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Here's a baht bus map showing the route BM has described.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zVnp-O9vYosM.k-v4A-udg1eU&hl=en_US
Thanks for the great info. I'm usually on a scooter but this map.
Makes it easy to explore the city on the bath bus.
ManOfMystery
02-14-16, 03:36
Just wondering if anyone could recommend their favorite spot to get a decent haircut.
This is my second go around in Pattaya. I visited last February as well. I arrived Friday night and headed over to walking street. First stop was Windmill. While the girls overall aren't the best looking, I must say this was the most fun atmosphere I've experienced in a gogo. The place was packed. But everyone, guys and girls alike had big smiles and was having a really good time. I didn't get much attention, not upset by that though as pretty much every girl was either on stage or occupied with another guy. A really fun vibe to the place though, and I'm sure I'll be back another night. Walked up and down the street then settled on my old personal favorite from last year, Sensations. Lots of girls, lots of big tits. A waitress I barfined last year still worked there, she remembered me as soon as she saw me. I was tired after the traveling during the day and didn't want a super late first night, so I brought her back to my hotel. What was great though, was that I didn't have to buy her any drinks. There were two older Korean gentlemen sitting next to me. Although it seemed pretty clear, to me at least, the girl was with me, the two guys kept trying to take her away. They kept taking advantage of the fact she still had to do her waitress duties by calling her over to get them drinks. So they'd buy drinks and kept feeding her shots. She'd sit with them for a couple of minutes, let them put their arms around her and talk. She'd excuse herself and come back to me. After a bit, she told me she was getting a little drunk and asked if we could leave. So these two dudes loosened her up for me and saved me the cash while I still got the bang. Douche moves on their parts in my opinion as they were clearly trying to get her away from me.
Blanquiceleste
02-14-16, 07:00
Here's a baht bus map showing the route BM has described.
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zVnp-O9vYosM.k-v4A-udg1eU&hl=en_US
Very useful and relevant information BB. This is great stuff. Although, when I look at this map, one question springs to mind. What happened to routes 2, 3 and 4.
5555.
Thanks for the great info. I'm usually on a scooter but this map.
Makes it easy to explore the city on the bath bus.Yes this is great info. Thanks for posting. Does the Jomtien baht bus charge 10 baht to go from Pattaya to Jomtien?
Wolvenvacht
02-14-16, 09:26
Yes this is great info. Thanks for posting. Does the Jomtien baht bus charge 10 baht to go from Pattaya to Jomtien?Yes, it appears that distance is not a factor in the pricing.
...Do a Google image search for: "Pattaya Soi 6 bar map".
I live in Pattaya and not really need the MAP. But anyway I did Google and did find the MAP. But get blocked from Avast. The Page contains Maleware!!
Wolvenvacht
02-14-16, 13:10
I live in Pattaya and not really need the MAP. But anyway I did Google and did find the MAP. But get blocked from Avast. The Page contains Maleware!!Of course, all bar-maps are MALE-ware!
What I know about Thai women I could write a fucking book, I speak fluent Thai, been here 12 years, if you knew what they say about us in there own language you would be shocked, we are ATM machines simple as that, put it this way if there was a list of 10 things, faring would be at the bottom, even buffalo is above us, so, don't try to tell me anything about life here and what goes on, they are the biggest liars in the world and Thais have a long game, they will sit and wait 10 years while they wear you down and get your cash.
Wake up and smell the coffee dude.I live in Pattaya and speak fluent Thai also. Yes you get the occasional comment but maybe more is directed at you? Do you sit all day drinking LEO in a wife beater never smiling or using your fluent Thai to be polite to people? Couple of questions for you. Q 1. Why are you on a sex forum if you're not sleeping with Thai women. Q 2. If you hate or distrust half the population (or more) that much why don't you fuck off somewhere where you actually like and respect the people?
Banana Boi
02-14-16, 17:52
First stop was Windmill. While the girls overall aren't the best looking, I must say this was the most fun atmosphere I've experienced in a gogo. The place was packed. But everyone, guys and girls alike had big smiles and was having a really good time. I didn't get much attention, not upset by that though as pretty much every girl was either on stage or occupied with another guy. A really fun vibe to the place though, and I'm sure I'll be back another night. Patience is definitely required waiting for the girl you want at Windmill. Since it's so cheap to keep the same girl for hours returning another night may be the best option.
Looking forward to the rest of your Pattaya reviews.
Not all girls are available to barfine as a warning. If you spot a girl and want to buy her a drink to losen her up for a barfine, make sure you ask if she barfines. If your ok with buying a drink just to talk to a cute girl and aren't bothered with spending a few extra bucks, do so and enjoy her company. That being said, I was at Pandora agogo in LK Metro, bought a girl a ladydrink and when I asked about barfining she basically cut me off any possible takeout. She then went onstage and then came back to sit down with her friend, mamasan was soon in front asking if I wanted to buy them both drinks when I informed her "this girl won't barfine, why would I buy ladydrinks" and walked out. They don't want to barfine for whatever reason but are still decent company, I'll buy them a drink but if they flat out refuse to go with you outside the club but will go with others, then I tell them to shove off.
Yes this is great info. Thanks for posting. Does the Jomtien baht bus charge 10 baht to go from Pattaya to Jomtien?Yes B10 from the corner of south road and 2nd road to about soi 9 on Jomtien beach road. They wait until full to go though.
I live in Pattaya and speak fluent Thai also. Yes you get the occasional comment but maybe more is directed at you? Do you sit all day drinking LEO in a wife beater never smiling or using your fluent Thai to be polite to people? Couple of questions for you. Q 1. Why are you on a sex forum if you're not sleeping with Thai women. Q 2. If you hate or distrust half the population (or more) that much why don't you fuck off somewhere where you actually like and respect the people?Oh dear dear, must have touched a nerve Mr Cusland, go back and read the posts my touchy friend, where did I say I never slept with Thai women? I never said that, I said I don't get involved in relations with them, I fuck them short time, I even stated here they make great fuck buddies. For gods sake, can you not read dear man,? Maybe I should write it in Thai for you?
Secondly, I can live where the fuck I like, and I can comment on what the fuck I like, because of free speech, now if you don't like my posts, you can fuck off from the forum, its easy enough, our simply don't read my posts. Oh, and thirdly, I don't drink either, so, no, don't drink LEO, or beat the wife, so your wrong on all 3 points, never mind sir, we can't all be right can we? Have a nice day.
Pipe Layer99
02-15-16, 09:32
Not all girls are available to barfine as a warning. If you spot a girl and want to buy her a drink to losen her up for a barfine, make sure you ask if she barfines. If your ok with buying a drink just to talk to a cute girl and aren't bothered with spending a few extra bucks, do so and enjoy her company. That being said, I was at Pandora agogo in LK Metro, bought a girl a ladydrink and when I asked about barfining she basically cut me off any possible takeout. She then went onstage and then came back to sit down with her friend, mamasan was soon in front asking if I wanted to buy them both drinks when I informed her "this girl won't barfine, why would I buy ladydrinks" and walked out. They don't want to barfine for whatever reason but are still decent company, I'll buy them a drink but if they flat out refuse to go with you outside the club but will go with others, then I tell them to shove off. That's right. Always better to ask them first. I get my drink first then talk to the one or two that interest me. After a minute or two of conversation, if I am considering taking the girl out of the bar, I will ask her if she can barfine tonight. This way at least I know she is available or not. She might say no; already been barfined and waiting for the guy to pick her up; on her period, etc. In that case, no need to buy her a drink.
Now, if she is actually good company, and I want to keep around a little bit, sure she can have a drink.
But for the one I am thinking of barfining, I generally ask upfront. Better to find out sooner than later. Plus if she is not available, you can immediately start to look for an alternate, or finish your drink and go to another bar.
That's right. Always better to ask them first. I get my drink first then talk to the one or two that interest me. After a minute or two of conversation, if I am considering taking the girl out of the bar, I will ask her if she can barfine tonight. This way at least I know she is available or not. She might say no; already been barfined and waiting for the guy to pick her up; on her period, etc. In that case, no need to buy her a drink.
Now, if she is actually good company, and I want to keep around a little bit, sure she can have a drink.
But for the one I am thinking of barfining, I generally ask upfront. Better to find out sooner than later. Plus if she is not available, you can immediately start to look for an alternate, or finish your drink and go to another bar.Be careful PL99. You are making to much common sense.
What these guys need to understand is they are not your fucking girlfriend. You are entering into a business transaction, weather a BF or just for her company in the club and you should act accordingly. Find out where you stand up front as you would in any Bizz transaction before you pay.
Example:
Hello, I would like a Pizza. Here's $20. Ok here is your pizza. Wait I wanted pepperoni and this is just cheese. You didn't say you wanted pepperoni so fuck off.
Always best to be clear on what you want up front.
It is not a personal invention, but a method that was discovered / developed by some statisticians to find an answer to the following problem:
"How to choose the best candidate from a list of candidates, given that you do not know what quality the next candidate has and once a candidate has been examined and not chosen, you cannot go back and choose her".
This is of course very close to our mongering experience: you see a lovely in one bar, but you hesitate to take her since there is likely to be a better one in the next bar. But if you don't find that next more lovely one, it appears your first choice is now already taken by another punter.
So how to solve this problem?
It turns out to be quite simple (I spare you the underlying statistics).
Just go on your usual bar / agogo / club / disco / . . . Crawl and choose as you usually do. Interview likely candidates and give them a score. That is of course the hairy part and is highly individual. Your high score may not be my high score, but that doesn't matter provided you use a consistent scoring system during the same experiment and a higher score means the candidate is better in your eyes.
Remember the highest score among the first three or four (the actual cut-off point lies somewhere between 3 and 4, but one cannot do a "half interview") , but don't take any of these candidates. Just be cool and relaxed about this rule: if you meet a girl that gives you an instant hard-on and makes you almost cream your shorts just by looking into her eyes, by all means take her and f*ck the experiment and science.
Then continue your quest and keep on scoring next candidates until you find one that scores higher than the top score of the first three. That's the one to take.
It can be proven statistically that it is more likely than not that if you continue your search (and assume you cannot interview more than 10 candidates in one night) you will not find a better one. If I remember well, the odds are about 60 against 40 this method finds you the best candidate.
Of course you will agree it is a rather strange method: examining three candidates knowing you will not pick them. Though luck for those early birds, indeed and you will probably best move to another bar after each interview in order not to draw strange glances. Also it takes some effort and time (and money) that we cannot always invest.
But there is a short-cut possible!
Assuming the population of WG remains more or less the same during a certain period of time (say a few weeks maximum) and you can keep your scoring system the same, then each next night you can simply skip the "first three interviews" and use the highest score of your first night as the threshold point for the next nights.
Mind you this method does not guarantee you end up with the best possible candidate, but it will guarantee you that your choice is likely to be better than making a random choice from a sequential list of candidates where the quality of the "next candidate" is an unknown.Dude, the Universe is fucking with you and you don't seem to realize it! It's a mathematical Universe, silly! You only think you can control the events of the future. It's all an illusion. LOL.
Steppenwolf11
02-15-16, 13:36
I am currently in Pattaya and wow its full. Lots of Chinese, Russian, Indian Guys and wherever they come from. I even saw a whole chinese damily leaving a Gogo. And I spotted a Gogo I overlooked on my last visits: Champions Gogo. Maybe I take a look tonight as most gogos yesterday were not really to my liking.
Whats Up:
I visited just a few minutes after they opened. They were still going down the list of girls and calling every girl by name. So every girl was standing at the pole / dancing areas. Nice experience and nice decoration too, but like last time I just did not like the place.
Mistys:
I was there around midnight and although I did find the girls to be not attractive they were fun even if the place had only a handful of customers. So I had a good time there.
Angelwitch:
No reason to go there.
Sapphire:
I like the place and a few girls there. But they are just a bit too short for my taste.
Living Dolls 1:
Probably won't visit again.
Iron and Skyfall:
Quite good but also quite a few chinese there. Also Lineup seems to be thinned out / some good girls missing when I was there. I saw some thai customers there too.
I would say all in all it's quite hard to find a good girl. At the moment.
Banana Boi
02-15-16, 16:37
I would say all in all it's quite hard to find a good girl. At the moment.I was a bit shocked at your statement until I remembered you were the guy who wrote this.
I must write too about what kind of women I am looking for because I don't look for small (around 150 cm) young (look like schoolgirl) but for a more taller (at least 160 cm) and also a bit mor mature woman. Not exactly MILF but say mid-twenties. I did see girls looking like 14 and girls with a superb body. But if she looks and behaves like a schoolgirl its just nothing for me (exceptions are rare but exist)The most discussed WS gogo's are likely not the best place to find your type of girls. They're full of young petite girls. You may want to try some of the lesser discussed gogo's like Casanovy's (sp?) or a place like Marine Disco for the older girls.
Uncle Volodya
02-15-16, 17:19
Yes you will get girls going with you from I bar for 1500/2000 long time, but usually that's after you've spent a fortune buying them drinks.Yes that's the rub with Ibar. Sometimes it is worthwhile to just offer her a little more off the bat (say 500 baht) and escape that drink tax (especially if she is there with a big group of friends). And you will have her back in your "loom" for much longer too.
Then again, you can develop a better rapport when you drink and party with them. Which leads to a better experience overall. So there is no exact science to this. Just don't let them lead you by the nose and take charge when you feel its time to go home. This is a country where the man is king. Don't forget that.
Uncle Volodya
02-15-16, 17:23
I would say all in all it's quite hard to find a good girl. At the moment.If you are looking for older more mature girls you just have to go to the right places. A lot of them at Red Car or Insomnia. I's skip WS gogos and focus on LK Metro Area or Soi 7-8. I think Pattaya will be a gold mine for you.
I have the opposite problem. I like the younger girls. And it can really be hard to find good ones at times.
Uncle Volodya
02-15-16, 17:32
Reflecting back I couldn't help but to compare Thai girls with local girls here in Vietnam. Its better for me in Vietnam. I like Vietnamese girls better. There are lots of options for me here, paid and free, however Pattaya felt like luxury living compared to the everyday hassles of Vietnam. I might go back to Pattaya but not for the women but its a cheap option with $95 flights to BKK and 122 baht bus to the beach. Next time I may just bring my own girl and be a normal smuck in Jomtien but if I was back in America in my little cubicle living a boring life with no action then Pattaya would be paradise, and I can see the attraction, and what's most important is to do whatever the fuck you want to do! .I envy you living in VN, man. Girls there are very lovely and so affectionate. I have a VN girl that I meet up with a few times a year and its is always magic.
I feel like the scene there is so much more restricted there and very difficult if you are not a local. But it must be amazing to be a local living there. What I wouldn't give to be in your shoes!
MusicalToM
02-15-16, 19:42
1-Read a lot about DD girls being mechanical. More like just doing there job rather than enjoying it. This kind of attitude is definitely not good for customers.
2-In my upcoming trip I'm planning to opt for DD girl in the first night rather than going to gogo / night club. I don't know whether I'm doing the right thing. Someone experienced can help me I guess.
3-I checked out the DD website & they have quite a list of girls listed over there. Do they list all the available girls over there or there are other more girls available if someone visit to their place?
4-I believe all the girls working in DD are available for LT out call. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Wolvenvacht
02-15-16, 20:12
Dude, the Universe is fucking with you and you don't seem to realize it! It's a mathematical Universe, silly! You only think you can control the events of the future. It's all an illusion. LOL.Man, I'm a Buddhist and an ordained Priest of the Church of the Latter Day Dude, so I know what life is about and how to manage it and that it is all illusion.
I don't want to control the events of the future, but some judicious stacking of the cards in my favor can do no harm!
Man, I'm a Buddhist and an ordained Priest of the Church of the Latter Day Dude, so I know what life is about and how to manage it and that it is all illusion.
I don't want to control the events of the future, but some judicious stacking of the cards in my favor can do no harm!Ok, I'll try to work on that for you! .
But, be forewarned it will probably produce other, unforeseen, higher and lower order side effects, in your local Universe. . Haha. LOL!
Your friendly Genie!
Blanquiceleste
02-16-16, 01:23
1-Read a lot about DD girls being mechanical. More like just doing there job rather than enjoying it. This kind of attitude is definitely not good for customers.
2-In my upcoming trip I'm planning to opt for DD girl in the first night rather than going to gogo / night club. I don't know whether I'm doing the right thing. Someone experienced can help me I guess.
3-I checked out the DD website & they have quite a list of girls listed over there. Do they list all the available girls over there or there are other more girls available if someone visit to their place?
4-I believe all the girls working in DD are available for LT out call. Correct me if I'm wrong.There is a ton of information posted about Devil's Den on the forum. If you need more "comfort" simply call the establishment and speak with David. He is a real gentleman and will help address all your questions. All the girls there are genuinely bisexual. To avoid the mechanical feel I would advise you to select one girl and then let her pick the second girl. She will pick the one she is most comfortable with, allowing for a real good experience. Prices are fixed and the girls will do everything that they have signed up for (as mentioned in the website on their respective pages). But you have to ask for it. Also, once you pay up for the time, you can have as many pops as you can manage within that time slot and the girls will do everything in their power to encourage you to do so. The experience is best enjoyed at DD premises, as their rooms are truly well equipped for this. Back in your room, its just not the same.
The girls listed are all available for take out and the price structure is published. I would advise you to NOT engage a DD girl for LT, however. There are other fish in the ocean.
ManOfMystery
02-16-16, 04:17
Checked out a soapy for the first time on Saturday. I'm really bad with names, the place was pretty huge. They had a sign in front saying men and women welcome, no cover charge. Something like that. Lots of girls of course with a wide range of choices. Older, younger, bigger, smaller, etc. I chose the hottest one for my type, tan skin, big boobs, petite and great smile. Cost me 2400. We had a good time together, she was a lot of fun and the sex was very good. I enjoyed the experience but one soapy visit is enough, at least for this trip.
Sunday I went to Soi 6. I had walked down this street once last year and honestly I thought the guys hyping it up were crazy. I didn't see anyplace worth entering and lots of ladyboys prancing around. This trip I figured there has to be something to it that I missed since guys still go on about it so I hopped on a baht bus and returned to Soi 6. I must say that I am very glad that I did. Lots of clunkers and still ladyboys but my first walk down the street I saw plenty of cute girls and good options to stop in for a beer and a bang. I settled on "Kiss and Smoke" I think was the name. Lots of cute girls. Picked one out, had a drink together and we had to wait for a room since there were so many customers. I saw bunch of dudes leaving with their girls as I waited for a room to open and all of their choices were attractive as well. Beers were about 100 each, room 300, and the girl asked for 1000. I gave her a tip at the end. Good experience and I'll be back to the Soi 6 for sure.
Sunday night, I vowed not to get a go-go girl and save some cash. Just wanted to hop around and took advantage of the places offering cheap drafts. Also went to the places giving free shot with a beer coupons. Of course these places generally don't have the top quality girls so I went in with low expectations. Rightfully so hehe. I forget most of their names but "Wildcats" I think was one. Had a free shot there. Girls were busted although there was one attractive girl with a customer. I guess she liked being the big fish in a small pond as she had the looks to work in a higher end club. Another club that stood out was Electric Blue. Two stages, one fully nude girls that for the most part were attractive but none that really got the blood pumping. The second stage was bikini and prettier girls. Not many customers, one older gentleman though was eating out all of the fully nude girls on the first stage. Quite funny watching the procession as they took turns getting fingered and eaten out. To each his own I guess. Quite drunk, I ended up at Ibar. Met up with two chicks. Made out with one, and the girls were holding their own buying rounds of drinks. Pretty drunk I called it a night some time after 3 I think. Got the girl's number, maybe I'll call her, maybe I won't we shall see.
Yesterday I got a tattoo in the morning into the afternoon. I work in China so I have a Chinese bank card which I was having problems with. Thus, I had a bit of a money scare yesterday and laid low effectively wasting the day. Things are sorted out now so I'm back in action. Going to look for a massage and try and find a place to get my god awful haircut fixed. I went to a haircut place and thought, how bad could it be? Well, it's bad.
Steppenwolf11
02-16-16, 04:50
If you are looking for older more mature girls you just have to go to the right places. A lot of them at Red Car or Insomnia. I's skip WS gogos and focus on LK Metro Area or Soi 7-8. I think Pattaya will be a gold mine for you.
I have the opposite problem. I like the younger girls. And it can really be hard to find good ones at times.Regarding young girls: What do say about the girls at Sapphire? I talked to one who said she is 19. Is that the age you are looking for?
Regarding girls I look for (really good looking, tall and a bit more mature say 25-28): Finding good looking girls who are tall is the main problem (there are lots of mature girls but they don't meet my criteria). And whenever I find a girl I like she drinks like she just comes out of a desert. 3 drinks in 15 minutes seems to be the norm. And they seem to be quite inventive on how I should spend my money.
Yesterday I went to some Gogos I wasn't before at LK Metro:
TOUCH.
Nice place. I will probably come back.
KAOS.
Quite good but small and not many girls.
Uncle Volodya
02-16-16, 08:28
Regarding young girls: What do say about the girls at Sapphire? I talked to one who said she is 19. Is that the age you are looking for?
Regarding girls I look for (really good looking, tall and a bit more mature say 25-28): Finding good looking girls who are tall is the main problem (there are lots of mature girls but they don't meet my criteria). .Now I get what you are saying. Yes that is a tough (or tall. Pun intended) order! There used to be a couple of cute tall girls at Ruby (I fondly remember Mintny) but they have long since gone.
19 is great and I am most definitely attracted to them. The younger ones really look better. But I find them to be too much of a pain in the ass behavior wise. To be hones 22-30 is what I look for. So maybe our tastes are not all that different. Most Thai girls look so much younger than they really are that age doesn't' mater all that much anyway.
Steppenwolf11
02-16-16, 09:01
Now I get what you are saying. Yes that is a tough (or tall. Pun intended) order! There used to be a couple of cute tall girls at Ruby (I fondly remember Mintny) but they have long since gone.
19 is great and I am most definitely attracted to them. The younger ones really look better. But I find them to be too much of a pain in the ass behavior wise. To be hones 22-30 is what I look for. So maybe our tastes are not all that different. Most Thai girls look so much younger than they really are that age doesn't' mater all that much anyway.Our tastes may not be so different. Thai girls are aging fast that's true. Especially with their western diet today. But for me the young ones really look (and often behave) like big kids. I remember my first time in Pattaya when a girl talked to me and I replied that she looks too young (like 18). And she said she hears that often although she real was 24 years old.
Iron had a good looking tall girl, but not yesterday when I was there.
Gin And Tonic
02-16-16, 09:13
I picked up a 7 month pregnant, 21 year old (verified) spinner on Beach Rd last week for short time. If anyone is interested in striking that off your Thai Bucket List she was sitting near the police box about halfway between Klang and Walking Street. You have to look close because she is a small lady and wears a wrap covering her very ripe belly.
I'm on the lookout for a sweet looking tomboy. There was one in the market bar complex in Jomtien but she disappeared before I could ask about bar fining. Anyone point me in the right direction please?
Pipe Layer99
02-16-16, 09:23
If you are looking for older more mature girls you just have to go to the right places. A lot of them at Red Car or Insomnia. I's skip WS gogos and focus on LK Metro Area or Soi 7-8. I think Pattaya will be a gold mine for you.He said 'more' mature around mid 20's. He doesn't want those young looking ones, like 18,19, 20 year old girls (who also act that age). I imagine her wants them around 25 and up and with some meat on their bones. :)
UV, you are right in guiding him to ALL of the places you mentioned. Something for everyone.
Pipe Layer99
02-16-16, 09:31
There is a ton of information posted about Devil's Den on the forum. If you need more "comfort" simply call the establishment and speak with David. He is a real gentleman and will help address all your questions. All the girls there are genuinely bisexual. To avoid the mechanical feel I would advise you to select one girl and then let her pick the second girl. She will pick the one she is most comfortable with, allowing for a real good experience. Prices are fixed and the girls will do everything that they have signed up for (as mentioned in the website on their respective pages). But you have to ask for it. Also, once you pay up for the time, you can have as many pops as you can manage within that time slot and the girls will do everything in their power to encourage you to do so. The experience is best enjoyed at DD premises, as their rooms are truly well equipped for this. Back in your room, its just not the same.
The girls listed are all available for take out and the price structure is published. I would advise you to NOT engage a DD girl for LT, however. There are other fish in the ocean.Excellent advice!
I would also add that your should wait to see how you feel when you arrive. You might be too tired, with jetlag, to do two girls at the same time. If you take two (and you are paying for double the price), you should be well rested so you can really enjoy it and get at least 2 pops.
Pipe Layer99
02-16-16, 09:38
.... And whenever I find a girl I like she drinks like she just comes out of a desert. 3 drinks in 15 minutes seems to be the norm. And they seem to be quite inventive on how I should spend my money.
....Did you read my post from yesterday? If not, take a look.
Tad bit of rain this afternoon, weathing it on soi 6. Best place to get caught.
I remember when I used to come here and be so happy to have a female but since I live here and have easy access I have developed a certain taste in Asian girls and I just haven't met any here yet.A friend's Thai GF once said (in Thai of course), "When Farang first come to Thailand, their eyes don't work. " I kind of agree with that. When I first came I found the Isaan look "exotic;" now I find it a bit well, on the simian side, especially gals from the south of Isaan. There are some exceptions. Gals from Nakhon Panom and the other provinces that border with Lao tend to be a bit fairer and easier on the eye. Once met a Japanese guy in Thermae and had a rather long conversation with him. At one point he asked me which gals I found attractive. I pointed out the hottest white skinned gals in the place. He told me that I had "good taste" and went along to ask me why Western men liked gals who "looked like monkeys. " I laughed and said, not all of us.
I too find Viets much more attractive than Thais. I have also found them on the whole to be better in bed than Thai gals. There is an aggression with Viets that is missing in Thais. Envy you living in Vietnam. Maybe one day I will check out living there, but for now ties (no pun intended) keep me in Thailand.
SimpleGuy85
02-16-16, 11:27
Please guide as to which are good MP offering FS on Beach Road in Pattaya. What are the tentative costs and which have good collection of women. Prefer busty mature women.
I picked up a 7 month pregnant, 21 year old (verified) spinner on Beach Rd last week for short time. If anyone is interested in striking that off your Thai Bucket List she was sitting near the police box about halfway between Klang and Walking Street. You have to look close because she is a small lady and wears a wrap covering her very ripe belly.
I'm on the lookout for a sweet looking tomboy. There was one in the market bar complex in Jomtien but she disappeared before I could ask about bar fining. Anyone point me in the right direction please?I believe I had a nice session with her 1,5 month ago. Was a bit astonished when I did see her belly back at the hotel room. But what the heck. It did end up as s nice experience.
Optimist Me
02-16-16, 12:25
There is a ton of information posted about Devil's Den on the forum. If you need more "comfort" simply call the establishment and speak with David. He is a real gentleman and will help address all your questions. All the girls there are genuinely bisexual. To avoid the mechanical feel I would advise you to select one girl and then let her pick the second girl. She will pick the one she is most comfortable with, allowing for a real good experience. Prices are fixed and the girls will do everything that they have signed up for (as mentioned in the website on their respective pages). But you have to ask for it. Also, once you pay up for the time, you can have as many pops as you can manage within that time slot and the girls will do everything in their power to encourage you to do so. The experience is best enjoyed at DD premises, as their rooms are truly well equipped for this. Back in your room, its just not the same.
The girls listed are all available for take out and the price structure is published. I would advise you to NOT engage a DD girl for LT, however. There are other fish in the ocean.Hi,
What is the best time to visit DD for maximum availability of girls.
Steppenwolf11
02-16-16, 12:26
Did you read my post from yesterday? If not, take a look.That one where you advise to ask upfront wether she can be barfined (that I normally do)?
Gin And Tonic
02-16-16, 17:47
Please guide as to which are good MP offering FS on Beach Road in Pattaya. What are the tentative costs and which have good collection of women. Prefer busty mature women.On pattaya South Rd next to Bamboo Bar, just around the corner from Beach Rd & the Walking St entrance. Name is Bamboo Massage, many Indian guys going in there.
Mr Enternational
02-16-16, 17:55
A friend's Thai GF once said (in Thai of course), "When Farang first come to Thailand, their eyes don't work. " I kind of agree with that. When I first came I found the Isaan look "exotic;" now I find it a bit well, on the simian side, especially gals from the south of Isaan. There are some exceptions. Gals from Nakhon Panom and the other provinces that border with Lao tend to be a bit fairer and easier on the eye.People have different tastes and different types and to say that one is better than the other is just plain stupid when discussing human beings. For me Vietnamese chicks were shit. They have absolutely zero ass. Every girl that I fucked in Vietnam I had to put a pillow under their ass to keep my nuts from dragging the sheets. Or if I was hitting them from the back I got bones jabbing me in my pelvis. Not my idea of a good time.
Little bit of afternoon rain came a pouring today, I was in a beer bar on beach road and soi 8 playing pool so the weather was an interesting distraction. Many took refuge except for one group going past in force, guys from India. For the price of a beer you could easily find yourself out of the weather, but they trooped on with better thoughts for their baht?
Weather broke just long enough for me to get on a baht bus and make it to soi 6, then the downpour came. This is by far the best road to be stuck on in a rainstorm, tons of girls and few guys pacing down the street. I knew which bars to seek shelter and had a harem of girls in each vying for my attention.
RockyHardy21
02-16-16, 21:07
Little bit of afternoon rain came a pouring today, I was in a beer bar on beach road and soi 8 playing pool so the weather was an interesting distraction. Many took refuge except for one group going past in force, guys from India. For the price of a beer you could easily find yourself out of the weather, but they trooped on with better thoughts for their baht?
Weather broke just long enough for me to get on a baht bus and make it to soi 6, then the downpour came. This is by far the best road to be stuck on in a rainstorm, tons of girls and few guys pacing down the street. I knew which bars to seek shelter and had a harem of girls in each vying for my attention.Are you sure they were Indians. Because in my last trip when I was walking o beach road with a gal from sensation, I saw two Indian guys talking to one gal about how much she will charge for 4 people in a room, the girls was right asking 1500*4. And these guys were haggling around. Than I tried to explain these guys why they are spoiling the name of a country and I realized they were from Pakistan. One more thing I came to know all the Indian restaurant run in Pattaya are either Bangladeshi or Pakistanis.
That day my gal from Sensation also agreed that too. I am neither Indian nor Pakistani but I have lived almost 2 years in India and realized that apart from the poor population the mongering populations is gentleman enough.
Are you sure they were Indians. Because in my last trip when I was walking o beach road with a gal from sensation, I saw two Indian guys talking to one gal about how much she will charge for 4 people in a room, the girls was right asking 1500*4. And these guys were haggling around. Than I tried to explain these guys why they are spoiling the name of a country and I realized they were from Pakistan. One more thing I came to know all the Indian restaurant run in Pattaya are either Bangladeshi or Pakistanis.
That day my gal from Sensation also agreed that too. I am neither Indian nor Pakistani but I have lived almost 2 years in India and realized that apart from the poor population the mongering populations is gentleman enough.Indian, Pakistani or Afghanistani. Either way they were completely soaked wearing pants and long sleeve shirts while walking in the direction the baht bus were traveling. Says to me they see ten baht is better spent elsewhere that on a covered ride.
Mr Enternational
02-17-16, 08:53
I arrived in BKK last night at 11 and went upstairs and outside to get a taxi. The first guy agreed to 900 baht but I could not get through the turnstyle where he was. I went down further to one that I could get through. There was another taxi there that said he would take me to Pattaya for 900 baht. By then the first taxi guy came walking down and was about to get into it with the second guy for trying to poach me. An hour and a half later I was at my place in Pattaya and gave the guy 1000 baht. My security guy saw me coming in and asked if I wanted him to get my motorbike ready. I told him yes. When I come in from being gone awhile, he cleans it up and pumps up the tires when I arrive so I will be ready to strike out. I always shoot him a few hundred baht when I am leaving so he can buy a bottle of liquor. I came up and got my room together and took a shower. I was debating about going out and layed down in my comfortable bed. I was off to sleep.
I woke up at 4 and had a craving for some pussy so I decided to throw on some shorts and flip flops and head to a disco. I ended up going to Flexx. I saw a lot of chicks that I already knew. A lot of new chicks were asking 2000 baht. They must have been out of their rabbid ass minds. I spotted a chick who I had seen earlier outside walking with her friend. I was trying to take the friend but she insisted on going to 808. This time the other one was in Flexx alone. I asked where her friend was and she said that she went to her room. I told her well you can come to my room with me. She agreed without negotiating and we were out when I finished my drink.
When we got to the room she went and took a shower and came back and gave a damn good GFE. She was 165cm and 55kg (for anyone who cares. I don't; I just asked her so I could put it in the post) and from Khon Kaen. She said she works at a massage shop on 2nd Road. She said she had to be at work at 11am. I was about to wake her up at 10am when her alarm started going off. I turned it off and she stayed sleep. She finally woke up when some guy from New York called asking her to turn on her cam. (She had it on speakerphone.) She kept telling him no but assured him that she is in her room. She went into the bathroom to get on cam with him. It wasn't like he couldn't tell it was not her room though and he made it known. She came back in the room to me talking to chicks on whatsapp and line. She said you have been on that thing all night chatting to women. I told her that I couldn't help that they love me.
She said that she thought the guy's friend had already left Pattaya but she ran into him in 808 and he told his friend. She said that since he has a spy she will wait another 10 days before going back to 808. She insisted on fucking one more time. I told her that I was going to fuck her ass then took out some Vaseline that is on my nightstand. I opened it and acted as if I scooped some out and started running my finger down her ass crack. I was just kidding. She got on top of me and rode me until she came. Then I turned her over and put those long ass legs and pretty feet in the air. We took showers and got dressed and I took her home so she could get ready for work. When we got to her soi she started trying to hide and told me to go faster as we passed by some shop. I asked who was she hiding from? I dropped her at her room and handed her 1000 baht. She said she hoped to see me soon and gave me her phone number. I drove off to start my errands. The time was 11:52am.
RockyHardy21
02-17-16, 09:49
Indian, Pakistani or Afghanistani. Either way they were completely soaked wearing pants and long sleeve shirts while walking in the direction the baht bus were traveling. Says to me they see ten baht is better spent elsewhere that on a covered ride.You could have offered them so that you could save some wet ass. Ahahaha.
Blanquiceleste
02-17-16, 15:51
Hi,
What is the best time to visit DD for maximum availability of girls.I have not mastered the art of picking the best time slot for a DD visit. I have visited in the day time after 2 pm on all 3 of my visits. As I said before, I try and pick one good looking girl needless to say I had looked up the website and I had a mental shortlist) and then ask her to pick the second girl.
Had to leave Sapphire, saw what looked like a ladyboy in Sapphire getup. Kept looking at him as he walked by, he went behind another girl and was joking with her. The girl then hit him in the crotch. Never saw a girl hit another in the pussy. Eyes started scanning and swear there was a few more possible in the crowd.
Had to leave Sapphire, saw what looked like a ladyboy in Sapphire getup. Kept looking at him as he walked by, he went behind another girl and was joking with her. The girl then hit him in the crotch. Never saw a girl hit another in the pussy. Eyes started scanning and swear there was a few more possible in the crowd.Unless a club guarantees not to have any secret post op LBs, it is always safer to be suspicious. In Deja Vu (cowboy) I detected some LBs since many years ago. It was supposed to be hush hush as Cowboy supposedly had no LB gogo girls at the time. Cockatoo bar arrived later. Was said the Japanese customers probably took them without knowing (or maybe they did not care). Had very strong suspicion about a Tilac girl years ago too. Was considering her than suddenly changed my mind. Something wasn't quite right even though rather pretty.
Taking the very natural looking girls not too tall, is always safer. Seeing girls fully nude first with a worm's eye view (from below) is a big help too.
I note there are plenty of massage shops in Bangkok with LBs and girls sitting outside.
No need to avoid the whole place as long as LB numbers are very small, but be careful.
I have seen nude LBs from doorway of a Nana bar (back left corner). Body shape was not good for me. Pussy not shaved. Rather obviously not a girl in those cases.
Was making my rounds on soi 6, saw some cuties at this bar called Dolls (its almost the last bar before Beach road). Do my normal routine and ask for a beer, instead of the girl getting it she points inside. So I go inside and the place is set up like a small gogo. They must have just opened and there was only a handful of girls. Buy a beer and buy a girl a drink and inquire about boom boom, mamasan comes over and says its 500 barfine. Right away hearing 'barfine' in a soi 6 place my alert goes up. I then ask if they have rooms upstairs which they do, I then ask how much for the girl. She says 2000 baht. Way too pricey for soi 6 when every other bar up the road is charging 300 and 1000. Payed my bill and found a cutie for half of what they wanted.
Unless a club guarantees not to have any secret post op LBs, it is always safer to be suspicious. In Deja Vu (cowboy) I detected some LBs since many years ago. It was supposed to be hush hush as Cowboy supposedly had no LB gogo girls at the time. Cockatoo bar arrived later. Was said the Japanese customers probably took them without knowing (or maybe they did not care). Had very strong suspicion about a Tilac girl years ago too. Was considering her than suddenly changed my mind. Something wasn't quite right even though rather pretty.
Taking the very natural looking girls not too tall, is always safer. Seeing girls fully nude first with a worm's eye view (from below) is a big help too.
I note there are plenty of massage shops in Bangkok with LBs and girls sitting outside.
No need to avoid the whole place as long as LB numbers are very small, but be careful.
I have seen nude LBs from doorway of a Nana bar (back left corner). Body shape was not good for me. Pussy not shaved. Rather obviously not a girl in those cases.Safe to say that the only gogo with a mix of lbs and girls are in boys town. Sapphire had such a fantastic lineup last trip, they must be hurting if they are letting in lbs.
Banana Boi
02-18-16, 10:17
Safe to say that the only gogo with a mix of lbs and girls are in boys town. Sapphire had such a fantastic lineup last trip, they must be hurting if they are letting in lbs.Weren't you raving about the Sapphire lineup on your first few days? Sapphire has gone from top notch to crap in a week?
On your last trip there was no under 20 rule and Sapphire was the club that had the most under 20's imo. Now with the under 20 law in effect is that why the club may be hurting?
Syzy, unlike BKK clubs that mix both LB's and girls, this is generally not the case for Pattaya gogo clubs which is one major reason I prefer Pattaya clubs over BKK.
Safe to say that the only gogo with a mix of lbs and girls are in boys townLadyboys and girls in boys town? I thought that was a gay area.
Steppenwolf11
02-18-16, 11:22
Ladyboys and girls in boys town? I thought that was a gay area.No that's chinese area now. I saw a big group of chinese tourists (more then 20) come out of boyz town. As usual all were following the guy with the pennant. :-) .
Ladyboys and girls in boys town? I thought that was a gay area.There's a gogo under the hotel in 'boystown' where on one side the gogo has ladyboys, on the other side girls. Forgive me but I remember reading about it but don't recall the name of the hotel or the gogo. The hotel though was known for having stripperpoles in the rooms. Yes, interaction with ladyboys is common at the beer bars (ordering drinks etc) but in the gogo's I just don't want to sit there questioning if the girl I want to barfine is a possible post opp ladyboy. 20000 beer bars in Pattaya, Sapphire just lost 99% of my business (still might stop in but not nearly as often as in the past).
Weren't you raving about the Sapphire lineup on your first few days? Sapphire has gone from top notch to crap in a week?
On your last trip there was no under 20 rule and Sapphire was the club that had the most under 20's imo. Now with the under 20 law in effect is that why the club may be hurting?
Syzy, unlike BKK clubs that mix both LB's and girls, this is generally not the case for Pattaya gogo clubs which is one major reason I prefer Pattaya clubs over BKK.There really isn't a 20 an over rule that I can see, I barfined a 19 year old and bought a drink for an 18 year old.
As to Sapphire's lineup, I don't think I posted every time I went into the bar, so you can't gauge the lineup compared to my posts. The lineup was amazing the only day I walked in there with my 19 year old barfine, the rest of the days I thought it pretty average. You didn't see it a year ago, many of my favorites no longer work there. One went to Phuket. You sent me the photo (their facebook page) of your girl, didn't see her there once. And its in my phone so not like I'd forget what she looked like.
Banana Boi
02-18-16, 12:40
Odd cause she is there. She was at the Bike Show with a bunch of other girls this past week.
We all know gogo prices are climbing so if I'm going to barfine a girl, I want her to either have the best personality with a decent body or a fantastic body and be dambed about everything else. So I walk into a gogo expecting to pay 4000 baht at most of the walking street gogo's (less in LK metro). Can I negotiate down a 1000 baht barfine and a 3000 baht short (or long) time? ID give it a go if its at all possible without trying to upset the girl and the service to boot. That being said, I sit down and get a drink and turn down all the ugly girls who run over trying to grab a drink. I then look at the lineup and in my head figure out who's worth the 4000 and who isn't. I then rate the club based on their lineup of top tier talent. Here's a comment on some of the gogo's I visited and what I thought of their lineup vs price ratio.
The Office in LK metro. Some stunners, seems they like to put the hot ones all on stage at the same time and then the dogs later. Once you walk in the token dogs come running trying to get a ladydrink before you have a chance to look at the stunners. Ratings: 6.
Ninja in LK metro. Higher degree of stunners, mamasan came over and gave me an outrageous price for a dog tier girl. Fun club to stop in for a beer. Ratings 6.
Paradise in LK metro. Price wise a fantastic deal, some really cute girls although not as much as on offer as Ninja. Ratings a 6.
Peppermints on WS: decent amount of girls, some cuties but their prices are a tad high. Ratings a 6. 5.
Electric Blue: some cute talent, some topless and naked girls and a fantastic 45 baht beer happy hour. Fun club to visit, couldn't tell you about the price but for club fun alone its a 7. 5.
What's Up on WS. Some cute talent, way way overpriced on everything. But if I'm going to fork out a large amount of cash, the talent just didn't wow me. Ratings a 6. 5.
Sapphire on WS. Tons of girls (and a few LB's maybe), many of the girls fall into the average range. They might be hotter naked but if they are fully clothed and don't set off my dick radar, not much chance of a barfine. My two other buddies who visited last year also voted thumbs down for the overall lineup. Plenty of bodies to fill the venue but its not like last year. Ratings a 6. 5 (easily a 8. 5 last year).
Farenheit: There are some cuties here and many of them are topless on the stage. Numbers aren't as high as some of the other clubs but prices are a bit easier to handle after 11 pm. Ratings a 7.
Wildcats: lineup is hit and miss but if you get the right girl the club is a rocking. Buddy and I each bought two girls drinks and as soon as they got to our seats dropped their panties to the floor. Fingers fingers everywhere. Barfine is high but prices are reasonable. Right time of night this club can be a 9, other times its barely a 4.
Windmill: Went there twice, left after one beer each time. Lineup has a few good lookers but the rest are dogs. Gone is the cutie who did all the pussy inserts of last year, making the club a boring venue. Ratings 6.
Mr Enternational
02-18-16, 15:03
There's a gogo under the hotel in 'boystown' where on one side the gogo has ladyboys, on the other side girls. Forgive me but I remember reading about it but don't recall the name of the hotel or the gogo. The hotel though was known for having stripperpoles in the rooms. Penthouse Hotel
So I walk into a gogo expecting to pay 4000 baht at most of the walking street gogo's (less in LK metro). Can I negotiate down a 1000 baht barfine and a 3000 baht short (or long) time? ID give it a go if its at all possible without trying to upset the girl and the service to boot.Why not walk in and give it a try? That is a sure way to find out.
Stopped in Alcatraz agogo, its never been a favorite club of mine but if I'm in the area and have some free time I'll check it out. There were a few cute girls but for the most part the ugly girls are always the first to come up to you and the wait staff are a bit aggressive in their pointing to the girls for you to pick one. One little guy decided he was going to clap inch's from my face. Was waiting for him to try it again. Anyway, either I'm now seeing ladyboys in every club or #152 is the ugliest working girl ever.
Weren't you raving about the Sapphire lineup on your first few days? Sapphire has gone from top notch to crap in a week?
On your last trip there was no under 20 rule and Sapphire was the club that had the most under 20's imo. Now with the under 20 law in effect is that why the club may be hurting?
Syzy, unlike BKK clubs that mix both LB's and girls, this is generally not the case for Pattaya gogo clubs which is one major reason I prefer Pattaya clubs over BKK.Banana Boi,
You need to be very specific with such provocative comments. Which BKK clubs have a mix of girls and LBs, please exclude discos, where clearly anything is possible? Please list some examples so we know what you are talking about. Please also exclude bars/clubs where waiting staff or mamasans are LBs, as that surely does not count.
I am not aware of any Bangkok bars that have a mix of girls and LBs right now, in the dancing staff. Of course I do not enter Deja Vu any longer since detected 2 or 3 LBs years ago. Also I do not enter any Nana bars that obviously have LBs.
One or two Cowboy bars are now LB bars, but I don't go in. It's too obvious.
I am not aware of rule that a girl must be 20 for Bangkok bars. Certainly not for Crazy House and unlikely for Suzie Wong. Oom, one of my favourites is nearly 20 years old. I first saw her, without actually going with her originally, 2 and a half years ago. I am not allowed to be too explicit on this subject. Forum rules. I am aware that some massage places require a girl to be at least 20.
Mr Enternational
02-19-16, 06:33
I am not aware of rule that a girl must be 20 for Bangkok bars. Certainly not for Crazy House and unlikely for Suzie Wong. Oom, one of my favourites is nearly 20 years old. I first saw her, without actually going with her originally, 2 and a half years ago. I am not allowed to be too explicit on this subject. Forum rules. I am aware that some massage places require a girl to be at least 20.This law was enacted last month for all of Thailand. If someone under 20 is caught working in a bar then in addition to jail for the girl and the manager, the bar will be shut down for 5 years and will incure a 2 million baht fine. So maybe you have not heard from Oom in a while or she is definitely over 20.
This law was enacted last month for all of Thailand. If someone under 20 is caught working in a bar then in addition to jail for the girl and the manager, the bar will be shut down for 5 years and will incure a 2 million baht fine.Maybe that is why some girls have been attending so scarcely. Of course CH gets a tip off before any police visit. So they maybe above the law to some extent. I have seen Oom this month maybe twice, but rarely turning up.
At first she said she was 20, but later amended that to nearly 20 with birthday coming up soon. Sometimes Thais may want to use the Chinese system that they are 1 already immediately after birth (in their first year).
It's a great injustice for Thailand to discriminate on age, in my opinion. Is the girl considered an adult or not? It's as simple as that. Girls have to make a living and support their family even if not yet 20. Some Thai single mothers maybe well under 20 years of age. Daughter or son has to be supported somehow. If a girl is entitled to work at all, perhaps she should be entitled to do any type of work that older people are allowed to do, provided she is free to choose. Other bargirls have run into a big problem through not being Thai nationals and are therefore discriminated against as well.
The stigma of sex work largely comes from religious stupidity in my personal view. It's just a job. Sex slavery is a different thing altogether. Everyone agrees slavery is wrong regardless of the type of work, so the sex part is hardly relevant.
Banana Boi
02-19-16, 09:53
You need to be very specific with such provocative comments. Which BKK clubs have a mix of girls and LBs, From what I could tell from the outside, almost every single gogo club in Nana has LB's. Even the one that didn't appear to have any LB's outside I walked into and was immediately attacked by a LB. Maybe some of these LB's were actually girls with a ton of cosmetic surgery but they fit my LB criteria. I did not walk into Bangkok Bunnies since they had no one outside and I could not find RB4 which I understand are 2 of the clubs with all girls.
Cowboy seemed normal other than Cockatoo of course.
This law was enacted last month for all of Thailand. If someone under 20 is caught working in a bar then in addition to jail for the girl and the manager, the bar will be shut down for 5 years and will incure a 2 million baht fine. So maybe you have not heard from Oom in a while or she is definitely over 20.Please provide a link for this.
Christian G
02-19-16, 10:14
Please provide a link for this.http://pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/220719/5-year-bar-closure-warning-issued-at-pattaya-police-meeting-with-bar-operators/
In addition, any bar found to admit customers under the age of 20 or employ staff under the age of 20 or if any illegal drugs are found inside their respective venue, the 5-year closure order will be imposed.
Mr Enternational
02-19-16, 11:10
Please provide a link for this.My link is my girlfriend who is sitting right here and works in one. I asked her while we were having lunch and I was writing the post. Someone else made a post about it last month when it first came out and I immediately asked her about it and she confirmed it with all the details. I think at that point I made a post that guys who only search for teenagers would do better to search for them online from now on.
Banana Boi
02-19-16, 11:41
Palace gogo in the heart of WS may be the first affected by the new laws last month, not for under 20 but for assault by a waitress and a dancer against 2 drunken female tourists who could not pay their bill.
The excuses may be a moot point for the bar, however, as Walking Street pub owners were told on Jan. 13 in no uncertain terms that violence of any sort against customers by bar staff would result in their establishments being closed for five years.
This is just dumb. Does this mean any drunken farang with no intention to pay his bill can now walk in a bar, buy 10,000 baht in drinks, claim he can't pay, and the bar now must let him walk without touching or stopping him?
Palace gogo in the heart of WS may be the first affected by the new laws last month, not for under 20 but for assault by a waitress and a dancer against 2 drunken female tourists who could not pay their bill.
This is just dumb. Does this mean any drunken farang with no intention to pay his bill can now walk in a bar, buy 10,000 baht in drinks, claim he can't pay, and the bar now must let him walk without touching or stopping him?What it means is they can't decide to kick your ass when they see fit like I have seen happen several times down there.
If two drunk women can't pay there bill, that is what the police are for. Surely they can detain them without being excessive. Kicking their ass won't get your money and the government finally got tired of people / foreigners getting beat down by bar staff with impunity.
Mr Enternational
02-19-16, 12:58
Palace gogo in the heart of WS may be the first affected by the new laws last month, not for under 20 but for assault by a waitress and a dancer against 2 drunken female tourists who could not pay their bill.
This is just dumb. Does this mean any drunken farang with no intention to pay his bill can now walk in a bar, buy 10,000 baht in drinks, claim he can't pay, and the bar now must let him walk without touching or stopping him?It seems you got the story wrong. The news reported that the two women were teachers from Canada. Only one was beaten. Somehow they racked up a 5000 baht bar tab. One lady left to go to the ATM to get the money. When she was not back in X amount of time, the other lady jumped up and started walking out to go see what was taking her friend so long. That is when the one lady got jumped on because they thought she was trying to do a runner. It would have worked out better had the bar sent someone to the ATM with the first lady as they do in the ripoff clubs in Mexico.
http://news.thaivisa.com/pattaya/canadian-teachers-report-assault-at-pattaya-go-go-bar/131651/
Well that was the news version, but here it is from the horse's mouth:
"I am one of the girls that was involved in this story and this is totally inaccurate. They made it sound like it was our fault when in reality we did nothing wrong. We payed for our bill which was not 5000baht, we both had 4 drinks each, which we payed for but 2 other men separate from us left us with their bills. We told the staff there we payed our bill, that the rest was the mens and they wouldn't listen. We tried to leave as we payed our bill and didn't have money to pay for the men's bill that ditched out on their tabs, one of which they let leave and kept us. They then jumped my friend, 4 girls 1 man, and started beating her. I held off 2 when the manager grabbed my arms and they continued to kick and scratch her. Police came and as we were leaving, the same stripper who originally jumped my friend, attacked me again. We also told the police this multiple times but it seems the reporters rather make things up and make the tourists look to blame."
http://pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/221462/canadian-teachers-report-assault-at-pattaya-go-go-bar/
What it means is they can't decide to kick your ass when they see fit like I have seen happen several times down there.
If two drunk women can't pay there bill, that is what the police are for. Surely they can detain them without being excessive. Kicking their ass won't get your money and the government finally got tired of people / foreigners getting beat down by bar staff with impunity.Does a reporter take just one source before coming to a conclusion? One girl and one trip to Thailand does not make one an expert. As of today I found out just how little I really know and this is around my 70th day in Thailand total. Focus on the girls, stay out of trouble and you won't have worries. Get some more time on the ground before trying to stir things up.
Does a reporter take just one source before coming to a conclusion? One girl and one trip to Thailand does not make one an expert. As of today I found out just how little I really know and this is around my 70th day in Thailand total. Focus on the girls, stay out of trouble and you won't have worries. Get some more time on the ground before trying to stir things up.For your information I live here so get a few years in like me and then maybe you can can make more sense. I'm telling what I have seen on walking street and LK Metro in particular and I can tell you what I saw those guys didn't deserve.
Me personally I have never had any problems but I'm not much for go go's. For those that are, enjoy. Most times there are no problems.
Most times there are no problems.From what my buddy has told me (he's lived here for several years as well), you run this risk if you give bouncers any excuse. 5000 baht is a two week salary here, would you try to walk out of a club owing a 2 week salary back home? Imagine someone running up a $2000 bar bill back in the states (or elsewhere), what would the bouncers do in that case? If your not Thai, your rights are limited. I'm not saying its right or wrong, I'm just saying don't assume your rights carry over to this country. Take for example a year or so back when a tourist tried skipping out on his taxi fare and the Thai chased him down with a machete and killed him, that was a hell of a lot less than a 5000 baht bar bill.
From what my buddy has told me (he's lived here for several years as well), you run this risk if you give bouncers any excuse. 5000 baht is a two week salary here, would you try to walk out of a club owing a 2 week salary back home? Imagine someone running up a $2000 bar bill back in the states (or elsewhere), what would the bouncers do in that case? If your not Thai, your rights are limited. I'm not saying its right or wrong, I'm just saying don't assume your rights carry over to this country. Take for example a year or so back when a tourist tried skipping out on his taxi fare and the Thai chased him down with a machete and killed him, that was a hell of a lot less than a 5000 baht bar bill.I agree with what you are saying to a point. Many Farangs are putting themself at risk for small amounts of money. Mainly because they don't understand Thai culture and how saving face is paramount. There have been times when I could have argued over 10,20, 500 bt. But if you understand that 500 bt is $17.00 to us but to them it is big money and saving face, you yield pay the extra and don't go back. I would never say risk your safety over money which we consider small. Even 5000 I would consider not worth the risk.
I'm just saying it is good now that the government is taking notice now and saying beating the shit out of foreigners now in big money discos is unacceptable although we all know it is still going to happen with foreigners that are not Savvy.
Wolvenvacht
02-19-16, 19:46
http://pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/220719/5-year-bar-closure-warning-issued-at-pattaya-police-meeting-with-bar-operators/
In addition, any bar found to admit customers under the age of 20 or employ staff under the age of 20 or if any illegal drugs are found inside their respective venue, the 5-year closure order will be imposed.High on rethoric and low on info. The article does not say that there is a new law, only that a bar can be closed for 5 years if it breaks the law (as in "any law").
To me it seems that the Police General just made the "new rules" clear. As most of the bars operate anyhow at the border of the law or even outside of the law, the Police could close them all at any time.
However, if they "behave" within the limits mentioned, they can continue their business.
Don't forget that the Army is now "boss" in Thailand and the Police lost much face in that power-struggle. This "action" fits nicely within the Government's whole campaign of making Thailand nice and clean. Drugs, violence and "under-age" prostitution are of course easy targets for such a campaign.
This has all the indications of the Police trying to take back some of their traditional turf. It probably also means that some voluntary donations to the Policemen's Pension Fund are now in order.
Was killing time on Soi 6, working my way up and down depending on the talent. Decided it was time to head out, jumped on a baht bus and when I came to soi 7 decided to hop out and take a look around. I realize now that I prefer staying in this area for its prime location to all the beer bars. I don't care to hang at any of the small joints but when your coming and going from your hotel you can look at the talent available. Anyway I was already fucked out from soi 6, saw some talent but not worth having to negotiate. So I head back across beach road and start walking in the direction of my hotel with the intention of just looking but not buying when after ten minutes of walking I pass this stunning girl. She just stood out of the lineup. I kept on walking and after a few minutes decide to turn around. Amazingly she was still there. Chatted for a minute, she quoted 1000 and I wasn't about to negotiate. Grabbed a taxi and he took us the long way around past Walking Street but that gave me more time to chat her up. Really nice girl, friendly and spoke very good english and seemed very clean cut. Get her back to my hotel and when she came out of the shower and the towel dropped, she had the body of a hot gogo dancer. Just over 5'2", 100 lbs, perky be's and an angelic face. Service didn't include a BJ but the sex and then watching her give me a HJ for the last 10 minutes without complaint before I came (too many soi 6 girls) was more than enough for me.
Banana Boi
02-20-16, 06:28
Cute. I will keep my eye out for her.
Cute. I will keep my eye out for her.As will I as she'll be taking a motobike taxi directly to my hotel in 2 hours.
MusicalToM
02-20-16, 11:41
Thanks for sharing the review.
Would you mind sharing her contact details (LINE ID or Whats App) or place where I can find her. Travelling mid March, would be wonderful if I can avail her service.
Was killing time on Soi 6, working my way up and down depending on the talent. Decided it was time to head out, jumped on a baht bus and when I came to soi 7 decided to hop out and take a look around. I realize now that I prefer staying in this area for its prime location to all the beer bars. I don't care to hang at any of the small joints but when your coming and going from your hotel you can look at the talent available. Anyway I was already fucked out from soi 6, saw some talent but not worth having to negotiate. So I head back across beach road and start walking in the direction of my hotel with the intention of just looking but not buying when after ten minutes of walking I pass this stunning girl. She just stood out of the lineup. I kept on walking and after a few minutes decide to turn around. Amazingly she was still there. Chatted for a minute, she quoted 1000 and I wasn't about to negotiate. Grabbed a taxi and he took us the long way around past Walking Street but that gave me more time to chat her up. Really nice girl, friendly and spoke very good english and seemed very clean cut. Get her back to my hotel and when she came out of the shower and the towel dropped, she had the body of a hot gogo dancer. Just over 5'2", 100 lbs, perky be's and an angelic face. Service didn't include a BJ but the sex and then watching her give me a HJ for the last 10 minutes without complaint before I came (too many soi 6 girls) was more than enough for me.
MusicalToM
02-20-16, 12:04
Nice review Dear.
But to me it's very much confusing to decide how to place the clubs in a line of 1 to 10 considering your ratings. It would have been great if you could have mentioned the times you visited each of them.
Anyway I think you can help out here to put these clubs in a 1 to 10 rating. Will be helpful to have a visit with something in mind. And let's consider the time is early evening say 7 PM+.
We all know gogo prices are climbing so if I'm going to barfine a girl, I want her to either have the best personality with a decent body or a fantastic body and be dambed about everything else. So I walk into a gogo expecting to pay 4000 baht at most of the walking street gogo's (less in LK metro). Can I negotiate down a 1000 baht barfine and a 3000 baht short (or long) time? ID give it a go if its at all possible without trying to upset the girl and the service to boot. That being said, I sit down and get a drink and turn down all the ugly girls who run over trying to grab a drink. I then look at the lineup and in my head figure out who's worth the 4000 and who isn't. I then rate the club based on their lineup of top tier talent. Here's a comment on some of the gogo's I visited and what I thought of their lineup vs price ratio.
The Office in LK metro. Some stunners, seems they like to put the hot ones all on stage at the same time and then the dogs later. Once you walk in the token dogs come running trying to get a ladydrink before you have a chance to look at the stunners. Ratings: 6.
Ninja in LK metro. Higher degree of stunners, mamasan came over and gave me an outrageous price for a dog tier girl. Fun club to stop in for a beer. Ratings 6.
Paradise in LK metro. Price wise a fantastic deal, some really cute girls although not as much as on offer as Ninja. Ratings a 6.
Peppermints on WS: decent amount of girls, some cuties but their prices are a tad high. Ratings a 6. 5.
Electric Blue: some cute talent, some topless and naked girls and a fantastic 45 baht beer happy hour. Fun club to visit, couldn't tell you about the price but for club fun alone its a 7. 5.
What's Up on WS. Some cute talent, way way overpriced on everything. But if I'm going to fork out a large amount of cash, the talent just didn't wow me. Ratings a 6. 5.
Sapphire on WS. Tons of girls (and a few LB's maybe), many of the girls fall into the average range. They might be hotter naked but if they are fully clothed and don't set off my dick radar, not much chance of a barfine. My two other buddies who visited last year also voted thumbs down for the overall lineup. Plenty of bodies to fill the venue but its not like last year. Ratings a 6. 5 (easily a 8. 5 last year).
Farenheit: There are some cuties here and many of them are topless on the stage. Numbers aren't as high as some of the other clubs but prices are a bit easier to handle after 11 pm. Ratings a 7.
Wildcats: lineup is hit and miss but if you get the right girl the club is a rocking. Buddy and I each bought two girls drinks and as soon as they got to our seats dropped their panties to the floor. Fingers fingers everywhere. Barfine is high but prices are reasonable. Right time of night this club can be a 9, other times its barely a 4.
Windmill: Went there twice, left after one beer each time. Lineup has a few good lookers but the rest are dogs. Gone is the cutie who did all the pussy inserts of last year, making the club a boring venue. Ratings 6.
I agree with what you are saying to a point. Many Farangs are putting themself at risk for small amounts of money. Mainly because they don't understand Thai culture and how saving face is paramount. There have been times when I could have argued over 10,20, 500 bt. But if you understand that 500 bt is $17.00 to us but to them it is big money and saving face, you yield pay the extra and don't go back. I would never say risk your safety over money which we consider small. Even 5000 I would consider not worth the risk.
I'm just saying it is good now that the government is taking notice now and saying beating the shit out of foreigners now in big money discos is unacceptable although we all know it is still going to happen with foreigners that are not Savvy.Me and my brother had a situation just outside of Walking Street at the small bars leading to the Beer Garden. It was very late, maybe only one bar left open because we were buying for everyone still there. I went to the 5 baht room which is for all the bars in the area, the bar mamason said it was late, so no charge. I finish and come back, now my brothers turn. He goes and as he's leaving, some dude comes up to him demanding 5 baht. My brother blows him off and heads back to the bar. This dude, who is actually a security guard, strikes him in the ear from behind. My brother is a big dude, and a black belt, but he knew better than to kill the little fuk. We demanded the bar call the police (like that was going to happen). We actually remembered there was a tourist police post nearby, where the police were all sitting watching TV (imagine that). They finally came over and we got an apology and advise that it wouldn't be worth our while to press charges. All this over 5 baht!
I haven't been there for ages. What's it like nowadays when one has a BJ in the bar? What's there to pay, just for the BJ or still for the BF too? How much is all? Thanks!
Christian G
02-20-16, 16:52
I haven't been there for ages. What's it like nowadays when one has a BJ in the bar? What's there to pay, just for the BJ or still for the BF too? How much is all? Thanks!I think is a classic 500+300 b.
Me and my brother had a situation just outside of Walking Street at the small bars leading to the Beer Garden. It was very late, maybe only one bar left open because we were buying for everyone still there. I went to the 5 baht room which is for all the bars in the area, the bar mamason said it was late, so no charge. I finish and come back, now my brothers turn. He goes and as he's leaving, some dude comes up to him demanding 5 baht. My brother blows him off and heads back to the bar. This dude, who is actually a security guard, strikes him in the ear from behind. My brother is a big dude, and a black belt, but he knew better than to kill the little fuk. We demanded the bar call the police (like that was going to happen). We actually remembered there was a tourist police post nearby, where the police were all sitting watching TV (imagine that). They finally came over and we got an apology and advise that it wouldn't be worth our while to press charges. All this over 5 baht!I don't know what you expect to hear here. You said it yourself, all that for five baht. STUPID.
MusicalToM
02-20-16, 20:27
It happens every now & then in each country. Somebody tells something then somebody else comes and he tells something else. Their is no point of arguing with somebody even for 50 bahts if it's a charge genuinely. I guess you learned your lesson & we all can show our aggression somewhere else (You know what I mean).
Happy mongering.
Me and my brother had a situation just outside of Walking Street at the small bars leading to the Beer Garden. It was very late, maybe only one bar left open because we were buying for everyone still there. I went to the 5 baht room which is for all the bars in the area, the bar mamason said it was late, so no charge. I finish and come back, now my brothers turn. He goes and as he's leaving, some dude comes up to him demanding 5 baht. My brother blows him off and heads back to the bar. This dude, who is actually a security guard, strikes him in the ear from behind. My brother is a big dude, and a black belt, but he knew better than to kill the little fuk. We demanded the bar call the police (like that was going to happen). We actually remembered there was a tourist police post nearby, where the police were all sitting watching TV (imagine that). They finally came over and we got an apology and advise that it wouldn't be worth our while to press charges. All this over 5 baht!
I arrived late evening Friday night. After having dinner, stopped in at the Telephone bar 2 on Soi Lengkee. All the ladies were wearing panties and no tops dropped when a lady drink was bought. Was told the Bangkok police were in town and there was one inside Telephone Bar.
Went to Soi 6 afterwards, and the mood just wasn't the same: Less ladies present, no ST rooms were open. One of the Soi 6 bar managers stated the police had cleared Beach road of SW.
The previous night, they were in Walking street conducting checks and detained 30 foreigners for not having their passports. Photo copies were Not accepted.
Everything will close at 11:59p Sunday. In the past it's always been a 24Hr closure, however, rumor has it, the venues will not be allowed to reopen until Tuesday night. Something about this being the oldest Buddha holiday.
http://pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/221631/30-foreigners-detained-during-id-checks-in-pattaya-nightclubs/
Mr Enternational
02-21-16, 00:34
Anyway I think you can help out here to put these clubs in a 1 to 10 rating. Will be helpful to have a visit with something in mind. And let's consider the time is early evening say 7 PM+.MF you go to them yourself and put them in a 1 to 10 rating. Nobody got time to do things to your specifications when they are out trying to enjoy their vacation.
Mr Enternational
02-21-16, 00:42
Went to Soi 6 afterwards, and the mood just wasn't the same: Less ladies present, no ST rooms were open. One of the Soi 6 bar managers stated the police had cleared Beach road of SW.What time were you in Soi 6 Friday night? Me and my girlfriend rode through about 11 pm after I had some work done on my bike. To me it seemed to be tons of girls there. Leaving 6 I noticed between Pattaya Klang on down that all the SWs were on the opposite side of the road from the beach. And there were some nice ones too. I wanted to push my girl off and pick up one.
MF you go to them yourself and put them in a 1 to 10 rating. Nobody got time to do things to your specifications when they are out trying to enjoy their vacation.I've just found a new career. I'll get people like him to pay me to visit gogos and beer bars so I can give him a 1-10 rating. I'll probably branch out and barfine several for him, but that's going to cost extra.
I don't know if it's still because of high season or not, but last night I was checking out the talent on beach road and the standard price for short time has seemed to jump to 1000 baht. Even the MILF's (30+) were asking 800 baht.
Mr Enternational
02-21-16, 03:36
I don't know if it's still because of high season or not, but last night I was checking out the talent on beach road and the standard price for short time has seemed to jump to 1000 baht. Even the MILF's (30+) were asking 800 baht.Asking price does not mean standard price. There is no standard price. Maybe they took a look at you and figured you were good for a certain amount and that is what they asked for. Laugh and offer them 500. There is a saying that goes if you are not embarassed by your offer, then you are offering too much. The same can be said on the other end for the other party.
Spirits Hunt
02-21-16, 06:35
Ok. I been reading this forum for a bit now and lots of information to take in.
First time I going to travel to thailand and off into pattaya. Theres one thing I'm not sure enough. When you guys mention soi 6 or 8 etc.
On the map I can see one main line alone call beach road and then I can see walking street stated. Are all these IN the walking street? Or on the map I actually looking at pattaya road 1 2 3 and so on?
And also I looking to stay a LK empress. Is that a good place to stay? As in I can see lots of free lancer outside on beach road?
Thank you.
Christian G
02-21-16, 09:02
I don't know if it's still because of high season or not, but last night I was checking out the talent on beach road and the standard price for short time has seemed to jump to 1000 baht. Even the MILF's (30+) were asking 800 baht.I can give them 1000 baht only if they offer A+ service.
Christian G
02-21-16, 09:04
First time I going to travel to thailand and off into pattaya. Theres one thing I'm not sure enough. When you guys mention soi 6 or 8 etc.
On the map I can see one main line alone call beach road and then I can see walking street stated. Are all these IN the walking street? Or on the map I actually looking at pattaya road 1 2 3 and so on?
No, isn't in WS. These are the soi that connect the beach road to the second road from north to south.
Crocodilexp
02-21-16, 09:09
Asking price does not mean standard price. There is no standard price. Maybe they took a look at you and figured you were good for a certain amount and that is what they asked for. Laugh and offer them 500. There is a saying that goes if you are not embarassed by your offer, then you are offering too much. The same can be said on the other end for the other party.This is so true in negotiations.
To be fair, 500 baht was the going rate on Beach Road for over 15 years now, while everything else, including sex in other venues, has gone up in price significantly. I believe current going rate at Beach Road is 700 baht, and 90% of women should be OK with this, although many try to propose more.
One issue is also the changing client demographics: for instance, Indians and Middle Eastern people love to negotiate, so with them the girl must quote 1000 or even higher to get her 700. Most Westerners are used to paying the first quoted price (and might even get turned off by a high quote and leave).
Wolvenvacht
02-21-16, 10:02
Anyway I think you can help out here to put these clubs in a 1 to 10 rating. Will be helpful to have a visit with something in mind. And let's consider the time is early evening say 7 PM+.Your wish is our command!
I ran these clubs through a self written computer program ("Club ranker") and this is the sorted list the program produced:
Paradise.
Electric Blue.
Ninja.
Peppermints.
The Office.
Wildcats.
What's Up.
Windmill.
Sapphire.
Farenheit.
The program is open source, so if you want to have it, just say so.
Your wish is our command!
I ran these clubs through a self written computer program ("Club ranker") and this is the sorted list the program produced:
Paradise.
Electric Blue.
Ninja.
Peppermints.
The Office.
Wildcats.
What's Up.
Windmill.
Sapphire.
Farenheit.
The program is open source, so if you want to have it, just say so.No kidding! I am super impressed! Thanks!
Member #4591
02-21-16, 13:04
Thanks for sharing the review.
Would you mind sharing her contact details (LINE ID or Whats App) or place where I can find her. Travelling mid March, would be wonderful if I can avail her service.Admin seems to be on holidays so maybe I will chime in on his behalf. It's clear you don't understand the forums private messaging system. Exchange of contact details in not permitted in forum posts. If you purchase a forum membership or qualify for senior member status, you can use the forum's private messaging system to request contact details from other members. A forum membership is around 20-25 bucks. If you can't afford it, perhaps you could ask another member to purchase it for you on your bahlf. How's that guys?
What time were you in Soi 6 Friday night? Me and my girlfriend rode through about 11 pmI was there from about 930p til closing. Some bars had enough ladies others did not. The Red Point ladies (and others as well,) were doing ST near / at the hotel at Soi 6 and Beach Rd. I didn't hit Beach Rd.
Ok. I been reading this forum for a bit now and lots of information to take in.
First time I going to travel to thailand and off into pattaya. Theres one thing I'm not sure enough. When you guys mention soi 6 or 8 etc.
On the map I can see one main line alone call beach road and then I can see walking street stated. Are all these IN the walking street? Or on the map I actually looking at pattaya road 1 2 3 and so on?
And also I looking to stay a LK empress. Is that a good place to stay? As in I can see lots of free lancer outside on beach road?
Thank you.Numbered sois run between beach road and 2nd road. The numbers start at the dolphin roundabout and get higher to walking street and go as high as 18 or 19 IIRC on WS itself. 6 is about 2/3 of the way between Klang (central road) and the roundabout (WHICH IS PATTAYA NORTH ROAD) If you get to BigC you went too far (read the street signs).
LK is probably on soi diana (14) between 2nd road and soi buakhao. Never stayed there so have no idea. I speak thai so I go native (cheap sleeps).
This is so true in negotiations.
To be fair, 500 baht was the going rate on Beach Road for over 15 years now, while everything else, including sex in other venues, has gone up in price significantly. I believe current going rate at Beach Road is 700 baht, and 90% of women should be OK with this, although many try to propose more.
One issue is also the changing client demographics: for instance, Indians and Middle Eastern people love to negotiate, so with them the girl must quote 1000 or even higher to get her 700. Most Westerners are used to paying the first quoted price (and might even get turned off by a high quote and leave).They still take 500 if they feel like it. Make the offer and go from there.
Ok. I been reading this forum for a bit now and lots of information to take in.
First time I going to travel to thailand and off into pattaya. Theres one thing I'm not sure enough. When you guys mention soi 6 or 8 etc.
On the map I can see one main line alone call beach road and then I can see walking street stated. Are all these IN the walking street? Or on the map I actually looking at pattaya road 1 2 3 and so on?
And also I looking to stay a LK empress. Is that a good place to stay? As in I can see lots of free lancer outside on beach road?
Thank you.Spirits Hunt: LK operates several different hotels in Pattaya. LK Empress is at Beach Road and Soi 12. This is an excellent location and the hotel gets positive reviews here. If you have any hotel questions the Pattaya Hotel thread is the place to review and ask questions.
P.S. I sent you a private message about Pattaya and KL.
The last day in Pattaya is when you find the best fuck of the trip? Why couldn't it have happened two weeks earlier? I even saw her on my second to last night and didn't bite the bullet and approach her, she was working at a tiny hole in the wall joint near LK Metro. Not a top ten looker, she's approaching 30 and the outfits she wore didn't show the stomach, so your worried about stretch marks and saggy tits. Had my tour guide get her information for me and he informed me she had just arrived in town one month ago. I might have been one of the first bar fines this girl has had in some time (he said its possible she worked in Chiang Mai and that I was the first foreign guy to barfine her). And even after buying her a few ladydrinks and promissing to come back and grab her before the midnight bar closures, I was continuously tempted to grab other younger girls that kept on advertising with their bodies. Anyway, at the end decided she had the right type of personality and I'd just have to risk what type of body was hiding under that dress. Turns out to be the best risk of the trip so far.
So I barfine her, we walk the walk to the hotel, dodging traffic and you can see the lights starting to go out in the bars and the doors coming down. The masses of people all pouring out into the streets. Reach the hotel and I jump in the shower, hand her one of my t-shirts to change into as she goes to get cleaned up. I then put on a movie, the fifth element, which I brought on a jump drive from back home. It was like 'date night', she comes out in just a tshirt, we climb under the covers and she's laughing and enjoying the funny scenes from the movie. After the movie ends, I turn off the tv and remove the tshirt and playtime begins. Body was flawless, perfect large be's, nice ass and not a stretch mark in sight. Start off slowly at first, like to have things move at a slow pace if the girls staying long time. Ended up banging her at 2 am, 5 am and 8 am. The last two times ID just pull off the covers, roll her over and get into the action. Had to get packing for the taxi ride to Bangkok, she slowly started getting up and dressed and I gave her a well earned 1500 baht long time payment plus some taxi money.
Arrived Bangkok after a long bumpy ride, man I hate those tiny taxi's and their worn out shocks. Mr Taxi charges 1100 for a car or 1800 for a van, might spring for a van and just put the flat and sleep on the ride up. Checked into my hotel and got a nice suprise, a free suite upgrade. Room is huge. Going to put it to use after a short, much needed break from the night before.
Thanks friend for your awesome reply. I will go back in search of the reports posted year before. I have a doubt that what is the usual BF for ST in soi6 bars? Is it include the rent for the room upstairs?The BF includes the price of the room. If the BF is 300 TB and the girl's fee is 1000 TB, then ignoring drinks, your total cost for your mongering activity will be 1300 TB.
You are welcome. Be sure to report back!
The last day in Pattaya is when you find the best fuck of the trip? Why couldn't it have happened two weeks earlier? I even saw her on my second to last night and didn't bite the bullet and approach her, she was working at a tiny hole in the wall joint near LK Metro. Not a top ten looker, she's approaching 30 and the outfits she wore didn't show the stomach, so your worried about stretch marks and saggy tits. Had my tour guide get her information for me and he informed me she had just arrived in town one month ago. I might have been one of the first bar fines this girl has had in some time (he said its possible she worked in Chiang Mai and that I was the first foreign guy to barfine her). And even after buying her a few ladydrinks and promissing to come back and grab her before the midnight bar closures, I was continuously tempted to grab other younger girls that kept on advertising with their bodies. Anyway, at the end decided she had the right type of personality and I'd just have to risk what type of body was hiding under that dress. Turns out to be the best risk of the trip so far.
That must be one of the unwritten laws. You always make the best find of a trip right at the end. Happens countless times.
Worse still, sometimes by the time you return, she is long gone. My favorite ever girl in a bar, I could have taken her on her last ever visit to that bar. Never ever saw her again.
So if you meet a fabulous girl, don't wait to collect contact details. You may be able to avoid losing her completely for next time.
From what I could tell from the outside, almost every single gogo club in Nana has LB's. Even the one that didn't appear to have any LB's outside I walked into and was immediately attacked by a LB. Maybe some of these LB's were actually girls with a ton of cosmetic surgery but they fit my LB criteria. I did not walk into Bangkok Bunnies since they had no one outside and I could not find RB4 which I understand are 2 of the clubs with all girls.
Cowboy seemed normal other than Cockatoo of course.Don't know why having someone outside is relevant. I did go into Bangkok Bunnies. A hell of a lot of bare silicone tits, few real tits bared, but no LBs. Mandarin has no ladyboys, none in Candyland 2 or whatever its now called, none in Mercury, None in Rainbow bars last I looked, none in Spankys, Angel Witch, Billboard last time I looked (a fair time back). I don't really remember the names of the LB bars except for the famous Cascade (now defunct? Maybe).
So I think you just made a wrong assessment by looking into the LB type bars. I would be surprised if they had too many real girls mixed in there.
To me there are two types of gogo bars, normally. Real girls bars and LB bars. Mixtures bars are not that common. I really only ever detected one on the two occasions that I can remember, being Deja Vu a few years ago, and one other a long while back. Recent tour of Pat Pong saw girl bars and LB bars, but did not notice mixture type bars. Would real girls want to work as dancers in a LB dominated bar? I don't know.
I have occasionally seen bars where hostesses (not dancers) were a mixture of girls and LBs. Recall finding a LB in Hollywood, many years ago. So that indicates that anything is possible. LBs in a normally girlie bar need to have the expectation to go undetected, otherwise they could really kill the business very quickly. Some of the Farang patrons or even most just do not like it. If the LBs just work as waitresses, that is more acceptable, however I don't like to see any ladyboy workers try to play up to me or even nearby me. I know where to find nice LBs, should I be ever wanting that. LOL No actually I am very much a pussy man. Lack of a pussy is a very serious handicap.
....No actually I am very much a pussy man. Lack of a pussy is a very serious handicap....
There are so many Pussies and yet they are Transsexual / LB without cock. And so well done, that you fuck them 10 times and still you can't be 100% sure she is born as a lady or not!
When they start with hormone at the age of 14/15 years and have the money for perfect operation. You will only be sure, if you are a doctor on this matter.
Mr Enternational
02-23-16, 13:13
There are so many Pussies and yet they are Transsexual / LB without cock. And so well done, that you fuck them 10 times and still you can't be 100% sure she is born as a lady or not!
When they start with hormone at the age of 14/15 years and have the money for perfect operation. You will only be sure, if you are a doctor on this matter.Seriously dude? Folding a dick outside in has the same chances of replicating a pussy as folding an elbow outside in has of replicating a mouth. A pussy looks like a pussy inside and out. A pussy smells like a pussy and feels like a pussy. A pussy gets wet like a pussy. Have you ever had any pussy before? No amount of hormones or surgery can replicate that.
MusicalToM
02-23-16, 15:14
Has anybody been to "Moulin Rouge" at walking street? One of my friend suggested to have a check on this. But I'm doubtful about being jacked considering it's a Russian & European club.
I spent some time to research about it online, but I believe somebody who has been to here can provide some real light on this.
Well said Mr Enternational. Fekking spot on and funny. Pedro.
....A pussy looks like a pussy inside and out. A pussy smells like a pussy and feels like a pussy. A pussy gets wet like a pussy. Have you ever had any pussy before? No amount of hormones or surgery can replicate that.
Yes, you are the specialist. Real DOC pussy. This pussies get wet, or they put something inside like KY before. Some smell little strange, but many are absolutely perfect. Nice clit everything there and the skin feels like pussy. Not like 20 year ago the first transsexual.
By the way. I do nothing else than play with pussy and enjoy my live.
That must be one of the unwritten laws. You always make the best find of a trip right at the end. Happens countless times.
Worse still, sometimes by the time you return, she is long gone. My favorite ever girl in a bar, I could have taken her on her last ever visit to that bar. Never ever saw her again.
So if you meet a fabulous girl, don't wait to collect contact details. You may be able to avoid losing her completely for next time.Funny thing is the next day, my buddies and I all went to Bangkok via taxi and when we arrived I started to think about this girl. I then messaged her and tried to have her come up and visit me in Bangkok. Turned out to be a huge headache of messages back and forth, the bar wouldn't let her leave without the barfine. She wanted me to send her money for that and for the bus ticket. All in it would have been close to 1500 baht just to get her up here for a few days, I ended up passing on the issue although the messages and phone calls from her kept coming in. Many many 'you don't love me' varieties.
On another subject, was at Spankies last night and all the girls are on stage topless and I'm sitting by the door. So I got up, started walking toward the bathroom along the side with no bar stools and put my hand up and went along and hit every breast on the way down. By the time I was halfway down the row the girls were screaming and trying to cover up. Hilarious. Will do it again tonight.
Has anybody been to "Moulin Rouge" at walking street? One of my friend suggested to have a check on this. But I'm doubtful about being jacked considering it's a Russian & European club.
I spent some time to research about it online, but I believe somebody who has been to here can provide some real light on this.Don't go there! It sucks! The women aren't all that attractive, and they put the pressure on for tips and drinks even when you tell them repeatedly "no". It was the worst of the Russian clubs I attended in Thailand. The best was Crazy Russian Girls. But unfortunately, that place got shut down for hiring illegals!
I Am What I Am
02-24-16, 09:46
Hi all,
I will be stay in hotel on Soi 6, I heard it hard to get girls from other places that don't work on this soi to come back to the hotel, is this correct?
LittleBigMan
02-25-16, 05:55
Don't go there! It sucks! The women aren't all that attractive, and they put the pressure on for tips and drinks even when you tell them repeatedly "no". It was the worst of the Russian clubs I attended in Thailand. The best was Crazy Russian Girls. But unfortunately, that place got shut down for hiring illegals!If you are referring to the club on W. S. , I do not believe that was the name " Crazy Russian house " it just happens to be next door to Crazy House Go Go, and their large banners comes very close to the place. The place is actually call XO CLUB. Since the raid the so call Russian girls are no longer outside handling out flyers and waving in customers. At one time not too much in the past they even did a routine outside like the guys doing magic? Last night I couldn't make out what it is now? But if you walk back down towards the entrance, right after 808 club, there is a Italian restaurant and top level is a place call Woodball? Nested between the restaurant and Woodball, is a new Russian place called "Virgins" the same girls that use to be outside XO, have moved to this place. Same review basically stay away unless you want to play big?
Not a place to visit. They are extremely over priced, pushy about drinks and a lapdance costs 1000 baht. Better try some Thais in Pattaya, better service and value for money.
I remember there were 2 clubs Galaxy and Moulin Rouge, both can be avoided. If you want to try your luck with some Eastern Europeans you could try Mixx Club which is a disco at the end of WS.
Has anybody been to "Moulin Rouge" at walking street? One of my friend suggested to have a check on this. But I'm doubtful about being jacked considering it's a Russian & European club.
I spent some time to research about it online, but I believe somebody who has been to here can provide some real light on this.
If you are referring to the club on W. S. , I do not believe that was the name " Crazy Russian house " it just happens to be next door to Crazy House Go Go, and their large banners comes very close to the place. The place is actually call XO CLUB. Since the raid the so call Russian girls are no longer outside handling out flyers and waving in customers.Who said anything about "Crazy Russian House"? I said "Crazy Russian Girls" (which I personally attended several times), and here is the news story of the raid and closure (club's sign in full view): http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/crime/810144/russian-kazakhstani-go-go-dancers-arrested-in-pattaya. The other one I did like was Galaxy because the girls were nicer and prettier than what was in Moulin Rouge. Yes, those places can be expensive, but you need to be in control and spend only what you want to spend.
Pipe Layer99
02-25-16, 12:25
Funny thing is the next day, my buddies and I all went to Bangkok via taxi and when we arrived I started to think about this girl. I then messaged her and tried to have her come up and visit me in Bangkok. Turned out to be a huge headache of messages back and forth, the bar wouldn't let her leave without the barfine. She wanted me to send her money for that and for the bus ticket. All in it would have been close to 1500 baht just to get her up here for a few days, I ended up passing on the issue although the messages and phone calls from her kept coming in. Many many 'you don't love me' varieties.She must be crazy. You already gave her 1500 the night before, so she had money. No reason to send a damn thing. She could pay the barfine and take the bus and you could simply give it back to her on arrival! You should have told her that SHE doesn't love you if she does not come. LOL.
Christian G
02-25-16, 13:04
Hi all,
I will be stay in hotel on Soi 6, I heard it hard to get girls from other places that don't work on this soi to come back to the hotel, is this correct?I think you don't need to worry about it. Girls will not refuse your money because you have hotel on soi 6.
Mr Enternational
02-25-16, 19:55
Took a trip through Bamboo last night. Spent some time at a table with a 42 year old chick. Her friend was all up on my wingman. He excused himself to the bathroom and came back with a chick that he had called to meet him there. Went down Walking Street to Lucifer and saw the same two girls there. I went ahead and got the girl who I was talking to Line ID. She came over today.
Come to find out she was a virgin until she was 28. She was working in a store in Bangkok and a Dutch guy who had been living there for 20 years introduced her to another Dutch guy who was on vacation. He also did the translating for them. His vacation was 3 weeks in which he spent with her spending all kind of money. She said he bought her all kind of gold and everything. One day she got drunk and gave her virginity to him. Before the guy left he went and got her a passport and did all kind of paperwork for her to go to Holland with him and they got married.
She lived in Holland for 6 years and they moved to Thailand. She said he was a really good guy. He took care of her family and all. He (55 years old) left her twice. First time for a bar girl and more recently for a gogo girl. She said that she has never been with a Thai man and recently came to Pattaya because her friend wanted her to room sit while she is off in Bang Saray with her fiance. (The only thing she knew about Pattaya is that her friend's room is on Soi Buakhao near the hospital. So I met her at the hospital.) She is looking for a foreign boyfriend and will take on temporary ones in the meantime. No idea how many men she has been with since she broke up with her husband, but I am sure it has not been many, if any. She kept telling me how tight her pussy was. This chick has no kids so she has the tits of a teenager. Silky smooth skin, which is what drew me to her.
I kept joking with her bringing out the Vaseline saying how I was going to fuck her ass. She said she will die with her ass being virgin. She did not protest to me fingering her ass and pussy at the same time though. But they were both definitely Tiiigggght. Finally got to the fucking, followed by lying in the bed talking, followed by more fucking. I gave her 1000 baht and dropped her back off at her friend's room where she is staying.
Mr Enternational
02-26-16, 07:37
The hookers have spoken and I have listened. Today I am implementing a 20% raise for my longtimers. 1200 baht will be my new going rate for LT.
The hookers have spoken and I have listened. Today I am implementing a 20% raise for my longtimers. 1200 baht will be my new going rate for LT.And what is your current going rate for ST and will it be effected by your new LT rate?
MusicalToM
02-26-16, 20:02
At last the time has come for me to enjoy LOS for the first time in 2 weeks. Definitely first but wouldn't be last for sure.
Since it's my first time, I was wondering if someone could guide me with the ongoing rates for various services. I'll ask them in points so that it'll be easy to answer.
1- MP rates I already know. But still if there is anything I need to remember please post it.
2- Freelancers. What's the Min, Max & Average price? Even if I get a stunner up to what price should I continue? Any extra charge for A+ ?
3- GoGos, Bars, Nightclubs. What's the Min, Max & Average price? For a real stunner up to what price should I continue? Any extra charge for A+ ? BF & LD charges are fixed and can't be negotiable I guess.
4- I'm not aware of any other source of getting laid. If there is any other medium exists, please do guide me.
If there is anything else I need to keep in mind, please feel free to shoot. Hoping for the best time. .
Cheers
Mr Enternational
02-27-16, 05:51
And what is your current going rate for ST and will it be effected by your new LT rate?In general I do not do short time. But I give Beach Road girls 500. I also have a usual massage girl that comes by to give me a massage and I give her 1000 all in. She massages for 1 hour then stays 2 hours more for the rest.
Mr Enternational
02-27-16, 06:30
At 2:45 pm yesterday I arrived at the spot where me and my buddies hang to watch and pick up chicks. Before I could even sit down I had met a chick and gotten her information. My buddies finally showed up at 3 pm. Things were kind of slow but picked up around 5 pm. Another friend who is in town has been meeting chicks left and right on this WeChat app so I had been trying it out for the last couple of days but had not been able to land anything. Finally I got one, even though it was a pay one (my buddy had been getting free ones). Chick said she would come over for 1000 baht. I asked how long she would stay. She said she would stay until I wanted her to leave. Cool with me. (I know I said I would pay 1200 baht from now on, but hey, the girl only asked for 1000.)
We stayed at our spot until 7 pm. During those few hours I had established 6 live contacts. As I stated before you only need 2 words of Thai to find out if a passing chick is interested for whatever reason. Pai nai? (Where are you going?) If they stop dead in their tracks and answer then it is game on. If they keep walking while answering or do not answer at all then leave it alone. Funny thing is that I witnessed some German guys at another table employing the exact same tactic. When I find out they are interested I take up about 30 seconds of their time exchanging Line IDs or phone numbers and letting them go on their way. Another buddy of mine keeps them and holds 15-minute conversations.
I got home and let the WeChat contact know I was ready for her to come. She said she would take a motorbike taxi right over. She came in and I made her a Jack and Coke, Gentleman Jack and Coke for me. After the first drink I started pulling her shirt off. I told her that the first thing she will do from now on when she walks through my door is to take her shirt off. Another round of drinks. She asked me why I was making the drinks. She said that she is the lady and that is her job. I told her because I wanted it done right.
By the way this girl is only 19. I had no idea. The way I found out is we started talking about discos and she said she was not yet old enough to go, but when her 20th birthday comes in June she will be in every single one of them. She said she tried paying the security at 808 upwards of 1000 baht and he still would not let her in. She said she came to Pattaya from Chiang Mai when she was 15 and was working and sleeping in massage shops and did not know a word of English. She would practice English with the customers. She is pretty damn good at it now.
I was sitting in my desk chair and she was sitting on the floor in front of me. She unbuttoned my shorts and pulled my dick out and started sucking it while I nursed my drink. I am not really a head guy but they way she was doing it I told her that I could get used to it. After the third drink the fucking began. I was thinking this is just what the doctor ordered and I will definitely keep this girl on as a regular. I had been looking for a chick like this for a long damn time.
When the fucking was over she went to the bathroom to clean herself then came out in a towel and went to the balcony to smoke. She came back in saying that she had to go run off somewhere but would be right back. She didn't ask for the money or anything. I quizzed her on where she was going and after a bit of teeth pulling come to find out she is a meth dealer. Oh lawd. Help me Jesus. I gave her the third degree of why she should not be doing that. She broke down crying saying that her son is in the hospital. I said yeah but you can't help anybody from jail after the police catch up with you. She kept saying she would be right back. I told her not to bring any of that stuff into this room. I went ahead and gave her 1000 baht and grabbed my helmet and walked her out. She asked where I was going because she would be right back. I told her I was going out because I didn't need those kind of problems.
Mr Enternational
02-27-16, 07:01
I cruised down Soi Buakhao looking for Serbian Bar where a girl I met online last year works. I could not find the place and the girl was not answering on Line. I ran into another chick that I know and chatted a bit. I was in contact with one of the girls I had met earlier at my spot and she was at Pitbull Bar drinking so I stopped by there. Actually I had originally told the girl that I would go out drinking with her before the meth dealer showed up in the picture so I acted like I was already in the bed sleep when she told me to meet up. I sat with her for a while and watched her shoot pool then I finally left and told her I would see her for breakfast the next morning.
Continuing down Soi Buakhao I ran into Tell All coming from a kebab shop and told him the story of the meth dealer. I continued down the soi looking for that damn bar. The gogo where my girlfriend works is closed for the next month for remodeling. She got tired of sitting in the house bored and took on another job at a beer bar on Pattaya Klang in the meantime. I stopped by there for the first time and she was happy to see me (short story that I will write in the General thread later.) There was a guy with a funny haircut and I was dying to know what country he was from but my girl would not go ask him. My girl asked if she could see me the next day and I said sure why not. I told her that I was going to get something to eat and left. I went down Beach Road and around Pattaya Tai to Second Road. I stopped and ate at my second favorite kebab shop.
When I got home the chick from Pitbull bar was still writing me. I told the security guy at my place that I was going to be in for the night. Pretty early for a Friday night. The chick said that she was home now and about to get in the bed. I convinced her to come over and stay with me. She said that she would take a shower first then I could come get her. She lives about 3 minutes from me. She made me promise that I would let her sleep. Of course I will. I went back outside and hopped on my bike and told the security guy that there are too many women in Pattaya and I can't get any rest. About 10 minutes later I showed back up with the chick and he was shaking his damn head.
We went upstairs and she tried to get in the bed with her sweatsuit on. There will be none of that babe. I took her sweatshirt off for her then she got up and took her pants and bra off and laid back down. I started rubbing all over her body and it was game on. We were supposed to get breakfast together this morning but she said her ladyboy roommate wanted her to come back to the room. I dropped her off and handed her 1000 baht. She said why you give me money? Oh mothafucka! This chick is not a hooker. Now I look like a jacka$$. See that is why I follow a strict policy of only giving money to chicks who are known hookers, because there are many freebie chicks around this place as well unbeknownst to many guys. I quickly came up with a lie and said that is so you and your friend can eat good today. She gave me a kiss and said she would see me later on today.
.Very interesting story Mr. E. I have a hunch he will see this girl again despite knowing she is bad news. Guess we'll find out in Part 2.
I'll continue the series of reviews that I started in the BKK thread with a few reviews from Pattaya.
Girl number 5.
As I was walking along the beach road and checking the coconut girls, I saw 2 ladies that didn't looked like WG crossing the street. I smiled at them and they smiled back. One of them caught my eye as she was having an interesting Chinese like face. I approached and tried to interact with them. The one I like was rather shy but the other one kept pushing her. I managed to get her phone number and starting chatting with her on what is up.
From the first moment I felt that something was wrong, it just didn't seemed the usual beach WG. She spoke very good English which was in total contradiction with her shyness. I should have seen it coming but I just pushed forward as I really liked her 'out of the usual' face. I offered her 2000 baht for LT, she agreed without too much fuss and we set up a meeting. I took her to my rented apartment building. From the very first moment she told me that she needs to drink something before proceeding to the deed. As I was in for the night and wanted anyway to try to solve the mystery of her shyness, I accepted but told her that we'll have a few drinks on the apartment terrace. She started drinking heavily, after less than one hour and more than 4 bears she was still shy, still trying to drink some more, trying to get in a dizzier state. As the plot was thickening, I asked her, what was it all about. She started hugging me and kissing me, not really wanting to share with me what was on her mind.
In the end we got in bed where the drama started. She was not so keen to take her skirt and panties off. As I have seen her ID and knowing very well to spot a shemale, I was sure that she was actually a woman. The after birth saggy tits, the see section and the pictures of her 2 kids made me understand even more that she is not a shemale. So I kept asking her (and myself) what could it be that makes her so uncomfortable to undress. She told me from the start that she would rather suck than fuck which she did quite good. In the end I managed to take off her panties and with a lot of effort I managed to get to the problem. At the second birth, which happened in the natural way, the doctors had to cut her pussy in order to take the big baby out, which ended up in a mutilated pussy.
Here I was, with a woman that I really liked at the first moment, that was quite friendly and with good GFE but with a problem that made me feel bad for her. Of course I couldn't trow her out, so I just proceeded to the deed. We had sex which was surprisingly good and, after a good BJ with DT and rimming I finished on her face. As we agreed from the first moment, she allowed me to take a video the whole thing.
After I finished I sent her on her way and just gave her the 2000 baht that were supposed to be for the LT.
Looks: 8.5 dressed, 6.5 naked (but the face was her strong point).
Sex: 7 (extra points for COF, rimming and video).
GFE: 8.5 (quite rare in LOS).
Lady number 6.
In this day of my journey, I decided to go to soi 6 as I was extremely disappointed with the decrease in quality in both Walking street (both Beer bars and Go go s) and Beach Road.
So I just went to the kiss bar where I found out that the world known Apple was back to her home village as she had some big big alcohol problems (tell me something new) and some relatives basically took her by force back home or to a rehab or something. I checked her FB profile which wasn't updated since almost 2 years. I looked around at the girls in the bars and there was only one that I liked. She didn't agree on having sex on camera or CIM or COF so I decided to skip.
I had a few drinks along the street in some places that I knew. I lot of (ugly) new faces, a few old faces, nothing special. At some point I found a bar about the middle of the street which had a little bit of atmosphere and a few girls. As the whole street has a lot of 40+ and 30+, any 20+ would qualify as young.
I finally found my lady for the night. She was 20, tight body, no kids, dark skinned, big smile, no English (farm fresh, I like them). She was so hot (or at least my alcohol poisoned brain was thinking that) that I agreed on having sex with her even if she is didn't agree with taking video. She did agree to some photos in the end but without face. I paid the 400 baht room fine (I am not sure if that is the exact amount) and went up with her after agreeing on a 1000 baht price.
We went into the shower, than she blew me, I fucked her very tight pussy and finished on her face.
Looks: 9 (still don't know if it's alcohol influenced or not).
GFE: 7 good smile but no English.
Sex: 8.5 really good but no rimming, no video, no anal.
Lady number 7.
Next night I had that kind of surprise that we all want sometimes. As I was walking up and down Soi 6 I saw a lady that caught my eye. But it was more that the normal attraction, it was different. I knew her from somewhere but wasn't so sure what to make out of it. I was sure that I never fucked her as I would be remembering. I approached her, she 1000 for BJ, sex and video. Even if she didn't agree with COF. Something pushed me on taking her.
We went to room and, as I saw her topless I realized. She was the lady that I wanted to barfine on my last 2 trips but never managed to because I was always with another or she was having a customer. She was working at that time in a go go in BKK and her tight body and small tits were hard to forget.
We had sex in many positions, we talked a little and I took some pictures and videos of her. Sex was not amazing, but the feeling of finding her there (I actually looked for her in the BKK bar at the start of the trip) was a dream come true. I honestly thought about her when I was back home so it was quite a nice thing to happen.
Looks: 9.5 (maybe I am exagerating, the amount of desire I have accumulated might have increased her score, but she is a stunner).
Sex: 7 (extra points for video, but she looses all because of no COF and lack of rimming).
Lady number 7.
After I few days meeting with old friends (beer bar girls mostly), I decided I wanted something special. I went in a few go go s quite early and didn't find anything, I hit Mixx, beer bars and beach road and still nothing. Disappointed, I decided to take a last try and got into a go go bar and there she was. From the first moment I knew that she will be the lady for the night. I sat down, told the mamasan to send her to me and bring her a drink as well. She was surprised of how determined I was. We talked a little, she was smiling nice enough, her English was OK, her body felt tight enough, so I inquired about the price. She told me 4000 for LT and 600 for the bar. I accepted and paid the bar fine and tap and way we went. The other girls, mamasan and the waitress were kind of surprised as everything happened very fast and I was anyway almost the only customer in the bar.
I decided to take her out eating so we had a very nice dinner on one of the over the sea restaurants, than we went back to the apartment.
Her body was rocking hard and she was genuinely horny, her pussy was dripping wet. Sadly, she didn't allow me to take a video, but she posed for a lot of photos, and she send me even more the next days.
In bed she was amazing, blowing like crazy, fucking like a real pro, licking the cum out of her face with no hesitation, amazing. The only problem was that she was really drunk so her coordination was not great, but still, she was a great fuck.
Next morning we fucked again than we went eating. She insisted that we fuck again before she went, which we did. I payed her the (well deserved) money and decided to take a day off from the sexual activities as she really got me tired.
She kept sending me messages and photos the next days so we met again. It was even better, as we were now closer, she really did all to make me happy (apart from the video thing).
Sadly, our 'relationship' ending the very next night, when I took some other girl (an old friend) and she got so jealous and crazy. She started calling me and telling me how she is going to have me killed and so on.
Looks: 9,5 (in my standards, it rarely gets any better).
Sex: 9 (I mentioned above why not more).
GFE: 7 (it would have been a 9 but the crazy act from the end kind of left me a bitter taste. She did, however, send me a message the next day, telling me that she is sorry for her reaction).
Uncle Volodya
02-27-16, 12:32
I continued down the soi looking for that damn bar. Interesting Report Mr. E.
The only Serb bar I know is on 2nd Road in the Made in Thailand Beer bar complex. I haven't actually gone in to have a beer but they have a big Serbian national flag up in the bar and I thinks its called Serbian Bar or some such. But I hear it's not the only one in town. So maybe this isn't the one you are looking for.
I think you are wise to stay clear of the Meth dealer chick. She sounds like a great find in bed but you could get into so much damned trouble with the authorities just by guilt through association (they are just looking for any excuse to shake down falangs). Too many fish in the Pattaya sea to take that risk.
Mr Enternational
02-27-16, 15:18
The only Serb bar I know is on 2nd Road in the Made in Thailand Beer bar complex. Thanks man. I was able to find it with your help. Saw the girl in there and asked why she did not message me back to tell me where the bar was. She had a shit attitude. Said up to me. I do not have to answer if I do not want to. Too bad. Such a beautiful girl, but with that attitude I do not need her to do me any favors.
Soldierb11
02-27-16, 19:12
1-Read a lot about DD girls being mechanical. More like just doing there job rather than enjoying it. This kind of attitude is definitely not good for customers.
2-In my upcoming trip I'm planning to opt for DD girl in the first night rather than going to gogo / night club. I don't know whether I'm doing the right thing. Someone experienced can help me I guess.
3-I checked out the DD website & they have quite a list of girls listed over there. Do they list all the available girls over there or there are other more girls available if someone visit to their place?
4-I believe all the girls working in DD are available for LT out call. Correct me if I'm wrong.1-- yes the DD girls can be mechanical than the average Thai girl IMHO. But it all depends on the rapport you build with them. Little Kayla is an absolute fucking ball of energy.
2. What is right and what is wrong?
3. -- What you see on web site is what they have unless a new girl started the last day or two.
4. -- Girls that just start aren't allowed out on their own for a week or so but can be booked LT with an experienced girl.
Pipe Layer99
02-27-16, 20:17
... I dropped her off and handed her 1000 baht. She said why you give me money? Oh mothafucka! This chick is not a hooker. Now I look like a jacka$$. See that is why I follow a strict policy of only giving money to chicks who are known hookers, because there are many freebie chicks around this place as well unbeknownst to many guys. I quickly came up with a lie and said that is so you and your friend can eat good today. She gave me a kiss and said she would see me later on today.Ha. You need a refresher class on how to be player? Come on over. LMAO.
SuperMarckus
02-28-16, 00:49
she really did all to make me happy (apart from the video thing).Hi OneRose,
Just wondered: is the request to make video one that they understand straight away? What percentage say yes would you say? Is it easier to get FLers to agree than Beer Bar girls or gogos?
Sorry for the Q's, I am into the video thing and often wonder.
HotShaneHot
02-28-16, 01:33
Lady number 7.
After I few days meeting with old friends (beer bar girls mostly), I decided I wanted something special. I went in a few go go s quite early and didn't find anything, I hit Mixx, beer bars and beach road and still nothing. Disappointed, I decided to take a last try and got into a go go bar and there she was. From the first moment I knew that she will be the lady for the night. I sat down, told the mamasan to send her to me and bring her a drink as well. She was surprised of how determined I was. We talked a little, she was smiling nice enough, her English was OK, her body felt tight enough, so I inquired about the price. She told me 4000 for LT and 600 for the bar. I accepted and paid the bar fine and tap and way we went. The other girls, mamasan and the waitress were kind of surprised as everything happened very fast and I was anyway almost the only customer in the bar.
I decided to take her out eating so we had a very nice dinner on one of the over the sea restaurants, than we went back to the apartment..Hi,
Would love to see the photos.
Hots
LittleBigMan
02-28-16, 06:00
Hi,
Would love to see the photos.
HotsI would be interested too as to the Go Go, that was charging only 600 baht for Barfine?
Uncle Volodya
02-28-16, 08:55
Thanks man. I was able to find it with your help. Saw the girl in there and asked why she did not message me back to tell me where the bar was. She had a shit attitude. Said up to me. I do not have to answer if I do not want to. Too bad. Such a beautiful girl, but with that attitude I do not need her to do me any favors.Glad I could help.
Too bad about the girl. But fuck the Serbs anyway (I am Croatian).
Just kidding. I love all my Slavic brothers (and sisters). 555.
Sixty Two Echo
02-29-16, 00:56
I have returned to Pattaya after a couple of years or so. Boy, things have changed on the beach. So many vendors you can barely walk. And the amount of free lance girls along the water front seems to have declined. I arrived two days ago and spent most of my first day walking around taking it all in. Yesterday I had two girls off of the beach for 500 baht each. I had another girl offer to go for 400 baht. But she didn't want to take a taxi to my hotel, oh well. Next!
Crocodilexp
02-29-16, 01:52
Boy, things have changed on the beach. So many vendors you can barely walk. The market along Beach Road is temporary, it's a few days per month, usually not there. Business indeed suffers greatly during those times, thus the good cheap offers you got.
Does anyone know if there's any resource online with the schedule of when the bloody market will be open? It happened to me a few times to go to Pattaya and have it disrupt my hunting.
Unfortunately, the number and quality of girls (including no-market days) is significantly down compared to a few years ago. Moreover, there are very few, if any, daytime girls, the action starts after 7 pm, whereas earlier there were substantial numbers out at 4 pm, even earlier. Much more relaxed, the daytime scene. Among other things, the sidewalk renovation (removing all seating) significantly changed to Beach Road scene for the worse. Before there were plenty of semi-pros sitting around and relaxing (most still available for a leisurely ST), but now only the hardcore pros who are OK with standing and prefer not to go to other venues, and want to maximize throughput.
Mr Enternational
02-29-16, 04:39
The market along Beach Road is temporary, it's a few days per month, usually not there. Business indeed suffers greatly during those times, thus the good cheap offers you got.400 and 500 baht are the prices I have always gotten on Beach Road, market or no market. The last chick I brought to my place off 3rd Road and she made it back on her own. 500 baht. She did have a motorbike there because she asked if we would take hers or mine and I said mine. This was probably the best girl I have ever had from there both looks and performance wise. I reported on it with pictures at the time. I think it was last year.
Does anyone know if you can bring a guest to your room at Ice Inn Hotel on 2nd road?
...Unfortunately, the number and quality of girls (including no-market days) is significantly down compared to a few years ago. Moreover, there are very few, if any, daytime girls, the action starts after 7 pm, whereas earlier there were substantial numbers out at 4 pm, even earlier...When I am in Pattaya, I rely heavily on FLs from Beach Road. My experience has been quite different from yours. I was there last year in April and then in October. Both times, I was very satisfied with the quality and quantity on Beach Road. You may have just been unlucky, or you may be very picky.
For me, the action started right around lunch time. Every day, after I had lunch, I would walk along Beach Road and I had no problem finding a decent girl. However, it was much better in the evening. As a result, after a few days I had met some fine young ladies, got their contacts, and started having them come straight to my hotel.
Hi OneRose,
Just wondered: is the request to make video one that they understand straight away? What percentage say yes would you say? Is it easier to get FLers to agree than Beer Bar girls or gogos?
Sorry for the Q's, I am into the video thing and often wonder.They don't get it straight away, but I always ask them when I am negotiating. Some say yes, most say no, but it s what I like to do so I just pass the ones that refuse me. I payed a lot extra sometimes to get that, but I am not sorry because I have a great memory afterwards.
I would love to have a Thread somewhere where we all the 'video-enthusiastic' could talk about our passion. Maybe someone could give me a tip of a country with girls that agree to be filmed (except Thailand, Germany and Holland) .
I would be interested too as to the Go Go, that was charging only 600 baht for Barfine?I might be wrong, but there are a few that are asking only for 600. I wrote in my journal that I paid 600 so I don't think I had payed more. Of course, there is always room for error.
I might be wrong, but there are a few that are asking only for 600. I wrote in my journal that I paid 600 so I don't think I had payed more. Of course, there is always room for error.I can remember the Bar Fine, the girls name, what I paid her and everything else because I wrote it in my journal. But the name of the Go Go slips my memory.
OK.
I can remember the Bar Fine, the girls name, what I paid her and everything else because I wrote it in my journal. But the name of the Go Go slips my memory.
OK.Sorry man, I honestly don't remember and I don't have it in the journal. It was one in Soi Diamond but I don't remember more than that. I really don't pay so much attention on the bar fine amount. IMHO, when you are paying 4000 baht, it doesn't really make a difference if you pay 100 baht more for the BF.
Banana Boi
02-29-16, 22:39
I would be interested too as to the Go Go, that was charging only 600 baht for Barfine?I may be wrong but I thought that when I asked a Windmill girl who I was considering she said barfine 600 + ST 2500.
LittleBigMan
03-01-16, 01:34
I may be wrong but I thought that when I asked a Windmill girl who I was considering she said barfine 600 + ST 2500.Thanks that is all I needed to know. But the question was for OneRose.
LittleBigMan
03-01-16, 01:43
Sorry man, I honestly don't remember and I don't have it in the journal. It was one in Soi Diamond but I don't remember more than that. I really don't pay so much attention on the bar fine amount. IMHO, when you are paying 4000 baht, it doesn't really make a difference if you pay 100 baht more for the BF.You are correct to that regarding the relationship to paying a BF and a asking rate of 4000 baht. I've been to 90% of the GoGo in W. S. And Soi Baukhao which is 100% and although it is confusing as hell these days regarding the BF since there are so many levels of prices. But it is unusual for me at least to hear a BF of 600 and a asking price of 4000 baht? You can pay whatever you like I was just curious?
SuperMarckus
03-01-16, 02:14
They don't get it straight away, but I always ask them when I am negotiating. Some say yes, most say no, but it s what I like to do so I just pass the ones that refuse me. I payed a lot extra sometimes to get that, but I am not sorry because I have a great memory afterwards.
I would love to have a Thread somewhere where we all the 'video-enthusiastic' could talk about our passion. Maybe someone could give me a tip of a country with girls that agree to be filmed (except Thailand, Germany and Holland) .Agree entirely. I have tried to ask about the chances of getting girls on video on ISG but got the sense that nobody was interested in that / felt that I'd just get knock backs. The feedback I got seemed to be in sharp contrast to the huge amount of monger pro non the web TBH. Tho like you I have no interest in distributing the video, it's just the thrill of movie making really.
Anyhow please do keep giving info on video-making, I'm there in a few months and taking notes!
Sixty Two Echo
03-01-16, 10:36
Woke up early and walk down to the Beach Walk. I only saw a few girls out. One of the first ones I priced told me 1000 baht. I repeated the price out loud like I was surprised and she immediately said 500 baht. I said thank you and told her I was going to continue walking. The next girl I priced said 500 Baht and I agreed. Off we went. Had a great time and off she went. Later that same afternoon I went for an Oil massage. 300 baht is hard to beat. The girl that worked on me was friendly and playful and she actually knew how to massage. I asked her when her next day off was and she replied...Tomorrow. I asked her if I could buy her lunch on her day off. Her face lit up and she said yes.
Next Day
So we met, had lunch, walked around a bit. I told her I needed to make a stop at my hotel and asked if she would like to come with me. You guessed it. "sure!" Great enthusiasm. Once in the room she asked if I wanted to shower and relax. Brown chicken, brown cow. Yes, that's 70's porn music you hear in the background. I heard it too. I was very much so enjoying her company so I offered her 1000 Baht. Her face lit up again and said ok.
As you would expect the GFE (girl friend experience) was there. We had a great time together. We clean up and head back to the Beach Walk and walk around for a bit. I was getting hungry again so we had a bite. After, I offered her a ride to her place. I parked and she invited me up. We cleaned up again and watched TV and relaxed. It wasn't very late but I was sleepy. After all, I only just landed a couple of days ago. She asked if I wanted to stay and I was happy she did. I passed out. She watches TV for a couple of more hours. I wake up in the morning with her humping my leg. Haha, that was as funny as it was stimulating. She said "look what I found". Awe, she found a condom.
To be continued.
Sixty Two Echo
03-01-16, 10:44
Yes, we fooled around. Cleaned up and headed out. After giving her a ride to work and saying good bye to my massage girl..I walked along the Beach Walk. I did notice there were more free lancers out. That made me happy. I stopped and priced a couple of them and they all said 500 Baht. I was on my way to have breakfast and I had a girl a couple of hours earlier. So I did not partake. Just some information gathering. I noticed the vendors were not out either. That was a relief. From the post that followed mine, it looks like it might be over with. And yes, I agree. The renovations to the Beach Walk (IMHO) hurt the free lancers. Not a lot of places to sit. I did have to dodge a lot of Group Tourists. All Asian folk heading out to sea. Well, it's about 5 pm. Think I will head out again and see what is to be seen.
Does anyone know if you can bring a guest to your room at Ice Inn Hotel on 2nd road?The reception does. Just call and ask.
Sixty Two Echo
03-01-16, 15:37
Well, I am happy to report there are a lot more girls out on the Beach Walk then there was on Saturday and Sunday. The prices ranged from 500 baht to 1000 baht. The high end girls looked the part and I doubt they would come down in price. A couple of the other girls were willing to come down 100 baht. So, 500 baht, 600 baht and 700 baht was an average. Like I said, the very good looking, well built, young ones know who they are.
I met a very playful 24 year old with a great smile. She started off at 800 baht. And when I asked for a discount she came down to 700 baht. Works for me. Got to the room, cleaned up, got in the bed and she started acting silly....and not in the good way. After a few minutes of fooling around and she got on track. Her body was even better then I could tell looking at her on the Beach Walk. Finished up, cleaned up and gave her a ride back to the Beach Walk.
Well, I am happy to report there are a lot more girls out on the Beach Walk then there was on Saturday and Sunday. The prices ranged from 500 baht to 1000 baht. The high end girls looked the part and I doubt they would come down in price. A couple of the other girls were willing to come down 100 baht. So, 500 baht, 600 baht and 700 baht was an average. Like I said, the very good looking, well built, young ones know who they are.
I met a very playful 24 year old with a great smile. She started off at 800 baht. And when I asked for a discount she came down to 700 baht. Works for me. Got to the room, cleaned up, got in the bed and she started acting silly....and not in the good way. After a few minutes of fooling around and she got on track. Her body was even better then I could tell looking at her on the Beach Walk. Finished up, cleaned up and gave her a ride back to the Beach Walk.100 baht? I've never heard anything like that. Did the prices got so low?
Sixty Two Echo
03-03-16, 14:41
Let me start off by saying in my last message I mentioned that some girls were willing to come down 100 baht. That means if their starting price was 800 baht that some girls were willing to come down 100 baht which would equal a final price of 700 baht. Yes One Rose, it was obvious that you didn't understand my message. No big deal.
Up and down the Beach Walk I went. Prices were around 500 baht in the morning and late afternoon. And after sundown, the younger, prettier, girls in better shape came out and the prices were 700 to 1000 baht.
I have been here six days now and I have been stopped by police twice. The day before I left the United States I bought an International Drivers License from Triple A. It was well worth the $60 annual membership fee and the $28 for the International License. Both times I was stopped, I pulled out my International License and as I was handing it to the police officer. They both said you're ok and waived me off. Oh yeah, and I always wear a helmet. So, no need to comment on that.
I have been here six days now and I have been stopped by police twice. The day before I left the United States I bought an International Drivers License from Triple A. It was well worth the $60 annual membership fee and the $28 for the International License. Both times I was stopped, I pulled out my International License and as I was handing it to the police officer. They both said you're ok and waived me off. Oh yeah, and I always wear a helmet. So, no need to comment on that.Does your international driver license specifically indicate the license is for a motorcycle or is it for a car? I had one a few years ago but it wasn't for a motorcycle. Fortunately I wasn't stopped by police that trip. I ride a little in Pattaya but the increased traffic has mostly kept me off the road.
Mr Enternational
03-03-16, 18:37
Does your international driver license specifically indicate the license is for a motorcycle or is it for a car? I had one a few years ago but it wasn't for a motorcycle. Fortunately I wasn't stopped by police that trip. I ride a little in Pattaya but the increased traffic has mostly kept me off the road.I have a buddy here that has a rubber stamp of the motorcycle endorsement. He puts it in for a small fee.
Mr Enternational
03-03-16, 18:39
Two hours ago I left the Pizza Company and was driving down Beach Road. There were some damn good looking chicks out. All of them were across the street though sitting on their motorbikes talking with each other. Maybe the police was out earlier on the beach side or something.
I have been here six days now and I have been stopped by police twice. The day before I left the United States I bought an International Drivers License from Triple A. It was well worth the $60 annual membership fee and the $28 for the International License. Both times I was stopped, I pulled out my International License and as I was handing it to the police officer. They both said you're ok and waived me off. Oh yeah, and I always wear a helmet. So, no need to comment on that.Handing the guy your library card might have worked just as fine and saved you the $88. Was there more than one cop in the immediate area? If so, I'm betting the cop you went to hand your IDL card to didn't want to lose face by having to admit he couldn't read the document. Same thing goes with speaking Thai, sometimes its best to pretend you don't understand Thai and they'll go out of there way to save face.
LittleBigMan
03-04-16, 02:14
Handing the guy your library card might have worked just as fine and saved you the $88. Was there more than one cop in the immediate area? If so, I'm betting cop you went to hand your IDL card to didn't want to lose face by having to admit he couldn't read the document. Same thing goes with speaking Thai, sometimes its best to pretend you don't understand Thai and they'll go out of there way to save face.P.
That might have been the case in the past? But many now have been taught to recognize the permit, yes rarely will you find one that can actually read one. For years I just didn't want to go through the hassle to get a license so I had the I. Permit, one day on the Darkside I was pull over the guy actually can read some, said you got the most Endorsement I have ever seen in one of these books. He said you have lived here so long should get a Thai license. Now that I have got one I rarely get stopped not sure what that is all about? Some of the most common area's they do stops are 2nd Road both sides just before Mikes shopping Mall, right where Kiss is located. At night. The corner of Pattaya Tai and 2nd Road, Wednesday night the check point was huge with Giant Cone lights and everything stretching into Pattaya Tai the location of the Temple. There is also a check point on 3rd road, as you are making a left turn on Pattaya Tai near the 7/11. Also be careful of those signs that say " Waiting light left turn? " it actually means no left turn when red, if you want to make one pull forward a bit to see if there is a check point before doing so. If you live on the Darkside, going home on Pattaya Tai / Sukhumvit they are doing Breath test. Saturday night I saw the lights ahead and made a detour into a side street.
... He said you have lived here so long should get a Thai license. Now that I have got one I rarely get stopped not sure what that is all about?
The Problem is: if you have an accident and even it's not your fault. No insurance will pay for you, if you are living in Thailand and don't have the Thai license!
Sixty Two Echo
03-04-16, 09:43
I have the motorcycle endorsement on my International and my State Drivers License. I was told at the Triple A Office that I had to present my Home State Drivers License as well and that it had to have the Motorcycle endorsement. So everything is legit on my end. Actually, I was stopped at Pattaya Thai and 2nd Road. And I have seen the large red light triangles set up recently near that location.
As for the Police Officer being able to read or not. That really isn't a concern of mine. My job is to comply with officials and their directions. If you had seen the International License I was talking about. You would know that it would only take you seeing it once and you would recognize them with no problem. Of course you have to open it and see what endorsements are marked. But for what ever reason I was sent on my way prior to opening my license. Oh, and part of that $88 fee comes with a one year road side assistance back in the States. Along with a laundry list of services. So it's a little more value then you give credit for Breadman. The actual License is only $15 with an $8 charge for the two photos they took. I realize $23 US might be a lot for you to pay. But for me, no. Plus it's the right way to do it.
Mr Enternational
03-04-16, 11:21
I just left my tailor. He said a Black American guy paid US$1000 (35,000 baht) for a Russian chick last month. I said bullshit. He said he was right there when the guy called the mamasan on the phone. He said he thought I might know the guy and is going to show me his picture tomorrow. I told him that I doubt that I know anyone that would spend $1000 on some pussy, or even $100 for that matter.
The Problem is: if you have an accident and even it's not your fault. No insurance will pay for you, if you are living in Thailand and don't have the Thai license!Not true; if you have a valid international license you are ok. Yes, I know this first hand.
LittleBigMan
03-04-16, 13:34
The Problem is: if you have an accident and even it's not your fault. No insurance will pay for you, if you are living in Thailand and don't have the Thai license!The problem you been talking to bunch of Thai girls who only have nothing but rumors to this? The reality is this. Before someone else brings it up for correction. The reference to the International License isn't a license at all! It is a Permit.
When you are buying a bike every year you must register the bike around the time of the purchase. Once done you get a sticker that is given to you for the bike for the following year. Along with the sticker you get a small receipt that is their so call insurance but the insurance isn't for 3rd party, it is basically to cover you for is your own injuries, the coverage is for something like10-15,000 baht. I was told by a nurse at Bangkok / Pattaya Hospital you can get coverage at any hospital in Thailand. Really not sure you have to pay up front first and get the paperwork for reimburstment From my experience I will take a stab at this that 90% of bike owners in Thailand do not have 3rd party, the only one's that might are the well off and Expat and I can 99.9% of the bike being rented do not have 3rd party. 3rd party is basically injury and damage to the other vehicle. That is why if there is a accident of any type you will see the Thai driver take off if possible! I've been in a few fender benders 100% not my fault, once they find out that I'm a Farang here it comes. There are a number of BIB, like to settle cases for their own kind like this but if you let them blame yourself for letting it happen. In my seat I have a small list of items translated for accidents I use it to point out to the offender what they did wrong, I have used this with the BIB once his jaw just dropped not knowing what to tell the Thai guy. I also keep a small handbook under my seat. Since there was no damage just needed to make a point I just got back on my bike and left. The first thing you should ask is if the other driver has a license, majority of the kids do not and many older guys don't or they are expired. As for 3rd party insurance you can buy one from 2,000 to 3,000 baht a year depending how much coverage you want. Don't believe everything you hear. When you say no insurance will ever pay... you are right to a point like I said majority do not have any. In a accident normal procedure you go down to the local station for the BIB to file a report. The Thai guy will sign what he needs to sign to say he will pay you. The I.D. they carried from my experience most likely is outdated long time ago. But the BIB have no way to check it out, the system isn't there they are still writing reports in a log book 50 years behind time. When you walk out the door it will be the last time you will ever see him do not hold your breath waiting for payment. Remember when you are scraping the bottom you aren't going to find much. Just write it off as a lost... that's why I do what the Thais do.. just keeping going as if nothing has happened.
I just left my tailor. He said a Black American guy paid US$1000 (35,000 baht) for a Russian chick last month. I said bullshit. He said he was right there when the guy called the mamasan on the phone. He said he thought I might know the guy and is going to show me his picture tomorrow. I told him that I doubt that I know anyone that would spend $1000 on some pussy, or even $100 for that matter.It was me E. So I need you to help me out on my pussy budget for the next three months. LOL.
After all, what are friends for?
Pipe Layer99
03-04-16, 19:22
It was me E. So I need you to help me out on my pussy budget for the next three months. LOL.
After all, what are friends for?You full of shit TA. LOL. I know you are waaaayyyyy smarter than that! ;)
Pipe Layer99
03-04-16, 19:58
P.
That might have been the case in the past? But many now have been taught to recognize the permit, yes rarely will you find one that can actually read one. For years I just didn't want to go through the hassle to get a license so I had the I. Permit, one day on the Darkside I was pull over the guy actually can read some, said you got the most Endorsement I have ever seen in one of these books. He said you have lived here so long should get a Thai license. Now that I have got one I rarely get stopped not sure what that is all about? Some of the most common area's they do stops are 2nd Road both sides just before Mikes shopping Mall, right where Kiss is located. At night. The corner of Pattaya Tai and 2nd Road, Wednesday night the check point was huge with Giant Cone lights and everything stretching into Pattaya Tai the location of the Temple. There is also a check point on 3rd road, as you are making a left turn on Pattaya Tai near the 7/11. Also be careful of those signs that say " Waiting light left turn? " it actually means no left turn when red, if you want to make one pull forward a bit to see if there is a check point before doing so. If you live on the Darkside, going home on Pattaya Tai / Sukhumvit they are doing Breath test. Saturday night I saw the lights ahead and made a detour into a side street.That's good intel. Thanks man!
Enough already about motorbike licenses permits boys in blue and all that rubbish this is for info and reports on fun and mongering in Pattaya let's get back to basics guys.
Wolvenvacht
03-05-16, 09:25
I have a buddy here that has a rubber stamp of the motorcycle endorsement. He puts it in for a small fee."Real fake" no doubt.
But of course the International Driving Permit has no value in itself and must always be accompanied by the original national driver's licence.
See article 41,2, (a), (ii) of the "CONVENTION ON ROAD TRAFFIC" (Vienna 8 November 1968, as amended many times):
2. (a) Contracting Parties shall recognize:
(i) (. . .);.
(ii) Any international permit conforming to the provisions of Annex 7 to this Convention, on condition that it is presented with the corresponding domestic driving permit.
Mr Enternational
03-05-16, 10:51
But of course the International Driving Permit has no value in itself and must always be accompanied by the original national driver's licence.And that is what I am not getting about this. Because before I had a Thai license, I had no problem with just using my USA license by itself without an International Driving Permit here or in any other country I have been to. As a matter of fact when I rent cars in other countries I do it using my Thai license and they don't even understand that.
FYI the Thai license for people on tourist visas is now good for 2 years instead of 1 year as it was before.
LittleBigMan
03-05-16, 12:26
Enough already about motorbike licenses permits boys in blue and all that rubbish this is for info and reports on fun and mongering in Pattaya let's get back to basics guys.That is your opinion! Guess you just haven't been around long enough! See for those brave enough to venture on one. It is the key in the mongering scene since it not only provide transportation it represents freedom. With one your options expands and if one doesn't know anything about the proper paperwork they can't Mongers instead spend time at the local police station paying fines which could limit a individual mongering options. Be patient and try to get the big picture next time.
LittleBigMan
03-05-16, 12:31
"Real fake" no doubt.
But of course the International Driving Permit has no value in itself and must always be accompanied by the original national driver's licence.
See article 41,2, (a), (ii) of the "CONVENTION ON ROAD TRAFFIC" (Vienna 8 November 1968, as amended many times):
2. (a) Contracting Parties shall recognize:
(i) (. . .);.
(ii) Any international permit conforming to the provisions of Annex 7 to this Convention, on condition that it is presented with the corresponding domestic driving permit.Wolve. This is all relevant to us but has no relation to the BiB, since it most likely even their superior doesn't know about it and even if they did wouldn't be able to explain it so it could be understood and if they understand it they wouldn't be able to explain it to you in English.
Wolvenvacht
03-05-16, 14:44
Wolve. This is all relevant to us but has no relation to the BiB, since it most likely even their superior doesn't know about it and even if they did wouldn't be able to explain it so it could be understood and if they understand it they wouldn't be able to explain it to you in English.Unfortunately that is all too true, so it is even more necessary to take care of it yourself and make sure you stay on the right side of the law.
I don't want to get caught with a false "motorcycle endorsement" stamp on my IDP and no such endorsement on my domestic driver's licence.
Wolvenvacht
03-05-16, 15:05
And that is what I am not getting about this. Because before I had a Thai license, I had no problem with just using my USA license by itself without an International Driving Permit here or in any other country I have been to. As a matter of fact when I rent cars in other countries I do it using my Thai license and they don't even understand that.
FYI the Thai license for people on tourist visas is now good for 2 years instead of 1 year as it was before.Of course, you know that the USA is not a member of the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic, so the IDP rules I explained do not apply to you. Perhaps Thailand and the USA have a bilateral agreement about recognizing each other's driver's permits.
Sixty Two Echo
03-05-16, 15:23
Finally caught up on some much needed rest and had enough energy to go out. Stopped at the Angel Witch and had a couple of beers. Watched the shows. About 1 am I headed to The Marine Disco. Wow, must have been too early for that place. It was empty. Headed straight to IBar. Very crowded. Started off at the ground floor. Soon after I headed upstairs and enjoyed a few more beers and met up with a mid twenties girl. After a while she asked if I wanted some company back at my hotel. I said sure. How much. She said 2000 baht. I said sorry, my mother doesn't let me pay more then 1000 baht for short time. She got a kick out of it but didn't want to come down on her price. So I walked away. Not three minutes later. Met a curvy dark haired cutie with a big smile and thick thighs. We hit it off. I asked her how much and she said. Up to you. In such situations I always reply with. Free! She laughed. I offered 1000 baht and her smile got even bigger. Haha, probably could have offered 500 baht. Bad cheap charily! We headed out. Got to the hotel, cleaned up. And had a great time. Well worth the 1000 baht. We said our good byes and off she went. It was almost 6 am when she left. Ouch!
Sixty Two Echo
03-05-16, 15:34
Well, didn't quite plan my morning very well. Got a phone call from the front desk asking if I wanted to extend my stay. Oops, I forgot to pay for another week yesterday. So up I get and pay for the room. Went to eat. Walked the Beach. About 3 pm get a massage. Walked the Beach some more. It's good for you. Was going to head to the room when a great big smile caught my eye. Had to stop even if to only say Hello. Very friendly 24 year old. With a prototypical big Thai smile. I priced her. 800 baht. I counter with 700 baht just to see and she didn't even hesitate and said sure. Her smile was to warm and inviting. So I said ok. Get to the room and she was very relaxed and easy going. Playful and full of laughter. A very comfortable girl to be around. Wow, she was all good. Tight body, great with her hands, had some skills. Another Blue Chipper. Dropped her off at a store and went for dinner. Back at the hotel taking it easy.
Hi fellow ISGians.
I am visiting Pattaya first time shortly. RTFF now have a rough idea about WS, LKMetro, Soi bukhao. The Gogo bar scene, The clubs, The beach road freelancers, etc.
Anyone has good independent, affordable contacts, if anyone can share, specially I like Europeans, Russians, Blondes with good service and body shape, and good GFE who can communicate at least little bit in English. I am also looking for some good company for sightseeing, [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117) and enjoyment during daytime, a good GFE.
Someone will say for Russians why come here, go to Russia, but for me coming to Thailand is more feasible and cheap than going to Europe or Russia. Shall be obliged if the experienced ones can throw some light or pm me some tips / contacts.
Thanks in anticipation.
Sixty Two Echo
03-06-16, 07:19
Had breakfast and had my morning stroll up and down the Beach Walk. I noticed a couple of bikes being chained together by the local Police. The interesting part was the owners were there and they looked like street vendors. I also witnessed a foreigner getting a citation for driving the wrong way on a one way street. It looks to me like the number of Police out has increased slightly in recent days. Could be the beginning of the month and they are trying to hit quotas. Who knows, just an observation. And a friendly heads up.
....The reference to the International License isn't a license at all! It is a Permit....
Lot of text, but you don't get it!
Sorry I speak German. Maybe you are right it's a permit not a license. But what I said is still the way it works!
1. Farang is always doing wrong. Even when you did everything correct.
2. The Police like your money -so they find ways to get it.
3. If you live in Thailand, you need the Thai Permit and the International is only for Holidays or short time stay.
But it's up to you, what you want to believe. - not my problem! I had an accident with bicycle and 3 Policeman tried to tell me that it is may fault, when a crazy Thai Motorbike catch me from the back. - I could proof that the driver lied. Then it was OK. With the bicycle you don't need Permit. But with car or motorbike you will have a big Problem with the wrong Permit.
Wolvenvacht
03-06-16, 09:20
Hi fellow ISGians.
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Anyone has good independent, affordable contacts, if anyone can share, specially I like Europeans, Russians, Blondes with good service and body shape, and good GFE who can communicate at least little bit in English. I am also looking for some good company for sightseeing, CodeWord117 and enjoyment during daytime, a good GFE.
Forget about good service from Russians. All reports on this and similar other sites agree on one thing: these girls (or rather women) are experts of giving you a good feeling and experience in the club but once out of the club, they will "escort" you to your hotel and then say good bye.
Someone will say for Russians why come here, go to Russia, but for me coming to Thailand is more feasible and cheap than going to Europe or Russia.
Whatever is reported on these Russians, the word "cheap" is never used. They are expensive, they want payment up front and they don't provide any valuable service outside of the club. Inside of the club, they are friendly as long as the money keeps rolling.
I have been to Pattaya four times before and had a great time always but I only usual areas for fun walking street LK metro second road beach road Soi 7 and 8 and soi 6 even fee times Jomtien but never been to dark side of Pattaya. I will be there again I'm may for 3 weeks and looking on internet quite fancy trying some of the bars on the darksixr of Pattaya but from the maps it looks like big distances between the bars so maybe hard to visit too many on each visit. Can anyone recommend best bars to visit currently for fun times with decent ladies at reasonable prices it seems these bats open and close and change names all the time. Would appreciate any help in finding best area with good bars within walking distance from each other on the dark side thanks for a why help guys.
Arn Poddict
03-06-16, 10:48
Someone will say for Russians why come here, go to Russia, but for me coming to Thailand is more feasible and cheap than going to Europe or Russia. Shall be obliged if the experienced ones can throw some light or pm me some tips / contacts.If you like Russians why not try Dubai? Not the cheapest place but the quality should be pretty good.
Blanquiceleste
03-06-16, 11:42
Anyone has good independent, affordable contacts, if anyone can share, specially I like Europeans, Russians, Blondes with good service and body shape, and good GFE who can communicate at least little bit in English.
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Someone will say for Russians why come here, go to Russia, but for me coming to Thailand is more feasible and cheap than going to Europe or Russia. Shall be obliged if the experienced ones can throw some light or pm me some tips / contacts.
Thanks in anticipation.After reading all the relevant posts here (and possibly a few other forums) if you still wish to go after the CIS women in Thailand, I can wish you nothing but good luck. The CIS women you may encounter in Thailand are simply a waste of time and money IMHO. They will all ask for 3 times the money you might pay a Thai girl, will demand the money upfront and then simply not provide one quarter the service you will get from the most average Thai girl.
Of course, if this is all OK with you just for the feeling of having bedded a 'Russian' then there are plenty of women waiting in Thailand to relieve you of your cash.
There is an old adage. A fool and his money are soon parted.
LittleBigMan
03-06-16, 12:00
Lot of text, but you don't get it!
Sorry I speak German. Maybe you are right it's a permit not a license. But what I said is still the way it works!
1. Farang is always doing wrong. Even when you did everything correct.
2. The Police like your money -so they find ways to get it.
3. If you live in Thailand, you need the Thai Permit and the International is only for Holidays or short time stay.
But it's up to you, what you want to believe. - not my problem! I had an accident with bicycle and 3 Policeman tried to tell me that it is may fault, when a crazy Thai Motorbike catch me from the back. - I could proof that the driver lied. Then it was OK. With the bicycle you don't need Permit. But with car or motorbike you will have a big Problem with the wrong Permit.You need to take your own advice and just move on. As I noted, what they think their culture the BIB even the temple etc. Has nothing to do with who is a fault. The only determination is the rules and laws of driving which believe it or not are taken from the West. If you actually feel that way why even come! Stay home that way you wouldn't be blame for anything!
Personally, you lost me after " still the way it works " not sure what all the other stuff has to do with my comment?
Sixty Two Echo
03-06-16, 16:48
After dinner walked the beach. Seen a lot of girls out tonight. And at Beach Road and Soi 6 around 8:30 pm. Police check point. I counted 10 officers. And a lot of folks getting pulled over and receiving citations. Welcome to Pattaya! Stopped and priced one girl and she said 1000 baht. I countered with 700 and she said ok. After talking with her a tad longer I decided to move on. Came across a thick legged cutie with a big smile. Had to say Hello,. Asked how much. She said 1000 baht. I counter with 700. And she says 800. Sold! Off we went. Another top performer. She was worth every baht. Cleaned up and dropped her off at the beach walk. Another satisfied customer.
Crocodilexp
03-06-16, 17:13
Indeed, Beach Road has been unusually good lately in the evenings (not as good as heyday, but better than I ever remember in 2015). Got one for 600 baht, another one for 700 baht ST recently.
Just got into Pattaya & walked the full length of the beach from soi Yamoto to Walking Street. Didn't see a single girl plying the trade! What has happened guys? Its like '04-'06 again:
Christian G
03-06-16, 18:23
Its like '04-'06 again:Why? What's happen in 2004-2006 ?
Why? What's happen in 2004-2006 ?Bigger than usual crackdown: no girls whatever for a year or two, just black-shirted para-police.
Might've been closer to '05-'06, my memory is weak.
Never mind, must've been just after a police sweep. I went out again about one AM and saw a fair number of girls out on the beach. I guess that can happen. You come back after an absence at the wrong moment and think the whole thing's shut down. That said, the existence of such nightly sweeps, shakedowns, and most particularly drug tests explains why there are so few good ones around anymore.
Banana Boi
03-06-16, 20:26
explains why there are so few good ones around anymore.A girl in her early 20's and hot would work in a gogo bar earning 4000+ baht instead of being haggled for 700-800 baht on Beach Road. At that rate all she has to do is get 1 guy every 4-5 nights and she is ahead, not to mention the money she makes at the gogo club in between LT sessions.
After a crazy sequence of flights, I finally got to Pattaya Sunday evening. I had booked Tan's Taxi from BKK, which is a bit pricier at 1300 bahts but I had read patchy reports of Mr. T's service. I was delayed at the airport by about 90 minutes and she was still waiting for me when I got out. Gave me water, mints, etc. Spoke English fairly well. Fairly happy with the service.
I took a nap till 9:30 pm, and then thought I'd scope out the area. I had little to no intention of barfining anyone but I thought I might hit some gogos and have some hands-on fun. So, I hit some I found mentioned in this forum. I walked from VT6 to Walking St. I had been scared of the distances but these were insanely walkable distances. Maybe it's different under a punishing sun but walking was just fine for me. Didn't feel a need for a baht bus.
First, I went to Blue Electric (Electric Blue? Guy at door said 'buy beer. 90 baht? I said, don't worry. Went inside and they were practically standing on my head waiting for me to order. Got a Jack and coke for 160 be (in Phuket, this was 220 b). Girls were dancing fully nude. I liked that part. Bought an LD for a girl, also 160 be. Girl was very hands-on but didn't say much. Kept wanting to go up. BF is 900 and girl wanted 2000 (I assume for ST? Do they charge extra for room? Made an exit and took another stroll up / down Walking Street.
Went to Windmill. Copious amounts of nudity but I was expecting a crazy level of debauchery, and as far I saw, it was all pretty tame. Girls standing on the stage fully nude but barely moving. Two sets of girls doing a 69-like pose but not moving or doing anything. Weird. One guy dry-humping a girl sitting on his lap (standard strip club fare). Mostly seemed like a light version of Hong Kong Club in Tijuana except guy-girl ratio is reversed: Windmill didn't have a lot of girls except on the stage. Nothing spectacular. Maybe need to come again? The reviews were all overwhelming great. But mostly just guys sitting alone and not a lot of available seating. Bought Black and Coke for 160 be.
Saw that they were advertising Sugar Baby, so made way there after another walk up and down Walking Street. Ordered a beer for 150 be. Old hag kept trying to push a not-attractive girl on me. Liked one girl dancing and bought her a LD for 160 be (she came and sat for a bit and then asked for a drink). Bad move. Even with full glass in front of her, now she doesn't want the drink, she wants to go upstairs. Was a bits hands on, but kept staring away, not interested. So, packed her off (asked for a tip! Her name was "Om"). BF here is 1000 be.) They did not return my change of 10 baht. 150+160=310. I gave 320 and lady never came back. Couldn't even say which one it was. Just 10 b, so I moved on but I was not happy.
This time I learned from my last trip and asked about BFs early! Walked out of there around 3 am and everything was shutting down. Wasn't sure if going to I-bar / Insomnia has an entry fee or not. Decided not to check it out. Came back via Beach Road looking at FLs. Nothing struck my fancy. Came back to VT6 by 3:45 AM.
Caffe Hermano
03-07-16, 06:05
Hi fellow ISGians.
Someone will say for Russians why come here, go to Russia, but for me coming to Thailand is more feasible and cheap than going to Europe or Russia. Shall be obliged if the experienced ones can throw some light or pm me some tips / contacts.
Thanks in anticipation.The Russians in Pattaya leave a lot to be expected. Specially for SE Asian mongers. Here they know they are on top of the value chain and they make good use of that information. So do not expect to have good VFM if you are not paying top dollars. It is indeed better to go to a place where brown skin is regarded as exotic, that way you get really good attitude from the ladies if you look and smell like a half-decent guy.
Visiting the Stans instead of Russia is not that much of a challenge. My 2 cents.
FunExplorer
03-07-16, 07:35
Please let me know how good is Kitten Club. I understand they have ladyboys too there in which case I would not like to visit.
Eric Swiss
03-07-16, 08:01
I went to Skyfall to warm up, and was treated to a beautiful spectacle of hot little stunners gyrating wildly right under my nose. Nobody I felt interested enough to offer a lady drink to, but after one beer my brain had switched to full-on sexual prowling mode.
This led me to Insomnia (upstairs). I didn't even bother to buy a beer. I just went around, made no contact (those things are random), and took the back staircase down to ground level. The atmosphere suited me better: more relaxed, less noise, and (I thought) more girls. At one table there were 2 older guys and 2 hot chicks. I was confused as to the setup initially. One of the girls turned around, faced me, smiled at me, so I just encroached.
Her name was Chon. She was beautiful. Very thin. Great smile. OK English. I think the older guys had made a pass at her and she wanted to avoid them, so she latched onto me so she could still fulfill her objective of the night (earn muito shekels) but without feeling like it was too much hard work. The older guys were pretty cool, and I am happy they're still out there hitting it, as it makes my job of picking up hot chicks easier. By the way, if they're still out there, it is because statistically they have a fairly decent probability of being successful. Although I think when I get older, if I'm still alive, I'll probably go to go-go bars instead, as you've got the mamasan on your side telling the girls to sleep with you.
I asked her if she wanted to go out with me. She said yes if you pay me. I said how much. She said 1500 Baht. I said OK. We went out. I took her to Oasis hotel on Soi Happy. It's 500 Baht but the chicks dig it. She was immediately taken by the expensive-looking decor, the mirrors everywhere (especially on the ceiling), and the muted lighting that puts you in an erotic mood. Evidently she'd never been to such a classy place before. She totally relaxed and let me take care of her. I admired her youth and beauty. We had a wonderful time. It was really like picking up a normal chick in a nightclub in Europe, taking her home, and banging the crap out of her.
I banged her for a bit too long, so I gave her a tip on top. We were all happy with the transaction. There was no clock watching. I was thinking to myself: 1500 Baht, that's so dirt cheap for such a wonderful experience. Hey, Pattaya.
Eric Swiss
03-07-16, 08:39
Saw that they were advertising Sugar Baby, so made way there after another walk up and down Walking Street. Ordered a beer for 150 be. Old hag kept trying to push a not-attractive girl on me. Liked one girl dancing and bought her a LD for 160 be (she came and sat for a bit and then asked for a drink). Bad move. Even with full glass in front of her, now she doesn't want the drink, she wants to go upstairs. Was a bits hands on, but kept staring away, not interested. So, packed her off (asked for a tip! Her name was "Om"). BF here is 1000 be.) They did not return my change of 10 baht. 150+160=310. I gave 320 and lady never came back. Couldn't even say which one it was. Just 10 b, so I moved on but I was not happy.
This time I learned from my last trip and asked about BFs early! Walked out of there around 3 am and everything was shutting down. Wasn't sure if going to I-bar / Insomnia has an entry fee or not. Decided not to check it out. Came back via Beach Road looking at FLs. Nothing struck my fancy. Came back to VT6 by 3:45 AM.Hello Maila:
Glad you managed to make your way to Pattaya somehow. I hope it will be a memorable experience for you. One piece of advice is, don't neglect the late morning / afternoon / early evening scene. I am not an expert, but I assume you can get specific pointers on how to do that from researching this forum. I believe that getting one easy pop out of the way mid-day takes a lot of the pressure from having to negotiate Walking Street at midnight.
The way I would do it if I were you: 1) go to Skyfall to warm up; 2) go to Insomnia / I-Bar to check out the freelancers; 3) go to Happy A go-go for a sure thing. If this doesn't work, go to Baccara or Airline. I would advise checking out Insomnia / I-bar once between every go-go bars. I've been there at least a dozen times and never been charged an entrance fee, but I don't know their full policy. Since you like walking, you can also go up and down Beach Road at least once during the night. You may find something to your liking.
I think that by alternating between go-go bars that have lookers (like Skyfall and Sensations), go-go bars that have girl that want to jump on your cock (like Happy and Airline), freelancers in a bar (IBar / Insomnia) and freelancers on the street (Beach Road), you will maximize your chances of happiness and fulfillment. Change of venue makes the night better.
Much depends on how old you are, how fat you are, how bald you are, how swarthy is your skin, etc. The girls end up choosing you at some level. But the girls in Pattaya are much less choosy than anywhere else when you grease their palms.
Hello Maila:
Glad you managed to make your way to Pattaya somehow. I hope it will be a memorable experience for you. One piece of advice is, don't neglect the late morning / afternoon / early evening scene. I am not an expert, but I assume you can get specific pointers on how to do that from researching this forum. I believe that getting one easy pop out of the way mid-day takes a lot of the pressure from having to negotiate Walking Street at midnight.
The way I would do it if I were you: 1) go to Skyfall to warm up; 2) go to Insomnia / I-Bar to check out the freelancers; 3) go to Happy A go-go for a sure thing. If this doesn't work, go to Baccara or Airline. I would advise checking out Insomnia / I-bar once between every go-go bars. I've been there at least a dozen times and never been charged an entrance fee, but I don't know their full policy. Since you like walking, you can also go up and down Beach Road at least once during the night. You may find something to your liking.
I think that by alternating between go-go bars that have lookers (like Skyfall and Sensations), go-go bars that have girl that want to jump on your cock (like Happy and Airline), freelancers in a bar (IBar / Insomnia) and freelancers on the street (Beach Road), you will maximize your chances of happiness and fulfillment. Change of venue makes the night better.
Much depends on how old you are, how fat you are, how bald you are, how swarthy is your skin, etc. The girls end up choosing you at some level. But the girls in Pattaya are much less choosy than anywhere else when you grease their palms.I'm actually interested in the daytime options but not sure what there is apart from Soi 6 (haven't been there yet). I did find intel in the forum regarding "daytime gogos" - however, somebody visited them and said they were marginal and mostly ymmv. I think I read about Kinaree Place as somewhere to spend days at. I'll try some of these other go-gos though I lean towards the ones with more skin and touching.
I'll give I-bar a try not sure really sure about getting a girl at the clubs based on my good looks and charm. I'm not old but not fit these days. Really need to get back into running and get fit again. Shooting to do that in spring / summer. I might look to coming back to SE Asia in either May or July and then have a better shot. Fortunately, I am able to travel frequently.
Thank you for your helpful suggestions. I really appreciate it!
One newbie question: how does one get from WS or elsewhere with girl to hotel? Baht bus, motor bike? Walk? (doubt I'll make a girl walk from WS to VT6).
Caffe Hermano
03-07-16, 09:30
Saw that they were advertising Sugar Baby, so made way there after another walk up and down Walking Street. Ordered a beer for 150 be. Old hag kept trying to push a not-attractive girl on me. Liked one girl dancing and bought her a LD for 160 be (she came and sat for a bit and then asked for a drink). Bad move. Even with full glass in front of her, now she doesn't want the drink, she wants to go upstairs. Was a bits hands on, but kept staring away, not interested. So, packed her off (asked for a tip! Her name was "Om"). BF here is 1000 be.) They did not return my change of 10 baht. 150+160=310. I gave 320 and lady never came back. Couldn't even say which one it was. Just 10 b, so I moved on but I was not happy.Sugarbaby held a goldmine for me. Went there last December. Me and wingman drop in at 10 pm after visiting two other bars which did not prove lucky. But boy, we were in for a sweet treat! The atmosphere is electric and the oldies having DATY right at the counter like it's a all-you-can-eat sushi buffet I am not a DATY fan when it comes to WGs so that fun is wasted on me. The first girl who comes over is Miss and. Superb figure, medium boobs and perky. She offers awesome DFK and starts grinding. I pay for LDs and the waitress also wants one. Anyways I am already climbing the stairs to heaven so I pay for it. Friend is also looking around to catch a major hottie. Both of us like early 20's chick because teenagers just don't turn us on. Soon we are decided to take the girls back to bay walk residence where we were staying. Highly recommended and 2 minutes from walking street. (wake up early at least one day to enjoy the sea view from the top floor while having breakfast, scrambled eggs are worth dying for!
Mami says 6 k, we tell her we are not noobs. Soon she comes back and says you can get 3 k after 12 am. We are fine with it though we know it's still overpaying. Well you have to excuse me I was not thinking straight with and grinding and bumping. I had already explored every nook and cranny on her body. So after 12 am the gals go to the back room to dress up. I want to see if the waitress has anything to offer after my 2 LDs. Seems like she is game for some squeeze. She is all giggly and tells us to visit again. So my LDs were not completely wasted thank god.
The ladies come back in sexy dinner dresses. So we feel the need to wine and dine them, sorry but we are gentlemen. Too late for food but you get all these street food which the gals love to munch. They buy a ton of stuff which I feel is too much for 2 gals to eat. Turned out they were planning for our breakfasts! Such nice kids. Service was superb once back in sack. Definitely recommended. I got to see their IDs at the reception and they are 25-26. Perfect for our fantasies. Stayed back till 8 am and invited us to bike rides later in the day. Good GFE. Look forward to meeting her again in June.
Caffe Hermano
03-07-16, 09:35
One newbie question: how does one get from WS or elsewhere with girl to hotel? Baht bus, motor bike? Walk? (doubt I'll make a girl walk from WS to VT6).Hey you,
Already know the answers! Baht bus if you want to penny pinch, else motor bike is my fav. Make the girl sit in-between and have fun with tits as you ride back to heaven walk only if really close like 2 minutes maximum. Ask the bikes rates to WS in the morning to make fair idea, else when coming back at night, they see the girl, they will jack up the price 4 times.
Banana Boi
03-07-16, 09:47
One newbie question: how does one get from WS or elsewhere with girl to hotel? Baht bus, motor bike? Walk? (doubt I'll make a girl walk from WS to VT6).Baht bus is set at 20 baht for 2 and girls are fine with this given VT6 is on the main baht bus route. I've also taken a taxi for 100 baht which is always appreciated by the girls.
Daytime options. As you said soi 6 and Kinaree. Other options are the soapies on 2nd near soi 6, Sabai Dee, Sabai Room, Honey 2, Rasputin. There is also Honey 1 really close to VT6.
You don't have to be hot to pick up a girl at i-Bar / Insomnia.
Christian G
03-07-16, 10:26
I'm actually interested in the daytime options but not sure what there is apart from Soi 6 (haven't been there yet). I did find intel in the forum regarding "daytime gogos" - however, somebody visited them and said they were marginal and mostly ymmv. I think I read about Kinaree Place as somewhere to spend days at. Full of daytime choice but not many great beauty around. A part soi6, you have little massage shop all around soi Honey, Soi chayapoon and Soi Buakhao, and Bodymassage like Banana Boi already wrote.
Place like Kinnaree, Passion, Winchester, Heaven's, Viper, Bar de La Poste, Telephone Bar, Jade House, Lol_it_as, Club 4, 007, Pirates, Excite, Bliss Lounge, Mclub, LE Carre Blanc and sure more club that now I don't remember.
One newbie question: how does one get from WS or elsewhere with girl to hotel? Baht bus, motor bike? Walk? (doubt I'll make a girl walk from WS to VT6).I always move around everywhere at everytime with my motorbike.
Pipe Layer99
03-07-16, 10:35
I'm actually interested in the daytime options but not sure what there is apart from Soi 6 (haven't been there yet). I did find intel in the forum regarding "daytime gogos" - however, somebody visited them and said they were marginal and mostly ymmv. I think I read about Kinaree Place as somewhere to spend days at. ...
One newbie question: how does one get from WS or elsewhere with girl to hotel? Baht bus, motor bike? Walk? (doubt I'll make a girl walk from WS to VT6).2 options to get back to your hotel. Fastest way is to grab a motorbike taxi (about 100 baht). Otherwise, just a short walk to 2nd road and get the baht bus (20 baht for two people).
Daytime action, in addition to Soi 6.
Check out Soi honey (next street over from LK Metro) just off soi buakhao.
Soi Chaloem Phrakiat (the street next to Soi Lengkee).
Walk down Soi 13/1 and 13/2.
Enjoy!
You don't have to be hot to pick up a girl at i-Bar / Insomnia.Hey guys, particularly Eric Swiss, Banana Boi, Pipe Layer, Sixty Two Echo etc...or anyone else. Re I Bar and Insomnia, I will be in Pattaya in about 7 weeks for about 2-3 weeks, also staying at the VT6 condo.
I have only been to Pattaya once before and that was nearly 15 years ago. In my mid 50's now. So what's a good time to go, for someone like me to Ibar or Insomnia or one of the otter discos / dance clubs? I dress pretty decent / hip and love to dance to all kinds of music like pop, hip hop, rap, rock etc. Even now, sometimes when I dance at night (I'm a night owl and prefer the 11 pm- 5 am hours) either in the USA / home or in Brazil or Peru etc I seem to attract attention from some (key word being some) of the young chicks, even the bartender chicks in the USA who see me often and seem to dig me.
So, I guess the question is, for someone with my kind of profile and Hispanic or Brazilian looking guy, what's the best time to go to say a place like I Bar or Insomnia or other dance clubs? What are my chances with the freelancers in general (statistically speaking) and any other clubs besides Ibar / Insomnia that I should hit?
I have RTTF quite a bit, but still don't quite know what to expect, as I am more of freelancer guy and in Latin American countries I stay focused on the Latin Cupid girls, even though I am not Latin American and don't speak Spanish either! LOL. I generally go to Latin Countries with about 25-50 contacts that I develop ahead of time via Latin Cupid! LOL. And usually when I meet these contacts at a dance club they seem to also find me semi attractive and I score 95 % of time, and without ever talking about money ahead of time.
So, for someone like me, what do you recommend as a strategy for Pattaya? Thanks guys. You seem to very successful with your time in Pattaya, which is why I ask.
Of course, I could always go to a soapie or a go-go, and money is not a problem (well up to say 5-6 K a night for partying.) But I actually prefer to find semi pros and freelanccers and when I find good ones, I generally hang with one for say 2-3 days, before I switch. I tend to avoid real pros and I also tend to be quite picky and stick to under 23 and have not had much of a problem in dance clubs even at my sorry age! Haha! I prefer young girls who like to drink and dance intensely for hours .....
Mr Enternational
03-07-16, 13:14
what's the best time to go to say a place like I Bar or Insomnia or other dance clubs? What are my chances with the freelancers in general (statistically speaking) and any other clubs besides Ibar / Insomnia that I should hit?The best time to go to discos is 1am. If you go any earlier then they will be empty. Don't know how you will like Insomnia. It is like hard techno and EDM with a lot of bass and a lot of flashing lights. My 43 year old heart and eyes can not take it. But iBar downstairs is good. You don't really dance at iBar. Hence the "Bar" in the name. There are many discos and all are free to get into so just go to all of them and decide which you like best.
I would say your chance with freelancers is 80%. The reason being is that a lot of chicks just want to party and drink with their friends sometimes. A chick in 808 told me the other night that we would leave together at 4:30 but when the time came she wanted to keep drinking with her ladyboy friends.
Your best bet is to find someone who is alone. Then I would say your chance is 100%. After wasting my time with that chick I took one home who was alone and had asked me to leave with her earlier. When the other girl saw she told the girl not to leave with me because I am a bad man. (A lot of chicks know me and come up and talk to me in the club so the chick assumed whatever.) Since then though the chick who did not want to come has been hitting me up on Line. The chick that did come is in the picture. She was really fun. 1000 baht LT as usual.
Pipe Layer99
03-07-16, 13:20
.... So what's a good time to go, for someone like me to Ibar or Insomnia or one of the otter discos / dance clubs? ....
What are my chances with the freelancers in general (statistically speaking) and any other clubs besides Ibar / Insomnia that I should hit?
.....You can check out I Bar / Insomnia about 11 pm. Since you are coming during low season, it may not be crowded at 11, but there are usually plenty of girls there by that time. Plus they continue to come in all night. If you do arrive at 11 and it's not to you liking, go have a drink or two at one of the nearby bars and scope out the ladies coming and going. You might find one walking by and get her number.
Some of the other clubs don't get going until after midnight. Especially now in low season.
You shouldn't have any problem finding something. Lots of ladies to choose from and new ones coming all the time.
Some of the other clubs don't get going until after midnight. Especially now in low season.
You shouldn't have any problem finding something. Lots of ladies to choose from and new ones coming all the time.Hi Pipe Layer99 , thanks so much for your suggestions dude! Will do as you say. Maybe I'll see you around if you are there in May.
And hey Mr. Ent, thanks for the input, with a case study to go with it, pics and all, like the true MBA that you are (if I remember right) .
I don't care what anyone else says but I think you're a straight shooter and a stand up guy. BTW, I did check out some of the YouTube videos about Ibar and Insomnia and yes, the techno and trance stuff with the strobe is a bit too much for me too. But some nights I am fine with it only cause in London and Paris they tend to have a lot of that crap and I've gotten used to it.
And yeah, I noticed on YouTube that Ibar rectangular shape is not too conducive for dancing. But, from what I saw 808 seems to be a better fit for me, certainly the music seems to be. Any other suggestions nearby so that I can walk up and back on the same night? Also, was thinking of getting the VIP Card at Insomnia. Ibar. It is worth it? Seems like if I go there 10 times it would more than pay for itself. Since I don't like to drink beer and only Bacardi and Diet Coke, with the discounts looks like I would break even in about 2-3 nights? If you are around, Ill buy a bottle of Bacardi a couple of nights. Since I have also enjoyed your posts on the DR, Brasil and Lima forums.
I plan to pretty much emerge only at night. Except for real massages daily and maybe a soapie on a few days, before some great Thai lunches. I don't like to drink before 11 pm because I like to keep going past 4 am and I just enjoy dancing like a crazy dude. LOL.
Caffe Hermano
03-07-16, 22:03
The ladies come back in sexy dinner dresses. So we feel the need to wine and dine them, sorry but we are gentlemen. Too late for food but you get all these street food which the gals love to munch. They buy a ton of stuff which I feel is too much for 2 gals to eat. Turned out they were planning for our breakfasts! Such nice kids. Service was superb once back in sack. Definitely recommended. I got to see their IDs at the reception and they are 25-26. Perfect for our fantasies. Stayed back till 8 am and invited us to bike rides later in the day. Good GFE. Look forward to meeting her again in June.Pics of the sugarbaby I got to enjoy on 2 nights.
Eric Swiss
03-08-16, 03:48
Hey guys, particularly Eric Swiss, Banana Boi, Pipe Layer, Sixty Two Echo etc...or anyone else. Re I Bar and Insomnia, I will be in Pattaya in about 7 weeks for about 2-3 weeks, also staying at the VT6 condo.
I have only been to Pattaya once before and that was nearly 15 years ago. In my mid 50's now. So what's a good time to go, for someone like me to Ibar or Insomnia or one of the otter discos / dance clubs? I dress pretty decent / hip and love to dance to all kinds of music like pop, hip hop, rap, rock etc. Even now, sometimes when I dance at night (I'm a night owl and prefer the 11 pm- 5 am hours) either in the USA / home or in Brazil or Peru etc I seem to attract attention from some (key word being some) of the young chicks, even the bartender chicks in the USA who see me often and seem to dig me.
So, I guess the question is, for someone with my kind of profile and Hispanic or Brazilian looking guy, what's the best time to go to say a place like I Bar or Insomnia or other dance clubs? What are my chances with the freelancers in general (statistically speaking) and any other clubs besides Ibar / Insomnia that I should hit?I would advocate a slightly different strategy than the others. I would recommend: 1) Go to a nice go-go bar at 11 pm. The reason is that 90% of the action at Insomnia / I-bar is eye contact in the first 3 seconds of walking past the girl, so your unconscious mind must be thinking about nothing but sex. Not how you are dressed, what drink you will order, where to go dancing: just sex. This is achieved by looking at naked bodies for 25 minutes (time for one drink).
2) Get into Insomnia a bit before midnight. Then your first drink will be half price. There isn't really that much dancing going on at that time, it's more like a bar with loud music. Make one round, if no action go down the back stairs to the I-Bar and do the same. Don't force the game, let the game come to you and happen by itself. I personally pay more attention to tables with 2-4 girls. They are definitely on the take. They go out together for mutual protection. Is this guy a creep? I'm leaving with him now, is that OK? There's always one girl who gives the OK to the other before she leaves with you.
3) Take girl to disco of her choice and dance. That warms her up and then when you bring her back to your hotel and bang her she will be very responsive.
So my strategic recommendation is not necessarily to pick up the freelancer in the place where you are dancing, but to do it the other way around. The reason is that you can judge her better in a quieter / brighter bar-type place. And multiple changes of venues make the night, as we know, more exciting, and by extension yourself too.
But it's just my personal recommendation, if you are here multiple nights you can mix and match your strategies.
I would advocate a slightly different strategy than the others. I would recommend: 1) Go to a nice go-go bar at 11 pm. The reason is that 90% of the action at Insomnia / I-bar is eye contact in the first 3 seconds of walking past the girl, so your unconscious mind must be thinking about nothing but sex. Not how you are dressed, what drink you will order, where to go dancing: just sex. This is achieved by looking at naked bodies for 25 minutes (time for one drink).
2) Get into Insomnia a bit before midnight. Then your first drink will be half price. There isn't really that much dancing going on at that time, it's more like a bar with loud music. Make one round, if no action go down the back stairs to the I-Bar and do the same. Don't force the game, let the game come to you and happen by itself. I personally pay more attention to tables with 2-4 girls. They are definitely on the take. They go out together for mutual protection. Is this guy a creep? I'm leaving with him now, is that OK? There's always one girl who gives the OK to the other before she leaves with you.
3) Take girl to disco of her choice and dance. That warms her up and then when you bring her back to your hotel and bang her she will be very responsive.
So my strategic recommendation is not necessarily to pick up the freelancer in the place where you are dancing, but to do it the other way around. The reason is that you can judge her better in a quieter / brighter bar-type place. And multiple changes of venues make the night, as we know, more exciting, and by extension yourself too.
But it's just my personal recommendation, if you are here multiple nights you can mix and match your strategies.Thanks, Eric Swiss! You the man! I like!
Good sensible suggestions and I hope to implement them successfully. Yeah, the girls in groups thing is a bummer. But, it is what it is.
Hopefully, on some of the nights I will find some solo girls. I think someone also mentioned checking out girls as they come in. So that's maybe also a worthwhile strategy.
BTW, any other discos (other than 808) within walking distance of I Bar that you recommend for someone like me?
Mr Enternational
03-08-16, 06:23
3) Take girl to disco of her choice and dance. That warms her up and then when you bring her back to your hotel and bang her she will be very responsive.
So my strategic recommendation is not necessarily to pick up the freelancer in the place where you are dancing, but to do it the other way around. The reason is that you can judge her better in a quieter / brighter bar-type place. And multiple changes of venues make the night, as we know, more exciting, and by extension yourself too.Eric it seems that in the midst of all of your strategizing you have forgotten that these are hookers we are talking about. By the time you finish with all that disco hopping and buying all of those drinks for yours, I have already fucked mine a couple of times.
I met a chick on Pattaya Tai last night when I was on the way to 808 with friends. I woke up and sent her a message and she is on the way over. No warming up required. As a matter of fact she wanted to take a shower before coming. I told her that she could take one when she gets here. She is here in the shower now. Later. I have some fucking to do.
P.S. The last thing you want to do is give a hooker a choice. That will almost always work out to your disadvantage.
Eric it seems that in the midst of all of your strategizing you have forgotten that these are hookers we are talking about.
P.S. The last thing you want to do is give a hooker a choice. That will almost always work out to your disadvantage.This is true for Thai women in general. You're the man, you call the shots. Man up.
Caffe Hermano
03-08-16, 09:01
Eric it seems that in the midst of all of your strategizing you have forgotten that these are hookers we are talking about. By the time you finish with all that disco hopping and buying all of those drinks for yours, I have already fucked mine a couple of times.
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P.S. The last thing you want to do is give a hooker a choice. That will almost always work out to your disadvantage.I am going to oppose this because I have met enough number of non-hardened WGs in this business. In fact, I always chose to go with the semi pro ones because I like to stay in charge. When you are with a WG who has not lost all her inhibitions yet, it always helps to start with some pleasantries. Plus if you are like me, I am for the entire experience and not just banging a vag. Don't get me wrong, when I am in that mode, I will choose a battle hardened WG (mainly because I have little choice at that point of time) and fuck the shit out of her. All I am saying is that you cannot paint all the WGs with a single palette.
You have to play according to the field and when you do that right, YMMV on the better side.
Thanks, Eric Swiss! You the man! I like!
Good sensible suggestions and I hope to implement them successfully. Yeah, the girls in groups thing is a bummer. But, it is what it is.
Hopefully, on some of the nights I will find some solo girls. I think someone also mentioned checking out girls as they come in. So that's maybe also a worthwhile strategy.
BTW, any other discos (other than 808) within walking distance of I Bar that you recommend for someone like me?I don't know. Maybe I am different. I would never take a girl I just met out on the town. Reminds me to much of back home.
If she is worthless in bed, you just spent more time and money for nothing.
I want to get my sex, pay them and we both are happy.
But to each his own. So long as you are having fun.
Blanquiceleste
03-08-16, 15:00
I have been to Pattaya four times before and had a great time always but I only usual areas for fun walking street LK metro second road beach road Soi 7 and 8 and soi 6 even fee times Jomtien but never been to dark side of Pattaya. I will be there again I'm may for 3 weeks and looking on internet quite fancy trying some of the bars on the darksixr of Pattaya but from the maps it looks like big distances between the bars so maybe hard to visit too many on each visit. Can anyone recommend best bars to visit currently for fun times with decent ladies at reasonable prices it seems these bats open and close and change names all the time. Would appreciate any help in finding best area with good bars within walking distance from each other on the dark side thanks for a why help guys.I have been there a couple of times. All I can say is do not waste your time. The bars are run down and mostly dregs hang out there chatting up with pensioners who like to start the day with a beer.
Mr Enternational
03-08-16, 16:26
I have been there a couple of times. All I can say is do not waste your time. The bars are run down and mostly dregs hang out there chatting up with pensioners who like to start the day with a beer.You seriously think that The Booze Lounge and places like it are run down and mostly dregs hang out there? Or are you just trying to keep him away?
I am new to the mongering scene and Pattaya so I kindly take all the advice I can. My questions are mostly about the freelancers on beach road and how to have the best experience I can.
How long is ST vs LT for these girls, is there a standard amount of hours or is this negotiable?(Same in gogo?
Price for ST vs LT? I have only read about 500-1200 baht but don't know how long that is considered.
Can I have sex multiple times during the session or only 1 shot?
Will they have condoms or do I need to have all of that ready?
My reception during nighttime seems kinda dead and is almost not looking up when I walk by so will that be a problem if he doesn't take ID from the girl? Should I stand there and insist on it?
Is a shower standard with the girl after you get to the hotel?
I can spot ladyboys pretty well I think but if I found out its a ladyboy in the room how should I handle that situation? Read that they can get a little bit aggressive. Should I ask on the street first? Seems a little bit awkward.
I have been there a couple of times. All I can say is do not waste your time. The bars are run down and mostly dregs hang out there chatting up with pensioners who like to start the day with a beer.I agree. Been there a few times and to some of the bars. Never saw reason to go back.
I am new to the mongering scene and Pattaya so I kindly take all the advice I can. My questions are mostly about the freelancers on beach road and how to have the best experience I can.
How long is ST vs LT for these girls, is there a standard amount of hours or is this negotiable?(Same in gogo?
Price for ST vs LT? I have only read about 500-1200 baht but don't know how long that is considered.
Can I have sex multiple times during the session or only 1 shot?
Will they have condoms or do I need to have all of that ready?
My reception during nighttime seems kinda dead and is almost not looking up when I walk by so will that be a problem if he doesn't take ID from the girl? Should I stand there and insist on it?
Is a shower standard with the girl after you get to the hotel?
I can spot ladyboys pretty well I think but if I found out its a ladyboy in the room how should I handle that situation? Read that they can get a little bit aggressive. Should I ask on the street first? Seems a little bit awkward.My advice would be to read some of the reports where your questions will be answered. If that doesn't work, spend the 20 bucks for a membership and pm some members for answers to your questions.
Caffe Hermano
03-09-16, 04:50
I am new to the mongering scene and Pattaya so I kindly take all the advice I can. My questions are mostly about the freelancers on beach road and how to have the best experience I can.
1. How long is ST vs LT for these girls, is there a standard amount of hours or is this negotiable?(Same in gogo?
2. Price for ST vs LT? I have only read about 500-1200 baht but don't know how long that is considered.
3. Can I have sex multiple times during the session or only 1 shot?
4. Will they have condoms or do I need to have all of that ready?
5. My reception during nighttime seems kinda dead and is almost not looking up when I walk by so will that be a problem if he doesn't take ID from the girl? Should I stand there and insist on it?
6. Is a shower standard with the girl after you get to the hotel?
7. I can spot ladyboys pretty well I think but if I found out its a ladyboy in the room how should I handle that situation? Read that they can get a little bit aggressive. Should I ask on the street first? Seems a little bit awkward.My answers will be:
1. Negotiable highly, ST 1 HR vs LT 5-6 hrs.
2. 500-1200 sounds like a lot of negotiating, generally you will get 800-2000.
3. Multiple times allowed in LT only though I rarely hear anyone going above 3.
4. Better to have your own, most of them do have.
5. Reception will always ask for ID if they have a reputation to keep. Hang around the lobby at night to see how this particular hotel deals with "visitors". Insist if you like to play safe, WGs always carry their ID.
6. You are in charge since you are paying. Most gals are fine with just a little wash and not a full blown shower.
7. There is some fun in asking WGs if they are LBs. They will grab your hand and put it between their legs to prove beyond doubt. I love to cop that feel If it feels awkward, try practicing with random WGs. After 10 awkward encounters, you might start loving it.
Crocodilexp
03-09-16, 07:02
How long is ST vs LT for these girls, is there a standard amount of hours or is this negotiable?(Same in gogo?
ST is normally 1 shot (BBBJ + FS), with associate shower and a bit of play before and after, depending on the girl and your chemistry. In Pattaya, it should generally be more relaxed and much more friendly than in other typical quickie-one-shot setups elsewhere. For me, this takes anywhere from 30 min to 2 h, though the latter is becoming less common.
LT is the entire night, with two shots in the evening an one in the morning, if you can manage. The girl should stay until you wake up and hang out for that last shot. Some try to leave early (at some ungodly morning hour), and their compensation should be cut accordingly (though, be prepared for an argument).
Price for ST vs LT? I have only read about 500-1200 baht but don't know how long that is considered.
On Beach Road, ST is 500-1000 baht, with going rate being about 700. These days, I doubt many there would go for LT at all, but I think a fair rate would be 1500, though if it really is late, 1000 might be OK.
Can I have sex multiple times during the session or only 1 shot?
For ST, standard is one shot. You're free to try to negotiate whatever you like, such as specific amount of time, second shot or non-standard sex acts, but it won't happen if the girls is unwilling. Girls are free agents, not controlled by a pimp, so they can agree to whatever they're comfortable with, and spend as much time with you as they like, up to an including marrying you.
Will they have condoms or do I need to have all of that ready?
Most likely they will, but better have your own condoms and lube / KY to avoid any surprises.
My reception during nighttime seems kinda dead and is almost not looking up when I walk by so will that be a problem if he doesn't take ID from the girl? Should I stand there and insist on it?
Yes, ask the reception to take the ID, and they will do so, even at the cheapest of the hotels.
Is a shower standard with the girl after you get to the hotel?
The girls always take a shower, before and after sex, and expect you to do so yourself too. Whether you'll take a shower together is up to you to ask. Some are OK with it, others are not. Sometimes they prefer to shower alone for whatever reason (too shy / taking a big dump / messaging a friend).
if I found out its a ladyboy in the room how should I handle that situation? Read that they can get a little bit aggressive. Should I ask on the street first?
Indeed, if you're unsure, always ask first. It's not the politest thing in the world, but they're hookers, I'm sure they've been asked many times before.
If you discover any deal-breaker in the room before the session begins (possibly after the shower, but before you had BJ or sex), you can send a girl back with a token goodwill payment (maybe 100-200 baht for Beach Road girls). Try to be polite about this (make up some mild excuse, even if it's obvious bullshit), and never argue with your pants down. It's always a bit of a delicate act, and yes, they could potentially get aggressive, but only if you're rude about it or they feel they should push you around.
After you get a BJ or sex starts, you're pretty much obliged to pay the full agreed amount.
Uncle Volodya
03-09-16, 08:18
I am more of freelancer guy and in Latin American countries I stay focused on the Latin Cupid girls, even though I am not Latin American and don't speak Spanish either! LOL. I generally go to Latin Countries with about 25-50 contacts that I develop ahead of time via Latin Cupid! LOL. And usually when I meet these contacts at a dance club they seem to also find me semi attractive and I score 95 % of time, and without ever talking about money ahead of time.
So, for someone like me, what do you recommend as a strategy for Pattaya? Thanks guys. You seem to very successful with your time in Pattaya, which is why I ask.
It sounds like you will fit right in at Ibar / Insomnia. Best to get there around 1 Am or so. It's definitely worth it to get a bottle if you don't drink beer. Don't be shy about approaching girls you like and inviting them to have a drink. 90% of them are there to pickup a guy for the night.
Be nice, respectful, polite and smile. If things aren't going your way just stick with it. They always seem to turn around in this town.
Happy hunting!
Uncle-V.
Mr Enternational
03-09-16, 08:23
Some try to leave early (at some ungodly morning hour), and their compensation should be cut accordingly (though, be prepared for an argument)...
After you get a BJ or sex starts, you're pretty much obliged to pay the full agreed amount.Could be taken as a contradiction.
Just did a google maps search for Kinaree Place. Maps noted that Kinaree is closed permanently. Is that true?
Eric Swiss
03-09-16, 10:05
I'll give I-bar a try not sure really sure about getting a girl at the clubs based on my good looks and charm. I'm not old but not fit these days. Really need to get back into running and get fit again. Shooting to do that in spring / summer. I might look to coming back to SE Asia in either May or July and then have a better shot. Fortunately, I am able to travel frequently.
You should try the Paleo diet, it's a lot less work than getting back into running.
Christian G
03-09-16, 10:36
Just did a google maps search for Kinaree Place. Maps noted that Kinaree is closed permanently. Is that true?From their FB page seems open.
Crocodilexp
03-09-16, 15:03
Could be taken as a contradiction.To clarify, for the ST, I think you have to to pay the full agreed amount once bed activities start (BJ or FS), but up to that point, if you want to cancel for whatever reason (including changing your mind), a token payment is enough.
LT is a whole different matter. If she clearly doesn't deliver on the LT (which for me means 2 evening + 1 morning shots, unless I feel otherwise), she's due a reduced fee, normally a ST going rate (of not specified in advance). However, at that point if she's ready to provide the service, but the punter changes his mind, I think the full LT fee is only fair. It's a bit tricky.
Personally, I rarely settle on LT outright, since chemistry is impossible to predict, and I don't want to sleep next to someone who doesn't want to be there. However, if after an ST we're both happy, occasionally I ask the girl whether she minds staying (for a bit of extra money, of course). No flakes that way (so far).
Blanquiceleste
03-09-16, 15:08
You seriously think that The Booze Lounge and places like it are run down and mostly dregs hang out there? Or are you just trying to keep him away?Ha ha ha. Mr E if you have read some of my FR's you might notice that I have no such intention. What I stated is purely my opinion based on my tastes and preferences in women. The places I have visited are LE Rouge, The Venue, Kik, Black Sheep, The Booze Lounge, Pacha & Thirsty Beaver. Did not see a reason to hang around or visit again. And I will stick to that opinion till I go back and find a reason to change it. Maybe you have some information that might change my mind? 5555.
Happy mongering!
Mr Enternational
03-09-16, 17:05
What I stated is purely my opinion based on my tastes and preferences in women. The places I have visited are LE Rouge, The Venue, Kik, Black Sheep, The Booze Lounge, Pacha & Thirsty Beaver. Did not see a reason to hang around or visit again. And I will stick to that opinion till I go back and find a reason to change it. Maybe you have some information that might change my mind?Nahh. I don't know shit. I was just talking. I have been to the Booze Lounge with some guys who live over that way. They all had a girl next to them. I really didn't even want one. Not really my type and I'm probably the least picky guy in Pattaya. I have seen Pacha from outside. The others I know nothing about.
I'm not a bar/gogo guy anyway. I used to be big on the discos, but these days I pretty much meet regular chicks or paid chicks out in the daytime and get them to come over and stay the night.
Just did a google maps search for Kinaree Place. Maps noted that Kinaree is closed permanently. Is that true?Was open as of last Satutday. I went there for their 6 year anniversary party. Good time.
Blanquiceleste
03-10-16, 01:34
I'm not a bar/gogo guy anyway. I used to be big on the discos, but these days I pretty much meet regular chicks or paid chicks out in the daytime and get them to come over and stay the night.Yeah, I read your about your exploits and I think this is the right way forward. Someone pointed out that the scene as it exists today won't last long. Maybe true!
Eric Swiss
03-10-16, 07:19
I did Skyfall, Insomnia, the I-Bar, and ended up at Sensations.
Skyfall was a bit disappointing, there was a drunk girl seating next to me who kept pressuring me to pick a girl. I had to escalate my refusals more and more forcefully to get her to shut up, and that destroyed my mojo.
At Sensations, there was a girl dancing who was really slutty. Her number was 84, and on the bill for her lady drink it printed as Sontang, but she said her name was Wonsen. Go figure. I bar-fined her for 1,000 Baht and we agreed on 2000 short time. I took her to Oasis. Not a newbie, this one, she'd been there innumerable times.
Her body was so-so. She had a weird tattoo on her tummy. I don't know why I overlooked it in the go-go bar while she was dancing. But that wasn't why I had brought her in. I brought her in because she oozed sex. I knew I was pretty drunk and would last a long time, so I wanted one I could bang every which way. And that I did. She's clearly seen miles of cock in her life and she just can't get enough of the stuff.
She's pretty passive / submissive, so any attempt to put her on top of me was blocked. She wanted it missionary, doggy, and any angle in between. You know the old joke: where do women's legs look the best? Behind their ears. That was her position for half the night. Maybe half her waking hours, to be honest. She was really into it. In the end the lack of clock-watching and her willingness to get pounded hard got the better of me, and she earned her money.
Would I recommend? No, her body wasn't good enough. But I recommend banging every once in a while an authentic slutt just for the heck of it.
Steppenwolf11
03-10-16, 09:00
To clarify, for the ST, I think you have to to pay the full agreed amount once bed activities start (BJ or FS), but up to that point, if you want to cancel for whatever reason (including changing your mind), a token payment is enough.
LT is a whole different matter. If she clearly doesn't deliver on the LT (which for me means 2 evening + 1 morning shots, unless I feel otherwise), she's due a reduced fee, normally a ST going rate (of not specified in advance). However, at that point if she's ready to provide the service, but the punter changes his mind, I think the full LT fee is only fair. It's a bit tricky.
Personally, I rarely settle on LT outright, since chemistry is impossible to predict, and I don't want to sleep next to someone who doesn't want to be there. However, if after an ST we're both happy, occasionally I ask the girl whether she minds staying (for a bit of extra money, of course). No flakes that way (so far).I have just been to Pattaya a few days and all girls were really money oriented. Shorttime was just one pop. Then the girl immediatly goes for the shower and vanishes. I tried several times to extend her stay (without paying extra) but no chance. Everytime they say Shorttime is 2 hours when negotiating but afterwards they always say 2 hours but only 1 time. Longtime now was totally different. I would say most girls wanted to reduce sex somehow. Starting with watching TV when entering the room, wanting to go to sleep after one pop and if nothing helps they want to switch to shorttime (one opted for this option right from the start). Maybe I should have taken ugly girls instead.
Report from last month visit. Decided to try massage and proceeded to dream girl. Was given a warm welcome and I took a two HR package. Nikki was assigned. She is a good looking girl from Isan (as per her version). Her photo is not available in their website. Was given a nice scrub down (joint). Proceeded for oil massage. She is OK with massage, lot of teasing and slipping finger in A. Then a BJ with finger stroking allover and inside A. Fantastic experience.
Next day again ventured for similar experience and was assigned the same girl. Same experience.
Mr Enternational
03-10-16, 14:16
A couple of weeks ago I met the girl of my dreams at my daytime hangout spot. She immediately told me that she was a bad girl. I asked her what that meant and she said that she goes with men for money. I acted shocked and asked her how much it usually costs. She said 1000. That same night she stayed over.
I rarely do hookers more than once, but like I said she is the girl of my dreams. Last night I went to get her and she stayed over again for 1000. She just sent me a message saying she had a good time last night and she feels comfortable being with me. I took this as an opportunity and said yeah, but you cost too much for me. Now she says to only give her 800 when she comes to stay. Works for me.
Now she just offered to buy me dinner. Once again it's on!
Hi guys,
Even if I've been in Thailand quite often, I'll stay in Pattaya my first time in two weeks for a couple of days.
What are your recommendations about good clubs in Pattaya?
I regularly go to the Mixx in BKK. Is the Mixx in Pattaya same / better / worse?
Thank you for your thoughts!
Best regards,
Micha
Sixty Two Echo
03-10-16, 19:05
Yep, finally caught what ever is going around. Knocked me down for a couple of days. But I'm back. Typical day. Walked the beach (not many girls out today), had oil massage. I noticed that the cops were patrolling the Beach Walk this evening and when they did, the girls simply crossed the street. I asked a couple of girls what was going on and I was told there was a problem with a ladyboy and his client. So the cops are patrolling and it's driving the girls across the street. For now. When I asked if the police were going to patrol tomorrow, the girls didn't know. Guess we will wait and see. So I picked up a cutie off the Beach Walk in spite of the police activities. 1000 baht and we were on our way. After, dropped her at the Beach Walk and walk up and down Walking Street. Not feeling it. So I headed to the room and called it a night. Oh yeah, looks like a celebrity went into IBar. Didn't see and wasn't interested enough to ask.
Crocodilexp
03-10-16, 21:27
Everytime they say Shorttime is 2 hours when negotiating but afterwards they always say 2 hours but only 1 time.
Hookers are not known for keeping promises.
The ONLY thing you can be 100% sure they'll comply with is the number of pops (and anal, if you're into that), so negotiate that explicitly.
Everything else you agree on can be botched if she feels like it, and is thus virtually useless. BBBJ? Ten seconds. CIM? Takes one moment to avoid it. DATY? She squirms. Amount of time? She might stay if you push, but with the sour attitude you'd wish she didn't.
Yes, service standards in Thailand have gone down over the years, and it's impossible to be entirely sure about anything. However, you can take measures. In Pattaya, what works for me is to ask for a minor favor before getting to the room.
It can be as simple as asking to take a few photos of the girl (alone, fully clothed, in a public place, they all have tons of such photos on Facebook, all public, so it's absolutely no invasion of privacy). If she objects or complies with a poor attitude, dump her, she is unlikely to be any better in the room.
Another one (if she isn't wearing high heels), is to come up with a pretext to walk together a bit, instead of immediately hopping on the nearest songteaw or motobike. If she is unwilling to walk for 10-15 min, she'll be no better later on.
Not saying it's you, but many Western guys are way too soft, and try to please the hooker. They are well tuned to sense weakness. I always treat them with respect, but am also ready to call off the deal at any early sign of poor attitude (though after sex starts, this is no longer an option).
Hookers are not known for keeping promises.
The ONLY thing you can be 100% sure they'll comply with is the number of pops (and anal, if you're into that), so negotiate that explicitly.
Everything else you agree on can be botched if she feels like it, and is thus virtually useless. BBBJ? Ten seconds. CIM? Takes one moment to avoid it. DATY? She squirms. Amount of time? She might stay if you push, but with the sour attitude you'd wish she didn't.
Yes, service standards in Thailand have gone down over the years, and it's impossible to be entirely sure about anything. However, you can take measures. In Pattaya, what works for me is to ask for a minor favor before getting to the room.
It can be as simple as asking to take a few photos of the girl (alone, fully clothed, in a public place, they all have tons of such photos on Facebook, all public, so it's absolutely no invasion of privacy). If she objects or complies with a poor attitude, dump her, she is unlikely to be any better in the room.
Another one (if she isn't wearing high heels), is to come up with a pretext to walk together a bit, instead of immediately hopping on the nearest songteaw or motobike. If she is unwilling to walk for 10-15 min, she'll be no better later on.
Not saying it's you, but many Western guys are way too soft, and try to please the hooker. They are well tuned to sense weakness. I always treat them with respect, but am also ready to call off the deal at any early sign of poor attitude (though after sex starts, this is no longer an option).I don't like Pattaya all that much and rarely go there anymore, so I also don't contribute to this thread very often. But I fully agree with your observations and sentiment regarding P4 P in general and specifically in Thailand regardless whether it is Pattaya, Bangkok or anywhere else.
Hookers are not known for keeping promises.
The ONLY thing you can be 100% sure they'll comply with is the number of pops (and anal, if you're into that), so negotiate that explicitly.
Everything else you agree on can be botched if she feels like it, and is thus virtually useless. BBBJ? Ten seconds. CIM? Takes one moment to avoid it. DATY? She squirms. Amount of time? She might stay if you push, but with the sour attitude you'd wish she didn't.
Yes, service standards in Thailand have gone down over the years, and it's impossible to be entirely sure about anything. However, you can take measures. In Pattaya, what works for me is to ask for a minor favor before getting to the room..The first sentence is sadly true as much as I would like to say the opposite. Your testing process is interesting w / the photo thing etc but I guess you're talking about FLs because if you pull from a gogo bar you will lose your BF money if you cut your date short. Same w / a beer bar girl, once you BF you are committed financially.
This is also very very true, "They are well tuned to sense weakness. " They sure can and some will screw you if they think you'll tolerate it. Pattaya is not a fair and level playing field when striving for the top pussy. I was played more than a few times my last trip and when you return a bargirl to her bar it's not likely you'll get your BF money back. It's a win win for the bargirl, for the bar, and a huge loss for the punter.
Pursuing the top gogo dancers is a very skilled area for mongers to do well in. Of course the rewards are incredible when your game plan works but 25% of the time it doesn't work. This coming from a 60+ year old guy in decent shape and looks. There are strategies that work well but you can't be drinking too much otherwise you'll make a bad decision. Now if you're a young Asian guy Pattaya is your easy playground.
What are the dates for the official Songkran festival in Pattaya? Will beach road be closed off for a major block party?
Cheers,
Mal
Xplorer007
03-11-16, 09:53
Thanks for your great reports man. How many days left until you leave?
Christian G
03-11-16, 10:55
The ONLY thing you can be 100% sure they'll comply with is the number of pops (and anal, if you're into that), so negotiate that explicitly. Sure? I'm anal addicted LOL and I always ask in advance for this service. In the last 2 years I found many freelancers that agree about it upfront and then in the room refuse it. So give them few baht for mototaxi and send them on their way.
Untill 2012/2013 almost all the girls who agreed to do anal upfront, did it in the room without any problem.
Yes, service standards in Thailand have gone down over the years, and it's impossible to be entirely sure about anything. I agree with this!
LittleBigMan
03-11-16, 15:19
What are the dates for the official Songkran festival in Pattaya? Will beach road be closed off for a major block party?
Cheers,
MalEvery year the official biggest dates are April 18,19,20, The 20th is usually in Ban Saray toward Sattihip. These dates the party stretches throughout Pattaya each day in different areas. Since these dates are Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday I believe Beach Road, the major Soi 6,7,8, etc, with all the Beer Bars all will be throwing water starting the 15th, which is a Friday. The 19th is the biggest day where the traffic on Sukhumvit is at a standstill!
Sixty Two Echo
03-11-16, 17:19
Tried to stay in bed as long as possible to adjust to Pattaya's night life. Things don't really kick off until 1 am. So I managed to stay in bed most of today and ventured out about 6:30 pm. Pulled up to Beach Road, parked, crossed the street and met a 28 year old with long straight black hair, slim long legs and a big smile. I had seen her a couple of nights before but I didn't manage to talk to her. I priced her and she said 800 baht. Now hours earlier I told myself I would not accept their first price and I would barter. Nope, fail, at 800 baht, those legs, that hair and that smile, I swallowed the bait. Talked shop first to iron out the details. And off we went. My bike didn't even have a chance to cool off. Not as good as the last four girls I had, but good enough. Cleaned up, dropped her at the Beach Walk and came back to the room to rest for tonight. Welcome to Pattaya!
Mr Enternational
03-11-16, 19:43
Now she just offered to buy me dinner. Once again it's on!The chick said we would meet at Pizza Company. She told me to park in the Royal Garden lot. I said fuck that I would park right out front. I hit up a buddy and told him I was on the way to Pizza Company and as luck would have it, him and another buddy were at the drink van in front. I stopped by and had a drink with them while I was waiting for my girl. My girl showed up and I was only half finished with my drink. I told her to go check on my bike for me but she refused.
I finished my drink and we walked over to Pizza Company. Where in the fuck is my bike? Don't tell me they towed a player's ride. The motorbike taxi guy said yep they definitely towed it, and had pictures in his phone to prove it. I told my girl it was her fault because she had not gone to check on it when I asked. She said it was my fault because I didn't park in Royal Garden's lot like she had told me.
The motorbike taxi guy said it had been a while since they had taken it, way before my girl even showed up. He said they would take me over to the police station to pay then to the impound lot on Kopai Soi 9 to pick it up for 200 baht. He said I would have to pay the police a 400 baht fine and pay 200 baht to the impound yard.
We went in Pizza Company and had our meal. When I finished my girl told me to go ahead outside and get the motorbike taxi and start the process then pick her up back at her place off Kopai 4.
Long story short: My dumb ass ended up spending 800 baht trying to save 20 baht.
Fun Filled
03-11-16, 20:06
Mixx in Pattaya and in BKK are not same. Better or worse depend on your taste and Style. In Pattaya you can go inside the club wearing flip flops and shorts there is no profiling or dress code. In Mixx BKK you cannot go inside wearing flip flops or shorts. I personally find Mixx BKK better cause the class of girls there is better and they are better dressed up. More over chances of meeting regular girls who are not professionals or who are part timer is high in BKK. As I said there are lot of people who like Pattaya better then BKK, so its totally depend of your taste, class and budget. The rates of girls are high in BKK as compared to Pattaya.
Will be waiting to hear you experience.
Hi guys,
Even if I've been in Thailand quite often, I'll stay in Pattaya my first time in two weeks for a couple of days.
What are your recommendations about good clubs in Pattaya?
I regularly go to the Mixx in BKK. Is the Mixx in Pattaya same / better / worse?
Thank you for your thoughts!
Best regards,
Micha
The chick said we would meet at Pizza Company. She told me to park in the Royal Garden lot. I said fuck that I would park right out front. I hit up a buddy and told him I was on the way to Pizza Company and as luck would have it, him and another buddy were at the drink van in front. I stopped by and had a drink with them while I was waiting for my girl. My girl showed up and I was only half finished with my drink. I told her to go check on my bike for me but she refused.
I finished my drink and we walked over to Pizza Company. Where in the fuck is my bike? Don't tell me they towed a player's ride. The motorbike taxi guy said yep they definitely towed it, and had pictures in his phone to prove it. I told my girl it was her fault because she had not gone to check on it when I asked. She said it was my fault because I didn't park in Royal Garden's lot like she had told me.
The motorbike taxi guy said it had been a while since they had taken it, way before my girl even showed up. He said they would take me over to the police station to pay then to the impound lot on Kopai Soi 9 to pick it up for 200 baht. He said I would have to pay the police a 400 baht fine and pay 200 baht to the impound yard.
We went in Pizza Company and had our meal. When I finished my girl told me to go ahead outside and get the motorbike taxi and start the process then pick her up back at her place off Kopai 4.
Long story short: My dumb ass ended up spending 800 baht trying to save 20 baht.IDK, but I think she's a good person, FWIW. I'm sure she'll make it up to you and the 800 Baht maybe something she'll make up too? Take it easy and relax man. In the overall scheme of things, it's not a biggie. Although I agree with you that you didn't quite work the math on the risk / reward ratio. At 20 vs 800, you essentially took the risk that your bike would not be towed at 40-1 odds! And, the cops probably are waiting for the next guy to do that. I doubt too many Thais in Pattaya at that location would park a bike where you did. So the cops also probably knew whose bike (in terms of Thai vs non Thai) that they were looking at.
You'll forget about it pretty much in 2 weeks, except probably when you go to the Pizza Company again! Trying laughing at yourself in your mind. I find that sometimes that has therapeutic value for me when I screw up! .
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