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LittleBigMan
10-23-15, 11:22
First it was the construction on Hwy 7, around the Chon Buri Interchange to put in more Toll booths and widen the highway that they screw up the first two times. That was the daily event but it is mostly done now so the traffic is starting to run smooth again.

Beginning of the year they started the so call Tunnel on Sukhumvit. The blocked off lanes around Sukhumvit and Pattaya Klang a major road that leads down to Foodland and Big see Extra has been block meaning no right turn down to Beach Road. During the week it isn't so bad until it reach 4-6 in the afternoon.

On Friday and Saturday, especally Friday the traffic is at a stand still starting around 2 pm, it is stop and go from Pattaya Klang all the way down to the Hwy 7, exit. At times it is back up into the Hwy 7 like a parking lot.

Today 23rd is a holiday, Bars are open. The traffic has been at a stand still since 1 pm, the BIB, are overwhelmed closing off roads to push the vehicles into other areas so they do not have to deal with it. This method causing more problems because they just do not know what to do. This happens every holiday and special events which I believe there was maybe a marathon or something!

For Friday and Saturday stay away coming into town unless your driver knows the shortcuts. This will continue since the so call Tunnel will take a few more years to finish.

Escort4Us
10-24-15, 19:37
I'm not finding much with google.com/ flights.

I would LOVE to leave early AM on Monday the 16th, but. It looks like I'll have to leave for BKK early evening on Sunday, which sucks, because I really want that third day there.

Any local data google isn't seeing that has that route in the AM?

AssLover945
10-24-15, 21:03
I'm not finding much with google.com/ flights.

I would LOVE to leave early AM on Monday the 16th, but. It looks like I'll have to leave for BKK early evening on Sunday, which sucks, because I really want that third day there.

Any local data google isn't seeing that has that route in the AM?Try looking at cleartrip.com, for india bound flights I found this website very good.

Escort4Us
10-24-15, 21:54
Try looking at cleartrip.com, for india bound flights I found this website very good.Ya. Same options. Gah. Thanks for the link however. .

Blanquiceleste
10-25-15, 17:11
I'm not finding much with google.com/ flights.And what exactly makes you think you would find the information on the Pattaya forum? You certainly don't think this is really a travel agency disguised as a mongers' forum, do you?

I am sorry for calling you out this way but please, stick to what the forum is all about sharing experiences of our common hobby in Pattaya. If you want travel advice there is a dedicated forum for that. Posts like this is what discourages people from reading and then they simply end up asking for contact numbers of girls.

Escort4Us
10-25-15, 18:31
Ill be in Pattaya Friday the 13th to Monday the 16th at the Inn House.

Jean Sean
10-25-15, 18:56
Ill be in Pattaya Friday the 13th to Monday the 16th at the Inn House.You're sure you haven't mixed up your mother's email address with this forum?

Escort4Us
10-25-15, 20:08
You're sure you haven't mixed up your mother's email address with this forum?Purty sure. Being she died 6 yrs ago.

Blanquiceleste
10-26-15, 17:20
Today I received a call. From the number flashing on my mobile's screen I could tell it was a Thailand number. I answered it and the voice at the other end shrieked "you no memolee me na ka?

I was totally at a loss. I could not guess who this was. So I proceeded to say that I had changed my phone recently and hence had lost all my numbers. After a bit more banter the girl identified herself as Nana (very helpful indeed! So some more conversation and I finally figured who it was. And that makes a great story for today.

Circa 2008 Pattaya. I had picked this young 19 yo from Simon 2 on WS, a bar right art the end. Rolling Live 3 I think. Probably the best pick in that trip. Her name was Nana and she was an absolute delight. Fantastic GFE, raunchy sex, foodie to match my appetite and could give me a run for my money on the drinking. She stayed with me for exactly 3 days. On one of those days she popped an idea and I said yes in a heartbeat. The idea was to get away to some small nearby remote island. So she got some food packed, got a few 6 packs and headed down to the beach at around 10.00 am.

She spoke to one of the motorboat chappies and we had a deal at THB 1500 - he would take us to a nearby island that was uninhabited and leave us there for a few hours and then come back and pick us up at a pre-appointed time. So off we went to an island, probably 10 miles west of Coral Island if my sense of navigation was right.

And we were there for 4 hours. I shagged this girl twice on the open beach. She fed me the goodies we had got and drank around 5 cans of beer each. The sex was divine. Absolutely divine. The feeling of having sex on an open beach is simply exhilarating. We swan in water for a bit, frolicked and generally had a very good time. The motorboat chappie came back at 3. 00 pm and I really did not realize it was so late. Back on mainland we went back to the hotel, showered together and had sex again. And then went for a nice Mookata dinner followed by some more drinking and dancing at Hollywood. We returned at around 2. 00 am had sex once more and then slept. The next morning I was returning to BKK so I kissed this lass goodbye and was on my way. I was in touch with her for about 3 years after that and then she suddenly fell of the radar. No messages, no calls, nothing. I called the mamasan at the bar and checked. The mamasan Nim informed me that Nana got married and moved to BKK. Fuck!

Silence for the next 3 years and then this call today brought back all those wonderful memories. To cut a long story short, Nana got married, had a kid, got ditched by her husband and is now back in the trade. But she has lost her mojo completely and I would not hit that ass again. Kinda tragic. She is still quite a good looking lady at 26 and for those who are interested you will find her at Buriram Bar / Ice Bar on Soi 8, Beach Road. Here is a pic from back in the day.

Hope you enjoyed reading. Thanks.

Wtboatr
10-27-15, 08:24
Today I received a call. From the number flashing on my mobile's screen I could tell it was a Thailand number. I answered it and the voice at the other end shrieked "you no memolee me na ka?

I was totally at a loss. I could not guess who this was. So I proceeded to say that I had changed my phone recently and hence had lost all my numbers. After a bit more banter the girl identified herself as Nana (very helpful indeed! So some more conversation and I finally figured who it was. And that makes a great story for today.

Circa 2008 Pattaya. I had picked this young 19 yo from Simon 2 on WS, a bar right art the end. Rolling Live 3 I think. Probably the best pick in that trip. Her name was Nana and she was an absolute delight. Fantastic GFE, raunchy sex, foodie to match my appetite and could give me a run for my money on the drinking. She stayed with me for exactly 3 days. On one of those days she popped an idea and I said yes in a heartbeat. The idea was to get away to some small nearby remote island. So she got some food packed, got a few 6 packs and headed down to the beach at around 10.00 am.

She spoke to one of the motorboat chappies and we had a deal at THB 1500 - he would take us to a nearby island that was uninhabited and leave us there for a few hours and then come back and pick us up at a pre-appointed time. So off we went to an island, probably 10 miles west of Coral Island if my sense of navigation was right.

And we were there for 4 hours. I shagged this girl twice on the open beach. She fed me the goodies we had got and drank around 5 cans of beer each. The sex was divine. Absolutely divine. The feeling of having sex on an open beach is simply exhilarating. We swan in water for a bit, frolicked and generally had a very good time. The motorboat chappie came back at 3. 00 pm and I really did not realize it was so late. Back on mainland we went back to the hotel, showered together and had sex again. And then went for a nice Mookata dinner followed by some more drinking and dancing at Hollywood. We returned at around 2. 00 am had sex once more and then slept. The next morning I was returning to BKK so I kissed this lass goodbye and was on my way. I was in touch with her for about 3 years after that and then she suddenly fell of the radar. No messages, no calls, nothing. I called the mamasan at the bar and checked. The mamasan Nim informed me that Nana got married and moved to BKK. Fuck!

Silence for the next 3 years and then this call today brought back all those wonderful memories. To cut a long story short, Nana got married, had a kid, got ditched by her husband and is now back in the trade. But she has lost her mojo completely and I would not hit that ass again. Kinda tragic. She is still quite a good looking lady at 26 and for those who are interested you will find her at Buriram Bar / Ice Bar on Soi 8, Beach Road. Here is a pic from back in the day.

Hope you enjoyed reading. Thanks.

How do you know she lost her Mojo? She looks super sexy from your photo.

-- WT.

Blanquiceleste
10-27-15, 11:02
How do you know she lost her Mojo? She looks super sexy from your photo.

-- WT.That pic is from BACK IN THE DAY. The little conversation with her yesterday told me she is not the same love machine she used to be. She told me does not BF much these days. Nonetheless, I have shared her present coordinates. You can check her out and tell me I'm wrong.

Uncle Volodya
10-27-15, 15:46
Today I received a call. From the number flashing on my mobile's screen I could tell it was a Thailand number. I answered it and the voice at the other end shrieked "you no memolee me na ka?

I was totally at a loss. I could not guess who this was. So I proceeded to say that I had changed my phone recently and hence had lost all my numbers. After a bit more banter the girl identified herself as Nana (very helpful indeed! So some more conversation and I finally figured who it was. And that makes a great story for today.

Circa 2008 Pattaya. I had picked this young 19 yo from Simon 2 on WS, a bar right art the end. Rolling Live 3 I think. Probably the best pick in that trip. Her name was Nana and she was an absolute delight. Fantastic GFE, raunchy sex, foodie to match my appetite and could give me a run for my money on the drinking. She stayed with me for exactly 3 days. On one of those days she popped an idea and I said yes in a heartbeat. The idea was to get away to some small nearby remote island. So she got some food packed, got a few 6 packs and headed down to the beach at around 10.00 am.

She spoke to one of the motorboat chappies and we had a deal at THB 1500 - he would take us to a nearby island that was uninhabited and leave us there for a few hours and then come back and pick us up at a pre-appointed time. So off we went to an island, probably 10 miles west of Coral Island if my sense of navigation was right.

And we were there for 4 hours. I shagged this girl twice on the open beach. She fed me the goodies we had got and drank around 5 cans of beer each. The sex was divine. Absolutely divine. The feeling of having sex on an open beach is simply exhilarating. We swan in water for a bit, frolicked and generally had a very good time. The motorboat chappie came back at 3. 00 pm and I really did not realize it was so late. Back on mainland we went back to the hotel, showered together and had sex again. And then went for a nice Mookata dinner followed by some more drinking and dancing at Hollywood. We returned at around 2. 00 am had sex once more and then slept. The next morning I was returning to BKK so I kissed this lass goodbye and was on my way. I was in touch with her for about 3 years after that and then she suddenly fell of the radar. No messages, no calls, nothing. I called the mamasan at the bar and checked. The mamasan Nim informed me that Nana got married and moved to BKK. Fuck!

Silence for the next 3 years and then this call today brought back all those wonderful memories. To cut a long story short, Nana got married, had a kid, got ditched by her husband and is now back in the trade. But she has lost her mojo completely and I would not hit that ass again. Kinda tragic. She is still quite a good looking lady at 26 and for those who are interested you will find her at Buriram Bar / Ice Bar on Soi 8, Beach Road. Here is a pic from back in the day.

Hope you enjoyed reading. Thanks.Great story man! Thanks so much for sharing.

I'd love to give it that a try. I imagine it will cost more than 1500 baht. But an experience like that would be well worth it.

The tough part will be to find a girl as adventurous as your Nana. And I am not talking about the sex. I think many Pattaya girls would be ok with that. But getting a Thai girls to stay out in the sun that long is a real challenge. 555.

I'll bounce the idea off on my fave regular when I see her in December. Thanks for the idea!

Stay horny my friend.

Uncle-V.

Blanquiceleste
10-27-15, 17:18
Great story man! Thanks so much for sharing.

I'll bounce the idea off on my fave regular when I see her in December. Thanks for the idea!

Stay horny my friend.

Uncle-V.Uncle V you are most welcome. I think it will cost a lot more in present times to get a motorboat and I have not tried that once after that one time. You are correct about Thai girls avoiding the sun. But then, I prefer the ones who are fresh off the boat and have chocolate / olive color skin rather than some of the pale faces in the GoGo bars. Also, you have to be really into the girl and the same should hold for the girl.

Its like getting planetary positions in sync for an eclipse. But when it happens its legendary.

WildBillLewis
10-28-15, 16:25
That's a shame your 100 day trip won't happen now. But still 30 days is better than most working stiffs get all year (at least north American ones).

I am really curious about these two options you listed. Colombia vs. East Africa? Previous post you made you mentioned that your plan was about 70% of the days mongering and the others were split between touring and travel days. East Africa? Don't get me wrong Africa is either my favorite or second favorite place to go and that's why I go every year but it is not a mongering vacation spot at all. Yes they are places to get a girl but its more of a sidelight and not the main agenda .... Africa can also be quite expensive if you want to stay somewhere nice too. Still a helluva place to visit but 30 days is way too long and mongering is hard to find.Very interesting viewpoint. From reading the respective fora, I had gathered that Mombasa and environs was fantastic for mongering, and that Dar Es Salaam was a great place to go and pick up a girl for a trip to Zanzibar (and that Zanzibar itself had no shortage of chicks on offer, both local and foreign). Based on your "on the ground" experience, you would suggest otherwise.

FunMan13
10-29-15, 07:14
I was in Tanzania for 3 weeks in 2014. I could not monger because I was constantly with my work colleagues. However, I tried to scout the possibilities like bars, SWs, etc, and found nothing. A word of caution: Zanzibar is a very Muslim place and hostile to non-Muslims unless you are a regular tourist. If I am White or Asian, I would be very careful walking around with an African woman, especially if there is a marked age difference. Just my 2-cents.


Very interesting viewpoint. From reading the respective fora, I had gathered that Mombasa and environs was fantastic for mongering, and that Dar Es Salaam was a great place to go and pick up a girl for a trip to Zanzibar (and that Zanzibar itself had no shortage of chicks on offer, both local and foreign). Based on your "on the ground" experience, you would suggest otherwise.

Oosik
10-31-15, 17:00
I just got in to town late afternoon and chose LK Metro because it was in easy walking distance and I didn't have enough small change for a moto taxi to Walking Street. I was pretty beat already (I blame two Benz sessions in the last few days) so I only hit a couple of bars, Amethyst and Crystal, selected because they had the best crop on my last visit.

It was hard to tell if the quality was still there because they were mostly made up in Halloween makeup. This adds a confusion factor as, much like an average girl would be a pig at a supermodel agency but a stunner at the Ironworkers' Union Hall, I have greatly reduced beauty standards for ghouls and other undead. I'm pretty happy if major skin is not slouging off, the head is on the right way, and all the limbs are there. But I don't give it as much thought as I probably should have because on my bucket list "Sex with the undead" is just below "Sex with former US Secretary or State Madeleine Albright" which in turn is just below "Sex with a meat grinder".

I was one of two customers at Amethyst and had my eye one one little thing who apparently didn't get the costume memo. Cute face and not a bad body, though the lighting there has a bit if a problem: The floor level lights revealed every jiggle of what had originally had the appearance of a taut tummy. Still, I was interested, but so was every other customer (one) there, and he had already bought her a LD. I might return. Crystal had one potential, too, who also didn't come prepared to eat brains or whatever. Not chubby, in fact possibly too skinny. She was not one of the naked ones so I couldn't properly assess the assets. Also, I spent a lot of time watching fail videos on their big screen. Pretty rude of me.

Hopefully I'll have more to report once the ghouls have disappeared. I now have change for the moto so I expect to be immersed in the tank-top Mecca of Walking Street tomorrow.

Broxy
11-02-15, 00:18
Anyone know if telephone bar on Soi Batman is still open or has it closed permanently? I have heard differing reports can anyone help?

Christian G
11-02-15, 09:59
Anyone know if telephone bar on Soi Batman is still open or has it closed permanently? I have heard differing reports can anyone help?I'm not sure. I think close. Same management open a new bar in soi Lengkee called Bar De La Poste.

Wolvenvacht
11-02-15, 16:02
Soi 6 was in great form tonight. Several bars had birthday parties going complete with balloons, free food, DJs going at full blast and the birthday girls parading around with the 100 baht bills pinned to their dresses.

Great atmosphere but I'm not sure if it also is great for business: many girls being more interested in the party than in their customers.

Nevertheless I managed to get hooked by Fai of Roxy bar, 32 years old (but not looking older than 25), 1. 5 m of dynamite, with some nice (enhanced) breasts and quite some tattoos. The usual 300 Baht barfine / room and 1000 baht for her plus some drinks and a tip for her and the chamber maid.

Nothing earth-shattering, just some good DFK, BBBJ, pussy-licking and fingering and sex. Very clean and good hygiene (shower before and after).

It is so down-to-earth that it doesn't cease to amaze me.

Christian G
11-02-15, 17:57
I'm not sure if it also is great for business: many girls being more interested in the party than in their customers.I agree with your last words. When have this kind of party on soi 6 or any other bars I don't stop there. I never have interested in party or lose time for drinking.

Blanquiceleste
11-03-15, 01:12
Anyone know if telephone bar on Soi Batman is still open or has it closed permanently? I have heard differing reports can anyone help?Telephone Bar has indeed shut down. The same chaps run Bar de la Poste now on Soi Lengkee. I had covered the place in one of my previous FRs. I love the place, great ambiance, retro music, reasonable prices, friendly staff and girls (slightly older women) and fantastic skills. The only thing that freaks me is the surveillance. When you get there you will know what I mean.

Rocco Sha
11-03-15, 03:56
Telephone Bar has indeed shut down. The same chaps run Bar de la Poste now on Soi Lengkee. I had covered the place in one of my previous FRs. I love the place, great ambiance, retro music, reasonable prices, friendly staff and girls (slightly older women) and fantastic skills. The only thing that freaks me is the surveillance. When you get there you will know what I mean.Hi there,

Telephone bar is open and have got 5-7 girls at anytime. I confirm all what said by Blanquiceleste; great ambiance, retro music, reasonable prices, friendly staff and girls (slightly older women) and fantastic skills.

Surveillance is necessary to protect the bar from dress up men and safety of the customers.

Rocco

Blanquiceleste
11-03-15, 13:29
Telephone bar is open and have got 5-7 girls at anytime. Well that is (good) news now! Although one must admit Soi Batman is a bit out of the way. Speaking of BJ bars, I have found Club 4 to be a great place too. They are designed a bit differently, the seating and action areas are more like booths that can be covered with a curtain and are much more comfortable to relax, kick back and have a drink. The ladies are IMHO younger. The bar at the far end is usually occupied by a bunch of guys. One of them is the owner I think.

Club 4 is at Soi Full Love. There are other bars too on that lane, but this is the only BJ bar I know of there.

P.S. - The name goes after Full Love Inn, a cheap motel for ST. Kinky round beds and eerie lighting.

Christian G
11-03-15, 14:05
Club 4 is at Soi Full Love. There are other bars too on that lane, but this is the only BJ bar I know of there.The name of the soi is Soi Arunothai 4 and have also 007 next to Club 4, same owner same concept.

Blanquiceleste
11-03-15, 14:13
The name of the soi is Soi Arunothai 4 and have also 007 next to Club 4, same owner same concept.I am happy to stand corrected. Only one thing better than a BJ bar and that is TWO BJ bars next to each other.

RoyArjun2000
11-03-15, 23:54
Hi There,

I am new to this incredibly amazing website. Visiting Pattaya during Thanks Giving weekend. I would welcome an opportunity to catch up with anyone who would there during my visit. Beers on me!

Cheers

RoyArjun2000
11-04-15, 00:00
Hi There,

I am new to this incredibly amazing website. Visiting Pattaya during Thanks Giving weekend. Would welcome an opportunity to catch up if anyone is interested, Beers on me. Also, since this is my first visit would highly appreciate a few inputs.

Cheerssss

Lefeu
11-04-15, 01:43
My wingman and I recently completed a trip to SEA. It was the first overseas mongering trip for my wingman, but I have taken many trips over the years. Our initial intention was to do 7 days in Pattaya, 3 days in Bangkok, and 7 days in Manila. However, the typhoon hit the Philippines few days before our departure to Manila, and my wingman got very nervous. He started watching TV and looking at those folks swimming in the flood water. He then told me that he is not going to Manila. I suggested to him other venues such as Cambodia, Indonesia, Hong Kong / Macau but he wanted to go back to Pattaya. He did not even like Bangkok. Later on, I found out why. He had a met a working girl in Pattaya in our last day, and he liked her a lot. Unfortunately for him, when we went back to Pattaya, she was nowhere to be found. This incident left me wondering about the wisdom of bringing a newbie as a wingman. This is the second time I do this and it seems to always mess up my plans. So, at the end, we spent 14 days in Pattaya and 3 days in Bangkok.

My highlight of the trip: I am a big sucker for eye candy, hence I tend to gravitate towards places that have the most eye candy. I spent quite a bit of time in gogo bars, where I think one can find the most eye candy. However, my wingman had a limited budget, and once I introduced him to the Free lancers (FLs) on Beach Road, he was all set. 700 baht for a session, you just can't beat that. I have to admit that I also had a good helping of FLs from Beach Road. The value there is just overwhelming.

However, I managed to convince my wingman to at least try gogo bars for entertainment. So, every night, we would start with the gogos after dinner, then around 11 pm, we would move on to Beach Road and each one of us would pick a FL for the evening. We did this almost every day. I eventually ended up picking a beauty from Airline however, and my wingman was comfortable enough to ditch me and continue his routine. He did meet a gogo beauty one night but he balked at her asking price of 3 K baths for ST plus 1 K barfine. I did not blame him, as the prices have gone up too much.

As usual, the gogo scene seems to shift from one year to the next. In this trip, I thought the following bars were the best, in terms of quality and quantity of eye candy: Sensation, What's up, Baccara, Sapphire, and Sky Fall. We did not check every bar so we may have missed some good ones.

I was also surprised at some of the changes I noticed recently. I usually travel during the high season, and this time it was still low season, I think. I have read comments in the past about the Thai logic, and how they tend to charge more in the low season to make up for lost revenue. Well, I experienced that first hand when I visited my beauty at Airline. They really tried to milk me for drinks, and I ended spending quite a bit of money for those damn drinks. I was amazed at all the different tricks girls do to get a drink out of me. Some of them had the guts to ask for more than one drink. Eventually, I just stopped going to that bar, and found different ways to get my girl out of there.

Another trend I noticed was that working girls were rather careless about the cover, this time around. I had to insist on the cover on a couple of occasions, as the girl was ready for it without cover. That was a bit scary given that I am often times tipsy by the time I have a girl in my room.

This time, I also did more site seeing at the insistence of my wingman. We visited Big Budha, and Koh Larn which I enjoyed quite a bit. We also took a couple of days off and visited Koh Samed, off Rayong / Ban Phe. That was fun!

I was happy to see that the horde of Russians is gone, but unfortunately it was replaced by a bigger horde of Chinese. They seem to enjoy visiting Walking Street with their grandmas and grandpas, except that there are too many of them at times. At Koh Samed, we had to go away when the Chinese tourists had to eat. They took over all available tables. That was not an issue though, as we were in no hurry.

Member #4698
11-04-15, 02:20
As usual, the gogo scene seems to shift from one year to the next. In this trip, I thought the following bars were the best, in terms of quality and quantity of eye candy: Sensation, What's up, Baccara, Sapphire, and Sky Fall. We did not check every bar so we may have missed some good ones.

I was also surprised at some of the changes I noticed recently. I usually travel during the high season, and this time it was still low season, I think. I have read comments in the past about the Thai logic, and how they tend to charge more in the low season to make up for lost revenue. Well, I experienced that first hand when I visited my beauty at Airline. They really tried to milk me for drinks, and I ended spending quite a bit of money for those damn drinks. I was amazed at all the different tricks girls do to get a drink out of me. Some of them had the guts to ask for more than one drink. Eventually, I just stopped going to that bar, and found different ways to get my girl out of there.

Another trend I noticed was that working girls were rather careless about the cover, this time around. I had to insist on the cover on a couple of occasions, as the girl was ready for it without cover. That was a bit scary given that I am often times tipsy by the time I have a girl in my room.

I was happy to see that the horde of Russians is gone, but unfortunately it was replaced by a bigger horde of Chinese. They seem to enjoy visiting Walking Street with their grandmas and grandpas, except that there are too many of them at times. At Koh Samed, we had to go away when the Chinese tourists had to eat. They took over all available tables. That was not an issue though, as we were in no hurry.Lefeu, I was in BKK and Pat around the same time as yourself. In fact I have some inside information that we might have both been in Crazy House (Cowboy) on the same night. Anyway I just wanted to say that I agree with just about everything you reported above. My favorite Pattaya bars this trip in order of my preference were What's Up, Sapphire, and Sensations. What's Up because they seemed to have the hottest little girls and the place is real lively. Sapphire because I ran into an old favorite gal of mine that I had not seen in 3 years, WOW! That was the surprise of the trip. Sensations because they still have some cute girls.

Bars change from season to season, year to year. In 2014 Sensations was my favorite bar because I thought they had the best girls back then. Happy was my next favorite and What's Up was my third favorite. But not this trip. I only took one girl out of Sensations this trip. Actually I think Sensations has gone down hill a little bit in girl quality since 2014 and did not live up to the whole justification of an Agency Coyote bar thing which is the promise of higher quality girls. But What's Up always amazes. God, I hate to love this bar, but I do love it because they always have really high quality girls. Then I found Sapphire somewhere in between these two bars. So I think Sapphire is a really good bar with some attractive girls, some not so attractive girls, and a great overall atmosphere. Anyway these 3 were my favorite bars this fall. Incidentally, I was disappointed with the LK Metro Go Go's and I never made it over to Happy or Airline, two bars I always liked a lot on past trips.

I really enjoy Pattaya in the low season. You will never catch me in Pattaya in December or January. The thing about low season Pattaya is that the hordes are gone, but the better bars are still going strong and have a solid ratio of girls to customers. Drink demand may be higher, the girls are wanting, but the girls all seem to be real friendly too. I had a great time.

Lefeu
11-04-15, 05:25
I have some inside information that we might have both been in Crazy House (Cowboy) on the same night.Indeed, I was at CH (Cowboy) one night, and I would have loved to share a drink or two with you. I have always enjoyed reading your TRs, and it would have been a pleasure chatting with you. Hopefully, one day we might meet.


I found Sapphire somewhere in between these two bars.I was in that club last year and I was surprised how much it has improved since then. My Airline WG had a friend dancing there, so we were there quite often. We would barfine her and then go to Isaan disco at the entrance of Walking Street. I developed a liking for Isaan music. I am not much of a dancer, but I danced a storm with those 2 chicks, and I had a blast with them.


The thing about low season Pattaya is that the hordes are gone, but the better bars are still going strong and have a solid ratio of girls to customers.I definitely noticed that. We visited a couple of GoGo bars late, around 3:30 am, and I was surprised how many pretty ladies were still there, available for the taking. Also, the atmosphere was unreal, so many girls and so few customers. The girls were monkeying around, as if there were no men around. I really enjoyed watching that scene.

Banana Boi
11-04-15, 06:25
I thought the following bars were the best, in terms of quality and quantity of eye candy: Sensation, What's up, Baccara, Sapphire, and Sky Fall. We did not check every bar so we may have missed some good ones.


My favorite Pattaya bars this trip in order of my preference were What's Up, Sapphire, and Sensations. What's Up because they seemed to have the hottest little girls and the place is real lively. Sapphire because I ran into an old favorite gal of mine that I had not seen in 3 years, WOW! That was the surprise of the trip. Sensations because they still have some cute girls.Thanks for the update on which clubs are good right now. I finally arrive on Friday. Any clubs to avoid?

Member #4698
11-05-15, 11:44
Thanks for the update on which clubs are good right now. I finally arrive on Friday. Any clubs to avoid?Hey BB, I know you have researched the topic thoroughly and you are looking forward to your first trip to LOS. My only piece of advice to you is to trust your instincts and not try to see everything because you can't. For example, you probably have a list of 10 or more recommended Pattaya Go Go's. That's fine, all I am saying is don't let your list override what you find on the ground when you arrive.

A common mistake some new guys make when they first arrive is they want to check out all the bars before they take a girl. This approach can lead to passing on some very excellent girls early in the night and winding up with a not as good a girl later on. Remember, you can always check out more bars later in the evening after your first boom boom or the next night. Alternatively, you can also decide to see a girl you really like again and again and not visit half the bars on your list. It is all up to you. My advice is do what feels right, trust you instincts, and not be beholden to any list. I make lists too, but as soon as I hit South East Asia my lists go into my back pocket and I go with the vibe and what I find on the ground. What happens next is always somewhat of a surprise and it feels new. Thus no trip is like the last one and I still have places to look forward to that I have not yet seen. I can practically guarantee you that your first trip to LOS will not be your last.

So let's say on your first night in town you visit Sensations Go Go or any bar at the top of your list and see a girl that you like the look of. You buy her a drink and discover she is real friendly and wants to show you a good time. My advice to you at this point is; forget the list, keep it in your back pocket, barfine the girl, and enjoy Pattaya. On the other hand, keep looking if you do not find what you are looking for at the 1st, 2nd or 3rd bar, but I doubt you will have to look in more than 2 or 3 top Go Go's to find a girl that suits your tastes and is real nice.

NB

Uncle Volodya
11-05-15, 17:59
I really enjoy Pattaya in the low season. You will never catch me in Pattaya in December or January. The thing about low season Pattaya is that the hordes are gone, but the better bars are still going strong and have a solid ratio of girls to customers. Drink demand may be higher, the girls are wanting, but the girls all seem to be real friendly too. I had a great time.Hi Natty old buddy.

I will definitely be checking out your recommendations bar wise. I only made it to Saphire back in August. But I was impressed.

I agree with your assessment that low season is way better. As you already know, due to my schedule this year I can swing a December-January trip. I still think Patts and BKK are the best mongering destinations on earth, even in high season. But rest assured I will be back next low season too. Hehe.

That said, I am getting the hell out of town for the days around New Years eve to party with my fave Vietnamese girl in HCM and will be back in Patts only on January 3. I hope this helps me avoid most of the high season rush. I will be spending most of my time leading up to New Year with my Thai regular -- with the occasional side trip to the Six and WS for variety's sake. I think its important to have some sure things lined up during high season. 555.

Stay horny my friend.

Uncle V.

Member #4698
11-05-15, 19:35
Uncle V,

I think you are going to have a great time in LOS during your Dec-Jan trip. When I wrote, "you will never catch me in Pattaya in December or January." I was exaggerating just a tad to make my point which was I think low season in Patt is better. But if I was facing the choice of visiting LOS over Dec-Jan or skipping Thailand for a year, you can bet your last bhat I would go in December-January and have a blast. HA HA. So I am sure your favorite Thai sweetheart will take good care of you leading up to New Years and I also think New Years eve in HCM with your beautiful Vietnamese gal will be a memorable way to bring in the New Year. I will probably be smoking a "J" and watching "Its a Wonderful Life" on cable over New Years Eve, USA. Just kidding!

But truth be told, I am back home only 7 days now and I already miss Asia and all my girls. What is wrong with me? My next trip will be in 4 months. I am already booked and know exactly where I am heading. I can't wait to go back to BKK and all my favorite places like CH, Baccara, RB4, LA Belle, Copa Cabana, Addict, Boss, the Pimp, and even Sherbert (maybe). And Patt too with my favorite Go Go's like Sapphire, Sensations, What's Up, Happy (I still remember the little cutie with the large natural breasts and big smile who picked ME up there in March), Airport, Skyfall, IBar (your personal favorite).

I also miss really good Thai food and so much more. Not too mention I am looking forward to Jakarta for 2 weeks (Yummy), and going back to Makati. I think I already told you about how I got kind of carried away with T and Tequila shots at her Burgos St. Halloween bar party last week and I asked her to come along with me to Cloud 9, Siargao Island in April. She of course smiled large and said yes. OMG. I even took her out shopping two days later and bought her a pair of sunglasses and a bikini for the trip. 555. Life is good. Its good to be a punter.

Mr Enternational
11-05-15, 20:33
Be careful gentlemen. There was a murder on Walking Street about 6 pm tonight. A Thai gentleman found out that his wife had a new foreign boyfriend.

Uncle Volodya
11-06-15, 06:47
Life is good. Its good to be a punter.It certainly is my friend.

I am glad you will be back in the saddle in a few short months. Unfortunately I will probably be busy at work that month. But I know our paths will cross some day. And it will be glorious! .

The Cane
11-06-15, 11:44
Be careful gentlemen. There was a murder on Walking Street about 6 pm tonight. A Thai gentleman found out that his wife had a new foreign boyfriend.Here's the story behind the pics: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/868520-murder-on-walking-street-pattaya-breaking-news/.

Banana Boi
11-07-15, 00:35
Not sure which 711 this was but I was on walking street around 11 pm tonight and it seemed normal again.

Daddy07
11-07-15, 02:40
Not sure which 711 this was but I was on walking street around 11 pm tonight and it seemed normal again.It's the entrance to the 7-11 located directly across the street from Sugar Baby a-go-go. The body was lying next to a counter where pizzas are sold. I know the place very well. A grisly tale indeed and a good reminder to never [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off a Thai man.

Rocco Sha
11-07-15, 03:41
Thanks for the update on which clubs are good right now. I finally arrive on Friday. Any clubs to avoid?The classification of a good club in subjective to the individual.

Personally I would never step in What'up, Sapphire, SkyFall and Baccara. They have got lot of cute girls, but they are mostly coyote and I can't bother stay in a club just for chatting girls. These clubs are great for travelers looking for a fake girlfriend experience, assuming they are "clean" girls because they don't strip naked on the stage.

If this is the case, avoid the Ago-go and go strait to the clubs, Insomnia disco being the top choice.

In the clubs you can play the girlfriend experience anyway on your term without paying for huge barfine. You will find the girls form the above mention clubs be there on their day of from work at 12 am, and after 3 am when the gogos shut down.

My favorite Agogos are; Windmill, SugarBaby and Blu Electric.

Why?

Because I love to see naked girls on stage, keep my hands busy playing with them and they are up for anything.

However, I discourage first visitors in Pattaya to visit these establishments because they might shock you.

No one talk about LK METRO's clubs?

Some feedback would be appreciate? Ages I don't go down there.

Banana Boi
11-08-15, 14:50
I'll do a major report when I have some time. Still jet lagged and tired from night 1.

What I wanted to say for now is I walked into Marine Disco about 5 times Saturday night between midnight and 4 am. I didn't see a single pretty FL at all. Am I missing something? Insomnia was rocking though. The few pretty ones I liked were already with guys.

Lots of pretty girls here. A LOT better than anything I expected. They're everywhere!

What's Up was topless for the set of girls in white. Sugar Baby and Happy were disappointing. Sugar Baby girls were topless but sometimes you wish they weren't. Sapphire has the best lineup by far in my first 2 nights. Fun club and I agree I would have liked to have seen some of them topless so I can consider barfining them.

I will provide you with a LK Metro soon enough. I was going to go to Devil's Den and Crystals tonight but am a big jet lagged so will walk up and down soi 6-8 instead. Takes energy fighting off some of these gogo girls.

My story of the night was I walking along WS last night when a ladyboy grabbed my hand and felt her 'pussy' and she says 'I am lady'. Um no. I recognize her from the youtube WS videos.

Christian G
11-08-15, 15:07
I walked into Marine Disco about 5 times Saturday night between midnight and 4 am. I didn't see a single pretty FL at all. Am I missing something? Yes, you went there too early.


I was going to go to Devil's Den If you want try Devil's Den go there at opening time, check the full line up and make a booking for your preferred time.


My story of the night was I walking along WS last night when a ladyboy grabbed my hand and felt her 'pussy' and she says 'I am lady'. Um no. I recognize her from the youtube WS videos.Many post-op LB on WS, you can recognize them well for the absurd silicon hips, many plastic surgery everywhere.

Banana Boi
11-08-15, 15:07
Soi 7 and 8. What prices should I be paying. Walking around now and couple young pretty things on soi 8. Asking cause I don't want to jack up the prices for you guys.

Actually my final visit to marine Disco was maybe 5:15 am or so, after What's Up and Sapphire closed. Is this still too early?

Lefeu
11-08-15, 15:36
Soi 7 and 8. What prices should I be paying. Walking around now and couple young pretty things on soi 8. Asking cause I don't want to jack up the prices for you guys.

Actually my final visit to marine Disco was maybe 5:15 am or so, after What's Up and Sapphire closed. Is this still too early?Mr BB, you appear to be clueless despite having close to 2 K posts. Where have you been? I suggest you get a wingman to show you around and answer all these questions for you. Here are some answers: Soy 7/8, no more than 1 K bahts, and after you do this a couple of times you will get the hang of it.

Marine disco at 5:15 am? Don't you get any sleep?

Banana Boi
11-08-15, 17:31
Mr BB, you appear to be clueless despite having close to 2 K posts. Where have you been? I suggest you get a wingman to show you around and answer all these questions for you. Here are some answers: Soy 7/8, no more than 1 K bahts, and after you do this a couple of times you will get the hang of it.Dude only been in Thailand for 2 days give me a effin' break. What do you know about Germany FKK's cause that's where I've been for years.

Thanks for the info. Again, was trying to protect overpaying for the benefit of the board but I see for a second time now trying to help you guys and not overpay is cause for criticism.

Run Mann
11-08-15, 18:03
I will overpay and crank up those rates from here on in.Overpay all you want but the rates will only be "cranked up' for you and people like you who want to overpay. Way too many options here for anyone to pay more than THEY want to pay.

Breadman
11-08-15, 21:41
Overpay all you want but the rates will only be "cranked up' for you and people like you who want to overpay. Way too many options here for anyone to pay more than THEY want to pay.The problem with overpaying is that once you do it, you won't be able to get a lower rate. They'll expect the same amount of money if you repeat.

Lefeu
11-08-15, 22:52
Dude only been in Thailand for 2 days give me a effin' break. What do you know about Germany FKK's cause that's where I've been for years.Ok, then you're excused, only because Germany is one of my favorite mongering place, specifically the FKKs around Frankfurt, and Koln / theüsseldorf. I go there every year and I always have a good time.

Pattaya is a different environment but there is plenty of Intel in the forum. As they say, just RTFF, or maybe if I meet you at one of the FKKs one day, I will share some Intel about Pattaya.

Banana Boi
11-08-15, 23:31
I have read the forum since March or April and my poor memory or jet lag failed to remember that 1000 baht was a set rate for all soi 7 and 8 girls.

However, you can read the forum all you want but there is certain info that just isn't on the Pattaya forum that I recall seeing like how I just picked up a girl I met on night 1 for a freebie only to have her turned away at my hotel a few minutes ago since she was under 20. Didn't know this was a rule for a girl friendly hotel. I had no idea since imo she looks older than many of the other gogo girls.

Long91
11-09-15, 02:03
What are some choices for not expensive breakfast buffets.

ActionOriented
11-09-15, 03:33
I have read the forum since March or April and my poor memory or jet lag failed to remember that 1000 baht was a set rate for all soi 7 and 8 girls.

However, you can read the forum all you want but there is certain info that just isn't on the Pattaya forum that I recall seeing like how I just picked up a girl I met on night 1 for a freebie only to have her turned away at my hotel a few minutes ago since she was under 20. Didn't know this was a rule for a girl friendly hotel. I had no idea since imo she looks older than many of the other gogo girls.I think there may be a 21 rule at some of the hotels (never encountered this personally), but there are some guest houses around where you have you an entrance key to the front door (no staff around only cameras) may be you could re-locate there for a day or two should you want to entertain the under 20 chic.

ActionOriented
11-09-15, 03:35
What are some choices for not expensive breakfast buffets.A member had recommended the buffet at the Lek Hotel on 2nd road turning out from soi 13, it's cheap. You could try the Sunday Carvery at Robin's Nest as well.

Lefeu
11-09-15, 03:51
However, you can read the forum all you want but there is certain info that just isn't on the Pattaya forum that I recall seeing like how I just picked up a girl I met on night 1 for a freebie only to have her turned away at my hotel a few minutes ago since she was under 20. Didn't know this was a rule for a girl friendly hotel. I had no idea since imo she looks older than many of the other gogo girls.Valid point you made above. I did not know that either. Likewise, if I girl does not have an ID, they would not let her in.

However, I learned from Rio, where hotels don't allow you to bring in a girl period, to just ask the girl. They know where the short time hotels are. They would rent you a room by the hour, no question asked, and this is the case in most cities in South America.

Also, right there in Pattaya, there are few hotels where you can pick a room in a given wing, where the reception does not see you come or go. I stayed in one of those last April and every girl I brought was taken straight to my room, bypassing the registration process. However, most experienced hobbyist would advise against that. It is safer to go through the reception, and I do that most of the times.

Banana Boi
11-09-15, 04:47
I definitely will not bring a girl back to my room without having the hotel take her ID first. Imo not worth the risk unless you know the girls somewhat and would have taken her back to your own place if you were back home.

Anyone know the reason why there is a 20 under rule? I am correct that age of consent for a working girl is 18, right? Certainly have no interest in doing something illegal here.

Mr Enternational
11-09-15, 04:52
A member had recommended the buffet at the Lek Hotel on 2nd road turning out from soi 13, it's cheap.It is terrible. There really are no good breakfast buffets in Pattaya that I have seen (maybe check the larger hotels like Hard Rock, Marriott, or Hilton). Lek, Apex, and I forget the name of the place on Buakhow (purple sign), they all suck. The only half decent one that I have seen was at the Sunshine Hotel on Soi 8 when I first started going to Pattaya. I used to stay there and it was free with the room. If I had to pay for it then that might have been a different story. I wouldn't even let them pay me to eat again at the first 3 that I mentioned. These days, every morning I eat at Thip's on the corner of Klang and 3rd. It is not a buffet but to me pretty much the best breakfast in Pattaya for the price. After Thip's then Robin's Nest. And of course Foodland grocery store.

Gin And Tonic
11-09-15, 07:23
It is terrible. There really are no good breakfast buffets in Pattaya that I have seen (maybe check the larger hotels like Hard Rock, Marriott, or Hilton). Lek, Apex, and I forget the name of the place on Buakhow (purple sign), they all suck. The only half decent one that I have seen was at the Sunshine Hotel on Soi 8 when I first started going to Pattaya. I used to stay there and it was free with the room. If I had to pay for it then that might have been a different story. I wouldn't even let them pay me to eat again at the first 3 that I mentioned. These days, every morning I eat at Thip's on the corner of Klang and 3rd. It is not a buffet but to me pretty much the best breakfast in Pattaya for the price. After Thip's then Robin's Nest. And of course Foodland grocery store.I recommend the Denmark Hotel for a decent buffet. It is on the soi just past Jomtien Beach Rd Soi7.

Uncle Volodya
11-09-15, 08:48
I'll do a major report when I have some time. Still jet lagged and tired from night 1.

What I wanted to say for now is I walked into Marine Disco about 5 times Saturday night between midnight and 4 am. I didn't see a single pretty FL at all. Am I missing something? Insomnia was rocking though. The few pretty ones I liked were already with guys.

Lots of pretty girls here. A LOT better than anything I expected. They're everywhere!

What's Up was topless for the set of girls in white. Sugar Baby and Happy were disappointing. Sugar Baby girls were topless but sometimes you wish they weren't. Sapphire has the best lineup by far in my first 2 nights. Fun club and I agree I would have liked to have seen some of them topless so I can consider barfining them.

I will provide you with a LK Metro soon enough. I was going to go to Devil's Den and Crystals tonight but am a big jet lagged so will walk up and down soi 6-8 instead. Takes energy fighting off some of these gogo girls.

My story of the night was I walking along WS last night when a ladyboy grabbed my hand and felt her 'pussy' and she says 'I am lady'. Um no. I recognize her from the youtube WS videos.Insomnia / Ibar is the place to set up shop. Don't be too flustered if all the girls are taken. There is a steady stream coming in all night. IT is the place to go in town and many of the best gogo girls also end up thee at the end of the evening if they haven't hooked a customer. You can pull there until very late. Though I usually try to get out of there with a girl in tow by 2 AM.

Uncle Volodya
11-09-15, 08:57
I have read the forum since March or April and my poor memory or jet lag failed to remember that 1000 baht was a set rate for all soi 7 and 8 girls.

However, you can read the forum all you want but there is certain info that just isn't on the Pattaya forum that I recall seeing like how I just picked up a girl I met on night 1 for a freebie only to have her turned away at my hotel a few minutes ago since she was under 20. Didn't know this was a rule for a girl friendly hotel. I had no idea since imo she looks older than many of the other gogo girls.What's the story with the freebie girl? Where did you meet her? Sounds like a fun story.

Sucks about 21 rule. I always get a condo.

Long91
11-09-15, 09:11
Thanks for the breakfast tips. I wanted a nice stack of pancakes but could not find that, so I went to Loaf on Soi Lenkee and got the french toast with bacon and eggs. Looked and tasted nice but, I'm not Into artsy food. When I want to eat, I Want To Eat.

Beno69
11-09-15, 09:38
....There really are no good breakfast buffets in Pattaya that I have seen...

Depends how much you want to spend. The Hilton Brunch Buffet is about 500 THB (from Mo-Thur) starts at 12:00 - very nice high class Food. And also very nice decorated with style.

Then 'chez Pascale' (2nd Road, near Avenue Shopping) about 220 THB. Really nice Breakfast with fresh milk / yoghurt / cheese / fruits / grill outside made as you like it.

Banana Boi
11-09-15, 12:20
Visited soi 6 twice this week. It's not the best talent but you have to walk up and down a few times to find a gem. For the 300 + 1000 baht fee can't argue too much.

Can I assume the ones on the left side of soi 6 when you're walking towards Beach are all ladyboys? 1 or 2 bars may not be but they all seem like ladyboys to me.

ActionOriented
11-09-15, 12:32
Visited soi 6 twice this week. It's not the best talent but you have to walk up and down a few times to find a gem. For the 300 + 1000 baht fee can't argue too much.

Can I assume the ones on the left side of soi 6 when you're walking towards Beach are all ladyboys? 1 or 2 bars may not be but they all seem like ladyboys to me.Not all on the left are LB bars. Pook and one with the darkened windows and red blinds on the left are LB bars. C-lick is a good BJ bar, all ladies.

Christian G
11-09-15, 12:37
Can I assume the ones on the left side of soi 6 when you're walking towards Beach are all ladyboys? 1 or 2 bars may not be but they all seem like ladyboys to me.No, isn't all Ladyboy. Have some Ladyboys bar that have a second entry on soi 6/1, and some mixed bar with GG and LB. On the left side have bar like Solo Club, Spider Bar, My Friend You, Route 69, Lick Bar, and more that are not LB's bar, but you can find some LB's in the line up like Solo Club.

On the left side I think Pook, Hi Boss and So What are all LBs.

Uncle Volodya
11-09-15, 12:51
Not all on the left are LB bars. Pook and one with the darkened windows and red blinds on the left are LB bars. C-lick is a good BJ bar, all ladies.Here is a good map of Soi 6 that lays out the bars and their LB situation.

BB: Will you ever tell us the details of your freebie pickup? 555.

Breadman
11-09-15, 15:33
What's the story with the freebie girl? Where did you meet her? Sounds like a fun story.

Sucks about 21 rule. I always get a condo.Nothing is ever free, question is how much was spent on drinks, dinner etc. Unlikely a girl walks up to you and says I'm yours for free tonight. Had one last trip that cost me 800 baht for dinner and drinks. She didn't ask for money until the second night.

Jgm005
11-09-15, 16:12
A member had recommended the buffet at the Lek Hotel on 2nd road turning out from soi 13, it's cheap. You could try the Sunday Carvery at Robin's Nest as well.If it is a Sunday carvery one is looking for the Sportmans bar on Soi 13 is better than Robin's Nest. Obviously a personal opinion.

Banana Boi
11-09-15, 23:29
Soi 6 today between 4-6 pm. Really a waste of time as there was nothing to my liking. There was one girl forgot the name of the place but will check next visit who I thought was the hottest one. When I spoke with her she sounded fine. No man's voice. She confirmed she was a girl. However, I backed off since over half the girls in the front were definite ladyboys. Now that I have the chart I will try to match if it is a ladyboy pllace or not. Thanks Uncle V.

As for my freebie girl, I hope you understand she isn't being named unless I figure out she's a scam.

Banana Boi
11-09-15, 23:38
Went to Windmill tonight. From what I recall reading I wasn't expecting much talent at all but decided to go cause I felt raunch was in the cards tonight. Talent wise I found the club way better than some others I visited. In fact there were 3 girls there I really liked. As for cost what a bargain this place is. You buy the girl a drink for around 200 baht and you can basically do anything you want with her for 3 songs until she rotates back on stage. TP, TS, KP, AP, DP, DFK, DATY, HJ over pants, or just pure fun lap dances. I will definitely be back. LOTS of FUN! Great atmosphere.

Advise to get there early since you may like a girl and not be able to get her for hours because they keep going back to the same guy for hours.

Next time I'm going for the 10 tequila for 1000 baht deal. That covers 30 songs of fun for 30 euro.

Fast Eddie 48
11-10-15, 02:45
It is terrible. There really are no good breakfast buffets in Pattaya that I have seen (maybe check the larger hotels like Hard Rock, Marriott, or Hilton). Lek, Apex, and I forget the name of the place on Buakhow (purple sign), they all suck. The only half decent one that I have seen was at the Sunshine Hotel on Soi 8 when I first started going to Pattaya. I used to stay there and it was free with the room. If I had to pay for it then that might have been a different story. I wouldn't even let them pay me to eat again at the first 3 that I mentioned. These days, every morning I eat at Thip's on the corner of Klang and 3rd. It is not a buffet but to me pretty much the best breakfast in Pattaya for the price. After Thip's then Robin's Nest. And of course Foodland grocery store.To Mr Enternational.

I stay at the Sunshine in Sep most tourist are Indians so they have Indians food for the breakfast buffets is not very good, I agree the buffets here is not very good you need to go to Bangkok.

Fast eddie 48.

ActionOriented
11-10-15, 03:35
If it is a Sunday carvery one is looking for the Sportmans bar on Soi 13 is better than Robin's Nest. Obviously a personal opinion.I've eaten at the Sportsman, but haven't tried the Sunday carvery, the food appeared similar to Pigs and Whistle on soi 7/8, not bad at all. I prefer the american brek at Robin's (not the carvery).

ActionOriented
11-10-15, 03:39
Here is a good map of Soi 6 that lays out the bars and their LB situation.
The other forum keeps updating this map based on newer inputs from members, so quite helpful, thanks for posting it here. Although when you enlarge the thumbnail, the names of the bars aren't very clear.

Blanquiceleste
11-10-15, 05:26
...The only half decent one that I have seen was at the Sunshine Hotel on Soi 8 when I first started going to Pattaya. I used to stay there and it was free with the room. I stopped breakfast at Sunshine too after they started charging for it. But I found Sailor Bar on Soi 8 to be an excellent alternative. It is not a buffet but you can get what you want there and the prices are very reasonable. Did I mention they make a mean Long Island Ice Tea?

Uncle Volodya
11-10-15, 08:00
As for my freebie girl, I hope you understand she isn't being named unless I figure out she's a scam.Of course! I am just curious where and how you met her.

Banana Boi
11-10-15, 08:01
The other forum keeps updating this map based on newer inputs from members, so quite helpful, thanks for posting it here. Although when you enlarge the thumbnail, the names of the bars aren't very clear.Yeah it's too bad the names aren't easier to read. AO, can you pm me the url to the updated map please. Thank you.

Banana Boi
11-10-15, 08:08
I know I've only been here 4 days but I've walked through Soi 7 and soi 8 as well as the Beach Road FL's several times throughout the night and although there are plenty of providers very few were appealing to me. What is prime time for Beach Road FL's?

As I was on a baht bus going along Beach road there was something going on near soi 7 or 8. All I heard was police on a PA speaker saying something like 'we want to make Pattaya as safe as possible for tourists'. The police also walked en masse through Walking Street last night with news crews taking videos and pictures. I guess this is the fallout of the Walking Street murder the other night.

Gin And Tonic
11-10-15, 08:31
I know I've only been here 4 days but I've walked through Soi 7 and soi 8 as well as the Beach Road FL's several times throughout the night and although there are plenty of providers very few were appealing to me. What is prime time for Beach Road FL's?

As I was on a baht bus going along Beach road there was something going on near soi 7 or 8. All I heard was police on a PA speaker saying something like 'we want to make Pattaya as safe as possible for tourists'. The police also walked en masse through Walking Street last night with news crews taking videos and pictures. I guess this is the fallout of the Walking Street murder the other night.News reports said that this is done yearly as a show of force prior to high season.

Uncle Volodya
11-10-15, 08:37
Yeah it's too bad the names aren't easier to read. AO, can you pm me the url to the updated map please. Thank you.http://www.pattaya-addicts.com/forum/topic/86586-soi-6-bar-hopping-map/page-12

Here it goes. You need to register on the site to access it. A lot of great info there too.

ActionOriented
11-10-15, 12:30
http://www.pattaya-addicts.com/forum/topic/86586-soi-6-bar-hopping-map/page-12

Here it goes. You need to register on the site to access it. A lot of great info there too.BB may already have registered, I had told him to check it a month or so back. I hope the link that Uncle V shared works, because I am not sure I remember my password (whole process of re-setting it now), to be able to retrieve the map!

Banana Boi
11-10-15, 12:34
Anyone have experience getting extras with the massage girls of the Privi suites (on 2nd Road where Baywalk Residence and Aya Boutique hotel are)? There's about 15 of them there and a couple I really like. If so I should have stayed at Privi Suites to have to come up to my room.

Member #4698
11-10-15, 13:18
I know I've only been here 4 days but You are still asking an extraordinary amount of baby questions. Well I have a question for you; have you gotten laid yet since you arrived in LOS? I am sorry if this sounds disrespectful, but I think it is a valid question because so far in your scant reports it appears not. Let me summarize and PLEASE TELL US WHERE I AM WRONG.

1st night you are out an about until 5am. You say you picked up a "freebee" at one point in the evening, but then fail to report, EVEN AFTER BEING ASKED TO DO SO, on any details like where you met her or under what circumstances. You do report the freebie was denied entry at your hotel. Although I personally would have done something about it, hint: TIP the security guard, OK, your loss not mine. But then instead of heading to a ST hotel you apparently let the girl go and head back out into the night winding up at Marine disco at around 5am complaining about the quality of girls there. Uhm!

Another night you report heading to Windmill and am I getting this right; you hang out there fooling around with a girl or girls for a long, long time, but again you apparently do not barfine her or anyone else that night. Am I missing something? Look it is your trip, DO WHAT YOU LIKE! It is just that I find it mighty curious your lack of reporting on anything close to an actual boom boom and your never ending small questions. For example, you say came across a place with some attractive girls hanging out outside. Instead of asking about the place; how about going in, taking a girl upstairs, find out for yourself first hand what is going on, and post a report on your adventure. That's what travel is all about; exploring and trying new things.

Banana Boi
11-10-15, 14:00
Sorry lord natty. I will stop reviewing my stuff for the next 3 weeks. Guys who want to pm me and trade info please feel free to do so.

Member #4698
11-10-15, 14:05
Don't be sorry. It's your trip. Whatever turns you on.


I will stop reviewing my stuff for the next 3 weeks. Guys who want to pm me and trade info please feel free to do so.

And don't try to lay a bullshit guilt trip on me. Boo Hoo Hoo. I am not the reason for your lack of reporting. If you find me offensive and boorish then by all means put me on ignore. But so far I fail to see any significant contribution to the Thai forum on your part. It is 95% baby questions with scant informational content on your part. Other board members who have responded to your questions have provided the content. I might be wrong about you being a friendly troll. A couple of real posts from you would demonstrate this. But in the meantime you still have not answered my simple question: Have you gotten your dick wet yet in Pattaya?

Uncle Volodya
11-10-15, 18:43
Don't be sorry. It's your trip. Whatever turns you on.



And don't try to lay a bullshit guilt trip on me. Boo Hoo Hoo. I am not the reason for your lack of reporting. If you find me offensive and boorish then by all means put me on ignore. But so far I fail to see any significant contribution to the Thai forum on your part. It is 95% baby questions with scant informational content on your part. Other board members who have responded to your questions have provided the content. I might be wrong about you being a friendly troll. A couple of real posts from you would demonstrate this. But in the meantime you still have not answered my simple question: Have you gotten your dick wet yet in Pattaya?Natty dropping the hammer! 555.

Grasshopper, aka BB, you are not even close to getting the stone out of the master's hand. Time to go back to the Shaolin temple and meditate on where you have gone wrong.

Member #4698
11-10-15, 19:40
Natty dropping the hammer! 555.

Yeah I am a real tough guy. LOL. But in truth, BB is only the 2nd BM I have called out personally since I became a ISG member. I just get a weird vibe from him. He asks and asks his small questions yet it does not really look to me like he pays much attention to the answers he receives. I generally just ignore him.

But when you queried him with the question, "What's the story with the freebie girl? Where did you meet her? Sounds like a fun story. " Which is certainly a fair and legitimate question, he responded by answering a different unasked strawman question: "As for my freebie girl, I hope you understand she isn't being named unless I figure out she's a scam. " So you responded with a gentle, "I am just curious where and how you met her," and we are still left waiting for BB's reply. UHM!

Now why is this question relevant? Because there could be real informational content here that might be of use to new visitors to Pattaya. Who knows? At the present all we do know is that a first time visitor to Pattaya on his first night in town hits a few bars and what not and then at some point in the night he hooks up with a girl who convinces him she is an amateur or "freebie" in the OP's words. Later we are to understand that this "freebie" is denied access to the OP's hotel room by hotel security.

So what are we supposed to make of this bare set of information? It might be exactly as stated by the OP. But what are the odds of that? Rather small I think. Or maybe the girl was not a "freebie" and there was some kind of honest communication gap between the two which seems to me to be a much more likely scenario. Or maybe a con was going on and maybe that is why the hotel security denied the girl access to the OP's room. WHO knows? That's why it would be nice if we had more information about this incident like where they met, what happened between them during the 1st hour of conversation, and at what point did she present herself to the OP as an amateur not interested in his money.

So let's hear the whole story BB. Inquiring minds want to know so we can then offer our insights and some informed opinions of what actually went down. And by the way BB, I don't care what you like to do or not do with girls, guys, or ladyboys. As John Lennon said, "Whatever gets you through the night is all right" as long as it is between consenting adults and nobody is physically or mentally hurt.

LittleBigMan
11-11-15, 01:34
Natty dropping the hammer! 555.

Grasshopper, aka BB, you are not even close to getting the stone out of the master's hand. Time to go back to the Shaolin temple and meditate on where you have gone wrong.Hey, leave the Shaoln out of this, you talking about my relatives. From the sound of things they might be getting more pussy than this guy?

Uncle Volodya
11-11-15, 03:34
Hey, leave the Shaoln out of this, you talking about my relatives. From the sound of things they might be getting more pussy than this guy?LMAO! Too good LBM.

UltraHappy
11-11-15, 03:58
I for one enjoy reading Banana Boi's "live-blogging"-style reporting. It's nice to read things from a Newbie perspective and to read the helpful answers.

What is really annoying is all the assholes who are constantly criticizing him and his sharing of information simply because his questions and reporting don't meet some people's so-called criteria for posting here.

The constant criticizing only serves to inhibit the sharing of information and drive readers away. If you don't like reading Banana Boi's post, then by damn, don't read them. Or add him to your ignore list. It's super easy. Just click on his name, then click on "view profile," then click on "add to ignore list. " Very simple. Instead of merely not reading his posts or adding him to your ignore list, no, instead, you guys go to all this trouble to point out all the ways his reporting doesn't live up to your so-called posting standards.

It doesn't surprise me that this thread lacks a lot of truly useful information with all the negativity here.

Next time, think about spreading good energy. For people who are living somewhere with so much pussy, some of you guys sure seem to be wound up pretty tight.

Relax a little!

If anyone should be uptight and wound up, it ought to be me since I'm stuck in USA sex prison!

Breadman
11-11-15, 04:53
At ultra happy, how much useful information are you looking for? There are over 20000 bars in pattaya, you land and just start walking. This board gives you ideas on hotels, what areas to hit and more if you add research to your reading. It can't hold your hand when you're on the ground.

AyranMan
11-11-15, 05:25
I'm planning my next trip to Asia. I was already in Bangkok. Should I go to Bangkok again or Pattaya? Only would have time for one of the cities. What one is better and why?

I didn't go to many places in Bangkok (only one or two) since it was my first time in Asia and I wanted to get acquainted with it first. Do the bars in BKK or Pattaya allow you to go in for free and look at the girls to see if you like them first? What are some good questions to ask at the door to make sure the place isn't a scam?

Breadman
11-11-15, 05:31
Problem with picking up a girl from WS and needing to get to your hotel is having to grab two motorbikes. One reason why I like the tuktuks of Bangkok, your girl is next to you.

Uncle Volodya
11-11-15, 06:33
Problem with picking up a girl from WS and needing to get to your hotel is having to grab two motorbikes. One reason why I like the tuktuks of Bangkok, your girl is next to you.They always let me take one moto with the girl. Never had them insist on 2. And I am not a small guy.

Breadman
11-11-15, 06:52
They always let me take one moto with the girl. Never had them insist on 2. And I am not a small guy.Really? I'm 6'6" 265 lbs, think we'd be doing a wheelie back to the hotel. But the Evergreen is very close to WS, probably could manage. But wouldn't two people on one bike cost 40?

Gin And Tonic
11-11-15, 08:21
Really? I'm 6'6" 265 lbs, think we'd be doing a wheelie back to the hotel. But the Evergreen is very close to WS, probably could manage. But wouldn't two people on one bike cost 40?Usually same price. They 2 x the price for 2 on a bike so you are better off taking 2 motorbike taxis.

LittleBigMan
11-11-15, 10:14
Problem with picking up a girl from WS and needing to get to your hotel is having to grab two motorbikes. One reason why I like the tuktuks of Bangkok, your girl is next to you.Unless your hotel is way out of the way like the darkside, from W. S. All you got to do is exit from Marine Seafood, P. 72 (across from Lucifers), Soi Diamond (Moon Go Go) up to 2nd Road and wave down a Songthaw for 10 baht. There are Songthaw outside of Marine seafood and Soi Diamond waiting for private hire again unless your place is out of the tourist spot should run you around 150 baht for a private ride.

Member #4698
11-11-15, 18:06
There is nothing wrong with taking a Songthaw. It is a very convenient form of public transportation. I take them all the time. But when I am with a girl and staying at the Evergreen or some other hotel not quite on the Songthaw's route, I prefer a motor cycle taxi's door to door service. I am 5'10" and weigh 180 lbs so I never had a problem with a girl and myself riding on the back of a motorcycle taxi. Some drivers do try to take advantage of the situation and ask for more money than they should. I just walk away and talk to the next driver. I do not recall ever paying more than 80 bhat for transportation back to my hotel with a girl.

The same kind of nonsense occurs in BKK directly in front of Soi Cowboy on Soi 23. Some greedy taxi drivers ask for crazy set fares and will refuse to turn on their meter. Just walk a half a block down the soi and flag a passing taxi. The honest drivers always turn on their meters and the fare rarely exceeds 60 bhat back to my hotel. Some of the greedy taxi drivers will ask for 150bt fixed fare. I think it is wrong to do business with them. Walk a half a block and reward the honest drivers with your commerce. And I always tip the honest ones.

PedroT97
11-11-15, 18:29
Boys, I don't much like motos but on my last visit I overcame my fear of them, I had a friend had a bad accident, and if you're worrying about the price of a moto in Pattaya you're in the wrong place and should just stay home and have a wank! Pedro.

Blanquiceleste
11-12-15, 01:43
..... I think it is wrong to do business with them. Walk a half a block and reward the honest drivers with your commerce. And I always tip the honest ones.Well said Natty. Exactly what I do too. Takers exist because Givers encourage them. Cut the supply lines and watch things fall into place.

Mr Enternational
11-12-15, 03:11
I was hanging out all day with my cousin here in the USA and we were hitting the different free restaurants for us military veterans. He told me of a time when fucked a Russian girl in Pattaya. Previously I had thought that the girls in those show clubs did not go with punters. He said that he met her on Walking Street after he had left a disco. She got on his bike with him and went to the room without discussing anything.

When they got to the room she said the price was 5000 baht (same price that I have heard from the Colombians that come to Pattaya to reset their Chinese visas). He said are you crazy. The going rate is 1000 baht. She looked at him like he was crazy and asked if he knew how much money she made in the Russian club. He said he didn't care about that. She said that she should charge him 2000 baht for even leaving with him. He said he ended up talking her down to 3500 baht since she was already in the room with him.

Daddy07
11-13-15, 01:23
I was hanging out all day with my cousin here in the USA and we were hitting the different free restaurants for us military veterans. He told me of a time when fucked a Russian girl in Pattaya. Previously I had thought that the girls in those show clubs did not go with punters. He said that he met her on Walking Street after he had left a disco. She got on his bike with him and went to the room without discussing anything.

When they got to the room she said the price was 5000 baht (same price that I have heard from the Colombians that come to Pattaya to reset their Chinese visas). He said are you crazy. The going rate is 1000 baht. She looked at him like he was crazy and asked if he knew how much money she made in the Russian club. He said he didn't care about that. She said that she should charge him 2000 baht for even leaving with him. He said he ended up talking her down to 3500 baht since she was already in the room with him.Good story. Seems to me like he got what he deserved.

Pussylicker2
11-13-15, 06:57
I've never been overseas. I monger mostly in the Detroit area. I've read about Thailand, watched youtube videos, and read 13 pages of posts here. I notice a lot of the go-go dancers are dressed in a bikini. I've read that sometimes they get nude. But what I want to know is are there places where the girls get naked, and let you perform DATY while they're on stage? I'm kind of an exhibitionist. Also, do the girls in the bars ever give head out in the open?

Thanks everyone.

TellAll
11-13-15, 10:22
I've never been overseas. I monger mostly in the Detroit area. I've read about Thailand, watched youtube videos, and read 13 pages of posts here. I notice a lot of the go-go dancers are dressed in a bikini. I've read that sometimes they get nude. But what I want to know is are there places where the girls get naked, and let you perform DATY while they're on stage? I'm kind of an exhibitionist. Also, do the girls in the bars ever give head out in the open?

Thanks everyone.Yes there are places you can have both.

Blanquiceleste
11-13-15, 17:14
Yes there are places you can have both.DATY and head in the open? Enlighten me please. Just around a couple of months ago there was a furore over a girl giving a BJ in a night club that was caught on cameras. I know most GoGos allow some touching and playing, but DATY & head in the open, I am clueless. I would love to learn more here.

Mr Enternational
11-13-15, 19:52
DATY and head in the open? Enlighten me please. Just around a couple of months ago there was a furore over a girl giving a BJ in a night club that was caught on cameras. I know most GoGos allow some touching and playing, but DATY & head in the open, I am clueless. I would love to learn more here.La Poste I'm sure you can do both. In Windmill I have seen plenty of guys do DATY as well as the old X-Zone. I reported maybe back in July that me and my wingman were getting free head out in the open at a bar on Soi 6. Big difference between a disco and those other places.

Blanquiceleste
11-14-15, 05:22
La Poste I'm sure you can do both. In Windmill I have seen plenty of guys do DATY as well as the old X-Zone. I reported maybe back in July that me and my wingman were getting free head out in the open at a bar on Soi 6. Big difference between a disco and those other places.I had reported on Bar de La Poste myself a few months ago. One has to go behind a curtain to get head. In the open the girl do get naked and you can play with them titties or stick a finger or two in the pussy, but DATY? I don't think so.

Likewise in Soi 6 I have always been led behind a curtain (sometimes a beaded one that offers little privacy. My Friend You).

I have not been to Windmill, as I am, self-admittedly, not much of a GoGo guy. I will visit this place soon and experience this too. Thanks Mr E.

Mogwai
11-14-15, 09:32
DATY and head in the open? I've seen guys DATY girls in gogo's that have a stage where naked girls shower and / or play with eachother. And there are quite a few gogo's that have that kind of stage.

And I've seen guys getting a BBBJ out in the open in the Windmill, Sugarbaby and Baby Dolls Agogo.

LaoMan
11-14-15, 09:35
DATY and head in the open? Enlighten me please. Just around a couple of months ago there was a furore over a girl giving a BJ in a night club that was caught on cameras. I know most GoGos allow some touching and playing, but DATY & head in the open, I am clueless. I would love to learn more here.Yes DATY is often seen at the Windmill and blow jobs as well. Same at a number of soi 6 bars.

Christian G
11-14-15, 15:33
And I've seen guys getting a BBBJ out in the open in the Windmill, Sugarbaby and Baby Dolls Agogo.How much the tip for this "service"?

Blanquiceleste
11-14-15, 16:38
Yes DATY is often seen at the Windmill and blow jobs as well. Same at a number of soi 6 bars.


I've seen guys DATY girls in gogo's that have a stage where naked girls shower and / or play with each other. And there are quite a few gogo's that have that kind of stage.

And I've seen guys getting a BBBJ out in the open in the Windmill, Sugarbaby and Baby Dolls Agogo.Thanks Mogwai & LaoMan. These GoGos are definitely on my list of "to do" bars when I visit next. Any guidance on prices?

My guess is 1000 - 1500 THB.

Mr Enternational
11-14-15, 19:09
How much the tip for this "service"?100 baht. It is 99% of the time not going to be to completion (unless the guy just finishes really fast). It is just going to be a sampler. But truth of the matter is that you do not just walk in to a gogo and sit down and some chick starts slobbing on your knob. It usually happens with a chick who a guy has been sitting with for a while and has bought numerous drinks for. For the DATY, any random guy can walk up to the stage and do that. It usually happens on one of the side stages where the girls are performing some kind of solo or doubles act.

Soldierb11
11-14-15, 22:53
La Poste I'm sure you can do both. In Windmill I have seen plenty of guys do DATY as well as the old X-Zone. I reported maybe back in July that me and my wingman were getting free head out in the open at a bar on Soi 6. Big difference between a disco and those other places.Can also had Club Mistys to the list. In September for the price of a lady drink I stuck ice cubes up a girls pussy and then DATY.

Eszpresszo
11-15-15, 03:42
When they got to the room she said the price was 5000 baht (same price that I have heard from the Colombians that come to Pattaya to reset their Chinese visas). He said are you crazy. The going rate is 1000 baht. She looked at him like he was crazy and asked if he knew how much money she made in the Russian club. He said he didn't care about that. She said that she should charge him 2000 baht for even leaving with him. He said he ended up talking her down to 3500 baht since she was already in the room with him.I did a currency conversion and that figure she agreed to is probably not random. 3500 is just shy of $100 at the currency market rates. For the regular guy, who doesn't get that favorable rate, that conversion would likely be over a $100 - maybe closer to 100 Euros? I just got back from Berlin, and have a good grasp on what a Russian girl gets for an hour of love. Around 100 Euros (or less) in the bordellos or as an independent. So she is wanting to be compensated on a West European pay scale. In my travels in the former Soviet States, I never had to P4 P with any Russian girls. Women in the former Soviet Union are not able to use their tw*t as a precious commodity as in other nations. And with the average monthly Russian wage down to around $500 (food taking up half of the average Russian household's income), I wouldn't imagine she would be making much in any "Russian club". That's probably why she is in Thailand.

My thoughts? When on the ocean, eat the fish. In the Mideast, go for the lamb. In Argentina eat the beef. But don't bother ordering a pierogi until you are in Eastern Europe (if you catch my drift).

Mr Enternational
11-15-15, 04:49
And with the average monthly Russian wage down to around $500 (food taking up half of the average Russian household's income), I wouldn't imagine she would be making much in any "Russian club". That's probably why she is in Thailand.When I said Russian club, I meant the ones such as Galaxy that showcase the Russian girls on Walking Street in Pattaya; not clubs that are in Russia.

TellAll
11-15-15, 08:54
Thanks Mogwai & LaoMan. These GoGos are definitely on my list of "to do" bars when I visit next. Any guidance on prices?

My guess is 1000 - 1500 THB.The Go Go's on walking street. You should expect to pay more than that.

Mogwai
11-15-15, 09:44
The Go Go's on walking street. You should expect to pay more than that.For DATY or a (sampler) BJ? I don't think so.

Mogwai
11-15-15, 09:54
Thanks Mogwai & LaoMan. These GoGos are definitely on my list of "to do" bars when I visit next. Any guidance on prices?

My guess is 1000 - 1500 THB.That is way too high for DATY or a BJ. I've never done it but my guess is it's 'up to you' how much you tip. And it also depends on how many drinks you bought her and how much groping and kissing she allowed.

I would say anything between 100 and 500 is fine. 100 or 200 for DATY or a short sampler BJ and 500 for a BJ to completion.

TellAll
11-15-15, 13:44
That is way too high for DATY or a BJ. I've never done it but my guess is it's 'up to you' how much you tip. And it also depends on how many drinks you bought her and how much groping and kissing she allowed.

I would say anything between 100 and 500 is fine. 100 or 200 for DATY or a short sampler BJ and 500 for a BJ to completion.I assumed he was talking about taking a girl ST or LT not just a sample in the club.

Blanquiceleste
11-15-15, 17:20
I assumed he was talking about taking a girl ST or LT not just a sample in the club.I was referring to a DATY / BJ in a GoGo but all inclusive damages. Drinks and tips for the sneak preview. Seems like I am on the ball.

TheTank85
11-15-15, 21:57
Hello Fellow Mongers!

I was planning on making a trip to Thailand. I was wondering when was the best time to go for mongering activities.

Looking forward to the trip, that is in the initial stages of planning.

Any help of a noob would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and Regards.

ActionOriented
11-16-15, 03:19
Hello Fellow Mongers!

I was planning on making a trip to Thailand. I was wondering when was the best time to go for mongering activities.

Looking forward to the trip, that is in the initial stages of planning.

Any help of a noob would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and Regards.Any time to visit Pattaya is good. Some believe the better time to visit is low season when the tourist crowds are less and you get a better pool to select from (albeit a slightly smaller pool) and some believe high season is better because of an increased number of girls. No matter when you plan your visit, Pattaya (and even BKK) will have lots to offer.

For how to go about planning your trip, please RTFF, lots of good recommendations by members on this board.

TheTank85
11-16-15, 07:27
Any time to visit Pattaya is good. Some believe the better time to visit is low season when the tourist crowds are less and you get a better pool to select from (albeit a slightly smaller pool) and some believe high season is better because of an increased number of girls. No matter when you plan your visit, Pattaya (and even BKK) will have lots to offer.

For how to go about planning your trip, please RTFF, lots of good recommendations by members on this board.I am planning to go for about 1 week and wanted to cover BKK, Pattaya and maybe even Koh Samui.

Tentative plan is for Mid Feb.

Wolvenvacht
11-16-15, 08:10
Hello Fellow Mongers!

I was planning on making a trip to Thailand. I was wondering when was the best time to go for mongering activities.

Looking forward to the trip, that is in the initial stages of planning.

Any help of a noob would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks and Regards.Even if suddenly 50% of all bargirls would disappear in Pattaya, there will still be more ladies can you can ever hope to make love to.

The small seasonal differences are nothing to get worried about.

The only time of year you might wish to avoid is around "Songkhran", the Thai New Year. Some girls will go to visit their family (but again, there will be more than enough still in Pattaya and Bangkok), but most that stay will just party and throw water around. That period of year will be bad for mongering, but fun for participating in the festivities.

Also, throughout the year there are various Buddhist holidays and then no alcohol can be served in the bars. Some bars will even close. But with some planning, this can be easily overcome: buy some beer the day before and stock your room's fridge and either get a freelancer from beach road or book a bargirl for LT already the day before. If her bar is closed, you will even save on the barfine!

Christian G
11-16-15, 09:30
The only time of year you might wish to avoid is around "Songkhran", the Thai New Year. Some girls will go to visit their family (but again, there will be more than enough still in Pattaya and Bangkok), but most that stay will just party and throw water around. That period of year will be bad for mongering, but fun for participating in the festivities.I agree 100% with you, Songkran is the worst time of the year for Pattaya. Been there once and never ever will go again in Pattaya for Songkran.


I am planning to go for about 1 week and wanted to cover BKK, Pattaya and maybe even Koh Samui.You want visit too many place for 1 week only. Save your time, avoid Koh Samui and enjoy BKK and PTY.

Gin And Tonic
11-16-15, 09:31
I am planning to go for about 1 week and wanted to cover BKK, Pattaya and maybe even Koh Samui.

Tentative plan is for Mid Feb.That would involve a lot of wasted travel time. Better to do it in 3 trips.

Gin And Tonic
11-16-15, 09:53
I did a currency conversion and that figure she agreed to is probably not random. 3500 is just shy of $100 at the currency market rates. For the regular guy, who doesn't get that favorable rate, that conversion would likely be over a $100 - maybe closer to 100 Euros? I just got back from Berlin, and have a good grasp on what a Russian girl gets for an hour of love. Around 100 Euros (or less) in the bordellos or as an independent. So she is wanting to be compensated on a West European pay scale. In my travels in the former Soviet States, I never had to P4 P with any Russian girls. Women in the former Soviet Union are not able to use their tw*t as a precious commodity as in other nations. And with the average monthly Russian wage down to around $500 (food taking up half of the average Russian household's income), I wouldn't imagine she would be making much in any "Russian club". That's probably why she is in Thailand.

My thoughts? When on the ocean, eat the fish. In the Mideast, go for the lamb. In Argentina eat the beef. But don't bother ordering a pierogi until you are in Eastern Europe (if you catch my drift).The "Russian Girls" on walking are not Russian but former USSR. It has been sometime since I was last in Berlin but then the quality of the true Russian chicks far surpassed what is at Galaxy.

Amit S
11-16-15, 10:31
HI,

I was just reading the report about visit during 'songkran'. I've also seen some videos of soi6-7 during sogkran on youtube. I'm planing to visit pats in the last week of March or first week of April'16 and in either case I'm leaving before April 10th. So that there won't be any problem.

Also, I am coming there with a friend who is visiting Thailand for the first time. So we are planning to go for a city and temple tour of Bangkok in one day.

Actually our departure flight we'll be at 2115 hrs from BKK. So we are planning to hire a cab / take a bus from pattaya which will take us to famous 3 temples, Royal Palace, Emerald Buddha, Vimanmek Royal Mansion (I know the list is long but certainly possible) and will leave us at BKK around 1730 hrs.

In short we need a ride for two from pattaya at 8-9 am which will show us above places and leave us at BKK by 5. 30-6 pm.

Does anyone know any such travel operator? Any idea of rental car tarrif? Preferrably honda city or corrola.

Thanks

FloridaGuy
11-16-15, 12:34
This is an old report. Around June 2015. I was active on another pattaya forum and I saw that DD was highly recommended on that forum. Taking their advice I had booked Cory and Apple in advance over the emails. David is of lot of help. Since I was reaching late in pattaya. I had booked a two hour slot at 11 pm. Compared to other places, DD prefers threesome and gives excellent services. There is no limit to number of Orgasms in the prescribed time limit. Best part about that place is focus on Hygiene. As soon as I reached, both the ladies walked me to the room and helped me undress. Cory helped me take a shower and Apple soaped me thoroughly twice. Both of them took showers and used mouthwash. I was really impressed with their details on cleanliness. The room was big and nice. It had a tv playing porno, a sex swing, and mirror on walls and ceiling. After the shower, I was lying on the bed and cory started with cat bath while apple started with BBBJ. Both of them are very well coordinated with the threesome act. I came in few minutes. It was a CIM. Now this was new. After the CIM they made me take a shower. Soaping me again. Entire process was repeated and then they started withe massage. COry was focussing on my back and Apple was giving me a rim job. After a bit of massage, action started. Apple was in WOT and Corry was playing my nipples. I finished in under ten minutes in this position. NOw I was too tired for round 3 due to travelling. But Cory took it as a challenge. Both of them started giving me HJ. Cory was playing with the balls and Apple was busy with HJ. I didn't know I could cum again so soon but due to their diligent effort, I came in few minutes. I was so impressed by their attitude. I tipped them 1 k each.

Total damage 4 k + 2 k (tips).

Time stayed - 1. 30 minutes.

Level of service - 9/10.

Value for money - 9/10.

You can google for Devil's den pattaya for pics and address.

JjBee62
11-16-15, 14:41
The only time of year you might wish to avoid is around "Songkhran", the Thai New Year. Some girls will go to visit their family (but again, there will be more than enough still in Pattaya and Bangkok), but most that stay will just party and throw water around. That period of year will be bad for mongering, but fun for participating in the festivities.
I have been hoping to plan my trip to coincide with Songkran. Arrive the day before it begins and then stay 2 weeks and celebrate my birthday.

I'm not really interested in a straight mongering vacation. I'd rather split my time between playing tourist and mongering. Songkran just looks like a fun, messy experience.

Banana Boi
11-16-15, 17:02
Even if suddenly 50% of all bargirls would disappear in Pattaya, there will still be more ladies can you can ever hope to make love to.Agree. The amount of girls here is just insane. There's not only a lot of them but they're everywhere!

Even this morning as I was heading out for lunch I noticed a hot girl picking up her ID at my hotel concierge. I asked if she was available she said not right now but gave me her number to call her when I wanted her to come back.

Mr Enternational
11-16-15, 18:24
Actually our departure flight we'll be at 2115 hrs from BKK. So we are planning to hire a cab / take a bus from pattaya which will take us to famous 3 temples, Royal Palace, Emerald Buddha, Vimanmek Royal Mansion (I know the list is long but certainly possible) and will leave us at BKK around 1730 hrs.

In short we need a ride for two from pattaya at 8-9 am which will show us above places and leave us at BKK by 5. 30-6 pm.It is easy to see Bangkok in one day. I think the tourist venues open at 10 am. The best thing to do is to take a taxi to the airport and leave your things in the luggage room. Then take a taxi to the Grand Palace. The temple of the Emerald Buddha is actually inside of that complex. When you finish there you will take another taxi to the next place on your list. Then when you finish that back to the airport. No need to keep the same taxi. Taxis are plentiful and cheap. Plus there is really no place for the taxis to wait for people.

What I really recommend is staying in Bangkok the night before your sightseeing so you will be well-rested instead of rushing trying to get out of Pattaya that morning. Also get a late check-out so you can at least shower before your flight back home. You are sure to do a lot of sweating in Bangkok.

Mr Enternational
11-16-15, 18:31
I have been hoping to plan my trip to coincide with Songkran. Arrive the day before it begins and then stay 2 weeks and celebrate my birthday.

I'm not really interested in a straight mongering vacation. I'd rather split my time between playing tourist and mongering. Songkran just looks like a fun, messy experience.It may be fun for the first 5 minutes, but after that you will surely get tired of getting drenched with ice cold water every time you walk or ride down the street. Maybe coincide your trip to get there and just do the last day of Songkran. Foreigners that are in the know try to avoid even going outside during that time, if they don't leave town altogether.

JjBee62
11-16-15, 19:05
It may be fun for the first 5 minutes, but after that you will surely get tired of getting drenched with ice cold water every time you walk or ride down the street. Maybe coincide your trip to get there and just do the last day of Songkran. Foreigners that are in the know try to avoid even going outside during that time, if they don't leave town altogether.Three days worth might be a bit too much. As always, I'll change plans 30 times before I ever board the plane and then change again after I arrive.

Wolvenvacht
11-16-15, 21:32
HI,
So we are planning to go for a city and temple tour of Bangkok in one day.

Actually our departure flight we'll be at 2115 hrs from BKK. So we are planning to hire a cab / take a bus from pattaya which will take us to famous 3 temples, Royal Palace, Emerald Buddha, Vimanmek Royal Mansion (I know the list is long but certainly possible) and will leave us at BKK around 1730 hrs.

In short we need a ride for two from pattaya at 8-9 am which will show us above places and leave us at BKK by 5. 30-6 pm.

Does anyone know any such travel operator? Any idea of rental car tarrif? Preferrably honda city or corrola.

ThanksYou can take a taxi from Pattaya to Bangkok. That takes between 1. 5 to 2 hours to get to the airport and at least 2 hours (and more if the traffic is bad) to get to the Royal Palace.

Taking a proper visit to the Royal Palace and the Temple of the Emerald Buddha will take a few hours at least.

Vimanmek Palace is also quite beautiful but you have to take a guided tour inside and there are much more nice things to see there, such as the stables of the White Elephants.

Combining the transfer from Pattaya to Bangkok, the Royal Palace / Emerald Buddha and Vimanmek Palace and then getting back in time to the airport (by that time it is rush hour in Bangkok) would be next to impossible and will stress you out and cost you a fair amount of "waiting time" for the taxi, unless you want to lug your luggage around to all these places?.

Far better indeed, as has been suggested, to arrive in Bangkok the night before. A hotel near Khao San Road would make it a lot easier to visit the places you want to see and they will keep your luggage during the day.

And hey, being in Bangkok the night before may give you enough time to visit an oily or soapy massage place!

Blanquiceleste
11-17-15, 01:03
HI,

I was just reading the report about visit during 'songkran'. I've also seen some videos of soi6-7 during sogkran on youtube. I'm planing to visit pats in the last week of March or first week of April'16 and in either case I'm leaving before April 10th. So that there won't be any problem.

Also, I am coming there with a friend who is visiting Thailand for the first time. So we are planning to go for a city and temple tour of Bangkok in one day.

Actually our departure flight we'll be at 2115 hrs from BKK. So we are planning to hire a cab / take a bus from pattaya which will take us to famous 3 temples, Royal Palace, Emerald Buddha, Vimanmek Royal Mansion (I know the list is long but certainly possible) and will leave us at BKK around 1730 hrs.

In short we need a ride for two from pattaya at 8-9 am which will show us above places and leave us at BKK by 5. 30-6 pm.

Does anyone know any such travel operator? Any idea of rental car tarrif? Preferrably honda city or corrola.

ThanksSongkran is the worst time to visit Pattaya. Most girls go home to their provinces. Also, its no fun after the first few minutes to walk around getting drenched at every turn.

To cover all the touristy places in BKK in 1 day is next to impossible. They all demand a lot of walking around and easily take upward of 2 hours per place. None of them open before 10.00 am. I presume you don't want to just "see" these places as part of a checklist. Allow time in between for food and movement from one attraction to another. All of them are large complexes and you will get tired in the tropical climate. Stay hydrated at all times.

There are several private taxis advertising on the internet for PYX-BKK rides. A ride to the airport costs THB 1000 while a ride to BKK city will cost THB 1200. A trip to BKK city and then onward to Airport with all this sightseeing thrown in will take some negotiation, but expect THB 2000. If you are staying in one of the recommended hotels, then simply asking the front desk to arrange a taxi will do the trick. They are pretty reliable. You can get a Camry or an Accord for the price I am quoting here. Alternately, if you have PM please let me know, I can send you a contact number for a service provider I have been using for several years without any complaints.

Blanquiceleste
11-17-15, 01:19
....Compared to other places, DD prefers threesome and gives excellent services.

I was so impressed by their attitude. I tipped them 1 k each.Devil's Den is an excellent choice for a threesome. In fact they only allow a threesome if you want services in-house. You made good choices. You seem to be very generous with the tip, but if they made you come thrice in 90 minutes then one could argue its money well spent.

On a separate note. Has anyone tried DD's meals on wheels service? I have been thinking about it for a few years now but never got down to booking it. It seems a bit over the top on pricing.

Mr Enternational
11-17-15, 01:29
Devil's Den is an excellent choice for a threesome. In fact they only allow a threesome if you want services in-house. You made good choices. You seem to be very generous with the tip, but if they made you come thrice in 90 minutes then one could argue its money well spent.

On a separate note. Has anyone tried DD's meals on wheels service? I have been thinking about it for a few years now but never got down to booking it. It seems a bit over the top on pricing.I have reported before that a girl who works there said they generally only do BJ in the vehicle.

Blanquiceleste
11-17-15, 01:46
I have reported before that a girl who works there said they generally only do BJ in the vehicle.Thanks Me E. That's an awful lot for a BJ. Even it was Britney Spears doing it.

I must have missed your report.

Amit S
11-17-15, 18:10
It is easy to see Bangkok in one day. I think the tourist venues open at 10 am. The best thing to do is to take a taxi to the airport and leave your things in the luggage room. Then take a taxi to the Grand Palace. The temple of the Emerald Buddha is actually inside of that complex. When you finish there you will take another taxi to the next place on your list. Then when you finish that back to the airport. No need to keep the same taxi. Taxis are plentiful and cheap. Plus there is really no place for the taxis to wait for people.

What I really recommend is staying in Bangkok the night before your sightseeing so you will be well-rested instead of rushing trying to get out of Pattaya that morning. Also get a late check-out so you can at least shower before your flight back home. You are sure to do a lot of sweating in Bangkok.Thanks Mr. Enternational. Your suggestion to take new taxi everytime looks sensible.

Thanks Blanquiceleste and Wolvenvacht for your replies.

Actually this would be my third visit to Thailand andI I've already visited three temples. But my friend is coming for the first time. So considering the available well visit The Palace first and then if time permits well decide for the rest.

Peace!

Eric Swiss
11-19-15, 04:52
I went out to Walking Street on a Saturday night. First I went to Insomnia just before midnight to get the cheap San Mig Light, but for once I did not see anything to my liking. Then Happy go-go bar. Nice atmosphere, but the talent level wasn't huge.

I decided to try Skyfall for the first time. There were some super cute girls outside. It is a pleasant club, and the staff are eager to sit you well.

There was a girl dancing close by with the cutest buttocks you've ever seen. Firm like a teenager's and well-rounded. The rest of the body was not bad either. Not an ounce of fat on her.

I offered her a lady drink, and found out her name was Rung. She said she was 23 years old, but I think she was a little bit older than that.

She asked for 3000 Baht short-time, which I negotiated down to 2500. So I barfined her and took her to Oasis short-time hotel on Soi Happy.

I don't remember much about the sex, except that it was good and went on for quite a while. The key is to set the lighting in the room to an intimate setting, which you can do very nicely at Oasis.

At the end, I gave her a tip. All in all, I would recommend her, as she was quite committed in the sack, but mostly I recommend Skyfall, which is a relatively classy place, if you can say such a thing about Pattaya, and they know how to attract real beauties.

FL Hawk
11-19-15, 11:27
Report – Day 1.

This is a continuation of my Thailand trip report. I spent the previous 3 nights in Phuket, and my reports are located in the Phuket board.

Anyway, I took a Bangkok Airways flight to UTP from HKT. The flight was uneventful, being only partially full. But of course, I sit behind a couple who recline their seats all the way and I, being tallish, am having my knees squished. Can't they tell I am in discomfort here? Oh well. After the plane landed, I was not in a huge hurry so rather than getting a taxi for the trip into town, I got on a minibus. You think I would have learned. I boarded the bus at 4:55 but we didn't depart until 5:15. They took on 3 airport workers, leaving one spare seat, but as we were about to leave, there were still 2 people who were unable to get a ride, so they took them on. In a bit of karma perhaps, the woman who was seat-squishing me was one of them, and she had to share the end of a seat with another person for about 30 minutes. Anyway, after dropping the three airport workers off, then missing the turn to my hotel on Soi 13, I was the last one off. I don't get to my hotel until nearly 6:30. Oh well.

I unpack and leave for WS at 8:30. I compare how things are to how they were last May when I was here. I noted more people, and there a number of real-girls FL on Beach Road (BR). I hopped on a baht bus (10 B) for WS. As before, tons of Chinese. At 10 PM, from the south end of WS, throngs of them, in mass, we walking in. Incredible.

I first wanted to go to Peppermint, where I had so much fun the last time. There last May, I was trying to hook up with one of the most beautiful girls I had seen (Fon, No 8), and it took me three tries to finally get her. But she was quite new to the business and was a starfish. A very expensive star fish. Anyway, in my quest for Fon, I became friends with the mamas san, Luk, and I hung with a slightly chubby, flat chested Whan, No 86. On my last visit, Luk and written all their names down on a coaster, which I kept. When I entered the club, I gave the coaster to a waiter and he took it into the back and a minute later Luk came out all smiles. She remembered me, even where we had sat down on my last night. She said neither Fon nor Whan were working that night, but they would be there Wednesday. She also informed me the Peppermint was having a party Thursday and that I was invited. I tell you, being friends with the mama san is great. She told a big-chested girl to sit down and keep me company, but I was not interested in mongering with her. Peppermint is very expensive. Actually, I was feeling very tired and I felt like going back to the hotel and sleeping. OK, first night in Pattaya and I don't do anything, but I do feel I need some rest. I am no spring chicken.

So I depart and, in walking by Lighthouse one of the outside girls rushes over to me and excitedly asks if I remember her. Ummmmm. It is Bell, a girl I talked to a lot last time. I am not even sure if I reported on her in my May report, but she is a cute and enthusiastic spinner. If I remember correctly (and without going back to read my old report), she was not a dancer nor did she do take out, but she could be bar fined and she had wanted me to BF her for a hour or two for dinner. I declined at the time, but here she was again and now she danced and offered TO. I said I was tired but inquired about the rates, and she quoted 700 BF and 2500/3000 for her. She is really cute, a spinner, tight and toned, bubbly, one of the more enthusiastic dancers there, and I give it consideration but, again, I am tired. I say that maybe Friday I will take her out.

I then leave WS and walk back to my hotel via BR. There are more FLers out than in May, but many are LBs. Still, I pass by a couple of 7's that I consider, but ultimately I go back to the hotel alone, and not too disappointed with myself for doing so. I am looking forward to a busy Wednesday.

Summary: The Lighthouse has some decent girls for 700 BF and 2500/3000 take out. The Peppermint has some super hot girls. I didn't inquire about rates, but there are not cheap. Business, the mama san said, was not great that night (Try lowering the rates!

Tomorrow I expect to do some extensive mongering.

PedroT97
11-20-15, 02:07
I believe it's the King's Birthday on Satrday 5th December but as it is s Saturday the public holiday will be Monday 7th. Do any of you more experienced travellers or expats know how it affects the bars anc clubs? I think I recall there was no alcohol or something on a previous visit. Pedro.

Dinghy
11-20-15, 13:28
You can take a taxi from Pattaya to Bangkok. That takes between 1. 5 to 2 hours to get to the airport and at least 2 hours (and more if the traffic is bad) to get to the Royal Palace.

Taking a proper visit to the Royal Palace and the Temple of the Emerald Buddha will take a few hours at least.

Vimanmek Palace is also quite beautiful but you have to take a guided tour inside and there are much more nice things to see there, such as the stables of the White Elephants.

Combining the transfer from Pattaya to Bangkok, the Royal Palace / Emerald Buddha and Vimanmek Palace and then getting back in time to the airport (by that time it is rush hour in Bangkok) would be next to impossible and will stress you out and cost you a fair amount of "waiting time" for the taxi, unless you want to lug your luggage around to all these places?.

Far better indeed, as has been suggested, to arrive in Bangkok the night before. A hotel near Khao San Road would make it a lot easier to visit the places you want to see and they will keep your luggage during the day.

And hey, being in Bangkok the night before may give you enough time to visit an oily or soapy massage place!ROYAL PALACE and emerald Buddha temple (inside the complex) CLOSES at 17:00.

FL Hawk
11-21-15, 06:22
Day 2.

I closed out yesterday's report looking forward to a busy Wednesday. That is pretty much what I got.

Even though this all happened yesterday as I write this, some of it actually seems like several days ago! Anyway, the bed I have at Sandy Springs is horrible. Lousy pillows and a hard mattress. I tossed and turned all night. I dragged out of bed, dressed and gathered together some dirty laundry that I then dropped off at a Soi 13/1 laundry place. She said it would be ready after noon the next day. I then wanted to restock my old Viagra collection. The ones I had were a good 7 years old! I can get up ok, but in the last year or two it takes constant stimulation to keep it up, and if I am not super excited, he is not always fully at attention. Older dudes will know what I mean. And I figure I can get Kamagra here for a fraction of the cost of Viagra back home. I find a place that sells 12 for 1,000 Baht. I don't know if that is good or not, but I later found they sure do work!

I then decide to go visit Soi 6. I walked up and down the street at around 1 PM and was not impressed. I then headed to Soi 3. Not impressed there either, but I decided to get a massage at the 2nd place on the left from the 2nd Road entrance. None of the girls were really all that attractive, but I chose one with a nice face who had a nice smile. Never asked her name. She suggested an oil massage for 300 Baht and we headed upstairs (a good sign). I stripped and she showered me (another good sign), then the massage started. Now, I had taken half a Kamagra to see how it worked before going in. After the flip, she spent a fair amount of time massaging my upper, inner thighs. Sure enough, the Kamagra does its thing and I get a boner without really meaning to. She laughs and offers to take care of him. No mention of extra fees, but I give her to go-ahead. After a few minutes she comments that I am taking a while (in a nicer way that this) and I replay that I need boom boom. She replies that I won't get boom boom from her. Well, that kills the mood and I soon say I am done. It takes a while for the boner to completely go away, but I shower again, dress and give her a 200 Baht tip. Not sure if that was sufficient, but she had no obvious disappointment.

After a short rest to replenish my money, I come back to Soi 6 at around 4. It is better this time. I find a cute spinner outside Foxy's Bar. The girl, Bee, had a decent face and a nice, early 20's, small chested body. Classic Issan girl I suppose. Poor English, saying she had only been there for a few weeks. Price is a 300 BF and 1000 for her. Not bad. Upstairs, she gives me a shower and in bed she starts off slow, which I like. Some FK and light touching go on for at least 10 to 15 minutes. Most girls want to get to the deed right away, but she is happy to take it easy. No BJ, but she is super tight and has to squirm a bit to get me in. Multiple positions, but I fail to release. Not her fault. I have a limited liquid supply and I want to save it. But even after I stop, we continue to hold and caress each other until my still-under-the-Kamagra erection subsides. Another shower and a 200 be tip and I leave with smile. My Pattaya mongering is getting off to pretty good start now.

Returning to the hotel around 5, I see more FLers on BR. I walk down BR, hungry, and return to the Bay Watch grill, a nice place with a view of the bay where I had breakfast. Very reasonable prices with good food, as well as a cute waitress! With my stomach full, back to the hotel for a rest. The plan is to rest then return to WS around 9 to go see my girls at the Peppermint. Well, I kept to the plan until I was just about the enter WS. I am coming in from the north on that narrow walkway to the east if the entrance and just as I am turning the corner there to enter WS a girl who is leaving gives me a big smile of presumed recognition and comes back to, grabbing my hand excitedly. Um. Who is this?? Well, turns out we had never met but she latches on to me and asks if I will take her to this place in WS where there is a really good singer. Well, sure. She is cute and bubbly, nice legs, not the greatest face but her smile is so big and her enthusiasm so great. Like the Soi 6 girl, her name was Bee (though I might have the Soi 6's girl named wrong.) I agree and we each get a drink while listening to music for maybe 45 minutes. She then wants to go for a walk and so, hand in hand, we walk down to about the Peppermint, then we turn around and she flat out asks if I want to go to my hotel now. Well, um, I wanted to see Fon at Peppermint, but the night is still early so I can do her then be back here hopefully before Fon is BFed. Well, at the hotel, she showers then waits for me. She reveals her naked body to me and it isn't too bad. She kisses and, with a recharge of half a Kamagra tablet, I easily come to attention. But she skips a BJ and soon is on top of me. After minute I am smelling an unpleasant smell. Is this her?? A little later she comments on the smell and blames it on my condom. Nope. I am getting turned off by the smell and how her once bubbly self has transformed itself to her being rather boring, uninspiring and, well, smelly. I stop and lie next to her, then she asks how long I will be in town. Umm, 3 days I say. She says "I stay with you 3 days then. " Umm, taken aback I say maybe 1. She wonders why not 3? Argh. Her English is not all that good, which frustrates things further. She watches TV for a while then says something about going to seven for food, or something. I ask if she means she is going to 7-11 for food, but I never got a clear answer that I was able to understand. But she dressed and wanted to make sure I would still be there when she returned, and she wanted to spend the next 3 days with me. I said she could spend the night, and that I would wait but she needed to hurry. Well, I really wanted to get rid of her. She was not being a GF I would want to spend my last available days to monger with. She leaves and after 75 minutes she has not returned so, with relief, decide to go back to WS. The hotel is sealed up pretty good after hours and I didn't think we would be able to get up to my room or be able to harass me should she have returned, but I paid her 1500 Baht before she left and hoped she would not return.

I returned to WS and bee lined to the Peppermint. Luk, the mama san was there and she called over Wham who was happy to see me, but Fon had just left on a LT. Dern it. But Luk called the manager of the place over to meet me. Sheesh, I feel like a VIP. I am getting top star treatment now. I asked Luk if either girl had remembered me and she said they both did. I can understand Wham remembering, but I really did not hang out much with Fon. But to summarize, I really didn't want to, but they all got me to BF Wham. She is still slightly chubby and small breasts, but she is still a sweety. BF was 800. I should have asked the girls rate, as I knew they were expensive, but I didn't, hoping Wham would let me get my on the relative cheap. Bad move on my part. Anyway, she was pretty decent in bed. She liked to kiss, gave a really nice BJ which she actually seemed to enjoy, and when she climbed on top, she arched her back as she moan in unfaked ecstasy (I think), which was almost pornstar like. I finished in missionary to her continues moans, but almost wish I had saved up. Oh well. She later said she came first. And, no, there was no stinky condom smell. We cleaned up and I gave her 2000 Baht. She nicely said that the current price for ST was 3000. Great. I should have known. I know she was telling the truth for if she lied and I mentioned it to Luk she would be in trouble. But no way was this girl worth the same rate as the others in there based on looks anyway. She really is the least physically attractive girl at Peppermint (most of the rest of really good). But whatever. She left and I never saw any signs of Bee.

Days summary: Soi 3 was not so good for me. 300 for oil massage and 200 tip for a fully dressed HJ. Soi 6 is hit or miss, but seems to have more and better girls later in the afternoon. Had a petite cutie, semi-GFE, for 300 BF and 1000 fee. Had a strange encounter with a WS FLer who picked me out of the crowd, where I gave her 1500 for a below average session, but she started off pure GFE, then wanted to spend most of my remaining time in Pattaya with. Then, from the Pepperment, 800 BF and 3000 for the girl (average ones are same as the beautiful ones for some strange reason). But 3 women, plus a rub and tug, allon my first full day on mongering. Not too bad for 7,300 Bhat inclusive of tips (exclusive of drinks).

Mr Enternational
11-21-15, 06:36
And I figure I can get Kamagra here for a fraction of the cost of Viagra back home. I find a place that sells 12 for 1,000 Baht. You should pay about 30 baht each. So for 12 you should have paid 360 baht. If you buy a box of 50 then you can get it for less.
Then, from the Pepperment, 800 BF and 3000 for the girlOh My Buddha. 3800 for ST. How much is LT?

Dinghy
11-21-15, 21:16
If you go to soi 3 on 2nd road and turn left and go 20 meters, look to the left and you will see a small pharmacy. They sell APSALIS (cialis generic. Indian) for 400 be / package of 4 pills if you buy 3 packages.

Also a good place for the generic viagra as well. They also sell the "gel" version of kamagra in various flavors in 50 pack boxes for about 1300 be total.

IllusionHeart
11-22-15, 10:45
Continued from Bangkok Thread

November 11 (Day 4: Wednesday)

I had booked cab through VR Taxi, costed me 1300 baht for pick from Hotel Mermaid to Pattaya. I was staying at Whitehouse condotel on Soi 13 for 4 nights. I had booked a Deluxe Suite room and paid approx. 3200 baht per day. I checked in around 2. 30 pm. The accomodation was very good and I had a Living area with a sofa set, Bedroom and Toilet with Bathtub and separate shower area which I always prefer at my disposal. There were two balconies but only the one attached to living room had seating arrangement. The kitchen area was very spacious and had a mini dining table with chairs and full sized refrigerator. The bed and pillows were very comfortable. Not too soft or hard, just the right feel to get me into a deep slumber. Wifi speed was amazing and no dropouts in both the rooms including bathroom. Plush accommodation with an apartment kind of feel. The room had an old style lock and key which had to be deposited at the reception every time I left room and collect when I came back. An inconvenience but also an advantage compared to the plastic swipe key system as both AC remained switched on even when I locked and left the room only to come back to a prechilled room. The reception was manned for 24 hours so I never had to wait or face any delay. All girls were compulsorily registered and their ID card was deposited to be returned when they left. I always got a call whenever the girl left the room. The hotel is in a quiet Soi hence no sound or music to disturb you during day or night. Liked the silence despite being in the heart of the city. It was a very small walk either to Beach or Second road.

I found few drawbacks though.

The towels were quite old and looked worn out. I asked for some extra towels which were provided to me without extra charge. Courtesy of a 100 baht tip to the housekeeping staff which I did even at Mermaid in BKK.

Toiletries were extremely basic. I always carry my own hence not an issue.

The rooms don't have a good view. Mine was on the 5th floor and facing the condo besides, no view at all. The best view one will be able to get will be of soi 13.

No late checkouts. If one desired to stay more for few hours than 50% of the room cost would be charged.

No breakfast was included even at this cost of the room.

No bathrobes in the room.

The room reeked of smoke. I am a smoker hence was not an issue but nonsmokers might find it inconvenient. The earlier guest seem to have blatantly ignored the no smoking in room rule.

I knew some of the above when I had booked and was ok as I preferred a bigger and plush room compared to sea view or pool view but small room.

Afternoon: Rasputin

I left for Rasputin around 4 pm. Took the baht bus from second road and was there in 10 minutes. Pattaya indeed was not very crowded and never did I once get stuck in traffic except for one time while going to walking street.

I walked in the door and a mamasan got hold of me. She took me to show her girls. The seating area was on the left of the entrance with segregation of girls according to classification. As we walked in I could see some beautiful girls and we kept walking till she stopped in front of the segment wherein maximum girls were sitting. All the girls were seated to the left. I started getting flying kisses and smiles from the girls. Some were even saying Hi, Hello, aloud signaling for me to choose them. The mamasan told me that this was the 2200 baht range. I wanted to see the entire range before I could decide and told the mamasan. She then started walking back towards the entrance and stopped just before. There were approx. 6 odd girls there and few of them were real stunners. Even better than the one I had seen at Lord. I was amazed to see such beautiful girls in Pattaya. Unfortunately the two girls I liked were not making any eye contact and seemed to avoid me. Looks like they were waiting for some East Asian dudes. I asked the mamasan if there were any more categories or girls. She said there is one more category but expensive. I asked her to show me the girls. She then called out loud and two girls walked into the seating area on the right of the entrance. She asked me if I liked them. I nodded and she then said 4000 baht. I was ok as one of them was a real stunner. I had not seen girl like that even at the most expensive range in Lords or Nataree sideline girls. She had the quintessential thai look and it just got to me. She was smiling at me and that was all I needed at that point of time to make my selection. We walked towards the reception which is at backside of the selection area. I paid 4000 baht and the girl got a key. We took the lift upstairs to 3rd floor If I remember well. We walked out and into the first room on the left of the passage. The room was twice the size of the one at Lords. It had a proper seating area and a separate area for the tub which was on an elevated platform. There was a wash basin and a urinal on the left between the bath tub area and the seating area. I remembered having peed in the excess water outlet at Lord while Ann was holding the handshower to flush it away like a magic wand. 555.

I asked her name to which she replied Oun. I had to ask her to spell it to get it right. Oun was a very stunning girl. Clean skin and body. Be sized breast. She must be around 24 I guessed. Though I am not very good at identifying age of thai girls yet. We ordered ourselves some drinks. Started chatting, usual pleasantries. I asked her about her work schedule. She started work around 4 pm and ended by 1. 30 am. I was again the first customer for her that day. Oun went and got the water flowing in tub. We chatted for some more time with me exploring if she was game after her working hours and would like to go to a disco for few drinks. Oun didn't seem interested nor did I pursue further. She got me soaped up and started the same routine like lords. I was expecting a BBBJ in the tub but it didn't happen. Oun gave me a short prostrate massage and got me relaxed and hard at the same time. We then cleaned up and I went to the bed. She followed shortly. We lied next to each other smiling. I took the lead and started kissing her. She responded. We didn't do tongue but was some good passionate kissing. Oun was stroking my shaft at the same time while I was exploring her pussy. Oun got on top of me and kissed me on the chest and got herself to my shaft. A good BBBJ with ball licking followed. I handed over the sagami to her which she slid on. She then started to slow ride me. I was getting a feeling that I might come so I stopped her and asked her to lie down. I got her into miss and started thrusting her. We were kissing at the same time and she was whispering fast. I increased my speed at the risk of coming soon as I had got very hot by then. I managed to continue for some time till she came and it sounded like a baby crying. I felt like laughing but controlled myself. Got her to change doggy but couldn't hold for long and finished within a minute. It had been very good sex. She got up and brought our drinks. We finished our drinks resting on the bed. A clean up shower and we got dressed. I gave her a 300 baht tip. We then got down and I said bye to her. As I was walking out I saw the mamasan sitting at the entrance. She asked me if everything was ok. I said yes and handed her 200 baht tip. I told her I might come back again and would like to see more girls. She told me that 7 pm was the best time to visit as all girls were on floor by then.

Overall experience 8 /10.

I cannot help but make a comparison between Lord and Rasputin after having visited both.

Girls: Both places had a good selection, atleast 2 whom I could session with. But I think Rasputin had better looking girls especially in the higher categories on the day and time I visited.

Room: Rasputin was bigger and better.

Service: Both were very good and worth the money.

Price: Rasputin maxes out at 4000 baht and Lord at 10400 baht.

I decided to walk back to Soi 13 from Rasputin. It was a long walk but the climate was very pleasant and I enjoyed. I crossed over to the beach sidewalk near Soi 7 so that I could also have a look at the girls available at the coconut bar. There was nothing that caught my eye. I came back to room and rested for some time. One of my regular L was sending me txt to visit her at her bar in Simon 2 on walking street for a drink. I thought I will go to walking street around 11 pm, meet her for some time and move onto Insomnia.

Night: Insomnia

I met my regular L at Simon bar. We had few drinks. Chatted for some time. She wanted to go with me but I refused. I told her that I had some other friends to meet and will catch up with her later on. She was upset but I managed to dodge her and move on. I reached Insomnia around 1 am. The place was crowded and it seemed like I would definitely find someone good tonight. Insomnia was a big relief. I got myself a corona and found some space to stand between the DJ area and loo exit. There were 3 girls and a guy standing beside me. The place was rocking. I decided to have a look around. I crawled and slowly moved making my way till I got to the end of the bar. Then I went back from the entrance side right upto the back of the bar. There were some amazing girls in the bar that night. Unfortunately I was not finding a place to stand anywhere near them. I was just being pushed ahead by the people behind me. The bouncers were making it tougher by asking to continuously move on. I came back to the place where I was initially standing. One of the girl standing behind me tapped me to make way for her. She seemed like a stage dancer and was so. She then went up on the stage. The other girl moved out with her guy. The third girl was left alone. I had a good look at her and she was to my liking. I got talking to her and shook our booty for few nos. I felt a good vibe with her and asked her if she wanted to go with me. She agreed. I asked her how much till next day to which she quoted 3000 baht and I agreed. Her name was Moon. We walked out of walking street and took a baht bus. Once in the room I gave her one of my Ts so that she could change from her party wear. Moon got comfortable and wanted to drink more. Luckily I had picked up a JW black bottle and decided on opening it. We chatted for some time and started getting cozy on the sofa in the living room. Alcohol is indeed a great lubricant for conversations. We were snogging and I was moving my hands all over her body. Moon sensed my mood and got up and took me for a shower. Once cleaned we jumped into bed and continued our snogging. Moon had a good be+ sized natural breasts. I was enjoying kissing her breasts and alternating between snogging and kissing her body. She turned me over and went down to give me a good BBBJ. She slipped a sagami on me and wanted me to fuck her doggy. I was more than happy. She had already got wet so it was easier for me to enter her and continue to thrust her well. She seemed to like it. We were both drunk and enjoying it. I continued for some time till I could hear her softly moan. Then she told me to stop and change to miss. I realized that she had come and I continued. She tongued me well while massaging my balls with her one hand I couldn't continue for long and finished. It was good. We rested for some time and she had already started playing with my shaft trying to get me hard. I was too tired and told her to go to sleep. We would continue in the morning. I dozed off.

The next thing I remember is her waking me up. I asked her what time it was to which she replied 11 am. We had overslept. I tried to pull her towards me but it seemed she had already dressed and had to go back home. It seemed that her daughter was not well. It sounded genuine so I let her go with a 200 baht tip. I was left alone with my morning wood. She asked me if I was going to visit Insomnia tonight. I replied I might and was not sure. She gave me a goodbye kiss and left.

Overall experience 7 /10.

IllusionHeart
11-22-15, 10:50
November 12 (Day 5: Thursday)

I walked over to Kiss in the afternoon. Like the food here. Always fresh and hot and well-priced. Came back and lazed around resting for some more time. The heat was up and I was in no mood to go out and sweat myself.

Evening: Soi 6

Red Point Bar

I went to Soi 6 around 6 pm. Walked from Second road. There were hardly men on the road. However girls were in full strength. I decided to walk the entire stretch to see it all and then come back to the bar wherein I had liked girls. I walked with a slow pace waving and smiling at the girls. Could see one odd girl in every second or third bar but not good enough to stop me in my tracks. I continued walking till the end and then turned back. Somewhere in the middle I found a girl smiling at me and was sweet looking. I went inside the bar. It was Red Point. Another girl followed me inside. I told her I wanted a different girl so she asked me to identify her. The bar is behind closed doors so I peeked out and pointed the girl which I wanted. She was brought in and seated beside me. Her name was Ae. She seemed very happy to be inside and was giggling. Usual pleasantries. Got ourselves a drink. Ae suddenly started kissing me and rubbing my tool. Ae was getting me all hot. She asked me if I wanted to go upstairs. I wanted to so I asked her about the money. She wanted 1000 baht, room was 350 baht and drinks extra. I said ok and paid for the drinks. She led me upstairs to the first floor and into the room. The room was very clean and had a bathroom inside. We sat on the bed and she was feeling me all over while I smoked. We went into the shower where she cleaned me up. Back on bed and began the foreplay. Good BBBJ and rubber on she rode me for few minutes. I got her to lie my side and fucked her slowly for few minutes. Ae was kissing and responding well. I changes to miss and finished in few minutes. Cleaned up, gave her 200 baht tip and left. Short and quick but a good pop.

Overall experience 7 /10.


Some bar in the Northern Wilderness

It was almost 8 pm and my plan was to go back to the room, rest for some time and hit Insomnia around 12 or 1 am. I had accidently walked towards the second road instead of beach road. I decided to walk some more so started walking on second road towards North. After few minutes of walking I crossed Alcazar and came across a bar on the other side of the road. There were few girls I could see so I decided to cross the road and check out. I went and sat at the bar. I was the only customer. There were approx. 5 girls in the bar. One looked extremely young and was smiling to me. She was a slim gazelle. I called her over and got her a drink. She was extremely happy. I asked her name, she replied Mon. While I started talking to Mon I figured out she could barely understand or speak English. She knew few words and asked me to speak very slowly so that she could try and understand what I was saying. She was a PYT. I was besotted by her. I also took liking to another girl and got her a drink as well. Another drink for the mamasan or bar manager. They were all happy with the drinks and I was enjoying. I thought that it would be better to barfine Mon and take with me rather than start hunt all over at night. I liked her and wanted to kiss her badly. I then asked Mon if she would be willing to come with me. She agreed. The barfine was 600 and Mon would take 3000 LT. I agreed and paid the tab. I had one more round of drinks with both the girls, mamasan excluded this time. I walked out with Mon alongwith me. We crossed over from Soi 5 to beach road took a baht bus and got back to Hotel.

We rested and tried to have some conversation. Mon also seemed to enjoy the TV and her cell phone in between. A common problem with the young girls. I got her to sit with me on the sofa as we were playing with each other. She was very ticklish and would burst into laughter whenever I tried to move my hand on her flat tummy or her shapely butt. I kissed her and she was sweet. She also kissed me back. This was good. It was already 12 am and I was feeling hungry. I told her that we should get some food and then maybe hit a disco. Mon had not been to Walking street much and was eager to go to a disco. She had gone there few months back with her friends. I told her that we will got a disco first and then have dinner. She was ok as she had eaten her meal before she came to work.

We went to Insomnia first. Got in and it was lively there. Good crowd and great EDM. Got us beers. Mon liked the music and had started moving. I joined her and we were having fun. There were some good pickings and smiles all around. I had Mon with me so couldn't do anything. I did get tempted though but decided to stick to the girl I was with. We finished our beer and I decided to go to 808. Like hiphop music as well. We walked upto the entrance. The bouncers there screen all girls ID. He checked Mon's and they started talking in thai. I couldn't understand but knew that there was some problem. I asked her what happened. She told me that the entry age to 808 was 25 years and above. She was 20 so cannot go in. I said it was alright and went on to have dinner. We ate some good thai food at Saengchan Kitchen hotel. This is on the way when we take a shortcut to second road for baht bus late in the night after 3 am. Hotel is a favourite with working girls. My regulars always brought me her for dinner after the party was over and we were headed home.

We walked upto South Pattaya road as the baht buses start plying from here only after 3 am. Mon went to take a shower. I went in after she finished. When I came out she was already under the sheets wrapped in a towel. I asked her if she needed my Tshirt as I didn't have a bathrobe in the closet. She refused. I joined her on bed. She hugged me and her tickle seem to have vanished when I started moving my hands over her body. She was moaning and moved her head towards mine I kissed her and she kissed me back. We snogged for few minutes. She was indeed sweet. She was kinda flat chested or A sized. I understood the reason why she was refusing to wear my tshirt. I told her I liked her and sucked her nipples. Seemed to be her small but effective weak spot. We continued kissing and feeling each other for few more minutes till she decided to go down on me. Moon's BBBJ was elementary. She only knew up and down at a pace. I had to hold her head and guide her to do it slow and easy. I got my sagami on and got her to lie in miss. I felt her pussy and could see that she was wet. I guided myself into her but was not able to insert completely. I am a normal size hence was wondering why it was being so hard to enter her. Without wasting I got up and brought the KY tube from the closet. Got her to apply some and then entered her slowly. She indeed was very tight. I thrusted her slowly and could see her moaning and enjoying. I gradually increased speed and she came hugging me tightly. I got her to turn over and on her knees. Applied some more KY and entered her from behind. She was very tight. I started slowly, continued for few minutes, picked rhythm and came. It was an amazing experience. Mon takes the crown of being the tightest girl I have bed till date in Thailand.

Though Mon seemed like an amateur and had lots to learn her attitude was good and she was willing to do whatever was being told. Mon told me that she had come a month back to Pattaya. She was staying with one of the girl from the bar who was from her village and a family friend. She had not been barfined much and had been primarily with East Asian customers mainly Japanese guys. We went to sleep in some time. She hugged me tightly and slept.

When I woke up Mon was in the bathroom. I waited for her to come out. I went in and got cleaned. Back on bed we were trying to have some conversation. She told me that she did not like Pattaya and might go to Bangkok. She surely would get employed by a Karaoke joint basis of her looks and body type. We got kissing and fondling each other. I had a hard on but it was not raging. She did try to do a BBBJ but was not very effective. I still got the sagami on and tried to enter her. I applied some KY as well but just was not hard enough to enter her. She got the condom off and tried to make me come by doing BBBJ. Unfortunately her skills were seriously lacking. I ended it. It was 11 am and she was in no rush to leave. Seemed like she liked my company and the room. She went to sleep for some time while I lazed around watching TV and checking for girls on wechat, unsuccessfully. Lot of LBs. Mon finally got up at 1 pm. I told her if she wanted to get some food to which she declined. She had to be back to work by 7 pm so wanted to go to her room and rest there. I paid her 3000 baht and 300 baht tip. She asked me if I was going to visit her bar tonight. I paused and told her that if I am free then I surely would. I didn't want to lock myself and make her wait for me. Bad decision. We had a good parting kiss and she went away.

Overall experience 8. 5 /10 for her sweetness and looks.

IllusionHeart
11-22-15, 10:54
November 13 (Day 6: Friday)

Evening

Soi 6: Hero bar

I hit Soi 6 again around 6 pm. As I walked towards beach road eyeing all the girls around midway one caught my fancy. She was wearing a pink and white laced dress like all others in her bar. The outfit looked super cute on her and I got drawn in. I settled on the stool in front of the bar and she was quick to join me. She had a sweet smile and took no time to get cozy with me. Drinks followed and so did the usual pleasantries. Her name was Ploy and she was across the border from Laos. This would me my first Lao girl experience and I was happy for increasing my flags. Ploy was very fast and was kissing me within minutes. She didn't seem drunk but was overjoyed to have got a customer it seemed. I went with the flow feeling her body and pussy. She was eager enough to open and show me her A sized. We spent some more time fooling around and having fun. Few other customers in the bar and they all seemed to be busy with their ladies as well. I settled tab and we went to first floor to the room. Unfortunately while the room was good but the toilet was common and outside the room. We both undressed wrapped ourselves in towels and walked across the hallway to the bathroom. Cleaned up ourselves and back in the room. I must say the room at red point were much better in comparison but I was not going to be there for more than an hour so ignored the ambience and decided to enjoy. Ploy was a good kisser. She took no time to get me hard and start with a good BBBJ. She had a slender tight body, no stretch marks. I had checked if she had any kid and she replied with a no. She had been working in Thailand from past two years and had spent good enough time to master all her skills. We started with her on top then changed to sideways, changed to missionary for few minutes and then I finished in doggy. It was a fast but very good session. Rested for few minutes then back to shower and paid her 1000 + 200 baht tip. She was happy and kissed me deeply. Felt strange that for same amount of money girl other day did not bat an eyelid.

Overall experience 7. 5 /10.

I was out on the road and walking towards Mons bar on second road. I really felt like bar fining her again. I reached her bar around 8 pm and was greeted with smiles from all ladies except Mon. She was missing. I settled down and asked for her. The mamsan told me that she had called in sick because of stomach ache. I didn't buy that story and guessed in all probability she would have been bar fined by someone before I reached. I was stupid enough not to take her digits or add her on FB. I regretted it heavily and a good lesson learnt. If in doubt always hang on to a thread which will help reconnect with the girl. Too late for me though. I stuck around tried chatting with the other girls who seemed eager to join me but I didn't feel like it. I settled my tab and went back to my room. It would be good to hit the discos later in the night I thought to myself.

Night:

Insomnia:

I walked into Insomnia around 1 am. Got my beer and was moving around. Bumped into Moon, usual hugs and small chat. She was with same two girls from before and none seem to be interesting. She told me to stand at their table as it was pretty crowded. Her stage dancer friend then asked me if I could buy her tequila shots. I couldn't say no so 2 tequila shots and 400 baht spend unnecessarily. Moon then told me that 3 of them were sisters. She was the middle one and the stage dancer was the youngest. As if it mattered to me but I went with her chat. I was not interesting in taking her that night hence decided to move on before her sister could suck me dry with tequila shots.

As I was moving in the bar I felt a tap on my shoulder. I turned around and it was my regular L. I thought she would be at her bar in Simon till 3 or 4 am. She looked upset that I had not met her or rather barfined since I had been in Pattaya. We got ourselves to the VIP section courtesy of her card. She is a regular at Insomnia and the staff also know her well. We had few beers and then I decided to take her with me. We got out but it was only 2. 15 am so I took her to 808. Good music and time well spend. It is always amazing that so many girls smile at you and are available when you already are with a girl. We spend an hour there swaying to music and drinking. Back to room and then her sad rant for another hour on the sofa, luckily for me I had whiskey and was enjoying it more over her chatter. My senses were going fuzzy. She gave me a good shoulder and back massage. Then took me to shower, cleaned every part of the body and crevice she could reach. On to bed and a good session, good BBBJ, miss and doggy. Lots of snogging. L is the odd girl who's a shower freak and jumps in at every opportunity to clean. She wanted me to take a shower again to which I refused. She cleaned me up with tissues and I was out. Next thing I remember is waking up to the sound of the knocking on door. I had forgotten to put the DND hence house keeping was eager to get in. I gave L 3000 baht and the remaining half JW bottle.

I parted with her after a sumptuous meal at Kiss. Same question whether I was going to meet her again to which I myself didn't know the answer hence looked at her like a confused soul. She just went away on a motorbike taxi.

Overall experience: Always 8.5/10 with her due to her ability to communicate and converse basis of her international travel and exposure.

IllusionHeart
11-22-15, 10:57
November 14 (Day 7: Saturday)

Evening: Soi 6

I had been lucky and enjoyed two great evenings at soi 6 and hence was eager to return on my last evening as well.

Dolls Bar:

This was the first bar I got into after chatting with a cutie sitting outside. She was happy to join me inside. They have a good setup with seating area and dance poles for each area. Buyer's remorse hit me as there were few hot ones already inside dancing in front of their customers. Nonetheless drinks were ordered. Ladyboy mamasan was quite pushy and squeezed out a drink from me. Usual pleasantries. I had the girl on my right and the mamasan on my left. I asked the girl if she would join me upstairs to which she nodded smilingly. She went to the loo. I asked the mamasan about the price. It was 500 for the room and 1000 baht for the girl. I was ok and said I would take the girl upstairs. The girl returned back and sat beside me. They both started talking in thai and were having a little argument. The mamsan than told me that the girl wanted 1500 baht. I asked her why? She had no answer and told me that I should speak with the girl and got up and left. I tried to speak and engage with the girl but she seemed adamant. If I go then I go at 1500 baht is all I could hear. I sensed that it was not going to be a good session as she seemed quite fixated on her price rather than anything else. She then got up and went up on the stage to dance. I felt no point in staying or paying 1500 for such attitude hence settled my tab and walked out.

Ruby Bar:

I walked out and was going towards second road when I saw a hottie. Amazingly slender girl with three star tattoo below her left eye and a sexy smile. I got drawn to her and started talking to her. I asked her if she would like to have a drink to which she nodded and we both moved in. As she walked in front of me I could see her superb butt. I just felt like touching it but controlled myself. We got seated, drinks were ordered. I tried to chat with the girl but she either didn't understand or was just smiling and nodding. I called the passing lady mamasan to check what the issue was. She told me that the girl didn't speak much English. I was ok but then she added that she didn't barfine as well. What a bummer I said to myself. Now we have coyotes in Soi 6 as well. First for me. I somehow finished my drink and was out without wasting any further time. I decided to hit the discos later on in the night and got back to hotel. I didn't go to Mon's bar which I should have.


Night: 808 & Insomnia

I got into 808 around 12.30 am. I had seen some really good girls the earlier night. Surprise, none of them were to be seen that night. The bar was much less crowded compared to earlier night. I thought I was early and should wait till after 1 pm. I stayed for approx. 90 minutes but there weren't any good girls. Few oldies and mature hags. Couple of girls in groups but none seem interested or were showing any signs except for partying amongst themselves. Rest all accompanied. I moved around and got to each nook and cranny of the club as the crowd was quite thin. Around 2 pm I decided to head to Insomnia.

Scene inside insomnia was the same. All regulars including Moon were missing. Her stage dancer sister was up there swaying and garnering tequila shots. I did two rounds and couldn't find anything to my taste. I had two beer and waited till 4 am but it was just not working out for me. Surprisingly it seemed like most of the girls had taken a day off on Saturday. I called it a night.

Last night spent alone in Pattaya. Strange and odd but true. Maybe the Problem of Plenty had got to me. I always have myself to blame for being too picky, combing and looking for a specific girl amongst the crowd. But I guess its ok for me.

End of a week and I was out of Pattaya next afternoon, Paid 1000 baht to VR travel guy who was on time and due to some overspeeding got me to Suvarnambhumi in an hour and half, much before my scheduled flight time. God damn that Nissan GTR which overtook him and got his balls on fire in the camry. 555.

Wolvenvacht
11-22-15, 13:13
I asked the mamasan about the price. It was 500 for the room and 1000 baht for the girl.Wow, 500 baht is already 200 baht over the usual rate and I remember a few years ago it was 1000 baht for the girl and the room.


They both started talking in thai and were having a little argument. The mamsan than told me that the girl wanted 1500 baht.
No doubt the mamasan, having seen you accepted the 500 baht prime for the room, told the girl to increase her price as well.


You have to look in the mirror: do you have "newbie" wriiten on your forehead? :)

Blanquiceleste
11-22-15, 16:47
You have to look in the mirror: do you have "newbie" wriiten on your forehead? :)More like "Good man with big heart".

Sunlover2
11-22-15, 18:32
More like "Good man with big heart".Or maybe they were hoping "Little head thinking for big head" we have all been there.

SL.

Breadman
11-22-15, 20:43
Wow, 500 baht is already 200 baht over the usual rate and I remember a few years ago it was 1000 baht for the girl and the room.
Every time I've gone with a girl on soi 6 it was 300 for the room and 1000 towards the girl. Don't think I've ever read someone only posting they paid 1000 baht for both the room and the girl.

AskeAske
11-22-15, 20:57
End of a week and I was out of Pattaya next afternoon, Paid 1000 baht to VR travel guy who was on time and due to some overspeeding got me to Suvarnambhumi in an hour and half, much before my scheduled flight time. God damn that Nissan GTR which overtook him and got his balls on fire in the camry. 555.Many thanks for a detailed and well-written report.

Member #4698
11-22-15, 20:57
It was only a couple of years ago (2013) that I remember the Soi Six price was 700 bt for the girl and 300 bt for the room. Now the price is 1000bt plus 300bt. A thirty percent increase. Many Soi Six regulars protested the rate increase at the time and vowed they would never pay it, but guess what? 1300bt is now pretty much the rate except possibly for a small number of well known ex-pats living in Pattaya.

Mr Enternational
11-22-15, 21:33
But is anyone contesting or trying to negotiate the price or are you just accepting it and moving on? I reported in July that after I tried to negotiate 600 baht, a girl in King Kong said mamasan would not let her take less than 800.

Member #4698
11-22-15, 23:29
But is anyone contesting or trying to negotiate the price or are you just accepting it and moving on? I reported in July that after I tried to negotiate 600 baht, a girl in King Kong said mamasan would not let her take less than 800.-Mr E, as a student of Economics and a punter I find the Price Elasticity of Demand for Asian Poontang very interesting. What we have all witnessed for the last 20 years is a phenomenon that no matter how high the asking price for girls goes, aggregate demand for pussy either remains the same or even increases. This is economically fucking amazing. But one thing is for sure; at some point the fundamental laws of supply and demand will kick in and increased price WILL finally have a negative impact on aggregate demand. The problem is no one can predict accurately when the breaking point will occur or how high ST rates will go before it does. I for one will not be surprised if we see 5000 bt for Go Go ST in 5 years. I know - amazing right! But in fact I was very surprised this fall when for the first time I was hit up with a 3000bt ST offer in a very popular Go Go. Here's how it happened: the girl, who I was getting along with fine, called over the mamasan to discuss the barfine and her price. I learned quickly after that to privately discuss price with the girl and to leave the mamasan out of it. But I see the future and predict that by the end of this high season Go Go ST will be moving up to 3000 bt in many popular Go Go's. That's 700bt barfine (in some Agency Go Go's as high as 1500bt) + 3000bt ST + drinks. We live in amazing times.

Breadman
11-23-15, 00:08
Should also consider the downturn in the economies and exchange rate of the major players who visit Thailand (China, Japan, Russia and the euro dropping). What effect will that have on excessive asking prices? 4000 baht is a huge price to pay when you consider the number of girls at the nightclubs who will take 2000, beer bar cuties who jump at 1500. If I really like the girl I'm willing to pay the extra on the first pop but when she comes over again after not making enough money the next night or two I cut that amount down.

Anyone know just how much cash a girl gets when you buy her a drink? Too many drinks and she's made enough cash that she doesn't have to barfine. Anyone ever just walk up to a girl, never offer a drink and just barfine her? Walk up to a soi 6 girl and say 'lets go' without any attempt to get to know her for 5 minutes?

Blanquiceleste
11-23-15, 01:22
-...as a student of Economics and a punter I find the Price Elasticity of Demand for Asian Poontang very interesting. What we have all witnessed for the last 20 years is a phenomenon that no matter how high the asking price for girls goes, aggregate demand for pussy either remains the same or even increases. This is economically fucking amazing. It is indeed amazing. Similar to Oil. Also, the world population is growing fast (although the growth rate has dropped now to 1. 13%) and scores of young men who have never experienced Thailand will keep the demand end taut. Divorce rates are up (EU at 44% Divorce: Marriage, UK at 47% and USA at 53%) which means more lonely middle aged men looking for "true love". Yep, demand is here to stay.


....The problem is no one can predict accurately when the breaking point will occur or how high ST rates will go before it does. I for one will not be surprised if we see 5000 bt for Go Go ST in 5 years. I know - amazing right! Carrying on from the above points, there is more disposable income in developing nations than ever before. Young men who cannot get laid in their own countries will dish out the asking price willingly. These men can never dream of getting laid with a sexy GoGo chick at even twice the price back home. Hell, there may be no GoGo bars; worse yet, no open P4 P.


....I was getting along with fine, called over the mamasan to discuss the barfine and her price. I learned quickly after that to privately discuss price with the girl and to leave the mamasan out of it. But I see the future and predict that by the end of this high season Go Go ST will be moving up to 3000 bt in many popular Go Go's. That's 700bt barfine (in some Agency Go Go's as high as 1500bt) + 3000bt ST + drinks. We live in amazing times.This is a disturbing trend I have observed over the last 2 seasons and I always insist on doing the negotiations directly with the girl. They have pulled the language card on me a few times before I start to reveal my Thai language capabilities. While some mamasans are really nice, most are greedy fat bitches who will rip off a regular customer without batting an eyelid. Again, possibly demand. Supply economics at play.

Blanquiceleste
11-23-15, 01:28
Anyone know just how much cash a girl gets when you buy her a drink? Too many drinks and she's made enough cash that she doesn't have to barfine. Anyone ever just walk up to a girl, never offer a drink and just barfine her? Walk up to a soi 6 girl and say 'lets go' without any attempt to get to know her for 5 minutes?I have asked this question to many girls over a period of time but never got a convincing answer. My best estimates put it around 30 - 50% of the lady drink cost. I have tried this approach too, not at Soi 6 but at some of the open bars at WS, 2nd Road & Soi 7. I ask for my drink, find a real pretty face and "I barfine you" in less than 10 minutes at the bar. Its not a big deal IMHO.

Llttf
11-23-15, 04:25
I have asked this question to many girls over a period of time but never got a convincing answer. My best estimates put it around 30 - 50% of the lady drink cost. I have tried this approach too, not at Soi 6 but at some of the open bars at WS, 2nd Road & Soi 7. I ask for my drink, find a real pretty face and "I barfine you" in less than 10 minutes at the bar. Its not a big deal IMHO.They get 50 baht from a 150 baht lady drink. Have been told this many times. Also some bars and gogos have a monthly quota system for ladydrink sales. If the individual girl falls short she is fined 50 baht per drink.

Christian G
11-23-15, 12:10
Anyone ever just walk up to a girl, never offer a drink and just barfine her? Walk up to a soi 6 girl and say 'lets go' without any attempt to get to know her for 5 minutes?I always skip drink and ladydrink in soi6, just stop outside the bar when I see a girl I like, ask some question and if her answer are right I take her upstair for ST.

IllusionHeart
11-23-15, 15:50
Wow, 500 baht is already 200 baht over the usual rate and I remember a few years ago it was 1000 baht for the girl and the room.


No doubt the mamasan, having seen you accepted the 500 baht prime for the room, told the girl to increase her price as well.


You have to look in the mirror: do you have "newbie" wriiten on your forehead? :)Wolvenvacht,

I don't think I gave any signs of being a newbie neither I am. I liked the girl, talked to her outside and then took her in for a drink. I would have given 200 baht extra for room. I generally don't negotiate on room or barfine costs and take them to be sacrosanct. This was an aberration. I knew that 1000 + 350 was pretty much the price range since last year hence aware that they were asking 200 extra and I was ok.

Issue was that the girl was asking for 50% extra. The room cost was immaterial at that point of time in my decision making process.

IllusionHeart
11-23-15, 15:54
Many thanks for a detailed and well-written report.Thanks mate. Always post with the hope that someone will benefit or avoid the mistakes I would have done on my visit. A clear one was not taking Mons no or going to her bar on the last night as well. No regrets now, plenty of fish awaiting for me in Indonesia and Philippines next month.

Amjeck
11-23-15, 16:56
Anyone ever just walk up to a girl, never offer a drink and just barfine her? Yes, I've done this many times.

Lefeu
11-23-15, 18:24
They get 50 baht from a 150 baht lady drink. Have been told this many times. Also some bars and gogos have a monthly quota system for ladydrink sales. If the individual girl falls short she is fined 50 baht per drink.I was told the same thing by many girls over the years. There were times when the frikkin mamasan would not let me take my girl too early, and the answer was always the drink quota. Some girls come to work even when they have their period, just to fulfil their drink quota. When I asked a girl what would happen if a customer wants to barfine you, she said she would dance around the question.

Pute Nut
11-24-15, 03:35
My limited knowledge on the subject tells me that Sagami 001 is available only in one size, while the 002 comes in mutiple sizes, shapes and colors. I order my stock online from a Japanese website and they take 1 week to deliver (in Singapore). I have not seen them on shelves of pharmacies or even inside sex shops. Apparently the economics of price, demand, supply does not work out for the vendor.FWIW I was told the 001 were not approved for sale in Singapore, when I explicitly asked for them there. I have found them available OTC elsewhere in Asia, though.

Henry R
11-24-15, 07:12
But what you don't realize is that when most girls come to Pattaya they start out on Soi 6. So chances are that if you meet a chick elsewhere, such as a gogo then she has already done her time in Soi 6 and learned the lay of the land enough to graduate and venture out to work other places. So actually a Soi 6 girl would more than likely have less mileage on them!I have some friends who visit Pattaya a lot. They said it's the opposite, that the girls finish at Soi 6.

Henry R
11-24-15, 07:18
Someone on this forum mentioned the Kinnaree Club in Pattaya as a good place. Can someone give details about it, such as location etc? I looked through a bunch of posts here, plus did a search on this forum, but couldn't find it. Thanks.I visited it yesterday, although I abstained. The girls are mostly attractive, 7's, some 8's. Prices are 1000 B ST, 350 B barfine.

Drinks are B60, and B120 for ladies drinks. Most of the customers seemed to be Europeans. This is a very nice, classy place. It's not near the beach though, kind of out of the way, so you may need a taxi.

Wolvenvacht
11-24-15, 07:52
Wolvenvacht,

I don't think I gave any signs of being a newbie neither I am. I liked the girl, talked to her outside and then took her in for a drink. I would have given 200 baht extra for room. I generally don't negotiate on room or barfine costs and take them to be sacrosanct. This was an aberration. I knew that 1000 + 350 was pretty much the price range since last year hence aware that they were asking 200 extra and I was ok.

Issue was that the girl was asking for 50% extra. The room cost was immaterial at that point of time in my decision making process.IllusionHeart,

I know. I was just making fun. And the fact that you did not accept her offer shows you know "the market" quite well.

Lefeu
11-24-15, 09:21
I visited it yesterday, although I abstained. The girls are mostly attractive, 7's, some 8's. Prices are 1000 B ST, 350 B barfine.

Drinks are B60, and B120 for ladies drinks. Most of the customers seemed to be Europeans. This is a very nice, classy place. It's not near the beach though, kind of out of the way, so you may need a taxi.I visit that place every time I am in Pattaya. When you say 350 bahts barfine, you mean for the room on premise. I've never taken a girl to my hotel room. I assume one can do that, but I just wanted to clarify that they have rooms on the premises. I usually go on Saturdays, when they have barbecue for lunch and they refund you the lunch money if you have a session with a girl.

Indeed, you need a taxi or a baht bus if you know your way around. The place is in Jomtien, or close to it.

Mr Enternational
11-24-15, 10:01
I have some friends who visit Pattaya a lot. They said it's the opposite, that the girls finish at Soi 6.What the what! They must not visit too often. One look around and you will know that 1, many girls on Soi 6 do not speak English well if hardly any indicating they have not been around foreigners long enough and 2, the girls on Soi 6 are not old. What I call the hidden away bars around Pattaya is where they finish. For instance, recently I fucked a 40 year old from a bar on Klang 16. She showed me this picture from when she was 28 years old new to Pattaya, and working on Soi 6.

Mr Enternational
11-24-15, 10:10
I usually go on Saturdays, when they have barbecue for lunch and they refund you the lunch money if you have a session with a girl.

Indeed, you need a taxi or a baht bus if you know your way around. The place is in Jomtien, or close to it.Kinnaree is in Pratumnak (Little Russia), which is between South Pattaya and Jomtien. The last time I was there I ate a barbecue pork sandwich that was so damn good. It filled me up. There was no way that I could take a girl after that. Next time I know to fuck first and eat later.

Blanquiceleste
11-24-15, 13:05
FWIW I was told the 001 were not approved for sale in Singapore, when I explicitly asked for them there. I have found them available OTC elsewhere in Asia, though.Thanks for the information, I will check next time I travel, which should be very soon.

I have asked explicitly for the 001 too across a range of pharmacies and even sex shops. No one ever told me about the "not approved for sale" bit. I really don't care much, as my supplies from the Japanese online retailer are fairly steady.

Pipe Layer99
11-24-15, 14:49
Every time I've gone with a girl on soi 6 it was 300 for the room and 1000 towards the girl. Don't think I've ever read someone only posting they paid 1000 baht for both the room and the girl.Only took a girl on soi 6 twice. First time was about 3 years ago and it was 1000 all in (300 room cost, 700 for the girl). The second time was early this year and it was 300 plus 1000. I also confirmed this with a guy I know who owns a bar on soi 6. So 1300 is the going rate as of late last year to early this year.

Having mentioned all of that it is also important to note that the girls part can always be negotiated. Especially if she knows you or if she likes you or if her rent is due (LOL). But most guys don't have enough time for all of that when they are visiting. Might as well just pay the increased rate and enjoy yourself.

Markie123
11-25-15, 15:04
I visited it yesterday, although I abstained. The girls are mostly attractive, 7's, some 8's. Prices are 1000 B ST, 350 B barfine.

Drinks are B60, and B120 for ladies drinks. Most of the customers seemed to be Europeans. This is a very nice, classy place. It's not near the beach though, kind of out of the way, so you may need a taxi.Heard about this place sometime ago and yesterday me and my friend went along to have look. It's about half way down Soi 5 you need to go into a smaller Soi on the right side as you go down.

We was a bit later arriving we soon had a couple of half decent ones on to us we duly obliged 350 + 1000 as they was getting to the end of their shift about 6 or 7 pm so was rushing us along usual story rooms get full.

Very professional ladies who if your not careful quickly take control and before you know it its all over done and dusted.

One very striking thing was when we left a lot young men hanging around outside obviously waiting for their beloved cash machine to finish up and divvy out the earnings which is probably 4 or 5000 a day at least.

All in all not a bad option if you compare it to your average FKK.

Henry R
11-26-15, 05:17
I visit that place every time I am in Pattaya. When you say 350 bahts barfine, you mean for the room on premise. I've never taken a girl to my hotel room. I assume one can do that, but I just wanted to clarify that they have rooms on the premises. I usually go on Saturdays, when they have barbecue for lunch and they refund you the lunch money if you have a session with a girl.

Indeed, you need a taxi or a baht bus if you know your way around. The place is in Jomtien, or close to it.Sorry, I meant one of the rooms at the Kinnaree Club is B 350. I didn't ask what the deal is for taking a girl out. Does anyone know?

Henry R
11-26-15, 05:26
What the what! They must not visit too often. One look around and you will know that 1, many girls on Soi 6 do not speak English well if hardly any indicating they have not been around foreigners long enough and 2, the girls on Soi 6 are not old. What I call the hidden away bars around Pattaya is where they finish. For instance, recently I fucked a 40 year old from a bar on Klang 16. She showed me this picture from when she was 28 years old new to Pattaya, and working on Soi 6.Actually, what you wrote makes sense. Maybe my friends are wrong. By the way, 2 Go Go Bars opened on Soi 6. Very close to each other. One is named Passions, can't remember the name of the other one, which is a few doors down. Both have good looking dancers. I took one to my hotel for LT. This is kind of surprising. Soi 6 is the last place in Pattaya where I would have expected to find all nighters. It seemed to me in the past to be just for "quickies". But I guess the go go bars there are much different than the other Soi 6 bars.

Henry R
11-26-15, 05:33
Only took a girl on soi 6 twice. First time was about 3 years ago and it was 1000 all in (300 room cost, 700 for the girl). The second time was early this year and it was 300 plus 1000. I also confirmed this with a guy I know who owns a bar on soi 6. So 1300 is the going rate as of late last year to early this year.

Having mentioned all of that it is also important to note that the girls part can always be negotiated. Especially if she knows you or if she likes you or if her rent is due (LOL). But most guys don't have enough time for all of that when they are visiting. Might as well just pay the increased rate and enjoy yourself.I'm in Pattaya now. My previous visit was in 2012. In 2012, a girl at a Soi 6 bar charged me higher than the standard rate. I assumed it's because I'm older. So the girls may have two rates, depending on their customer. The room rate stays the same.

Mr Enternational
11-26-15, 06:16
Soi 6 is the last place in Pattaya where I would have expected to find all nighters. It seemed to me in the past to be just for "quickies". But I guess the go go bars there are much different than the other Soi 6 bars.You can take a girl from any bar on Soi 6 LT. With my experience this is when it is easier to negotiate a price. I think the barfine is fixed at 500 baht before midnight but after it goes down to 300. Then you negotiate the rest with the girl. And don't be afraid to negotiate. As I reported before a girl told me to just give her whatever I wanted (which is always 1000 LT) and another guy a few months ago told a girl that he would pay the bar fine but he was not going to give her any money. That was cool with her.

Priamos
11-26-15, 06:30
You can take a girl from any bar on Soi 6 LT. With my experience this is when it is easier to negotiate a price. I think the barfine is fixed at 500 baht before midnight but after it goes down to 300. Then you negotiate the rest with the girl. And don't be afraid to negotiate. That's also my experience. I note that some posters say that many girls won't do LT, but in my view this is not correct. Having said that, the girls are not machines. A lot depends on whether they like you. If they do not they will not come on to you. If, nevertheless, you tap them on the shoulder and ask for their rates they'll do their job (otherwise they're in trouble with the mamasan) and go upstairs. But they will be unwilling to sleep in your bed, and the bar won't force them to do so. My best advice would be to just sit down in the bar and see what girls are trying to "seduce" you. If you fancy one of those, have a drink. Then negotiate. If she makes the first move there's room for plenty of negotiation.

Priamos
11-26-15, 06:50
One look around and you will know that 1, many girls on Soi 6 do not speak English well if hardly any indicating they have not been around foreigners long enough and 2, the girls on Soi 6 are not old.Yes, I agree. I have asked around one a couple of occasions to know how my various "girlfriends" had ended up on Soi 6, and it seems that a large portion have been recruited in factories in Bangkok. The usual trail is, they move from Isaan to BKK in search of work and an income, but are disappointed with the low pay, the backbreaking work and the high prices of the city. Then someone whispers in their ear that they could multiply their earnings by coming to Pattaya. - And mum and dad need never know how the money they send home was earned.

EihTooms
11-26-15, 07:19
Yes, I agree. I have asked around one a couple of occasions to know how my various "girlfriends" had ended up on Soi 6, and it seems that a large portion have been recruited in factories in Bangkok. The usual trail is, they move from Isaan to BKK in search of work and an income, but are disappointed with the low pay, the backbreaking work and the high prices of the city. Then someone whispers in their ear that they could multiply their earnings by coming to Pattaya. - And mum and dad need never know how the money they send home was earned.I would agree with your basic scenario but I believe there is one step missing in it; the discouraged former Bangkok factory girl tries her hand at earning that higher paycheck in Bangkok's P4 P scene first. When she fails to compete and make a go of it in Bangkok, that is when she moves to Pattaya to see if her lower level of skills, looks and commitment to the job might be suitable for Pattaya standards even if they are not suitable for Bangkok standards. 555. My Humble Opinion and observation of the Pattaya scene vs the Bangkok scene at least.

Priamos
11-26-15, 07:23
I would agree with your basic scenario but I believe there is one step missing in it; the discouraged former Bangkok factory girl tries her hand at earning that higher paycheck in Bangkok's P4 P scene first. When she fails to compete and make a go of it in Bangkok, that is when she moves to Pattaya to see if her lower level of skills, looks and commitment to the job might be suitable for Pattaya standards even if they are not suitable for Bangkok standards. 555. My Humble Opinion and observation of the Pattaya scene vs the Bangkok scene at least.Well, that would account for the generally poor linguistic skills in Pattaya. LOL. Bar girls in Bangkok, even the young ones, are generally much better at entertaining guests in English than their "sisters" in Pattaya.

Wolvenvacht
11-26-15, 08:18
I'm in Pattaya now. My previous visit was in 2012. In 2012, a girl at a Soi 6 bar charged me higher than the standard rate. I assumed it's because I'm older. So the girls may have two rates, depending on their customer. The room rate stays the same.Many many years ago, there was a website (sadly I lost the link) that estimated the girl's fee based upon a number of parameters (ST / LT; Soi 6/ BR / gogo / massage place; incall / outcall; services requested; . . .) and one of the parameters was indeed the age of the punter.

Christian G
11-26-15, 09:11
I think the barfine is fixed at 500 baht before midnight but after it goes down to 300.The bars don't have a fixed BF price for long time. Some bars ask for 800/1000 baht for BF a girl LT before midnight. I have a friend that pick up a lady LT in Sky Bar (800 baht BF for LT) and he also ask in Lisa Bar how much is the BF for LT and they said is 1000 baht.

I know Red Point ask for 500 baht BF if you want a ST in your hotel, I don't know how much they ask for BF longtime.

Henry R
11-26-15, 13:24
, the girls are not machines. A lot depends on whether they like you. If they do not they will not come on to you. If, nevertheless, you tap them on the shoulder and ask for their rates they'll do their job (otherwise they're in trouble with the mamasan) and go upstairs. But they will be unwilling to sleep in your bed, and the bar won't force them to do so. My best advice would be to just sit down in the bar and see what girls are trying to "seduce" you. If you fancy one of those, have a drink. Then negotiate. If she makes the first move there's room for plenty of negotiation.Excellent advice!

Amjeck
11-26-15, 13:45
Actually, what you wrote makes sense. Maybe my friends are wrong. I don't think your friends are wrong.

Mr Enternational
11-26-15, 16:22
The bars don't have a fixed BF price for long time. Some bars ask for 800/1000 baht for BF a girl LT before midnight. I have a friend that pick up a lady LT in Sky Bar (800 baht BF for LT)I am not at all too familiar with the other bars, but my buddy owns Sky Bar. I knew him before he had a bar and was coming over from Korea to monger. I was also there when he took the cash over and bought the adjoining bar. I have never heard of an 800 baht bar fine there. Could be possible though if you are taking the girl at 6 pm.

Pipe Layer99
11-26-15, 18:50
The bars don't have a fixed BF price for long time. Some bars ask for 800/1000 baht for BF a girl LT before midnight. I have a friend that pick up a lady LT in Sky Bar (800 baht BF for LT) and he also ask in Lisa Bar how much is the BF for LT and they said is 1000 baht.

I know Red Point ask for 500 baht BF if you want a ST in your hotel, I don't know how much they ask for BF longtime.That's right. Each bar can make their own price from barfining the girl to leave the bar.

To go upstairs is set at 300. To have the girl leave the bar to go to your hotel is not the same.

There were some British guys staying here 2 months ago. One night, they each brought girls back. One of the girls had a nice round ass. The next day I asked him where he found his girl. He said soi 6. What was the barfine, 800.

Pipe Layer99
11-26-15, 19:04
Sorry, I meant one of the rooms at the Kinnaree Club is B 350. I didn't ask what the deal is for taking a girl out. Does anyone know?I have a buddy here who owns a bar. He has been here for many years. He took me to Kinarree for my first time about 3 years ago. We spent a few hours there, drinking, buying girls drinks, and mamasan too. On that evening, we asked the 2 girls who were sitting with us to come back with us to his house. We told them his house is only a 2-3 minutes from the club. It was within an hour of closing time and they (the girls) wanted extra baht just for going to his place. In addition to the cost of banging them. We both looked at each other and said no that's too much. Keep in mind, the girls at Kinarree are freelance. They can come and leave as they choose. We told the girls how much we would donate and added that the place is closing soon and we can just meet in 30 minutes when the place closes. They didn't want to do it. Guess they didn't need to the money. Never mind. Move on to walking street and get another one. ;-)

Blanquiceleste
11-27-15, 01:08
....another guy a few months ago told a girl that he would pay the bar fine but he was not going to give her any money. That was cool with her.I get the idea that one can negotiate but I really don't get it when someone does not want to pay at all. Picture this. Whatever it is that you do for a living, imagine if the buyer did not want to pay for the work you did, would that be acceptable to you? "You" in this context is a generalized address and not directed at you Mr E.

The poor lass probably agreed hoping to get a decent tip at the end of the job. And I sure hope the bloke paid her a tip. Else I would wish for his nuts to shrivel up and fall off.

Banana Boi
11-27-15, 03:58
I really enjoyed kinarree place. The girls were extremely friendly and service was decent. Ended up going 3 x on my trip and would have been more if I had visited earlier in my trip. I really liked Kund and another girl who has a similar look with blonde hair. Found it a better afternoon option than soi 6.

Most girls arrive around 3 and only work til 7 so time your visits accordingly.

Taxi to and from central festival is 200 baht each way, no negotiation. I would guess you can baht bus to the bottom of the hill and negotiate a cheaper taxi fare.

Mr Enternational
11-27-15, 09:59
I get the idea that one can negotiate but I really don't get it when someone does not want to pay at all. Picture this. Whatever it is that you do for a living, imagine if the buyer did not want to pay for the work you did, would that be acceptable to you?My exact thoughts. If you want a free girl then go find a normal chick. If a chick is a Soi 6 bar girl then you obviously know why she is there. Maybe she did it because the guy was taking her out to party. You will be surprised how many Soi 6 girls have never been to Walking Street. So to her it could have been looked upon as a treat.

Henry R
11-27-15, 14:30
I don't think your friends are wrong.Could you explain why? Mr Enternational's arguments seemed to make sense. (He says girls start at Soi 6, then move up. My friends said the opposite, that girls end up at Soi 6). By the way, the names of the 2 new Go Go bars on Soi 6 are "Dolls" and "Passions". They are a few doors down from each other. The girls there dance on stage, like at Go Go bars on Walking street. Went to both. A waitress (not a go go dancer) at Dolls dances near the customers, not on stage, and gyrates like crazy. She's good looking too. Most guys are probably dying to do her. But I think she's just a tease.

Forever69
11-27-15, 21:43
I was just there, found Poy at viking bar. Very young and farm fresh looking. Cute. 500 BF ,1500 LT. No make up slightly used flip flops. Simple but very innocent looking jumper. Simple cloth bag. From Isan. Went to a few bars had a few drinks. She started at Mistys, so we went and had drinks with her friends there. So much for starting out on soi 6. Poy's service was surprisingly good, especially when considering the fact that we had a lot of drinks before.

It would not surprise me if many who start out on soi 6 end up back there later on.

Amjeck
11-28-15, 02:06
Could you explain why? Mr Enternational's arguments seemed to make sense. The original argument implied that most girls working in Pattaya start off on soi 6. This is not true. Some do start off there, however, the vast majority of the thousands of girls working in Pattaya did not enter through soi 6.

One thing is true, however, if a girl happens to start off on soi 6 and she is young, slim, pretty, and a not a mother, odds are very good she will move up into a high priced gogo.

Betong
11-28-15, 03:03
That's true, the nice young girls tend not to stick around Soi 6 for long. They trade up to a go-go or other higher-end place, or some of them find sponsors.

But Soi 6 also attracts all kinds of other girls, though usually not for too long. For example it gets quite a few older bargirls who have worked elsewhere but are now a bit past their sell-by date. There are also part-timers who just drop in when they need money. And sometimes you even get girls who have come there from the go-gos. I knew one who used to come into work at Soi 6 a couple times a week whenever she felt like it. She was hot enough that she could easily do three or four sessions by dinner time, make herself a few thousand baht, and go home. She said she preferred that to working nights at the go-go. All part of the wonderful variety of this soi.

Amjeck
11-28-15, 03:22
For example it gets quite a few older bargirls who have worked elsewhere but are now a bit past their sell-by date. I've found much more of these types and mothers working on the soi than previous years.

Henry R
11-28-15, 05:59
Relax. You can find LT pretty much in all the clubs and bars. I don't have a problem finding it and you shouldn't either.I have been finding LT at Go Go bars in Pattaya. I heard many, many years ago that few of the go go dancers in Pattaya do LT. I guess that's changed. It's not all that hard now. Actually, Baccarat in Pattaya has a menu of all their prices. It includes LT on the menu. Their price is unusually high, compared to girls at other bars. Last night I paid B3000 LT plus barfine for a girl on a Walking street go go bar. Good to know that LT is available. Prices vary a lot though, depending on the girl and the bar. But it is often available.

Betong
11-28-15, 15:35
I've found much more of these types and mothers working on the soi than previous years.Yup, sweet young pre-kid women are pretty much an endangered species on Soi 6 these days. Ah well, if you spend enough time poking around, you can usually still find something good enough. And at the price, I suppose it's hard to complain.

Pipe Layer99
11-28-15, 19:49
I have been finding LT at Go Go bars in Pattaya. I heard many, many years ago that few of the go go dancers in Pattaya do LT. I guess that's changed. It's not all that hard now. Actually, Baccarat in Pattaya has a menu of all their prices. It includes LT on the menu. Their price is unusually high, compared to girls at other bars. Last night I paid B3000 LT plus barfine for a girl on a Walking street go go bar. Good to know that LT is available. Prices vary a lot though, depending on the girl and the bar. But it is often available.Everything is available. No exceptions. If the girl doesn't want to go LT, that's a good indication that either she doesn't like the guy (and is only looking get some money) or she ha some other commitment on the side, ie. A boyfriend, baby at home, or some other crap. I would NEVER pay a high barfine for only ST. There is no value is paying an 800 baht or 1000 baht barfine and only get ST. In 4 years I probably paid less than 10 barfines. Only 3 of those were on the high end from a gogo. The rest were just 300 baht from a bar.

One other thing, forget about a 'menu' in a gogo. Each gogo has their prices for barfines, that fine. But the cost for the girl, is between the man and the girl. I don't care what they tell me in the place. I always negotiate with the girl separately. It doesn't matter if she works in a bar or a gogo. Rhetorical question. Why give the gogo 3000 baht for the girl? If you pay the barfine, the girl can leave with you. You can pay her the next day (after the morning or afternoon sex). Plus the girl now has her money to do as she pleases.

Tip. You can find the same girls walking down walking street in the evening hours and you can also find them in the clubs (no barfines). For 3000 baht you can have 2 girls from a club for all night. And 1000 baht barfine fee, that you did not give the gogo, can be used to buy drinks in the club. ;)

Wolvenvacht
11-28-15, 20:39
You can find the same girls walking down walking street in the evening hours and you can also find them in the clubs (no barfines). For 3000 baht you can have 2 girls from a club for all night. And 1000 baht barfine fee, that you did not give the gogo, can be used to buy drinks in the club. ;)Of course, the catch is that you then have to wait until 2 or 3 AM before they leave their bars or agogo-clubs. By that time I'm already long satisfied and asleep with a cute SYT in my arms. And which girls are available at that hour? Indeed, those who failed to get chosen for LT or girls who did a few ST already. Speaking of "sloppy seconds".

You can get lucky of course and your choice is certainly stilll out there ... somewhere, but I find it tedious to still hunt at that hour and spend my time in noisy disco's.

Member #4698
11-28-15, 21:37
Of course, the catch is that you then have to wait until 2 or 3 AM before they leave their clubs. You can get lucky of course and your choice is certainly stilll out there ... somewhere, but I find it tedious to still hunt at that hour and spend my time in noisy disco's.Good point, Wolvenvacht. Time is money. So I acknowledge that I usually pay the rack rate for an early (8 to midnight) affair because that is what I want. I never feel like waiting until 3 or 4 or 5 am to satisfy my desires. Forget that! But if I happen to be up and looking around at this time of the night, usually because I just arrived in town or I want another dish after my first ST has gone, then I am real glad there are options at that time in the morning. But I never delay my fun to save 1000 bht. My time is worth more than that.

Now when I was a strapping youth roaming around Central and South America at the age of 22 to 26 with minimal funds at my disposal, I used to have a great time in towns like San Jose, Cartagena, and Bogota. Back then I took a youthful pride in never paying for my poontang. I would go to my favorite bars / Go Go's around 11 pm, have a beer, and arrange to meet a girl later around the corner after closing time. My approach never failed back then and the girls never asked me for money. I think they were a little lonely and wanted to pretend that I was their gringo boyfriend. But as I got older, it took more and more effort to get the hot young ones for free, although I could still nail the older ones gratis with little effort. Ha Ha. At around the same time I started making real money in the USA and I realized it was't worth the effort anymore. That is when I began to pay the girls. Fast forward several decades; I am on the other side of 50 and I now think P4P is better not only because it is so easy and I can afford it, but also because no one is under an illusions and no one can get hurt.

On ST vs LT: I think guys should take whichever option they want, but I prefer ST for the first time that I am with a new girl. Sometimes a girl will ask me which option I want and I tell her "ST is better until we get to know each other" and that is the truth. I know from experience that if everything is good between us, I can ask the girl to stay longer and she will most likely agree to it unless she really has something else to do. I also know that I can always make arrangements to do a LT on our next get together. I can't recall more than 2 or 3 Go Go girls that did not want to do LT with me after our first night together. The benefit to me of selecting ST the first time is that I am never stuck paying for time I do not want in the event that the girl is not what I thought she was going to be and I never have to ask her to leave. To paraphrase Forrest Gump, barfining a girl is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you are going to get until you shag her. Interestingly, I think that some Go Go girls probably think the same way about us and that may be a prime reason they do not want to do LT when they first meet a customer. The moral of the story is: take it slow, treat them right and the good ones will return the favor many times over.

Wolvenvacht
11-28-15, 23:02
The moral of the story is: take it slow, treat them right and the good ones will return the favor many times over.That's the way to do it!

Pipe Layer99
11-29-15, 01:03
Of course, the catch is that you then have to wait until 2 or 3 AM before they leave their bars or agogo-clubs. By that time I'm already long satisfied and asleep with a cute SYT in my arms. And which girls are available at that hour? Indeed, those who failed to get chosen for LT or girls who did a few ST already. Speaking of "sloppy seconds".

You can get lucky of course and your choice is certainly stilll out there ... somewhere, but I find it tedious to still hunt at that hour and spend my time in noisy disco's.I prefer to go out after 11 pm. And I like the club vibe. Plus no bar fines and no lady drinks (although when I do go to a gogo, I have no problem buying a girl a drink or two and collecting a few phone numbers). So there is no catch for me. There are a ton, and I mean a ton, of girls who freelance and don't work in the gogos. Easily 200+ girls in the clubs after 11. So you have actually more choices at the club. No sloppy seconds about it because they are just getting out (like me).

The expensive ass gogo girl could have gone ST already and come back by the time you took her too. You see it all the time. Girls do plenty of ST action at the gogos and come right back. Some gogos even have ST rooms upstairs.

Blanquiceleste
11-29-15, 04:48
Excellent analysis. Very valuable advice here for the starry eyed men visiting mongering destinations. Takeaways for me are.

1. Time is the most important variable.

2. Treat people well and it will come around.


...if I happen to be up and looking around at this time of the night, usually because I just arrived in town or I want another dish after my first ST has gone, then I am real glad there are options at that time in the morning. Normally, on such occasions I would make a few booty calls and make arrangements so that I don't have to go hunting at an odd hour.


...I am on the other side of 50 and I now think P4P is better not only because it is so easy and I can afford it, but also because no one is under an illusions and no one can get hurt.I am reminded of a line from South Park. Goes like this. "That's not why you pay a prostitute. No, you don't pay her to stay, you pay her to leave afterwards" This was used in several other movies and situations and buy several other people including the infamous Charlie Sheen. But it is true.

IllusionHeart
11-29-15, 12:49
Good point, Wolvenvacht. Time is money. So I acknowledge that I usually pay the rack rate for an early (8 to midnight) affair because that is what I want. I never feel like waiting until 3 or 4 or 5 am to satisfy my desires. Forget that! But if I happen to be up and looking around at this time of the night, usually because I just arrived in town or I want another dish after my first ST has gone, then I am real glad there are options at that time in the morning. But I never delay my fun to save 1000 bht. My time is worth more than that.
I completely agree with Nattys MO on BF a girl early rather then waiting out to save 1000 baht. In PYX I have always BF a girl from a bar early in the night i.e. from 8 to 10 pm and this MO till now has proven quite successful for me.

Another experiment which I tried this time was hitting the discos for pickup which was quite late I. E after 1 am when its crowded and choices are available. Chances are you might get lucky easily and find a gem or a hottie as per your liking. For a person like me it didn't turn out well on the last night. I just couldn't find a girl I wanted and was available in the 3 to 4 hours I spent at Insomnia and 808. Am I picky, yes and extreme at times but then one bad day ruined it for me. Who would have expected girls to be thin in attendance on a Saturday night, but It did happen with me. Would I try this again, hell no unless I am willing to sleep alone.

Coming back, I would rather follow the established MO of BF a girl earlier and pay that 1000 baht extra. If she's good she stays till morning. If not then she leaves and I can take the chance of hitting out nightspots and being choosy or picky on the next one.

Pipe Layer99
11-29-15, 17:06
... I never feel like waiting until 3 or 4 or 5 am to satisfy my desires. Forget that! But if I happen to be up and looking around at this time of the night, usually because I just arrived in town or I want another dish after my first ST has gone, then I am real glad there are options at that time in the morning. But I never delay my fun to save 1000 bht. My time is worth more than that... I wasn't saying someone should wait until the late hours to find a girl. More of letting folks know that the same girls are available afterwards. No one need to delay their fun. Its all about when you want to go out and how horny you are at that time. In either case, even though I have the funds, I am not one to pay a 1000 baht barfine and a 3000 baht price tag. I like to go to club, have a few drinks, and grab one for 1500 (that's 2500 less). Plus I am having fun with the girl in the club and I get to screen her while we are drinking and hanging out. When in need for some early evening action then the bars are the perfect option. Of course it help to know which bars have the girl you like. So take note while out and about then swing by and get 'them.

Member #4698
11-29-15, 17:19
I wasn't saying someone should wait until the late hours to find a girl. More of letting folks know that the same girls are available afterwards. When in need for some early evening action then the bars are the perfect option. Of course it help to know which bars have the girl you like. So take note while out and about then swing by and get 'them.If late night works for you then great. IBar & Club Insomnia is a place I like to go when I am in the mood and still looking.

In BKK I sometimes hit Climax on Soi 11. IMHO it is not as good a pick up bar as IBar because its too dark. The last time I went to Climax I left after only one drink and without a girl. It was around 2am. I slowly walked down Soi 11 and met the owner of a massage parlor and a couple of her girls. The owner was 35, but still attractive and in pretty good shape. She tried to interest me in one of her girls, but for some reason I took a fancy to her. Long story short; I shagged the mamasan and had a good time. LOL. So yeah there are a lot of opportunities in BKK and Pattaya late at night. In fact the later it gets the crazier everything seems, but generally I prefer to hook up with my Go Go girls early and spend 4 or 5 hours with them before I let them go. I do this in BKK, Pattaya, and Manila.

In Jakarta I prefer to pick up girls in FL bars like CJ's which is similar to but much better than Spasso or Mixx in BKK. The CJ FL's prefer LT over ST so its a long rewarding night from 11pm when I walk into the bar to 9 or 10am when they leave my hotel.

Breadman
11-29-15, 18:36
I completely agree with Nattys MO on BF a girl early rather then waiting out to save 1000 baht. In PYX I have always BF a girl from a bar early in the night i.e. from 8 to 10 pm and this MO till now has proven quite successful for me.
If it is slow season I often found that barfining a girl early that she would be likely to ring you up later in the night asking if she could come back over.

Sunlover2
11-30-15, 01:41
Might be of interest to some:

http://www.inspirepattaya.com/pattaya/hooters-girls-recruitment-pageant-mixx-discotheque-sunday-6th-december-2015/

SL.

JackForJill
11-30-15, 01:47
I have heard that ladyboys give the best blow job in Thailand. Haven't had the experience.

I am planning to stay in Pataya for five days in end of Jan.

Please let me know where to find the most beautiful ladyboys.

I am an orgy player so would like to know if there are places like FKK where you can fuck in the same hall with turns.

If any senior guy is coming towards Colombo let me know. I should be able to help you out.

Cheers.

JFJ.

Tomasb
11-30-15, 01:51
Your asking this question on the wrong website. Get your flame retardant suit out.


I have heard that ladyboys give the best blow job in Thailand. Haven't had the experience.

I am planning to stay in Pataya for five days in end of Jan.

Please let me know where to find the most beautiful ladyboys.

I am an orgy player so would like to know if there are places like FKK where you can fuck in the same hall with turns.

If any senior guy is coming towards Colombo let me know. I should be able to help you out.

Cheers.

JFJ.

NuMonger
11-30-15, 06:08
I have heard that ladyboys give the best blow job in Thailand. Haven't had the experience.

I am planning to stay in Pataya for five days in end of Jan.

Please let me know where to find the most beautiful ladyboys.

I am an orgy player so would like to know if there are places like FKK where you can fuck in the same hall with turns.

If any senior guy is coming towards Colombo let me know. I should be able to help you out.

Cheers.

JFJ.I am not a ladyboy fan, but if you like living on the wild side, look for the high cheekboned, perfect boobed, beautiful LBs on beach road.

But hiding your wallet might be a good idea. And all the best.

Nearest and easiest you can get to orgy play, is at Devils den- they can satisfy your BBBJ fantasy too.

Feel like a porn star!!

NM.

Wolvenvacht
11-30-15, 08:24
( . . . deleted some LB stuff . . . )

I am an orgy player so would like to know if there are places like FKK where you can fuck in the same hall with turns.
That's not something you are likely to find in Thailand. In places like Devil's Den (or Eden Club in Bangkok) you can easily get more than one lady (it is even their standard MO) but many guys playing with many ladies in one room - indeed an orgy "Old Roman" style - is not readily available.

If you want that you will have you organise it yourself: rent a villa, hire 20 girls and invite all your friends. And be probably raided by the Police. A few years ago there was this case of a farang couple who offered "swinger" parties and was arrested for their efforts.

Uncle Volodya
11-30-15, 09:56
I have heard that ladyboys give the best blow job in Thailand. Haven't had the experience.

I am planning to stay in Pataya for five days in end of Jan.

Please let me know where to find the most beautiful ladyboys.

I am an orgy player so would like to know if there are places like FKK where you can fuck in the same hall with turns.

If any senior guy is coming towards Colombo let me know. I should be able to help you out.

Cheers.

JFJ.Discussion of LBs and TVs is not allowed on this forum, as far as I know.

If you want all the nitty gritty info I'd recommend the Pattaya Addicts forum (google it) where they allow discussion of this topic in all its gory details. 555.

Allover
11-30-15, 11:40
I have heard that ladyboys give the best blow job in Thailand. Haven't had the experience.

I am planning to stay in Pataya for five days in end of Jan.

Please let me know where to find the most beautiful ladyboys.

I am an orgy player so would like to know if there are places like FKK where you can fuck in the same hall with turns.

If any senior guy is coming towards Colombo let me know. I should be able to help you out.

Cheers.

JFJ.Everybody is being pretty civil to this point. But this could get interesting.

MahendraBahuba
11-30-15, 17:05
Hi all,

I am planning a trip to Pattaya in Feb 2016 with a friend, I did some research and narrowed down to following list:

Hotel Name Joiners Allowed Estimate Cost for 2 rooms for 5 days.

Citin Garden Resort Yes $ 300 Include Breakfast.

Bombay Magic Suites NotSure $ 240 no breakfast.

B2 South Pattaya Yes $ 240 Include Breakfast.

Super Bed Otel Yes $ 225 no breakfast.

Manita Boutique Yes $ 360 no breakfast.

Sunshine No $ 360 NO breakfast.

Golden Sea Pattaya Yes $ 330 Include Breakfast.

Need suggestion if this is OK?

JackForJill
11-30-15, 20:16
Sorry for starting a discussion on ladyboys if not allowed here.

THanks all for replies. If you are down to Colombo and a senior member I might be able to help you.

Cheers.

JFJ.

Blanquiceleste
12-01-15, 01:36
Hi all,

I am planning a trip to Pattaya in Feb 2016 with a friend, I did some research and narrowed down to following list:


Need suggestion if this is OK?A few quick pointers:

1. First, this post belongs in the hotel thread of the Pattaya board.

2. All hotels in Pattaya are girl friendly. Some may ask for a joiner fee but no hotel will refuse a guest. Take note of the age limits prescribed by different hotels. The hotels thread has all this information and more.

3. the estimated rates are all good and the hotels shortlisted appear to be 3 star. Unless you are one of those early risers avoid breakfast. Most hotels shut the breakfast buffet by 10 am and the spread is not all that attractive. That said, you are never too far away from a good eating joint in Pattaya.

4. End of the day, choose the hotel that offers best location & access with respect to the action areas. So anything on Beach Road, 2nd Road, Soi Buakhaow should be good bets. Beach road, if you like the beach, is the best bet.

TomSf
12-01-15, 09:02
Team,

Has anyone ever spent Christmas in Pattaya or new years? I am thinking about booking my first Christmas time trip. But, heard it is very busy at that time. I worry, I will not be able to get a room. I was also researching online and read girls charge an extra 500 baut for short time? I don't know if that is true. Is the whole month of January hard to get a cheap room as well? I been to Thailand many times just never on a major holiday. If Thailand is too busy at that time I was thinking Vietnam but worry the girls all go back home for a week from the hot tocs. That defeats the whole purpose of my trip.

Thanks

TellAll
12-01-15, 14:18
Team,

Has anyone ever spent Christmas in Pattaya or new years? I am thinking about booking my first Christmas time trip. But, heard it is very busy at that time. I worry, I will not be able to get a room. I was also researching online and read girls charge an extra 500 baut for short time? I don't know if that is true. Is the whole month of January hard to get a cheap room as well? I been to Thailand many times just never on a major holiday. If Thailand is too busy at that time I was thinking Vietnam but worry the girls all go back home for a week from the hot tocs. That defeats the whole purpose of my trip.

ThanksOther than the hotels charging High Season prices, I have never run into the problems you mention. This is not a Christian Country.

Crazy666
12-01-15, 14:21
Hi Everone,

I've booked my holiday for end of January visit to Pattaya. This is my 2nd visit. I would really appreciate if senior members can share some trusted girls number with me please.

Happy mongering.

Blanquiceleste
12-01-15, 15:05
Team,

Has anyone ever spent Christmas in Pattaya or new years? I am thinking about booking my first Christmas time trip. But, heard it is very busy at that time. I worry, I will not be able to get a room. I was also researching online and read girls charge an extra 500 baut for short time? I don't know if that is true. Is the whole month of January hard to get a cheap room as well? I been to Thailand many times just never on a major holiday. If Thailand is too busy at that time I was thinking Vietnam but worry the girls all go back home for a week from the hot tocs. That defeats the whole purpose of my trip.

ThanksI was in Thailand back in Dec 2013 and brought in the New Year in Pattaya. Everything gets expensive by say 20%. The price of drinks remain the same, but hotel tariff, bar fines and ST / LT charges go up. This is not because of some strategic pricing model but simply due to demand / supply. No one wants to go back to the hotel "alone" during these days.

Soi 6 charges remain the same if you want in-house services but if you want to take the girl out of the bar then the higher prices apply.

This has been my experience. However, with all the present economic challenges faced by Russia and the prevalent general security concerns in the region it may be different this year. But then Thai logic says charge more during "low season" and that is an entirely different story!

Mr Enternational
12-01-15, 16:13
Has anyone ever spent Christmas in Pattaya or new years? I am thinking about booking my first Christmas time trip. I was also researching online and read girls charge an extra 500 baut for short time?How is this possible when this is SEA and prices are negotiated? There are no set prices on women (unless you are in a soapie) that say 3000 baht and 3500 baht during the end of December. Either party starts with a price and the other party counters it until they come to a happy medium and walk off together hand in hand. I do not know of too many instances where the first price given is expected to be taken.

Gin And Tonic
12-01-15, 17:30
Team,

Has anyone ever spent Christmas in Pattaya or new years? I am thinking about booking my first Christmas time trip. But, heard it is very busy at that time. I worry, I will not be able to get a room. I was also researching online and read girls charge an extra 500 baut for short time? I don't know if that is true. Is the whole month of January hard to get a cheap room as well? I been to Thailand many times just never on a major holiday. If Thailand is too busy at that time I was thinking Vietnam but worry the girls all go back home for a week from the hot tocs. That defeats the whole purpose of my trip.

ThanksNever noticed this but the AGOGO's will up the barfine on New Years Eve.

Tiger 888
12-01-15, 17:52
I was in Thailand back in Dec 2013 and brought in the New Year in Pattaya. Everything gets expensive by say 20%. The price of drinks remain the same, but hotel tariff, bar fines and ST / LT charges go up. This is not because of some strategic pricing model but simply due to demand / supply. No one wants to go back to the hotel "alone" during these days.

Soi 6 charges remain the same if you want in-house services but if you want to take the girl out of the bar then the higher prices apply.

This has been my experience. However, with all the present economic challenges faced by Russia and the prevalent general security concerns in the region it may be different this year. But then Thai logic says charge more during "low season" and that is an entirely different story!Just stop accepting everything they ask for and they are forced to get real. As long as there are enough big swinging dicks (weekend millionaires), it is difficult.

TomSf
12-01-15, 18:47
I was in Thailand back in Dec 2013 and brought in the New Year in Pattaya. Everything gets expensive by say 20%. The price of drinks remain the same, but hotel tariff, bar fines and ST / LT charges go up. This is not because of some strategic pricing model but simply due to demand / supply. No one wants to go back to the hotel "alone" during these days.

Soi 6 charges remain the same if you want in-house services but if you want to take the girl out of the bar then the higher prices apply.

This has been my experience. However, with all the present economic challenges faced by Russia and the prevalent general security concerns in the region it may be different this year. But then Thai logic says charge more during "low season" and that is an entirely different story!Blanquiceleste,

Thank you and everyone else that responded! Flight to Bangkok are still reasonable. I am thinking about booking room before I arrive online. But, in Thailand in the busy season I wonder if they will really hold my room. I have my doubts. But, I will put a plan together.

Thanks

SmartSexy2020
12-01-15, 20:30
So was in Pattaya a few months back and was on the lookout for a CIS lady. Went to mixx and the prices quoted were insane. Women asking for 8 k and not ready to budge. Proceeded to Lima Lima and found a pretty looking 21 year old. Initially her offer was for 6 k and not refusing to budge. Chilled out for a bit near her working friends. Worked my charm and voilà she was ready for 5 k LT. Proceeded to the room. Tried to talk to her and found out she does not understand a word of English. Getting worried now how will I explain things to her. She undressed and went to the bathroom to freshen up. Came out and told me to take a shower by myself. I told her to join me which she wasn't ready initially but agreed too. Got cleaned up proceeded to action. What began from there was pure bliss. She had the perfect beach body under her long dress. She did everything in her power to please me. She started with blowjob like a pro and then came on top. And first round over. Had a blast with her and a total of 3 shots in a span of 12 hours. Putting up her pictures in the next post. Thanks. She is highly recommended.

SmartSexy2020
12-01-15, 20:33
Attaching her pictures as promised.

Soldierb11
12-01-15, 21:20
Team,

Has anyone ever spent Christmas in Pattaya or new years? I am thinking about booking my first Christmas time trip. But, heard it is very busy at that time. I worry, I will not be able to get a room. I was also researching online and read girls charge an extra 500 baut for short time? I don't know if that is true. Is the whole month of January hard to get a cheap room as well? I been to Thailand many times just never on a major holiday. If Thailand is too busy at that time I was thinking Vietnam but worry the girls all go back home for a week from the hot tocs. That defeats the whole purpose of my trip.

ThanksJust search for your hotel and book now if you are worried about room availability. After reading your post I jumped on 3 different hotel search engines and within seconds found rooms available in many hotels ranging from 5* down to 3*, prices seemed a bit higher but nothing like one sees at Carnival time in Rio. So if you want to go, takes all of a minute to book a hotel and then just go.

And as Mr. E succinctly put as always, there is no set in stone policy on charging 500 baht more. This is SEA almost everything is up for negotiation. Just the negotiation is a bit harder during Christmas season because the demand is much higher.

Blanquiceleste
12-02-15, 01:27
...As long as there are enough big swinging dicks (weekend millionaires), it is difficult.That is exactly the point I was trying to communicate. Demand Supply. There is plenty of evidence on tourism trends available.

1. Over the last 10 years the number of tourists arriving in Pattaya has more than doubled. It is pegged at around 7 mn for 2014.

2. Occupancy rates of hotels average at 54% through the year but from Nov to Feb it hovers at 72%.

3. Average Tariff for the year is around 1770 THB. From Nov to Feb it is 2427 THB.

So there ARE enough weekend millionaires in town and hence one would expect prices to spike.

Those who state they have managed to hold their price must indeed be excellent negotiators. Tips on negotiation are welcome, everyone would benefit.

LittleBigMan
12-02-15, 01:43
Never noticed this but the AGOGO's will up the barfine on New Years Eve.This practice has been going on as long as I have been living here, especially with Go Go's that have set prices in Barfines like the Happy Group which today is 800 baht all night. So on Christmas, New Years Eve and New Year Day, it will double to 1600 baht. Now with all the clubs hiring Agency girls that have two-three tier Barfines I do not know. As for the Happy Group many of the Super-Stars will be holding out for 7,000 plus for LT, if they even go LT, and if they do don't expect LT to be too long. As noted by Mr. E. Do not assume you can negotiate.

Soldierb11
12-02-15, 02:11
As noted by Mr. E. Do not assume you can negotiate.Actually Mr. E noted that you CAN negotiate most of the time and I concur.

Sure some things like bar fines or fees at a soapie are more difficult to negotiate the girls ST / LT fee is totally up to her. As an example I was at Sexy Airline in September and I asked the girl how much for ST. She said "3000". I said "baby I told you this was my first night on this trip but this is my 8th trip" I then told her "baby short time is 2000" She took her arms off me and crossed them and then stuck at her tongue at me and said "OK, I go change".

LittleBigMan
12-02-15, 06:41
Actually Mr. E noted that you CAN negotiate most of the time and I concur.

Sure some things like bar fines or fees at a soapie are more difficult to negotiate the girls ST / LT fee is totally up to her. As an example I was at Sexy Airline in September and I asked the girl how much for ST. She said "3000". I said "baby I told you this was my first night on this trip but this is my 8th trip" I then told her "baby short time is 2000" She took her arms off me and crossed them and then stuck at her tongue at me and said "OK, I go change".Thanks for bringing that to my attention, I agree with you, I should have put a comma or explanation point after assume, that one can and should negotiate most of the time. I find it virtually impossible to negotiate at a Soapy the prices seem to be set. But if I like a girl and get to know her I usually work on a number outside when she isn't working. Also, from my experience when I get a number I do not like, rarely if ever do I let her know that I have been here so and so times. Doing that usually ruins the mood or feeling I start to develop for the girl and once she throws out a number that I do not like she accepting less I feel I'm going to get less. Usually I let them know one way or another from the beginning I know the score so if the topic of BF comes up it is usually a acceptable rate for me.

Wolvenvacht
12-02-15, 08:22
Blanquiceleste,

Thank you and everyone else that responded! Flight to Bangkok are still reasonable. I am thinking about booking room before I arrive online. But, in Thailand in the busy season I wonder if they will really hold my room. I have my doubts. But, I will put a plan together.

ThanksContrary to many beliefs, the Thai are not out to cheat you.

I have never had a problem with a hotel booking in Thailand, be it price or availability, even on days I arrived quite late at the hotel.

And if you go through one of the reputable hotel sites, such as booking.com I see no reason why it should go wrong at all. They have excellent customer care.

MahendraBahuba
12-02-15, 09:36
Thanks for your inputs.


A few quick pointers:

SNIP.

TellAll
12-02-15, 12:59
That is exactly the point I was trying to communicate. Demand Supply. There is plenty of evidence on tourism trends available.

1. Over the last 10 years the number of tourists arriving in Pattaya has more than doubled. It is pegged at around 7 mn for 2014.

2. Occupancy rates of hotels average at 54% through the year but from Nov to Feb it hovers at 72%.

3. Average Tariff for the year is around 1770 THB. From Nov to Feb it is 2427 THB.

So there ARE enough weekend millionaires in town and hence one would expect prices to spike.

Those who state they have managed to hold their price must indeed be excellent negotiators. Tips on negotiation are welcome, everyone would benefit.I guess it is different for me because I live here. Even when I was visiting I never experienced any up charge except for hotels during high season. I could always find a guest house with no increase though. I don't much care for the go go's and I don't have a problem walking away when the deal is not right. I never needed to pull the finest in Pattaya, just wanted excellent service.

I guess if you go to the go go's where they already charge a premium, you would be expected to pay more.

Breadman
12-02-15, 17:36
1. Over the last 10 years the number of tourists arriving in Pattaya has more than doubled. It is pegged at around 7 mn for 2014.
Its hard to peg how many tourists are actually buying flesh and not just on a tour package or partying their way thru Asia.

Pussylicker2
12-02-15, 20:23
For a trip to Thailand? I'd like to visit Pattaya for a couple of weeks or so.

LittleBigMan
12-03-15, 05:42
For a trip to Thailand? I'd like to visit Pattaya for a couple of weeks or so.Exactly what is your need for a travel agent?

How14
12-03-15, 06:12
Sorry, I meant one of the rooms at the Kinnaree Club is B 350. I didn't ask what the deal is for taking a girl out. Does anyone know?If you take a girl out of Kinnaree, its the same 350, you have to remember the girls in there are independent, work when they want, days off when they want, the bar get the barfine, I have taken several girls from there as I live in that area, and its always been 350.

How14
12-03-15, 06:15
Actually, what you wrote makes sense. Maybe my friends are wrong. By the way, 2 Go Go Bars opened on Soi 6. Very close to each other. One is named Passions, can't remember the name of the other one, which is a few doors down. Both have good looking dancers. I took one to my hotel for LT. This is kind of surprising. Soi 6 is the last place in Pattaya where I would have expected to find all nighters. It seemed to me in the past to be just for "quickies". But I guess the go go bars there are much different than the other Soi 6 bars.Passion club has not just opened, its been open for years. And yes you can barfine them for takeout for 500.

How14
12-03-15, 06:20
Yes, I agree. I have asked around one a couple of occasions to know how my various "girlfriends" had ended up on Soi 6, and it seems that a large portion have been recruited in factories in Bangkok. The usual trail is, they move from Isaan to BKK in search of work and an income, but are disappointed with the low pay, the backbreaking work and the high prices of the city. Then someone whispers in their ear that they could multiply their earnings by coming to Pattaya. - And mum and dad need never know how the money they send home was earned.Don't kid yourself or anyone on here that "mom and dad" don't know where there daughters are working, most of these girls are forced out of there villages when they are 16/17 to get out on there backs and earn a living, that's total naivety if you think mom and dad don't know. They have to earn, simple as that. Sex to a Thai is like turning over in bed, its nothing. Bet your life "mom" mainly is the one who kicks them out the nest to get out and earn for the family.

Wolvenvacht
12-03-15, 07:59
For a trip to Thailand? I'd like to visit Pattaya for a couple of weeks or so.Just book a flight to Bangkok directly from the airline's website and book a hotel through one of the usual hotel booking sites (agoda, booking, . . .).

For suggestions of which hotels to book, read the Pattaya Hotel thread.

We have just saved you enough money to hire a Beach Road Beauty for a few ST romps.

Mogwai
12-03-15, 09:12
Just book a flight to Bangkok directly from the airline's website....From the airline's website? That is usually quite expensive.

Pussylicker2, just google "cheap flights" (in your own language, if your language is not English) or something like that to find cheap, local on line ticket sellers.

TellAll
12-03-15, 09:34
Just book a flight to Bangkok directly from the airline's website and book a hotel through one of the usual hotel booking sites (agoda, booking, . . .).

For suggestions of which hotels to book, read the Pattaya Hotel thread.

We have just saved you enough money to hire a Beach Road Beauty for a few ST romps.Hire a beach road beauty and buy a membership to the board since he wants the quick answers without RTFF.

You guys can get his hotel booked and get his flight taken care of. I volunteer to fuck his women for him.

We are doing everything for him aren't we? LOL.

Dinghy
12-03-15, 15:34
From the airline's website? That is usually quite expensive.

Pussylicker2, just google "cheap flights" (in your own language, if your language is not English) or something like that to find cheap, local on line ticket sellers.kayak.com - virtually all of the airline and consolidator sites.

Pipe Layer99
12-03-15, 16:09
... You guys can get his hotel booked and get his flight taken care of. I volunteer to fuck his women for him.....Hey Tellall, we can both fuck the women and take notes. Then when the guy comes, he can buy us beers, then we will tell him which women are good in bed. ;)

RockHound74
12-03-15, 17:32
This report is of my days in Pattaya for a trip a few weeks ago. This past trip was split between BKK and Pattaya. . the first 4 days are posted in the BKK forum.

Day 4.

Wake up and pack for Pattaya. Told Nat, my Thai GF, I was going to Singapore on business so that wing and I could get away! We catch Tann's Taxi service to the Penthouse hotel in Pattaya not far from walking street. Wingman and I are really wondering about this place from the pictures but it is a party room. Sex Swings, Jacuzzi tub, mirrors all over the place and dancing poles. We talk about our experiences from BKK earlier on the ride down. So far not quite what we had hoped but OK. We had hoped to get my Nat and his girl Lee together but alas not to happen.

We arrive at 2 pm to check in to a very gaudy hotel. Looks like an Indian decorator had a wet dream and then doubled down. Shit all over the place, no symmetry, penis statues, naked lady statues and that was just the lobby. We get to our room, the 2 bed Siam Deluxe "suite". Same as the lobby shit all over. Masks on the walls, ceiling and he oddest layout imaginable. No privacy. The bath was open for all to see. If you dropped a dookie everyone would see, hear and smell. So wing and I decided at that time. #1 OK in the room but #2 in the lobby bathroom. We start to unpack in this place of party decadence and we still think WTF are we doing here. But it is an experience we want to try out so we stay. For now. We go walking and get some supply's for the room and a foot massage. We have dates set up with a few girls that we have met before. Nam and May. They work at Angel Witch and we thought "let's get them into the party room and see what happens". SO we did. At 7:30 ish we head to walking street. Stop at Frog bar and have a few drinks and let the ugly girls flirt with us. Went to Angel Witch around 8:30 and saw the whole gang from our party earlier in the year – Noki, Nam, May and a few others I cannot remember names. Noki was still the life of the party and wanted to come back with us. Wing and I just decide to give her 1000 baht for her time and help getting some things set up for us. We buy them all drinks and then we bar fine May and Nam.

Back at the Penthouse- We arrive and the girls were a little taken aback by the place and the look but was OK. We decided to play strip war and drink to get them ready for action. After about 1. 5 hours of that and them starting to give us signs that they were ready we retire to the main bed in the "living" area of the room. We are all naked by this time thanks to the game and the girls seemed horny due to drinking I am certain. Wingman and I pull out our Brookstone back massager and the attachments. Time for some orgasm races! Winner, who could hold out the longest, got 1000 baht.

Objective – Wing and I will insert the massager with attachment into each girl and try to make them cum. The first girls to cum loses but in reality everyone wins. Pop in the massager and the girls start to squirm. Nam is the first to let go after I slowly pumped up the vibrations every 30 second or so. She finished in about 3. 5 minutes. Pretty quick. May was not far behind.

After that Nam just wanted me to fuck her brains out. So we hit my "bedroom" on the opposite side of the suite with a curtain divider. Not much of a separation. She lays on the bed and immediately starts to kiss and grab mini me for stroking. I enter her MISH and just pound. She is a moaner but just when the stokes are deep and long. She gushes a few times more and then I pop and creampie her. Oops got carried away, drinking and no condom.

After that she and I shower and we could still hear wingman pounding May! Nice! One good thing about this room was porn on the TV and mirrors everywhere. I could see them having a good time. They finish not long after. The girls then spring a surprise on us. They have a birthday party to attend at 12 midnight. SURE. I do not fight it and I pay Nam the agreed 4000 (we gave them both additional since they were good sports) and they are on their way. Wing and I decide to head out for more pussy. We start to walk forever trying to find the massage places from our last trip. But no luck. I needed my notes and Google maps to really pinpoint it. So we head back to walking street and hit Windmill! Interesting place. Walk in and see guys / patrons literally licking girls pussies and fingering them on stage! My kind of place. The action was good the talent was lacking so we leave.

Next we popped our heads into a few other establishments but nothing either wanted. We stop at Alcatraz and Wing sees a coyotes dancer on stage and says I want that. So he signals and she comes over. He gets her a drink and finds out that she does not get bar fines! WTF. Shit. During this whole time he was negotiating, or so I thought, I was approached by a cute girl named Nok. She was kind of drunk and was all over me. Grabbing mini me, acting like she was going to suck me in the club. Etc. I said "I have a winner" paid ST – 3000 total with barfine. Wing leaves after his bitchy coyote goes to the "bathroom". I signaled with my fingers and nose that she was stuck up and she got really pissed at me before she walked away. Well **** what the fuck do you peddle for a living. . you flaunt it and then no touchy? WTF.

We hit another Go-Go I cannot remember and Wing finds a girl, <insert name here LOL . Cute girl. We all head beck for a night cap and fuck. We drink some and then we hit the bed room and I start to get her primed. She lays me on my back and just starts to fuck the hell out of me. At first she was very wet and then it goes dry. It is dark but grab a condom and move in then I start to see the tell tale sign of a yeast infection! NOOOOOOO. I immediate pull out and tell her it is OK I want to finish in the shower. So we go there to wash up. I start to wash and wash and wash. She does as well. You have to understand the shower / toilet to appreciate this next bit. She now is clean and I am clean. She sits on the toilet, which is in the shower, and starts a really good BBBJ. After about 3 minutes I pop in her mouth. She spits and I wash and turn off the water. We go back to my bed and we could still hear Wing and his girls just pounding away. Wing invites me over to view his girl being bent over! Nice sight to see.! I should have kicked him off and started fucking her. 555.

While that was going on a walk back and lay back down and Nok starts to stoke me more. I let her finish me again BBBJCIM. This time she swallowed. So she did salvage a bad situation. Wing finishes and we both say good bye to the girls and lay down at 4 am.

Day 5.

Wing and I sleep in to 9 ish and he starts to work on a plan to get Nok, his Nok, to come to Pattaya to see if he can have a run at fucking her again. So that would make me on my own for the last 2 days of the trip.

I, at the time, was having my issues with Nat since she decided it was a good idea to lie to me about a guy she met in Turkey that was in BKK and sent her his hotel information via text one of the nights I was with her. In BKK right before I left her phone buzzed on the night stand, I thought it was mine and picked it up. Say a message from "Geray" I asked her about it and she said "nothing to worry about I not like him". SURE. I checked FB today and this dude posted a picture oh him and Nat at terminal 21 having lunch / dinner after she told me she was just staying in. I texted her the picture and said "you lie and BS" She immediately said nothing happened. Blah. Blah. I would have been OK if she just said to me that "while you in Thailand we have a good time but when not I see other men. " I would have accepted that and moved on but she lied and was caught. When you are caught you need to apologize and move on.

So he makes plans and gets a new hotel for him and his girl, Nok.

After having breakfast we decide to walk around a bit and get a massage! We finally find the massage places from before and Wing gets "Bin" for a massage. My girl, from a previous trip, that looked like Vanessa Marcil there immediately walked up to wingman and ignored me. Bad move baby. That made me just move on. She did not try to sell me on a massage and once wing said he was taking Bin she just sat there looking at her phone. So I head back to the room and shower and chill for a bit. After Wing was done he told me Bin was a performer! Nice. !

Next we walk up to a burger joint a few sois away from the hotel. More that a few I guess. We get 2 burgers and drinks. Then a storm hits. So we chill and chat a bit. Wing has a great idea. So we act on it. He spots and foot massage place and we wait out the storm there and get a 150 baht 60 minute manage. Fucking $4. 50 massage for an hour! God I love Thailand. After that Wing calls Nam and May and take them up on their offer the previous night to go again for the night. We go back to the room and intend on sleeping. I decide that I did not want to sleep in the room for the next 2 nights as well since the shower / bath leaves a lot to be desired. So I hop on Agoda and book a hotel down the street – LK Empress on Beach road. Nice place and I start to think that I might want to forgive Nat, my Thai GF, after the 1 full day of pleading and begging from her that she did not sleep with Geray from Turkey. Hmmm. She goes to Turkey, friends him on FB, says she met him in a bar, then 2 weeks later he is on his way to BKK and texts her is hotel info with "Good Night Sweet Dreams Honey<kisses " what am I supposed to think. So if she does come to see me I would rather NOT be at this hotel. And off to sleep I go.

Wing and I wake at 8 pm for a 9 pm meeting with Nam and May. Time to hit some go gos and find 2 more girls for the party room. Final night for us both really without girlfriends. We all meet and hit Skyfall and Wing and May pick "Goi", I think name is right for ST. Cute face and nice body. My girl, Nam, did not see anything that she wanted from this GoGo. So we move on to a hole in the wall go-go. I cannot remember the name but it was not big but had a few lookers. Nam started to look around but never seemed to pull the trigger until I saw a really cute spinner, Yum. She was yummy looking and looked young. She had a great smile. We BF her and we all go back to the party suite and start the festivities.

My favorite drinking game Strip War was going well until the 2 short time girls started to get antsy. Goi kept signaling to wingman that he needed to take her as she was horny after drinking. So he grabs her and hits my bed and fucks her for 30 minutes or so. My girl, Yum, is looking at me wondering when we are going to finish the short time. So I said after wing man is done then we go. So after he is done and finished. Yum and I go into my room. She says "I not good at Boom Boom" I laugh and think nothing of it. It did turn out that she was very in experienced and probably very young. She had only been go-go-ing for 2 weeks. SHIT a newbie!. Oh well. She could not have been more than 5'3" and 90 lbs soaking wet. A true spinner with some cute little hips. She just lays back and I start to lick her beautiful tightpussy and no movement or pleasure seemed to be coming from her. Just a starfish. FUCK. Another one! So I grab a condom after having her stoke me for a few. Not a lips kisser, no BJ, no emotion just opened the legs and looked away during the session. Ok she was right not good for boom boom. I went for a good 15 minutes due to condom and emotionless girl. Advice to women – you want a guy to cum. Kiss them! I finally pop in the cover after telling her to look me in the eyes. And she goes to the shower. Such and newbie. Good luck to her.

The rest of the night was similar to the night before. Got out some of wingman's sex toys and tried them on May and Nam. We all got into the Jacuzzi bath and "cleaned" up. The girls then jumped onto the main bed and we start with a pussy pump with the vibrator on the outside. Nam liked that and then we cleaned it and May tried it. Same result. We then have them race again with the massager attachment. Same result in a huge finish. Nam wants me to go into my bedroom again so I oblige and we fuck for a while. I asked her for a BJ and she said that she does not do that. WTF. So that set the mood some and I just banged the shit out of her for 30 minutes. I was a sweaty heap! I could hear wingman just fucking the hell out of May in multiple ways. Finally her drunken state caught up to her and she started to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) Wingman off by requesting a new condom like 3 times after she though he had not changed one or was confused. So it was time to cut her off. Then Nam says "Oh I have class at 6 am and I have to go" . Nam insisted that she wanted to see me the following night and I said "Sorry baby I think I am busy with friends" I said call me. That one will get ignored. So now its 3:30 am again and Wing and I have nobody for a morning quickie. Oh well. Those girls just lost revenue.

Day 6.

I wake and call Nat. We talk about life and her lie. She is very sorry and I had never heard her cry but I think she was choking back tears. She is a tough girl and a spoiled girl so this was new for me. I said do you want to come to Pattaya to see me? Tell her I was finished with business in Singapore. She jumped at the chance and she said she would grab a taxi in the afternoon. Wingman and I pack up our shit and move to our new hotel but keep the other for a possible party room. He was going to have his girl, Nok, join him for his last try at bedding her for the next 2 days. A long shot but I wished him well. I wanted to see Nat since she was my Kryptonite and no matter what I did not say I was over her, I could not help but want to see her again. I am not like this at all but she has my number. And I do not know how or why.

So I wait most of the morning and afternoon for her to arrive in Pattaya. She shows up at 3 pm –ish with just a bag. I greet her with a hug and we head to the room to chat for a while. We start to talk again about Geray and why this was bothersome for me. She did genuinely seem to want this to pass behind us and from what I could tell she did not sleep with him. I could tell she was lying about something's but it seemed when she talked about sleeping with him that was the truth. She then gets a call on her cell. It was her friend that drove her down checking to make sure she was OK. Come to find out, she only packed lightly because she thought that we were just going to fight and that she would have to go home. After she realized that I was going to forgive her and be a friend no matter if we were lovers or not then she relaxed. She told him that all was good and to go home. So we sat in my room and talk about what I expected and wanted from now on. I would not pry into her life and look at FB. Etc. It was now all on her. If she did something wrong it was on her and on her conscience. Not that I really think a Thai girl had one but the more I peeled the onion back I found that Nat did not have many "boyfriends". She seemed to be very picky and I started to confirm that later with a few people that she knew in Pattaya. Being the notorious party girl that she was she knew a few managers and bar / gogo owners. That night we would visit a few.

First we hug and kiss some after getting comfortable again. She is my kryptonite. I cannot help just being happy being with her. We decide after a few hours of hugging and kissing. Mostly hugging since kissing revv-ed her up something fierce. . we decided to rest some and shower before heading out. First stop was the frog bar where we both drank 3 beers and chatted for quite sometime. She leaned into me the whole time with her toes and legs pointed my way. That boys is a sign that a girl is into you. If she was the typical cold hearted bar girl she would have been over selling it to get what she wanted and all over me. If she was just there to extract what she wanted (a new iPhone) then she would not have been doing those things. They are subconscious.

After we go to a go-go. Here she meets and old friend and bar owner. I cannot remember his name but he was a crazy guy that had done a ton of Coke in his day. He fucked every girl that worked for him and knew Nat from her coming in to party with some of her girlfriends. He and I struck up some conversation and landed on him telling me that I was a lucky man for landing her considering her past with girls. Nat liked girls but later found that men satisfy in ways that a girl could not. We drank for free there about half the time. Stayed and had 4 beers each and Nat had a shot or 2. We then leave and head to "What's up" go-go where she knew the tomboy / gay manager. I think she had a casual relationship with Guiol, the female manager. We got more drinks comp-ed and paid for some as well. More beers and whiskey for Nat. Now I am starting to see the crazy Nat when she gets too drunk so we decide to call it an evening and walk back to the hotel. She was quite drunk but did manage to walk back with my help. After 11 beers I was buzzing hard as well but I never have an issue keeping my wits.

We get back and Nat just strips and lays on the bed naked with her ass in the air and ready for me. I had wanted to fuck her since she walked through my hotel door.

So what choice did I have. I fucked her that way 3 times while she was basically passed out. She did know what was going on since she kept backing into me and moaning. I told her I was going to cum and she did say "oh yes baby " in a very high pitched voice. She was so hot laying there it did not take me long to recover and have 2 more goes at creampies. If she was not just getting off her period or on those stupid stop period pills. She would have been pregnant after this week. I probably filled her 10-12 times over the past 4-5 days with her.

During this time my wingman was out with his girl, Nok, and texted me that the got a kiss and said it was from an angel right after my final creampie session with Nat. I then sent him a pic of my cream oozing from Nats pussy and he responds "FU".

He was having a good night with Nok and did get her back but she was too drunk to do anything with apparently. He could have taken her but was a gentleman and did not. I however was not and my girl was asking me to fuck her the whole way back to the hotel. So I obliged.

Day 7.

Nat and I wake up and we fuck one more time for good measure. She jumps on top for 2 great orgasms and then wants me to plow her MISH and load her up. SO I do.

We shower and relax and she is not feeling well after showering. The hang over and those stupid stop the period pills I think started to take their toll. We both go get some food at the breakfast buffet, meet wingman downstairs to chat and head back to relax at the room. Nat later wants go buy a dress and go to the salon to get ready for Halloween night. So she kisses me and is on her way.

I call wingman and see if he wants to meet for a foot massage so we can chat some. We find a foot massage place that was close and where wingman and Nok got full body massages done the previous day. The massage was so-so by thai standards. God do I wish that I could get a full hour $6 foot massage in the US everyday! I would be such a relaxed dude. Wing tells me about his night and how it went. He was so close to the promised land but wanted her to be awake during the process. Apparently Nok got so drunk that she passed out in him bed and did not go back to her room. He did not hit it! Now that is will power! He was going to try again tonight but get her to hold back on the alcohol. He did get to 3rd base while she was awake but did not get that home run. I told him that he was WAY more of a gentleman that I would have been given the history that they had and how she kept keeping the door open. But he had his reasons. I however was in Thailand to fuck and take no prisoners. I saw the shot. There was not danger. So I took it.

He then did tell me that the frustration bled over and he went back to meet "Bin" at the massage place that was an awesome fuck apparently. He said that he took her to the party room and was going to have fun with her there and found out that she had no ID! So the Penthouse staff said "Sorry, no ID no entry". She felt bad but they went back to the massage place and got a room there where he banged the hell out of her in frustration from the night before. So at least he had that.

We then leave the massage place and wish each other luck with the nightly activities. Nat was at the room when I got back and had a dress but still said that she was not feeling well. I said "let's rest baby" we have plenty of time to get ready. We slept from 3 pm – 8 pm on and off while she played with her new phone. I was apparently snoring. So it was hard for her to sleep. She did not inform me of this until the next day. At 8 pm she said she still was not feeling well and asked if we could stay in. Sure. So the rest of the night was pretty much a wash.

I was in and out all night long until around 6 am where I woke to a raging hard on. I snuggle up to her and she just grabs my cock and lets me enter her spooning / side lazy doggie. This is my favorite morning position. We fuck for a good 10 minutes as I wanted to just give her the ride of her life. She has me stop mid session 4 times while she had orgasms. Finally on the 5th orgasm I ram her balls deep and unload deep inside her as she convulses multiple times as I fill her up. I lie there in a heap and kiss her neck as she giggles and squirms. We shower and I play around and want another session but she kept saying "No baby, I am too sensitive". She was in her robe in the bathroom bending over doing some make up when I just walked in, lifted the robe and started to rub her pussy. She just dropped the robe and turned and kissed me and grabbed my cock and had me enter her standing up. Needless to say that sight was probably one of the greatest things that I have ever seen. She jumps up on the counter and I plow her again. She said "cum in me baby!" so I did after only a few short minutes. After that I was so spent that I could barely walk. We both hop in the shower and get ready to hit breakfast.

Wingman was at breakfast and we chatted about his last night. Another swing and a miss for him but he was happy. As I said "Better man that I".

The rest of the day was taxi ride to the airport, lunch and then meeting wingman at the airport gate to leave Thailand.

All in all. To the trip I was expecting but it was OK. I was really wanting more variety and in a way wished that I would have just not seen Nat in the beginning and just made it a true mongering trip. Although after reflecting on the trip a bit, I can say that I probably had the greatest sex of my life on this trip. I think that was my take away. Nat is my Kryptonite because she knows how to please me and I her. That is why I cannot get enough of her.

Stay safe and rock on.

Rockhound.