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Gin And Tonic
10-16-16, 22:33
I hope the new king doesn't try to clean up the Pattaya we all know and love.
The go-gos and girls are the only reason I go there.
If they leave, so do I.Read up on him. Not likely to happen. But then it is not a sure thing he will be the monach.
Hi,
Short status from yesterday In Pattaya.
My hotel served alcohol no problem all day. All shops had sign saying alcohol sale starts 17 Oct.
Around half the Gogos was not open but Whats app was closed which I found strange since Baccara and Peppermint was open. Half volume on music was actually pleasant. Alcohol sales started 24.00 due to Buddha day. Everyone closed at 02.00. I visited Baccara (girls looked bored as usual, hardly moving-I still don't understand why it is popular) full house, Fahrenheit (decent line up) full house and Alcatraz (best line up and atmosphere of these 3 yesterday).
Ibar including upstairs open. Also the others discos in WS. Restaurants open. Bath buses, moto, taxi driving as normal.
Word of mouth is that Gogo's are hoping that they can do full day until 04.00 from today Monday.
For everyone worried if they will travel or not, nothing to worry about. My guess, based on yesterdays experience is that things will be back to normal from today, latest Wednesday. I think there is bigger chance that it will take longer time in BKK for things to normalize.
From DMK Airport took A1 bus to Mochit bus station. Took about 45 minutes to 1 hour. From Mochit took bus to north Pattaya (117 baht).
From north Pattaya baht bus can take you to your place.
Day 1:
Landed at Pattaya at 12 noon. Had a shower and some food and off to a massage parlor for an oil massage. Massage was good and worth a try. Evening just walked around Soi 6 good girls around including some beautiful ones but none was so appealing to me.
Got a contact from massage parlor. Called her on for the night and banged her - 2000 baht.
Day 2:
Off to see sanctuary of truth...Ricflairt,
I don't know why you would be surprised a beautiful girl ask for 1000 baht. In Pattaya for short time which can be 3 hours it is always 1000 baht or less sometimes 500-600. Maybe this is your first trip to Thailand. If you act innocent like you don't know what to pay the girl senses it and will try to get as much as they can. Also you can negotiate with these girl. Now if you go to a gogo place then short time will be from 1500-2500. The price can very and the service with a gogo is usually rushed and crap. Their goal is to finish as fast as possible and get back to the club to find another customer.
Nice report, Ricflairt.
One thing I have not attempted is to try to pick up a normal girl from a shop. No idea how old you are, but with my graying hair, I feel that to try to pick up a youngster from her day job would be futile as well as foolish. I take my laundry to Porn Laundry on Soi 13/1. There is a young woman in there who is cute who I thought of asking. There used to be a cute woman working as a waitress working at Bay Watch restaurant, or maybe Bay View, there on BR not too far north of WS, as well. Well, for that matter, there are cute shop girls all over! I know, the worst that will likely happen is they will say no, and at best I will have a wonderful time like you, so I suppose I need to man up and ask anyway.
But glad it all worked out for you. I will be back in 3 weeks. Can hardly wait.
OlderMan4U
10-18-16, 04:06
Nice report by Ricflairt.
I am curious though about his experience with the shoe sales girl.
I'm not sure what he meant by good girl, but I assume someone that was nice and friendly and had a regular job outside of the bars.
Anyways, I wouldn't mind asking out a girl who worked outside of the bars for a change, someone you meet working in a shop or service job. But I feel uncomfortable about it because I would be asking her out on a regular type of date such as going to a movie or just hanging out like on dates back home. Not necessarily just for sex. So after I spend time with her, am I obligated to ask her how much?
For one thing, I have read before that some girls who worked in non bar type jobs would be offended if you ask her the cost, implying that she's a working girl. But I am also aware that some girls who work at regular jobs may supplement their income with an occasional sex here and there with customers. So I wouldn't want to stiff such a girl no matter if she appears good or not.
I also wouldn't want to spoil the girl either. If she never had any intentions of wanting money and only wanted companionship that she may not get in her own life, then am I spoiling her by offering her money? And spoiling it for other guys?
One of those things where the lines can be blurred and you have to be careful I think.
Hi,
So I introduced my buddy to this forum for the first time about 1-2 weeks ago and he really liked it! I guess I must have still been logged in on his laptop, because he used it to post a question. He wanted to get some recent info esp due to the King's passing away and my info was from 5 years ago. And he's a newbie.
Still I was surprised Banana Boi and Sunlover2 called me out on a report from 5 years ago. Cheers!!
Needless to say, I've asked my buddy to get his own account if he's liking this forum so much.
Thanks all,
Phil.
JesseJames
10-18-16, 04:20
By this comment I guess you're the type that summarize the meaning of life as "everybody dies". Get a life instead.Whatever that means.
Gin And Tonic
10-18-16, 05:09
Hi,
So I introduced my buddy to this forum for the first time about 1-2 weeks ago and he really liked it! I guess I must have still been logged in on his laptop, because he used it to post a question. He wanted to get some recent info esp due to the King's passing away and my info was from 5 years ago. And he's a newbie.
Still I was surprised Banana Boi and Sunlover2 called me out on a report from 5 years ago. Cheers!!
Needless to say, I've asked my buddy to get his own account if he's liking this forum so much.
Thanks all,
Phil.No worries, no one takes these net Nazis serious. Well, other than themselves.
Phil, you have clearly been to Pattaya before. You really shouldn't need to ask if there is any place better. If you took the top 1% of girls in BKK vs. Pattaya, BKK likely has the edge but the pure quantity available in Pattaya makes it a better option imo.I don't understand. If I go into a place, I only really look carefully at the top 2 or 3 girls at most 6. The rest can be largely ignored. Could be I only care about 1 girl if for example Donut is attending the bar (in BKK). A little bit of choice is good, but too many options could be confusing. Thermae has too many girls. By the time a survey is done, best ones, will already be taken, and its very hard to determine girl attitude till talk to them. So I prefer a smaller venue more compact, but hate a crowded stage where only a small number of girls can be seen (Baccara BKK).
So how does the huge quantity help? Does it imply knock backs by top girls, with more backups, or being very hard to get to the best girls, or primal need to fuck every girl on the planet, or what?
I don't have a need to choose a girl to fuck, without fail. I can move on if nothing was really a must do choice.
Surely the real advantage of Pattaya is probable better value for money, or girls are cheaper than Bangkok? Or is it the style of the venues is suiting you better?
Banana Boi
10-18-16, 09:47
So how does the huge quantity help? Like yourself, I only look at the top 1-2 girls in each place and the rest are filler. By quantity I mean there are many more bars in Pattaya so more top girls around. ( i know I am not explaining this properly but Phnom Penh has literally exhausted me)
Not sure where all this perception of Pattaya being cheaper than BKK comes from? If you're talking gogo bars, BKK is cheaper. ST at Glass House gogo in Pattya is 2k BF + 5k. Not sure how much soapies are in BKK but I've been quoted 4500 for VIP at one of the soapies in Pattya and 7k or 8k for a Russian in Rapustin. I recall paying around 2100 for a very decent oily in BKK. 2100 gets you bottom of the barrel in Pattaya. Sure, some Beach Road riff raff may be cheaper but not so sure cheaper than Sukhumvit bar girls.
As for style of venue, you know I am a gogo guy. You basically are too which confuses me why you don't come to Pattaya. Talent wise Pattaya gogo clubs on Walking Street and LK Metro beat Nana and Soi Cowboy any day. Also far far few ladyboys in gogo bars in Pattaya. They're all over in Nana.
Crocodilexp
10-19-16, 07:42
Not sure where all this perception of Pattaya being cheaper than BKK comes from? The fact that there's not much in Bangkok in the 1000-baht-or-less range, but plenty in Pattaya.
For obtaining sex specifically, agogos are a ripoff these days, unless you really enjoy that kind of atmosphere (I don't).
Member #4698
10-19-16, 13:03
Once upon a time PATTAYA Go Go bars and Go Go girls were cheaper than their counterparts in BKK. Not anymore.
Once upon a time PATTAYA Go Go bars and Go Go girls were cheaper than their counterparts in BKK. Not anymore.Since your tastes are so similar even if broader, What is best about Pattaya and what is best about Bangkok?
Can you consider non mongering times as well? I never monger all day every day.
Is it the desire of guys to experience everything? Is there anything really special in Pattaya or Bangkok? For me everything is so dependent on my individual favorite girls, be they stunning or sometimes just very cute.
I was considering spending time in another province just because one girl was studying there. LOL.
So if you took your 6 top girls ranked in sequence of most favourite (not just looks), are they mostly in Bangkok or Pattaya or equally distributed?
I know I am weird but I don't travel anywhere just looking for new girls to fuck. I only travel long distances to places for girls I already know, or for other reasons. I have no girls in Pattaya so nothing is pulling me there. It is that simple. I could have made time for Pattaya just never got around to it.
Banana Boi
10-19-16, 20:11
My first night back in Pattaya since the King's passing. Pattaya is eerily creepy. Very quiet ie. No music but seemed to be quite busy with guys on soi 7. All girls dressed in black, mainly now in t-shirts since many likely didn't have black clothing. They all kind of look generic now. You can noticeably tell things have been dialed back. Bars close at 2 am now. I'm seriously considering heading straight back to Phnom Penh until Thailand lifts these rules. I recommend everyone to stay away from Thailand until the 30 days is over. It's no fun right now.
My first night back in Pattaya since the King's passing. Pattaya is eerily creepy. Very quiet ie. No music but seemed to be quite busy with guys on soi 7. All girls dressed in black, mainly now in t-shirts since many likely didn't have black clothing. They all kind of look generic now. You can noticeably tell things have been dialed back. Bars close at 2 am now. I'm seriously considering heading straight back to Phnom Penh until Thailand lifts these rules. I recommend everyone to stay away from Thailand until the 30 days is over. It's no fun right now.Yeah, I've already reconsidered my return trip. A real shame.
I'm considering Angeles city.
Mr Enternational
10-19-16, 20:26
I recommend everyone to stay away from Thailand until the 30 days is over. It's no fun right now.Trying to keep all the chicks to yourself? I will see you next week brother.
Banana Boi
10-19-16, 20:39
I'm considering Angeles city.Keep in mind it's typhoon season. The next big on is hitting PI in 4 days.
My buddy shot me a video of the Hurricane this past weekend in Jakarta. Definitely not a time to be walking around outside bar hopping. In fact, there were warnings that no one go outside.
Trying to keep all the chicks to yourself? I will see you next week brother.Haha. I will be there in 18 days!
OlderMan4U
10-20-16, 04:42
Wow reading the prices below for some gogo's is sticker shock for me!
Short time barfines at 2000 baht and short time for 5000 baht? That's insane.
Well I guess if you can afford it more power to you. I certainly cannot, at least for multiple times on a short trip.
Unless I was making 6 figures a year and then some, I cannot justify paying almost 4 times the amount for a girl I can get closer to home in Tijuana ('legally' And we are talking for basically just a shag back in your hotel room.
Not getting into price wars, but just not for me. I do not barfine from gogo's much anyways due to the rising price and also the risk of getting a dud. Imagine paying 7000 baht plus for a short time, and the girl turns out to be a terrible experience.
I am hoping Soi 6 and the beer bars can weather those huge increases in girl's fees for a few more years at least.
Banana Boi
10-20-16, 04:46
Anyone know if places like Kinnaree or Kit Kat club in Jomtien have reopened? I don't want to take a taxi and find out they are closed.
Kit Cat G club post #20817 - http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1944559&viewfull=1#post1944559.
Keep in mind it's typhoon season. The next big on is hitting PI in 4 days.
My buddy shot me a video of the Hurricane this past weekend in Jakarta. Definitely not a time to be walking around outside bar hopping. In fact, there were warnings that no one go outside.Ha ha! I have been in Thailand in every season over the years. The only reason I ever stayed under cover was when it was absolutely bucketing down and did not want to be totally soaked through in 5 secs.
Bar hopping? Sure no big deal. Need to get the girl to the ST Hotel for fuck to go ahead. Always worth owning an extra large very strong umbrella (not miniature foldup).
Thai people are a little paranoid. They will refuse to speak on the mobile during a thunderstorm for fear of being struck by lightning. For me, I would avoid being in open like golf course or beach. Incidence of lightning strikes in the tropics is high.
Super tropical Cyclones or Typhoons are rare in Bangkok and Pattaya, in fact I never experienced one. However should one of these occur it would be obviously a completely different ball game. Perhaps this year can be worse with El Ninyo effects.
The Thai word for a thunderstorm is Paa-yu. Unfortunately this is a general term for storms and extra words would be needed to convey special types (or extra severe), e. G. Hurricane, Typhoons, etc.
Banana Boi
10-20-16, 05:13
Ha ha! I have been in Thailand in every season over the years. The only reason I ever stayed under cover was when it was absolutely bucketing down and did not want to be totally soaked through in 5 secs.
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Super tropical Cyclones or Typhoons are rare in Bangkok and Pattaya, in fact I never experienced one. My post was in reference to a poster wanting to visit Angeles City.
Alladingold
10-20-16, 06:58
Hi gentlemen,
I'm excited to go to Pattaya for the first time this Sunday. I hear it's slow due to the King's passing, so if anyone wants to go for a drink and check out the girls and have a laugh, I would be game.
Keep in mind it's typhoon season. The next big on is hitting PI in 4 days.
My buddy shot me a video of the Hurricane this past weekend in Jakarta. Definitely not a time to be walking around outside bar hopping. In fact, there were warnings that no one go outside.Thank for mentioning it, but I'm planning on heading mid November. I assume / hope there won't be any typhoons waiting by then.
Banana Boi
10-20-16, 20:18
Weird seeing Pattaya with no music. Walked through LK Metro tonight, everything is open. A couple of the gogo clubs had their sign lights off but still open. Ninja was one. Even with the gogo club doors open you could barely hear the music. Some of the glass walled gogo bars like Papagayo on Soi Diana and Shooters on Soi 7 have all their windows blacked out.
I hear it's slow due to the King's passing,
It's not slow. Places seem quite busy. Just to clarify when I said quiet I meant no music, not that the bars did not have girls.
Banana Boi
10-20-16, 20:30
Wow reading the prices below for some gogo's is sticker shock for me!
Short time barfines at 2000 baht and short time for 5000 baht? That's insane.This is the exception rather than the norm. Most clubs still follow the norm 1000 BF, 2000-3000ST depending on girl and club.
Alladingold
10-21-16, 08:42
Weird seeing Pattaya with no music. Walked through LK Metro tonight, everything is open. A couple of the gogo clubs had their sign lights off but still open. Ninja was one. Even with the gogo club doors open you could barely hear the music. Some of the glass walled gogo bars like Papagayo on Soi Diana and Shooters on Soi 7 have all their windows blacked out.
It's not slow. Places seem quite busy. Just to clarify when I said quiet I meant no music, not that the bars did not have girls.Thanks Banana,
I was actually worried that if I don't hear the music, I wouldn't know if I was heading to the right places. Do they have the infamous shows there in the Gogo bars? I hear that the bars close at 2 am, what time do the go go bars close?
Also, how does Tinder work there? I heard from a previous post that he barely left the room due to tinder.
My post was in reference to a poster wanting to visit Angeles City.Yes, I thought he should consider change to Thailand. LOL.
Banana Boi
10-21-16, 20:32
Another night and another step closer to redeeming normality. Music in the clubs is back to normal level now for at least the ones I visited. Bars that are not fully enclosed still have quiet music.
Still early closing at 2 am which sucks.
OlderMan4U
10-21-16, 20:54
This is the exception rather than the norm. Most clubs still follow the norm 1000 BF, 2000-3000ST depending on girl and club.Good to know, thanks.
I know prices can't stay the same forever, but hopefully they'll stay the same-ish for a long time!
Weird seeing Pattaya with no music. Walked through LK Metro tonight, everything is open. A couple of the gogo clubs had their sign lights off but still open. Ninja was one. Even with the gogo club doors open you could barely hear the music. Some of the glass walled gogo bars like Papagayo on Soi Diana and Shooters on Soi 7 have all their windows blacked out.Great! I hate thunderous music and I like being able to have a normal conversation. Pattaya, here I come!!!
Hi gentlemen,
I'm excited to go to Pattaya for the first time this Sunday. I hear it's slow due to the King's passing, so if anyone wants to go for a drink and check out the girls and have a laugh, I would be game.I'll be there from this Friday to early Wednesday morning next week. Let me know if you want to meet up and we can exchange notes.
Banana Boi
10-25-16, 00:42
Have hit about 20 Walking Street and 8 LK Metro gogo bars over the past few days. Must say everything seems completely back to normal. The surprise bar for me was the resurgence of Sapphire. It had been imo a pretty poor lineup all Summer but there were some ok girls there the other night. Still not Sensations, Baccara, What's Up, or Skyfall quality but a step in the right direction.
LittleBigMan
10-25-16, 01:35
I heard the same that things are pretty much back to normal, the one thing that was missing is the nudity? Places like G-Spot, Electric Blue, Dollhouse usually nudity were all covered up, This was the same as Bacarra, Happy, but of course Sapphire normally is all covered up.
Banana Boi
10-25-16, 04:04
You are correct. No nudity on stage in the gogo clubs at this time.
Is there still nudity on stage in the BKK gogo clubs?
LittleBigMan
10-25-16, 08:52
My contact last night send me a message said they were out and the clubs I mentioned especially Electric Blue and Dollhouse was back with some nudity. Owners / Managers said they were being hurt financially that customers were way down and having to continue to pay the expenses of the girls plus having to close up at 2 am was hurting them in the pocket book so they decided to just take their chances and go back to their normal business plans. Sugar Girls was rumor to be opening now at 6pm and has nudity?
Alladingold
10-26-16, 00:26
Hello all,
First, a bit of background: This was my second time in Thailand, but the first time was a two night stay in Bangkok just to see what the commotion was about. I had this trip (Pattaya) as a stopover on my way to Japan. Unfortunately, I missed a connecting flight and my tow night expedition in Pattaya has now become one night. Sucks for me.
Now, for the Report:
Arrived at 7 am in Pattaya and checked in at Intimate Hotel. Seems like a good enough location and got the room with the hot tub. To be honest, for a one night stay (paying two night price since I missed the flight), it wasn't worth getting the hot tub. So I could have took my hotel cost from 5800 baht to 3300 baht. But oh well. The hotel did not charge a lady fee. But if you bring two girls, they will charge you an extra 1000 baht. Also, the girls must be over 20 years old (which for me is fine, would feel weird with one under that).
Walked around on Monday morning at 7:30 am and no massage places were open and went to Soi 6 and nothing was open. I never read any times that places are open, so didn't know if it was 24 hours or not. It isn't.
Back at the hotel around 9:30 am because I didn't know about the blue trucks that has a seating area on the back carriage. Just for newbies to know, you wave them down and they go in a straight line. Once you wave them down, get in till you want to get out. Press the button over your head to give them a notification that you want them to stop. Just throw them 10 baht and you are good.
In my room at 10:00 am and went on tinder and Badoo. Most people you make contact with will want to talk to you on Line, so have that app with you. Within an hour, I contacted 4 girls, almost had a lady boy come to my room (make sure when you read their messages that you make sure they meant the right word. Sometimes Thai people put in "no" when they mean "know") and finally ended up with a girl. She said 1000 baht, I said I wanted 2 hours and she said "what do you want to do for 2 whole hours. " I told her that I wanted to watch a movie with her in my room. Anyways, she came and had a good chat and did the deed. Paid her and she left.
Slept till 6 pm (was tired from the trip) and then went to Devils den. You can see where it is from google maps. Got two girls and both did Anal and [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117). They don't let you do [CodeWord117] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117) on their face and I guess when you are with a girl, it's doesn't seem as exciting to do it anymore. So I chickened out. It was to fulfill my pornstar fantasy to have two girls for 90 minutes. Two girls were Cory and Wan. Cory is not as good looking at the picture, but Wan was represented well. Did both girls every which way. They kept moaning pornstar like, but it was kinda fake so I made fun of them for that. Seemed a little to mechanical and fake, I wouldn't recommend it unless you want to definitely have that two girl experience simply and get it out of the way. Damage was 4000 baht for the two girls and the room.
Went back to the room and freshened up and had a beer. At around 10:30 pm, I went around walking street. It's full of Agogo's and some Bars. It's awkward for a newbie to go to a bar by himself, or at least it was for me. Just walked around the street and had a drink at the bar. The agogo had loud music and it was over the top. I think the best part of walking street was getting to walking street. I saw areas of bars that seemed to cater to everything. At one point, I saw bars that were focused on the middle east. And one Thai girl was wearing Arab women "coverings" asking me to sit next to her. Awesome idea for anyone that has those hijab fantasies.
Anyways, chickened out going to agogo and instead people watched. Left walking street at 1:00 am to go to Soi6. Got to Soi6 at 1:30 and turns out that place shuts down pretty much at 1:30. There were a few bars, so I ended up going to Nightwish. Got a pretty cute girl as it was closing (23 years old) and asked her how much for LT. 350 BF and 2000 LT. I didn't bother negotiating because of my failure to enjoy walking street and I like waking up to a cute chick next to me. That was down. Best part was BBBJ in the morning, felt like a man again. .
She left at 11:00 am the next morning and I went for a foot massage. Went to Soi 6 again (I wanted to see what it was like when it's open) and it seems that it really opens at 1:00 pm. Lots of girls to choose from, but I was kinda tired and needed to go back to the airport. So went back at 3:00 pm for the taxi to Bangkok.
Sorry guys if there were a lot of details that everyone knows. But I think the times actually might help the newbies. I spent about 4-5 hours reading posts on here and didn't really understand how to do the simplest things. I hope someone can find this info useful.
Wolvenvacht
10-26-16, 10:20
You are correct. No nudity on stage in the gogo clubs at this time.
Is there still nudity on stage in the BKK gogo clubs?I went to Suzie Wong in Soi Cowboy (Bangkok) twice last week and whereas nudity was usually guaranteed at Suzie Wong, now all girls wore white or black lingerie and there were no sexy shows at all.
However once you invite a dancer for a ladydrink, you can pretty much inspect her up close and personal. I even got to fondle a mamasan's tits and pussy.
Banana Boi
10-28-16, 01:13
Happy to see nudity is back in the Pattaya gogo bars. Maybe it never went missing and I was just going to the wrong clubs. Skyfall and Iron both with plenty to show. Skyfall lineup has slipped a lot. Iron has one super hot model like coyote. Added a few ok girls too. Bad part 90% of the girls are not pretty some being very hard to look at ie. Ladyboy flags going off.
Hey guys,
I am travelling to Pattaya for the first time in November. I ave been reading all the reports and I just wanted to know where you can exchange the currency in Pattaya because the rates at the airport are horrible. Also the ST and LT pay for the girls what are the averages nowadays. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
HotStud251
10-28-16, 04:57
EXCHANGE currency on beach road.
Best are the ones with yellow sign boards but you can compare.
Carry gbp or usd for gud exchange rates.
Hey guys,
I am travelling to Pattaya for the first time in November. I ave been reading all the reports and I just wanted to know where you can exchange the currency in Pattaya because the rates at the airport are horrible. Also the ST and LT pay for the girls what are the averages nowadays. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Uncle Volodya
10-28-16, 07:35
EXCHANGE currency on beach road.
Best are the ones with yellow sign boards but you can compare.
Carry gbp or usd for gud exchange rates.TT with the yellow signs usually has the best rate.
A good spot to change is on 2nd road between Soi 13/3 and 13/2. There are a number of money change stalls there on both sides of the street and you can easily price shop to get the best rate. 9/10 it's TT.
Hey guys,
I am travelling to Pattaya for the first time in November. I ave been reading all the reports and I just wanted to know where you can exchange the currency in Pattaya because the rates at the airport are horrible. Also the ST and LT pay for the girls what are the averages nowadays. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.What currency will you be exchanging? If USD generally you get a better rate and acceptance with **pristine** and latest issue larger denomination note I. E. $50 and $100 bills with no rips, marks, or wrinkles. Go to your bank before you leave and get their newest (basically uncirculated) bills.
Unless I am in a pinch I use the non-bank money changers on WS and LK Metro. The store fronts look more like travel agencies but their USD exchange rates are very competitive. Otherwise you will see dozens of places with posted rates in your travels around town just comparison shop.
SL.
Wolvenvacht
10-28-16, 13:08
Hey guys,
I am travelling to Pattaya for the first time in November. I ave been reading all the reports and I just wanted to know where you can exchange the currency in Pattaya because the rates at the airport are horrible. Also the ST and LT pay for the girls what are the averages nowadays. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.If you go down to the lowest level at the airport (where the station of the Airport Link train is), you will find a SuperRich exhange booth there that gives excellent rates.
Banana Boi
10-28-16, 13:11
Unless I am in a pinch I use the non-bank money changers on WS and LK Metro. I always found the further away you were from tourist places like Walking Street the better the rates.
I always found the further away you were from tourist places like Walking Street the better the rates.True as a general rule, not so in this case of these shops. I tend to visit them during the day / early evening not sure how late they stay open.
If you go down to the lowest level at the airport (where the station of the Airport Link train is), you will find a SuperRich exhange booth there that gives excellent rates.Yup; but warning they have somewhat limited hours like 9 am-8 pm, and I have seen SuperRich kiosk locations that have run out baht to sell.
SL.
TT with the yellow signs usually has the best rate.
A good spot to change is on 2nd road between Soi 13/3 and 13/2. There are a number of money change stalls there on both sides of the street and you can easily price shop to get the best rate. 9/10 it's TT.I agree with Uncle V, and during my last visit I confirmed that TT (as Uncle V had recommended) had one of the best rates around.
You will need a passport or equivalent ID. Also, slightly better rates for USD $50 and $100 notes, vs. say $20 or $10 notes.
Hey guys,
I am travelling to Pattaya for the first time in November. I ave been reading all the reports and I just wanted to know where you can exchange the currency in Pattaya because the rates at the airport are horrible. Also the ST and LT pay for the girls what are the averages nowadays. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.Exchange enough at the airport to pay for the transportation to Pattaya, plus some extra. I usually exchange $100. When I arrive in Pattaya, I will take $200 to $300 with me, walk around and do an exchange with the best place I find. As said, the rates are competitive all over, so the differences will often be insignificant. Never exchange much more than you think you will be spending, especially a day or two before you will be leaving.
Note that late at night the exchange places will shut down leaving fewer options. I was once out late in Bangkok and we had to drive quite a distance to find an open exchange. There is one on WS stays open later than most in the city, but don't push it!
As said, try to get fresh or only slightly used $100 bills if from the US. Lower denominations, or overly used bills, will bring a lower rate. If what your local banks gives you is is not of the current design or is not relatively pristine (some folds and slight wear are ok), then ask them for a better note. And, of course, keep your money in a locked safe, and when you come back to the hotel with a girl, put any extra money away before you take your shower. I had a scare once when I had several thousand baht in my pants that I foolishly left out on the bed when I took my shower. I am not so concerned about an outright 'steal and run' as they have to get their ID's, and the place I stay is very good at calling me when the girl leaves, but she could have taken a thousand or so and I could not have proven it. Fortunately, like most Thai girls, she was honest so there was no problem. But be careful with money!
First time in Pattaya, first time in Thailand.
Ten months of research did not prepare me for the experience of actually being here. Two days and already and I am way out of my depth.
Today I went to the Devil's Den something that was at least within my comfort zone, I managed to tick a few boxes there so at least the long flight was not for nothing.
I've yet to take one of the baht buses, where do you get the ten baht coins from? I am getting a lot of twenty baht notes, do they give change or do you just give them the twenty instead?
Gin And Tonic
10-28-16, 22:49
First time in Pattaya, first time in Thailand.
Ten months of research did not prepare me for the experience of actually being here. Two days and already and I am way out of my depth.
Today I went to the Devil's Den something that was at least within my comfort zone, I managed to tick a few boxes there so at least the long flight was not for nothing.
I've yet to take one of the baht buses, where do you get the ten baht coins from? I am getting a lot of twenty baht notes, do they give change or do you just give them the twenty instead?555, not sure if you are real or not. Try going to a 7/11 and buying a 30 baht candy bar with a 100 b. Hopefully they give you back some coins not a 20 + 50. If bus drivers guess you are a tourist they sometimes run out of change. Maybe stick to Soapies or Gentlemans Clubs if you feel overwhelmed. What area are you staying in for more specific advice?
First time in Pattaya, first time in Thailand.
Ten months of research did not prepare me for the experience of actually being here. Two days and already and I am way out of my depth.
Today I went to the Devil's Den something that was at least within my comfort zone, I managed to tick a few boxes there so at least the long flight was not for nothing.
I've yet to take one of the baht buses, where do you get the ten baht coins from? I am getting a lot of twenty baht notes, do they give change or do you just give them the twenty instead?Don't feel bad. I was also completely overwhelmed my first time in Pattaya. The place tests you in new ways. My advice is to take things slowly, learn to say yes, and not expect to keep up with the men on these boards. Don't try to get 30 girls in a week. Try to get what makes you happy. Hop on a baht bus today. You'll be happy you did.
Banana Boi
10-29-16, 00:59
Ableyone, head over to Walking Street and pretend each gogo club is a FKK. Let the girls come to you, buy them a drink, and take one to your hotel room if you desire. Really no different than a FKK. Some clubs to consider Sensations, Sapphire, Baccara, Happy, Skyfall, Palace, Iron, Glass House, Super Girl. You didn't hit the gogo bars in LK Metro after Devil's Den?
If you desire something closer to a FKK, the closest thing would be Kinnaree Place on Pratumnak Hill. About 30 girls Wed-Sat arrive at 3 pm. Bar closes at 7 pm. You need to take taxi or motorbike, around 200 baht for taxi and 60 baht for bike, each way. Free entry. Free food Wed and Sat.
If you're still struggling, PM me. Always willing to help out a fellow FKK guy.
OfficeMatt
10-29-16, 01:38
I always found the further away you were from tourist places like Walking Street the better the rates.I am curious as to why people are always bringing cash with them when there are these marvellous inventions called ATMs everywhere? Is it just a cultural thing? I know that debit cards are ubiquitous in Canada but not as much in the US and Europe, but not sure how people view them. Carrying cash is just so damn risky, especially scads of it. ATM fees aren't really that much of a bother for me either when doing the risk analysis as well, just take out more and it is a pittance!
Redfield10
10-29-16, 03:01
I am curious as to why people are always bringing cash with them when there are these marvellous inventions called ATMs everywhere? Is it just a cultural thing? I know that debit cards are ubiquitous in Canada but not as much in the US and Europe, but not sure how people view them. Carrying cash is just so damn risky, especially scads of it. ATM fees aren't really that much of a bother for me either when doing the risk analysis as well, just take out more and it is a pittance!Well, best to diversify. I do cash, debit card, and carry a credit card. You bight lose your ATM etc.
I am curious as to why people are always bringing cash with them when there are these marvellous inventions called ATMs everywhere? Is it just a cultural thing?Using cash = fewer foot prints (important to some) and less chance of card fraud. I believe the Thai ATM bank fee is currently 180 baht per foreign transaction, but some US financial institutions will reimburse this fee. And exchanging USD cash at top places get you a better rate than the ATM rate. So basically you can save. 5% to 1% on exchanges by going cash. Not huge money, but it can add up depending on how much you spend.
Example: for a monthly visit $5000 USD x 1% = $50 = 1750 baht = 24 large bottles of Heineken for the room, or a few bottles of your favorite libation, or a couple of nice meals, or a bunch of happy hour drinks, or two visits to L0 litas. YMMV of course.
Yes; there is a security risk carrying cash which has to be weighed against the above.
SL.
Anybody who is currently in Pattaya, let the board know when go-go's start having nudity again.
I'll be there Jan. 17th. I'm sure everything will be back to normal by then, but I like staying informed.
Mr Enternational
10-29-16, 12:58
If you desire something closer to a FKK, the closest thing would be Kinnaree Place on Pratumnak Hill. About 30 girls Wed-Sat arrive at 3 pm. Bar closes at 7 pm. You need to take taxi or motorbike, around 200 baht for taxi and 60 baht for bike, each way. Free entry. Free food Wed and Sat.I just left Kinnaree an hour ago. My friend paid 350 for the buffet. When we left out to get on our bikes there was a driver telling someone 300 to go somewhere, wherever it may have been.
Mr Enternational
10-29-16, 13:03
I am curious as to why people are always bringing cash with them when there are these marvellous inventions called ATMs everywhere? For 1, the ATM on Soi 8 ate my cousin's card.
Banana Boi
10-29-16, 14:05
I just left Kinnaree an hour ago. My friend paid 350 for the buffet. When we left out to get on our bikes there was a driver telling someone 300 to go somewhere, wherever it may have been.I was at Kinnaree too. Sorry you are correct I just assume anyone going to Kinnaree isn't going to not meet the 900 baht minimum. They deduct the 350 baht if your total bill is over 900 baht. A couple drinks for you, a couple of tequilas for your girl, and a 300 baht bar fine puts you over. Taxi is 200 baht if you walk to Soi 4 where the taxi stand is. The motorbikes out front are trying to take advantage of the rain and charge 300. Scam. My ride home was free since my girl drove me home.
http://www.kinnareeplace.com/Kinnaree_Place/Events.html
Eszpresszo
10-29-16, 14:58
I am curious as to why people are always bringing cash with them when there are these marvellous inventions called ATMs everywhere? Is it just a cultural thing? I know that debit cards are ubiquitous in Canada but not as much in the US and Europe, but not sure how people view them. Carrying cash is just so damn risky, especially scads of it. ATM fees aren't really that much of a bother for me either when doing the risk analysis as well, just take out more and it is a pittance!Others have chimed in giving various reasons why you cannot depend solely on your ATM card. Here is another: ATMs might suddenly decide they don't like your card. Last April in Medellin, I was running up and down La 70, trying to find an ATM that would give me cash. Unfortunately, none of the ATMs I went to would accept my card. It wasn't that the ATMs were down. I saw other locals getting money out of them. But, for some reason, none of them liked my debit card. Fortunately, I had brought some USD in cash to exchange in such a scenario. Even more fortunate, the next morning I tried another ATM outside a bank, next door to Masaje Energia, and it gave me the cash, no problema.
But as Mr. E mentioned earlier, the ATM can also eat your card. In this video, ex-pat vBlogger King Epic gives an example of how that happened and how to deal with it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--DpL1zp64U
I am planning a celebration of my four trips to Thailand. On my first trip I barfined a couple of girls from a beer bar where the mamasan was a very-modest-looking lady with Chinese features. Not a beauty but very nice. On a subsequent trip I saw her again. She still looked modest but had acquired some wordly ways, including makeup.
We have never exchanged a word. But is there any etiquette to guide me in dealing with her should I bump into her again.
Mr Enternational
10-29-16, 23:49
I am planning a celebration of my four trips to Thailand. On my first trip I barfined a couple of girls from a beer bar where the mamasan was a very-modest-looking lady with Chinese features. Not a beauty but very nice. On a subsequent trip I saw her again. She still looked modest but had acquired some wordly ways, including makeup.
We have never exchanged a word. But is there any etiquette to guide me in dealing with her should I bump into her again.Well she has a bar to run so she can not leave from that duty. Being a guy who would not ordinarily pay a bar fine, I get them to come over after work the same as all the others and shoot them 1000 baht the next morning (really afternoon) when they leave.
Mr Enternational
10-30-16, 01:29
I went to 808 with another board member who I met in Colombia. It was his first time in Thailand. As soon as we walked in he tried to walk around the club. I immediately stopped him saying let me show you how I do things. I call it the shark or the cobra method. I sit in the shadows by the door relaxed. Every girl has to come in, leave out, or go to the toilet so you will not miss any of them. When you see one that you like just reach out and grab them. (Another wingman prefers to sit back and let the girls come to him.) No sooner than we walk over to my spot and I see a chick I am about to get on. Before I even sat down he grabbed her. You snooze, you lose. I should not be surprised though. 10 out of 10 newbies are going to get on the first thing they see instead of checking out the scene first. I have seen it time and time again. Well he was not letting go of this chick so I had to sit back and chill.
I saw a couple of my regulars that had friends with them who I would have loved to take home. But let me cut to the chase. I was sitting there peering off into the distance trying to see what I could see, and this chick pops up out of nowhere and punched me in the dick. (The next day the other member said that after seeing that, he thought I already knew the girl.) I was like what the fuck. She had her sidekick with her who would hardly say a word the entire time. So the chick is just standing there between my legs talking away while I am still looking around trying to find other chicks. Then I hear those magic words from her lips: "Do you want two girls?" Upon hearing that I give the chicks a closer visual inspection before responding with, "Don't mind if I do. ".
We still sat there a while talking shit then I was like fuck it and popped the question. How much do you want? She said up to you. I said no you tell me first. She said 2000. I said 1000. She said okay. I said well talk to your friend (who still had not said 1 word) and ask if that is okay with her. She said you talk to her. 1000 is for me and whatever you work out with her is up to you. So I pulled the friend over and told her the payment plan. She agrees.
There is another wingman with me and he is with some chick who is in the army that he met online. I am driving my bike with two chicks on the back and they are just laughing. So his girl takes a picture for me while we are riding down the street. The girls decide they want something to eat first so I asked them if they wanted me to stop at the food places on Pattaya Tai. They told me to just stop at 7-11 and they could get some noodles. I gave them 100 baht and told them to bring back some ice as well.
When we got home they ate while I was in the shower, then one went to take a shower. While she was gone I took out my dick from under my wrap around towel to put it in the ring leader's mouth. She protested saying that it would not be good because she had been eating spicy. But you can not talk sense to a hard dick. Her mouth felt so good. But later on after I took it out of her mouth and the air started getting to it, things started heating up; and not in a good way. When the quiet chick got out of the shower I went in to grab my wet washcloth to try to get some of that spicy shit off of my dick to no avail. I would have to leave it to the next chick to suck it off. So when the ring leader went to the bathroom I put my dick into the quiet chick's mouth. I was trying to take pictures but I could not get the right angle. So when the other chick came out I tossed her my cell phone. She thought it was already on video and was just holding it instead of pressing the button to do photos. Oh well fuck that.
We all got in bed together and the ring leader was getting messages from a beautiful White chick. She said that she missed her and asked when she was going to see her again. I said what the fuck and who is that? She said a married lady from Germany. I said why do you miss her? She said because we are lesbians! Say no more. Let's get this show on the road! We were having relations 6 ways to Sunday. The ring leader's pussy would not dry up for anything, but I finally had to stop and try the quiet chick on for size. For some reason I liked her more.
When the deed was done I slept in the middle with a girl in each arm with both their heads on my chest, thinking that heaven must be like this. That is when I realized that this queen size bed is not meant for 3 people. (I have done it before, but I guess it did not register.) No fucking space and I woke up sweating.
I left them in my room while I went to the ATM. When I got back on my bike it would not start. Fucking battery. Well I have had this one for almost 7 years so we had a pretty good run. Luckily the ATM that I went to was only about 100 meters from my place. I pushed my bike home and took my battery upstairs to charge it. I gave the girls 1200 each for what was a perfect show, and let them go about their way after the quiet one exchanged phone numbers and Line IDs with me. Then I headed to my mechanic and got a new battery for 650 baht.
Gin And Tonic
10-30-16, 05:11
For 1, the ATM on Soi 8 ate my cousin's card.That happened to me years ago in P. V. Since then I only go to machines attached to a walk in bank.
CharmingGuy1
10-30-16, 05:17
Some tour operator said that Bangkok is the place to be and that I can skip Pattaya. That is why I made this blunder of spending little less than 1 day in Pattaya. But thanks to a friend who insisted that I must leave Bangkok and go to Pattaya, I did so during the last day just before my return. I was with a friend. This was back in 2014 by the way.
Now I am a guy with limp sword. We made evening plans to go to walking street. We went and it was raining a bit. Some of the classy places did not allow us to go inside (typical racist behavior), I forgot the name of these places, but these were the ones where russians were dancing, where hot wax dropping on body, dart throwing and where BDSM happens. Anyways since we can't control those things, we looked for places where we were allowed. We entered a bar with female fat mamasan. She was aggressive and wanted me to buy a beer ASAP. I did and sat down. I saw a cylindrical glass house with a goddess dancing nude in it and rubbing soapy bubbles over her body. She was such a beauty that I have not seen anyone like her till date. I wanted to take her but I am shy and she was costly for short time so I did not. I think her price was around 2500 bht for few minutes.
Then I went to Devil's Den, just for the heck of it. I had heard of a lot of positive reviews about it. But alas, they were not for me (or my ethnicity to be precise). I went there and found that only few girls were there and they were not so good looking. But since it was my last day in Thailand, I spent 3500 bht and chose 2 girls. Now the allowed time is 90 minutes. But when I started, they were so disengaged and straight faced, that it turned me off. Sparking a conversation did not help. I tried a few positions but I just felt bad with their mechanical and disengaging attitude. I stopped it, washed myself and left. Before leaving, I met the manager there (a healthy american) and he kind of sympathized with me saying that since they were WGs, they may have been mechanical! But it was a waste of my precious money to be honest.
Thus came the end of my short trip to the land of goddesses.
Hope you liked the report.
Got a funny story about cards.
This past summer, I was in Phuket training Muay Thai. I went by taxi from Chalong to Patong. It's about 30 minutes if you are lucky.
I went down to Patong and had a great time. I got hammered, enjoyed the gogo's, and made new friends. I took my cards and some cash with me.
I got back to my room about 2 am And passed out. I woke up in the morning to find that my cards were missing. I fully recall having them in the gogo's, so I assume they fell out in the taxi on the way back.
I'm super lucky that I had cash as a backup, otherwise I would have been royally screwed. I ended up having enough cash to stay for the rest of my trip, but if I had relied solely on cards, I would have starved to death.
I'm also really lucky that no one found those cards and ran up charges on them before I could cancel them.
I've learned my lesson, my cards stay in the room with my passport. Cash in my pockets only! (besides condoms).
Here is a list of prices I paid for girls during my one month stay in Pattaya in Sept 2016. I don't do go-go or beer bar girls, just Beach Rd FL's and girls in lower budget massage joints around Soi Buakao mainly.
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Surprisingly I ended up with quite a lot of 40 something year old girls And they were all pretty good lays (and of course better attitudes).
The 1000 baht Beach Rd FL's were very pretty and thin. These would not lower their price so I decided to pay up. One couldn't take a cock (and asked for money in advance-but I didn't oblige), but the other loved sex and couldn't get enough.
I took a walk one time along Soi6 and there were so many girls there. Some quite attractive. I have never taken a Soi 6 girl before but I think next trip I will pay up and look for a few gems here as it is hard to find something attractive on Beach Rd and in the low budget massage parlors.Thanks for the informative detailed report, Franga.
I'm wondering if there is a hotel near to the Beach Road that would compare to Nana Hotel in Bangkok, which is within a few blocks of a supermarket or two, banks, seven eleven stores & such? Especially one that is close to the best location for freelancers on the Beach Road.
Regarding soi 6, what type of ladies are available there? Massage? Bar? Street walking freelancers? Are they available for take out to a hotel at reasonable cost?
Cheers.
This tender story will give inspiration to every Thai hooker and every poor little Thai farm girl from Isaan to come to Pattaya to find her pot of gold.
Congratulations and thank you Harold. Your kindness and understanding will keep the buses from Isaan to Pattaya filled with stary eyed young gold diggers to satisfy our mongering pleasure.
http://pattayaone.news/en/thai-porn-star-says-buddhism-helped-find-husband-harold/
I went to 808 with another board member who I met in Colombia. It was his first time in Thailand. As soon as we walked in he tried to walk around the club. I immediately stopped him saying let me show you how I do things. 10 out of 10 newbies are going to get on the first thing they see instead of checking out the scene first.
I was sitting there peering off into the distance trying to see what I could see, and this chick pops up out of nowhere and punched me in the dick. So the chick is just standing there between my legs talking away while I am still looking around trying to find other chicks. Then I hear those magic words from her lips: "Do you want two girls?" Upon hearing that I give the chicks a closer visual inspection before responding with, "Don't mind if I do. ".
She said up to you. I said no you tell me first. She said 2000. I said 1000. She said okay. I said well talk to your friend (who still had not said 1 word) and ask if that is okay with her. She said you talk to her. 1000 is for me and whatever you work out with her is up to you. So I pulled the friend over and told her the payment plan. She agrees.
I gave the girls 1200 eachYou're absolutely right. These are definitely 1000 baht girls.
Banana Boi
10-30-16, 10:39
You could check the new KitCat Lounge Club. But is in Jomtien. LOL.Visited KitCat Lounge just now and it is closed for renovations. Good timing. Anyone know if Kit Cat is like Kinnaree and is open late but the girls leave at 7 pm? Site says it is open from 3-11 pm.
Christian G
10-30-16, 10:46
Visited KitCat Lounge just now and it is closed for renovations. WOW they just open less than 2 months ago, and they are already close for renovations LOL.
You're absolutely right. These are definitely 1000 baht girls.And you probably can't find them / get them?
Thanks for the informative detailed report, Franga.
I'm wondering if there is a hotel near to the Beach Road that would compare to Nana Hotel in Bangkok, which is within a few blocks of a supermarket or two, banks, seven eleven stores & such? Especially one that is close to the best location for freelancers on the Beach Road.
Regarding soi 6, what type of ladies are available there? Massage? Bar? Street walking freelancers? Are they available for take out to a hotel at reasonable cost?
Cheers.There are exchanges, ATMs, 7-11's and drug stores everywhere all along BR. Not sure about supermarkets!
Soi 6 has about everything other than freelancers. Most Soi 6 girls are not exactly attractive, but there are nearly always a few gems you can find and you may just have to walk back and forth a time or two. Most all will do long time for 2000 TB or so, though if you get them in the afternoon it won't get you an overnight stay. Mostly, Soi 6 is one long chain of bars, I. E. Brothels. Nothing else like it in the world I supposed. My favorite afternoon place to go. Some of the gems are as good as 90% of the WS gogo girls, at half the price.
There are a few ladyboys, mostly on the south side, so be careful.
I am curious as to why people are always bringing cash with them when there are these marvellous inventions called ATMs everywhere? Is it just a cultural thing? I know that debit cards are ubiquitous in Canada but not as much in the US and Europe, but not sure how people view them. Carrying cash is just so damn risky, especially scads of it. ATM fees aren't really that much of a bother for me either when doing the risk analysis as well, just take out more and it is a pittance!Or travelers cheques. Quite a few banks still cash them.
Juicyclamlover
10-31-16, 01:19
There are exchanges, ATMs, 7-11's and drug stores everywhere all along BR. Not sure about supermarkets!
Soi 6 has about everything other than freelancers. Most Soi 6 girls are not exactly attractive, but there are nearly always a few gems you can find and you may just have to walk back and forth a time or two. Most all will do long time for 2000 TB or so, though if you get them in the afternoon it won't get you an overnight stay. Mostly, Soi 6 is one long chain of bars, I. E. Brothels. Nothing else like it in the world I supposed. My favorite afternoon place to go. Some of the gems are as good as 90% of the WS gogo girls, at half the price.
There are a few ladyboys, mostly on the south side, so be careful.I beg to differ about not getting a Soi 6 girl LT in the afternoon, especially in the low season. I have had many girls stay LT when BFing them in the afternoons and most of them leave in the late morning to get ready for the next shift.
It's the usual case of if they like you, they will go with you.
If you make an effort to take them to places other than your room for the duration of the LT, then in my experience you get no trouble with repeats.
I beg to differ about not getting a Soi 6 girl LT in the afternoon, especially in the low season. I have had many girls stay LT when BFing them in the afternoons and most of them leave in the late morning to get ready for the next shift.
It's the usual case of if they like you, they will go with you.
If you make an effort to take them to places other than your room for the duration of the LT, then in my experience you get no trouble with repeats.Good to know. My research in LT is limited and the time or two I did they left after a few hours. Funny, one time I LT'd a girl just to go to my hotel and take a nap with me. I was very tired and feeling a little lonely and depressed (yeah, pathetic I know. In Pattaya and being lonely and depressed!) and we both nestled together and fell asleep.
But many of those girls are likely homesick and depressed and being asked to go out and actually do fun, nonsexual things should bring them some happiness which, one hopes, will be returned when you do get to the hotel. On my next trip, in just one week, I plan to ask a few out for the entire day and go do normal stuff, so I am glad to hear that they might indeed spend a full day / night.
Gin And Tonic
10-31-16, 04:12
Thanks for the informative detailed report, Franga.
I'm wondering if there is a hotel near to the Beach Road that would compare to Nana Hotel in Bangkok, which is within a few blocks of a supermarket or two, banks, seven eleven stores & such? Especially one that is close to the best location for freelancers on the Beach Road.
Regarding soi 6, what type of ladies are available there? Massage? Bar? Street walking freelancers? Are they available for take out to a hotel at reasonable cost?
Cheers.There is a grocery store in the basement floor of Central Festival Mall on Beach Road. It has a Hilton attached to it also.
Gin And Tonic
10-31-16, 04:22
Good to know. My research in LT is limited and the time or two I did they left after a few hours. Funny, one time I LT'd a girl just to go to my hotel and take a nap with me. I was very tired and feeling a little lonely and depressed (yeah, pathetic I know. In Pattaya and being lonely and depressed!) and we both nestled together and fell asleep.
But many of those girls are likely homesick and depressed and being asked to go out and actually do fun, nonsexual things should bring them some happiness which, one hopes, will be returned when you do get to the hotel. On my next trip, in just one week, I plan to ask a few out for the entire day and go do normal stuff, so I am glad to hear that they might indeed spend a full day / night.Take them shopping if you want them to be that kind of grateful. Bua Khao Market daytime on Tues. & Fri. And Thep Prasit Market after 17:00 on Fri., sat & sun are good spots.
Banana Boi
10-31-16, 07:57
There is a grocery store in the basement floor of Central Festival Mall on Beach Road. It has a Hilton attached to it also.Also Villla Market at Avenue Mall right beside Baraquda Hotel. Big see at Soi 2. All 3 including Central Market at Central Festival mall are along 2nd Road. 2 minute walk to Beach Road and on the baht bus route. I don't believe there is a major supermarket on Beach Road. Pinkpearl, sounds like you want to be near Central Festival mall. Beach road freelancers main area is from Soi 7 to Soi 13/2 but can be found from Soi 1 to Walking Street.
I am curious as to why people are always bringing cash with them when there are these marvellous inventions called ATMs everywhere? Is it just a cultural thing? I know that debit cards are ubiquitous in Canada but not as much in the US and Europe, but not sure how people view them. Carrying cash is just so damn risky, especially scads of it. ATM fees aren't really that much of a bother for me either when doing the risk analysis as well, just take out more and it is a pittance!I always use cash only in Thailand. One evening I did not have enough Thai baht and my location was far from any exchange place so I took 5000 baht from an ATM. The Thai bank took 200 baht and my bank charged me 350 plus the exchange rate was lower. Overall they took more than 10% of my money. I can eat a good meal for less than 100 baht in the food court in Terminal 21, I could get a very good meal in a Japanese restaurant in Gateway, or it could be 1/3 the price of a very good time with a very cute girl in Ruby bar Soi 6 for example. The counterpart is that I have to be very careful with my money as I am with my passport or my credit card.
Gin And Tonic
10-31-16, 20:31
Also Villla Market at Avenue Mall right beside Baraquda Hotel. Big see at Soi 2. All 3 including Central Market at Central Festival mall are along 2nd Road. 2 minute walk to Beach Road and on the baht bus route. I don't believe there is a major supermarket on Beach Road. Pinkpearl, sounds like you want to be near Central Festival mall. Beach road freelancers main area is from Soi 7 to Soi 13/2 but can be found from Soi 1 to Walking Street.Villa Market is very good for western food products.
Member #4698
10-31-16, 20:42
This has been reported many times in the ISG by myself and other savvy travelers. The Charles Schwab NO FEE Debit ATM cards. Just conduct an advance search or click on the link below.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/search.php?searchid=2404084
Banana Boi
10-31-16, 20:49
The Charles Schwab NO FEE Debit ATM cards. I believe this is in USA. Unfortunately, not available where I am from.
Member #4698
10-31-16, 20:52
I believe this is in USA. Unfortunately, not available where I am from.This is probably true BB as far as the Charles Schwab card is concerned. But I know there is a certain European no fee ATM card as well. Unfortunately I can't recall the bank. Perhaps another board member can supply this information.
Koperen Klaas
10-31-16, 21:36
This is probably true BB as far as the Charles Schwab card is concerned. But I know there is a certain European no fee ATM card as well. Unfortunately I can't recall the bank. Perhaps another board member can supply this information.ING bank supplied a no fee card when you also had a credit card. Unfortunately it is no longer free, but fees are modest. You need to unblock the card for non-European use before leaving your home country.
Regards,
Ko.
This is probably true BB as far as the Charles Schwab card is concerned. But I know there is a certain European no fee ATM card as well. Unfortunately I can't recall the bank. Perhaps another board member can supply this information.Not anymore, unfortunately, Citibank was the last to join the club of the 200 Baht transaction fees robbers.
Eszpresszo
11-01-16, 04:32
I always use cash only in Thailand. One evening I did not have enough Thai baht and my location was far from any exchange place so I took 5000 baht from an ATM. The Thai bank took 200 baht and my bank charged me 350 plus the exchange rate was lower. Overall they took more than 10% of my money. I can eat a good meal for less than 100 baht in the food court in Terminal 21, I could get a very good meal in a Japanese restaurant in Gateway, or it could be 1/3 the price of a very good time with a very cute girl in Ruby bar Soi 6 for example. The counterpart is that I have to be very careful with my money as I am with my passport or my credit card.That is a timely post, because I am thinking this situation out, prior to leaving for BKK in four weeks. Here is my currency management breakdown:
Take quite a bit of my budgeted cash in pristine $50 and $100 bills, and stash those with AMEX and VISA credit cards in an undergarment money belt for transit purposes. Keeping my debit card and a little bit of traveling cash in my wallet. Taking a large denomination travelers check in the event of an emergency, when cash is gone and ATMs are not a viable option (I had occasional issues in both Berlin and Medellin this past year with my Yanqui credit union debit card. I found ATMs that would accept it, but there was some inconvenience, running around and lost time involved). Yeah I know about the 153 baht vig, but its to be used in emergency situations, or otherwise cashed back home. Make debit card withdrawals judiciously and in large amounts. Keep only what I need to use in a day in my wallet, and keep the rest in hotel safe.
Leave enough cash for ST in my room in a unlikely location (we discussed this on the Medellin thread once, about stashing cash where hotel staff, prostitutes or thieves are unlikely to look). Keep an extra amount of cash in my leather belt with its hidden zipper in the inner lining.
Go ahead and laugh, but I stashed $50 bills under the insoles of my shoes when I went to Medellin last fall. I went back home with money in my shoes. Anyone else have other ideas or suggestions for traveling with cash?
Big see at Soi 2.If you talk about BigC North Pattaya, it does not exist anymore. All that area (from BigC to to the Dolphin roundabout) is down. It seems like they are building a huge Terminal 21 over there. It's a pity as it was the best area of north Pattaya in my opinion.
I always use cash only in Thailand. One evening I did not have enough Thai baht and my location was far from any exchange place so I took 5000 baht from an ATM. The Thai bank took 200 baht and my bank charged me 350 plus the exchange rate was lower. Overall they took more than 10% of my money.That sucks. This is the reason to make a large ATM withdrawal if you are being charged a fee.
Does anyone know the current ATM withdrawal limit per transaction? I believe it used to based on the number of notes a machine could dispense per transaction; somewhere between 25 and 30, so 25 k-30 k baht. You also need to make sure your financial institution approves a transaction of that amount.
SL.
That sucks. This is the reason to make a large ATM withdrawal if you are being charged a fee.
Does anyone know the current ATM withdrawal limit per transaction? I believe it used to based on the number of notes a machine could dispense per transaction; somewhere between 25 and 30, so 25 k-30 k baht. You also need to make sure your financial institution approves a transaction of that amount.
SL.Most banks the max is 20 k bht, but TMB will give you 30. ATM's here charge 200 bht per transaction. My Schwab Bank refunds the fee and the exchange rate is good.
That is a timely post, because I am thinking this situation out, prior to leaving for BKK in four weeks. Here is my currency management breakdown:
Take quite a bit of my budgeted cash in pristine $50 and $100 bills, and stash those with AMEX and VISA credit cards in an undergarment money belt for transit purposes. Keeping my debit card and a little bit of traveling cash in my wallet. Taking a large denomination travelers check in the event of an emergency, when cash is gone and ATMs are not a viable option (I had occasional issues in both Berlin and Medellin this past year with my Yanqui credit union debit card. I found ATMs that would accept it, but there was some inconvenience, running around and lost time involved). Yeah I know about the 153 baht vig, but its to be used in emergency situations, or otherwise cashed back home. Make debit card withdrawals judiciously and in large amounts. Keep only what I need to use in a day in my wallet, and keep the rest in hotel safe.
Leave enough cash for ST in my room in a unlikely location (we discussed this on the Medellin thread once, about stashing cash where hotel staff, prostitutes or thieves are unlikely to look). Keep an extra amount of cash in my leather belt with its hidden zipper in the inner lining.
Go ahead and laugh, but I stashed $50 bills under the insoles of my shoes when I went to Medellin last fall. I went back home with money in my shoes. Anyone else have other ideas or suggestions for traveling with cash?Forget about bringing 50's. Bring the new series 100's in pristine condition. That way you can carry more of them. It is difficult here in Thailand to exchange the older series 100's.
Carry a credit card on you at all times and stash your ATM card separate from your cash in your room. Like cash in safe and ATM locked in suitcase. If you loose your credit card, easy to cancel. Lose your ATM and you are screwed if you need extra cash. Only carry it when you are going to get cash and be sure to put a travel notification on them.
Also over here you don't have money or a credit card on your person, if you get hurt and go to the hospital you better have a buddy with money or a credit card with you. The good hospitals won't touch you without proof of ability to pay.
I got a concussion and went to the hospital. They wanted 25000 deposit before they would see me. I didn't have 25000 bht on me but I had my ATM card. They put me in a wheel chair and wheeled me to the ATM Machine in the lobby. LOL.
Ever tried to remember a PIN number with a Concussion?
So far Devil's Den x 2, the second better than the first but I think I'm going to change my name to Cum Baby as all four girls there kept calling me it.
Honey 1 soapy massage x 1, this was OK but the soapy bit could have been longer, done in an hour.
Finally went into an gogo on LK Metro, as fate would have it I was seated next to a fun girl so finally ended up going back to my hotel with a girl. It was a nice time with her but it's a lot of paraphernalia to go through just for one shag.
Tonight I went down to Walking Street, a bit livelier than LK Metro, went into Windmill Club as I've read a lot about the place, what a total disappointment it was so lame. Had a look upstairs exactly the same so it was one beer and back to the Hotel.
This is the reason to make a large ATM withdrawal if you are being charged a fee.
SL.A big withdrawal will save a few 200 baht that the Thai bank takes, but still my bank takes a percentage (not a fixed fee) of my withdrawal. I think that it's something like 6 or 7 percent of the withdrawal. That's the main reason I prefer to keep the ATM card only for emergency.
That is a timely post, because I am thinking this situation out, prior to leaving for BKK in four weeks. Here is my currency management breakdown:
Take quite a bit of my budgeted cash in pristine $50 and $100 bills, and stash those with AMEX and VISA credit cards in an undergarment money belt for transit purposes. Keeping my debit card and a little bit of traveling cash in my wallet. Taking a large denomination travelers check in the event of an emergency, when cash is gone and ATMs are not a viable option (I had occasional issues in both Berlin and Medellin this past year with my Yanqui credit union debit card. I found ATMs that would accept it, but there was some inconvenience, running around and lost time involved). Yeah I know about the 153 baht vig, but its to be used in emergency situations, or otherwise cashed back home. Make debit card withdrawals judiciously and in large amounts. Keep only what I need to use in a day in my wallet, and keep the rest in hotel safe.
Leave enough cash for ST in my room in a unlikely location (we discussed this on the Medellin thread once, about stashing cash where hotel staff, prostitutes or thieves are unlikely to look). Keep an extra amount of cash in my leather belt with its hidden zipper in the inner lining.
Go ahead and laugh, but I stashed $50 bills under the insoles of my shoes when I went to Medellin last fall. I went back home with money in my shoes. Anyone else have other ideas or suggestions for traveling with cash?The advice from Tellall are good. I forgot to say that I also try to take as much 100 euros bills as I can, because the exchange rate is better and also it takes less space to carry. I would also recommend you to try to open a Thai bank account if Thailand is a place that you will visit again after that trip. It might be more difficult to open an account for a foreigner nowadays but it's worth it. I opened one around 3 years ago in the Kasikorn bank in soi buakao (Pattaya) and they didn't ask anything particular, and they knew that I'm not a resident in Thailand. The fee is 800 baht per year for the visa card and 15 baht per withdrawal but it's really worth it compared to the use of a foreign debit card.
Tonight I went down to Walking Street, a bit livelier than LK Metro, went into Windmill Club as I've read a lot about the place, what a total disappointment it was so lame. Had a look upstairs exactly the same so it was one beer and back to the Hotel.Was in Windmill last week and could only see one girl that looked OK, but not worth the 2000 + barfine + drinks though. Still the atmosphere in that place was a lot better than any others gogo in Pattaya, no annoying girls came to seat with me, nobody pushed me for more drinks and I think it's the only place we can still see girls being eaten out or fingered by customers on the stage.
Mr Enternational
11-01-16, 18:50
On The 6. Chick wants to come with me. She said bar fine 500 and 2000 for her. I told her that was too much. I will only give 1000. She tried for 1500. I said can not. Only 1000. She said okay. 500 for bar and 1000 for me but do not tell anybody. Now I only have 12 minutes to wait til the bar fine drops to 300. Now working on getting one for my brother at the same price. LOL. The adventures of Khun Keeneeowl.
Update: Waited unil past 1am but the bar fine did not drop. My brother had to pay 500 bar fine at the bar next door as well.
And for those from the States 'State Farm' (yes the insurance company) has State Farm Bank. No fees either, of any kind.
This has been reported many times in the ISG by myself and other savvy travelers. The Charles Schwab NO FEE Debit ATM cards. Just conduct an advance search or click on the link below.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/search.php?searchid=2404084
So far Devil's Den x 2, the second better than the first but I think I'm going to change my name to Cum Baby as all four girls there kept calling me it.Yes; the DD ladies can be like that. The reason IMO is they are a multi-pop shop. If you can happy happy more than once during the session, getting the first one out quickly gives you more time to recuperate. If you really want to build up for 1 good shot on goal tell them that and make it last.
The DD ladies do seem to have a mental check list of activities and tend to run thru them quickly; but at the end of the day you are in charge of the action, and the ladies are not mind readers.
SL.
I always use cash only in Thailand. One evening I did not have enough Thai baht and my location was far from any exchange place so I took 5000 baht from an ATM. The Thai bank took 200 baht and my bank charged me 350 plus the exchange rate was lower. Overall they took more than 10% of my money. I can eat a good meal for less than 100 baht in the food court in Terminal 21, I could get a very good meal in a Japanese restaurant in Gateway, or it could be 1/3 the price of a very good time with a very cute girl in Ruby bar Soi 6 for example. The counterpart is that I have to be very careful with my money as I am with my passport or my credit card.Its been awhile since I posted here.
I made the foolish mistake of using my CC at a gogo (sugar baby) bar last trip and found that they charged my card 2500 Baht extra after I left. I could have disputed the charge but decided to let it go. I have a credit card I use when traveling overseas with a relatively low credit limit to limit fraudulent charges. I also have a Citibank Debit card I only use for travel. I normally will take a certain amount of cash then use my Citibank card to withdraw funds if / when I run out.
My normal credit cards are only used to pay hotels.
Banana Boi
11-02-16, 04:37
Finally went into an gogo on LK Metro, as fate would have it I was seated next to a fun girl so finally ended up going back to my hotel with a girl. It was a nice time with her but it's a lot of paraphernalia to go through just for one shag.
Tonight I went down to Walking Street, a bit livelier than LK Metro, went into Windmill Club as I've read a lot about the place, what a total disappointment it was so lame. Had a look upstairs exactly the same so it was one beer and back to the Hotel.Sorry to the rest of you for repeating this but I must guide my fellow FKK friend here. If you want something that resembles a FKK where you grab a girl and fuck her then go to Kinnaree on a Wed-Sat. Go at 2:30 pm. Girls leave at 7 pm.
I have mentioned a few times here recently which gogo bars to go to currently. Lineups fluctuate greatly. Windmill IS NOT one of them. Sure it's dirty there (likely toned down now during mourning period) but no lookers. For pretty girls go to Sensations, Baccara. For more fun go to Ninja at LK and Sapphire.
As for DD, I'm pretty sure you're not going to find the GFE feel a Thai girl can give you at a meat market like that.
Jack Of Spades
11-02-16, 14:18
Last night was my first night back in town and I was keen to see what impact, if any the King's passing had made.
I started with a walk down Soi 7 and the place was wall to wall with girls. Most of the music was noticeably turned down (which isn't a bad thing) but other than that it was very much same same.
Next I took a wander down Beach Road and likewise the place was as expected full with freelancers of all ages, shapes and sizes waiting for some lovin.
I grabbed some food at a nice place I know down near walking street and then hit a few of the gogos including Sugarbabes, Alcatraz, Peppermint and Windmill. Other than the suggestion from staff that they now close around 2 am it was business as usual. Plenty of nudity in Sugarbabes and Windmill, and the talent was surprisingly good in Sugarbabes. It looks like they have put an effort into finding some new fresh talent.
One noticeable difference on Walking Street is the fact that a lot of the establishments including the open live music bars have the front part of the building covered with what I can only describe as drapes which I assume is an effort to keep the noise within.
At around midnight I checked out the Red Car Bar on Walking Street and the place was buzzing. Good music and a decent selection of freelancers. Hooked up with what I felt was a decent prospect relatively quickly and had a couple of beers before bringing her back to mine for a good night.
All in all there is relatively no impact from the King's passing. It remains business as usual.
JoS.
This is probably true BB as far as the Charles Schwab card is concerned. But I know there is a certain European no fee ATM card as well. Unfortunately I can't recall the bank. Perhaps another board member can supply this information.The DKB refunds withdrawls from their debit card, number of free withdrawls is limited to 10 or 20. Anybody in Pats after Nov 5th? Want to meet PM me. Staying at August Suites.
Go ahead and laugh, but I stashed $50 bills under the insoles of my shoes when I went to Medellin last fall. I went back home with money in my shoes. Anyone else have other ideas or suggestions for traveling with cash?I have to debit card accounts that are linked with the money split between the two, if I lose one card I can easily transfer funds to the other debit card. I keep one debit card as an emergency card, I'll tape it to the inside of my carryon with black tape. Also look inside your carry-on suitcase, some of the supports are hollowed out aluminum brackets. Wrap up 10 100's in some plastic, roll them tight and tape a bit of string to the end and push it into the hollow support. Tape the end of the string so you can retrieve it.
OlderMan4U
11-03-16, 02:27
On The 6. Chick wants to come with me. She said bar fine 500 and 2000 for her. I told her that was too much. I will only give 1000. She tried for 1500. I said can not. Only 1000. She said okay. 500 for bar and 1000 for me but do not tell anybody. Now I only have 12 minutes to wait til the bar fine drops to 300. Now working on getting one for my brother at the same price. LOL. The adventures of Khun Keeneeowl.
Update: Waited unil past 1am but the bar fine did not drop. My brother had to pay 500 bar fine at the bar next door as well.1000 baht for long time?
I have to debit card accounts that are linked with the money split between the two, if I lose one card I can easily transfer funds to the other debit card. I keep one debit card as an emergency card, I'll tape it to the inside of my carryon with black tape. Also look inside your carry-on suitcase, some of the supports are hollowed out aluminum brackets. Wrap up 10 100's in some plastic, roll them tight and tape a bit of string to the end and push it into the hollow support. Tape the end of the string so you can retrieve it.That is an excellent idea about the suitcase. I prepare for the worst and use a back up systems. I carry two different debit cards from two different banks. Plus, if I am going for 3 weeks. I bring $3000 in cash. I at least need $1000 a week if something goes wrong with my cards. My buddy had his card eaten by a Thai ATM and had to have money wired to him from the USA. He did not have cash for 24 hours because he only took what he needed for the day as he went and did not have back up. Also, sometimes there is a fluke with the card and it just does not work. Not saying it will happen but I am prepared if it does not. I only carry one card with me, the other in the room and always carry all cash with me. I stay in cheap Thai hotels close to the action. They sometimes have safes in the room. But I have zero confidence in those safes.
I have to debit card accounts that are linked with the money split between the two, if I lose one card I can easily transfer funds to the other debit card. I keep one debit card as an emergency card, I'll tape it to the inside of my carryon with black tape. Also look inside your carry-on suitcase, some of the supports are hollowed out aluminum brackets. Wrap up 10 100's in some plastic, roll them tight and tape a bit of string to the end and push it into the hollow support.Breadman: Better hope nobody steals your carry-on. Why not keep your money in the room safe? I use the Schwab debit card to keep costs down. I always keep enough cash for one day of spending plus the next day. If somebody breaks into my hotel safe I will at most lose one day of vacation funds. That would not ruin my trip. For those without a Schwab-like credit card why not bring some Traveler check's. Thailand is one of few countries where traveler checks are widely (and easily) accepted.
Banana Boi
11-03-16, 05:56
I started with a walk down Soi 7 and the place was wall to wall with girls. I walked around quite a bit last night and it was almost like the flood of girls just came in this past week. There are seemingly new girls at every bar and massage place. Problem with high season is girls are looking for tourist prices. Was quoted 2000 for an hour by a very cute girl at Home Massage on 13/2. Quoted 1500 by a cute one on lowly Soi 25! WTF!
Hit my favorite gogo bar at LK Metro. I was there only a week ago and the number of girls have doubled. Not since June have I seen this many girls there.
Enjoy.
Mr Enternational
11-03-16, 06:33
Problem with high season is girls are looking for tourist prices. Was quoted 2000 for an hour by a very cute girl at Home Massage on 13/2. Quoted 1500 by a cute one on lowly Soi 25! WTF!No problem at all. It does not matter what they are looking for or what you are quoted. It only matters what you negotiate.
Banana Boi
11-03-16, 06:37
I don't bother negotiating if the starting price is ridiculous. Too many other girls around. All worked out I met a fantastic brand new gogo girl only an hour later.
I don't bother negotiating if the starting price is ridiculous. Too many other girls around. All worked out I met a fantastic brand new gogo girl only an hour later.You may want to try never allowing them to propose the price and terms first. IMO, when they start at a higher price some (not all) may feel that they lose face if they take, for example, half what they originally proposed or started with.
Now, I am not someone who is into Go- Go places. So YMMV.
I am talking about freelancers. In Latin America, for expample, I never discuss price ahead of time. If they bring up the subject, I quickly say thanks and move on. But, I do this online after engaging with them for 1-2 months in small conversation every week or two.
At Insomnia, I usually talk for a minute, to qualify up close, then offer to buy a drink, and if I am still interested, start out by saying 1,500 LT (cause I do not do ST, except for massage girls who visit me at my condo). They will then dismiss me, walk away, or say yes, or propose 2,000 or 2,500 . And if I want to I may go to 2,000 LT.
But, please note that I only enter Insomnia after 12, and usually do not propose anything to any girl until at least 3 am. So, again YMMV, and you may not be interested in just hanging around for such a long time, as I do.
But, IMO, the key is to always control the negotiation. Do not ask or allow them to start first. You start with the terms, be (or appear to be) firm. I never go over 2,000 LT. Because they will then talk amongst themselves. And, I will have set a precedent for the next few days.
Also, important to note that I usually look, observe and carefully evaluate 'a priori ' for 3 day min GFE potential. If I don't see that, then I have zero interest. And, as I have noted before, if they are better than my expectation, then I will slip them more than what I agreed to, take them shopping etc. But, I also look to see if they count in my presence. If they do, then I do not repeat. If they don't, then I probably will. We all have our approaches. This is what works best for me. I avoid aggressive girls and generally avoid anyone who tries to approach me directly vs. slowly and indirectly. One way IMO to tell a true freelancer.
Gin And Tonic
11-03-16, 08:14
I walked around quite a bit last night and it was almost like the flood of girls just came in this past week. There are seemingly new girls at every bar and massage place. Problem with high season is girls are looking for tourist prices. Was quoted 2000 for an hour by a very cute girl at Home Massage on 13/2. Quoted 1500 by a cute one on lowly Soi 25! WTF!
Hit my favorite gogo bar at LK Metro. I was there only a week ago and the number of girls have doubled. Not since June have I seen this many girls there.
Enjoy.Give it some time high season did not start until Jan last year. Two or three weeks they will be bidding themselves down.
Plus, I imagine high season will be a bit slower this year. They'll be more willing to talk for a bit.
I've never negotiated with a girl. If she quotes too high of a price, I say no thanks and move on. If she quotes in the price range that this board agrees is right, I've usually said yes. Negotiating is a huge turn-off for me. I doubt I could even get hard after a bidding war with a girl. You should see their faces when I politely say no then walk away.
Banana Boi
11-03-16, 13:26
You may want to try never allowing them to propose the price and terms first. IMO, when they start at a higher price some (not all) may feel that they lose face if they take, for example, half what they originally proposed or started with.The only girls I ask for a price upfront are the massage girls. I don't want to waste both our times only to find out after 15 minutes we can't agree on a price for HJ, BJ, or FS.
Gogo girls we just go party, then sex and I pay for them to leave. Never had an issue but I am not a Cheap Charlie. I take care of my few regular girls. Not like the Japanese but I still take care of them.
Give it some time high season did not start until Jan last year. Two or three weeks they will be bidding themselves down.Not sure if you were out last night like I was. Girls are everywhere. Huge difference from even last week.
From a personal level, many of my girls are coming back now too. I have to decide which one of 3 who came back this week to see tonight. 2 of them will be hurt.
Banana Boi
11-03-16, 13:29
Visited Kinnaree this afternoon. A bit sleepy for a Thursday afternoon. About 10 fewer girls than on Saturday. Good thing was no room wait time so I was able to get 3 girls in instead of my usual 2.
Gin And Tonic
11-04-16, 01:49
The only girls I ask for a price upfront are the massage girls. I don't want to waste both our times only to find out after 15 minutes we can't agree on a price for HJ, BJ, or FS.
Gogo girls we just go party, then sex and I pay for them to leave. Never had an issue but I am not a Cheap Charlie. I take care of my few regular girls. Not like the Japanese but I still take care of them.
Not sure if you were out last night like I was. Girls are everywhere. Huge difference from even last week.
From a personal level, many of my girls are coming back now too. I have to decide which one of 3 who came back this week to see tonight. 2 of them will be hurt.I was talking about the influx of customers not girls. Had to go back to the great white north for a few months.
Previously, I bought pseudo generic Viagra (made in India) in Cambodia.
A board member here mentioned that you can get legal generic Viagra in Thailand. Pfizer's patent expired in Thailand. Hence you have legal generic Viagra (Sidegra) in Thailand. This is the way to go. The pseudo generic Viagra, made in India, seems not as potent as the real Viagra. I heard sometimes they are duds. I do not trust the quality control of the pirate factories in India.
Another site mentioned that you can get Sidegra at MSRP prices (100 Baht for pack of four 50 MG pills; 180 Baht for a pack of four 100 MG pills) at a pharmacy couple of stores up from McDonald's on Suk near Nana Plaza. Last year, info and pills were good.
Pharmacies in the tourist area in Pattaya are asking about twice those prices.
I need to stock up before I travel around.
Does anyone know of a pharmacy in Pattaya that will charge Bangkok prices for Sidegra?
Thanks.
Previously, I bought pseudo generic Viagra (made in India) in Cambodia..Just FWIW, there's nothing pseudo about the generic sildenafil sold in reputable pharmacies in Cambodia. Kamagra, for example, is made by Ajanta, a big, reliable pharma company. Sidegra is fine but in my experience no better, and it's considerably more expensive. So I always stock up when I'm in Phnom Penh.
Banana Boi
11-04-16, 08:14
I was talking about the influx of customers not girls. Had to go back to the great white north for a few months.Clubs seem pretty full of guys imo the last couple of days. No seats in some clubs I visited which had been fairly empty the past couple of months.
Jack Of Spades
11-04-16, 14:38
Clubs seem pretty full of guys imo the last couple of days. No seats in some clubs I visited which had been fairly empty the past couple of months.Hit a few gogo bars on Walking Street last night including Happy and Baccara and they were all pretty much jammed with guys and girls.
Walking Street itself was pretty full with the usual mix for mongers, girls and gawking tourists.
I walked around quite a bit last night and it was almost like the flood of girls just came in this past week. There are seemingly new girls at every bar and massage place. Problem with high season is girls are looking for tourist prices. Was quoted 2000 for an hour by a very cute girl at Home Massage on 13/2. Quoted 1500 by a cute one on lowly Soi 25! WTF!
Hit my favorite gogo bar at LK Metro. I was there only a week ago and the number of girls have doubled. Not since June have I seen this many girls there.
Enjoy.Excellent news, as I will be there Monday!
I walked around quite a bit last night and it was almost like the flood of girls just came in this past week. There are seemingly new girls at every bar and massage place. Problem with high season is girls are looking for tourist prices. Was quoted 2000 for an hour by a very cute girl at Home Massage on 13/2. Quoted 1500 by a cute one on lowly Soi 25! WTF!
Hit my favorite gogo bar at LK Metro. I was there only a week ago and the number of girls have doubled. Not since June have I seen this many girls there.
Enjoy.Banana Boi,
When you say "The problem with high season girls are looking for tourist prices? That is wrong. Then people would think in the low season the price goes down. Right. That is wrong. What you and many people think makes sense if you use logic. Thailand mind is a different world. Thailand's cheapest prices are in the high season. Because a girl starts to make money and they like any salesman likes the feeling of constant business and constant money coming in. The most expensive prices are in the low season. In the low season the woman try to raise their rates for lost business. In the high season if the girl smells you don't know the price or if you make the mistake of letting the girl name the price. She will ask for more then she won't want to lose face going down too much. But if you walk up with confidence and just say you do short time. Yes, 1000 baut lets go! That is it. If she has an issue that is the starting rate. With freelancers that is fine. With outdoor bar girls but you also have to pay bar fine. Now if you are trying to take out a indoor bar girl it will be a little more expensive. If you go to a gogo then that is more expensive and service is questionable because during high season they want to finish with you as fast as possible and get back to the club for next short time. A go go girls during slow season is a little better and not as rushed.
I will be in Thailand next month! Can't wait.
Previously, I bought pseudo generic Viagra (made in India) in Cambodia.
A board member here mentioned that you can get legal generic Viagra in Thailand. Pfizer's patent expired in Thailand. Hence you have legal generic Viagra (Sidegra) in Thailand. This is the way to go. The pseudo generic Viagra, made in India, seems not as potent as the real Viagra. I heard sometimes they are duds. I do not trust the quality control of the pirate factories in India.
Another site mentioned that you can get Sidegra at MSRP prices (100 Baht for pack of four 50 MG pills; 180 Baht for a pack of four 100 MG pills) at a pharmacy couple of stores up from McDonald's on Suk near Nana Plaza. Last year, info and pills were good.
Pharmacies in the tourist area in Pattaya are asking about twice those prices.
I need to stock up before I travel around.
Does anyone know of a pharmacy in Pattaya that will charge Bangkok prices for Sidegra?
Thanks.Only a fool buys drugs while on vacation and hopes they work as planned. I know two of them, one guy passed out the one night after taking a pill and the other guy had to be taken to the hospital the following night after taking another one of those suckers. You wait so long for a trip, pay so much on hotels and airfare yet your going to let your vacation hinge on the quality of drugs your going to buy from a pharmacy in another country. I understand that some guys are forced to buy it on the fly since they have a significant other at home who would question why he was packing 20 blue pills in his carryon for a business trip. I would highly suggest you try other avenue's to aquire said drugs while at home to get an idea which one's are worth rebuying and which ones to avoid after a trip to the ER. An ER at home is much better than an ER in Pattaya.
Only a fool buys drugs while on vacation and hopes they work as planned. I know two of them, one guy passed out the one night after taking a pill and the other guy had to be taken to the hospital the following night after taking another one of those suckers. You wait so long for a trip, pay so much on hotels and airfare yet your going to let your vacation hinge on the quality of drugs your going to buy from a pharmacy in another country. I understand that some guys are forced to buy it on the fly since they have a significant other at home who would question why he was packing 20 blue pills in his carryon for a business trip. I would highly suggest you try other avenue's to aquire said drugs while at home to get an idea which one's are worth rebuying and which ones to avoid after a trip to the ER. An ER at home is much better than an ER in Pattaya.While I agree with your overall message of safety considerations, I disagree with your overall condemnation of pharmaceuticals in foreign countries.
I've taken steroids, acne meds, and Cialis while overseas and have never had any problems. This next trip, I'll try those Kamagra jelly packs because they are cheaper than other things.
The key is to be fully educated on what to buy, how much it costs, where to buy it, and how to spot bad product. Just like with the ladies!
Only a fool buys drugs while on vacation and hopes they work as planned.I disagree. The fool here is the one that did not understand what was written and/or did not understand what Sidegra/Viagra is.
I was asking about LEGAL, legit generic Sildenafil (Sidegra), which is EXACTLY the same as Viagra. I have a prescription for Viagra in the US.
I trust (should I?) the Thailand "system" for Sildenfil. I am assuming the Thai "system" will not allow the drug companies to supply the Thai males with dangerous fakes. Thailand is not China.
- There was nudity on Overmind go-go (the old Shark go-go). They even added a bath tub (naked show in a tub).
- Super Silver 2 go-go on Soi 7 had nudity. Same as before. I like this club. Raunchy and fun! I especially like this club because after the dancers (not all dancers are nude) dance naked on stage, they stay naked after they leave the stage. A lot of fondling (if you want) with the customers. In other bars (previously), it seems the dancers put on their bikinis after their shift on stage.
- Several other go-gos around Walking Street, which previously had nudity, were fully clothed (my definition. The girls were in bikinis).
Gin And Tonic
11-05-16, 00:12
Only a fool buys drugs while on vacation and hopes they work as planned. I know two of them, one guy passed out the one night after taking a pill and the other guy had to be taken to the hospital the following night after taking another one of those suckers. You wait so long for a trip, pay so much on hotels and airfare yet your going to let your vacation hinge on the quality of drugs your going to buy from a pharmacy in another country. I understand that some guys are forced to buy it on the fly since they have a significant other at home who would question why he was packing 20 blue pills in his carryon for a business trip. I would highly suggest you try other avenue's to aquire said drugs while at home to get an idea which one's are worth rebuying and which ones to avoid after a trip to the ER. An ER at home is much better than an ER in Pattaya.Absolutely clueless. Take a tour of BKK-Pattaya Hospital ER and tell us your hometown hospitals measure up. As for pecker pills I'm still walking around after having taken 100's just like many 1,000's of other expats in the area. What are you a drug salesman?
Many reputable Indian pharmaceutical firms, including some giants, produce quality generics. If Kamagra doesn't lift you up, find another hobby.
LittleBigMan
11-05-16, 01:54
Absolutely clueless. Take a tour of BKK-Pattaya Hospital ER and tell us your hometown hospitals measure up. As for pecker pills I'm still walking around after having taken 100's just like many 1,000's of other expats in the area. What are you a drug salesman?I disagree from experience. This is how I felt when I first came to Thailand particularly to Pattaya. When it comes to this particular Hospital and do not get me wrong I would use it for a emergency and have but do not think for a minute because it looks like a 5 star hotel and they attend to you with all the staff available that you are getting the proper diagnosis? Do not get me wrong they are better than many countries but after what I have experience I have a greater appreciation for our medical system and would feel comfortable in any ER in the States.
This discussion with hospital shouldn't be linked to pecker pill.
Mr Enternational
11-05-16, 04:35
When it comes to this particular Hospital and do not get me wrong I would use it for a emergency and have but do not think for a minute because it looks like a 5 star hotel and they attend to you with all the staff available that you are getting the proper diagnosis? Do not get me wrong they are better than many countries but after what I have experience I have a greater appreciation for our medical system and would feel comfortable in any ER in the States.
This discussion with hospital shouldn't be linked to pecker pill.Exactly. I trust the drugs here. But drugs are one thing; proper medical care is another. When I hurt my foot in Koh Tao last year I was taken to the clinic. As the doctor was getting ready to sew it up she said I wonder if it is broken. I don't know a got damn thing about medicine, but said well shouldn't you xray it before stitching it up? She said yes you are right. When I got back to Pattaya and unwrapped it, it was fucked up under the bottom and I went right to the new hospital. They gave me IV antibiotics and wanted me to stay, but I remember my friends telling me the exorbitant costs for staying. Since I live 2 minutes from the place I told them I would just come back the next day. They were pissed. The next two days they gave me the same IV antibiotics and said okay bye; not telling me anything else.
So I went to my regular doctor in Pattaya and for the next 6 days he gave me an antibiotic injection in my ass saying that my foot would heal in 2 weeks. 6 days went by and no improvement. My family insisted that I come back to the states for treatment. Good thing I fucking did, or I would have been less 1 foot today. It was a crush would where blood vessels had burst inside and the fluid sitting inside had started to kill the tissue. They had to cut out that part of my foot and regrow it using modern medicine.
A few years ago my cousin had a motorcycle accident on Pattaya Tai. That cheap ass helmet flew off his head. The ambulance came and got him. He was pretty fucked up. Well he is back home now and the other day he was telling me they are saying there is something wrong with his brain from that accident and they need to go in and do surgery.
For little shit like a cold or to turn a man into a woman then Thailand is okay. But for big shit you better take your ass back home. There is a reason many expats make a yearly pilgrimage back home to see the doctor.
Banana Boi
11-05-16, 06:06
For little shit like a cold or to turn a man into a woman then Thailand is okay. But for big shit you better take your ass back home. There is a reason many expats make a yearly pilgrimage back home to see the doctor.Sound advice.
Banana Boi
11-05-16, 06:08
- Several other go-gos around Walking Street, which previously had nudity, were fully clothed (my definition. The girls were in bikinis).Which ones did not have topless? Of the ones I have been to that usually have topless I can only think Ninja and Baccara are still bikinis. I may not have been paying enough attention though. I am usually with one of my regular girls at each bar.
Which ones did not have topless? Of the ones I have been to that usually have topless I can only think Ninja and Baccara are still bikinis.Topless only? In my definition, that isn't nudity. LOL!
First time back in about a year. Some of the names of the bars changed. Previously, if I recall correctly, in the bars that had "nudity", the girls had the option of going with bikinis, topless, or all nude. This determined their monthly salary. Are some bars just topless now?
Baby Dolls (on Soi 15) was previously one of if not the raunchiest go-go bar in Pattaya. I liked it when they carved a banana like a penis. After the customer was done with the penis shaped banana, he could eat either the banana or the pussy. I went in around 9 PM. It was empty and all the girls wore bikinis. I immediately left.
Went into Baccara. It was packed. Couldn't find a decent seat, so I left. The girls wore bikinis. Previously, I recall it wasn't fully nude, but didn't they wear that skirt without underwear. I find that alluring.
Went in another bar, glanced at couple of other bars. I thought the girls wore bikinis. Not positive, I wasn't paying 100% attention.
I'll do a better job of reporting when I drink away my brain cells in the next couple of days. I don't want to lose board member privileges. LOL!
RahulBoy05
11-05-16, 07:40
Hello friends,
I am coming to Pattaya for the first time by 26th November for 3-4 days. Planning to go to devil's den. If anybody in Pattaya at that time, I will be happy to meet up and explore.
Yes, please report back about the gogo situation. They are the biggest reason I go to Pattaya. If they all start going bikini, I'll be severely depressed.
Topless is okay by me. (though I prefer raunchier).
But full bikini just makes the whole thing seem juvenile.
Seeing and fondling hundreds of bare breasts makes my trips amazing!
Jack Of Spades
11-05-16, 09:04
Topless only? In my definition, that isn't nudity. LOL!
First time back in about a year. Some of the names of the bars changed. Previously, if I recall correctly, in the bars that had "nudity", the girls had the option of going with bikinis, topless, or all nude. This determined their monthly salary. Are some bars just topless now?
Baby Dolls (on Soi 15) was previously one of if not the raunchiest go-go bar in Pattaya. I liked it when they carved a banana like a penis. After the customer was done with the penis shaped banana, he could eat either the banana or the pussy. I went in around 9 PM. It was empty and all the girls wore bikinis. I immediately left.
Went into Baccara. It was packed. Couldn't find a decent seat, so I left. The girls wore bikinis. Previously, I recall it wasn't fully nude, but didn't they wear that skirt without underwear. I find that alluring.
Went in another bar, glanced at couple of other bars. I thought the girls wore bikinis. Not positive, I wasn't paying 100% attention.
I'll do a better job of reporting when I drink away my brain cells in the next couple of days. I don't want to lose board member privileges. LOL!A lot of these places will have girls in bikinis on stage for the most part, and then every so often they will do a more choreographed show where the girls get the tits out and also sometimes knickers off. Wish I could tell you where and when but it is kinda the luck of the draw.
If you want guaranteed nudity just hit up sugarbabes or windmill where you can have girls fisting each other if that is your thing 😊.
If you want guaranteed nudity just hit up sugarbabes or windmill where you can have girls fisting each other if that is your thing 😊.Yes, that is my thing. :)
- Sugar Baby Go-Go: My first bar of the night. When I entered the bar, the front stage had girls with bikini type of outfits. The girls and the support pillar were blocking the view of back which had a few small stages with naked girls. If anyone wants to buy this bar, I saw a sign at Windmill Go-Go offering Sugar Baby for sale at 15 Mil Baht (has 4 year lease).
- G-Spot: This bar has the best happy hour special with 45 Baht draft beers. Same as Sugar Baby. The front has bikini; the back has naked girls!
- Glass House: I entered and ordered a beer. The girls were in bikinis. Then near the end of their dance shift, the Thai guy said something on the speakers, and all the girls took off their tops. They left the bottom on. The second group never took off anything.
- Infinity: I entered and noticed all the girls were in bikinis. I left immediately.
- Crazy House: Some girls were naked; some girls wore bikinis. They rotated on the small stages; hence you had girls who were naked in front of the bar.
- Windmill: Many naked girls. The girls who had the bikini type of clothing had no underwear with their skirts. They added a new upstair level. Did they remodel and make the lower level smaller?
- Iron: Mostly bikinis. There was a jacuzzi tube, but the girls were only topless. Previously, I thought there was more nudity. Didn't like this bar; the girls were way too aggressive asking for drinks.
There are around 60 go-go bars on W. S. And I believe I've hit around 90% of them.
Next trip, I'm going to hit any ones I might have missed then hit all the ones on LK Metro.
I'll be there for 12 days. Imagine if I hit every single one again and wrote a report on each one? That would be an epic post, LOL!
Gogo's make me really happy. I feel like a kid in a candy store. I'll be there Jan. 17th if anybody is interested in gogo bar hopping with me.
Roaming Viking
11-06-16, 00:00
Hi all, I wonder of anyone could please give me an update on the Telephone Bar. Or Carre Blanc. I know that the telephone Bar changed location but have not seen many reports on the new place. Quality of girls, etc.
Thanks.
Viking.
Hi all, I wonder of anyone could please give me an update on the Telephone Bar. Or Carre Blanc. I know that the telephone Bar changed location but have not seen many reports on the new place. Quality of girls, etc. Thanks. Viking.Carre Blanc changed locations, not Telephone Bar. It's next door to Club 4 now. The Ladies are the same. The original Telephone bar had new talent when I was there this past August. (Search for my post.) Perhaps you're thinking of Telephone Bar 2 aka LE Poste on Soi Lengkee?
Roaming Viking
11-06-16, 03:49
Carre Blanc changed locations, not Telephone Bar. It's next door to Club 4 now. The Ladies are the same. The original Telephone bar had new talent when I was there this past August. (Search for my post.) Perhaps you're thinking of Telephone Bar 2 aka LE Poste on Soi Lengkee?Thanks. I appreciate the update. But I am pretty sure that the original Telephone Bar moved. I have been to LE Carre Blanc but was not all that impressed with the operators. I like to telephone, though. And made two long distance calls the last time I went to the telephone kiosk about two years ago, he he.
Mr Enternational
11-06-16, 04:38
Thanks. I appreciate the update. But I am pretty sure that the original Telephone Bar moved.I am not sure where the original may have been, but every since I have known about it, it has been on Soi Batman. I have lived on the same soi for 7 years.
But I am pretty sure that the original Telephone Bar moved. I like to telephone, though. And made two long distance calls the last time I went to the telephone kiosk about two years ago, he he.Two years ago is about when I first visited Pattaya, and discovered the Telephone Bar near Soi Batman, (Sukhumvit Pattaya 46/3 on Google Maps.) I befriended one of the ladies there this past August and chat with her on a regular basis. No mention from her about it moving. Check out this map: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1iFJ_TrUhOYlNyTS4Kg5q8_lwLFw&ll=12.919524952208912%2C100.89433737671288&z=13.
Banana Boi
11-06-16, 08:28
I visited Post Office on Soi Lengkee recently. Either old and / or overweight. One fell into the category less than the others so went for 500 baht BJ. Great service. Served it's need.
There has been talk of BJ bars. I've always wanted to try one. What is the best one on Soi 6, in this board's opinion?
Christian G
11-06-16, 14:22
I am pretty sure that the original Telephone Bar moved.I also can confirm that Telephone Bar is still in soi Batman and for all I know it's always been there.
Exactly. I trust the drugs here. .The whole point of my post was the difference between living in Thailand and traveling to Thailand and buying ED drugs. If your living in Thailand and have an adverse reaction to a drug its no big deal. If you just paid a grand for a flight and a hotel and something happens and you've got to visit the ER then a huge chunk of your trip is ruined. Its a risk, two of my buddies both lost 3 days of their trips each by taking stuff they bought in Thailand. A ten day trip that costs you a grand in hotels and airfare is a hundred bucks a day lost when you can't go out and play. Both of my buddies will say they ruined their trip if they posted here, whatever they bought knocked them both out of the party.
If you have the option, buy the drugs before a planned vacation and test them out first.
Mr Enternational
11-06-16, 18:40
The whole point of my post was the difference between living in Thailand and traveling to Thailand and buying ED drugs. If your living in Thailand and have an adverse reaction to a drug its no big deal. If you just paid a grand for a flight and a hotel and something happens and you've got to visit the ER then a huge chunk of your trip is ruined.Traveler's diarrhea is more likely to ruin a trip than taking dick pills from a reputable pharmacy (Doubt if you would forego eating though.) I have many customers in the States who have been buying them from me for upwards of 10 years without a complaint.
Jack Of Spades
11-07-16, 12:02
There has been talk of BJ bars. I've always wanted to try one. What is the best one on Soi 6, in this board's opinion?Very hard to give a definitive answer on this. Bars on Soi 6 change very quickly as girls come and go, and a good bar today might not be so good tomorrow.
Soi 6 is definitely a different experience and some of the girls are madder than a box of frogs. Be aware though that mixed in are a good number of ladyboys but most are cool with a firm no thanks.
I would suggest start at one end and take a wander up and down until you see a girl you like or a bar that seems to offer what you are looking for. Beers are cheap and it is easy to hop from one bar to the next until you find your honey.
HotShaneHot
11-07-16, 12:29
The whole point of my post was the difference between living in Thailand and traveling to Thailand and buying ED drugs. If your living in Thailand and have an adverse reaction to a drug its no big deal. If you just paid a grand for a flight and a hotel and something happens and you've got to visit the ER then a huge chunk of your trip is ruined. Its a risk, two of my buddies both lost 3 days of their trips each by taking stuff they bought in Thailand. A ten day trip that costs you a grand in hotels and airfare is a hundred bucks a day lost when you can't go out and play. Both of my buddies will say they ruined their trip if they posted here, whatever they bought knocked them both out of the party.
If you have the option, buy the drugs before a planned vacation and test them out first.Umm.
Can I ask what is a ED drugs?
Going soon to be 10 years hear and I never was hear this?
What it for?
Why you need?
Taking drugs in Thailand is not a good idea.
Can spend life in prison.
There has been talk of BJ bars. I've always wanted to try one. What is the best one on Soi 6, in this board's opinion?I just arrived this afternoon and my first visit was to one of the better reviewed BJ Bars on Soi 6, My Friend You. I will have a report out soon, so don't want to spoil anything, but I see why they have a good reputation.
Jack Of Spades
11-07-16, 16:30
Umm.
Can I ask what is a ED drugs?
Going soon to be 10 years hear and I never was hear this?
What it for?
Why you need?
Taking drugs in Thailand is not a good idea.
Can spend life in prison.I think the OPs question / post related to legal performance enhancing drugs and newer and cheaper generic versions of same that are sold from a reputable seller I. E. A pharmacy.
I think confusion is being generated as some of the replies seem to be in relation to the unknown garbage being sold on the streets or bar to bar. Personally I think you have to have a screw loose to be messing with that shit.
Mr Enternational
11-07-16, 17:44
Can I ask what is a ED drugs? Viagra, Cialis, Levitra and the generics. ED= Erectile Disfunction.
Does anyone know of a pharmacy in Pattaya that will charge Bangkok prices for Sidegra?Most places only had the pack of four 100 MG pills. The small independent pharmacies were asking between 350 to 500 Baht. The normal price is 180 Baht.
It seems you have to go to a chain pharmacy.
Fascino (on Central Pattaya Road east of 2nd Road) had it for 180 Baht. http://www.fascino.co.th/.
Note: I was not asking for heart medicine! It was only legal generic Viagra, which has been time tested. But even then, a legit Indian pharmaceutical company from a reliable pharmacy should be OK for anything. This is the same delimma / question in the US when you want to order prescription drugs from a Canadian pharmacy to get it at a lower cost.
There are around 60 go-go bars on W. S. And I believe I've hit around 90% of them.
Next trip, I'm going to hit any ones I might have missed then hit all the ones on LK Metro.
I'll be there for 12 days. Imagine if I hit every single one again and wrote a report on each one?Then you would be an internationalsexguide.info Stud.
Observations the last 2 nights.
One difference between Pattaya and Angeles is that the girls in Pattaya has a higher percentage of shaved pussies. Even comparing shaved pussies, the girls in Pattaya seemed to be all shaved, while the girls in Angeles who are shaved have a small bush on top. Of course, limited data. I prefer shaved, so this is OK for me.
- Super Baby Go-Go: Bikinis and topless. None of the girls were naked.
- Airport Go-Go: All bikinis. Even the girls in the shower tub had bikinis on. I thought last year, some of the girls were naked, especially in the tub.
- Nui 2 Go-Go: All bikinis. I thought they had nudity last year. Many decent girls. They were advertising something like, "The Runway Girls". Wondering if they are coyote. Some guys were barfining the marginal girls, but the cute girls were staying. Next door is Sensations. I didn't go in, but last year it was bikinis with many coyote girls.
- I went back to Baby Dolls. The girls on stage all had a 2 piece outfit with a skirt, but they had no underwear on, and they were exposing their breast. Even the girls in the shower tub had their outfits on, but they pushed it down exposing everything. Raunchy stuff is back. Guys fondling and eating them out. All for a few lady drinks.
- Dollhouse Go-Go (across Baby Dolls): I like this go-go. Girls were either in bikinis, topless, or all naked.
Observations the last 2 nights.
One difference between Pattaya and Angeles is that the girls in Pattaya has a higher percentage of shaved pussies. Even comparing shaved pussies, the girls in Pattaya seemed to be all shaved, while the girls in Angeles who are shaved have a small bush on top. Of course, limited data. I prefer shaved, so this is OK for me.
- Super Baby Go-Go: Bikinis and topless. None of the girls were naked.
- Airport Go-Go: All bikinis. Even the girls in the shower tub had bikinis on. I thought last year, some of the girls were naked, especially in the tub.
- Nui 2 Go-Go: All bikinis. I thought they had nudity last year. Many decent girls. They were advertising something like, "The Runway Girls". Wondering if they are coyote. Some guys were barfining the marginal girls, but the cute girls were staying. Next door is Sensations. I didn't go in, but last year it was bikinis with many coyote girls.
- I went back to Baby Dolls. The girls on stage all had a 2 piece outfit with a skirt, but they had no underwear on, and they were exposing their breast. Even the girls in the shower tub had their outfits on, but they pushed it down exposing everything. Raunchy stuff is back. Guys fondling and eating them out. All for a few lady drinks.
- Dollhouse Go-Go (across Baby Dolls): I like this go-go. Girls were either in bikinis, topless, or all naked.Well, when I read correct what your preferences are, you have mssen The Windmill, side Soi of Walkingstreet.
HotShaneHot
11-08-16, 00:31
Viagra, Cialis, Levitra and the generics. ED= Erectile Disfunction.OK.
Never need it.
Well, when I read correct what your preferences are, you have mssen The Windmill, side Soi of Walkingstreet.Yes. You know my preferences. LOL!
I like having a cold beer, watching naked girls, watching raunchy, funny things. Sometimes it's more "fun" to watch the customers do crazy things.
I went to Windmill a few days ago.
- Windmill: Many naked girls. The girls who had the bikini type of clothing had no underwear with their skirts. They added a new upstair level. Did they remodel and make the lower level smaller?
Eszpresszo
11-08-16, 03:57
Most places only had the pack of four 100 MG pills. The small independent pharmacies were asking between 350 to 500 Baht. The normal price is 180 Baht.
It seems you have to go to a chain pharmacy.
Fascino (on Central Pattaya Road east of 2nd Road) had it for 180 Baht. http://www.fascino.co.th/.
Note: I was not asking for heart medicine! It was only legal generic Viagra, which has been time tested. But even then, a legit Indian pharmaceutical company from a reliable pharmacy should be OK for anything. This is the same delimma / question in the US when you want to order prescription drugs from a Canadian pharmacy to get it at a lower cost.Note that 100 MG is the largest prescribed and available dosage for Sildenafil. 50 MG works fine for me (and most people) - just use a pill splitter and you have two dosages (for most people). The generic Colombian "Sildenafilo" I bought down there in a pharmacy is a 50 MG pill. Of course, YMMV. Some have quartered a 100 MG tablet to get all the erection they need!
As a point of price comparison, the Colombian product was 3000 Colombian Pesos in a small box of two (that's about $1 for two 50 MG tablets).
LittleBigMan
11-08-16, 08:08
OK.
Never need it.We know everyone seen the photos, you take care of those suspected Warts?
Good day all.
I haven't been active on the forum lately, I tend to catch up much closer to an upcoming trip! My next and regular trip is scheduled for Christmas through to a couple days after NYE. This is going to be my 4th such trip in succession, however, I did mix it up by coming in June as well earlier this year. I must add, the differences are staggering, the foot traffic and bar occupants / other mongers aside, prices and girls quality / looks vary. Honestly, I have looked over my finances and at the end of the whole trip, it only makes me a difference of max $500 for the whole trip. With drinks, mongering, food, general hopping. So if crowd is something you can live with, slightly higher but much better variety of girls then busy season is nothing to avoid.
A short summary of the vague details I remember from the last trip.
WS is changing and rapidly fast. Lots of new stores coming in and not all of them are GoGos or Bars, many of them are outlets like any readymade store we find in our home countries. This is a clear ploy to cash in on the foot traffic however, prices of girls was not much different on WS. They were still quoting very high prices, 4-5 k LT (even 8 k) and 2.5+ for ST. I for one find this unacceptable, no matter what her looks are. I settled for Side streets, Soi Bukhao etc for my exercises and came down to people watch and enjoy the GoGos. My last trip was during the Euros and Brexit, it was a great atmosphere, there are many good sports bars along and around Soi Bukhaow, highly highly recommend them. I had my share of experimenting with food around Pattaya, there is a large variety of international food options, always settle on the Subway Chain or a English Breakfast. I've heard it all, other mongers shaking their heads in disapproval but less problems I have with the stomach means more time mongering. The Russians were still overpriced, there is a lot more Ladyboys around or I may have just started to notice them. No issues, nor any incidents to report. Except do not feel obliged to take a girl. Ever! Negotiate and always set a price. My friend refuses to do this and has recently moved there, lives by that advice, I do not recommend it.
I would love to add many more memories, but I have a Question! The same friend whom I mentioned above has now moved to Pattaya, he does not monger as aggressively and as frequently as he used to with me and scoffs / sighs but occasionally joins other mongers, he has been recently saying especially since the Kings passed, its a little died down, things are a little quieter, liquors are same but music is a little toned down, girls are a little less prone to pulling.
My question is, is it true? I'm sure it will be fine during the busy Christmas onwards season, nothing to deter my trip but just want another opinion. What is the current situation in Pattaya? Any worrying signs?
Fluffy Bud
11-09-16, 16:17
Good day all.
I haven't been active on the forum lately, I tend to catch up much closer to an upcoming trip! My next and regular trip is scheduled for Christmas through to a couple days after NYE. This is going to be my 4th such trip in succession, however, I did mix it up by coming in June as well earlier this year. I must add, the differences are staggering, the foot traffic and bar occupants / other mongers aside, prices and girls quality / looks vary. Honestly, I have looked over my finances and at the end of the whole trip, it only makes me a difference of max $500 for the whole trip. With drinks, mongering, food, general hopping. So if crowd is something you can live with, slightly higher but much better variety of girls then busy season is nothing to avoid.
A short summary of the vague details I remember from the last trip.Hey Eurojay,
I just got back from Pattaya. Everything seems to be pretty normal, maybe some places will close earlier but not sure as I was usually out of the GoGo's by 1 AM the latest. But from what I experienced everything seems to be the same. However Bangkok is much quieter and most GoGo's are closed by 12 when I was there last week.
Mr Enternational
11-09-16, 23:25
its a little died down, things are a little quieter, liquors are same but music is a little toned down, girls are a little less prone to pulling.
My question is, is it true? I'm sure it will be fine during the busy Christmas onwards season, nothing to deter my trip but just want another opinion. What is the current situation in Pattaya? Any worrying signs?Same as it ever was. Women trading pussy for money. I don't think anyone has ever said they were going to Pattaya because of how loud it was. Look at the big picture.
Pattaya Report, Day 1 (Monday).
I am back! This is my fourth visit to the Land of Smiles. The plan this year is to spend about 12 days here, then go up to Bangkok for 2 days to visit the Cowboy and Nana districts for the first time, then meet up with my Thai GF to visit Phuket for about a week then return to Bangkok for a few days before I head back home.
For the trip over I took EVA airline, Elite class, from LAX to BKK via Taipei. I love Elite class. This airline gives good service and has always been on time and professional. I had hoped to arrive in time to catch the 12 PM Bell bus to Pattaya, but the immigration line was long and the officer in the sub-line I chose was super slow. I don't want to take a taxi for safety reasons. They are far less safe than a bus and so much cheaper. Many taxi's don't have operable seat belts, and Thailand is one of the least-safe countries regarding auto accidents.
But I did miss the bus by half an hour. Coming out of immigration I exchanged some currency, aghast that the best rate I could find was about 34.05 (In Pattaya, I am seeing up to 34.9. I have never seen this huge difference in exchange rates between the two places be this great.) I exchanged $200, then decided to face death and get a taxi rather than wait another 75 minutes for the next bus. My luck of the draw was an older cab, hard seats and, of course, inoperable seat belts. Oh well. But, obviously, I made it safely to Pattaya. The trip took nearly 2 hours, but we were slowed by rain along the way.
Arriving at the Dynasty on Soi 13, I was upset that they have done away with the old keys and magnetic flop for a modern card reader system. Before, a simple magnet would defeat their power-down equipment, so that you could leave the AC on when you left the room, allowing you to come back to a comfortable, de-humidified room after you went out. Can't do that anymore! After a week I am switching to the Sandy Spring, where I hope they are still using the old system.
I had been in contact with Mr. E and was hoping to meet with him before his departure early Monday morning tomorrow). In the meantime, I decided to start the mongering activities by visiting a BJ bar on Soi 6. I have never done this before, as I generally like full service, with the BJ as part of the overall service. I have always had coming with simply a BJ. Not sure why, but I can count all the releases I have had via BJ in my entire life on my two hands with fingers left over. But the naughty part of me was intrigued with what I have heard about the My Friend You bar, so I figured that if I were to have success at it, it should be the first visit of my trip following a period of abstinence.
So, I headed down to Soi 6 late in the afternoon. As Banana Boy reported, Soi 6 was loaded with girls, and whereas last time I was here it was difficult to find a doable girl of the class I wanted, there were quite a relative few this time. I did a walk down and back the full length of the street, tempted to stop at several bars, but I went back to My Friend You, being intrigued by a cutie with a really trim body. Her name was Tuk and she was a bit crazy, in a good way. We went inside and she got me my club soda, sitting down next to me and starting to freely roam her hands all over me. It got a little exciting so I bought her a drink and we went into the curtained area by the bar for our activities.
The price was a 300 BF plus 700 for her. For FS upstairs it would have been the regular 300/1000. I considered FS, but kept to my plan of a BJ from a professional. So, in the barely semi-private area (you are hidden from the bar by a curtain, but anyone else getting a BJ will be in there with you). It was deserted, and she had me remove my pants, and she removed her top. She was probably around 30 but with a pretty firm body and firm, young looking breasts of a nice small Bee cup. Her hair was soft, her voice was nice, and she was playful and joyful. Se proceeded to give a nice, sloppy BBBJ but, alas, no joy for me as I just can't come. Bummer. I have not released in a week, and nothing. Not sure I can blame her for that – it is me. My Thai GF can't get me off either this way. It is just how I am I guess. But Tuk tried hard and I may go back for FS as I loved her body.
For others wondering about a BJ Bar, here is the process. Go to the bar and there should be several girls sitting out front. Pick one you like (several may vie for your attention) and they will take you inside to the bar, where you are obliged to buy yourself a drink I guess. Talk with the girl and if you still like her, don't be cheap, and buy her a drink as well. After that, she should start coming on to you, and if you don't start the conversation about activities, she probably will. You can certainly just some out and say you are there for a BJ. That is ok, as that is what they are famous for. When that is decided upon, be prepared to go off to the curtained off area and be prepared for others being in there or coming in there. You will strip from the waist down and be sitting on a vinyl couch with the germs on hundreds or thousands of other bare butts. (Thinking about that might have had some effect on my inability to come.) The will take her top off, and end up kneeling on a cold, hard floor, slurping you off to heaven. Hopefully. No idea if they will take it in the mouth or if they can sense you coming and will pull out and you end up shooting in theirface, breasts or in the air. No idea at all.
Anyway, I can recommend Tuk and the bar. They provide the service they are famous for.
After that, I walked down the soi towards the beach. I contemplated visiting one of the regular bars, but realized that when I left the hotel I forget to bring any condoms. I prefer my. 01's to their standard fare, so without them I just grabbed a baht bus to come back to the hotel and rest a little from my long international trip and wait hear back from Mr. E. I still had no phone or internet service outside the hotel.
But soon enough, I met Mr E who kindly offered to come to my hotel and help me with getting local internet and phone service. He is a tough negotiator! After that, went to WS. We visited some bars, and he showed me his infamous table at 808, then we went onto the street to check out a few gogos. We ended up near the WS entrance and passing by Sugar Baby. I had a near heaven experience with a girl from there last time, though to be honest she was a star fish practically, but a heavenly-looking star fish. But was her name Bell or Bee? I couldn't remember, but she had a perfect body with enhanced boobs and a heavenly voice. In her street clothes she was jaw dropping hot. So we go in and I look around for her. She performed naked at the far end of the stage last time I was there, and I looked there and didn't see her. There was a girl who was similar, with similarly large boobs and the same shoulder-length hair, but with lots of tattoos and obviously older due to some slightly, very slightly, drooping skin. But the more I look, the more I wonder if that is her. We asked the mamasan who that girl was. She checks and says it is Bee. Well, ok, maybe that is her. But I am still not satisfied, so I go over to her and ask to see if she might remember me and she says she does. Well, maybe she does or maybe she didn't. I didn't see her eyes light up when I came over, but what really struck me was her raspy voice. No! MY Bee had a soft voice and her English was excellent. I didn't talk long enough to check her English skills, being taken aback by that voice. Ugh. What has happening in these last 6 months? I tell her I am with a friend but will come back to see her. She smiles at that and I leave. But do I really want to see her again? She is not cheap and while the first time was heaven with her and I was more than happy to simply gaze at her body while the lied there, that would not be the case this time. Sigh.
I was getting tired, and he needed to wake up early the next morning, so we decided to call it quits on WS. I wanted to go back to Soi 6 for a quickie there, and he offered to take me there, showing me other mongering areas I had never seen before, such as the LK area, as well as some of the other more remote places, I. E. Post office, 007, etc. It was a great little tour and then we said goodbye at Soi 6. Mr E is fun to be with, a wealth of information and I thank him profusely for the help and generosity. I had offered to buy him dinner and drink but he ended up paying for mine, so he is a gentleman's gentleman.
There were some really cute girls out. One hot little spinner I wanted was scooped right in front of me because I hesitated a few seconds too long. I ended up at the Mandarin, on the south side not too far from the BR entrance. I was called over and while the girl I ended up with might not normally have been my first or second choice, I kind of liked that she was a little larger (but still properly proportioned) than some of the smaller girls. Sometimes the tiny spinners just don't feel right – we need a woman with the larger bodies to accommodate our Western body types sometimes. The tiny girls can be sexy, but the large ones (again, not intending "large" to mean fat, just having some curves) offer advantages too. Before committing to her I did touch her and rub my hands up and down her waist and I enjoyed what I felt, and she had a nice face in the dim light, so I thought what the heck? She did turn out to give a semi GFE, but there were also mechanical elements to it. LFK, lots of touching, she kissed my nipples, which I love, and was pretty passionate, but there was still some mechanics to it. She was a little older than I had thought, as her skin was just on the verge of getting saggy. Breasts were quite small. I was disappointed in that she started off opening up her condom. No BJ. I let her use her condom, and she felt good inside. It was fairly passionate and after a while and after a few positions, she stopped and removed herself from me. Did she just come, I wondered? She removed the condom and then gave a nice BJ. After a few minutes she asked if I wanted a condom back on, I said yes but that I wanted to use my own. Mine was better. We resumed and I obtained my first orgasm of the trip, where I finished with her flat on her back, legs together, me on top.
Her name was Dow, I forget to say. Cost was standard 300/1000. As with Tuk earlier, I left no tip.
I went home and to bed, glad to be back inside a woman again after too long, and to be back in this awesome city. I have apprehensions about spending 12 days here though. Previously, my longest trip was 6 or 7 days, and I was getting depressed by that point. I mean, doing women day after day in an otherwise boring city gets old! Haha. But this time I am armed with ThiaCupid and Tender, and I have made a couple of preliminary contacts, and I am hoping to find a few who will model before the camera for me. I am taking beach shots and the like, not necessarily naughty photos. Do that with them during the day would help relieve the boredom. I have also learned my long term heart thob, Fon, is also in town and is back at the Peppermint. Some may remember I had Fon in my room last time twice, and never got any off her. We have maintained a small amount of contact since last time, and don't ask me why, but have not made any plans to be together again. She is a girl that has a strange hold over me, so I am curious as to what may happen.
Plans for tomorrow (Tuesday). I guess the US election will be happening later in the day but I probably won't follow it, waiting until Thursday morning here to learn the fate of our nation. I should try to get some apps and things loaded on the new used phone Mr. E helped me buy, work on this report, head pick up some laundry I dropped off, then probably head back to Soi 6 for some afternoon action, back to the hotel for more writing and a nap, then to WS in the night to possibly see Fon at the Peppermint and guage her reaction to me, possible go back to see Bee (though possibly not as that voice now. Argh), possibly back to Red Car (older women there typically, but the bar that is not quite as loud as the others and no smoking), and doing whatever pops into my mind?
To wrap Day One, I visited one Soi 6 BJ bar for 300/700 and one typical Soi bar for FS at 300/1000. I will note the rate at Sugar Baby (we asked) was 1000 BF ST and then whatever the girl charges, but apparently that is 2000ST. I think LT would be 2000/3000. I seem to remember that Bee had a higher rate. She may have been worth it then.
Pattaya Report, Day 1 (Monday).
Previously, my longest trip was 6 or 7 days, and I was getting depressed by that point. I mean, doing women day after day in an otherwise boring city gets old! Haha.
Do that with them during the day would help relieve the boredom.
Great report FL Hawk! Keep them coming! I'll be eagerly reading them.
You seem to be in the same mind set as I am when I visit Pattaya. I get bored really easily. I am also a really early riser, so between 6 am -1 pm I am usually bored out of my mind.
Let us know what you end up doing during the day! Hopefully your discoveries can help me when I arrive in mid-January.
Pattaya Report, Day 1 (Monday).
I am back! This is my fourth visit to the Land of Smiles. The plan this year is to spend about 12 days here, then go up to Bangkok for 2 days to visit the Cowboy and Nana districts for the first time, then meet up with my Thai GF to visit Phuket for about a week then return to Bangkok for a few days before I head back home.
For the trip over I took EVA airline, Elite class, from LAX to BKK via Taipei. I love Elite class. This airline gives good service and has always been on time and professional. I had hoped to arrive in time to catch the 12 PM Bell bus to Pattaya, but the immigration line was long and the officer in the sub-line I chose was super slow. I don't want to take a taxi for safety reasons. They are far less safe than a bus and so much cheaper. Many taxi's don't have operable seat belts, and Thailand is one of the least-safe countries regarding auto accidents.
But I did miss the bus by half an hour. Coming out of immigration I exchanged some currency, aghast that the best rate I could find was about 34.05 (In Pattaya, I am seeing up to 34.9. I have never seen this huge difference in exchange rates between the two places be this great.) I exchanged $200, then decided to face death and get a taxi rather than wait another 75 minutes for the next bus. My luck of the draw was an older cab, hard seats and, of course, inoperable seat belts. Oh well. But, obviously, I made it safely to Pattaya. The trip took nearly 2 hours, but we were slowed by rain along the way..Excellent report thanks, I believe your elite ticket should of came with fast track through immigration, I've read different story's about this but most times the flight attendant will not offer it to you unless you ask! Happy travels,
Pattaya Report, Day 1 (Monday).
I am back!Hurray! Looking forward to reading about all your successes, trials and tribulations. And this is an excellent first report.
Hi Guys,
I am in Pattaya right now. This is my third and last day in Pattaya. First day I was in Nasha Club which is good as the quality of girls of is quite good but the asking price of quality is around 6000. Also been to Galaxy Russian club which is totally a fake club as the Russian girls standing outside told us for full sex for 2000 Baht inside the room but when we went it was only private show and when we complained these girls were totally changed. So on the second day went again to Nasha girl and took a Turkish girl who was really a nice one and stayed with me for whole night and full of enjoyment. On third day the indian guy standing on the waking street took us to Deja Vu Russian club which turns to be a nightmare. The lady manger told us for best service for 6000 bath inside the hotel room. The girl named Juliane with blonde hair was very nice inside the club but totally changed when we reached to the hotel. And it was the moment I lost my mood so nothing happen even after paying 6000 baht. So guys don't trust any russian girl or club when you are in Pattaya as they are there only for cheating. Tomo I am going to Bangkok so will write about my experience.
Bye for now.
Banana Boi
11-10-16, 23:15
I am also a really early riser, so between 6 am -1 pm I am usually bored out of my mind.Shouldn't you still be with your girl from the night before til around noon?
Head out for an oil massage at one of the thousand massage shops. Write some very detailed reviews for ISG. Go to the temple like all the gogo girls do maybe you can pick one up there.
Hi Guys,
I am in Pattaya right now. This is my third and last day in Pattaya. First day I was in Nasha Club which is good as the quality of girls of is quite good but the asking price of quality is around 6000. Also been to Galaxy Russian club which is totally a fake club...I would urge my fellow mongers to forget about Russian working girls in Pattaya, or any other parts of Asia. If you really like Russian girls, go to the FKKs in Germany, ton of them there. They cost 50 Euros per session (1/2 hour) plus club entrance fees (60 to 80 Euros). After you've had enough of them there, you will forget about them. They look good but they are generally lousy in the sack. I learned that from experience, after seeing 20+ Russian working girls over the 12 years I've been going to the FKKs.
SeanSharma87
11-11-16, 00:59
I met a girl online on Thai friendly. She said she would accompany me to Phuket as long as I cover the expense of her trip to Bangkok and Bangkok to Phuket. S. She is very beautiful. But reading about all these scams makes me worried. Has anyone come accords this situation. Any help would be great.
OlderMan4U
11-11-16, 06:38
I met a girl online on Thai friendly. She said she would accompany me to Phuket as long as I cover the expense of her trip to Bangkok and Bangkok to Phuket. S. She is very beautiful. But reading about all these scams makes me worried. Has anyone come accords this situation. Any help would be great.My concern with such situations is not that I am worried about any scams, but more that I simply may not be compatible with her for the duration of the trip.
It is easy to be infatuated with a profile and picture of a beautiful woman online. But let's say you meet her and everything seems to check out. But you are now stuck with her for the remainder of the trip. What if something happens, or you realize that you really aren't that much into her. Now you have to drag her around everywhere or go your separate ways. Can be very inconvenient.
You can always meet a girl in Thailand first and if you have chemistry then take her on trips. I am not saying not to do what you are doing, but just something to keep in mind.
Just curious what your goal is here. Are you looking for relatively inexpensive companionship in terms of not having to worry about barfines and the girl's fee? A potentially more serious relationship partner?
Excellent report thanks, I believe your elite ticket should of came with fast track through immigration, I've read different story's about this but most times the flight attendant will not offer it to you unless you ask! Happy travels,Nope. Elite is lumped in with cattle class for immigration. I wish.
I met a girl online on Thai friendly. She said she would accompany me to Phuket as long as I cover the expense of her trip to Bangkok and Bangkok to Phuket. S. She is very beautiful. But reading about all these scams makes me worried. Has anyone come accords this situation. Any help would be great.Unless you have been talking to her for a very long while, like a year or two, it is likely to be a scam. I talked to my OK Cupid GF for over 2 years before coming over, and I used my own credit card to pay for her ticket to BKK. If you do pay expenses for this girl, use your own card to pay, and chose a refundable flight. If she is scamming you she may try to talk you out of that, as she will have to provide her full information, or upon seeing she won't be able to get any money out of it, will simply refuse to come. If legit, she won't mind this plan at all. Mine didn't, and she is the real deal.
Day Two (Tuesday).
Tried to sleep late but it was hopeless past 8 AM. I had a little bit of laundry to do so I gather it up and took it to my favorite place on Soi 13/1, Porn Laundry, then walk down to the Bat Watch restaurant for breakfast. I then came back to the hotel to work on yesterday's report, as well as to take care of some business from back home, and to try to figure out the new used phone I got the day before, which gives me phone and Internet for the next 2 weeks. My regular phone is an iPhone, and this Samsung Duos has a different operating system and I have no idea how to use it. I start to figure out a few things and by then it is 2 PM. I am tired and ready for a nap, but I will have plenty of time to nap when I go home, so I head out to Soi 6.
Lots of girls out, many of them young and attractive. I finally pick a girl at Horny Bar. She looks young with a slender body and long legs. Very pretty face as well. Her name, and I am spelling it phonetically, is Kathai (ka thai) and she says she is 20 and has been here (or maybe at that bar) for a month. I was about to walk on as she was not talking much, but her friend prompted her to speak and I liked her smile so inside we went. She warmed up inside, and while she knew very little English, she was being funny and liked to tease me, so I bought her a drink and upstairs we soon went. Standard Soi 6 300/1000. I was a little disappointed to see that she was a mommie. It was not obviously noticeable. No flabby belly skin or scars, but it was not tight and firm as it would otherwise be. Breasts were small A with small nipples are areolas. The legs were indeed long and nice, with that very pretty face and hair.
It was a near GFE overall. She enjoyed LFT and we spent much time just holding and kissing and touching. At one point we were wrapped in each other's arms and the natural thing to have done at that point was for me to simply slip myself inside her. I contemplated trying to do that. She really seemed to be enjoying it all and my Johnson was down there poking around and she had not objections, but one has to stay safe so I broke it off for the condom. (Not saying she would have allowed bareback or that I really would have done it, but the temptation is there.) But stopping for a danged condom totally ruined the mood, as I discovered that my 01 package had been opened, so it was dry, and proved impossible to roll on. The condom come in plastic cups with a sealed cover, so to open you peel back the cover. I later found some others open package, like the adhesive had failed. Even when fresh, these can be difficult to roll on, and I have had to throw away a few for that reason. This time, there was no way it would go on properly so I pulled it off and broke out another, managing to get it on properly. But my rock hard package got a bit limp during this whole process, and that feeling you have when you are really on a roll with a woman was lot. She climbed on top of me in doggie, with me still not fully erect, and she performed well, though I never got to the rock hard state I had been in. She seemed to be in to it, with her eyes closed and her soft moaning. That and the sight of her banging away on top of me made up for some of the mood lost, and then I rolled her over on her back into missionary and with my arms wrapped around her again, most of the lost blood flow was restored. She started off a little dry but was pretty wet now and I pounded and managed to come once again. Many of you may recall I can go for days, seeing 2 girls a day, and not be able to come for some reason. I have proven to myself that I come at least once a day indefinitely, with twice a day thrown in every once in a while, leading to my belief that my bad showing in Pattaya is mainly due to the condoms. So, I doubt I will have success again tonight, and maybe not tomorrow either. We will see. But while I think her vag was not on the tight side my any means, it felt good and when she pumped out a little extra lubricant, it was all I needed.
I gave her a 100 Baht tip and she said she hoped I would return the next day. Sweet girl, and maybe later just due to the near GFE I might. Oh, there was no BJ. Maybe she skipped it due to the time we spent touching, but a short BJ would have been nice.
Leaving Soi 6, Dow from the night before walked by and said Hi. She wasn't looking bad in the daylight. Another girl, further down, latched on to me, as if she knew me and we had been together before. She was a little chubby and I doubt I had been with her. I broke away, then hopped on a baht bus. I was very tired still and wanted a nap. However, with Kathai I drank a diet coke, so the caffeine is affecting me a bit, so I first wrote the rough draft of my experience thus far today before finally lying down at 5 PM. Polls in the US will open in a few hours. The fate of the free world depends on what will happen later when I am out mongering on WS!
At about 6 PM decide to take a nap. I figure I can sleep a few hours and hit WS and maybe check out the discos a bit, as that is an area I still haven't come close to mastering. I am really tired and quickly fall asleep. I wake up a few times but figure it is still early, but I notice I have probably dozed a long time I checked the analog wall clock in the room at is reads 2:50! What the!! How did I sleep so late, and now what do I do? This totally screws up my sleeping schedule, as I now wake up at the time the place shuts down. Well, no use going back to bed since I have already slept 8 hours or more so I will be just lying there until daybreak. Well, even if the gogo are shutting down, there will still be the disco's for a little while longer, so may as well get up and head in and at least see what it is like that late. I dress but only take a little bit of money, as the only thing I will be getting that night, if anything, will be a FL girl. The hotel is dead as I leave the lobby. But outside, the soi has people and as I walk down towards to BR, there are many people and baht busses and FL girls are in abundance on BR. Huh?? I pull out by cell and, duh, it is only 10 PM. Yes, in the dark, I had mis-read the clock! I had plenty of time! Whew. I timed it pretty good actually.
One thing I am noting on WS is that the throng of Chinese bus tourists is gone. Last May there were dozens of buses full of Chinese busses clogging BR, and hundreds if not thousands of tourists in their tour groups clogging WS with mothers, grandmothers and kids. I don't think I have seen a single bus this trip and only a very few tour groups. They are here, but in the normal numbers I have seen in all my previous visits. WS is still busy, but not choking with those who really should not be in a red light district.
I did stop by Peppermint to see Luk, my friend the mamasan, and the other girl who always finds me, though I can't remember her name. Within a minute they both find me. The girl, seems like her name might be Porn, seriously, has lost some weight and looks much better, but I did her once as a favor and she was too expensive for her looks then, and still would be now. Luk invited me to her birthday party this Friday, so I might stop back by. They had dozens of girls there, may quite hot. This is certainly one of the better quality clubs on WS. I had been in contact with Fon, the girl who I have lusted over since the beginning, and she said she was back at the Peppermint. She was not working that night, but one of the first things Luk told me was that she was back. I am not sure if will try to party with Fon or not. We will see. Over Line she did say she will see me. I don't know.
Anyway, I visited I-Bar a few times and a few other places but ended up at Red Car and there I met Anna. Older, maybe early 40's, still fairly trim with long soft hair and a very nice face. I feel some pride in that I saw her standing nearby and I actually pursued her. I offered her on open chair at the bar and slowly we started talking a little. She warmed up to me and thought there was never any overt stuff, the point was reached where she asked if I wanted her and when I said yes, she made me laugh when she said "you know you have to pay for it". Ok, 2000 Baht for LT.
Back at the hotel, she did the shower by herself, which I normally take as a bad sign, though that is not always the case. It was after 2 PM and she was very tired and a tad drunk, and she was curled up in bed by the time I finished my shower. But she dutifully got to work and offered a pretty nice BBBJ. Now you may remember I like to use Japanese Sagami 01 condoms. I have also used the Aoni 01's, but find they tend to break if the girl does not maintain adequate lubrication. This time, in addition to these, I also brought some Sagami Original L-size (I think they are 01's, but maybe they are 02's) as well as the Trojan Naturalamb. These are the skin condoms. These are not made for small dick's. It just barely fits me, and I am average. Anyway, these are supposedly the best feeling of them all, even the 01's, as they are natural. They don't block viruses, so you have to be cautious, but I thought I would try one with Anna. The condom is thicker than the 01's, so I was leery, but it did feel pretty good inside her. I guess I need to find a girl and do some comparison testing! Anyway, she was not exactly a GFE, but she was into it, moaning and calling out, but I had the impression some of it was faked. I was getting close to coming, feeling great that I might set a new Pattaya record of coming 3 times in two days, when the last time I was here I think I came 3 times in a week. But alas, I was getting close then I slipped out of her, then after that the feeling was gone. That was it. I pretended to come, as these Thai ladies can get personally insulted if they can't get you off.
I showed and she turned over to sleep. I don't know if I slept any. The nap earlier took it toll. She woke up around 8 and said she was leaving. Fine. Nice lady, but not worth 2000. It was dark in the room so I can't vouch too much on her appearance naked, but her skin was super soft, though I felt a large see-Section scar. He breasts were surprisingly firm and felt really good, considering she has a kid. But, no, I can't recommend her for her asking price.
After she left, I turned on the TV to watch the US election results and was stunned to see an unexpected history in the making. I went out to breakfast then came back and watched until the victory speech. Amazing, whichever way you feel about the outcome.
This concludes the Day 2 report. Summary: I had Katahi on Soi 6 for the standard 300/1000, and FL Anna from Red Car for 2000. For Day 3, I will try to celebrate / mourn the election results on both Soi 6 and WS, and I might check out a FL. I should also work on a couple of Tinder girls I met.
Eszpresszo
11-11-16, 18:45
I want to thank all the people who responded to my post regarding the safe way to carry cash and deal with credit cards in the LOS. Very good info for all! I'll share a few little things I've picked up which might be helpful for others in regards to what we carry in our pockets.
I believe it was on this thread, that somebody mentioned he just carried a money clip around when out mongering, as opposed to a wallet. I thought that odd. Money clips, a quaint archaic thing. But, the more I thought about it the more it made sense. I don't need this thick wallet that carries all the stuff I normally need to for work, driving around and everyday life at home. I won't even be driving in Thailand period. When looking for a money clip (not something easy to find in stores) I looked at the first place I look for anything. Ebay. I found dozens and dozens to choose from, mostly for under $5. I found a modern take on the money clip with two clips back to back. One for cash and another for cards. $4. I realized that it will be a lot harder to pickpocket these things, not to mention easier to dispense cash. Thanks to whoever suggested getting a money clip.
Then it has been brought to my attention, that one will need to carry specific coins in Thailand. Coins for the baht bus, and the pay toilets, etc. We don't give much thought to coins in the modern world of electronic commerce. But, it occurred to me that I didn't need to be fumbling around for some unfamiliar coins when I needed them. It occurred to me I needed an old fashioned coin purse. Remember the plastic "squeeze" coin purses that used to be omnipresent and given out as freebies with the name of some business on the back? They are hard to come by now. Again, I looked on Ebay and found them. But they tend to ship from Asia, and cost more than a money clip, oddly enough. I found a bright red one for $5. It should be handy not to mention not so easy for me to lose!
Finally, I gave some thought to how I will carry around those condoms I will need. We all know not to put them in your wallet or your back pocket. At home there are a few in the glove box of my car, in case a date asks me to come inside her place. In Berlin last year, I kept a few in my jacket pockets. But, in Colombia earlier this year I didn't need a jacket. I put the rubbers in my front shirt pocket, where I already have two much stuff already. I looked into condom cases online. But, they all got bad online reviews on the places that sold them. They were more gimmicky or cheap. People who bought them complained they didn't accommodate large condoms, or more than one or they were poorly made. But, on some other forum not related to mongering, somebody suggested using old Game boy cartridge cases. I never owned any of that stuff. But, I decided to look for them on Ebay (where else? I found a Gameboy case for 75 cents including shipping from Japan. It took a few weeks to get here but it was perfect for the job. It was just the right size to accommodate two, large Kimono condoms and fits easily in my front pants pocket.
So, I took a photo of the trio and I hope this might be helpful for others, who want to organize their mongering essentials.
Transmuter
11-11-16, 20:12
Hello,
I want to have a holiday in Pattaya in December and I assume girls may spice up may holidays.
As a first timer (don't blame me if I have overlooked comments in the forum) I have some questions:
1. "Walking Street" in Pattaya South is the action, right? Or other places you would recommend?
2. If I book a five star resort there (eg. , Sofitel close to the Walking Street), are they "girl friendly"? How difficult it may be to bring a part time lover to such compound? Any suggestions where it is easier?
3. Any possibility to find limited time GF in advance to reduce the burden of hunting every night?
T.
To find the many, many answers to your questions, please RTFF. All your questions are answered. If you insist, I will do the research for you at $70 an hour.
HappyButLookin
11-12-16, 00:19
Hello,
I want to have a holiday in Pattaya in December and I assume girls may spice up may holidays.
As a first timer (don't blame me if I have overlooked comments in the forum) I have some questions:
1. "Walking Street" in Pattaya South is the action, right? Or other places you would recommend?
2. If I book a five star resort there (eg. , Sofitel close to the Walking Street), are they "girl friendly"? How difficult it may be to bring a part time lover to such compound? Any suggestions where it is easier?
3. Any possibility to find limited time GF in advance to reduce the burden of hunting every night?
T.Soi 6 is probably the place with the most action and debauchery.
Yes, yes and yes. You can send me a check for $75.
1. "Walking Street" in Pattaya South is the action, right?
2. If I book a five star resort there (eg. , Sofitel close to the Walking Street), are they "girl friendly"?
3. Any possibility to find limited time GF in advance to reduce the burden of hunting every night?
T..
Banana Boi
11-12-16, 01:50
Transmuter, depends what you mean by action. If you mean grabbing a girl and banging her within 2 minutes, Soi 6 and the G-clubs are where to go. There is a hotel forum for hotel discussions but for an upscale hotel a favorite here is Baraquda. Any girl in Pattaya will be your limited time GF if they are satisfied with what you pay them.
Hello,
I want to have a holiday in Pattaya in December and I assume girls may spice up may holidays.
As a first timer (don't blame me if I have overlooked comments in the forum) I have some questions:
1. "Walking Street" in Pattaya South is the action, right? Or other places you would recommend?
2. If I book a five star resort there (eg. , Sofitel close to the Walking Street), are they "girl friendly"? How difficult it may be to bring a part time lover to such compound? Any suggestions where it is easier?
3. Any possibility to find limited time GF in advance to reduce the burden of hunting every night?
T.Go back 100 pages and read it all! Lots of info and tips.
But. Since I am bored right now, I will try to help.
1. There are several places with action. I think Soi 6 is the ultimate. The street is lined with girls sitting outside call for you. You can get cute girl for an hour for 1300 Baht, plus drinks. Less than $50 total and you do the deed right there, upstairs, and get two free showers included! Walking Street has the higher profile agogo's, but you have to go inside and they will demand you get a drink. Many many girls from ugly to beautiful, from maybe 2000 baht up to over 5000. There are also disco's here. You can spend the night on WS. Next is Beach Road in the evening through night for the Free Lancers. From old and ugly to young and cute, the going rate is around 800 baht, maybe less for older and uglier. Best pickings are late afternoon through 10 or 11 PM. Overall, Soi 6 for best value, WS for the the quality and entertainment, and BR for cheap, but not always low quality.
2. Do your research!
3. You can search in Tinder and Thai Cupid. I have had no luck on Thai Cupid, but I am older. I have met one from Tender, but she just wanted quickies. Your luck may vary. But advertise and you might find someone. Some girls, if they like you, will want to hang with you your whole trip. But if you just want to avoid the hassles of hunting, go to Soi 6 or BR and spend a few minutes.
Day 3 (Wednesday).
OK, after watching the election results, I headed to Soi 6 to celebrate / mourn. It was later in the afternoon and I didn't want to waste too much time, so I picked one of the first girls I saw who I thought was cute. It was Fern from Sexy Inn. Nice legs, slender body and nice face. Did the drinks then upstairs. And now it gets interesting. For the first time ever on Soi 6, when we strip for the shower, she leaves on her bra and panties and tells me to go on and shower alone. Um, ok. I come out and she has taken her bra off to reveal a set of smallish implants not well done. She then goes into the shower before removing her panties, and closes the door. Um, ok. She comes out naked and reveals a trimmed Bush but other than the implants, a nice body. We lie down and she proceeds to give an awesome BBBJ. She is slow and soft and I am in heaven. Most of these girls start off too fast. After a good long while she asks if I am ready for her to climb on and, yes, I am. On goes the condom and she slides herself on, but she acts like I am too big and seem to struggle and maybe feel some pain, but se gets me in. She is a little dry, but after some up and down activity she seems to moisten up, but within a minute she climbs off and asks if I want her to smoke me again (I. E BJ). Well, sure, as it did feel great. So many many more minutes of smoking, as they say, but I cannot come. But I am also wondering if I have TG ladyboy! Her voice is normal, hands are small, so I see no physical clues, but a tight dry vag that really didn't feel right, even though the lube level seemed to increase, and the extreme emphasis on a BJ over intercourse. I don't know!
Either way, Fern was a nice provider if not a little strange, and I really don't want to dwell on if she if she was born a he. As long as they had a V between their legs I guess I won't freak. Anyway, cost was the standard 300/1000. Pleasant girl, really cute and perfect if you want a long, slow BBBJ with little or no intercourse.
I then went back to the hotel and took another nap, waking up around 9 PM. I first went to Soi 6. I intended to especially careful in my selection! I stopped by the Clansman and saw Jan. Another cute girl who gave an awesome BBBJ. No doubt she was a real girl who was funny and accommodating. Really nice time, though the specifics elude me now. Standard 300/1000 and, no, I couldn't come again, but not due to her. She tried and tried. When I couldn't come in my condom, she smoked me again and when that wasn't working she broke out one of her condoms (inferior to mine) and when that didn't work more smoking and even when I told her to stop trying she kept going, sad that she wasn't able to get me off. I will add that she had a great little vag. The feeling of it was superior in one particular position, but I couldn't capitalize on it. I did tip her 100 for her outstanding effort. Great girl, Jan.
I am now getting a bit sexually frustrated, after having a good start. On the baht bus I see a lot of attractive FL girls on BR, so I get off the bus around Soi 7 and start walking back towards my hotel. I make a few passes but decide on a sexy looking girl with bleached hair. Not a spinner, again in that she did not have a tiny body, but one a little more classically shaped meaning she had hips and a waist. She did not have the body of a 20 why / o, but still nice and she had a certain look to her that I liked. She wore blue jean shorts that were bleached in a pattern of tiger stripes I suppose. I mention this as on later days I continued to see her, in the vicinity of Soi 13, wearing the same outfit. Back at the hotel, Tee opted to shower alone and as soon, and as we hit the bed she went to work. That usually bodes poorly, but this girl gave another awesome BBBJ. Whereas Fern had a light touch, she was more firm and a little faster, but not too hard or too fast. It really felt good. This was becoming the day of some of the best BJ's ever. I was thinking that just possibly I could come with this. She stopped and I thought it was over, but it was just to change position, and she went back to work. Good girl. But it was then time to but the condom on and climb aboard and started grinding away. When they grind, it means (I hope) they are rubbing their clit so that it will feel good for them. She did make some legit moans, especially in doggie when being pounded, so I do think she was having a good time. I used the Aoni condom and it worked out fine, though she was using lube so it all worked out. Still, no coming with her though, again, there were times I would get close. She tried hard, going back to BJ then a HJ, but HJs can be painful after a while due to the hand pressure, so I soon had her stop. I should add, for a FL, she was nice and she really tried. Nice body, though not a spinner, and great attitude. Paid her 800 and it was worth it.
After Tee left, I headed to WS. I had now had 3 women (well.) today and wondered if I needed a 4th. I really didn't do much on WS, just walked around a bunch. Still not seeing many Chinese. I visited the discos but they were crowded around midnight and other than Red Car, stayed crowded until close to closing. I did stay a while in Red Car and sat next to an older lady who seemed like I could have gotten her interested, but upon a closer look she was not want I wanted. I left and soon enough the agogos started shutting down and the vendor trucks were moving in. I stayed and walked around for a while. I supposed that many of the girls that come out were players and might have been available, but I didn't try. I went home alone, but I did pass Tee on the way. She remembered me and greeted me warmly as I passed by. This was after 3 AM and WS was pretty bare, but she was there!
Anyway, for the day, two Soi 6 girls, hopefully all female, for 300/1000 each, and a really nice FL girl from BR for 800. Back at the hotel, I researched the Tinder girls some more to arrange something.
Day 3 (Wednesday).
Anyway, for the day, two Soi 6 girls, hopefully all female, for 300/1000 each, and a really nice FL girl from BR for 800. Back at the hotel, I researched the Tinder girls some more to arrange something.Bro,
Sorry to hear that you haven't been finishing! Are you taking any pills to help? Kamagra jelly doesn't just get me hard, it also makes me want to finish faster.
How much money are you spending on food and booze? A total of how much you are spending daily (massages, food, laundry, baht buses) would be really awesome.
Keep up the reports, they are awesome thus far!
I hear about using Kamagra jelly. Can anyone advise about costs and where to buy in Pattaya thanks fellow mongers.
Day 3 (Wednesday).
OK, after watching the election results, I headed to Soi 6 to celebrate / mourn. It was later in the afternoon and I didn't want to waste too much time, so I picked one of the first girls I saw who I thought was cute. It was Fern from Sexy Inn. Nice legs, slender body and nice face. Did the drinks then upstairs. And now it gets interesting. For the first time ever on Soi 6, when we strip for the shower, she leaves on her bra and panties and tells me to go on and shower alone. Um, ok. I come out and she has taken her bra off to reveal a set of smallish implants not well done. She then goes into the shower before removing her panties, and closes the door. Um, ok. She comes out naked and reveals a trimmed Bush but other than the implants, a nice body. We lie down and she proceeds to give an awesome BBBJ. She is slow and soft and I am in heaven. Most of these girls start off too fast. After a good long while she asks if I am ready for her to climb on and, yes, I am. On goes the condom and she slides herself on, but she acts like I am too big and seem to struggle and maybe feel some pain, but se gets me in. She is a little dry, but after some up and down activity she seems to moisten up, but within a minute she climbs off and asks if I want her to smoke me again (I. E BJ). Well, sure, as it did feel great. So many many more minutes of smoking, as they say, but I cannot come. But I am also wondering if I have TG ladyboy! Her voice is normal, hands are small, so I see no physical clues, but a tight dry vag that really didn't feel right, even though the lube level seemed to increase, and the extreme emphasis on a BJ over intercourse. I don't know!
Either way, Fern was a nice provider if not a little strange, and I really don't want to dwell on if she if she was born a he. As long as they had a V between their legs I guess I won't freak. Anyway, cost was the standard 300/1000. Pleasant girl, really cute and perfect if you want a long, slow BBBJ with little or no intercourse.
I then went back to the hotel and took another nap, waking up around 9 PM. I first went to Soi 6. I intended to especially careful in my selection! I stopped by the Clansman and saw Jan. Another cute girl who gave an awesome BBBJ. No doubt she was a real girl who was funny and accommodating. Really nice time, though the specifics elude me now. Standard 300/1000 and, no, I couldn't come again, but not due to her. She tried and tried. When I couldn't come in my condom, she smoked me again and when that wasn't working she broke out one of her condoms (inferior to mine) and when that didn't work more smoking and even when I told her to stop trying she kept going, sad that she wasn't able to get me off. I will add that she had a great little vag. The feeling of it was superior in one particular position, but I couldn't capitalize on it. I did tip her 100 for her outstanding effort. Great girl, Jan.
I am now getting a bit sexually frustrated, after having a good start. On the baht bus I see a lot of attractive FL girls on BR, so I get off the bus around Soi 7 and start walking back towards my hotel. I make a few passes but decide on a sexy looking girl with bleached hair. Not a spinner, again in that she did not have a tiny body, but one a little more classically shaped meaning she had hips and a waist. She did not have the body of a 20 why / o, but still nice and she had a certain look to her that I liked. She wore blue jean shorts that were bleached in a pattern of tiger stripes I suppose. I mention this as on later days I continued to see her, in the vicinity of Soi 13, wearing the same outfit. Back at the hotel, Tee opted to shower alone and as soon, and as we hit the bed she went to work. That usually bodes poorly, but this girl gave another awesome BBBJ. Whereas Fern had a light touch, she was more firm and a little faster, but not too hard or too fast. It really felt good. This was becoming the day of some of the best BJ's ever. I was thinking that just possibly I could come with this. She stopped and I thought it was over, but it was just to change position, and she went back to work. Good girl. But it was then time to but the condom on and climb aboard and started grinding away. When they grind, it means (I hope) they are rubbing their clit so that it will feel good for them. She did make some legit moans, especially in doggie when being pounded, so I do think she was having a good time. I used the Aoni condom and it worked out fine, though she was using lube so it all worked out. Still, no coming with her though, again, there were times I would get close. She tried hard, going back to BJ then a HJ, but HJs can be painful after a while due to the hand pressure, so I soon had her stop. I should add, for a FL, she was nice and she really tried. Nice body, though not a spinner, and great attitude. Paid her 800 and it was worth it.
After Tee left, I headed to WS. I had now had 3 women (well.) today and wondered if I needed a 4th. I really didn't do much on WS, just walked around a bunch. Still not seeing many Chinese. I visited the discos but they were crowded around midnight and other than Red Car, stayed crowded until close to closing. I did stay a while in Red Car and sat next to an older lady who seemed like I could have gotten her interested, but upon a closer look she was not want I wanted. I left and soon enough the agogos started shutting down and the vendor trucks were moving in. I stayed and walked around for a while. I supposed that many of the girls that come out were players and might have been available, but I didn't try. I went home alone, but I did pass Tee on the way. She remembered me and greeted me warmly as I passed by. This was after 3 AM and WS was pretty bare, but she was there!
Anyway, for the day, two Soi 6 girls, hopefully all female, for 300/1000 each, and a really nice FL girl from BR for 800. Back at the hotel, I researched the Tinder girls some more to arrange something.This non finishing happened to me too a while back after I took Cialis. I could not finish for over a weak! I think the drug was too strong or something and overloaded my system. On the plus side all the girls I was with started calling me a stud and some even started giving me a discount for not making me finish as they felt they were responsible. I tried to explain but the language issue prevented me to fully do so. It sure was a pain though. I feel for you bro.
I also have had problems with finishing and keeping a hard on. I always thought it was due to getting older. Now I know it was because of Adrenal Fatique. My body was trying to keep balance by lowering other body functions and reproduction have then a low priority so it was shut off.
This happened slowly over say four-five years so I never really noticed it since it was no dramatic change. But when completely shut off I did understand something was very wrong. My testosterone also took a nosedive.
But shortly after I was diagnosed and started with medication and in just a couple of days I started get back the sensation and could feel a dramatic change when having sex.
It has now been a year and I am back in business and enjoying sex fully again.
Looking back I understand that a key question the doctor had was if I was experiencing morning wood, I then realized it had been some years since last time.
So maybe a checkup when you get home would be a good idea?
Lone Punter
11-14-16, 04:22
Noble gents,
FL Hawk's trouble might be one of the most severe cases of delayed ejaculation ever reported in SEA and on this board and we certainly all share his pain and praise his courage to talk so openly about his condition. I'm just afraid that the girls on Soi 6, WS and BR start talking and giggling behind his back already and spread the word over the town. As a sign of fairness, I suggest that the early ejaculators come out too!
LP.
So I'll be visiting Pattaya after 2 yrs in the last week of February 17.
My last visit was in Feb 15 for sole purpose of mongering and once before that as just a tourist.
In my last visit I realized that Soi 6 is my thing and I'm not much into soapies. So this time I'm likely to spend more time there. Also Soi 7 n8 will be on radar. Any pointers will be appreciated.
I've been reading Hawk's report and they just perfect to get latest info. Looking foreword to read more and more about Soi 6 from him.
Bye for now.
Cheers!
I would urge my fellow mongers to forget about Russian working girls in Pattaya, or any other parts of Asia. If you really like Russian girls, go to the FKKs in Germany, ton of them there. They cost 50 Euros per session (1/2 hour) plus club entrance fees (60 to 80 Euros). After you've had enough of them there, you will forget about them. They look good but they are generally lousy in the sack. I learned that from experience, after seeing 20+ Russian working girls over the 12 years I've been going to the FKKs.Yes its true that FKK clubs are the best for quality and spending some good time. But in my last 2 visits to FKK clubs specially in Frankfurt there were more Romanian girls than Russian girls. Earlier it used to be mixed crowd and that was a good fun. I don't know the current situation whether they have mixed or Romanian only. So Bro let me know if you visit FKK.
Day 4 (Thursday).
One Tinder girl, who is young a cute with a spinner body, has indicated she wants to meet see. She is a cashier at Tesco Lotus. At 10 AM we arranged a meeting that I understood to mean at noon today, but it is exactly noon as I write this and I have not heard from her. I am just now writing to her. I ask about the 12:00 meeting and she doesn't understand, but then says she wants to still see me today. I say another time is fine, she says ok, I tell her to decide, she doesn't understand. I ask if she wants to come to me, she asks where, I say my hotel and she responds with "ah". Then I hear nothing. I assume that perhaps I misunderstood in that she was not really a FL girl, and the "ah" was her acknowledgement that I was not seeking friendship! But a later she asks if I want a massage and includes some smiley faces. I say that would be nice, she says yes, I ask when, she asks when do I want, I say now is fine, she confirms now, I say yes, she says she can, I tell her my room number after previously telling her my hotel, then she again asks what hotel then how much I will give her for short time, I say 800, she confirms that is ST, I say yes but maybe LT later, she says ok, then I ask when she will be here, and she (sheesh) again asks when I want, I say now, she ask says 30 minutes, I say ok, then a few minutes later asks if she can leave now. Yep. I am here.
From the tender info and pictures, she is cute with braces, 24 and looks younger, with the classic Asian spinner body. This is real time reporting folks! Wish me luck on my first Tender hookup! She is down stairs and on her way up, right on schedule! Wansika is her Tinder name.
Well..major technical goof. I had several days of following posts written, but now on the following Monday afternoon, several days later, it is all gone! It was all there Sunday and I was about to post, but I changed hotels and now it is gone. No back up beyond the previous paragraph. I have no idea what happened. There is hours of lost reporting, and I have forgotten so many details. But, sigh, I have gone back and recreated what I can. It will pick up live again on Day 7.
OK, Wansika was a little weird. She kind of takes control, but is kind of funny too. Cute enough face, skinny, dark body and an ok provider. Sheeh, I have forgotten so much. She was pretty rushed – in and out in 30 minutes or less, and I don't think I came with her, I just gave up. She is on ok provider, but most of the BR FL girls I have been with gave a better performance. See her if you want, but nothing special.
After she left, I worked on this report (obviously in vain), then I believe I headed to Soi 6 later. While in route, it struck me that I wanted to visit a body rub place, so I went up to Honey 2. I went inside and was not impressed. Lots of girls but most overweight. So I went back down to Sabai Dee (she two places are by the Siam at Siam hotel of 2nd street. Not all that much better, but I selected one and I wish I could remember her number as she would be one to avoid. I was trying to pick out a pretty girl, as slender as possible and with a pretty face, and with a big rack. I thought I chose the best, but later found she wore a push up bra that made her look bigger and firmer than she was. She was pleasant, but quite mechanical. First came the body slide, which was fun but too short. Then the bath. It was ok, but a lot of water wasted for just a quick bath. Then to bed, with a too-quick start to a too quick CBJ. Then quickly she climbed on in cow girl. Well, no way was I going to come! To her credit she tried, and even did a BBBJ, concerned I would be upset and would report her I guess. We were to have had 90 minutes. I wasn't there even an hour. The whole concept of a body slide with a sexy girl is wonderful. You see the Japanese porn videos and you long for the experience. This is my second body slide and neither one makes me want to do another. I may still go visit one before I leave, but thus far a big waste of money.
I was so sexually frustrated I hit Soi 6 on the way back and had some random encounter that was good, but not release. Names of the girl and bar are gone, but it was 300/1000.
Later that night I decided to stay up late and get serious with a disco pickup. I was successful! She was middle aged, but still with a nice face and figure and I forgot her name. Previously in my disco attempts, I would just around and see if a lady would smile at me before doing anything, but this time I actually went after her to try to get HER attention. I will spare the details as I don't remember all the details, but see her and said Hello, then when she smiled I asked her where she was from, and it sort of grew from there. I bought her a drink, we kind danced a little, then she signaled her like of me by getting more intimated in her touching. I remember her asking if I wanted her to come to my hotel, I said yes, and she said "you know this will cost you, right?" haha. Yes, 2000. She balked when I said 1500, but whatever. She was with a friend who was looking for a guy but was not successful, so we all went to Marine Bar. Never been there. It was huge inside and far less crowded. We sat at the bar for a while and it was fun to see her friend's reactions so some of the guys that approached. She was at least picky. But it was late so we let her to fend for herself. She was probably early 40's, possibly a little younger, with a relative ok body. Nothing was too flappy or drippy. To keep this much briefer than my original telling, the notable things was not that I still couldn't release with her, but that after much effort trying, she allowed me to go bare back. What led to this is that she was upset with herself that she couldn't make me come. She was doing BBBJ and manual, and I am just going numb, but she keeps me hard and we are facing each other. I figure I will get between her legs and rub on her belly – a few times that has worked, but I never tired it in Thailand. She knows I am bare now, but then I get the bright idea and I can try to enter her, if only for a few seconds, then I will say "oops" and run and take a shower. Well, I am on top between her legs kissing her breasts and I moved up and start rubbing her moist entrance with my thing and she lets me slide on inside. And the difference in feeling was night and day. As I enter her all the way I let out a moan like I have never done. Night and day difference. Sooooo much better bare. Incredible. I managed to stop and say, "oops, I am inside you. " But she says it is ok. I ask if she is ok (clean) and she say she is. Well, ok. But I need to be fast to minimize the risk, and it was fast. I had been totally unable to come with 3 women that day wearing the most advanced condoms made, but going bare I was coming in under 30 seconds. Wow. Note the reason I am not posting the woman's name is not because I forgot (though I have), but I don't want to identify anyone I have gone bare with. I would not want others to contact them with the intent to do the same or, worse, to force them to do the same. We had a level of trust and took the chance.
So, a new record – four women in a single day. It would all have been come-less were it not for my possibly taking a stupid risk. So sorry about the loss of data. I really do like to keep detailed records that I can go back to reference, and I am not computer illiterate and am fairly knowledgeable of Word, so I did something really stupid.
I also have had problems with finishing and keeping a hard on. I always thought it was due to getting older. Now I know it was because of Adrenal Fatique. My body was trying to keep balance by lowering other body functions and reproduction have then a low priority so it was shut off.
This happened slowly over say four-five years so I never really noticed it since it was no dramatic change. But when completely shut off I did understand something was very wrong. My testosterone also took a nosedive.
But shortly after I was diagnosed and started with medication and in just a couple of days I started get back the sensation and could feel a dramatic change when having sex.
It has now been a year and I am back in business and enjoying sex fully again.
Looking back I understand that a key question the doctor had was if I was experiencing morning wood, I then realized it had been some years since last time.
So maybe a checkup when you get home would be a good idea?Thank your sharing, and I am glad you are doing better.
But I do not suffer from wood issues. I have a sensitivity issue with condoms. As my latest report shows, and please no comments on my wisdom of doing what I did, after literally hours of intercourse that day with no luck, when I went bareback I was shooting in 30 seconds. The change of feeings between covered and uncovered, even with the most modern of condoms, was incredible. The initial penetration covered is soso. Bare, I was moaning with pleasure. Difference was huge to me. Why the huge difference I do not understand. I have tried a number of condoms and all are horrible to simply bad. I know even 15 years ago I could come daily with the condoms of the day, so why I am having problems now I do not know.
Transmuter
11-15-16, 18:55
Yes, yes and yes. You can send me a check for $75..DCups,
Thanks!
All others who gave me reply: Thanks a lot!
Please send contact details for the check.
And yes I will report.
I am confident now Baraquda is a good choice and I will take it from there. Pattaya first timer haha.
Any other advice feel free and let me know.
T.
Gin And Tonic
11-15-16, 22:59
Day 4 (Thursday).
One Tinder girl, who is young a cute with a spinner body, has indicated she wants to meet see. She is a cashier at Tesco Lotus. At 10 AM we arranged a meeting that I understood to mean at noon today, but it is exactly noon as I write this and I have not heard from her. I am just now writing to her. I ask about the 12:00 meeting and she doesn't understand, but then says she wants to still see me today. I say another time is fine, she says ok, I tell her to decide, she doesn't understand. I ask if she wants to come to me, she asks where, I say my hotel and she responds with "ah". Then I hear nothing. I assume that perhaps I misunderstood in that she was not really a FL girl, and the "ah" was her acknowledgement that I was not seeking friendship! But a later she asks if I want a massage and includes some smiley faces. I say that would be nice, she says yes, I ask when, she asks when do I want, I say now is fine, she confirms now, I say yes, she says she can, I tell her my room number after previously telling her my hotel, then she again asks what hotel then how much I will give her for short time, I say 800, she confirms that is ST, I say yes but maybe LT later, she says ok, then I ask when she will be here, and she (sheesh) again asks when I want, I say now, she ask says 30 minutes, I say ok, then a few minutes later asks if she can leave now. Yep. I am here.
From the tender info and pictures, she is cute with braces, 24 and looks younger, with the classic Asian spinner body. This is real time reporting folks! Wish me luck on my first Tender hookup! She is down stairs and on her way up, right on schedule! Wansika is her Tinder name.
Well..major technical goof. I had several days of following posts written, but now on the following Monday afternoon, several days later, it is all gone! It was all there Sunday and I was about to post, but I changed hotels and now it is gone. No back up beyond the previous paragraph. I have no idea what happened. There is hours of lost reporting, and I have forgotten so many details. But, sigh, I have gone back and recreated what I can. It will pick up live again on Day 7.
OK, Wansika was a little weird. She kind of takes control, but is kind of funny too. Cute enough face, skinny, dark body and an ok provider. Sheeh, I have forgotten so much. She was pretty rushed in and out in 30 minutes or less, and I don't think I came with her, I just gave up. She is on ok provider, but most of the BR FL girls I have been with gave a better performance. See her if you want, but nothing special.
After she left, I worked on this report (obviously in vain), then I believe I headed to Soi 6 later. While in route, it struck me that I wanted to visit a body rub place, so I went up to Honey 2. I went inside and was not impressed. Lots of girls but most overweight. So I went back down to Sabai Dee (she two places are by the Siam at Siam hotel of 2nd street. Not all that much better, but I selected one and I wish I could remember her number as she would be one to avoid. I was trying to pick out a pretty girl, as slender as possible and with a pretty face, and with a big rack. I thought I chose the best, but later found she wore a push up bra that made her look bigger and firmer than she was. She was pleasant, but quite mechanical. First came the body slide, which was fun but too short. Then the bath. It was ok, but a lot of water wasted for just a quick bath. Then to bed, with a too-quick start to a too quick CBJ. Then quickly she climbed on in cow girl. Well, no way was I going to come! To her credit she tried, and even did a BBBJ, concerned I would be upset and would report her I guess. We were to have had 90 minutes. I wasn't there even an hour. The whole concept of a body slide with a sexy girl is wonderful. You see the Japanese porn videos and you long for the experience. This is my second body slide and neither one makes me want to do another. I may still go visit one before I leave, but thus far a big waste of money.
I was so sexually frustrated I hit Soi 6 on the way back and had some random encounter that was good, but not release. Names of the girl and bar are gone, but it was 300/1000.
Later that night I decided to stay up late and get serious with a disco pickup. I was successful! She was middle aged, but still with a nice face and figure and I forgot her name. Previously in my disco attempts, I would just around and see if a lady would smile at me before doing anything, but this time I actually went after her to try to get HER attention. I will spare the details as I don't remember all the details, but see her and said Hello, then when she smiled I asked her where she was from, and it sort of grew from there. I bought her a drink, we kind danced a little, then she signaled her like of me by getting more intimated in her touching. I remember her asking if I wanted her to come to my hotel, I said yes, and she said "you know this will cost you, right?" haha. Yes, 2000. She balked when I said 1500, but whatever. She was with a friend who was looking for a guy but was not successful, so we all went to Marine Bar. Never been there. It was huge inside and far less crowded. We sat at the bar for a while and it was fun to see her friend's reactions so some of the guys that approached. She was at least picky. But it was late so we let her to fend for herself. She was probably early 40's, possibly a little younger, with a relative ok body. Nothing was too flappy or drippy. To keep this much briefer than my original telling, the notable things was not that I still couldn't release with her, but that after much effort trying, she allowed me to go bare back. What led to this is that she was upset with herself that she couldn't make me come. She was doing BBBJ and manual, and I am just going numb, but she keeps me hard and we are facing each other. I figure I will get between her legs and rub on her belly a few times that has worked, but I never tired it in Thailand. She knows I am bare now, but then I get the bright idea and I can try to enter her, if only for a few seconds, then I will say "oops" and run and take a shower. Well, I am on top between her legs kissing her breasts and I moved up and start rubbing her moist entrance with my thing and she lets me slide on inside. And the difference in feeling was night and day. As I enter her all the way I let out a moan like I have never done. Night and day difference. Sooooo much better bare. Incredible. I managed to stop and say, "oops, I am inside you. " But she says it is ok. I ask if she is ok (clean) and she say she is. Well, ok. But I need to be fast to minimize the risk, and it was fast. I had been totally unable to come with 3 women that day wearing the most advanced condoms made, but going bare I was coming in under 30 seconds. Wow. Note the reason I am not posting the woman's name is not because I forgot (though I have), but I don't want to identify anyone I have gone bare with. I would not want others to contact them with the intent to do the same or, worse, to force them to do the same. We had a level of trust and took the chance.
So, a new record four women in a single day. It would all have been come-less were it not for my possibly taking a stupid risk. So sorry about the loss of data. I really do like to keep detailed records that I can go back to reference, and I am not computer illiterate and am fairly knowledgeable of Word, so I did something really stupid.Truth be told half or better of all types of Thai ładies will go without if you spend some time warming them up. This would be less likely with Soapies and higher end GoGos but the rest more so.
Anybody willing to bare back is freaking crazy.
I broke a condom in a girl and was in her for less than 2 seconds. I was scared for six months until I finally got tested and came back clean.
I am scared out of my mind of that stuff.
Don't do it, not even once!
Day 5 – Friday.
I went to Soi 6 and saw Tuk again, at the My Friend You BJ bar. Tuk was my first girl of this trip and was a wild one. For the BJ, she was wild but only took her top off, but as she appeared to have one tight little body, plus she was so crazy, I wanted to experience FS with her. Well, as I walked by we noticed each other at about the same time, so I went over. Now last time, it was 300 BF plus 700 for her, with the understanding that FS would be 300 and 1000. But all she charged me was 1000 for FS. We went upstairs and she was again crazy. She loves giving head, and that is what the majority of our time was spent doing. She is incredible. She was sluping away for 10 to 15 minutes before a condom went on. And she was just as crazy with FS and, when I had my releasing problems, she was all too happy to go back to slurping and doing anything else that might get me off. Nothing worked, but I tipped her extra for trying even harder than most. Guys, go see Tuk and even if you have to pay 300 more for FS, it is far more comfortable upstairs in a bed, and you will get the same slurping BJ. She earns my Best Buy girl of the trip.
In the late afternoon I picked up a nice, but sexy looking BR freelance girl. She has bleached hair, a bit curvy in that she is not a spinner – she has a woman's figure, and her bleached hair gives her a wild look. She wore short blue jean shorts, which had bleached stripes. I have seen her since and she has been wearing the same outfit. She is really a nice girl and she gave a nice BBBJ and when I was again unable to come, she tried more oral and manual to try. Sometimes we think these girls are cold and hardened, but I have found most that I have met to be somewhat caring at least. I forgot her name, and she wanted 800. Good girl.
I took a nap and that night went to WS. Due to my success with a disco, and liking of the less crowded Marine bar, I went there around midnight. I had several pages written about what happened in full details, but I will have to condense everything down to the basics. I went in with a plan, choosing what I thought would be a strategic location as there were still a number of empty tables, and I lucked out. Let me note that just because you claim an empty table that others won't claim their share of it when it gets crowded. As the place got busier, several girls came over and sat their glasses down. On either side of me, girls were claiming parts of the tables. This was getting interesting. I got a few looks of acknowledgements, then a cutie sets at a table near mine, and she smiles at me. A chubby girl sets at my table and chats with me a bit, which is actually helpful as it gets me engaged, and the others girls see this and that possibly shows I am open and friendly. A girl at a table to the other side sides down. Wow, she is decent looking and she has some large knockers. But I have zeroed on a girl to the right who had smiled at me. Older, yet still with a decent figure, I think she could be fun. I plot to ask her if I can buy her another beer as I see her bottle is nearly used. Then a dude comes by and they talk for a while. I am too late. Then the big boobed girl to the left has a dude talking to her. Yikes. I blew it. But no, the dude talking to the older girl leaves, so without wasting time I lean over the table, past the fat chick, tap the girl on her shoulder, and ask if I can buy her another drink. She is surprised, but smiles and says yes. I grab a server and get the drink ordered. Later, after the drink is ordered, she girl looks back, we toast, and then she motions me to come over. I do. But bummer, the music in there in insanely loud, plus she has a not so sexy voice and the English is not good, but we are not her for intellectual conversation. A little later her friend's drink is about finished, so realizing that Thai women like their men to make them look good to their friends, I offer to buy the friend a drink. Hmm, this is working as she now starts to touch me a little more intimately. And, no, I don't remember her name. Bummer. Another friend joins us a while later, and I buy that friend a drink too. I am in now. She is really holding me and we gyrate to the music and I know she is going home with me. She does, and she surprises me by riding me to the hotel on her motor bike. Cool.
Her body is ok. She has braces on her teeth and is probably somewhere around 40. She has a little bit of a belly but still nicely figured with full breasts with a little sagging, but overall for a mature lady, not bad. Looked at from behind, hot actually. But that voice, so hard to understand. I really don't remember too much of the encounter back at the hotel. She gave a nice BBBJ and a near GFE in many ways, but I couldn't get off with her. Well, I came yesterday, so this was expected using a condom. She was nice enough and she spent the night, but had to leave the next morning, around 9, to go work with her mother. Overall, nice girl but not sure I would want to see her again.
Summary: Soi 6 girl with bareback finish and standard 300/1000; BR girl for 800 and Marine Bar disco pickup for 2000.
Truth be told half or better of all types of Thai ładies will go without if you spend some time warming them up. This would be less likely with Soapies and higher end GoGos but the rest more so.I am not really seeking out bareback. I would be too afraid to actively seek a girl to do it. If she has something, while I think most would not volunteer to do it, if the guy is encouraging them and offering extra money, then why not? If you ask for it, you take the risk. Of course, a girls volunteering it may not know they have something, so there is always a risk. I washed well quickly afterwards, but stuff can still happen.
But, yes, it is available and you might be able to talk a girl into doing it by pretending to have issues like mine, but out of dozens and dozens of girls now, only 2 have volunteered to do it to help me with my problem. I hope they are indeed clean, but especially if you are offering money to get it, you are taking a huge risk. A poor girl with herpes who is offered a few hundred baht to go bare with a guy who will leave in a few days. Well, he knows the risks.
And I don't know that if I did pick up something I will let you guys know! Haha Right now, the Johnson is a little sore overall, but that is due to all the pounding I am taking by the 2 to 4 girls a day who are trying to get me to come manually!
Day 6 –Saturday.
I am still cloudy about some things that happened. Still cursing myself over losing all the reports I wrote before. After today things should returning to normal. But pretty sure I started the day off with a Soi 6 girl, but no names.
In the late afternoon I picked up a really cute BR freelance girl. She is classy looking, tall with long hair, cute face and smile. Kind of looks like a really cute college student. She operates close to Soi 13, and her name escapes me. But she gave a really good time. Great BBBJ and she really tried hard to please. I could consider seeing her again for 800. My original report had some good details, but oh well. I saw her Sunday night as I was walking home and she recognized me, but I didn't her until I had passed. I don't remember much of the details, but she was delightful. I remember that. I would consider seeing her again, but I wish I could remember her name. Sorry that this helps absolutely no one, other than that there are some quality girls on BR.
Later, I thought of recreating my success at Marine, but even at 1 AM it was dead. Strange, as I-Bar and Red Car where packed. I went to Pheromone's to see #2, but I didn't find her. But #86 looked pretty good. Nice, more mature figure with nice boobs and pretty smile. Not the hottest, but she had that girl next door. Did I mention she had some nice boobs? I asked the manasan to bring her over. She was pleasant but with some English problems, and was friendly and liked to laugh. That is often a good sign. I knew from a few days earlier the BF here was 1500 and the lady 2000ST. I paid the bill and we left. She was now dressed rather plainly, long white pants, a white shirt and NY baseball hat that accentuated the notion she was a girl next door. She said she had a motor bike, so we went to the back lot, then she asked if I was hungry. Not really, but she obviously was so we ate at this place there behind WS. It was pretty good and reasonably priced. Then off we went. Again, her English was difficult, and she seemed a little wacky, or maybe it was just our weak communications. She kept smiling and telling me she liked me. At the hotel, she wanted her money and I said, no, not until we are done, but I will show it to you. I showed her 2000. She said no, 3000, and we entered a broken discussion, but I was thinking ST and she was planning to spend the night and was expecting LT. It was difficult to get this simple misunderstanding resolved. I don't nnow that I was looking for LT, but whatever. She is cute so I can stand to have her share my bed.
We start some light kissing then she asks if I have a condom and before I am even half hard, she starts to slip it on. No, I say, wait a while. She waits maybe 5 seconds, then uses her mouth to slide it on. Oral is over and done quickly then while still semi-erect, she climbs on. I am not really happy here and things just went downhill from there. I stop the action. She acts like she doesn't really understand. She laid next to me still stroking, but my desire is destroyed and a little later I remove the condom from my limp Johnson and go take a shower. She looks at me with no understanding. I halfway expect her to ask if she can leave, but she doesn't, and as I get in bed and pull up the covers, she slides next to me, again saying she likes me, and wants my Line ID. I give it to her, then we both get back in bed and go to sleep. I really do think she doesn't understand I am upset at her rushing me, and doesn't understand why I stopped things so soon.
Next morning, it is Sunday morning and my stay at the Dynasty Inn is coming to a close. I need to pack, check out, and check in at the Sandy Spring. She had said that she would stay until 10 PM, but we didn't wake up until after 10, and she was still here with me. I don't know that she understood I was not happy with the sex, but even lying in bed half naked that morning, she did not make any attempt to get things going. I was rubbing her, playing with those beasts, but still nothing from her back, but she is saying she likes me and I think she wants to do things with me. I sort of consider it, but dismiss and the language barrier is too great. I now really believe she just didn't understand and was confused at me, but I get stubborn at times.
She offered to drive me down to the hotel on her bike, which I agreed. I was first going to make sure all was fine there before leaving the Dynasty. All was fine and I made the switch at about 11:30. She rode off, hoping we could see each other again. I later later received a Line message asking if I wanted her to come back after she got off work. Well, not for 3000! I replied that I was not happy with the sex, but that I did like her and if she wanted to come by as a friend for no money, then sure, but no sex, at least not yet. I never heard back from her. She is a nice girl, but maybe our expectations were different. I really don't think she tried to take advantage of me in any way. When we woke up, she stayed right there in bed with me, topless, letting me play with her, though no returning much affection, but saying she liked me. I don't know. I won't not recommend her, but if you speak Thai I think she might be pleasant for you, you may indeed have a better experience. My stubbornness got in the way, and had I handled things a little different I might have been quite happy.
Summary for the day: Random Soi 6 girl; Random BR FL girl for 800; #86 from Pheromone's for 1500/3000.
Day 7 - Sunday.
I went up to Soi 6 mid-afternoon. The pickings were not especially great. I walked all the way down, then all the way back, embarrassed by all the exposure to the girls who may be getting pathetic seeing me so often. On the way back I did stop to talk to two who at first glance looked promising, but after getting up close I decided to pass. I was coming back around the start a third pass when I saw her. Spinner body with awesome legs. There was actually some shape to them, like she was a runner. Face was so so, but I liked her smile sufficiently enough that I went over. I almost passed her by as the English was not so good, but I stuck it out and am glad I did.
We talked and after I bought her a drink she warmed up to me and started kissing and touching me in the bar. She almost seemed surprised when the manasan came over and asked if I wanted her and I said yes. Standard 300/1000. Up we went, and this is when the typical became atypical. We undressed, but when I was done, she still sitting, and I went over to sit next to her. She kissed me, and that escalated to touching and groping and, well, I just push her back on the bed and sparks started flying. No, no shower. Just passion. Not really sure why, as I now can tell she was a mommie by a long see section scar. Her breasts were deflated and ugly, actually, but I overlooked that. I was touching her all over and she was DFKing me. I slowly moved my hand down and before long was rubbing her clit, and she was getting more passionate. I found her hole and was surprised at how tight it was. It really clamped down on just a single finger that I inserted. She is moaning in real, unfaked pleasure. No doubt. She is dripping wet. I am rubbing her G spot. She lets me do this for many minutes. Eventually, she asks me to mount her, so I guess no BJ, but that is ok. I put on my Anoi and dig in. She feels so tight. I am wondering if she might be the one to get me off. It has been too long. We try. Different positions and I am alternating between pounding her and being gentle and everything in between. She is still moaning and positioning herself where it feels best for her, and when she is on top she is grinds hard. But nothing. I can't come. I pull off and lay next to her. She keeps rubbing me, trying to keep me hard, which is difficult with the condom on. I finally remove the condom, lying next to her, facing her. She keeps rubbing and gets me back fully hard. I am kissing her, in close. She is moving a bit, repositiong my Johnson between my legs and, wait, what is she doing? I figure it out in wondrous sensations as she impales me. I am bare in a woman yet again and the feelings are indescribable. Rather than stop and pull or ask questions, I just concentrate on coming so I can get to the shower. Sure enough just like two days before, in 30 seconds I empty myself deep inside her. I then quickly pull out and run to the shower. OMG. I am still having trouble believing that even my super thin condoms hide so many of the feelings. I mean, the difference of bare sex compared with the ordinary condom is like seeing the most beautiful sunset on an old 12" NTSC portable TV using rabbit ears to get a station 50 miles away. My thin condoms are like watching it on a 25" TV using a deep fringe antenna, much better but still missing so much of the beauty. Of course, I have to be concerned about BB sex, but my general belief that most girls don't volunteer it if they know they are diseased. Now, I could again enter into a moral discussion here, about the risks and all of that, but I know all of that so please let's not have that discussion here. I am reporting what happened, and it happened, and I am wondering why, after having several dozen bar girls before, why have two gone bare with me in as many days? Random odds, I suppose. But anywasy, for some reason, we really hit it off, and when she failed to get me off, whatever trust she developed led her to do it. So I don't think this happens often. And I didn't seek it out, so time will tell how stupid I was to not sense what she was doing and stop it, or me failing to pull out as soon as I knew what she was doing.
Overall, this was a GFE. I tipped her 300 to her great surprise. I wonder if should have done that, as I should not reward her for giving BBFS, but I believe this was a special situation for her and that she would not do it were she not clean. Did I hear some snickering out there? Yeah, even I don't fully believe it either.
Afterwards, she stuck close to me, walking me all the way to the outside, which most girls don't. So she felt something towards me. Now I need to decide if I am going to try to avoid her. Once a girl opens up like that they can be upset if you "cheat" on them. I can't risk more BB with her, as tempting as full BB session with her would be.
Personal note. I am not giving out her name is that I don't want people going to her bugging her for unprotected sex. But I like her and I want to have her name in my records. So, for me in the future, her name the name of a departed aunt who once lived in Beaumont. The name of bars starts with the first letter of my grandfather, the second is the first letter of the state my parents moved to after I graduated high school, the third is the first letter of my grandcat.
Anyway, I went back to the hotel and I napped that afternoon and did some stuff, then headed out to WS around 9 PM. I continue to get just a few hours sleep each night, but a nap for an hour or two, and waking up from this nap is difficult, but it has to be done. I had not really planned what I was going to do. I was open for a FL girl, so I walked all the way down to WS on BR from Soi 13. There were some good girls out, but nothing that made me stop. I did a lot of walking around WS and checked the discos (Marine Bar was still bare, yet WS is packed). Red Car is packed. I consider trying to find someone there, but I am tired. I go back to Runway, which I reported has some really cute girls. I settle for one I like, named Oil. I don't remember her number, but she has a nice body and legs, super cute face and short, thick hair. The mamasan had come over to see if I liked anyone and I told her yes and who it was, and she got the girl to come over. I was not sure if she found me acceptable as she looks pretty young, and when the mamasan asked if I would like the girl, I say yes if the girl likes me. The mamasan laughs and says if I have the money she will like me, haha. She is steep at 2500, and I pause a good long while, but break down and agree. Sorry guys. That is too much but it was late and I was have been faced with going to another bar and being up another half hour or longer, so I bit the bullet.
She had a motor bike and she drove us to the hotel. We go over to the front desk and she finds she doesn't have her ID. She is going to have to leave to go get it. It will only take her 5 minutes. Um. But she hands me her purse, takes out her phone and some cash, and rushes out to find a motor bike driver. And ten minutes later she is back. Upstairs we go, showers taken, and in bed we get. I am thinking a girl like this will be cold, but she starts into some serious kissing and DFK. I will note her breasts are disappointing. Flat and obviously suckled on by a hunger baby. She has no resistance as I probe her hole, and I am shocked to find it so loose! I can easily inserted two fingers without stretching! Hmmm, not sure now this girl is going to feel. She is getting passionate and very wet, so she is certainly enjoying things. Some of the girls really do like having sex with strangers and can get off, as she was. But she wanted a condom for BJ. The lube on these has to be nasty and she tried to wipe of the lube as best she could, and before long she was climbing on top. Like I feared, there was hardly any feeling. She was so loose, I felt sorry. Such a pretty girl. I was thinking that for her to feel anything she probably needed a hung stud. Poor guy with a normal or smaller dick, as he won't feel much. In certain positions I could get some feeling, but I knew quickly I was not going to come with this girl. Very pretty, smoking hot body (other than breasts and internal) and face with soft brown hair. I finally gave up and she continued to try. We were tired and she rested on the stomach. I gave her a massage, which was a surprise to her and was welcomed. I then went to take a shower, then she got up, asking what time it was. I don't remember, but it was later than she though so she started rushing to leave. I was promised 2 hours, and I certainly got that. She did not rush her goodbye, so I think she liked me and appreciated the time. But no way can I recommend her for guys who are not pretty big. What a shame as she is a nice girl.
Summary: GFE Soi 6 girl gives bare back FS for 300/1000 plus I left a big tip. Pheromone's girl that night for 1000/2500, but with a hole to house an aircraft carrier.
Day 8 - Monday.
Ok, this is the day I discovered I had lost the last several day's worth of reports. What a bummer. No autorecovery, so I must have done something strange. Sigh. Oh well, no use dwelling on the possibilities now. I am computer literate and can't find the lost files anywhere on the drive, so I did something done and unrecoverable.
Anyway, I woke up early for some reason, like at 7:30. Bummer. Went to breakfast then back to my hotel to rewrite some of what was lost. Headed out for Soi 6 at about 2 PM. I entered on the alley just south of Soi 6 to the girl who did me bare in a GFE. I could tell she really liked me a bit too much and I wanted to avoid her and potentially do it again. Well, duh, I didn't go down far enough and she sees me. I am not heartless to just walk by, so I go over and consider simply buying her a drink. Well, yeah, that worked out great as temptation won and I up stairs with her. There was not the passion this time, at least for me, but she was having a BFE I think. No faking at all. It wasn't too much different that the first time, except for the ending. It was all covered. When I was exhausted and we were laying down together and she was rubbing me, I didn't remove the cover, though several times she still pulled me in, perhaps as much to give me pleasure as her. I noted to myself how much tighter this girl was than Oil. Anyway, it was clear she likes me, holding on to me after we had gone down stairs, to sit and hang together a little while longer. She wants me to come back, and seemed concerned that when I left her I might go down the street to another girl. Well. Sigh.
I did go down the street and at Kiss Kool, a girl who called out to me yesterday and I had said "maybe tomorrow" as I walked but, saw me and reminded me of that half-promise. I did not find her all that attractive, but I went over and I would buy her a drink then, and she took me inside. She claimed she knew me from last May, saying her name was Pawn. Hmmmm. I didn't really find her familiar, but I started to remember the bar and her name. She said I was with her 3 times. No way. When she said I came each time, well haha, absolutely no way! I have had not girl in Pattaya more than twice yet. I can believe that possibly I was with her, but I have no recollection of what we may have done. She was really trying to get me to BF her, continuing to touch me all over and talked about me coming in her mouth, but she was no spinner and I didn't find her all that attractive. I think she was making things up, so I checked the archives. I find that I did indeed I visit her (though her name is erroneous Paula there) and enjoyed her, saying she was pretty and slender. Well not anymore. She has gained some poundage and was covered with makeup. I guess her performance was a little rushed but acceptable back then, but this time around I had not been giving her any look at all. I will continue to avoid her.
On my way back I was amazed to see throngs of people on BR with many sellers of flowers or things made of flowers. I went to the hotel and grabbed my camera and went back out for pictures, learning this was the Loy Krathong festival. What I was seeing were thousands of handmade Krahongs being made and sold, which are little boats made of flowers and plants, with a candle and incense. Coming at the night of the full moon in November, the launching of these little boats symbolizes the flying away of misfortune of the past as the current or tide floats them away, and asking for good fortune for the future. Starting a sun set at well into the wee hours of the morning, you could see this little things slowly washing out, though in the ocean, the effect is different than the traditional rivers, where they would actually flow out of view.
I took a nap after that and set our for WS around 9 PM I guess. It was jammed. I have been seeing more Chinese, but there were a lot of normal Thai's out tonight. I visited a few clubs, some packed as well and there were several that interested me, but I chose no one. I ate dinner at the NY Diner then decided to check out the FL scene on BR, but it was also jammed with those celebrating Loy Krathong. I was tired, still sleeping on 4 or 5 hours a night, plus maybe an hour or two of napping, and considered calling it a night. But standing in my room, I told myself I have only 3 more nights here after this, and who knows if I will be back here again, so dang it man, get out of here and go get some!
I went to Soi 6. I properly avoided the girl who did me bare, and stopped when I saw a cute spinner at some random bar. Shared drinks but it was by now 12:30 AM and she said she was getting off at 1 AM, when the place closed to celebrate Loy Krathong. Just wasted a lady drink. Oh well, so I left and headed back to WS. It was still jammed. I went inside Red Car and it was packed. The girl I picked up at Marine Bar was there. We talked briefly, which was difficult due to her English (or my Thai) and it being so loud. I gracefully exited and went to Marine. It was a little busy, so I set up at a table to try out what worked the last time. Well, the girl from Red Card and her friend went there as well as sat down next to me. Awkward. She is still pretty, but been there, done that. I did contemplate asking her to go with me so I would be with someone that night, but I discarded that idea. Another friend of hers came over and she was chatting with her, looking away from me, so I took the distraction to bolt. I am such a terrible person. Sigh. I just decided to go home via WS. The crowds were dying, but just before Soi 13 I noticed a very sex women. I passed her by, but then turned back to go say Hello,. She was quite attractive and negations went quick. But as we were walking away, a cop I hadn't notice was just passing by and he said something. Yikes! He just witnessed a pickup! She said something back to him and we kept walking and that was the end of the matter, fortunately. But even if he heard, the conversation was like "Hi, how are you, would you like to go with me?" "I will for 800 baht. " "ok. ".
Back at the hotel, it became evident she was worth the price. Beautiful body. Great skin, beautiful face, see boobs that, if they were enhanced, was a perfect job as they were firm and of a perfect shape. She let me bask in her beauty for a while. FIV revealed a super tight snatch that was wet. This girl knew she was hot and it showed, and it showed that she enjoyed the lust she produced. I had momentary thoughts she might be a LB, but the internal probing revealed a prefect vag, and the size of her nipples proved this was 100% woman. Entering her was awesome. Well, as awesome as it can be with a condom. Might I come with her? It has been 2 days now. I am charged. I am ready to let lose. After a few positions I am ready. I get right to the point of no return, but I [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116) out from the activity and lose it. Argh again! Why? In frustration I remove the Aoni condom and replace it with the Sagami, both. 01 condoms. I don't notice much difference, but I get close again before failing. Sigh. Bare back in her and it would have been over in 10 seconds. Oh well. She was sympathetic, but what can you do? She left, saying she was going home. I shower and go to bed.
Tomorrow? I guess the same routine. I have not gone to Kenaree (sp), and probably won't as I missed the BBQ. I will probably head to Soi 6 this afternoon, but I might stop and tour Soi 7 again. I haven't been there the last few trips. I may get my hair cut and visit the outlet mall across the street. When I first arrived last week the weather was nice, but now it is hot and humid. But to summarize today, I revisited the girl who did me bare, who didn'the redo me bare, for more passio for 300/1000. And I did a beautiful BR girl for 800. While accommodating, she knows she is hot and pretty much just me bask in her beauty while watching me fail as a man.
Summary: Random Soi 6 girl for 300/1000 and beautiful BR FL girl for 800.
Guys, sorry for throwing all these reports at you at once, but I want to get them out. I am almost caught up finally.
Of course, I have to be concerned about BB sex, but my general belief that most girls don't volunteer it if they know they are diseased.
Oh, I don't think that is the reason they don't volunteer it at all. Far more likely is they don't bring it up because you aren't asking them for it despite it appearing to be the obvious solution in your case. They are probably assuming wearing a condom with them is too high a priority for you to even hint at a desire to go without one. Are YOU diseased? Do you think THEY are diseased? They have no idea what the reason is you are not broaching the subject when you hit a wall of resistance from cumming and possibly going BB would be the next logical topic of discussion. And no matter how fluent in your language they might be they are not prepared to launch into a detailed conversation about this topic.
I have no doubt that the number of ladies willing to go BB with you at a time of difficulty as you described, or simply because you want it that way regardless of any difficulty, would be much much higher than the number volunteering it on their own (I recall you said only 2 out of a couple of dozen, right?) if you were the one to bring it up first. Especially if your bringing it up is accompanied by an offer to sweeten the baht deal a little more to help lesson any concerns she might have about it.
There is also the ever present matter of "face" involved in this. If she brings up the subject first you might think she offers BBFS to every customer. And she would rather watch you writhe in agony and go without cumming than risk that.
SeanSharma87
11-17-16, 04:37
My concern with such situations is not that I am worried about any scams, but more that I simply may not be compatible with her for the duration of the trip.
It is easy to be infatuated with a profile and picture of a beautiful woman online. But let's say you meet her and everything seems to check out. But you are now stuck with her for the remainder of the trip. What if something happens, or you realize that you really aren't that much into her. Now you have to drag her around everywhere or go your separate ways. Can be very inconvenient.
You can always meet a girl in Thailand first and if you have chemistry then take her on trips. I am not saying not to do what you are doing, but just something to keep in mind.
Just curious what your goal is here. Are you looking for relatively inexpensive companionship in terms of not having to worry about barfines and the girl's fee? A potentially more serious relationship partner?You were so right. It was a disaster. Totally a opposite personality, I can't stand that for an hour. Vice suggestions. I was looking not be alone. I was travelling alone which I really don't like. BTW it's not inexpensive at all. She was Very demanding buy this buy that.
Day 9 – Tuesday.
Woke up and too early and went to my new favorite place for breakfast. The Green Bottle Indian Restaurant is a couple blocks north on Soi 13 on the east side, which has a breakfast buffet for 130 baht, which is 10 baht less that the regular breakfast I was getting at Bay Watch. For 10 baht less, I get the same thing, but more. I am sure there are other equally, or better, values, but this place is decent.
After breakfast, I worked on reports and other stuff, then finally headed out to Soi 6 a little after 2 PM. I admit going to Soi 6 everyday is getting a little boring, but I remind myself that after today, I will only have two days left. Strange that at the end of a visit you get bored with having to face hundreds of girls who want to have sex with you, but when you are packing to leave, you find yourself wondering when you will be able to return!
Arriving at Soi 6, I thought I need to avoid the girl who did me bare, so I consider going down, what, Soi 6/1 for a ways, then cross back over when I was passed her bar. But doing this one has to be careful as LB's hang back there and will often come out and harass you. But I don't, thinking I need to be a man, so head on down Soi 6, and she spots me. She is actually dressed up a bit. She does not look like a bar girl at all. Is she dressing like this for me? She happily greats me, but I say I will just buy her a drink, but she is going all out to entice me in and, yeah, I break down and go up with her. There is something to say about being with someone you know, and I am certainly getting to know her. Well, we can barely communicate and having hardly anything to talk about, but. I am tired and tell her so, but up in the room she gets me going and again, I can tell she is getting off on it after the mounts me. But I go a tad limp after a while. I lay by her side and she is rubbing me. After I while I remove the condom and she asks why. I say because I can't feel anything with it. I did not exactly remove it hoping she would do what she did the first time – give me bareback – but simply so that it would feel better if she was going to rub me. I would have been ok ending it all then. With the cover gone, she says it is no good, meaning not using a condom is no good. I agreed with her. She starts rubbing me again and manages to bring me back to life. Then she starts to maneuver me back on top of her between her legs. Hmmmmm Yes, she wants me back inside her bare. Well, ok dummy. In I go and. Well, you know. Heaven. And again, within in 30 seconds, I counted, I was coming. Amazing. And again, I rush to the shower to wash. She says she likes me and again wants to see me tomorrow. I hedge a bit, and feel that maybe this will be the last time I will see her at all. She is getting attached and I don't want to deal with a good bye Thursday. IDK. But after the shower she clings on for a while, but by 4 it was time to leave. Another GFE, but yet I know she could never be an actual GF. I feel a little guilty for the feelings she appears to be having, but have to admit a part of that is business.
I head back to the hotel. I am thinking I need a haircut. There looks to be a cute stylist in a shop on Soi 13 close to BR. I consider going in but don't. Maybe later. I write more on the reports and other things, and as it gets dark decide to take a nap. I have 3 nights left here, and I need to make the most of it. I can add that I have been suffering from some allergies over the last few days. Nothing major, just having to blow my nose a bit. The weather upon arrival was great, but it is back to being hot, so maybe the allergies are due to that.
Took a nap and set off for WS at around 10 PM. It was again very crowded. I visited a couple of gogo clubs, and I was contemplating a disco pickup. Around midnight I went to Red Car, which was starting to hop, but the girl I picked up at the Marine Bar pickup was there, and it was a little awkward. You may recall I walked off on her the day before when she wasn't looking. I said Hello, and she was polite back, but I didn't stick around. I went to I-Bar and rather than just walk through and exit, I stuck around and watched, and found that I was getting more comfortable. There was a blond Thai lady playing pool who was hot. Out of my league I think, but if she a FL, all things are possible. I leave with a tentative plan to come back later. I go to Sugar Baby just to see if Bell is there and she is not, but there are full nude shows going on. Several in the shower area and several doing simulated sex. But no one there is really turning me on. I go to Skyfall, and they have a full lineup. I end up sitting by two young spinners and end buying them each a drink. They are fun and I ask the rates. They say the BF is 1500 before 12 PM and 1000 after, and they are 1000 for ST. Less expensive than I thought for there, and they close at 4 AM. OK, I think, it is 12:30 AM or so now, so I have plenty of time. I leave and go to Red Car and it is hopping and I walk around and see some potential targets. But then I feel a poke in the side and I turn around and there is the first woman I picked up there a week ago, who gave me my first bare back, whose name is lost. I wasn't sure if I wanted to get stuck with her, but she went all out to hook me and I thought why not. If she can assure me she is clean then maybe I can get in another bare back, not that I should regardless. So, I ended up taking her home, but she is wasted. Leaving WS she doesn't even want to walk with me. OK. I think if she falls too far behind maybe I will walk off and leave her. But she doesn't. In bed, I would be ok just falling asleep, but she does her duty and pulls the covers back to give a nice, but short, BBBJ. She asks for a condom, which always breaks the mood, and climbs on. She is vocal this time, saying "oh, after a week of no sex that feels so good" and the other standard hooker lines. Has she really been waiting for me and really have no sex since me? Haha, I doubt it. She pumps and grinds on top and perhaps she comes. We roll over in missionary and she tells me to make her come again. Some of it feels ok but I am not really in the mood and end up faking an orgasm and, after a quick shower, fall asleep quickly. She wakes before me around 8 AM, saying it is too hot in the room (saying this will all the covers on top of her), and wants to leave. Fine. I give her 1500, less than she wanted the first time, and she accepted it then left, hungover.
One side story. I was in one of the smaller clubs on WS, don't remember which, and a bunch of Chinese tourists walk in, including women! Yikes, are the tour groups now touring the agogo? Well, room was made for them and they all bought beers. I thought it was funny. No idea how long they stayed as I left soon after.
Bummer that I let this happen. I only have two days left in Pattaya, and I left some hot spinners in Skyfall or some other hotter pickup at either Red Card or I-Bar for her? Who knows. I know, I am too nice. I avoided the Marine Bar girl, but failed to do so with this woman. Won't happen again.
One side story. I was in one of the smaller clubs on WS, don't remember which, and a bunch of Chinese tourists walk in, including women! Yikes, are the tour groups now touring the agogo? Well, room was made for them and they all bought beers. I thought it was funny. No idea how long they stayed as I left soon after.
Summary: A day or repeats. I had one last time, too, so I guess I haven't yet learned my lesson. The Soi 6 girls remains good, but other than her, my experiences have been that the second time is usually not better. But, I had the Soi 6 girl who did me bare for 300/1000, and the original Red Car pickup woman for 1500.
FunExplorer
11-17-16, 11:54
Hello,
I want to have a holiday in Pattaya in December and I assume girls may spice up may holidays.
As a first timer (don't blame me if I have overlooked comments in the forum) I have some questions:
1. "Walking Street" in Pattaya South is the action, right? Or other places you would recommend?
2. If I book a five star resort there (eg. , Sofitel close to the Walking Street), are they "girl friendly"? How difficult it may be to bring a part time lover to such compound? Any suggestions where it is easier?
3. Any possibility to find limited time GF in advance to reduce the burden of hunting every night?
T.Obviously, you have not done any research at all. I strongly recommend you to go through at least past 100 to 150 pages to get an idea and learn more about the place.
1. Of course, Walking Street could be rightly considered as the most happening place with lot of go go bars, although there are a whole lot of beer bars where girls are aplenty. The whole of Pattaya is filled with girls. There should not be any problem in finding a girl you want ranging from 500 to 5000 Baht or more, depending upon your liking.
2. To the best of my knowledge, almost all hotels are girl friendly in Pattaya. They precisely know why you are there. You can also visit www.pattayaguestfriendlyhotels.com/ if you want to make sure about the same. The best thing is to call the hotel and ask them so.
3. Scouting to find girl in advance is quite a laborious process, at least for me and therefore, I have not ventured that.
Eszpresszo
11-18-16, 00:12
Anybody willing to bare back is freaking crazy.
I broke a condom in a girl and was in her for less than 2 seconds. I was scared for six months until I finally got tested and came back clean.
I am scared out of my mind of that stuff.
Don't do it, not even once!What brand of condom were you using, what condition was it in, how well did it fit, and how adequate was the lubrication. Either natural or synthetic?
I ask, because condoms in theory should rarely break in ordinary usage, if those four factors are right for the job.
I've only had a condom break on me twice. In hindsight, I can see why they did. The first time was when I was just starting to use condoms in the 80's (prior to AIDS, they were seen as silly. Birth control? That's what birth control pills were for.) I didn't really understand how my particular "size" was bigger than average and had always assumed that condoms were supposed to fit tight like a sausage casing. I had bought some "extra thin" off brand line of condoms, stashed it in my wallet, and whipped it out for sex with a tiny Filipino with a tiny, ultra tight twat. Imagine my surprise. And her anger. When I pulled out and found the head of my cock had ripped through the end of the condom. We apparently emerged unscathed by that event. She never called me back to say she was pregnant. But, I became dubious of the "extra thin" condoms, until I recently read that a report on condom testing and quality, which put Lifestyles Ultra Thin at the top of the list for strength and durability. Evidently, thickness of the latex is not the factor in strength that you would think it is.
Next time a condom broke, it had worse consequences than an angry, coked-up Filipino. I had a serious girlfriend, who was not on birth control. We were playing around one evening, she said we needed a condom, because she was likely ovulating. The only thing I had was some gimmick condom I think it was called "Condomints", which was a gag condom in a mint package. That stuff seriously needs to be banned. It wasn't fit for use and if I had half a brain I would have realized that. I blew my nuts inside her but didn't realize it until I pulled out and saw the condom was torn open at the tip. We didn't fret too much at the time, but a few weeks later we were pooling our limited funds together for an abortion.
I've learned a lot about condoms since then most notably that I need a large size. I am not of pornstar proportions, but still too big for the standard condoms. Aside from being safer, and not stretching the condom around my cock, the large sizes also gives a much better sensation. Some guys are smaller, but we now have smaller condoms for a "snugger" fit. I suggest everybody find a condom that fits them well, and a secure way to carry them around (and that is not in your wallet, or anyplace where they can be crushed.).
Using a quality brand of condoms seems to be a factor in safety, as well (duh!) I'm not hearing people complaining about how top-quality condoms have failed them. That's why I carry my own around. For some reason, working girls from Berlin to Medellin use some cheap, old style condoms (the kind they used to send you for free in the mail as a promo), which I'm assuming are dirt cheap when bought in bulk. They tend to be thicker but that is no measure of strength, they just decrease the sensation. This is no surprise in a cheaper brothel, but I was surprised how some educated freelancers I met in Berlin, would scrimp on something as important as condoms (while splurging on outfits and toys). If they seem dubious of the brand, I just explain "It's Japanese, like Honda and Acura. It's the best quality."
And consider carrying small packets of lube around. I found some single-use, paper-thin packets of Pjur, a high-quality German lube on Ebay for about $1 each, including shipping from Europe. Lack of lubrication is a common cause of condom failure, apparently. Not all girls need it, but most of the working girls I've been with lately apply it carefully to their yoni or on the condom. At least those girls understood the importance of that.
Another trick I've learned and this is going to be controversial is to drop a bit of lube in the end of the condom before you roll it on. Now, I didn't say lubricate the inside of the condom, or lubricate your cock. I said put a drop inside on the tip of the condom. Why? This reduces friction between the condom and the business end of your cock, which is where breakage takes place. It doesn't let the condom slide off, though, because its only lubricating the end of your cock, where the condom isn't tight against your skin in the first place or at least the condom should not be. Note that many condoms are actually a bit wider at the end for this reason not just to provide a reservoir for your jizz. Snug along the shaft, but some room at the tip. After all, this is the part of the condom that takes the brunt of the wear. This is what is banging up against her cervix (assuming it is within reach) This trick also renders a better sensation as it allows the condom to slide around the most sensitive part of your cock. That said, I'm sure many guys have had girls massage your cock with some lube, before putting on the condom on your still greasy member. That probably hasn't caused any slippage of the condom in your experience or has it?
Well, just my ideas of safe sex. Anybody have any sources for condom testing and quality of specific products, I would love to learn about them.
OlderMan4U
11-18-16, 03:03
Not that I am advocating barebacking, but has anyone ever been able to have an anal without condom?
That must really feel like heaven (to me at least). It is something I would love to experience.
Banana Boi
11-18-16, 05:55
Arrived back in Pattaya at midnight last night. Had a couple hours to kill before my friend got off work so decided to make a rare late night excursion to Soi 6. Below average amount of girls out. A few bars already had no girls outside. Imo talent wasn't great but I did see 3 new ok faces I would do in a pinch. The best was a new girl at Nightwish. I tried talking to her then was accosted by some girls I know there already. So much for going with the new girl. Conclusion still better going to Soi 6 around 6 pm rather than midnight.
Banana Boi
11-18-16, 14:11
Live update. Just walked beach road from central festival to Soi 13/1. Average amount of girls out. Talked to 3 that looked OK but not top looks as I prefer. 700,800, and 1000 were the quoted prices.
Banana Boi
11-18-16, 18:02
Live update. Popped by to check out Pheromone Club on Walking Street which opened last week. Located across from Marine Disco. I think FL already barfined a girl from here. https://www.facebook.com/PheromoneClubPattaya/.
Club already has more talent there than most of the clubs on Walking Street. Place was packed with guys and girls. Definitely worth checking out. Major issue. 200 baht for a lady drink. Thinking it's already better than Baccara and Sensations nearby may be a mistake. We'll see how long the guys will continue paying 200 baht per lady drink once the novelty wears off.
Hotman 666
11-18-16, 19:26
Live update. Just walked beach road from central festival to Soi 13/1. Average amount of girls out. Talked to 3 that looked OK but not top looks as I prefer. 700,800, and 1000 were the quoted prices.I have also noted that despite being fewer Farangs around the girls on the Coconut Bar seem to be quoting higher prices than they did during my last visit in June.
The Coconut Bar has been my favorite hunting ground for a playmate and 500 Baht has been the usual short time rate for many years now but with typical Thai logic "less customers so we increase price!
Please note there is NO NEED to pay these inflated prices on Beech Rd. There are still plenty of girls who will be happy to accept 500 Baht, it just means that we have to search a little bit harder.
Enjoy (I am.).
Hotman.
You were so right. It was a disaster. Totally a opposite personality, I can't stand that for an hour. Vice suggestions. I was looking not be alone. I was travelling alone which I really don't like. BTW it's not inexpensive at all. She was Very demanding buy this buy that.This has been predicted hundreds of times on this forum.
Mr Enternational
11-19-16, 04:01
This has been predicted hundreds of times on this forum.And that is no exaggeration. But mfs think they know better and must learn for themselves.
Day 10 – Wednesday.
After the disco pickup lady left, I did some stuff to kill time, then headed up to Soi 6. Not wanting to wanting by the girl who did me bare further down, I paid extra attention to the girls near the east entrance, and spied a hot spinner on the south side at Full Moon bar. Name was Deah (not spelling it how she did to me, but I forgot). She is one hottie and I have no idea how I missed her before. I do tend to put preference to the bars on the north side, but that I slowed down and took the time to look to my right. She is slender, with brownish hair down to her shoulders, a full A cup or maybe a small be cup, near flawless skin and if she was all made up rather than wearing the cheap bar outfit, would be a drool maker. She was pleasant, had passable English and laughed at my jokes. Upstairs, she gave me a passable shower then she joined me on the bed. For the downside, she was a bit mechanical. She started right into rubbing the Johnson and starting a BBBJ too soon. I was trying to enjoy her beauty, and while there was no overt rushing, the attitude just wasn't turning on the erection mechanisms. The condom goes on with me not much more than half erect and, even in me inside her, there just isn't enough stimulation to get me to full mast. It is a losing battle. I try, she tries, but it just isn't happening. I am really frustrated as this is one hot girl. I keep telling myself this, that I should be having no problems at all! Sigh. She feels bad, and she allows for us to just lie together and let me touch her, but she really isn't helping me by doing anything but stroking the Johnson with the condom still on. I take it off to regain some sensitivity, get back at little hardess and try with a new condom, but I am done. Over. Sigh.
She gives her regrets, but she is so pretty I can't blame her. This is a hot babe and I should really need is her to just lie there and let me stare at her and I should be hard as a brick. I told her I would see her again, after popping a V or see, and I just might do that. She works the early shift and leaves at 9 PM. We will see.
Went to WS after 9 PM. I actually staked out a position in I-Bar just as it was getting busy, but left after a while. I am a logical man, and sitting or standing around listening to ear splitting music that will cause tinnitus in the future of all those young ears around me, and drinking concoctions that are poisonous is just strange to me. But is reasoning this why I have to go to Thailand to get laid? Haha After I exit, the girl who likes to latch on to me appears. (Our history now goes back a year). Same pattern. She wants me, I ditch her, she gets mad and ignores me, then a bit later she tries to latch onto me again. And latch on to me she does. Sigh. She says she wants to go to my hotel. I say probably not, but she continues to hang on. She is indeed a cute girl with these big, puppy dog eyes makes her hard to say no to or be mean with, so I think what the heck, I can let her tag along if she wants. I go back to I-Bar, her hanging on tight, and we find a table, both get soft drinks, and just sit. I get up to leave and she quickly grabs hold of my hand and I go down to Red Car. Yikes, both of my recent pickups are there, so I leave. I really want to dump this girl, but I look at her and I get all soft inside and think that I could treat her like a GF, and I go to the ice cream place not far from there and we eat ice cream. I do contemplate taking her back, but I remember she insists on staying with you until you leave, and even if I took her back, did her and paid her, I still might have to hurt her yet again. So I look at her and just say that I can't take her back, and I give her some money. She almost looks like she will cry, but I think she says that I gave her a lot of money for only spending an hour with her, and she gives me a hug and leaves, expressing more happiness that I am kind to her the disappointment that I am being mean. I had probably bored her to death, but rather than her walk away with nothing, she stuck it out and got a payday without having to boom an old man for it. Now if come back next year, she may seek a repeat! But really, she seems to be a basically nice girl caught in a bad situation. Thousands, if not millions, are in similar situations and we can't help them all, but I hope she can find happiness.
So after she leaves, I consider going to Skyfall and BFing one the two cuties I met yesterday, but I instead go to Mandarin. Insider were a couple of hot girls. One, upon closer inspection, had some mild stretch marks. Another seemed perfect, #16 I think. She noticed I was looking at her, so she came over after her dance numbers were up. Her name was Pis. Very cute and she said she was 18 and had been there one month. Wow. English not so good, but a soft voice and she mentioned I could BF her. The BF was 1000 and she wanted 2000. Well, for a super pretty teen, not bad, and I said yes. She went back to change and came out in cute dress that showed a nice figure. Back at the hotel, however, found that I had lost my room key! Ugh. No idea where it was lost. I wear cargo shorts and it was in a small pocket with a Velcro seal, and the seal was broken. Great. They let me in, and since I bypassed the electrical system with a magnet, the room was still powered. The next day I inquired about a key and the charge was 800 baht. They actually had to replace the lock. My fault so I willingly paid. I had thus far not understood that you could leave your room key there at the desk when going out. Duh. Should have been doing that all along, and it is something I will now start doing. Those big magnetic keys are not comfortable to carry around.
She took her shower then I followed. She was waiting for me and we started off with some touching. Unlike with Deah earlier, this produced the proper erectile functionality. I was not expecting much skill in the BJ department, but oh my, she was slow and gentle and I was moaning. She kept it up for maybe 5 minutes and I was harder than a brick. She rolled over on her back and revealed two nice boobies. They were a large A, soft and a nice handful with nice nipples. Not firm, and they might be sagging in a few years, but now were nice. Skinny, flat and tight body. I probe her V and she took a while to get wet, but inside super tight. Then time for the blasted condom. Ugh. I used an Okamoto 0. 01 this time. It was tight and took some effort to get it on. It really didn't feel all that good. No no no. Another super cute girl, a teen at that, and I was still having problems. I switched to the Aoni's, but despite this young thing looking sweet, pretty and with a super tight vag, I could get to the edge of coming, but not over. I sweating from the effort. By this time I was losing the erection. I tried to salvage it by resting and just laying next to her rubbing myself on her and then trying a Trogan skin condom. Not really sure if it was better or worse, but I again nearly reached the point of no return, but exhaustion set in and I collapsed. Over and done. Why? I would labor so hard to get right to the edge, then collapse of exhaustion before getting there. Sigh.
I think back even 10 years ago when I was with someone for a week and we used condoms each time and I was able to come each time. Why not now?
After admitting defeat, she stands and is rubbing her pussy. I ask if she is ok, and says it hurts a little, but there is no blame on me, just acceptance. I say I am sorry and that she should have said something. I did notice towards the end she was drying out, and I did out some KY lotion which helped me almost reach that point of no return. And as I said, she is tight, and I did a lot of pounding. Poor girl. Nice girls like her I hate to see in the business, but at least with me she is safe and respected. Sigh. But no, no moral talk here. She is going to make a ton of money and help out her family. She leaves me in a state of disgrace. At her sweet age, this is probably the first time a guy has not been able to finish. She, like most, is curious about my problem. I mention if I were to go bareback it would be over in under a minute. So I drop the hint, but she makes no offer to actually do it. Good for her. I don't press the matter. She leaves. I am sooo frustrated. This is border line pathetic and you all have to be mocking me. I consider lying and telling how awesome the come was, but I won't lie.
I sleep terribly. Keep waking up for some reach, many times. Around 7 AM I notice that the AC is not running and that power is out. Is it due to my using a magnet to keep the power running? I still try to sleep but fail, then the power returns. How long was the power out? Is that why I couldn't sleep?
Anyway, summary for the day. This was a day of beauties. A Soi 6 honey for 300/1000 that I could not come with, and a Mandarin WS teenage sweetie, 1000/2000, who I also failed with. I would do either one again. Maybe I will. I think Thursday will be day 3 of no come, and based on tonight, I think should succeed tomorrow. Will I go back to Deah? Should I try Pis again? Thursday will also be my last day in Pattaya, so I hope to leave with a bang! Will I go for two girls, three or even four? My cash is holding out well, so that is not a problem.
Day 11 , Final – Thursday.
My last day to monger in Pattaya. On Friday, tomorrow, I will be heading by Bell Bus back to BKK, where I will take a taxi to my hotel near the Soi Cowboy district. I will spend two nights there, presumably visiting the two nearby night club areas, before heading back to BKK to meet up with my Thai GF late Sunday morning. I will then spend the remaining week and a half with her up until I return back to the USA. I will hopefully get out reports for both days regarding my first time to these two areas, and will post in the proper Bangkok forum. I am not expecting to accomplish much. I need to rest before I see her, even though she will probably remain a virgin and I will fail even oral with her. Sigh.
Anyway, started off heading to Soi 6 in the early afternoon. I decided to exchange some cash and went the exchange place at the entrance to Soi 6, as their rates are on par with the best, but when I reached into my pockets, the American money I brought was gone! Did I lose it somewhere or simply leave it back at the hotel? No one has touched me so I am sure it wasn't stolen, but bummer I have to go back the hotel. I did not find the money there, but whatever. (And, later the next day, digging deeper I found the missing money. Sheesh.).
Arriving back at Soi 6, I walked to the Full Moon bar and there was no Deah. But she obviously talked about me as the others girls there remembered me, probably due to her telling them I am the dude can't couldn't get it up hardly nor come. I was told she was running late and I could enjoy a different lady or come back. One girl was cute, but I said I would be back. I then took the back route down Soi 6/1 to ensure the girl who did me bare would not see me, then came out several cross streets (alleys?, whatever those short streets than connect the two streets) past her bar. I stopped after spotting a woman with a set of double the's and blondish hair smiling. She was attractive in a more mature way with nice legs, so I went over and said Hi. We went inside I found her to be more mature, and we actually engaged in some deep discussions that was pleasant, if not sad in her story of why she was here making money. She was not pushy at all which I liked. We talked for a quite a while before I sheepishly asked if she did the bar fine thing. Well, I knew that she did, duh, but we had been talking like friends and it was a little awkward to now be asking for sex, but we got past it obviously. BF was 350 but lady was 1000. Their upstairs bedrooms were really nice, especially the bathrooms. Rather than a tiny hole in the wall with rusting doors, these were tiled with a nice shower, modern toilet and long vanity. Very nice. She gave a nice shower.
I had brought along 4 or 5 different condoms, and I thought I would try some comparisons. I told Kung, her name, of my problem and that I wanted to try two different kinds. She was ok with it. When the action started, she was very slow and followed my guidance, and what followed was pretty much a GFE. Lots of kissing and touching to start off with. Her breasts were pumped up too much so they fake, but the appearance was nice. She allowed FIV and she was tight (she was a mommie but had delivered see-section). The scar was viable not overly distracting. Not a spinner, but she still had a good figure. To ensure I would not suffer the same problem with Deah about getting hard, I did take a V earlier, and the effects of that little pill were quite apparent. No BJ, but we were wrapped in each other's arms and the more natural thing was to plunge in. Well, dern condoms, can interrupt the mood and they did. I compared a. 02 with the Aoni, and there was a very slight edge to the thinner Aoni, but not really significant enough to spend more money on. I was not trying to come, but not trying not to come either. Things with both condoms seemed like could come if I really wanted to, but I figured I would wait to at least Deah, the super hot spinner. Kung was sad I couldn't come, and when I gave up she looked into my eyes for many minutes, just like a GF might. Yes, there was an attraction here, but one we both knew was to be over as soon as it began. If want a classy lady with a big set, go see Kung at the Red Spot bar.
After I left Kung I took the back way back up to see if Deah was in, and she was. We skipped the drinks and went right upstairs. She obviously remembered my problem, and she was far more friendly and accommodating this time. Nice shower then in bed, rather than rush right in, she took time for touching before starting in on another incredible BBBJ. She kept going for at least 10 mintues, alternating her style as yesterday, taking me in half way to teasing with her licking just the tips while rapidly stroking with her hands. Most dudes would be able to come this way, but not me. I wore her out I think as the finally asked for a cover. I put on a large size jap condom that I think was an 02. It was ok and I stuck with it. Deah is tight, but try as hard as I could to come, and several times getting right to the edge but then physically pooping out from the effort, I still could not come. She didn' t know what to think and said she was sorry. I tried to see if I could get her to volunteer to give me raw, but she said many men have this issue and ask her to go bare and always refuses. I just tell her good. I really don't think I would have done it. I have been beating myself up for already doing. Even having some phantom pains, but the only real thing (and this remains true several days later as I am preparing this for finally posting, is a slightly sore left nut due to all the physical trauma it has and will be put through!) Sigh. I think it has been 3 days since I last came. And how many beautiful girls have I failed with? I am pathetic. You guys are probably sick hearing about it. Heck, for now on for Pattaya, I don't think I will even mention it any more.
I left in disgrace and came back to eat at the Sizzler salad bar, then back to the hotel to write my report and probably take a nap. This is my last night in Pattaya, so I need to decide what to do. I might go back to Soi 6, but might first want to check out a BR FL girl.
Well, that evening I go back to Soi 6 and end up, I believe Toy Box. I see an exotic looking spinner (exotic even for Thai standards) and go for her. Maybe not my ideal, but she is interesting. Standard stuff so not too much to say.
After failing there, I head to WS. I actually stake out a table at I-Bar as the crowd is growing. I am getting more comfortable here, but still not quite ready for prime time. I leave and go to Red Car. I find two ladies close to each other. One is really pretty and I think out of my league at this relatively early hour. (But really, there are some cute girls with fat old dudes, so who knows?) The other looks more like a lady looking to get taken home. She has a nice body but just a cute face. I give some looks but get no vibes from her. The other classy lady however does throw out some vibes, so I go over to her. She is in a nice white dress with a really nice body and black hair down to her shoulders. I still suppose mid-30's. English is ok. I believe her name is Gest. I have trouble with it so she wrote it in ink on my hand, but it washed away in the following shower! I bought her drink and we danced a little, but I said I was tired (I was) and she wanted to come with me. We got on a motorbike for the ride to the hotel for 100 baht. I might keep doing this. It is faster than the baht bus, and a little more classy.
At the hotel she says she doesn't need a shower, but I take one. She is waiting for me and we start touching. She has an ok ok body for her age and for having a child. Not too bad at all actually, if just starting to show aging signs. We actually then give each other massages. When done, I rub her pussy and want to see how tight she is. I take a look down here and, what the heck, there are little while globules down there! Then she pushes me down to give me oral, then slams her pussy into my face for 69! Aghhhhh! Now what do I do? Well, if you have a pussy in your face, you lick, right? Be a man! Actually, she was otherwise very clean. No smell or taste whatsoever, even though the position I was in left me feeling claustrophobic. I survived and of course quickly went to gargle when she pulled away. She was wearing while, cotton grandmother panties, so maybe the white things were little cotton wads. I saw no signs these things were emanating from her inside her, so I am disinclined to think these were yeasty thingies. Don't want to think about it regardless. The fact she smelled and tasted clean bides against bad stuff going on. Had she stunk, I would have been out of there quick!
But the BJ was not great. For sex, we did the common positions. She wasn't the most encouraging and borderline starfish by this stage. I had to ask her to rub me a little to try to help get me over the edge. Used two condoms, even the last of my skins. I was drenched from exhaustion. Was on the edge several times. I need more exercise I guess. I take a shower and we go to bed. A while later, I had no idea when as I dropped off immediately to sleep, I hear up in frustration say she can't sleep and she is going to leave. Fine. I am half asleep now. We had never talked money and gave her 1000. She looks are me and I wonder if she is mad for me thinking she is a BG and offering money. Well, that was a dumb thought, wasn't it! She says 2. I grumble, but give it to her, which I should not have done. Then she asks for taxi money. Argh. I give her 200 more. I am thinking it is after 5 AM, but I then see the time and it isn't even 3 AM yet. She has stayed less than an hour after failed sex. I say I gave her more than she should be getting. She leaves.
But I understand her concern about sleeping. The room is not comfortable, and that may be why I am having trouble sleeping. The AC probably blows too much cool air but the air remains humid possibly due to a poor air return system. I later notice some paper is almost wet due to the humidity, even though the AC has been running for hours. Another girl who had stayed with me also wanted to leave early as she couldn't sleep either. Maybe this is the reason. Compared to the Dynasty, the bed is better, and the room is more cheery due to the while walls whereas the Dynasty has dark walls with terrible internal lighting, but I had not complaints about being unable to sleep. And, too, Dynasty now has the keys cards so you can't keep the power running when you go out. If I come back, I really should try a different hotel on a different street, though I like the Soi 13 area.
Summary. Four girls today. Three from Soi 6 and one a pickup from Red Car. My last attempts in Pattaya. No going out with a bang. I manage to get back to sleep, wake up early (can't sleep), pack up, go out for breakfast, wait for the Bell transfer van, and depart for BKK. For reference, the trip back to BKK this time is just a bit more than 90 minutes. My taxi ride down, though in some rain, was almost a full two hours.
Final thoughts. Pattaya is a wonderful place to monger. Girls for every taste and budget practically (well, for Thai girls at least). Heck of a long way for an American to come, but when you can literally walk down Soi 6 and have 6 girls for the price of one back home, and girls who will kiss and shower you, it is still a bargain. At the beginning I wondered if I would grow crazy after even a week here, but I didn't. I didn't really didn't do much more than write reports and do a little work from home, but I cannot say I was ever all that bored, nor was there a time I said I am really ready to leave here. But after doing 2 to 4 girls a day, just to be doing girls, might finally be getting a little old. And I know I am getting old to be doing this sort of thing still, and perhaps my inability to come in a condom, or even in a bare mouth, reflects that this needs to be one of my last visits. I hope I have one or even two more trips on me, but we will see. Hope you have enjoyed reading these reports and have learned something beyond the fact I am pathetic! Haha And sorry for the inevitable typos. Some are due to the site's editor that changes things, but most are my own. I hope you can figure it all out.
OlderMan4U
11-19-16, 21:37
Live update. Popped by to check out Pheromone Club on Walking Street which opened last week. Located across from Marine Disco. I think FL already barfined a girl from here. https://www.facebook.com/PheromoneClubPattaya/.
Club already has more talent there than most of the clubs on Walking Street. Place was packed with guys and girls. Definitely worth checking out. Major issue. 200 baht for a lady drink. Thinking it's already better than Baccara and Sensations nearby may be a mistake. We'll see how long the guys will continue paying 200 baht per lady drink once the novelty wears off.200 baht for lady drinks, not for me.
I do not think of myself as a cheap charlie, but every baht counts on a trip because I have saved a specific amount just for the trip. 200 baht quickly adds up.
Day 11 , Final Thursday.
Final thoughts. Pattaya is a wonderful place to monger. Girls for every taste and budget practically (well, for Thai girls at least). Heck of a long way for an American to come, but when you can literally walk down Soi 6 and have 6 girls for the price of one back home, and girls who will kiss and shower you, it is still a bargain. At the beginning I wondered if I would grow crazy after even a week here, but I didn't. I didn't really didn't do much more than write reports and do a little work from home, but I cannot say I was ever all that bored, nor was there a time I said I am really ready to leave here. But after doing 2 to 4 girls a day, just to be doing girls, might finally be getting a little old. And I know I am getting old to be doing this sort of thing still, and perhaps my inability to come in a condom, or even in a bare mouth, reflects that this needs to be one of my last visits. I hope I have one or even two more trips on me, but we will see. Hope you have enjoyed reading these reports and have learned something beyond the fact I am pathetic! Haha And sorry for the inevitable typos. Some are due to the site's editor that changes things, but most are my own. I hope you can figure it all out.I really enjoyed your reports. It takes a real man to share not only his conquests, but also his failures. Thanks for taking the time to publish your adventures.
If you hadn't mentioned your advancing age, I would have guessed you were a virile young man based on the sheer number of women that you were with. Unbelievable. You are the man 😎.
I'd love to know how old you are. How about letting us in on your secret age?
Thanks again for sharing.
Yours were great reports. A grateful nation honors you.
I, too, am of a certain age (73). I first visited Pattaya in 1984 and have since been back several times.
I am hoping to take a cruise in 2018 with an overnight port call that will enable me and my wife to overnight in Jomtien. Several reasons for this. Last time we stayed off Beach Road and whatever had attracted me to it before had grown old and stale. Also, I refuse to take all the noise that now blares around Pattaya. Been there, done that.
The plan is to stay at Rabbit Resort, which at least has a relatively decent beach with enough food vendors but not too many trinket peddlers. My wife is not up and about much these days so I will have freedom to roam. I want a smaller and quieter scene.
This may be my last visit. I know I cannot duplicate my first visit. I went to massage parlor in Bangkok and saw a stunner from Hat Yai, I believe. She gave me a blowjob and I came. Then in a burst of heroism that I have not been able to match since, I immediately got hard again and fucked her good until I came again.
Dream on. I know I will appreciate some Thai tenderness.
Hotman 666
11-20-16, 13:33
I am just reaching the end of an enjoyable couple of weeks in Thailand.
It seems to me that there are rather more girls sporting at least some hair down south than there were during my last visit around 5 months ago.
Then, and on all my previous visits, fully shaved or a small landing strip was the norm but now many of the girls I have had the pleasure of have had quite a growth!
Could it be anything to do with mourning the late King?
Hotman.
Christian G
11-20-16, 13:56
I am just reaching the end of an enjoyable couple of weeks in Thailand.
It seems to me that there are rather more girls sporting at least some hair down south than there were during my last visit around 5 months ago.
Then, and on all my previous visits, fully shaved or a small landing strip was the norm but now many of the girls I have had the pleasure of have had quite a growth!
Could it be anything to do with mourning the late King?
Hotman.All my girls are still fully shaved.... Fortunately.
Hi everyone,
I am coming back for 1 week arriving 25th Nov.
Please can you advise on the following. I heard in the news that since the king's death, we should all wear black. Is that true?
Christian G
11-20-16, 19:26
I heard in the news that since the king's death, we should all wear black. Is that true?No. Black short could be appreciated but not a must to do, especially for tourists.
Banana Boi
11-20-16, 20:37
All you need to wear is the black bow ribbon, even Thai people. Thai are to continue wearing black until Jan 1. Thai are not allowed to criticize tourists.
Mr Enternational
11-20-16, 20:42
All you need to wear is the black bow ribbon, even Thai people. Thai are to continue wearing black until Jan 1. Thai are not allowed to criticize tourists.You actually do not need to wear anything. Even most Thai people are not wearing black clothes nor a black ribbon.
You actually do not need to wear anything. Even most Thai people are not wearing black clothes nor a black ribbon.But be aware that it will be highly appreciated when you wear black. Specifically when you have a Thai office girl as a GF. So I placed my order already for next trip as I do not wear black that often. Just a matter of letting the GF feel comfortable. Behind closed curtains is a different world.
Then, and on all my previous visits, fully shaved or a small landing strip was the norm but now many of the girls I have had the pleasure of have had quite a growth!
Could it be anything to do with mourning the late King?
Hotman.Depends on what was written in the will.
Come on. Be serious!
Mr Enternational
11-21-16, 12:04
But be aware that it will be highly appreciated when you wear black. Specifically when you have a Thai office girl as a GF. So I placed my order already for next trip as I do not wear black that often. Just a matter of letting the GF feel comfortable. Behind closed curtains is a different world.Wrong again. Nobody is coming up to you patting you on the back if you have black on. Thais only expect you to respect their culture. They do not expect you to emulate it. Besides whenever a foreigner thinks he is doing something right, he is always doing something wrong. Giving the improper wai; wearing an even number of Buddha amulets when it is supposed to be an odd number. Keep it simple and leave their traditions to them in order to not make yourself look ridiculous. Nobody notices when you do nothing. Everybody notices when you are fucking up.
Banana Boi
11-21-16, 12:10
Visited the new gogo club Pheromones on Walking Street again last night. Place was packed with pretty good reason. The lineup is quite decent. Really bad part about this bar is the pure hustle for drinks. The girls must be told to drink their drinks faster than the speed of light. No other bar on Walking Street or LK Metro have girls who down their drinks like at this club. I think #84 was with me for less than 3 minutes after I bought her a drink. Didn't even say bye before she moved on to the next guy. At 200 baht per lady drink as well makes this club a total rip off imo. I will return but my return will be to just walk up to a girl, talk to her, and barfine her if I like her enough. No drinks. May do that with #28 this week.
OlderMan4U
11-21-16, 16:47
Regarding the wear of black clothing for tourists, here directly from the source:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/asia/thailand/articles/tourists-dont-have-to-wear-black-on-the-beach-thailand-is-open-for-tourism/
The TAT itself is saying that tourists do not have to wear black, but non flamboyant clothing. I'm not exactly sure what that means, but what tourists have always worn will be fine I'm sure (jeans, slacks, t-shirts, etc.).
But remember, this was a month ago.
Thai civil servants are to wear black for a year, while regular Thai's are to wear black for a month.
Again, this was a month ago, so even regular Thai's no longer have to wear black. So no need to wear black for any of us tourists at all, even as a 'noble' gesture since it wouldn't even apply to regular Thai's.
Wrong again. Nobody is coming up to you patting you on the back if you have black on. Thais only expect you to respect their culture. They do not expect you to emulate it. Besides whenever a foreigner thinks he is doing something right, he is always doing something wrong. Giving the improper wai; wearing an even number of Buddha amulets when it is supposed to be an odd number. Keep it simple and leave their traditions to them in order to not make yourself look ridiculous. Nobody notices when you do nothing. Everybody notices when you are fucking up.Oh man, I don't do wai's and do not wear amulets. Respect their culture, Yes! An how can you do any better than match up your dress with theirs? Or is it in your opinion well done to wear a bright yellow pants with light green polo when your GF wear black? If so, you have a different type of GF than I have. So it be, but do not say "wrong again".
Bdonkadonk
11-23-16, 08:37
I finally pick a girl at Horny Bar ...
... I bought her a drink and upstairs we soon went. Standard Soi 6 300/1000.Great reporting, I just read back 10 pages and saw all your reports. I just want to comment on this though. I have not been in a lot of the bars in Soi 6 but from the ones I have been I know that some charges 350 for the room and not 300, like Horny Bar that you are mentioning. I know that something like nine bars including Horny Bar are operated by the same owner and they all charge 350 for the room.
The ones I have been to which have the same owner are Night Wish, Sexy in the City, The Pussy Club and the one that you mention above, Horny Bar and it's the same price in all of them, 350. To barfine a girl before 9 PM is 1000 Baht and after 9 PM is 550 in these clubs. I have been to three other clubs in Soi 6 except these mentioned above and I believe I paid 300 in those clubs for the room.
Banana Boi
11-23-16, 09:05
I will be visiting a friend in Rayong soon. Are there any good bars down there? I'm hoping so since I really like the Rayong girls I have met. Rates cheaper than Pattaya?
My apologies since Rayong is not Pattaya but it's fairly close.
I will be visiting a friend in Rayong soon. Are there any good bars down there? I'm hoping so since I really like the Rayong girls I have met. Rates cheaper than Pattaya?
My apologies since Rayong is not Pattaya but it's fairly close.No.
Pattaya is the center of cheap nightlife. And as the offer is so huge and the market still works, prices are lowest. With exception of cheap Thai style fucks which last usually not more as 10 minutes somewhere in a hidden shack, prices are higher anywhere as in Pattaya.
I will be visiting a friend in Rayong soon. Are there any good bars down there? I'm hoping so since I really like the Rayong girls I have met. Rates cheaper than Pattaya?
My apologies since Rayong is not Pattaya but it's fairly close.Better stop half way at Ban Chang for a late afternoon delight. YMMV but most of the time it is strip with at least a few very doable Soi 6 style. Rayong is on the dead end like Chantaburi.
Dextro Sol
11-24-16, 09:57
Better stop half way at Ban Chang for a late afternoon delight. YMMV but most of the time it is strip with at least a few very doable Soi 6 style. Rayong is on the dead end like Chantaburi.Please tell us more about the scene in Ban Chang!! I guess we are many who wants to know.
Banana Boi
11-24-16, 10:10
I google'd Ban Chang. Many sites discuss the bars there. Here is a pdf file. Any insights on pricing would be great Titanio.
Considering a late afternoon/night trip.
I'm back in Pattaya for my 2nd stint this month. The 1st one was at the beginning of this month (4 nights) and now tomorrow my 2nd stay here for 3 nights is over too. Now it has been cloudy and rainy for a couple of days with thunderstorms so it has ruined my plan of sun bathing. Thus I had to concentrate on drinking beer and Sang Som. My hotel is close to Soi 6 so there I have been hanging out most of the time.
Yesterday I took my laundry to soi 6 and had there and american breakfast at 1.30 pm while waiting for the rain to stop as it was really pouring down heavily. After drinking coffee I switched to beer in a few soi 6 bars. Horny bar is the only name I remember but also visited others. I think Horny bar was the only one where I really fucked someone. 19 yo girl with decent sized breasts and a nice body for me (I don't like the slimmest girls). She said she has one kid 5-years old and that she had while she was 14 (OMG). So upstairs we went for the shower. No BJ as I don't need it so just straight to fucking. Was nice as I was starting to feel horny. Quite good pussy 8/10 so no problems finishing into the condom. Said she had been there for about a month (don't they all) but who knows, might be true also as I had never seen her before.
Later at night I went to WS to my favorite a gogo on soi diamond. Bought several drinks to 2-3 girls but was not really feeling horny. But after a beer and a couple of sang som cokes later the blonded 19 yo girl agreed to go short time with me (2k) so I paid the BF and 300 for the room upstairs at the short time hotel. She also said she had been there about a month and this one I could trust more as later I found out that she really seemed non pro. Like was too shy to shower together etc. After our showers we went to the bed after dimming the lights a little. She started kissing and I kissed her and she also used her tongue in kissing. I was really waking up so I went top of her. I was about to ask about condoms but wanted to feel her pussy a little bit and just entered her and good it really felt. Maybe she really was too a new girl to ask for a condom I don't know. She said everything in her is small (tits, ass, pussy) and so it was because she was a slim girl (it this case it didn't matter). I asked in thai if she was hurt as I saw her facial expressions and she said a little bit. I tried to be gentle on her. Still her face didn't look at all she was at all enjoying it. I asked her to turn and decided to finish quickly in doggy style. Didn't take long and I was gentle and held her ass near me so I just had to finish inside her. Maybe not the wisest thing to do but that happened and then I fell to the bed very exhausted and happy feeling. The relaxed feeling was in my legs too so I had to rest and finish my drink at the gogo bar downstairs.
So two 19 yo s is a big contrast to the last time this month when I mostly had older girls. One that came to me was from mobile dating app and the other was from a beer bar at 4am. Ages were 41 and 42 respectively. With both I had long discussions and they said they were clean and they are also scared of HIV. The 42 yo said that she had only gone with farang 5-6 times and always with condom. Could be true as Pattaya seems quiet now so all the girls (especially older ones) might not have action all the time. The one from Badoo said she just does this "sometimes". I tried condom with her but not easy to finish so did a quick BB CIP. She said "you can use condom if you are scared". With the 42 yo later that night did BB COB and then later in the morning with hangover I did a standing doggy and finished inside her. So bareback sex is easy to find in Pattaya that is my previous experience too. I don't know if this is good or not. The risks are still out there. On the other hand in the last 3 years I have had BB sex with 10-15 girls in Pattaya and didn't catch any STD. The one chlamydia I picked up was in Nana in Bkk when my condom broke inside her because of her dry pussy. So the only STD came while using a condom. Nothing while bare. Of course this does not guarantee anything but I just don't get the feeling with condoms especially when drunk. Sex with condom is sometimes not better than no sex at all. You can't see HIV from the face but by getting to know her a bit (background) and by talking to her makes it possible to make a educated guess about the probability of diseases. In a rare case when you are wrong and she is a good lier the risk of HIV is still low in 1-2 BB sex sessions. By multiplying all these probabilites the overall probability will be very low. And there is risk in everything, crossing a street in Pattaya is sometimes scary too.
It's fun to be a Finn. . .
Christian G
11-24-16, 14:32
I I think Horny bar was the only one where I really fucked someone. 19 yo girl with decent sized breasts and a nice body for me (I don't like the slimmest girls)..Rose? I also fucked a girl in Horny bar last week, 19 yo called Rose.
Great reporting, I just read back 10 pages and saw all your reports. I just want to comment on this though. I have not been in a lot of the bars in Soi 6 but from the ones I have been I know that some charges 350 for the room and not 300, like Horny Bar that you are mentioning. I know that something like nine bars including Horny Bar are operated by the same owner and they all charge 350 for the room.
The ones I have been to which have the same owner are Night Wish, Sexy in the City, The Pussy Club and the one that you mention above, Horny Bar and it's the same price in all of them, 350. To barfine a girl before 9 PM is 1000 Baht and after 9 PM is 550 in these clubs. I have been to three other clubs in Soi 6 except these mentioned above and I believe I paid 300 in those clubs for the room.I had the same experience twice at Horny Bar last week. They charged 350 and if I remember correctly the Pussy Bar charged the same. I initially thought all the bar fines went up too, but after hitting a couple of others, I realized it was just that place and like you said, their affiliates.
Mr Enternational
11-24-16, 18:40
I will be visiting a friend in Rayong soon. Are there any good bars down there? I'm hoping so since I really like the Rayong girls I have met. Rates cheaper than Pattaya?Common mistake in mongering. Meet so many girls from Town X in Town Y so you figure there must be a lot of girls like this in Town X. You finally go to Town X and realize that all the good girls from there go to Town Y because there isn't shit going on in Town X. If there was shit going on in Town X they would have just stayed there instead of going through all the trouble to go to Town Y. So if you want good girls from Town X, it is best to stay in Town Y to continue to meet them. All that is left in Town X is the garbage.
Bdonkadonk
11-24-16, 22:28
I had the same experience twice at Horny Bar last week. They charged 350 and if I remember correctly the Pussy Bar charged the same. I initially thought all the bar fines went up too, but after hitting a couple of others, I realized it was just that place and like you said, their affiliates.Yes, it seems like it is those bars with the same owner that charges 350 for the room and maybe all the other bars charges 300.
However, today I was in the agogo bar directly opposite The Pussy Club, which is called Working Girl. They had about 18 girls doing the strip / dance rotation but they didn't take any clothes off, they just danced to show themselves off.
I asked of the prices and found out that they are charging 500 for the room and most of the girls will do ST for 1500 and a few of them will ask for 2000. Bar fine for taking a girl LT is 1300 up until midnight and drops to 800 after that. The club closes at 2 AM. I bought a LD for a 32 yo girl named Pu and I am thinking of coming back to take her for a ST session there. She looked good and had a nice and curvy body. I couldn't do her today as I just before was with another girl in the Horny Club which is just opposite Working Girl.
I haven't paid so much attention to know if agogo Working Girl is the only agogo in Soi 6 but at least I guess that there aren't so many agogo's in Soi 6. From what I remember of prices in general, Working Girl sticks out with the high room rate of 500 Baht in Soi 6. And of the prices that I have been quoted I think that 350 Baht has been the highest until I found out today that agogo Working Girl is charging 500 for their rooms.
Common mistake in mongering. Meet so many girls from Town X in Town Y so you figure there must be a lot of girls like this in Town X. You finally go to Town X and realize that all the good girls from there go to Town Y because there isn't shit going on in Town X. If there was shit going on in Town X they would have just stayed there instead of going through all the trouble to go to Town Y. So if you want good girls from Town X, it is best to stay in Town Y to continue to meet them. All that is left in Town X is the garbage.Hello Spock Jr! : " you are 2 logical for some humans! It must be interesting to be a human. " 🖖🖖🖖
Except for the very few quality girls who are just days from leaving ( too young, shy, scared etc) , or have some family issue that is keeping them from leaving currently....
OlderMan4U
11-25-16, 01:28
A gogo on Soi 6 that charges inflated prices all around?
Whose brilliant idea was this?
Some girls are asking for 2000ST?
GTFO of here! If I wanted overpriced girls with attitudes in an overpriced venue, I'd go to Walking Street or Soi LK Metro, not Soi 6!
Banana Boi
11-25-16, 01:43
I haven't paid so much attention to know if agogo Working Girl is the only agogo in Soi 6 but at least I guess that there aren't so many agogo's in Soi 6. From what I remember of prices in general, Working Girl sticks out with the high room rate of 500 Baht in Soi 6. And of the prices that I have been quoted I think that 350 Baht has been the highest until I found out today that agogo Working Girl is charging 500 for their rooms.Down near Beach Road on Soi 6 the is a gogo bar named Dolls. It even puts Walking Street gogo bars to shame on their rates. If I recall, the rate for 1 HOUR was 1500 to use their room upstairs or BF + 2500 to the girl. That's 4 k for 1 HOUR! Really too bad because there is one hot girl who is still there. Hopefully someone can correct me on my rates.
Rose? I also fucked a girl in Horny bar last week, 19 yo called Rose.Yes it was Rose. Good fuck. Not many 19 year olds in soi6. But like almost all the othes she has a baby to send money to. Still she told that many farang say they want her as their GF. Maybe this is how it goes. The best ones even in soi6 get picked by farangs and of course it is far better for them to leave than stay there being fucked by many every day. Girls come and go. New busloads of girls will fill the gaps. I have also seen some little less beautiful girls disappear abroad.
Christian G
11-25-16, 10:41
Horny bar is the only name I remember but also visited others. I think Horny bar was the only one where I really fucked someone. 19 yo girl with decent sized breasts and a nice body for me (I don't like the slimmest girls). She said she has one kid 5-years old and that she had while she was 14 (OMG). So upstairs we went for the shower. No BJ as I don't need it so just straight to fucking.
Yes it was Rose. Good fuck. Not many 19 year olds in soi6. Pity you don't got a BJ, she suck pretty well and seem to like it. She is a 3 holers as well.
Christian G
11-25-16, 12:18
Live update. Just walked beach road from central festival to Soi 13/1. Average amount of girls out. Talked to 3 that looked OK but not top looks as I prefer. 700,800, and 1000 were the quoted prices.Same experience, I had couple of walk up and down beach road last week. Many girls ask for 1000ST, few 8/700. I not tried to negotiate the price down, but interview them for the service, many of them were no friendly at all, almost all said NO for anal, and few said yes but ask for crazy price like 3000 baht. It is clear that they did not want.
At the end I pick up Deung very little tiny girl with a great ass, she stay in front of soi11, agree on 1000 baht with anal and CIM. Performance was ok, but she have very silly and childish behavior.
This holiday I had very good time on soi6, so not more pick up on beach road for me.
Christian G
11-25-16, 13:34
Another afternoon club open yesterday in soi Full Love Inn next to Club4, 007, Carre Blanc and Pirates.
5 clubs in a row, like a mini soi6.
Bdonkadonk
11-25-16, 17:17
A gogo on Soi 6 that charges inflated prices all around?
Whose brilliant idea was this?
Some girls are asking for 2000ST?
GTFO of here! If I wanted overpriced girls with attitudes in an overpriced venue, I'd go to Walking Street or Soi LK Metro, not Soi 6!Yes, 2000 is much for ST in Soi 6. But according to Banana Boi the gogo bar Dolls near Beach Road goes even higher with 2500 for the girls to do ST plus 1500 for the room.
2000 - 4000 for one hour seems steep for Soi 6 so let's hope that Dolls and Working Girl are the only exceptions to these prices and it stays like that, and that it's not spreading to more clubs in Soi 6. The idea of 1000 + 300/350 for ST in Soi 6 is great and should stay just like that!
Banana Boi
11-25-16, 19:32
Sensations was the best I have seen it tonight. So many pretty faces now and the bodies are always good there. Noticed many new cute girls in some of the outdoor bars on Walking Street. Girls everywhere now. Went with a nice one on Soi Honey this afternoon. Amazing chemistry and service. Sorry forgot the name of the place but it's near Bay Breeze hotel.
Anyone know the pricing of some of the non gogo bar areas in Walking Street.
(1) the complex just outside Walking Street on the Beach side that we have all passed a thousand times.
(2) the long row of bars across from G Spot gogo on the Beach side near the entrance of Walking Street and Lobster Pot. I think it's Frog bar as the first bar.
(3) the short strip of bars leading from Walking Street to Happy a go go.
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