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Sperto
09-15-09, 06:24
I viewed the link above and I discovered that the cost for one semester (90 hours) of Level 1, 2 or 3 is 2910 Reais (or approximately $1600 US Dollars using an exchange rate of 1.82). This is about $18 US Dollars an hour (1600/90). Is this a fair price?
I find it very expensive. When I studied at PUC they had two kinds of programs. One program was for paying foreign students and the other was as like a kind of exchange-student. I went for the latter, even though there were no real exchange.

I took Portuguese and two more courses in one semester and only paid a small fee each month. I guess things have changed.

The teaching was excellent. Still I find US$ 18/hour expensive. That's R$ 32/hour. R$ 0,5/minute... half the BA85-price.

Misinformation
09-15-09, 09:41
Lots of talk on these boards about Brazilian girls, etc... She is a 5, she is a 10.

Ivete Sangalo is 10. Google her. (seriously. I am not into thiis celeb-bullshit but you will like what you see - I promise).

She is 10.

You go to Help, Meia pataca, etc.. big money will buy a 9. But Michael Jordan with $10,000 will not get a girl like her in Help or anywhere in Rio.

Sorry if I bug anyone. That is 10 in Brazil, OK?

Guys when you go to Brazil, just play it cool.

The best thing about Rio is honeymoon sex in Buzious or Parati

Sperto
09-15-09, 11:25
Ivete Sangalo is 10. Google her. (seriously. I am not into thiis celeb-bullshit but you will like what you see - I promise).
She is 10.
37 year-old MILF.

A158
09-15-09, 11:42
an insecure prick who got beat up alot as a kid, never got a girl yourself, and just sits around all day hiding behind his computer and making negative comments about other people as you download snuff videos, eat Funyons and big gulp soda while you jerk off to the stories that pimp ass dudes relay for your entertainment pleasure. I won't tell you to eat a dick cuz, well, I know you like to keep certain things private!

Rodeo

Wow....That is one hell of a scary image you painted Bro.:-) When are you going to RIO again? I have a free ticket waiting .....

Cheers

A158

Jesuscola
09-15-09, 12:40
For anyone who reads Portuguese well and really wants to know what goes on behind the scenes at a termas, I can recommend the book "O Primeiro Sexo," by Carolina Boechat, a former receptionist at L'uomo. She gets some things wrong--she doesn't try to understand the men--but she gets a lot right. She gets close. It's actually a lot darker and more cynical on the girls' side of things than she understands. She spends more time putting them down for lack of education than she does trying to understand their experience and perspective. So she comes off as more than a little stuck on herself.

But if you want the inside information, that book will get you a taste. Make sure you want it, though. You might not be pleased by what you read. (You will learn definitively, for example, which men the girls prefer. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with skin color, race, nationality, eye color, religion, politics, age, or how well you hit it. I'll leave it at that.)

Exec Talent
09-15-09, 14:12
For anyone who reads Portuguese well and really wants to know what goes on behind the scenes at a termas, I can recommend the book "O Primeiro Sexo," by Carolina Boechat, a former receptionist at L'uomo. She gets some things wrong--she doesn't try to understand the men--but she gets a lot right. She gets close. It's actually a lot darker and more cynical on the girls' side of things than she understands. She spends more time putting them down for lack of education than she does trying to understand their experience and perspective. So she comes off as more than a little stuck on herself.

But if you want the inside information, that book will get you a taste. Make sure you want it, though. You might not be pleased by what you read. (You will learn definitively, for example, which men the girls prefer. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with skin color, race, nationality, eye color, religion, politics, age, or how well you hit it. I'll leave it at that.)
Doing a little research, I fond this article which also might be of interest.
http://www.postoseis.com.br/default.asp?coluna=Reportagem+especial

Poucolouco
09-15-09, 15:59
Lots of talk on these boards about Brazilian girls, etc... She is a 5, she is a 10. Ivete Sangalo is 10. Google her. (seriously. I am not into thiis celeb-bullshit but you will like what you see - I promise). She is 10.. That is 10 in Brazil, OK?

A ten in Brasil is a six with money. :D

Mr Enternational
09-15-09, 16:20
For anyone who reads Portuguese well and really wants to know what goes on behind the scenes at a termas, I can recommend the book "O Primeiro Sexo," by Carolina Boechat (You will learn definitively, for example, which men the girls prefer. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with skin color, race, nationality, eye color, religion, politics, age, or how well you hit it. I'll leave it at that.)
The only thing you left out is R$s! So I take it that's the type they prefer.

Jesuscola
09-15-09, 16:23
The only thing you left out is R$s! So I take it that's the type they prefer.

Since you asked, it's the premature ejaculators ;o)

Mr Enternational
09-15-09, 17:07
Since you asked, it's the premature ejaculators ;o)
I knew I was good for something (or somebody)!

Meteko
09-15-09, 17:12
37 year-old MILF.

Damn !!
Does that make Daniela Mercury a 44 year old Grand-Milf ??

M

Dwilso39
09-15-09, 18:23
For anyone who reads Portuguese well and really wants to know what goes on behind the scenes at a termas, I can recommend the book "O Primeiro Sexo," by Carolina Boechat, a former receptionist at L'uomo. She gets some things wrong--she doesn't try to understand the men--but she gets a lot right. She gets close. It's actually a lot darker and more cynical on the girls' side of things than she understands. She spends more time putting them down for lack of education than she does trying to understand their experience and perspective. So she comes off as more than a little stuck on herself.

But if you want the inside information, that book will get you a taste. Make sure you want it, though. You might not be pleased by what you read. (You will learn definitively, for example, which men the girls prefer. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with skin color, race, nationality, eye color, religion, politics, age, or how well you hit it. I'll leave it at that.)

For those of us that do not read protuguese well, can you give us a breif book report; or give us five "new" facts about termas that we don't know?

Thanks

Beach Star
09-15-09, 19:09
For those of us that do not read protuguese well, can you give us a breif book report; or give us five "new" facts about termas that we don't know?

Thanks

Jesuscola is your man for this. According to him (see previous posts) he is a paid pimp for all the termas in Rio. He should be able to tell you without reference to a book.

Rodeio, I didn`t like your style or attitude either, but you do not deserve cricism from people like this.

Jesuscola
09-15-09, 19:19
Jesuscola is your man for this. According to him (see previous posts) he is a paid pimp for all the termas in Rio. He should be able to tell you without reference to a book.

Rodeio, I didn`t like your style or attitude either, but you do not deserve cricism from people like this.

Hahahahahah!!! That's hilarious. You must be in politics. ;o)

Jesuscola
09-15-09, 19:46
For those of us that do not read protuguese well, can you give us a breif book report; or give us five "new" facts about termas that we don't know?

ThanksWell, I'm about halfway through it so far. The funniest story yet involves a girl yelling at a client "Shit out my press-on nail! I want it back! " According to the book, about 85% of guys want something or other stuck up their asses. The numbers I get from the girls is more like 50% Americans, 80% Brazilians, and %100 percent Italians, but who am I to quibble.

She also really gives it to the termas owners. I don't think she's got a single good thing to say about them. She barely changed the names--just a letter or two, so it's pretty easy to figure out who's who.

As for the other stuff, I learned a long time ago that most guys really don't want to hear the truth. They pay for the fantasy--which the girls work hard to maintain. And you can rarely say, "This is 100%, in all cases, true." There are always exceptions--but they're strongly in the minority. I don't really want to get deep into discussing those parts of the book. But it's out there if you've the will to get to it. Maybe another member will contribute.

Thanks

Bimbo Boy
09-15-09, 22:16
... the book "O Primeiro Sexo," by Carolina Boechat, a former receptionist at L'uomo. ... (You will learn definitively, for example, which men the girls prefer. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with skin color, race, nationality, eye color, religion, politics, age, or how well you hit it. I'll leave it at that.) Where can one buy this book? It is not available on Amazon.
And which kind of men do the girls prefer? That would be nice to know ...
Regards.
B.B.

Jesuscola
09-15-09, 22:49
Where can one buy this book? It is not available on Amazon.
And which kind of men do the girls prefer? That would be nice to know ...
Regards.
B.B.

I picked it up at a bookstore in Rio. It just came out a few weeks ago.

As to the other question, I revealed the book's answer to that further down. The truth, as I understand it, is a little more complicated. If she's actually physically attracted to the guy, then, yes, she may enjoy the sex. OTOH, I know a girl who worked in a termas for six years. She tells me she only ever had a real orgasm twice--both times with guys she was physically disgusted by. Go figure. As to what really physically attracts a girl, well, as near as I can tell, they're all different. A few girls have a thing for a certain look, other girls can't stand that type of guy.

You can only make a rule for about 99% of cases. The other 1% is the tricky part.

This bookstore might have it. Don't know if they'll deliver to the US or not.

http://www.livrariasaraiva.com.br/

EDIT: Yes, it appears they will deliver to North America.

Best to you.

Eros74
09-16-09, 14:20
I picked it up at a bookstore in Rio.....

Surely not in a carstore ;) but please tell us where you bought it, instead of where it should be found, as I called ALL the library listed here right now and no one have it.

Obrigado.

http://copacabana.com/livraria.shtml

Exec Talent
09-16-09, 15:05
There is an article and accompanying author interview (video) to be found here.

http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2009/8/livro_desnuda_o_templo_do_sexo_31025.html

Sperto
09-16-09, 17:50
The author says in the interview, in ET's link, that the book is sold in Livraria Bolivar, Rua Bolivar. Close to cinema Roxy.

Jesuscola
09-16-09, 18:16
The author says in the interview in ET's link that the book is sold in Livraria Bolivar, Rua Bolivar. Close to cinema Roxy.

That's where I got mine.

Devilspinkick
09-17-09, 13:36
The garden in question being the Jardim Botanico area of RJ, as opposed to your Judeo-Christian garden of eden. It had been a couple of years since I had visited Solarium. One reason is that it´s rather out of the way. Another reason being that I haven´t been overly impresed with the talent there the past few years. I remember the days when a lady by the name of Priscilla would work at the desk. I always thought she was a rather attractive lady who practically oozed sex. Back in those days I had many good nights spent at the Solarium. Anyway, I arrive there around 6PM and greet the new dames at the front desk. They inform me that Priscilla hasn´t worked there for quite a while, é uma pena, but I she had always said that she was studying to get into a different line of work.

I got changed and said hi to some of the regular staff and yakked a bit with some of the local clients. Get showered, opt not to use the sauna this night, and head into the boite. Maybe I´m just jaded from all my travels, but though there were plenty of ladies to choose from only one or two really caught my eye. Half of them being to "thick" for my tastes. I took in the scene for maybe 20 minutes when all of a sudden Lila strolls up the stairs. This lovely lady has been bouncing back and forth from Monte Carlo to Solarium for the past few years. I saw her at MC fairly recently, but obviously she´s back at the Jardim. As soon as she saw me she plopped on my lap and gave me some kises. I prefer to go with gals on my first day of a trip, but I couldn´t turn down her advances this time. She´s a MILF-type with slightly reddish hair and a well maintained body.

After a bit of drinking and catching up we go to the one a only suite and spent a good hour in the hydromassage (she loves the hydro), on the cama, and even had some fun on the sex chair. Always have a good time with her and I´ve been with her far more often that I go with most ladies. She told me that she plans to work as a tour guide by the start of next year and will retire from the GDP biz. I certainly wish her the best with her goals. Apparantly she´s studying English, but we spent the entire time speaking in Portuguese. We traded contact info - after getting cleaned up we chatted a bit more back out in the boite.

I hung out for a while longer but in the end opted not to take another gal because I simply wasn´t all that hot on any of them. Call me picky. Left around 10PM and the total damage was around R$440. Fair price and a decent way to star my Rio trip. Perhaps tomorrow I will dive into more decadent ventures ..... a saruba perhaps?

"O tempora, O mores"
- DSK

Eros74
09-18-09, 00:27
I got the book in the livraria bolivar, thanks guys.

I will read it and take it as chance to improve my portuguese,but I do not believe I will get some original or new info about termas, as on one side I think Carolina was very smart writing one book that was not written before, but I think she wrote more than one bullshit, as the fact that girls are not allow to take drugs....we know they take it, not every, but many of them.

And even more, I think that a woman that worked at front desk all the time, doesn't know much about girls, surely less than a barman and much less than the girls themselfs.

Btw she was supposed to work at luomo,but there nobody know her and her book.

However once I will read it, I will report my POV.

Jesuscola
09-18-09, 09:28
I got the book in the livraria bolivar, thanks guys.

I will read it and take it as chance to improve my portuguese,but I do not believe I will get some original or new info about termas, as on one side I think Carolina was very smart writing one book that was not written before, but I think she wrote more than one bullshit, as the fact that girls are not allow to take drugs....we know they take it, not every, but many of them.

And even more, I think that a woman that worked at front desk all the time, doesn't know much about girls, surely less than a barman and much less than the girls themselfs.

Btw she was supposed to work at luomo,but there nobody know her and her book.

However once I will read it, I will report my POV.

Hahahah! And so it begins...

First of all, there's a difference between not being allowed to take drugs and taking them anyway. I know girls who've been fired for getting too drunk, too often. Second, I know someone who spent a lot of time in Luomo and remembers her working there and saying she was writing a book. Third, she may not know as much as the girls themselves, but everything she says is perfectly in line with what I know.

But of course, you won't believe it if you really don't want to.

Abzsafado
09-18-09, 18:31
Citibank

Club 00
My Uni friend wanted to take us to a nightclub so I suggested one with hot young girls. She decided on taking us to Club 00.


Club 00 is GLS on a number of nights during the week, choose your night carefully, I recommend checking the listings in the newspapers before going. Food is excellent.
Can be hard to find if you don't know exactly where it is.

Eros74
09-18-09, 20:05
......Can be hard to find if you don't know exactly where it is.

www.00site.com.br

Avenida Padre Leonel Franca, 240 - Gavea, Planetario - Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Tel: 55 21 25408041

Bravo
09-18-09, 22:07
Club 00 is GLS on a number of nights during the week, choose your night carefully, I recommend checking the listings in the newspapers before going. Food is excellent.
Can be hard to find if you don't know exactly where it is.

What does GSL mean?

Devilspinkick
09-19-09, 00:53
Just to try something different I decided to pay Termas Aeroporto a visit. I´ve never been a fan of this place because IMO it´s always staffed with a bunch of fat chicks. However, I´ve already visited the majority of the better Termas so I figured a trip there for a couple of hours couldn´t hurt (going with low expectations helps). I was greeted at reception and surprised to learn that they no longer require you to pay for the entrance in advance. I got changed and showered and then toured to facilities. Since I come her so rarely I get a little lost - and this place isn´t even very big.

As I figured, the stafff was 95% fat chicks. But this seems to be what the well-to-do Brasilian business guys like .... they of course make up the vast majority of the clients that come here. So for you guys that like your women "thick", ie. "fat" this may well be the place for you. The facilities are quite nice and at least they had a good DJ who was spinning out mixes of forro, pegode, and other MPBs - no rap or funke; thank goodness. The only thin lady there was quite attractive, ironically when I spoke with her she told me that we had been together a couple of years ago when she worked at Solarium. I must say that I don´t remember her at all, but she said that back then she was well defined and muscular. Her arms are puny now so I found that hard to believe. She said that she used steroids back then but had to stop because the stuff was damaging her heart. Good idea. She told that we had good sex together in the past. Scheisse! I can´t even remember her name. We talked for a few minutes and then I decided to head out.

Had a nice chat with the lady at reception, though she seemed to take offense when I told her I only like thin gals - she being being rather "curvy" herself. Maybe I´ll check it out again in another 3 to four years.

- DSK

Eros74
09-19-09, 04:30
I got right now the first 3some of my life, I will be short, as I am going out.....the potencial to have 2 girls at same time is great, but the chance to be ripped off are double too....I thought could be better, I do not regret and will follow full report as usually.
Have fun guys
p.s. I am more horny than 1 hour ago :(

Tiradentes
09-19-09, 04:51
What does GSL mean?

Gay Lesbian Sympathizer

Eros74
09-19-09, 08:43
Writing from bedroom....she is sleeping....after 3some....I could not be more lucky......more to follow ;)

Exec Talent
09-19-09, 16:20
Writing from bedroom....she is sleeping....after 3some....I could not be more lucky......more to follow ;)
Why don't you just move this to Twitter®? :rolleyes:

Eros74
09-19-09, 21:45
From when my friend arrived I really had no free time to post, as we always did something, that I stayed in my flat just for sleep,but today is cloudy here, so let's write something.

We went a couple of times to the all the main termas, so:


Montecarlo:
The first one I visited, what I have to said it is that never judge a terma by sunday night, as the first time on sunday MT disappointed me, cause there were about 14 girls and only 2 nice, but during the week I count often something as 35-40 girls. I guess all the girls who have kids choose sunday as day off.
Actually I took from there just one girl, but totally GFE, included a quite nice prostatic massage ( for the second time in my life....) during a great bbbj, anal included too, the same as dfk and daty.
I am a bit exigent and I like to have at least 20-30 minutes of conversation before to decide to take the girl to cabine, but from the 3 girls I took from the 3 different termas I was satisfied at 110% !!!
I like MT and so far as I remember I did not see there any of the girls I saw in jan-march.
Maybe if I have to find one weak point is that most of girls just sit down and no dance at all, I mean, you have the atmospere of relax, but you do not get much fun to looking to the girls.



Luomo
Luomo surprised me in a very good way, as it was nothing special for me in march, mainly cause the girls were very "tired",passive, how can I explain ? I meant they just sit down, some almost falling asleep.
Not during this week, when I enjoyed all the time I went there, now luomo has really a feeling of a party, the girls are happy, they smile and I saw some new girls and nice ones, I did not see in jan-march.
I took a nice, very nice blond, white skin that gave me the feeling to be too nice to be passionate in bed, but during my conversation with her, the way she french kissed me, made me feel, maybe I was wrong and, surely I was, as again it was a GFE full service and I only regret I cannot bang her all night long instead of the 1 hour I took her. ( yes, 40 minutes was too little time for such a nice girl).
What looks strange to me, the kinds of girls you see at luomo, you never see walking in the streets, so it seems that a girl 9' (from 1 to 10) is a real not common stuff in Rio. I do not regret too much, as I do not need 100 girls top notch, but maybe this 9' girls are sometimes a bit selfish cause they feel they are not common stuff.
Not that mine girl was cold, the opposite, but maybe I was just lucky or maybe it is a good idea to have a long conversation with her before to decide and to ask about what she likes or not likes in sex and yes....I never took a girl to cabine that does not passionate french kiss me.
So overall luomo not big place, not big selection, but it surely worth it, great atmospere and million times better than 6 months ago.



Cheap termas:
I always listen and read here about the many cheap terma in centro but I was too lazy to check the forum and to to find them, also I was afraid there I could get a fuck with cheap price but not with a great quality girl and...indeed I was right.
I asked my friend to bring me there, so:


BA65,if correct, I mean the one on 5 or 6 floors with a very little stair.....I never saw a such dirty place with such a ugly girls, oh yes, cheap, something as 23 reais 20 minutes of fuck, but I surely can get a much deeper and nicer orgasm with my hand instead to get a girl there with the big difference that after an handjob I do not feel sad as surely I did if I banged someobdy there.....
The stair is amazing little and I am not a big guy, it worth to see where local go to have sex, but nobody will convince me to have sex there, cause if the bar,table,floor looks so old and dirty, I think on the bedroom you can get and catch all the diseases you want.....


Bigger stair, same floors:
the second one, is similar to the first one, many floor connected with a circle stair, it looks a bit better, they have a quite nice girl, thin, petite, cute, but the place is dirty as the first one, so I was only waiting to move to another place once we finished our beers.


504 or 502 (something like that)
After we took an acai, we saw a nice girl walking "too" fast in the street, so we thought, lets just follow her for a while, she went inside this a bit better level of terma, I do not remember exactly the number, the experts here surely can understand about which terma I am talking about.
It looks better, but the girl that went inside talked for about 10 minutes with a barman and then she left and the other girls were pretty garbage, so we again drunk our beers and we went out.


However what can I say is that even an afternoon like this, is a really great day if you are, as I was, together a good friend, cause you joke, share experiences, have fun, so at the end not much matter if sex or not, friendship over every kind of girls you can have. Have a great buddy and not much matter where you are.


Solarium:
It disapppointed me, but I was there on sunday, so I really need to go there again to judge correctly.........it seems on sunday is slow everywhere.


4X4
Here we are :)
The biggest terma with cheaper price than the ones in copa.
It was the first time I saw 4x4 not much packed, so it was a very nice surprise as there you cannot enjoy all the time, cause too many persons in the same place.
It was monday, I soon found about 5 girls I could be very happy to bang, so I started to speak with one.....that was so sweet, we started to dance,to kiss, I bought her a drink....she did anal.....that's all what I need LOL.
Seriously, I remember her from march, but in that time she was very shy, this time, very friendly and I did not have to watch her long time, as I knew she has an amazing body.
What was very nice is her attitude, if she born in another country, and if maybe a bit taller, she could easily be a model and earn tons of money, here is a pro so friendly as only a 100 kg woman usually is.....she was the kind of woman that makes you think.....hey,maybe to get married is not a very bad idea, at least to have a girlfriend like this, as her only bad point-mistake is she lives on the other side of the world where I live, but from the quality of her body till her attitude, from her fire in sex till....yes, till the great smell and taste of her wet pussy, she was just......perfect !!!!
Am I in love with her ? No, but one more time I hate the sex prison where I live....yes, the same old story for every of us.....somebody could say I am writing nothing new here, it is true, but maybe there are some mongers at home that never been to terma in Rio, so I try to make them understand that for experience as I had it surely worth to come here and to worth, at least for me, to stay away from cheap termas, to pay a bit more, to get model type.
Maybe I am really exigent, but I am middle 30 years old, used to go often to Russia, so I like as I am, cause when I will be older, I will remember the top notch girl I had and not how many garbage girls I got. It is just me, I do not judge anybody here, I just share my point of view.
However monday at 4x4 not many customers and at least 5 great girls, yesterday, friday, full of customers and I saw only 2 of the 5 great girls I saw. Honestly, yesterday it seems to me another terma, me and my friends we thought that maybe some nice girls earned enough money during the week that they did not showed up on friday and they started the weekend one day earlier. ( we were there about 2 hours, so we saw all the girls).
Nice to report the first girl I got, when she saw me, she did not came to kiss me and hug me, but she....jumped to me, ok maybe she only had nice time and she is working trying to get me for another 40 minutes, but I really got the feeling she was happy to see me, the same as me for her.


So now I wrote something more than twitter ;) (but nice joke indeed), I hope you enjoyed the report and so far as one photo is better than 1000 words, I add something :)

More to follow asap.

Sperto
09-19-09, 23:25
Bigger stair, same floors:
the second one, is similar to the first one, many floor connected with a circle stair, it looks a bit better, they have a quite nice girl, thin, petite, cute, but the place is dirty as the first one, so I was only waiting to move to another place once we finished our beers.
I imagine that "BA65" would be BA85, but what place is the other one; "Bigger star", "circle stair"?

Jan 156
09-20-09, 00:14
I imagine that "BA65" would be BA85, but what place is the other one; "Bigger star", "circle stair"?
I imagine he means Uruguiana

Eros74
09-20-09, 03:49
Yes I think BA85 if I remember correctly it is the same street of 4x4 so buenos aires rua, right ?
And yes again, the second place has the same circle stair as BA85 has, but a bit wider stair.
Back now from solarium, my friend got nice experience, me the first one bad session in a week here, so I am more than happy and however was my fault, I did not test her enough with long conversation, I was too horny, too in hurry.
I will report this too later.
Have a nice saturday night fever ;) to everybody :)

Sprite13
09-20-09, 08:20
Very nice report Luka!
Was that Cassandra, a curly brunette with an amazing body? I saw her at MC during Carnaval week and she was awesome specially orally and with prostate massaging. It was also my first time and she blew me away with her out of this world oral skills.
Btw, there was also another fabulously orally skilled girl at the time at MC, a tall, brunette with short hair and very sexy, very cool chic to talk to as we spent a good hour just chatting there. Her name is Patricia. She had an incredible technic when it comes to BJ, words cannot describe it other than it makes go gaga. Try her, you'll know what I mean...If you see her, do not miss her, she will blow your mind. And a wonderful kisser too. Very ninfetinha and namoradinha inside the cabin. If you're into a passionate lovemaking session, she'd be a great pick.
Btw, are these 2 still at MC (Cassandra and Patricia)?



Montecarlo:

Actually I took from there just one girl, but totally GFE, included a quite nice prostatic massage ( for the second time in my life....) during a great bbbj, anal included too, the same as dfk and daty.

Jan 156
09-20-09, 08:51
From Sperto's guide, Bubba's or just RTFF-ing you'll get all these (though admittedly harder to find on the ground on your first visit).

All approx 1R a minute, times are approx and facilities (floors open, numbers of girls) vary widely outside of main weekday daytime hours or 1-6pm.

Rua Buenos Aires 85 10am-8pm
This is the legendary narrow spiral staircase. Same street as 4x4 but on the other side (Metro side) of the main road (Rio Branco). Some parts are filthy but otherwise some good pickings and private arrangements possible with some girls. Budget end. What do expect? Sheepskin rugs?

Rua Buenos Aires 113. 9am-9pm
Same street again, but even nearer the Metro. Pink entrance, normal staircase. Girls just stand around in one big poorly lit room when you walk in. Single floor, with a further level to consummate the business once you've picked a girl On the whole, mostly mingers but an occasional doable. Unhygeinic even by donkey droppings standards.

Rua Uruguaiana 24 10am-8pm (open till maybe 3pm Sat)
In the pedestrianised street that runs alongside the metro of the same name but at right angles to Rua Buenos Aires. Entrance hidden behind a newsstand so easily missed. Often has a guy selling overpriced fake watches at the door. Circular staircase but, unlike Buenos Aires 85, wide enough to pass someone without rubbing against their crotch or climbing onto the railing. Several levels, similar to BA85. A bit closer to the Carioca metro station that the Uruguiana one.

Most 'spender' visitors might avoid such places. But a lot like them. Just repeating the info here for anyone wandering thru the labyrinthine forum with aching feet.

Sperto
09-20-09, 09:37
All approx 1R a minute, times are approx and facilities (floors open, numbers of girls) vary widely outside of main weekday daytime hours or 1-6pm...
A very good description.

Of these three I prefer BA85 without doubt.

I also had some very nice girls at Uruguaiana 24, but it's a bit annoying that the cabins are next to the tables where the guys are drinking beer. Very noisy. Makes it a bit difficult to concentrate...

BA113... I entered there many times when heading for BA85. I have never seen any doable girls. The smell is awful.

P.S Speaking about staircases. BA85 is the most narrow. Still it's amazing how people manage to pass each other in the staircase. It takes some training, especially when you try to descend quickly wearing Havaianas and some shopping bags. Imagine a fire in BA85 and everybody running for the stairs...

Dima25
09-20-09, 14:58
Going to Brazil in late November. Anyone have any updates on help. How is the talent there these days? Also how is the season like?

Eros74
09-20-09, 16:15
Sprite13,

honestly I do not remember her name, as I spoke with about 40 girls in 10 days here and hard to remember the name they use inside the terma if often after a while they tell you the real name too :(

Abzsafado
09-20-09, 18:41
www.00site.com.br

Avenida Padre Leonel Franca, 240 - Gavea, Planetario - Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Tel: 55 21 25408041
I had the address was with a Brasileira, carioca, and still struggled. It was half hidden behind the planetario.

JohnnyBraz
09-20-09, 18:56
I had the address was with a Brasileira, carioca, and still struggled. It was half hidden behind the planetario.Most taxi drivers in zone zul will have no problem finding it.

Eros74
09-20-09, 20:22
Do you mean you trust less the address written in the web page of 00 than what your friend told you ? LOL

It is so hidden everybody seems to know it.....and yes, there is only one 00 club in all Rio, so no chance to get to another club with the same name....

Hey sprite13, I just take a look to gpguia, Montecarlo thread, that's what they say about Cassandra that oral is her bad point, so who knows ?

05.5) Ponto Fraco e Ponto Forte segundo a sua ótica;

Fraco : oral e o desempenho.

Forte : O anal. O rosto.

Eros74
09-20-09, 21:12
Right now got girl from ciaplus...i sent her back in 5 seconds....she neither was surprised....more to follow

Sprite13
09-20-09, 21:14
Luka,
That's very strange because I found her oral skills her best asset when I took her to the cabin back during Carnaval week. Before taking her, I spent about a good 30-40 minutes chatting and making out with her. I found her very responsive that time.

However, on another night, when I returned to MC and saw her, she was a bit cold and distant so didn't repeat with her. I guess it's all a matter of her mood and how you get along with her. A classic case of YMMV.

P.S. I love your twitter updates!:D Is there a Rio Mongers Twitter group? How about you create one? I'd be the first to join!:D

Marcop 12
09-20-09, 21:35
Right now got girl from ciaplus. I sent her back in 5 seconds. She neither was surprised. More to followOn subject of ciaplus I set up a call out for an amigo, was told luana would be turning up and price as advertised on promotion on website was $R100 for 2hrs (plus taxi) Bait and switch turned up but dooable, she then said $R100 was for 1hr & said $R130 for 2hrs, basically she scammed the extra $R30 as was getting late on, she was timid poor\no performer adament she was infact luana so no real name to advise here. My amigo was in centro took her to near by LIPS motel $R55 for 4hrs for top suite on a Sat night. Room was adaquete but appears this motel in the past could have been a top motel but its just ageing and run down but handy location, cheapest is $R35 for room.

Apart from these problems tried several agencys for considerable time with no joy then remembered ciaplus, woman answered phone quickly and seemed genuine with her responses to questions asked and she ableit the wrong girl turned up bang on time for the meet, basically quite like their website and some of the girls, so wouldn't write them of yet, well depends what Lukasek got to say on his next twitter post LOL.

Bravo
09-20-09, 22:09
Yeah, the twitters are funny!

Eros74
09-21-09, 02:59
Montecarlo...nothing interesting.....then to Centaurus, closed on sunday, to Solarium...much worst than yesterday, when I got a disaster with MILF,today half disaster...still horny so let's been ripped off....to Marius....terraco atlantico very slow...it's raining....back to apartment to write e mail to my slovak girlfriend :) ....sunday definetely sad sunday

Mangera
09-21-09, 04:05
Montecarlo...nothing interesting.....then to Centaurus, closed on sunday, to Solarium...much worst than yesterday, when I got a disaster with MILF,today half disaster...still horny so let's been ripped off....to Marius....terraco atlantico very slow...it's raining....back to apartment to write e mail to my slovak girlfriend :) ....sunday definetely sad sunday

I felt like I just got out of a washing machine right after reading this report! :)

Eros74
09-21-09, 04:28
I felt like I just got out of a washing machine right after reading this report! :)

....that's how I feel too after living all this and that's maybe cause I am not able to fall asleep now....if I do not sleep in half hour, it will be 1:00 am and I go out again cause....I love to sleep with a girl close to me.....not to mention how my little friend is happy to wake up at morning close to sweet wet strawberry with 4 lips.....damn it....I am in Rio....nobody should sleep alone here LOL ;)

p.s. anybody interested to open a terma working in night time in copa ? LOL

Geofagus
09-22-09, 02:47
Guys I'll be in Rio in 2 weeks and going to explore Lapa in the evening. Anyone have recomendations about where to go? I was thinking of going to Rio Scenarium for dinner, drinks and the live music show. Any suggestions?

Geo

Eros74
09-22-09, 04:00
Amazing girl,amazing body and service too from 4x4....I feel so good...p.s. I have pictures too :)

Azn Safado
09-22-09, 08:53
Guys I'll be in Rio in 2 weeks and going to explore Lapa in the evening. Anyone have recomendations about where to go? I was thinking of going to Rio Scenarium for dinner, drinks and the live music show. Any suggestions?

Geo
I recently wrote a couple of brief reports on Lapa and how to get there by bus from Copa. My tour guide said you can spot a tourist at Rio Scenarium because he/she is eating dinner there. Apparently, locals only eat appetizers there. There's a good restaurant called Mangue Secos diagonally across from Rio Scenarium that is worth a try.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=925803&postcount=2139

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=928027&postcount=2204

Sperto
09-22-09, 09:28
I recently wrote a couple of brief reports on Lapa and how to get there by bus from Copa. My tour guide said you can spot a tourist at Rio Scenarium because he/she is eating dinner there. Apparently, locals only eat appetizers there.
I have to ask just out of curiousity.
The food is great at Rio Scenarium, both the appetizers and the "dinners". Is there a difference if you eat a filé mignon or pasteis? Don't you think that the locals will know that you're a gringo anyway. :)

IMO I appreciate that the local girls notice that I'm not a brazilian. That's one of the triumph cards when looking for non-pro's in Brazil.

What might be embarrassing is that if you give the impression that you are a stranger to brazilian nightlife and don't know how to act with the ladies, but that depends more on other factors than what you eat. ;)

Just my opinion.

SlimHoleDrill
09-22-09, 14:00
Imagine my surprise when I strolled out of the dressing room, took the turns to go to the relax room on the way to the showers and found a new wall. No relax room! It is not clear what is going on because one girl said something about a new room having internet that the girls would somehow use but they told me in reception they were putting in a better relax room. We will see eventually.

They have added an LCD in the boite running various Luomo adds. They will put
on football if you ask. One interesting development is that L is celebrating its 30th anniversary. The 30th of every month, they have a special show. Was there Aug. 30 and it was very funny. Thursdays are advertised as having a lingerie show.

It was pretty quiet, not many guys,cold and raining which is all good IMHO. Girls are bored so they are fresh and enthusiastic when you choose them. Lots of fresh new talent.

BTW, no dinner, but they do have soup every night. Maybe dinner will come back with the new relax room. Maybe competion is improving things. Personally, I would rather see the price lowered but that is not likely. Most likely they would raise it after the renovation.

Anybody have more information?

Viper10
09-22-09, 15:58
I need a fiador urgently in the next 2 days. I am willing to pay a substantial amount per month. It is for 2 locations in Rio. If anyone is able or knowing a fiador, please contact me ASAP. The fiador is for the place of business(building). They basically need someone that has real estate already in Rio, that will cosign on the real estate rental contract. Thanks.

Viper10

Devilspinkick
09-22-09, 16:52
Imagine my surprise when I strolled out of the dressing room, took the turns to go to the relax room on the way to the showers and found a new wall. No relax room! It is not clear what is going on because one girl said something about a new room having internet that the girls would somehow use but they told me in reception they were putting in a better relax room.

Yeh, L´uomo just isn´t the same without the relax room to chill at. Hopefully they are in fact making a better lounge with computers/internet to boot. Then we can catch up on our e-mails while snuggling up with a Brasilian hottie.

When I visited there last week they were showing some rather graphic porn on the new LCD in the boate. I wasn´t super impressed with the talent but I´ve definitely seen worse. Unfortunately I won´t be around for the festa at the end of the month. Have been clocking a lot of hours at Quatro por Quatro.

- DSK

Fuddzie
09-22-09, 17:28
Brazil has the largest concentration of Japanese outside Japan. Has anyone encourtered any in the mongering treks?

Buscemi
09-22-09, 18:19
Brazil has the largest concentration of Japanese outside Japan. Has anyone encourtered any in the mongering treks?

You will see a few in Rio, but Sampa has the highest concentration of Japanese Bunda.

El Greco
09-22-09, 18:59
Montecarlo...nothing interesting.....then to Centaurus, closed on sunday, to Solarium...much worst than yesterday, when I got a disaster with MILF,today half disaster...still horny so let's been ripped off....to Marius....terraco atlantico very slow...it's raining....back to apartment to write e mail to my slovak girlfriend :) ....sunday definetely sad sundayYou have to get used that you need to take a day off on Rio's sundays.

After all the whole western world does. LOL

I usually go to Canecao for a good show. Especially if it is a rainy Sunday!

Budge96
09-22-09, 19:13
On the ground and running well not quite needed a nap after the 9.5 hour flight from the US.

Here in Copa for a week for the first time in 6 months.

Weather looks a little iffy but hell if the beach is closed who cares?

See ya at Quatro por Quatro, adios amigos Bert

Azn Safado
09-22-09, 21:52
I have to ask just out of curiousity.
The food is great at Rio Scenarium, both the appetizers and the "dinners". Is there a difference if you eat a filé mignon or pasteis? Don't you think that the locals will know that you're a gringo anyway. :)

IMO I appreciate that the local girls notice that I'm not a brazilian. That's one of the triumph cards when looking for non-pro's in Brazil.

What might be embarrassing is that if you give the impression that you are a stranger to brazilian nightlife and don't know how to act with the ladies, but that depends more on other factors than what you eat. ;)

Just my opinion.
Agreed on all points. I think my tour guide was bored and wanted to play a "spot the tourist" game of some sort, so she made that observation about the meal.

Dwilso39
09-23-09, 00:23
I have to ask just out of curiousity.
The food is great at Rio Scenarium, both the appetizers and the "dinners". Is there a difference if you eat a filé mignon or pasteis? Don't you think that the locals will know that you're a gringo anyway. :)

IMO I appreciate that the local girls notice that I'm not a brazilian. That's one of the triumph cards when looking for non-pro's in Brazil.

What might be embarrassing is that if you give the impression that you are a stranger to brazilian nightlife and don't know how to act with the ladies, but that depends more on other factors than what you eat. ;)

Just my opinion.

This is a good point that I make to my friends all the time: be yourself. Lots of guys think they have to try to "be Brasilian". BullShit! Be who you are becuase there are "MANY" Brasilian women that are dying to meet a gringo. Bottom line: be yourself.

JadedMD
09-23-09, 01:42
I visited Rio recently and experienced a fantasy of mine – two girls at the same time. I used the International Sex Guide to gather all the info I needed to prepare so the experience was amazing.

Before going to Rio I practiced my Portuguese and learned all the phrases of what to ask for using the section on sexual phrases in translation (chupar sem camisinha etc.) I even brought a cheat sheet with the words I was looking for to Brazil.

When I arrived in Rio, I bought some Viagra and Vagisil lubricant over the counter at a local Brazilian drug store (I don't need either normally but I figured that I was going to fuck 2 Brazilian *****s so I had better be prepared). I brought extra condoms from the US because I don't trust Brazilian condoms.

My friend and I went to L'oumos at 4 when they open. We paid the entrance fee (60 reais), changed into our robes and put our stuff in our lockers taking a shower. Then I started to talk to all the Terma girls, asking them the questions that Bubba suggests in his guide to screen a girl. I was looking for 2 girls who would BBBJ at the same time, have sex with each other and lick my ass. Anal is not my thing. If a girl refused to BBBJ, lick my ass or to have sex with her friend, I stopped talking to her. In this way I interviewed about 7 cute girls. One girl complained that I was talking to all the girls but fuck her. I settled on a cute Blonde and a Brunette named Pia. They agreed to everything I asked for and kissed each other to prove it. They said they would do BBBJ as long as I was clean. I asked for a room for 40 minutes with both, (paying 390 reals (210 each for a room with a 30 real discount because it was before 7)). While I was waiting for them Pia (cute brunette) backed out. I think she expected me to get a 300 real for a 1 hour suite instead 210 of a single room. Anyway she gave attitude so I immediately dropped her like Bubba recommended. I found another cute brunette (who was friends of the blonde) and off we went to our threesome. My friend who was with me was very impressed by the way I handled these chicks. Since I had never been to a *****house before, I credit the international sex guide for my knowledge and monger-sense.

The girls showered and we went to the room. They had lube and condoms and cleaning cloths. I entered a single room about the size of a king size bed with a mattress for a floor and 2 pillows. I locked the door, sealing myself in a room with 2 hot girls. First I took of my own cloths, then I had the girls take off everything except their g-strings. We kissed, I pushed them down so they could kiss my nipples. Then I motioned they should suck my cock. They took out a cleaning cloth and cleaned it off good (it was already clean) before sucking it at the same time, one head on each side of my shaft. I had one of them suck my cock while the other sucked my balls. Then one sucked my cock BBBJ while the other licked my ass (with a condom). I switched girls and responsibilities. It was amazing.

Then we transitioned to sex. I fucked the blonde doggie while the brunette licked my ass. (Both with condoms). Then I fucked the brunette missionary while the blonde licked my ass. We continued to rotate positions. Every time I switched girls we changed condoms until we ran out. Luckily, I had 2 extra of my own. The girls acted well but I could tell they were just going through the motions. With 10 minutes left, I finally came in the brunette while I was kissing the blonde. We were out of condoms, so the girls had to call for more. They refused to double BBBJ after I had come, so one of them HJ me while the other ate her out. I quickly got back in the mode and fucked the blonde who I had not come in until time ran out. Overall, a great experience for 450 real.

My friend wanted to have a girl but didn't get Pia because of the attitude she gave me. Met 2 guys in the club who spent a lot of money but didn't get the same great experience I did because they were not prepared.

Thanks to Bubba, Jackson and the International Sex Guide for enabling me to experience a formerly unfulfilled sexual fantasy.

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Geofagus
09-23-09, 05:09
This is a good point that I make to my friends all the time: be yourself. Lots of guys think they have to try to "be Brasilian". BullShit! Be who you are becuase there are "MANY" Brasilian women that are dying to meet a gringo. Bottom line: be yourself.


go into bars or clubs and try and act like Brazilians. It doesnt work, trust me. I speak 110% fluent Brazilian Porto (3 guys out here can verify that) and yet I am 110% Gringo. I agree with you totally!! Be Yourself! Brazilian women really like American men because its our nature to treat women kind and loving. I will always here stories from Brazilian women (even real hotties) that Brazilian men suk big time. There are so many women in Brazil, that infidelity and faithfulness is a tremendous issue.

Thats where I got a major upper hand. I'm a Gringo, speak their native language real well and I act myself, dress like a gringo and eat like one. I have made over 25 plus trips to Brazil, was married to one and never, ever, ever had to be or act someone I wasnt to get attention from a local woman..ever.

Sperto
09-23-09, 11:05
I was looking for 2 girls who would BBBJ at the same time, have sex with each other and lick my ass.
I'll make a note that I will not deep-kiss any Luomo-girls.

Math92
09-23-09, 14:35
Hi,

I will go to Rio 1st week of March. I have change my plan. I will be there instead of Fortaleza.

I have booked an apartment from www.gringomanagement.com in Posto 5. David seems to be a great guy.

It will be my second time in Rio and I will go alone.

1st time, I spent 2 weeks last February during Carnaval.

I was with a friend but he is not really in our favorite game. So I couldn't apreciate.

I just went twice to Terma Luomo. I really liked it except a tall blond girl with fake breast who was to much pro for my taste. She seems to come from northern Europe.

I went 2 times to Help. Each time I got a goof experience. They were not the most beautiful but really GFE and "complethina".

Price R$200 for TLN.

First one told me that usually she ask for R$400 but she will come with me for half.

I do not have any pictures but for my next trip, I will do my best to bring you a great report.

I am doing my homeworks to prepare my trip thanks to your great reports.

My goal is to have 2 girls/ day and try my first 3some.

PS: I apologize for my english. I manage better in french and english.

If some of you are un Rio, I will glad to share a beer and hunt some cuties.

Buscemi
09-23-09, 15:34
Thanks for the report, one question, when did L'uomo start charging upon arrival, I have been there over 20 times and always paid the "entrance fee", along with my bar tab and any programs upon exit?


My friend and I went to L'oumos at 4 when they open. We paid the entrance fee (60 reais), changed into our robes and put our stuff in our lockers taking a shower.

The Watcher
09-23-09, 23:31
I'll make a note that I will not deep-kiss any Luomo-girls.

Hilarious!! He did, however, state that the girls did use a condom to lick his ass. What these girls do before they are with you is like the sausage making process - it is better not to know! lol

Beach Star
09-23-09, 23:50
go into bars or clubs and try and act like Brazilians. It doesnt work, trust me. I speak 110% fluent Brazilian Porto (3 guys out here can verify that) and yet I am 110% Gringo. I agree with you totally!! Be Yourself! Brazilian women really like American men because its our nature to treat women kind and loving. I will always here stories from Brazilian women (even real hotties) that Brazilian men suk big time. There are so many women in Brazil, that infidelity and faithfulness is a tremendous issue.

Thats where I got a major upper hand. I'm a Gringo, speak their native language real well and I act myself, dress like a gringo and eat like one. I have made over 25 plus trips to Brazil, was married to one and never, ever, ever had to be or act someone I wasnt to get attention from a local woman..ever.

Well, thats cool man, but I am not sure what you are trying to say. Anyway, congratulations on your fluency in the portuguese language!!! Great.
Just curiosity, but how do you eat like a gringo?????

Exec Talent
09-24-09, 00:55
Well, thats cool man, but I am not sure what you are trying to say. Anyway, congratulations on your fluency in the portuguese language!!! Great.
Just curiosity, but how do you eat like a gringo?????
Ooh, Ooh. I know. I know.

You hold your sandwich in your bare hand rather than using a waxy napkin!

Now, what do I win?

Perkele
09-24-09, 03:00
Ooh, Ooh. I know. I know.

You hold your sandwich in your bare hand rather than using a waxy napkin!

Now, what do I win?You have won a roundtrip from Copacabana to Leblon at your own convenience.

Congratulations!

Sperto
09-24-09, 05:38
Just curiosity, but how do you eat like a gringo?????Speaking about eating.

Have you noticed that many brazilians eat their hamburgers holding them upside down?

El Greco
09-24-09, 12:56
I recently wrote a couple of brief reports on Lapa and how to get there by bus from Copa. My tour guide said you can spot a tourist at Rio Scenarium because he/she is eating dinner there. Apparently, locals only eat appetizers there.I've be going to Rio Scenarium from its very begining when only the ground floor was operating and hardly any tourist there. I didn't notice anything like that.

It was one of the very few places, back then, that I could enjoy a perfect esspreso after my dinner there. I remember entrance fee, a couple of Bohemias, a nice fillet mignon dinner and an espreso for less than 50 Reais when euro was 3.9 Reais just before Lula was elected first time. It was like stealing from them. Good old times.

Pelicano
09-24-09, 14:24
Brazil has the largest concentration of Japanese outside Japan. Has anyone encourtered any in the mongering treks?SuiGeneris has posted an excellent list of japanese or half japanese GDP's in the Sao Paulo thread.

Pelicano
09-24-09, 14:43
This is a good point that I make to my friends all the time: be yourself. Lots of guys think they have to try to "be Brasilian". BullShit! Be who you are becuase there are "MANY" Brasilian women that are dying to meet a gringo. Bottom line: be yourself.I will go one step above this and when a well seasoned monger friend of mine from the US is visiting Rio, i will introduce him, to the local garotas,(pro or non pro) as my shy cousin from the US, that has never even had a girlfriend. He plays along very well and you should see them competing to teach him a thing or two! Works every time and in any environment, as long as he manages to keep his game on.

Greengo
09-24-09, 19:31
Anyone currently in Rio that can provide info?

I've seen this terma mentioned on other websites and it seems to be top-notch. Any brave souls care to give it a try and report?

Thanks in advance,

Greengo

Exec Talent
09-24-09, 21:03
Anyone currently in Rio that can provide info?

I've seen this terma mentioned on other websites and it seems to be top-notch. Any brave souls care to give it a try and report?

Thanks in advance,

Greengo
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Safado Lover
09-24-09, 21:15
Anyone currently in Rio that can provide info?

I've seen this terma mentioned on other websites and it seems to be top-notch. Any brave souls care to give it a try and report?

Thanks in advance,

GreengoHi Greengo!

I have been in June and I can tell you that it is not one of the best Termas. Yes there are some pretty girls but not comparable to MonteCarlo, Centaurus or Termas 65.

Mr Enternational
09-24-09, 23:32
Just curiosity, but how do you eat like a gringo????? Also eating your pizza with your hand and not with a knife and fork.

Jesuscola
09-24-09, 23:34
Also eating your pizza with your hand and not with a knife and fork.

Heheh...and entirely devoid of any trace of ketchup or mayonnaise to boot...

Eros74
09-24-09, 23:55
Back home, let's try to write something usefull for all.

First suggest is that if you are going to use escort, better that you are sure the first thing you are gonna to do once you arrive in Brazil is to spend at least couple of hours reading gpguia and write on piece of paper name of agency and which girls of this agency have at least couple of positive rates, then think to call....

Yes you maybe do not understand much of portuguese to be able to read all the comments, but at the end, all you need is to know which girls have good rate and for this you need zero portuguese....

Then when it is about to call an agency, you need very basic portuguese, the kind of girl you want and the address of your hotel or apartment.....another thing is to get what you want....

Karlamodels:
I called on sunday and nobody answered, I called on monday to order 4 girls for me and my buddy and they had one girl available to the first number I called and other 3 girls available to the second number they gave me, so it was a bit too complicated, as it was hard the girls could be arrive at same time, so nothing more to report.

Ciaplus:
I asked for a thin, white or light skin and completa and the receptionist told me Camila does anal for 20 reais more, I agree, cause I saw the pictures of her but the girl arrived was totally different. Yes thin, but brown skin and enough ugly face, I only told her she is much different from photo, she smiled and said no problem, just 20 reais for taxi. She called the receptionist, I gave her 20 reais and she left less than 2 minutes from the moment she arrived and the way she smiled to me, made me think I am not the first one who sent her back.I am pretty sure that if she travel by metro or minibus, even with only the money of taxi, she can earn enough money at the end of the day....
P.S. I asked that to receptionist for Camila take the book, so I could see the real pictures of girls, but she said, they have no book !?!

Riosexsite:
This is a web page of only freelancers, so you call directly the girl and not a receptionist that, listening you are a gringo, send you what she wants.
Yeah, the price are higher, but if I pay about 300 reais for 40 minutes with terma girl, why not the same price for 60 minutes with a real nice model type girl ?
So I choose and I called Livia Werneck....when she arrived I almost fall down to the floor.....very nice girl ! Thin, nice face, white skin, little ass and very polite as she said 300 reais for one hour, taxi is 20 reais and 50 reais for anal, only if we will have anal. I paid her 370 reais and before to leave she gave me back 50 reais cause she said I have dick too big for anal.

So...if it is a rainy day, maybe you can have some fun try to get, from cheap escort agency as karla and ciaplus, the girl you like, but if you are as me before to leave for airport, with not enough time to go to 4x4 and you want to be sure, I only suggest riosexsite. There are there even girls for 200 reais 1 hour or 250 2 hours, so just try. At the end, I think it is hard you get something different from the photo, as the girl I got was even better live.

And....read gpguia...very helpfull even when it is gonna to choose a girl inside terma....

P.S. yes, I got also a 3some from megaclassrj, but I will report lately cause that day, was the best day of all my holiday so it deserves a long report :)

Iamsmooth
09-25-09, 01:14
Today I received a call from my bank that two charges via my Bank Debit Card was made three days after my return from Rio for $1,004.00 and $268.00. Of course the card was cancelled and the charges are still in a pending state. If they go through I will have to file a fraudulent claim to get the money credited back.

The only ATM I used in Rio was at the JW Marriott Hotel in Copacabana. I will have the US Embassy, where I working on business call the hotel and let then know of the incident. Hopefully, the hotel can pinpoint it to the owners of the ATM who must have installed one of those devices that steal bank card information.

I should have known better, but who would expect that this would happen at the Marriott.

Member #3439
09-25-09, 02:00
Hilarious! He did, however, state that the girls did use a condom to lick his ass. What these girls do before they are with you is like the sausage making process. It is better not to know! LOLI think a lot of Brasilian girls just like ass play.

I was molested by a girl in Bacos in Sao Paulo who snuck in from BBBJ and ate my ass with no condom. And I'd just finished a long day at the office, no shower. Stinky ass. I was a real greenhorn monger at the time, so it shook me up a bit.

A couple months ago, Brenda at Flavia Massage was also trying to go for the ass with her tongue in the middle of BBBJ. And she had also wanted to be anally fucked right away without even requring any vag stimulation. I had no problem obliging her fetish for being ass fucked, but didn't let this girl lick my ass.

Greengo
09-25-09, 06:06
Anyone know how you can access this site from the US?

It used to work just fine but now?

Thanks in advance

Sperto
09-25-09, 10:21
I was molested by a girl in Bacos in Sao Paulo who snuck in from BBBJ and ate my ass with no condom. And I'd just finished a long day at the office, no shower. Stinky ass.
Great, I was just preparing my lunch.

Safado Lover
09-25-09, 11:21
Anyone know how you can access this site from the US?

It used to work just fine but now?

Thanks in advanceWith a Brazilian Proxy.

Try this: http://www.proxy4free.com/page1.html

Poucolouco
09-25-09, 15:25
Today at 05:21 - Great, I was just preparing my lunch.

Lunch at 05:21?

Eros74
09-25-09, 17:05
Lunch at 05:21?

....Breakfast at the Y :) :)

Hughdad
09-25-09, 17:10
Today I received a call from my bank that two charges via my Bank Debit Card was made three days after my return from Rio for $1,004.00 and $268.00. Of course the card was cancelled and the charges are still in a pending state. If they go through I will have to file a fraudulent claim to get the money credited back.

The only ATM I used in Rio was at the JW Marriott Hotel in Copacabana. I will have the US Embassy, where I working on business call the hotel and let then know of the incident. Hopefully, the hotel can pinpoint it to the owners of the ATM who must have installed one of those devices that steal bank card information.

I should have known better, but who would expect that this would happen at the Marriott.Crooks can easily install card readers over the top of exsiting card readers to steal info. They had a news story a few months back in Philadelphia and they demostrated in real time how quick they can do it. And these guys were doing it in high-traffic areas at BoA bank branch ATMs!

Sperto
09-25-09, 18:01
Lunch at 05:21?
Time zones...

Poucolouco
09-25-09, 19:20
Time zones...

Central Europe?

Jesuscola
09-26-09, 02:02
Crooks can easily install card readers over the top of exsiting card readers to steal info. They had a news story a few months back in Philadelphia and they demostrated in real time how quick they can do it. And these guys were doing it in high-traffic areas at BoA bank branch ATMs!

There was a report about this on the news in Rio a couple months back. They showed security camera footage of the guys at work. They actually open up the machine and put their stuff inside, so it's damn near undetectable. HSBC in Copa is also a regular target.

Member #3439
09-26-09, 03:29
Great, I was just preparing my lunch.Okay, sorrrry Sperto. I couldn't resist. I'll pm you and buy you lunch the next time I'm in town.

Does anyone else have stories about any GdP's with peculiar sexual habits or requests? Certainly, if I've experienced a couple of GdPs who like quirky stuff, you long-time veterans must have a wealth of humorous experiences.

Amerioca
09-26-09, 06:48
Just got off the phone with my amiga in Rio. She stated that Help will remain open until after Carnival. LOL, this place will never close.

Speaking of Help, I heard a cool techno song on my most recent visit. The lyrics went...."Give it to me....All the love that you have......Give it to me.... As much love as you can.....Give it to me.....All I need is you....." Shazam did not pick it up.

Exec Talent
09-26-09, 08:34
Okay, sorrrry Sperto. I couldn't resist. I'll pm you and buy you lunch the next time I'm in town.

Does anyone else have stories about any GdP's with peculiar sexual habits or requests? Certainly, if I've experienced a couple of GdPs who like quirky stuff, you long-time veterans must have a wealth of humorous experiences.
I do not think you want to go there. Sperto would never be able to eat and read the forum at the same time again. There are reasons some of us are not graphic in our reporting.

Black Snake
09-26-09, 13:53
Dose anyone twitter their reports? And if you so do you do it from the Blackberry or from the laptop? I will be in Rio in November and I will twitter and add a detail report here along with my pic's.

Alex Deuce
09-26-09, 15:18
Today I received a call from my bank that two charges via my Bank Debit Card was made three days after my return from Rio for $1,004.00 and $268.00. Of course the card was cancelled and the charges are still in a pending state. If they go through I will have to file a fraudulent claim to get the money credited back.

The only ATM I used in Rio was at the JW Marriott Hotel in Copacabana. I will have the US Embassy, where I working on business call the hotel and let then know of the incident. Hopefully, the hotel can pinpoint it to the owners of the ATM who must have installed one of those devices that steal bank card information.

I should have known better, but who would expect that this would happen at the Marriott.

That has happened to me every time I have been to RIO or SP. Why I use to love the American Express Travel cards and now only use my Amex to get money. Very secure and they know how I handle my money and will immediately kick any charge back. Ill take the shitty exchange rates for security and ease of mind. Too much made of exchange rates IMHO. Unless it like 10% Difference no use in shopping around and its never greater than a 5% differential.

Abzsafado
09-26-09, 18:14
I think a lot of Brasilian girls just like ass play.

A couple months ago, Brenda at Flavia Massage was also trying to go for the ass with her tongue in the middle of BBBJ. And she had also wanted to be anally fucked right away without even requring any vag stimulation. I had no problem obliging her fetish for being ass fucked, but didn't let this girl lick my ass.

What difference is there really in the end product if a girl sticks her tongue up your ass or does a bit of ATM, the shit ends up in the same place.

The one that gets me is the number of them that get off on really violent sex, that want to be slapped or choked, freaked me out the first time it happened to me.

Amerioca
09-26-09, 18:47
AMEX rocks. With the Plat or Black cards, you can purchase AMEX Traveller's Checks, and cash them at an AMEX, without any charges. There was an office at Copacaban Palace....did not see it the last time I walked by. Did they relocate or close down? Also, when exchangin TCs as a Plat or Black Member, they give you a better rate than what is posted.


That has happened to me every time I have been to RIO or SP. Why I use to love the American Express Travel cards and now only use my Amex to get money. Very secure and they know how I handle my money and will immediately kick any charge back. Ill take the shitty exchange rates for security and ease of mind. Too much made of exchange rates IMHO. Unless it like 10% Difference no use in shopping around and its never greater than a 5% differential.

Eros74
09-27-09, 00:00
Safado Lover, I tried couple of brazilian proxy in mozilla just a while ago, but still not able to get into gpguia. Did you try ? Does it works ?

This time I did ATM only once, the first day, inside banco do brazil in nossa senhora de copa, then I changed only cash all the time.
I went back home with thousand of reais, so next time I will never use ATM, specially after that I read how easily they steal bank card infos.

Azn Safado
09-27-09, 00:52
Safado Lover, I tried couple of brazilian proxy in mozilla just a while ago, but still not able to get into gpguia. Did you try ? Does it works ?

This time I did ATM only once, the first day, inside banco do brazil in nossa senhora de copa, then I changed only cash all the time.
I went back home with thousand of reais, so next time I will never use ATM, specially after that I read how easily they steal bank card infos.
I think bringing cash is the best route - you just have to be careful about carrying it and transporting it to the apartment or hotel safely. On the trip I was on 2 weeks ago, I brought a lot of USD and was able to get a rate of 1.88-1.90 at a cambio (changing $500 at a time) even though xe.com quoted 1.82. My friend was withdrawing from Citibank ATM everyday and getting hosed with a rate of 1.76-1.78. The 6%+ discrepancy (cambio vs ATM) matters quite a bit, since for every $500 you are getting screwed out of $30 or more USD, ie, almost the equivalent of one entry fee at a terma. Those costs start adding up.

Jan 156
09-27-09, 01:02
I think bringing cash is the best route - you just have to be careful about carrying it and transporting it to the apartment or hotel safely.

I agree on both points personally (just personally - I'm not saying it's a preferred option for everyone, just one of my main preferred options.) This should maybe go on the crime and safety thread though I'm not entirely sure of the wisdom on posting a 'how to avoid getting robbed' on the internet apart from the obvious. Happy to take PMs on stuff like the above is they're not too numerous.

Math92
09-27-09, 01:47
Do you know this website? www.muraldoprazer.com/

There are some cute girls. Have you already tested it ?

Mr Enternational
09-27-09, 06:33
The one that gets me is the number of them that get off on really violent sex, that want to be slapped or choked, freaked me out the first time it happened to me.
Yeah but ever since then I have been choking the shit out of them!

Golfinho
09-27-09, 19:02
AMEX rocks. With the Plat or Black cards, you can purchase AMEX Traveller's Checks, and cash them at an AMEX, without any charges. There was an office at Copacaban Palace....did not see it the last time I walked by. Did they relocate or close down? Also, when exchangin TCs as a Plat or Black Member, they give you a better rate than what is posted.Wasn't AMEX in Brazil bought out by Bradesco? Amex exchange rates on purchases suck.

Jamaicanceo
09-28-09, 18:52
wasn't amex in brazil bought out by bradesco? amex exchange rates on purchases suck.two day of posts regarding financial services and few of none on bunda. when we're done talking about helpee, we talk about finances, huh? just asking.

Hughdad
09-28-09, 20:20
two day of posts regarding financial services and few of none on bunda. when we're done talking about helpee, we talk about finances, huh? just asking.what? you did not see that in the midst of all the helpful financial information exchange, mr. enternational posted this gem about gdps:

"yeah but ever since then i have been choking the shit out of them!"

so, not all the class and charm have disappeared from here!

Golfinho
09-28-09, 22:17
two day of posts regarding financial services and few of none on bunda. when we're done talking about helpee, we talk about finances, huh? just asking.you got something to post on bunda, so post it.

no one telling you what you can and can't say.

Eros74
09-28-09, 22:22
After friday afternoon with my buddy at 4x4 but not in mood to go to cabine, cause my plan was to have later in my apartment my first 3some, I went back to copa and in front of pc I started to search for an agency.

I never had before a 3some, cause I knew very well it worth it only if the both girls like each other, otherwise you only spend twice for not double fun.

However, it was about 22:00 and I decided to use www.megaclassrj.com

Obviously I did my homeworks as best I could and I wrote on a piece of paper in portuguese something about this:

- 2 girls for dupla

- thin and white or light skin

- both completa

- the address, name of building and number of my apartment

- the numbers of my cell phone in portuguese, just in case.

Then I call and the receptionist, told me, that she called me after a while to check which girls were available for my requests.

She called me and she gave me 6 names, I was in front of my computer, but more or less, all the girls looked nice to me, so I said to her clear, that if the girls were be really good in beauty and service, so I will use their agency often in future as I was foreigner but living in Rio.... ( just an innocent BS to try all I could to have something good ).

So she said, I send you Livia and Hellem..... now before I keep on posting.... go to search in the site these 2 girls and tell me if they look at least similar to the first photo I post here.... obviously not !
That what I was afraid and now I am pretty sure, all the foto in the site are fake cause when I asked to receptionist for girls to bring me the book of girls, she said they have not.

However.... she said in half hour they will knock my door.... so I just drunk a beer and enjoy the wating of my first 3some.

When they knocked the door, I open and.... who are they ?!?
In a while they were inside and went to sit on sofa....yes, I could easily pay taxi fee and let them go back, but I thought: " let's take the risk, they are almost thin as I like...maybe it will be a double GFE...".

I was enough wrong....

I paid them, 200 reais each and total 20 for taxi, then we all started to dress off and... I have to honestly say, it was very nice, to get naked together 2 girls in the same place....

Problems began immediately as while one was kissing me in the bed the second one put condom on my brother....I immediately told her, I asked for full service and she said, my friend does it....so I kissed the second one, while the first bbbj me....

It was really cold session, almost sad, specially when they told me, they wanted 100 reais each one to french kiss each other, obviously I did not pay and I tried to get fun from a clear cold experience...

Not much to say, beside that I was fucking them and already thinkng what after ???
As I was sure, they left and me still horny as a dog with 3 balls.

I can add that next time I will have 3some it will be or in terma, expensive I know, but with higher guarantee of GFE or using karlamodels for half the price of megaclassrj.

The worst thing was that they really worked alone, I almost laugh when I was banging one in doggy style and the second one.....started to give me massage to my shoulders telling me: " relax " .....despite the size of their pussies, I could say they were virgin for the zero attitude to good sex....

However.....it was about midnight, one more time alone in front of my pc, horny as well and with the choice of riosexsite or help.
I called about 8 girls supposed to work 24hrs, none answered, so, shower and I was at Help.

There were some nice girls, but as always, the problem with Help girls is the attitude and not the beauty, I was already ripped off once, so after 2 sharks I did not want to risk for the third lazy one.
I even chit chat with couple of girls, but no one really interested me, so it was 2:00 and still horny on friday night in Rio in holiday.....too bad, so bad !

The last, last chance was.... my "beloved" prado junior ....

Going there I stopped for a beer to balcony and nothing even there....

At prado junior I tried pussycat, only 2 ugly girls.....Senso, 5-6 girls and nothing really nice......Erotica seems to me a gay party, cause full of customers and almost no girls.

I have to say that I did not pay entrance, I just asked to the man at front door of the clubs if I could check the girls before to decide to pay and they all agree easily. So the last one.....

Cicciolina was not much better, but I decided to stay there, cause it was the last place. ( yes theoretically Barbarella too, but I was lucky my first day there, not sure I could be lucky twice in the biggest rip off place of all copa... ).

To make long short, after a couple of cigarettes was 3:00 am and I really started to lose my hope to have a real GFE when suddenly get into the club and directly to toilet a girl familiar to me.....

I went close to toilet waiting for her, that came out with different clothes and.....shit !!! She was HER !!!!

Now, so far as really news in Rio go fast, I covered her face and I do not write her name, but I spoke with her in a terma a couple of days before, even if I did not session with her, but I saw her in bikini, great body and we french kissed a lot......so I really got a nice smile on my face !!!

I asked her if she is busy, she said, she arrived a while before, ;) , I offer her a drink and....how much do you want ?

She smiled and said 300 reais. I wanted to start to negotiate, but first of all I was tired, really, second, in very need of good sex, third....why to negotiate the price with a surely GFE with terma girl and not.......ok for 300 reais but you stay till noon !

She asked me if I was in apartment or hotel and she try to agree till 8:00 am.
Thank to the fact I was tired and so horny ( I mean I wanted to have sex at the morning with her in total relax and not in hurry), so I said 300reais but till noon or I go to sleep.

Probably she likes me as I liked her from when I saw her in terma, probably she thought why not and that better 300 reais now for longer time instead of maybe same price, or nothing at all, for shorter time.

So.... I got the best night of all my holiday, not only cause she was the only girl I slept with, but mainly cause terma girl are for 99% GFE and have one of them for almost 9 hours at the price of 1 hour in terma....is not bad...IMHO.

For my second travel to Rio, that's all folks, enjoy the pictures.

P.S. special thanks to Jake993 for his suggests by PM.... hey, I owe you much more than a beer ;)

Rio Bob
09-29-09, 00:16
Just got off the phone with my amiga in Rio. She stated that Help will remain open until after Carnival. LOL, this place will never close.

Speaking of Help, I heard a cool techno song on my most recent visit. The lyrics went...."Give it to me....All the love that you have......Give it to me.... As much love as you can.....Give it to me.....All I need is you....." Shazam did not pick it up.

Sounds like Madonna "Give it to me" I bought the CD from the DJ at Help, I am listening to it now.

Help will remain open until after Carnival? Great

I guess I'll see it one more time in my life, It's what I live for.

Azn Safado
09-29-09, 04:45
...
Cicciolina was not much better, but I decided to stay there, cause it was the last place. ( yes theoretically Barbarella too, but I was lucky my first day there, not sure I could be lucky twice in the biggest rip off place of all copa... ).
...
Probably she likes me as I liked her from when I saw her in terma, probably she thought why not and that better 300 reais now for longer time instead of maybe same price, or nothing at all, for shorter time.

So.... I got the best night of all my holiday, not only cause she was the only girl I slept with, but mainly cause terma girl are for 99% GFE and have one of them for almost 9 hours at the price of 1 hour in terma....is not bad...IMHO.
...

Nice report!

I've only been to Ciccolina's twice, and based on the girls I've talked to over there, it seems the going rate is anywhere between R$150 - R$250 for an all-nighter. I've only taken one girl out of there and she was very cute - cost me R$250 for an all-nighter. So R$300 for a top girl from Ciccolina's seems reasonable, especially considering she's a terma girl and how hot her body looked in your pictures. In comparison, a girl at Solarium a couple of weeks was asking for R$300 for 1 hour at my apartment with no wiggle-room, so negotiations ended in a stalemate.

Sperto
09-29-09, 05:58
Help will remain open until after Carnival? Great
I guess I'll see it one more time in my life, It's what I live for.
You can continue living... until March.
http://jbonline.terra.com.br/leiajb/2009/09/24/primeiro_caderno/diretor_da_help_diz_que_nao_fecha_antes_de_marco.asp

Jake993
09-29-09, 08:25
For my second travel to Rio, that's all folks, enjoy the pictures.

P.S. special thanks to Jake993 for his suggests by PM.... hey, I owe you much more than a beer ;) Lukasek - happy to help and glad to hear that your second trip to Rio was better than the first! I am in Moscow this week freezing my ass off. They tell me that we will have the first snow of the season this week. Fuck - I am not dressed for this!!!!
But the girls are hot and as good looking as ever so I will survive!

Math92
09-29-09, 11:38
You can continue living... until March.
http://jbonline.terra.com.br/leiajb/2009/09/24/primeiro_caderno/diretor_da_help_diz_que_nao_fecha_antes_de_marco.aspI wish it will remain open untill end of march. I will be there the first week.

I got an apartment just near Help.

Eros74
09-30-09, 23:21
So far as here it seems slow in the last days, I share something.

This time I got 7 girls from termas, 3 from 4x4, 2 from solarium, 1 from luomo and from montecarlo too.

During my first trip, my favourite terma was solarium, but during this trip both the girls were a... disaster.

However I can say it was my fault, cause with the first one I was in hurry, not much patience to "test" her and she was smarter too. She was one of the few that are older than 30 yo, nice face and smile, but big ass. She was smart as, when we spoke, she seems very friendly, but once in cabine after less than half minute of bbbj wanted to start immediately sex; even FK in cabine was not nice as at the bar. I should understood even cause she was almost the only one girl alone for all the time, neither customers or the other girls went to speak with her....just me LOL.
The second one was a bit drunk and instead to mean more fun in cabine, it turned to make her so lazy I got the feeling she paid me as she wanted daty and only a bit of bbbj.

However despite these 2 girls, all the others were fabulous as you can expect from terma girls.

4x4 for me it is a solid guarantee of GFE, yes it has the little bad point that it get so crowded that it is often hard to find a place where to sit down a while, so I never was able to have quite long and nice conversation with the girl, but once in cabine....you forgot how many hours it took you to get to Rio :)

Luomo and Montecarlo has for me a bit higher quality of girls, even if, obviously, much less choice, but with the good point that you can really relax there, as if you was in normal bar full of girls in bikini, these 2 termas do not have the feeling of sex factory that has 4x4.
To sit down and have nice conversation with the girl, for me it is part of the fun too.

I "regret" I did not see Centaurus, as I know it is very expensive and the rip off terma, but in january I saw there really many beautiful girls, so next trip I will go there and not on sunday as this time ;)

Cheers

KellySlater
10-01-09, 01:32
You can continue living... until March.

http://jbonline.terra.com.br/leiajb/2009/09/24/primeiro_caderno/diretor_da_help_diz_que_nao_fecha_antes_de_marco.****oes this person have any control over when it closes? I have no idea if it will or will not stay open until then but is this article proof of anything really? Or is it just someones "desire" or statement that it must?

Sperto
10-01-09, 18:45
Does this person have any control over when it closes? I have no idea if it will or will not stay open until then but is this article proof of anything really? Or is it just someones "desire" or statement that it must?
No, no and yes.

Who knows? At least nobody on this forum knows for sure.
We all just hope. Personally I hope it close before New Year.

Rio Bob
10-01-09, 20:07
Does this person have any control over when it closes? I have no idea if it will or will not stay open until then but is this article proof of anything really? Or is it just someones "desire" or statement that it must?

This is the first time I have ever seen a director of Help admit that Help will actually close as a result of this government action. Because of this my Opinion is that a deal was struck behind the scenes to give them one more Carnaval before the gravy train shuts down.

This also gives them 5 more months to get an alternate location ready, this way they can continue the gravy train. But if not hopefully the girls will just take over another club.

Redsox911
10-01-09, 20:07
Who's the girl in your pictures and from which Termas?

She looks fantastic, except for the jizz stains on her. LOL.

Bizzie
10-02-09, 04:23
personally i hope it close before new year.
you helpee hater, you:)
some of you regulars are so spoiled. but for the rest of us out on bail from the sex prison, despite sometimes poor quality, helpee was still a unique experience.

Amerioca
10-02-09, 04:58
Wasn't AMEX in Brazil bought out by Bradesco? Amex exchange rates on purchases suck.

No. AMEX shut down their office at the Copacabana Palace. BTW, American Airlines office is gone too. Oh well.

Allforrio
10-02-09, 09:56
you helpee hater, you:)

some of you regulars are so spoiled. but for the rest of us out on bail from the sex prison, despite sometimes poor quality, helpee was still a unique experience.i agree the ones who want help closed are the ones who have been going for years.

go figure

Bravo
10-02-09, 16:54
WOW!! Down to Madrid and Rio!!! Looks like Rio is far and ahead the favorite!

Eros74
10-02-09, 17:17
Yep... I am afraid it will win Rio....I bet 1 reais lol

Cunnilinguist
10-02-09, 17:50
Congratulations! Rio to host the 2016 Summer Olympics, Games of the XXXI Olympiad!

GO! Rio 2016 "LIVE YOUR PASSION"!

AUGUST 5 – 21. 2016 :D :D

The CunningLinguist

Gfe Finder
10-02-09, 17:59
Rio won.... May God HELP us all, pun intended.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/02/world/main5358718.shtml

Eros74
10-02-09, 18:09
If I think that with soccer on 2.014 and Olympics on 2.016 better to enjoy Rio right now as much as possible, cause these are the last golden years even for Rio?

What I am afraid is, that prices will go up and no more down and the city will be invaded to every kind of potencial monger, that as minimum will overpay GDP and so on.

I hope I am really wrong, however thieves and bandits will be very happy of this decision, they are gonna to have great "business" out there.

Gfe Finder
10-02-09, 18:16
....if I think that with soccer on 2.014 and Olympics on 2.016 better to enjoy Rio right now as much as possible, cause these are the last golden years even for Rio ?

What I am afraid is, that prices will go up and no more down and the city will be invaded to every kind of potencial monger, that as minimum will overpay GDP and so on....

I hope I am really wrong, however thieves and bandits will be very happy of this decision, they are gonna to have great "business" out there...The Golden Age* of Rio is already dead, I think. This will only make it worse, as it will throw supply and demand even further out of whack. Like you, I sincerely hope I'm wrong and would appreciate someone playing Devil's Advocate on these theories.

*=by "Golden Age," I refer to a time when Rio was relatively cheap, and not overrun by uninformed tourists. As a result, the GDPs had to provide better service to keep your interest and were willing to hang out with you for longer periods of time to protect their investment.

KellySlater
10-02-09, 18:32
I think people are perhaps over reaching on the impact. In terms of numbers, this is barely a bigger event than Carnival spread out over a larger part of Rio.

The Exchange rate may react at first but brazilian currency is so amazingly artificially inflated right now that I suspect well prior to 2016, it will tumble for many of the same reasons the dollar has recently.

The Cane
10-02-09, 18:39
What I am afraid is, that prices will go up and no more down and the city will be invaded to every kind of potencial monger, that as minimum will overpay GDP and so on....

I hope I am really wrong, however thieves and bandits will be very happy of this decision, they are gonna to have great "business" out there...

From personal experience, I have seen how big events like this drive prices up for everything, not just for the girls, and then they never, ever come back down. This really, really sucks for mongering in Rio. Big time! Do you realize how many horny guys are already zeroing in on Rio de Janeiro??? Puttin' push-pins into big, colorful wall maps!

Plan to go to Rio before Help is closed forever and before the weak dollar loses even more value to the gaining real! I expect the heat to be turned up on the termas and the whole of the sex industry in Rio. Just like in Beijing where they shut it down. They clamped down good!

Many China travelers report that things still haven't recovered to where they were before the Beijing games. Even if plenty of termas do remain open, prices are going to go sky high, and they won't come back down anytime soon after that. This is just awful news for the Rio monger nation!

It's going to be intriguing to watch Rio de Janeiro transform itself over the upcoming years leading up to the games. We don't know exactly what is going to happen, but based upon prior experience, I'm confident that Rio will be changed forever as a mongering destination, and specifically for the worse for seasoned international mongers.

Sperto
10-02-09, 18:39
....if I think that with soccer on 2.014 and Olympics on 2.016 better to enjoy Rio right now as much as possible, cause these are the last golden years even for Rio ?
No need to worry about something that's 7 years ahead.
You guys love to worry about everything. :D
The GP-prices, the dollar-rate, the quality of the water and now the olympics.

Dutch44
10-02-09, 18:52
Hmm...don't like it. I really hoped they would choose Madrid. Wonder though how they ever gonna get it done. They will have to break down whole parts of the city centre and create new highways from and to the airport. In fact they better tear down the entire airport and build a whole new one, now that I'm thinking about it. Then they will have to build lots of new hotels, clean up some of the central favela's, etc etc etc. It's going to be a HUGE challenge to get this one done.

...and I yes, I think it will be bad for our hobby, but only in the last 2 years before the Olympics. The coming years I think we won't see any significant changes.

Dutch44

Sperto
10-02-09, 19:35
Hmm...don't like it. I really hoped they would choose Madrid. Wonder though how they ever gonna get it done. They will have to break down whole parts of the city centre...
Howcome? They will build a stadium on Praça Quinze? There are plenty of room in Rio to build whatever they need. They managed the Pan American Games without any major problems. The Olympics is bigger, but they are very capable of managing that, even though it will cost quite a few reais.

I advice you to have a look at a map and do some study, and you'll discover that Rio doesn't consist of the area Copacabana-Centro. They have vast areas after Barra. Where do you think they held the Panam games? Av Rio Branco?

I think the Olympics in Rio is great news and I'm happy for all the brazilians.

Jamaicanceo
10-02-09, 20:50
No need to worry about something that's 7 years ahead.

You guys love to worry about everything. :D

The GP-prices, the dollar-rate, the quality of the water and now the olympics.Ditto Sperto!

Jamaicanceo
10-02-09, 20:50
Howcome? They will build a stadium on Praça Quinze? There are plenty of room in Rio to build whatever they need. They managed the Pan American Games without any major problems. The Olympics is bigger, but they are very capable of managing that, even though it will cost quite a few reais.

I advice you to have a look at a map and do some study, and you'll discover that Rio doesn't consist of the area Copacabana-Centro. They have vast areas after Barra. Where do you think they held the Panam games? Av Rio Branco?

I think the Olympics in Rio is great news and I'm happy for all the brazilians.
Ditto Sperto!

Devilspinkick
10-02-09, 21:56
I think the Olympics in Rio is great news and I'm happy for all the brazilians.

Congratulaions to Brazil and Rio! The winning of the Olympics is a great opportunity for the Brasilian people to showcase that wonderful country. Will this change the P4P scene in Rio? Most likely, but I reckon us mongers will have to adapt a bit.

Now I'm wondering if I'd like to visit Rio during the summer of dois mil dezesseis.

- DSK

Allforrio
10-02-09, 21:57
Howcome? They will build a stadium on Praça Quinze? There are plenty of room in Rio to build whatever they need. They managed the Pan American Games without any major problems. The Olympics is bigger, but they are very capable of managing that, even though it will cost quite a few reais.

I advice you to have a look at a map and do some study, and you'll discover that Rio doesn't consist of the area Copacabana-Centro. They have vast areas after Barra. Where do you think they held the Panam games? Av Rio Branco?

I think the Olympics in Rio is great news and I'm happy for all the brazilians.Here is their presentation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TCoqZNesnM

Eros74
10-02-09, 22:56
Sperto you are right about to not worry, as we cannot do nothing, so better to take it easy and relax.

However I do not think it is something 7 years ahead, as consider we are almost in 2.010, only 4 years to world soccer championship there and even for this Rio and its prices will start to change.

Even more they will start to feel it a bit in advance, so we do not have so much time before to see the begin of change in Rio.

No doubt that as scenary and view, Rio is a great city to host the Olympics, specially after seen the video of master plan, but from our point of view, specially mine that I could care less about sport that other and not me do, this is not something will help us in our hobby, despite a bit improvment about transportation.

Honestly I fan for Chicago, even if I am european and not american, Madrid and Tokyo fine too, but what for me it is not very "fair", is to give to the same city 2 great world events in only 2 years.

Is it a sort of awake of Brazil to the eyes of world ? I do not know, but I am afraid reais will get soon stronger than weaker in comparison to Usd and Euro and it does not help too.

Gfe Finder you are right, thanks for correction, golden years are gone, these are only....let's say silver years in comparison of what was Rio in the past, but still golden years regarding what Rio will become in couple of years.

Help will be close and I guess now nobody could care less, they will just move, where ? We will see.

I guess termas will stay open and termas in copa will be during Olympics more packed than the beach on new years eve.....maybe we mongers, should think for 2.016 to open in copa a new terma with all girls speaking english, it would not be a bad business ;)

We will have and we can to adapt, for sure, but I am afraid GDP will adapt much better than us in terms to get used to have much more customers they can afford. It is good for the sharks, they will work as never before, but more or less every pro will get used in a while to get much money with little effort, so I think service will gonna to get worst, much worst.....we can forget GFE during Olympics....

I imagine there will be so much testosterone in the air and so little pussy to cool down....even if girls will arrive to Rio from all the Brazil to get easy and fast money.

Again the suggest of Sperto is wise, do not worry, let's enjoy now Rio, maybe in the 2.016 we will be happily married ;)

However.... Chicago indeed was much better choice :)

Brugal8
10-02-09, 23:52
The Golden Age* of Rio is already dead, I think. This will only make it worse, as it will throw supply and demand even further out of whack. Like you, I sincerely hope I'm wrong and would appreciate someone playing Devil's Advocate on these theories.

*=by "Golden Age," I refer to a time when Rio was relatively cheap, and not overrun by uninformed tourists. As a result, the GDPs had to provide better service to keep your interest and were willing to hang out with you for longer periods of time to protect their investment.


Rio in terms of being cheap you got a point.

Brazil is now officially a SUPER POWER and playing with the big boys in every sense of the word.

Their economy is strong.

As far as garotas it all depends is just with time brazilian GDPs know how much we love their bundas and are now asking top dollar.

Also they are handling some serious EUROS.

I totally agree that Brazil is not what is use to be but what mongering spot still is?

However to me Brazil is still and will always be TOP because of all of the options and the variety of women.

Remember Brazil is bigger than Europe excluding Russia so we are not talking about a small country. I have always said this let's explore more and not focus only on RIO and SAO PAULO.

Brugal

Jamaicanceo
10-03-09, 01:30
Rio in terms of being cheap you got a point.

Brazil is now officially a SUPER POWER and playing with the big boys in every sense of the word.

Their economy is strong.

As far as garotas it all depends is just with time brazilian GDPs know how much we love their bundas and are now asking top dollar.

Also they are handling some serious EUROS.

I totally agree that Brazil is not what is use to be but what mongering spot still is?

However to me Brazil is still and will always be TOP because of all of the options and the variety of women.

Remember Brazil is bigger than Europe excluding Russia so we are not talking about a small country. I have always said this let's explore more and not focus only on RIO and SAO PAULO.

BrugalThe people will tell you that the average Brazilian doesn't get the benefits of their country's prosperity. I think mongers are overreacting to the Olympic and the oil discoveries, because the prosperous Brazilians don't want things to change. The upper-class minority prosper while the majority try and survive with their large country's weak infrastructure. Like Spring time, new flowers sprout as the old die. There will be new GDPs asking for what she needs, and it will be R$150 BBBJ, completa, etc. all night.

The issue is what airfare and exchange rates. I've been to Rio 3 times this year from Los Angeles. But the freaking airfare and exchange rate isn't to my liking. And if the airfare and exchange is not favorable, then many mongers will avoid Brazil. This will cause the GDPs to be less greedy with less mongers. A monger I met in March 2009 who lives in Atlanta and gets buddy passes from a relative is in the Dominican Republic today, because of the real dollar exchange rate alone.

And as for the Olympics, who gives a damn. When I watch it on TV, it's to watch the big ass and big leg track and field sprinters. the Olympics is more of a family thing, and I don't think it will affect mongering. Maybe the apartment rates will climb, but there will be too girls converging on Rio which will over saturate the GDP market. Therefore, the GDP rate will either stay the same or decline.

Gfe Finder
10-03-09, 02:07
Brazil is now officially a SUPER POWER and playing with the big boys in every sense of the word.

Their economy is strong.

As far as garotas it all depends is just with time brazilian GDPs know how much we love their bundas and are now asking top dollar.

Also they are handling some serious EUROS.

Agreed, and from this point of view it's good that they got the Olympics. Hopefully, they'll showcase what a great country and rising power that they are.


Remember Brazil is bigger than Europe excluding Russia so we are not talking about a small country. I have always said this let's explore more and not focus only on RIO and SAO PAULO.

Brugal

I think this may be the answer, at least in terms of being cheaper and exploring a broader variety of venues. I can only hope that the women would be eager to please! :)

Azn Safado
10-03-09, 02:31
rio in terms of being cheap you got a point.

brazil is now officially a super power and playing with the big boys in every sense of the word.

their economy is strong.
...
brugal
well, i'm moving to rio at the end of 2010 and was planning to live there for only a couple of years. it is reported they will spend $14.4 billion on infrastructure for the olympics and brazil will become the world's 5th largest economy by 2016. maybe i'll stay past the olympics now, only for its booming economy of course. :)

i wonder what will happen to the facilities after the olympics.
will it go the way of athens...?

ruined athens olympic facilities a warning to london
by malcolm moore, the daily telegraph | june 2, 2008

athens — the buildings constructed in athens for the olympic games four years ago are fly blown,
closed to the public, and covered in graffiti, a forewarning of the possible aftermath of the
london games in 2012.

of the 22 venues in the city, 21 are in a state of disrepair and under guard to prevent vandalism.

athens spent more than $18 billion on staging the olympics, slightly less than the current estimate
for the london games.

the hangover from the games was tremendous. greece was left with a national budget deficit of 6.1%,
more than twice the maximum allowed under european union rules.

the infrastructure, which was installed in such haste, has proven to be far too extravagant for the city.
it is difficult to imagine there was ever much local interest in continuing to use the baseball, kayaking,
fencing, and handball facilities down the coast at hellenikon.

a few miles outside the city center, the sprawling faliron complex that once hosted the beach volleyball
and taekwondo competitions is deserted and a lone security guard has not been able to deter youths from
spraying the walls with slogans.

inside one of the buildings, puddles of water are dotted across the marble floor.

the baseball stadium was briefly used for football matches, until the organizers realized that the shape
of the baseball diamond resulted in all the television cameras standing at the corner flag.

elsewhere at hellenikon, piles of rubbish are mounting behind heavily padlocked gates and electrical cables
hang loose from the walls. on one bridge, every light fitting has been wrenched out, while crumbling concrete
is ubiquitous, a sign of the speed at which the complex was built.

Eros74
10-03-09, 13:03
...I wonder what will happen to the facilities after the Olympics.
Will it go the way of Athens...?...

Surely, they will have much stuff they no more use and need. If you ask me if I would like to have Olympics in my home town, the answer is a definetely NOT !

P.S. we had here the world soccer many times ago and even now you see a lot of stuff, hotels and new streets, made just for that occasion and now totally useless.

Hitmanm3
10-03-09, 18:52
Well, I'm moving to Rio at the end of 2010 and was planning to live there for only a couple of years. It is reported they will spend $14.4 billion on infrastructure for the Olympics and Brazil will become the world's 5th largest economy by 2016. Maybe I'll stay past the Olympics now, only for its booming economy of course.

I wonder what will happen to the facilities after the Olympics.

Will it go the way of Athens...?

If they are smart they will do what USA did in Atlanta. They had pre-sold everything to the private sector and now it is being used for mayor league teams and so forth. But I do not believe they can pull that off. I am happy the USA did not get the Olympics it needs to clean house first before entering the realm of host. The USA has enough on its plate with the economy and its infrastructure, which has to be stabilized. I witch Rio well in hosting the Olympics and I really mean it. And those people or experts that predict the unpredictable good luck, no one can say what will happen in 2016. If they could, tell them to play the lottery and become an instant millionaire. Please give me a break.

KellySlater
10-03-09, 22:40
If they are smart they will do what USA did in Atlanta. They had pre-sold everything to the private sector and now it is being used for mayor league teams and so forth. But I do not believe they can pull that off. They did this for the pan american games pre-selling condos/apartments in zona oeste. Now those buidlings are sinking/slanting becuase they built them on unstable ground. Right where the olypic village will be for 2016. So I guess they were smart enough and pulled it off and the people who invested lost much of their money.

Tiradentes
10-04-09, 03:13
Crumbling infrastructures, polluted beaches, tirotios that on a weekly basis close the highways to the airport, favelas all over the places, crimes, thefts, abductions, assassinations, unpredictable weathers, pickpocketing, shit on shoes, etc....

Yet the suits in Denmark choose Rio.

Hosting an Olympic event is a privilege and not a right.

Rio did not deserve to host the Olympics.

Bad Boy Billy
10-04-09, 03:16
Guys I must re-enforce the heading - I am NOT whinging here - just expressing my views.

I recently spent 5 nights in Rio - Sept 17 to 22. Prior to my arrival I posted 2 posts in the 'Travel Plans and Announcements' thread regarding my visit.

I have been an inconsequential contributor to the Rio - and indeed whole Brazil - sections of ISG - most of my 770 plus posts have been regarding China - Beijing and Shanghai in particular.

I was very surprised that no senior member living in / visiting Rio at the same time as me responded.

Again - THIS IS NOT A WHINGE - it is just so foreign to me. If similar circumstances arose in Beijing or Shanghai when I was there and I saw a brother with that number of posts seeking no more than company whilst in town - indeed myself and 4 or 5 other senior / regulars in those cities would have welcomed him with open arms - even pm'ing him with meeting locations and times and he would have been shown the ropes.

Billy DOES NOT need hand holding - Billy DOES NOT require babysitting - just the lack of response was somewhat surprising.

Still managed to bowl over 17 w.h.o.r.e.s in 5 days - 3.4 w.h.o.r.e.s per day - well down on the average of last visit of 5.1 w.h.o.r.e.s per day - but still - I did need a couple of friends to make that 3 guy / 12 girl fiesta happen - but there was no interest.

Once again - this is NOT a whinge - just expressing my feelings.

If any of you guys are ever in Beijing, Shanghai, Angeles City, Batam just drop Billy a note - we will arrange invaluable assistance for you.

AND - Billy always gives more than he takes - actually met a great guy in 4 x 4 - turns out he was a pilot with a major US carrier - first time in Rio - I gave him some advice from my limited database and I know I have developed a friendship for life.

He is already angling to get a gig to Beijing in November to sample some of the Mongolian delicacies there.

AGAIN - this is not a whinge - enjoy the pics guys.

Bad Boy Billy
10-04-09, 03:23
Billy loves taking pics - so enjoy.

I must add YES some of you guys did consistently offer advice on apartments and the journey to get from Australia to Rio - that was greatly appreciated.

The points I was making above relate solely to period when I was actually in town.

Still a great 5 days - already booked for next June - June 8 to 15 - how is the fare guys - US$1,290 business class Sydney-LAX-Rio and return?

Impossible? Nah - booked and paid for.

Allforrio
10-04-09, 03:37
Crumbling infrastructures, polluted beaches, tirotios that on a weekly basis close the highways to the airport, favelas all over the places, crimes, thefts, abductions, assassinations, unpredictable weathers, pickpocketing, shit on shoes, etc....

Yet the suits in Denmark choose Rio.

Hosting an Olympic event is a privilege and not a right.

Rio did not deserve to host the Olympics.I am very happy Rio will host the games.

Congratulations

Bravo
10-04-09, 21:06
What is a whinge?

Poucolouco
10-04-09, 21:27
What is a whinge?

That's Aussie spelling for whine.

Billy Boy was disappointed but he is not whinging about it. Say it with a nasal twang. :)

Bad Boy Billy
10-04-09, 22:04
What is a whinge?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/whinge

whinge - 2 dictionary results

–verb (used without object), whinged, whing⋅ing. British and Australian Informal. to complain; whine.

Bad Boy Billy
10-04-09, 22:07
Billy Boy was disappointedNot 100% correct my friend.

How could anybody ever be 'disappointed' with a trip to Rio?

Surprised YES - disappointed NO.

Bad Boy Billy
10-04-09, 23:26
Accommodation:

Originally wanted to book this apartment - http://www.rioapartments.com/0-20_aluguel_de_imoveis_conjugado_copacabana/ - US$75 / night - but it was not available for this period. Had this apartment booked - US$90 / night - http://www.rioapartments.com/0-46_aluguel_de_imoveis_conjugado_quarto_e_sala_copacabana/ - but you just can’t give those w.h.o.r.e.s a serious workout with that hard sided bed – so settled on this apartment through Amerioca Tours – Apt 1205 - http://www.amerioca.net/onebedrooms.html - US$100 / night.

Could not recommend Amerioca high enough – Don was superb. He even helped me explain the address to Karlas to help me get the first 2 w.h.o.r.e.s there – and he also got me home from 4 x 4 when I just could not get the taxi driver to understand where I wanted to go – perfect customer service.

Food:

Dinner - Billy was so disappointed to find Kilogram closed for remodeling. I usually eat here most nights – settled for a place opposite which was called Cena I think – same deal – paid on weight – but quality nowhere near as good as Kilogram.

Cena did have an ‘all you can eat’ pizza deal which was cool – they continually bring different pizzas to your table and you can have a slice or 2 of many different varieties for R20 I think – not sure on price – but it was quite reasonable.

Breakfast - Billy ate at Lopes every morning. Morning to Billy in Rio is 11am to midday – Lopes would cook whatever I wanted – cheap also. Great coffee. To get to Lopes from Rua Almirante Goncalves – cross across Avenida N S Copacabana and turn left – walk 2 or 3 blocks – go past Police Station – another block or 2 and it is on your right.

Agencies:

As usual had 1 or 2 girls from Karla / Scortshow every day at 1pm. When I was there 2 years ago there was a girl who answered the phone in Karlas who spoke English – this time no English at all. Don from Amerioca explained the address for first visit – girls brought the book – from there on easy. I got the girls to call Karla and arranged the next day’s delights before they left.

Some of the Karla girls are less than stunning – the pictures in the book are certainly flattering to the girls – but the performance of EVERY girl I had was faultless.

Interesting point here is that 2 days after I returned from Rio Karla's update their web site to incorporate an 'english' version also. May help a bit if you cannot read / speak Port - but pretty useless if those answering phones don't speak english.

Termas:

Luomo’s first day – 2 or 3 stunners – but tailed off quickly IMHO. Had 3 superb girls here over 2 visits – I love this place.

Monte Carlo – really average line-up – really had to struggle to find something suitable – but again service sublime.

Solarium – exactly same deal as Monte Carlo. I am not sure which of these 2 it was but when I visited one all the girls were in kinda sexy street clothes – fucking hated it – had to work doubly hard to check the bodies.

4 x 4 – This was the third time I have been to 4 x 4 – first time I sampled w.h.o.r.e.s there. First visit 3 years ago it was closed for renovations – second visit 2 years ago the guy I went with suffered an asthma attack 5 minutes after we got there – this time no such bad luck.

Arrived at approx 3.30pm – had the first stunner naked before 5 – followed with a second session with a stunning blonde – R210 for an hour in a standard suite both sessions is great value.

Could easily spend all day in 4 x 4.

Centaurus – Did not make it this time – I fucked up the days and Sunday ended up the day I had for Centaurus. YES – many of you will say I missed nothing. I do not agree – 3 previous visits there had clearly yielded the best quality girls I saw in Termas IMHO. YES – cost higher – but I do not go to Rio to penny pinch.

Help – Was in Help every night – YES I know many of you will immediately think this classifies Billy as a ‘retard’. Billy loves being in bars surrounded by w.h.o.r.e.s – Billy loves Help – if only they would not make the drinks so strong – clouds ones judgment.

Seriously did not think overall quality was up to what it was 2 years ago – a small handful of stunners – those asking R400 to 500. Took a girl from here each night at R200 – EVERY one was a stellar performer – but Billy does treat them well.

General – You quickly forget just how good Rio is – it is not until you are actually back on the ground knee deep in w.h.o.r.e.s that you realize this is as close to ‘PARADISE” as life on earth could be. Whilst I have to travel half way across the world – 35+ hours to get there and 40 odd hours to get home – it is still ‘PARADISE” and must not be missed.

Crchico
10-05-09, 00:06
Thanks in advance for the help of you experienced Rio guys! I need to get out of the States over Christmas and have never been to Rio. I've been to other countries at this time and it usually has about a 50% reduction in ladies to play with. Is that the case in Rio too or because of the larger population will I still be able to have a good selection to pick from.

Again, thanks for your input!

Cho 637
10-05-09, 02:50
Good to see you back in the saddle BBB! I feel the same way about Help.

Bad Boy Billy
10-05-09, 03:13
Good to see you back in the saddle BBB! I feel the same way about Help.Have not been out of the saddle mate - just been riding a different pony.

Rio so far from Australia - I have been to Angeles City 24 times in last 3 years - 2 to 4 day stopovers on way to or from China.

Consistently run into Wes, Disco, X Man, Singhop, Saywoow - many of the old UMV gang.

But as good as AC is - nothing compares to Rio - Brazilians are just the BEST w.h.o.r.e.s.

Exec Talent
10-05-09, 03:14
Dinner - Billy was so disappointed to find Kilogram closed for remodeling. I usually eat here most nights – settled for a place opposite which was called Cena I think – same deal – paid on weight – but quality nowhere near as good as Kilogram.

Bob Dole thinks Bad Boy Billy might be his long lost Aussie cousin. That's what Bob Dole thinks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ApPllm1ZfA

Redsox911
10-05-09, 05:16
So far as here it seems slow in the last days, I share something.

This time I got 7 girls from termas, 3 from 4x4, 2 from solarium, 1 from luomo and from montecarlo too.

During my first trip, my favourite terma was solarium, but during this trip both the girls were a... disaster.

However I can say it was my fault, cause with the first one I was in hurry, not much patience to "test" her and she was smarter too. She was one of the few that are older than 30 yo, nice face and smile, but big ass. She was smart as, when we spoke, she seems very friendly, but once in cabine after less than half minute of bbbj wanted to start immediately sex; even FK in cabine was not nice as at the bar. I should understood even cause she was almost the only one girl alone for all the time, neither customers or the other girls went to speak with her....just me LOL.
The second one was a bit drunk and instead to mean more fun in cabine, it turned to make her so lazy I got the feeling she paid me as she wanted daty and only a bit of bbbj.

However despite these 2 girls, all the others were fabulous as you can expect from terma girls.

4x4 for me it is a solid guarantee of GFE, yes it has the little bad point that it get so crowded that it is often hard to find a place where to sit down a while, so I never was able to have quite long and nice conversation with the girl, but once in cabine....you forgot how many hours it took you to get to Rio :)

Luomo and Montecarlo has for me a bit higher quality of girls, even if, obviously, much less choice, but with the good point that you can really relax there, as if you was in normal bar full of girls in bikini, these 2 termas do not have the feeling of sex factory that has 4x4.
To sit down and have nice conversation with the girl, for me it is part of the fun too.

I "regret" I did not see Centaurus, as I know it is very expensive and the rip off terma, but in january I saw there really many beautiful girls, so next trip I will go there and not on sunday as this time ;)

CheersHey Lukasek,

I posted this question back a couple pages but didn't receive a response from you, not sure if you missed or just didn't want to respond? Anyway, what's the name of the girl and which terma does she work at that you took the photo's of?

Thanks!

RS911

The Watcher
10-05-09, 05:37
US$1,290 business class Sydney-LAX-Rio and return?

Impossible? Nah - booked and paid for.

I would appreciate your help in getting that price for business class from the US.

Sprite13
10-05-09, 06:01
Great report and awesome pics BBB!
I also would like more info on how you got that deal for business class.

Cheers.

Sprite13
10-05-09, 06:03
Thanks in advance for the help of you experienced Rio guys! I need to get out of the States over Christmas and have never been to Rio. I've been to other countries at this time and it usually has about a 50% reduction in ladies to play with. Is that the case in Rio too or because of the larger population will I still be able to have a good selection to pick from.

Again, thanks for your input!

You you may see a 50%+ decline in the line up of available girls as most will spend that time with their families. However, you should still be able to get some actions. A word of advise: for Christmas day and New year's day, make sure you arrange something with a girl you've previously been with as on those days, not much hobby wise going on.

Welcome to the Marvelous City, you'll have the time of your life. :)

Bad Boy Billy
10-05-09, 06:22
I would appreciate your help in getting that price for business class from the US.

I also would like more info on how you got that deal for business class. Billy is more than happy to share the info guys but there are a couple of problems involved.

1. You definitely need to OWN or have COMPLETE CONTROL of the company you work for. There are a series of somewhat complicated financial transactions involved - you need to have COMPLETE CONTROL of the finances of a company.

2. Here is the big problem - I will never put this in writing - I need to be sitting beside you and explain it to you step by step. It took me like 6 months to devise this strategy - I will never jeopardise it's potential by putting it out in the public domain. I can get it to work pretty easily here in Australia - I assume same could be acheived in other locations.

Sorry guys - but if we ever sit down over a beer or 3 it's available then.

Eros74
10-05-09, 11:03
...I posted this question back a couple pages but didn't receive a response from you, not sure if you missed...

Yes, I missed, sorry, I guess your posts do not get posted immediately as regular member.

However where is the point to hide their faces, tatoos and so on and then to tell names and places where do they work ? ;)

I do cause I do not want in none way to put girls in troubles.

Rio sometimes is too small, news go too fast, however I have been in only 4 termas, at least you do not stay in Rio only 3 days, you should be able to find her :)

Redsox911
10-05-09, 18:33
Yes, I missed, sorry, I guess your posts do not get posted immediately as regular member.

However where is the point to hide their faces, tatoos and so on and then to tell names and places where do they work ? ;)

I do cause I do not want in none way to put girls in troubles.

Rio sometimes is too small, news go too fast, however I have been in only 4 termas, at least you do not stay in Rio only 3 days, you should be able to find her :)Hi Lukasek,

No, unfortunately my posts are moderated for some reason, not sure how to get around that. As for not naming the gal, I'll be there for 10 days soon so hopefully I'll run into her somewhere.

RS911

Eros74
10-06-09, 00:06
...No, unfortunately my posts are moderated for some reason, not sure how to get around that...

Hi, the reason should be this: "Regular Members are automatically upgraded to Senior Member when they have been a Forum Member for 6 months AND have posted 25 or more reports." ;)

Tiradentes
10-06-09, 03:49
Thanks in advance for the help of you experienced Rio guys! I need to get out of the States over Christmas and have never been to Rio. I've been to other countries at this time and it usually has about a 50% reduction in ladies to play with. Is that the case in Rio too or because of the larger population will I still be able to have a good selection to pick from.

Again, thanks for your input!


The holidays are occuring at the worst dates this year:

X-mas eve falls on a Thursday, and X-mas falls on Friday. As such, no termas from Thursday to Monday.

Same for New year's celebration. No termas from Thursday to Monday.

p.s.: Brazilians take religious holidays very seriously. I actually had a girl telling me she won't hump on Christ day.

Redsox911
10-06-09, 04:56
Hi, the reason should be this: "Regular Members are automatically upgraded to Senior Member when they have been a Forum Member for 6 months AND have posted 25 or more reports." ;)Thanks for the explanation! I appreciate it.

Holandês Voador
10-06-09, 13:57
Guys,

Just a quick question: is it true that Help closed down last august? I read some things about it on the internet, but I couldn't find any confirmation.

Is it true?

Benjoe
10-06-09, 17:07
Solarium – exactly same deal as Monte Carlo. I am not sure which of these 2 it was but when I visited one all the girls were in kinda sexy street clothes – fucking hated it – had to work doubly hard to check the bodies.


I think Friday is evening wear day/night.

Rio Bob
10-06-09, 21:53
Guys,

Just a quick question: is it true that Help closed down last august? I read some things about it on the internet, but I couldn't find any confirmation.

Is it true?

NO, NOT yet

Help is still limping along.

Latest news it will close March 2010.

SlimHoleDrill
10-07-09, 01:20
BBB,

Great posts, keep it up. Just one thing and please take it for what it is -- an observation. You spend a lot of time putting those periods in between the letters to get around the auto checker. It would be easier and nicer to use other words like garotas or even ladies. Everybody would still get it. It's just that some of us considerad them friends with whom were have a business relationship.

Cho 637
10-07-09, 05:30
Guys,

Just a quick question: is it true that Help closed down last august? I read some things about it on the internet, but I couldn't find any confirmation.

Is it true?

That was one day for a private party.

Hughdad
10-07-09, 13:11
BBB,

Great posts, keep it up. Just one thing and please take it for what it is -- an observation. You spend a lot of time putting those periods in between the letters to get around the auto checker. It would be easier and nicer to use other words like garotas or even ladies. Everybody would still get it. It's just that some of us considerad them friends with whom were have a business relationship.Agreed, Billy has provided some terrific posts, info and pics here. Regardless of the terminology used (remember there are guys from different cultures, countries, etc. Participating here). It seems that BBB takes good care of the ladies/w. H. O. R. E. S. He is with and then speaks highly of them. Unlike some others that have posted here that just are looking at being abusive to them. Like you, I like his gung-ho attitude and free-wheeling partying spirit.

Rss910
10-07-09, 18:11
Is there a place to report on dirty girls? Meaning a place to warn others to avoid girls that are known to be dirty? OBVIOUSLY we all take a risk, even with safe practice, but we should all look out for each other right? It just occurred to me, because a friend of mine told me to avoid this beautiful girl named Tiffany (dark skinned, long black hair, eyebrow and tongue piercing, panther tattoo on side of stomach yes she was THAT hot) due to a rep of particularly prolific wart and herp giving. Ring a bell with anyone? I would hate to come home with a string or circle of mushrooms down there.

Member #3439
10-08-09, 03:34
Is there a place to report on dirty girls? Meaning a place to warn others to avoid girls that are known to be dirty? OBVIOUSLY we all take a risk, even with safe practice, but we should all look out for each other right? It just occurred to me, because a friend of mine told me to avoid this beautiful girl named Tiffany (dark skinned, long black hair, eyebrow and tongue piercing, panther tattoo on side of stomach yes she was THAT hot) due to a rep of particularly prolific wart and herp giving. Ring a bell with anyone? I would hate to come home with a string or circle of mushrooms down there.You reported in the right place. Thanks for helping fellow hobbyists to stay clean.

I believe you may be the first person to report an STI in Rio this year. The garotas down there are all virgins, you know, and that's why no one ever reports getting anything. It's just idyllic.

Mr Enternational
10-08-09, 04:05
I think I might have missed something. What is the big stigma about Help? I just talked to some random broad online who lives in Copa. I asked her what she thought about Help Disco. She was quick to shoot it down, saying there are so many drugs and prostitutes there. I asked her if she had ever been and she said no and did not want to. Then I asked her if she had ever been to Paris. She said no. I said so what do you think about Paris? She said that she couldn't tell me because she had never been there. So duhhh. Why is she so quick to have an opinion on once place she has never been but does not even think to have one for another?

Her idea was that there are people just fucking and snorting cocaine in the open air as free as the wind. I told her don't you think if that was the case the police would be all over the place? Any reasonable person who went to Help would not be able to discern that the general population of women there were working (or rather looking for work), and I seriously doubt they would ever see any drugs (at least I haven't in countless visits; but I have been propositioned on one of the side streets). I know several guys who went on their first visit and just thought it was a regular disco. Sure the informed of the population knows that girls go there to pick up guys and later go to their place in exchange for money. But they also know girls find work at Copacabana beach as well. Why aren't they bitching about that and trying to shut that down? There are no illegal activities per se going on at the place so what the fuck?

Dollars
10-08-09, 12:50
Have not been out of the saddle mate - just been riding a different pony.

Rio so far from Australia - I have been to Angeles City 24 times in last 3 years - 2 to 4 day stopovers on way to or from China.

Consistently run into Wes, Disco, X Man, Singhop, Saywoow - many of the old UMV gang.

But as good as AC is - nothing compares to Rio - Brazilians are just the BEST w.h.o.r.e.s.Triple B, this is X-Man of UMV and I was in AC three weeks ago and Wes was there last month. I'm off to Berlin (Artemis) in two weeks and I'll be going back to Rio (my 13th trip this year) first week in Nov.

As always I like how you set the standard by showing the ful pics and not hidng the face (UMV standards).

We all have to find some time to hook up either in Rio or AC. I'll be heading to BKK a lot next year because I miss that place, ditto Singapore but Rio will always be Rio.

You need to try Germany's FKK. You will be surprised as to how fun it can be.

Hughdad
10-08-09, 13:24
For those who want more on the planned build for the Olympics, see:

http://www.philly.com/philly/photos/Brazil_celebrates_2010_selection.html

(slide 55 is a classic! The 2 bodyguards really complete the picture!)

Chris H
10-08-09, 15:14
Any reasonable person who went to Help would not be able to discern that the general population of women there were working (or rather looking for work), and I seriously doubt they would ever see any drugs (at least I haven't in countless visits; but I have been propositioned on one of the side streets). I know several guys who went on their first visit and just thought it was a regular disco. Sure the informed of the population knows that girls go there to pick up guys and later go to their place in exchange for money. But they also know girls find work at Copacabana beach as well. Why aren't they bitching about that and trying to shut that down? There are no illegal activities per se going on at the place so what the fuck?

I have to 2nd this to the fullest!

Sperto
10-08-09, 15:47
Why is she so quick to have an opinion on once place she has never been but does not even think to have one for another?
I've never been to Somalia, but I still have a strong opinion about the place. :) Just joking...

I've never seen any girls at Help TAKING drugs, but I've seen plenty of them high on drugs. What I heard from the girls there is a lot of snorting going on in the womens toilets. I think the majority of the GPs in Copa use some kind of drugs on a more or less regularly basis. Just my opinion.

Closing Help has nothing to do with the visitors using drugs.

Bravo
10-08-09, 17:44
i've never been to somalia, but i still have a strong opinion about the place. :) just joking...

i've never seen any girls at help taking drugs, but i've seen plenty of them high on drugs. what i heard from the girls there is a lot of snorting going on in the womens toilets. i think the majority of the gps in copa use some kind of drugs on a more or less regularly basis. just my opinion.

closing help has nothing to do with the visitors using drugs.

do you know if they have security in the women's bathroom, to try and stem the drug use? i know the mens room attendant will frequently walk up and down and peer over the door to make sure you are not using drugs in the bathroom.

Sperto
10-08-09, 17:59
do you know if they have security in the women's bathroom, to try and stem the drug use? i know the mens room attendant will frequently walk up and down and peer over the door to make sure you are not using drugs in the bathroom.
no security, only an attendant.
imagine the stories this attendant could tell. she must have seen and heard a lot of funny stories, and also seen quite a few ugly catfights.

Eros74
10-08-09, 18:23
...i know the mens room attendant will frequently walk up and down and peer over the door to make sure you are not using drugs in the bathroom.

correct....think that in february, i stayed a bit too long time inside the bathroom cause i took out the money i hide in my socks and i was counting them and put some in wallet and some in front pockets when the bodyguard looked over the door with a angry face that suddenly changed in a smile when he saw i was not there taking some drugs.

it is "funny" cause they control so well the men's bathroom when i have the feeling the ones who uses drugs are especially gdp and not gringos.

Bad Boy Billy
10-08-09, 22:53
Triple B, this is X-Man of UMVGreat to hear from you again mate - damn shame you were not in Rio when I was there - I am desperate to try Vila Mimosa.

Am off to Changping in China on Oct 16 - 2 nights hunting 'China Dolls'.

There is a place in Changping called the 'catacombs', the mafia recruit 18 to 20yo from the farms to work on contract - the girls live, eat and shit in a room 5ft x 5ft - you do them on site for US$5 - cannot wait to try it - they tell me it makes Vila Mimosa look and smell like the Marriott.

Off to AC for 4 nights after China - Disco was going to join me - Singhop will be there - Saywoow too maybe.

How the fuck do you get to Rio 13 times? Fuck man that is sensational - I thought I was doing a great job to get to China 8 times so far this year and Angeles City 6 times.

I have booked my next Rio trip - June 8 to 15, 2010 - I swapped Singhop 1 x business class Melbourne-LAX-RIO for 3 business class flights Sydney-Sing-Manila.

Stick the dates in your calendar - don't be afraid to email me.

Aint that just the truest statement - NO PLACE LIKE RIO - NO W.H.O.R.E.S on the planet like Brazilian w.h.o.r.e.s

Sperto
10-09-09, 06:07
Am off to Changping in China on Oct 16 - 2 nights hunting 'China Dolls'.
There is a place in Changping called the 'catacombs', the mafia recruit 18 to 20yo from the farms to work on contract - the girls live, eat and shit in a room 5ft x 5ft - you do them on site for US$5 - cannot wait to try it - they tell me it makes Vila Mimosa look and smell like the Marriott.
I like sleazy places like VM, but this place the "catacombs" only sounds disgusting. It would propably be illegal in Brazil. I guess they would consider it to be forcing girls to become sexslaves under miserable conditions.

NO PLACE LIKE RIO - NO W.H.O.R.E.S on the planet like Brazilian w.h.o.r.e.s
I know you enjoy the word wh*re very much, but your reports would be more enjoyable if you could change it something more decent (GP, GDP, garota de programa).

You should also respect Jacksons rules: "The words "Whor*e", "*****" and "****" are not allowed because these words are commonly used to denigrate women, and that's not what this website is all about."

Eros74
10-09-09, 09:30
....
I know you enjoy the word wh*re very much, but your reports would be more enjoyable if you could change it something more decent (GP, GDP, garota de programa).

You should also respect Jacksons rules: "The words "Whor*e", "*****" and "****" are not allowed because these words are commonly used to denigrate women, and that's not what this website is all about."


A great quote to you Sperto !!!

The first time I saw he used this word, I said ok, he just does not get it, then it started to be boring, now I am happy I did not PM him to meet for a beer and my buddy even more than me LOL.

After read his bullshit about airfare strategy, much more than happy....

Using this word so often to call the pros, and almost in every sentence it shows how zero respect he has for the girls.....and btw it is not our business what they do with their lifes so far as it exists free choice.

Moreover I am sure more many GDP are much better human being than "some" mongers.

And yes, for me it is a big luck he lives 35 hours from Rio LOOOOL :) but I am happy for him he developed scientific quantum rocket strategy to get business class for couple of bucks and indeed he is a "big" heart guy that shares this strategy with everybody....will PM to meet him in june, so he will feel not so sad as this time when nobody cares to meet him :)) ....poor baby....

Respect and do not denigrate the others, especially GDP that gave you exactly what you wanted....no need to say more...

Trafukin
10-10-09, 17:23
Is this terma still open? How far is this from Copa and what are the prices?

How many gordas?

SlimHoleDrill
10-10-09, 19:04
I've never been to Somalia, but I still have a strong opinion about the place. :) Just joking...

I've never seen any girls at Help TAKING drugs, but I've seen plenty of them high on drugs. What I heard from the girls there is a lot of snorting going on in the womens toilets. I think the majority of the GPs in Copa use some kind of drugs on a more or less regularly basis. Just my opinion.

Closing Help has nothing to do with the visitors using drugs.
Yeah, I've never seen anything overt except the time I saw them throw a dude out of MC for lighting up some weed in a room.

But I have noticed a lot of girls with the sniffles. All year round. So I have always suspected something was going on in the restrooms. Of course, this is not why they are closing Help. That has been very well documented in O Globo.

Walker
10-10-09, 23:26
I know you enjoy the word wh*re very much, but your reports would be more enjoyable if you could change it something more decent (GP, GDP, garota de programa).

You should also respect Jacksons rules: "The words "Whor*e", "*****" and "****" are not allowed because these words are commonly used to denigrate women, and that's not what this website is all about."I agree with the above in so far that I wouldn't call it disrespect but childish and immature in this case. Nevertheless I observe here regularly pejorative descriptions of the women who offer us their services, mostly by the same repetitive offenders. This behaviour harms the business which can not flourish without a minimum of social tolerance.

WaynesWorld
10-11-09, 01:19
Fyi

There is a Tiffany at Monte Carlo that has been there for 5 days and she looks very similiar to a Tiffany at Love Story in Sao Paulo. Look at post 321 in Sao Paulo Reports. Does anyone know if her tattoo is of a Panther? If so she is the same Tiffany from Sao Paulo who may have been transmitting HPV and Herpes to a lot of customers.

Bad Boy Billy
10-11-09, 04:35
Thanks to all you guys who took the time to post your interesting, insightful and constructive responses to Billy’s post below.

The one thing that Billy loves about life the most is that we are all DIFFERENT – we have different wants and desires – we all like and pursue different things in life – we all ‘march to the beat of a different drum’ – it is this variety that makes up ‘the rich tapestry of life’.

Please indulge Billy for a moment or two as I do a bit of ‘housekeeping’.


BBB……..Great posts, keep it up………Just one thing and please take it for what it is -- an observation. You spend a lot of time putting those periods in between the letters to get around the auto checker. It would be easier and nicer to use other words like garotas or even ladies. Everybody would still get it. It's just that some of us considered them friends with whom were have a business relationship.

I know you enjoy the word wh*re very much, but your reports would be more enjoyable if you could change it something more decent (GP, GDP, garota de programa).........You should also respect Jacksons rules: "The words "Whor*e", "*****" and "****" are not allowed because these words are commonly used to denigrate women, and that's not what this website is all about."

A great quote to you Sperto !!!........The first time I saw he used this word, I said ok, he just does not get it, then it started to be boring,……..Using this word so often to call the pros, and almost in every sentence it shows how zero respect he has for the girls.....and btw it is not our business what they do with their life’s so far as it exists free choice.SlimHoleDrill, Sperto, Lukasek – I was not aware of the sensitivity in this thread to the usage of the term w.h.o.r.e.s as I did. It will never be Billy’s intention or desire to cause concern, angst or distress to any forum reader.

Indeed yesterday I contacted the site administrators to clarify the usage of this term – please see below:


I would like clarification on the Administrators view on the usage of the term w.h.o.r.e when talking about / descibing multiple prostitutes in general?

Is this term considered offensive?

Is the usage of this term permissible / discouraged?

Hi,

"w.h.o.r.e" is a word that is often used to degrade women.

I would prefer that members use the term "working girl" or "Prostitute", or simply "girl".

Thanks,

Jackson
It is also never Billy’s intention to post any material that is in breach of site guidelines. If I have offended you guys please accept my apologies

now I am happy I did not PM him to meet for a beer and my buddy even more than me LOL……….. will PM to meet him in June, so he will feel not so sad as this time when nobody cares to meet him :)) ....poor baby.... Lukasek – do I detect a note of sarcasm in your response of did you genuinely shed a tear that we did not meet?

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and go with the notion that you were genuinely upset that we did not meet. No problems mate – keep in touch – I am sure our paths will cross some day – I am equally sure we will end up great friends after we sit and chat over a beer or two.

As for your friend – well please pass on to him that Billy will try to not lose too much sleep tonight knowing that HE did not want to meet me.
After read his bullshit about airfare strategy, much more than happy....Now Lukasek – how should I read this response? Was it a measured, rational, intelligent response? Or was it borne out of jealousy, ignorance and naivety?

I will go with the former – I will grant you that what I provided in information regarding my airfare strategy might indeed lead some people to doubt that it could ever be achievable.

Billy put this information on the table and then said I will not go further – OK then I guess I do owe it to those reading to provide SOME information which might allow a ‘reasonable’ man to decide on its possible ‘workability’ or otherwise.

Again – I WILL NOT spell this out chapter and verse – rather you guys reading this and that POSSIBLY could make this work for yourselves will need to put your thinking caps on and fill in the blanks. Trust me – Billy is no rocket scientist – so if I can get to work many others will be able to do the same.

As I previously stated – you need to have own your own company / entity OR have complete financial control over a company / entity.

You need a credit card with a HIGH ‘rewards points’ feature built in.

You need to have the ability to continually roll over funds through your credit card into a bank account and rotate those funds around in a circle to re-process on an ongoing basis. The trick here is to minimise the ‘gap’ between % 'earn' in rewards points terms and % ‘cost’ in merchant facility terms.

If you are lost by now – then forget it – it isn’t going to work for you.

That’s about all I will say – go do the maths – do your research – it does work.

2 critical things to keep in mind – 1. Consult your accountant or taxation advisor – no point in earning a shit load of free flights then having the tax man bite you on the arse on the other end 2. Be prepared to have to deal with the back room boys from your credit card company and merchant facility provider – they will almost definitely require you substantiate the ‘bona fides’ of the transactions.

Once again thanks guys for bearing with me in addressing these matters – good hunting out there – and treat the girls well

Jan 156
10-11-09, 09:21
BBB - how about just using the first person while you're doing the makeover?

Sperto
10-11-09, 09:49
BBB - how about just using the first person while you're doing the makeover?
Overcourse:
Elsa Ronningstam, associate clinical professor of psychology at Harvard Medical School and author of Identifying and Understanding the Narcissistic Personality: Referring to yourself in the third person creates distance between "I" and "he." So if you have an exaggerated view of how great you are, you could be using this distance to make yourself even bigger. Or, if you've achieved major success suddenly, using the third person could be a way to adjust to the bigger role that's been assigned to you. It's a way to enlarge yourself to fit that role.

Exec Talent
10-11-09, 15:23
BBB - how about just using the first person while you're doing the makeover?
Bob Dole thinks Bad Boy Billy should use the first person. That's what Bob Dole thinks.

After seeing him hawking Viagra, I assumed that Bob Dole was experiencing erections lasting more than four hours. Maybe the same can be said of Bad Boy Billy.

Jamaicanceo
10-11-09, 18:32
Fyi

There is a Tiffany at Monte Carlo that has been there for 5 days and she looks very similiar to a Tiffany at Love Story in Sao Paulo. Look at post 321 in Sao Paulo Reports. Does anyone know if her tattoo is of a Panther? If so she is the same Tiffany from Sao Paulo who may have been transmitting HPV and Herpes to a lot of customers.How do you know she's been spreading HPV Herpes to A LOT of customers? Did she give you Herpes or you angry at her?

Eros74
10-11-09, 20:31
Overcourse:
Elsa Ronningstam, associate clinical professor of psychology at Harvard Medical School and author of Identifying and Understanding the Narcissistic Personality: Referring to yourself in the third person creates distance between "I" and "he." So if you have an exaggerated view of how great you are, you could be using this distance to make yourself even bigger. Or, if you've achieved major success suddenly, using the third person could be a way to adjust to the bigger role that's been assigned to you. It's a way to enlarge yourself to fit that role.

Great and great !!!!

No doubt he is a narcissist. I am sure that if he doesn't understand that the term "w***e" is offensive and needs to contact Jackson to realize it, maybe somebody will have to explain to him the meaning of narcissist....It's a never ending story I guess...

Just one example of what narcissistic person does and thinks it is a common thing that everybody else does:


...
If you see any of the attached buttons around you will know Billy is / was close by - please say 'gday mate'.


Another example about what a great super monger he "thinks" he is:


...- I do not need 'hand holding' .....
Billy DOES NOT need hand holding - Billy DOES NOT require babysitting

BUT:


Don was superb... and he also got me home from 4 x 4 when I just could not get the taxi driver to understand where I wanted to go

Congratulations bad boy billy, I guess you are the first one here not able to get home alone from 4x4.

Even a normal common tourist knows that the first and most important thing to do once you arrive at your apt or hotel, is..... to know the street and the number where you are. Bad boy billy.....I'll share with you a secret.....it is called the address....do you know it ? You do not....

It is easy go out, but first you have to be sure you are able to come back by yourself if it is true you do not need babysitter.....I know it is so obvious, but not for everybody....

And it really does not matter if you do not know portuguese and have bad short term memory, just write the street and the number on a piece of paper, show it to EVERY taxi driver and you will be able to get home..... alone !

Unbelievable ? Yes, sometimes a piece of paper for somebody does wonders....

bbb enjoy China, where, considering how difficult the language is there compared to portuguese, you will need the owner of your apt to come bring you home every night. But with the money you save with your airfare ticket strategy, surely you can afford it.

Bad Boy Billy
10-11-09, 21:59
Congratulations bad boy billy, I guess you are the first one here not able to get home alone from 4x4.

Even a normal common tourist knows that the first and most important thing to do once you arrive at your apt or hotel, is..... to know the street and the number where you are. Bad boy billy.....I'll share with you a secret.....it is called the address....do you know it ? You do not....

It is easy go out, but first you have to be sure you are able to come back by yourself if it is true you do not need babysitter.....I know it is so obvious, but not for everybody....

And it really does not matter if you do not know portuguese and have bad short term memory, just write the street and the number on a piece of paper, show it to EVERY taxi driver and you will be able to get home..... alone !

Unbelievable ? Yes, sometimes a piece of paper for somebody does wonders....
Once again thank you Luka my boy for your sound advice.

Please see picture attached.

Lucky for Billy that you are such a man of the world and possess far greater knowledge / experience than I do - I am sure the assistance you are now willingly supplying will stand me in good stead in the future..

Damn shame that the taxi driver that day did not know where Rua Almirante Gobcalves actually was - but then again if he did you and I would not be continuing with our open, enjoyable and informative discussions.

Poucolouco
10-11-09, 22:55
Once again thank you Luka ...
Damn shame that the taxi driver that day did not know where Rua Almirante Gobcalves actually was ..

Rua Almirante Goncalves is a one-block long street blocked on the west end by a park and exiting on Ave Atlantica. It can only be accessed from Rua Aires Saldana. Because of this obscurity, many taxistas are unfamiliar with Rua Almirante Goncalves. Ironically many taxistas know how to get to Debret Hotel but they do not know the name of this little street where it is located.

Bad Boy Billy
10-11-09, 23:07
Rua Almirante Gobcalves is a one-block long street blocked on the west end by a park and exiting on Ave Atlantica. It can only be accessed from Rua Aires Saldana. Because of this obscurity, many taxistas are unfamiliar with Rua Almirante Gobcalves. Ironically many taxistas know how to get to Debret Hotel but they do not know the name of this little street where it is located.
PL kinda funny twist to this story.

I came out of 4 x 4 about 9pm and it was pouring rain - the road outside 4 x 4 was actually 3 to 4 inches deep with water - no taxis in sight - I waited in the rain for 3 or 4 minutes before running out to the main road to right of 4 x 4 entrance.

I grabbed a taxi and showed him the address. He spoke no english - me no Port - and he just shrugged his shoulders.

I called Don and he tried to explain the address - then I heard the taxi driver say oh ALCAZAR - oh ALCAZAR - he knew where Alcazar Restaurant was but had no idea of the street name. Had it not been for the downpour I guess I would have just kept grabbing different taxis til a driver recognised the address - but that rain sure put a 'dampener' on that plan.

From then on I tried that strategy on several taxi drivers - didn't show them the address just repeated ALCAZAR - ALCAZAR - most took me straight there.

Bad Boy Billy
10-12-09, 03:45
for the record – billy is old, fat and seriously ugly – i need all the help i can get to find suitable willing ‘bed partners’.

now i realize i am not the first person on earth to adopt this strategy – but whenever i go a’huntin ‘ladies of the night’ i always go armed with a shit load of ‘gifts for the girls’.

pics fiesta gift1 and fiesta gift2 show the gifts we gave to our fiesta friends’ a couple of years ago:
1. fake designer sunglasses from china – dior, chanel, gucci, dolce & gabana – all these brands adored by the girls
2. genuine ‘victoria secret’ panties from usa
3. tiny ‘koalas’ from australia
the fake sunglasses i buy in the markets in beijing / shanghai for us$3 to 4 each. the victoria secret panties i think cost us$5 each – not 100% sure – my mate mel sourced them – the tiny little koalas cost like us$.20 each.

this time i gave every girl i sessioned with a pair of fake sunglasses - see pic gifts 3 us$3 to 4 each - and t-shirt from australia – see pic gifts 4 – us$4 each.

i had 2 girls from karla first day i arrived – gave them their gifts after the session – they loved them. by the time the next karla girl arrived next day she knew all about the gifts and was asking for her gift before we even started.

in the termas i always gave the girls their gifts in the boite after the session – you can imagine the interest from all the other girls as my recent ‘horizontal tango partner’ was trying on her new sunnies and t-shirt in the bar and checking herself out for like 10 to 15 mins.

helpeee girls as we all know too talk very much between themselves – after your first girl gets back to her friends and associates to report her new acquisitions it’s amazing how many new friends you yourself will acquire.

Bravo
10-12-09, 04:42
One problem when it comes to buying the girls pantys, they are HUGE compared to the underwear they normally wear. Even the VS thongs are really big and most of the girls just laughed when I gave them as present.

Bad Boy Billy
10-12-09, 04:49
One problem when it comes to buying the girls pantys, they are HUGE compared to the underwear they normally wear. Even the VS thongs are really big and most of the girls just laughed when I gave them as present.I do not really remember whether that was an issue or not.

I do know I headed off with 20 Extra Small and 20 Small T-Shirts - the Extra Small fitted perfectly whilst the girls could 'swim' in the Small sized ones - it floored me.

Thats the beauty of the fake designer sunglasses - one size fits all.

Bravo
10-12-09, 09:02
I heard Luana worked at Black and white that's the only reason I am intersted in going. I may give it a try but will be PISSED if she's not working there.


She said on Hotside that she doesnt work there anymore. However that may have been a business maneuver, so guys will pay her the 300R for two hours she is asking for as an escort, instead of going to B&W and fucking her for only 90R.


Best to try and get a phone number to black & WHite and calling first, see if she is working that day.

Jan 156
10-12-09, 13:13
I believe the taxi drivers know all the streets they just play el stupidito.
While that well might happen (or they'll get to the area and drive about till you say stop) with some drivers, it's also easy to believe you're being taken advantage of just cos they're navigating a one-way system - as in many countries. I usually stay in a small street myself and would get into the habit of saying it is near (perto) such-and-such. Or have it written down - though basics like, left, right, here, stop, slow, will make you feel much more in control when using a taxi. I'm not fluent in some conversational areas, but I can switch from dumb friendly gringo to giving rapid, fluent directions to get to my apto, which helps dispel ideas of taking me for a further 'ride'. Especially to the garota sitting next me too. For journeys within Copa, it is easy to get to know the streets, routes, and that no journey at night should be over 10R, even if you're generous enough to agree it without meter.

Hughdad
10-12-09, 13:22
For some reason I could not respond directly to his long post. But in it he provides an overview to his travel miles plan which seems to involve making charges on his credit cards through his company's merchant cc accounts to get credit for miles. Then I suspect his company would pay off the card(s) and/or issue refunds. He warns:

"2 critical things to keep in mind – 1. Consult your accountant or taxation advisor – no point in earning a shit load of free flights then having the tax man bite you on the arse on the other end 2. Be prepared to have to deal with the back room boys from your credit card company and merchant facility provider – they will almost definitely require you substantiate the ‘bona fides’ of the transactions."

I will only say that if you plan on pursuing this plan, adhere to his warnings.

Java Man
10-12-09, 16:11
Termas Black and White, Av. Paris, 634 - Bonsucesso, Rio de Janeiro, RJ
Brazil, 21041-020, (21) 2280-7499
Entrada: R$ 10,00 (consumação)
30 minutos: R$60,00
60 minutos: R$90,0

I found the above info using Google advance search, (search in Portuguese Language.) It will take you to a competing forum. Use Google maps to locate the address in Rio. (It's surrounded by Favelas!)
Somewhat difficult finding the above info, as the address is not listed in Gpguia nor BitchMaps, and regular Google search did not find it.

BTW, Luana has 2 termas B&W reviews at GPGuia. Most recent is from 05, 2009. Nao for anal per the reviews.

Mimzy
10-12-09, 18:45
for the record – billy is old, fat and seriously ugly – i need all the help i can get to find suitable willing ‘bed partners’.

now i realize i am not the first person on earth to adopt this strategy – but whenever i go a’huntin ‘ladies of the night’ i always go armed with a shit load of ‘gifts for the girls’.

pics fiesta gift1 and fiesta gift2 show the gifts we gave to our fiesta friends’ a couple of years ago:
1. fake designer sunglasses from china – dior, chanel, gucci, dolce & gabana – all these brands adored by the girls
2. genuine ‘victoria secret’ panties from usa
3. tiny ‘koalas’ from australia
the fake sunglasses i buy in the markets in beijing / shanghai for us$3 to 4 each. the victoria secret panties i think cost us$5 each – not 100% sure – my mate mel sourced them – the tiny little koalas cost like us$.20 each.

this time i gave every girl i sessioned with a pair of fake sunglasses - see pic gifts 3 us$3 to 4 each - and t-shirt from australia – see pic gifts 4 – us$4 each.

i had 2 girls from karla first day i arrived – gave them their gifts after the session – they loved them. by the time the next karla girl arrived next day she knew all about the gifts and was asking for her gift before we even started.

in the termas i always gave the girls their gifts in the boite after the session – you can imagine the interest from all the other girls as my recent ‘horizontal tango partner’ was trying on her new sunnies and t-shirt in the bar and checking herself out for like 10 to 15 mins.

helpeee girls as we all know too talk very much between themselves – after your first girl gets back to her friends and associates to report her new acquisitions it’s amazing how many new friends you yourself will acquire.what a great idea.

i will be doing this on my next trip.

thanks bad boy billy.

Eros74
10-12-09, 19:35
....I usually stay in a small street myself and would get into the habit of saying it is near (perto) such-and-such....

Christopherd, that's what only a wise person can do.....

bad boy billy was pretending a taxi driver knows all the little streets of a city of 9 million inhabitants cause he need babysitter bringing him in front of the building of her apt, even better if in front of the door, possible at the right floor too...LOL

He wrote this:

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy...
Damn shame that the taxi driver that day did not know where Rua Almirante Gobcalves actually was....[/QUOTE]

I just told him one word, "Help", cause what bad boy billy did not realize is that Rua Almirante Goncalves is far less than 2 minutes from Help. ( he wrote is old, so maybe 3 minutes instead of 2).

Yes damn shame LOL

P.S. actually there is another option, 4x4 to metro stop uruguaiana, less than 1 euro and you are out of cantagalo stop, down along miguel lemos until one street before avenida, aires saldanha, where you get to right and that's all....yes this is an advanced tecnique only for more experienced mongers who are able to buy and read a map of copacabana or to use google maps....

Hughdad
10-12-09, 22:03
This should end the debate.

Bad Boy Billy
10-12-09, 22:29
Christopherd, that's what only a wise person can do.....I just told him one word, "Help", cause what bad boy billy did not realize is that Rua Almirante Goncalves is far less than 2 minutes from Help.Exactly Luka my friend.

Thats why I need your help.

Why don't we team up - imagine the lethal combination we would make - your brains and my looks - we would make Batman and Robin look like rank amateurs.

Bad Boy Billy
10-12-09, 22:53
Well if the Rio girls wanna have fun - who am I to stand in their way?

Bad Boy Billy
10-12-09, 22:58
Inflation in Brazil IS rampant.

Took this girl from Help 2 years ago - R200 all night. She told me she was a student at uni - but no idea what she was studying.

She was a fabulous performer - limited english - we got on exceptionally well - I loved this girl.

I kept in touch - regularly called her - emailed her - even sent her a small gift for XMAS last year.

Return to Rio this trip - she wants R400 for 2 hours and just would not budge. I assume she stioll 'loves' me - so I guess that is just an indication of the Brazilian inflation rate.

Trafukin
10-12-09, 23:35
She said on Hotside that she doesnt work there anymore. However that may have been a business maneuver, so guys will pay her the 300R for two hours she is asking for as an escort, instead of going to B&W and fucking her for only 90R.

Best to try and get a phone number to black & WHite and calling first, see if she is working that day.Does she go by another name on hotside? I don't see her on there.

Eros74
10-12-09, 23:48
...
Thats why I need your help....

Billy you are obviously joking me right now, you are ironical, thanks for make me smile. We both know you do not need help at all, maybe Help LOL

Seriously Australia is a country always interested me, despite the girls I am sure it offers really a lot to see and visit. It is in my plan to visit A. in my future when I will get retired especially if together one devushka or garota ;)

In only 2 years from 200 reais all night to 400 reais 2 hours it is so fucking huge difference !!! ( even more considering the worst change usd/euro VS reais ).

This is a great example about how was great Rio just couple of years ago in comparison to now.

Not to mention, the fact you was all the time in contact with her, + present for Xmas, it should gave enough good chance to get better and not worst price.

Amazing how GDP they get ruined in a while by money.

Thanks for sharing info and photos.

Trafukin
10-13-09, 00:02
Termas Black and White, Av. Paris, 634 - Bonsucesso, Rio de Janeiro, RJ
Brazil, 21041-020, (21) 2280-7499
Entrada: R$ 10,00 (consumação)
30 minutos: R$60,00
60 minutos: R$90,0

I found the above info using Google advance search, (search in Portuguese Language.) It will take you to a competing forum. Use Google maps to locate the address in Rio. (It's surrounded by Favelas!)

Somewhat difficult finding the above info, as the address is not listed in Gpguia nor BitchMaps, and regular Google search did not find it.

BTW, Luana has 2 termas B&W reviews at GPGuia. Most recent is from 05, 2009. Nao for anal per the reviews.Thanks for the info!

Euro100
10-13-09, 00:45
The closer I get to leaving Rio, the crazier I tend to get, trying to get one last adventure in. I have promised Tina to see her at L’uomo at 4:30, and she wants to pick some L’uomo girls for me. Since this is a Saturday afternoon and all of the downtown options are closed, L’uomo is happening in a major way now, with about 20 guys and 30 girls crammed into the boite. I meet a first-timer in the shower area, and I fill him in on my favorite way to proceed at L’uomo.

I take my seat next to Tina on the couch in the back corner, massage her sore upper thighs to relief some of the pain she still feels. (No bruising visible, though …). I must say I am getting a stiffie doing this. I consider boning her. But even though I am a safado, I feel that I should not do this to my buddy Rob. Tina waves over a couple of girls, and they climb all over me, kiss, grope, massage my wood, and drink with me. Oh yeah, baby! While these girls are on top of me, I occasionally reach over to play a bit with Tina’s legs, which she seems to find just as much a turn-on as I do. Just compare this setup in your mind to what you get in a typical US strip club, where you have to put down a quite a few c-notes to get anywhere near the same time with the girls, but where the contact is just not really there. What a great great bargain L’uomo is!

Jamile has made the best impression on me. She has an incredibly beautiful pair of natural headlights, which she is very proud of. Since she shows me all of her assets on sofa and lets me get a feel between her legs, too, I am ready. At 6 pm I hand over my key, and we head for 40 minutes of bliss. Jamile tells me that she came twice, and I believe it.

Now I really need to leave for the airport, because it’s 7 pm. After a quick shower, I make a last round through the boite, say goodbye to some of the fellows and many of the girls (with beijos/DFK and bunda-grinding and …). Ahh, but it’s time to go. I go to the hotel and pick up my luggage and get a taxi. As I get to the check in for the flight to the US, I say to myself “how about one more day”. I change my flight to the next night, grab my bags, head back to the hotel, get my room for one more night, and walk across the street to L’uomo.

The girl at the entrance recognizes me, and I do not have to pay the entrance fee again. It takes me literally less than a minute to change back into the robe, and I am in the boite again. It is just a little after 9 pm, and several of the guys I hung with earlier are still there. They whoop and holler, and several girls come running over, laughing and screaming. The song “I got a feeling (that tonight’s gonna be a good night…)” from the Black Eyed Peas is playing as one of those heavy-beat dance remixes, and I know that I made the right decision to stay for one more. When L’uomo is good it is, for me at least, the best place in the world; and tonight it is very good. Just the right mix of guys and girls: Enough men to keep the girls at constant attention, but not so many guys that it turns into a sausage-fest.

At 11 I head to the cabina for one more battle with Jamile. We only booked a small room for 40 minutes, but as we pass the door of the super-suite, Tina comes out and waves us in. She and Rob and another girl are in there and just getting ready. OK, let’s join that party. First, Jamile and I just stand against the wall, Rob and the third girl (sorry, never got introduced by name) are on the giant round bed, and he is eating her out as she sits on his face, Tina is on the phone ordering drinks. Then Jamile and I move onto the bed, too, and we really get into each other. While she is on top of me, I barely register a lot of commotion, sharp words in Portuguese, the drink tray spilling. I notice, though, that the third girl is now gone from the room, and Tina and Rob are moving into the suite bathroom, continuing their argument. They then leave, and we have the suite to ourselves. It’s actually a really good first pop, and she comes twice as well, the second time happens way after I am done already and somewhat limp inside her, but the drawback is that we have lost the condom inside her. This week sure turned out to be not exactly a safe-sex visit to Rio!

We clean up in the shower and have time enough for one more session before the knock on the door comes and the hour is over. Jamile cannot find another condom (they have vanished, together with my bathrobe as the others exited). So Jamile decides to reuse the one we just fished out of her. I have a hard time not laughing, but it makes her feel better; so why not. What exactly this would prevent now, who knows. We agree to meet in the boite after the shower, but then the boite is already closed. I see Ingrid is still hanging around and send her (yes, she is a sweetheart and does this kind of thing for me. Did I mention I love her?) into the girls' changing room to ask Jamile to meet me “after hours”. Since this part is non-programa, I follow my usual custom and do not report on it. BTW, one of my new L’uomo buddies, a first-timer from Holland, who I gave my entire playbook on how to pull the after hour take home, also met up with his girl downstairs. I seem to be no isolated case.

that's all for this one - now back to the usual bickering
euro

Euro100
10-13-09, 00:46
Friday. Around 6 I hopped on the metro got off at the next exit and went to Cervantes for an out-of-this-world delicious steak sandwich with cheese and pineapple. Ate it standing at the counter, washed it down with draft beer, and got out for under 20R. Christopherd showed me this place, and now its one of my favorites. Back onto the metro an on to Uruguaiana station.

I had walked by 502 Alfandega on the day before and wanted to reacquaint myself. So I do my usual metro ride again, but stop at the last doorway on the right side of Alfandega before it runs into Rio Branco. There is no sign on the building, but the door is open and shows the stairs lit with little Xmas light that leads up. Entrance is 20R, but counts towards your drinks. You get a plastic card with your number on it, and off you go (fully clothed, btw) into the boite. There are only 20 girls or so, several of them below my threshold (not judging, just stating what goes on in my mind), but three nice candidates. For me the face is the most important body part of a girl, and I have to be physically attracted to the face to select somebody. 502 is not exactly conducive to face recognition, because the boite is such a dark tunnel. But I just park myself a couple of feet in front of the bar, with my back to it. The bar illuminates the first 10 – 15 feet sufficiently that you can see what you are getting into.

Even though I try to blend in, the girls smell the gringo in me right away. Susa, one of the girls I had smiled at because she was in my top three, comes over to me and simply asks “do you want sexo”. (Yes, even here the girls speak enough rudimentary English to get the transaction done!) Hmmm, that’s a little too uncomplicated for me; so I say no, but I smile promisingly to her. She tries a little more sophisticated sales pitch and DFKs the hell out of me. “Do you want a Skol”; “Sim”. As we get a little more friendly, she asks me if she can have a Red Bull with her beer. Hmmm. OK. Mixing these sounds disgusting to me. But I am not the judgmental kind. We go to a room. I have options of 20, 40, or 60 minutes. 20 minutes is enough for what I have in mind. 90R. (Which is quite a bit higher than what I remembered, but OK, still a bargain in comparison.) Even the 20-minute cabina comes with a shower and a big bed. BTW, when I check out my 4 Skols, 1 Red Bull and the cover fee together cost me 36R. In other words, total damage for this little expedition is only 132R, if I count the two subway fares. So 502 remains a decent option for bargain shoppers, for whom VM is just too dirty.

Around 9 I head back to Siquiera Compos, because I agree with “Rob” to meet there. He wants to introduce me to “Tina”. But when I get there, no trace of him. Of course, I really want to meet Tina; what Rob has told me sound very intriguing. Not here, either. I ask Melina to call her friend Tina and get me Rob’s number. Rob agrees to come over, but Tina will stay at his place, because she has bruised her legs taking a fall.

From 10 to 11 or so on that Friday evening I am the only guy in the boite, and 25 girls are watching me more to see if I pick her. That’s a lot of pressure on a guy! :D I do a lot of drinking and kissing and groping with several of my amigas, but do not commit. Rob and I leave for Veranda Help. He calls Tina, and she comes down from the apartment (which is very close) to meet with us. She limps, but is happy to hang and chat with us. Her plan is to act as my gdp procurement agent. We drink a few rounds, decide to go to Balcony. A few more rounds, but the pickings are slim. Tina orders tequila, because she says that girls look better with tequila in one’s blood. We have a great time talking shit, though, and by the time we decide to grab a cab, it is almost 5 am. I have gotten pretty hammered trying to drink the women present at Balcony beautiful, and I must say that I am reasonably proud of myself when I wake up the next morning withOUT some multiple-tequila enhanced beauty next to me.

Euro100
10-13-09, 00:47
on the second day i hop on the metro, get off at uruguaiana station, and waddle through the rain to 4*4. by the time i get there, it is 7 pm, and the place is its usual chaotic mix of unbelievably loud dance re-mixes, drunken horniness, and selling and buying of copulation urges. i love this place just as much as l’uomo, but for entirely different reasons. little tidbits of new info: the keys now have tags with barcodes, and all drink purchases are logged through barcode readers. (now more getting hit on for a few reais of tips, either.) upstairs lounge: closed!

so i drift through this raunchy debauchery. quality by quantity, i seem to remember someone in this forum once stated. exactly right! i allow a few of the girls to make eye contact, touch, bunda grind. many of the girls are very attractive, but since last night at l’uomo took the initial pressure off, nothing that i see overwhelms me right away. i take my time, watch a few girls strip. then a girl gets onto the dance floor part and strips, … because it is her turn. the dj urges her on in his usual over-the-top nasty way, and she is clearly uncomfortable, probably because it is her first time. guys, i am not making this up, but out of nowhere this angelic vision of a girl appears next to the dance floor. she is blond, has a small well-proportioned frames, perfect teeth, and sparkling eyes. and she is wearing this pink satin ensemble of a short negligee and a (very tiny) slip. she seems to glow. ok, she stood right under a floodlight, but still, the effect is there. she smiles at the girl on the dance floor, and i am hopelessly in love. (yeah, yeah, i know, i fall in love often :d). then my vision in pink gets on the dance floor and dfks the hell out of the stripper girl. when she steps away from the dance floor, all of the nervousness is gone from the other girl. i know that i have to have this pink fairy princess victory’s secret catalog model.

briefly the angel vanishes from my sight, and i panic, move over to where she has been. then she appears again, actually not far from where i had been before. i waive her over, and to my delight she complies. she does not do the usual on-floor foreplay, but just takes my hand and leads me to a room (one hour is still 210r). this session with chris turns out to be just the opposite of yesterday’s with melina. but this is not to say bad in any way, just very different. all soft and warm and gentle. i bust a good one during bbbj, and we have to take a mid-workout break to take a shower, then more cuddling and massaging and rubbing and petting and caressing, an more sexo. a really great hour of my life!

she tells me much more about herself than i should put down here. but i give you one detail that is interesting: she is a law student. once i move a part of my business down to brazil, she will likely be the first tax lawyer i hire. she gives me her phone number by writing it on the palm of my hand; we agree to go on a date to porcao flamengo and then out to dance on the next day. alas, when i call her phone after her law class on the next morning, i can hear her talk and she cannot hear me. i try it again with another phone; same result. i then remember that she got two calls while she was in the room with me, and she could not hear anything either; at the time i thought those were prank calls, but now it dawns on me that her f*cking phone is broken! (it must have happened when we kicked it off the bed during sex) … and so ends our romance. :( maybe this is a good thing, because this one could have seriously roped me in. kismet, i guess.

almost midnight, the metro is closed after 11 on thursdays; i take a taxi, and again get a low-altitude flight experience as my driver races other taxis over near empty boulevards at speeds of more than double the speed limit … with only his parking lights on. i am tired and go to sleep uncharacteristically early.

Euro100
10-13-09, 00:47
A few days in Rio have passed; time to write a report. My first impression: As good as ever, but significantly more expensive than in the past. I wasn’t really there to do bargain hunting, but still. The real-dollar exchange rate was bad; I got quotes of 1.6R/$ at the worst places, 1.7 at the Premier Copacabana hotel, 1.7 at 4*4 and 1.8 at L’uomo. L’uomo also accepted euros at a rate of 2.65.

First day, Wednesday: I arrived at the International airport at 8 pm, has to wait a bit for the Real bus (still the same bargain at 7R), took the 40 min. ride to the Copa through the rain, and arrived at the Premier Copacabana across from the Siquiera Campos metro station (still very highly recommended; reasonably priced, free wireless in the room, clean, and girl-friendly) at 9 pm. Tossed my bags into the room, showered and shaved, and was in L’uomo at 9:20.

Ahhh, I was HOME again. There are on the order of 30 girls present every night, and I must say that there isn’t an ugly one in the bunch. The blond girl at the reception recognized me, asked me why it had been so long; the girl in the locker room joked with me about the short bathrobes again, barman Peter remembered my name. Just like in the old TV series “Cheers”, except with a hell-of-a-lot better bunda selection :D.

Prices at L’uomo have gone up. 4R for a mineral water, 5R for a coke, 6R for a Skol, 15R for a tequila or a vodka, 16R for a Red Bull, 240R for a 40 minutes session in a room with a twin bed, 350R for the one hour romp in the suite. The relax area seems permanently closed, which also means no more food or quiet conversations. But all of this does not bother me enough to quit on the place.

I recognize a few girls from last year. Safina, Ingrid (who comes over for a few nice beijos, even though she was booked solid by a brother from the US for the whole evening; she is still a star … and a real sweetheart! I love this girl!), Pietra, Jamile (who now has her braces off and has perfect teeth) remember me from last year and give me the appropriate welcome with gestures ranging from air kisses, to cheek kisses, to tonsil-removal attempts (Pietra :)), and of course the obligatory bunda-grinding.

Pietra and her new friend Melina tag-team me and put on the pressure to do them dupla. I let them try to sell me for a while, buy then the “fodshka-hedgebull” they want, and have an all-around good time on my barstool for at least half an hour. Again, the rule is never to wear underwear under the robe! This way these sales pitches turn into dry-hump sessions, with almost partial insertions. OK, these two vodka-Red Bull drinks for the girls cost me around $40, but that’s two lap dances in a US strip joint, where you cannot even use your hands or kiss. Here I had my hands on all body part of both of the girls for the entire time, and both of their tongues in my mouth at the same time quite often. No friggin way to lose in this negotiation process ;)

Melina exudes the same primal Amazonian animal urge as Pietra, but comes in a smaller package. She has a face that looks stunningly like Rhianna’s. I am not one for big bundas, but like smaller well-shaped ones instead. Melina definitely scores well in this category. So I knew right away I had to have her. She has VERY perky nipples, too.

Off to the initial 40-minute session we go. My reading of Melina’s performance was dead-on, I found out right away. She was attacking me … HARD. Well, I guess the half-hour auditioning period had turned her on just as much as me. Plus she had won out over Pietra! We get so hot that we forget to put on the condom. (I know, I know, no need to lecture me.) I don’t even last 5 minutes, just have time to pull out and bust all over the sheet, creating a nice big puddle. But Milena has not had enough yet, wipes off my dick with her hand, keeps massaging it to prevent it from deflating, and rubs it hard against her clit. As she gets wilder and wilder under me, she grabs my member and rams it hard into herself. OK then, there is no holding back any more, and I go at it like an animal, too.

OK, I am giving a lot of details here, but part of the reason I am writing this is that when I am 90 and sitting in a retirement home, drooling into my oatmeal, I plan to re-read these reports and trigger those memories :D. And I don’t want to forget that feeling of her shuddering under me. Yum!

I shower and get back to the boite on wobbely legs. I sit on the couch with a beer, and Luna and Fernanda come over to join me. Yes, I am a safado, and yes I buy them Skols, and yes I make out with both of them at the same time and let them massage my dick under my robe. I love this place! I would have gone with them for a dupla, but it is closing time.

I get dressed and chat with a guy on my way out. Let’s call him Rob to protect his identity. He is just as impressed with Rio as I am and actually has moved down to Rio for at about half the time each year. We decide to chat a bit longer and to move the conversation to Veranda Help. He sees one of the L’uomo terma girls on the side, and she lives part of the time at his apartment. Let’s call her Tina. They have a very interesting relationship; she calls him about each hour while I am out with him, just to make sure that he is not porking another girl instead of drinking with me. We retire around 4 and agree to meet up two days later.

Bad Boy Billy
10-13-09, 01:08
Billy you are obviously joking me right now, you are ironical, thanks for make me smile. We both know you do not need help at all, maybe Help LOL....................Thanks for sharing info and photos.
And thank you for your kind words Lukasek

This time I am not joking - I am serious - keep in touch - I would love to meet up sometime.

Bad Boy Billy
10-13-09, 01:10
Ahhh, I was HOME again.Your reports certainly do indicate you were right at home Euro - you painted such a good picture - close my eyes and L'uomo and 4 x 4 are exactly as you describe.

Chezz
10-13-09, 02:39
As I sit here in the lounge at MIA, I cannot imagine a better way to prepare for my flight to Rio. Thanks for taking the time to write a great report.

TomChadwick1
10-13-09, 04:07
Do you need a special visa to visit Rio? I have read that you have to have a roundtrip ticket and send your passport to the Brazil embassy to get one. Need some info.

Thanks

One Eyed Man
10-13-09, 05:53
I believe the taxi drivers know all the streets they just play el stupidito.

Sometimes you get a driver from Zona Norte who doesn't really know his way around very well and you have to guide him.

Sprite13
10-13-09, 06:32
Great reports as usual Euro! Reading your adventures at L'uomo made me get a lot of saudades of that place and Rio! Keep'em coming!:)

BBB,
Could you please ask your alter ego, Billy if he can be kind enough to share contacts of the girl on the far right (the morena with the white top and blue jeans) on the following pic such as where he found her, how much and for how long and how skilled she is?

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=123346

Cheers mate.

Lancer520
10-13-09, 06:34
Wow. Great reporting. I've been missing Rio for almost 8 months now and you brought me back with your tales from Luomo. Man I love that place. the only real downer now is how crappy the dollar/real rate has become. It has been in free fall mode since March of last year and shows no signs of letting up. By the time February rolls around, we might be dollar for dollar. Thanks again Euro....

Eros74
10-13-09, 14:23
....what a great reports !!!

Thanks so much, cause I was in Rio just 2 weeks ago, but you gave me the feeling to be there again....not to mention I cannot wait to be there again...

Just one note, I really think what makes Rio....the-H-E-A-V-E-N is termas !

The way terma girls are so friendly and their cheap prices.

Rio without termas will be nothing different from one of the other 4 cities I visited (Recife-Foz-Curitiba-Floripa), expensive prices and not great attitude of GDP.

Yes only last time I discovered gpguia and had enough level of portuguese to understand almost all, so maybe I will check Belo Horizonte, so cheap fly there from Rio and escorts looks great, but even a top notch escort at reasonable price does not offer the fun you have to sit down at bar in terma and have great conversation with girl.

Thanks for report Euro100

Chris H
10-13-09, 15:01
Is this place in Copa? If so, where at exactly?

Thanks in advance for anyones help.

Poucolouco
10-13-09, 15:31
Is this place in Copa? If so, where at exactly?

Thanks in advance for anyones help.

Yes. It's on Rua Prado Jr right at the corner of Rua Barato Ribiero. It is a well-known restaurant to the locals and it is open till 4 or 5:00 in the morning. They serve generous sandwiches as well as hot meals. The place has simple decor with Don Quihote pictures and wholesome food.

Chris H
10-13-09, 18:16
Yes. It's on Rua Prado Jr right at the corner of Rua Barato Ribiero. It is a well-known restaurant to the locals and it is open till 4 or 5:00 in the morning. They serve generous sandwiches as well as hot meals. The place has simple decor with Don Quihote pictures and wholesome food.

cool, thank you!

El Greco
10-13-09, 18:22
Do you need a special visa to visit Rio? I have read that you have to have a roundtrip ticket and send your passport to the Brazil embassy to get one. Need some info.

Thanks

How can we answer your question if you don't tell us what country's passport you are holding. Simple isn't it?

Euro100
10-13-09, 21:13
Do you need a special visa to visit Rio? I have read that you have to have a roundtrip ticket and send your passport to the Brazil embassy to get one. Need some info.

If you are form the US, you do. If you are from the European Union, on the other hand, you don't. Just one of these instances of tit-for-tat.

And, yes, you need to send your passport to the embassy with a copy of the itinerary. Be prepared for this process to take 2 weeks. Even if you show up in person at the consulate or embassy, it will not be faster (yes, I have tried that!).

Euro100
10-13-09, 21:17
Yes. It's on Rua Prado Jr right at the corner of Rua Barato Ribiero. It is a well-known restaurant to the locals and it is open till 4 or 5:00 in the morning. They serve generous sandwiches as well as hot meals. The place has simple decor with Don Quihote pictures and wholesome food.
Exactly! I actually like to use the stand-up bar, which is open to Rua Barato Ribiero. I consume my sandwich and beer standing up at the bar, and I don't sit down in the restaurant portion.

Euro100
10-13-09, 21:19
As I sit here in the lounge at MIA, I cannot imagine a better way to prepare for my flight to Rio. Thanks for taking the time to write a great report.
No need to thank me. Just please do some reporting of your own when you get done with your adventures.

SlimHoleDrill
10-13-09, 22:25
Not too long ago, there was a question about Luomo charging 'up front' for the entry fee. I had never seen this but as I was leaving the other night, a newbie was coming in and they asked for the 60 up front. Not a good trend. I wondered if they gave him the 'girl discount' on the way out. I consider the management to be good friends, but, this is Rio. Don't forget how Centauras has gone. Nossa!

Gfe Finder
10-13-09, 22:31
Not too long ago, there was a question about Luomo charging 'up front' for the entry fee. I had never seen this but as I was leaving the other night, a newbie was coming in and they asked for the 60 up front. Not a good trend. I wondered if they gave him the 'girl discount' on the way out. I consider the management to be good friends, but, this is Rio. Don't forget how Centauras has gone. Nossa!

I've gone to L'uomo a few times, and still in FKK mode, took out the entrance fee to pay up front. Every time, they have refused to accept it. Since they discount the entry fee for sessioning with a girl, they wouldn't know what to charge anyway.

Buscemi
10-13-09, 23:29
If you are form the US, you do. If you are from the European Union, on the other hand, you don't. Just one of these instances of tit-for-tat.

And, yes, you need to send your passport to the embassy with a copy of the itinerary. Be prepared for this process to take 2 weeks. Even if you show up in person at the consulate or embassy, it will not be faster (yes, I have tried that!).

I dropped off my passport with the application & $130 money order (ouch) at a specific time @ The Brasilian Embassy in NY, and picked it up the next day with the Visa attached. The website indicates several days I noticed?

http://en.brazilny.org/index.php?/consulado/anchor/tourist/

http://en.brazilny.org/index.php?/consulado/anchor/horarios/

Poucolouco
10-13-09, 23:40
Not too long ago, there was a question about Luomo charging 'up front' for the entry fee. I had never seen this but as I was leaving the other night, a newbie was coming in and they asked for the 60 up front. Not a good trend. I wondered if they gave him the 'girl discount' on the way out. I consider the management to be good friends, but, this is Rio. Don't forget how Centauras has gone. Nossa!

At AMPs, Termas, Strip clubs, wherever, one should never identify theirself as a newbie. Did the newbie say something to cause them to believe he might not session, i.e. "just checking the place out?" Perhaps Luomo front desk was just covering their bet.

Kid Cisco
10-14-09, 00:02
At AMPs, Termas, Strip clubs, wherever, one should never identify theirself as a newbie. Did the newbie say something to cause them to believe he might not session, I. E. "just checking the place out? " Perhaps Luomo front desk was just covering their bet.I am willing to bet he said something like I (DON'T WON'T A GIRL OR NOTHING LIKE THAT I JUST WANT TO LOOK), yeah right LOL

Just like down around those bars around Mabs some will allow you to walk in and take a look and some will NOT unless you pay a fee.

It's always to do your homework or allow them to tell you what's up IF you don't like what they saying keep on steppin.

Kid Cisco

Rio Bob
10-14-09, 00:03
And thank you for your kind words Lukasek

This time I am not joking - I am serious - keep in touch - I would love to meet up sometime.

Bobby wants Billy not to change, Billy should read this way:

Billy thanks you for your kind words Lukasek.

This time Billy is not joking, Billy is serious, keep in touch with Billy, Billy would love to meet up sometime.

Rio Bob
10-14-09, 00:08
She gives me her phone number by writing it on the palm of my hand; we agree to go on a date to Porcao Flamengo and then out to dance on the next day. Alas, when I call her phone after her law class on the next morning, I can hear her talk and she cannot hear me. I try it again with another phone; same result. I then remember that she got two calls while she was in the room with me, and she could not hear anything either; at the time I thought those were prank calls, but now it dawns on me that her f*cking phone is broken! (It must have happened when we kicked it off the bed during sex) … and so ends our romance. :( Maybe this is a good thing, because this one could have seriously roped me in. Kismet, I guess.


Wow this had to hurt especially when you figured out her phone was broken, maybe you could have text her?

Euro100
10-14-09, 00:31
She gives me her phone number by writing it on the palm of my hand; we agree to go on a date to Porcao Flamengo and then out to dance on the next day. Alas, when I call her phone after her law class on the next morning, I can hear her talk and she cannot hear me. I try it again with another phone; same result. I then remember that she got two calls while she was in the room with me, and she could not hear anything either; at the time I thought those were prank calls, but now it dawns on me that her f*cking phone is broken! (It must have happened when we kicked it off the bed during sex) … and so ends our romance. Maybe this is a good thing, because this one could have seriously roped me in. Kismet, I guess.


Wow this had to hurt especially when you figured out her phone was broken, maybe you could have text her?

Yeah, good point. But I don't use a cell phone in Brazil. So my only way to call her was through the hotel phone from my room. And I do not know how to send a text this way. Come to think of it: I never text via my cell phones in Europe or the US either.

Plus, as you can see from my reports on the following days, the heartache didn't last that long for me ;) That's the beautiful thing about Rio: There is always a next "love of my life".

Flexinbk
10-14-09, 00:37
I believe the taxi drivers know all the streets they just play el stupidito.

I'm inclined to agree, actually found a taxi driver who didn't know the location of 4x4.

Bdonkadonk
10-14-09, 02:01
Does she go by another name on hotside? I don't see her on there.

Yeah, I wonder the same thing myself. I don't see her there either, maybe someone here can give us a clue how to find her on Hotside.

Bravo
10-14-09, 03:55
She had her own post on the "FALE COM AS ACOMPANHANTES" thread. Doesnt appear to be there now. She was charging 300R for 2 hours! You can always try going to black and white and look for her. If she isnt there, offer to buy one of the girls a drink, if she will give you her cell number.

Devilspinkick
10-14-09, 04:47
The real-dollar exchange rate was bad; I got quotes of 1.6R/$ at the worst places, 1.7 at the Premier Copacabana hotel, 1.7 at 4*4 and 1.8 at L’uomo. L’uomo also accepted euros at a rate of 2.65.


I know some folks who think the US doallar is going to tank soon. Though we can probably count on the dollar being weak for the near future, I don't think that it's going to depreciate so much that it becomes a third-world currency. Not an economist so I have no idea, but since I earn my money in dollars I certainly hope not.

I'll be in Europe for a few weeks this November (causing trouble & chasing Euro-babes); I reckon that instead of converting my Euros at the end of my vacation I'll keep a few hundred and then exchange them in Rio when I return there in January.

- DSK

Jamaicanceo
10-14-09, 04:50
Yeah, I wonder the same thing myself. I don't see her there either, maybe someone here can give us a clue how to find her on Hotside.
I believe the Luana on Hotside is the wrong girl. We want the big ass porn star. In March-May 2009, I heard she was at Black and White. But I was warned not to visit that neighborhood.