a wad of cash and stuck the bulk of it in the in room safe. I've never had any problems and was planning to do the same, but I'm always nervous as hell carrying too much cash at once. I would hate to get robbed by a hotel worker (yeah, I know that doesn't happen much) and end up having to beg on the street for beer and barfine money. Seriously, I was wondering if you carry a big wad of cash only or do you spilt between cash, traveler's checks (I think banks still have those), and a debit card? The last time I was there, I think traveler's checks seemed easy enough to cash at the money exchange booths but have a small fee for each check (maybe 150 baht) and the same for debit card withdraws plus whatever your own bank charges (maybe 1%). Suggestions or tips?
It's been a couple of years since my last trip to Pattaya, but my next visit is coming up this summer. In the past I've always carried a wad of cash and stuck the bulk of it in the in room safe. I've never had any problems and was planning to do the same, but I'm always nervous as hell carrying too much cash at once. I would hate to get robbed by a hotel worker (yeah, I know that doesn't happen much) and end up having to beg on the street for beer and barfine money. Seriously, I was wondering if you carry a big wad of cash only or do you spilt between cash, traveler's checks (I think banks still have those), and a debit card? The last time I was there, I think traveler's checks seemed easy enough to cash at the money exchange booths but have a small fee for each check (maybe 150 baht) and the same for debit card withdraws plus whatever your own bank charges (maybe 1%). Suggestions or tips?At some ATM's you can withdraw 30000 a day. That is almost 1000 american. Can't imagine you need more than that. I also have an auxillary lock for my room safe and keep my debit card hidden away somewhere else, like taped to the back or under something. That way I don't lose my cash and card at the same time if something happens. Never really carried Travelers Checks.
It's been a couple of years since my last trip to Pattaya, but my next visit is coming up this summer. In the past I've always carried a wad of cash and stuck the bulk of it in the in room safe.
Suggestions or tips?I go the all cash route also to pay for everything (including hotels) along with two debit and two credit cards as backup.
If I was going to do it differently I would do ATM withdrawals, and use a bank or brokerage account which reimburses all ATM related fees.
SunLover.
Member #4698
05-18-15, 22:47
Nefarious,
Like you I "always carried a wad of cash and stuck the bulk of it in the in room safe (whenever I traveled) & I never had any problems. " But on my last trip I decided to upgrade. I opened up a Charles Schwab Checking Account. It is free and has no minimum amount requirement. It also pays interest on the balance. Schwab also required that I open up a Schwab Brokerage account at the same time, but the brokerage account has no minimum amount to maintain and pays interest on the balance as well. So I put a $100 into my brokerage account just for the hell of it and Schwab issued me their Visa Debit card attached to my new checking account. Subsequently the Debit card reimbursed me for ALL my ATM withdrawal fees at the end of each month plus I had the luxury of funding or replenishing the checking account (my Debit Card) any time I wanted with links I set up to my every day brick and mortar financial institution. The maximum ATM withdrawal per day is $1000.
So I traveled around SE Asia for 2 months using my Schwab ATM Debit Card everywhere. I also took along $1500 cash for back up which I never needed. This new system is definitely an improvement over the old way of doing things ie carrying 100% cash and IT IS FREE. I won't travel the old way with "a wad of cash" ever again. Cash is now just for backup.
Nefarious,
Like you I "always carried a wad of cash and stuck the bulk of it in the in room safe (whenever I traveled) & I never had any problems. " But on my last trip I decided to upgrade. I opened up a Charles Schwab Checking Account. It is free and has no minimum amount requirement. It also pays interest on the balance. Schwab also required that I open up a Schwab Brokerage account at the same time, but the brokerage account has no minimum amount to maintain and pays interest on the balance as well. So I put a $100 into my brokerage account just for the hell of it and Schwab issued me their Visa Debit card attached to my new checking account. Subsequently the Debit card reimbursed me for ALL my ATM withdrawal fees at the end of each month plus I had the luxury of funding or replenishing the checking account (my Debit Card) any time I wanted with links I set up to my every day brick and mortar financial institution. The maximum ATM withdrawal per day is $1000.
So I traveled around SE Asia for 2 months using my Schwab ATM Debit Card everywhere. I also took along $1500 cash for back up which I never needed. This new system is definitely an improvement over the old way of doing things ie carrying 100% cash and IT IS FREE. I won't travel the old way with "a wad of cash" ever again. Cash is now just for backup.Thanks. This is great info. I've heard about the CS accounts before, but never took the time to research it. This lays it all out nicely.
I used to use strictly ATMs but the exchange fees at both ends are ridiculous. Then I started carrying a lot of cash, but never liked it. (In the early days in Myanmar and Cambodia you had no choice). The small penalty in the exchange rate more than made up for the transaction fees. Now I'll do the Schwab thing, thanks to your advice, and stop asking the bank for crisp, new, $100 bills.
Was in Pattaya last week. The number of FLs along beach road was so so around 9 pm on Friday night but quality was nothing to talk about. However around 2 AM there were less than 15 FLs! I think there was police action. Also there were hardly any WGs on WS. Saw several FLs and LBs sitting in police van around 1 AM at WS. Looks like LE is restricting the scene quite a bit. The tourist numbers were very low and there were hardly any to be seen around 2 AM.
If the 80 year old woman wants to pay me the right amount to be with her, I will gladly give her the time of day. We are talking about prostitutes here aren't we? Money makes an older gentleman look many years younger.Thanks Smoothy.
At Breadman please don't assume things. The fact is the girl is 25 years old and though I am 40, I look much younger and fit (some senior members on this forum who have personally met me can attest to that). Also age difference of 5-10 years between younger girl and older man is common and not the other way around. Anyway an 80 year old lady would struggle to do day to day activities and can not even think of sex. I would appreciate if you can provide helpful and sensible reply to future posts.
LoverboyJerico
05-19-15, 08:58
With so many posts on the racism against indians, I feel I need to share something with all my buddies here!! Well, its true that a lot of Go Go's don't allow indians. Maybe some so called brothers of ours have sipped a beer all night or given a non consensual gang bang to hooker here or there. But its really wrong to stereotype all the indians. You can't see the world all the time in only one light!! Now to let everyone know the other side of indians and other side of indians in pattaya. For those of you who have or will visit Mumbai (India) some time, Please do go to Dance bars and see. It is very common to see many, I say again many, indian men blowing a minimum of 250000 baht in a couple of hours. Also, the highest figure blown by an indian is close to a million US Dollars. So, its not that all indians are the same or unwilling to spend. In fact, a girl from baccara told me that she was tipped 20000 baht by indian. That was apparently her highest tip ever.
When I was in pattaya last time, in Nov 14. I was denied entry to sensations. I had bottle of Chivas Regal, in hand. I just handed it over to the security saying no to me, and I was in!! Did Barfine a girl, took her to the room but again, she was paid more than committed. She was more than happy!! This time when I was there, I don't know if all indias are allowed, but I and my friends were not stopped. There was a fellow indian who was blowing 1000 baht notes!! Mind It!! 1000 baht notes and the girls were all screaming -- AHHHHH! And catching those up! In Fact, I called a girl over for a lady drink who said after he stops blowing, she would come. So, its not all dark sides to indians!! We know how to spend and how to treat women great as well. [Text in ALL CAPITAL LETTERING Deleted by Admin]
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LoverboyJerico
05-19-15, 11:19
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And tell us how you really feel Mr. CAPS!
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Nefarious,
Like you I "always carried a wad of cash and stuck the bulk of it in the in room safe (whenever I traveled) & I never had any problems. " But on my last trip I decided to upgrade. I opened up a Charles Schwab Checking Account. It is free and has no minimum amount requirement. It also pays interest on the balance. Schwab also required that I open up a Schwab Brokerage account at the same time, but the brokerage account has no minimum amount to maintain and pays interest on the balance as well. So I put a $100 into my brokerage account just for the hell of it and Schwab issued me their Visa Debit card attached to my new checking account. Subsequently the Debit card reimbursed me for ALL my ATM withdrawal fees at the end of each month plus I had the luxury of funding or replenishing the checking account (my Debit Card) any time I wanted with links I set up to my every day brick and mortar financial institution. The maximum ATM withdrawal per day is $1000.
So I traveled around SE Asia for 2 months using my Schwab ATM Debit Card everywhere. I also took along $1500 cash for back up which I never needed. This new system is definitely an improvement over the old way of doing things ie carrying 100% cash and IT IS FREE. I won't travel the old way with "a wad of cash" ever again. Cash is now just for backup.Natty,
I can also vouch for the Schwab debit card, which I used in BKK recently (and indeed all over the world). Yes, they refund all those 180 baht fees back to your account. And the exchange rates they use (ie dollar to baht) have much tighter margins than most other forex methods. Double win.
I am a UK resident, and I opened a Schwab brokerage account some years ago in order to trade US stocks, which I do extensively. The debit / ATM card sat in a drawer for a while until I realised how great it is for foreign travel. Schwab has an office in London if you are British and want to open an account.
Haverhill Lite
05-19-15, 17:55
The elimination of racism is a problem that can only be overcome in two ways. First and best, the ending of behaviors that cause the racism, if such exists. Second is education, but that is only feasible in a country that protects its citizens fully.
It is good and true that MOST Indians are good and honest people. Same for all people. However, the women do not have to deal with most, but ALL people who come to them. If they have experienced 5% bad for them from one group and 20% bad from another, they will show preference for the first. Yes, this may be racist or stereotyping, but it also real. They must protect themselves first, for there is no one else to be counted on to protect them.
For the kind man, this is distressing, and rightly so. But it distressing that one cannot get laid. For the woman, the distress is that she will be raped or worse, so show patience. If a woman is shown you are kind hearted but persists in racist attitude, she is a bigot. Before that she is merely cautious, for she doesn't have the luxury to be otherwise.
This is to say nothing of the racism of a BUSINESS barring entry by skin, but that vileness is another topic.
With so many posts on the racism against indians, I feel I need to share something with all my buddies here!! Well, its true that a lot of Go Go's don't allow indians. Maybe some so called brothers of ours have sipped a beer all night or given a non consensual gang bang to hooker here or there. But its really wrong to stereotype all the indians...With you all the Way Bro. Proud of your post.
Sorokonozka
05-19-15, 18:50
Hello forum,
I will be arriving in Pattaya at the beginning of June with a Filipina friend.
She is very keen on having a lesbian experience. This will be her first foray into a girl / girl meeting so she is really excited about the possibility.
Is there anyone who has had some experience in finding a willing lady, and any suggestions where to look.
Thanks in advance.
Red Dogger
05-19-15, 21:39
This is to say nothing of the racism of a BUSINESS barring entry by skin, but that vileness is another topic.Businesses in Pattaya rely on people paying tips. Primarily rely on people buying ladies drinks, on people spending or giving money that they not strictly required to give or spend. Indians notoriously try to pay as little as possible and try to get something for nothing.
Tight fistedness can result in unpleasantness for any man in Pattaya, regardless of race, but people are a lot more likely to assume Indians tightfisted, because they are usually right to assume that.
People working in businesses in Pattaya cannot afford to take offense at the sight of old fat men going around with Thai girls hanging on to them, because they live on the genuine and spontaneous generosity of those old fat men. So when they see someone from whom no tips or avoidable expenditures are expected, the man who probably has a clever plan to get something for nothing, that man is likely to be subjected to the white hot hatred that someone like me probably deserves, but never receives.
Hello forum,
I will be arriving in Pattaya at the beginning of June with a Filipina friend.
She is very keen on having a lesbian experience. This will be her first foray into a girl / girl meeting so she is really excited about the possibility.
Is there anyone who has had some experience in finding a willing lady, and any suggestions where to look.
Thanks in advance.I am married to a Filipina who also had the same desire. About 5 years ago we went to Pattaya with the same intention in mind. We found it very easy to find a willing girl. Just behave as you would if you were buy yourself in a go-go bar. We went into the bar and scouted a girl we agreed upon. We then offered her a drink. She came over and we carried on a conversation just like you would by yourself. We introduce ourselves, small talk about where we were from, etc. Told her we were married and we were enjoying our time in Pattaya. Just like if you were alone, the conversation carried up with jokes and laughs and making her comfortable. Buy a few more drinks etc. Finally, we said to her that we were going to leave and go to another bar and wanted to ask her if she would like to come with us to go bar hopping and then back to our hotel if we paid her bar fine. We found the right girl and she said yes. And let me tell you what a great night we had.
We have continued to carry on every year or so and go to Bangkok or Pattaya to have a little fun with a young Thai girl. We have gone through the routine and been told no at the end, which is OK. But what we do now, is when we are in the bar, we scout the girl we like, and then we have a talk with mamasan first. We say that we are a couple and interested in a 3 some with the girl we like and want to know if the girl is up for threesomes (including sex with my wife). The mamasan will usually be honest and say yes, she is, or not she is not, but these three over here are. If we like one of the three she points out, we offer to buy her a drink. If not, we carry on to another bar.
Don't be shy about it. Many of the girls are very open and willing to go with you as a couple. Just be sincere and ask polite questions and you will eventually find what you want. Its not too hard.
FYI. My wife and I are heading to Pattaya from the 22nd to 25th of May. This will be our 8th time there since our first encounter. We are looking forward to a few more sweet Thai threesomes.
Gin And Tonic
05-20-15, 14:23
[QUOTE=Sorokonozka;1723009]Hello forum,
I will be arriving in Pattaya at the beginning of June with a Filipina friend.
She is very keen on having a lesbian experience. This will be her first foray into a girl / girl meeting so she is really excited about the possibility.
Is there anyone who has had some experience in finding a willing lady, and any suggestions where
There was a tomboy bar on soi17,3rd Road you might try.
Sorokonozka
05-20-15, 16:51
I am married to a Filipina who also had the same desire. About 5 years ago we went to Pattaya with the same intention in mind. We found it very easy to find a willing girl. Just behave as you would if you were buy yourself in a go-go bar. Thank you for the details.
I didn't think it would be the most difficult thing in the world to accomplish in Pattaya, but there is nothing like a little first hand information.
If anyone is interested in the outcome of the search and subsequent encounter, I will report here once it's done.
There was a tomboy bar on soi17,3rd Road you might try.Thanks for the tip. Will take a look there.
Hey Breadman,
Totally agree with you that its not about the money, its about the attitude towards women. Even if she is a WG ýou need to treat her well. I am an Indian by birth, well traveled around the globe including my 10+ visits to Pattaya. I have experienced only at Rainbow 4 at Bangkok I was stopped once, I have always had a good experience in Pattaya and have made a lot of friends, as long as you behave well and be well mannered things would be good. This is the basic thing missing in many Indians visiting Pattaya. I have seen it happen in Lucifer, when a gang of guys were arguing with a WG, I did intervene and I was asked by my fellow Indians to mind my own business, later they were asked to leave. But its not right to generalize this across the country as there are pockets where people are well educated, earn well, know how to behave and have gone places. Because of the sudden economic activity a lot of guys made money but still can't behave themselves that's the crowd which you all would be referring to.
Your focusing on the wrong issue, it has nothing to do with money. I'm quoted 1000 baht short time and so are the next 50 guys of different nationalities. Has nothing to do what that 1000 baht will buy in my country. Has everything to do with how each nationality treats their women. If a Thai girl see's 50 men and every Indian man treats her like shit, she'll go out of her way to see men of other nationalities. She'll tell her friends her experiences which add to the negative view.
Question for OnlyOneLife and other Indians, have any of you ever agreed upon a price and then tipped the girl extra or asked her if she was hungry or thirsty before or after the deed? Or just paid her the agreed upon amount and moved on?
IndStallion31
05-22-15, 10:59
Hello friends,
Though by reading the forum I understood that sopaies in Bangkok are much better in terms of service than Pattaya. But still I wanted to know if there is any soapy worth trying in Pattaya where I can get PSE and good body slides?
Thank you
Good day gentlemen!
I'm taking a summer trip around South / Southeast Asia and a former Thai colleague asked me to drop by Bangkok for a weekend and promised to show me around. I'm considering it but as you can see, one of things I did was a quick check of the Thai section on ISG. I was hoping somebody would answer two questions for me:
1) I figured I could add 6-8 days before / after a weekend. I know Pattaya and Phuket are big draw areas for tourists. But, does saying that one is in Pattaya give away what you are doing there? In other words, is there other legitimate popular tourism also going on?
2) My second question is filled with regret. As it happens, I happen to be of Indian origin. I noticed a somewhat heated debate on visiting Indians in the forum, their manners or lack thereof, and a seeming boycott by the local industry. This pains me. My initial reaction was: WTF did they do!? In any case, my interest is not to re / start a flame war of any sort. I just want to see if I can get any input regarding traveling solo there and if it would be worth it or not in my case.
I expect to be traveling on my own. I'd research and try to get some 4* type hotel (if they are girl-friendly). I've browsed around for girl / entertainment prices on and off the forum. It seems mostly really cheap (which adds to the pain and regret). I tend to like longer GFE type experiences. Be at a nice hotel, eat / drink and enjoy without watching the clock.
So, the question is: can it be done? (with whatever my brethren seem to have inflicted on the locals). If I am persona non grata, then I can try my fortune elsewhere.
I would really appreciate any constructive tips. Also, again, I try to keep away from flaming, trolling, and jingoism, so I am not trying to go there. Of course, if I visit Thailand / Pattaya, I will update with reports.
PM me if you would like that! Thanks.
Best!
Natty,
I can also vouch for the Schwab debit card, which I used in BKK recently (and indeed all over the world). Yes, they refund all those 180 baht fees back to your account. And the exchange rates they use (ie dollar to baht) have much tighter margins than most other forex methods. Double win.
I am a UK resident, and I opened a Schwab brokerage account some years ago in order to trade US stocks, which I do extensively. The debit / ATM card sat in a drawer for a while until I realised how great it is for foreign travel. Schwab has an office in London if you are British and want to open an account.Ditto. In the US, they have an investor checking account, which provides you with a debit card. All ATM fees are reimbursed even when they aren't clearly identified. That's what you want to have when traveling. Fidelity and online bank accounts also tend to do that but I am not sure how good they are at reimbursing foreign fees. But Schwab + a no FTF credit card is all you need.
Hello friends,
Though by reading the forum I understood that sopaies in Bangkok are much better in terms of service than Pattaya. But still I wanted to know if there is any soapy worth trying in Pattaya where I can get PSE and good body slides?
Thank youYou could try Honey 1, though they have another one located at a close distance called Honey-2, the earlier one had more choice. I've tried Annie's in Bangkok many times, but Honey was much better in terms of the staff & the rooms.
Wolvenvacht
05-23-15, 07:49
1) I figured I could add 6-8 days before / after a weekend. I know Pattaya and Phuket are big draw areas for tourists. But, does saying that one is in Pattaya give away what you are doing there? In other words, is there other legitimate popular tourism also going on?
There are enough "non mongering" things to see and do in and around Pattaya. Among those are:
* "Ripley's Believe It or Not"-museum.
* Sanctuary of Truth.
* Ladyboy shows.
* The waterpark in Jomtien (great for ogling non-P4P girls in skimpy bikinis).
* Floating Market.
* Dolphin show.
* Aquarium.
* Buddha on the Mountain.
* Zipline adventure.
* . . .
And I'm quite sure I forget a lot more.
But if you are concerned about your reputation, why not book a stay in a hotel or apartment in Jomtien, which is the familiy beach part of Pattaya, but still has its own small selection of naughty bars and massage places and is only a short 10 minutes in a bahth bus away from Walking Street in Pattaya.
2) My second question is filled with regret. As it happens, I happen to be of Indian origin. I noticed a somewhat heated debate on visiting Indians in the forum, their manners or lack thereof, and a seeming boycott by the local industry. This pains me. My initial reaction was: WTF did they do!? (. . .)
The world is full of stereotyping. I read that Westerners are regularly being denied access to "Thai only" or "Japanese only" clubs in Bangkok because we are "too big" for their girls' small pussies. It is never funny being denied access, but it is not a problem. Plenty more establishments that are more than happy to accept your baht. Just smile and take your business to their neighbours.
Hello forum,
I will be arriving in Pattaya at the beginning of June with a Filipina friend.
She is very keen on having a lesbian experience. This will be her first foray into a girl / girl meeting so she is really excited about the possibility.
Is there anyone who has had some experience in finding a willing lady, and any suggestions where to look.
Thanks in advance.You could try Devils Den as they claim to have this service on their site. I tried to call them many times, but couldn't get through to them during my stay there last week, hence am not sure if they are open.
Businesses in Pattaya rely on people paying tips. Primarily rely on people buying ladies drinks, on people spending or giving money that they not strictly required to give or spend. Indians notoriously try to pay as little as possible and try to get something for nothing.
Tight fistedness can result in unpleasantness for any man in Pattaya, regardless of race, but people are a lot more likely to assume Indians tightfisted, because they are usually right to assume that.
People working in businesses in Pattaya cannot afford to take offense at the sight of old fat men going around with Thai girls hanging on to them, because they live on the genuine and spontaneous generosity of those old fat men. So when they see someone from whom no tips or avoidable expenditures are expected, the man who probably has a clever plan to get something for nothing, that man is likely to be subjected to the white hot hatred that someone like me probably deserves, but never receives.Red Dogger,
When you say "people in Pattaya rely on people paying tips. "Is totally wrong information to tell someone. Every county relies on people spending money. In Thailand the culture is actually based off not tipping which for once is nice. Tipping is not expected or required. Thailand has seemed to be getting more and more expensive over the years. Without going into that deeper. For myself it is very refreshing if I make a deal with a girl for lets say 700 -1000 Baht. We have a good time she leaves and I give what was promised. I hate after I give what we agreed upon and then they start asking for more money as a tip. I always tell them the same. Tip was included in what we agreed upon. They always smile and leave with a smile never any hard feeling. They know I already know tipping is not required. To be honest I do not have a problem tipping especially when a girl gives great service. But, I don't tip in Thailand on principle to keep the price down. The basic fee for short time in Pattaya is between 600-1000 Baht. But usually 1000. If you negotiate cheaper. Now lets just say 1000 baht is stand tip I Pattaya. If everyone starts tipping on top of that. The price will be driven up to 1500 baht. Which it will anyway because guys from countries where tipping is the culture can't help themselves. I personally would like to keep Thailand cheap for as long as it will last. There are guys out there that can't help themselves and insist on throwing money at working girls. I am glad they are big spenders. I always suggest China where depending on where they go can easily spend around $100 USD per girl. Be happy and tip on top of that. The Chinese have a habit of demanding tip but again depend where you are. So big spenders who will say I am a cheap charlie. Should tip girls that the price is already a $100 USD. They start off spending more and tip more. Helps the girl the economy and helps themselves not feeling cheap. The bragging rights alone are worth it for them.
Uncle Volodya
05-23-15, 08:41
OK. I'll bite:
The hotel for 10,000 Baht a day I am guessing a three bedroom suite at the Penthouse Hotel. They have some pricey options available where you can connect a bunch of rooms into one large party setup.
With 14,000 Baht a day each for mongering you will have plenty of options. Hardcore Devils Den ladies are 7,000 Baht for a whole day, and you have the assurance that they will perform together nicely. Four or five of them to share around and you will still have enough money left for meals and in-room refreshments. IMO that would make for one memorable day during your visit.
SunLover.I disagree. Why waste that money on DD ladies, who are only so-so in the looks department?. And whose service, though ticking off the PSE list, is pretty mechanical.
For that money I'd set up shop at Insomnia with a table and bottle service and pick off the great FL talent to be had there. If you are determined to burn through that much cash even the hottest gogo dancers should be available to you. Then take the best of the best back to your apartment for a huge party / orgy.
there is certainly discrimination in Thailand against Indians. But Thais are, if nothing, a very practical people. I am sure if you throw around enough money they will get over these prejudices in a hurry.
When are you guys planning your trip? I'm around all August and would be happy to show you around a bit.
Uncle Volodya
05-23-15, 08:43
There are enough "non mongering" things to see and do in and around Pattaya. Among those are:
* "Ripley's Believe It or Not"-museum.
* Sanctuary of Truth.
* Ladyboy shows.
* The waterpark in Jomtien (great for ogling non-P4P girls in skimpy bikinis).
* Floating Market.
* Dolphin show.
* Aquarium.
* Buddha on the Mountain.
* Zipline adventure.
* . . .
And I'm quite sure I forget a lot more.
But if you are concerned about your reputation, why not book a stay in a hotel or apartment in Jomtien, which is the familiy beach part of Pattaya, but still has its own small selection of naughty bars and massage places and is only a short 10 minutes in a bahth bus away from Walking Street in Pattaya.
The world is full of stereotyping. I read that Westerners are regularly being denied access to "Thai only" or "Japanese only" clubs in Bangkok because we are "too big" for their girls' small pussies. It is never funny being denied access, but it is not a problem. Plenty more establishments that are more than happy to accept your baht. Just smile and take your business to their neighbours.Great places to establish your alibi!! You can snap some good pics at the Sanctuary of Truth and Floating Market that look like you were out in the boonies doing acceptable "cultures" tourist stuff instead of perving it up in Sin City.
I disagree. Why waste that money on DD ladies, who are only so-so in the looks department?. And whose service, though ticking off the PSE list, is pretty mechanical.I agree that DD can be hit or miss; but the OP has stated he worries about discrimination, and they have a non-discrimination policy clearly posted on their website.
SL.
Sorokonozka
05-23-15, 11:23
You could try Devils Den as they claim to have this service on their site. I tried to call them many times, but couldn't get through to them during my stay there last week, hence am not sure if they are open.Thank you for the idea. I must admit I didn't think of DD!
I'm not really thinking too well it seems when hunting for a pussy for a pussy!
Fun Filled
05-23-15, 12:05
Haven't you heard that one dirty fish spoils the whole pond. Yeh that's try bro. I will share with my last weekend experience in BKK. I am frequent visitor to BKK and.
Never had any problem getting in any high end Clubs, Bars or Restaurants people and girls always treat me with respect and dignity because I do the same. Last weekend two of my Indian friends from New Delhi Joined me in BKK and they wanted to do clubbing, So onus was on me to take them out.
We went to Levels around midnight as usual security staff greeted me and ask me where I have been. I told them work is keeping me busy these days. Inside we were.
Having good time drinking and dancing. One of my friends liked one girl standing alone at the corner so we called her over. She seemed to be nice girl working in mobile shop and here in levels to make some quick money. After few hours we decided to move to Mixx along with that girl. She offered us ride in her car but don't know.
Where Mixx is, so she asked me if I know the direction and I said yes. Once in Mixx again we had a good time, all the security people coming to me and saying Hi. I tip.
Them 20 bhat each generally inside there is 4-5 security guys. In total it cost me around 100 bhat but the respect they give me is worth more than that. I never have to stand in q or ever have to go through body check.
Now here is the main point. My friend from Delhi sealed the deal with this girl for 4000 bhat till afternoon. Around 4 in morning we all left Mixx. My friend and that girl.
Left to his hotel in her car and I took taxi to my hotel. Around 12 in noon I got a text from that girl saying that how come I am so good and my friend so bad. I asked her what happened. She told me that my friend gave her only $100 bill I. E 3200 bhat instead of 4000 bhat as promised and said that's all he got right now. I had no answer.
And told her that I will talk to my friend.
Now what do you think this girl is going to do from next time. 1. She is not going to go with any Indian guy. 2. If she dares to go with them she will ask for money up.
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Red Dogger
05-23-15, 13:15
I happen to be of Indian origin. I noticed a somewhat heated debate on visiting Indians in the forum, their manners or lack thereof, and a seeming boycott by the local industry. This pains me. My initial reaction was: WTF did they do!?Many things, but their primary failing was failure to throw sufficient money around with sufficient abandon at sufficient people. Pattaya is an economy based on tips and lady drinks. Tip everyone at least 20 Baht and always buy a drink for yourself and a drink for a lady. In the morning, tip the lady several hundred more than promised or agreed. If you keep a death grip on your wallet, you will wear out your welcome mighty fast, regardless of race.
Member #4698
05-23-15, 13:40
Good day gentlemen!
1) I figured I could add 6-8 days before / after a weekend. I know Pattaya and Phuket are big draw areas for tourists. But, does saying that one is in Pattaya give away what you are doing there? In other words, is there other legitimate popular tourism also going on?
2) My second question is filled with regret. As it happens, I happen to be of Indian origin. I noticed a somewhat heated debate on visiting Indians in the forum, their manners or lack thereof, and a seeming boycott by the local industry. This pains me. My initial reaction was: WTF did they do!? In any case, my interest is not to re / start a flame war of any sort. I just want to see if I can get any input regarding traveling solo there and if it would be worth it or not in my case.
1) Pattaya does have a certain reputation. I tell certain business associates and married straight friends I am visiting Ko Lanta. Only my close friends know what I am really doing.
2) Maila, you sound like an educated, well financed, Indian Player. Therefor I think you will have a lot of fun in LOS. There are plenty of quality venues in Pattaya and BKK that do not close their doors to Indians. Just do a little homework on the forum and write down those establishments that discriminate so you can avoid them. It is their loss, not yours.
Mr Enternational
05-23-15, 14:44
You could try Devils Den as they claim to have this service on their site. I tried to call them many times, but couldn't get through to them during my stay there last week, hence am not sure if they are open.I just left LK Metro. They are open.
there is certainly discrimination in Thailand against Indians. But Thais are, if nothing, a very practical people. I am sure if you throw around enough money they will get over these prejudices in a hurry.
When are you guys planning your trip? I'm around all August and would be happy to show you around a bit.We will be there in first week of June. Would have been great to meet you and roam around with an experienced player.
Spent 3 nights here during a transit in BKK. I found the gogo bars are just way too expensive to to take out. I have not been to Pattaya for about 4-5 years and the overall quality now still not that good. I think the majority of gogo ladies are mothers and age mid to late 20's. I saw a few doable ones in various gogo bars, but by no mean cuties, but they were asking 2000-2500 plus 700-800 bar fine for a ST, probably 1 hour of lazy work. I decided not to take any. There are now so many new gogos compared to 4 years ago. The ones I like are Sensation, Sugar Baby, Happy, What's up, Iron Club, Peppermint etc.
I checked out a few BJ bars instead. I checked Loritta near LK Metro, but all the staff were really fat and old, did not see anyone looks under 30. Went to Soi 6, I did not do any prior research, some lady directed me to go to Click Bar and My friend you bar, these 2 are special oral shops. The lineups were similar to Loritta, all girls on the chunky side and no one close to be doable if full sex is involved. A less chubby lady about age 30-35 was very enthusiastic to promote herself and offer me swallow as she said I drink for you. I did not feel any excitement but took her anyways. She kept her promise about her service. I actually feel a bit pity for her sucking all these strangers cocks and swallow all these strangers' cum for a few hundred bahts.
The cost was 800 for BJ, plus my beer 120, her coke 130?. The deed was done in the sofa semi private but I was the only one in there during the 30 min.
The other night I took a motorbike taxi to 3rd road, and found the Bliss Bar, another BJ specialist, but the 6 staff were really too unattractive for me even for a BJ, I left and checked out Club 4, not far from Bliss, but impossible to describe the location by words, a motorbike boy took me there in some dark alley and later I had a big problem walking back to the main street. The lineup was about 5 with 1 girl upstairs serving blow job, and all of them also looked old around 30-35, I was tired and thirsty ordered a beer and a Sprite, a lady was nagging me to take her, not attractive a little fat but very friendly, so decided to get the job done here because all these joints were practically with similar quality of staff. Cost is quite high here, 700 BJ, plus room fee (there is curtain they close when they blow you) 300, my beer 80? Coke 70? Her drink 150? The total was like 1300.
I also checked the lineups on Beach Road, I found about 2 doable ones along the whole stretch, 1 was not too friendly so I did not talk long and the other one insists she cannot blow till finish, I did not take her and she was taken a few min later by some Korean looking middle age guy. I sat nearby and could hear her said loudly she wants 1500ST, I think the Korean did not bargain. I think most these Beach Rd talents could be had for less than 1000, but for some of us it's finding a needle in haystack.
Uncle Volodya
05-23-15, 18:25
We will be there in first week of June. Would have been great to meet you and roam around with an experienced player.I am sure you guys will be fine. With the kind of bankroll you guys will be rolling with its hard not to have fun. .
I'd also recommend trying out the GoGos off LK Metro: Crystal and Destiny in particular. Some good lookers there and they are more laid back. It's just a hunch, but I think they may be less likely to discriminate than the places on WS.
But I'd definitely try and woop it up at Insomnia as I advised in the last post. I've had great luck there and the FLs there are very hot and give good GFE.
Have fun and please post your experiences. I am curious to see how much bang you get for all those baht you intend to spend. Sounds like you are gearing up for an epic adventure!
Haven't you heard that one dirty fish spoils the whole pond. Yeh that's try bro. I will share with my last weekend experience in BKK. I am frequent visitor to BKK and.
Never had any problem getting in any high end Clubs, Bars or Restaurants people and girls always treat me with respect and dignity because I do the same. Last weekend two of my Indian friends from New Delhi Joined me in BKK and they wanted to do clubbing, So onus was on me to take them out.
We went to Levels around midnight as usual security staff greeted me and ask me where I have been. I told them work is keeping me busy these days. Inside we were.
Having good time drinking and dancing. One of my friends liked one girl standing alone at the corner so we called her over. She seemed to be nice girl working in mobile shop and here in levels to make some quick money. After few hours we decided to move to Mixx along with that girl. She offered us ride in her car but don't know.
Where Mixx is, so she asked me if I know the direction and I said yes. Once in Mixx again we had a good time, all the security people coming to me and saying Hi. I tip.
Them 20 bhat each generally inside there is 4-5 security guys. In total it cost me around 100 bhat but the respect they give me is worth more than that. I never have to stand in q or ever have to go through body check.
Now here is the main point. My friend from Delhi sealed the deal with this girl for 4000 bhat till afternoon. Around 4 in morning we all left Mixx. My friend and that girl.
Left to his hotel in her car and I took taxi to my hotel. Around 12 in noon I got a text from that girl saying that how come I am so good and my friend so bad. I asked her what happened. She told me that my friend gave her only $100 bill I. E 3200 bhat instead of 4000 bhat as promised and said that's all he got right now. I had no answer.
And told her that I will talk to my friend.
Now what do you think this girl is going to do from next time. 1. She is not going to go with any Indian guy. 2. If she dares to go with them she will ask for money up.
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Please do not post text with unnecessary hard returns in the Forum. Thanks!It has taken more than one bad fish to spoil the pond. Actually to be truthful it not just a pond but an ocean they have spoiled or maybe the 7 seas. This reputation has been well earned, deserving and paid for.
I hope you made up the difference to her? Now it is your name on the line. That is why I go solo and conduct my own business, pay and tip to my way. Not CC ways.
It has taken more than one bad fish to spoil the pond. Actually to be truthful it not just a pond but an ocean they have spoiled or maybe the 7 seas. This reputation has been well earned, deserving and paid for.More akin to the societal Crabs in a barrel phenomenon I would say. Just today I was researching Pattaya Hotels on tripadvisor and one property had review after review mentioning the loud and obnoxious Indian tour groups which frequented the place. Cross that one off the list thank you very much!
With such a consistent level of ill public behavior it is no wonder the working girls have qualms about agreeing to private hookups.
SunLover.
ActionOriented
05-24-15, 04:59
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I'd also recommend trying out the GoGos off LK Metro: Crystal and Destiny in particular. Some good lookers there and they are more laid back. It's just a hunch, but I think they may be less likely to discriminate than the places on WS....They discriminate as well. I had falang friends waiting inside Crystal and the thai doorman didn't seem convinced. He looked to his falang boss (or manager) who finally agreed to let me in.
The Sugar / Paradise go gos towards the end of LK Metro will let solo flyers in (the decision is arbitrary).
Hi dear chap,
A nice cost report.
I have the question. How and where did you get the cheap fucks in Pattaya?
I am 58 years old with a good body but a skinny 22-29 year old asks me always 4000 bath in Thailand! Already 8 years ago!
Maybe I am just for friendly.
Second I have the remark. Ladies drinks (and buying clothes and food a lot of guys do to get "free girls") have to be put on the "fuck bill" of a girl!
(That's why I always take street walkers. Look - take to one to fuck. And throw again on the street. Maybe giving one supermarket drink in my hotel room is she looks nice).
Further; at you're home you don't just sit in house doing nothing I imagine!
Looking in bikini bars and the possibility just not the need to take "again" a woman but just take a cheap drink is the biggest biggest biggest benefit of all in Thailand.
That's much better then wasting time on watching TV / DVD.
For the first time after 8 years I can go alone (without my wife) to Thailand.
But I am so afraid to get to horny in the bikini bars.
And pay 4000 bath for a skinny younger girl (20-22 year) or again 800 bath for another ugly older one of which I get sick to have with me the whole night with me.
In fact that's what get me run out of Thailand 8 years ago again and again.
(also the drugs they put in opened bottled drinks and the stealing ladyboys).
Only the girls you remember afterwards at home where worth the money and effort!
Many times in the old days I mixed up pictures of the girls at home because they just all look all the same.
These days I just take "special girls" who "do something" to me.
Sorry for type mistakes. I am Dutch.
But hey. I am 58 years and 2 x fuck a day will do.
One question I puzzled over before my trip was the question of budget. I'm retired, I'm 60 years old, and want to make a number of trips over the next decade. The only way I'll be able to stretch the money I've saved for such follies is to set a budget each trip and try to stick to it. For this trip I set aside a budget of $6,000 Canadian. For the purposes of comparison, that would be roughly $6,200 in Australian dollars, about $4,700 in US dollars and around 3,200 in British pounds.
About $1,000 Canadian (17%) went to airfare to get me there and back. While I was there, I either walked or took the Baht bus for the most part. For accommodation I budgeted another $1,000 Canadian, which worked out to just over 900 Baht a day. For day-to-day necessities like food (bought mostly from street vendors) and other odds and sods (like smokes, beer for the room, proper massages, hair cuts, shaves, additional condoms, Kamagara, etc.), I set aside another $1,000 Canadian, which worked out to another 900 Baht a day. I deliberately set aside nothing for excursions: I had toured about Thailand two years ago: the focus of this trip was girls and I didn't intend to fritter my money away on things unrelated to the purpose. This left me roughly $3,000 Canadian, or half of my budget, to be spent on chasing girls and activities related to getting them into bed. This worked out to about 2,700 Baht a day. Converted back to Canadian dollars, this was roughly equivalent to spending $110 Canadian a day..
Pattaya Report – Day 7 (Final night).
This is my last day to monger in Pattaya. In the morning I return to Bangkok to see friends and don't expect to monger there, so this will also be my last night to monger in Thailand. Mixed feelings about this. I am getting tired and all good things must end, but I hope the day goes well.
Even though I didn't get to bed until 4:30 AM after flopping out on WS, I still crawled out of bed at 10 AM. I was hungry and crossed over to the beach side of Beach Road to view the pretty water. I passed by an attractive lady standing alone with a purse and a market bag. I smiled and she smiled back and I kept walking. Wait. Is she a FLer? I turned around and found her looking back at me. I turned around and went over to her and started talking. After a bit I said I was heading to lunch and would she like to join me. Yes, she did, and we went to Pizza Hut. She said she had worked in BKK but quit her job as her boss was mean due to declining sales or something, so she had an aunt in Pattaya who said she could get a job down here. Well, she hasn't been able to find one yet. Later, in asking more about her family, she said she had a son in a BKK hospital needing an operation for a stomach condition and, while he could stay in the hospital for free, she needed 5000 B for the surgery. Well, hmm. The girl has very good English, is nicely dressed, has very good manners and is clean and well groomed. She does not look at all like a typical FLer or bar girl. She actually looks like she has some Indian in her. But really, this is a classy woman. Very slender, and I was shocked when she said she was 38. I really don't know if the story about needing 5000 B by Monday is true or not. Irrelevant to me, but I then asked her what she was out doing on Beach Road. "Trying to sell myself" was the blunt answer! She knew of no other way to get the money she needed. I am thinking I have another potential GFE here, so I asked if she wanted to come with me to my hotel, and she does. Back in my room, she showers, then I shower and we come together in bed. She is pretty flat chested and probably doesn't have an ounce of unnecessary fat on her. Very tight and toned, with dark skin. I am kind of disappointed in that she quickly goes to BBBJ. Guess this won't be a GFE after all, but the BJ is nicely done. She takes me in deep and does it nice and slow. CIM might have been ok, but we proceed to cowboy, then doggie then missionary. At first she was super wet, but she dries out and I have to get some lube. Very little kissing. I fake an orgasm since, as I said in my last report, I am trying to conserve fluids and she really wasn't worth it. I mean, see is more than OK for a FLer I suppose, and if her story is true, I can understand her feeling some disgust for what she is having to do, but as with EMP, my first FLer, I am about the best guy she is going to find. I figure she is only worth 1000 B, but what the heck, I had a nice lunch with her so I gave her 2000 B. She did seem very grateful for that amount. She is attractive enough that she should have no problem getting another 3000 B over the weekend whether she has a sick boy in BKK or not.
Soon after that I decide to hit Soi 6. I walk up and down before heading back a third time to settle for a girl at Perry's Bar who was looking cute. Cee was her name. Not a spinner, but still a slender figure but with larger than normal breasts for a Thai girl. Sweet face and, of course, happy to see me. Bar fine there was 350 B and her rate was 1000 B. My kind of numbers. We go upstairs and shower. In bed, she immediately starts with a vigorous BBBJ. She is a little rough with the jewels and I have to tell her to slow down and take it easy. I really don't like a BJ to start when I am less than hard. I asked her to just lie next to me, and the touching helped me get harder than the BJ. When hard, on goes the condom and she slips me inside her. Sex is pretty standard. Nothing really special. She is ok though. I again decide to conserve fluids. She is sad, saying that she came and hoped that I would too. She started tugging on me but was rough again and I said to stop. We cuddled a bit so I could play with her breasts, then we had a clean-up shower and I left. If you like sex fast and rough, try Cee at the Perry Bar. It is closer to Second Street than BR.
I left and walked towards to BR. I passed Offshore Bar, and Nam saw me and waved me over. She was all smiles, as cute as yesterday. I left and kept walking, thinking maybe I would try another bar, but no lady really jumped out at me so I returned to my hotel to work on this report and start packing for a mid-morning departure back to BKK. Happy yet depressed at the same time. But, yeah, if I manage to hook up with a girl tonight – and I WILL as I have conserved my fluids sufficiently that I can let some out – it will be the first time I have been with 3 ladies in one day. Is that an accomplishment I should be proud of? Probably not, as it is happening simply because I am dumb enough to spend money on tang.
I head out to WS a bit before 9 PM. Being a Friday night, it was very busy. My intent was to hit Peppermint up fairly early in the evening and check on #8, the super hot girl I have been lusting for the last few days. The previous night I had really been hitting if off with the mama san to help me out. Would it pay dividends?
First, I went to Living Dolls again. A girl I had fun with was out front and pulled me in. This was my third time here and they have some really cute girls. The girl who grabbed me apparently no longer, or maybe never did, do takeout, but she wanted me to bar fine her for 2 hours and walk around and have dinner. Ummmm, no thanks, but I was polite. She had some friends over from the night before and I bought lots of drinks, but it was getting time to head back to the Peppermint to check if #8 was available and would let me bar fine her.
Walking in, I sat down and the Mamma San quickly spots me. She says #8 is there and do I want to see her? Yes. The girl I sat with yesterday also sees me and comes over. Even though she knows I won't BF her, she knows I am generous with the LDs and she sets down next me. The Mamma San brings #8 over, who is indeed quite attractive. But she knows very little English and seems very shy. How can a woman this beautiful be shy?
Anyway, yes, I want to BF her even though the total costs will be 5200 B. Yes, a lot, but that is for long term until 10 AM the next day. This would be a bargain in the US. We finally leave and her lack of English is showing. I ask if she is hungry and she asks if I am. It is nice she is considerate of me, and with some probing I find that she might be a little hungry so we exit WS and go into the McDonalds just outside the exit. She orders a fish sandwich. We catch a blue truck back to my hotel, but we talk about massages and I ask if she wants one. She asks if I want one. I said I could use a foot massage. We stop at the corner place on Soi 13 and Second Road. She picks a back rub. I picked the foot massage. I should have picked a couples massage (or skipped a massage all together) as they took her back to a private area and I stayed out in the general area. An hour later we enter the hotel.
We talked a little and I ask how long she has been in Pattaya. She says 2 weeks. Wow. I assume she means she has only been in this business for 2 weeks! That means either I will get a GFE as that is the only sex she really knows, or she will be a starfish, totally unsure what to do and possible still scared. Again, communicating with her is difficult and many things I ask about she doesn't understand. We shower, separately. She turns on the TV while I go first. When she is done, she comes out wrapped in her towel and slips into bed. I start touching her. She lies there, dead. I pull the towel away to get access to her breasts. Awesome, soft, round and a hand full. Still no reaction from her. I pull the towel down slowly and eventually get to her V. Shaven, and after a few minutes I think I am getting her to warm up. She is very wet, but she seems to be withholding any type of emotional action. Sheesh. Starfish. Totally limp rag. I am being slow and gentle, giving her a BFE, but still no reaction from her. I think of sending her home at this point, but it late. I put on a condom and enter her. She still just lies there, and as I start thrusting, she makes some moans but I am not sure if they are moans of pleasure or moans of pain. I think that if she has only been working less than 2 weeks, for all I know, she may have only been with a few men before me, so maybe she still hurts down there, even though she didn't seem super tight. But when I ask if she is ok, she just smiles. I ask for doggie and she quickly changes position. She is very nice this way, but still no reaction. Back to missionary. I still can't tell if I am hurting her or not. She might have touched me a few times during this whole time, but this beautiful woman I have lusted about for several days is almost making me limp as I contemplate the moral or otherwise proper thing to do. I am thinking of stopping and just saying sorry, you are free to go, or going back to the mamma san to complain. But I don't. I figure the best thing is for me to simply finish. Viewing her body makes that a not-to-difficult task, as she is indeed beautiful.
When done, she pulls the towel back over her while I go shower. She does not take a shower. She continues to watch TV. I feel a bit guilty, though I shouldn't, and tell her I am sorry she doesn't like me and she can leave if she wants. She smiles but continues to lay there. Did she not understand? Whatever. I roll over and try to sleep. She turns the volume down a few minutes later, which I think was thoughtful. During the night our bodies touched occasionally and she never jerked away from me, so I don't think she found me repulsive. I have been the perfect gentleman with her. Well, other than continuing sex that she was not very interesting in having, that is. At a bit past 9:30 AM, I get up to get ready as my taxi is to pick me up at 10:30. She gets up and, seeing me getting dressed, she asks if it is ok for her to leave. Sure. I mean, this girl is so shy and seemed like she was doing what she was told to do. I mean, the Mamma San told her to go with me and I heard the mamma san tell her to stay with me to 10. (So I guess buttering up the mamma san does help!) Nice girl, shy and still a bit innocent I guess.
Anyway, I kind of feel sorry for the girl. So pretty and someone, for whatever reason, who is now a hooker and big, bad men will use and abuse her. She will make some good money, but at what cost? But I delve in moral issues and that is not the intent in a trip report.
Anyway, I cannot recommend #8 at the Peppermint. Awesome babe, but total dishrag in bed. You will feel great walking out with this fine lady, and I think she is a fine lady, but she will fail you in bed. Beauty fades in a dim hotel room, so spend your money on one who will be fun. However, after a while, Phon may adjust and be as crazy as the rest. But I would not bet 5200 B on it.
After she left, I finished my packing, went to the bus station for the Bell bus to BKK. Just outside of Pattaya, the driver slams on the brakes, I hear a boom then see broken glass flying by my window then a car comes spinning past my window! Yikes. The bus is ok, but the rear end of the car is smashed in. I doubt whoever was in the car survived. Bell sends out a replacement bus to take us away within 20 minutes, to their credit. I don't think Bell was at fault in the accident, but the Thailand crazy driving claims another victim. My thoughts are with the victim and his family.
I am returning to see a different girl I knew through OK Cupid that evening, one I don't expect sex with (and my expectations are later met). And, the next day, to spend my last days in Bangkok with my original Thai GF.
This ends the mongering portion of the Trip Report. 4 nights in Phuket and 7 nights in Pattaya. I may later give some conclusions here and back on the general Thailand board where this report began.
At this time I am back in the USA. It has taken over a week to get this report posted. I will have some final comments, suggestions, etc. In a few more days.
Eric Swiss
05-25-15, 06:13
I hit Insomnia just before midnight to take advantage of the cheaper beers. There were not too many people, but I approached a girl in a startingly red dress who was at a table alone with her ugly friend. Her face was very beautiful, she looked about 28, and her English was excellent. I took her out to the Oasis short-time hotel. Her body was OK, especially from the back, as her waist / hip ratio was optimal. But it still looked better in a dress. The dress had a high-cut slit on each side which revealed her thigh almost up to her waist, and I could rub against it when we walked hand-in-hand to the hotel, which was the best part.
She gave me BBBJ, then lowered herself on top of me. We switched positions many times. She convincingly faked an orgasm at least once. She was not exactly trying to hurry me up, but she was surprised that I took so long before coming. The alcohol, as usual.
For a break, I told her to take off the condom and blow me, which she did. I then put on a second condom and managed to finish off what I had started.
Overall, just a so-so experience. I think the problem of going too early is that they are not quite as desperate as at 2 am, and they think they can squeeze in another conquest before the night is over. Would I repeat? No, but I'm happy I got one more P4 P notch. All the girls are different.
IndStallion31
05-25-15, 16:44
Hi everyone,
My maiden trip is quite exciting and I'm liking it thoroughly. Reached Pattaya morning around 7 am. Had to wait for the room in LK Metropole. So went for a walk about 8. 30 am. No activity. Found very few FL's here and there. Went to walking street. Totally empty. Few massage parlors open. No good selection. Lot of touts inciting and persuading for massage and boom boom. By chance got to honey 1 body massage. As suggested by members, tried it. It was 11 am. Only 3 girls available. Blue badge 2500 b. Ted badge 2000 b. Me and my friend chose two blue badge. It was my first soapy. Quite White exciting. The girl did lot of pleasing work throughout. Good slides and great fuck in multiple positions. Had 2 pops with her. Tipped her 200 b for great 90 minutes. Came back. Slept for an hour. Had lunch.
Went to Soi 6 around 4 pm. Not great collection. Nothing exciting. Came back to room. Saw a FL in beach road. Chubby and cute and fleshy. Spoke to her and negotiated for 1000 b for st. Had a decent session. Took rest after seeing off her. Worked our for 40 mins. Got ready. Came out at 8 pm. Places started getting crowded. Soi LK metro gogo's were good. Lot of girls were excited to see a client and were literally pulling me inside. Excused myself. Beach road good collection around 9 pm. Few ladyboys too. No issues but. Sitting now at Insomnia. Very few fls. Thinking of hitting Pier or Mixxx.
Lot of Chinese crowd outside. Indians not hated that much. I think one's attitude behavior and conduct matters.
If anyone can suggest proper timings to hit clubs and beach road for fls it would be helpful.
Secondly I would like to try a soapy with porn star experience and good body slide skills. Can anyone suggest better than soapy??
Thinking of trying a BJ bar also tomorrow. Let's see how it goes. Might hit [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s.
But before that let's see how the night goes.
Surya
First of all I must commend Wild Bill on a full and thorough Pattaya education. I am 36 and I want to be like Wild Bill when I grow up. I will be in Thailand for the very first time in August and split it between see. Mai, Phuket, BKK with the most time being spent in Pattaya, around 4 nights maybe a couple more.
Personally I don't care for looks within reason, I will not be specifically seeking out stunners, just girls who are good at what they do. Also not hugely into quick boom boom, but I will try it on occasion in the beer bars. The go go bars hold no interest for me, maybe as a once off for the experience. My main focus from all the research will be FL'ers and LT and I think I will adopt Wild Bill's strategy of ST during the day and LT at night, by prowling beach road and and the discos.
I have done too much RTFF and its getting addictive, I need to stop for a while. A couple of quick questions. It seems from my reading that almost everybody books the room on arrival for the best deal and the opportunity to view the room first, I think I will do the same. This may seem pretty obvious but I take it you just book a double room and confirm with the person that checks you in that there is no problem bringing over night guests without hidden charges, also do the girls normally have to show ID or register at reception or is straight to the room without stopping at reception. I would prefer the hotel or guest house with the least fuss.
Also Wild Bill mentioned Kamagra a few times, can anybody advise on where to get hold of this in Thailand or is it legal to bring your own. Any other advice appreciated.
One more thing I may set up a profile on Thai friendly as a back up as well as Tinder, as well as getting a sim card when I land.
Thanks guys.
Wolvenvacht
05-25-15, 19:09
It seems from my reading that almost everybody books the room on arrival for the best deal and the opportunity to view the room first, I think I will do the same. This may seem pretty obvious but I take it you just book a double room and confirm with the person that checks you in that there is no problem bringing over night guests without hidden charges, also do the girls normally have to show ID or register at reception or is straight to the room without stopping at reception. I would prefer the hotel or guest house with the least fuss.
I guess I'm not "everybody". I book my rooms beforehand through the services of http://www.booking.com or the like. When I arrive I can go straight to the room and don't to have to wander around with my luggage, checking and comparing hotel rooms and prices. Yes, you may save yourself a few hundred baht, but I don't feel it is worth it.
If you want to make sure the hotel is guest-friendly, just email them and ask what their joiner policy is.
Also Wild Bill mentioned Kamagra a few times, can anybody advise on where to get hold of this in Thailand or is it legal to bring your own. Any other advice appreciated.
I have no idea whether it is legal or not to import Kamagra or other Vitamin V, but all pharmacies in the mongering areas in Bangkok and Pattaya will sell it to you. Or you can ask for the Thai local variant which is even cheaper.
Uncle Volodya
05-25-15, 20:10
Personally I don't care for looks within reason, I will not be specifically seeking out stunners, just girls who are good at what they do. Also not hugely into quick boom boom, but I will try it on occasion in the beer bars. The go go bars hold no interest for me, maybe as a once off for the experience. My main focus from all the research will be FL'ers and LT and I think I will adopt Wild Bill's strategy of ST during the day and LT at night, by prowling beach road and and the discos.
Damn son, prepare for the ride of your life!
I go for stunners and it's some times hard to find them (but I always manage). But if you will settle for 6's and 7's you won't be disappointed. Not being in high demand many of these girls are horny as hell and will perform miracles in bed to keep you interested.
And they are not fat and crabby like the girls back home. LOL.
In fact, they aren't bad looking at all. You just tend to get spoiled in the candy store that is Pattaya.
Discos like Insomnia is stocked wall to wall with them.
Have fun and post your impressions!
And stay horny my friend.
Uncle-V.
P.S.: I don't use Kramagra, but I do pop the occasions Cialis when down there to keep up the pace. Good safe pills (including, Kramagra, I'm sure) are available over the counter at most reputable pharmacists.
Member #4591
05-25-15, 21:47
First of all I must commend Wild Bill on a full and thorough Pattaya education. I am 36 and I want to be like Wild Bill when I grow up. I will be in Thailand for the very first time in August and split it between see. Mai, Phuket, BKK with the most time being spent in Pattaya, around 4 nights maybe a couple more.
Personally I don't care for looks within reason, I will not be specifically seeking out stunners, just girls who are good at what they do. Also not hugely into quick boom boom, but I will try it on occasion in the beer bars. The go go bars hold no interest for me, maybe as a once off for the experience. My main focus from all the research will be FL'ers and LT and I think I will adopt Wild Bill's strategy of ST during the day and LT at night, by prowling beach road and and the discos.
I have done too much RTFF and its getting addictive, I need to stop for a while. A couple of quick questions. It seems from my reading that almost everybody books the room on arrival for the best deal and the opportunity to view the room first, I think I will do the same. This may seem pretty obvious but I take it you just book a double room and confirm with the person that checks you in that there is no problem bringing over night guests without hidden charges, also do the girls normally have to show ID or register at reception or is straight to the room without stopping at reception. I would prefer the hotel or guest house with the least fuss.
Also Wild Bill mentioned Kamagra a few times, can anybody advise on where to get hold of this in Thailand or is it legal to bring your own. Any other advice appreciated.
One more thing I may set up a profile on Thai friendly as a back up as well as Tinder, as well as getting a sim card when I land.
Thanks guys.Not pre booking your room is the worst idea. Do you think a Hilton, Holiday Inn, or any other major hotel chain are going to cheat you? This is not general practice to fly across the world and not book a hotel in advance. During high season you would get a big surprise when all the rooms are booked. You be be stuck paying 10,000 per night or 500 in a roach trap.
Two new Gentleman's clubs added to the Pattaya scene. A search of this thread did not find a previous post on this. Club 007, almost next door to Club 4. The other is Excite Club, on Soi Xzyte, aka Chaloem Phrakiat 23 ally on Google Maps. This is a diagonal road between Soi Buakhao, near LK Metro and Third Road. If you know where the Triangle Bar and Oasis AGoGo is located: From Soi Buakhao with Oasis AGoGo on the corner (your right hand side) enter Soi Chaloem Phrakiat 25, bear to the left at the Triangle bar into Soi Xzyte, go past the continental bakery and Excite Club and Cottys apartment will come up about 4/5 units down on your right hand side. Excite has been getting positive reviews on a local Pattaya Board. Supposedly some former Club 4 ladies started this club on their own.
Mr Enternational
05-26-15, 07:09
My main girl does the accounting at a gogo on Walking Street. Me and my wingman stopped in last night to see her because she said she was sad that she had not seen me in 1 day. We order 2 waters which come to 240 baht. I paid the bill and got my change back. I left 20 baht in the folder on the table that we were sitting at. I went back over to my girl to tell her that we were leaving. A girl brought the folder to my girl's desk and put the 20 baht into a big, square, clear container. No idea how many other places are like this, but it appears that at her spot the tips go into a general fund. So if you call yourself giving a tip to a particular person, then it may be the case that it is spread amongst everyone and not just your intended recipient.
You could try 24/7 pattaya outcall.com, they have masseurs sent to your hotel room. The service is reasonable & the girls are clean. I've availed the service on all the days I was there. Can also PM their contact details if required.
Hi everyone,
My maiden trip is quite exciting and I'm liking it thoroughly. Reached Pattaya morning around 7 am. Had to wait for the room in LK Metropole. So went for a walk about 8. 30 am. No activity. Found very few FL's here and there. Went to walking street. Totally empty. Few massage parlors open. No good selection. Lot of touts inciting and persuading for massage and boom boom. By chance got to honey 1 body massage. As suggested by members, tried it. It was 11 am. Only 3 girls available. Blue badge 2500 be. Ted badge 2000 be. Me and my friend chose two blue badge. It was my first soapy. Quite White exciting. The girl did lot of pleasing work throughout. Good slides and great fuck in multiple positions. Had 2 pops with her. Tipped her 200 be for great 90 minutes. Came back. Slept for an hour. Had lunch.
Went to Soi 6 around 4 pm. Not great collection. Nothing exciting. Came back to room. Saw a FL in beach road. Chubby and cute and fleshy. Spoke to her and negotiated for 1000 be for st. Had a decent session. Took rest after seeing off her. Worked our for 40 minutes. Got ready. Came out at 8 pm. Places started getting crowded. Soi LK metro gogo's were good. Lot of girls were excited to see a client and were literally pulling me inside. Excused myself. Beach road good collection around 9 pm. Few ladyboys too. No issues but. Sitting now at Insomnia. Very few fls. Thinking of hitting Pier or Mixxx.
Lot of Chinese crowd outside. Indians not hated that much. I think one's attitude behavior and conduct matters.
If anyone can suggest proper timings to hit clubs and beach road for fls it would be helpful.
Secondly I would like to try a soapy with porn star experience and good body slide skills. Can anyone suggest better than soapy??
Thinking of trying a BJ bar also tomorrow. Let's see how it goes.
But before that let's see how the night goes.
Surya.
I left 20 baht in the folder on the table that we were sitting at. I went back over to my girl to tell her that we were leaving. A girl brought the folder to my girl's desk and put the 20 baht into a big, square, clear container. No idea how many other places are like this, but it appears that at her spot the tips go into a general fund. So if you call yourself giving a tip to a particular person, then it may be the case that it is spread amongst everyone and not just your intended recipient.Mr. Enternational: It is my understanding most go gos in Pattaya and BKK share tips among the staff. If you want your server to get a tip I was told to put it in their hand directly or it goes to the genral tip fund. Personally I want to tip my server but I am uncomfortable giving my server a tip and then nothing for the rest of the staff. Perhaps you could ask your friend what is appropriate.
Does anybody else have an opinion on this? I have wondered about this for a long time.
IllusionHeart
05-26-15, 18:27
My maiden trip is quite exciting and I'm liking it thoroughly. Reached Pattaya morning around 7 am. Had to wait for the room in LK Metropole. So went for a walk about 8. 30 am. No activity. Found very few FL's here and there. Went to walking street. Totally empty. Few massage parlors open. No good selection. Lot of touts inciting and persuading for massage and boom boom. By chance got to honey 1 body massage. As suggested by members, tried it. It was 11 am. Only 3 girls available. Blue badge 2500 be. Ted badge 2000 be. Me and my friend chose two blue badge. It was my first soapy. Quite White exciting. The girl did lot of pleasing work throughout. Good slides and great fuck in multiple positions. Had 2 pops with her. Tipped her 200 be for great 90 minutes. Came back. Slept for an hour. Had lunch.
Surya.
Hi everyone,
My maiden trip is quite exciting and I'm liking it thoroughly. Reached Pattaya morning around 7 am. Had to wait for the room in LK Metropole. So went for a walk about 8. 30 am. No activity. Found very few FL's here and there. Went to walking street. Totally empty. Few massage parlors open. No good selection. Lot of touts inciting and persuading for massage and boom boom. By chance got to honey 1 body massage. As suggested by members, tried it. It was 11 am. Only 3 girls available. Blue badge 2500 b. Ted badge 2000 b. Me and my friend chose two blue badge. It was my first soapy. Quite White exciting. The girl did lot of pleasing work throughout. Good slides and great fuck in multiple positions. Had 2 pops with her. Tipped her 200 b for great 90 minutes. Came back. Slept for an hour. Had lunch.
SuryaNow dude why would you be posting twice or using two ids on the forum?
Uncle Volodya
05-26-15, 20:14
If anyone can suggest proper timings to hit clubs and beach road for fls it would be helpful.
Ummm. Probably not 8 AM. LOL. Pattaya is a late nigh town. At 8 AM you should be banging the girl you took home the night before, not trolling the MPs.
As for Soapies, I like Honey 2. But don't go until late afternoon early evening.
Now dude why would you be posting twice or using two ids on the forum?Check out post #16970 the dude is actually replying to himself: http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1724623.
SL.
Two new Gentleman's clubs added to the Pattaya scene. A search of this thread did not find a previous post on this. Club 007, almost next door to Club 4. The other is Excite Club, on Soi Xzyte, aka Chaloem Phrakiat 23 ally on Google Maps. This is a diagonal road between Soi Buakhao, near LK Metro and Third Road. If you know where the Triangle Bar and Oasis AGoGo is located: From Soi Buakhao with Oasis AGoGo on the corner (your right hand side) enter Soi Chaloem Phrakiat 25, bear to the left at the Triangle bar into Soi Xzyte, go past the continental bakery and Excite Club and Cottys apartment will come up about 4/5 units down on your right hand side. Excite has been getting positive reviews on a local Pattaya Board. Supposedly some former Club 4 ladies started this club on their own.There is also a new one at Jomtien called Passions, girls look ok there and sometimes have themed days.
You could try 24/7 pattaya outcall.com, they have masseurs sent to your hotel room. The service is reasonable & the girls are clean. I've availed the service on all the days I was there. Can also PM their contact details if required.
Hi everyone,
My maiden trip is quite exciting and I'm liking it thoroughly. Reached Pattaya morning around 7 am. Had to wait for the room in LK Metropole. So went for a walk about 8. 30 am. No activity. Found very few FL's here and there. Went to walking street. Totally empty. Few massage parlors open. No good selection. Lot of touts inciting and persuading for massage and boom boom. By chance got to honey 1 body massage. As suggested by members, tried it. It was 11 am. Only 3 girls available. Blue badge 2500 be. Ted badge 2000 be. Me and my friend chose two blue badge. It was my first soapy. Quite White exciting. The girl did lot of pleasing work throughout. Good slides and great fuck in multiple positions. Had 2 pops with her. Tipped her 200 be for great 90 minutes. Came back. Slept for an hour. Had lunch..I have the best luck at Insomnia between 1 am and 3 am. Beach Road, 10 pm should work.
Now dude why would you be posting twice or using two ids on the forum?Some error in the way the post was displayed I guess. I was replying to the request of Indstallion31.
Mr. Enternational: It is my understanding most go gos in Pattaya and BKK share tips among the staff. If you want your server to get a tip I was told to put it in their hand directly or it goes to the genral tip fund. Personally I want to tip my server but I am uncomfortable giving my server a tip and then nothing for the rest of the staff. Perhaps you could ask your friend what is appropriate.
Does anybody else have an opinion on this? I have wondered about this for a long time.What is appropriate is to leave behind the small change (the coins) as a tip for the staff. It's not common nor expected that you tip your server personally or separately, not for normal service anyway.
But if you want to do that then put it in her hand directly as you suggested. But personally I'm only doing that if she has really given me a very good time, eg. she sat with me and allowed me to grope. But when that happens she usually got a few lady drinks from me and I don't feel obligated to tip her on top of that.
My first bit of mongering in Pattaya, began by checking out a few places around Soi 7 and 8, one of the bars was pretty good with gorgeous girls dancing on the bar and I picked a great seat! A good start to the night, the other places I looked in didn't seem particularly interesting though and I made my way to walking street, had a short stop at Sky bar where all the girls were in the same school girl type outfit. Drinks pretty expensive but the atmosphere and girls were awesome!
Then headed into Secrets on Soi 14, initially it seemed pretty quiet but all the girls were huddled around one table. Apparently someone had just forked out 7 K baht to ring a bell! As things settled down to girls started paying a bit more attention to us, the mamasan even bought me a couple of drinks, though I figured I'd better reciprocate and buy her drinks too and this seemed to grab the girls' attention. Chatted to a few of the girls but eventually settled on Ammi, nice stunner can't have been older than 20, had braces (or maybe fake braces?) and she stroked me intimately the entire time I was drinking with her. My policy is first time is always short time to which she asked for 2 K baht. The mamasan said the bar fine before 2 am was 1 K and 600 after, it was about 1.15 at this time so I figured may as well wait. Once it was about 1.45 am the mamasan said it'd be OK for me to go ahead with the 600 baht bar fine. Walked back to hotel, both showered and ready to go! Ammi gave good oral, although I could feel her braces on my penis which isn't the most pleasant sensation so on with sex and Ammi energetically got on top and we humped away but not for very long! She was surprisingly loud for a Thai girl and the tight pussy and energetic humping made me blow my loud pretty quick! A memorable experience and Ammi didn't try to leave the moment I popped she got back between the sheets and we cuddled for awhile before I told her she could go.
I did find some places on walking street weren't welcoming. I'm British of Indian origin and I did find a couple places claiming they weren't open yet and at the Thai Boxing place the rude old hag of a waitress immediately told me to get out. On the other hand plenty of Thai girls were also quiet welcoming at other establishments, quiet enthusiastically inviting me inside. I was also surprised to see that the Indian Disco (Tony's on walking street) was packed out with Thai girls, given that almost all the men in there were Indian tourists I can only assume these girls were there to attract an Indian customer.
Overall I did find Pattaya more laid back than Bangkok and definitely cheaper to get around, the people seemed friendlier too with a lot more Wei-ing directed at me. There really didn't seem to be a lot to do outside the mongering scene though and unfortunately the hotel I picked (and paid for in advance) was a terrible choice.
The Green View hotel, off Soi 15, although a very central location and fairly cheap, had no noise insulation whatsoever, and the noise level was too high for me to get any sleep before 5 am! This did spoil my trip as I really didn't feel like shagging much due to sleep deprivation so I guess that's a lesson learned for the future.
Pattaya Report Day 7 (Final night).
This is my last day to monger in Pattaya. In the morning I return to Bangkok to see friends and don't expect to monger there, so this will also be my last night to monger in Thailand. Mixed feelings about this. I am getting tired and all good things must end, but I hope the day goes well.
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At this time I am back in the USA. It has taken over a week to get this report posted. I will have some final comments, suggestions, etc. In a few more days.Hi FL Hawk,
I just finished reading your reports, and I loved them. (I remember you saying you liked my reports from March in Bangkok. We are similar, age 60, relative newbies, etc).
I know some posters say they prefer to see just information, but I MUCH prefer the travelogue kind of reports, especially those like yours which have the interesting detail and share feelings / emotions and things that go wrong. And have a sense of humor and self-deprecation. I empathized a lot!
Thanks!
Hi FL Hawk,
I just finished reading your reports, and I loved them. (I remember you saying you liked my reports from March in Bangkok. We are similar, age 60, relative newbies, etc).
I know some posters say they prefer to see just information, but I MUCH prefer the travelogue kind of reports, especially those like yours which have the interesting detail and share feelings / emotions and things that go wrong. And have a sense of humor and self-deprecation. I empathized a lot!
Thanks!Thank you. I understand that the more experienced guys prefer just the facts, but I knew the facts going in and still got flustered and a bit overwhelmed by it all. I tried to provide some actual experience to aid other newbies. I was aware that I would sound a bit like a wuss perhaps to many, as how difficult can it be to pick up a girl on Walking Street? Well, some of us will have difficulty with this and I wanted to show, though actual experience, that it really is pretty easy and there is nothing to get all that flustered about.
I know that if I go back, I should have a different experience as I now have a working knowledge of how the system works. Oh, there are still things to master, such as learning how to pick up someone at a disco, and how the places along Soi 13/2, say, work, but no doubt that I will not go back to my hotel alone on the first two nights I am there!
I am sure the Pattaya of today is quite different than the Pattaya of 10 years ago, but it is still an awesome place for a man to visit, even us old dudes.
I should have went straight through to Angeles City. Pattaya is shaping up to be my worst "vacation" ever. "Land of Smiles", LOL.
Banana Boi
05-31-15, 01:26
Pattaya is shaping up to be my worst "vacation" ever. "Land of Smiles", LOL.Why?
(need to trype this part to meet 10 character minimum).
I should have went straight through to Angeles City. Pattaya is shaping up to be my worst "vacation" ever. "Land of Smiles", LOL.I am curious as to "why". We try to post our experiences, the good, bad and ugly so we can learn from each other.
I should have went straight through to Angeles City. Pattaya is shaping up to be my worst "vacation" ever. "Land of Smiles", LOL.If you can't have fun in Pattaya and think Angeles is better, you need to check your compass.
Christian G
05-31-15, 11:04
I should have went straight through to Angeles City. Pattaya is shaping up to be my worst "vacation" ever. "Land of Smiles", LOL.In the Angeles City Thread you wrote about many scams. So could you explain to us in which scams you have been involved in Pattaya? Because reading the forum it seems that the scams are much more common with freelancers in AC! I go to Thailand since 2006 (Samui, Phuket, Pattaya and Bangkok) and I never had any problem with scams.
Pattaya is shaping up to be my worst "vacation" ever. "Land of Smiles", LOL.My first visit to Pattaya started out as only so-so. It took a few of days to find my groove. Some details would help us help you right the ship.
SL.
I should have went straight through to Angeles City. Pattaya is shaping up to be my worst "vacation" ever. "Land of Smiles", LOL.Dee gwah tah pood thai dai (It's better if you can speak Thai).
Banana Boi
05-31-15, 13:25
Here is Lou32's post in the Philippines forum.
So far, Pattaya sucks. Can't wait to get to AC. The top stunners at the gogos here look like slightly above average Pinays. It turns out that most of these Thai girls are ugly to me. Filipinas turn me on but I thought I'd give these Thai women a chance. Big mistake and a waste of money. So many scams here too! The infrastructure is slightly better than AC but that's it.
I've been hoodwinked about the so called Land of Smiles. A few more days then FREEDOM! Off to the Philippines!Lou, you may want to read FLHawk's recent summary of his Pattaya trip. He had a frustrating time the first couple of nights and it turned around.
So could you explain to us in which scams you have been involved in Pattaya? Lou can clarify for us but I have a feeling the "scams" are related to Pattaya costing so much more, especially in the gogos.
Uncle Volodya
05-31-15, 16:47
Here is Lou32's post in the Philippines forum.
Lou, you may want to read FLHawk's recent summary of his Pattaya trip. He had a frustrating time the first couple of nights and it turned around.
Lou can clarify for us but I have a feeling the "scams" are related to Pattaya costing so much more, especially in the gogos.Good advice. Some of my best trips have also started out a bit sour -- I even ended up going home alone my first night last trip. Though I had some fun making out with a hottie at Destiny I was unready to pay the astronomical high season BF. But the trip quickly rebounded. I met up with my regular for a fun New Year's Eve, took home a couple of cute BR girls, scored an hot FL at I-bar and ended up meeting a new regular who is super cute and a tigress in bed.
Lou, you should listen to Banana Boi. Adjust your expectations, relax and RTFF for info.
So I stop for a beer at a very open bar, open on 2 corners and sit upfront waiting for something to catch my eye. I am guessing the Spider Girl Bar. Let me know when you are in Pattaya next, I wouldn't mind having a beer with you and swapping stories. My next trip is Aug-Sep, so 8 or so weeks away.
I have been with Eden girls for about 10 times. Based on that experience.
If you are at their place, it is very mechanical. I never enjoyed there.
On the other hand, I email them at least a day earlier with my preferences, and they send me great girls. My norm is to ask them from 11 PM, and the girls stay all night. At the hotel, it is NOT mechanical at all. On three occasions, I even asked them to send only one girl to my hotel, and the experience was great as well.Agree that if you find the right girls they are not mechanical and 11 PM booking is a great tip! Must try this out.
Any girls that you would recommend at Eden please?
Here is Lou32's post in the Philippines forum.
Lou, you may want to read FLHawk's recent summary of his Pattaya trip. He had a frustrating time the first couple of nights and it turned around.
Lou can clarify for us but I have a feeling the "scams" are related to Pattaya costing so much more, especially in the gogos.To be fair, this only happened at the Sapphire gogo so its not like I'm being scammed at every turn in Pattaya.
As a newbie (who RTFF by the way) I was pressured to pay upfront. It all seemed to be SOP and the worst I expected was a typical mechanical performance from a clockwatching girl. What I didn't expect is a fake ID and a runner before even entering the room!
Lesson learned. Eyes wide open now!
Good advice. Some of my best trips have also started out a bit sour -- I even ended up going home alone my first night last trip. Though I had some fun making out with a hottie at Destiny I was unready to pay the astronomical high season BF. But the trip quickly rebounded. I met up with my regular for a fun New Year's Eve, took home a couple of cute BR girls, scored an hot FL at I-bar and ended up meeting a new regular who is super cute and a tigress in bed.
Lou, you should listen to Banana Boi. Adjust your expectations, relax and RTFF for info.I've been in Pattaya since Saturday but I haven't been with any girl yet (except for lackluster visits to Bliss BJ Bar and a dinky massage parlor). Why?
This first trip has been terrible so far but I blame myself. I only came to Thailand because I was returning to the Philippines (which is heaven to me because I am obsessed with Pinays). I figured "Pattaya is Destination #1 so I might as well check it out". Looking at pictures of Thai women online and videos I realized that they are NOT very attractive to me. The ones who were attractive either looked like Filipinas or darker skinned Korean women. I know that I'm in the minority but that's just my preference. So now that I'm here I realize I should have gone with my gut feeling and skipped the trip. Being here and seeing these women face to face did NOT improve their looks.
Now there are a lot of pretty Thai ladies who aren't 4000 baht short time gogo girls. Unfortunately, they are almost always men. This is a situation that I think is unique to Thailand. Yes, trannys are in every city but not to the ridiculous degree that I've seen here in Pattaya. But things are looking up because in a few short days this nightmare can end and I escape to Angeles to start my REAL vacation.
In the Angeles City Thread you wrote about many scams. So could you explain to us in which scams you have been involved in Pattaya? Because reading the forum it seems that the scams are much more common with freelancers in AC! I go to Thailand since 2006 (Samui, Phuket, Pattaya and Bangkok) and I never had any problem with scams.I overstated the point when I wrote scams (plural). The only outright scam I've encountered was a 2000 baht lesson at Sapphire Agogo. Otherwise its just the usual price gouging that you'd find in any tourist city. I am surprised by how expensive Pattaya is since all I've read is about how inexpensive it is compared to other cities. It would probably help if I spoke or at least understood Thai. I stand out really, really easy as a farang sucker, LOL!
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