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Uncle Volodya
04-25-16, 19:07
Of course the key story was BS, it's something so much used that the girls play it with newcomers only. There is no woman in Thailand that wouldn't patiently wait while her friend or roommate is making quick 2 or 3 thousands.
The fact that she didn't ask for anything doesn't mean much first of all she had already summed a barfine that count toward her set target for salary, and then she knows that some foreigners would have paid something anyway. so she kept dragging it for a while to see what would came out. She would have been ok even doing the deed and get paid, but for whatever reason she didn't really wanted.Yes, I had the same thought initially. This strategy certainly makes sense, form a rational choice framework if, a lot of the the time, the punter just pays up to avoid trouble.
But from the context of his story, the prior relationship, her texting him to ask to come back, I think her story holds water (as dumb as that story is, it is dumb enough to be true).
Unless, of course, she is playing the diabolical long game and setting him up for some kind of big fall.
FL Hawk! watch out for your kidneys, man!.
555
She was with the guy. But I had been friends with the mamasan for a year now, and I paid the BF first, so I won the girl. The dude who may have been planning to BF her may have ended up the lucky one.Dangerous game your playing, taking hot girls right out from under a drunk guy in a bar who just spent his hard earned money on the girl. And if he had friends who were as drunk. In the real world you'd get your ass beat 9 times out of 10, last time I checked Thailand was the real world. You lucked out this time.
Show of hands, how many guys here would have issues with someone barfining the girl they were sitting next too in a club?
Mr Enternational
04-25-16, 20:05
But from the context of his story, the prior relationship, her texting him to ask to come back, I think her story holds water (as dumb as that story is, it is dumb enough to be true).Actually it is not dumb at all. I have been through many a key story or having to run and help a friend or relative story and for the most part I find them to be legit. I go the FL route so there is no money to be gained from a paid bar fine. The woman never asks for money when leaving. And I am still friends with some to this day. Hell, I have even gone with a girl to take the key before!
9 times out of 10 the key in question is an electronic key card. I have one for my building. If I want an extra or if I lose that one then I have to pay 300 baht. This is why there is only 1 key shared among friends who live in the same room. It is not a conspiracy to do a runner.
Mr Enternational
04-25-16, 20:14
Show of hands, how many guys here would have issues with someone barfining the girl they were sitting next too in a club?Money talks and bullshit walks. You are not there to court the girl. If you want her to go with you then pay the bar fine and sit in there next to her all you want. If you have not paid the bar fine then you have no claim to the girl. And as we say in the hood, you don't check the pimp you check the ho. If you meant anything to her then she wouldn't run off to another guy like that. You can't get angry because I pulled up in a shiny new car and your girl decides to come with me. You can only get mad at her or yourself.
Show of hands, how many guys here would have issues with someone barfining the girl they were sitting next too in a club?IMO in this game the race goes to the swift and decisive. If someone else was buying her drinks he was simply paying for her company during that time. Business is business after all and the club mamasan took the bird in the hand. Lesson learned the hard way if there are hard feelings. Tomorrow is another day.
SL.
Old New Guy
04-25-16, 23:02
Dangerous game your playing, taking hot girls right out from under a drunk guy in a bar who just spent his hard earned money on the girl. And if he had friends who were as drunk. In the real world you'd get your ass beat 9 times out of 10, last time I checked Thailand was the real world. You lucked out this time.
You're right in saying that fights between foreigners are easy in Thailand. I've been dangerously close to some which I didn't provoked, and there wasn't even a woman involved, except on one occasion.
But you can't tell who will get his ass beaten. I've seen surprises in street and bar fights.
Banana Boi
04-25-16, 23:04
Thanks for another report, FL. Set price is 1000 baht for 30+ minutes and when I say '+' that could mean an hour depending on the girl. It's why room waits can be long. CIM, anal, etc. Is included in the 1000 baht, again ymmv on what the girl offers. Service at Kinnaree is generally very high and nice to see even a brand new girl providing ok service. Taxi to / from Central Festival should run 200 baht or less. Agree the Saturday BBQ is very good but many guys on Saturdays.
Banana Boi
04-25-16, 23:08
Dangerous game your playing, taking hot girls right out from under a drunk guy in a bar who just spent his hard earned money on the girl. And if he had friends who were as drunk. In the real world you'd get your ass beat 9 times out of 10, last time I checked Thailand was the real world. You lucked out this time.
Show of hands, how many guys here would have issues with someone barfining the girl they were sitting next too in a club?You would fight a guy over a hooker? Just grab her Line and meet up with her another night.
If it's someone hot she knows within minutes that I plan on barfining her. Doesn't mean I won't stick around with her in the club another 30-60 minutes having a few drinks so she makes a bit more cash and I keep looking for other girls I can take the following night.
Old New Guy
04-25-16, 23:20
I was a bit upset, but I am thinking that her leaving might be good, for even if she stole 1000 Baht from me, if I stayed with her I might have ended up spending over 2000 on drinks, and possibly she could have talked me in to ST as well! Some of you may be thinking I should have called the bouncers over to get my money back, but I don't want to cause any issues. 1000 Baht is nothing to me, and if she really needs it that bad, whatever.
I like your reports and good attitude but I think you made a mistake in letting someone take your money with a laugh on her face. And the reason is that it has helped this girl believe she can get away with that trick every time, because foreigners are stupid.
If you are in the right there is nothing wrong calling the mamasan over a problem. Once a friend of mine picked up a very stupid girl in a go-go. Already while walking to our car she put on a shitty face and acted unfriendly. Fortunately I was able to make my friend realize the situation, so we walked her back to club. I was thinking some discussion would have ensued, but he got the barfine money back on a tray in 30 seconds.
IMO in this game the race goes to the swift and decisive. If someone else was buying her drinks he was simply paying for her company during that time. Business is business after all and the club mamasan took the bird in the hand. Lesson learned the hard way if there are hard feelings. Tomorrow is another day.
SL.Have to disagree. A ladydrink is as you put it 'paying for her company during that time'. Its the interview process. If I'm paying for her time and someone tries to barfine the girl while I'm paying for her time, then the gloves are off. You might have barfined her but you won't be doing much fucking with a broken nose. But those are the risks involved with poaching another man's target.
p.s. as to your 'put up or shut up' headline, curious what you would do if a pissed off guy came up to you in a club after you pulled this stunt? would you put up or shut up?
You would fight a guy over a hooker? Me personally? No, way too many fish in the sea. My point is there are guys out there itching for a fight, bumping into them and knocking over a beer is enough to get them going. Barfining a girl out from under them is another thing entirely. This isn't the FKK scene where everyone plays nice.
Have to disagree. A ladydrink is as you put it 'paying for her company during that time'. Its the interview process.What if someone bar fined her yesterday for today, and she is merely working the bar waiting for him to arrive? It happens, and there is always tomorrow.
SL.
What if someone bar fined her yesterday for today, and she is merely working the bar waiting for him to arrive? It happens, and there is always tomorrow.
SL.Its possible but the situation still stands, your asking for a fight in some circumstances. When the guy gets in your face, tell him that 'there's always tomorrow' as he starts pounding in your face as his drunk buddies egg him on. I understand Pattaya is pretty much open season, I can walk up to any girl anywhere and ask if she'd like to come to my hotel, even if she's sitting with a guy having lunch. If she's not in a hotel room, she's open season.
Show of hands, how many guys here would have issues with someone barfining the girl they were sitting next too in a club?Oh no, I definitely would not play that shit! If I'm sitting there talking to a girl and I know I want to take her, I don't give a shit who paid the bar fine first. It's not where you start. It's where you end up. And possession is nine tenths of the law motherfucker! What I would do is go ahead and pay the bar fine my own damn self, then dare the other bastard to make a move. She's with me, and she's leaving with me! What you about to do about it hommes? What you need mamasan? Because what you need I got!
I would never engage in this type of thing (booty snatching), and its never happened to me. We're not in "the hood", and it's just plain ungentlemanly. But, I'm not about to sit there and get "chumped" either. You can bet that! So if somebody thinks they're about to start fucking with me that way, then they've got another think coming! I tend to mind my own business and don't like drama. But let somebody start fucking with me and / or the girl I'm with and see what happens. They're going to wish they were back in the hood!
Kumbu!
Welcome back old friend.Great to be remembered, Uncle V, and even more so by a fine gentleman such as yourself. And I've been following your exploits, with great pleasure I might add.
But as nice a feeling as it is to be remembered, it pales in comparison to knowing that I may be back plying my trade in good old LOS soon.
Dangerous game your playing, taking hot girls right out from under a drunk guy in a bar who just spent his hard earned money on the girl. And if he had friends who were as drunk. In the real world you'd get your ass beat 9 times out of 10, last time I checked Thailand was the real world. You lucked out this time.
Show of hands, how many guys here would have issues with someone barfining the girl they were sitting next too in a club? This was mamasan's decision (to take the girl from some other customer and hand her over to FL Hawk), and so there is a certain amount of safety that comes with that situation. It is not in the club's interest to have such fights break out. It's bad for business, it gives them a bad name, and it shows they are not running their business in an honorable way. Nor is it in their interest to leave long-term customers without their girl of choice. It makes good business sense to satisfy their loyal customers.
I think the girl, the mamasan and the bouncers all play a role in reducing the chances of such fights. I was once in a situation where I had bought a girl two LDs and the girl then tells me that the mamasan was forcing her to go with this dude who just walked in. He was an old customer, and so there was loyalty to him. I was none too happy, but nor was the girl. She pretend-cried for me a little, which silly as it seems, made me feel better. She also gave me her number and told me we could hook up the next day (I never called her though). She then left, and I gave the other dude the most almighty skunk-eye, but he did not even know what was happening. Why should he? Mamasan then walked over to me with two of her bouncers nearby and explained the situation. She offered me a whole plethora of other girls, none of whom met my taste. She then comped me the LDs. That made everything fine, in my book. All I had lost was 10 minutes of my time. Moreover, I was good with the girl and the mamasan because I had not made waves.
The next night I went in there and I got the super-star treatment. This was at the Pattaya Baccara, around 5 years ago.
This was mamasan's decision (to take the girl from some other customer and hand her over to FL Hawk), and so there is a certain amount of safety that comes with that situation. It is not in the club's interest to have such fights break out. It's bad for business, it gives them a bad name, and it shows they are not running their business in an honorable way. Nor is it in their interest to leave long-term customers without their girl of choice. It makes good business sense to satisfy their loyal customers.The scenario you describe is different from one where some arrogant asshole thinks he can just swoop in and take away somebody else's prize. It was 100% at the instigation of mamasan who explained to you what was going down, and who was magnanimous in going out of her way to make you whole. As you said, the guy didn't even know what was happening. A different situation calling for a different reaction. No, I wouldn't necessarily be happy about it, but not something to be ready to get into another monger's grill about either. In this case, it would be you against "the establishment". And "you" would lose.
Fast Eddie 48
04-26-16, 07:29
I believe your advice is solid. Too late now Fon, but I may be back a week from Saturday and I will try to contact her again and set up something. But I am on the hook for 3000 with her for ST and I really doubt the experience will be great. But I may have helped in our Line texting, and if she re-engages me, things might go acceptably well.
I think I will be ok with Pam now. Not sure why I keep being drawn back to I-Bar looking for her. She is cute with that killer smile, but I really don't want to ST her again. She is fun and I lost my Disco virginity to her, so some of this may be natural. But don't worry. Bell overshadows Pam, and I have a real Thai sweetheart I am going to visit tomorrow for a week. Just got to survive tonight.To FL.
Why repeat there are so many girl here I sample 5 girls in 4 night here I never repeat not like you even have a good experience with the girl and you over paid also.
Fast eddie 48.
Christian G
04-26-16, 09:33
Thanks for another report, FL. Set price is 1000 baht for 30+ minutes and when I say '+' that could mean an hour depending on the girl. It's why room waits can be long. CIM, anal, etc. Is included in the 1000 baht, again ymmv on what the girl offers. Service at Kinnaree is generally very high and nice to see even a brand new girl providing ok service. It is very difficult that anal is included in the 1000 baht! I always ask in advance if girl can do anal, and in the last 4 years all girls in Kinnaree ask me a tip for anal sex. CIM yes, is included but anal no!
Gannaton48
04-26-16, 09:51
I watch many videos on Youtube about Pattaya and would like to ask two questions (I am going there in a couple of weeks):
1. Are the girls standing outside in front of gogo bars and looking to catch clients also "barfinable" or not?
2. It appears that in beerbars girls play pool or playing dice with clients. Is this something special? Are these girls different from other hookers?
Thanks for your infos!
Christian G
04-26-16, 10:03
1. Are the girls standing outside in front of gogo bars and looking to catch clients also "barfinable" or not?
2. It appears that in beerbars girls play pool or playing dice with clients. Is this something special? Are these girls different from other hookers?
1. Someone said that they are barfinable, someone said no. I don't know because I never try, just ask them when you are in town.
2. nothing special, these girls are there for find customer like all other girls. Play game is the classic boring routine of beerbars.
Banana Boi
04-26-16, 10:05
1. Are the girls standing outside in front of gogo bars and looking to catch clients also "barfinable" or not?
1. with a very few exceptions yes they are. Don't worry you'll usually find a better girl inside.
It is very difficult that anal is included in the 1000 baht! I always ask in advance if girl can do anal, and in the last 4 years all girls in Kinnaree ask me a tip for anal sex. CIM yes, is included but anal no!Thanks for clarifying about anal. Was only posting from my limited experience. I've only been with about 6 different girls at Kinnaree and 2 offered anal on a repeat session. If I recall I think I tipped the girls about 200 baht after the first session.
Old New Guy
04-26-16, 16:27
Its possible but the situation still stands, your asking for a fight in some circumstances. When the guy gets in your face, tell him that 'there's always tomorrow' as he starts pounding in your face as his drunk buddies egg him on..Once again, how do you know to who are giving the advice to stay low? You have no idea who can end pounding who. And remember that alcohol only take away the fear, but doesn't make you any faster, stronger or better in a fight.
Guys, I am in Banhkok with my friend and can't file reports for another week or so. My last night in Pattaya is will be worth the wait.
As for bar fining a girl out from under another guy. The mamasan asked me if I wanted Fon. I said yes. I was not even aware she was with someone until the manasan called her over. Also, as I said, I have had a girl pulled out from under me. Bummer, you buy drinks and she leaves to go dance or she leaves because the mamasan tells her to. I have no idea what the situation was with the other guy. This is how they play the game. Note that some guys will tie up a lady for hours with drinks then never BF her. Pick a fight with me? At the Peppermill? I don't think so. Track me down later, you could take me, but not inside Peppermill. Bouncers and girls both would take you down. I am too good a customer. Meaning, I have more money than brains.
Take care. I will be onhere very little over the next week.
As for bar fining a girl out from under another guy. The mamasan asked me if I wanted Fon. I said yes. I was not even aware she was with someone until the manasan called her over. Also, as I said, I have had a girl pulled out from under me. Bummer, you buy drinks and she leaves to go dance or she leaves because the mamasan tells her to. I have no idea what the situation was with the other guy. This is how they play the game. Note that some guys will tie up a lady for hours with drinks then never BF her. Pick a fight with me? At the Peppermill? I don't think so. Track me down later, you could take me, but not inside Peppermill. Bouncers and girls both would take you down. I am too good a customer. Meaning, I have more money than brains.
You just barfined a girl from under a guy, your going to have to leave the bar soon since you just barfined the girl (and the guy knows it). Will the bouncers protect you after you leave the bar? Its a risk is all I'm saying, especially if you don't have a wingman with you. Personally I like to keep a low profile in foreign countries but if you want to wear your "I'm American" t-shirt its your choice.
Mr Enternational
04-27-16, 19:01
You just barfined a girl from under a guy, your going to have to leave the bar soon since you just barfined the girl (and the guy knows it). Will the bouncers protect you after you leave the bar? Its a risk is all I'm saying, especially if you don't have a wingman with you. Personally I like to keep a low profile in foreign countries but if you want to wear your "I'm American" t-shirt its your choice.Your argument is moot seeing that there is no rash of attacks over someone stealing a chick that someone wanted to barfine. Over 10 years of going to Thailand and I have not seen one instance of this in the news or on the ground.
Wolvenvacht
04-27-16, 19:12
Your argument is moot seeing that there is no rash of attacks over someone stealing a chick that someone wanted to barfine. Over 10 years of going to Thailand and I have not seen one instance of this in the news or on the ground.The mind boggles! How can one bar-fine a girl under the hands of another guy? At the very least you have to speak to her, don't you? So she has already left the oher guy or management pulls her away for you. Or is anyone brazen enough to walk up to another table where boy & girl are sitting and then offer her to pay a barfine?
Banana Boi
04-27-16, 19:50
Mamasan at one of the Pattaya gogo clubs asks me which girl I like. I point at one sitting with a 50'ish Japanese guy. Next thing I know she's over there talking to the girl and the girl is winking at me. I go over and tell Mamasan no and apologize to the guy. No issue. Within 5 minutes the girl was barfined. Sadly, I never saw her again.
Like Breadman, I try to keep a very low profile in Thailand. Smile and move on. I can easily find another girl in Pattaya within minutes.
Like Breadman, I try to keep a very low profile in Thailand.Yes, of course, Mr. Banana Boy! . We all knew that already. The only question is " how low do you go ". Hahaha LOL! 😜.
Your argument is moot seeing that there is no rash of attacks over someone stealing a chick that someone wanted to barfine. Over 10 years of going to Thailand and I have not seen one instance of this in the news or on the ground.Mr. ENT: Candidly, that's 'cause everyone is shit scared of you! JK!
Yeah, most people just chill. And I for one usually rationalize something like that by saying to myself that the Universe is conspiring against me. And then I try to move to one of the other Universes. Hey, we are after all in the Multiverse, my man!
No problem!
I have been to Pattaya couple of months ago.
Had intercourse with 6 girls.
This was the first place that I tried.
Went here around 4 pm.
There was a fishbowl.
My friend and I went inside and took a look at girls.
Girls are lined up according to price (more pricier girls in left hand corner).
Saw a beauty she was priced at 2500 bahts.
Paid it and then the girl came and accompanied me to a room upstairs.
Room was average.
We took a bath together.
And then she cleaned my junior and started a soapy massage, massage was lousy.
I didn't mind it because that not why I came.
Then she went to bed and straightaway gave me a BJ with condom.
Then we had sex in couple of positions.
Sex was mechanical and I don't recommend this place.
Anyhow tipped her 300 bahts.
My friend on the other hand had a great time with the girl he choose.
She has given him contact info to call her when she was getting off work.
I found this site about a month back. I didn't know there was a resource like this out here. So I've been Mongering for awhile US, Germany, Mexico, etc. So I now setting my sights to Thailand. But of course I have questions. Most of which have been answered by reading your post. My main issue is my concern of acceptance. I'm a black American, and I would hate to travel all the way to Thailand and get faced with 'no not here' treatment. Any seasoned explorers know if I'll be free to enjoy myself as all of you do or should I ply my interest else where? Of I will be logging my every experience here once on my trip.
Happy hunting,
Commander.
Old New Guy
04-28-16, 21:50
The only question is " how low do you go ". Hahaha LOL! .For as low as one goes in Thailand, another foreigner will go lower!
Mr Enternational
04-28-16, 22:54
For as low as one goes in Thailand, another foreigner will go lower!LOL. The crack shacks are a testament to that! If I ever see lower than that I will have to shake my damn head.
I found this site about a month back. I didn't know there was a resource like this out here. Welcome Commander!
My main issue is my concern of acceptance. I'm a black American, and I would hate to travel all the way to Thailand and get faced with 'no not here' treatment. Any seasoned explorers know if I'll be free to enjoy myself as all of you do or should I ply my interest else where? Of I will be logging my every experience here once on my trip.Others will likely dissent, but I would not worry if I were you. I myself am a Brown American, and the worst thing that happens to me is that I get confused for an Indian. Sorry to say this to my Indian friends, but there is a definite reputation around the Indians. But Africans or African Americans are a very different class. Everyone has their own preferences, and individual girls won't favor the dark skin. But in general, I have never seen any wide-spread systemic rejection of dark-skinned mongers. I've spent lots of time with several brothers from various parts of the States, and they have all had a killer time. In particular, I met this dude from New York a few years ago and we just ripped through Bangkok together, never once encountering any kind of rejection or resentment (at least not beyond the norm). I also had a Ugandan wingman for a week or so (although he'd say I was his wingman), and he got treated like the African prince that he was.
So in short, I would say come to Thailand. It will blow your fucking socks off.
Welcome Commander!
Others will likely dissent, but I would not worry if I were you. I myself am a Brown American, and the worst thing that happens to me is that I get confused for an Indian. Sorry to say this to my Indian friends, but there is a definite reputation around the Indians. But Africans or African Americans are a very different class. Everyone has their own preferences, and individual girls won't favor the dark skin. But in general, I have never seen any wide-spread systemic rejection of dark-skinned mongers. I've spent lots of time with several brothers from various parts of the States, and they have all had a killer time. In particular, I met this dude from New York a few years ago and we just ripped through Bangkok together, never once encountering any kind of rejection or resentment (at least not beyond the norm). I also had a Ugandan wingman for a week or so (although he'd say I was his wingman), and he got treated like the African prince that he was.
So in short, I would say come to Thailand. It will blow your fucking socks off.There is a HUUUGE difference between how Thai girls view black guys vs Indians! Most Thai girls are concerned about the size of a black guys dick (sorry butt (pun intended) stereotypes prevail) , whereas with Indians. Not so much! Haha. 😜.
There is a HUUUGE difference between how Thai girls view black guys vs Indians! Most Thai girls are concerned about the size of a black guys dick (sorry butt (pun intended) stereotypes prevail) , whereas with Indians. Not so much! Haha. .LOL. Very true.
But let me add, lest my comments about Indians spin off into a flame war, that with a little attention to appearance (clothing, hair, body odor, shoes, facial hair, etc), and proper adherence to customs regarding tipping, buying drinks, etc. , one can easily overcome these prejudices.
Ira Johnson
04-29-16, 03:55
My Chinese wife and I will visit Thailand in late May / early June, with 2 nights in Bangkok, two nights in Pattaya, and five in Koh Lanta. My wife likes to play with other girls when we travel, to the point that we both arrived home from the Philippines sick with colds from staying up all night for a few nights playing with a newfound GF there. So she is excited, and that excites me.
While we certainly are prepared for P4P, we prefer to meet a 'girlfriend' type like we did in Manila, someone who might even like to travel with us down to Koh Lanta. We would love to have a pretty fun girl with us as we relax on the beach down there.
Is Bangkok or Pattaya better for this? Does anyone have any experience meeting girls to join you and your partner? If paying is the way to go, are there recommendations of people or places in either Bangkok or Pattaya?
Thank you very much for any information you can give.
My Chinese wife and I will visit Thailand in late May / early June, with 2 nights in Bangkok, two nights in Pattaya, and five in Koh Lanta. My wife likes to play with other girls when we travel, to the point that we both arrived home from the Philippines sick with colds from staying up all night for a few nights playing with a newfound GF there. So she is excited, and that excites me.
While we certainly are prepared for P4P, we prefer to meet a 'girlfriend' type like we did in Manila, someone who might even like to travel with us down to Koh Lanta. We would love to have a pretty fun girl with us as we relax on the beach down there.
Is Bangkok or Pattaya better for this? Does anyone have any experience meeting girls to join you and your partner? If paying is the way to go, are there recommendations of people or places in either Bangkok or Pattaya?
Thank you very much for any information you can give.Depends on your attractiveness and game. You could try discos and your wife could make eye contact and get flirty. The girls will pick up on this and decide to partake. You could try social media dating sites. Finding bisexual girls can be tricky. For instance most girls have a close pal. The downside is if that pal attractive enough in your book. To me its like the girl picked the third wheel which is bad if you have differing tastes. Asia is not the best for 3 some but you can pull it off if you do your homework. If you have to resort to P4P the mamasan can be a big help sometimes. Girls can be "shy" if its not a female they are familiar with.
I found this site about a month back. I didn't know there was a resource like this out here. So I've been Mongering for awhile US, Germany, Mexico, etc. So I now setting my sights to Thailand. But of course I have questions. Most of which have been answered by reading your post. My main issue is my concern of acceptance. I'm a black American, and I would hate to travel all the way to Thailand and get faced with 'no not here' treatment. Any seasoned explorers know if I'll be free to enjoy myself as all of you do or should I ply my interest else where? Of I will be logging my every experience here once on my trip.
Happy hunting,
Commander.You will be OK. The Philippines is better / cheaper but it is more dangerous and rich North Asians have messed up the system by overpaying. If your doing a short trip say 2 weeks it will be stellar. Usually the discrimination and problems arise when you do a long trip say 3 mos. Because then you see locals up close and personal.
Wolvenvacht
04-29-16, 05:50
My Chinese wife and I will visit Thailand in late May / early June, with 2 nights in Bangkok, two nights in Pattaya, and five in Koh Lanta. My wife likes to play with other girls when we travel, to the point that we both arrived home from the Philippines sick with colds from staying up all night for a few nights playing with a newfound GF there. So she is excited, and that excites me.
While we certainly are prepared for P4P, we prefer to meet a 'girlfriend' type like we did in Manila, someone who might even like to travel with us down to Koh Lanta. We would love to have a pretty fun girl with us as we relax on the beach down there.
Is Bangkok or Pattaya better for this? Does anyone have any experience meeting girls to join you and your partner? If paying is the way to go, are there recommendations of people or places in either Bangkok or Pattaya?
Thank you very much for any information you can give.Only two nights in Bangkok and two nights in Pattaya to find someone who is happy to be in an FFM threesome is not much time. It almost limits your options to P4 P.
I suggest you go to Soi Cowboy or Nana and trawl the agogo clubs there and ask the mamasan in the clubs for a good lead. Then interview that girl and take her for LT. That will give you some time to get to know her. You don't have time enough to first try a few ST with different girls and then upgrade the best of them to LT before you have to decide and invite her.
If you don't find someone in Bangkok, there is still Patttaya, but if you can still change your schedule, why not stay 4 days in Bangkok or Pattaya: it will give you more opportunity to check out what is available, test, compare and decide.
JohnPhoenix
04-29-16, 06:18
My second day in Pattaya involved me getting up late after the amorous encounter with a freelancer from outside the club. My aim this trip was to find girls from different avenues. This time it was Thai Friendly.
I had made a profile a month before my visit and was in touch with many. However while browsing on the second day I found a girl working at a massage shop on the Beach Road. Had some chat with her and thought of trying her out. Went for a foot massage on incognito mode. She did not know I was the one chatting as I had not posted my pic on the website. The girl was nice and soft spoken and open for me to take her upstairs for an Oil massage. I stuck to my foot massage to further evaluate her. She was nice and looked like a GFE material.
Took her number and decided to meet her after her shift which was going to be at 1700 Hrs. Decided to meet her at the Pattaya Beer Garden for some snacks and drinks. A couple of drinks later, decided to take it to my room.
The sex was good. The experience with her great. As I had analyzed a proper GFE.
When she was about to leave gave her 800 for her room rent. She was happy.
As soon as I stepped out to see her off someone spayed me with water. I knew 'winter err Songkran was coming.'
Cheers,
J
LittleBigMan
04-29-16, 07:29
There is a HUUUGE difference between how Thai girls view black guys vs Indians! Most Thai girls are concerned about the size of a black guys dick (sorry butt (pun intended) stereotypes prevail) , whereas with Indians. Not so much! Haha. .Unless, the brother is from the Democratic Republic of Congo or has some related gene from that region he shouldn't be turn away?
SeverusSnape
04-29-16, 07:59
LOL. Very true.
But let me add, lest my comments about Indians spin off into a flame war, that with a little attention to appearance (clothing, hair, body odor, shoes, facial hair, etc), and proper adherence to customs regarding tipping, buying drinks, etc. , one can easily overcome these prejudices.I agree. I am an Indian and have been mongering in BKK and Pattyya for quite some time. I also faced some discriminatory behavior at places. Though I am definitely not kept.
Wanting in any area. Be it personal hygiene, or looks, or splashing money on bar girls and buying drinks. I am extremely welcome in most of the Thai establishments (off walking.
Street) and tend to avoid the upstart MIXX and Insomnia- maybe they do not need my business, I am happy to take it elsewhere. Pussy is on Tap in Pattayya & Bangkok -.
There's enough available not to worry. And in all fairness. I have seen some pretty obnoxious groups of Indian tourists (loud, bit stingy, boorish etc) but I have also seen far more.
Western males getting completely drunk and brawling, bar fighting, puking on streets etc.
Racism and discrimination is a way of life in Thailand. Even the famous Rapper Ribkat was thrown out of a Bangkok hotel for being. Well, black! One of my African American friends (Ivy League college, in Tuxedos and all.) was denied entry to Mixx. If you face unfriendliness, just move on.
There's many many places where you would be welcome and its not worth worrying about!
Leisure Dude
04-29-16, 11:05
My main issue is my concern of acceptance. I'm a black American, and I would hate to travel all the way to Thailand and get faced with 'no not here' treatment. Any seasoned explorers know if I'll be free to enjoy myself as all of you do or should I ply my interest else where? Of I will be logging my every experience here once on my trip.Commander K,
I'm a black guy from the State as well I just got back from Thailand over a month ago still working on my reports, it was my first time to the land of smiles. I traveled to Phuket, Pattaya & Bangkok and had no problems meeting ladies for fun. From soapy, go-go and streetwalkers. Just keep and smile on your smile and a positive attitude and you have the time of your life!
Apple Court
04-29-16, 13:57
My Chinese wife and I will visit Thailand in late May / early June, with 2 nights in Bangkok, two nights in Pattaya, and five in Koh Lanta.We've met a few times in Shanghai, and I moved to Bangkok last year. I've no experience at all with this, but here's what I would do. 1) Put an ad on Craigslist 2) I wouldn't go to the agogos, as they wouldn't want to go with you long-term and would also be very pricey. 3) I would go to Beer Garden on soi 7 and then Bangkok Beat disco or the many other places where freelancers hangout. You're not very long in any place, so CL may be a good start before you get here. Good luck!
BTW, tried to PM you. But your mailbox is full. Hope to see you next week.
I found this site about a month back. I didn't know there was a resource like this out here. So I've been Mongering for awhile US, Germany, Mexico, etc. So I now setting my sights to Thailand. But of course I have questions. Most of which have been answered by reading your post. My main issue is my concern of acceptance. I'm a black American, and I would hate to travel all the way to Thailand and get faced with 'no not here' treatment. Any seasoned explorers know if I'll be free to enjoy myself as all of you do or should I ply my interest else where? Of I will be logging my every experience here once on my trip.
Happy hunting,
Commander.I live in Thailand part time and I am black. Have many black friends that live and visit. Never had a problem.
Drop me a pm if you want more info. No use boring the others with details they already know.
JohnPhoenix
04-30-16, 06:14
Slept late till around 1200 and could hear commotion out of my hotel located on the walking street. Peeped out and realized Songkran has caught up to me. The hotel I was staying at had its water connection cut. From the Pattaya Muncipality department (as per the hotel) and I was given a bucket full of water to shave shit shag and bath. I was in two minds to go out on this day and get all dirty but still decided- WTF let's just embrace it.
The atmosphere outside was festive and everyone was enjoying. The beach road was full of people with small concerts organized at strategic locations. I tried out the local cuisine displayed alongside TE road and scourged for a girl I could take to hotel. There were many MILFS who were just drinking like a fish and just wanted to have a nice time. All the young girls were with boyfriends and were not looking for business on this day. The street was milling with people of different countries and it was a good experience. Oh and yes I was being drenched in water and talcum powder mixed with water.
The festivities continued till 2130 Hrs. At this point everyone left for home all tired. Mind that there were no Massage shops or bars open.
Tips:
1. If you want to monger on Songkran I. E. The main day, don't come to Pattaya.
2. Don't have travel plans on the the day as you would be just stuck in the snail paced traffic.
3. Protect your valuables like cellphones passports and money by buying a waterproof wallet. Max 40 Baht.
4. Protect your ears and eyes while going out. The quality of water and the force at which it would be thrown at you can not be predicted.
5. Do not pick up fights during this time anywhere. If you are there in Pattaya out on the streets, it is a non verbal consent from your side that you can be drenched in water. No point in picking up fights with locals who are drunk and might possibly be high on drugs.
6. Keep yourself hydrated at all times.
7. Do not display (in your infinite wisdom stemming from being drunk) any private parts which might offend the Thai people. I saw a very drunk ladyboy who was flashing her private parts being taken away by boys in brown.
8. Do not drink the water being thrown at you- I. E. Keep your mouth shut whilst you are being drenched.
Cheers,
J
Commander K,
I'm a black guy from the State as well I just got back from Thailand over a month ago still working on my reports, it was my first time to the land of smiles. I traveled to Phuket, Pattaya & Bangkok and had no problems meeting ladies for fun. From soapy, go-go and streetwalkers. Just keep and smile on your smile and a positive attitude and you have the time of your life!Thanks for the warm welcome! And you all have set my mind at ease. I'll be leaving soon for my romp in the land of smiles. And every detail I'll post. Hitting it with a buddy of mine. I inform when I have a more specific date in mind and welcome any other of my brethren to join me when you can.
Thanks again!
Commander.
Do Blowjob Bars exist?
I'm sorry for the stupid question, but years ago I heard about blowjob bars in Thailand / Pattaya. They were bars where you could sit and get a beer, and then pay for a girl / woman / old woman? To get under your table and give you a blowjob while you drink, for like 20 minutes+.
Do these places actually exist or is it an urban myth?
How much does it cost?
Are the women hot or are they kinda rejects?
I'm in South East Asia but not Thailand yet.
Anyone have any suggestions? Given the heat index in May, I'd rather have AC, than not, if I'm going to spend an hour on a massage.
Thanks!
LittleBigMan
05-01-16, 10:04
Anyone have any suggestions? Given the heat index in May, I'd rather have AC, than not, if I'm going to spend an hour on a massage.
Thanks!You got to be kidding right? I've never been to a massage place here in Pattaya, and that includes Soi B.....even the worse dump have A/C and I've been here a while. But of course anything is possible?
You got to be kidding right? I've never been to a massage place here in Pattaya, and that includes Soi B.....even the worse dump have A/C and I've been here a while. But of course anything is possible?Thanks, dude. BTW I was not kidding. The only time I have been to Pattaya was years ago and all I visited was 1'soapie in some huge building. No idea where or the name. It is all a blur now.
But, with your info I plan to try out one in Soi Buakhao. Thanks! Much appreciated.
Mr Enternational
05-01-16, 23:11
Thanks, dude. BTW I was not kidding. The only time I have been to Pattaya was years ago and all I visited was 1'soapie in some huge building. No idea where or the name. It is all a blur now.
But, with your info I plan to try out one in Soi Buakhao. Thanks! Much appreciated.Well there are about 50 massage shops on Soi Buakhao, so you will have your pick.
Well there are about 50 massage shops on Soi Buakhao, so you will have your pick.Haha, Mr Ent. Well I guess I will have to see which one has a Mr Ent special that day? I'll tell them you sent me!
LittleBigMan
05-02-16, 01:29
Haha, Mr Ent. Well I guess I will have to see which one has a Mr Ent special that day? I'll tell them you sent me!If you are looking for a legit one, give Eden a try it is located on Soi Diana just off the entrance to L. K. Metro where all the Go Go are located.
If you are looking for a legit one, give Eden a try it is located on Soi Diana just off the entrance to L. K. Metro where all the Go Go are located.Thanks, LBM. I will check it out and post my feedback on Soi Buakhao during the upcoming week. I like hanging out with the pros but I prefer the non-pros (or semi pros) when I am ready. In my experience unless there is some special chemistry, the higher the girl is on the 1-10 scale, the lower is my experience once away from the club. There are exceptions of course, but I prefer to play the higher % stats. OF course, YMMV may wary if you are a young, hot dude, which I am not. LOL 😟.
But, I do ok sometimes.
Well there are about 50 massage shops on Soi Buakhao, so you will have your pick.Or you will have your dick if you don't pay attention, LOL!
LittleBigMan
05-02-16, 10:47
Thanks, LBM. I will check it out and post my feedback on Soi Buakhao during the upcoming week. I like hanging out with the pros but I prefer the non-pros (or semi pros) when I am ready. In my experience unless there is some special chemistry, the higher the girl is on the 1-10 scale, the lower is my experience once away from the club. There are exceptions of course, but I prefer to play the higher % stats. OF course, YMMV may wary if you are a young, hot dude, which I am not. LOL .
But, I do ok sometimes.If you are looking for anything but a legit one this is not the place to go. The majority of the ladies here are nothing to look at fun to shoot the bull around with them but they are there to toss you around like a rag doll.
JohnPhoenix
05-02-16, 11:56
Woke early as per my own standards. Went for a hefty European breakfast in a cafe opposite the Mixx disco. Was one of the beat breakfast I had. Coffee was unlimited however it was slightly on a higher side as compared to Pattaya standards. 300 be.
While having breakfast I saw a single Caucasian girl sitting alone and having brunch in the cafe. I am not sure what happened to me but a few glances from her gave the courage to say 'Privet'. And bingo she was indeed Russian. She thought I knew Russian language but I apologetically said I was not aware and it was just a lame ass attempt from my side to say Hi. Anyways we shared stories and told her how I had been to Murmansk a western city in Russia and how her home was closer to that place. Ended up exchanging numbers.
Post the hearty breakfast went for Foot massage in a shop in the second road. Took a baht bus to Soi six and strolled a bit. Found a girl that took my fancy. Grabbed her a drink. Took her upstairs and baam baam thank you ma'am. All inclusive 1250 be.
Came back and took a nap in the room and woke up around 2000 Hrs. Went out and had some local cuisine. Got a bottle of water and took a stroll of the Beach road. Found a MILF age approx 35 (looks 30- don't they all). Found her upbeat and eager to please. She said long time 2000 be. I smilingly asked her- you don't like me? She got the hint. I said 1000 LT and a dinner thrown in. She happily agreed. I asked what time would you leave. She said up to you. Fair enough.
Headed back to hotel.
Took shower together. No marks on belly although she was a mother of two. Boobs big enough to excite me. Skin was flawless. Had a soft and passionate session later. Throughly exhausted we took shower again and went for dinner. Went to a good seafood restaurant and had some proper dinner. Bill was 550 be. Popped my K pill for future support.
Came back to hotel and had two more pops before calling it a night. She was eager to please since she thought I would repeat as I was staying for a week more. Woke early morning. I asked for another pop. She said she was having pain down there (maybe maybe not). She offered BBBJ. I was a happy man.
She left 8 in the morning after giving me her number.
3 pops + 1 BBBJ: 1000+ 550 (dinner) not bad.
Meanwhile I saw the message of the Russian girl in the morning. She had texted late night at 3 am but I did not read as I was busy in other amorous activities.
Do Blowjob Bars exist?
I'm sorry for the stupid question, but years ago I heard about blowjob bars in Thailand / Pattaya. They were bars where you could sit and get a beer, and then pay for a girl / woman / old woman? To get under your table and give you a blowjob while you drink, for like 20 minutes+.
Do these places actually exist or is it an urban myth?
How much does it cost?
Are the women hot or are they kinda rejects?
I'm in South East Asia but not Thailand yet.The BJ bars in Nana BKK and Cowboy pretty much had 4's and below. A lot of them had bad teeth and I wouldn't do them for free. Some elderly men have lower standards but I have seen some with higher standards. Most guys don't suffer jet lag for that rag tag lineup. For 85% of guys they won't stimulate a hard-on and that era with passable BJ girls ended 10-15 years ago.
If you are looking for anything but a legit one this is not the place to go. The majority of the ladies here are nothing to look at fun to shoot the bull around with them but they are there to toss you around like a rag doll.Ok thanks much. BTW any places near Central Festival you recommend for changing USD at a good rate without commission?
Thanks and cheers.
Banana Boi
05-03-16, 10:25
any places near Central Festival you recommend for changing USD at a good rate without commission?
Across the street on 2nd Road right beside Pattaya Night Bazaar has decent rates. I think the sign is pink and says Money Exchange. The further away you are from somewhere touristy like Walking Street the better rates you will find.
LittleBigMan
05-03-16, 10:44
Ok thanks much. BTW any places near Central Festival you recommend for changing USD at a good rate without commission?
Thanks and cheers.There is a place booth, that I've found to have pretty consistent high compare to others. It is at the Avenue mall down from Soi Diana. As for commission everyone charges. Before you see the rate posted the commission / Fee is already taken out.
Pattaya Trip Report, Day 6.
I am back online! I left Pattaya a week ago but have been offline. I am now in Phuket, but I need to wrap up the last two nights in Pattaya. So back to a week ago last Sunday, I believe.
Today was a day of repeats. I walked up and down Soi 6 a few times in the mid afternoon. I found one girl, Nam at Dolls. Decent smile, decent body with apparently nice boobs. We went inside, she got my drink and we sat down. She said she was from Bangkok. I assumed she was an Issan girl. Claimed to have been there just 12 days. Conversation was difficult. I offered her a LD, which she accepted. She drank a little of it, but our personalities just weren't matching up. Conversation was difficult. She left me to go talk so some friends, and I figured that she felt the same way about how things were going. I started paying my bill, and she then came over like what's happening man? I just shrugged and left. Pretty face, cute figure and decent legs, but oh well. I walked back by later and she looked at me, like she was hoping I would cover back over, but I didn't. I felt a session would not be all that good and left and felt it was time to head back to WS. It would be early there, but I have not been sleeping, was tired and wanted to check things out earlier and possibly retire back to the hotel with my prize girl earlier as well.
So I am exiting Soi 6 to the west, then Jiem at Halifax grabs on to me. I let her take me inside, a bit reluctantly, but she is so happy so, ok, why not have a drink before I head back. We sit down, at which point she soon starts to play with johnny boy. OK, rather than strike out at Soi 6 today, I give in and we go upstairs. I was in for fireworks. This girl was on fire. After Bee and Fon, it was my time to lie there, and this tiny girl tries to suck me dry. A good 10 minutes of oral action. Lots of FK. I am blown away. Then she climbs on top and starts banging to where I would have died of a heart attack where I to try doing that. Cowboy, reverse cowboy, cowboy with her leaning way back, cowboy with we me holding her sitting upright (about the only movement I actually did), and this tiny thing just kept on going. I was amazed at this energizer bunny. Never seen anything like this. Not sure if she was climaxing or trying to or was just performing for me, but if you are wanting a sexual dynamo, Jiem is your girl. I never finished, since I didn't want to as I had decided to go back for Bell, but man oh man. I tipped her 50%.
After that, back to the hotel for cleanup and a short nap, then on to WS by 9 PM. I really don't want to stay out late. I have been so tired. I need rest. I know that after Bee left me yesterday, I dropped off to sleep in minutes. Having Bell sleep over would be nice, but I know she doesn't like LT. But first, I walk up and down the street a few times. I am getting drenched from the heat, humidity and walking. I see I-Bar not too busy, I go in, find a seat near the front, and order a diet coke to get some caffeine, possibly not my wisest decision if I want to sleep later. I eye a girl across the room but she does not seem too interested. Two friends join her, but I have to be too old for any of them. Well, Pam was ok with me, but I think she was looked to get laid and paid, and I don' t sense that so much from these girls, but what do I know? Oh, no Pam sighting either. (The girl who took 1,000 baht from me a few nights ago.).
I leave and check for potential FL girls, and there are a few decent ones, but not what I am looking for. So, back to Sugar Baby. I go in, sit down and within minutes Bee has spotted me and comes over. We talk a bit and, yes, she wants to go out with me again. I am a little concerned, wondering if she will act shy and reserved again, or if she will open up. (My previous experience with her was nearly spiritual, but that was due to me and not anything she was doing, which was little, actually.) But, on that night, her beauty was all I needed. She was again super-hot in her jean shorts and tight shirt when we left. I have to bite my hand to keep me from spouting undying love and appearing like a blithering idiot here. But to save time in my report, back in bed she was the same as the night before. My endorphin levels were lower and reality thankfully started slipping back into place as I expected they would. The spirituality I had felt previously was gone with her lackluster performance. Still so, so beautiful, but one needs a woman to respond, and she wasn't. And, like the night before, I still couldn't release. She let me try. I would give up, rest a few minutes and climb back on. I even changed to a different condom. Nothing helped. I lied close to her, even put my head in her lap and she rubbed it soothingly, but she did nothing more, such as offering a BJ, a HG or something to help get me off. Sigh. She gets dressed and asked if I will see her tomorrow. I just say "maybe". At this point, what is the use? She was indeed turning out to be a starfish, and I would rather not face anymore disappointments. Maybe I will go back to see Bell, finally keeping my promise to her. That girl is full of energy, so I don't expect her to just lie still. Maybe first I will go back to Soi 6. Maybe I will look for a FL. Maybe I should just go to sleep.
But I have to admit that I am getting a bit weary here in Pattaya, after tying so hard to be with 2 or 3 women each day. I have one more day here, then off to Bangkok to meet up with my age 40 year Thai virgin GF. I will spend a week with her, and hopefully ensure she is not a age 41 year virgin, then I will go to Phuket for 4 nights then either I will rejoin my GF in Bangkok or even Phuket, or return to Pattaya for 5 days before returning home.
Pattaya Trip Report, Day 7 (Monday) Final Day.
Another bad night of sleep, but better than the previous day. But this my last full day in Pattaya. What to do? I think I will write off Bee, the classy beauty that leaves me drooling in her short shorts and tight top. She is an awesome girl, but after two visits she isn't loosening up to become more GF-like, and I still can't release with her (though mostly my fault), so I need to find someone else for some excitement. Plus, I don't come all this way just to be with the same girl time after time. I recommend her totally, and hope she will be energetic with you, and if any of you see her in the next week, let me know, in case I return to Pattaya before heading home. Sweet girl who you will droll over, but did I ruin her with me on my first night's instructions to go slow, or is that how she is? Regardless, I won't see her tonight.
I had thought of going back to Kinneree today, but I like to be able to choose from a wider variety of women, and getting back from there is a bit risky if you don't have your own vehicle, so I decide that I will instead head back to Soi 6 for the afternoon session. I think I will get a massage, too, as I legitimately need one as well. Might use it to see if extras are available at some random MP, but the last thing I need is a hard tug down there after that performance by Jiem. Then it will be back to WS to close out the night with, I hope, a stunner. I am thinking of taking Bell home (ok, maybe not quite a stunner, but definitely a killer body), but I will look around first. A FL is always an option.
So, I headed off to Soi 6 around 3 PM. The traffic going north on 2nd road has been much worse that I recall it being previously. I decided to start walking rather than sit still in a baht bus baking in the sun. I would hop on one once they had caught up. I was able to walk quite a ways before the traffic finally caught up with me, at which point I waved one down and hopped one. Arriving at the Soi, I didn't want to spend much time searching, so on my second pass I settle on a decent looking girl who blew me a kiss as I walked by the Pussy Club. She had a cute face and decent legs and nice figure, but I couldn't tell at first glance about her boobies. I stopped to say Hello, and she immediately told me she wanted boom boom. I said I was hot and thirsty and wanted a cold beverage first. Inside, I asked her name, and it was Nam. Hmm, I just met a girl named Nam. Must be a common name. I asked where she was from and she said Bangkok. Hmmm. I recently met a girl who said she recently moved down from Bangkok 13 days ago. Hmmm, but I know I have never been to the Pussy Club, so this must be coincidence. But, I am starting to remember a few things (remember I am in a bit of a fog from exhaustion). This is starting to seem too familiar. Do I know her? I asked if she knew me as even the inside of the bar was bringing memories, but she said she didn't think so. Well, after the session, I checked my notes and dern, this was indeed the same girl I walked out on a day or two before for not making a connection with me, but I had the club name wrong in my report. The two bars are close and I looked at the wrong sign. Sigh.
My gut reaction from the day before was largely correct. We still didn't really hit it off but I BFed her, 350 for the BF and 1000 for her. She gave a less than average shower, then immediately started the session with a BBBJ, though she at least kept it slow. It really wasn't too bad. She then asked if I liked things fast or slow as she put on the cover, and did fairly well on top throughout several positions. But, while the service was ok, it was nothing special, and she was not the least upset I couldn't release. Practically every other girl on Soi 6 took it as a challenge to get me off and felt sad when they couldn't. Not Nam. I normally tip 200, but I gave her just 100.
I left and came back down to Soi 13, then walked over to Soi 13/2. I was searching for food, but when a halfway cute girl came out to offer me a massage, I said ok. I really should be getting more of these as they are so cheap. I asked for a one hour oil massage for 300. The cute girl was just a front though, and I was handed off to the real masseuse who, on average, was ok, being at least doable. If she offered boom boom, I could at least do her to chalk up another conquest. I have never done a Soi 13/1, 2 or 3 massage before so I was curious what would happen. Would it be legit massage or would all the extras be offered? She led me to a private area and told me to strip down for a shower. It was a solo shower. Legit so far. She did the back rub then on the flip, she soon got to the boys for some gentle, well lubricated rubbing and tugging, and asked if I wanted her to continue. Of course, how much? She finally said she wanted 1500 extra for basically a suck and rub. No, that is too much, I can get FS for less than that on Soi 6 I said. She shrugged and said fine, and too quickly finished the rest of the massage. I confirmed later on the clock I had been in there less than 40 minutes. I still tipped 300, as I have heard the girls only get to keep the tips. Perhaps I should have complained about the time, but I didn't really care. I did not get the name of the MP, sorry, nor the girl. I suppose most MPs operate similarity, though I thought many also offered FS. Only advice is to be prepared for a legit massage, then happy if more is offered at a price you want to pay. If a cute girl comes out to ask you if you want a massage, again, unless you are happy with a legit massage, ask if she will be the one giving it. If you are really wanting extras, make sure the girl you think will be doing the job is the one you will be assigned to.
Back to the hotel after the massage and a failed quest to find suitable food. I guess I will eat on WS tonight.
I am writing this a week after the events happened, which is good for you in that the reporting will be shorter. Anyway, I rested back at the hotel, then headed back to WS for my last night in Pattaya. I avoided I-Bar, and I avoided stopping by Peppermint and Fon. I have decided to give up on her. Just not worth it. So will I go BF Bell, the tight spinner? I think maybe I will go to Skyfall first, but I am walking down WS and see Bliss, a club I have not tired. I go in and find a seat. They have some nice girls dancing on stage. At the far end one catches my attention. She is very pretty, has the goldenish hair I like, nice boobs which are a good handful, just starting to droop but still very nice at this point and looking firm, nice figure than may be a pound over from too many LDs, but no problem. As the songs play, the dancers change position in the line, so she moves closer and closer to me. I begin to realize why she is attractive to me because she has the same hair and build that Fon does. I look at a few other girls in the lineup, but this girl is enticing me and I start to consider BFing her. She reaches the end of the stage and seems to notice my looking at her. She smiles. As the leaves the stage she turns and I see her back for the first time. She has a familiar looking tattoo on her back. No, come on, it can't be! She recognizes me, and she grabs a butch-looking friend and they are coming over to sit with me. What the heck?
Yes, it is Fon and she no longer works at the Peppermint. I don't know why. Something happened, but I am not sure whose idea it was. I think she probably got fired. We talk a bit. She says she wants to go with me, and I think I hear her talk with her friend about going to a disco. Is she hitting me up simply to get her and her friend out of there to go dancing in a disco? I refuse to BF her friend, and she is happy with this. Long story short, the BF is a whopping 1,500 at Bliss. Insane! But we leave (and Bee looks hotter than Fon in jeans and tight shirt) and she wants to go to the Peppermint! Great. I do think it might be fun, forgetting that I might very well be hit up for a tone of LDs. So, of course, when we enter Wam sees me immediately (how does she know? And the whole lot come over for LDs. I limit them to 2. I mention to Luk I should get one on the house, and I do. Everyone seems happy, and I still have no idea what caused Fon to leave. Eventually we leavefor the hotel, with me not sure what will happen. No mention of her price or if it will be ST or LT.
Well, cutting to the chase, of course nothing happens. She spends the night but it is hands off. She is constantly on her phone. I touch her, even climb on her even, and while she does not pull away, she does nothing in the way of doing her job. We do talk, but no action. It is now too late to take her back to Bliss for a refund. We go to sleep. In the morning I try to make a move, but nothing. I repeat my wondering of why she doesn't like me. (I know, I should be yelling at her.) She scoffs at the idea and asks why I would say that. (I mean, really?) Too, in my own mind, I am mad at myself for letting a WG bring up these types of feelings I was having. What has her liking me have anything to do with a business transaction? I say I want boom boom. Her not having boom boom with me shows she must not like me. She said she having her period. Bull, I think. She slept naked and there are no blood stains. And there were no blood several nights ago. I figure getting angry won't do any good as I am about to leave town, but I do ask to take some pictures of her, dressed. Maybe I will post one later. I say I don't know how much to pay her as nothing happened, again. She said to pay whatever I wanted. Well, I didn't want to pay her anything. I did give her some money, but I will decline to say how much as some of you will get upset even if it was a single baht. I did give her more than she deserved, but whatever. I am too nice. I am not a happy camper though. The phone rang any my Bell driver was there, early. I was ready, as was she, and with a final hug we went down stairs together. She got her ID and left without looking at me. I saw her go across the street and get a motorcycle driver. She did look over as they got on and did wave goodbye. Argh.
Why did she go out with me? I don't really know. Did she just want to get away from Bliss? She knew from before I might not pay for non-service, so do these girls get to keep a part of their BF? I have no idea why she would decide to sleep over with me with no assurance I would pay her anything if she didn't perform. I did learn a little about her in talking however. Her mother told her she needs to work harder to buy her a car. Fon goes on international trips of some sort to earn money, and she goes to Malesia and Singapore to have sex several times a year. It just seems matter-of-fact to her. She misses her daughter, but her mom is telling her to work more, so she does. Just like that. I said she needed to have fun on her own, and I got a blank stare, like going off to have fun was a foreign concept. A shame. I said she could find rich men to marry. She said a Japanese man wanted to marry her. He would spend time with her but no sex. He apparently couldn't marry her due to her kid not be allowed in Japan if they married, or something like that. But still why not have sex with me? I don't understand. Whatever. I guess she is using me for something. She says she wants to see me if I come back to Pattaya next week. Of course she does. I had mentioned I might be back in November. She says she will be out on her business trip in November. I say I will be going to Phuket soon. She lights up, joking about me asking her go to Phuket. Sure. Four nights sleeping next to her and no boom boom would drive me insane.
A few days later, out of curiosity, I got onto Line and wished her good luck. She blows me back a kiss. Sigh. I can't figure this one out.
Anyway, you can spare me the lectures on not falling for gogo dancers. Really, I have not fallen for her. I am challenged by her. I find her attractive and I am drawn to her, but I am not in love with her. She is an interesting case and I am drawn to that I guess. I have plenty of money I can blow on her if that is what I want, but at this point now it sure seems like a wasted effort. I would return to see Bell before I would return to see Fon.
So, part 1 of my LOS trip to Pattaya is over. It ended on a frustrating note and with no releases for the last few days, but that is OK. I am off to Bangkok for a week in what will be another failed attempt to take my Thai GF's virginity. I don't yet know that, so I am hoping that having no releases will help me fill my GF up for her first sexual penetration. But, no, I end frustrated. She is the type of girl a guy should want to marry. Just this one little problem I can't break through. We have tried everything, but that little opening just won't open up. Lube, alcholol. Nothing works. A gyno got a finger or two up in there to confirm all is healthy, but I even touch the opening and she tenses and gets scared. I tell her she needs to practice with fingers and things and learn to relax. This girl is special, but no marriage if she can't get rid of that little problem.
Anyway, this concludes Part 1 of my Pattaya trip report. I say part 1 as I am scheduled to return here for 5 nights after leaving Phuket and before heading home. The GF wanted me to take her to Phuket. I said not until at least Saturday. I said I might need to head home suddenly but, if not, then I might call her down to Phuket. If I do, I will have to move out of Patong. I would get a nice hotel closer to the islands and other attractions. I would probably for sure be doing this if we were having sex. But without the sex, it is almost like she is a daughter. Sigh. I will probably lie, say I am heading back home, but really stay here and complete my vacation as planned. I am evil. Maybe that is why Fon was sent to frustrate me. Haha If you want to follow my adventures, I will soon be on the Phuket boards.
Old New Guy
05-04-16, 21:37
Peamble: The full editor doesn't load for me so I'll keep reports short until I can have it working.
I made to Pattaya yesterday after one year. Found a nice accommodation for a small price in Naklua. That works better than staying in the darkside, as the girls would not moan about it.
Around midnight arrived at the Red Car. I did not even completed a full round when I stopped by a spinner with a fresh face and a sexy body, Kung.
She possibly 25 yrs old, certainly not from Isaan, fair skin, pretty face with full luscious lips, hot legs and figure. Nice straight dark brown hair. Quiet attitude, not an hardened pro, she didn't wanted to do LT but we kind of met midway, the agreement being 2K until early morning.
We went to a late dinner at one of the restaurants facing Hollywood disco, in the entertainment area that is virtually reserved to Thais. Not much conversation but she certainly could eat! The 500 Bt. bill, for a totally unsophisticated meal came a bit higher than what I was used to pay there.
At the 7-11 stop she indulged a bit too much in buying on me, including cigarettes!. That almost never happened to me before, but one has to take things as they come.
In the room her attitude was Ok, but she took an endless shower. She was polite and respectful all the time, and went to smoke outside. Given these signs I was a bit pessimistic, well it took a lot of pussy liking to warm her up. From there on it was decent sex, with little connection, kissing and ability on her side. She came once and myself being at the second pop, could not work her much longer.
Mouth action totally forgettable. After the act she fall asleep, but she had been told already that considering her so-so performance she would have got 1500, and she was cool with that. Since another round appeared not to be doable, she was out at 6 am in hot pants, top and stiletto heels. Thing that I don't like a bit, but she had refused to go change dresses before.
Got her number but repeat is unlikely. All in all it worked good for me for the first night.
Tonight I went out again but I was spent and couldn't play. The FL situation appears overall OK, not much male competition. After some fucking around I called it a night. I have plenty of time to do better.
Naked Gunz
05-04-16, 22:39
Not much conversation but she certainly could eat! At the 7-11 stop she indulged a bit too much in buying on me, including cigarettes!.
Mouth action totally forgettable. After the act she fall asleep, but she had been told already that considering her so-so performance she would have got 1500, and she was cool with that. Since another round appeared not to be doable, she was out at 6 am in hot pants, top and stiletto heels. Thing that I don't like a bit, but she had refused to go change dresses before.I don't think she liked you. Didn't you chat her up any in the bar? Sometimes you can tell what kind of service your going to get within 5 seconds. If I don't get at least a smile I move on. Actually you bought dinner and smokes so you did pay more than 1500. She might have moved her ass a little more if you just gave the cash mate.
Question? Why do you care what she's wearing?
Mr Enternational
05-04-16, 23:41
Question? Why do you care what she's wearing?Because it is embarassing walking around not matching each other as well as when she leaves the next day wearing night time club clothes.
Well, after a 15 1/2 non stop flight from JFK to Taipei and connecting from there another 3 hour flight into BKK, it was a long, long day and about 24 hours door to BKK airport. The VT 6 people had set up a taxi guy for me who found rather quickly (and immigration was breeze with no more than 3 minutes after the long walk to the immigration area. However, the poor taxi guy as we were coming down from the escalator starts fishing for his car keys and couldn't find it !
The guy was so confused and shaken and left me to go back up and look again, as it was no where in his pockets or any of the 5 pockets in his pouch / man purse! LOL.
Returns after 15 minutes, could not find it! Then he decides to back go up again and then reappears after another 20 minutes. With the key LOL either from lost and found or one of the other taxi guys behind the cordoned off area where he was standing.
Anyways, hotter than hell at about noon and car (mini van in black!) takes about 10-15 minutes for AC to begin cooling down. Making good progress on the highway to PAttaya and suddenly the traffic backs up to a crawl for the next 30 minutes! Turns out there was an accident in the opposite direction and the car in question had hit the divider wall and was burnt to a black crisp. People slowing down to watch in our direction.
Make it to Pattaya after nearly 2. 5 hours since I cleared customs! Found TT near Soi Diana as recommended here and exchanged USD for 35 baht per USD and no commission.
Check in to VT 6 was also long as there was no one in the lobby to meet me and no Tik to be fOund. Finally after about 20 minutes two of her maids show up by the elevator come to meet and take me to my condo apt. The process then took a while to get the rental phone from them (a Galaxy s 5 new) for only 500 baht for my 16 days. It had just 100 baht on it so I will have to put more dineros in it soon. Spent a lot of time with them getting to know all the stuff about the condo and equipment in the apt.
Wifi working great and apt is super. Lobby area on the 3rd floor is a mess and IMO the set up is dated. But my apt is very very good. Love the location right next to Central Festival mall. Went there and stocked up a ton of stuff from the excellent grocery store for the room and they delivered it for free if you buy a min of 1500 baht.
Ate a late lunch and showered finally and went to sleep. Woke up around 1030 pm shaved, showered again and headed off to Walking Street. My very firSt time and it was quite cool. I got a gyro from the Istanbul guy and it was frickin terrible and after less than 1/2 threw it away (sorry I am from NYC and that was plain shit).
Well, entered IBar around 1245 and really loved it! My first time of course, just wanted to watch, drink and dance by myself for the first night since I am patient guy and I like to develop a strategy for the future as I will be here for 16 nights. Also, went back and forth to insomnia upstairs. Got a 500 Baht VIP card for the 20 PC discount and also ate some CHicken Pad Thai at their NY diner which was quite OK but not as good IMO as the Pad Thai in Queens, NY!
Anyways, danced a lot and went quite crazy towards the end dancing ( lol ) since I'd had neatly 8-10 Cubas ( very light and diluted for 160 baht each ( but about 135 baht each after my 20 PC discount ), and I stayed there until 7 am! Returned and showered alone and went to bed and woke up in an hour! LOL. And maid service coming at 2 pm.
Plan to hit Soi 3 for a hours massage and extras hopefully this pm and will check out 808 and possibly 1-2 other dance clubs maybe. Don't plan to hit any gogos until day 3, until I figure out what talent there is at Ibar and the rest, as I do not care for pros. It was pretty crowded this past night and when they closed Ibar down stairs at 5 am and sent everyone up to Insomnia it was jam jam packed 100 PC and there was some fights and security had to get invovled dragging some big Russian (I think) dude out.
Anyways, I would rate the Ibar talent as mostly mid to upper 20's and early 30's in age for the girls and quality IMO was very average. YMMV. If after day 2 and 3 I don't find quality going up a lot then I think I may have to hit the gogos which is not my preferred option (but maybe the really sexy ones are in there?).
Will post again soon.
Banana Boi
05-05-16, 07:32
Awesome field reports, guys.
FL, can not wait to read your Phuket reports since I will be there in a couple months or sooner.
Haven, if you prefer non-pros Thermae in BKK is more convenient than sifting through Pattaya FLs.
Old New Guy
05-05-16, 08:09
I don't think she liked you. Didn't you chat her up any in the bar? Sometimes you can tell what kind of service your going to get within 5 seconds. If I don't get at least a smile I move on. Actually you bought dinner and smokes so you did pay more than 1500. She might have moved her ass a little more if you just gave the cash mate.
Question? Why do you care what she's wearing?Don't get me wrong. She was smiling, and she moved her ass enough including 10 minutes cowgirl for her to release.
You are right, it take few minutes to judge a bad attitude and split. But I'm spoiled, knowing all the extra-super-good experiences that I had in the past, not just in Thailand doesn't help at times.
Mr. E. said very well on the dressing issue. Some girls are naturally elegant, can dress sexy while staying decent. E. g. Grab one of these veil blouse, change to lower shoes, etc. I do not want any lady to dress like a bank teller.
By the way. I saw what I'll call the "tall trophy doll" yesterday at the red car. Stunner with long jet black hair, wide-apart eyes giving her a even more exotic look. Wrapped in China-like long tube thing, talking to some youngish. If she's resident, who will probe her? She's too tall for me. And I'm not short, just regular.
Old New Guy
05-05-16, 08:57
Well, entered IBar around 1245 and really loved it! My first time of course, just wanted to watch, drink and dance by myself for the first night since I am patient guy and I like to develop a strategy for the future as I will be here for 16 nights. Also, went back and forth to insomnia upstairs. Got a 500 Baht VIP card for the 20 PC discount and also ate some CHicken Pad Thai at their NY diner which was quite OK but not as good IMO as the Pad Thai in Queens, NY!
Anyways, danced a lot and went quite crazy towards the end dancing ( lol ) since I'd had neatly 8-10 Cubas ( very light and diluted for 160 baht each ( but about 135 baht each after my 20 PC discount ), and I stayed there until 7 am! Returned and showered alone and went to bed and woke up in an hour! LOL. And maid service coming at 2 pm.
Welcome back then! Doing after-hour style when just arrived was quite a stunt! Try energy drinks at the 7-11 and a bit of alcohol in the club. I like dancing too but my body or mind failed me yesterday. I was also put off by Marine disco in desolation, that place is surely bottom feeders but the DJ is (at times) better. Red car has a new DJ now playing worst of 2011-12. OMB.
Oh and the good American-Thai band playing in the now ridiculously small Lucifer, what a sad sight. Just to keep a job and lifestyle. Everyone has his ups and down in life.
Uncle Volodya
05-05-16, 11:24
Anyways, I would rate the Ibar talent as mostly mid to upper 20's and early 30's in age for the girls and quality IMO was very average. YMMV. If after day 2 and 3 I don't find quality going up a lot then I think I may have to hit the gogos which is not my preferred option (but maybe the really sexy ones are in there?).
Will post again soon.
Impressive stamina my friend. I went out my first night but could only go till about 3AM. Met one of my regs and took her as a consolation prize I was so damned tired! And I was only coming off a 9hr flight from Moscow.
I am sorry I missed you at Ibar last night. When I got your message (which was blocked because of the inbox) I figured you had gotten delayed in Taipei or something and did not look too hard for you. With the concert last night the place was crowded to the gills with too many dudes pushing and shoving. I am not surprised fights broke out later.
I talked to a couple of girls while I was there. One I thought was with a guy, but we made eye contact and she beckoned me over. I asked her if that was her BF and she said , "No he only want to pay me 3 thousand.". I asked how much she wanted and she said 5K LT! Can you believe that shit? She wasn't even that hot (though had a really nice natural rack).
I did have fun with one of the dancers (dressed in the white angel costumes) I bought her a drink and she really grind on me. We even kissed a bit right at the bar! She really had me going and I was thinking of asking her to go with me. But she said she did not get off work until 5AM and I did not want to wait it out that long. To be honest she was cute, but not all that hot. Maybe I would have waited it out if she was.
I only saw a few stunners. But they were all with guys. One blonde girl in particular at the table right above the staircase that leads upstairs was just smoking. Too bad she was already taken.
I agree that the quality at Ibar seems a bit down this year. As for the real lookers, I keep seeing the same girls over and over again -- it just seems they are getting older. Most of the younger ones there arent all that attractive. Pretty much my same impression as back in January. Where is the new talent?
I bounced a little before 2AM and hit 808. A lot of old chubby chicks. Did not stay long. Then I went downstairs to check out the band at Candy Shop but it was kind of dead there too. A couple of cuties, but they were all with guys.
After a while I decided to hit Red Car. Mostly just to cool off as it was hot and muggy as hell on WS last night. As luck would have it I met a real hottie there. Smoking body nice big silicone boobs on a slim frame. Cute face. Lovely figure. Amazingly smooth skin. After a couple of drinks and some dancing I took her home for 2500 LT. A real tigress in bed. She screamed so hard I thought the neighbors would call the police. We parted at 4Pm today after a couple more round this morning and afternoon. A real find for RC as that place has been going down recently. And to think I really only went in there to cool off and had the lowest expectations of meeting anyone.
Anyhow, I hope you have better luck tonight and that we have a chance to run into each other.
Stay horny my friend!
Uncle-V
Uncle Volodya
05-05-16, 11:32
Welcome back then! Doing after-hour style when just arrived was quite a stunt! Try energy drinks at the 7-11 and a bit of alcohol in the club. I like dancing too but my body or mind failed me yesterday. I was also put off by Marine disco in desolation, that place is surely bottom feeders but the DJ is (at times) better. Red car has a new DJ now playing worst of 2011-12. OMB.
Oh and the good American-Thai band playing in the now ridiculously small Lucifer, what a sad sight. Just to keep a job and lifestyle. Everyone has his ups and down in life.I agree completely!
But there is some good news. Lucifer seems to be undergoing some kind of remodel. So it may be making a comeback. At least that was what the bouncer said when I asked him if the back was open.
We could use a good alternative to Ibar. 808, RC, Mixx, Marine just don't cut it.
Uncle Volodya
05-05-16, 11:55
I saw what I'll call the "tall trophy doll" yesterday at the red car. Stunner with long jet black hair, wide-apart eyes giving her a even more exotic look. Wrapped in China-like long tube thing, talking to some youngish. If she's resident, who will probe her? She's too tall for me. And I'm not short, just regular.Fucking hell. She sounds amazing! She certainly was not there last night after 2 AM. Maybe she got snapped up by some lucky SOB? A lot of guys were out last night it seemed.
I will be on the lookout for her. Though I prefer my ladies petite.
There is a girl that sounds just like her at What's Up. She is one of the models that does the shows. A real stunner. But I am sure she'd cost a fortune. And no guarantee of GFE.
BTW: IMHO there are some serious lookers at What's Up these days. 3 or 4 of the models are just stunning. And from the regular girls numbers 26, 28 and 48 are gorgeous too.
But prices are steep. I was quoted 1500 BF and 3K ST, 5K LT by #48. And for LT she said she only would stay till 6AM!. Outrageous. I did not even counter offer.
LittleBigMan
05-05-16, 13:31
I agree completely!
But there is some good news. Lucifer seems to be undergoing some kind of remodel. So it may be making a comeback. At least that was what the bouncer said when I asked him if the back was open.
We could use a good alternative to Ibar. 808, RC, Mixx, Marine just don't cut it.I wouldn't hold my breath on this one. Maybe the bouncer is the same guy that got them closed down two years ago for beating or roughing up a patron. If my memory serves me right they were the first place to be closed down 2 months when Martial Law was declared and there was a curfew? As noted in prior discussion on this topic the crowd and band moved to 808, prior to Lucifer closer 808 was the place that look like Lucifer. During the closure they said they were going to do some renovation or remodel when it reopened nothing was ever done, what you see now has been like that for a long time.
LittleBigMan
05-05-16, 13:34
I agree completely!
But there is some good news. Lucifer seems to be undergoing some kind of remodel. So it may be making a comeback. At least that was what the bouncer said when I asked him if the back was open.
We could use a good alternative to Ibar. 808, RC, Mixx, Marine just don't cut it.I wouldn't hold my breath on this one. Maybe the bouncer is the same guy that got them closed down two years ago for beating or roughing up a patron. If my memory serves me right they were the first place to be closed down 2 months when Martial Law was declared and there was a curfew? As noted in prior discussion on this topic the crowd and band moved to 808, prior to Lucifer closer 808 was the place that look like Lucifer. During the closure they said they were going to do some renovation or remodel when it reopened nothing was ever done, what you see now has been like that for a long time.
Personally, it looks like one of those places where the owner or owners have more money than brains. Right now the only money being made and the only crowd is coming from the magician out front.
Uncle Volodya
05-05-16, 14:18
I wouldn't hold my breath on this one. Maybe the bouncer is the same guy that got them closed down two years ago for beating or roughing up a patron. If my memory serves me right they were the first place to be closed down 2 months when Martial Law was declared and there was a curfew? As noted in prior discussion on this topic the crowd and band moved to 808, prior to Lucifer closer 808 was the place that look like Lucifer. During the closure they said they were going to do some renovation or remodel when it reopened nothing was ever done, what you see now has been like that for a long time.
Personally, it looks like one of those places where the owner or owners have more money than brains. Right now the only money being made and the only crowd is coming from the magician out front.Thanks I did not realize it was the same band now at 808. To be honest I don't really pay all that much attention to these things as I am usually looking to see what the ladies look like.
If 808 is any indication of what kind of ladies they would be no great loss though.
Last time I was here in January I think I remember going back there to check if the disco was open and it being totally empty, but the lights still on. Very weird.
Sad to see this happen as I remember picking up a few real hotties there years ago.
Mr Enternational
05-05-16, 14:30
Oh and the good American-Thai band playing in the now ridiculously small Lucifer, what a sad sight. Just to keep a job and lifestyle. Everyone has his ups and down in life.I don't know why Christian keeps Lucifer open. It didn't make much sense in the first place to open a disco (808) of the same genre to compete with another disco you own on the same street.
Naked Gunz
05-05-16, 15:44
Because it is embarassing walking around not matching each other as well as when she leaves the next day wearing night time club clothes.Who the fuck is walking around with her the next day! It's a paid shag, not a marriage. I sleep until noon at least usually. She can wear and leave in whatever she has on.
Mr Enternational
05-05-16, 16:43
Who the fuck is walking around with her the next day! It's a paid shag, not a marriage. I sleep until noon at least usually. She can wear and leave in whatever she has on.Different strokes. Some people do not want hookers leaving their building in front of their neighbors in club clothes the next day. There are others who like to go to breakfast with the girl and hang out with her the next day. Usually when we go to Koh Larn we will find chicks at the disco the night before. Before going to the crib we will stop by the girls' rooms for them to change out of their club clothes and get their things for the next day. Not all mongers are pump and dump. For you it is a paid shag. For others it may be GFE.
Uncle Volodya
05-05-16, 17:16
Different strokes. Some people do not want hookers leaving their building in front of their neighbors in club clothes the next day. There are others who like to go to breakfast with the girl and hang out with her the next day. Usually when we go to Koh Larn we will find chicks at the disco the night before. Before going to the crib we will stop by the girls' rooms for them to change out of their club clothes and get their things for the next day. Not all mongers are pump and dump. For you it is a paid shag. For others it may be GFE.Well said!
I like your soft cuddly side Mr. E. .
555.
Well said!
I like your soft cuddly side Mr. E. .
555.Don't be fooled,. I doubt Mr ENT is all that soft. And very much doubt that he is not all muscle! LOL. I very much doubt that the girls like him for his soft, cuddly side either. Haha.
Usually when we go to Koh Larn we will find chicks at the disco the night before. Before going to the crib we will stop by the girls' rooms for them to change out of their club clothes and get their things for the next day.What do you do if the girl lives 20 minutes away and you've had a few drinks?
Mr Enternational
05-05-16, 19:33
What do you do if the girl lives 20 minutes away and you've had a few drinks?No idea. That is an extremely rare case. Most of the chicks I meet live in Naklua or Jomtien at the worst. In the past 6 years I have probably met only 2 hookers that lived down Sukhumvit somewhere.
Hi,
Can someone list out decent hotels near walking Street / beach road that do not charge joining fees for girls?
SirWilliam4
05-06-16, 02:08
Hi,
Can someone list out decent hotels near walking Street / beach road that do not charge joining fees for girls?Egad, man. Have you done any research in this forum at all? We're a pretty friendly bunch here -- and we're always happy to help people that need a little assistance. But, it is far better if you first do a bit to help yourself and then ask for help. Everything you are asking is readily available in this forum and can be found in five minutes or less.
SW4.
FunExplorer
05-06-16, 07:16
Hi,
Can someone list out decent hotels near walking Street / beach road that do not charge joining fees for girls?Apparently, you have not done any reading of the form at all. There is wealth of information in this form and there is a separate.
Form on Pattaya Hotels which gives all the more information you need. For your information, all hotels are girl friendly and some of them may have a joiner fee but in general that is not the case.
Wolvenvacht
05-06-16, 07:51
Hi,
Can someone list out decent hotels near walking Street / beach road that do not charge joining fees for girls?You mean like a list of almost all hotels there?
If in doubt, just email the hotel and ask.
Old New Guy
05-06-16, 11:23
I must say that the Insomnia setup is by far where the best lookers hang out consistently. In the past I had despised it because of a certain stuck-up general attitude, bouncers frisking my privates, etc, but now it seems to be better. Banning of shisha is a big improvement also. It remains a place for the younger crowd, but who cares after all, this is Thailand.
While checking for the gents in title, a friendly petite standing near the restroom upstairs attracts my attention. Her name sounds like an hiccup while grinding teeth, which must be a very nice name in Isaan. Below we're pictured at the peak of our short lived romance.
When I've meet the guys not much talk was possible so they were spared my great Thai spins, like Som the lost nymphomaniac, accidents after declining to buy Buddha amulets, secret Pad Thai locations, etc. Will be for the next time when returning the drinks I owe.
At one point Uncle V. Makes a magical gesture and a beauty appears by his arm! I can only describe her as an impressive set of dangerous curves supporting the classical beauty of her face. H123 on the other hand seemed to be pondering the situation under all possible aspects, which is always a good thing.
Short after while I left with the miss, during which time she kept saying that she remembers me, thing that just can't be. I was almost afraid she entered a drunk loop, however one ice-cream and pack of cigs (promised myself it was the last time that I buy) later, we reached the room and things were good enough at the beginning, she can sure suck good, her body isn't really a turn-on but that much I knew.
Moved to doggy, however I was quick to release not wanting to reverse the initial flow of fluids and expecting more for later. At that point she took the quickest of runs, "No do LT", "I support mom & pop", and other worn-out bullshit. I really regretted not having made a firm and clear negotiation before. It is simply too risky to not make one with today's FLs, no matter how friendly and easy going they appear to be.
Damage 1,000 plus 100 taxi, but she expected even more! Told her she was lucky me being a gentleman and it ended there as normally happens when they know to have wronged someone.
Not giving a damn about that, and not being sleepy I took another trip to WS around 5 am, checked couple of places, not seeing anything of my liking and not wanting to be unlucky again with the leftovers I wrote off the night for a good sleep.
Be careful guys! It seems not to be anymore a matter of how much you pay, but of what, in the end, you'll get!
Hi,
Can someone list out decent hotels near walking Street / beach road that do not charge joining fees for girls?There are too many choices available. Do you want to be right on WS or be more centrally located? You want cheap, middle of the road, or high end accommodations? Read the Pattaya Hotel forum. Get an idea of what you want, then we can offer advice.
Uncle Volodya
05-06-16, 12:16
I must say that the Insomnia setup is by far where the best lookers hang out consistently. In the past I had despised it because of a certain stuck-up general attitude, bouncers frisking my privates, etc, but now it seems to be better. Banning of shisha is a big improvement also. It remains a place for the younger crowd, but who cares after all, this is Thailand.
While checking for the gents in title, a friendly petite standing near the restroom upstairs attracts my attention. Her name sounds like an hiccup while grinding teeth, which must be a very nice name in Isaan. Below we're pictured at the peak of our short lived romance.
When I've meet the guys not much talk was possible so they were spared my great Thai spins, like Som the lost nymphomaniac, accidents after declining to buy Buddha amulets, secret Pad Thai locations, etc. Will be for the next time when returning the drinks I owe.
At one point Uncle V. Makes a magical gesture and a beauty appears by his arm! I can only describe her as an impressive set of dangerous curves supporting the classical beauty of her face. H123 on the other hand seemed to be pondering the situation under all possible aspects, which is always a good thing.
It was great to meet you, even ever so briefly last night. I am sorry that we didn't have chance to really talk. I would love to hear you spin your yarns and to learn more about Some the lost nympho. 5555.
Sorry about the runner. I thought that Hiccup was super cute and I would also be seriously in danger of falling for the same trap. But at least you had sense enough to get your rocks off. I have done much worse in the past. And 1100 baht is not all that bad.
I am glad you liked my girl. No magic there. LOL. She is the girl from the night before that I found at RC. We left at about 4 and had another amazing marathon session. She left at about 5 PM today. Leaving me drained of all fluids and famished.
I am trying to get a hold of an old flame who is back in town tonight. But if that doesn't pan out I will be at Ibar. Probably late. And looking to make new acquaintances.
I will drop you and Haven a line if I go that route.
Stay horny my friend.
Uncle-V.
Christian G
05-06-16, 13:10
Hi,
Can someone list out decent hotels near walking Street / beach road that do not charge joining fees for girls?Ask your question in the right thread http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1875-Pattaya-Hotels.
Got my vacation approved today. I will be in LOS after 4 years for a week. It will be long flight from NY but I know its worth the effort. Already started reading the forum pages looks like things are changed now. Lot of new options and new ways of mongering are available.
Will be in touch on the forum.
Cheers!
I must say that the Insomnia setup is by far where the best lookers hang out consistently. In the past I had despised it because of a certain stuck-up general attitude, bouncers frisking my privates, etc, but now it seems to be better. Banning of shisha is a big improvement also. It remains a place for the younger crowd, but who cares after all, this is Thailand.
While checking for the gents in title, a friendly petite standing near the restroom upstairs attracts my attention. Her name sounds like an hiccup while grinding teeth, which must be a very nice name in Isaan. Below we're pictured at the peak of our short lived romance.
When I've meet the guys not much talk was possible so they were spared my great Thai spins, like Som the lost nymphomaniac, accidents after declining to buy Buddha amulets, secret Pad Thai locations, etc. Will be for the next time when returning the drinks I owe.
At one point Uncle V. Makes a magical gesture and a beauty appears by his arm! I can only describe her as an impressive set of dangerous curves supporting the classical beauty of her face. H123 on the other hand seemed to be pondering the situation under all possible aspects, which is always a good thing.
Short after while I left with the miss, during which time she kept saying that she remembers me, thing that just can't be. I was almost afraid she entered a drunk loop, however one ice-cream and pack of cigs (promised myself it was the last time that I buy) later, we reached the room and things were good enough at the beginning, she can sure suck good, her body isn't really a turn-on but that much I knew.
Moved to doggy, however I was quick to release not wanting to reverse the initial flow of fluids and expecting more for later. At that point she took the quickest of runs, "No do LT", "I support mom & pop", and other worn-out bullshit. I really regretted not having made a firm and clear negotiation before. It is simply too risky to not make one with today's FLs, no matter how friendly and easy going they appear to be.
Damage 1,000 plus 100 taxi, but she expected even more! Told her she was lucky me being a gentleman and it ended there as normally happens when they know to have wronged someone.
Not giving a damn about that, and not being sleepy I took another trip to WS around 5 am, checked couple of places, not seeing anything of my liking and not wanting to be unlucky again with the leftovers I wrote off the night for a good sleep.
Be careful guys! It seems not to be anymore a matter of how much you pay, but of what, in the end, you'll get!1. I agree with your conclusion about me! Sad to say, I admit that you are quite right! I am having a bit of tough time finding someone I like with my preferences for the girls age range age range, body type (don't care for flattish ass) , nice face, good teeth (BTW the best teeth I have seen in Asia is Korean girls) and bubbly personality. And, yesh I would agree with everyone who says that is tall order, if not nearly impossible request. But, I am willing to pay for it. So, that is a ***.
2. BTW, I was super impressed seeing you get up the raised stage at Insomnia and dance there. You are one cool dude. BTW, do you think Uncle V knows how to dance? LOL! ROFLMAO! But, we do know he does score every day and every night, so yeah Uncle V does indeed ' stay horny my friends '.
3. BTW, you write well ONG, but in Ibar with the music and the crowd I have a tough time understanding your accent. Sorry man! I suppose you could say the same thing about me in return?
4. I like to dance and just be happy. Probably more so than anyone you've probably met here in Pattaya? LOL. And I like to be unencumbered and on 2 nights now, I have waited too long. Like after 6 am to make a decision. Yeah, I am a dumb mutherfukka. I am unfortunately still stuck on the chicas in Latin America, as I prefer their features and body style, and I am definitely a semi pro / non pro guy and totally dislike having to talk money ahead of time. I know that is dumb! But, hey that's me and I really do like chatting with a girl for months before I arrive (not one single girl from Thai Freindly even replied to my initial text and now since I am already here and have about 2. 5 more weeks to go, I have zero interest in starting that path now.
5. I think I'd like to find a hot 18-23 age range girl (and an 8 or a 9 on a 1-10 scale) who loves to dance until the wee hours, probably from a Walking Street gogo (because I suspect that might be my only choice right now LOL), starting at about midnight and willing to stay until 3 pm with me. I have no idea how much that would cost, but based on what I've seen here and heard from Uncle V my guess is 1500 baht barfine, plus 5 k for my time and dance time (until at least 6 am at Ibar / Insomnia) requests? And, I am fine with that, probably not for every night, but a few nights for sure and see how it goes, I Yeah, I agree that given everything I said above a Gogo girl makes no sense. But at least they may have decent looks, be good hot dancers. Who knows? The problem with me is that I am super, super picky and super, super stupid and slow to pull the trigger always finding some reason in my mind to say: " ahh no, let's find something better " and I have not until now in Pattaya. But, I do succeed on my terms in Peru, Brazil, the DR etc. Unfortunately, it has not worked for me in the first few days, but I still have 18 nights to go, so I am still optimistic. Since I don't work really and spend about 50 percent of my days in Latin Amreica (now for about the last 2 1/2 years) , I am not in any great hurry and unwilling to compromise on what I am looking for. And, yes, you and everyone else would be 100 PC correct to say, I am dumb, stupid, crazy, very hard to please, etc etc. But, Unfortunately that is who I am and I am happy with myself.
BTW, Uncke V, I am still waiting to hear back from the company (through Dancewatchers) of a price for a RT taxi to the Sanctuary of Truth. Since, I will be paying, either or both of you, are welcome to a ride back and forth to the place (which I believe is about 15-20 km away from where I am near Central Festival and VT 6).
Uncle Volodya
05-07-16, 10:51
5. I think I'd like to find a hot 18-23 age range girl (and an 8 or a 9 on a 1-10 scale) who loves to dance until the wee hours, probably from a Walking Street gogo (because I suspect that might be my only choice right now LOL), starting at about midnight and willing to stay until 3 pm with me. I have no idea how much that would cost, but based on what I've seen here and heard from Uncle V my guess is 1500 baht barfine, plus 5 k for my time and dance time (until at least 6 am at Ibar / Insomnia) requests? And, I am fine with that, probably not for every night, but a few nights for sure and see how it goes, I Yeah, I agree that given everything I said above a Gogo girl makes no sense. But at least they may have decent looks, be good hot dancers. Who knows? The problem with me is that I am super, super picky and super, super stupid and slow to pull the trigger always finding some reason in my mind to say: " ahh no, let's find something better " and I have not until now in Pattaya. But, I do succeed on my terms in Peru, Brazil, the DR etc. Unfortunately, it has not worked for me in the first few days, but I still have 18 nights to go, so I am still optimistic. Since I don't work really and spend about 50 percent of my days in Latin Amreica (now for about the last 2 1/2 years) , I am not in any great hurry and unwilling to compromise on what I am looking for. And, yes, you and everyone else would be 100 PC correct to say, I am dumb, stupid, crazy, very hard to please, etc etc. But, Unfortunately that is who I am and I am happy with myself.Fuck man! And I thought I was picky. 555.
Just curious, what did you think of the girl I hooked up with last night? She was 21, firm, nice ass, pretty face. At least IMHO.
In any case you are a great guy and should always do what makes YOU happy. I believe you will eventually find your girl. If you are willing to spend What's up gogo may be your place. But do negotiate everything up front. Especially the time you want her to spend with you.
Old New Guy
05-07-16, 12:14
Writing these reports is becoming a refreshing time-killer, as it brings me back to the sharing habits of my unspoiled monger past, continuing in the tradition of 4 or 5 different screen names and some 20 countries visited over many years already. Even if this is abot Pattaya, something that any serious monger should consider no more than a continued-education play sandbox.
So, I worked Ibar with the boys from 1:30 to 4 am, which is a long time for me, I'm happy to have found other disco-lover punters, because as strange it may seem, we are just a minority in this hobby. Only negative with the location was the bouncer had to say about the mini-maglite in my keyfob (It's true one can't fix stupidity), and that it was stupidly crowded especially upstairs.
Situation was quite normal with the major ass-pieces already taken, or walking in as having a broom up in the ass, possibly because of recent insertion of other long objects.
We did our thing very casually until UV entered close contact with a pretty girl in pink. Since she was tow-trailed by a pair of teeth-braced girls, I took evasive action, as I positively avoid group engagement in clubs unless there is a distinct hint that it will progress to an orgy.
I was kind of looking for a high school like fetish of mine, that is a cougarish sex-deprived, classy and good looking older lady. Since none with the full set of attributes was to be found, I worked on rebuilding my dancefloor energy, after a long hiatus.
H123 noticed this and encouraged with a distant nodding of his basecap, unfortunately my moves didn't caused any lady to beg for my company, so I left around the same time UV was in a conundrum about the candy bar girl, and H123 was immersing himself in the profound considerations he has exposed before, as well in a number of Cuba Libre.
BTW H123, the main reason we didn't communicated at the club is because I didn't really tried (smile), so don't worry. I gave up on that decades ago. I hate to be yelling and spraying saliva to strangers just to convey a poor approximation of what I wanted to say.
Next destination for me was Marine Disco, which I believe to be epitome of the decadent Thai Hooker's disco. One can still find some women that catered to Vietnam servicemen there, Katoyes that won't fool a blind, and other rarities. But as we know, the universe must renew itself all the time by bringing in fresh pussy where you do not expect it. And in fact I had various good catches at Marine. So after some rote ass shaking I moved to chatup Trung, a nice petite in white, without much English.
Her demand of 1500 for LT was reasonable, she had good manners, no tattoos, didn't smoke, dressed decently, nice legs, at that point with a number of positive signals I took her home, it turned out to be a good choice. She stopped at 7-11 to buy something with her money (another positive there), then I bought a snack meal for the both of us.
She's still a nice (could use some make-up tough) young woman (around 30) with a very quiet attitude. Her traits are a bit "hard", reminds me of Khmer ethnics, but are catching at the same time. And nothing is wrong with her small body really. It's easy to perceive that plying the nightlife is not what she wanted, but it's what is working for her now. There are surely thousands like her, problem is that it's difficult to tell them apart within the general craziness.
We had a good time in bed, she's not a tigress but likes long cowgirl rides and for sure can take intense poundings. Mouth action to be improved but OK. Anal stimulation and entry are not be a problem, but I've postponed that enjoyment for a later time, as she shyly suggested also.
We slept a little between rounds and she left around 10, I think she would have got no problem in staying longer for a small incentive, but I've found that I rest even better alone in the late morning.
Will probably repeat with her, even if limited to bedroom company.
Uncle Volodya
05-07-16, 12:37
Writing these reports is becoming a refreshing time-killer, as it brings me back to the sharing habits of my unspoiled monger past, continuing in the tradition of 4 or 5 different screen names and some 20 countries visited over many years already. Even if this is abot Pattaya, something that any serious monger should consider no more than a continued-education play sandbox.
Nothing new in that, we worked the Ibar with the boys from 1:30 to 4 am, which is a long time for me, I'm happy to have found other disco-lover punters, because as strange it may seem, we are just a minority in this hobby. Only negative with the location was the bouncer had to say about the mini-maglite in my keyfob (It's true one can't fix stupidity), and that it was stupidly crowded especially upstairs.
Situation was quite normal with the major ass-pieces already taken, or walking in as having a broom up in the ass, possibly because of recent insertion of other long objects.
We did our thing with the boys until UV entered close contact with a pretty girl in pink. Since she was tow-trailed by a pair of teeth-braced girls, I took evasive action, as I try to avoid group engagement in clubs unless there is a distinct hint that it will progress to an orgy.
I was kind of looking for a high school like fetish of mine, that is a cougarish sex-deprived, classy and good looking older lady. Since none with the full set of attributes was to be found, I worked on rebuilding my dancefloor energy, after a long hiatus.
H123 noticed this and encouraged with a distant nodding of his basecap, unfortunately my moves didn't caused any lady to beg for my company, so I left around the same time UV was in a conundrum about the candy bar girl, and H123 was immersing himself in the profound considerations he has exposed before, as well in a number of Cuba Libre.
BTW H123, the main reason we didn't communicated at the club is because I didn't really tried (smile), so don't worry. I gave up on that decades ago. I hate to be yelling and spraying saliva to strangers just to convey a poor approximation of what I wanted to say.
Next destination for me was Marine Disco, which I believe to be epitome of the decadent Thai Hooker's disco. One can still find some women that catered to Vietnam servicemen there, Katoyes that won't fool a blind, and other rarities. But as we know, the universe must renew itself all the time by bringing in fresh pussy where you do not expect it. And in fact I had various good catches at Marine. So after some rote ass shaking I moved to chatup Trung, a nice petite in white, without much English.
Her demand of 1500 for LT was reasonable, she had good manners, no tattoos, didn't smoke, dressed decently, nice legs, at that point with a number of positive signals I took her home, it turned out to be a good choice. She stops at 7-11 to buy something with her money (another positive there), I then bought a snack meal for the both of us.
She's still a nice (could use some make-up tough) young woman (around 30) with a very quiet attitude. Her traits are a bit "hard", reminds me of Khmer ethnics, but are catching at the same time. And nothing is wrong with her small body really. It's easy to perceive that the nightlife is not what she really wanted to, but it's what is working for her now. There are surely thousands like her, problem is that it's difficult to tell them apart within the general craziness.
We had a good time in bed, she's not a tigress but likes long cowgirl rides and for sure can take intense poundings. Mouth action to be improved but OK. Anal stimulation and entry are not be a problem, but I've postponed that enjoyment for a later time, as she shyly suggested also.
She slept a little between rounds and left around 10, I think she would have got no problem in staying longer for a small incentive, but I've found that I rest even better alone in the late morning.
Will probably repeat with her, even if limited to bedroom company.I love your prose man. I wish it wasn't so damned loud in Ibar as I think we could pass the time enjoyably in conversation as we browsed through the goods on offer.
I'm glad your perseverance paid off! At Marine no less. I don't think I have been there in years as it is such a late late night spot. 1500 sounds pretty damned reasonable too.
Yes, I went against my better judgement, but I was rewarded with a pretty good experience from Candy Girl. I really lucked out. This will only encourage more risk taking -- which is sure to eventually end in disaster. But as you said. You'll never know unless you try!
To be honest I hate clubs when they are that crowded and I just wanted to get the hell out of there with something to show for it.
I felt bad that I didn't do mor eto facilitate you guys hooking up with Candy Girl's friends. But now I understand that you guys wanted to extricate yourselves form that situation. So fucking hard to communicate in that environment. I know now what the boys n the trenches felt like during the battle of Verdun. 555
Candy Girl! So funny you called her that as I had some American candy that I gave her that I had originally brought for another friend I won't get to meet up with this trip. 555.
Mr Enternational
05-07-16, 17:17
I like with my preferences for the girls age range age range, body type (don't care for flattish ass)Sounds like a visit to 808 and Flexx is in order.
But, hey that's me and I really do like chatting with a girl for months before I arrive (not one single girl from Thai Freindly even replied to my initial text and now since I am already here and have about 2. 5 more weeks to go, I have zero interest in starting that path now.Giving away my secrets now. Have you tried Badoo or Tagged?
but I still have 18 nights to go, so I am still optimistic. Since I don't work really and spend about 50 percent of my days in Latin Amreica (now for about the last 2 1/2 years) , I am not in any great hurry and unwilling to compromise on what I am looking for. And, yes, you and everyone else would be 100 PC correct to say, I am dumb, stupid, crazy, very hard to please, etc etc. But, Unfortunately that is who I am and I am happy with myself.Well while you are waiting for Miss Right to come along, why not get a Miss Right Now? I'm in the market for a 1972 Cutlass Supreme convertible, but until I can find that mf I will still drive around in this 2003 Toyota Corolla. Walking is not an option for me. Go with what you got until you can get what you want. It is not like you are finding a wife and are only allowed to fuck 1 girl for your entire stay in Pattaya. It is not like your gun only has one bullet and you must choose wisely which bandit to shoot. It may sound like a lot of time, but 18 days will go by quick.
I want to visit Thailand but am worried about the quality of the ladies. What are the chances of getting anal with a hottie? For a long time service I don't want to spend more than about 8,000 baht in total.
Otherwise I will go to Germany and continue to do Romanian girls up the butt. LOL.
I want to visit Thailand but am worried about the quality of the ladies. What are the chances of getting anal with a hottie? For a long time service I don't want to spend more than about 8,000 baht in total.
Otherwise I will go to Germany and continue to do Romanian girls up the butt. LOL.I found it difficult to get anal in Thailand. That said, I did butt fuck a girl going by "Nana" on my first day in Bangkok. She was working at Snow White at the time. Other than that, it was slim pickings! I'm sure that if you're there long enough you could probably build up a roster of "anal tutes". But as a tourist the challenge is harder. Also, I think if you're willing to lower your standards in Thailand, then you might be able to source more anal. I stopped in on several of he PSE oilies, but the women were so ugly that I never could have gotten it up for any of them, so I just turned around and walked out. If you need a lot of anal on the menu, then I say stick to the FKKs where I fuck 40% of the girls I choose nuts deep up the butt. And even better than that is Brazil where my LAA (Lifetime Anal Average) is 70%!
So, finally, at Ibar (upstairs at Insomnia) I find this girl from Isaan, at about 6 am (hanging with a friend of hers and she seemed genuine and nice) and who I think is cool. I ask her if she wants to come with me, and then I ask how much. She says you tell me. I say 1500 LT, she says 3000 and we agree on 2000.
It's now 7 am and we leave and on a motorcycle taxi back to VT 6 and she is like really fun the whole time like she was enjoying the ride. I had said Central Festival to the guy because everyone knows that. The girl as we arrive says View Talay. So, obviously she has been there a few times before. I give the taxi guy his 100 as agreed and she says something to him and tips him 20 baht.
We go to elevator and check in with her ID. Up to my floor, and as she was walking to the room, she says she might throw up,. And I said no can do in the room. And she asks why not? I say because. And stop. And she asks because why? And I say because it is not my place. She even asked as we were in the elevator, how long I was going to be around and I told her the date.
So, now, she does something strange and acts and pretends like she is throwing up as are maybe 4 doors from my apt. She actually pretends like she is putting a finger down her throat and then grabs my shirt and pretends like she is throwing up. Very teenager like, but obviously a Pattaya farang experienced girl. I said look if you throw up in my apt, I won't pay.
So, she says ok she is a leaving and turn around right there in the hallway and leaves. Ok, she is cool chick (or so I thought) and think she is still pretending, because the whole time it was like a total act and where I thought she was actually trying to be funny. So, I give it a few seconds and I think she will return. Well, she actually takes the elevator back down and leaves! I wonder if the whole thing is an act. And then go down like in 2 minutes to check and the security guy at the elevator says, lady go.
So, this whole episode from the elevator lobby to her leaving before we even get to my apt, happens like in about 90 secs fiat.
Of course, she never gets to my apt and I don't pay her anything, except as I was leaving I give her friend 40 baht for her moto taxi without even asking! And a few drinks, maybe 4 total at Insomnia.
So, it was a strange thing and unlike nothing I have experienced before, but I was firm about not throwing up, because I had read about such tricks before. Later, I wondered if the 20 baht tip to moto taxi guy and whatever she said to him, when she tipped him, was also a request to him to hang around as she would be back soon. That's just my wild guess, of course, he was a random driver outside Ibar.
Anyways, that was a strange experience indeed, and I am actually smiling at the whole thing at 815 am as I write, because it was one for the life story that I will not forget.
But, thankfully I did not have to deal with this after she entered my room.
She was actually a cute chick and somewhat young, definitely no more than 23. Probably had some Japanese blood in her. My guess. Wore her hat backwards and was dressed very NY ish in terms of her clothing attitude. Quite slim, young and cute. Her friend was also quite nice. So, it was one strange experience.
Btw, no worries....I am NOT the type to ever be deterred or forlorn about stuff like this. Because, statistically this is quite a rare event and tomorrow is a new day / night. But, I thought this story was one for the ages. Because, she could have come to the apt and then soon thereafter tried to leave with some baht by saying she was unwell and had to leave. So, I was surprised that she actually passed up making any money whatsoever. So, that's what I found strange....
So, finally, at Ibar (upstairs at Insomnia) I find this girl from Isaan, at about 6 am (hanging with a friend of hers and she seemed genuine and nice) and who I think is cool. I ask her if she wants to come with me, and then I ask how much. She says you tell me. I say 1500 LT, she says 3000 and we agree on 2000.
It's now 7 am and we leave and on a motorcycle taxi back to VT 6 and she is like really fun the whole time like she was enjoying the ride. How long does a girl stay when she does LT at 7 in the morning? LT is usually 8 to 12 hours (if not a bit more), would the girl stay until 8 pm?
How long does a girl stay when she does LT at 7 in the morning? LT is usually 8 to 12 hours (if not a bit more), would the girl stay until 8 pm?Is that question? Or are you trying to point something out, suggesting I missed to clarify ahead of time? Frankly, at this point given what happened, I don't think it matters. However, if things had gone well, I'd have been fine with say 1 or 2 pm. And, if she'd been good and said she would prefer to change to ST, I would never have tried to chamge her mind. I always prefer to know a girls feelings rather than not. And just, BTW, the way I operate, I always (if things go well) , underpromise and overdeliver, or UPOD for short.
And, when need be I will pay and summarily dismiss them. This is usually a less than 5 PC occurrence. I am a hard core stats guy (and that's one of my Masters degrees) and I remember practically everything in terms of numbers. So, I submit to you that I knew exactly what I was doing and why. With me, it's always a test, since I am never ever looking for a one time thingy. But of course, they end being that way about 90 PC of the time. But, if your sample size is large enough, then 10 PC of keepers could be say 30-50 for me over the past couple of years.
I was quite good at stats, testing people, etc, in my professional life (both managing up and managing down) , from during budget and P & L forecasting and committing time for the next year,. And so it has been for me outside of my professional life. I'm not new at this with girls or negotiating with the Japanese, Chinese, Germans or whoever. I started to learn at very young age, with fantastic mentors / teachers and generally have a pretty good batting average, or in business stats lingo, ' hit ratio ', with over 20 plus years of managing an international business and a billion dollar P & L. UPOD has worked well for me.
I often leave things very open ended in the beginning. Because it matters little to me that if something does not work out 2000-3000 baht is not even a rounding error in a years worth of my life.
I always want to see if the girl has promise and whether she will also overdeliver in attitude and spirit. And if there is something there. No, I'm not looking for a GF or a wife or anything. It's just that I am not one who looks to do a different girl everyday or many in a day. I always have preferred quality over quantity.
I'd say something like this for me is a way under 1% thing. Probably a tenth of a percent. But for me, it was an epic fail....on my part. Results count and the rest is BS.
Mr Enternational
05-08-16, 04:06
How long does a girl stay when she does LT at 7 in the morning? LT is usually 8 to 12 hours (if not a bit more), would the girl stay until 8 pm?That would depend on the girl. Some have more to do than just stay under a monger. I know Pipelayer will get a chick for LT at 7 am and she will stay with him for days. But some chicks even have jobs that they have to go to. So to really put a time on what LT is. It would be better to ask the girl how long she can or will stay instead of the agreeing to the indefinite LT.
Is that question? Or are you trying to point something out, suggesting I missed to clarify ahead of time? Just curious. I was imagining a girl at a club at 6 am would be wanting to get some sleep right about 7 am (possibly why she booked). What I like about LT is having the girl for numerous rounds of fucking. What I hate about LT is that you miss out on the nightlife. Maybe the answer is to take a girl LT, stay at a hotel close to the action and bar hop with the occasional run to your hotel for a fuck.
Mr Enternational
05-08-16, 05:32
So, finally, at Ibar (upstairs at Insomnia) I find this girl from Isaan, at about 6 am (hanging with a friend of hers and she seemed genuine and nice) and who I think is cool. I ask her if she wants to come with me, and then I ask how much. She says you tell me. I say 1500 LT, she says 3000 and we agree on 2000.
We go to elevator and check in with her ID. Up to my floor, and as she was walking to the room, she says she might throw up,. And I said no can do in the room. And she asks why not? I say because. And stop. And she asks because why? And I say because it is not my place. She even asked as we were in the elevator, how long I was going to be around and I told her the date.
So, now, she does something strange and acts and pretends like she is throwing up as are maybe 4 doors from my apt. She actually pretends like she is putting a finger down her throat and then grabs my shirt and pretends like she is throwing up. Very teenager like, but obviously a Pattaya farang experienced girl. I said look if you throw up in my apt, I won't pay.
So, she says ok she is a leaving and turn around right there in the hallway and leaves.*
So, I was surprised that she actually passed up making any money whatsoever. So, that's what I found strange....Not strange at all. It is not always about the money as many may think. Thais like to play and joke around as you said like teenagers. My take is that when you did not play along with her she saw you as being too serious of a person and no fun. So she decided it was best to take her ass home.
Also, it is better to get a chick earlier because the later it gets, the longer they have been drinking. Thai women are hard enough to handle when sober. That is the disadvantage of trying to stay out at the discos all night.
I would say not to be so stern with them. I used to date a taxi driver from Bangkok and she broke up with me because she said I was too stern. I am really not, but I guess it is just the tone of my voice sometimes that could make her think that. Still not understanding why you would not let the girl throw up if she was sick though? Did you suspect she was going to throw up all over the place and not in the toilet or sink?
Not strange at all. It is not always about the money as many may think. Thais like to play and joke around as you said like teenagers. My take is that when you did not play along with her she saw you as being too serious of a person and no fun. So she decided it was best to take her ass home.
Also, it is better to get a chick earlier because the later it gets, the longer they have been drinking. Thai women are hard enough to handle when sober. That is the disadvantage of trying to stay out at the discos all night.
I would say not to be so stern with them. I used to date a taxi driver from Bangkok and she broke up with me because she said I was too stern. I am really not, but I guess it is just the tone of my voice sometimes that could make her think that. Still not understanding why you would not let the girl throw up if she was sick though? Did you suspect she was going to throw up all over the place and not in the toilet or sink?1. I suspect you are right about my tone being perceived as being too stern. I'd say that she was maybe playing around. Which is what I thought initially. But, her grabbing my shirt and acting it out the throwing up part kinda surprised me and took me aback. So, you may be quite right in terms of her perception of how I handled that possible playfulness on her part. But, I don't know for sure. I'd actually bought 2 SM's for her and her friend at Insomnia right about 650 am and she brought 75 PC of hers out and 100 PC of her friend's San Miguel (which is still sitting in the fridge as I don't drink or keep any alcohol here in my apt or at my place, any longer, back home), and which I held the full one in my hand while we were both on the m taxi!
2. Re throwing up, I just did not think she was that drunk. And if indeed she was to a point where she would need to throw up, it would be a huge turn off for me and it would have resulted in zero action on my part in bed. So, given that, maybe if she was indeed going to throw up, her leaving was probably best for both of us. I myself have only thrown up thrice in the last 11 years and I sure would not want anyone to be around me for at least 48 hrs after that. I thoroughly detest myself when I do it to myself and I'm very sure I did not have a single drink after that, on each occasion, at least for a week, because after I throw up, just the thought of drinking alcohol is a huge turn off for me. So, how I feel about that is consistent in both instances / or directionally.
Appreciate your feedback though. It's interesting. The cultural thing. I also remember from my past visit that particularly in Thailand, some girls would playfully do a circle on my bigger than normal belly. I'm about 5:9 and weigh about 195 lbs, so a beer belly for sure, although I don't drink beer anymore. I've had 3 do it to me so far at Insomnia, including one another girl last night. LOL. And, another one, the night before, who then quickly moved to doing the same thing to my chest and nipple area (also at Insomnia) . Quite a short girl that one, even for a Thai, and I felt she wanted me to take her to my place but I passed because culturally it did not work for me (and I do like short girls LOL) . So, something for me to ponder but cest la vie.
Old New Guy
05-08-16, 09:21
Yesterday I brought a young lady to my room and once there she asked for my number, then she rang it. It took me a short while to realize why.
Who can tell the reason? Mr E. And other residents please refrain to say - I'll come up with harder questions for you!
Exactly how long is ST and LT? Can you rent a girl for the afternoon and night-time?
I would like to get a girl to hang out with me and have sex from maybe 2 in the afternoon to 11 or 12 at night when I send her home.
I would like to avoid going out to loud nightclubs to pick up a girl if possible.
What clubs have the best looking girls? Are all girls on soi 6 prostitutes?
Old New Guy
05-08-16, 09:52
Later, I wondered if the 20 baht tip to moto taxi guy and whatever she said to him, when she tipped him, was also a request to him to hang around as she would be back soon. That's just my wild guess, of course, he was a random driver outside Ibar.
You may be right, but sometime Thai ladies tip with their money when they think that the foreigner should have. It's one of these unspoken statements.
I also think the acting was because of a change of heart. In Thai culture an elaborate lie is better than a flat refusal. Of course that is especially ingrained in women of the trade.
Christian G
05-08-16, 10:39
What clubs have the best looking girls? Are all girls on soi 6 prostitutes?What a question! Are all girls in FKKs prostitutes? Yes or not? LOL.
Almost everything is negotiable in Pattaya, just ask in advance to the girl and tell her what you want, what you like and how much you will pay her.
Yesterday I brought a young lady to my room and once there she asked for my number, then she rang it. It took me a short while to realize why.
Who can tell the reason? Mr E. And other residents please refrain to say - I'll come up with harder questions for you!1. She wants to make sure you are not a lier. Do not know what you promised her.
2. To make sure if you can be a repeat customer or boyfriend or western union guy.
3. To see if it is a local sim or your real number from your country.
You may be right, but sometime Thai ladies tip with their money when they think that the foreigner should have. It's one of these unspoken statements.
I also think the acting was because of a change of heart. In Thai culture an elaborate lie is better than a flat refusal. Of course that is especially ingrained in women of the trade.Sure, anything is possible. I can't claim to know much about Thai culture and how girls from Ibar may or may not perceive things. I have not been in Thailand in over a decade. So I really don't know. One could speculate on a number of reasons. I thought 100 Baht for a motorcycle taxi from Ibar to Central FEstival during daylight hours was a decent amount.
Uncle Volodya
05-08-16, 12:40
I thought 100 Baht for a motorcycle taxi from Ibar to Central FEstival during daylight hours was a decent amount.When you are going together with another person they charge double. At least that is what I have been paying. So 100 sounds about right. That is what they charged me last night when we left the restaurant and I live a little closer.
Old New Guy
05-08-16, 13:02
1. She wants to make sure you are not a lier. Do not know what you promised her.
2. To make sure if you can be a repeat customer or boyfriend or western union guy.
3. To see if it is a local sim or your real number from your country.None of these 3.
Pattaya Trip Report, Take 2 Day 1.
Ok, back in Pattaya for the final 5 days of my vacation that ends Thursday. The hotel ordered me a taxi to take me to HKT for a 3:10 PM departure on Bangkok airways to UTP. Cost for the taxi was 700. (The charge down from the airport to the hotel they arranged was 750 baht.) The airplane left about 10 minutes early and the flight to UPT was without problem, with an early arrival. I debated once again on whether to get to a private taxi or ride the van. The taxi was 1000 baht and the van / bus / whatever was 250. I was not in any hurry so I went with the van again. We departed at 5:03 and first made it in to the south of Pattaya for the first drop off just over an hour later. As we moved up into Pattaya the traffic got very bad. When we hit 2nd road it was totally backed up. I was finally deposited in front of my hotel, this time the Dynasty Inn, at 6:48. So, total trip time was 1:45. A taxi would have been maybe 20 minutes faster I estimate.
I headed out to WS around 9 PM or so. I first went to the New Yorker, I think it is called, for a lighter meal of fried rice. I need to purge out the McDonald's and Burger King junk. I-Bar is right there so I did a walk through first. Still plenty of seating and no sign of Pam. I was very tired from little sleep and did not want to stay out late. After eating, I headed down to Bliss to see Fon. No plan to BF her, no more BFing Fon, but to say Hello,. But, of course, she was not there. Fired already, night off or out with a client, I don't know where Fon was. My soda water was 90 baht, which included a 20% discount. This was a reasonable fee, I suppose, given they have a 1500 BF.
I then headed to Sugar Baby to see Bee. I did not see her, but when another girl came over to talk I asked about her, and when I mentioned she was the one with the big boobies she knew who I was talking about. She went and got her. (I had forgotten her number, which is 141.) That girl then remembered me, and pointed out to where I had been sitting with Bee on our previous 2 occasions. Bee was in the short skirt they wear, with her top opened up and breasts exposed. She was happy to see me, and she looked ravishing, but no conversation flowed. We talked a little, but I was hesitant to offer and LD and she didn't ask for one. It was time for her to dance and she left, and a short while later I snuck out It is not so much that I don't want to BF her, and I suppose I will go back and at least buy her a drink. I am still physically attracted her, but I have been there and done that twice, and the second time wasn't better than the first, so what is the point anymore? There are some other beautiful women to be with, though she is special.
Between Bliss and Sugar Baby, Sugar Baby was the winner. Bliss had more girls and, thus, more good looking girls. But I am respectful, and would not BF from Bliss with Fon there, nor from SB with Bee there. But Bliss I certainly recommend, but that BF can get you. Well, for that matter, the BF at both places is 1500. There are some lookers at Light House and their BF is just 700.
Went back down to I-Bar around 10:45 and it was still slow. Wnt to Red. Now I need to admit that this bar where they have singers and is not Red Car. I had mistaken this in the past, so in my past reports where I said Red Car I really meant Red. I am such a dummy. But I planted my butt at Red, had a real drink and should not have ordered those fries. Those steroids from Dr. Bangla (see my Phuket report on my contact dermatitis that caused me to go to that clinic) made me ravenous. They tasted fine, but the catsup was combined with mayo in same small container. I still don't understand mayo on fries. I tried to ask for just a container of catsup, but it was so freaking loud the waiter couldn't hear me. When the second act came on at about 10:30 they turned the music up louder. It was insanely loud. I put in my nerdy ear plugs, which brought the sound level form bleeding to merely splitting. I soon had to leave. These band members are going to have some tinnitus problems in a few more years. Only one band member I saw and any ear protection. After that, I finally figured out the place down the walk with the car in the way was THE Red Car, the disco. The sound coming down that little alley was ear bleeding so I didn't bother with it. I was tired and ready to go sleep. But, oh, I can go see Bell at the Light House first!
So I went there, not sure if I would just say Hi or if I might finally BF her. She saw me before I found her and she came right over. My soda water was 110 and her soft lady drinks were 150. Bell is bubbly and full of energy, always smiling, super tight, hard body but a little hard to understand. She wants me to BF her, saying I can do it today or tomorrow, but comments that I have been promising to BF her in the past and I never do. She plays with the boys a bit, but I know that if I see her tonight I will be low-energy and certainly unable to release with her just one night after my last (dern condoms), so I say I will come back tomorrow. She is a little disappointed, but more guys are coming in now so she might luck out anyway. The BF at Light House is just 700, which is good.
I leave and walk back to the hotel. I see no SWers until Soi 13, where there were several, but I just wanted to sleep. And I was feeling like a rat about lying to my Thai GF, who thinks I am leaving for home Sunday. Sigh. This girl is a keeper, and I am out cheating on her. She wanted to fly down the BKK to meet me at the airport to give me something she made for me. Sigh. Well, I have never made any commitments to her or ever used the L word, but if she knew what I was doing she would be devastated. Well, the time will come when I have to make a decision (or she will make it for me! She is supposed to be trying to get a visa, and this is a sore spot with me for reasons I won't delve in to, but if she gets it, then I will have to make a commitment. If she fails, then I don't know. I don't really want to marry her, and least not yet and not in Thailand. I could bring her over on a marriage visa, but I am not sure if after one visit I will be ready for that, or if I can get a second such visa if I later decide to go through with it. No way I want to live in Thailand, and I am not sure if she would consent to live in America, given her strong family ties. Sigh. Too many questions with no answers yet, so I keep mongering in the meantime.
But I digress. So, I go home empty, feeling like a cad to an extent, but not overly disappointed that I am alone. That Dr. Bangla fee set me back at little, but Sunday I hope to score on Soi 6, then I will have to decide about going to Bell for that long promised romp, or seeing someone else. I am a bit curious how it will be with Bell. She has an awesomely tight body, but how will that translate in bed? We have been friends of short, but will that translate to a near GFE? I have my doubts. Oh, I did ask her what her fee was. She said it would be up to me. Good answer. But I don't know.
Writing these reports is becoming a refreshing time-killer, Yes, for me too. I get up, go eat breakfast and walk around, then come back and write about the prior nights experiences. Then I venture down to Soi 6, then come back and maybe do some more walking around, maybe get a bite, then back to the hotel to write of the Soi 6 (or wherever) adventure. Then a nap perhaps, and catching up on messages and the news, it is about time to head to WS, or even to search for an early evening SW.
So yes, I enjoy it, and it serves as a way to permanently document my adventures that I can delete from my computer.
Member #4698
05-08-16, 16:35
it serves as a way to permanently document my adventures.I agree. I keep a journal of my adventures while travelling and I try to keep it up to date on a daily basis while the memories of the previous night remain vivid and fresh. Then after my trip when I am back home and have plenty of time, I go over my journal entries to edit & correct the grammar for posting purposes. In effect I re-live my good times when I go over them and make the final edit before posting.
I have found that without keeping a journal, many of my girls and many pleasurable nights sadly become vague and distant in my mind. Even the best nights begin to blur in my memory over time. But rereading a journal entry, even years later, brings it all back like it just happened. This is why I write.
Photos are real important as well to preserve those memories in a physical form and to serve as a quality control device. I am not kidding. If a girl still looks good to me 6 months after the night, then I KNOW I did good, but sometimes a photo evokes a "what the hell was I thinking" self response which focuses my attention to what I was thinking and doing right before I selected the "plain" girl. I then tend to choose wiser and not fall into bad decision traps on subsequent trips. Over the years this method has really helped hone my selection process ensuring the selection of pretty damn sexy hot girls every time and thus has greatly improved my game.
I agree. I keep a journal of my adventures while travelling and I try to keep it up to date ....I had beeing doing something similar but I stopped a decade ago or so owing to possible legal trouble down the road. Laws and law enforcement is not getting better by the day for mongers and even if it were possible to have copies of IDs etc, who knows what burden of proof will be imposed 5 years from now. This is made worse by the need of crossing borders with data carriers full of pics. I still have shoe boxes full of (paper) pics from the good old days. I guess I will have to burn them when I move for good.
Yesterday I brought a young lady to my room and once there she asked for my number, then she rang it. It took me a short while to realize why.
Who can tell the reason? Mr E. And other residents please refrain to say - I'll come up with harder questions for you!She wanted you to have her phone number in your phone?
AND / OR.
She wanted your phone number in her phone in case something bad happened to her and the authorities would have a record of who she was communicating with?
Wolvenvacht
05-08-16, 18:09
I still have shoe boxes full of (paper) pics from the good old days. I guess I will have to burn them when I move for good.Or scan them and upload them to some anonymous cloud-based picture repository.
Old New Guy
05-08-16, 18:16
She wanted your phone number in her phone in case something bad happened to her and the authorities would have a record of who she was communicating with?Yes. Only since a recent time Thai SIMs are registered with an ID.
When you are going together with another person they charge double. At least that is what I have been paying. So 100 sounds about right. That is what they charged me last night when we left the restaurant and I live a little closer.That's cause you got the " The Good Looking, Most Interedting Guy in the World " discount!
And, I got the " Old Man Discount ".
Haha!
( think about it ...you'll get it sooner or later )
None of these 3.Yeah, she checked the phone number and said to herself, he's the " Old New Guy " ????
I know him from before. " he's the New Old Guy ".
😜
Old New Guy
05-09-16, 00:01
Yeah, she checked the phone number and said to herself, he's the " Old New Guy " ????
I know him from before. " he's the New Old Guy ".Spot on, I had been using that nick also! Then switched because of a lost password or something.
Just back from another night on the prowl. Engaged a slim looker at the Red Car, the sophisticated type with good English and silicone. Semi-friendly at the beginning, she said it was her first time there, whatever! Request 3K, but she was unhappy with my location (did I said that Naklua was OK? And passed a ton of attitude. No deal, actually she quickly turned unpleasant. My loss two drinks, which are quite cheap at RD.
The petite from my first night covers the pillar nearest to the bathrooms, if she could just deliver par to the look of her hotpants, legs and lips I would take her out 9 times out of 10.
Moved to Ibar, UV was doing his thing with Miss Hot Pattaya, drunk girls zonking out, massive young foreigners dragging their 1000 Bt special fare hos. The usual.
Next stop Marine. But I had no much energy left. Doing nothing all the day is fatiguing. Did not wanted to repeat a slim one from yesterday.
Unable to tell myself apart from the other leftovers, wrote off the night and took home Bt 10 of fried dough. Satisfaction guaranteed.
Spot on, I had been using that nick also! Then switched because of a lost password or something.
Just back from another night on the prowl. Both you guys are something else! Hats off! As for me, after the previous night's epic fail, I actually did not sleep well until after almost 4 pm. Woke up at about 1230 and did not feel like going out. Even though I was hungry and had only had yogurt, fruits water, strawberry milk and Doritos all day to clean out my system. LOL.
Super hungry now. And headed now to Central Festival at 1020 am. And from there to Sanctuary of Truth (part of the reason I did not want to go out last night) and will return to visit the Soi 6, 7 and other Soi bars which I have never seen (the other reason I wanted to be able to do day time activities rather than sleep all day after going to bed at 9 am for 3 straight nights).
Also, been researching the Tiger Zoo in Sriracha and will definitely check that out later this week, when I need a rest day. LOL.
Won't be drinking though until I head towards Walking Street around 1230 tonight. Will surely visit IBar and spend some extended time 808, and maybe Mixx too tonight, as suggested by Mr ENT.
BTW, for those newbies like me, Soi Diana has some decent accomdations with a good location. Such as LK Renaissance, Areca Lodge and a couple others (just seeing the view from the outside and many bars and LK Metro nearby). Whitehouse Condotel (mentioned by some here looked quite poor from the street and I'm glad I never gave that much time. Bay View Hotel looks great as well and anyone wanting a hotel may want to consider that. However, no Pattaya beach view. So, I think I made the right decision with View Talay 6, beach view balcony and really nice apt and service from DanceWatchers. Having Central Festival mall right next door also a huge plus, and being on 2nd road, of course, and around the corner from the Hilton.
Maybe I'll see you both (Old New Guy and Uncle V) around later. In Walking Street? Won't be checking here until late afternoon.
Ciao and cheers.
2. Re throwing up, I just did not think she was that drunk. And if indeed she was to a point where she would need to throw up, it would be a huge turn off for me and it would have resulted in zero action on my part in bed. So, given that, maybe if she was indeed going to throw up, her leaving was probably best for both of us. I myself have only thrown up thrice in the last 11 years and I sure would not want anyone to be around me for at least 48 hrs after that. I thoroughly detest myself when I do it to myself and I'm very sure I did not have a single drink after that, on each occasion, at least for a week, because after I throw up, just the thought of drinking alcohol is a huge turn off for me. So, how I feel about that is consistent in both instances / or directionally.No offense mate, but you are to serious. Those line's show enough.
We all here understand your point, but you line out very strict limit's. Don't overstep those, otherwise I'm out of the game! Right?
Hell, you partying in the nightlife area of Thailand until SUN rises again! What do you expect from a 40 kg girl at this stage of day?
If those written principles are so important to you, why not rebalanced your own approach? 7 am in the morning won't get you a sober girl which is not throwing up. You may find out a better time by yourself.
You may find sober girls at this time, but those won't be very intriguing for the punter's, as they are themselves not very sober at the moment. Old vice versa problem haha.
Pattaya Trip Report, Take 2 Day 2.
Got up, collected my dirty clothes from Phuket and took them to my favorite spot on Soi 13/1, Porn Laundry. It was freaking hot at 10:30 in the sun. Went on down and over to Bay Watch for a real breakfast. On the way back to my hotel I got solicited by an older lady. No thanks. Worked on yesterdays' report and did some work, then it was time for Soi 6.
Went to Soi 6 at about 3 PM. There was the usual afternoon traffic backup on 2nd road. The weather is nice at least now. Cloudy and cooler, and it looks like it is raining to the Northwest. I plan to simply walk down Soi 6 until I find a reasonably attractive woman and not be too worried about not getting the best one and walking back and forth in a vain attempt to find her. So, I start walking and it seems the quality is a bit higher this time. I get about halfway down and I see a spinner with long hair with a nice face and smile at Smoke and Mirror, I believe it is. I go to her, and she seems almost surprised. But she is happy and takes my had to go inside. Her name is Ploy. As I look more closely I see that perhaps she is a bit older than I first thought, but she is thin, nice legs, curvy for a skinny girl, with obviously A sized boobs. Her hair is down to her waist, a little on the thin side unlike many girls who have such rich and luscious hair, and is slightly bleached to be a dark blonde or brownish color. I hesitate and think that I can do better, but with her cute face and cute smile, I continue one with her. She seems happy. The bar fine there is the standard 300 with 1000 for the girl.
I buy my soda water and buy her a drink, then we go upstairs. We have to go up the third floor, but in this building the stairs, though steep, have a handrail, so it is not too big a problem. We halfway undressed each other and, with the final shedding of clothes, she led me to the shower and washed me. In bed, she asked what I wanted and I said to go slow, and to not be worried if cannot not release. We started touching and she revealed that she actually had 2 kids! There are no stretch marks I can find on her, and her boobs, while quite small, don't appear to have been sucked on. She said she tried to breast feed them, and her breasts were big for a while, but I guess both babies preferred the bottle. She also said she was 28. She guessed my age and was off by over 10 years. Maybe being nice, but she seemed really surprised that I was at an age once called elderly. Also nice was she said my manhood was large. It isn't, but always nice to hear. I do keep hearing I am a good size for Asian women, which is another way to say I am average for a western guy I suppose. But average is fine with me.
After the touching with some light kissing, she proceeded with a BBBJ. It really wasn't all that good. Then the cover (we used hers, as I had forgotten to take mine). She was wet and even with two kids, she felt pretty good inside, all things considered, but she certainly didn't have to wiggle to get me in. We started in cowboy, then switched to missionary until I got tired, then to doggy. I really tried to pound her, and she was moaning and gave me the thumbs up sign several times. Later she told me I did it like a young man. We switched back to missionary and engaged in some FK, and there were a few times I thought I might be able to release, but I didn't push it. I stopped when the feelings stopped being so good. We cuddled and talked some more. She is leaving tomorrow to go home to Isaan to visit her family. She says she does this every month. Got to be hard to leave your kids to go screw men for money. But with no men to screw for money, she would be in a world of hurt.
But she was nice, caring and accommodating. I think I could have found someone else better looking, but she was a good choice. I have no real regrets.
I did consider stepping into another place for a second round, but decided not to. I instead had a late lunch at Subway on the way back. Tonight it will be WS, and I have to decide if I will do Bell tonight or skip out on her again. I don't know. I still have that gut feeling it will be a disaster, but I really need to get with her just to see. She might be amazing. If she had a softer voice or was easier to understand I might be ready to jump on her. I don't know.
Was late to WS, not arriving until 10 PM. I took the baht bus down and I must say I have never seen so may SWers on BR. From Soi 13 down to Bay Watch, dozens and dozens of them, many appearing to be halfway decent and most of them actual, real girls. Arriving at WS, I was hungry so back the New York Diner for more fried rice. I had their 12 baht chocolate mousse which was frozen solid. Forget it. Better to McDonald's and get an Oreo blizzard.
I left and saw the young girl who does the gymnastics. I remember her from last year, and my has she grown!
I go in to Bliss, asking about Fon. The gal I speak to has no idea who Fon is. I leave without buying a drink. I later message Fon asking if she is still in town, and she answers yes. I reply that I came to see her, but no more bar fines! No response yet.
Went to Sky Fall. A lot of reasonably nice women here. My soda was 120. But I was not really feeling it. This techno music is grating on my ears. Then went to Iron. Didn't like their music either! Haha Talked to several girls, both doable. I bought one a drink. A friend came over and sat next to her and asked for a drink, too, but I declined. Some girls sat on the other side of me and one started talking. She later asked for a drink, but I decided I was going to leave. I instead gave her 40. That was cheaper than a 180 LD.
I stopped into the read Red Car disco. This was around 12:30 AM I guess. It was full but not packed. Interesting, but I didn't stay. I then decided to go to Light House and see Bell. She was there and excited again to see me. After a bit I bar fined her, curious as to how she would turn out. I had a gut feeling it would not be that great.
At the hotel in the light, I could tell she was older than I may have first thought, certainly being over 30, though it really is not that obvious. Her body looks young and is quite toned. I was surprised that her breasts were enhanced up to a see. I couldn't really tell from the outfits she wears. But she needed the enhancement as she had large nipple and they need a see size. So, this was my first clue that she was a mommie. You can barely tell from her stomach that she is however. The enhancement looks ok but was not well executed. You can feel the bag, which is a slight downer. Anyway, contrary to my gut, she gave one awesome BBBJ. Truly outstanding. She worked hard, had my entire rod wet with her saliva, and she kept at it for a long while. It was as good as a GF hoping for that engagement ring might provide. Then the cover. She felt nice inside, and not super tight that may seem nice in theory but I am not so sure in practice. We did various positions and she was active an energetic the entire time. And yes I released with her. I was exhausted and dripping in sweat, but I got the job done. I gave her 2000. We never talked price, but I figured a base of 1500 was fair, and she earned the 500 tip. So, yeah, I can recommend Bell at Light House. I may now never see her again, but I am glad I finally consummated our relationship.
I went to bed exhausted. I am again having problems sleeping, and my skin is still itching.
Fucking hell. She sounds amazing! She certainly was not there last night after 2 AM. Maybe she got snapped up by some lucky SOB? A lot of guys were out last night it seemed.
I will be on the lookout for her. Though I prefer my ladies petite.
There is a girl that sounds just like her at What's Up. She is one of the models that does the shows. A real stunner. But I am sure she'd cost a fortune. And no guarantee of GFE.
BTW: IMHO there are some serious lookers at What's Up these days. 3 or 4 of the models are just stunning. And from the regular girls numbers 26, 28 and 48 are gorgeous too.
But prices are steep. I was quoted 1500 BF and 3K ST, 5K LT by #48. And for LT she said she only would stay till 6AM!. Outrageous. I did not even counter offer.What is that? $180 USD? For an entire night. I assume it includes BBBJ? What about CIM. If she is young enough and decent looking, that is bloody cheap is it not?
What is that? $180 USD? For an entire night. I assume it includes BBBJ? What about CIM. If she is young enough and decent looking, that is bloody cheap is it not?Not cheap for Thailand, especially in Pattaya. As discussed many times: you can't take your home market VFM prices and transfer them here. Different market, different pricing scale. If you overpay the girls will not see you as generous; they will perceive you as a chump farang and a potential mark who is unfamiliar with the local scene.
SL.
Mumbai Guy
05-09-16, 14:51
What is that? $180 USD? For an entire night. I assume it includes BBBJ? What about CIM. If she is young enough and decent looking, that is bloody cheap is it not?No my friend it is way too expensive. The typical LT rate in Pattaya is 2000 B (60 US $). Max 3000 B (85 US $) if she is a young spinner.
Uncle Volodya
05-09-16, 15:19
No my friend it is way too expensive. The typical LT rate in Pattaya is 2000 B (60 US $). Max 3000 B (85 US $) if she is a young spinner.I am talking about the prices for the top gogo girls at the top gogos.
You are quoting him FL prices.
Apples and oranges.
Mr Enternational
05-09-16, 16:08
And headed now to Central Festival at 1020 am. And from there to Sanctuary of Truth (part of the reason I did not want to go out last night) and will return to visit the Soi 6, 7 and other Soi bars which I have never seen (the other reason I wanted to be able to do day time activities rather than sleep all day after going to bed at 9 am for 3 straight nights).
Did you ever get over to Soi 3? If so, how did that turn out for you?
Did you ever get over to Soi 3? If so, how did that turn out for you?Not yet Mr ENT. But I will in the next couple of days and let you know. From VT 6 I saw Soi 9 was real close and then 8 and so I thought Soi 6 was just a bit further ahead! So, I am wondering how far Soi 3 actually is from Soi 6. ? Will have to discover. I actually liked Soi 6 but did not get to see the other Soi's as I was with Uncle V and OLDNEWGUY, since Uncle V is leaving early AM.
I did get a taxi with AC to take me to the Santuary of Truth earlier today, wait for me and come back for 600 Baht, so I'm thinking even if Soi 3 is pretty far up from Soi 6 I should be fine getting there soon enough. In my first few days, until this afternoon, all my travels had been exclusively in the direction of Walking Street and I stayed out until 7 am on 3 consecutive nights! LOL.
Tonight, I will spend some decent time, at least 1. 5 hours each at Mixx and 808, and I'll let you know how I do.
Soi 3 later this week. Also, need to check out the other Sois between VT 6 and Soi 6. BTW, I finally figured out where I stayed on my last visit in 2002! It was at the Dusit Thani for just 2 nights and I remember in those days having found a nice girl I took LT from one of the beer bars on Naklau road (seems like most of those bars are now gone) and another Go Go place, but still have not figured out which one. I know I never made it to Walking Street on my last trip, so I don't know, and I'm sure it's gone by now (and I found a nice go go girl there then for LT but don't recollect where that was, but it was a corner one and there were many gogos in that area then. . In other words, I still have a lot to discover and even more to learn, particularly about how sensitive Thai women can be ( I am just not sensitive and don't care much for sensitive women and even less about jealous women ). Partly why I like Latin girls since they are ( relatively) cool and OK with it, and I never discuss dineros with them ahead of time. Here it is different ball game for me, and one I need to learn to deal with within my head. !!!
Mr Enternational
05-09-16, 18:21
Not yet Mr ENT. But I will in the next couple of days and let you know. From VT 6 I saw Soi 9 was real close and then 8 and so I thought Soi 6 was just a bit further ahead! So, I am wondering how far Soi 3 actually is from Soi 6. ?LOL. Same thing happened to me my second time in Pattaya. I met a chick online who worked in an internet cafe. She told me it was Jomtien Soi 5. I didn't know what a Jomtien was then, but I knew I was staying on Soi 8. So I walked toward Soi 7 and kept walking. And kept walking. Then I was like fuck this. Don't remember how I eventually found out that Jomtien was another part of town. Maybe the hotel reception told me. And I ended up taking a motorbike taxi there only to find out the girl was on vacation and had gone back home. We did end up getting together on my next trip though.
In your case, Soi 3 is not far from Soi 6. I think it is at the corner where the Sabai Soapy Massage is.
Banana Boi
05-09-16, 22:14
I read Viper Bar, the old Sapphire Lodge, got raided a couple weeks ago and they found nothing. Now I hear they're shut down for 5 years. There were some ok girls there so hopefully they hopped over to nearby Kinnaree Place. I'm looking for this girl. If anyone knows where she went it would be much appreciated.
I am talking about the prices for the top gogo girls at the top gogos.
You are quoting him FL prices.
Apples and oranges.180 USD is fucking cheap if she is young and hot and she does as instructed.
Uncle Volodya
05-10-16, 03:27
180 USD is fucking cheap if she is young and hot and she does as instructed.Yes and no. Cheap compared to Western prices. But Kind of expensive compared to the FL route. If you have a little game you can score a comparable FL at Ibar for for a fraction of that price. And she may be a better lay to and will stay with you longer.
But if you are looking for the easy uncomplicated route it is still affordable.
The catch for us who have been coming here for a few years is that the prices have just skyrocketed in the gogos while FL prices have increased more moderately.
Banana Boi
05-10-16, 04:00
I read a lot about LT prices for gogo girls and FL's but what is a fair price for a top soi 6 girl from say midnight to noon? Am I in the ballpark with 2500 baht? I paid a Kinnaree girl (7 pm to 1 pm) that and she was quite happy so I'm wondering if I paid too much. The good part is no BF compared to gogo girls.
I read Viper Bar, the old Sapphire Lodge, got raided a couple weeks ago and they found nothing. Now I hear they're shut down for 5 years. There were some ok girls there so hopefully they hopped over to nearby Kinnaree Place. I'm looking for this girl. If anyone knows where she went it would be much appreciated.Wow one of the best I have seen here on ISG. Congrats!
Wolvenvacht
05-10-16, 07:01
I read a lot about LT prices for gogo girls and FL's but what is a fair price for a top soi 6 girl from say midnight to noon? Am I in the ballpark with 2500 baht? I paid a Kinnaree girl (7 pm to 1 pm) that and she was quite happy so I'm wondering if I paid too much. The good part is no BF compared to gogo girls.300 baht barfine on Soi 6 is usual.
A top performer in Soi 6 will already have several STs under her belt by midnight and she will be rather tired or drunk or both. Barfining her more early will get you a more fresh (relatively speaking) companion.
1. Per Mr. ENT's suggestion I first went to 808 ( btw, anyone know the genesis of this name, since it is the area code for Hawaii and there is actually an 808 clothing company.) at about 130 am (well I took a nap first) and spent about 1. 5 hours and 2 drinks there. I really liked the place, the music, and there were some girls that I liked, However, the smoking situation in 808 seemed worse than at Ibar and Insomnia. Also, I had a pretty near impossible time, even on a Monday night, to maneuver around to check out the talent, and IMO it's because of the layout and the big circular bar in the center and its largish bar stools. I was able to get up near the stage after about 45 minutes, but never did get around to the opposite side of the bar. So, I probably only saw the talent in about a thirds of the area. Also, I think, there is only one toilet area (at the entrance) and so the traffic flow back and forth to the toilet seemed incessant, creating logjams and pushing. Anyways, only due to the layout and the smoking situation I decided I would haul my ass over to Mixx.
But, as I passed Ibar, there were Hip Hop party signs and I thought I would check it out before heading to Mixx. LOL, Mixx never happened.
After just one drink at Ibar, I went up to my favorite hangout at Insomnia. Two things seemed different on this Monday, versus the weekend nights. The crowd was still about 90 PC of before, but the girl to guy ratio was much better last night. And, I saw quite a few new girls there on Monday. I suspect it may have been because of the hip hop party below and some girls preferring to go when it's not so crowded, or maybe some did not score over the weekend elsewhere. I'd say there was still 25 PC or so of the regular girls. Tonight, perhaps because of the girl - guy ratio I was getting some decent vibes from a number of girls. I still bided my time and enjoyed dancing until at about 530 am, and this girl (who I am pretty sure I had seen before) , smiled at me, touched me gently and said " I want to go with you ". Well, as we all know, with FL and GFE it is best to let the girl select you and then you can decide yay, or nay. But, this girl was cute, well dressed and I dare say pretty and danced really, really well (super important for me) and had a nice attitude, and bubbly personality. Later find out she is 20 (has a 2 year old) and is from Buriram. And she said she's been here for 2 months. And she has an older sister she shares an apt with (she volunteered saying they pay 7000 Baht a month, she pays 3 and her older sister pays 4. Based on her English, and ability to dance really, really well, particularly hip hop, I think perhaps she has been here a bit longer than 2 months. But, who knows and frankly none of my business.
Anyway, I talked a bit, bought some drinks and we danced pretty intensely for at least an hour. She also did a few shots. Somewhere, during the dancing, I said you want to come with me and she said yes, and I said ok 2000 LT. For a second, she looked like she was going to counter but did not. And just smiled. And, after the intense dancing, about 45 minutes later, she said lets go after we finish our drinks. We left at about 6 am (I don't remember exact times once we started dancing) and she wanted to get something to eat at NY diner, which we did, and then hopped on a m cycle taxi and made it to VT 6.
She was really nice in the room, with a little bit of class (meaning the light touch) but spoke decent English. She showered first and then said she wanted to give me a massage, after asking if I was tired. She initiated this. So, I took a shower, she gave a good foot and up to the chest area massage for a good 20 minutes. She was really, really nice. We then had a decent fuck but I was quite beat and probably only lasted 10-15 minutes, all told once we started. I think I did luck out. She left at about 1230 , and I paid her 2500.
She was very gracious and very cute. And I think since she intiated the dialogue at Insomnia, just maybe she felt something, some sort of connection. ( I believe our DNA, which the double helix is now proven to be a quantum mechanics set up, may resonate at certain frequencies and this we have todate been calling ' chemistry '.). But, things may be way more complicated than that. Anyways, Enough chemistry, to want to go with me. BTW! I saw a girl before that (as she was returning from the WC and she was new and super pretty and super classy, no more than 23. I said Hi, she talked for a bit but she seemed to be with someone and was sitting by the wall at a table. One other really hot girl, I tried to speak with actually declined interest in the first 5 seconds. So, I think, if one is lucky, better to let it come to you, in some way, shape or form.
Well, she will return at about 9 pm (she is hitting the gym at 6 pm) , she wants to do a movie at Central Festival (I asked if it would be in English and she yeah, that's what she likes too). After that, we will be hitting Insominia again at about midnight and I've already agreed a price for tonight, she never tried to negotiate and actually seemed totally cool about what I proposed. So, I don't know. Lets see how things go tonight and I will report back. She seemed perfect for me, in terms of wanting to dance and ability to dance well, not trying to negotiate money, and several times she said she liked me and of course I reciprocated. So, I think I did luck out. BTW, she was not short ( maybe 5' 3 or 4 "), not super petite , and a pretty face, with really genuine personality in my opinion.
On a crazier note, throughout my life I have found that what comes to me is always better than what I go after, whether it be a job or whatever. And, so many times (including at Ibar / Insomnia and from when I was in my 20's, I've had a bizarre life, statically speaking, in terms of things seeming to intercede at the last second, and preclude my proactive attempts, and then good things come to me. I have no idea how, but being a serious stats guy, I'd say the odds have always been bizarro. I mean the combined probability of all the things in my life, would be in billion trillion range. One reason, (amongst several others), I embarked on this traveling journey about 3 years ago, to try or attempt to understand the Universe (from primarily a physics, biology and neuroscience standpoint) , quantum mechanics and free will and consciousness. Hey, we may indeed be living in some sort of mathematical universe and perhaps some sort of Matrix type thingy. Don't know. This is all just intellectual exploration for me. Not because of last night, but another data point in a series of improbable occurrences in my life. But, stats strike again in my local Universe. But, please do NOT get me wrong, I'm not looking for a GF, a wife or anything. I don't fall in love. My first and most significant love is indeed with intellectual dance with my Universe (meaning we may all be living in a Multiverse.) Anyone who is interested can PM me for more reading material, if you so desire and have some college work in physics and math. If you want suggestions to read re this crazy stuff. Anyways, enough of weird bull shit from me...... To be continued.
Pattaya Trip Report, Take 2 Day 3.
Work up in a daze from a poor night's sleep again. Wondered down to Bay View for breakfast, finally waking up from the sun and heat. The forecast called for rain from 11 to 3 pm, at was after 10. Never rained a drop all day. Sigh.
Came back to the apartment to do some work and writing then before I knew it, it was 2:30 PM and time to hit Soi 6. The traffic was not as bad today, so it didn't take too long to get there. I was not overly impressed with the offerings again today. And, I note that around this time a lot of the girls are eating, preventing one from getting a good look at them. I walk all the wall down, the come back, and walk down again. I am embarrassed to keep walking, so on I duck into a bar on the South side to get a refreshing beverage and watch the people. I end up watching a fully covered lady across the street clean up old paint in a bar that is being totally renovated. Even in the shade, I see these people dressed in heavy long sleeved shirts and wonder if they would be cooler if they de-layered. But, they should know better than me. They live here and work in this environment. I then see her glance over this way, her seeing some dudes and some girls sitting around in the shade, and I wonder if she is happier to be where she is right now than over here, dressed in a skimpy outfit sitting around and staying cool. Society often looks down on sex workers, but is screwing a man voluntarily a few times a day better than to be doing all that hot, manual labor? I don't know.
I leave and head back east and pass Offshore Bar and see a pretty gal. I go over and decide she is cute with a spinner body and I accept her invitation to go inside. Her name is Bay and, I learn, is 29 and has a child. She really looks so much younger. You cannot tell, until you see her boobs, that she is a mother. She seems to be new to this and her English is very poor. She used a phone with a translation app to help us talk. An Isaan girl, of course, but nice, cuddly and very much doable. The BF here is 350 and I assume she is 1000.
After we both drink come Coke, we go upstairs. We shower and we do some cuddling, touching and light kissing in bed. Her nipples are quite long, which I don't particularly find attractive, mounted to a set of A cups. Her slender figure and legs, and pretty face and smile, make up for the unflattering nipples. She was close to GFE like for some the activity, in the way she smiles and looks at you. This was all nice, and she climbed on top for what I assumed would be a BBBJ, but she instead did some kissing, caressing and touching that was quite intimate, then went for the cover. Hmm, no BJ at all I guess. Not a big problem for me however, and she may have done it had I asked. She slipped her body on to mine and it felt good. She was not tight, but comfortable. It felt pretty good, much like with Bell. She does the cowgirl quite well and she seems to be enjoying it, as she moaned gently and smiled a lot. I roll her over for miss and it is feeling good and I wonder if I might be able to get a second release in as many days. I have to do doggie on her, so we do that, then back to miss where, yes, I manage to cross the line! Yeah for me. Now that might be my last release in Pattaya now, and perhaps I should have held off for this evening, but a release is a release, so enjoy it when you can get them. I am using my Aoni condoms and they are now working out well. Key is to keep lubricated, and she had lube with her.
After the release, she didn't fidget to get me to pull out, and when I did I collapsed next to her and we some more touching and kissing. It felt nice. Never once had the feeling she wished she was doing something else, like scraping paint off old walls. I gave her 1200 and she was very happy. So, yeah, nice time with Bay at Offshore.
I then, on the recommendation of Bell, went to Sizzler for an early dinner. It was nice. Used to go to one back home, but that has been a long time ago. Then, I went to pick up my laundry, and back to the hotel to write and rest until WS tonight. I have been thinking about checking some of the SW girls out there instead however, so I don't know. I have 3 more night here, and just enough money to last if I am careful, to where I don't have to hit an ATM. I went out shopping at about 8 PM, searching for some tee shirts that were in abundance in Phuket and I wanted but decided to put off until here, and I can't find them here. Sigh. In the shopping I have managed to do, it seems like all the shops are selling the same things. I get ready to head to WS around 9:30 PM. I look in the mirror and my hair is dirty. I need to wash it. Been several days. Yuck. I never go this long without washing my hair at home. But, I don't. I will do it tonight.
Visited a few gogos on WS that evening. The Sexy Airline place was too buys. Crammed. I walked right out. Tried Fahrenheit. Fair number of girls but most overweight, but there were a couple of cuties. A largish girl with pretty face and hair comes over. She is all smile and quickly asks for a drink. I decline. She takes it well and goes after another guy. Nothing really caught my fancy, here or anyplace else, but I am tired and ready to go home. I though of hitting Sugar Baby to see Bee, but didn't. I thought of going to Light House to see Bell and say Hello, but didn't. I thought of checking Bliss to see if Fon was there, but I didn't. But I go in to Red Car at about 11:00 and stayed there an hour, drinking a real drink and just watching things happen. It started out fairly empty with a number of free tables, but was filling up good when I finally left. Nothing happened, but drinks there are quite reasonable and the music inside was not overly loud. Checked I-Bar next and it was starting to hop, but I didn't stay. Did some more wondering around and stuff, ultimately returning to Red Card around 1:30 AM I suppose. Got a drink (Bangkok Breeze is a good non-alcoholic drink there for the price of a soda water at some of the gogos) and walked around. An older, but pretty, lady smiled at me and I said Hello, but kept wondering, thinking I might go back to her. I have been gouging myself on the younger ones, so maybe a mature lady would be a good change. I am thinking some companionship would be better than simply sex. I walk on and there are two girls together, I say Hi to one and she kinds of dumps me on her friend, who seems older but is in a nice red party dress. I am not really interested but she grabs hold and starts dancing, bouncing her butt into by privates so, well, ok, I can let her do that for a little while. I really want to move on but, long story short, her friend seems to tell her she should leave with me. Um, well, I don't know. She is overweight, but breasts seem largish, probably has a kid or two, but she is visiting from Cambodia, been in a town a month and, I guess wants to party. Well, ok. Maybe it will be free or low cost at least, and a real GFE experience. I can manage that, and I am depressed so it might do me good.
But I am still not exactly sure what is going on due to English issues with her and the friend, and due to the noise. I am a bit uncomfortable with all of this. The friend seems like she is ready to leave alone, so I walk out with the girl (not sure I ever got her name) to where it is quieter to try to find out what is happening. But, yeah, I guess she wants to go with me to my hotel. I am not totally comfortable with this, though while she is happy to an extent, she seems shy about it and I am not sure if her friend over-encouraged her or what. Maybe I am old fashioned and I think we have been together for far too short a time for this to be happening. But, oh well, I am curious as to how this will all progress, and I had already grown comfortable that I might go home alone tonight so if things break down, that will be ok, so I let things progress.
We leave WS and she says she wants to get out of her party dress, and that her apartment is nearby. Turns out it is on Soi 13/1, next to my street. We walk the entire way on BR, me noticing that most of the SW girls are gone. We turn down 13/1 and I learn she stays above a bar. In fact, turns out she works here! She tells me to get a drink while she changes clothes. I get charged 40 baht for my soda. She come out and orders a bear. I pay for that. She is dressed now in jean shorts and a tee-shirt. At Red Car she seemed reasonably attractive, I mean a 6. Now, ugh. I even noticed a tooth sticking out from the side. How can I get out of this? She tells me this is her birthday. Ugh. Can I close my eyes and do this? I am still curious, and I am saying I am tired and just want to sleep to give me an out. Then she adds this was the first time she had gone out to celebrate since arriving. Sigh.
So we leave to my hotel, and I was so happy when the folks at Dynasty refused to accept a copy of her passport, so she could not get in! I escorted her back, dropped her off and tried to rush away after she went inside. But she came back out and hollered at me. I came back. I was thinking she might get her passport to take, but she didn't, but wanted to know what was happening. I repeated I was tired and really wanted to sleep, so I might come by tomorrow to see her. A coworker came over and said if it was a hotel issue they had cheap rooms there! Yikes, I guess she is a hooker there? This is a brothel bar! (Sorry, I did not get the name and I won't be venturing to Soi 13/1 again this trip to get it!) So she is visiting from Cambodia to work in a bar and give sex? I refused the room, saying I didn't want to do it that way. I really did not think she was a sex worker. I then finally managed to back out and hightail it out of there!
But I returned via BR rather than the shorted 2nd road as, actually, I wanted to check out for any doable SW girls as a last chance opportunity. I mean, I may be tired and all, but I am here and pussy is cheap and available, and I won't be getting much when I get back home. Need to do it all now. There were just a few SW girls on BR, but no one I was interested in. Turning up Soi 13 a slender woman, obviously returning from an outcall, saw me. I said Hi, she came over and took my arm, but I saw she was older and not really attractive to me, so I said no thanks and went back alone, showered alone and crawled into bed alone. When I reentered the hotel, I gave a hearty thankyou to the desk crew for saving me. My error, of course, was to settle for the girl who grabbed me who I was not interested in. Second error was that since I never had any sort of attraction for her, I just should have said have a good evening and walked on. I should not have let my curiosity about how it would all play out interfere. Soooo, maybe I will try again here tomorrow night. I am beginning to get a sense of how things work here.
Mr Enternational
05-10-16, 07:53
1. Per Mr. ENT's suggestion I first went to 808 ( btw, anyone know the genesis of this name, since it is the area code for Hawaii and there is actually an 808 clothing company.) at about 130 am (well I took a nap first) and spent about 1. 5 hours and 2 drinks there. I really liked the place, the music, and there were some girls that I liked, However, the smoking situation in 808 seemed worse than at Ibar and Insomnia. Also, I had a pretty near impossible time, even on a Monday night, to maneuver around to check out the talent, and IMO it's because of the layout and the big circular bar in the center and its largish bar stools. I was able to get up near the stage after about 45 minutes, but never did get around to the opposite side of the bar. So, I probably only saw the talent in about a thirds of the area. Also, I think, there is only one toilet area (at the entrance) and so the traffic flow back and forth to the toilet seemed incessant, creating logjams and pushing.You solved your own problem without even knowing it. Why worry about going to the stage when all the women are eventually going to go to the toilet? I have an assigned seat right in the doorway. That first chair on the left side? That is all me. If a woman is sitting there when I walk in she gets up and tells me that the chair is warm for me. In that spot there is no smoke, the music is not as loud, it is much cooler, and I see every woman going in and out. When someone passes that I like I grab her hand and start the process. Chill and laid back is the key. I don't go to the discos to party; I go to find somebody to fuck.
You solved your own problem without even knowing it. Why worry about going to the stage when all the women are eventually going to go to the toilet? I have an assigned seat right in the doorway. That first chair on the left side? That is all me. If a woman is sitting there when I walk in she gets up and tells me that the chair is warm for me. In that spot there is no smoke, the music is not as loud, it is much cooler, and I see every woman going in and out. When someone passes that I like I grab her hand and start the process. Chill and laid back is the key. I don't go to the discos to party; I go to find somebody to fuck.On the first suggestion, good strategy, good suggestion. Point noted, filed and actionable.
On the second, just fucking no longer does it for me. So, YMMV. I want to dance and party. And that happiness lasts for several hours, at least. For me, I'm no longer good at the fucking part, and so it works best for me when it is integrated into a holistic experience, involving all the senses and whatever chemistry or connection that just happens.
But, this is a low probability outcome. However, when the outcome happens, the intrinsic sensory and pleasure receptor rewards are high for me. So much so, that the lower event probability outcome, times the reward outcome, is greater than a higher probability event outcome , but resulting in lower relative reward level ( particularly as over the years there are decreasing marginal returns). And, so another fuck, and a mundane, run of the mill experience is exactly what it is......just rinse and repeat.
So, I often ask myself, okay I fucked. So what? For me, there's got to be more! And I prefer quality over quantity all the time. YMMV for sure! As a matter of fact, IF we were all the same, the world would be one boring place. So, yeah different strokes for different folks. We are all made and evolve differently during our life and it's life stages. Whatever works for each.
IMO there is no way to compare or contrast between multiple conscious entities. As we all experience everything in life inside our heads/ brains , including at the time of fucking and ejaculation and wherever our mental processes are both consciously and non- consciously (I do not mean sub- conscious here) going on. in ones brain during that physical process. And I'd say there is plethora of options here such as a feeling of conquest, as just one example). People get different things out of fucking. Each of us does what brain does or makes us do, for the most part. Free will is actually a dubious concept. We may all just have the appearance of free will.
Work up in a daze from a poor night's sleep again. FLHawk, you do sound depressed. Cumless sex aside, I'd just recommend that you stay properly hydrated and get plenty of sleep. The latter seems hard for you at the moment. But hey, it did work out for you on Soi 6!
She is dressed now in jean shorts and a tee-shirt. At Red Car she seemed reasonably attractive, I mean a 6. Now, ugh. I even noticed a tooth sticking out from the side. How can I get out of this? Hah! That is such an image you paint for us, I shudder to think. But you have such a deadpan style of writing, it's a real pleasure to read.
I said no thanks and went back alone, showered alone and crawled into bed alone. (Probably) for the best. Keep your chin up my friend, you have a couple of more days of this mania to go, and I for one am looking forward to reading about it.
FLHawk, you do sound depressed. Cumless sex aside, I'd just recommend that you stay properly hydrated and get plenty of sleep. The latter seems hard for you at the moment. But hey, it did work out for you on Soi 6!
Hah! That is such an image you paint for us, I shudder to think. But you have such a deadpan style of writing, it's a real pleasure to read.
(Probably) for the best. Keep your chin up my friend, you have a couple of more days of this mania to go, and I for one am looking forward to reading about it.Thanks for the kind words.
I did sleep better last night and had a great experience on Soi 6 this afternoon that you will all be reading about tomorrow I guess. So, yeah, I am feeling better and want my last two days here to go well.
I may actually go back to Soi 6 this evening, then go back to Red Car, or even stop by I-Bar, to see what happens. I have more that fulfilled my quota for women-bedding this trip, and I was starting to enjoy the hunting process last night, for the first time ever, until I got sidetracked. But who knows what my crazy mind will chose to do. I could have some engaging conversations with Haven about this.
808 is giving respect to the infamous Roland TR-808 that I think still today can be heard in many new top hip hop hits.
QUOTE=Haven123.
1. Per Mr. ENT's suggestion I first went to 808 (BTW, anyone know.
The genesis of this name, since it is the area code for Hawaii and there is actually an 808 clothing company.).
Uncle Volodya
05-10-16, 14:28
Haven123, buddy!
I am so glad you popped your cherry! I don't know how it is for you, but for me I find the trip gets better from then on out. I feel more relaxed and ready to enjoy things after I have "planted the flag" as my friend Illusionheart likes to say.
I think your trip will get letter and better from here on out. I just wish I could be there to enjoy with you. I left Pattaya this morning with a heavy heart, as always. But I know it will be only a couple of months before I am back.
Hold the fort for me 555. And keep us posted on how things are going. So we can live vicariously through you.
Stay horny my friend.
UncleV.
Uncle Volodya
05-10-16, 14:46
One more point Haven123, buddy.
I know it worked for you last night but I wouldn't rely on the girl always approaching me. There are a lot of sweet, sexy girls that are too shy to do that. So you will be denying yourself a chance to get at them.
Also you may end up getting stuck with a girl you don't like (see FLHawk's post below).
If you are too shy for a direct approach do so indirectly. Park yourself oposite your target and keep glancing over. If she return s your glances you are in and can make your approach.
Just some thoughts.
UncleV.
One more point Haven123, buddy.
I know it worked for you last night but I wouldn't rely on the girl always approaching me. There are a lot of sweet, sexy girls that are too shy to do that. So you will be denying yourself a chance to get at them.
Also you may end up getting stuck with a girl you don't like (see FLHawk's post below).
If you are too shy for a direct approach do so indirectly. Park yourself oposite your target and keep glancing over. If she return s your glances you are in and can make your approach.
Just some thoughts.
UncleV.Yeah, I agree. BTW, one thing I've noticed is that at Insomnia the shy ones and the new ones or solo weekend warriors (maybe) tend to stand right in front of the DJ booth in the narrow ledge area where one sets ones drinks.
And, BTW, I'm not a shy guy most of the time. However, I have become super, super picky in my old age! LOL.
I'm just not a transactional guy anymore.
808 is giving respect to the infamous Roland TR-808 that I think still today can be heard in many new top hip hop hits.
QUOTE=Haven123.
1. Per Mr. ENT's suggestion I first went to 808 (BTW, anyone know.
The genesis of this name, since it is the area code for Hawaii and there is actually an 808 clothing company.).Hey, thanks man, good to know it's related to music.
Pattaya Trip Report, Take 2 Day 4.
I sleep a little better. Not itching quite so much now. Hope this contact dermatitis is finally starting to resolve itself. I know it sure has been itching in the sunshine! Anyway, I woke up around 10 AM and left for breakfast and some more shopping. Then after some writing and working, headed up towards Soi 6 around 2 PM. I had run out my Cialis generic 2 days ago. This stuff has been awesome. I have been taking a tablet a day, and might be able to get by with taking that amount every other day. It is called Apcalis-sx20. Forgot the cost, I posted it 2 weeks ago, but worth it. I took another tablet before hitting Soi 6 to get me reprimed. I walked down checking out girls and stopped at Lisa Bar, seeing a really cute girl. Not a spinner, who I define as someone super thin, but still very slender with real curves. No extra fat, just a slightly larger and taller girl. Her face is a little more exotic than the typical Thai, and that put me off for a moment, but after a few seconds I began to like the look, so I went inside with her. She sat me down then cooled me with a cool towelette, as many do. She smiled, kissed me a little, cuddled close, spoke decent English, and soon we both had drinks. Her name was Nam, which took back. I had some issues with a Soi 6 girls named Nam. This girl was also from north of Bangkok, and the other Nam was from Bangkok. This girl said she had been there about a month. The other Nam, two weeks ago, said she had been there about 2 weeks. What the? Different bar, and this girl certainly looked a lot different and rather than be distant with poor English, she was conversing very well and clearly showing she wanted to be with me.
Anyway, typical BF of 300 and 1000 for her. We go upstairs and strip down for the shower. She has super soft skin, A-sized boobies which showed no obvious signs of being suckled, a flat stomach with no signs of stretchmarks that my weak eyes can distinguish, long brownish hair, a bit on the thin side down to her lower back, and she is just super cute. Shower is typical, but with a little bit of playing, then back to the room and quickly things change. For the better. Standing, she starts kissing me, touching me and this is like it could possibly be a near-GFE. Every other girl has had me lie down (or maybe I am just trained to lie down), but we are standing and embracing and then she gets on her knees and goes down on me. Not sure even a GF has ever done that to me. She looks up at me occasionally, which is so hot, and gets in come DT action, taking me all the way in. Wow. Maybe this is more of PSE than GFE.
We hop in to bed and she continues with the BBBJ, then puts on the cover (hers, not mine) and climbs on. She is not super tight, so maybe she is a mommie, or maybe I am getting seconds, I don't know, but she feels good. She rides me good for a good long while, then I roll her over for some mish. Her kissing, touches and overall great looks are bring me close to the edge. Can I make it three days in a row with condoms?? I have to do her doggie, so I roll her over. I am looking at her figure and noting it is really just the perfect size for me. I have had the thin spinners, but her size is really nice and the curve of her waist is just awesome. I pull out to turn her back over for mish, but she instead turns around to me and, with both of us on our knees, kisses and hugs me and tugs on me. FK, tongue in ear, kissing down the neck, it was wonderful and I think I got a little harder, with the see fulling kicked in now perhaps. I thought that, yeah, maybe I can release with this, as I was really hot. I threw her back on the bed and entered her and pounded. I got so close and maybe I could have pushed ahead, but I gave up. It was ok, I will have more chances before I go home. We cuddled and she wanted to know, like most, why I can't release. It is hard to explain to women about condoms. And so many men seem to not have problems with them. Maybe it impacts older men more, as I know it is now harder for me to release than when I was young. Heck, when I lost my virginity on a one night stand, and this was before the aids scare and we know about HIV, as I first plunging in I started releasing immediately. I mean, 1 second and I was coming! So embarrassing, but I kept pounding until, fortunately, see came, and she said I was wonderful.
Whatever, she was not offering to go bare, but she tried a HJ for a while (I told her to stop), then we cuddled she tried gently rubbing me more, so she tried. It was all good. Very nice. But time was up, so back to the shower. So, overall, a semi-GFE with some PSE action in there. This Nam is one of the better performers I have had ever in Thailand, is up there in looks and body department, and I am totally happy with her. Wish the boobs were bigger, but can't complain about much else. For the price, a simply awesome experience.
After that, in order to avoid Jiem, I excited on Soi 6/1, cutting through the spot where there are no buildings. You have to be careful about LBs here, but none hassled me. Came back to the hotel, collected some remaining laundry and cautiously took it my favorite laundry place on 13/1. It is far enough from the Red Car girl of last night that I didn't think I would be seen, and I wasn't. I shudder now thinking how it all could have turned out.
But I am feeling good so after the sun set I went back to Soi 6 for seconds. I stopped at O bar and spoke to a pretty girl named Tukta. Not a spinner, but I have searched up and down tonight and can't make a decision, so I chose her. We go inside but she is hesitant. I find out she has a sore throat and is tired, having 3 more hours to work. I don't think I want to be getting a BBBJ from a girl who is tired and has a sore throat, so I gracefully bow out, tipping her 50 for her time. She seems appreciative. I walk more and on the south side see some girls, one of whom is young and dark, with a slightly larger but very shapely and proportioned body. I think I want to try one of these out, as I am wondering if the skinny girls just don't feel as good inside, so I go over. I end up talking to several ladies, but the English is poor. I do learn the BF is 300 and the lady is 1000. The girl I want has very bad English so another girl come over to interpret. The girl will agree to a LD but refused to be BF, saying she is on her period now. Oh. I am being rejected! OK, cool. I thank them and move on. Well, I am not really feeling it for any of the girls there tonight, so I catch a baht bus and take it down to about Soi 10, where the SWers are assembling. I have not had a SW this trip, so I decide to give it a try.
The moon was low in the sky and I saw a couple of nice looking ladies and chose one down close to Soi 10 or 11. She was slender, long hair and probably late 20's. I had been looking at another with a cute face and not quite so slender, but she kept on her phone during my several passes by, though she smiled. The woman I end up with slender and pretty attractive. I go over, say Hello, and she fairly quickly says it will be 800 for ST. Fine. We walk the hotel and talk some. Her English is not to bed. In the my room she showers, alone with door lock, then comes out and I shower. We touch and kiss a little so it is turning out ok. She asks about a cover so I get my Aoni out and she puts it on. No BBBJ. She does ask after the cover is on if I want her to smoke. Huh? I guess she was asking if I wanted a CBJ. I said, no, it was ok. She climbed on it was the standard GC, doggie and mish. In doggie at one point I noted a little bit of dryness and was thinking about lube when it seemed like she suddenly has a surge of liquid come out inside her. She had been moaning and seemingly enjoying the activity so was this a bust of natural lube or did she suddenly start her period or what, but it felt so good and I then knew I should be able to releash again, my third time in as many days, when was feeling this awesome. Man, I am on a role now!
Well, wait. A condom has NEVER felt this this. Um, no, it couldn't have burst. Not dry enough. I wasn't pounding. Did it slide off? I pull out and check. No, it is still on. I put it back in, it felt so good. But warning bells are going off! Hey, dummy, condoms NEVER feel this good. You are banging a street walker you moron! Argh. I pull out, check in the light and, dern, it spilt. Sheesh. I go to the bathroom and wash myself real good. She isn't concerned, which is always disconcerting, for if they already have everything, they have nothing more to fear. But no one I have been with and broke a condom has ever been too worried. But their risk from us, especially after a shower and they can inspect us for things, is much lower. What is the problem with these condoms breaking like this? These are the only thin ones I have left. I need to be more careful. But I think that one thing happening is when the girls put them on, they roll them on without any space at the tip. I always leave a space and I don't any have broken when I put it one. I guess I will start doing that.
Anyway, she puts on one of her condoms and the feelings are diminished. So, there will be no release with her. And I am hindered by her horrid breath. These girls need to bring toothbrushes with them! Eventually I stop and she is sad I can't release and offers a HJ. She rubs for a bit and is nice about it all. I say she can stop and we lie next to each other. She does have a nice, smooth body but with the breath I can't take it any longer. She showers, I shower and I give her the 800 and off the goes. Overall, she is a nice girl and seemed to really enjoy the sex, but I am sure she was heading back to the street. Really, a pretty good deal for $28.
I head to WS after that. I had again eaten at Sizzler earlier, liking their salad bar, but thought I would visit the NY Diner for some fried rice as I was a little hungry by this time. I had been thirsty so I had gotten a small bottle of water at 7-11, and we Diner folks were not happy that I brought it in. The first person moved the bottle on the other side of the condiments on the table. Then a second person come over and was either going to take it away entirely or set it on the opposite side of the table. I snapped at that, got up, took my water and said if they didn't want my business I was leaving. It was ok they didn't want me to bring in my own water, I understand that, but to take it away from me or to otherwise make such a big deal out of it went a little too far. Oh well. I went to the ice cream place instead.
I did two walk through of I-Bar over the next hour or two. Then I went to Red Car around midnight. I sat down and more people came in. Lots of women there. I am coming to like this place as smoking is not allowed. Wish more bars would ban smoking. Disgusting to have to breathe that stuff. Anyway, I remembered someone saying in these places you sometime have to let the ladies come to you. And that is what I did. Literally, a woman from across the room saw me, smiled, and I smiled back. I did nothing, but later I saw her looking at me again, I smiled and pointed to myself, asking if she was actually looking at me. She laughed and nodded her head, so I took my drink and walked over to her. She was not spring chicken by any means. Older, wider but still reasonably pretty considering. English was bad and it was loud in there which made talking very difficult, but I think she is 39 with 3 kids. For her age, not too bad looking, and probably she matches up with my own age much better than a spring chicken would. Her name was something like Omaphon. She was pleasant and soon was doing some grinding and a she did a quick check of my Johnson. Long story short, her two friends left and she left with me. She never asked, it was just assumed she was going home with me. It was kind of a GFE pickup of sorts. It all happened by me, I guess, sitting in the right spot and being observant, and her liking me for some reason (maybe that I was sitting where she could see me and I actually got up and come over), and the deal was struck when I went over.
At the hotel she gave an absolutely incredible BBBJ. PSE almost. Just amazing. I think we only did CG and mish positions, but the BBBJ had me so hot I did manage to release with her and set (or maybe tied) a Thailand record for 3 releases in as many days! She spent the night, going to sleep cuddled up next to me. Next morning we slept late, me getting up first. I had no idea how much to give her. I really don't know how often she does this sort of thing, but I started off with 700. She kind of cried when I handed it to her. At first I wondered if the cry was because my unsolicited offer of money made her feel like a hooker. Nope, I quickly learned. She wanted more. OK. I gave her 1000 plus 200 taxi money. That calmed her. We dressed, left the hotel and went across the street for breakfast. I told her I am leaving tomorrow and she asked when I was coming back, but no contact information was exchanged. She left after eating.
So, I feel good I did a legit disco pickup again. She was of lower quality regarding looks, but upper quality regarding performance. Wish I had bothered to figure this disco thing out earlier, but oh well. Tomorrow is my last full day in Thailand. Be aware it may take some days before I can finish and post the final day's report. I presume I will start at Soi 6 again, maybe then a SW, maybe go for a stunner agogo girl and, who knows, go back to a disco and see what happens? Well, I will post this now and head on down to Soi 6 to get the day rolling!
Old New Guy
05-11-16, 09:49
After a very long time I had one of my best times ever today. Yesterday all what I could get was a petite Thai-Khmer lady at Marine. She could twerk low, had dancing energy, an wonderful coffee soft skin, didn't smoke, no tattoos and didn't seemed hardened. Good manners and a GFE but that's it. Gave to her nicely has a reward to her qualities but didn't got her number, I see no point in doing that with girls that have no major attractive.
Hoping for something better than that, I focused on myself, try to improve my look starting with the hair, fresh pressed clothes and upgraded attitude. Went to Red Car quite early and saw it populating. At first, only the older or uglier women are there, and are many. Then slowly around 12:30 am the slight better ones arrive, and around the same time the random groups of plain look ladies coming together to party, which are not bar-hoppers. They also want foreign money and cock, of course. As with all and any FL place the rule is simple, no straight Thai man of any age or class will ever put for in there. Which after all is a good thing. However the situation was very lackluster with only two younger hotties, one had a customer waiting, and the other said she had to catch the 4:30 am bus to Chiang Mai, ahaha. Zero stunners, wild animals, or trophy girls. There I've also met XRyder25 which is a nice guy.
Around 1:30 moved to Ibar with XRyder25 picking up some other girls which eventually he brought over. Nice mannered girls BTW, which is always important. Things started right as I stopped to a good table with a Thai-Vietnamese girl that I did one or two years ago. She's always in black, has a good hearth, and does relatively well in her brother's large apartment in Jomtien, but she doesn't look better than average uglish, now or before. Fortunately she was still sober enough to recognize and greet me at her table, and I sip from her drink before getting mine.
There was also a miss bolts-on-no-manners in white, which is for sure an hot girl, fair complexion, a pretty face with a small straight nose, but looked hardened and not so friendly. I wonder how she still can keep a ugly drawn "peace" logo on her shoulder when she wouldn't even to pay to cover it with something proper, by just fucking the needle artist a couple times when his GF is away. This of the ugly tattoos is a kind of fixation I got. How they can think that a Thai prayer on the back will help their luck. These and the former sucker's signature are the ones I despite the most. On the other hand I have no problem admiring a beautiful tiger or bird while mounting them doggy, kind of an alternative to staring to an asshole.
Right at the onset I catch the girl in white get the intel from her friend, I was cleared as "mot leeo", available customer, but I was not interested in her.
At the same table I got to know Juan, a handsome Korean-French guy in his late 30's perhaps. Elegantly dressed, friendly with everyone, he looked exactly like a K-pop superstar, and is a true gent. There is no tight-ass beer on his table, but brand Vodka that he pours into my highball generously. I counter getting more juices, which is 250 Bt.
We know that, of course, Thai girls are attracted by white Asians, but now I've seen that for real, and it's impressive. He does nothing to call them over, but they come or weave from away all the time. He tells me that he's extremely picky, but I see him happily talking and smiling to every single one. What a difference with the behavior of some hot stuck-up hooker that has no better way of turning down customers (when not needed) besides acting distant or downward rude.
Time passed away quickly and everyone was having a good time, but I got no clear signals from any of the good looking ones. As we know, it's a different game when you pass the big 50's. The Thai-Viet is taken away by an half-drunk short guy with a worn Tshirt that I would wear maybe to wash my car. Before leaving he even tries a move with the sexy in white, just to be quickly reminded with body language that in this market once an item is picked from a table no exchanges are permitted.
Around 4. 30 the game changes. There are fewer men, as the ones which got a hot one have put her at work already instead of wasting energy at the club. And the good looking ones which for a reason or another have got no customer, change attitude or are just more drunk. The sexy in white rubs her ass more easily with anyone; to be honest I would not have disliked putting my hand between that short dress or sticking my tongue in her mouth, just to feel the temperature. At least she acts like what she is, unlike some half-and-half cuties with their sophisticated make-up, dental braces and "I-m-so-semipro" type dress. But club rules are rules, and I refrain from. A single "perfect 10 tall hooker trophy contest" type walks back and forth couple of times, but she doesn't look at anyone and not even Juan can grab her in time.
Then, a friendly lady sitting next to me points me to a slender figure in black hot pants, smiling and standing alone by the restroom door. I'm told in clear terms to go grab her, and so I did. She's pretty with short black hair, great legs, a belly button piercing on a lovely stomach, a smiling and friendly attitude. We have a round at the table with the others, I say which is late already and ask if she gives good sex, she quietly says yes I do, and you? Bingo. That is exactly what a functioning man wants to hear. Juan also wisely tells me that I'm better leave with the catch while he continues his work upstairs.
In a moment we're back at the resort, and over the entire night, she doesn't do anything less than perfectly. She enjoys sex and has the talent to return the pleasure multiplied. As we get in the room she lays on the bed, still dressed. No toilet run or towel rolls, no need forced sexy poses, as she is naturally beautiful and enticing. She (of course) doesn't want to lead, but expects be discovered, caressed, and kissed without stupid interruptions.
I'm all over her. The very first time is an experience that a couple can have only once, and deserves to be played well, thing that rarely happens. But with Aom that was fantastic. We make out and undress slowly. As I start working and fingering her pussy she starts to moan softly, and arches the back slightly, from there on every move is flowing perfectly, touch and kiss and lick and suck and fuck, change around and start again. Not a word is spoken.
Our bodies are meeting each other perfectly, or so it seems to me. I suck on her nipples and with an almost non-perceivable pressure I'm indicated that her favorite is the right one. At times she searches for my hand, but reaches for balls and cock with the same sweetness. She keeps her eyes open, and it's a pure pleasure to look at her full lips slightly apart. She is soft and accommodating, and has no problem with sperm. I give my best, but without overdoing and overthinking. At some point I understand that actually she is a great natural at sex, but she is also totally mind present and lucid to the act, loves to please, and that is not easy for her to release. We'll see what can be done about.
After a good while of pounding her pussy hurts a little, more precisely it has become too sensitive, which is what happens with a lack of orgasm, but she's happy to finish me off in mouth, once or twice. She sucks cock perfectly, with the exact amount of speed, suction and depth. I still fail to understand why 80% women, pro or not, can't or won't suck cock properly.
I have taken a slightly dud Viagra substitute, a full tablet is way too much and makes cumming almost painful, but that has remedy too. She falls asleep immediately, cuddling closely and hugging at times. Good girl, and again I'm thankful to lady luck for have got her at a time when she has no repeating customer, something I made clear I want to become.
Sex in the morning is also joyous. Her naked, tall figure going to the bathroom is a wonderful sight. She has very small breast, but all her body is harmonious and well proportioned. I know that on high heels she will cause male drooling, besides getting over my height. Everything is done with a smile or a giggle. I finger her asshole a little and it's quite tight, but she says nothing, neither do I. For me it's not a must but when a sexy woman ask for a healthy fuck in the butts (one of the sentences that a man can't ever forget) who am I to say no.
She sips her morning vitamin drink (no not sperm again) and before noon I drive her home. More luck, that's not even far from where I'm staying. She fulfilled all her unspoken promises and I gladly met her very reasonable compensation, she looks happy and relaxed, for sure I feel the same and some more. I will to stick to this one all the way to the end, it would be stupid not to. If that works the only other reports you guys will read from me will be about restaurants, hotels, and motorcycles.
I will to stick to this one all the way to the end, it would be stupid not to. If that works the only other reports you guys will read from me will be about restaurants, hotels, and motorcycles.Congrats man and all the best to you! Looks like you are doing super great!
Sorry, I missed you at Ibar last night, but this girl just wanted to stay in and sleep for the night. And, so I decided it was a good opportunity to get an early start the next morning. I headed off to the Sriracha Tiger Zoo about half way on the highway to BKK, at about 930 am, with the girl in tow. It was a super hot day and the Tiger show unfortunately was not even as good as the staged Circus ring tiger and lion shows I've seen in the US in past years. But, the Crocodile show was pretty good and the Elephant show was just OK. Got back in about 4 hours total and jumped in the shower as it was one hot day. Even the AC taxi was having a tough time keeping up the heat outside! But, I got one thing I wanted nice pics with a big frickin Tiger, as opposed to the one from years ago with just a baby tiger. The girls highlight was shooting the pellet rifle that when the target is hit drops meat for the Tigers below. She actually got 3 and me 1, for a total of 4 out of the 20 shots. Nothing to write home about!
On the return, this girl pulls the old trick about her sister calling and she needed to get dropped off to get the key for the apt to her sister (because her sister apparently did not buy one). A 20 minute diversion for the driver and we drop her off in an alley in Pattaya Klang (see apts around) but no sister in sight. Driver has to turn around and come back the same way and we see her standing in this shop waiting for someone. So, if her apt is just there why not just enter it as she had the key and her sister can just return whenever. To me something did not add up. Plus, at the zoo, this 20 year old takes no pictures, buys nothing for her 2 year old back home. Etc, Too many data points for me that did not add up. Whatever! But I'm glad she was there to provide the music I like through the cars audio system via her Samsung Galaxy phone for which the car had an adapter.
She's left one her new NY shirts here, tells me she will see at Ibar at night and come back to the room with me. But, at about 8 pm starts calling me again and again. I text her saying I'm sleeping (bad allergies from 2 nights ago at Insomnia from smoke and whatever the cleaning people sprayed here this afternoon.
Anyways, I think I need to move on, else I won't get to meet some other Thai girls and she was nearing my 3 day rule, anyways. So, in my text, I told her maybe no lady for me tonight! Let's see, I plan to go to Insomnia later tonight and I'm going to have to try and extricate myself from her tonight, if I plan to bring a new girl over. Who knows I may come back to her again, but for now I need a break from this chick, who I think is beginning to take me for granted and trying to boss me just a little bit.
And, my nasal allergies are quite bad right now and I'm in an irritable mood to baby this chick anymore right now....
Uncle Volodya
05-11-16, 16:48
Congrats man and all the best to you! Looks like you are doing super great!
Yes congrats to ONG. I am so happy he found his lady and I hope they continue to enjoy each other to the max for the rest of his trip.
A word of advice, Haven123. Don't lie to the girl about not wanting to take a lady tonight and then have her catch you at Ibar with another (as happened to me).
Though it all worked out well in the end, I should have just told my girl the truth or that I wanted to hang out with my friends. She said something very smart to me: "I not your girlfriend, you not need lie to me". She was pissed that I lied, not that I wanted another girl. And now she felt she could not trust me.
She eventually came around and all was forgiven. In fact the sex kept getting better and better with her. But I realize now I made a mistake -- one that I have often repeated. From now on I will be more upfront with these girls when I want to change ladies and stop playing the BS Romeo role. 555.
Of course you don't have to be rude and tell her "I need some new pussy". It's enough to just say you want to go out alone with your friends. She will get the picture.
Happy hunting!
Uncle-V.
Gannaton48
05-11-16, 17:54
I have only BKK experience but noticed that without exception all girls I brought back to my room (freelancers from Beergarden) took shower alone. From many readings here I see the same reported. Is this due to thai culture or does it have anything to do why shyness?
Yes congrats to ONG. I am so happy he found his lady and I hope they continue to enjoy each other to the max for the rest of his trip.
A word of advice, Haven123. Don't lie to the girl about not wanting to take a lady tonight and then have her catch you at Ibar with another (as happened to me).
Though it all worked out well in the end, I should have just told my girl the truth or that I wanted to hang out with my friends. She said something very smart to me: "I not your girlfriend, you not need lie to me". She was pissed that I lied, not that I wanted another girl. And now she felt she could not trust me.
She eventually came around and all was forgiven. In fact the sex kept getting better and better with her. But I realize now I made a mistake -- one that I have often repeated. From now on I will be more upfront with these girls when I want to change ladies and stop playing the BS Romeo role. 555.
Of course you don't have to be rude and tell her "I need some new pussy". It's enough to just say you want to go out alone with your friends. She will get the picture.
Happy hunting!
Uncle-V.Haha. Its 145 am and just woke up at VT 6. I took 1/2 a 1 MG Melatonin and was zonked out!
I dunno if I even want to go to WS or anywhere right now!
As for her, I have this thing, a) she can do what she wants and b) I can too. I'm just here for a few weeks. She is free to find someone tonight at Insomnia and I'd be happy for her. I never told her anything about wanting to be with her tonight, she assumed. I really don't care for jealously. The girl I spent a month with once in Peru, she shared all her Facebook stuff with me, her ex boyfriends, the guy she really loves (but went off with his sexy secy etc) and I try to give her advice and buy her stuff so she can look great and sexy. One of the reasons I like younger pretty girls, they are less likely to be jealous because they've got better options than me. But they can dance for hours to the music I like, pop and hip hop. I am happy to help them find the love of their lives and see them be happy. That's something most people don't get about me. I always look at life in the big macro picture way and consider myself unimportant. I do love seeing the interactions in a crowded place like Insomnia and try to read people both guys and gals and think about it ( like seeing that dude ONG referred to....I never met the guy but admired his game from afar...I thought he was Korean American and not French Korean, although that is quite awesome for him ( and I doubt Juan is his nameOh, maybe Juan in a Million ! ).
In that sense, I love intense and complex stimuli of information and try to take it all in. When I dance too I am actually dancing with everyone in the singular. I enjoy how it makes me think about weird shit wrt to physics and life, in terms of science. So I am way too frickin weird my friend.
As I think I told you, I can be quite detached and some may rightly say, kinda cold, as I am certainly not the lovey-dovey type and as my ex and daughter often say, think like a computer! So, I am not much into feelings as you may have gathered.
I care about things at a very macro level. Not micro level. For example, I don't care about a particular dog ( even the cute miniature daschund we had for over a decade) but love all living things at the macro level more than 99.999999 PC of the peeps on this planet. But, I would watch Natl Geo , the Science Channel and Star Trek for tens of hours....made my ex and daughter mad. So, yeah I am beyond help. I know it, you know it ...and I am quite at peace with myself.
Now that I've shared all that, I think I will haul my ass over to Insomnia by 230 am for a few hours and have a few drinks in your honor and stay unhorny for tonight my friend. LOL.
Wolvenvacht
05-11-16, 20:14
How they can think that a Thai prayer on the back will help their luck.I wouldn't know but it is not more silly than sitting in church and praying and that practice is strangely enough rarely questioned.
Wolvenvacht
05-11-16, 20:29
I have only BKK experience but noticed that without exception all girls I brought back to my room (freelancers from Beergarden) took shower alone. From many readings here I see the same reported. Is this due to thai culture or does it have anything to do why shyness?If I remember well, it is about 50/50 in my experience. Some do, some don't. Some that do already initiate some play in the shower, others will wash you and are surprised when you do likewise to them.
Mr Enternational
05-11-16, 22:17
I have only BKK experience but noticed that without exception all girls I brought back to my room (freelancers from Beergarden) took shower alone. From many readings here I see the same reported. Is this due to thai culture or does it have anything to do why shyness?Are you saying you asked to take a shower together and they said no or you expected them to say let's take a shower together and they did not offer?
Again, I think that is more of a western thing. Most of the women that I know in foreign countries have never taken a shower with a man, even the ones who were married before.
I have only BKK experience but noticed that without exception all girls I brought back to my room (freelancers from Beergarden) took shower alone. From many readings here I see the same reported. Is this due to thai culture or does it have anything to do why shyness?Yeah, I'd say go to Brazil for that. They actually like to take showers together, you soap them, they soap you, deep kissing and do everything you want to do there. No probs at all. They enjoy it.
Perhaps it is the beach and bikini culture or the termas, don't know, but it works there.
Talent was very significantly lower quality, but didn't get there until 230 am. And, stayed until 7.
My allergies were making me extra sensitive to the smoke, with quite a few (I think) Korean and Japanese guys in groups of 4-5 smoking big and surprisingly quite a few girls as well (straight up cigarettes).
I am dreading how I may feel when I wake up as it is 740 am, despite having done the Nasacort thing and Mucinex and an Advil, LOL ( yeah I have super bad allergies to dust, pollen, pet hair, smoke etc.). So, at Insomia I am paying a price, and I know it, but I love the music, the ambiance and the peeps. So, for me it's a cost of being there.
There were some strange things happening this night. As I was walking into Ibar, two girls in their 30's and wearing one piece dresses (not the sexy kind but rather bland), all of sudden, no argument, no shouting, started swinging at each other. Literally inches from the entrance. Security guys did not get involved as they were outside the entrance and I just split quickly.
One girl (who looked half African and half Moroccan (because she was wearing a heavy , very colorful , belly dancing skirt and a cut off top (no bra) in her 30's was being very provocative on the dancing stage for at least an hour, and then it looked like she was slowly lifting her skirt (and the security guys, I think, we're not sure if she had panties on) , came up and said something to her (she was not responding in Thai) and she got totally pissed off at the security and completely lifted her skirt up over her head, to reveal her back bikini panties! . Haha. Within 2-3 seconds she was totally pissed got off the dance stage and I never saw her again!
One big guy (white guy) was totally drunk, and as the security guys were escorting him out, he started throwing up, right there in front of the dance stage in the middle, and to the left of the bar as you walk in. Man, you should have seen people trying to move helter-skelter within a fraction of a second and the girls were holding their noses. Luckily I was about 10 ft away and I quickly moved to the far end of the bar.
One short girl, about 4' 7 ", young, great boobs, (good dancer) got completely drunk and was trying to ply those syringe shots from the top of the stage and tried to shoot one into my mouth. I passed and she was like dancing all over by me and trying or actually falling of the stage and I caught her a couple of times. Her girl friends had to come help her and soon thereafter another side of her emerged, angry and flailing her arms at her girl friends, the security guards etc. And, here I was thinking I'd like to take her LT the next time I see when she is not so drunk and I have cleared my head of my stuffed up nasal passageways. Ah no. Not after I saw that crazy and violent, angry side of her. I am sure she is regular as the security guys knew her! I think she gets super angry when drunk , pretty much always.
There were a few other incidents like this from tonight that I have not seen at Insomnia in the 4 nights I've been there to 7 am close! LOL. Story of my life, I always enjoy staying at dance clubs to close to see the fun at the end.
There was a group of 4 girls (seemed non pro) and I have not seen there before and at least 2 of them cute and I would have been happy with either. One had a really nice booty, both under 23. I saw a few guys talk to them and strike out. I chatted them up way at the end, and it turns out one had her day off today, another was working today (later and they were drinking quite a bit) and they were the only ones I really liked but my head pressure I'm sure will make any sex right about now painful right before ejaculation. Anyways, turns out they have been in Pattaya 2 years , but are originally from Cambodia. Did not seem like go go girls to me or bar girls in the Sois. But if I see them again I will follow up and see if one wants to go with me. I really liked them.
I saw my girl from this past morning at about 330, I tried not to make eye contact and quickly moved to the other end of bar as she was up on one of stages dancing. She may have seen me, not sure, and it does not matter to me. About 30 minutes later she was gone and that was good. She still has one of her blouses here that she needs to pick up (if she remembers) and once she gets that I am going to tell her I am butterfly as I will for sure find another girl at Insomnia tomorrow night. There is always a girl, it is just a matter of me being super super picky. If I just wanted a girl I could every night. And, I'm feeling like I am way below budget on my $ and so I am now gonna be aggressive and spend some money in a free flowing way for the next week. Lol
BTW, Mr ENT what's the scoop with like 3 girls there with the sharp features (they are all super pretty and in their early to mid 20's) and 2 have very fair skin and look model like! Asking cause I thought you might have seen them too before and may have heard the story about them. They are all less than 50 pc Thai. Mixed breeds like me. Kind of Latin looking. The kind of girls the ad companies in Thailand like for the billboard ads...as I have worked with some of the ad agencies in the past in Thailand on Citibank credit card campaigns and I know why these kind of looks are sought after in Thailand ( and also in Korea ). I spoke to one very briefly the other night as she was returning from the RR, but she was sitting with a group. The third one has a bit darker complexion, probably 5 ' 2 " tall, and could actually pass for a super flaca from Santiago in the DR (I mean she has zero tits and zero ass) , the other 2 have good tits, but pretty flat asses and very fair skin both max 5 ft tall. This girl was getting wasted tonight and was totally drunk and that is surprising because I have seen all 3 of these girls there every night I've been there but they have all had great composure in the past. I like all these 3 chicks and so I ask. My guess is that the super pretty fair skinned ones are going to be at least 5 k LT. Because they are really photo model pretty. For me, the face comes first, as I don't want to wake up in the morning to a face I don't like! Yeah, I know I'm not that good looking either, but I'm the one paying ! Lol.
Undercoverh
05-12-16, 05:03
Soi 6 Pattaya is a unique place and that there is literally 50 or more bars with girls sitting outside in the afternoon and evenings. Short time is about 1000 baht and barfine is about 300 to 350 but all of my experiences there have been very enjoyable and one of the best sex I've had in a long time. It's surprising that you will see some cute girls there. I wonder why they don't work in go go bars, maybe they don't feel like dancing all night. Another nice experience I've had is just getting a massage at one of the many massage shops in the city. Sometimes the girls will be super nice to me and suggest that they can give me a massage in my room if I like. 1 girl suggested come over the next morning and I would just pay her to massage me, and not pay the shop. I agreed to this and she came over the next morning and she asked me to massage her one thing led to another and we started kissing and getting in bed. She never asked for a fee but I knew that I would need to give her something extra more then the basic 600 baht for the massage room fee.
She ended up staying several hours including massaging me naked. We had sex 3 times and she has a nice big round ass and nice big tits and surprisingly very sweet and nice. I gave her 1,000 and she was extremely happy with that. She says that. She makes about 3 - 4000 Baht per month. So when I give her 1000 but she was more than happy.
Everywhere you look in Pattaya sex is for sale. From the regular girls to bar girls. You can meet a regular girl in the mall or shops. I often give them 500 to 1000. Just put it in their hand after a date and sex and they're always happy with that.
I don't treat them like prostitutes or ask them how much it cost up front when I need regular girl. Of course if you meet a bar girl or girl on soi 6 you always need to discuss the price in advance.
Pattaya has certainly earned his name as the sex capital of the world! I spend a lot of time at the Windmill bar where you can finger fuck girls for 100 tip. Even stick your finger up their ass.
Pattaya is certainly a unique place and I will certainly be back.
Soi 6 Pattaya is a unique place and that there is literally 50 or more bars with girls sitting outside in the afternoon and evenings. Short time is about 1000 baht and barfine is about 300 to 350 but all of my experiences there have been very enjoyable and one of the best sex I've had in a long time. It's surprising that you will see some cute girls there. I wonder why they don't work in go go bars, maybe they don't feel like dancing all night. Another nice experience I've had is just getting a massage at one of the many massage shops in the city. Sometimes the girls will be super nice to me and suggest that they can give me a massage in my room if I like. 1 girl suggested come over the next morning and I would just pay her to massage me, and not pay the shop. I agreed to this and she came over the next morning and she asked me to massage her one thing led to another and we started kissing and getting in bed. She never asked for a fee but I knew that I would need to give her something extra more then the basic 600 baht for the massage room fee.
She ended up staying several hours including massaging me naked. We had sex 3 times and she has a nice big round ass and nice big tits and surprisingly very sweet and nice. I gave her 1,000 and she was extremely happy with that. She says that. She makes about 3 - 4000 Baht per month. So when I give her 1000 but she was more than happy.
Everywhere you look in Pattaya sex is for sale. From the regular girls to bar girls. You can meet a regular girl in the mall or shops. I often give them 500 to 1000. Just put it in their hand after a date and sex and they're always happy with that.
I don't treat them like prostitutes or ask them how much it cost up front when I need regular girl. Of course if you meet a bar girl or girl on soi 6 you always need to discuss the price in advance.
Pattaya has certainly earned his name as the sex capital of the world! I spend a lot of time at the Windmill bar where you can finger fuck girls for 100 tip. Even stick your finger up their ass.
Pattaya is certainly a unique place and I will certainly be back.Hey, could you or anyone else on this board, please suggest a few places for meeting cute young massage girls, preferably somewhere where they also have good quality private rooms with excellent ac for massage on premises. And then I can maybe figure out where and how I go from there. To having them come over to my room? I'd love to try that today! LOL.
Old New Guy
05-12-16, 05:44
Yes congrats to ONG. I am so happy he found his lady and I hope they continue to enjoy each other to the max for the rest of his trip.
You'll read it first: it's over 555. Yesterday she didn't seemed interested in a repeat and returned one single message as "I'm dinner already". When I saw her at the Ibar I just said how are you doing. A loss for sex but also spared withdrawal pain, because when I'm staying longer that one a night with a woman that I really like things quickly get personal, and at the time of leaving one takes the risk of opening himself to misery keeping in contact. Still recommend her for 100% GFE. She stands by the ladie's room.
H123 - I also like to observe situations at the disco, perhaps I oversimplify but I find most characters just fall into predictable categories. For example today a young Afro-American was being literally pestered by a short fattie but he would not just move, then tells me he was trying to get 2500 Bt out of her! ? ! Not supersmart I'd say. We don't see or know but there is much more shit going on, drugs, HIV, bad fights. And many girls are banned from Ibar permanently.
Man now that you wrote it I find that I've got a congested nose too! But at least the cock congestion by generic Viagra is ending, fuck it made almost painful to pi ss too! So yesterday I took a rest from catching pussy and mostly sat.
Banana Boi
05-12-16, 05:45
Hey, could you or anyone else on this board, please suggest a few places for meeting cute young massage girls, preferably somewhere where they also have good quality private rooms with excellent ac for massage on premises. And then I can maybe figure out where and how I go from there. To having them come over to my room? I'd love to try that today! LOL.Go to Kinnaree if you haven't been. Be inside and let the girls come to you. Great service. Same price as soi 6. Remember peak hours are from 3-6 pm and the place closes at 7 pm.
By massage do you mean random shops or places like Honey 2, Sabai Dee, Sabai Room, etc. ? I'm guessing the soapies are too pro for your liking.
Old New Guy
05-12-16, 05:51
Hey, could you or anyone else on this board, please suggest a few places for meeting cute young massage girls, preferably somewhere where they also have good quality private rooms with excellent ac for massage on premises. And then I can maybe figure out where and how I go from there. To having them come over to my room? I'd love to try that today! LOL.That would be the high-ends soapies, more a thermae or a gent's club rather than massage. You see the biggest ones passing Pattaya central on 2nd road, but also on Pattaya North. There are less known but luxurious ones in the same area. These normally cater to Asian customers that want young submissive masseuse and a quickie.
If you want to have a cute masseuse coming to your room you need to try her out first at her place, tip nicely and that should convince her and the owner to let her outcall a next time.
That would be the high-ends soapies, more a thermae or a gent's club rather than massage. You see the biggest ones passing Pattaya central on 2nd road, but also on Pattaya North. There are less known but luxurious ones in the same area. These normally cater to Asian customers that want young submissive masseuse and a quickie.
If you want to have a cute masseuse coming to your room you need to try her out first at her place, tip nicely and that should convince her and the owner to let her outcall a next time.Thanks, ONG. But pray tell me where on second RD is Pattaya Central and Pattaya. As you know, I am a dunce when it comes to stuff like that! So, Second Rd and near what Soi please?
Oh, and BTW I'm really sorry about your Viagra. Yeah, I hear you man, with my sinuses (the only surgery I had in my life was for a deviated septum and to roto rooter my sinuses to widen them). Easy peasy surgey, but recovery is a bit-h !
And so, Viagra for me starts off with a runny nose and eyes. Have not used a Viagra or Cialis (which did didly squat for me BTW) in over a year. But when it works it's great, but yeah cumming can be difficult and oh BTW it also takes up my body's Pottasium and I need to replenish electrolytes with the WHO electrolyte packets in water! LOL.
Go to Kinnaree if you haven't been. Be inside and let the girls come to you. Great service. Same price as soi 6. Remember peak hours are from 3-6 pm and the place closes at 7 pm.
By massage do you mean random shops or places like Honey 2, Sabai Dee, Sabai Room, etc. ? I'm guessing the soapies are too pro for your liking.Ok, yeah I've heard from many about Kinnaree so I will try that either today or tomorrow.
Yeah, the Honey, Sabai stuff is not for me. Went in to Honey and turned back in like 3 seconds (I did do one like in 2002 , the only other time I've been here) and it was good. But I think these soapies are too pro for me at this stage in my life. For whatever reason it just does not work for me.
And, By massage I meant places I meant like Thai massage in a private room for an hour and if I like the young cute girl I can then try to see if she wants to come to VT 6 later ? I realize it will be hit or miss, but I think it's a not a bad way to spend 300 Baht for an hour ,and I can try 2-3 in a day?
Ok, Kinnaree place it is, BB. Thanks.
Old New Guy
05-12-16, 06:17
Thanks, ONG. But pray tell me where on second RD is Pattaya Central and Pattaya. As you know, I am a dunce when it comes to stuff like that! So, Second Rd and near what Soi please?
From N. to S. there are the big "avenues", North, Central, South. That with beach, 2nd, 3rd and Sukhumvit gives you the approx area before getting to Soi level. I know when not driving oneself it's a pain to get around to explore, another alternative could be the massobrothels of Buakhao 11, east of 2nd.
From N to S there are the big "avenues", North, Central, South. That with beach, 2nd, 3rd and Sukhumvit give you the approx area before getting to Soi level. I know when not driving oneself it's a pain to get around to explore, another alternative could be the massobrothels of Buakhao 11, east of 2nd.So, 2nd RD near Soi Buakhao and Soi Diana (BTW I am little confused. I thought Soi Buakhao was parallel to 2nd RD) ? It's like a 5 min walk from VT 6.
And, you don't mean Honey right ( which is in that general area ) ? I'd much prefer smaller places though...if you have any other suggestions... Sorry to be pestering you ...Thx
XRatedBangkok
05-12-16, 08:36
I was in Pattaya a few days ago and I wanted to have a quickie in a small oil massage shop I spotted earlier. The venture is named Paradise Massage and is located in the Pattaya Songsai Soi 11. It is 10 meters from the corner Soi Buakhao, close to the Sawasdee Siam hotel.
So there I went and picked a girl whose name I forgot. She is a young girl from Isaan, Udon Thani, slim, dark skin color, dark color eyes and a white painted pretty face. She says she is 20, no way to know if it is true. Prices are 1200Th be for a short time, 1000 thb for a blow job and 700 thb for a hand job. I chose the blowjob.
I let my conductress guide me. Judging by the many pairs of men shoes I could see down the stairs, about 7, I deducted it was rush hour and full house. It was about 5 pm. Up we go. The stairs are tiny and each floor has 1 to 2 rooms. A guy with a Hell Angels' look was busy here washing the bed linen. We reach the room and hey there was a lady here with a fifty-something dude by the door. They are about to leave. A bit odd but OK. The room is approximately 20 m, divided in two by a seedy curtain. On each side is a single bed and that's all. That is not the most comfortable place in the world but that is fine with me. I undress, she gives me the towel and she shows me the shower on landing. Somebody is in there so I wait back in the room. And then hey, who is coming back in the room? The dude and the lady I just saw. They were not finished. The guy goes to lie on the bed. I am here on the other side of the curtain, in this tiny room, surprised and then quickly annoyed.
"- So they are going to stay here now?
- (she says nothing but starts to pinch my nipples as if I was a capricious kid).
- Listen, there is no way I am staying here with this guy in the same room."
No word from the papa one meter away. I put my clothes back on and I am quite pissed off. Some of you may think I behave rude for a Thai person, but here is what I think: this is just unacceptable and this is such a bad service that I consider it to be a scam. And with scammers, I do not raise my voice; instead I tell them "no" and I vote with my feet: I leave. I am a customer paying for a hooker, I am not a dog and I expect to be treated as a customer and to get a fair service.
So down we go, I can see the lady is offended but I just do not care. She passes the counter where the mamasan is sitting. That one looks at me with this greedy look they have and realizes her commission is flying away. The girl reaches outside and reports to the other girls "yeah he doesn't want, he wants to have a room for him" and she goes to sit where I cannot see her. Then another girl steps in, a fat bottom one with a pear figure and asks me what the problem is. LOL as it was normal to be shagging with a buddy one meter away from you, as if it never happened that anyone complained. The mamasan then tells me there is another free room and I can have a look at it. She gives the key to the chubby and this one invites me to go upstairs.
At this point I do not trust this place any more, and I already know what is going to happen: by Thai girl business magic, I will wind up with the plump babe who was absolutely not my first choice to begin with. So that is the second no go in my head. I explain it to the mackerel and I regret not to have told her how I felt about the room rotation.
I briefly consider to call the slim queen bee back in, but I already know that 1. She may say "no" and 2. That she feels huffy and that she would give a very poor performance: not worth it at all. So I just nod, put my shoes back on and leave. As I am leaving, I memorize the location and the name for the report I will later write.
So my conclusion: Paradise Massage and is located in the Pattaya Songsai Soi 11 bad house policy, poor service, close to scam. I do not recommend.
Uncle Volodya
05-12-16, 08:49
So, 2nd RD near Soi Buakhao and Soi Diana (BTW I am little confused. I thought Soi Buakhao was parallel to 2nd RD) ? It's like a 5 min walk from VT 6.
And, you don't mean Honey right ( which is in that general area ) ? I'd much prefer smaller places though...if you have any other suggestions... Sorry to be pestering you ...ThxThere are a bunch of massage shops on Kasetsin 11 Alley the next Soi parallel to LK Metro. The one closest to the Soi Bukhao end of the alley in particular had 3 or 4 really cute girls.
It may be a little too pro for you. But its pretty close to where you are staying so it may be worth a look the next time you are out for a walkabout.
Uncle Volodya
05-12-16, 08:53
You'll read it first: it's over 555. Yesterday she didn't seemed interested in a repeat and returned one single message as "I'm dinner already". When I saw her at the Ibar I just said how are you doing. A loss for sex but also spared withdrawal pain, because when I'm staying longer that one a night with a woman that I really like things quickly get personal, and at the time of leaving one takes the risk of opening himself to misery keeping in contact. Still recommend her for 100% GFE. She stands by the ladie's room.
Sorry to hear that my friend. But I know you will find a replacement soon. And tis good to take a night off now and then to recharge.
Happy hunting!
SeverusSnape
05-12-16, 10:37
Sometimes the girls will be super nice to me and suggest that they can give me a massage in my room if I like. 1 girl suggested come over the next morning and I would just pay her to massage me, and not pay the shop. I agreed to this and she came over the next morning and she asked me to massage her one thing led to another and we started kissing and getting in bed. She never asked for a fee but I knew that I would need to give her something extra more then the basic 600 baht for the massage room fee.
Pattaya has certainly earned his name as the sex capital of the world! I spend a lot of time at the Windmill bar where you can finger fuck girls for 100 tip. Even stick your finger up their ass.
Pattaya is certainly a unique place and I will certainly be back.I never bought a massage girl back to my room. As I always fuck them in the first meeting itself. But your experience is great. Maybe I would try it soon.
Spot on about Windmill. And the same is the case in "Baby Dolls" bar too. I did not even tip, just bought LDs. In in a 1 hour time spent at BabyDolls I had. Finger fucked both and ass, inserted different stuff in pussy (from ice cubes to banana), and licked pussy.
Old New Guy
05-12-16, 10:37
The one closest to the Soi Bukhao end of the alley in particular had 3 or 4 really cute girls.
I remember years ago taking a supercute slim one from there to my resort almost on Pattaya North. She would then meet at night on her own. At the same time I was giving money and fluids to an oldie FL with bolt-ons aptly called Gin Tonic, and mingled with her friends sitting on the floor of a shop before disco time. At that time I first realized that no matter how much time one waste with'em, nothing is learned. Good times.
On Thursday had an excellent Thai Body Massage on 2nd rd by a cute girl Julie, from Issan, she did great but not available for extras! They actually gave me baggy pants to wear and Chinese peasant type top, LOL. But, I did like this cute girl, may go back again and see if things change. 1 HR body massage quite good, 200 baht and I tipped her 100.
Then met up with Old New Guy for lunch at Central Festival and then we checked out Soi 7 and Soi 3 together. ONG Did not much care for Soi 7. I on the other hand found a tall, slim cute one dancing and wanted to hit that bar. ONG Said it might be a LB. And I asked one of the girls standing beside her, as she danced, and she said yes, LB. Hahaha. Thanks ONG, I almost fell that one. Actually to me looked like an 18 year old, flaca Dominican from Puerto Plata ( both skin color and looks ) but tall! ( maybe that was the clue). Boy they can act so lady like and have zero guy attributes, and was maybe 19. Go fIgure! Lesson learned. LOL.
We then went to Soi 3 and I found a massage place I liked and I decided to get another massage with a cute girl from Buriram. (yeah they are all from Isaan or Buriram, it seems, and I definitely like the Buriram ones better, but my sample size is too small and not statistically valid. Hope to get to a good sample size in the next few days). Well, ONG decided he was not interested and said bye. And I think got back on his bike. I then went in to a private room with this cute girl called Ooh, 21 very schoolgirl charm and playfulness. I went for the aroma oil massage at 450 and this girl was playful as hell and knew how to turn on the charm. Anyway, I had a good time and she wanted to offer only a HJ happy ending, which was surprising, but later came around to FS for $1500!! Tried to get her to come down and she was not budging all the way to the end and so what the heck, I gave in. Funny, bubbly, giggling girl.
On the way back at the end of Soi 3 popped in to check out the fish bowl line up at Honey 1. 2,500, 3000, 3,500 and 5000 baht ( VIP ) were the options the mgr guy quoted me. Interesting that he asked if I was by myself or a group. My guess is that they may offer a group discount. Which is why the Chinese and indians show up here in hordes. The only ones doable IMO were the 3500 baht ones, the VIP ones I think you have to ask for and that's a private audience. ( but I could be mistaken ). Maybe try it next week , perhaps a couple of days before I leave, for comparison purposes. So far, at least to me it seems that if one can get a high quality girl from Insomnia for 2 or 2.5 K , after dancing and building a rapport it could have better multi day potential, that these other places may not. Anyways, I plan to get another at least a dozen massages in the next week, so let's see if I luck into any cute ones that are available to come to VT 6.
I think staying out at Insomnia until 7 am for 4 out of 7 nights, drained me of day time activities so I will be adjusting that schedule on my part and keeping my Insomnia time to a max of 3 hours from 1230-330 here on out. That was the lesson learned.
( the girl from Insomnia Fii from Buriram, keeps calling, but so far I have not felt like I want to restart that one because then it would mean giving up on my other plans ).
On the way back, I walked back from Soi 3 to Soi 6, it was about 1030 pm and decided to see how Soi 6 looked at that time. Many places were busy but I dunno, Soi 6 may not be for me.
I then walked down Soi 6 to Beach RD, and since I had never done that walk, decided to see what this beach RD FL were all about. Walked from Soi 6 intersection to just past Mike's Mall and saw really nothing doable, except for 2 girls from Isaan, who wanted to go as a team, for 1000 baht, 22 yrs and sort of may even fit right in at one the WS clubs. Other than that, zippo. I'm sure the fact that it was 11 pm had something to do with it.
I decided to walk back to VT6 and decided to call it an early night. It's now about 6 am and my plan is to get another Thai massage (maybe around the area that Uncle V recommened) this am around 11 am, and get to Kinnaree place by 1 pm. And then nap, get another massage, get some dinner and hit Insomnia after 1230 am.
Question: Does anyone know of the Thai Massage Schools like in BKK. My body massages were not at that level and I remember last visit (eons ago of course) I had been to the premier school in BKK (a wide and tall almost 8 story building Masage School) and had a fantastic professional massage for about 2 1/2 hours on a package deal that they offered.
So, is there any such place here in Pattaya?
Mr Enternational
05-13-16, 01:31
We then went to Soi 3 and I found a massage place I liked and I decided to get another massage with a cute girl from Buriram. (yeah they are all from Isaan or Buriram, it seems, and I definitely like the Buriram ones better, but my sample size is too small and not statistically valid. Hope to get to a good sample size in the next few days).Buriram IS Isaan. While Buriram is both a city and a state (province) within the northeast region of Thailand, Isaan is what the northeast region is called.
And like you, I always meet some bad chicks from Buriram.
I then walked down Soi 6 to Beach RD, and since I had never done that walk, decided to see what this beach RD FL were all about. Walked from Soi 6 intersection to just past Mike's Mall and saw really nothing doable, except for 2 girls from Isaan, who wanted to go as a team, for 1000 baht, 22 yrs and sort of may even fit right in at one the WS clubs. Other than that, zippo. I'm sure the fact that it was 11 pm had something to do with it.Wrong end! There are not too many SWs down that end. And the ones that are, are usually old hags. You actually should have started at Mike's and worked your way down towards Walking Street.
Buriram IS Isaan. While Buriram is both a city and a state (province) within the northeast region of Thailand, Isaan is what the northeast region is called.
And like you, I always meet some bad chicks from Buriram.
Wrong end! There are not too many SWs down that end. And the ones that are, are usually old hags. You actually should have started at Mike's and worked your way down towards Walking Street.1. Re Buriram: Heck, can't believe I didn't look that up on Wiki, like I usually do. Feel like a real idiot! LOL.
2. Re Beach RD, I guess that makes sense, as you get closer to WS? Will do the walk for the other half, clearly I missed the good half.
Thanks, Mr ENT.
Buriram may have more Khmer looking girl than Lao looking ones, so here individual preferences may be.
Buriram may have more Khmer looking girl than Lao looking ones, so here individual preferences may be.Thanks, just read the Wikis of both Isan and Buriram. Interesting read, the whole Laos vs Khmer backgrounds, and the difference in culture such as sticky rice, the role of the water buffalo, marriage, dowries, politics and political impact on Thai government, and the small (or so it seems) religious differences. Given the shortage of physicians and not as good internet access ( but better highway infrastructure surprisingly ), I would think many of the Isan girls in Pattaya and BKK in many ways are probably happy to be out of there, as they probably also have more individual freedom away from Isan. Interesting that there was no mention of the Thai King's role in their sub- culture.
I suspect why some girls say they are from Isan vs Buriram, is to distinguish themselves as part of the Laos vs, Khmer culture and roots ? I think I will research this stuff some more ...( quite interesting actually). Having had a Laos woman hairdresser ( when I actually had a good crop hair) in the past ( and who was character ) my small sample size thus far suggests that for whatever reason I tend to like the Buriram ones better. Don't know, but I will be trying to understand this more....
Banana Boi
05-13-16, 04:27
I think it was Honey 2 you visited on soi 3. Honey 1 is near VT6. I'm not a soapie fan either I find them repetitive with girls and their set routines. If I go I never check out a lineup before 5 pm. Huge difference between what is there at 3 pm and 5 pm.
and get to Kinnaree place by 1 pm. And then nap, get another massage, get some dinner and hit Insomnia after 1230 am.It won't be good at 1 pm. Also be warned on a Friday there will be a ton of guys there making it not the most enjoyable place unless you've already hooked your girl (ie. Had a session with one and she wants to repeat with you so she won't leave).
I think it was Honey 2 you visited on soi 3. Honey 1 is near VT6. I'm not a soapie fan either I find them repetitive with girls and their set routines. If I go I never check out a lineup before 5 pm. Huge difference between what is there at 3 pm and 5 pm.
It won't be good at 1 pm. Also be warned on a Friday there will be a ton of guys there making it not the most enjoyable place unless you've already hooked your girl (ie. Had a session with one and she wants to repeat with you so she won't leave).Thanks, BB. As I was writing that post, I was actually asking myself was it H 1 or H 2, as the only other one I did visit was Honey 1.
It seems that H 2 is somewhat better (am I correct?). And it looks like that at that location they are also pretty close to big competition with Sabai Room (unless it is all the same owners?). Ok, when I do go I will try to get there around 6 pm, as you suggest.
Will be going to Kinnaree in a few hours !
Banana Boi
05-13-16, 04:42
Ok, when I do go I will try to get there around 6 pm, as you suggest.
Will be going to Kinnaree in a few hours !No, the place closes at 7 pm so don't arrive at 6 pm. Get there by 2 pm and watch the girls come in. Drinks are cheap. Food is good and cheap. If you have the option to go tomorrow (Saturday) instead, go Saturday for the free BBQ. Very good food.
Yes, Honey 2 is way better than Honey 1 imo but my friend who lives in Pattaya likes Honey 1 more. I prefer soi 6 and Kinnaree over both anyways.
No, the place closes at 7 pm so don't arrive at 6 pm. Get there by 2 pm and watch the girls come in. Drinks are cheap. Food is good and cheap. If you have the option to go tomorrow (Saturday) instead, go Saturday for the free BBQ. Very good food.
Yes, Honey 2 is way better than Honey 1 imo but my friend who lives in Pattaya likes Honey 1 more. I prefer soi 6 and Kinnaree over both anyways.Yeah, my bad. What I meant to say was go to Honey 2 at about 6 pm, sometime next week.
I will arrive at Kinnaree today, at about 2 pm after I drop off laundry at VT 6 3RD floor place and get a massage, get something to eat and head to Kinnaree by about 2 pm max.
If, I like you, find that I like Kinnaree quite a bit, then I will go tomorrow as well. But, will there be more guys on a Sat because of the free buffet. The free buffet part is really not that important for me. Since, it's Friday here, what are the best days for Kinnaree with the best guy to girl ratio, and quality of the girls (I suspect you have been there more than 10 times) ?
Banana Boi
05-13-16, 05:22
Yes, I've been more than 10 times in the past 6 months, but not many more. I find there are girls at Kinnaree daily but pretty sure I've never been Sunday or Monday. Like any other bar, there may be a couple of girls who only work weekends.
Hope the lineup is still good for you. I haven't been for 6 weeks now.
The buffets are technically not free. You have to spend 900(?) baht on room fees and drinks. Having said that, pretty sure no one is checking.
Old New Guy
05-13-16, 08:45
I've worked the place this morning from 3 to 6 and since I became an addict discomonger I must say that is the place with more stunners I ever saw. In comparison Hollywood Patong even at its best time could't hold an candle to it.
I've counted at least 4 stunners, with that I mean around 25 yrs model material, tall, slim but not skinny, perfect faces with no hints of plastic work, no bolt-on, no tattoos, perfect teeth, etc. Only one still had to complete dental braces work.
There were two by the pool tables, one was take by a very average foreigner 35 yrs or so, the other was even better, but was just sitting bored. Another bored one in white with a perfect 10 face by tables at the first bar downstair, and another 2 or 3 I've seen coming and go or on a different night. Only one or two had a slightly more evident high-end hooker look.
Impressing really. Count of hotties and cuties was also good with some 5 to 10 in total, most were taken. Also a good number of sexy or trophy hookers. BTW I spoke to the tall one at the RC, she's approachable and have good english. She said to be 1. 72 m, I thought it was more. Pretty face but not breathtaking from close-up.
These are just objective indications for the picky younger mongers which are willing to spend. Why don't go ahead with them and report some details. Most members here will never enjoy such an experience, so be generous it telling it at least!
Old New Guy
05-13-16, 09:04
Interesting that there was no mention of the Thai King's role in their sub- culture.The King of Thailand is the King of all Thais, equally loved and respected by all, at least so we're taught.
This includes e. G. The Sino-Thai community, Isaan people for which the Royal family did and does much, I've seen that personally many times.
Now there is some people that is not "true Thai" although some have nationality or at least an ID card, e. G. immigrant workers, some displaced from Myanmar, Muslims communities harboring terrorism in the deep south, of course for them is a different story.
PirateMorgan
05-13-16, 09:19
I have been living in Pattaya now for a grand total of 15 days. And I must say that Thaifriendly is in a BIG way one universal working girl house. For better or for worse. I was a BIG user of Filipinocupid when I live in Cebu not long ago but the hooker element was no where near what this is about. A girl I met yesterday on TF came today for money. On the site she looked like the most beautiful girl I had ever seen. Nope. Not close in person. And another one threatened to call the police and I had already payed her just to leave. Careful out there!
Old New Guy
05-13-16, 09:33
And another one threatened to call the police and I had already payed her just to leave. Careful out there!Bluff. Thai police knows better, fortunately they are know to not side with crazed hookers or scammers. You should have called 1155 (english spoken) right away, not paid a dime, and watched her run away.
FLs at the disco pay for their make-up, transportation and drinks every night, either have a customer or not. It's their business risk investment. Why it should be different for an online woman.
Christian G
05-13-16, 11:25
If, I like you, find that I like Kinnaree quite a bit, then I will go tomorrow as well. But, will there be more guys on a Sat because of the free buffet. The free buffet part is really not that important for me. Since, it's Friday here, what are the best days for Kinnaree with the best guy to girl ratio, and quality of the girls (I suspect you have been there more than 10 times) ?Personally I avoid the Buffet days, too many guys around and also many men just spend alot of time for drink and keep girls busy only for drinks.
Banana Boi
05-13-16, 11:41
many men just spend alot of time for drink and keep girls busy only for drinks.Agree many men there do this. The first time I went with my favorite girl there a guy must have bought her 12 LD's. I sat near her just in case I could swoop in. To my surprise the guy suddenly left. She hopped right over and when I asked why he didn't go boom boom she said he only wants to buy us drinks. She was hammered and horny and we had a blast in the room.
Hey guys I am thinking to go to Pattaya and then a side trip to the island off of the coast. Do you generally get same quality of girls as in Bangkok? Thanks.
Mr Enternational
05-13-16, 13:30
Hey guys I am thinking to go to Pattaya and then a side trip to the island off of the coast. Do you generally get same quality of girls as in Bangkok? Thanks.The island off the coast, Coral Island, is not really a side trip. It is a 45 minute boat ride. You go in the morning and go to the beach and come back in the afternoon.
Quality is in the eye of the beholder. They are all Thai women so I figure it would be the same. There is nobody in their hometowns separating the women by "quality" before they get on the buses to Bangkok or Pattaya.
Mr Enternational
05-13-16, 13:41
A girl I met yesterday on TF came today for money. On the site she looked like the most beautiful girl I had ever seen. Nope. Not close in person. Don't you know that Thai women are masters of disguise? On 15 different pictures they can look like 15 different people. When I first met my last girlfriend online, from her pictures she appeared to be short, small, light skinned with straight hair. When I finally met her she was tall, darker, and thick with naturally curly hair. They usually attribute it to the camera or an app on the phone. But I notice the same thing with Dominican chicks. They can take the hell out of a picture, but when you meet them in person most are not so glamorous looking.
Uncle Volodya
05-13-16, 14:35
I've worked the place this morning from 3 to 6 and since I became an addict discomonger I must say that is the place with more stunners I ever saw. In comparison Hollywood Patong even at its best time could't hold an candle to it.
I've counted at least 4 stunners, with that I mean around 25 yrs model material, tall, slim but not skinny, perfect faces with no hints of plastic work, no bolt-on, no tattoos, perfect teeth, etc. Only one still had to complete dental braces work.
There were two by the pool tables, one was take by a very average foreigner 35 yrs or so, the other was even better, but was just sitting bored. Another bored one in white with a perfect 10 face by tables at the first bar downstair, and another 2 or 3 I've seen coming and go or on a different night. Only one or two had a slightly more evident high-end hooker look.
Impressing really. Count of hotties and cuties was also good with some 5 to 10 in total, most were taken. Also a good number of sexy or trophy hookers. BTW I spoke to the tall one at the RC, she's approachable and have good english. She said to be 1. 72 m, I thought it was more. Pretty face but not breathtaking from close-up.
These are just objective indications for the picky younger mongers which are willing to spend. Why don't go ahead with them and report some details. Most members here will never enjoy such an experience, so be generous it telling it at least!ONG my friend!
Why don't you go ahead and take a shot at picking up these girls? You may be surprised. And you will never know if you don't try.
What do you have to lose? Your dignity?
Anyone who is on this board has already lost that long ago. (just kidding) 555.
Old New Guy
05-13-16, 14:51
ONG my friend!
Why don't you go ahead and take a shot at picking up these girls? You may be surprised. And you will never know if you don't try.
What do you have to lose? Your dignity?
Anyone who is on this board has already lost that long ago. (just kidding) 555.I agree. But in reality what I look for myself is a good balance of looks and performance. In the end, beauty is a fetish like another, one can talk about it without being dependent from it.
Uncle Volodya
05-13-16, 16:03
I agree. But in reality what I look for myself is a good balance of looks and performance. In the end, beauty is a fetish like another, one can talk about it without being dependent from it.More power to you brother. We have to control our base instincts and can't let them roam free all the time. 555.
But sometimes those stunners can surprise. I had one back in August that was super hot and great in bed. Tall, "blonde", with nice see cups (fake but the real expensive kind that feel real). We repeated several times and she evne came to me one afternoon for a very satisfying quickie tha I didn't even pay for (OK I did buy a rather extravagant lunch for her).
I probably would have kept it up with her but she had the most annoying squeaky voice and over the top "Barbie doll" mannerisms. She was never rude or unkind. But those quirks eventually did get to me.
Whoohoo! Back in Pattaya! I'm going to try for more, shorter reports as they are less likely to digress into only vaguely related subjects like flying squirrel sex and hopefully unrelated ones like the toilets in Narita airport.
Took Mr. T from Suvarnabhumi to my latest experiment, the Talay 6 condos. Late night check-in was no problem: The guard just asked my first name and handed me the key thing. Nice place, but my unit has a lot of those incredibly tiny ants. On the brighter side, they ensured that I did not sleep alone on my first night. Lots of company.
Today I headed to the Bar de Poste for my first attempt at ejaculation involving someone other than my hand in the last few months. Transportation will be problematic this trip as my usual mode, the moto taxis, have helmets that were clearly designed for toddlers or perhaps daredevil hamsters. Usually they are good for a laugh as I jokingly pound them onto my head, but there is a complication: A bit of a history buff, three weeks ago I decided to learn more about the scalping thing. One thing I learned was that one should whenever possible do the scalping to someone else, though, frankly, after forty staples got put into my head I sort of lost interest in the whole idea. If anyone else is interested, the way to do it if you don't have sharp objects around is to fall backwards off a ladder from something over ten feet and break your fall with your head on a ledge.
As a side benefit I managed to damage my right hand in the experiment, so I was not able to practice a lot of sex before flying over. Some say that over-preparation is the cause of my repeated failures to launch. I'll find out soon. Yes, I did try the left hand but it did not turn out well. Just like the bizarre virgin attraction, I can say that going with the least qualified and experienced candidate is just plain not a good idea.
Well, we got through two paragraphs before a major digression. Better than my usual. At any rate, I was not about to pound Ken or Barbie's helmet onto my seriously nasty scabs, so I decided to hoof it. It was mid-afternoon. It was warm. I arrived a complete mess. Cold towelettes were heaped upon me. I was accosted by a chunky young thing. I figured what the hell: Start low and work my way up. By the time I leave I hope to be banging reasonably presentable partners. Hopes get crushed daily.
Eventually there was success, though I did get an assist. She had nice boobs one of the few benefits of chunkiness that may have been real. Lots of fun to play with to help things along. And damned nice targets, too. One odd thing that I do not recall from my visit last time: The payment system is different from my usual haunts, BJ bars like Bliss and The One Whose Name We Cannot Type Here. At the end of the session I tried to give her a tip, but she refused it with some rather confusing faux-English. I tried again, explaining that it was a tip. She finally took it but seemed troubled. Then, at checkout, I got a much smaller bill than expected. Their system is, I assume (still on my bucket list), like Soi 6 where you pay the bar for the room and the young (or not) lady (or not) for the services, not like the all-inclusive payout at, say, Bliss. I quickly handed over more money to Miss Fun Tits and was on my sweaty way.
A few hours later it was Walking Street time. As usual I started at Baccara to see the eye candy, then headed to more realistic pastures. Not much to write about. Not bad, not great. Popped into Heaven Above and found that they had added a lesbian show. I got seated in a prime viewing spot which was initially not a great coup as the "lesbians" were pretty industrial quality, kind of like they usually are at the Windmill, but there weren't any gynecology wannabes doing exams like there. I was quickly grabbed by the girl they sat me beside and eventually got her a drink, partly in hopes that it would reduce the stench of her breath, a stench that could actually work its way upwind.
Fortunately it was soon time for her to go sway on stage and, even better, the vaguely bovine lezzies were done with their flopping around. Even better yet, they were replaced by two really quite attractive "lesbians". Not drop-dead gorgeous but certainly up around an 8 or so. The only real problem was that together they had enough acreage of tattoos to cover a medium sized pachyderm or three quarters of the previous lesbians. Still, worth watching. This was obviously a lot more real than the typical lezzie show where the sole qualification is that they have their private parts no more than two time zones away from each other's. I know it was real because they were cackling hysterically just like women do when they see my dick and say how hot they are in between bouts of uncontrollable laughter.
In truth it was a pretty good show, though one had the idea that they were not going to reach awesome simultaneous orgasms. They went through all the motions dry humping, groping, scissoring, etc. , but were clearly enjoying it in a very non-sexual way. Girls just want to have fun.
I tried Crazy House for the first time. Can't recall what that used to be. They had an average lineup and a more conventional lesbian show, I. E. , they sat on their asses and occasionally touched places that even your perverted cousin could get away with when he was baby sitting you.
The island off the coast, Coral Island, is not really a side trip. It is a 45 minute boat ride. You go in the morning and go to the beach and come back in the afternoon.
Quality is in the eye of the beholder. They are all Thai women so I figure it would be the same. There is nobody in their hometowns separating the women by "quality" before they get on the buses to Bangkok or Pattaya.On this topic, Where are a couple of nice spots to take a 2 day shot side mini vacation away from Pattaya with a chick, then back? And how you advise getting there and where to stay?
Uncle Volodya
05-13-16, 20:33
On this topic, Where are a couple of nice spots to take a 2 day shot side mini vacation away from Pattaya with a chick, then back? And how you advise getting there and where to stay?I liked Koh Chang. It's about 4. 5 hours bus+ferry ride away from Patts.
You can book the trip through most of the little tourist kiosks you can find all through in Pattaya.
Lovely Island, nice beaches and good nightlife too in the main beach town.
Whoohoo! Back in Pattaya! I'm going to try for more, shorter reports SNIP.Great reports! Don't worry about the length, very entertaining.
Bule2004.
Wolvenvacht
05-14-16, 08:16
On this topic, Where are a couple of nice spots to take a 2 day shot side mini vacation away from Pattaya with a chick, then back? And how you advise getting there and where to stay?Take a taxi to Bangkok and explore (the town with) her?
So, my day actually started out with me feeling pretty good and fresh, I went for a massage close to 1 pm at Rhee massage on 2nd RD. Best massage lady todate for me, but seemed like a purely proFessional massage set up, She did not even ask me to take off my light weight golf shorts. Her name is Prae and her English was for a massage lady in her late 20's was simply excellent. She said she learned by watching TV. LOL. But, massage trained in one of the professional Masaage schools in BKK. Thai body massage, 1 HR, excellent, strong, 200 baht and 100 tip.
Anyways, came back and changed and headed out to Kinnaree. As luck would have it, my moto taxi guy got totally lost (even though I though I did say Jomtien), because I thought it was really well known and I guess it isn't. Took me to Greenery, rather than Kinnaree. LOL. Anyways, with the help of some Aussie blokes in a bar there, he was given directions again by this guy who liives in Pattaya. Despite that, my taxi guy could not find the place and we were going up and down Pratumrak HIll RD (?) and he had to go find another taxi guy to give him further directions. FInally found the place and right away I was super impressed by the decor and the ambiance, but most of the time they played country music, which I hate (although both my ex from Texas and daughter are serious country music fans). Unfortunately, due to the delay in finding Kinnaree, I got there around 245 pm, and not before 2 pm as Banana Boi had recommended. The place was hopping and the male clientele mostly 65,70 and higher. I only saw 2-3 guys under 50. Anyways, I did like a quick rough count (not including those in the rooms) about 25-30 guys and 25-30 girls. I'd say the girls were really well dressed, most of them in tight one piece dresses. I'd say 2 were 9's, another 10-12 were 7's and 8's and the rest below 7.
The girls I liked were busy and so I decided to wait and take my time. Big frickin mistake! I don't usually get headaches, but after my 1. 5 Cubas, from out of nowhere, I got a really bad headache (I think for sure I had developed sinusitis from being in Ibar and Insomnia all these nights, for about 30 hours in total over 5 nights! Anyways, I thought it would go away, it didn't and I switched to just Coke Zero and decided to wait for the only girl I was interested in. Well, she was, I am sure, the most sought after (pretty tall for a Thai and a Japanese looking face. BTW Banana Boi, I did not see your PM with the recommended names until today). 3 other girls lightly strode by me and stroked my arm and I was not ready to pull the trigger (yeah I can be super stubborn most of the time, LOL).
So, this chick that I was waiting for, did 3 customers in the about 3 hours I was there (a good looking American in his early 50's, a super ugly almost super fat, gay looking creep who was either French or from northern Spain, I guess) and now she was partying and drinking with this strange 70 plus guy, super thin almost like a stick, with extra long locks of old grey hair, like a rock musician from the bygone eras and he was at a table with this chick and maybe 2 other girls and they were all drinking up a storm. And, it did not look like they were going to stop anytime soon. Well, I paid my 560 tab, tipped 140 for future recognition, potentially by the bartenders. At this point, it was like 630 pm and things were dying down, and I decided with my head ache to call it quits and came back to VT 6.
By this time, my headache and sinus pressure was pretty bad, so I decided I had no choice but to start the antibiotics that my ENT back home had just given me, and went to sleep about 8 pm, after eating a bit. Woke up at about 2 am feeling just fine and shaved, showered and was at Ibar by 3 am. Went up to Insomnia right away, and danced and partied as usual, and at about 6 am picked up this 9, 21 Y. O. who was also a great dancer and we danced for at least 30-45 minutes. LT For 2500. She was a bit drunk (but not too much), she tells me she only got there at 3 am, but had 3 beers in one hour. So, got to the room and Honey (yeah she tells me her Thai name is also same same, which I doubt) and this girl talks and talks and pours her heart out. About the guys she had met at Ibar recently (one particular bad one, who she said was 50-50 Japanese and European from the last few days (I think it may the guy ONG talked about, the Juan in a million who ONG said is 50-50 Koean and French, because I vaguely remember seeing her at his table days earlier. Soon she gives me a bunch of info about her boyfriend from Deustchland who visits her once a year and gives her money. Honey is from Isan, very striking looking and perfect figure, really firm young tits and ass, just the way I like it, about 5 ' 3 " tall. About 30 minutes later, after talking about her parents, and their holiday to Cambodia (they live pretty close to the border but she is Thai) and tons of shit I learned from her about this holiday, she goes to take a shower.
Then she asks me to take a shower, which was the plan, and then she tells me to be quick! I playfully ask why, and she says I want to touch you! Haha. Anyways in bed we caress for quite some time and then she starts kissing me intensely and she starts biting my lower lip. But I like it and it's all good. This continues for a good 15 or more minutes. She then asks if it okay to play with my banana, LOL, and soon enough it does not take long for things to heat up passionately, and we then finish and go to sleep. She leaves at about 230 pm (just a short while ago) because she has to meet her roommate for lunch and declines my offer to have lunch together. But says she will see me at night at Insomnia. She does not ask for my number and I don't ask for hers either. I suspect the sort of arms length this pm may have been due to the German boyfriend and not wanting to be seen in public with me during the daylight hours, now that she was not liquored up.
Anyways, it was memorable, and she is super nice girl, and very talkative and I liked that. Man, she loves rain and apparently has been wanting it to rain now for so many days and loves to sleep hearing the rain drops (don't we all). ,but we did cuddle, caress and stay practically intertwined all night long and talked again for an hour before she left. And I do like that, just like her I guess. But, I don't think she quite fully fell for my charm offensive! One tidbit, Her girlfriend roommate she tells me does guys for 1000 if they are young and hot looking and but they both ask for more, as the age and looks of the guy goes south. Now, that is quite a bit different from the chicas in Latin America and the Latin Caribbean, at least from my experience. I have a feeling I'm just going to keep it light, if I see her at Insomnia again, if see her tonight. My instincts tell me she thinks she' can do better, but she was alone at 630 am. So who knows. I think I'll try to find another cute dancer again tonight, after my aroma therapy oil massage by Prae.
A couple of pics. But she is not photogenic at all and way better looking in person and super great body! ( the picture got rotated by the ISG upload, tried to rotate the pic and then upload again, to neutralize the rotating by ISG, but it did not work. My bad !)
Old New Guy
05-14-16, 11:33
A couple of pics. But she is not photogenic at all and way better looking in person and super great body!She's pretty for sure! And a much better package than the timid skinny fuck I got for 2 K. Strange that I didn't saw you at Insomnia this morning or the other nights, but I see that you're staying horny my friend, ahaha.
Banana Boi
05-14-16, 11:38
Glad I finally convinced someone to try Kinnaree. Most cab drivers don't know where it is but I thought I had all those cabbies outside VT6 trained! One tip is to bring up the address of the club IN THAI and show that to the taxi driver.
In case you had issues finding a taxi back, take a left out of Kinnaree, walk uphill to Phratamnak alley 4, then a left walking downhill to the New Nordic condo development near the 7-11 where there is a taxi stand 200 baht to Central Festival.
Sorry to hear about your headache. Country music does that to me too. Weird I never heard country music in there before. It's usually 80's rock.
Hope there was enough there to entice you back though. It's a good alternative to soi 6 every afternoon, especially on a hot day.
Spirits Hunt
05-14-16, 12:45
Hi.
I be taking bus from ekkamai to pattaya but what I need to find out is where does the bus stop?
Will it stop at anywhere at center area?
Thanks.
Uncle Volodya
05-14-16, 12:48
She's pretty for sure! And a much better package than the timid skinny fuck I got for 2 K. Strange that I didn't saw you at Insomnia this morning or the other nights, but I see that you're staying horny my friend, ahaha.Hey ONG I have the copyright on that line! You will hear form my solicitors. 555.
Haven I am glad you are finding your groove! So jealous of you bastards. I miss Patts so much! It doesn't help that these girls keep messaging me to remind me what I am missing.
She's pretty for sure! And a much better package than the timid skinny fuck I got for 2 K. Strange that I didn't saw you at Insomnia this morning or the other nights, but I see that you're staying horny my friend, ahaha.ONG, I don't know where you were in Insomnia, but as you may have seen, I said I arrived at about 3 am, and left around 7 am. And, you know me, I don't sit, I move around a lot, and I dance. So, were you there during the time I was there? If you were during that time, I don't know how you could have missed me? I expect I will there get around 130-2 tonight. Just finished up my workout for tonight, a Thai body massage followed by an oil massage (the second one to the health of Uncle V). At 500 plus tips, surely a great workout ! Haha.
Old New Guy
05-14-16, 14:01
Hi.
I be taking bus from ekkamai to pattaya but what I need to find out is where does the bus stop?
Will it stop at anywhere at center area?
At the north bus station. Do not take a minibus, as it would take forever.
Glad I finally convinced someone to try Kinnaree. Most cab drivers don't know where it is but I thought I had all those cabbies outside VT6 trained! One tip is to bring up the address of the club IN THAI and show that to the taxi driver.
In case you had issues finding a taxi back, take a left out of Kinnaree, walk uphill to Phratamnak alley 4, then a left walking downhill to the New Nordic condo development near the 7-11 where there is a taxi stand 200 baht to Central Festival.
Sorry to hear about your headache. Country music does that to me too. Weird I never heard country music in there before. It's usually 80's rock.
Hope there was enough there to entice you back though. It's a good alternative to soi 6 every afternoon, especially on a hot day.1. Yeah, it was a young guy, I think new on the job. Yeah, and no taxi outside Kinnaree on the way back and I had to take the moto taxi guy. Always a bit of a risk even with a helmet.
2. Sorry, can't blame my headache on the country music. It was my sinuses. Yeah, they did rotate to jazz, some blues and some rock, but during the 3 hours I was there, I would say a good hour maybe was frickin country. And given the type the gents there, and how poorly most were dressed, it was off-putting and unsettling.
But not for the fantastic ambiance (love the set up of the round tables and the beautiful Venetian masks) , and the beautifully clad women, I was thinking maybe this is where old farts come to die! Maybe me too soon. LOL.
I do intend to return there on Monday or Tuesday at about 1 pm, armed with the new info from you in your PM, and see I can finish off what I never really started yesterday!
Hey ONG I have the copyright on that line! You will hear form my solicitors. 555.
Haven I am glad you are finding your groove! So jealous of you bastards. I miss Patts so much! It doesn't help that these girls keep messaging me to remind me what I am missing.Haha. Your solicitors? Which one? The girl in Soi 6. Or any of the other sexy solicitors there?
Really, they message you when you are back in home base on your cell? Hmmm. I always keep different physical phones for each country (activated only when I am there) , and a few of them have a specific email I use just for them. And some others, I contact via Facebook via a dummy account. So, when I am at home base, I live in peace, quiet and harmony, and keep my other universes separate. It's only logical. I think Spock would approve.
Uncle Volodya
05-14-16, 14:42
Haha. Your solicitors? Which one? The girl in Soi 6. Or any of the other sexy solicitors there?
Really, they message you when you are back in home base on your cell? Hmmm. I always keep different physical phones for each country (activated only when I am there) , and a few of them have a specific email I use just for them. And some others, I contact via Facebook via a dummy account. So, when I am at home base, I live in peace, quiet and harmony, and keep my other universes separate. It's only logical. I think Spock would approve.I keep in touch with my "solicitors" with a social media messaging app called Line. All the Thai girls are on it.
You can message, talk, and even videochat.
Sometimes they even send me a sexy pic or two. Which helps me get through the long cold winters here.
Spirits Hunt
05-14-16, 17:40
At the north bus station. Do not take a minibus, as it would take forever.Thank you for the advise. I be taking the "first class express bus" (what I found it "call" on internet).
I booked LK Renaissance Hotel at pattaya. If the bus stop at the north, any suggestion what should I take to get to the hotel.
Travelling to thailand first time.
Thank you.
Old New Guy
05-14-16, 18:09
I booked LK Renaissance Hotel at pattaya. If the bus stop at the north, any suggestion what should I take to get to the hotel.
If you are arriving at the BKK airport take a door-to-door service to the hotel. Same if are travelling from an hotel in the city. https://ticket.belltravelservice.com/customer/Webhome.
Thank you for the advise. I be taking the "first class express bus" (what I found it "call" on internet).
I booked LK Renaissance Hotel at pattaya. If the bus stop at the north, any suggestion what should I take to get to the hotel.
Travelling to thailand first time.
Thank you.From the Pattaya North bus station take a private Songtaw as you will not have many other options to LK Renaissaince (good hotel, fantastic breakfast, pool and gym! Good choice). Songtaw may charge you 200 bt but so it be for a one time trip as it is too far to walk. And as a first timer I should not take the bahtbus, as you might have to switch 2 times and then still do not know where to get off at Second Road, with another relatively long walk. Good luck and have fun.
I keep in touch with my "solicitors" with a social media messaging app called Line. All the Thai girls are on it.
You can message, talk, and even videochat.
Sometimes they even send me a sexy pic or two. Which helps me get through the long cold winters here.And you can have Line or WeChat in the daily home smartphone by logging in with the access created with the mongering phone.
So totally indipendent.
Do any of you local guys know of an English speaking dermatologist? I'm looking to get some minor work done in Pattaya.
Old New Guy
05-15-16, 09:48
Do any of you local guys know of an English speaking dermatologist? I'm looking to get some minor work done in Pattaya.Normally Thai doctors speak English as part of their professional education. For more advice check and ask on some general forum like Thaivisa.com.
ONG, I don't know where you were in Insomnia, but as you may have seen, I said I arrived at about 3 am, and left around 7 am. And, you know me, I don't sit, I move around a lot, and I dance. So, were you there during the time I was there? If you were during that time, I don't know how you could have missed me? I expect I will there get around 130-2 tonight. Just finished up my workout for tonight, a Thai body massage followed by an oil massage (the second one to the health of Uncle V). At 500 plus tips, surely a great workout ! Haha.So, I get to Insomnia at about 3 am, it's Saturday night, the place is packed and guys outnumber the girls by about 50 PC, and there's a ton of legit office and shop girls there (can tell by their age, figure and groups of 4-6 etc.). So, after a drink, and seeing the lowest quality talent todate on my several visits, I think tonight may be the night to check out some of the other clubs and take the long hike to Mixx. The place is not packed at all but just no quality talent whatsoever. Leave without a drink and head over to 808. It's nearly 4 am now and 808 is super, super packed, tons of brothers and again guy to gal ratio closer to 1. 75:1. Can't even get by very far from the door. So, head over to Pier Disco and it's dead. So, now I head back to Insomnia and now wait for a good 5 whole minutes to cool off from the heat and sweat at the top is stairs as entrance with the AC above.
Work my way to back, carefully looking again to see if Honey from last night is around. Don't see her and go get a drink at the far bar to the left. Place is jelling, more girls have come in and I am swinging a bit to the music.
Get a tap on the shoulder from the back, turn around and there is a smiling chick telling me they (her and her guy) think I'm cool. Get introduced to a German guy, who does not speak a lick of English, in his 30's nice guy. This guy ask me if I am German and speak German (haha LOL. I took a year in HS, but enough now for a taxicab and a vocabulary of maybe 25 words).
Anyways, the guy now says I look like a German music guy on TV. Again LOL and ROFLMAO). Moi?
So, these 2 are cool and high fives, I move a bit to dance and explore and the 2 gesturing at me with big smiles and his gal then runs over to me and starts to dance with me. After a few minutes, at the end of that song, I turn around and glance to my left and there is Honey from last night. And quickly get behind her near the bar hoping she has not seen me yet.
So, last night, at my place, she was getting on to me, saying she has seen me there on many nights, why I wear hip hop clothes, why I like hip hop and rap etc. Then she asks why I did never talk to her before and wait only until 6 am? Haha. I tell her I love to move around, dance and be free. She then castigates me and throws me in with the other men she's met who all pull this routine and why now she only arrives after 3 ! She also seems very pissed at guys who recently have cornered got her drinks and have her at their table and then go dance with another girl, in front of her! And also, about being taken to Go Go places by guys and having to be there watching the Go Go girls which she says make want to throw up and she said she then just focuses on the other hot guys there and ones coming in. In her words, hey if the men can do it, I can too. Pretty emphatically. Anyways, lots of other stuff, and then her German boyfriend and she knows she's hot etc etc. So, I'm like, been there, done that. Need be a ' butterfly'.
So, getting ready to go to the other side of the bar and I get a Hi from ONG and I explain Ive got to go from that spot. Because there's the girl from last night and point her out to ONG. He says ok and I move and a couple of minutes later I see ONG talking to her, LOL. Anyways, I'm cool with that. About 10 minutes later, I see Honey moved on a bit. But like about another 10 minutes later I see ONG talking to her and dancing a bit. I'm like OK I can now go find a girl and quickly get out of there.
Well, I go to get a drink and waiting there like for 5 minutes, turn around and there is Honey walking out and looks at me and mouths ' What ' ? I dunno what she means and just kind shrug my shoulders in response as she is about 5-6 feet away. She exits and goes down the stairs. Now. I think I can hang around and it's like almost 545 am and I go get a drink and ONG is back and says he spoke with Honey, and told her he learned of her from his friend (my real name) via Facebook (ahh. No but anyway) and apparently when asked Honey said she did not go for the night with any such guy (my name) or sleep with him. Great, now I'm thinking to myself why get me involved and ask ONG what exactly did he expect her to say " yeah I did to some guy she just met and say yeah for 2500 LT. I mean c'mon Seriously?
Anyways, I was not upset and ONG and I chatted a bit and I said Ive got to get a drink and I'm going to line up a girl in the next 15 minutes. As luck would have it I met a decent looking girl, who I had not seen at Insomnia before and bought her a drink. She then took me to a table (the small, tall ones), she was from Udon Thani (only been her for a month and worked at one of non Soi bars (meaning not 3,6, ,7 - 13 etc) and spoke very, very. Very little English. And, she had a colorful skirt and top from her bar where she works from 12-8 pm. Agreed on 2000 for LT and left within 15 minutes. Will provide details in a separate post as she is still with me as of 4 pm.
Thank you for the advise. I be taking the "first class express bus" (what I found it "call" on internet).
I booked LK Renaissance Hotel at pattaya. If the bus stop at the north, any suggestion what should I take to get to the hotel.
Travelling to thailand first time.
Thank you.I don't know this 'first class express bus' but if you take a bus from Ekkamai then it will go the northern bus station in Pattaya.
From there you can take a baht bus. You can't miss them, it's not a big station and they are standing near the exit. Just google 'baht bus' if you don't know what they look like.
Tell the driver you want to go to the LK Renaissance and most likely he will drop you off at Second Road and you will have to walk the last (short) part to the hotel. It will cost you 50 Baht.
If you are arriving at the BKK airport take a door-to-door service to the hotel. Same if are travelling from an hotel in the city. https://ticket.belltravelservice.com/customer/Webhome.Don't take the Bell bus from a hotel in Bangkok! They pick up all customers with a mini van first, driving around half of Bangkok so it will take forever!
Don't take the Bell bus from a hotel in Bangkok! They pick up all customers with a mini van first, driving around half of Bangkok so it will take forever!Take the regular bus, station is called: eastern bus terminal / BTS station, bus to Pattaya 120 baht, all 30 minutes, from 5-23 o'clock.
Uncle Volodya
05-15-16, 10:27
So, I get to Insomnia at about 3 am, it's Saturday night, the place is packed and guys outnumber the girls by about 50 PC
I am happy to hear that you are having fun, man.
Yeah, Ibar / Insomnia is way too crowded on the weekends. I remember last Friday when me you and ONG went together was the same. Too many dudes. Too much pushing. I was really happy to get out of there with that pretty little 21 year old.
Maybe best to avoid if you are in town for a longer stay. Hit the gogos or Soi 6 instead. Or take a regular to dinner and stay in for the night.
That said, right now, I'd give my left nut to have been there last night. 555.
Old New Guy
05-15-16, 10:53
So, getting ready to go to the other side of the bar and I get a Hi from ONG and I explain I got to go. Because there's the girl from last night and point her out to ONG. He says ok and I move and a couple of minutes later I see ONG talking to her, LOL. Anyways, I, cool with that. About 10 minutes later, I see Honey moved on a bit. But like about another 10 minutes later I see ONG talking to her and dancing a bit. I'm like OK I can now go find a girl and quickly get out of there.
Well, I go to get a drink and waiting there like for 5 minutes, turn around and there is Honey walking out and looks at me and mouths ' What '. I dunno what she means and just kind shrug my shoulders in response as she is about 5-6 feet away. She exits and goes down the stairs. Now. I think I can hang around and it's like almost 545 am and I go get a drink and ONG is back and says he spoke with Honey, and told her he learned of her from his friend (my real name) via Facebook (ahh. No but anyway) and apparently when asked Honey she did not go for the night with any such guy (my name) or sleep with him. Great, now I'm thinking to myself why get me involved and ask ONG what exactly did he expect her to say " yeah I did to some guy she just met and say yeah for 2500 LT. I mean see'Mon. Seriously?
Yes, seriously. You still take this as if was not a big dancing brothel and put too much meanings into. Many girls are pathological liars and will peruse truth only when better suit them. So the complete story is that I got close to Honey, she was smiling and friendly, asked for my name etc. After a while I said you're pretty but your customer of yesterday (no Facebook mentioned) is there behind us. To be honest with you, if she had said "so what", or "no problem", I could have taken her for the night but I didn't like her act, and moved on. After not even one half round she grabbed my hand again, for the same routine to repeat, I could tell that being 6 am then she was pressing for a deal. I appreciated that even if pretty she's not my type really. She's has good and quick English but her accent is more like of someone with an African parent, not Thai at all. Anyway, that is the kind of BS that fills the night, happy that you didn't made a big deal of it and got what you wanted at the very end, thing that I couln't.
Here's another one, I was glancing a "better" dressed good-looking lady, early 30 maybe. She was evidently not interested in the modest looking bald guy in his 40's looking at her. A skinny boy like 19 yrs, short hair comes up, smiles and talks to her, she did put a little show for all of us hinting jokefully to a foursome, then smiles, grabs the hand of the boy and walks away. That's how it works there.
Old New Guy
05-15-16, 11:05
From there you can take a baht bus. You can't miss them, it's not a big station and they are standing near the exit. So one arrives for the first time in Pattaya, has to drag say two bags to the road and up the baht bus, get to understand which one goes near to his hotel and change one or two times, figure out what's the amount to give, put up with smelling or drunk strangers depending on the time, still dragging and watching bags, all that in the scorching hot. That is what is called "arriving in style" really.
I appreciated that even if pretty she's not my type really. She's has good and quick English but her accent is more like of someone with an African parent, not Thai at all 1. When she came into my room, one of the first things she asked me was if I had a mama and papa? My papa passed away when I was 6. So, that actually led to a long conversation about her parents and their holiday to Cambodia etc. And her telling me that she cannot imagine how people who lose one of their parents or don't have one can go on. She exact quote, if I lost my mama or papa, I think I would kill myself. And, then asked me how I survived it etc. So, we talked a lot about her family and I can assure you she is Thai, maybe with some Cambodian or Laos mixed in, since they are from a border town. I am fairly good read of character having hired and managed thousands of people in over 45 countries , over 20 plus years and have had to negotiate complicated corporate deals over long periods of time with Japanese, Germans , Koreans, British etc. and have been to Thailand ( not Pattaya ) for business with multiple Fortune 50 corporations more than 12 times, over a period of two decades. Not as much as you, but I have learned a lot about so many things and have some ability to read faces. And, Honey was a bit drunk and was in the mood to talk and talk and I doubt she does that very much. As you may know people often are more honest when they are drunk. Particularly women. Anyways, I will be gone in a less than a week, and it's not any of my business , but bringing me up was completely unnecessary, IMO. It's not kosher, as they say in NYC. And, I do have a pretty good BS detector in my brain! It's not very easy to pull stuff on me and I am known as a hard nosed negotiator who is not easy to read. I hate saying such stuff about myself, but I think in my situation I feel like I am being challenged with BS.
2. I don't think there is any (zero issue affecting how I see her) if she was half Aftican or black. That would be good thing if it were ( a la Tiger Woods ). Anyway, she isn't, but she has been with some black guys and she talked to me about those experiences too and ghosts etc. So, we talked and talked. Some of her accent may actually have been picked up from those experiences.
I think you've got her wrong. I think you are too hardened for your own mental health and well being.
Uncle Volodya
05-15-16, 11:55
So one arrives for the first time in Pattaya, has to drag say two bags to the road and up the baht bus, get to understand which one goes near to his hotel and change one or two times, figure out what's the amount to give, put up with smelling or drunk strangers depending on the time, still dragging and watching bags, all that in the scorching hot. That is what is called "arriving in style" really.All to save $20? When you are tired, jet lagged and need an immediate shower / beer / BJ / nap?
Yeah I don't get it.
I use Mr. Virach and he always gets me from the airport to the front door of my accommodations for 1000 baht.
Uncle Volodya
05-15-16, 11:57
2. I don't think there is any (zero issue affecting how I see her) if she was half Aftican or black. That would be good thing if it were ( a la Tiger Woods ). Anyway, she isn't but she has been with some black guys and she talked to me about those experiences too and ghosts etc. So, we talked and talked. Some of her accent may actually have been picked up from those experiences.
I didn't know you had the hots for Tiger Woods. 555. ;)
Unfortunately I think he likes big boob Swedish blondes. So you are really not his type. I guess you will have to settle for what is on offer at Ibar for now.
But seriously, I remember that years ago there was one half black Thai girl around and she was absolutely stunning. She even did some porn if memory serves. I saw her once or twice on WS but never had a chance to go with her. I wonder what ever happened to her?
I didn't know you had the hots for Tiger Woods. 555. ;)
Unfortunately I think he likes big boob Swedish blondes. So you are really not his type. I guess you will have to settle for what is on offer at Ibar for now.
But seriously, I remember that years ago there was one half black Thai girl around and she was absolutely stunning. She even did some porn if memory serves. I saw her once or twice on WS but never had a chance to go with her. I wonder what ever happened to her?Huh. I didn't quite get your me and Tiger Woods stuff. Anyways, it's irrelevant and no explanation needed. One of the greatest persons I have admired in my life is actually Michael Jordan. And I am also a big Obama fan (but no need to go there and I am neither a Dem or a Rep.).
BTW, I have seen at least 2-3 such (who I believe are) half black, half Thai chicks at Insomnia. As I write, I can even picture the faces of 2 quite clearly. One is super slim and kinda tall and has a small face and small jaw and 20-23. The other is a bit well built and about 26-28. I've gotten good vibes from both, so if interested you may want to try them out.
So one arrives for the first time in Pattaya, has to drag say two bags to the road and up the baht bus, get to understand which one goes near to his hotel and change one or two times, figure out what's the amount to give, put up with smelling or drunk strangers depending on the time, still dragging and watching bags, all that in the scorching hot. That is what is called "arriving in style" really.There's a first time for everything and it's really not that difficult, LOL! And you have to get to know the lay of the land one time or the other, don't you?
The baht busses that are parked at the bus station are all heading in the same direction (Beach Road and Second Road) and beside that the drivers will always ask you where you want to go.
And you don't have to figure out what amount to give because there are fixed prices: 30 Baht if you get off anywhere at Beach Road and 50 Baht if you get off anywhere at Second Road.
Most people are going to that area so for most people it's quite easy, but I agree it gets a little bit more complicated if your hotel is in Jomtien or somewhere near Third Road for example.
Maybe some drivers are willing to take you there (for the right price of course) and if they don't want to do that then they will drop you off at the right place to catch another baht bus.
Most of them are quite helpful in my experience, in their own 'macho Thai way' anyway.
And as for the scorching heat: I'm fit and in good health so it doesn't bother me that much most of the time.
All to save $20? When you are tired, jet lagged and need an immediate shower / beer / BJ / nap?
Yeah I don't get it.
I use Mr. Virach and he always gets me from the airport to the front door of my accommodations for 1000 baht.We were talking about the trip from Ekkamai to Pattaya. That's usually not the route one takes from the airport to Pattaya.
I don't get it that people want to go straight to Pattaya immediately after arrival, tired and jet lagged.
For the first one or two nights I always book a hotel in Bangkok. Much quicker and easier to reach, either by taxi or by train and BTS.
So when I go to Pattaya I'm usually not tired and jet lagged anymore.
Old New Guy
05-15-16, 12:54
So when I go to Pattaya I'm usually not tired and jet lagged anymore.Which doesn't change the fact that as much one spares himself motorbike and baht buses rides, the better. I understand their usefulness, it's just that they are not my thing, and never will be.
Uncle Volodya
05-15-16, 13:10
We were talking about the trip from Ekkamai to Pattaya. That's usually not the route one takes from the airport to Pattaya.
I don't get it that people want to go straight to Pattaya immediately after arrival, tired and jet lagged.
For the first one or two nights I always book a hotel in Bangkok. Much quicker and easier to reach, either by taxi or by train and BTS.
So when I go to Pattaya I'm usually not tired and jet lagged anymore.I understand your logic. But I am coming from Russia. So only a 9 hour flight for me.
Old New Guy
05-15-16, 13:21
I understand your logic. But I am coming from Russia. So only a 9 hour flight for me.1 or 11 hours what's the difference? Who wants to smell Thai driver's sweat or diesel fumes plus fills hears with unnecessary noise when stuck in traffic?
Door-to-door service or private car with AC is the answer for normal Westerners. Of course if one comes from a culture of constant haggling, little personal hygiene and continuous honking, riding motorbikes and baht buses in Thailand must be no big deal, or even appealing.
This was my first direct-to-Pattaya trip. It was 24 hours airport-to-airport so I certainly was jet-lagged, but flopping into a nice sedan and checking into my room by midnight sure seems like it was a best-case scenario. I can be jet-lagged in BKK and have to check out and into hotels in a day or two, or I can be jet-lagged in Pattaya and and just lie around. Not that that was going to happen, though.
Uncle Volodya
05-15-16, 13:47
1 or 11 hours what's the difference? Who wants to smell Thai driver's sweat or diesel fumes plus fills hears with unnecessary noise when stuck in traffic?
Not for me!
My first trip to Thailand I took the slow bus to Pattyaa from Ekkamai. I think it took 4-5 hours. No AC. And the bus stopped at every little town to pick up people. Plus I was staying in Jomtien and had no idea how to get there from where they dropped me off.
I was so wiped out by the time I got to Patts I just flopped in the bed and slept 11 hours. And this was after 3 days in BKK, so it wasn't jet lag.
Never again!
Old New Guy
05-15-16, 14:01
My first trip to Thailand I took the slow bus to Pattyaa from Ekkamai. I think it took 4-5 hours. No AC. And the bus stopped at every little town to pick up people. Plus I was staying in Jomtien and had no idea how to get there from where they dropped me off.Oh yeah. The same identical fuck-up that I did when I was thinking it was cool to play Mr. Old Backpacker of the Cheap Asses.
Or when I though I was being "an alternative sex traveler" taking the bus from Phuket Airport to Town, just to find a desolated short row of Coyote Clubs and rental shops that wouldn't let me touch a bike without sequestering my passport.
They say, cheap with the penny, fool with the pound, I'm afraid that applies to a lot of foreigners in Thailand that for whatever reason feel the need to denigrate themselves.
Uncle Volodya
05-15-16, 16:27
Oh yeah. The same identical fuck-up that I did when I was thinking it was cool to play Mr. Old Backpacker of the Cheap Asses.
Though I'd never do it again, I am kind of glad I did. It was cool to see the way regular people live and I had fun chatting with the school kids that use the bus to go form school to their neighboring villages.
But with the heat it was absolutely exhausting. Now that I'v e been through the experience I would not repeat it ever again.
1 or 11 hours what's the difference? Who wants to smell Thai driver's sweat or diesel fumes plus fills hears with unnecessary noise when stuck in traffic?
Door-to-door service or private car with AC is the answer for normal Westerners. Of course if one comes from a culture of constant haggling, little personal hygiene and continuous honking, riding motorbikes and baht buses in Thailand must be no big deal, or even appealing.
They say, cheap with the penny, fool with the pound, I'm afraid that applies to a lot of foreigners in Thailand that for whatever reason feel the need to denigrate themselves.Geez mate, the only one denigrating himself is you. Looking down on people from your ivory tower.
Not for me!
My first trip to Thailand I took the slow bus to Pattyaa from Ekkamai. I think it took 4-5 hours. No AC. And the bus stopped at every little town to pick up people. Plus I was staying in Jomtien and had no idea how to get there from where they dropped me off.
I was so wiped out by the time I got to Patts I just flopped in the bed and slept 11 hours. And this was after 3 days in BKK, so it wasn't jet lag.
Never again!Nowadays there's an airconditioned and reasonably comfortable bus that doesn't stop everywhere and goes straight to Pattaya.
From Ekkamai it usually takes 2 to 3 hours depending on traffic and from the airport 1,5 to 2 hours.
Old New Guy
05-15-16, 16:54
Geez mate, the only one denigrating himself is you. Looking down on people from your ivory tower.You must have got pissed because of something that I wrote before, but couldn't find anything better to attack me with than an empty, meaningless statement. Try harder a next time.
Still pretty beat from the trip over, yesterday I didn't venture from the condo complex until it was time to go to Walking Street. Not much to report. Tried Skyfall. A handful of doables if I were into the BF thing. Overall maybe above average largely because of the relative paucity of below average girls.
Moved on to Wildcats. Really no one there that caught my attention, though I do think there are fewer tats per square foot of dancer than in most bars nowadays. One plus was that instead of the ubiquitous sporting events on the bar TV's there was some German porn cartoon running. It had a vintage look to it and that is reinforced by the obvious lack of child labor laws in its era: The thing was clearly drawn by elementary school children, and not the artistically gifted. Also, they had obviously been molested by men with French bread sized equipment. The plot was hard to follow as it seemed to have a lot of twists and turns, plus who really wants to be caught watching child-drawn porn when the real thing was there to be watched? So the viewing was sporadic but one can only admire the directing ability to somehow segue from a scene involving a guy derailing a train by intentionally putting his dick on the track (in truth, trains derailed a lot back then, and the train in question looked like something an eight year old would draw) to a scene with a woman having her womanly orifice cleaned by a chimney sweep.
But back to reality, where some blessing rite involving two dancers clanging the crap out of the bells for about two minutes as a naked dancer orbited the room blessing people and objects with a drink she was carrying, or perhaps her [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) sample. It was deafening and convinced me to leave even though I'll never know if the woman in the cartoon ever got everything, including household items, vacuumed from her apparently very commodious womanly parts.
A few bars later I was back at Heaven Above to see if the Laughing Lesbians were back at it. No, though I did see one on stage. Unfortunately she soon left with another customer and the day before's Miss Halitosis spotted me so I fled.
Today I got a demonstration of carpe diem: I had opted to skip Kinnaree Place yesterday as the Saturday BBQ scene didn't appeal to me. That was a mistake. As I was getting ready for the trek over there today the heavens opened up and my plans were washed away in the downpour. I'll have to put it as a higher priority on my trip this fall. Too bad, it really sounds good.
Instead, when things had dried a bit I headed for Bliss Lounge, deciding that I would risk the Barbie / Ken helmet ripping my scalp open. Oh! What we won't do for a blow job! It turned out I needn't have fretted: Neither coming nor going was I offered a helmet. The Bliss entrance has been renovated since my last visit. Now they are setting up an area with moderate A / see for the girls to sit in instead of out in the heat and noise of 3rd Road. I sweat enough for both of us: I don't need a sweaty sucker as well. I got a not unfortunate looking lass as first in queue and she did an awesome job. Great work ethic, lots of tongue, no bitching about the geologic era changing before the geyser spewed forth, nor about the inappropriate places the geyser ended up.
This evening I took the Baht Bus to Walking Street, making two trips in a row that actually went where I expected them to and raising my batting average in that department to. 500. I know it's not rocket science but I have a troubled history with those damned things. Still prefer the motos.
Uncle Volodya
05-15-16, 18:40
Nowadays there's an airconditioned and reasonably comfortable bus that doesn't stop everywhere and goes straight to Pattaya.
From Ekkamai it usually takes 2 to 3 hours depending on traffic and from the airport 1,5 to 2 hours.Well the indeed sounds better. But still too much of a pain in the ass for me. I am usually coming off an all night flight with a considerable amount of luggage and such.
Under these circumstances an extra $20 does not seem all that much to pay.
But to each his own. The main thing is that we get to the Mongering Mecca. The conveyance we use does not matter all that much).
Banana Boi
05-15-16, 18:54
Under these circumstances an extra $20 does not seem all that much to pay.I have to side with this. When I'm coming off a 20 hour flight I want to arrive at my hotel ASAP to get some rest. Paying $20 more for door to door taxi is the last thing on my mind.
I had opted to skip Kinnaree Place yesterday as the Saturday BBQ scene didn't appeal to me. That was a mistake. As I was getting ready for the trek over there today the heavens opened up and my plans were washed away in the downpour. I'll have to put it as a higher priority on my trip this fall. Too bad, it really sounds good.
Too bad.
Anyone have updates on the other G-clubs around? Not even sure which ones are still open. M, Venus, Winchester, Rioja, Passion (may have got shut down), Jade House, Viper (rumors it has been shut down), 007, Club 4, and a bunch on the Dark Side. I know guys post about Telephone Bar and La Poste but we don't hear much about the rest of them. I'll eventually get around to all of them but a heads up on some to be avoided would be appreciated.
Christian G
05-15-16, 20:59
Anyone have updates on the other G-clubs around? Not even sure which ones are still open. M, Venus, Winchester, Rioja, Passion (may have got shut down), Jade House, Viper (rumors it has been shut down), 007, Club 4, and a bunch on the Dark Side.Aside from the Viper (I don't know if they re-open yet and is more a coyote bar for me than G-clubs) they are all hit and miss, more miss. Difficult to find in the clubs you've mentioned the same Kinnaree's good looking girls.
HookersHunter
05-15-16, 21:52
To all the Mongers, I have few question if you could answer please?
Pattaya videos from YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/results?q=pattaya.
1) What is best time to be visiting Pattaya, when there is not much tourist around or does it matter when you travel?
2) Around here (pattaya walking street) where is cheapest place to stay to rent a room with your own bathroom and shower?
3) Is Pattaya walking street is the only place to hook with SW?
4) I see quite a few Russian SW is it a common sight in there, are there any other SW from other countries works there?
5) What is the low to high price in US Dollar you will pay for any sex act from a female SW ?
6) I like American, Japanese, Chinese & Indian food. Is there any place to get these food in there at a cheaper price?
P.S: if anybody want to add some suggestion that will be useful please do so.
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