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Mr Enternational
09-13-15, 01:44
I am gearing up for a 100 day city-hopping trip starting mid-January. I have drafted a plan that includes Singapore, Indonesia (mostly Batam and Bali), Malaysia (mostly Kuching and Kota Kinabalu), Thailand (several locations in the south, avoiding Udon Thani because of the reported crackdown), Cambodia (Siem Reap, Sihanoukville and Phnom Penh for sure), Vietnam (tentatively Saigon, Nha Trang, the Nang, Hue, Hanoi and HaLong Bay), Hong Kong, Macau and the Philippines. In the Philippines, I was thinking of spending seven days mongering in each of Angeles City, Puerto Galera and Boracay. I'd be interested in hearing suggestions re: other destinations I should consider either in the Philippines or elsewhere.Looks like me and Soldier share the same top 4. Seven days mongering in Puerto Galera and Boracay will not work. I have not been to Boracay, but have been to Puerto Galera and can tell you that they are both "bring your own girl" places. I was in PG for 3 days of scuba diving with my own girl and was more than happy to get the hell out of there when time came. Sight seeing took all of half a day renting a motorbike and driving to see the lighthouse and the waterfall. I stayed in Sabang (kind of the city center area. You can probably walk the whole thing in 1 minute flat. You can definitely see it all by standing in 1 spot) where the dive shops are. The other area is White Beach, probably where most of the tourists who are not divers stay because of its white beach. It is also really small. Stopped through during the day while sight seeing amd there was nothing to do there either but play in the sand and the water.
Batam is a day trip from Singapore, crossing the bay on a 45 minute boat ride. Nothing there either. Had a taxi driver take us around to the fuck houses where the pimps kept changing the prices and eventually let out that they didn't want us to fuck their girls because our dicks are too big. Same as Singapore where all of the sex workers were from Indonesia or Philippines. Most people think wow Bali, but when I show them pictures of the beach they are like ugh, not what I pictured.
Vietnam is probably the nicest place I have been. Went to Nha Trang for the worst scuba diving that I have ever done. Nice sunny place again with not much to do. I found a guy on a motorbike to take me to a few fuck places. Read up on ISG because I remember them trying to fuck me over on the prices, but because I had read, I knew better. The Nang was okay but HCMC and Hanoi were great. Remember that all the tourist stuff in Vietnam is about the war. You will quickly be "over it. ".
Best thing I have ever seen on this planet: the temples in Siam Reap (2nd: Machu Picchu, 3rd: Pyramids at Giza). PP is good for a couple of days.
Hong Kong: nothing to really do there but probably the most people that I have ever seen in my life (along with Tokyo). Just a sea of people moving and crossing the street. I'm thinking where are all of these mfs going? Best street food ever though. If you like sex toys then you want to rack up at the night market on Temple. A $100 vibrator at the store in the States will cost you no more than $10 there.
Malaysia: wouldn't touch that place with a 10 foot pole if not for some of the best scuba diving in the world. My cousin's wife is from Kuching. The only way she got him to move to Malaysia was to allow him to come live in Pattaya. When the money ran out he was back in KL with her and hating life. Needless to say, he has been back stateside for the past year and has zero desire to go back to Malaysia where his wife and son are. But he is definitely ready for more Pattaya!
Mr Enternational
09-13-15, 02:08
Looking back a few weeks, it appears that about the cheapest Soi 6 girl of unknown looks wants 800 B and will not (or cannot) negotiate lower than that. In my analysis, I was referring to the really cute, young spinners for 1000 B. For 1000 B, I am speaking of the Soi 6's cream of the cream, not the old, fat and desperate.Old, fat, and desperate? Are you speaking of the monger? Because of the girls that is not the case at all. First of all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I see a lot of guys talk big shit on ISG, but when I walk around the streets of Pattaya I don't see any of these supposed creme de la creme girls on anyone's arm. Mostly I see girls that I would not give a second look to. But I am not here to judge. I am here to fuck.
Second of all, you are talking about a 200 baht difference between what you are calling an absolute dog and a stunning princess. Even in a soapie the price difference between the basic girls and the supposed top of the line girls is 4 times or so that meager difference.
Third of all, price means shit. I am not telling you what I heard; I am telling you what I KNOW! Last month I was hanging out on Soi 6 with a guy from Texas who I had met earlier at Tukcom. He took one of the baddest chicks I have ever seen on Soi 6. He told her that he would pay her barfine and she could kick it with him for the rest of the night, but he was not going to give her any money. Even I thought that was some bullshit because any of the other chicks at discos and shit may just be out to have a good time, but you know a chick is in a Soi 6 bar for money. It made no nevermind to her though. She gladly went with him and I met up with them later at the disco. I can not attest to what else happened with them, but I know that much and she was back at the bar the next day as happy as could be.
Fourth of all, I hardly ever take pictures, but I sure as shit took one of her! So you tell me what difference free, 800 baht, or 1000 baht makes as far as the looks of the girls.
Crocodilexp
09-13-15, 04:09
I am gearing up for a 100 day city-hopping trip starting mid-January. I have drafted a plan that includes Singapore, Indonesia (mostly Batam and Bali), Malaysia (mostly Kuching and Kota Kinabalu), Thailand (several locations in the south, avoiding Udon Thani because of the reported crackdown), Cambodia (Siem Reap, Sihanoukville and Phnom Penh for sure), Vietnam (tentatively Saigon, Nha Trang, the Nang, Hue, Hanoi and HaLong Bay), Hong Kong, Macau and the Philippines. In the Philippines, I was thinking of spending seven days mongering in each of Angeles City, Puerto Galera and Boracay. I'd be interested in hearing suggestions re: other destinations I should consider either in the Philippines or elsewhere.Are you skipping Jakarta? That would be a sin. It's great at many levels (from $10 at the local low end, comfortable $30 midrange, to sky-is-the-limit). The scene is not as open / accessible or foreigner-friendly as in Bangkok, but it may well be larger and better quality. Indonesia (apart from Bali) is a mostly under-explored, yet promising place, perhaps the last remaining mongering frontier. If I had time for a 100-city itinerary, I'd also hit other big cities (like Surabaya or Yogyakarta).
Many of the places on your list are thin when it comes to mongering (e. G. Puerto Galera, Nha Trang), although there could be other reasons to go. If you're into the low-end places, in Thailand there are smaller towns with a local brothel scene like Mahachai or Rayong which might be worth a visit (in place of Udon).
In Malaysia, KL is not without options, especially at the very low end (Brickfields, ACE, Petaling). Typical foreigner-oriented spots (Bukit Bintang, Beach Club) are a bit overpriced, but if you're going for breadth, they should be on the list. Diverse working girl crowd in KL: PRC / Thai / Vietnamese / Indo / ex-SU / Indian. Everything except Malaysians.
I more or less did the trip you are planning last winter. Never got around to a final assessment of all the locales I visited but agree with the other poster that Jakarta should be included. I ended up not going there as I found myself in Indonesia (Bali) during Ramadan and decided that a visit to Java did not make a lot of sense during this time. Bali was not bad but as other posters have observed, there is price creep going on there but found girls were generally always willing to accept a lower price. Negotiate! Their initial offer is usually absurd. However, with the exception of ground zero area in Kuta, it's not as obvious to spot Indo girls on the make.
Macau is worth visiting to experience the unbelievable spas there. Just RTFF for the details. However, the island is basically set up for gamblers of the Chinese persuasion. Expensive hotels and sterile environment. I was able to go the 'racetrack' in the Hotel Lisboa. Quite the experience but, unfortunately this legendary 'race' has been discontinued. Not that it mattered as it was only for the benefit of Chinese mongers.
In PHP, my first stop was Manila and Makati. Burgos street was fun as I hooked up with a local guy with wide connections on the street. The best bar I think is upstairs on the corner called Rogues. I also went to Boracay and did not like it overall but there is one disco there that rocked and had willing, inexpensive, and fun girls available almost every night -- though almost all asked me for extra money afterwards with various sob stories. The beach side walking scene at night was dubious with quite a few LB's walking about. Also, I went for a few nights in Angeles. Not really for me as there is so little to do there during the day. I also did not care for the girls I met but that could have just been me. I hear mixed reviews on Puerto Galera but never made it. Also, spent a week in Palawan. The main town, Puerto Princesa, has some girls in the local clubs near the airport, but it's not worth a flight from MNL to hang out there. The main resort town of El Nido is mainly couples and back / flash packers with a few LB's in the beach bars. Nice place but not for mongering.
I went to Vietnam several years ago and had a relatively good time in Saigon though found Hanoi to be sorely lacking. But from Hanoi, I journeyed to Haiphong and then took a ferry to Halong Bay/Cat BA island and really enjoyed one of the island MP's -- some tasty young girls from the Mekong delta. However, expect cold and rainy weather in the north overall and would recommend skipping Cat Ba entirely due to the blustery climate that time of year.
I visited both Kuching and Kina Kinabalu in Borneo. The scene in both cities is very hidden. You won't find FL's generally trolling the streets and most of the action is confined to MP's. Fellow member, Hafni, is a good source for the latter city of KK. There is a great 4 hand massage place there that he can direct you to. Kuching is a nice place but really dead for nightlife.
The same can be said for Siem Reap. The nightlife is triple weak and the local girls appear to keep a low profile and local contacts are the way to go. I did find a tuk tuk driver to send me over a few girls from a local brothel but the service was woeful. Some of the MP's have extras but many cater to rich tourists who come to see Angor Wat, etc. Pnomh Penh, on the other hand, was ridiculously easy to find hot girls. I won't go into the details; just read the thread but I found some amazing girls there. I skipped Sihioukville due to mediocre reviews on this board.
I spent a good part of the trip living in Bangkok. It's the Mecca of everywhere else. Point and click! Also, visited four islands in the Gulf. Not much to report, which says it all except Ko Samui was not as much fun as I hoped. I would certainly add Pattaya to your itinerary. It lives up to its reputation and then some.
Also, went to Penang in Malaysia but was terrible for any girls. Skip it! However, KL certainly has some interesting venues but the only problem is it's an expensive city and the prices for girls reflect the high cost of living there. They are also less likely to be GFE or at least that was my experience. Too many rich oil and gas guys there with money to burn. However, the steady depreciation of the ringgit verses most western currencies could help with the costs.
I understand that Singapore is not so great these days but maybe someone else with recent experience can comment.
I spent about 7 months in Asia total but if you don't park yourself in one city like I did, 100 days should be enough time to visit where you wish. As always, YMMV...
I am gearing up for a 100 day city-hopping trip starting mid-January. I have drafted a plan that includes Singapore, Indonesia (mostly Batam and Bali), Malaysia (mostly Kuching and Kota Kinabalu), Thailand (several locations in the south, avoiding Udon Thani because of the reported crackdown), Cambodia (Siem Reap, Sihanoukville and Phnom Penh for sure), Vietnam (tentatively Saigon, Nha Trang, the Nang, Hue, Hanoi and HaLong Bay), Hong Kong, Macau and the Philippines. In the Philippines, I was thinking of spending seven days mongering in each of Angeles City, Puerto Galera and Boracay. I'd be interested in hearing suggestions re: other destinations I should consider either in the Philippines or elsewhere.
Soldierb11
09-13-15, 07:01
Thanks for this. I'm gearing up for a 100 day trip from about mid-January to about mid-April. I had been thinking of city-hopping through the following: Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand (skipping Pattaya this time), Cambodia, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Macau and the Philippines (including about seven days each in Boracay, Angeles and Puerto Galera this time). Got a tentative plan. Got a preliminary budget. Looking now to refine it and firm it up. Hadn't been thinking of Rio or Medellin but I am going to give Latin America some thought before I settle on a plan. Thanks for this.Bill what's the goals or priorities of this trip?
Twice I have taken year long around the world trips in 2011 and 2014 the goals of the trip were 1. Sightseeing 2. Mongering.
For example in Peru I stayed a few days in Lima for mainly Mongering and enjoying the fine restaurants, I then went to Cuzco and Machu Pichu for the incredible sight seeing. While in the Philippines it was 7 days in Angeles to enjoy the ladies and 7 days in Boracay to enjoy the beaches and relax, yes I did monger a couple nights in Boracay but it wasn't my priority those days.
Contrast that with a friend of mine who is currently on a year long round the worlder. He is all about the puss. His trip is 99% Mongering. I'm honestly not sure if we were in Aqaba if he would go to Petra or go and find a seedy brothel. Sightseeing is not his priority at all. When we go to an ice cream joint some of us would choose vanilla others chocolate might be a mint chocolate chip or a butter pecan among us. You need to sit down and write down all the things you want to experience during your 100 day mega trip, look at your budget and then rough draft out a schedule.
Luckyguy7198
09-13-15, 20:05
Pardon my off-topic query. Too lazy to RTFF or visit Thepprasit. Any place in central pattaya that sells the fresh, uncut fruit?
Thank you in advance, have fun and stay safe.
Buddy, I'm going for the first time in August and I am going to be blunt here, you're going to have to put some effort in to the research. Believe me it is well worth it. Going back 10 posts is not going to cut it. Our fellow mongers are super helpful and do an awesome job of putting up some incredibly detailed information, to which I am totally grateful.
I think you misunderstood my post. My question had been where can I find LT in Pattaya. The reason I went back 10 posts is because someone had written that if I go back exactly 10 posts before mine, I would find the answer to my question. But the post exactly 10 posts before mine was about a Russian club that charged an incredible amount of money for LT, way past the ripoff stage. So I was responding specifically to that other guy, not to others, and telling him that the post he referred to did not really answer my question.
I think you misunderstood my post. My question had been where can I find LT in Pattaya. The reason I went back 10 posts is because someone had written that if I go back exactly 10 posts before mine, I would find the answer to my question. But the post exactly 10 posts before mine was about a Russian club that charged an incredible amount of money for LT, way past the ripoff stage. So I was responding specifically to that other guy, not to others, and telling him that the post he referred to did not really answer my question.Relax. You can find LT pretty much in all the clubs and bars. I don't have a problem finding it and you shouldn't either.
WildBillLewis
09-14-15, 01:42
Are you skipping Jakarta? That would be a sin. It's great at many levels (from $10 at the local low end, comfortable $30 midrange, to sky-is-the-limit). The scene is not as open / accessible or foreigner-friendly as in Bangkok, but it may well be larger and better quality. Indonesia (apart from Bali) is a mostly under-explored, yet promising place, perhaps the last remaining mongering frontier. If I had time for a 100-city itinerary, I'd also hit other big cities (like Surabaya or Yogyakarta).
Many of the places on your list are thin when it comes to mongering (e. G. Puerto Galera, Nha Trang), although there could be other reasons to go. If you're into the low-end places, in Thailand there are smaller towns with a local brothel scene like Mahachai or Rayong which might be worth a visit (in place of Udon).
In Malaysia, KL is not without options, especially at the very low end (Brickfields, ACE, Petaling). Typical foreigner-oriented spots (Bukit Bintang, Beach Club) are a bit overpriced, but if you're going for breadth, they should be on the list. Diverse working girl crowd in KL: PRC / Thai / Vietnamese / Indo / ex-SU / Indian. Everything except Malaysians.Jakarta is on the list, and you've just bumped up the time I'll spend there. Although I'm anxious to see the country (and the girls) I'm thinking that I may be overinvested in Vietnam. I had been planning to city hop from south to north and spend upwards of two weeks there in total, partly for the beaches (Nha Trang, the Nang, Hue and Ha Long Bay), but I also want to have some fun and it seems like fun might be hard to come by there. I'll look into Mahachai and Rayong, and I might drop Puerto Galera down the batting order. Thanks.
Jakarta is on the list, and you've just bumped up the time I'll spend there. Although I'm anxious to see the country (and the girls) I'm thinking that I may be overinvested in Vietnam. I had been planning to city hop from south to north and spend upwards of two weeks there in total, partly for the beaches (Nha Trang, the Nang, Hue and Ha Long Bay), but I also want to have some fun and it seems like fun might be hard to come by there. I'll look into Mahachai and Rayong, and I might drop Puerto Galera down the batting order. Thanks.Great plan you have there! I have been to Puerto Galera with ex. Phil. Girlfriend and will recommend the place. Very nice for scuba diving and snorkeling. Beautiful scenery and secluded beaches. Sabang village has maybe 6-7 go-go's and I was impressed by the quality of girls. It is small but a highly interesting place were you can have lot's of fun. 3-4 days should be enough. Vietnam is also nice and the girls are super. I would skip Malaysia and go to Pattaya instead. No place. Except Bangkok maybe. Can compete with Pattaya if you are hunting girls! As others point out; your interest for other topics apart from mongering should also be a guide. I also love Singapore and Hong Kong, but the price is much higher. Angeles City is a dump really, but nice girls can be found and the prices are low.
Went in here last night, very busy and big mix of girls, maybe 50-75 approx, 10's down to 2's and without doubt a smattering of LB's. Pole dancing, showering, stage dancing and various stage shows, no pressure to have girl sit with you, and if do virtually anything goes. Good security, drinks standard gogo prices. Bar fine last night was 1000 bhat although 1500 bhat quoted. The 10's 5000 bhat all night leaving at around 15.00 next day.
SirWilliam4
09-14-15, 16:21
Pardon my off-topic query. Too lazy to RTFF or visit Thepprasit. Any place in central pattaya that sells the fresh, uncut fruit?
Thank you in advance, have fun and stay safe.Second Road. Leading into Mike's.
WildBillLewis
09-14-15, 17:41
I more or less did the trip you are planning last winter.
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I spent about 7 months in Asia total but if you don't park yourself in one city like I did, 100 days should be enough ...Jakarta should be included:
It is now on the hit parade and climbing like a rocket.
Bali was not bad. Girls were generally always willing to accept a lower price:
I might scale back the time investment on this one and, for sure, I'll negotiate.
Macau is worth visiting to experience the unbelievable spas there:
I'll stop by for the spa experience.
In the Philippines, my first stop was Manila and Makati:
I was in Manila for two weeks about a year ago and didn't much care for the place.
Boracay:
I was there for a week about a year ago and had a good time. But maybe that was because I brought a girl from Angeles City with me.
Puerto Galera. Never made it:
I am leaning toward switching out Puerto Galera for Cebu.
Spent a week in Palawan. Puerto Princessa, has some girls in the local clubs near the airport, but it's not worth a flight from MNL:
Agreed. I was there about a year ago for a few days. Dull.
The main resort town of El Nido is mainly couples and back / flash packers with a few LB's in the beach bars. Nice place but not for mongering:
Agreed, I finished off my last trip to the Philippines with four days in El Nido; got bitten by two mosquitos and ended up with both malaria and dengue fever.
I went to Vietnam several years ago and had a relatively good time in Saigon though found Hanoi to be sorely lacking:
I'm thinking of scaling back my investment of time in Vietnam from two weeks to one.
Would recommend skipping Cat Ba entirely due to the blustery climate that time of year.
I visited both Kuching and Kina Kinabalu in Borneo. The scene in both cities is very hidden. You won't find FL's generally trolling the streets and most of the action is confined to MP's. Fellow member, Hafni, is a good source for the latter city of KK. There is a great 4 hand massage place there that he can direct you to. Kuching is a nice place but really dead for nightlife:
This surprised me. I am going to have to rethink this aspect of the trip.
The same can be said for Siem Reap. The nightlife is triple weak and the local girls appear to keep a low profile and local contacts are the way to go:
I may skip Siem Reap entirely, or maybe hit there just to see Ankor what.
Phnom Penh, on the other hand, was ridiculously easy to find hot girls:
Very good to know. I'll dial in more Phnom Pehn.
I skipped Sihanoukville due to mediocre reviews on this board:
This really surprised me. Sihanoukville has such a reputation! More research required.
I spent a good part of the trip living in Bangkok. It's the Mecca of everywhere else:
I spent two weeks there two years ago, so I might give it a miss this time.
Visited four islands in the Gulf. Not much to report, which says it all except Ko Samui was not as much fun as I hoped.
I am thinking of adding Hat Yai and Hua Hin to the hit list.
I would certainly add Pattaya to your itinerary. It lives up to its reputation and then some:
I spent four weeks there six months ago. What an awesome place!
Also, went to Penang in Malaysia but was terrible for any girls. Skip it!
Thanks for the counsel.
KL certainly has some interesting venues but the only problem is it's an expensive city.
I am debating this one for sure.
Singapore is not so great these days but maybe someone else with recent experience can comment:
Worth a quick peek, then on to surer things.
Let me close by thanking you and others for this kind of input. I appreciate the fact that it takes time to write something as detailed and as thoughtful as this. It is helping me refine my draft itinerary. Food for thought, and advice leavened with experience: exactly what I need at the planning stage.
WildBillLewis
09-14-15, 17:47
Great plan you have there! I have been to Puerto Galera and will recommend the place. Very nice for scuba diving and snorkeling. Beautiful scenery and secluded beaches. Sabang village has maybe 6-7 go-go's and I was impressed by the quality of girls.
I would skip Malaysia and go to Pattaya instead. No place, except Bangkok maybe, can compete with Pattaya if you are hunting girls!
Thanks for the comments on Puerto Galera. I am debating whether to go there or go to Cebu.
As for Pattaya, I spent 28 days in Pattaya in February of 2015. The hunting was very good indeed. I chronicled it day by day (see 28 Days in Pattaya).
Banana Boi
09-14-15, 22:41
Went in here last night, very busy and big mix of girls, maybe 50-75 approx, 10's down to 2's and without doubt a smattering of LB's. Pole dancing, showering, stage dancing and various stage shows, no pressure to have girl sit with you, and if do virtually anything goes. Good security, drinks standard gogo prices. Bar fine last night was 1000 bhat although 1500 bhat quoted. The 10's 5000 bhat all night leaving at around 15.00 next day.Where is UptoYou? The name didn't ring a bell so I just google'd it and found nothing. Are you talking about What's Up?
Where is UptoYou? The name didn't ring a bell so I just google'd it and found nothing. Are you talking about What's Up?Yes, it must be this one, sorry, its off walking street.
Some great looking girls, but I wouldn't pay these prices and have no need to, although this is what was paid by one from the group I was with.
ActionOriented
09-15-15, 03:30
Yes, it must be this one, sorry, its off walking street.
Some great looking girls, but I wouldn't pay these prices and have no need to, although this is what was paid by one from the group I was with.What's Up is an extremely high priced club (and generally crowded as well), with some great looking girls, and a few whales in the bathing areas (PL do you remember? Haha). They also put up some choreographed shows on stage, one time I remember them taking a couch onto the stage for a particular erotic dance performance.
I won't bar fine from here (and they typically won't go below 1500 baht BF before midnight in any case), but won't mind a drink, and some viewing pleasures.
P.s. There is an Up to You Bar (not a Go-Go) on soi 6 but nowhere close to WS and quality is variable.
What's Up is an extremely high priced club (and generally crowded as well), with some great looking girls, and a few whales in the bathing areas (PL do you remember? Haha). They also put up some choreographed shows on stage, one time I remember them taking a couch onto the stage for a particular erotic dance performance.
I won't bar fine from here (and they typically won't go below 1500 baht BF before midnight in any case), but won't mind a drink, and some viewing pleasures.
P.s. There is an Up to You Bar (not a Go-Go) on soi 6 but nowhere close to WS and quality is variable.100% what's up after this description whales in shower. Check choreographed shows. Check. High bar fine. Check. Sofa brought onto stage. Ahemm check.
WildBillLewis
09-15-15, 20:25
Looks like me and Soldier share the same top 4. Seven days mongering in Puerto Galera and Boracay will not work. I have not been to Boracay, but have been to Puerto Galera and can tell you that they are both "bring your own girl" places.
Batam is a day trip from Singapore, crossing the bay on a 45 minute boat ride. Nothing there either.
Most people think wow Bali, but when I show them pictures of the beach they are like ugh, not what I pictured.
Vietnam is probably the nicest place I have been. Went to Nha Trang: nice sunny place again with not much to do. The Nang was okay but HCMC and Hanoi were great.
Best thing I have ever seen on this planet: the temples in Siam Reap (2nd: Machu Picchu, 3rd: Pyramids at Giza). PP is good for a couple of days.
Hong Kong: nothing to really do there but probably the most people that I have ever seen in my life (along with Tokyo). Just a sea of people moving and crossing the street.
Malaysia: wouldn't touch that place with a 10 foot poleTwo years ago, when I was last in the Philippines, I "took sand" to Boracay and ended up enjoying it, but I was struck by the paucity of freelancers. Others have suggested that I consider switching Puerto Galera for Cebu and I'm starting to lean that way.
I was disappointed to hear about the difficulties to be expected in Batam. Bali is not racking up rave reviews from mongers either; sounds like another place where, if possible, one should "bring sand". Pity.
I appreciate your favorable comments on Vietnam. Very few others have commented at all. I was expecting Vietnam to be thin from a mongering perspective, but I am interested in see the country so I'll keep it on the hit list but likely downgrade the amount of time I spend there.
I also appreciate your comments on Siem Reap / Ankor what. I'll stop there with high expectations for the temples and low expectations for mongering (based on the feedback of others).
Thanks for the warning about Malaysia. I can't do this trip and not go there, but I can downscale the time I was planning to spend there.
I have received really helpful input from you and about 7 or 8 others, all of which will help me refine my plans.
Fast Eddie 48
09-16-15, 01:49
Looking back a few weeks, it appears that about the cheapest Soi 6 girl of unknown looks wants 800 B and will not (or cannot) negotiate lower than that. In my analysis, I was referring to the really cute, young spinners for 1000 B. For 1000 B, I am speaking of the Soi 6's cream of the cream, not the old, fat and desperate.
So is paying a 20% premium for a young and super cute spinner worth it on Soi 6? Given that 20% is less than $10, heck yes! There is no apples-to-oranges comparison, simply that the pretty girls are worth more (to me at least) than fat girls. If you can get a fattie on Soi 6 for even 500 B and be happy, then great, but that is not what I am in the market for. I can get fatties at home for free.
Also, some of the BFs on WS are 1000 B or more. Many of those bar girls are not better looking that the Soi 6 girls I am speaking of. So if have to pay a 1000 B BF and 3000 B for the girl who looks the same as the Soi 6 girl I am after, then is the Soi 6 girl not a bargain?! I saved 50%. Apples to apples here.
My comparison to girls back home simply helps to underscore that Thai girls are a great value and one can justify a trip to LOS for a vacation based on that value.
If MrE comes back and says he got a top looker at a Soi 6 bar for 500 B, I will salute him. And when I, hopefully, return in November, I will indeed negotiate harder. No one wants to be perceived as a chump.
But great discussion guys! As I have said, I am still a nube and have much to learn.To FL.
I was in pattaya for 5 days last month check out soi 6 for 3 night didn't bang any girl there this trip, there just too many option in Pattaya to overpaid for average girl there price is more than double from 5 yr ago and Quality is way down you better off just go to beach road for average girl no barfined also back in the US now miss Thailand and Asia.
Fast eddie 48.
Alexander Viv
09-16-15, 06:21
Has anyone picked up a girl for 2 hours or 12 hours of escort service from the European / Russian Strip Clubs in Walking Street? Usually in the strip clubs, there is an option of taking the girls outside. The price is a little bit expensive. Can anyone share your experience?
Hit Pattaya heavily this evening. Soi 6 is a foul smelling river, there will not be much mongering tonight. Perhaps towards the later part of evening streets will be walkable. Pramnak Hill is making the local headlines, seems mongers are leaving their sperm filled condoms Instead of disposing of them into litter bins. What is the going rate on the hill anyway 300 baht?
Key Master
09-16-15, 17:48
Hit Pattaya heavily this evening. Soi 6 is a foul smelling river, there will not be much mongering tonight. Perhaps towards the later part of evening streets will be walkable. Pramnak Hill is making the local headlines, seems mongers are leaving their sperm filled condoms Instead of disposing of them into litter bins. What is the going rate on the hill anyway 300 baht?Yes, that was a pretty good storm. Not looking too good for tonight. Doesn't seem to be draining much, but I like the discos, so got few hours or more to wait out the water to be drained.
Has anyone picked up a girl for 2 hours or 12 hours of escort service from the European / Russian Strip Clubs in Walking Street? Usually in the strip clubs, there is an option of taking the girls outside. The price is a little bit expensive. Can anyone share your experience?Yeah I did pick up from Wild Russian Girls strip club for the night for a 3 some with another local babe to my hotel. Damages for the Russian beauty was 6000 Bhat for the night.
To FL.
I was in pattaya for 5 days last month check out soi 6 for 3 night didn't bang any girl there this trip, there just too many option in Pattaya to overpaid for average girl there price is more than double from 5 yr ago and Quality is way down you better off just go to beach road for average girl no barfined also back in the US now miss Thailand and Asia.
Fast eddie 48.Thanks Eddie.
Note that I did not settle for an average girl on Soi 6. I would walk down the street to survey what was available, then turn back if I found someone that appealed to me. More often that not, after that first pass and not finding one up to my standards, I would turn back down on Beach Road to survey the FLers there. Only one time during the day over 7 days did I find a girl that I cared to be with on there. I do believe that if one can settle for a strictly average girl, BR may indeed be better if you put in the time. I walked up and down that road quite a few times, though, and the extra 300 B BF on Soi 6 for an attractive girl (two charged 1000 B and one 1500 B. This was last May) vs. An average girl was worth it to me. But for sure, it takes some effort to find a truly attractive girl on Soi 6, but I found several there. And two of those gave a very nice performance and if I can locate when I go back next time, I may try to BF them for LT.
Yes, I am missing LOS too! Starting to look at flights in November to come back!
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm guessing soi 6 has a huge turnover rate. There were a ton of girls back in May that looked pretty good, one of the bars had at least 6 girls I would have tried out. Several were brand new to the business, having just arrived in Pattaya. So I'm guessing churn and burn is the way it goes, one trip you'll find many, the next trip will be devoid of talent.
Member #4698
09-16-15, 23:00
it takes some effort to find a truly attractive girl on Soi 6, but I found several there. And two of those gave a very nice performance and if I can locate when I go back next time, I may try to BF them for LT.
I am not a frequent Soi 6 customer exactly for the reasons you state, quality is scarce, but I too have found a small number of cute gals over the years. My MO is to slowly walk the Soi back and forth for 30 minutes or so around dusk and if I do not see any worthwhile girls I move on to Go Go Land. I have found nice girls at Ruby Club, Red Point, Pussy Club and O BAR.
Another MO is to become more immersed into the Soi 6 scene, to hang out there and get to know some of the bar owners and girls better, but not being a drinker except on those occasions when its Tequila time with a hot girl, I wouldn't know about that. It's not my style to hang out in bars socializing. Now if they were serving quality reefer in them bars, I would hang out on the 6 all day long. 555. And meet some very interesting characters.
ActionOriented
09-17-15, 03:24
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm guessing soi 6 has a huge turnover rate. There were a ton of girls back in May that looked pretty good, one of the bars had at least 6 girls I would have tried out. Several were brand new to the business, having just arrived in Pattaya. So I'm guessing churn and burn is the way it goes, one trip you'll find many, the next trip will be devoid of talent.I think that's correct, the problem is predicting the season when the churn occurs is difficult unless you know the bar owners (or visit way too regularly). I have generally not been very impressed with the general quality on the soi, but look hard enough and you will find something to session with for an hour.
A GF of mine just send me some pictures from soi Buakhao and a bar we hang out at in July. Last night the bar and the soi itself was totally flooded, looks like more than half a meter of water. According to her it's not draining as the rain kept falling all night. She sits in her room, too scared to go out, or go to work.
I guess the business is pretty low today.
Uncle Volodya
09-17-15, 07:33
Yes pickings can be slim on BR. If there are at least 2-3 girls I'd take at most WS gogos, at Soi 6 there will be a oen good dirl girl every 2-3 bars.
I agree with Natty's (surprise!) strategy for BR, and practice it myself. It makes for a nice dearly evening activity. The girls usually tease me about walking up an down the Soi (what you look for? 555.
A couple more tips:
If you are looking for something specific talk to AJ, the manager at Sexy in the City. He is a gregarious and nice chap and will help you find what you are looking for.
Also, many of the bars have facebook sites with accurate pics of the girls. You can check those to find someone you like and then go out and find her in person (a fun activity!
Right now Ruby, Night wish, Spider Bar and Perry's are the ones worth checking out. At least IMHO.
While it took a bit of work, I managed to find some gems down there this August trip. Attached are some pics from August and an updated map of the Soi bars.
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle V.
Mr Enternational
09-17-15, 07:56
A GF of mine just send me some pictures from soi Buakhao and a bar we hang out at in July. Last night the bar and the soi itself was totally flooded, looks like more than half a meter of water. According to her it's not draining as the rain kept falling all night. She sits in her room, too scared to go out, or go to work.
I guess the business is pretty low today.Scared to go out? Low business? Dude, it was a tropical storm followed by flooding. Not the kind of weather you would be trying to go grab a beer and chase chicks in. People are lucky to be alive. I just hope that I am able to get home when I return from Koh Tao tomorrow.
Scared to go out? Low business? Dude, it was a tropical storm followed by flooding. Not the kind of weather you would be trying to go grab a beer and chase chicks in. People are lucky to be alive. I just hope that I am able to get home when I return from Koh Tao tomorrow.Just got back in town. Rained from Bangkok to Pattaya and still raining. At least it's not flooding yet.
ActionOriented
09-18-15, 03:20
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Right now Ruby, Night wish, Spider Bar and Perry's are the ones worth checking out. At least IMHO.
While it took a bit of work, I managed to find some gems down there this August trip. Attached are some pics from August and an updated map of the Soi bars.
.....Sweet. Nice pics Uncle V, thanks for sharing.
The pics of the flood on Bangkok Post looked troubling (not completely devastating), I guess things will hobble back to the same old soon.
While it took a bit of work, I managed to find some gems down there this August trip. Attached are some pics from August and an updated map of the Soi bars.
Uncle V.These are on par with what I have been referring to as Soi 6 super attractive girls. For 1000 B and 300 BF, I thought they were, well, a good buy.
So sorry to hear about the flooding down there! Hope no one gets hurt, but I presume it will take a while for things to dry out and get cleaned up. If these places have water damage, I hope they can recover quickly, as the high season is approaching. (As well, I hope, as my visit.).
So sorry to hear about the flooding down there! Hope no one gets hurt, but I presume it will take a while for things to dry out and get cleaned up. If these places have water damage, I hope they can recover quickly, as the high season is approaching. (As well, I hope, as my visit.).Rooms are upstairs, that's all that matters.
Rooms are upstairs, that's all that matters.You just might have to swim to get there!
"After Dark" magazine.
Does this magazine still exist?
They had a website too, and that looks like maybe it is gone now.
I used to buy this when I would come to town, it was a little bit like the souvenir program for a visit to BKK or Pattaya. Fun to look through.
Ah OK I think I found it: it is "After Dark Asia" at afterdarkasia.com.
"After Dark" magazine.
Does this magazine still exist?
They had a website too, and that looks like maybe it is gone now.
I used to buy this when I would come to town, it was a little bit like the souvenir program for a visit to BKK or Pattaya. Fun to look through.
Ah OK I think I found it: it is "After Dark Asia" at afterdarkasia.com.Funny I recognize the pictures in that page from a magazine I picked up at least 5 years ago I remember because I took one of the girls and she told me it was her in the magazine. I doubt that they update the page / paper very much because it is exactly the same pictures as 5 years ago?
"After Dark" magazine.
. Fun to look through.
.I wonder if Meow is still available (se Gallery). I sure would like to make that pussy purrrr.
Dark Knight1
09-20-15, 20:39
The pros in Thailand, Pattaya in particular have always been mercenary but in recent years they have took a turn for the worse. It seems their service quality and looks have decreased while prices have risen quite a bit especially in the bars.
Tall Dutch Guy
09-21-15, 19:26
My first post. I think this is the right forum. If not please redirect me. Thanks!
OK here we go.
Early November 10 days in Pattaya. First sex trip. And not a lot of experience with paid sex whatsoever.
I'm Dutch. 44. In shape and 6. 5 tall (1.97 m). I have no problem connecting / talking with women. I'm not shy.
I did a little work. Read a guide. Know about the different type of girls. Got some indication of cost (to get a budget). But that's it.
My plan or idea:
- First few days would like to start with a 'Girlfriend experience' I haven't been with a woman for a while and like to spend time with a gorgeous young girl for a few days / nights.
Then after a few days would like to be a little more adventurous. Have girls for short time or long time. And looking to fulfill some of my more sexy fantasies. (Multiple girls, role playing, etc.).
So my first important questions:
- Are there tips on how to spend my first day? Don't want to step into the newbie pitfalls.
- Where to find the gorgeous 'girlfriend for a few days' . And what should I pay for that? (I'm actually not looking for free sex and fall in love and end up with a relationship). It's a transaction for me to keep the distance.
- I'm quite tall. And everything downstairs is in proportion. Will I have issues having sex / penetrating fully? As the Thai girls are quite small? Any tips?
- After my girlfriend experience. I have another 4 or 5 nights for some experimenting. Any tips on this for me?
Looking forward to your advice. Many thanks. If I'm the 100 th time you see this kind of post please help me to redirect me to the right posts. I looked for it and could not find.
Thanks Dutch guy!
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Hi everyone,
First off would like to thank the community for all the helpful information I read thus far. I will be traveling to Thailand December 26- Jan 06 landing in Bangkok then Phuket and finally Pattaya. Before I jump into my question, I am 25 Year old Mexican American dude. Has anyone experienced picking up freelancers at Club Insomnia? I checked out their website and the galleries are filled with beautiful girls. Some pictures of the same girl multiple times at different dates. Are most of the girls freelancing and can get picked up or are they just normal girls out partying? There's a certain girl who I've seen multiple times in galleries who I would love to meet. As far as being an olive skin Mexican American, will it be more of a challenge to pick up girls at the club? Sorry for the newbie questions and thanks in advance. Also, if anyone wants to meet up while I'm there, I'll grab you a beer.
Red Dogger
09-22-15, 04:09
- First few days would like to start with a 'Girlfriend experience' I haven't been with a woman for a while and like to spend time with a gorgeous young girl for a few days / nights.Wrong way around. First few days sleep with as many women as possible. (with condom on).
After a while, go back to one of the women you particularly liked and tell her you would like to have her around for a few days.
It is becoming harder to get the girlfriend experience in Pattaya these days. Easier with bargirls than gogo girls. So stick to the bars.
If you go for the girlfriend experience with the first girl you pick up, she will probably not be very good at it. You need to taste a few before choosing one.
Wrong way around. First few days sleep with as many women as possible. (with condom on).
After a while, go back to one of the women you particularly liked and tell her you would like to have her around for a few days.
It is becoming harder to get the girlfriend experience in Pattaya these days. Easier with bargirls than gogo girls. So stick to the bars.
If you go for the girlfriend experience with the first girl you pick up, she will probably not be very good at it. You need to taste a few before choosing one.Agree but would also throw in some FL's. Some of them do good GFE.
As far as being an olive skin Mexican American, will it be more of a challenge to pick up girls at the club? Sorry for the newbie questions and thanks in advance. Also, if anyone wants to meet up while I'm there, I'll grab you a beer.I will let other folks respond to your questions about Insomnia. I also look Latin, with olive skin. Yes, it can be a challenge picking up girls. Thai girls are notorious for being picky, in the sense that they don't want to have anything to do with you if you are cheap, and not willing to pay their price.
Unfortunately, Indians have a reputation for being tight with money, and we can look Indians to them. IMO, very few Thai girls can distinguish between an Indian (from India) and a Latin fellow. So, you would have to deal with that and work your way through that. I have been going to Thailand since 2004 and always managed to navigate that scene.
Wrong way around. First few days sleep with as many women as possible. (with condom on).
After a while, go back to one of the women you particularly liked and tell her you would like to have her around for a few days.
It is becoming harder to get the girlfriend experience in Pattaya these days. Easier with bargirls than gogo girls. So stick to the bars.
If you go for the girlfriend experience with the first girl you pick up, she will probably not be very good at it. You need to taste a few before choosing one.Agree, better girlfriend experience more likely with a bargirl, but he also said he wanted a GFE with a gorgeous girl. It's very hard to find a bargirl above a 7 out of 10 in the looks department.
Soldierb11
09-22-15, 07:29
I did a little work. Read a guide.
- Are there tips on how to spend my first day? Don't want to step into the newbie pitfalls.
- Where to find the gorgeous 'girlfriend for a few days' . And what should I pay for that? (I'm actually not looking for free sex and fall in love and end up with a relationship). It's a transaction for me to keep the distance.
- I'm quite tall. And everything downstairs is in proportion. Will I have issues having sex / penetrating fully? As the Thai girls are quite small? Any tips?
- After my girlfriend experience. I have another 4 or 5 nights for some experimenting. Any tips on this for me?
Thanks Dutch guy!Dutch guy let me start out by saying you will make plenty of newbie mistakes but so what! We all did. To minimize the mistakes read more of the forum. Flhawk, Wildbill, mr e, uncle v have all posted some good reports the last 6 months. And yes I would go back at least 6 months to read. I am in Thailand now on my 9th trip here and shit maybe 80th?? Mongering trip and I went back and read 9 months of forum.
I think it was red dogger who replied and said you got the order all wrong. Don't look for your GFE first time. Spend the first few days as he advised trying a bunch of girls then go follow up for a second date with the one you liked the most.
The key to finding GFE is to give the girls BFE. Treat them like a working girl and they will treat you like a client. Yes the savvy ones will still treat you well hoping for a tip or repeat business but you are still their client. My guess is GFE is easier to find at Insomnia or a beer bar but GFE can be found with a Soi 6 girl or high end gogo bar or even a soapie girl after her shift.
Just as your size is proportionate to your height many Thai girls size downstairs is proportionate as well.
First day plan? Go take a girl from Soi 6 for short time in afternoon then go beer bar and gogo hopping and find a girl from there and take her ST. Then go sleep with a smile on your face and wake up and repeat.
Wolvenvacht
09-22-15, 07:39
My first post. I think this is the right forum. If not please redirect me. Thanks!
OK here we go.
Early November 10 days in Pattaya. First sex trip. And not a lot of experience with paid sex whatsoever.
I'm Dutch. 44. In shape and 6. 5 tall (1.97 m). I have no problem connecting / talking with women. I'm not shy.
I did a little work. Read a guide. Know about the different type of girls. Got some indication of cost (to get a budget). But that's it.Very well. Now also read the Pattaya forum. Go back a month at least to get a good feel of the place.
My plan or idea:
- First few days would like to start with a 'Girlfriend experience' I haven't been with a woman for a while and like to spend time with a gorgeous young girl for a few days / nights.
Then after a few days would like to be a little more adventurous. Have girls for short time or long time. And looking to fulfill some of my more sexy fantasies. (Multiple girls, role playing, etc.).
Others have already told you: first go for the porn star experience and live your wildest dreams. It is more difficult to find GFE, but if your first lady is really sweet there is a real risk you will get stuck on her and fall in the trap of many Pattaya newbies: getting a bargirl girlfriend. Sweet and caring as they may be, for them it is a job and money is the main driver.
So my first important questions:
- Are there tips on how to spend my first day? Don't want to step into the newbie pitfalls.
Get some rest and get the jet-lag out of your body. Walk around during the day, so you get a feeling of where things are. Take a baht-bus ("songthaew") and travel up and down Beach Road and Second Road. Have some tasty Thai food. If you don't trust the streetfood vendors, go to a food-court in a shopping mall.
- Where to find the gorgeous 'girlfriend for a few days' . And what should I pay for that? (I'm actually not looking for free sex and fall in love and end up with a relationship). It's a transaction for me to keep the distance.
Soi 6 is probably the easiest place to find some companions. First do a ST (short time) in the rooms above the bar; cost about 1000 baht. If you find a girl to your liking, try to take her out to your room for the whole night; cost a few thousand baht.
I you really "click" with her, you can "keep her" by going together to her bar and paying her barfine again. It is always advisable to pay on a day by day basis. Barfines need to be paid up-front; the girl's fee should be paid after she rendered her services.
- I'm quite tall. And everything downstairs is in proportion. Will I have issues having sex / penetrating fully? As the Thai girls are quite small? Any tips?
You may wish, at first, to go for somewhat older girls. They are more likely to know how to handle "big" guys. The width of your dick will rarely be a problem, but if you are really long then you should be careful not to hurt them. Perhaps you better bring your own condoms with you. Some Thai-size condoms may be to small.
- After my girlfriend experience. I have another 4 or 5 nights for some experimenting. Any tips on this for me?
Soi 6 bars, Beach Road free-lancers, massage place ladies, Walking Street agogo clubs, disco pick-ups. Devil's Den for a hot threesome, . . . The list is endless.
Looking forward to your advice. Many thanks. If I'm the 100 th time you see this kind of post please help me to redirect me to the right posts. I looked for it and could not find.
Thanks Dutch guy!
Mr Enternational
09-22-15, 07:46
If you go for the girlfriend experience with the first girl you pick up, she will probably not be very good at it. You need to taste a few before choosing one.Actually the problem will not be with the girl. This man has not has pussy since pussy had him. If he spends the first few days with the same girl then he will fall in love and end up on lockdown only to become a statistic. By that I mean that he will end up married with kids and not even have a shirt on his back years down the road. Best to start off with some Soi 6 short times until he can get over the feeling that he is actually getting some pussy and gets desensitized to the fatal lure of Thai women.
Red Dogger
09-22-15, 09:11
I you really "click" with her, you can "keep her" by going together to her bar and paying her barfine again. It is always advisable to pay on a day by day basis. Barfines need to be paid up-front; the girl's fee should be paid after she rendered her services.When I kept a girl for many days, every morning I would leave some money on the bedside table beside her phone. This was a tip, not any fixed amount, but except in cases of bad behavior, was usually 3500 Baht. I told her, so long as I am pleased, 3500. Was it too much? I have no idea.
Every afternoon we would go to her bar. I would buy myself a drink, her a lady drink, pay the barkeep the bar fine, and tip the bar keep. Were the drinks and tips necessary? I don't know, but I do know that people that worry about such things can find themselves quite unpopular. So I did not worry.
When I kept a girl for many days, every morning I would leave some money on the bedside table beside her phone. This was a tip, not any fixed amount, but except in cases of bad behavior, was usually 3500 Baht. I told her, so long as I am pleased, 3500. Was it too much? I have no idea.
Every afternoon we would go to her bar. I would buy myself a drink, her a lady drink, pay the barkeep the bar fine, and tip the bar keep. Were the drinks and tips necessary? I don't know, but I do know that people that worry about such things can find themselves quite unpopular. So I did not worry.You did what you felt right; you could afford it (I assume) and you were happy. No worry.
Let others agonise on how Baht 2500 might have been better!
Yes pickings can be slim on BR. If there are at least 2-3 girls I'd take at most WS gogos, at Soi 6 there will be a oen good dirl girl every 2-3 bars.
I agree with Natty's (surprise!) strategy for BR, and practice it myself. It makes for a nice dearly evening activity. The girls usually tease me about walking up an down the Soi (what you look for? 555.
A couple more tips:
If you are looking for something specific talk to AJ, the manager at Sexy in the City. He is a gregarious and nice chap and will help you find what you are looking for.
Also, many of the bars have facebook sites with accurate pics of the girls. You can check those to find someone you like and then go out and find her in person (a fun activity!
Right now Ruby, Night wish, Spider Bar and Perry's are the ones worth checking out. At least IMHO.
While it took a bit of work, I managed to find some gems down there this August trip. Attached are some pics from August and an updated map of the Soi bars.
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle V.That girl in the grey is quite hot. I never get that lucky on soi 6. I will admit that I have seen hot girls on that soi, but they have always been busy with customers.
Blanquiceleste
09-23-15, 02:08
My first post. I think this is the right forum. If not please redirect me. Thanks!
Nothing can prepare you for the experience that is Thailand, in particular Pattaya. Soapies are a must. Soi 6 is the easiest place on earth to get laid. WS is full of GoGo Bars and other smaller open bars. The Simon bar complexes offer some good options. Do not miss Devil's Den and make sure you get to a BJ bar like Bar de la Poste, Club 4 or My Friend You. Walk around plenty on BR / WS / Soi Bukhaow / LK Metro. Interesting things catch your eye in these places. Have fun, hang loose, don't worry much. Only word of caution. Do not display your wealth in any way. Ask as many questions as you want and don't get into things you don not understand fully.
That girl in the grey is quite hot. I never get that lucky on soi 6. I will admit that I have seen hot girls on that soi, but they have always been busy with customers.Or their phones.
Nothing can prepare you for the experience that is Thailand, in particular Pattaya. Soapies are a must. Soi 6 is the easiest place on earth to get laid. WS is full of GoGo Bars and other smaller open bars. The Simon bar complexes offer some good options. Do not miss Devil's Den and make sure you get to a BJ bar like Bar de la Poste, Club 4 or My Friend You. Walk around plenty on BR / WS / Soi Bukhaow / LK Metro. Interesting things catch your eye in these places. Have fun, hang loose, don't worry much. Only word of caution. Do not display your wealth in any way. Ask as many questions as you want and don't get into things you don not understand fully.Good and calm advises, can only underline those! However I give Devil's Den a pass, but that's up to everybody own taste.
MichaelSamuel
09-24-15, 04:47
Just came across this post and thought I could contribute. Puerto Galera is only worth it if you want to dive and still have girls available. That being said I went last year and had a good time and am going back this year. It doesn't have the selection of one of the larger destinations, but has a nice set of gogo / pickup bars and it's straightforward and easy which after a day of diving is what I am looking for anyway. Unfortunately finding good diving and girls in the same place is not that easy since usually better diving means less populated areas and need population for their to be enough girls. Phuket isn't bad for this, but the better diving is liveaboard from there. If anyone has other suggestions on places with both diving and girls would appreciate it.
Looks like me and Soldier share the same top 4. Seven days mongering in Puerto Galera and Boracay will not work. I have not been to Boracay, but have been to Puerto Galera and can tell you that they are both "bring your own girl" places. I was in PG for 3 days of scuba diving with my own girl and was more than happy to get the hell out of there when time came. Sight seeing took all of half a day renting a motorbike and driving to see the lighthouse and the waterfall. I stayed in Sabang (kind of the city center area. You can probably walk the whole thing in 1 minute flat. You can definitely see it all by standing in 1 spot) where the dive shops are. The other area is White Beach, probably where most of the tourists who are not divers stay because of its white beach. It is also really small. Stopped through during the day while sight seeing amd there was nothing to do there either but play in the sand and the water.
Batam is a day trip from Singapore, crossing the bay on a 45 minute boat ride. Nothing there either. Had a taxi driver take us around to the fuck houses where the pimps kept changing the prices and eventually let out that they didn't want us to fuck their girls because our dicks are too big. Same as Singapore where all of the sex workers were from Indonesia or Philippines. Most people think wow Bali, but when I show them pictures of the beach they are like ugh, not what I pictured.
Vietnam is probably the nicest place I have been. Went to Nha Trang for the worst scuba diving that I have ever done. Nice sunny place again with not much to do. I found a guy on a motorbike to take me to a few fuck places. Read up on ISG because I remember them trying to fuck me over on the prices, but because I had read, I knew better. The Nang was okay but HCMC and Hanoi were great. Remember that all the tourist stuff in Vietnam is about the war. You will quickly be "over it. ".
Best thing I have ever seen on this planet: the temples in Siam Reap (2nd: Machu Picchu, 3rd: Pyramids at Giza). PP is good for a couple of days.
Hong Kong: nothing to really do there but probably the most people that I have ever seen in my life (along with Tokyo). Just a sea of people moving and crossing the street. I'm thinking where are all of these mfs going? Best street food ever though. If you like sex toys then you want to rack up at the night market on Temple. A $100 vibrator at the store in the States will cost you no more than $10 there.
Malaysia: wouldn't touch that place with a 10 foot pole if not for some of the best scuba diving in the world. My cousin's wife is from Kuching. The only way she got him to move to Malaysia was to allow him to come live in Pattaya. When the money ran out he was back in KL with her and hating life. Needless to say, he has been back stateside for the past year and has zero desire to go back to Malaysia where his wife and son are. But he is definitely ready for more Pattaya!
Red Dogger
09-24-15, 10:20
My guess is GFE is easier to find at Insomnia or a beer bar but GFE can be found with a Soi 6 girl or high end gogo bar or even a soapie girl after her shift.Insomnia is a good place to find the GFE.
Mr Enternational
09-25-15, 15:50
I'm at a girl's birthday party at a bar. They tell me the roast pig is 4000 baht. Barfine is 600 baht. LT is 2000 baht. The time is now 9:50 pm.
Wolvenvacht
09-25-15, 19:17
I'm at a girl's birthday party at a bar. They tell me the roast pig is 4000 baht. Barfine is 600 baht. LT is 2000 baht. The time is now 9:50 pm.
I think the roast pig is the better bargain. ;)
I think the roast pig is the better bargain. ;)Nice one Wolvenvacht LOL, I agree with you on that one.
Blanquiceleste
09-26-15, 02:35
I'm at a girl's birthday party at a bar. They tell me the roast pig is 4000 baht. Barfine is 600 baht. LT is 2000 baht. The time is now 9:50 pm.Certainly agree with Wolven. Roast Pig (if well done) is the better bargain.
So beside dogs they also have pigs now in the bars? And they are all 'well done' if you know what I mean.
I'm at a girl's birthday party at a bar. They tell me the roast pig is 4000 baht. Barfine is 600 baht. LT is 2000 baht. The time is now 9:50 pm.600 bt barfine, 2000 bt LT for a Soi 6 girl. Is the world coming to an end and nobody told me?
Member #4698
09-26-15, 11:22
I just finished the 1st week of my 5 week Fall trip and so far it has been fucking amazing.
Makati:
First I reunited with a real sweet girl I met last March in Plan be, Makati for two nights in a row. She is a GFE to be sure and I had a great time with her.
Then the next night I met a new hottie in Bottoms. She was simply beautiful and amazing and I fell in love with her. Ha Ha. Then after our boom boom session, as I was trying to set us up in Viber, she inadvertently saw I had another girl already in my Viber account who it turns out is one of her best friends at Bottoms. T was off that night which is why I did not see her, but S suggested that we do a threesome the next night. I said I would think about it, but that I really wanted to see her, S, for sure tomorrow night and we made it a date.
What happened the next night is all too long and detailed to go into right now, but yeah, I took both girls the next night and they rocked my world! When it was all over, I had 4 hours sleep and took a plane to Thailand and I ended up in Pattaya where I am presently situated at the moment. I am pretty sure that last night in Makati will be one of the top 3 nights of all of 2015. I plan to see both girls again when I return to Manilla in late October.
Pattaya:
So two nights ago I met and barfined a cute little girl out of Sensations Go Go. She was sweet, but the sex was nothing too much to write home about especially after the amazing menage a trois I had in Manila the night before.
Now here comes the good part; after I shagged her, I dropped her off back at her bar and went barhopping. I first hit What's Up and was very impressed with the talent and friendliness of the girls. I did not barfine, but I did lay the groundwork for some future pleasurable assignments I am sure.
I then left What's up after the lesbian show and decided to take in Sapphire A Go Go. As I was walking around the bar I ran into an old favourite girl of mine, who used to work in What's Up, and who I had not seen for 3 years! She came up to me and said, "Mak, Do you remember me? We used to see a lot of each other a long time ago. " And I responded," of course I remember you, N, and I no forget you. " WOW! And she still looked great, although a little bit older in her face, but her body was still a rocket ship.
I could not believe my luck in finding her. So we got reacquainted that Thursday night and made plans to see each other the next night, Friday night, at Central Festival Mall for dinner and a you know what.
I expected some great reunion sex with her, but I got so much more. Things started out slow, but when I began to go down on her, she went absolutely wild on me. It was amazing and I know she had multiple orgasms writhing around in ecstasy. She was so wild that I must have kept the oral action going for at least 30 minutes until she asked me to fuck her. Her exact words were, "please fuck me now, Mak. ".
So we did it on the bed in mish, cowgirl, and her favorite position; doggie with her ass high in the air and with me standing on the bed with my legs wrapped around her hips. After a long time in doggie, we bounded over to the couch and continued in many more positions until I had my orgasm in a kind of scissors like position with her on her side facing me with her left leg resting high up on the top of the back cushion of the sofa and me lying sideways between her legs like a pair of scissors.
She left last night around 2 am and I am still thinking about her today. N and I plan to get together again in a few hours back at the mall, have dinner, see a movie, and then boom boom some more.
The really amazing thing about all this is that it is only the 1st week of my 5 week trip and I think I have already had 3 Oscar winning performance nights along with two real nice GFE nights, and one simple, but pleasant night. I love Asia in the low season.
So beside dogs they also have pigs now in the bars? And they are all 'well done' if you know what I mean.Was recently on soi 6 and never have I seen such low quality on the soi. Felt like I was walking through a kennel!
Was recently on soi 6 and never have I seen such low quality on the soi. Felt like I was walking through a kennel!Well, after all, it IS "LOW SEASON" not to mention being right after a major FLOOD event. WOOF!! (be there in 2 weeks myself).
at least I won't need a dinghy to float down BR
Anyone been to bar de LA posts in Soi Lengkee? I used to go to telephone bar before but I hear it closed down now. Are these the same girls and is service the same? I would love to hear from anyone been there lately thanks.
Soldierb11
09-27-15, 07:45
600 bt barfine, 2000 bt LT for a Soi 6 girl. Is the world coming to an end and nobody told me?Seems reasonable to me. ST on Soi 6 is usually 300 BF and 1000ST so why not 600/2000 for an all night?
Mr Enternational
09-27-15, 08:12
Anyone been to bar de LA posts in Soi Lengkee? I used to go to telephone bar before but I hear it closed down now. Are these the same girls and is service the same? I would love to hear from anyone been there lately thanks.When I passed by Telephone the other day there was a sign that said closed, but there were men working on the outside so I figured they were just remodeling. My buddy tells me La Poste is good at 800 baht to fuck.
IllusionHeart
09-27-15, 09:13
I just finished the 1st week of my 5 week Fall trip and so far it has been fucking amazing.
Good to read the brief from your first week on road. I am sure you must be having a great time indeed. I am looking forward to reading your experiences in PP and Jakarta (especially Malioboro if you visit).
Enjoy your trip.
IllusionHeart
09-27-15, 09:15
Anyone been to bar de LA posts in Soi Lengkee? I used to go to telephone bar before but I hear it closed down now. Are these the same girls and is service the same? I would love to hear from anyone been there lately thanks.Broxy, read back a few pages as Blanquiceleste has posted a FR on his visit to De La Post, alternatively you can search in his posts.
I plan on checking this area out more in depth next trip since I'll be staying at the Areca lodge nearby. Whats the average barfine and requested amount of cash from the girls at the gogo's in this area? Are the beer bars good pick up joints as well?
Also have a general question about Pattaya. In Bangkok there are large banks here and there offering many atm's to chose from. I've never seen one in Pattaya. Where are the banks in Pattaya?
Also have a general question about Pattaya. In Bangkok there are large banks here and there offering many atm's to chose from. I've never seen one in Pattaya. Where are the banks in Pattaya?There are several at the Avenue (2nd Road across form Soi 13), and many at Central Festival Mall.
There are several at the Avenue (2nd Road across form Soi 13), and many at Central Festival Mall.There are also ATM's at every 7/11 and food mart.
Mr Enternational
09-27-15, 22:11
Where are the banks in Pattaya?The banks are on Pattaya Nua, Pattaya Klang, Pattaya Tai, Sukhumvit, and inside of the malls. Central Festival, The Avenue, and the Big Cs. Important to remember that each ATM charges 180 baht for foreign cards. When I opened my account I only needed my passport (unless I just slipped through the cracks). Last week the lady in the bank told me that these days you need a visa that is valid for at least 1 year..
I am gearing up for a 100 day city-hopping trip starting mid-January. I have drafted a plan that includes Singapore, Indonesia (mostly Batam and Bali), Malaysia (mostly Kuching and Kota Kinabalu), Thailand (several locations in the south, avoiding Udon Thani because of the reported crackdown), Cambodia (Siem Reap, Sihanoukville and Phnom Penh for sure), Vietnam (tentatively Saigon, Nha Trang, the Nang, Hue, Hanoi and HaLong Bay), Hong Kong, Macau and the Philippines. In the Philippines, I was thinking of spending seven days mongering in each of Angeles City, Puerto Galera and Boracay. I'd be interested in hearing suggestions re: other destinations I should consider either in the Philippines or elsewhere.
Wild Bill, what is the primary purpose of your trip? If it is tourism (sightseeing, culture, history, beach, scuba diving, food, etc.) then plan accordingly. I have been to all the places on your list and then some. Tourism was the main reason. Some days I was so tired from packed sightseeing and lots of walking in the sun that I went straight to bed without even dinner, much less sex. But I will set aside a few days of downtime to monger.
If mongering is your primary purpose (I. E. Sampling the girls of different countries), then you need to reconsider going to some of these places:
Bali: It's a very expensive place, like Honolulu and Bahamas. The WGs (working girls) are mostly Indonesians from Java charging double prices. So just go to Jakarta. Don't even consider Surabaya as the quality and quantity are not even close to Jakarta.
Hong Kong: Most WGs are PRC, Viet or Pinays again at higher prices. So go to China, Vietnam and the Philippines.
Singapore & KL: Again, most WGs are PRC, Viet, Thais and Indonesians. At higher prices. Moreover, these WGs are more likely hardened pros.
Within each country: You can fuck all the Pinays in AC which has the best range of quality and quantity, so why bother going to other Filipino cities? The same in Vietnam. Get all you want in HCMC. Go to PP for Cambodians and Bangkok and Pattaya for Thais.
A little info about me: I go to Bali every year for 2-3 weeks because I have business there. I live in USA and fly into Hong Kong or Singapore first, then do the side trips. I make about 3-5 trips a year. I am going to spend the whole November in Thailand and Vietnam. Life is good.
Finally, whatever plan you work out, it will be a great adventure. Asia is a wonderful place. We look forward to your report. Be sure to bring a lot of condoms. The Asian ones will be very tight and uncomfortable.
Dasisextra
09-28-15, 09:12
I plan on checking this area out more in depth next trip since I'll be staying at the Areca lodge nearby. Whats the average barfine and requested amount of cash from the girls at the gogo's in this area? Are the beer bars good pick up joints as well?
Also have a general question about Pattaya. In Bangkok there are large banks here and there offering many atm's to chose from. I've never seen one in Pattaya. Where are the banks in Pattaya?Hi Breadman,
When is your trip planned for?
There are ATMs everywhere, if you want to open a Thai bank account you need a visa, a 6 month will do, but you also need a letter from your.
Embassy confirming your passport is original, in my case that letter had to come from consulate office in Bangkok & cost 1900 baht, even that my passport has a Thai visa they still demanded the letter, I lot of banks will not let you open an account with out a work visa & permanent.
Address, Bangkok Bank will allow with a 6 month visa & no job.
Some decent gogo's around LK, same with beer bars, you will find what you like pretty quickly.
Randy Murican
09-28-15, 10:19
Seems reasonable to me. ST on Soi 6 is usually 300 BF and 1000ST so why not 600/2000 for an all night?Mostly because the BF has traditionally been a flat rate, no matter whether you are taking the girl for LT or ST.
Seems reasonable to me. ST on Soi 6 is usually 300 BF and 1000ST so why not 600/2000 for an all night?If it seems reasonable to you pay it. It's your money. Enjoy.
Uncle Volodya
09-28-15, 17:37
I plan on checking this area out more in depth next trip since I'll be staying at the Areca lodge nearby. At the risk of starting a little stir I have to say that LK Metro IMHO is just not worth it. If Gogo girls are your thing I'd stick to WS. Prices at LK Metro are just a little lower but the quality of the girls is WAY lower.
Admittedly my sample size is pretty small and based on two nights mongering and I did not hit all the bars on LK. But thsi is my impression. If anyone else has any thoughts I'd be happy to hear them.
I only visit Soi LK for the beer bars, Devils den, some tea shops and bars on the main road where you could have a drink peacefully and watch the action. There are also a few massage parlours in the parallel road. Go gos would always be better at WS, more to choose from and probability of finding the better ones are more.
At the risk of starting a little stir I have to say that LK Metro IMHO is just not worth it. If Gogo girls are your thing I'd stick to WS. Prices at LK Metro are just a little lower but the quality of the girls is WAY lower.
Admittedly my sample size is pretty small and based on two nights mongering and I did not hit all the bars on LK. But thsi is my impression. If anyone else has any thoughts I'd be happy to hear them.
Wolvenvacht
09-28-15, 20:13
Seems reasonadble to me. ST on Soi 6 is usually 300 BF and 1000ST so why not 600/2000 for an all night?LOL, you must have at least an MBA and a PhD in Economics.
Thailand has different ideas about all such things. For instance, if business is down, they increase prices and when they have to miss a worker for a longer time they still charge the same flat rate for barfine.
It makes perfect sense doesn't it?
Member #4698
09-29-15, 06:05
At the risk of starting a little stir I have to say that LK Metro IMHO is just not worth it. If Gogo girls are your thing I'd stick to WS. Prices at LK Metro are just a little lower but the quality of the girls is WAY lower.
Admittedly my sample size is pretty small and based on two nights mongering and I did not hit all the bars on LK. But thsi is my impression. If anyone else has any thoughts I'd be happy to hear them.Uncle V,
Although I am staying at the Evergreen Areca I have had only a limited amount of free time to check out the LK Metro. That is because I have chosen, with my own free will, to spend most of my time with the Princess ever since I bumped into her again after not seeing her for 3 years at Sapphire, her new bar, on my 2nd night in town. But last night, the princess was to tired to boom boom due to lack of sleep, Ha Ha, so we had an early dinner at Fuji and then parted ways. So I decided to give the LK another try. A few nights ago I had checked out Kaos and Showgirls very early in the evening so my impressions of those two bars may not be all that accurate. I hear, for example, that Showgirls gets going after 10 pm.
The first Go Go I went to last night was Queens. It is a nice size bar with a central stage. The girls appeared to be very friendly and engaging, but while quality was acceptable, to be kind, it was actually a little less than inspiring IMHO. A couple of girls were doable, but no girl was a stand out or so pretty that I had to have her. I sat with one girl and she tried to stimulate me, but I was not into it. Another girl had a great body with real sexy natural breasts with puffy nipples, but I decided to move on rather than buy her a drink. I think bars like Queens are ok, but they are pricing themselves to high. The quality is not as high as Happy or Baccara on Walking Street and not even close to the quality in places like What's Up or Sensations.
As I was walking towards Champagne Go Go with the intention of checking that Go go out, I ran into two cute, young, door girls outside Bachelor Go Go. I have never read any reviews on Bachelor, but these two girls were very friendly. One of the girls took my arm and tried to lead me into the bar. I told her I would go in if she would come with me. She smiled and in we went arm in arm. Bachelor has an interesting layout with small stages scattered informally through out the bar. Na and I sat down at the back of the bar and I bought her a drink. She was most appreciative and pretty soon thereafter we were getting to know one another more intimately through a make out session. It was all pretty high school, but I was enjoying myself. Meanwhile I checked out some of the dancers and quality was acceptable with a number of girls, but again I did not see anything amazing and I thought Na was the cutest girl there. I am sure there are plenty of other girls in the bar ready and willing to show a punter a good time, but again Bachelor seems to be pricing itself a little too high, barfine wise relative to what you can find at the better bars on Walking Street. Perhaps bar girl attitude is better here. I do not know.
A waitress came by with a tray of Tequilas and I asked Na if she wanted one. She smiled and said yes. So down the hatch. Then we played around some more kissing each other with the lemon on my lips and things heated up again between us. Na could speak hardly any English, but I found out that she was 20. After 15 minutes more of making out, the Tequila girl came by again and I bought a 2nd shot for Na. It then took a little effort to ask her if she wanted to barfine, but she finally understood what I was asking and said yes, but. So she called the maamsan over to explain her position. The mama said that Na wanted me to barfine her, but she wanted to go out clubbing instead of going to my hotel for boom boom. The mama understood my position clearly and kind of took my side in the discussion, but she explained to me what I already knew, ie that Na was young and not a regular barfine girl. I said I understand and that I would leave things as they were for now and forget about the barfine. So Na and I went back to our make out session. Everything was fine between us.
After a while, I felt I had mined this vein and had gotten as much pleasure as I was going to get here tonight, so I told Na that I was going to leave. She seemed real sad that I was leaving and she asked me to take her with. So the barfine subject came up again. This time a ladyboy host came by to act as translator and facilitator. Na had apparently changed her mind and now she wanted to barfine and go to my hotel room. We discussed the barfine (expensive - 900 bt) and what Na wanted for short time (2000 bt). I think the LADYBOY host was probably taking a cut on the barfine, but I agreed to the terms anyway and decided I would take a chance with this very friendly, relatively inexperienced, but extremely cute little door girl. I figured the odds were 50/50 I was going to shag her and 50/50 we were just going to have a make out session in my hotel room, but the vibe with Na was very good and I liked her a lot, so I decided to take the gamble.
As I expected, things started out very slow yet passionate in my room. Na did not want me to remove her bra, but she allowed me to pop her pretty little "be" cup naturals out so I could kiss them. I took my time and moved around kissing her breasts, lips, face neck and ears. Then I sat up and began to unzip her shorts. She seemed a little reluctant to allow me to do this at first, but I was tender and spoke softly too her saying I really liked her, yada yada yada. I knew she did not understand what I was saying, but the tone of my voice was reassuring and universal in such a setting, so she let me unzip her shorts and I pulled them off. Then I gently placed my hand on her pussy over her panties. She said she was a good girl and I said I knew she was a good girl, that's why I liked herso. Then I moved up and kissed her all over again. I moved back down south again and began kissing her panties over her pussy. After a while I sat up and gently pulled the panties down revealing a hairy Bush. I began to slowly smoke her and ignite her flame. At first Na was very shy about what I was doing to her, but again I softly told her to relax and I would take care of her. Long story short, she became very wet and very turned on, gyrating her hips and moaning softly. I inserted my index finger into her wet pussy and continued to kiss her labia and clit. She especially seemed to like it when I would leave her clit temporarily and kiss the crease where her thigh joined her crotch and then move back to her vagina. After her orgasm, I moved up and began kissing her mouth and face again. Then she began rubbing her clit with my dick and she beckoned me on to take her. I quickly applied a Sagami 001, the only condom I will ever use in the future, LOL, and I entered her. He pussy was amazing and fit like a glove. I loved it and we made some very passionate love.
When it was over we went to the bathroom together. Na was too shy to take a shower with me. She cleaned up her pussy while sitting on the john with the remote water nozzle located nearby while I took a shower. Then we got back together on the balcony. I gave her a bottle of fresh mango juice and we held hands and tried to talk to each other. It did not matter that we did not understand the words spoken. We understood each other's feelings as expressed. We exchanged Line ID's and we hooked up. After another 30 minutes or so we went back into my room. I gave her her money and I decided to give her a really big tip (double what I would usually tip for really good service) because I liked her a lot and wanted her to know it. I also felt she had gone the distance and had given a lot of herself to me which is something that a lot of more experienced bar girls do not do. I escorted her down to the lobby and we walked hand in hand to Soi Diana where we kissed and said goodbye. She was heading back to her bar and I was going to get some sleep. The princess was not the only one suffering from a lack of sleep last night. Na asked me several times to come see her tomorrow night at Bachelor her bar. I never said I would definitely see her again, but I did tell her I would Line text her later.
Back in my room, I sent Na a line chat and wished her a good night. She immediately sent me back a icon reply and wished me a good night too. Bottom line, I really liked this little girl and would love to see her again. I feel a first time with a young girl like this is only a beginning. I think with further get togethers we could really get into some good things. She is not comparable to a Agency girl like the princess. Its like comparing mangosteen and mangos. Na's virtues are her freshness and seeming innocence. She was also very cute, warm, and a lot of fun to be with. I would love to see her again, but alas I have only two more nights in Patt and I have planed to be with the princess on both nights. Sex with the princess is on another level. This highlights my big problem in Thailand: that there are too many really nice sexy girls to shag and not enough charge time in between to even handle a small percentage of them all. Sadly I am forced to ration my sexual activity and rather ruthlessly decide who is cum worthy and who is not. I wish I could give more of myself! 555. LK Metro Go Go scene is a good thing. I do think however that the go go's hurt themselves by not giving a price incentive to punters to check them out. The best Go Go's in Patt with the highest girl quality remain on Walking Street in bars like Sensations, What's Up, Happy, and Sapphire.
Uncle Volodya
09-29-15, 07:00
Uncle V,
This highlights my big problem in Thailand: that there are too many really nice sexy girls to shag and not enough charge time in between to even handle a small percentage of them all. Sadly I am forced to ration my sexual activity and rather ruthlessly decide who is cum worthy and who is not. I wish I could give more of myself! 555. LK Metro Go Go scene is a good thing. I do think however that the go go's hurt themselves by not giving a price incentive to punters to check them out. The best Go Go's in Patt with the highest girl quality remain on Walking Street in bars like Sensations, What's Up, Happy, and Sapphire.Glad you had a great time Natty, I had no doubts you would. Your little farm fresh sweetheart sound like a real gem. I hope you get to see more of her.
The lineup at Bachelor was very bad when I went there, with a very kind gentleman from another board who is a regular there (after we had a delicious dinner at Yamato. Amazing sashimi and udon noodles there BTW, worth a visit if you like authentic old-school Japanese! We also hit a couple of other places on the Soi, but I could barely find something that held my interest (though I did end up making out with a semi-cute girl at the gogo with the big glass windows at the end towards Bukkhao (Carousel?
After that we hit up Saphire in WS and it was like night and day compared to the LK gogos we saw. Wall to wall hotties. My head was spinning just trying to choose who I wanted. I hooked up with my own little farm fresh 20 year old. Huge knockers and an incredible hour glass figure. Unreal ass to waist ration (if that makes any sense) that I appreciated while banging her in doggie on the couch. And she is a real sweetheart too. Very concerned about my enjoyment and that I wanted to see her again. We still Line to this day and I am eager to see her again next trip.
So while I am sure that hotties are to be had on the LK (you can find them most anywhere in this wonderful town) I think I will stick to the phenomenal lineups in places like Saphire and the other places you mentioned. Like you said so many girls and so little time (and energy).
Soldierb11
09-29-15, 08:29
If it seems reasonable to you pay it. It's your money. Enjoy.Yeah obviously.
I was just saying 2600 for LT seems reasonable I am paying usually double that total for LT down on WS.
Explorer8939
09-29-15, 12:13
So I was at this place on Walking Street, buying drinks for a girl with large plastic boobs, and I casually asked the price of the bar fine (I think it was 800 baht), and the girl volunteered that ST would be 3000 baht.
Is there some sort of silicon surcharge now?
BTW, as usual, the girl I was buying drinks for was not nearly as hot as another girl there with plastic bolt-ONS, this one had long blonde hair, the thing was she was getting a little long in the tooth, but otherwise really fine.
Is there a bus like the one from Suvarnabhumi to Jomtien for mid day travel or should I cross town to take that one?
Blanquiceleste
09-30-15, 01:31
The first Go Go I went to last night was Queens.
As I was walking towards Champagne Go Go with the intention of checking that Go go out, I ran into two cute, young, door girls outside Bachelor Go Go.
I quickly applied a Sagami 001, the only condom I will ever use in the future,
The best Go Go's in Patt with the highest girl quality remain on Walking Street in bars like Sensations, What's Up, Happy, and Sapphire.I have never been much of a Go Go guy but reading Natty's posts makes me want to change my mind. I will be there in mid-Oct and will certainly give it a spin.
As for the Sagami 001, I agree. There is no better condom. It kinda fits a bit too snug but the sensation of doing it bareback is irreplaceable.
Uncle Volodya
09-30-15, 07:00
I have never been much of a Go Go guy but reading Natty's posts makes me want to change my mind. I will be there in mid-Oct and will certainly give it a spin.
As for the Sagami 001, I agree. There is no better condom. It kinda fits a bit too snug but the sensation of doing it bareback is irreplaceable.Sagami. 002's work for me too and you can get them in Pattaya at Booths for 69 baht.
As for the Sagami 001, I agree. There is no better condom. It kinda fits a bit too snug but the sensation of doing it bareback is irreplaceable.Can you get Sagami 001 (European fit) in Pattaya? Are they similar size as the 002 Original?
I always bring Sagami 002 Original (European market) with me, together with traditional "Mysize" 57 for more hard banging purposes.
The Mysize 57 are perfect fit for me, while the Sagami 002 are too tight at the base (like wearing a p-ring) but OK fit at the head.
I'll be in Pattaya next week.
Mr Enternational
09-30-15, 10:43
Is there a bus like the one from Suvarnabhumi to Jomtien for mid day travel or should I cross town to take that one?There are only like a couple per day. www.belltravelservice.com But what you can do is take a taxi to the bus station in North Pattaya. Get on the bus to Mo Chit (closest bus station to DMK). Then take a taxi to Don Muang from there. (Reverse from the airport to Pattaya.) You are looking at less than 600 baht doing it that way. A taxi straight from Pattaya to DMK will cost you 1300.
Mr Enternational
09-30-15, 10:51
As for the Sagami 001, I agree. There is no better condom. It kinda fits a bit too snug but the sensation of doing it bareback is irreplaceable.After I have used Trojan Magnum Thin for so many years, they finally came out with Bareskin. I have to keep checking to make sure it is still on.
Member #4698
09-30-15, 12:50
I have never been much of a Go Go guy but reading Natty's posts makes me want to change my mind. I will be there in mid-Oct and will certainly give it a spin.
As for the Sagami 001, I agree. There is no better condom. It kinda fits a bit too snug but the sensation of doing it bareback is irreplaceable.Blanquiceleste, Last night, after a seafood dinner and then later a couple of drinks in a quiet seaside bar off the far end of walking street; the Princess, her friend On, and I dropped by Sapphire Go Go around 11:30 pm. The talent level was very good, so good it made me rethink my decision to spend so much time with the Princess. I still recall this one girl sitting next to the 3 of us with his delightfully sexy hard little body and an adorable smile to go with it. She could not have been older than 22 and I wanted her! LOL.
An interesting development occurred last night: as I said, the girls and I had dinner by the sea at a nice fish restaurant and cocktails later. The three of us had a real god time and we all enjoyed each other's company. So later as we are walking to our table in Sapphire, the Princess whispers in my ear that On would like to spend the night with us and she wants to know if I am up for it. I look at the Princess and ask her what she thinks. She smiles and says (wait for it), its up to you. I think about the amazing night I had in Makati just a week ago with Solen and Tyra and I am tempted. On has a pretty smoking hot body too. But in the end I decide to play it Sir Galahad and I say to the Princess that I am tempted by the offer, but I have to say no because if I slept with On it would CHANGE US! Yep, that's what I said! You can't make this shit up. God I love Thailand. So after a couple more drinks, and yeah, I buy a drink for the mamasan: the Princess and I take our leave and go back to the Areca. Boom Boom was once again absolutely amazing with this girl. She is like a red hot volcano as soon as I begin to smoke her / touch her in the right places.
I woke up early in the morning around 9 am. I took a fast shower, brush my teeth, and leave the princess sleeping in bed while I go grab some coffee and fresh fruit for breakfast. When I return to my room, she is still kind of in sleepy land so I take off my clothes and jump into bed with her. She smiles and stretches as she turns around to greet me and we begin our morning wake up sex.
The Sagami 001's are amazing. The heat transfer is what makes them feel like you are wearing nothing. I agree, however, they are a little tight to roll on. Maybe they make a large size? I am going to check that out when I arrive in BKK. Tonight is my last night in Patt. It has been fun week. It all went by too quick. I wish I could have had more time to fool around with some of the extremely hot young Go Go girls I saw at What's Up and Sapphire. The Princess asked me this morning what I wanted to have for dinner tonight and I said I wanted some Thai food. She knows this place outside to Patt that she says is real good. I bet it is. So I know I am going to have a great time tonight. I think we might go to Ibar later.
But I am looking forward to Bangkok tomorrow and spending the next 3 weeks there. This will be the main event of my trip.
Good news #1: I am going to have dinner tomorrow night with M. We had a little disagreement in early March 2015 and as a result, I only saw her one time in all of my March / April 2015 trip. We have since made up over Line and tomorrow night will be our reunion / makeup sex night.
Good news #2 : the princess is coming up to BKK later in the month to see her Auntie and daughter. I am going to enjoy showing her around.
Bad news: my darling little Khmer friend has just yesterday flown the coop and she is now with her sponsor somewhere in Europe. Damn, I was looking forward to spending more afternoons with her by the pool.
Where's the best street food in Pattaya? Is there any open air food area's that should be visited?
Mr Enternational
09-30-15, 20:24
Where's the best street food in Pattaya? Is there any open air food area's that should be visited?Well since all of the vendors usually move around and are never in the same place...
But I would recommend going to Thepprasit market on FrSaSu from 5 pm to 10 pm.
The best fried chicken can be found on Pattaya Klang Soi 16 across from All Seasons hotel. Closed on Sundays. I think the hotel is under a different name now.
The best fish can also be found on the same street however the place is undergoing remodeling at the moment.
Best place to eat basic Thai food is on Soi Buakow almost right across from LK metro. A plate each for me and my girlfriend and a cola for me runs 115 baht. The place is always full. Right next to a gold shop. If you blink you will miss it.
Wolvenvacht
09-30-15, 20:29
Where's the best street food in Pattaya? Is there any open air food area's that should be visited?On the left side of the Alcazar Theatre parking lot, there is a large open air food court. It is just in front of Soi 4: https://goo.gl/maps/7qdostq4LAq.
Whether it has the best street food in Pattaya is impossible to say, but I've been there with my Thai GF and she was quite happy to eat there.
After I have used Trojan Magnum Thin for so many years, they finally came out with Bareskin. I have to keep checking to make sure it is still on.Have to try these. Like you, I have been using the thin Magnums for years.
Well since all of the vendors usually move around and are never in the same place...
But I would recommend going to Thepprasit market on FrSaSu from 5 pm to 10 pm.
The best fried chicken can be found on Pattaya Klang Soi 16 across from All Seasons hotel. Closed on Sundays. I think the hotel is under a different name now.
The best fish can also be found on the same street however the place is undergoing remodeling at the moment.
Best place to eat basic Thai food is on Soi Buakow almost right across from LK metro. A plate each for me and my girlfriend and a cola for me runs 115 baht. The place is always full. Right next to a gold shop. If you blink you will miss it.What about the fried chicken spot on Pattaya Tai 16 and South Pattaya road? Yes sir.
Blanquiceleste
10-01-15, 01:13
Can you get Sagami 001 (European fit) in Pattaya? Are they similar size as the 002 Original?
I'll be in Pattaya next week.My limited knowledge on the subject tells me that Sagami 001 is available only in one size, while the 002 comes in mutiple sizes, shapes and colors. I order my stock online from a Japanese website and they take 1 week to deliver (in Singapore). I have not seen them on shelves of pharmacies or even inside sex shops. Apparently the economics of price, demand, supply does not work out for the vendor.
When I run out of stock I make do with the 002 which is fairly easily available, although the bigger size may be a tad difficult to find.
Have fun in Pattaya.
Mr Enternational
10-01-15, 02:48
What about the fried chicken spot on Pattaya Tai 16 and South Pattaya road? Yes sir.Actually the Pattaya Tai one is the one that I go to because it is closer to my house. Also it is better than the Pattaya Klang one to me, but most people swear by the Pattaya Klang one and there is always a long line.
Where's the best street food in Pattaya? Is there any open air food area's that should be visited?Another vote along so I buchao. Coming off soi honey, turn left & go about 150 m. Just past the Bangkok bank on your left side there is a pop up tent city with row tables. Can be well fed for about 50 b.
Banana Boi
10-01-15, 04:33
Since we're on the topic of food, I need a good steak once a week. I wrote down to check out Steak and Co. in LK Metro as recommended in a post a few months ago. Any other places as good or better. Would prefer to keep dinner cost under 2500 baht (food and a couple of drinks), if possible.
Since we're on the topic of food, I need a good steak once a week. I wrote down to check out Steak and Co. in LK Metro as recommended in a post a few months ago. Any other places as good or better. Would prefer to keep dinner cost under 2500 baht (food and a couple of drinks), if possible.In my opinion the best steak in Pattaya is the Golf Club Soi LK Metro.
Uncle Volodya
10-01-15, 07:22
Since we're on the topic of food, I need a good steak once a week. I wrote down to check out Steak and Co. in LK Metro as recommended in a post a few months ago. Any other places as good or better. Would prefer to keep dinner cost under 2500 baht (food and a couple of drinks), if possible.Beefeater is good. It's no Smith and Wolenski. But very solid. And nice charcoal BBQ taste. The ribeye is around 700-800 baht.
Wolvenvacht
10-01-15, 07:30
Since we're on the topic of food, I need a good steak once a week. I wrote down to check out Steak and Co. in LK Metro as recommended in a post a few months ago. Any other places as good or better. Would prefer to keep dinner cost under 2500 baht (food and a couple of drinks), if possible.Patrick's Belgian Steakhouse! http://patricksrestopattaya.com/.
Authentic Flemish cuisine.
216/51-52 Moo 10, Central Shopping Arcade, Pattaya 2nd Road.
Pattaya 20260, Chonburi, Thailand.
Phone: +66 (0) 38 720 300.
Mobile: +66 (0) 81 687 2410.
Fast Eddie 48
10-01-15, 22:02
Is there a bus like the one from Suvarnabhumi to Jomtien for mid day travel or should I cross town to take that one?To Islandboy.
No more just take a taxi to Mo chit bus station only 20 min then take the bus to pattaya only 135 bht every hour.
Fast eddie 48.
To Islandboy.
No more just take a taxi to Mo chit bus station only 20 min then take the bus to pattaya only 135 bht every hour.
Fast eddie 48.Wow, all the way to MorChit when you can take a direct BellBus with Van connection in Pattaya? Or take the free shuttle bus from Suvarnabhumi to the close by bus station and catch a government bus from there if you go for the cheapest option.
Banana Boi
10-01-15, 22:17
Thanks everyone for the steakhouse responses here and via PM. Beefeater will be first. Hope Thai girls love steak!
To Islandboy.
No more just take a taxi to Mo chit bus station only 20 min then take the bus to pattaya only 135 bht every hour.
Fast eddie 48.Thank you, I decided to go into town, visit Tulip, and proceed to Ekkemai bus station form there where it's easy to get a bus.
I have never been much of a Go Go guy but reading Natty's posts makes me want to change my mind. I will be there in mid-Oct and will certainly give it a spin.
As for the Sagami 001, I agree. There is no better condom. It kinda fits a bit too snug but the sensation of doing it bareback is irreplaceable.I recently did some research on this. I tried out a regular generic XL condom, an Okamoto. 02 and the Sagami. 01. Condom with a lady at one sitting. (I am not a large guy. Purely average, but I was curious about the XLs.) The XL fit just snugly enough so that it would not come off. I liked the looser feeling, but the sensations of sex with them were not so good. We tried the. 02 next and it was a huge improvement. She was raving about them. Then we tried the. 01. She raved about them even more, and while I could feel a difference, it wasn't a huge difference and I am not sure if they are worth the extra cost. Anyway, she took the package they came in so she could buy her own. I believer the. 01's are around $4 to $5 each, so they are expensive, thus I would label the. 02's the best buy.
One warning though. In Phuket last time, we broke a. 01. I have never had a condom break before. When she put the condom on, she did not leave any gap at the tip. After a while, she started to dry out. We did a position change and I used a little saliva and after a bit it things were really feeling good. I was loving these. 01's! They felt like the real thing and I couldn't hold back and ejaculated. When I pulled out, she looked down there and said "It broke!" yikes. No wonder it was feeling so super good! I quickly [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)'d and showered then she spent a lot of time cleaning herself up too. Her english was not good, but I tried to assure her that I was safe. I had no STDs and I shoot blanks. Even if she understood me, she should not trust me as so many mongerers lie, but I was glad to see her be so thorough as that tended to imply she was clean too. I never caught anything at least, thank goodness.
Anyway, try to keep a little spare room at the tip, and if the girl starts to dry out a bit, use some lube. I did that thereafter and had no more issues.
Mr Enternational
10-02-15, 03:29
Wow, all the way to MorChit when you can take a direct BellBus with Van connection in Pattaya? Or take the free shuttle bus from Suvarnabhumi to the close by bus station and catch a government bus from there if you go for the cheapest option.You missed the part where he was coming in at Don Muang. Also, at 30 baht the train is actually the cheapest option.
Uncle Volodya
10-02-15, 07:52
I recently did some research on this. I tried out a regular generic XL condom, an Okamoto. 02 and the Sagami. 01. Condom with a lady at one sitting. (I am not a large guy. Purely average, but I was curious about the XLs.) The XL fit just snugly enough so that it would not come off. I liked the looser feeling, but the sensations of sex with them were not so good. We tried the. 02 next and it was a huge improvement. She was raving about them. Then we tried the. 01. She raved about them even more, and while I could feel a difference, it wasn't a huge difference and I am not sure if they are worth the extra cost. Anyway, she took the package they came in so she could buy her own. I believer the. 01's are around $4 to $5 each, so they are expensive, thus I would label the. 02's the best buy.
One warning though. In Phuket last time, we broke a. 01. I have never had a condom break before. When she put the condom on, she did not leave any gap at the tip. After a while, she started to dry out. We did a position change and I used a little saliva and after a bit it things were really feeling good. I was loving these. 01's! They felt like the real thing and I couldn't hold back and ejaculated. When I pulled out, she looked down there and said "It broke!" yikes. No wonder it was feeling so super good! I quickly and showered then she spent a lot of time cleaning herself up too. Her english was not good, but I tried to assure her that I was safe. I had no STDs and I shoot blanks. Even if she understood me, she should not trust me as so many mongerers lie, but I was glad to see her be so thorough as that tended to imply she was clean too. I never caught anything at least, thank goodness.
Anyway, try to keep a little spare room at the tip, and if the girl starts to dry out a bit, use some lube. I did that thereafter and had no more issues. I've had both the. 02's and the. 01's break as well.
You have to make sure that they are put on properly (as you point out) which is difficult as they are both kind of snug. Also they dry out as they are polyeurathane and not latex. So make sure you also have some lube handy.
They make a larger size Sagumi. 02 and I haven't' had any problems with breakage with that one. But it sells out pretty quickly at Booths and can be hard to find.
Fast Eddie 48
10-02-15, 23:05
Wow, all the way to MorChit when you can take a direct BellBus with Van connection in Pattaya? Or take the free shuttle bus from Suvarnabhumi to the close by bus station and catch a government bus from there if you go for the cheapest option.To Titanio.
If your read Islandboy post he is coming into Don Muang the old airport bell don't run there anymore, that is why I told him to go to Mo Chit is closer please RTFF before you commend.
Fast eddie 48.
JesseJames
10-03-15, 17:12
Wow, all the way to MorChit when you can take a direct BellBus with Van connection in Pattaya? Or take the free shuttle bus from Suvarnabhumi to the close by bus station and catch a government bus from there if you go for the cheapest option.There is no such thing as a "government" bus.
Whats a good portable wifi 3 g, 4 g hot spot to get in pattaya.
If your read Islandboy post he is coming into Don Muang the old airport bell don't run there anymoreI think you need to double check that as Bell Travel did stop service at DMK but recently re-instated it. It is detailed and selectable on their website: https://www.belltravelservice.com/pages/PageAboutSharedTransfer.aspx#RouteDMKPTY.
SL.
I think you need to double check that as Bell Travel did stop service at DMK but recently re-instated it. It is detailed and selectable on their website: https://www.belltravelservice.com/pages/PageAboutSharedTransfer.aspx#RouteDMKPTY.
SL.On my last trip to Pattaya, I had to get back to DMK the next day, holding over in Bangkok for one night. The hotel was maybe 10 miles from DMK. Anyway, I took the Bell bus to BKK, then got a taxi from there to go to the hotel, and another taxi the next morning to get to DMK.
This next time, I will also be going from Pattaya to DMK but without the stop over. My plan is to take the Bell bus again from Pattaya to BKK, but then get on the MTS and take it all the way to Phaya Thai, then switch trains and go all the way north to Mo Chit. From there, I will take a taxi to DMK. I hope to bypass a lot of stalled traffic.
I did see Bell has a bus direct to DMK, but they have only two departures, one at 6:30 AM (and the other at 1:30 PM. They say it can take up to 4 hours to get to DMK! Well, for one, I am not getting up in time to make that first departure! Second, the later departure is too late. I think one reason the bus may take so long is the Bangkok traffic. When I first arrived BKK last time and took a taxi to my hotel near Soi Cowboy, we were stuck in traffic and watching the trains go by. I will try to eliminate most of the traffic delay this time.
Does this seem reasonable?
On my last trip to Pattaya, I had to get back to DMK the next day, holding over in Bangkok for one night. The hotel was maybe 10 miles from DMK. Anyway, I took the Bell bus to BKK, then got a taxi from there to go to the hotel, and another taxi the next morning to get to DMK.
This next time, I will also be going from Pattaya to DMK but without the stop over. My plan is to take the Bell bus again from Pattaya to BKK, but then get on the MTS and take it all the way to Phaya Thai, then switch trains and go all the way north to Mo Chit. From there, I will take a taxi to DMK. I hope to bypass a lot of stalled traffic.
I did see Bell has a bus direct to DMK, but they have only two departures, one at 6:30 AM (and the other at 1:30 PM. They say it can take up to 4 hours to get to DMK! Well, for one, I am not getting up in time to make that first departure! Second, the later departure is too late. I think one reason the bus may take so long is the Bangkok traffic. When I first arrived BKK last time and took a taxi to my hotel near Soi Cowboy, we were stuck in traffic and watching the trains go by. I will try to eliminate most of the traffic delay this time.
Does this seem reasonable?If you have a ticket or boarding pass for fly out from DMK, you can take the shuttle bus BKK-DMK for free. That is a direct bus, no stops in between and as I remember well, it departs from door 5 on departures level. Without a ticket they will not allow you on the bus, but arriving at BKK and showing a boarding pass stating BKK arrival same day, tell them you will buy ticket at DMK counter and they accept it.
Bus ride is just one hour, all through the outskirts of Bangkok, no worries about traffic jams.
This next time, I will also be going from Pattaya to DMK but without the stop over. My plan is to take the Bell bus again from Pattaya to BKK, but then get on the MTS and take it all the way to Phaya Thai, then switch trains and go all the way north to Mo Chit. From there, I will take a taxi to DMK. I hope to bypass a lot of stalled traffic.
Does this seem reasonable?Yes; this sounds quite reasonable if you are traveling relatively lightly and do not have a ton of luggage.
SL.
Mr Enternational
10-04-15, 01:24
This next time, I will also be going from Pattaya to DMK but without the stop over. My plan is to take the Bell bus again from Pattaya to BKK, but then get on the MTS and take it all the way to Phaya Thai, then switch trains and go all the way north to Mo Chit. From there, I will take a taxi to DMK. I hope to bypass a lot of stalled traffic.
Does this seem reasonable?Seems unnecessary to go to a different airport then take 2 trains. That is 2 extra stops that you don't need to make. Why are you so concerned with bypassing traffic? It's not like you are driving. Just bring your music or watch shows on your tablet and relax or sleep. And the places you are bypassing probably won't have any traffic to begin with. Most traffic going there is concentrated around the toll booths. Also there is heavy traffic going into and out of Don Muang. Actually the other day they opened up the military part in order to relieve some of the traffic around the airport. Just keep things simple and take the bus from Pattaya to Mo Chit, leaving BKK and the trains out of it.
AussieDoug
10-04-15, 11:34
On my last trip to Pattaya, I had to get back to DMK the next day, holding over in Bangkok for one night. The hotel was maybe 10 miles from DMK. Anyway, I took the Bell bus to BKK, then got a taxi from there to go to the hotel, and another taxi the next morning to get to DMK.
This next time, I will also be going from Pattaya to DMK but without the stop over. My plan is to take the Bell bus again from Pattaya to BKK, but then get on the MTS and take it all the way to Phaya Thai, then switch trains and go all the way north to Mo Chit. From there, I will take a taxi to DMK. I hope to bypass a lot of stalled traffic.
I did see Bell has a bus direct to DMK, but they have only two departures, one at 6:30 AM (and the other at 1:30 PM. They say it can take up to 4 hours to get to DMK! Well, for one, I am not getting up in time to make that first departure! Second, the later departure is too late. I think one reason the bus may take so long is the Bangkok traffic. When I first arrived BKK last time and took a taxi to my hotel near Soi Cowboy, we were stuck in traffic and watching the trains go by. I will try to eliminate most of the traffic delay this time.
Does this seem reasonable?Unless you are on a very tight budget, take the bus to the Airport from Pattaya, then a taxi to DMK, there is expressway routings between the two airports, and those train fares are not cheap. I think there may also be a bus from Pattaya to Mo Chit??
I've been reading this website for over a year. I've traveled to Pattaya once. In all that time, I'm sure this question has never been properly answered, and I'd prefer to get an answer for someone who lives in Pattaya, but anybody who visits frequently should feel free to chime in.
Okay, how do you decline all of the sun glass / hat / ride somewhere with me merchants that harass you 24/7 on the streets?
I wear sunglasses everywhere I go, but my last trip I couldn't because it seemed like they were an open invitation for every sun glasses guy to come up and ruin my day. I would say no forcefully many times and less than two minutes later another one would be approaching me. How can I quickly make it clear I don't want to buy their trash?
Another one is LB's. Do they think it's okay to grab my abs / junk / arms anytime I walk by. Is it because I have a smile on my face from being in Pattaya? Should I try to look angry?
I don't mind saying no once or twice, but saying no 25 times in a row is annoying. It was so bad that I found myself crossing the street repeatedly just to avoid them.
How do you deal with these distractions?
For the record, I think Pattaya is still a great place and is worth visiting. I love Go-Go's and Pattaya has enough to make me think I'm in heaven.
I've been reading this website for over a year. I've traveled to Pattaya once. In all that time, I'm sure this question has never been properly answered, and I'd prefer to get an answer for someone who lives in Pattaya, but anybody who visits frequently should feel free to chime in.
Okay, how do you decline all of the sun glass / hat / ride somewhere with me merchants that harass you 24/7 on the streets?
I wear sunglasses everywhere I go, but my last trip I couldn't because it seemed like they were an open invitation for every sun glasses guy to come up and ruin my day. I would say no forcefully many times and less than two minutes later another one would be approaching me. How can I quickly make it clear I don't want to buy their trash?
Another one is LB's. Do they think it's okay to grab my abs / junk / arms anytime I walk by. Is it because I have a smile on my face from being in Pattaya? Should I try to look angry?
I don't mind saying no once or twice, but saying no 25 times in a row is annoying. It was so bad that I found myself crossing the street repeatedly just to avoid them.
How do you deal with these distractions?
For the record, I think Pattaya is still a great place and is worth visiting. I love Go-Go's and Pattaya has enough to make me think I'm in heaven.When you find the answer, get a patent. I dealt with the same thing in Sosua, minus the LBs.
For the various vendors, I found that a simple shake of the head combined with a look best described as "I just stepped in fresh dog shit", was usually effective. For the girls I just kept moving, never giving them a chance to get a good grip. I only had one try to walk with me and she gave up after half a block.
I think it's one of those things you just have to deal with.
Mr Enternational
10-05-15, 05:30
Okay, how do you decline all of the sun glass / hat / ride somewhere with me merchants that harass you 24/7 on the streets?Others will come because they are frankly just trying to make a living. After so long it's no big deal and you barely notice them. Just a polite "mai khrap" (no thanks) will do.
Another one is LB's. Do they think it's okay to grab my abs / junk / arms anytime I walk by. Is it because I have a smile on my face from being in Pattaya? Should I try to look angry?Never had a problem with LBs. You are on your own with that one! Nahh. Just tell them you like ladies. Phom shop pu ying (I like ladies). Mai shop pu chay (I do not like men). It is best not to look angry. You forget Thailand is the Land of Smiles. Even when someone is angry you will not know because they will be smiling at you. Try to adopt the same mannerism. If you start showing outside anger then it could possibly invite trouble. Just act like it is your gay cousin fucking with you. You won't die just because a man touched you. You probably shake hands and shit with your male friends all the time. They are not contagious. They are just people.
Thanks for the info Mr. Enternational. You are 50 posts away from reaching 5,000! I couldn't ask for a better expert. I'm also glad that you gave me Thai phrases to say as a way to express my disinterest. I think those will be very helpful when I visit early next year.
I think I might have worded my post wrong. I am overly friendly by nature. I grew up in the South in The USA.
We are naturally talkers and courtesy is a huge thing where I grew up. Unfortunately, smiling and saying no thank you seems to encourage the LB's or merchants. (in my experience).
I haven't been able to adopt a nonchalant bored look that portrays my utter lack of interest. I have no problem with LB's or merchants trying to earn money, and I full understand their hustle. I just feel like I'm almost leading them on by my attitude. I want to find the quickest way to let them down without hurting their feelings. Same goes for the working girls. I have a hard time saying no, even when I'm not interested.
If you start showing outside anger then it could possibly invite trouble. Just act like it is your gay cousin fucking with you. You won't die just because a man touched you. You probably shake hands and shit with your male friends all the time. They are not contagious. They are just people.I definitely don't want to invite trouble. I trained Muay Thai in Phuket before and I full appreciate Thai's ability to kick butt.
I have no problem with LB's talking or touching me. They are actually kinda funny. The problem is letting them down without feeling like a bad guy. I want a good way to say no without sounding like an A-hole, but at the same time making my intentions clear.
I think saying it in Thai might be the way to go!
If anybody is interested, I'll write a report of my first monger experience ever. (which happened in Pattaya).
I've been reading this website for over a year. I've traveled to Pattaya once. In all that time, I'm sure this question has never been properly answered, and I'd prefer to get an answer for someone who lives in Pattaya, but anybody who visits frequently should feel free to chime in.
Okay, how do you decline all of the sun glass / hat / ride somewhere with me merchants that harass you 24/7 on the streets?
I wear sunglasses everywhere I go, but my last trip I couldn't because it seemed like they were an open invitation for every sun glasses guy to come up and ruin my day. I would say no forcefully many times and less than two minutes later another one would be approaching me. How can I quickly make it clear I don't want to buy their trash?
Another one is LB's. Do they think it's okay to grab my abs / junk / arms anytime I walk by. Is it because I have a smile on my face from being in Pattaya? Should I try to look angry?
I don't mind saying no once or twice, but saying no 25 times in a row is annoying. It was so bad that I found myself crossing the street repeatedly just to avoid them.
How do you deal with these distractions?
For the record, I think Pattaya is still a great place and is worth visiting. I love Go-Go's and Pattaya has enough to make me think I'm in heaven.It never really bothers me except when I am eating on Second Road and 10 guys jump off motorcycles and try to sell me a watch. As far as the LB's touching me, does not bother me, just part of being in Pattaya. None of this is going to change so you may as well go with the flow or travel elsewhere.
Member #4698
10-05-15, 07:25
Never had a problem with LBs. You are on your own with that one! Nahh. Just tell them you like ladies. Phom shop pu ying (I like ladies). Mai shop pu chay (I do not like men). It is best not to look angry. You forget Thailand is the Land of Smiles. Even when someone is angry you will not know because they will be smiling at you. Try to adopt the same mannerism. If you start showing outside anger then it could possibly invite trouble. Just act like it is your gay cousin fucking with you. You won't die just because a man touched you. You probably shake hands and shit with your male friends all the time. They are not contagious. They are just people.Good advice Mr. E. I just treat LB's looking for a customer like unattractive working girls that I have absolutely no interest in shagging. I try to be polite while at the same time firmly indicating that I am not interested. Occasionally at Nana, the LB's working outside Charades try to interest me to enter their bar by standing in my way as I pass by and even touching my arm. It is a little game they play. I just patiently smile, look them in the eye, and say I like pussy. They always understand that and get out of my way. The important thing is to keep it light, but firm, and not show any negativity or disgust. Most of them are just trying to make a living like all the natural born working girls we love. Remember, it is their country.
Fast Eddie 48
10-05-15, 21:53
I think you need to double check that as Bell Travel did stop service at DMK but recently re-instated it. It is detailed and selectable on their website: https://www.belltravelservice.com/pages/PageAboutSharedTransfer.aspx#RouteDMKPTY.
SL.To Sunlover 2.
Look like they are running again but only twice a day so is still better just taxi to Mo chit bus station bus every hour to pattaya.
Fast eddie 48.
I am overly friendly by nature. .I can really relate with you. I am also friendly, can be overly friendly and the worst part is sometimes I just take girls because I don't want to be an a $$hole as long as they are nice people and not hideous LOL.
In Pattaya, the problem is there are just too many pushy girls. Kinda nice feeling of being popular but after a while it becomes annoying. But I would say it is just a part of the deal.
Would be nice to hear your first experience.
I'm going to lay out this review differently than most others I've seen. This is for complete beginners, so older members might think my observations are childish, because older members have been doing it for so long.
I won't give play by plays of my experiences unless it helps solidify my points. As always, older members are always welcome to chime in with their observations.
I was 31 years old when I went. I am a 6'2" (188 cm) 218 pound (99 kg) white American male. I have abs, an outgoing personality, and can bench more than my weight for reps. I can get girls easily in every country I've visited. I'm not bragging, I only included this info because I want to emphasize that I paid the exact same for the girls as every other member of this board. Looks do not matter!
I lurked on this board for about six months before my trip and back-read reports for over 100 pages. I strongly suggest each monger do the same before they visit Pattaya. Here are my tips that you should absolutely follow:
1. You should be able to quote price ranges for any service within each part of town at any given time of the day / week / year. You'll learn these prices from reading the last 100 pages of this forum. Don't be lazy, just do it!
2. You should understand this is not your country or culture! People here act differently; don't expect them to change for you simply because you are unable to change for them. (which leads to my next tip).
3. Keep your eyes open. When you enter any place, hotels, restaurants, go-go's, it doesn't matter, look around and pay attention to what other people are doing. If you see a monger groping a girl and the girl is laughing, you are allowed to do the same. If you see mongers sitting on their hands, you better do the same until you see otherwise.
4. Plan on using at least 6,000 baht a day. Don't think you can get buy with less on your first trip. Being tight with your wallet will ruin your holiday and leave a sour taste in your mouth. Don't try to argue on this one. If you can't bring at least 6,000 then don't go. After your first trip, you can plan on how much to bring, but first time just do as I say! That 6,000 does not include hotel fare either, you cheap bastard.
5. Have a game plan before you leave your hotel each morning. You don't have to plan every minute but at least know what part of town you want to visit.
6. Don't try to do everything in one day. I know it's your holiday but don't go overboard. I tried to visit LK, Soi 6, WS, and go shopping all on my first day. It lead to me feeling hurried and stressed. I spent more time walking than I did enjoying my holiday. I realized that aiming for two destinations in a day is a lot better. Soi 6 in the evening then WS at night worked beautifully for me. You can mix and match destinations.
7. Learn to love the baht buses. I walked everywhere the first two days. It was awful! I was staying near WS and I walked to Soi6 and back several times. It was a big mistake. I eventually hopped on a baht bus, and everything was a lot more fun after that revelation.
8. Lower your standards for what you need in a hotel. Like tip 2 suggests, don't expect things to be like back home. Do you really need to stay at a 5 star hotel, really really need it? If the same answer is yes, go ahead and waste your money. You should make a list of the things you absolutely need in a hotel. My list was short: bed, toilet, near WS. I found a hotel with average ratings which was cheap. Turns out the hotel was freaking great! It was worth way more than the cost.
9. Don't be shy! This is a rookie mistake I made. I tried being a gentleman and it made my trip less enjoyable. If you want a girl, go for it! Approach her, talk with her.
10. Just because you aren't shy doesn't mean you have a pass to be rude.
11. Relax! You will be overwhelmed your first time in Pattaya. You will get a flood of weird emotions. When that happens, find a relaxing place to reset and reassess your reasons for the visit. You read all these reports of men who land 11 girls in 6 days and you feel the need to do the same. The pressure can be bigger than you realized. Don't try to be that guy on your first trip. Be the guy smiling, not the dehydrated one looking to refill fluids. If you see a girl who gets you going, have fun! If you are tired from the previous girl, don't feel like you have to get another just to keep up with studs on this board. They've been here several times. They've been training for the marathon. You're still just a sprinter.
12. Last tip, try eating at different places for each meal. This one is a little more personal, but I feel the need to say it since I love experiencing new things. Don't go to the same place over and over. Also, be wary of seafood if it's been sitting outside all day.
I'll write another report in the more traditional way if members ask, but this one has everything I wish I would have known before visiting.
PeterPurvis
10-06-15, 04:02
Thanks to all who have posted reports. I have read through the last 80 pages. Some great info and reports.
I will be in town for a long weekend next month. I have a couple of questions if anyone is able to answer them.
I am looking to have a threesome probably at Devil's den. Do the girls require you to change condoms when you change girls?
I am also in need of some large breasts (with a great body). Fake are okay. What's the best gogo's for this.
I am looking to have a threesome probably at Devil's den. Do the girls require you to change condoms when you change girls?
Unfortunately my experience has been that they do, but I always end up with more bareback blowing than actual banging, so hopefully others will weigh in.
Christian G
10-06-15, 09:08
I am looking to have a threesome probably at Devil's den. Do the girls require you to change condoms when you change girls?Yes they do it everytime you change girls, so if you want do many changes you'll use alot of condom. Also you'll need to change condom if you want switch from ass to pussy of a same girl.
I am also in need of some large breasts (with a great body). Fake are okay. What's the best gogo's for this.Last June I saw many fake tits at Sky Fall, you can also check Iron and WhatsUp. But I'm not a gogo's expert.
Uncle Volodya
10-06-15, 10:43
I am also in need of some large breasts (with a great body). Fake are okay. What's the best gogo's for this.Skyfall has one or two that really fit the bill. As does Saphire club.
Have fun!
Uncle-V.
I'm going to lay out this review differently than most others I've seen. This is for complete beginners, so older members might think my observations are childish, because older members have been doing it for so long. SNIP
I'll write another report in the more traditional way if members ask, but this one has everything I wish I would have known before visiting.Excellent and useful advice Adrena. A lot of it probably does seem unnecessary to the seasoned veterans, but they aren't here for things like this.
When I went to Bogota, my first real trip outside the US (Canada, Mexico and Utah don't count), I was at first annoyed at the service in the different restaurants. Then I realized, it wasn't bad service, they were just being polite, not interrupting every 5 minutes, or trying to rush you out the door. Sometimes it's the little things that catch you off guard.
The advice about basing your actions on what you see others doing, should be common sense, but it isn't. Maybe it needs a qualifer. In some places, certain groups can get away with things others can't. A local may be able to grab at a waitress, while a visitor can't. Or, especially in a tourist town, vice versa. I don't know how this varies in Thailand, but there are probably some little quirks. Perhaps a bit of caution when following the lead of others.
Excellent post.
IllusionHeart
10-06-15, 19:28
I'm going to lay out this review differently than most others I've seen. This is for complete beginners, so older members might think my observations are childish, because older members have been doing it for so long.
I won't give play by plays of my experiences unless it helps solidify my points. As always, older members are always welcome to chime in with their observations.
Adrena, some basic and really helpful tips. I would like to add few more to your extremely good list especially for newbies:
13. If you like a girl at a bar or gogo then barfine her or close the deal for ST or LT whichever you may like. Chances are that she will probably not be there if you come back for her after hopping few more places. There are tons of beautiful girls to meet everyone's taste and the search for the perfect one sometimes proves endless or tiresome. Hence as they say " A bird in hand is better than 2 in Bush". Spend time enjoying the company of a girl rather then searching for most beautiful girl you can get laid with.
14. Girls are available around the clock in Pattaya. Do research for places if you have Morning or day time preferences and you can roll 24 x7 if you have the urge and stamina.
15. Do some reading on Ladyboys especially if you are not into them on how to identify and avoid as you can get a surprise in your room if haven't asked them before about their gender.
Last but not least treat everyone with respect. People have to do strange things to make a living. You are a walking ATM to them. Hence including girls and vendors or small children who bug you to buy things from them, be as polite as you can. Remember they don't have as much a choice as we do.
I was 31 years old when I went. I am a 6'2" (188 cm) 218 pound (99 kg) white American male. I have abs, an outgoing personality, and can bench more than my weight for reps. I can get girls easily in every country I've visited. I'm not bragging, I only included this info because I want to emphasize that I paid the exact same for the girls as every other member of this board. Looks do not matter!
Looks does matter if you're talking about dating non-pros but since you're talking about pros, why would looks matter when it comes to payment? Like you I have abs, tremendous personality, spend endless hours in Tony's gym, can also bench more than my weight and can easily get girls in every country I visit because I have money to pay them but I don't get any discount even though I am a true handsome man.
Hookers are in the business of making money not offering discount to handsome men with superior interpersonal skills. You can have the face of Willem (see below) Dafoe but your pocket full of money will always make you appear as attractive as any handsome man when you're dealing with pros. Try to make it anywhere in the world on your looks and no money and see how that works for you. Some pros may enjoy handsome men more than the regular Pattaya old fat farts but they still want to be paid because money is always number one with them.
Banana Boi
10-06-15, 20:12
Thanks for your summary, Adrena. Very helpful for us who have their virgin trip coming very soon.
Couple quick questions for my trip in 4 weeks.
For massage places like Sabai Room, Sabai Dee, Rasputin, Honey 1 and 2, what is the best time of day to go to see the most girls in the fishbowls? Is there a big difference in number / quality of girls on a Monday opposed to a Friday?
Would like to spend a few afternoons in the Gentleman's clubs in Jomtien / Pattaya for the FKK feel. Anyone been to Kinnaree Place, Winchester, Rioja, M Club, Sapphire Lodge, Venus Lounge, or Heaven lately? Any of these places that I should definitely try or avoid? Is there a better one not on my list?
Mr Enternational
10-06-15, 22:03
For massage places like Sabai Room, Sabai Dee, Rasputin, Honey 1 and 2, what is the best time of day to go to see the most girls in the fishbowls? Is there a big difference in number / quality of girls on a Monday opposed to a Friday?The same girls work everyday. Quality? What is quality? One day you will see a girl in the 1800 baht section and the next day the same girl could be in the 2400 baht section. But I guess fair exchange is no robbery. I would say the most women are there about 6 pm. But that is a double edged sword. The later in the day, the more used up they are. I would prefer to get there early while they are fresh. One chick with big ass titties that I used to fuck with has started working at Honey 2. Last week probably about 9 pm I asked her how many men she had fucked already that day and she said 5. Then she thought I wanted her to come over to fuck after she had told me that? I'll pass.
Would like to spend a few afternoons in the Gentleman's clubs in Jomtien / Pattaya for the FKK feel. Anyone been to Kinnaree Place, Winchester, Rioja, M Club, Sapphire Lodge, Venus Lounge, or Heaven lately? Any of these places that I should definitely try or avoid? Is there a better one not on my list?Go to all of them. (That is the advantage of having a motorbike. If you go somewhere and don't like it you can just ride the fuck off to the next place.) First walk in and look around. The first thing they are going to say is what you want to drink. But just act indecisive (or ask about food which many don't have) while you look around. If you don't like the place just leave and go to the next one. If you like it then sit down and have a drink and choose a girl and go upstairs if you want.
Fast Eddie 48
10-07-15, 02:26
On my last trip to Pattaya, I had to get back to DMK the next day, holding over in Bangkok for one night. The hotel was maybe 10 miles from DMK. Anyway, I took the Bell bus to BKK, then got a taxi from there to go to the hotel, and another taxi the next morning to get to DMK.
This next time, I will also be going from Pattaya to DMK but without the stop over. My plan is to take the Bell bus again from Pattaya to BKK, but then get on the MTS and take it all the way to Phaya Thai, then switch trains and go all the way north to Mo Chit. From there, I will take a taxi to DMK. I hope to bypass a lot of stalled traffic.
I did see Bell has a bus direct to DMK, but they have only two departures, one at 6:30 AM (and the other at 1:30 PM. They say it can take up to 4 hours to get to DMK! Well, for one, I am not getting up in time to make that first departure! Second, the later departure is too late. I think one reason the bus may take so long is the Bangkok traffic. When I first arrived BKK last time and took a taxi to my hotel near Soi Cowboy, we were stuck in traffic and watching the trains go by. I will try to eliminate most of the traffic delay this time.
Does this seem reasonable?To FL.
I have taking bus from pattaya to Mochit bus station Bangkok many time it only take about 2-2. 30 hr same bus company to Ekamai and same amount oof time it don't take 4 HR, I always spend a few night in Bangkok before my flight so I don't have to rush myself here is a link to a website info to the newbie.
Fast eddie 48.
Pattaya-Bangkok Timetable: PattayaBus.com.
www.pattayabus.com/en/routes-schedules/pattaya-to-bangkok
Last week probably about 9 pm I asked her how many men she had fucked already that day and she said 5. Then she thought I wanted her to come over to fuck after she had told me that? I'll pass.Quick shower and she is good as new. Might as well be a virgin.
One chick with big ass titties that I used to fuck with has started working at Honey 2. Last week probably about 9 pm I asked her how many men she had fucked already that day and she said 5. Then she thought I wanted her to come over to fuck after she had told me that? I'll pass.
.Why tell her that her just having been with 5 men was the reason you are passing her by? She was honest with you. Next time she may lie now that she's knows admitting to being with many men that day might cause her to lose a customer. Maybe just tell her you have other plans.
Blanquiceleste
10-07-15, 10:51
For massage places like Sabai Room, Sabai Dee, Rasputin, Honey 1 and 2, what is the best time of day to go to see the most girls in the fishbowls? Is there a big difference in number / quality of girls on a Monday opposed to a Friday?
Would like to spend a few afternoons in the Gentleman's clubs in Jomtien / Pattaya for the FKK feel. Anyone been to Kinnaree Place, Winchester, Rioja, M Club, Sapphire Lodge, Venus Lounge, or Heaven lately? Any of these places that I should definitely try or avoid? Is there a better one not on my list?The soapies like Sabai Dee, Rasputin, Honey 1 & 2 are all very good. IMHO the best time to visit is after 2 pm but before 7 pm. Prices range from 3.5 K to 6 K depending on the age and mileage of the girl. Needless to say the younger less experienced ones cost more. I think prostitution is the only trade where price and experience are inversely proportional. Most of them are sillies.
I have patronized Heavens, M Club and Venus. All 3 are good. Heaven has the best property and quantity. Not much to differentiate on quality. The rooms to shag the girls are the best at Venus IMHO. Prices are not very different among these 3.
Good luck and have fun.
Michael Tours
10-07-15, 16:13
Been 3 weeks now in pattya and one to go, like every year at this time of year. Mostly everything as normal, prices, beach road girls, there are a lot.
But you need to be there often and have real luck to find somehting good, well I see man take them so for some its ok, but for me that are used to Colombia and the sweetest young Perugirls of Lima, not so much, but yes its realy fun here, ok weather, little rain but no problema, I stay in a nice.
Hotel in soi7 close to the beach, 900 bath day.
I have a few regular girlfriends here form many years back and also have very good fun in walking street, soi6 (crazy), soi8 and soi honey and so much more, I love Thailand but love Peru even more so soon over there for the Peruvian summer. Jan. , Feb. And March.
Missing mis amigitas.
Well I will post fotos from Pattaya soon, and welcome to ask if anyone need any recient information, , from Michael.
I know there's a climax disco in Bangkok but noticed a new bar called Climax in Pattaya on LK Metro. Anybody know if its a disco type joint or a gogo? FYI youtube is one of the best forms of research, especially for Thailand. Found the new sign on a new youtube clip.
Why tell her that her just having been with 5 men was the reason you are passing her by? She was honest with you. Next time she may lie now that she's knows admitting to being with many men that day might cause her to lose a customer. Maybe just tell her you have other plans.Huh? You want him to lie so that she will remain honest? Weird logic there. Better she lies next time. Mr. E should go very early in the day so he can get virgins. I love being a girl's first fuck for the day, and usually I am. Last night I was a girl's first fuck for the day at nearly 11 PM. She had no customers at all (if she was honest). LOL Anyway fucked like she loved every minute of it.
Worst idea of all is to take a PSE Oily MP girl for the night after she finishes her shift and is totally stuffed from fucking all day. Seen a few reports of that. Girls need sleep too.
Huh? You want him to lie so that she will remain honest? Weird logic there. Better she lies next time. Mr. E should go very early in the day so he can get virgins. I love being a girl's first fuck for the day, and usually I am. Last night I was a girl's first fuck for the day at nearly 11 PM. She had no customers at all (if she was honest). LOL Anyway fucked like she loved every minute of it.
Worst idea of all is to take a PSE Oily MP girl for the night after she finishes her shift and is totally stuffed from fucking all day. Seen a few reports of that. Girls need sleep too.Huh? Where did I tell him to lie? Simply saying "I have other plans" is hardly a lie. Once he read she had screwed 5 guys already, he instantly made other plans. And I said that "maybe" he her could tell her he had other plans. Leaving out the reason for his changed plans is hardly a lie. Quite logical.
Good advice about not taking a worn out girl who has been working and screwing all day out for the night.
Mr Enternational
10-09-15, 01:06
I first messaged her to see if she was busy because it was earlier in the night and she could have come over. That is the first I heard that she had started working at the soapy. After that I was really just being curious to know in general how many guys they get per day. She asked if I wanted to fuck her. I told her that I was sure she was going to be tired after fucking 5 guys already. After that she said no she would not be tired because she was really horny that day. I never gave a definite answer. I just laughed it off. Besides she does not get off until 2 and my girlfriend gets off work and gets to my place at 4. I originally met this chick a couple of years ago at one of the discos. Many times when I am out I still see her in the discos. So this is just one other example of a chick who you will go to their workplace and get them for whatever amount, but when you see them in the disco you can get them for 1000 LT.
Unless you are on a very tight budget, take the bus to the Airport from Pattaya, then a taxi to DMK, there is expressway routings between the two airports, and those train fares are not cheap. I think there may also be a bus from Pattaya to Mo Chit??Those train fares are not cheap? I think 45 Baht from Suvarnabhumi to Phaya Thai is a bargain. And the Skytrain is not expensive either.
If you have a ticket or boarding pass for fly out from DMK, you can take the shuttle bus BKK-DMK for free. That is a direct bus, no stops in between and as I remember well, it departs from door 5 on departures level. Without a ticket they will not allow you on the bus, but arriving at BKK and showing a boarding pass stating BKK arrival same day, tell them you will buy ticket at DMK counter and they accept it.
Bus ride is just one hour, all through the outskirts of Bangkok, no worries about traffic jams.
This next time, I will also be going from Pattaya to DMK but without the stop over. My plan is to take the Bell bus again from Pattaya to BKK, but then get on the MTS and take it all the way to Phaya Thai, then switch trains and go all the way north to Mo Chit. From there, I will take a taxi to DMK. I hope to bypass a lot of stalled traffic.
I did see Bell has a bus direct to DMK, but they have only two departures, one at 6:30 AM (and the other at 1:30 PM. They say it can take up to 4 hours to get to DMK! Well, for one, I am not getting up in time to make that first departure! Second, the later departure is too late. I think one reason the bus may take so long is the Bangkok traffic. When I first arrived BKK last time and took a taxi to my hotel near Soi Cowboy, we were stuck in traffic and watching the trains go by. I will try to eliminate most of the traffic delay this time.
Does this seem reasonable?There were several replies on this subject but I think Titanio gave the best option: take the Bell bus to Suvarnabhumi and from there take the free shuttle bus to Don Muang. I've done it quite recently and it was a walk in the park.
Like you I have abs, tremendous personality, spend endless hours in Tony's gym, can also bench more than my weight and can easily get girls in every country I visit because I have money to pay them but I don't get any discount even though I am a true handsome man.I suppose your post was tongue in cheek but I was wondering if modesty is included in that 'tremendous personality' of yours, LOL!
Needless to say the younger less experienced ones cost more. I think prostitution is the only trade where price and experience are inversely proportional.How about politics?
WildBillLewis
10-09-15, 15:09
If mongering is your primary purpose (I. E. Sampling the girls of different countries), then you need to reconsider going to some of these places:
Bali: It's a very expensive place, like Honolulu and Bahamas. The WGs (working girls) are mostly Indonesians from Java charging double prices. So just go to Jakarta. Don't even consider Surabaya as the quality and quantity are not even close to Jakarta.
Hong Kong: Most WGs are PRC, Viet or Pinays again at higher prices. So go to China, Vietnam and the Philippines.
Singapore & KL: Again, most WGs are PRC, Viet, Thais and Indonesians. At higher prices. Moreover, these WGs are more likely hardened pros.
Within each country: You can fuck all the Pinays in AC which has the best range of quality and quantity, so why bother going to other Filipino cities? The same in Vietnam. Get all you want in HCMC. Go to PP for Cambodians and Bangkok and Pattaya for Thais.Mongering: In the past three years, I've been to Thailand twice (Bangkok, Phuket, Pattaya) and the Philippines once (Manila, Subic, Angeles), each trip lasting a month. Before each trip I map out a plan. With days divided between traveling, touring and chasing girls. The current plan for my 100 day trip calls for 16 days of travel, 11 days of touring and the rest spent in chase.
Excellent advice, and fairly consistent with what I have heard from others, namely: Jakarta should be high on the list but Bali due to the expense and other parts of Indonesia (like Surabaya) due to the lack of choice should be re-thought; Malaysia, apart from maybe Kuala Lupur, is a wasteland for mongering; concentrate on Phnom Penh in Cambodia; focus on HCMC in Vietnam. All very useful in helping me refine and better focus my plan.
Thanks to you and other for this kind of help.
On my last trip to Pattaya, I had to get back to DMK the next day, holding over in Bangkok for one night. The hotel was maybe 10 miles from DMK. Anyway, I took the Bell bus to BKK, then got a taxi from there to go to the hotel, and another taxi the next morning to get to DMK.
This next time, I will also be going from Pattaya to DMK but without the stop over. My plan is to take the Bell bus again from Pattaya to BKK, but then get on the MTS and take it all the way to Phaya Thai, then switch trains and go all the way north to Mo Chit. From there, I will take a taxi to DMK. I hope to bypass a lot of stalled traffic.
I did see Bell has a bus direct to DMK, but they have only two departures, one at 6:30 AM (and the other at 1:30 PM. They say it can take up to 4 hours to get to DMK! Well, for one, I am not getting up in time to make that first departure! Second, the later departure is too late. I think one reason the bus may take so long is the Bangkok traffic. When I first arrived BKK last time and took a taxi to my hotel near Soi Cowboy, we were stuck in traffic and watching the trains go by. I will try to eliminate most of the traffic delay this time.
Does this seem reasonable?In your place I would take from North Pattaya bus station the direct bus to Mo Chit for 133 Baht leaving every 40 min I think and from there a taxi to DMK. It is only 17 km away or 20 min by taxi that should cost you about 100-150 Baht.
I did the opposite way last December. Very straight forward. Bell bus to BKK and then shuttle to DMK is ok but takes longer due to the hotel pick up and connection at BKK and costs more.
Thanks.
Sirs,
Forgive me If I've misunderstood but 3. 5 k to 6. 0 k seems unbelievable.
Pedro.
Thanks for all the suggestions guys. Much appreciated.
One other question. I need to be to BKK (not DMK) by 1 PM. I will take the 9 AM bus from Pattaya (Bell, North Station). They will pick me up, which I assume, based on last time, will be around 8:30 AM. Under normal situations, the travel time should be not more than 3 hours and I would be there by noon, but I have read that sometime there can be huge traffic delays along that road. My travel date will be on Sunday, November 22, which is NOT a Thai holiday and, being at 9 AM, I would think I would beat the returning weekend crowd. But, IDK! November is the moderately high season, and I have no idea if there might be hoards of tourists who need to head back to Bangkok early Sunday.
Do you all think I will be back to BKK (not DMK) with time to spare?
Mr Enternational
10-10-15, 03:44
FL the bus takes 1 hour 15 min (1h30m max) from Pattaya to Swampy.
Thanks for all the suggestions guys. Much appreciated.
One other question. I need to be to BKK (not DMK) by 1 PM. I will take the 9 AM bus from Pattaya (Bell, North Station). They will pick me up, which I assume, based on last time, will be around 8:30 AM. Under normal situations, the travel time should be not more than 3 hours and I would be there by noon, but I have read that sometime there can be huge traffic delays along that road. My travel date will be on Sunday, November 22, which is NOT a Thai holiday and, being at 9 AM, I would think I would beat the returning weekend crowd. But, IDK! November is the moderately high season, and I have no idea if there might be hoards of tourists who need to head back to Bangkok early Sunday.
Do you all think I will be back to BKK (not DMK) with time to spare?Time to spare? I would NOT count on it.
Several years ago, I took the Bell van from Pattaya to my hotel in Bangkok. It took forever. From Pattaya, the Bell van went to the BKK airport to drop off passengers and pick up a few more passengers. From the airport, the Bell van headed to Bangkok to drop off passengers whose drop offs were in various locations throughout the city. With traffic, it turned into a long "milk run" or unwanted sightseeing tour of the city as the Bell van went from one hotel to another hotel to another hotel to another hotel. If your hotel is the first drop off, you're luck and you'll be fine. In my case, my hotel was the last drop off. From Pattaya to my hotel in Bangkok, I think it took 8 hours. As I struggled to hold my bladder to keep from pissing in my pants, I vowed to NEVER AGAIN take the Bell van to a hotel in Bangkok.
Since that dreadful experience, I take the bus from Pattaya to the Ekkamai bus station in Bangkok. From there, I take the BTS to my hotel. If I have too much to carry, I'll catch a taxi from Ekkamai to my hotel.
If time is a priority, and you can afford the expense, a taxi from Pattaya to Bangkok is the quickest and easiest way.
Any recommended places to stay whilst in Pattaya that are girl friendly? Going to be there for a few days in January.
Have read through a couple of months or so of posts and only seen two places mentioned.
Explorer8939
10-10-15, 23:13
FL the bus takes 1 hour 15 min (1h30m max) from Pattaya to Swampy.I found the Bell service from my hotel in Pattaya to my hotel in Bangkok to be quick and efficient.
Explorer8939
10-10-15, 23:14
Thanks for all the suggestions guys. Much appreciated.
One other question. I need to be to BKK (not DMK) by 1 PM. I will take the 9 AM bus from Pattaya (Bell, North Station). They will pick me up, which I assume, based on last time, will be around 8:30 AM. Under normal situations, the travel time should be not more than 3 hours and I would be there by noon, but I have read that sometime there can be huge traffic delays along that road. My travel date will be on Sunday, November 22, which is NOT a Thai holiday and, being at 9 AM, I would think I would beat the returning weekend crowd. But, IDK! November is the moderately high season, and I have no idea if there might be hoards of tourists who need to head back to Bangkok early Sunday.
Do you all think I will be back to BKK (not DMK) with time to spare?I would imagine you have a good shot, if you don't mind having no margin.
Time to spare? I would NOT count on it.By 'BKK' I think FL meant Suvarnabhumi and not some hotel or other place in the city. 'BKK' is the abbreviation for Suvarnabhumi Airport.
From the northern bus station in Pattaya to Suvarnabhumi it usually doesn't take longer than 90 minutes, maybe 120 at the most occasionally.
I would never take the Bell service to a hotel in Bangkok for the exact reasons you describe.
Any recommended places to stay whilst in Pattaya that are girl friendly? Going to be there for a few days in January.
Have read through a couple of months or so of posts and only seen two places mentioned.If you have read through THIS thread then I'm not surprised. Go through the thread 'Pattaya Hotels' my friend and you will be pleasantly surprised.
Christian G
10-11-15, 10:48
Any recommended places to stay whilst in Pattaya that are girl friendly? Almost all are GF.
Have read through a couple of months or so of posts and only seen two places mentioned.Because this is the thread for Pattaya Hotels: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1875-Pattaya-Hotels.
I went to Kinnaree Place a few months ago. I wanted to write a review of the place, but just couldn't remember the name. Thanks Banana Boi!
First, I will say that I wish I could tell you were Kinnaree Place is located, but I cannot. A buddy of mine took me on his motorbike and at the time I thought we were just going to eat lunch. That's what he told me anyway. So, we arrived at this place and there were dozens of motorbikes parked out front. We just happened to arrive on a day when there was a big birthday party going on. As soon as we walked in, we saw a few tables (buffet style) full of food. There was some Thai and some western style food. The food was okay.
After filling our plates full of food, we headed into the bar. The place was absolutely packed with men who were there for the birthday party, but there were still plenty of girls working. Most of the girls were fairly good looking in my opinion. Many were dressed in school girl outfits. All of the girls were friendly and welcoming. My friend and I made our way to a side room and ate our lunch while checking out the options from our table. After eating, we went back out to the main room to see the action there.
Fairly quickly, I spotted a skinny, cute young-looking girl (maybe 20 years old) I liked and called her over. I usually like to chat up the girl and have a drink or two before making a decision, but I knew right away I wanted this one. I forgot her name. Who can remember names? It has been a few months, but if I remember correctly, the deal for ST was about 300 baht for the use of a room and it was either 700 or 1,000 baht for her (sorry, but I can't remember... I just remember being happy about the deal). She led me back to the room where my buddy and I ate and said she would see if a room was ready. She came back about 30 seconds later and said I should order some drinks because there was no available room. I told her then I would have to cancel because my friend wanted to leave and we just had time for ST. She came back about a minute later and magically a room was available. She then presented me with a bill that included the room charge, lunch charge, and a few drinks that I did not order. She told me the drinks were so we could have a drink in the room. I told her I didn't want to drink. I just wanted to get to the room. She then took the bill back and returned with a new bill that only had the room charge, which was fine by me. So, if you go there, just be sure you are alert for extra drink charges.
We then passed back through the main room of the bar and went through some doors and into an area that had a few rooms. The room we used was clean, but the bed looked like it had seen better days. We showered and got down to business. She was very enthusiastic and had no problems with doing whatever I asked. I really enjoyed the Kinnaree Place and had planned to go back, but instead of paying attention to how to get there, on the way back I was busy telling my buddy about the girl I was with and then we got pulled over by the police (a "random" check to make sure he had his international driver's license). Then I met up with another forum member and he took me out to Walking Street. I lost my mind (so many sexy girls) once I went to Windmill and Sweethearts, but that's another story.
By the way, I am an author and have a book on Amazon (Cupid's Bow: Sex Tourist in Pattaya, Thailand). For a limited time, I am offering the book for free to paid members of the forum in exchange for an honest review. You'll need to PM me for the details. Thanks.
Thanks for your summary, Adrena. Very helpful for us who have their virgin trip coming very soon.
Couple quick questions for my trip in 4 weeks.
For massage places like Sabai Room, Sabai Dee, Rasputin, Honey 1 and 2, what is the best time of day to go to see the most girls in the fishbowls? Is there a big difference in number / quality of girls on a Monday opposed to a Friday?
Would like to spend a few afternoons in the Gentleman's clubs in Jomtien / Pattaya for the FKK feel. Anyone been to Kinnaree Place, Winchester, Rioja, M Club, Sapphire Lodge, Venus Lounge, or Heaven lately? Any of these places that I should definitely try or avoid? Is there a better one not on my list?
Banana Boi
10-11-15, 16:48
Thanks for the review and the warning about the invisible drinks. I'm looking forward to checking these places out, enjoying lunch and an afternoon romp or 3, then going to WS at night.
I went to Kinnaree Place a few months ago. I wanted to write a review of the place, but just couldn't remember the name. Thanks Banana Boi!
First, I will say that I wish I could tell you were Kinnaree Place is located, but I cannot.
You can now.
https://www.facebook.com/PlaceKinnaree?fref=ts
http://www.kinnareeplace.com/
Christian G
10-11-15, 17:02
First, I will say that I wish I could tell you were Kinnaree Place is located, but I cannot.Look here for the location http://www.kinnareeplace.com/contact.html.
A buddy of mine took me on his motorbike and at the time I thought we were just going to eat lunch. .If I'm not mistaken, having a ride is key to visiting these clubs (jade house, heaven, kinnaree etc) is having a ride to and from the clubs. Yeah, you can jump on a motobike taxi to take you there but from what I've heard getting a return taxi can be troublesome. I'm guessing there won't be taxi's waiting outside to take you back.
Banana Boi
10-11-15, 18:56
The club won't call a taxi for their customers?
Leads me to another question. How much would it cost me to hire a taxi for say 3-4 hours slowly driving me all around Pattaya, hitting every street a car can drive through? Area to be covered would be North Pattaya Road to South Pattaya Road, between Beach Road and Chaloem Phra kiat Road.
Plan is to do this on a Sunday or Monday so I get my bearings for the next 3+ weeks. Some may think it's a waste of money but I consider it more of an investment not to miss anything on my trip. If there are other main hobby areas (not including Jomtien) outside of the aforementioned area or something cool around Pattaya I need to see or do, please let me know.
The club won't call a taxi for their customers?
Leads me to another question. How much would it cost me to hire a taxi for say 3-4 hours slowly driving me all around Pattaya, hitting every street a car can drive through? Area to be covered would be North Pattaya Road to South Pattaya Road, between Beach Road and Chaloem Phra kiat Road.
Plan is to do this on a Sunday or Monday so I get my bearings for the next 3+ weeks. Some may think it's a waste of money but I consider it more of an investment not to miss anything on my trip. If there are other main hobby areas (not including Jomtien) outside of the aforementioned area or something cool around Pattaya I need to see or do, please let me know.I'm not the one to answer the question about the club calling a taxi for you but I did take a taxi to Jomtien and back and had the guy wait an hour, cost me 600 baht. Might cost you the same to have him ride you around town for 2 hours. Just not sure how much you'll actually see in the back of a cab. I did the same thing but with the baht bus, get a handful of 10 baht coins and hop off and explore, jump back on when you've seen enough.
Christian G
10-11-15, 19:22
The club won't call a taxi for their customers?Many mototaxi and some taxi outside Kinnaree. Other club maybe not have a mototaxi outside, but you just need to walk a bit for find many mototaxi, taxi and bahtbus all around
Leads me to another question. How much would it cost me to hire a taxi for say 3-4 hours slowly driving me all around Pattaya, hitting every street a car can drive through? Area to be covered would be North Pattaya Road to South Pattaya Road, between Beach Road and Chaloem Phra kiat Road.Personally I see no need to do this. Chaloem Phra kiat Road (3rd road) not have nothing interest to see if you don't know the address of the club. Also I think driver will charge you too much, is not a common thing rent a taxi for some hours in Pattaya. So why not rent your on motorbike? Is a best solution for me, check the map, take note of interesting address and go around by yourself. Remember that many mototaxi-taxidriver don't know the exact location of the clubs around, so could be easy that they make you lose time driving around, call friends for ask where the club is, ecc. And don't forget the traffic, I never want to stay on taxi or bahtbus in Pattaya.
From North to South. Beach road and second road, you can just walk all around and check the alleys which connect the two streets.
From soi 6 to soi 1 not many interesting things apart a Body Massage near soi 2 on Second Road and some bar complex.
From Second Road you can go check Soi Buakhao from soi Honey, Soi Diana, Soi LK Metro.
From Soi Buakhao you can go check 3rd road from Soi Lengkee, Soi Chayapoon, Soi Xzyte.
If there are other main hobby areas (not including Jomtien) outside of the aforementioned area or something cool around Pattaya I need to see or do, please let me know.
Naklua have some beer bar complex, but i dont know if is worth a visit because i never check.
Anything to see or do in Jomtien? Nice beach to take a stroll maybe? Are there beer bars in Jomtien?
Banana Boi
10-11-15, 20:28
Thanks for the feedback guys. My taxi ride is not primarily for hobby purposes but also to see if I pass by a place of interest for me to visit later in my trip. Could be a place to eat, walk around, shop, etc.
I realize there isn't much between Soi Buakhou and 3rd Road but I extended my area to 3rd Road to include Soi Lengkee. I've Google map'd the entire area I want to cover but nothing like seeing something in person. My taxi plan will not be my first days in Pattaya. I will likely have covered Soi 6, 7, 8, Beach Road, WS, and possibly the Sabai and LK Metro areas by then.
600 baht (15 euro) per 1 - 1. 5 hours seems like a reasonable rate.
So why not rent your on motorbike?How do you go about that? What do you need besides cash? I would assume that this is generally "safe" and chances of theft are low.
How do you go about that? What do you need besides cash? I would assume that this is generally "safe" and chances of theft are low.Motorbike rentals all over town. Get a international drivers license before you come in case you are stopped by police.
Mr Enternational
10-12-15, 00:57
Thanks for the feedback guys. My taxi ride is not primarily for hobby purposes but also to see if I pass by a place of interest for me to visit later in my trip. Could be a place to eat, walk around, shop, etc.And besides that, they are not going to understand what you want to do. And if they do understand then they will think you are crazy. Why does this guy just want me to drive him around in every soi in Pattaya? He does not know where he wants to go. Stupid farang! And the traffic in high season. Shhhh. That is why I drive a bike so I can go around it most of the time.
Like everyone says, either walk, get a motorbike, or hop on and off the baht buses. As Christian was telling you there is nothing special to see down those other sois. Just hotels and maybe massage shops that cater to those hotels. Oh, and pharmacies too. Remember businesses should stay on a main road or a road that has a lot of traffic. Otherwise nobody will know it is there and they will not have many customers. So what you are talking about doing will really just be wasting your time. You won't make any ground breaking discoveries.
I have another question for the brotherhood of the Pattaya forum. If Pattaya is the Mecca of mongering, where in the world is the next best place?Sorry for the drudged up reply months later. But doing my 100 pages of DD.
For a civilized place to go. Sao Paulo.
The $ is _so_ depressed there, and the clinics are so much fun.
Good short time Brazilian pussy is $35-55 US depending on the house, or the special.
The club won't call a taxi for their customers?
Leads me to another question. How much would it cost me to hire a taxi for say 3-4 hours slowly driving me all around Pattaya, hitting every street a car can drive through? Area to be covered would be North Pattaya Road to South Pattaya Road, between Beach Road and Chaloem Phra kiat Road.
Plan is to do this on a Sunday or Monday so I get my bearings for the next 3+ weeks. Some may think it's a waste of money but I consider it more of an investment not to miss anything on my trip. If there are other main hobby areas (not including Jomtien) outside of the aforementioned area or something cool around Pattaya I need to see or do, please let me know.I have done what you want to do. I rented a motorbike and rode up and down every Soi between Beach Rd and 2nd Rd from Soi 2 to Walking Street. You can rent a motorbike on Beach Road. Most ask for my original passport but only give them a copy. If they insist on the original passport go to the next vendor. And you do need an international license for the motorbike. The most interesting sights of Pattaya are in South Pattaya past the end of walking street and around the big hill with the Pattaya sign. There is Queen Sirikit Park, some luxury hotels and condos,a Buddha where you can buy and release some birds, go cart track, Pattaya sign, a Navy station with a memorial monument (nice views), a boat pier to go to outer island. Going to the top of the hill above Pattaya is nice and Jomtien beach is worth a stroll. They may have beer bars but I'm not sure. I have discovered all of these items by accident while riding around on a motorbike. These sights are rarely, if ever, mentioned here.
I like your idea of a Pattaya tour but I would use a motorbike not a taxi. Taxi drivers in Pattaya are lazy ripoffs.
Sorry for the drudged up reply months later. But doing my 100 pages of DD.
For a civilized place to go. Sao Paulo.
The $ is _so_ depressed there, and the clinics are so much fun.
Good short time Brazilian pussy is $35-55 US depending on the house, or the special.Sao Paolo no doubt has gorgeous women but isn't it extremely dangerous to visit? I spent three nights in Rio and personally saw two purse snatchings. In one case I grabbed the little shit, got the purse from him, and returned the purse to its owner. Mongering in other countries usually takes you to dodgy areas. I found Brazil to be unsafe and I won't go back until things change.
Christian G
10-12-15, 07:40
How do you go about that? What do you need besides cash? I would assume that this is generally "safe" and chances of theft are low.I have a Thai driving license for motorike but as other member said Get a international drivers license in your country before coming in Thailand. Wear helmet, drive slow, becareful everytimes and check where you parking motorbike. Never ever leave your original passport to the rental shop, only copy.
Christian G
10-12-15, 07:46
and Jomtien beach is worth a stroll. They may have beer bars but I'm not sure.Have some beer bar around on the Thappraya Road. When you are on the beach road you can check soi like soi4 have massage shop and bar. Also in Jomtien have some afternoon club like Winchester, Passion, Jade House and maybe some more that I don't remember.
Banana Boi
10-12-15, 08:36
go cart trackThank you so much! Would not even have thought of looking for go kart tracks, and Easy Kart is so close to WS.
Easy Kart http://easykart.net/pattaya-bali-hai-pier
Pattaya Kart speedway http://www.kart.thai.li/index_english.html.
Wolvenvacht
10-12-15, 12:27
Have some beer bar around on the Thappraya Road. When you are on the beach road you can check soi like soi4 have massage shop and bar. Also in Jomtien have some afternoon club like Winchester, Passion, Jade House and maybe some more that I don't remember.The "Country Road" beer bar on left hand side of Thappraya Road, just before the arch (when you are coming from the beach) provided me with some nice bargirls.
Not the absolute youngest bargirls, but also not pushy and a relaxed atmosphere. I'm sure to go back there and do some more research next month when I'm back in LOS.
On the other side of the road there are some "a gogo style" clubs it seems, but I did not investigate those. They did not seem very inviting.
Watch out, just behind the arch, also on the left hand side is a small sidestreet that leads to more bars, but those cater to gays.
Sao Paolo no doubt has gorgeous women but isn't it extremely dangerous to visit? I spent three nights in Rio and personally saw two purse snatchings. In one case I grabbed the little shit, got the purse from him, and returned the purse to its owner. Mongering in other countries usually takes you to dodgy areas. I found Brazil to be unsafe and I won't go back until things change.Not at all.
Don't stay downtown, go thru it. Etc, without a local that knows what's up.
There are some good clubs near downtown, but again. A local that knows what's up is best for that.
This is the AirBNB I stay at there: https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/860657.
The landlady is very nice. Very nice.
Uber works well there too.
Brooklin is my favourite Clinic.
PS: SP is -not- Rio. Rio is a whole nother very interesting world..more a club and street scene.
I have a Thai driving license for motorike but as other member said Get a international drivers license in your country before coming in Thailand. Wear helmet, drive slow, becareful everytimes and check where you parking motorbike. Never ever leave your original passport to the rental shop, only copy.Photocopies ok?
Brazil hint. MUST always be a locally notarized copy.
Christian G
10-15-15, 01:03
Photocopies ok?
If is not ok, change shop! Or you can rent a motorbike from your hotel, they have all you data and passport copy already.
Mr Enternational
10-15-15, 01:30
If is not ok, change shop! Or you can rent a motorbike from your hotel, they have all you data and passport copy already.When did hotels start renting bikes?
Christian G
10-15-15, 01:56
When did hotels start renting bikes?I never had a problem renting motorbike from hotel in Patong or Pattaya is just little be more expensive then shop, around +50 b a day.
Sao Paolo no doubt has gorgeous women but isn't it extremely dangerous to visit? I spent three nights in Rio and personally saw two purse snatchings. In one case I grabbed the little shit, got the purse from him, and returned the purse to its owner. Mongering in other countries usually takes you to dodgy areas. I found Brazil to be unsafe and I won't go back until things change.Good of you to do that but my advice would be to let things go unless you're a local or know people. You never know if the kid is working with a gang and the moment you put your hand on him you have a gun to your head. Places like SP, Caracas, etc. , have reps bc you need to always be aware of your surroundings.
But I'd definitely try and woop it up at Insomnia as I advised in the last post. I've had great luck there and the FLs there are very hot and give good GFE.
Still deep in my DD research. But this single plan keeps coming up.
I'll be well banked, and I think Ibar, bottle svc at a prime table, and just let the girls interview for my money thru the evening sounds delicious.
I'm not tight fisted, just a happy people-watcher. .
Still deep in my DD research. But this single plan keeps coming up.
I'll be well banked, and I think Ibar, bottle svc at a prime table, and just let the girls interview for my money thru the evening sounds delicious.
I'm not tight fisted, just a happy people-watcher. .That did not come across right.
I don't intend to throw $ at the problem. Just use it wisely, the right way as I've been reading, and see what comes of it.
Does anyone have an idea about this Pattaya Bar? Do they have working girls? Any scoop about this place. Thanks.
WildBillLewis
10-16-15, 22:54
Sorry for the drudged up reply months later. But doing my 100 pages of DD.
For a civilized place to go. Sao Paulo.
The $ is _so_ depressed there, and the clinics are so much fun.
Good short time Brazilian pussy is $35-55 US depending on the house, or the special.Thanks for the input. I had been planning a 100 day trip through Southeast Asia (because I am kookoo for looks of Asian women) but family obligations are going to make it hard to carve out 100 days of travel so I think I'll have to save that for later.
I've started to look at other options, namely 30+ days in Colombia on the one hand, or 30+ days in Africa (most likely split between Tanzania and Kenya) on the other. That said, on your advice, I'll take look at Sao Paulo. I speak English and French, and have been working hard to build up my rudimentary Spanish, but I have no Portuguese. Could I have you opinion as to how much of a problem it will if I lack any command of Portuguese?
Good of you to do that but my advice would be to let things go unless you're a local or know people.Thats what ISG is for. .
Thanks for the input. I had been planning a 100 day trip through Southeast Asia (because I am kookoo for looks of Asian women) but family obligations are going to make it hard to carve out 100 days of travel so I think I'll have to save that for later.
I've started to look at other options, namely 30+ days in Colombia on the one hand, or 30+ days in Africa (most likely split between Tanzania and Kenya) on the other. That said, on your advice, I'll take look at Sao Paulo. I speak English and French, and have been working hard to build up my rudimentary Spanish, but I have no Portuguese. Could I have you opinion as to how much of a problem it will if I lack any command of Portuguese?Hit the Sao Paulo board. Do the normal research.
No Porto. Its not impossible, about. ID say. 1 in 5 girls in the clinics speak English, and they're usually very nice girls too.
I mean. Renting a huge fuck condo with huge heated pool, jacuzzis, and a nice bed, shower, TV. That you could stay in for a full day and schedule in the lineup of FLs is fun too.
ABG in Sao Paulo forum is the spirit guide of fucking in SP, he's there to make it work for you. .
If is not ok, change shop! Or you can rent a motorbike from your hotel, they have all you data and passport copy already.I thought the reason they want the passport and not a photocopy is because there is no insurance against theft or damage and they want to make sure you pay up.
I hate to surrender my passport, but never had a choice, not even in my hotel.
They sealed it in an envelope and put it in a safe, but they still were in possession of my passport.
Mr Enternational
10-17-15, 19:04
I thought the reason they want the passport and not a photocopy is because there is no insurance against theft or damage and they want to make sure you pay up.
I hate to surrender my passport, but never had a choice, not even in my hotel.
They sealed it in an envelope and put it in a safe, but they still were in possession of my passport.What kind of places are you guys staying in and renting bikes? Everywhere I have ever been they only wanted to copy the passport. NEVER let anyone keep your passport. Why not just give them your wallet to keep as well.
Banana Boi
10-17-15, 19:40
I will NEVER give up my passport to stay at a hotel. Does this really happen? If so can someone list the hotels this occurs at. No one is stealing my identity just because I need a place to bang a girl. I trust sites like Agoda would pay you back if any hotel try to pull something like this.
Mr Enternational
10-17-15, 20:41
I will NEVER give up my passport to stay at a hotel. Does this really happen? If so can someone list the hotels this occurs at. No one is stealing my identity just because I need a place to bang a girl. I trust sites like Agoda would pay you back if any hotel try to pull something like this.It is not about identity theft. The hotels have to copy your passport and visa information and record it. It is a law. But they don't keep the physical passport.
I thought the reason they want the passport and not a photocopy is because there is no insurance against theft or damage and they want to make sure you pay up.
I hate to surrender my passport, but never had a choice, not even in my hotel.
They sealed it in an envelope and put it in a safe, but they still were in possession of my passport.Numerous people have said they only need a copy of your passport. I have rented bikes many times and only used a copy of my passport. Same for hotel rooms. If you insist on doing things your way and giving total strangers the most important thing you have while overseas, then continue. Hope you never need it in a hurry.
My motto is money, credit cards and passport. Everything else is expendable.
I thought the reason they want the passport and not a photocopy is because there is no insurance against theft or damage and they want to make sure you pay up.
I hate to surrender my passport, but never had a choice, not even in my hotel.
They sealed it in an envelope and put it in a safe, but they still were in possession of my passport.A hotel would never keep your passport, you are actually required to carry it with you and show it if stopped by police but usually just a photo copy will suffice.
Juicyclamlover
10-18-15, 04:07
As far as I am aware the hotel is required by Thai law to take a photocopy of your passport, as all foreigners are required to have their details passed onto the local police within 24 hours of your checking in.
Even when I am travelling in Thailand I keep a photocopy of my passport in the car and if requested produce this at police / army checkpoints and it is readily accepted.
I will be back in Pattaya in 4 weeks and am beginning to think about what I might try to do on this, my second trip.
First time, I got to know Soi 6 and WS pretty well, and even picked up a daytime FL or BR. But my experience with a MP was limited (a rub and tug in one place with no desire for more there), and my experience with discos was a brief stay at Insomnia (upstairs) which went bad, bringing back memories of my youth when I was a complete failure with discos.
But this time I would like to try Insomnia again (for the FLs), and also go to a better MP known for reasonably pretty girls, specifically a body slide.
As for discos, last time I was at Insomnia I failed to realize that the bar goes all the way back. I had simply parked my butt at the front where the host first seated me, near the speakers that could cause ears to bleed from the intensity. I supposed I should have gone to the back. Note that I am circa 60 why / o. I am still in good shape with most of my hair, though it is graying, but I don't know if my age might be significant factor against me from scoring there. It did not seem to be a deterrent with the girls on my first trip, but with Insomnia's FL, where I will be surrounded with the younger guys who will be there, should I even bother to go in? I am a nice guy, but I really don't like to drink alcohol, and while I will buy girls drinks and be generous, I won't imbibe beyond one or two drinks for myself.
And how late do I need to be there to maximize my chances? I understand that some of the girls who go there are office girls looking to make a little extra money, and I presume they would be there earlier but that they might be less inclined to go off with an older dude. And I understand that many of the girls there are bar girls who got off work, who show up after 2 am or so. So might I first go there around 10 PM, then if nothing go back after 2 am?
It does seem that the MO for Insomnia is to go to the back and look for potentially available girls and go to her. If she is not appalled by me, to then buy her a drink or two then inquire as to take out? Alternately, I can try to find a place to sit and make eye contact with appealing girls who happen to walk by, hoping they will stop to chat. Reasonable?
You guys know I write detailed reports, and scoring in a disco would erase years of trauma from my inability to score there from my youth. Well, ok, I did lose my virginity to a girl I went home with from a disco, but we knew each other and she basically went after me and took me to her place. Anyway, any helpful hints?
One more questions while I am at it. Last year there was really cute girl at one club I really liked and was considering BFing, but the club suddenly closed and everyone was kicked out. A short while later, the girl I was lusting after came out with some of the other girls. I was thinking of going to ask if she wanted to do something with me, but she kept talking and I was tired and gave up. Is is not uncool to approach these girls who just got off work? Might they already be planning to go to a disco and look for FL work?
Also be aware that you will need to present your passport, or a copy thereof, in order to exchange money. I simply carried around a photocopy of mine in my pants, with my original locked up in the safe. I did find one place that did not ask for it, but most required it.
Mr Enternational
10-18-15, 23:51
I will be back in Pattaya in 4 weeks and am beginning to think about what I might try to do on this, my second trip.
First time, I got to know Soi 6 and WS pretty well, and even picked up a daytime FL or BR. But my experience with a MP was limited (a rub and tug in one place with no desire for more there), and my experience with discos was a brief stay at Insomnia (upstairs) which went bad, bringing back memories of my youth when I was a complete failure with discos.
But this time I would like to try Insomnia again (for the FLs), and also go to a better MP known for reasonably pretty girls, specifically a body slide.
I am a nice guy, but I really don't like to drink alcohol, and while I will buy girls drinks and be generous, I won't imbibe beyond one or two drinks for myself.
And how late do I need to be there to maximize my chances? I understand that some of the girls who go there are office girls looking to make a little extra money, and I presume they would be there earlier but that they might be less inclined to go off with an older dude. And I understand that many of the girls there are bar girls who got off work, who show up after 2 am or so. So might I first go there around 10 PM, then if nothing go back after 2 am?
It does seem that the MO for Insomnia is to go to the back and look for potentially available girls and go to her. If she is not appalled by me, to then buy her a drink or two then inquire as to take out? Alternately, I can try to find a place to sit and make eye contact with appealing girls who happen to walk by, hoping they will stop to chat. Reasonable?As far as MP, since you mentioned body slide I think it is a soapy that you want and not a regular massage shop or fuck shop disguised as a massage shop.
Now on to Insomnia. Upstairs sux. Stay downstairs at iBar. Go all the way to the back section and get a table. Go up to chicks at their table or call them over to your table. No need for any of that eye contact stuff. You don't have to order alcohol either. Get a club soda or a coke. Also, no need to buy drinks for chicks.
10 pm is much too early to go to a disco. We usually take a nap after dinner about 8 pm then wake up at 1 am to go. This is the same thing that the office girls you mentioned would do. They don't go early. They just take a nap before they go. Also, as you said, there are many girls who work at other bars who go after work and on their days off. There are also chicks who work at restaurants or at the mall who will just go after work. Just hit me up when you are ready and I will go with you if you would like. My dad is 65 and goes out to the discos with me to get chicks, so at 60 I think you will be fine.
One more questions while I am at it. Last year there was really cute girl at one club I really liked and was considering BFing, but the club suddenly closed and everyone was kicked out. A short while later, the girl I was lusting after came out with some of the other girls. I was thinking of going to ask if she wanted to do something with me, but she kept talking and I was tired and gave up. Is is not uncool to approach these girls who just got off work? Might they already be planning to go to a disco and look for FL work?Now it is time to peep game. The first chick I ever fucked in Thailand was from the disco inside of Nana hotel in Bangkok. She took it upon herself to teach me a few words in Thai that she thought I needed to know. Of course I can hold my own in Thai now, but if there is any word that you MUST know then it is "pai nai". It means "where are you going?" This is one of the first words she taught me. She said when you see a girl walking just say "pai nai." And I will be damn if she wasn't right. When the girl answers start your own game or either do like they do sometimes and say, "I go with you." 10 years later I still have the paper with her number and that I took notes on.
As far as MP, since you mentioned body slide I think it is a soapy that you want and not a regular massage shop or fuck shop disguised as a massage shop.
Now on to Insomnia. Upstairs sux. Stay downstairs at iBar. Go all the way to the back section and get a table. Go up to chicks at their table or call them over to your table. No need for any of that eye contact stuff. You don't have to order alcohol either. Get a club soda or a coke. Also, no need to buy drinks for chicks.
10 pm is much too early to go to a disco. We usually take a nap after dinner about 8 pm then wake up at 1 am to go. This is the same thing that the office girls you mentioned would do. They don't go early. They just take a nap before they go. Also, as you said, there are many girls who work at other bars who go after work and on their days off. There are also chicks who work at restaurants or at the mall who will just go after work. Just hit me up when you are ready and I will go with you if you would like. My dad is 65 and goes out to the discos with me to get chicks, so at 60 I think you will be fine.
Now it is time to peep game. The first chick I ever fucked in Thailand was from the disco inside of Nana hotel in Bangkok. She took it upon herself to teach me a few words in Thai that she thought I needed to know. Of course I can hold my own in Thai now, but if there is any word that you MUST know then it is "pai nai". It means "where are you going?" This is one of the first words she taught me. She said when you see a girl walking just say "pai nai." And I will be damn if she wasn't right. When the girl answers start your own game or either do like they do sometimes and say, "I go with you." 10 years later I still have the paper with her number and that I took notes on.Classic. You should frame that.
Wolvenvacht
10-19-15, 09:00
Also be aware that you will need to present your passport, or a copy thereof, in order to exchange money. I simply carried around a photocopy of mine in my pants, with my original locked up in the safe. I did find one place that did not ask for it, but most required it.In banks they ask for your passport or ID, but you shouldn't go there at all because their rates are not good.
The best money exchange I found is at the Southwest corner of Sukhumvit and Asoke, not even 50 m from the Skytrain exit. Today I exchanged € into Baht at 39.7 baht /€ which is quite good. At the airport (airside) it was 37.5 baht /€.
Wolvenvacht
10-19-15, 09:07
I will NEVER give up my passport to stay at a hotel. Does this really happen? If so can someone list the hotels this occurs at. No one is stealing my identity just because I need a place to bang a girl. I trust sites like Agoda would pay you back if any hotel try to pull something like this.You can be quite sure Agoda and their likes will give you back nothing. They are only in this game for their commission fee. The contract is strictly between you and the hotel.
But, that being said, no hotel will keep your passport. They copy the ID page and give it back.
I visited Sapphire a-go-go Saturday. Nice bar; nice atmosphere; pleasant experience; reasonably priced drinks; friendly staff; several seriously cute and smiling young hotties. Only one big problem though; they're all coyote girls; no nudity; none of them even show their tits. They're probably all agency girls. I didn't check the price of their bar fines, but if what I remember is correct, they're expensive. Too bad!
Soldierb11
10-19-15, 19:12
I visited Sapphire a-go-go Saturday. Nice bar; nice atmosphere; pleasant experience; reasonably priced drinks; friendly staff; several seriously cute and smiling young hotties. Only one big problem though; they're all coyote girls; no nudity; none of them even show their tits. They're probably all agency girls. I didn't check the price of their bar fines, but if what I remember is correct, they're expensive. Too bad!5500 baht long time, yes the hot ones are agency girls.
Soldierb11
10-19-15, 19:24
Thanks for the input. I had been planning a 100 day trip through Southeast Asia (because I am kookoo for looks of Asian women) but family obligations are going to make it hard to carve out 100 days of travel so I think I'll have to save that for later.
I've started to look at other options, namely 30+ days in Colombia on the one hand, or 30+ days in Africa (most likely split between Tanzania and Kenya) on the other. That said, on your advice, I'll take look at Sao Paulo. I speak English and French, and have been working hard to build up my rudimentary Spanish, but I have no Portuguese. Could I have you opinion as to how much of a problem it will if I lack any command of Portuguese?That's a shame your 100 day trip won't happen now. But still 30 days is better than most working stiffs get all year (at least north American ones).
I am really curious about these two options you listed. Colombia vs. East Africa? Previous post you made you mentioned that your plan was about 70% of the days mongering and the others were split between touring and travel days. East Africa? Don't get me wrong Africa is either my favorite or second favorite place to go and that's why I go every year but it is not a mongering vacation spot at all. Yes they are places to get a girl but its more of a sidelight and not the main agenda unlike places like Rio, Medellin, Cartagena, Pattaya, Angeles City. And 30 days! Believe me after a week of twice a day safaris I could care less about seeing another damn animal. Africa can also be quite expensive if you want to stay somewhere nice too. Still a helluva place to visit but 30 days is way too long and mongering is hard to find.
I am leaving next week for two weeks in Brazil followed by two weeks in Colombia with the fall of the real and peso recently pussy is on a serious discount. If I were you I would consider something similar and save Africa for a side trip of your 100 day trip whenever you are able to pull the trigger.
Thanks, Mr. E,
Very valuable advice. So cool that you and your dad go mongering together.
I visited Sapphire a-go-go Saturday. Nice bar; nice atmosphere; pleasant experience; reasonably priced drinks; friendly staff; several seriously cute and smiling young hotties. Only one big problem though; they're all coyote girls; no nudity; none of them even show their tits. They're probably all agency girls. I didn't check the price of their bar fines, but if what I remember is correct, they're expensive. Too bad!I was there last week, and noticed that this bar is doing much better, as you described it above. It was nothing like this last year. It was rather a sleepy bar.
I went dancing with a girl from there. I had a girl with me already who was her friend. That girl was not an agency girl. I also noticed in the club many girls who would not qualify as coyotes, as they did not have the looks. So, I guess it is mixed, just like many other clubs.
... but if there is any word that you MUST know then it is "pai nai". It means "where are you going?" This is one of the first words she taught me. She said when you see a girl walking just say "pai nai." And I will be damn if she wasn't right. When the girl answers start your own game or either do like they do sometimes and say, "I go with you." 10 years later I still have the paper with her number and that I took notes on.First, that's assuming you can pronounce it correctly, with the right tones. Otherwise they don't understand what the heck you said. Once I learned how to pronounce it correctly, I ran into the other more difficult problem. They assume you speak Thai and respond to you in Thai. My Thai is not that good and I am always lost when they do that.
I found it easier to simply talk to them in English, or use their English version of "pai nai? Which is "where you go?
Mr Enternational
10-20-15, 02:47
First, that's assuming you can pronounce it correctly, with the right tones. Otherwise they don't understand what the heck you said. Once I learned how to pronounce it correctly, I ran into the other more difficult problem. They assume you speak Thai and respond to you in Thai. My Thai is not that good and I am always lost when they do that.
I found it easier to simply talk to them in English, or use their English version of "pai nai? Which is "where you go?I think you missed the whole point. It is a gimmick. Use that initial contact to grab and pique their attention by saying it in Thai. As I followed up with, you can use your own game after that. They will understand you not continuing to speak in Thai. And pai nai is probably one of the easiest things to pronounce. I have never had anyone not understand me saying that. The original poster said the girl practically ignored him. I am just trying to give him another angle of attack that I have found works for me.
I am not a frequent Soi 6 customer exactly for the reasons you state, quality is scarce, but I too have found a small number of cute gals over the years. My MO is to slowly walk the Soi back and forth for 30 minutes or so around dusk and if I do not see any worthwhile girls I move on to Go Go Land. I have found nice girls at Ruby Club, Red Point, Pussy Club and O BAR.
Another MO is to become more immersed into the Soi 6 scene, to hang out there and get to know some of the bar owners and girls better, but not being a drinker except on those occasions when its Tequila time with a hot girl, I wouldn't know about that. It's not my style to hang out in bars socializing. Now if they were serving quality reefer in them bars, I would hang out on the 6 all day long. 555. And meet some very interesting characters.Have been to Soi 6 twice. Last time was 3 years ago. There were lots of girls, so there will always be a few good looking ones. My problem is that it's just quickies. I like to spend some time with the girl. Also, the rooms there were not too nice. Not really a good atmosphere there. But if you like quickies, this is the place, since there are so many girls.
Have been to Soi 6 twice. Last time was 3 years ago. There were lots of girls, so there will always be a few good looking ones. My problem is that it's just quickies. I like to spend some time with the girl. Also, the rooms there were not too nice. Not really a good atmosphere there. But if you like quickies, this is the place, since there are so many girls.Last May there were a couple of pretty hot girls there who gave really good service. Most of the girls there, of course, are pretty homely though.
I do believe, however, that if you find a girl you like and hit it off with there, you can bar fine her for an entire day / night. Take her out and then take her to your hotel. If you had a good time at her place at work, it should be even better after you spent the day with her and buy her a few things. The price for this, with possibly a near-GFE at the end, could be about the same as ST with a WS top 10 hottie.
Not sure, and I won't have enough time to try it next month, but maybe on my 3rd visit!
I think you missed the whole point. It is a gimmick. Use that initial contact to grab and pique their attention by saying it in Thai. As I followed up with, you can use your own game after that. They will understand you not continuing to speak in Thai. And pai nai is probably one of the easiest things to pronounce. I have never had anyone not understand me saying that. The original poster said the girl practically ignored him. I am just trying to give him another angle of attack that I have found works for me.Correct, but I would use "Pai Nai Na Krup?
It's a bit longer, but same easy pronounced. And because you asking in a polite Thai, she will most likely be pushed to response in a same nice manner. The common rules in Thailand are simply like that. And usually you grab with it immediately a smile of her.
In banks they ask for your passport or ID, but you shouldn't go there at all because their rates are not good.
The best money exchange I found is at the Southwest corner of Sukhumvit and Asoke, not even 50 m from the Skytrain exit. Today I exchanged into Baht at 39.7 baht / which is quite good. At the airport (airside) it was 37.5 baht /.Best exchange since years are always Super Rich for bank notes. There are several direct at BTS Stations, example Asoke or On Nut.
http://www.superrich1965.com/
You get better exchange rates if you have a local Thai bank account and wire your money in. SCB is one of the best business banks here with enough sense for "normal" customers. Wire's are almost instantly accounted, when on Bangkok Bank or Kasikorn several days are used. Plus the exchange rates at SCB are always in the Top 5 as well.
I thought the reason they want the passport and not a photocopy is because there is no insurance against theft or damage and they want to make sure you pay up.
I hate to surrender my passport, but never had a choice, not even in my hotel.
They sealed it in an envelope and put it in a safe, but they still were in possession of my passport.Yes, that's the way how they handle this things. Rules changed a few years ago, after many was burned with customers runned away.
I hate it, but manage sometimes to give my Thai driver license instead of the passport.
Christian G
10-20-15, 10:16
Date 19 October 2015.
I walked in soi chayapoon last afternoon around 3 pm, down from 3rd to Soi Buakhao, 2 or 3 massage afer [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900) (left side) I saw one cute girl with a slim body, fit belly and small ass.
She offer me massage + sex for 1. 000 b all in (200 b for massage and 800 b for lady).
Go inside and she asked me if I want take shower but not need because did 5 min before in my room.
Classic small massage shop with a small mattress behind the curtains.
Not need to massage so went directly to the action.
Name: kan (or similar).
Age: 28 ?
Language: thai and english.
Face 3/5.
Body 3. 5/5.
BBBJ: 4/5.
Sex: 2/5.
GFE 1/5.
PSE good only in the BBBJ.
Cost: 200+800=1. 000 baht.
She started with a very good BBBJ, ball licking and deepthorat her skills was so good and I enoy it.
Fingering her pussy, condom on and start to ride me cowgirl, during the sex she seems to much bored and cold, this make me lose my feeling and part of my erection. So condom off and back on BBBJ till I cum, but after the first shot go inside her mouth she move her head and don't take all my sperm. Disappointment!
Quick shower, dressed on, pay.
Kiss kiss bye bye.
Three Holes
10-20-15, 11:14
Yep! Cash, cards and passport. Keep them secure always.
Everything is easily replaceable.
In my country it is illegal to give possession of your passport to any other person (other than legal inspections of course).
Also re the International drivers license it has to have the motorbike endorsement on it otherwise some police won't accept it, they got me with the b400 on the spot fine.
However you can have one made in about an hour, with all your details on it, for less than b1000 on Khaosan Rd Bangkok.
Just walk around and look in a few doorways.
Numerous people have said they only need a copy of your passport. I have rented bikes many times and only used a copy of my passport. Same for hotel rooms. If you insist on doing things your way and giving total strangers the most important thing you have while overseas, then continue. Hope you never need it in a hurry.
My motto is money, credit cards and passport. Everything else is expendable.
Christian G
10-20-15, 11:18
Yesterday I drove my motorbike around Jomtien and I decided to check Passion Club, a new (open not long ago) afternoon club. Drive from Pattaya to Jomtien on Thappraya Road, at the traffic light turn left (pic 1), go straight ahead (pic 2) then when you see signboard (pic 3) turn right and you will see the club on te right side (pic 4).
The Club have a small garden with a swimming pool but obviously no one join in (pity). Inside the lounge is not big but very nice, well air conditioned with a great soundtrack: Rolling Stones, Stevie Wonder, Ray Charles, Beach Boys, Abba, Queen, ecc. Have many TV around that show videomusic or live concert.
I don't count how many ladies was in but I think 15 maybe some more, some of them wear a very short skirt that show their ass but unfortunately the average quality was not so good and the medium age was over 30.
Soft drink 60 b, room I think 3/400, and girls asked for 1. 500 b that is not a good deal when you have a place like Kinnaree with more young and nice girls ask for 1. 000 b st + room.
During they week the have a special day like bikini party or lingerie party. Yesterday they have a bbq buffet with a big skewers (beef, pork and chicken) and potato salad. I wasnt hungry so I don't ask the cost for the buffet or if you have a minimum number of drink to order for join the buffet.
At the end I don't take any girls, sipping my drink, look around, girls wasnt pushy to ask drink but I don't found any girl for my taste.
Mr Enternational
10-20-15, 16:19
I walked in soi chayapoon
She started with a very good BBBJ, ball licking and deepthorat her skills was so good and I enoy it.
Fingering her pussy, condom on and start to ride me cowgirl, during the sex she seems to much bored and cold, this make me lose my feeling and part of my erection. So condom off and back on BBBJ till I cum, but after the first shot go inside her mouth she move her head and don't take all my sperm. Disappointment!LOL. This mirrors my experience on the same street. Well except I didn't get the BBBJ, ball licking, deepthroat, pussy fingering, or partial CIM that you got. I was never given a price either, but it was the only time that I have given 1000 for ST. And I only did that because the owner of the place was a friend of another board member who took me there and I just wanted him to look good. My girl was 20 years old and it seemed that she had never given a massage a day in her life and that mine was the first dick she had ever come into contact with. Lesson learned.
Mr Enternational
10-20-15, 16:27
Also re the International drivers license it has to have the motorbike endorsement on it otherwise some police won't accept it, they got me with the b400 on the spot fine.
However you can have one made in about an hour, with all your details on it, for less than b1000 on Khaosan Rd Bangkok.Well damn. It's probably cheaper to get the real thing. A real motorbike license in Thailand is 200 baht. Before I had one of those I was never asked for an international permit. My normal license with motorcycle endorsement from back home was always fine. 15 years ago before traveling to France I got the international deal from AAA that is valid for 1 year for about $15. Needless to say, I haven't wasted $15 for that ever since.
LOL. This mirrors my experience on the same street. Well except I didn't get the BBBJ, ball licking, deepthroat, pussy fingering, or partial CIM that you got. I was never given a price either, but it was the only time that I have given 1000 for ST. And I only did that because the owner of the place was a friend of another board member who took me there and I just wanted him to look good. My girl was 20 years old and it seemed that she had never given a massage a day in her life and that mine was the first dick she had ever come into contact with. Lesson learned.Well I have had some good experiences on Chayapoon. But I don't go there for the massage. LOL.
LOL. This mirrors my experience on the same street. Well except I didn't get the BBBJ, ball licking, deepthroat, pussy fingering, or partial CIM that you got. I was never given a price either, but it was the only time that I have given 1000 for ST. And I only did that because the owner of the place was a friend of another board member who took me there and I just wanted him to look good. My girl was 20 years old and it seemed that she had never given a massage a day in her life and that mine was the first dick she had ever come into contact with. Lesson learned.Before I got my Thai license, I got stopped on Beach road by police. He ask for my license and would not accept my Texas license. When I showed him my international, he looked for the motorcycle endorsement. Once he saw that he let me go.
Last May there were a couple of pretty hot girls there who gave really good service. Most of the girls there, of course, are pretty homely though.
I do believe, however, that if you find a girl you like and hit it off with there, you can bar fine her for an entire day / night. Take her out and then take her to your hotel. If you had a good time at her place at work, it should be even better after you spent the day with her and buy her a few things. The price for this, with possibly a near-GFE at the end, could be about the same as ST with a WS top 10 hottie.
Not sure, and I won't have enough time to try it next month, but maybe on my 3rd visit!Actually, that's a very good idea. Didn't know you can do that. It might work well if you like the girl.
Only downside is those girls on Soi 6 probably have a lot of mileage on them. The good looking ones probably are with lots of guys daily.
Someone on this forum mentioned the Kinnaree Club in Pattaya as a good place. Can someone give details about it, such as location etc? I looked through a bunch of posts here, plus did a search on this forum, but couldn't find it. Thanks.
Banana Boi
10-20-15, 20:26
Henry, here's their website. http://www.kinnareeplace.com/events.html
http://www.jomtiennightlife.com/kinnaree-place/
Banana Boi
10-20-15, 20:45
Original plan was to spend Friday and Saturday night in BKK before going to Pattaya. Now considering going directly to Pattaya from BKK airport. By the time I get oriented and find the taxi stand it will likely be around 3:30 pm on a Friday afternoon. If I went to my my hotel near Nana Plaza what time would I expect to arrive? If I went straight to Pattaya what time would I expect to arrive?
Also, does Pattaya have a place similar to MBK? Alternatively, which is the best shop near Walking Street entrance to get a phone and SIM?
Banana Boi, There's a load of places right there landside at BKK. When you get to Pattaya Tucom is the place. You can't go wrong. I even managed to get one of the sales girls to meet me at Insomnia, but just for drinks which was a shame but I didn't care because she was as pretty as Thai girls go. Pedro.
Mr Enternational
10-20-15, 22:36
Only downside is those girls on Soi 6 probably have a lot of mileage on them. The good looking ones probably are with lots of guys daily.But what you don't realize is that when most girls come to Pattaya they start out on Soi 6. So chances are that if you meet a chick elsewhere, such as a gogo then she has already done her time in Soi 6 and learned the lay of the land enough to graduate and venture out to work other places. So actually a Soi 6 girl would more than likely have less mileage on them!
Mr Enternational
10-20-15, 22:41
Original plan was to spend Friday and Saturday night in BKK before going to Pattaya. Now considering going directly to Pattaya from BKK airport. By the time I get oriented and find the taxi stand it will likely be around 3:30 pm on a Friday afternoon. If I went to my my hotel near Nana Plaza what time would I expect to arrive? If I went straight to Pattaya what time would I expect to arrive?With it being afternoon on a Friday in Bangkok then you would probably get to Nana at the same time that you would get to Pattaya.
Also, does Pattaya have a place similar to MBK? Alternatively, which is the best shop near Walking Street entrance to get a phone and SIM?In Pattaya there is no place similar to MBK. What aspects of MBK do you mean though? If just electronics then as Pedro said you would go to Tukcom. You should just get a SIM card at the airport right outside of customs, especially since now they are required to be registered and you will already have your passport in hand.
So chances are that if you meet a chick elsewhere, such as a gogo then she has already done her time in Soi 6 and learned the lay of the land enough to graduate and venture out to work other places.And laid the learned of the land.
Banana Boi
10-21-15, 00:44
With it being afternoon on a Friday in Bangkok then you would probably get to Nana at the same time that you would get to Pattaya.Thanks this is the exact reason for considering the change.
Thanks guys for the heads up about Tukcom IT Mall as well.
ActionOriented
10-21-15, 03:50
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Soft drink 60 b, room I think 3/400, and girls asked for 1. 500 b that is not a good deal when you have a place like Kinnaree with more young and nice girls ask for 1. 000 b st + room.
....Very helpful directions to this place, might check it out next time.
I am a little confused re the price at Kinnaree since I have been there only once. I may have paid 1500 to the girl and 300 for the room (been a while, so may have mixed up the rates). I was told that was a standard rate for all of the girls. Since you mention 1000 B to be the standard, just wanted to check if this needs to be negotiated before going to the room or have rates changed across the board at this place.
Very helpful directions to this place, might check it out next time.
I am a little confused re the price at Kinnaree since I have been there only once. I may have paid 1500 to the girl and 300 for the room (been a while, so may have mixed up the rates). I was told that was a standard rate for all of the girls. Since you mention 1000 B to be the standard, just wanted to check if this needs to be negotiated before going to the room or have rates changed across the board at this place.Of late, the standard rate for the girl's services at Kinnaree Place is 1000 baht. They normally ask for a tip on top of that. 200 baht will suffice. The cost of the short time room is currently 350 baht.
Original plan was to spend Friday and Saturday night in BKK before going to Pattaya. Now considering going directly to Pattaya from BKK airport. By the time I get oriented and find the taxi stand it will likely be around 3:30 pm on a Friday afternoon. If I went to my my hotel near Nana Plaza what time would I expect to arrive? If I went straight to Pattaya what time would I expect to arrive?
My last trip I headed down to Pattaya direct from the airport and ran into a bottleneck of traffic. Took me 3 hours to get to my hotel. Peak time I'm guessing is what I hit (around 8 am). I'm guessing that Friday at 4 pm is also going to be peak time. I think I'd rather run the risk of peak time heading to Bangkok vs Pattaya.
Banana Boi
10-22-15, 04:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9yZ_V6Y4bk
Has anyone visited 69ers bar on Soi 7? If not I will report back once I get there.
My last trip I headed down to Pattaya direct from the airport and ran into a bottleneck of traffic. Took me 3 hours to get to my hotel. Peak time I'm guessing is what I hit (around 8 am). I'm guessing that Friday at 4 pm is also going to be peak time. I think I'd rather run the risk of peak time heading to Bangkok vs Pattaya.I concur. Friday afternoon is the worst time of the week to go to Pattaya as a lot of people from Bangkok go to the beaches or countryside to spent the weekend.
Original plan was to spend Friday and Saturday night in BKK before going to Pattaya. Now considering going directly to Pattaya from BKK airport. By the time I get oriented and find the taxi stand it will likely be around 3:30 pm on a Friday afternoon. If I went to my my hotel near Nana Plaza what time would I expect to arrive? If I went straight to Pattaya what time would I expect to arrive?To avoid the traffic jams you might consider to take the train (airport rail link in the basement of Suvarnabhumi) to Phaya Thai and from there take the BTS to Nana. You will be at Nana in about one hour.
So I'm enjoying myself at Happy a-go-go last night. Good lineup of hotties.
I had 3 happy hour drinks and bought 1 lady drink for a cute hostess I know there.
3 x 80 +140 = 380 baht. I handed the waiter a 500 baht note. He then wrote on the back of my slip "420. " I just took the pen out of his hand, crossed out the 420 and wrote "380. " he looked at it, finally nodded, waied me, and brought my correct change.
Lesson: always know the exact total of your bin before you hand over the money. Don't trust the wait staff. They make mistakes, and some of them will cheat you if the opportunity arises. Check your bin!
Christian G
10-22-15, 10:33
Very helpful directions to this place, might check it out next time.
I am a little confused re the price at Kinnaree since I have been there only once. I may have paid 1500 to the girl and 300 for the room (been a while, so may have mixed up the rates). I was told that was a standard rate for all of the girls. Since you mention 1000 B to be the standard, just wanted to check if this needs to be negotiated before going to the room or have rates changed across the board at this place.I been in Kinnaree last June. And I confirm that the normal price I always paid is 1000 baht plus 350 b for the room. If you need to wait for the room some girl try to charge with some more Lady Drinks. Usually they ask 1500/2000 baht if you ask for anal or lesbo 3 some. I never paid more than 1000 plus room at Kinnaree for standard service and if someone will ask me 1500 plus room I'll move next.
But what you don't realize is that when most girls come to Pattaya they start out on Soi 6. Are you sure about that?
Also be aware that you will need to present your passport, or a copy thereof, in order to exchange money. I simply carried around a photocopy of mine in my pants, with my original locked up in the safe. I did find one place that did not ask for it, but most required it.I have exchanged money twice. Both times I have been asked for passport. Not sure about photocopy.
I concur. Friday afternoon is the worst time of the week to go to Pattaya as a lot of people from Bangkok go to the beaches or countryside to spent the weekend.
To avoid the traffic jams you might consider to take the train (airport rail link in the basement of Suvarnabhumi) to Phaya Thai and from there take the BTS to Nana. You will be at Nana in about one hour.So what would be longer, taking the train to Bangkok or taking a taxi?
Are you sure about that?Of the few girls I know personally in Pattaya, which is less than 10, most started out at bars, 1 started out in a Gentlemen's club and 1 started out in a soapie. In fact none started out in Soi 6.
My current "GF" (we write daily and passionately although she doesn't speak any English at all yet, but I don't send her money) had exactly 7 days mileage when I met her, in a bar. She came with her friend who had worked in bars for a couple of years already and had 1 guy who I met last month supporting her.
So what would be longer, taking the train to Bangkok or taking a taxi?Depends on the time of day and weather conditions. The train is basically time certain and cheaper. With luggage it is the transfers and additional walking that is a PITA as Thailand is a hot and rainy place. Even if you do get stuck in some traffic I prefer the door to door and always in aircon service that taxi's provide.
SL.
ActionOriented
10-23-15, 03:30
Of late, the standard rate for the girl's services at Kinnaree Place is 1000 baht. They normally ask for a tip on top of that. 200 baht will suffice. The cost of the short time room is currently 350 baht.
I been in Kinnaree last June. And I confirm that the normal price I always paid is 1000 baht plus 350 b for the room. ....Thanks for confirming, if they have managed to maintain the quality of their line up since my last visit, 1350 all in is a good deal (tip extra on performance).
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