Pattaya Reports

[Wolvenvacht]

It is thanks to the spenders that lots of bars do exist and are around.

For the benefits of the non-spenders too as they can have them available.

I can't see a bar making a living based on 5-10 customers buying 3-4 drinks a night.A big thanks to these big spenders to keep the bar and gogo club system alive and well!

I will stay on my "one drink for me and one ladydrink for her" regime before I take her to my room and have fun with her while the bar-sponsors are racking up their bills.

[LittleBigMan]

He had a perception based on.

1/ japanese and koreans, by "culture", tend to spend a lot in The evening Entertainment, especially on drinks.

They do this a lot At home. They Can easily do this on vacation in LOS where drinks are cheaper and they are there to have fun.

2/ Japanese and Korean tend to go out in groups, easily 3-5, one pays or all goes under one tab, hence a large bill.

Split that bill in 3-5 and it gets down to a more "reasonable" spending capacity of each individual.

There have been nights when I spent 2/2500 baht in two people in a bar, and I am not a drinker.

What's wrong in spending money if you have it and want to spend it?

It is thanks to the spenders that lots of bars do exist and are around.

For the benefits of the non-spenders too as they can have them available.

I can't see a bar making a living based on 5-10 customers buying 3-4 drinks a night.Just curious as to how one come to that conclusion?

Those are all reason you yourself gave, But I was asking the original poster, I'm looking at the bill and do not see where it would indicate that this bill belongs to a Asian group. I've seen Non-Asians throwing ping pongs, I've seen Non-Asians buy drinks in groups and split bills, I've seen Non-Asians pay Bar-Fine and service upfront, I've seen Non-Asian pay under and above the market. Where on the bill indicates this is a Asian group? And finally where in my question suggest I might be against a person " spending money if they have it? " .

[Member #4591]

Not all guys let these woman hustlers walk all over them. Yes a woman can ask whatever she wants and obviously she will try to get as much as she can from you. She sizes you up from the way you dress, your jewelry, and the way you act. Guys, also have the right to pay as much or as little as they want. Some guys are doormats and these woman who are pro's will eat you alive. I can almost guarantee many of these guys that just give the girl what ever she wants are the same guys that after they leave continue to send money to these girls actually thinking the girl is his girlfriend. Many guys have no negotiation skills with woman or even know how to talk to woman. So they can't understand the fact that they are paying two to three times more when everyone else is paying less.

Many guys go to Thailand themselves. They never see the girl interacting with other customers. If they did they would no be on her bragging about paying an extra 500 Baht. They would realize wow I am being treated differently than other customers. This girl is taken advantage of me and just walk away right there if she does not charge me what everyone else pays. But, because this is mostly done on a one on one discussion. Guys don't see what's going on even if other guys are telling him.

If we are talking about Pattaya with the exception of go go girls. The cost is 500-1000 baht. 1000 is the maximum. If she is charging you more it is because she either does not respect you, things you are a sucker or is repulsed by you and is demanding more money to bribe her to spend time with you. In any case be a man and stand up for yourself and walk away.

P.S, this post is on the topic of price and is not directed to Bkkdog. It is to everyone on price in general.Then no need to quote me then. Sarcasm is priceless isn't it?

[Banana Boi]

If we are talking about Pattaya with the exception of go go girls. The cost is 500-1000 baht. 1000 is the maximum. ANY girl in ANY bar is under 1000 baht ST? I haven't really hit on any bar girls but if this is truly the case I have seen the odd one here and there I will consider for 1000. I just never bother since imo they aren't as pretty as top gogo girls but for 1000 worth considering.

Never asked but I am assuming girls from soapies are going to be more than 1000 as well.

[Wolvenvacht]

If we are talking about Pattaya with the exception of go go girls. The cost is 500-1000 baht. 1000 is the maximum. If she is charging you more it is because she either does not respect you, things you are a sucker or is repulsed by you and is demanding more money to bribe her to spend time with you. In any case be a man and stand up for yourself and walk away.Did you just return with your timemachine from the past?

1000 baht + 300 baht barfine is the standard tariff for ST in any bar of Soi 6.

Only Beach Road girls may come cheaper.

[Cool]

ANY girl in ANY bar is under 1000 baht ST? I haven't really hit on any bar girls but if this is truly the case I have seen the odd one here and there I will consider for 1000. I just never bother since imo they aren't as pretty as top gogo girls but for 1000 worth considering.

Never asked but I am assuming girls from soapies are going to be more than 1000 as well.Soapie girls start at 2 k. Bkk soapie girls cuter than Patts counterparts. Sideline / model can be 7 k+. Bad value because FL perform better if you pick right girl. Soapie is scripted and for tourists to cross off bucket list or burn cash. Bright side room included and drinks unnecessary. Some soapie girls have begun to suggest how much to tip. Tour buses cause prices to inflate.

[Banana Boi]

I don't normally post about all my gogo clubs adventures since guys on here said it's same crap over and over again. I am posting this since I believe G-Spot is a new club on WS. It is the same chain as Electric Blue and Dollhouse. For those coming to WS save your time and skip G-spot. Not quite as bad as Dollhouse. Electric Blue OTOH is pretty good with a couple nice girls. Also a fairly dirty club.

Also wanted to put a warning on #14 at Glass House. Save your money on LD for this one. She looks really good but poor attitude. I did get a few brief intervals of DFK and minimal lap dancing but not enough for me to keep her more than 1 drink or to BF. Too bad.

[Banana Boi]

During the day I mainly hit Soi 6, Kinnaree, and look for cute girls in MP's. Are their other options I am missing during the day to find cute girls?Since no one responded I decided to try Soi Full Love inn and Soi Xzyte this afternoon. While walking along soi 25 on the way to Soi Full Love Inn checked out the massage places. There were actually a handful of ok looking young girls buried in with the ladyboys and old ladies. I thought I would return but didn't make it.

Excite Club on Soi Xzyte. This is my 2nd visit to this club and I'll skip it unless I see some nice girls outside. Mamasan is very nice to me. I was the only customer and there were about 8 girls. Even at 1000 baht I couldn't find anyone to go with. Good thing is it's only steps away from LK Metro so you can always walk by.

Pirate Club on Soi Full Love Inn. Last time on Soi Full Love Inn I sessioned in Club 007. This time I purposely went to Pirate first. Maybe about 6 guys and 12 girls. There were 3 girls I considered ok but the one I wanted was talking with a black guy who I swear was at Club 007 the other week too. The girls called him Ducky or something like that. I was relieved he left and my girl became available. She is easily the most fun one there. She introduced herself with a tongue down my throat. That usually works for me for girls I find attractive. Found myself in a room soon after. After showering together we got on the bed with intense DFK. Started decent BBBJ then RJ. Then in every position we fucked in we DFK'd. I guess this girl likes to DFK too. Great time and a definite repeat. Unfortunately I totally forgot her name. Sorry. No rush at all and session ended when I said to go back downstairs. Standard pricing. 1000 FS + 700 bar tab for room and 3 drinks.

I highly recommend Pirate Club and Club 007 since I had a great time there a couple of weeks ago too.

[Christian G]

This time I purposely went to Pirate first. Maybe about 6 guys and 12 girls. WOW 12 girls, they found some staff. I been there only once 7 months ago, and left after 2 minutes because there were only 3 girls LOL.

[Bunnies]

LOS FR. Day 1 28 Jun.

We had prepared a bit for this trip and lined up quite a few girls ahead. Curious to know the best online sites to arrange FL's in advance? Have tried a few like ThaiFriendly and ThaiLoveWeb, but it seems they're mainly frequented by girls looking for LTR. Where is the best place to find like-minded FL's?

Thanks.

[Member #4591]

Curious to know the best online sites to arrange FL's in advance? Have tried a few like ThaiFriendly and ThaiLoveWeb, but it seems they're mainly frequented by girls looking for LTR. Where is the best place to find like-minded FL's?

Thanks.You need kind of a sixth sense. The clues are quite obvious actually. Revealing photos, a lot of pictures in the bar, the words take care me in their profile or call girl / escort, it's generally pretty easy to discover after a few minutes of chat. The working girls will agree to meet you very easily, where non P4 P girls will want hours or days of chit chat before. I'm surprised you don't know where to find them on line. WeChat has to be the easiest online source to find working girls, Badoo comes in a close second. After that Tango, Skout and Thai Joop.

[Kumbu]

You need kind of a sixth sense. The clues are quite obvious actually. Revealing photos, a lot of pictures in the bar, the words take care me in their profile or call girl / escort, it's generally pretty easy to discover after a few minutes of chat. The working girls will agree to meet you very easily, where non P4 P girls will want hours or days of chit chat before. I'm surprised you don't know where to find them on line. WeChat has to be the easiest online source to find working girls, Badoo comes in a close second. After that Tango, Skout and Thai Joop.Hah! You killed two birds with one stone there. Very efficient. And both posts were super informative.

[Banana Boi]

Sensations - 1500 before midnight, 1000 after midnight. It's laughable at midnight about 30-40 girls being barfined at once.

Ninja - 1500 barfine. No sure if cheaper after midnight.

Glass house - 2000 before 1 am for models which is over half the girls. 1500 for normal girls before 1 am. 1000 after 1 am.

Unfortunate for me I wanted to take 2 models from Glass House tonight but out of principle no chance I'm paying 4000 BF and I didn't want to wait until after 1 am. Visited soi 6 instead for 1300 baht total.

[Jayylf]

Went to a massage place called three sisters. It didn't look like a place where you can get a happy end and I thought it was a normal spa. I think it is run by three sisters and I might have got the youngest one. She was really cute and did a good massage but at the end, she wanted to give me happy ending but I refused because tables were just separated by curtains. Otherwise would have been fun!

[Goatscrot]

Sensations - 1500 before midnight, 1000 after midnight. It's laughable at midnight about 30-40 girls being barfined at once.

Ninja - 1500 barfine. No sure if cheaper after midnight.

Glass house - 2000 before 1 am for models which is over half the girls. 1500 for normal girls before 1 am. 1000 after 1 am.

Unfortunate for me I wanted to take 2 models from Glass House tonight but out of principle no chance I'm paying 4000 BF and I didn't want to wait until after 1 am. Visited soi 6 instead for 1300 baht total.Sorry, but those BFs are just obscene, especially considering what the gals will want for ST. Over 100 USD for a short short time. No thanks. I miss the days in Pattaya where every GoGo BF was 500 and ST was 1 k and LT was 1. 5 k. That was what it was worth and truth be told that is still what it's worth.

[Banana Boi]

Agree they are obscene. Have noticed clubs also moving to a 2 pricing tier for ladydrinks as well. At Glass House it's 140 for LD's but 180 for a model. Sexy Airline is 200 for model LD. I will pay more attention to this since it wasn't until the other day I noticed model drink prices. Of course every girl I like is in the model category. For me this is a more disturbing trend than the staggered BF trend.

Not sure I agree gogo girl ST should be 1000. that's what the rate for 30-60 minutes at soi 6 would be, not to mention with a girl of MUCH LOWER quality. My average gogo girl ST lasts about 5-6 hours (not all sex time). That has to have more value than 1000.

[Goatscrot]

Agree they are obscene. Have noticed clubs also moving to a 2 pricing tier for ladydrinks as well. At Glass House it's 140 for LD's but 180 for a model. Sexy Airline is 200 for model LD. I will pay more attention to this since it wasn't until the other day I noticed model drink prices. Of course every girl I like is in the model category. For me this is a more disturbing trend than the staggered BF trend.

Not sure I agree gogo girl ST should be 1000. that's what the rate for 30-60 minutes at soi 6 would be, not to mention with a girl of MUCH LOWER quality. My average gogo girl ST lasts about 5-6 hours (not all sex time). That has to have more value than 1000.All the bad aspects of the scene in the West are creeping East. Soi 6 used to be 500 Baht. And that was not so long ago.

[Mr Enternational]

This is a prime example of what I have always preached. I met this chick some time ago, but never fucked her. She started out wanting 2000-3000 but easily went down to 1000 for all night. Easy as pie. None of that breaking the mood shit that people say. Hell, my mood gets even better when I can strike a deal like that.

[LukeSkywalker]

1000 Baht or about $30 for all night is an exceptional deal.

Is she good-looking? Can you post her pics?


This is a prime example of what I have always preached. I met this chick some time ago, but never fucked her. She started out wanting 2000-3000 but easily went down to 1000 for all night. Easy as pie. None of that breaking the mood shit that people say. Hell, my mood gets even better when I can strike a deal like that.

[Member #4698]

This is a prime example of what I have always preached. I met this chick some time ago, but never fucked her. She started out wanting 2000-3000 but easily went down to 1000 for all night. Easy as pie. None of that breaking the mood shit that people say. Hell, my mood gets even better when I can strike a deal like that.The price you pay is of very little relevance without knowing the quality of the girl (face and body), the time of pickup, where she works, how many kids, ect, and various intangibles like how she relates to you and how you relate to her. Any consumer can go to Tire Kingdom and buy before promotions a Michelin LX for $199 or a Sumitomo for $125 for his SUV. One choice does not fit the needs of all consumers and cheaper is not always better. Plus you can shop around and find Costco or some other place has a cheaper price for either tire.

My point is the price debate will never end! What ISG'rs need to know is all the current price points so they can choose wisely for themselves. At 9 pm you are not going to get a Sensations girl out of the bar for less than 1500 bt + 2000 bt. You know that and I know that. Now there is nothing wrong with having a Go Go girl or any girl stop by your place at 3 am for a little rendezvous. Her late home delivery price would obviously be a lot lower and many girls would be inclined to spend the rest of the night. Or you can always shop around for another type of girl working somewhere else. There are lot of choices in Pattaya. But guys that want top quality Go Go girls at prime time are not fools. They know what they want, when they want it, and are prepared to pay for it. Last time I checked, there was nothing wrong with that.

Now I am in no way implying that you, MrE are banging lower quality girls. I have no idea about the kind of girls you like. But living in Pattaya as you do, provides you with certain home town advantages other board members do not enjoy. I envy you! If I lived in BKK, I know I would have my favorite Go Go girls, massage girls and what have you girls LINING me all the time, asking if they could come over and see me after work and I would only, on very rare occasions, have to pay barfines or retail prices. I can't wait!

[Mr Enternational]

The price you pay is of very little relevance without knowing the quality of the girl (face and body), the time of pickup, where she works, how many kids, ect, and various intangibles like how she relates to you and how you relate to her. Any consumer can go to Tire Kingdom and buy before discounts & Promotions a Michelin LX for $199 or a Sumitomo for $125 for his SUV. One choice does not fit the needs of all consumers and cheaper is not always better.You are making my point for me. As well, any consumer can walk into a used Hyundai dealership or a new Mercedes dealership and negotiate for x% off the price that is on the sticker. I am not saying to pay any chick a particular price, but at least try to talk the price down that you are given. Or better yet, you can make the first offer. You see in my example when I told her 2000 was too much and the girl said well I asked her how much she wanted.

[Breadman]

Negotiating my ass, that's waiting her out until she was desperate to take your lowball offer. Negotiating is when you leave with the girl on the spot after getting her to agree to your price. 99% of the guys on this board don't have the luxury of living in sin city and being able to wait out the girls until they cave. You have home field advantage, the rest of us are the visiting team, how about you lay off a bit on pressing the price point comments. I do agree with you, it can be done but the rest of us don't have the luxury of waiting them out. I did pick up a cutie for an all night romp for 1500 last trip, mind you I just gave her the money and didn't let her tell me what she wanted.


This is a prime example of what I have always preached. I met this chick some time ago, but never fucked her. She started out wanting 2000-3000 but easily went down to 1000 for all night. Easy as pie. None of that breaking the mood shit that people say. Hell, my mood gets even better when I can strike a deal like that.

[Mr Enternational]

Negotiating my ass, that's waiting her out until she was desperate to take your lowball offer. Negotiating is when you leave with the girl on the spot after getting her to agree to your price. How is it waiting someone out? I have never talked to this chick about fucking before. She said Hello, to me on the app and I immediately asked if she wanted to make some money. I follow the exact same technique when I am live in front of a new chick; so it has nothing to do with waiting. And I thought the reason all women went to Pattaya was because they are desperate for money!

[Sunlover2]

Negotiating my ass, that's waiting her out until she was desperate to take your lowball offer.What you call "waiting her out" I would call buy side discipline. Play johnny jumpup for the ladies and you have lost the mental edge. If not her (at that very moment) there are 100's of other fish in the sea.

SL.

[Uncle Volodya]

My point is the price debate will never end! What ISG'rs need to know is all the current price points so they can choose wisely for themselves. Yes, yes, yes!

These debates are useless without some empirical evidence about the girl's level of attractiveness and context of the pickup (venue, time, etc). A lot of bargain basement reports about price never seem to have a pic of the girl included.

And even then its very subjective. One man's trash is another's treasure.

[Uncle Volodya]

You are making my point for me. As well, any consumer can walk into a used Hyundai dealership or a new Mercedes dealership and negotiate for x% off the price that is on the sticker. I am not saying to pay any chick a particular price, but at least try to talk the price down that you are given. Or better yet, you can make the first offer. You see in my example when I told her 2000 was too much and the girl said well I asked her how much she wanted.I wonder if we can use game theory here? 555.

http://bigthink.com/videos/how-to-buy-a-car-using-game-theory-2

I know I need to be more disciplined about price. I spend too much. It's hard when you are in town for a short trip, time is tight, and opportunity costs are high.

I'd rather spend more than miss an opportunity to have the girl I want. But I need to negotiate better.

[Lefeu]

Negotiating my ass, that's waiting her out until she was desperate to take your lowball offer. Negotiating is when you leave with the girl on the spot after getting her to agree to your price. 99% of the guys on this board don't have the luxury of living in sin city and being able to wait out the girls until they cave. You have home field advantage, the rest of us are the visiting team...Well said and a good analogy. We are the visiting team, and I for one would hate to miss a beauty because of a small amount of money. Also, given how much I pay for the goods at home, it is always a bargain over there. Hence, for me negotiating is a waste of my precious time. If I am quoted too high a price, I just move on to the next one.

[BushWhack]

Monday early evening I found Mew on Beach Road very near Mike's Shopping Center, wears a baseball cap, looks very athletic, not young. THB 500 for two hours. A bit mechanical but satisfied my need at the moment. I put her through a lot, multiple positions and some good pounding and she was a trooper through it all. Had to stop twice to apply lube, not sure she was really into it enough to get wet.

Then walked from Hilton to Walking Street a few times between 7 and 10 pm, seemed a bunch of girls show up around 8 pm. The selection was impressive, all sizes and ages. Seems the closer you get to Walking Street most of the girls are wearing several extra pounds. Not my style, but if that's your thing lots from which to choose. The area near the Hilton had dozens of choices and five or six I would rate quite highly, young and beautiful.

Tuesday drinking beer at Hooters around 7 pm, saw an "older" lady standing behind the few palm trees on Beach Road sidewalk, projecting a shy persona. After a few beers I walked over to meet Nauch (or Knock or some such), indeed not one of the young girls. I took her for short time THB 500 with an option for long time if we really enjoy each other. We did! She was extremely responsive, she was into it and helped me gain maximum enjoyment. So short time turned into long time, THB 1,000 + and extra 100 just because in addition to the great sex we had a lot of laughs, very witty lady. We finished round one, slept five hours or so, went to round two, slower, longer and even more enjoyable. Seems this is what attracts me to the 40 year-old on occasion.

Big Beach Road marathon this coming Sunday, Beach Road will be closed part of Saturday as well, so I've prearranged Nauch to cover this period, shopping the Coconut Bar may not be easy during this weekend.

[Banana Boi]

I found Beach Road pretty weak when I first arrived but since it's been cooler the past 2-3 days I've hopped off baht buses at stretches where I see a few nice girls. The lineup has picked up dramatically. When all the bars close possibly July 15 and July 19 and 20, I'll be on Beach Road looking for some action as I'm thinking a lot of girls will flock there. Any truth to that from past years?

From the looks of it plenty of girls are heading out of town starting tomorrow. Pattaya will be a bit quieter. Won't stop the Chinese tour buses though!

[Hotman 666]

Monday early evening I found Mew on Beach Road very near Mike's Shopping Center, wears a baseball cap, looks very athletic, not young. THB 500 for two hours. A bit mechanical but satisfied my need at the moment. I put her through a lot, multiple positions and some good pounding and she was a trooper through it all. Had to stop twice to apply lube, not sure she was really into it enough to get wet.

Then walked from Hilton to Walking Street a few times between 7 and 10 pm, seemed a bunch of girls show up around 8 pm. The selection was impressive, all sizes and ages. Seems the closer you get to Walking Street most of the girls are wearing several extra pounds. Not my style, but if that's your thing lots from which to choose. The area near the Hilton had dozens of choices and five or six I would rate quite highly, young and beautiful.

Tuesday drinking beer at Hooters around 7 pm, saw an "older" lady standing behind the few palm trees on Beach Road sidewalk, projecting a shy persona. After a few beers I walked over to meet Nauch (or Knock or some such), indeed not one of the young girls. I took her for short time THB 500 with an option for long time if we really enjoy each other. We did! She was extremely responsive, she was into it and helped me gain maximum enjoyment. So short time turned into long time, THB 1,000 + and extra 100 just because in addition to the great sex we had a lot of laughs, very witty lady. We finished round one, slept five hours or so, went to round two, slower, longer and even more enjoyable. Seems this is what attracts me to the 40 year-old on occasion.

Big Beach Road marathon this coming Sunday, Beach Road will be closed part of Saturday as well, so I've prearranged Nauch to cover this period, shopping the Coconut Bar may not be easy during this weekend.The Coconut Bar must be, IMHO, the BEST value for money in Pattaya. I was there two weeks ago and the selection was rather good.

I found the best area for a reasonable choice to be between Central Rd and Soi 13.

The price does not seem to have changed for many years now, still 500 Baht for short time and, in the afternoon many of the girls are happy to stay for two or three hours. No real model type stunners but a very good selection of "girl next door" type playmates.

Enjoy (I do).

Hotman.

[Wolvenvacht]

I wonder if we can use game theory here? 555.

http://bigthink.com/videos/how-to-buy-a-car-using-game-theory-2

I know I need to be more disciplined about price. I spend too much. It's hard when you are in town for a short trip, time is tight, and opportunity costs are high.

I'd rather spend more than miss an opportunity to have the girl I want. But I need to negotiate better.That's not really game theory: that's deciding on basis of full knowledge of all possibilities.

If there was a database containing a list of all available ladies with an objective and quantified description of their qualities and their price, then it would be trivially easy to search for the "best".

But such database does not exist and we cannot call or walk around and ask them all their price and then go back to the "best" as she may already be gone by then.

BUT there does exist a solution to this problem and I described it in http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1822554&viewfull=1#post1822554 and followed up in http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1822939&viewfull=1#post1822939.

It is an "mongerish" application of the age old "secretary problem" (http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Secretary_problem).

If you only look at the price (which you can do if the candidates are all more or less of the same quality, say Soi 6 girls or top-level agogo clubs or Beach Road hookers) then you ask the price of the first 3 or 4 girls you meet but don't pick any of them. As from then on you pick the first girl you meet that is cheaper than the cheapest of these first 3 or 4 girls.

This is a strategy that works even iin places for which you have absolutely no clue what the going rate is. It gives you the best chance to choose the best price.

Of course the many articles in ISG will give you enough information on prices that the "secretary problem" technique is not needed anymore.

But from time to time it still comes in handy.

Suppose I'm in a German FKK or big fishbowl and I have an afternoon or evening to spend there. Price is not an issue as there is a standard tariff of 50 EUR /30 minutes. Service quality in the room is difficult to assess, so we have to assume that it is also somewhat standard over all girls. Therefore the only element of choice will be "how beautiful is he" or rather "how close does she come to my idea of the girl I like to spend 30 minutes with in close proximity". I cannot check out each girl, since they come and go during the day, some are already in the room with other mongers ad if I hesitate too long my "best" choice might be picked up by someone else: so I don't have a perfect view of what quality is available. I also don't have unlimited money or stamina: after 3 pops it's over and done.

How to optimize my sessions?

Simple. I apply the above theory: If there are about 30 girls around, I will check about 12 of them (chosen at random) and give them a score as objective as possible. Yet I choose none of them but I will take the next one (still choosing at random) that has a score higher than the best of those in the first dozen.

[Kumbu]

The Coconut Bar must be, IMHO, the BEST value for money in Pattaya. I was there two weeks ago and the selection was rather good.

I found the best area for a reasonable choice to be between Central Rd and Soi 13.Very much agree: Coconut Bar is excellent value, but only if you are able to find someone to your taste.

In my experience, there is always someone available on Beach Road, but the chances of that someone being pretty enough for me to bed is very hit and miss. Sometimes it is teeming with beautiful girls, sometimes there is no one younger than 40 or weighing less than 140 pounds. And the locations for where the good girls are vary by night, by season, and by random, as far as I can tell. So it requires luck and some leg work to get the right person from Beach road, IMHO.

My own attitude to Beach Road is to take a stroll, look to see what is on offer, and if something catches your fancy, grab it immediately. Don't be shy or coy, just grab it, because if you try to shop around and double back, the girl may be gone. Also, and this is my actual point: I never rely on Beach Road as my sole option. If your game plan is to pick someone from Beach Road, then the chances are that you are in for a long night. But in my experience, when I have found someone on Beach Road, it has generally been nice, low-cost, and satisfying. So definitely worth consideration.

[Uncle Volodya]

That's not really game theory: that's deciding on basis of full knowledge of all possibilities.

Interesting stuff. You certainly know a lot more about stats / econometrics / econ than I do.

I thought it was game theory because it was structuring the interaction so that the dealers competed over you, removing any rice collusion between dealers, so that they are forced to chose their worst acceptable price point because of their fear of being under-cut by the other guy and losing the sale. Kind of like Prisoner's Dilemma.

I'm sure a smooth negotiator like Mr E could pull something like this off at 808 (he probably does on a nightly basis). 555.

[Gannaton48]

Very much agree: Coconut Bar is excellent value, but only if you are able to find someone to your taste.

In my experience, there is always someone available on Beach Road, but the chances of that someone being pretty enough for me to bed is very hit and miss. Sometimes it is teeming with beautiful girls, sometimes there is no one younger than 40 or weighing less than 140 pounds. And the locations for where the good girls are vary by night, by season, and by random, as far as I can tell. So it requires luck and some leg work to get the right person from Beach road, IMHO.

My own attitude to Beach Road is to take a stroll, look to see what is on offer, and if something catches your fancy, grab it immediately. Don't be shy or coy, just grab it, because if you try to shop around and double back, the girl may be gone. Also, and this is my actual point: I never rely on Beach Road as my sole option. If your game plan is to pick someone from Beach Road, then the chances are that you are in for a long night. But in my experience, when I have found someone on Beach Road, it has generally been nice, low-cost, and satisfying. So definitely worth consideration.Agree! Was there yesterday evening, girls for all tastes. Having been in Thailand many years ago, I am surprised to see how many young girls (not only on BR) wear some extra pounds. McDonal is also here. After a long search I found a nice girl, although she was fun she did'nt exactly what promised: CIM. I found that CIM is'nt easy to get here. I was interested by several girls at Frog Bar (some cuties here) but none would do CIM. Unfortunately that's what I like.

[Christian G]

After a long search I found a nice girl, although she was fun she did'nt exactly what promised: CIM. I found that CIM is'nt easy to get here. I was interested by several girls at Frog Bar (some cuties here) but none would do CIM. Unfortunately that's what I like.Speaking in general, I think you were unlucky. Of course not all girls allow CIM in Pattaya but I always found some girls that do it quite easily.

[Banana Boi]

I found that CIM is'nt easy to get here. I haven't found it a problem except restrictive soapy girls. My favorite was a Kinnaree girl who said "Thank you for sperm".

[Haven123]

That's not really game theory: that's deciding on basis of full knowledge of all possibilities.

If there was a database containing a list of all available ladies with an objective and quantified description of their qualities and their price, then it would be trivially easy to search for the "best".

But such database does not exist and we cannot call or walk around and ask them all their price and then go back to the "best" as she may already be gone by then.

BUT there does exist a solution to this problem and I described it in http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1822554&viewfull=1#post1822554 and followed up in http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1822939&viewfull=1#post1822939.

It is an "mongerish" application of the age old "secretary problem" (http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Secretary_problem).

If you only look at the price (which you can do if the candidates are all more or less of the same quality, say Soi 6 girls or top-level agogo clubs or Beach Road hookers) then you ask the price of the first 3 or 4 girls you meet but don't pick any of them. As from then on you pick the first girl you meet that is cheaper than the cheapest of these first 3 or 4 girls.

This is a strategy that works even iin places for which you have absolutely no clue what the going rate is. It gives you the best chance to choose the best price.

Of course the many articles in ISG will give you enough information on prices that the "secretary problem" technique is not needed anymore.

But from time to time it still comes in handy.

Suppose I'm in a German FKK or big fishbowl and I have an afternoon or evening to spend there. Price is not an issue as there is a standard tariff of 50 EUR /30 minutes. Service quality in the room is difficult to assess, so we have to assume that it is also somewhat standard over all girls. Therefore the only element of choice will be "how beautiful is he" or rather "how close does she come to my idea of the girl I like to spend 30 minutes with in close proximity". I cannot check out each girl, since they come and go during the day, some are already in the room with other mongers ad if I hesitate too long my "best" choice might be picked up by someone else: so I don't have a perfect view of what quality is available. I also don't have unlimited money or stamina: after 3 pops it's over and done.

How to optimize my sessions?

Simple. I apply the above theory: If there are about 30 girls around, I will check about 12 of them (chosen at random) and give them a score as objective as possible. Yet I choose none of them but I will take the next one (still choosing at random) that has a score higher than the best of those in the first dozen.Good stuff!

IMO, it all depends on the kind of venue you are in. I do like your theory and strategy though (I did read it the last time you posted it). I too use a similar type of approach, except I don't do any quantitative or objective scoring in my mind. I leave it completely up to my biological visual and sensory field to input, at the gestalt level, and to intruct me, instinctively. I love the complexity of information that I get to process at a place like Insomnia. I feed on it, and it sustains me! Crazy, I agree.

Now, with all due respect for your greater experience, strategy and success todate (which I admire), I would observe that neither your theory / strategy application, nor the game theory approach can work where a girl has the option of saying no to a customer, and is perfectly able to excercise that option (I. E. Does not need your money that night).

IMO, in places like Insomnia, for example, many non-objective, non-rational things can also come into play, that could cause the universe of potentiality to intercede in your maxization strategy / decisioning. The human face even subtle differences- expressions, a guy's specific approach, the guys attire, another guy making contact a milli or micro second before you make your move etc etc can all create " visual and interpersonal feeling induced information chaos " . There may also be a kind of unknown "field" (like a magnetic field -but totally different....for example if we are in a mathematical universe) at work.

At a place like Insomnia there can also be 'information chaos' when a girl perceives (rightly or wrongly) that there are many good looking men out there at that time, and the girl feels (rightly or wrongly) that she could potentially have her cake and eat it too. Which is why so many girls leave Insomnia alone at 6 am! Good looking ones. I enjoy seeing them exit, wondering what happened, never knowing that the place was giving them feedback, but they return and don't make any adjustments based on the feedback loop. Haha.

Or, if the girl is a very occasional pro who does not badly need the money that particular night. Or, has money coming in regularly from a foreign source.

But, there are a couple of caveats; if you are young, late 20's, good looking guy, dresses fashionably smart, with say 5,000-6,000 baht to spend, I think the maxization of your kind of objective function, subject to your various quality constraints, can certainly work at Insomnia as well. However, I think no one (not even you) can maximize potential ' pleasure ' a priori. For this, prior knowledge and experience with a specific girl is required, and even then many other things can produce decreasing marginal return in ' pleasure' a second time around, particularly when expectations are thrown into play. So, I think we can only work with expected pleasure maxization ?

And the second caveat being that even at Insomnia if you don't look terrible, I think approaching any girl with say a 8,000 baht offer will also work. Money will and can trump all else in such a venue. I totally avoid this, even though I could employ your strategy with my kind of maximization objective function (with my subjective gestalt level sensory inputs).

FYI, I have been rejected by some good looking young girls at Insomnia just at first glance, or first "1 second" pass. Although they never knew how much I could, or would have been willing to pay. And they will never know! That's cause if I get the instinctive sense that a girl does not care for me, I completely and totally lose interest in that girl, no matter the strength of my wallet. I will never ever chase a girl, no matter how hot she is, or how much I may want her. Give me the feeling you don't like me and it's over from my end, sayonara forever. In this respect, I could never really successfully employ your kind of maxization function / strategy. Such is life! We are all made different I guess. Some more so than others?

[BushWhack]

I am usually sound asleep by midnight, yes, silly to be in Pattaya and asleep by midnight! This morning found myself wide awake at 4:30 am. I've never walked Beach Road at this hour and wondered if many of the gogo girls would be wandering by as they go home. I crossed Beach Road from my hotel (Marriott) and immediately saw a very pretty, small spinner leaning against the beach chairs. Said her name was Naughty and she asked THB 700 for short time. I countered with 500, then we agreed on 600. She seemed reluctant to take my offer, maybe as reluctant as I was to go shopping at 4:30 am. But off we went and had a great time. By the end of the session she was anxious to give me her digits and asked me to please call her at 8 or 9 pm, not wait until so early in the morning. I was shocked to learn she is 35 years old, her body said 25! Young attitude as well. I'll definitely call her for round two before I leave Patts.

[Banana Boi]

Re. Bar closings July 15,19, and 20, this is from Glass House's Facebook stating police's closing instructions. From what I hear though other bars will be opening before midnight July 20. Wonder if police will be out busting and closing bars tonight and July 19-20.

"In accordance with the police's instructions and in observation of the Thai holidays. , The Glass House Agogo will be CLOSING at 1 am on Saturday night July 16th. And, we will CLOSE at midnight Monday, July 18th, we will remain closed all day Tuesday, July 19th, and, we will reopen AT midnight on Wednesday, July 20th. We sincerely wish all, rewarding and relaxing time away, and we look forward to returning to our normal hours of operation at midnight on Wednesday July 20th. Thank you. ".

[Uncle Volodya]

I haven't found it a problem except restrictive soapy girls. My favorite was a Kinnaree girl who said "Thank you for sperm".Great!

I have never tried Kinaree. Btu now its on my to do list. .

Hitting GT in Bruggen next week! Thanks for the tips! I will let you know how it turns out.

[Gannaton48]

Great!

I have never tried Kinaree. Btu now its on my to do list. .

Hitting GT in Bruggen next week! Thanks for the tips! I will let you know how it turns out.I've been at Kinnaree to day, 3 pm. Only a dozen girls, good part beautiful for sure. Some a bit pushy, others don't even consider you. Atmosphere is very relaxed. I took Pim for CIM. But like yesterda.

[Gannaton48]

Great!

I have never tried Kinaree. Btu now its on my to do list. .

Hitting GT in Bruggen next week! Thanks for the tips! I will let you know how it turns out.I've been at Kinnaree to day, 3 pm. Only a dozen girls, good part beautiful for sure. Some a bit pushy, others don't even consider you. Atmosphere is very relaxed. I took Pim for CIM. But like yesterday with a FL from BR, she did it almost to the end: when explosion came, she withdrew mouth. Would I repeat at Kinnaree: yes for price. Quality ratio (1 K for girls, 350 for room, drinks cheap) and the relaxed ambiance and the beautiful girls if compared to most other places. No for sex as such: at the bitter end, a s is often stated here, you know only once in room if the girl is good or not. Paradoxically, the best selection I found at Rasputin massage, about 100 girls with many real cuties. But the prices lie between 2500 and 3500: the price to pay for beauty (I did not stay).

[Banana Boi]

Did Pim agree to CIM and pull out? If so that's not good.

12 seems a bit low for Kinnaree but it is holiday week. I haven't found the current lineup to be all that great but maybe because I'm used to it.

I'll point out the Sperm Girl for you, UncleV. She hates me now maybe because I didn't even tip her 10 baht.

[EihTooms]

Speaking in general, I think you were unlucky. Of course not all girls allow CIM in Pattaya but I always found some girls that do it quite easily.From my recent experience in Pattaya I would say it is quite easy to have a run of that kind of bad luck in not finding P4 P girls who will finish a BJ with CIM.

I have spent 2-3 days and nights in Pattaya 4 times over the past 2 1/2 years or so and only found 1 bargirl who actually agreed to it and accomplished it out of about two dozen approaches and requests for it on my part. Outdoor beer bar girls, go-go girls, freelancers, more than a dozen if not two dozen requests in Pattaya and only 1 said yes and meant it.

I spent one evening being lectured by at least 6, yes 6, different P4 P girls working various clubs on Soi 6 on what a sick fuck I must be to even suggest that any Thai girl would ever do that for a man! LOL. Mind you, I was only asking these Pattaya girls if they would finish a BJ with CIM. I wasn't even asking them to swallow!

That was the last night I spent in Pattaya. I high tailed it back to my beloved Bangkok ASAP and have not given a moment's thought to returning. I consider that issue to be one among several that accounts for Pattaya's P4 P scene being cheaper than Bangkok's. There are many more unskilled low achievers who could never cut it in Bangkok working there, imo.

[ShinShin]

I've been at Kinnaree to day, 3 pm. Only a dozen girls, good part beautiful for sure. Some a bit pushy, others don't even consider you. Atmosphere is very relaxed. I took Pim for CIM. But like yesterday with a FL from BR, she did it almost to the end: when explosion came, she withdrew mouth. Would I repeat at Kinnaree: yes for price. Quality ratio (1 K for girls, 350 for room, drinks cheap) and the relaxed ambiance and the beautiful girls if compared to most other places. No for sex as such: at the bitter end, a s is often stated here, you know only once in room if the girl is good or not. Paradoxically, the best selection I found at Rasputin massage, about 100 girls with many real cuties. But the prices lie between 2500 and 3500: the price to pay for beauty (I did not stay).I was in Pattaya a few nights waiting for a connection flight, I went to the Kinnaree for the first time, actually I checked it again the next day, both times had about 10-15 girls, seems busy in the afternoon, but both times I could not find anything to my taste, a bit younger less than 24 and slender and babyless. There were a few passable looking ones but with stretch marks, so I did not take them. The place was quite relaxed, some girls approach you, some don't. I also went to Bliss Lounge for the first time, could not find one that could slightly excite me even for just a BJ. But girls were quite friendly no stress.

I checked many MPs as well, seems like the girls I would do are all in the really high categories, Rasputin, the Sabais, Honeys all have a few doable ones for me, but all in the 3 k-5 k range. I did not even want to try these at this price range, seeing these cuter ones get constantly called by tourist customers all day, I can imagine the service level. Pattaya for me is getting harder and harder to find someone younger, slender, babyless, passable look at reasonable price.

[Nit The Cream]

Hi there everyone,

I just have a doubt. Can you book st or LT on the girls who normally stand outside the bars trying to get the customers to go into the clubs? Yes you can. Last year I did a short time with a bleach-blond door girl from Ginza. And on a trip before that I picked up a Secrets sign girl LT, and also did ST with a cutie sign girl from in front of Iron Gogo that I had stopped by to chat with.

The Iron girl wanted me to buy her a drink inside the gogo, and when we sat down inside, there was an even cuter dancer onstage eyeing me. I would have chosen the dancer if I had seen her first. The'oh!

[Banana Boi]

Yes you can. Last year I did a short time with a bleach-blond door girl from Ginza. And on a trip before that I picked up a Secrets sign girl LT, and also did ST with a cutie sign girl from in front of Iron Gogo that I had stopped by to chat with.Don't Ginza and Iron use their regular gogo girls out front. Most WS gogo clubs are the same. LK Metro is different and they have regular hostess girls out front.

[Conan23]

Don't Ginza and Iron use their regular gogo girls out front. Most WS gogo clubs are the same. LK Metro is different and they have regular hostess girls out front.Yes, Iron Club GoGo dancers put the hostess mini dress over their bikini when they do a shift as a door girl. Always look closely at the door girls outfit to see if you can spot another skimpy uniform or bikini underneath which is a clue that she is really a GoGo dancer.

Skyfall has their GoGo dancers do shifts outside as door girls in their GoGo dancer uniform.

Baccara seems to have more dedicated door girls since their uniforms are very different then their GoGo dancers or hostesses.

[Ee2002]

Damn, I've been reading these threads a lot more in recent months (stopped logging on regularly about 6 years ago) and didn't realize how high the prices are in Pattaya. I have been there 3 times, with the first being the beginning of last year. Before taking my first and subsequent trips, I didn't do much research, since I went with a buddy the first time who had been there a few times (too lazy to RTFF, LOL). I have mostly stuck to the clubs (Insomnia / iBar, 808, Flex), Soi 6, a couple of message places on Soi Bukhao and tried the soapies twice. Other than the soapies, I've never spent anything close to or more than 2 K THB (other than tips and food).

Not to say that I've been doing good, just didn't realize there were such high prices as the ones posted on this site in Pattaya. I didn't really care for the gogo scene, since I don't drink and don't do lady drinks. To me once I see a girl I like and want, other than price negotiations, it's name, rank and serial number, then it's action time. No need to wine and dine, but that's me. After reading how bad the gogo's are, I think I will continue to pass on those places, although the chicks appear to be very hot. From what I could see, there are plenty of decent hotties at the other cheaper venues. As far as ST vs LT, I'm more of a ST guy, but most of the FL's I picked up at the clubs stayed and were down for multiple hits without any prompting. Hell, I had a harder time getting them to split. These were all the ones that agreed to $1500 THB. When the bar fine cost as much as I pay for FL and Soi 6 girls, then that's not the place for me.

[Mr Enternational]

Yes, Iron Club GoGo dancers put the hostess mini dress over their bikini when they do a shift as a door girl. Always look closely at the door girls outfit to see if you can spot another skimpy uniform or bikini underneath which is a clue that she is really a GoGo Why does any of that matter? If you like the chick just tell her to come with you. They are all hookers. Unless you just want to fuck someone for the title you think they have.

[Ssdel]

Any changes in ground situation please report brothers as I am planning a trip in September.

Advise needed in all aspects.

TIA.

[Banana Boi]

BKK raid effects

Any changes in ground situation please report brothers as I am planning a trip in September.

Advise needed in all aspects.

TIA.You may want to post in the BKK thread then. This is Thailand A LOT can change between now and September.

[Member #4591]

Any changes in ground situation please report brothers as I am planning a trip in September.

Advise needed in all aspects.

TIA.Guys nothing will change too much! Maybe we will see a decline in P4 P offered on the premises and that should be the case. I for one am excited about this change. Soi Cowboy and Nana will always be here since no sex is on the premises, just girls working in the bars. They will have to cut out the nude or topless dancing though. The massage girls will flock to the go go bars and the freelance scene will increase 10 fold. Chat apps will be flooded with freelancers looking for customers and all will be normal. Normal bars will see a huge influx in business so the balance will be set and all will be happy. Any massage places will start to operate underground like in most countries. Who cares, compensate and enjoy Thailand, the girls are not going anywhere.

[EihTooms]

Guys nothing will change too much! Maybe we will see a decline in P4 P offered on the premises and that should be the case. I for one am excited about this change. Soi Cowboy and Nana will always be here since no sex is on the premises, just girls working in the bars. They will have to cut out the nude or topless dancing though. The massage girls will flock to the go go bars and the freelance scene will increase 10 fold. Chat apps will be flooded with freelancers looking for customers and all will be normal. Normal bars will see a huge influx in business so the balance will be set and all will be happy. Any massage places will start to operate underground like in most countries. Who cares, compensate and enjoy Thailand, the girls are not going anywhere.Agree. We are centuries away from Thailand getting its shit together well enough economically with safety nets, entitlements and so on to ensure hot, young lazy or needy girls won't choose P4 P over most other options.

And whenever you cut out the middle man, pimps, the useless interloper barfine collectors, remove the girls from a venue culture that more often than not just becomes a training ground for how to get more money for providing less and the interaction between the girl and her customer is blissfully direct, the better off both the girls and the customers will be IMO.

[BushWhack]

I walked Beach Road Monday night to find one of my usual contacts (long time THB 1,000), at 9 pm there was an amazing selection all the way from the Hilton to Walking Street. I've never seen so many, nor so many high quality choices. But as I made the return trip around 11 pm there was a police presence underway and the girls were laying low. Not gone, clusters of girls sitting in groups on the beach or across the street, but no ladies standing in position along Beach Road. I saw about eight police officers near the entrance to Walking Street, not really doing much, just standing around, but apparently they were near the end of their journey.

My usual contact told me she leaves Beach Road at 11 pm as lately there is sure to be some police coming by. This on the heels of the article I read in the Sunday Bangkok Post about reducing this type of action in both Bangkok and Pattaya. Now 7 pm and I'm heading out again, I expect the selection to be back to normal. If not, or if I witness another police action I'll post.

[AcidBurns]

Any massage centers offer lingham massage in pattaya.

[SirWilliam4]

Any massage centers offer lingham massage in pattaya.You are kidding. Right?

[Eszpresszo]

Damn, I've been reading these threads a lot more in recent months (stopped logging on regularly about 6 years ago) and didn't realize how high the prices are in Pattaya.Can you please define what you consider high prices, because you have have obviously had some prior experience, and I'm trying to get my trip to LOS in October.

Note that in the past 9 months, I have mongered in Berlin and Medellin. In Berlin, I never paid more that 90 Euro for an hour (though 100 or higher is more the standard. I'm a value shopper). In the Casas of Medellin I paid from 60,000 to 160,000 COP for an hour (that's around $20 - $50 USD). I realize prices are a moving target, but would be curious about what you consider to be fair.

[Flyte137]

The prices are more or less similar when you get to the bottom of it. The cheapest I have had is in Athens where there are options available even for 10 & 20 Euro. Across other European nations like Germany, Amsterdam, Brussels, etc a quick one would be 50 Euro and may go upto 100. Even Indonesia was pretty cheap in comparison.

LOS was great value for money and the experience was more GFE than mechanical. An average price for ST would range around 1000 to 1500 Baht and LT around 2000 to2500 baht. Rest depends on how good the girl is, where you meet her and how drunk you are when you take a decision.


Can you please define what you consider high prices, because you have have obviously had some prior experience, and I'm trying to get my trip to LOS in October.

Note that in the past 9 months, I have mongered in Berlin and Medellin. In Berlin, I never paid more that 90 Euro for an hour (though 100 or higher is more the standard. I'm a value shopper). In the Casas of Medellin I paid from 60,000 to 160,000 COP for an hour (that's around $20 - $50 USD). I realize prices are a moving target, but would be curious about what you consider to be fair.

[Wolvenvacht]

Can you please define what you consider high prices, because you have have obviously had some prior experience, and I'm trying to get my trip to LOS in October.

Note that in the past 9 months, I have mongered in Berlin and Medellin. In Berlin, I never paid more that 90 Euro for an hour (though 100 or higher is more the standard. I'm a value shopper). In the Casas of Medellin I paid from 60,000 to 160,000 COP for an hour (that's around $20 - $50 USD). I realize prices are a moving target, but would be curious about what you consider to be fair.Pricewise, the bottom of the market is with the streetwalkers of Beach Road: 500 to 1000 baht (USD 15 to 30) for one pop or max 2 hours (whatever comes first) plus the cost of a short time hotel unless you bring her to your hotel.

Next up are the Soi 6 bars: standard price of 1000 baht for her and 300 baht for the room (thinly disguised as a "barfine") plus some drink, or in total about 1500 baht (USD 45) for one pop.

You take your chances with the quality at these levels, but good sessions can be had in Soi 6 if you don't mind the sometimes rather down-market surroundings.

[Nit The Cream]

I feel kinda bad that you did not score at Insomnia.

So, a couple of thoughts for you, BECAUSE it takes about 3 nights and at least about 12-15 hours to figure out the girls....Thank you for the insightful info. And thanks to Kumbu for his report of his experience there, bad and good.

I have never spent any time there, just poked my head in the door there once (What do you mean I can't take my umbrella in?). And haven't spent much time in Lucifer Disko either. I thought they were too crowded for my taste, and I am not a disco dancer guy.

I also expected that it gets "happening" late, and I generally wanted to be in my room with company by 2 am. But I also realize that I am missing out on good stuff.

Once when I was heading back to my room in the Grand Hotel at 2:30 am, I passed 3 girls that I had seen dancing at an LK Metro gogo earlier that night. They were heading to walking street to freelance after their shift, I figured, but I was too spent to follow. I will try the nap at 9 pm suggestion, and definitely give Insomnia another try now.

I appreciate the advice I have read here. (I lurked awhile) and I know my game could use a lot of improvement.
Thanks everyone!

[Mr Enternational]

Pricewise, the bottom of the market is with the streetwalkers of Beach Road: 500 to 1000 baht (USD 15 to 30) for one pop or max 2 hours (whatever comes first) plus the cost of a short time hotel unless you bring her to your hotel.Actually the bottom of the market is the crack shacks. 200 baht.

[Wolvenvacht]

Actually the bottom of the market is the crack shacks. 200 baht.Or the down-on-their-luck ladyboys at the beach who will gve you a BBBJ on the spot for whatever you throw at them.

https://youtu.be/SDVEP4eQWmg

50 baht

[Eszpresszo]

Thanks for your feedback, guys. That helps. I am just more than a bit put off by the concept of a bar fine and marked up lady drinks. Can't see myself paying it, even if money was no object. Guess it will be freelancers for me, and I have read up a bit about venues where freelance girls work beside the street. Those prices are not bad at all from my Western perspective. But, I can understand if some old hands are disappointed by what they say is a declining experience and higher cost.

I do go to other sources for info on Pattaya, such as youtube and noticed Pattaya has its share of massage parlors. One vblogger commented that the MPs put the price signs for the various services out front during the day, but the signs are gone in the evening. I am curious if there is any value there as well, or if the "upsells" for additional services just make this false economy. Any comments on those?

Funny, I do read posts from people who complain about rising prices in Thailand, and are opting for Cambodia or Laos. However, a brief look at travel costs to those places, and other related costs ($35 just to enter your country?) would appear to again result in false economy? Or am I missing something there?

[Wolvenvacht]

I do go to other sources for info on Pattaya, such as youtube and noticed Pattaya has its share of massage parlors. One vblogger commented that the MPs put the price signs for the various services out front during the day, but the signs are gone in the evening. I am curious if there is any value there as well, or if the "upsells" for additional services just make this false economy. Any comments on those?Massage places advertise prices of between 200 to 400 baht for one or two hours of "oil" massage.

Of course that price does not include any of the naughty services. Those you negotiate directly with the girl. The price for the massage you pay to the house and is - more or less - their form of barfine.

I too used to be upset by the concepts of barfine and ladydrinks, until I realized it doesn't matter. Just add up all the costs (your drinks, her drinks, price for the room or barfine or massage costs, her fees, . . .) and then decide. "Cheap" and "expensive" at first sight may be really different when you look at the whole.

For instance, a Beach Road freelancer may be cheap and you pay no barfine, but you have to pay for a ST hotel room unless you bring her to your hotel room which may be more far away so you need a taxi to get there. If would not be fair to the Soi 6 girls not to include the ST room costs or taxi-fare to your hotel and even the extra time you spent in getting there when comparing total prices. And it wouldn't be the first time a freelancer asks you to buy some food or drinks for her. Sometimes they don't even have condoms with them, so you have to add those too.

And when picking up freelancers from discos and such, you better bring an accountant with you to keep tabs on all the extra costs!

[Mr Enternational]

Thanks for your feedback, guys. That helps. I am just more than a bit put off by the concept of a bar fine and marked up lady drinks. Can't see myself paying it, even if money was no object.I can't imagine paying them myself either. As a matter of fact I just met a chick online. She said she is a bar girl. I said okay. Maybe you can come stay with me one night. She asked me to come pay the bar fine. I said no. You can just come after work. She said okay. You are smart.


I do go to other sources for info on Pattaya, such as youtube and noticed Pattaya has its share of massage parlors. One vblogger commented that the MPs put the price signs for the various services out front during the day, but the signs are gone in the evening.Maybe that was an old post. At most massage places the prices are printed on the windows. To be clear, in general a massage parlor is just a massage parlor and extras can not be guaranteed, unless you are at certain sex shops that are open under the guise of massage parlors.


Funny, I do read posts from people who complain about rising prices in Thailand, and are opting for Cambodia or Laos. However, a brief look at travel costs to those places, and other related costs ($35 just to enter your country?) would appear to again result in false economy? Or am I missing something there?You are indeed missing something. It actually costs to get into or leave out of every country, but the price is usually included in your ticket and the airline passes the money on to the proper government authorities.

[DeathWish]

Hey,

Had 2 nights layover in Thailand while returning from China. Thought of taking full advantage of it and head to Pattaya for the layover. Was waiting in immigration. Long line fellas took me almost 3 hours to clear immigration but gave me enough time to research on the place to stay in Pattaya. Booked VT6 near Central mall considering all the good reviews of the place.

Completed Immigration came to the fourth floor as per the advice of seniors and caught a taxi dropping off passengers and heading back to Pattaya for 900 B. VT6 condo was every bit as advertised huge room with spacious balcony and modern interiors. Settled down comfortably it was around 9 had something to eat and slept off keeping an alarm of 12 . Headed down to WS could see loads of banner for the early morning marathon. Did not give it any thoughts. Headed to Tonys Disco on a friends recommendation and boy was it good. Huge Spacious floor with ample sitting place and tables everywhere, they charge a entry of 250 b which can be redeemed for a drink (not bad considering all the gogos around want me to buy a drink first and then get inside).

Found a empty corner and sat down sipping my beer music was mostly Indian with some Arabic songs interspersed. Was on my third drink when saw a beauty down near the DJ console. Held my bottle up to her said salud, she found that to be funny and came over. We spoke for some time I bought her a drink a tequila to be specific.

I told her that I want her for LT only and not looking for ST she said 2000 b for the same we agreed on the condition that we will take a room upstairs (200 b) come back after we have shagged once and then party some more and go back to my room. She was okay with it.

We went to the room and started talking. And man can she talk. It was like seeing a mirror image of myself we were chattering for about 45 minutes when the receptionist knocked telling time was almost up (Who does that) we laughed loudly at this and I told her to take bath. She undressed in front of me and whoa was that a sight to behold. Shiny White Skin, Slim Waist juicy lips and supple tits. Guys that why bad boys go to Pattaya! LOL.

I joined her in the shower cleaned her with my tongue. We were kissing madly when she pushed me aside and asked me to come on the bed. I carried her there and had one of the most passionate sex I have ever had. I still perspire thinking of that wow.

Anyhow we dressed paid something extra to the receptionist and came back partying. Around 2 30 they closed down the disco saying that cops have asked them to I am not sure why some said it was because of the marathon some say because of immigration I did not bother asking.

We came out and she took me to the beach just opposite the first 7/11 outside of WS. It was quite romantic and eerily erotic I always wanted to try it on the beach but did not like to have sand in my butt but what the hell I was game for it. We were kissing each other my hands exploring her body when suddenly a group of 5-6 students I don know they were quite young came on the same spot. They must have been crazy drunk I tell you cause they went skinny diving at 4 am on a beach which was for a loss of better words Dirty. Anyhow it was fun watching them (girls included).

I Smiled at NUT yeah that was her name and I just told her lets call it a day. We went to my room had some of that tasty German I want to get high shit (jagermeister) were fully sloshed went to sleep with both of us naked.

Got up around 11 she was still sleeping my hands were exploring her body she stirred gave me a smile and took my tool in her hand gave me a sloppy BJ. Morning BJS are the best, Slipped on a condom and drilled her in missionary came in about 10 minutes.

Took her out to a Indian restaurant for breakfast. Paid her around 3000 b for the whole amazing experience. Have taken her number will meet her when I am going back to China during the month of September (will ensure at least a 5 day layover).

Cheers

[Haven123]

And when picking up freelancers from discos and such, you better bring an accountant with you to keep tabs on all the extra costs!I'm sorry, but at least in Pattaya, IMO and in my experience, that statement / conclusion is utter, total BS.

People who prefer GOGO girls, and who like to point and click, may not like the extra, time, work etc that a Club like Insomnia requires. I only buy a drink after I have a deal. No need at all to buy before, unless you want to party with a a girl there for several hours.

And there are no other costs after, unless you wish to extend and keep a girl for days. Which I have done, because I just wanted to.

IMO, lazy folks, folks who have limited or no game, or those that just want purely sex and nothing else, will never really like a place like Insomnia. And that bull about needing an accountant is nothing but crap pulled out of one's behind.

[BionicMan]

You are indeed missing something. It actually costs to get into or leave out of every country, but the price is usually included in your ticket and the airline passes the money on to the proper government authorities.The air ticket doesn't include visa costs, be it only a stamp on the passport.

Airport taxes include a whole variety of services, such as baggage handling, security checks, etc. But do not include the immigration services.

These are provided by the government.

Of course, very creative government decided that lifting 10 or 30 or 50 bucks for a "visa" is a nice wwy for them to turn immigration services from a cost center into a profit center.

All of a sudden, at the simple rate of 10 $ per visitor, at a rate of one every 3 minutes, each agent can generate 200 $ an hour income. Not bad. And 10 $ is very conservative.

[Banana Boi]

She said she is a bar girl. I said okay. Maybe you can come stay with me one night. She asked me to come pay the bar fine. I said no. You can just come after work. She said okay. You are smart.I sway from E's post depending on how many hours until the bar closes and how much the BF is. If it's 2 am, the BF is 1000 baht, and the club closes in 2 hours I will wait. If the BF is 600 baht I may consider it. If it's 9 pm, I want to take the girl to a dance club first and the BF is 1000 baht I will bite the bullet and BF her. If the BF is 1500+ I will work harder on meeting her on her day off which is always my first choice.

[Banana Boi]

I am just more than a bit put off by the concept of a bar fine and marked up lady drinks. Can't see myself paying it, even if money was no object. If you had $10 million, you would not BF a lady you think is super hot for under $50 (1000 baht BF + 160 baht LD)?

[SxyManHyd]

Any massage centers offer lingham massage in pattaya.Most do massage your gingham but do not expect a traditional authentic penis massage. Most girls will just try to get it up and done with it.

[Goatscrot]

If you had $10 million, you would not BF a lady you think is super hot for under $50 (1000 baht BF + 160 baht LD)?If I had 10 million USD I would not be engaging in P4 P in Pattaya. I would be living and playing in much more expensive climes with a far higher class of working girl.

[Eszpresszo]

You are indeed missing something. It actually costs to get into or leave out of every country, but the price is usually included in your ticket and the airline passes the money on to the proper government authorities.I'm quite aware of that, having traveled abroad since the late 70's. But, thanks for your input. I was referring to out of pocket costs on top the more expensive airfare (or extra plane trip) to begin with. I've understand other travel expenses in nations neighboring Thailand can be higher. All that adds up. And that is what I mean by "false economy". Otherwise, a mere $35 for a visa would not be an obstacle.

[Member #4698]

If I had 10 million USD I would not be engaging in P4 P in Pattaya. I would be living and playing in much more expensive climes with a far higher class of working girl.I don't know about that. I would still find the climate desirable for half the year anyway and the cuisine pleasing to my palette, not to mention the relative safety of Thai Buddhist culture and the fact that I find some Thai girls very attractive. But you are right in that if I had $400,000 in disposable annual income to play around with I would definitely up my game a tad and search for the "car show pretty" and TV model girls BKKdog was talking about a few days ago. To that end I would have annual memberships with at least 2 or 3 high end BKK G-clubs and get well known in those places. Since money would be no object, I think I would do quite well with upper echelon Thai girls wherever they may be hanging out. I would start with a few of those agency girls working in What's Up A Go Go. Some of them are pretty hot. They would constitute my new "low end" and I would take it higher from there. Of course taking long 4 or 5 day weekend breaks in Macau, Tokyo, Jakarta, Manila, Moscow or anywhere else truly beautiful girls are found would be a regular thing that I wouldn't think twice about.

Hey, this is not too much different than what I do now only with adequate financing I would be able to do it year round instead of for just 2 months a year. Life is pretty good. I have no real complaints. Besides, its only money.

"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." - George Best

[Uncle Volodya]

I don't know about that. I would still find the climate desirable for half the year anyway and the cuisine pleasing to my palette, not to mention the relative safety of Thai Buddhist culture and the fact that I find some Thai girls very attractive. But you are right in that if I had $400,000 in disposable annual income to play around with I would definitely up my game a tad and search for the "car show pretty" and TV model girls BKKdog was talking about a few days ago. To that end I would have annual memberships with at least 2 or 3 high end BKK G-clubs and get well known in those places. Since money would be no object, I think I would do quite well with upper echelon Thai girls wherever they may be hanging out. I would start with a few of those agency girls working in What's Up A Go Go. Some of them are pretty hot. They would constitute my new "low end" and I would take it higher from there. Of course taking long 4 or 5 day weekend breaks in Macau, Tokyo, Jakarta, Manila, Moscow or anywhere else truly beautiful girls are found would be a regular thing that I wouldn't think twice about.

Hey, this is not too much different than what I do now only with adequate financing I would be able to do it year round instead of for just 2 months a year. Life is pretty good. I have no real complaints. Besides, its only money.

"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." - George BestSounds like a tough life. 555. Where the hell do I sign up?

[Member #4698]

Sounds like a tough life. 555. Ricky Nelson singing "Travelin' Man" https://youtu.be/0janfcZ8LUw.

Dion singing "The Wanderer" https://youtu.be/IkoidwsLXCg.

I still get a kick out of watching these old videos, remembering the impact they had on me as a very young middle class pre-adolescent American boy. I guess I was a born punter because I always wanted to love a lot of girls and not just one. Nothing has changed 60 + years later.

[Uncle Volodya]

Ricky Nelson singing "Travelin' Man" https://youtu.be/0janfcZ8LUw.

Dion singing "The Wanderer" https://youtu.be/IkoidwsLXCg.

I still get a kick out of watching these old videos, remembering the impact they had on me as a very young middle class pre-adolescent American boy. I guess I was a born punter because I always wanted to love a lot of girls and not just one. Nothing has changed 60 + years later.More power to you my friend. You are just as much of a legend (at least on this board) as those two!

[Uncle Volodya]

I Smiled at NUT yeah that was her name and I just told her lets call it a day. We went to my room had some of that tasty German I want to get high shit (jagermeister) were fully sloshed went to sleep with both of us naked.

Got up around 11 she was still sleeping my hands were exploring her body she stirred gave me a smile and took my tool in her hand gave me a sloppy BJ. Morning BJS are the best, Slipped on a condom and drilled her in missionary came in about 10 minutes.

Took her out to a Indian restaurant for breakfast. Paid her around 3000 b for the whole amazing experience. Have taken her number will meet her when I am going back to China during the month of September (will ensure at least a 5 day layover).

CheersI am happy you had a great time and it sounds like you found a winner.

I think I have only been to Tony's once and that was at least 8 years ago. My impression was that it was an Arab place and that the girls were a bit on the chunky side (not my thing. But hey different stroked for different folks). Nevertheless, after reading your report I may pop in to have a look next month.

Ibar every night can get a little monotonous after a few weeks.

What is the best time to go? From your post it sounds like you hit the place around midnight.

Thanks for your FR!

Stay horny my friend.

Uncle-V.

[Haven123]

Ricky Nelson singing "Travelin' Man" https://youtu.be/0janfcZ8LUw.

Dion singing "The Wanderer" https://youtu.be/IkoidwsLXCg.

I still get a kick out of watching these old videos, remembering the impact they had on me as a very young middle class pre-adolescent American boy. I guess I was a born punter because I always wanted to love a lot of girls and not just one. Nothing has changed 60 + years later.60 years later? Wow! I had no idea whatsoever that you were the same age as Uncle V!

No wonder you guys are birds of a feather!

And still Hanging! Together! 👻

[Haven123]

Sounds like a tough life. 555. Where the hell do I sign up?UncleV.com

[Opebo]

Tried Kinnaree recently. Good service & reasonable value at 1,300 all in, though not my style: very cold & _clinical. I also don't like this kind of place where there are as many or more punters as service providers.

[HotStud251]

Anyone stayed in LK MANSION pattaya.

Is it girl friendly.

Any joiners fees in hotel?

Thanks.

[Member #4698]

I also don't like this kind of place where there are as many or more punters as service providers.Ugh! I hate sausage fests.

[Brbhaskar]

Anyone stayed in LK MANSION pattaya.

Is it girl friendly.

Any joiners fees in hotel?

Thanks.Almost all hotels in Pattaya are girl friendly. When booking always mention 2 adults and there will be no joiner fees if you bring only one girl.

[Cool]

Thanks for your feedback, guys. That helps. I am just more than a bit put off by the concept of a bar fine and marked up lady drinks. Can't see myself paying it, even if money was no object. Guess it will be freelancers for me, and I have read up a bit about venues where freelance girls work beside the street. Those prices are not bad at all from my Western perspective. But, I can understand if some old hands are disappointed by what they say is a declining experience and higher cost.

I do go to other sources for info on Pattaya, such as youtube and noticed Pattaya has its share of massage parlors. One vblogger commented that the MPs put the price signs for the various services out front during the day, but the signs are gone in the evening. I am curious if there is any value there as well, or if the "upsells" for additional services just make this false economy. Any comments on those?

Funny, I do read posts from people who complain about rising prices in Thailand, and are opting for Cambodia or Laos. However, a brief look at travel costs to those places, and other related costs ($35 just to enter your country?) would appear to again result in false economy? Or am I missing something there?
Massage places advertise prices of between 200 to 400 baht for one or two hours of "oil" massage.

Of course that price does not include any of the naughty services. Those you negotiate directly with the girl. The price for the massage you pay to the house and is - more or less - their form of barfine.


And when picking up freelancers from discos and such, you better bring an accountant with you to keep tabs on all the extra costs!Cambodia may seem like a bargain flying from nearby Thailand but it isn't a top 20 mongering destination. As mentioned airfare and lodging which isn't pricey say $400 usd would be better spent staying in Thailand. I wasn't impressed with Phnom Penh freelancers. The guaranteed action massage parlor is overpriced. Cambodians and Viet are slimmer than Thais overall. Thailand is much easier and has volume and variety. In hindsight I dreaded going to PP over Phuket. A lot of bar-girls want excessive drinks and start negotiations at 50 USD. I have gotten better performance at discos than scripted soapies. Negotiation is key at Ibar. If your spending over 2 k you should be getting a solid 8 under 30 years old. The math is simple. If a chick wants go go territory money in ibar and your game is weak go the go go route and get the stunner and hope she isn't starfish or runner. Spending BKK disco money in Patts is foolhardly.

[OlBa42]

Anyone stayed in LK MANSION pattaya.

Is it girl friendly.

Any joiners fees in hotel?

Thanks.I have stayed there twice, and never been asked for a joiners fee.

I booked room for two, stayed only one person, but took up to two girls for a visit.

[HotStud251]

Sorry wrong thread post.


Anyone stayed in LK MANSION pattaya.

Is it girl friendly.

Any joiners fees in hotel?

Thanks.

[FunExplorer]

Anyone stayed in LK MANSION pattaya.

Is it girl friendly.

Any joiners fees in hotel?

Thanks.You can check about hotels in Pattaya Hotels form. As a rule most of the hotels do not have joiner fees and almost all hotels in Pattaya are girl friendly. They obviously know why you are there!

[Uncle Volodya]

60 years later? Wow! I had no idea whatsoever that you were the same age as Uncle V!

No wonder you guys are birds of a feather!

And still Hanging! Together! 👻Haha. Us septuagarians will out party you sextagerians any day!

[Haven123]

Haha. Us septuagarians will out party you sextagerians any day!LOL! Probably true! But, be that as it may. Love seeing you happy! Be Happy my friend!

[GoodEnough]

Haha. Us septuagarians will out party you sextagerians any day!And here I thought I was th only one! Thanks Uncle V.

GE.

[Member #4591]

Anyone stayed in LK MANSION pattaya.

Is it girl friendly.

Any joiners fees in hotel?

Thanks.Take a look in the Pattaya hotel forum. That would be the first place I would look and post my question.

[FaceCushion]

Was looking for some BDSM options in Pattaya and only found this one. Damages were steep, but such fantasies come at a cost. Spent around 7 K for 1.5 HR with two mistresses, cummed twice.

The place was itself little off from the walking street or from any 'action' in Pattaya, anyways navigated my way to the "dungeon". I was expecting it to be in some shady corner, but it was boldly situated on a busy road. Rang the bell and was greeted by a lady who told me about the entry fees (900 baht for entry and beer). After agreeing to this, was let in. The place was very dimly lit (kind of a Gothic feel). I was the only customer there, got all the attention. Sat down for a beer. The girls were the same as they have on their website, no surprises there. Six girls (four slaves / two mistresses, probably everyone they had) started the demo for me to select the girls from. Wax torture, spanking / flogging / bondage etc. Picked up both the mistresses for 1. 5 HR session. Total damage asked was 6. 8 K baht (including entry). Wasn't in mood for negotiation, agreed promptly. They showed me around asking to choose the place for the action and then talked about my fetishes. They had all sorts of props / cells you would expect in a dungeon. Went for a 'vanilla' room. Quickly showered and then the women took over. Tied me to the bed, they were over me for the remaining time, face sitting / trampling / choking / HJ. The second HJ became rather rough, but was well worth it.

[Banana Boi]

Recent visit to this place on Soi Lengkee near 3rd Road. When I walked in I knew it was a mistake. Anyone who sessions here clearly has a different level of optics than I seek. Determined I managed to pick a girl to try out the service level. I managed to find a girl who was lower 50% of soi 6 quality. The rest would have been bottom of the barrel Soi 6. Only opted for 500 baht BJ. It was actually very good and CIM was no problem. BJ right at the bar is fine so exhibitionists may find this appealing. Damage 300 barfine + 500 BJ. If you don't care what a girl looks like the budget conscious can try La Poste. If looks counts for anything in your criteria skip this place.

I'd recommend nearby Pirates or Club 007 over La Poste.

[Uncle Volodya]

Recent visit to this place on Soi Lengkee near 3rd Road. When I walked in I knew it was a mistake. Anyone who sessions here clearly has a different level of optics than I seek. Determined I managed to pick a girl to try out the service level. I managed to find a girl who was lower 50% of soi 6 quality. The rest would have been bottom of the barrel Soi 6. Only opted for 500 baht BJ. It was actually very good and CIM was no problem. BJ right at the bar is fine so exhibitionists may find this appealing. Damage 300 barfine + 500 BJ. If you don't care what a girl looks like the budget conscious can try La Poste. If looks counts for anything in your criteria skip this place.

I'd recommend nearby Pirates or Club 007 over La Poste.Good info BB. And handy comparison to Soi 6. I see that I have not been missing anything by skipping this place. I have a hard enough time finding girls I am attracted to on the 6.

Incidentally, how would the optics level at Pirates or 007 compare to Soi 6?

Thanks for the post!

[Banana Boi]

I have problems finding girls on Soi 6 as well but if you look hard and often enough they are there. One of the best imo is this girl from Nightwish. One of the few who are gogo girl quality. She has a Japanese following like a top gogo girl.

I like one girl at Pirates and 1 girl at 007, both would be high end Soi 6. Think of the 3 bars as 3 Soi 6 bars except cleaner. Unless you have a motorbike, enjoy walking, or are staying a long time there is no need to go here unless you're like me who will seek every nook and cranny to find that hidden gem. So far my tedious search has resulted in a gem at a tiny obscure bar off 3rd Road, way off the beaten path. My main girl in Pattaya.

[Sunlover2]

Was looking for some BDSM options in Pattaya and only found this one. Damages were steep, but such fantasies come at a cost. Spent around 7 K for 1.5 HR with two mistresses, cummed twice.Thanks for the field report on The Castle. Unlikely I will ever make it there, but enough people ask about this alternative in Pattaya that it is good to have the intel. I wonder if the two most inclined Devils Den ladies could approach a similar type experience as a less hard core but more reasonably priced option?

SL.

[Mohit317]

Was looking for some BDSM options in Pattaya and only found this one. Damages were steep, but such fantasies come at a cost. Spent around 7 K for 1.5 HR with two mistresses, cummed twice.

The place was itself little off from the walking street or from any 'action' in Pattaya, anyways navigated my way to the "dungeon". I was expecting it to be in some shady corner, but it was boldly situated on a busy road. Rang the bell and was greeted by a lady who told me about the entry fees (900 baht for entry and beer). After agreeing to this, was let in. The place was very dimly lit (kind of a Gothic feel). I was the only customer there, got all the attention. Sat down for a beer. The girls were the same as they have on their website, no surprises there. Six girls (four slaves / two mistresses, probably everyone they had) started the demo for me to select the girls from. Wax torture, spanking / flogging / bondage etc. Picked up both the mistresses for 1. 5 HR session. Total damage asked was 6. 8 K baht (including entry). Wasn't in mood for negotiation, agreed promptly. They showed me around asking to choose the place for the action and then talked about my fetishes. They had all sorts of props / cells you would expect in a dungeon. Went for a 'vanilla' room. Quickly showered and then the women took over. Tied me to the bed, they were over me for the remaining time, face sitting / trampling / choking / HJ. The second HJ became rather rough, but was well worth it.Thanks. I plan to go there next week. Any other tips from your side would help. I believe they give full service. Right? Can you mention the girl's names as well?

[Uncle Volodya]

I have problems finding girls on Soi 6 as well but if you look hard and often enough they are there. One of the best imo is this girl from Nightwish. One of the few who are gogo girl quality. She has a Japanese following like a top gogo girl.

I like one girl at Pirates and 1 girl at 007, both would be high end Soi 6. Think of the 3 bars as 3 Soi 6 bars except cleaner. Unless you have a motorbike, enjoy walking, or are staying a long time there is no need to go here unless you're like me who will seek every nook and cranny to find that hidden gem. So far my tedious search has resulted in a gem at a tiny obscure bar off 3rd Road, way off the beaten path. My main girl in Pattaya.

Thanks for the info. i think I will give these places a pass for now as I think time is better spent trawling the Six and other locations.

I am glad your search has paid off. Haha. It's amazing when you can find a regular girl like that. Unspoiled by the gogo or disco scene.

Yes, there seem to be at least two or three good ones at Nightwish these days as well. It will be one of the first places I hit next week. Maybe we can meet up. I owe you a beer form your Germany recommendations ;)

[Mr Enternational]

I am glad your search has paid off. Haha. It's amazing when you can find a regular girl like that. Unspoiled by the gogo or disco scene.I wouldn't say that. The girl that I know who works in 007, I met in 808. Me and my wingman went there the next day and he fucked her. I fucked her friend (that I met in 808 at the same time) who used to work there but stopped because she felt guilty fucking married guys.

[FaceCushion]

Thanks. I plan to go there next week. Any other tips from your side would help. I believe they give full service. Right? Can you mention the girl's names as well?Not sure about full service, was not my wishlist for that day. I believe the 'slave' girls might give, the mistresses most likely not. Didn't ask for the names but the two girls (domina) on the site's home page were there. Attaching the pics of the girls (taken from their website) who definitely were there.

[Sunlover2]

Thanks. I plan to go there next week. Any other tips from your side would help. I believe they give full service. Right? Can you mention the girl's names as well?Normally traditional hard core professional dominatrixes will not provide extras like BJ / FS as it is just not in their repertoire. They believe a truly dominant P4 P session does not involve those activities, and refer to those who do as an escort with a whip. Different strokes for different folks 555.

Not sure what is usual and customary in Thailand, but be it Dom or sub I would not assume and certainly ask in advance about FS being the menu. That is why I speculated about the DD possibility; likely less intense rough stuff play, but FS ++ for sure.

SL.

[Mr Enternational]

Have some fucking manners. At my usual breakfast restaurant and a foreigner comes with no shirt on, turns the fan on and sits right in front of me. Who the hell goes in a restaurant with no shirt on back home? Another case of leaving the brains at the airport.

But anyway. Met a chick online yesterday. Works in a massage shop. No kids. Came over and stayed all night. Was bugging me to fuck this morning before going to the shop to clean. Pics were her idea. Usual 1000 baht.

[FuckSake87]

No prob if you bring in girls. Except they will ask for ID. No Joiner fee.

I was there in Feb.

[Mr Enternational]

On Second Road at 8 this morning and I just saw the Beach Road dark skinned chick named Nana that people used to post and rave about. She is now old, fat, and burned out.

[TomHaverford]

I am in BKK on business trip this week, and I get weekend for pleasure. I matched with this Latina girl (see attachment) on Pattaya tinder.

See looks sexy and all but asked for THB 5000 for an hour (see sent few nudes too), I believe asking price is way too high.

Has anyone met her? Is she any good? I am really tempted to spend some time with her.

[Uncle Volodya]

On Second Road at 8 this morning and I just saw the Beach Road dark skinned chick named Nana that people used to post and rave about. She is now old, fat, and burned out.Is that the one with the porn vid you can find online? She was indeed delicious back in the day. But like Charles Barkley says, "Father time is undefeated. ".

[Alex7J]

I am in BKK on business trip this week, and I get weekend for pleasure. I matched with this Latina girl (see attachment) on Pattaya tinder.

See looks sexy and all but asked for THB 5000 for an hour (see sent few nudes too), I believe asking price is way too high.

Has anyone met her? Is she any good? I am really tempted to spend some time with her.Go to Mixx in the smoking area and you will find her and about 5-6 Latinos on each given night. If you are not a club guy and want early evening pussy just across the road is Spasso in grand Hyatt erawan the same or about 3-4 Latinos you will find there also.

Cheers.

[Wolvenvacht]

I am in BKK on business trip this week, and I get weekend for pleasure. I matched with this Latina girl (see attachment) on Pattaya tinder.

See looks sexy and all but asked for THB 5000 for an hour (see sent few nudes too), I believe asking price is way too high.

Has anyone met her? Is she any good? I am really tempted to spend some time with her.Market forces at work. You pay high because supply of Latinas is low.

[Member #4698]

Has anyone met her? Is she any good? I am really tempted to spend some time with her.Tom, the absolute best advice I can give you is "when in Rome, do as the Romans do" and forget about this "Latina" chick. Believe me, as soon as you arrive in Pattaya, you will be surrounded by hundreds of friendly and sexy Thai girls who will show you a much better time that Miss Latin America will. Ha Ha. So don't fight the odds. Put your "Latina" desires on hold until such time as you are visiting Colombia. I guarantee you that when you are in Medelln or Bogota, you will find hundreds of better looking and better performing Colombianas and for a lot less money than this one in Pat.

In LOS the local fruit is always sweeter. Try the fresh Mangos and Durian in the marketplace and forget about those apples and pears shipped in from thousands of miles away.

[Ssdel]

Though the quoted seems high but if you are lusting for a Latino as I am go ahead and enjoy.

Tempting catch.

Cheers


I am in BKK on business trip this week, and I get weekend for pleasure. I matched with this Latina girl (see attachment) on Pattaya tinder.

See looks sexy and all but asked for THB 5000 for an hour (see sent few nudes too), I believe asking price is way too high.

Has anyone met her? Is she any good? I am really tempted to spend some time with her.

[BionicMan]

I am in BKK on business trip this week, and I get weekend for pleasure. I matched with this Latina girl (see attachment) on Pattaya tinder.

See looks sexy and all but asked for THB 5000 for an hour (see sent few nudes too), I believe asking price is way too high.

Has anyone met her? Is she any good? I am really tempted to spend some time with her.Feel Free to dream when at home, we all do that.

Then forget all when you board the plane and erase all data when you land.

Start from scratch.

Thailand is a land of hunt. Where is the point in fixing there and get your prey in the hotel room without the plessure of the search. ?

To do so no need to fly, stay home and order room service from some local provider at home.

So just go there, hit the road, Jack, and report.

[Mr Enternational]

I am in BKK on business trip this week, and I get weekend for pleasure. I matched with this Latina girl (see attachment) on Pattaya tinder.Those are Colombians who come here from China to reset their Chinese Visas. As Alex said, they hang in Mixx. Most of them have a lot of plastic surgery. Fake ass, tits, lips. I speak Spanish and still have not been able to get them down from 5000 baht. No way I am giving that much money when I can fuck their cousins in Colombia for only $12.

As Natty Bumpo said, when you go somewhere you feast off the local fare. Shit that is considered exotic will cost you an arm and a leg. Thai food here costs me $2. Chick back in the States got me to take her to a Thai restaurant and it cost me $100.

[Mr Enternational]

Speaking of Mixx, I rode by there last week thinking about going to Lima Lima that someone had posted about a while back. I did not see the Lima Lima sign there anymore and saw an Indian flag instead. Maybe that explains the cover charge they were talking about. The Indian discos that I have been to the foyer of here all charge to get in. There was also some destruction going on to another part of the building.

[TomHaverford]

Fake ass, tits, lips.Thanks for your help. Nudes she sent does confirm fake tits and ass.

I guess, I will stick to Thai girls.

[David 2]

Speaking of Mixx, I rode by there last week thinking about going to Lima Lima that someone had posted about a while back. I did not see the Lima Lima sign there anymore and saw an Indian flag instead. Maybe that explains the cover charge they were talking about. The Indian discos that I have been to the foyer of here all charge to get in. There was also some destruction going on to another part of the building.I've seen various blurbs about this. It seems that part of the building was built illegally. I'm quoting a response posted about a month ago from another site.

"I spoke to some people in the know last night at Mixx (It is still open.) That front section of Lima Lima, the veranda being torn down, is illegal and will be removed as it is now. The back section, where Mask is (Which is now closed) will be removed.

At this time, Mixx, Brooklyn and the little diners in the front and Starbucks are all legal and will remain. Lima Lima, the inside part, will remain. For now.

They are likely to only destroy the offending locations and save the rest of the building. Mixx is 100% legal and in the legal part of the building before other owners encroached and are fighting this tooth and nail (Obviously, it was packed wall to wall last night)".

[AsianLust]

Firstly, as the title says, Thank you guys. I've learned a ton of information before every stepping foot in Pattaya from you all. I've RTFT about 500+ pages of reports over the past 26 months of lurking (BKK / Pattaya). I finally made an account a few months back on ISG. Now I'd like to give back since I've learned so much from you all. I'll be spending the $20 to connect with some of you for my Nov-Jan trip soon too.

For anyone planning a first time trip – read up, be prepared, know your pricing for different activities and learn a couple Thai words / phrases. Then when you actually get to Pattaya, you'll likely forget it all and let your horny desires take hold, enjoy yourself. I am still new to the P4P scene, but ISG helps immensely.

My first trip to Thailand was to BKK in April of 2014. It was a short, only 4 days. I booked it on a horny whim while traveling in Europe. Found a cheap flight from BCN and off I went with Emirates Air. (Their flight crew is beautiful and service is top notch. Not what I'm used to from the US) Landed in BKK and off I went to the Majestic Grande. I was unprepared and had no idea what I was getting into then, but I knew after 4 days / nights that I found my new favorite destination of travel / short retirements / remote work destination. What happened in the next 96 hours was. Eye-opening, life-altering, wild, dirty nasty fun. I'the never experienced anything quite like NEP and Soi Cowboy. I felt like a deer in headlights my first night walking around, taking it all in. The girls, the smiles, the sexy tan skin, the skinny little things walking around with barley a skirt and high heels on, girls tugging at you to bring you into their club / bar / go-go. This was all new. I read about it, heard about it, watched YouTube about it, but none of that really prepared me for my first night walking around Soi Cowboy and NEP and sitting at one of the bars on Sukhumvit Soi4 after dark people watching or going to Annie's Soapie Massage for a late afternoon soapie.

Sorry, I must digress, this is the Pattaya Reports thread.

Been back to Thailand 7 times since 2014 and can't wait to go back at the end of Nov. I can post some past reports from the last couple years if that would be wanted, they are out dated, but still in my memory bank. My recent trip was in April / May 2016.

April 2016 - Day 1/2.

My flight leaving LAX was delayed 3+hours on the tarmac. Ugh not a good start, I was connecting in NRT which I now had anxiety about making that connection. Couple guys on the plane were going to BKK also a bit nervous about making that connection. Arrived to NRT arrival, learned connection already left. Re-booked on another flight ETD 1 hour from then, perfect. Nope, didn't happen, plane has mechanical issues. Delayed 2 hours. The'oh! I finally arrived in BKK; 5 hours later than I should have. It was 11 pm. I was tired, but I knew what was ahead, Pattaya pussy. I'the hoped to be already with a PYT at the Areca Lodge by 11 pm, but not tonight.

My routine is customs, ATM, TrueMove, Taxi stand. (This is probably everyone's routine now that I think about it). Negotiated a taxi for 1,100 bht tolls included (not Mr. T, but decent pricing and newer van). Thanks to you guys I knew what I should pay for a taxi to Pattaya.

Arrived to Areca Lodge around 1:30 am. Showered and off I went looking for that ice breaker. Didn't bother going to LK Metro, directly to WS. I was smiling ear to ear on the motorbike while we were zipping down the streets, looking at all the lovely ladies in their short shorts and mini skirts. I love Thailand and especially Thai girls.

Got dropped on soi Diamond. Walked down the street to grab a beer and water from 7/11, but wanted to check out the talent as I strolled down the street. Just like I remember in from my Dec'15/ Jan'16 trip. Sexy girls everywhere.

The lights, the music, the mini skirts, sexy legged, slim bodied, smiling Thai girls all around! For me, it's a feeling that happens when it's my first night of the trip, looking for some action. Even the dirty uneven streets of WS, the smell of tasty food remind me "I'm in Pattaya. " It wasn't early, so I figured I should check out a GoGo or 2, but first a beer. It was hot and I wanted to check out some eye candy walking along WS. Finished my beer quickly and moved on.

I wandered into What's Up took one look around and saw only one other person in there. A couple girls on stage, one was enthusiastic. A group of girls were sitting on the couches taking shots. They all yelled when they saw me, I grinned gave them a smile and a quick wai. They darted over like a magnet to metal. I smiled as I sat down and had 4 girls around me like I was already handing out baht. They were sweet and mostly drunk ☺. No worries, this should be fun for a bit. So we chatted a bit in English and some Thai. They didn't speak much English and I only speak a bit of Thai, but we had a good time as they were amazed I spoke Thai at all, let alone wai'd when I came in. The group of 6's-7. 5's were fun to mess around with joking, smiling, rubbing their legs as they rotated sitting on my lap. LD were asked for, but I politely said Ha natee krup. They laughed and all was good. Nobody else was there now, so yeah, I got 5 minutes of oogling.

Then I spotted the enthusiastic girl on stage again and got a better look at her body and face. Whoa! She was hot, 8. 5+ hot. She had these sexy curves you don't see often on Thai girls. She had an ass too, not quite a booty, but a round sexy ass. Her smile was bright, her hair was long, black and wavy. She had moves on the stage, not just holding the pole slightly moving around with a 1,000 yard stare, but real moves. She was looking at herself in the mirrors while she danced. We locked eyes for a minute, she smiled got a bit self conscious that I saw her checking herself out, then laughed again and continued dancing around.

Yes please!

I asked one of the girls on my lap about her, said "suay mak" and waved her over. Pretty sure the mamasan wasn't caring much about her shift time on stage since nobody else was inside. Being a good karma believer, I bought the 5 girls shots, they all cheered and got even more frisky. But my prize was Aom (I think this was her name) She jumped on my lap and I felt her soft as silky skin. Her body was firm, her boobs were Thai sized (A / BS) and well shaped. Her skin was on the lighter side of tan and her eyes were electric. Damn, little head was creeping up, he wanted to say "take my money, I want honey. " I gave her plump rump a squeeze from underneath her short short skirt. Oh yeah.

Aom was a winner. She knew she was hot too. This isn't going to be a cheap start, but sometimes these things happen.

We took our shots together and the other girls were happy, but Aom and I were in an intimate stare down with her putting her forehead to mine and looking into my eyes, she pulls away and laughs and comes back to and gives me a small kiss. I'm not a P4P kisser usually, but Aom would be an exception.

Next thing you know the other girls all saw this exchange between us and kinda drifted away and let us get to know each other more. Aom was 22. Lived in Pattaya with her mom. Aom had a kid, typical story, BF was an asshole, didn't want to marry and raise the kid with her, she bailed and moved with her family to Pattaya. Mom doesn't know she works part-time in a GoGo. Said she works at a retail place at Central Plaza too. Etcetera etcetera. BF + ST?

She was coming back with me, so lets cut to it. BF? 600 bht. ST? 3,000. I said 2,500 in Thai, she liked me I could tell (or at least for that moment) she agreed. I settled up with mama, she changed into these sexy white pants and small but wavy top. She looked so hot. She was more than I had hoped to spend the first night, but oh well. It was on.

One of the other great tips I've learned on ISG is late at night, ST usually turns into LT with some girls. Aom was no exception. We stopped by 7/11 for some refreshments for when we got back to Areca. Hopped onto a moto-taxi triple Thai style and we were off.

Aom was definitely buzzed and I was too. I had one hand on the back of the moto and one hand was roaming all around her sexy curves. She turned and gave me this insanely sexy look and I was quickly losing my main brain and letting the little one take over. Stumbled through the lobby to the elevator with her and I just about ran to my room with her in tow. We were all over each other when we walked in. Kissing feeling each others bodies up and down. I pulled at her pants and then top. She took them off quick. She almost ripped my clothes off at the same time. We went to the shower to clean up together. I do enjoy taking a shower with girls. Rubbing, soaping, sexy touching. Yum.

I thought I would be getting a nice shower BBBJ to get the night started, but she got me hard and heated then got out grabbed me a towel and dried me off a bit. Pulled my hand to the bed with a damn sexy walk while her towel was wrapped around her showing off that butt. She knew I liked her ass. I'the said Phom chob gon yai khong khun at least a couple times that already.

Aom dropped her towel and pushed me down on the bed and did a little sexy dance, got shy a bit and laughed then crawled up the foot of the bed locking eyes with me and stopping to kiss around my solider. She teased the shit out of me, but it was worth it. She gave me a great BBBJ using her mouth, saliva and hands. She was kind of sideways on me allowing me to play with her holes while she was doing her job. Got a few shrieks of approval while playing with her, she was enjoying herself. I was ready to plow Aom.

I moved us around so I could lay her down in mish so I could see this lovely girl while stroking in and out of her. Covered up watching my solder go deep into her while her juices kept getting wetter After a couple minutes I wanted CG in to RCG. Who doesn't love watching a pair of lips move up and down, gripping you while slowly oozing juices? RCG got me really wanting to spank her and explore her other hole. It was so tight. I circled it, lubed it, and played with it, put some pressure on it to test the waters while she was going up and down on me. She jumped when I put a bit more pressure on that hole. Looked back at me with eyes that said, "I've never done that, it hurts, feels good, but I'm unsure." If I wasn't rock solid already, I felt like I went into ultra hard, super perv mode with that look. Except she was teasing me. She wasn't going to let me open her up back there. Nope, she let me think I'the get to see her squirm and push back on me while letting a bit more inside her brown cavity letting me keep going deeper BUT not tonight, She let me continue to play with her forbidden hole. Swiping my hand every once in a while when I'the get my finger tip deeper than she wanted. Man I wanted to pound her ass.

We moved into DS and I kept thinking about her brown cavity as it was staring at me while I was plunging deep into her other hole. It winked up at me. I played with it circling, putting pressure on it, hoping she'the give me the OK to withdraw and re-enter her exit hole. She wasn't going to let me. I didn't really care I was balls deep in a beautiful 22 year old girl who was one of most fantastic go-go girls I've been with. I think she enjoyed the additional teasing from me sounded like she came she got sensitive for a quick minute then it was time. I lasted longer than I thought I would with Aom's holes looking up at me while she was face down. I exploded inside of her inside the condom. I hunched down over her, I was spent, jet lagged, buzzed and enjoyed my first night. She too was spent. Aom asked if she could stay cuddle a bit and sleep, of course. With a little boom boom wake up.

We slept till 11 am, missed breakfast, oh well, I got a bit of exercise for my breakfast with Aom.

Showered up with Aom, gave her 2,700 baht. She said to come back to see her after 12 am that day for cheap BF. Walked her out and she gave me a huge hug and kiss in the elevator. Day 1 + 2 was in the books and WOW. I remember Aom like it was yesterday. I only wish I got her number and went back to see her that night, but I was wrapped up with a different girl by 12 am the next day. I'll be hunting for Aom in Nov when I return.

Looks 8.5+.

Service 8.0.

Attitude 9.0.

Repeat ability. Could, would, should and I'the have gotten her brown medallion.

TL; DR. RTFT.

Sorry if this was way to long of a first post. I'll shorten it up next time.

[Hotman 666]

Firstly, as the title says, Thank you guys. I've learned a ton of information before every stepping foot in Pattaya from you all. I've RTFT about 500+ pages of reports over the past 26 months of lurking (BKK / Pattaya). I finally made an account a few months back on ISG. Now I'd like to give back since I've learned so much from you all. I'll be spending the $20 to connect with some of you for my Nov-Jan trip soon too.

For anyone planning a first time trip read up, be prepared, know your pricing for different activities and learn a couple Thai words / phrases. Then when you actually get to Pattaya, you'll likely forget it all and let your horny desires take hold, enjoy yourself. I am still new to the P4P scene, but ISG helps immensely.

My first trip to Thailand was to BKK in April of 2014. It was a short, only 4 days. I booked it on a horny whim while traveling in Europe. Found a cheap flight from BCN and off I went with Emirates Air. (Their flight crew is beautiful and service is top notch. Not what I'm used to from the US) Landed in BKK and off I went to the Majestic Grande. I was unprepared and had no idea what I was getting into then, but I knew after 4 days / nights that I found my new favorite destination of travel / short retirements / remote work destination. What happened in the next 96 hours was. Eye-opening, life-altering, wild, dirty nasty fun. I'the never experienced anything quite like NEP and Soi Cowboy. I felt like a deer in headlights my first night walking around, taking it all in. The girls, the smiles, the sexy tan skin, the skinny little things walking around with barley a skirt and high heels on, girls tugging at you to bring you into their club / bar / go-go. This was all new. I read about it, heard about it, watched YouTube about it, but none of that really prepared me for my first night walking around Soi Cowboy and NEP and sitting at one of the bars on Sukhumvit Soi4 after dark people watching or going to Annie's Soapie Massage for a late afternoon soapie.

Sorry, I must digress, this is the Pattaya Reports thread.

Been back to Thailand 7 times since 2014 and can't wait to go back at the end of Nov.A GREAT first report Asian Lust.

Thank you.

Hotman.

[Soldierb11]

Sorry if this was way to long of a first post. I'll shorten it up next time.Are you kidding? Doesn't matter if your next report is short / medium / long at least you are reporting. And a very good report at that. I was just reviewing many pages on Subic and AC for the annual fall trip and saw dozen different guys asking for info and concluding with "I will drop a report when back" or something like that and 6 months later no word from them. So thank you on your first report.

[Soldierb11]

I am in BKK on business trip this week, and I get weekend for pleasure. I matched with this Latina girl (see attachment) on Pattaya tinder.

See looks sexy and all but asked for THB 5000 for an hour (see sent few nudes too), I believe asking price is way too high.

Has anyone met her? Is she any good? I am really tempted to spend some time with her.As Wolven and natty and a couple others mentioned you have so many more and better options.

I am in Colombia now and that girl is nothing to get excited about at all. Not for 5000 baht not for 1000 baht. IMO they are literally 1000+ or more better looking Thai girls within a kilometer of wherever this girl is in Pattaya. If you are itching for Latina pussy come to South America.

[Kurre]

In general, the work ethic of Russian girls is very high, similar to Brazil or Thailand, EXCEPT in Thailand, where they are so much in demand, that the market is screwed up.I'm not sure if you can make a generalization on Russian work ethics. I've had one of my best sessions in a Prague private with a 19-year old Russian born provider who had lived nearly all her life in Czech Republic. On the other hand, my absolutely worst experience was with a Russian FL (claimed to be an architecture major from SPB) picked up from a bar in Helsinki back in 2002. She agreed to a 2-hour session, no limits on pops, DFK etc. She turned out to be a cold fish in the room and started to head out after first pop (about 15 minutes in to the session).

[FL Hawk]

Firstly, as the title says, Thank you guys. I've learned a ton of information before every stepping foot in Pattaya from you all. I've RTFT about 500+ pages of reports over the past 26 months of lurking (BKK / Pattaya). I finally made an account a few months back on ISG. Now I'd like to give back since I've learned so much from you all. I'll be spending the $20 to connect with some of you for my Nov-Jan trip soon too.Excellent report Lust! I am making preliminary plans to return to Pattaya next November as well. Hope you continue to have a great time!

[Pipul47]

It has been a lovely time that I have spent here. Thanks to all members who keep posting their experiences. It really helps us for our short visits. Was here for 3 days and spent time with 6 girls.

Tony's great Indian. Nice joint for Indians and a good pickup point. Loads of freelancers here.

Sensations. Super place picked up Fi for LT and she was great.

PP Massage. Super place picked up Kimmy and she is amazing in bed. No anal though but let's you finger her asshole. Went to her 2 days in a row.

Devils Den. Was very apprehensive as there were mixed reports but still went ahead. A little expensive but was not in the mood of hunting. Took Luck for a Nuru massage and she is one funny girl. She is very humorous and totally enjoys what she does. What followed was an amazing time with loads of BBJ, Anal, DATY came twice with her.

Rasputin Massage. Nice place but the manager keeps pushing you to select a girl quickly. Got Lita and found out she hardly knew English. But boy o boy she was awesome in bed. Complete GFE. Everything on menu except Anal but insisted on fingering her butthole and she agreed. Does everything to please you.

Next up was from the hotel I was staying. The girl for room service came up serve food and asked me if I want to go for massage. Well I wanted to but this girl was cute and I asked her if she would available for some fun. And to my surprise she agreed the only challenge cannot do in hotel. So I asked her to arrange and call me I will reach the place. So she booked a place near Soi6 and we spent a good 3 hours post her shift. Damage 1000 B for her and 500 B for room.

So in all a happening trip and I am coming back in December.

Thanks again to all. Keep posting.

Cheers.

[Kumbu]

Firstly, as the title says, Thank you guys. I've learned a ton of information before every stepping foot in Pattaya from you all. I've RTFT about 500+ pages of reports over the past 26 months of lurking (BKK / Pattaya). I finally made an account a few months back on ISG. Now I'd like to give back since I've learned so much from you all. I'll be spending the $20 to connect with some of you for my Nov-Jan trip soon too.A truly terrific report AsianLust, thanks for taking the time to write it up and post it.

I particularly enjoyed your report on the flight over (I know, eye rolls all around). I make that NRT connection all the time, and the flight over, plus the connection, are fraught with tension and excitement. It really adds to the experience.

I'm kind of surprised (in a good way) by your positive appraisal of Whats Up. When I went there, I found it to be a money grubbing rip off. I guess I need to visit again. Once again, thanks for the excellent report, and I hope to read more from you.

[Nixonbd]

Chatting with a girl on TF, she said bars closed today and tomorrow? What gives? Thai holiday?

[Christian G]

Chatting with a girl on TF, she said bars closed today and tomorrow? What gives? Thai holiday?Vote for constitutional referendum.

[Nixonbd]

Vote for constitutional referendum.Yeah, saw an article on the news. Had me scared for a second, go to PaTTS in three weeks.

[AsianLust]

A truly terrific report AsianLust, thanks for taking the time to write it up and post it.

I particularly enjoyed your report on the flight over (I know, eye rolls all around). I make that NRT connection all the time, and the flight over, plus the connection, are fraught with tension and excitement. It really adds to the experience.I usually fly Cathay and haven't had to experience the tension and excitement of delays through NRT!

Glad you guys enjoyed the report (Soldierb11 good to know. I do enjoy writing in detail) Working on writing up the other days to post soon.

I feel I got lucky at What's Up. I didn't got back though so I can't say for sure, but YMMV.

[Banana Boi]

Chatting with a girl on TF, she said bars closed today and tomorrow? What gives? Thai holiday?They reopen tonight (Sunday) at midnight. While walking around last night there were random bars open just no music and lights.

Saw a girl on Beach Road with a full glass of beer well past the alcohol cut off time. Being thirsty, the ISG member I was with tried to find out where she got it from.

[Blanquiceleste]

Devils Den. Was very apprehensive as there were mixed reports but still went ahead. A little expensive but was not in the mood of hunting. Took Luck for a Nuru massage and she is one funny girl. She is very humorous and totally enjoys what she does. What followed was an amazing time with loads of BBJ, Anal, DATY came twice with her.
Was the Devil's Den girl an in-call (in the Devil's Den premises) or out-call (at a place outside DD premises)?

[Blanquiceleste]

Sorry if this was way to long of a first post. I'll shorten it up next time.Great report! Keep it up dude. And do not shorten them. People who do not like it can keep ranting. Looking forward to reading more of your exploits.

[Blanquiceleste]

Believe me, as soon as you arrive in Pattaya, you will be surrounded by hundreds of friendly and sexy Thai girls who will show you a much better time that Miss Latin America will.To top it all, the girl dies not even look South American. Christ!

[Blanquiceleste]

Recent visit to this place on Soi Lengkee near 3rd Road. When I walked in I knew it was a mistake. Anyone who sessions here clearly has a different level of optics than I seek. Determined I managed to pick a girl to try out the service level. I managed to find a girl who was lower 50% of soi 6 quality. The rest would have been bottom of the barrel Soi 6. Only opted for 500 baht BJ. It was actually very good and CIM was no problem. BJ right at the bar is fine so exhibitionists may find this appealing. Damage 300 barfine + 500 BJ. If you don't care what a girl looks like the budget conscious can try La Poste. If looks counts for anything in your criteria skip this place.

I'd recommend nearby Pirates or Club 007 over La Poste.I had posted about Bar de La Poste a while ago, exactly the same feelings. The women here are definitely not eye candy, but they have excellent BJ skills, if that is what you are seeking. If you want looks then Clun 4, 007, Pirates on Soi Full Love are a better bet. I would also recommend My Friend You on Soi 6 (recent posting) but it is a tad more expensive than the other BJ Bars. I am told by a friend the Click Bar is also a strong contender on Soi 6. It's on my list for the next visit.

[Mr Enternational]

To top it all, the girl dies not even look South American. Christ!LOL. And how does one look South American? There are the decendants of the Inca in Peru, the Japanese decendants in Sao Paulo, the decendants of Angolan slaves in Bahia, the decendants of white Europeans in Argentina, the natives in Leticia Colombia, the decendants of Indian plantation workers in Guyana, and every kind of mix in between.

[Blanquiceleste]

LOL. And how does one look South American? There are the decendants of the Inca in Peru, the Japanese decendants in Sao Paulo, the decendants of Angolan slaves in Bahia, the decendants of white Europeans in Argentina, the natives in Leticia Colombia, the decendants of Indian plantation workers in Guyana, and every kind of mix in between.I should have added the line "She looks almost middle eastern (Iran? ".

[Haven123]

LOL. And how does one look South American? There are the decendants of the Inca in Peru, the Japanese decendants in Sao Paulo, the decendants of Angolan slaves in Bahia, the decendants of white Europeans in Argentina, the natives in Leticia Colombia, the decendants of Indian plantation workers in Guyana, and every kind of mix in between.Yeah, Mr. ENT, most folks don't have a clue!

BTW, I am super impressed with your knowledge of many things in the international sphere, and also your ability with languages.

I think most guys here maybe don't fully understand you.

[Mohit317]

Not sure about full service, was not my wishlist for that day. I believe the 'slave' girls might give, the mistresses most likely not. Didn't ask for the names but the two girls (domina) on the site's home page were there. Attaching the pics of the girls (taken from their website) who definitely were there.You were right mate.

The dominas give only HJ but since I wanted full service so I chose a slave.

Overall a good one time experience.

Thanks for your help.

[Amit S]

I had posted about Bar de La Poste a while ago, exactly the same feelings. The women here are definitely not eye candy, but they have excellent BJ skills, if that is what you are seeking. If you want looks then Clun 4, 007, Pirates on Soi Full Love are a better bet. I would also recommend My Friend You on Soi 6 (recent posting) but it is a tad more expensive than the other BJ Bars. I am told by a friend the Click Bar is also a strong contender on Soi 6. It's on my list for the next visit.Yeah! I've had great experience in click bar last year. Don't remember the name of the girl but her BJ skills were out of this world. Te quote was 800 bht for BJ and 1200 bht for full service including room on the upper floor.

[WorldTotter]

Mongers,

I am from India and coming to Pattaya this weekend. Really interested to see ping pong show. Any clue of a place with minimum rip off will be helpful.

Any reference of nice girls contacts, places to monger etc well appreciated. PM is on!

Don't mind hiring a local Thai who act as a guide and help to score other women.

I promise to reciprocate if you ever come to Delhi in India or around.

[Blanquiceleste]

Mongers,

I am from India and coming to Pattaya this weekend. Really interested to see ping pong show. Any clue of a place with minimum rip off will be helpful.

Any reference of nice girls contacts, places to monger etc well appreciated. PM is on!

Don't mind hiring a local Thai who act as a guide and help to score other women.

I promise to reciprocate if you ever come to Delhi in India or around.Are these guys for real? The mistakes of the procreation cycle. My my!

[BionicMan]

Mongers,

I am from India and coming to Pattaya this weekend. Really interested to see ping pong show. Any clue of a place with minimum rip off will be
Any reference of nice girls contacts, places to monger etc well appreciated. PM is on!
Don't mind hiring a local Thai who act as a guide and help to score other women.
.Uh? 20,000 posts not enough To guide you through?

In pattaya a guide is needed To Keep you away from the offer.

[Mr Enternational]

I am from India and coming to Pattaya this weekend. Really interested to see ping pong show. Any clue of a place with minimum rip off will be helpful.Are there any places with actual shows like that anymore since Xzone closed? I am not aware of any, even though you will see touts in the street trying to get you to go with them under the guise of seeing a ping pong show. I would say the closest you will come now is Windmill, which does not even compare to how Xzone was with the cue balls, darts, cigarettes, ice, etc.

[BushWhack]

Just leaving Patts, three weeks on-and-off. On day one of my three-week trip the second FL I chose from Beach Road was a very pretty 38 year old, hangs around across from Hooters. I am a long-time guy, want a girl in my bed for morning sex but Noc did not agree to long time, she agreed to THB 500 for short time but said "let's wait and see". After a very long, slow session we both fell asleep, I was worn out! She is incredibly responsive, went crazy each time I sucked / bit / licked her nipples. Morning sex was even better, she seemed even more responsive to my favorite positions, my penchant for slowing, stopping to lick and suck etc. After breakfast I put THB 1,100 in her purse and asked her to meet me in two days as I had to leave town to work for a few days.

When I retuned she seemed excited to go with me. And the sex was even better than the first time. Long, slow after-dinner session, some good sleep then the incredible morning session. Now, as a return customer she seemed go full GFE which made it even more exciting for me. Two days later I took her a third time, then two more times before I left the Land of Smiles, each time dinner, session 1, sleep, morning session 2 then breakfast for THB 1,100. The point of my post is - - unless you're a dedicated butterfly giving a provider some return business may increase the level of pleasure. This is the third time I've been able to find a very suitable lady early in the trip, give her several bits of return business and it gets better with each session.

And then there is the candy-store variety available on the off-days!

[Member #4591]

Mongers,

I am from India and coming to Pattaya this weekend. Really interested to see ping pong show. Any clue of a place with minimum rip off will be helpful.

Any reference of nice girls contacts, places to monger etc well appreciated. PM is on!

Don't mind hiring a local Thai who act as a guide and help to score other women.

I promise to reciprocate if you ever come to Delhi in India or around.I have no idea about ping pong shows in Pattaya but there are plenty in Patpong in Bangkok. As for contacts and information about Pattaya, please read about 2 weeks back up until present and you will see references to an Indian friendly club which would more than suffice for your mongering needs. There's a wealth of information regarding Soi 6, insomnia, and others discos, just read.

Finally, no senior member is just going to hand over contact information for ladies they know to a regular member who always asks questions but never reports back. Do yourself and the rest of the community a favor and post about your experiences in Pattaya when you arrive back home. Then maybe you will earn the respect of the members. Paying for a membership is just the first step but you need to contribute. Don't find yourself in that stereotypical India man section where they are considered selfish, cheap, and conceited. The girls will love you if you are generous, kind, and make an effort to learn some basic Thai. Many Indian men get along just great here because they follow these guidelines. Good luck and happy reading!

[Banana Boi]

No idea why you want to see a ping pong show but just walk along Walking Street and look for guys with cards in their hands who call you in for ping pong shows. Not sure which gogo clubs they belong to.

it can't be that expensive this is Pattaya. If it's your dream to see a ping pong show what's $100?

[Lefeu]

Are these guys for real? The mistakes of the procreation cycle. My my!No need to be conceited, just follow the advice below from Banana Boi and Bkkdog. You should be able to do that easily.

[LittleBigMan]

You being Indian as you already know it might a bit of a problem getting into some of the major go-go, but you never know since it is low season. Ping pong shows are mostly for the tourist groups but not worth the time and money! These are more as they call it sex shows, you see many of the Chinese on tour bus going to them. These venues are usually located away from the main action and the cost is something like 1500 baht. A few years ago I took a friend to the North Pattaya Nua near the bus station for a sex show 1000 baht at that time. The show began with 4 gay guys who must of taken a load of Viagra naked with a single drum hung to their waist and their penis being use as sticks to make noise.

As noted, on Walking St. You might want to ask a barker who carries these sex show cards and ask them about the ping pong and within the area. On Walking street, the entry to Soi Diamond, where Moon Go Go is located the left side there is a small club can't remember the name stairs lead upstairs I see lots of Indian and small Chinese groups going up might be show upstairs.

Give, Sugarbaby, G-Spot, Dollhouse, Windmill, Electric Blue, might see something you like that might lead into a tour guy? Give Soi Honey (massage road) a try? Not sure of your taste? But if you take a show walk up and down in some of these Farang own BeerBars you might find a gem. I've been lucky a few times and got girls who look better / service than some Go-Go. Don't be afraid to try a massage place (not a soapy) but be careful of Ladyboys working unless that is your thing too. I've got a few winners on this Soi, that look as good face and body than some go-go's girls. While you are in the area I've never seen Indians refused entry, couple of my favorites are Paradise, Ninji, I've even taken a few freelancers at the Beerbar called Billabong on the L shape corner of LK Metro.

[Banana Boi]

Really only noticed Billabong the other night while walking through LK with another ISG member. There are some ok girls there. I also liked one of the girls in the small bar beside Billabong. Going to spend more time there moving forward.

The odd gem can be found on Soi honey but you need to look very hard and ignore the many ladyboys on that street.

Another fun place to be is Papagayo club on Soi Diana which isn't mentioned here often. Nearby Cherry (I may be off on the name) bar has the odd decent girl as well.

[Biggusdickus]

I came across this bar by accident today and remembered a recent post here so I decided to give it a try. I was told by two guys sitting in front of the entry that I had to ring the bell to be let in which I did. The door was opened and I was greeted by a choir of about a dozen not really bad but far from good looking ladies. My eyes would have needed one minute to adapt to the dimmed light and two more minutes to find out which lady suited my taste best, but alas, I was not allowed those three minutes. 5 or 6 women came up to me one after the other immediately after I had entered the bar, and I had scarcely enough time to order my beer. After I politely asked for a moment to settle down and look around they left, each of the looking rather displeased. After 2 minutes the female bartender informed me that I had already spent 5 minutes in the bar without choosing a lady and whether I preferred lady boys. By now I had identified two girls standing out a bit from the crowd, one of them just OK and the other quite close to my taste (except for an ugly tattoo.). Unfortunately the latter was busy with another guest, and since I had the feeling that ladies don't remain occupied for ages in this bar I decided to wait instead of settling down with the second best. Bad idea! Even though I ordered another drink I soon felt pushed to chose some lady and the atmosphere turned a bit unpleasant, not really hostile but you can sense it when the staff starts talking disrespectfully about you in their own language. I waited another 5 or 10 minutes, and when the other customer ordered a new drink for his lady I decided to call an end to my first visit to la Poste. I understand that "drink and look guests" are not what the bar is looking for but sorry, I need my few moments before I choose, and when I want to wait I should be allowed to wait. After all my experience boils down to this: bar with a very pushy atmosphere where the staff prefers to see customers leaving than waiting for the preferred lady. Not recommended.

[Blanquiceleste]

Are there any places with actual shows like that anymore since Xzone closed? I am not aware of any, even though you will see touts in the street trying to get you to go with them under the guise of seeing a ping pong show. I would say the closest you will come now is Windmill, which does not even compare to how Xzone was with the cue balls, darts, cigarettes, ice, etc.Don't forget the razor blades. I also remember a chick opening a bottle of Coke with her pussy. Another drained out the Coke into her pussy and re-emptied it into another bottle, but presto!! I t was plain water. The then the proceeded to empty the water into her pussy and then finally re-emptied it into the first Coke bottle as Coke! Fuck! I thought I was too drunk and must be hallucinating. But that is exactly what happened. Gosh!

[Blanquiceleste]

Nearby Cherry (I may be off on the name) bar has the odd decent girl as well.Cherry Bar is a hidden gem indeed. I have taken a total stunner from Cherry during my trip in Feb. Her name was Tan.

[Thampi62]

Mongers,

I am from India and coming to Pattaya this weekend. Really interested to see ping pong show. Any clue of a place with minimum rip off will be helpful.

Any reference of nice girls contacts, places to monger etc well appreciated. PM is on!

Don't mind hiring a local Thai who act as a guide and help to score other women.

I promise to reciprocate if you ever come to Delhi in India or around.Hi friend,

How many days you are in Pattaya?

Try Fish bowl in North Pattaya, Second day you try a go go bar, sweet heart a go go in walking street will be a nice choice, Try massage parlor, if you are lucky the girl will meet you after her work. Beer parlor girls in Soi 7 another option. Try beach area for freelancers, once known as coconut bar is another option. If you are lucky you will get a gold fish. Day time try in Soi 6.

As the senior members said go retrospective on reports for information.

Keep away from pimps.

All the best.

[Java Man]

FYI, Gentleman's Club, Carre Blanc has moved from 3rd Road and Soi 33. It's now next door to Club 4, on Soi Full Love Inn. It's open from 1p to 12a. Everything's the same, except for the evening beer promo. I got there very late last night, so the pickins were very slim. They're having a party this Monday, Aug 15 at 6p.

[TellAll]

Mongers,

I am from India and coming to Pattaya this weekend. Really interested to see ping pong show. Any clue of a place with minimum rip off will be helpful.

Any reference of nice girls contacts, places to monger etc well appreciated. PM is on!

Don't mind hiring a local Thai who act as a guide and help to score other women.

I promise to reciprocate if you ever come to Delhi in India or around.Last thing you want to do is hire a Thai to guide you. Bad idea unless you like getting ripped off. Thais and Falangs travel in different circles. Everything you need to know are in these pages.

[LaoMan]

I came across this bar by accident today and remembered a recent post here so I decided to give it a try.Not recommended.I had a great time there a few weeks ago. Perhaps the girls are not the best looking, but they certainly were not too bad. The were exceedingly friendly and I took two of them and had a real porn star experience.

[Roginho]

I came across this bar by accident today and remembered a recent post here so I decided to give it a try. I was told by two guys sitting in front of the entry that I had to ring the bell to be let in which I did. The door was opened and I was greeted by a choir of about a dozen not really bad but far from good looking ladies. My eyes would have needed one minute to adapt to the dimmed light and two more minutes to find out which lady suited my taste best, but alas, I was not allowed those three minutes. 5 or 6 women came up to me one after the other immediately after I had entered the bar, and I had scarcely enough time to order my beer. After I politely asked for a moment to settle down and look around they left, each of the looking rather displeased. After 2 minutes the female bartender informed me that I had already spent 5 minutes in the bar without choosing a lady and whether I preferred lady boys. By now I had identified two girls standing out a bit from the crowd, one of them just OK and the other quite close to my taste (except for an ugly tattoo.). Unfortunately the latter was busy with another guest, and since I had the feeling that ladies don't remain occupied for ages in this bar I decided to wait instead of settling down with the second best. Bad idea! Even though I ordered another drink I soon felt pushed to chose some lady and the atmosphere turned a bit unpleasant, not really hostile but you can sense it when the staff starts talking disrespectfully about you in their own language. I waited another 5 or 10 minutes, and when the other customer ordered a new drink for his lady I decided to call an end to my first visit to la Poste. I understand that "drink and look guests" are not what the bar is looking for but sorry, I need my few moments before I choose, and when I want to wait I should be allowed to wait. After all my experience boils down to this: bar with a very pushy atmosphere where the staff prefers to see customers leaving than waiting for the preferred lady. Not recommended.I made the same experience about six weeks ago. It was a terrible atmosphere. And like you said, very pushy and unfriendly.

[Java Man]

I went to Kinnaree Place yesterday around 3 p, there were not as many ladies as usual. Went to Club 4, 007, Carre Blanc and Pirates afterwards. All had fewer ladies than usual. I also saw the same on Soi 6. Perhaps many ladies have gone home for Mother's Day celebrations.

[WorldTotter]

I went to Kinnaree Place yesterday around 3 p, there were not as many ladies as usual. Went to Club 4, 007, Carre Blanc and Pirates afterwards. All had fewer ladies than usual. I also saw the same on Soi 6. Perhaps many ladies have gone home for Mother's Day celebrations.I agree! Very few girls and too much crowd yesterday! Let's see how it goes today. Saw ping pong finally for 200 THB. Never again in life. Yikes! One of the barker took me there and I was upfront that no more money. They came for tips, gave 50 and came back.

[Daddy07]

According to Yahoo News Pattaya, Phuket and Bangkok are among the 20 most visited cities on the Planet. I'm not surprised as the Chinese have literally invaded Pattaya in herds and droves these days despite the recent bombings and the Military coup. I've never seen Walking Street so crowded and its low season. I think there are more tourist buses and motor coaches here per capita than any other place in the world. They are clogging every street and Soi in the city.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/these-are-the-20-most-visited-1492319279325238/photo-19-pattaya-1471002852526.html

[JohnnyNeedsMor]

Guys,

So planning my third trip to Pattaya. Just wanted to check if there are any other locations to consider where quality and price are Decent. I think HK is a rip off in terms of price and Kuala Lumpur has poor quality.

[Manfield04]

I'm not that much into agogo girls though I have taken a few in the past. I have also taken a few street walkers from Beach Road but this time I would like to take a few freelancers. I would appreciate if anyone could share contact of freelancers.

Thanks.

[Member #4698]

Guys,

So planning my third trip to Pattaya. Just wanted to check if there are any other locations to consider where quality and price are Decent. I think HK is a rip off in terms of price and Kuala Lumpur has poor quality.The triumvirate as far as I am concerned is Bangkok, Manila, & Jakarta. I easily find the top quality girls I am looking for in these 3 major cities, but it does come at high price. If you are a budget hunter, I think you will find that prices vary widely from really cheap to very expensive girls depending on the venue and the girls you choose to see. There are always some very pretty diamonds waiting to be discovered in the less expensive bordellos and bars.

In the resort town category, there is Pattaya and AC. If you like Pattaya, you will like AC. I am not saying you will like AC more than Pat, that is an unknown - many guys like it more and many guys like it less; what I am saying is I think you will like it. Filipinas are known for their GFE and they speak English. Prices are slightly cheaper in AC as compared to Pattaya for similar quality. You should also give Subic (Barrio Barreto) a look see while you are visiting AC. The Subic nightlife scene is smaller than AC's nightlife, but the girls are super friendly and this is probably the cheapest destination you can find with reasonable accessibility in all of SE Asia. The good news is you can combine an AC / Subic excursion into one trip by spending 4 or 5 days in each town to see if you like it. I think you will.

Lastly Phnom Penh is another Asian city I think you might want to check out at least one time while you are visiting Thailand. Khmer girls are petite and very friendly and prices are generally way cheaper than in Pattaya.

Stay Thirsty,

NB

[Syzygies]

No idea why you want to see a ping pong show but just walk along Walking Street and look for guys with cards in their hands who call you in for ping pong shows. I agree.

I don't even know what is meant by a "ping pong" show, and I have been in and out of Thailand for many many years. Is it ping pong ball drops out of pussy into a glass? Real boring that one. Try a sexy lesbian pussy licking show. That one can be a turn on. Weird stuff is not sexy at all.

[LittleBigMan]

I agree.

I don't even know what is meant by a "ping pong" show, and I have been in and out of Thailand for many many years. Is it ping pong ball drops out of pussy into a glass? Real boring that one. Try a sexy lesbian pussy licking show. That one can be a turn on. Weird stuff is not sexy at all.There is really nothing to the show or act. The ping pong shows I've seen particularly years ago in Hawaii the girl was on a swing and put a few ping pongs in her pussy and shot them out in a cup, customer open their mouth etc. And use the strength of their pussy muscle to propel them out. The best I've seen was a girl who use hard boil eggs and had a customer stand up and open his mouth and shoot one in the laughter was more when she missed and pop off the guys face or head.

There are some interesting shows in Pattaya but as for ping pong? There is a place in Naklua, Soi 29/1 inside this Soi is a few sex show clubs. The one I was in a girl I knew worked in the placed call Club 69. There is another big club behind the Big see, in Central under construction called Big Eyes. I suggest you go to L. K. Metro across from Champage Go Go there is a booth you can buy cheaper tickets from them for the show for 800 baht otherwise at the door it is more like 2000 baht?

Some people like to go to beaches, some to Tiger Zoo, Elephant shows etc.. then some like sex shows?

[BionicMan]

I agree.

I don't even know what is meant by a "ping pong" show, and I have been in and out of Thailand for many many years. Is it ping pong ball drops out of pussy into a glass? Real boring that one. Try a sexy lesbian pussy licking show. That one can be a turn on. Weird stuff is not sexy at all.I rate also a lesbian pussy licking show as boring.

There is a gogo or two in NEP in BKK doing this and, as much as it can trigger you, once you see it, it is nothing special.

Fake or bored licking.

[Banana Boi]

If I'm not in the middle of the hands on action it's boring. Even dumber than all of this is the stupid Japanese guys throwing 10's of thousands of baht or ping pong balls at girls they don't even know.

[Syzygies]

I rate also a lesbian pussy licking show as boring.

There is a gogo or two in NEP in BKK doing this and, as much as it can trigger you, once you see it, it is nothing special.

Fake or bored licking.Okay Boring for you. Originally used to be pretty arousing for me. Not so much after seeing a lesbian show 20 to 30 times perhaps. I would not watch a blow job in porn movies because dick is not exciting. However pussy licking is a much bigger turn on for me.

There are a few real bi-sexual girls working in bars. Plenty of these have been more than happy to do the lesbian shows. I have known more than one working girl, who had a "girlfriend" and liked having sex with girls. Bo at Suzi Wong (BKK) was known to have a Tom girlfriend but eventually ran off with a guy. Dtom claimed she was the best pussy licker in the place. Another girl same bar had a very obvious Tomboy look. I used to take two girls and get private lesbian shows included in the threesome that were pretty good for me. Bo used to tell which girls she had the hots for as well. Maybe not all are so fake. Nat, an ex-stunner from Crazy House was known to have a Tom Girlfriend but seemed to like fucking guys as well. Pheung at Annies is known to have a girlfriend, but seems to be able to enjoy herself with guys too.

[GermanShepherd]

Dear Seniors,

After much RTFF both Pattaya and Bangkok forums here is a short list of places which sounds interesting and would appreciate if the experienced could help me with good contacts / numbers of stunners or let me know if below list are good enough.

1) Rasputin.

2) Devils Den.

3) Honey 1&2.

4) Insomnia.

5) Tony's Bar.

6) Galaxy.

7) Airport.

Please add or suggest to the list with your recommendations.

My choices.

Want to try good threesome for LT.

Do massage girls also join for partying and fun later.

Where to pick up hotties for going to the beach or stay around for LT?

Is it easy to get someone from galaxy for St or LT or any western freelancers around Pattaya or Bangkok?

Asking too. Many questions as want to make it a perfect trip and share my experience with you all.

Thanks In advance.

PMactive*.

[Pinche Gringo]

Will be in Pataya in early December and was wondering if there are any bars that have live sex show. I know it is not the Philippines (which I attended a few shows a number of years ago (pre ISG). Any info will be appreciated.

Thanks,

PG

[Chris Long]

Beach Road: this is where you will find your best deals 700 to 1000 short time. (some even as low as 500) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but most women are in their late 20's to early 30's. There are however some younger (18 and up) girls sprinkled in, there and also some real diamonds to be found on beach road as well. The girls start at the beginning of walking street and go all the way down to Soi 6 (maybe even further, I've never gone past that point). A few available during the day but mostly they start to gather around 7: pm and start leaving by 2: am. The best looking girls in my opinion stand from Mike mall down to walking street.

Soi 11/ Soi Honey MPs: the best in my opinion are the two at the corner of Soi 11 and Soi Buakhao. Again beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it fluctuates but these two always seem to have some hotties available. The MPs on this street will have girls available 24/7 it fluctuates but the two at the far end will often have a dozen or more girls available as late as 3,4,5,or 6 am, again it fluctuates but often have some super hotties available at that hour of the morning as well. Pricing is 1000 short time in house and 300 for takeout. I always take out. Some of the MPs here have decent rooms and decent beds but many just have a row of mats laying on the floor with curtains separating them. Have had an occasional Prima Donna ask for 1500 for herself.

Soi Diana and Soi 7 & 8 beer gardens: can find some decent talent in many of them, standard price is 1000 short time for the girl and between 300 to 400 bar fine. The beer gardens on Sois 7 & 8 all generally want 400 bar fine.

Soi 6: Always a fun time, here you will find some OK looking women and some really hot looking women. The talent in my opinion always seems to fluctuate. That is on one trip I find many hotties to be working at one or two particular bars and then on another trip it seems like different bars have what I consider to be the hotties. It is best to just walk up and down Soi 6 until you see the one you want and then go over to her bar. Bar fine is generally 300 to 350 in some bars and the girls all go for 1000 short time in house. You can also take the girls out for an increased price. I have always done the girls in house as I find the rooms to be decent, clean, AC and good beds.

Walking Street Freelancers: most stand in groups of two or more along the side of the street. You will know they are freelancers because most people on walking street are doing just that walking and these girls will be standing along the side of the street. Some nice looking girls here but in my opinion nothing better than you can find on beach road. Most will want 1500 short time.

Gogo bars: here you will find some OK looking girls to some really hot looking girls. Here you will also find some of the most expensive girls. It fluctuates depending upon the bar and in some depending upon the time of night. But generally plan on paying 1000 bar fine. The girls can be negotiated but generally plan on paying 2000 short time for the girl. Have had a few on LK metro want 2500 for short time. Again it can fluctuate but plan on paying around 3000 to get the girl out the door for short time and this does not include the drinks you buy for yourself and her.

Discos: Insomnia, 808, and Marine disco: In my opinion the best and hottest girls available in Pattaya are found in the discos. Again in my opinion the best is Insomnia, Here you will find some OK looking girls to some super super hotties. Short time prices can be anywhere from 1000 to as much as 5000. Price will depend upon two things how attractive the girl is and how attractive you are to the girl. The super hotties can be very stand offish and difficult to approach they will not send signals out to you (unless of course your Brad Pitt). I personally always go for what I consider to be the hottest girls in whatever venue I am in and the discos are no exception. I take a Kamikaze approach and put on my friendliest face give my best smile and my sweetest voice and approach the table of the super hottie and introduce myself and ask her name. They are almost always cold fish give the 1000 yard stare and not very enthusiastic. I smile pay them some complements ask a little about themselves pretend I am interested and within five to ten minutes of me approaching their table I ask them if they want to go with me. I have had about a 70% to 80% success rate getting what I consider to be the super hottie to go with me. Socially I'm more of a Potsy than a Fonzi and the ideal of spending the evening drinking at her table wondering if she will go with me at the end of the night is not very much fun for me. I would much rather cut right to the chase. I have been paying 2000 on average for short time on occasion in the past I have paid as much as 3000 for a super hottie that I just had to have and on occasion have been able to get a super hottie for 1000 (usually in the wee hours of the morning when the guy she really wanted went with someone else the number of likely customers is dwindling and figuring something is better than nothing she agrees). I have had many super hotties tell me if they really like a guy they will go for as little as 1000 and if they don't like the guy will ask for as much as 5000 and if hes willing to pay that then they will go with him. The discos don't really get going until midnight or 1: am and will go until the sun comes up. Many of the Soi 6 girls like to go to 808 disco after their bar closes at 1: am and can be picked up there for 1000 short time.

(A word or two about the super hot prima donnas with attitude at the discos. I have found that these unsociable prima donnas once in the bed room and in the bed enjoy a good stick man and a good hard pounding. If your a good stick man (practice makes perfect) these stuck up to good to talk to you in the disco girls always respond accordingly and once in the bed and the action starts these stuck on themselves prima donnas really like the services of a good stick man and really like getting a good hard pounding. I have found this to be the case overwhelmingly with the supper hotties with attitude in the discos of Pattaya and the world over).

After work Gogo girls: I have also had a lot of luck picking up walking street and LK metro gogo girls late at night after their bar closes. Wait at the end of walking street or LK metro after the gogos close and watch the stream of girls leaving. Many are quite friendly and easy to pick up because they want to make some money and many will do short time for 1000.

Long time is also available at almost every venue but at an increased rate.

Chris.

[Banana Boi]

Great summary, Chris. Consistent with what I have been hearing but will add a couple more points.

Gogo girls. I have been quoted as much as 2000 barfine and 5000 ST for places like Glass House. Uncle V can clarify but the most ridiculous I have heard yet was at a pseudo gogo bar named Dolls on soi 6. 1500 barfine + 2500 for 1 hour just to go upstairs. 3x more than any other soi 6 bar.

Soi 6 LT. We have been quoted 2500 but like you say likely better off to hit iBar after they get off work at 1 am.

Kinnaree - 2000-2500 LT and no barfine when they get off work at 7 pm.

Good advice on picking up girls as their bars close on their way to their next stop. I have bumped into a few. I call them stragglers.

[Banana Boi]

1) Rasputin.
2) Devils Den.
3) Honey 1&2.
4) Insomnia.
5) Tony's Bar.
6) Galaxy.
7) Airport.
Some interesting choices. I am guessing you are only selecting Rasputin and Galaxy ISO a Russian girl. Imo both are overpriced and not a place to go if you are familiar with top end Russian talent. I've seen one nice one at Rasputin in all my visits. She wanted 7000 baht for 90 minutes. Honey 1 and 2, Sabai Dee and Sabai Room are all better imo.

By Insomnia I assume you mean IBar as well.

Do you mean Airport gogo? If so, it's called Sexy Airline now and definitely not near the top of the gogo bar food chain. If you want to visit a gogo bar, visit Iron, Baccara, Happy, Sensations, Skyfall, Palace, Peppermint, and What's up. There is also LK Metro.

The main thing you are missing is Soi 6 with tons of bars where you can boom boom upstairs for a very low rate. See Chris' post just below. A walk down Beach Road one night around 9 pm to check out the freelancers should also be included in must do list for Pattaya.

All girls are available everywhere. I have been hit on while on a baht bus, while ordering food from a street vendor, while having dinner by one of the girls working in the restaurant, etc. No matter where you go a girl is eyeing your wallet.

[Mr Enternational]

Some interesting choices. I am guessing you are only selecting Rasputin and Galaxy ISO a Russian girl. Imo both are overpriced and not a place to go if you are familiar with top end Russian talent. I've seen one nice one at Rasputin in all my visits. She wanted 7000 baht for 90 minutes. Honey 1 and 2, Sabai Dee and Sabai Room are all better imo.There are Russian girls at soapies now? And they can make their own prices? It has been a long time since I have been to Rasputin, but last time it was all Thai chicks and Indian clientele.

[Banana Boi]

There are Russian girls at soapies now? And they can make their own prices? It has been a long time since I have been to Rasputin, but last time it was all Thai chicks and Indian clientele.I'm not experienced at Rasputin since I feel their lineup is weak but there have been Russians there since at least Nov, 2015. 7k was the price quoted by the bookie. Maybe she mistook me for someone rich. They sit alone to the side not near the other girls. Still mainly Indian clientele at soapies.

[GermanShepherd]

Thank you guys for all your inputs.

Few more queries.

Is it safe to carry some pills or enhancement intakes, or its risky affair at airport?

Beach road hookers, are they safe and hygienic, as few suggested not to go for them because some might have threatening diseases while compared to safe play chicks at gogo bars.

Would love to have at least a Russian or Uzbek hottie as recommendations of getting one at the right price and good service.

Have heard a lot about Devils Den, and other soapies what's the best time to visit? Is it better to take DD chick for outcall or incall. Have seen the gallery are they really that beautiful or just photoshop.

Are Thai chicks into threesome and good action with each other?

Temptation and excitement is building up for coming to LOS.

[Fast Eddie 48]

I'm not experienced at Rasputin since I feel their lineup is weak but there have been Russians there since at least Nov, 2015. 7k was the price quoted by the bookie. Maybe she mistook me for someone rich. They sit alone to the side not near the other girls. Still mainly Indian clientele at soapies.To Banana Boi.

It supply and demand there are always some high roller Japanese or Chinese will overpaid for the Russians at Rasputin, I was there in may there are 2 tall hot Russian girl 7 k and the Thai girl is 3 kto 4 k,I saw a Indian guy counter offer 1 k for a Thai girl to the manager and got laugh at and told to leave to go some where else.

Fast Eddie 48.

[Banana Boi]

Best time to visit the soapies is between 5-8 pm. After that there can be lots of guys.

Carrying drugs through borders is never smart but will leave that up to you. You can easily buy many drugs including fake Viagra for dirt cheap at one of the many pharmacies.

Thai girls in general are not into threesomes but you will find willing participants.

If you happen to find a hot Russian girl please take a pic and send it to me. .

[Sunlover2]

Is it safe to carry some pills or enhancement intakes, or its risky affair at airport?

Have heard a lot about Devils Den, and other soapies what's the best time to visit? Is it better to take DD chick for outcall or incall. Have seen the gallery are they really that beautiful or just photoshop.

Are Thai chicks into threesome and good action with each other?If the pills are of the normal prescription variety in the original pharma packaging and in personal use quantities you should be fine.

Devils Den ladies are as pictured on the website. Some are glamour shots but little real photoshopping. I have found it is better to do a double incall first, and if there is chemistry book one solo to your room on a later day. Nothing wrong with a first time outcall though as they are all pretty skilled.

I believe DD opens at 1 pm you can always go in early, confirm who is available that day, and schedule something either in / out for later. They will ask you have any specific instructions (don't be shy) and if you want the girls in costume. They will ask for a deposit just give them 1,000 baht pay the rest later.

The DD ladies work well together but IMO if you want the best shot at passionate girl / girl specifically mention it, then pick a lady and say her choice to pick her partner.

SL.

[Pipul47]

Was there in Patts recently and visited almost all the soapies during various time slots throughout the few days I was there but did not manage to come across any Russian girls in the soapies. Though in Rasputin there were Thai girls in white badges and was quoted 3800 B the regular red and blue go for 2 k and 2.5 k respectively.


I'm not experienced at Rasputin since I feel their lineup is weak but there have been Russians there since at least Nov, 2015. 7k was the price quoted by the bookie. Maybe she mistook me for someone rich. They sit alone to the side not near the other girls. Still mainly Indian clientele at soapies.

[Pipul47]

DD girls are very experienced and give you great service. Incall or outcall both available and you can try any. They have great clean rooms inside so worth a try. The girls are similar to the pics you see on their website. Select your girl thru the reviews available on their website and call in to check if she is available or busy and then walk in. The manager is a good guy and you must tell him your preferences.


If the pills are of the normal prescription variety in the original pharma packaging and in personal use quantities you should be fine.

Devils Den ladies are as pictured on the website. Some are glamour shots but little real photoshopping. I have found it is better to do a double incall first, and if there is chemistry book one solo to your room on a later day. Nothing wrong with a first time outcall though as they are all pretty skilled.

I believe DD opens at 1 pm you can always go in early, confirm who is available that day, and schedule something either in / out for later. They will ask you have any specific instructions (don't be shy) and if you want the girls in costume. They will ask for a deposit just give them 1,000 baht pay the rest later.

The DD ladies work well together but IMO if you want the best shot at passionate girl / girl specifically mention it, then pick a lady and say her choice to pick her partner.

SL.

[VishudJb]

If the pills are of the normal prescription variety in the original pharma packaging and in personal use quantities you should be fine.

Devils Den ladies are as pictured on the website. Some are glamour shots but little real photoshopping. I have found it is better to do a double incall first, and if there is chemistry book one solo to your room on a later day. Nothing wrong with a first time outcall though as they are all pretty skilled.

I believe DD opens at 1 pm you can always go in early, confirm who is available that day, and schedule something either in / out for later. They will ask you have any specific instructions (don't be shy) and if you want the girls in costume. They will ask for a deposit just give them 1,000 baht pay the rest later.

The DD ladies work well together but IMO if you want the best shot at passionate girl / girl specifically mention it, then pick a lady and say her choice to pick her partner.

SL.Generally you will find ladies as per picture not like escorts were most of time lady will be different.

[GermanShepherd]

Was eyeing on a very hot chick Angie on DD website for a very long time. Lately saw Her pic is taken off from the site.

Are there many more choices apart from web gallery? Where has the cute Angie disappeared?

[GermanShepherd]

Thanks a ton guys for all your inputs.

Few days left to arrive LOSP (land of smiling pussies).

With so many choices and places to cover up think the time will be too little to explore all, but then too will try to make to best and update you all.

Cheers Fellas. Pattaya here I come.

[StudBucket]

I think Natty has hit the nail pretty much on the head. Top quality girls are in Bangkok, Jakarta, then Manila last in my opinion. Manila has really gone downhill in terms of places to go to so I don't see as many top quality girls. Havana Cafe sucks. Leaves you really with Burgos street. Angeles City can turn out some good girls like the top shelf girls in some of the better gogos or at High Society Disco. I have had more top quality girls there than Manila and the vast number of girls over Manila gives you more opportunities. Just got back from Pattaya (after AC and Manila), and gorgeous girls can be found at the top Gogo bars and some gems are to be found at Insomnia and I-Bar (just below Insomnia). I have been to many cities all over Asia. Phnom Penh does have some nice girls but the quality of the girls is a notch down over the rest. The Khmer girls can be very GFE, friendly, and well priced so its worth a visit. Of course, keep in mind AC, Pattaya, and Phnom Penh are so much less expensive than Bangkok, Jakarta or Manila for our hobby.


The triumvirate as far as I am concerned is Bangkok, Manila, & Jakarta. I easily find the top quality girls I am looking for in these 3 major cities, but it does come at high price. If you are a budget hunter, I think you will find that prices vary widely from really cheap to very expensive girls depending on the venue and the girls you choose to see. There are always some very pretty diamonds waiting to be discovered in the less expensive bordellos and bars.

In the resort town category, there is Pattaya and AC. If you like Pattaya, you will like AC. I am not saying you will like AC more than Pat, that is an unknown - many guys like it more and many guys like it less; what I am saying is I think you will like it. Filipinas are known for their GFE and they speak English. Prices are slightly cheaper in AC as compared to Pattaya for similar quality. You should also give Subic (Barrio Barreto) a look see while you are visiting AC. The Subic nightlife scene is smaller than AC's nightlife, but the girls are super friendly and this is probably the cheapest destination you can find with reasonable accessibility in all of SE Asia. The good news is you can combine an AC / Subic excursion into one trip by spending 4 or 5 days in each town to see if you like it. I think you will.

Lastly Phnom Penh is another Asian city I think you might want to check out at least one time while you are visiting Thailand. Khmer girls are petite and very friendly and prices are generally way cheaper than in Pattaya.

Stay Thirsty,

NB

[StudBucket]

Thanks for the price report and layout of the venues. I would agree with your pricing although I have never paid more than 3 k for the hottest girls in Insomnia and that was Long Time, so I am not sure how you state the range there is up to 5 k baht short time. Otherwise, pricing spot on.


Beach Road: this is where you will find your best deals 700 to 1000 short time. (some even as low as 500) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but most women are in their late 20's to early 30's. There are however some younger (18 and up) girls sprinkled in, there and also some real diamonds to be found on beach road as well. The girls start at the beginning of walking street and go all the way down to Soi 6 (maybe even further, I've never gone past that point). A few available during the day but mostly they start to gather around 7: pm and start leaving by 2: am. The best looking girls in my opinion stand from Mike mall down to walking street.

Soi 11/ Soi Honey MPs: the best in my opinion are the two at the corner of Soi 11 and Soi Buakhao. Again beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it fluctuates but these two always seem to have some hotties available. The MPs on this street will have girls available 24/7 it fluctuates but the two at the far end will often have a dozen or more girls available as late as 3,4,5,or 6 am, again it fluctuates but often have some super hotties available at that hour of the morning as well. Pricing is 1000 short time in house and 300 for takeout. I always take out. Some of the MPs here have decent rooms and decent beds but many just have a row of mats laying on the floor with curtains separating them. Have had an occasional Prima Donna ask for 1500 for herself.

Soi Diana and Soi 7 & 8 beer gardens: can find some decent talent in many of them, standard price is 1000 short time for the girl and between 300 to 400 bar fine. The beer gardens on Sois 7 & 8 all generally want 400 bar fine.

Soi 6: Always a fun time, here you will find some OK looking women and some really hot looking women. The talent in my opinion always seems to fluctuate. That is on one trip I find many hotties to be working at one or two particular bars and then on another trip it seems like different bars have what I consider to be the hotties. It is best to just walk up and down Soi 6 until you see the one you want and then go over to her bar. Bar fine is generally 300 to 350 in some bars and the girls all go for 1000 short time in house. You can also take the girls out for an increased price. I have always done the girls in house as I find the rooms to be decent, clean, AC and good beds.

Walking Street Freelancers: most stand in groups of two or more along the side of the street. You will know they are freelancers because most people on walking street are doing just that walking and these girls will be standing along the side of the street. Some nice looking girls here but in my opinion nothing better than you can find on beach road. Most will want 1500 short time.

Gogo bars: here you will find some OK looking girls to some really hot looking girls. Here you will also find some of the most expensive girls. It fluctuates depending upon the bar and in some depending upon the time of night. But generally plan on paying 1000 bar fine. The girls can be negotiated but generally plan on paying 2000 short time for the girl. Have had a few on LK metro want 2500 for short time. Again it can fluctuate but plan on paying around 3000 to get the girl out the door for short time and this does not include the drinks you buy for yourself and her.

Discos: Insomnia, 808, and Marine disco: In my opinion the best and hottest girls available in Pattaya are found in the discos. Again in my opinion the best is Insomnia, Here you will find some OK looking girls to some super super hotties. Short time prices can be anywhere from 1000 to as much as 5000. Price will depend upon two things how attractive the girl is and how attractive you are to the girl. The super hotties can be very stand offish and difficult to approach they will not send signals out to you (unless of course your Brad Pitt). I personally always go for what I consider to be the hottest girls in whatever venue I am in and the discos are no exception. I take a Kamikaze approach and put on my friendliest face give my best smile and my sweetest voice and approach the table of the super hottie and introduce myself and ask her name. They are almost always cold fish give the 1000 yard stare and not very enthusiastic. I smile pay them some complements ask a little about themselves pretend I am interested and within five to ten minutes of me approaching their table I ask them if they want to go with me. I have had about a 70% to 80% success rate getting what I consider to be the super hottie to go with me. Socially I'm more of a Potsy than a Fonzi and the ideal of spending the evening drinking at her table wondering if she will go with me at the end of the night is not very much fun for me. I would much rather cut right to the chase. I have been paying 2000 on average for short time on occasion in the past I have paid as much as 3000 for a super hottie that I just had to have and on occasion have been able to get a super hottie for 1000 (usually in the wee hours of the morning when the guy she really wanted went with someone else the number of likely customers is dwindling and figuring something is better than nothing she agrees). I have had many super hotties tell me if they really like a guy they will go for as little as 1000 and if they don't like the guy will ask for as much as 5000 and if hes willing to pay that then they will go with him. The discos don't really get going until midnight or 1: am and will go until the sun comes up. Many of the Soi 6 girls like to go to 808 disco after their bar closes at 1: am and can be picked up there for 1000 short time.

(A word or two about the super hot prima donnas with attitude at the discos. I have found that these unsociable prima donnas once in the bed room and in the bed enjoy a good stick man and a good hard pounding. If your a good stick man (practice makes perfect) these stuck up to good to talk to you in the disco girls always respond accordingly and once in the bed and the action starts these stuck on themselves prima donnas really like the services of a good stick man and really like getting a good hard pounding. I have found this to be the case overwhelmingly with the supper hotties with attitude in the discos of Pattaya and the world over).

After work Gogo girls: I have also had a lot of luck picking up walking street and LK metro gogo girls late at night after their bar closes. Wait at the end of walking street or LK metro after the gogos close and watch the stream of girls leaving. Many are quite friendly and easy to pick up because they want to make some money and many will do short time for 1000.

Long time is also available at almost every venue but at an increased rate.

Chris.

[Socker]

Thanks for the price report and layout of the venues. I would agree with your pricing although I have never paid more than 3 k for the hottest girls in Insomnia and that was Long Time, so I am not sure how you state the range there is up to 5 k baht short time. Otherwise, pricing spot on.I agree a stellar write up by CL w / a lot of great info on where, how much and quality levels. He is a top pro monger.

As for the 5000 b pricing I think he is spot on because if the good looking women will try for for 3000 be than the super fine will try for higher and probably get it.

His LK Metro strategy after the bars close is simple and invaluable.

I appreciate the in depth information he put forth here. Very straight forward and concise.

[Haven123]

Thanks for the price report and layout of the venues. I would agree with your pricing although I have never paid more than 3 k for the hottest girls in Insomnia and that was Long Time, so I am not sure how you state the range there is up to 5 k baht short time. Otherwise, pricing spot on.I agree. The 5 K baht for LT or 3000 for ST makes no sense. Unless Chris is sooooo looonnggg that the girl thinks she could be out of comission for a whole week after him. And so needs to be compensated accordingly. Kinda of the opposite effect of Mr. ENT? 😜.

[Wolvenvacht]

Is it safe to carry some pills or enhancement intakes, or its risky affair at airport?


If the pills are of the normal prescription variety in the original pharma packaging and in personal use quantities you should be fine.You better check the Thai customs website at http://en.customs.go.th/content.php?ini_content=customs_offences&lang=en&left_menu=menu_customs_offences as it is a bit more complicated than just "carry a prescription". Some medication can be prohibited or restricted even with a prescription (e.g. those containing narcotic substances). In case of doubt check with the local Thai Embassy or Consulate.


Beach road hookers, are they safe and hygienic, as few suggested not to go for them because some might have threatening diseases while compared to safe play chicks at gogo bars.Thai girls are generally clean and hygienic and it doesn't matter if they ply their trade at Beach Road or in an expensive agogo club. Never assume that girls in gogo bars are "safe play". Practicing safe sex is always your better option wherever you pick up your girl.


Would love to have at least a Russian or Uzbek hottie as recommendations of getting one at the right price and good service..Unfortunately it seems "Russian / Uzbek", "right price" and "good service" is a matter of "choose two out of three only". Most reports indicate that these ladies are either high price and / or bad service (if any service at all).


Are Thai chicks into threesome and good action with each other?Generally no, although some establishments have made it into their speciality, such as Eden Club in Bangkok.

[Java Man]

I went to their party this past Monday evening. They had a decent crowd, more ladies present than my previous visit. They also had a nice buffet that evening. They ladies are much the same as they were at the previous location: they're a little older, but look decent for their age. Here's the new deal with Carre Blanc: 1st LD, and she drops her panties. 2nd LD and bra comes off. 3rd LD and they get nekked. LD is 130bht, IIRC. Like the old place, as soon as you walk in, whoever is on queue latches on to you.

I settled in at the bar, got my 1's beer. Bought my 1st LD, and got some food. Pat, my favorite Carre Blanc girl became available, and I got her a LD too. Pretty soon, a 3rd lady joined in She earned a LD after she started licking my nipple. The LD were flying, clothes were coming off, (theirs and mine.) Then they switched to tequila shots. I had Pat sitting at the bar facing me, spread eagled, Occasionally, the 3rd lady would lick Pat's puss, (apparently they're close.).

At one point I had 1 lady on each nipple and the third one taking care of junior. Each lady took turns servicing Junior. This they did on their own, no prompting from me. So, yes I was sexually assaulted. :D Plenty of witnesses to this too, and none came to my aid. Yeah, I'll be going back for more. BTW, Pat was the best one with junior.

It all came to a crashing end, when the many Tequila shots took their toll. 2nd lady bailed to the toilet. Pat got hammered. Only the 3rd lady was OK.

Warning: Then the cashier REALLY tried to REAM me. During my previous trips I've visited Carre Blanc, and never had a problem with the bar tab. This time they overcharged me 470bht. :mad: It was brought to their attention and corrected. In spite of that, I'll be returning to Carre Blanc. I need to play with Pat some more.

[Java Man]

This place is out in the middle of Fa-King nowhere. And I thought The Telephone bar was far. It's a converted Spanish colonial mansion. Its almost Due east of Underwater World Pattaya. In the outskirts of Jomtiem, if not in it. I got there around 6p. This is mainly an expat bar. However, when I got there, there were two other young farange drinking. They musta been staying nearby. They quickly left after I got there. There were about 9 ladies present, late twenties and up. Decent bodies for their age, IMHO.

LD is 120Bht. My beer was 65bht, IIRC. The bar is well stocked. The place also has a Jacuzzi available and a pool table.

What lured me here, was a post in a competing forum that mentioned a very petite lady working here. Nok4, (there are 4 Nok's working here,) is 4.5 ft or 1.37 meters tall, and 34 yrs old. Not a midget, just very short, proportioned to her height. Luckily, she was there. I thought she was cute. Her roommate, Nok 3 was also cute and slightly younger, with big tits. (I may return to get to know her better.).

I took Nok4 to ST room, on the premises (350Bht for the hour,) her contribution was 1000Bht. The room had hot water and AC. About the 30-40 min mark she started worrying about the time limit. I told her we had plenty of time and I'd pay extra of we went over the time. We did the usual calisthenics. It was fun playing with such a little woman, but nothing spectacular. I got her contact info, as she was interested in coming to my hotel. BTW, Rioja opens at 11a or 12p, and closes at 9p, but most of the ladies were gone by 8p.

Motocy charged me 60Bht starting from Tukcom area. They had to call a motocy for my return trip, he wanted 100Bht to go to another club near by: Camel Toe. (Review to follow.)
The Motocy didn't know about Rioja nor Camel Toe. I had to show them the location on Google map

Google "Rioja Pattaya" for location info.

[Java Man]

This is another bar that's far out, but not in the middle of nowhere. It's on Soi 17, south of Third Road. Same Soi that Montana Bar is on, (If you're familiar with that Bar,) but here its called Soi KhoPai 10. Google search "Camel Toe Pattaya. " The second search results has pics of the ladies uniform. However, most were wearing normal street clothes, not a camel toe in sight. Not what the search result showed. I was disappointed. Also none of the ladies on that website were present.

It's behind a gate. I thought it was closed when I arrived at 8:15p, (they close at 9p.) It's bigger on the inside than how it looks from the outside. There was a decent crowd in the place. Since I had just partaken at Rioja, I was not looking for a second round. My beer was 80Bht, LD was 130Bht or 120Bht. Like many of the Gentlemen's bars, the ladies are late twenties and up, no stunners unfortunately. But that can always change. They don't have on premise rooms, one has to walk 2 min to nearby room I was told. I don't remember the cost for the room, maybe 300Bht, but ladies time was 1000Bht. Not sure if a return visit is warranted. Pic purloined from the net.

[Banana Boi]

Thank you so much for the G club reviews, Java. Also to inform me of a new club I never heard of, Camel Toe. Out of Rioja, Care Blanc, and Camel Toe, which had the better girls?

Hopefully prettier than La Poste. If you've been to Club 007, Pirates. Excite, M Club, Kinnaree, how does the talent compare?

[Java Man]

Thank you so much for the G club reviews, Java. Also to inform me of a new club I never heard of, Camel Toe. Out of Rioja, Care Blanc, and Camel Toe, which had the better girls? Hopefully prettier than La Poste. If you've been to Club 007, Pirates. Excite, M Club, Kinnaree, how does the talent compare?IMHO, Rioja ladies slightly better looking than Camel Toe and Carre Blanc. Kinnaree probably has the best line up. I also like the lineup at 007, Club 4, Excite and the new Fairy club. I have not visited M Club on this trip. M Club has a new lineup based on their Facebook page. I have yet to visit Montana club and Le Poste aka Telephone Bar 2 as well as the original Telephone Bar. Caveat: Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder.

[Phuquer]

Is it possible? I just checked out a Pattaya Walking Street webcam (http://www.pattayastreetcams.com/walking-street-1/) at around 3:45 AM Pattaya time and I see that the street is quite lively still. I thought things died down after 2 AM. Just looking at the webcam I can see there are plenty of nice looking girls at that time of the night. I'm getting the urge to head down to Pattaya, even though I usually avoid the place.

[Mr Enternational]

Is it possible? I just checked out a Pattaya Walking Street webcam (http://www.pattayastreetcams.com/walking-street-1/) at around 3:45 AM Pattaya time and I see that the street is quite lively still. I thought things died down after 2 AM. A lot of places close and the street opens back up for traffic at 3 or 3:30. That is why it looks lively. It is like when a movie or sporting event lets out. Nobody is standing around. They are either grabbing something to eat from a food cart, walking to the next club that is open (iBar or Flexx) or going home.

[Phuquer]

Awesome stuff. It's 5:15 there right now and I still see a ton of girls walking by that I would not hesitate to pick up. I think I might add Pattaya to my itinerary in February.


A lot of places close and the street opens back up for traffic at 3 or 3:30. That is why it looks lively. It is like when a movie or sporting event lets out. Nobody is standing around. They are either grabbing something to eat from a food cart, walking to the next club that is open (iBar or Flexx) or going home.

[Haven123]

Awesome stuff. It's 5:15 there right now and I still see a ton of girls walking by that I would not hesitate to pick up. I think I might add Pattaya to my itinerary in February.You can find decent ones at Insomnia past 6 am! And then if you are desperate there may be stragglers even after 7 am.

[Banana Boi]

What time is iBar / Insomnia close? I didn't know it was still open at 6 or 7 am.

[Haven123]

What time is iBar / Insomnia close? I didn't know it was still open at 6 or 7 am.7 am. And many sit and eat at their Restaurant below (NY diner) before they leave. It will be early morning sunrise and water view from the Restaurant at that time!

[Explorer8939]

According to Yahoo News Pattaya, Phuket and Bangkok are among the 20 most visited cities on the Planet. I'm not surprised as the Chinese have literally invaded Pattaya in herds and droves these days despite the recent bombings and the Military coup. I've never seen Walking Street so crowded and its low season. I think there are more tourist buses and motor coaches here per capita than any other place in the world. They are clogging every street and Soi in the city.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/these-are-the-20-most-visited-1492319279325238/photo-19-pattaya-1471002852526.htmlI am planning to take a Chinese tour of Thailand which will pass through Pattaya so I will be among those masses of tourists.

[Eric Swiss]

Soi 11/ Soi Honey MPs: the best in my opinion are the two at the corner of Soi 11 and Soi Buakhao. Again beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it fluctuates but these two always seem to have some hotties available. The MPs on this street will have girls available 24/7 it fluctuates but the two at the far end will often have a dozen or more girls available as late as 3,4,5,or 6 am, again it fluctuates but often have some super hotties available at that hour of the morning as well. Pricing is 1000 short time in house and 300 for takeout. I always take out. Some of the MPs here have decent rooms and decent beds but many just have a row of mats laying on the floor with curtains separating them. Have had an occasional Prima Donna ask for 1500 for herself.
Chris.Thank you for the wide-ranging report, Chris.

If it's 11 am and someone wants to get laid in Pattaya, what is there to do? Turning to your report, I went to a Soi Honey Massage Parlor. I'd never been there before, but I confirm the best girls are in the first two from Soi Buakhao. The first one is called Paradise Massage, and that's where I went. I picked a girl named Niko. Slightly taller than average but still short enough for my taste, skin relatively light, a bright smile, small but firm tits, pretty thin, and a great attitude. She asked 200 for massage and 1000 for extras up to and including full service. I paid her 1200 plus 100 baht tip because she was really good.

We started by pretending she would give me a proper massage with me lying face down on the bed, but it quickly degenerated into her teasing my scrotum and my perineum. When she kissed my neck it sent shivers down my spine. After the flip, I got a competent hand job and an excellent BBBJ. She could have made me come right there and then, and she knew it, but she wanted the full-service price, so she put a condom on.

She did a cowgirl and tried the old trick of making me come fast by jumping up and down my pole like the energizer bunny, but I took control of the situation and flipped her through a few positions, which she seemed to enjoy. As I was getting to the doggystyle, she stuck a finger up my arse and that was it I just shot my load. Not my longest performance, but sometimes short sessions don't leave you with a lasting afterglow. This one was so satisfying at every stage that it did.

I may take my "lunch break" in that area more often in the future.

Only downside is, as Chris said, the rooms are shitty. In the future I'll do some research into short-time hotels. On Walking Street I always use Oasis on Soi Happy because it's classy, but I'll have to find another address near Soi Happy / Soi LK Metro. Can't be that difficult.

[Java Man]

Las Vegas 3 on Soi 13/1 is closed. This gogo was a Naughty afternoon place, with the ladies going pantyless. Much fun was had there. At the start of the Soi is Las Vegas 2. I had hoped the naughty ladies from 3 had relocated here, but alas it was not meant to be. I got me a 110 Bht SML, and parked near the AC. There were 6 ladies present. The one that latched on to me was way over the expiration date and was pantyless, (of course.) There was a nekkid dancer on stage as well. None of the 6 dancers appealed to me. However, there was one Dude who was having the time of his life: he was muff diving one lady, finished with her and started on another. :eek: I half way drank my SML and got the hell out of there.

Next stop was The Telephone Bar, one of my favorite places in Pattaya. I had visited on my previous trips. Surprise! Totally new Lineup. All my favorites were gone. Even the bartender and cashier were new.

SML are 110 Bht, LD is 150 Bht. They don't wear panties here. Buy a LD, and the tube dress comes off. There were 9 ladies present and me.

They were a little standoffish as I had passed on the lady that was on queue. That all changed when I bought a LD for the gal on my right. This chick is no waif. She was firm and a hard body. Not your Typical Thai bar girl. I had only intended to check out the Telephone Bar before I entered the place, and wasn't in a BF mood upon my reception. :( But Big and Sexy started to change my mind.

As I had done before on previous trips, I bought another Lady a LD, and kept her til she finished it, and then picked another Lady, while also keeping Big and Sexy at my side with her hands down my shorts. :)

Finally it was time to go to the ST room. Big and Sexy did NOT disappoint. She gave as good as she got. She's as kinky and twisted as Me. No holes barred, rimming, FaceFukin, DT, total PSE. She could take a pounding too. This chick like to Fucgk! Oh My Buddha!! She was, dare I say it: Brazilian Like! :D

I've seen her again, and it was just as good the Second time.

The Telephone bar is not for everyone. I hear the usual complaints, that the ladies there are not the youngest, nor prettiest. That the bar is Dark for a reason. But I've had some great times there. The Telephone Bar is to me, what Las Vegas 2 is to that Muff Diving MoFo. BTW, Big and Sexy is 37 yrs old, maybe 140 Lbs. But Man, we clicked and she got Mad Skills. To be repeated.
Telephone Bar opens at 9a and closes at 10p. Go to it's Sister bar, Le Poste on Soi Lengkee. They have a flyer for the Telephone bar with map and a coupon for a first free drink.

[Java Man]

Passion is located in Jomtien, at the end of a Soi way off the main road, Thappraya Rd. It's on the same Soi as Pacific Jomtiem Hotel, (Google map it.) It's in a walled in compound. There were 11 ladies present when I visited. It opens at 1p, but it's best to get there about 2:30p, when all the ladies have arrived. Thursday is bikini day. (They have small pool.) Friday and Sunday they have a free BBQ. Saturday is Lingerie Day, but the Ladies are still covered up too much. LD drinks are 125Bht, (it's a small cocktail.) BF is 400Bht, which is paid before to the lady prior to going to the room. The ladies fee is 1000Bht. The bar is well stocked, SML was 110Bht. There were some doable ladies present. It's a mixed bunch, with young and old, but no 19yr old. Some could work at Kinnaree. Reason I went: an ex-M Club, Ex-Excite Club babe now works there. They close at 9 p so as not to disturb the upscale residential neighborhood its in. They'll have to call or you'll have to call a moto taxi to come get you, (100Bht fare.) It's sorta a PIA, to get there and back.

http://passionpattaya.com/

I did not see the ladies on the website.

https://web.facebook.com/passionpattaya/?_rdr

Their Facebook page got them in trouble with the Boys in Brown not too long ago. Which resulted in a temporary closure. All the offensive post have been removed.

[Princearain]

Java man, agree. Telephone bar is one of my favourites as well. Last trip I ended making a daily visit to both TB and DD. Only issue is explaining it to the Moto taxi guys as it is a bit away from usual places of action. I am planning to visit back patta early Sep and telephone bar top of list.

[Danubius]

There were some questions in the Pattaya Hotel section on the Jomtien scene, especially the Jomtien Complex. The Jomtien Complex is a collection of gay bars, if that is not your thing, it is not worth a visit. Otherwise there is a single run down gogo bar across the VT7 building with very little talent. Also there are some beer bars along Thappraya Rd. With mostly older girls. You can also find beer bars at the Rompho market, and there is also a gogo there, but there, again talent is limited. I often have the feeling that these bars function as "retirement homes" for girls who have seen better days. Action can be had at the massage places in Jomtien Soi 6 and there you can find the occasional gem in the rough!

All in all Jomtien is a pretty laid back place with a good vibe, little action and nice beach by Pattaya standards and some of the best restaurants in town. I do prefer staying in one of the big condo buildings like VT2, VT5 or VT7, especially if I am in town for longer periods of time, as it is a nice option giving you more of the feeling of a beach holiday with WS 10 minutes away by baht bus.

[Gin And Tonic]

This place is out in the middle of Fa-King nowhere. And I thought The Telephone bar was far. It's a converted Spanish colonial mansion. Its almost Due east of Underwater World Pattaya. In the outskirts of Jomtiem, if not in it. I got there around 6p. This is mainly an expat bar. However, when I got there, there were two other young farange drinking. They musta been staying nearby. They quickly left after I got there. There were about 9 ladies present, late twenties and up. Decent bodies for their age, IMHO.

LD is 120Bht. My beer was 65bht, IIRC. The bar is well stocked. The place also has a Jacuzzi available and a pool table.

What lured me here, was a post in a competing forum that mentioned a very petite lady working here. Nok4, (there are 4 Nok's working here,) is 4.5 ft or 1.37 meters tall, and 34 yrs old. Not a midget, just very short, proportioned to her height. Luckily, she was there. I thought she was cute. Her roommate, Nok 3 was also cute and slightly younger, with big tits. (I may return to get to know her better.).

I took Nok4 to ST room, on the premises (350Bht for the hour,) her contribution was 1000Bht. The room had hot water and AC. About the 30-40 min mark she started worrying about the time limit. I told her we had plenty of time and I'd pay extra of we went over the time. We did the usual calisthenics. It was fun playing with such a little woman, but nothing spectacular. I got her contact info, as she was interested in coming to my hotel. BTW, Rioja opens at 11a or 12p, and closes at 9p, but most of the ladies were gone by 8p.

Motocy charged me 60Bht starting from Tukcom area. They had to call a motocy for my return trip, he wanted 100Bht to go to another club near by: Camel Toe. (Review to follow.)
The Motocy didn't know about Rioja nor Camel Toe. I had to show them the location on Google map

Google "Rioja Pattaya" for location info.Thanks, I love spinners. Hopefully she will be there when I return. By the way, it is southwest of Underwater World.

[Banana Boi]

Hit 9 gogo clubs on Walking Street last night between 8:30 pm to 1:30 am. In order of best lineup, only the first 2 were amazing.

Baccara.
Sensations.

Sapphire.
Glass House
Happy (has been poor 3 visits in past week).
Infinity
Electric Blue
Peppermint.

Iron. In a class a crap all on its own. Who wants to see a man pretending to be a ladyboy swing on the rings?

Clubs were visited in this order: Happy, Baccara, Sensations, Peppermint, Infinity, Iron, Electric Blue, Glass House, Sapphire. This is important since a club may have a large number of girls barfined at midnight.

We ordered the same drinks in every club. The cheapest was Happy at 190. the most expensive was Iron at 325.

[Banana Boi]

Visited Kinnaree again. Vastly improved from last month when I found the lineup to be very subpar for their standards. About 4-5 new girls started this week. Also, little Goi has returned. The old girls are griping there are way too many girls now, which there are for such a small place. Not many guys and no room wait. Ladydrinks are reasonable. 6 tequilas for 550 or 125 each. Definitely worth visiting again soon.

[Banana Boi]

Don't think most guys on here go to The Pier on Walking Street, located beside the Russian gogo club, Galaxy. I am making this post since The Pier has recently added hostess girls to their staff. There are about 8 of them 2 of which stood out to me. It's 200 per ladydrink. The one I spoke with is an ex gogo girl. Not sure if there is any barfine or the cost to take a girl home sinced I was already with 4 girls.

[DecrepitInsane]

Hi everyone,

I just joined the forum. I have been reading up on the Pattaya scene for a few days, and found some great information and advice. I have been to Pattaya over 25 times over the last 10 years. Was there in May this year and hoping to go over in late November, as well.

I was a regular at Whats Up, Peppermint, Hot Tuna, Iron Club etc but moved to the beer bars at Jomtien on my last visit. Met a cute lady and had a great time.

I have been alone on all my visits, and would like to know if I could meet up with someone on my next visit in November?

[ManOfMystery]

I've been to Pattaya twice before, in February of this year and last. Only did a little walking around so far, but so few people around compared to the high season. I'll be interested to see how walking street is this time of year. I'm going to try to be more fiscally responsible and keep away from the top of the line agogos. It would be great if prices come down a bit during low season but I'm not expecting it. That being said there is one girl I remember from Sensations I want to see and will take her out if she's still working.

I'll give The Pier a look tonight, as per recommendation from previous poster.

[Ricky81]

I think it's fine to carry that kind of pills if it is a medical prescription, carry the prescription with you, to show in case if they ask, I carried some prescribed medicine, not an issue, about Russian girls beware dude, they will force you to buy lady drink, I don't think it's good idea to visit Russian bars, unless you are super rich.


Thank you guys for all your inputs.

Few more queries.

Is it safe to carry some pills or enhancement intakes, or its risky affair at airport?

Beach road hookers, are they safe and hygienic, as few suggested not to go for them because some might have threatening diseases while compared to safe play chicks at gogo bars.

Would love to have at least a Russian or Uzbek hottie as recommendations of getting one at the right price and good service.

Have heard a lot about Devils Den, and other soapies what's the best time to visit? Is it better to take DD chick for outcall or incall. Have seen the gallery are they really that beautiful or just photoshop.

Are Thai chicks into threesome and good action with each other?

Temptation and excitement is building up for coming to LOS.

[Banana Boi]

I'll give The Pier a look tonight, as per recommendation from previous poster.I wasn't recommending. I was just posting new information that hasn't been posted before, which is what I try to do. Was just pointing it out. I wouldn't be going to The Pier without a girl.

Something else to look forward to is the new Midnight Pattaya disco being built above Blue Sky III (across from Sensations). Says opening 2016/2017.

also don't believe anyone has mentioned the renos at Sapphire. imo they are a huge improvement. Makes the club feel much roomier.

[Haven123]

.... I wouldn't be going to The Pier without a girl.

. C'mon.! Stop being such a pussy! You mean you wouldn't be going to The Pier without at least 4 girls in tow!

Or, did you forget about that. So soon? 😜.

[Haven123]

I don't think it's good idea to visit Russian bars, unless you are super rich.Or Banana Boi! He is truly amazing! I think we need to name his entourage The Banana Babes!

[Adrena]

What do all you mongers do during the day?

I've been to Pattaya twice and loved the experience. However, my only complaint is, what can I do during the day?

I only need 6 hours of sleep. I go to bed around 1 am and wake up at 7 am year-round. That creates a problem in Pattaya because their is nothing to do after breakfast.

I've hung out in a Starbucks, done the boat tours, and even tried my hand at shopping. I basically have a six hour time gap which desperately needs filled. Massage parlors can fill one hour, what about the rest of the time?

Expert mongers, help me out!

Side note, I'll be returning in Jan-Feb if anybody wants to meet up for a beer.

[ManOfMystery]

At Banana Boi, you're correct, it was a poor choice of wording on my part to say you recommended The Pier.

I ended up not going in there, I actually had forgotten about the place until later in the night and by then I was caught up in other things. Started last night at Windmill. Large crowd, lots of girls, but low on talent. I wished for one moment that I could have taken a photo. They had two naked girls, one sitting down, the other on her hands and knees in doggystyle position in front of her. The doggystyle girl was holding her head in her hands with a look of absolute boredom, meanwhile some guy was fondling her tit with absolute joy. Funny image. Popped into wildcats, I usually go for the free shot with a beer. Only one girl caught my eye, and if my target wasn't at Sensations, then I would have considered coming back for her. Next was Electric Blue. Nothing too special, I remembered better looking girls when I　was there in February. Then it was Sensations to see if the girl I hoped to see was still working there. I didn't get to bar fine her on my last trip. The night I had met her, the guy that she said was the owner popped in, he grabbed a group of the girls to join him and she was among the group and she said she couldn't leave. So last night, I go in and grab a seat. As I am scanning the stage, I hear someone calling my name and sure enough it was her. It was a pleasant surprise to hear that she not only remembered me even though we never banged, but she remembered my name. After her stage time was up, she came over and we shared a couple drinks before heading to the hotel. Her body was as great as I imagined and she was as wet as could be. Great first evening back in Pattaya. This afternoon I took up with a little 19 yr old on Soi 6. Besides stepping out for dinner, not sure what I will be up to for tonight.

[Member #4807]

Best bet is to find a hotel with a nice pool and enjoy it!


What do all you mongers do during the day?

I've been to Pattaya twice and loved the experience. However, my only complaint is, what can I do during the day?

I only need 6 hours of sleep. I go to bed around 1 am and wake up at 7 am year-round. That creates a problem in Pattaya because their is nothing to do after breakfast.

I've hung out in a Starbucks, done the boat tours, and even tried my hand at shopping. I basically have a six hour time gap which desperately needs filled. Massage parlors can fill one hour, what about the rest of the time?

Expert mongers, help me out!

Side note, I'll be returning in Jan-Feb if anybody wants to meet up for a beer.

[Blanquiceleste]

What do all you mongers do during the day?

I've been to Pattaya twice and loved the experience. However, my only complaint is, what can I do during the day?

I only need 6 hours of sleep. I go to bed around 1 am and wake up at 7 am year-round. That creates a problem in Pattaya because their is nothing to do after breakfast.

I've hung out in a Starbucks, done the boat tours, and even tried my hand at shopping. I basically have a six hour time gap which desperately needs filled. Massage parlors can fill one hour, what about the rest of the time?

Expert mongers, help me out!

Side note, I'll be returning in Jan-Feb if anybody wants to meet up for a beer.Interesting question. A simple solution could be to adjust your body clock. Go to sleep by 5 am or later and wake up after noon. The way you will be able to maximize the potential Pattaya has to offer. Here is how in 10 easy steps:

1. Assume you wake up by noon and shit shower shave. Catch a bite if you are hungry, but keep it light.

2. Get to Soi 6 by 2 pm and you will have several options to pick from. I usually hang out for at least 2-3 hours there which covers a couple of drinks and good ST session. I also end up having a bit of late lunch.

3. By 5-6 pm I head back to my hotel and catch a nap for an hour or two.

4. By 8 pm latest I am on the street again, usually looking to get a massage. Sometimes a clean one sometimes a bit more than just a massage. This usually puts me in the 10 pm zone.

5. I get back to hotel and start evaluating my options for the night ahead. Online social media picks, the countless beer bars in Pattaya with loads of cuties, WS disco, GoGo bars, etc.

6. No matter where I pick from, I make sure it is a LT. The whole exercise of method selection, date identification, negotiation and closure takes roughly 2-3 hours. YMMV.

7. With my date for the night I head to one of the 4 or 5 discos (Insomnia, Pier, Marine, 808, Mixx. Insomnia is my favorite) and party for a couple of hours.

8. Back in the hotel by 4 am or thereabouts. Usually get a bit to eat on the way back. The street food is delicious. Once in the room bang the daylights out of the girl, It is usually dawn by the time I am finished.

9. Cuddle up and sleep. Wake up by noon, get the morning wood serviced and let her go with a nice "tip".

10. Repeat from Point #1.

[Sunlover2]

What do all you mongers do during the day?Devils Den is your best daytime activity opens at 1 pm. Otherwise:

I will go for a nice walk after breakfast before it gets too hot. Usually the entire Beach Road crescent walkway down and back. Go back to the room, shower and surf the net. Go for a massage, grab some lunch, shopping / run errands / exchange money. Then spend some time at the hotel pool (mandatory my hotel has a pool) until about 5 pm. A nap before I start the evening, organize my thoughts, and I am good to go.

If you are frisky check the BR scene for some potential afternoon delight. Or take the baht bus over to Jomtien for a change of scenery. If it is rainy or uber hot you can always take in a movie.

Did I mention Devils Den? 555.

SL.

[Adrena]

Thanks to Blanquiceleste and the others who shared a few ideas.

I've tried adjusting my body clock. It seems I don't stay in country long enough for it to happen. I already live in the same time zone as Pattaya, so it makes flipping my times more difficult. If I was flying from Canada, it'd be much easier. I'd just sleep from 1 pm to 7 pm.

Blanquiceleste, your average day sounds pretty much like mine. The only exceptions are number seven and the beginning of number one.

I absolutely hate packed night clubs. Loud music and crowds of people always ruin my night.

Your second number is spot on. I love Soi 6! Truthfully, my first trip, I went there once and didn't stop at a single bar. I simply didn't understand the street's dynamic.

My biggest problem is really from 8 am To 12 pm Everything is closed at that time. After 12, I can be one of those early bird customers at Hooters or Soi 6. Another poster mentioned pools. I think I'll stay at a hotel with one next time; good idea.

I posted a few reports about 100 pages ago. I'll add to them later today.

[Freezone]

I checked the map for Kinnaree Club and seems to be middle of nowhere.

Can you get there by taking the baht bus?

Or is it only by mototaxi.

I usually stay around the LK Metro / Soi Bukhow area so how are the various ways to get there.

Also if need to take mototaxi, then what's the going rate and will they know location if I told them Kinnaree?

Thanks.

[Banana Boi]

Many drivers won't know Kinnaree. Since I know the location I just tell them Pratumnak Hill and Soi 5. On soi 5 at the alley to Kinnaree there is a little Kinnaree sign on a pole. Kinnaree is closer to soi 5 than soi 4. Look for all the motorbikes out front.

From LK Metro I'm guessing motorbike will cost 60-80 baht, taxi 200-250. The return trip is more defined for taxi. Walk to soi 4, and head down towards the 7-11. You will see an Orange sign for Nordic. There is a taxi stand there 200 baht to Central Festival. I assume LK Metro will be the same price range.

[Mohit3]

Hey fellow mongers,

Pattaya has always greeted me with a warm smile. Would be visiting soon again in the first week of October! Anybody want to join me for a beer do let me know.

Thanks.

[Christian G]

My biggest problem is really from 8 am To 12 pm Everything is closed at that time. You could spend this time in your hotel swimming pool (if have) or take a boat and go to Koh Larn, I have some friends love it. If you are a sportman can go to the gym or running.

Or you could go in some nice breakfast buffet and spend time there drink and eat LOL.

[Christian G]

Can you get there by taking the baht bus?Not sure because I always rent a motorbike and drive around, but I think have a baht bus go up and down Pratamnak Road, but probably you have to stop in the corner with pratamnak road and soi 4 or 5 and then walk down to Kinnaree.

[Banana Boi]

Visited upstairs at Windmill tonight. Downstairs is jammed with the same not so great ladies. Upstairs there were 3-4 decent girls, especially for Windmill. One really nice one was being barfined as we arrived. BF is 1000 baht + 2000 2 hour ST. If you have no hotel, they have rooms upstairs. Thoroughly enjoyed our stay. I had written off Windmill but this has renewed my faith that you can have a super dirty club with decent girls.

Visited Super Girl. Always see some cuties sitting eating so it's been on my TDL for some time. Place was rocking. Many uglies but definitely a few I will return for. Don't expect high end Baccara girls here but the girls are decent enough for sure. I may have found a new hangout. Good vibe.

Both of the above are definitely worth a visit if you're doing the WS gogo clubs.

[Adrena]

I wrote a post about 170 pages back. I want to re-post it with some additional info for the new bros who won't read back further than five pages and assume they have Pattaya figured out.

This is for complete beginners, so older members might think my observations are childish, because older members have been doing it for so long.

I won't give play by plays of my experiences unless it helps solidify my points. As always, older members are always welcome to chime in with their observations.

I was 31 years old when I first went in 2015. I am a 6'2" (188 cm) 218 pound (99 kg) white American male. I have abs, an outgoing personality, and can bench more than my weight for reps. I can get girls easily in every country I've visited. I'm not bragging, I only included this info because I want to emphasize that I paid the exact same for the girls as every other member of this board. Looks do not matter! The girls want your wallet, not your abs. If I walked into a gogo and didn't buy LD (lady drinks) they would ignore me just as quickly as they would ignore an 80 year old fat ass. However, I can recall several occasions where pot-bellied men started throwing cash around without question. They were much more popular than me. Always remember the motto; "cash is king".

I lurked on this board for about six months before my first trip and back-read reports for over 100 pages. I strongly suggest each monger do the same before they visit Pattaya. (but I know most of you won't).

Here are my tips that you should absolutely follow:

1. You should be able to quote price ranges for any service within each part of town at any given time of the day / week / year. You'll learn these prices from reading the last 100 pages of this forum. Don't be lazy, just do it! If you can't name at least three Soi 6 bars, or the average price of a FL on BR at 6 am, then you haven't read enough.

2. You should understand this is not your country or culture! People here act differently; don't expect them to change for you simply because you are unable to change for them. (which leads to my next tip).

3. Keep your eyes open. When you enter any place, hotels, restaurants, go-go's, it doesn't matter, look around and pay attention to what other people are doing. If you see a monger groping a girl and the girl is laughing, you are allowed to do the same. If you see mongers sitting on their hands, you better do the same until you see otherwise. Also, keep in mind that some people can do things others cannot. Indians get treated differently than Japanese, that's just the way it is. Know where you fit in. You'll have plenty of fun regardless of your background.

4. Plan on using at least 6,000 baht a day. Don't think you can get by with less on your first trip. Being tight with your wallet will ruin your holiday and leave a sour taste in your mouth. Don't try to argue on this one. If you can't bring at least 6,000 a day, don't go. After your first trip, you can plan on how much to bring, but first time just do as I say! That 6,000 does not include hotel fare either, you cheap bastard. Seasoned Pattaya mongers spend a lot less because they already know what works for them.

5. Have a game plan before you leave your hotel each morning. You don't have to plan every minute but at least know what part of town you want to visit. Thailand is hot, you don't want to be standing in the sun trying to decide where to go.

6. Don't try to do everything in one day. I know it's your holiday but don't go overboard. I tried to visit LK, Soi 6, WS, and go shopping all on my first day. It lead to me feeling hurried and stressed. I spent more time walking than I did enjoying my holiday. I realized that aiming for two destinations a day is a lot better. Soi 6 in the afternoon then WS at night worked beautifully for me. You can mix and match destinations.

7. Learn to love the baht buses. I walked everywhere the first two days; it was awful! I was staying near WS and I walked to Soi 6 and back several times. It was a big mistake. I eventually hopped on a baht bus, and everything was a lot easier after that revelation.

8. Lower your standards for what you need in a hotel. Like tip 2 suggests, don't expect things to be like back home. Do you really need to stay at a 5-star hotel? If the same answer is yes, go ahead and waste your money. You should make a list of the things you absolutely need in a hotel. My list was short: bed, toilet, near WS. I found a hotel with average ratings which was cheap. Turns out the hotel was freaking great! It was worth way more than the cost. My next trip, I'll be staying close to Soi 6.

9. Don't be shy! This is a rookie mistake I made. I tried being a gentleman and it made my trip less enjoyable. If you want a girl, go for it! Approach her, talk with her.

10. Just because you aren't shy doesn't mean you have a pass to be rude. Be the man with a smile, not the man with fist. If something frustrates you, remember this is your holiday. Let it go!

11. Relax! You will be overwhelmed your first time in Pattaya. You will get a flood of weird emotions. When that happens, find a relaxing place to reset and reassess your reasons for the visit. You read all these reports of men who land 11 girls in 6 days and you feel the need to do the same. The pressure can be bigger than you realized. Don't try to be that guy on your first trip. Be the guy laughing happily, not the dehydrated one looking to refill fluids. If you see a girl who gets you going, have fun! If you are tired from the previous girl, don't feel like you have to get another just to keep up with studs on this board. They've been here several times. They've been training for the marathon. You're still just a sprinter. Some of the guys in this forum are freaks of nature. Even with pills, I can't keep up with their numbers.

12. Try eating at different places for each meal. This one is a little more personal, but I feel the need to say it since I love experiencing new things. Don't go to the same place over and over. Also, be wary of seafood if it's been sitting outside all day.

IllusionHeart added these:

13. If you like a girl at a bar or gogo then barfine her or close the deal for ST or LT whichever you may like. Chances are that she will probably not be there if you come back for her after hopping few more places. There are tons of beautiful girls to meet everyone's taste and the search for the perfect one sometimes proves endless or tiresome. Hence as they say, "a bird in hand is better than 2 in the Bush. " Spend time enjoying the company of a girl rather then searching for the most beautiful girl around.

14. Girls are available around the clock in Pattaya. Do research for places if you have morning or day time preferences and you can roll 24 x 7 if you have the urge and stamina.

15. Do some reading on Ladyboys especially if you are not into them on how to identify and avoid as you can get a surprise in your room if haven't asked them before about their gender.

And the forum previously added this advice.

16. Know your drinking limit. If you get angry after seven beers, stop drinking at six. Your holiday will be quickly ruined if you make a drunken mistake. You don't want to start a fight in Thailand, and you don't want to be passed out drunk in the streets.

17. Know when to let stuff go. If the sign says "80 baht beer" but they charge me 90, I'll just let it go. 10 baht isn't worth fighting for. I once saw a monger angrily yell at two bartenders in the early afternoon because he was given a San Miguel Light instead of a regular San Miguel. I couldn't believe it! Don't be that guy. 1000 baht might be worth a disagreement, but 10 baht isn't.

18. Don't immediately get defensive when a girl quotes you a high price. If a BR FL asks for 1500, don't automatically think she trying to scam you out of your money. She's just trying to get what she can; don't take it as a personal offense because she didn't open with 800 or less. It is okay to negotiate, but it isn't okay to believe she hates you because that's what she asked for. Some guys take bargaining personal, please don't.

19. You'll see tons of posts in this forum arguing about money or complaining about Pattaya not being as great as it was; take those posts with a grain of salt. Many of them are bitter vets, or jealous haters. If you're new, you'll have the time of your life!

As always, older members are encouraged to add to this list. Your advice is more helpful than you may realize. I'll continue to add to this list and post an updated one in six months or so.

[Haven123]

I wrote a post about 170 pages back. I want to re-post it with some additional info for the new bros who won't read back further than five pages and assume they have Pattaya figured out.

This is for complete beginners, so older members might think my observations are childish, because older members have been doing it for so long.

I won't give play by plays of my experiences unless it helps solidify my points. As always, older members are always welcome to chime in with their observations.

I was 31 years old when I first went in 2015. I am a 6'2" (188 cm) 218 pound (99 kg) white American male. I have abs, an outgoing personality, and can bench more than my weight for reps. I can get girls easily in every country I've visited. I'm not bragging, I only included this info because I want to emphasize that I paid the exact same for the girls as every other member of this board. Looks do not matter! The girls want your wallet, not your abs. If I walked into a gogo and didn't buy LD (lady drinks) they would ignore me just as quickly as they would ignore an 80 year old fat ass. However, I can recall several occasions where pot-bellied men started throwing cash around without question. They were much more popular than me. Always remember the motto; "cash is king".

I lurked on this board for about six months before my first trip and back-read reports for over 100 pages. I strongly suggest each monger do the same before they visit Pattaya. (but I know most of you won't).

Here are my tips that you should absolutely follow:
"................

4. Plan on using at least 6,000 baht a day. Don't think you can get by with less on your first trip. Being tight with your wallet will ruin your holiday and leave a sour taste in your mouth. Don't try to argue on this one. If you can't bring at least 6,000 a day, don't go. After your first trip, you can plan on how much to bring, but first time just do as I say! That 6,000 does not include hotel fare either, you cheap bastard. Seasoned Pattaya mongers spend a lot less because they already know what works for them.

"............Really great stuff Andrena!

I agree with just about everything you noted. I think your advice is spot on. Except for the daily budget.

IMO, 1500 baht / night will get you decent digs, 1000 baht / day (including an occasional meal one with your girl) for food and incidentals is enough (unless you want a high end restaurant with wine etc), and 2,500/ day for drinks and a girl (ST or LT) is also a decent number. So, 5,000 baht will also be just fine. Although, those of us who can and wish to spend more can and will surely do so for each of the above sub categories.

Now, as for me, IF I find a girl I like a lot then I may have her stay with me for 3 days straight, and eat out, relax, go shopping ( buy her stuff) , do touristy things with her etc....but that is the exception. And even with the best GFE experience, I enforce a 3 day max rule.

For those planning to stay for 2 weeks or more your average daily budget could be less, and if you rent your place for a month long visit, it will be even cheaper. And I doubt you will incur all of those expenses every single night, because you will want some relax and recuperation days! I usually need 1 after every 3 days, since I stay for many weeks and don't feel the urgency to pack it all in every single night.

Also, I don't much care for Soi 6 and instead substitute that with a massage girl in my apt for an oil massage. . but not all days. And, I don't care much for gogos and prefer primarily the disco/dance clubs, particularly Insomnia. So, keep that in mind too.

Finally, I suggest dress hip / cool, act hip, show energy vs lethargy, and come across as a fun guy. Girls (particularly the younger ones) don't want just a boring guy. And more so, if like me, you stick with the under (say) 28.

But, someone visiting for 5 or less nights, that person may end up spending more because of the restricted time factor and very little time for iterative learning that allows for optimization of your budget vs. Your likes and preferences.

[Adrena]

I agree with just about everything you noted. I think your advice is spot on. Except for the daily budget.

IMO, 1500 baht / night will get you decent digs, 1000 baht / day (including an occasional meal one with your girl) for food and incidentals is enough (unless you want a high end restaurant with wine etc), and 2,500/ day for drinks and a girl (ST or LT) is also a decent number. So, 5,000 baht will also be just fine. Although, those of us who can and wish to spend more can and will surely do us for each of the above sub categories.

For those planning to stay for 2 weeks or more your average daily budget could be less, and if you rent your place for a month long visit. It will be even cheaper. And I doubt you will incur all of those expenses every single night, because you will want relax and recuperation days!.LOL, I knew the daily budget would get some responses. I put 6,000 because new guys are going to waste at least 1,000 a day on stupid stuff their first time: shirts, sunglasses, hats, losing bar games, or other traps the veterans avoid. Besides, if they end up with some extra money at the end of their trip, they'll be happier than if they didn't bring enough in the beginning.

20. Maintain a high energy attitude! Dress hip / cool, act hip, show energy vs lethargy, and come across as a fun guy. Girls (particularly the younger ones) don't want just a boring guy. And more so, if like me, you stick with the under (say) 28.

I'll make sure to add that to the next list.

[Banana Boi]

Budget can vary widely.

You can stay at a cheap place for 750 baht or a decent place like Baraquda for 3000 baht.

You can eat street vendor food for you and your girl for 750 baht or go to restaurants at Central Festival for lunch and dinner that will set you back around 3000 baht.

Transportation can be baht buses all day for 100 baht on the high end or the rip off Pattaya taxi system for 1000 baht depending on where you go for the day / night.

Drinks can vary widely and depends on how many lady drinks you buy. Let's say you conservatively drink 5 beers per day and buy 5 lady drinks. That will be 850 baht. Obviously going to high end discos will run way more. See below.

Odds and ends you buy at 7-11 and Family Mart will be 200-300 per day.

Now the important stuff, going out with ladies.

A budget day. Soi 6 in the early evening will be 300 BF + 1000 sex. Picking up a girl on Beach Road for 700-1000 or at iBar for 2000-3000 LT.

A more expensive day. Soi 6 in the late afternoon, 300 BF + 1000 sex. Hitting 2-3 gogo bars. Taking out a WS gogo girl 1000-2000 BF + 3000-5000 LT. Going to a club like Hollywood 2200 bottle of whisky and 10 mixers + an extra 500+ for ice and snacks.

Add shopping with your girl too.... even buying cheap clothing, shoes, hats on WS can add another 500 baht for the night. I took one shopping at Central Festival once. I left her in the middle of the shopping trip.

As you can see depending on how you roll things add up. On the low end, 5000-6000 seems right. On the high end which happens way too often since I'm after top optics, can be triple that.


. And I doubt you will incur all of those expenses every single night, because you will want some relax and recuperation days!.

I wish I could take a day off. Not in my DNA.

[Mr Enternational]

LOL, I knew the daily budget would get some responses. I put 6,000 because new guys are going to waste at least 1,000 a day on stupid stuff their first time: shirts, sunglasses, hats, losing bar games, or other traps the veterans avoid.I think 6000 is a great budget point. I am not a new guy but I think it does make sense to spend money on the things you are calling stupid stuff. I have been doing it since my first time in Thailand 11 years ago and continue doing it to this day. I will walk into Tukcom and see an external hard drive that I need for 2000 baht, or a vendor on the street selling the toy of the year for 100 baht that I must buy for my nephews, or go by my leatherworker and get some shoes or a wallet made. To me a trip to Thailand is not just about bars and fucking.

[Adrena]

I think 6000 is a great budget point. I am not a new guy but I think it does make sense to spend money on the things you are calling stupid stuff. I have been doing it since my first time in Thailand 11 years ago and continue doing it to this day. I will walk into Tukcom and see an external hard drive that I need for 2000 baht, or a vendor on the street selling the toy of the year for 100 baht that I must buy for my nephews, or go by my leatherworker and get some shoes or a wallet made. To me a trip to Thailand is not just about bars and fucking.Maybe "stupid stuff" was a poor choice of words. How can it be stupid if it makes you happy? I think a better phrase would be, "random unexpected costs" such as pills, clothes, souvenirs, condoms, 7-11 water, foot massages, ping-pong balls, lady drinks, ringing a rusted old bell, or seeing a movie. Those aren't usually added to a new bro budget. They only see hotel, food, alcohol, and sex. 6,000 just seems like the perfect first time number to me. One day, you might spend 3,000 but the next is 9,000. Pattaya is a wild place. I'm looking forward to my next visit!

I wish we could sticky the list to the top of the first page. I think it'd answer a lot of questions people have when they first find this site.

[Wolvenvacht]

You can eat street vendor food for you and your girl for 750 baht or go to restaurants at Central Festival for lunch and dinner that will set you back around 3000 baht.750 baht of street vendor food will feed an entire Thai family, grandparents, nephews, nieces, uncles and aunts included.

[Haven123]

I thin


.... To me a trip to Thailand is not just about bars and fucking.1. Absolutely! Not for me either. And not just Thailand. I will be headed to Puerto Plata soon for about 4 weeks. And same there!

I really enjoy the international (vs. the Enter....national) experience! I enjoy being with people of different cultures. Happy people. Even though they don't have a lot of moola.

2. As for shopping etc. , I did not include that in the budget. I spent a couple of hundred $ for a couple of high quality watches replicas / fakes and other gifts. But nothing for myself. So, since they were all gifts I did not include those in the budget. YMMV.

[Haven123]

750 baht of street vendor food will feed an entire Thai family, grandparents, nephews, nieces, uncles and aunts included.Haha. So true. But I never eat that stuff. Only cause I am leery of falling sick due to lack of immunity to local viruses.

I will be staying again adjacent to Central Festival for 5 weeks in Jan / Feb and as usual I love the variety and the ambiance (people watching) at the Central Festival Food Court. And, the grocery store there is really, really good. And they deliver for free if you buy a min of 1,500 baht.

[Haven123]

I wish I could take a day off. Not in my DNA.You are one sorry MFker dude. I totally envy you! 👍👻😀🖖

BTW, why did you leave the girl at Central Festival when you went shopping? I assume you are German?

[Michager]

I wrote a post about 170 pages back. I want to re-post it with some additional info for the new bros who won't read back further than five pages and assume they have Pattaya figured out.
Thank you for your post! I agree to almost all of your points.

You are right, that you don't need a 5-star-hotel in Pattaya. In fact, you don't need that anywhere in the world. But if you prefer 5-star-hotels. Like I do. And if you can afford the rate, there is no need to change that in Pattaya. The Hilton and the Intercontinental are both very good and both are absolutely girls-friendly. If you have a status in their loyalty program: The status recognition are good at both.

Yes, you don't have to look good for the professional girls, but it helps you with the semi-professional ones and amateurs, which you can also find in Pattaya. They are usually higher educated, which is not a pro for ST or normal LT. But I stay in Thailand quite frequently and sometimes I appreciate a good conversation before, between or after the sex. And: There are not many countries in the world where it is more true to say 'clothes makes the man' than Thailand. Even if 99,99% of the tourists in Pattaya don't care about that. If you are not (too) drunken, handsome, well-dressed and have the wherewithal, you can do almost everything in Thailand.

Tip number 20 should be: Never ever fall in love with a professional or non-professional girl. For me it is unbelievable how many Thai girls have 3, 5 or more different foreign friends at the same time who support "her girl" with money every month and every one of these guys thinks, that he is her only friend.

[Breadman]

I was 31 years old when I first went in 2015. I am a 6'2" (188 cm) 218 pound (99 kg) white American male. I have abs, an outgoing personality, and can bench more than my weight for reps. I can get girls easily in every country I've visited. I'm not bragging, I only included this info because I want to emphasize that I paid the exact same for the girls as every other member of this board. Looks do not matter! The girls want your wallet, not your abs. If I walked into a gogo and didn't buy LD (lady drinks) they would ignore me just as quickly as they would ignore an 80 year old fat ass. However, I can recall several occasions where pot-bellied men started throwing cash around without question. They were much more popular than me. Always remember the motto; "cash is king".
.Buddy of mine is just like you, same age, same body type. He has all the girls flocking to him and only buys a girl one ladydrink and they'll stay with him for hours. What's the difference? He speaks fluent Thai with their local dialect (like a southerner here's another southerner talking). He also lives in Thailand and gets all of his girls for free. His Line chat has over 900 girls on it, he'd turn it off while we were talking and I'd ask him to check an hour later and he'd have 50 chats from a ton of girls.


5. Have a game plan before you leave your hotel each morning. You don't have to plan every minute but at least know what part of town you want to visit. Thailand is hot, you don't want to be standing in the sun trying to decide where to go..I disagree on this point. You have to be fluid in your approach, you never know what might spark your interest. I would make a list of what you'd like to do and keep it handy to make sure the trip doesn't end before you can cross everything off your list.


7. Learn to love the baht buses. I walked everywhere the first two days; it was awful! I was staying near WS and I walked to Soi 6 and back several times. It was a big mistake. I eventually hopped on a baht bus, and everything was a lot easier after that revelation..Baht buses work well unless you have to walk for more than 4 minutes to catch one and then walk another 4 minutes after jumping off to reach your destination. Better option is to pay up for a motobike taxi nearby and save the extra time walking in the heat.


.8. Lower your standards for what you need in a hotel. Like tip 2 suggests, don't expect things to be like back home. Do you really need to stay at a 5-star hotel? If the same answer is yes, go ahead and waste your money. You should make a list of the things you absolutely need in a hotel. My list was short: bed, toilet, near WS. I found a hotel with average ratings which was cheap. Turns out the hotel was freaking great! It was worth way more than the cost. My next trip, I'll be staying close to Soi 6.Highly disagree on your hotel choice. Location is key. Taking a WS or LK metro girl all the way down to a hotel near soi 6 is extreme. I look for hotels where the baht bus from beach road can easily take me back, where the hotel is close enough to second road to catch baht buses heading towards soi 6, a hotel within a quick walk to WS and also convienient to LK metro. Also a hotel where a WS gogo girl might not be too put off walking to the hotel vs trying to get you to use a short time room. Also close enough to the beach road girls if you spot something.

[Adrena]

Buddy of mine is just like you, same age, same body type. He has all the girls flocking to him and only buys a girl one ladydrink and they'll stay with him for hours. What's the difference? He speaks fluent Thai with their local dialect (like a southerner here's another southerner talking). He also lives in Thailand and gets all of his girls for free. His Line chat has over 900 girls on it, he'd turn it off while we were talking and I'd ask him to check an hour later and he'd have 50 chats from a ton of girls.

I disagree on this point. You have to be fluid in your approach, you never know what might spark your interest. I would make a list of what you'd like to do and keep it handy to make sure the trip doesn't end before you can cross everything off your list..I'm pretty sure you agreed with me, except you elaborated your way into making it look disagreeable.

Your first point, "he speaks fluent Thai with their local dialect (like a southerner here's another southerner talking). He also lives in Thailand.".

Your buddy is playing a different game than most of us. Chess versus Checkers.

"I disagree on this point. You have to be fluid in your approach, you never know what might spark your interest. I would make a list of what you'd like to do and keep it handy to make sure the trip doesn't end before you can cross everything off your list. "

When you wake up in the morning, do you look at that list and say, "what will I do today?

You pretty much agreed with my point. I' wrote to not plan every minute, but have an idea of what you want to do. Maybe next list, I'll be more descriptive?

"Better option is to pay up for a motorbike taxi nearby and save the extra time walking in the heat".

I definitely disagree with that answer. I hate motor taxis. I know many others do as well. I haven't met anyone who hates baht buses. At most, they are indifferent towards them. Baht buses are cheaper, and easier for a first timer to accept. When they've visited SEA a few times, maybe they'll feel comfortable enough to hope on a motor taxi. They may be easier if the new bro lives far away from the action, or has a specific destination in mind, but most of the time baht buses are more flexible for a wandering first timer.

"Highly disagree on your hotel choice. Location is key."

How do you disagree when you basically go on to completely agree with what I said? I wrote, "You should make a list of the things you absolutely need in a hotel. ".

Location is something you absolutely need. Others may prefer a hotel far away from the action. That is why I left the point a little vague. Personally, I don't need a pool. I just need fast WiFi and very close to the action. That's why I prefer hotels on WS or the Queen Victoria Inn on Soi 6. I'm just wild like that. Others may want to stay in Jomtien or way out on the Dark Side.

I appreciate your insight. If a stranger were to land in Pattaya tomorrow, what advice would you give him? I sure you could throw in some extra points which can be added to the next list.

[FL Hawk]

Hi everyone,

I just joined the forum. I have been reading up on the Pattaya scene for a few days, and found some great information and advice. I have been to Pattaya over 25 times over the last 10 years. Was there in May this year and hoping to go over in late November, as well.

I was a regular at Whats Up, Peppermint, Hot Tuna, Iron Club etc but moved to the beer bars at Jomtien on my last visit. Met a cute lady and had a great time.

I have been alone on all my visits, and would like to know if I could meet up with someone on my next visit in November?I was there was last May and am now making plans to be there again in November. Like you, I have been alone, except for some time I spent in BKK with my Thai lady friend, but think it is past time to meet some others. Dang, I missed out on several guys last time that I regret.

[Banana Boi]

Buddy of mine is just like you, same age, same body type. He has all the girls flocking to him and only buys a girl one ladydrink and they'll stay with him for hours. What's the difference? He speaks fluent Thai with their local dialect (like a southerner here's another southerner talking). He also lives in Thailand and gets all of his girls for free. His Line chat has over 900 girls on it, he'd turn it off while we were talking and I'd ask him to check an hour later and he'd have 50 chats from a ton of girls.
I doubt many guys on ISG fall into the Brad Pitt category. In fact, I don't see many guys looking like Brad Pitt hobbying in Pattaya! Absolutely agree about learning Thai. I'm slowly learning my Thai as I live out here longer. Girls seriously love when I converse in Thai with them. They are even more shocked when I respond to their Thai conversation, even if I respond in English.
Central Festival Food Court. And, the grocery store there is really, really good. And they deliver for free if you buy a min of 1,500 baht.

Good to know. Didn't know the grocery store had free delivery.


750 baht of street vendor food will feed an entire Thai family, grandparents, nephews, nieces, uncles and aunts included.

You're correct that number is likely on the high side. I did my numbers up very quickly. However, I seem to find the girls who are the biggest eaters in Thailand!


why did you leave the girl at Central Festival when you went shopping?

After buying her some small stuff totalling 1500 baht, then spending around 1000 baht on a shirt and a pair of shorts at H&M, she moved on to Victoria Secret perfume at 3800 baht, then to look at jewellery. I don't care how pretty a girl is and this one was definitely pretty, I'll let a rich Japanese guy buy her this stuff.

[Mr Enternational]

I doubt many guys on ISG fall into the Brad Pitt category. In fact, I don't see many guys looking like Brad Pitt hobbying in Pattaya! Why is this guy's name always brought up? I have met a lot of guys off ISG and so far everyone is just an average ordinary guy, the same as Brad Pitt was before everyone saw him in Thelma and Louise back in 1991. But come to think of it, why does Tomjackin remind me so much of George Clooney?

[Haven123]

After buying her some small stuff totalling 1500 baht, then spending around 1000 baht on a shirt and a pair of shorts at H&M, she moved on to Victoria Secret perfume at 3800 baht, then to look at jewellery. I don't care how pretty a girl is and this one was definitely pretty, I'll let a rich Japanese guy buy her this stuff.Hahaha. I really was laughing out loud for some time as I read this!

Yeah, I took one out there as well and bought her stuff to wear for about 2000 baht. And then she was pointing to the jewelry store (probably half in jest) and I laughed out loud and pulled her by the arm, and said, yeah, please buy ME a ring!

And she said OK. 100 Baht. ! True story!

Sometimes one needs to have a good comeback. Like in the past when telemarketers called me in the US, I would say hang on, I have an even better deal and try to pretend sell them a fictional product. They would hang up. Or just laugh and say OK thanks!

[Kush82]

Hello friends,

I required your help to decide the dates to go Pattaya.

I am planning a trip to Pattaya from Delhi (17 - 22 September) alone. Is it OK to go Pattaya in September. How about the prices of mongering there and hotels. Till now I have not booked Flight tickets & hotel. I am planning to book Penthouse Hotel.

Please give your valuable suggestion.

Best regards,

Kush

[DecrepitInsane]

I should be there from 19th Nov onward, but still not got final details from my travel agent. When are you planning on hitting the scene?


I was there was last May and am now making plans to be there again in November. Like you, I have been alone, except for some time I spent in BKK with my Thai lady friend, but think it is past time to meet some others. Dang, I missed out on several guys last time that I regret.===============================================

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[Blanquiceleste]

You're correct that number is likely on the high side. I did my numbers up very quickly. However, I seem to find the girls who are the biggest eaters in Thailand!
Some wise man once said "Never let a hungry Thai girl order food".

I have also observed that most of these girls order insane quantities of food, sometimes upto 6 or 8 different dishes and barely get past 3 or 4 spoons. It is called "Hunger of the Eyes". One massage girl I was with who was a bit more sensible explained to me "Big Eyes, Small Stomach". I saw the Buddha in her eyes.

[Wolvenvacht]

Hello friends,

I required your help to decide the dates to go Pattaya.

I am planning a trip to Pattaya from Delhi (17 - 22 September) alone. Is it OK to go Pattaya in September. How about the prices of mongering there and hotels. Till now I have not booked Flight tickets & hotel. I am planning to book Penthouse Hotel.

Please give your valuable suggestion.

Best regards,

KushSeptember is still "low season" so both flights and hotels should have reasonable rates. High season starts as from end of October until early March.

Prices for mongering services however do not seem to change during the year.

If I were you, I'd think twice about Penthouse hotel. If I'm not mistaken there have been very mixed reviews about its quality.

[Member #4698]

I am planning a trip to Pattaya from Delhi (17 - 22 September) alone. Is it OK to go Pattaya in September. September is one of the best times in the year to go to Pattaya. The waves of tourist have rescinded and hotels offer their best rates of the year. Meanwhile the girls are at their friendliest although as Wolvenvacht points out, prices for nooky never fall.

As you must be aware coming from India, September is part of the rainy season in LOS so bring an umbrella for sure and perhaps some tall water proof rain boots. The streets flood every time there is a downpour making walking around and keeping your feet dry somewhat difficult. But then the sun comes out and everything is bright and shiny again. I really like Pattaya in September. December/January is the worst time to come here. IMHO.