Pattaya Reports

[Adrena]

I travel so much that I automatically convert currency numbers. I now keep up with five currencies, but that's only because of work obligations. If you only travel from your home country to another country then back home, stating it from your bank's currency seems logical.

However, the general rule-of-thumb for currency is, state the currency of the destination unless speaking to a fellow countryman.

The only exception to that rule is speaking with long term ex-pats. In which case, location currency is preferred.

I won't begrudge anybody who states their own country's currency. It's a natural tendency, even though it isn't the best etiquette.

At least you aren't trying to shake hands using your left. Now that's an unforgivable offense!

[FL Hawk]

I get by with 4000-5000 per day (exclusive of hotel, which I prepay by credit card) and am very comfortable. But I am in my 60's and not the firecracker stud I was 30 years ago. Now most days I just drink and flirt with the girls, maybe hang on the beach or the hotel pool a bit, get a foot massage, whatever.We are close in age, but I sure don't let my age hold me back regarding mongering activities! I will average close to 3 girls a day over a 10-day stay, ideally with a mix of Soi 6, BR FL, WS FL and gogo girls. No, I hardly come with them all. I wish! But one just has to decide what they want to do. A typical newbie, and remember we are talking about newbies, will probably be fine with 6000 a day. But if said newbie thinks they will be drinking a ton and wants to live on Soi 6 during the day and bring home the hottest of the hot from WS for LT each night, then he may want to bring twice this amount. For me, I will bring $2000 per week for mongering and misc expenses (no hotel). That is usually twice what I will spend, but if I decide to hit up DD for a couple of three ways, and hit up Sky Fall or Peppermint a couple of times a week for LT, I will be prepared. Better to bring cash home than run out of cash and have to curtail your activities. So, newbies, add up the prices to fulfill your dream, double it, and you will be fine. For those with limited funds and who don't know if they will ever be able to come back, bring as much as you can and do all you can!

As far a rules go, I think we are going overboard. The "rules" shouldn't tell us what we have to do, IMHO. I think the intention is simply to give some guidance to newbies to help them out.

[Horatio]

We are close in age, but I sure don't let my age hold me back regarding mongering activities! I will average close to 3 girls a day over a 10-da.That would exhaust me.

[ThatGuy68]

In my 10 day holiday I had planned 3 in Bangkok and 7 in Pattaya. After Avani changed guest policy I got a refund and rebooked refundable tickets to give flexibility which was advice from one of you. After Kevin in Thailand video today I've been looking into Phuket and Hua Hin. I'm thinking about doing 4 or 5 days in Phuket instead. I'm a younger guy looking for younger ladies. I'm 25 and not into older women at all. A week of hot 18 year old would be ideal. Would everyone agree here Phuket would be a better option for the 18-23 age bracket? All the information and videos I've looked at seems lot hotter / younger ladies in Phuket.

[Blanquiceleste]

In my 10 day holiday I had planned 3 in Bangkok and 7 in Pattaya. After Avani changed guest policy I got a refund and rebooked refundable tickets to give flexibility which was advice from one of you. After Kevin in Thailand video today I've been looking into Phuket and Hua Hin. I'm thinking about doing 4 or 5 days in Phuket instead. I'm a younger guy looking for younger ladies. I'm 25 and not into older women at all. A week of hot 18 year old would be ideal. Would everyone agree here Phuket would be a better option for the 18-23 age bracket? All the information and videos I've looked at seems lot hotter / younger ladies in Phuket.Good luck with that idea.

IMHO Bangkok has the best potential for babging the top 18 yo hotties.

[Adrena]

In my 10 day holiday I had planned 3 in Bangkok and 7 in Pattaya. After Avani changed guest policy I got a refund and rebooked refundable tickets to give flexibility which was advice from one of you. After Kevin in Thailand video today I've been looking into Phuket and Hua Hin. I'm thinking about doing 4 or 5 days in Phuket instead. I'm a younger guy looking for younger ladies. I'm 25 and not into older women at all. A week of hot 18 year old would be ideal. Would everyone agree here Phuket would be a better option for the 18-23 age bracket? All the information and videos I've looked at seems lot hotter / younger ladies in Phuket.First off, FLHawk, you are a monster and a freak of nature. Bagging 3 girls a day, every day, for more than a week? I get tired even thinking about that!

On my last trip, two soi 6 girls offered to take me upstairs for a threesome. I declined because I was so tired. I was sucking down Kamagra on that trip too. You are an absolute beast.

ThatGuy68, Phuket is a poor choice for mongers if you want young working girls. Phuket gets a huge amount of foreign Thai fighters training in Chalong, and bunch of backpackers visiting for a few days. The young girls there have adjusted their game to match the clients. You'll find the girl / guy ratio very unfavorable when compared to Bangkok or Pattaya. (there is still plenty of love to be had, but it isn't as good as the previously mentioned locations).

If you are looking for the best girls, and don't mind paying, go to Bangkok.

You mentioned Kev-In-Thailand's newest video. I watched it as well. He makes several good points, but he also adds that Pattaya isn't dead quite yet. If it's your first time, you'll love it! If it's your tenth time, you might be a little heartbroken. Either way, you'll still get laid.

Don't give up on Pattaya yet. I think it still has a few good kicks left.

[Mogwai]

Is 24 only applicable to current environment? Or does that go for every aspect of the trip? If 24 is for every aspect, your numbers contradict each other.

What if the first-timer hate eating pussy? I love eating pussy, but have no desire to put my tongue anywhere near the snatch of a Pattaya girl.

In my case, should I follow rule 23 or should I follow 24 and do what suits me?

I'd never feel comfortable telling a monger what to do once the door is closed. We are all freaks in this forum. Any sexual advice is likely to start tons of arguments.

24 is a good addition to that list, but I think 23 should be rewritten in a broader sense.

23. Keep the girls happy and they'll keep you happy?Fair enough. I didn't realize my tips could contradict each other.

But I'm wondering why you don't like to lick the pussies of Pattaya girls. Most of them are very fresh and clean. Are you afraid of STD's?
In my experience the sex is better if you DATY them. They get hornier and you don't need lube.

[MrManGuy]

25 a bit young for a monger. You won't find enough girls in your age group. For me I prefer 18 or 19 to but I am still attracted to women all the way up to age 35 and beyond. Women in their late 20s are still young to me and worth paying for.

[UltraHappy]

I understand that Walking Street must close at 3 am now. What time do the bars there generally open for business? What time will I find a decent number of girls showing up in the bars? Just trying to understand my window for play time. I see lots of posts about people reporting about activities on Walking Street but nothing about Walking Street's opening time.

I understand that Soi 6 now opens at 6 pm and closes at 3 am, I guess I'll cross that place off my list for daytime activity. One YouTube video I saw said that some of the bars on Soi 6 were open earlier than 6 pm but only serving soft drinks. That's fine with me if there are girls available, but another recent YouTube video I watched showed Soi 6 as a deserted ghost town with all the bars shuttered up during the day time. So, are the beer bars there opening a few hours earlier than 6 pm but serving soft drinks?

[Mogwai]

Ok 382 baht.Cheap charlie.

[Dive Monger]

We are close in age, but I sure don't let my age hold me back regarding mongering activities! I will average close to 3 girls a day over a 10-day stay, ideally with a mix of Soi 6, BR FL, WS FL and gogo girls. No, I hardly come with them all. I wish! But one just has to decide what they want to do. A typical newbie, and remember we are talking about newbies, will probably be fine with 6000 a day. But if said newbie thinks they will be drinking a ton and wants to live on Soi 6 during the day and bring home the hottest of the hot from WS for LT each night, then he may want to bring twice this amount. For me, I will bring $2000 per week for mongering and misc expenses (no hotel). That is usually twice what I will spend, but if I decide to hit up DD for a couple of three ways, and hit up Sky Fall or Peppermint a couple of times a week for LT, I will be prepared. Better to bring cash home than run out of cash and have to curtail your activities. So, newbies, add up the prices to fulfill your dream, double it, and you will be fine. For those with limited funds and who don't know if they will ever be able to come back, bring as much as you can and do all you can!

As far a rules go, I think we are going overboard. The "rules" shouldn't tell us what we have to do, IMHO. I think the intention is simply to give some guidance to newbies to help them out.Completely agree.

[Dive Monger]

I understand that Walking Street must close at 3 am now. What time do the bars there generally open for business? What time will I find a decent number of girls showing up in the bars? Just trying to understand my window for play time. I see lots of posts about people reporting about activities on Walking Street but nothing about Walking Street's opening time.

I understand that Soi 6 now opens at 6 pm and closes at 3 am, I guess I'll cross that place off my list for daytime activity. One YouTube video I saw said that some of the bars on Soi 6 were open earlier than 6 pm but only serving soft drinks. That's fine with me if there are girls available, but another recent YouTube video I watched showed Soi 6 as a deserted ghost town with all the bars shuttered up during the day time. So, are the beer bars there opening a few hours earlier than 6 pm but serving soft drinks?When I was there in June, every day there was one or two police raids on Soi 6; the demand was that they not be open during the day, only letting in customers for a drink after 6 PM. Made me monumentally pissed off. So next time I'm in Pattaya, I'll need to find a replacement for afternoon activities. My body just does not do well sleeping for 8 hours more after the sun comes up so I can party and drink from 7 PM until 3 AM before going home. This one thing in and of itself is IMHO one of the worst things to happen in quite a long time.

[UltraHappy]

When I was there in June, every day there was one or two police raids on Soi 6; the demand was that they not be open during the day, only letting in customers for a drink after 6 PM. Made me monumentally pissed off. So next time I'm in Pattaya, I'll need to find a replacement for afternoon activities. My body just does not do well sleeping for 8 hours more after the sun comes up so I can party and drink from 7 PM until 3 AM before going home. This one thing in and of itself is IMHO one of the worst things to happen in quite a long time.What about Walking Street? What time do those clubs open and get going? Can I go to Walking Street and get action during the day or do I also have to wait for evening there also?

[Rob Jones]

Hi guys,

I am really loving the reports of late about the Pattaya scene in general. I have never been to Thailand before, but I have had short visits to Indonesia, and I am finding same same but different. I think the main difference's are the religious cultures of both countries with the majority Muslim Indonesia a bit more modest in public. I still need to RTFF a lot more but I am really enjoying the insights and I can't wait until February.

Thanks.

[FL Hawk]

First off, FLHawk, you are a monster and a freak of nature. Bagging 3 girls a day, every day, for more than a week? I get tired even thinking about that!

Well, if I could release each time then perhaps I might be considered a beast, but those familiar with my reports know I have great difficulties releasing into a bag, so I am not a beast. Most any reasonably healthy man can get it up a few times during the day and do what I did, which is quite easy on Soi 6. Just start on one side of the street, pick a girl, then after her pick out another one and, after her, even pick out a third. It is not a huge deal. Don't ever-exert too much and simply enjoy being with a pretty young girl. I do think the frustration of not be able to come with one makes you want to try again! But I am not a beast!

[SilverSurfie]

Hey gents,

Been a while since I've been on the site and I'm actually planning a trip to Thailand (Bangkok and Pattaya) later in the year. So far I have penciled in Nov 1 - 15 on me flying out there. I remember another ISG member mentioning he was planning on going out around that time but mentioned something about getting wet in Oct, will it be dry by Nov? Also another ISG post mentioned around mid-late Nov the selection starts picking up as the girls start flocking in will Nov 1- 15th be too early? Thanks for the tips.

[Mogwai]

I understand that Walking Street must close at 3 am now. What time do the bars there generally open for business? What time will I find a decent number of girls showing up in the bars? Just trying to understand my window for play time. I see lots of posts about people reporting about activities on Walking Street but nothing about Walking Street's opening time.The bars in Walking Street generally open around 8 pm, some of them maybe a little bit earlier or later.
I usually go there around 9 pm when there are a decent number of girls and customers already, certainly in high season.

[Adrena]

Well, Soi 6 used to be my favorite spot to day drink. Now that it's gone, where do you all think is the best place to get a cold one during the early afternoon?

Here are a few places I can think of: Hooters, 5-star bar, Tahiti Queen, That beer bar complex on BR, and the beer bar complex near the entrance to WS.

Where is your favorite places to get a cheap beer and watch people walk by?

I'm entirely open to new places, but I would prefer to watch the waves and beautiful girls.

[ItIsMe83]

For those that know the place: The owner (and his Thai wife) of 'Hoek van Holland' in Jomtien has been murdered this week in Amsterdam (reasons unknown). Owner was apparently well known in Pattaya for his bar but also for his Thai Boxing events.

[Uncle Volodya]

Well, Soi 6 used to be my favorite spot to day drink. Now that it's gone, where do you all think is the best place to get a cold one during the early afternoon?

Here are a few places I can think of: Hooters, 5-star bar, Tahiti Queen, That beer bar complex on BR, and the beer bar complex near the entrance to WS.

Where is your favorite places to get a cheap beer and watch people walk by?

I'm entirely open to new places, but I would prefer to watch the waves and beautiful girls.Maybe Soi 7 and 8 and the beer bars in that vicinity around BR?

I am usually finishing up a LLT and don't get the system reset and going before 7 PM anyway. So the new hours don't' really bother me.

And I really like the thought of Ibar getting going and closing earlier.

[Mr Enternational]

Well, Soi 6 used to be my favorite spot to day drink. Now that it's gone, where do you all think is the best place to get a cold one during the early afternoon?

Here are a few places I can think of: Hooters, 5-star bar, Tahiti Queen, That beer bar complex on BR, and the beer bar complex near the entrance to WS.

Where is your favorite places to get a cheap beer and watch people walk by?

I'm entirely open to new places, but I would prefer to watch the waves and beautiful girls.You can always buy the cheapest beer at 7 Eleven and walk to the other side of Beach Road.

[Adrena]

You can always buy the cheapest beer at 7 Eleven and walk to the other side of Beach Road.LOL, I could do that, but it would destroy the mood. I'm not much of a drinker and I get bored very easily. Sitting by myself with a cheap beer sounds depressing. I'd much rather sit under a fan at 5-star bar and enjoy looking at the pictures.

Where do you gentlemen day drink now that Soi 6 is dry during the day?

I've been reading about the action shifting to Soi Honey and Buakhao.

For the ex-pats that are active before dark; where do you enjoy a beer with your friends?

Honestly, I rarely interact with farang when I'm in Pattaya. I can count on one hand all of the interactions I've had over the years. I talk a lot for work, so I'm naturally quiet during my holidays. I find it relaxing, but it isn't conducive to meeting new people. This trip, I wouldn't mind meeting some of you blokes. All of you older veterans have plenty of secret Pattaya knowledge to share.

So, where should I go to enjoy a day beer and make some new friends while chasing beautiful young ladies?

[Sunlover2]

You can always buy the cheapest beer at 7 Eleven and walk to the other side of Beach Road.The down on their luck beer drinking farangs seem to cluster around BR at Central Pattaya Klang, although you will have to learn to chain smoke cheap SMS cigarettes if you want to fit in LOL. Cheers!

SL.

[UltraHappy]

Let's forget about where to get daytime beer for the moment. The more important question is where does one go for girls in the daytime?

Soi 6 doesn't open until 6 pm. Walking Street doesn't open until 8 pm.

Where do I get girls from 1 pm until evening? -- assuming that I'm not interested in soapies or picking up random girls from 7-11. I mean, yes, I realize that if you live in Pattaya, you've got a long list of contacts that you've built up and that you have girls on tap 24/7 and getting a girl is never more difficult than ordering a pizza.

But if you're the tourist who is visiting for a week, where would you recommend this dumb Farang to go for the easiest / best line-ups of girls during the day?

Or are dumb Farang American tourists just out-of-luck during the day?

[Mogwai]

But if you're the tourist who is visiting for a week, where would you recommend this dumb Farang to go for the easiest / best line-ups of girls during the day?This has been discussed before, even quite recently, and the answer is there is no easiest / best line-ups of girls during the day.

I think you have the following options:
- Massage parlors in the area of Soi Honey / Soi Bukhao and Soi 13-1 and 13-2.
- Maybe 'Gentlemen's Clubs' like Kinnaree Place and The Montana Bar if they are still up and running and worth visting. Didn't see any reports recently about these places.
- WeChat. Although it's a little bit hit or miss in the daytime, but certainly worth a try.

[Mogwai]

Hey gents,

Been a while since I've been on the site and I'm actually planning a trip to Thailand (Bangkok and Pattaya) later in the year. So far I have penciled in Nov 1 - 15 on me flying out there. I remember another ISG member mentioning he was planning on going out around that time but mentioned something about getting wet in Oct, will it be dry by Nov? Also another ISG post mentioned around mid-late Nov the selection starts picking up as the girls start flocking in will Nov 1- 15th be too early? Thanks for the tips.Don't worry, November marks the start of the dry season. Most likely it will not be completely dry but the really heavy showers are over.
Over the years I've been in Thailand many times in the rainy season and it never really bothered me. In fact the rain is often very welcome when it has been hot for days in a row. It cools down and takes the pollution out of the air.

It's possible that mid-late Nov might be slightly better than early Nov but I wouldn't worry about that either.

[Crazy4Thai]

This has been discussed before, even quite recently, and the answer is there is no easiest / best line-ups of girls during the day.

I think you have the following options:
- Massage parlors in the area of Soi Honey / Soi Bukhao and Soi 13-1 and 13-2.
- Maybe 'Gentlemen's Clubs' like Kinnaree Place and The Montana Bar if they are still up and running and worth visting. Didn't see any reports recently about these places.
- WeChat. Although it's a little bit hit or miss in the daytime, but certainly worth a try.This is a very good list. I would add just about any massage lady that catches your eye is a strong possibility. It is harder to find "legitimate" massage than massage with extras and I do not mean just a HJ.

[Christian G]

- Maybe 'Gentlemen's Clubs' like Kinnaree Place ..... if they are still up and running and worth visting.Last month Kinnaree had a weak line up not much girls and few customer. Price as usual 1000 baht for girl and 350 baht for room.

[Christian G]

Let's forget about where to get daytime beer for the moment. The more important question is where does one go for girls in the daytime?
Soi 6 doesn't open until 6 pm. Walking Street doesn't open until 8 pm.
Where do I get girls from 1 pm until evening? -- assuming that I'm not interested in soapies or picking up random girls from 7-11. I mean, yes, I realize that if you live in Pattaya, you've got a long list of contacts that you've built up and that you have girls on tap 24/7 and getting a girl is never more difficult than ordering a pizza.
But if you're the tourist who is visiting for a week, where would you recommend this dumb Farang to go for the easiest / best line-ups of girls during the day?
Or are dumb Farang American tourists just out-of-luck during the day?
Club4, 007, Pirates, LE Carre Blanc, Club Sin, J CLub are all alongside each other.
Kinnaree and Heaven's on Pratamnak Hill.
Passion, KitCat, Jade, Rioja (if is open), Winchester (if is open) in Jomtien.
Geisha Bar in soi LK Pavilion, Cum Toghter (ex LE Carre Blanc) soi 33-3rd Road.
LOL_i_tas and The Den soi Chaiyapoon. Velvet Club soi Bongkot. Fairy Club soi Buakhao.
Massage shop in: soi Hoeny, Soi Chaiyapoon, Soi 13-1 and 13-2 and many more massage shop around.
Chat App: Thaifriendly, Badoo, Facebook, Wechat, Tinder.

Enough? ;-)

[Mr Enternational]

Club4, 007, Pirates, LE Carre Blanc, Club Sin, J CLub are all alongside each other.
Kinnaree and Heaven's on Pratamnak Hill.
Passion, KitCat, Jade, Rioja (if is open), Winchester (if is open) in Jomtien.
Geisha Bar in soi LK Pavilion, Cum Toghter (ex LE Carre Blanc) soi 33-3rd Road.
LOL_i_tas and The Den soi Chaiyapoon. Velvet Club soi Bongkot. Fairy Club soi Buakhao.
Massage shop in: soi Hoeny, Soi Chaiyapoon, Soi 13-1 and 13-2 and many more massage shop around.
Chat App: Thaifriendly, Badoo, Facebook, Wechat, Tinder.

Enough? ;-)Almost enough. You forgot about The Telephone Bar, LE Poste, Bliss Lounge, and the other BJ bars on Soi Post Office. Other than that I would say it is a complete list.

[Gin And Tonic]

Don't worry, November marks the start of the dry season. Most likely it will not be completely dry but the really heavy showers are over.
Over the years I've been in Thailand many times in the rainy season and it never really bothered me. In fact the rain is often very welcome when it has been hot for days in a row. It cools down and takes the pollution out of the air.

It's possible that mid-late Nov might be slightly better than early Nov but I wouldn't worry about that either.Rainy season in Pattaya is more about a thunder shower like short downpour every few days than a steady, hours long drizzle. Carry one of the $3 umbrellas from 7/11 and you will be fine.

[Gin And Tonic]

The bars in Walking Street generally open around 8 pm, some of them maybe a little bit earlier or later.
I usually go there around 9 pm when there are a decent number of girls and customers already, certainly in high season.The Windmill A-Go-Go on Soi Diamond still has 7 pm-3:30 am on their website. It fills up quick after opening time.

[Mr Enternational]

Rainy season in Pattaya is more about a thunder shower like short downpour every few days than a steady, hours long drizzle. Carry one of the $3 umbrellas from 7/11 and you will be fine.Carry a boat too. I think G&T forgot about the flooding.

[Member #4698]

A quality umbrella is an abolsute necessity. But I also think a good pair of water proof wading boots is a great idea for the flash floods that occur on many sois after every downpour. Check these bad boys out. The video is impressive.

http://www.orvis.com/wading-boots

I would have a pair if I lived in Thailand.

[ThatGuy68]

Almost enough. You forgot about The Telephone Bar, LE Poste, Bliss Lounge, and the other BJ bars on Soi Post Office. Other than that I would say it is a complete list.I got the telephone bar on my list to check out next month. It's so far off in the middle of nowhere though. Or at least from a newbie perspective looking at a map it is. Pretty simple to catch a motorbike back to central Pattaya? Is it worth the journey? I've contemplated striking it off the map a few times. Guy on another forum insists I have to do it but was unable to give more details.

[UltraHappy]

Club4, 007, Pirates, LE Carre Blanc, Club Sin, J CLub are all alongside each other.
Kinnaree and Heaven's on Pratamnak Hill.
Passion, KitCat, Jade, Rioja (if is open), Winchester (if is open) in Jomtien.
Geisha Bar in soi LK Pavilion, Cum Toghter (ex LE Carre Blanc) soi 33-3rd Road.
LOL_i_tas and The Den soi Chaiyapoon. Velvet Club soi Bongkot. Fairy Club soi Buakhao.
Massage shop in: soi Hoeny, Soi Chaiyapoon, Soi 13-1 and 13-2 and many more massage shop around.
Chat App: Thaifriendly, Badoo, Facebook, Wechat, Tinder.

Enough? ;-)


Almost enough. You forgot about The Telephone Bar, LE Poste, Bliss Lounge, and the other BJ bars on Soi Post Office. Other than that I would say it is a complete list.


This has been discussed before, even quite recently, and the answer is there is no easiest / best line-ups of girls during the day.

I think you have the following options:
- Massage parlors in the area of Soi Honey / Soi Bukhao and Soi 13-1 and 13-2.
- Maybe 'Gentlemen's Clubs' like Kinnaree Place and The Montana Bar if they are still up and running and worth visting. Didn't see any reports recently about these places.
- WeChat. Although it's a little bit hit or miss in the daytime, but certainly worth a try.Thank you! Thank you! Thank you Gentlemen for all the info. I was thinking of cancelling my trip to Pattaya after hearing that there was no daytime opportunities for fun in the city. But my trip is back on now. It looks like I should be able to make myself fairly busy during the day after all!

Thanks for all the info!

[Blanquiceleste]

I got the telephone bar on my list to check out next month. It's so far off in the middle of nowhere though. Or at least from a newbie perspective looking at a map it is. Pretty simple to catch a motorbike back to central Pattaya? Is it worth the journey? I've contemplated striking it off the map a few times. Guy on another forum insists I have to do it but was unable to give more details.Don't cancel it. Getting a mototaxi is not difficult. Ask the club staff to find you one if required, they are usually very cooperative.

[Blanquiceleste]

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you Gentlemen for all the info. I was thinking of cancelling my trip to Pattaya after hearing that there was no daytime opportunities for fun in the city. But my trip is back on now. It looks like I should be able to make myself fairly busy during the day after all!

Thanks for all the info!If all else fails, make sure the LT from the previous nights stays till late afternoon. That way you will get your fill.

And I agree the lists shared here are very comprehensive, but they are not highlighting enough the tremendous opportunity that online offers. I had reported a couple of years back about a trip that I had almost exclusively used online to bag women at all times of the day.

I also recently reported noticing an upsurge in the quality and quantity of women available online, and this might have something to do with the new rules. After all girls have to put food on the table and they will find a way to do it.

Absolutely no reason to cancel a trip.

[Christian G]

I got the telephone bar on my list to check out next month. It's so far off in the middle of nowhere though. Or at least from a newbie perspective looking at a map it is. Pretty simple to catch a motorbike back to central Pattaya? Is it worth the journey? I've contemplated striking it off the map a few times. Guy on another forum insists I have to do it but was unable to give more details.From second road, drive up Pattaya Tai is around 2,5 km so not much far. Just take a mototaxi (if you don't want drive your own motorbike) and check by your self if the club can suit you. My advice for the newbie: if you are curious about the daytime clubs, go to the clubs and look with your eyes. Sometimes could be a waste of time but sometimes could be alot of fun.

[Christian G]

I was thinking of cancelling my trip to Pattaya after hearing that there was no daytime opportunities for fun in the city. But my trip is back on now. It looks like I should be able to make myself fairly busy during the day after all!Paranoid? LOL You really have no idea how many girls are around in Pattaya and available online. And behind Sukhumvit road in the Pattaya Darkside have more and more daytime clubs / bars. Really The bars to be seen are infinite.

[Dive Monger]

This is a very good list. I would add just about any massage lady that catches your eye is a strong possibility. It is harder to find "legitimate" massage than massage with extras and I do not mean just a HJ.I want to support this excellent advice from Crazy4 Thai. As I am an old tired jaded punter these days, my preference is an older lady who I can enjoy time with and if things are good, spend an entire night with. The sexual activities are just one component of the experience, and often these days not even the most important component. As I like massages in Thailand, I use afternoon massages to evaluate massage ladies for later takeout. This last trip in Pattaya I got just a foot massage (no happy ending or anything else, it was out in the public street-facing windowed area of the shop) and ended up finding a lady who was cute and interesting and just fun. I didn't do her that day, but came back the next day and made arrangements for her to meet me at my hotel after she got off work (so no fee to the shop). We got a bit to eat, had a drink or two, and went back and had a nice night. 1500 baht. So I would highly recommend trawling for gash in the massage parlors; I am pretty sure that pretty much any of the massage ladies would be available for takeout (although the logistics might vary).

[BionicMan]

A quality umbrella is an abolsute necessity. But I also think a good pair of water proof wading boots is a great idea for the flash floods that occur on many sois after every downpour. Check these bad boys out. The video is impressive.

http://www.orvis.com/wading-boots

I would have a pair if I lived in Thailand.Do you use rubber boots when you go in the sea?

Unless you have a wound in your feet, flip flops will do.

Umbrella, I buy the foldable one at 7-11 2/300 boats, no worries to forget it somewhere when rain is over.

Fear of getting wet? Take a girl to the room and do the compulsory shower, she will dry you.

[Member #4698]

Do you use rubber boots when you go in the sea?

Unless you have a wound in your feet, flip flops will do.

Umbrella, I buy the foldable one at 7-11 2/300 boats, no worries to forget it somewhere when rain is over.

Fear of getting wet? Take a girl to the room and do the compulsory shower, she will dry you.Are you kidding me? I can't believe you, BionicMan, would walk thru those dirty puddles in flip flops. The only people I have ever seen wade through that filth are poor, barefoot, down on their luck, Thais. Not even crazy Russians walk through the backwater and with good reason. Those flash foods on the streets are the result of backed up, overflow, sewer water. I don't consider myself a germaphobe, but there is no way I am going to slosh around in those temporary street ponds. That's filthy polluted water. I hope your tetanus shots are up to date. 555, besides I never wear flip flops except by the pool. I find them terribly uncomfortable for walking any distance, plus I hate the look out on the street or in restaurants/bars. My current favorite shoe is the HOKA ONE ONE Challenger ATR 3. What a great walking shoe although actually it's category is Trail Running Shoe.

http://www.outdoorgearlab.com/reviews/shoes-and-boots/trail-running-shoes/hoka-one-one-challenger-atr-3

I tell you what, Bman. We should hook up one time after a rain storm and you can show me that you do walk through the backed up street water on Sukumvit, BKK in your flip flops. We will both have a laugh and then I will buy the 1st round of a quality craft beer somewhere. And then we will get you a tetanus shot.

[MrManGuy]

I want to support this excellent advice from Crazy4 Thai. As I am an old tired jaded punter these days, my preference is an older lady who I can enjoy time with and if things are good, spend an entire night with. The sexual activities are just one component of the experience, and often these days not even the most important component. As I like massages in Thailand, I use afternoon massages to evaluate massage ladies for later takeout. This last trip in Pattaya I got just a foot massage (no happy ending or anything else, it was out in the public street-facing windowed area of the shop) and ended up finding a lady who was cute and interesting and just fun. I didn't do her that day, but came back the next day and made arrangements for her to meet me at my hotel after she got off work (so no fee to the shop). We got a bit to eat, had a drink or two, and went back and had a nice night. 1500 baht. So I would highly recommend trawling for gash in the massage parlors; I am pretty sure that pretty much any of the massage ladies would be available for takeout (although the logistics might vary).I only go with young stunners. All of the Thai girls I was with (except for one) were ridiculously warm and playful. I pay on average 4. 5 k a night which is the going rate for young attractive women instead of uglies or old dogs.

[APReport]

Almost enough. You forgot about The Telephone Bar, LE Poste, Bliss Lounge, and the other BJ bars on Soi Post Office. Other than that I would say it is a complete list.Bliss currently is closed for renovation according to its sign posted on front.

Wednesday night Walking Street and Beach Road were flooded from the thunderstorm rain. Flood level breached over sidewalk curb height on Beach Rd. Forcing all the FLs and the homeless to scramble for shelter on the east side of the road where it's better illuminated thereby had the opportunity to get a good of the faces of the FLs.

[BionicMan]

I pay on average 4. 5 k a night which is the going rate for young attractive women instead of uglies or old dogs.If you say so. I am very happy for the girls who can extract that sort of money.

Thai economy will resurrect as those girls will have then big spending capacity compared to the average.

[MrManGuy]

If you say so. I am very happy for the girls who can extract that sort of money.

Thai economy will resurrect as those girls will have then big spending capacity compared to the average.As I've said many times before; show me where to find a pretty young woman LT for 1500 baht and I'll do it. All the suggestions I've seen lead to average-at best looking girls or dogs in their mid 30's.

[Mr Enternational]

As I've said many times before; show me where to find a pretty young woman LT for 1500 baht and I'll do it. All the suggestions I've seen lead to average-at best looking girls or dogs in their mid 30's.Show me where to find the women that you are talking about and I will show you how much they will really go for.

[World Travel 69]

Here are a few places open in the day time.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=1TBW8OkCo4Acz1ug7ssSBBNTxJ5U&ll=12.918495567874885%2C100.88870601503754&z=14


Let's forget about where to get daytime beer for the moment. The more important question is where does one go for girls in the daytime?

Soi 6 doesn't open until 6 pm. Walking Street doesn't open until 8 pm.

Where do I get girls from 1 pm until evening? -- assuming that I'm not interested in soapies or picking up random girls from 7-11. I mean, yes, I realize that if you live in Pattaya, you've got a long list of contacts that you've built up and that you have girls on tap 24/7 and getting a girl is never more difficult than ordering a pizza.

But if you're the tourist who is visiting for a week, where would you recommend this dumb Farang to go for the easiest / best line-ups of girls during the day?

Or are dumb Farang American tourists just out-of-luck during the day?

[Dive Monger]

As I've said many times before; show me where to find a pretty young woman LT for 1500 baht and I'll do it. All the suggestions I've seen lead to average-at best looking girls or dogs in their mid 30's.I'm completely OK with average looking girls in their 30's as long as they fit some basic criteria:

-thin.

-petite.

-long dark hair.

-no tattoos or crazy piercings that make them look like a hardware store.

-warm and affectionate.

For ones that are not dogs, I generally pay 2000 baht LT / all night. 1500 you can get if you have a great rapport, get lucky, or she really really is turned on by you. As I am hairy and fat, and well past sixty, this becomes a rarity.

[TellAll]

As I've said many times before; show me where to find a pretty young woman LT for 1500 baht and I'll do it. All the suggestions I've seen lead to average-at best looking girls or dogs in their mid 30's.Please show us some pictures of the 4500 bht girls so we will know where the standard is.

[Banana Boi]

Lots of BR freelancers between soi 3 and soi 13/2 last night.

Visited LK metro. Ninja lineup not great but I got there late. One of my old favorites has returned after a year hiatus. Touch was busy line up average. Bachelor was bad the first set and I was literally out the door when I saw one I really liked so stuck around with her. Good time. Gold already closed. Too bad I liked that gogo bar.

Tonight I hope to get to the new walking street gogo clubs that just opened this week, Annabelle's, addiction, and tantra. Also will hit Miami nightclub, the old alcatraz.

[MrManGuy]

Please show us some pictures of the 4500 bht girls so we will know where the standard is.Just go youtube and look at one of the WS videos. Pretty accurate.

[Mogwai]

WeChat can be hilarious sometimes:

I want to have shot time.

Facial massage and taxi driver.

Me ladyboy, the last thing you want.

Good girl, please don't hurt my filling.

I want some body love me.

[Banana Boi]

Walking Street tonight. Absolutely packed. So much for low season.

First stop Annabelle's. The former G Spot. Talent was pretty decent. Some pretty faces but seemed like each girl had a flaw of some sort like crooked teeth, too thin, legs too big, etc. The lineup was more for those who like no nose jobs, etc. Like Syzy. More the traditional Thai look than the type of girls you will find at Sensations, Baccara, or Fahrenheit. I liked a couple so enjoyed a few lady drinks. I think it was 170 per LD. I didn't query regarding BF. Girls dress the same as Windmill so not sure if same owner.

Plan was to hit Miami which used to be Alcatraz. It is an open bar so you can see inside now. Place was dead so didn't bother to go in. Bar looked very nice though.

Next up wanted some skank so hit windmill. I really need to learn to hit Windmill BEFORE the other clubs since you can't go from even semi quality to Windmill. I did find a young looking skanky thing. A bit too thin for me but cute face and a dirty girl.

Time was running out for me so I had to choose between Sensations and Fahrenheit. Since it was after midnight on a weekend night I figure anyone good at Sensations would have already been BF by a Japanese guy. Off to Fahrenheit I go. Many many beautiful girls for my taste. I think I prefer Fahrenheit over Sensations these days. Tough for me to sample new ones there since I already have 4 regulars there but I managed to squeeze in a new busty one. Glad I did. If you're not a cheap charlie and willing to buy at least 3 drinks for each lady you want to make out with this is a great club. Cheap Charlie's don't bother but I guess the same applies to Sensations and Baccara too.

[Mr Enternational]

If you're not a cheap charlie and willing to buy at least 3 drinks for each lady you want to make out with this is a great club. Cheap Charlie's don't bother but I guess the same applies to Sensations and Baccara too.Why do you need to buy 3 drinks? Everywhere I have seen 1 will get you in. And sometimes 0. FL Hawk, what is the name of that club on Walking Street where the chick was all over me kept making me touch her pussy and shit. I didn't buy her anything. I just gave her 100 baht tip before we left.

[Banana Boi]

Why do you need to buy 3 drinks? Everywhere I have seen 1 will get you in. And sometimes 0. FL Hawk, what is the name of that club on Walking Street where the chick was all over me kept making me touch her pussy and shit. I didn't buy her anything. I just gave her 100 baht tip before we left.Not all girls at the aforementioned clubs open up to full DFK, HJ, and DATY on 0 or 1 drink. Sure there are some / many who do at every club. Some clubs it's mandatory that you have multiple fingers up their pussy, a tongue down your throat, and they are giving you a HJ with 0 or 1 drink as you mention.

I pushed some girls away who wanted to DFK me and put her hands in my shorts last night and tonight. No drinks required. If they're not top tier girls I don't want them.

[Priamos]

I also recently reported noticing an upsurge in the quality and quantity of women available online, and this might have something to do with the new rules. After all girls have to put food on the table and they will find a way to do it.

Absolutely no reason to cancel a trip.Hmmmm? I have not cancelled any trips, but I was in Pattaya in the last week of June and I did cut my trip short by a week and returned to Europe. Why? Because like the previous poster I like afternoon action, and I like being in bed well before midnight. My favourite afternoon haunt. Soi 6 - had turned into an afternoon graveyard. Such a disappointment.

I also tried to organise some dates online (as Blancuiceleste suggests), and as far as the internet goes this was very successful. I like anal sex, I like early afternoon sex. On Thaifriendly it was easy to find ladies who accept both and get their phone number (or Line address). The only problem was, once in Pattaya those same girls would tell me that, contrary to earlier promises, they were available only after 5 pm or / and only if I came to "their bar" and / or non-standard sex would have to be negotiated separately. In short: the online girls in Pattaya are a bunch of bait-and-switch merchants.

[Mogwai]

I also tried to organise some dates online (as Blancuiceleste suggests), and as far as the internet goes this was very successful. I like anal sex, I like early afternoon sex. On Thaifriendly it was easy to find ladies who accept both and get their phone number (or Line address). The only problem was, once in Pattaya those same girls would tell me that, contrary to earlier promises, they were available only after 5 pm or / and only if I came to "their bar" and / or non-standard sex would have to be negotiated separately. In short: the online girls in Pattaya are a bunch of bait-and-switch merchants.'Online' is more than just TF. Try WeChat or Badoo next time. Not much bait and switch there and plenty of girls who are available in the afternoon, more than you can handle.

And maybe you will even find some of your former Soi 6 favorites there.

[Pipe Layer99]

Did a quick tour of the soapies yesterday just for fun. Every now and then I do a tour. I have only banged a girl in a soapie twice in the past 6 years. Once in Pattaya and once in Macau (yes Macau was expensive as fuck, but I enjoyed it that ONE time for the experience with a Taiwanese girl).

Anyway, I saw a few good looking girls last night at Sabai Dee. I saw one in particular get up after she was picked by some guy. She had a really nice body. I'm talking really nice, with tits and ass. Shit, I might have to go back and do her.

Later, I walked down soi 7 and 8 and didn't see any girl that I liked. I was surprised by the lack of good looking girls. Being a regular here, I went back to my condo and texted a few girls. One of my former freaks came over in 10 minutes. She was looking good and performed great. She stayed about 2 hours. 1000 baht well spent.

[Christian G]

Later, I walked down soi 7 and 8 and didn't see any girl that I liked. I was surprised by the lack of good looking girls. Went to walk down soi 7 - 8 a couple of time last month and it was a sadness. Very low quality everywhere in these two soi. Also the "famous" Shooter had a very bad line up.

[Banana Boi]

I've never understood the appeal of Soi 7 and Soi 8. I never see much there. I go often since I have a couple of friends working there but really pickings are slim.

shooter is overrated although I know guys who like it there. give me a top WS gogo bar any day.

[Dive Monger]

Went to walk down soi 7 - 8 a couple of time last month and it was a sadness. Very low quality everywhere in these two soi. Also the "famous" Shooter had a very bad line up.Same experience when I was there in early-mid June. Very sad. If you want to just have a couple afternoon beers and get touchy-feely friendly with some pretty girls in the afternoon timeframe noon-7 PM, there seem to be many fewer options. I dm not much of a soapie aficionado. I guess I might have to try prowling some massage places and see if there is takeout ST that is worth it. My body just does not do all that well with the time shift to getting out of bed at 4 PM and having my day from then until 4 AM or daybreak. I'll need to figure something out for sure before my next trip.

[Breadman]

Hmmmm? I have not cancelled any trips, but I was in Pattaya in the last week of June and I did cut my trip short by a week and returned to Europe. Why? Because like the previous poster I like afternoon action, and I like being in bed well before midnight.
.I just can't understand guys like you who force the same routine on yourself even though your 6 hours ahead (or more) when your in Thailand. Midnight in Thailand is 6 pm in Europe, why force such a drastic sleeping pattern change on yourself?

[Uncle Volodya]

Went to walk down soi 7 - 8 a couple of time last month and it was a sadness. Very low quality everywhere in these two soi. Also the "famous" Shooter had a very bad line up.I ended up at Shooters a few times last couple of trips. Mostly out of inertia more than anything else. But I think you are probably right. Ws prices but not quality (though I always managed to find one I liked). I would have been better off at Faranheit or another good WS gogo.

[SearcherMan]

I've never understood the appeal of Soi 7 and Soi 8. I never see much there. I go often since I have a couple of friends working there but really pickings are slim.

shooter is overrated although I know guys who like it there. give me a top WS gogo bar any day.I certainly would admit that it doesn't have the percentage of stunners like the one LK Metro gogo had that I checked out. But the ease of walking by and sifting through many women w / o having to buy a drink works for me. When you find that jewel, and I did big time, it's worth it. Also, probably half the cost of a st gogo girl for LT with a Soi 7 girl.

[ItIsMe83]

WeChat can be hilarious sometimes:

I want to have shot time.

Facial massage and taxi driver.

Me ladyboy, the last thing you want.

Good girl, please don't hurt my filling.

I want some body love me.There should really be a separate forum here with 'Funniest things heard on wechat / Whatsapp'. I could write a book on it. Find it hilarious the things some girls send.

Also a topic called 'Ladyboy yes / no' with a photo for others to vote on yes / no like in the good old days with those hot / not sites. Wechat is so full of them it's getting annoying. It's real real hard sometimes to see if they are or not and they aren't the most honest about it either: the.

[BionicMan]

Hmmmm? I have not cancelled any trips, but I was in Pattaya in the last week of June and I did cut my trip short by a week and returned to Europe.

...., once in Pattaya those same girls would tell me that, contrary to earlier promises, they were available only after 5 pm or / and only if I came to "their bar" and / or non-standard sex would have to be negotiated separately. In short: the online girls in Pattaya are a bunch of bait-and-switch merchants.Your story confirms, if ever needed, that too early pre-arrangements are useless.

The girls promise whatever as they can't waste much time on social media, entertaining guys thousands of miles away.

Can you imagine how many tens and tens get in touch with them with no plan to come to Thailand?

They have to make ends meet every night with cash not with bytes exchanged.

Social media is good when you are there.

TF can be a lurking tool to see what the market offers. Then go spot on when you are there: see, contact, deal and sign the deal, or move over.

[Banana Boi]

I ended up at Shooters a few times last couple of trips. Mostly out of inertia more than anything else. But I think you are probably right. Ws prices but not quality (though I always managed to find one I liked). I would have been better off at Faranheit or another good WS gogo.Remember the time we both walked into Dolls gogo on Soi 6 and we both had girls we wanted there but were shocked that pricing for BF and services was equal to a top WS gogo club. That was disappointing given it's on Soi 6.

[Mogwai]

Also a topic called 'Ladyboy yes / no' with a photo for others to vote on yes / no like in the good old days with those hot / not sites. Wechat is so full of them it's getting annoying. It's real real hard sometimes to see if they are or not and they aren't the most honest about it either: the.My experience is different. Yes, there are many ladyboys on Wechat but I think about 90% of them identify themselves as ladyboy in their profile. Of the remaining 10% there's only a small percentage where I'm in doubt. In that case I ask them for more pictures and if I'm still not sure I simply ask them if they are ladyboy or not. Can be a little bit embarrasing if she's a real woman but so be it. And I think about 99% of the ladyboys admit to me they are a ladyboy when I ask them straight away.

It was much harder a few years ago, when Wechat was not as big yet as it is now, when the majority of the ladyboys did not identify themselves as such in their profile. I think most of them got a lot of negative or even agressive reactions when people found out the truth and came to the conclusion that it's no use to hide it.

For what it's worth: it's 10 AM now here and I just did a search on 'People Nearby' in WeChat and I got 100 hits.
25 of them are ladyboy. Only 2 of them do not identify themselves as ladyboy in their profile, but nevertheless it's quite clear they are.
There's only 1 'lady' where I'm in doubt. She claims to be a real girl but I think she's a post-op.

[Mr Enternational]

I simply ask them if they are ladyboy or not. Can be a little bit embarrasing if she's a real woman but so be it. And I think about 99% of the ladyboys admit to me they are a ladyboy when I ask them straight away.
I think most of them got a lot of negative or even agressive reactions when people found out the truth and came to the conclusion that it's no use to hide it.Exactly. These guys are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. I don't think any of them are trying to trick anyone. At least they have never tried to trick me. Even if I approach one in person thinking it is female, they will say I am lb.

[Mogwai]

I just can't understand guys like you who force the same routine on yourself even though your 6 hours ahead (or more) when your in Thailand. Midnight in Thailand is 6 pm in Europe, why force such a drastic sleeping pattern change on yourself?Uhm... I think it doesn't work that way. After a few days your body has adjusted to the day / night (light / dark) rhythm of the place where you are.
So when it's 7 pm in Thailand, and it's already dark, your brain does not think it's 1 pm or whatever the time is then in your home country.

So actually I think it's better to 'force' the same routine on yourself. Or more or less the same routine anyway.
Works for me anyway. I have tried to be a night owl but I felt like shit after a couple of days.

[Cool Mumbai]

Hello friends,

Bit late, but here is my 2nd part of my trip.

I think this will be more useful for Indian guys as I have certainly observed that different things and different setup works for different races.

Thaifriendly. Avoid it. It takes lot of time to prearrange and not guaranteed. Lot of better options available in front of eyes.

Beach road freelances. I was bit skeptical after going through some reports regarding quality and safety. But this option is far better. Particularly on weekend nights. I was impressed by the sheer number of girls available on Saturday night with some absolute stunners. Weekday nights are not that great but one can still find a gem. Trick is grab the girl once you like her and the vibes between you 2 are good. I messed up on Saturday night as I could not decide which to take. Sometimes too many good options are also spoil things as one tend to think lets find better one By the time we are back, earlier girl is taken!

Best option for desis is Nasha and Tonys.

Both these clubs play total Bollywood songs. Almost all males are Indians. So the girls coming to these joints are definitely comfortable with and ready to go with Indians.

Nasha. Lot of Russians (or from adjacent countries). However these are the girls who are beyond their prime time. I found most of them are leftovers from gulf countries. Once rich sheikhs drill them fully and they put some wights, past prime time, they shift to India and maybe Thailand. In Nasha, you have to be proactive and ask the girl. Most will just stand there waiting for you. Around 4 K full night.

Tonys. More Thai girls here and bit more interactive. Girls will hit you continuously. Around 2.5-3 k full night.

So my suggestion for desi boys is explore Nasha and tony along with beach road freelancers. You have more on your platter than you can eat.

Daytime I explored soapies, Soi 6, DD. Nights Nasha Tony BR.

One should have around 8 k per day for mongering purpose to have good time.

Also no need to do lot of research, just land in Pattaya. The place will guide you itself. Even after spending time in Pattaya somebody is not happy, no place in world can make you happy.

And please don't be rude and cheap charlie. By paying girl or joint, we are not owing them! We can be better travelers too. I personally felt bad seeing behavior of some of our fellas.

Enjoy and have a blast.

[Dive Monger]

Uhm... I think it doesn't work that way. After a few days your body has adjusted to the day / night (light / dark) rhythm of the place where you are.
So when it's 7 pm in Thailand, and it's already dark, your brain does not think it's 1 pm or whatever the time is then in your home country.

So actually I think it's better to 'force' the same routine on yourself. Or more or less the same routine anyway.
Works for me anyway. I have tried to be a night owl but I felt like shit after a couple of days.That is actually my big problem: I reside 12 timezones away (North America) and my body DOES adjust to the local timezone when I am in Thailand. Problem is, my 'normal' time is to awake at sunup, and to relax at sundown, and go to bed a couple of hours later. I have not used an alarm clock in years, my body just automatically wakes at that time, and gets sleepy at nighttime. When I try to stay on my 'home time' so that I can do that bar / gogo thing from 7 PM to 4 AM, my body simply does not cooperate. Very frustrating, especially since afternoon and early entertainment seems to be rapidly drying up.

[Uncle Volodya]

Remember the time we both walked into Dolls gogo on Soi 6 and we both had girls we wanted there but were shocked that pricing for BF and services was equal to a top WS gogo club. That was disappointing given it's on Soi 6.Those chicks were hot! We should have bit the bullet and done it. 555.

Me and Illusion walked in there in May and the selection was horrid. Stretch marks and bullet wounds.

[Banana Boi]

Just finished a 3 pm stroll down Soi 6 for you guys. Over half the bars are closed. The ones that were open only had 1-4 girls in them with the odd exception like Ruby. Ruby had a young petite cute one who I will go back for. She was maybe only 1 of 2 doable girls for me on the entire Soi. Most were downright older and ugly. Never seen it this bad and I have seen some bad days on Soi 6 even before the rule change. Today's walk was to update you guys only. Seeing one of my regulars tonight and saving my energy.

[SamWise1]

Just finished a 3 pm stroll down Soi 6 for you guys. Over half the bars are closed. The ones that were open only had 1-4 girls in them with the odd exception like Ruby. Ruby had a young petite cute one who I will go back for. She was maybe only 1 of 2 doable girls for me on the entire Soi. Most were downright older and ugly. Never seen it this bad and I have seen some bad days on Soi 6 even before the rule change. Today's walk was to update you guys only. Seeing one of my regulars tonight and saving my energy.This is sad to hear. Soi6 used to be bustling around 4 to 5 PM. Hope this rule changes soon. Is night time also dull due to the rule? Thanks for the report.

[PedroEscobar]

Hello friends,

Bit late, but here is my 2nd part of my trip.

I think this will be more useful for Indian guys as I have certainly observed that different things and different setup works for different races.

Thaifriendly. Avoid it. It takes lot of time to prearrange and not guaranteed. Lot of better options available in front of eyes.

Beach road freelances. I was bit skeptical after going through some reports regarding quality and safety. But this option is far better. Particularly on weekend nights. I was impressed by the sheer number of girls available on Saturday night with some absolute stunners. Weekday nights are not that great but one can still find a gem. Trick is grab the girl once you like her and the vibes between you 2 are good. I messed up on Saturday night as I could not decide which to take. Sometimes too many good options are also spoil things as one tend to think lets find better one By the time we are back, earlier girl is taken!

Best option for desis is Nasha and Tonys.

Both these clubs play total Bollywood songs. Almost all males are Indians. So the girls coming to these joints are definitely comfortable with and ready to go with Indians..Great report Cool Mumbai, some good information for your countryman. Full respect for highlighting your 'fellow travellers' antics, although maybe not the same but we all raise an eyebrow now and then at our own countrymen & women on our trips around the world.

[FunExplorer]

Day 1 in Pattaya.

After arriving in the evening, I had shower and headed for WS. Visited among others Doll House, Peppermint, Shark, Sweethearts. I could not find a girl in whom I was interested until 9 PM. I then went to Super Baby. This club has a wide selection of girls and I did not take much time in selecting a beauty, who was about 23 years. She had a nice body apart from being well mannered. Had a couple of beers there with her before moving into my room. Girl like my room in Penthouse Hotel with its lighting and dance pole. We had a quick shower and then I asked her to dance. Oh. That was nice, indeed. Started with DFK. She was cooperative from the beginning. After BJ, I fucked her in different positions and finished in about 12 minutes. Paid her TBH 2000 plus tips of 500. I had paid 800 as bar fine earlier.

Left again to WS after seeing off the girl. This time picked up a FL who was from Cambodia. Was about 27 years, though she claimed to be 21. Had a good session with her but could not cum. Sent her off paying TBH 800 which was agreed plus 200 as tips.

By the time I set off again, it was 12.30 AM. So, I went back to Super Baby. Though I spotted a nice girl and invited her for a drink, I did not take her to the room for another hour, as I was enjoying the beauties on the dias and having beer with the girl. Finally, we were in the room. Not a session to remember. The girl was okay but mechanical. Sent the girl paying 2,000 and no tips.

Had paid 800 as bar fine.

[Flo69]

Dear friends,

Spent now more then a week in Pattaya, just give an update from my perspective what's going on nowadays. Usually daytime I hang around at the beach for some soda / beer and a massage; water dirty as always but hey, who cares. Went then three times around 3 pm to Soi 13/2. The Gogo on the right side coming from the beachm close to McDonalds which opens usually at 1 pm. Girls 5/10 to 7/10. Did not barfine the first two times; Third time I wanted to BF a cutie (which I had already one year ago after 2 weeks in the bar) but: super unfriendly mamsan (already the 2 times before), super unfriendly waitress and the gal not interested at all. Maybe some frustration, some people told me they shut down in September. Went sometimes instead of Soi 13 to Soi 6. From my perspective the action starts later then I know from my trips before. On year ago you could find already some real nice girls at 2 pm; nowadays it tends to be more 5 pm; even 6 pm is better and the bars are full. Identified one place (red dot I think) which is opposite an Aussie bar; nice to sit in Aussie bar and check the gals on red dot and toy box. Found one 22 year old super pretty girl, super nice and new room with perfect shower and bed (350 bht.) and ST girl (1.000 bht). Perfect.

Another day, Soi6 I went to Click bar. One maybe 30 year old caught my eye, top body, nice smile. One beer, one LD and BJ on the couch inside (curtain around) 1. 010 bht. Really good. Was at around 5 pm. When I left even more nice girls outside.

Walking street: Good to see that my favorite GoGo Peppermint still up and running with lots of funny girls (well, not the most beautiful but lots of dancing and smiling). Did not ask for prices, don't barfine that much from gogos, I like to drink in the night and bum bum daytime Another place I go usually just to watch the girls is Iron. Completely disappointment. Girls only on the first of the three stages, maybe 8 girls in total at midnight. Went to Whats Up, still the best girls BUT: Beer plus LD 485 bht. Asked for barfine: 3.000 bht, girl (9/10) requested 8. 000 bht ST! Crazy prices and little bit too pushy. Windmill closed due to renovations but the sister bar (forget the name, is on walking street, can't miss, its a sign which says sister bar of windmill). Still same action inside. Some of 4/10, lots of 5/10 and little 6/10. Prices OK (I forgot). Spend most of my time in the evening in Soi Metro. Still more relaxed, barfinded a 20 year old cutie (8/10) (sad thing: no word English). BF 800 bht, LT 5.000 Super Service, just did what I requested. One evening to the castle (for those of you who are into BDSM). Same procedure as always. You go in, get a show with 5 to 6 ladies / slave girls. Nice and funny. Total damage: 5.000 bht (first beer 900 incl. The show, 2 LDs (500 bht.) and one girl for one hour 3.500. Definitely worth the price if you are into it.

Hope it helps some of you guys! Bangkok Report will follow soon in BK chapter (Thermae, Kapoo Club, Soi Cowboy, BJ Bars).

Save travel and be respectful.

Cheers,

Flo69.

[Banana Boi]

King's birthday today. Tons and tons of girls on Beach Road.

[Sammy1968]

Arrived and caught a bus down to Pattaya, chatted with two older fellows on the bus, one Australian, obviously gay (he talked about Patpong a lot) and an American, ex Navy who travels the world and told me about the bars in Pattaya. They both knew what I was coming for in LOS, but we were surrounded by 'polite' company.

Arrived about 6 pm at the Aya Hotel really tired from the long flight / bus trip, so had a shower and a 30 minute nap and then wandered out into the evening twilight about 8 pm, was warm and dry (no monsoon rains).

Had some food from a street cart and then stopped at The Stones House had a couple of beers and watched the circus unfold and took it all in as the band played AC / DC and Rage Against the Machine covers it was a little early and felt like just watching the stream of tourists, Chinese scout troupes and guys on the prowl.

Intent on checking out SkyFall, Baccara and Lighthouse, around 10 pm I wandered up and down the street and admired the cute lasses touting for customers before visiting all three clubs as well as Infinity. I didn't much like Baccara, Lighthouse was ok, but made mental notes to return to Skyfall and Infinity, by now it was around midnight and the jetlag and half a dozen beers were sapping my will to stay awake and I headed for home. I took a trip down the beach side of the main drag and enjoyed checking out all the rather tasty looking FL's standing along it, feeling somewhat reinvigorated I decided to go back and choose one for a romp.

She was about 160 cm, slim and looked to be about 28 (probably older) dark skinned and spoke good English. Being a newbie and a little drunk, she asked for 2 K, I countered with 1 K for BBJ, DATY and 2 shots and we agreed on 1500. Back in the room after separate showers, I checked her out properly, some baby damage but not too noticeable and small handful tits, beautiful dark skin and a lovely smile. Started off with DFK, fingering and then on to DATY, no reticence from her and she seemed to enjoy it, made all the right noise and got very wet, gave me a great BBBJ slipped on a Johnny and started with doggy, then reverse cowgirl and finally missionary where I blew my load. Afterwards, over a drink, we chatted in bed, she was 35! (she looked way younger) and had two teenage kids. After 20 minute she started back to work on my John Thomas, while she was a trooper, the jet lag and the booze had had its' effect and I couldn't go a second round and called it a night. She showered, I gave her 2 k, she gave me her line and a hell of a kiss and we parted. Great first night in the LOS!

[FL Hawk]

Why do you need to buy 3 drinks? Everywhere I have seen 1 will get you in. And sometimes 0. FL Hawk, what is the name of that club on Walking Street where the chick was all over me kept making me touch her pussy and shit. I didn't buy her anything. I just gave her 100 baht tip before we left.Haha, I do remember that! You are the master. I can't remember the name of the club, but your point that one can negotiate lower rates is made. However, you have the skills and the patience that many of us short-term visitors don't have or cannot develop in our limited time. I will be back in wet October and still owe you dinner my friend.

[Uncle Volodya]

Arrived and caught a bus down to Pattaya, chatted with two older fellows on the bus, one Australian, obviously gay (he talked about Patpong a lot) and an American, ex Navy who travels the world and told me about the bars in Pattaya. They both knew what I was coming for in LOS, but we were surrounded by 'polite' company.

Arrived about 6 pm at the Aya Hotel really tired from the long flight / bus trip, so had a shower and a 30 minute nap and then wandered out into the evening twilight about 8 pm, was warm and dry (no monsoon rains).

Had some food from a street cart and then stopped at The Stones House had a couple of beers and watched the circus unfold and took it all in as the band played AC / DC and Rage Against the Machine covers it was a little early and felt like just watching the stream of tourists, Chinese scout troupes and guys on the prowl.

Intent on checking out SkyFall, Baccara and Lighthouse, around 10 pm I wandered up and down the street and admired the cute lasses touting for customers before visiting all three clubs as well as Infinity. I didn't much like Baccara, Lighthouse was ok, but made mental notes to return to Skyfall and Infinity, by now it was around midnight and the jetlag and half a dozen beers were sapping my will to stay awake and I headed for home. I took a trip down the beach side of the main drag and enjoyed checking out all the rather tasty looking FL's standing along it, feeling somewhat reinvigorated I decided to go back and choose one for a romp.

She was about 160 cm, slim and looked to be about 28 (probably older) dark skinned and spoke good English. Being a newbie and a little drunk, she asked for 2 K, I countered with 1 K for BBJ, DATY and 2 shots and we agreed on 1500. Back in the room after separate showers, I checked her out properly, some baby damage but not too noticeable and small handful tits, beautiful dark skin and a lovely smile. Started off with DFK, fingering and then on to DATY, no reticence from her and she seemed to enjoy it, made all the right noise and got very wet, gave me a great BBBJ slipped on a Johnny and started with doggy, then reverse cowgirl and finally missionary where I blew my load. Afterwards, over a drink, we chatted in bed, she was 35! (she looked way younger) and had two teenage kids. After 20 minute she started back to work on my John Thomas, while she was a trooper, the jet lag and the booze had had its' effect and I couldn't go a second round and called it a night. She showered, I gave her 2 k, she gave me her line and a hell of a kiss and we parted. Great first night in the LOS!Welcome to Pattaya! I am glad to hear you are having fun. What you paid is your business and I applaud you for rewarding your lady for her good service. I am not one of them members of the price police that plague this board, but just FYI I think the girl would have been more than happy just with the 1500 you agreed on as this is still way above the going BR rate.

Stay horny my friend.

Uncle-V.

[Blanquiceleste]

Arrived and caught a bus down to Pattaya, chatted with two older fellows on the bus, one Australian, obviously gay (he talked about Patpong a lot) and an American, ex Navy who travels the world and told me about the bars in Pattaya. They both knew what I was coming for in LOS, but we were surrounded by 'polite' company.

Arrived about 6 pm at the Aya Hotel really tired from the long flight / bus trip, so had a shower and a 30 minute nap and then wandered out into the evening twilight about 8 pm, was warm and dry (no monsoon rains).

Had some food from a street cart and then stopped at The Stones House had a couple of beers and watched the circus unfold and took it all in as the band played AC / DC and Rage Against the Machine covers it was a little early and felt like just watching the stream of tourists, Chinese scout troupes and guys on the prowl.

Intent on checking out SkyFall, Baccara and Lighthouse, around 10 pm I wandered up and down the street and admired the cute lasses touting for customers before visiting all three clubs as well as Infinity. I didn't much like Baccara, Lighthouse was ok, but made mental notes to return to Skyfall and Infinity, by now it was around midnight and the jetlag and half a dozen beers were sapping my will to stay awake and I headed for home. I took a trip down the beach side of the main drag and enjoyed checking out all the rather tasty looking FL's standing along it, feeling somewhat reinvigorated I decided to go back and choose one for a romp.

She was about 160 cm, slim and looked to be about 28 (probably older) dark skinned and spoke good English. Being a newbie and a little drunk, she asked for 2 K, I countered with 1 K for BBJ, DATY and 2 shots and we agreed on 1500. Back in the room after separate showers, I checked her out properly, some baby damage but not too noticeable and small handful tits, beautiful dark skin and a lovely smile. Started off with DFK, fingering and then on to DATY, no reticence from her and she seemed to enjoy it, made all the right noise and got very wet, gave me a great BBBJ slipped on a Johnny and started with doggy, then reverse cowgirl and finally missionary where I blew my load. Afterwards, over a drink, we chatted in bed, she was 35! (she looked way younger) and had two teenage kids. After 20 minute she started back to work on my John Thomas, while she was a trooper, the jet lag and the booze had had its' effect and I couldn't go a second round and called it a night. She showered, I gave her 2 k, she gave me her line and a hell of a kiss and we parted. Great first night in the LOS!Great report! Was this your first trip to LOS?

Did you do a ton of research before landing up or just light reading? Or did you just sort of wing it? Point I am trying to make is, no matter what you do, you always end up having a good time in Pattaya if you are relaxed and not too worried by comments from others about what you pay or who you shag. As UV rightly said, what you pay is your business. Who you shag is even more personal.

Stay safe and have fun.

[Sammy1968]

Thanks for comments.

I did a lot of research via this site and other sites before I came.

I had two days to enjoy before heading to Bangkok, so knew what I wanted / could do.

Yeah, paid a little too much, but the exchange rate makes me aware that 500 baht is only about $20 NZ, and I won't quibble over that if a lass does good service.

Also I'm a softy and am horrified by the poverty in Thailand, so tip a lot.

If a girl shows kindness, I'm a sucker.

[Axiata]

Great report! Was this your first trip to LOS?

Did you do a ton of research before landing up or just light reading? Or did you just sort of wing it? Point I am trying to make is, no matter what you do, you always end up having a good time in Pattaya if you are relaxed and not too worried by comments from others about what you pay or who you shag. As UV rightly said, what you pay is your business. Who you shag is even more personal.

Stay safe and have fun.Could not agree more. Pattaya is a go with the flow kind of place and Sometimes too much planning takes the mystery out of a tour. My last trip there I had a lot of plans and actually did none of them. Just got side tracked and found there was so much to do and so many girls.

Great report and made me think that maybe it is time to give a beach road babe a fling. Never done a street FL but after reading this report I may relax and enjoy the ride with one when there in two weeks time. Never know unless you give it a go.

Happy Hunting.

[MrManGuy]

Are soi 6ST rooms in action?

[Blanquiceleste]

Could not agree more. Pattaya is a go with the flow kind of place and Sometimes too much planning takes the mystery out of a tour. My last trip there I had a lot of plans and actually did none of them. Just got side tracked and found there was so much to do and so many girls.

Great report and made me think that maybe it is time to give a beach road babe a fling. Never done a street FL but after reading this report I may relax and enjoy the ride with one when there in two weeks time. Never know unless you give it a go.

Happy Hunting.That is the spirit. I am a relatively new member to this forum but I have been visiting mongering destinations in SEA, particularly LOS for nearly 2 decades now. And each time has been a complete blast, no exceptions.

So over the years I relied on some word of mouth, some light reading and pure instinct to find my way. And it turned out great each time. I did have a few bad experiences, but those were one off incidents and had little impact on the overall trip. You could a truckload of planning and still have bad experiences.

IMHO the more you plan the more you set yourself up for disappointment.

[DavidSchmauch]

Been here before, about 10 years ago, but don't remember lack of talent, smell of sewer everywhere and aggressive drivers. Well, things change, but in my opinion Phuket is a small paradise compared to this commercial beach reminiscent to those in America. One thing I must admit are those lovely German restaurants which I could not find in Berlin (I spent spring in Germany where almost all restaurants are Italian). Rented a place here in Pattaya on Photisan street from a Danish guy who, when I told him I'm a German said 'you're in luck, 90%of tourists and business in Pattaya are German, not sure what it means exactly as I see people from other European nations around, Australians and even Russians, so I guess it is very international. But those German restaurants are very good. I even went to Armenian restaurant and had an amazing ethnic plate with 5 kinds of minced meat, fresh mixed salad and some beer. LE Boulanger is cafe near Dolphin Circle I love the most, very expensive but it has great atmosphere.

Question; is Pattaya the biggest resort for sex tourism in the world? I have travelled almost entire world for mongering (SE Asia, South and Central America, Ukraine and Czech Republic, parts of Africa etc) but have never seen anything like this, the Danish man told me there is 1100 bars on this mega beach and every bar has 20-50 girls. Anyways, despite the lack of talent compared to BKK, I found a few model material girls, had a lot of fun, even anal is not a problem with some of them. Prices are fixed at 1300 for short term and 2500 for long term. BKK, for comparison is twice that, girls are better looking out there, but you can find some here in Pattaya too in spite of low season, BTW, it is not raining here at all so I guess I'm lucky if I overlook this incredible humidity which is so annoying. Anyways, having a good time, will stay here for three weeks and hope for the best.

Suggestions with bars and restaurants please, any other entertainment, would like to see and experience as much as possible.

Thanks brothers.

[DavidSchmauch]

Had a girl yesterday from Soi 6 in a dirty room, I was not impressed at all, it was a short term at first and when she did let me do anal I invited her for overnight at my place, it was fun and after some more anal she let me kick it raw and even film it for a few minutes, her bar is called O bar and she goes by June. Her brother died in a motorcycle accident last night so she went back to Isaan for a week, I am not making this up, we had sex last night and in the phone rang, it was horrible, she burst in tears crying hysterically etc, anyways, its never a pleasant experience to see anyone suffer. Back to her O bar on Soi 6, do not go upstairs, it looks like hotels in Tijuana.

[Dinghy]

King's birthday today. Tons and tons of girls on Beach Road.So much for the tum ruat beach road crackdown?

[Nixonbd]

Visiting Patts in early September, a couple questions:

1) Current USD / baht exchange rate in Patts?

2) Has anyone had any experience with Pattaya Express Taxi from BKK to Pattaya? Have used Limo Pattaya in the past, but PET is a bit cheaper.

[Blanquiceleste]

Visiting Patts in early September, a couple questions:

1) Current USD / baht exchange rate in Patts?

2) Has anyone had any experience with Pattaya Express Taxi from BKK to Pattaya? Have used Limo Pattaya in the past, but PET is a bit cheaper.1 USD = 33.15 THB. But I can bet it will change by early September.

I have never used PET, but I doubt if it will be any cheaper than THB 1300 I pay for a private taxi (standard sedan like a Toyota Altis) when I need one.

Is Limo Taxi sending an actual limousine? Then the higher price might be warranted.

[FL Hawk]

I have never used PET, but I doubt if it will be any cheaper than THB 1300 I pay for a private taxi (standard sedan like a Toyota Altis) when I need one.

I checked on Uber for the fare from BKK to Central Pattaya, and it was something like 1260 Baht. Lyft is not yet in Thailand. Anyone have experience with Uber in the LOS?

[KilledSoul]

I checked on Uber for the fare from BKK to Central Pattaya, and it was something like 1260 Baht. Lyft is not yet in Thailand. Anyone have experience with Uber in the LOS?I don't think uber has developed a lot compared to other countries at-least in BKK. Used it to go to airport, it costed more than the local taxi and was unimpressed by the service (based on one data point, so take it with grain of salt) though the car was pretty good.

[Sunlover2]

1) Current USD / baht exchange rate in Patts?The xe.com USD / THB cross minus 0,1 baht will get you very close to what the competitive money changes are offering. It always helps with acceptance to have pristine condition high denomination latest issue USD notes.

SL.

[Banana Boi]

Just google "Pattaya taxi" and you will find many taxi companies that charge as low as 1000 baht from Suvarnabhumi airport to Pattaya. I prefer the female driver companies and pay a bit more but that's just me.

[Horatio]

I am in pattaya and need to get some testosterone cypiate. I take it at home but forgot it. How do I tell if the pharmacy is selling the real thing? I do not want to risk getting something that isn't the real thing. I found dome at one pharmacy, I don't know the name hough because it was in thai with no english. Thank you for any advice.

[Horatio]

I was walking down the street and a lb came up to me and tried to pick me up. I said no thanks and tried to be nice. She was insistent. She grabbed my junk and I pushed her away, not really a shove. Anyway she left me alone. An hour later I went to buy some water at 7/11 and went to get my money. It was all gone and the pocket it was in was unzipped. It was a little less then 1000 baht. And was loose and no wallet. I guess in the big scheme of things it doesn't matter. But still be wary when people put there hands on you. It might be a ruse to pickpocket.

[Banana Boi]

Just finished a 3 pm stroll down Soi 6 for you guys. Over half the bars are closed. The ones that were open only had 1-4 girls in them with the odd exception like Ruby. Ruby had a young petite cute one who I will go back for. She was maybe only 1 of 2 doable girls for me on the entire Soi. Most were downright older and ugly. Never seen it this bad and I have seen some bad days on Soi 6 even before the rule change. Today's walk was to update you guys only. Seeing one of my regulars tonight and saving my energy.What a difference a week or so makes. Maybe because this time I walked down the 6 at 5 pm or because today is Friday. Tons and tons of nice Soi 6 girls, many young ones too. Every 3rd bar or so on the North side seemed to have someone nice. No one would be disappointed with what I saw today. It was the best I have seen the 6.

[Blanquiceleste]

I checked on Uber for the fare from BKK to Central Pattaya, and it was something like 1260 Baht. Lyft is not yet in Thailand. Anyone have experience with Uber in the LOS?You might find a fare that is cheaper but you won't find a rider who will take that trip. Pattaya Taxi drivers had recently roughed up a lady driver thinking she was an Uber driver. So most guys in BKK who driver for Uber won't take a trip to Pattaya.

And if this matters in anyway. Uber is still illegal in Thailand.

[Mr Enternational]

I was walking down the street and a lb came up to me and tried to pick me up. I said no thanks and tried to be nice. She was insistent. She grabbed my junk and I pushed her away, not really a shove. Anyway she left me alone. An hour later I went to buy some water at 7/11 and went to get my money. It was all gone and the pocket it was in was unzipped. It was a little less then 1000 baht. And was loose and no wallet. I guess in the big scheme of things it doesn't matter. But still be wary when people put there hands on you. It might be a ruse to pickpocket.Smart man. No wallet and carrying less than 1000 baht. In the scope of things you came out pretty damn good. By the way, if it is in the pharmacy then I will say it is what it is labeled as.

[Sunlover2]

I am in pattaya and need to get some testosterone cypiate. I take it at home but forgot it. How do I tell if the pharmacy is selling the real thing? I do not want to risk getting something that isn't the real thing. I found dome at one pharmacy, I don't know the name hough because it was in thai with no english. Thank you for any advice.Do you need a prescription for this stuff?

No experience here; but if you have a concern about fakes and cost was no object I would see if you can find a retail pharmacy inside or associated with a reputable hospital.

SL.

[Rob Jones]

Hi all,

I hope this is appropriate, I have stumbled across this profile on social media and I'm wondering if any members have had the pleasure and can give some feedback. Her name is Modza and she is based in Pattaya. If it is a real profile I will definitely give her a shot, or two.

Thanks, Rob.

[Horatio]

I went into a gogo club, and the woman who seated me told some young woman to come sit with me. I am mid 50's. I asked her how old she was and she is 20. I buy her a drink and put my hand on her thigh. She was nice enough but I couldn't help but think she didn't want some as old as her grandpa to be doing that. I met another bar girl who ismid 40's. She seems more my speed.

I was here 12 years ago and hints have changed. I don't think I was ever asked to buy a lady drink last time I was here. Now it is all the time. I was here 2 months the first time. This time I think a week and a half, then off to phuket. Before I would go to the same club pretty much every night. I had a couple favorites who would come and go sitting with me all evening. The gogol don't seem so receptive to that now. The music in some is terrible, just a dance beat and nothing to listen to. I did a lot of exploring the city last time, since I had plenty of time. Part of it is surely me being older.

[Horatio]

Smart man. No wallet and carrying less than 1000 baht. In the scope of things you came out pretty damn good. By the way, if it is in the pharmacy then I will say it is what it is labeled as.It wasn't smarts, just luck. I do think I am a bit smarter now though.

[SenatorDavis]

I checked on Uber for the fare from BKK to Central Pattaya, and it was something like 1260 Baht. Lyft is not yet in Thailand. Anyone have experience with Uber in the LOS?I booked online via TomTaxi in English.

For 1400 Baht, had clean Toyota CAmry to myself frOm Pattaya Marriott to DMK.

I think it's a little cheaper to BKK or other parts of Bangkok. Trip took approx 2.5 HR.

[Banana Boi]

I am mid 50's. I asked her how old she was and she is 20. I buy her a drink and put my hand on her thigh. She was nice enough but I couldn't help but think she didn't want some as old as her grandpa to be doing that. I met another bar girl who ismid 40's. She seems more my speed.Unless you look older than mid 50's you are not too old for a 20 year old girl in Thailand. Most guys I see look about 65-70+ imo.


I was here 12 years ago and hints have changed. I don't think I was ever asked to buy a lady drink last time I was here. Now it is all the time. I was here 2 months the first time. This time I think a week and a half, then off to phuket. Before I would go to the same club pretty much every night. I had a couple favorites who would come and go sitting with me all evening. The gogol don't seem so receptive to that now. The music in some is terrible, just a dance beat and nothing to listen to. I did a lot of exploring the city last time, since I had plenty of time. Part of it is surely me being older.You don't have to buy a lady drink just because a waitress sends a girl over to you or a random girl comes to sit beside you. Just politely say no and select the one you want. My rule of thumb is if I let myself DFK her or allow her to give me a HJ then I have committed myself to buying her a lady drink. Yes, Pattaya is MUCH different if you stay a long time or live here. You accumulate many regular gogo girls who don't push for drinks.

[UltraHappy]

The YouTuber, "Mr. Where Are You Going? Just published this Soi 6 video from July 31st:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AlOnkb0ZDs&t=46

I'm not sure of the time of day of this video, but judging by the length of the shadows at the end of the video as he exits Soi 6 (and extrapolating the sun's angle in the sky therefrom), the video appears to be taken sometime mid-afternoon.

The video shows the bars filled with plenty of girls, at least in the front of each bar. I didn't see any particularly attractive girls in this video but then again, you don't get to see directly into each bar from the angle of the filming.

In any case, I was surprised at how much activity there appears to be on Soi 6 mid-day given the June / July reports that seemed to suggest that Soi 6 would be more or less dead before 6 pm.

[Horatio]

Do I tip food servers in Thailand? Is it 15 %?

[Horatio]

Unless you look older than mid 50's you are not too old for a 20 year old girl in Thailand. Most guys I see look about 65-70+ imo.

You don't have to buy a lady drink just because a waitress sends a girl over to you or a random girl comes to sit beside you. Just politely say no and select the one you want. My rule of thumb is if I let myself DFK her or allow her to give me a HJ then I have committed myself to buying her a lady drink. Yes, Pattaya is MUCH different if you stay a long time or live here. You accumulate many regular gogo girls who don't push for drinks.I was seated with 3 women yesterday and asked 4 or 5 times if I wanted to buy them a drink. I said no, but still I wish they wouldn't ask especially with 3 there. It was the server who kept asking. How do I go about getting a HJ, from one?

My plan is to start going to beer bars a bit more and leave the gogo bars alone a bit.

I am taking a woman to a Buddhist temple today. I am looking forward to that. I found a pretty girl on one of the dating sights that does massage. I think I will see her tommorrow.

Maybe a 20 yo prefers me over a 70 year old, but it is hard to believe that a fresh young woman just starting in the gogo business wouldn't be a bit depressed about the idea of me groping her after only just meeting.

One of my goals here is to meet up with a 20 year old who is under 5 ft and under 100 lbs. I see a few but not a lot.

[Gin And Tonic]

Do I tip food servers in Thailand? Is it 15 %?It's small money so best to make it 30%.

[Banana Boi]

UH, I saw WAY more girls yesterday at 5 pm than in that video.


Do I tip food servers in Thailand? Is it 15 %?Not necessary to tip here. I learned from my thai girls only to tip around 20 baht. I will tip a bit more if eating at a more expensive steak house or I like my server. If you want your server to keep the tip, hand the money to her directly.


I was seated with 3 women yesterday and asked 4 or 5 times if I wanted to buy them a drink. I said no, but still I wish they wouldn't ask especially with 3 there. It was the server who kept asking. Which gogo bar (s) are you having issues with servers pushing for lady drinks?

If you want me to make you some recommendations on which gogo bars to go to, PM me.

[Member #4591]

Hi all,

I hope this is appropriate, I have stumbled across this profile on social media and I'm wondering if any members have had the pleasure and can give some feedback. Her name is Modza and she is based in Pattaya. If it is a real profile I will definitely give her a shot, or two.

Thanks, Rob.First of all Rob, she is nothing to write home about. A big long shot asking this don't you think? If you were asking about a girl working at a Gogo or massage shop identified with a name and number, we often can help. But to ask about a random freelancer from an unknown website or chat app, it's almost impossible. Do what most of us do with freelancers. See them and post about your experience. For example, where you met her? Thai Friendly, we chat, Imsomnia or another. How much you paid, quality of service and so on. Why are you so reluctant to pull the trigger on a freelancer without reading a review beforehand. Judging by her looks and being in Pattaya, what's the most money it will set you back? 1,500 Baht for St amd maybe 2,000-2,500 for LT? If you are not willing to write reviews and try girls and are only looking for us to provide you with information on random freelancers, then you have come to the wrong place. If you can't afford to spen 1,500-2,000 in Pattaya without someone posting a stellar review so you can be more comfortable to engage her, then you can't afford to come to Pattaya. I hope you understand my points. Now contact her, bang her, and then come and write a review about it. Simple and easy.



I have booked my flight for my first trip to Thailand in February and after reading the different Thailand Reports I'm bursting with impatience to get there and to get amongst it all. Can anyone tell me if the reviews on the Devils Den website are accurate as it on my wish list to visit there? Also is the Kittens club at the Penthouse Hotel open now?

Thanks in advance.Secondly, you are making the trip 7 months later. This freelancer could be long gone by then. The girls will not want to waste time making plans with some unknown guy for 7 months later. She will forget you after a few hours let alone 7 months. Give it a feast. Do what you did in Indonesia and do after you arrive. Also post a dam report about your experience as well.

[FunExplorer]

Woke up at 10 AM. Had breakfast and headed to Honey 2 around 12.30. Good selection of girls. Chose a very nice girl for TBH 3500. Had fantastic time with her. Tipped 100 and she was happy. Would visit again.

In the evening went to several Go Go Bars. Finally settled at Sweethearts. One was a cutie and at about 165 cms fairly tall for a Thai. Decided to take her and had a drink with her. Accepted her demand of 2000 plus 1000 bar fine. I was pestered by her friend for a threesome, who too was nice but not a beauty like the other girl, but almost as tall as her. The price quoted was same and she did not budge. But my chosen girl too was requesting that I take her and she promised a nice session for me. I relented finally.

I did not regret my decision to spend TBH 6000 plus drinks for these girls. Had a fantastic session in the room with each of them competing to please me. Came out finally after multiple sessions and BJ. Tipped the girls TBH 200 each and saw them off. The night appeared young still at 11.45.

Continued hunting in other joints. Finally went into first floor of a Go Go bar. Cannot remember the name now. There were hardly three or four customers and five girls. The girls were average and one of them, I would say was good, rather best among them. Almost all the men left place by 1 AM and surprisingly I was the only one! But the girls were dancing mechanically except the girl I mentioned and I decided to take her. So, had a drink with her and then got drinks to all the other four girls plus bar tender. Had very nice time till 2 AM and left with the girl. I would say that the session with her was good. Saw her off finally at 5 AM and tipped her TBH 200. The agreed price was TBH 2000 all inclusive.

[Sunlover2]

Do I tip food servers in Thailand? Is it 15 %?Tipping in Thailand is traditionally a token acknowledgement of good service. A service charge (10%) is already included in the price. Well actually there are really three pricing schemes:

1) The stated price is what you pay (price includes service charge and sales tax).

2) The stated price is then "plus" (price includes service charge) and 7% sales tax is added to the bill.

3) The stated price is then "plus plus" where both 10% service charge and 7% sales tax are added to the bill.

For a tip it is customary to round up to the nearest baht note and leave the small baht change. So if the bill is 448 baht leave 460 baht in notes, or leave the small change from bigger bills. Of course if it is a nicer establishment you can leave a bit more of a tip, but in any case the basic service charge is included in the total one way or the other.

SL.

[Mr Enternational]

I was seated with 3 women yesterday and asked 4 or 5 times if I wanted to buy them a drink. I said no, but still I wish they wouldn't ask especially with 3 there. It was the server who kept asking. How do I go about getting a HJ, from one?Me: A drink? She can't be thirsty. She has not done anything to make her thirsty yet.

Like Banana Boi said, drinks need to be earned, not just given out because someone comes to sit next to you.

Take their hand and put it on your dick.


Maybe a 20 yo prefers me over a 70 year old, but it is hard to believe that a fresh young woman just starting in the gogo business wouldn't be a bit depressed about the idea of me groping her after only just meeting.I guess you have yet to realize that that is why they are there. If there were no 50 year old men around to grope them, then they would be out of a job. And to some it may be less depressing sitting around in the ac with a guy groping them, than working outside in the scorching sun on a rice farm. I am always a bit depressed about going to work too though, so I can sympathize.

[Nixonbd]

1 USD = 33.15 THB. But I can bet it will change by early September.

I have never used PET, but I doubt if it will be any cheaper than THB 1300 I pay for a private taxi (standard sedan like a Toyota Altis) when I need one.

Is Limo Taxi sending an actual limousine? Then the higher price might be warranted.I hope the rate goes up, I was getting 35 b to the dollar in January.

PET charges 1200 each way; Limo Pattaya, who we have used in the past is up to 1500 each way.

We are two bigger dudes, so prefer to pay for a decent ride. Also prefer to have someone meeting us at BKK when we arrive.

I will give PET a try. Thanks.

[Banana Boi]

My plan is to start going to beer bars a bit more and leave the gogo bars alone a bit.You may want to give Billabong beer bar in LK Metro a try. Surprisingly I saw a couple of decent younger ones there the other night. Usually it's over 30's but you seem to be ok with that. While you're there check out some of the LK metro gogo bars. More laid back than Walking Street.

[Kerrstar]

For a tip it is customary to round up to the nearest baht note and leave the small baht change. So if the bill is 448 baht leave 460 baht in notes, or leave the small change from bigger bills. Of course if it is a nicer establishment you can leave a bit more of a tip, but in any case the basic service charge is included in the total one way or the other.
Also in a lot of places they will bring out coins instead of notes, I think this being a hint that the coins are about the right amount of tip, say 30 baht if the bill is small. I usually take the coins and give them notes because the coins are useful for the BTS. 10% on top of the service fee is enough if the service has been pretty good.

[FL Hawk]

Not necessary to tip here. I learned from my thai girls only to tip around 20 baht. I will tip a bit more if eating at a more expensive steak house or I like my server. If you want your server to keep the tip, hand the money to her directly.

I have been wrestling with the tipping issue since I first visited here. When I am out with my Thai GF I let her handle most all of the spending, and she will tip more or less a fixed amount, such as BB's recommended 20 Baht, rather than a percentage. (I think she only tips because I question her when she doesn't)!) In other words, I concur with BB's recommendations, though I will still often try to give a 10% tip. If the service happens to be outstanding, I will give more. But who gives outstanding waiter service over here? I mean, how often do the waiters come around in Thailand to ask how the food is, do you need anything else, do you want dessert, are you ready for your check, etc? They do things differently there, which means we should tip differently as well.

[Crocodilexp]

10% on top of the service fee is enough if the service has been pretty good.What's this madness? On top of the service fee? Service fee IS THE TIP. At places that charge a service fee (on top of the price on the menu), there should be no tip, not a single baht, unless the waiter did something extraordinary and unusual. They shouldn't be able to charge for a fixed mandatory tip and get a tip on top of that.

[Member #4698]

What's this madness? On top of the service fee? Service fee IS THE TIP. At places that charge a service fee (on top of the price on the menu), there should be no tip, not a single baht, unless the waiter did something extraordinary and unusual. They shouldn't be able to charge for a fixed mandatory tip and get a tip on top of that.Totally agree, but I don't like coin so I will generally leave the loose change on the table when I pay in cash although it does depend on how much coin there is. One of the benefits of credit cards, aside from the 2% back, is there is no loose change.

[Horatio]

Me: A drink? She can't be thirsty. She has not done anything to make her thirsty yet.

Like Banana Boi said, drinks need to be earned, not just given out because someone comes to sit next to you.

Take their hand and put it on your dick.

I guess you have yet to realize that that is why they are there. If there were no 50 year old men around to grope them, then they would be out of a job. And to some it may be less depressing sitting around in the ac with a guy groping them, than working outside in the scorching sun on a rice farm. I am always a bit depressed about going to work too though, so I can sympathize.So I am giving impressions for what they are worth, and sometimes I am going to be wrong. I think I was wrong on that. I met a real friendly mid 20's last night. The 40 year old was a big let down. I took a girl from some beer bar. I was a bit drunk and told her I might not be able. She said she would make it work. And damned if she didn't.

I agree on the work thing. I asked the 40 year old how she liked her job. She said she didn't really, but it paid better then her last job as a cook. That should have been a warning I guess. The girl last night said she didn't visit home because she missed the money when she did.

I like the beer bars better then gogos. I like playing games.

I will try the putting their hand on my dick thing. Thanks for the replies.

[LaoMan]

I have been wrestling with the tipping issue since I first visited here. When I am out with my Thai GF I let her handle most all of the spending, and she will tip more or less a fixed amount, such as BB's recommended 20 Baht, rather than a percentage. (I think she only tips because I question her when she doesn't)!) In other words, I concur with BB's recommendations, though I will still often try to give a 10% tip. If the service happens to be outstanding, I will give more. But who gives outstanding waiter service over here? I mean, how often do the waiters come around in Thailand to ask how the food is, do you need anything else, do you want dessert, are you ready for your check, etc? They do things differently there, which means we should tip differently as well.For some of us that obsequiousness is not good service. I do not want a waiter asking me how I like my food; they don't give a stuff, so why should they ask? I realise this sort of behaviour is the norm in the US, but people in other countries are not happy with this. A good waiter is unobtrusive until he / she is required. If I ask for advice, say about a certain wine, and get a good recommendation, that is what I regard as good service. This "Hi my name is. And I am your server tonight. " is rubbish I can do without.

[Horatio]

Say I take a woman back to the motel at 10. We are finished by 11, then what? Neither of us would be ready for sleep. Do we go back out and do what?

When I was here long ago, I would sleep and assumed she did also. I don't know if the night life lasted as late then. Now I am not ready for sleep til later and would just lie awake.

[Banana Boi]

Say I take a woman back to the motel at 10. We are finished by 11, then what? Neither of us would be ready for sleep. Do we go back out and do what?
Take her to eat, go to a late movie, go experience a Thai bar on the Dark Side, go play pool, go to a disco, take her to some gogo bars, watch TV with her and grope her for a couple hours before you sleep. it's all up to you. The fair is on now. Located on 3rd Road behind Central Festival. Girls love it there. Otherwise, save some cash and do ST and go get a second ST girl at midnight.

[APReport]

Fan stands across the road from Tahitian Queen. Petite, under 5 ft, slender, straight dark hair, white skin. Spoke English, said she's 20 why, from Surin, first week in Pattaya. Quoted 1000ST. In the hotel room she wanted me to pay first. Told her I always pay after. She demanded that I pay first. I said then she can leave. She refused to leave and started shouting for the money. As I called hotel security she threatened to phone her police boyfriend and claimed that she's only 19 thus I would have to pay 10000 to stay out of jail. She pretended to phone someone. Hotel security escorted her out.

Two nights later from a distance I witnessed her arguing with a customer at her spot on BR.

[NishimuraEU]

Hi,

Has anyone tried freelancers that advertise on ThaiFriendly?

Some of them assist at their rooms in Condos. Is that safe? Are the photos real?

As I am not really into bars and all that stuff, I am interested in more discreet options like freelancers during the day. So I wonder if the ones on ThaiFriendly could be a solution.

Thanks.

[MrManGuy]

I love to work, but I am not rice farmer earning 10 k baht a month. When in Asia live as the Asians do. Don't think like western. Morals don't matter here.

Soi 6 seems good recently. More pretty girls than I remember.

I really want to go for a walk along the beech; but I hear it is not safe at night.

[Horatio]

I was really wanting to have a small woman. I found one today, about 35 yo, 4'10, and maybe 90 lbs. I went to finger her butt hole, she asked if I wanted to do her butt. I said yes, and she said wait a minute and ran to the bath room. She come back out a couple minutes later and said no butt tonight, but next time. After things were done I asked her if I come back tommorrow we could do in her ass. She said sure. This is where she took my shoes. She walked over in probably 4 inch hells and was having a tough time. She put on my sandals and told me to get them when I get her tommorrow. I try really hard to go back when I say I will, so I knew I was going back there tommorrow. Anyway she ended up taking my sandals. It is just now 1030 and her bar is about 5 minute walk. I think I will go back tonight. They are about $50 Chaco sandals that I love.

Also I was having a hard time cumming, she pulled off condom and thought that would help. She was not rough looking but not pristine. She had a good body but some scars. Bar fine was 300, and I only had 1000 so that was total. I think she would have done whatever I wanted. It kind of worries me, cheap, eager to please, butt stuff, no condom. We used condom, I said we had to. Should that be any kind of worry. I am guessing people here would rate her on lower half of scale.

[Mr Enternational]

It kind of worries me, cheap, eager to please, butt stuff, no condom. We used condom, I said we had to. Should that be any kind of worry. I am guessing people here would rate her on lower half of scale.Well according to most people here the best girls always have customers and are more in demand, hence the higher probability of them contracting something and passing it on to you. If your girl is on the lower half of the scale then maybe that would mean nobody ever takes her so there is less probability of her contracting something and passing it on to you.

[Horatio]

I did a bit of exploring today. Went to soi 6 and soi buakhao. I am not sure I was at soi buakhao. I am pretty sure I found soi diana or soi LK metro. I know I was on soi bukhao. I found one place off buakhao full of bars and gogos. Buakhao worried me I was going to get ran over. There is no sidewalk and lots of traffic. I am not sure I am going back. The Web page I found on it really talked it up, but I don't know.

The thing I don't like about the gogos on walking street is they are all doing the same thing at the same time. When I was here long ago, beach club was my favorite. They had small dance stages spread out across the club. So if one set of dancers didn't seem interesting I would watch another. I went into several gogos this trip where it is 20 girls lined up on one stage just gyrating monotonously. Some where they never took their top off. The worst, they did that, and after what seemed 10 minutes would rotate one dancer over. All this to just a loud dance beat. I like music that you want to hear in a club.

I also found soi 6. I'm not sure what to think of it either. It seems cool and I will go back again tommorrow. It has several BJ bars. There are many other bars that look the same as a BJ bar so I don't know what I am entering when I go I to one. There were a lot of girls and quite a few young, pretty ones. I would like to find me a really pretty small young woman and there were some there. I am going to get the girl from post below tommorrow and probably the one from a few posts ago on Tuesday, so maybe on Wednesday. I have never fucked a butt so I am kind of looking forward to that tommorrow.

[ThatGuy68]

First off I'd like to say thank you to all who helped me feel great about my first adventure overseas. Still have a couple things that I have question's about.

I haven't really been nervous on the planning phase of this trip until someone told a story about a nana bar experience and another monger (BKKDOG I think) pointed out it was a post op ladyboy bar. I feel very knowledgeable about lots of things thanks to forums. But is there a complete list somewhere of the ladyboy gogos or which ones are mixed and so on? I searched on here and came up with a few but man I'd like a exact list. HAHA. Thought of drinking one too many and getting into that situation is only thing left bothering me. Studying ways with arms or Adams apple or big feet or tall leaves me not too sure.

Motobike. I have a well reviewed taxi service for transportation from airport to BKK and then to Pattaya. Does anyone have a goto motorbike favorite that speaks decent english? I plan on being everywhere all throughout the day / night for some good reports. Motobike seems like a easier way with less walking. Especially when visiting some of the off-the-beaten path gentleman clubs, spas and restaurants. As well as Benjamit coffee shop, fountain of youth, temple of truth and beertopia. In Pattaya I will be utilizing the baht bus most of the time. But anyone have a good local motobike favorite that understands english?

Finally got my membership so feel free to pm me Motobike information.

Thanks.

[Horatio]

First off I'd like to say thank you to all who helped me feel great about my first adventure overseas. Still have a couple things that I have question's about.

I haven't really been nervous on the planning phase of this trip until someone told a story about a nana bar experience and another monger (BKKDOG I think) pointed out it was a post op ladyboy bar. I feel very knowledgeable about lots of things thanks to forums. But is there a complete list somewhere of the ladyboy gogos or which ones are mixed and so on? I searched on here and came up with a few but man I'd like a exact list. HAHA. Thought of drinking one too many and getting into that situation is only thing left bothering me. Studying ways with arms or Adams apple or big feet or tall leaves me not too sure.

Motobike. I have a well reviewed taxi service for transportation from airport to BKK and then to Pattaya. Does anyone have a goto motorbike favorite that speaks decent english? I plan on being everywhere all throughout the day / night for some good reports. Motobike seems like a easier way with less walking. Especially when visiting some of the off-the-beaten path gentleman clubs, spas and restaurants. As well as Benjamit coffee shop, fountain of youth, temple of truth and beertopia. In Pattaya I will be utilizing the baht bus most of the time. But anyone have a good local motobike favorite that understands english?

Finally got my membership so feel free to pm me Motobike information.

Thanks.I could be wrong so beware. I know it can be hard to tell a ladyboy from a woman sometimes. I accidently went into a ladybar gogo and pass by ladyboy bars on the different streets. With a bunch of them together you will notice. First off there will be a lot of tall "women". I mean the majority and I notice without thinking about it. Second maybe some lady boys are beautiful, but some just look like men. If you see several women who look like men in a bar, then maybe up your awareness. Of course if I am wrong then I wouldn't know so like I said take my post for what its worth.

I take the baht bus. I think it is better way to see city. But if you want motorbike driver they are everywhere. Just take the closest one. If they don't speak enough english just go to the next one, or take a baht bus. Motorbikes will be better if you are headed somewhere specific that takes some getting used to, but for motel to bars baht bus will work fine unless your motel is some place odd.

You might be better off waiting for someone e with more experience then me for a better answer though.

[HorneeFalang]

I haven't really been nervous on the planning phase of this trip until someone told a story about a nana bar experience and another monger (BKKDOG I think) pointed out it was a post op ladyboy bar. I feel very knowledgeable about lots of things thanks to forums. But is there a complete list somewhere of the ladyboy gogos or which ones are mixed and so on? I searched on here and came up with a few but man I'd like a exact list. HAHA. Thought of drinking one too many and getting into that situation is only thing left bothering me. Studying ways with arms or Adams apple or big feet or tall leaves me not too sure Relax about the Katoey bars. If in doubt simply ask. I have never had an issue when I have sought clarification. "Are you ladyboy?" if yes, simply tell them that they are very beautiful but you want a lady, get up and leave. Under no circumstances be disrespectful or show aggression. Trust me, I have seen other rookies freak out and lose it. This has ended in blood on occasions. Not Thai blood. As far as arms and Adam's apples goes, be weary. In this country we have many skilled plastic surgeons. My checklist is 1) Height. 2) Voice. 3) Veins on back of hands. Its perfectly normal to have the fear of encountering the Katoey. It was something I was always got nervous about as well. These days I ask up front, compliment them and even have bought them a beer. But make it clear you don't want that little something extra. Good luck.

[Mr Enternational]

I could be wrong so beware. I know it can be hard to tell a ladyboy from a woman sometimes.It is not hard at all. If you closed your eyes, could you tell the difference whether there was a man or woman talking to you? Ladyboys do not sound like women. Maybe it is like magic; you let your eyes fool you.

[BionicMan]

This 300mtr long Soi starts from triangle bar, just off soi buakhow opposite LK metro entrance.

You will find tens of massage places one after the other.

Each will have from 3-4 to 10-12 girls of any kind, shape, age and. Gender (not strictly dedicated, so you need to be atebyive of that is not your scene and ask before picking, even if some are prey obvious).

Walk it up and down to get a feeling before choosing one where to lay your bones.

Prices are average on 200 baht for the venue, a sort of BF / ST bed with curtain partitions.

The fee to the girl you negotI ate directly, even of one thousand bahts will make them happy and not moaning.

Cheap Charlie's can possibiy negotiate for less. Being now a buyer market there might be a good Success rate.

Few bars are scattered every now and then and. They do offer massage too! Surprise surprise.

I have bumps into a rather new one, maybe a 2-3 month old, called Anny's, halfway throUgh the Soi.

6-8 girls are there to give you a good time and check the chemistry. Do buy them a LD and they will be grateful.

A nice clean room is in the back, with brand new bathroom / shower facility.

350 is the BF and ST room, plus the fee to the girl.

Slightly more than a massage, all in all, but you can sample goods and attitude before buying.

(Side note: check the farang manager or owner does not take you in one of the pictures he posts on FB to promote the bar.

He is a bit careless about it and did not understand not all customers want such a 15 minute of glory as Warhol said.

You can easily find the page on FB by searching under Anny 's bar.

Here is a good shot of Prew, great oral skills and might be even worth LT or a few days (never break the 3-day rule, folks) for those interested. Very affectionate, slim but not skinny, enjoys bed activities if you trigger the right switch in her.

[Banana Boi]

Soi 25 aka Chaiyapoon can definitely have a decent girl or two on occasion. I walk through it often. Typical Soi Honey rates of 500/1000. If you go to Soi 25, don't forget to check out the new G club, The Den. Nice place, cheap drinks, friendly girls. If you are missing one of your girls from Heaven G club in Pratumnak Hill, you will likely find her at The Den.


IBut is there a complete list somewhere of the ladyboy gogos or which ones are mixed and so on?

Pattaya is a bit different than BKK for gogo bars. In Nana, there are many gogo bars that have ladyboys interspersed with girls. there are also many gogo bars in Nana that are strictly ladyboys. In Pattaya, off the top of my head I can only think of one ladyboy gogo bar named Katooey R Us or something like that, located near Windmill. there are 2 or 3 other gogo bars in Walking Street and LK Metro with what I believe are the odd ladyboys in them but they are very obvious ladyboys.

[Horatio]

The maid came to clean my room. I was going to leave but stayed. After she left I opened a bottle of coke and it fizzled on the floor. I went out into the hall and motioned her to look and she mopped it up. I don't understand the next part. When she was done she held out a handful of change and asked me how much. At first I didn't understand what she was asking, but finally figured she wanted me to count it. It was 19 baht. She said okay and left. What was that about? The only thing I can think of is it was change I left on the desk top and she thought it was tip and wanted to make sure I knew how much it was. If not that I don't have a clue.

[Xfreak0000]

The maid came to clean my room. I was going to leave but stayed. After she left I opened a bottle of coke and it fizzled on the floor. I went out into the hall and motioned her to look and she mopped it up. I don't understand the next part. When she was done she held out a handful of change and asked me how much. At first I didn't understand what she was asking, but finally figured she wanted me to count it. It was 19 baht. She said okay and left. What was that about? The only thing I can think of is it was change I left on the desk top and she thought it was tip and wanted to make sure I knew how much it was. If not that I don't have a clue.She may be myopia?

If not, she may have wanted to tell you in a different way that your tip was too small.

If not, no clue for me as well.

[Pipe Layer99]

The maid came to clean my room. I was going to leave but stayed. After she left I opened a bottle of coke and it fizzled on the floor. I went out into the hall and motioned her to look and she mopped it up. I don't understand the next part. When she was done she held out a handful of change and asked me how much. At first I didn't understand what she was asking, but finally figured she wanted me to count it. It was 19 baht. She said okay and left. What was that about? The only thing I can think of is it was change I left on the desk top and she thought it was tip and wanted to make sure I knew how much it was. If not that I don't have a clue.That's probably what happened. In my experience, the maids don't take change from your desk. As for tips, when I stay in a hotel with decent maid service, I usually leave 1 or 2 bills on the bed for them (20 - 40 baht depending on how messy the room was from the previous night). Then when they make up the bed, they understand it's a tip. Otherwise, I hand them a tip directly.

[Horatio]

The woman who took my shoes said she did it to make sure I came back the next day. She also suggested several times no condom and later told me she wants a baby with a farang. She is 35 , small and has a firm body. No kids, a few scars. She is eager to please and I think she would let me do whatever I want with her. I went back to the bar with her to eat after sex tonight. She left to get cigarettes and the woman owner gave me a sales pitch on what a wonderful woman she is. I am leaving Saturday and the owner was wanting g me to take this woman everyday until then. She is a nice woman, really sexy. She kind of has a bit of a hard life look to her though. She took one of my shirts tonight. She wanted to stay the night but had to look after bar for a bit, so I am waiting on her. She said she has a German sending her money. The bar owner said the woman owes money to the mafia. Anyone have an idea what that could mean?

It was 300 bar fine and 700 last night. I gave her 1200 tonight. I would have liked to see her agian, but all I want is a bit of fun. She seems to be angling for more.

[Rob Jones]

First of all Rob, she is nothing to write home about. A big long shot asking this don't you think? If you were asking about a girl working at a Gogo or massage shop identified with a name and number, we often can help. But to ask about a random freelancer from an unknown website or chat app, it's almost impossible. Do what most of us do with freelancers. See them and post about your experience. For example, where you met her? Thai Friendly, we chat, Imsomnia or another. How much you paid, quality of service and so on. Why are you so reluctant to pull the trigger on a freelancer without reading a review beforehand. Judging by her looks and being in Pattaya, what's the most money it will set you back? 1,500 Baht for St amd maybe 2,000-2,500 for LT? If you are not willing to write reviews and try girls and are only looking for us to provide you with information on random freelancers, then you have come to the wrong place. If you can't afford to spen 1,500-2,000 in Pattaya without someone posting a stellar review so you can be more comfortable to engage her, then you can't afford to come to Pattaya. I hope you understand my points. Now contact her, bang her, and then come and write a review about it. Simple and easy.




Secondly, you are making the trip 7 months later. This freelancer could be long gone by then. The girls will not want to waste time making plans with some unknown guy for 7 months later. She will forget you after a few hours let alone 7 months. Give it a feast. Do what you did in Indonesia and do after you arrive. Also post a dam report about your experience as well.Thanks for your reply.

I possibly could have worded my original post better. My intention was to compare the profile and comments with fact to test the waters with some of these profiles. I'm loath to contact any girls more then 2 to 3 weeks before I go because they either lose interest or want to chat all the time which can be annoying with your wife wondering what all the messages and calls are about 5555. I am getting a better understanding of pricing although my budget will be about 20,000 per day not including my hotel. I have been an avid reader of the forum for some time but I have recently joined so I can give back and I will be trying to do daily post when I'm in Thailand.

I'm expecting a total experience from Indonesia and looking forward to having my tackle fondled by 2 or 3 Thai lasses while drinking a beer, that never happens in Indo as the scene is more modest.

Thanks again "Dog" I find your post very helpful.

Rob.

[Juicyclamlover]

The woman who took my shoes said she did it to make sure I came back the next day. She also suggested several times no condom and later told me she wants a baby with a farang. She is 35 , small and has a firm body. No kids, a few scars. She is eager to please and I think she would let me do whatever I want with her. I went back to the bar with her to eat after sex tonight. She left to get cigarettes and the woman owner gave me a sales pitch on what a wonderful woman she is. I am leaving Saturday and the owner was wanting g me to take this woman everyday until then. She is a nice woman, really sexy. She kind of has a bit of a hard life look to her though. She took one of my shirts tonight. She wanted to stay the night but had to look after bar for a bit, so I am waiting on her. She said she has a German sending her money. The bar owner said the woman owes money to the mafia. Anyone have an idea what that could mean?

It was 300 bar fine and 700 last night. I gave her 1200 tonight. I would have liked to see her agian, but all I want is a bit of fun. She seems to be angling for more.If she owes money to the Mafia, it means she has taken a loan from 'money (loan) sharks', and not a formal financial institution like a bank or credit union.

They charge interest by the day so taking out even a small loan from them means the repayments are usually 2 or 3 times more than the actual initial loan amount.

The government has attempted to stamp them out but it's almost impossible, especially in the countryside.

[Juicyclamlover]

That's probably what happened. In my experience, the maids don't take change from your desk. As for tips, when I stay in a hotel with decent maid service, I usually leave 1 or 2 bills on the bed for them (20 - 40 baht depending on how messy the room was from the previous night). Then when they make up the bed, they understand it's a tip. Otherwise, I hand them a tip directly.I always tip directly and have never had a problem with leaving change lying around as I don't like to carry it when I am out.

After my first night I seek out the maid on my floor and give her 100 Baht to clean my room next, that way I get my room done when I leave my room on subsquent days, as I indicate to her I am going out so even if I am out for an hour the room is always ready when I come back.

[DavidSchmauch]

Here I am, roughly about a week and a half into my Pattaya adventure and I have a second to write to my brothers about my experiences so far.

Thai people are phenomenal, I thought Germans were good people but Thai make us look bad. They are completely devoted to pleasing farang and that is the reason we keep coming back and back. It's not sex, honestly, I like Latinas better than Thai women, but Thai women are so pleasant to deal with, they pamper you. I took a trip on motorbike to the jungle nearby Pattaya and it was a blast. Got lost a little bit, and there was this house in the middle of the jungle with pond by it, so beautiful, and people of the house sat on their bikes and led me out to the highway. They are just good people.

Ladyboys; bad news, they are everywhere, good news, they are so pleasant to chat with, they will chat and laugh with you, share stories and drink with you and you feel great, so much love, as long as they know you are not interested, they won't harass you. Motorbike rental, I got it through my Danish landlord, I stay at K Residence off the Photisan Alley, ($150 a month), have a huge studio apartment on 5th floor, city view, so the landlord, his name is Leif, he got the bike for me from a lady who lives nearby and it cost me 150 bhath a day, no deposit, nothing, just plain wonderful. Soi 6, as you all know is popping, good looking girls in their teens and early 20's, I am kicking it raw with a 19 yo girl from Mods bar on Soi 6 and it is just great. Her name is Fei. So nice to hit young meat like that, she is so thigh, sometimes it hurts. And that is it for now, hope you all having a blast like I am, and keep us posted.

Peace brothers.

[Womaniszer]

Hi guys,

I am a regular sex tourist. I just thought to share my sexperiance and learn from members, so I joined this forum.

Good luck.

[Womaniszer]

The maid came to clean my room. I was going to leave but stayed. After she left I opened a bottle of coke and it fizzled on the floor. I went out into the hall and motioned her to look and she mopped it up. I don't understand the next part. When she was done she held out a handful of change and asked me how much. At first I didn't understand what she was asking, but finally figured she wanted me to count it. It was 19 baht. She said okay and left. What was that about? The only thing I can think of is it was change I left on the desk top and she thought it was tip and wanted to make sure I knew how much it was. If not that I don't have a clue.Thai people die for tips.

[Dena0]

Just google "Pattaya taxi" and you will find many taxi companies that charge as low as 1000 baht from Suvarnabhumi airport to Pattaya. I prefer the female driver companies and pay a bit more but that's just me.Would you be able to be more specific about the name / number if the specific female driver taxicab company you use?

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Snip. I got it through my Danish landlord, I stay at K Residence off the Photisan Alley, ($150 a month), have a huge studio apartment on 5th floor, city view. Snip.You got this for $5/ night? How? Booking.com has it at $25/ night from August 14 to September 13.

[BionicMan]

Would you be able to be more specific about the name / number if the specific female driver taxicab company you use?Check your inbox.

[Womaniszer]

Check your inbox.Please inbox me also.

[MrManGuy]

Greetings fellow humans. I too am fellow human.

[WhatDHell]

Greetings fellow humans. I too am fellow human.Now that's a surprise! Thanks for letting us know.

[Pipe Layer99]

You got this for $5/ night? How? Booking.com has it at $25/ night from August 14 to September 13.He was talking about the bike rental. You missed the beginning of the sentence. Plus english is probably not his first language based on the long sentence.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

He was talking about the bike rental. You missed the beginning of the sentence. Plus english is probably not his first language based on the long sentence.It looked like he was talking about the studio when he said $150/ month and the bike when said 150 bhat / day, but they are equivalent so he probably did mean for the bike.

[Rob Jones]

Hi guys,

Can anyone tell me the significance of the Owl tattoos that some of the girls are sporting? I know the meaning of the butterfly but I don't get the owl? It's not life changing if I know or not but does it have criminal links?

Thanks Rob.

[Horatio]

How do I get from Pattaya to Phuket? Do I go back to Bangkok and fly? And if so, I took a bus here for 220 baht, how do I find that price going back to airport?

Thanks.

[Banana Boi]

You can fly out of Utapao airport to Phuket. The Pattaya airport is much closer than driving to Suvarnabhumi or DMK. I've never taken the bus but I believe the main bus terminals are near North Pattaya Road and Sukhumvit and another down near Jomtien at Theppraya and Theprassit. There may be more.

[Dena0]

I don't think uber has developed a lot compared to other countries at-least in BKK. Used it to go to airport, it costed more than the local taxi and was unimpressed by the service (based on one data point, so take it with grain of salt) though the car was pretty good.I took Uber from BKK to Sukhumvit. Good car, 5 minute response time, 300 baht plus tip. All positive experience. Driver's english was non-existent, but that is par for the course with taxicabs too.

[Womaniszer]

You can fly out of Utapao airport to Phuket. The Pattaya airport is much closer than driving to Suvarnabhumi or DMK. I've never taken the bus but I believe the main bus terminals are near North Pattaya Road and Sukhumvit and another down near Jomtien at Theppraya and Theprassit. There may be more.Air Asia Flight No Fd 1100 at 1050 Hrs Pattaya to Phuket Direct Flight.

Good luck.

[Pipe Layer99]

It looked like he was talking about the studio when he said $150/ month and the bike when said 150 bhat / day, but they are equivalent so he probably did mean for the bike.LOL. No way will you get a nice place for just $150 a month. A guy might be able to find a small room for that price, but not a nice studio. I pay about $450 usd a month and it includes a big pool and a fitness center. The first part of the sentence starts with "Motorbike rental". Then it got all jumbled up with the studio/landlord stuff.

I had to read it twice too. I was like huh? ;)


... Motorbike rental, I got it through my Danish landlord, ... he got the bike for me from a lady who lives nearby and it cost me 150 bhath a day, no deposit, nothing, just plain wonderful.

[DavidSchmauch]

Yes, seriously, that's what I pay here in Pattaya, it is about two kilometers from the beach in Na Kluea part of Pattaya and it takes less than ten minutes on the scooter from the apartment to the beach. I love this block because it looks very European, architecture wise and coffee shop named NRA right here outside the building (K-Residence) looks very western. So for anyone interested, the address is Photisan Alley and Photisarn 8, when you see Fresh Mart, turn into the street and you have to see NRA cafe and K Residence sign and there is the office you can see from the street, ask for Leif, Big Danish guy with blue eyes and I'm sure he can give you a good deal. There is also a laundry in the same block.

[Christian G]

How do I get from Pattaya to Phuket? Do I go back to Bangkok and fly? And if so, I took a bus here for 220 baht, how do I find that price going back to airport?

Thanks.Go to Utapao Airport, you don't need to go back BKK or DMK. If you want go back to Bangkok with bus you can use Bell Travel service or use the airport bus that have the Office on Thappraya Road.

[Pipe Layer99]

Been here for less than a month and still haven't gone out to the clubs or bars yet. Had 3 freebies in 3 weeks. So not too bad.

After arrival I hooked up with a girl who kept in touch on a regular basis. Over the past year, I used give her between 300-500 baht (for food) when she stays with me overnight. I would just leave some baht on the table and tell her to take some money if she needs it. This girl has a regular job and as far as I know, she is 'not' part-timer. Of course, who knows what they really do what they do when they are out of your sight. When she stays with me, sometimes she would take 300, other times 500, sometimes nothing. Anyway, before I had left to the states, I told her I would bring her a few gifts when I got back. I brought a nice T-shirt, some chocolate, and a sarong (that I bought here for before I left, cost 150 baht). So maybe that's why she didn't take any baht this time.

Used the online apps for some more success. Found the other 2 freebies there.
Banged a sweet lady from Indonesia 2 weeks ago. She was here on a little vacation. We chatted, and agreed to meet the next day. I went to pick her up near her hotel and drove her around looking for a decent outdoor bar. But not much happening that afternoon and it was cloudy outside so I suggested we go to my place for some drinks. After a few drinks, started kissing, hugging and you know the rest. Very good time. I dropped her off afterwards. She was Great fun! Only cost about 100 baht for the bacardi breezers she wanted.

Found another one last Saturday night. Chatted for awhile between 9.30 - 10 pm. Then we exchanged map locations. I wanted to know where she was located. Next, she called me on video, she wanted to see me. Ok. Conversation was all good. She wanted to come. I asked her if she was sure, because I checked google maps on my laptop while we were talking on video and she was 1 hour and 10 minutes away. I told her how far she was from here and she said ok. She said she will drive here to meet me. I figured, what the heck, we never discussed money, she looks good, and worse case it will only cost me 1000 baht and some extra baht for gas. She showed up just outside the condo area and called me to come down to meet her. We parked her car in the parking area and she came up with only a small toiletry bag. OK, so I figured she was just here for a few hours. Nope. We talked a little, she had a beer, I had about 3 Jack & cokes. Kisses followed and I started to take her clothes off. Mutual sucking, then some good sex. She spent the night. She woke me up in the morning around 11 am and she gave me a nice blow job with no prompting from me. We had sex again and I went back to sleep. LOL. She woke me up a few hours later. She wanted to take me and show me around the area but I said no, I was too tired to get up. So she said she will go eat and then drive home. After she dressed, I walked her to the door and right before she left, I put 500 baht in her hand. She looked surprised and asked what the baht was for. Gas for the car. I told her it was ok, but she still looked confused. She later sent a text and asked again about the money. I explained that she drove an hour here and an hour to go home. The baht is to put more gas in the car. Now she understood and thanked me. She also explained that she didn't want money from me, she only wanted to come meet me and she was happy and .... I said I understand but its only for gas. Everyone was happy.

The majority of the other online girls all got 1000 baht, except for one. Some of the girls were ok, some were better than ok, one was a black chick that I met when I was driving down the soi. LOL.

Regarding the one who got more that 1000. We agreed on 1000 ST, but I ended up giving her an extra 500. This girl could easily ask for 1,500 to 2,000 based on her photos and I'm sure she could get it from a lot of horny guys out here. So I was surprised when she accepted my offer of 1000 for ST. Her pics are very nice and she is that damn pretty in person too. But I'm going to tell her that. This pretty ass girl showed up within 30 minutes. Sweet body with a nice juicy round booty and a small waist. Just my type. She came over and we hit it off. Banged her nice and hard. We both showered and chilled out. She was in no hurry to leave and stayed for awhile longer talking and watching tv. I had another drink or two and then we both got frisky again. So I banged her a second time. Altogether she stayed about 3 hours with two rounds. She never asked for extra baht. But she earned it.
Funny thing, I saw her 2 weeks later and only gave her 1000. She was still good in the bed but something was off. Maybe she was tired. But on this visit, after the first round we showered separately and she got dressed. No problem, 1000 baht and off you go.

That's all the good news. There were a bunch of knuckleheads mixed in the online scene too. So you have to weed them out. Some wanted 1000 but were either ugly, older, or overweight; one asked for 5,000 LOL; two others wanted 1500 for 1 hour. Not for me! Don't put a time limit on me; I had one who agreed to 1200ST. Then she kept texting more instead of getting her butt in the shower. I ask her to stop chatting and go shower and call me after the shower. Agreed. After all, we already set it up so come on. She showers and texts again for the location. I send her the location and tell her I will meet her downstairs. I also tell her that I want a nice blowjob and good boom boom when she arrives. She has the nerve to say she doesn't like smoke. Huh? You don't like to smoke? I told her, I want a good BJ and good boom boom. OK? She says no, not for only 1200 baht. So this chick is thinking she is coming over for just a quick fuck for 1200!? I told her she was crazy if she thinks she can have 1200 just for 1 pop and no BJ. That was a waste of time. This was the first time in 6 years that a girl said some crazy thing like that. Word to the wise, make sure you tell the girl what your requirements are/what you expect. If she had shown up and refused to give a bj, I would have had to send her away with just some taxi money.

Then I had another one who asked for all the information, how much, location, what time? We finish the deal. So naturally I think she is up and will be getting ready after confirming everything right? I do a quick video chat so I can see her live and this dumb girl is still in bed. I tell her to go shower and come over now. She asks, you want me to come now? YES. I'm thinking to myself WTF do you think I want you to do? You agreed and asked for my location. I told her to text me in 20 min after her shower. She was a no-show.
Even for us vets, we still find some knuckleheads. I wouldn't recommend this for new guys or guys with only a few weeks. But I usually stay for many months at a time, in addition to visiting Indonesia and other neighboring countries.

All in all, it's been a decent 3 weeks. Plus the 3 freebies so I'm not complaining. Next week, I will head out and start checking out the bars, gogos, and clubs. And I will start picking up some new numbers to re-build what I call my stand-by list.

[Pipe Layer99]

Yes, seriously, that's what I pay here in Pattaya, it is about two kilometers from the beach in Na Kluea part of Pattaya and it takes less than ten minutes on the scooter from the apartment to the beach. I love this block because it looks very European, architecture wise and coffee shop named NRA right here outside the building (K-Residence) looks very western. So for anyone interested, the address is Photisan Alley and Photisarn 8, when you see Fresh Mart, turn into the street and you have to see NRA cafe and K Residence sign and there is the office you can see from the street, ask for Leif, Big Danish guy with blue eyes and I'm sure he can give you a good deal. There is also a laundry in the same block.If that's the case you got real lucky. A nice big studio for $150. Good for you. Most of the rooms for 150 usd or 5000 baht are just small 15-20 sq meter rooms with a small toilet.

Take a few pics of the place and post them.

[Christian G]

If that's the case you got real lucky..Yes, very very lucky or the Danish man urgently needed money. K Residence on Booking.com is around 25000 baht for one month. But we are off topic here, better to talk about this on Pattaya Hotels Thread.

[Womaniszer]

Been here for less than a month and still haven't gone out to the clubs or bars yet. Had 3 freebies in 3 weeks. So not too bad.
I will start picking up some new numbers to re-build what I call my stand-by list.Nice report sir. Much appreciated that you could get hold of freebies. I am very much familiar to Thailand. I have been AO many times, that now I speak Thai. I know the nature of Thai Girls.

So Sir please don't take it personally, but the stories posted by you are bit hard to digest.

If the are true. Than I would say you are most lucky person and my best wishes for your future freebies target.

Good luck.

[Pipe Layer99]

So Sir please don't take it personally, but the stories posted by you are bit hard to digest.
If the are true. Than I would say you are most lucky person and my best wishes for your future freebies target. Good luck.That's because you don't know me. One more thing, they aren't targets. They're just normal women who have needs and desires. Now, when you meet a lady and she mentions money, that's a whole different ball game. I spend 9 months a year in Asia. Meeting regular girls is easy for me both online and in person. It's getting them to go out with you and then back to your bed. That's where your personality and skills come into play.

[MrManGuy]

Gogo staff ruining this trip for me. Constantly rude constantly pushing me to order another drink. I just go soi6 and ibar. Fuck these guys. Dollhouse is quality. Others can go get fucked. Got quoted a 2 k barfine at 1 am. No Thai angels this trip. But soi 6 does have some quality this time around. GoGo seems to lack quality. Maybe they all on holiday. Anyway, off to awkwardly find a ST at ibar.

[Mr Enternational]

Nice report sir. Much appreciated that you could get hold of freebies. I am very much familiar to Thailand. I have been AO many times, that now I speak Thai. I know the nature of Thai Girls.

So Sir please don't take it personally, but the stories posted by you are bit hard to digest.

If the are true. Than I would say you are most lucky person and my best wishes for your future freebies target.

Good luck.So being a Thai expert and knowing that there are 69 million people in the country, you would assert that all the females are hookers?

Rule of thumb: if you are not doing it at home, don't expect to be able to go to another country and do it. Obviously you are not doing it at home and expect others not to be able to as well. Maybe you only know the nature of Thai hookers and know nothing of Thai girls. There is a difference.

I actually think Pipelayer's numbers are down. Two months ago I had 3 freebies in 1 week. But knowing how he operates (don't know how he stays with the same chick for weeks at a time) I would say he is right on point. After 2 days I am trying to send them back home. Whatever happened to that Thai chick that lives in England that came to see you?

[Paolo99]

I actually think Pipelayer's numbers are down. Two months ago I had 3 freebies in 1 week. But knowing how he operates (don't know how he stays with the same chick for weeks at a time) I would say he is right on point. After 2 days I am trying to send them back home. Whatever happened to that Thai chick that lives in England that came to see you?I agree 100%. It's not difficult to have freebies in Pattaya for any guy that stays for a long time. I've always find it more difficult to get rid of them once you're tired of them.

[Banana Boi]

Gogo staff ruining this trip for me. Constantly rude constantly pushing me to order another drink. I just go soi6 and ibar. Fuck these guys. Dollhouse is quality. Others can go get fucked. Got quoted a 2 k barfine at 1 am. No Thai angels this trip. But soi 6 does have some quality this time around. GoGo seems to lack quality. Maybe they all on holiday. Anyway, off to awkwardly find a ST at ibar.Which gogo bars have lousy staff and which gogo bars are lacking quality?

[Horatio]

I went to a gogo bar on walking street where some of the dancers completely strip. One of the dancers beckoned me over to sit next to the sttage. It was pretty cool in that I could touch. One dancer took my hands and placed it on the pussy of another dancer. You could suck on a nipple if you wanted. One girl was bent over in front of me and I took my hands and spread her cheeks to get a better look.

It was expensive though. I bought one a bar drink. The others said they would rather have a 100 baht tip. You have to tip if you are going to be hands on. Maybe you don't have to but it would be jerk not to. And it escalated from 1 girl to 2 to 3 pretty quick. One of them Slid her hand up my shorts and underpants. It was cool but not something I will do again anytime soon.

[Horatio]

What is the etiquette of switching women at a beer bar? I go to a beer bar and there is a woman there who I have sat with on several occasions. She is nice enough, but there is not really any connection. Also I think she is a tease. Can I sit with another without being a jerk? Same question, sort of, I go to another beer bar. There is a woman I bar fined and wanted to again last night, but she wasn't there. Is there a problem picking another girl there? I really want the one I barfine before and don't want to make that problematic. When I researched coming here 12 years ago, there was a lot of talk of the women didn't like butterflys. I don't see that concern stated much now.

The reason I don't just go to another beer bar is because I like to be closer to my motel. I think I am on naklua road. I am past dolphin fountain where the road turns back to 2 way.

[StudBucket]

Hello,

Just got back from Pattaya for a 5 night stay. This was my 4th trip here, and it was mixed with a couple of weeks in the Philippines prior to getting here. My overall impressions in my short stay there was that Soi 6 has really improved and you are able to find more pretty girls than in the past where you really had to scour to find good girls there. Costs are around 1300 baht for short time service which includes the girl and room fee above the bar. The talent varies from bar to bar so you really just have to walk up and down the street in front of the bars and view the ladies and stop in a bar where one girl peaks your interest. I found the girls here were not super pushy for lady drinks and were more interested in getting you to go upstairs with them and all were eager. Unlike the gogos, if you sit with a girl, you will get the pesky waitresses asking you to buy another lady drink for the girls right away.

One thing that has really gotten out of control, as posted before, is the super high prices for the gogo girls on Walking Street. I was in bars such as Skyfall, Sensations, What's Up, and Sapphire all which had top notch quality girls but none of the girls would budge off of 3 k baht for short time and 5 k for long time. On top of this bar fines were 1500 baht or 1000 baht (after midnight prices drop by 500 baht for the bar fines in most bars). So, by the time I did the math and included lets say 2 lady drinks, I was looking at about 200 US dollars for long time and 130 US dollar for these girls. These prices are outrageous, and I just don't see the justification for these prices in Thailand where the cost of living is so inexpensive. I mean, this price is more than short time service in FKK clubs in Europe. The thing I did was to combat this, was to have to settle for Soi 6 and the girls in Insomnia or IBar which I was able to get for 1800-2500 baht short time. Unfortuantely, you will be hard pressed to see the hot quality go go type girls in these venues.

Other than the super high prices of top gogo bars, I still enjoy coming to Pattaya. One nice thing I did was to have a tailor shop custom make me shirts for about 850 baht each which were unbelievable quality. What a great deal. Also, you can find Tshirts, shorts, running shoes many of which are designer knockoffs along Beach road, at Mikes Mall, etc. Also, the seafood buffet at Flare restaurant in the Hilton is an amazing dining experience if you want something higher end.

I wanted to know if there are any other places (bars, freelancers, gogos) that mongers can recommend that I am not going to where one can find better looking girls (comparable to better gogo girls) where prices are under 2500-4 k all in for short and long time? Or is that just not going to happen? I did of course mention Soi 6 and Insomnia / IBar girls do fit this need for us. Thanks.

SB.

[Mr Enternational]

What is the etiquette of switching women at a beer bar? I go to a beer bar and there is a woman there who I have sat with on several occasions. She is nice enough, but there is not really any connection. Also I think she is a tease. Can I sit with another without being a jerk? Same question, sort of, I go to another beer bar. There is a woman I bar fined and wanted to again last night, but she wasn't there. Is there a problem picking another girl there? I really want the one I barfine before and don't want to make that problematic.Have you ever heard of the golden rule? He who has the gold makes the rules. Stop worrying about shit and run things how you want them. If you want a different chick then tell the one that comes first to tell her friend to come here. Some guys make things way more complicated than they are.

[Womaniszer]

Hello,

I wanted to know if there are any other places (bars, freelancers, gogos) that mongers can recommend that I am not going to where one can find better looking girls (comparable to better gogo girls) where prices are under 2500-4 k all in for short and long time? Or is that just not going to happen? I did of course mention Soi 6 and Insomnia / IBar girls do fit this need for us. Thanks.

SB.There 2 more options.

1st is the Beach Road girls, but most of them are bad, only if you are lucky you will a good one.

2nd is the Beer Gardens. One is opposite Mike Shopping Centre. But I like the one which is in the start of Sai Song (Second Road) go opposite Honey 2 Soapy Massage, walk for 5 minutes on the left. There is a big Beer Garden where you can pick up girls. Each bar have 5 or 6 girls. Damage is same as Soi 6, but only thing is you have to take her to your room.

Good luck.

[Kerrstar]

Stop worrying about shit and run things how you want them. Completely agree. The only girls who don't like men who are butterflies are the the non-hookers at the bar. In a lot of bars the servers are not P4 P, this is just their normal job. That's why they are there from 6 pm until 2 am. They don't disappear at 11 pm with a guy.

You want to bar fines different girls then just do it. Want to wait for one you've had before, that's fine, but she may have other customers lined up. Just use common sense.

[Dena0]

Have you ever heard of the golden rule? He who has the gold makes the rules. Stop worrying about shit and run things how you want them. If you want a different chick then tell the one that comes first to tell her friend to come here. Some guys make things way more complicated than they are.Can somebody make this post a sticky and a must read for every newb? Learnt this the easy way (RTFF) but every (ongoing Pattaya trip) experience has reinforced this.

[PedroEscobar]

Have you ever heard of the golden rule? He who has the gold makes the rules. Stop worrying about shit and run things how you want them. If you want a different chick then tell the one that comes first to tell her friend to come here. Some guys make things way more complicated than they are.100% agree, over the years of visiting Thailand I've seen many people stick with the first girl that sits next to them, and in the end this will ruin your trip. Be decisive and do what you like; yes you will get the odd girl that give you a look as you decide on some other lady but who cares as its your trip. As Mr Enternational says the golden rule is – he who has the gold makes the rules.

[Horatio]

So I went back to see one girl, but she was busy. She set me with her friend. I think they are close friends. Afterwards she asked me how she compared to first woman. I said somehothing about getting them both at same time. She said okay, but I am not sure if she understood what I was asking. Anyway would the price be the same of each of them that it was with just one? I paid 1000 short time. So for both 2000. Or do they want extra?

I really appreciate all the help and answers I have been getting.

[Blanquiceleste]

What is the etiquette of switching women at a beer bar? I go to a beer bar and there is a woman there who I have sat with on several occasions. She is nice enough, but there is not really any connection. Also I think she is a tease. Can I sit with another without being a jerk? Same question, sort of, I go to another beer bar. There is a woman I bar fined and wanted to again last night, but she wasn't there. Is there a problem picking another girl there? I really want the one I barfine before and don't want to make that problematic. When I researched coming here 12 years ago, there was a lot of talk of the women didn't like butterflys. I don't see that concern stated much now.

The reason I don't just go to another beer bar is because I like to be closer to my motel. I think I am on naklua road. I am past dolphin fountain where the road turns back to 2 way.If she goes out with other guys then why is the other way round so difficult? And for God's sake she is hooker man. Get a grip! Bang a pussy, don't be one.

[Blanquiceleste]

So I went back to see one girl, but she was busy. She set me with her friend. I think they are close friends. Afterwards she asked me how she compared to first woman. I said somehothing about getting them both at same time. She said okay, but I am not sure if she understood what I was asking. Anyway would the price be the same of each of them that it was with just one? I paid 1000 short time. So for both 2000. Or do they want extra?

I really appreciate all the help and answers I have been getting.Extra? When you go to a cheap store and buy a t-shit for $10, usually buying two will cost you less than $20. Principles of economics do not change just because you are shopping for a different commodity.

[Blanquiceleste]

One thing that has really gotten out of control, as posted before, is the super high prices for the gogo girls on Walking Street. I was in bars such as Skyfall, Sensations, What's Up, and Sapphire all which had top notch quality girls but none of the girls would budge off of 3 k baht for short time and 5 k for long time. On top of this bar fines were 1500 baht or 1000 baht (after midnight prices drop by 500 baht for the bar fines in most bars). So, by the time I did the math and included lets say 2 lady drinks, I was looking at about 200 US dollars for long time and 130 US dollar for these girls. These prices are outrageous, and I just don't see the justification for these prices in Thailand where the cost of living is so inexpensive. I mean, this price is more than short time service in FKK clubs in Europe. The thing I did was to combat this, was to have to settle for Soi 6 and the girls in Insomnia or IBar which I was able to get for 1800-2500 baht short time. Unfortuantely, you will be hard pressed to see the hot quality go go type girls in these venues.I see your problem. You want a Ferrari at the price of a Toyota Altis. Sigh!

[ThatGuy68]

There 2 more options.

1st is the Beach Road girls, but most of them are bad, only if you are lucky you will a good one.

2nd is the Beer Gardens. One is opposite Mike Shopping Centre. But I like the one which is in the start of Sai Song (Second Road) go opposite Honey 2 Soapy Massage, walk for 5 minutes on the left. There is a big Beer Garden where you can pick up girls. Each bar have 5 or 6 girls. Damage is same as Soi 6, but only thing is you have to take her to your room.

Good luck.I've been told to check out beer garden on Pattayasaisong 13 which I believe is referred to as Soi Diana. Even with all my research I'm still not 100% on google street names vs local nicknames. Two mentioned were Fernidad beer and Lucky 1. I've seen them on vlogs since. Had some younger hotties. I plan on checking them out in a couple weeks when I arrive.

Where is your favorite one at Womaniszer? By your instructions I'd say it's actually located halfway down Pattayasaisong 3 alley? Next to central center. Thinking I'm going to extend my stay a day or two and stay at siam siam. Get a good dose of soapies and Soi 6. Like to have another place to visit on that side of town.

Thanks.

[Mr Enternational]

Extra? When you go to a cheap store and buy a t-shit for $10, usually buying two will cost you less than $20. Principles of economics do not change just because you are shopping for a different commodity.LOL. I was just about to write that I would offer them less. If 1 girl then she would get 100% of my power. If 2 girls I can only give each girl 50% of my power. So with 2 girls they each make money easier than if they were alone. But instead of paying them 50% of 1 girl cost I would give them each 80% of 1 girl cost.

At a brothel that I go to in the Dominican Republic it works that way. 1 girl $25 ,2 girls $42 for the hour.

[MrManGuy]

I see your problem. You want a Ferrari at the price of a Toyota Altis. Sigh!Not even a question of price. Sitting in a gogo now bored out of my mind. This shit is fucked. I gladly pay 5 k for a girl but no better they dance on stage and make no money.

[StudBucket]

I see your problem. You want a Ferrari at the price of a Toyota Altis. Sigh!No Blanquiceleste, I don't see this analogy as correct. I am asking to find good girls for 4 k long or 2500-3 k short time. This is not quite asking for a Ferrari at the price of a Toyota Altis. If I were asking to pay 2 k or 3 k for long time that's asking for a lot, but I stated in my post the price I believe we should be paying is max 4 k for top tier gogo girls which is still well over $120.00 I can get very good go go girls in Angeles City for $60 dollars which is half the price of Thailand, and although Philippines is a 3rd world country, where Thailand is 2nd world, things are not that cheap in the Philippines. Pattaya had its original lure for getting good prices on the women, and places like Soi 6, beer gardens, etc. have the some of the same quality girls in the gogos for a lot less. Its guys like you that continue to support these high prices (paying $200 for long time) and approving of it, that have ruined the market for us. Thanks!

[StudBucket]

There 2 more options.

1st is the Beach Road girls, but most of them are bad, only if you are lucky you will a good one.

2nd is the Beer Gardens. One is opposite Mike Shopping Centre. But I like the one which is in the start of Sai Song (Second Road) go opposite Honey 2 Soapy Massage, walk for 5 minutes on the left. There is a big Beer Garden where you can pick up girls. Each bar have 5 or 6 girls. Damage is same as Soi 6, but only thing is you have to take her to your room.

Good luck.Thank you sir for the good information. We will definitely check this Beer Garden out. The Beer Garden on Walking Street had very sparce quality girls, I hope its not the same here and more like Soi 6 in terms of girl choice.

[Banana Boi]

Womaniszer is referring to Simon Place on 2nd road beside Terminal 21 and across from Tiffany's. I walked through the other night and he is correct there were definitely some decent girls there. StudBucket, if you didn't like Simon Complex on Walking Street you're likely not going to like Simon Place either. Girls are fairly similar.


Not even a question of price. Sitting in a gogo now bored out of my mind. This shit is fucked. I gladly pay 5 k for a girl but no better they dance on stage and make no money.

Which gogo bar? A bored looking gogo girl on stage means nothing. I know many who looked bored shitless on stage and so much fun when you start drinking with them or take them out. If you see someone hot, smile and wave her over, determine her personality, and decide if you want to buy her a ladydrink.

[MrManGuy]

Womaniszer is referring to Simon Place on 2nd road beside Terminal 21 and across from Tiffany's. I walked through the other night and he is correct there were definitely some decent girls there. StudBucket, if you didn't like Simon Complex on Walking Street you're likely not going to like Simon Place either. Girls are fairly similar.



Which gogo bar? A bored looking gogo girl on stage means nothing. I know many who looked bored shitless on stage and so much fun when you start drinking with them or take them out. If you see someone hot, smile and wave her over, determine her personality, and decide if you want to buy her a ladydrink.It's retarded. It's like they make it as hard as possible for the man to barfine and the lady to be with customer. The ladies spend too much time dancing not enough with customer. Too many fat dickheads crowding bar. Ladies too far away can't them can't even see their number. Sometimes the girl is already booked but has to dance on stage for 20 minutes. GoGo becoming a real chore. Too many have flat out ugly girls.

Thai attitude is really starting to get on my nerves. The staff are not friendly but the ladies once you eventually manage to barfine them are great.

Bars I like so far are dollhouse. But I stress in any bar once you get a lady; it's fine. The problem is pushy staff and overpriced drinks. To discuss anything with a lady they make it so you have to buy 1 drink and one lady drink sometimes 320 BAHT. The ladies price is not the problem it's the bars I don't like. The drinks are way too expensive for having so many ugly girls and such rude aggressive staff.

Sapphire club also has good staff.

Maybe I need to go to the clubs earlier.

[MrManGuy]

No Blanquiceleste, I don't see this analogy as correct. I am asking to find good girls for 4 k long or 2500-3 k short time. This is not quite asking for a Ferrari at the price of a Toyota Altis. If I were asking to pay 2 k or 3 k for long time that's asking for a lot, but I stated in my post the price I believe we should be paying is max 4 k for top tier gogo girls which is still well over $120.00 I can get very good go go girls in Angeles City for $60 dollars which is half the price of Thailand, and although Philippines is a 3rd world country, where Thailand is 2nd world, things are not that cheap in the Philippines. Pattaya had its original lure for getting good prices on the women, and places like Soi 6, beer gardens, etc. have the some of the same quality girls in the gogos for a lot less. Its guys like you that continue to support these high prices (paying $200 for long time) and approving of it, that have ruined the market for us. Thanks!5 or 6 k LT is the price for top girls. Only found two top girl this trip she wanted 5 k but barfine was 2 k, other was 6 k but she seemed like trouble. A little disappointed. I think I have gone out too late in the evening.

[Blanquiceleste]

No Blanquiceleste, I don't see this analogy as correct. I am asking to find good girls for 4 k long or 2500-3 k short time. This is not quite asking for a Ferrari at the price of a Toyota Altis. If I were asking to pay 2 k or 3 k for long time that's asking for a lot, but I stated in my post the price I believe we should be paying is max 4 k for top tier gogo girls which is still well over $120.00 I can get very good go go girls in Angeles City for $60 dollars which is half the price of Thailand, and although Philippines is a 3rd world country, where Thailand is 2nd world, things are not that cheap in the Philippines. Pattaya had its original lure for getting good prices on the women, and places like Soi 6, beer gardens, etc. have the some of the same quality girls in the gogos for a lot less. Its guys like you that continue to support these high prices (paying $200 for long time) and approving of it, that have ruined the market for us. Thanks!You cannot see the analogy, that is your problem, not mine.

The gogo prices the barfine as they deem fit. Same for the the girls. You think it is too high? Too bad. All the talk about 1st world, 2nd world, 3rd world, macroeconomic theory, cost comparisons between countries, whining and complaining are all good ways to rationalise, but it ain't getting you any closer to a top end gogo girl.

I pay what I feel like, what I can afford. It is my money and my holiday. And I don't give a rat's ass about what anyone thinks about it. The world is full of haves and have nots. Deal with it.

[UltraHappy]

You cannot see the analogy, that is your problem, not mine.

The gogo prices the barfine as they deem fit. Same for the the girls. You think it is too high? Too bad. All the talk about 1st world, 2nd world, 3rd world, macroeconomic theory, cost comparisons between countries, whining and complaining are all good ways to rationalise, but it ain't getting you any closer to a top end gogo girl.

I pay what I feel like, what I can afford. It is my money and my holiday. And I don't give a rat's ass about what anyone thinks about it. The world is full of haves and have nots. Deal with it.It is perfectly legitimate to compare prices in different venues of the world and the legitimacy of those prices in the view of the payor. Yes, I agree with you that the price of something in a particular local is the price, and you either pay it or you don't. No doubt about that.

But for folks like StudBucket who have a choice about where they shop, it's perfectly legitimate for him to ask himself, "Why should I fly 2 days to get somewhere where I end up paying the same or more than other venues when I could have just went elsewhere more convenient and gotten the same thing (or something better) for cheaper or the same price?

In other words, let's say I were a coffee collector and I liked to travel the world collecting coffee. Let's say that I visit Thailand because I want to check out the coffee scene there. When I get there, I discover that, "Shit, the coffee prices for the good coffee I like to drink is about the same price or more than in other places. " In that case, I would naturally wonder why the fuck it would ever make sense for me to fly all the way to Thailand (2 days travel) when I could have just flown to Europe (1 day travel) and got the coffee for the same price. Yes, of course, this analysis depends on the subjective coffee preferences of each traveler, etc, etc.

I personally benefitted from StudBucket's post because it gives us, the readers, more data about prices in Thailand in various venues (and the variability of those prices). In all my reading of Thailand posts, the majority of ISG posters seem to focus on a price range of girls that clearly differs from the range of girls that StudBucket was targetting. In this way, StudBucket's post is a refreshing addition to these other data points. My personal fear is that I will find myself in StudBucket's same dilemma when I make my first trip out there later this Fall. But I will never know until I try, so I must go there and try.

If I end up sharing my subjective impressions about the prices in Thailand after my trip there this Fall, please don't beat up me up Mr. Blanquiceleste.

If I do share my subjective impressions about my future trip, which, I am fairly certain, will include comparisons to other locals, then please don't take that future post as a personal attack on you merely because my subjective impressions differ from your personal preferences or opinions. Likewise, this is an open forum where StudBucket is permitted, indeed, encouraged to share his personal experiences and opinions.

Yes, if your world is limited to Thailand, it seems as if StudBucket is wanting to get a Ferrari at Toyota Altris prices. But for someone like StudBucket who has a choice about where he visits in the world, it seemed to me that he may have indeed been complaining about having to pay Ferrari prices in Thailand for a Toyota Altris.

[Christian G]

I personally benefitted from StudBucket's post because it gives us, the readers, more data about prices in Thailand in various venues (and the variability of those prices). In all my reading of Thailand posts, the majority of ISG posters seem to focus on a price range of girls that clearly differs from the range of girls that StudBucket was targetting. In this way, StudBucket's post is a refreshing addition to these other data points. My personal fear is that I will find myself in StudBucket's same dilemma when I make my first trip out there later this Fall. But I will never know until I try, so I must go there and try.
In Pattaya you can find girls for all prices ST and LT. From cheap beach road girls till the most expensive gogo girls. In the middle many bars girls, freelancers, chat app, disco, ST bars, BJ bars, Bodymassage, Massage shop. So my advice for your first trip is to try a bit of everythings and decide what is the best for you. If you are daytime or nighttime monger, if you like to party hard and drink till dawn, if you like ST or LT, in any case you will find your action. I avoid to comment on the price, if is good or not to pay these gogo price, the difference between Europe market (FKK, etc.) vs Thailand. After 11 years of holidays in Thailand I know what I like and what I want.

[Banana Boi]

If you're the ISG member I followed into a Soi Full Love Inn gentleman's club today, PM me. Let's get together for drinks.

[DavidSchmauch]

First of all, you will not compare Angeles City with Pattaya if your mind is clear and sober; I like AC and had two or three nice shots out there, but Pattaya is a different animal, the biggest place of this kind that I've ever seen, and I have seen a lot. Pattaya has it all working for itself, a pretty good size beach, huge city with very good infrastructure, world class hotels, over 600 bars with very beautiful babies and then some. I went to walking street which is a gogo heaven and was disappointed with prices; at 5 k LT I don't think it's worth it. I've seen same very good looking girls there, but so did I see some Ferraris or something like it on Soi 6 and they all go for 3000 LT and 2500ST. This girl that goes by the name of Surichai at the Redbone bar on Soi 6 is amazing; something that would cost $500 in NYC. Then there is another girl in the next bar over, forgot her name or the name of the bar, same price, looks like that singer Selena, huge latina like butt, beautiful face. Some Thais lok Latin a little bit. Then yeah, most of these other girls at those bars and good for quick thing, I would compare them to Toyotas and Kias, but once in a while you will find a pearl there. This girl Surichai does ST only, she will not go out LT because she makes more money through quick, one hour pops, all those good looking stunners will not go out for the night. Price comparisons Pattaya vs other places; Medellin, $12 for half HR vs Pattaya $100 all night (3000 bht) and we have a clear winner. Rio or Sao Paolo or Costa Rica $150 per HR, with all due respect. Other places that are cheaper like Phillipines or Indonesia, quality is not there, wasted trip, not to mention terrorism threats etc, Thailand is still place to go. People are so nice and soulful here, I love Thailand, not so much Pattaya as I do like Phuket, but hey.

[PVMonger]

It is perfectly legitimate to compare prices in different venues of the world and the legitimacy of those prices in the view of the payor. Yes, I agree with you that the price of something in a particular local is the price, and you either pay it or you don't. No doubt about that.

But for folks like StudBucket who have a choice about where they shop, it's perfectly legitimate for him to ask himself, "Why should I fly 2 days to get somewhere where I end up paying the same or more than other venues when I could have just went elsewhere more convenient and gotten the same thing (or something better) for cheaper or the same price?.As a monger who lives in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico, I'd like to add that StudBucket's comments apply to Mexico and to Puerto Vallarta as well.

A monger can get ST here for $50-$60 USD per pop (from a fat fugly SW) to $300 USD / hour (from a really good looking chica). Other locales in Mexico are the same, more or less. IMHO, the larger the city, the more competition. And competition keeps prices a little more reasonable.

But the issue to me is the same. If I can get a decent experience for $100 USD in PV, why would I take a trip to Guadalajara and incur the costs of the trip and end up with an experience no different from what I could get where I live.

(That having been said, I lurk on this board 'cause I have a friend who live on Phuket and I hope to visit him someday and partake of some of the local talent. But the primary motivation for the trip would be to visit my buddy).

[Blanquiceleste]

It is perfectly legitimate to compare prices in different venues of the world and the legitimacy of those prices in the view of the payor. I ain't takin' away that right, I am just sayin' its useless. Your world in the present is what is in front of your eyes. One has to respond to that present moment in a way that maximizes what you are after. Carpe Diem. Anything else is a waste of time.


But for folks like StudBucket who have a choice about where they shop, it's perfectly legitimate for him to ask himself, "Why should I fly 2 days to get somewhere where I end up paying the same or more than other venues when I could have just went elsewhere more convenient and gotten the same thing (or something better) for cheaper or the same price?There is a reason why people from world over come to Thailand. And that reason is what you get in Thailand isn't available anywhere else. Now if its a hole you are after at the end of the day, then your argument is valid. To extend that coffee analogy, paying $10 for a latte at Starbucks in Thailand is undoubtedly stupid when you can get the same back home. No contest.


I personally benefitted from StudBucket's post because it gives us, the readers, more data about prices in Thailand in various venues (and the variability of those prices). In all my reading of Thailand posts, the majority of ISG posters seem to focus on a price range of girls that clearly differs from the range of girls that StudBucket was targetting. In this way, StudBucket's post is a refreshing addition to these other data points. My personal fear is that I will find myself in StudBucket's same dilemma when I make my first trip out there later this Fall. But I will never know until I try, so I must go there and try.

If I end up sharing my subjective impressions about the prices in Thailand after my trip there this Fall, please don't beat up me up Mr. Blanquiceleste.

If I do share my subjective impressions about my future trip, which, I am fairly certain, will include comparisons to other locals, then please don't take that future post as a personal attack on you merely because my subjective impressions differ from your personal preferences or opinions. Likewise, this is an open forum where StudBucket is permitted, indeed, encouraged to share his personal experiences and opinions.Peace Love Empathy mate! If you care to notice I did not start the attacks. Write about your adventures all you must and we will read with rapt attention.


Its guys like you that continue to support these high prices (paying $200 for long time) and approving of it, that have ruined the market for us. Thanks!

[Kerrstar]

Other places that are cheaper like Phillipines or Indonesia, quality is not there, wasted trip, not to mention terrorism threats etc, Thailand is still place to go.I wouldn't rule out Indonesia, there are some real stunners in Jakarta. I believe that the phillipines has some cuties as well, but I haven't spent enough time there to really know. Two extremely quick trips is all that I have managed.

That said, I do really like Thailand. Great food, stunning women, first class accommodation if you desire and it's pretty easy to get around Bangkok these days.

[Member #4698]

There is a reason why people from world over come to Thailand. And that reason is what you get in Thailand isn't available anywhere else. Now if its a hole you are after at the end of the day, then your argument is valid. To extend that coffee analogy, paying $10 for a latte at Starbucks in Thailand is undoubtedly stupid when you can get the same back home. No contest.

I couldn't agree more with the above. Everybody has different tastes in girls. I see this all the time in my favorite Go Go's in BKK where different guys are very happy with girls I would not choose to do for free and vice a versa I am with girls that some other punters would consider no good because they have no butt, or meat on the bone. LOL.

So, my preference is for young, demure, pretty, Asian girls of mostly petite size although I occasionally go for taller girls when I am in a place like Macau. I have done some Asian girls in Europe and in America. All I can say is, it's not the same thing. It is not as good as doing them in Asia. Now if I preferred Latinas, I know I could save myself a hell of a lot of air travel time, not to mention expense, by going SA like I used to do in the 90's. I may go back to SA someday and revisit some of the hot spots, but not in 2018,2019, or anytime soon. LOL.

And ditto for guys that like Caucasian girls. If you like European girls then you are in luck. Go to or stay in Germany. Or I hear Greece is dirt cheap, but I wonder about the quality there. HA HA. Anyway, forget about LOS. You are not going to like it half as much as I do. And I have similar advice for guys that think all girls are fungible I. E. The same everywhere. There is no point to flying to BKK and paying Go Go or Soapy prices if one hole is as good as another to you. There are still some cheap destinations out here, but keep in mind, that prices are going up everywhere especially for good looking girls so better hurry and find your place.

Africa might be worth checking out for some punters. AC & Subic are still very affordable for many. And there are some out of the way destinations, like Mong La, Burma that might really pay off for guys that like to explore a little and get off the beaten track. I say, go for it, whatever your "it" is.


I wouldn't rule out Indonesia, there are some real stunners in Jakarta. I believe that the Philippines has some cuties as well, but I haven't spent enough time there to really know. Two extremely quick trips is all that I have managed.

That said, I do really like Thailand. Great food, stunning women, first class accommodation if you desire and it's pretty easy to get around Bangkok these days. I really like Jakarta & Manila girls too. If it were only about the girls and all else were equal, I would spend more time in Jakarta and Manila than BKK, maybe. But it is not just about the girls. There is the overall ambiance of the destination, the level of safety, the infrastructure, living expenses, culture, food, transport, things to do other than mongering, ect ect. Taken on its whole, including girls and all the various venues (nightlife), I believe BKK/Pattaya is still the best place in Asia to recreate despite all the negatives and expense.

Personally, I would love to spend more time in Jakarta and Manila, because of the wonderful local girls, not the price benefits. Both Jakarta and Manila can be very expensive for quality girls. Unfortunately, I find 3 weeks at a time is all I can take of Jakarta or MNL before I get the strong urge to get out of Dodge. On the other hand, 6 weeks in BKK and I am still good for another 6 weeks. Why? Because as I said upfront, it is not only about the girls. There are great girls everywhere. HA HA. Well almost everywhere: BKK, Pat, MNL, CGK, Phnom Penh, AC, Sin, Macau, Shanghai, Vientiane, and Yangon. But I find BKK is one of the only large cities in Asia where I can be happy Long Time and remain relatively sane as long as I am able to make frequent short time excursions to other nearby locales and take a break. And there is no comparison between Pattaya and AC, its closest competitor. I would never choose to live in AC, although a week or 10 days there can be a lot of fun.

[MrManGuy]

5 k LT is excellent price. Thailand more expensive than USA for a good quality of life. The problem is the GoGo bars themselves have rude out of control staff who are incredibly pushy and rude. Never seen anything this bad anywhere in the world. Just had a 2 k bill inc barfine shoved on my face. Like literally shoved. Thai people are horrible. I don't mind the price it's the poor service and thai violence I can't stand. Most racist country ever. Luckily Thai women are wonderful hookers.

[MrManGuy]

Soi6 has many good lookers for 1 k baht.

[StudBucket]

5 k LT is excellent price. Thailand more expensive than USA for a good quality of life.

The problem is the GoGo bars themselves have rude out of control staff who are incredibly pushy and rude. Never seen anything this bad anywhere in the world. Just had a 2 k bill inc barfine shoved on my face. Like literally shoved. Thai people are horrible. I don't mind the price it's the poor service and thai violence I can't stand. Most racist country ever. Luckily Thai women are wonderful hookers.
I do not agree with your comment that Thailand is more expensive than USA for a good quality of life. Here are some statistics pulled from Numbeo.com:


Indices Difference Info
Consumer Prices in United States are 58.16% higher than in Thailand
Consumer Prices Including Rent in United States are 78.31% higher than in Thailand
Rent Prices in United States are 141.16% higher than in Thailand
Restaurant Prices in United States are 206.96% higher than in Thailand
Groceries Prices in United States are 43.87% higher than in Thailand
Local Purchasing Power in United States is 305.72% higher than in Thailand

With respect to your comment about some Thais character, I could not agree with you anymore. Many Thai people as noted by others on this board and my opinion are racist, rude, and some men can be violent. They really don't welcome Farangs into their culture and embrace them even over time. If you get in a fight with a Thai man, be prepared to have many other Thai men jump in and help their fellow comrade beat the Farang, no matter if we are right or wrong. Also, lets not forget Lewis and Rosemary Owen from Wales, both grandparents in their 60's on vacation with their son who got beat up mercilessly by several Thais in Songkran because their son accidentally bumped into a Thai man causing him to spill a drink of beverage.

If it were not for the nice girls, I would not come here, so true.

[Crocodilexp]

There is a reason why people from world over come to Thailand. And that reason is what you get in Thailand isn't available anywhere else. Now if its a hole you are after at the end of the day, then your argument is valid. Thailand's GFE advantage is fairly close to slipping away. Just about 5-10 years ago, every second hooker was sweet (and cheap! These days, it's every 10th, and given the prices, those odds are no longer fun unless you're truly desperate for that Thai GFE hooker experience which was more or less the norm before.

[StudBucket]

I ain't takin' away that right, I am just sayin' its useless. Your world in the present is what is in front of your eyes. One has to respond to that present moment in a way that maximizes what you are after. Carpe Diem. Anything else is a waste of time.

There is a reason why people from world over come to Thailand. And that reason is what you get in Thailand isn't available anywhere else. Now if its a hole you are after at the end of the day, then your argument is valid. To extend that coffee analogy, paying $10 for a latte at Starbucks in Thailand is undoubtedly stupid when you can get the same back home. No contest.

Peace Love Empathy mate! If you care to notice I did not start the attacks. Write about your adventures all you must and we will read with rapt attention.Boy Blanquiceleste, you sit here and state you did not start the attacks. If you look at my original post, I merely stated that in my opinion paying 6 k for top quality girls in Thailand is too much and you replied with a very smug remark "You want a Ferrari for a price of a Toyota. " That is why I responded with my comment about "guys like you ruining the market". So, if this is not insulting to you, then you really need to wake up. Then, other posters come along, and tell you it is okay to compare prices. In fact Ultra Happy's post and analogy about the coffee bean buyer was flat out brilliant and he is clearly a man of wisdom. And you respond to him that it is useless banter to discuss prices (which many mongers apparently agree its good information to review prices) , and then you state there is no point coming to LOS if "one hole is as good as another. " (You really are being condescending here, again. )

You should toss out more of your funny remarks, as that is all they are good for.

I never stated I hate Pattaya, nor suggest that mongers should question coming here. In fact, I continue to rank it up there with Angeles City as my favorite places to monger and recommend it to all. I simply agree we all have choices and other top girls can be found in Pattaya or other countries without paying the high prices of these gogo bars. Now, lets just move on.

[Blanquiceleste]

In fact Ultra Happy's post and analogy about the coffee bean buyer was flat out brilliant and he is clearly a man of wisdom. And you respond to him that it is useless banter to discuss prices (which many mongers apparently agree its good information to review prices) , and then you state there is no point coming to LOS if "one hole is as good as another. " (You really are being condescending here, again. )

Now, lets just move on.If you think that analogy was brilliant, then perhaps he should run for Chief of the Federal Reserve and you could apply for the position of his secretary.

On second thought, ya. Let us just move on. Because this banter is really a waste of time. Too many Ferraris to bang out there.

[DrifterMan]

I'm thinking of spending New Years Eve in Pattaya. What is the general scene like? I suppose everywhere will be in party mode and full of people.

[MrManGuy]

I do not agree with your comment that Thailand is more expensive than USA for a good quality of life. Here are some statistics pulled from Numbeo.com:


Indices Difference Info
Consumer Prices in United States are 58.16% higher than in Thailand
Consumer Prices Including Rent in United States are 78.31% higher than in Thailand
Rent Prices in United States are 141.16% higher than in Thailand
Restaurant Prices in United States are 206.96% higher than in Thailand
Groceries Prices in United States are 43.87% higher than in Thailand
Local Purchasing Power in United States is 305.72% higher than in Thailand

With respect to your comment about some Thais character, I could not agree with you anymore. Many Thai people as noted by others on this board and my opinion are racist, rude, and some men can be violent. They really don't welcome Farangs into their culture and embrace them even over time. If you get in a fight with a Thai man, be prepared to have many other Thai men jump in and help their fellow comrade beat the Farang, no matter if we are right or wrong. Also, lets not forget Lewis and Rosemary Owen from Wales, both grandparents in their 60's on vacation with their son who got beat up mercilessly by several Thais in Songkran because their son accidentally bumped into a Thai man causing him to spill a drink of beverage.

If it were not for the nice girls, I would not come here, so true.Statistics are almost useless. Just sum totals. Would include family in isaan with buffalo and metropolitan girl in Bangkok. You want to live USA quality off life then Thailand is more expensive.

[MrManGuy]

You Americans just need to accept the average America no longer has a lot of money. Your 200 USD is nothing to Thai people now. There are many many families in Pattaya now. Gogo bars are barely brothels with most girls masking a salary and drinks beónus and need only 1 or 2 customer short time per week.

In pattaya you either settle for average girls (who are still decent but the main reason to hire them is their personality) or you play the GoGo game of buy 10 drinks fight for scraps of japanese men. Maybe next time don't vote for idiot republicans with economic policies that only make sense for a minority. If you are in they minority then you have no problem paying 6 k LT. She is a lovely girl and an extra 2 k baht is just $60. Stop being tight wad.

[MrManGuy]

Thailand's GFE advantage is fairly close to slipping away. Just about 5-10 years ago, every second hooker was sweet (and cheap! These days, it's every 10th, and given the prices, those odds are no longer fun unless you're truly desperate for that Thai GFE hooker experience which was more or less the norm before.They are all sweet to me. So sweet. Maybe YOU changed.

[HorneeFalang]

Your 200 USD is nothing to Thai people now.$200 US nothing to Thai people?? 6,640 THB. Dear MrManGuy, Money is everything to Thai people. Learn it.

[Crocodilexp]

Your 200 USD is nothing to Thai people now.Your claims of Thai people being suddenly rich, living costs in Thailand being higher than US and such, is well beyond ridiculous.

There has been growth in Thailand, but income inequality is still vast, and most Thais earn not much more than the minimum wage, which is $10/ day, meaning $300/ mo. $200 goes a very, very long way here with ordinary people, albeit perhaps not with a small group of overpriced hookers. Compared to the minimum wage, offering $200 in Thailand is the exact equivalent of offering $1000 in the US. Not a life-changing amount, but not something many people would sneer at.

[Banana Boi]

I know girls right now struggling to make even 200 baht per day during low season. Only a very small percentage of girls are able to pull in the 5000 LT Japanese customers on a nightly basis.

[Kerrstar]

I know girls right now struggling to make even 200 baht per day during low season. Only a very small percentage of girls are able to pull in the 5000 LT Japanese customers on a nightly basis.I think what people forget is that whilst some girls might have some good patches where they have customers paying a lot, during the low season or when there is a coup / other political problem and there are no punters around the girls make almost no money. They don't have steady income.

If you go back 20 years, for us old enough to have been going to Thailand back then, I think a lot of the girls who were out on weekends were regular girls who were supplementing their income. Back then a 25 year old With a degree working in a bank would have made an ok salary but not enough to splurge on new shows, handbags, etc. These days, a girl in the same position probably has a much higher real salary compared to back then. The Thai economy has grown a lot and the demand for quality staff, especially those who speak a second language, has seen salaried increase a lot for some sectors. The middle class in Thailand, especially Bangkok is much better off than 20 years ago, but the lower classes not so much.

[Womaniszer]

Statistics are almost useless. Just sum totals. Would include family in isaan with buffalo and metropolitan girl in Bangkok. You want to live USA quality off life then Thailand is more expensive.I 100% agree with you. Things have changed in these 10 years. Thailand is been expensive in Food but still accomodation is cheap. The attitude of girls has changed a lot. All have become money minded. Well A change is always seen in whole world with the time.

I been visiting Thailand from a long time. I speak Thai even but things are still hard for me sometimes.

So I just skipped my holidays from 4 Times in Thailand to 1 time in a year.

I have started new destination which is Jakarta.

Girls still don't know how to drag money from customers. The cost of food, accommodation & girls is cheap.

People respect here a lot.

[ParkVille]

Thailand's GFE advantage is fairly close to slipping away. Just about 5-10 years ago, every second hooker was sweet (and cheap! These days, it's every 10th, and given the prices, those odds are no longer fun unless you're truly desperate for that Thai GFE hooker experience which was more or less the norm before.Well put, it's like every 10 nth or 20 nth depending on how picky you are. I felt like a junky on my last visit to Pattaya, just walking the hot and polluted streets, looking for my fix but unable to find a hooker that suites my fancy in the daytime (too many old and fat woman, let's be honest here). Yeah sometimes it's great, you don't have to look far. But sometimes, it's dry there and that doesn't help if one is thirsty.

[MrManGuy]

I know girls right now struggling to make even 200 baht per day during low season. Only a very small percentage of girls are able to pull in the 5000 LT Japanese customers on a nightly basis.Very true but they forget not all falang are poor. If they treated falang costumers better they would get more barfines. All I see night after night is a bunch of Japanese men hogging all the girls.

[MrManGuy]

Your claims of Thai people being suddenly rich, living costs in Thailand being higher than US and such, is well beyond ridiculous.

There has been growth in Thailand, but income inequality is still vast, and most Thais earn not much more than the minimum wage, which is $10/ day, meaning $300/ mo. $200 goes a very, very long way here with ordinary people, albeit perhaps not with a small group of overpriced hookers. Compared to the minimum wage, offering $200 in Thailand is the exact equivalent of offering $1000 in the US. Not a life-changing amount, but not something many people would sneer at.Just pay the pretty lady 5 k and fuck her hard till she cries if you want. Or do her passionately and slowly. Your choice, your 5 k, but the lady sets the price. She is the one giving up her body and her dignity. Don't push them to a price where she goes back to the rice farm.

There are 2 Thailand. In the right thailand, 5k is not much.

[Sunlover2]

Your claims of Thai people being suddenly rich, living costs in Thailand being higher than US and such, is well beyond ridiculous.Most message boards have a very useful ignore function, so why bother to feed the trolls? Their mum's always end up calling them to supper soon enough.

SL.

[Banana Boi]

Fire at Iron Club on Walking Street this afternoon. Doesn't appear to be a ton of damage.

[Mr Pards]

Had three days in Patts mid June, misplaced the report but it turned up so posting now. This maybe my 6th or 7th trip but first report (in the main as my nights involve usually good amounts of drink so recollection very hazy next day for FR purposes.). Stayed at Baraquda McGalley, 2nd Rd. Widely tipped up in Hotel Section. Would concur with that. Good place to stay in all quarters. Previously always stayed across the street at what was Marriott Resort and Spa. This place not quite up to that but close enough and would stay again.

I don't have whole lot to say that might be of interest but here goes. This is the first time ever ventured to Red Car and very impressed. Hit it twice both times with company. But excellent sprinkling of fine talent. Place has good vibe, good music for the ages, service, prices. Etc all reasonable enough. Place was also rocking just north of midnight. One night after Red Car went to IBar. Again this was a first for me. This was sort of 2-4 am window. Took a table right in the bowels of the place and was rammed with ladies. Good all round quality. Bar girls, students, MILF and girl next door types. Seemed to be very few guys about. Perhaps I hit the place on some sort of local holiday week or something, have no idea or perhaps this is absolutely the norm but was almost overwhelmed by how many ladies all groups of 2-4 at tables seemingly waiting for something (I wonder what). So both these places are now firmly on any agenda I will have for future Patt's trips. Previously they were not. Also, will add I am just north of the big five oh (albeit trim and smart but casual attire.), European and did not feel uncomfortable or square peg in round hole at all.

Hit only go-go's at LK Metro where I felt quality and numbers were marginally down on anything can ever recall. Only ones I could give shout out to would be Destiny, Show Girls and the one on the road heading down to LKM. Right side just before bar complex called Paya or Apaya maybe? Also noticed I think for the first time in several go-go's ladies pretty much partying with their own little group, barely taking notice of customers. Drinking quite heavily and seemingly having a great time with themselves. Also noted in several bars (Show Girls, Mandarin upstairs in Bangkok and another LK Metro place that can't recall) really, really wired up girl (s). I don't mean just a fun chick who is a bit of a bar jester but girls really bouncing off the walls almost. These girls were ultra skinny in all cases. So observing this and the little gaggles of girls partying on their own was not something I recall before so much. Something and nothing maybe!

My penchant is early thirty something girls. Have to be slim and reasonably cute but don't need to be red hot. Most important is a bit of spark! Interesting, funny and spirited. This trip found three such ladies in three days. So there is still plenty of fruit still in Patts. These type of ladies tend to wind up as hawkers outside bars in and around LK Metro, 2nd Road. My MO is always to buy a few quick drinks so there quota keeps healthy then head off with them some place to dance (like Red Car) or hit another bar with karaoke. Lots of these ladies like to sing so often paid up a few hundred Bhat for them to take a turn with the mic. All the time the lady is drinking (a real drink) a little also and feeling somewhat like she is on a date. For sure this adds maybe 1,000 2,000 Bhat to the evening expenses but IME this is pure investment and goes straight to the bottom line when it comes to a super willing, passionate and enthusiastic bed partner when the time comes.

Other trivia. First time thought about swimming in the sea. Huge mistake like soup. Makes the sea at Juhu Beach (Mumbai) look like The Carribean. Avoid certainly around beach road strip of sea. Gross.

In the past used Mr Vichram for taxi's from BKK to Patts. Seems no longer in the business! So used Pattaya Central and ended up with two pretty wild drivers. Not use again and gladly pay few hundred Bhat premium for a sensible driver next time.

I would like to finish with a question if I may. Planning next trip late September to Patt's. I am thinking about staying at Renaissance Pattaya Resort & Spa. This is a new hotel in Jomtein (address given as Moo3, Na Jomtein, Sattahip). I have never ventured outside of South Pattaya. Staying at this place, which is listed as 7 miles from Pattaya, likely to a big turn off for company coming with me for the night? And or will I be battling constantly with taxi's or being seriously ripped off to go that far? I don't mind some extra expense and disruption to stay out there but if it's a constant headache for above reasons will abandon the idea of evening trying a stay there! Any informed opinion much appreciated.

[BionicMan]

Fire at Iron Club on Walking Street this afternoon. Doesn't appear to be a ton of damage.Did the "low" signs blocked the fire engines?

[BionicMan]

$200 US nothing to Thai people?? 6,640 THB. Dear MrManGuy, Money is everything to Thai people. Learn it.Money #1 is a book that explains that for Thai, money comes alwsys first.

[Syzygies]

I know girls right now struggling to make even 200 baht per day during low season. Only a very small percentage of girls are able to pull in the 5000 LT Japanese customers on a nightly basis.This may seem strange, but I know a girl that hardly turns up to work at the bar any more, stays home watching Lakhorns and living on her savings, LOL, and taking a few sure thing private customers.

Really weird? The bar is too boring, but she will attend if I am known to be there, and she can get a good amount of money for certain. She certainly won't turn up for the prospect of making 200 Baht.

Recently went with a good customer for 4 days to Phuket. Hopefully not so boring as the bar.

[Syzygies]

Thailand's GFE advantage is fairly close to slipping away. Just about 5-10 years ago, every second hooker was sweet (and cheap! These days, it's every 10th, and given the prices, those odds are no longer fun unless you're truly desperate for that Thai GFE hooker experience which was more or less the norm before.Yes I feel for you. Gone are the days when we can change Thai girls every day and expect a fab GFE. I think of 25 years ago when nearly every Thai girl was sweet and GFE. The only remedy I find now is to collect some good girls, as well paid fuck buddies, and just keep repeating them, only occasionally resorting to try something new when desperate, and even then really spending time to check if there is any apparent chemisty. I get on pretty good with my regulars and they keep coming back for one reason or another (obviously money being the major one) but also having a moderately good time compared to what could be had with some of the random assholes out there.

I think the odds of one in every tenth can be improved on, if spend some time getting to know what the girls likes and is like. I better advice from bar staff that know me than what I get from papasans and mamasans in Soapies, Oilies or whatever, that I don't know.

Maybe there is a problem that I am 25 years older, and so now appeal to Thai girls less? However It is easy to see different attitudes to those of long ago. Maybe life was much more difficult 25 years ago, and Farangs were a possible and welcome way to forget their own world, briefly.

[Christian G]

Fire at Iron Club on Walking Street this afternoon. Doesn't appear to be a ton of damage.https://www.stickboybkk.com/news/fire-breaks-walking-street-go-go-bar/

" ... With the estimated damage was said to be around 3 to 5 million baht. "

[Nixonbd]

I think the odds of one in every tenth can be improved on, if spend some time getting to know what the girls likes and is like. I better advice from bar staff that know me than what I get from papasans and mamasans in Soapies, Oilies or whatever, that I don't know.

Maybe there is a problem that I am 25 years older, and so now appeal to Thai girls less? However It is easy to see different attitudes to those of long ago. Maybe life was much more difficult 25 years ago, and Farangs were a possible and welcome way to forget their own world, briefly.While I agree that GFE's are a rarity, they can be found. I have been going Costa Rica for 10 years and Thailand for seven years. One thing I find is that is you spend more than money to find out about a working woman, the better you will fair for a GFE. I frequent a lot of the same bars I always travel to and have come to know many women I have taken, as well as not taken. It's refreshing to go back someplace and they know you and welcome you. I believe it is all about how you treat the women. Treat her with respect and as if she is the only one there, your chances for GFE vastly improve. In short, money alone doesn't buy you a GFE. EnjoyI I will when I return to Patts in 20 days.

[Nixonbd]

https://www.stickboybkk.com/news/fire-breaks-walking-street-go-go-bar/

" ... With the estimated damage was said to be around 3 to 5 million baht. "There was a story in Pattaya One not too long ago that the bars in the "Happy Zone" had to take their signs down, due to safety concerns. One concern was that fire trucks would not be able to traverse the "Magnificent Mile". It appears that was not the case here. Cheers!

[Blanquiceleste]

This may seem strange, but I know a girl that hardly turns up to work at the bar any more, stays home watching Lakhorns and living on her savings, LOL, and taking a few sure thing private customers.

Really weird? The bar is too boring, but she will attend if I am known to be there, and she can get a good amount of money for certain. She certainly won't turn up for the prospect of making 200 Baht.

Recently went with a good customer for 4 days to Phuket. Hopefully not so boring as the bar.In every single country there are haves and have-nots. In NYC it is common to see the homeless hobo wound up in an alley shivering to death while a banker from Wall Street is snorting thru a $100 bill.

I am in planning mode for my upcoming trip and I texted a few chicks I have been with in past trips. Quite a few are telling me about holidays with customers to Vietnam, Japan, Singapore and Australia. A equal number are just plain happy to meet. One said to me "I know you are good man with big heart and always take care me. But this time for you I see you free. You only give me taxi money and tip. " So BB isn't wrong about the struggle for 200 baht.

[Dena0]

Had three days in Patts mid June, misplaced the report but it turned up so posting now. This maybe my 6th or 7th trip but first report (in the main as my nights involve usually good amounts of drink so recollection very hazy next day...

In the past used Mr Vichram for taxi's from BKK to Patts. Seems no longer in the business! So used Pattaya Central and ended up with two pretty wild drivers. Not use again and gladly pay few hundred Bhat premium for a sensible driver next time.

I would like to finish with a question if I may. Planning next trip late September to Patt's. I am thinking about staying at Renaissance Pattaya Resort & Spa. This is a new hotel in Jomtein (address given as Moo3, Na Jomtein, Sattahip). I have never ventured outside of South Pattaya. Staying at this place, which is listed as 7 miles from Pattaya, likely to a big turn off for company coming with me for the night? And or will I be battling constantly with taxi's or being seriously ripped off to go that far? I don't mind some extra expense and disruption to stay out there but if it's a constant headache for above reasons will abandon the idea of evening trying a stay there! Any informed opinion much appreciated.As to taxis: Tom's taxi was A+ (google for contact info).

As to Jomtien location: Totally a headache. You will spend a lot of time studying taxi interiors both ways. Add 1. 5 hours total commute based on my experience two nights ago.

[EihTooms]

If they treated falang costumers better they would get more barfines. All I see night after night is a bunch of Japanese men hogging all the girls.I can't say I see Japanese men hogging all the girls but I do see what I would have to describe as a men (Asian or Westerner, young or old, fit or slobs, doesn't matter) hand in hand with a girl for whom they seem to have very little expectations of something very good, satisfying, rewarding and hassle-free happening once they get to the room. Sit at the rail in Big Dogs Bar at the entrance to Nana Plaza for a while, or whatever is similar in Pattaya, and you will see customer after customer walking out with their go-go bar girl of choice in a state of low level caution and wariness, nothing like an air of "What fun! Great times ahead, can't wait. " As though they are pretty sure she is leading them to some kind of land mine of unpleasant surprise and probable disappointment, whatever was suggested by her behavior in the bar.

Am I reading too much in the body language here? Perhaps. But it is better defined when you contrast it to the way customers look walking out with their Ladyboy choice of the evening. Seriously. I am in no way recommending Ladyboys or even thinking of taking one. But those guys, the customers taking out Ladyboys I mean, look completely at ease and happy to be going wherever they are heading with their "lady", chatting it up, smiles and confident attitudes abounding. Very much the opposite of what the men who are accompanying a real female look like on the way to the battlefield. I don't think I saw that happening 20+ years ago. But this generation's crop of P4P Thai girls have earned their reputation for being full of promise in the bars and fairly lousy at the point of delivery in bed I think.

[Old New Guy]

Money #1 is a book that explains that for Thai, money comes alwsys first.It certainly does not always come first, and I have seen that with my eyes, many, many times. But I agree that it's given more importance than in other cultures.

Anyway, I came back few days ago and have had a great time, possibly one of the best ever. First I called Aon the petite Laotian of the previous times, which said she had a BF. But a text offer of Bt 2,000 made the guy disappear the following day, while for the first night I took a quite decent FL at Lucifer. Jokeful, slim and easy going, she did not mention money at any point. Then moved to the Lao lady, but she was acting a bit too much Lao (in lack of a better description) for my current tastes. And on the third night I took 28 yr young Boo from I disco, she's also slim with a good body, although her round face and flat nose may not be the like of everyone. I kept her until now with no regrets, she went beyond GFE, to become total care and availability. No anal but given her sweetness I didn't felt particularly attracted by that. As usual, did not see anyone look above 7 in Insomnia and Lucifer, but there are two tall jaw droppers at Crystal in LK metro. One have natural boobs that have to be seen to be believed. Both appeared kinda stuck up. A friend of mine is saying that big boobed Maa at Sky bar in Soy six is a great fuck, for sure she's not rushing as it took almost 1 HR to service this other buddy which is enjoying his very 1st time in Thailand. That's all I can contribute for this time, good luck.

[Old New Guy]

Very true but they forget not all falang are poor. If they treated falang costumers better they would get more barfines. All I see night after night is a bunch of Japanese men hogging all the girls.It is not that they treat the Japanese better than others. It is that the Japanese is content in getting a stunner (or the like) giving a very little amount of sex, same for the girl especially for the price she's being paid for. While the average Westerner monger wants total satisfaction and if not getting it will not return and spread the word about it. Try happily paying Japanese prices and behaving like one (includes almost no English spoken), and you will see how popular and "well treated" you will become in these clubs.

[Blanquiceleste]

Very true but they forget not all falang are poor. If they treated falang costumers better they would get more barfines. All I see night after night is a bunch of Japanese men hogging all the girls.I think we need to call the bluff here. While it is visible that Asian men blow more money with little expectation in return, one needs to acknowledge the fact that there are a good number of Western men doing the same.

If you are in doubt take a look at the photo gallery of Sapphire AGogo. All you see are Western men. For that matter, any other Gogo that puts up pics of its patrons. All Western men. Now they are not getting all that for free, are they?

[BionicMan]

It is not that they treat the Japanese better than others. It is that the Japanese is content in getting a stunner (or the like) giving a very little amount of sex, same for the girl especially for the price she's being paid for. While the average Westerner monger wants total satisfaction and if not getting it will not return and spread the word about it. Try happily paying Japanese prices and behaving like one (includes almost no English spoken), and you will see how popular and "well treated" you will become in these clubs.The Japanese are used to their snack bars or whisky bars were they spend a fortune and at the best they flirt with the girls.

So theybdonthe same in bkk with the bonus the costs are cheaper and the girls go with them to their rooms for a fraction of the Japanese price.

Guys have Not high sex expectations from bar girls.

[MrManGuy]

I think we need to call the bluff here. While it is visible that Asian men blow more money with little expectation in return, one needs to acknowledge the fact that there are a good number of Western men doing the same.

If you are in doubt take a look at the photo gallery of Sapphire AGogo. All you see are Western men. For that matter, any other Gogo that puts up pics of its patrons. All Western men. Now they are not getting all that for free, are they?Maybe I was just unlucky, maybe I was not assertive enough in picking my girl. I just found the GoGo bars to be too much. Too many girls fighting over Japanese men, not paying me any attention. Staff do not care about getting you a girl, they just want you to order drinks as fast as possible. One even took my half finished drink away and said "you want another? The service in the GoGo bars is appalling. And you have to sit there and suffer them for a minimum of 20 or 30 minutes.

I did foolishly pass on bar fining two stunners for various reasons when I shouldn't have passed. I don't know what you mean by service levels. Thai women are the perfect companion. They know how to be submissive and get along. I really don't know what more to expect from a woman I just met 15 minutes ago whom I'm paying to be my girlfriend for the night. I've never had unacceptable service from a Thai woman and 95% of the time it has been excellent service. I short timed my semi "regular" in Bangkok and she ended up staying and talking with me for an extra 3 hours.

[HorneeFalang]

Sit at the rail in Big Dogs Bar at the entrance to Nana Plaza for a while, or whatever is similar in Pattaya, and you will see customer after customer walking out with their go-go bar girl of choice in a state of low level caution and wariness, nothing like an air of "What fun! Great times ahead, can't wait.So true about being front row at Big Dogs. What vantage points are of similar ilk in Patts?

[Old New Guy]

I don't know what you mean by service levels. Thai women are the perfect companion. They know how to be submissive and get along. I really don't know what more to expect from a woman I just met 15 minutes ago whom I'm paying to be my girlfriend for the night. I've never had unacceptable service from a Thai woman and 95% of the time it has been excellent service.If that was true then you're blessed with too many qualities and luck to waste your time discussing here, let alone paying for sex. In that case please leave us alone in our sharing of founded, practical information and stories.

Unfortunately, reality is very different, anyone can and will receive poor or even no service from a Thai prostitute. It happens a lot more than 5% of the times, I promise you. I'm not the one saying that, but countless of reports, verbal or written, check there are some ten just in the last two pages. Now come back saying that then it's customer's fault, and you'll really make me laugh.

Over the years I've learned to put to good use the bad experiences to refine my monger's sixth sense. To an extent, that worked, but still I fail at times. That's how this hobby works, take it or leave.

[Horatio]

Unfortunately, reality is very different, anyone can and will receive poor or even no service from a Thai prostitute. It happens a lot more than 5% of the times, I promise you. I'm not the one saying that, but countless of reports, verbal or written, check there are some ten just in the last two pages. Now come back saying that then it's customer's fault, and you'll really make me laugh.

Over the years I've learned to put to good use the bad experiences to refine my monger's sixth sense. To an extent, that worked, but still I fail at times. That's how this hobby works, take it or leave.When I have asked about how a bar girl thinks, I was told it all about who is paying. I understand that and appreciated the view point, but a lot of people are going to act different if you try to take their situation into account. Like sitting with one bar girl for a couple of nights then switching. If I want GFE then I need to treat with a certain level of respect. Just my thought, people should do whatever they think best.

[Mr Enternational]

I've never had unacceptable service from a Thai woman and 95% of the time it has been excellent service.I have the exact same experience that you have. Neither can I recall any of my friends ever complaining. Maybe it is the punters themselves that are changing. Who knows, in 20 more years I may be complaing about how it is hard to get good service from Thai hookers. But until then, let the good times roll.

[Pipe Layer99]

I've never had unacceptable service from a Thai woman and 95% of the time it has been excellent service. I short timed my semi "regular" in Bangkok and she ended up staying and talking with me for an extra 3 hours.You haven't been here long enough. I have been living here for 4 years. Most of the girls have been good = that means the majority of them. BUT 95% Hell No. I would say more like 85%.

If you spend more time here, you will find out. I had one from the club a couple of years ago who agreed to stay all night. We went to my guesthouse around 3 am. Then she was ready to go at 0900 without a fuck in the morning. Of course I told her I expect a morning / afternoon session before she left. She claimed she STAYED all night. Yeah she was sleeping all night. No need to sleep in my room ALL NIGHT if you aren't going to fuck in the morning! That's the same as ST. So I gave her 1000 to leave. She was all upset, crying and shit. I showed her the door and went back to sleep.

I had another one who claimed say she 'needs' to give a key to her 'sister', after the first round. Yes, in Thailand. I paid her less money to leave. Told her that she can to come back for the rest. Next time I saw her, she wanted to come again. I asked her if her sister has a key first. LOL Then I took another girl right next to her just to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) her off and of course to get my nut.

Had another one give me a 1 minute blowjob last year. Then she asked for a condom. Not ok in my book. She demanded money for 'HER' time. She was told to leave and with 200 baht for her taxi. As if my time was not part of the equation. I can go on and on. All unacceptable performances. So 85% would be a better average, not 95%. That's roughly 1 out of 10.

Some of the girls will test you. Stand your ground and tell them what you expect upfront. If they balk, you can change the rate.

[Blanquiceleste]

You haven't been here long enough. I have been living here for 4 years. Most of the girls have been good = that means the majority of them. BUT 95% Hell No. I would say more like 85%.

If you spend more time here, you will find out. I had one from the club a couple of years ago who agreed to stay all night. We went to my guesthouse around 3 am. Then she was ready to go at 0900 without a fuck in the morning. Of course I told her I expect a morning / afternoon session before she left. She claimed she STAYED all night. Yeah she was sleeping all night. No need to sleep in my room ALL NIGHT if you aren't going to fuck in the morning! That's the same as ST. So I gave her 1000 to leave. She was all upset, crying and shit. I showed her the door and went back to sleep.

I had another one who claimed say she 'needs' to give a key to her 'sister', after the first round. Yes, in Thailand. I paid her less money to leave. Told her that she can to come back for the rest. Next time I saw her, she wanted to come again. I asked her if her sister has a key first. LOL Then I took another girl right next to her just to **** her off and of course to get my nut.

Had another one give me a 1 minute blowjob last year. Then she asked for a condom. Not ok in my book. She demanded money for 'HER' time. She was told to leave and with 200 baht for her taxi. As if my time was not part of the equation. I can go on and on. All unacceptable performances. So 85% would be a better average, not 95%. That's roughly 1 out of 10.

Some of the girls will test you. Stand your ground and tell them what you expect upfront. If they balk, you can change the rate.I concur. While the majority of experiences have been good for me in nearly two decades, there are some entire forgettable ones, which I simply don't seem to forget. The lost key is one of the oldest tricks in the book. I think it might be an interesting and informative thread to list down all the excuses Thai girls (any girl in any country for that matter) have given mongers to slip out of an LT arrangement.

I will start with.

2 - Taking suddenly ill after the first round.

3 - Son needs milk at home.

4 - Go home to fill water in tank.

5 - Friend had accident on scooter.

Let us make this one count guys.

[Soldierb11]

I will be back in Pattaya early September and just finished reading the last 150 pages of reports.

For Newbies-.

This will be my 9th trip and cumulatively have spent well over 6 months in Pattaya and I STILL went back 150 pages! You guys that read two pages and ask questions are lucky that Banana boi answer you most of the time. Really lucky.

Thank yous all around to BB, Mr. E, Uncle V, the Hawk brothers (Wild and FL), blanquiceleste. There are many more that need to be thanked but I am late for a date in Parque LLeras now and need to cut this short. So apologies to the contributors that I didn't name by name.

I would like to summarize a few things from the last 150 posts-.

-It is 2017 nothing is the same as it was in 2012 or 2005. Get over it. Stop reminiscing, you will have plenty of time for that later when you are in a nursing home. Deal with the cards you are dealt in 2017 and move on.

-It is your vacation or your retirement do what makes you happy. If that means you are a BR freelancer kind of monger, do that then, if you are more into high end a-gogo girls, do that then. Don't worry about what anyone else thinks.

-This whole debate the last 10 pages about Ferraris and prices in Pattaya vs FKK vs Medellin casa. Those comparisons are only relevant when you are sitting at home trying to decide on your next vacation. Once your boots are on the ground, you have to deal with the situation on the ground. That means if agogo club wants 1500 baht BF and girl wants 5000 LT your choice is to either negotiate with her and probably pay close to that or go somewhere else. Whining about the prices of Atlantis in AC are 50% of what I pay in Baccara are senseless, book your ticket to AC.

Now, newbies and specifically Horatio.

Mr. E gave you advice that many of you are forgetting. Golden rule- he who has the gold makes the rules. So if you don't like the fat chick that sits next to you don't feel obligated to buy her a drink. That doesn't mean by a jerk about it, just politely tell her that you are just looking around now, period, end of discussion.

Eat pussy, don't be a pussy.

Again thanks to all the contributors, 98% of anything you want to know has already been written here several times fellas, you just have to make the effort.

Suerte.

[Dg8787]

One caveat to the Golden Rule. You got to have enough gold.

[Horatio]

I will be back in Pattaya early September and just finished reading the last 150 pages of reports.

For Newbies-.

This will be my 9th trip and cumulatively have spent well over 6 months in Pattaya and I STILL went back 150 pages! You guys that read two pages and ask questions are lucky that Banana boi answer you most of the time. Really lucky.

Thank yous all around to BB, Mr. E, Uncle V, the Hawk brothers (Wild and FL), blanquiceleste. There are many more that need to be thanked but I am late for a date in Parque LLeras now and need to cut this short. So apologies to the contributors that I didn't name by name.

I would like to summarize a few things from the last 150 posts-.

-It is 2017 nothing is the same as it was in 2012 or 2005. Get over it. Stop reminiscing, you will have plenty of time for that later when you are in a nursing home. Deal with the cards you are dealt in 2017 and move on.

-It is your vacation or your retirement do what makes you happy. If that means you are a BR freelancer kind of monger, do that then, if you are more into high end a-gogo girls, do that then. Don't worry about what anyone else thinks.

-This whole debate the last 10 pages about Ferraris and prices in Pattaya vs FKK vs Medellin casa. Those comparisons are only relevant when you are sitting at home trying to decide on your next vacation. Once your boots are on the ground, you have to deal with the situation on the ground. That means if agogo club wants 1500 baht BF and girl wants 5000 LT your choice is to either negotiate with her and probably pay close to that or go somewhere else. Whining about the prices of Atlantis in AC are 50% of what I pay in Baccara are senseless, book your ticket to AC.

Now, newbies and specifically Horatio.

Mr. E gave you advice that many of you are forgetting. Golden rule- he who has the gold makes the rules. So if you don't like the fat chick that sits next to you don't feel obligated to buy her a drink. That doesn't mean by a jerk about it, just politely tell her that you are just looking around now, period, end of discussion.

Eat pussy, don't be a pussy.

Again thanks to all the contributors, 98% of anything you want to know has already been written here several times fellas, you just have to make the effort.

Suerte.My problem isn't the fat chick that sits next to me. It is the hot girl that sits next to me that I took home 2 days ago and want to take home again in a few days. It's just now I want her friend. Maybe it is as easy as just saying to her not tonight. It doesn't seem like it would work that way if I still want the big GFE again in a couple of days.

[Mr Enternational]

My problem isn't the fat chick that sits next to me. It is the hot girl that sits next to me that I took home 2 days ago and want to take home again in a few days. It's just now I want her friend. Maybe it is as easy as just saying to her not tonight. It doesn't seem like it would work that way if I still want the big GFE again in a couple of days.And you do not think she will want your baht again in a couple of days? Somehow you keep forgetting their purpose for being there is money; probably the same purpose you have for going to work. Remember it is paid companionship.

To me, one thing that sets Thailand apart is that the girls know what they are. Even still, it seems many mongers do not realize what they are. If you ask a Thai girl what she does then she will say, "I go with man for money." If you send her a message wanting her to come over she has no problem telling you, "I am with customer" if that is exactly what she is doing.

In many of the Latin American countries you will just get the girls avoiding your calls or making up lies if she is with another customer. In those threads you get the bullshit of guys throwing around the term semi-prostitute. Guys and girls pussyfooting around not wanting to admit to each other that she is a hooker when it is obvious if you are giving her money for sex then that is exactly what she is. To me either she is selling ass or she is not. Ain't no in between.

When you fully realize the girls in the bar are there to sell ass to you as a customer then you will no longer give a fuck what the girl you took two days ago thinks about you going with a different girl today. You will also be able to return to the first girl to buy ass without feeling ashamed or whatever it is that guys feel when they want to take another girl but think there will be bad blood with the first girl.

The hot chick and the fat chick are in the same boat. There is no reason to put the one you consider hot on a pedestal and go out of your way to "impress" her by not taking another chick in hopes of keeping GFE-favor alive. It is your money that got you the GFE as a customer, and it can get it for you again.