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kayak.com - virtually all of the airline and consolidator sites.Try the Skyscanner App. Seems to routinely find flights for about 20% less than Kayak. The Kayak App has one great feature, Explore. Pick your home airport and it pops up a world map, with cheapest prices to each city. Useful if your choosing between a few destinations.
I just had a few hours off and wanted to fuck Nim in Club4 that serviced me particulary well when I saw her 8 weeks ago. She's from Petchabun, 22, no kids, and I like to repeat.
Got a motorbike out there just as the rain started pouring down. Club4 was closed, so was 007 and Pirates! And I was caught in this deserted place for more than half an hour while the rain kept pissing down.
Finally it cleared up a bit and another motorbike passed by, caught mercy on me and took me to the telephone box, never been there before, name just popped up when he asked where to. Rang the box, and the French owner came out and told me that it was closed, no girls, King's birthday! Got a new motorbike, went to Le Private, closed too didn't bother to check the post office as I was now soaking wet.
Back at my hotel, GF comes back tonight, I'm ready!
Uncle Volodya
12-05-15, 10:41
This report is of my days in Pattaya for a trip a few weeks ago. This past trip was split between BKK and Pattaya. . the first 4 days are posted in the BKK forum.
Rockhound.Great report. Thanks for sharing. You got me all revved up for my trip. Wheels up in 8 days!
I wouldn't sweat your girl Nat too much on the infidelity. She needs to make a living while you are away. And I would not sweat the lying too much, either. Thais are obsessed with saving face (your's and hers) and that, rather than any serious ill intentions, is often at the root of their dishonesty.
She seems to give you a pretty side berth while you are in Thailand. This is rare as Thai girls tend to be very jealous and possessive. Especially my current regular. I would have gotten the 5th degree about the whole "Singapore business" trip LOL.
Sounds like you have a good thing going. Why mess it up?
Best of luck and I look forward to your next report!
Stay horny my friend and keep those creampies coming (no pun intended) 555.
Uncle-V.
Blanquiceleste
12-05-15, 13:24
This report is of my days in Pattaya for a trip a few weeks ago. This past trip was split between BKK and Pattaya. . the first 4 days are posted in the BKK forum.
SNIP
Stay safe and rock on.
Rockhound.Fabulous set of reports. Took a whole hour to read them (BKK & PYX) and boy. I cannot wait to get back to Thailand! Way to go RockHound.
Christian G
12-05-15, 15:17
After Club4 and 007 new club in Soi Arunothai that seems a tiny soi6 LOL. Pirates Hostess Bar.
Passion club has not just opened, its been open for years. And yes you can barfine them for takeout for 500.My previous trip to Pattaya was in early 2012. I don't remember seeing any Go Go bars on Soi 6 at that time. Maybe I passed it by. By the way, the other Go Go Bar is Dolls, 3 doors down from Passions.
There are two small bars between Passions and Dolls. One had a bunch of good looking girls outside in front. I took one of them home for the night.
My previous trip to Pattaya was in early 2012. I don't remember seeing any Go Go bars on Soi 6 at that time. Maybe I passed it by. By the way, the other Go Go Bar is Dolls, 3 doors down from Passions.
There are two small bars between Passions and Dolls. One had a bunch of good looking girls outside in front. I took one of them home for the night.I just realized why I didn't see the Go Go Bars on my past trips to Soi 6. In previous trips, I went to Soi 6 on afternoons only, because I thought Soi 6 was a daytime place only. The Go Go bars open at night, which is probably why I didn't see them on past trips to Pattaya's Soi 6.
Sargent 50
12-06-15, 02:11
Team,
Has anyone ever spent Christmas in Pattaya or new years? I am thinking about booking my first Christmas time trip. But, heard it is very busy at that time. I worry, I will not be able to get a room. I was also researching online and read girls charge an extra 500 baut for short time? I don't know if that is true. Is the whole month of January hard to get a cheap room as well? I been to Thailand many times just never on a major holiday. If Thailand is too busy at that time I was thinking Vietnam but worry the girls all go back home for a week from the hot tocs. That defeats the whole purpose of my trip.
ThanksI have the same idea I was thinking Medellin first because it's closer but I guess the girl go to there families around New Years so I'm thinking of going here instead a couple days after Christmas.
What might a motobike taxi charge you to go from the Areca lodge up to Kinaree?
Blanquiceleste
12-07-15, 01:32
What might a motobike taxi charge you to go from the Areca lodge up to Kinaree?I have taken a motorbike taxi several times from the bars Soi 8 / Soi 7 to Pratumnak Hill. Never paid a baht more than 80.
RockHound74
12-07-15, 02:50
Great report. Thanks for sharing. You got me all revved up for my trip. Wheels up in 8 days!
I wouldn't sweat your girl Nat too much on the infidelity. She needs to make a living while you are away. And I would not sweat the lying too much, either. Thais are obsessed with saving face (your's and hers) and that, rather than any serious ill intentions, is often at the root of their dishonesty.
She seems to give you a pretty side berth while you are in Thailand. This is rare as Thai girls tend to be very jealous and possessive. Especially my current regular. I would have gotten the 5th degree about the whole "Singapore business" trip LOL.
Sounds like you have a good thing going. Why mess it up?
Best of luck and I look forward to your next report!
Stay horny my friend and keep those creampies coming (no pun intended) 555.
Uncle-V.Thanks and I agree with you! I will be in BKK in 3 days and Nat is "cumming" to see me of course. She will have the night and I will have the days. Maybe a soapie, BJ bar. Etc. She and I will be talking about the whole "you see people and I will too". She does like girls too but is embarrassed to bring a girl back with us. I am going to try to change that this trip!
Stay safe!
The Rock
Wolvenvacht
12-07-15, 08:32
From the airline's website? That is usually quite expensive.
Pussylicker2, just google "cheap flights" (in your own language, if your language is not English) or something like that to find cheap, local on line ticket sellers.Maybe, but he didn't say he wanted a cheap flight. He even asked for a travel agent!
Hi guys,
I am in the planning phase of my trip to Thailand in the beginning of February in 2016.
I am planning for a nine day trip to Pattaya (4 Days), Phuket (2 Days) and then to end it with Bangkok (3 Days).
I had a couple of questions regarding how things work over in Thailand.
1) A friend told me that if we are taking a Tuk Tuk or a Taxi to a club or a massage place, then we don't have to pay the driver as the establishment pays them a commission to bring customers. Is this true? If so how does it work?
2) From RTFF I gather that the bar fine for a girl is fixed and her rate is subject to bargaining. Is my understanding correct?
3) When I go to a massage place like Honey or Rasputin are we allowed to talk with the girl before we select her and go to the room to do the deed? Or is it just a selection based on looks and we get whatever service the girl wants to provide?
4) What are the Clubs\Go Go's which are a "must visit"?
5) When we book a double bedroom in a hotel is it understood by the hotel that we will bring a "guest" with us for the night? Or do they create issues and ask for a joiner fee?
I understand how valuable mongering time is, so any help on the above mentioned points or any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Try the Skyscanner App. Seems to routinely find flights for about 20% less than Kayak. The Kayak App has one great feature, Explore. Pick your home airport and it pops up a world map, with cheapest prices to each city. Useful if your choosing between a few destinations.I yield to superior research. I checked them against each other and skyscanner seems to do a better job. I never tried the explore function in kayak, though.
Hi guys,
I am in the planning phase of my trip to Thailand in the beginning of February in 2016.
I am planning for a nine day trip to Pattaya (4 Days), Phuket (2 Days) and then to end it with Bangkok (3 Days).
I had a couple of questions regarding how things work over in Thailand.
1) A friend told me that if we are taking a Tuk Tuk or a Taxi to a club or a massage place, then we don't have to pay the driver as the establishment pays them a commission to bring customers. Is this true? If so how does it work?
2) From RTFF I gather that the bar fine for a girl is fixed and her rate is subject to bargaining. Is my understanding correct?
3) When I go to a massage place like Honey or Rasputin are we allowed to talk with the girl before we select her and go to the room to do the deed? Or is it just a selection based on looks and we get whatever service the girl wants to provide?
4) What are the Clubs\Go Go's which are a "must visit"?
5) When we book a double bedroom in a hotel is it understood by the hotel that we will bring a "guest" with us for the night? Or do they create issues and ask for a joiner fee?
I understand how valuable mongering time is, so any help on the above mentioned points or any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.1. Having a taxi take you to a massage or club is probably going to be an expensive mistake. The driver isn't going to take you to the best place, he'll take you to the place that pays him the most. The establishment will then jack their prices above and beyond. If the place has nothing worth your interest, you're stuck paying for a wasted trip.
Instead, choose a hotel that's convenient. In Pattaya, if you are close to 2nd road or Beach Rd, you can catch a baht bus to go to the most promising areas, in Bangkok, close to a BTS station makes getting around easy.
4. The forum has all the answers. Or a Google search for Bangkok gogo will give a good list.
5. The Bangkok Hotels thread and Pattaya Hotels thread will help you choose a girl friendly hotel, Google search for some other good resources. Many hotels will check and hold the girl's ID, some only allow 1 girl at a time or 1 per day, without charging extra. It's best to confirm with the individual hotels on their exact policy.
I wouldn't recommend setting your schedule in stone. You may want to spend more or less time in each place. Book your first hotel for one night and decide from there.
Hi guys,
I am in the planning phase of my trip to Thailand in the beginning of February in 2016.
I am planning for a nine day trip to Pattaya (4 Days), Phuket (2 Days) and then to end it with Bangkok (3 Days).
I had a couple of questions regarding how things work over in Thailand.
1) A friend told me that if we are taking a Tuk Tuk or a Taxi to a club or a massage place, then we don't have to pay the driver as the establishment pays them a commission to bring customers. Is this true? If so how does it work?
2) From RTFF I gather that the bar fine for a girl is fixed and her rate is subject to bargaining. Is my understanding correct?
3) When I go to a massage place like Honey or Rasputin are we allowed to talk with the girl before we select her and go to the room to do the deed? Or is it just a selection based on looks and we get whatever service the girl wants to provide?
4) What are the Clubs\Go Go's which are a "must visit"?
5) When we book a double bedroom in a hotel is it understood by the hotel that we will bring a "guest" with us for the night? Or do they create issues and ask for a joiner fee?
I understand how valuable mongering time is, so any help on the above mentioned points or any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.Unbelieveable. I am speechless.
I am planning for a nine day trip to Pattaya (4 Days), Phuket (2 Days) and then to end it with Bangkok (3 Days).
You'll be spending more time flying and in taxi's when you should be on the ground. I'd cut out Phuket until you can manage a longer trip. I notice most of your posts are in the India section, if your Indian be warned you might not get into many of the clubs.
You guys who have been posting about it are right. These Thai girls have a sort of fascination with skin color and prefer lighter skin as "better". I never doubted this was true, but to be here and experience it is something. I was with a very attractive girl from Baccara tonight, and in between sessions her "skin speech" went something like this. "You brown, you brown. You no black you brown! You chocolate man. You brown like Asian. I like brown. You no black. I had chocolate boyfriend from San Francisco. He brown like you. I like white too. I like white. But when falang get old skin no good. Skin wrinkly and ugly. Old white lady too skin no good. Brown skin like Asian good". WTF LOL?
I have not noticed a lot of really dark-skinned guys with Thai girls here in Thailand, but I have noticed a few. Holding hands and making plans. At least for the next couple of hours anyway hahaha! So, I guess there's somebody for everybody here. But if you're really dark-skinned in Thailand, you are definitely going to be seen as "less beautiful" or maybe even unattractive by many, many of the Thai tutes. Not saying they won't go with you. Just reporting on what I've been hearing from the horse's mouth in Pattaya and Phuket too so far.
Banana Boi
12-07-15, 21:56
Tank,
Make sure your booking is for 2 people. As others said, read the hotels forums for the cities you want to visit. All the info is in there.
For me best talent in BKK gogo was Baccara. Also check out Crazy House. Girls are full nude there.
You can get to Honey 1, Honey 2, Rasputin, Sabai Dee, Sabai Room, soi 6, soi 7 and 8, Walking Street, Beach Road FL's all for 10 baht on a baht bus. Hopefully you're not trying to save 10 baht. Google map everywhere you want to go before your trip. I found getting around a breeze.
I negotiated a tuk tuk to take me from Soi Cowboy to drive me up and down to check out the soi 4 FL's, then to Nana for 80 baht. Not sure if that was cheap or not but really inexpensive imo. Otherwise take the BTS from Asoke to Nana for 15(?) baht or just walk they are not far apart.
LukeSkyWanker
12-07-15, 22:19
Just returned from a week in Pattaya, stayed at the holiday inn on the beach front. Nothing has changed much apart from the number of tourists, I have never seen it so quiet there are bargains to be had!
May the force be with you.
You'll be spending more time flying and in taxi's when you should be on the ground. I'd cut out Phuket until you can manage a longer trip. I notice most of your posts are in the India section, if your Indian be warned you might not get into many of the clubs.Or you can cut out Pattaya, reduce your days in Bangkok, and spend most of your time in Phuket or Ko Samui, (especially Samui). Not as much girl action as Pattaya, but enough for you. And a much nicer place!
Or you can cut out Pattaya, reduce your days in Bangkok, and spend most of your time in Phuket or Ko Samui, (especially Samui). Not as much girl action as Pattaya, but enough for you. And a much nicer place!I agree with you 100% that of the three places Phuket is the nicest and the most comfortable place to be. I wish I had spent less time in Pattaya and more in Phuket. In my opinion, Phuket requires a minimum of 3 days for the first time visitor. That said, I have so far found the best talent to be in Bangkok followed by Phuket.
It figures that the place I liked the least as a city (Bangkok) would have the best talent according to my personal tastes. Such is life! But if you're a newbie to Thailand, you can't cut out Bangkok. You have to go to Bangkok. There's just too much to see and do there. On a first trip, I think Bangkok deserves 4 to 5 days minimum.
Pattaya has the most talent in a more compact radius when you add it all up, but I did not find it to be the best talent. For example, I was in Pattaya for four days before I found somebody I wanted to bang!
Now, I have to admit that I'm not attracted to most Asian women, so that's what was going on with me. But if Asian women are your thing, then Pattaya will be like you died and went to Heaven.
Tank, if you only have 9 days, then I would take one away from Pattaya and give it to Phuket, As Breadman noted, it would be better if you could plan a little longer trip so as to give each major Thai mongering destination it's due consideration.
Just returned from a week in Pattaya, stayed at the holiday inn on the beach front. Nothing has changed much apart from the number of tourists, I have never seen it so quiet there are bargains to be had!
May the force be with you.We must have crossed, LOL, 1 week also.
Best sense of guest friendly, rooms are great and the girls love it. I like the transparent shower cabins, watching a shy girl preparing for the deed is a great appetizer.
I had a top floor (26'th) executive room, with a fantastic view of the bay and Pattaya city. As it's above neighbouring Markland hotel and condos you have enough privacy to fuck your girls on the balcony at nighttime when the sea breeze chills you down for such activities.
Soi 6 within walking distance and a motorbike station right at the ground floor Havana bar makes it easy to get to other points of action.
Uncle Volodya
12-08-15, 07:58
Thanks and I agree with you! I will be in BKK in 3 days and Nat is "cumming" to see me of course. She will have the night and I will have the days. Maybe a soapie, BJ bar. Etc. She and I will be talking about the whole "you see people and I will too". She does like girls too but is embarrassed to bring a girl back with us. I am going to try to change that this trip!
Stay safe!
The RockGreat buddy. Have fun and good luck getting that threesome together with your girl. You are living the life.
I wish, my little thaigir was not so damn jealous. I'd also like to live a little. That's not a typo she really does turn into a tiger and then we have great makeup sex. But I may need to drop her soon.
Uncle Volodya
12-08-15, 08:00
You guys who have been posting about it are right. These Thai girls have a sort of fascination with skin color and prefer lighter skin as "better". I never doubted this was true, but to be here and experience it is something. I was with a very attractive girl from Baccara tonight, and in between sessions her "skin speech" went something like this. "You brown, you brown. You no black you brown! You chocolate man. You brown like Asian. I like brown. You no black. I had chocolate boyfriend from San Francisco. He brown like you. I like white too. I like white. But when falang get old skin no good. Skin wrinkly and ugly. Old white lady too skin no good. Brown skin like Asian good". WTF LOL?
I have not noticed a lot of really dark-skinned guys with Thai girls here in Thailand, but I have noticed a few. Holding hands and making plans. At least for the next couple of hours anyway hahaha! So, I guess there's somebody for everybody here. But if you're really dark-skinned in Thailand, you are definitely going to be seen as "less beautiful" or maybe even unattractive by many, many of the Thai tutes. Not saying they won't go with you. Just reporting on what I've been hearing from the horse's mouth in Pattaya and Phuket too so far.Well said. But ultimately their fascination is with the color "green". 555.
Tank,
Make sure your booking is for 2 people. As others said, read the hotels forums for the cities you want to visit. All the info is in there.
For me best talent in BKK gogo was Baccara. Also check out Crazy House. Girls are full nude there.
You can get to Honey 1, Honey 2, Rasputin, Sabai Dee, Sabai Room, soi 6, soi 7 and 8, Walking Street, Beach Road FL's all for 10 baht on a baht bus. Hopefully you're not trying to save 10 baht. Google map everywhere you want to go before your trip. I found getting around a breeze.
I negotiated a tuk tuk to take me from Soi Cowboy to drive me up and down to check out the soi 4 FL's, then to Nana for 80 baht. Not sure if that was cheap or not but really inexpensive imo. Otherwise take the BTS from Asoke to Nana for 15(?) baht or just walk they are not far apart.Banana Boi,
Thanks for all the info! Yes, I have marked most of the "Points of Interest" on Google Maps.
I will add some of the ones I have missed.
TheTank
You'll be spending more time flying and in taxi's when you should be on the ground. I'd cut out Phuket until you can manage a longer trip. I notice most of your posts are in the India section, if your Indian be warned you might not get into many of the clubs.Breadman,
Yes, I am Indian and I am aware that many clubs don't allow us in and think of us as a nuisance, a lot of Indians visitors have spoilt it for the rest of us, however I have heard that there is a workaround for this if we say that we want an entire bottle and a table we (Indians) get VIP Service from the Club, I am not sure if this is true or not but I will try it and report back to the forum. I will be looking forward to visiting Tony's Club.
Thanks for all your suggestions. I will surely take all your advice under consideration.
TheTank
I agree with you 100% that of the three places Phuket is the nicest and the most comfortable place to be. I wish I had spent less time in Pattaya and more in Phuket. In my opinion, Phuket requires a minimum of 3 days for the first time visitor. That said, I have so far found the best talent to be in Bangkok followed by Phuket.
It figures that the place I liked the least as a city (Bangkok) would have the best talent according to my personal tastes. Such is life! But if you're a newbie to Thailand, you can't cut out Bangkok. You have to go to Bangkok. There's just too much to see and do there. On a first trip, I think Bangkok deserves 4 to 5 days minimum.
Pattaya has the most talent in a more compact radius when you add it all up, but I did not find it to be the best talent. For example, I was in Pattaya for four days before I found somebody I wanted to bang!
Now, I have to admit that I'm not attracted to most Asian women, so that's what was going on with me. But if Asian women are your thing, then Pattaya will be like you died and went to Heaven.
Tank, if you only have 9 days, then I would take one away from Pattaya and give it to Phuket, As Breadman noted, it would be better if you could plan a little longer trip so as to give each major Thai mongering destination it's due consideration.The Cane,
Thanks for your suggestions, yes I was also thinking of increasing the number of days for Phuket as well. A longer trip is not possible at this point in time and have only 9 days max I can spare. Oh well just increases my chances of planning another trip in the future.
TheTank
Blanquiceleste
12-08-15, 14:35
I am in the planning phase of my trip to Thailand in the beginning of February in 2016.
SNIP
I understand how valuable mongering time is, so any help on the above mentioned points or any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.Make sure you read the ROD threads on each location. There are some very solid reports there. Specially ones on how not to get ripped off.
Mr Enternational
12-08-15, 18:20
I will be looking forward to visiting Tony's Club.Hey man don't give away the secret. On the other hand most of the guys who post here do the gogos so we don't have to worry about them in the discos.
Breadman,
Yes, I am Indian and I am aware that many clubs don't allow us in and think of us as a nuisance, a lot of Indians visitors have spoilt it for the rest of us, however I have heard that there is a workaround for this if we say that we want an entire bottle and a table we (Indians) get VIP Service from the Club, I am not sure if this is true or not but I will try it and report back to the forum. I will be looking forward to visiting Tony's Club.
Thanks for all your suggestions. I will surely take all your advice under consideration.
TheTankI think the odds are stacked against you, bias can't be overcome with a bottle. You might gain entry in a club or two but then you'll be dealing with the girls who won't want to be barfined by you in fear of finding a group of men waiting back at your hotel....each guy in your group is staying in their own room correct?
Gin And Tonic
12-09-15, 06:17
I think the odds are stacked against you, bias can't be overcome with a bottle. You might gain entry in a club or two but then you'll be dealing with the girls who won't want to be barfined by you in fear of finding a group of men waiting back at your hotel....each guy in your group is staying in their own room correct?I think the bottle service may do it. It seems to me these places will not let Indians in is because they think they will not spend cash. Same goes for the Russians. At Red Car I have witnessed a Russian couple be let in but they were told they had a 3 drink minimum. A doorman would come by every 15 minutes reminding them of it.
No doubt, Phuket is the most beautiful place to spend time in Thailand.
Its like south Goa but far less crowd and pollution but more white sand.
In my knowledge and experience mongering is more easier and cheap for first timers in Pattaya.
As far as travelling for nightlife is concerned, if you are staying near second road and central Pattaya road you can reach to most of the happening places in no time with abaht bus that charges 10 b I. E. 20 INR for any distance on beach road and second road. Just don't ask "how much?" To the baht bus driver. BTW baht bus is not like a typical Indian bus, its like our tata207 model with arrangement of seats in the rear trunk.
For most of the tourist places like underwater world, sriracha zoo or even Russian show and 69 show, you can get a cab for free since the get commission from the venues they are taking you to. But it would be wise to visit any soapy or other mongering place on your own using baht bus and a little walk.
Peace!
Make sure you read the ROD threads on each location. There are some very solid reports there. Specially ones on how not to get ripped off.Blanquiceleste,
Sure will do.
Thank you for your insight.
TheTank
LittleBigMan
12-09-15, 08:02
I.
First, if you can't get in whatever you want to do is not relevant. And if you do get in why bother to do bottle service unless the girls want to drink and go with you. I would just buy a drink first and go from there. It is sad that you have to overspend needlessly. There are plenty of Go Go's on W. S. That will allow Indians that dress Western style into Go Go's particularly on Soi Diamond and Soi 15, alone. If all is lost give Katoey R.Us a try on Soi Dimond.
I think the odds are stacked against you, bias can't be overcome with a bottle. You might gain entry in a club or two but then you'll be dealing with the girls who won't want to be barfined by you in fear of finding a group of men waiting back at your hotel....each guy in your group is staying in their own room correct?I will try a see if the technique works or not and I will report back on the forum. Sometimes when the odds are stacked up against you makes it even more of a adventure.
Actually its not a group its just 2 of us who are going and we are having separate rooms so we can enjoy in private.
Hey man don't give away the secret. On the other hand most of the guys who post here do the gogos so we don't have to worry about them in the discos.Mr Enternational,
I think everyone on this forum are giving away their secrets and valuable insights. If we are able to help each other then why not?
I.
First, if you can't get in whatever you want to do is not relevant. And if you do get in why bother to do bottle service unless the girls want to drink and go with you. I would just buy a drink first and go from there. It is sad that you have to overspend needlessly. There are plenty of Go Go's on W. S. That will allow Indians that dress Western style into Go Go's particularly on Soi Diamond and Soi 15, alone. If all is lost give Katoey R.Us a try on Soi Dimond.LittleBigMan,
Yeah, its kind of sad that a few have spoilt it for the rest of us, and because of these few most of the others who have come to have a good time are the ones who have to pay the price of it. I have heard a lot about how Indians are behaving over there and creating a bad image for the lot of us. Oh well what can you do?
I have made a list of places to visit and Go Go's are on the list too, I will add your suggestions to it as well.
Thank you for your help!
TheTank
1) A friend told me that if we are taking a Tuk Tuk or a Taxi to a club or a massage place, then we don't have to pay the driver as the establishment pays them a commission to bring customers. Is this true? If so how does it work?If a tuk tuk or taxi takes you to his choice of massage parlor, he gets a commission. You will have to negotiate with the driver to give you a free ride (easily done). You probably can even negotiate so that he pays you a kickback. But as written previously, you will pay more overall.
2) From RTFF I gather that the bar fine for a girl is fixed and her rate is subject to bargaining. Is my understanding correct?Yes. I've never seen people trying to haggle down the bar fine. Wondering if some places will accept. But IMO this might give you a bad cheap reputation.
5) When we book a double bedroom in a hotel is it understood by the hotel that we will bring a "guest" with us for the night? Or do they create issues and ask for a joiner fee?Many / most hotels in Pattaya will not have a joiner fee for 1 guest. Many will have a joiner fee if you bring in more than 1 girl (I hate this policy!) Some (not many) hotels do not want this type of business and will apply a joiner fee for the first girl. You need to find out. There is a site that lists the girl friendly hotels, or ask the hotel.
LittleBigMan
12-09-15, 14:48
LittleBigMan,
Yeah, its kind of sad that a few have spoilt it for the rest of us, and because of these few most of the others who have come to have a good time are the ones who have to pay the price of it. I have heard a lot about how Indians are behaving over there and creating a bad image for the lot of us. Oh well what can you do?
I have made a list of places to visit and Go Go's are on the list too, I will add your suggestions to it as well.
Thank you for your help!
TheTankAs noted in the past, I do not think in general any of the Indians we are talking about will be on this board. The one's here I think I can safely say are more educated. More well manner and have been living or working outside of Indian etc. To be more in tune with many of the western ways like in dressing. I'm somewhat of a people watcher when I go down to W. S. And like to stand outside the Walkway that leads to Happy Gogo, one can learn a lot just standing and watching. I do not have the exact words to describe the profile we have of Indians and how they dress and walk around in groups. I've seen a number of them go the path to Happy and then a minute of so later they are walking back down. The Thais general profile and when they come down in small groups (3-5) along with their style of dress the majority of the time they get turn away at the more popular venues. If you do not know what I am talking about just stand in one place long enough to watch. I stand around that area because in general many of these Indians stay around the small Soi just across from Lucifers P72, up to 2nd Road, and back of W. S. A area called Marine. Up from Marine Soi 17? Along V. See Hotel these Soi is know where many Mid-Eastern stay. I believe the more Western dress you are the greater chance you will be able to get in. A simple item is like a Ball cap for example with a Niki logo, shirt, shorts, as I noted Thais do a lot of profiling. Now if you decide to wear shorts and follow that up with black socks and streets shoes I myself will kick you out. If you do not believe me as you approach a place and the door man spots and check out his body language he will be giving you the head toe number if he is not sure. I personally get this theory because I can be mistaken for Thai, but I get this head toe number because I'm always in shorts with sports shoes like Nike, etc. Then they assume I'm Japanese or Korean. Instead of bottle service and overpaying for drinks and such invest in some western wear or a cap? .
A simple item is like a Ball cap for example with a Niki logo, shirt, shorts, as I noted Thais do a lot of profiling. If you do not believe me as you approach a place and the door man spots and check out his body language he will be giving you the head toe number if he is not sure. I personally get this theory because I can be mistaken for Thai, but I get this head toe number because I'm always in shorts with sports shoes like Nike, etc. Then they assume I'm Japanese or Korean. Instead of bottle service and overpaying for drinks and such invest in some western wear or a cap?This is some handy advice Little Big Man, but it is absolutely not fail proof! I know because I dress in exactly the manner that you suggest when mongering, and I have been denied entry to three bars in Thailand. Two in Bangkok and one in Pattaya (wasn't Happy Go-Go where I was welcomed with open arms). Probably because they thought I was Indian. I will be writing about these experiences in detail a little later. Look for the post to come. And remember that I was dressed as you recommend.
Oh well what can you do? Like LBM said, try to blend in. What's the first thing people spot to identify someone as coming from India? I'd have to say the unwashed long greasy hair is the first thing that comes to mind. If its hot and humid, westerners shave off most of their hair (either a buzz cut or by going bald). I've met younger Indians at home in the states who had buzz cuts and they blended in completely. A buzz cut and a baseball cap are the way to go. All depends on what lengths you and your buddy will go to get into these clubs. Try it first your way, saying you'll buy a bottle. Try it by trying to dress like a westerner. If that fails there are tons of barber shops that will give you a buzz cut in Pattaya. I use them every trip.
As noted in the past, I do not think in general any of the Indians we are talking about will be on this board. The one's here I think I can safely say are more educated. More well manner and have been living or working outside of Indian etc. To be more in tune with many of the western ways like in dressing. I'm somewhat of a people watcher when I go down to W. S. And like to stand outside the Walkway that leads to Happy Gogo, one can learn a lot just standing and watching. I do not have the exact words to describe the profile we have of Indians and how they dress and walk around in groups. I've seen a number of them go the path to Happy and then a minute of so later they are walking back down. The Thais general profile and when they come down in small groups (3-5) along with their style of dress the majority of the time they get turn away at the more popular venues. If you do not know what I am talking about just stand in one place long enough to watch. I stand around that area because in general many of these Indians stay around the small Soi just across from Lucifers P72, up to 2nd Road, and back of W. S. A area called Marine. Up from Marine Soi 17? Along V. See Hotel these Soi is know where many Mid-Eastern stay. I believe the more Western dress you are the greater chance you will be able to get in. A simple item is like a Ball cap for example with a Niki logo, shirt, shorts, as I noted Thais do a lot of profiling..LittleBigMan,
I am a people watcher too and I too like to observe people when they think nobody is watching them, as they say you are your true self when no one is watching you.
I can agree with you on all the points you mentioned. I understand that there is an acceptable dressing sense one needs follow while going to a club, and I follow that when I go to any club be it in India, UK or Dubai. I will report back with how things go when I am there.
Kind regards,
TheTank
If a tuk tuk or taxi takes you to his choice of massage parlor, he gets a commission. You will have to negotiate with the driver to give you a free ride (easily done). You probably can even negotiate so that he pays you a kickback. But as written previously, you will pay more overall.
Yes. I've never seen people trying to haggle down the bar fine. Wondering if some places will accept. But IMO this might give you a bad cheap reputation.
Many / most hotels in Pattaya will not have a joiner fee for 1 guest. Many will have a joiner fee if you bring in more than 1 girl (I hate this policy!) Some (not many) hotels do not want this type of business and will apply a joiner fee for the first girl. You need to find out. There is a site that lists the girl friendly hotels, or ask the hotel.GreenBud,
Thank you for your valuable feedback.
1) Yeah a friend was telling me that if we take a tuk tuk or a taxi to a place of our choice sometimes the driver is given a commission of around 100 Baht, so he doesn't need to take money from the passengers. I was just trying to confirm what my friend was saying.
2) I was just trying to know how things work over there, so as to not come across as a cheaper. Being an Indian I need to be more careful, I don't want to tarnish our already bad reputation any further.
3) I will be sure to confirm with the hotel before booking my room.
A big thank you once again, I am sure a lot of first time visitors will find your feedback really helpful.
TheTank
Wolvenvacht
12-09-15, 19:33
Like LBM said, try to blend in. Good luck with that. Thai are experts in profiling, be it your ethnicity or your social status. It comes as second nature to them.
Getting a hair cut is not going to change that very much.
The best our Indian brethren can hope for is to be identified as Indians (little chance to avoid that) of "upper class" of "Hi so" by not running around in boisterous packs, being clean and wearing nice clothes.
Don't look like a beaten dog, but look the doorman right in the eye, smile and pose as the esteemed guest of the Club you indeed are, whereas the doorman is only an employee, appointed to keep the riff-raff out and open the door for you.
Walking 5 times past the door, furtively looking out of the corner of your eyes and then hesitating to go in, will surely not be your best approach.
They may charge you a drink to allow you in, just accept it gracefully as you were going to order a drink anyhow. It even happened to me once in Baccara in Soi Cowboy when I went there with my GF. They sold us a drink before we could go in as quite right they assumed I was not visiting them to barfine another girl. Strangely enough, Suzi Wong allowed us in without any fuzz, but then again Suzi Wong is my favorite agogo club.
Randy Murican
12-09-15, 19:55
Thai are experts in profiling. I would agree wholeheartedly. Try doing a slow stroll down Cowboy wearing a wife beater, shorts, and flip-flops. Then, a week or so later do the same slow stroll dressed in business casual and note the difference in how well you are received.
Good luck with that. Thai are experts in profiling, be it your ethnicity or your social status. It comes as second nature to them.
Getting a hair cut is not going to change that very much.
But wouldn't going to that extreme confound the door guys just a bit? How many bald headed Indians might they have seen on the job? My guess is none. It would work much better than wearing a nike shirt. Another thing to consider is trying to enter separately, one might make it in whereas two will be denied. The other guy has to try another bar on his own.
Hello guys,
I am planning a trip to LOS in Mid Feb with one of my best friends and thought it would be a good idea to get a good 4* Hotel with a suite with 2 attached rooms and a common hall.
Do anyone have an idea about any such hotels or service apartments? I was thinking of booking somewhere close to where all the action is.
Thanks
And while we are on the subject, wrong choice to be looking for what's basically 'one room'. A girl will freak out if you bring her back and your buddy is sitting in the main area or she see's another door that's closed. You might even consider staying in hotels next to each other instead of the same hotel, if one of you manages to get a girl back to the room she might ask how many guys are with you to the receptionist.
Pipe Layer99
12-09-15, 21:00
Of course, the catch is that you then have to wait until 2 or 3 AM before they leave their bars or agogo-clubs. By that time I'm already long satisfied and asleep with a cute SYT in my arms. And which girls are available at that hour? Indeed, those who failed to get chosen for LT or girls who did a few ST already. Speaking of "sloppy seconds".
You can get lucky of course and your choice is certainly still out there ... somewhere, but I find it tedious to still hunt at that hour and spend my time in noisy disco's.Different stokes for different people. I like to go out later. My preference.
You better guess again if you think you aren't getting sloppy seconds. That girl you took at 11 pm or 12 am probably already went for a ST. They go in early (about 7 or 8) and can easily do a short time before you even got there. Secondly, who ever took her last night enjoyed her again in the afternoon before sending her home. So she just got boned a few hours before. So she was already plowed through. Lastly, guys like me already got her number and had her come over before work. I like to have them come before they go to work (avoiding the high ass bar fine) and bone them. Then I send her away already wet. So again, already sloppy. If you think you are getting them fresh, in addition to paying huge bar fines, might want to rethink that one.
I like having something set up for early afternoons if possible. Then I'll venture out around 4 pm looking for something suitable. I'll then try out a short time girl somewhere from a gogo or a beer bar early in the evening. I'll then party on, maybe run into something worth taking for another round or look for something LT. I do like the atmosphere of the clubs and like to get out, try to bring a ST girl along and turn it into LT. What worked great for me last trip was finding girls who would come over after work and stay the night, let me sample here and there while knowing I had dinner planned for later.
LittleBigMan
12-10-15, 01:43
This is some handy advice Little Big Man, but it is absolutely not fail proof! I know because I dress in exactly the manner that you suggest when mongering, and I have been denied entry to three bars in Thailand. Two in Bangkok and one in Pattaya (wasn't Happy Go-Go where I was welcomed with open arms). Probably because they thought I was Indian. I will be writing about these experiences in detail a little later. Look for the post to come. And remember that I was dressed as you recommend.I be crazy to disagree, Clothing is only a small %, one can't change how you facially look or speak and how you rap back to the doorman. Next up is getting a greenback out and ready if the first doesn't work 100 baht,, just like home. I've never had a problem going anywhere or rejected in Thailand including the Temples with my general Nike shorts, Golf type shirts or sports shoes. Of course I do not have greasy hair, smell. Personally I do not believe in going too far just to go in? Now if you want to throw them off, up the ante, get yourself a suit and a tie, or even a tuxudo with top hat and cane, now if that doesn't do it I just settle for Hamburger the rest of my trip and get a room at Soi 6, or Soi Honey. If your timing is right you might want to hookup with some of the Expats Go Go bar and go go crawls. I been to a few and once in a while there is someone Indian and I've haven't notice them not being denied entry?
Like LBM said, try to blend in. What's the first thing people spot to identify someone as coming from India? I'd have to say the unwashed long greasy hair is the first thing that comes to mind. If its hot and humid, westerners shave off most of their hair (either a buzz cut or by going bald). I've met younger Indians at home in the states who had buzz cuts and they blended in completely. A buzz cut and a baseball cap are the way to go. All depends on what lengths you and your buddy will go to get into these clubs. Try it first your way, saying you'll buy a bottle. Try it by trying to dress like a westerner. If that fails there are tons of barber shops that will give you a buzz cut in Pattaya. I use them every trip.Breadman,
Sounds as if I am going on some clandestine mission. Most of the time I wear smart casuals (chinos and a polo t-shirt) and under no circumstances do I have oil in my hair, the modern Indian youngster has changed a lot and we have moved away from the typical Indian some people have in mind, though there are some outliers. I shall try all mentioned tactics and report back with which one worked.
Good luck with that. Thai are experts in profiling, be it your ethnicity or your social status. It comes as second nature to them.
Getting a hair cut is not going to change that very much.
The best our Indian brethren can hope for is to be identified as Indians (little chance to avoid that) of "upper class" of "Hi so" by not running around in boisterous packs, being clean and wearing nice clothes.
Don't look like a beaten dog, but look the doorman right in the eye, smile and pose as the esteemed guest of the Club you indeed are, whereas the doorman is only an employee, appointed to keep the riff-raff out and open the door for you.
Walking 5 times past the door, furtively looking out of the corner of your eyes and then hesitating to go in, will surely not be your best approach.
They may charge you a drink to allow you in, just accept it gracefully as you were going to order a drink anyhow. It even happened to me once in Baccara in Soi Cowboy when I went there with my GF. They sold us a drink before we could go in as quite right they assumed I was not visiting them to barfine another girl. Strangely enough, Suzi Wong allowed us in without any fuzz, but then again Suzi Wong is my favorite agogo club.Wolvenvacht,
Yes I agree, being confident is key to getting in, if we look shabby and act jumpy I am sure the doorman will think that we are up to no good and deny entry, they will also restrict entry to people who they think are not going to spend money and just take up space in the club, I intend to spend money and have a good time at the clubs, if I have to I don't mind tipping the doorman either.
And I also agree with the point that they may charge me for the drink, as it is who is going to go in a club and not have a drink?
Thank you for all the help.
TheTank
Different stokes for different people. I like to go out later. My preference.
You better guess again if you think you aren't getting sloppy seconds. That girl you took at 11 pm or 12 am probably already went for a ST. They go in early (about 7 or 8) and can easily do a short time before you even got there. Secondly, who ever took her last night enjoyed her again in the afternoon before sending her home. So she just got boned a few hours before. So she was already plowed through. Lastly, guys like me already got her number and had her come over before work. I like to have them come before they go to work (avoiding the high ass bar fine) and bone them. Then I send her away already wet. So again, already sloppy. If you think you are getting them fresh, in addition to paying huge bar fines, might want to rethink that one.So when she comes to you before she goes to work the guy who took her last night enjoyed her again that same afternoon.... LOL!
Pipe Layer99
12-10-15, 22:55
So when she comes to you before she goes to work the guy who took her last night enjoyed her again that same afternoon.... LOL!Can't slip anything past you now can I. I'm a little bit more clever than that though. I ask the girl in a joking way if she was 'busy' as in if she has fucked already (if she was, I let her be). And follow that up by asking if she is horny. At least this way she is a bit fresher. ;)
Wolvenvacht
12-11-15, 08:10
Different stokes for different people. I like to go out later. My preference.Perfectly! We will divide the world between us two. I go early, you go late.
You better guess again if you think you aren't getting sloppy seconds.Someone much wiser than me once said "One shower and she is as good as new, almost a virgin again".
Someone much wiser than me once said "One shower and she is as good as new, almost a virgin again".Hose her down and hand her the mouthwash.
Pipe Layer99
12-11-15, 19:11
Perfectly! We will divide the world between us two. I go early, you go late.Not exactly. For the gogo girls that I know (and have met both at a gogo or out and about), I have them come over 'before' she goes to work. So you are actually getting them later. I leave that barfining stuff to you.
And yes, they always need a good cleaning to make 'em almost good as new! (at least new for the next customer) :-) It's like buying a used car. Nice and clean, polished, and ready for delivery.
Different stokes for different people. I like to go out later. My preference.
You better guess again if you think you aren't getting sloppy seconds. That girl you took at 11 pm or 12 am probably already went for a ST. They go in early (about 7 or 8) and can easily do a short time before you even got there. Secondly, who ever took her last night enjoyed her again in the afternoon before sending her home. So she just got boned a few hours before. So she was already plowed through. Lastly, guys like me already got her number and had her come over before work. I like to have them come before they go to work (avoiding the high ass bar fine) and bone them. Then I send her away already wet. So again, already sloppy. If you think you are getting them fresh, in addition to paying huge bar fines, might want to rethink that one.A bargirl liked very much to do her first (maybe) short time for the evening with me at 6 PM. That way, she had one out of the way and a nice money start, before she even arrived at work. She did not like to take LT as it typically limited her earnings potential (LT possible for larger sums or very well liked customers). However logically she isn't a virgin so freshness is only relative and we would not know for sure if she just met some other guy at his Hotel at 4 PM. Don't be so smug. Just accept that you are helping out a girl to take her at some time that is not normally so popular with all the other dudes, so she can make more money all up.
These Thai girls clean thoroughly and popular girls are able to choose less difficult customers that will not leave them devoid of energy. They are clean. Sloppy seconds is emotional bullshit.
I think many of us agree though, for girls that have too many customers, it's better to be an early customer. Arriving at shops not far from closing time is a bad idea. Girls can be very drunk late in the evening ( or sometimes even early). Drunk girls is also not a good idea.
Pipe Layer99
12-11-15, 19:29
If you haven't been here is awhile, new places abound. I recently took a buddy further to North Pattaya and Naklua. He had never been that far up. New bars, cleaner streets / sidewalks (the walkways were previously all gravel, dirt, etc.), and new girls.
In the whole LK Metro area, including Soi Buakhao, there are also new bars. Sport bars, bars with girls, and new gogos. Plenty of new faces all around. Got to love it.
Pipe Layer99
12-11-15, 19:37
A bargirl liked very much to do her first (maybe) short time for the evening with me at 6 PM. That way, she had one out of the way and a nice money start, before she even arrived at work. She did not like to take LT as it typically limited her earnings potential (LT possible for larger sums or very well liked customers). However logically she isn't a virgin so freshness is only relative and we would not know for sure if she just met some other guy at his Hotel at 4 PM. Don't be so smug .......
These Thai girls clean thoroughly and popular girls are able to choose less difficult customers that will not leave them devoid of energy. They are clean. Sloppy seconds is emotional bullshit.
I think many of us agree though, for girls that have too many customers, it's better to be an early customer. Arriving at shops not far from closing time is a bad idea. Girls can be very drunk late in the evening ( or sometimes even early). Drunk girls is also not a good idea.Obviously they are not virgins. That sloppy seconds comment was for the other poster.
I can assure you one thing, I prefer not to have a girl who just got done. Which is why I rarely go to Soi 6. When I do go there, it's just to drink with friends and hang out before heading someplace else.
Wolvenvacht,
Yes I agree, being confident is key to getting in, if we look shabby and act jumpy I am sure the doorman will think that we are up to no good and deny entry, they will also restrict entry to people who they think are not going to spend money and just take up space in the club, I intend to spend money and have a good time at the clubs, if I have to I don't mind tipping the doorman either.
And I also agree with the point that they may charge me for the drink, as it is who is going to go in a club and not have a drink?
Thank you for all the help.
TheTankWish you the best of luck, just remember each club has different bouncers working so don't give up on one club if your turned away, they might have different bouncers working the following night. Had an idea but not sure if it would work. All of the clubs have girls standing outside, you might start up a chat with a few girls and offer to buy them drinks inside. If the bouncers turn you away you'll have the girls fighting for your admission to the club. Not sure tipping the bouncer on the way in would work but I'd definately tip them on the way out if you plan to return.
Hi,
I have done most of the mongering in Dominican republic and Colombia. Where I always has to negotiate for BBBJ with girls before the session. My question is that in Thailand do I have to negotiate with girls for BBBJ, if yes then would they understand in English or I have to find a way to translate. This would be same for GOGO girls, beer bar or FL's or different for different girl.
Thanks for the info.
Cheers.
Soldierb11
12-12-15, 19:36
Hi,
I have done most of the mongering in Dominican republic and Colombia. Where I always has to negotiate for BBBJ with girls before the session. My question is that in Thailand do I have to negotiate with girls for BBBJ, if yes then would they understand in English or I have to find a way to translate. This would be same for GOGO girls, beer bar or FL's or different for different girl.
Thanks for the info.
Cheers.If it's important to you then yes always negotiate for what you want. Generally speaking I receive BBBJ most of the time fro Gogo dancers and almost none of the time in a soapie. Quite a few girls will speak some English in Pattaya and almost all will be able to understand the sexual vocabulary that's needed to land a client.
Anybody some intel about Ban Chang these days. I normally make a stopover there at my return trip from Sihanoukville. Last time, 2 years ago it was quite depressing as the hotel at the end of the strip was fully booked so I had to get a room in the Pub where the strip begins. Reasonable food and drinks but very rundown rooms. OK for a night but I prefer a higher standard. Almost no customers at the strip and girls tried to compensate the Thai way by increasing the ST rates to 1500 bt. Finally I drank wine, a lot of wine with the lady barkeeper of Mon bar and had a nice time with her after closing hours.
Hi,
I have done most of the mongering in Dominican republic and Colombia. Where I always has to negotiate for BBBJ with girls before the session. My question is that in Thailand do I have to negotiate with girls for BBBJ, if yes then would they understand in English or I have to find a way to translate. This would be same for GOGO girls, beer bar or FL's or different for different girl.
Thanks for the info.
Cheers.In my experience you don't have to negotiate for BBBJ in Pattaya, not with gogo or beer bar girls and FL's anyway. 99,9% of the girls will do it. Exceptions may be girls in soapies (but that's a waste of money anyway IMHO) and some real stunners in the gogo's. I think it's even better NOT to negotiate BBBJ because it gives away that you're a newbie (in Pattaya anyway).
Last year I barfined a drop dead gorgeous little spinner from the Happy Agogo without negotiating any particular service. Once in my room she insisted on CBJ. This could have been a mood killer for me and I thought about sending her away but she was such a nice and intelligent (yes, there are exceptions) girl and so damn cute that I gave her the benefit of the doubt. She gave me exceptionally good service; one of the best gogo girls I ever had. She stayed for 2 hours because I DID negotiate the time she would stay with me. If you don't do that she might say, after you've payed the barfine, that she has to be back in the agogo in 1 hour.
FreeWillyBruh
12-13-15, 11:57
In my experience you don't have to negotiate for BBBJ in Pattaya, not with gogo or beer bar girls and FL's anyway. 99,9% of the girls will do it. Exceptions may be girls in soapies (but that's a waste of money anyway IMHO) and some real stunners in the gogo's. I think it's even better NOT to negotiate BBBJ because it gives away that you're a newbie (in Pattaya anyway).
Last year I barfined a drop dead gorgeous little spinner from the Happy Agogo without negotiating any particular service. Once in my room she insisted on CBJ. This could have been a mood killer for me and I thought about sending her away but she was such a nice and intelligent (yes, there are exceptions) girl and so damn cute that I gave her the benefit of the doubt. She gave me exceptionally good service; one of the best gogo girls I ever had. She stayed for 2 hours because I DID negotiate the time she would stay with me. If you don't do that she might say, after you've payed the barfine, that she has to be back in the agogo in 1 hour.Great points Mogwai and the girls puck up easily on the novice giveaways. Like you, I will verify time and pops as I also pulled this little stunner LT from Happy Agogo who was so full of great dancing energy that we had to hit the disco before room. She tried to just leave in the morning after only 1 pop and was redirected back to bed. This is why I don't like paying the $5000 LT rate upfront as performance may vary.
Nothing worse than getting that stunner back to your loom and she becomes deer in the headlights when you present the Frank and Beans to her face - " I no smoke" - Dammit! !
LoverboyJerico
12-13-15, 20:10
I have been to Soi 6 last visit and certainly had a great session with a girl. I always wonder. Do the bars at Soi 6 also test the girls for STDs like the good gogos and Rasputin and all or. Are they not checked at all?
I have been to Soi 6 last visit and certainly had a great session with a girl. I always wonder. Do the bars at Soi 6 also test the girls for STDs like the good gogos and Rasputin and all or. Are they not checked at all?Interesting question but I'd like to expand it by asking if anyone has solid proof that any establishment has the girls checked on a regular basis? I would think the majority leave it up to the girl to care for herself. And even if they show you a piece of paper, how can you be sure its legit?
That being asked, there are certain risks to the hobby and this is one of them.
LoverboyJerico
12-14-15, 02:16
I think the well known gogos and Rasputin honey, devils den do check on a regular basis. I haven't seen a proof paper and can't guarantee, but yes, last visit my friend fucked a girl from sensations with condom and she was fucking scared. She was saying that at the gogos they check the girls every month and infected cannot work. Felt true over the way she said and also over the way she got concerned.
Interesting question but I'd like to expand it by asking if anyone has solid proof that any establishment has the girls checked on a regular basis? I would think the majority leave it up to the girl to care for herself. And even if they show you a piece of paper, how can you be sure its legit?
That being asked, there are certain risks to the hobby and this is one of them.
In my experience you don't have to negotiate for BBBJ in Pattaya, not with gogo or beer bar girls and FL's anyway. 99,9% of the girls will do it. Exceptions may be girls in soapies (but that's a waste of money anyway IMHO) and some real stunners in the gogo's.In my experiences with go-go girls (with above average in looks), my percentage number isn't as high as yours.
In order to not get a bad experience, I always ask all the services that is given. I know that may kill the mood, but it "sucks" if you don't get what you want in the room. And sometimes, it doesn't matter what you ask. Some (small minority) will renege.
In my experiences with go-go girls (with above average in looks), my percentage number isn't as high as yours.
In order to not get a bad experience, I always ask all the services that is given. I know that may kill the mood, but it "sucks" if you don't get what you want in the room. And sometimes, it doesn't matter what you ask. Some (small minority) will renege.I don't have much experience with gogos because when in Pattaya I prefer the less costly trial-and-errors of the bar scene. In my experience the rare bar girls who refuse BBBJ mostly do so because they imagine this is a prequel to unprotexted intercourse. In most cases I have been able to make them drop their resistance simply by reassuring them that "after blowjob I put on condom".
Hi,
I have done most of the mongering in Dominican republic and Colombia. Where I always has to negotiate for BBBJ with girls before the session. My question is that in Thailand do I have to negotiate with girls for BBBJ, if yes then would they understand in English or I have to find a way to translate. This would be same for GOGO girls, beer bar or FL's or different for different girl.
Thanks for the info.
Cheers.Just to clarify, Chotu. When you say, "BBBJ", are you talking about mere uncovered oral foreplay before moving on to some other sexual act for the finish or are you talking about an uncovered blowjob with a genuine blowjob finish; meaning a Cum in Mouth finish? Due to the short cut abbreviations most of read and use on the 'net (BJ, BBBJ, BBBJ CIM, etc.), a bit of a Tower of Babel has been constructed around what actually does and does not constitute a "blowjob" in the P4 P industry these days. I am not familiar with how things go in the Dominican Republic and Columbia, so I didn't know which you were talking about exactly. It seemed to me you might be talking about a real blowjob with a real CIM finish and not mere oral foreplay. Is that correct?
If you are talking about mere oral foreplay, then I would agree with pretty much everything that has been said about it up to now.
However, if you are talking about a real blowjob with a real blowjob finish, which by my standards and possibly by Dominican Republic / Columbia standards means the girl sucks your dick to completion and you cum fully into her mouth before she stops sucking it (the only decision at that point being if the girl will "spit or swallow") then I would recommend negotiating that upfront with virtually any Thai P4 P girl except for some girls (but not all) working in the BJ Bars. IMO, you would not be giving yourself away as a "newbie" to do so. Otherwise, the percentage of times the girl will think you only mean licking around the edges, slipping it into her mouth for a moment or two and then moving on to finish with Full Service or whatever or, worse, the times when the girl will dodge your cum at the moment of truth and run to the toilet to hack, cough and near vomit out the tiniest bit of semen that inadvertently touched her lips before she dodged it might be depressingly higher than you ever experienced in the Dominican Republican / Columbia.
Sure, there will be some Thai P4 P girls who understand what you mean when you talk about a "blowjob"; that you mean a real blowjob that finishes with you cumming fully into her mouth and not into the air while she gives you a handjob finish. But there are a LOT of Thai girls, especially in Pattaya in my experience, who are used to guys giving them credit for giving a "blowjob" when in fact the only thing they have ever done with any of them in that regard is to lick around the edges and slip it into their mouth for a moment before putting a condom on it and moving on to something else.
Hi,
I have done most of the mongering in Dominican republic and Colombia. Where I always has to negotiate for BBBJ with girls before the session. My question is that in Thailand do I have to negotiate with girls for BBBJ, if yes then would they understand in English or I have to find a way to translate. This would be same for GOGO girls, beer bar or FL's or different for different girl.
Thanks for the info.
Cheers.I don't negotiate before hand. I have not had a covered BJ for many years. All BBBJ. I don't try to get CIM very often. Plenty of Thai girls are not into CIM. PSE massage shops should do CIM.
Some bargirls (fortunately few) are not very keen to do a BJ at all, and will try to get out of it. If dick is not small and they are not used to doing it all the time, the girl may have jaw ache problems and may find that dick sucking does not appeal to her. Some girls who reluctantly are giving a BBBJ, may give a very bad one. Shallow, too hard and too much teeth, while strangling the base of your dick with her hand. So there are no guarantees about the skill level of the girl. Pick a more experienced girl is best bet.
Thai girls don't want to suck smelly dicks, so this could be a reason for girls wanting CBJ. I don't have this problem, but I hear girl gossip.
I have been to Soi 6 last visit and certainly had a great session with a girl. I always wonder. Do the bars at Soi 6 also test the girls for STDs like the good gogos and Rasputin and all or. Are they not checked at all?The girls at the "good gogo's" usually pay 100 baht for a piece of paper that says they've been tested each month. I was with one last week who admitted they all do it and she hadn't actually been tested this year.
LittleBigMan
12-14-15, 11:51
Interesting question but I'd like to expand it by asking if anyone has solid proof that any establishment has the girls checked on a regular basis? I would think the majority leave it up to the girl to care for herself. And even if they show you a piece of paper, how can you be sure its legit?
That being asked, there are certain risks to the hobby and this is one of them.I'm not sure what solid proof is considering this is Thailand. I do know that the Happy Group Go Go, requires all their girls to be checked once a month. I've on two occasions accompany a number of girls the last two years early morning down to a lab in Naklau, North Pattaya for them to get check. While waiting for the results we head to a local place for lunch. Now as noted I have no idea how legit and stuff this is Thailand, but I've seen the test results document that they must turn into the club. I've myself had a number of annual test done at the lab with English translation. Just my opinion, I do not think places like Soi 6, requires any checking but would not be surprise if the group of Expats that owes a number of places on this Soi might require it? A number of years ago I narrowed it down to 2 girls on this strip that gave me a small problem. I would not be surprise that Beer Bars would be any different? The education level and expense would prevent many from checking?
Soldierb11
12-14-15, 16:34
The girls at the "good gogo's" usually pay 100 baht for a piece of paper that says they've been tested each month. I was with one last week who admitted they all do it and she hadn't actually been tested this year.LOL, funny story Cusland, I am not surprised that quite a few girls do this. My guess is most of the Soi 6 places have a similar testing process in place and it is just for show.
To the original poster if you are worried about STDs from these girls probably a good idea to just put a condom on when fucking a Thai prostitute instead of asking about her test papers.
Just to clarify, Chotu. When you say, "BBBJ", are you talking about mere uncovered oral foreplay before moving on to some other sexual act for the finish or are you talking about an uncovered blowjob with a genuine blowjob finish; meaning a Cum in Mouth finish? Due to the short cut abbreviations most of read and use on the 'net (BJ, BBBJ, BBBJ CIM, etc.), a bit of a Tower of Babel has been constructed around what actually does and does not constitute a "blowjob" in the P4 P industry these days. I am not familiar with how things go in the Dominican Republic and Columbia, so I didn't know which you were talking about exactly. It seemed to me you might be talking about a real blowjob with a real CIM finish and not mere oral foreplay. Is that correct?
If you are talking about mere oral foreplay, then I would agree with pretty much everything that has been said about it up to now.
However, if you are talking about a real blowjob with a real blowjob finish, which by my standards and possibly by Dominican Republic / Columbia standards means the girl sucks your dick to completion and you cum fully into her mouth before she stops sucking it (the only decision at that point being if the girl will "spit or swallow") then I would recommend negotiating that upfront with virtually any Thai P4 P girl except for some girls (but not all) working in the BJ Bars. IMO, you would not be giving yourself away as a "newbie" to do so. Otherwise, the percentage of times the girl will think you only mean licking around the edges, slipping it into her mouth for a moment or two and then moving on to finish with Full Service or whatever or, worse, the times when the girl will dodge your cum at the moment of truth and run to the toilet to hack, cough and near vomit out the tiniest bit of semen that inadvertently touched her lips before she dodged it might be depressingly higher than you ever experienced in the Dominican Republican / Columbia.
Sure, there will be some Thai P4 P girls who understand what you mean when you talk about a "blowjob"; that you mean a real blowjob that finishes with you cumming fully into her mouth and not into the air while she gives you a handjob finish. But there are a LOT of Thai girls, especially in Pattaya in my experience, who are used to guys giving them credit for giving a "blowjob" when in fact the only thing they have ever done with any of them in that regard is to lick around the edges and slip it into their mouth for a moment before putting a condom on it and moving on to something else.Just oral uncovered Blowjob before moving to real stuff (I am not into CIM). The reason behind asking this question because in last two years more than few times in Colombia and DR girls start declining uncovered blowjob because of health reason. SO now when I am in DR or Columbia I make this part of my negotiation.
Hello fellow mongers,
This post could serve as a preview for newbies and general nostalgia for the rest.
Starting off with a true story to get you in the mood. My first trip was a blast Dec 2013, back when Harem was on a side alley my friends and I spent more than a lions share of our evenings there, got familiar with the girls and did the deeds. On my 2nd visit, I walked into the new Harem and found a weakness of mine, great face, great rack, widest hips / ass but proportioned enough to come of as chunk and not fat, more of Kim Kardashian or amber rose than other wealth of girl in Pattaya. I called her over for drinks and pole dance in front of me. Being four eyed, I could not resist the invite of her pussy and her thunder thighs. I dove in and boom, not my load but the sound of my glasses getting crushed in her thighs! Thankfully left ASAP and got spares from my room and returned to barfine her and get back (get on her back) at her. Took her to insomnia with a few girls my friends BF'ed, she got too drunk slept before anything in bed and I woke her up in the middle to at least salvage 1 pop before sleeping. Not the best, but a memorable story much better told and animated in person.
I have been gearing up for my upcoming trip and about to be my third consecutive Christmas to Jan 5 trip to Pattaya. The changes I saw last year were simply the saddest and horrifying scenes, it was as watching my mecca, Walking Street having spots replaced by jewelry and garment stores. However as I prepare for another trip, it still is the most boner-rific place on earth and me and the little one are excited to visit. My friends and I were planning on visiting during Songkran for purely mongering purposes and thankfully, the forums have spoken in denial.
Some rules of mongering in Pattaya I made.
1) Never ever ever step into a Russian gogo / strip bar! Get your ogling and bird watching done from the outside.
2) For shows, angel witch, Bacarra, pay the entrance fee and enjoy the shows. On my last trip I went there with one of my most expensive LT buys, another chunk material from a new gogo bar on WS, I think Skyfall, shows were great, girl got tired after 1 pop and snored:
3) Enjoy live music at Candy Shop and their club upstairs, did a lot of insomnia in my first trip but realized I would save my energy for my room.
4) Used Simon Bar as my kick off close to every Walking Street adventure, paid a visit to LK Metro, Bukhao, Soi 6, ideally devote a few days where you don't step on WS.
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6) I have a local friend along with whom we pretend to pick occupations to sell girls on and the intrigue of mamasans, however, he too knows, his true worth is in finding grass.
7) I always negotiate, my friend chooses otherwise and waits till the morning after but being a local he feels confident girls won't turn the tables on him. I get in my eye candy from gogo and coyotes but settle for a bar girl, Simon bar even at wee hours is a great source and you still have your off the WS bars.
A couple things I haven't experienced yet and would like to open the table for suggestions and tips.
A) A freelance girl from Ibar / I club or Candy Shop, I haven't been able to move on from the smile exchanges, these aren't smoke shows but the wallet becomes happy when the score is decent and damage low.
B) Anyone ever had an exchange with African girls there? I've seen them around but never stepped up and taken action, secondly Indian girls who dance in those Indian bars? Haven't heard much chatter of the latter but African girls? Open for suggestions.
Good luck.
Happy mongering.
Hope to unknowingly share a drink with any fellow posters who will be there during the time.
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Hi my dear ISGians,
I am planning to visit Pattaya in first week of March-2016 . My visit is purely mongering and enjoy all the babes sky is the limit. Need information about very good quality girls in the range of 10000 Bh or $300 dollars for night. I will stay there for four nights then to Bangkok for 2 days. Want to know how Indians are treated there and availability of CIS girls and European girls. Please suggest me a good hotel near to walking street in the range of $100. I love BBBJ and where can I get good quality of babes who do BBBJ. Need information from all respected seniors. Please help me.
Hey guys,
I read like 6 pages but sorry for not going any deeper.
I was wondering what's the average price for a hour or night stay for a bar girl and a street girl?
Thanks
Gin And Tonic
12-17-15, 05:19
Hi my dear ISGians,
I am planning to visit Pattaya in first week of March-2016 . My visit is purely mongering and enjoy all the babes sky is the limit. Need information about very good quality girls in the range of 10000 Bh or $300 dollars for night. I will stay there for four nights then to Bangkok for 2 days. Want to know how Indians are treated there and availability of CIS girls and European girls. Please suggest me a good hotel near to walking street in the range of $100. I love BBBJ and where can I get good quality of babes who do BBBJ. Need information from all respected seniors. Please help me.Indians still unwanted in many clubs because of well earned cheapo reputation. Try Moscow maybe.
SirWilliam4
12-17-15, 06:26
Hi my dear ISGians,
I am planning to visit Pattaya in first week of March-2016 . My visit is purely mongering and enjoy all the babes sky is the limit. Need information about very good quality girls in the range of 10000 Bh or $300 dollars for night. I will stay there for four nights then to Bangkok for 2 days. Want to know how Indians are treated there and availability of CIS girls and European girls. Please suggest me a good hotel near to walking street in the range of $100. I love BBBJ and where can I get good quality of babes who do BBBJ. Need information from all respected seniors. Please help me.When you ask about CIS girls -- and about how Indians are treated in Pattaya -- you have just announced to the entire community that you have not yet done one bit of reading in this forum. I suggest you do that before you get jumped on for your questions. Then, when you can ask better questions, you'll find folks quite willing to help you.
SW4.
Hey guys,
I read like 6 pages but sorry for not going any deeper.
I was wondering what's the average price for a hour or night stay for a bar girl and a street girl?
ThanksYou must be totally exhausted. Maybe you should take a nice long nap and then try reading a few more pages. Don't over exert yourself.
Eric The Prick
12-18-15, 07:07
Been to Bangkok for three nights and will be in Pattaya for a week before home to Oz. Found Bangkok not as interesting as before, though I still prefer it to Pattaya, for its greater variety of activities. But the girls in Bangkok seemed worse in quality and, more importantly, enthusiasm. Been to Tulip and the usual gogo bars in Soi Cowboy and Nana. Cannot find Rainbow 4 anymore (but that may be my mistake. Not sure here). Mandarin is still good but I do not recognise some of the new bars. Spent more time in Soi Cowboy this time, especially in Baccarat, Susie Wong and Crazy House. Love the pussy watching in these places, especially all nude, pussy-in-the-face set up in Crazy House. Found the girls a bit more pushy for LDs. May be time is harder, though the bars are packed. Need to go up the third floor sometimes in Crazy House.
Previously I found mongering in Pattaya a bit more time consuming, and I do not like to spend overnighter with the girls. But this time, I am really impressed with the effort and enthusiasm of the girls. Last night in Soi LK, been to Amethyst (good as a starter, after a couple of years' absence), Showgirls (lots of naked syts, OK show), Ninja (interesting, with some girls so beautiful that I am too frightened to fuck! No one pushy for LDs; great for watching thru the night), and Destiny (with many mature fuckable girls with great asses). The girls all put lots into their dance. I had a great evening and will continue tonight, aiming to barfine some syt.
Cannot stand the Walking Street anymore, with too many Chinese tourist groups. I am not racist here, as I am from similar background, but they change the sexy feel of the Street. For me personally anyway. Will stay around Soi LK in the evening.
Central Festival Mall is as good as ever. Saw the new Star Wars movie and the foodcourt at the basement is always good for a quick meal and people watching. Weather is good and not extreme.
Pattaya is relaxing and even heathy. With not much to do in the morning (I am not into [CodeWord121] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord121), not that sort of water anyway), so I walk along the beach a bit. Good exercise, on top of the horizontal jogoing in the evening.
Took the Bell Bus from Bangkok and like the service. Cannot find LK The Empress on their hotel list when booking the return trip, so may have to take a taxis back. Never mind.
More to come if I find anything else to report.
Chaos.
Banana Boi
12-18-15, 07:26
Cannot stand the Walking Street anymore, with too many Chinese tourist groups. I am not racist here, as I am from similar background, but they change the sexy feel of the Street.My gogo girls and I joined one of the groups for fun. We had some good laughs.
Enter WS off 2nd Road on to Soi Diamond and you won't see them. The tour groups don't hit the side streets.
If you haven't been here is awhile, new places abound. I recently took a buddy further to North Pattaya and Naklua. He had never been that far up. New bars, cleaner streets / sidewalks (the walkways were previously all gravel, dirt, etc.), and new girls.
In the whole LK Metro area, including Soi Buakhao, there are also new bars. Sport bars, bars with girls, and new gogos. Plenty of new faces all around. Got to love it.I've been to Pattaya and Jomtien several times but never but past north Pattaya road. Can you give some highlight destinations up there so I can give it a try. Coming mid January.
Thanks
LittleBigMan
12-18-15, 13:27
My gogo girls and I joined one of the groups for fun. We had some good laughs.
Enter WS off 2nd Road on to Soi Diamond and you won't see them. The tour groups don't hit the side streets.Not always true at time? Some of the Chinese tour groups were using this exact location as a gather location while they waited for their bus?
Hi my dear ISGians,
I am planning to visit Pattaya in first week of March-2016 . My visit is purely mongering and enjoy all the babes sky is the limit. Need information about very good quality girls in the range of 10000 Bh or $300 dollars for night. I will stay there for four nights then to Bangkok for 2 days. Want to know how Indians are treated there and availability of CIS girls and European girls. Please suggest me a good hotel near to walking street in the range of $100. I love BBBJ and where can I get good quality of babes who do BBBJ. Need information from all respected seniors. Please help me.It would help if you RTFF and please-please get a bit of confidence. Why would you say "respected seniors".
Indians are despised. Period. I say this as an Indian, albeit one who is mistaken for another nationality, so I personally haven't faced an issue. However, I make it a point to be nice, at times allowing girls to take advantage, and make it a point to mention I'm Indian. My two bits for improving the image of fellow countrymen. Please enjoy yourself but remember to be extra nice to compensate for the hordes of uneducated idiots who have systematically been screwing up the reputation of the entire race.
Sorry for ranting, but it gets really painful when you get incredulous looks and nasty stories about your fellows when you tell 'them you're Indian. Not just in Thailand but everywhere in the world.
Even this forum has a nasty, embarrassing banner on India pages!
Crocodilexp
12-18-15, 16:40
I am planning to visit Pattaya in first week of March-2016 . My visit is purely mongering and enjoy all the babes sky is the limit. Need information about very good quality girls in the range of 10000 Bh or $300 dollars for night. I will stay there for four nights then to Bangkok for 2 days. Want to know how Indians are treated there and availability of CIS girls and European girls. I love BBBJ and where can I get good quality of babes who do BBBJ. If your budget is $300/ night and you like white girls, go to Moscow, Kiev or Germany. Seriously, you'll find way more in that price range, even with the airfare / hotel get a better deal.
Ex-Soviet girls in Thailand are either old used up hags who cannot get customers elsewhere (mostly Central Asian) or ripoff eye candy who won't give you a great experience no matter how much you pay.
If you're in Bangkok, check out the Rajah hotel (Sukhumwit Soi 4) for the Caucasian women. About $100/ pop, not an amazing deal and not overnight, but tolerable looks.
For BBBJs, the obvious choice are the BJ bars (Soi 6 in Pattaya or Lo Lee Tas / Star of Light in Bangkok).
Lone Punter
12-18-15, 16:58
2 months ago I met an exceptional spinner at the Ruby Club, one of the most busiest bars on the soi where gems might be difficult to spot. I had a terrific time with Bee (thai name Pheung), a cuty of barely 36 kilos, beautiful killerbody. Usually I'm not enthousiastic about silicon boobs but her B-cups were amazing on that petite lady. She was very pleasant to talk to before action already, essential for any good session to get connected first. Missed the opportunity to see her again and now anxious that she might be gone when I return in February. Anyone familiar with that joint knows if she's still around, her badge might be number 10 but no more sure about that. Some noble gent let me know that I can relax, thanks!
Lone Punter
Blanquiceleste
12-18-15, 19:37
Even this forum has a nasty, embarrassing banner on India pages!They still don't learn, do they?
They still don't learn, do they?Its "us" and not "they" for me!
I don't like the stereotyping that goes on here, and frankly, some folks are outright racists. However, I do understand why it happens, and absolutely detest the poorly dressed, smelly, argumentative, loud Indian who is responsible for creating the stereotype.
But for fucks sake, its a country of over 1. 2 billion! Not everybody is the same!
Mr Enternational
12-19-15, 09:39
But for fucks sake, its a country of over 1. 2 billion! Not everybody is the same!LOL. My girlfriend in the States is Indian from Mumbai. She has been there 4 years. She seems to think all Indian men are the same. No manners she says. I am on your side of the argument though. Surely everyone could not be that way. But I guess the Thai people have seen that side so often that they have put things off limits to all.
The rude and thieving Chinese may be joining the list next.
Uncle Volodya
12-19-15, 09:49
2 months ago I met an exceptional spinner at the Ruby Club, one of the most busiest bars on the soi where gems might be difficult to spot. I had a terrific time with Bee (thai name Pheung), a cuty of barely 36 kilos, beautiful killerbody. Usually I'm not enthousiastic about silicon boobs but her B-cups were amazing on that petite lady. She was very pleasant to talk to before action already, essential for any good session to get connected first. Missed the opportunity to see her again and now anxious that she might be gone when I return in February. Anyone familiar with that joint knows if she's still around, her badge might be number 10 but no more sure about that. Some noble gent let me know that I can relax, thanks!
Lone PunterI was there last night, but don't recall seeing a girl that looked like that. Have you checked their FB page. ? (Just google Ruby Club Pattaya) They are pretty good about posting most of the girls.
Uncle Volodya
12-19-15, 10:02
I had a great time at Ruby last night. Went there with the idea of finally having a romp with Malee, whom I have been obsessing about for the last few months LOL. She si a very popular girls and even has her own thread on one of the other boards.
But I did not really find her to my tastes. A bit more junk in the trunk than I like and a little darker too. But she was very sweet and fun to talk to. She had no problem finding customers and hooked a very nice Turkish guy.
For my part I discovered an absolute stunner, Goi. New girl, not much English, but super sweet and a great body. Lovely silky thighs and perfect ass and really nicely shaped small breasts. She had the kind of look that I was fixated on with Malee. Only a much better version IMHO.
Ruby girls all seem to have a particular look. Kind of "sexy farmer's daughter": Nice plump thighs and butts jiggling out of short shorts. If you are a thigh and ass man this is heaven.
It took me about 2 seconds to decide I wanted to take her up to the "loom". We started of great, however, some weird shit went down in the room next door. Apparently one of the customers was hurting the girl and had to be thrown out of the bar. A lot of yelling and screaming and the manager was firm and did a good job getting rid of that asshole. I hope his dick falls off the fucker! These girls are angels and deserve to be treated with kindness and respect.
Anyhow, it did not kill our vibe and we had a lovely session once the drama died down. She was sweet and patient and let me take my time. A real GFE and a real gem of a girl. Treat her nice guys.
Afterwards we went down and partied with Malee and her Turkish temp BF. Great guy and fun to talk to. Plenty of shots all around. We bought a ton of those mini fire crackers that pop when they hit the ground and the girls had fun throwing them at each other and passer bys. All the while I had my arms around Goi and was caressing those silky thighs and firm meaty butt. From time to time she'd give me a little snog. Fresh off the farm she is not a big kisser but we did make out a little bit which was nice. I think she will come around to DFKing with a little practice, but it is not their custom up in Issan and she needs a little time to get used to it.
All in all good times! Three cheers for Ruby! THE best bar on the Six!
I never got the story about what happened with the asshole customer. We were drunk and in a great mood and soon forgot about it. Also Goi's English is so bad that we really could only communicate in the most rudimentary way and she could not explain what happened, just that everything was OK. I don't think she even really knows numbers, as we communicated our ages by hand.
LoverboyJerico
12-19-15, 15:46
The Telephone Bar is open and running as same as before! I had read reports here that its closed and another sister concern is operating in Soi lengkee, but it is open and I have been told it was never closed. However, I find this a problem every time, that as punter who have been there already know, the place has plenty of CCTV Cameras. That is a shit that bothers me too much. The girls say its for their boss to see if they work and other stuff. And I'm sure that might even be the case. However, its a concern. Whats your thoughts about it guys!!
LoverboyJerico
12-19-15, 15:54
Well, I was in Pattaya last week and I went to sensations, Happy a GOGO, peppermint and Baccara. Reportedly places Indians are not well treated. However, I felt nothing like that. I certainly know how to throw money on the faces of the Thai, and that's the only thing that matters in Pattaya. Yes, not to mention that I have always been a gentleman and have respected all kinds of people, especially ladies, so, I have never experienced any trouble. Also to say, I was given such VIP treatment in Happy A gogo as I had booked a VIP table that not even many of the people who came from the so called welcome countries in Thailand, were getting. Its all about how you carry yourself and how much you carry in your wallet. My advice to Indian. Get a big fat wallet, and yes, always remember, money is not an excuse for misbehavior. But don't worry, you won't be left out just because you are Indian if you know how to get in!!
LOL. My girlfriend in the States is Indian from Mumbai. She has been there 4 years. She seems to think all Indian men are the same. No manners she says. I am on your side of the argument though. Surely everyone could not be that way. But I guess the Thai people have seen that side so often that they have put things off limits to all.
The rude and thieving Chinese may be joining the list next.
Its "us" and not "they" for me!
I don't like the stereotyping that goes on here, and frankly, some folks are outright racists. However, I do understand why it happens, and absolutely detest the poorly dressed, smelly, argumentative, loud Indian who is responsible for creating the stereotype.
But for fucks sake, its a country of over 1. 2 billion! Not everybody is the same!I agree with you, too much stereotyping going in the forum and some of it plain racist. We should stick to hobbying and leave the Indians alone. They will figure it out in due time.
Banana Boi
12-19-15, 23:35
I agree with you, too much stereotyping going in the forum and some of it plain racist. We should stick to hobbying and leave the Indians alone. They will figure it out in due time.It's not just stereotyping against Indians. There's a lot of stereotyping on here against Japanese that they all spend tons and jack up the prices bla bla bla. I didn't notice this when I was at Baccara BKK. Very few of the Japanese guys even had girls with them. In the German forums, it's how Japanese guys cum in less than 3 minutes and the girls can flip a client in less than 10 minutes, so its why they garner the attention of all the FKK girls.
The rude and thieving Chinese may be joining the list next.
Are the Chinese in Pattaya stealing from the girls, businesses, or tourists?
Oddly enough we all "see" what we want. the only really rude people I "saw" were drunken caucasian men in gogo clubs.
Mr Enternational
12-20-15, 00:56
Are the Chinese in Pattaya stealing from the girls, businesses, or tourists?
Oddly enough we all "see" what we want. the only really rude people I "saw" were drunken caucasian men in gogo clubs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2fbj3hepoE
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/879506-three-chinese-arrested-at-suvarnabhumi-airport-on-theft-charges/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJzmoGgryUY&feature=youtu.be
http://www.thenational.ae/world/thailands-love-hate-relationship-with-chinese-tourists
Banana Boi
12-20-15, 01:05
WTF he kicks the cage of a baby tiger. If I was there I would have pounded that guy and become a National Thai hero.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2fbj3hepoE
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/879506-three-chinese-arrested-at-suvarnabhumi-airport-on-theft-charges/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJzmoGgryUY&feature=youtu.be
http://www.thenational.ae/world/thailands-love-hate-relationship-with-chinese-touristsI remember a story from a few years back where a Chinese kid wrote "I was here" on an ancient Egyptian pyramid.
In the German forums, it's how Japanese guys cum in less than 3 minutes and the girls can flip a client in less than 10 minutes, so its why they garner the attention of all the FKK girls s.FKK girls fuck 20 times a day and prefer Asian clients over Caucasians so they don't get fucked by huge dicks. It's unlikely you'll ever hear of a girl turning down an Asian because his dick is too large. When the girl makes the hj motion but only uses one finger and her thumb you get the impression....
Guys.
I'm went back 15 pages or more and the information was sparse.
I am heading to Pats after NYE and wondering how many good bars there at Soi Bukhao and LK Metro area worth visiting? Are these go-go bars or drinking bars with FLs? Is it too long a stretch to walk and cover these places when bar hopping?
I enjoyed picking up FLs from beach Road more than the walking st scene last time around and want to check out other options this time.
I read about a Billabong bar in LK metro - curious how many such bars are there in this place all within a half km walk?
Cheers.
P.
Wolvenvacht
12-20-15, 13:07
I remember a story from a few years back where a Chinese kid wrote "I was here" on an ancient Egyptian pyramid.Inside the Great Pyramid are a lot of graffiti. I definitely remember having seen some which were put there by English RAF pilots during the Second World War.
Mr Enternational
12-20-15, 14:09
Inside the Great Pyramid are a lot of graffiti. I definitely remember having seen some which were put there by English RAF pilots during the Second World War.They must have cleaned it up. I was there 9 years ago and there was absolutely nothing. Just some big stone box. They didn't want you to take your camera in so you could show people that is was not worth the price of admission. They caught me trying to sneak mine in but in the midst of them stopping me, my buddy was able to get his through and we got pictures of us inside.
Mr Enternational
12-20-15, 14:28
I am heading to Pats after NYE and wondering how many good bars there at Soi Bukhao and LK Metro area worth visiting? Are these go-go bars or drinking bars with FLs? Is it too long a stretch to walk and cover these places when bar hopping? Good is a subjective term so I won't get into how good the places are. LK Metro is an "L" shaped street. If you walked it from end to end it would take about 4 minutes. Now it is mostly gogos there and maybe 4 or 5 bars. The biggest bar is Billabong, which you mentioned. There are tons of girls at Billabong but most of them are older. Seemed like a girl I know who worked there would go to work whenever she wanted. There are no FL on LK Metro.
Soi Buakhao is a long ass street. I would not walk that. No reason to with baht buses going up and down it. If you did though it will take at least 20 minutes. There are only 2 gogos that I can think of on the street; Oasis and Sugar Sugar. Otherwise it is a normal street with bars, massage parlors, 7/11's, gold shops, restaurants, travel agencies, hair salons, pharmacies, markets, banks, etc. No FL on Soi Buakhao besides lbs that you will see late at night.
Keep in mind that anytime you see women walking down the street you can try to stop them and talk to them and from there see where their head is and find out if they are on the game or not. Just start a normal conversation and go from there just as you would anywhere else in the world.
Guys.
I am heading to Pats after NYE and wondering how many good bars there at Soi Bukhao and LK Metro area worth visiting? Are these go-go bars or drinking bars with FLs? Is it too long a stretch to walk and cover these places when bar hopping?
P.One huge plus for me on the LK Metro streets is that you won't see the masses of tourists roaming the streets. LK Metro is mostly locals who stay in that area. If you haven't seen it, I recommend it.
Mr Enternational
12-20-15, 15:27
WTF he kicks the cage of a baby tiger. If I was there I would have pounded that guy and become a National Thai hero.LOL. And breaking news from the Associated Press:
"The last was a woman who attacked her tour guide with hot tea after learning the price of her son's ticket to a western China scenic site was not included in the package.
The government has grown concerned about the negative impact on China's image stemming from numerous incidents of bad behavior by Chinese tourists at home and abroad,"
http://abcnews.go.com/Weird/wireStory/china-names-shames-tourists-bad-behavior-35856857
Member #4698
12-20-15, 15:56
One huge plus for me on the LK Metro streets is that you won't see the masses of tourists roaming the streets. If you haven't seen it, I recommend it.I concur. If you haven't checked out LK Metro, then do so. The downside, however, is that the LK Metro Go Go's have priced themselves equal to the Walking Street Go Go's which they are not in terms of talent. That is too bad because if they had been a little smarter and set prices 10% to 20% lower, I think they would have been a smash hit.
On my last trip, I visited Kaos (a small Go Go), Showgirls, and Bachelors. Of the three, Showgirls seemed to have the most to offer. I would go back to that place again for sure. But as chance would have it, I met a pretty little 18 year old door girl outside of Bachelors and after striking up a little conversation we went inside for a couple rounds of Tequila. She was a very friendly girl and we DFK'd quite seriously. At first she was reluctant to barfine telling me she had never done it before, but after the 2nd shot of Tequila and a lot more kissing, she changed her mind all on her own and wanted me to barfine her. Go figure - LOL! Back in the "loom" she at first acted tentative and shy like a newbie. She was slow to take off her top for example and her BBBJ skills were very basic, but I was patient with her and my DATY turned her on so we ended up having a very passionate time together. We exchanged Line ID's and she kept messaging me long after I left Pattaya about getting together again. She wanted to come up to BKK to see me and I would have liked to see her again as well, but there were just too many other girls on my rotation and I never had the time to get back with her. That is something that I now kind of regret.
So the bottom line is, definitely check out LK Metro when in Pattaya. Just don't expect the LK Go Go's to be as chock full of goodies as Sapphire, What's Up, Happy or Sensations, the top Walking Street Go Go's IMHO. But, having said that, there are some good girls to be found on LK Metro and they will show you a real good time.
Wolvenvacht
12-20-15, 19:35
They must have cleaned it up. I was there 9 years ago and there was absolutely nothing. Just some big stone box. They didn't want you to take your camera in so you could show people that is was not worth the price of admission. They caught me trying to sneak mine in but in the midst of them stopping me, my buddy was able to get his through and we got pictures of us inside.Not in the central room. It is actually in the steeply sloping corridor between the entrance and the central room. 30 years ago (when I first visited Egypt) they had wooden steps installed there.
And you are entirely right: there is nothing worthwhile to see inside the Geeat Pyramid.
Hi guys,
I am going to Pattaya in the end of January.
How much do you normally give in tips if you like / don't like the girls.
I guess ST & LT is different.
I like also going to places like Soi 6 in day time, do you think the rooms upstairs are safe or do you normally take them back to hotel?
I concur. If you haven't checked out LK Metro, then do so.
One huge plus for me on the LK Metro streets is that you won't see the masses of tourists roaming the streets. LK Metro is mostly locals who stay in that area. If you haven't seen it, I recommend it.
Good is a subjective term so I won't get into how good the places are. LK Metro is an "L" shaped street. If you walked it from end to end it would take about 4 minutes. Now it is mostly gogos there and maybe 4 or 5 bars. The biggest bar is Billabong, which you mentioned. There are tons of girls at Billabong but most of them are older. Seemed like a girl I know who worked there would go to work whenever she wanted. There are no FL on LK Metro.
Soi Buakhao is a long ass street. I would not walk that. No reason to with baht buses going up and down it. If you did though it will take at least 20 minutes. There are only 2 gogos that I can think of on the street; Oasis and Sugar Sugar. Otherwise it is a normal street with bars, massage parlors, 7/11's, gold shops, restaurants, travel agencies, hair salons, pharmacies, markets, banks, etc. No FL on Soi Buakhao besides lbs that you will see late at night.
Keep in mind that anytime you see women walking down the street you can try to stop them and talk to them and from there see where their head is and find out if they are on the game or not. Just start a normal conversation and go from there just as you would anywhere else in the world.Thank you Guys! A Free Beer on me if we bump into each other the next two weeks. I head to BKK tonight then off to HKT and Pats later.
Cheers.
Wolvenvacht
12-21-15, 08:01
Hi guys,
I am going to Pattaya in the end of January.
How much do you normally give in tips if you like / don't like the girls.
I guess ST & LT is different.
I like also going to places like Soi 6 in day time, do you think the rooms upstairs are safe or do you normally take them back to hotel?Please keep in mind that Thailand is not a "tipping country". That beng said, an LT girl that performed well gets a few hundered baht extra from me unless she has already received a few ladydrinks (on which she got a nice commission).
For ST "soi 6" sessions, one hundred is really enough.
What do you mean with "the rooms upstairs are safe"? I have never had a problem, although the stairs to go to the rooms are sometimes badly lighted, very steep or narrow so you should not go there if you are drunk lest you fall.
I don't think Soi 6 girls go with you to your hotel for ST sessions or they may perhaps charge you extra for it. But I really don't know as I have never thought about taking one out. I have always found it a great convenience of Soi 6 that the bars there have a room above the bar. Far less hassle for an ST session.
Hi guys,
I am going to Pattaya in the end of January.
How much do you normally give in tips if you like / don't like the girls.
I guess ST & LT is different.
I like also going to places like Soi 6 in day time, do you think the rooms upstairs are safe or do you normally take them back to hotel?Wether you like the service or not. You pay the agreed upon price. If you refuse to play the girl calls the police and the police will take you down the police station basically until you agree to pay. But sometimes the girl makes a deal with the cop. Now you have to more and the girl will give a percent to the police for helping her.
I will be in Pattaya from December 24 for 5 days. Been there many times, but cannot remember any specific Christmas events or a good place to go for that particular day.
Do any of the Pattaya Veterans know of anything special (event or otherwise) this Christmas Eve and day?
ALSO: If anyone is there later this week and weekend, and wants to grab a beer or do some mongering as a Wingman, send me a PM. All of my buddies couldn't make it this season.
Looking forward to a very Merry Christmas!
-be.
I concur. If you haven't checked out LK Metro, then do so.LK Metro was such a welcome change of pace from from Walking Street. All the chicks at Devil's Den were hideous when I stopped by around 10 pm, but that's another story! But after spending some time in the LK Metro area, I was surprised that we just don't read more about it on ISG. I liked it over there.
I'm in Pattaya since last Thursday and to be honest I can't say I'm having a ball. I'm a Beach Road guy but the quality there is terrible at the moment. Last Friday and Saturday it was slightly better but even then there were only a few doable girls.
I've never liked the beer bars very much. Can't even remember the last time I've set foot in one. Must have been back in 2008 or 2009 I think.
There's still enough eye candy in the gogo's and in recent years I have tried my luck every now and then but it's expensive and I usually didn't get what I paid for.
So I'm depending on my regulars and WeChat. But I don't have many regulars anymore who I really like. My most favorite regular texted me she was not available for the coming 4 weeks. Damn! Found her on Beach Road about 2 years ago, almost hiding behind a palm tree (literally). Shy, sweet, clever, pretty and tall and also horny as hell. One of the best girls I ever had. Don't bother looking behind palm trees though, you won't find her there anymore. She has many returning customers and fucks 1 or 2 on average, daily.
Last Friday a regular, a semi-pro, spotted me sitting at Starbucks but she's my least favorite one. But I was horny and took her to my hotel anyway. She says she's 30 but I think she's in her late thirties. A short BBBJ and a lot of fake moans when I DATY'd her. The good thing is she still has a nice body and tight pussy and allows me to finish inside, but I don't think I will repeat anymore.
Saturday I invited a WeChat contact to come to my hotel. She looked good in her pictures and even better in reality. A 7.5. But there were some bad signs: she turned on the television soon after she came in and she pulled out a big tube of KY from her purse. Once on the bed she insisted on CBJ. WTF? I protest and she asks me how much I can give her extra for BBBJ. I offer 200 and she declines. I didn't want to offer more because of the other bad signs and sent her away with 100 Baht.
I invited another WeChat contact and she looked better in her pictures than in reality. But she was certainly doable and a nice girl and we had a good session. Nothing to write home about but simply a decent session.
Sunday I invited a promising looking massage girl from Soi Buakhao. Her face was an 8 but unfortunately her body had lost the battle against overweight many years ago already I'm afraid. Nevertheless she gave me a good massage, a good BBBJ and satisfactory CFS. But I will not repeat.
And yesterday I invited a waitress on her day off. Cute girl, looks better in reality than in her pics. 36 yo but looks 26. No children and a firm body with some baby fat. Very shy, minimal English and very sweet. A star fish in bed however but I blame that on her shyness and lack of experience (with P4 P I mean). She's texting me all the time now and wants to repeat but I'm not so sure about that yet.
So until now it's all, well: meh. Pattaya just doesn't do it for me anymore I'm afraid. But I have said that to myself more often in recent years and still I kept coming back. Because there were always a couple of girls worth coming back for.
Like the girl I ran into on my way to Beach Road this morning. A lovely young cutie from Korat, only in town for one day to make some money. Skinny but very sweet and attractive and she gave me good service. It's girls like her that I keep coming back for. But if I can't find any more girls like her before the end of this week, when I go back home again, this might as well have been the very last time I was in Pattaya.
IMFITP: it's more fun in the Philippines.
Christian G
12-22-15, 10:28
Pattaya just doesn't do it for me anymore I'm afraid. But I have said that to myself more often in recent years and still I kept coming back. Because there were always a couple of girls worth coming back for.
Man, you have all my sympathy and solidarity. I understand you, in the last 2 trip I feel nearly same you.
Pipe Layer99
12-22-15, 10:44
I will be in Pattaya from December 24 for 5 days. Been there many times, but cannot remember any specific Christmas events or a good place to go for that particular day.
Do any of the Pattaya Veterans know of anything special (event or otherwise) this Christmas Eve and day?
ALSO: If anyone is there later this week and weekend, and wants to grab a beer or do some mongering as a Wingman, send me a PM. All of my buddies couldn't make it this season.
Looking forward to a very Merry Christmas!
-be.Many of the bars will have parties and food. The sports pubs and restaurants also have food specials.
When you get in and unpack, turn on the tv and find the Pattaya news channel. For me it's on Channel 12, although it may be on another channel depending on your area. They always show the special events.
I'm in Pattaya since last Thursday and to be honest I can't say I'm having a ball. I'm a Beach Road guy but the quality there is terrible at the moment. Last Friday and Saturday it was slightly better but even then there were only a few doable girls.
I've never liked the beer bars very much. Can't even remember the last time I've set foot in one. Must have been back in 2008 or 2009 I think.
There's still enough eye candy in the gogo's and in recent years I have tried my luck every now and then but it's expensive and I usually didn't get what I paid for.
So I'm depending on my regulars and WeChat. But I don't have many regulars anymore who I really like. My most favorite regular texted me she was not available for the coming 4 weeks. Damn! Found her on Beach Road about 2 years ago, almost hiding behind a palm tree (literally). Shy, sweet, clever, pretty and tall and also horny as hell. One of the best girls I ever had. Don't bother looking behind palm trees though, you won't find her there anymore..I'm in Pattaya now. I was actually thinking the same thing. Quality is very bad. I was lucky to find a couple hot ones. The picking are very slim. I had some great experiences today. That is what keeps me coming back. I did go to the snake show today for the first time. I loved it and tipped everyone that worked there 100 baut. I got the feeling that was the biggest tip they ever got. Many people don't tip them at all and the most I saw people give them was 20 baut. Regarding the girls in Thailand. I feel the girl quality depends on the month you come. I had a list of girls I met last year that I wanted to see again. I had their line contacts. They all disappeared. So sad.
Banana Boi
12-22-15, 13:09
I'm a Beach Road guy but the quality there is terrible at the moment. Last Friday and Saturday it was slightly better but even then there were only a few doable girls.Ok so it's not just me. I was questioning those picking up Beach Road girls. Very few under 25 or attractive.
So until now it's all, well: meh. Pattaya just doesn't do it for me anymore I'm afraid. But I have said that to myself more often in recent years and still I kept coming back. Because there were always a couple of girls worth coming back for.
Like the girl I ran into on my way to Beach Road this morning. A lovely young cutie from Korat, only in town for one day to make some money. Skinny but very sweet and attractive and she gave me good service. It's girls like her that I keep coming back for. But if I can't find any more girls like her before the end of this week, when I go back home again, this might as well have been the very last time I was in Pattaya.
IMFITP: it's more fun in the Philippines.We've all been saying this about Pattaya for well over a decade. It just keeps getting worse. However, realistically, the rest of the world is still much worse. I am intrigued by your Philippines statement, however. I've only been to Angeles & Manila, and only a few times, but it seemed pretty horrible compared to Pattaya.
Crocodilexp
12-22-15, 18:33
So until now it's all, well: meh. Pattaya just doesn't do it for me anymore I'm afraid. But I have said that to myself more often in recent years and still I kept coming back. Because there were always a couple of girls worth coming back for.
I used to love Beach Road too, and have felt roughly the same for several years. An occasional fun girl can still be found, but pickings are slim, and looks grim compared to 2012 and earlier. For me, the sidewalk reconstruction has destroyed it, making it difficult for both girls and punters to casually sit along Beach Road.
Unfortunately, there's still no better mongering place than Pattaya, even in its notably diminished state, especially for those like me who prefer to walk around and take their pick at the lower end (rather than drinking or frequenting closed venues like large "massage" parlors).
Opebo is right, Pattaya is crap compared to its former state, but there's still no overall better place anywhere it seems.
After Pattaya, Angeles City did not impress much, and Manila even less so. Jakarta is fascinating, but little of the action is out in the open (plenty in "hotels" and other enclosed venues), and much seems mafia-controlled.
Ok so it's not just me. I was questioning those picking up Beach Road girls. Very few under 25 or attractive.I cannot tell the age of Asian chicks, but I am pretty sure I picked up a few girls in their early 20's. This was back in October. Now, with respect to attractiveness, I found Beach road chicks as good as the lower 80% GoGo girls.
However, my favorite from that trip was a GoGo chick from Airline.
I cannot tell the age of Asian chicks, but I am pretty sure I picked up a few girls in their early 20's. This was back in October. Now, with respect to attractiveness, I found Beach road chicks as good as the lower 80% GoGo girls.
However, my favorite from that trip was a GoGo chick from Airline.One fine and lightly breezy evening, I walked the entire length of Beach Road from like Soi 2 all the way back to Walking Street. From about the location of the Hard Rock Hotel down to Walking Street there were street tutes standing so many feet apart. Most of them were quite unattractive, and several of them were obvious lady boys. I only saw one who I thought was cute, and she was busy fiddling around with her cell phone. I kept it moving. Unfortunately, the majority of the pretty Thai girls I saw along Beach Road were of the non-P4P variety out with family and friends taking an evening stroll or just sitting and having something to eat and drink. As a monger, it was interesting to have the experience of seeing Beach Road in Pattaya, but I had no desire to partake. Overall, the "talent" was simply abysmal and well below my exacting standards, particularly for Asian women. But wow! From Bangkok to Phuket to Pattaya man did I see and do a lot in Thailand! Not to mention all of the "normal" tourism I did as well LOL! And even still, I didn't get to do everything that I wanted to do. I think a newbie would need a solid month in order to have adequate time to explore everything to one's heart's content.
Banana Boi
12-23-15, 04:52
Now, with respect to attractiveness, I found Beach road chicks as good as the lower 80% GoGo girls.
Agree with that but hopefully we would all go for the top 1% (in our mind anyways) in the gogo club.
We've all been saying this about Pattaya for well over a decade. It just keeps getting worse. However, realistically, the rest of the world is still much worse. I am intrigued by your Philippines statement, however. I've only been to Angeles & Manila, and only a few times, but it seemed pretty horrible compared to Pattaya.IMHO the bar / gogo scene in the Philippines isn't any better than in Pattaya, or even worse. Although Manila seems to be better than Angeles according to some mongers but also more expensive and apart from that I hate the city.
The FL and chat apps scene however is great in the Philippines. It's very easy to make contact with sweet young cuties around 20 yo.
Unfortunately, there's still no better mongering place than Pattaya, even in its notably diminished state, SNIP I agree. It's so easy to book a flight and get here. Much easier and cheaper than to get to Angeles for example (for me anyway, from Amsterdam). Transport, infrastructure, food, the beach (for the fresh air, not for swimming), the abundance of girls, it's all so much better. But slowly but surely, year after year, the quality of the girls has gone down and is still going down and I think it has reached a point now that I soon will say: 'That's it, I've had enough. From now on it's only the Phils for me. ' And maybe Vietnam also.
Eric Swiss
12-23-15, 07:47
It was pretty late when I rolled into my favorite haunt, Insomnia. I grabbed a beer and went around, but found nobody to my liking. Every girl had pretty much hooked up with some guy, except for a few tables with a gaggle of girls waiting for a customer.
I took the back staircase down and went around the I-bar. Near the water I found an empty table and just stood there, waiting for something to happen. That was a big mistake, and it nearly cost me a f*ck. The reason is that the excitement and the pretty girls were closer to the front (Walking Street side), as I found out when I walked out with my date-for-the-night. So you see, I did manage to hook up, as I will explain below. But learn from my mistake, and give the downstairs bar the same grand tour exploration that you would give the upstairs disco, for otherwise you might be missing something hot.
Anyway, after about 20 minutes of drinking my beer at the table near the water, I was ready to walk out. I pass by this table of 3 girls: one with short hair (what a waste of beauty!) An older woman who was clearly the group leader and acted as mamasan, and a cute chick of about 24. I liked her face, I liked her smile, I liked her body. Not sure she liked me, probably found me too old, but upon seeing me eye the girl up and down as I was walking past, the mamasan forcibly grabbed me at the elbow and threw me her way. All of the action took less than one second! But from then on it was all pre-ordained.
She said her name was Som. She was from Bangkok. Sukhumvit. Soi 4. Nana. So she's a h00 ker on vacation in Pattaya. And what does a h00 ker do on vacation? Hook! The mind boggles.
Anyway, we agreed on 1500 Baht for one hour. Probably overpriced, but as I was planning to "love her long time", I. E. , more than 5 minutes, I thought it would ensure compliance. And so it did. But I'm getting ahead of my story.
As we walked out, my elbow "accidentally" touched her bosom, and felt something very hard and unnatural. Not silicone but foam. Not fake tits but lying bra! So I knew I was in for a couple of fried eggs, sunny side up. Lesson number 2: if breast-lover, then accidentally brush bosom before sealing the deal. You will learn so much. Personally I'm an equal-opportunity breast employer. What bothers me is saggy breasts, stretch marks, see-section marks, flabby stomach. She had none of that. Yooohoo!
We went to Oasis and she was very confused by the fact that the shower space has no toilet in it. Clearly the notion that somebody may want to put up a wall between the two is not something she has been forced to consider before. But, bless her soul, she asked me for permission before peeing in my shower, and I gently directed her to the "other" bathroom where such functions must be performed. The one with a toilet.
She spent an inordinate amount of time in there. My best hypothesis is that she was on the rag and used some advanced vag1 na-cleansing technology to wipe out all the menstrual blood for an hour. Reason 1: she was available only "for an hour", whereas most freelancers at I-Bar try to sleep the night in your hotel so they can save room cost and get free breakfast. Reason 2: after I f*cked her (but I'm getting ahead of my story here), the condom was mostly clean, but there was a bit of blood right at the tip. I'm not that long and not that hard that I could have produced that through chafing. Certainly that has not been my experience in the past.
So, reconstructed story: Nana Plaza go-go girl not happy with her job, tries out Pattaya freelance scene while she has "on the rag" vacation. Enlists the help of an older friend who proactively channels a customer to her. I'm the lucky bastard who sampled the goods.
She was pretty hot in bed. No stretch marks. No caesarian marks. Kissing. Never complained that I was taking too long to come. I be*nged her for literally half an hour. Five positions. Missionary repeated countless times with variations. She was not c0 ck-shy.
Only negative is she had a mole on her left ass cheek. Apart from that she was a physically perfect specimen. Obviously, you've got to overlook the Isaan skin tone and the small tits, but I do.
Would I repeat? Well, I didn't take her number. But she is definitely Pattaya material, if she wants to switch jobs.
OK, I originally planned on staying in Pattaya for 1 month. But, after a couple days. I had enough. For this trip at least may have not been the best time to come for girls. Don't get my wrong. Yes, my needs were met and I did find some hot girls everyday. Service was excellent. But, I know what Pattaya can be and it was not the best it could be. The girls on beach street at night were horrible. There were still a lot of girl just not good looking girls. Many business were closed. Selection of hot girls had to be changed to selection of fuckable girls. I twice asked a girl about paying bar fine and getting a short time and at the last minute before paying the house I made and excuse and left. If I'm going to pay close to 2000 baut I better like the girl I'm with. I also wanted to add that I still had a good time and it is hard not to have a good time in Pattaya. It just is not the best I have ever seen it. Many many tourists. Just not many tourists in the bars and not as many girls. I leave today for Chiang Mai.
Pipe Layer99
12-26-15, 14:34
Met a young black 24 yo from Madagascar 2 nights ago in Pattaya. She looked very pretty and had a nice ass. Had an accent but spoke decent english. I think she was walking to the beach because she was headed in that direction. Met her on Soi Diana walking towards kiss restaurant. So if you like chocolate and something different, and you are in that area.
Out of curiosity, I ask her how much. She said 1000 short time.
IMHO the bar / gogo scene in the Philippines isn't any better than in Pattaya, or even worse.
The FL and chat apps scene however is great in the Philippines. It's very easy to make contact with sweet young cuties around 20 yo.Oh I see! Yes I am not a fan of that kind of thing, I only like real honest pros.
Just a quick question, do these cute looking door girls can be taken back to hotel or not?
Thanks.
Gin And Tonic
12-29-15, 20:26
Met a young black 24 yo from Madagascar 2 nights ago in Pattaya. She looked very pretty and had a nice ass. Had an accent but spoke decent english. I think she was walking to the beach because she was headed in that direction. Met her on Soi Diana walking towards kiss restaurant. So if you like chocolate and something different, and you are in that area.
Out of curiosity, I ask her how much. She said 1000 short time.Picked one up on BR tonite. Very good experience. English & French not as good as other Mada girls I have had. Wants 3,000 long time. Maybe for New Years Eve.
Member #4698
12-29-15, 20:28
Just a quick question, do these cute looking door girls can be taken back to hotel or not?Some will and some won't. But there is no harm is flirting with them and asking the one you like if she would like to have a drink with you. I reported on my little fling with an 18 year old door girl from Bachelors Go Go on LK Metro in October. It was a good night. Nice girl. Then there are other door girls that can not leave with a customer for some reason, possibly they are not 18 or possibly their bar forbids them to barfine like the door girls in front of the "Arab's" Go Go's on Soi Cowboy in BKK. I flirt with those girls too becasue they are so damn sexy, but its is a Mexican standoff. I won't go into their bar and they can't come to my hotel room. But they are sexy adorable. That's why the "Arab" pays them to stand outside his bars.
Thanks for the info, I will certainly try and report back.
Some will and some won't. But there is no harm is flirting with them and asking the one you like if she would like to go in their bar and have a drink with you. I reported on my little fling with an 18 year old door girl from Bachelors Go Go on LK Metro in October. It was a good night. Nice girl. Then there are other girls that for some reason, possibly they are not 18 or possibly their bar forbids them to barfine like the door girls in front of the "Arab's" Go Go's on Soi Cowboy in BKK. I flirt with those girls too but its is a Mexican standoff. I won't go into their bar and they won't come to my hotel. But they are sexy adorable. That's why the "Arab" pays them to stand outside his bars.
Gin And Tonic
12-29-15, 20:31
Just a quick question, do these cute looking door girls can be taken back to hotel or not?
Thanks.I asked a very hot, Model type from BKK, into the bar for a drink. She had a dancer friend inside and I took them both home. She was shy when I asked barfine but when I turned it into an offer for both she went for it.
In the past, I took few really hot massage girls back to my hotel, the only issues was I had to wait till they close their shop at 3 am. I've only been to Pattaya once before and I will be going there in Jan, so I was curious as to how to approach this door girls. I suppose taking 2 girls back to the hotel will incure some sort of surchage.
Thanks.
I asked a very hot, Model type from BKK, into the bar for a drink. She had a dancer friend inside and I took them both home. She was shy when I asked barfine but when I turned it into an offer for both she went for it.
I'll be returning to Pattaya in late January and I have a few questions which might be easily answered by the expats living there.
1. What are the internet speeds like at most coffee shops or businesses offering WiFi? Is it awful?
My hotel will have internet, and I remember from last visit that it isn't so bad, but I'd like to take my laptop out with me and work during the day. Any secret spots that have good connectivity?
2. Is the Hooters finished yet? Will it hopefully be finished by the end of January? I love their hot wings. (don't judge me).
3. I've heard of pub crawls but I've never seen how to join one. Where should I go and at what time, if I want to check it out? Is it even worth it?
Last time, I flew solo the entire trip. It got a little boring.
Finally.
4. Will anybody else be visiting at that time?
Hope everyone has a good week.
Hello everyone,
I have a couple of questions the last time I was I Pattaya was in 2009. I went there with 3 buddies and we had a blast. Met a lot of girls and had a couple of GFE, S. And some one nights. As I remember it never felt like prostitution then more flirting and fun before the act. I have bin reading the forum for the last years and the Pattaya I visited back then is, the Pattaya that exist today?. A beer back then was 45-90 bath and I hear that a coke can be 150-200 bath now? I haven't bin able to visit Pattaya because I started a family and had some kids. But from what I read I don't want to go back. Whats happening to Pattaya?
I remember meeting a bargirl and she went with me for free and the next day she showed up at our house whit 3 friends (for my buddies) wanting to party and just have fun. We all hang for days and parted as friends (fuck buddies). And the time we paid for for other girls it wasn't like hard core prostitution more like fun flirting at a price?
Is it really as bad as I read?
Wolvenvacht
12-30-15, 08:33
Hello everyone,
I have a couple of questions the last time I was I Pattaya was in 2009. I went there with 3 buddies and we had a blast. Met a lot of girls and had a couple of GFE, S. And some one nights. As I remember it never felt like prostitution then more flirting and fun before the act. I have bin reading the forum for the last years and the Pattaya I visited back then is, the Pattaya that exist today?. A beer back then was 45-90 bath and I hear that a coke can be 150-200 bath now? I haven't bin able to visit Pattaya because I started a family and had some kids. But from what I read I don't want to go back. Whats happening to Pattaya?
I remember meeting a bargirl and she went with me for free and the next day she showed up at our house whit 3 friends (for my buddies) wanting to party and just have fun. We all hang for days and parted as friends (fuck buddies). And the time we paid for for other girls it wasn't like hard core prostitution more like fun flirting at a price?
Is it really as bad as I read?Mongering prices will have increased if you compare to 2009, but then again price increases are a fact of life and I do not think the price of pussy has kept up with inflation. So pussy-price-wise Pattaya (and Thailand as a whole) is still a very good destination in that respect.
The EUR / USD to Baht exchange rate probably had a larger influence on the real price (in your own currency) that you pay.
Last time I was in Pattaya, I found it still quite congenial. Whether you can pull some freebies is of course akin to a lottery, but I did not see much change in the scene as a whole over the several years I came here. That being said, I'm not a big fan of freebies from girls on The Game. I like to combine a hot sexy GF with some "excursions" into P4 P to spice up my life even more and have some variations. But to each his own, of course.
GFE and PSE is still abundantly available and easy to find and at prices not much more than years ago.
Gin And Tonic
12-30-15, 10:02
Mongering prices will have increased if you compare to 2009, but then again price increases are a fact of life and I do not think the price of pussy has kept up with inflation. So pussy-price-wise Pattaya (and Thailand as a whole) is still a very good destination in that respect.
The EUR / USD to Baht exchange rate probably had a larger influence on the real price (in your own currency) that you pay.
Last time I was in Pattaya, I found it still quite congenial. Whether you can pull some freebies is of course akin to a lottery, but I did not see much change in the scene as a whole over the several years I came here. That being said, I'm not a big fan of freebies from girls on The Game. I like to combine a hot sexy GF with some "excursions" into P4 P to spice up my life even more and have some variations. But to each his own, of course.
GFE and PSE is still abundantly available and easy to find and at prices not much more than years ago.In 2009 long time with a beer bar girl was 1,000 b. You get short time for that now. Say 2-3,000 b long time. A GoGo was 2,000 b long time now more than 2 x that. It doubled in price about 2-3 years ago. A baht bus is still 10 b and a 500 ML of water 7 b so some things remained the same.
Gin And Tonic
12-30-15, 10:08
I'll be returning to Pattaya in late January and I have a few questions which might be easily answered by the expats living there.
1. What are the internet speeds like at most coffee shops or businesses offering WiFi? Is it awful?
My hotel will have internet, and I remember from last visit that it isn't so bad, but I'd like to take my laptop out with me and work during the day. Any secret spots that have good connectivity?
2. Is the Hooters finished yet? Will it hopefully be finished by the end of January? I love their hot wings. (don't judge me).
3. I've heard of pub crawls but I've never seen how to join one. Where should I go and at what time, if I want to check it out? Is it even worth it?
Last time, I flew solo the entire trip. It got a little boring.
Finally.
4. Will anybody else be visiting at that time?
Hope everyone has a good week.The WiFi is not bad and is free except at some of the big chains, shame. About the same as I found my last trip to Canada but slow compared to Vietnam. Hooters should be open by then but a friend reported the Bangkok branch was not as good as back in his home country.
Gin And Tonic
12-30-15, 10:13
In the past, I took few really hot massage girls back to my hotel, the only issues was I had to wait till they close their shop at 3 am. I've only been to Pattaya once before and I will be going there in Jan, so I was curious as to how to approach this door girls. I suppose taking 2 girls back to the hotel will incure some sort of surchage.
Thanks.I asked the friend along because the hot one was timid and I was in my late '50's. Younger guys shouldn't need those ploys. The hotels I stayed at never charged extra. I understand some do.
Member #4399
12-30-15, 14:17
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/crime/810144/russian-kazakhstani-go-go-dancers-arrested-in-pattaya
Mr Enternational
12-30-15, 17:51
a 500 ML of water 7 b so some things remained the same.1 baht for 1 liter if you use the machine!
I suppose taking 2 girls back to the hotel will incure some sort of surchage.Most hotels will not charge you extra if you bring in 1 girl. Many hotels will charge you extra for the second girl. 300-500 Baht extra is unfair. Need to check with the hotel.
2. Is the Hooters finished yet?It is now open.
- Saw something interesting on Pattaya People News (the TV channel). They had a sweep inside some of the go-go bars (Sensations go-go was featured on TV). They said that by Thai law, foreigners were required to carry their passports or a copy. They said they detained and sent 20 foreigners to the police station for not having ID. Carry a copy of your passport!
- Observed many freelancers on Beach Road.
- Traffic is horrible on Beach Road near Walking Street. It goes from 3 lanes to 1.5 lanes on that bend in front of Walking Street. It's because you have cars / songthaews / food carts parked right there before the entrance. So lame. TIA.
Uncle Volodya
12-31-15, 09:28
OK, I originally planned on staying in Pattaya for 1 month. But, after a couple days. I had enough. For this trip at least may have not been the best time to come for girls. Don't get my wrong. Yes, my needs were met and I did find some hot girls everyday. Service was excellent. But, I know what Pattaya can be and it was not the best it could be. The girls on beach street at night were horrible. There were still a lot of girl just not good looking girls. Many business were closed. Selection of hot girls had to be changed to selection of fuckable girls. I twice asked a girl about paying bar fine and getting a short time and at the last minute before paying the house I made and excuse and left. If I'm going to pay close to 2000 baut I better like the girl I'm with. I also wanted to add that I still had a good time and it is hard not to have a good time in Pattaya. It just is not the best I have ever seen it. Many many tourists. Just not many tourists in the bars and not as many girls. I leave today for Chiang Mai.Yes welcome to High Season!
I was also in town the same time. Actually wasn't that bad until after Xmass. When the hordes arrive. Afterwards a nightmare. Compounded by the fact that a lot of girls go back home for New Year's holidays too (AJ from Sex in City says almost 1/3 of his girls left, despite incentiv s he offered them).
I don't know what it is but girls seem to be more business like and less sweet in the high season. Also the super hot ones have their sponsors in town or get snapped up super quick, or are just sick of all the drunken slobs approaching them.
I got the fuck out of dodge and I'm in Saigon Now with my VN GF. But will be back Jan 3. Hopefully things die down and get back to the normal Pattaya we all know and love.
It is now open.
2. Is the Hooters finished yet?
Are you sure GreenBud? I was in Pattaya last week and as far as I could tell from the construction going on it would take at least another month or so to completion.
Acording to the website it will open January 16.
http://www.hooterspattaya.com
Mongering prices will have increased if you compare to 2009, but then again price increases are a fact of life and I do not think the price of pussy has kept up with inflation. So pussy-price-wise Pattaya (and Thailand as a whole) is still a very good destination in that respect.
The EUR / USD to Baht exchange rate probably had a larger influence on the real price (in your own currency) that you pay.
Last time I was in Pattaya, I found it still quite congenial. Whether you can pull some freebies is of course akin to a lottery, but I did not see much change in the scene as a whole over the several years I came here. That being said, I'm not a big fan of freebies from girls on The Game. I like to combine a hot sexy GF with some "excursions" into P4 P to spice up my life even more and have some variations. But to each his own, of course.
GFE and PSE is still abundantly available and easy to find and at prices not much more than years ago.When exactly was your last time in Pattaya? It has changed a lot compared to 2009 and even tremendously compared to say 10 years ago. IMHO and in the opinion of many other mongers anyway.
1 baht for 1 liter if you use the machine!What machine?
What machine?There are water machines around town that dispense filtered drinking water. Bring your bottle and fill it up. Most hotels and Condo complexes have one near by.
Are you sure GreenBud? I was in Pattaya last week and as far as I could tell from the construction going on it would take at least another month or so to completion.
Acording to the website it will open January 16.Yes.
On the 29th, it didn't seem to be open. The bricks on the sidewalk wasn't set. On the 30th, it was open. They have a live band.
On the Pattaya People Channel, during an interview with some manage type from Hooters, he stated that it would open on January 7. Maybe this is a soft opening.
Mr Enternational
12-31-15, 19:50
Happy New Year!
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/crime/810144/russian-kazakhstani-go-go-dancers-arrested-in-pattayaCrazy Russian Girls in Pattaya was my favorite of the Russian clubs! I remember one night I went there around 8:30 and they weren't open and people were standing around. They said, "Come back around 10 pm. You know how Thais are." That led me to believe then that they were having problems with the authorities. Now we have confirmation. That blonde with the long hair could be the one I would go in there to see LOL! She gave me her LINE ID and claimed to be from Volgagrad. I also visited Moulin Rouge but didn't like it as the girls there were high-pressure types. I went to all the Russian clubs in Pattaya and the one that I found in Phuket. Figures the one with the hottest girls (Crazy Russian Girls) would be shut down. Well, they weren't fucking anybody anyway hahaha!
Where's hooters in Pattaya located?
Where's hooters in Pattaya located?I heard its on beach road but not sure but way things going in Pattaya don't expect much from it.
Where's hooters in Pattaya located?On Beach Road, just south of Soi 13.
Last night, that female singer of the band was fantastic. I was on the songthaew bus, and even other people commented on her voice.
- Traffic sucks. In the afternoon, 2nd Road was horrible. There weren't any songthaews going to Jomtien, even though there was a huge crowd waiting. During the night, it was faster to walk (which I did) on Beach Road. They were smart and got rid of the parking and street carts near Walking Street, but people walking on the street made traffic so slow.
- The New Year's Eve scene was interesting. People were all over the beach. At midnight, fireworks were going all over the city (at the pier and along the beach). I thought it was neat.
Wolvenvacht
01-01-16, 09:07
When exactly was your last time in Pattaya? It has changed a lot compared to 2009 and even tremendously compared to say 10 years ago. IMHO and in the opinion of many other mongers anyway.I was last in Pattaya in November 2015. Quite recently I'd say. My history here goes back about five or six years and in that period of time I did not experience any real big leaps in prices.
When I first came here, Soi 6 was 1000 baht ST including room/barfine. Now it is 1000 baht excluding room/barfine of 300 baht and that price hike only happened quite recently. The Pattaya Walking Street agogo scene may have become much more expensive, but I never got any girl there. For some reason that scene did not appeal to me, whereas the Bangkok agogo scene at Soi Cowboy provided me with many nice nights.
Mr Enternational
01-01-16, 16:41
I went to Hooters tonight because my favorite fish place was closed. It is located next to Starbucks and appears to be in full swing. I got there at 745 and had to wait a few minutes for the hostess to come get me and take me to a table. I sat at the high bar table that faces the beach. There were not many customers.
From there it took 15 minutes for someone to come take my order. 30 minutes after that I inquired what was taking so long. By then the place was packed. The waitress finally brought me my cold food and apologized saying there was not many staff but many customers. I had 10 wings for 400 baht and a small bottle of water for 70 baht.
There is a mechanical bull on stage that you can ride for free. I hated that all the tables and chairs are high. There appeared to be some normal ones upstairs. It is set up open-air so I have no idea how they will run the place when rainy season comes.
Any good looking busty ones, E? Did you have any "takeout"tagreplacement0}.
It is set up open-air so I have no idea how they will run the place when rainy season comes.Maybe they will have wet t-shirt contests?
Anyway, it explains how they could finish the construction so quickly.
I was there last night, but don't recall seeing a girl that looked like that. Have you checked their FB page. ? (Just google Ruby Club Pattaya) They are pretty good about posting most of the girls.I read on another board that there is a great bar in Soi 6, where the girls do anything in the club as well as upstairs and that it is the naughtiest bar in the Soi, the poster would not give the name of the bar.
Does anyone know what bar he might be talking about?
PaulAlbert
01-02-16, 18:11
Hey guys,
I will be staying in Pattaya for 2 weeks in May, could anyone advise what is the best area to stay in, one that is closest to the gogo / beer bars and massage joints, thanks!
Banana Boi
01-02-16, 20:17
Your query should have been posted on the Pattaya Hotels thread. http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1875-Pattaya-Hotels
Stay anywhere on the baht bus route that circles along Beach Road and 2nd Road, between South and North Pattaya Road. Gogo bars mainly on Walking Street, beer bars on soi 6, soi 7 and soi 8, and the big massage places bunched together on 2nd Road, between soi 1 and soi 4.
For something cheap and fairly decent consider Baywalk Residence at Beach and soi 13/3.
Christian G
01-02-16, 20:28
Hey guys,
I will be staying in Pattaya for 2 weeks in May, could anyone advise what is the best area to stay in, one that is closest to the gogo / beer bars and massage joints, thanks!Different area for different taste and you post your request in the wrong thread. Here for the hotels in Pattaya http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1875-Pattaya-Hotels.
Gogo, beer bars and massage? Soi Bhuakao around Soi Diana, Soi LK Metro, Soi Honey.
Christian G
01-02-16, 20:32
I read on another board that there is a great bar in Soi 6, where the girls do anything in the club as well as upstairs and that it is the naughtiest bar in the Soi, the poster would not give the name of the bar.
Does anyone know what bar he might be talking about?Urban Legend from the past? Probable. Some bars offer BJ service downstairs. All girls in all bars will do everythings in the room upstairs.
Urban Legend from the past? Probable. Some bars offer BJ service downstairs. All girls in all bars will do everythings in the room upstairs.The poster was there last month said girls walk around semi nude and do the act downstairs but won't name the place someone.
Suggested it might me Heroes never been there my guess is My Friend You Bar, anyone else have suggestions?
MusicalToM
01-03-16, 11:52
Dear Seniors,
I'm planning for a Trip in Feb / March. Went through various escort sites & their service is appealing when compared with GoGo since all these BF / LD / other stuff aren't involved. I also read escorts are more professional compared to GoGo girls.
Now the question is, is it possible to negotiate in terms of rate / shots with escort agencies? Like is it acceptable by them. To be frank I'm looking for LT with multi pops option with as economical rate as possible.
Please guide & TIA.
All girls in all bars will do everythings in the room upstairs.Well, it depends on how you define "all" and "everything". From my limited experience, most of the cute ones (i.e. the marginal ones or the diamonds on the rough) will not do CIM and/or lesbian stuff.
Most girls at My Friend You Bar will give the PSE experience...if you like the marginal looking girls.
Christian G
01-03-16, 18:55
Well, it depends on how you define "all" and "everything". From my limited experience, most of the cute ones (i.e. the marginal ones or the diamonds on the rough) will not do CIM and/or lesbian stuff.
I was referring to the classic suck&fuck.
Wolvenvacht
01-03-16, 21:22
Dear Seniors,
I'm planning for a Trip in Feb / March. Went through various escort sites & their service is appealing when compared with GoGo since all these BF / LD / other stuff aren't involved. I also read escorts are more professional compared to GoGo girls.
Now the question is, is it possible to negotiate in terms of rate / shots with escort agencies? Like is it acceptable by them. To be frank I'm looking for LT with multi pops option with as economical rate as possible.
Please guide & TIA.The escort sector in Thailand lives a marginal existence it appears. Most of it is in the Bangkok area. I don't know if Pattaya is very popular for them and they may charge you extra transportation costs.
There is much bait & switch, photoshopped pictures on the websites, high prices, . . .
Have a look at the Escort sub-forum and read it. There are some good escort ladies (if one can believe the few positive reports) but most reports are not so enthousiast.
There is one constant though: escorts are expensive. For a whole night (Long Time or LT) they charge a fortune. And I never heard that their rates are negotiable.
Far easier and cheaper to go to any agogo or bar and choose your companion. As most agogos have at least topless or even nude danbcing there is no "surprise" what you are getting and for the price of a ladydrink you can interview her so you can gauge how compatible you both will be.
The average LT price is about 3500 baht, add a barfine of 600 or 700 baht and some drinks for you and her and it all adds up to about 5000 baht for a night and morning of fun. That will be less than half of what an escort will charge you.
But of course, it is your money so you decide yourself.
Mr Enternational
01-04-16, 00:11
There is one constant though: escorts are expensive. For a whole night (Long Time or LT) they charge a fortune. And I never heard that their rates are negotiable.And besides that, it is going to be the same girls that you can find anywhere else. Anyone can put an add online saying they are an escort and charge you a bunch of damn money. And it seems the poster wants escort service with Beach Road negotiations.
Why must guys always try to reinvent the wheel? If you do a search in this forum for escorts what will you come up with? If I went to McDonald's and SEARCHED the menu and all I saw was Big Mac, McNuggets, McRib, ice cream, french fries no matter how much I read the menu over and over; but then I decided to ask about a T-bone steak I would look like a jacka$$. I'm surprised you missed it. It is right under thr caviar.
Soldierb11
01-04-16, 00:49
Far easier and cheaper to go to any agogo or bar and choose your companion. As most agogos have at least topless or even nude danbcing there is no "surprise" what you are getting and for the price of a ladydrink you can interview her so you can gauge how compatible you both will be.
The average LT price is about 3500 baht, add a barfine of 600 or 700 baht and some drinks for you and her and it all adds up to about 5000 baht for a night and morning of fun. That will be less than half of what an escort will charge you.
But of course, it is your money so you decide yourself.All very good points. A LT escort will cost a fortune. At least at a gogo you get to see and interview the girl first. An escort girl and her heavily photoshopped photos or even a bait and switch by the agency? No thanks.
Gogo club is a much better choice.
I just spent about a week in Pattaya and in all that time wasn't tempted by any new girls, despite the fact that my dwindling "little black book" meant I only had action every other day. The girls in the bars & on the beach all seemed older & particularly fatter than ever.
One longed for and unexpected reunion with a former beach favorite emphasized the decline in depressing fashion: she had been, as I suspected, jailed for drugs use for the last 18+ months. Sadly, she was now grossly fat, a misfortune she explained succinctly - "no drugs in jail". I had long for this girl on many previous visits. A real passionate three holer. But now I couldn't bring myself to attempt it with such a fatty (also I'm always a bit afraid of scabies in the newly released). Another human tragedy caused by the brutal authorities.
.. Another human tragedy caused by the brutal authorities.
Very strange view of reality! - A Girl is a drug dealer and then the brutal authorities are responsible for a Desaster.
Banana Boi
01-04-16, 06:36
The girls in the bars & on the beach all seemed older & particularly fatter than ever.Agree Beach Road and soi 7 and soi 8 don't have much to offer but instead of wasting your vacation away, change your game plan and go to gogo clubs and soapies where there are plenty of nice thin younger girls.
Mr Enternational
01-04-16, 07:59
Agree Beach Road and soi 7 and soi 8 don't have much to offer but instead of wasting your vacation away, change your game plan and go to gogo clubs and soapies where there are plenty of nice thin younger girls.Where you can get 1 for the price of 10 (or 1 for the price of 5 concerning the soapies)? Therein lies the rub.
Blanquiceleste
01-04-16, 13:32
Dear Seniors,
I'm planning for a Trip in Feb / March. Went through various escort sites & their service is appealing when compared with GoGo since all these BF / LD / other stuff aren't involved. I also read escorts are more professional compared to GoGo girls.
Now the question is, is it possible to negotiate in terms of rate / shots with escort agencies? Like is it acceptable by them. To be frank I'm looking for LT with multi pops option with as economical rate as possible.
Please guide & TIA.I believe there is a separate thread on the Thailand page called Bangkok Escort Agencies. You can find some pretty enthralling discussions among your fellow escort enthusiasts about agencies and escorts and their performances and their prices on those pages. The primary reason people opt for an escort service is the discretion involved. They do not want to be seen inside a gogo or in a bar drinking and fooling around with girls.
Personally, I do not fancy the escort model for reasons stated by other members on this forum earlier. Photoshopped pictures, bait & switch, astronomical prices, absence of an interview, no build up to intimacy, etc. Further, in a city like BKK where there are nearly over 25,000 girls working at any given time, why would I call in an escort?
Blanquiceleste
01-04-16, 13:37
Urban Legend from the past? Probable. Some bars offer BJ service downstairs. All girls in all bars will do everythings in the room upstairs.Yep, that would be My Friend You. Its a tiny bar on the left hand side of Soi 6 when you enter from 2nd road side. They have bar stools where the girls will get you warmed up while you have a drink. After that you can move behind a bit where there are sofas to sit while the girl goes on her knees to blow you. Privacy is provided by a beaded curtain that does little stop roving eyes. Of course, for the brave, this deed can be done right on the bar stool. I remember a time when I got a BJ right on the bar stool while reading the Bangkok Post I had brought along with me from my hotel.
Christian G
01-04-16, 14:41
Yep, that would be My Friend You. Its a tiny bar on the left hand side of Soi 6 when you enter from 2nd road side. They have bar stools where the girls will get you warmed up while you have a drink. After that you can move behind a bit where there are sofas to sit while the girl goes on her knees to blow you. Privacy is provided by a beaded curtain that does little stop roving eyes. Of course, for the brave, this deed can be done right on the bar stool. I remember a time when I got a BJ right on the bar stool while reading the Bangkok Post I had brought along with me from my hotel.I know My Friend You, and what happen inside is not more naughty than what happen in other bars around Pattaya. At Bar De La Poste in soi Lengkee girls dress off total naked for a LD and give you a public BBBJ on the stool without any curtains LOL.
Uncle Volodya
01-04-16, 18:00
My first night back in town after the New Year.
It just turned midnight and I am getting ready to hit the discos: Red Car, 808, and maybe Mixx.
Hopefully the High Season crowd will have thinned down a bit by now. I will post my experiences tomorrow.
Stay horny my friends.
Uncle-V.
MusicalToM
01-04-16, 21:15
The escort sector in Thailand lives a marginal existence it appears. Most of it is in the Bangkok area. I don't know if Pattaya is very popular for them and they may charge you extra transportation costs.
There is much bait & switch, photoshopped pictures on the websites, high prices, . . .
Have a look at the Escort sub-forum and read it. There are some good escort ladies (if one can believe the few positive reports) but most reports are not so enthousiast.
There is one constant though: escorts are expensive. For a whole night (Long Time or LT) they charge a fortune. And I never heard that their rates are negotiable.
Far easier and cheaper to go to any agogo or bar and choose your companion. As most agogos have at least topless or even nude danbcing there is no "surprise" what you are getting and for the price of a ladydrink you can interview her so you can gauge how compatible you both will be.
The average LT price is about 3500 baht, add a barfine of 600 or 700 baht and some drinks for you and her and it all adds up to about 5000 baht for a night and morning of fun. That will be less than half of what an escort will charge you.
But of course, it is your money so you decide yourself.To be honest I read through all available & relevant threads regarding GoGo & Escort. To me it seems like people who availed Escort services are happy about it & state GoGo time consuming along with almost same expenses. Whereas as per your reply I see your reasons make sense if somebody is fun loving like me. And of-course I know Escort photos are fully photo-shopped, unexpected surprises are obvious.
Also I was going through various backpage ads & seemed there is some activity from inde girls who claim to be Escorts in there ads. I assume these ads are also kind of baits. I think I'll skip them.
Now coming to GoGo, negotiations in terms of shots & any other special services like A level are how relevant? And if it's relevant then what's the frequency of getting these services from nice pretty girls?
Mr Enternational
01-05-16, 01:26
My first night back in town after the New Year.
It just turned midnight and I am getting ready to hit the discos: Red Car, 808, and maybe Mixx.
Hopefully the High Season crowd will have thinned down a bit by now. I will post my experiences tomorrow.I don't think there ever was a high season crowd. New Years Eve and New Years day the streets were flooded with people and cars but after that this place has been as quiet as a mouse.
Uncle Volodya
01-05-16, 06:40
Report on last night:
So the crowds seem to have thinned out, but so has the number of hot girls. I hit Red Car, 808, Ibar / Insomnia, Brooklyn (completely dead) and Mixx. I saw maybe 5-6 girls total I would take home. All of them either already with dudes or disinterested.
I have never seen so many fugglies or 40+ girls at Ibar / Insomnia!
I think the stunners have earned some cash after the NY holidays and are taking a break. My 2 fave regulars are out of town right now.
Maybe things will get back to normal in a day or two and the FL scene will pick up a bit.
Still plenty of hotties in the gogos. Peeked into Saphire and Ironbar and I liked the lineups there. So I may have to bite the bullet financially and focus on these the rest of the trip.
Wolvenvacht
01-05-16, 07:59
Now coming to GoGo, negotiations in terms of shots & any other special services like A level are how relevant? And if it's relevant then what's the frequency of getting these services from nice pretty girls?Negotiations are the heart of the matter with agogo girls. The very first principal rule for anyone except the most experienced and well known (to the girl) mongers is to always negotiate all services you require from her before you book her.
Not only are later negotiations when you are "in the act" awkward, she will be able to extract a far higher price from you.
As to the services that are available from agogo girls, you will understand that with thousands of girls available, there will always be someone who will provide you with what you want. The problem is to find her, but my experience is that agogo girls are not shy. You can always engage the help of the local mamasan and ask her. For a ladydrink she will point you to the "right" girl (for any definition of "right" of course). But even then get the girl to confirm the services herself and don't assume that the girl is aware of what you asked / agreed with the mamasan.
Mr Enternational
01-05-16, 08:51
There is now actually a bar called The Coconut Bar at the coconut bar.
Uncle Volodya
01-05-16, 10:56
There is now actually a bar called The Coconut Bar at the coconut bar.Hasn't that place been around for a while now? On the corner of one of the Soi 13's and BR. A big mural of Glen Quagmire (or maybe its Bart Simpsons) on the wall.
Or maybe you are talking about another place?
Mr Enternational
01-05-16, 10:58
Hasn't that place been around for a while now? On the corner of one of the Soi 13's and BR. A big mural of Glen Quagmire (or maybe its Bart Simpsons) on the wall.
Or maybe you are talking about another place?That is it. My tailor and watch men are right near so I park there a lot but have never noticed it.
MusicalToM
01-05-16, 11:38
Thanks to everybody who cleared my concerns about Escort service, especially to "Wolvenvacht" - a big thank.
Since I don't have any knowledge of in negotiations, what should be the ideal approach to start it & how to end? Also when to identify that you are paying the actual & fair price. And if somebody is providing any special services, then is it like we have to pay them extra for the service or it's all included in the deal?
Uncle Volodya
01-05-16, 12:19
That is it. My tailor and watch men are right near so I park there a lot but have never noticed it.Yeah I think it's been around for at least a year or so. I usually pass it on my way to WS from my condo via motorbike. But I don't ever remember seeing any hot ladies in there.
IllusionHeart
01-05-16, 14:25
Report on last night:
So the crowds seem to have thinned out, but so has the number of hot girls. I hit Red Car, 808, Ibar / Insomnia, Brooklyn (completely dead) and Mixx. I saw maybe 5-6 girls total I would take home. All of them either already with dudes or disinterested.
I have never seen so many fugglies or 40+ girls at Ibar / Insomnia!
Thats really dissappointing to hear UV. Discos generally have some pick up options irrespective of the season. Guess you can try bfining from Simon Bar complex or other Bar complexes on Second Road earlier in the night. Bars around LK Metro or Soi Bukhao might also have some good options as well.
If not then you can turn to gogos in pattaya but IMHO only after exhausting all above options.
Blanquiceleste
01-05-16, 16:01
Thats really dissappointing to hear UV. Discos generally have some pick up options irrespective of the season. Guess you can try bfining from Simon Bar complex or other Bar complexes on Second Road earlier in the night. Bars around LK Metro or Soi Bukhao might also have some good options as well.
If not then you can turn to gogos in pattaya but IMHO only after exhausting all above options.If Ibar / 808 / Red Car and Mixx are dead, then there is little chance Simon will have any quality women to shag. Simon bar girls are good for service but they do not fare well in the looks department. If Uncle found the ones at IBar fugly, then I dread to think how he would review the Simon women. LOL.
I guess biting the financial bullet is the only way out.
Wolvenvacht
01-05-16, 20:26
Since I don't have any knowledge of in negotiations, what should be the ideal approach to start it & how to end? Also when to identify that you are paying the actual & fair price. And if somebody is providing any special services, then is it like we have to pay them extra for the service or it's all included in the deal?Ah, the fine art of negotiations. It takes years and years to master it and, have no doubt, those bargirls are years ahead of you, . . . Always.
The way I approach it is by setting myself a budget, say I will aim for an LT (which includes BJ, FS, DATY, DFK and two pops before going to sleep and one pop in the morning) for a fee between 3000 and 4000 baht plus barfine and 1000 baht expenses (mainly drinks for her and me and perhaps some tips for serving girls or mamasans).
I then go to the places I think I might find someone to my liking, be it beer bars or agogos and have in my mind a list of "qualities", e. G. Small tits, long hair, trimmed pussy, not too skinny, speaks English fairly well, bubbly personality.
If I find someone who fulfills are my qualities and falls within my budget, I take her without further delay. Never ever think there will be someone better, cheaper, more sexy in the next venue: you are likely to end up alone in your bed that night.
If no-one answers my list of qualities, I go to the next place and will accept someone that fulfills all qualities but one. If again no success, I will look for someone with all qualities but two, . . . Wash, rince, repeat until successful. This system has always helped me very well.
The budget you set yourself protects you against grossly overpaying and the "decreasing quality method" almost guarantees you someone to your liking. There are actually better ways to choose that are statistically and mathematically proven to guarantee you a more optimal outcome, but I'm afraid if I explain those methods here, people will think I'm a freak.
Uncle Volodya
01-05-16, 20:36
Thats really dissappointing to hear UV. Discos generally have some pick up options irrespective of the season. Guess you can try bfining from Simon Bar complex or other Bar complexes on Second Road earlier in the night. Bars around LK Metro or Soi Bukhao might also have some good options as well.
If not then you can turn to gogos in pattaya but IMHO only after exhausting all above options.Great to hear from you always, my friend.
There were plenty of friendlies with enticing looks. But none enticed me. SO the problem may be with me and not Pattaya.
This always happens when I get back form my visits with my VN lady. She has my number for sure. 555.
There are actually better ways to choose that are statistically and mathematically proven to guarantee you a more optimal outcome, but I'm afraid if I explain those methods here, people will think I'm a freak.I think the only people who would balk at reading what has proven to you to more effectively get what you want and criticize you for it are the low demand, low expectation punters who are determined to be more of the problem than the solution to improving the quality of service from practitioners of the P4 P trade. Consequently, who gives a flip what they think. LOL.
I would be very interested in reading what you have learned along the way.
Soldierb11
01-06-16, 05:10
Thanks to everybody who cleared my concerns about Escort service, especially to "Wolvenvacht" - a big thank.
Since I don't have any knowledge of in negotiations, what should be the ideal approach to start it & how to end? Also when to identify that you are paying the actual & fair price. And if somebody is providing any special services, then is it like we have to pay them extra for the service or it's all included in the deal?You need to do some reading first and then you will have an idea about what are the average prices for the different options available in Pattaya. And by reading I don't mean go back two pages, before my last trip to Pattaya I went back over 100 pages and read forward and I have spent over 6 cumulative months in Pattaya the last 8 years. There have been some great reports this last year so skim through the short posts and find some of the long trip reports. Read and you can learn the different options and prices available. For example all these places have different price points and different things to look out for: beach road, Soi 6, beer bars, soapie massages, insomnia, gogo bars, Soi metro, and the list goes on.
Almost all you need to know has already been written so go read and then when you have a specific question, ask away.
When are the dates for Songkran festival in Pattaya? Is it the following weekend after the events in BKK (Apr 12-15)?
Wolvenvacht
01-06-16, 08:37
I would be very interested in reading what you have learned along the way.It is not a personal invention, but a method that was discovered / developed by some statisticians to find an answer to the following problem:
"How to choose the best candidate from a list of candidates, given that you do not know what quality the next candidate has and once a candidate has been examined and not chosen, you cannot go back and choose her".
This is of course very close to our mongering experience: you see a lovely in one bar, but you hesitate to take her since there is likely to be a better one in the next bar. But if you don't find that next more lovely one, it appears your first choice is now already taken by another punter.
So how to solve this problem?
It turns out to be quite simple (I spare you the underlying statistics).
Just go on your usual bar / agogo / club / disco / . . . Crawl and choose as you usually do. Interview likely candidates and give them a score. That is of course the hairy part and is highly individual. Your high score may not be my high score, but that doesn't matter provided you use a consistent scoring system during the same experiment and a higher score means the candidate is better in your eyes.
Remember the highest score among the first three or four (the actual cut-off point lies somewhere between 3 and 4, but one cannot do a "half interview") , but don't take any of these candidates. Just be cool and relaxed about this rule: if you meet a girl that gives you an instant hard-on and makes you almost cream your shorts just by looking into her eyes, by all means take her and f*ck the experiment and science.
Then continue your quest and keep on scoring next candidates until you find one that scores higher than the top score of the first three. That's the one to take.
It can be proven statistically that it is more likely than not that if you continue your search (and assume you cannot interview more than 10 candidates in one night) you will not find a better one. If I remember well, the odds are about 60 against 40 this method finds you the best candidate.
Of course you will agree it is a rather strange method: examining three candidates knowing you will not pick them. Though luck for those early birds, indeed and you will probably best move to another bar after each interview in order not to draw strange glances. Also it takes some effort and time (and money) that we cannot always invest.
But there is a short-cut possible!
Assuming the population of WG remains more or less the same during a certain period of time (say a few weeks maximum) and you can keep your scoring system the same, then each next night you can simply skip the "first three interviews" and use the highest score of your first night as the threshold point for the next nights.
Mind you this method does not guarantee you end up with the best possible candidate, but it will guarantee you that your choice is likely to be better than making a random choice from a sequential list of candidates where the quality of the "next candidate" is an unknown.
Report on last night:
So the crowds seem to have thinned out, but so has the number of hot girls. I hit Red Car, 808, Ibar / Insomnia, Brooklyn (completely dead) and Mixx. I saw maybe 5-6 girls total I would take home. All of them either already with dudes or disinterested.
I have never seen so many fugglies or 40+ girls at Ibar / Insomnia!
I think the stunners have earned some cash after the NY holidays and are taking a break. My 2 fave regulars are out of town right now.
Maybe things will get back to normal in a day or two and the FL scene will pick up a bit.
Still plenty of hotties in the gogos. Peeked into Saphire and Ironbar and I liked the lineups there. So I may have to bite the bullet financially and focus on these the rest of the trip.I was at ibar a few nights back. Saw one real stunner. A thai with blonde hair and waxed skin. She wanted 4 K to stay until the next day, appeared reluctant to stay until 6 pm and wanted to leave earlier in the morning.
I tried to bring her down to 3K she wouldn't budge and wanted 3K for ST only. Or my negotiating skills are poor. But I have to say. I would not have minded paying her 4K considering how primed and groomed she was in her looks, fit for a high end p0rn movie. If she had agreed to 4 pops with an A$$ entry included until 6 pm the next day, I would have eventually, but my bad, I didn't handle the discussion so well and we didnt even get there while she insisted on 4k. I bought her a drink and after a while of chatting I gave up and we parted ways.
The next cutie I approached straight away said 3K gesticulating with her fingers. I was kinda taken aback because I had barely said Hello, and exchanged names. I looked at her again and then again and blinked thrice while I made up my mind about whether she meant what I thought she meant. She noticed the hesitation and changed her mind and said so. LOL! Talk about being jumped at. Because she was so well dressed I simply didn't expect such a blatant upfront quote. Too bad.
The rest were mostly fuglies I agree.
Uncle Volodya
01-06-16, 21:31
I was at ibar a few nights back. Saw one real stunner. A thai with blonde hair and waxed skin. She wanted 4 K to stay until the next day, appeared reluctant to stay until 6 pm and wanted to leave earlier in the morning.
I tried to bring her down to 3K she wouldn't budge and wanted 3K for ST only. Or my negotiating skills are poor. But I have to say. I would not have minded paying her 4K considering how primed and groomed she was in her looks, fit for a high end p0rn movie. If she had agreed to 4 pops with an A$$ entry included until 6 pm the next day, I would have eventually, but my bad, I didn't handle the discussion so well and we didnt even get there while she insisted on 4k. I bought her a drink and after a while of chatting I gave up and we parted ways.
The next cutie I approached straight away said 3K gesticulating with her fingers. I was kinda taken aback because I had barely said Hello, and exchanged names. I looked at her again and then again and blinked thrice while I made up my mind about whether she meant what I thought she meant. She noticed the hesitation and changed her mind and said so. LOL! Talk about being jumped at. Because she was so well dressed I simply didn't expect such a blatant upfront quote. Too bad.
The rest were mostly fuglies I agree.Was the blonde stunner Jen? I have taken her on several occasions and she is a hot. Worth the money IMHO. But kind of played out for me. We had our tryst and I am looking for something new. Been there, seen it, done it, have the T-Shirt, etc.
Crocodilexp
01-07-16, 07:13
"How to choose the best candidate from a list of candidates, given that you do not know what quality the next candidate has and once a candidate has been examined and not chosen, you cannot go back and choose her".
(I spare you the underlying statistics)
Insightful and interesting. I heard the rule before to "establish the baseline using the first 3, then take the first one who exceeds that", but thought it was just an arbitrary rule of thumb, not an optimal statistical solution. For the math minded among us (there are some), would you mind posting a link or the name of the problem / paper to search for?
Of course, that presumes one wanting to find an optimal partner efficiently, and not enjoying the hunt itself.
Was the blonde stunner Jen? I have taken her on several occasions and she is a hot. Worth the money IMHO. But kind of played out for me. We had our tryst and I am looking for something new. Been there, seen it, done it, have the T-Shirt, etc.Looks like her, but she looked so much better in real life. She had just arrived and wasn't looking stoned and worn out like in the pic you attached LOL!
Actually on second thoughts - the gal I saw had well exercised shoulders/body and upright bosom that defied gravity without looking like silicone makeovers - not saggy like in your pic ... and I don't recall her name anymore
Cheers.
Wolvenvacht
01-07-16, 08:02
Insightful and interesting. I heard the rule before to "establish the baseline using the first 3, then take the first one who exceeds that", but thought it was just an arbitrary rule of thumb, not an optimal statistical solution. For the math minded among us (there are some), would you mind posting a link or the name of the problem / paper to search for?
Of course, that presumes one wanting to find an optimal partner efficiently, and not enjoying the hunt itself.
It is not just about "establishing a baseline" only. The math / stats part comes in to calculate how big your sample for the baseline should be. Too large and you are more likley to find the optimal solution in your sample (and hence rejected); too small and you may end up with a too low threshold and pick a less than optimal winner.
Depending on the source this optimal base line sample is said to be either n/e or 1/(square root of n), with n being the size of the population you can check in one experiment. For a size n = 10 (my assumption of the maximum number you can check out in one evening), the optimal size is between 3 and 4. There is a subtle difference between the 1/e and 1/(square root of n): the former is for finding the best candidate, the latter for finding a good enough candidate, but for a population size of 10 both are between 3 and 4, so are actually the same as you cannot interview a fractional candidate. Let's say that 3 interviews establishes a base line for a "good enough" one, whereas 4 interviews will optimize your search for a "best" candidate.
You can find a nice explanation of the so-called "secretary problem" at http://rs.io/the-secretary-problem-explained-dating/.
Yes, I applied the secretary problem to finding hookers. I apologize to all secretaries. :)
Uncle Volodya
01-07-16, 08:14
Looks like her, but she looked so much better in real life. She had just arrived and wasn't looking stoned and worn out like in the pic you attached LOL!
Actually on second thoughts - the gal I saw had well exercised shoulders/body and upright bosom that defied gravity without looking like silicone makeovers - not saggy like in your pic ... and I don't recall her name anymore
Cheers.Yeah that is a bad pic of her. Just the only one I had handy.
Here is another where she is lookign better.
BTW: her boobs are sillies, but they are damned near perfect. She got the super expensive kind and could not drink alcohol for a few weeks after surgery.
Yeah that is a bad pic of her. Just the only one I had handy.
Here is another where she is lookign better.
BTW: her boobs are sillies, but they are damned near perfect. She got the super expensive kind and could not drink alcohol for a few weeks after surgery.That's her all right. Oh fakes? I hate fakes. No joy in feeling them up ever. Guess I saved me some money. Ahem!
Cheers.
Uncle Volodya
01-08-16, 10:59
That's her all right. Oh fakes? I hate fakes. No joy in feeling them up ever. Guess I saved me some money. Ahem!
Cheers.You haven't had the pleasure of feeling those up yet, my man. They are damned close to real.
In other news, things are slowly getting back to normal. Some hotties in Ibar last night one of which I took home for a very satisfying LT. Absolutely smoking body and my book and very cute and smiley face. She only wanted 2. 5 K and stayed till around noon. Great girls and great GFE. I think I will wife up with her for my last few days here as I really don't feel like the hassle of the hunt. Ibar is still way too crowded with douchie dudes. And this one is a keeper. Could be the new regular.
You haven't had the pleasure of feeling those up yet, my man. They are damned close to real.
Uuuh. Let sour melons remain sour melons. Too late for me to go back.
Cheers
Hi all,
Sorry for the newbie question, but looking at the reports from Pattaya, it seems the scene here is mostly bars, is that correct? Is there much of an oilies / soapies scene, like in Bangkok? Just curious if there are any places like Nataree (in BKK) in Pattaya.
Thanks so much and sorry if this has been asked before!
Banana Boi
01-11-16, 06:53
The main concentration of soapies on the baht bus route are Sabai Dee, Honey 2, Sabai Room, and Rasputin on 2nd Road arond soi 2. Honey 1 (not so good) is at soi 10. There are others. Google search.
Hi all,
Sorry for the newbie question, but looking at the reports from Pattaya, it seems the scene here is mostly bars, is that correct? Is there much of an oilies / soapies scene, like in Bangkok? Just curious if there are any places like Nataree (in BKK) in Pattaya.
Thanks so much and sorry if this has been asked before!Hello,
Hope this helps you, a list of oilies and soapies, I am going in the first week and Feb and will post while I am there.
Rasputin.
Honey 2.
Sabai Dee.
PP Massage.
Amorn Massage.
Paradise Massage on Soi Honey.
Nataree Massage.
Emmanuelle.
The Lord.
Dream Heaven.
Addict Massage.
Copa Cabana.
Emannuelle Entertainment.
My Princess.
Mitu Massage.
Any reviews from seniors on the above list would be appreciated.
TheTank
Thank you! I guess in particular, I'm looking for something more high-end, not the cheaper options in Pattaya like Walking Street, Soi 6...instead, where would I go to find the newest, cutest, youngest (legal of course!!) talent, if money wasn't an issue? I guess something similar to Nataree in Bangkok...does that sort of thing exist in Pattaya?
And does anyone have any suggestions on the best girl-friendly hotels that are within walking distance to the action?
Thanks so much! This is my first trip to Pattaya, but happy to help anyone out if they ever need tips on Bangkok, as I've been there for a long time now.
Hello,Is
Hope this helps you, a list of oilies and soapies, I am going in the first week and Feb and will post while I am there.
Rasputin.
Honey 2.
Sabai Dee.
PP Massage.
Amorn Massage.
Paradise Massage on Soi Honey.
Nataree Massage.
Emmanuelle.
The Lord.
Dream Heaven.
Addict Massage.
Copa Cabana.
Emannuelle Entertainment.
My Princess.
Mitu Massage.
Any reviews from seniors on the above list would be appreciated.
TheTank
Wolvenvacht
01-11-16, 20:03
Thank you! I guess in particular, I'm looking for something more high-end, not the cheaper options in Pattaya like Walking Street, Soi 6...instead, where would I go to find the newest, cutest, youngest (legal of course!!) talent, if money wasn't an issue?
With barfines up to 1600 baht Walking Street for sure is not one of the cheaper options.
If there is one thing I have learned in Thailand is that price and quality are two totally different things that have seldom any discernible connection.
Pretty, young and fresh from the farm can be found in Soi 6 as much as in an up-market agogo club.
Banana Boi
01-11-16, 22:59
Not sure how much research you did but Walking Street is as expensive as you can get. That is where many of the young ones (18-22 year olds) are. A night can easily get out of control and cost 2000 baht in drinks, 1000 barfine, 2000 baht dinner, 2000 baht more for drinks at Insomnia, 4000 baht LT, 1000 baht lunch the next day. 12,000 baht is not what many guys here go for.
The soapies I listed are the high end ones. Rasputin has 7000 baht Russian girls. 1 looked super hot but no chance I was paying that for 90 minutes. 2500-3000 baht is more the range for the nice ones age under 23.
As Wolvenvacht says, don't write off soi 6 just because it's 300 barfine + 1000 to the girl. Some very nice girls can be found if you walk through enough times on your trip.
Tank's list includes quite a few BKK massage places like The Lord, Nataree, Emmanuelle, etc. etc.
re. hotels check the Pattaya Hotels thread.
Thank you! I guess in particular, I'm looking for something more high-end, not the cheaper options in Pattaya like Walking Street, Soi 6...instead, where would I go to find the newest, cutest, youngest (legal of course!!) talent, if money wasn't an issue? I guess something similar to Nataree in Bangkok...does that sort of thing exist in Pattaya?
And does anyone have any suggestions on the best girl-friendly hotels that are within walking distance to the action?
Thanks so much! This is my first trip to Pattaya, but happy to help anyone out if they ever need tips on Bangkok, as I've been there for a long time now.I find that the best that Pattaya has to offer is the nightly line-up at Baccara on Walking Street, if money is not an option.
Hotel: Baywalk Residence; 5 minute walk to WS and if you pay up, nice bay views from your balcony. Very guest friendly, don't even take their ID.
Member #4698
01-12-16, 01:24
Where are the best girls as in where are the hottest girls is a subjective question. Your "hot" might be my "no thank you - not on your life" and vice a versa, but for my idea of the best looking girls in Pattaya, check out the girls in What's Up, Sensations, Happy, and Sapphire A Go Go from 8 pm to 10 pm and then later after midnight, if you still haven't found what you are looking for, head over to I Bar.
BKK is a different story. There is more variety in the types of venues in BKK. So in addition to a few very good Go Go's like Crazy House, Baccara, RB4 (or whatever they are now calling themselves) and Mandarin which are more or less on par with the better Pattaya Walking Street Go Go's; BKK has some high end Soapy massage parlors and a number of G Clubs with some classy looking girls inside. Check out La Belle and the Lord Massage parlors and also the Pimp and Sherbert G Clubs. Pattaya has nothing to compare with these latter high end BKK venues. Be prepared to spend LARGE especially in the G Clubs or do not bother going.
Member #4698
01-12-16, 03:47
This is far from a comprehensive list. I don't visit that many different Go Go's per trip anymore. I tend to rely 10 or so Go Go's that have served me well in the past and then I branch out a little from there. There are three predominate elements that make or break a bar as far as I am concerned: First is the quality of the girls, second is the fun or bawdiness factor of the bar, and third is my previous track record with the girls I have barfined out of each respective Go Go. Basically I go where the quality girls are, but then all things being equal, I like a bar where the girls are nude and where a certain amount of loose personal interaction is involved, even encouraged, and where I have good times. So here are my favorite Go Go's of 2015:
1. Crazy House (Soi 23) - this place has the quality girls, the nudity and the bawdiness. It is my current favorite bar in LOS.
2. Whats Up (Pat) - God I hate to like this bar, but I like it. I think the girls in here are just a little bit hotter/better looking than CH girls, but no nudity except for the lesbian show, not the same level of bawdiness, and the Agency barfine structure place this bar in 2nd place as far as I am concerned. Some guys love to hate this bar and I can understand why. But hot damn! They have the most attractive girls of any Go Go in LOS and that counts for something in my book.
3. Sapphire (Pat) - The quality of girls is a little less than at Whats Up, but this is a more fun place. I like this bar. This is a great bar.
4. Mandarin (Nana) - Yeah, another Agency Coyote bar, ugh, but what can I say, they have some sexy girls and I have had some good times in this bar in 2015.
5. RnB bar (formerly RB4) (Nana) - I haven't been here since the closure and the name change, but in October they still had a pretty good lineup. I take my time selecting a girl in this bar to avoid picking a fast turnaround girl. The prettiest girls wear tops and are on the right hand stage.
Honorable Mention: 6. Sensations (Pat), 7. Happy (Pat), 8. Baccara (Cowboy), 9. Bada Bing (Patpong) 10. Airport (Pat), 11. Shark (Cowboy), and 12. Suzi Wong* (Cowboy).
I know this list is very subjective and limited so I would like to hear from other BM's on which bars are their favorites. I thought 2015 was a pretty good year. I hope 2016 will be even better.
*One of my favorite bar girls used to work in Suzi Wong. After a bar raid in mid 2015, she being a Cambodian passport holder was no longer able to work in SW. With her in the lineup SW was one of my favorite bars of 2015. Without her in the lineup, not so much, but it is still a very friendly bar so it remains on my honorable mention list and it is worth stopping by and having a beer.
Thanks everyone for the advice and feedback, much appreciated! This is very helpful.
Seems like Walking Street is the equivalent of BKK's Soi Cowboy or Nana. I'm more interested in places such as La Belle, The Lord, etc, (I much prefer the quiet atmosphere of an soapy to bar streets) but they don't seem to exist in Pattaya. In any case, I'll check out Rasputin and your other suggestions.
Was planning on staying at Aya Boutique Hotel, heard good things about that place, but will check out Bayview Residence too.
Thanks everyone for the advice and feedback, much appreciated! This is very helpful.
Seems like Walking Street is the equivalent of BKK's Soi Cowboy or Nana. I'm more interested in places such as La Belle, The Lord, etc, (I much prefer the quiet atmosphere of an soapy to bar streets) but they don't seem to exist in Pattaya.Whoever wrote that post was confused. The Lord and La Belle are in Bangkok, not Pattaya.
Yes, I know. What I meant was that I was hoping to find the equivalent of The Lord, La Belle, or Nataree in Pattaya. But it seems like the focus of Pattaya is mostly bar streets, and not soapies. Having never been there, I'm sort of imagining Pattaya as a much larger Soi Cowboy. Anyways, I guess I'll find out soon!
Whoever wrote that post was confused. The Lord and La Belle are in Bangkok, not Pattaya.
Uncle Volodya
01-12-16, 08:00
Yes, I know. What I meant was that I was hoping to find the equivalent of The Lord, La Belle, or Nataree in Pattaya. But it seems like the focus of Pattaya is mostly bar streets, and not soapies. Having never been there, I'm sort of imagining Pattaya as a much larger Soi Cowboy. Anyways, I guess I'll find out soon!There are plenty of Soapies in Patts. Honey and Honey II are really good. Mostly CBJ but girls will DFK if they like you at both. Both are way cheaper than Nataree or Lords (2600 Baht ). And the lineup at Honey 2 is very good IMHO.
There is also Sabai Dee and Rasputin, but I haven't tried either one.
Uncle Volodya
01-12-16, 08:08
This is far from a comprehensive list. I don't visit that many different Go Go's per trip anymore. I tend to rely 10 or so Go Go's that have served me well in the past and then I branch out a little from there. There are three predominate elements that make or break a bar as far as I am concerned: First is the quality of the girls, second is the fun or bawdiness factor of the bar, and third is my previous track record with the girls I have barfined out of each respective Go Go. Basically I go where the quality girls are, but then all things being equal, I like a bar where the girls are nude and where a certain amount of loose personal interaction is involved, even encouraged, and where I have good times. So here are my favorite Go Go's of 2015:
1. Crazy House (Soi 23) - this place has the quality girls, the nudity and the bawdiness. It is my current favorite bar in LOS.
2. Whats Up (Pat) - God I hate to like this bar, but I like it. I think the girls in here are just a little bit hotter/better looking than CH girls, but no nudity except for the lesbian show, not the same level of bawdiness, and the Agency barfine structure place this bar in 2nd place as far as I am concerned. Some guys love to hate this bar and I can understand why. But hot damn! They have the most attractive girls of any Go Go in LOS and that counts for something in my book.
3. Sapphire (Pat) - The quality of girls is a little less than at Whats Up, but this is a more fun place. I like this bar. This is a great bar.
4. Mandarin (Nana) - Yeah, another Agency Coyote bar, ugh, but what can I say, they have some sexy girls and I have had some good times in this bar in 2015.
5. RnB bar (formerly RB4) (Nana) - I haven't been here since the closure and the name change, but in October they still had a pretty good lineup. I take my time selecting a girl in this bar to avoid picking a fast turnaround girl. The prettiest girls wear tops and are on the right hand stage.
Honorable Mention: 6. Sensations (Pat), 7. Happy (Pat), 8. Baccara (Cowboy), 9. Bada Bing (Patpong) 10. Airport (Pat), 11. Shark (Cowboy), and 12. Suzi Wong* (Cowboy).
I know this list is very subjective and limited so I would like to hear from other BM's on which bars are their favorites. I thought 2015 was a pretty good year. I hope 2016 will be even better.
*One of my favorite bar girls used to work in Suzi Wong. After a bar raid in mid 2015, she being a Cambodian passport holder was no longer able to work in SW. With her in the lineup SW was one of my favorite bars of 2015. Without her in the lineup, not so much, but it is still a very friendly bar so it remains on my honorable mention list and it is worth stopping by and having a beer.Great list my friend. I wish I had known about Whats Up. I would definitely have checked it out.
I would also add Iron Bar (Patts) the list. There are a few real stunners in there and girls take their tops off. Also a soapie tub show in the middle of the club. The girls will why will get down with you if you buy them a drink with dirty dancing, rubbing, feeling them up, and even DFK. Prices (at least during high season) are steep though. 1 K BF and 4500/5500ST LT! But I am sure they will drop soon. Consequently I did not take the girl I really liked from there (Emi. Sorry don't know the number). But she really warmed me up for the girls I picked up at Ibar later. 555.
Pipe Layer99
01-12-16, 15:55
I was at ibar a few nights back.... snip ...The next cutie I approached straight away said 3K gesticulating with her fingers. I was kinda taken aback because I had barely said Hello, and exchanged names. I looked at her again and then again and blinked thrice while I made up my mind about whether she meant what I thought she meant. She noticed the hesitation and changed her mind and said so. LOL! Talk about being jumped at. Because she was so well dressed I simply didn't expect such a blatant upfront quote. Too bad.Good call on your part. I never take one who talks baht right away. Bad sign right off the bat. And for 3 k? She must be crazy.
Blanquiceleste
01-12-16, 17:05
There is also Sabai Dee and Rasputin, but I haven't tried either one.Rasputin is my favorite soapy in Pattaya. There is a rash of soapies near BigC on 2nd road. Sabai House had great talent a few years ago, while Sabai Dee across the street is also quite good. Honey I & II are good too. But the place I would willingly repeat is Rasputin. And not for the CIS girls, but for the local beauties.
Blanquiceleste
01-12-16, 17:08
I know this list is very subjective and limited so I would like to hear from other BM's on which bars are their favorites. I thought 2015 was a pretty good year. I hope 2016 will be even better.
Great collection, matches my Top 5 in the same order, except for Mandarin. I would replace that with Windmill. I have read solid reviews about Ginza at Pattaya. The name suggest its all Sushi on the menu. Any opinions?
IllusionHeart
01-12-16, 17:10
Thanks everyone for the advice and feedback, much appreciated! This is very helpful.
Seems like Walking Street is the equivalent of BKK's Soi Cowboy or Nana. I'm more interested in places such as La Belle, The Lord, etc, (I much prefer the quiet atmosphere of an soapy to bar streets) but they don't seem to exist in Pattaya. In any case, I'll check out Rasputin and your other suggestions.
Was planning on staying at Aya Boutique Hotel, heard good things about that place, but will check out Bayview Residence too.Rasputin is very good. Selection of girls in the 3 to 4 k baht range is great, at least when I went there in November. I had selected a 4 k baht girl and the room she took me to was better than Lords.
I had visited both in the same trip and provided a comparison. You can read it up in my November FR.
Banana Boi
01-12-16, 18:30
Great collection, matches my Top 5 in the same order, except for Mandarin. I would replace that with Windmill. Windmill is a lot of fun and easily the dirtiest club in Pattaya I visited. However, I will never rank their girls in the top 10 clubs in terms of looks.
I agree with Natty's ranking of the Pattaya clubs except I didn't find hot girls in Happy-a-go-go. Then again I only dropped into Happy twice. What's Up and Sapphire were far and away the best 2 clubs I visited on Walking Street but there are still a handful I never made it to. Sapphire and Crazy House (Bangkok) have a similar feel to them. Lots of fun.
Rasputin is very good. Selection of girls in the 3 to 4 k baht range is great, at least when I went there in November. I had selected a 4 k baht girl and the room she took me to was better than Lords.
I found the girls prettier at Sabai Dee and Honey 2 and top end girls were much cheaper than Rasputin. A couple of the 6-7k baht girls at Rasputin were hotter though. Sabai Room was almost on par with Rasputin. Honey 1 (not in the same area) was inferior imo, although my Thailand buddy likes Honey 1 the most.
Blanquiceleste
01-13-16, 01:23
Windmill is a lot of fun and easily the dirtiest club in Pattaya I visited. However, I will never rank their girls in the top 10 clubs in terms of looks.
I guess I got a bit carried away by the fun and bawdiness factor Natty mentioned. 5555.
Not sure how much research you did but Walking Street is as expensive as you can get. That is where many of the young ones (18-22 year olds) are. A night can easily get out of control and cost 2000 baht in drinks, 1000 barfine, 2000 baht dinner, 2000 baht more for drinks at Insomnia, 4000 baht LT, 1000 baht lunch the next day. 12,000 baht is not what many guys here go for.
The soapies I listed are the high end ones. Rasputin has 7000 baht Russian girls. 1 looked super hot but no chance I was paying that for 90 minutes. 2500-3000 baht is more the range for the nice ones age under 23.
As Wolvenvacht says, don't write off soi 6 just because it's 300 barfine + 1000 to the girl. Some very nice girls can be found if you walk through enough times on your trip.
Tank's list includes quite a few BKK massage places like The Lord, Nataree, Emmanuelle, etc. etc.
re. hotels check the Pattaya Hotels thread.Hello,
Sorry I must have got my list a bit mixed up.
Its going to be my first trip to Thailand in the beginning of Feb, I had complied this list while RTFF'ing and must have got things mixed up.
Thank you for pointing my mistakes out, I will update my list accordingly.
TheTank
This is far from a comprehensive list. I don't visit that many different Go Go's per trip anymore. I tend to rely 10 or so Go Go's that have served me well in the past and then I branch out a little from there. There are three predominate elements that make or break a bar as far as I am concerned: First is the quality of the girls, second is the fun or bawdiness factor of the bar, and third is my previous track record with the girls I have barfined out of each respective Go Go. Basically I go where the quality girls are, but then all things being equal, I like a bar where the girls are nude and where a certain amount of loose personal interaction is involved, even encouraged, and where I have good times. So here are my favorite Go Go's of 2015:
In my two trips there last year the hottest girl I saw was at Peppermint. You had to go early to get her as she long termed out every day I was there last November, so I never got to go out with her. She was a star fish last May when she first arrived, but I have to assume she is more open now. I had hoped to BF her to see, but I got tired of of the pursuit. Back home how, I regret it, soooo, since I have plans to go back in April, I will go in the night before to reserve her.
Peppermint also has a few other hotties, and if you make friends with the mamasan, Luk, you will be taken care of. Takes a lot of lady drinks though.
Pipe Layer99
01-15-16, 13:48
... Peppermint also has a few other hotties, and if you make friends with the mamasan, Luk, you will be taken care of. Takes a lot of lady drinks though.Since when does a guy need to buy lady drinks for mamasan to be taken care of in a gogo? Just go in, get a drink and choose your girl. If you hit it off, take her out. Drinks for you and the girl is all you need.
Pipe Layer99
01-15-16, 13:54
Last night, police were out doing random checks on soi 18 (off 3rd road). Looking for what, I don't know. In any case, to lessen your chances of being pulled over, wear your helmet if you drive a bike. And keep your eyes open to scan ahead. There were at least 10 of them stopping bikes in both directions. They were pulling people over and telling them to go into a another area with a bunch of cops waiting.
Soldierb11
01-15-16, 21:11
Peppermint also has a few other hotties, and if you make friends with the mamasan, Luk, you will be taken care of. Takes a lot of lady drinks though.
Since when does a guy need to buy lady drinks for mamasan to be taken care of in a gogo? Just go in, get a drink and choose your girl. If you hit it off, take her out. Drinks for you and the girl is all you need.You both have valid points here and neither is wrong its just how you like to roll. Pipelayer or FLhawk have their standard operating procedure on mongering and it works for them, Newbies take note of the difference and see what works for you.
Pipelayer is 100% correct, you do not need to buy the mamasan anything, in fact you don't even need to buy the bargirl one drink. Just point and shoot, she will go with you depending on how much she needs the money and what she thinks of you. There is no need to spend an extra baht.
However.
FLHawk buying some lady drinks is not wrong either. Most of the time (most of the time for you sharp shooters) buying the girl 1-2-3 drinks loosens her up and she relaxes with you and you most of the time will reap the benefit of a better session. As for the mamasan there is no need to ply her with drink and more drink but buying her a drink pays dividends if you are looking for something special or unique or frequent a club often. Also buying mamasan a drink when you already have the bargirl seated next to you having a lady drink also increases the girl's reputation with the mamasan and some girls appreciate this and perform better with you. Why? Mamasans make around 300-400 baht a night before tips / lady drinks and that's it! Contrast that with a bar girl who makes 300 baht a night plus trips / lady drinks AND half her bar fine and all her ST / LT fee. Some mamasans put pressure on the girls to ask the customers for a drink for mamasan (yes, this can be annoying) but if paying $6 for mamasan's drink gets me a better chance of a good performance, I usually buy the drink.
Bottom line buying the ladies and mamasans drinks is totally optional. Buying a couple drinks will increase your chances of a better session but by no means guarantee it.
Second take home point here. Guys ALL the time are asking me in Medellin, Bogota, AC, or wherever how are you getting such GFE?? Its simple be a BFE. Treat the girls like a prostitute and your chances that the session will be like fucking a prostitute are higher. Treat the girl like she is your GF, ie buy her a couple drinks in the bar before you BF her, stop off and get something to eat on way back to hotel, perhaps go play pool or listen to music for an hour and then back to hotel room and again your chances of a better session increase (no guarantees in this life) Anecdotal evidence, for awhile now 80% of the posts about AC are guys crying about how girls never stay LT in AC anymore. For those that have never gone to PI before its different than Thailand. There is no pay bar fine and then negotiate with girl ST / LT amount there is just pay bar fine and girls stays with you all night. But Filipinos have been more and more trying to run out after the first session and not staying all night (grandma is sick, my baby is sick, etc etc). Guys are saying AC is dead, stay away etc etc. Its not dead, yes things are changing a bit. But this last October in 9 nights I had 8 all nighters why? Not because I'm good looking or a super stud at all its because I take them out for something to eat (sometimes here in Pattaya that is just 60 baht for street meat but its the thought) buy a few drinks, play pool, dance, etc.
Just my 2 baht.
Since when does a guy need to buy lady drinks for mamasan to be taken care of in a gogo? Just go in, get a drink and choose your girl. If you hit it off, take her out. Drinks for you and the girl is all you need.You don't, but making friends with the mamasan can get you extras. It may not be worth the cost. That would be for you to decide. In my Pattaya report from last May I discuss this a little. I have been negligent in completing my trip report from last November, but I will be posting the last three days of my five day trip soon, and I will discuss this there as well.
But briefly, the mamasan can get you girls that you might not otherwise be able to get, and if the girl knows the mamasan likes you, she will not attempt to cheat you or treat you badly. It doesn't mean you will get a GFE by any means, but if you pay for LT and expect the girl to stay with you until 10 AM and not bug out at 5 AM, and the mamasan has told her to stay until 10 AM, you can be sure she will stay.
You don't, but making friends with the mamasan can get you extras. Your also digging your own grave so to speak. They come to expect it on every visit. They'll then ask you to buy so and so waitress a drink, her friend will join the group and before you know it, every time you step in that bar your expected to fork out 1000 baht on drinks. Saw this happen to my buddy, he came in to set up a prebooking with a gogo girl whom he already had a contact number and before he walked out after his one beer he had a 2000 baht bar bill. I'm not saying its not working for you, just keep the amount of people asking to add to your tab to a minimum. The waitress and her friends can't possibly do anything for you except bring you a beer quicker than normal.
Since when does a guy need to buy lady drinks for mamasan to be taken care of in a gogo?But I had some really great fun interacting with the mamasans and staff! I wrote about it here: 1811124To make a long story short, you don't have to buy a mamasan a damn thing. But, I found that the overall fun I had during my trip was enhanced by my interactions with the Thai people apart from just the sex. Although, I do recall that when I was with my girl "Beeah" from Sahara in Bangkok, I told her while I was fucking her, "And I want you to go back and tell mamasan I got a big dick too!" Hahahaha! Yeah, I'm a fool LOL!
I've been in Pattaya for a couple days now, and will be writing a more detailed FR soon. This is a fascinating, wonderful place, and so very different from Bangkok. I have already visited many soapies (Rasputin, Honey I, Honey II, Sabai Room, Sabai Dee), along with Soi 6 and various places on Walking Street. I'm amazed by what's on offer so out in the open. Even more than in Bangkok!
But one thing I simply cannot find is real Viagra. Every pharmacy I've checked (and I've checked over half a dozen now!) only stocks fake Viagra. You can tell it's fake because the packaging is slightly different, and the pills are rougher looking, and darker in color. I can't seem to find a single store that sells the real stuff. Anyone happen to know a pharmacy I could try?
Thanks so much!
Wolvenvacht
01-16-16, 10:43
But one thing I simply cannot find is real Viagra. Every pharmacy I've checked (and I've checked over half a dozen now!) only stocks fake Viagra. You can tell it's fake because the packaging is slightly different, and the pills are rougher looking, and darker in color. I can't seem to find a single store that sells the real stuff. Anyone happen to know a pharmacy I could try?
Thanks so much!Just go to a pharmacy and ask for Sidegra, which is the Thai generic form of Viagra. Same as Viagra but much cheaper and not fake.
I've been in Pattaya for a couple days now, and will be writing a more detailed FR soon. This is a fascinating, wonderful place, and so very different from Bangkok. I have already visited many soapies (Rasputin, Honey I, Honey II, Sabai Room, Sabai Dee), along with Soi 6 and various places on Walking Street. I'm amazed by what's on offer so out in the open. Even more than in Bangkok!
But one thing I simply cannot find is real Viagra. Every pharmacy I've checked (and I've checked over half a dozen now!) only stocks fake Viagra. You can tell it's fake because the packaging is slightly different, and the pills are rougher looking, and darker in color. I can't seem to find a single store that sells the real stuff. Anyone happen to know a pharmacy I could try?
Thanks so much!Last month I went into a random big pharmacy in soi Dianna and asked for a box of Sidegra, which is the official and state controlled Thai variant, available after the Viagra license expired in Thailand, contrary to eg the UK, where Pfizer is still able to extend the license by lawsuits.
I paid, I believe, 300 bht for a box of 4 x 100 MG, you can probably get it at slight better prices if you negotiate or buy bigger quantities.
I've never tried any vitamin V yet, just wanted to have it ready for contingencies.
The expiry date is 2018, so I still have lot's of time for getting into the right situation for contingencies 55.
Eric Swiss
01-17-16, 06:41
I went to some go-go bars to warm up before moving to Insomnia. The key is to be there at the right time with the right mount of alcohol in your blood stream. If you're too enibriated you cannot perform, if you're too sober you cannot eye-contact the girls. If you're too early the vibe is dead, if you're too late the good ones are gone. My equation is: if you're on your third beer of the night at the I-bar at 2 am then you're on. May need to adjust for body weight.
Anyway, I made a few rounds and was sort of on my way out when I walked past this girl and eye-contacted her. This basically means I looked her up and down and undressed her with my x-ray vision. She wasn't overly responsive, but she wasn't dismissive either. So I plowed on. Opened the conversation, made some chit-chat, a bit of kino (that means sexually charged touching), and then I thought it was on. I really liked her face and her smile. Her body looked pretty hot in a tight dress, but only go-go dancers bare enough for you to check the real merchandise before renting it.
We ejected really quickly. Her friends gave her the A-OK. 1500 Baht was the agreed number for short time. I took her to Oasis motel.
I took my time showering. Then we snuggled under the real bed linens. I made the joke that we were going to sleep but of course nothing of the sort happened. Just to say it was very comfortable and felt like a real pickup. There was excellent chemistry. She was really into it. I had no problem maintaining an erection in spite of the absence of pharmaceutical help and the amount of alcohol ingested. She was a real goer in the sack. I think with these girls, if you pretend it's a completely normal interaction, they just GFE you, and they forget about the 1500 Baht until after the deed is done. Then, of course, they magically remember.
Anyway, I wanted some variety, so I came on her tits. I just loved seeing her in the ceiling mirror in such an unrushed way. I could have banged her all night.
Would I repeat? The Ibar yes, the key is to get the timing just right, because then it is impossible to not get laid. The girl was good, but new girls always win. Would I recommend? Yes, just make sure you get warmed up at a go-go before, otherwise it can be pretty dreary or forbidding out there, especially if you don't have a wing man.
I had been to BKK nana plaza as well as Soi Cowboy gogos, everything was ok, but just gulping down drinks after drinks fills the bladder pretty fast. I was not able to find a toilet nearby. I had to walk a mile to a shopping mall to releive myself. Where are the toilets located in these gogo bar areas? I am planning a trip to Pattaya shortly. So was just curious to know Sorry if it again sounds stupid, but it is a basic requirement. Do these bars have a toilet inside every bar for public use?
Hows the experience at Galaxy Club. Have heard that it is different from the routine gogos. There they have European girls and erotic on stage shows, which is not found anywhere else. Althouth the rates are bit on higher side. They also provide private shows.
Any experience from xpats?
Thanks,
Banana Boi
01-17-16, 08:37
The Russian clubs on Walking Street were busted 3 weeks ago so not sure if the girls have been deported. I equate them to a ping pong show in Patpong.
The gogo bars on Walking Street have toilets and so do the ones I went to in Soi Cowboy. Which clubs did you go to with no toilets?
Wolvenvacht
01-17-16, 08:47
Do these bars have a toilet inside every bar for public use?Yes, I think so. Why didn't you ask one of the waitresses?
And in the unlikely case there is no toilet, outside NEP there are so many open bars where you can just walk in, go to the toilet and walk out again even without ordering a drink.
Do these bars have a toilet inside every bar for public use?I actually did some Toilet Research on my recent visit, and I can assure you most gogos do have toilets on premises, with the exception of Heaven Above, in which case you need to exit the bar and turn right.
By the way, Heaven Above had extremely high drink pressure, so you might want to give it a miss, not a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140).
Can you believe the bar fine at Taboo on Walking st is 3.000 B? ST.
There's a toilet inside almost every gogo bar on Soi Cowboy. I've never had a problem with this at all! And every gogo bar I've been to on my Pattaya trip has a toilet too.
I had been to BKK nana plaza as well as Soi Cowboy gogos, everything was ok, but just gulping down drinks after drinks fills the bladder pretty fast. I was not able to find a toilet nearby. I had to walk a mile to a shopping mall to releive myself. Where are the toilets located in these gogo bar areas? I am planning a trip to Pattaya shortly. So was just curious to know Sorry if it again sounds stupid, but it is a basic requirement. Do these bars have a toilet inside every bar for public use?
LittleBigMan
01-17-16, 13:42
I had been to BKK nana plaza as well as Soi Cowboy gogos, everything was ok, but just gulping down drinks after drinks fills the bladder pretty fast. I was not able to find a toilet nearby. I had to walk a mile to a shopping mall to releive myself. Where are the toilets located in these gogo bar areas? I am planning a trip to Pattaya shortly. So was just curious to know Sorry if it again sounds stupid, but it is a basic requirement. Do these bars have a toilet inside every bar for public use?I do some of my best work, in the toilets of Go Go's especially the larger one's with the spray hose. After I'm done. The attendant squeezes the soap for me, turn on the water and provide me with a hot hand towel. I have no problem giving this guy a 100 baht tip, to be honest I feel short changing him after he see what I did to his toilet?
Uncle Volodya
01-17-16, 15:54
Anyway, I made a few rounds and was sort of on my way out when I walked past this girl and eye-contacted her. This basically means I looked her up and down and undressed her with my x-ray vision. She wasn't overly responsive, but she wasn't dismissive either. So I plowed on. Opened the conversation, made some chit-chat, a bit of kino (that means sexually charged touching), and then I thought it was on. I really liked her face and her smile. Her body looked pretty hot in a tight dress, but only go-go dancers bare enough for you to check the real merchandise before renting it.
If so Kudos: I know she is picky.
I know her and her friends pretty well. One of her friends used to be my regular. We broke up but are on still pretty good terms. A fun group and they are at Ibar every night. I usually stop by and hang with them for a little bit when I am in town. They know the owners and get treated like royalty. 555.
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