Pattaya Reports

[Crazy4Thai]

I just finished 3 nights in Pattaya. The generalities that are made on this board, IMO, are just that. My experience on Soi 6 is that yes it is one of the busiest places in all of Pattaya. Also I was surprised at the selection of truly hot young providers. Good service or not is another matter. You never know what you will find in an unlikely venue. As one example, I stopped into The Nelson Hotel on the LH side as you walk down the soi from 2nd Road. I went in to grab a beer and shoot some pool. One of the girls out front was awfully close to stunning. Tall, curvy and very pretty. Nothing about her suggested ladyboy but as I write this maybe I was fooled, she looked that good. This is one small example. Sure there are worn out dragons in abundance, but also more young hot gals than I'm used to seeing and I'm no stranger to Soi 6. I did partake at The Red Point Bar. She came after me in the street and I liked her look. 24 yo professional bar girl with absolutely no mistaking her for the girl next door. I checked to see what she would do, including rimming and away we went. We started with a drink and then to be sure we are on the same page I pulled out my phone with the little video clip of the guy getting rimmed while she strokes him. She said "cannot". When I said "check-bin" she knew she would have to go back outside with nothing and face her "sisters". She again reversed and up we went. She was outstanding. As a side note the rooms are remarkably nice there. So, as for generalities, sure there can be some truth in them but in my long years here you never know what you will find if you go looking for it. And as an older punter I DO have to go looking for it. When the young studs are meandering down the soi in front of me the hotties flock to them in what appears to be genuine excitement to be pounded by a young guy. I rarely get even an invitation. I have to go get what I want and be prepared to be persistent. There are SO many opportunities in Pattaya.

C4 T.

[Syzygies]

Joking aside, it can be awkward to barfine a co-worker of your previous girl. Sometimes these girls fabricate stories about their "catch" (perhaps to impress their co-workers) and then you spoil it all by barfining someone else.

I avoid the girls thinking they can catch me by telling them truthfully I have a Thai girlfriend. Not awkward for me, unless I have somehow become more than just a customer.

It's a good idea to say you have a GF even if you don't, or otherwise to say you are a big butterfly ("Jao Choo" so that girls do not expect you will stick with one girl.

I also call girls over for a drink sometimes, even if intending to BF someone else, to make the first girl understand that she is still favored and maybe chosen on another day.

It is well understood by bargirls that many guys will change girls, no matter how good the first girl was.

If I find a super girl, I will always give her first priority. I can't afford for her to ever think she is not my first choice, as she may pick up some other guy making her first priority. I don't want to drop down her pecking order.

A venue only becomes a viable favorite venue if you have several favorite girls at that venue, since can't rely on any one girl to always be there, and always be available. I took plenty of different girls from my favorite bars.

One bargirl Jane, I have known a little for a long time, but only BFed twice. She still knows I like her, even if mostly she has never been available (having other regular customers). I am a good backup customer for her, when she happens to be still available (quite rare). LOL No need for any jealousies, or noses out of joint.

[Banana Boi]

6 bars on Soi Full Love Inn now. Becoming the new Soi 6. CB, Club 007, Pirates, Club 4, J club, and Club Sin. Club Sin is my favorite. The owner is hot but married to someone well know in Pattaya-land. Don't forget Soi FLI if you have extra time. 40 baht motorbike ride from Central or Walking Street.

Not many girls in each bar but all girls friendly.

[Banana Boi]

I had heard about this before I came to Thailand the first trip. Imo it doesn't exist. It exists if you allow it to exist or are not an experienced clubber, allowing girls to play games with your mind. I have taken multiple girls from the same establishments, only to have the one I didn't take the last time come back for more. Losing money should be the better terminology.

My girls get more upset as other girls on the streets or in the mall are staring me down checking me out. I'm not even looking at the other girl and still get in trouble! 555

[Reiner Otto]

(like the 1.5k for overnight LT which I think is generally accepted by girls)? Any advice and experience appreciated.Did that a few times, during previous years. Daily rate between 1500+300 (for a high class bar girl) and 1000 for a good freelancer from red Car.

As this was always for about 2 weeks, longer duration might give you some more discount.

I suggest, lower the daily rate, but some small presents from time to time in case of good service.

[Member #4591]

Just a couple of responses to my responses.

First, I'd like to say: do whatever makes you happy, as long as it doesn't impede on someone else's happiness, right? If the girl doesn't want to lose face, and you want to respect that, then go ahead, nothing wrong with that, and don't give a shit what others think. If you think it's crazy that a girl asks for anything like that, then go back the next day and barfine the other girl and don't care what she wants. Personally, This girl was wild and crazy. Originally I was going to just agree to what she asked until after she left, and then just show up the next day regardless of what she wanted. But I chose to respect her wishes because: 1. I think she might have stabbed me for it 2. I think it might have created conflict if I did barfine the other girl, and the girl wouldn't have given me good or the best service because of it 3. I didn't really want to go back to the same place two nights in a row, I ended up with something better and cheaper the next night anyways.

Just relax everyone, and be happy. Live and let live. This is a forum to share information and ideas, not a judgement zone.

Anyways, I also disagree about not letting Mimi read my ISG post about her. To be honest, I want ALL working girls to know about ISG and other mongering websites. That way, they know they should provide better service, which in turn gets more and better clients because of the good reviews. After Mimi read my post, she spent the rest of the night trying to snuggle me and hold my hand because she wanted to provide better GFE service so I would write a good report about her! Haha I thought it was cute. I've had many of you guys flood my inbox for referrals, and those women are super grateful for them that they give me better service and discounts when I see them again.Are you completely off your rocker mate? You are one of those guys that will fall in love with a bar girl and she will then take you for everything you've got, 100%. Give your freakin head a shake! What if the girl in question sees a photo that was taken of her on here? She will never agree to another photo again. What if she reads a detailed encounter from one of her customers and then refuses to see said customer again, even charges him with the defamation crime in Thailand. Do you know that is a serious crime here? How could one monger be so ignorant is beyond me!

[Knobrm]

Thanks for your responses.

Seems there is broader spectrum for this kind of arrangement than usual LT. I will probe the topic with my provider and share later what the end result was.


Did that a few times, during previous years. Daily rate between 1500+300 (for a high class bar girl) and 1000 for a good freelancer from red Car.

As this was always for about 2 weeks, longer duration might give you some more discount.

I suggest, lower the daily rate, but some small presents from time to time in case of good service.


The Mia noi, or minor wife arrangement is fairly common in Thailand. I've had girls ask for between 30 and 50 k a month, but it was never clear how often we would meet or whether they also expected regular shopping trips, gifts, etc so I haven't gone for it. This was with girls met on social media platforms not bars. I'm sire a bargirl would happily take 10 k and when you are not looking, still take a few other clients on board to supplement her income.

[Mr Enternational]

Everybody, calm your tits. Seriously, some of you fuckers need to go get laid. Don't make demands, and definitely don't try to threaten me, god damned internet tough guys. With all of that said, I'm going to do whatever the fuck I please. I love ISG, but sometimes fucking hate it at the same time.LOL. Whatever you do won't stop her from hoarin. She has to get paid. Sure she might not want to take pictures, but she will still be fucking for money. People do act like this website is top secret and not accessible by anyone who has the internet.

[Opebo]

Always a pleasure to see a new post from Opebo, his reports are always packed with useful information (often not known or posted by others).

When you mention "big tips" on Soi 6, how big were they and what's your approach to giving them? I generally simply agree on a price beforehand and pay when the deed is done (perhaps tipping then if service as good). With my approach, I don't see how paying over the going rate makes any difference. Do you tell them they'll earn more beforehand if certain conditions are met?

Thanks very much for the kind words. I don't report much nowadays as I rarely if ever venture anywhere new. Since the USA stopped allowing new pages to be added to passports I figured I'd better stay put.

Regarding tipping, I wait until after the preliminaries and 'foreplay' and offer the tip just before intercourse. A substantial tip for an essential service, one which used to be de rigueur in Thailand but which alas is now rare, only to be found gratis or 'included' among the older ladies. Nowadays due to better funding (and dwindling libido) I usually partake of the 20-25 types, so tipping is the only way to get anywhere.

[OlderMan4U]

Did that a few times, during previous years. Daily rate between 1500+300 (for a high class bar girl) and 1000 for a good freelancer from red Car.

As this was always for about 2 weeks, longer duration might give you some more discount.

I suggest, lower the daily rate, but some small presents from time to time in case of good service.Not bar girls from the really expensive gogo's right? I suppose there are some that would go for 1.5 K LT these days, but not from the high roller ones that can command any price they want.

[Banana Boi]

Since the USA stopped allowing new pages to be added to passports I figured I'd better stay put.Can't you just say you lost your passport and get a new passport?

Why does America have this rule? What if you do business internationally and fly back and forth monthly?

[David 2]

Can't you just say you lost your passport and get a new passport?

Why does America have this rule? What if you do business internationally and fly back and forth monthly?You can apply for a new passport at any time, and you can get a passport with either 28 pages or 52 pages. I quote here from the official state department website under FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions).

https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports/FAQs.html

Can I get extra visa pages for my passport?

No, you cannot. Applicants who need additional pages in their valid passports must obtain a new passport by mail. Applicants within the United States may choose a 28-page or 52-page book.

I hope this helps.

[Smoothy]

Can I get extra visa pages for my passport?

No, you cannot. Applicants who need additional pages in their valid passports must obtain a new passport by mail. Applicants within the United States may choose a 28-page or 52-page book.Is that new? I got extra pages added to my US passport 2 different times at the US embassy in Bangkok. The most recent time, I got a new passport at that same embassy in Bangkok. I do not live in Bangkok. On each occasion, I was just there on a tourist visa. I did that because it was much quicker than getting it done in the US. I got new pages added same day, and I think the new passport was only 3 days or maybe a week. I'd have waited a helluva lot longer than that in the US.

[David 2]

Is that new? I got extra pages added to my US passport 2 different times at the US embassy in Bangkok. The most recent time, I got a new passport at that same embassy in Bangkok. I do not live in Bangkok. On each occasion, I was just there on a tourist visa. I did that because it was much quicker than getting it done in the US. I got new pages added same day, and I think the new passport was only 3 days or maybe a week. I'd have waited a helluva lot longer than that in the US.Yes. It started January 1, 2016. State Department says that it makes the passports more secure.

https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/news/visa-pages-no-longer-issued.html

[DuckMan2]

Walking street was insane last night. Hit 3 go go.

1 went to Baccara. Nice talent but had my mind on # 55 but she was no there. 2 went to Beach club. Nothing to my liking. Ended up at happy. Found nice 23 year old nice natural tits. $1600 baht bar fine WTF. She wanted 5000 LT. I got her 4000 (Let the ass chewing begin). She had a tight body no kids that I could tell. Coved blow job and tight as hell. Was a good time it but would not repeat Happy New Years.

[BionicMan]

Can't you just say you lost your passport and get a new passport?

Why does America have this rule? What if you do business internationally and fly back and forth monthly?It is not a good practice to lie on the reasons why you need a new book.

Everything is recorded and go back margine if you really loose your passport. It will be the second one, not something any authority will like.

Lost or stolen passports are entered in database that other immigration agencies might access and your name will be matched to it.

An immigration agent, not in my country, knew I had lost once also my national ID card.

[OlderMan4U]

Hey guys,

Wondering if you have ever decided to barfine a girl that never raised the issue, and how that went.

There is this one bar that I go to a lot on my trips, and have been going for a few years. I enjoy the ambiance there and sit for hours just relaxing and buying drinks for my lady companion. The thing is, I have never barfined any girl from this bar, so perhaps I have a reputation as someone that doesn't like to barfine.

But on a recent trip, a girl I have known working there for as long as I started going there, suddenly decides she wants to drink with me for some reason (after some flirty smiling between us). So I sat with her for hours just enjoying the company.

Usually, girls I am with eventually approach the barfine subject, but she never did. I do think she is attractive and would love to have a go at her. The fact that she never did would seem to me she's just not interested in going out with me. But at the same time, maybe I could ask her if she wants to? Worst she could say is no right?

[Lefeu]

Hey guys,

Wondering if you have ever decided to barfine a girl that never raised the issue, and how that went.

Usually, girls I am with eventually approach the barfine subject, but she never did. I do think she is attractive and would love to have a go at her. The fact that she never did would seem to me she's just not interested in going out with me. But at the same time, maybe I could ask her if she wants to? Worst she could say is no right?When I read your report, I could not help but wonder what is wrong with this picture. I, and I am sure many other mongers, have taken girls to my hotel room without ever discussing their rate. In the morning, I handed them what I thought was a reasonable donation and they were generally happy (I tend to be generous anyhow).

I am surprised you did not ask her, if you found her attractive, unless you were not planning to take a girl that night. I did that in my last trip to Pattaya. I was in a gogo bar and I liked one of the dancers. After inviting her for a drink, she quoted me a rather high number for ST. After seeing my reaction, she quickly changed it to LT. I still decided not to take her, as I had done a session earlier that day and the mood was gone after hearing her offer. Nevertheless, I liked her enough to go back the next day and her LT offer was still the same. I took her on and had a great time with her.

[Member #4591]

Everybody, calm your tits.

Seriously, some of you fuckers need to go get laid.

Don't make demands, and definitely don't try to threaten me, god damned internet tough guys.

With all of that said, I'm going to do whatever the fuck I please.

I love ISG, but sometimes fucking hate it at the same time.Could you please quote where you were threatened? Because if that was the case, the post would have been deleted already by admin. All I'm saying is think about the consequences of your actions. As for your comment on Internet tough guys, think about that comment because you are acting the same by making it.

[Banana Boi]

girls I am with eventually approach the barfine subject, but she never did. I do think she is attractive and would love to have a go at her. The fact that she never did would seem to me she's just not interested in going out with me. This is incorrect. Just ask the girl. I make the assumption EVERY girl in any bar can be BF. I know one ISG member who got shot down by a coyote. It took me 2 months to get my gogo waitress I wanted but I managed to do so. Felt good too since I truly knew she does not BF much, if at all (she told me I was the first ever).

Lefeu, I believe he is discussing a girl not wanting him because she doesn't ask to be BF rather than the girl's price.

[Member #4591]

LOL. Whatever you do won't stop her from hoarin. She has to get paid. Sure she might not want to take pictures, but she will still be fucking for money. People do act like this website is top secret and not accessible by anyone who has the internet.I firmly believe you just like to take the opposite view of me every time LOL. Anyways, Mr. Enternational, you are very famous on the China threads as I can remember so you should understand that the providers in China all read the site, there is even a dedicated thread for them to advertise for free. Have you ever noticed the difference in the posts in that thread compared to the Thailand thread. Very few photos! I think we all know people can find this site, but why we need to help them is beyond me.

[Member #4591]

Hey guys,

Wondering if you have ever decided to barfine a girl that never raised the issue, and how that went.

There is this one bar that I go to a lot on my trips, and have been going for a few years. I enjoy the ambiance there and sit for hours just relaxing and buying drinks for my lady companion. The thing is, I have never barfined any girl from this bar, so perhaps I have a reputation as someone that doesn't like to barfine.

But on a recent trip, a girl I have known working there for as long as I started going there, suddenly decides she wants to drink with me for some reason (after some flirty smiling between us). So I sat with her for hours just enjoying the company.

Usually, girls I am with eventually approach the barfine subject, but she never did. I do think she is attractive and would love to have a go at her. The fact that she never did would seem to me she's just not interested in going out with me. But at the same time, maybe I could ask her if she wants to? Worst she could say is no right?You seem like a generous guy so that is probably why she wanted to drink with you. The ladies all talk about the good customers. Secondly, I often bar fine ladies who never bring up the subject. Only 50% of the time the rate is discussed. I think Syggs can attest to that since I know this is his experience more often than not. If the ladies are worried you are stingy, that's when prices are discussed.

[OlderMan4U]

When I read your report, I could not help but wonder what is wrong with this picture. I, and I am sure many other mongers, have taken girls to my hotel room without ever discussing their rate. In the morning, I handed them what I thought was a reasonable donation and they were generally happy (I tend to be generous anyhow).

I am surprised you did not ask her, if you found her attractive, unless you were not planning to take a girl that night. I did that in my last trip to Pattaya. I was in a gogo bar and I liked one of the dancers. After inviting her for a drink, she quoted me a rather high number for ST. After seeing my reaction, she quickly changed it to LT. I still decided not to take her, as I had done a session earlier that day and the mood was gone after hearing her offer. Nevertheless, I liked her enough to go back the next day and her LT offer was still the same. I took her on and had a great time with her.I have seen her in the bar for several years, but she never approached me before. For some reason this time when our eyes met she kept smiling and then asked for a drink, and I was surprised since I never interacted with her before.

I did eventually feel like barfining her, but chickened out asking her. I don't know why. I have seen her go with other customers in previous visits, so I know she does barfine. I guess I am a bit of a chicken if she says no, I'll feel a little embarrassed and disappointed. I was thinking if she wanted to go with me, she would have raised the issue herself.

[OlderMan4U]

This is incorrect. Just ask the girl. I make the assumption EVERY girl in any bar can be BF. I know one ISG member who got shot down by a coyote. It took me 2 months to get my gogo waitress I wanted but I managed to do so. Felt good too since I truly knew she does not BF much, if at all (she told me I was the first ever).

Lefeu, I believe he is discussing a girl not wanting him because she doesn't ask to be BF rather than the girl's price.Yes, you are correct Banana Boi.

Maybe I am thinking too much, but I kept thinking if she wanted to go with me, she would have mentioned it but she never did and I eventually left the bar when I got too tired and sleepy.

I know for a fact she does go with customers as I seen her in previous visits go with guys.

[OlderMan4U]

You seem like a generous guy so that is probably why she wanted to drink with you. The ladies all talk about the good customers. Secondly, I often bar fine ladies who never bring up the subject. Only 50% of the time the rate is discussed. I think Syggs can attest to that since I know this is his experience more often than not. If the ladies are worried you are stingy, that's when prices are discussed.That is probably true.

I just found it interesting that after all these years, she'd want to drink with me after not approaching me before.

I may have to go out on a limb and just go for it. The worst is she says no, but it feels so awkward as I had that happen before in a gogo.

[Crazy4Thai]

I'm referring to PMs, Natty Bumpo, yourself, and others making demands and threatening to get my account suspended. And yes, all internet tough guys, because none of you would say this in person to me. I'm not an internet tough guy, don't have to be.

I've thought about the consequences of my actions, and I see no problems with it. It's an open and free website, not nuclear launch codes mates. Nuff said.I have stayed out of this so far. I do not have the same issues with sharing the info that some members do. I do have my conclusions about Thai culture and no way do I think the service will improve when they understand the rewards after having read our posts. They are who they are and efforts to change them are not likely to succeed whether it is P4 P or any other venue.

[Mr Enternational]

I firmly believe you just like to take the opposite view of me every time LOL. Anyways, Mr. Enternational, you are very famous on the China threads as I can remember so you should understand that the providers in China all read the site,Wrong person. I don't know a gd thing about China. I have been to Hong Kong once and mongered on Temple Street and hit the 141 I think it was. That is the extent of my China experience.

To me ISG is like Yelp. Who the heck cares if the restaurant owners are reading the reviews? You should hope they read it so they can get their shit together or keep up the good work if that is what people are saying about them.

The girls know they are hookers. They go work in bars and gogos and stand on the sidewalk soliciting customers where all the public can see. I assume that the China providers have no problem with ISG seeing as you say they even have their own thread.

Don't shoot TK. Petition Jackson to make a super secret passcode and to make everyone who signs up pinky swear that they will not show the content to anyone. I think ISG was even on CNN when David in Peru got busted. It has definitely been mentioned and screenshotted on the Peruvian and Dominican news outlets. The website or mongering in general has not even hiccupped from such publicity as far as I can tell. Certainly showing it to 1 hooker is not going to curtail anything.

[BionicMan]

the providers in China all read the site, there is even a dedicated thread for them to advertise for free.I think "all"is an over estimation, by the level of English knowledge most PRC providers have in their homeland.

On the other hand I recall each room at famous Annie's Massage in bkk had a sign asking customers to give reports on ISG and WSG (most likely confident the reporter were positive). Again, due to the limited English skills of some providers I doubt the majority could then follow up the relevant thread with proper underestanding. Maybe some did, maybe some shared the info with their fishbowl mates (or maybe not!) and surely the majority didn't care. We pass in and go and since we pay, they can csre the less on the rest.

[Amjeck]

Found nice 23 year old nice natural tits. $1600 baht bar fine WTF. She wanted 5000 LT. I got her 4000 (Let the ass chewing begin). She had a tight body no kids that I could tell. Coved blow job and tight as hell. Was a good time it but would not repeat Happy New Years.What's up with the CBJ? You payed a premium rate, and I'm shocked that BBBJ wasn't included. Was this choice yours or hers?

Are any of you guys running into cbjs's more and more in Pattaya?

[Member #4591]

The threat of my account should be permanently suspended was from Natty Bumpo.

I don't give a shit about defamation suits in thailand, why? Because the girls can never pin it on us (we're all fucking anonymous, so stop it with this nonsense), nor will they take a hooker's words seriously against a farang because the girls are doing an illegal act themselves.

Natty Bumpo, cute. You have to treat hookers nice in order for them to be nice to you. Life must suck.Really? Anonymous. When you describe a situation and the lady realizes who the punter is, that's all she needs to make a complaint. When there's a photo involved, it's much easier for her to prove, especially when the lady has similar photos of the room with her in it on her phone. You would be surprised at the photos the ladies will take in your restroom or hotel when you are taking a shower or sleeping or whatever. In the past, I have seen photos of girls in my condo or hotel on their Facebook. I had no idea they had taken those photos. Hot Shane posts many photos in the Thailand thread. What if one of the girls you revealed ISG to sees her photo. She knows who took it, where he lives and so on. Off to the police station for the complaint. Stop your ignorance man.

And by the way, prostitution is not a crime in Thailand. Only to benefit from the work of prostitution or minors in the act of prostitution is a crime. You have no idea mate. I would also be happy to post that law for you here if you wish. In that case, you are just a John and why should the so called hooker give a rats ass about you?

And what about treating hookers as you say right? Your argument would be to show ISG to the hookers so they will perform better? How about treating them with a little respect? You'd be surprised at the mileage you can get. You've got a lot to learn mate.

Finally, you should check the meaning of (should) because this word is used to communicate suggestions not threats.

[Banana Boi]

Hit a few gogo bars on Walking Street and LK tonight. Let's put it this way. It's midnight and I'm home. Girl's all too drunk from last night to work and tons of guys. A complete sausage fest at some clubs. I knew I should have stayed home when I was trying to round up a girl for a dinner date and they all replied too drunk.

[Member #4698]

Natty Bumpo, cute. You have to treat hookers nice in order for them to be nice to you. Life must suck.Wrong again. I wrote, "Sessions always go a lot better when the girl is having a good time," which is something you would most likey agree with if you were not being so defensive and pig headed. Look, just think about not showing girls the ISG and we can all move on.

[Member #4591]

Wrong again. I wrote, "Sessions always go a lot better when the girl is having a good time," which is something you would most likey agree with if you were not being so defensive and pig headed. Look, just think about not showing girls the ISG and we can all move on.Natty, I think we should stop wasting our time with this guy after my last post. Knowing we have a punter like this in our midst, I'm not going to post anymore detailed reports or photos. I see a lot of girls who have large circles of friends, it could end in disaster for me.

[Member #2041]

Guys, this is pointless. Of course ThomKatt is going to continue to be a jerk, and attempt to ingratiate himself with the girls by showing them ISG. And if Jackson suspends him, the fact is there will continue to be other punters amongst us who will show this venue to the girls, and who simply are just very slightly smarter so as to avoid bragging about it here. So we all need to protect our own interests with the knowledge that even if a particularly obtuse poster of the handle ThomKatt ceases to circulate amongst us, others who are just a tiny bit less obtuse will continue to represent the same danger, and the internet is a vast public resource so there is really no avoiding that reality. The simple fact is, one needs to modulate between the parallel tensions of passing along information, and protecting one's own separation from being able to be linked too clearly to the most incriminating of that information in the event that it makes it's way to specific girls who might be damaged by it.

[CallSign Papa]

Look, just think about not showing girls the ISG and we can all move on.ThomKatt's imperviousness to reason would seem to suggest he's of the Trump persuasion and therefore I think your extremely valid arguments are wasted.

[David 2]

ThomKatt's imperviousness to reason would seem to suggest he's of the Trump persuasion and therefore I think your extremely valid arguments are wasted.If we all add him to our "ignore list" we won't hear anything more from this troll.

Just go to any of his posts: click on his name, click on "View Profile", and click "Add to Ignore List", and POOF. He's gone. Good riddance.

[Mr Enternational]

If we all add him to our "ignore list" we won't hear anything more from this troll.

Just go to any of his posts: click on his name, click on "View Profile", and click "Add to Ignore List", and POOF. He's gone. Good riddance.I think you missed the point. The point was that people say he should not show this website to hookers. Putting him on your ignore list in no way prevents him from doing that.

[Banana Boi]

I will try to continue with actual reports in the midst of the cyber attacking! 555


Hit a few gogo bars on Walking Street and LK tonight. Let's put it this way. It's midnight and I'm home. Girl's all too drunk from last night to work and tons of guys. A complete sausage fest at some clubs. I knew I should have stayed home when I was trying to round up a girl for a dinner date and they all replied too drunk.I decided to head back out at 1 am. Haven't been to Sapphire for some time. Finally found a bar with semi normal girl: guy ratio and number of girls. My girls all too hungover to work but there were a couple of new ones there I need to investigate closer. Unfortunately, they were busy during the desperate hours.

[David 2]

I think you missed the point. The point was that people say he should not show this website to hookers. Putting him on your ignore list in no way prevents him from doing that.With all due respect I get that the point was to get him to change his behavior, but based on his posts all he wants to do is argue and call attention to himself.

This guy is argumentative, arrogant, and condescending. Nothing we say is going to change his position, so if we ignore him we can all get back to discussing the important matters rather than watching this troll succeed in causing mayhem on this board.

[Broxy]

Has any member been to club Sin? If so how was your experience there. I hope to be in Pattaya in may and plan to visit it previously have tried telephone bar De la Poste and Carre Blanc.

How does club din compare to these? Appreciate any comments thanks guys.

[Banana Boi]

Imo Club Sin girls are younger and MUCH prettier than CB and Post Office. A great club to hang in with friendly staff and girls. Worth a visit for sure. Drinks for both the ladies and customers were very cheap. Sorry I forgot the price.

[Pahllus Maximus]

I agree that it is not wise or etiquette to share another forum with the girls, but then again, it is not like it is secret or hard to find with Mr. Google, even for for a Thai street walker recently off the paddy fields in Isaan glued to her new smart phone toy. More to the point, does it matter? Does some street walker, assuming she can read English (a big assumption), have nay influence or pricing power let alone any incentive to improve service to a stream on one-timers before her shore career ends?

No.

Secondly, on face, strutting around bare assed naked in public, running off to hotels and / or and sucking off of guys in public is hardly redeeming or social climbing (let alone maintaining altitude), nor is having a shot of cum on her face / nostrils / mouth. Many. Or most. In Thai and / or other cultures would see this conduct as theéclassé and un-lady like. The same can be said for doing her anally or having her lick her friend (separately and / or simultaneously). So, this faux Asian "face" empathy more resembles a type of guilt of pretending to be culturally sensitive in bars that by their very existence are a direct full frontal assault on traditional Thai sensibilities. It may come as a surprise, but many Western men, earning multiples of local Thais, coming in, throwing cash around, groping and / or drunk and phucking the brains out of local Thai women is hardly debonaire, even if they are sensitive to the pussy power price signalling of two competing Isaan hos, but conveniently forgetting that the same hos are hardly the esteemed guests in polite Thai dinner tables.

I love these girls, and I treat them well, but please do keep a sense of reality when in sex Disneyland. Their golden skin and exotic charms / language does not transform a hooker to some delicate Asian high intellectual / sensitive being offended that that slobbering water buffalo (Caucasian) on heat chose their competitors rather than marrying her and sailing off into the sunset happily ever after with an orchestra playing. They see the water buffalo as walking ATM machines with no self-control at the whim of their pussy. As a fluent speaker of an Asian language, I can assure you that the west means many things, but foreign barbarian. Or beast. Is a common theme. The same is true of other cultures with cashed up peasant / strangers fly in / fly out and phucking their women, even Caucasian ones. Western guys trigger all sorts of stereotypes. Any of the resident western guys know it. A middle class Thai girl would be reluctant to hand with a white guy because of the risk of being associated with her loose sisters.

After 20 years of mongering in several continents, the more I see, the same it is. Girls are mostly in this for money. They hate getting phucked by strangers. They would rather just have a rich 95 year old intensive care to get married to or maybe a quickie before he croaks.

So enough of this "face" bullsh! T. Those of us old enough remember Cabernet Voltaire's "Don't Argue": you are in enemy territory, have fun, enjoy, you may even meet an exceptional nice girl who hooked for a while, but that's a mostly a Julia Roberts fairy tale. They girls are to trade pussy for cash to satisfy our lust. We are lustful because we are, after all, men, and secondly, are horny because of fat western white women throwing pots and pans around and no BJ's, lights out, and that's on a rare day.

Long live LOS and LBFM's who have added to our lives whilst exporting a renewable, high-value added service to aid Thailand's terms of trade and prop up its exchange rate. Imagine the Asian currency crisis in the 1990's if there were no pussy to sell. They should be recognized as the "bare-foot" doctors (like in China under Mao) doing good by doing well. But, keep it steadily in mind there are no blushes when asked point blank for rimming, anal, threesome, BBJCIM etc etc. It cracks me up reading about "face".

[Banana Boi]

Let's move on to some reviews. Where did everyone go tonight?

[Zahle]

.....
... Those of us old enough remember Cabernet Voltaire's "Don't Argue".CABARET Voltaire.

[DwayneJohnson]

The point was that people say he should not show this website to hookers. Putting him on your ignore list in no way prevents him from doing that.Take him to "Mumbai" forum, hookers read FR over there and put mongers under pussy pressure to write extremely exaggerated reports. Thus result is a mongering hell-hole with prices going through the roof. Glad that I am getting out of there.

[Broxy]

Can any member recommend clean comfy room near Soi post office max 1000 bht per night usually I always stay Soi Lengkee Soi Buakhao area but fancy being nearer to coconut bar. Any bars with clean comfy rooms anyone stay before and can recommend would be nice thanks guys.

[Smoothy]

I think you missed the point. The point was that people say he should not show this website to hookers. Putting him on your ignore list in no way prevents him from doing that.I have always thought that if I put someone on my ignore list, they should not be able to see my posts, and vice-versa. Instead, it just allows me to not see their posts, they can still see mine. Seems a wasted feature.

[Eric Swiss]

My experience on Soi 6 is that yes it is one of the busiest places in all of Pattaya. Also I was surprised at the selection of truly hot young providers. Good service or not is another matter. You never know what you will find in an unlikely venue. As one example, I stopped into The Nelson Hotel on the LH side as you walk down the soi from 2nd Road. I went in to grab a beer and shoot some pool. One of the girls out front was awfully close to stunning. Tall, curvy and very pretty. Nothing about her suggested ladyboy but as I write this maybe I was fooled, she looked that good. This is one small example. Sure there are worn out dragons in abundance, but also more young hot gals than I'm used to seeing and I'm no stranger to Soi 6. I did partake at The Red Point Bar. She came after me in the street and I liked her look. 24 yo professional bar girl with absolutely no mistaking her for the girl next door. I checked to see what she would do, including rimming and away we went. We started with a drink and then to be sure we are on the same page I pulled out my phone with the little video clip of the guy getting rimmed while she strokes him. She said "cannot". When I said "check-bin" she knew she would have to go back outside with nothing and face her "sisters". She again reversed and up we went. She was outstanding. As a side note the rooms are remarkably nice there.I don't have a problem doing Pattaya Walking Street at 1 am, or the oilies in Bangkok at 1 pm, but there's something about doing Pattaya Soi 6 mid-afternoon that is overwhelming. So many girls, a majority of them not that good looking, trying to hook you in, so many bars to choose from. No guarantee about service quality or room standards.

I believe there's marketing research that shows when your brain is deluged with multiple stimuli it just freezes. I can hold my own with 20+ hot chicks wai-ing at me in the line-up at Addict Massage on Soi 24/1, or with working the crowd at Insomnia and the I-Bar, but Soi 6 kind of stresses me out.

Any advice as "Pattaya Soi 6 for Dummies"? You know, something unfuckupable, that will not necessarily result in the best bang of my life, but at least dip a toe in the water to build comfort and experience.

I'm thinking maybe a 3-beer kind of walk. Clearly, from Crazy4Thai's report, the Red Point Bar seems to have at least one good-looking girl who, given sufficient negotiation skills, will provide nice service, and good rooms, so that would be a good starting point. What would a couple of other anchor points?

[Klassic]

Here's my experience of Pattaya, its quite different than others as I went through an agency and this is more of the agency's review:

http://www.thai-sexy-holiday.com/

That's the agency. Went for 1 week, paid 44,000 THB for girl+condo. The condo is pretty decent, nothing too special, with a decent pool downstairs, its in a quite area, literally 1 min walk from the condo to the famed Songthaew (Those buses which you pay 10 THB), they take you directly to walking street. - These are the basics.

The girl was decent, they aren't knockouts as you may see, most are linked to Mixx discotheque. The owner of the site is presumably German, nice guy. In total I had a good time in Pattaya especially through the agency, and according to me it was worth the money I paid. 44,000 THB for 1 week with a girl+condo. Some people probably get better for cheaper but that's my experience.

Also, the agency picks up and drops you off at BKK airport in a very good 4 x 4, basically the car was way better than I expected.

[Member #4591]

I have always thought that if I put someone on my ignore list, they should not be able to see my posts, and vice-versa. Instead, it just allows me to not see their posts, they can still see mine. Seems a wasted feature.I think the key is your ignore list, not his. Currently there is no blocking feature on this forum. Could be a good feature for paying members if it could be easily implemented.

[Member #4591]

Take him to "Mumbai" forum, hookers read FR over there and put mongers under pussy pressure to write extremely exaggerated reports. Thus result is a mongering hell-hole with prices going through the roof. Glad that I am getting out of there.That seems outlandish. If it were me, I would just stop using those providers. Anyways, the point here is that we don't need the providers to know about this forum. If they find out on their own or through the Dr. BJ's of this world through the owner of their shop so be it, but why do we need to help them. Those are not the girls I'm concerned about any ways. I'm concerned about the freelancers who agree to photos and videos under the promise they won't be posted on line. Then the said monger, goes and posts them. Or a post graphically describing an encounter with said monger using the ladie's name claiming she did A+ or BB or whatever else.

[Paolo99]

Any advice as "Pattaya Soi 6 for Dummies"? You know, something unfuckupable, that will not necessarily result in the best bang of my life, but at least dip a toe in the water to build comfort and experience.

I'm thinking maybe a 3-beer kind of walk.Hi Eric Swiss,

I would suggest that you don't really go there expecting to bang a girl. Just go there thinking about having a drink and not necessarily more. Like this you can just sit wherever you want and not care about the girls trying to make you enter their respective bar. If you spot a cute then fuck her and if not you'll not be disappointed. You should go first in one of the bigger and most famous bars as Ruby Club or The Pussy Bar or another like this (these ones should have more girls and they should not be annoying when you just come take a drink) , feel the atmosphere and have a look at their girls or the girls in bars nearby.

For beginning you could go in Ruby Club and once you're seated ask for Ying. Here is a pic from their facebook account, I think she is the one with green hair in the middle. She's got a great body, is young (around 19 if I remember well) , you don't see her face on the picture but I can guarantee you that she has a nice face (a lot more than most of Addict's girls). She comes from Surin and in October said that it's been 3 month that she was there (I know that they all say 3 month but I'm confident that she's not there for years). There is another slim and young girl in that bar whose name is Bow with a darker skin but when I was there she was already busy with another dude so I don't know if she is worth it. Rooms are OK and you should pay around 1500 including BF (350), FS (1000) , your drink and one for her (if you're a nice guy). If you're not successful just go in another bar or go back another day in another bar of Soi 6. You should definitely find some young and reasonably good looking girls.

[Smoothy]

I think the key is your ignore list, not his. Currently there is no blocking feature on this forum. Could be a good feature for paying members if it could be easily implemented.I absolutely agree. Then we could block nutty and over-sensitive dudes who carry a man purse from seeing our posts. That could help avoid any problems with any sensitive feelings getting hurt.

[Beno69]

Hi Eric Swiss,

...For beginning you could go in Ruby Club and once you're seated ask for Ying..Rubi is one of the Best in Soi 6 - clean rooms not like some other clubs. - but be careful: many LB! Specially, if they are so nice and tall.

[Pipe Layer99]

Hi Eric Swiss,
I would suggest that you don't really go there expecting to bang a girl. Just go there thinking about having a drink and not necessarily more. Like this you can just sit wherever you want and not care about the girls trying to make you enter their respective bar. If you spot a cute then fuck her and if not you'll not be disappointed. You should go first in one of the bigger and most famous bars as Ruby Club or The Pussy Bar or another like this (these ones should have more girls and they should not be annoying when you just come take a drink) , feel the atmosphere and have a look at their girls or the girls in bars nearby.
Great advice given by Paolo. I agree. Enjoy.

[Pipe Layer99]

Here's my experience of Pattaya, its quite different than others as I went through an agency and this is more of the agency's review:
.... Went for 1 week, paid 44,000 THB for girl+condo.... Also, the agency picks up and drops you off at BKK airport in a very good 4 x 4, basically the car was way better than I expected.When you come back, book your own hotel for about 1,000 to 1,500 a day and get a new girl for 1,500 a day (add taxi to and from the airport) and you will spend 1/2 of that price. Plus you can have a different girl everyday. Something to think about.

[Christian G]

Rubi is one of the Best in Soi 6 - clean rooms not like some other clubs. - but be careful: many LB! Specially, if they are so nice and tall.Many LB where? If you mean in soi6 yes, but not in Ruby. Ruby club have only girls in the staff, isn't a mixed bar.

[Wolvenvacht]

Here's my experience of Pattaya, its quite different than others as I went through an agency and this is more of the agency's review:

http://www.thai-sexy-holiday.com/

That's the agency. Went for 1 week, paid 44,000 THB for girl+condo. The condo is pretty decent, nothing too special, with a decent pool downstairs, its in a quite area, literally 1 min walk from the condo to the famed Songthaew (Those buses which you pay 10 THB), they take you directly to walking street. - These are the basics.

The girl was decent, they aren't knockouts as you may see, most are linked to Mixx discotheque. The owner of the site is presumably German, nice guy. In total I had a good time in Pattaya especially through the agency, and according to me it was worth the money I paid. 44,000 THB for 1 week with a girl+condo. Some people probably get better for cheaper but that's my experience.

Also, the agency picks up and drops you off at BKK airport in a very good 4 x 4, basically the car was way better than I expected.First report about this type of Holiday I have ever seen here. Kudos for that!

But can you please expand a bit on the "the girl was decent" part?

What sexual services did she provide? Once or twice a day? Or anytime you wanted? Did you spend any extra money on her (food, drinks, presents, .)? Any opportunity to sample some other girls? What other services (outside of the bedroom) did she provide?

[Klassic]

First report about this type of Holiday I have ever seen here. Kudos for that!

But can you please expand a bit on the "the girl was decent" part?

What sexual services did she provide? Once or twice a day? Or anytime you wanted? Did you spend any extra money on her (food, drinks, presents, .)? Any opportunity to sample some other girls? What other services (outside of the bedroom) did she provide?She provided the basics, she was okay with me going different positions on her. Asked her for Anal and she didn't know what it even was, didn't push it as I'm not a huge fan of Anal, did give a decent BJ with CIM (didn't ask for COF but she probably would've agreed). She provided as many times a day as I wanted, some days I just wanted once while other days I wanted 4 times. I spent money on food for both of us, nothing more except the transportation, obviously drinks as well. The site and owner are okay with changing girls, but I didn't. I joked around the idea of picking up another girl from the street for a threesome and she didn't disagree (but I didn't). She did provide a GFE experience and told me her basic story about how she is poor and whatnot. She wanted basically the night to end at MIXX as she was / is part of their lineup (I don't know how it works but she worked in MIXX as an attraction). Tipped her before leaving as she did a decent job.

As for the other guy suggesting I could do better for half the price. I don't disagree, I just am posting what I did and if someone wanted to go the same route as me, here's a review to help you out.

[Eric Swiss]

I followed the advice given on this forum by the other members and went to Ruby Club on Soi 6 in the early afternoon. There were more guys than girls. Only one girl was bangable, but some other punter who came after me was quick to offer her a lady drink and barfine her, so I just drank my beer and left. At least I got a better feel for the place, in case I want to explore further. Thanks for all the advice you gave me, the key is to be relaxed about it and let it flow.

Then I defaulted back to more standard methods, and at night after a go-go bar I went to the I-Bar. As I was walking around, some girl catches me by the elbow and tells me to talk to her friend. That was pretty direct! Turns out her friend, whose name was Bo, had seen me the night before and liked me. We went out to a short-time hotel, and I discovered that she really liked me, for some reason. She gave me a great time in bed. I banged her for a long time in all sorts of positions. It was extremely satisfying.

This reminded me of the old adage that it's not the monger who chooses the hooker, it's the girl who chooses who she wants to be paid by. At least that's the recipe to avoid starfish experience and mediocre service. Of course now if I go to the I-Bar again I will have to explain to her why as a rule I like to sample different girls and I avoid repeating. Or, who knows, she may convince me to break my rule for once!

[Mr Enternational]

Asked her for Anal and she didn't know what it even was, didn't push it as I'm not a huge fan of Anal,You have to say boom boom your ass.

[Kumbu]

She provided the basics, she was okay with me going different positions on her. Asked her for Anal and she didn't know what it even was, didn't push it as I'm not a huge fan of Anal, did give a decent BJ with CIM (didn't ask for COF but she probably would've agreed). She provided as many times a day as I wanted, some days I just wanted once while other days I wanted 4 times. I spent money on food for both of us, nothing more except the transportation, obviously drinks as well. The site and owner are okay with changing girls, but I didn't. I joked around the idea of picking up another girl from the street for a threesome and she didn't disagree (but I didn't). She did provide a GFE experience and told me her basic story about how she is poor and whatnot. She wanted basically the night to end at MIXX as she was / is part of their lineup (I don't know how it works but she worked in MIXX as an attraction). Tipped her before leaving as she did a decent job.

As for the other guy suggesting I could do better for half the price. I don't disagree, I just am posting what I did and if someone wanted to go the same route as me, here's a review to help you out.Thanks for this report, Klassic. A very interesting and unusual experience, certainly not your normal fare here on the pages of ISG. And thanks for sharing the details of intimate acts. I don't see any reason to criticize you for indulging in this package sex tour. It's a different experience, and it satisfied your needs. Enough said.

[Syzygies]

You have to say boom boom your ass."boom boom" is a very good expression for sex or fucking, but must be pronounced short, not rhyming with "room", but the "oo" should be pronounced short like the ou in could (in England), which may not come naturally to an American but normal for a German letter "u". Not sure if this vowel sound exists exactly in American English, since Americans pronounce good, wood, and could slightly differently to English people. Hopefully everyone has heard "boom boom" enough times already to get it right. I was surprised to find it in the Thai dictionary, and did not expect it to be mid tone.

บุมบุม
Boom (Mid) boom (Mid)
to fornicate (vulgar expression).

Do girls always know what an Ass is, regardless of pronounced American way or English way (Arse)? Which would seem like two different words to a Thai, due to different vowel sounds. I almost never use English in relation to such matters, unless I know the girl understands a lot.

If she says "You can have my ass", then I know she knows a lot.

Can be confusing to mix Thai and English together in same expression, for newbie girls with really low knowledge / experience. So I would say "Boom Boom Dtuut khoon" (bum bum dtuut khun. In alternative transliteration) to be safer.

Perhaps even simpler (easier to pronounce) is to ask in Thai:
"Aow gon dai mai" May I take (your) bum/ass?

Is "Pussy" a universally understood word, or what other word should be used in English?

I use Thai word "Jim" mostly for pussy (sometimes "Hoi") and "Dtuut" for ass, even though it is impolite.

No need to be using very polite words for impolite acts.

[Smoothy]

You have to say boom boom your ass.I got a good laugh out of this. I can't say it's not accurate though. Haha.

I had a girl in front of Nana hotel say something to me that I thought was the best opening line ever. As I walked by, she stood in front of me and her first words were not Hi, or Go with You, they were - "I want to lick your balls". I don't know who taught her to say that, but that was awesome!

[D Cups]

Hey Smoothy, did you let her?


I got a good laugh out of this. I can't say it's not accurate though. Haha.

I had a girl in front of Nana hotel say something to me that I thought was the best opening line ever. As I walked by, she stood in front of me and her first words were not Hi, or Go with You, they were - "I want to lick your balls". I don't know who taught her to say that, but that was awesome!.

[Betong]

. . . the "oo" should be pronounced short like the ou in could (in England), which may not come naturally to an American but normal for a German letter "u".I think any way you say "boom boom" the girls will understand it.

As far as polite and impolite, in the bars it doesn't matter but the problem is that some guys learn bar Thai and then try to use it out in regular society, where it doesn't go over so well. More than once I've been somewhere rather respectable (not my scene, but it comes with marrying a respectable woman) and some farang has used a word like "nom", which is about equivalent to "tits". Everyone has to kind of pretend they didn't hear him say it. (The polite word is "naa ok".).

[Smoothy]

Hey Smoothy, did you let her?

.As much as I was tempted simply because it was the best opening line I had ever heard, she was not my physical type. So I passed. I only hope she's strong enough to overcome her unfulfilled desire to lick my balls.

[Member #2041]

As much as I was tempted simply because it was the best opening line I had ever heard, she was not my physical type. So I passed. I only hope she's strong enough to overcome her unfulfilled desire to lick my balls.I'm guessing that, since this was on a public street, she did not specifically see YOUR balls, and thus she could only imagine the sensation. I am also guessing that, with that sort of approach to guys, she probably gained access another set of man-balls that she could lick in short order, so I suspect that she got over it and came away with at least 1000 additional baht in the process. Apparently, we'll never know if those replacement balls were actually a suitable substitute for yours - at least for her, if not for you.

[Pussycheck]

I'll visit Thailand by the end of this month (again) and have time there for 1 week. Last time in Thailand which was just recently last November I stayed in Bangkok only and discovered there nightclubs and discotheques only for finding girls because I'm interested in freelancing girls in nightclubs and discotheques only. I visited in Bangkok for example Spasso, Mixx and Insanity.

This time I would go to Pattaya to make a change but only in the case if the outlook of the freelancing girls there in nightclubs and discotheques like iBar / Insomnia or Mixx is at least as good as in Bangkok or even better.

What I liked in the clubs in Bangkok is that you can also find a lot of non-Thai girls like Vietnamese for example with whom I have had a good experience.

My question is to the ones of you who have visited nightclubs and discotheques in both Bangkok and Pattaya in the past half of year and who are demanding in the outlooks of the girls.

Thank you very much for your suggestions.

[Member #4591]

I'll visit Thailand by the end of this month (again) and have time there for 1 week. Last time in Thailand which was just recently last November I stayed in Bangkok only and discovered there nightclubs and discotheques only for finding girls because I'm interested in freelancing girls in nightclubs and discotheques only. I visited in Bangkok for example Spasso, Mixx and Insanity.

This time I would go to Pattaya to make a change but only in the case if the outlook of the freelancing girls there in nightclubs and discotheques like iBar / Insomnia or Mixx is at least as good as in Bangkok or even better.

What I liked in the clubs in Bangkok is that you can also find a lot of non-Thai girls like Vietnamese for example with whom I have had a good experience.

My question is to the ones of you who have visited nightclubs and discotheques in both Bangkok and Pattaya in the past half of year and who are demanding in the outlooks of the girls.

Thank you very much for your suggestions.In my opinion I Bar in Pattaya has a huge amount of freelancers in all shapes, sizes, and price ranges, so there is more selection in a very compact area of Pattaya, walking street. Prices 1,000 and up. On the other hand, Bangkok freelancers are spread all over the place at Mixx, Insanity, Sugar club, Levels, Thermae, Oscar, Spasso, and Climax. In my opinion, the closest experience you will get to IBar in Bangkok will be Climax. On most nights it's jammed packed after 11:00 PM with all sorts of freelancers but with less the amount of punters. Good luck mate.

[Smoothy]

I'm guessing that, since this was on a public street, she did not specifically see YOUR balls, and thus she could only imagine the sensation.I think my balls may have been hanging down out of my shorts. I may have forgotten to wear underwear that day.

[Eric Swiss]

Hi Eric Swiss,

I would suggest that you don't really go there expecting to bang a girl. Just go there thinking about having a drink and not necessarily more. Like this you can just sit wherever you want and not care about the girls trying to make you enter their respective bar. If you spot a cute then fuck her and if not you'll not be disappointed. You should go first in one of the bigger and most famous bars as Ruby Club or The Pussy Bar or another like this (these ones should have more girls and they should not be annoying when you just come take a drink) , feel the atmosphere and have a look at their girls or the girls in bars nearby.

For beginning you could go in Ruby Club and once you're seated ask for Ying. Here is a pic from their facebook account, I think she is the one with green hair in the middle. She's got a great body, is young (around 19 if I remember well) , you don't see her face on the picture but I can guarantee you that she has a nice face (a lot more than most of Addict's girls). She comes from Surin and in October said that it's been 3 month that she was there (I know that they all say 3 month but I'm confident that she's not there for years). There is another slim and young girl in that bar whose name is Bow with a darker skin but when I was there she was already busy with another dude so I don't know if she is worth it. Rooms are OK and you should pay around 1500 including BF (350), FS (1000) , your drink and one for her (if you're a nice guy). If you're not successful just go in another bar or go back another day in another bar of Soi 6. You should definitely find some young and reasonably good looking girls.Just to add another data point, I visited The Pussy Bar on Pattaya Soi 6 under the same circumstances: mid-day, not desperate pressure to hook up. The negative side is that they have no TV showing sports, so you don't have anything to do while you are scanning out the merchandise on offer. The positive side is that they have quite a few girls, and some of them are nice looking. There was one I almost went with, but for some reason I wasn't 100% comfortable with her vibe and her looks, so I passed. Then a new hottie walked in in street clothes. I harpooned her, but she said she had to change and take a shower first before starting to work, so she narrowly escaped my clutches. I finished my beer, and she still wasn't back, so I just ejected. But there is hope.

Ideal would be a bar with sports on TV and a decent selection of girls. I think it's going to have to be trial-and-error.

[Syzygies]

More than once I've been somewhere rather respectable (not my scene, but it comes with marrying a respectable woman) and some farang has used a word like "nom", which is about equivalent to "tits". Everyone has to kind of pretend they didn't hear him say it. (The polite word is "naa ok".).Ha Ha. Very amusing. Note that Nom is the standard word for milk. So referring to a girl's chest as Nom, is pretty much equivalent to referring to her "milks" which is not very polite, rather a bit informal commoner flippant style, but not vulgar. No where near to a really vulgar word like "hee" (C*nt), for example.

In a Hi So situation, it is unlikely that I would be talking about a girl's chest in any case, and "Naa Ok" might not even come to mind since I have hardly ever used this word in conversation, myself, but have heard a Thai speak it rarely when talking about a pretty girl with a nice figure. LOL.

Mostly I am in low class situations where I can get away with "Nom". Even LBs refer to their Nom, with no chance of getting any milk. LOL.

"Naa ok" and "Suang Ok" mean chest. I can't recall ever hearing the 2nd one.

"Dtao" or "Dtao Nom" means breast and often comes up in written stuff relating to breast feeding for example. Maybe other words but have not heard them.

"Hua Nom" is okay Word to use for nipple. Not really impolite, if need to talk about the nipple for some reason. Probably can be used for a man nipple as well, even there is no milk. I often use when Thai girls have very attractive nipples. LOL.

Tits seems to be a slang word in English, and I assume originates from Teat.

I have been with a group of Thai tourists in an overseas city eating dinner, in a Hi So restaurant, and was surprised to hear one or two of them say:

"One for the Hum" meaning "One more drink for the road" but literally translated means one more for the Dick. So I find Thais are into using impolite words at times, even with wives present, especially after a few drinks.

Very common to hear really vulgar speech from lower class Thais. E. g. "Huu bpen Hee" meaning your ears are like a C*nt (and not hearing very well). If girls are not that vulgar, they can omit the Hee word but still imply it, by asking "Huu bpen aray?" (what are you ears like?), with "Hee" being the known answer.

I find to know a Thai girl, you really have to know how polite she expects you to be with her, and in the company of others. Could easily get in to trouble by using words unacceptable to her, but quite acceptable to others.

Examples of some words that cannot be used with some Thai girls but can be used with others:
"hoi"(Rising tone) (pussy. But literally shellfish).
"moi"(Rising tone) (pubic hair) Safer word is "khon (R) phet (H)".
"ngian" (Falling Tone) (horny).

Extremely vulgar:
"dtolae" (bullshit artist) very dangerous word.
"Hee" (rising tone) (C*nt, pussy).
"Khuay" (cock, prick).

I am in big agreement. Learning words in the bar is very dangerous. It is important to know the meaning and how impolite or vulgar they might be, We can't just copy words we heard from bar girls.

If guys learn Thai in a proper school, they might not be taught the vulgar words at all, or if taught, must know how vulgar they are. A school can unfortunately teach only formal Thai words at times, and be missing common street talk words.

[Smoothy]

I find it best to not even learn the bad words at all. Ignorance is the safest bet.

[Paolo99]

I find it best to not even learn the bad words at all. Ignorance is the safest bet.I've always been curious about them to know if someone nearby is talking about me in a good or bad way.

It's better to never use them though. For example if someone is referring to you by using the word "man" (word used to refer to objects or animals, but not for humans) instead of "khao" or "khon nee" or use the word "mung" (you) instead of "khun" you can know that that person is having zero respect or consideration for you.

[Syzygies]

I find it best to not even learn the bad words at all. Ignorance is the safest bet.That means not speaking Thai at all with Thai girls, in which case may be hard to be understood in some cases. My girlfriend does not speak English, so I might have avoided her. LOL.

The problem is you will hear bad words from Thai girls, but you might not know which ones are okay And which are extremely bad. There are multiple possible words for the same thing.

We hear Farangs use bad words probably not knowing how bad they are quite often.

[Pussycheck]

In my opinion I Bar in Pattaya has a huge amount of freelancers in all shapes, sizes, and price ranges, so there is more selection in a very compact area of Pattaya, walking street. Prices 1,000 and up. On the other hand, Bangkok freelancers are spread all over the place at Mixx, Insanity, Sugar club, Levels, Thermae, Oscar, Spasso, and Climax. In my opinion, the closest experience you will get to IBar in Bangkok will be Climax. On most nights it's jammed packed after 11:00 PM with all sorts of freelancers but with less the amount of punters. Good luck mate.Thank you for your comment.

I got your point that in Pattaya in Walking street you can find everything where you have different places in Bangkok.

Would you say that in term of the outlook of the girls in Pattaya you find in general same or even better looking ones in Walking street compared to all mentioned places above in Bangkok? A difficult question I know.

Are there also many non-Thai freelancers, e. G. Vietnamese or CIS countries, available in Pattaya in Walking street today?

How is the performance of freelancers in Pattaya compared to their ones in Bangkok in general today?

Freelancer prices in Pattaya start from 1,000 THB and when you want to have a very good looking one for overnight how much do they demand usually today?

Thank you for your support.

[Member #4591]

Thank you for your comment.

I got your point that in Pattaya in Walking street you can find everything where you have different places in Bangkok.

Would you say that in term of the outlook of the girls in Pattaya you find in general same or even better looking ones in Walking street compared to all mentioned places above in Bangkok? A difficult question I know.

Are there also many non-Thai freelancers, e. G. Vietnamese or CIS countries, available in Pattaya in Walking street today?

How is the performance of freelancers in Pattaya compared to their ones in Bangkok in general today?

Freelancer prices in Pattaya start from 1,000 THB and when you want to have a very good looking one for overnight how much do they demand usually today?

Thank you for your support.I must tell you I'm not a big fan of Pattaya but when I go there and want freelancers, IBar is my choice. I actually find the freelance girls in Bangkok to be more to my liking. In Bangkok, I like the idea that I can decide before hand what kind of girl I want to see and then bang, choose the bar or club where that type of girl goes. For example if I want a model, I go to a G club, Spasso, or contact one on we chat. If I'm looking for a snooty Japanese style Thai girl, I go to Thermae, or if I want a cheaper more reasonable down to earth girl, I go to Climax. I think you get my point. Where as at IBar, they are all lumped together. As for performance, that is YMMV in most cases when referring to freelancers. I generally feel the Pattaya ladies have more competition and the scene there can be hectic at times with IBar popping at the rafters. Hence the girls seem to perform a little better than the Bangkok ladie's because they appreciate the baht more. On the other hand, the Bangkok girls are all hit and miss, In Bangkok it pays to build up a good list of contacts because repeat customers that can be trusted, usually are given the best service. The Bangkok freelancers will generally hold out to get their price and may even have no problem going home alone if they don't, so prices will be higher. As for looks, I am a big fan of white skin and that can generally be more available in BKK so this is something that would depend on each punter and his own tastes.

Guys these are my comments on the freelance scene only in BKK and Pattaya. We are not discussing beer bars, massage shops or even the Go Go bars or Hillaries, basically anywhere where there is no bar fine or house fee.

Hope this helps.

[Kumbu]

I must tell you I'm not a big fan of Pattaya but when I go there and want freelancers, IBar is my choice. I actually find the freelance girls in Bangkok to be more to my liking. I very much agree with this. Pattaya is great for what it is, but the freelancer scene, while abundant in sheer numbers, lacks the kind of variation that Bangkok offers. The girls in Bangkok are more sophisticated, at least on the surface, and present a more complex experience, one that fits my finicky palate. Unlike Bkkdog, I very much enjoy Pattaya, but the freelancer scene is better in BKK, IMHO.

Having said that, in Pattaya, iBar and Insomnia are the places to be. I find Lucifer too dark, too smoky and hard to navigate. I find the other places all hit and miss. But iBar / Insomnia are as close to a sure bet as you get. But in BKK, you can take your pick, as Bkkdog says: Climax, Mixx, Spasso, Levels, Spicey, Bossy, Insomnia, etc. , depending on what you want for the night.

[Smoothy]

I've always been curious about them to know if someone nearby is talking about me in a good or bad way.

It's better to never use them though. For example if someone is referring to you by using the word "man" (word used to refer to objects or animals, but not for humans).I tell them my name is Man. That helps to avoid being insulted in this way.

[Banana Boi]

Ibar is for guys on a budget. If you want high end freelancers go to Hollywood. Be prepared to pay Bangkok prices though.

[Geano]

Thank you for your comment.

I got your point that in Pattaya in Walking street you can find everything where you have different places in Bangkok.

Would you say that in term of the outlook of the girls in Pattaya you find in general same or even better looking ones in Walking street compared to all mentioned places above in Bangkok? A difficult question I know.

Are there also many non-Thai freelancers, e. G. Vietnamese or CIS countries, available in Pattaya in Walking street today?

How is the performance of freelancers in Pattaya compared to their ones in Bangkok in general today?

Freelancer prices in Pattaya start from 1,000 THB and when you want to have a very good looking one for overnight how much do they demand usually today?

Thank you for your support.Hey brother,

You mentioned Viet. Girls which club or area might one see or meet them? Visiting in couple of weeks Pattaya and Bangkok.

Thanks Geano.

[Geano]

Hey brother,

You mentioned Viet. Girls which club or area might one see or meet them? Visiting in couple of weeks Pattaya and Bangkok.

Thanks Geano.Yes what pussycheck. Asked.

[Haven123]

Ibar is for guys on a budget. If you want high end freelancers go to Hollywood. Be prepared to pay Bangkok prices though.Maybe so. Vs Hollywood. You would surely know better. I am not really on any budget but I remember you saying they play Thai music mostly and there are a lot of Japanese. I think you mentioned that is also not a dance place with high energy like Insomnia, which is what I like. Also, Insomnia is open until 6 am and then I can just go to their New York diner downstairs which is open past 7 am and serves pretty good Thai food.

Additionally, having kept tabs on the Ibar / Insomnia Facebook page I have seen several girls who also post about their check in and pics at Hollywood usually same night or days plus minus a few. And these are under 30 girls, so if they make more money at Hollywood, why would they be bothering with Insomnia / 808 etc. I dunno. I believe your conclusion may be a tad simplistic and perhaps unidimensional. Having said all that I might just give it a try. I tried Kinnaree for example, stayed several hours and did not care for it. Basically, I don't like regimented places with a system and a process and someone managing the girls. I don't like point and click either. If you look at the girls of soi 6 on Facebook they all say work work work. Boss happy etc. But when they post themselves at Insomnia or Ibar they almost aiways say fun and good times. Girls don't want to be stressed out like anyone else and ' have' to do ' something' just for work or a job or keep the boss / owner happy. So, I submit the view from.
their vantage point is a bit complicated. Many want to meet the man of their dreams. Alas even 1 out 100 will not be so lucky (maybe 1 out of say 300) though a higher percentage may get lucky enough to get a sponsor for a few months or a year. Just my 2 cents, YMMV. But Insomnia requires a lot of trying, a lot of time and patience, some game and the results maybe of lower percentage. But for me when trying to find real newbie freelancers who are not working at a go go or soi 6 or a beer bar, are under 27 and decent ( but not top looks) there is real pleasure from the chase and the challenge. For example, I totally hate sitting down , so do most guys sit at a table at Hollywood ?

[Pussycheck]

Ibar is for guys on a budget. If you want high end freelancers go to Hollywood. Be prepared to pay Bangkok prices though.Do you mean at Hollywood disco you find the best looking freelancing girls. Is it a similar place than Spasso nightclub in Bangkok?

[Member #4591]

Hey brother,

You mentioned Viet. Girls which club or area might one see or meet them? Visiting in couple of weeks Pattaya and Bangkok.

Thanks Geano.Vietnamese girls frequent We Chat, Spasso, and Mixx mostly in Bangkok. I have not met any in Pattaya, but I assume that they will be around. In Pattaya try Hollywood.

[Member #4591]

Ibar is for guys on a budget. If you want high end freelancers go to Hollywood. Be prepared to pay Bangkok prices though.I agree with you to a point, but high end freelancers can still be found in IBar. The issue is they are mixed in with everyone else so it may be difficult to locate them on a busy night which is always. It's a good one stop shop LOL. Hollywood on the other hand is full of normal girls and freelancers, it's not open as late as IBar, and full of Chinese and Japanese guys. It has it's good points and should not be left out of your search for high end freelancers in Pattaya.

I completely forgot about it, so thanks to Banana BOI for including in.

On a side note, in Pattaya, I would also search the beer bars. It does. It have that go go bar feel to me. Yes there is a bar fine but I have often found very high ends girls in them. They are new to the biz and get their start there. Once they realize their talents are being wasted, they go freelance.

[OlderMan4U]

Hey,

If you guys meet a bargirl and they want to stay in touch, do you worry they will ask for money sooner or later?

Just curious.

[Banana Boi]

If you guys meet a bargirl and they want to stay in touch, do you worry they will ask for money sooner or later?No. Never. No girl has ever asked me for money. I don't come across as an easy mark.

If one asks you for money remove them from your contacts.

[Member #4591]

Hey,

If you guys meet a bargirl and they want to stay in touch, do you worry they will ask for money sooner or later?

Just curious.It is a given that if you stay in touch with a bar girl and there is even a hint of a relationship outside of work and the bar, she will ask you for money. Think about it. They are working in the bar for a reason. I thought you were an experienced monger and visitor to Thailand. This is a real rookie question. I don't mean that in a negative way but just wondering.

[Bdonkadonk]

Hey,

If you guys meet a bargirl and they want to stay in touch, do you worry they will ask for money sooner or later?

Just curious.During all these years I never had a girl asking me for money (besides what I am paying for the sex), so I was very surprised when it happened after my last trip to Pattaya which was in December.

I was with a girl in MissBHaven in Soi 6 and I was ONE time with this girl. She was new to the game and she was quite OK to be with so I took her Line, just in case. But with her I was happy to meet her that one time only and I didn't want to repeat. She sent a message though, indicating that she would be happy if I came back for her.

I passed her bar but just waved to her, like saying Hello, and I did this a couple of times so she must have understood that I didn't want to go with her again. About a week or so after I came home from my trip she first sent a message to me, saying that she didn't have much money, but I didn't reply to that message. After a couple of days more she sent another message saying "Honey, I want to be paid 10,000 Baht for children".

I was like, WTF! What is this girl thinking, does she really believe there would be even the slightest chance that I would send money to her, like 10 000 Baht? After being with her only one time and not even wanting to repeat. I consider this thing to be something extremely odd to happen, to be asked for money after just one encounter in a short time bar in Soi 6. Has something like this ever happened to any of you guys? Of course I blocked her right away in Line and I never ever again wish to even speak with her.

[MrPrice5555]

Hey,

If you guys meet a bargirl and they want to stay in touch, do you worry they will ask for money sooner or later?

Just curious.If you keep your relationship casual, she might hesitate to ask you but she will give you many hints that she needs money but if you show you are too much into her, then yes she will start asking money sooner or later.

This is what I learnt they are always in need money because they sent most of the money back home for their family and they stay broke most of the time even after making around 40 k baht per month.

So its up to you how you want to be with the girl, do you want to be casual or serious.

[Member #4591]

During all these years I never had a girl asking me for money (besides what I am paying for the sex), so I was very surprised when it happened after my last trip to Pattaya which was in December.

I was with a girl in MissBHaven in Soi 6 and I was ONE time with this girl. She was new to the game and she was quite OK to be with so I took her Line, just in case. But with her I was happy to meet her that one time only and I didn't want to repeat. She sent a message though, indicating that she would be happy if I came back for her.

I passed her bar but just waved to her, like saying Hello, and I did this a couple of times so she must have understood that I didn't want to go with her again. About a week or so after I came home from my trip she first sent a message to me, saying that she didn't have much money, but I didn't reply to that message. After a couple of days more she sent another message saying "Honey, I want to be paid 10,000 Baht for children".

I was like, WTF! What is this girl thinking, does she really believe there would be even the slightest chance that I would send money to her, like 10 000 Baht? After being with her only one time and not even wanting to repeat. I consider this thing to be something extremely odd to happen, to be asked for money after just one encounter in a short time bar in Soi 6. Has something like this ever happened to any of you guys? Of course I blocked her right away in Line and I never ever again wish to even speak with her.Out of the blue like that with no indication from you that you wanted to continue things further? This new girl was just taking direction from the other girls or momason to take you for some cash.

[Syzygies]

I passed her bar but just waved to her, like saying Hello, and I did this a couple of times so she must have understood that I didn't want to go with her again. About a week or so after I came home from my trip she first sent a message to me, saying that she didn't have much money, but I didn't reply to that message. After a couple of days more she sent another message saying "Honey, I want to be paid 10,000 Baht for children".
No it does not happen to me, quite like that. Firstly, the message is not really decent English, so I cannot guess the exact implied meaning. We don't know if she has any children. LOL Also it seems to be a bad translation from Thai, as it reads a little too much on the demanding side and lacks any detail. Naturally you would ignore it. Sure I did get occasional request for money, usually with a more sensible reason like paying the rent or something very minor (which still could have been bullshit or not). Most of my contact girls never asked me for money. More likely I asked them for a meet up where they could make some money. Even then, they sometimes had other priorities (more than money).

It is not really a good idea to collect contact details from girls, unless you are totally hooked on them and cannot bare for them to disappear, or at least know them well for some period of time.

[Member #2041]

Out of the blue like that with no indication from you that you wanted to continue things further? This new girl was just taking direction from the other girls or momason to take you for some cash.I would think that it should cost at least 10000 baht to buy a child.

[Old New Guy]

I was like, WTF! What is this girl thinking, does she really believe there would be even the slightest chance that I would send money to her, like 10 000 Baht? .She believes that it COULD happen, having seen other girls receiving that kind of money.

[Mr Enternational]

Out of the blue like that with no indication from you that you wanted to continue things further? This new girl was just taking direction from the other girls or momason to take you for some cash.Besides that, I do not believe the message was personal for him. A copy and paste went out to every foreigner in her phone. No need to block. Just ignore it. Next time you talk to her it will be like the message was never sent.


This is what I learnt they are always in need moneyWell who is not always in need of money? I paid my bills today but next month I will have to pay them again. We have jobs so that we can have recurring pay and a steady stream of money. If you send somebody money you think they will never need money again? Nope. Something else will surely come up the same as it does in everybody's life. Not trying to solve someone else's financial problems no matter how good they fuck.

[Hello69]

I've looked online for prices at BJ bars but am unclear on the total cost. 800 baht seems to be the average rate for a BJ at a BJ bar. However, it's not clear whether that includes the room / bar fine cost which is usually 300 baht. So I don't know if it's 800 total (500 to the girl + 300 to the bar) or 1,100 (800 to the girl + 300 to the bar).

[Bdonkadonk]

Out of the blue like that with no indication from you that you wanted to continue things further? This new girl was just taking direction from the other girls or momason to take you for some cash.Yes, out of the blue just like that and with no indications from me whatsoever of even wishing to have any further contact with her. That's why I was really suprprised to receive her message demanding money. You are probably right that she got directions from the other girls or the mamasan to try and get some cash from me.


... We don't know if she has any childrenShe has a newly born son, she told me that and the son is staying with her mother. Her brests were even filled with milk and looked big and nice and after I squeezed her boobs milk was coming out. Not really something that turned me on but the boobs did look big and nice though.


Besides that, I do not believe the message was personal for him. A copy and paste went out to every foreigner in her phone. No need to block. Just ignore it. Next time you talk to her it will be like the message was never sent.You can very well be right, that the message was sent to more guys that she has contact with. However, I feel good about blocking this girl because I don't wish to have any further contact with her. And from being blocked maybe she can feel and understand that is bad behavior to make such demands to guys that she stays in contact with. There is no sense or reason at all to make such demands of money from only meeting one time in a bar in Soi 6.

[FL Hawk]

Hey,

If you guys meet a bargirl and they want to stay in touch, do you worry they will ask for money sooner or later?

Just curious.I guess I have been asked for money twice. The first time was with a BR FL girl. She was actually a very classy lady who admitted she was selling her body, then later stated her son needed surgery and she was trying to raise, oh, 10 K baht or so. No idea if that was true, and while she didn't come out and directly ask for money beyond what we had already negotiated, I did give her a little extra, but mostly because she was a good lay with great English and acted very mature. She was very attractive, so I am sure she was able to raise the money if the story was true.

Second was more recent. I met a girl online on Tinder last November while in Pattaya. She sent me her Line ID, but I didn't try contacting her again until just 2 weeks ago. She was not much of a conversationalist, but I did learn she worked every day as a hair stylist in Pattaya and she said she was poor and was supporting her parents. (A common statement.) I asked her to go to Ko Larn next time I was there and model for me. She said no nude stuff, and I said fine as I was not looking for that, then I got a message saying "I no money send to my dad tomorrow 4000 can you help me pleas?" (exact copy). I respond with "I am in USA, not Pattaya now. " She responds with "if you want to help me you can do". I did not respond for a while and she says "Quite is ok". Yes, she misspelled quiet. I am temped to reply back, as she is a cute girl, but I sure am not going to send money to a girl I never met! I guess by saying it was ok to be quiet means she realized she went too far and wants to keep herself in my plans. Her Tinder name is Pronmanee, so if anyone has any info on her.

But good girls won't ask for money. They will take it if you offer, but they won't come out an ask. My non-pro, virgin Thai GF will spend her own money to come see me and not ask me to reimburse her. I said I would do so, and I do, but if the girl really wants to see you, they will find a way.

I do have two girls now that I have been with and exchanged Line addresses with. One I exchanged with last April, though I have known her since April of 2015. The other I was with last November. These are the only actual workers I have been with who I have exchanged contact info with. Neither has hit me up for money.

But I do think it is ok to stay in contact with girls you like.

[Member #2041]

I've looked online for prices at BJ bars but am unclear on the total cost. 800 baht seems to be the average rate for a BJ at a BJ bar. However, it's not clear whether that includes the room / bar fine cost which is usually 300 baht. So I don't know if it's 800 total (500 to the girl + 300 to the bar) or 1,100 (800 to the girl + 300 to the bar).BJ Bars typically don't have bar-fines for BJs, they are done in-house, either in a curtained off area, like at [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900), or right out in public on a couch at S-O-L. Takeout is generally for longer time FS.

[Hello69]

BJ Bars typically don't have bar-fines for BJs, they are done in-house, either in a curtained off area, like at CodeWord900, or right out in public on a couch at S-O-L. Takeout is generally for longer time FS.Thanks 2041. The reason I asked is because I went to Excite bar yesterday and paid 800 to a girl for a BJ in a curtained off section of the bar. Later when I paid for my drinks, they also threw in a 300 barfine fee which left me thinking I should have only tipped the girl 500. I went to another bar later (forgot the name but it was near Club 4) and they quoted me 700 for the girl and 300 for the room.

So that was 2 different BJ bars that both wanted either a barfine or a room fee for doing it on premises. Are these bars the exceptions to the rule or did I get ripped off?

I'll check out CodeWord900 and see if it's any different, although the girls I saw outside yesterday were not appealing.

BTW, what is S-O-L?

[Banana Boi]

I've looked online for prices at BJ bars but am unclear on the total cost. 800 baht seems to be the average rate for a BJ at a BJ bar. However, it's not clear whether that includes the room / bar fine cost which is usually 300 baht. So I don't know if it's 800 total (500 to the girl + 300 to the bar) or 1,100 (800 to the girl + 300 to the bar).If you are referring to places like La poste office on soi lengkee it's 300 BF. 800 BJ and 1000 fs includes BF.

Member, which pattaya bj bars are you referring to? I'm definitely interested in no bf bars.

[Wolvenvacht]

Hey,

If you guys meet a bargirl and they want to stay in touch, do you worry they will ask for money sooner or later?

Just curious.Why should you worry? If she ever asks, you can say yes or no. Up to you.

I've had girlfriends (not bargirls) asks for support, so it is something that can happen in any relationship.

But worry about it? Never.

[Syzygies]

Hey,

If you guys meet a bargirl and they want to stay in touch, do you worry they will ask for money sooner or later?

Just curious.Clearly depends on whether the guy is "Jai dee" (good heart) or not. Tough guys won't be concerned. Soft guys should be. Personally I do not collect girl contacts too quickly unless the girl is important. I don't want continual messages from unimportant girls, whether they ask for money or not.

One girl used to send me pictures of flowers and Thai poetry nearly every day, wasted on my type, and wanted to be my girlfriend. I did not want her so much and did not wish to communicate with her daily. She would say the same thinks all the time. I liked her 20 years ago. LOL.

[Old New Guy]

When they are strange they really are. Long story short, I left Marine disco with a girl (No) which seemed to be willing, slim and enough good looking. I got the feeling that she was surely a bit drunk but also with an attitude different from most others. It was raining and my place is far (by thai lady standards), so we waited a little but it wasn't stopping, during which she was a bit strange. She was insisting that it would have been OK to just drive to my place, well according to me it would not have been fun to get there totally soaked. Finally I bought a raincoat for her, while I would have worn my jacket. She would not have nothing of that, according to her I should have been the one wearing the raincoat. I had been patient until then, but it became clear to me that I was risking disappointment and arguing with an unstable, tired girl which would not even make her demands clear. Left her on 2nd Rd. and got home. Wearing the raincoat.

[Member #2041]

If you are referring to places like La poste office on soi lengkee it's 300 BF. 800 BJ and 1000 fs includes BF.

Member, which pattaya bj bars are you referring to? I'm definitely interested in no bf bars.Those were Bangkok BJ bars. S-O-L was Star-of-Light in Patpong. The one that got censored by the forum for some inexplicable reason is the one named after Vladamir Nabokov's youthful hypersexual nymphet - but I believe that there is also an outpost of the same chain of BJ Bars in Pattaya. The Bangkok outpost is on Sukhumvit Soi 8. The Pattaya outpost of the same name is on Soi Chiyapoon. I've never been to it in that location, as it used to be on Soi LK Metro when I last patronized that establishment and relieved my excess man-juice into the mouth of a well skilled employee of said establishment.

I should add that I have not been to Thailand in nearly 5 years, although I was there at least 8 different times between 2005 and 2012, so my info with respect to bar fines could be out-dated, and other gents information might me more up to date and thus more accurate.

[Broxy]

Hope this not sound like a weird request on this site but not been in many Soi 6 bars for quite a few years but going Patts in May and wondering if any members can tell me which bars on Soi 6 currently have pool tables inside? I think pussy club and bee corner bar do have but not sure which others have them. If any members can tell me others it would be greatly appreciated I like to play a little pool and get to know the lady a little before going upstairs to do the deed,

thanks guys.

[LittleBigMan]

Raining cats and dogs so what else to do?

It has been raining all night and continues this morning.

Since I live on the Darkside, with all the construction the last few years on Sukhumvit and the night time police checks it makes it easier at times to just get a room for a few hours or the night near Walking St. If I had too many drinks or just need to do a BF. Majority of the girls these days on W. S. , if they don't know me well will not go ST / LT with me on my bike to the Darkside. At times could be a advantage because if it doesn't go well I'm not stuck with them for the rest of the night. These days, maybe old age I rather sleep alone as soon as I'm done I can't get rid of them soon enough no matter how GFE, they might be. So, on nights when it rains and I'm on W. S. I just get a room on Soi b J. So I don't get soaked or end up with a dud.

We are all different, not only in taste with looks etc. We can't all be hardcore and have the balls to do all the things being mentioned although that is exactly what should be done! I've been told by my brother and close family and friends I have no problem cutting someone throat but beyond them have a hard time saying no to a girl. I be the first one to admit it that is true and I'm getting better but have plenty of tire marks on my back.

As noted, not only in lost of face and believe me when it comes to lost of face it does exist in Thailand, in many forms and degree. I have a 1/4 inch cut by a butcher knife on my left between my ear and eye to prove it so close the doctor told me just a little closer there I would have been dead. The key as noted is if you put yourself in the position for it to happen it most likely will? And there are times because we are different and come across differently the girls here in the business can smell us softy a mile away.

So, putting yourself in the position is if you are too accommodating to everything, repeating with the same girl and asking for her number etc. For many this isn't a problem if the girls sense you aren't going to put up with it. Believe it or not these girls have a school of themselves in providing a interview on you. They aren't asking you " if you been to Pattaya before because they want to be your tour guide ". We hunt for the GFE, when you get it GFE, it comes with baggage and attitude just like the real GFE back home. Girlfriend gets jealous what is yours is also hers?

So when it comes to money, one shouldn't be offended. As Mr. E, noted a girl who ask for 10,000 baht and just slept with you 1 time most likely doesn't even know or remember she has. She throws it out to everyone why not she got nothing to lose? In the end, if no Charlie Tuna bites she is no worst off. They know no bank is going to lend it to them, not even the mafia or loan shark is going to do it unless you have something they can collect on? So why not a customer they just met? They have the best ATM Debit card in the world better than Visa or M/C, and it is call a pussy!

Believe, there are the majority that wouldn't lend or give them the money! But I've been here long enough here in Pattaya that know first hand that it happens and these minority stories spread like wild fire to be majority so that is why they ask. I have heard it all sometimes the stupid excuses why? It would make your head spin around in circle. There are lots of guys who visit Thailand, that have something missing in their lives and once they step foot in the LOS, with the exchange rate being 35-1, now makes them think they're the Clinton Foundation or something. I have a cousin who has a friend who I've known for 4 decades, has a good pension and given away at least 10 million baht, he has friends who he use to work with who lives in Pattaya and have done the same if not more. I met them a few times and no longer drink or eat with them because I just can't stomach there stories and complaints.

There are guys who are missing something in their lives plus not having much upstairs and being stubborn all over Pattaya, and these working girls have these stories. Does any of the above make me better than them NO, because I have a soft spot too but I'm not giving away the store or even 10,000 baht. I can easily say no or nothing what is tougher is someone asking you for something smaller (for me at least) a amount like a few thousand baht. Today, I rarely give my number out to someone new because doing so put yourself closer for something you not want to happen. I protect myself more and try to come across so they don't even think about asking but I do it politely and respectfully to them.

In all my years, I've never been ask for money by girls I know and been with who work in GoGo's but when it comes to Beer Bars, Gentlemen Clubs, and in general Bar or clubs on the Darkside, once they get my number it happens, the request for money! So based on what I said above giving out a number especially if you can't say no is not a good idea?

I might be wrong, but the BJ place once in LK Metro, Lo-l-tas who now is on Chaiyapoon?

Happy New Year!

[Syzygies]

Besides that, I do not believe the message was personal for him. A copy and paste went out to every foreigner in her phone. No need to block. Just ignore it. Next time you talk to her it will be like the message was never sent.
Ha Ha. I never really experienced the type that seemed so impersonal. Indicates a pathetic girl or useless mamasan assisting.

Normally, I think girls are more likely to ask a guy that seems hooked on her, however some girls could have several guys hooked on her, and ask them all for money. She will pretend there is only one target. LOL Girls often promise not to disappear after receiving the money, but they usually do disappear for a time or forever. I know this from experience. LOL You can always get superseded by some new boyfriend of the girl with more money and more promises (that may be bullshit promises).

So its always better and cheaper to pay the girl for services rendered. "You need 4 k, you had better come over and fuck my brains out all night for it. " If she needs a lot, she better give a very regular service, to get the money gradually. Let her "borrow" from someone else.

It pays to be a big butterfly, as this helps reduce the chances of girls asking for money.

[Christian G]

The one that got censored by the forum for some inexplicable reason is the one named after Vladamir Nabokov's youthful hypersexual nymphet - but I believe that there is also an outpost of the same chain of BJ Bars in Pattaya. The Bangkok outpost is on Sukhumvit Soi 8. The Pattaya outpost of the same name is on Soi Chiyapoon. I've never been to it in that location, as it used to be on Soi LK Metro when I last patronized that establishment and relieved my excess man-juice into the mouth of a well skilled employee of said establishment.LOL-tas in Bangkok Sukhumvit Soi8 is 800 b for BJ. The branch in Pattaya Soi Chaiyapoon is 700 b for BJ.

[Old New Guy]

Since I live on the Darkside, with all the construction the last few years on Sukhumvit and the night time police checks it makes it easier at times to just get a room for a few hours or the night near Walking St. If I had too many drinks or just need to do a BF. Majority of the girls these days on W. S. , if they don't know me well will not go ST / LT with me on my bike to the Darkside. At times could be a advantage because if it doesn't go well I'm not stuck with them for the rest of the night. These days, maybe old age I rather sleep alone as soon as I'm done I can't get rid of them soon enough no matter how GFE, they might be. So, on nights when it rains and I'm on W. S. I just get a room on Soi b J. So I don't get soaked or end up with a dud.
Same story here. I normally don't drink but can do without the hassle of the police checks, by now I know where they stand. On leaving W. S. Drive up on the side street (saisong 16) and avoid major crossings. To get on the darkside avoid driving north by the railroad, they do checks there and on the Suk. 53 crossing. Better drive up central to Suk south, if on a bike there is a "special" U-turn that you can make after 200 m, just look other bikers doing the same. Time ago they had big stops on Suk going south by the police station with pitiful tourist police doing the screening on foreigners for them, however that would be a day-only money rising operation. I'm so glad I didn't took a S. T room with the crazy girl mentioned before either!

[Danifat]

I've looked online for prices at BJ bars but am unclear on the total cost. 800 baht seems to be the average rate for a BJ at a BJ bar. However, it's not clear whether that includes the room / bar fine cost which is usually 300 baht. So I don't know if it's 800 total (500 to the girl + 300 to the bar) or 1,100 (800 to the girl + 300 to the bar).At most of the BJ Bars like the Telephon, Excite, La Poste etc. It is 300 Baht for the Bar and 500 Baht for the BJ of the Girl. Short time you can negotiate for 700.00 for the girl.

Probably you can get it even cheaper at the bars in Soi 6 as there the number of the service is much higher than the demand of the possible customers.

In December 2016 I had the feeling that there were a significant decrease in visitors compared to the past 5 years. Especially the local weekend visitors were missing and a big decrease in Korean was visible.

It seems to me that the Russian market shows an upward trend again. Nowadays the walking street from the Marine Bar southwards is ruled by Russian interest. (with very poor looking Russian hookers who could never work in any decent clubs in central Europe).

[Mr Enternational]

For those that think they are safe because they pay a bar fine.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/963033-pattaya-under-age-sex-bar-busted/

[Member #4591]

For those that think they are safe because they pay a bar fine.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/963033-pattaya-under-age-sex-bar-busted/ It is against the forum rules to discuss or post a link to this kind of information in the forum. Please request Jackson to delete your post or if you have time, you can edit it out and post something else.

[Member #4591]

When they are strange they really are. Long story short, I left Marine disco with a girl (No) which seemed to be willing, slim and enough good looking. I got the feeling that she was surely a bit drunk but also with an attitude different from most others. It was raining and my place is far (by thai lady standards), so we waited a little but it wasn't stopping, during which she was a bit strange. She was insisting that it would have been OK to just drive to my place, well according to me it would not have been fun to get there totally soaked. Finally I bought a raincoat for her, while I would have worn my jacket. She would not have nothing of that, according to her I should have been the one wearing the raincoat. I had been patient until then, but it became clear to me that I was risking disappointment and arguing with an unstable, tired girl which would not even make her demands clear. Left her on 2nd Rd. and got home. Wearing the raincoat.So let me get this straight. You kicked the girl off on 2nd Rd because she wanted you to wear the raincoat. You call her difficult because she didn't want to wait until the rain stopped to go to your place. Hmmmm.

[Member #2041]

So let me get this straight. You kicked the girl off on 2nd Rd because she wanted you to wear the raincoat. You call her difficult because she didn't want to wait until the rain stopped to go to your place. Hmmmm.Well, I've kicked a girl out for insisting that I wear a raincoat after it was agreed that I wouldn't need to. But I suspect we're talking about something different.

[Mr Enternational]

It is against the forum rules to discuss or post a link to this kind of information in the forum. Please request Jackson to delete your post or if you have time, you can edit it out and post something else.Incorrect. It is against the rules to discuss procurement or partaking. It is not against the rules to warn someone to beware. The same as there is an entire thread on how to spot a ladyboy. It does not discuss how to go about getting them or what posters have done with them.

[Old New Guy]

Incorrect. It is against the rules to discuss procurement or partaking. It is not against the rules to warn someone to beware. The same as there is an entire thread on how to spot a ladyboy. It does not discuss how to go about getting them or what posters have done with them.Imagine ISG with a Like button. You wouldn't be reading postings like mine.

[BionicMan]

It is against the forum rules to discuss or post a link to this kind of information in the forum. Please request Jackson to delete your post or if you have time, you can edit it out and post something else.The information on a "successfull" bust is a good information preventing or warning board members to patronise a bar where [CodeWord903] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord903) girls might be available.

When you are dealing with a 17 yo you might not notice she is if that age as she might appear (or tell) 18 or 19.

There is a thin calendar line more than anything else.

And get into troubles not necessarily willing to get a real [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girl.

I assume those perverts are not loking for 17 yo but a real low teen.

Still, technically and legally, you will be treated as such perverts.

So good to know about the bar name and the story.

[Syzygies]

When they are strange they really are. Long story short, I left Marine disco with a girl (No) which seemed to be willing, slim and enough good looking. I got the feeling that she was surely a bit drunk but also with an attitude different from most others. It was raining and my place is far (by thai lady standards), so we waited a little but it wasn't stopping, during which she was a bit strange. She was insisting that it would have been OK to just drive to my place, well according to me it would not have been fun to get there totally soaked. Finally I bought a raincoat for her, while I would have worn my jacket. She would not have nothing of that, according to her I should have been the one wearing the raincoat. I had been patient until then, but it became clear to me that I was risking disappointment and arguing with an unstable, tired girl which would not even make her demands clear. Left her on 2nd Rd. and got home. Wearing the raincoat.Maybe your post has not explained the situation at all well. Perhaps you should try again to make it make sense, rather than yourself appearing to be the unstable one, very concerned about getting soaked, but refusing to wear the raincoat. Try not to leave us all totally baffled.

Normally most Thai girls do not want to get soaked (scared of getting sick from poluted rain in Bangkok at least), but your post did not seem to portray that, nor really explain why anyone would be soaked. Did you intend to drive your own car that was parked too far away? (I assume not). Did you intend to walk the whole way? Would you have got soaked getting into a Taxi?

As per BKK Dog reply, I don't get it. One has to suspect you were having communication problems with the girl as well.

The only sense of your post that I can surmise, is that it was raining so girl wanted to go to your place immediately in a taxi, but you did not want to pay for the taxi, yet willing to buy a raincoat (which hardly makes sense) ? Perhaps you intended not to use a taxi but the girl did not comprehend this? Can that be it, or totally wrong? Its the only scenario I could come up with to explain the arguing over who should wear the raincoat. A complete misunderstanding.

[Old New Guy]

Its the only scenario I could come up with to explain the arguing over who should wear the raincoat.Try thinking harder. In which case two people on a vehicle get wet when raining?

[Eric Swiss]

I noticed that there are quite a few massage shops that are open during daytime on Second Road between Central Festival and Central Pattaya Road, on the beach side of Second Road. They have girls hanging outside, some of whom are pretty. They have suggestive names such as Joy Massage or Charming Massage. One of them, Top House Massage, also offers rooms for rent, which suspiciously sounds like a short-time motel.

I assume these are originally legit places, but this being Pattaya, I cannot think that rules against the masseuse giving a "special" to her customer for a thousand Baht would be stringently enforced. If so, this would be a good alternative during mid-day to the bars on Soi 6 and to the dedicated boom-boom places on Soi Honey such as Paradise Massage and Up To You Massage, both of which I have already sampled and reviewed.

Does anybody have any experience with these ostensibly legit massage places that may (or may not) offer extras during daytime?

[Josh Dales]

I noticed that there are quite a few massage shops that are open during daytime on Second Road between Central Festival and Central Pattaya Road, on the beach side of Second Road. They have girls hanging outside, some of whom are pretty. They have suggestive names such as Joy Massage or Charming Massage. One of them, Top House Massage, also offers rooms for rent, which suspiciously sounds like a short-time motel.

I assume these are originally legit places, but this being Pattaya, I cannot think that rules against the masseuse giving a "special" to her customer for a thousand Baht would be stringently enforced. If so, this would be a good alternative during mid-day to the bars on Soi 6 and to the dedicated boom-boom places on Soi Honey such as Paradise Massage and Up To You Massage, both of which I have already sampled and reviewed.

Does anybody have any experience with these ostensibly legit massage places that may (or may not) offer extras during daytime?The places you name, do offer extras, I know because I have tried (most of the ones between Central Festival and Central Road) personally.

Don't know.

[Member #4591]

Incorrect. It is against the rules to discuss procurement or partaking. It is not against the rules to warn someone to beware. The same as there is an entire thread on how to spot a ladyboy. It does not discuss how to go about getting them or what posters have done with them."Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that refers to any person (s) under the age of 18 years. Any person violating this policy will banned immediately. ".

This is right from the posting guidelines of ISG and is worded completely different than what you just said.

[Mbsl65]

Police in Pattaya do have several roadblocks and they do stop mostly foreigners regardless of color and age. They issue tickets for no reason. Matter of fact there are some foreigners among them and they are also part of the scam. If you don't want to spend your time in the police station to pay the fine and try to recover your documents, avoid renting vehicles in Pattaya. Fines are about 400 bath. Not a big deal but waiting to recover your documents is a nuisance.

My story, in two days I received two tickets. One for they did not like my AAA International license, even it was all current and legitimate with the right endorsements and second one was for stoping for few seconds at a no parking zone. For both tickets, I had to wait around 2 hours each times.

[Josh Dales]

I noticed that there are quite a few massage shops that are open during daytime on Second Road between Central Festival and Central Pattaya Road, on the beach side of Second Road. They have girls hanging outside, some of whom are pretty. They have suggestive names such as Joy Massage or Charming Massage. One of them, Top House Massage, also offers rooms for rent, which suspiciously sounds like a short-time motel.

I assume these are originally legit places, but this being Pattaya, I cannot think that rules against the masseuse giving a "special" to her customer for a thousand Baht would be stringently enforced. If so, this would be a good alternative during mid-day to the bars on Soi 6 and to the dedicated boom-boom places on Soi Honey such as Paradise Massage and Up To You Massage, both of which I have already sampled and reviewed.

Does anybody have any experience with these ostensibly legit massage places that may (or may not) offer extras during daytime?Second try to upload reply.

Yes, I have tried most of those shops between central festival and central road. And they do offer extras, but as far as I remember, the separate massage rooms that are very small. (Mostly a massagebench squeezed into a tiny room).

I have also had several takeouts of girls from different massage shops at closing time (normally around midnight / 01 am). The benefits of this is, No Barfine, no ladydrinks, a sober girl, and no earlier ST customers that day. What's included is negotiated with the lady you getting massage from.

My ST rates with these ladies have been between 1000 and 2000 bath.

Note that as these massage places are not massage houses like Rasputin / Honey massage / other, the success to take out a girl, is depending on your behavior, and liking of the girl (being sober, smell good, and being nice is a good start).

If you want to drink a little, and still be able to score in a massage shop, even in daytime, head down to Soi honey, from second road. The massage places there offer full sex on location. Sometimes with just a thin curtain between your floor mattress, and the customer on the next mattress, next to you.

This is not for everybody, as you can hear every little moaning and every sound, just on the other side of the silk thin curtain. As well as they can hear you.

For a regular good massage (no extras) , head to the shops close to the dolphin circulation point, on second road.

Good luck, JD.

[Mr Enternational]

"Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that refers to any person (s) under the age of 18 years. Any person violating this policy will banned immediately. ".

This is right from the posting guidelines of ISG and is worded completely different than what you just said.You are telling part of the story. The title of that rule says: No Discussion of Sex with Minors: as I properly stated. The article that I posted does not discuss that, but discusses a bar being busted for offering that. There are other articles throughout ISG (David33 in Peru and Colombia Jake who killed himself in prison the other day) about members being busted for offering minors. Again, these articles and discussions are not a violation.

I also stated that there is a thread on spotting ladyboys although there is a rule:

No Discussion about Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males:

A reasonable mind can discern that the rules are meant to cover reports where a person talks about procurement or sexual acts and not about the posting of a news article warning other readers to beware.

If I posted a report saying to watch out for the ladyboys on Beach Road; they will asault you and try to rob you this would obviously not be a violation of the rules. If I posted a report of acts that a friend had done with one then that would be a violation of the rules.

[LittleBigMan]

Same story here. I normally don't drink but can do without the hassle of the police checks, by now I know where they stand. On leaving W. S. Drive up on the side street (saisong 16) and avoid major crossings. To get on the darkside avoid driving north by the railroad, they do checks there and on the Suk. 53 crossing. Better drive up central to Suk south, if on a bike there is a "special" U-turn that you can make after 200 m, just look other bikers doing the same. Time ago they had big stops on Suk going south by the police station with pitiful tourist police doing the screening on foreigners for them, however that would be a day-only money rising operation. I'm so glad I didn't took a S. T room with the crazy girl mentioned before either!Thanks for the tip. I like you know if not all the check points in Pattaya especially in town. These days it seems they are already tired on sitting under the tents doing nothing. Since returning it looks like majority are abandon? I usually do not take the main routes but small Soi's to get to Sukhumvit. But the last few times I was caught off guard they were set up in these small and dark Soi's. One of my regular routes going home is usually through the Love Inn, Soi towards Soi Batman. I got caught off guard one night there too. The night before New Year Eve, I got all the way to Sukhumvit cut towards the opening right before the big police station and they were all set up pulling people over. I usually cut into the small Soi, runs through to the railroad tracks Soi Khao Noi, got stop there too.

The opening you refer to seems to be close during the evening now. I've used it during the day but it isn't open all the time.

[Old New Guy]

"Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that refers to any person (s) under the age of 18 years. Any person violating this policy will banned immediately. ".
This is right from the posting guidelines of ISG and is worded completely different than what you just said.Mod in training? Drop it. You have been told already what is what, no need to further quibble.

[Old New Guy]

Police in Pattaya do have several roadblocks and they do stop mostly foreigners regardless of color and age. They issue tickets for no reason. Matter of fact there are some foreigners among them and they are also part of the scam. If you don't want to spend your time in the police station to pay the fine and try to recover your documents, avoid renting vehicles in Pattaya. Fines are about 400 bath. Not a big deal but waiting to recover your documents is a nuisance. My story, in two days I received two tickets. One for they did not like my AAA International license, even it was all current and legitimate with the right endorsements and second one was for stoping for few seconds at a no parking zone. For both tickets, I had to wait around 2 hours each times.So it is getting worse. At least in the past the tickets which I received were technically valid. BTW Thailand does not require an international DL as long the domestic one is in English. Yes there are some POS foreigners helping them just to keep their badge and feel important. In the past I had left an expired DL with them only to find that with an unpaid ticket one can't renew the yearly registration, meaning that I couldn't sell the bike. I had to pay up after all. LBM, I'm talking about the cut going north immediately after central, it is still open as I write. It just saves 5 minutes at night.

Enough for BS tickets talk, here's what I've found during this trip. Kinnaree has one stunner and an half, the rest is regular bar staffing. Remodeled Lucifer is almost OK, waiters are less pushy for drinks than before, girls appear to be less stuck up than at I-bar, which was and remain a place mostly for youngsters. I-disco is, I'd say mostly wasted time. If you're young and / or OK with spending, hit I-bar early for the 5% top FLs. However the usual disco BS keeps going, last night at 4 am a sexy girl told me that was willing to leave at 5. I said OK! would see her then, and just moved on, in hindsight I should have stuck to her fine ass for 50 mins, then walk out with any other lady with a big smile. I also visit Marine for kicks and the place is great for older guys, but the quality is poor as always, I was lucky to pull a cutie and sweet one the 1st night, but she thinks her services are metered 1 K a pop so I wouldn't know what to do even if I see her again.

[Member #4591]

How's Skyfall? Does anyone have a report from there? I've seen some of the ladies on YouTube and they look good.

[LittleBigMan]

How's Skyfall? Does anyone have a report from there? I've seen some of the ladies on YouTube and they look good.Skyfall, I go into from time to time. They have nice girls standing outside. The rotate them from the inside when they aren't dancing. The setup is a large narrow room with stages. If you don't sit in the middle it is hard to see both lineup on the stages. Basically got to take your drink and move.

To me it is basically a smaller version of Sensation, not sure but I think the BF is 1500 drops after midnight. Not one of my favorites due to lack of nudity or none at all which is the majority of the time but they do have a nice lineup. The girls ask Bacarra prices so if that isn't your budget got to be patient.

[LittleBigMan]

Old New Guy.

When you talk about Central, are you referring to Pattaya Klang where FoodLand is located? At the top is block off right, you got to turn left and merge into Sukhumvit. The opening you refer to is that right where Soi Siam Country. Nam Chai. Otherside Index? If that is the spot it was close the other night and yesterday morning the cement cylinder was moved so one can barely get by?

[Old New Guy]

When you talk about Central, are you referring to Pattaya Klang where FoodLand is located? At the top is block off right, you got to turn left and merge into Sukhumvit. The opening you refer to is that right where Soi Siam Country. Nam Chai. Otherside Index? If that is the spot it was close the other night and yesterday morning the cement cylinder was moved so one can barely get by?PM sent. After all that's illegal stuff LOL.

[Crocodilexp]

The information on a "successful" bust is a good information preventing or warning board members to patronise a bar where CodeWord903 girls might be available.

The problem with such announcements is that while most people might take it as a warning, the perverts will read it as an invitation / advertisement to check out that particular bar, cluster of bars or general area.

IMHO, it would be best if that entire topic were entirely off-limits. If a girl appears questionable, either avoid altogether or ask for ID. That's all a careful punter needs to do, and now that Thai IDs have western dates on them, it's not hard. More specific warnings are entirely redundant.

[Smoothy]

If a girl appears questionable, either avoid altogether or ask for ID.Can you understand those Thai ID cards? I can't. They dont even use our same calendar. Hell, I can't even tell if it says they are male or female on those IDs.

[BionicMan]

A reasonable mind can discern that the rules are meant to cover reports where a person talks about procurement or sexual acts and not about the posting of a news article warning other readers to beware.

If I posted a report saying to watch out for the ladyboys on Beach Road; they will asault you and try to rob you this would obviously not be a violation of the rules. If I posted a report of acts that a friend had done with one then that would be a violation of the rules.Spot on! I think it was all clear to everybody.

[Banana Boi]

How's Skyfall? Does anyone have a report from there? I've seen some of the ladies on YouTube and they look good.My last visit was about a month ago. Imo average lineup most nights. I liken it to what's up. Decent girls but I fall asleep in those clubs since they aren't fun.

Don't let YouTube videos be a deciding factor on where to go. Many of the clubs with the best girls like baccara, Sensations, Fahrenheit don't have hot girls standing outside.

[Eric Swiss]

Second try to upload reply.

Yes, I have tried most of those shops between central festival and central road. And they do offer extras, but as far as I remember, the separate massage rooms that are very small. (Mostly a massagebench squeezed into a tiny room).

I have also had several takeouts of girls from different massage shops at closing time (normally around midnight / 01 am). The benefits of this is, No Barfine, no ladydrinks, a sober girl, and no earlier ST customers that day. What's included is negotiated with the lady you getting massage from.

My ST rates with these ladies have been between 1000 and 2000 bath.

Note that as these massage places are not massage houses like Rasputin / Honey massage / other, the success to take out a girl, is depending on your behavior, and liking of the girl (being sober, smell good, and being nice is a good start).

If you want to drink a little, and still be able to score in a massage shop, even in daytime, head down to Soi honey, from second road. The massage places there offer full sex on location. Sometimes with just a thin curtain between your floor mattress, and the customer on the next mattress, next to you.

This is not for everybody, as you can hear every little moaning and every sound, just on the other side of the silk thin curtain. As well as they can hear you.

For a regular good massage (no extras) , head to the shops close to the dolphin circulation point, on second road.

Good luck, JD.Thank you for giving us the low-down on the massage shops between Central Festival and Central Pattaya Road, JD. I am glad I can get a special there! Do you recall if the separation between rooms is hard wall going up to the ceiling, or flimsy curtain like Soi Honey? I wouldn't mind a minimum of privacy.

[Adrena]

I wrote a post about 78 pages back. I want to re-post it with some additional info for the new bros who won't read back further than five pages and assume they have Pattaya figured out.

This is for complete beginners, so older members might think my observations are childish, because older members have been doing it for so long.

I won't give play by plays of my experiences unless it helps solidify my points. As always, older members are always welcome to chime in with their observations.

Another few notes, I'll be in Pattaya Jan. 18th until Feb. 1. I'm excited about this trip since it'll be my longest one to date!

I was 31 years old when I first went in 2015. I am a 6'2" (188 cm) 218 pound (99 kg) white American male. I have abs, an outgoing personality, and can bench more than my weight for reps. I can get girls easily in every country I've visited. I'm not bragging, I only included this info because I want to emphasize that I paid the exact same for the girls as every other member of this board. Looks do not matter! The girls want your wallet, not your abs. If I walked into a gogo and didn't buy LD (lady drinks) they would ignore me just as quickly as they would ignore an 80 year old fat ass. However, I can recall several occasions where pot-bellied men started throwing cash around without question. They were much more popular than me. Always remember the motto; "cash is king".

I lurked on this board for about six months before my first trip and back-read reports for over 100 pages. I strongly suggest each monger do the same before they visit Pattaya. (but I know most of you won't).

Here are my tips that you should absolutely follow:

1. You should be able to quote price ranges for any service within each part of town at any given time of the day / week / year. You'll learn these prices from reading the last 100 pages of this forum. Don't be lazy, just do it! If you can't name at least three Soi 6 bars, or the average price of a FL on BR at 6 am, then you haven't read enough.

2. You should understand this is not your country or culture! People here act differently; don't expect them to change for you simply because you are unable to change for them. (which leads to my next tip).

3. Keep your eyes open. When you enter any place, hotels, restaurants, go-go's, it doesn't matter, look around and pay attention to what other people are doing. If you see a monger groping a girl and the girl is laughing, you are allowed to do the same. If you see mongers sitting on their hands, you better do the same until you see otherwise. Also, keep in mind that some people can do things others cannot. Indians get treated differently than Japanese, that's just the way it is. Know where you fit in. You'll have plenty of fun regardless of your background.

4. Plan on using at least 6,000 baht a day. Don't think you can get by with less on your first trip. Being tight with your wallet will ruin your holiday and leave a sour taste in your mouth. Don't try to argue on this one. If you can't bring at least 6,000 a day, don't go. After your first trip, you can plan on how much to bring, but first time just do as I say! That 6,000 does not include hotel fare either, you cheap bastard. Seasoned Pattaya mongers spend a lot less because they already know what works for them. There is also a lot of debate about this number from seasoned guys.

5. Have a game plan before you leave your hotel each morning. You don't have to plan every minute but at least know what part of town you want to visit. Thailand is hot, you don't want to be standing in the sun trying to decide where to go.

6. Don't try to do everything in one day. I know it's your holiday but don't go overboard. I tried to visit LK Metro, Soi 6, WS, and go shopping all on my first day. It led to me feeling hurried and stressed. I spent more time walking than I did enjoying my holiday. I realized that aiming for two destinations a day is a lot better. Soi 6 in the afternoon then WS at night worked beautifully for me. You can mix and match destinations.

7. Learn to love the baht buses. I walked everywhere the first two days; it was awful! I was staying near WS and I walked to Soi 6 and back several times. It was a big mistake. I eventually hopped on a baht bus, and everything was a lot easier after that revelation.

8. Lower your standards for what you need in a hotel. Like tip 2 suggests, don't expect things to be like back home. Do you really need to stay at a 5-star hotel? If the same answer is yes, go ahead and spend a ton of money. You should make a list of the things you absolutely need in a hotel. My list was short: bed, toilet, near WS. I found a hotel with average ratings which was cheap. Turns out the hotel was freaking great! It was worth way more than the cost. I'll be staying there again.

9. Don't be shy! This is a rookie mistake I made. I tried being a gentleman and it made my trip less enjoyable. If you want a girl, go for it! Approach her, talk with her.

10. Just because you aren't shy doesn't mean you have a pass to be rude. Be the man with a smile, not the man with fist. If something frustrates you, remember this is your holiday. Let it go!

11. Relax! You will be overwhelmed your first time in Pattaya. You will get a flood of weird emotions. When that happens, find a relaxing place to reset and reassess your reasons for the visit. You read all these reports of men who land 11 girls in 6 days and you feel the need to do the same. The pressure can be bigger than you realized. Don't try to be that guy on your first trip. Be the guy laughing happily, not the dehydrated one looking to refill fluids. If you see a girl who gets you going, have fun! If you are tired from the previous girl, don't feel like you have to get another just to keep up with studs on this board. They've been here several times. They've been training for the marathon. You're still just a sprinter. Some of the guys in this forum are freaks of nature. Even with pills, I can't keep up with their numbers.

12. Try eating at different places for each meal. This one is a little more personal, but I feel the need to say it since I love experiencing new things. Don't go to the same place over and over. Also, be wary of seafood if it's been sitting outside all day.

IllusionHeart added these:

13. If you like a girl at a bar or gogo then barfine her or close the deal for ST or LT whichever you may like. Chances are that she will probably not be there if you come back for her after hopping few more places. There are tons of beautiful girls to meet everyone's taste and the search for the perfect one sometimes proves endless or tiresome. Hence as they say, "a bird in hand is better than 2 in the Bush. " Spend time enjoying the company of a girl rather then searching for the most beautiful girl around.

14. Girls are available around the clock in Pattaya. Do research for places if you have morning or day time preferences and you can roll 24 x 7 if you have the urge and stamina.

15. Do some reading on Ladyboys especially if you are not into them on how to identify and avoid as you can get a surprise in your room if haven't asked them before about their gender.

And the forum previously added this advice.

16. Know your drinking limit. If you get angry after seven beers, stop drinking at six. Your holiday will be quickly ruined if you make a drunken mistake. You don't want to start a fight in Thailand, and you don't want to be passed out drunk in the streets.

17. Know when to let stuff go. If the sign says "80 baht beer" but they charge me 90, I'll just let it go. 10 baht isn't worth fighting for. I once saw a monger angrily yell at two bartenders in the early afternoon because he was given a San Miguel Light instead of a regular San Miguel. I couldn't believe it! Don't be that guy. 1000 baht might be worth a disagreement, but 10 baht isn't.

18. Don't immediately get defensive when a girl quotes you a high price. If a BR FL asks for 1500, don't automatically think she trying to scam you out of your money. She's just trying to get what she can; don't take it as a personal offense because she didn't open with 800 or less. It is okay to negotiate, but it isn't okay to believe she hates you because that's what she asked for. Some guys take bargaining personal, please don't.

19. You'll see tons of posts in this forum arguing about money or complaining about Pattaya not being as great as it was; take those posts with a grain of salt. Many of them are bitter vets, or jealous haters. If you're new, you'll have the time of your life!

20. Maintain a high energy attitude! Dress hip / cool, act hip, show energy vs lethargy, and come across as a fun guy. Girls (particularly the younger ones) don't want just a boring guy. And more so, if like me, you stick with the under (say) 28. Haven123 added this one.

21. Never ever fall in love with a professional or non-professional girl. For me it is unbelievable how many Thai girls have 3, 5 or more different foreign friends at the same time who support "her girl" with money every month and every one of these guys thinks, that he is her only friend. Added by Michager.

As always, older members are encouraged to add to this list. Your advice is more helpful than you may realize. I'll continue to add to this list and post an updated one in six months or so.

[NickMehta]

Spent 3 days in Pattaya with a few friends. Being a Pattaya virgin, this forum was the go-to source for information. Thanking everyone for all the suggestions and updates you post here. Hopefully, this will help some other first timers as well. This is my first trip log, in fact my very first post here; so, please go easy on the feedback.

Day 1.

Flying into Bangkok and cab ride to Pattaya was quite painless. We were flying red-eye, so, everyone had a chance to grab some shut eye in the 90 minutes it took us to get there. We checked into the Amari Gardens which is at the other end of beach road. Amari Gardens has sibling Amari Towers which is a lot more modern and overlooks BR. Lots of families here, and we spotted some corporate off-site events too. None of us brought any girls back to the rooms, but I have spotted some girls walking out early morning. Unfortunately, can't provide any pointers on the joiners fee, if any.

Come early evening, we grabbed the tuktuk on BR and headed over to Walking Street. Seemed to be warming up at 5:30 in the evening, with lots of people milling around, and some signboard aglow. We realized we're way too early, so decided to see some of the famous massage parlors instead. Back to the hotel (for the Wifi. LOL), and then we found ourselves in Sabai Room. My first fishbowl experience, and it was a bit strange, TBH. Picking from a menu has a whole new meaning now As expected Red, Blue and White, priced at 2 k, 2.5 k and 3 k. We looked around, and the girls were inviting to say the least. But then, someone decided that we should scout other places too.

Off we went to PP Massage, which I learnt is the favorite for Indians. In fact, papa san spoke very colorful Hindi too! He quoted identical prices (2,2.5,3) and we were in a splendid mood by this time. We each picked a girl of our choice, paid and headed over to the room.

I don't remember being bathed, ever. And the soapy massage was an experience into itself. I had picked Ann (though she pronounced as 'Ain' who looked busty in the fishbowl. When she stripped down to nothing in the room, I discovered the power of the push up bra, and that Thai women look very young even after children (C-Sec scar was evident). Nevertheless, I was super excited and looking forward to the experience. The massage was fantastic, and Ann made it a point to massage my cock aggressively, probably hoping I'd cum right away (she told me later I was too big for her). After a wash off, we headed to the bed, starting with WOT, then mish and doggy. She was extremely tight, and I had trouble getting into her in mish position. Anyway, had a great time, but couldn't cum (. Long story). She suddenly said something and pointed to her wrist, indicating that my 90 minutes were up.

Washed off again in the bath, and she escorted me to the lobby. I discovered that she'd short changed me 15 minutes! Oh well. Maybe I was causing her some pain. Anyway, I had a decent first experience.

Headed of with friends to WS, which was abuzz by now. Fantastic environment and energy! We got into Insomnia for a few drinks and found plenty a few hot looking women there. Didn't pick any up, since we were kinda spent.

Unfortunately, a few places refused us entry. Taboo, Mixx and another (name skips my mind). Guess the memo on the Indians got to them.

All in all, a great first day! Day 2 coming soon!

Cheerz!

[Josh Dales]

Thank you for giving us the low-down on the massage shops between Central Festival and Central Pattaya Road, JD. I am glad I can get a special there! Do you recall if the separation between rooms is hard wall going up to the ceiling, or flimsy curtain like Soi Honey? I wouldn't mind a minimum of privacy.A few of the places only have foot massage and nothing else, but some have internal rooms. I can recall one of the places there that has 3 small back-rooms with "folding door" , a type of cheap wood / plastic material drag-curtain doors.

They do not go all the way to the roof, so I would only call it semi privacy.

Another one has benches up the stairs from the massage shop, with curtains between the benches, but if you are the only visitor upstairs, then you are "in private", and you will hear any other customer coming up the stairs long before they enter the room.

Another alternative is the massage places close to walking street, on the corner of second road, where the bath buses start their trip northbound towards the dolphin turnabout.

I really have tried a lot of massage places, and instead of looking for P4P girls, an alternative is to walk from place to place, looking for the good looking ones, and try to build a connection.

Walking street massage places (close to the southern end of walking street) never got me anything. To many tourists, no privacy.

Usually the tactics of getting a HJ first time, is the icebreaker that makes it possible to get her back to your hotel the next time you visit, if you made a good impression, and she feels safe with you.

Hope it helps, and good hunting. JD.

[Single Axis]

Hi all,

Will be in Pattaya during the weekend of Feb-2nd for 4 days only.

This will be my 5th visit to Pattaya, and I look forward to it.

Anyone interested to have drinks / food / girls together, please PM.

Thanks,

M.

[Kumbu]

Spent 3 days in Pattaya with a few friends. Being a Pattaya virgin, this forum was the go-to source for information. Thanking everyone for all the suggestions and updates you post here. Hopefully, this will help some other first timers as well. This is my first trip log, in fact my very first post here; so, please go easy on the feedback.Nice report Nick, keep them coming.

[Haven123]

So, not much has changed in the last 8 months, that I can tell. (but please note, I have not entered a single GO GO and I have not been to Kinnaree (on this trip)) , or places like that either on this trip (as yet).

1. I've been to Soi 6 places and Soi 7 Shooters. Checked out LK Metro area, Soi Buakhao, and several beer bar areas off of 2nd Road. As is normal and my MO, I've been to the discos a lot. But usually only very late around 2 am. I stay disciplined as far planning my sleep, some exercises and enjoying Thai food, which I love.

2. Prices: As far as I can tell, no change in prices anywhere in Soi 6 or at the discos. Max I was quoted (and I usually don't ask so my sample set is small on this trip) was initial of 2,500, which ends up in 2000 max, LT. I like decent face, non pros, under 28 and good attitude. I never do ST, so my gating question to myself always is, " can I stand having this chick next to me for up to 24 hours " and maybe 3-4 days if I like really her. Soi 6 no change in prices, as it is set by the owner operator.

3. Results: In about 8 days (after initial jet lag day and almost 2 wasted days punctuated with incessant rain, plus another 2 days due to a major auto accident with family member back home (putting a huge damper on my state of mind)) , I have done very, very poorly.

Only 2 girls I liked, 2 -3 girls where I was too late and did not strike when the iron was hot (always my problem in the initial few days, since I am frigging optimist). So, I grade myself a 3 on a 1-10 scale, in terms of success. Of the 2 new girls, one drinks too much and the other wants me to hang with 2 of her older friends (she is 24) and I don't want to prick up the tab for that. Yeah, so many things have to fall in line for me, since I don't like ST. And, I avoid pros. Yes, I do distinguish between pros, semi pros, new pros and non pros. Your opinion and YMMV on this, obviously. But, I am really enjoying my time at the discos until 6 am...LOL.

4. The trip started off poorly as I was expecting to hook up with 2 of my favs from my last trip. A 20 yr old massage girl, who now has a regular job and keeps telling me she is too busy with work (I think either a boyfriend or legit work. Who knows? Does not matter, that's gone now! ).Huge bummer for me!

The other left after the Kings death, and went back home since it seems about 4-6 weeks of mourning put a real damper. And she is real non pro. She is back in Isaan, but wants to come stay with me. I laughed and put it off, since I like some days off alone. After 2-4 days with a girl. But, now she is saying I can just tell her to go back home whenever I want, LOL. She is too frickin nice! And, for me that's a problem. But, I am gonna have her come down next week, LOL.

5. Soi 6 girls are making a lot of money. Many over 50,000 baht a month. Easy to understand as guys find that to be one of the best places. So yes, it is demand driven. Also, one British owner is running a great organization with Brit managers and has several under his belt. But, I fear for his safety as he posts stuff publicly about his connections with politicians and I think police too. Guy has a Thai wife, but you never know. Anyway, Toy Box and Night Wish seem good for my taste.

6. Facebook: This is becoming a monster IMO. Many Soi 6 and Go Go girls very active and I have been monitoring about 2 dozen girls for a month, for my pre-trip intelligence and plain curiosity. All these girls now are looking for love (boyfriend, husband whatever and they are deluding themselves IMO). But, they live in their own cocoons, whether it be among their Soi 6 friends, Go Go friends or whatever and they are all IMO together perpetuating their delusion. And, with the money, they are all drinking way too much , getting stressed out, come to the discos to relax , party more, and then after a month of that end up for something or other ( stress or don't know what else ) at the hospital. Crazy stuff ...this stress related hospital visits....I am shocked by extent of this...but if you think about it, it's easy to understand ( due to only 3 days off a month) long hours, drinking and more drinking.

So, they are all chasing their LT farang or sponsor option. At least 2/3 have a kid back home and financial support they are providing, adding to the stress and the boozy lifestyle of long, long hours and highly structured work environments at Soi 6 or at the Go- Go's.

After all, they are making good money, are young, want to have their cake and eat it too. Most have many tattoos and that is their call sign (I love girls with tattoos back home and in Latin America, but not here). For me, Facebook seems to be destroying Pattaya options, for a guy like me. Girls on these groups, feeding each other info, prices, how to get a sponsor, how to get guys ' vested' and other strategies. Many girls blindly follow and many are not doing well due to high expectations. This, plus Japanese and newbies, short stay guys are making things in Pattaya very difficult for a guy like me. High expectations by girls will be the problem in months and years to come. I think Latin America is better for me, by far. Girls are genuinely sweeter and have realistic expectations are are not on the hunt for a farang husband.

7. I have yet to try out BR (which is a turn off for me) but I will give it a look tonight. I think this along with Soi 6 is among the best options for the non Go- Go crowd (I have nothing against Go- Go 's but I abhor sitting and ogling at girls and drinking at those places. I never had to in most places around the world. Dating web sites are 90 PC of bread and butter in Latin Countries, but it does not work for me here (I am no longer a young or even youngish guy for the non pro Thai girls! LOL).

8. Kinnaree should work for those who like on premises point and shoot. Shooters on Soi 7 seems worthwhile, but maybe 3-4 good ones.

9. Clubs: I am begining to like Lucifers. But talent level small and lower quality than Ibar / Insomnia. Wait staff push you to buy drinks.

10. Other: many more African girls than I saw on last trip. I expect this trend may increase, but they are not successful. Too many Russians and Turkish at the Discos and Central Festival. Need to go spend more time at Area 51 near Soi Buakhao and LK metro, 2-3 decent girls. Also, saw one beer bar, at around the intersection on Soi LK Metro and Soi Buakhao where the girls seemed surprisingly decent looking. Will go back and confirm and post name in the next several days.

11. OT : The brunch buffet with some BBQ at Cafe Pascal ( until 2 pm LOL ) at 240 baht very good... but no Thai or Asian food.

[Pahllus Maximus]

Made it on the bus fro Ekammia in Bangkok, with the customary chaos, random boarding and typical 2 hour late arrival of the scheduled coach. 120 baht. My impressions of Pattaya is one of a heavily built up city on the coast infested with heavy traffic and tourists from everywhere. Pretty polluted as well, and not as compact as Bangkok and the BTS skytrain. A lot of sad rip-off prices for atrocious faux western food (what is the point being here and not eat Asian) and people trying to sell you shit, sunglasses, massage, ping-pong show etc etc. It is also very noisy with neon everywhere and people trying to pull you in. Calling it a "beach" "town" is bullshit. It is a heavily built up urban slum. Compared to Hawaii or Cost Rica or the Dalmatian coast, it is a parody of a beach. The food is not very good, heavy use of industrial meat farming coupled with poor hygiene and refrigeration, a special problem for chicken and poultry. One of the local doctors I know tells me severe food poisoning is common along with drunks falling over or out of trucks.

Eventually I made it to a soi (not sure which one, but off walking street) leading to 2nd road which was fun with overtones of the Cantina bar scene in Star Wars with a genuine fat Jabba the Hut guy (chin goes direct to chest, no neck) knocking back beers and drooling, but popular with the girls as he freely dispensed money and lady drinks. Two uptight horrified looking menopausal western cows in the bar whilst a girl stuck ice in her pussy and popped it in a punters drink. Another guy was licking out a girl at the bar and then fucked her on the stool about 30 minutes later. Had a few beers. The girls dance with no panties. After a while it got boring, somehow too frontal, nothing left to the imagination or delicious intrigue. Headed off to Honey's on No. 2 Road, attractive chick (#479 or something) was mechanical and cold, claimed not to have a second condom for shot No. 2.

This place is really full on, literally thousands of girls in the beach road plying their pussies and the trail of tampax and tissues. Yet we cannot resist them.

In the day light, Pattaya looks like a slum. The beach is crowded with hawkers and stalls, polluted with way too many power boats and cruddy. Yeah great for pussy, but not much else in nicer digs. On that note, I checked out several hotels from 4 k baht to 800 baht. All have rock hard mattresses and flimsy pillows. Not the best for quality sleep to recharge the pipes for the next day of action.

I think German FKK are way better. 50 Euros = 1890 baht at today's rate, though you can get a short time girl here for about 1000 baht.

[Old New Guy]

Another few notes, I'll be in Pattaya Jan. 18th until Feb. 1. I'm excited about this trip since it'll be my longest one to date!

I was 31 years old when I first went in 2015. I am a 6'2" (188 cm) 218 pound (99 kg) white American male. I have abs, an outgoing personality, and can bench more than my weight for reps. I can get girls easily in every country I've visited. I'm not bragging, I only included this info because I want to emphasize that I paid the exact same for the girls as every other member of this board. Looks do not matter! The girls want your wallet, not your abs. If I walked into a gogo and didn't buy LD (lady drinks) they would ignore me just as quickly as they would ignore an 80 year old fat ass. However, I can recall several occasions where pot-bellied men started throwing cash around without question. They were much more popular than me. Always remember the motto; "cash is king".It may seem so you, but to top FLs, look and age DO matter. Also in some "high" brothels or go-go, some girls refuse service (have period, go back home tomorrow, or just rudeness) to old (which in Asia is 40 and more) guys. I'll happily bet a drink at I-bar with you to prove my point. And it's easy too see, look at the real stunners, with who they go hand-in-hand? 25-35 is the gold age for a truly demanding guy here.

Pahllus Maximum and Haven123: of course what your write is true. Good reports.

[Banana Boi]

I think German FKK are way better. 50 Euros = 1890 baht at today's rate, though you can get a short time girl here for about 1000 baht.ST at FKK is 30 minutes vs 1 hour or more from a soi 6 or Kinnaree girl. You also have to pay 60-80 euro entry for a FKK. For the same price you would need to compare fkk vs a high end gogo girl from walking street.

Not going to deny that a top FKK girl is comparable to a top gogo girl (ie. Way better looking than soi 6) but the passion just isn't the same from a Romanian vs a Thai girl.

BTW thank you for your review. Try avoiding the mechanical tourist soapies like honey 1. They are tempting but not if you want service.

[Ableyone]

Two uptight horrified looking menopausal western cows in the bar whilst a girl stuck ice in her pussy and popped it in a punters drink. Another guy was licking out a girl at the bar and then fucked her on the stool about 30 minutes later.I didn't see anything like that when I was there; tbh I am beginning to feel a little bit short changed about my visit.

[Pahllus Maximus]

Pattaya strangely attracts families, I don't understand why. The touristy Thai restaurants change the same as in the States or Europe (250 baht per dish = USD 7. 00) , a semi-decent cappuccino is 80 baht (USD 2. 26), and beers about 60 baht (USD 1. 70) and pussy at about 1000 baht s / t (USD28.00) plus perhaps a room and bar fine (300 baht each or USD 8. 50). Dentistry is cheap, 700 baht for a good scale and clean (USD 19.79).

There are also many condos for sale, about 2-6 m baht depending on size and location (USD 56,600 to 170,000), but the beach is crap. So, my guess is that it attracts Russians on a budget who think the sun and heat and somewhat exotic people is a great deal. Cheap charlies who stay in 1000 baht per night hotels may also see this as value, providing that ambience plays no role in banging girls. Maybe I am getting old, but it is nice to have some normal social cues and chill factor. It is also a haven for guys from the USA that is sex prison, they just took backpage offline on the theory that all the girls are either [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) or being trafficked. This is simply propaganda, the truth is that fat western women are outraged we can just buy the milk and not the cow and this ties in with a generally sanctimonious lectures that come downs to protecting their pussy franchise. Sure there are abuses, but so too is working a female to death on $6 an wages with no prospect of improvement and crushing psychology of many of the corporate slave dens. Many jobs are dangerous, like process lines, slaughter houses etc. And what about the factories in Asia making consumer baubles at under $2 a day. The average Thai makes 9,000 baht a month ($USD 255) and work about 6 days a week 8-10 hours a day. They are lucky to save a 1000 baht a month. Somehow that crushing exploitation is OK, but sex is not. A lot of the bar girls are wholly rational wanting to add 20-30 k baht per month so they can get some capital and independence. Same in the USA.

So yeah, Pattaya is a shagging capital, but it is also pretty ugly and polluted. The hotel mattresses must be made in north Korea.

[WildHawk]

Pattaya strangely attracts families, I don't understand why. ...
So yeah, Pattaya is a shagging capital, but it is also pretty ugly and polluted. The hotel mattresses must be made in north Korea.I think we're all mystified about the attraction of Pattaya to the Russians and Chinese tour groups. I presume its proximity to BKK makes it easier. It truly is a shithole, and I wouldn't dip my toes into the water anywhere near the mainland, including Jomtien. I remember that I cried when I took in Pattaya after having cut short a visit to Phuket. It is that bad.

And I can't wait for my four solid days there I've booked in February -- after having been stuck in Sex Prison USA. The bit about the Western heifers is spot-on!

(I do appreciate the current intel on pricing from the Soi 6 devotees. I'll stroll for the down and dirty there, but Walking Street is my favorite. I've been RTTF, and presume the current rates there are about 3000 baht, with barfines edging into four figures. Anyone who knows the range -- suppose Baccara and that tier are the highest, but if somebody's got the low-down on the range, that'd be appreciated. Thanks!

[Mr Enternational]

The touristy Thai restaurants change the same as in the States or Europe (250 baht per dish = USD 7. 00) , a semi-decent cappuccino is 80 baht (USD 2. 26)That is why I normally eat Thai food at the hole in the wall in Soi Buakow. A plate of food runs me 60 to 80 baht. Also check out the drink carts and stands. You can get that cappuccino for 4x less. Remember restaurants have to pay rent and workers so their ambiance is going to cost you.

Many pictures of places around the world are photoshopped to lure tourists. I was showing a coworker the diffence between a random googled picture of the beach/water and a real one from my phone. If you have never been to a place like Aruba or Destin, Florida then Pattaya Beach suits you just fine. You can't miss what you never had. A man who has never had a ribeye is not going to complain about the bologna on his plate when he has gone without meat his entire life.

[Syzygies]

Pattaya strangely attracts families, I don't understand why. North Pattaya is supposed to be for the non mongering tourists, but I still don't see the attraction. Considered closer to Bangkok than many other options. Bang Saen, Cha Am, Rayong, are supposed to be suited for families. I also would rather travel much further to a really nice beach on one of the Islands.

We could also ask why Arab families are attracted to Soi 3 and Soi 5 of Sukhumwit Bangkok? What is the attraction? Perhaps the men are slipping out for some naughty stuff at night.

[Adrena]

What's up with the depressing views on this board?

Last time I was in Pattaya, the sunsets were just as beautiful as the pictures I see online. The girls felt just as good when I wrapped my arms around them.

I'm going to be writing reports for my upcoming trip, should I even bother posting them if people are going to complain about them?

[Eric Swiss]

I warmed up in a couple of go-go bars before making the round at Insomnia. Normally I find nothing and just head downstairs to the I-Bar, but this time some chick told me her friend liked me, so I started talking to the designated girl. Turns out her name was Mai. She had a nicely shaped body, think Tia Carrera minus 2 points. She asked 3000 short time, I brought her down to 2000 and off we went to a short-time hotel.

I was pretty tired and drunk, so I wasn't overly optimistic about the probability of her getting an erection and an ejaculation out of me, but she was really good. She gave me a very patient BBBJ. She proposed 69 but I declined. Who knows where this pussy has been? Then I fucked her missionary style and she really got into it. I don't think she came, but she was hot and flustered by my relentless punding. We both really got into it, to be honest. After a few positions, lasting quite a long time, I lay back and let her blow me again for the grand finale. By that time I was hard as a rock and she managed to squeeze the juice out of me.

All in all, a nice find. Watching her suck and fuck me on the ceiling mirror was a real turn-on, especially with the contrast between our skins (she is from Issaan). Another win for Insomnia / I-Bar, and for the philosophy of letting the girl pick me (rather than the other way around).

[Pahllus Maximus]

I rubbed my eyes: just before I came to Pattaya, I'm having a beer with a cutie (catch & release), and lo and behold, about a dozen top to bottom Ninja / burka women walking up Soi 4 towards Nana Plaza. How they reconcile the debauchery with their own stated practices and sexual suppression is curious. Maybe they are trying a new method to calm down their men from violence by BJ's and pole dancing and were on a study tour. Cold beer, getting laid left, right and centre and hanging certainly adds to a happy brotherhood amongst men from from my experience, and it seems universal. Peace through pussy! In ancient Greece, Lysistrata had the ladies go on a sex strike to end the Peloponnesian War. It was very successful. Perhaps I saw the start of something good, the end to strife by BJ's. Probably transplanting so gogo bars to the middle east with free services (much cheaper than troops etc) and the most sexually talented Thai girls would improve things. It is only a theory I made up over a beer, but maybe WSG could win the Nobel prize.

Heh heh.

[Haven123]

What's up with the depressing views on this board?

Last time I was in Pattaya, the sunsets were just as beautiful as the pictures I see online. The girls felt just as good when I wrapped my arms around them.

I'm going to be writing reports for my upcoming trip, should I even bother posting them if people are going to complain about them?Don't worry about it! Every now and then this happens. Because everything is relative. Pattaya surely requires a significant adjustment for any westerner arriving for the first time.

And people operate differently than you and I (I am going out on a limb here). Some want to save money or need to save some money and take the bus from BKK. I ask for and pay a bit extra for a minivan (1300 baht). New, all leather, with a tissue box and 2 bottles of water.

Some have a problem with the bed. I used to stay at the Dusit and Sheraton eons ago, but now I want to be right next to Central Festival since I am here for many weeks at a time. Some use hotels or want to be near WS or Soi 6 or LK metro. I stay at a really nice condo at VT 6 with a brand new Postpurepedic King bed and excellent quality ambiance with 25 floor balcony overlooking the sea, and pay extra for daily maid service. Many don't like this set up or location.

Some love Go Go's and I don't. Some don't like having to hunt in a crowded disco at 2 or 3 am, but I do.

I spend several weeks every year in Kaanapali in Maui, and so I have never ever set foot on the beach or felt the water here in Pattaya. Others like it.

I like and get a legit professional massage practically every day...others want the ones with a happy ending and do not want a regular massage.

I avoid what I think (this is purely in the eye of the beholder) is a lousy area, but others might like it.

So, the point I am making is that is all Relative. It's up to you!

Create your little mini-universe and stay within its confines and keep circling within it and hitting the places you like and avoiding the ones you don't. It only has to work for you. Not for anyone else.

[Syzygies]

What's up with the depressing views on this board?
Last time I was in Pattaya, the sunsets were just as beautiful as the pictures I see online. The girls felt just as good when I wrapped my arms around them.
I'm going to be writing reports for my upcoming trip, should I even bother posting them if people are going to complain about them?What is so depressing?

I would not be too concerned about Mr. Pahrlous Max's Sardonic humour. Who knows what he might be on? LOL Its also well known that Pattaya is not the top place for the beauty of nature, unless it is of the pussy variety.

We can't promise to like your reports in advance, however should be great if you post good honest reports about where you found the best hot girls. That is what Pattaya is about, right? And how to best enjoy Pattaya.

[Old New Guy]

Last time I was in Pattaya, the sunsets were just as beautiful as the pictures I see online.It is! Just like yesterday, an huge ball of high-contrast orange going down the hills. Never seen it like that and it was amazingly beautiful.

[Goferring]

I rubbed my eyes: just before I came to Pattaya, I'm having a beer with a cutie (catch & release), and lo and behold, about a dozen top to bottom Ninja / burka women walking up Soi 4 towards Nana Plaza. How they reconcile the debauchery with their own stated practices and sexual suppression is curious. Maybe they are trying a new method to calm down their men from violence by BJ's and pole dancing and were on a study tour. Cold beer, getting laid left, right and centre and hanging certainly adds to a happy brotherhood amongst men from from my experience, and it seems universal. Peace through pussy! In ancient Greece, Lysistrata had the ladies go on a sex strike to end the Peloponnesian War. It was very successful. Perhaps I saw the start of something good, the end to strife by BJ's. Probably transplanting so gogo bars to the middle east with free services (much cheaper than troops etc) and the most sexually talented Thai girls would improve things. It is only a theory I made up over a beer, but maybe WSG could win the Nobel prize.

Heh heh.Have you seen what is under those Burkas? Certainly not everyone but definitely a fair number of pornstar bodies keen to break loose once the chains are removed.

Saudi Airlines is also called Bikini Air for a reason. Many times a beekeeper gets on the plane but a Victoria Secret girl gets off.

Enjoy.

[Redfield10]

I wrote a post about 78 pages back. I want to re-post it with some additional info for the new bros who won't read back further than five pages and assume they have Pattaya figured out.

This is for complete beginners, so older members might think my observations are childish, because older members have been doing it for so long.

I won't give play by plays of my experiences unless it helps solidify my points. As always, older members are always welcome to chime in with their observations.

Another few notes, I'll be in Pattaya Jan. 18th until Feb. 1. I'm excited about this trip since it'll be my longest one to date!

I was 31 years old when I first went in 2015. I am a 6'2" (188 cm) 218 pound (99 kg) white American male. I have abs, an outgoing personality, and can bench more than my weight for reps. I can get girls easily in every country I've visited. I'm not bragging, I only included this info because I want to emphasize that I paid the exact same for the girls as every other member of this board. Looks do not matter! The girls want your wallet, not your abs. If I walked into a gogo and didn't buy LD (lady drinks) they would ignore me just as quickly as they would ignore an 80 year old fat ass. However, I can recall several occasions where pot-bellied men started throwing cash around without question. They were much more popular than me. Always remember the motto; "cash is king"...Nice newbie post!! LOL. For future reference, I would resist giving any real advice until I'd been here maybe 15 times or so. LOL. Glad you had a newbie good time though.

[Daddy07]

It is! Just like yesterday, an huge ball of high-contrast orange going down the hills. Never seen it like that and it was amazingly beautiful.You can thank the high concentration of air pollution in Pattaya.

[Pahllus Maximus]

The sunset you saw is pollution, specifically Rayleigh scattering of light hitting crud particles increased by the cosine of light on the horizon. Now what is nether depressing is last night. Found a very cute spinner with thick, vintage / retro glasses. After some vigorous bonking and several positions, blew with her raised on pillows, face down, but able to turn around for a kiss during the La petite mort. Baby, can she move those little hips! The best part was round two, BBJ and blew all over her face and spectacles (she looked hot with that innocent student look and her mouth full of cock) at just the right moment. She then gave me a massage, and suggested we have some noodles, which we did. Turns out she is only 19 and is on a study break, this is how she makes a few extra bucks. Got her number. Definitely a repeat. We should be able to get sponsored girlfriend visa for the USA where they can stay for 90 days or oral practice and language, and that chick definitely spoke the most international language. She also mentioned having a friend. Yahoooo!

An no, Syzergies, I'm not on anything, but perhaps lazy with my choice of selecting hotels with good mattresses. Should have spent the first morning doing the softness test and moved hotels. Anyway, the above conquest more than made up for it.

[Mombie75]

Being British I have a weather related question. The twice I have been to Pattaya both visits were in March, I am planning to go in October but I see it is the wettest month, anyone been in October offer any insight as to if it is rainy most days then maybe it is best to do another month?

Thanks.

[Old New Guy]

I'm very attracted to this FL that you can spot at the usual place like Red Car (although I think she only uses the toilet there), Lucifer, and Marine disco. About 25 yrs old, honey complexion with a beautiful exotic face, maybe 160cm, legs, waist and ass to die for. Appears uninterested and (strange detail) I've seen her hanging out with black girls. If anyone is able to give her what she deserves, I'd be delighted to hear about it.

[Vivek]

Hi friends,

I am 41/ m / Single / Indian who will be traveling in Pattaya in January End 2017 for about 7 days. Second visit. First visit was in March 2016. I am looking for a sweet, friendly and safe girl (age 20 to 30) who will stay with me for about 72 hours continuously like a wife. I will be staying in a good 3 star hotel with a swimming pool. Where can I find such a girl? My budget around 4500 Baht for 72 hours total or 1500 baht for 24 hours.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Vivek.

[Mr Enternational]

I am 41/ m / Single / Indian who will be traveling in Pattaya in January End 2017 for about 7 days. Second visit. First visit was in March 2016. I am looking for a sweet, friendly and safe girl (age 20 to 30) who will stay with me for about 72 hours continuously like a wife.Seriously dude. You have been to Pattaya yet you are asking where to find chicks. You are beyond help.

[BionicMan]

Seriously dude. You have been to Pattaya yet you are asking where to find chicks. You are beyond help.555 not only that.

He wants her to be with him like a wife for 72 hrs (what's that? A business plan? A metered rental?

When most of us escape to Thailand for at least few days to be away from the wife!

[FL Hawk]

Hi friends,

I am 41/ m / Single / Indian who will be traveling in Pattaya in January End 2017 for about 7 days. Second visit. First visit was in March 2016. I am looking for a sweet, friendly and safe girl (age 20 to 30) who will stay with me for about 72 hours continuously like a wife. I will be staying in a good 3 star hotel with a swimming pool. Where can I find such a girl? My budget around 4500 Baht for 72 hours total or 1500 baht for 24 hours.
Good luck! The only girls you might get for 1500 baht per day will be grannies or skanks. I mean, a Soi 6 girl for one hour will get 1000 baht, and a FL BR girl will be 800 for an hour. No way would any of those girls stay with you for a full 3 days and be your "wife" for a measly 4500 baht, which is about $40 per day! You might get a BR girl to spend the nights with you, but other than the skanks, they can most likely get 2 or 3 clients each day by working just a few hours, so why would they stay with you, working all day, and lose money?

If you want a wife experience, I would think you would need to develop a relationship with a girl in advance. Maybe join Thai Cupid and try to cultivate a relationship with someone before you go over, but be honorable and not tell a girl you are looking for a wife when what you really want is a hooker to stay with you for 3 days for cheap.

[Cool]

Good luck! The only girls you might get for 1500 baht per day will be grannies or skanks. I mean, a Soi 6 girl for one hour will get 1000 baht, and a FL BR girl will be 800 for an hour. No way would any of those girls stay with you for a full 3 days and be your "wife" for a measly 4500 baht, which is about $40 per day! You might get a BR girl to spend the nights with you, but other than the skanks, they can most likely get 2 or 3 clients each day by working just a few hours, so why would they stay with you, working all day, and lose money?

If you want a wife experience, I would think you would need to develop a relationship with a girl in advance. Maybe join Thai Cupid and try to cultivate a relationship with someone before you go over, but be honorable and not tell a girl you are looking for a wife when what you really want is a hooker to stay with you for 3 days for cheap.Possible for the Tall Athletic young blond guy in the Cap America or tall Justin Bieber looks. He states he is 40. So hopefully he looks younger than 40 to pull that off. A lot of guys would want to meet multiple girls in that short time span.

His trip is very short to pull that off and he would've needed to network on his previous trip.

[Vivek]

Don't Laugh. I have been in touch with a man in this forum who actually did same thing that I want in the same price about 6 months ago. Though he was little far from Pattaya. In a bar at Lamai beach at ko samui island. I was wondering if it was possible in Pattaya.

[SoloPlayer]

I just wanted to share me dilemma here getting Pattaya girls. First let me brief you about myself. (I know boring, please bare with me, thanks).

I'm about (7.5) lookwise M. E. Guy, with the age of 28, reach 5'10", weigh 160 lb, athletic with 6 packs and all the nice features. I'm also very open minded person, fluent in English, well-knowledgeable, and with high-intelligence compared to the average crowd. I find ladies to be wowed with the common knowledge I have (have been asked if I'm Dr, Engineer, etc).

I have been to many places such as USA for bachelor degree, and girls find me attractive (How I know? I get several second looks, and the compliments "handsome, cute. " have been told in several occasions). I also do not have problem getting Thais in M. E. Countries. In fact, every time I enter venue of Thai WGs, I get approached from the best good-looking WGs in that setting.

I also do not have issue with money as I make around $100 K a year, and I'm staying in Pattaya at property priced over 11,000 baht per night. I do not mind paying 6,000 baht for lady that I find attractive.

However, all the ladies that I find them attractive here will not give me the chance to present myself, just because of the fact that I look as Indian / Arab, even though I have light-tanned-whitish skin complexion. What is worse, is getting rejected from some venues here in W. S. Just because of my ethnicity (maybe young look? Even though I tip and spend more cash in these venues than most fellow white people.

In contrary to Thais working in M. E. Countries, over here I get looks from ladies who I won't take them even if I get paid to do it.

If I'm as (Arab / Indian look-like) guy with good credibilities is having a hard time getting ladies here, I wonder what my fellow others are doing. ? What am I missing?

If CA $H is really the X factor here, I would be getting the best good looking girls here in Pattaya. But it's evidently not based on my case.

Some of you might ask why don't I just stick with Thai ladies who are already in ME. Valid point, but I just sometime get bored from the same places and ladies. I want to try new blood, better looking ladies, as well as visiting new places for change.

[FunExplorer]

Hi friends,

I am 41/ m / Single / Indian who will be traveling in Pattaya in January End 2017 for about 7 days. Second visit. First visit was in March 2016. I am looking for a sweet, friendly and safe girl (age 20 to 30) who will stay with me for about 72 hours continuously like a wife. I will be staying in a good 3 star hotel with a swimming pool. Where can I find such a girl? My budget around 4500 Baht for 72 hours total or 1500 baht for 24 hours.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Vivek.Having been earlier once in Pattaya, it is quite odd that you should expect to have a sweet, friendly and safe girl, that too 20 to 30 at paltry 4500 Baht for three days. Do not have unrealistic expectations. You may probably get an older lady above 45 to 50 years that too with lot of search!

[FunExplorer]

Being British I have a weather related question. The twice I have been to Pattaya both visits were in March, I am planning to go in October but I see it is the wettest month, anyone been in October offer any insight as to if it is rainy most days then maybe it is best to do another month?

Thanks.Unlike Britain, it would not be cold when it rains in Thailand. And for another, it does usually rain continuously so that your "activities" are not restricted or hampered! I was in Pattaya year before last and it was quite pleasant.

[FunExplorer]

I wrote a post about 78 pages back. I want to re-post it with some additional info for the new bros who won't read back further than five pages and assume they have Pattaya figured out.

This is for complete beginners, so older members might think my observations are childish, because older members have been doing it for so long.

I won't give play by plays of my experiences unless it helps solidify my points. As always, older members are always welcome to chime in with their observations.

Another few notes, I'll be in Pattaya Jan. 18th until Feb. 1. I'm excited about this trip since it'll be my longest one to date!

I was 31 years old when I first went in 2015. I am a 6'2" (188 cm) 218 pound (99 kg) white American male. I have abs, an outgoing personality, and can bench more than my weight for reps. I can get girls easily in every country I've visited. I'm not bragging, I only included this info because I want to emphasize that I paid the exact same for the girls as every other member of this board. Looks do not matter! The girls want your wallet, not your abs..Good report. Reminds me of my own experience when I visited first!

[Paolo99]

However, all the ladies that I find them attractive here will not give me the chance to present myself, just because of the fact that I look as Indian / Arab, even though I have light-tanned-whitish skin complexion. What is worse, is getting rejected from some venues here in W. S. Just because of my ethnicity (maybe young look? Even though I tip and spend more cash in these venues than most fellow white people.

In contrary to Thais working in M. E. Countries, over here I get looks from ladies who I won't take them even if I get paid to do it.

If I'm as (Arab / Indian look-like) guy with good credibilities is having a hard time getting ladies here, I wonder what my fellow others are doing. ? What am I missing?I don't think there's anything to do with the look of Indian or Arab. I also look like a middle eastern guy and I've never been denied entry in any place in Pattaya or in Thailand (except one time in Baccara Bangkok when the doorman wanted to let me in but the Farang fat Ass that was sitting in front told him not to do it). I've been received very well and with a big smile in most places I've been to. It's well known that some places deny entry to Indians or black skinned guys and you should just boycott these places and go spend your money elsewhere, it's not as if there was only one place to have fun in Pattaya, right?

As for the good looking girls that are not attracted to you, that can happen to any kind of guy, not only Indians or Arabs. As a matter of fact I know a lot of girls that like Arabs. You look like you're holding yourself in high regard (not saying that its bad) , but maybe you should loosen up a bit and try to up your game with these girls. Or just try Mr Enternational's technique, it seems to be the best technique with girls in Pattaya.

[Mr Enternational]

I also do not have issue with money as I make around $100 K a year, and I'm staying in Pattaya at property priced over 11,000 baht per night. I do not mind paying 6,000 baht for lady that I find attractive.

However, all the ladies that I find them attractive here will not give me the chance to present myself, just because of the fact that I look as Indian / Arab, even though I have light-tanned-whitish skin complexion.Seriously, is this April Fool's week or something? You actually think hookers care about you presenting yourself? If I was in your shoes that would be the least of my worries. All you need to do is walk up to the woman you want and speak 3 words. I guarantee she will be right behind you and probably with a friend in tow. The three words? Six-Thousand Baht.

[Haven123]

Being British I have a weather related question. The twice I have been to Pattaya both visits were in March, I am planning to go in October but I see it is the wettest month, anyone been in October offer any insight as to if it is rainy most days then maybe it is best to do another month?

Thanks.Yeah, I was here in May 2016 for about 3 weeks. It does not rain every day, but when it does I think it is intense and can last a very long time. So, I would suggest don't come for just one week and have intense rain wash out say 2 days. I think a min of 2 weeks and ensure you get at least 3-4 numbers of some good girls you like in the first 24-48 hours. And you can shack up on those intense rainy days indoors.

Even now, oftentimes I go to the disco to dance and may not return with anyone since I am really beat and physically spent. But I derive a lot of pleasure from dancing. But, having the phone numbers of girls you can call up during the day, before I go to the disco is a real benefit. So, ask for phone numbers. Here's one way. Buy or offer a drink at the disco, if you like a girl and hand them your phone to add their name and phone number. Call it that moment to make sure it connects and then voila you have one more you can go to when it's raining for example. And make notes in the contact area about the girls key attributes. Tall / short / slim / pretty face / guess on age etc. / shy / popular etc using abbreviations.

Also, rain can bring unexpected luck. One day I woke up with this girl from Insomnia who had to go work and man it was pouring incredibly, incredibly hard. She was like, how am I going to get to work etc. So, I asked what happens if you can't make it because of the rain. She said she'd have to pay 400 baht fine for the day. I said ok, I'll pay it on top of what I'm giving you and she let out such a squeal of joy ( I just bought her a vacation day, plus 2000-3000 cash on top of that, plus all food, drink and some shopping to make it a happy one for her ( they only get 3 days off per month) and then she was with me, off and on, for a total of about 6 days and nights during that trip. ( remember, really honest to goodness, nice girls are difficult to come by, so when they do treat them well ....) So, plan ahead and leverage your invested time and harvest it when you have the advantage.

[Syzygies]

However, all the ladies that I find them attractive here will not give me the chance to present myself, just because of the fact that I look as Indian / Arab, even though I have light-tanned-whitish skin complexion. What is worse, is getting rejected from some venues here in W. S. Just because of my ethnicity (maybe young look? Even though I tip and spend more cash in these venues than most fellow white people.
Look there are some racially prejudiced girls, that steer clear of Indians and Arabs, maybe with valid reasons, maybe not. Your light skin is going to help, I think, and if you are free of bad body odours, this is also a big plus.

My suggestions to you would be, make sure you don't dress like an Indian or Arab, dress up a little better than most Farangs, do not smell like an Arab (clean armpits etc. Very frequently and thoroughly and use deodorant), and try not to even have very typical face hair look. Don't wear shorts exposing your very hairy legs, and also do not expose hairy armpits. Do not spend stingy like Indians and Farangs that sit on one water for hours in a bar.

Sometimes I see Indians in groups and they all seem to look like clones of each other for facial hair, haircuts, clothing, etc. The more different you can look, the better.

Also polite behavior and accent when speaking may help your case, I can't be expert, being a Farang, but plenty of Thai girls are okay With Indians that tick the right boxes. Yes I know you are not Indian.

Yeh, I think Mr. Ent is making a bad joke, for a serious subject.

[Haven123]

Seriously, is this April Fool's week or something? You actually think hookers care about you presenting yourself? If I was in your shoes that would be the least of my worries. All you need to do is walk up to the woman you want and speak 3 words. I guarantee she will be right behind you and probably with a friend in tow. The three words? Six-Thousand Baht.Gosh, Mr. ENt, that is the biggest bunch of bull I ever heard on this board. ( from the original poster, I mean ).

[Mr Enternational]

Yeh, I think Mr. Ent is making a bad joke, for a serious subject.I am in no way joking. What woman do you know in Pattaya that is going to turn down 6000 baht from anyone? If he is willing to pay that like he says he is he will have no problem. He could show up in a v-neck sweater, speedos, and church shoes with no socks if he wanted offering that kind of dosh. If I was willing to give a hooker that kind of money you could not tell me a damn thing. I would really be able to walk in and grab any chick I wanted to at that rate. I have never even heard 6000 out of any Pattaya hooker's mouth other than that What Up ripoff place.

[Member #2041]

Seriously, is this April Fool's week or something? You actually think hookers care about you presenting yourself? If I was in your shoes that would be the least of my worries. All you need to do is walk up to the woman you want and speak 3 words. I guarantee she will be right behind you and probably with a friend in tow. The three words? Six-Thousand Baht.Post of the year, and we're only two weeks into it.

[Haven123]

As for the good looking girls that are not attracted to you, that can happen to any kind of guy, not only Indians or Arabs. As a matter of fact I know a lot of girls that like Arabs. .I will volunteer and say that I get rejected many times (say 1 out of 6, or 15 pc of the time at Insomnia). But, that is the right of the girl (well, at least in the discos) and I am fine with that. I just say thank you and move on. Maybe takes me 10 minutes tops, to totally forget that. It's a numbers game. Even if you are not under 40, and good looking. And, I am certainly not.

But remember that on any given night, between Ibar / Insomnia /808/ Lucifers alone, there are at least 1000 girls. Say you are only interested in the top 10 percent. That is 100. Say, 2/3 are already with a guy. That leaves about 35 open. Say you ask 3 and they all reject you! Well, 32 are still left. It's just like working sales and marketing (which is something I am glad I did in my 20's), and they were not rejecting me personally, but choosing a competitor company!

It's a numbers game, stupid!

Play the stats, and let go of ego and pride! And, if nothing works, well come back the next night. And try again! You will gain experience and the learn from your own personal feedback loop.

[Eszpresszo]

Seriously, is this April Fool's week or something? You actually think hookers care about you presenting yourself? If I was in your shoes that would be the least of my worries. All you need to do is walk up to the woman you want and speak 3 words. I guarantee she will be right behind you and probably with a friend in tow. The three words? Six-Thousand Baht.I thought it was pretty much agreed that they do, and that your appearance and grooming do impact your negotiated price. Personally, I don't go out mongering unless I am well-scrubbed and well-groomed. No, you won't see Eszpresszo walking Beach Road in a tank-top, shorts and sandals acting like a drunk idiot. Obviously, I am doing something right. As far as I can tell, I seem to be getting better service for less than what other people are paying.

But, if you want to pay five times the norm to compensate for a slob approach, then be my guest. I guess some mongers never learned how to date ordinary girls, either.

[Syzygies]

I am in no way joking. What woman do you know in Pattaya that is going to turn down 6000 baht from anyone? Sure everyone has their price, I guess. However some people just say no without offering a price. Do you really want to take a girl that is really feeling that she is going to tolerate something she hates, just to get an extra few thousand Baht, but probably have a bad attitude to the whole thing?

Personally I am looking for fun girls. Will I keep offering more money to a girl that does not want to go? Nope. It would be damn stupid, I think.

If she is not interested from the start, before talking money, forget it. First thing a Thermae girl said to me, in a not very friendly manner, was "yes I can take Farangs, but I have to charge higher". Do you think I said "I would love to pay you a lot more to tolerate me"? Not really. I was looking for a passionate GFE. LOL Is extra money going to make her passionate? Hardly. Another girl hardly wanted to speak to me but in the end indicated she was waiting for someone. Should I have offered her an extra 3K to try to change her mind? Another absolute stunner I met on the street, but she was rushing to make it to some customer appointment somewhere nearby (not a street walker). She might have been an escort (maybe). Should I have flashed huge cash at her? LOL She looked so good, the price could have been very high. Who knows? Enough money probably always works, but how much? I could have offered her a lot for contact details, but then she could give fake info.

Maybe some guys are just wanting a piece of meat with a hole to fuck, and don't care what is the girl attitude.

[FunExplorer]

I just wanted to share me dilemma here getting Pattaya girls. First let me brief you about myself. (I know boring, please bare with me, thanks).

I'm about (7.5) lookwise M. E. Guy, with the age of 28, reach 5'10", weigh 160 lb, athletic with 6 packs and all the nice features. I'm also very open minded person, fluent in English, well-knowledgeable, and with high-intelligence compared to the average crowd. I find ladies to be wowed with the common knowledge I have (have been asked if I'm Dr, Engineer, etc).

I have been to many places such as USA for bachelor degree, and girls find me attractive (How I know? I get several second looks, and the compliments "handsome, cute. " have been told in several occasions). I also do not have problem getting Thais in M. E. Countries. In fact, every time I enter venue of Thai WGs, I get approached from the best good-looking WGs in that setting.

I also do not have issue with money as I make around $100 K a year, and I'm staying in Pattaya at property priced over 11,000 baht per night..Girls are not really worried about your looks but with the cash you would spend. I have never encountered such a problem being Indian. There have been occasional rejections or turning down for men who are in groups and unruly not necessarily from India or Arab. All that is required is to be polite and approach the girl straight. 6000 Baht is respectable amount in Pattaya and you should not have any problem. However, some girls may have prejudice for certain type of people and this is not restricted to Pattaya.

[Adrena]

I could almost feel a disturbance in the monger force when you said 6,000 baht. As if a thousand panties dropped at once and a thousand girls screamed yes.

Seriously though, I have always believed in letting the girl pick me. If I'm attracted to her and she isn't interested in me at all, I let her go. If I'm attracted to her and she's all over me, I pick her without hesitation.

Pattaya is a buyer's market. If you get rejected once, don't give up! I promise you'll find a hundred women willing to say yes.

[LittleBigMan]

I think everyone has good points regarding the topic. Here is mines and where I draw the line although I feel people pay what they want to make them happy. When it comes to Indians and I've pointed this out before just because you have the money one shouldn't have to throw it around just for them to accept or like you. I know two door guys who I rent rooms who work down on Walking St. One at a popular place. I've had a beer or two with these guys in the past and the impression I get from the conversation is they generalize and profile. They been told not to allow these type of guys if they dress and look a certain way that would indicate they are Indian. How many of you actually know who you are sitting with in places that they are Japanese, Korean, Chinese, etc, unless you know the language. They have been told to look for certain things like the clothing, the accent, even how they wear their hair. That being said it is really hit and miss with some customers.

Based on what I've learned there has been a number of times because I like to people watch stand outside the walkway from Happy A Go Go, right there is a empty Beer Bar for rent at that location is a number of ladies of the night freelancers. Stand a bit back and watch the Indian and Arabs walk by stopping to talk to them. Look at the style of dress to even the hair style etc. Watch how they interact with the girls and when they walk away watch for the girls facial expression and body language. After a while unless you are real slow you will figure out what is the problem and these problem spread fast right or wrong to the Thais who are in the business. In general, Thai rumor that Indians are cheap and arrogant towards women and this is even more so with Arabs. The word I hear a lot from Thais is they come across as if they were dogs! I wouldn't be surprise since these country seem to view and treat women as second class like property?

On number of occasion with time on my hand I take a guess whether the generalization and profile I development whether they are going to get turn back and majority of the time I'm right. I believe clothing has more to do with it than we care to believe? I've seen Indians in Go Go's and one's not being stopped outside usually dress more western with logo clothes and hat with Nike etc. I firmly believe if a young Indian was to be wearing a Nike High top, pants falling down with his boxer showing and a Nike cap turn to the side have a better chance getting in than a nice clean cut Indian with a expensive silk shirt and slack.

I firmly believe if a Indian nicely dress and smelling got stop pull out a 100 baht and hand it to the door guy you would get in that is surely better than spending 6 thousand baht. I rather once they get in spend it on drinks for a few girls or even some ping pongs. Surely management is going to remember next time that is just my opinion instead of bribing someone to be with you. It might not seem different like overpaying but it is to me at least. To me it is about patients these days that is the name of the game. So people don't like you who cares if I was making a 100 grand a year.

[ChiliMike]

I want to give some back round about myself. I have been a member at ISG for many years. 95% of my reports were about San Jose, San Jose got expensive. Same girls every trip. Only thing holding back from Pattaya was the flight. Now as sick is this is to say. I look forward to it.

I am going to stay at some different type hotels this trip. Sugar sugar go go for 2 nights, a few nights at a sports bar in metro LK. And a few others in metro. Thinking it will be great location and a different type trip.

I will try to report my day to day experiences, hope there are some of you that will be interested in them and will share some feedback.

I have had some luck with thaifriendy on my last trip. Fun nasty girls. I even scored a freebie out of a little bar on Soi I. I put 1000 b under her phone in my hotel room. She either didn't see it or didn't want it. Hot young girl drunk off her ass. Zero tits but 19 and cute.

I also love the Philippines as I am returning in April. Nothing compares to going to high society and having 20 girls to every guy. And I am one of maybe 3 Americans in the place. Amazing.

Hope this flight goes well. I am in JFK now waiting for my 10 am flight.

[Wolvenvacht]

Seriously, is this April Fool's week or something? You actually think hookers care about you presenting yourself? If I was in your shoes that would be the least of my worries. All you need to do is walk up to the woman you want and speak 3 words. I guarantee she will be right behind you and probably with a friend in tow. The three words? Six-Thousand Baht.Yes, money is the name of the game. However Thai also have the concept of "sanuk", i.e. the work has to be fun. So if for all the right or wrong reasons she'll think it will be a bore, she might well wait for the next opportunity. We say that there are many fish in the sea but that goes for the girls as well: there will always be a next punter around the corner.

[Syzygies]

They been told not to allow these type of guys if they dress and look a certain way that would indicate they are Indian. How many of you actually know who you are sitting with in places that they are Japanese, Korean, Chinese, etc, unless you know the language. They have been told to look for certain things like the clothing, the accent, even how they wear their hair. That being said it is really hit and miss with some customers. I have been sitting in a bar and the Thai manager said something about the Singaporean Chinese guys walking past. I asked how could she tell they were from Singapore. She said with her experience and they way they dressed, it was really obvious. So yes, experts can pick the Asian nationality very skilfully.



In general, Thai rumor that Indians are cheap and arrogant towards women and this is even more so with Arabs. The word I hear a lot from Thais is they come across as if they were dogs! I wouldn't be surprise since these country seem to view and treat women as second class like property?
I have been occasionally a little disturbed by groups of Indians partying just a little too arrogantly like they owned the place just a little too close to me in Billboard bar, where I felt uncomfortable in case a drunk one was going to crash into me and the girl on my lap. Would be nice if they sat down like everyone else and stopped moving around with drinks so much so close to me. I guess I am used to guys being still or having a bit of a space from guys jumping around hugging each other, high fiving etc. Equally I get slightly annoyed of with arrogant loud drunk Farangs that won't sit down or seem to be stumbling around, or are too fidgety too close by seemingly too interested in the girl sitting on my lap and making her feel uncomfortable. I don't usually see this from Japanese or Korean guys. The customers should be cool laid back, or if wanting to dance around and have fun, make sure there is space and it's not disturbing anyone else too close, and not blocking the view of the stage, not in a crowded area.

Indians are obviously very welcome in Billboard bar (Bangkok) and form a significant portion of the customers. I guess there must be Pattaya bars similar with plenty of Indians.

[SoloPlayer]

Look there are some racially prejudiced girls, that steer clear of Indians and Arabs, maybe with valid reasons, maybe not. Your light skin is going to help, I think, and if you are free of bad body odours, this is also a big plus.

My suggestions to you would be, make sure you don't dress like an Indian or Arab, dress up a little better than most Farangs, do not smell like an Arab (clean armpits etc. Very frequently and thoroughly and use deodorant), and try not to even have very typical face hair look. Don't wear shorts exposing your very hairy legs, and also do not expose hairy armpits. Do not spend stingy like Indians and Farangs that sit on one water for hours in a bar.

Sometimes I see Indians in groups and they all seem to look like clones of each other for facial hair, haircuts, clothing, etc. The more different you can look, the better.

Also polite behavior and accent when speaking may help your case, I can't be expert, being a Farang, but plenty of Thai girls are okay With Indians that tick the right boxes. Yes I know you are not Indian.

Yeh, I think Mr. Ent is making a bad joke, for a serious subject.I only dress in western style, even at work and back in my hometown. All my clothes are casual yet high-end brands, and all my underwear are from CK or higher brands. I also get compliments from ladies "nice shirts. Etc", and when I take lady back to my room they like to wear my clothes and they compliment the fabrics and the smell of them. I don't like smoking, or eating Indian and Thai food as I think they are smelly and cause body odors. In terms of hair, I'm always clean-shaven face, and I have light-medium body hair with no hair in the upper-body parts.

At Mr. Ent.

Just yesterday I offered lady from GoGo bar who was sending me smiles while dancing 6000 baht + 1500 bar fine, and she turned it down. Even the waitress working there was surprised from her response. Which indicate it is not usual of her to turn such an offer down. ? (I'd say she was "7.75" face and body combined). She is from Sexy Airline GoGo bar. If she was in Bahrain I'd easily get her for 6500 to 7500 baht total.

I also have to pay 200 baht (including drink) to enter most GoGo bars, while seeing Westerners sticking their heads inside the curtain to see whether they like it or not, and leave or enter without having to pay fees. I had this one GoGo bar asked me for 2,000 baht fee to get in!!

Anyway, I ended up taking another one "7.5 lookwise" for 5000 + 1650 bar fine and lady drink. We agreed on 2 rounds and she left the next day at 11 am. She was too shy from kissing and I wished I brought it up from the beginning! (Now don't think my mouth smell! I've almost perfect white teeth with zero odor).

It feels nasty when fugly women (specially Japanese women) look at me with frown face thinking I'm looking at them, while I'm actually looking passed them as I'm walking toward that direction. Maybe that's why some people would think "Indian, Arab" look arrogant? Because in response to her reaction, I could make sad-face and be like "sorry I did not mean to look at your 'beautiful face!' because you are "Saint" too good to me, or act arrogant and be like "I really don't give a fuck about you, move on".

Arab / Indian could also be seen as arrogant because they used to get approached by better good looking Thai ladies in other countries such as the ones in M. E.

I don't want to make it long, all in all, this is my first visit to Pattaya of 5 days total, I enjoyed staying in amazing hotel and I enjoyed the activities in the area. But I don't think I will ever come here again looking for lady to spend time with. I have a lot better chances fucking the very good-looking Thai ladies in M. E. With less cost, hassle, disappointment, and uncertainty. Thai ladies who working in Arab country are expecting to be seeing Arab men (not Japanese / Chinese), they also speak better English, and they always act nice and polite since they are away from their country 'vulnerable'.

P. S. I recommend Sensation GoGo bar as they have many ladies and several of them are good looking. The ladies and the staff were nice, and they did not ask me for entrance fee.

[LittleBigMan]

Basically, the large number of Indian in general we are talking about the one's that have given all Indians a bad name are very obvious to spot. As noted long and many times you aren't going to find them on this board. The one's on this board are the one's paying for their countrymen bad behavior. I have nothing against overpaying but I read many times here Indian that are going beyond overpaying to be noticed and accepted. I feel if they dress a bit more western and carry a short conversation with them even be. S. And especially tip them a 100, I really think that is what it will take majority of the times. I've on two occasion help a Indian in front of me into Bacarra and Happy because it was obvious and it seem the right thing to do. Indians the one's we are basically talking about that get booted I give slack too because they just haven't been educated in terms of how to act in other people country. The Arabs on the others hand especially the young one's don't seem to give a rat ass for anyone except themselves and seem in general from my experience are some of the most self center arrogant people I have met here in Pattaya.

Not to leave others out because there are bad apple's in every race. The Aussies are pretty rowdy bunch too, they seem to be all juice up on something. Once at Bacarra, two Aussie were sitting next to me next thing I know the juice up guy gets up knocks my drink over and start to give his buddy a head knot one of those sleeper holds you see them give in the MMA.

At Bacarra, never ceased to amaze me the Koreans, just last week it was crowded like always, I got a seat in a booth on the end, I guess the guy didn't like I wasn't in his group. So slowly he started to inch his back into my left shoulder and started to bounce around with the music. I never moved or said a word acted as if I didn't noticed, too old to give anyone the time of day any longer. Maybe he was hoping I get upset or moved but just there to see tits and ass. Finally after a half hour he gets up with him buddy to move to another area, before he leaves he gives me the eye and I just smile. That was enough to give him my point of view. I also seen more than want to count Koreans with their flipflops smoking and picking their toes.

There are all kinds in Pattaya, on both side of the fence don't let it get to you. Stay your course deviate and be reflexible you will have a good time!

[David 2]

Hi friends,

I am 41/ m / Single / Indian who will be traveling in Pattaya in January End 2017 for about 7 days. Second visit. First visit was in March 2016. I am looking for a sweet, friendly and safe girl (age 20 to 30) who will stay with me for about 72 hours continuously like a wife. I will be staying in a good 3 star hotel with a swimming pool. Where can I find such a girl? My budget around 4500 Baht for 72 hours total or 1500 baht for 24 hours.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Vivek.That works out to almost 63 THB per hour. I'm quite sure that hundreds, if not thousands of beautiful, personable, poised, horny Thai ladies will beat a path to the door of your luxurious 3 star hotel to meet you and apply for this once in a lifetime opportunity.

I'm just a bit apprehensive that you'll ruin the market for the rest of us low roller guys when the women meet a high roller like you. Please rethink flashing around all that cash and spoiling all those women.

Thanks in advance.

[Mr Enternational]

Sure everyone has their price, I guess. However some people just say no without offering a price. Do you really want to take a girl that is really feeling that she is going to tolerate something she hates, just to get an extra few thousand Baht, but probably have a bad attitude to the whole thing?

Personally I am looking for fun girls. Will I keep offering more money to a girl that does not want to go? Nope. It would be damn stupid, I think.I agree 100%. I also think it would be damn stupid to give a chick 6000 baht. But the original poster seemed to just want to be with who he wanted to be with damning to hell any fun factor or chemistry that might be involved. Offering 6000 baht he can definitely be with who he wants to be with is my only point.

[Haven123]

1. A couple of nights ago, I met this really cute chick at Pier Disco, early in the am!! She was dressed in a black outfit, clutching 2 long stem roses in her hand, and had a shy but cute smile on her face.

Well, I chat with her and she is 19, and was ready to go with me. 2000 LT. Got to my place and after her shower I discover that her dress and way it was styled hid all her best assets. Her tits were absolutely perfect and her ass, very young and tight for a Thai. Got to be the best I have had the good fortune to meet in a very long, long time in Asia. Pretty face but not super pretty (A 7 at least but not a solid 8). Plus if we're, she'd not have been around at that hour, IMO ( plus her outfit did her zero justice, thankfully for me) .She was great and very open, except she did not want to DFK much! Bummer for me. And her English was practically zero. So, I can't say it was a total GFE experience and since my friend from my last visit is coming down from Isaan in 48-72 hours, I have to pause for now.

2. Talked to girl in halter one piece walking down on Soi 13 as I was returning from my oil massage. She said she does not work and only goes to Insomnia. Great ass totally, but barely 5 ft tall. Which is what I noticed from the rear view as I was walking. A bit older. Maybe 28. Got her number and as we were walking down I asked her if she wanted to come to my place and she asks ST and I say yes. 1,000. But she was a star fish! I sent her packing quick with her 1,000. So, again no repeat.

3. Went to Soi Buakhao again and tried out the Dream Teen massage, purely out of curiosity. A 20 year old from Isaan, who was very chatty and fun. But pretty non existent massage skills. 400 baht for the hour for the supposed oil and ball massage, with additional options ranging from 500-1500 baht additional for the HJ. To full service. I did not go for any of the options, as I discovered she too likes to party in Insomnia. Exchanged numbers in the room and she might come down to the club tonight with another friend of hers who works at the same place. If she does come, I said I'd buy drinks and she agreed to leave with me LT.

After that poor massage skills, needed to rectify that and popped back into my regular massage place ( Paanan) near Areca Lodge and got a really high quality 2 hr oil massage, with foot and head combo for 500, plus 150 tip. So, that saved the day. Heading to Insomnia and maybe Lucifers tonight. ( oh and I got turned down by a 22-24 year old at 6 am the other night at Insomnia, ONLY because I failed her only question LOL. And that was : Why do you wanna go with me ? My answer : I don't know ! ( well it was late and I'd had a lot to drink ). She then said maybe when you know, I will go ! Haha. Now, I doubt that has happened to too many guys at about 550 am at Insomnia !!!

4. Walked down BR last night about 730 pm and did not see any great gals. Only 3, I would consider 6 or 7 and none above. , but decided to pass, as I prefer to build somewhat of a rapport at a club before striking a deal.

[MarioHen]

I am happy that I came back to Pattaya, disturbed me a little rise in prices, Thailand slowly becomes not attractive Country if we talking about the prices.

[SoloPlayer]

I agree 100%. I also think it would be damn stupid to give a chick 6000 baht. But the original poster seemed to just want to be with who he wanted to be with damning to hell any fun factor or chemistry that might be involved. Offering 6000 baht he can definitely be with who he wants to be with is my only point.That's why I said "I could not get the chance to present myself" in the first place, to see whether there is mutual likes could evolved afterward. I would never take lady if I feel she is the tiniest-slightest forced to see me because of the need of money or by her "mamasang". Many of the Thai ladies I see back in M. E. would lower their fees to half the usual and sometimes free after repeated visits. I also hear the phrases "I don't have BF, I feel lonely today" with most of them trying to get the second time. Heck, I sometimes have two Thai "girlfriends" (7.5 at least) who I fuck for free most of the time, and if they ask why I tell them this is "open-relationship" since you are fucking other men don't ask me to be loyal to you myself.

Also, most Thai WGs in M. E. countries, beside the shy ones, would approach me themselves and try to impress me with their looks, English, etc. Which does not happened here. I really miss being liked and wanted by the hot ladies which is confident boost and sometimes it makes the day without ending with any of them in bed. And unlike here, I've almost never had Thai lady less than 7 try to approach me, just because they realize the fact that I would not bother fucking them even if offered free of charge.

These could be few of the reasons why would one thinks Arab / Indian could be seen as arrogant here in Pattaya toward Thai ladies.

I would advice the fellow Indian / Arab not to come to Thailand expecting to be treated by equally by Thai ladies the same way you have back in hometown. Thai ladies here are ignorant about you, and they only worship the Japanese "their highest class", and then Farangs. While you Indian / Arab would come last to none.

As a M. E. I would rather go to Dubai or Bahrain to fuck Thai ladies than coming here. Because back there I would be treated equally as the Japanese people treated here, if not even better due to their 'vulnerability of living abroad'.

[MarioHen]

I found a cool club in Pattaya. Located Phra Tam Nak Soi 5. From the street in a small alley in the right side there will be the New Nordic Group-Trend Village, after these buildings is a house without any advertising, there is a gentleman club, is usually parked a lot of motorcycles in front and behind the gate. This is a club for the day.

To the point. Short sex 1000 B. Buffet for 350 B- very good meal. Bar prices normal, always about 30 girls, nice girls, I recommend a nice place, not everyone knows! Enjoy!

[Banana Boi]

You visited Kinnaree place. Well documented. Glad you had a good time there. Great alternative to soi 6 for afternoon fun.

[Mr Enternational]

As a M. E. I would rather go to Dubai or Bahrain to fuck Thai ladies than coming here. Because back there I would be treated equally as the Japanese people treated here, if not even better due to their 'vulnerability of living abroad'.The funny thing is that they are the same Thai ladies! I am sure I am not the only one who knows a few Thai women that have gone over to work in Dubai or Bahrain. I posted a report last year of a girl I met that told me how the entire operation works. As soon as they get there they have to work off the 100,000 baht or so debt that they incurred to get there. After that they start earning money that they can send home.

[Drukyul2000]

I just wanted to share me dilemma here getting Pattaya girls. First let me brief you about myself. (I know boring, please bare with me, thanks).

I have been to many places such as USA for bachelor degree, and girls find me attractive (How I know? I get several second looks, and the compliments "handsome, cute. " have been told in several occasions). I also do not have problem getting Thais in M. E. Countries. In fact, every time I enter venue of Thai WGs, I get approached from the best good-looking WGs in that setting..Well whatever you have said is the hard truth of Pattaya but you don't have to take it seriously and stop having fun because there are Thai lady's (maybe I will PM some contacts) who actually prefer Indians / Arabs. Both of different reasons but I won't get into that.

I was in Pattaya last year and went through the same rejection but ended up with one of the best available in Insomnia every night, three nights. I took somebody that I really wanted without any compromise.

The secret is not to take the rejections personal and have patience, it's like this while you are being rejected, remember there are girls approaching / smiling at you too and you are rejecting them. So I think it's fair!!

Also where did the 6000 Bhat price come from?? A 8 to 10 in Pattaya shouldn't be between 2 k to 3 k.

Also the rejection and then the hunting game in Pattaya makes this whole thing interesting and boosts your ego when you take home the girl that you want after all the rejections. If don't like this then walk into one of the go go bars, pay and take home.

You need to relax a bit and play the hunter in Insomnia or 8008 and see the fun. You are not alone in the rejection list, that's the hard truth of Pattaya.

[LittleBigMan]

That's why I said "I could not get the chance to present myself" in the first place, to see whether there is mutual likes could evolved afterward. I would never take lady if I feel she is the tiniest-slightest forced to see me because of the need of money or by her "mamasang". Many of the Thai ladies I see back in M. E. would lower their fees to half the usual and sometimes free after repeated visits. I also hear the phrases "I don't have BF, I feel lonely today" with most of them trying to get the second time. Heck, I sometimes have two Thai "girlfriends" (7.5 at least) who I fuck for free most of the time, and if they ask why I tell them this is "open-relationship" since you are fucking other men don't ask me to be loyal to you myself.

Also, most Thai WGs in M. E. countries, beside the shy ones, would approach me themselves and try to impress me with their looks, English, etc. Which does not happened here. I really miss being liked and wanted by the hot ladies which is confident boost and sometimes it makes the day without ending with any of them in bed. And unlike here, I've almost never had Thai lady less than 7 try to approach me, just because they realize the fact that I would not bother fucking them even if offered free of charge.

These could be few of the reasons why would one thinks Arab / Indian could be seen as arrogant here in Pattaya toward Thai ladies.

I would advice the fellow Indian / Arab not to come to Thailand expecting to be treated by equally by Thai ladies the same way you have back in hometown. Thai ladies here are ignorant about you, and they only worship the Japanese "their highest class", and then Farangs. While you Indian / Arab would come last to none.

As a M. E. I would rather go to Dubai or Bahrain to fuck Thai ladies than coming here. Because back there I would be treated equally as the Japanese people treated here, if not even better due to their 'vulnerability of living abroad'.In reading your report sorry to hear you so jaded. With all the stuff you noted about yourself I can understand why you wouldn't want to come back to Thailand, I wonder aside from the food, elephants, temples, why you even bother with the ladies here knowing how much you got going.

Some of the information I got from Thai girls about Indians and Arab are from two girls who have worked in Japan, Korean, Maylasia, Bahrain said of all the places was Bahrain was the worse and where their negative comments stem. One even took some of her personal money she was making and paid off her debt early just so she could come home.

[Lefeu]

I could almost feel a disturbance in the monger force when you said 6,000 baht. As if a thousand panties dropped at once and a thousand girls screamed yes...That is funny! I can hear the sound of the 1,000 panties dropping all at once amid screaming girls. Just hilarious!

Wow, with 6,000 bahts on hand and the man cannot get laid, sad, sad.

[Syzygies]

And unlike here, I've almost never had Thai lady less than 7 try to approach me, just because they realize the fact that I would not bother fucking them even if offered free of charge.

These could be few of the reasons why would one thinks Arab / Indian could be seen as arrogant here in Pattaya toward Thai ladies.

I would advice the fellow Indian / Arab not to come to Thailand expecting to be treated by equally by Thai ladies the same way you have back in hometown. Thai ladies here are ignorant about you, and they only worship the Japanese "their highest class", and then Farangs. While you Indian / Arab would come last to none.

As a M. E. I would rather go to Dubai or Bahrain to fuck Thai ladies than coming here. Because back there I would be treated equally as the Japanese people treated here, if not even better due to their 'vulnerability of living abroad'.Took me a while to work out what M. E. was. Probably not a well recognised abbreviation here. Same as PI is not very universal, used by others.

Yes I can see why they might be seen as arrogant. You are in paradise already with two regular free 7. 5 Giks (not true girlfriends), and looked on favourably by all the Thai hookers.

So I must be in the wrong countries, I should be going to Dubai. Girls quickly lowering the fee to 50% or free, unbelievable. Must be so hard for girls to get a decent lay in these countries.

I know one Thai girl who somehow agreed to go to work in Dubai on a contract with a friend at a "restaurant" (ha ha), despite all her friends telling her not to go under any circumstances. She eventually escaped back to Thailand after a horrific experience, I didn't even want to know the full details (respecting her privacy). I remember how bad we felt for her when she got to ring to my GF's brother tearfully from over there. She had never been in P4P in Thailand. However she did have a Thai boyfriend (bisexual?) who was also the boyfriend of a rich Farang man. So a weird situation.

[Haven123]

Yes, money is the name of the game. However Thai also have the concept of "sanuk", i.e. the work has to be fun. So if for all the right or wrong reasons she'll think it will be a bore, she might well wait for the next opportunity. We say that there are many fish in the sea but that goes for the girls as well: there will always be a next punter around the corner.I hope people reflect on this and try understand why this is the case all over the world. As the saying goes: men are from Mars. Women are from Venus ".

Put simply, women have a higher level of emotions and feelings than men. P4 P girls are no exception.

And the better their looks, figure, age etc. The more are the chances that they can have their cake and eat it too.

The key is to really connect with them, IF you want a real GFE. My 2 cents (but nothing new) and YMMV. For this you Have to dress well, have some baseline looks or some other part of a ' game' that they find interesting.

I think their daily interactions in the virtual world such as in Facebook and other social media have made even the P4 P girls feel very confident (a few photos and hundreds of likes and tons of comments from both their thai and Farang friends).

Anyone who does not truly appreciate the sociological implications of that will not fare well in today's P4 P arena. I would suggest based on empirical evidence that 3 out 4 men that I see simply don't. For those men BR, Soi 6, the gentlemans clubs like Kinnaree are the best options. Go go girls and girls in discos (7. 5 and above) are generally speaking more difficult to get.

[Mutedf8]

Any good places (clubs / pubs) with some private space to have some good time time local GF in Pattaya?

[NickMehta]

Spent 3 days in Pattaya with a few friends...Amari has beautiful swimming pools, that I decided to visit on Saturday morning. It was over run by families with kids, a few couples, and very very few single dudes. I presume that all single dudes were sleeping away a night of debauchery But, of course, you don't want to hear about me swimming. So here's the short tale about the day we ran into the Russians!

Still pretty raw behind the ears, we started the evening with a trip to soapy massage places. Rasputin was all over the web, and became our first destination for the evening. As one walks in, a bevy of beautiful bombshells is seated close to the door. The four of us couldn't look away, even as we continued to walk deeper into the club. The dozen or so women had us by our balls. We then realized that there were more women, 40 or so, up ahead in another fish bowl configuration. Mama-san walks escorts us to our seats and offers up the usual deal. Reds for 2 k, blues for 2.5 k and whites for 3 k. Hesitatingly we inquire about the gals up by the door, and are politely informed that the "VIP" girls are 6 k (I later heard that the VIP gals have the right to refuse a customer. But could be grapevine). Mama-san clearly didn't expect us to upgrade ourselves, and pointed out to some cute women in the regular crowd. Didn't work; none of us could forget the visual treat, and we decided to get out. We shuffled our way out, grabbing another eyeful as we passed some of the the hottest Thai women.

As we walked away, we also rued our budget limitations, and decided to get drunk instead Found a beer bar on the street, and grabbed a handful. Got propositioned at the bar (which was nice), but it was still early. Anyway, we moved on, and some time later, found ourselves in Honey 2.

I liked the setup at Honey 2. The seats are closer to the girls, giving one a clearer view. It wasn't oppressively stuffy, as some of the others had been. And, the girls were cute and flirtatious. Even before I sat down, many were smiling and waving out. I had a tough time making a choice, but finally selected a smiling beauty (#452); who I later learnt was Pom. Would've been around 25-27, not very tall, but shapely with a nice set of tits. The flirtation continued as we paid our dues at the counter, and Pom decided that the elevator was a great place for a huge hug! I already liked her.

If Ann's massage (from my previous post) was good, Pom's was heavenly! Her touch was soft and caressing, while also having a lot of friction at the same time. At one stage, she was wrapped around me, legs splayed over my thighs, tits on my chest, and then she shrugged her way down, and back up. Just wonderful! I was afraid she'd bruise her pussy before I had a chance to get in there.

Off to the bed, and she's starting with a CBJ that's fantastic. Now, I prefer BBBJ, and can never cum with a cover, but she's sensational, and I'm nearly there. Quickly switch to WOT, and she's working her ass off. But, a few minutes I can see that she's tiring and have her move into doggy. I figured I'll have control of pace here; but she's ramming back into me as hard as she can. She wants to please!

Unfortunately, I'm into love making more than hardcore action, and this aggression is not helping. I pull out, while she's still on her knees. Pom pulls off the condom and peeks in to find no cum, then looks at me with curiosity. Now, her English is marginal at best, and there's no way I can tell her that I want to go slower. Finally, she mimes and says "Finish" rolling her lips in an O, to indicate that she wants me to cum. We try again, and she gives a great HJ too. But, nada.

As we wrap up, I can tell that she's upset. She's a real pleaser, and wants a happy customer. As we walk out, I tip her 200 and she's genuinely surprised. Folds her hands in a namaste and thanks me. I'd love to go back to see Pom. After I got back to the lobby, discovered that we'd run over the allotted time, by 10 minutes. I hope Pom doesn't get into trouble on my account.

Off to WS later in the night, and it's abuzz again. We traverse the length of WS and generally having a good time. Now, everyone knows the affinity Indians have towards fair skin. And, when a cute Russian chick waves out ear Galaxy club, one dude gravitated towards her. The promise is made (no entry charges, many gals inside), a deal is struck (only one LD for her), and we're inside. It's a smallish place; a couple of poles with sofas around each roughly in a square. Music is good. But everything goes downhill from there. A loud and boisterous Kira walks over and dominates the proceedings for the next few minutes. She's fairly good at Hindi, and befriends us all too quickly, and has us eating out of her palm. Then, she wiggles her way into ordering 2 LDs, which turn out to be be-52 flambes, priced at 450 baht a pop! Combined with all the other alcohol we ordered, we paid 1800 baht a few minutes in Galaxy Club! Meanwhile, another lady walks over and starts gyrating into our faces, apparently dancing to the music. It was interesting; she was belly dancing to pop music. We watched for a couple of minutes, when Kira pointed out that we're to tip the dancing lady. In went a 100, and out went the lady! That's all you get folks! Of course, the B-52's were long gone, and Kira asks for round two! I'm up on my feet and shoving everyone out, we've fallen for the oldest trick here. Unbelievably, I've to tip the doorman another 100 to let us out. The easiest way to get rid of a couple of grand in a few minutes, is to visit Galaxy. Never again!

Of course, we're laughing at ourselves once we're out. We learnt our lesson. Next time, go to Ukraine for the European chicks.

We closed off the night with a legit Thai massage at Aree, which is on BR near WS. Our exhausted limbs thanked us for a very good and relaxing massage. Day 3 to follow!

Cheerz!

[MarioHen]

I have the pussy for a whole week, she may not look like Miss Thailand but she does a really good job.

You can find the pussy http://www.thai-sexy-holiday.com/hostesses/lee/ or as not working there, she is freelancer in the Ibar and other discotheques in the area of walking street.

[Lefeu]

...Now, everyone knows the affinity Indians have towards fair skin. And, when a cute Russian chick waves out ear Galaxy club, one dude gravitated towards her. The promise is made (no entry charges, many gals inside), a deal is struck (only one LD for her), and we're inside... Unbelievably, I've to tip the doorman another 100 to let us out. The easiest way to get rid of a couple of grand in a few minutes, is to visit Galaxy. Never again!

Of course, we're laughing at ourselves once we're out. We learnt our lesson. Next time, go to Ukraine for the European chicks.Haha, very funny but a good report. Your experience at Galaxy club is what we usually refer to as the price of tuition. That's how we learn, from our mistakes and especially when we pay dearly. BTW, if you like Russian chicks, go to the German FKKs, plenty of them and cheaper, at 50 Euros per session. Plenty of Indians there too, even some Indian providers can be found there. But the service from Russian chicks is the same all over the world, chitty. I learned the hard way too.

[Banana Boi]

. BTW, if you like Russian chicks, go to the German FKKs, plenty of them and cheaper, at 50 Euros per session. Which FKK clubs currently have plenty of Russians? I have seen very few Russians since 2012.

Thanks for the write up on galaxy. Always wondered specifically where the price gauging was at that place.

[Christian G]

You can find the pussy http://www.thai-sexy-holiday.com/hostesses/lee/ or as not working there, she is freelancer in the Ibar and other discotheques in the area of walking street.Why you post often this link in your messages? Marketing? Advertising? Are you an associate there?

[Christian G]

Which FKK clubs currently have plenty of Russians? I have seen very few Russians since 2012.Agree. Met very few Russians in FKKs and other clubs in Germany since 2009. And I mean real Russian, not a fake one from Romania. So for Russians go to Russia! LOL.

[MarioHen]

Why you post often this link in your messages? Marketing? Advertising? Are you an associate there?I'm always on vacation in Pattaya with Thai Sexy, and this is the link to the page where is this pussy what I have now. Maybe someone will want to find her, is hot!

Why is the question, what happened?

[BionicMan]

Why you post often this link in your messages? Marketing? Advertising? Are you an associate there?Quite clearly a spam.

[BionicMan]

Any good places (clubs / pubs) with some private space to have some good time time local GF in Pattaya?There should be some, even if the military coup killed all the night entertainment. Where to find girls, sex and entertainment is a secret that is revealed in RTFF.

[KrisMonger]

It seems some things never change. Galaxy was a ripoff a few years ago (see my earlier post) as it is now. It is amazing to see Indians getting sucked into Galaxy because of the "white" skin addiction.


Amari has beautiful swimming pools, that I decided to visit on Saturday morning. It was over run by families with kids, a few couples, and very very few single dudes. I presume that all single dudes were sleeping away a night of debauchery But, of course, you don't want to hear about me swimming. So here's the short tale about the day we ran into the Russians!

Still pretty raw behind the ears, we started the evening with a trip to soapy massage places. Rasputin was all over the web, and became our first destination for the evening. As one walks in, a bevy of beautiful bombshells is seated close to the door. The four of us couldn't look away, even as we continued to walk deeper into the club. The dozen or so women had us by our balls. We then realized that there were more women, 40 or so, up ahead in another fish bowl configuration. Mama-san walks escorts us to our seats and offers up the usual deal. Reds for 2 k, blues for 2.5 k and whites for 3 k. Hesitatingly we inquire about the gals up by the door, and are politely informed that the "VIP" girls are 6 k (I later heard that the VIP gals have the right to refuse a customer. But could be grapevine). Mama-san clearly didn't expect us to upgrade ourselves, and pointed out to some cute women in the regular crowd. Didn't work; none of us could forget the visual treat, and we decided to get out. We shuffled our way out, grabbing another eyeful as we passed some of the the hottest Thai women.

As we walked away, we also rued our budget limitations, and decided to get drunk instead Found a beer bar on the street, and grabbed a handful. Got propositioned at the bar (which was nice), but it was still early. Anyway, we moved on, and some time later, found ourselves in Honey 2..

[ParkVille]

Being British I have a weather related question. The twice I have been to Pattaya both visits were in March, I am planning to go in October but I see it is the wettest month, anyone been in October offer any insight as to if it is rainy most days then maybe it is best to do another month?

Thanks.About the rain, it rains about every day if you go in Oct. That's the worst time weather-wise, but it can often be a misty rain at that time, or it can be straight up street flooding. The rain doesn't bother me that much because I can move between the venues on walking street pretty easily in the mist and with partial roof cover.

There is no positive to going in October though. Even if you go in October, you can still have a hard time getting the hottest stunners (as they are busy with other mongers either in bar or ST / LT) so it's not like October is open season for any stunner you want. When I was there in Oct (I live in Bangkok), my Pattaya regular was booked for an entire week LT, and when I went go go hopping on Friday, every place was occupied by punters, all themselves occupying the time of the hottest girls there exclusively. It was like the Pattaya regulars had dips on all the hot pussy Friday LOL. It took me some time, but I finally found a really petite and hot spinner at Iron Bar and did some pretty memorable FS with her, quite memorable that one. But it took 3 hours of go go hopping to just find that one girl. Yikes.

I think October might even be a bad month to go (as a punter) as it's possible there are less working girls available, but still plenty of vying punters? Perhaps Sept is good because it's still low season, and the girls may not have gone off to their home yet to avoid the Pattaya / Bangkok flooding?

[ParkVille]

555 not only that.

He wants her to be with him like a wife for 72 hrs (what's that? A business plan? A metered rental?

When most of us escape to Thailand for at least few days to be away from the wife!Maybe you guys could stop bragging about how awesome your own life is, and just help the guy?

[RodneyOstby]

Being British I have a weather related question. The twice I have been to Pattaya both visits were in March, I am planning to go in October but I see it is the wettest month, anyone been in October offer any insight as to if it is rainy most days then maybe it is best to do another month?

Thanks.Hi my friend,

I've been looking for some information about it. Basically, December to March are the best months to go to Thailand. Though as with any tropical destination, a short and ridiculously torrential burst of rain is unpredictably possible, even on the sunniest of days. The Thai islands in the Gulf of Thailand. Koh Samui, Koh Phangan, Koh Tao. Tend to get less rain than the rest of the country (even in rainy season), and are at their best from the end of January until mid March. January is the freshest month. Great for after the Christmas and NYE party chaos. February is the driest month, one of the sunniest, and the heat still bearable; and March is sunny and dry, too.

The intense but usually brief downpours between June and October make this low season for tourists (and breeding season for mosquitoes). Rarely, though, does it rain all day or night. Temperatures fluctuate in the low 30's during the day; and between 25-27 degrees Celsius at night. Still a good time to come as the bars and beaches are less crowded, hotel rates lower and there's still lots of tenacious sunshine.

[ParkVille]

I have the pussy for a whole week, she may not look like Miss Thailand but she does a really good job.

You can find the pussy http://www.thai-sexy-holiday.com/hostesses/lee/ or as not working there, she is freelancer in the Ibar and other discotheques in the area of walking street.Fairly attractive, no doubt. Nice find.

[Adrena]

Trip Report 2017, Day 1.

I'm writing this report from the Hooters on Beach Road and I'm a little hungover, so I apologize for any typos. I got really drunk last night and it was great! I flew into Bangkok yesterday at 14:30. Immigration was as slow as usual, which meant an hour of lines and bag searching. After finding my bag, I ventured out to find the pre-arranged ride hadn't bothered to pick me up. I didn't much too much as I've studied the forum enough to know alternative methods. I went down in the bottom of BKK and found a bus willing to go for 120 baht. It leaves every hour. I was going to take it but decided to spend big instead and get a taxi. 1,500 baht and 90 minutes later, I was in Pattaya.

I'm currently staying at the Jasmine Hotel on Soi BJ which is adjacent to Walking Street. It costs 750 a night, is surprisingly quiet, and is right in the middle of the action. If you can't find a place, you could give Jasmine a try, I like it.

After a quick shower, I headed out to get dinner and some items. I ended up at the Beer Garden next to W. S. And had the Pad Kapraw. It was 160 baht and not nearly as good as what you can get from a street vendor for 50 baht. People are definitely paying for the atmosphere at the Beer Garden, but that alone might make me return. I ate it with a big smile on my face though because I was happy to be back in Pattaya!

After dinner, I stopped by a 7/11 and bought condoms, lube, RedBull, and snacks to help with the hangover I knew I'the get.

Finally, I was ready to start drinking! I hit a few bars on Walking Street and had a few beers while I waited for the gogo's to open. I met a nice Canadian bloke who told me about restoring cars. He has a Thai ex-wife, so I got to hear some stories of just how crazy they can get. Those stories make me proud of my bachelor lifestyle.

It appears that Walking Street is going through an identity crisis. Buildings are being torn up and replaced, shops are being closed, and entire spaces are left decaying. I think Walking Street is try to do what Las Vegas did in the late 90's and transform into fun for the whole family. It didn't work for Vegas, after a few years, it went back to being "Sin City" and I believe Walking Street will get back to its roots eventually. What really surprised me were the Chinese tour groups walking through before it was even dark. What is there worth seeing on Walking Street during the day? I don't know, but it seems like Chinese groups are taking it over 24/7.

The gogo's opened and I was the first customer in several. The nudity in the WS area is way down this year. Most of the smaller gogo's I visited only had two naked girls dancing while the rest wore clothes. The naked ones acted more like coyotes than the clothed one. I tried to barfine a hot one and she told me she wasn't allowed to leave. She immediately begged to meet me after closing though which I found odd. I bought her a lady drink and she was only allowed to sit with me for one song. The mamasan was working the two nude ones while basically ignoring the rest. This happened in a few of the places I visited. I don't really know what that's about, but it didn't bother me too much. The Windmill is still as good as I remember. I saw plenty of nudity there. Most experienced mongers avoid WS anyways, so I guess they won't miss much. I'll be checking LK Metro tomorrow so I'll let you know if the raunchiness has just been moved or if it's gone for a while.

I drank quickly at each gogo and really felt like a kid in a candy store. At the third or fourth stop, I popped a Cialis. Last year, I tried some I bought in Thailand and wasn't impressed. My friend gave me a dozen he had prescribed in America. The difference was night and day. The Thai ones weren't special, but the prescription ones from USA made me harder than a hammer. I could have used it like a battering ram. I don't know if I got fakes last year, or the new ones are just a higher dosage but I do know the ones I have now are powerful. I was ready to break down doors with my member last night. I don't know if I'll take anymore.

I drank until I was good and drunk then I hit Beach Road. The freelancers are still everywhere. I picked one with absolutely no conversation beforehand. I walked up to her, asked how much, accepted the opening offer of 1,000, and headed back to the hotel. She talked the entire way back to the hotel, I just smiled and nodded. I don't remember what all she talked about because I was drunk, but she acted sweet and kind.

Part 2.

I started writing this at Hooters; I ate some good wings and decided to check out the Beer Garden again. There is construction going on at the beer bars adjacent to the Beer Garden, so I get to listen to that mixed in with the old music pumped through the cheap speaker over my head.

My night took a turn for the confusing once I got back to the hotel. She took a quick shower then so did I. When she saw my Cialis infused meat hammer, so cringed and claimed I might be too big. Even the condoms I bought turned out to be too small. I had problems getting one on. After it was sufficiently shrink wrapped and lubed up, I gently entered the FL. I made sure to take it easy because I didn't want to hurt her. After a few slow minutes, the lube and motions made her enjoy the action. We stayed in missionary pretty much the entire time though. Here's where the weird part starts. I can usually last a good long time during sex; however, that Cialis and alcohol cocktail through my chemistry for a spin.

I thought I might finish then the feeling went away. I would go numb for a few seconds then it would come back like I was about to finish again. This happened a few times. I don't feel like I ever finished, but when I pulled out, I had shot. I literally had an orgasm without a climax. I don't know how it happened, and it's never happened to me before. She was soaking wet when we were through, so I knew I had hit a few good spots on her too. I tossed the rubber and sent her on her way. She was happy and I suppose I would have been to if I hadn't been so confused by the whole scene. I wouldn't repeat with her so I didn't bother to remember her name. It was around 1:00 am When I closed the door behind the happy FL. I dropped onto my bed and passed out.

I woke up at 5:30 with another raging erection. It felt like it was trying to slap the ceiling! I was already starting to feel the hangover, but my buddy demanded my attention more than the headache. I rolled out of bed and got on Wechat. Within 15 minutes, I had a girl in my room. I didn't try for sex with her and opted for a BJ instead. She was happy to oblige. I lay back on the bed and received a first class BBBJ. I lasted for almost four minutes before I released maybe the most porn star orgasm I've ever had. I shot rope after rope in her mouth, on her face, on her tits. I might have even got some on the wall behind me. It was insane! I'm still trying to make sense of the whole evening.

I'm about to head to Soi 6 and see if there is anything worth buying. I'll let you know how that turns out!

One last thing, I saw some Chinese men last night on Walking Street and they had the saddest looks on their faces. They saw all those girls for sale and they had to act uninterested because their family was with them. The looks of pure anguish on their faces gave me a seriously good laugh.

That's all for now, I'll update you all again tomorrow!

[Vivek]

Is it safe? Or scam? Have you or anybody tried it before?


I have the pussy for a whole week, she may not look like Miss Thailand but she does a really good job.

You can find the pussy http://www.thai-sexy-holiday.com/hostesses/lee/ or as not working there, she is freelancer in the Ibar and other discotheques in the area of walking street.

[Adrena]

Trip report 2017, Day 2.

I'm sitting at the Starbucks on Beach Road writing this report. I got really drunk again yesterday and had another great time!

After finishing my report yesterday, I went to Soi 6 and started day drinking. I ended up spending a lot of money on lady drinks and alcohol. Pattaya is a place where you can have fun with as little as 2,000 baht, but you could spend ten times that much at any given moment. I personally wasted about 4,000 baht just on drinks yesterday. I don't regret it, but I know I should pay more attention for the rest of the trip. The worst part is I didn't sleep with any of the girls I bought drinks for, LOL.

Soi 6 has more stunners this year than it did last year. I found a few spinners who had me drooling, but I was having too much fun. I couldn't stop partying long enough to have sex. Once again, I don't regret it, but I need to pay better attention for the rest of the trip.

After drinking my weight in San Miguel Light, I slowly made my way back towards my hotel adjacent to WS. I stopped at several Pattaya land marks on the way: the 5 star-bar, Club Nevada, and a few others. It was really cool seeing the old school pictures and meeting a gogo dancer who has been doing it since the early 90's. She literally had been dancing since Desert Storm. She was old and her skin hung from her body like old leather, yet she was the most entertaining girl I've met on this trip.

I finally got back to WS around 7:00 and prepared to hit some more gogo's. I absolutely love gogo's! I went into Baccara again last night. Every time I go in there, I promise it'll be my last. The girls are beautiful, but they blatantly ignore you unless you're Asian. Thankfully, Windmill and the others aren't like that.

After I reached my limit on beer, I walked out to Beach Road again and picked out a cute little girl who made me very happy. I walked by and she immediately jumped out as the best of the bunch. I thought she was a little short for me but I'the try her anyways. If you remember my last report, you'll know that Cialis gave me problems, so.

Last night I tried those Kamagra jelly packets. I like those a lot better. I was hard, but I wasn't a hammer like before.

What really struck me was when we got back to the room. I thought she was short before we talked, but when we got back to the room, she took off her six-inch heels. She was the shortest girl I've ever been with. She barely reached my chest. She has two children and the marks to prove it, so I know she's over 18. She has the hips of woman, but the height of a small blow up doll. Judging by her face and hips, I'the bet she was around 25.

Sadly, she wanted to take a shower on her own. That's the second time it's happened. Last year, all the girls wanted to take a shower together, this year they all want separate. Weird luck, I guess.

She also gave me the first CBJ I've ever had in Pattaya. Her oral skills weren't very good, so I didn't let her work for long. She climbed on top and gave a spirited ride until she was really wet then she leaned forward and begged me to fuck her. I rolled her over and worked from missionary for a few minutes before pulling her to edge of the bed and stood up. She stayed on her back while I stood at the edge. Her legs were up in the air, but they were so short my head was above her feet, LOL. I made sure not to go all the way in because I knew that might split her tiny frame in two. She was really tight too. I moved her back onto the bed after a few minutes than went back into missionary. I could feel her getting wetter and wetter. Then she started shaking in a weird way. It was like Michael J. Fox riding a vibrator shaking. She stopped fake moaning and started breathing in short rhythmic bursts. She dug her nails into my back and moved her hips to better position my dick. I saw her tense up and have a strong orgasm. She left a football sized wet mark on my sheets too. I wanted to keep going but I could tell she was done. Her fake moans were hot, but her real orgasm wasn't so sexy; funny how that works. We relaxed on my bed and she begged me for my line or phone number. I don't have either, so I had nothing to give. She begged me to see her again tonight for LT, but I doubt I will. She made me feel like a king, but there are too many fish in the sea and she didn't finish me. Instead, I finished her.

She said LT is 2,500. I don't know if that's a good deal or not since I only do ST, but you guys can use that number for future reference. I paid her 1,000 for ST and she was happy to have it. I haven't tried to negotiate with the BR girls, but it seems like the two I've had were quite happy with 1,000. I feel like I could have talked either down to 800, but bargaining is a huge turn off for me.

After she left, I was still raging hard so I called up the girl from the night before and had her come over and give me another amazing BBBJ. I came again, but it wasn't near as powerful as the night before. I paid her and sent her on her way. The two girls, one-cum arrangement has to stop; I'm going to find a real winner today and go until I explode. I've always wanted to try a BJ bar, so I might do that today. I haven't decided. My feet are also hurting from the massive amount of walking I've been doing, so I'm going to get a foot massage today. Those always make me really happy.

I also need to go to LK Metro. It seems like my to-do list isn't progressing as fast as I thought it would, but I'm on holiday so I don't want to rush anything.

That's all for now; if you want to meet up, get a membership and send me a message. I'll happily tour Pattaya with my fellow forum friends.

I'm off now to see what girls I can find, wish me luck!

[Adrena]

Trip Report 2017, Day 3.

I'm writing this report from the same Starbucks as yesterday. Truthfully, I'm too hungover to look for a new place. I am in a lot of pain right now. The last few days, I've fought off the hangover with caffeine and enthusiasm. But it's finally broken me. I'll be taking a break from alcohol and rowdy adventures today so tomorrow's report will be a little boring, sorry.

After finishing my report yesterday, I cruised around on baht buses and enjoyed the scenery. I had intended to get a foot massage but I couldn't find any girls who appealed to me. I'm sure the older ladies give the best foot massages, but I can't bring myself to have anything but a stunner touch me.

After wandering around aimlessly, I made my way back to Soi 6. Things got interesting there. I walked by a bar and saw two beautiful girls. They both demanded my attention as they drew me into their bar. Once inside, they had a bit of an argument. I know I'm not sexy enough to be the cause, so it must have been something else that set it off. It got heated enough that the mamasan had to yell at both of them. I was a little uncomfortable watching the whole thing, but I stuck around to finish my beer.

One of them stomped away, and the other one became overly loving towards me. She was all over me like a drunken prom date. She started kissing on my neck and grabbing my package. It really turned me on and made me opt for a ST. Once we showered and made our way to the bed, she started kissing my neck more aggressively and she kept begging me to fuck her. I didn't argue! I rolled on a condom and went to town. We hit plenty of positions and she was spirited through the whole encounter. After we both finished, we showered again and went back downstairs.

Once downstairs, the mamasan and the other girls started cheering and going crazy. They all pointed at my neck. It turns out; the girl had left huge marks on my neck. Right now, my neck looks like Dracula's wet dream! I don't know why she did it, other than maybe to mark her territory. The girl she had been arguing with was definitely not pleased. I should probably be angry about it but the story kind of makes the inconvenience worth it. So, if you see a tall, white, American in his 30's with huge bite marks on his neck, that's me. Feel free to say Hi!

After I left the bar, every girl I passed on Soi 6 pointed at my neck and did their usual "ooooooii" sound. On my stroll back towards the hotel, I stopped in at the Tahiti Queen and enjoyed another beer. All of the girls pointed and laughed. One sweet girl said she could help. She got some ice and a coin then started massaging the area. I wrapped my arms around her body and let her work. After leaving there, I went bar hopping for a few hours then headed to LK Metro.

I stopped by the Bronx Pizza for dinner and had a few slices. Bangkok 112 recommended that place in his videos so I decided to give it a try. He was right, that pizza is pretty good. It's definitely worth the 125 baht price for two slices.

After eating, I went to Climax and played pool with some older ladies. They all laughed at my neck and said the mosquitoes in Pattaya must be big. Since then, when someone asks about my neck, I just say mosquitoes. They have all found it quite hilarious so far.

I was the first customer in several of the gogo's on LK Metro. It seems like the gogo's there are more entertaining than the gogo's on WS. They are what WS gogo's were two years ago. I will visit some more before I go home. So far, The Office is my favorite in that area.

I got really drunk in LK Metro then made my way back towards my hotel. I stopped by Pheromone on WS too. I really like the direction the owners have taken with that place. I think it might be the best gogo on the actual WS; though Windmill is still my favorite in that area.

After Pheromone, I walked back out to BR and searched for a FL. I was really drunk by that time and didn't even feel like sex. I wanted to pass out instead. I went back to my room and called up the BJ girl from the last few nights. She was in my room within ten minutes. She asked why I never wanted sex, and I seriously contemplated it, but the room was spinning so I opted for another BJ instead. The third one was as good as the first. I paid her and sent her on her way. I've deleted her from my contacts so I'll stop relying on her. It's time for me to be more diverse with my orgasms.

Today's agenda will be pretty boring. I probably won't have much to report on tomorrow but I'll write one anyways. It seems like the forum is quiet, but I'll keep posting so you have something to read while you sit on the toilet.

[Ostevo]

I have a super late arrival in Pattaya, 2 am. Could someone tell me what my options are for finding a ST girl to get NE settled in.

[WildHawk]

...I made my way back to Soi 6. ... They all pointed at my neck. It turns out; the girl had left huge marks on my neck. Right now, my neck looks like Dracula's wet dream! I don't know why she did it, other than maybe to mark her territory. So, if you see a tall, white, American in his 30's with huge bite marks on his neck, that's me.ou sit on the toilet.Planning to tour Soi 6 next month. Enjoyed your report. This short, oldster American would definitely NOT want to return home with bite marks. I appreciate this ample warning.

[Banana Boi]

I have a super late arrival in Pattaya, 2 am. Could someone tell me what my options are for finding a ST girl to get NE settled in.Everything except Gentleman's clubs, Soi 6, and some massage shops are still open at 2 am. LK Metro gogo bars close at 3:30 am. WS gogo bars at 4 am. Bars all open til 3 am and after 3 am remain open without the music if still busy. Clubs like Hollywood, iBar, Red Car, many Thai bars in the Dark Siden, etc open much later. In other words, options still endless at 2 am.

[MusicalToM]

I'll share my experience in coming reports but before that wanted to say something- "Be careful with ultra-thin non-latex condoms".

I'm using this Poly-isoprene, non-latex, ultra-thin condom for some time and it gives me a super amazing experience when compared to latex condoms. You feel like wearing nothing!

But during my short stint around 3 weeks back faced a real stressful situation due to this condom. Usually my lady wears me the condom but that night she insisted me to do it, which I obliged. I guess I didn't wear it properly or whatever but the condom ruptured inside when I came. I took out the weapon to see half of the cover is with me and half inside her, it was like WTF just happened.

Anyway she is sort my GF and I know she is not having any STD, so from that point of view there is nothing to worry. It was quite late in the night so we decided to get the Emergency Contraception in the morning. I'm a bit worried even now while writing the report since she yet to get her period.

Long story short. These ultra-thin condoms are definitely value for the buck, but be a bit careful while wearing them, always remember to keep enough space on the tip of it which I think I missed that night. I would have been in a completely different situation if the lady that night would have been a WG, horrible!

Enjoy your mongering, I'll come with my reports in later posts.

[FL Hawk]

I'll share my experience in coming reports but before that wanted to say something- "Be careful with ultra-thin non-latex condoms".

I'm using this Poly-isoprene, non-latex, ultra-thin condom for some time and it gives me a super amazing experience when compared to latex condoms. You feel like wearing nothing!

But during my short stint around 3 weeks back faced a real stressful situation due to this condom. Usually my lady wears me the condom but that night she insisted me to do it, which I obliged. I guess I didn't wear it properly or whatever but the condom ruptured inside when I came. I took out the weapon to see half of the cover is with me and half inside her, it was like WTF just happened.

Anyway she is sort my GF and I know she is not having any STD, so from that point of view there is nothing to worry. It was quite late in the night so we decided to get the Emergency Contraception in the morning. I'm a bit worried even now while writing the report since she yet to get her period.

Long story short. These ultra-thin condoms are definitely value for the buck, but be a bit careful while wearing them, always remember to keep enough space on the tip of it which I think I missed that night. I would have been in a completely different situation if the lady that night would have been a WG, horrible!

Enjoy your mongering, I'll come with my reports in later posts.The only breakage problem I have had with the. 01 condoms have been with the Aoni brand, and those are latex. You have to keep her well lubricated with these. Even leaving room at the tip, I would find you would pile-drive your penis right through the tip if they dried out a bit. When I started adding lube the instant I noticed she was getting a little dry, the problem went went away.

But as reported last November, I have a heck of a time coming with any condom. I tried a bunch. Nothing worked well. In two weeks of mongering, I think I came only 2 or 3 times with a condom, and that was trying 2 to 4 times a day and not coming by any other method! I would be trying so hard and just fail, but on the few occasions I would then go in BB, each time I was able to come in literally 30 seconds. Strange, and quite frustrating.

Anyway, I recently visited a local area AMP. I took a Sagami Large with me. When I inserted, it actually felt great and rather than deliberately go slow and delay my coming (who wants to come too soon with a pretty Asian girl that you paid some bucks for) I went with the feelings, which were amazingly good, and came within a minute or two. Amazing. In Pattaya I tried several of these condoms with little luck, so why did they feel so good this time? Argh. Theoretically, I can see why they would feel better than the thinner condoms. The thin ones, made for the smaller Asian size, are tight. I had originally reasoned that being tight would mean they were thinner and, thus, I should feel even more, but I guess the tightness can be numbing. Not sure. But why I had no luck with them in Pattaya, and they felt so good at the AMP, beats me. I guess I need more research.

Anyway, I am starting to prepare to return to Pattaya in April / May, so I ordered some more of the Sagami Large, and they will be my primary condoms. The Large condoms are a bit smaller than western large condoms, and being poly-whatever they don't stretch a lot, but if you are average size or not too much thicker than medium-large, they should fit fine. My recommendation would be to order several types off Ebay and try them out.

I know one guy loves the Pasante, which are. 01's non-latex. I like the theory, as they slide on and they have a loose fit for my size, but due to the manufacturing process to make them slide on, are full of wrinkles. I tried them with one girl and she did not like the feeling. For a larger man it might work better. I may try them again though.

[Adrena]

Trip Report 2017, Day 4.

I'm writing this report from the statue in front of the Hilton Hotel. The sun is coming up over the buildings and hitting the water nicely. I think it'll be a beautiful day. Yesterday was supposed to be a day of relaxation but it turned into another memorable experience.

After finishing my last report, I sought out a foot massage. I walked along the Soi's in hopes of finding one. Fortunately, I found a lovely girl next to the Far East Rock agogo on Soi 10/2. She had curvy hips and round tits. I couldn't refuse her cat call for "massage".

Once inside, she gave a passable foot massage while "accidentally" brushing her nice breasts against my legs. I was quite hard after 20 minutes and accepted her offer of an oil massage. We went up a few flights of stairs and into a private massage room, which had its own shower. I washed up and lay on the table. Her foot massages aren't bad, but her oil massage was terrible. I think she learned how to give massages by watching YouTube videos. I finally encouraged her to undress and received a sad surprise. Gravity had beaten the beautiful out of her a long time ago. Her breasts sagged heavily and her baby marks were quite pronounced. Victoria's Secret worked miracles on that girl.

Now, I want to give you all some insight. Kamagra Jelly stays in your system. I didn't know this until I entered the girl. Even with the condom on, the sensation was incredible! I felt like I was getting a BJ, HJ, and sex all at the same time. She didn't even feel overly tight either; that's how I knew the medicine lingers in your system. I released with her much faster than expected. I rinsed off and left without much small talk. She was a nice girl, but worn out is an understatement. I paid 200 for foot massage, 300 for oil massage, and 1000 for FS. Total cost: 1500 baht.

After the experience, I headed back to Hooters for lunch. I usually try to eat at different places for each meal but I rarely get Hooters at home. I actually like some of their food. It is super expensive compared to other places though. I paid 500 baht for some wings and water. I won't be eating there again this trip, but I enjoyed that meal very much.

After lunch, I relaxed at a few different beer bars on Beach Road and enjoyed watching the world fly by. I've gotten really good at shooing away the thousands of hawkers who try to sell the same tired merchandise. I've become good enough that I barely notice them now, so they aren't as annoying as my first year here. I learned how to say "I don't want" in Thai and it's been extremely useful. I recommend you learn that before your next trip.

I drank the beer slowly and tried to not push myself like I have the last few days. It resulted in a much more relaxing day. I still have a frat boy mentality towards drinking. I need to be more mature in the future; though it helps when you have a hangover guiding the way.

When the sun set, I made my way back to the LK Metro area and played pool with some nice older ladies. They aren't very cute, but have great personalities.

Banana Boi sent me a message suggesting I check out Ninja agogo and Fahrenheit. Both of those places were very disappointing. Ninja had two tiers of girls; one tier would get nude, while the others stayed clothed. I hate that! The nude ones weren't ugly, but I really liked one who stayed clothed. I left after one drink. After that, I went to Fahrenheit. It was also very disappointing. There were 16 girls on stage, only one was topless. I left there after one drink as well. Maybe I went too early?

After that, I hopped around a few different places. In one of the gogo's I saw two girls dancing with star tattoos over their nipples. Both of them had little doctor's booklets in their hands at all times, even when they danced. I tried to ask one why she had a little doctor book and she never answered. Anybody have any insight on this? Why did the only two girls with star tattoos on their nipples carry doctor booklets? HIV? Proof they were clean? I don't know.

I headed back to my room around 10 and got some much needed sleep. I only spent about 4000 baht yesterday, and 2,000 of it was on girls and Hooters.

I feel much better today, though the Kamagra and Cialis are still in my system. I keep getting raging erections every few minutes. It has made walking a little embarrassing.

I'm off to get breakfast and then head to Soi 6. I'll let you know what happens!

[Adrena]

Trip Report 2017, Day 5.

I'm writing this from a breakfast place on Second Road. I'm not entirely sure the name of the restaurant, but it's across from the school near Walking Street. I don't know how you wackos can remember each girl's name so easily. I'm having trouble remembering what day it is.

Yesterday was another awesome day. After finishing my last report, I walked around and continued exploring. Sadly, my feet are absolutely ruined right now. They hurt so bad that I don't even want to move. On the bright side, the marks on my neck are almost completely gone now.

I started day drinking and ended up at Soi 6 while they were opening the bars. I relaxed at one and watched the street slowly wake up. The girl who gave me the marks on my neck was there and was being very insistent that I go with her again. I shrugged her off with the usual, "I go get food" excuse. Many other girls recognized me as I walked by and made me a little self-conscious.

I also ended up at my very first BJ bar yesterday. It was a surreal experience. I really love BJ's. I find them more relaxing than sex, so the change is nice. The girl was older but I didn't mind. We chatted for a few minutes then headed inside. I sat back on the couch and drank my beer while she worked my rod. It wasn't the best BJ I've ever had, but it definitely wasn't the worst either. I came in about five minutes.

After the BJ, I decided to avoid the vampire girl which meant a stroll down the infamous 6/1. That street is shady. I don't mean shady in the way that it's covered with scary ladyboys. I mean it's shady because there are a lot of trees over hanging the street providing a lot of shade. Some of the beefy ladyboys made attempts to grab me, but I dodged them as expertly as I could. They are usually a little grabby and I've just come to expect it, but they are actually aggressive on that street. You need to keep your eyes straight and your stride fast.

I hopped on a baht bus and headed back towards Walking Street. Next to WS, there are some legit massage places. Ones where the women are old but actually know what they are doing. I stopped in there and received a first-class foot massage from a nice older lady. The difference between her massage and the last girl felt like night and day.

I ended up back in my room by 7 pm And I felt tired. I got on Wechat and found a beautiful girl within 100 meters of my hotel. We chatted to each other and she was in my room 25 minutes later. It would have been sooner but she got lost.

She had a great body and nicely done fake tits. They looked real at first glance but you could feel the implants once you started to play. The Kamagra in my system and the BJ from earlier left me with a raging erection, but the stamina of a porn star. I nailed her in many positions and gave her multiple orgasms. We went through three condoms and two waters. I finally finished after more than an hour of pounding. She claimed she was too tired to walk and offered to give me a discount for LT which I declined. She was lovely but I don't like sleeping next to people.

I sent her on her way with 1,000 baht and then showered. I fell asleep around 10 pm And slept almost all night without waking up which is an achievement for me.

I've started to fall into a routine which is something I want to avoid. I'm going to change it up today. I need to keep things fresh before I get bored. I will try to do something new during the day today. I'm not sure what to do though. I am woefully ignorant of Pattaya day-time activities. I guess I'll just do some research.

I think I'll also hit iBar and Insomnia tonight. I'm not much of a club person, but I've never been there. I might as well give it a try and see what happens. I never thought I'the say this, but I'm a little tired of gogo's. I've seen so many tits this week that they are all blending together now.

Also, I know my reports have been getting shorter and I'm sorry about that. Everything is a blur here and it's difficult to remember exact details. It's like waking up from a great dream, but trying to remember the details of it an hour later.

I have no idea what I'll do today, but I'll make sure to keep you all posted.

[Banana Boi]

Banana Boi sent me a message suggesting I check out Ninja agogo and Fahrenheit. Both of those places were very disappointing. Ninja had two tiers of girls; one tier would get nude, while the others stayed clothed. I hate that! The nude ones weren't ugly, but I really liked one who stayed clothed. I left after one drink. After that, I went to Fahrenheit. It was also very disappointing. There were 16 girls on stage, only one was topless. I left there after one drink as well. Maybe I went too early?Sorry didn't realize ALL girls nude was the criteria. Even at Windmill many girls cover up something but we all know Windmill talent is not the best. Even at their sister club Sugar Baby not all girls are nude. Not sure their is even another Pattaya club where girls are all nude or even topless. Not even other dirtier clubs like Electric Blue and Wildcats but again not top talent.

Not sure what time you visited. LK Metro clubs generally only require 5 hour shifts meaning girls show up at 10 pm. You are definitely correct the non-nude girls at Ninja are far better than the nude ones. Imo the only pretty topless girl at Ninja is Amm with her spectacular tits (see girl in black in photo).

16 girls at Fahrenheit? Up until before Christmas there were 3 groups of 25-30 girls each. This number and talent level dropped significantly over Christmas and after New Year but I was expecting it to be back to normal now. Maybe it was an early Japanese barfine sweep night?

[Broxy]

Hi Adrena,

Really enjoying reading your reports in report 5 you mention you go in BJ bar was it on Soi 6 and which one was it? You also talk about Kamagra jell and Cialis which pharmacy you use and how much do you pay? I hope to be back there in May and this info would be a great help Carry on your reports and thanks.

[Syzygies]

Sorry didn't realize ALL girls nude was the criteria. Even at Windmill many girls cover up something but we all know Windmill talent is not the best. Even at their sister club Sugar Baby not all girls are nude. Not sure their is even another Pattaya club where girls are all nude or even topless. Not even other dirtier clubs like Electric Blue and Wildcats but again not top talent.
Ha ha. Funny. Would be great if there was a bar with all girls nude, all of the time. LOL It is not exactly legal in Thailand. Girls have sometimes had panties wrapped around their ankles or wrists for ease of putting on quickly when a police raid is coming (in Bangkok).

At one time Suzi Wong bar in Bangkok changed over to insist that all girls on the stage had to dance naked, after some particular time of night. However they would always put gear back on when getting off the stage. Crazy House has the advantage of many girls willing to stay naked when off the stage, but some girls never were naked. Looks like we can't have it everyway. Some guys prefer the mystery of girls wearing something. Japanese guys sometimes prefer to furtively look up the skirt of girls with no knickers underneath. So variety is the best compromise. I like to see the sag, the tats, the piercings shrapnel, the silicones, the pussy fur, etc. Or rather the lack of it preferably.

[Adrena]

Hi Adrena,

Really enjoying reading your reports in report 5 you mention you go in BJ bar was it on Soi 6 and which one was it? You also talk about Kamagra jell and Cialis which pharmacy you use and how much do you pay? I hope to be back there in May and this info would be a great help Carry on your reports and thanks.I can't remember which bar it was. I'll be on Soi 6 again today, so I'll look at find out.

I got the Cialis from a friend but you can buy it here at any pharmacy. The same with the Kamagra jelly. I strolled into a random pharmacy, asked for it, and paid 100 baht per packet. I've done this at a few different pharmacies. I know buying an entire box is much cheaper, but there is no way I'll go through 50 of them during this trip. I don't really want to take them on a plane either.

Banana boi, I know all the gogo's aren't fully nude. I wish they were too, LOL.

I do want to see at least a few topless girls in the place. Seeing all the girls on stage wearing more clothes than you see on the beach is a bummer.

That's why I like the other bars better. We all have our own preferences though.

[Banana Boi]

For 1 lady drink you can have the cute clothed girl topless and groping her tits while she DFK's you. That's why imo girls don't need to be topless in a bar.

[FreebieFan]

Trip Report 2017, Day 3.


Once downstairs, the mamasan and the other girls started cheering and going crazy. They all pointed at my neck. It turns out; the girl had left huge marks on my neck. Right now, my neck looks like Dracula's wet dream! I don't know why she did it, other than maybe to mark her territory. The girl she had been arguing with was definitely not pleased. I should probably be angry about it but the story kind of makes the inconvenience worth it. So, if you see a tall, white, American in his 30's with huge bite marks on his neck, that's me. Feel free to say Hi!


.One had the same thing happen to me in Angeles with an overly enthusiastic provider. Took a few days to dissapear. Did some research after the fact and if yuo take the top of a chap stick tube, and rub the affected area (scrape rub etc) it makes the offending mark dissapear faster. I guess any tube top could work but the chap stick top has been my go to method for the occasional repeat neck munching effects that occurs time to time. .

[Vivek]

For 1 lady drink you can have the cute clothed girl topless and groping her tits while she DFK's you. That's why imo girls don't need to be topless in a bar.Really for 1 Lady drink, gal will take her top off in go go bar? For how much time?. Like in which bar?. I have noticed that even if she is fully clothed and sitting next to you. They keep demanding lady drinks every 5 minutes for herself or other staff.

[Adrena]

Trip Report 2017 Day 6.

I took some more time off on day 6. I really pushed myself hard trying to reach numbers so day 6 was a day of relaxation instead. I didn't do much. I ate at a few new places and saw a movie. The movie was that new Vin Diesel movie, XXX. It was the worst movie I've ever seen in theaters. It was so bad that I considered leaving half way into it. It was the next movie showing when I went so I picked it. That was a huge mistake. LOL.

Oh well. I at least had a good day to enjoy Thailand instead of chasing tail.

Day 7.

After day 6, I was fully energized and ready to destroy some girls, and that's exactly what I did!

I started day drinking at the beer bars near Hooters and pounded probably 7 beers before noon. After that, I went to Soi 6 and watched it open up. It doesn't really get going before 2 pm So plan your day accordingly. I got super drunk before 2 pm And took another Kamagra Jelly packet. It really lit me up. I was ready to fuck anything. I started playing pool with a rather unattractive girl who had a lot of personality. I broke down and took her because it was convenient. Once upstairs, we showered and started fooling around. She had more stretch marks than any girl I've ever seen before. She must have given birth to a fucking basketball. I was too drunk to care.

I rolled on a condom and started slowly. She was really into the action and got wet with ease. I did my signature move and pulled her to the edge of the bed then pounded from that position. She got really wet and started grinding her hips into me. She had an intense orgasm and started squirting everywhere. Here is the bad thing, she was squirting cum and blood mixed. It went everywhere! I had induced her period with my dick. This isn't the first time it's happened. My entire stomach was covered, not to mention my dick and legs. I ran to the bathroom and cleaned up. I don't have any open wounds and the condom didn't break so I'm not overly worried about STI's, but my body looked like it was from a horror movie.

During the clean-up, she kept say she was sorry. It made the encounter awkward. I never finished and my drunken erection wanted more.

I paid 1000 plus 300 for the room then left. When I walked by later, she wasn't there. Guess she started a five day vacation because of my dick.

I drank some more then made a mistake. I walked up to a cute girl and immediately said short time. I didn't chat or act friendly at all. She said yes but turned out to be the worst sex I've had this trip. I should have seen if there was chemistry before we started but I was too drunk and horny. It was stupid. I won't make that mistake again. I didn't finish with her either.

I made my way back to Walking Street and my hotel. I crashed onto my bed and felt the room spin while cruising Wechat for a BJ princess. I found an average looking lady after sifting through about 30 ladyboy profiles. It seems like they dominate that social media. I was actually tricked once. I thought it was a girl for sure, but was told otherwise before accepting an offer, close call!

If you get confused, just politely ask. They will usually tell you before you need to ask, but better safe than sorry.

Anyways, the girl showed up at my hotel and gave me a very frustrating BJ. She would go for about 30 seconds then stop then start again. It was like sadistic teasing. I finally grabbed the back of her head and encouraged her to continue without stopping. After about two minutes of working, I got off.

She got 1000 and a free water. She wasn't worth a tip. I almost would have rather jerked off.

I passed out after she left. It was 7 or 8 at night. I drank about 15 beers and my tolerance isn't what it used to be. I got a decent night's sleep and I'm not hungover like I expected.

Some side notes.

The name of the BJ bar I visited is "My Friend You" bar.

The name of the bar where I got the bite marks is "Night Wish" bar.

Kamagra Jelly is available at any pharmacy, 100 baht a packet. I suggest trying them at least once.

I still haven't made it to iBar or Insomnia. I hope it happens eventually.

Funny side stories.

Yesterday, I was walking down Soi 6 and this ladyboy blocked my way and got really insistent. She had a great rack and I was drunk, so I started groping her tits right in the middle of the street, LOL. I expected her to be offended and move, but she just stood there laughing. Where else in the world can you publicly grope tranny tits and nobody cares? Pattaya is truly a unique place! I stopped as soon as she tried pulling me into her bar. I'll definitely have to avoid her for the next few days.

I also groped a mamasan! I was playing pool and she wanted to take a few shots while the other girl went to the WC. The mamasan grabbed my package and I responded by grabbing her large ass. It was a pretty interesting moment. I'm pretty sure I got a handful of her tits too. She seemed to enjoy it a lot; I know I enjoyed the experience. I guess they like being reminded they are women too. I was mostly sober when that happened, so it wasn't a drunken Farang thing like we've all seen before.

Two more days then I'm leaving Pattaya. This place is like a dream, but it feels almost time to wake up. I get bored here, especially during the day. It would be nice if I worked here, but just 24 hours of down-time is too much. I don't know how retirees handle the free time. I guess they have hobbies to keep them busy. If I lived here, I'the probably start a YouTube channel like Kev or Bangkok112. Who knows?

[Banana Boi]

Really for 1 Lady drink, gal will take her top off in go go bar? For how much time?. Like in which bar?. I have noticed that even if she is fully clothed and sitting next to you. They keep demanding lady drinks every 5 minutes for herself or other staff.Almost every gogo bar on Walking Street or LK except the ones ruined by the Japanese (Baccara, Sensations, Happy, etc.).

Just to clarify the girl's don't necessarily take their tops fully off rather my hands are in their tops under their bras. That along with DFK are a requirement on drink 1 and the girls all know it. It may be different for me since I live in Pattaya and the girls and wait staff all know me

Yes some girls try for another drink in 10 minutes but my rule of thumb is 2-4 drinks per hour, depending on the girl. I never buy drinks for their 'sisters' or wait staff unless they are hot and I have intentions to barfine them. Don't let girls convince you otherwise. You get no value added being a nice guy buying drinks for everyone. In fact, you are labelled as an easy target with money or a good heart and will be asked more for LT. .

[GreenBud]

In go-go bars that allows nudity, the level of nudity (bikini, topless or all nude) determines her monthly salary. It is up to the girl.


Really for 1 Lady drink, gal will take her top off in go go bar?Yes. Sometimes the girls will already be topless. Even if she has a top on, you usually can slide your hand up and fondle her breast. For some girls, you can even fondle her pussy, although some will say, "not here, in the room".


For how much time?This definitely is YMMV. It all depends on the girl. On average, between 5 to 15 minutes. Note she has to go and dance on her shift, so you need to get her right after she dances, if you want a lot of time.


Like in which bar?So many bars. But YMMV. Last night, I had fun in G-Spot and Crazy House.

Did I mention I really really like Pattaya. I like to have a cold beer and look at and fondle young pretty girls! All for the price of my beer (it seems many bars now have happy hour draft beers for the entire night) and a 150 baht lady drink.

[Banana Boi]

Note she has to go and dance on her shift, so you need to get her right after she dances, if you want a lot of time.Excellent point. Always learn the stage rotation in a club. Many girls will finish off their drinks immediately before their stage time hoping you will buy a drink for them to pull them off stage again. I let those girls stay on stage and possibly get a different girl while they are on stage. Waving a girl off stage gives you the maximum time with a girl until their next set.


In go-go bars that allows nudity, the level of nudity (bikini, topless or all nude) determines her monthly salary. It is up to the girl.

Different drink prices as well. For example at Glass House it's 140 baht for a clothed gogo girl and 200 for a topless "model". Nothing to do with looks just the amount of clothing they wear on stage. In general as Adrena pointed out at Ninja the younger, prettier ones usually keep their clothes on.

[FunExplorer]

Really for 1 Lady drink, gal will take her top off in go go bar? For how much time?. Like in which bar?. I have noticed that even if she is fully clothed and sitting next to you. They keep demanding lady drinks every 5 minutes for herself or other staff.How much time you can actually manage with DFK and 'handle her boobs' ? Depends entirely upon your still but with one drink it is possible to take it some 15 o 20 minutes. Of course, they keep demanding drinks and you have to skillfully manage not to get as often as demanded!

[CallSign Papa]

It just might save your life, unlike this unlucky bastard:

http://pattayaone.news/en/foreigner-killed-falling-tree-branch/

[NickMehta]

Haha, very funny but a good report. Your experience at Galaxy club is what we usually refer to as the price of tuition. That's how we learn, from our mistakes and especially when we pay dearly. BTW, if you like Russian chicks, go to the German FKKs, plenty of them and cheaper, at 50 Euros per session. Plenty of Indians there too, even some Indian providers can be found there. But the service from Russian chicks is the same all over the world, chitty. I learned the hard way too.Thanks for the suggestion! Heard about FKKs; never been to Germany though.

Had a great time in Amsterdam's RLD a few years back with a Russian gal, but generally they tends to be meh.


Nice report Nick, keep them coming.Thank for the encouragement. Next post will be up soon.


It seems some things never change. Galaxy was a ripoff a few years ago (see my earlier post) as it is now. It is amazing to see Indians getting sucked into Galaxy because of the "white" skin addiction.Yup! It is amazing! Inferiority complex carried over from the days of the 'white' rulers! Now, we just want to pay some money and fuck white skinned chicks.

[Vivek]

Thanks for answers to my previous post. In most Pattaya open air bars (with girls of course), what's the menu like? You get only drinks like beers or you can get food / starters like peanuts, chips, french fries etc? You can order soft drinks also in bars like coke or fresh fruit juices after a couple of beers? And as far as bar girls are concerned you can play with her boobs or thighs while enjoying beer in bar? Or that is supposed to be done only in room? Is there any swingers bar in Pattaya where there is sex party or orgy going on?. The kind of which we see in porn sites? I heard there is Rama Kien resort which has or had that kind of parties in weekends. Is it still on? As we all know Chan resort is a naturist resort in Pattaya.

[Eszpresszo]

It just might save your life, unlike this unlucky bastard:

http://pattayaone.news/en/foreigner-killed-falling-tree-branch/You could die a in a much worse situation. A "natural death" in the Western world often means an extended stay in a healthcare facility. We are told we need to plan for that, because retirement is supposed to be more expensive than working, for the reason of medical expenses.

I'll take the falling tree branch in Thailand, thank you. I don't want to spend the days of my life, just hoping and praying death will take me out of some hellhole.

[IllusionHeart]

It just might save your life, unlike this unlucky bastard:

http://pattayaone.news/en/foreigner-killed-falling-tree-branch/This is a pure case of Jealousy. 91 year old walking and enjoying in Pattaya and had a girlfriend as well. Guess the God's couldn't handle it and pulled the plug on him.

May he RIP.