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Lavaflix

09-12-17, 10:24

Aloha all,

What a great end to my first mongering trip ever.

I could not keep up the drinking, shagging, and posting. Something had to give! Blurry recap of my last three days or what I can remember in no particular order.

I was really surprised to get some real heat off of the Soi 6 girls for being a "butterfly". I just don't get it. Honestly I could give a fuck and started off ignoring the BS but in street confrontations and tug o war with me stopped being funny fast. Certain bars went off limits fast which was a shame because I wanted to try half the gals in Toy Box for example. You look at line postings and a lot of them are "my world is ending, so sad about life, man fucking lie what for, etc. " Really weird and bad for business since they are 10 x the butterflies we are. LOL. Whatever.

Also. BFed a LT from toy box and she was telling me about her baby and showing me pictures of her with her "daughter". This bar girl, Pu, was tight! Tight skin, no scars, tiny pink innie nipples, zero baby damage. Are they using other girl's kids to get money? Wow. Whatever. Get naked and shower please cause imma going to eat you into a quivering mess to help you get over it. And she did.

Any suggestions on dealing with the above for my next visit would be most appreciated.

Two more goals. One accomplished, one not. Devils Den. Just didn't get to do it I guess for two reasons. First, there is just so much cheap grade A pussy out there it isn't necessary. Second, I prefer the GFE style of treating the girls really well, long DATY, cuddling, "sweet talk", food and movies, etc. Come to think of it, this may be part of my troubles on 6.

The other goal was a BJ bar. Not a high goal but one none the less. Went with Nok at My Friend You (good suggestion Mr B). Looked passed, well, Nok (super sweet) and just did it right there on the public couch. She's like "take pants off" I open them up. "No, off baby" I slide them down a little more. Eww the couch! "No baby, like this" Woosh! Bye bye pants, Hello, nasty couch stuck to my anus. All in all she did a great job. Saliva and cum all over the place. Just had to zone out and accept the situation. LOL. 5 out of 10 (8 for Nok's skillz).

Other than that there were two more ThaiFriendly meetups at 1000 and 1300st each. More oil massages at Risa on soi 8. Fantastic every time at 1000 each and the girls would "fight" over me after the first visit loved it. One of them even came to my place for a quick st fuck and run before the LT main event arrived later.

My Grand Finale was a TF no show on the last night! Wuuuuuut? Meh, Down to Walking street I go. I love the windmill, sugar, babies, Annabelle's outfit. All three same same. Nude rude and slutty! Stopped in at sugar babies first at 20:00 and started off as the only customer for the first 10 minutes. Weird.

A little tiny cute thing, A cups, white skin, long brown / blonde Japanese hair look 90 lbs max, big eyes, devilish smile, and a dirty little mouth! Forgot the 3 finger vag gap while standing! Immediately started staring at me and flirting when I sat down and she stood out from the crowd. Signaled her to see me, started the LDs (draft was 55, don't remember the LDs, sorry) and bought a (one and only one) round for my server and mamasan. When not dancing it was a slow super sexy grind on my lap with whispers in my ear like "you like eat my pussy? "my pussy want eat your cock", etc. All in the sweetest little voice and eyes you can imagine. When she danced that vag gap was in its full glory with the same slow gyrations lifting that micro skirt revealing the white panties all stuck up inside and that little imp grin looking back at me over her shoulder. Wanted to hold off till after 24:00 in hopes of a 1000 BF But fuck! Rise and shine we are out of here! Didn't want to take the chance of losing her.

Unrelated. Strange thing in SB. A Korean tour group stopped by, older, husbands and wives. Watched and nodded in approval like admiring a museum exhibit. Eventually someone raised a flag and they all got up, the wives approached the girls on stage, gave them all 20 bht and left. LOL. OK.

Out with my sugar baby by 21:30 dressed like a pink China doll for a bite to eat and back to the hotel. BF 1500 LT 4000. The most I payed the entire trip but the last of 6 nights so WTF!

Had a massage that afternoon so wasn't desperate even with the perma chub she was giving me. Treated her like a princess. Nice taxi for eats and then the hotel. Super long slow DATY had her up the walls. Jumped on me like I was going somewhere and off we went. Thought I was going to split the tiny thing in half but she shoe horned herself on and we banged hard for a long time (for me anyhow), mish, CB, RCB (OMG the view! Finished in DS across that tiny smoking ass! I can still see that devilish grin, picking the cum out of her hair and licking it off her fingers before sucking the last out of me, condom goo and all. Showered off and we fell asleep all cuddled up for a couple hours. Alarm at 5. Shock and awe as I gave her the boot. Taxi to BKK by 6.

Totally fucking worth it!

I will be back.

FormulaOneFan

09-12-17, 11:32

After an 18 hour layover in Singapore (on purpose. See Singapore forum for reports), I arrived in Thailand on Saturday late afternoon. As mentioned, I didn't pre-arrange a taxi to Pattaya, but had no issue getting one at the taxi stand and paid 1500 thb. Yes, I overpaid and could have saved a couple hundred baht, but in the whole scheme of things, not a biggie. The driver was efficient and got me to my destination in good time, so no complaints really. I'm staying at the Areca Lodge near LK Metro in the 'Evergreen' building. Good and bad. The good is that it's set way back from Soi Diana so the noise from LK Metro and associated bars / nightlife doesn't filter into my room at all. Its very quiet. Also good, there are 2 nice pools, one big one right outside my building, and a smaller one nearer to the main Areca building. The bad. Only a minor inconvenience, but the taxi dropoff for Areca Lodge is a good 5 min walk from the Evergreen building if you can't convince the driver to drop you at the 'back entrance'. I was successful the first night, but subsequent nights the driver was clueless or unwilling to go down the alley and turn left to the other dropoff / entrance. Also, as previously mentioned in the Pattaya hotel thread, Areca is guest friendly, will take girls ID cards on entry but no call when they leave, and does charge 500 thb per guest if you bring more than one guest.

Saturday night. I pondered a trip down to Soi6 to whet my whistle, but it was getting later in the evening and I wanted to wander LK Metro and Walking Street. Started out at LK Metro and went to several of the GoGo's as I had a good time there last trip with a buddy. The scene was decent, but it was earlyish (930 pm) - overall the quality of the girls was good, but I wasn't feeling the vibe all that much as it wasn't that busy, so I decided to head to WS for a looksee. I started at Skyfall to get some airconditioning and a drink. Not my favorite club by any means, but when you need a drink and to cool off, it hit the spot. Over the course of the evening I hit Baccara, Farenheight, Windmill, Crazy House, Infinity, Happy, Heaven Above, and a few other randoms that I don't remember the names of. Spent the most time bouncing between Windmill and Crazy House. Started upstairs at Windmill as it was packed downstairs and met a nice girl who entertained me for a good hour or so. It was still way too early for me to consider a barfine (11 pm by now at the latest), but she and the mamasan were working me pretty hard. I stepped out and went to a few other gogos to mix things up for a bit before returning to Windmill and taking a spot downstairs. I waved over a girl that fit my spec and she immediately came over and brought one of her friends. Cute as well. After a round of drinks they had to go dance, and like clockwork another set of 2-3 girls came by. I was the classic rock-star to them. Loose with my money and the drinks were flowing. I know I'm just an ATM to them and the house, but it was fun and I enjoyed a TON of mutual groping, making out, pussy play, etc. This went on for another 90 mins or so until a buddy called me and I had to step out to take his call. I bid the girls goodbye and said I would be back (maybe) later. I took this opportunity to check out Lucifer and iBar as it was starting to get to the hour that these venues pick up the pace. Lucifer was packed and the ratio was pretty guy heavy, so I skipped out pretty quickly. IBar was a bit better, definitely more ladies than guys, but still had a pretty slow vibe to it. I figured what the heck and headed back to Windmill to see which of the posse of 8-10 girls I had picked up would be my choice for the night. Turns out I didn't really have to make that choice since as soon as I walked back in, the original girl ran right over to me, grabbed me and escorted me to a booth. She called over another of her friends (not one from before) to join us and we immediatley started a three way makeout session. I will refer to the girls as 'hot girl' for the original girl that came over, and 'new girl' for the other one since I have no recollection of their names or numbers (if they even have numbers at windmill). The new girl was a bit more timid, but once she relaxed she was as into it as the other girl, if not more so. The other girls from earlier kept coming by to get in on the action, but I was pretty set on the choice I had and the girls were playing territorial at this point. Mamasan comes over and asks if I want to barfine one or both of them, and I opt for both. Yay! They both cried out when I said that and also bought a round of drinks for them, the waitresses, and the mamasan. We negotiate 2500 thb each for LT at my hotel and they go get changed. I settle up with the house and give my apologies the half dozen other ladies who I left disappointed.

We leave the club and the girls are hungry, so we stop at a street food stall and grab food. Generally I expect the girl (s) to ask me to pay, but hot girl pays and we're on our way. Its starting to rain so I decide we'll get a 'regular' taxi and eat the extra cost. Driver understands 'back entrance' to Areca and drops us at the correct entry. Girls check in, I pay joiner fee for new girl, and away we go. Hot girl immediately gets undressed and is parading around the room naked as the day she was born. New girl is a bit more timid, even a bit shy, and goes into the bathroom to change and puts on a towel. We adjourn to the patio to eat and have a beer before hitting the shower. Again, new girl is shy and wants to shower alone, after hot girl and I shower together. Not a problem. As new girl was washing, hot girl and I get started on the bed. Ding #1 - she only will give CBJ as she says she has a sore in her mouth. Better safe than sorry, but disappointing. Ding #2 - hot girl is crazy, in a good and bad way. She might have been on something or just really drunk and hyper. She wanted to fuck, but kept changing positions every 30 seconds and making it chaotic. New girl joins us on the bed so I switch things up and focus on her. She's much more receptive to the attention and responds well to DATY as well as gave a nice BBBJ. After her BJ, hot girl caps me again and jumps on while I attend to new girl's pussy with my tongue. I switch focus back to new girl as she seems much more interested in sex than just fooling around. Hot girl goes over to the couch and was sitting legs up spread eagle telling me she wanted me to fuck her- while I'm fucking her friend. Crazy stuff. I end round 1 with the new girl and we clean up and go back to the food we hadn't finished. Round 2 starts shortly after a quick shower on my part. Less crazy as the first round as I think the food calmed down the hot girl, but similar. I alternate focus betweent the two girls and end up popping with the hot girl this time around.

I had arranged LT, but at this point we're 2 rounds in and it's nearly 7 am, so I make the call to send them on their way and sleep alone. I give them each 100 thb for cabfare and hit the sack exhausted.

FormulaOneFan

09-12-17, 11:56

Refreshed after sleeping until 1 pm, I decide to get some food and head to Soi6 to see how things were there. I take the baht bus and get there around 145 pm. Girls in most of the bars but all the lights off. I wander down all the way to Beach Road and grab a beer at the bar there on the left. Guy tells me that he can't sell me a beer until 2 pm unless he puts it in a cup. He just brought me a bottle of beer anyway, so whatever crackdown / hours restrictions are pretty loosely followed. After my beer I decide to wander back up and see if things had picked up any in the 30 mins or so since I last wandered by. They had a bit; more girls, more customers, and some lights and signs of activity starting to pick up. I stop in to Red Point to get a beer and some airconditioning. I'm joined by a not so hot girl who wants to chat, and I figure why not, I'm not going upstairs with her though. I finish my beer and keep going. I reach Lisa Bar and I spot a girl who fits my current mood. Petite, cute smile, and a nice ass. I stop in and order a beer and a drink for her and we start chatting. Blah blah blah, she's new (only 1 day in Pattaya), etc. Whatever, I'm fondling her ass, checking out her chest, and testing if I think she'll be worth the trip upstairs. She's rubbing my leg and junk, so things look promising. We go upstairs (300 thb for room, 1000 to the girl. At Lisa Bar they asked me to pay all upfront. That was new to me) and the SOP stuff. Off to the shower and then the room. I made a good choice. No baby damage, small but perky natural breasts, and the ass looks as good naked as it did with her sexy outfit on. We makeout for a few minutes and then she puts the cap on me. No BJ at all, just jumps right on top of me. For the first 10 minutes I felt like I was her sex toy, she rode and ground on me like there was no tomorrow until she collapsed ontop of me shuddering. She kisses me and thanks me before we flip over for some missionary and finish in doggie. I had to see that nice ass as I finished things up. We shower and kiss on the way out before I leave.

I go back to the room with the mindset of taking a nap, but I'll be damned if my mind kept wandering to the prior days events and I kept getting an erection that kept me from getting to sleep. Its probably 530 pm or so, and I say 'fuck it' and head back to Soi6 - this time looking for some bigger natural boobs. I wander for a while, fighting off an aggressive ladyboy from one of the bars on the other side of the street who had a vicelike grip on my arm at one point. As I pass by Angel Witch I spot my next target. Very fair skinned, 5'3" tall, with what appear to be nice natural see-cups. I say appear since she was wearing a bra, but my goal was to find out if they were real before we head upstairs. I get a drink for each of us and start exploring. From what I could tell from the early intel is that they were in fact real, but not quite as big as advertised due to a padded bra. Oh well, she's still cute and funny (decent english) so I put a marker in my head. If she touches my junk BEFORE she asks if I want to go upstairs, then it's a go. Bingo! And up we go. Similar to earlier only this time I showered solo (she was shy). We started on the bed and made out for abit before I started exploring her nice natural breasts and flat tone stomach. I made motions of DATY and she tensed up before grabbing a condom and motioning me to fuck her. Who am I to disappoint a hot young naked lady? As with the girl earlier, she was very sensitive and either she had an orgasm or she's a great actress with control of her vaginal lubrication on demand. After a short bit of missionary, we switched to cowgirl and she rode me like no tomorrow before doing this strange purr / moan sound. She wasn't a squirter, but she did produce a large volume of secretions and I was pretty wet from her. We mixed it up with several postions before finally popping in modified chair- I had to see her nice natural rack as I finally finished.

I lucked out both times. Often Soi6 encounters are VERY mechanical and SOP, but I chose 2 girls that were not the norm.

I'll post the evening report later. I need to go get my dick sucked.

Blanquiceleste

09-12-17, 13:56

(except maybe for a small deposit covering the airport pickup).Even that is always paid for at the end of the ride when you reach your destination.

Blanquiceleste

09-12-17, 14:25

...but no call when they leave,

Started out at LK Metro and went to several of the GoGo's as I had a good time there last trip with a buddy.

Over the course of the evening I hit Baccara, Farenheight, Windmill, Crazy House, Infinity, Happy, Heaven Above, and a few other randoms that I don't remember the names of. Spent the most time bouncing between Windmill and Crazy House.

We negotiate 2500 thb each for LT at my hotel and they go get changed. I stayed at Areca in April and they called each time the girl left. Standards must be slipping.

Whoa! What a start. Nearly a dozen Gogo bars in one evening. I am not going to embarrass myself by asking what your damages on drinks were. Sounds like it really does not matter much.

2500 baht each for LT from a Gogo (even if it is Windmill) is fantastic. Great job on the negotiations.

No BJ at all, just jumps right on top of me.

I made motions of DATY and she tensed up before grabbing a condom and motioning me to fuck her.

I'll post the evening report later. I need to go get my dick sucked.You are indeed a gentleman. Am sure you have read all this before here, but on Soi 6 the girls have seen it all. Ask for everything you want upfront before you take the girl upstairs. That way there will be little or no surprise.

If you are in the mood for a proper BBBJ refer to the numerous reports here discussing BJ bars. Let a specialist handle the family jewels.

FormulaOneFan

09-12-17, 14:41

Drink damage was a few thousand baht that night. Most bars I did a one and done to see what the scene looked like, with minimal if any lady drinks. Only when I'm settled did I break out the rock star routine and make it rain drinks.

I was pleased with the LT rate, and I didn't mention barfine was 750 baht each. Seemed overall a decent rate.

As for soi6 - agreed on strategy. I'm a go with the flow kinda guy most of the time; like to see what happens. I try to only go upstairs with girls I get a good vibe from. If no DATY or BJ, so be it as long as the interaction is good as well as the sex.

I'm honestly not really a BJ guy, sex is the main event for me and I don't mind skipping the blow. I'll gladly trade a bj for a good dfk session any day.

Just got back from probably my best soi6 adventure ever, will post when I get caught up. Incredible GFE experience with a girl at wicked. Checked all the boxes, make out session, BBBJ, daty, she orgasmed at least twice, and great sex.

FormulaOneFan

09-12-17, 18:10

I'm going to revise that drink damage up to several thousand baht based on my night so far. Honestly I don't count my baht that closely and have probably spent 80,000 baht so far in 4 days not counting hotel, but that's how I roll. I like to party with lots of girls getting friendly and have no problem buying drinks for the wait staff, mamasan, and random hotties that want to make out.

Bogman

09-13-17, 15:12

FormulaOneFan.

Thanks for your trip reports, they are very informative so a big help as I'm going for first time in Jan. I've been to Thailand before incl Bangkok and Phuket so RTFF is a must as most of the info is here.

Looking forward to the rest of your report and enjoy.

Bogman.

ItIsMe83

09-13-17, 15:42

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FL Hawk

09-13-17, 21:10

I lucked out both times. Often Soi6 encounters are VERY mechanical and SOP, but I chose 2 girls that were not the norm.

I love Soi 6 and have had my best encounters with girls there. A few are lazy, but only there have I had GFE's, near GFE's and near PSE's. Some of those girls can go and go and go and they take your pleasure very seriously. Most are average in appearance, but as you found, if you keep your eyes open, you can find some real hotties who will rival most any WS gogo girl. Sigh, I will be back in under 5 weeks!

FormulaOneFan

09-14-17, 12:40

Pipe Layer99

09-14-17, 14:25

Finally got sticker shock last night. Decided to do WS gogos and pick me one for the experience. Went into Skyfall, some good lookers, nothing really knocked my socks off. Asked mamasan about barfine and she comes back with 2 levels of girls, 2000 and 3000 barfineL.

There are gogo bars which charge 2000 BF before midnight. Been like this for over a year now.News to me, and I live here.

GoneFishin walked away from that bad deal. Good for him. More important, are other guys so hard up that you are willing to pay a 2000 baht BF?

I think most guys will use common sense and go to another place.

SlowAndEasy

09-14-17, 16:29

I have been remiss finishing my reports. My laptop charger is borked so I'm rationing battery. I have more to post and will do soon.

In Singapore now. Hard to adapt to the difference from Pattaya to Singapore.Thanks for reporting. I think that Soi6 is the best bang for the buck (pun intended). I liked LK metro as well and I enjoyed just hanging out at some of the beer bars. The quality at the beer bars are very low, but you do find an occasional gem or two.

FL Hawk

09-14-17, 17:13

L.

GoneFishin walked away from that bad deal. Good for him. More important, are other guys so hard up that you are willing to pay a 2000 baht BF?

I think most guys will use common sense and go to another place.If there is another place that has the type of girls he is looking for, then yes, by all means, go someplace else. Don't spend just to be spending! And I have followed advice similar to yours about passing on an alleged overpriced girl. Girl wanted 5000 (BF and her fee) and I, using my "common sense", wouldn't budge above 3500 total. She would not budge either. You would be proud. I left and, yea, saved me $50 by doing so! I showed her! Yep, I passed up a hot, beautiful girl that was making me drool, real model material, a potential porn star! I went elsewhere for cheaper. But there was nothing else like her for the price. But, I came home with an extra $50 in my pocket. But no super hot, beautiful girl! I let my "common sense" rule. And I regret it to this day. I was actually a fool to pass her by.

Why do we go to Pattaya? To have sex with beautiful woman for cheap. We spend a fair amount of money to travel there and to stay there for that opportunity. On a vacation to the other side of the world, $50 is nothing. Passing up on the opportunity to fulfill the goal of your trip, having sex with beautiful women, just to save a few bucks, to me, shows a LACK of common sense. If this was a scuba diving trip, would I be showing good common sense by deciding to save $50 by visiting a dying reef instead of the healthy reef? I don't think so.

That said, I understand your view point. But you need to accept the alternate view of the occasional Pattaya traveler. Certainly, don't overpay! My advice is to shop around and see what is out there before you drop in excess of 5000 baht on a girl each night. There are bargains to be found off of WS. BR occasionally has some lookers. Soi 6 often has a couple of girls that are as good as any on WS and who will give a near GFE. But if a man finds that girl that makes his jaw drop to the floor, he should not let an added $50 or even $100 stop him.

McFuck

09-14-17, 18:59

BangkokBull

09-15-17, 01:00

The simple answer is that nobody knows what will be open and what will be closed. Nothing has been announced officially. But my guess is that most will be closed for a few days around 26 October. As a pointer towards that all Thai TV channels will be running special programs already from 25 October.

But again it is only a guess.

Hi all,

I am planning to visit Pattaya from 27th October to 31st October 2017. I heard that there is a royal funeral from 26 to 29 October; Would all establishments will be closed? Should I change my travel plans? I am really confused because I am getting mixed information. Some are stating that only Bangkok will be closed on 26th and rest of the country will be OK. Others are saying that everything will be closed from 26 to 29. Please provide some guidance.

Thanks!

McFuck.

Kerrstar

09-15-17, 12:22

I am planning to visit Pattaya from 27th October to 31st October 2017. I heard that there is a royal funeral from 26 to 29 October; Would all establishments will be closed? Should I change my travel plans? I am really confused because I am getting mixed information. Some are stating that only Bangkok will be closed on 26th and rest of the country will be OK. Others are saying that everything will be closed from 26 to 29. Please provide some guidance.
I don't think anyone knows. This is new territory for all concerned, including Thais. I suppose it depends where you are visiting from and whether going to Pattaya is your main reason for travelling. I personally wouldn't go there but that's just me.

Blanquiceleste

09-15-17, 12:30

Mumbai Guy

09-15-17, 12:38

Hi all,

I am planning to visit Pattaya from 27th October to 31st October 2017. I heard that there is a royal funeral from 26 to 29 October; Would all establishments will be closed? Should I change my travel plans? I am really confused because I am getting mixed information. Some are stating that only Bangkok will be closed on 26th and rest of the country will be OK. Others are saying that everything will be closed from 26 to 29. Please provide some guidance.

Thanks!

McFuck.The bars and Gogos may be closed on those days. Nobody knows exactly what will be the scene. But I am sure there will be plenty of FLs available on Beach road. You can even find some hot ones on Thaifriendly or Wechat.

Pipe Layer99

09-15-17, 13:33

If there is another place that has the type of girls he is looking for, then yes, by all means, go someplace else. Don't spend just to be spending! And I have followed advice similar to yours about passing on an alleged overpriced girl. Girl wanted 5000 (BF and her fee) and I, using my "common sense", wouldn't budge above 3500 total. She would not budge either. You would be proud. I left and, yea, saved me $50 by doing so! I showed her! Yep, I passed up a hot, beautiful girl that was making me drool, real model material, a potential porn star! I went elsewhere for cheaper. But there was nothing else like her for the price. But, I came home with an extra $50 in my pocket. But no super hot, beautiful girl! I let my "common sense" rule. And I regret it to this day. I was actually a fool to pass her by.
Why do we go to Pattaya? To have sex with beautiful woman for cheap. We spend a fair amount of money to travel there and to stay there for that opportunity. On a vacation to the other side of the world, $50 is nothing. Passing up on the opportunity to fulfill the goal of your trip, having sex with beautiful women
That said, I understand your view point. But you need to accept the alternate view of the occasional Pattaya traveler. Certainly, don't overpay! ...
But if a man finds that girl that makes his jaw drop to the floor, he should not let an added $50 or even $100 stop him.I understand your view point. I don't think you were not a fool at all in passing on that girl. You went with your gut instinct. That's the overriding factor. We must trust our gut feelings.

Some good points stated above. Thumbs up for acknowledgement. You seem have your head above water and it appears that you know what you like.
I will offer 2 words of caution. Just take my comments for what they are worth. No need to dissect them.
No need to regret passing up an over-priced girl. Why?
Two reasons. #1, like you said, we come here for sex with beautiful women for cheap prices. 5000 baht is a lot of money to THEM (not for us). Just think about it. That's 33% of a month's pay for them. Something to think about from a different perspective.
Plenty of other pretty girls who can fit the bill. Maybe not that One girl, who got away, but still good looking, and GFE. Easy to find here. So don't regret it at all. Keep the train moving for the next one.
#2 and equally important. That sexy girl who got away, she may very well have been lackluster in bed. When that happens to you for the first time (and it has happened to many of us), you begin to think a little differently about the one who got away. And you also rethink about that $50 bucks. It all of a sudden becomes a waste of money.
Time will teach the valuable lessons. Take it for what it's worth.

I need to have chemistry with the honey. No matter how pretty she is, or thinks she is. There is no correlation between her beauty and her performance in bed.
So don't over-think it, and never allow her to think that she is head and shoulders above the rest. That's a recipe for disaster. The best performers I have had, were not the 'MOST' beautiful. They were pretty IMO, and I have no regrets on passing up the stunner.

The 2 times I took the best looking girl (in 6 years) was NOT worth it. Premium price and mediocre performance (ended up paying those two 1500 to leave, plus the the 1000 baht bar fine).
That must have been 4 years ago. Now I just pass on those types of girls. No regrets. I go with my gut.

IllusionHeart

09-15-17, 17:38

If there is another place that has the type of girls he is looking for, then yes, by all means, go someplace else.

But if a man finds that girl that makes his jaw drop to the floor, he should not let an added $50 or even $100 stop him.Good logic and aptly described, even I wouldn't think twice before paying an additional $50 if I really like the girl. There is one aspect however I will add here which I always consider that is the place where you are engaging with the girl. This might not be important to you or might not matter.

A gogo girl asking for 5 K baht LT is no surprise nowadays and if I am in sensations or skyfall, etc I would end up paying that extra money to have that experience because maybe it is the price these girls now charge or get paid on a regular basis. The price is in no way an assurance for performance of the girl which will depend on other factors starting with your chemistry, etc.

However if a girl asks me the same money if I am at Simon complex, Insomnia or another bar elsewhere then I would rather take that as a disinterest from the girl. They do quote high prices many a times if they don't want to go with you. This in no way affects their ability to extract LDs from you.

So not paying the high prices and walking away is also sometimes sensible depending on which entertainment venue you are at.

FL Hawk

09-15-17, 21:25

1. IllusionHeart and PipeLayer both make reasonable comments. Little to disagree with. I will just comment that the more experience you gain, the better you are at making decisions. With each trip I make, I spend more time on Soi 6, as that is where I am getting the best service. I am not even sure if I took a gogo girl from WS last time as the prices were indeed high. But what makes sense for a Pattaya veteran who knows he will return would not make sense for one who is a rookie and who may never get to return. But good comments by all.

2. To McFuck, I will be there during the cremation of the King on or about Oct 13. I expect the bars to be closed for that weekend, but expect the soapies, places like Kinneree (spelling) and DD, etc to be open. I also expect there will be BR freelancers out. And of course the apps will have girls available. Most all have family back home that need money, and while they will again morn His Majesty's passing, they have to eat and pay bills. I have already made arrangements with a gogo girl I have seen several times before to spend some time with, as well as meeting a normal working girl (I think) on Thai Cupid who works near WS and is in need of a BF as well as money, so I do not expect to have any shortage of female companionship. But as said, no one yet really knows what will happen for these two events. If you can delay and want to be safe, then do so. I can't delay, but I am not too worried about not getting laid each day once or twice.

Mr Enternational

09-16-17, 02:44

With each trip I make, I spend more time on Soi 6, as that is where I am getting the best service. I am not even sure if I took a gogo girl from WS last time as the prices were indeed high. I hope you are spending more time with your girl in Bangkok. She is nice!

Pipe Layer99

09-16-17, 14:52

FYI. Tax hike set for tomorrow. Anyone living here and for those that will be here for another few weeks might want to consider going out to get your favorite drinks for your condo or guest house before midnight. I just went to my go-to place for Whiskey and wine, and they told me about the rate increase effective tomorrow. Tax rate will be 430 baht per litre. It's not going to break the bank, but for guys here for long terms, you can save some money.

https://news.lovepattayathailand.com/national/new-tax-rates-cigarettes-alcohol-not-good/

FL Hawk

09-16-17, 22:00

I hope you are spending more time with your girl in Bangkok. She is nice!Haha, yes, as a matter of fact, I will. She is a sweetie and maybe THIS time we can solve her virginity problem!

PedroEscobar

09-17-17, 01:49

Aloha all,

What a great end to my first mongering trip ever.

SNIP

Totally fucking worth it!

I will be back.Really enjoyed reading your reports, full respect for posting! Reminded me of my first visit back in 2000, and made me even eager to get back there. Which I am glad to say I will get back the at Christmas! Some of your comments made me laugh out loud, especially the 14 years of marriage one & have I mentioned I love this place!

Thanks for the complement. I am afraid I am not the one to fulfill your sexual fantasies with details of my exploits in bed.

As for Songkran, I have been visiting during this time of the year for a while now. My FR from Apr 2017 is here for reference.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=2023585#post2023585Another report that I immensely enjoyed, these make me want to run back there now. Full respect for posting!

Going to need an excuse to get out while there (with my lads passing through) so hopefully be able to meet a few people while in town.

Pedro.

JohnyJo

09-19-17, 01:50

I used the agency. You can read my report on it from a while back. They are trustworthy. I didn't pay anything in advance. Contact the person in charge through emails, because I don't think they take anything in advance.Thanks for the reply, it was very helpful.

I contacted this agency, unfortunately they changed the rules and I have to unconditionally pay advance, it is caused by dishonest guests.

I decided to go there for a week in December.

Lavaflix

09-19-17, 10:45

I literally dream about my time in Pattaya. At this point I'm looking for a job in Thailand. There are a few in my field but it's going to be a few years before I'm qualified for the positions.

My brain is infected with only one cure. More LBFMs, one after each meal.

I've started Thai lessons over skype with a TF FL I hooked up with while there. She likes to end each lesson with masterbation and a toy show. LOL. Sending her a vibrator I can control from my phone. Fuck I'm a degenerate!

Really enjoyed reading your reports, full respect for posting! Reminded me of my first visit back in 2000, and made me even eager to get back there. Which I am glad to say I will get back the at Christmas! Some of your comments made me laugh out loud, especially the 14 years of marriage one & have I mentioned I love this place!

Crocodilexp

09-20-17, 07:10

I contacted this agency, unfortunately they changed the rules and I have to unconditionally pay advance, it is caused by dishonest guests.

Dishonest? More like guests who find out how much of an insane markup the agency takes without providing any extra value, in fact, limiting their choice. Pattaya is easy. You don't need an agency, just go and enjoy.

Rob Jones

09-20-17, 08:07

Thanks for the reply, it was very helpful.

I contacted this agency, unfortunately they changed the rules and I have to unconditionally pay advance, it is caused by dishonest guests.

I decided to go there for a week in December.I would not pay any agency anything in advance. I think more like dishonest company. I have travelled thru Asia and I have always booked by myself and found girls either in bars or on the net. Do you have a friend you can go with? Maybe a fellow board member might accompany you? If you go in early February I will hang out with you.

Rob.

MRahul84

09-20-17, 09:37

Bros,

Planning to visit Pattaya.

What is going rate of St and LT.

Freelance and bars.

Waiting for reply.

Banana Boi

09-20-17, 10:20

What is going rate of St and LT.
ST - 500 to 3000. I'm guessing some of the Africans on beach road will go for less than 500 if you push.

LT - 1500 to 5000.

90 minutes or less at a soapie 2000 to 7000.

barfine - 0 to 2000.

RominRomeo

09-20-17, 10:52

Hi guys,

This is about three weeks old. Got in touch with babe goes by name Amazingapple on TF. Called her over for ST to hotel room (was staying at LK Empress, Soi 12).

Arrived bang on time, looked just like her pics. Good figure, talkative. No fuss girl. Did BBBJ, WOT and Doggy. As I was tired from my incoming flight, could only manage one pop. She had asked for 1500ST but took only 1000. When I said lets go for a stroll, happily went with me to WS and had drinks while I ogled at the bargirls at Windmill GoGo.

Girl has excellent attitude. In fact met her again in Go Go bar almost like a GF, while I fondled tittys and ate pussy happily!! Ha Ha.

Man I love Pattaya!

By the way, Windmill GoGo is absolutely crazy- full nudity and no-holds barred girls. Guys, seriously do not miss.

Chao.

Mr Enternational

09-20-17, 16:50

ST - 500 to 3000. I'm guessing some of the Africans on beach road will go for less than 500 if you push.Shit. I heard they go for more than the Thai chicks.

Rob Jones

09-21-17, 03:49

PedroT97

09-21-17, 10:57

Nixonbd

09-21-17, 10:59

Hi all,

I have been a reader for some time preparing for my upcoming trip to Pattaya and I have just completed a search of the forums regarding Viagra / Cialis. I want to get some but I'm hesitant to use my family doctor here for a prescription and also I will be using them different to how he would probably prescribe them e. G. I want them to fuck several women on a daily basis and not get soft after 3 days as in past experiences and not for regular marital sex 2 to 3 times a week that doesn't require any stamina assistance.

So can I get the following advice please.

1/ The most reliable place to buy them in Pattaya.

2/ What dosage is best for a new user for performance enhancing and not for erectile dysfunction.

3/ Is it best to break the tabs up and take over the course of the day or one a day.

4/ Any other advice on the matter.

Thanks.

Rob.Long time Cialis user, switched over to generic Viagra for my trip to Pattaya last month. Simply put, the Cialis just wasn't working like it had over the six years I used it. The generic Viagra worked well, using the 50 MG tabs. They do caution against breaking the tap up as it may impact the chemical properties. It also recommends that you take the Viagra 20-30 minutes prior to sexual activity for max performance. It worked for me. I would not recommend buying any medication, even nicely packaged, off the street in Thailand. You may want to check with a pharmacy. I have used Topills for my supply, no prescription needed.

CzarNicholas

09-21-17, 17:56

ST - 500 to 3000. I'm guessing some of the Africans on beach road will go for less than 500 if you push.

LT - 1500 to 5000.

90 minutes or less at a soapie 2000 to 7000.

barfine - 0 to 2000.Where do you think the best optic quality is, I understand the heat index was 116 f today, that's crazy hot.

Also would you say the quality is much better in bkk than Pattaya right now, say in Nana Plaza.

Thanks!

Thinking about next week or so.

Mr Enternational

09-21-17, 20:05

My brother was stopped by police today. The violation was not having an international drivers license. (I told him he should have told the cop he was military and did not need one.) He said the guy would take his license and he could go to the station to pay the fine, or he could pay 500 baht on the spot. (I told him the fine was probably less than that at the station.) He said the cop told him to come inside the box so nobody could see him giving the money. Afterwards the cop wrote a 7 on his right hand so if someone else stopped him they would know he already paid. Damn Thailand. LOL.

JohnyJo

09-21-17, 20:38

I would not pay any agency anything in advance. I think more like dishonest company. I have travelled thru Asia and I have always booked by myself and found girls either in bars or on the net. Do you have a friend you can go with? Maybe a fellow board member might accompany you? If you go in early February I will hang out with you.

Rob.Thanks, for your interest and suggestions, unfortunately I only have moments in December.

I think the offer for a 24 hour company is reasonable without any extra fees such as fine bar or for bar girls for 24 hours price from 150 € ! http://www.thai-sexy-holiday.com/prices/.

You can also change every 3 days or give the girl pause for a few hours, sounds reasonable.

Rob Jones

09-21-17, 23:29

Thanks, for your interest and suggestions, unfortunately I only have moments in December.

I think the offer for a 24 hour company is reasonable without any extra fees such as fine bar or for bar girls for 24 hours price from 150 ! http://www.thai-sexy-holiday.com/prices/.

You can also change every 3 days or give the girl pause for a few hours, sounds reasonable.I hope it works for you mate. Looking forward to reading your reports and to get some feedback from the whole adventure. As I am travelling with a friend the 24 hour thing isn't a must for me and I have 24 hour surveillance on me at the moment (wife) so a bit of me time will be appreciated. My biggest concern is that I won't have much say in the girl and I still get a kick out of the chase.

Good luck.

Rob.

Rob Jones

09-21-17, 23:36

Long time Cialis user, switched over to generic Viagra for my trip to Pattaya last month. Simply put, the Cialis just wasn't working like it had over the six years I used it. The generic Viagra worked well, using the 50 MG tabs. They do caution against breaking the tap up as it may impact the chemical properties. It also recommends that you take the Viagra 20-30 minutes prior to sexual activity for max performance. It worked for me. I would not recommend buying any medication, even nicely packaged, off the street in Thailand. You may want to check with a pharmacy. I have used Topills for my supply, no prescription needed.Thanks for the reply. I will take note of the brands. Being a normal male 182 cms and 100 kilo one tab should keep me "up" when needed for the day? In Bali I have been offered Viagra on the streets before and common sense tells me to avoid it like the plague.

Thanks mate.

Rob Jones

09-21-17, 23:41

Rob,

I take it you're from the UK. There is no need to refer to you GP. Lloyds Pharmacy, Superdrug et al provide online alternatives and you get the real deal with the hologram on the box etc. There's no need to spllit tablets they do 2. 5 MG and 5 MG 'one a day' versions or the full fat 10 MG and 20 MG. You don't need to have them delivered to your home as you can just nominate a local branch where you can collect even same day if you order early enough. In Thailand they're everywhere but you run the risk of getting poorly made fakes unless you can get a reliable, well-recommended pharmacist. Pedro.Hi Pedro,

I'm from Australia. Here we still need prescriptions! I don't want to buy online due to quality. I will try your suggestions online but they may not send to Australia due to the prescription needed. Can you recommend a pharmacy in Pattaya that will sell quality tabs?

Thanks Rob.

Midwest1

09-22-17, 08:57

The good; Had a nice time at Ruby's on Soi 6. Had few drinks with a dressed slim lady (all others were wearing shorts), then took her upstairs- 300 BF, and 1000 for her. Even after the session, she was hanging around and massaging and caring me well. Very nice experience.

And The bad: I knew about the racism at some places in Thailand, so normally try to avoid Go Gos in walking street. But this time my friend insisted on visiting one there, and we end up at the gate of Baccara. They stopped us because of our South Asian look (though we are from different country). We went to one of the police booth, and at first a Belgian policeman explained to us his helplessness, then he directed to us a local cop. After listening to us, he came with us to the club, and had a conversation with them. But he came back with the same helplessness look saying don't allow Indians and Arabs inside. I guess some guys are still living in 50's. We thanked him for at least coming with us and showing some support. I still believe it has to be illegal in this country. Anyway I wrote to Thailand Tourism Authority, and exploring other avenues where I can raise this.

PurpleHead10

09-22-17, 13:17

Writing from a new ID due to some unavoidable circumstances. I have been a member of this forum for almost 8 years. Also, my and'th time to Thailand.

Warning. Long and detailed post!

Day 1.

Wheels down at Suvarnabhumi at 6:00 am. Was relative quiet at immigration. Took about an hour to get out. Went up 2 levels to have a heavenly and leisurely Thai breakfast of pad kap Rao with some coffee and Mango. Yeah, got the Thai vibe going. Flirted with the waitresses. Wen down to the lowest level, bought my ticket to Pattaya (still 108 baht). I prefer the bus as I think it's safer. Also it takes anywhere between 90-120 minutes, which means you reach your hotel around 12 (if you take the 10 am bus) so you almost always get a room right away and don't have to wait. It was pouring cats and dogs, saw more than a couple of accidents (aquaplaning mostly) and was glad I took the bus. Reached the hotel exactly at 12. First time staying at the Blue Sky, nice little budget hotel on soi 5. Checked in and had a nice sleep for 4 hours to kill the jet lag. Woke up at around 7. Went to corner bar at soi 8. Checked out a few bar girls. Bought a couple of them a drink. None seemed really my type. Played some pool, got my ass handed to me by a 20 year old bar girl (lost 100 baht). Was having a consolation beer (bought by the bar girl) and licking my wounds (and pride) when I decided to ping all the contacts I had made on TF and Line before coming to Thailand. There was one particular cutie (Nickname rabbit) whom I was very interested in. 23 years old, super cute, super tight body, be cups (natural), 164 height. Pinged her, her reply. I'm in isaan. Damn. But she could refer a friend. I said OK, but I told her she has to kinda be like you. She sent me a pic. 21 year old, spinner body, the cups (164 cm, waist length hair. Exactly my type. I asked rabbit, are you sure her fun bags real. She said yeah. I asked her to tell her to come to walking street and call me. I headed out to walking street to check the vibe. Went to 808, got my dancing game on. Flirted with a couple of cuties. They were from Bkk, here to have some fun. And they wanted 4000 baht for both of them for ST. Well I'm a one woman man (at least for the night, so I passed). Went on to Lucifer, texted the girl who was coming to meet me (min) that I'm heading to lucifer so she can come there and call me. It was just before midnight, and Lucifer was packed to the rafters. No chance of a table, I would be lucky if I got some standing space. Got a text from Min that she's waiting outside, and whether I could come outside to pick her. I go outside, didn't see her around. So I pinged her. Then she send me a pic of where she is, outside 808! I told her, I messaged you lucifer, anyway, that's Pattaya FL 101, I should have known. Finally I see her. She is a total knockout. Not your typical bar girl or even go go girl. She's tall, almost as much as me in heels, has poise, huge tits (still can't believe they are natural) and a slender waist which made me believe her stated 50 kg. And dressed in an absolutely smashing little black cocktail dress. So we walk in arm in arm into lucifer and there were at least 50 pairs of eyes on her. She ordered a Malibu (another classy move in my book), spoke almost flawless English and gave me the usual demographics. We danced a little and boy was I hard and horny. I told her, let's get out of here. She was game. We took a motorbike taxi (her suggestion) and he took 200 baht till soi 5 (we could have taken a taxi for the same amount). Anyway, back in the room, she goes straight to the shower and asks me if I want to join, I prefer shower separately, so she finished, then I finished. She was in bed, naked, I threw back the covers, I wanted to see her body. Perfect honey colored, 21 year old goddess, with class, may I add. She made the first move. Nice BBBJ, I was already hard, but wanted to see her skills. At the same time was caressing her the cups, which were awesome and real. But she had real small nipples which was a bummer. I stopped her and went down to down on her. Got a close look at her abdomen, no baby damage, flawless. Just fingered her to see how wet she was, before I tongued her, well, she was flowing. Gave her the tongue action for a few minutes, and boy, was she a moaner. Finally went in, tight little pussy. Now comes the fun part, I thought I was so horny, I would come soon. Turns out, I didn't factor the alcohol in. So off we went like rabbits, for the next couple of hours, but no cigar, but two for her (stopped me twice and screamed the fuck out of her). After the first hour she turned into a special forces soldier with the sole mission of making me cum. After the second hour, I told her, just to lick my balls, while I help myself, no cigar. Finally, I asked her to DFK me (my weakness) while I helped myself, still no cigar after 30 min. Both of us were spent. I told her let's call it a night and maybe I'll call her again tomorrow. Gave her 1.5 k plus taxi fare for 2.5 hours in the room. She was happy, I was happy, but not quite, but not her fault, she got full marks for trying. Slept like a log. Next day, next post. Apologies for the long post, I like to keep it detailed!

Crazy4Thai

09-22-17, 14:40

Hi Pedro,

I'm from Australia. Here we still need prescriptions! I don't want to buy online due to quality. I will try your suggestions online but they may not send to Australia due to the prescription needed. Can you recommend a pharmacy in Pattaya that will sell quality tabs?

Thanks Rob.I use a little shop on Soi 6. As you are heading down the soi towards Beach Road it is on your left and not very far from Beach Road. I think the name is Pharmacy Seriously, good selection and fair prices. Stocks a full range of generic versions and they work well for me.

MaddyJ88

09-22-17, 20:31

Bros,

Planning to visit Pattaya.

What is going rate of St and LT.

Freelance and bars.

Waiting for reply.Hey Rahul,

If am not mistaken you are from Delhi Forum and have been very helpful to all. Pm me your queries for Pattaya. Will be happy to help. Have done 2 trips recently.

FL Hawk

09-22-17, 20:46

Hi all,

I have been a reader for some time preparing for my upcoming trip to Pattaya and I have just completed a search of the forums regarding Viagra / Cialis. I want to get some but I'm hesitant to use my family doctor here for a prescription and also I will be using them different to how he would probably prescribe them e. G. I want them to fuck several women on a daily basis and not get soft after 3 days as in past experiences and not for regular marital sex 2 to 3 times a week that doesn't require any stamina assistance.

So can I get the following advice please.

1/ The most reliable place to buy them in Pattaya.

2/ What dosage is best for a new user for performance enhancing and not for erectile dysfunction.

3/ Is it best to break the tabs up and take over the course of the day or one a day.

4/ Any other advice on the matter.

Thanks.

Rob.I like the generic Cialis that most every pharmacy has in Pattaya. (Sorry, but the local name escapes me at the moment.) I have gotten it from the pharmacy that is just south of Soi 6/1 in a little plaza with a restaurant and a massage place. I have also gotten it at a pharmacy that is kind of in the middle of either Soi 7 or 8 (8 I think), as well as one on either 13/1 or 13/2. In other words, most all the pharmacies should have it. Choose one that is air conditioned and sells a number of legit drugs and you should be fine. I would not buy off the street.

I typically take a whole tablet on the first day, then after that 1/2 tablet a day. I don't really need it, but taking it helps me get an erection faster and helps to keep it strong. Without it (I am an older dude), I will lose hardness if not sufficiently stimulated. I have had a full tablet continue to work for 48 hours, but the full dose has some side effects. Taking a smaller dose helps reduce those.

Lefeu

09-23-17, 03:37

...We went to one of the police booth, and at first a Belgian policeman explained to us his helplessness, then he directed to us a local cop. After listening to us, he came with us to the club, and had a conversation with them. But he came back with the same helplessness look saying don't allow Indians and Arabs inside. I guess some guys are still living in 50's. We thanked him for at least coming with us and showing some support. I still believe it has to be illegal in this country. Anyway I wrote to Thailand Tourism Authority, and exploring other avenues where I can raise this.I am surprised, and impressed, that you took the time to complain to the local authorities. Most people don't bother complaining because nothing comes out of it, as you discovered. But I am glad you took the time to complain, and wish more people would do that. Maybe places like Baccara would then notice the loss of customers.

Banana Boi

09-23-17, 04:57

Viagara / Cialis and condom talky. Guys, can we please try discussing this monthly topic in the "Thailand Lounge and Chat area" thread and leave this thread to actual reports. Really becomes boring reading the same shit over and over again.

Banana Boi

09-23-17, 05:03

A rare soapie for me yesterday. I think it's been about 18 months since the last one. First stop Honey 2. Some of the VIP girls looked decent but I was looking for something bustier. Unfortunately, the cheaper bustier ones were older, albeit cheaper. Decided to hop across the street to Sabai Room. Honey 2 had the better lineup but Sabai had one girl who was too cute to pass up. Guess is about 22. Was fairly busty but turned out to be fakes. One of the reason I hate soapies is I can't grope the girls beforehand to feel the tits. If I had that opportunity with this girl I would have passed. Don't mind fakes if done properly but these were way too hard. Once the session began I remembered why I avoid soapies. Just way too mechanical for me. No passion and just a routine for these girls. My girl was friendly though so full marks there. She also made a concerted effort to try to get me to finish. Prices 2000 and 2400. Irrelevant price difference when selecting a girl. My girl was 2400. I'll still walk into soapies to check them out but the next girl is going to have to be top tier gogo quality for me to bite.

And The bad: I knew about the racism at some places in Thailand, so normally try to avoid Go Gos in walking street. But this time my friend insisted on visiting one there, and we end up at the gate of Baccara. They stopped us because of our South Asian look (though we are from different country). We went to one of the police booth, Agree. Good for you for doing this. Nothing will ever come of it but never looks good when cops are standing in front of a club. FYI I went to around 20 other gogo bars with my Indian friends and no issues getting into any of them. Just try another place. Baccara doesn't care. Japanese and Korean pack this club every night.

Banana Boi

09-23-17, 05:24

Visited the new Yes! Gogo last night. I laughed when I walked inside since I knew a bunch of girls from various clubs, including cute mamasan(?) who used to work as a gogo girl. Girls certainly enjoy checking out new places. I think there were 10 girls from Ginza there last night. 4 groups of 15 to 20. 2 groups topless. Overall the girls were definitely ok. 3 or 4 nice ones but I already knew them from other clubs. Lady drinks a whopping 200 baht. My girls are well trained to not drink quickly so didn't hurt my pocket book much. DFK, groping, lap dances standard there, at least for me. Definitely worth visiting at least for now while new girls are trying the place out. Nice club.

Other clubs last night.

Windmill. My 2nd visit this week. Talent is decent for Windmill standards. Bad luck for me last night because I must have chosen the 3 most useless mileage girls in the bar. I didn't push the limits though. Only one did DFK, HJ, etc.

Pheromones. One very nice girl here. Definitely top tier. The rest only so-so. No uglies so that helps. 200 baht lady drinks keep me from being a regular here. Girls also have a bad habit of drinking drinks too quickly in this bar. Likely instructed by management to do so.

Tantra. Walked in and out only because the tiny club had no seats. What I did see was more or less an orgy on the stage with all girls doing lez play on each other. Not my thing but if you like lez shows maybe give Tantra a shot.

Super Girl - 3rd visit this week. I can; t even explain why. I haven't connected with anyone here recently yet I keep coming back. Lots of girls. Mileage seems available from most girls.

Living Dolls. First visit in more than 1 year. Very few customers. Seemed more like a ghetto LK Metro club. Some girls ok, Will revisit again. Bought a lady drink for a girl too quickly. She turned out to not speak English well and was a dud. Decided to move on instead of buying a drink for another girl.

Beach Club. I saw a cute girl eating the other night and I asked her where she worked. She said Beach Club. Went looking for her but she wasn't there. I don't really go to Beach Club but I am definitely going to start going there. Many of the young cute variety. Not hot but just friendly and cutesy. Sometimes I need a change of pace so I will go to places like Beach Club, Ginza, Nui 2, etc. Girls friendly here. I regret not staying longer but wanted to go back to Yes!

Cusland

09-23-17, 05:40

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Smily59

09-23-17, 08:54

And The bad: I knew about the racism at some places in Thailand, so normally try to avoid Go Gos in walking street. But this time my friend insisted on visiting one there, and we end up at the gate of Baccara. They stopped us because of our South Asian look (though we are from different country). We went to one of the police booth, and at first a Belgian policeman explained to us his helplessness, then he directed to us a local cop. After listening to us, he came with us to the club, and had a conversation with them. But he came back with the same helplessness look saying don't allow Indians and Arabs inside. I guess some guys are still living in 50's. We thanked him for at least coming with us and showing some support. I still believe it has to be illegal in this country. Anyway I wrote to Thailand Tourism Authority, and exploring other avenues where I can raise this.Midwest, I understand your feelings got hurt, but this was a complete waste of time and I would not recommend other members to copy your way. At least in LOS. I think you should better consider where you are staying before you act.

First, if you read the thread, Baccara is reported for treating some nationals like this and Japanese and Koreans are the preferred customers, so they simply will not care.

Second, LOS culture is nonconfrontational, so better when in Rome.

Third, complaining to Thailand Tourism Authority. A sextourist being denied entry in a Gogo? Please!

I think it would help to understand the culture of the country you are staying, what about following the may pen rhai approach next time and moving on to the next Gogo??

Sunlover2

09-23-17, 09:57

FunExplorer

09-23-17, 11:57

FunExplorer

09-23-17, 12:03

Bros,

Planning to visit Pattaya.

What is going rate of St and LT.

Freelance and bars.

Waiting for reply.ST in GoGo bars is usually TBH 2000 plus TBH 1000 as bar fine and LT is usually TBH 4000 plus TBH 1000, unless the girl is a stunner.

Freelance would start from TBH 500 upwards, but you would get reasonably good ones at TBH 800 to 1000. At least that is my experience.

Beer bars would start from TBH 800 upwards and TBH 300 for bar fine.

MrManGuy

09-24-17, 11:46

Baccara seems to be Japanese and Korean only club. I don't tip at Japanese restaurants anymore. Fuckem.

Mr Enternational

09-24-17, 14:27

Baccara seems to be Japanese and Korean only club. I don't tip at Japanese restaurants anymore. Fuckem.Gotta get in touch with culture my man. Tipping in Japan is an insult. It is saying you think they do not earn enough money so they need your handouts. In essence, whereas you have been insulting them all the while, you are protesting by no longer pissing them off.

Ggekko2009

09-24-17, 15:41

I am currently sitting in Bacarra as I type up this report. Being the last night here at Pattaya, I wanted to check out this so called racist club, and want to find out what the hype is all about.

There are two floors in this club, with the center stage separated by a glass ceiling between them. If you look up the glass ceiling, you can see the girls dancing without their underwear. It is also interesting to see how all these girls wore their uniforms, wigs and make up to look like anime girls. This club is definitely designed to attract the fantasies of Japanese and Korean clienteles.

I would have to say the quality of the girls are far better than most girls that I had seen by here in Pattaya, having been gogo bar hopping the last three days. I also tried the ping pong balls experience. It was hilarious how as soon as I purchased the basket, the girls on center stage immediately screamed at you and wanted me to throw these balls in their directions.

Member #4591

09-24-17, 18:16

NRock

09-24-17, 18:55

Ggekko2009

09-24-17, 19:21

Mr Enternational

09-24-17, 21:51

So I brought back a girl from Baccarat for long time since she looked sweet and I thought we might have a good time. After drinking and dancing for a little while at the Lucifer bar, or at least that is what I think the name of the bar is, we headed back to the hotel. This is my experience so far. The girl was a total disaster, and her act of trying to be PSE totally turned me. Off. I felt like being rushed and totally acted tfke. Twenty minutes in the room, I told her to, for the lack of a better word, to fuck off.LOL. And some would have you believe you get what you pay for, if something goes wrong you can go crawling back to the mamasan because you bought her drinks, etc. I stick with FL and disco chicks because to me pussy is just not worth shelling out 5000 or so baht at a gogo bar. I can get 5 LT FL for that price. And if something goes wrong (only 1 time out of hundreds that it did and of course I did not pay the girl) then 1000 baht is no big deal. But you would have never known had you not experienced it for yourself. Now you do not have to worry about regrets left over from not paying the extra $X for the girl you really wanted.

FL Hawk

09-24-17, 22:38

Now you do not have to worry about regrets left over from not paying the extra $X for the girl you really wanted.Haha! Good one my friend!

UltraHappy

09-25-17, 00:17

And all this time, I thought Pattaya was a small backwards village for, among other things, allowing establishments to blatantly engage in racist door policies.

Who would have known that Pattaya was merely a trendsetter for the future? Now it seems that a hotel in the UK is following Pattaya's lead and banning certain male ethnicities from its clientel (well, at least those males who work for a certain airline anyways):

http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/09/24/hotel-refuses-to-rent-rooms-to-pakistan-international-airlines-crew.html

World Jockey

09-25-17, 01:03

LOL. And some would have you believe you get what you pay for, if something goes wrong you can go crawling back to the mamasan because you bought her drinks, etc. I stick with FL and disco chicks because to me pussy is just not worth shelling out 5000 or so baht at a gogo bar. I can get 5 LT FL for that price. And if something goes wrong (only 1 time out of hundreds that it did and of course I did not pay the girl) then 1000 baht is no big deal. But you would have never known had you not experienced it for yourself. Now you do not have to worry about regrets left over from not paying the extra $X for the girl you really wanted.Indeed, Beach road is my best friend. The only time I will take a girl that works in a gogo bar is if it's after hours and I happen to catch her on the way home. I will only do FL's.

And The bad: I knew about the racism at some places in Thailand, so normally try to avoid Go Gos in walking street. But this time my friend insisted on visiting one there, and we end up at the gate of Baccara. They stopped us because of our South Asian look (though we are from different country). We went to one of the police booth, and at first a Belgian policeman explained to us his helplessness, then he directed to us a local cop. After listening to us, he came with us to the club, and had a conversation with them. But he came back with the same helplessness look saying don't allow Indians and Arabs inside. I guess some guys are still living in 50's. We thanked him for at least coming with us and showing some support. I still believe it has to be illegal in this country. Anyway I wrote to Thailand Tourism Authority, and exploring other avenues where I can raise this.I hear women making racist comments about Indian and Arab men as well. I also saw this happen in Thailand twice at establishments to Indian looking fellas. Once I asked a proprietor what the deal was; why the discrimination? I am by no means co signing his rationale but this is what he said in tarzan English "you come from america. Pay big money for ticket and long vacation. You no cheap. Indian pay little money come here. Cheap short flight. No want to pay for nothing."

Banana Boi

09-25-17, 01:19

Twenty minutes in the room, I told her to, for the lack of a better word, to fuck off. How much did you end up paying her? what was your negotiated rate before the date?

Member #4591

09-25-17, 03:24

Oct 13 Friday Anniversary of the Death of King Bhumibol National holiday.

Oct 23 Monday Chulalongkorn Day National holiday.

Oct 26 Thursday Cremation of King Bhumibol National holiday.

Expect closures on these days. Do not listen to the people who say things will be shut down for 10 days. It was not even that long when he passed away. When the king passed away, closures were only a few days and when the bars reopened they were asked to shut down early and to keep the noise levels down only.ENTERTAINMENT:

General translation of official statement from Thai Government News Website.

Thai government does not prohibit entertaining activities or events during The Royal cremation ceremonies in October except for the following:

The Prime Minister only mentioned that on 26th October – the day of the actual cremation that should consider the appropriateness; I. E. Live music in public area should be restrained.

During 21st – 25th October the entertainment activities should be scaled down.

Other activities / events such as weddings or alcohol serving should be managed in private venue within hotels. (more details on this later).

Mr Enternational

09-25-17, 03:29

I just arrived from Manila. I went downstairs to see what was up with the bus for 120 baht. It was 8:57 and the 9 am was full. Next bus at 10 am. I went back up to the 4th floor to get a taxi. Before I could walk outside a private car that was driving by was flagging me over. He said where are you going? I said Pattaya. He said 1500 baht. I said no way, 900. He said okay. I jumped in and he told me he would take me to the lot and get me into another car. I have done this 1000 times and told him that I knew. Got to the lot and changed to a Toyota Minivan. I asked the new driver how much of the 900 baht goes to the guy that dropped me off. He said 200 baht. I should arrive in Pattaya in no more than 1 hour 15 minutes.

Banana Boi

09-25-17, 21:36

Touch is opening another gogo bar in LK Metro, directly across the alley. Supposed to open on September 30 but looks far from being complete. The dancer poles are in though.

LittleBigMan

09-26-17, 01:26

Touch is opening another gogo bar in LK Metro, directly across the alley. Supposed to open on September 30 but looks far from being complete. The dancer poles are in though.I have a feeling it isn't really a true GoGo, but more like Fever, smaller Climax, or the what Champagne did, more of a bar with table dancing? LK patrons seem more interested in drinking outside than inside?

Ggekko2009

09-26-17, 09:32

Flew in from Germany to Bangkok on Thai Airways in their new A350 Airbus. I was pleasantly surprised by how spacious their economy seat was, easily an equivalent to any economy plus on many airlines. Their services were great too.

This was my first trip to Thailand which I included this time as part of my global iteniary. I had already been touring the FKK the last week. Anyway, I just want to share my experiences of Pattaya from a newbie POV.

Day 1:

Landed at BKK around noon, and took a taxi to Pattaya, and it costed 1600 B for the trip. You might be able to get there more cheaply if you know your way around the system. But to me I value my time and convenience more than the savings of a few bucks.

Checked into the hotel, freshened up and grabbed some lunch. My first trip was to the Sabai Room and I wanted to check out the Thai Soapie experience for myself.

Inside the building you would see the ladies grouped based on the color of their badge numbers. The different color represents different price tier. Could it be based on their popularity and experience?

Thai girls were mostly small and petite with small natural breasts. I mentioned natural because I later found out that those with a bigger set are more often than not implants. Some of them were done so well that I would often ask if they were actually implants. They would always say yes and let me feel them in the GG bars. These implants were done through injections via their armpits, which is better since it does not leave behind unsightly scars. Here is how I would describe them, it feels like squeezing into a memory foam. It may look more natural, but you can still feel the difference.

I picked a girl from the lineup just based on her look and smile, and that was probably my newbie mistake numero Uno. The girl's body frame was petite and her push up bra made her boobs appear bigger. However, soapie involves body to body contact, and I think the experience would have been more enjoyable if the bodyframe is less petite and boobs are bigger. I am not sure if the girl was just inexperienced or that was the way how things were set up for that establishment. Everything felt very scripted, timed and very rushed. I guess when they mention a 90 minutes experience, it should be disclaimed as 90 minutes or less whichever comes first, LOL. Could the Soapie experience be better in Tokyo? I may have to check it out in the future.

Next, I went to a Thai massage place to get rid of my back strains and muscle aches from the earlier 12 hours flight.

Headed towards Soi 6 after the massage. I have heard of Soi 6, but only realized that it actually refers to the street name, kind of like the 6th Street. They have all these Soi streets in perpendicular to the main Beach road, so it is actually easy to navigate your way around. Soi 6 has the higher concentration of bars for a particular street from my observation, and it was actually quite a fun experience to walk through that street. You are basically a bait swimming through the fishes. There are all these bar girls standing in front of the bar and would encourage you to come in. They would strategically stop you and occasionally try to pull you to get into the bar. However, they were never done in any aggressive manner at all, and if you avoid eye contact with them, they would probably leave you alone.

So if you just want to spend a lazy afternoon and do some "people watching", you can go to the bar and sit there to do just that. You get to see all the different reactions from the guys as they walk through the street and got approached by these girls. I was among them, haha. I spent a bit of time at Lisa bar and chatted with the girls by buying them drinks. The bar girls made their earnings that way through a cut of these sales. These bars have rooms above if you want a quickie, or they can be brought out to accompany you for ST or LT and you need to pay the bar a fee known as bar fine, a terminology that I still find interesting. I guess the bar needs to recoup their investment on the girls in some way, since they are paid a monthly salary to work there. With so many of these bars around, I am pretty sure that competition for business is intense.

That night, my friend and I went to the Walking Street for some GoGo bar hopping, and it is an area where the GG bars are concentrated. The GG bar uses the concept of girls parading through the center stage in rotation. Sometimes the girls would be half naked, and most times I can tell that they really hated to be up there doing this stupid routine. I can't really blame them since who wouldn't? Their faces were mostly expressionless and if they happen to notice that you are looking in their direction, would occasionally flash a smile to see if you might be interested to buy them a drink after they got off stage. My so-called lady drinks have ranged from anywhere between 150 to 200 B. I would get to check if I can have the chemistry with the girl that way. If not, I would pay my bill and move on to the next bar.

That late night I ended up booking LT with a girl at the bar called Airport. That was the bar that has no bar fine, but regardless the prices will always be factored in. It's just how you want to call them. I negotiated with the mamasan on the prices directly and it took a few counter offers. By the way, I find the amount that you pay for the girls are very subjective so I am not going to reveal how much I have paid. Your price is always going to be determined by your available information and context, your level of desire, and your willingness to walk away. YMMV (your miles may vary).

From my experience so far, bar fines have remained consistent at 800 B at all the bars. The GG rate can go anywhere from 2000 to 5000 B for LT from what I am told. But don't take my words literally. However, girls would be willing to negotiate as the night drags on, as they would prefer to earn something rather than nothing as GG bar closes at 3 AM if I not mistaken.

After bar fining the girl, we went to watch the pussy show just right above the Airport bar. Let's just that after that show, I have a greater sense of distaste for coke and anything that comes out of the pussies. Those things can kill, LOL.

Day 2:

Slept till 11 AM with the girl from the previous night, and would have slept even further if I had not been interrupted by the hotel receptionist asking me if I wanted to extend my hotel stay, and I said yes.

Later in the afternoon, I went back to the same massage place for a foot massage with the same girl. For some reason, I was attracted to her, but like a teenager, I was too chicken to ask her out, hahaha. But the bigger barrier is of course the Thai language, which I know nothing about.

Later, my friend and I went for another round of walk through Soi 6 again and ended up at Lisa bar. Next to Lisa bar was Ruby. I noticed a girl seated just a few seats away that attracted me. She sat quietly and looked very shy. She would look away even after I have looked at her and showed sign of interest. Maybe I was in the wrong bar. So I closed my bill and stepped into Ruby and bought her a drink. Again, communication has remained a barrier, and beyond a few simple greetings, I have to rely on Google translate.

I liked her and decided to bar-fine her for LT, since it would not be a bad idea to have an escort in Pattaya for a day. GG bar demands upfront payment, but for this joint, I can pay her after her services, except for the bar fine which I have to pay first. This is a good sign, since I really hate to pay upfront for any services. We would take leisurely stroll and relax on the beach, and later on head back to the hotel for a quick session. That evening, we would spend our time in I-Bar, and later Insomnia. That girl can really hold her drink, as I found myself getting drunk faster over the same rounds of tequila shots. Also, I find it much cheaper to just order a bottle. We would drink, dance and make out all night. It was a great experience to be pempered by her that night.

Day 3:

Went back to the Thai massage place again for the third time for massages with the same girl. By now, she had grown comfortable with me. Too bad that it was my last day in Pattaya and logistically it would be difficult to ask her out.

That evening, my friend and I went more GG bar hopping. He had his favorite at Peppermint, and we stopped by to bar fine his girl, before our next stop to Baccara. I have posted a brief report of Baccara earlier, and so I am going to skip the section here. Anyway, I bar fined a girl later on, and initially she was fun to be with. We spent time in Lucifer drinking and dancing. However, I had to later kick her out of my room, and again it was in my previously posted report, LOL. In the end, I texted the girl from last night, and she agreed to come by my hotel after getting off work from the bar.

One more thing that I almost forgot to mention. My sexual experience with these girls were not great. They were either inexperienced or not into it. I find sex with the GG girls particularly bad. Forget about getting a BBJ from the GG girls, and usually I have no problem with CBJ and I prefer that route in places like this. However, you cannot do CBJ and yet still be repulsive by the condom taste. That's a bad combination. For great sex experience, I would still prefer the FKK route in Germany.

Member #4591

09-26-17, 14:03

Flew in from Germany to Bangkok on Thai Airways in their new A350 Airbus. I was pleasantly surprised by how spacious their economy seat was, easily an equivalent to any economy plus on many airlines. Their services were great too.

This was my first trip to Thailand which I included this time as part of my global iteniary. I had already been touring the FKK the last week. Anyway, I just want to share my experiences of Pattaya from a newbie POV.

Day 1:

Landed at BKK around noon, and took a taxi to Pattaya, and it costed 1600 B for the trip. You might be able to get there more cheaply if you know your way around the system. But to me I value my time and convenience more than the savings of a few bucks.

Checked into the hotel, freshened up and grabbed some lunch. My first trip was to the Sabai Room and I wanted to check out the Thai Soapie experience for myself.

Inside the building you would see the ladies grouped based on the color of their badge numbers. The different color represents different price tier. Could it be based on their popularity and experience?

Thai girls were mostly small and petite with small natural breasts. I mentioned natural because I later found out that those with a bigger set are more often than not implants. Some of them were done so well that I would often ask if they were actually implants. They would always say yes and let me feel them in the GG bars. These implants were done through injections via their armpits, which is better since it does not leave behind unsightly scars. Here is how I would describe them, it feels like squeezing into a memory foam. It may look more natural, but you can still feel the difference.

I picked a girl from the lineup just based on her look and smile, and that was probably my newbie mistake numero Uno. The girl's body frame was petite and her push up bra made her boobs appear bigger. However, soapie involves body to body contact, and I think the experience would have been more enjoyable if the bodyframe is less petite and boobs are bigger. I am not sure if the girl was just inexperienced or that was the way how things were set up for that establishment. Everything felt very scripted, timed and very rushed. I guess when they mention a 90 minutes experience, it should be disclaimed as 90 minutes or less whichever comes first, LOL. Could the Soapie experience be better in Tokyo? I may have to check it out in the future.

Next, I went to a Thai massage place to get rid of my back strains and muscle aches from the earlier 12 hours flight.

Headed towards Soi 6 after the massage. I have heard of Soi 6, but only realized that it actually refers to the street name, kind of like the 6th Street. They have all these Soi streets in perpendicular to the main Beach road, so it is actually easy to navigate your way around. Soi 6 has the higher concentration of bars for a particular street from my observation, and it was actually quite a fun experience to walk through that street. You are basically a bait swimming through the fishes. There are all these bar girls standing in front of the bar and would encourage you to come in. They would strategically stop you and occasionally try to pull you to get into the bar. However, they were never done in any aggressive manner at all, and if you avoid eye contact with them, they would probably leave you alone.

So if you just want to spend a lazy afternoon and do some "people watching", you can go to the bar and sit there to do just that. You get to see all the different reactions from the guys as they walk through the street and got approached by these girls. I was among them, haha. I spent a bit of time at Lisa bar and chatted with the girls by buying them drinks. The bar girls made their earnings that way through a cut of these sales. These bars have rooms above if you want a quickie, or they can be brought out to accompany you for ST or LT and you need to pay the bar a fee known as bar fine, a terminology that I still find interesting. I guess the bar needs to recoup their investment on the girls in some way, since they are paid a monthly salary to work there. With so many of these bars around, I am pretty sure that competition for business is intense.

That night, my friend and I went to the Walking Street for some GoGo bar hopping, and it is an area where the GG bars are concentrated. The GG bar uses the concept of girls parading through the center stage in rotation. Sometimes the girls would be half naked, and most times I can tell that they really hated to be up there doing this stupid routine. I can't really blame them since who wouldn't? Their faces were mostly expressionless and if they happen to notice that you are looking in their direction, would occasionally flash a smile to see if you might be interested to buy them a drink after they got off stage. My so-called lady drinks have ranged from anywhere between 150 to 200 B. I would get to check if I can have the chemistry with the girl that way. If not, I would pay my bill and move on to the next bar.

That late night I ended up booking LT with a girl at the bar called Airport. That was the bar that has no bar fine, but regardless the prices will always be factored in. It's just how you want to call them. I negotiated with the mamasan on the prices directly and it took a few counter offers. By the way, I find the amount that you pay for the girls are very subjective so I am not going to reveal how much I have paid. Your price is always going to be determined by your available information and context, your level of desire, and your willingness to walk away. YMMV (your miles may vary).

From my experience so far, bar fines have remained consistent at 800 B at all the bars. The GG rate can go anywhere from 2000 to 5000 B for LT from what I am told. But don't take my words literally. However, girls would be willing to negotiate as the night drags on, as they would prefer to earn something rather than nothing as GG bar closes at 3 AM if I not mistaken.

After bar fining the girl, we went to watch the pussy show just right above the Airport bar. Let's just that after that show, I have a greater sense of distaste for coke and anything that comes out of the pussies. Those things can kill, LOL.

Day 2:

Slept till 11 AM with the girl from the previous night, and would have slept even further if I had not been interrupted by the hotel receptionist asking me if I wanted to extend my hotel stay, and I said yes.

Later in the afternoon, I went back to the same massage place for a foot massage with the same girl. For some reason, I was attracted to her, but like a teenager, I was too chicken to ask her out, hahaha. But the bigger barrier is of course the Thai language, which I know nothing about.

Later, my friend and I went for another round of walk through Soi 6 again and ended up at Lisa bar. Next to Lisa bar was Ruby. I noticed a girl seated just a few seats away that attracted me. She sat quietly and looked very shy. She would look away even after I have looked at her and showed sign of interest. Maybe I was in the wrong bar. So I closed my bill and stepped into Ruby and bought her a drink. Again, communication has remained a barrier, and beyond a few simple greetings, I have to rely on Google translate.

I liked her and decided to bar-fine her for LT, since it would not be a bad idea to have an escort in Pattaya for a day. GG bar demands upfront payment, but for this joint, I can pay her after her services, except for the bar fine which I have to pay first. This is a good sign, since I really hate to pay upfront for any services. We would take leisurely stroll and relax on the beach, and later on head back to the hotel for a quick session. That evening, we would spend our time in I-Bar, and later Insomnia. That girl can really hold her drink, as I found myself getting drunk faster over the same rounds of tequila shots. Also, I find it much cheaper to just order a bottle. We would drink, dance and make out all night. It was a great experience to be pempered by her that night.

Day 3:

Went back to the Thai massage place again for the third time for massages with the same girl. By now, she had grown comfortable with me. Too bad that it was my last day in Pattaya and logistically it would be difficult to ask her out.

That evening, my friend and I went more GG bar hopping. He had his favorite at Peppermint, and we stopped by to bar fine his girl, before our next stop to Baccara. I have posted a brief report of Baccara earlier, and so I am going to skip the section here. Anyway, I bar fined a girl later on, and initially she was fun to be with. We spent time in Lucifer drinking and dancing. However, I had to later kick her out of my room, and again it was in my previously posted report, LOL. In the end, I texted the girl from last night, and she agreed to come by my hotel after getting off rwork from the bar.

One more thing that I almost forgot to mention. My sexual experience with these girls were not great. They were either inexperienced or not into it. I find sex with the GG girls particularly bad. Forget about getting a BBJ from the GG girls, and usually I have no problem with CBJ and I prefer that route in places like this. However, you cannot do CBJ and yet still be repulsive by the condom taste. That's a bad combination. For great sex experience, I would still prefer the FKK route in Germany.Great first report. A lot of your Thailand newbie experiences will help others to navigate. Do you plan to contact any ladies through apps, social media, or that websites? You might want to gove that a try as well.

Thampi62

09-27-17, 09:00

Hi friends,

Formerly Pat bar 1 in Soi 6 is now converted into Candy bar. Functioning as a girl bar. Expecting feed back from members about the bar.

Abcce398

09-28-17, 22:50

Hi all,

Not my first post on ISG, but it's nice to mix things up. After a few experiences in Pattaya I thought I'd share a summary of what I have found. Seems many new people come to the forums with basic questions and they might appreciate a high level summary. Just a disclaimer, this is my experience and it is in no way exhaustive or definitive, nor do I claim it is. There is not substitute for reading more of these forums and doing your own research. I just hope it might be helpful to some.

So I was planning to write just a few notes and then the more I wrote, the more things I thought to write about. So this is part 1, about the fun activities. There is a part 2 about Pattaya logistics. A part 3 about the mentality of gogo girls and possibly a part 4 about.

Before you even come to Pattaya, you can start laying down some groundwork on the Internet. I had luck with Badoo and Tinder. With Badoo you can set your location to Pattaya for free, with Tinder you have to pay a few dollars a month to do it. Other apps and websites are mentioned in the forums. Once you start swiping you will soon have matches with FL's, many who are quite sexy. The going rate seems to be 1000 for ST and the most I was quoted was 3000 for LT. Did not try to negotiate. If the pictures are real, then there are definitely bargains on there.

Everyone in Thailand seems to be using Line to chat, so install that. Many of the girls on Badoo or Tinder will list their Line IDs in their profiles, so you can contact them directly. When you are in Pattaya, Line and WeChat have features to find nearby users. Keep in mind there are normal girls on those apps as well, so don't open with "Are you a ladyboy?" and "How much do you charge?" If you play your cards right, you might end up holidaying with a cute normal girl for free / much cheaper. The working girls will quickly make it quite clear what they are there for.

As an aside on ladyboys, "How do you recognise them?" seems to be the number one question and everyone is afraid of accidentally ending up with a ladyboy instead of a lady. Firstly, it is pretty clear for a lot of ladyboys that they are not girls, however some of them can fool anyone. On the dating apps and sites, most ladyboys will specify they are ladyboys. And in general, while there are many clues you can pick up on, like height, voice, size of hands, Adam's apple, demeanour, and so on, the annoying truth seems to be that when you see a "girl" who looks really HOT, she is most likely a ladyboy.

They are taller, slimmer, have big boobs, wear high heels, sexy dresses, and have perfect hair and make-up. Plus, the androgynous look can be appealing. The Thai girls dress more conservatively and often wear less / worse make-up. Even FL's in clubs seldom dress provocatively. You can pick up some of these differences in pictures also.

Back to real girls, the FL's you meet on the Internet most likely also frequent the clubs on Walking St, some even mention this in their profiles. So, if you are worried about the accuracy of the pictures, you could always organise to meet them out first, before inviting them back to the hotel. As to meeting FL's in clubs / discos on Walking St, just have a look around the club and you will see plenty of Thai girls either alone or in small groups. Find one who takes your fancy and offer to buy her a drink. The prices quoted tend to be more around 1500/2000 for ST in clubs.

There is a lot to be said for picking up a FL in a club. There is no bar fine, the prices are lower and more easily negotiable, and if you hit the jackpot with a girl, you can easily organise to see her again without having to worry about her work schedule. Quite a few of them are very cute and are working as FL's because they don't want the hassle of gogo contracts and rules, and / or they believe they can't dance. Rather amusing considering the standard of dance in gogos. Other reasons are visibility to family, shyness and I have also noticed a perception that to be a gogo girl you must be extra beautiful, extra slim, extra.

More FL's, in the evening primarily along Beach Rd, and then along Walking St, especially later in the evening. Don't know much about prices for those, but I imagine they are lower and negotiable. Read the forums. I have seen the odd cutie among those girls as well. A word of caution about FL's in general, if you have problems with them or they steal something from you, you will have little recourse.

Bar girls, have not spent a lot of time in beer bars or with bar girls in Pattaya. The bars can be found all over the place, several areas on Walking St, a complex on Beach Rd not far from Walking St and then many in the Sois 6, 7, 8, but also in lots of other areas. The prices you might expect and other locations are discussed in the forums, but expect a fair bit cheaper than gogos. The process is easy, have a drink at the bar, see if any of the girls catches your fancy, buy her one or more lady drinks and then negotiate with her to find out her price, pay the bar fine and away you go. On average, the bar girls are less pretty than in gogos, but cuties can be found anywhere if you look closely enough.

The advantages of bars are several, in addition to the price, they can be genuinely a lot of fun, there is a lot less pressure, they are not so busy, the girls are not running off to dance every 20 minutes, or leaving you to hustle drinks from "friends" who just walked in. You can spend time with the girls in a more natural environment, there are various games to play, just be careful you don't gamble too much on those games, you are NOT a better player than the girls. Also, often you start chatting with everyone else at the bar and really make a night of it. Finally, if you hit it off with the girl and she fulfills all your desires in bed, it is much cheaper to bar fine her several nights if you so desire.

There are ladyboy bars, which should be pretty easy to spot, but be mindful that even in regular bars some of the ladies can be ladyboys. And in particular post-op ladyboys are pretty much considered ladies. I had an interesting experience where I was pretty sure the hottest girl in the bar used to be a man and the mamasan was very reluctant to tell me because the girl was a post-op ladyboy. Caveat emptor.

The bars on Soi 6 are special because they are open earlier in the afternoon and a lot of them have rooms upstairs where you can take a girl for a quickie if it strikes your fancy. The experience is described elsewhere on the forums and on the Internet. There are also BJ bars that specialize in, well, BJs, should you desire a beer and BJ.

The famous soapies, something you must try at least once in your life, and then you might be hooked. There are several around, but three main ones are close together, Sabai Dee, Honey 2, and Sabai Room, on Second Rd, around Soi 2/3, take the baht bus. Rasputin is not far off, closer to Soi 6. The girls are sorted in categories and the price varies accordingly, something like 2000/2500/3000+ for 1. 5 hours, but that customarily includes one pop only, so you may be out of there sooner than 1. 5 hours. Some of the "model" girls are even more expensive.

Some tips here, when you go in, very "helpful" papasans will push you to pick a girl in the first 30's and try to send you off to the room. Be polite but firm in telling them you want to take your time, AND take your time. Check out the girls, get close, see if any of them is trying to get your attention. You can even get a beer while you make your choice. And if you decide you do not want any of the girls, just walk away, don't feel bad or pressured into picking someone.

Keep in mind the girls are quite far away and wearing a lot of make-up; the long hair will quickly be tied up and disappear once you are in the room, along with the generous push-up bra. A -2/3 score modifier is usually about spot on in these places. Your knockout 10 hottie may end up being only a 7 up close. That being said, if you do see a girl you like, be decisive. Chances are, by the time you check out the other soapies and come back for that girl, she will be gone with another customer. Don't be fooled by the fact the place seems empty, there is a steady stream of customers.

The papasan and the girl will probably expect tips. It depends how nice you want to be, especially to the girl if she did right by you. As I mentioned, once you pop, most girls will take that to be the end of the session, regardless of time. And at least some girls will try to make that happen as quickly as possible and bundle you out of the room. If you want a second pop then negotiate with the girl. Don't know if any soapies guarantee you will have 1.5 hours and multiple pops if you wish.

"Sex shows", the famous Thai ping-pong show. There are touts for them every 2 meters on Walking St. Their motto seems to be overpromise and underdeliver, always for outrageous prices. Avoid, unless you feel like you really must experience this. They always promise a sex show, and they will wave flyers in your face with couples engaged in crazy sex acts, but I have never seen a couple in any of these shows, or lesbians, or pretty girls, the only guaranteed act is a middle-aged woman pulling things out of her privates. Be really sceptical about the promise of no obligation, free entry; in these places a beer can be 1000/1500 baht and they WILL make you buy drinks.

The gogo bars and gogo girls, the main event for many people going to Pattaya. The primary area for gogos is Walking St with a much smaller area in LK Metro. LK Metro, is an area with a bunch of bars and gogos, it is cheaper, especially for beer at the bars. The gogos have some talent in them, but in my opinion, do not compare well with Walking St. Could check it out earlier in the night and only stay if you find something of interest. The forums have more information.

Walking St, the home of dozens upon dozens of gogos. Some of the ones I enjoyed and I suppose also some of the larger gogos on Walking St: Sensations, Baccarat, Skyfall, Sapphire, WhatsUp, Fahrenheit, Palace. Check some of these out and also anything else that takes your fancy, have a look at the forums for what others are saying. And every night spend an hour checking out one or two new places, you never know what you stumble upon. The prices at the places I listed are usually bar fine 1500 pm (before midnight), 1000 am (after midnight), and 3000ST /5000 LT for the lady. Drinks for you usually in the range 140-170, more for lady drinks. Many places will have happy hour before certain times and some will have all night specials on certain nights.

The girls dance on rotation for 15-20 minutes, usually in three groups. So, if you stay in a place for an hour, you are likely to see all the available girls dancing on stage. If you see a girl you like, buy her a drink without hesitation, otherwise someone else will. And a good number of guys will buy a girl a drink or two and then bar fine if they like her, so you may lose your opportunity if you hesitate. The girls usually have numbers, this is the easiest way to indicate which girl you want to buy a drink for, but if you cannot see her number, any of the staff will quickly help you figure it out. Just point at the girl and motion you want to buy her a drink.

In my opinion, if you are buying drinks for a girl, she should sit with you and nobody else, and not have to dance, unfortunately the rules are different across the gogos. In some places, once you buy a girl a drink, she will come off stage straight away and join you. When it is her turn to dance again, if you are still buying drinks, she will only have to dance for a few minutes and she will join you again. But in other places the girl has to dance her full rotation before she can join you and again every time it is her turn. It can be frustrating, since she will usually also want to "go to the toilet" quite often.

In terms of buying drinks, other guys can usually buy drinks for "your" girl even if she is sitting with you and / or you are waiting for her to finish dancing. It then becomes kind of a queue system. Even if you bought her a drink, she will go to have the drink with the other guy and then come back to you. If the other guy then offers more drinks she will often choose to ping pong between you and him. The tiring obsession with lady drinks. If you find yourself in this situation, either bar fine or leave, because you will somehow be buying lady drinks continually but only spending 15 minutes in every hour with the girl!

In terms of prices, I stated what is the norm in the clubs I listed. Many places will also have "models", an allegedly higher tier of girls, who usually dance topless. May seem counter-intuitive if you expect exclusivity means doing less. The models will command a higher bar fine, maybe 2000 pm /1500 am and sometimes a higher price for the girl but not always. WhatsUp prices are from another planet for models, expect 3000 bar fine and 5000ST /8000 LT. Be careful of places asking for the girl's money upfront, seen it commonly in WhatsUp and Baccarat, and attempted in a couple of other gogos. Show the girl you have the money, but do not pay upfront. More on that later.

Something VERY important to be aware of, find out if the girl you are talking to is available for bar fine as soon as possible after you start chatting. It may appear that, if she is working, she is available to come with you, but there are a million reasons this may not be so, especially if you want long time. I have been caught out a couple of times after totally hitting it off with a girl for a few hours she turns around and says she cannot go out. Some examples, she is on her period (a classic), she is too tired or too drunk, she lives with her boyfriend / family (this means no LT and ST must be early in the evening), she doesn't trust / go with men of your race / type, she is waiting for a regular customer, she has a party later on, she needs to make her drink quota (more about this later), she doesn't go for sex (usually an excuse, but sometimes true). These reasons may be real or made up, but nonetheless. Not all girls will like all guys, this is normal, and should become pretty clear before you are about to bar fine.

If you read the forums there certainly seems to be an indication some negotiation may be possible and / or in the smaller gogos prices may be cheaper. It depends on a lot of factors, including how much the girl likes you, how she is feeling that night, how popular she is, how much she needs money, and so on. I generally don't haggle too much because it sets the wrong tone. Sometimes I try to include a performance clause, e. G. , the girl asks for 3000 and I offer 2500 plus 500 tip if she really is as naughty as she says she is. .

You may wish to bar fine a girl just to go dancing in a club or to have dinner. It may feel like you are doing her a favour by giving her the opportunity to stop working and have fun with you instead. But don't be surprised if the girl still wants money and she even asks you for the full ST price (more on this later). If you don't want sex, make it very clear before the bar fine what you are willing to pay. Sometimes she may be happy to be bar fined, spend some time with you and then go sleep without expecting anything else. Definitely don't pay more than 1000 for no sex. If you want to dance, why not meet some FL's in the club instead?

One last thing about gogos, you may notice the bartenders and, in the larger clubs, the hostesses also have numbers. They, too, can be bar fined and may be flattered you chose them over a dancer. It's not too common, but sometimes you can find a super cute and / or super fun waitress; she might even have a slightly higher standard of English.

Eastern European girls. Of course, why are you looking for Europeans in Thailand? That aside, on the dating sites I mentioned above, you will find some CIS girls, but they mostly seem to be regular girls. Spoke to a couple and there was no indication they were working girls. So you could play the longer game and meet up with them, see if you hit it off, etc. In the same vein, you will run into CIS girls around Pattaya during the day, especially on the beach. If you have game or balls, you can strike up a conversation, you never know where it might lead. But do not make the mistake of thinking sex is guaranteed or that they will definitely be interested in your money.

If you are looking for something more definitive, go to the very end of Walking St and you will find Mixx disco. It will have a number of CIS girls looking for customers. Just survey the place for a little bit and you will soon spot who is there to dance and who is there for business. Don't know the prices, but expect high. The quality was never sufficient for me to start chatting to any of them, but don't be shy if one catches your eye. The other dance clubs may also have Europeans working, especially Insomnia. There is also a Russian restaurant half way down Walking St that often has girls eating / drinking there. But difficult to know if they are working or just tourists. Again, you can always say Hi and see what happens.

Finally, the Russian strip clubs. There are several, five or even six, Russian clubs on Walking St. Some / many? Years ago, there were fewer clubs, full of sexy girls, and which put on a hell of a pole dancing show. They were always expensive. Now I feel the quality has gone down and the prices have gone up. The Russian financial crisis did not help, with a drastic reduction of Russian tourists to Pattaya since 2015.

What to expect in a Russian club? Actual pole dancing and topless only stripping on stage, lap dances and full nudity in private shows. Extremely expensive drinks for you, 300/400?, and exorbitant, 500/1000?, lady drinks. Really check the menu for the prices of what you are buying and especially for the lady drinks. Make sure what you think you are ordering for the girl is what you are actually ordering. Compulsory 100 baht tips for dancers who basically come around to collect the tips after they dance on stage. A 10-min private lap dance will be 2000/3000. Bar fine 3000 AN HOUR and 15000/20000 for all night. Have not visited last time I was there, but these should be ballpark.

Be careful, it might seem 6000 for two hours with a Russian is not far off from the 4500 you might pay for ST with a gogo girl (including bar fine). But remember, 6000 is only the bar fine! Nothing extra is usually included / guaranteed. The girl will expect to go drinking, dancing, eating with you and that's about it. Normally I would say most Russian club girls don't have sex with clients full stop, but times are tough, so I will say, some will not have sex with clients. If you are after sex, then find out which girls are willing to do it and for what price. Be wary of vague promises, like "everything is possible, we'll see what happens later. ".

African girls, a few can be found on the dating apps I mentioned and they pretty much all appear to be FL's. Some say as much on their profile. I did not ask how much they charge. They can also be found on Walking St, about half way down, there is an open bar area on the left that has about 10-15 black girls hanging out. You can't miss it.

And a few more mentions for completeness.

If you want more than one girl, you can bring back more than one girl to your hotel (check that the hotel allows it and be prepared to pay a joiner fee for the second girl), however you will probably end up with two girls who will have very little sexual interest in each other, even if they are friends. You may be happy with this. But if you want a genuine threesome, where everyone is having sex with everyone, you could try talking to the mamasans in your favourite bars / gogos to see if there are any bisexual girls working there. Or check out Devil's Den for threesomes or moresomes. I mention it because they specialise in that kind of thing. And bonus, they are open during the day.

If ladyboys are your poison, they are everywhere, including dedicated ladyboy bars and areas, plus lots of them online. If you feel like experimenting with a ladyboy, they are part of Thai culture, so nobody will bat an eyelid at your hotel.

There is an area dedicated to gay bars, Boys Town, not far from Walking St, on Second Rd. And for lesbians, there are of course all the places mentioned so far, just ask the mamasan which girls are into girls. If you are looking for Toms (in the West they might be called dykes) there are quite a few tomboy bars. You can search the Internet.

And finally, tourist girls, already mentioned Russian tourist girls, but in general don't forget Pattaya is a cheap party destination, so all the beaches, bars and nightclubs will also have plenty of girls who are there on holidays with friends and sometimes even alone. Take the opportunity, start a conversation, have fun, you never know what you will find. Everyone is in Pattaya to be a little bit naughty!

Happy hunting!

Mr Enternational

09-29-17, 05:57

Will someone please explain to me, "See you when you see me. " After all these years I am afraid that I still do not get it.

Banana Boi

09-29-17, 09:01

Sunlover2

09-29-17, 11:33

Will someone please explain to me, "See you when you see me. " After all these years I am afraid that I still do not get it.

Using my Thenglish skills, I think it means she will see you again when you come back to see her.Agreed. While the statement itself is a pithy truism; I would take it to mean she is not going to stalk or otherwise contact you, but is also a coy invite for you to contact her.

SL.

Ed Setra

09-29-17, 11:36

Mr Enternational

09-29-17, 12:04

Agreed. While the statement itself is a pithy truism; I would take it to mean she is not going to stalk or otherwise contact you, but is also a coy invite for you to contact her.LOL. I would hope there would be no stalking involved. The waitress at the place I eat every morning said it to me. In the hood we would say see you when I see you, so the see you when you see me thing has always thrown me off. Probably because you may well not see me when I see you.

Anyway. I rode through Soi 6 just after 1am last night. Pretty much everything was closed except for Nightwish and a handful of other bars. They must be giving the cops a pretty coin. Even still, as usual, I had no problem spotting plenty of chicks that I would bang. Had just dropped a wechat chick off at her room so I was good. Also around that time there were a lot of chicks leaving their LK Metro gigs. I am sure some could be gotten for the low without a pesky barfine.

As usual here, bars, restaurants, and other businesses are closing down and others are opening up. My favorite Italian place closed down and another one opened just down the street from it. Me and one of my chicks are eating here now and as could be guessed, we are the only ones here. What would make them believe they would do any better than the last place? You would have to be really daring to open a business around this place.

Banana Boi

09-29-17, 21:24

Matong36

09-30-17, 02:02

55 female hookers arrested Thursday night and 50 more Friday night on Beach Roads in Pattaya and Jomtien and along Walking Street. Police gave the reason "The prostitution crackdown followed complaints that street prostitutes caused public nuisance as they always annoyed tourists."

A nuisance? Not that I walk Beach Road much but I can't recall hookers calling me to come talk to them or grabbing me as I walk by. They just smile hoping you come talk to them.The girls tend to run and the police will run after them.

Had an experience where the police was questioning a freelancer around beach road when I was there and I acted like her boyfriend, then the police went on to the next target.

Something must have happened that they decided to do some 'work'.

Mr Enternational

09-30-17, 02:39

Abcce398

09-30-17, 16:42

Hi all,

This is part 2, following on from my previous post, this one is about Pattaya logistics. The same disclaimer, this is my experience and it is in no way exhaustive or definitive, nor do I claim it is. There is no substitute for reading more of these forums and doing your own research. I just hope it might be helpful to some.

Getting to Pattaya from BKK, I prefer booking one of the many available private taxi services for the benefit of someone waiting for me and not having to negotiate with, and trust the airport taxis. Price will be in the 1200-1500 range. For the price conscious, there are a couple of bus services that seemed OK, but if you miss one bus, the next one might not be for another hour or more. Private taxis booked at the airport are expensive.

Accommodation in Pattaya, choose a hotel at your price point and check the reviews. You will find some bad reviews for every hotel, but look at the overall picture. Don't get caught out by hotels with great scores but only few reviews. Expect the many cheap hotels to be quite basic. Things get better around $40+ a night. Check the hotel is joiner friendly (you can bring a guest free of charge, but usually only one); most hotels are. Resort hotels tend not to be.

Consider AirBnB for better value for money and no joiner fees even for multiple joiners. There are some nice condos that can be had very cheap. But on the flipside, lots of apartment blocks have "No AirBnB" signs plastered all over the place and you will be on your own if you have problems with the girls. If you are not alone then it is less of a concern.

Getting around Pattaya, take the "baht bus". Tuk tuks that make a circle on Beach Rd and Second Rd (Sai Song). Just wait on the side of the road and some of them will honk to get your attention; wave and they will stop. Jump in the back and ring the buzzer when you want to get off. Cost is 10 baht. Have some coins handy otherwise you run the risk of getting back a handful of 1 baht coins as change or no change at all.

Some tuk tuks that go up Second Rd will head North instead of coming around Beach Rd, you can always ask the driver when you get on or play tuk tuk roulette and jump off when you notice it is going in the wrong direction. They do seem to have numbers also, so you could do your research and learn the routes.

Be careful about getting into a tuk tuk parked on the side of the road or entering negotiations with a tuk tuk that stops to pick you up. Sometimes as little as asking if he is going past a particular place can be "interpreted" as a private hire which can then cost you 200-300+ baht rather than 10. The taximeters around the place do not use the meter, so forget that. Motorbike taxis can be much more reasonable if you don't mind riding without a helmet and if you are savvy about the prices. Trips should be around 40-50 for short distances. And now Pattaya even has a few Ubers!

Food, nice and cheap. Depending how strong of stomach you are, you can take your chances with street food or one of the many cheap Thai restaurants all over the place. The next level are probably the food courts available in the malls, like downstairs at Central Festival. You load some cash on the card they give you and then you can choose from the many available options. The cash left over is refundable when you exit or you can keep the card for next day.

Going to level 6 of Central Festival will give you a wide selection of higher end, mostly Asian restaurants (lots of Japanese) and Bon Chon chicken on level 7. Korean style fried chicken, try it! There are then some more expensive European places around, Hopf Brew House, Kitchen, Wine Connection, etc. Hooters for wings and at least one cute CIS waitress last time I was there. Obviously not complete, have a look on the Internet and the forums.

Mobile phone, I consider Internet access to be indispensable for finding your way around, and also finding and communicating with girls, see previous post. Never pay crazy roaming charges! There are several phone companies in Thailand and most, if not all, of them seem to offer some sort of tourist deal, usually 7 days unlimited Internet for around 300-400 baht. Pretty amazing. I have been very satisfied with DTAC, I think they have a 7-day and a 14-day tourist offering.

There is a DTAC shop in Central Festival, but you need to take your passport. Pissed me off since driver's license used to be sufficient. If you'd rather be anonymous, for a bit more you can get a no questions asked DTAC SIM in Mike Shopping Mall, go up a few levels, or on South Pattaya Rd. Make sure they activate it and check it is working before you leave.

Money exchange, a commonly asked question. Don't exchange money at the airport or on Walking St! If you have USD, EUR, GBP then the rates at various exchange booths can be very good. (Probably also other currencies, AUD, yen, but cannot tell from experience.) Better than what you can do at an ATM even if your card has no ATM and FX fees. If your card has those then don't even bring it on holidays! Unfortunately, the Thai ATM's charge a fee of around 200 baht per withdrawal and most have a limit of 20,000 baht, so that is 1% already, on top of whatever rate you get from your bank. You will do better exchanging cash.

Go up Beach Rd or Second Rd a little bit and have a look at the exchange rates. Be mindful some will offer quite bad rates, relatively speaking, while others will be super close to the mid-market rate. Also, some will have special rates on certain currencies, usually USD, that are very good one day but then revert to not so good the next day, so keep monitoring. You will soon get a feel for what is a good rate. Most will offer a better rate for $50/100 notes than for lower denominations, so bring those if you are bringing USD.

If you have a card with no FX fees and charges, you can use that card for purchases, especially in restaurants, pharmacies, malls, etc. It used to be no issue to use cards if they had the card reader machine, but unfortunately now I have encountered quite a few places where "the machine does not work. " But try anyway.

Bring your own condoms, they are reasonably expensive in Thailand and may be of a poorer quality and different size. That being said, pharmacies are everywhere and they sell an assortment of condoms and lubricant. In terms of medication for your friend in the basement, you are able to buy Viagra and Cialis in pharmacies, but the brand stuff will be expensive. The generic brands are much cheaper, Kamagra and Apcalis, respectively. If you have issues with the large pharmacies in shopping malls, just try a smaller pharmacy on the street.

You can easily get all sorts of other medication from pharmacies without prescription, including antibiotics. If you need to see a doctor, the hospitals are set up to deal with tourists and the fee will be reasonable. Keep receipts to claim on travel insurance. Dental is also reasonably priced.

Along Beach Rd, you will find any number of street vendors that also sell these medicines. The branded stuff is likely substituted with the generic at best and completely fake at worst. However, the generic Kamagra is cheap and readily available, so it may be fine. Check the prices and compare with the pharmacy prices. Some people swear by the Kamagra jelly sachets taken just before heading to the hotel with your girl. Cialis is also about to come off patent so you may soon find much cheaper generics in your own country.

Barber shops, they are around. A reasonable one is on South Pattaya Rd between Beach Rd and Second Rd, so perfectly placed for a shave before heading into Walking St. They are open until 9/10 pm and they have a schedule of prices on the wall.

Massages, at less than $10 an hour, a must have. But what about the massages with happy endings? How to tell apart the real massage places from the ones where more is possible? Getting it wrong either way can be amusing and frustrating. Look at the venue and the masseuses and you're 90% of the way there. The real massage places are usually larger, have glass walls, many massage chairs visible from outside and have mostly older women with little make-up as masseuses. They also tend to be less aggressive about getting you to come in. If you see a place with fewer masseuses, but younger, wearing make-up, bright lipstick, and they are practically trying to drag you in, then you most likely have stumbled across a place with additional, special services.

I did not address massages with happy endings in my previous post. Yet another fun day activity in Pattaya. The premise is that of a massage, and while it starts out the same (the quality of the actual massage is often poorer), it soon ends up focusing on areas that reputable masseuses avoid. The extra services range from nothing, if you find yourself there by accident and make it clear you are not interested, to sex if you agree on the price, with hand job and blow job somewhere in between. These extra services are not included in the massage price, maybe a hand job if you get lucky, and should be negotiated with the girl. As always, if you find a girl you like, you may be able to "bar fine" her or definitely organise to see her after work or the next day.

Tips, they are always appreciated by everyone, but are not instituted the same way they are in the US and they certainly are not a percentage of the transaction amount. So no, if your bar bill is 2000, you are not expected to leave 400 tip.

Scams, exercise a level of common sense and be alert. It is not a major problem, but it happens. You might be short-changed, you might be overcharged for taxis, you might be pick-pocketed, you might be told a tourist attraction is closed and taken instead to some market (a favourite in BKK), you might be sold some trinket for 10 times its worth, you might end up paying thousands for a "free" sex show. So keep your wits about you, don't flash cash, jewellery, expensive watches and phones. Leave such things in the room safe. Don't put valuables in your back pocket.

If you are going to rent a jetski or a scooter, they love to ask for your passport as collateral. And then you might just end up with a large charge for "damage". Pay up or you don't get your passport. You will then have to negotiate your way out of it, pay, or get the police involved. Best, never leave your passport with anyone. Renting a scooter is quite popular, but I would suggest avoiding it. It is officially illegal to ride a scooter without a *motorcycle* license and a helmet, even if they don't ask you for one when you rent it. The roads are crazy and you might end up riding drunk also.

The police is "subsidised" by everyone else doing business and making money in Pattaya, so don't expect any particular favours. They will be sure to pull you over to check your license and fine you for not having a helmet, all the while dozens of Thais without helmets are riding around you. The regular police will be helpful if being unhelpful would end up causing them more trouble later. However, you may get better assistance from the Tourist Police who are ostensibly there to help tourists. You will notice some of the officers are not Thai and they are there to create a better experience for those visiting.

General safety, you should be fine if you use common sense and not go looking for trouble. Thais tend to avoid conflict, so if there is any disagreement, smile and talk it out politely. Saving face is very important for them, so don't try to humiliate or publicly show they did something wrong. Remember you are not in your own country.

No matter what, do not get into a physical altercation!! I cannot stress that enough. I have seen a 7 ft muscle-bound jock be kicked in the head by a 5 ft Thai bouncer, and that during the milliseconds it took another 5 or 6 Thais to appear and beat him until the police arrived.

In reality, you are more likely to have issues with groups of drunk guys from your own / other countries. Everyone is in Pattaya to have a good time, but machismo is unfortunately live and well, and alcohol does not help. Walk away, defuse the situation.

Member #4626

10-01-17, 04:33

Hi all,

This is part 2, following on from my previous post, this one is about Pattaya logistics.
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Thanks for very useful information for Pattaya newbees. Much appreciate it.

Arrived in Pattaya yesterday and I can really use a lot of these info / tips.6

Mr Enternational

10-01-17, 06:18

One of my buddies was itching to get to Misty's so we went ahead and left the other two guys in Sapphire. As soon as we walked in I saw a chick across the room in regular clothes drinking a beer. I went straight for her. Turns out she is friends (even though she spoke of her as her mother) with a mamasan there and came to visit, but the lady was not there. She said when she first came to Pattaya 5 years ago she worked at a bar on Soi 6 for 2 weeks when a guy from England came and saved her and started taking care of her. I do not know when that fell off, but she claims to work at a hotel in Jomtien now.

I ordered a cider and my buddy ordered a Schweppes. The girl was between us. Later on she was telling me how they kept asking her if she knew me and she said yes. Otherwise if I would have left out with her they would have wanted a barfine. (Sidenote: Friday I got a chick off Wechat that works freelance at a bar on Drinking Street. She said she goes there whenever she wants to but do not serve customers as the employees of the bar, but a guy has to pay a barfine if he wants her to leave with him.) At this point the manager started bringing us free drinks. She told me that she had 3 bottles of liquor saved at Lucifer but would have to go to her friend's bar on Soi 7 to get the ticket.

Meanwhile my buddy was playing wildly with a naked chick. There is a little sticky rubber thing that you throw at the chick's bare private parts. Damn Thailand. He decided to barfine the chick and go back to his condo. I had messaged a guy that I met last week and told him to come through Misty's. Right after my other friend left he showed up. I told him that we had to go get the ticket and to meet us at Lucifer in 30 minutes.

When we got to the bar on Soi 7 it was almost closing time. My girl got the ticket and two of her friends said they would come along shortly with a guy from Switzerland who was courting the best looking one. We got to Lucifer and they brought one of the bottles out along with mixers and ice which I paid 400 baht for. I noticed on the electronic billboard that they now have a VIP card. I asked the waitress about it and she showed me the menu where every drink purchased with a VIP card is 30 baht less. The VIP card is 300 baht, so it pays for itself in 10 drinks. I had her take me to the service desk and sign me up.

Meanwhile, my buddy was fucking with a chick from the table next to ours. When I got back from getting my VIP card my girl started going on about how the chick my buddy is with keeps looking at me and I can go with her if I want. I am like what the fuck? It was time for more mixers and when the bill came I remembered my new VIP card and tried to whip it out. My girl kept saying not to worry because the guy from Switzerland was paying for it. I said I don't give a fuck we can still get it for less. She insisted though. She still kept going on about that other chick. When the first bottle was empty they asked the waitress to bring the second. I said hell no that is enough. It was damn near 5 am. My girl said let's go then. Cool.

As we rode down Pattaya Tai, she wanted me to stop at the market for food. I said fuck that. Then she kept saying that she wants to go home. I said no way; you are coming to my place. We got to my place and she still kept talking about going home. We got in the room and got undressed and took showers then she started putting her clothes back on saying she was going home. I said fuck it then and put on my clothes and walked her outside. I jumped on my bike and went to Flexx to get another chick. This is why you do not stay out all night letting chicks get drunk.

Last night she hit me up saying that her friend reserved a VIP booth at Lucifer and asked if I wanted to come. I told her hell no. Next time I see her I do not want her to be drinking. I want her sober. She was going to come spend today with me and do couple stuff, but my chick from last night just left not long ago. Report on that coming soon.The story above happened in June. A couple of days later we went to the movies together and I dropped her off at home after. She said she would come spend the night the next day. The next day comes and I did not contact her. I probably contacted her a couple of days later. She said that she had been sick. Hmm. I am getting sick too. As a matter of fact I was getting terribly sick. Coughing like never before, chills, pools of sweat in my bed at night. Eventually I had to start sleeping with a towel wrapped around my body and change towels in the middle of the night. Chicks that I know would come take care of me the nights I felt like being bothered. I went to my doctor and got an injection and a slew of medicine. 3 days later I went back to the States still sick and crazy coughing. It continued almost 1 month when I finally went to my doctor there and he said it was probably too cold in the movie theater. I told him it sure was. He said to bring a jacket next time. He gave me injections and medicine and it cleared up from there.

Since I have been gone the chick has been saying how much she missed me and whatever asking when I would return. I come back last weekend and went to 808 with my brother and the chick he had wifed up since it was his last day. I told the chick from before that I was back and in 808 and to come. I thought she was on her way but soon she sent a message asking where I was. I told her I was waiting for her in 808. She told me to come to iBar because she was too drunk. So we headed to iBar. On the way out of 808 I met one more chick that was coming in. I stopped to talk to her and got her Line. (The next report will be about this chick.).

Got to iBar and my girl was with 2 chicks, an older lady that appeared to be a mamasan, and a tomboy. I ordered drinks for me, my brother, his girl, and my girl. She told me to buy drinks for the other people to. I said no way. I am not about to fuck the other people. The tomboy ordered a drink and I decided to pay for that. My girl was saying how her friend liked my brother but he had brought someone with him. It was about 3:30 am and my brother had to head back to his hotel to get ready because he would be leaving for the airport soon. About 4 am I told my girl let's go ahead and go to the room. Do you know that biotch told me 3000 baht! Talking about you know Pattaya lady working. I didn't say anything. I just walked out. Two days later she sent a message asking how I was doing. I said good, but I do not have 3000 baht. She said LOL and that has been that.

I left iBar and went back to 808 to find someone. Things had dwindled down so I headed to Flexx. I ran into the girl from earlier at 808. I told her to come with me but she wanted to stay there drinking. I finally said fuck it. I am taking my ass home. I walked out the door and down the steps. There was a chick about to go up the steps and I grabbed her by the arm and turned her around to come with me. She said she wanted to go in the club and party and would get with me the next day. I said fuck that. The next day is now. The sun is about to come up. You need to come with me. We had a jolly good time until the next afternoon when I had to leave to do some things. I dropped her off at her room which is really close to me. 1000 baht.

Mr Enternational

10-01-17, 06:57

Finally got the chick from 808 to come over after a few days of I don't know what the fuck she was doing. She was looking good. She told me to go take a shower. I went in and came out nekkit. She took her clothes off and I started sucking on titties and fingering her. Then she started fingering herself. I could not wait to get inside of that wet pussy. I waited for the blowjob to start. But it didn't. So I finally push her head down and say go ahead and get started. Then she starts saying that she does not suck dick. I thought I was hearing things. Usually you do not have to say anything. A chick just automatically does it. She said she has a problem with her throat because she smokes. I said smoking should make it easier to do.

I have never met a chick that smokes that does not suck dick. 27 years ago a guy I was in the navy with said that all chicks that smoke suck dick, but not all chicks that suck dick smoke. That mf Boone had been 99.99999% right. This day, the .00001% bodyslammed his Relative Theory of Blowjobs from Smokers.

I gave her the third degree. How do you expect to be a hooker and you can't do a simple blowjob. The time to say that you did not suck dick was before you came all the way over here; or better yet, the day I met you in 808. But I guess she was just going to try to sneak that one pass. I told her that if she could not suck dick then she had to get the fuck up out of this room. To tell the truth I am not even a big blow job guy. I can take it or leave it. But it is the principle of the thing. It is like a hotel maid that says she will not empty the trash. A blowjob is next to handjob on the simple task list for hookers.

She got dressed then asked for taxi money. I gave her 100 baht. She protested for more. I said I should not be giving you anything. When I walk into a Mexican restaurant they bring the chips and salsa with the menu. If I order something out of the menu and they say they do not have it then any tip I leave when walking out should be appreciated. They don't start telling me how much I have to pay for the chips and salsa. Bioch if you had what I needed then I would have been paying for a full meal. Ain't my fault your hore inventory is fucked up. She finally picked up the 100 baht and I walked her out.

Mogwai

10-01-17, 09:38

Getting around Pattaya, take the "baht bus". Tuk tuks that make a circle on Beach Rd and Second Rd (Sai Song). Just wait on the side of the road and some of them will honk to get your attention; wave and they will stop. Jump in the back and ring the buzzer when you want to get off. Cost is 10 baht. Have some coins handy otherwise you run the risk of getting back a handful of 1 baht coins as change or no change at all.
Please be aware that the baht buses are not allowed anymore to stop just anywhere. These days there are designated bus stops for them.
However some drivers ignore them and will stop anywhere.

http://www.pattayamail.com/news/pattaya-scrambles-build-stops-authorities-require-baht-buses-use-166117
http://www.pattayamail.com/news/pattaya-repaints-bus-stops-no-parking-zones-161156

And by the way: a tuk tuk is not the same as a baht bus. Just google it.

Uncle Volodya

10-01-17, 13:22

. Things had dwindled down so I headed to Flexx. I ran into the girl from earlier at 808. I told her to come with me but she wanted to stay there drinking. I finally said fuck it. I am taking my ass home. I walked out the door and down the steps. There was a chick about to go up the steps and I grabbed her by the arm and turned her around to come with me. She said she wanted to go in the club and party and would get with me the next day. I said fuck that. The next day is now. The sun is about to come up. You need to come with me. We had a jolly good time until the next afternoon when I had to leave to do some things. I dropped her off at her room which is really close to me. 1000 baht.I'm not familiar with Flexx. Is it in the same complex as Mixx?

I may need to check it out next time I am in town (though I can skip Mixx).

Mr Enternational

10-01-17, 14:13

I'm not familiar with Flexx. Is it in the same complex as Mixx?No. It is behind McDonald's and upstairs from Subway.

PyroPyotr

10-01-17, 15:29

If any one here will be in Pattaya between 12-30 December, it might be interesting to meet over a few beers. Cheers!

NomadicYardie

10-01-17, 23:15

Finally got the chick from 808 to come over after a few days of I don't know what the fuck she was doing. She was looking good. She told me to go take a shower. I went in and came out nekkit. She took her clothes off and I started sucking on titties and fingering her. Then she started fingering herself. I could not wait to get inside of that wet pussy. I waited for the blowjob to start. But it didn't. So I finally push her head down and say go ahead and get started. Then she starts saying that she does not suck dick. I thought I was hearing things. Usually you do not have to say anything. A chick just automatically does it. She said she has a problem with her throat because she smokes. I said smoking should make it easier to do.

I have never met a chick that smokes that does not suck dick. 27 years ago a guy I was in the navy with said that all chicks that smoke suck dick, but not all chicks that suck dick smoke. That mf Boone had been 99.99999% right. This day, the .00001% bodyslammed his Relative Theory of Blowjobs from Smokers.

I gave her the third degree. How do you expect to be a hooker and you can't do a simple blowjob. The time to say that you did not suck dick was before you came all the way over here; or better yet, the day I met you in 808. But I guess she was just going to try to sneak that one pass. I told her that if she could not suck dick then she had to get the fuck up out of this room..A working girl who managed to get customers and not give head? Wow now that's a new one, also nice to see another sailor on these forums. Funny I remember prior to WestPac hearing stories about Thailand. I thought they were all bullshitting but turns out it was all true LOL.

PhilAndererer

10-02-17, 09:53

If any one here will be in Pattaya between 12-30 December, it might be interesting to meet over a few beers. Cheers!Visiting between 8-18 December.

Mr Enternational

10-02-17, 13:39

I was at the market hanging out with friends yesterday when one mentioned going to Walking Street later on at 11:30. I said I would go ahead and meet him there. At 8 pm we all left and I went by my main chick's place. (I was dealing with her in February and March. I stopped talking to her in May because she kept saying that she had something to tell me but didn't want me to get angry and she never told me. The other day I went up to her job to ask if she was married yet, and what did I see. One in the oven; almost done. She said she was 6 months along (looks 7) and it was from the guy after I stopped dealing with her. That shit don't add up though. I know that pregnant pussy is the best that you can get so I get back in the door. I was fucking later that night. She treats me like a king, but for some reason I never trusted that I would be the only one, and I told her up front that she would not be the only one. So who am I to be upset that she is pregnant? All I can say is that women do stupid shit. No way I would get knocked up by just anybody. And to get knocked up by a fugitive from the US that gets someone else knocked up the next month but lives with and off of another lady and has to exist in Thailand by selling marijuana, all I can do is shake my damn head.).

She cooked dinner and pussy was for dessert. My specialty is hitting it from the side and rubbing on her belly. (She just left the doctor and said the baby is healthy and strong because I fed him with protein.) After that special dessert we went to the shower where she washed me like a new born baby. Then we got back into the bed and she started massaging me. I could have just fallen off to sleep right there. It took everything I had to get up and out of there so I could go home and change my clothes to head to Walking Street.

I got to P72 at 11:40 and my buddy was still not there. I stayed 1 hour watching people pass and as soon as I was getting ready to leave he shows up. We sat there another hour then he asked if I wanted to go see what was going on in 808. I said sure. When we walked in the first person I saw was the one I wrote the last report on; the chick that does not suck dick. I smiled at her then when me and my friend ordered drinks I sent her a San Mig Light. It was 1:30 and there were not many people inside yet. The next person I saw was a chick we had seen walking down the street earlier. She got our attention because she had on some high ass heels and we were like how does she even walk with those shoes. A lot of women just refuse to be comfortable. So I struck up a conversation with her. Something about her screamed Soi 6.

I thought about putting her under wraps for the night. Just then I looked to my right. Right there next to me was one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen. She looked Brazilian to me. Later on she said many times when people in her town see her they call her Indian. She looks nothing like you would think of when you hear the word Thai. Plus she had a nice set of tits! How the fuck did I not see her before? I immediately stopped talking to the other girl and slid over to her. She was with an older lady. We got to talking and she was from Sisaket and had no kids. She was staying at a friend (that is married with a European) on the dark side. Her friend invited her to town because she was going to open up a bar but since there are not many tourists here the friend decided against it after she arrived. The older lady had come from Phuket for the same reason and it was her first time in Pattaya. She asked what about the lady I was with. I said shit I don't know her. We were just talking.

Things were going swell. I offered to buy her a drink but she declined. She said she had to go over to iBar because a friend who had married a guy and moved to England was there waiting for her. They had not seen each other in 5 years. We exchanged numbers and Line IDs but I told her I knew it would be no way I would hear from her. She said that she is a woman of her word. One interesting thing was that when I put my Line in her phone there were no other conversations with guys. Only women. And she brought it to my attention because she saw all the women in mine. I accused her of having a second phone, because there was no way she did not have 1000 guys at the tips of her fingers. She left and sent me a message and pictures as soon as she got to iBar saying that she was a woman of her word. My buddy was about to head home and I figured I would do the same.

Just then a guy from my hometown came up to me. I was like what the fuck. He was with 3 other guys that I knew so I decided to stay. We took turns buying rounds and checking out the ladies. Now the club was in full swing. The chick that I was talking to earlier with the heels was sitting at a table and guess who was with her now. A bunch of chicks from Soi 6. I fucking knew it. Later on one chick came up to me when she was leaving out and said I know you. I said you don't damn know me. She said yes I do. Then she took out her phone and went to Facebook Messenger. I knew for sure she didn't know me then because I don't have chicks on my facebook like that. Then she pulled up some pictures from the night before when I was at Red Point Bar on Soi 6. All I could do was laugh.

ManOfMystery

10-03-17, 07:25

I arrived very late Saturday night in Pattaya (technically like 3:30 am Sunday). In these first couple of days I am very surprised at how empty Pattaya is. Despite my late arrival, my regular girl met me and we hit up Marine club (I think that was the name). My first time there. Not too crowded, but it was like 4:30 already when we got there. Lots of ladyboys and older women. Sunday night I hit up Walking Street. I went into the club Tryst. I don't think I've seen an agogo with more average looking girls. No one stood out as far as looks or a kicking body, but none were really unattractive or heavy either. Just very average. I went by Baccara. I can't remember the last time I was there, but always read on the forum that they have top quality, albeit with a preference for Asian guys. For sure there was good talent but no one really stood out to me. Lots of Asian guys sitting bored around the stage and the girls weren't too energetic either. The best looking girl in the place IMO (I like petite girls with real titties) came off stage and sat next the most bored looking guy who rarely glanced up from his phone. But he had a bottle and was buying drinks I guess so therein lies the draw. I'm guessing not many tourists around so maybe lots of girls are taking some time off to visit home? My regular girl has this opinion. I decided to check Sensations afterwards. Once again, the best looking and quantity of girls hands down. Of course it also is probably the most expensive. I bought a drink for a girl, nothing came of it. I used to have a girl that I would barfine each trip from Sensations, but her fun affectionate personality changed over time. She just became more business focused. Like buy me more drinks, leaving for another guy that would buy a drink, not as flirty, etc. Sensations has the hottest girls, but I don't really think it's a good place to make a real connection with a chick. Perhaps for others this is a different case, but I'll just pop in and have a drink and move along. Been spending most of my time since with my regular girl and having a blast. Went to soi 6 yesterday afternoon. As I was doing my walk down towards Beach Road, I was thinking "hell no" for a return walk back up the soi. Not one girl even remotely caught my eye. But 2/3 of the way down, I saw my ideal style girl and quickly stopped in. After a couple drinks we went upstairs. I forget the name of the bar, but they were all wearing black tops.

Ed Setra

10-03-17, 23:20

Well, a bit of both in my experience. My impression is that they prefer to sell drinks.

I spent some time and money here at the end of August. Visited several times over a few days and I liked the place overall, but can see it is not for everyone.

More a hostess bar than a Gentleman's Club when I was there with the upstairs rooms not being used, short time rooms available across the street instead, don't know the standard of rooms but wouldn't expect much given the location. Girls get receipts when someone buys them a drink or rings the bell. LDs are about 140 and beers were about 100 but may be cheaper at happy hours.

Some of the girls enjoy their drinks here so it can get a bit raucous at times. But they look out for each other and Mammasan is on hand to stop things getting out of control. No nudity as such, but plenty of tit and ass flashing and feeling if that is your thing. I personally inspected several up close in my few days in town.

My first visit was on a late afternoon and there were only a few customers and several girls, maybe 15, mostly dressed well in party dresses. Different types and ages but a little bit milfy (positive for me). I went down the back having a look around and was attracted by the two playing pool. This turned out to be Linda and Tawn- Hohnee (or Horny as she introduced herself to me, 'Hello, I'm HORNEY'). Got a beer and started chatting to the two pool players. Fancied Linda right away. Horny was not the shy type, but friendly with it and great fun. She was ex Soi 6 and mid 30's (birthday was later in the week, 36th). Played her a couple of games of pool ('I win I suck you cock, I lose you lick my pussy. I WAN LOSE, I WAN LOSE').

An Aussie guy having a beer suggested we play them at doubles and to make it interesting we'd give them 1000 baht each if they won and they'd take off their clothes if they lost. Anyway after the game we went into the ladies toilet where they removed their dresses and pulled down their panties. Handy way of checking out the goods and I decided Horny had the nicer tits and would be my guest for some afternoon delight. Shallow or what, huh?

Mammasan (Ya or YaYa, very hot actually, an ex WS gogo mamasan so knows the way of the world) explained about the short time room across the street and no BF because of the upstairs rooms being out of commission. I suggested Horny and I go to my room which would be more comfortable (not far, just off Buakhao). No problem for her, so off we went. 1500 plus a mototaxi fare back for her. Nice girl, great fun, well trained on the 6. Full of chat and info. Suggested if looking for LT then I should return before closing time (then was around 10.30 - 11 PM) and no BF would apply.

Favourite girls during my time were Horny, Linda (whose pleasure I didn't enjoy but she was great to talk to, timing just didn't work, maybe next time), Em and Gin (who I took for LT, a bit pricey at 3000 but a fabulous body and a highly memorable athletic and slightly alcohol-fueled extended session all around my room later, but no morning after session).

Popped into the Den a few times, just for a beer on occasion and to buy the girls a few drinks too. Went the night of Horny's birthday and she seemed to make some money. She was dressed in a sash and headband with money pinned all over them. Met my Aussie pool partner a few times and had a laugh with him and his mate too. Nice guys.

I was made feel welcome by the girls and by YaYa. Although I bought some drinks for several girls, I didn't think they were too pushy for drinks all the time. Just some of the time.

I'll probably go back to see who's around next time I'm in town. The decor and ambience are very comfortable for me, and the girls were friendly and they helped me to use up some of my money too.

Banana Boi

10-04-17, 06:16

I've more or less given up on The Den after about 5 visits. I will still visit on occasion given its proximity. I have to walk through Soi 25 whenever I go to Soi Full love Inn, M Club, Bliss Lounge, etc. The girls there are mainly a bit older than I prefer and you are not guaranteed DFK and HJ when you buy a girl a lady drink. There are a couple in their early 20's but I have yet to see anyone close to a gogo quality stunner. However, that can be said about most G clubs. Some girls just sit on their asses after a drink and allow only titty and ass play. Getting them off their asses for even a lap dance is difficult for some. Sure they are fun to play pool with but that's not what I'm there to do. The kicker about The Den is the higher price for a session. All other G clubs I know follow the Soi 6 pricing structure of 300-350 barfine plus 1000 to the girl. I believe the price for a session is 2000 baht. Not sure if that includes the barfine or if that was only for the girl. For that reason I have never had a session there but I believe there are rooms in the bar.

Pipe Layer99

10-04-17, 17:20

Gotta get in touch with culture my man. Tipping in Japan is an insult. It is saying you think they do not earn enough money so they need your handouts. In essence, whereas you have been insulting them all the while, you are protesting by no longer pissing them off.LMAO, tell it. But will they Listen?

Pipe Layer99

10-04-17, 17:23

So I brought back a girl from Baccarat for long time since she looked sweet and I thought we might have a good time. After drinking and dancing for a little while at the Lucifer bar, or at least that is what I think the name of the bar is, we headed back to the hotel. This is my experience so far. The girl was a total disaster, and her act of trying to be PSE totally turned me. Off. I felt like being rushed and totally acted tfke. Twenty minutes in the room, I told her to, for the lack of a better word, to fuck off. I want my last night here at Pattaya to be memorable, and not to waste my time with shitty act like this.
Anyway, I texted the previous girl from last night who had provided me with a GFE experience, and I am just going to spend this night with her instead.I met you in Jakarta and you saw how I operate. Should have contacted me, you knew I was here. I could have showed you the ropes here. LOL.

Mr Enternational

10-05-17, 14:31

Brazilian sent me a message to say she was leaving iBar and asked if I wanted her to come home with me. But she wanted one of my friends to take her 45 year old friend. Shiiit that is not my problem. You can bring her and see if somebody wants to take her, but I would not bet on it. Of course nobody came all the way to Thailand for that, so she put her friend on a motorbike taxi and came with me.

We got to the room and took showers and laid in the bed. She started talking about how she was going to get some kind of treatment for her hair the next day. We started kissing and shit and I was waiting for her to go down on me. Tick tock, tick tock. I had to tell her to go ahead and suck my dick. She said that she didn't suck dick. What the fuck. I need to play the lottery. I can't believe this shit is happening. Twice in a damn row. But this chick was so damn beautiful I really didn't care.

I did come up with a plan though. Whenever you have a drop dead gorgeous chick like that you want to do the nastiest shit you can think of with her so that if you never see her again your image will be burned in her mind forever. And you will always grin when you think of the shit you did to her. I mean I fucked the dogshit out of this chick every which way but loose. I was pulling her hair, slapping her on the ass, but she took pause when I slapped her on the face. LOL. I said just playing baby. And back to fucking her. When I was ready to cum I told her you did not suck my dick so I am going to finish on your face. She told me no to finish on her tits. I grabbed her hair and started jacking off in her face. Skeeted in her hair, up her nose. She said don't put it in my mouth. But her mouth was open so I skeeted it in there too and rubbed my dick on her lips. I honestly believe she wanted it in her mouth because she had it open a little bit whereas a chick that truly did not want it would have had it closed tightly.

When I finished I told her that next time I would fuck her in the ass since she did not want to suck my dick. Then I pulled her off the bed and sent her to the bathroom before she could get a chance to wipe that shit on my sheets and comforter. I was the king of the hill. I was thinking about how the shit just went and aww damn. I forgot to choke her. I should have choked her. I went and washed off and we went to sleep.

We woke up at 1 pm and before she even took a yawn she put my dick into her mouth. It felt great. I told her that I was still going to fuck her in the ass though. She said she had never done it before but she would try. I knew I had her mind then. Now she wants to act right. I grabbed some Astroglide and squeezed a couple of drops down her ass crack. Then I started rubbing it lightly and fingering her pussy with the same hand. Then I put just the tip of my finger in her ass and started moving it in circles. She was going crazy.

I got up and started fucking the shit out of her again. This time I remembered to choke her. She was loving it. I turned her over to fuck her from the back then slid my thumb in her ass. She was in ecstasy. I finished with her on top so she would believe she had the power.

We laid around a little longer then 4 pm came. I was thinking that I have been inside all day with this chick and I do not like to waste my day like that. We got up and took showers and got ready. While she was in the shower I separated 1200 baht and 500 baht in the pockets of the pants I would wear. When she got out, I got in. When I came out she was sitting on the bed with her legs crossed and said give me money now. I told her that I would give it to her when we got to her friend's house on the dark side. She said she was scared that I would pull off when she got off the bike without giving her money. All I could do it laugh. I told her that I understand she needs money and I would never do that.

As we rode it started sprinkling. I had left my poncho in the room. Shit. I asked her about getting her hair done. She said if she gets it normal then it is 200 baht, but if she gets that treatment she wanted it is 399 baht. Kept driving then got to her friend's house. We both got off the bike. I reached in my pocket and pulled out the 1200 baht and gave it to her. She was so happy. She said now she could get her hair done. I said no. That money is for you. I reached in for the other 500 and said this is to get your hair done (least I could do for baby battering it up). She was ecstatic then. I kissed her goodbye and told her that I would see her again soon. (Just talked to her a while ago and told her I would go out with my friends and she could come over after that.).

Gin And Tonic

10-06-17, 06:08

Monger652

10-06-17, 20:48

I contacted an unofficial but legitimate source (name withheld) to get some information on whether the Pattaya bars will be closed on Oct 26, the day of the King's cremation. Still nothing definitive, but the outlook suggests closed bars.

Quote: "At present, we have no official information. But since the 26th is the declared holiday (cremation day), it is highly likely there will be a ban. If we receive any credible information, we will post it. I have had a numbers of bars and other business that have said they would be close that day."

For comparison, the bars were closed last October on the day of the king's death.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3838931/Bangkok-grinds-halt-thousands-mourners-line-streets-mark-passing-Thai-king-British-tourists-complain-news-red-light-district-shut-MONTH.html

I was planning on visiting Pattaya on an extended stopover Oct 25-Oct 27.

Should I cancel my plans an visit another city (Singapore, KL) on my stopover instead?

Or can I expect the night of the 25th to be enough to justify a stopover?

LittleBigMan

10-07-17, 03:14

Lucky Nuts

10-07-17, 04:51

So the best you did was thumb fuck her ass? Sorry, that's a fail to me.I am humored by how confrontational are some posts LOL. Hey at least he choked her. And wrote up a nice report for our enjoyment. Give the man his due.

Banana Boi

10-07-17, 05:24

Syzygies

10-07-17, 08:20

Uncle Volodya

10-07-17, 08:39

LittleBigMan

10-07-17, 15:02

New gogo bar opening beside Yes! Agogo. It will be called Center Club and it's located in the Soi Diamond arcade just off Walking Street. It's great to see space that has been uninhabited for years opening up as gogo bars.

There is also a new gogo bar opening up beside Touch's new bar in LK metro. It is called Chaos Bar.

Still not open but it looks like a gogo bar with solid walls as opposed to glass walls. Time will tell.

Tried uploading some photos but I guess file size is too large.L.

I can't complain about Go Go being opening since they seem to close fast at times. I've been to Yes only once the old SuperBaby location and it was empty walked out but will return soon for a second look. I saw last Monday when I walk by Center but no name up at that time and saw the work being done. This stretch of clubs closed I use to play softball with the owner, later he got lucky and off loaded to another sucker who name it Maxine Go Go or something. I think it was open for shorter than a month then try to sell it for 6 million or something. The place that cracks me up is Jessie Bar? next to Center, it has been open for 4-5 years, never ever see anyone inside another x-softball buddy place.

I saw the club sign across from Touch, Chaos, I think it is associated with the place Kaos Go Go, personally the problem I see when they open is " no nudity " But I'm thankful for the choices!

Banana Boi

10-07-17, 22:41

I've been to Yes only once the old SuperBaby location and it was empty walked out but will return soon for a second look. I'm a regular at Yes! Agogo. I see many guys walk in, buy a drink, and leave within 5 minutes since there are times when you only see 5 girls on stage and this is a large club. I'll try to explain Yes! Yes! Will always have 4 groups of dancers. 2 groups of models who dance topless with pasties. 2 other groups of regular gogo dancers. When the club is busy like it was before 11 pm tonight, there are about 15 girls per group. This number dwindles especially on a weekend night as girls get barfined. By 1 am tonight many girls had been barfined. There is a large board near the DJ and you can see how many girls are working in the bar. Many girls hide out in the change room when they don't have to be on stage. When you order a drink for a Yes! Girl they actually get to come off stage almost right away. This is a big bonus as I'm with my girls almost the entire night instead of waiting 20+ minutes like at some other bars. Even though the top 2 lookers have left Yes! There are still some very nice looking girls here. If you're looking for a missing Glass House girl, she's more than likely at Yes!

Imo this is a fun bar and void of the drunken Farang screaming at the top of their lungs like how it was at Sapphire last night.

Banana Boi

10-07-17, 22:58

Visited Kinnaree today. They had a special today with all you can eat and drink for 1400 baht. The place was packed! Any decent looking girl was taken and there wasn't a seat in the entire club. Someone please warn me when one of these events occur again. Will definitely save me some time.

Decided to hit Soi 6 around 4 pm. Lots of girls around but there was nothing special I had to go with. There was one girl at Butterfly Bar who I liked but she clearly wasn't interested in me or my buddy since she head turned us twice! I did have a drink with a nice girl named Apple who I may see in the future. Forgot the name of her bar.

LittleBigMan

10-08-17, 02:14

I'm a regular at Yes! Agogo. I see many guys walk in, buy a drink, and leave within 5 minutes since there are times when you only see 5 girls on stage and this is a large club. I'll try to explain Yes! Yes! Will always have 4 groups of dancers. 2 groups of models who dance topless with pasties. 2 other groups of regular gogo dancers. When the club is busy like it was before 11 pm tonight, there are about 15 girls per group. This number dwindles especially on a weekend night as girls get barfined. By 1 am tonight many girls had been barfined. There is a large board near the DJ and you can see how many girls are working in the bar. Many girls hide out in the change room when they don't have to be on stage. When you order a drink for a Yes! Girl they actually get to come off stage almost right away. This is a big bonus as I'm with my girls almost the entire night instead of waiting 20+ minutes like at some other bars. Even though the top 2 lookers have left Yes! There are still some very nice looking girls here. If you're looking for a missing Glass House girl, she's more than likely at Yes!

Imo this is a fun bar and void of the drunken Farang screaming at the top of their lungs like how it was at Sapphire last night.Thanks for the information, very helpful. The reason I just walked in one night actually took a peep was I was heading to another club, it was really early a bit after 8 pm. But to be honest I felt it was another Agency club without any nudity. I will have to make more time that is for sure.

I agree with you about Sapphire, after they renovated the place years back they had free food Thursday night which brought in all the balloon chaser. Then something happen he must have been advertising to the sport crowd that love Rugby? To me it is a reverse of a place like Bacarra who basically cater to Asians. Don't get me wrong I can get along with anyone but some of these guys seem to have been caged up too long? I used to check out Sapphire on Sunday since they had a good Happy Hours drinks till late but no nudity! Sapphire is like another Sensation?

The day you don't want to go the most to Kinnaree is Saturday, majority of the guys that go that day go for the food. The regulars go early for the girls then wait for the food. They also do some type of food on Wednesday and Sunday which isn't as popular and crowded which don't bring as many girls. There are two that work at What's Up at night that work particularly on Saturdays. Guys that go on Saturday go for the pork ribs.

XXL

10-08-17, 17:07

A small cluster of Malagasy girls on Beach road opposite LK Empress at 7:30 pm. Not bad looking at all. I took the number of one of them who quoted me 1 k for ST and 3 k for LT (the latter negotiable it seemed). She told me to get in touch around midnight for LT. Her name is sara. For my tastes those brownies were the most sex-appealing Beach road had to offer.

Raven27

10-08-17, 17:21

Hey folks,

Glad to be writing here my first report.

I have been researching this forum since quite a long time and now finally have planned a trip to pattaya.

I would be coming to pattaya next weekend and intend to stay dere for a week.

Would be surely on my way to check WS Gogo's, freelancers on beach road as well.

My nationality is indian but eventually I hail hail from Middle East with quite good and strong looks, just wanted to ask will there be any issues regarding my entry in any particular club?

Request all the seniors or bro's to kindly suggest.

Also would be glad to meet any mongers from the forum " drinks on me ".

May be we can tag along too!

Adios,

Raven.

Lanthano

10-08-17, 21:30

Hi everyone,

I have just returned from my second trip of two weeks in Pattaya.

As others have realized in past years better than I have, a lot can change in 12 months. No doubt about it, pattaya is changing and is getting pricier.

The notable victim is the beer bars, which had very slim pickings largely while I was there. It seems as if there might be a turn in Pattaya dynamics: that the younger working girls may be opting more towards flexible freelancing rather than hanging around some bar all day, and that the women in the bars choose it for the regular minimum income to send home.

The quality seems to have gone down compared to this time last year. I spent many a night fishing through and in many finding absolutely nothing worthwhile. The number of girls in general seemed to be less. I thought this might have been due to a bit of leftover nostalgia from last year, but other people with me confirmed the same impression. Minimum barfines have all gone up to 400 from what I could see.

This trip apart from a few exceptions in the night bazaar beer garden, I stuck with soy 7.

Alcatraz Gogo bar is now gone. In general, I don't see the point of Gogo bars anymore for mongering. Why spend 5000 to 6000 baht (long time) for girls that don't look that much better than elsewhere, just because she's dancing and shows a bit of flesh? Yes, there are exceptions of absolute stunners in some of the gogos in walking street, but there the price is upwards of what I've mentioned. It seems to me that the gogos are for a show and entertainment (as well as cheap beer) more than for actually getting a girl for the night. If this trend continues, which it may will, eventually I suspect noone will bother with them anymore.

To my surprise, the gogos around LK metro are not really than much cheaper than walking street (despite the quality of girls being worse): 1000 to 1500 barfine, 3000-4000 long time. And the Office is now terrible, so despite what I said last year, don't bother this year.

Soy 6: Short time upstairs for 1300 baht. Barfines for long time can vary based on the time of evening.

A place I never really spent a lot of time in last year was Insomnia, which is a matter of taste. Many on here may hate it and not fancy the loud music and staying up till 5-6 am.

I personally found it to be a goldmine: I took 3 girls from here and found it to be the best overall deal of 1000 to 2000 baht longtime, all subject to your negotiating skills. It seemed to me that the hottest girls in all of the city congregate here at the end of the day. Got a gold card and I was all set. Plus I enjoy clubbing while on holiday.

All in all, I still enjoyed my time here a lot. Only 1 dud (girl I sent home because she didn't deliver and managed to frustrate me by refusing to do things).

Things to try to avoid the escalating prices and smaller selection in the bars:

Tinder, Thai friendly and other apps.

Below you will find my impressions and guide from last year:

"Amazing and I am not sure if there is another place like it. I hope to be corrected. To me it seems a marvel for the sex industry, with its concentration and openness seemingly unparalled with something for every taste.

I remember initially when I naively asked a few weeks ago on this forum where the action was. The answer for Pattaya seems to be everywhere. I have never seen a place like this where the sex industry essentially dominates and is omnipresent (a regular nonworking Thai girl I met in Bangkok angrily referred to it literally as « Sex City » when I mentioned I was going there). However omnispresent, however large the choices, some judgement is needed on where to go and where to stay.

I personally took the Intimate Hotel in Central Pattaya (Soi 14) which in retrospect was a good choice, though I am curious about others on an equal standard for my next trip. The city is sufficiently small that one could walk to the major areas from other places. Transport options are motorbike taxis, usually for 50 or 60 baht to get from say, Walking Street to Soy Pukhao. The baht buses usually have a fixed route along a main road (Thanon) costing 10 baht wherever you get off.

Beach Road runs along the sea. Second Road is the parallel next road which should be the spine of ones ventures into Pattaya's nightlife. The Sois run on both sides. A map however is useful. The furthermost West side of Beach Road brings one to Walking Street which I think is a worthy place to start.

-Walking Street: Longer and with many more Gogo Bars than its equivalent in Phuket (Bangla Road in Patong). On my first night I couldn't believe it how many there were. I must have been in most of them, and my particular favourites would be: Peppermint, Baccara, HappyAgogo, Alcatraz. The side street to left going down (Soi Pattaya 15 on the map) has Windmill and BabyDolls agogo, as well as my personal more expensive favorite, Whats Up, which well, is in my opinion, the higher scale of what is available. These are by far not the only ones, but the ones that left an impression. As has been written, the prices on Walking Street are very high. Barfines of 800 to 1000 baht, then often Short Time prices of 2000 or 3000 Long Time. This is the most touristy part of Pattaya so I guess it is to be expected. Crowds every night of Chinese package tourists, and Japanese. Gogobars were open till 3 am from what I could see.

Walking Street of course has Insomnia and Ibar, which I admit that I only spent once inside of. I probably should give it another chance some other time. This nightclub has a number of freelancers, which skips the barfine cost, but then, I suppose the rest depends on what you can negociate.

-Beer Bars: These are everywhere and were my preferred venues. Barfines of 300 to 500, Long Time 1500 around. Pattaya is jampacked with these and they seemed to be open very late, lights on or off. Some do not close at all, proven by me hanging around one till 6 am one morning, and after realizing (I was slow) that the girl I was talking to was available, took an early morning pickup that I never forgot. Though you probably would find them if you had both your eyes gouged out, the areas I'the mention are Soi 10 opposite the Bay Breeze Hotel and a massive garden just behind the Pattaya Night Bazaar following through all the way to the next parallel road.

-Massage parlors: Literally everywhere and chances are the girls will be harassing you throughout your stay to come. Soy Honey is known amongst others for these.

-Soy Pukhao / LK Metro: Go here. Follow Second Road's Soi 13 all the way down, and you'll see that this is another major centre. To the left, near the LK Metropolitaine hotel after which the area is named, is a winding road which contains a number of gogo bars (the Office and Sugar Bar being good ones), clubs, beer bars which is less frequented by the tourists, a square of roads.

Soi Langkee which has some blowjob bars, including the conspicuous LaPoste is here, open during the daytime.

Much further down Second Road:

Soy 6 : Open during the day. Useful given that Pattaya is a place that elsewhere only seems to get going around 8-9 pm. Has bars all along the road that offer Short time 1400 I think, with upstairs rooms. Or Barfines of 500 around. Some bars offer much higher bar fines starting at a 1000 for earlier in the day that go down to 500 by 10 pm.

Soy 7 : Great beer bar street full of girls.

Soy 8 : less stuff available, some beer bars though. The notable entry here is the Silverstar Gogo bar, which is good for a pop-in to see if you like it. Full nudes, nice girls, ping pong stuff. Not for everyone.

I felt safe wherever I was, and never felt I was in danger of being robbed or attacked. The people are great, the service of the girls, in general, amazing. Though I would put the caveat that you shouldn't always take the best looking one, looking for some interest on her side, to avoid kicking her out when she turns out to not provide any service back in the room. Pattaya is the place and I'm glad I discovered it finally. ".

Lanthano

10-08-17, 21:33

Banana Boi

10-08-17, 21:55

My nationality is indian but eventually I hail hail from Middle East with quite good and strong looks, just wanted to ask will there be any issues regarding my entry in any particular club?

From recent reports I believe Baccara is the only bar with reported issues with Indians. FWIW, saw 2 clean cut Indians having a great time with a couple of girls at Infinity tonight. Not the top girls there but they seemed to be enjoying themselves.

XXL

10-09-17, 04:20

Syzygies

10-09-17, 07:39

Total dammage 2 k. She's basically a nice girl but with appallingly few fucking skills. Sara told me she would not have owned up to being fom Madagascar had I not addressed her in French. According to Sara a group of black girls in walking street purporting to be from Kenya are in fact from Uganda. Not that it matters much to us mongers. The Kenyans / Ugandans quoted me a rate of 2 k for ST and 4 k for LT. My falling back on black pussy so early on is not a good omen for my upcoming retirement in Thailand but wait and see.They probably think Kenyan girls are higher class. Generally I have preferred Kenyan and Ghana girls for looks. Did a very pretty girl born in Europe with Kenyan background recently. Did another from Ghana (less pretty) but a very good BBBJ and tight pussy. Can't remember ever taking a Uganda girl and I do find most black girls in Thailand to be somewhat sub-standard for body and face. Madagascar girls are likely prettier too (generalising).

Mr Enternational

10-09-17, 16:03

Total dammage 2 k. She's basically a nice girl but with appallingly few fucking skills. Sara told me she would not have owned up to being fom Madagascar had I not addressed her in French. According to Sara a group of black girls in walking street purporting to be from Kenya are in fact from Uganda.Those chicks always tell me they are from Madagascar (before I speak to them in French) or Uganda, although a chick talking to my buddy in 808 last week claimed to be from Lille, France. I have never heard any of them claim to be from Kenya. None of them even look close to Kenyan IMHO. It has been my experience that the fat ones with big tits are from Uganda and the slimmer mixed looking ones are from Madagascar.

Blanquiceleste

10-09-17, 16:08

Raven27

10-09-17, 16:21

This isn't a report. This is just another post begging for help. Don't fool yourself.Hey bud,

Seems you have mistaken someone who is asking for suggestions to someone who is begging.

Kindly refrain from using such words and be a bit polite if you are a so called senior member here.

Cheers!

Raven.

Franga

10-09-17, 16:54

I had a Mada chick on Beach Rd tell me that she was from Mauritius initially, but on further interrogation admitted she was from Madagascar. Paid her 600 baht ST, and was not a good performer. Next Mada chick I took was quite pretty but couldn't do doggy very well. Paid her 700 baht ST. 3rd Mada chick I took was a fantastic looker and she quoted 1000 baht ST, which I gladly paid. She was not a great performer, but passable.

Mongers should stick to Thai pricing for these Mada Chicks on Beach Rd. Assess their quality, and offer between 500 baht (basic looks and body) and 1000 baht (top notch quality). Same as what I would do for all the Thai chicks.

I also had a chick from Mauritania once. It looked like she had nice tits when she had all her clothes on, but back in the room after stripping off she didn't have any. Completely flat. Not a good performer. Paid her 800 baht from memory.

Crazy4Thai

10-10-17, 14:24

Hey bud,

Seems you have mistaken someone who is asking for suggestions to someone who is begging.

Kindly refrain from using such words and be a bit polite if you are a so called senior member here.

Cheers!

Raven.My kind suggestion is that you read these entries in the blog for Indian mongers in Thailand.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3759-Advice-for-Indians-visiting-Thailand

If you do not find what you need there feel free to PM me.

Cheers!

XXL

10-10-17, 17:45

A 20 year old at the beer bar on the turning right outside walking street quoted me 2 k for ST, which I declined. She didn't sound as though she could agree to 1 k.

I brought an over 30 from Beach Road back to my room. She had quoted 800, we agreed on 600. She was ok in bed though not a looker. She grasped my hand, holding on to me for dear life while we walked the 200 metres or so to the hotel. This made me slightly uncomfortable. I'd much rather we walked side by side or she in tow. It's not as though she was overly girl friendly overall because as soon as I'd paid her she could'nt wait to get the hell out of dodge, not even bothering to return my small talk. Something funny happened in the room. She'd switched on the tv of her own accord without asking permission (I hate tv) but as she was going down on me footage of the royal ceremony appeared. She rushed to change the channel. My partying girl in Jakarta had been less respectful back then when we'd gone "extasy wahbar" in response to the muezzin's call to prayer.

I had the feeling Beach Road girls were not too keen on exchanging phone numbers.

Raven27

10-10-17, 18:21

My kind suggestion is that you read these entries in the blog for Indian mongers in Thailand.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3759-Advice-for-Indians-visiting-Thailand

If you do not find what you need there feel free to PM me.

Cheers!Thanks a ton mate!

Smoothy

10-10-17, 21:08

Something funny happened in the room. She'd switched on the tv of her own accord without asking permission (I hate tv) but as she was going down on me footage of the royal ceremony appeared. She rushed to change the channel. My partying girl in Jakarta had been less respectful back then when we'd gone "extasy wahbar" in response to the muezzin's call to prayer.LOL. That's a good one. Now that you mention it, I wouldn't mind getting a BJ while watching that ceremony.

XXL

10-11-17, 04:59

The alternative answer is RTFF. Read the fucking forum.Some people might be confused by that phrase. They might wonder "where is that particular forum?" (the one about fucking as opposed to about hotels, rates, politics etc.).

XXL

10-12-17, 16:56

ScottoD

10-13-17, 01:51

Wish I was read reports on this forum more often, the problem is I have been doing back to back traveling so its hard to plan perfectly. (I do find this forum hard to use relative to other forums) I finished a project in Austalia, so then I went to a few countries first which also devoted my attention. I did stay at the airport (though I do agree with the advice many have given. Just already had non refundable hotel) . Immigration went smooth, hotel shuttle went smooth. Had to wait in a really long line for AIS sim card. Hotel you-Tiny Boutique, people were nice. Breakfast was decent. Room was basic but decent with nice amenities. Almost had a girl of African descent from tinder come to my room. She wanted 2500, then I thought to myself why would I not want the first girl to be Thai. So blew that off but after breakfast had a different girl come to hotel near airport. She was really nice and treated me well but was no stunner. Maybe a 6. Good tattooed body, and good fuck. Again, wasnt really worth it, should have just gotten to Pattaya earlier. But at least I got my first fuck in. Odd thng, me and the girl were waiting for the taxi and the hotel lady wanted to and did take a picture of us? Strange. Hotel was girl friendly.

I'm at the Areca. Its ok. I tried White Coramandel but it was sold out. Unfortunately I am doing everything last minute. I still do not have a room Saturday night which will either be my 3rd in Pattaya or first in Bangkok.

Walked towards Walking Street, quite far from Areca, about 15 minute walk. Walked into a GoGo bar that probably had very hot girls but I did not find out prices. Bar fine was 1000 I think. Not sure the name but there are about 4 or 5 all together, it was next to the is one called Skyfalll. Pulled a girl off the beach road, she didn't (or pretended not to) speak english. She was kind of a wham bam thank you maam but got the job done. Though I am not so sure I want to pick up from beach road again. I was trying to look at the map, and is Soi 6 the complete opposite direction of Walking Street from where I am? I'm surprised everything is so far. I took a motorbike taxi one way today and thought I was going to die. Crazy driver.

I think places may be closed today unfortunately – in which case I may have to rely on freelancers.

Are all the massage places every 5 feet where girls say "massage, massage" , are they full service? Looking for a recommendation on a soapy.

Mr Enternational

10-13-17, 03:39

I was trying to look at the map, and is Soi 6 the complete opposite direction of Walking Street from where I am? I'm surprised everything is so far. Yes, Pattaya is huge. It is not like other mongering destinations where the action is just on 1 or 2 blocks. It is all over the city. Soi 6 is in the opposite direction. Going down Beach Road you will pass Soi 8, the Soi 7, then Central Pattaya Road. After that it is still quite a walk to Soi 6/1 (stay away from there) and Soi 6 next to it.

Are all the massage places every 5 feet where girls say "massage, massage" , are they full service? Looking for a recommendation on a soapy.It depends on where you are. On certain sois they are full service. Do not pay more than 1000 baht total. In other places if you see a chick you like just whisper to her that you do not want massage, you want boom boom. If they say well go to bar or something like that say but I want to boom boom you, not girl at a bar. After that if she says no, then it is no.

There is a chick that I met on WeChat. She comes over and does massage, balls massage, and whatever that anal shit is (I don't get that though; she substitutes blow job for that) in a package for 1000 baht. I keep asking to fuck but she always tells me to go get a bar girl. Go figure. She will suck my dick and let me cum all in her mouth and let me play with her tits, but refuses to let me fuck. She says no sex service.

Banana Boi

10-13-17, 05:16

ScottoD

10-13-17, 05:46

From Areca Lodge you walk 1 minute to Soi Buakhao and there is a baht bus that takes you to South Pattaya Road and 2nd Road. Walk 1-2 minutes to Walking Street. You are also steps away from LK Metro, another gogo bar area.

From Walking Street to Areca take baht bus from Second Road and South Pattaya Road. Get off at Avenue Mall and walk up Soi 15 or get off at Kiss Restaurant on Soi Diana.

Yes, today is a National Holiday in Thailand so bars should be closed. Walking Street gogo bars will reopen at midnight. Beach Road should have a lot of FL's.Thanks Banana Boi and Mr. Enternational.

I was at Walking St yesterday so I will try LK Metro / Soi Honey for Soapie area tonight. Wondering if the Soi 6 places are closed as well today, guessing yes. Kind of rainy morning.

Maybe the FLs on Beach St will be better today since there are many ladies off from the bars.

@ Mr. Enternational - what did you mean by "stay away from there?"

ScottoD

10-13-17, 07:32

Thoughts on Honey 1 or alternatives suggested?

EihTooms

10-13-17, 08:01

Yes, today is a National Holiday in Thailand so bars should be closed. Walking Street gogo bars will reopen at midnight. Beach Road should have a lot of FL's.Maybe it is different in Pattaya but I have read and heard from girls who work in them that it will be business as usual for the bars in Bangkok, no ban on alcohol and no closures. The only thing different is they have been asked to turn the lights down lower, bring the volume of the music down (great!) and maintain a more subdued, less raucus party atmosphere on this anniversary of the King's passing.

Franga

10-13-17, 08:08

Nr 1 a total disaster. Positioned herself in doggy curving concave downwards like a she-dog. Kept giggling, keeping her crack out of reach when I wanted to take a closer look. Number 2 was ok, insisted on knowing whether I had a Thai girlfriend or intented to have one once I'm settled in Thailand.

The sildenafil was only peaking when I emerged from my 2nd session so I walked down Beach road in search of a Nr 3, only to end up with Malagasy Sara again (pic below). The sex with her was better than on the 1st time. She may have potential after all.

I was told today the only way to procure DHEA in Thailand was to get a prescription from Central Hospital. This presents me with a logistical problem if I am to settle here. To me DHEA is a bit like insulin to a diabetic. I wonder whether amazon.com would ship to Thailand.I know nothing about DHEA, but I will tell you once I tried to buy some respiratory medication at Boots Pharmacy and they told me I had to go to a doctor and get a prescription. That did not make me very happy as the last doctor I went to in Bangkok Pattaya Hospital cost me 1000 baht for a consultation.

So instead I went to my usual non-chain type pharmacy on 2nd Rd where I buy all my Kamagra from. They had the respiratory medication I wanted and didn't even come close to asking me for a doctor's prescription. This pharmacy is located just before the Avenue shopping Centre car park as you are coming from Kiss Food and Drinks, and is just before the 7/11 (or is it a Family Mart? BTW a 4 pill pack of Kamagra there sells for 200 baht.

AmericanThief

10-13-17, 08:33

Thoughts on Honey 1 or alternatives suggested?Two fish bowls. The regular girls are mostly middle aged single mothers / divorced. The "models" weren't much better, maybe no baby yet, but there's no harm in going inside and seeing for yourself. You can sit down and order a drink and really look them over. As far as service, it's a bath, soapy mattress massage and FS on the bed then finish. Sorry I don't recall the price but it's around $100.

AmericanThief

10-13-17, 08:45

I was told today the only way to procure DHEA in Thailand was to get a prescription from Central Hospital. This presents me with a logistical problem if I am to settle here. To me DHEA is a bit like insulin to a diabetic. I wonder whether amazon.com would ship to Thailand.If it's that important then go to a clinic and get a prescription. At least you know it won't be fake.

You can check GNC or Bear Gym. They sell supplements yet unregulated. Better off paying for doctor consultation and getting the real stuff.

Banana Boi

10-13-17, 11:12

"For today and today only, there will be a free taxi service operating in Pattaya from 8 am 8 pm at Pattaya City Hospital, Soi Buakao / 3rd road. ".

From Pattaya One. I bet no taxis went anywhere close to that area today.

Thoughts on Honey 1 or alternatives suggested?

Take a baht bus to Second Road and Soi 2 and walk to honey 2, Sabai Dee, Sabai Resort, and Rasputin.

Maybe it is different in Pattaya but I have read and heard from girls who work in them that it will be business as usual for the bars in Bangkok, no ban on alcohol and no closures. The only thing different is they have been asked to turn the lights down lower, bring the volume of the music down (great!) and maintain a more subdued, less raucus party atmosphere on this anniversary of the King's passing.

I would assume Pattaya will be the same then. I haven't discussed today with any girls since I'm having a wonderful time in Phnom Penh.

Christian G

10-13-17, 11:12

@ Mr. Enternational - what did you mean by "stay away from there?"He mean stay away from soi6/1 because is a small soi full of ladyboys. So if ladyboys are not what you are looking for, you do not need to go down this soi.

EihTooms

10-13-17, 11:15

Maybe it is different in Pattaya but I have read and heard from girls who work in them that it will be business as usual for the bars in Bangkok, no ban on alcohol and no closures. The only thing different is they have been asked to turn the lights down lower, bring the volume of the music down (great!) and maintain a more subdued, less raucus party atmosphere on this anniversary of the King's passing.Hey, last minute reversal from what I posted earlier. It has now been reported that Bangkok bars HAVE now received last minute closure notices for tonight until Midnight. Many bar owners in Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy were caught short on this and were already preparing for business as usual. It is possible a couple of places in those venues will quietly stay open. Strange that this was not better scheduled and planned.

XXL

10-13-17, 12:14

If it's that important then go to a clinic and get a prescription. At least you know it won't be fake.

You can check GNC or Bear Gym. They sell supplements yet unregulated. Better off paying for doctor consultation and getting the real medicalstuff.I don't mind paying for consultations. I have worldwide insurance with 80% refund on doctors' fees. I'd be more worried about the product being unavailable or the docs being uncooperative. I hope it's possible to develop some kind of relationship with doctors, provided the government doesn't keep doctors on too tight a leash. I've heard it could be near to impossible to get some drugs like a basic sleeping pill to help you sleep through a long haul flight. Recently I read about a Frenchman in Thailand being unable to find any vet willing to euthanize his terminaly ill dog. We haven't been accustomed to that degree of paranoia in Europe, at least not for patients above a certain age. The US may be different.

In unregulated outlets I'd be worried about the lack of continuous air-conditioning too.

I'm planning to have a hair transplant in Thailand before mid-2018 so a good idea would be to include regular DHEA prescriptions into the deal.

Changing the subject to soi 6/1, it is indeed a ladyboys only street but there's no need to avoid it like the plague. Female prostitutes in some countries can be a lot more pushy and physically aggressive than even ladyboys in Thailand. When walking those sois I'd be more worried about getting hit by traffic. Can one live years in Thailand without suffering some kind of road accident?

Allover

10-14-17, 00:49

Changing the subject to soi 6/1, it is indeed a ladyboys only street but there's no need to avoid it like the plague.I would recommend avoiding 6/1 like the plague. The ladyboys are very aggressive especially if they are in groups. Some of them on 6/1 and elsewhere are expert pickpockets. Why even think of going there if you are not looking for a ladyboy?

May I ask what DHEA means? I've not seen that abbreviation before.

Horatio

10-14-17, 01:19

Montani

10-14-17, 01:24

May I ask what DHEA means? I've not seen that abbreviation before.Dehydroepiandrosterone DHEA, also known as androstenolone, is an endogenous steroid hormone. It is one of the most abundant circulating steroids in humans, in whom it is produced in the adrenal glands, the gonads, and the brain, where it functions as a metabolic intermediate in the biosynthesis of the androgen and estrogen sex steroids. However, DHEA also has a variety of potential biological effects in its own right, binding to an array of nuclear and cell surface receptors, and acting as a neurosteroid and neurotrophin.

From wikipedia.

Eszpresszo

10-14-17, 04:24

I would recommend avoiding 6/1 like the plague. The ladyboys are very aggressive especially if they are in groups. Some of them on 6/1 and elsewhere are expert pickpockets. Why even think of going there if you are not looking for a ladyboy?

May I ask what DHEA means? I've not seen that abbreviation before.DHEA is a pro-hormone that occurs naturally in your body. Production of DHEA internally, declines after your 20's. It is readily available as a nutritional supplement without a prescription in the US. I can't imagine what it has to do with hair transplants. Its purpose is for anti-aging, treatment for depression or BPH, and it is thought to increase your testosterone level by preventing it from being converted into other compounds as you age. Its effects on testosterone levels makes it sought out by people who are body building or looking to increase sexual performance as they age.

Matong36

10-14-17, 07:12

I was pick pocketed by a ladyboy once. If they started grabbing at you like they want you, check your pockets.This is likely happening when you encounter the LB hugging and pulling you.

Before that happens, prevent eye contact and looking at their direction.

If they come at you, refuse them politely.

My last trip my hands were covering my pockets as she was molesting my dick from the outside, end of day my valuables are still with me.

Cheers!

ScottoD

10-14-17, 08:07

Yesterday early afternoon I went to Soi 6 for first time. Took a leisurely walk there but took Baht bus back. The Baht bus had a group of guys (presuming arab tourists) jump in and turned off Beach Road to drop them off, I hopped off and caught another. The group of guys took care of the driver so he paid me no mind and drove away, so even though we are talking about pennies, I did not have to pay twice. Not sure how to figure which buses go straight or which turn.

Anyway, despite expecting things to be closed in remembrance of the king, Soi 6 was wide open, tons of girls at each "bar". Walked by Ruby and Lisas, Lisas seemed to have good looking girls or at least the best non black uniforms but rembered reading about a not so great experience on here so skipped it, walked up and down and finally stopped to talk to a girl at Chillis, of course right away the touching and luring start, so I go in 300 to bar and 1000 for her. I guess standard.

Took me upstairs, and to the shower, basic, no shame as you walk outside the room to shower practically naked. Shower was ok, she was more attentive then the one today (next (Then we got right too it. She immediately started licking my balls, bbj and then got on top in squat position, she did reverse and then just the regular shit, took off condom, blew me again and then a little more fucking. I took a good long time to finish because it was shot 2 of the day. Paid her 1000 + 100 tip. Her name was Lot I think. Young, maybe 25, not gogo quality for sure but not bad either. I think her name was Lot or Lat.

After that I was wiped, walked around a bit, took a nap and decided to get dinner at this sushi buffet place called Tsunamis. I got there at 915 and it was closing at 10 but they didn't wanted to take any food orders after 930 - suppose to be a bufffet but you have to order plate by plate, It was 600 Baht or $18 which in US terms was ok but maybe expensive for Thailand. For $30 bucks at home there is a real buffet that blows it away and I know in Florida there are many in low $20's, so not impressed.

Ok, enough on the restaurant rant and back to mongering, as I walked back towards Areca I passed through LK Metro (around 10 pm) - it was so dark, I was literally scared walking through as it was my first time. Everything was closed. I walked a little further towards Areca and Papagayo and asked a few of the girls still sitting at the bars even though they were closed about stuff opening at 12 and everyone I asked said no, tomorrow things will open. Even though I was thinking they were wrong, I was not in mood to check so called it a night, I was ready for sleep. Still a bit jetlagged.

This morning I decided to try a massage and walked along Soi 11, tons of places but most of the girls outside were ugly. I stopped at this one called Jans right across from Honey 1, I made the newbie mistake of not being discreet when asking about boom boom. I was talking to an older woman who was either the mamasan or getting offended that I was asking about other girl. The one I thought was the best looking did not look away from her phone or make eye contact to me at all so I did not make the newbie mistake of picking her, instead I picked one at the end who gave me a subtle smile. She told me her name was Pat. Very cute face, body ok. She gave me a shitty shower that I had to ask her to join me. Then she had me lie on my back and gave me an ok oil massage, she turned me over and did the front, she than started giving me an amazing BJ that as this was my first shot of the day and being post massage made me almost finish so I had to unfortunatly cut that short. She then got on top and finished me off in unfortunately a short time but nevertheless it felt great. After she got a little cold and another shitty shower, gave her 1000 and left. Still have rest of day to enjoy and tonight I will be around LK Metro, might do a soapy.

FL Hawk

10-14-17, 08:22

Back in Pattaya! I arrived yesterday afternoon to a very quiet, but operational, Soi 6, and later to a very dead Walking Street but an active Beach Road.

I will be preparing my traditional reports soon, but will preface them by saying I just spent an interesting 3 days in Bangkok with a lady I met on Thai Cupid who would be THE perfect trophy wife. Almost. Next on the itinerary is my 10 days here in Pattaya, then it will be back to Bangkok to meet with one or two others I have met on-line for 3 days, then my last 12 or so days in Thailand will be spent with my Thai virgin GF in Phuket and possible some other places.

Just some quick observations: Rain is forecast for every day throughout the days and nights, but it has not yet interfered with me yet (for all of my 22 hours here). This morning, the forecast called for rain all day and night, but the sky stayed mostly clear in the morning, but afternoon rain seems more ominous. Who knows?

Yesterday, Soi 6 was devoid of music, but was otherwise business as usual. I will later have a report, as I said, but the only damper there was it was quiet and you could actually converse with the girls without having to shout over the loud music. I do not call that a damper. I call it welcome! Walking Street was dead. No music and the clubs and bars were mostly shuttered. There were lots of FLers out on WS as well as BR, but I did not participate. I am expecting to see things back to normal today, with the blaring and obnoxious music in full force. Pending the weather to some extent I suppose.

More later!

Raven27

10-15-17, 01:56

Hey folks!

Landed in Bangkok in evening around 5 PM, immigration was easy due to less people took cab to pattaya for my hotel was damn tired to take a baht bus due to my flight delay.

Cab took 1300 baht and dropped me had a nice shower some food and then headed out to take a stroll around, didn't head WS yet but noticed very much of less music and noise in fact Pattaya is much quieter and low and the opposite I had thought may be that's cause of king's death anniversary as some bar girl told me while I was having a drink on SOI 6.

Took a walk ahead and searched TF came across a girl naming Mickey working in Ibar as a freelance so invited her to my room for ST as I was in no mood for LT due to my long travel haul!

The girl came into my room and was quite pretty gave me an amazing BJ followed by raunchy sex in multiple positions.

Girl was moaning a lot seemed fake to me though, strange part was after the act as soon as we finished she was into her mobile phone may be searching for some new clients but I guess should have waited to at least leave from my room still gave her 1500 as discussed earlier.

Anways the girl too told me that pattaya is quiet since last 2 days due to king's death anniversary I really don't know how long this will continue as I have plans to hit WS tonight though m hoping for better.

Apologies for a lengthy report will try to make it more subtle in the future.

Cheers!

Raven.

FL Hawk

10-15-17, 06:41

Pattaya Pre-Trip Report.

I crossed the nation to visit various family members before arriving at LAX late Sunday night for the early morning departure to Bangkok via Taipai on EVA Airlines. I like EVA, having flown their Elite Class on my previous trips. For about $1,500 round trip, you get upgraded seating and food, and after 2 trips within a year, you get upgraded to Silver status and have access to the lounges. That is nice! Hanging around Taipei airport was the pits. The price is about double that of cattle class, but I am still amazed one can travel halfway across the world for even $1,500, so I hardly mind the added cost. Sheesh, some domestic airlines will charge that for a busy and popular trip only across the nation!

In making my reservations, I believed I had accumulated sufficient miles to upgrade one leg to Business class, but when I checked pricing, it appeared business class pricing was nearly cut in half! Slow season? I didn't know or care why, so I booked Business class! Reality struck when I got my credit card bill and the cost was twice what I expected, so how did I double book? Well, stupid me, I discovered what I thought was the round trip price was just for one leg. Ugh. I had book EVA 5 previous times and this was the first time I made that mistake! My head must have been thinking of sexy Thai girls when I hit the "buy now" button! I started to cancel and rebook for Elite class, but then I remembered looking at my 401 statement and decided I was old enough and I could well afford some luxury, so I stuck with business class. So I was excited about the trip, even having watched YouTube videos on EVA business class travel. And it was very nice to travel that way. I slept better and while the trip was hardly enjoyable, it was less of a drain than being in Elite class, and I can't imagine the trip in cattle class! Not at my age when the old bones start hurting if they are packed into a tight position.

Anyway, my mission this time is multifold. Number one is to sample the delightful Thai women, of course. Most of that will be in Pattaya, but I should get some done in Bangkok. Number two is to visit my virgin Thai GF and, yet again, see if that condition can be remedied. We made some progress last time, so can we complete the task this time? And if we finally do, or if we again don't, how will my relationship to her change? She is a sweetheart, and I either need to commit to her or break it off with her. As a male, I fear doing either, but I am getting old and the mongering will have to end before too many years go by regardless. Number 3 is to develop options with other women for potential lifetime partners if the virgin GF simply doesn't work out.

So, my first order of business upon arriving in Bangkok will be to meet a potential Trophy Wife. I met her on Thai Cupid and thought she was too good to be true. She is hot, classy and appears to actually like me. Or is it my money? I may write a report about my time with her later. I will spend 3 nights with her. I am not sure if sex will be offered with her, but she is worth trying with. I have both good and bad feelings with her, but this is a bit off topic.

In addition to her, I met several others girls from Thai Cupid. One I will meet in Pattaya. She works in a store there and seems desperate to see me. Her over-enthusiasm may do her in, though. That and she has a kid. I am too old to deal with little kids. At best, I will show her a good time in exchange for sex. I may meet one or two other Thai Cupid girls back in Bangkok later. I don't really see any chance of either becoming my GF, but they are both sad and loney, one not having been with a man for years, and she appears she may be ready. Maybe not, but I may give it a try. Best case for them is a good time and memories with a "rich" American. For me, best case is bareback sex with some real, horny the&DF girls.

So, the basic schedule is to see the TW (Trophy Wife) upon arrival in Bangkok for 3 nights, then proceed to Pattaya for basic fun for 10 or 11 nights with maybe a day or two with the working girl. Then return to Bangkok for 3 nights for hopeful bareback sex with one or two horny girls who have gone without sex longer that I ever have, as well as possibly partaking in the Sukhumvet venues with gogo girls and FLers again. I will end my visit to Thailand by meeting up with the Thai GF for the final 11 or 12 nights where, hopefully this time, she will be a virgin no more. All told, it will be a full 4 weeks in the Land of Smiles!

FL Hawk

10-15-17, 07:15

Pattaya Trip Report, Day 1 (Friday).

I left the potential Trophy Wife at BKK to fly home. We had an interesting time. She likes me and I am unsure about her. But anyway, I had booked a limo with Nam the lady driver for 1200 TB (you can find her online). I love Bell Transportation, but they stink with transportation from BKK to Pattaya. You can't buy tickets at BKK, and to get them online you have to buy several days in advance. I failed to meet the time window and besides, the departure times have always been bad for me. It seems the bus always leaves just when I am ready to go, and the next bus is 2 hours away.

I have tried limo service previously, but never heard back from anyone when I tried to schedule. Nam answered promptly and it was a good experience. Not sure the driver was any less aggressive, but I felt safe and the car was sufficiently comfortable, though my butt was getting sore after 90 minutes. The only real downside was the long walk from the terminal to the parking area. With a taxi, they are out there waiting for you.

I arrived at the Dynasty Inn at about 4 PM. I have liked this place due its central location, but it's shortcomings are apparent after spending 3 nights at the Hyatt in Bangkok! No more luxuriously comfortable bed. But it is still a good mongering hotel at a quarter of the price. I soon enough headed out to Soi 6, my favorite stomping grounds. As I walked down the street I was not overly impressed with any of the girls. But the quietness of the street got my attention. Due to this being the anniversary of the His Majesty the King's death, there was no music playing. It was still busy with people, and drinks were being sold, but it was quiet. I kind of liked it as I could carry on a conversation! So, after walking all the way down to the ocean side, I trun around and head back, trying to remember the names of several places where my favorites from last April were. But soon after turning around, a girl at Smoke and Mirrors was calling out to me and I realized it was Jieb. I documented my two encounters with her from last April. I remain amazed that these women seem to be able to recognize us dudes when most of them I can't remember the next day! But Jeib had been a pretty good provider, so I agreed to let her be my first of the trip. I had had no sexual releases for a while, so I was primed and pumped and knew that those dreadful condones would not be a hindrance this time.

Jieb, at least with those she knows and likes I guess, can be a wild woman. She gets this crazy look in her eye and becomes a sexually crazed GF. She was definitely giving a near GFE tonight. DFK, multiple positions and, yes, she got me to that orgasm-in-a-condom that will henceforth be elusive. I should add that Jieb is probably in her early 30's, now with black hair (she was blond last time), small to medium breasts that give some small disappointment when the padded bra comes off, pretty nice legs and with a tummy that is starting to show some age, but the skin and hair remain soft and great to touch. Not a looker or spinner, but still quite attractive and she is crazy wild in bed. Very much recommended. Costs were $300 BF, $200 for drinks for the two of us, $1,000 for her, plus I tipped her $100.

I went back to the hotel and decided to take a nap. I am still jet-lagged, and my time with the Trophy Wife candidate left me possibly even more jet lagged. I woke up at about 7 PM and went out for a bite, but I still felt tired so I took another nap, waking at 12:30 AM. This is actually a perfect time to go to WS, so off I went, finding it largely dark and quiet. There were a fair number of people, but the clubs and bars were all closed. The food places and other stores were open and doing some business, but the hordes of people were not there. The silence of the place was almost deafening, some might say. But the number of WS FL girls was above normal, and of course, WS was full of them. The girls have to do something to make money! After walking the entire WS I came back to the hotel, alone, and went back to sleep. There were nice FL prospects, but I am becoming more leery of FL girls, though I have not had any bad experiences.

So, for a quiet Day 1, I had just one girl, Jieb from Smoke and Mirrors for 300 BF, 1000 fee and 100 tip. Drinks for us both were 200.

Abcce398

10-15-17, 19:14

Hi all,

This is part 3, following on from my previous post, this one is musings about gogo girls. The same disclaimer, these are my experiences and opinions, I do not claim they are definitive or will match everyone's experience. There is no substitute for reading more of these forums and making your own opinions in the field.

A lot of this may be subjective, but I hope it will generate some discussion to hear other opinions and experiences. I do have a few questions. But more of that later. Where to start?

The gogo girls' obsession with lady drinks. A never-ending source of frustration. I never understood why even when I said "here is a tip, stop it with the lady drinks" still, lady drink, lady drink. So I set out to get to the bottom of this. How does it work? Turns out a common system in gogo bars is a 10-day work contract for which a girl gets paid a salary of around 10,000. But there is a catch, to get the full 10,000 she must have 50 lady drinks in 10 days. If she has less, then she gets a penalty for each drink she is short. If she has more, she gets a small bonus for each drink extra.

So there you have it, if your girl is pushing like crazy for lady drinks, she is probably trying to make her quota. If you are trying to barfine a girl LT at 9 pm but she wants to have a few drinks first, that's why. And sometimes if she is really behind, she will not want to be barfined, but stay to try to make her drinks. It might seem like 5 drinks a night is an easy deal, and sure, for a popular girl in a busy gogo, no problem; on a good day, some can make 30 drinks. However, if two or three nights were slow, two or three nights she got barfined early, then all of a sudden things get tight.

That makes some sense, but then I wondered why buying drinks for the girl is not enough, immediately after you buy a drink you move on to "this my sister, buy drink for her", "this my best friend, buy drink for her", "this waitress my friend, buy drink for her", "oh, mamasan, she very nice, buy drink for her". And the next night, same girl, but new sister and best friend. This is basically the drinks mafia, she gets her guys to buy drinks for her friends, her friends get their guys to buy drinks for her, everyone wins, apart from you. Just keep in mind she has to be seen to ask for drinks for others, but if it is you who says no, then at least she tried and she doesn't lose favor.

I guess drinks for waitress and mamasan are just to get into their good books. The waitress and the mamasan seem to be equally happy with a small tip instead of a drink; I suppose they just earn a small amount for each drink they get, so a tip is just as good to them, but you can save a lot. Don't get me wrong, if your girl has a hot friend, or you want to have a party, or be nice to the mamasan (not a bad idea), then go right ahead. Just know what is happening.

I mentioned the 10-day contract, some girls may take a day or two off in between, some may move on to the next 10-day contract immediately. So if you have a favourite, you could try to line up your visit and spend some time with her between contracts. But this is not always up to the girl, the bar / mamasan also has to agree and it has to line up with the bar schedule and roster. There is competition to work in the top gogos and they call the shots.

Worth noting here, I think it was also mentioned recently in the forums, if you meet a girl on her day off in the bar where she normally works and you want to take her with you, you will have to pay the barfine. Some crazy convoluted logic there.

Each gogo has its own set of rules and there are often fines associated with breaking the rules. This is why you will hear a girl complain her feet hurt, but she will never take off her shoes, or why she will scramble to the stage when it's her turn to dance. The mamasan is always looking for transgressions.

What are the rules around the barfine? The mamasan will always ask you if you want to take the girl ST or LT and certainly the girl will ask you. However, the barfine does not change with your answer, so even if it seems the girl has to return to the bar after ST, make no mistake, once you pay the barfine the girl is under no obligation to return that night.

Girls will use that excuse to finish up ST as quickly as possible, "mamasan wait for me, have go back, big fine", but there is no such thing. They either want to go party or go back to the bar to make more drinks and try to get barfined again. I heard about a super popular girl in a bar, that sometimes she can go with three guys ST on the same night. Not a bad effort when the bar is open between 9:30 pm and 3 am. It was said with a lot of envy, so I would believe it. And she was pretty damn hot, too!

So how much does and can a gogo dancer earn? Well, if she works for a month in a gogo with a similar salary to what I mentioned and just makes her 50 drink quota each time, then 30,000. If on top of that she goes out for ST 2-3 times a week, then that's another 30,000. At least half of which is tax free. Not sure how good gogos are at declaring income for their girls, but even if they are on top of it for the full salary, the tax would still only be around 200 a month! So that brings us to 59,800 a month, after tax. .

Not a bad deal considering average monthly salary in Thailand is around 10-13,000. Sources vary here, but you get the idea. And what is the average salary in the poorer, Northern part of Thailand where most of the girls are from?

One could make the argument a girl may not get barfined 2-3 times per week. All I will say to that is: my last visit was certainly during the low season and, even so, at 2:30 am, near closing time, the popular gogos had about a third of the girls they had at 10 pm. A few times I tried to catch a particular girl, but every time she was either barfined already or in the process of being barfined.

How much can a sexy girl earn in a busy bar in peak season? Well, let's just say more than you or me! So who should be buying the drinks?

Just to be clear, not claiming every girl in Pattaya makes that kind of money, but just creating a little perspective about girls who know what they are doing and are working in the right gogos. It might even be possible to make a good living without having sex, just being barfined sometimes to eat or dance. Or to do this job for a few months a year while putting oneself through university.

Yet they are still obsessed with money. And despite what they say, somehow it always comes back to the money. Some stories might be in order.

Met this girl in a gogo and really hit it off with her, you know, sometimes you just click, had a lot of fun together. But then I had to go back home. We kept in touch over the next two or three months until I could come back. She said she missed me, all that, but didn't ask for money, a good sign. Then a week or two before my next visit it was her birthday. She said she was really sad, she was alone, no presents, her family was far away.

Finally, I was able to go back, I didn't tell her exactly when I was coming, wanted to surprise her. I just made sure she wasn't going on holidays just as I visited. I arrived fairly late and went to see her at her bar, she was not there. So I checked out a few other bars, went back around 2 am, and there she was. Clearly she had been out ST earlier. She told me she was out to eat, a lie, but OK.

Barfined her and took her back to the hotel. On the way I bought her some flowers and told her I had a surprise for her birthday. I had candles in the room, chocolates and some presents. It was quite romantic. She cried, she said nobody did something so nice for her. We cuddled and she asked if I wanted to have sex. I said no, told her it was her night and she is not working. I just kissed her and she fell asleep in my arms.

In the morning we woke up late and same deal, I said I didn't want sex, that we will have plenty of time for it later. Instead we went to eat, she was very friendly, we talked about the rest of the holiday, and so on. Once we finished lunch, she said she had some things to do in the afternoon, but she can see me in the evening. I said great, here is 100 for motorbike. And then bombshell, "I stay with you long time, you give me 6000. " Of course!

To her it was completely normal I should pay her. It didn't occur to her that she had made her money for the night (with the ST she had earlier), that I barfined her at the end of the night, that we didn't have sex, but instead she got flowers, presents and lunch! She said I didn't love her if I didn't want to take care of her.

No, I most definitely didn't love her with that attitude!

And she was the kind of girl who would be barfined every night, not only 2-3 times a week, yet unable to recognise a special moment and look past the money.

An aside here, if she didn't like me and it was all business (fine by me! We didn't have sex and the presents I got for her were easily worth a few thousand. So even if she expected money just for her time, she'd already gotten enough out of it!

Another one, met her a few times on multiple trips, but she did not want to go out barfine, said she is looking for someone serious, so met her outside work, no sex, no money, just talking. Then finally I said I wanted to barfine her and I will not accept any excuses. She agreed. I didn't specify ST or LT, she didn't ask, mamasan didn't ask.

It was early in the evening, went back to the hotel, had some good but not extraordinary sex (far from GFE). That was about two hours and by now around midnight. She was hungry, so I said, sure, let's go out to get some food. Then she says, "You pay me now. Long time. 6000. " Of course!

Really? Why put in so much effort to talk to me and then do that? I mean, at this stage, if it is all fake then you are playing the long game, get the stupid farang to send you money every month for you to "stop working" in the bar. And you certainly don't ask for LT money after ST!

My plan was to take her to eat something, go to a disco and then come back to the hotel to see if she was better in bed after a few drinks. Then in the morning I would give her the opportunity to show her hand by saying something like "I know you said you like me and probably don't want any money, but if you need help with money then I can help you". At which point she could ask for anywhere between 0 and 5000 (LT is definitely not 6000!) If she asked for nothing, then I would have considered being intrigued.

I told her I was disappointed she is asking for money even though I am not sending her away and she is asking for a stupid amount. I said I could only give her ST money before the morning and, all of a sudden, she remembered mamasan was waiting for her. Have no idea if she would have remembered the same thing if I gave her LT money!

Again, even if she didn't like me and it was all business, I wanted to barfine her the first time I met her, it was her who said no and started the whole saga. Doesn't make any sense!

They say don't fall in love with bar girls! Sound advice! Those stories were not me falling in love with bar girls, just me being bored and playing along to see what happens.

The story of an innocent girl who fell on hard times, was forced into this job and is just desperate for a man to rescue her, somehow does not fly. Read Private Dancer by Stephen Leather, it's fiction, but rather insightful into the mindset of lovestruck farangs and gogo dancers. It is no longer available for free download from the author's site (it was for a long time), but can still be found quite easily on other sites.

Following on, if gogo girls are crazy for money and asking top dollar for their services, then one might be forgiven for thinking they will also do everything to make their customers happy, maximising repeat business and referrals. But despite a good number of reports talking about girls who'll be up for anything and the reputation of Pattaya, my experience has been less than ideal. Not sure if I am doing something wrong, and what I am doing wrong; hopefully some people here can offer advice.

I've been mostly taking girls from the main gogos on Walking St and I lean towards cute and naughty rather than hot and slutty. That being said, I do make sure there is chemistry and look for signs of naughtiness. No point going with a girl who has no interest in you just because you like her. I also say I'm in town for the whole week even if I am leaving the next day, to make sure there is incentive for great performance. The signs are all good in the bar, but the problems start once in the room.

I like to have a drink, kiss the girl, take her clothes off slowly. But usually it's "I no like kissing, you shower". What about foreplay? Doing something naughty? Wearing something sexy? Getting the man in the mood? Put on some music and do a lap dance or a strip tease. You were going crazy in the bar with your hands all over me and putting my hands all over you, why not do the same and more in the room?

Then I like to shower with the girl and it's "no, I shy, you go, I shower after". After the shower, "I don't like blowjob", "you too big, my mouth small", after 30 seconds of barely sucking the tip, "I tired, you have condom?" During the main event, "you so big, it hurts", "why you so strong, why you no come? "you come now, na", "I no like sex long time". Many of them even want to avoid having an orgasm, and God forbid any mention of anal or sex toys.

Yes, I know, the girls will try their luck, you should pay no attention, and they will do the right thing. That's not the problem, the problem is: it completely destroys the mood. The goal for me is not so much the sex, but the experience. And the experience is gone the moment the bullshit starts. I mean, what the hell are you doing in this job if you don't like sex and you have no interest in actually pleasuring your man?

Bad experiences can happen everywhere, but generally the girl will do her best to at least pretend she is into whatever it is you want to do. And if you clicked with the girl when you met her, especially after a few drinks, she will be horny enough to not have to pretend. Once you're in the middle of it, nature takes its course. The only girls I had try to stop me when they were getting close to orgasm were Thai girls, all others were like "don't you fucking dare stop doing what you are doing!

I've seen other reports also mention reluctance on the part of the girls, but most reports seem to indicate satisfaction and girls who are pretty much up for anything. Where are these girls? Where are the girls who take pride in their work? Where are the girls who can give a proper BJ? Where are the PSEs? In reality more after naughty GFEs, but you get the idea.

I've tried taking the same girl more than once, to see if anything changed, if she got more relaxed or at least thought she might get a "boyfriend" out of it. Not much changed, if anything she just became possessive.

I've tried going to a less popular gogo, lowering my standards some, and picking a girl who showed interest. Found this tattooed girl who seemed promising. And she was promising until she showered and then started smelling like garlic or something, her breath, her skin, everything oozed of the stuff. That was a complete turn off.

I've tried taking a girl from the disco, she had amazing natural boobs and was hot, but did not give a proper blow job and wanted to stop the sex after a little while, said she doesn't like sex that lasts too long. Nightmare.

Pattaya is meant to be the land of pleasure and unspeakable acts. Would love some suggestions.

Horatio

10-16-17, 02:18

""""My plan was to take her to eat something, go to a disco and then come back to the hotel to see if she was better in bed after a few drinks. Then in the morning I would give her the opportunity to show her hand by saying something like "I know you said you like me and probably don't want any money, but if you need help with money then I can help you". At which point she could ask for anywhere between 0 and 5000 (LT is definitely not 6000!) If she asked for nothing, then I would have considered being intrigued.""""
"

She works for money. I don't understand why you think you should be able to change that without her input. She might like you and you might be one of her enjoyable customers, but you are still a customer.

" goal for me is not so much the sex, but the experience."

You are paying someone who expects money for sex and you are trying g to change that without her input. The first time I had a bargirl this trip, I tried to make it a big GFE. We went to a Buddhist temple had a nice lunch etc, but in the end it was for naught. She wasn't a girlfriend and it was just a commercial transaction.

The bargirl I see a lot now is a really great GFE. But I pay her at the end of every session. I think she really does have affection for me. I am sweet to her and she is sweet to me. But again that is part of a money transaction. I think it crazy and kind of wrong to try and unilaterally change it into something that does not end with her being paid.

Just my opinion for what it's worth. I enjoyed your post and look forward to reading more.

Allover

10-16-17, 06:37

Axiata

10-16-17, 06:53

You are obviously a very thoughtful person. Hell I almost started crying when I read this. At the end of the day she is in Pattaya for money. The flowers and chocolates are cool but don't pay the bills. Some girls there would be more appreciative of your kindness to be sure. But it's all about the money for the overwhelming majority of these girls.Spot on. They know why we go to Pattaya. If you have the money you get the honey. The more you spend does not guarantee that it will be sweeter though. Flowers and chocolates are for the girls back home who need romance in order to get laid. Pattaya is about ST, LT and LDs. That is all they want. Still each monger has the MO so if that works then use it. I prefer to pay to play and if they play well they get more. Simple supply and demand theory.

Happy Hunting.

Uncle Volodya

10-16-17, 08:11

Mr Enternational

10-16-17, 13:15

You are obviously a very thoughtful person. Hell I almost started crying when I read this. At the end of the day she is in Pattaya for money. The flowers and chocolates are cool but don't pay the bills. Some girls there would be more appreciative of your kindness to be sure. But it's all about the money for the overwhelming majority of these girls.LOL. That was funny. He tried to buy love with flowers (hoping he did not pay more than 50 baht for those - I get them down to 30), candles, candy, and a paid vacation day FROM A BAR GIRL. After all he had written it would seem he had realized much sooner that all love in Pattaya costs is money. If you want to try your hand at love then at least meet a chick with a normal job, not a chick you know for certain to be a hooker.

XXL

10-16-17, 14:40

First, ST full service session in one of the random bars (they look all alike to me). Girl was nice and did her best. Still, her tailend had looked above average when dressed but turned out less impressive in doggy action: too boyish to push me over the edge.

So off to Click Bar for a 800 bath blowjob. Finished in a handjob as I can't cum with a blowjob unless exceptional or accompanied by prostata massage.

I asked a Russian guy who'd been checking a spectacular ladyboy's genital credentials in mid-street was the deal was. "Vagina" was the Russian's verdict. Wow.

If I'm not mistaken thai girls get nose jobs but no butt jobs. That would be because the latter would have people mistake them for ladyboys. A somewhat schizophrenic state of affairs.

Syzygies

10-16-17, 15:24

Abcce398

10-16-17, 23:57

Hi again,

At Horatio, at Allover, at Axiata, at Uncle Volodya, at Mr Enternational, at Syzygies, thanks so much for your comments. Absolutely agree with your general sentiments. And that was the intention of my post. To give some insight to the less experienced and also a warning about falling in love with bar girls.

At Syzygies, I specifically referred to the earning potential of cute girls in popular / busy gogos, the type I have been going for, who have no trouble earning what is a tremendous sum of money. Most of them indeed have started this job because they needed money and have children / parents / siblings to support. But I would contend a small portion of what they earn can easily take care of a family in rural Thailand. They are no longer desperate for money, but rather they are obsessed with money. The key difference I was trying to highlight! And I do accept this is a generalisation, not the obsession part, but the varying circumstances.

If from my stories it came across like I was trying to get something for nothing, that was definitely not it. Is it not fair to say the "honey" in "no money, no honey" refers to sex? Let's be serious here, as a general rule you are not paying for the girl's time, you are paying for sex. For ST she will try to run out the moment sex is finished. Even in soapies, where they promise a 1.5 hour experience, same deal.

Both girls in my stories told me they liked me, they are alone and are very sad to be alone. Doesn't matter if it was a lie, just taking them at their word. I am simply pointing out their own internal inconsistency between words and actions.

The first one said she spent her birthday alone. So, I did something for her. In terms of her time, well, it was the end of the night, barfined her just before close, and she didn't spend the night entertaining me, she got some presents, she slept, she got free lunch. Very likely what she would have done otherwise, minus the presents and the free lunch!

If she felt she wanted to get something out of me, she did. It was not just flowers and chocolates, which may be considered worthless, but also presents that could have been easily sold if she so chose. And hey, if it was not enough then she could have made up some story where she urgently needed 1-2000 or whatever. But 6000? That is more than the LT price at her bar! Who wanted something for nothing.

The other girl, said she was looking for something serious, saw her on several trips, and each time she refused to go barfine, but she met with me outside work, no money exchanged. When I finally convinced her to come with me, I did not expect it would be free. What I wrote before was: *if* she didn't ask for money, then I would have been intrigued. That's all. My problem was she asked for LT money after ST, and she even asked for 6000 when LT is 5000!

Why put in so much effort with me if she was just after a standard payday? I wanted to take her out the first time I met her, and really each time I saw her in the bar, she said no. Again, only looking for logical consistency with her previous words and actions. (Yes, yes, stupid thing to look for in women!

At Horatio et al, in my opinion I was not trying to change the rules of the game, but was still playing well within the rules and giving the girls the opportunity to put their proverbial money where their mouths were. Did I expect anything different? No. But I am always prepared to be surprised.

What is the conclusion? Despite not being desperate for money, despite what they might say, or even how they might feel (at Horatio), those girls will be incapable of not hustling you. Perhaps they think the money they are asking is nothing for you but so important for them! They forget they are no longer desperate for it and possibly never considered they might just earn more than you!

Changing tack here, the main thing I was hoping to get some insight into was the issue with the quality of the experience in the bedroom. Thanks at Uncle Volodya for some pointers. Where can I get some lookers who are also dirty? A lady on the street and a * in the bedroom! So far it has mostly been a * on the street and a lady in the bedroom. Terrible combo!

I should explain my comment about the goal being the experience, not the sex. What I meant was the reason I enjoy Thailand so much is the party atmosphere, the ability to go out, have some drinks, enjoy some tomfoolery, and then go back with a cute girl who has been teasing you all night. The sex at 2 am is the culmination of the experience that started at 8 pm. This is exactly what I want the sex to be, the climactic final scene of a very enjoyable movie. But instead, most of the time I get the equivalent of the lights coming on in the cinema every two minutes during the finale and someone loudly announcing "this is only a movie"!

If you haven't read my previous post, this is in reference to the girls complaining about everything when they get to the room. Not all girls, but the majority. Even if I ignore them and do what I want, I don't actually get what I want, because the mood is destroyed.

Banana Boi

10-17-17, 13:17

Touch is opening another gogo bar in LK Metro, directly across the alley. Supposed to open on September 30 but looks far from being complete. The dancer poles are in though.The new bar is named Pulse bar. Recent photo.

BionicMan

10-17-17, 13:18

Spot on. They know why we go to Pattaya. If you have the money you get the honey. The more you spend does not guarantee that it will be sweeter though. Flowers and chocolates are for the girls back home who need romance in order to get laid. Pattaya is about ST, LT and LDs. That is all they want. Still each monger has the MO so if that works then use it. I prefer to pay to play and if they play well they get more. Simple supply and demand theory.

Happy Hunting.Flowers and chocolate will not earn you much, true, we don't necessarily need their respect, true.

But it is a simple nice gesture. Won't cost youan arma and a leg.

Might get you either some consideration from a girl. Or, worst scenario, you will look like they often look at you. A walking ATM.

So no change innthat rspect.

ALion2

10-17-17, 13:36

So how much does and can a gogo dancer earn? Well, if she works for a month in a gogo with a similar salary to what I mentioned and just makes her 50 drink quota each time, then 30,000. If on top of that she goes out for ST 2-3 times a week, then that's another 30,000. Hi Abcce, thanks for a good and analyzing report! I recognize many of the things you write about.

Regarding the monthly salary of top gogo girls, some of those girls actually make 100.000 baht + per month! A few years ago I got to know one of the most popular gogo dancers in Phuket and her as popular best friend, and they both earned around or above 100.000 baht / month. Money came from the fixed monthly salary, commission on lady drinks, tips, commission on barfines and the money they got when going with customers.

One of my best friends dated a very popular gogo dancer in Pattaya a few years ago. She had two sport cars, a very big bike and a house just outside Pattaya. She had also built a house to her mum and son in Isaan and she was about to buy a condo in Pattaya. She told him she earn 100.000 + baht / month. That's huge money considered that a standard monthly Thai salary are 10-15 K baht. Just think about if you should earn ten times the average monthly salary in your country.

There is a saying: the richer you get the more greedy you get. That may be one explanation to why some of these girls gets obsessed with money and wants money regardless of what you do when you "spend their time". But also, my experience is that when they really fall in love with someone, they don't care about money. Just as long as they have the minimum of what is required to have their parents / children / family to survive.

Mr Enternational

10-17-17, 14:46

What is the conclusion? Despite not being desperate for money, despite what they might say, or even how they might feel (at Horatio), those girls will be incapable of not hustling you. Perhaps they think the money they are asking is nothing for you but so important for them! They forget they are no longer desperate for it and possibly never considered they might just earn more than you!How do you know they are no longer desperate for it? You said you read the book so you should know about gambling debts, dad's truck, etc. Just because you see me partying, buying drinks, and appearing to enjoy myself in iBar, does not mean you can tell I owe whoever 1. 8 million dollars. My ex girlfriend had her own business in Pattaya and was making good money beside the 15000 baht she had to pay the police every month. If she had never told me that she cosigned a 100,000 baht loan for a friend with the mafia and the friend ran off leaving her on the hook for the money then I would have never known. I may have had your same attitude thinking she was not desperate for money.

I should explain my comment about the goal being the experience, not the sex. What I meant was the reason I enjoy Thailand so much is the party atmosphere, the ability to go out, have some drinks, enjoy some tomfoolery, and then go back with a cute girl who has been teasing you all night. The sex at 2 am is the culmination of the experience that started at 8 pm. This is exactly what I want the sex to be, the climactic final scene of a very enjoyable movie. But instead, most of the time I get the equivalent of the lights coming on in the cinema every two minutes during the finale and someone loudly announcing "this is only a movie"!LOL. You are doing it to yourself. Some people will say that you are wasting time and money. The girls come ready to make money. They have not been teasing you. You are drawing it out in your own fantasy by drinking and whatnot, when all you would have had to say was let's go the first moment you laid eyes on her. Pattaya isn't for guys that are trying to play it cool; Pattaya is for guys that come ready to fuck.

XXL

10-17-17, 15:18

On Ko Larn with Malagasy girl. I'd hoped Tien beach would be less plagued by speedboats and jetskis than Samae beach but there wasn't much difference. I hope Thailand's beaches are more than just one big noise and fumes experiment. Swimming close to the rocks to escape the nuisance I cut one finger, later one toenail on something razor-sharp (corals? Urchins?).

After lunch my girl had insisted on making a fuss with the waitress because we'd been served squid instead of the fish we'd ordered. From what I could gather later the waitress jibed back by asking the Malagasy why "a pretty girl like her" was with "an old man" like myself, which was tantamount to telling her straight to her face that she was a wh*re. My girl reportedly answered "because he's got money". The coolest answer possible under the circumstances.

My girl told me she made close to 4000 EUR a month in Pattaya during the tourist season. During the rainy season she preferred to work in Dubai where she could make 3 times as much. "An Irishman wanted me as his girlfriend for 2000 bath / day", she said. "But I declined telling him it would only be a deal if he gave me 5000 bath / day or was serious about marrying me".

Back at LK Empress the sex was going well until the condom turned up full of blood. Gave her her 2000 bath for her to leave. Before leaving she chattered at some length on Whattsapp in her own mother tongue with someone she described as "her boss". Her boss was the person who'd facilitaded the visas etc. Her boss was now in Malaysia. Her boss turned out to be a woman of respectable age (not a tattooed 20 year-old stud).

Off to soi 6 to try and put the Viagra to good use. The only creatures there who produced some tingling in my groins, at least from a distance, were LBs. Ended up with a 800 bath BJ / HJ at King Kong's.

Mr Enternational

10-17-17, 16:28

Before leaving she chattered at some length on Whattsapp in her own mother tongue with someone she described as "her boss". Her boss was the person who'd facilitaded the visas etc. Her boss was now in Malaysia. Her boss turned out to be a woman of respectable age (not a tattooed 20 year-old stud).Most of the African girls live in Pattaya with the bosses/madams - usually an older woman like you said. The places have been on the news before after being raided.

LittleBigMan

10-18-17, 01:52

The new bar is named Pulse bar. Recent photo.A week ago it had a soft opening as they called it lots of free food, lots of balloon chasers too the place was crowed, didn't partake I wasn't hungry. Rumor to open on the 20th of this month.

LittleBigMan

10-18-17, 02:28

A398,

From my experience, when it comes to drink mafia I believe was your question or comment?

Buy drink for my sister etc etc. There is somewhat of a game played or status at the GoGo's, it has nothing to do with drink quotas if they aren't on 10 day contracts. In general they make friends usually because they come from the same village, cousins, or even because they aren't as popular and they become friends night after night not being barfine. Whenever they get a potential customer they feel them out and if they think they're nice guy or even take advantage will ask for drinks for their friends. Not all girls make a lot of money due to many reasons or even gotten a drink in a evening once they do, might not have noticed will tell you if they know you well enough or you see them tap the slip on their head / body for good luck that is a indication that is the first drink of the evening.

There is a drawback from this practice for the girls when the girls click together to help each other out, a payback, if it is slow for their friends and they know, if they have a customer and sense they can ask they will and get a drink for their friends and if they don't they will hear about it. Many get the Queen bee affect when their customer is buying drinks for their friend the girls working know more what is going on than we think? The clubs that belong to the Happy Group in particular apply this method. They will also help in BF, one girl sitting with a group of guys the girl will try to push their friends on them knowing they are looking, that too has a payback.

I see it all the time, Korean, Japanese, Chinese, whites, buying drinks it can be a ego boost both ways. I've met up with some of these guys at Thai clubs some do it regularly and some are shell shock they they just spent a few thousands on drink, BF a few girl friends give them a 1000 baht for the evening go eat and party. In the end, it all adds up to no insurance you are going to really get a experience of your life?

Banana Boi

10-18-17, 05:00

I never understood the concept of buying a gogo girl's ugly friends a drink. If the friends are hot and are also hands on then no problem. The Japanese seem to thrive on buying uglies a drink. You always see one hot girl and 2-3 uglies around them.

If you ever BF a girl and let them decide where to go they will direct you to a bar where they have friends and hope you buy their friends drinks too.

Lefeu

10-18-17, 06:27

...If you ever BF a girl and let them decide where to go they will direct you to a bar where they have friends and hope you buy their friends drinks too.Happened to me quite a few times, especially in AC, more so than Pattaya.

JesseJames

10-18-17, 10:23

Happened to me quite a few times, especially in AC, more so than Pattaya.I liked a girl working in a beer bar, North Pattaya, decades ago. I hung around and bought some drinks for the other girls. A couple of days later, away from the bar, she said "why you buy drinks for all of them? You waste money doing that. " She was pretty angry about it. She wanted the money for herself. I got the picture of how stupid I was acting.

LittleBigMan

10-18-17, 12:26

I look at it this way, it might be due to culture as a Asian many if given a opportunity like to sit around and enjoy themselves eating and drinking. But in Pattaya I've seen lots of foreigners of course not as many as Asians do it.

Just remember if you are in a group not every guys is fit and good looking so why does one think all girls working a Go Go got to be good looking. We have friends of all types it is no different if they work Go Go's. At least for me, I don't know good looking girls working in Go Go just want good looking friends.

As for good looking girls having their customers buy their ugly friends drinks is understandable, they aren't getting drinks or customer so the good looking one (good heart) is helping out. I should be looked at now that is a good looking women with a good heart?

People are all different, they come for many reason, for some if not majority here want to get hook up barfine and back to the sack. Some like to sit buy drinks and that itself is like foreplay and it hasn't nothing to do with being Asian 3-3-3, I've heard enough stories from girls that there are short in every race, unless you are from the Cargo. We all know the numbers surveys regarding the penis and just because you are a 1/4 inch larger than someone I don't think there is any reason to brag how big you are compare to the Asian.

I've done more than my share of buying drinks for good and bad looking girls many times if it bothers me the money I say "don't go " These days for many reasons there are nights I rather spend a few thousand baht on drinks and go home alone. Many of the stunners I know are just friends they know I'm not going to pay their rate plus a evening with me is usually some eating and drinking at a local place and if I'm in a mood and the price is right I will partake. In many occasions I'll take one because I want to vent and do something so they basically become a escort of sort, some of her friends good and bad looking hear where we are headed give me money to BF them so they can go along because they want a break and that is when all the fun begins.

Sure it is a pain in the ass trying to connect with someone to BF, girls down their drinks too fast order only tequila want drinks for their friends, the worse is a mamasan asking for a tip for doing nothing and I never deal with the Mamasan or pay in advance a major reason why I don't BF at Happy. If things bother me so much I don't go! nothing is perfect not even hunting for pussy.

Crazy4Thai

10-18-17, 13:39

SNIP
Ended up with a 800 bath BJ / HJ at King Kong's.I am enjoying your reports. It is impressive that you even have the names of the beaches correct. Then it is kind of jarring for me to read "bath" when baht is widely accepted as the correct spelling. Just a friendly suggestion.

C4 T.

Allover

10-18-17, 17:34

I am enjoying your reports. It is impressive that you even have the names of the beaches correct. Then it is kind of jarring for me to read "bath" when baht is widely accepted as the correct spelling. Just a friendly suggestion.

C4 T.The use of the word bath instead of baht drives me crazy, too. Some have said this is due to an autocorrect function. I always spell out the word baht or use a "B" i. e. B700 barfine. I know there is a way to type the baht symbol that looks like letter be but I don't know how to do it.

Syzygies

10-18-17, 21:28

The use of the word bath instead of baht drives me crazy, too. Some have said this is due to an autocorrect function. I always spell out the word baht or use a "B" i. e. B700 barfine. I know there is a way to type the baht symbol that looks like letter be but I don't know how to do it.It is a little bit unimportant, even if looks very silly. Almost all English spellings of Thai words are fucked in some way. Ask a Thai to read Bath and they will probably say the same as Baht anyway, the English style of Th does not exist in Thai. Spelled as Baht so show long "ah" and to separate from Bat. In some Romanisation systems they use Baat.

Syzygies

10-18-17, 21:33

I liked a girl working in a beer bar, North Pattaya, decades ago. I hung around and bought some drinks for the other girls. A couple of days later, away from the bar, she said "why you buy drinks for all of them? You waste money doing that. " She was pretty angry about it. She wanted the money for herself. I got the picture of how stupid I was acting.That is an extraordinarily selfish girl you met. Most bar girls want to help their friends to make money too. Does not mean we need to buy drinks for girls of no interest.

I have sometimes suggested to a girl that she can buy her friend a drink, if she wants to. LOL.

FL Hawk

10-19-17, 04:23

Pattaya Trip Report – Day 2.

I woke up early. I checked the weather forecast, and the hour-by-hour forecast showed rain would be starting later in the morning and going through the afternoon and night. Great. I got up, gathered together some laundry and found my usual place on Soi 13/1 was closed. I went to breakfast at the 150 be buffet next door, then went back and successfully dropped it off.

I then decided to see one of the Thai Cupid girls I was to meet in Pattaya. I went to the store where she works, surprising her, and she quickly asked if I had eaten as she was hungry and wanted to have lunch with me. I was not hungry but I was thirsty and said I would take her wherever she wanted. I must say I was somewhat disappointed with her looks. From her pictures I could tell she was not a spinner but she did have a cute face. In person, she had the cute face but her body was, well, very wide. How to get out of this? She has seemed to be the kind that latches on and perhaps stalks a bit, like with her tying to video chat with me multiple times when I, multiple times, ignored her. I did not want to get stuck with a girl who was constantly calling me and expecting me to spend her entire free time with her, or asking what I did when I was not with her, and insisting I get phone service so she could keep a constant watch on me. I came to Pattaya for sex, and with this particular Thai Cupid girl I was hoping for perhaps some GFE bare back sex. Well, if she were attractive I could put up with it. I had plans do deal with it, including changing hotels in the middle of the trip in case she decided to come looking for me I would have broken things off, or to let her think I had left town really didn't. Anyway, with my agreeing to buy her lunch, she went to the back, presumably to check out with her boss, and off we went to Central Festival mall, a several mile journey on a baht bus. I warned her about getting back within the hour time limit she had.

She found where she wanted to eat and as we were about to order, she got a text from her boss who was angry that she went out with a customer. Did a co-worker squeal about her? She had gotten fired and fined for letting a phone get taken and for taking a week off to take care of a sick child, but though she got the job back, so she is not one of boss's favorites! And why would going with a customer, really a friend, get her in trouble? She had to get right back to work and, as it turned out, the boss was going to fine her 2000 be! How is that legal, even in Thailand? I know, it may be illegal but you either pay the fine out of your wages or get fired, and who will advocate for a single mother? She was upset and worried so I put her on a motorbike. She wanted to meet again after she got off work at 9 PM. OK, fine. But I was thinking, do I really want to? Is it better to end it now and simply hide? Should I pay all or part of her fine?

After leaving her, I did a few things then headed to Soi 6. I decided to stop by Foxy to see if Noi was still there. I had a great time with Noi last trip. She was like a GF. The sex was passionate and good. Having multiple encounters with the same provider is something I normally minimize, but she was difficult to resist as she always put her heart into it, the extent of which is rare for a provider. When people here state that Thai bar girls do the bare minimum, I know they have not found their own Noi. But, alas, she is gone. She returned home, and I am happy for her. No one else there caught my fancy, though they all were helpful in trying to tell me what happened to Noi. I think a lot of these girls bond together to an extent. They are all pretty much in the same boat and of similar culture, and living far from their families with the duty to send money back home, they become close.

I resumed my walk down the street and a cute girl saw me and smiled. She was not the prettiest, but her smile and obviously real cleavage and really nice legs got my attention. A cuter girl at the next bar also was smiling at me, but it was Ning at Horny Bar who I went to see. This place actually had several hotter girls too, but I stuck with Ning on some whim. Her face was not the greatest and it appeared she was a mother, but just the pleasant look she had was sufficient to keep my interest. Not the greatest body, but I was thinking of a Noi replacement, and Ning just might fit the bill.

I went inside with her and ordered a soda, and despite some limited English, we seemed to hit it off a bit and I let her get a drink too. She ordered soda water as well, which I take as a good sign. She soon enough started feeling me up a little and rubbing herself against me. I know doing that is part of the script, but she had an almost innocent look to her (is is possible to be a hooker and be innocent as well? And the Kamagra I just taken was starting to take effect, so it wasn't too long before I agreed to BF her.

Upstairs, she gave a decent shower, revealing a set of at least the, maybe DD, bolt-ONS. They felt ok – soft and firm, not hard, but fake boobs that big well always be cold. But I prefer big, cool fake ones to tiny, dropping real ones. The bags were not detectable to me either, which is typically my main complaint with implants. Her body could rank from a 6 to an 8 I suppose, depending if you discount fake books. Not much of a figure, but great legs and those breasts looked fine. I would put her age in the mid-20's. We showered and in bed she disappointed a bit by too quickly starting a BBBJ. I prefer to lie with the woman first and do some gentle touching and kissing, but she rushed right it. But the Kamagra gave me a raging boner, so perhaps she thought that is what I wanted her to do. For a young "innocent", she gave a great BJ. She was slow and soft and she took some time. It is bad enough when some ladies start right in with a BJ, but when they also go fast, it can totally destroy the mood. She gained points by being slow and actually changing position to get a better angle.

When she put the condom went on (I used my. 01 Aoni) and climbed aboard, I was able to feel a little through the condom. It almost seems that condoms feel a little better when fresh, but what I think happens is that the continual thrusting is sliding the condom down and making it tight, or sometimes it results in wrinkles like the whole condom is being stretched lengthwise and it bunches up further down. This is definitely happening and I can feel it, often stopping during sex to pull and un-stretch he thing and recreate a reservoir tip. Yesterday when I came, it was actually a tad painful, as I think the condom had slipped down so far that it formed a seal over my Johnson's opening, and my whole plumbing system had to exert enough force to break through. Is this not a lovely thought to be having as you are struggling to come?!

She worked hard on top of me, then I switched us to missionary then to doggie and then back to missionary (re-stretching the condom as required). I can add that with the large boobies, when I was in missionary with her, supporting myself on my elbows, our nipples would sometimes meet, which I found erotic. You don't feel that effect with the spinner types! But, of course, especially since I had come yesterday, I could not come with her. I pulled out and collapsed from trying. She offered another BJ, and she did a nice job and got me close. Very close, actually, but even with only one come in well over a week, it would not happen. Not only can I rarely come with a condom on, I can only rarely come with a wonderful BBBJ. What is wrong with me? And when I fail with a BJ, I will fail with a HJ. Sigh. I gave up and had her lay next to me. For an old man who is sexually frustrated, having a sweet young woman next to you, naked, at least helps with the inadequacy feelings. Many of these girls, though hardly all, really do take it personally when a man fails. I still remember a Soi 6 girl from last time, a student actually, who refused to have sex with me again when I failed with her. She did not dislike me and she enjoyed talking to me, but her personal sense of failure took precedence over her need for money. Anyway, even in the "afterglow", the boner stuck around to taunt me at my failure, and she continue to slowly rub and before it went too soft, she even tried another BJ. It still felt good, but no orgasm.

I gave her 1000 for her fee, 100 for her effort, and 100 for being a sweet girl. The second tip was probably not necessary, but she went above and beyond to tried to get me off and then consoled me a bit at the end and, well, I liked her. Our soda's were 240 be and the BF was 300, so the total cost was just 1,240 TB. About $44. Amazing.

I considered seeing another Soi 6 provider but no one grabbed my attention, so I came back to the hotel to write reports then decide what to do that night.

But after returning to the hotel from Soi 6, at about 7 PM I decided to nap. I had the intention of meeting Thai Cupid girl at 9, but I overslept and didn't wake until after 10! She had tried to Line text me and made a Line video call, but somehow my phone was in silent mode. Honestly, I had intended to stand her up. I felt bad. I apologized with a return text, but when she asked where I was I didn't answer. I hate women asking where I am all the time, and she had been acting like I was already hers to ask such questions of, though I understand her asking in this situation.

Should I go give her 2000 be as, had I not surprised her that morning showing up at her work place (Tuk Comm), she would not have gotten in trouble? But then, it wasn't my fault she got in trouble and she needs to assume some responsibility. Sigh. What do you guys think? This is Tuesday now, and she texted and called me that evening to ask where I was. I ignored her. She repeated with two texts Monday. I guess I will leave her alone. I have a feeling I am being a bit of a jerk though. It is now Thursday as I complete my final review and post this. Sigh.

Anyway, feeling guilty, I got up and headed to WS. It was packed. I did not notice any buses full of Chinese jamming the streets at least, though there were plenty of Chinese tourists jamming WS. There were also a ton of Indians out, often with 2 to 4 guys trying to make deals. It always cracks me up, but all seemed nice and friendly with everyone who was out.

I walked back and forth a few times before deciding to enter a gogo bar. I saw Bee standing out free lancing looking nice. Bee has sort of dogged me over several trips to Pattaya but I doubt any readers her remember. She latches on and doesn't want to let go. I think she saw me but I walked on and she didn't come after me. Not sure why I try to avoid her. She is cute enough. Well, duh, did I not just say she likes to latch on and not let go?! That, and her pussy stunk the one time I was with her?

But other than two mini, Halloween-sized candy bars, I had had nothing to eat since breakfast. I thought maybe I would grab something after Soi 6 but didn't, and I had thought I would get something on WS, but I didn't, though I really didn't feel that hungry for some reason. I have put on a few pounds since last trip and need to take control of my eating, hence the Halloween candy I brought from home. But with no feelings of being overly hungry, I was going to check out some gogos for you guys, and I started off at Infinity at a bit after midnight. A smaller gogo, it had a decent selection of hot girls dressed in maid's costumes. A hot girl named Po (pronounced like poo, and I think #61) took a liking to me and won me over with her charms. The music was ear busting and I could barely hear anything, but the mamasan – who I first mistook for a dancer there as she was young and hot herself), fortunately had it all written down in a book. Bottom line, inclusive of BF and lady fees, ST was 4000 and LT was 6000. Not too unreasonable for a quality WS gogo girl I suppose, but still quite a bit more than a Soi 6 girl, those I had not yet on this trip seen such a girl as hot as Po.

Po was certainly beautiful. Long, great legs, slender body with maybe just an ounce of unneeded fat perhaps, great figure, smallish but soft breasts which she let me kiss, perfect hair and a smiling face that showed the possibility of a wild time in bed. I would not quite call her stunning, though many would. I ended up getting her 3 LDs to one club soda for me. I turned down shots the club was pushing on us, as well as declined a LD for a friend. She had also asked me for 100 be for something to do with smoking, and I don't think she meant the BJ kind of smoking. I refused, though I have no understanding about her asking me for money to smoke. Can someone explain? So her one downside was she smoked but, for now, she refrained. She had to get up to dance and she arranged to dance right in front of me. For some reason, she handed me a cigarette while dancing. I set it on the ash tray. After her dancing, she came back over to try to talk and touch some, and soon lit up. Her friend, who was still there, looked at me and asked me if that was ok that Po was smoking and I said no. She tried to get Po to stop, which she finally did after smoking not even a third of the cigarette. I almost left when she lit up. She knew I didn't like it, and she could have gone to the back to smoke it, but whatever. Since she stopped, I stayed with her and then finally bar fined her, saying "no more smoking". I may have slightly overplayed it, but I hate smoke and I have the money, though all the bars allow it so I give in or go without.

So I paid the fee and bar fine and she went back to change. She looked awesome when she came out in her regular clothes, showing off her lean figure, hair and gorgeous face. I note that I had a small umbrella that I carried in my back pocket, as it was to have rained that night. It didn't, and it was next to me on the couch. Seeing it, she picked it up to carry for me, I assumed. We took a motor bike back to my Soi 13 hotel for 100 be total.

In my room, she rushed to take a shower while I locked up all my spare money in the safe. I like to be safe with any girl I have, regardless that I have never had a problem with anyone. Then I took my shower and came out to the view of a lovely young lady naked in my bed waiting to have sex with me. I am guessing she is mid-20's, but the light in my room and in the club was dim, so she could be anywhere from 20 to 30 I suppose. She started off slow and we cuddled next to each other, kissing and touching. Great way to start! But then, too soon, she wanted to break out the condom but I said no. I doubted I would be able to come with her and wanted time to simply hold this beautiful young creature a little while longer before being further frustrated. I was rock hard from the Kamagra so I did not hold off too long, finally accepting her offer to put the condom on. She was on her back and I got in between her legs, put it in, and glided slowly inside her. No kids had been in that pussy and I took a while to get all of me inside her. I was using my Sagami 02's which felt, well, like a condom, so while I could detect her tightness, I can't detect that wondrous softness and wetness that is a pussy. She was not all that wet, possibly due to disinterest or due to proceeding too quickly, I was fearful of breakage so, concerned for her comfort as well as mine and for my safety, I got out some lube, which helped immensely.

With comfortable sex now, she got this intense look on her. She was either in pain or was in ecstasy. She assured me she was ok, and the way she looked with her pleasure (I assumed) was making me hotter. Could I come with her? Well, before trying too hard, I had to have her in doggy, so we switched and she seemed to like it. But she was drying out again, so maybe it was all an act. More lube went on, plus condom un-stretching, then back to missionary and I tried but, as you know, failed. What is wrong with me? Not many old guys get to screw these hot young women, so what can't I come?

Po did lay in bed with me for a while and we talked a little. I asked where she was from (Issan) and while her English was horrible, I figured out that her parents had taken care of her, but then her mother died, and she feels it is her turn to take care of the family. So, she is doing this and she sends money home to her father and sister. She was practically in tears, it being clear she misses home, but she feel she has to do this so her family can survive. This is a too-frequently heard story.

The Kamagra was still keeping me hard and she said I could try again, but the feelings were dead now. I felt sorry for situation, but also still glad that I was helping her is some strange way that many would say was immoral. She expressed her own view of the morality of the situation by asking me to LT her tomorrow. Sure baby. Your are nice and sweet enough, but this was not a GFE, so no. She dressed and started to leave and I looked around for my umbrella. She said she didn't have it and seemed to indicate it might have been left downstairs. Well, she was the one carrying it in, and I just knew she had it stashed in her bag. I started to get dressed to go down with her to get it when, lo and behold, she found it in her bag! Sure baby. My initial instincts were right – she wanted my cute umbrella!

Po was an ok provider, but I will not repeat. I had to ask for a BJ and while she did a little touching, very little kissing and touching. She is very pretty and that is worth something, but give me Ning who, at about the same age, can give a near-GFE. Infinity Club does have some hot women. Po is worth doing once, or maybe one of the other girls there. We all have different chemistries and never really know who might just set off some fires. Just don't assume that the more expensive the girl, the better the service.

FL Hawk

10-19-17, 04:58

Trying to get caught up guys.

I had encounters with three ladies, two on Soi 6 in the afternoon, and a FL girl from Red Car that night. All were good experiences.

I will skip the side stories and concentrate on my mongering. I started off on Soi 6, as my usual custom. I started off by seeing Ning again. I was looking, sort of, for my next Noi, and would Ning be it? Probably not, after my second encounter. I mean, she was just as sweet as before, but the performance really was no different. That performance was again near GFE in many ways I mean, but it didn't go to the next level of pure passion as I it did with Noi. Really nothing new to report here. I may try again.

The second was Pop at Red Point Bar. Pop was a teenage delight. She caught my eye as a near-hottie as I walked by, and I was surprised to learn she was 19. I was concerned about inexperience as she was fairly new with this. One thing I like about Red Point as they have upgraded their upstairs with nice clean, rust-free, bathrooms. Too many of the other bars are disgusting, with tiny showers with nails for towel hangers, if they even have a hangar, and rusty doors and public hallways. I am a little lacking in memory in the encounter with her for some reason that has nothing to do with her service. She gave a really good BBBJ and was attentive and caring in her session. Sorry for my limited report with her, and I think I might see her again, if for no other reason than to write a proper report. I know I left pleased with the service. As always, 1000 be for the session, and I think the BF was 300, possibly 350.

I came back to the hotel to nap, and I slept until about 10:30, but unable to get out of bed until after 11 PM. Jet lag and a messed up schedule with the potential Trophy Wife were doing me in! I caught a bus to WS and the place was packed on this Sunday night. I did a lot of aimless walking (while wondering if I might sometime come across the infamous Cheap Charlie of YouTube fame), but not really knowing what I wanted to do. I did step in to Windmill and did see a guy pay to lick a girl's pussy. Hmmm, I don't get that. It is very rare that I will lick a hooker's pussy! The women there were not too bad looking actually, but it was not my kind of place. I left after 15 minutes. I entered a new club, Bypass, being promised cheap drinks, including my soda. I was charged regular price. The girls were ok, but I was not impressed and I left after only about 5 minutes, my drink most untouched. Some of these places really hustle you in and brag outside how great it all is, but if the place was really great they would not need to hustle.

To keep this short (relatively), I ended up back at Red Car at about 2:30 AM. I had been there earlier and it had been reasonably full, but as I entered it this time I passed to ladies who were leaving who said now was a good time to be there. It had a lot fewer people, and I soon learned the club would be closing down. But first, I got my Bangkok Breeze, a non-alcoholic, sugary drink. Not exactly a man's drink, with a big topping of pineapple and a cherry, but I am too old to care what others think. I simply don't care for the taste of alcohol. I was sitting at the counter, which now had plenty of free space, was eating the pineapple so as to make the unmanly drink look less girly. I noticed a lady smiling at me as I did that. I flexed my muscles at her and she cracked up laughing. I also noticed another woman looking at me later, but I stayed where I was. The second woman got picked up by some fat dude, but it was now clear the bar was shutting down. I decided to leave, not really sure the first lady, who continued to glance at me, was worth it, but I walked by her and mentioned the bar must be closing. She laughed (she did a lot of laughing), and she asked if she could go with me. Well, this was an easy pickup! She was dark and obviously from Issan, but was tall and larger boned, so no spinner here, but other than some belly fat, was well proportioned. So, why not take her with me?

We were not quite ready to leave WS, so went to 808 which was pretty full but we found a table and she put some moves on me. It was painfully loud there, and the smoke was horrible, but fortunately she wanted to leave within 20 minutes. It was approaching 3:30 now. We got a motorbike to my hotel, again the two of us for 100 Baht total. She was laughing and carried her beer she had originally gotten at Red Car. She was a crazy woman, but in a good way. At the hotel, we each showered separately and got into bed and somehow this woman got me so hot. I can't say anything in particular excited me too much, but her passion and personality got to me and I just knew this woman was going to get me off. And you know what, I did, even with a condom! I can't point to anything she did or whatever, but I was due for one and it was powerful. It did take a bit to get over the edge, but I got there!

We finished at about 4:30 AM and though I was no longer frustrated sexually, I was tired and kind of wished she would leave. I asked what time she wanted to wake up she said she had to be at work at 8 AM! She was a maid. Ummm, you aren't going to get much sleep! She said yeah, then added that maybe she should leave as she didn't want to wake me up when she had to wake. Even if I wanted, it was clear I was not going to get a second chance at a pop, so I was fine with that and I handed her a stash of bills amounting to 1500 be. She hadn't ask for any fee, and she didn't even count what I gave her. She was still acting funny when she left, saying she is at Red Car (as it is smoke free) about every evening and she hopes to see me there again. Well, she was awesome and gave me an awesome orgasm somehow, but once may be enough with her. She was probably in her 30's, but I would not yet refer to her as a mature woman. Her breasts were nice enough and she probably had a kid or two, but I really wasn't paying attention nor did I ask. No regrets really about her looks for a pickup from Red Car.

EihTooms

10-19-17, 05:23

I am enjoying your reports. It is impressive that you even have the names of the beaches correct. Then it is kind of jarring for me to read "bath" when baht is widely accepted as the correct spelling. Just a friendly suggestion.

C4 T.Part of the problem is one can often see sales signs and wall board menus all around Thailand, obviously ordered or written by native Thais, spelling the word as "Bath". That is so even in some of the most farang popular shopping malls in Bangkok. So it is understandable that many farangs would see it spelled that way in Thailand and assume that is the correct or preferred English spelling of it.

Whoever writes it out that way for signs in Thailand probably thinks it doesn't matter how it is spelled in English since it would sound the same to them spelled either way and isn't even thinking about the word "bath" meaning something else entirely to native English speakers and, consequently, how the use of it spelled that way can be confusing in a sentence.

Lefeu

10-19-17, 07:30

...why does one think all girls working a Go Go got to be good looking...Could it be because they cost quite a bit of money, when you add the LDs for the girl, her friends, her mamasan, etc.

One could easily pick a FL from Beach road for a lot less money, and that's exactly what I have been doing recently. Unless she is really pretty, I have generally no interest in a Go GO girl.

XXL

10-19-17, 08:35

Yesterday ckecked several massage shops on 2nd road northward of Central Festival until I spotted a masseuse with some looks. After some misunderstanding I understood she was not available. "Holy shit" I thought to myself. "Now even high street masseuses keep themselves for Japanese and Coreans!". Then it turned out the girl I wanted was "the boss" and that's why she was not available. Note that a younger and better looking girl being the manager of a place makes sense. Looks will attract money and position.

Today as I write I'm being footmassaged by a quite cute young thing. I'm propositioning her for tonight but she says "cannot go hotel". She won't say why, just "cannot", then she suggests her one of her coworkers instead, the latter not ugly at all but much less feline, in fact no more than the typical soi 6 girl. I surmise the "cannot" girl has some man providing for her and she's only allowed to do legit massages. Without any common language it's difficult to dig any deeper.

Mr Enternational

10-19-17, 08:37

Part of the problem is one can often see sales signs and wall board menus all around Thailand, obviously ordered or written by native Thais, spelling the word as "Bath".Great time to bring this up. Can anyone explain this catastrophe? This is transcribed into English nothing like it is spoken. When I first saw it back in March I was like wtf. Surely they could have found any random bar girl that could have done a better job.

Banana Boi

10-19-17, 09:06

Then it turned out the girl I wanted was "the boss" and that's why she was not available. Note that a younger and better looking girl being the manager of a place makes sense. Looks will attract money and position.A Sponsor could have funded her to open a massage shop. Appears the condition was she is not allowed to massage.

LittleBigMan

10-19-17, 09:15

Could it be because they cost quite a bit of money, when you add the LDs for the girl, her friends, her mamasan, etc.

One could easily pick a FL from Beach road for a lot less money, and that's exactly what I have been doing recently. Unless she is really pretty, I have generally no interest in a Go GO girl.When you talk about looks it is endless but what I noticed those who preaches it never seem follow their own advice. As you indicate you have no interest in Go Go, I have no interest on Beach whether they are good looking or not that is because I never walk the beach. If that is your things I say more power to you and no one should knock it, nor should anyone be knocking those who enjoy Go Go, but drinks or not!

Everyone has their own taste and their own agenda, I'm not knocking you whatever you do and want to pay that is up to you as they say. But I rather seat in a A / C in a Go Go than be hot in the heat. I'm as black as a Thai, after a long day when I go out it is to eat western food and relax in a Go-Go. See I've been here too long and see it this way it is a matter of time my number is coming up? So when it comes to "Cost" as I noted if you go to a Go Go, expect the best and maybe the worse and if the worse is you get caught off guard and end up buying drinks $$ that is life. People talk about the " price police " but refer to only the girls and then get bent over a few ladies drinks. At this point in my life I say do as you please, everyone is going to pay their dues and I don't care if you live here or been around the block a number of times. In the end, be consistent to what one preach.

Mr Enternational

10-19-17, 13:44

I surmise the "cannot" girl has some man providing for her and she's only allowed to do legit massages.Why would you surmise that instead of thinking maybe she is just not a hooker?

XXL

10-19-17, 17:02

I had given up on soi 6 and its herds of interchangeable 5 feet tall cheerleaders and I was preparing to go without sex tonight when a Beach Road girl whispered "500 short time". This was such a ridiculous price I took her up on her offer.

She had an ugly cesarian scar. She must have had a beautiful face when young. She was undisputably the least sex-appealing lay I'd had for years. What I hadn't reckoned with was that she was going to respond to my somewhat mechanical pounding like she hadn't had sex for months and her life depended on it. If I ever had a case of P6 where I equally deserved to get paid that was it. Not the best fuck of my life but one of the most memorable all the same.

Could this open up new vistas of affordable sex fun in Thailand? Slumming it with wretched sex-starved souls?

Mr Enternational

10-19-17, 18:23

I was preparing to go without sex tonight when a Beach Road girl whispered "500 short time". This was such a ridiculous price I took her up on her offer.500 baht is the normal price for ST on Beach Road.

Sunlover2

10-19-17, 23:36

Could this open up new vistas of affordable sex fun in Thailand? Slumming it with wretched sex-starved souls?I have gone this P4 P route once or twice where you are the hotter of the pair, and she is the desirous / grateful one. Think of it as a pity fuck that is giving her the cheap thrill; although being with a less attractive woman can be drudgery akin to the dreaded NWE (near wife experience) 555.

In other words: You know what you got to do, Cowboy.

SL.

Banana Boi

10-20-17, 06:56

I knew before heading out last night many girls have gone home this week anticipating some gogo bar closures and being with family for the King's funeral. Walking Street was very quiet last night for both customers and girls. Every gogo bar I hit there were about half as many girls as a normal Thursday evening.

I was told by one gogo girl that her bar will be closed on October 25 and 26. Let's hope others only close on October 26.

BionicMan

10-20-17, 13:10

BionicMan

10-20-17, 13:15

Paolo99

10-20-17, 15:23

Great time to bring this up. Can anyone explain this catastrophe? This is transcribed into English nothing like it is spoken. When I first saw it back in March I was like wtf. Surely they could have found any random bar girl that could have done a better job.Problem is that you cannot have the same sound by using English words so you can write it anyway you want, it will not sound as it is spoken in Thai.

XXL

10-21-17, 15:21

Given the nature of the service in soapies, spelling the Thai currency "bath" is not such a bad mistake as in other venues.

30 years or so ago with wife in Thailand I had escaped to a massage place called "Sabailand". I remember the girl I had back then quite well. She had a Swiss boyfriend. She was curious about go-go bars but she was proud of working in a soapie because "here I can earn in a hour what a go-go girl earns in a whole day". Swiss boyfriend, struggling go-go girls, things have changed huh? I also remember Sabailand as a big house surrounded by trees and Pattaya as wall-to-wall beer bars, no tall buildings. From what I've read Sabaidee is not even the ex-Sabailand but the location is very similar.

This Friday early afternoon Sabaidee had no more than a handful of girls on duty. I picked the taller of the lot. She was also among of the more expensive ones (yellow badge, 2400 baht instead of 2000). The "helper" said "no tip?" as I pocketed the whole change at the cashier.

The girl had a good slim figure. Her triangular nose was (had been?) raised at an angle of 50-60 from the horizontal. Her nostrils were two circular gaping wholes looking at me like the 2nd pair of eyes of a spider. The room had a mirror and the bed was good. The faking was professional and there was no complaint at my pounding. I went without tipping. This is the closest I've had in this Thailand trip to the German FKK experiences I've grown accustomed to.

Now for the paranoia: this girl was the tallest of the lot available, she insisted on "look not lick" in 69 position, her breasts were perfect but come to think of it somewhat artificially rectangular shaped, don't tell me she could've been a transgender!? I could find nothing on the internet suggesting a place like Sabaidee would employ TGs.

Banana Boi

10-21-17, 21:13

A disastrous night on Walking Street tonight. Other than Sensations, Baccara, and Tantra the clubs I visited were running very low on girls. All my girls were missing.

Big rain tonight. On the bright side I visited a club I never go to, Lighthouse. I met a very pretty young one in Simon Complex. I also met a very cute one while walking in over knee high water along Soi Diana. We were taking photos of one another.

FL Hawk

10-22-17, 06:21

Pattaya Trip Report – Day 4 (Monday).

Sorry I am running late with these reports guys. I am trying to step it up!

I slept later today, not waking until 10:20 AM, and that was with a headache. I managed to get up and put some dirty laundry together to take to the laundry place. I thought of getting breakfast. I have been eating at a hotel buffet just north of the Dynasty, but instead walked around a little. I decided to get an internet plan for my phone, and went up to Central Festival to check on plans. I found a place but they would not accept a photocopy of my passport. While there, I decided to have lunch down in the basement food court, having rice and chicken. Not too bad for 50 be. I then went back to my hotel and prepared to head to Soi 6, packing my passport with the intention of returning to CF after I returned from Soi 6.

I arrived on the soi around 2 PM I guess. Lots of ladies though fewer gentlemen. I was called over by a lady outside Foxy who I had briefly met when inquiring about Noi previously. She was an older lady who started to introduce me to some of the other ladies, pointing out one who was new. She was not quite my type. A tiny bit chubby, perhaps, certainly not my normal spinner type, though young and pretty. After my night with the funny FL lady from Red Car however, I was more open to the non-spinner types. So, I accepted this newby's offer for a drink inside and we go sit down. Her name is Nam, from Issan of course, and she claimed to be 23. I believe the age. She had two kids which almost turned me off, and her English was practically nonexistent, but we managed to communicate with the Google language app. Not really sure how it would go with someone who had a few more pounds that I cared for, I decided to go on and bar fine her. She seemed like she would be good in bed for some reason.

As she had only been there 5 days, and the implication was that she was totally new to this, I wondered how the session would go. But sometimes you ask a girl how long they have been there and they say "two weeks", it can mean they have worked in a bar for years, only having just returned from a visit home two weeks ago. This girl, I believe, literally just started screwing for money, or at least screwing for money in Pattaya, a few weeks ago. My expectations for newbies is that they will either be like girlfriends, as they know no other way to have sex yet, or they will freeze up in fear and be duds (but God bless them as I cannot fathom what it must be like to start off in the sex selling business). At this stage, I did not know which type she would be. She quickly let me know which she was.

Before we started undressing prior to the shower, she started kissing and touching me standing up. This had only happened with one other Soi 6 girl, Noi. Nam had only done some light touching in the bar, so this caught me by surprise. We basically undressed each other standing up, then we started into many minutes of hot DFK action and major groping. Like with Noi 6 months earlier, we skipped the shower to engage in some hot foreplay. I laid her down with her feet still the floor. I explored her V and found she was dripping and inviting. Oh man, she would feel so good bare back. Sigh. With more DFK and lots of touching and groping and probing, I put on my Aoni condom and entered her with her feet still on the floor, lying back in bed. With my entry, she became a bit of an animal. Except for no bare back, this was a pure GFE. She was wild as well as delightful. Her larger body felt fine and only now that I am writing this report did I really notice that she had a couple of spare pounds. Again, she was not obes, as she had no fat hanging down or anything. Her breasts showed signs of suckling by being a tad bit droopy, but not too bad. Eventually we moved fully to the bed, we did doggie and back to missionary. For a while I thought possibly I could come but, of course, I often feel that and nothing happens. Same here. But her bucking and moaning seemed legit, and I was exhausted when I finally pulled out. One gem is at one point I said I was slowing down, she said that she wasn't! Wow. But with me spent, she went to work orally again, then manually, until I finally grabbed my phone with the language app to tell her my problem and to stop. She still wanted to try, but I calmed her down and for a good long while we simply cuddled with slow kisses and light kissing until the shower. Her being a bit overweight was not a factor at all. Nothing mechanical about her and no rushing at all. So, other than no bare back, this was the epitome of a GFE. I mean, she spent longer than an hour with me and was in no hurry to leave. But yeah, to me it seemed she felt closeness to me and wanted to experience the positives of what the business can bring. Not for certain she came a time or two, but I think so. Anyway, after Pop and Nam, I think I have represented my fellow sexagenarians well! Well, except for the inability to come part.

As she was so sweet and caring I gave a 200 be tip on top of the 1000 fee and 350, I think, BF. Maybe it was 300. Who cares, the difference is small! I may see her again if I don't hung up with her her full body.

Leaving her behind, I was debating about stopping to see another Soi 6 girl. I knew there would be no hope of coming after the Red Car girl last night, but as I was walking west, a really cute girl at bar I forgot the name of called out. I will get the name for you guys, if I can remember to do that. She was a cute, young spinner, the kind I have generally liked. I went inside with her. She spelled her name as Pur, but it is pronounded as puri, accent on the ri. Her English was better than Nam's, but not by much. She got out her phone with a translation app and I saw a picture of a kid, so I knew she was a mama. Well, she seemed nice and her body was still slender and seemingly hot, so why not? Some of these ladies can have a kid and you can barely tell.

We went up stairs to another dump of a room and each undressed. No shower. She has me lay down and almost immediately she started rubbing on me and when I am half hard she puts on the condom. Oh great, this is not going to go well. I could have slowed her down, but I am not having a good feeling about this. For one, she reminds me of the daughter of someone I know, and I am slightly freaked by it. I get over it mostly, but things usually don't go well when the woman rushes (though I have been proven wrong on that blanket statement). I never really got hard and while she got me inside her, it was indeed a disaster. I gave up after a minute or two. Apcalis can't get one hard when they are not aroused. She offered a HJ, no oral, and I let her try rubbing for another minute or two just to make her do a little bit of work, then I told her to stop. We sort of cuddled for a minute or two, but it was awkward so I gave up on that too. She did indeed have a beautiful body with very few signs of childbirth. Her breasts were small but fine and her body was firm and tight, and she smelled nice with nice makeup applied. She said was was 26, but could pass as 21. She was smiling and was friendly, but when I said we could end it, she hopped right up and herded me into the shower, washing only my genital area. Maybe for a younger guy just wanting to screw a sweet young thing she would be very good, but not for an older dude who needs to take things a little slow.

Needless to say, no tip for her. Pretty girl indeed, but a total disaster for me.

I headed back to CF to eat a bite, then returned to the hotel to catch up on my reports. I also tried to take a nap but was largely unsuccessful, finally heading out to WS at about 11:30. BR was again busy, with FL girls just 10 yards / meters from the police outpost. WS was not quite as busy as yesterday, but still doing well. I get my exercise by walking back and forth on Walking Street. There was not much going on that I could see, and I really have no reports on any of the gogos. IBar was not even overly packed at 1 AM.

I went into Red Car a couple of times. The DJ had a very nice looking blond Thai woman up with him, with live video of her signing to the music, karaoke style. She was quite sexy indeed. I left and soon returned and as I was walking around, a mature woman caught my eye but I exited again after a few minutes. It was never packed, but not until a bit after 1 AM was just beginning to clear a little where there may have been a free seat to be found. When I came back later the mature lady was there, and she sort reminded of a lady I might have been with there in the past. She was alone and had definitely been looking at me, so I walked over to ask if we had met. She said no, but that her name was On and she was a maid. Hmm, I had a Red Car maid yesterday. Would it be two maids in a row? We continued with some small talk for just a minute or two then she asks if I am ready to leave with her? Well, um, I guess that saves me from having to buy drinks. What is with maids that let them skip the small talk and get down to business? Oh, maybe the fact they have to be at work at 8 AM? I really was not looking to give up on my searching back on the street, but I consented as I was a bit tired.

We left and headed for the motorbikes. I used to prefer the baht buses around the corner on 2nd road, but with transportation for 2 for just 100 be, I came to like that better. So, we go over at the WS entrance and ask for a ride. The chosen driver comes over and as we are about to get on I confirm the price, asking "100 Baht for both, right?" The driver looks at me and says "no, 100 Baht each". I say no, the last two nights here it has been 100 for two. " he refuses so I find another guy who will do it. I showed him!

At the hotel, I asked if she wanted to take a shower first, and she asked why don't we shower together? Wow, this was starting off good. The shower was ok but nothing special. She asked my age and she thought I was 4 years younger, saying I had a good body and that is what she liked when she saw me. She also commented I have the body that many of them (mature Thai ladies) liked. I am a few pounds overweight now, but I guess I am still holding it well, but I am right on the border of having developing a gut. I am walking a ton here and trying to control my eating to get a start on losing some weight. I think what kills me is I eat little during the day at home, but pig out at night. I will have a self-cooked dinner, then I feel hungry a little while later and will have a snack, then maybe a big bowl of cereal before bed. Cereal, of course, is low in calories. Yep, that is how you get fat over several years.

Anyway, sorry. I asked her age and got two answers. She said 50 at first, then she said 38. Well, the Trophy Wife was 37 and On looked decades older, so 50 might be closer to the truth. But you never know. On has probably had a hard life with her 3 kids and a deserter for a husband and got stuck working as a maid. I would have though mid 40's. Her body, for that age, wasn't too bad, but I did have some regrets about acting so quickly to bring her back. Money is not much of an object, so why settle for a mature woman, even if more age-appropriate for me, when I can have young hotties? Well, I do like a little variety. And, too, I remember a lady much like her who gave the most incredible BBBJ of my life, so I was still anxious to see what would happen.

The experience was so-so. She just wanted to screw, and she enjoyed herself, no doubt. Some nice touching and kissing started it off. Her skin was soft at least and she did her job to get me hard. I pulled out a condom from my drawer in the dark, only to find out I had chosen the last of my skin condoms from my last trip after I opened it up. I was saving that one, but whatever. I have only used a couple of these, and last trip didn't really feel much difference when using them. I have to admit that this time, I do think they may have been a little better, and after entering her and after she starting bucking and moaning I, again, thought maybe I would release with this one. Perhaps I could, but I also wondered if I wanted to expend a rare release with an older woman, or should I save it up for a cutie? OK, I think too much! I didn't really hold back, but I didn't really try to come either after that. We bumped and pumped and grinded in missionary, doggy and then missionary again. She was seriously into it, later confirming her own orgasms. I tried to hide the fact I didn't release, but when we were done (me exhausted) she checked the condom. I assured her it was ok, as she wanted to continue working to get me of.

I really didn't want her to stay the night, and politely hinted I wanted to sleep alone. She would have been happy to stay but, as I told her, you need to get up early to go to work, so she left. We took our shower together and, clean, dry and dressed, I gave her 1000 and she seemed reasonably happy. I mean, we had not been together much longer than an hour so I felt that was quite adequate. I hate to judge her looks being a mature lady, but for her age she was maybe a 6 or 7. Not really proud to have been with her, but the deed is done and her performance was acceptable. No BJ, but I didn't ask for one, so I am not able to rate her performance compared to the other lady who blew me away with her blow job. I will not give On a no rating, but I will not see her again. My Pattaya trip is now half down, and I can't waste time on the mature women unless they are Trophy Wife material.

I can add I have been in contact with a few Tinder girls. Haven't set up anything yet. And there is a cute young professional lady I met on Thai Cupid who is too young for me for a romantic relationship but for some reason keeps chatting with me. I have thought several times she was putting me off, especially after we video chatted, but each time she would keep the conversation going. She, I am sure, is a good girl. No hint of wanting to make some money in her spare time, so I have kept the conversation innocent, and maybe that is why she keeps texting me back, thought at a slow pace. As I don't consider my relationship with her to be a relevant to this report, I will only hit the highlights as, and if, there are any. But it appears we will meet soon, thought I doubt I will be even able to score a kiss with this one.

So, three girls today in a repeat encounter, a very nice encounter with a girl larger than I normally like, but full of passion, and then an older FL Red Car lady whose performance fell short.

FL Hawk

10-22-17, 07:13

Pattaya Trip Report Day 5 (Tuesday).

Today will close out the first half of my 10-day visit to Pattaya. Tomorrow I will also switch hotels from the Dynasty Inn on Soi 13 to the Flipper House on Soi 7. I am not really sure which hotel I like the best. I may do a report comparing the two on the Pattaya Hotels board.

Anyway.

Today I first spent cleaning up the last few day's reports. Sorry they have remained behind. I also discovered that I have a huge fungal infection on my butt. (You can skip the rest of this paragraph!) I get these types of infections fairly often and simple OTC or prescription creams cleared them up in short order. No longer! I had one a few months ago that required a stronger oral anti-fungal treatment, which started clearing things up, but when the med's ran out the infection came back and the creams wouldn't stop it. The doc refilled the oral prescription, but hauled me back in for an exam. Things had cleared up fairly well when she saw me. I said I would be traveling and asked for a refill in case the fungus flared up again. She refused, citing concerns about kidney issues with continued use, and would only refill the script for the cream. Well, Monday night I felt an itch in my butt area and in checking Tuesday morning, I had a pretty good crop of fungus growing down there! It looked like ringworm again bright red and on both butt cheeks. Previously it has been in the inner thighs. Sigh. I stopped at a Pharmacy on Soi 13/2, the one on the north side, and spoke with a semi-pretty and quite knowledgeable pharmacist. She knew immediately the drug I wanted, but suggested a different one as being more appropriate. No doctor and no prescription and the cost was just 90 baht for a 10 day supply. (Later I went to another pharmacy, the one just west of the Flipper House, midway down (not the closet one), for just 60 be for a 10 day supply. But yeah, heat and humidity tend to make it flare up. I have pretty much gotten it on each trip to Thailand I make, and it often flares up at home in the summer, but the creams always have cleared it up. Note: After several days, the meds have been working great and the redness is gone. I mention this mainly to show that some simple medical issues can be taken care of by going to a pharmacy and talking with a real pharmacist. The one I mentioned is highly recommended. Ok, I am done talking gross.

So back to mongering now. I was back on Soi 6 by 2:30 PM or so. I started walking west and soon enough saw a cute spinner smiling my way at the Offshore Bar. I went over and she invited me inside for refreshment. Her name was Far. It was pronounced more like Fa, with just a hint of the AR sound. She seemed nice, being really cute, as I said. The body, in the right clothes, would be stunning, and her face was quite attractive. Body at least a 9, face an 8. Her English was not good, but was good enough. Like all of them, she was from Issan, and had been there for a few weeks. I tried to ask if she had been in Pattaya previously, to get an idea of how long she had really been a provider, but the language barrier was too great. I bought her a drink (she chose a bottle of beer) and decided to BF her. The BF there was 350 and her fee was 1000.

She pretty much let me shower on my own. When I saw her body from the front, it was not too bad. She is quite flat, and I guess it was hard to tell that she was a mommy. I say hard to tell as she had a flat stomach, but the shape of her breasts, even though flat, kind of looked like they had been suckled on. I do not recall being able to see any childbirth marks, but in dim light they could be difficult to see. Other than that, though, she looked fine and especially from behind, she was smoking hot.

The session was not quite up to my expectations however. She was nice and accommodating, and she offered a BJ which was done nicely, but still at bit mechanical and by the book. It wasn't done in a fast manner, but she wasn't taking her time either. She was pleasant and a tad bit playful though. She was 27 she said. She said I was big (I am not), and she took me all in easily from her on-top position, then commenced to bounce and grind away in apparent enjoyment. We switched to doggie and back and she really seemed to by trying to enjoy it, with a few squeals. She kept drying out, though, and I had to break out my small bottle of lube. I encourage all of you guys to take over a small bottle as the girls don't always have it, and they do dry out and then they hurt and then you hurt. This has saved me many times from having to continually use my spit. But my condoms continue to stretch and bunch up, which contributes to the poor sensitivity.

I have been speaking somewhat favorably of her when I originally said she wasn't up to my expectations. Well, she kind of played it by the book, and she seemed to be getting her own pleasures out of it which is great, and even when I, of course, failed to come, she actually lied down with me for while to unwind. So, well, maybe she was better than I gave her credit for. I don't know what it is. Yeah, I do think she had some fun, but, well, IDK. I sensed no affection towards me really. She was nice, but there was no emotion behind the niceness, unlike some of the other girls. So, I can recommend her as she is really cute and will have you drooling from at least the back side view, but there may not be much real emotion there. But we can't expect a bar girl to have too much of that for us all can we? No regrets seeing her, but I won't see her again. (Yes, I know this is strange report for her, but I am running out of time and memories during my review process to dwell on it.).

Next, and being highly frustrated from no orgasm, I figured I might do another girl on Soi 6, but Ning was out and saw me. I went over and said I would buy her a drink but probably no boom boom. Well, there was boom boom. This time was a different level to GFE. The BBBJ was slower and more sensual and I was really close to coming. When that failed, I just had her lie next to me, knowing intercourse would only frustrate me more at that point. We held each other for a good long while, staying warm in each other's arms as the fan and AC blew down. It was quite nice actually, and she pretty much fell asleep. I did go on and get hard again as her closeness got me horny, and I wanted to enter her again, but when I did I was so upset with the lack of being able to feel anything I gave up and threw the thing off. Sigh. It has been frustrating. I know a certain percentage of the women will do BB, but I have resisted overly even hinting I want it. Heck, the maid-lady last night told me some men have almost forced her to have unprotected sex, which is just wrong. It is abuse.

But the time together was intimate and nice. I don't know if Ning thinks I am weird or she just is amused, but I suppose most of the ladies would rather take a nap for a while that have some old dude banging hopelessly on them for a long while. Of course Ning has no feelings for me, and I really have none for her, but you don't have to have feelings for a person to enjoy lying naked together.

But when we were done, I headed back towards the hotel. Though early morning forecast called for high rain probabilities during the day, there had again been none, but when I reached BR, there were storm clouds in the distance, and I see the latest forecast shows a 100% chance of rain in a few hours. But tall that means is that somewhere in area will get rain, not necessarily where I am at. I have actually been thrilled that my fear of monsoon like conditions in one of the rainiest months there has hardly had any rain.

At this moment it is 8 PM and no rain. If that continues, I will probably go to WS again. I may even stop by to see my leaching friends at the Peppermint. Fon works there again now, and we have been in contact, but I have the feeling we will fail to meet again. I have had the hots for this beauty since my first visit, but she was then a classic star fish, then she has twice again underperformed, both of those times with no sex in two subsequent encounters. So I know what I am getting myself in for. I know this is a girl to not spend time and money on, but dang if she didn't steal a tiny bit of my heart. No, guys, I am not in love with her or any of that, I need no lectures, but she has indeed been intriguing to me over the years.

So, after a short nap I was walking on WS before 10 PM. It was busy, but not overly so. The rains have not come and radar shows the existing rain far away. To ensure the rains stay away, I bring my small umbrella. Once arriving, I decide to go on and hit Peppermint gogo. I am seated and one of the girls who remembered me from before comes over, then Luk the mamasan finds me and comes over and, to my surprise, introduces me to her daughter who just started working there as a dancer who, yes, goes out with men. Yes, I bought LDs for all but I did limit it to just one. I joked with Luk about shooting me if I wanted to BF her daughter but, no, she wanted me to go out with her. No, the girl is fine looking, but not quite to my gogo girl standards. I inquired about Fon, but was told she does not now work there afterall. After a bit, with the drinks consumed and everyone departed, I paid the bill. Luk saw me leaving and advised I come over Thursday to see the rest of the gang, but without Fon I did not intend to do that. The "gang" are nothing but leeches, and I let them leech.

I left the club and thought I would send Fon, wherever she was at, a Line message saying I was there, and to my surprise she promptly replied that she was now there too, and that she was not working. She said she would meet me back at the Peppermint. So, I met her back there and she was with her two roommates, one who was 19 but, hey, they know how to get drinks, so I bought them a round. She said her mates wanted to go out drinking and would go to I-Club and did I want to join them. It was shere coincidence they were arriving on WS the moment I texted her.

She gave me a good hug when she arrived and we were able to converse a little. Notable to me is to learn her age, 22. I thought she was more like 24, though she will turn 23 in a few days. We first met 2-1/2 years ago when she was 20. I thought she was older. Anyway, I bought a round and when the girls finished their beers we all left together. I was going to let them go on, but Fon motioned for me to follow them. They wanted to go to I-Club but first they went to the other side of the street to a guy who sells alcohol along the side of the road. The girls ordered a bunch of shots, offering me two and insisting I take one. I did. Tequila is horrid stuff. Just horrid. Fon explained the shots there were half what they cost in I-Bar, and I was pleased that no one seemed to think that I would be paying for everything. I handed them money to pay, but it was unexpected.

With that, they headed to I-Bar. I hung back, but again Fon motioned for me to follow. I am really not sure why. I don't think any of them really wanted to hang with an old dude, but what was their purpose for being out? Just to drink? To pick up customers? Now that I was there, to pay for all the drinks until they got picked up? To their credit, they took care of themselves inside. I only paid when I offered to, which was in Peppermint and then on the street. Fon did give some effort to sit close to me and she called me over to look outside (we were on the upper floor) and sit there by the window with her. But I was still uncomfortable being there and after 30 minutes or so I told her I left so they could have fun without me.

I was kind of sad to leave and walking down WS to go home, I passed Bee, the FL girl who has tried many times to latch on to me. She was standing there waiting to get picked up. Cute face, as I have said, but I noticed she, too, had put on a couple of pounds and she looked sad. I can't imagine her life. I was sad, but she may be wondering where she will be able to sleep that next night. I have no idea. I told her I was going to get some ice cream and would she like to join me. She did, and was happy for a few moments. She asked if she could go with me and I said no, but as I left her, I wasn't quite as sad. I hope she had a few minutes of happiness.

FL Hawk

10-22-17, 16:37

Pattaya Trip Report, Day 6 Wednesday.

More people need to post! I hate putting a bunch long posts, one after another, out there at once, but got to catch up!

The move from Dynasty to Flipper House was surprisingly fast. I went down to check out almost precisely at noon (they had rung me up as I was about to leave my room asking if I was staying or wished to renew). I went down and turned over the key card and that was that. Usually I have to wait while they go up to check for snack food consumption, but today they only asked if I had used anything today, and I had not. I left, rolling my bag and carryon to Second Road and hailed a baht bus. I told the driver I was going to Soi 7 and he stopped there without me having to buzz him. I rolled down the short distance to the hotel. Check in time is 2 PM, but the room, a Superior, was ready and I was unpacking at 12:20 PM. Twenty minutes from room to room. Not bad.

I may go into more details in a Pattaya Hotels review, but some things I like about the Flipper House is they have a decent free breakfast. What I don't like is that they have no drawers to put clothes in and, this time, the wifi has been horrible. It keeps disconnecting. I have had it stop in the middle of browsing and would have to re-log in multiple times. It was not like that the last time I was there. Wifi at the Dynasty was good even leaving the room I only occasionally had to log in. I mean, I have had to log in more times in one day, in just a few hours without going anywhere, than I did at the Dynasty my entire stay. At least the room I have now has a separate shower with an actual shower curtain. The mini-suite I had before only had a tub and there was no curtain, so water sprayed throughout the entire bathroom. Not cool. Oh, and they have no desks for writing. I am writing this on a circular, solid table sitting on a big chair with my legs wrapped around the table. Hard on the old body to do this! This is a good mongering hotel, but not for one working on a computer or if you have clothes you can to organize for your stay.

After unpacking and organizing to the extent I could, I headed down to Soi 6, and to be different, chose a bar on the south side to visit. I was drawn in by a girl who had a cute face, but when I saw she had pretty fat legs, and I decided that I just didn't want to waste time and effort on her. I did order my soda water, and she left after a bit, so I simply sat and watched people go by, alone. Soon an older lady there, a mamasan or sorts, tried to look after me and we talked about things. Her English was pretty good and I did see that she actually had a pretty awesome body, at least for her age. I mean, very shapely figure, with only a worn but still pretty face telegraphing that she was not a young, fresh spinner. When she went to the front, I saw her body in silhouette from behind, I was thinking "this woman is hot". She was actually easy to talk to, and we talked mature things and when she asked about my conquests (she knows that the men are there for), I told her about my coming problem and she said she could get me off. I said sure, they all say that! She had no idea the problem she would be facing by taking me on, but I was enjoying the conversation with a mature woman and decided why not? Maybe I need some mental stimulation that the youngsters aren't providing, as well as the physical stimulation, to get off. As many of us know, these older women can open things up in a man the youngsters haven't learned yet.

So I BFed her (300) and we went upstairs (she was 1000). She indeed have a wonderfully shaped body with the curves and that 20 year olds would love to have. From the front, though, some sagging breasts and signs of childbirth, but really she wasn't that bad. She did get me rock hard but, of course, she failed with her promise to get me off. She then offered bare back. I said no, I don't want to get a disease. She replied that she had the same fear of getting diseases she didn't want one either, but with a very few she had a trust for, she would, and if I said I was clean she would trust me. Hmm, this lady is a fool to trust a sexually frustrated man. She said she has regular blood tests, and while I did not ask if that includes HSV (I am sure it does not), I said, well, OK, but I will be fast (so as to minimize the time any little nasties can latch hold and enter me). She sat down on me and the feeling was quite awesome, but I quickly rolled her over to missionary and, maybe because she was just a tiny bit dry, it took me 25 seconds to come, not my usual 20! Haha. She wanted me to pull out when I came, which I did, and I covered her stomach. She was surprised I could be so fast like a teen, but I had given her my reasons for not trying to go slow. I would have loved to have gone slow and enjoy the incredible feeling of vagina to Johnson skin contact with her, but too risky. I am stupid to be doing this as is, and to prolong the contact would be stupider.

I have hesitated to mention I went bareback, as I don't want any lectures about doing it (I know the risks and I am single so I can accept the consequences), but also because I don't want to encourage others to do it. But others have discussed the relative good chances of finding a provider who will do it, and I just happened to find one who was willing to offer it up without being asked for it. But since I don't want the lady to have to fend off potential readers to get bareback, I am giving neither the bar nor the woman's names out and, to be honest, at this point I don't remember which one it was or what her name was. This can be a risky business, so please don't let the fact that I did it make it seem any less risky. The fact that I did it means I am a fool, so be certain you want to be a fool too before you do it.

I went back to the hotel after that, then later that night I returned to Soi 6. I saw Far, though she had to call me out and remind me I had been with her. I simply forget names and faces. The girls can pick me out from a year ago, but I forget by the next day. Sheesh. I BFed her, but I really can't remember anything about the session. I failed to take notes, thinking that I of course remember enough to document the encounter, but I didn't. Sigh. Can you believe that a man can't remember the sex he had just a day or two previously?

I proceed further down and visit another girl I have seen before. I decline to mention names her. Yes, I got bare back again. Twice in one day. I will spare the details leading up to the event, other than I am having my usually troubles coming, especially since I had come earlier that day. She treid a condomless BJ and HJ, but nothing was happening after a long attempt at intercourse. So I am tired and drained. I am lying on my back and she lies on top of me. Well, she wiggles around a little and sort of dry humps me, and before I know it, her pussy has sucked in my Johnson! I go, "How did you do that?" Well, she is humping me and I am a tad concerned yet she is feeling so good. I go brain-locked with conflicts of 'throw her off' to 'OMG, that feels sooooo good". Well, the feelings of pleasure are growing and I think I will able to come again in short order so I go along for the ride. The pressure builds and builds but the climax is slow to come. My body tenses up to near heart-attacking intensity and she keeps pounding up and down. Just as I am about to erupt deep inside her she pulls off me and grabs hold of my erupting Johnson. Oh my. When done, I take a breath, then jump up and run for the shower! She, too, assures me she is safe, and felt like I was a good person and was safe to be with. I said, well, lots of nice people have STDs, and you really should ask before doing something like that! But, yeah, just using her pussy and no hands, she got me inside her. Never had that happen before.

That all left me drained and I came back to Soi 7, first to eat at that wonderful Mexican place (highly recommended for tacos, a burrito and their pork ribs), then to the hotel to rest, catch up on things, and finally try to sleep.

Banana Boi

10-22-17, 19:07

LaoMan

10-23-17, 01:27

Pattaya Trip Report, Day 6 Wednesday.

More people need to post! I hate putting a bunch long posts, one after another, out there at once, but got to catch up!
snippedI really like your reports. They are honest and real, and by far not as self indulgent as those from some others who post a lot here.

ItIsMe83

10-23-17, 01:28

I go to Walking Street quite often and tonight was the first night I noticed the Chinese tour groups in droves. I arrived around 8:30 pm and there were group after group after group of Chinese tourists to the point where you couldn't walk. Even last night I didn't notice them much.Annoying indeed. The real question tho is: who has ever pulled one of those lovely girls from one of those Chinese tourgroups? Now that's a good challenge for anyone!

But yeah. It's getting a bit out of hand. They are full of little kids too. What a holiday for them.

Crocodilexp

10-23-17, 06:54

I go to Walking Street quite often and tonight was the first night I noticed the Chinese tour groups in droves. I arrived around 8:30 pm and there were group after group after group of Chinese tourists to the point where you couldn't walk. Even last night I didn't notice them much.It's not the start of the high season, it's the mid-autumn festival. Chinese typically get a few days off start of October.

Crocodilexp

10-23-17, 07:02

500 baht is the normal price for ST on Beach Road.Since about 2015/16, the going rate on Beach Road is 700 baht, with a few of the prettier ones refusing to go under 1000. Sure, you can still find an occasional ST for 500, especially if it's getting late or business is slow, but it's not the price most will normally take.

500 used to be the going rate for many years, since early 2000's at least. Funny how 500 is an extremely sticky number (and so is 1000).

Naked Gunz

10-23-17, 08:11

I noticed the Chinese tour groups in droves. I arrived around 8:30 pm and there were group after group after group of Chinese tourists to the point where you couldn't walk. .Yeah, Pattaya is an expensive joke at this point. When it got to the point I had to walk for hours looking for hot pucci that's not taken, while dodging tour groups and baby carriage's, I had enough. I have done Patt only once in 5 years. The next time I go am bringing my GF!

Smyke

10-23-17, 08:29

Mogwai

10-23-17, 08:31

More people need to post! I hate putting a bunch long posts, one after another, out there at once, but got to catch up!

Sorry I am running late with these reports guys. I am trying to step it up!

Trying to get caught up guys.No need to apologize Hawk. You are there to get laid as much as you can, not to write as much as you can LOL. It's your HOLIDAY, so enjoy it and don't feel pressed to write (long) FRs.

I used to write long FRs as well in the past (on a Dutch forum for the most part, and sometimes on this forum) but I gave up on it when I realized it took so much time that it was ruining my holiday.

Zman429

10-23-17, 09:01

Since about 2015/16, the going rate on Beach Road is 700 baht, with a few of the prettier ones refusing to go under 1000. Sure, you can still find an occasional ST for 500, especially if it's getting late or business is slow, but it's not the price most will normally take.

500 used to be the going rate for many years, since early 2000's at least. Funny how 500 is an extremely sticky number (and so is 1000).I seem to get a lot of 500st offers don't do many but they're usually very good. I'm staying on Soi 8 now and the bar girls have not been as good as last time hoping the drought ends soon. Tinder has been very good as has Soi Diana.

Bogman

10-23-17, 14:07

FLHawk.

Great trip reports. Looking forward to next instalment.

Bogman.

Banana Boi

10-23-17, 15:01

It's not the start of the high season, it's the mid-autumn festival. Chinese typically get a few days off start of October.I know it's not real high season but it's my interpretation on when high season begins. Chinese tourists were up five-fold last night vs. the entire week before. I doubt it's the Moon Cake festival effect that occurred over 2 weeks ago.

Member #4591

10-23-17, 18:26

How do you tell a Thai girl you have had a vasectomy, so she doesn't freak out if a condom breaks?

I have tried the word vasectomy and got blank looks and then made a sign of scissors near my nut-sack, still no comprehension.Just a stupid thought but have you ever heard of google translate? It's this neat website you can go to and write English and it will then display Thai. You can use it on this nest thing called a smart phone or computer.

Syzygies

10-23-17, 20:30

Just a stupid thought but have you ever heard of google translate? It's this neat website you can go to and write English and it will then display Thai. You can use it on this nest thing called a smart phone or computer.Ha ha! Not a word I have had to use before in relation to a male. Did talk to Mrs. about her female dogs ought to be neutered. Having puppies arriving was a nuisance.

https://translate.google.com.au/?hl=en&tab=wT#auto/en/%E0%B8%9C%E0%B8%A1%20%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B3%E0%B8%AB%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%99%20%E0%B9%81%E0%B8%A5%E0%B9%89%E0%B8%A7

Click on speaker symbol to hear the words spoken by a lady.

Tricky to pronounce correctly as has a rising tone (which I did not even know myself having heard the word rarely). I have heard the term "Tham man" (sterilization) only in relation to animals before I think but it still works for humans too. It does not require the detail of exactly what is done. "Man" has at least 5 other meanings, with other tones. LOL

We want sex to be "man" or even "man man" (flat tone sounds like "Mon" as in Monday) meaning fun, entertaining, and interesting, and feeling that it is full-on, perhaps the simplest way to say like a GFE in Thai. A Thai girl might use this "man" to indicate a deep involvement in the Ghost story Movie or a song or a game, or whatever.

The big problem is that saying we are sterilized, won't really reassure girls. They will assume the guy is bullshitting. Only useful info for a wife really.

Mr Enternational

10-23-17, 21:30

The big problem is that saying we are sterilized, won't really reassure girls. They will assume the guy is bullshitting. Only useful info for a wife really.Easier to just apologize and go buy a morning after pill for 50 baht.

LittleBigMan

10-24-17, 02:12

Jokingly, I just tell them with hand gesture "cut cut no juice " seem to work? Whether they believe is another subject. Personally, I don't care what they tell me, if they take the pill etc. Recently a regular tells me she had her tubes tied a number of years ago. No matter how much the little head wants it I cover up less headaches down the road. I tell them, I butterfly I protect you.

FormulaOneFan

10-24-17, 02:48

Any girl working in the P4 P industry that isn't taking some sort of birth control is plain crazy. The health related aspect is another issue, but any girl that has the "I don't want to get pregnant" scare is crazy. I had a condom break with a thai girl my last trip to Singapore and I reassured her I was 'clean' (showed her a test report from 1 week prior) and that my tubes were cut (her english was good) and she kept on about not wanting a baby. Funny thing was the next morning she jumped on my cock bareback with no hesitation. Probably not my smartest moment, but, fuck it

FL Hawk

10-24-17, 04:48

No need to apologize Hawk. You are there to get laid as much as you can, not to write as much as you can LOL. It's your HOLIDAY, so enjoy it and don't feel pressed to write (long) FRs.

I used to write long FRs as well in the past (on a Dutch forum for the most part, and sometimes on this forum) but I gave up on it when I realized it took so much time that it was ruining my holiday.Thanks, but writing helps me remember and it helps fill in the time. At this instant, I am in Bangkok and it is raining so it gives me something to do. You may see a few more reports come out today!

LilyEscort

10-24-17, 06:00

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Syzygies

10-24-17, 08:13

Easier to just apologize and go buy a morning after pill for 50 baht.Yes I had to do that more than once. There are crazy girls not taking the pill.

Getting pregnant is a significant risk for Thai hookers. I have known quite a number of bargirls that have had a baby but did not plan too.

The best protection for that is a condom plus backup birth control pill daily as well, in case of condom accidents. No one way is totally safe on its own.

A well known MP girl told me she took the pill and still got pregnant however I guess it was probably bareback.

Thai girls can't afford to go bareback and get pregnant if they will not take an abortion for religious reasons. Guys could pull the dick out and cum on girl's body to reduce risk (but only a little).

CIM is a very good idea to reduce pregnancy risk of course.

FL Hawk

10-24-17, 09:38

Pattaya Trip Report, Day 7 Thursday

Went to Soi 6 around 2 PM. Walked by Offshore Bar and Far called me over. I went in, remembering her from a previous session a few days earlier, sort of, but not remember much about how our session had gone. She is a cute spinner, but I did remembering that while cute, her breasts were super flat and not all that appealing. As before, it was difficult to communicate with her. I seem to be experiencing this communications problems more this time than in any of my previous visits. Am I more sensitive to it or are the newer girls coming have not been learning it? I had to break out my Google Translate app and she told me a little about her babies, who turned out to be 15. She had claimed previously to be 27! She showed pictures so I can believe her boys were 15, but for her to be 12 when she had them?? Nah, she must be older than 27! But the conversation was so painfully difficult, and since I had already been there and done her, I finally just paid the bill, gave her a tip for her time, and left. Why spend more money for an average session with the same girl I cant communicate with? There were many other girls there to see.

Stopped back by Foxy and saw Nam again. She is the almost-chubby girl. She tried to get me to BF her but, like with Far, I wasnt feeling it. Like with Far, we had nothing to talk about, and I am also wondering why I would want to BF her again when she was not what I was really looking for? She was a good provider, and maybe later, but not now. I tipped her for her time and moved on. She was disappointed but the tip made it easier.

I searched on and several girls outside Chili Bar called to me and pointed to a lady they claimed I knew. Huh? I went over and the girl was named Lat. Huh? I dont remember any Lat. She had a nice body, but with an older face. True, I do forget peoples names and faces easily, but Lat was a name I dont believe I have ever heard. She said yeah, we have been together several times. Huh? No we havent, maybe just possibly once I could forget, but not two. But I went with her inside and she admitted that it was all made up. Anyway, it was in good fun. Lat was what I will call an aging spinner. He body is still in remarkable shape with the face being the primary indicator of her true age. I did go upstairs with her anyway, due to the body, finding she had very dark skin throughout with slightly drooping small breasts. Her English was decent and she showed some warmth and maturity, which is why I BF her. We used her condom, as I wanted to see if I would still experience the bunching up effect with my own that gives a rough feeling to sex, and they did. They felt a tad bit worse than my thin ones, but it was not a huge difference. She gave a great BBBJ and really tried my best. Her maturity was a welcome change, but insufficient to get me over my problem, and there remains little about her to make me want to see her again. Like most, she was sad I could not come and took it personally to an extent. Sorry. Standard 300/1000 Soi 6 pricing.

I proceeded on and was invited in by Pop. At the time, I forgot this was the teen spinner that I thought I would see again as I had forgotten much of the encounter. Her English was poor and, like Far and Nam, I just wasnt feeling it so right then so, as pretty as she was, I paid the bill, tipped her and left. I am thinking now I might go back to see her again. Her body was awesome.

That ended my Soi 6 mongering for the day. So it was sort of a down day on Soi 6. I only have a few days left in Pattaya, and I usually get a little down when I see my days are numbered as I am usually getting a bit worn down as well. It was burrito night at that Mexican place on Soi 7, and my stomach was growling, so I went there. I went to the hotel after that to figure out how to spend my night.

Deciding I would stay local, I left the hotel at around 8 PM and headed west. At one of the bars along Soi 7 were the girls are standing by the street, several ladies pushed a sort-of cutie on me and I let her take me back to the bar. They said the girl was new there, fresh from Issan. She had a cute face, but she was a tad chubby. And she knew essentially no English. The bartenders and other purveyors tried to push her on me and did some translating, but it wasnt working. The girl, Aei, or something like that, claimed to like me, but she could tell I was not in to her, which I guess disappointed her. I know she viewed me as money, but she was taking the rejection personally. Well, that is the business. I prolonged the pain too long, but finally got up to leave, giving her a small tip and a hug. She wanted me to come back to see her. Sure baby. Nice girl I think, but not what I want to spend my money on.

I walked on down to BR and headed to Soi 8. There were a very few decent girls out. I had walked down about 2/3rds of the way to Second Street when this short unkempt woman came over. I first thought she wanted to sell me something, but she had nothing to sell! She started asking me a bunch of questions. Sheesh, I just want to get away from her and continue my walk to Second Road, where I would turn around and head back. But she wont leave me alone! She is short and well into her 40s and not asking about boom, just where am I from, where am I staying, etc. Well, I really dont want to tell you lady! I try to get away. She grabs hold, finally saying she wants to tell me something. Ok, what? She said I had to come over here and sit down. We are by a hotel and she walks over to a little koi fish tank. She tells me one of them recently died, but to sit down. I repeat, what what do you want to tell me? She starts asking me questions again! I start to walk away. She calls, out No Darling! I have to talk to you! She followed me a ways then stopped, and I continued on my walk. But when I came back down from Second Road, she hits me up again! I speed up to get away, her calling out dont leave me Darling. People were starting to look! Sheesh. I stepped inside some random street bar with a halfway pretty girl sitting by the street and go to her, saying some crazy lady is after me! Haha

Long story short, I ended up taking this lady in the bar back to my hotel for LT. Sorry, I dont remember the bars name. The BF was 400, and her rate was whatever I wanted to pay she said. Her name was Ann, mid-40s probably, but still well proportioned and very reasonably attractive. English was passable. Regardless of looks, Ann turned to be about as close to a GFE as one can get. Well, she was not big into kissing, though neither am I, nor was the any hint of BB being provided or offered, but she spent the night and we spent most of it entwined together. She seemed to really like the sex and the closeness. Morning sex was included and she did not want to leave. I, however, was hoping to meet with that Thai Cupid girl I mentioned a day or two ago Saturday, so I had to get rid of her before 10 AM.

I liked Ann, and we exchanged Line IDs before she left, and she has been sending me stickers and notes saying she misses me already. I will keep her on standby.

FL Hawk

10-24-17, 11:05

Pattaya Trip Report, Day 8 Friday.

The lunch date with the TC girl was postponed to a dinner date. Oh, well. Guess I can venture to Soi 6 in the meantime.

I stopped at Good Fellows when Fonfon, sitting out front, vigorously waved at me. She turned out to not really be what I was looking for, but I gave in. She had a cute, girl next door look to her, late 20's, but was bigger boned and overweight. But in my attempt to branch out from spinners I decided to give her a try. Upstairs, yes, the body was a bit disappointing, but her breasts were nice, being nice handful of reasonably firm flesh. Her English was passable. She gave a solid BBBJ. I find that to have any chance of releasing with a BJ, the girl needs to keep a steady, strong beat, and that she did. But she was also mechanical. Everything was standard and with no emotion or playfulness. She is a solid lay, but uninspired. When I could not come, she returned to a BJ with that same great, steady beat, and I was getting as close as ever to coming, but still nothing. It has now been 2 or 3 without a come, so I am about due. I do seem to be able to come every 3 to 4 days with condoms (1-3 times a day without, go figure), so it should be happening very soon! She was sad I could not come with her and said "now if you walk by and I wave you will keep walking as I was the girl who could not make you come". I assured her that that would not be the reason. She did what she needed to do. Then as I walked out she asked if I was going to find another lady to make me come. Haha.

I proceeded down Soi 6 and went into the Pussy Club when a tall, pretty girl named Noo (pronounced new) called me out and, with a few seconds of indecision, I went on over. She had a small tummy bulge, but the rest was long and lean so I went in with her for a drink. She was probably mid 20's and had a passable understanding of English. She put some moves on me, but it was getting close to 4 PM and my plan was to return to the hotel around that time to get ready for the dinner call with my potential date, so I decided not to BF her this time. My intention was to check her out again, alas, but I never did.

Had a delightful dinner with my new Thai Cupid friend. We met at Central Marina, a good neutral location, and we both recognized each other instantly. I knew she was not a spinner, but more of a classical beauty, but she seemed to be a bit fuller than her pictures would have one believe. Her face remained beautiful and her hair was al l done up professionally. She was very mature and low key, it we had a nice meal. She did not eat a whole lot and when I asked about dessert she said she had gained 20 kg and was trying to lose it. OK that explains her not being so thin. I hope she can do it! She was still very attractive, and is simply smoking in her uniforms she wears to work. She has her own car, a really nice one at that, and she drove me back, dropping me off at Central Festival. She wanted to show me around the city on Saturday, and of course I was happy for that. She was unaware of my age (it was on the profile), but did not seem deterred it.

It was still relatively early, around 10 PM, so I head to WS. Long story stort, I stop in at the Peppermint determined to minimize the leaching of the girls. Except that Fon was there. She usually barfines early, but as I see her in her skimpy stage outfit, I can note some degradation over the 2-1/2 years I have known her. Her breasts, though it was hard to tell as she had a top one, seemed smaller. She may have lost a little weight in the waist from a year ago (when she was starting to get fat), but the was skin not as tight as it used to be. Yes, she has a kid, but she was 20 when I first saw her (and had no idea she was a mommie), and now she is almost 23. Even Fon is not immune to the effects of childbirth, drinking and time.

Anyway, as this is the short version, I did a ST BF of her. I would have done LT had she wanted, but due to her quirky behavior, I am glad she chose ST. It was 3000 for her and 1000 for the bar. She still looked cute in her street close and we took a motorbike to my hotel. Separate showers. With us both clean, she was clearly in no rush to get to sex. That was ok as I enjoyed the talking and, for a while, laying next close to her, but after a while I got the impression she was delaying.

For a quick review of our relationship, our first time was in April 2015 and I thought she was super hot, having me drooling. The fact she just laid there in bed, as a total and complete star fish, didn't bother me. Maybe my impression that she was fresh to the business (and now that I know she was just 20 then, with a baby, maybe she was) and still a bit scared. During sex, I wasn't sure if I was hurting her or not by some of the sounds and made. When I asked if I was hurting she didn't say anything (though at that time her English was very poor so maybe she didn't know what I was asking). But she made me come and I have since held a small part for her in my heart, as stupid as that is. Over my next 4 visits, excluding this one, I saw her two more times. Once, for LT from Peppermint, back at my hotel she claimed she had to leave as her roomy didn't have the one key they shared. There was debate on here at the time if I got scammed or not. There were a number of phone calls and she seemed distressed, so at the time I felt it was legit and I let her go. I now think otherwise. The other time, from Bliss I think, I got LT and she spent the night but no sex. She said she was having her period. Ummmmm, I didn't question her too much about it, and we slept naked close together and I got some nice pictures of her the next morning, but there were no signs of blood leaking out, so she semi-scammed me again. But we exchanged Line IDs and have been communicating and I was hoping things would be different this time. Haha, I am old but I can still be sucked at times, right Pipelayer and Mr. E!

What was different this time was I sort of considered her a friend, I guess as we shared some Line messages, and when she was showing no signs of sexual interest, I told her if she didn't want to do it she didn't have to. However, before you call me an idiot, my plan was to then tell her we could to back to the Peppermint and tell the mamasan so I could get my money back, as this is the third time she has done this too me! But she did not resist me, but other than some light rubbing and touching, she was still a star fish. I did get some kissing in, but when I rubbed her V she made a sound like she was in pain. What the? I asked if it hurt and she said "just a little bit". Huh?? How many Johnsons has this girl had, and is my simply running my finger over her clit causing her pain? I actually got a tad upset and after a few more minutes broke the the condom and entered her. I slid right in with not screams, so again, what the? She still made some sounds that could have been pain or pleasure, and like the last time we had sex, she would not answer my questions about if it hurt. I continued on and, yes, I came inside her. No doggie and very little touching by her, but maybe I came out of emotion. Well, it was four days I guess, so I was due to finally come in a condom, and it was nice. After a moment I pulled out and, magically, she was happy and bubbly. She wanted to see me the next afternoon FL, maybe for free, to go take pictures. What the??

But I think I am now done with her. I think she is a sweet girl and in the non-working hours I spent with her, she was friendly, funny and looked after me. But her new interest in shots and apparent hatred of her job gives me a bad feeling about her. Fon, at the Peppermint now, is one to be avoided. However, if one of you checks her out, please let me know if she was the same with you. At least at one time she seemed to have repeat clients, so maybe they are / were all suckers too, or she simply is grossed out to be with me or old dudes. No idea. And no, I did not take pictures, as I was planning to be with the TC girl both afternoons.

FL Hawk

10-25-17, 03:54

Pattaya Trip Report, Day 9 Saturday.

I had another delightful couple of hours with the TC girl in the afternoon. She picked me up and drove up to where the Pattaya sign is and then we down to Jomtien. She wanted a massage and we stop at a place and each got a foot massage there. She paid for them, though I insisted on paying for the tip. She wanted to show me some other things, but she got a call from a family member she had to go pick up (or was the bored and wanted to dump me), and that was it for the day. She did send me a picture of the family member later, so I guess it was not an excuse to dump me.

Anyway, turning lemons into lemonade, the early end to our date left me with plenty of time to visit Soi 6. I first saw Joy at Sky Bar. She was a fairly cute spinner with dark skin giving her an exotic look I suppose. Her English was poor but I decided to BF her. Upstairs for she shower, I began to regret the decision. She had good figure but when naked, her breasts were droopy and all the skin around her waist was starting to droop. Sigh. She was 22 too young for this to be happening! Unless she lied about her age, but her face looked pretty young. I don't know. But she was somewhat energetic in bed. During BBBJ she did a lot of ball rubbing, which is something I don't necessarily enjoy and is not something that many of the girls do. Plus, she was a bit fast with her approach. We did all the usual positions and when I said she could stop she did, then we rested together for a few minutes before the shower. As with most all the other Soi 6 bars, she was 1000 and the BF was 300 (or 350). Not really a bad performance, but I was hopping for a 22 year old body in a 22 year old woman.

I left and was grabbed by a girl at Kiss Cool. She was bubbly but too thick around the waist and legs for me. I declined. .

Ann from Soi 8 has been texting and wants to meet again. I liked Ann, and might have her over for my last night on Sunday. She was nice to sleep with.

At some point I walked past Fonfon, the girl with the vigorous, friendly wave. She waved but I passed her by. She will think it was because she didn't make me come. No, it is because I am looking for other girls to be with on my last day.

I walked by Jiab but was not ready for her. This girl could be in porno films. She makes you think she actually loves her jobs and loves screwing you. (Actually, I think she loves it with a few guys, maybe me included, but hates it with most.) Maybe we have a connection or we have been together enough she is comfortable with me and wants to keep the money coming in, IDK. I do think that being a regular, especially with the more mature ladies, helps you to get better and more consistent service (but not always! They get comfortable with you and know what you want and what works, and they want you to keep coming back. They know Soi 6 is a virtual smorgasbord of women and sex for men and that you will obviously cheat on them, but they want to grab a piece of pie as often as they can. Be nice to them and tip them nicely, and these gems will give some great times. Jeib is not the best looking by any means, but she is good looking and super passionate with her kissing, sucking and screwing. YMMV, and I would love to hear from others regarding her performance. I do think some men will get far better service from a particular lady than others do, as chemistry does play a role.

Anyway, she was my first girl of the trip, and I told her I she would be my last (at least of the Soi 6 girls), but I would not be with her today. I left Soi 6, had a bit to eat I guess, then went back to the hotel to rest / write. That night I met Banana Boy on WS and we hit up quite a few bars. I think we agree Sensations was amongst the best. Then, Peppermint, Illusions and to a lesser extent Sky Fall had a good selection earlier in the evening. I remember Yes bar as being practically empty. I know we went into a number of other bars too, but I have no specific remembrances about any of them. Then around midnight it started pouring. We holed up in the Frog Bar area, splitting up to see different bars / ladies. I was playing a game with two uglies and one ok looking woman, and losing too much and getting bled to death. The girl there I actually was attracted too went to play the game with a different dude, so after buying too many shots and all me getting when I one was kiss on the cheek, I finally cut my loses and went over the BB. He was having a friendly chat with a cutie and, unlike me, not getting fleeced. The said she had a sore throat, but BB had found another lady friend. The rain had let up so we left and heck if I remember where we ended up, but the streets were flooding and we decided to split up for the night. Rain was just rushing down some of the side streets, making small waterfalls, flooding the low levels. I was going to go home but ended up going back to Sensations, which was on higher ground. There were a couple of hotties still left and I acted to get one of perhaps two left, picking Nana.

We got a motorbike taxi from one of side streets (they may be cheaper than going to the main entrance), and for 120 baht got a ride to my Soi 7 destination. Some spots on Second Road were really flooded. There was a car that had done a 90 and seemed to be broken down. Yeah, get some water sucked into the engine and it will likely destroy the engine instantly. The water was well over the curbs and lots of people were wading through it, with the water well over their ankles. I was praying this motorbike driver knew what he was doing. My sandals got soaked and will take days to dry, but he got us there. BB, how does he do it, used the opportunity to meet yet another cute girl while trodding through the flood. Haha.

At the hotel, Nana showered alone but came out revealing a near perfect figure which was the reason I choose her. What I hadn't notice was that she sported a nice the or DD-sized set of bolt-on's. I didn't mind, they felt ok, but after too many Soi 6 spinners turning out to have droopy breasts and bodies when naked, Nana was tight and firm. And for her 3000 fee, plus 1000 BF, she had better be! She was friendly and the session was good, but she could not stay wet. It took lots of lube. She was tight and said I was too big. Yeah, sure. No come on my part, but she tried to get me there and she got close both via BBBJ and intercourse. She asked was there any way I could come, and what did she need to do. I was touched by her concerned, but my factual statement only bareback would get me there was met with a statement that would not be possible. I never asked for it, just stated what is what it would take. She tried oral again and some manual, and we even tried intercourse again, but it was not going to happen. She tried and was semi-sad, but there were no tears about it and after the shower she quickly left. So, she was a decent provider, but there was not an oversupply of affection by any means, and after an hour had expired she was ready to depart. Recommended for a one time experience by a very beautiful lady.

Thus, the end of day 9.

FL Hawk

10-25-17, 06:31

Pattaya Trip Report, Day 10 Sunday, Final Day.

My final mongering day in Pattaya. I leave Monday morning, tomorrow, for three days in Bangkok, to meet another TC girl, before meeting up with my virgin Thai GF on Thursday.

I had a difficult time sleeping Saturday night. Too much club soda (or simply soDAAAA as the Thai girls say) and Coke Zero from WS last night. I woke up around 9 AM for good to went down for breakfast then I try to get some of my reports reviewed and updated. Was supposed to go out with my new local TC friend but she was not feeling well and had to cancel the day plans. I wonder if she is coming to her senses and having second thoughts and starting to break it off? Her, in her late 20's, me early 60's? Naw. I am not too old! Groan. Still, I am too messed up to nip this relationship up myself just yet. Surely she will realize the problems and break it off soon. It won't hurt me too much, but her breaking up will save her a lot of hurt if she really is developing feelings.

But with my afternoon plans canceled, where else for me to go but to Soi 6. I do seem to have a non-deliberate habit of make repeat visits on my last day, and that is what happens today, though this time I guess it is deliberate.

I said a few days ago that I wanted to re-review Pop from Red Point, so she was to be my first repeat of the day. I barely remembered what happened when I wrote the report, but I remembered good things, including her being very young and with a really nice body. As it turns out, I think I gave her too much credit in my first limited report. Now, for sure, Pop does have a killer body, when seen from behind or when in tight clothes. Standing at the bar with her back to me getting my drink, I was drooling. The figure, the legs, the proportions of everything is just stunning. From the front, her face, at least without a good makeup job, is a bit plain I suppose, but ok. The problem is when the clothes come off. Clothed or from behind, as I said, she is awesome and drool-making. Naked and from the front, you see flaws. The breasts are sagging a bit. Not a whole lot, but it detracts. And in the right light you can see the stretch marks and some skin wrinkles around the tunny. And there are some other minor skin flaws. Not really bad, but considering the the stunning body otherwise, these flaws stand out.

Performance is largely mechanical this time I felt, but maybe I am overstating it. Her attitude, while ok, is like a flaw given the perfection of her basic body. I mean, you expect more from beauty than from ugly, though the reverse if often more true. She does give a great BBBJ and most men could probably get off from it. One thing of note during our time, however, is after a period of intercourse, we switched to a scissors position, and she began to rub herself for a while. She was making some legit-sounding moaning from it, but who knows? She was getting dry and we even broke a condom from it, so I broke out the lube I carried around (after me grabbing a quick shower). Overall, she gave a decent performance and a younger dude who can pound and get off would likely really like her. She is friendly and accommodating, but there is little emotion there. I can't understand why this teenager is not excited to me with an old guy. Haha She is worth seeing once however. She was a joy to doggie, I have to admit.

After that I met up with Banana Boy at Ruby Bar. We then walked up and down the street. I saw a girl at Candy Bar named Meow who was cute. BB wondered if she was a LB. I don't think so. Her voice was girlish, but we continued walking. He then decided to depart. I thought of going to Meow, but it was well into the afternoon and there was another girl, Jieb, who I had promised would be my last Soi 6 girl. Since I thought I might have a dinner date with the young TC girl, I did not want to risk running out of time, so I bypassed Meow (to my later regret as the dinner date got cancelled), and instead I went to see Jieb at Smoke and Mirrors, where I knew I would have a great time, come or not.

I found her I and think she dressed up for me! Haha. She was looking fine. She is older than I would prefer, but age comes with experience and skills, and she had plenty of skills. I have reviewed her plenty this trip and my previous trip, so no need to repeat much. It was a near GFE again and made a suitable finale for my Soi 6 adventures.

Back at my hotel I learned of my TC date's continued headache was related to a continued family heath emergency she had been informed off that morning. She wants to go home to see her but cannot due to her job. She is very worried and while I think she regretted not seeing me, she was too distraught to go out and have fun. I tried to console as best as I could.

With hopes for a goodbye dinner gone, I went back to the Soi 7 Mexican place for a burrito, but I ordered a different one that last time (they have 3 or 4 different styles). It was to have beans, rice and beef, topped with salsa and enchilada sauce. What was placed in front of me was topped with judicious amounts of sour cream. I don't like sour cream. I said "I didn't know this came with sour cream. I don't like sour cream. " The server basically said that if I didn't want it I should have told the waiter, "No sour cream. " I pulled out the menu and asked where did it say there would be sour cream? It didn't. She walked off and I guess told her boss, who came out. By that time I had scraped the cream and salsa off to the side, not really happy. I told the boss lady the menu did not mention sour cream or I would have excluded it. I thought she said that she would redo it with only enchilada sauce on top. I said that would be great. Well, she brought me a side of enchilada sauce to pour over my now naked burrito! I was not please they would not give me what the menu said I was going to get, but oh well. It wasn't worth arguing about, and though I had thought of either simply reordering to get what I wanted or even just paying and walking out with it uneaten probably a huge insult to them that might get me permanently banned I just let be. I poured on the sauce to cover the nakedness and ate. I chose that particular burrito specifically for the now drenched-in-sour-cream salsa. Sigh. My last dinner in Pattaya.

Anyways, that ends the Pattaya phase of the trip.

I will say that the TC girl video chatted with me Sunday morning and she was in tears. She just wanted to say goodbye, which I found touching. And I wonder what I am doing, playing with such a young girl. I am not trying to play on her emotions over this, but I will try to be there with a funny thought. Heck, on Tuesday, she sent me a funny SnapChat photo of her. Nice to know she is doing well. Will we still be friends next April when I hope to return? Stay tuned.

I took a Bell bus to BKK, then got a taxi to my hotel near Terminal 21. I was to meet with another TC woman here but, as of Wednesday noon, nothing. She questioned me if I really wanted to see her, then she was to come find me for dinner Tuesday but it was raining at her place and she didn't bother to let me know she was cancelling or whatever until, at 7 PM, I texted her to ask. I was at the point I didn't care if we met or not. I have not done any mongering here, so I could have stayed 3 more days in Pattaya and maybe seen the TC Girl down here another time or two. Oh well.

I have decided to leave this hotel, The Key near Terminal 21 off Sukumvet, tonight and move to a place near BKK. I am concerned about all the traffic tomorrow due to the King's funeral. They say I can get up early and be ok, but I don't fancy sitting around BKK for 5 hours before I can meet my GF, then sit around another 2 hours for the flight to Phuket. There are a number of cheapie hotels close to the airport with shuttle service, so by staying there tonight I won't have to worry, and I can sleep late. I am also a little disappointed with my current hotel room. My room is humid and I woke up coughing. Papers in here are damp. It is not that the AC doesn't work, as it can get cool, but that the moisture isn't being removed from the air.

I do plan to post a summary of this Pattaya trip at a later date. It probably won't happen until after I get back home.

Axiata

10-25-17, 11:18

What a pleasure to read your reports. Funny and full of intel. I am there for 6 days this Saturday and hope that you have left some girls for me to try. Sounds like Soi 6 and WS will be the hunting grounds although I have had good pickings at LK Metro in the past so will try again.

Will post as I go but not sure I can keep up the pace thAt you did FL Hawk! Legend.

Happy Hunting.

Banana Boi

10-25-17, 12:48

I have had good pickings at LK Metro in the past so will try again.Can't recall when you were last in Pattaya but unfortunately LK Metro has been slim pickings for the past month or more. It's why you haven't been seeing me write much about LK Metro lately. Walked through last night around 9:30 pm and popped into 4 of the more popular bars. Nothing.

Banana Boi

10-25-17, 13:11

It was great meeting you, FL.

That night I met Banana Boy on WS and we hit up quite a few bars. I think we agree Sensations was amongst the best. If I counted correctly I think we hit 9 gogo bars before 1 am. Talent was not good that evening.

We holed up in the Frog Bar area, splitting up to see different bars / ladies. I was playing a game with two uglies and one ok looking woman, and losing too much and getting bled to death. The girl there I actually was attracted too went to play the game with a different dude, so after buying too many shots and all me getting when I one was kiss on the cheek, I finally cut my loses and went over the BB. He was having a friendly chat with a cutie and, unlike me, not getting fleeced. The said she had a sore throat, but BB had found another lady friend. I didn't realize for some time that you were not even with the girl you wanted to be with. She got pissed at us. My young petite girl is a little gem. Unfortunately, I do not like the beer bar setup like Simon Complex where girls sit on one side of the bar and we sit on the other side. I NEED CONTACT! Anyone know what the current rate is for Simon Complex girls?

My sandals got soaked and will take days to dry, but he got us there. BB, how does he do it, used the opportunity to meet yet another cute girl while trodding through the flood. Haha.If I have to walk through sewer water above my knees, I may as well do it alongside a cute young girl. Oddly she's the one who started taking photos and videos of me first. I guess I looked funny walking through the water. I need to visit her. Another gem.

Ed Setra

10-25-17, 13:56

Pattaya Trip Report, Day 10 Sunday, Final Day.
Great to read your trip reports over the past few days.

Reminded me of several things along the way and how I felt exploring the city. We're similar age group, interests and outlook it appears.

Not least the internal thoughts and concerns about your activities, both sexual and non-sexual, and about life in general and your observations about the people and the culture.

Well done, I look forward to the summary. I'm looking forward even more now to my next short trip at the end of November.

Enjoy Phuket.

Blanquiceleste

10-25-17, 17:08

Pattaya Trip Report, Day 10 Sunday, Final Day.Amazingly well written reports. I wish more people would take as much effort to produce some quality stuff. Hell, even half the effort would give people something of value, instead of mindless bickering over prices, birth control and currency exchange.

Kudos to you FL. Thanks for the wonderful prose.

I didn't realize for some time that you were not even with the girl you wanted to be with. She got pissed at us. My young petite girl is a little gem. Unfortunately, I do not like the beer bar setup like Simon Complex where girls sit on one side of the bar and we sit on the other side. I NEED CONTACT! Anyone know what the current rate is for Simon Complex girls?Simon Complex can get easily out of hand if you are not vigilant. I agree with BB that the Great Divide is a bit of a turn off, but even when they are on the other side, you can fool around a bit and if you feel comfortable ask for barfine. I think BF ranges from 600 to 1000. Some are even lower. Girls can ask anywhere between 2000 to 3000 for LT. At least that has been my experience till the recent past (August).

Axiata

10-25-17, 22:43

Can't recall when you were last in Pattaya but unfortunately LK Metro has been slim pickings for the past month or more. It's why you haven't been seeing me write much about LK Metro lately. Walked through last night around 9:30 pm and popped into 4 of the more popular bars. Nothing.Hi BB, I think I was there mid this year. Time flys so I may need to check my last report. So perhaps over 3 to 4 months things have gone downhill. I think gems can be found but the mining gets harder. It is all part of the hunt and fun though. I have learnt over the years to go with the flow. Stunners who are also great providers are the holy grail. The rest of the girls all keep us from going nuts trying to find it. So while pickings may be slim I could not think of a better place to spend a week than in Pattaya.

Happy Huntng.

LaoMan

10-26-17, 01:20

I agree about Hawke's reports. How refreshing to read something like this rather than the self indulgent nonsense which comes from one regular poster. A man who thinks he knows everything, but in reality knows nothing.

GogoGuyz

10-26-17, 01:37

Hey,

I have found LK Metro good in the past. Touch has opened a new bar and Paradise is very good. Check you PM from me.

Hi BB, I think I was there mid this year. Time flys so I may need to check my last report. So perhaps over 3 to 4 months things have gone downhill. I think gems can be found but the mining gets harder. It is all part of the hunt and fun though. I have learnt over the years to go with the flow. Stunners who are also great providers are the holy grail. The rest of the girls all keep us from going nuts trying to find it. So while pickings may be slim I could not think of a better place to spend a week than in Pattaya.

Happy Huntng.

Sock111

10-26-17, 06:44

This is a trip report for my time in Pattaya late Sept. It is not my first time there so I visited my favorite places.

Soi 6 is still a lot of fun. There were a lot of new faces and in terms of quality, it was down from last year. That is not to say you can't find some beauties. Prices were the same, I was still quoted 300 for the room and 1000 baht for the girl. This included a BBBJ. Nothing beats Soi 6 for an early afternoon tension release.

Airport Agogo. This is one of my favorite places because I have had a lot of luck here in the past. 3 times in 3 years I have pulled amazing girls out of here that provided great GFE. Amazingly it also coincided with my last day in Pattaya so the girls I had a great time with, it was only for 1 night. Unfortunately this time none of the girls that I previously had were still working. One of the waitresses remembered me as well as the girls I took out and confirmed the girls were out of the scene, she also gave me some details as to what happened to them.

Peppermint Agogo. This is also another of my favorite places. The mamasan knows me by sight. She even remembers the girls I've taken over the years. This surprised me as I only visit once a year. I either have an unforgettable face or the mamasan has a photographic memory. She even went as far as to pull up the girls I had previously bar fined on facebook to show me she remembered who I took. She got all 3 right from last year. Again none of those girls were still working. One of the problems with only visiting once a year. I started my search for a new girl and found a very cute petite girl smiling at me from the smaller stage. As soon as she came over I knew I hit the jackpot. Her english was excellent, and we hit it off really well. I could tell she was attracted to me as much as I was to her. As she was hitting all the right things, she dropped the bomb that she only did short time. This was almost a deal breaker but I never start off a new girl with long time anyways and asking her to go into more detail, she said she just was not comfortable spending the whole night and said she just couldn't sleep if she wasn't in her own bed. I felt she was being honest and at least told me upfront that she only did short time. Taking those things into consideration I decided to go for it. It was still pretty early and I was supposed to meet up with a friend in Insomnia, so I asked her if she was ok if we could do some drinking and dancing in Insomnia then starting our short time after that. She said she loved to dance and was happy to go.

Since the mamasan knew I was a good customer, I only had to pay her bar fine and off we went to meet up with my friend and his girl at Insomnia. My friend already had a table with bottle service. It was clear he was not waiting for me to start the party as he was already drunk. We partied, danced and drank until close to 2:00 am. We had a blast. By the time I got back to my hotel room with her, I had mostly sobered up. We showered separately and got down to business. She did not disappoint. The chemistry was there, BBBJ, and I went in raw, she did say not to cum inside her. After the first session, we chatted in bed for a bit, I got horny, and said one more time, which she just smiled and said ok. It ended up being more than "one more time" Despite being short time she let me get off as many shots as I could muster. And with how hot she was, I mustered a good amount. True to her word, she did not spend the night and left around 4:30 am. I tipped her 500 baht, got her LineID and told her that I'm going to barfine her again and not to go with someone else. These are the types of girls I look for and the experiences that keep me coming back to Pattaya. I'm not old, but not as young as I used to me. I no longer enjoy just getting trophy fucks night after night. Although there are always exceptions depending on how hot the girl is.

On a side note, the most amusing thing happened. It was my friends first time in Pattaya and he decided to barfine a girl from Soi 6. He bar fined her early at 1 pm. I told him to enjoy himself and we would meet up again around 8 pm to hit up walking street. As we were leaving our hotel he said that he had a good time with her in the room and spent some time on the beach too. He mentioned that she kept repeating something like a question but he didn't understand what she meant. Since I didn't speak Thai I told him I couldn't help him there. So I changed the subject and asked him if he was hungry, we could grab a bite to eat before we left for Walking street, he said he wasn't particularly hungry even though he hasn't eaten since he bar fined his girl. Then it clicked. I asked him if he fed his girl since he took her out and he said no. I turned to his girl and asked her if she was hungry making the hand motion of eating and she nodded yes quite excitedly. That must have been what she kept asking my friend. I poked fun at him telling him he was starving this poor girl and not feeding her for almost 7 hours straight. Needless to say we immediately hit up a restaurant and let her order whatever she wanted. She was indeed hungry and she finished her plate. I found it quite amusing but understandable as he has never taking a girl out that long before.