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I will be in Rio in June, I will only have time for a massage. Where should I go for the best looking and most fun?
I will be in Rio in June, I will only have time for a massage. Where should I go for the best looking and most fun?Checkout the Reports of Distinction (RODs) thread, for some places of interest.
A recent excellent first time report from by DrAxxx, may provide some answers, for good massage joints. Search for the link in the RODs and/or check early March, 2022, in this thread.
AndreSingle
04-19-22, 02:55
Went tho Mosaico this Saturday night. Arrived at around 4 am cause I was crazy horny at home LOL. Chatted with two girls and one guy who was waiting for his friends roaming around at VM.
Did an one hour with Dani (white girl with redhead hair, got a couple tattoos, including a "bon appetit" on top of her ass, have fucked her a couple times before, all bareback but with no finishing inside her). Haven't seen her in around 2 months. She didn't let me bare fuck her too much cause she was mad at me LOL, ended up giving her a massive facial, unfortunately no pics. Once in a while there are some great talent there, it sucks this Saturday it wasn't that crowded.
A Nossa Drogaria must have the cheapest tadafil in RIO. I paid 7 reis for 4 x 20 MG. 20 MG is the highest dose they sell and I bought it and didn't know what to expect. I am 34 and do not really need it depending on how many times I session in a day. I did notice a lot of side effects from that dose. Headache, strong heartbeat, feeling more easily out of breath, stomach issues and so on. These side effects I do not notice as much with same dose of sildenafil. So I will not be buying 20 MG tadalafil again. Now I have bought daily Cialis 5 MG instead at same place, 11 reis for 28 tablets. They are basically giving them away. I hope I do not get side effects from this smaller dose. Cialis is preferred because you do not have to plan you intake like with Viagra that only last for a couple of hours and takes 1 hour until it starts.
Vagabundo1
04-20-22, 06:28
Tuesday, Vagabundo went to a swing festa in Gloria.
Monique has become popular, and she sucked off all the regular guys, and is not taking it up her tight 25 year old ass.
There is no loyalty among hoars and the hoar mongering mongers who monger them and offer them to others.
So after the little swing festa, Vagabundo walked up to centro.
Some ISGers were at 65, where they were sessioning.
Vagabundo headed to 116, going through various backstreets, listening to Backstreets by the Boss, and to knopfler's eternal, Telegraph Road.
Vagabundo went to the bar in 116.
He found the first pretty young black girl with a nice ass and asked her whether she would bareback. "Vc fude sem camisinha? Sou limpio".
She was from caixis. She had two kids. She had a nice ass. She said yes, she'd bareback. Vagabundo selected half hour for 90 reais. Up in the cabin, she blew Vagabundo, then bent over, and she was wet and hot, and Vagabundo blew a load in her pussy.
Then he paid her an extra 15 reais, and got out of there ahead of any further upsell for extra prevention, because he is a vagabundo. He messaged her on zap (whatsapp), later.
He walked to Metro Uruguiana.
Along the way, a fat black girl started flirting.
Her wingman was a black tranny.
Since trannies have a habit of trying to grab their target, Vagabundo kept his distance, but the tranny kept cutting off his route, so Vagabundo took out the flashlight taser. They saw him take it out, and that was enough. He didn't even have to turn on the light much less make the audible electric shock zap.
Vagabundo got to the street vendors outside of Metro Uruguiaina, and took a seat to check with the other ISGers over at 65. None of them were coming to the metro, so Vagabundo headed back to Barra on one of the last trains. The Metro closes at 24 h, midnight, as does the BRT.
Vagabundo rode across from a very hot morena clara an a mulata on the metro. He tried twice to get the Morena's number. He was denied both times. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
On balance, Vagabundo was quite happy. Blowing a load in a real young woman's pussy is the key to happiness, even if the fuck lasts 15 minutes in a cabin with no lights. Her pussy was hot and wet, and she liked the fuck.
And so it goes. As Senor PM has been alluding to, it is better to be a monger with daily pussy in Rio de Janeiro than to be a rich world simp who is at the mercy of some women with power over the man's ability to fuck on command.
116 is basically VM (Vila Mimosa) East. It is similar talent to VM, often the same talent, as in the girl I called Midori, who was a legit pharma student, with a super tight negra anal passage that she gave up. The same game can work at tier 1 termas, indeed, I have made it work, often, and will again. But sometimes, it is great to just roll in and show your recent test, and get it BBFSCIP.
The only thing that some of these places like 116, 4 x4, Mosaico, and Perola Negra lack is Springsteen -- but DJ Vagabundo is going to change that. My mission is to bring The Boss to Rio fucking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oID_fZDtcs0
One soft infested summer, me and Terry became friends.
Trying in vain to breathe the fire we was born in.
Catching rides to the outskirts, tying faith between our teeth.
Sleeping in that old abandoned beach house, getting wasted in the heat.
And hiding on the backstreets.
Hiding on the backstreets.
With a love so hard and filled with defeat.
Running for our lives at night on them backstreets.
Slow dancing in the dark on the beach at Stockton's Wing.
Where desperate lovers park, we sat with the last of the Duke Street Kings.
Huddled in our cars, waiting for the bells that ring.
In the deep heart of the night they set us loose of everything.
To go running on the backstreets.
Running on the backstreets.
Terry, you swore we'd live forever.
Taking it on them backstreets together.
Endless juke joints and Valentino drag.
Where famous dancers scraped the tears up off the street, dressed down in rags.
Running into the darkness, some hurt bad, some really dying.
At night sometimes it seemed you could hear the whole damn city crying.
Blame it on the lies that killed us, blame it on the truth that ran us down.
You can blame it all on me, Terry, it don't matter to me now.
When the breakdown hit at midnight, there was nothing to say.
But I hated him, and I hated you when you went away.
Laying here in the dark, you're like an angel on my chest.
Just another tramp of hearts crying tears of faithlessness.
Remember all the movies, Terry, we'd go see.
Trying to learn to walk like the heroes we thought we had to be.
And after all this time, to find we're just like all the rest.
Stranded in the park and forced to confess.
To hiding on the backstreets.
Hiding on the backstreets.
Where we swore forever friends.
On the backstreets until the end.
Hiding on the backstreets.
Hiding on the backstreets.
Hiding on the backstreets.
Hiding on the backstreets.
Well a long time ago, came a man on a track.
Walking thirty miles with a sack on his back.
And he put down his load where he thought it was the best.
He made a home in the wilderness.
He built a cabin and a winter store.
And he ploughed up the ground by the cold lake shore.
And the other travellers came walking down the track.
And they never went further, no they never went back.
Then came the churches, then came the schools.
Then came the lawyers, then came the rules.
Then came the trains and the trucks with their loads.
And the dirty old track was the Telegraph Road.
Then came the mines, then came the ore.
Then there was the hard times, then there was a war.
Telegraph sang a song about the world outside.
Telegraph Road got so deep and so wide.
Like a rolling river.
And my radio says tonight it's going to freeze.
People driving home from the factories.
There's six lanes of traffic.
Three lanes moving slow.
I used to like to go to work but they shut it down.
I've got a right to go to work but there's no work here to be found.
Yes, and they say we're going to have to pay what's owed.
We're going to have to reap from some seed that's been sowed.
And the birds up on the wires and the telegraph poles.
They can always fly away from this rain and this cold.
You can hear them singing out their telegraph code.
All the way down the Telegraph Road.
Well I'd sooner forget, but I remember those nights.
Yeah, life was just a bet on a race between the lights.
You had your head on my shoulder, you had your hand in my hair.
Now you act a little colder like you don't seem to care.
But just believe in me, baby, and I'll take you away.
From out of this darkness and into the day.
From these rivers of headlights, these rivers of rain.
From the anger that lives on the streets with these names.
'Cause I've run every red light on memory lane.
I've seen desperation explode into flames.
And I don't want to see it again.
From all of these signs saying "Sorry, but we're closed".
All the way down the Telegraph Road.
https://youtu.be/_4E_924b9SU
Hey Eddie, can you lend me a few bucks?
Tonight, can you get us a ride?
Got to make it through the tunnel.
Got a meeting with a man on the other side.
Hey Eddie, this guy, he's the real thing.
So if you want to come along.
You got to promise you won't say anything.
'Cause this guy don't dance.
And the word's been passed, this is our last chance.
We got to stay cool tonight, Eddie.
'Cause man, we got ourselves out on that line.
And if we blow this one.
They ain't going to be looking for just me this time.
And all we got to do is hold up our end.
Here, stuff this in your pocket.
It'll look like you're carrying a friend.
And remember, just don't smile.
Change your shirt, 'cause tonight we got style.
Cherry says she's going to walk.
'Cause she found out I took her radio and hocked it.
But Eddie, man, she don't understand.
That two grand's practically sitting here in my pocket.
Tonight's going to be everything that I said.
And when I walk through that door.
I'm just going to throw that money on the bed.
She'll see this time I wasn't just talking.
Then I'm going to go out walking.
Hey Eddie, can you catch us a ride?
My conclusion from this visit in Rio is that good looking girls can not be had for less then 50 euro / 30 min. If I have to quote a song like Vagabundo does then it will have to be "Sad But True" by Metallica. You asked me if I have to much time, take a look in the mirror first? None goes here in search of lyrics.
You will get good performance here for cheap that you can not find in Europe. But if your searching for a visually pleasing girl in both face and body then you will have a hard time here unless you are willing to pay the mentioned price above.
I have not been to Sao Paolo yet but I doubt It will get better there? If someone goes to Brazil thinking that he will get good looking girls cheap then he will be utterly disappointed. I write this from my perspective which is visiting independent girls in Malaga. In Malaga I can get same visual level for same price as here so there is no point in going here for the beauty. But if we combine beauty with performance and diversity then yes Brazil is No. 1.
If somebody disagrees about this then give me guidance to where those girls are hiding.
Mr Enternational
04-21-22, 02:42
If somebody disagrees about this then give me guidance to where those girls are hiding.First of all you never mentioned the places you went to look for chicks.
My conclusion from this visit in Rio is that good looking girls can not be had for less then 50 euro / 30 min. If I have to quote a song like Vagabundo does then it will have to be "Sad But True" by Metallica. You asked me if I have to much time, take a look in the mirror first? None goes here in search of lyrics.
You will get good performance here for cheap that you can not find in Europe. But if your searching for a visually pleasing girl in both face and body then you will have a hard time here unless you are willing to pay the mentioned price above.
I have not been to Sao Paolo yet but I doubt It will get better there? If someone goes to Brazil thinking that he will get good looking girls cheap then he will be utterly disappointed. I write this from my perspective which is visiting independent girls in Malaga. In Malaga I can get same visual level for same price as here so there is no point in going here for the beauty. But if we combine beauty with performance and diversity then yes Brazil is No. 1.
If somebody disagrees about this then give me guidance to where those girls are hiding.Was that a joke? If yes. It's a good one!
If not, seriously, you've got to be kidding. For one thing, every well-known "massage" place in Centro will get you an hour for 150-200 reals with very cute girls. Fish in a barrel. You don't even need to get creative.
If you're still in Brazil, find my latest report (and tons of others that will send you in the right direction). If not, you should've asked before.
Was that a joke? If yes. It's a good one!
If not, seriously, you've got to be kidding. For one thing, every well-known "massage" place in Centro will get you an hour for 150-200 reals with very cute girls. Fish in a barrel. You don't even need to get creative.
If you're still in Brazil, find my latest report (and tons of others that will send you in the right direction). If not, you should've asked before.I have visited all places in Centro that is on GParena in price range "150-200 reals" an hour. And yes it really is like "fish in a barrel" in the sense "cod in a barrel". The boring cod they served you every Tuesday in school. You will for sure not find a Betta splendens in that barrel. If you consider those girls "very cute" I will call and book you an eye exam, or maybe you forgot your glasses while visiting?
Whiskeria 4 x4 and 65 have some good looking girls but many in those places are no better then what you will find in the cheaper massage salons in Centro. That brings the price to minimum 50 euro / 30 min.
I have the feeling that many guys in the Brazil thread live in the past and in their minds make the girls look better then they actually do to compensate for a slowly sinking ship and by that I mean the the economy here is such that good looking girls do not need to be in the profession anymore and I see a lot of potential for economic growth in the future. Also this "holy" Sunday irritates me like hell. Everything closed, you need a magnifying glass to find pussy. Imagine that in Bangkok on a Sunday. Not saying I like Bangkok more. Brazil is NO 1 mongering place on earth for performance + diversity + value for money. If someone claims otherwise then they have not visited.
I am still in Brazil and will just leave for a couple of weeks to hike Machu Picchu and then I will do Sao Paolo properly.
What I am claiming is that the days of cheap beauty is gone worldwide. Cheap from my European perspective means it makes financial sense to fly a long way to get the same level of beauty.
For an American all destinations are cheap. And I think most of the posters here are American.
Landed at the crack of dawn at 545 am and went straight to work near Petropolis and back to Rio by 3 pm. Supplier drops me off at SDU so my agent and I grab the metro to 4 x4 to avoid downtown traffic. First time using the metro and I am impressed with it.
Enter 4 x4 around 430 pm and leave my bag in the locker room and grab a cold beer. Talent is approx 15-20 girls and not very good. Decided to stick around to see if it gets better and it did around 6 pm. Then it was around 40-50 girls and a few more guys, but the talent definitely got better.
Talked to few girls but they were too aggressive for me. I prefer a girl who plays it conservative while talking as they usually perform better later (my own personal experience).
Ultimately found a tall morena with curly hair who was a good talker and not aggressive. She told me everything is included and I wanted to know what time she gets off and what she is going to do later. She asked what I had in mind. So I explained that we get out of there, head to dinner and then all night at my hotel. She said 600 and I agreed. She told the manage that she needs to leave to get some stuff for her kids and the manager said no. So, my agent said that let's try to pay the house something (not 1100) and see if that might work. He makes a deal with the manager and owner that pay the house 400 and 600 to the girl. Agreed and the girl goes to change and I pay the bill. Total damage was 400 to the house + 50 entry + 84 for beers = 534.
We head to the hotel, drop off our bags and go to a nice little Italian joint called L'ulivo Cucina e Vini. Try it next time you are in Copa. It is really good. This is her first Italian meal and her very first tiramisu. I feed her the first bite and I think she almost orgasmed.
Get back to the hotel and we jump on each other. Lots of GFE, tit sucking which leads me to find out that she is still making a little bit of milk and then oral. I make her come and she wants to fuck so she climbs on top and then remembers a condom. I tell her that I have my test copies in my phone and she can confirm the tests and the vasectomy results. She says no need and hops on. Tells me to hold my cum so she can swallow my "milk". I was like. FUCK YES and then finished in her mouth and she swallows it all. We take a shower and come back for round two. This time it is CIP and I fall asleep. Exhausted.
Wake up around 530 am with a raging hard on (cialis from night before) and we start round three. Again, CIP and she asks if I want anal. I asked if she had lube and she doesn't but we can try. So, I said wait a bit and we will try before she has to leave at 8 am.
Wake up at 715 am for round 4 and this time she literally tries to force my dick is her tight ass. It isn't working as there is no lube and I wasn't too interested as I don't know long I was going to hard for (4th time in less than 12 hrs is tough). So, I fucked her pussy good and finished in her mouth with her swallowing and then telling me that I didn't leave much milk. I was like. 4th time in 12 hours. I am surprised something came out. After that she leaves, I get up and shower and head to the airport for SP for my planned dupla weekend.
Total cost was 1000 for 4 fucks — 250 r per fuck not including the beers and entry since that is a sunk cost anyways.
Top talent at 4 x4 is approx a 5. 5-6. 5 at Scandello but the girls are way more "safadas".
Was that a joke? If yes. It's a good one!
If not, seriously, you've got to be kidding. For one thing, every well-known "massage" place in Centro will get you an hour for 150-200 reals with very cute girls. Fish in a barrel. You don't even need to get creative.
If you're still in Brazil, find my latest report (and tons of others that will send you in the right direction). If not, you should've asked before.I forgot to add one thing. Unless you consider normal girls walking at any random street here in Centro "very very cute" then you are lying to yourself because If I could select between those girls and the girls in the massage parlours then I would easily pick a office worker. What has also disappointed me is the level of fitness of the girls. That hard round bunda that Brazil is supposed to be famous for is definitely a rare sight in In 150 - 200 range massage places. Most have not seen a gym in ages. Then when they do the cheek greetings they can have so much makeup that it sticks to your skin like glue. You can find a diamond in the rough like I have done but "fish in a barrel" - that's just delusional.
Vagabundo1
04-21-22, 20:00
So it was earlier in the week, and Vagabundo took the luxury bus to Centro, and banged Amber Lynn in a pounding piledriver for like a solid 20 minutes of 40 minutes of animalistic fucking out of 60 minutes. That was 150.
That was Monday.
Anne Amari is sick, and I miss her, or her low pricing of 100 reais a day to stay, cook, clean, fuck, fuck, etc.
Tuesday, I did the aforementioned swing festa where Monique, one of my personal favorites has become the favorite of the local swing friends I have made. She barely even sucks my dick, as I mentioned. Of course, I sold her negra holes to a half a dozen locals who use her pretty often now.
Then I hit the backstreets with Springsteen in my ears to Centro and 116, and blew wad.
I've been taking PReP and you should too. I just tested clean, and you should test too.
So Anne Amari was a no show yesterday, and I miss her, wrestling, which she likes.
So today, I brought Ana Zawaadi Foxx in from bem zona norte, and am on blowing load 2 of 4 into her negra 20 year old pussy. I was wearing my fireman bombeiro patch pack practicing to photograph tonight. I am in a VIP booth with Swiss Embassy diplomats, but the stupid assholes paid full price of like $800 to $2500 reais per ticket. When all they needed was a fireman patch or a press pass. Chocolatehunter call your office!
Top talent at 4 x4 is approx a 5. 5-6. 5 at Scandello but the girls are way more "safadas".Anaggie, can you clarify? I don't remember anyone rating the top Scandallo women as low as 6. 5.
Glad you had a great all-night session in Rio.
Anaggie, can you clarify? I don't remember anyone rating the top Scandallo women as low as 6. 5.
Glad you had a great all-night session in Rio.I think Anaggie is saying this.
Top talent at 4 x4 = 5. 5-6. 5 at Scandello.
I forgot to add one thing. Unless you consider normal girls walking at any random street here in Centro "very very cute" then you are lying to yourself because If I could select between those girls and the girls in the massage parlours then I would easily pick a office worker. What has also disappointed me is the level of fitness of the girls. That hard round bunda that Brazil is supposed to be famous for is definitely a rare sight in In 150 - 200 range massage places. Most have not seen a gym in ages. Then when they do the cheek greetings they can have so much makeup that it sticks to your skin like glue. You can find a diamond in the rough like I have done but "fish in a barrel" - that's just delusional.Interesting! Never thought of myself as delusional, but what do I know!
Here are the ones from my report I could find easily. One's 160, another one is 200. No good?
http://onixterapias.com/terapeuta-info.php?p=ALICE+GAUCHA&s=257.
https://www.edenspa.com.br/carla
Carla is obscuring her face, but she's easily an 8. 5 in my book, face, body, demeaner, sex, everything.
I mean, I have no idea what your standards are, maybe if you post a pic or 2 that you consider worthy, that might help.
Vagabundo1
04-22-22, 14:57
So Zawaadi came by for 4 fucks. It was a good time Thursday, yesterday. She always pushes to get an uber back to bem zona Norte, but I got her an uber to metro jardim oceanico, where I got on the metro. After that she paid for the driver out of her own funds, as I had given her 400 reais. BBFSCIP.
I then headed to Copa to have dinner with ISGer Steve_ohh at Trattoria. Trattoria is a good spot. It's always good to compare notes on mongering destinations like Kenya and Madagascar.
I then headed to link up with some friends for the Carnival parade at Sambadrome, which I had bought tickets to for the 21st for 800 reais. I will just say this. Chocolateluvr's plan of going to the Samba School rehearsals beginning in January is the right plan. Going to the parade is a spectacle, and maybe should be done once in a lifetime but it is not worth the expense and hassle if you are a monger looking for bundinha. You sit in a luxury box, 30 meters back from the floats and dancers. You can bring in your drinks and eats and watch the parade like you are in a VIP box at the NFC West playoffs, but if you want to actually talk to the passisstas, the super hot dancers, get their numbers, and get good action shots, maybe try to date them (which you would have to do), then going to the Carnival Parade is way late in the game and a total waste for the purpose of non pro game.
Anaggie, can you clarify? I don't remember anyone rating the top Scandallo women as low as 6. 5.
Glad you had a great all-night session in Rio.
Not the top women .. no. I was talking the bottom level. I have seen a few at the 5.5-6.5 .. Very few .. could count them on one hand 😜 There isn’t a terma in Rio that can match the top level of Scandello.
There isnt a terma in Rio that can match the top level of Scandello.That's so sad to hear as it certainly wasn't that way when I first started going to Brazil. Hopefully there will be a rebound. I'm counting down on worldwide lineups to recover from this dang pandemic. It's going to take some time. I think it won't be at least until 2023 before we're truly back to "normal". And that's only if we don't have a relapse back into another pandemic-induced calamity. The Spanish Flu pandemic of a century ago lasted three years. So, if we have the same length of time, we're definitely talking 2023.
RockasonFive
04-22-22, 17:52
Interesting! Never thought of myself as delusional, but what do I know!
Here are the ones from my report I could find easily. One's 160, another one is 200. No good?
http://onixterapias.com/terapeuta-info.php?p=ALICE+GAUCHA&s=257.
https://www.edenspa.com.br/carla
Carla is obscuring her face, but she's easily an 8. 5 in my book, face, body, demeaner, sex, everything.
I mean, I have no idea what your standards are, maybe if you post a pic or 2 that you consider worthy, that might help.I just saw Carla today. Her face was very pretty and had a attitude. I'll definitely go back and see her again. Also, Mirela from the same spot is really hot. Her pics don't do her justice at all. Similar attitude as Carla but she is tiny. (https://www.edenspa.com.br/mirela).
I stopped into Copa Massagens late last week and saw Kelly. She was a little on the older side, morena, but cute. Plus she invited me to play with the bunda with I appreciated, haha. Not my favorite place so far but, I might have to go back and check out more talent.
I haven't gotten to see many places yet. My company actually expects me to work which is crazy LOL.
Axel Heyst
04-22-22, 21:37
Top talent at 4 x4 is approx a 5. 5-6. 5 at Scandello but the girls are way more "safadas".That is about right. You don't go to a honky tonk like 4 x 4 looking for Scandallo quality girls. If you do you will be severely disappointed. But 4 x4 is still a fun place to go when in RJ. It's raunchy and kind of wild. I once saw a 4 x4 naked girl writhing around on the dirty bar room naked mopping up the spilled drinks with her tits and ass. That's pretty "safadas" if you ask me. I call it circus circus or atmosphere and boy does 4 x4 have atmosphere. So I like to go to the joint at least once when I am in RJ. And if I find a natural looking, slender girl there of perhaps SP Clinica quality then I am a happy punter.
Meanwhile I am in SP and doing higher quality boate girls every night. It costs double or even triple. So what? It is only money. And believe me, my smokin' hot boate girls are plenty safadas when I get them into my room.
Interesting! Never thought of myself as delusional, but what do I know!
Here are the ones from my report I could find easily. One's 160, another one is 200. No good?
http://onixterapias.com/terapeuta-info.php?p=ALICE+GAUCHA&s=257.
https://www.edenspa.com.br/carla
Carla is obscuring her face, but she's easily an 8. 5 in my book, face, body, demeaner, sex, everything.
I mean, I have no idea what your standards are, maybe if you post a pic or 2 that you consider worthy, that might help.The first link is not working and the second girl I can not say anything about as it is blurred. And the issue is that all the girls that have pictures on these websites look worse when you see them face to face. It's like when you look at the burgers that are displayed before you order. What you end up getting is usually a sloppy mess. If you message Dudas massagen as an example on WhatsApp and ask them to send pictures of the girls you can think that your suddenly in heaven. Go visit and tell me what you find! There is only 1 girl that has a small resemblance off what's in your phone and mind.
As for posting pictures, I never take pictures of anyone I meet and sending pictures posted online is meaningless as it is all edited. Onix terapias is the only place that I have visited that is somewhat correct and I do not consider those girls pretty. It is plain Janes that you visit to empty your balls not because you get an instant erection and feel like you have to fuck her.
Vagabundo1
04-22-22, 23:40
Fwiw many of the best girls at 4 x4 like Penelope were out of town for this bizarre COVID delayed carnival why exactly I don't know.
Not the top women .. no. I was talking the bottom level. I have seen a few at the 5.5-6.5 .. Very few .. could count them on one hand 😜 There isnt a terma in Rio that can match the top level of Scandello.
Pahllus Maximus
04-23-22, 02:13
I've often wondered if the anal things is some persistent cultural artifact born out of Catholic birth control or perhaps porn. Whatever the cause, I love the way in BR women volunteer it and tonsil massage and swalllow (often with a wink and smile). Really gets me going when they do that. How lucky are we: duplos, morning BJ, massage, kissing and so on. I love it when I'm deep in mish in one girl whilst another rubs my balls or rims me and both are giggling as I go more and more crazy with lust. They know their power and are generous lovers. I feel like I'm a teenager that walked into Disneyland. Yay !!
Brazil totally rocks compared to the obese, entitled, ignorant (and often tattood) Americanus Femme Vulgaris who in one way or another charge premium prices (and plenty of guilt) for mediocre experiences. May Cristo Redentor survey his flock in Rio and tell the girls that they are doing great deeds and ensuring male happiness and are blessed by God.
Pahllus Maximus
04-23-22, 02:20
"they are all the same with the lights out" - well not exactly, but you get the idea. Ladies have 3 holes, hands and tits. I like to use it all, nothing like a tit massage and blowing between their tits, even better with another girl rubbing my balls from behind whilst I cream all over her friends tits. Annagie, great report!
That is about right. You don't go to a honky tonk like 4 x 4 looking for Scandallo quality girls. If you do you will be severely disappointed. But 4 x4 is still a fun place to go when in RJ. It's raunchy and kind of wild. I once saw a 4 x4 naked girl writhing around on the dirty bar room naked mopping up the spilled drinks with her tits and ass. That's pretty "safadas" if you ask me. I call it circus circus or atmosphere and boy does 4 x4 have atmosphere. So I like to go to the joint at least once when I am in RJ. And if I find a natural looking, slender girl there of perhaps SP Clinica quality then I am a happy punter.
Meanwhile I am in SP and doing higher quality boate girls every night. It costs double or even triple. So what? It is only money. And believe me, my smokin' hot boate girls are plenty safadas when I get them into my room.Oh. I enjoy my time at 4 x4 . It is a complete different atmosphere than Scandello and that makes it fun. But girl quality wise. There isn't a comparison. Sorry Rio mongers 🤣.
That is why I come for one night in Rio and bail to SP. Hell. Even some of the girls working the bar at the Renaissance are hotter than most of the girls at 4 X4.
Vagabundo1
04-23-22, 08:54
COVID ended in 4th quarter 2021 according to cab drivers commenting on traffic to Barra, or at the latest in quarter 1 2022 when mask mandates ended in Rio.
COVID now is just an excuse for control of the majority of castrated rich world men.
That's so sad to hear as it certainly wasn't that way when I first started going to Brazil. Hopefully there will be a rebound. I'm counting down on worldwide lineups to recover from this dang pandemic. It's going to take some time. I think it won't be at least until 2023 before we're truly back to "normal". And that's only if we don't have a relapse back into another pandemic-induced calamity. The Spanish Flu pandemic of a century ago lasted three years. So, if we have the same length of time, we're definitely talking 2023.
I've often wondered if the anal thing is some persistent cultural artifact born out of Catholic birth control or perhaps porn. Whatever the cause, I love the way in BR women volunteer it.I stopped asking why a long time ago. I just do it. Although, I reject the "Catholic explanation" since there are plenty of other countries that are just as Catholic as Brazil, if not more. But, you don't find a prevalence of anal sex in those countries like you do in Brazil. Now, what I understand is that there is a lot of anal sex in Muslim countries driven by the high demand that women be virgins when they get married. I have very little experience in Muslim countries (United Arab Emirates and Morocco) and was not successful in obtaining anal in any of those places. However, I have butt fucked Moroccan, Turkish, and Lebanese women in Europe (Spain and Germany). But as all of us Brazil lovers know, no place and I mean no place matches Brazil when it comes to anal sex being on the menu! So bugger on LOLOLOL!
https://www.edenspa.com.br/carla
Carla is obscuring her face, but she's easily an 8. 5 in my book, face, body, demeaner, sex, everything.
.I've been to Eden spa just once and sex was not being offered. I get it maybe this could be negotiated, is that how you had sex with her or did you take her off premises?
Vagabundo1
04-23-22, 16:58
Anne Amari half hour fuck.
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5e664b03b464c
I fucked her like a young Johnny Wadd Holmes fantasizing about her fisting seka, haha.
We watched some Anne Amari scene on evilangel.com and Cidade Baixa on Netflix, which is excellent.
I've often wondered if the anal things is some persistent cultural artifact born out of Catholic birth control or perhaps porn. Whatever the cause, I love the way in BR women volunteer it.......I just always thought it was because of Brazilian men's obsession with Brasileira ass. The particular beauty and sex appeal of Brasileira ass is well-known. Thus I think Brazilian men down through the generations have been persistent about getting that ass.
The first link is not working.Alice Gaucha shows up clearly on this link:
http://onixterapias.com/index.php
Vagabundo1
04-24-22, 14:07
Saturday, Vagabundo paid Anne Amari $300 out of her usual $800 a week. We had good sex twice on her pernoite. It's tough because she wanted more money. But as the Bubba Boy guide says somewhere, you have to be totally selfish.
So Vagabundo headed into centro on a metro with her. I got off in Lapa. I met up with ISGer PTG at UpHouse. There were 15-20 girls, many 8+, mostly darker shades. It is a good centro option on weekends.
Av. Mem de Sá, 89 - Centro, lapa. RJ, 20230-150.
I did a little swing thing and the usual morena from Meier was a good, quick fuck, the third of the day.
Then we went to Ganja Coffee Shop Lapa.
Are. Do Rezende, 82 - Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 20231-092.
This place is really good. The vibe was great. By midnight, when we arrived, the kitchen had already closed down. The cover was $10 reais. Women who like to smoke ganja like to fuck! This is a great place to take that special working girl who likes to smoke weed to socialize and enjoy. There are 3 levels. The top level is open air. I didn't detect any actual ganja being smoked up on the top floor. Maybe some other types of cigarettes. On the second floor, there is a big dance space with big speakers. We stayed until almost 4 AM. ISGer PTG is a great wingman because he speaks Portuguese. We had a good time.
Axel Heyst
04-24-22, 21:59
That was a fun post Vagabundo. I enjoyed reading it. A few of my favorite SP girls are marijuanitas too. I have one coming over tonight.
Keep rockin'.
A. H.
Saturday, Vagabundo paid Anne Amari $300 out of her usual $800 a week. We had good sex twice on her pernoite. It's tough because she wanted more money. But as the Bubba Boy guide says somewhere, you have to be totally selfish.
So Vagabundo headed into centro on a metro with her. I got off in Lapa. I met up with ISGer PTG at UpHouse. There were 15-20 girls, many 8+, mostly darker shades. It is a good centro option on weekends.
Av. Mem de S, 89 - Centro, lapa. RJ, 20230-150.
I did a little swing thing and the usual morena from Meier was a good, quick fuck, the third of the day.
Then we went to Ganja Coffee Shop Lapa.
Are. Do Rezende, 82 - Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 20231-092.
This place is really good. The vibe was great. By midnight, when we arrived, the kitchen had already closed down. The cover was $10 reais. Women who like to smoke ganja like to fuck! This is a great place to take that special working girl who likes to smoke weed to socialize and enjoy. There are 3 levels. The top level is open air. I didn't detect any actual ganja being smoked up on the top floor. Maybe some other types of cigarettes. On the second floor, there is a big dance space with big speakers. We stayed until almost 4 AM. ISGer PTG is a great wingman because he speaks Portuguese. We had a good time.Hey Vagabundo,
Thought of messaging you to ask you a question about my favorite city but couldn't. Maybe because I haven't been traveling enough lately. LOL Anyway, few days ago made post in Suriname section and probably could feel you in with more details on that if you're interested. I'm here in Rio for few more days after 10 year absence and wanted to consult an expert. Staying in Copa for now. Message me if you can.
Jimmy Boy 99
04-25-22, 03:07
Hey Vagabundo,
Thought of messaging you to ask you a question about my favorite city but couldn't. Maybe because I haven't been traveling enough lately. LOL Anyway, few days ago made post in Suriname section and probably could feel you in with more details on that if you're interested. I'm here in Rio for few more days after 10 year absence and wanted to consult an expert. Staying in Copa for now. Message me if you can.Please check your PMs. Just sent you one.
Wow that is exactly how I feel after my visits to Sao Paulo. I took the risk, went by myself to a place everyone told me was too dangerous, made love with beautiful women and now I am in USA working for several more years. Butt I have the memories.
"we go back in space because we can't go back in time".
We go back in physical space. It's why we go to the old homes we used to live in, high schools, colleges or that old bedroom we spent our youths in. We can't go back to those days but we can go back to those spots and get just that closer to those times.
So as I stood in Copacabana beach on a Monday night with the sand between my toes and the waves crashing all around me, I remember that Friday night I spent with a wild redhead branca I just met a week ago at that exact same spot. We had just come back from lapa and were in high spirits. She fell from her lime scooter and got a nasty cut and bruise on her shoulder and she could care less. We were dancing to the samba music playing from one of the stands nearby and were laughing on how badly spoke in each other's native language. We were just two people that forgot the pitfalls of life for a brief moment and basked in it. In that moment disconnected from this timeline we're forever dancing and laughing the night away because the sun never comes up.
But in this one there are no happy ever afters, there is only the morning after. When we have to go back home, back to work and back to reality.
Life's a * and then you die. People always think it's a negative line but it's just a fact. No matter what you do or who you are, you'll always fall victim to the pitfalls of life. You'll get sick and injured. You'll try to attempt something and fail. You will slowly look around you and see all the people you love get older and older until they don't.
But in between those falls we can fill our lives with the pursuit of happiness. Take risks and chase that rush. And that's what I did. It may not have gone exactly as planned but there's a story to tell now and no story started with "well I did the math, calculated the odds and decided to not take risks."
There was some loss of monetary value but in it's stead a time was captured that I can keep forever after everything else goes away.
Maybe I'm wrong tho.
Because we all know money is finite and our time is infinite after all.I'm glad you enjoyed my post but a proper recognition of the words origins is proper etiquette.
Hope your next trips to Brazil are just as good. I'll always be chasing that sunset my self.
I'm reminded by a line from a book my english teacher would lament from time to time.
"we go back in space because we can't go back in time".
We go back in physical space. It's why we go to the old homes we used to live in, highschools, colleges or that old bedroom we spent our youths in. We can't go back to those days but we can go back to those spots and get just that closer to those times.
So as I stood in copacabana beach on a Monday night with the sand between my toes and the waves crashing all around me, I remember that Friday night I spent with a wild redhead branca I just met a week ago at that exact same spot. We had just come back from lapa and were in high spirits. She fell from her lime scooter and got a nasty cut and bruise on her shoulder and she could care less. We were dancing to the samba music playing from one of the stands nearby and were laughing on how badly spoke in each other's native language. We were just two people that forgot the pitfalls of life for a brief moment and basked in it. In that moment disconnected from this timeline we're forever dancing and laughing the night away because the sun never comes up.
But in this one there are no happy ever afters, there is only the morning after. When we have to go back home, back to work and back to reality.
Life's a ***** and then you die. People always think it's a negative line but it's just a fact. No matter what you do or who you are, you'll always fall victim to the pitfalls of life. You'll get sick and injured. You'll try to attempt something and fail. You will slowly look around you and see all the people you love get older and older until they don't.
But in between those falls we can fill our lives with the pursuit of happiness. Take risks and chase that rush. And that's what I did. It may not have gone exactly as planned but theres a story to tell now and no story started with "well I did the math, calculated the odds and decided to not take risks. ".
There was some loss of monetary value but in it's stead a time was captured that I can keep forever after everything else goes away.
Maybe I'm wrong tho.
Because we all know money is finite and our time is infinite after all.
SameeRonaldo
04-25-22, 17:12
Hey all,
Happy to read amazing reports here by many Seniors.
Specific Qs-.
1. Are the Windsor hotels guests friendly?(specifically in Barra & Copa).
2. Is it easy to get a sim card being a visitor?
Any good way to use phone & internet being in Rio.
3. Best way to travel from Barra to other fun places in Rio.
4. Is it safe to travel by taxi at nights between Barra to Copacabana or Centro area & back to Barra?
5. Is it safe to carry cash for fun instead of Cards? Just to avoid records.
6. Best way to get Reais in cash by converting other currencies.
7. Fun places (Spa's, Clubs) & websites in Barra area with best girls.
I would love to meet Senior ISGers when I visit the Rio.
Thanks in advance!!
Vagabundo1
04-25-22, 19:49
Arguments among we few is like arguing whether you like a indica vape with a negra princess like Anne Amari or a sativa bong with a hoar like Amber Lynn, when, truly, we prefer both or all of the above as long as they are Brazilian, especially cariocas!
That was a fun post Vagabundo. I enjoyed reading it. A few of my favorite SP girls are marijuanitas too. I have one coming over tonight..
On my last trip to Rio I met this lovely 20 year old, had a great time with her. She texted me couple times and came over, never mentioned taxi or watched the clock. She owns her own house so business must be good.
Another pic of my favorite MILF from Dolce Vita, did her and her friend one night.
I've been to Eden spa just once and sex was not being offered. I get it maybe this could be negotiated, is that how you had sex with her or did you take her off premises?Are you sure you're thinking about Eden spa? I've never had to tell them I'm there for sex, it's not that kind of place, LOL. One spa that's not sex-friendly in Copa is Copa Terapias, IIRC.
Not a single report about the ongoing Rio carnival.
Are you sure you're thinking about Eden spa? I've never had to tell them I'm there for sex, it's not that kind of place, LOL. One spa that's not sex-friendly in Copa is Copa Terapias, IIRC.You're right, my bad, they're both in the same building and I've been to both.
Hoping to eventually get to Rio next month and have been trying to find girl friendly hotels in advance. Absolutely no luck up to now. I have emailed many including the The Windsor but no luck I'm afraid. Even if you book a double and girls show ID! Really disappointed as I love to have girls visit my hotel room, I feel more relaxed and able to enjoy myself fully.
If anyone has any advice on that front I would be more than grateful?
Good luck all.
Hey all,
Happy to read amazing reports here by many Seniors.
Specific Qs-.
1. Are the Windsor hotels guests friendly?(specifically in Barra & Copa).
2. Is it easy to get a sim card being a visitor?
Any good way to use phone & internet being in Rio.
3. Best way to travel from Barra to other fun places in Rio.
4. Is it safe to travel by taxi at nights between Barra to Copacabana or Centro area & back to Barra?
5. Is it safe to carry cash for fun instead of Cards? Just to avoid records.
6. Best way to get Reais in cash by converting other currencies.
7. Fun places (Spa's, Clubs) & websites in Barra area with best girls.
I would love to meet Senior ISGers when I visit the Rio.
Thanks in advance!
Hoping to eventually get to Rio next month and have been trying to find girl friendly hotels in advance. Absolutely no luck up to now. I have emailed many including the The Windsor but no luck I'm afraid. Even if you book a double and girls show ID! Really disappointed as I love to have girls visit my hotel room, I feel more relaxed and able to enjoy myself fully.
If anyone has any advice on that front I would be more than grateful?
Good luck all.
Hey all,
Happy to read amazing reports here by many Seniors.
Specific Qs-.Dude,
I stayed in Othon Palace for a bit and if you play it smart there is always a way to get the girl through. Now I'm staying at awesome spacious Airbnb with a normal balcony and an ocean view to die for and don't have any problems. I could have an orgy for 10 if I wanted to and nobody would give a damn.
Dude,
I stayed in Othon Palace for a bit and if you play it smart there is always a way to get the girl through. Now I'm staying at awesome spacious Airbnb with a normal balcony and an ocean view to die for and don't have any problems. I could have an orgy for 10 if I wanted to and nobody would give a damn.
Thanks very much for your reply. Maybe I am just overthinking it and worrying too much. The hotels I contacted all said no guests and many of the Airbnb apartments say in their rules 'no visitors' and are in buildings with 24 HR reception. Hopefully if you are quiet and respectful, most security will just turn a blind eye? I certainly hope so!
Thanks again.
Hello Everyone. Hoping to get some Rio advice. It's my birthday this weekend so looking for some fun. I'm not exactly new to Rio but have had more experience in Sao Paulo, I don't speak Portuguese either.
Wanting to get some recommendations. My Rio experience has solely been with escorts from the various sites to hotels. However, I'm now staying at an apartment in Leblon, with a lot of security and it's a high end building so either have to get a hotel room or try one of the termas / saunas / venue with facilities. I like the higher end girls and definitely prefer quality of quantity. The only place I really know is Centaurus is this the best top end option in Rio? Any other places I should look? Also, any Scandalo type places in Rio? My only frame of reference is Scandalo in SP, I've been there 3 times. Am I correct that nowhere in Rio will come close?
Are there any alternatives to Centaurus? My guessing is it's touristy and overpriced but still attracts the best girls.
If anyone could give me some ideas it would be greatly appreciated. I've looked at private55 and RioSexSite and nothing stands out to be honest. And that can prove costly if you don't get to see them first as photos as very photoshopped.
Hoping to eventually get to Rio next month and have been trying to find girl friendly hotels in advance. Absolutely no luck up to now. I have emailed many including the The Windsor but no luck I'm afraid. Even if you book a double and girls show ID! Really disappointed as I love to have girls visit my hotel room, I feel more relaxed and able to enjoy myself fully.
If anyone has any advice on that front I would be more than grateful?
Good luck all.
Hey all,
Happy to read amazing reports here by many Seniors.
Specific Qs-.
1. Are the Windsor hotels guests friendly?(specifically in Barra & Copa).
2. Is it easy to get a sim card being a visitor?
Any good way to use phone & internet being in Rio.
3. Best way to travel from Barra to other fun places in Rio.
4. Is it safe to travel by taxi at nights between Barra to Copacabana or Centro area & back to Barra?
5. Is it safe to carry cash for fun instead of Cards? Just to avoid records.
6. Best way to get Reais in cash by converting other currencies.
7. Fun places (Spa's, Clubs) & websites in Barra area with best girls.
I would love to meet Senior ISGers when I visit the Rio.
Thanks in advance!There is a thread for Rio hotels. But I'll name a few that I know: the Marriott, the Pestana, Porto bay. With these 3 alone should be sufficient.
There is a thread for Rio hotels. But I'll name a few that I know: the Marriott, the Pestana, Porto bay. With these 3 alone should be sufficient.I'll add Hilton (they make you register the guest now) and Hyatt Regency in Barra.
Dude,
I stayed in Othon Palace for a bit and if you play it smart there is always a way to get the girl through. Now I'm staying at awesome spacious Airbnb with a normal balcony and an ocean view to die for and don't have any problems. I could have an orgy for 10 if I wanted to and nobody would give a damn.
Thanks very much for your reply. Maybe I am just overthinking it and worrying too much. The hotels I contacted all said no guests and many of the Airbnb apartments say in their rules 'no visitors' and are in buildings with 24 HR reception. Hopefully if you are quiet and respectful, most security will just turn a blind eye? I certainly hope so!
Thanks again.I would just follow the rules of the Airbnb host and try to find another Airbnb place that lets you have a guests. You can get a complaint from the host afterwards and if you try getting another Airbnb place the host can check previous host messages about you that are only seen by hosts. Can make your chances of booking some places harder like a low Uber score.
I like airbnbs because they have lots of unique places and stays compared to traditional hotels and found it really useful when I went to arraial do cabo and buzios as the hotels there were really bland for the money and were more family focused.
Hello Everyone. Hoping to get some Rio advice. It's my birthday this weekend so looking for some fun. I'm not exactly new to Rio but have had more experience in Sao Paulo, I don't speak Portuguese either.
Wanting to get some recommendations. My Rio experience has solely been with escorts from the various sites to hotels. However, I'm now staying at an apartment in Leblon, with a lot of security and it's a high end building so either have to get a hotel room or try one of the termas / saunas / venue with facilities. I like the higher end girls and definitely prefer quality of quantity. The only place I really know is Centaurus is this the best top end option in Rio? Any other places I should look? Also, any Scandalo type places in Rio? My only frame of reference is Scandalo in SP, I've been there 3 times. Am I correct that nowhere in Rio will come close?
Are there any alternatives to Centaurus? My guessing is it's touristy and overpriced but still attracts the best girls.
If anyone could give me some ideas it would be greatly appreciated. I've looked at private55 and RioSexSite and nothing stands out to be honest. And that can prove costly if you don't get to see them first as photos as very photoshopped.It's true nothing comes close to scandallo in rio and it's a shame. Overall the amount of girls compared to SP in general are low obviously because SP is a much bigger city with a bigger population and that makes the amount of 8-10 very low as a consequence. There are a lot of attractive cariocas girls but they tend to be civilians LOL there is a migration of the best rio girls to SP so it's been getting harder to find some real stunners in RJ lately. I'm more picky because when I make that 9 HR flight I want the best for my journey and it's like the best rio girls are 7's in scandallo terms. They do make up for it by being very responsive and GFE tho which is to be considered.
Overall I would say your two best places to check out are solarium and 4 x4 for the best looking girls.
Solarium seems to have the best lighting out of all the termas so you won't be surprised afterwards when you take your girl to the room. They also seem to have the best beds as well.
4 x4 just has way more girls than all the other termas so it's just a numbers game and really cheap as well.
Centaurus seems to attractive the most hotter girls but they also attract high numbers and I've been approached by girls that were beelining me to try to do a three way for a high price that would go bad I imagine. There can be some good girls there but the numbers are low and it's the most expensive at 600 brl.
I hear Monte Carlo has been getting better but you have to arrive at 5 pm. I went twice but it was at 8 pm both times and yea it sucked.
Online girls are also really low recently because of the SP migration. Barrasvip is good too. The online girls are always changing week by week so always check to see if any new girls come online.
There are tons of prives and smaller termas but I honestly think those girls are 4-6 quality look type girls and I didn't fly out for that.
It's a tough time trying to find a 9/10 in rio in my experience but it can be done you just have to do some more scouting and get to the termas around 5-6 pm where it's peak time. After that it seems to die down.
Good luck and stay safe!
Vagabundo1
04-28-22, 12:40
I've been to both Scandallo and the Rio termas, where I have lived for 2+ years.
https://quatroporquatroclass.com.br/us/home
Penelope and Retinha, which you can see (and get their #) on the site are 9+, and the best dancers at the 19 h fully nude strip shows. For whatever reason they were not there in the past week. End of summer parties were 3 weeks ago. The top tier girls have their latest suckers (I mean high roller clients) who are taking them to viagems for 2000 reais a night. Good for them to make that money while they can. I've had those girls and their equivalents as mini relationships, catch tag and release as Bubba Boy's Bible discusses. I would just say that a 6 who you like and spends time with you without stressing about money, cooks, cleans, fucks and has similar interests may be better than the 9 who bangs 3 guys before 21 h, unless all you want to do is go fuck a 18 year old Annette Schwartz for 40 minutes, which has its place. After 750 days, I've had a lot of that.
IMHO, the best girls in Rio come from.
1 Mosaico after 23 h. The DJ from 4 x 4 goes to Mosaico after work and fucks and his friends fuck there.
The absolute best girls I have had in my trips to Rio come from Mosaico and the now defunct Club Red Light which was nearby. Strangely, the vibe at Ganja Coffee Shop Lapa was very near Club Red Light, with the top floor open deck, the dance floor on the 2nd floor (though no hoaring, but rich older men and hot af younger women).
2. Perola Negra. Ave de Pepe 400. The last time I went, a month ago, with a brit from ISG, we immediately found two super hot girls, one a mineira, smoking body, super pretty, big fake tits who I banged, and a Rio negra with a smoking hot body. The same girls from 4 x4 work at Perola, like Penelope, like a certain Yasmin from Campo Grande, etc, etc.
And as long as you are in Barra, go to Paris, again, late at night. The only true girl from Portugal I found was at Paris. Super pretty blonde, loira.
I've said it before, often, but Barra is the Rio Grande do sul of Rio -- the Gauchas, the rich, the whites only safe beaches with lots of police, etc. The white couples who will partner swap swing to get some chocolate in their diet (and I have pictures of a white husband and wife with their mouths on the ass and pussy at the same time of very negra Monique). It does take speaking porto, and even the effort to learn the basics will pay huge dividends. No Google translate on your phone does not count.
It's true nothing comes close to scandallo in rio and it's a shame. Overall the amount of girls compared to SP in general are low obviously because SP is a much bigger city with a bigger population and that makes the amount of 8-10 very low as a consequence. There are a lot of attractive cariocas girls but they tend to be civilians LOL there is a migration of the best rio girls to SP so it's been getting harder to find some real stunners in RJ lately. I'm more picky because when I make that 9 HR flight I want the best for my journey and it's like the best rio girls are 7's in scandallo terms. They do make up for it by being very responsive and GFE tho which is to be considered.
Overall I would say your two best places to check out are solarium and 4 x4 for the best looking girls.
Solarium seems to have the best lighting out of all the termas so you won't be surprised afterwards when you take your girl to the room. They also seem to have the best beds as well..
Vagabundo1
04-28-22, 12:46
I did go on 21st. I wrote it up. My summary is that the $800 reais (I thought it originally was 150 reais but that turned out to be dollars) is worth it once in a life time for me as a butt obsessed back packer monger and that the chocolateluvr strategy of going to samba school rehearsals was the best way to enjoy carnival as talking to the dancers at the actual final event is a non starter.
I saw the centro carnival madness last Saturday when coming back from lapa with ISGer PTG, and the street madness in Lapa was insane. My view is it is best to avoid most of that street madness for security.
Not a single report about the ongoing Rio carnival.
Thanks for the advice.
I will respond properly to both of you.
I looked at barrasvip and saw two that looked good. Both have reviews and one speaks what seems to be quite fluent English from the messaging.
https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-gabi-glow
https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-larissa-drummond
Both are 600.
I am guessing that for rio in terms of looks these two are probably what I can expect in terms of top end? Will if find better if going to one of the termas? I'm tempted to just go for the escort route first time. Just wondering if there's anything out there that is likely going to serve me better. Gabi glow looks to have an amazing body and found a review that said she had a nice face as well. 600 is a good price for me.
I've been to both Scandallo and the Rio termas, where I have lived for 2+ years.
https://quatroporquatroclass.com.br/us/home
Penelope and Retinha, which you can see (and get their #) on the site are 9+, and the best dancers at the 19 h fully nude strip shows. For whatever reason they were not there in the past week. End of summer parties were 3 weeks ago. The top tier girls have their latest suckers (I mean high roller clients) who are taking them to viagems for 2000 reais a night. Good for them to make that money while they can. I've had those girls and their equivalents as mini relationships, catch tag and release as Bubba Boy's Bible discusses. I would just say that a 6 who you like and spends time with you without stressing about money, cooks, cleans, fucks and has similar interests may be better than the 9 who bangs 3 guys before 21 h, unless all you want to do is go fuck a 18 year old Annette Schwartz for 40 minutes, which has its place. After 750 days, I've had a lot of that.
IMHO, the best girls in Rio come from.
1 Mosaico after 23 h. The DJ from 4 x 4 goes to Mosaico after work and fucks and his friends fuck there.
The absolute best girls I have had in my trips to Rio come from Mosaico and the now defunct Club Red Light which was nearby. Strangely, the vibe at Ganja Coffee Shop Lapa was very near Club Red Light, with the top floor open deck, the dance floor on the 2nd floor (though no hoaring, but rich older men and hot af younger women).
2. Perola Negra. Ave de Pepe 400. The last time I went, a month ago, with a brit from ISG, we immediately found two super hot girls, one a mineira, smoking body, super pretty, big fake tits who I banged, and a Rio negra with a smoking hot body. The same girls from 4 x4 work at Perola, like Penelope, like a certain Yasmin from Campo Grande, etc, etc.
And as long as you are in Barra, go to Paris, again, late at night. The only true girl from Portugal I found was at Paris. Super pretty blonde, loira.
I've said it before, often, but Barra is the Rio Grande do sul of Rio -- the Gauchas, the rich, the whites only safe beaches with lots of police, etc. The white couples who will partner swap swing to get some chocolate in their diet (and I have pictures of a white husband and wife with their mouths on the ass and pussy at the same time of very negra Monique). It does take speaking porto, and even the effort to learn the basics will pay huge dividends. No Google translate on your phone does not count.
LatinaLover#1
04-28-22, 20:41
I made many trips to Copa for like 5 years before Help closed and 2 trips after Help closed and Rio lost it's appeal for me. Been going to Colombia almost exclusively for the last 10 years or so and always have a great trip. But I'm curious from the vet's who know Copa like before and how it ranks up now vs. Back then and is it wort the long trip to go back.
Vagabundo1
04-28-22, 21:58
You should check for positive reviews on gparena.net , which covers some barravipsrio girls.
Thanks for the advice.
I will respond properly to both of you.
I looked at barrasvip and saw two that looked good. Both have reviews and one speaks what seems to be quite fluent English from the messaging.
https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-gabi-glow
https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-larissa-drummond
Both are 600.
I am guessing that for rio in terms of looks these two are probably what I can expect in terms of top end? Will if find better if going to one of the termas? I'm tempted to just go for the escort route first time. Just wondering if there's anything out there that is likely going to serve me better..
Thanks for the advice.
I will respond properly to both of you.
I looked at barrasvip and saw two that looked good. Both have reviews and one speaks what seems to be quite fluent English from the messaging.
https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-gabi-glow
https://www.barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-larissa-drummond
Both are 600.
I am guessing that for rio in terms of looks these two are probably what I can expect in terms of top end? Will if find better if going to one of the termas? I'm tempted to just go for the escort route first time. Just wondering if there's anything out there that is likely going to serve me better. Gabi glow looks to have an amazing body and found a review that said she had a nice face as well. 600 is a good price for me.If you're into high end looks then I would say sites like this is where you going to get the best of the best and I'm sure that site has more than just 2 , many of the girls are young, fresh, natural and fun plus they are freelancers so if you connect with them you might have the opportunity to hang out with them. Through the years I've met many escorts who shut their phone off to hang out and have some fun. Now there are even high end Madams in Rio and Sao Paulo that you need to be in the know about who have really the best, I don't say I do but I've been told they exist.
I made many trips to Copa for like 5 years before Help closed and 2 trips after Help closed and Rio lost it's appeal for me. Been going to Colombia almost exclusively for the last 10 years or so and always have a great trip. But I'm curious from the vet's who know Copa like before and how it ranks up now vs. Back then and is it wort the long trip to go back.I've been going to Copa before Help opened and since it closed. When Help was open I went every night on my trips, Loved it! For sure Copa is not the same but my recent trip to Rio was one of my best, it never gets old. Instead of Help I went to Dolce Vita, it's a tenth the size but full of freelancers, young and good looking. The place is not perfect, you need to watch your bill etc. But I had a great time there even though prices are high but I did manage to take out some very nice girls of all ages shapes and sizes, it was all good for me. I usually stay in walking distance to Dolce Vita, makes it very easy for multiple trips and the girls love it.
Jimmy Boy 99
04-29-22, 04:54
Please check your PMs. Sent you one.
Jimmy Boy 99
05-01-22, 04:06
Please check your PMs. Sent you one.
I've been to both Scandallo and the Rio termas, where I have lived for 2+ years.
https://quatroporquatroclass.com.br/us/home
Penelope and Retinha, which you can see (and get their #) on the site are 9+, and the best dancers at the 19 h fully nude strip shows. For whatever reason they were not there in the past week. End of summer parties were 3 weeks ago. The top tier girls have their latest suckers (I mean high roller clients) who are taking them to viagems for 2000 reais a night. Good for them to make that money while they can. I've had those girls and their equivalents as mini relationships, catch tag and release as Bubba Boy's Bible discusses. I would just say that a 6 who you like and spends time with you without stressing about money, cooks, cleans, fucks and has similar interests may be better than the 9 who bangs 3 guys before 21 h, unless all you want to do is go fuck a 18 year old Annette Schwartz for 40 minutes, which has its place. After 750 days, I've had a lot of that.
IMHO, the best girls in Rio come from.
1 Mosaico after 23 h. The DJ from 4 x 4 goes to Mosaico after work and fucks and his friends fuck there.
The absolute best girls I have had in my trips to Rio come from Mosaico and the now defunct Club Red Light which was nearby. Strangely, the vibe at Ganja Coffee Shop Lapa was very near Club Red Light, with the top floor open deck, the dance floor on the 2nd floor (though no hoaring, but rich older men and hot af younger women).
2. Perola Negra. Ave de Pepe 400. The last time I went, a month ago, with a brit from ISG, we immediately found two super hot girls, one a mineira, smoking body, super pretty, big fake tits who I banged, and a Rio negra with a smoking hot body. The same girls from 4 x4 work at Perola, like Penelope, like a certain Yasmin from Campo Grande, etc, etc.
And as long as you are in Barra, go to Paris, again, late at night. The only true girl from Portugal I found was at Paris. Super pretty blonde, loira.
I've said it before, often, but Barra is the Rio Grande do sul of Rio -- the Gauchas, the rich, the whites only safe beaches with lots of police, etc. The white couples who will partner swap swing to get some chocolate in their diet (and I have pictures of a white husband and wife with their mouths on the ass and pussy at the same time of very negra Monique). It does take speaking porto, and even the effort to learn the basics will pay huge dividends. No Google translate on your phone does not count.I think the main distinction that you mentioned that you actually live in rio should be noted. While I would say 95% of posters are only vacationing for 4-7 days on average to 15 days on the high end. To the guys who are only here for a short amount of time a 6 who can clean and cook isn't really a priority. We want the 9 that will satisfy our fantasies and desires to bang the hottest girls that Brazil has to offer. Most of us coming from US / EU and especially the ones taking connecting flights making that 9+HR flight isn't doing all that for a 6 who can clean and cook. In fact for some posters that 6 is a wife / girlfriend waiting back at home LOL FOMO is also a big factor as you said some of these top girls are here for a bit and disappear for weeks to months. Best to get them when you can.
I've actually been with Penelope and my friend was with Retinha and they are definitely top girls for sure! But as you said the best looking girls are mostly in Barra and are civilians with boyfriends / husbands that only speak Porto which is a shame. For most poster there is simply not much time to find a girl you can click with that you can take a swing club in Barra and try to get some rich Barra Guacha on top of being very well versed in Porto. That's quite a tall order.
Your other info is very informative and definitely will be useful to list of posters.
For my personal viewpoint I always found the boates in SP (scandallo, bomboa, cafe photo, connection) all had girls that were 8+ on most given nights and if not you had the other 3 to go and definitely find something on top of the online sites. The interesting part of SP, especially in scandallo but also the other boates, os that you can find actual professional girls like doctors, lawyers and even models working there. My last trip in September I banged a TV model in connection and it was funny to turn on my tv the next day to see her doing some local soccer stuff. A friend of mine got a model from scandallo and he also liked that he saw her face on billboards all around SP.
That's a really nice wow factor you can't easily get in RJ. In SP that's a Thursday night!
SameeRonaldo
05-02-22, 10:29
I think the main distinction that you mentioned that you actually live in rio should be noted. While I would say 95% of posters are only vacationing for 4-7 days on average to 15 days on the high end. To the guys who are only here for a short amount of time a 6 who can clean and cook isn't really a priority. We want the 9 that will satisfy our fantasies and desires to bang the hottest girls that Brazil has to offer. Most of us coming from US / EU and especially the ones taking connecting flights making that 9+HR flight isn't doing all that for a 6 who can clean and cook. In fact for some posters that 6 is a wife / girlfriend waiting back at home LOL FOMO is also a big factor as you said some of these top girls are here for a bit and disappear for weeks to months. Best to get them when you can.
I've actually been with Penelope and my friend was with Retinha and they are definitely top girls for sure! But as you said the best looking girls are mostly in Barra and are civilians with boyfriends / husbands that only speak Porto which is a shame. For most poster there is simply not much time to find a girl you can click with that you can take a swing club in Barra and try to get some rich Barra Guacha on top of being very well versed in Porto. That's quite a tall order.Hey,
I agree with you that most of us are short stay visitors and would be very much interested in the most beautiful girls!
Can someone recommend ways to find 8+ rated girls in Barra?
Unfortunately Barravip website will be difficult for myself, as the hotel where I will be staying seems to be non-girl friendly.
Are there any clubs or places nearby Barra or in RJ?
Thanks in advance!
Vagabundo1
05-02-22, 13:42
Over these covid years, I've had 3-5 girls a week, sex 2-3 times a day, 14 pops a week when I counted, sometimes with the 9's for 9 and a half weeks. The 9's always are gaming hard for the next big donation, like, you're going to give me a notebook. A car. Their alcoholic mother will suggest you have a kid, get married in a church, and buy a house in saquarema in their name. Good for them, they are only 18-21 once, and only 10% of them are 9+, so make that money like a pro soccer player. Its just after 2 years of playing the game of lies over drinks and hash that it gets old. Yeah my situation is different from most in that I live here on a retirement that is multiples of what a man needs in Rio. I appreciate your description of fucking the models on TV or the billboard in SP in Scandallo, which I went to, and where I remember there is no beach nearby which makes a difference to me, but probably not to most.
I had my 9 and a half week mini relationship with a 9 who dances better than Penelope / renatinha in the end of the "off season" -- Oct. Dec. But then the high season of new years came around and she was like, guys offer me 2000 r overnight, and I was like, not me, GTFO. But the 9 and a half weeks was fun, and I recommend it. You have to work up to coming to Rio for several months at a time.
The best thing is a high low mix -- always have a 9 in the mix, and a few 6 or 7's who stay as long as you want and are actually good to live with if you want.
I think the main distinction that you mentioned that you actually live in rio should be noted. While I would say 95% of posters are only vacationing for 4-7 days on average to 15 days on the high end. To the guys who are only here for a short amount of time a 6 who can clean and cook isn't really a priority. We want the 9 that will satisfy our fantasies and desires to bang the hottest girls that Brazil has to offer. Most of us coming from US / EU and especially the ones taking connecting flights making that 9+HR flight isn't doing all that for a 6 who can clean and cook. In fact for some posters that 6 is a wife / girlfriend waiting back at home LOL FOMO is also a big factor as you said some of these top girls are here for a bit and disappear for weeks to months. Best to get them when you can.
I've actually been with Penelope and my friend was with Retinha and they are definitely top girls for sure! But as you said the best looking girls are mostly in Barra and are civilians with boyfriends / husbands that only speak Porto which is a shame. For most poster there is simply not much time to find a girl you can click with that you can take a swing club in Barra and try to get some rich Barra Guacha on top of being very well versed in Porto. That's quite a tall order.
Over these covid years, I've had 3-5 girls a week, sex 2-3 times a day, 14 pops a week when I counted, sometimes with the 9's for 9 and a half weeks. The 9's always are gaming hard for the next big donation, like, you're going to give me a notebook. A car. Their alcoholic mother will suggest you have a kid, get married in a church, and buy a house in saquarema in their name. Good for them, they are only 18-21 once, and only 10% of them are 9+, so make that money like a pro soccer player. Its just after 2 years of playing the game of lies over drinks and hash that it gets old. Yeah my situation is different from most in that I live here on a retirement that is multiples of what a man needs in Rio. I appreciate your description of fucking the models on TV or the billboard in SP in Scandallo, which I went to, and where I remember there is no beach nearby which makes a difference to me, but probably not to most.
I had my 9 and a half week mini relationship with a 9 who dances better than Penelope / renatinha in the end of the "off season" -- Oct. Dec. But then the high season of new years came around and she was like, guys offer me 2000 r overnight, and I was like, not me, GTFO. But the 9 and a half weeks was fun, and I recommend it. You have to work up to coming to Rio for several months at a time.
The best thing is a high low mix -- always have a 9 in the mix, and a few 6 or 7's who stay as long as you want and are actually good to live with if you want.I would like to see a picture of your 9 and I am sure others would to. Out of pure curiosity of course. I agree with your methods 100% and if I was in the same situation, I would probably chart the same course.
Vagabundo1
05-02-22, 19:55
Not going to happen.
But as I said she was a better dancer than either Penelope or renatinha in Oct.
I would like to see a picture of your 9 and I am sure others would to. Out of pure curiosity of course. I agree with your methods 100% and if I was in the same situation, I would probably chart the same course.
Vagabundo1
05-02-22, 23:27
Ever since reading Shantaram, the novel by Roberts a few years ago, I generally don't post pictures anymore. Just book your next trip and find your next 9.
I would also say, as long as we are on the subject, that a 6 can quickly become an 8 if you help her a little with make up and cloths, and it's kind of nice to have a regular GF for a while instead of a hoar who is constantly pushing to get a higher cpf (cost per fuck), and all the other BS that goes with hoaring.
I would like to see a picture of your 9 and I am sure others would to. Out of pure curiosity of course. I agree with your methods 100% and if I was in the same situation, I would probably chart the same course.
Vagabundo1
05-03-22, 14:52
Anne Amari solid morning bang.
So we woke up in the love shack in the clouds above the Atlantic coast, I went downstairs to the little food corner where you can buy the basics but all you need on a credit card, and got some stuff to make misto quente (ham, cheese, bread), and came back up, did some work while overlooking the peaceful Atlantic beach, clean, and with a view that extends into the shipping lanes south of RJ, and dead on the air routes of the oil service birds, and did a bunch of spreadsheet work, the kind of squeeky crap that demands a fuck, which I did in fact then get.
So here's how to fuck a Brazilian girl.
Play Felipe ret.
In Portuguese, bote Felipe ret.
The whole album.
Revel or audaz.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=yAk7BkGl2Jw&list=PLtEgn7Ed9MDHnwzh7ogQcFaW6IvlJPh5v
This is 99% of what you need to know about sex in Brazil.
Play felipe Ret.
The sense of hearing is one of the last we lose when we die, and death in literature has been equated to orgasm, something about brain chemistry and organization that the doctors in the group will no doubt seize on and explain.
So, again, you fuck or try to take steps towards fucking anywhere in Brazil, play Felipe ret.
On the beach.
In VM.
In 4 x4.
In Perola negra.
In mosaico.
Hotel California by sambo is good too.
Speaking of which, when you are not fucking, play porta dos fundos.
https://youtu.be/y2mccgB3XIk
OK, now that I have helped your sex life in Brazil by multiples, I will get to the sex.
She spent an hour in the bathroom while I crunched numbers. By the way, financial advice to all rich world men: just come to Brazil, you will become richer simple due to the cost of living.
And your dick will thank you.
So, then she comes out of the bathroom, and she sits in my lap, all pretty and made up and smelling nice, and we kiss on the couch, then go to the bed, and we hit it for 30 minutes judging by the Felipe ret album timing, all positions, BBFS.
I played Anne Amari's single scene on evil angel, which is pretty hot for a solo scene, and on the laptop I played Noemi bilas with mark woods in the backyard pool and living room of some fucked up san Fernando valley love shack.
My fantasy du jour was Noemie bilas widening Anne Amari's asshole with all sizes of anal toys since anne Amari is a anal virgin, and that is unacceptable in the roissy, the love shack of the story of O, which I must recreate here for the worthy few (get a test men), if I ever get around to it.
AndreSingle
05-03-22, 18:56
Rio street carnival is good if you're young and willing to enjoy the parades all day long under a boiling sun LOL. It will mostly depend if you are good looking and willing to meet new people then trying to fuck some random girl or whatever. I ended up fucking girls I already knew and this one girl I know from twitter, met her at Pedra do Sal, we made out then I took her to some empt street and she gave me a very nice BJ between some cars (I got the video of that fun).
Not a single report about the ongoing Rio carnival.
AndreSingle
05-03-22, 19:07
Ended up going to 4 x 4 last Thursday, arrived around 8 pm. Took a nice shower, put on the robe and went hunting. I was checking the girls but none who caught my attention until Laura arrived, I remembered seeing her last time I was there. She's blonde, around 1,60 meters, nice silicone tits and a nice round ass. I told her I'd enjoy teasing her by rubbing my cock on her pussy and ass before wearing a condom and she said lets go. We barely entered the cabin and I went straight to eat her ass, gave her some good tongue fucking before teasing my cock in her ass, when I noticed I was fucking her ass bare. The 30 min session was basically that with her pussy and ass bare. Two nuts in her mouth which she didn't swallow sadly LOL. Saved her phone number for some outcall. Lets see if she got another girl for a BBFS 3 some there.
I know there is a "Living" section but it doesn't seem to get much traffic, so I figured I would ask here. I am looking to purchase a house in Rio by the end of the year. (Phallus gave me a great tip on the area where he has his home). I think one of the biggest issues I am facing in deciding Where in Rio I would like to live. I don't think I want to be in the middle of the tornado in Copa, but I don't want to be more than 40 minutes away in case I want some action and I don't want to spend more than 150 k dollars. I was hoping I could hear some feedback from members who actually purchased property as to why they chose the area they live in.
I have looked in Recreio, Jacarepagu, Niteroi, Ilha do Governador and Barra. I even talked to some locals about moving into Vidigal or Babilnia.After talking to a number of Brasilians who live in America, I think I have changed my mind about buying property in brasil and instead will look to rent instead. Literally every brasilian I spoke to had a negative reaction when speaking about buying property in brasil! "They all said they wouldn't do it because the risk of being robbed buy the seller, lawyer, bank, etc is too great. " Each one had a horror story and tried to pursude me from risking my money.
I was very surprised because I figured if you had a good lawyer, you had nothing to worry about in terms of making sure all the paperwork was legit. But after listening to these brasilians, it seems like a huge gamble to purchase property in Rio. I might as well use my money to purchase another rental property in the states and use the proceeds to pay my rent in brasil.
Mr Enternational
05-05-22, 23:13
After talking to a number of Brasilians who live in America, I think I have changed my mind about buying property in brasil and instead will look to rent instead. Good to know that you came to your senses.
Pahllus Maximus
05-06-22, 16:28
All immobile assets carry risks, the USA especially with state / Federal / mechanics liens, fucked up titles, predatory, intrusive, banks and a politically and judicially protected class of blackmailers, known as lawyers, who are in the shakedown business of made up claims and know a payoff is cheaper than defending their nonsense (no loser pays legal costs in USA, so 100% upside for these bandits). Then there are property taxes, which should be called other peoples reproductive choices and fat pension for city officials cushy jobs tax). People with expensive toys get robbed in the USA all the time. Men can additionally expect to get hit up on divorce, bullshit pregnancy / child support and so on from predatory women (also a risky a business. That's why we are here, hahah). USA is a predatory, financialized industry nation that screws over the common man in just about any area you look. P4P is illegal and many stings and traps with tatooed, stupid and or drug infested ugly entitled hos that only have a vagina as their claim to fame. Renting is also bad, as you are little more than a squatter with little or no rights, people do not take you seriously, "oh, just a renter", and a system stacked against you, with a few rare exceptions, such as Germany and commercial leases.
Owning stuff requires a good team of lawyers and accountants (think yearly cost to play levy), shell companies, nominees and much more, and is good advice anywhere for anything. As for me, the team of carpenters, painters etc are just about done, I'm ahead about 10% on currency, ocean views, leafy road, breeze, a vegetable garden, seclusion, my own personal orgy pad, and easy access to the subways. Brazil also has good and cheap health care relative to the USA. What I paid would not buy a shit hole in London, NYC, Miami or LA that are hyped up on a credit bubble and bad value. I can afford it and have no regrets. The amount of profound orgasms with nubile 20 year olds and big smile on my face also generates a financial return on assets, just because it is cannot be conventionally measured does not mean it is not real. Let me put it another way. At death the value of your stuff and convertibility falls to zero.
Pahllus Maximus
05-06-22, 16:39
That's it. Cost and quality of living to income ratio. USA, bad. Brazil is dirt cheap, endless sex and massage and friendly people, and earn $ elsewhere, though there are some solid BR companies with international revenue and dividends.
If your work allows it, live cheaply, simply and happily, shun status jedi mind tricks, make every dollar earned an investment bee and remember compound interest. Arbitrage living costs to earning.
Vagabundo1
05-06-22, 17:21
Well said, and if it is money you can lose, then good on ya.
Senor Bravo too is spot on about the value of putting your capital into assets in your rich world country where you know the language, law and system that produces enough income to rent in Brazil, but still be able to GTFO if necessary.
I enjoyed our meal at Na Brasa Colombia, and look forward to another soon.
All immobile assets carry risks, the USA especially with state / Federal / mechanics liens, fucked up titles, predatory, intrusive, banks and a politically and judicially protected class of blackmailers, known as lawyers, who are in the shakedown business of made up claims and know a payoff is cheaper than defending their nonsense (no loser pays legal costs in USA, so 100% upside for these bandits). Then there are property taxes, which should be called other peoples reproductive choices and fat pension for city officials cushy jobs tax). People with expensive toys get robbed in the USA all the time. Men can additionally expect to get hit up on divorce, bullshit pregnancy / child support and so on from predatory women (also a risky a business. That's why we are here, hahah). USA is a predatory, financialized industry nation that screws over the common man in just about any area you look. P4P is illegal and many stings and traps with tatooed, stupid and or drug infested ugly entitled hos that only have a vagina as their claim to fame. Renting is also bad, as you are little more than a squatter with little or no rights, people do not take you seriously, "oh, just a renter", and a system stacked against you, with a few rare exceptions, such as Germany and commercial leases..
I have a one day layover at Rio and will probably stay near Copacabana. As I have very less time and being little less adventurous, I was thinking of trying a spa where I can get a decent girl offering sex. Not really interested in massage.
So my noob question is what are the going rates of massage parlours in Rio? Is the counter charges inclusive of extra services inside or they are separate. If extra services charges is separate then what are the usual rate for full service / sex.
Apologies for too many noobie questions. This is my first visit to Brazil and language is a big problem here.
RandomPilot
05-08-22, 23:42
Are thermas similar to a HK club in Tijuana? If not is there anything similar to that in Rio? I like to relax and drink in a club for a little bit before choosing a girl.
I will be there in June staying at Copacabana beach. Where can I go to gwt a massage with full service ending?
Are thermas similar to a HK club in Tijuana? If not is there anything similar to that in Rio? I like to relax and drink in a club for a little bit before choosing a girl.You want to go to the ones in centro like 4x4 to get something similar but they are still not the same.
I like to relax and drink in a club for a little bit before choosing a girl.This you can get at all termas.
Vagabundo1
05-12-22, 02:11
According to the bubba boy guide, " you have to be a selfish, uncaring bastard to be a successful monger."
In part for self interest, I have been spending most of my time lately with homegirl. I need to do a bunch of work, and she stays and never asks for money. I also like doing things with her, like hiking. We went on a great hike yesterday. I bought her some nice cloths and a pack at decathlon, which she was thrilled with, and me too in seeing her with the nice stuff as opposed to the usual carioca lower income clothing. She also went to the academia (gym) in whites only de facto barra where I live in Transamerica. And I like the sex, which we have at least once a day. Though the number of pops is less than my often 4 a day, the actual time in heart zone training is about the same, upwards of 40 minutes of total fucking. So, in my own way, I am being selfish in keeping around a girl all the time. Plus, I do enjoy her company. She says she wants to do a dupla with a blond, so that will happen.
After all these almost 760 days of straight hoaring, it is nice to have some stability. She actually does help with some tasks.
The biggest factor in keeping or kicking her out is simply language -- sound. I want to listen to english language video, and she gets ready to leave when I play an hour of a english language show.
She wants to order food on iFood, but she can't do all the steps as I have my phone set to english.
Etc.
So, here's a protip for all you mongers coming into Rio or Brazil:
Learn Portuguese by watching Porto dos fundos on youtube with English subtitles.
Just do it.
Yes, you, sitting in your mother's house in Wisconsin gaming on your fucking huge gamer desktop. Put in that headset, and open another window, and listen to porta dos fundos. You'll be glad you did!
You might also set your phone to Portuguese and try to function.
Just saying.
Oh, and work out.
It is true, Vagabundo needs to drop some kilograms. That is because fucking and eating with teenagers for 760 days will build some bad habits, which is to say, I need to let her eat the KFC alone while I drink just a water and whey protein shake. Harder said than done.
Ramble on, fellas.
SameeRonaldo
05-12-22, 10:23
Hey Vagabundo,
You are amazing man!
I agree with you. For those who are staying on Long term in Brazil, that's the best way to live happily.
BTW, how do you manage to enjoy 4 pops a day?
Are you just 21 yrs?
Please share some health tips to stay strong down there for longer life.
Health is Wealth!
I wish you a healthy and long life ahead.
Thanks again for amazing posts. I would love to meet you in person maybe next weekend when I'll be in Barra.
According to the bubba boy guide, " you have to be a selfish, uncaring bastard to be a successful monger."
In part for self interest, I have been spending most of my time lately with homegirl. I need to do a bunch of work, and she stays and never asks for money. I also like doing things with her, like hiking. We went on a great hike yesterday. I bought her some nice cloths and a pack at decathlon, which she was thrilled with, and me too in seeing her with the nice stuff as opposed to the usual carioca lower income clothing. She also went to the academia (gym) in whites only de facto barra where I live in Transamerica. And I like the sex, which we have at least once a day. Though the number of pops is less than my often 4 a day, the actual time in heart zone training is about the same, upwards of 40 minutes of total fucking. So, in my own way, I am being selfish in keeping around a girl all the time. Plus, I do enjoy her company. She says she wants to do a dupla with a blond, so that will happen..
According to the bubba boy guide, " you have to be a selfish, uncaring bastard to be a successful monger."
.....He said that? Then I must be an unsuccessful monger who has banged thousands of working girls over the last 5 decades.
So, here's a protip for all you mongers coming into Rio or Brazil:
Learn Portuguese by watching Porto dos fundos on youtube with English subtitles.
Just do it.
Yes, you, sitting in your mother's house in Wisconsin gaming on your fucking huge gamer desktop. Put in that headset, and open another window, and listen to porta dos fundos. You'll be glad you did!
You might also set your phone to Portuguese and try to function.
Just saying.Yes, thank you Vagabundo! I never heard of this show until you brought it to my attention. It's good even for those of us with sufficient amount of Portuguese. I just saw couple of clips. This is very very funny! LOL And indeed I do agree this is a very good tool for picking up Portuguese too!
Do you yourself a favor and listen to the smart man with smart suggestions based on his long experience of living in Brazil and no, I'm not talking about yours truly. Try to watch the darn show. The English subtitles are very good too and they would guide you into the promised land of getting much more quality GDP than you would get without speaking any Portuguese, irrespective of how much money you're willing to shed out.
Vagabundo1
05-13-22, 15:57
Hemingway wrote in English and used Portuguese for the biblical swear words!
Yesterday vagabundo called callsign homegirl Anne amari Deborah which is not her name, and since I came a little inside of her despite shooting most jatos no meu pau 21 centimetros grosso no bunda dela porque eu Tira antes -- antes! -- eu gozei. Poxa caralho!
He said that? Then I must be an unsuccessful monger who has banged thousands of working girls over the last 5 decades.My curiosity, did you read the whole post? Or did you only read what you quoted?
JohnnyWalker55
05-14-22, 14:09
We hit a few casas near Darkroom, where Vagabundo found Noemie Bilas, and did a half hour for 80 r, and gave her a tip. Good BBFSCIP pop. Noemie Bilas wanted to do pernoite, but VB deferred to next week. Noemie Bilas is a Chocolateluvr pick from some centro patrols, and there was another super hot negra at the same spot..Any tips on BBFS? I read that you printed out your STD results and bring the copy, but where are the girls willing to fuder sem camisinha? Mostly VM? I had a couple at the prives last time but only after 3-4 sessions with them, and they wanted to do it. 80 k for BBFS is a dream, vagabundo! Drop some knowledge.
Went to darkroom yesterday, went with maya, or meier, idk how she pronounces it. The dirty blonde. Absolute firecracker. Been with 13 girls in 6 days so far, all the usual salas and prives.
Ill check out the av mem de sa 89 today. So far every one of them did 69/ beijo na boca. Fucking fantastic.
Prices are staying constant at 30 m, 100 reais, though it seems as if they might have gone up for the 10-15 min sessions, I remember them being 30 reais, now they're 50. Maybe I'm wrong. Anyways it's paradise, thanks for the help irmaos.
SameeRonaldo
05-14-22, 21:14
Hey,
Just came across a news about 4 x 4 on their own tweets. It was raided by Policia in April and arrests were done.
I read that prostitution is not illegal in Brazil but got confused after reading this news.
Can someone guide please?
Another Q about Massages-.
Thanks Vagabundo, others and Gparena for Reviews.
Are the Spa's or Massage places only for sex?
Or do the therapists also give you a good relaxing massage along with sexual fun?
I'm very much curious about Tantra & Nuru massages.
Please someone guide about Spa's & good prices.
Thanks a lot in advance!
Here's a look around the world at what's legal and what's illegal. If there was a raid at 4x4 (would not be the first time), then somebody must not have made the right payoff at the right time.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-where-prostitution-is-legal
Another Q about Massages-.
Thanks Vagabundo, others and Gparena for Reviews.
Are the Spa's or Massage places only for sex?
Or do the therapists also give you a good relaxing massage along with sexual fun?
I'm very much curious about Tantra & Nuru massages.I love massages too. Not into Nuru, although it feels nice, but Tantric done right is beyond fantastic. The problem is that 99% of so-called Tantric providers seem to confuse it with a hand job with some meditation music. I've only had TWO real Tantric massages in my life, both in very unlikely places (Hamburg and Siem Reap). But I must say, they landed me on the Moon.
But I digress.
Check my March report. I really liked Carol, a massagista in Tijuca. She's a nurse, and will know her way around your body. Good fuck too for a grand sum of 150.
There is Alice in Barra the Tijuca who's supposed to be great according to the reviews on gparena, but she was on vacation in March, so I didn't get to try her. Find her on gparena.net.
If you feel lazy, there is Copa Therapia on Nossa Senora, but that will set you back 300 Reals if I'm not confusing anything, and besides, FS is not allowed unlike with the previous two providers I mentioned.
Here's a look around the world at what's legal and what's illegal. If there was a raid at 4x4 (would not be the first time), then somebody must not have made the right payoff at the right time.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-where-prostitution-is-legalThis is what the Brazilian law says, translated by Google again; https://sergioluizbarroso.jusbrasil.com.br/noticias/311054835/prostituicao-e-crime.
Prostitution is constituted as the conscious exchange of sexual favors for money and, although it is a "profession" often seen as the last "solution" for those marginalized, it is not a criminal offense.
On the other hand, ruffianism, provided for by art. 230 of the Penal Code is a crime that consists of taking advantage of the prostitution of others, participating directly in its profits or being supported, in whole or in part, by those who exercise it.
Art. 230 - To take advantage of the prostitution of others, participating directly in its profits or being supported, in whole or in part, by those who exercise it:
Penalty. Imprisonment, from one to four years, and a fine.
1 If the victim is under 18 (eighteen) and over 14 (fourteen) years old or if the crime is committed by an ascendant, stepfather, stepmother, brother, stepchild, spouse, partner, tutor or curator, preceptor or employer of the victim, or by anyone who has assumed, by law or otherwise, an obligation of care, protection or surveillance:
Penalty. Imprisonment, from 3 (three) to 6 (six) years, and fine.
2 If the crime is committed through violence, serious threat, fraud or any other means that prevents or hinders the free expression of the victim's will:
Penalty. Imprisonment, from 2 (two) to 8 (eight) years, without prejudice to the penalty corresponding to violence.
This is what the Brazilian law says, translated by Google again; https://sergioluizbarroso.jusbrasil.com.br/noticias/311054835/prostituicao-e-crime.
Prostitution is constituted as the conscious exchange of sexual favors for money and, although it is a "profession" often seen as the last "solution" for those marginalized, it is not a criminal offense.
On the other hand, ruffianism, provided for by art. 230 of the Penal Code is a crime that consists of taking advantage of the prostitution of others, participating directly in its profits or being supported, in whole or in part, by those who exercise it.
Art. 230 - To take advantage of the prostitution of others, participating directly in its profits or being supported, in whole or in part, by those who exercise it:
Penalty. Imprisonment, from one to four years, and a fine.
1 If the victim is under 18 (eighteen) and over 14 (fourteen) years old or if the crime is committed by an ascendant, stepfather, stepmother, brother, stepchild, spouse, partner, tutor or curator, preceptor or employer of the victim, or by anyone who has assumed, by law or otherwise, an obligation of care, protection or surveillance:
Penalty. Imprisonment, from 3 (three) to 6 (six) years, and fine..Even in countries where prostitution is supposedly illegal it's absolutely thriving, such as in Canada, Russia, and the UAE: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-where-prostitution-is-legal.
SameeRonaldo
05-15-22, 17:01
Hey,
Thanks for the detailed replies on details about the legal aspects of it. I really appreciate that and just hope that it's safe for all of us.
Re. Massages & Fun -.
Cost for Massages is around 150 to 200 whereas in Clubs for FS + drinks. It is around 600.
Am I right?
It would be great if someone can help me about places and prices near Barra the tijuca.
Also I would love to team up / meet up the senior experts in nearby area for chat and drinks.
Thanks a lot all of you!!
JohnnyWalker55
05-15-22, 21:08
Any tips on BBFS? I read that you printed out your STD results and bring the copy, but where are the girls willing to fuder sem camisinha? Mostly VM? I had a couple at the prives last time but only after 3-4 sessions with them, and they wanted to do it. 80 k for BBFS is a dream, vagabundo! Drop some knowledge.
Went to darkroom yesterday, went with maya, or meier, idk how she pronounces it. The dirty blonde. Absolute firecracker. Been with 13 girls in 6 days so far, all the usual salas and prives.
Ill check out the av mem de sa 89 today. So far every one of them did 69/ beijo na boca. Fucking fantastic.
Prices are staying constant at 30 m, 100 reais, though it seems as if they might have gone up for the 10-15 min sessions, I remember them being 30 reais, now they're 50. Maybe I'm wrong. Anyways it's paradise, thanks for the help irmaos.Went to VM today. It was pretty empty but had some beers with this cute chick Andrea. Offered 50 and she scoffed LOL, she said gringos pay 100 even though we were speaking portugues the whole time. I offered 70 and she took it, we had good chemistry. She was probably in the top 5 tightest girl I've ever been with, out of hundreds tbh. Took a good 5 min to get it all the way in. My back is all scratched up as she was in a frenzy, but when I finished I looked down and the condom had broken LOL. I know I'm clean, she was worried so I guess she is too hahah. All in all VM is good for the weekends when every other place is closed and you don't want to pay a premium for a nice place, but not worth it during the week when you include cost of uber both ways, beer, etc. Just better to go to a prive. I thought it would be a lot cheaper tbh. I'm sure with the fuglys they take 50, but didn't ask. She was the best looking girl I saw there.
It would be great if someone can help me about places and prices near Barra the tijuca.
Thanks a lot all of you!!There's one member here who posts all the time and lives in Barra. Many of his posts reference the one place in Barra.
So my noob question is what are the going rates of massage parlours in Rio? Is the counter charges inclusive of extra services inside or they are separate. If extra services charges is separate then what are the usual rate for full service / sex.
Apologies for too many noobie questions. This is my first visit to Brazil and language is a big problem here.Going rate in Monte Carlo in Copacabana is about 125 dollars which may include some drinks and full service. Anything special you can discuss with the girl.
Vagabundo1
05-16-22, 03:25
What are the details on the 4 x 4 police raid?
Hey,
Just came across a news about 4 x 4 on their own tweets. It was raided by Policia in April and arrests were done.
I read that prostitution is not illegal in Brazil but got confused after reading this news.
Can someone guide please?
Another Q about Massages-.
Thanks Vagabundo, others and Gparena for Reviews.
Are the Spa's or Massage places only for sex?
Or do the therapists also give you a good relaxing massage along with sexual fun?
Vagabundo1
05-16-22, 03:27
Thanks yeah, nice legal research! Codes and law citations please!?
Please connect with Nounce or Jimmyboy for help with barra.
Hey,
Thanks for the detailed replies on details about the legal aspects of it. I really appreciate that and just hope that it's safe for all of us.
Re. Massages & Fun -.
Cost for Massages is around 150 to 200 whereas in Clubs for FS + drinks. It is around 600.
Am I right?
It would be great if someone can help me about places and prices near Barra the tijuca.
Also I would love to team up / meet up the senior experts in nearby area for chat and drinks.
Thanks a lot all of you!!
Vagabundo1
05-16-22, 03:56
At what price? Compared to Rio.
Good information.
Even in countries where prostitution is supposedly illegal it's absolutely thriving, such as in Canada, Russia, and the UAE: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-where-prostitution-is-legal.
SameeRonaldo
05-16-22, 15:46
Hey Vagabundo,
Thanks for reply.
I'm not sure about the sections of laws charges against the 4 x 4. I just read the update on their Tweets - https://twitter.com/4x4Whiskeria/status/1515440255771586567?t=hZvLUPZOdaGyRQiEOUM_XA&s.
That made me worry about the safety of customers and legal aspects as a customer.
What are the details on the 4 x 4 police raid?
Before I go any farther, I want to reiterate that this lady is GDP and would be perfectly content with short time dates too. I'm just going to recount my experience with her, and you can draw your own conclusions about how my priorities factor in here.
The other thing that I'd like to note is that I speak pretty good Portuguese so I can't tell you how limited her English is. I think she's up to par on professional terms as to the rest I just wouldn't know since our communication was in Portuguese sprinkled with occasional 'honey', 'baby', and 'blow job'. BTW, anyone knows how to say 'lazy dog' in Portuguese?
I met this girl on my first day back to Brazil after almost 10-year absence as I was literally passing through Mab's. If by then I knew of Vagabundo's guide to Rio I probably would've read it or at least scanned through it, and we probably would've never met. It sure would've been her loss but it would've been my loss too. Because if it wouldn't be for waking up to this beaming face on our trip to Bouzios and beyond, my stay there would be much emptier and less eventful than it ended up being. Talking about money well spent.
No, I'm not particularly into black girls, and I actually prefer 150 cm (4'9") spinners to a chick of my height and body type but this. This sure was special.
By the time I saw Susy that night I already took pretty mulatta (or Morena, as I soon realized your perception of those terms largely depends on your own racial make-up), named Flavia to my room at the Othon Palace so as far as I was concerned, I was basically done for the night, especially after pretty much exhausting myself in the jungle of Suriname (see my report on mongering in Suriname in the Suriname section).
Susy was standing a bit out of sight in relation to Mab's, so I didn't notice her until I was already crossing Prado Junior. We made fleeting eye contact and she predictably smiled (they usually do). I already crossed to the other side of the street but there was something about that smile that made me spin 180°. I went straight for her and said that I wouldn't be taking her with me today but will call her later if she gave me her number. She appeared predictably skeptical and tried to change my mind, but it wasn't happening.
Few days later I indeed called. By then I already moved out of Othon palace to an awesome Airbnb with a balcony to die for! I was on the 10th floor, the view to the beach was a wow, and I managed to get lost in my new apartment soon after moving in by trying to exit through the bathroom instead of where the door was.
Soon she showed up and I (or rather 'we') never looked back. Wow, what a girl. Susy is a typical woman from comunidade (sort of like favela but on the flat surface) but in many ways not typical at all. By no means Susy is a small woman but there is zero aggression in her at all! She would tell me later that her friends would tease her that she wouldn't push back: 'Come on,' they'd say, 'you're pretty imposing looking black mama! How come you avoid arguing so much!' We all know girls from favela. They can be pretty firm when need to be. Not this one. I saw her regularly while I was in Rio and later in Bouzios and Arraial where we spend over a week in very close quarters. There was not a single argument, imagine that? Sure, it takes two to tango but still. Once, while still in Rio I was trying to persuade her to take something of mine home and raised my voice a bit and she exclaimed 'please don't fight with me!' and we weren't even arguing let alone 'fighting'!
All throughout our trip to Bouzios and Arraial she participated in all the crazy activities that I'the drug ourselves into (how can you almost get yourself killed in Bouzios out of all places? Which I know for a fact that many Brasileiras, whether GDP or not (have ample experience with both), would refuse outright to take part in. She managed to conquer her fear of the rough open sea in the small motor boat, and at some point, even turned my occasional nagging about completing her hikes on me and began pushing me up the mountain. I quickly grew to trust Susy with my money and things. I'd tell her to take so much to do this and that and she would always bring what she didn't spent back. She would always insist on taking the lead when she thought that my being a gringo would cause me additional hassle and expense and would readily disappear if she thought that her presence could impede me in some way. After all a white gringo and a local Negra make it all but transparent, eh?
Here I'd like to take a sidestep and make a race-related comment especially for the black mongers that come to Brazil for a short stay. Negro in Portuguese is not offensive while 'preto' which in Portuguese means 'black' is. I realize that it would take a bit getting used to but that's how it is. I wish some black hobbyists that live here in Brazil would back me up on that. BTW, the same goes for Russia and many other countries.
Don't worry people I'm getting there. LOL Susy sure knows her way in the sack too. If you're like me, and you enjoy French kissing but don't appreciate when a woman is consistently trying to examine your throat with her hard tongue then you would have hard time finding a better kisser in Rio than Susy. I think I only met two women in my life that kiss as well as she does. Her full lips only add to the sensation. Plus, this woman really loves to kiss, just as you probably guessed do I, so from that perspective we both hit a bullseye.
Susy is a dynamite in bed. I know many Brasileiras are too, but this chick really feels it. She'd take it any way you want it, and with a smile, and chances are, would be willing to try new things if you have anything to propose in that regard.
One of the highlights of our trip was Susy's perpetual search for another woman to join us. While in Rio she tried to set me up with at least two of her GFs but there just wasn't enough time. On the road, it felt at times that every single woman she sees she thinks is GDP and needs to be asked if she'd be willing to play with us. When I would make a comment about this, Susy would invariably respond that she knows how her colleagues feel, walk & talk better than I do, something that I had hard time countering. She also insisted that while she is fine with me making a choice, she should be the one to make the initial contact to ensure that a woman is simpatica and not too professional. I mean, hell, would anyone really oppose that?
My small obsession was getting a blonde to join us on my birthday which fell on our time in Arraial. If anyone knows anything about Arraial do Cabo he'd know that there is a very limited choice of GDP there. In fact, there is very limited choice of anything there besides beautiful beaches. The choice is much greater half-and-hour drive away in Cabo Frio but in Arraial itself it's nada or rather quasi nada. So that woman befriends a bored Argentine loira, a civi, not even a GDP, in the building's swimming pool and convinces her to come to our place for my birthday. We laugh a little, we dance a little, we drink a little and wow, that sure was a birthday to remember!
When it was time to part, I gave Susy twice the amount of money that I promised to give her at the onset of our trip. Sue me.
SameeRonaldo
05-17-22, 11:34
Bom DIA.
Is anyone attending the Hots & Cucks party on this Thursday night?
Or any other swinger's party?
Please share your experiences and if it's worth going there as a Single male.
The charges are be $ 390 for single men.
I quickly grew to trust Susy with my money and things. I'd tell her to take so much to do this and that and she would always bring what she didn't spent back. She would always insist on taking the lead when she thought that my being a gringo would cause me additional hassle and expense and would readily disappear if she thought that her presence could impede me in some way. After all a white gringo and a local Negra make it all but transparent, eh?.You seem to be an experienced monger, but please do NOT trust Brazilian or any Latin American girls with your money. Maybe Susy is one rare, unblemished diamond, but stay with Brazilian girls long enough (especially if she gets it into her head that you've crossed her somehow), and they'll come up with a customized scam designed especially for you.
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Mr Enternational
05-17-22, 23:07
Here I'd like to take a sidestep and make a race-related comment especially for the black mongers that come to Brazil for a short stay. Negro in Portuguese is not offensive while 'preto' which in Portuguese means 'black' is. I realize that it would take a bit getting used to but that's how it is. I wish some black hobbyists that live here in Brazil would back me up on that.I am not sure where you learned that, but it is far from true. Calling a Black person Preto or Preta is a term of endearment. That is one of the first things I learned in Portuguese over 20 years ago. I am Black so maybe it is a Black thing and works the same way as in the States. A Black person can say WhatsUp Black to another Black person and it is all love. If a White person says that to a Black person it may go a different way.
Don't know if I can recall being called Preto in Brazil by someone that is not Black though. Many times I will be called Negao (Big Black Dude) by people that are not Black. So maybe we are both right. It could be a matter of perspective and depends on who is saying what to whom.
You seem to be an experienced monger, but please do NOT trust Brazilian or any Latin American girls with your money. Maybe Susy is one rare, unblemished diamond, but stay with Brazilian girls long enough (especially if she gets it into her head that you've crossed her somehow), and they'll come up with a customized scam designed especially for you.I don't and I wouldn't recommend anyone to do so but sometimes leaving small amount of money out in the open would tell you everything you want to know about a person at (possibly) small price, especially if you're consider taking them with you on the long trip where hiding places are few but potential for grab and dash are many.
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Mr Enternational
05-17-22, 23:35
However, the n-word in Russia, pronounced the same as in the States, is a very deliberate insult exactly as it is here.Damn sure is. I have only been called that twice in my life and one was one night in Moscow when I asked a 20 year old girl at a bus stop if there was an internet cafe close by. It was like she had been practicing her whole life to say it to someone. No idea why she took me asking for directions so harshly. Soon this drunk guy, Alex, with his wife stumbled along and was happy to help me. But he mistook me saying internet cafe for ATM. He was trying to hang out with me after showing me to the ATM, but his wife was busy cussing him out trying to get him to come on.
I am not sure where you learned that, but it is far from true. Calling a Black person Preto or Preta is a term of endearment. That is one of the first things I learned in Portuguese over 20 years ago. I am Black so maybe it is a Black thing and works the same way as in the States. A Black person can say WhatsUp Black to another Black person and it is all love. If a White person says that to a Black person it may go a different way.
Don't know if I can recall being called Preto in Brazil by someone that is not Black though. Many times I will be called Negao (Big Black Dude) by people that are not Black. So maybe we are both right. It could be a matter of perspective and depends on who is saying what to whom.The one thing I've learned in Brazil is to let the girl self-identify. One girl might call herself a mulata and another girl with the same complexion will not. It's not like I go around saying "hey mulata, want to come back to my place?
Newbies are probably best advised to stay off this topic with girls unless they bring it up.
Damn sure is. I have only been called that twice in my life and one was one night in Moscow when I asked a 20 year old girl at a bus stop if there was an internet cafe close by. It was like she had been practicing her whole life to say it to someone. No idea why she took me asking for directions so harshly. Soon this drunk guy, Alex, with his wife stumbled along and was happy to help me. But he mistook me saying internet cafe for ATM. He was trying to hang out with me after showing me to the ATM, but his wife was busy cussing him out trying to get him to come on.It's actually not always meant to be an insult (although it sounds really bad to an American ear). It's colloquial Russian for a black person (sounds just as bad in German by the way). More formal Russian for a black person from America would be "Afroamerikanets" or "Afroamerikanski", depending on who is saying it (you might hear either).
Lover Boy #2
05-18-22, 04:20
I am not sure where you learned that, but it is far from true. Calling a Black person Preto or Preta is a term of endearment. That is one of the first things I learned in Portuguese over 20 years ago. I am Black so maybe it is a Black thing and works the same way as in the States. A Black person can say WhatsUp Black to another Black person and it is all love. If a White person says that to a Black person it may go a different way.
Don't know if I can recall being called Preto in Brazil by someone that is not Black though. Many times I will be called Negao (Big Black Dude) by people that are not Black. So maybe we are both right. It could be a matter of perspective and depends on who is saying what to whom.The negative term used in southern Brasil is crioulo. It doesn't seem that it should be negative. But is.
I don't and I wouldn't recommend anyone to do so but sometimes leaving small amount of money out in the open would tell you everything you want to know about a person at (possibly) small price, especially if you're consider taking them with you on the long trip where hiding places are few but potential for grab and dash are many I concur with this.
When I was out with Harley from SP in rio I really didn't worry about hiding any money or my stuff from her. She never asked for anything and even when I did pay for food and other small stuff she would try to tell me not to. When we stayed in our Airbnb in arraial she told me to hide my money and keep it locked up or something.
I am definitely not the type of guy to trust anyone in fact every time I session with a GDP in my apartment or hotel I always take a quick shower after the deed because I'm always skeptical that they might get curious and go through my luggage or backpack although so far none have but it's always on the back of my mind.
Had a buddy of mine who almost got his Rolex stolen but he figured it out before she left and got it back from her purse before she ran out the door with a BS excuse.
So it's definitely a possibility.
But after you see a girl several times and you get to know them you can make up your decision and use your best judgment because it's great to have a girl you can just relax and honestly not worry about anything with.
Brazilian girls have a very relaxed attitude and really seem to put priority of having a good time over money as many of us have read how some girls charge way less for some guys or refuses to accept their money afterwards. And they really need it with their undervalued money.
Girls from more prosperous countries like the USA or the such I've heard so many thieving stories as I believe they want as much as they can get and use that to buy more stuff from our consumer driven mindset that's always selling us happiness for a price tag. Brazilian girls are materialistic as well but I feel they value a good time and experience over potentially getting some extra cash.
The girl my friend was going to get robbed from was from Miami.
ThatDudeThere
05-18-22, 07:17
I concur with this.
When I was out with Harley from SP in rio I really didn't worry about hiding any money or my stuff from her. She never asked for anything and even when I did pay for food and other small stuff she would try to tell me not to. When we stayed in our Airbnb in arraial she told me to hide my money and keep it locked up or something.
I am definitely not the type of guy to trust anyone in fact every time I session with a GDP in my apartment or hotel I always take a quick shower after the deed because I'm always skeptical that they might get curious and go through my luggage or backpack although so far none have but it's always on the back of my mind.
Had a buddy of mine who almost got his Rolex stolen but he figured it out before she left and got it back from her purse before she ran out the door with a BS excuse.
So it's definitely a possibility.
But after you see a girl several times and you get to know them you can make up your decision and use your best judgment because it's great to have a girl you can just relax and honestly not worry about anything with.
Brazilian girls have a very relaxed attitude and really seem to put priority of having a good time over money as many of us have read how some girls charge way less for some guys or refuses to accept their money afterwards. And they really need it with their undervalued money.
Girls from more prosperous countries like the USA or the such I've heard so many thieving stories as I believe they want as much as they can get and use that to buy more stuff from our consumer driven mindset that's always selling us happiness for a price tag. Brazilian girls are materialistic as well but I feel they value a good time and experience over potentially getting some extra cash.
The girl my friend was going to get robbed from was from Miami.I agree that in my experience Brazilian girls are more trustworthy and just want to have fun as compared to Colombians who are always only thinking about money and even a girl you spent days with you usually can't trust because she will try to rob you still.
You mention undervalued money in Brazil. The Real is the best performing currency globally year to date in 2022, I wish you were right.
The negative term used in southern Brasil is crioulo. It doesn't seem that it should be negative. But is.Can't we all just get along?
Can't we all just get along?LOLOLOL! LMAO! Hahaha!
FlowState985
05-18-22, 23:34
Met Vagabundo in centro and he showed me around all day. Great guy, very observant. Learned a lot about his modus operandi.
We start out the day around 12 and went to Dark Room. There were about 4 available, mostly morena / mulata from thin to a bit thick.
Afterward, we moved to Central Station and got a few sims. I ended up getting one for 16 are without having to use any ID. Easy peasy, wish I had his guidance when I first came to Rio, which would've save me so much time trying to get a sim card.
Then heading north on metro to VM. Exit left to VM and right to Tijuca. I walked the street with Vagabundo and it felt safe, maybe because there was daylight. There were SWs from the metro towards VM. At VM, we walked about and Vaga collected numbers of the girls he liked and then ended up sessioned a girl while I waited for him having a beer. VM is pretty much what everyone described, grimy and dirty. Some girls are decent looking, but not my cup of tea.
We then ubered back to his place in Barra the Tijuca. He cooked salmon and rice for dinner while we chill until another member join us (Ptg) for Paris Cafe and Perola Negra.
Around 9 PM we headed to Paris Cafe, but on the way our uber driver showed us location of SWs towards Paris Cafe. Vagabundo ended with several numbers for next time. Paris Cafe (30 are cover) had some decent looking girl around 9 PM, I didn't session there (450 r / HR) but got a number. I actually talked to her today and she quoted me 400 r / HR or 700 r / HR with anal at my place. Going to skip.
Afterward around 12 AM, we got to Perola Negra, a lot more girls here, maybe because it was later? Cover is 30 r. From my understanding, the girls quote their own price and our friend Ptg got quoted at 650 are / HR. Ptg and I thought it was way too much for the talents here.
It was a great day in Rio, because it was a great tour from Vagabundo. This was my first time ever going to Barra. The area looks nice. There are a few prives / clinicas there, ranging 250 are / HR to 300 are / HR if you stay there and don't want to go to centro. If it is your first time in Rio, reach out to Vagabundo and ask him to show you around.
Preto can used to describe an object, like a car or shirt or as a term of endearment. Preto can also be used as a racist term.
Negro is used to describe a human being, not an object. For example, my patricinha girlfriend always calls me "Negao Gostoso". LOL.
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05-19-22, 07:57
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SameeRonaldo
05-19-22, 08:00
Ola!
Bom DIA.
Is there any Spa or Massagist or place which is open late around 10 pm or later?
I'm planning to go for a massage as soon as I land in Rio tonight.
Please recommend some massage therapists on Gparena or some Spa.
Obrigado!
Preto can used to describe an object, like a car or shirt or as a term of endearment. Preto can also be used as a racist term.
Negro is used to describe a human being, not an object. For example, my patricinha girlfriend always calls me "Negao Gostoso". LOL.True, but I've often heard girls being affectionately referred to as and called, “Pretinha".
True, but I've often heard girls being affectionately referred to as and called, Pretinha".Yes, like I wrote earlier, it can be used as both a term of endearment or as a racist slur. It all depends on the Inflection and Tone of voice you use.
JohnnyWalker55
05-19-22, 21:02
Been doing the centro prives everyday. Usually once around noon and then again around 5-6 pm. The talent is really good. I mean really good, especially for 20 min 50 reais. Sofia at 2304 could literally be an IG model.
And all of them have been GFE, DATY, BBBJ is a given, etc. Paradise. Not one bad egg. One girl at galaxia was very timid, but small talk breaks the hard outer shell some of these pros have. At the "nicer" prives I get 30 min sessions to build some more rapport. And I sessioned with the infamous Rebecca at dark room, she was great. Not an ounce of fat and pretty smile.
I always take one of the guys handing out fliers with me even though I know where the salas are, they get paid for bringing me up and give some good pointers about places, etc.
Been hitting VM every night also, don't go from 5-7 pm unless you want to sit in bumper to bumper traffic. It starts to get going around 8 pm. Very safe too IMO, but I don't really stand out at all so ymmv.
Been quoted anywhere from 40 r for the fuglys to 100 reais for the hottest girls there for a rato, but you can get most everything for 80 r. Half the time they don't even keep track of the time, especially if you make them gozar with oral.
I got ripped off actually, first time in about two years since a chick in Spain took 150 euros out of my shoe while I was showering, it was hidden too that time. Still not sure how she did it.
So yea I was high / drunk / coked out, and out of cash. Was with this Loira drinking fucking etc, went to get more blow as people doing blow always do. Ready for my big mistake?
I used a cartao jajaja. I literally never use card, ever. But again, I was very effed up, and instead of charging me 50 reais for the goodies the dealer charged me 500 reais.
And he was friendly too, me him and the garotas were drinking beer, smoking etc for like 20 min while I was buying.
I don't blame him tbh, I know the game. I was acting like a mark. If I were in his shoes selling drugs all day out of VM and a gringo is dumb enough to be out of his mind and use card, I would've added the extra zero too.
So that's a little lesson I put in my back pocket, it's only 100 bucks, it could've been a more expensive lesson in Vegas / Montreal / Europe.
I'll be going back to him too as his stuff is quality, but only using cash LOL.
Happy mongering folks.
Vagabundo1
05-20-22, 00:07
Good Report, some notes on 5/17.
Some notes:
It was a pretty good single day tour of the main points for mongering in Rio.
We met up at Starbucks Cinelandia second floor, a block from the US Consulate, Av Presidente wilson 147, where the luxury buses from the main Barra condos come.
12:38 PM, 5/17/2022 ISG Tdc985: Where are we meeting in Starbucks on second floor?
12:43 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Vagabundo is here.
12:43 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Badboy ahirt.
12:43 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Shirt.
We went by the store where there is the cheapest generic Viagra / Cialis, Uruguiana 19.
1:10 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Utuguiana 19.
The plan was to do the list below.
1:16 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Checklist.
1:16 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Darkroom.com.br.
1:16 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Msaasagemtijuca.com.br.
1:16 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Vm.
1:16 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Mosaico.
1:16 PM, 5/17/2022 J: 4×4.
1:16 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Perola negra.
1:16 PM, 5/17/2022 J: All via metro.
1:16 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Today.
1:17 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Hoorah swiss naval infantry naval special warfare.
1:27 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Going to central for chips.
1:27 PM, 5/17/2022 J: At darkroom: Laila. Negra, Manu Novo morena.
We did go to Darkroom. There is a new morena there, Manu. I like the set up best as there is a bar area to chill after or before a session and for your wingman to do the same.
1:28 PM, 5/17/2022 J: We go now to massagemtijuca.
2:02 PM, 5/17/2022 : Now that's an itinerary! Enjoy bros.
By 14 h we had headed into the Metro at Uruguiana. Flowstate got a Metro card, the purple card.
2:30 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Vagabundo and tdc are at central.
By 14 h30 we got to Central station. VIVO is the best card for coverage and costs 16 r. TIM cards can be had for 10 r.
2:31 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Meet us at vm.
2:31 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Casa 46.
2:51 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Vagabundo.
By 14 h50 we were at Vila Mimosa. We walked from Metro Sao Cristavao to are. Hilário Ribeiro, 243 – Praca the Bandeira, Rio de Janeiro – RJ, 20270-180. It is easy enough to google map the route. I suggest going there during the day and with a wingman for a first trip.
We walked by Mosaico, which was closed. While walking in we spotted Hotel Canario, which is a cheap sex motel which is recommended to get girls to.
2:56 PM, 5/17/2022 ISG Mimic86: Puta hunters on the move LOL.
3:09 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: We are at mosaico.
3:10 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: R. Hilário Ribeiro, 243 – Praca the Bandeira, Rio de Janeiro – RJ, 20270-180.
Map of mosaico night club Rio de Janeiro.
We walked through the infamous Vila Mimosa you. The talent such that it is, was not good. I did find a 19 year old who said she would BBFS. As I've discussed she is a Vila 7 -- with a little make up and some clothes, she'd be an 8, and often those same Vila girls will be at 4 x4 a week later, because the tier 1 termas do scout somehow. The same mongers who wouldn't go to Vila will fuck the same girls at 4 x 4. So, I showed her my clean tests, and she asked 150 r, which is only 30 US Dollars. The service was bad, just a short BBBJ, of course in the terrible tight rooms, but she did deliver BBFS, and I have to say, BBFS 19 year old pussy on a hot girl never really gets old, and makes it worthwhile. It's also good to blow a load at a prive. Prives are normally better, but I wanted to show flow state Vila.
4:06 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: BBFS 150 r in vm near casa 52.
4:06 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: 19.
4:06 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Campo grande.
4:07 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Blew a nut thinking of seka getting DP by Shane diesel and shorty mac.
4:07 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Haha.
4:07 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Vagabundo and tdc are at vm casa 52.
4:08 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: I'm going to start charging subscription to new members.
4:08 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Haha.
4:09 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: We are going back to centro.
We walked over to Motel Malaga. I have stayed at Motel Malaga pernoite, and it is near the tijuca prives, and pernoite is 115 reais. A good Barra hotel like Transamerica at the same pernoite price is better of course but Malaga is good to know as it is near Vila Mimosa and most importantly Mosaico.
The sex motels also have sala de espera, and they are secure places to call for uber and wait for uber.
4:36 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: We are going to perola negra.
We decided to go to Barra / Perola Negra.
5:01 PM, 5/17/2022 Jimmyboy99: Why are you going now? It doesn't open until 8 PM.
5:01 PM, 5/17/2022 To see barra.
As JimmyBoy pointed out, Perola negra was not open yet, so we went to Euro Rio Spa to check out the line up. The line up was good, but the really notable thing is the rooms were top notch, and some rooms even had hidromassagem.
5:04 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: EURO RIO SPA.
Av. Armando Lombardi, 800 – sala 330, Barra the Tijuca.
Rio de Janeiro – RJ.
(21) 3795-0976 / (21) 3579-3431 / (21) 97925-2359.
http://www.clinicaeuroriospa.com.br/
5:05 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: We are going to this prive.
5:14 PM, 5/17/2022: Then to olegario maciel 7.
5:14 PM, 5/17/2022: And perola negra.
5:14 PM, 5/17/2022: Thanks dad.
5:14 PM, 5/17/2022: Haha.
After checking out the line up at the Euro Barra Spa, we went back to my place for some dinner. Apart from my home cooking of salmon and rice, a good spot is also Barra Garden Sushi.
5:25 PM, 5/17/2022: I guess I was close too you guys. Entered some street with some transexuals and skinny working girls.
5:34 PM, 5/17/2022: Above vargas.
ISGer PTG was trying to catch up with us, and despite his native Porto skills, he apparently had some land navigation difficulties.
5:47 PM, 5/17/2022 : Vasco the Gama got himself a crush from tinder.
I'm sure I will be more keen on termas. The next year, after got my first divorce.
5:55 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: We are going to Transamerica until termas open. Eating at Transamerica, maybe at sushi garden barra.
6:02 PM, 5/17/2022: Vagabundo is a uncaring selfish bastard.
6:02 PM, 5/17/2022: Kkk.
6:03 PM, 5/17/2022: I just want bare teenage female vagina spread eagled so I can breed them anonymously.
8:36 PM, 5/17/2022: Ptg and flowstate and vagabundo are going to Paris at 21 h and then perola negra 23 h.
9:46 PM, 5/17/2022: Has suite hidromassagem.
After eating Vagabundo, PTG and Flowstate headed to Paris Cafe but we decided to check out some areas with street walkers, at Barra Posto 9-11 on the street.
10:13 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Barra POSTO 9 – 11 good street walkers.
The best looking girl of the day may have been a certain slim redhead (ruiva) who was on this stretch of road. Coulda woulda shoulda -- shoulda taken her to the nearby love motel. Got to be flexible and always ready.
10:42 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Paris has 15 girls. Some 8+ .
By 10 h42, we got to Paris Cafe. I noted that there were 15 girls many 8+. You have to keep moving. Vagabundo got numbers. At centro prives, at Vila, at the street in Barra, at Paris.
10:44 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Good sw in recreio on coastal street between p9 and 11.
10:44 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: BSW 7+.
10:44 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Redhead sw 8+.
10:44 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: 18.
10:48 PM, 5/17/2022 ISG Mimic86: Any big bundas?
10:49 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Sim.
10:56 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Street walker top talent.
10:58 PM, 5/17/2022 : That's a street walker? I need to walk on more streets.
11:29 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Paris has swing sabado 20 h – 05 h.
11:30 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Have to bring girl to enter swing party.
11:40 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: 4 June swing party at paris.
11:40 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Singles can enter for 250.
11:57 PM, 5/17/2022 : 310 reais 40 minute in paris.
The cost is 310 reais for 40 minutes at Paris Cafe.
We then went to Olegario Maciel 7, got out, and walked around and had some pasteis at Bar do Adao. This is a area where barravipsrio girls go to have tropical and gin and hash.
12:38 AM, 5/18/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Swing areas at paris.
1:16 AM, 5/18/2022 Professor Do Cinema: We are at perola negra.
By 01 h15, we three were at Perola Negra. I like that in the outside area you can smoke some ganja. The quality of the girls was really good, some 9+, even on a Tuesday. This had been my experience before just a month earlier. IMHO, Perola Negra continues to be the best Terma in Brazil.
1:32 AM, 5/18/2022 Professor Do Cinema: At perola 30 girls some 8+.
1:32 AM, 5/18/2022 Professor Do Cinema: 40 minutes 270 r.
The cost is $270 reais for 40 minutes at Perola negra. PTG said some girls were asking much higher, but I don't think that's right. I had girls who were just as good if not better than the girls he was talking to and the cost was $270 r for 40 minutes.
1:47 AM, 5/18/2022 Professor Do Cinema: I will send around the vagabundo update to the bubba boy guide with the interview with vagabundos questions.
We probably left Perola Negra at 03 h or later. It was a good night.
Below is Bubba Boy's Interview process with Vagabundo's take on the interview.
The screening process / How to Get Bareback in Rio:
It is very important to get a good feeling with a girl. I always ask the following questions and listen to the response. I ask the questions with a smile and try to make her laugh a bit; if she thinks you are fun she will usually reciprocate.
My (BB's) questions:
1) Are you good in bed? She will of course say she is the best. This is the icebreaker, a chance for her to relax and loosen up.
2) Why are you the best? What do you do? This is a more serious question, hopefully she will offer up exactly what she will be like in the sack. I will let her answer a bit, and if she doesn't offer up what I want to hear I will then directly ask.
3) Do you do everything? Again I will let her speak and watch very carefully for the response. If she says she does do anal, I will then ask if she likes it and carefully watch for her answer, if she says she really likes it and smiles, well then I am thinking you are going to have a good time.
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The above 3 questions will give her a chance to tell you what she likes and what she doesn't like. Usually the above the questions are enough to get her to say whether she does anal or not, without you having to explicitly ask. If she hasn't offered whether she does it or not then I will then explicitly ask. The way she answers is more important than what she actually says. If she says, "I do anal but it depends on how big your are", well that is a red flag, more than likely she doesn't want to do it (and when you get to that point in the room, she will say "Your dick is too big! Again if you have a fetish for CIM and she says "I will let you do it if you only have a very clean dick", again a red flag, good chance she is going to turn her head away during the money shot. On the other hand if she says "I will do everything you want, baby" and says it with a smile, then sticks her tongue down your throat, then that is a very positive thing and you are probably in for some serious fun.
VB's questions:
1. Vc ten filhos? Do you have kids? The correct answer is no because it is easier to get her for pernoite.
Pernoite is my plan because my pro forma week is pernoite 3-4 times, for sex daily (sometimes I.
Take Saturday's off with Temple, and to drill with the Swiss consulate active duty Naval Infantry).
2. Onde vc mora? Where do you live? The correct answer is not a favela because I want to be able to.
Visit her. For example, Meier is not a favela, and actually a middle class 'hood where it is safe, near North Shopping, and easily accessible by bus 457 from Copa. You as a man want a relationship with a woman who you can fuck and shit shower shave supper and sleep at her place because it is more intimate, and you want more intimate sex as it is better sex. But I do not want to go to a outright favela.
3. Vc transa sem camisinha? Sou limpio. Do you fuck (vaginally) without condom. I am clean. I want to BBFSCIP or BBFSCIA (cum in ass, which may be preferable for birth control, as pregnancy is the ultimate STD). Yes, get tested, get her tested (tier 1 termas test, that is part of what you are paying for, so do tier 1 prives, again, the clientele is paying for a clean girl). I want it raw. If you use condoms, I recommend the local brand, SKYN.
I will also look for negative signs, including;.
If the first thing a girl asks is "buy me a drink" I will be immediately on the defensive; if she is anything less than smoking hot she will be dumped immediately. Yeah I want to buy a girl a drink, but only after a few questions and only after I have decided there is a good chance I am going to take her to the cabine.
If when offered a drink, the girl tries to order the most fucking expensive thing on the menu, then that is a huge negative thing. I will always ask, "what would you like to drink", I will order for her. Doing this shows you are not an easy target. Red Bull and a mixed drink together from a girl I have just met, are $ 25-50+, is taking the piss. On the other hand an ex "Brazilian girlfriend", ordered just that when we met, I was with a buddy and he was with her friend, what saved her was the following – she says "I know red bulls and vodka are expensive, but if you buy one red bull, we can order 2 vodkas separately (between the 2 girls) and that will be a little cheaper. " I don't mind buying an "expensive drink" for a girl, I can afford it. I just don't like the idea of being taken for a mug. There were also a few other positive things which led us to relax a little, we knew we were going to have a good time with those 2; sometimes everything just clicks and it did!
No kissing with tongue before going to the cabine: Just before I go to the cabine I will make sure she kisses passionately, I don't particularly want to kiss a girl with tongue in the main Boate, but I do want to know if she is passionate. If she does not use tongue it is a sign she is not going to be passionate -- a big enough negative to ditch her in some cases. In the cheaper places they won't kiss passionately in the Boate, they are used to Brazilian guys that will kick a lot of tyres first. Once they know you are serious, they will be a lot more liberal.
Additionally: I always make sure you get a good look at the girl. Sometimes lighting can be a bit ordinary. Sometimes a girl looks completely different when sitting down, particularly in Brazil, when you really need to look at the complete package while standing. Another friend of mine was sitting with a girl, and she did look cute. When he decided to take her to the room, she gets up and says, "So, you like a girl with a big ass, do you?" . . . To his horror he looked down and saw a massive Bunda (ass). This catch phrase has become part of our vocabulary, as in when a friend says, "what do you think of this babe?" to which you reply, "so, you like a girl with a big ass?" (I. E, her ass is a bit on the heavy side).
Met Vagabundo in centro and he showed me around all day. Great guy, very observant. Learned a lot about his modus operandi.
We start out the day around 12 and went to Dark Room. There were about 4 available, mostly morena / mulata from thin to a bit thick.
Afterward, we moved to Central Station and got a few sims. I ended up getting one for 16 are without having to use any ID. Easy peasy, wish I had his guidance when I first came to Rio, which would've save me so much time trying to get a sim card.
Then heading north on metro to VM. Exit left to VM and right to Tijuca. I walked the street with Vagabundo and it felt safe, maybe because there was daylight. There were SWs from the metro towards VM. At VM, we walked about and Vaga collected numbers of the girls he liked and then ended up sessioned a girl while I waited for him having a beer. VM is pretty much what everyone described, grimy and dirty. Some girls are decent looking, but not my cup of tea..
AndreSingle
05-20-22, 13:11
Where is this party going to happen? 2 a2 club? Asha?
This Friday there will be a very nice swinger party in Mistura Certa swing clube. Its in Centro, close to Central station. It will be one of the organizers birthday along with some other people. On February I went to this same clube for another party and it was really crowded, with a line of people outside to get in. It was crazy.
Bom DIA.
Is anyone attending the Hots & Cucks party on this Thursday night?
Or any other swinger's party?
Please share your experiences and if it's worth going there as a Single male.
The charges are be $ 390 for single men.
Yes, like I wrote earlier, it can be used as both a term of endearment or as a racist slur. It all depends on the Inflection and Tone of voice you use.Frankly, addressing anyone by the color of their skin is offensive whether it be negra, pretinha, creolla, mullatta or branca.
Been doing the centro prives everyday. Usually once around noon and then again around 5-6 pm. The talent is really good. I mean really good, especially for 20 min 50 reais. Sofia at 2304 could literally be an IG model......Rio is beginning to sound particularly encouraging.
Frankly addressing anyone by the color of their skin is offensive whether it be negra, pretinha, creolla, mullatta or branca.It's a cultural thing. But that doesn't mean that we always have to accept it. One time when I was in Costa Rica, a tute casually approached me and said in Spanish, "Negro do you have a cigarette"? I angrily responded (also in Spanish), "My name is not negro! My name is Cane!" Ha, I didn't actually use "Cane", but you get my drift LOL! Her response was, "I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry! I don't know your culture"! I just wasn't in a mood where I wasn't feeling that. Maybe it was a learning experience for her.
Then I recall the time that I was watching some kind of Spanish-language program out of Caracas on TV. There was a host, and like three co-hosts, one of those being a black female. The host introduced the three co-hosts, calling two of them by their first names (like Juan and Elena for example), but then he shockingly introduced the black woman as just "negra", as if she didn't have a first name! Their culture or not, I found that to be pretty offensive and a marginalization of another human being by only introducing her based on her skin color (and she's just beaming away), while everybody else on the stage had a name. Wow.
Frankly, addressing anyone by the color of their skin is offensive whether it be negra, pretinha, creolla, mullatta or branca.I disagree. Like Bravo said, it's all in the delivery and tone.
I'm often called "branquinho lindo", and I like it. 😉
I disagree. Like Bravo said, it's all in the delivery and tone.
I'm often called "branquinho lindo", and I like it.I agree 100% with Balboa. I don't get offended when somebody calls me branquinho. Why should I?
I think it's just the gringos who take this seriously. My Brazilian friends are a a mixture of black skin color, brown, indians and white. Nobody is offended if I call them words related to their skin color or what could be considered their origin. In Brazil discrimination it's not only about the skin color, but also about their origin. To some people it could be an insult to be called "paraíba" or nordestino. Some might be insulted and others would be proud of their origin.
If somebody really want to insult somebody they would use stronger words, like "carvão".
Lover Boy #2
05-21-22, 02:25
Can't we all just get along?We can. Should. But unfortunately don't. Humans have been doing some form of selection since the beginning. It's not good.
Vagabundo1
05-21-22, 05:06
https://youtu.be/sbsvkGG9slM
Great video of beach at Perola Negra.
Good Report, some notes on 5/17.
Some notes:
It was a pretty good single day tour of the main points for mongering in Rio.
We met up at Starbucks Cinelandia second floor, a block from the US Consulate, Av Presidente wilson 147, where the luxury buses from the main Barra condos come.
12:38 PM, 5/17/2022 ISG Tdc985: Where are we meeting in Starbucks on second floor?
12:43 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Vagabundo is here.
12:43 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Badboy ahirt.
12:43 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Shirt.
We went by the store where there is the cheapest generic Viagra / Cialis, Uruguiana 19.
1:10 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Utuguiana 19.
The plan was to do the list below.
1:16 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Checklist.
1:16 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Darkroom.com.br.
1:16 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Msaasagemtijuca.com.br.
1:16 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Vm.
1:16 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Mosaico.
1:16 PM, 5/17/2022 J: 44.
1:16 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Perola negra.
1:16 PM, 5/17/2022 J: All via metro.
1:16 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Today.
1:17 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Hoorah swiss naval infantry naval special warfare.
1:27 PM, 5/17/2022 J: Going to central for chips.
1:27 PM, 5/17/2022 J: At darkroom: Laila. Negra, Manu Novo morena.
We did go to Darkroom. There is a new morena there, Manu. I like the set up best as there is a bar area to chill after or before a session and for your wingman to do the same.
1:28 PM, 5/17/2022 J: We go now to massagemtijuca.
2:02 PM, 5/17/2022 : Now that's an itinerary! Enjoy bros.
By 14 h we had headed into the Metro at Uruguiana. Flowstate got a Metro card, the purple card.
2:30 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Vagabundo and tdc are at central.
By 14 h30 we got to Central station. VIVO is the best card for coverage and costs 16 r. TIM cards can be had for 10 r.
2:31 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Meet us at vm.
2:31 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Casa 46.
2:51 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Vagabundo.
By 14 h50 we were at Vila Mimosa. We walked from Metro Sao Cristavao to are. Hilrio Ribeiro, 243 Praca the Bandeira, Rio de Janeiro RJ, 20270-180. It is easy enough to google map the route. I suggest going there during the day and with a wingman for a first trip.
We walked by Mosaico, which was closed. While walking in we spotted Hotel Canario, which is a cheap sex motel which is recommended to get girls to.
2:56 PM, 5/17/2022 ISG Mimic86: Puta hunters on the move LOL.
3:09 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: We are at mosaico.
3:10 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: R. Hilrio Ribeiro, 243 Praca the Bandeira, Rio de Janeiro RJ, 20270-180.
Map of mosaico night club Rio de Janeiro.
We walked through the infamous Vila Mimosa you. The talent such that it is, was not good. I did find a 19 year old who said she would BBFS. As I've discussed she is a Vila 7 -- with a little make up and some clothes, she'd be an 8, and often those same Vila girls will be at 4 x4 a week later, because the tier 1 termas do scout somehow. The same mongers who wouldn't go to Vila will fuck the same girls at 4 x 4. So, I showed her my clean tests, and she asked 150 r, which is only 30 US Dollars. The service was bad, just a short BBBJ, of course in the terrible tight rooms, but she did deliver BBFS, and I have to say, BBFS 19 year old pussy on a hot girl never really gets old, and makes it worthwhile. It's also good to blow a load at a prive. Prives are normally better, but I wanted to show flow state Vila.
4:06 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: BBFS 150 r in vm near casa 52.
4:06 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: 19.
4:06 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Campo grande.
4:07 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Blew a nut thinking of seka getting DP by Shane diesel and shorty mac.
4:07 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Haha.
4:07 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Vagabundo and tdc are at vm casa 52.
4:08 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: I'm going to start charging subscription to new members.
4:08 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Haha.
4:09 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: We are going back to centro.
We walked over to Motel Malaga. I have stayed at Motel Malaga pernoite, and it is near the tijuca prives, and pernoite is 115 reais. A good Barra hotel like Transamerica at the same pernoite price is better of course but Malaga is good to know as it is near Vila Mimosa and most importantly Mosaico.
The sex motels also have sala de espera, and they are secure places to call for uber and wait for uber.
4:36 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: We are going to perola negra.
We decided to go to Barra / Perola Negra.
5:01 PM, 5/17/2022 Jimmyboy99: Why are you going now? It doesn't open until 8 PM.
5:01 PM, 5/17/2022 To see barra.
As JimmyBoy pointed out, Perola negra was not open yet, so we went to Euro Rio Spa to check out the line up. The line up was good, but the really notable thing is the rooms were top notch, and some rooms even had hidromassagem.
5:04 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: EURO RIO SPA.
Av. Armando Lombardi, 800 sala 330, Barra the Tijuca.
Rio de Janeiro RJ.
(21) 3795-0976 / (21) 3579-3431 / (21) 97925-2359.
http://www.clinicaeuroriospa.com.br/
5:05 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: We are going to this prive.
5:14 PM, 5/17/2022: Then to olegario maciel 7.
5:14 PM, 5/17/2022: And perola negra.
5:14 PM, 5/17/2022: Thanks dad.
5:14 PM, 5/17/2022: Haha.
After checking out the line up at the Euro Barra Spa, we went back to my place for some dinner. Apart from my home cooking of salmon and rice, a good spot is also Barra Garden Sushi.
5:25 PM, 5/17/2022: I guess I was close too you guys. Entered some street with some transexuals and skinny working girls.
5:34 PM, 5/17/2022: Above vargas.
ISGer PTG was trying to catch up with us, and despite his native Porto skills, he apparently had some land navigation difficulties.
5:47 PM, 5/17/2022 : Vasco the Gama got himself a crush from tinder.
I'm sure I will be more keen on termas. The next year, after got my first divorce.
5:55 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: We are going to Transamerica until termas open. Eating at Transamerica, maybe at sushi garden barra.
6:02 PM, 5/17/2022: Vagabundo is a uncaring selfish bastard.
6:02 PM, 5/17/2022: Kkk.
6:03 PM, 5/17/2022: I just want bare teenage female vagina spread eagled so I can breed them anonymously.
8:36 PM, 5/17/2022: Ptg and flowstate and vagabundo are going to Paris at 21 h and then perola negra 23 h.
9:46 PM, 5/17/2022: Has suite hidromassagem.
After eating Vagabundo, PTG and Flowstate headed to Paris Cafe but we decided to check out some areas with street walkers, at Barra Posto 9-11 on the street.
10:13 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Barra POSTO 9 11 good street walkers.
The best looking girl of the day may have been a certain slim redhead (ruiva) who was on this stretch of road. Coulda woulda shoulda -- shoulda taken her to the nearby love motel. Got to be flexible and always ready.
10:42 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Paris has 15 girls. Some 8+ .
By 10 h42, we got to Paris Cafe. I noted that there were 15 girls many 8+. You have to keep moving. Vagabundo got numbers. At centro prives, at Vila, at the street in Barra, at Paris.
10:44 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Good sw in recreio on coastal street between p9 and 11.
10:44 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: BSW 7+.
10:44 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Redhead sw 8+.
10:44 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: 18.
10:48 PM, 5/17/2022 ISG Mimic86: Any big bundas?
10:49 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Sim.
10:56 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Street walker top talent.
10:58 PM, 5/17/2022 : That's a street walker? I need to walk on more streets.
11:29 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Paris has swing sabado 20 h 05 h.
11:30 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Have to bring girl to enter swing party.
11:40 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: 4 June swing party at paris.
11:40 PM, 5/17/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Singles can enter for 250.
11:57 PM, 5/17/2022 : 310 reais 40 minute in paris.
The cost is 310 reais for 40 minutes at Paris Cafe.
We then went to Olegario Maciel 7, got out, and walked around and had some pasteis at Bar do Adao. This is a area where barravipsrio girls go to have tropical and gin and hash.
12:38 AM, 5/18/2022 Professor Do Cinema: Swing areas at paris.
1:16 AM, 5/18/2022 Professor Do Cinema: We are at perola negra.
By 01 h15, we three were at Perola Negra. I like that in the outside area you can smoke some ganja. The quality of the girls was really good, some 9+, even on a Tuesday. This had been my experience before just a month earlier. IMHO, Perola Negra continues to be the best Terma in Brazil.
1:32 AM, 5/18/2022 Professor Do Cinema: At perola 30 girls some 8+.
1:32 AM, 5/18/2022 Professor Do Cinema: 40 minutes 270 r.
The cost is $270 reais for 40 minutes at Perola negra. PTG said some girls were asking much higher, but I don't think that's right. I had girls who were just as good if not better than the girls he was talking to and the cost was $270 r for 40 minutes.
1:47 AM, 5/18/2022 Professor Do Cinema: I will send around the vagabundo update to the bubba boy guide with the interview with vagabundos questions.
We probably left Perola Negra at 03 h or later. It was a good night.
Below is Bubba Boy's Interview process with Vagabundo's take on the interview.
The screening process / How to Get Bareback in Rio:
It is very important to get a good feeling with a girl. I always ask the following questions and listen to the response. I ask the questions with a smile and try to make her laugh a bit; if she thinks you are fun she will usually reciprocate.
My (BB's) questions:
1) Are you good in bed? She will of course say she is the best. This is the icebreaker, a chance for her to relax and loosen up.
2) Why are you the best? What do you do? This is a more serious question, hopefully she will offer up exactly what she will be like in the sack. I will let her answer a bit, and if she doesn't offer up what I want to hear I will then directly ask.
3) Do you do everything? Again I will let her speak and watch very carefully for the response. If she says she does do anal, I will then ask if she likes it and carefully watch for her answer, if she says she really likes it and smiles, well then I am thinking you are going to have a good time.
4.
The above 3 questions will give her a chance to tell you what she likes and what she doesn't like. Usually the above the questions are enough to get her to say whether she does anal or not, without you having to explicitly ask. If she hasn't offered whether she does it or not then I will then explicitly ask. The way she answers is more important than what she actually says. If she says, "I do anal but it depends on how big your are", well that is a red flag, more than likely she doesn't want to do it (and when you get to that point in the room, she will say "Your dick is too big! Again if you have a fetish for CIM and she says "I will let you do it if you only have a very clean dick", again a red flag, good chance she is going to turn her head away during the money shot. On the other hand if she says "I will do everything you want, baby" and says it with a smile, then sticks her tongue down your throat, then that is a very positive thing and you are probably in for some serious fun.
VB's questions:
1. Vc ten filhos? Do you have kids? The correct answer is no because it is easier to get her for pernoite.
Pernoite is my plan because my pro forma week is pernoite 3-4 times, for sex daily (sometimes I.
Take Saturday's off with Temple, and to drill with the Swiss consulate active duty Naval Infantry).
2. Onde vc mora? Where do you live? The correct answer is not a favela because I want to be able to.
Visit her. For example, Meier is not a favela, and actually a middle class 'hood where it is safe, near North Shopping, and easily accessible by bus 457 from Copa. You as a man want a relationship with a woman who you can fuck and shit shower shave supper and sleep at her place because it is more intimate, and you want more intimate sex as it is better sex. But I do not want to go to a outright favela.
3. Vc transa sem camisinha? Sou limpio. Do you fuck (vaginally) without condom. I am clean. I want to BBFSCIP or BBFSCIA (cum in ass, which may be preferable for birth control, as pregnancy is the ultimate STD). Yes, get tested, get her tested (tier 1 termas test, that is part of what you are paying for, so do tier 1 prives, again, the clientele is paying for a clean girl). I want it raw. If you use condoms, I recommend the local brand, SKYN.
I will also look for negative signs, including;.
If the first thing a girl asks is "buy me a drink" I will be immediately on the defensive; if she is anything less than smoking hot she will be dumped immediately. Yeah I want to buy a girl a drink, but only after a few questions and only after I have decided there is a good chance I am going to take her to the cabine.
If when offered a drink, the girl tries to order the most fucking expensive thing on the menu, then that is a huge negative thing. I will always ask, "what would you like to drink", I will order for her. Doing this shows you are not an easy target. Red Bull and a mixed drink together from a girl I have just met, are $ 25-50+, is taking the piss. On the other hand an ex "Brazilian girlfriend", ordered just that when we met, I was with a buddy and he was with her friend, what saved her was the following she says "I know red bulls and vodka are expensive, but if you buy one red bull, we can order 2 vodkas separately (between the 2 girls) and that will be a little cheaper. " I don't mind buying an "expensive drink" for a girl, I can afford it. I just don't like the idea of being taken for a mug. There were also a few other positive things which led us to relax a little, we knew we were going to have a good time with those 2; sometimes everything just clicks and it did!
No kissing with tongue before going to the cabine: Just before I go to the cabine I will make sure she kisses passionately, I don't particularly want to kiss a girl with tongue in the main Boate, but I do want to know if she is passionate. If she does not use tongue it is a sign she is not going to be passionate -- a big enough negative to ditch her in some cases. In the cheaper places they won't kiss passionately in the Boate, they are used to Brazilian guys that will kick a lot of tyres first. Once they know you are serious, they will be a lot more liberal.
Additionally: I always make sure you get a good look at the girl. Sometimes lighting can be a bit ordinary. Sometimes a girl looks completely different when sitting down, particularly in Brazil, when you really need to look at the complete package while standing. Another friend of mine was sitting with a girl, and she did look cute. When he decided to take her to the room, she gets up and says, "So, you like a girl with a big ass, do you?" . . . To his horror he looked down and saw a massive Bunda (ass). This catch phrase has become part of our vocabulary, as in when a friend says, "what do you think of this babe?" to which you reply, "so, you like a girl with a big ass?" (I. E, her ass is a bit on the heavy side).
Vagabundo1
05-21-22, 14:31
The attached map of rio according to race is worth close examination.
Copa is surrounded by favelas on 3 sides.
The associated article, from the economist.com, is at this link.
https://wordpress.com/post/bombeirovagabundo.wordpress.com/397
Rio de Janeiro asks why its cops kill so many black people.
Activists are increasingly pushing back.
Aug 14th 2021 (Updated Aug 16th 2021).
Jacarezinho.
At dawn on May 6th residents of Jacarezinho, a favela in Rio de Janeiro, woke to the sound of police helicopters and gunfire. Ten hours later, 28 people were dead, nearly all of them black men. Mariana de Paula, a 27-year-old accountant and activist who lives on the morro ("hill", as steep favelas like Jacarezinho are called), told her boss that it was too dangerous to travel to the office. Her boss, who is white, suggested she use a ride-hailing app. "She didn't get it," says Ms de Paula, who is black. The shooting sounded like popcorn. The victims included one police officer, shot by drug traffickers, and 27 residents killed by the police. Some were unarmed. It was the deadliest police raid in the state's history.
When the shooting stopped, Ms de Paula began her commute down alleyways that zigzag to the bottom of the morro, through a tunnel from Rio's poor Zona Norte to the rich Zona Sul, and finally to Barra the Tijuca, a beachside strip that is 72% white. In mostly white neighbourhoods in Rio flats can cost 2,000 reais ($400) per square foot. Their inhabitants blame poverty and corruption for the violence that plagues the city. But a growing chorus from Ms de Paula's Rio, the mostly black peripheries and favelas, suggests there is more to it than that.
Black Brazilians are increasingly arguing not only that the police are too trigger-happy but also that their violence is sometimes racially motivated. In 2019 Brazilian cops killed 6,357 people. In the state of Rio they killed 1,814: nearly twice as many people as cops killed in the United States, which has a population 19 times as large. Eight out of ten Brazilians killed by police are negros, a grouping that combines the official racial categories of preto, "black", and pardo, "brown" or "mixed". (Throughout this article, "black" refers to the unofficial category of negros.) Police killings tripled between 2013 and 2020 and now represent around a third of all homicides in some states, according to data compiled by the Brazilian Forum on Public Safety, an NGO.
Part of the explanation lies in history. Brazil was the last country in the Americas to outlaw slavery. Though former slaves did not suffer formal segregation of the kind imposed by South Africa or the American South, poverty and laws criminalizing vagrancy and African religions had a similar effect. Rio "civilised and modernized itself by expelling second-class citizens to the morros", writes Zuenir Ventura in "Cidade Partida" (Divided City, 1994).
Black people too poor to live elsewhere built shantytowns (see map). Their residents became cheap labour for factories in Zona Norte and white families in Zona Sul. Today black Brazilians are 56% of Brazil's population but 70% of the poor. Unemployment is 17% for blacks versus 12% for whites. White Brazilians earn almost twice as much as black ones do.
Jacarezinho, which sits between a defunct General Electric plant and two train lines, has 40,000 residents. Its past as a haven for former slaves earned it the nickname "Rio's blackest favela". Over the years, poverty has bred resourcefulness. Residents add one floor after another to homes packed like Lego bricks. Shops sell everything from birthday cakes to beard-trimmers. But there is no proper sewerage system. Nor are there many formal jobs. Open-air drug markets are manned by teens with ak-47's, despite a huge police station at the bottom of the favela.
In 2008 a police commander in Rio called the force "the best social insecticide" after a raid that killed nine people. Rio's civil police is responsible for investigating crimes, but like the military police, its encounters with favelas consist mostly of operations with heavy weapons and hundreds of men. Decades of iron-fist policing have failed to curb violence. A recent study by the state prosecutor's office showed that in the month after lethal raids, crime in the vicinity tends to tick up, not down. And raids claim innocent lives. In the past five years, eight children under the age of 12 were killed during police operations in Rio. At least 24 were injured. During the Jacarezinho raid a nine-year-old saw police kill a man in her bedroom, soaking her mattress with his blood.
The Department for the Protection of Children and Adolescents says it spent months planning the raid in May, which was meant to arrest 21 people suspected of recruiting minors to drug gangs. But evidence appears to be scant—consisting mainly of photos from Twitter. Officers made only six arrests. Of the 27 people killed, some were minors and most were not on the suspect list (police say they were wanted on other charges). It looked like a "revenge operation", says Daniel Hirata of the Federal Fluminense University in Rio. When an officer dies in a raid, civilian deaths are twice as likely.
Despite the levels of violence—which police argue is needed to counter crime—most citizens are indifferent to the plight of favela residents, says Silvia Ramos of the Centre for Security and Citizenship Studies, a think-tank. Brazilians see police killings as a natural response to overall violence. They express more fear than citizens of any of the 163 countries surveyed by the Institute for Economics and Peace, an Australian think-tank. Some 95% are somewhat or very worried about being the victims of violence. Another poll found that 57% agreed with the phrase "a good criminal is a dead criminal."
"You can't go into a favela with roses," argues Carlos Monjardim, the head of the residents' association in Ipanema, a rich neighbourhood in the south of the city. It has 42 community police officers, whom locals "adore". Mr Monjardim's biggest concern is an "invasion" of people selling knick-knacks on the pavements.
He refers to the idea, first mooted in the 1930's, that a lack of laws against interracial romance and greater mixing have made Brazil a "racial democracy". "Racism doesn't exist here," he says, pointing to his love of samba and his adopted sister, who is black. He supports the populist president, Jair Bolsonaro, who has called residents of quilombos (communities founded by escaped slaves) "fat and lazy" and says that activists are "importing. Tensions alien to our history."
Indeed segregation in Brazil, including the existence of favelas and separate "service" elevators for maids and cooks, tends to be attributed to class, not race. Even left-wing types "used to say racism is just a fruit of economic inequality", says Luiz Eduardo Soares, who as an adviser to Rio's security secretary in 1999-2000 tried to reduce crime by filling favelas with projects, such as a snazzy cultural centre.
But such schemes are often underfunded. Killings by police fell 86% between 2008 and 2014 in "police pacification unit" areas, built in the lead-up to the 2016 Olympics. These community policing units were disbanded in 2019, after their budget was cut from 5 m reais to just 10,000. Attempts to reform the police cost reformers like Mr Soares their jobs.
The revolution is now televised.
Attitudes have started to change, however. This is partly due to pressure from activists, academics and a small but growing contingent of black politicians. More recently Black Lives Matter protests in the United States and the rise of mobile phones and social media have also raised awareness of racism.
Thiago Amparo, a human-rights lawyer, provided live commentary on Brazil's biggest tv channel for six hours in the wake of George Floyd's death. In November 2020 protests swept Brazil after white security guards at a Carrefour supermarket beat a black man to death. The supermarket chain agreed to pay 115 m reais to civil-rights groups, a record sum. In June a video of a white couple falsely accusing a black surfing instructor of stealing their bicycle went viral. An ongoing survey of news stories about police operations in Brazil found the word "black" only once in 7,000 stories between June 2019 and May 2020 but six times since the death of Mr Floyd.
Michael França, an economist, thinks that Brazil is starting to talk more openly about race. This year he and his colleagues from Insper, a business school in São Paulo, created a "racial-equality index" to measure disparities in different regions. The situation is becoming better in some ways and worse in others.
Public universities now have as many black students as white ones, but while 36% of white 18- to 24-year-olds have completed university or are studying for a degree, the share drops to 18% for black 18- to 24-year-olds. Mr França's index estimates that it will take 27 years to reach racial equality. And a black Brazilian is nearly three times as likely as a white one to be a victim of homicide. (Most perpetrators are also black.) In the United States a black person is seven times as likely to be killed as a white one. But in Brazil deaths of black people at the hands of cops are a larger share of homicides.
These numbers are finally starting to dawn on people, says Irapuã Santana of Educafro, a civil-rights group. In 2017 the group joined a class-action lawsuit opposing police raids which resulted in orders that Rio's police take steps to prevent loss of life, such as having ambulances on call and not using schools as bases from which to shoot. After the Supreme Court banned raids during the pandemic, killings by Rio's police dropped by a third in 2020, saving nearly 600 lives. The ban was still in place when officers entered Jacarezinho. They called the raid "Operation Exceptis."
But authorities in Rio stubbornly stick to their methods. In 2019 the governor said police should "shoot criminals in their little heads". He abolished the security secretariat, which had provided a layer of oversight, and weakened the internal-affairs departments (he was later impeached for financial irregularities). When activists argued that officers should be held accountable for the deaths in Jacarezinho, the police sealed the internal investigation for five years. A study in 2008 found that 99% of cases against Rio police officers were dismissed without charges, often without a serious investigation.
This is in contrast to São Paulo, where police lethality has dropped since some units began wearing body cameras (after the raid in Jacarezinho, Rio's state assembly ordered police to implement a 2009 law that mandates their use). São Paulo is introducing anti-racism training, though this has had mixed results in other countries. The black lieutenant-colonel who is leading the effort, Evanilson Corrêa de Souza, is unwilling to blame racism for deaths in "terrains where criminals are armed to the teeth." Police "go into favelas with the mentality that they will kill or be killed," he says, pointing out that black officers make up a third of the police force but two-thirds of officers killed. "We're killing each other." Racism isn't a policing problem, it's a societal problem, he says.
In the meantime activists will keep pushing for change. Last year Ms de Paula and Thiago Nascimento, a law student from Jacarezinho, helped found LabJaca, a think-tank geared towards favela residents, to track covid-19 cases and urge people to take the virus more seriously. After the raid they changed their focus, organising a protest and releasing a wonky video showing how many school uniforms could be purchased for the cost of weapons used by the police. But few businesses were willing to support LabJaca's new campaign.
A month after the raid, a friend of Ms de Paula's was killed by a stray bullet. Kathlen Romeu was 24 years old and 14 weeks pregnant, with a degree from interior-design school and a new flat in a safer part of Rio. She had returned to a favela to visit her grandmother when she was shot by the police, witnesses say. Ms de Paula went on national news to denounce the killing. The next day her co-workers swarmed her. "We saw you on tv," they said. "You're famous!" Tens of thousands of strangers followed Ms Romeu on Instagram, liking photos of her baby bump. "You can say all 27 killed in Jacarezinho were criminals," says Ms de Paula. "But an unborn baby?
Editor's note (August 16th 2021): This piece has been updated to include the name of an NGO that compiles data on police killings in Brazil.
Preto can used to describe an object, like a car or shirt or as a term of endearment. Preto can also be used as a racist term.
Negro is used to describe a human being, not an object. For example, my patricinha girlfriend always calls me “Negao Gostoso”. LOL.
I disagree. Like Bravo said, it's all in the delivery and tone.
I'm often called "branquinho lindo", and I like it.
Good day to all. Can anyone give an update as to the issue of having to provide Identification downstairs before entering Prives, for example Rio Branco 156, and other buildings in No Centro? Thanks.
MarquisdeSade1
05-22-22, 15:34
Can anyone say what vax are required flying from USA? Yellow fever CCP virus et al?
Would it help to enter via Colombia? Or do they have same requirements?
Or do the requirements just go off of the country of your passport.
Many thanks!
The one thing I've learned in Brazil is to let the girl self-identify. One girl might call herself a mulata and another girl with the same complexion will not. It's not like I go around saying "hey mulata, want to come back to my place?
Newbies are probably best advised to stay off this topic with girls unless they bring it up.Good advice from mr. WyattEarp.
In the current IBGE (Instituto Brasileiro de Geografia e Estatística) classification, regarding the item "color or race", the following categories are found: brancos, pardos, pretos, amarelos and indigenas. The IBGE verifies the Brazilian composition through a census carried out every 10 years. Composition by color or race is verified by self-declaration.
This classification is the subject of criticism, as noted by former IBGE president Simon Schwartzman, as a large part of the Brazilian population does not identify with it or does not like it. The term "preto", used by the IBGE, is rejected by the majority of the population, and even more rejected are the terms "pardo" and "indigenous". The term "moreno", not adopted by the IBGE, has great acceptance among Brazilians. When asked spontaneously about their color, 32% of Brazilians say they are moreno and 6% are moreno claro; the term pardo is used by only 7% and preto by 5%.
Can anyone say what vax are required flying from USA? Yellow fever CCP virus et al?
Would it help to enter via Colombia? Or do they have same requirements?
Or do the requirements just go off of the country of your passport.
Many thanks!Just the Covid-19 shots.
FlowState985
05-23-22, 04:08
Good day to all. Can anyone give an update as to the issue of having to provide Identification downstairs before entering Prives, for example Rio Branco 156, and other buildings in No Centro? Thanks.This is the only building I know that require ID to get the card for elevator.
All these posts about the terminology that Brasilians use to describe people by their color reminded me about how angry I would get when they described me.
When I first strated going to Brasil in the mid 90's, I remember being EXTREMELY offended at being called a "Gringo" by the Brasilians. There were multiple times I would spin around and yell "I am not a fucking Gringo!! Don't call me that!" Mentally, I had associated the word Gringo with the people who "Who murdered indigenous people, raped their women, enslaved their men and pillaged their resources!" I would say "My people didn't do those things to you, don't ever call me a gringo, that's offensive!" and the brasilians would look at me like I had 3 heads and try to explain what the word meant to them.
No matter how many times they tried to explain to me that Gringo didn't mean the same thing to them as the historical reference that it meant in the US, I wasn't trying to hear it. It took a much older American who saw me flip out one afternoon to pull me to the side and explain that it didn't matter if I was Japanese or French, I was still a gringo to the Brasilians because I wasn't from Brasil. Once I let me anger subside and actually fucking listened, I finally understood the significance of the word.
I have seen this scenario play out countless times where a black men will get angry and say "don't call me a gringo" to a Brasilian and now I am the old guy who explain the difference between their definition of the word and ours. LOL! What's strange is that even though I mentally understand what the term means, I still feel a twinge of uneasiness every time I am called that and have to remind myself to not get upset. (Takes a long time for an old dog to learn new tricks).
Jimmy Boy 99
05-23-22, 15:29
Been doing the centro prives everyday. Usually once around noon and then again around 5-6 pm. The talent is really good. I mean really good, especially for 20 min 50 reais. Sofia at 2304 could literally be an IG model. Snip.It seems to me that those would be the worst times to go to prives as at Noon the office workers would be using their lunch break to get in a quick session and at 5-6 PM you have the office workers getting in a quickie before going home to the wife and kids. I think you would have the best selection of girls at the prives outside of those hours.
It seems to me that those would be the worst times to go to prives as at Noon the office workers would be using their lunch break to get in a quick session and at 5-6 PM you have the office workers getting in a quickie before going home to the wife and kids. I think you would have the best selection of girls at the prives outside of those hours.100% correct. Lunch hour is the absolute worst time to go, either go before 12 PM or after 2 PM.
Vagabundo1
05-23-22, 17:29
Colorism is a serious problem in Brazil.
But it's not changing anytime soon.
It creates opportunities.
The latest economist has an article about afro religions in Brazil.
I got back from Rio after two weeks. Well, it was amazing! I'm totally recommend it to all brothers who are considering visiting Rio for the first time. My report will be brief and I will not emphasize what positions I bang the girls, how they came at least 7 times during my 3 hours non stop marathon. I will not talk about how great a lover I am. I will pay more attention to how and where I met girls, how much it costs me and where we spent great time together.
I checked the online sites that are mentioned here in the forum and decide to skip them. Going somewhere with the uber, meeting someone that had 5 "clients" this day and expect 5 more after me. This is not my type of fun. Because I do not speak Portuguese I can not try to charm them in bars and clubs. So for me the only reasonable option was online hunting with google translate. Usually I have good success on Tinder but not in Rio. By the way my criteria is pretty high, so I was looking only the Top girls. And it seems that the really good lucking girls they just don't really use it. I mean they have a profile there, but just don't open the app anymore. Or when they open it, it's like thousands and thousands messages. So you just can not reach the girl. But they leave the instagram profile there.
So I followed 20-30 girls, then the Insta algorithm started to "suggest" me profile that are similar. Which in my case was 20-26 year old Girls posing from the beach or the bar. Exactly my kind of girls LOL. Then I contacted them. Most of the times they do not answer mainly because Insta send messages from non-friends in a strange subfolder. And they reply after 2 weeks when they see them. Too late. Or they just don't like me LOL.
But in some case it works. In my case it worked 5 times. Five pretty amazing girls. We went to some of the sky bars on Copacabana beach, and to some of the beaches in Rio or visited tourist attraction together. Something like a mix between escort and freelancer. Three of the girls we agree to give them some money. From 500 to 700 reals. Plus Uber and of course I paid all the bills in the bars. Two of the girls didn't wanted money at all.
The only exception of the Insta hunting was a girl from these "massage" places. She was too hot and to sexy and I really wanted to be with her. So I went there, met her, we fuck and I ask her will she come next time to my airbnb. Sure, of course. And it was much much better the second time. The damage was 200 reals more that what she got from our one hour "meeting" but we spend like 6 hours together, going to a nice bars and banging before and after it.
So my point is if you prefer something with more quality as an experience and quality of the girls, check Instagram or Tinder. Expect prices between 500 and 1000 for come to meet me at 6 pm and leave at midnight kind of night. Personally for me 1000 was too much but I would give them if the girls is worth it. The ones that wanted 1000 was nothing special. The best looking girl wanted 500. So price is not related to the quality, it depends of other random factors.
I stayed in an airbnb in Copacabana. Pretty nice apartment with a mirror in front of the bed, fancy decoration and everything was fine. Girls were impressed with it. Costs me like 35 euro per night.
This was it, brothers. This was my experience in Rio. This is my type of trip and I was looking for that kind of info, but there was not much reports on Tinder / Insta kind of mongering. Now I try to contribute a little in that direction. I hope it will help some of you.
JohnnyWalker55
05-24-22, 20:13
It seems to me that those would be the worst times to go to prives as at Noon the office workers would be using their lunch break to get in a quick session and at 5-6 PM you have the office workers getting in a quickie before going home to the wife and kids. I think you would have the best selection of girls at the prives outside of those hours.It's not that bad tbh, never seen more than one guy in their with me and have made like 30 trips at various times. I have a nice rotations of 6-7 girls that DFK and 69, etc. I text them 15 min before I go so they don't get taken. If they are, I just go to the next chick.
And another guy asked a question, av 13 maio is asking for ID to enter as well for sala 605. Along with rio branco.
Colorism is a serious problem in Brazil.
But it's not changing anytime soon.
It creates opportunities.
The latest economist has an article about afro religions in Brazil.Colorism does not create opportunities. It's purpose is to keep people divided.
Lover Boy #2
05-25-22, 02:38
Colorism does not create opportunities. It's purpose is to keep people divided.Exactly right.
Vagabundo1
05-25-22, 04:12
As a minority myself, I certainly agree and apologize if my comments were insensitive.
I mean that since there is a divide between rich and poor in Brazil (the gini index), the opportunity is to get cheap girls, especially compared to rich world.
The economist 2014 article is a good reference. I will dig it up.
Colorism does not create opportunities. It's purpose is to keep people divided.
It's not that bad tbh, never seen more than one guy in their with me and have made like 30 trips at various times. I have a nice rotations of 6-7 girls that DFK and 69, etc. I text them 15 min before I go so they don't get taken. If they are, I just go to the next chick.
And another guy asked a question, av 13 maio is asking for ID to enter as well for sala 605. Along with rio branco.Thanks for the update about showing I. The. At av. 1 de Maio. I was already aware of Rio Branco 15, as I had to show I. The. Every time back in December visit.
Thanks for the update about showing I. The. At av. 1 de Maio. I was already aware of Rio Branco 15, as I had to show I. The. Every time back in December visit.Sorry for the typing errors. Here again is what I mean't to type in the last post: Thanks for the update about showing ID at 13 Maio. I was already aware of Rio Branco 156, as I had to show ID back in December visit.
But in some case it works. In my case it worked 5 times. Five pretty amazing girls. We went to some of the sky bars on Copacabana beach, and to some of the beaches in Rio or visited tourist attraction together. Something like a mix between escort and freelancer. Three of the girls we agree to give them some money. From 500 to 700 reals. Plus Uber and of course I paid all the bills in the bars. Two of the girls didn't wanted money at all.
Nice report, thanks for posting. Your method sounds really good to me, almost too good. Anyway, to asses this as a viable option for the average, let's say middle aged monger, it would be helpful to know your age and physical condition, especially as two of the girls went with you for free. You stayed 2 weeks, did you establish contact with the girls before your trip? How many girls did you message to get 5 hits? Also did you communicate with the girls using google translate while entertaining them in the restaurant?
Jimmy Boy 99
05-26-22, 14:05
Sorry for the typing errors. Here again is what I mean't to type in the last post: Thanks for the update about showing ID at 13 Maio. I was already aware of Rio Branco 156, as I had to show ID back in December visit.Only 47 Treze de Maio is asking for ID, not 33 Treze de Maio.
Boa tarde galera!
I'm hitting Centro and VM, etc in a bit.
Anybody cool in town, we can meet up. 👍🏼
Cheers.
Jefferson1993
05-26-22, 19:12
This sounds like the crew had a good time.
I land in Rio for the first time tomorrow morning (only been to Colombia before) and I'm staying in Copa. Looking to link up with some people that know what's going on, and are willing to show me.
If anyone is willing (Vagabundo or anybody else), shoot me a PM.
Good Report, some notes on 5/17.
Some notes:
It was a pretty good single day tour of the main points for mongering in Rio.
Only 47 Treze de Maio is asking for ID, not 33 Treze de Maio.So I guess it hasn't changed much since December, my last visit.
The attached map of rio according to race is worth close examination.
Copa is surrounded by favelas on 3 sides.
The associated article, from the economist.com, is at this link.
https://wordpress.com/post/bombeirovagabundo.wordpress.com/397
Rio de Janeiro asks why its cops kill so many black people.
Activists are increasingly pushing back.
Aug 14th 2021 (Updated Aug 16th 2021).
Jacarezinho.
At dawn on May 6th residents of Jacarezinho, a favela in Rio de Janeiro, woke to the sound of police helicopters and gunfire. Ten hours later, 28 people were dead, nearly all of them black men. Mariana de Paula, a 27-year-old accountant and activist who lives on the morro ("hill", as steep favelas like Jacarezinho are called), told her boss that it was too dangerous to travel to the office. Her boss, who is white, suggested she use a ride-hailing app. "She didn't get it," says Ms de Paula, who is black. The shooting sounded like popcorn. The victims included one police officer, shot by drug traffickers, and 27 residents killed by the police. Some were unarmed. It was the deadliest police raid in the state's history.
When the shooting stopped, Ms de Paula began her commute down alleyways that zigzag to the bottom of the morro, through a tunnel from Rio's poor Zona Norte to the rich Zona Sul, and finally to Barra the Tijuca, a beachside strip that is 72% white. In mostly white neighbourhoods in Rio flats can cost 2,000 reais ($400) per square foot. Their inhabitants blame poverty and corruption for the violence that plagues the city. But a growing chorus from Ms de Paula's Rio, the mostly black peripheries and favelas, suggests there is more to it than that.
Black Brazilians are increasingly arguing not only that the police are too trigger-happy but also that their violence is sometimes racially motivated. In 2019 Brazilian cops killed 6,357 people. In the state of Rio they killed 1,814: nearly twice as many people as cops killed in the United States, which has a population 19 times as large. Eight out of ten Brazilians killed by police are negros, a grouping that combines the official racial categories of preto, "black", and pardo, "brown" or "mixed". (Throughout this article, "black" refers to the unofficial category of negros.) Police killings tripled between 2013 and 2020 and now represent around a third of all homicides in some states, according to data compiled by the Brazilian Forum on Public Safety, an NGO.
Part of the explanation lies in history. Brazil was the last country in the Americas to outlaw slavery. Though former slaves did not suffer formal segregation of the kind imposed by South Africa or the American South, poverty and laws criminalizing vagrancy and African religions had a similar effect. Rio "civilised and modernized itself by expelling second-class citizens to the morros", writes Zuenir Ventura in "Cidade Partida" (Divided City, 1994).
Black people too poor to live elsewhere built shantytowns (see map). Their residents became cheap labour for factories in Zona Norte and white families in Zona Sul. Today black Brazilians are 56% of Brazil's population but 70% of the poor. Unemployment is 17% for blacks versus 12% for whites. White Brazilians earn almost twice as much as black ones do.
Jacarezinho, which sits between a defunct General Electric plant and two train lines, has 40,000 residents. Its past as a haven for former slaves earned it the nickname "Rio's blackest favela". Over the years, poverty has bred resourcefulness. Residents add one floor after another to homes packed like Lego bricks. Shops sell everything from birthday cakes to beard-trimmers. But there is no proper sewerage system. Nor are there many formal jobs. Open-air drug markets are manned by teens with ak-47's, despite a huge police station at the bottom of the favela.
In 2008 a police commander in Rio called the force "the best social insecticide" after a raid that killed nine people. Rio's civil police is responsible for investigating crimes, but like the military police, its encounters with favelas consist mostly of operations with heavy weapons and hundreds of men. Decades of iron-fist policing have failed to curb violence. A recent study by the state prosecutor's office showed that in the month after lethal raids, crime in the vicinity tends to tick up, not down. And raids claim innocent lives. In the past five years, eight children under the age of 12 were killed during police operations in Rio. At least 24 were injured. During the Jacarezinho raid a nine-year-old saw police kill a man in her bedroom, soaking her mattress with his blood.
The Department for the Protection of Children and Adolescents says it spent months planning the raid in May, which was meant to arrest 21 people suspected of recruiting minors to drug gangs. But evidence appears to be scantconsisting mainly of photos from Twitter. Officers made only six arrests. Of the 27 people killed, some were minors and most were not on the suspect list (police say they were wanted on other charges). It looked like a "revenge operation", says Daniel Hirata of the Federal Fluminense University in Rio. When an officer dies in a raid, civilian deaths are twice as likely.
Despite the levels of violencewhich police argue is needed to counter crimemost citizens are indifferent to the plight of favela residents, says Silvia Ramos of the Centre for Security and Citizenship Studies, a think-tank. Brazilians see police killings as a natural response to overall violence. They express more fear than citizens of any of the 163 countries surveyed by the Institute for Economics and Peace, an Australian think-tank. Some 95% are somewhat or very worried about being the victims of violence. Another poll found that 57% agreed with the phrase "a good criminal is a dead criminal."
"You can't go into a favela with roses," argues Carlos Monjardim, the head of the residents' association in Ipanema, a rich neighbourhood in the south of the city. It has 42 community police officers, whom locals "adore". Mr Monjardim's biggest concern is an "invasion" of people selling knick-knacks on the pavements.
He refers to the idea, first mooted in the 1930's, that a lack of laws against interracial romance and greater mixing have made Brazil a "racial democracy". "Racism doesn't exist here," he says, pointing to his love of samba and his adopted sister, who is black. He supports the populist president, Jair Bolsonaro, who has called residents of quilombos (communities founded by escaped slaves) "fat and lazy" and says that activists are "importing. Tensions alien to our history."
Indeed segregation in Brazil, including the existence of favelas and separate "service" elevators for maids and cooks, tends to be attributed to class, not race. Even left-wing types "used to say racism is just a fruit of economic inequality", says Luiz Eduardo Soares, who as an adviser to Rio's security secretary in 1999-2000 tried to reduce crime by filling favelas with projects, such as a snazzy cultural centre.
But such schemes are often underfunded. Killings by police fell 86% between 2008 and 2014 in "police pacification unit" areas, built in the lead-up to the 2016 Olympics. These community policing units were disbanded in 2019, after their budget was cut from 5 m reais to just 10,000. Attempts to reform the police cost reformers like Mr Soares their jobs.
The revolution is now televised.
Attitudes have started to change, however. This is partly due to pressure from activists, academics and a small but growing contingent of black politicians. More recently Black Lives Matter protests in the United States and the rise of mobile phones and social media have also raised awareness of racism.
Thiago Amparo, a human-rights lawyer, provided live commentary on Brazil's biggest tv channel for six hours in the wake of George Floyd's death. In November 2020 protests swept Brazil after white security guards at a Carrefour supermarket beat a black man to death. The supermarket chain agreed to pay 115 m reais to civil-rights groups, a record sum. In June a video of a white couple falsely accusing a black surfing instructor of stealing their bicycle went viral. An ongoing survey of news stories about police operations in Brazil found the word "black" only once in 7,000 stories between June 2019 and May 2020 but six times since the death of Mr Floyd.
Michael Frana, an economist, thinks that Brazil is starting to talk more openly about race. This year he and his colleagues from Insper, a business school in So Paulo, created a "racial-equality index" to measure disparities in different regions. The situation is becoming better in some ways and worse in others.
Public universities now have as many black students as white ones, but while 36% of white 18- to 24-year-olds have completed university or are studying for a degree, the share drops to 18% for black 18- to 24-year-olds. Mr Frana's index estimates that it will take 27 years to reach racial equality. And a black Brazilian is nearly three times as likely as a white one to be a victim of homicide. (Most perpetrators are also black.) In the United States a black person is seven times as likely to be killed as a white one. But in Brazil deaths of black people at the hands of cops are a larger share of homicides.
These numbers are finally starting to dawn on people, says Irapu Santana of Educafro, a civil-rights group. In 2017 the group joined a class-action lawsuit opposing police raids which resulted in orders that Rio's police take steps to prevent loss of life, such as having ambulances on call and not using schools as bases from which to shoot. After the Supreme Court banned raids during the pandemic, killings by Rio's police dropped by a third in 2020, saving nearly 600 lives. The ban was still in place when officers entered Jacarezinho. They called the raid "Operation Exceptis."
But authorities in Rio stubbornly stick to their methods. In 2019 the governor said police should "shoot criminals in their little heads". He abolished the security secretariat, which had provided a layer of oversight, and weakened the internal-affairs departments (he was later impeached for financial irregularities). When activists argued that officers should be held accountable for the deaths in Jacarezinho, the police sealed the internal investigation for five years. A study in 2008 found that 99% of cases against Rio police officers were dismissed without charges, often without a serious investigation.
This is in contrast to So Paulo, where police lethality has dropped since some units began wearing body cameras (after the raid in Jacarezinho, Rio's state assembly ordered police to implement a 2009 law that mandates their use). So Paulo is introducing anti-racism training, though this has had mixed results in other countries. The black lieutenant-colonel who is leading the effort, Evanilson Corra de Souza, is unwilling to blame racism for deaths in "terrains where criminals are armed to the teeth." Police "go into favelas with the mentality that they will kill or be killed," he says, pointing out that black officers make up a third of the police force but two-thirds of officers killed. "We're killing each other." Racism isn't a policing problem, it's a societal problem, he says.
In the meantime activists will keep pushing for change. Last year Ms de Paula and Thiago Nascimento, a law student from Jacarezinho, helped found LabJaca, a think-tank geared towards favela residents, to track covid-19 cases and urge people to take the virus more seriously. After the raid they changed their focus, organising a protest and releasing a wonky video showing how many school uniforms could be purchased for the cost of weapons used by the police. But few businesses were willing to support LabJaca's new campaign.
A month after the raid, a friend of Ms de Paula's was killed by a stray bullet. Kathlen Romeu was 24 years old and 14 weeks pregnant, with a degree from interior-design school and a new flat in a safer part of Rio. She had returned to a favela to visit her grandmother when she was shot by the police, witnesses say. Ms de Paula went on national news to denounce the killing. The next day her co-workers swarmed her. "We saw you on tv," they said. "You're famous!" Tens of thousands of strangers followed Ms Romeu on Instagram, liking photos of her baby bump. "You can say all 27 killed in Jacarezinho were criminals," says Ms de Paula. "But an unborn baby?
Editor's note (August 16th 2021): This piece has been updated to include the name of an NGO that compiles data on police killings in Brazil.The figures relating to murders in Brazil are staggering. Its a complicated country riddled with corruption, drugs, limited education (compared to Western countries) and associated violence. Favelas have grown to incredible sizes, some having up to 400,000 residents. Favelas where 99% of the Police cannot routinely enter without a gunfight. The cops don't know if they are coming home each day and are surviving, that's why they don't think twice about pulling the trigger. The gangs know the Police entering the favela are scanning their basic two way radios. The gangs tell the police they are going to kill them if they come any further. The gangs have high grade military weapons and ammo and they target the Police. I am only surprised the Police don't kill ten times more and I think they are quite restrained! Why are mostly black men shot, because 99% of the gang members are dark skinned. Look at the prison population and look at the ethnicity of the convicted criminals, again most are dark skinned. Walk around the beaches of copocabana and ipenema each day for a few months and watch the petty criminality take place, from beach thieves to thieves snatching phones etc and running off. 99% are dark skinned young males. Watch the security guards at the Mundial supermarkets or the ones at Shopping center Leblon. These guards are nearly always black and just watch how they eye ball young black men entering or trying to enter. The guards are stereotyping based on their own Brasilian life experiences and they know what a normal day to day criminal looks like in Rio.
The Rio Police has a massive percentage of dark skinned officers, some darker than others, some lighter. Some have Black parents and others different mixes. Most Military cops etc come from very humble backgrounds, not born with a silver spoon in their mouth. I don't think they specifically target Black men because of their colour, its based on the officers threat assessment (stereotyping) and this comes from them living and working on the streets in Rio. They don't shoot lighter skinned people because the figures prove 100% that those are not usually the criminals, gang members etc etc, therefore they are not seen as a threat. Those lighter skinned people are nearly all of the people arrested for Tax evasion, Fraud, theft etc. But not usually for any violent crimes, not compared to the percentage of dark skinned people who are arrested for violent crimes.
Brasil has huge problems to overcome and there isn't a single person who is going to change this quickly. As long as they try to keep increasing education and opportunities for all then that's the direction I think they should go. If the gangs keep selling drugs, shooting and killing cops then the spiral of endless violence will never stop. I don't have the answers and am very grateful when I arrive back in the West after a trip. Having said that, I always return to Brasil because I love the people and the place. Take care.
Vagabundo1
05-27-22, 03:33
Last week, mid week, Vagabundo and FlowState mongered into Treze de Maio Sala 2106 for a two man room clear.
In the apresentao were:
Camila, huge rack, cute, no kids, 20 year old.
Bruna, super ass, 25, hot AF.
And Vagabundo, having done both, chose the former for a check the box, fuck in a 50 reais for 20 minutes session (that is $9. 99 in United States Dollars, or the cost of a frappacino venti with extra whipped cream in some rich world venues).
She came in. Even though I had not yet showered since taking a crap at a California coffee place (too much information, I know), she sucked expertly, got my dick nice and hard, and then jumped on, hopped up and down, while I fondled and sucked her tits, which she protested about, but so what, she wasn't paying me, and then she bent over and while fondling her rack, I came inside of her sweet, young pussy.
I am told in the ISGer clan that Sperto liked her too, and since we have fucked many of the same girls, like Maya, a fave over at darkroom, I thought I would send out a cyber high five and smile at the memory.
I just fucked homegirl for the second time, and as she requested, I pulled out well before jizzing all over my hand. I need to train her to cum in mouth.
And so it goes. Here in Hotel California, which resembles Slaughterhouse 5 for all the gonzo sex.
https://youtu.be/DvlZtlBfCi0
MRMonger1984
05-27-22, 17:30
Been reading up on the forum thanks for the info our first time in Rio we land Saturday night late so looks like mosaico will be our first port of call to unload.
Jefferson1993
05-27-22, 19:27
Title says it all. Vagabundo1 I tried to message you, but it wouldn't let me for some reason.
Last week, mid week, Vagabundo and FlowState mongered into Treze de Maio Sala 2106 for a two man room clear.
In the apresentao were:
Camila, huge rack, cute, no kids, 20 year old.
Bruna, super ass, 25, hot AF.
And Vagabundo, having done both, chose the former for a check the box, fuck in a 50 reais for 20 minutes session (that is $9. 99 in United States Dollars, or the cost of a frappacino venti with extra whipped cream in some rich world venues).
She came in. Even though I had not yet showered since taking a crap at a California coffee place (too much information, I know), she sucked expertly, got my dick nice and hard, and then jumped on, hopped up and down, while I fondled and sucked her tits, which she protested about, but so what, she wasn't paying me, and then she bent over and while fondling her rack, I came inside of her sweet, young pussy.
I am told in the ISGer clan that Sperto liked her too, and since we have fucked many of the same girls, like Maya, a fave over at darkroom, I thought I would send out a cyber high five and smile at the memory.
Camila, huge rack, cute, no kids, 20 year old... I am told in the ISGer clan that Sperto liked her too, and since we have fucked many of the same girls, like Maya, a fave over at darkroom, I thought I would send out a cyber high five and smile at the memory.I hope you had a good time with Camila. "Camila" is a common GP name. I think I recall a Camilla from 13: e de Maio the last years that was good. Colombiana? However, nothing compared to "fulana" in Tijuca. Every time I went to Tijuca and saw her in the presentation I I got got a hard on. Beautiful, 18 years, slim and giant natural tits. A shame I had to give up allt the Tijuca privées. Don't ask why. They were the best in Rio.
Pahllus Maximus
05-28-22, 01:37
From just shy of 5. 5 last year to 4. 8 and it's still undervalued (0. 1818:0. 208).
I'm pretty pleased, sitting on about currency 13% gain alone in less than a year and BR real estate prices have gone up about another 20% (at the higher end) as people figure out what value this place is (medical, sex, food, beaches) compared to USA and Europe.
But what I like the most are the beautiful women who are mostly fun and kiss, and so many of every color and age group for about $20 depending upon time etc, a place where CIM or anal are considered normal. A great subway. Tapping into the middle classes here (who speak English) has be great, it opened up many new experiences and some actual friends. It makes for a real life rather than endless mongering that gets boring. Most laugh at my succession 25 year younger girlfriends. It took a long time to source good organic vegetables and meat and tap into the farmers direct network, but it's also fun discovering and exploring. The girls love when I have them chop veges and I a cook for a romantic dinner. It's best to buy a half animal in primals and freeze. Big Ag is a problem in BR and I refuse to contribute to the destruction of the Amazon. Life is great, I really like the relaxed attitude to sexuality (as it should be) as a normal and healthy, unlike the fucked up USA. Progress and order indeed!
Jefferson1993
05-28-22, 03:00
First night in Rio, got a nice Airbnb in Copa about one block off the beach. Got settled and walked over to Novo for some food. Got a nice Brazilian steak plate and a very good mojito. Stopped by the market to grab some stuff, shot off a few messages to girls on Barravips. One quoted me 500 are for one hour, 600 if she came to me plus uber (ignored that) and another quoted me 400 are for one hour, didn't do it, but did think about it. I wonder what she'll do?
Ended up walking to Eden Spa (basically around the corner from my Airbnb). Got up to the fourth floor and sat down, three girls came one at a time for a demonstration so I could choose (just a quick walk in, say Hi, kiss on the cheek, walk out). Ended up choosing a tall and bronze skinned girl with a nice, natural, ass and smaller, natural, pierced breasts (think her name was Samantha).
Haha I thought it'd start as a massage and go to sex, but it was straight to kissing and oral. She kissed with tongue to start out, I gave oral, and she did with no condom. Condom for sex was hard line for her. Finish then she offers me the shower and a towel. I pick up my pants to take with me, she says "no you can leave that just wear the towel. " I'm like, please, no way I'm leaving my cash / wallet in this room. Did feel a little on the spot though, but can't trust anyone out here. After the shower we go again, this time I notice she isn't barely using tongue to kiss and doesn't go down again. We finish, I wash off again, play with her ass some more and head out.
Not everything I wanted (I'm a huge CIM type of guy) but not mad at how I spent 200 are. I'm sure I'll hit Eden Spa a good amount on this trip. Trying to find more places too. A night / dance club would be nice too.
Not everything I wanted (I'm a huge CIM type of guy) but not mad at how I spent 200 are. I'm sure I'll hit Eden Spa a good amount on this trip. Trying to find more places too. A night / dance club would be nice too.Club Vitrinni or Club All In. They are both located in Barra the Tijuca. (And before you ask, NO, it is not a place to pick up working girls there. This is a spot for Patricinhas and Playboys.
Jefferson1993
05-29-22, 00:16
Thank you, I appreciate the info.
Club Vitrinni or Club All In. They are both located in Barra the Tijuca. (And before you ask, NO, it is not a place to pick up working girls there. This is a spot for Patricinhas and Playboys.
All these posts about the terminology that Brasilians use to describe people by their color reminded me about how angry I would get when they described me.
When I first strated going to Brasil in the mid 90's, I remember being EXTREMELY offended at being called a "Gringo" by the Brasilians. There were multiple times I would spin around and yell "I am not a fucking Gringo!! Don't call me that!" Mentally, I had associated the word Gringo with the people who "Who murdered indigenous people, raped their women, enslaved their men and pillaged their resources!" I would say "My people didn't do those things to you, don't ever call me a gringo, that's offensive!" and the brasilians would look at me like I had 3 heads and try to explain what the word meant to them.
No matter how many times they tried to explain to me that Gringo didn't mean the same thing to them as the historical reference that it meant in the US, I wasn't trying to hear it. It took a much older American who saw me flip out one afternoon to pull me to the side and explain that it didn't matter if I was Japanese or French, I was still a gringo to the Brasilians because I wasn't from Brasil. Once I let me anger subside and actually fucking listened, I finally understood the significance of the word.
I have seen this scenario play out countless times where a black men will get angry and say "don't call me a gringo" to a Brasilian and now I am the old guy who explain the difference between their definition of the word and ours. LOL! What's strange is that even though I mentally understand what the term means, I still feel a twinge of uneasiness every time I am called that and have to remind myself to not get upset. (Takes a long time for an old dog to learn new tricks).As someone of Latin descent, looks the part and speaks fluent Spanish but was born and raised in the good ol' USA I always joke around with Latin Americans that I am a gringo because they always figure it out after a few minutes of talking and it's true.
It's purely a cultural thing. I grew up with McDonald's, Charlie Brown, Norman Rockwell, PBS, watching 9/11 live, Saturday morning cartoons and the like while those born south of the border grew up with a completely different cultural Perspective.
It's actually interesting seeing the 1st generation Latin kids in the USA not being able to speak Spanish.
A lot of them have never even seen their parents home country.
Didn't even take a generation to get the new kids on the block westernized or become gringos as many Latin people would say.
Makes me think how the word African American is really arbitrary since the cultural link between a black person born in Africa and one born in the US has long since been gone.
Also the fact that Elon Musk would fall under that category while usain bolt would not.
Also the fact that Elon Musk would fall under that category while usain bolt would not.African American means something very particular. It's an ethnic group originating in the United States with sub-Saharan Africa (black) ancestry. That excludes both Usain Bolt and Elon Musk. Bolt is not from the United States, and neither is Musk originally, who also doesn't have sub-Saharan Africa (black) ancestry (he was born of white South African parents). Therefore neither of them is "African American."
Jefferson1993
05-29-22, 14:23
It is interesting. Some of my friends who are first generation Latin are basically white just because of how they grew up. Some of them actually tried so hard to assimilate because they didn't want / like the attention and didn't want to get made fun of growing up. Now they look back and wish they wouldn't have cared as much and and show a lot of pride for their heritage. The one I'm talking about specifically was even born there and came to the US and a small child.
As someone of Latin descent, looks the part and speaks fluent Spanish but was born and raised in the good ol' USA I always joke around with Latin Americans that I am a gringo because they always figure it out after a few minutes of talking and it's true.
It's purely a cultural thing. I grew up with McDonald's, Charlie Brown, Norman Rockwell, PBS, watching 9/11 live, Saturday morning cartoons and the like while those born south of the border grew up with a completely different cultural Perspective.
It's actually interesting seeing the 1st generation Latin kids in the USA not being able to speak Spanish.
A lot of them have never even seen their parents home country.
Didn't even take a generation to get the new kids on the block westernized or become gringos as many Latin people would say.
Makes me think how the word African American is really arbitrary since the cultural link between a black person born in Africa and one born in the US has long since been gone.
Also the fact that Elon Musk would fall under that category while usain bolt would not.
Jefferson1993
05-29-22, 15:11
Yesterday was my second day in Rio. Slept in pretty hard and caught a ride to Gringo Cafe for breakfast (I know I know, but I wanted a large breakfast, okay). I sat there for awhile after finishing my food then walked the blocks surrounding it. There were a lot of people and music on the street. Probably because it was Saturday. After that I looked on here again and saw a post awhile back from another regular member that talked about Massagem Tijuca that is 160 are / HR if you pay in cash. His post also said that girls here like to eat ass, figured that was enough of a reason for me so I caught a right out there.
Massagem Tijuca is located Avenida Paula Sousa 214, Maracan. Took about 30 minutes to drive there from Copa and was about 12 are for the uber (not bad IMO). I also enjoyed the drive. They have a big solid metal gate, ring the bell and they let you in. They have a decent room for the demonstration. The girls come in one by one and introduce themselves and give you kisses on the cheek. Some of them also said where they were from. They might have said something else that I missed.
I ended up choosing Lola. An average height, bronze skin woman with (as it turns out) fake tits (which is a bummer for me). I was taken to the room, pretty nice as the shower was in the room as opposed to outside it like at Eden Spa. We washed off quickly and then got after it. She gave some pretty good head, loved licking the balls and kept going lower and lower each time. She wouldn't let me put her legs on my shoulders or let me hold her legs up at all to get in deeper which sucked. I ended up getting it from behind and finishing there. We cleaned off again and talked some. She was telling me to be careful when I'm around and watch my glass when I'm out. She asked what I wanted to do and I told her I wanted round two to finish out my hour. She was surprised and said that Brazilian guys normally can't go two rounds. She said she wanted my milk for dessert and I thought, finally! My dumbass, however, thought we would fuck then I would finish in her mouth. Then I realized this chick thought her head would be enough to get me off the second time. She was very determined, and almost made it but didn't. I told her to let me fuck then finish in her mouth but then she said we are out of time, then the phone rang. Very disappointing! As I was leaving another girl showed interest in me, she wasn't really my type but I said I'd be back.
Biggest difference between Massagem Tijuca and Eden Spa:
- Massagem Tijuca is has nicer facilities overall IMHO.
- The shower in room at Massagem Tijuca is a big plus so you can always have an eye on your stuff.
- The girls at MT seemed to take their time a little more during the demonstration. Longer holds, better cheek kisses.
- Lola at MT was about CIM when my girl from Eden checked the condom at every position change. But that can just be the girl not the place.
After MT I got dinner at Joaquina. Pretty good food, live music, and the service was great. I sat there till after 2300 and walked over to Mabs to see what it was all about. I'm a fan, you get to just watch TV then glance at the girls all lined up next to the screen and call one over if you like. I sat with two guys who are leaving today, one got his wallet stolen when some girl was dancing on him. Very shitty. Ended up taking a light brown, thin, dark haired, girl with a nice little ass named Bruna back to the room. She gave good kisses and took it all for a bit at least. Great riding skills forward and reverse. It was 300 are for the hour, which is fine. I figured I'd have to shoot girls down to get that price in Copa.
Wanted to check out Dolce Vita after but stayed in. It was around 0230 at this point.
Second day was fun, this trying to link up with others down here.
ShinyCrazy
05-29-22, 23:34
Yesterday was my second day in Rio.These are great reports. I have never been to Rio, but it is in my plans for the fall. From all the reading I have done, it looks like maybe the Hilton Copa, with visits to MAB, Eden Spa, Dolce Vita, Termas TMC, and the centro daytime massage places will be my plan. Following your posts closely! Thanks!
It is interesting. Some of my friends who are first generation Latin are basically white just because of how they grew up. Some of them actually tried so hard to assimilate because they didn't want / like the attention and didn't want to get made fun of growing up. Now they look back and wish they wouldn't have cared as much and and show a lot of pride for their heritage. The one I'm talking about specifically was even born there and came to the US and a small child.I knew a few who's parents actively didn't speak to them in Spanish so they would learn English as their primary language. And yea you would be made fun of, I recalled kids being sent to ESOL classes and treated a bit different. Their parents wanted them to get the best education they never had and ESOL classes really hampered that so I can understand their reasoning. It sucks because knowing spanish is really key and vital in a few states and will be more in demand as they hispanic population in the US keeps growing.
I actually went out with a peruvian girl who immigrated here when she was 8 and now she is 24 and is a "No Sabo" kid which is a term for latin kids who don't know any spanish. She actually had a valley girl accent which made it even more funny.
It's the taco bell effect. It keeps some elements of the roots but has been completely molded to western standards.
I guess the more appropriate term would be Anglicisation but layman's term of gringo by the brazilian works too as they don't pussyfoot around as you can tell from the lyrics from their funk music.
Don't know why people would be offended to be called gringo when they have a anglo sounding name and speaks the king's english.
African American means something very particular. It's an ethnic group originating in the United States with sub-Saharan Africa (black) ancestry. That excludes both Usain Bolt and Elon Musk. Bolt is not from the United States, and neither is Musk originally, who also doesn't have sub-Saharan Africa (black) ancestry (he was born of white South African parents). Therefore neither of them is "African American."I think the specific note of someone's skin color to be characterized as african american is a bit much since it's really the cultural that makes you more part of a group. Like previously mentioned of how latin kids who were born and lived a few years in their respective country and moved to the US and completely assimilated to the western way of life. They have latin / south american citizenships, brown skin yet they are distinctly westernized and you'd could easy spot the difference between the two under a minute. I know many white Christian missionaries who have moved to latin / south america and have raised a white family who are more hispanic than hispanics in the US.
The term african american originated during the slave trade when african people with african names that spoke african languages were shipped out to the americans and that's why it's so odd when people use it to define black americans as that link has long since gone and been replaced with anglo names and english speaking people.
I think the specific note of someone's skin color to be characterized as african american is a bit much since it's really the cultural that makes you more part of a group. Like previously mentioned of how latin kids who were born and lived a few years in their respective country and moved to the US and completely assimilated to the western way of life. They have latin / south american citizenships, brown skin yet they are distinctly westernized and you'd could easy spot the difference between the two under a minute. I know many white Christian missionaries who have moved to latin / south america and have raised a white family who are more hispanic than hispanics in the US.
The term african american originated during the slave trade when african people with african names that spoke african languages were shipped out to the americans and that's why it's so odd when people use it to define black americans as that link has long since gone and been replaced with anglo names and english speaking people.In the usage I understand here in the United States, African-American is used like Irish-American or Italian-American. They are simply ethnicities. The same is true with Latin-American. Jennifer Lopez is Latin-American.
Not to get all historically correct, but I don't think slaves were deemed "Americans" by the people and States holding them in slavery. I don't even think there children were considered true Americans.
Jefferson1993
05-30-22, 17:08
Thank you, I really appreciate that. So far I think your plan will be spot on!
These are great reports. I have never been to Rio, but it is in my plans for the fall. From all the reading I have done, it looks like maybe the Hilton Copa, with visits to MAB, Eden Spa, Dolce Vita, Termas TMC, and the centro daytime massage places will be my plan. Following your posts closely! Thanks!
Jefferson1993
05-30-22, 17:30
Day 3 was a very slow day for me. It was Sunday and most of the spots are closed. Woke up and there was a whole farmers / food market outside my window set up in the few hours I was asleep! I'm across from the Square Serzedelo Corra and the entire block was surrounded with stands selling everything from raw fish, whole raw chickens, and pork to flowers, fresh fruit, and pastries. I walked through that for awhile and had some pastries.
They also close down half of the main road in front of the beach so people can run, bike, Rollerblade, and just be on it. I'm not sure if this is an every Sunday thing or if something special was going on yesterday, but it was pretty cool. I had lunch at Rondinella with a water and two cocktails for about 80 are.
Then one of the dudes I met the night before hit me up and said he was at Mabs looking around, I thought is was pretty early for anyone to be there. When I got there he was talking to this bombshell, light skinned, blonde girl. She ended up calling another girl, bombshell, tan with brown hair for another guy that was there that was leaving that night. The blonde charged 500 are for the hour plus uber unless he came to her place. I don't know how much the brunette charged. She was probably worth it (even though I'm sure her tits were fake). They walked back to her place for the good time. The other guy took the brunette upstairs.
I walked the busy street and just took in the sights and took the time to reach out to more girls on BarraVips. Most messaged back, it seems like a few have automatic messages sent up to send you rates when you message them. Most are 500 are some are 400 are, most charge extra for anal or don't do it. One girl, Jade, had the audacity to charge 700 are an hour with no extras!
So today was slow, mostly messages and chilling in the market or the beach. Also found a nice cigar shop just down the same street Mabs is on (Gullo Tabacaria Copacabana). Not a huge smoker but I'll probably grab some before I leave. I did get messaged by Bruna from the night before so that was a quick easy one.
Jefferson1993
05-31-22, 08:09
Day four in Rio ended up being a really aggravating one, but that's not till the end. I slept in, as normally, and found a place online called Billy the Grill. It is located at: Miguel Lemos, 56 - Loja A. Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22071-001, Brazil. It was just far enough that I thought it'd be worth the 9 R uber ride. The uber pulls up to the address and says the number of the building and points. I saw the number but didn't see any restaurant sign. I hopped out, and walked over. One look at the dude sitting on a chair behind the locked gate told me that was not the place (I asked anyway and looked dumb AF). Point is I could not find Billy the Grill in that immediate area so be aware if you're craving that one. I walked around and ended up stopping at Combinado na Brasa. I ordered chicken plate that came with a nice Pico, black beans, fries, and a lot of rice; I also ordered two cocktails and a mango drink. All in all it came out to about 73 R.
Talked to Vagabundo1 for a bit and planned to link up later this week. Stayed at the restaurant for awhile after I finished my meal and drinks.
Walked back to the place, hit an ATM, and waited for it to get a bit later so I could go see what Dolce Vida is about. It opens at 2300 so I figured I'd stop it around 0000 and it would be mostly going. I walked over and got there around 0035.50 R is the cover charge to get in, they ask and write down you name, and then give you a card. This card is actually for keeping track of the drinks and stuff you buy while you're there and then you pay it when you leave (just a tab card).
To my surprise the place was basically empty. There was literally 5 people besides the workers. Two girls with guys already dancing with them and one other woman holding a drink. I walked to the back to see the rest and that was it. The room is pretty small, I feel like it could get pretty congested quickly. One of the workers told me it normally doesn't pick up until 0200 and then again before they close at 0600. You are allowed to leave and come back without paying again. I decided to stay and had a drink.
The lone girl was good looking, tall, good size ass and tits. So I smiled and motioned her to come over, I tried dancing with her and she only really entertained it for as long as it took to exchange names and a compliment. She asked if I knew how this place worked. I wasn't sure if she meant there were rooms we'd use there (there are not) so I said no tell me. Then I realized she was just saying the girls are working and I was like I got that. We talked price. She wanted 500 R for an hour and I told her that for 500 I wanted lots of kisses with tongue, BBBJ, and cum in mouth (CIM). She said she won't do CIM and she does condom for everything and I sent her on her way. A few more girls started trickling in. Nothing special so I just avoided eye contact or made sure not to smile at them.
Then a couple of girls came in with nice fat asses that looked real. One was lighter skinned, probably a be cup, with a natural large afro. The other was dark skinned, probably an A cup with dreads that only come to probably her chin. The lighter skinned girl had the fatter ass so I smiled at her and motioned her to come over. I started dancing with her and she also only danced for a few moments (pretty awkward). She asked if it was my first time in Brazil, I said yes and she said that she is an escort. I wanted to laugh, idk why these girls don't think it's obvious. I asked how much and she said 500 R for TWO hours. I told her what I wanted (same as before) she said she won't do CIM but she does do BBBJ. I paused and thought. Then she motioned her friend to come over. The darker friend was immediately more affectionate (I believe her name is Victoria). I gave then some hugs and felt them both up a bit to confirm they were natural and asked how much for both. The light skinned girl said 600 are each for two hours, I called her out and she said 500 are. I confirmed that it was two hours starting at my place and she said yes. I agreed and we left. Dolce Vita made me pay 70 are to take them with me.
We got back to my place about 0110. I played some music and they began tweaking and stripping. Victoria was much better despite the lighter girl having a bigger ass (Victoria's is still great though). They took turns sucking me while the other kissed me. I noticed the lighter girl was making an effort to not use her tongue, at one point I told her to stick her tongue out so I could lick it (barely came out). Victoria was basically licking / sucking / eating my face which was great. We started fucking and the first issue I hadn't thought of came up. They wanted a new condom every time I switched girls (and I wanted to switch a lot). In the past I've just kept the same condom on the whole time. I blew it off at first but after about 20 minutes I was on my last condom. I told them stop this isn't going to work. The light skin girl said why. We went back and forth about it, me saying I wasn't going to get my time worth at this rate and her saying we've been dancing for so long and we were wasting time and to just fuck her. I told her to stop the time because this is a problem and at this rate they'd be leaving at 1 hour. We agreed it had only been 30 minutes since they got there. They also decided to keep the open condom for light skin (just keep putting it back on) and the last one for Victora. We kept fucking (very turned off by light skinned girl at this point). Before which, I actually pulled out my phone and started a stopwatch, light skin said that isn't the time and I replied the time is this plus the 30 minutes you've been here and and she agreed. Then she finally got me hard again (after telling me I needed me to focus while she was sucking) I motioned Victoria over and we kissed while I got sucked which got me hard.
I switched the last time to Victoria and made her cum then I came in the condom. Light skin went to the shower and Victora wiped her cum off me and started sucking my dick again, amazingly, until light skin got out of the shower then she went to clean off. They came back and started getting dressed. At this point it's about 0220. I asked if we were going to keep going. Light skin said baby no I said two hours and then I told her it had only been one. She just shook her head. I put some pants on and only gave them 500 R for doing half the work. She said they had been there for two hours and she was wrong about the time before. We argued for about 25 minutes getting louder and louder. She said she was calling the cops and said please and pointed out the window to the cops across the street. We kept arguing, and I think I offered to give them 300 each. Eventually felt myself losing my temper and pulled out the extra 500, walked them to the door, basically threw it at them and slammed the door.
So very frustrating, and even more frustrating because I really liked Victoria and would definitely session with her alone again and again.
Thoughts I have right now:
- IDK if dancing at clubs with the girls is weird here or if it was just two I talk to (I think it is just them).
- Start a timer everyone see when they get there and if you need to pause for any reason make it clear.
- if you don't have a fat stack of condoms, talk about how they want to do it (I had 4 or 5).
- Another frustrating thing was when I was fucking one the other would try to be off dancing or just away until I motioned them over. I personally want dual contact the entire time and need to make that clear.
- Be immediately weary if someone promises you two hours. These hoes can't hang that long with back to back sessions.
- Maybe I should have just given the money in the beginning, counted it as a loss, and kept the relationship with Victoria (wonder if I should approach if I see her again).
- Those bodies are the ones I'm looking for out here, and it was a good time for what I had. I just wanted my second round, and so I'm less that satisfied.
Thoughts I have right now:
- IDK if dancing at clubs with the girls is weird here or if it was just two I talk to (I think it is just them).
- Start a timer everyone see when they get there and if you need to pause for any reason make it clear.
- if you don't have a fat stack of condoms, talk about how they want to do it (I had 4 or 5).
- Another frustrating thing was when I was fucking one the other would try to be off dancing or just away until I motioned them over. I personally want dual contact the entire time and need to make that clear.
- Be immediately weary if someone promises you two hours. These hoes can't hang that long with back to back sessions.
- Maybe I should have just given the money in the beginning, counted it as a loss, and kept the relationship with Victoria (wonder if I should approach if I see her again).
- Those bodies are the ones I'm looking for out here, and it was a good time for what I had. I just wanted my second round, and so I'm less that satisfied.You can negotiate for 2 hours but you have to confirm that it will be for as many nuts as you can bust. In their minds, it was 2 hours or 1 nut. Once you came, the date was over.
Even many of the terma girls have this attitude. You book an hour and you nut in 15 minutes and they are ready to take a shower and go back downstairs. I have had girls get annoyed when I tell them to get back to work, but they knew better than to give me an issue because we can complain to the manager.
You did well to just cut your losses and pay them to leave. Unfortunately, Brasil has changed in the past 10 years and become more business like.
Side note: An older traveler told me to always get pictures of the girls before you go to the room. He did it for 2 reasons
1) If the girl was unwilling to take pictures at the club, beach, restaurant, then she definitely wont allow pictures back in the hotel. Ditch her
2) If she gives you a hard time or is a lame fuck, you now have a picture that you can show your buddies so they don't waste their time or money with them.
You did well to just cut your losses and pay them to leave. Unfortunately, Brasil has changed in the past 10 years and become more business like.
.Most especially if you get girls from the gringo venues like Mabs, Dolce Vita, etc.
Jefferson1993
05-31-22, 21:55
Yeah, you're right. That's another thing I should have made very clear. Yeah, I'm glad I did, not worth the headache. There is always more. I also really like that side note. Thanks for the advice.
You can negotiate for 2 hours but you have to confirm that it will be for as many nuts as you can bust. In their minds, it was 2 hours or 1 nut. Once you came, the date was over.
Even many of the terma girls have this attitude. You book an hour and you nut in 15 minutes and they are ready to take a shower and go back downstairs. I have had girls get annoyed when I tell them to get back to work, but they knew better than to give me an issue because we can complain to the manager.
You did well to just cut your losses and pay them to leave. Unfortunately, Brasil has changed in the past 10 years and become more business like.
Side note: An older traveler told me to always get pictures of the girls before you go to the room. He did it for 2 reasons
1) If the girl was unwilling to take pictures at the club, beach, restaurant, then she definitely wont allow pictures back in the hotel. Ditch her
2) If she gives you a hard time or is a lame fuck, you now have a picture that you can show your buddies so they don't waste their time or money with them.
Jefferson1993
05-31-22, 21:55
Which is exactly where I met them.
Most especially if you get girls from the gringo venues like Mabs, Dolce Vita, etc.
You can negotiate for 2 hours but you have to confirm that it will be for as many nuts as you can bust. In their minds, it was 2 hours or 1 nut. Once you came, the date was over.
Even many of the terma girls have this attitude. You book an hour and you nut in 15 minutes and they are ready to take a shower and go back downstairs. I have had girls get annoyed when I tell them to get back to work, but they knew better than to give me an issue because we can complain to the manager.
You did well to just cut your losses and pay them to leave. Unfortunately, Brasil has changed in the past 10 years and become more business like.
Side note: An older traveler told me to always get pictures of the girls before you go to the room. He did it for 2 reasons
1) If the girl was unwilling to take pictures at the club, beach, restaurant, then she definitely wont allow pictures back in the hotel. Ditch her
2) If she gives you a hard time or is a lame fuck, you now have a picture that you can show your buddies so they don't waste their time or money with them.The condom thing in duplas, triplas, etc. Is serious stuff for many of the girls. We did a festa with four guys on four Termas 4 x 4 girls. Yes 4 x 4 x 4 x 4 if that makes sense. These girls were absolutely organized and they got a condom off and a new one on like a Formula One pit crew. Of course, you need a lot of condoms.
Brasil has changed the past ten years for sure. The girls now approach it like hourly consultants and lawyers. They want to be to maximize their dollars per hour.
In the 1990's and 2000's, you could get a very hot girl who would just hang out and chill until round two maybe even into the next day. Others would be getting dressed and kissing you goodbye soon after blowing your first load. As a generalization, I thought this out the door mentality was more a Paulista trait. Carioca girls can be more chill if they're comfortable and having a reasonably good time.
Mr Enternational
06-01-22, 05:13
Maybe I should have just given the money in the beginning, counted it as a loss, and kept the relationship with Victoria (wonder if I should approach if I see her again).Why? So you can get fucked over again? They probably already see you as easy pickings.
UniversalX
06-01-22, 07:25
In the 1990's and 2000's, you could get a very hot girl who would just hang out and chill until round two maybe even into the next day. Others would be getting dressed and kissing you goodbye soon after blowing your first load. As a generalization, I thought this out the door mentality was more a Paulista trait. Carioca girls can be more chill if they're comfortable and having a reasonably good time.This is especially true if they also have nowhere to go or nothing to do (single no kids). The issue in the 1900's and early 2000's were many stayed in crowded GP's shared rooms especially during lucrative special event or holidays. Where staying in a nice BM's location with AC and nice clean sheets / bed was a good incentive to stay longer and provide moderately good service versus going back to a crowded shared room.
This is especially true if they also have nowhere to go or nothing to do (single no kids). The issue in the 1900's and early 2000's were many stayed in crowded GP's shared rooms especially during lucrative special event or holidays. Where staying in a nice BM's location with AC and nice clean sheets / bed was a good incentive to stay longer and provide moderately good service versus going back to a crowded shared room.Yes, I couldn't have said it better.
It was an interesting time. I spent a few nights in a shitty apartment in one of those buildings near Help. The girls were crammed into small, no A / see apartments. I called it the beehive. The hallways smelled like hairspray when the girls were getting ready for the night. They would have their doors and windows opened to increase the ventilation and would be chatting up a storm in the hallways.
It was definitely easier back then, but it helps to make like "Fonzie" as Samuel Jackson says in Pulp Fiction. So be "cool". LOL. It helps to have snacks, soda, beer and liquor. Slow things down and chill.
I ask if they want to stay and go out to breakfast or lunch. Most Brasilieras like the beach. When they say, they don't have a bikini. I say we will go buy one in the morning. Some of the girls appreciate non-monetary generosity. There are always inexpensive, bikini shops near my hotel or apartment. If the girl seems nice and a good performer, I might offer a tip that I will give her in the morning.
Brasil has changed the past ten years for sure. The girls now approach it like hourly consultants and lawyers. They want to be to maximize their dollars per hour.
Again, it all depends on the venues and girls you choose.
Gringo venues, termas, etc, I'm sure that is true.
I am very frequently in both SP and Rio and have no problem finding girls that want to hang all day / night for in actuality, whatever money I want to give them.
I'm generous with good, cool girls, but not a bobo either.
I'm no better than anyone else obviously. I'm just frequently in Brazil, I search off the beaten path, I do speak pretty good portuguese and I'm not difficult to hang with, lol.
Vagabundo1
06-02-22, 00:32
This is very true.
This is why one has to look at off the path venues like you say.
Brasil has changed the past ten years for sure. The girls now approach it like hourly consultants and lawyers. They want to be to maximize their dollars per hour.
Vagabundo1
06-02-22, 00:38
Video about catering to Brazilians and manners.
https://youtu.be/b7nnmZWC8_E
The video on Fordolandia is interesting. The key point of failure is when the Ford company stopped providing catered food to the Brazilian natives. The Brazilians are like that. They are so stuck on fucking manners. And being nice. And kissing their butts.
Vagabundo1
06-02-22, 00:42
Vagabond Awake Videos. Cheap Retirement Videos.
I found these cheap retirement videos by a youtuber who calls himself vagabond (not me).
I think Rio de Janeiro compares favorably with a $20 or less a day apartment in Barra the Tijuca.
https://youtu.be/j_hsu3Osc34
https://www.youtube.com/c/VagabondAwake/videos
https://vagabondbuddha.com/
https://youtu.be/_NQbgaKHcGY
Anyone been to bali Indonesia, or quintana roo mexico?
Jefferson1993
06-02-22, 01:31
Which is exactly where I met them.
Most especially if you get girls from the gringo venues like Mabs, Dolce Vita, etc.
Jefferson1993
06-02-22, 02:06
Yesterday was day five in Rio. Obviously slept in after the frustrating night before. I spent most of day five setting up things for me to do actual tourist things (seeing Christ the Redeemer, Sugarloaf, etc). Had to look at my time left and make sure I knew when I was going to do these, especially considering the weather looks like it will stay cloudy and possibly rainy for the rest of the week.
I hadn't really noticed them before, but while walking around there will be people handing you cards for the brothel massage parlors and the like around. If you have ever been to Las Vegas, it is the exact same as the card slappers there handing out cards.
I did go back to Eden Spa on day five. Stephanie from day one was there again and laughed when she saw me during the demonstration, but I need to keep mixing it up. There were some other girls, most didn't pop out at all. There was one that didn't even give me the kisses on the cheek, but just held my hands while saying her name. Never had a chance, didn't even ask her to repeat the name after I didn't hear it the first time.
The girl I has a session with was Carla (sounds like she says KA-LAH). She is tan, probably an "A" cup, and a huge natural ass. She was a very passionate kisser, not shy with the tongue at all. She would kiss and basically like all the way up my neck, which I enjoy. She gave BBBJ; it was alright, nothing to write home about (even though I am). I was surprised given her kissing. But she did try to go deep a few times. I went down on her till orgasm and then we started. She was another that ended up not letting me continue with her legs on my shoulders or even using my posted arms to keep her legs higher for the better angle. That is always a bummer when they tap my arms to let their legs down. I think she noticed my displeasure as she started holding her legs up herself higher and higher. Turned over, did the back, and could not believe how big this woman's ass was; finished there.
Afterward she just laid there for a good while, no hurry to get me off and move to the shower. I continued to kiss, lick, and bite her ass. I finally laid back she we continued to kiss for a long time (knowing there wasn't time for another full hit). All in all we stayed together a bit longer than I paid for. I ended up getting her number in case I want some more.
One other thing I forgot to mention about Eden Spa is they will bring you a nice cold water after your session.
Jefferson1993
06-02-22, 02:09
Agreed. It was just a thought since I lost either way. Good thing there are always more girls.
Why? So you can get fucked over again? They probably already see you as easy pickings.
Jefferson1993
06-02-22, 02:17
I think this is a good point. My Portuguese is trash, I have a little Spanish but it all basically amounts to nothing. Which I think makes it harder for me to go far off the beaten path without a wingman that has been there before. But I agree, off the path is where we want to be, and where we will find the girls with the right mindsets. Granted we aren't assholes ourselves.
Again, it all depends on the venues and girls you choose.
Gringo venues, termas, etc, I'm sure that is true.
I am very frequently in both SP and Rio and have no problem finding girls that want to hang all day / night for in actuality, whatever money I want to give them.
I'm generous with good, cool girls, but not a bobo either.
I'm no better than anyone else obviously. I'm just frequently in Brazil, I search off the beaten path, I do speak pretty good portuguese and I'm not difficult to hang with, lol.
Jefferson1993
06-02-22, 18:11
Yesterday was day six in Rio. Most of the day was spent seeing the basic sights (Christ the Redeemer, Sugarloaf, the tile stairs, etc). Was in the mood for some white girls so I did a session with Sophia Lima from Barravips. We agreed on multiple shots with CIM to finish the sex. I ended up paying 450 and would not recommend her to anyone here.
First the pictures on the site do her too many favors. Negative points for her were:
- Little heavier than I would want her to be.
- She wanted to be paid first (which I'm just not a fan of personally).
- The head she gave was not good (couple of teeth, no rhythm, and didn't really want to keep going).
- Seemed like she had too much to drink.
- She tried to weasel out of CIM.
- Kept asking if I had more alcohol for her to drink.
It wouldn't be fair to not give any positives:
- She did do the CIM (I did have to push that head down a bit).
- She ate my ass unsolicited.
- Has a decent ass.
- She is white (which is what I was looking for at the time).
Overall not a fan of Sophia Lima from Barravips and I would say don't waste your time with her.
Jefferson1993
06-02-22, 18:16
Yesterday was day six in Rio. Most of the day was spent seeing the basic sights (Christ the Redeemer, Sugarloaf, the tile stairs, etc). Was in the mood for some white girls so I did a session with Sophia Lima from Barravips. We agreed on multiple shots with CIM to finish the sex. I ended up paying 450 and would not recommend her to anyone here.
First the pictures on the site do her too many favors. Negative points for her were:
- Little heavier than I would want her to be.
- She wanted to be paid first (which I'm just not a fan of personally).
- The head she gave was not good (couple of teeth, no rhythm, and didn't really want to keep going).
- Seemed like she had too much to drink.
- She tried to weasel out of CIM.
- Kept asking if I had more alcohol for her to drink.
Positive points, It wouldn't be fair to not give any:
- She did do the CIM (I did have to push that head down a bit).
- She ate my ass unsolicited.
- Has a decent ass.
- She is white (which is what I was looking for at the time).
Overall not a fan of Sophia Lima from Barravips and I would say don't waste your time with her. I added a picture for reference since they change their names on the site on occasion.
Vagabond Awake Videos. Cheap Retirement Videos.
I found these cheap retirement videos by a youtuber who calls himself vagabond (not me).
I think Rio de Janeiro compares favorably with a $20 or less a day apartment in Barra the Tijuca.
https://youtu.be/j_hsu3Osc34
https://www.youtube.com/c/VagabondAwake/videos
https://vagabondbuddha.com/
https://youtu.be/_NQbgaKHcGY
Anyone been to bali Indonesia, or quintana roo mexico?Never been to Bali but it is a majority Hindu enclave in a predominantly Muslim country (not implying anything but just a fact).
Quintana Roo is basically Cancun / tulum beach area of Mexico and Brazilians love to visit there and of course a favorite with Americans as well. I had spent a week there this past Feb with a 20 something girl from Scandallo, had met up there and flew her in and out from there.
TreyLong88
06-03-22, 03:53
Yesterday was day five in Rio. Obviously slept in after the frustrating night before. I spent most of day five setting up things for me to do actual tourist things (seeing Christ the Redeemer, Sugarloaf, etc). Had to look at my time left and make sure I knew when I was going to do these, especially considering the weather looks like it will stay cloudy and possibly rainy for the rest of the week.
I hadn't really noticed them before, but while walking around there will be people handing you cards for the brothel massage parlors and the like around. If you have ever been to Las Vegas, it is the exact same as the card slappers there handing out cards.
I did go back to Eden Spa on day five. Stephanie from day one was there again and laughed when she saw me during the demonstration, but I need to keep mixing it up. There were some other girls, most didn't pop out at all. There was one that didn't even give me the kisses on the cheek, but just held my hands while saying her name. Never had a chance, didn't even ask her to repeat the name after I didn't hear it the first time.Does Victoria have braces?
So very frustrating, and even more frustrating because I really liked Victoria and would definitely session with her alone again and again.
Thoughts I have right now:
- IDK if dancing at clubs with the girls is weird here or if it was just two I talk to (I think it is just them).
- Start a timer everyone see when they get there and if you need to pause for any reason make it clear.
- if you don't have a fat stack of condoms, talk about how they want to do it (I had 4 or 5).
- Another frustrating thing was when I was fucking one the other would try to be off dancing or just away until I motioned them over. I personally want dual contact the entire time and need to make that clear.
- Be immediately weary if someone promises you two hours. These hoes can't hang that long with back to back sessions.
- Maybe I should have just given the money in the beginning, counted it as a loss, and kept the relationship with Victoria (wonder if I should approach if I see her again).
- Those bodies are the ones I'm looking for out here, and it was a good time for what I had. I just wanted my second round, and so I'm less that satisfied.Here is one rule that I usually follow and regret every time I make an exception: no duplas with strangers.
Take two perfectly good girls, but when they're together, they tend to slack off, stay on their phones, try to cut the session short etc.
On the other hand, duplas can be a lot of fun when you ask a girl you've been 'dating' to bring a friend.
Starting a timer. Come on. What a romance killer, LOL.
As to condoms, you need to look at it from their prospective. For them, sharing the same condom with you is like doing it bareback with each other. Now, many girls don't mind barebacking, but I think we should respect those who do.
Anyway, keep them coming.
By the way, I agree with your praise for Carla (Eden). One of the nicest girls I've been with. Can't go wrong with that one.
BigBangLover
06-03-22, 13:20
Hi guys,
I have a trip to Rio in 2 weeks from 17.6 to 26.6, maybe I will include somedays in São Paulo, too.
If somebody there, it would be nice to meet for a nice cold beer or explore the beauty and spirit of Brazil, together.
I' m from Germany, sports and travel addicted, I want join the Rio Marathon Running on 19.6 and enjoy the city and have fun, too.
BTW. Did not booked accommodation, yet. Just looking on booking.com, now.
Any comments and suggestion will be appreciated, regarding girl friendly hotels or maybe better private accommodations.
(some private places say explicit now guests (esp. Special girls) allowed.
In Europe or Asia this is not a problem, actually.
See you.
Here is one rule that I usually follow and regret every time I make an exception: no duplas with strangers.
Take two perfectly good girls, but when they're together, they tend to slack off, stay on their phones, try to cut the session short etc.There is probably some real mongering wisdom in your words.
Although it certainly much easier in Brasil, it can be a challenge making a connection with one girl back at your room. A dupla complicates the sexual and social dynamics.
Jefferson1993
06-03-22, 16:39
No braces, but she did smile a lot. Maybe she used to have some, but definitely not now.
Does Victoria have braces?
Mr Enternational
06-03-22, 17:56
Here is one rule that I usually follow and regret every time I make an exception: no duplas with strangers.I have never had a bad time doing threesomes at termas and privees.
Vagabundo1
06-03-22, 20:05
Two fucks a day, LTR.
So, it is Friday, and she has been on her period. So I give her a pass for a day, maybe. Today we fucked twice. Weed and playing Felipe ret (and taking a shower and brushing teeth and smelling good) put her in the mood. I am paying her like $800 reais a week, plus food.
It is going fine. We enjoy time together. Could I have this back in the rich world? Maybe, it would be harder.
I have enough game to get 20 something girls in Culver City to go to motels and try to get preggers by me at bars that appear in Californication. I pimp drive around porn star escorts who blow me and fuck me for the gas.
But it's easier and better here. Because there is sooooo much more selection in the market.
There is probably some real mongering wisdom in your words.
Although it certainly much easier in Brasil, it can be a challenge making a connection with one girl back at your room. A dupla complicates the sexual and social dynamics.This!
(And the "at least 10 characters message" rule complicates things too, LOL).
This!
(And the "at least 10 characters message" rule complicates things too, LOL).As has been noted by many an experienced monger before, the key is to go with two girls who are really into each other. And then your problem will be resolved. Choose a girl you like. But then let her choose a girl she likes. And then you're off to the races! I have not done a lot of duplas, but I've scored home runs when I have. I've had a lot of success in Spain, but the first dupla I ever did was in Rio. I liked it so much, I did it twice, then named my picture report "Dupla, Dupla" LOL! It all went down at Centaurus, and one of those girls would go on to become my favorite Brazilian tute of all time.
Jimmy Boy 99
06-03-22, 22:12
Hi guys,
I have a trip to Rio in 2 weeks from 17.6 to 26.6, maybe I will include somedays in So Paulo, too.
If somebody there, it would be nice to meet for a nice cold beer or explore the beauty and spirit of Brazil, together.
I' m from Germany, sports and travel addicted, I want join the Rio Marathon Running on 19.6 and enjoy the city and have fun, too.
BTW. Did not booked accommodation, yet. Just looking on booking.com, now.
Any comments and suggestion will be appreciated, regarding girl friendly hotels or maybe better private accommodations.
(some private places say explicit now guests (esp. Special girls) allowed.
In Europe or Asia this is not a problem, actually.
See you.Tried to send you a PM about a Rio WhatsApp group that you could join but you can't receive PMs. You may want to buy a membership so that you can receive PMs.
Jefferson1993
06-04-22, 02:24
I appreciate that brother, will do. Thank you for the advice. I'll definitely keep that in mind going forward; makes sense.
Here is one rule that I usually follow and regret every time I make an exception: no duplas with strangers.
Take two perfectly good girls, but when they're together, they tend to slack off, stay on their phones, try to cut the session short etc.
On the other hand, duplas can be a lot of fun when you ask a girl you've been 'dating' to bring a friend.
Starting a timer. Come on. What a romance killer, LOL.
As to condoms, you need to look at it from their prospective. For them, sharing the same condom with you is like doing it bareback with each other. Now, many girls don't mind barebacking, but I think we should respect those who do..
AndreSingle
06-04-22, 03:47
I've been trying to but the website sucks. It's a shame cause ID love to monger around with you guys this month.
Tried to send you a PM about a Rio WhatsApp group that you could join but you can't receive PMs. You may want to buy a membership so that you can receive PMs.
Whittaker A
06-04-22, 06:19
Hello all,
In RJ for a couple days. I'm staying at a spot that's not girl friendly in Copacabana. Any suggestions for any ladies who do incalls? Don't speak any Portuguese, so I know that limits me. First time mongering in Brazil, so I know that limits me. Thanks!
DavidLuvsPussy
06-04-22, 17:29
Hello all,
In RJ for a couple days. I'm staying at a spot that's not girl friendly in Copacabana. Any suggestions for any ladies who do incalls? Don't speak any Portuguese, so I know that limits me. First time mongering in Brazil, so I know that limits me. Thanks!Go to the termas bro. Your in Brazil.
As has been noted by many an experienced monger before, the key is to go with two girls who are really into each other. And then your problem will be resolved. Choose a girl you like. But then let her choose a girl she likes. And then you're off to the races! I have not done a lot of duplas, but I've scored home runs when I have. I've had a lot of success in Spain, but the first dupla I ever did was in Rio. I liked it so much, I did it twice, then named my picture report "Dupla, Dupla" LOL! It all went down at Centaurus, and one of those girls would go on to become my favorite Brazilian tute of all time.Oh yeah. In a terma this is the best way to get a quality dupla. But it's pricey and not enough time, IMHO, to enjoy it to the fullest. But the general idea isn't much different. Let a girl you like and trust somewhat bring her own friend. I don't do duplas often but it works every time for me, well almost.
Hello all,
In RJ for a couple days. I'm staying at a spot that's not girl friendly in Copacabana. Any suggestions for any ladies who do incalls? Don't speak any Portuguese, so I know that limits me. First time mongering in Brazil, so I know that limits me. Thanks!Termas. Boates. Prives / Terapias. Love motels. And of course incall escorts (acompanhantes). Think of your situation as a chance to explore your options, rather than something that hinders your activities, LOL. Gparena.net is where you'll find more suggestions than an army of mongers will ever be able to utilize.
Go to the termas bro. Your in Brazil.Obviously someone who did not RTFF. Hence the importance of spending sometime reading the forum. One can learn an awful lot.
Here is one rule that I usually follow and regret every time I make an exception: no duplas with strangers.
Take two perfectly good girls, but when they're together, they tend to slack off, stay on their phones, try to cut the session short etc.
On the other hand, duplas can be a lot of fun when you ask a girl you've been 'dating' to bring a friend.
Starting a timer. Come on. What a romance killer, LOL.
As to condoms, you need to look at it from their prospective. For them, sharing the same condom with you is like doing it bareback with each other. Now, many girls don't mind barebacking, but I think we should respect those who do.
Anyway, keep them coming.
By the way, I agree with your praise for Carla (Eden). One of the nicest girls I've been with. Can't go wrong with that one.As for duplas, my own experience has taught me that I have a roughly 80% success rate when allowing the garota I already know well from previous encounters, choose who she likes. Also makes the whole recruitment process much easier for me. My chick already knows what I find attractive, and knows what I enjoy to do. On the other hand, I have an 80% crash and burn rate of dupla experiences when I push the issue and play match maker. Obviously, money talks and can make things happen. However, creating a higher probability for chemistry for everyone involved and having a genuinely good time is priceless. These experiences were not limited to one place. It applied to Termas, Prives, or in the non GDP world as well. Enjoy!
Hello all,
In RJ for a couple days. I'm staying at a spot that's not girl friendly in Copacabana. Any suggestions for any ladies who do incalls? Don't speak any Portuguese, so I know that limits me. First time mongering in Brazil, so I know that limits me. Thanks!I think you should start by reading previous posts which are informative and entertaining. There is a wealth of knowledge being shared in this forum which can benefit you greatly. For example, if you would have done some reading prior to your trip, you would at this moment be staying at a girl friendly location. You would also be able to slip 20r bill to a doorman or someone similar, so they can call whatever agency (agencies that have been mentioned in previous posts), and can speak in portuguese to request whatever it is you are interested in. I think you get the gist of what I am trying to say. Good luck!!
Vagabundo1
06-07-22, 16:08
Let's talk about tech.
Well I banged homegirl yesterday and will again today, and we will go hiking tomorrow. She wins the gringo sweepstakes because she likes doing the same things like hiking as vagabundo.
I also got my all time favorite device working, chromecast! I highly recommend getting a chromecast, and the best travel notebook is a chromebook, and a good backup if you bring a work laptop, a higher end gamer or macbook air or similar.
Chromecast allows you to use your cell phones and even a laptop as a smart tv controller.
She can play her Netflix, and I can play my kink.com and evilangel.com.
Genius!
Second that! I will also be in Rio for two weeks starting 6/17. Jimmy, would love to be in that whatsapp group! Taco.
Tried to send you a PM about a Rio WhatsApp group that you could join but you can't receive PMs. You may want to buy a membership so that you can receive PMs.
Looking for the best dark girl / african Termas. I have the following on my list but need help locating them. Had no luck on my first trip but headed back later this month (June 17-July 1st. Ipanema). Also open for drinks with anyone else in town.
Terma T-116.
Darkside.
RB 156.
Addresses? Map?
Thanks.
Taco.
Second that! I will also be in Rio for two weeks starting 6/17. Jimmy, would love to be in that whatsapp group! Taco.Send your number to JB99 or me. You probably will get a guide to some of the places you want to go too. They are all in walking distance to each other except hours are different.
Vagabundo1
06-10-22, 11:26
Thursday.
I headed into centro on the 14 h20 luxury bus from the barra love pad.
I hit many of the centro prives.
Casa 15 is telling me that Noemie Bilas is back, so there is that.
I dropped by Darkroom. Manu, new, is hot af. Haven't tried her yet. Maya no longer works there. This is par for the course. Girls turn over there every few months.
I ended up with a regular prive girl over in TDM33.50 reais for 20 minutes.
I hopped on the luxury bus back to barra.
I was going to meet up with an ISGer for drinks later but I was just a little under the weather. And I like the luxury bus, which is appealing in this city which is a world unto itself of economic divides.
And so it goes.
Long time lurker, first time poster. So here goes.
Hey I'm the, and I'm an alcoholic.
In Rio for a few days, staying in a hotel in Copa.
Decided to head over the Eden Spa after hearing good things on here and on GParena.
Located the place fairly easily on google maps, large white double gateway in the centre of a building, number clearly visible above.
Walked past on a Thursday evening, some guy stood out front handing out business cards for Eden.
The building seemed fairly busy, lots of people coming and going through the gate. Not a fan of a busy Casa, and honestly wasn't massively in the mood, so decided to keep walking and find a beer.
Friday morning broke, and after a light breakfast decided to walk the couple of hundred meters back over at around 12 pm. No one out front this time, but people were coming and going through the gate so just walked in.
Was already open so didn't need to buzz. At this point I realized how many legit businesses were operating from the building; so needn't have been sketched out the previous evening as the people I saw were unlikely to be patrons of Eden.
Saw a list of businesses on the wall to the left as I walked in, saw Eden as the only one on floor 4; 401.
Headed to the lift and went straight up. Eden is on the left as you walk out of the lifts.
Had to ring the bell, and was quickly let in by the smiling hostess. Quick spray of sanitiser on the hands and was shown into a discreet booth.
She spoke sufficient English to explain how the place worked. Presentation, then shower, then service, then shower.
120 for 20 minutes, 150 for half hour, 200 for hour. No mention of a charge for viewing the presentation but not partaking. Beers and soft drinks were on offer for a fee.
Presentation was around 6 or 7 girls, all white. Filed in one by one, said their name, quick kiss on each cheek. Up to the client to remember their names; no numbers.
I went with Nicole for half an hour, probably the oldest lass on show, around 29-30. Spinner physique, long dark hair with glasses, native to Rio.
After I told the hostess my choice she showed me to a room and asked me to wait.
Very clear at this point that there were at least 5 more girls onsite and with clients judging by the sounds. But only audible in the hallway and couldn't hear anyone else when in the room.
Nicole appeared after a minute with a towel sealed in a plastic bag and showed me to the shower. I'd already kicked my shoes and socks off at this point, so the hurried away to grab me some flipflops. Before she showed me down the hall to the shower room she went to check it was unoccupied, then she shouted something in Portuguese to let the other lasses know to keep their clients in their rooms; a nice touch so you never see another punter.
Shower was clean, hot, and private, with plenty of soap on offer. Nicole waited outside.
When I'd finished and was ready to head back to the room, she shouted the warning again.
Back in the room she checked I was happy, a bit of small talk, she put a fresh sheet on the bed, then phoned the hostess to say we we were starting.
Straight to DFK, mutual OWO, then covered sex.
Nicole was truly excellent, passionate kisser, very receptive to oral and clearly got off a couple of time even in the half hour. Superb BJ with plenty of deep throat and spit.
Honestly glad I've lurked here long enough to know to not go with the youngest lass on show haha.
Phone briefly rang bang on the half hour mark.
So yeah finished up and back to the shower, the now standard warning shouted down the hall. She waited outside again.
Back to the room to dress, a couple of minutes more chat, then shown out.
Hostess sincerely asks me how it was. Could probably tell by the smile on my face that it was very good indeed.
Clean, discreet and well run establishment. Will be returning.
Appreciate this forum and hope to contribute more, will post some retrospective reports of Thailand, Bogota and Medellin when time allows if anyone's interested.
Well I tried to reach out to you guys for advice and help but no one got back to me. It was not a problem because of the amazing writing that You guys have done over the last few months that provided a plethora of information if anyone needs any help just let me know I just left a couple of Days ago so my information will be fresh. Once again thank you guys for providing so much information on the forum it helped tremendously. I will say I was able to spend time I'm with ladies for only a 150 real. I was expecting the price to be more you more from some of the some of the responses are bounces on this forum but that was the right I was given. The only time I spent more than a 150 real was for an added backdoor hole.
TiaVoyage25
06-12-22, 05:28
Hope everyone is enjoying themselves in Rio. I sure miss the place.
I read several pages back that 4 x4 was shut down by local authorities back in April, but a few days later I saw that someone said they had visited in May. Can anyone who has been on ground recently confirm if it is still open or not?
Cheers,
TIA.
Well I tried to reach out to you guys for advice and help but no one got back to me.It's not personal. Newbie inquiries like "Hey, I'm going to Rio in a week and I need info on. " often get ignored. You have to appreciate that established members aren't going to start at square one every time a new guy comes on to the thread with a very common query that has been discussed extensively.
Vagabundo1
06-12-22, 18:45
Rio Gringo Minimum Capabilities Bag.
Vagabundo put this together for a ISGer who is coming into town.
Safety alert: a ISGer was robbed at knife point in centro a few weeks back. Lesson is do not look at your phone while walking. I gave the ISGer a loaner phone and a flashlight until he left. Also buddy up!
https://bombeirovagabundo.wordpress.com/2022/06/12/gringo-minimum-capabilities-bag/
https://youtu.be/Y1vSf_gHbmA
BigBangLover
06-12-22, 19:08
Hi Rio Fans,
So I read lot her about Termas Eden Spa, 4x4, Monte Carlo etc, but seems not much visits to Centaurus from you guys.
I m curious about Centaurus.
I know its maybe the most luxurious and most expensive establishment in Rio.
But seems, as I read on other sources, it was in the past, especially on weekends with impressive Line-Up and model look girls.
Sometimes possible to find new young girls just coming into this business, who just there on weekends for extra money.
Also, the atmosphere and mood of the girls seems to be higher.
This is what I m looking for, model look from 7/10, young girls.
Sure, it can be expensive for Brazil standards.
But, I will definitely check it out on my vacation this month from 18.6.
Maybe, you have other information or opinion?
Ciau.
HarvestBoi
06-12-22, 19:09
It's the general nature of these requests that gets them ignored. When I'm traveling to a new area, I RTFF to a reasonable degree (going back beyond 6 months usually isn't fruitful) and then try to ask specific questions about a venue, girl etc. I find that guys with granular local knowledge are then more likely to respond. Reports of Distinction, not used so much today, are also valuable. But to read a post like "Hey I'm coming to xxxx, where can I find girls" my response is "don't ask me to do more work than you".
It's not personal. Newbie inquiries like "Hey, I'm going to Rio in a week and I need info on. " often get ignored. You have to appreciate that established members aren't going to start at square one every time a new guy comes on to the thread with a very common query that has been discussed extensively..
Well I tried to reach out to you guys for advice and help but no one got back to me. It was not a problem because of the amazing writing that You guys have done over the last few months that provided a plethora of information if anyone needs any help just let me know I just left a couple of Days ago so my information will be fresh. Once again thank you guys for providing so much information on the forum it helped tremendously. I will say I was able to spend time I'm with ladies for only a 150 real. I was expecting the price to be more you more from some of the some of the responses are bounces on this forum but that was the right I was given. The only time I spent more than a 150 real was for an added backdoor hole.Glad you had fun. I'm sure your report will be very appreciated.
Hope everyone is enjoying themselves in Rio. I sure miss the place.
I read several pages back that 4 x4 was shut down by local authorities back in April, but a few days later I saw that someone said they had visited in May. Can anyone who has been on ground recently confirm if it is still open or not?
Cheers,
TIA.It's open and bursting at the seams (at least was back in March).
Vagabundo1
06-14-22, 16:31
Vagabundo gave the below items including a taser flashlight to a ISGer on Sunday night. He used the taser flashlight to actually put two attackers on the ground after he left 4 x 4. This occurred at about 22 h on Monday at the intersection of Av Pres Vargas and Av Rio Branco. You can find the taser flashlight in the popular mercado at Metro Uruguiana on the alley that continues Rua Alfandega at the knife shop across from the smoke shop, which BTW also has good cheap bongs for 30 r. Vagabundo will be maintaining a few spare loaner taser flashlights which cost 70 r.
Be careful out there.
Vagabundo would have been glad to be a wingman but he was wifed up in Transamerica, but will be sending her home for a few days later this week.
Rio Gringo Minimum Capabilities Bag.
Vagabundo put this together for a ISGer who is coming into town.
Safety alert: a ISGer was robbed at knife point in centro a few weeks back. Lesson is do not look at your phone while walking. I gave the ISGer a loaner phone and a flashlight until he left. Also buddy up!
https://bombeirovagabundo.wordpress.com/2022/06/12/gringo-minimum-capabilities-bag/
https://youtu.be/Y1vSf_gHbmA
Vagabundo gave the below items including a taser flashlight to a ISGer on Sunday night. He used the taser flashlight to actually put two attackers on the ground after he left 4 x 4. This occurred at about 22 h on Monday at the intersection of Av Pres Vargas and Av Rio Branco. You can find the taser flashlight in the popular mercado at Metro Uruguiana on the alley that continues Rua Alfandega at the knife shop across from the smoke shop, which BTW also has good cheap bongs for 30 r. Vagabundo will be maintaining a few spare loaner taser flashlights which cost 70 r.
Be careful out there.The corner of Avenida Presidente Vargas and Rio Branco is not a good place to be at night after business hours. I myself just head directly into an Uber when leaving 4 x 4. Newbies should take caution.
What's your take on walking around Centro at night VB?
I'm in town from Southern California for the next couple weeks. My 3rd time in Brazil but my first time being let off the leash. I will at least be out on the town for each NHL game (tonight included) and the remaining NBA finals games.
Last time I was here I watched all of my American sports at "Blue Agave" and ate their shitty Mexican food. Brazilians truly have no taste for spice. I swear my wife thinks root beer is too spicy.
Unfortunately, the Blue Agave is closed down so I will likely be watching sports at Mabs or some other expat tourist trap. I have read a lot of reviews on this forum in regards to the ladies (or, lack thereof) at Mabs, but I am mostly interested in high quality TVs that will have American sports. Any other suggestions to watch American sports are definitely welcome!!
Sadly, my budget for mongering is capped at about $1,000 USD (liquid cash). But I have much more to spend on food and bar tabs. I'm definitely looking to sample at least one Terma, and as many massage parlors as possible.
I would also like to go out in Baja Tijuca to the night clubs a bit if any of the younger guys need a wing man, let me know! Either way I am down to meet up with anyone who is like minded regardless of age. I'm a fairly young 36.
Sort of a long shot, but I brought my 2 FPV drones here with me in case anyone needs a real wing man and down to fly!
Vagabundo1
06-17-22, 14:33
Assault AAR.
1. I agree. Take the uber from 4 x4. That is the first lesson learned. The victim here was walking to Windsor in order to avoid the problem where Uber cancels the user for getting picked up at the terma.
2. Do not take out cell phone (see previous assault on Pres Vargas in centro). The victim here took out his cell to call the uber to Windsor, a saved place.
3. Do buddy up. The victim here was alone.
4. Use of the taser. The victim here did use the taser. The attacker was tased to the body, and then to the neck, which put the attacker on the ground. The second attacker, not deterred, was also tased to the body. So, practice with and be able to use the taser flashlight, which is non lethal (though the flashlight is built to have a knife edge which can be used, so it is really a good single device for escalation of force = A) the light, b) the taser, C) the knife edge).
5. Carry a bottle, as Executive Talent has said. When I am walking in a high threat area like centro at night or VM anytime, in one hand I carry both the flashlight taser with a wrist strap, and a bottle, plastic o glass. A bottle is a great non lethal or possibly lethal item. A plastic bottle can be thrown, and a glass bottle can be broken and used to cut. I hate to be too graphic, but the reality is that Rio is a city at war, at war between rich and poor. It is the off season, and the poor are getting more desperate.
6. Immediate action. If you are injured, you should carry a bandage (a boxing hand wrap is a good dual use item), tourniquet (a belt) and know how to call and get to medical help. The local numbers are 190 for police, 193 for firemen, 192 for ambulance. Given response times, it would be better probably to take a cab or uber to the best trauma hospital, which is at Central, about 100 meters South of Central metro.
The corner of Avenida Presidente Vargas and Rio Branco is not a good place to be at night after business hours. I myself just head directly into an Uber when leaving 4 x 4. Newbies should take caution.
What's your take on walking around Centro at night VB?
Hi Rio Fans,
So I read lot her about Termas Eden Spa, 4x4, Monte Carlo etc, but seems not much visits to Centaurus from you guys.
I m curious about Centaurus.
I know its maybe the most luxurious and most expensive establishment in Rio.
But seems, as I read on other sources, it was in the past, especially on weekends with impressive Line-Up and model look girls.
Sometimes possible to find new young girls just coming into this business, who just there on weekends for extra money.
Also, the atmosphere and mood of the girls seems to be higher.
This is what I m looking for, model look from 7/10, young girls.
Sure, it can be expensive for Brazil standards..Cent is not the most expensive anymore. But be careful if you do an hour. It goes to r900. R600 for 40 I think. You also do not pay as you walk in anymore. You pay girl / bar fee before you go up to room though. Entry and drinks upon exit. Girls are aggressive in Cent. Yes the lineup beats the other termas in quality. But you MUST choose carefully. Lots of pros mixed in with the new girls you seek. Many are hit and run. You will need patience and be aggressive back waiting on the one you like. You will be saying no politely a lot. It kind of ruins the fun relaxed atmosphere of a terma run but the quality is there.
The Critic
06-17-22, 21:47
Hope everyone is enjoying themselves in Rio. I sure miss the place.
I read several pages back that 4 x4 was shut down by local authorities back in April, but a few days later I saw that someone said they had visited in May. Can anyone who has been on ground recently confirm if it is still open or not?
Cheers,
TIA.Any update??
Vagabundo1
06-17-22, 22:32
7. Do wear a local soccer shirt. I gave the victim a flamengo shirt. He should have worn it. A guy wearing a flamengo shirt (or better vasco, of course) who is not carrying a cell phone openly is not an attractive victim because he does not profile as a gringo / tourist / target. The victim insists on wearing Nascar and other obvious gringo shirts. Which makes him a target AND makes anyone he is with a target. Don't get me started on overpaying at 4 x4, which of course has been litigated to death on these pages.
Assault AAR.
1. I agree. Take the uber from 4x4. That is the first lesson learned. The victim here was walking to Windsor in order to avoid the problem where Uber cancels the user for getting picked up at the terma.
2. Do not take out cell phone (see previous assault on Pres Vargas in centro). The victim here took out his cell to call the uber to Windsor, a saved place.
3. Do buddy up. The victim here was alone.
4. Use of the taser. The victim here did use the taser. The attacker was tased to the body, and then to the neck, which put the attacker on the ground. The second attacker, not deterred, was also tased to the body. So, practice with and be able to use the taser flashlight, which is non lethal (though the flashlight is built to have a knife edge which can be used, so it is really a good single device for escalation of force = A) the light, b) the taser, C) the knife edge).
5. Carry a bottle, as Executive Talent has said. When I am walking in a high threat area like centro at night or VM anytime, in one hand I carry both the flashlight taser with a wrist strap, and a bottle, plastic o glass. A bottle is a great non lethal or possibly lethal item. A plastic bottle can be thrown, and a glass bottle can be broken and used to cut. I hate to be too graphic, but the reality is that Rio is a city at war, at war between rich and poor. It is the off season, and the poor are getting more desperate.
6. Immediate action. If you are injured, you should carry a bandage (a boxing hand wrap is a good dual use item), tourniquet (a belt) and know how to call and get to medical help. The local numbers are 190 for police, 193 for firemen, 192 for ambulance. Given response times, it would be better probably to take a cab or uber to the best trauma hospital, which is at Central, about 100 meters South of Central metro.
Any update??It is business as usual according to local WA group report.
JohnnyWalker55
06-19-22, 00:16
With all due respect, vagabundo is out of his mind.
Spent over 8 months in rio / SP so far.
If you are a gringo, wearing a flamengo shirt will do nothing. You will still stick out like a gringo with a flamengo shirt.
Using a taser is absolutely ridiculous. You shouldn't be in an area like the intersection of ave. Vargas and urugaiana walking on a weeknight at 10 pm in the first place. Leave at sundown.
Rio is mostly safe during the day, just stay in the areas that are busy / populated. Use common sense.
Vagabundo I believe is talking in third person in the posts below, which shows the mental clarity.
He's former military I assume, so take his advice with a grain of salt.
IMO, absolutely do not wear the local "bombeiro" shirts, or anything close to that. It does not help you blend in, as a gringo. Rather, it draws a bigger target.
See my post history if you don't believe me. Just keep to yourself and you'll be fine. But the over-cautionary tales of the fanny pack, taser, flashlight etc. Are absolutely excessive.
Again, if you are a gringo, everyone will know. Just don't wear jewelry or use your cell in public. Everything else is over-precautionary.
Been visiting the centro prives, usually at 11 am and 5 pm daily, all going well. Favorites are dark room in praça olavo bilac and sala 2107 at av 13 de maio (not sure, too lazy to look). It's paradise in rio.
The turnover is huge, half the girls I saw last month aren't working prives now. Use good hygeine, be a gentleman, and you'll get better service than 80% of the clients.
Just my two cents.
JW.
Vagabundo1
06-19-22, 05:42
Senor JohnnyWalker,
With all respect:
I was not describing what happened to me. I was describing what actually happened to a ISG friend who is in town.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion. I am just reporting facts. The ISGer I reported on a week ago was attacked, and he did use the taser flashlight to defend himself as I described. A month ago, another ISGer friend was also attacked on President Vargas at knife point, late at night, and robbed of a cell phone. I gave him a loaner cell phone.
I've been here 26 straight months now.
Another lesson learned is that Perola Negra in Barra has the same talent, literally, the same girls as 4 x 4, but the area is safe.
Best.
Vagabundo I believe is talking in third person in the posts below, which shows the mental clarity.
JW.
With all due respect, vagabundo is out of his mind.
Spent over 8 months in rio / SP so far.
If you are a gringo, wearing a flamengo shirt will do nothing. You will still stick out like a gringo with a flamengo shirt.
Using a taser is absolutely ridiculous. You shouldn't be in an area like the intersection of ave. Vargas and urugaiana walking on a weeknight at 10 pm in the first place. Leave at sundown.
Rio is mostly safe during the day, just stay in the areas that are busy / populated. Use common sense.
Vagabundo I believe is talking in third person in the posts below, which shows the mental clarity.
He's former military I assume, so take his advice with a grain of salt.
IMO, absolutely do not wear the local "bombeiro" shirts, or anything close to that. It does not help you blend in, as a gringo. Rather, it draws a bigger target.
See my post history if you don't believe me. Just keep to yourself and you'll be fine. But the over-cautionary tales of the fanny pack, taser, flashlight etc. Are absolutely excessive.
Again, if you are a gringo, everyone will know. Just don't wear jewelry or use your cell in public. Everything else is over-precautionary.
JW.Senor Vagabundo is not crazy, but he is indeed ex-military from what I understand. He might also enjoy an occasional adrenalin rush, which doesn't or rather shouldn't appeal to 99.9% of visiting gringos who come to Brazil for only one kind of combat that has nothing to do with tasers, water bottles and knives, IMHO.
Don't try to prove you're a tough guy in Rio, fellows. If you do get assaulted, give them your money and your fucking phone. Make sure it's a shitty phone and not iPhone 13. Make sure you don't have more than $30-60 on you to give them. Make sure you have nothing else that can interest your friendly Rio mugger, like a watch or gold chain. They don't need your life, and you don't need the risk of getting injured or worse.
I have stupidly walked Centro streets at night on multiple occasions and never gotten in trouble. But that's pure luck. Instead, uber everywhere. If there is no Uber, there are cabs standing by at every terma. So pay a tiny bit more and travel safely. The cabbies picking you up at a terma won't rip you off. At least I've never had an issue.
By the way, technically speaking, a stun gun is not a taser. Taser can shoot at a distance, but you only have one shot. A stun gun can hit a target multiple times, but it has to be applied DIRECTLY to the body;.
So my understanding is the victim here "tased" the first assailant twice (the body and the neck), while the second assailant just stood there and watched? What if he didn't? What if he stabbed him in the gut or face before getting tased too?
I mean, kudos to that guy, but he got incredibly lucky, IMHO. Unlike VB, I wouldn't recommend anyone to try and replicate his success.
... So my understanding is the victim here "tased" the first assailant twice (the body and the neck), while the second assailant just stood there and watched? What if he didn't? What if he stabbed him in the gut or face before getting tased too?...I think the second guy was also "tased" but was still standing.
The corner of Avenida Presidente Vargas and Rio Branco is not a good place to be at night after business hours. I myself just head directly into an Uber when leaving 4 x 4. Newbies should take caution.
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I think it depends on which corner. If you walk out from 4x4 and do not cross the street, that corner maybe more dangerous. It's nuts to take taxi from 116 to 211 but maybe worth doing if danger is a concern.
Axel Heyst
06-19-22, 14:30
With all due respect, vagabundo is out of his mind.
Spent over 8 months in rio / SP so far.
If you are a gringo, wearing a flamengo shirt will do nothing. You will still stick out like a gringo with a flamengo shirt.
Using a taser is absolutely ridiculous. You shouldn't be in an area like the intersection of ave. Vargas and urugaiana walking on a weeknight at 10 pm in the first place. Leave at sundown.
Rio is mostly safe during the day, just stay in the areas that are busy / populated. Use common sense.
Vagabundo I believe is talking in third person in the posts below, which shows the mental clarity.
He's former military I assume, so take his advice with a grain of salt.
IMO, absolutely do not wear the local "bombeiro" shirts, or anything close to that. It does not help you blend in, as a gringo. Rather, it draws a bigger target.
See my post history if you don't believe me. Just keep to yourself and you'll be fine. But the over-cautionary tales of the fanny pack, taser, flashlight etc. Are absolutely excessive.
Again, if you are a gringo, everyone will know. Just don't wear jewelry or use your cell in public. Everything else is over-precautionary.
Been visiting the centro prives, usually at 11 am and 5 pm daily, all going well. Favorites are dark room in praa olavo bilac and sala 2107 at av 13 de maio (not sure, too lazy to look). It's paradise in rio.
The turnover is huge, half the girls I saw last month aren't working prives now. Use good hygeine, be a gentleman, and you'll get better service than 80% of the clients.
Just my two cents.
JW.Great post JW with a couple of solid tips to boot. The main point is just use your common sense. Avoid empty, dark streets late at night. Use Uber. It is a reliable, cost effective way to get around town. I wear solid color t-shirts & jeans every night and people do not know that I am an American until I open my mouth begin to speak.
Here is a great "with all due respect" clip from Talladego Nights:. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af-Id_fuXFA.
Great post JW with a couple of solid tips to boot. The main point is just use your common sense. Avoid empty, dark streets late at night. Use Uber. It is a reliable, cost effective way to get around town. ...I think all the replies miss this point.
Assault AAR.
1. I agree. Take the uber from 4 x4. That is the first lesson learned. The victim here was walking to Windsor in order to avoid the problem where Uber cancels the user for getting picked up at the terma....The rest of the replies to this post seem inconsequential.
The reason he walked is not he did not take Uber. He was walking to a location where Uber pickup is more reliable, less cancelation. Last time 4 of us called Uber from 4 x4, the Uber came and canceled right in front of us. Probably it is easier to just take the taxi from 4 x4 to avoid cancellation.
Jimmy Boy 99
06-19-22, 18:59
The reason he walked is not he did not take Uber. He was walking to a location where Uber pickup is more reliable, less cancelation. Last time 4 of us called Uber from 4 x4, the Uber came and canceled right in front of us. Probably it is easier to just take the taxi from 4 x4 to avoid cancellation.I think the reason Uber drivers don't want to pick up passengers in front of 4 x4 or other termas may be that they don't want to piss of the taxi drivers waiting at the termas for potential customers leaving the termas.
Vagabundo1
06-19-22, 19:51
Ipanema video.
https://youtu.be/007jQf7_gqk
For those of you into history, Brazil's diplomat Sergio (see the netflix movie with wagner mouro) was filmed at arpoador. The particular culture of Brazil and rio is reflected by Sergio, who should have been listened to by the ignorant Americans. We Swiss, particularly the swiss French, consider the arrogant yanquis with utter disdain!
ShinyCrazy
06-19-22, 21:22
With all due respect, vagabundo is out of his mind.
Spent over 8 months in rio / SP so far.
If you are a gringo, wearing a flamengo shirt will do nothing. You will still stick out like a gringo with a flamengo shirt.
Using a taser is absolutely ridiculous. You shouldn't be in an area like the intersection of ave. Vargas and urugaiana walking on a weeknight at 10 pm in the first place. Leave at sundown.
Rio is mostly safe during the day, just stay in the areas that are busy / populated. Use common sense.
Vagabundo I believe is talking in third person in the posts below, which shows the mental clarity.
He's former military I assume, so take his advice with a grain of salt.
IMO, absolutely do not wear the local "bombeiro" shirts, or anything close to that. It does not help you blend in, as a gringo. Rather, it draws a bigger target.
See my post history if you don't believe me. Just keep to yourself and you'll be fine. But the over-cautionary tales of the fanny pack, taser, flashlight etc. Are absolutely excessive.
Again, if you are a gringo, everyone will know. Just don't wear jewelry or use your cell in public. Everything else is over-precautionary.
Been visiting the centro prives, usually at 11 am and 5 pm daily, all going well. Favorites are dark room in praa olavo bilac and sala 2107 at av 13 de maio (not sure, too lazy to look). It's paradise in rio.
The turnover is huge, half the girls I saw last month aren't working prives now. Use good hygeine, be a gentleman, and you'll get better service than 80% of the clients.
Just my two cents.
JW.This is encouraging. I was starting to rethink my plans for Rio. I have mongered just about everywhere: Europe, SE Asia, Colombia, Caribbean, but only in Bogota did I feel slightly at risk. I just tried to keep my mongering to the touristy and "safe" parts of Bogota. I'm not interested in risking my life, when I could get a beautiful girl in Spain or Pattaya. Currently, I'm thinking of staying in Copa (likely the Hilton, for points) and going to Eden Spa and Termas Monte Carlo or Centaurus during the day, and MABs or an escort at night. That seems like the safest option. If I'm feeling like the risks are overblown, I'll add the Centro Prives during the day. Anyone else have an opinion on the best day game and night game for first timers in Rio, particularly those of us who don't want to carry a taser?
Vagabundo1
06-19-22, 21:54
One thing I like to do is to go by 4 x 4 at closing time, 23 h or later, and just wait outside, and get numbers from the girls as they leave.
Of course, I get the evil eye from the owners who know me as DJ Vagabundo, and true to my name, I am a frugal fucker, a cheapo charlie munger o mongering! I usually go over there after some of the cheapie darkside places, like 116. Of course, I always go over to 4 x4 with a few authentic Swiss Naval Infantry and Swiss Naval Intelligence wingmen to avoide getting assaulted, all with our light saber stun flashlights!
All kidding aside, all I am doing is reporting facts. I am just saying what happened so you, the reader, can decide. Perhaps I am crazy to go to places like 116! I do recall seeing my old favorite wingmen, Ready Player 1 and 2 at 116 with the stun flashlight. I was walking down the hall after fucking my girl (for a fraction of 4 x 4 of course), when I heard the stun taser sound, and I poked my head in to see if my wingman was OK. He was. He was just demonstrating the flashlight stun light saber with Suzy, a great 116 fuck, who we all fucked. That is the only security he carried.
I think all the replies miss this point.
The rest of the replies to this post seem inconsequential.
The reason he walked is not he did not take Uber. He was walking to a location where Uber pickup is more reliable, less cancelation. Last time 4 of us called Uber from 4 x 4, the Uber came and canceled right in front of us. Probably it is easier to just take the taxi from 4 x 4 to avoid cancellation.
Axel Heyst
06-19-22, 22:34
This is encouraging. I was starting to rethink my plans for Rio. I have mongered just about everywhere: Europe, SE Asia, Colombia, Caribbean, but only in Bogota did I feel slightly at risk. I just tried to keep my mongering to the touristy and "safe" parts of Bogota. I'm not interested in risking my life, when I could get a beautiful girl in Spain or Pattaya. Currently, I'm thinking of staying in Copa (likely the Hilton, for points) and going to Eden Spa and Termas Monte Carlo or Centaurus during the day, and MABs or an escort at night. That seems like the safest option. If I'm feeling like the risks are overblown, I'll add the Centro Prives during the day. Anyone else have an opinion on the best day game and night game for first timers in Rio, particularly those of us who don't want to carry a taser?ShinyCrazy, there is very little risk to a RJ visitor as long he uses his common sense, stays aware of his surroundings at all times, does not wear expensive watches or gold jewelry, and most importantly "avoids empty, dark streets at night" as I previously posted, which translates into use uber to get around at night (or local taxis as Nounce suggests). I have applied the same caution in Manila which can also be a dangerous place if one chooses not follow the basic rules or is too drunk to pay attention to his surroundings.
RJ Prives: I prefer to skip the afternoon Prives and I go to the Termas at night because for the most part Prive girls just do not have what I am looking for looks wise, but tastes vary. You should probably go to at least one of the recommended Prives and find out for yourself what it is like and then decide if you like them.
Solarium and 4 x 4 are my favorite Termas in RJ. Solarium, because IMHO they have prettiest terma girls and is therefor my favorite terma. 4 x 4 for the party atmosphere. 4 x 4 is a pretty wild scene, in a totally good way, especially on Thursday and Friday nights. I like the joint. Centaurus on occasion has had some girls I found attractive and so I have met some great girls there and had good times, but it is more expensive than other termas. Lastly, I can't recommend Monte Carlo because I have never met a MC girl that I wanted to shag. It has always been a disappointment for me. But things can change weekly / monthly. YMMV.
EverythingBlue
06-19-22, 23:43
This is encouraging. I was starting to rethink my plans for Rio. I have mongered just about everywhere: Europe, SE Asia, Colombia, Caribbean, but only in Bogota did I feel slightly at risk. I just tried to keep my mongering to the touristy and "safe" parts of Bogota. I'm not interested in risking my life, when I could get a beautiful girl in Spain or Pattaya. Currently, I'm thinking of staying in Copa (likely the Hilton, for points) and going to Eden Spa and Termas Monte Carlo or Centaurus during the day, and MABs or an escort at night. That seems like the safest option. If I'm feeling like the risks are overblown, I'll add the Centro Prives during the day. Anyone else have an opinion on the best day game and night game for first timers in Rio, particularly those of us who don't want to carry a taser?Your plan for Rio seems safe. I didn't carry any weapon and survived last year LOL. I stayed at the JW, walked in copa to Monte Carlo and Mabs even at night, but not past 10 pm. I Ubered to 4 x4 twice during the week, no issues either getting in and out at midnight. One time I had to walk to Av. Rio Branco to get the Uber because I was taking a girl back to my hotel and she didn't want us getting on in front of 4 X4, this was past midnight and no issue either.
As far as going to Centro I think daytime is fine, I went twice to Dudas at Av Rio Branco 156 and walked around without issue. Just use common sense and watch where you pull out your phone, lean against a wall if you're worried you'll be approached from behind.
This is encouraging. I was starting to rethink my plans for Rio. I have mongered just about everywhere: Europe, SE Asia, Colombia, Caribbean, but only in Bogota did I feel slightly at risk. I just tried to keep my mongering to the touristy and "safe" parts of Bogota. I'm not interested in risking my life, when I could get a beautiful girl in Spain or Pattaya. Currently, I'm thinking of staying in Copa (likely the Hilton, for points) and going to Eden Spa and Termas Monte Carlo or Centaurus during the day, and MABs or an escort at night. That seems like the safest option. If I'm feeling like the risks are overblown, I'll add the Centro Prives during the day. Anyone else have an opinion on the best day game and night game for first timers in Rio, particularly those of us who don't want to carry a taser?Centro is generally ok during the day, just keep your eyes open. It changes significantly after dark. I would leave before 8:00 PM or so (of whenever it gets dark depending on time of year). If you get caught up in the fun and find yourself there after it's dark, take a taxi where you need to go. And as others have said, take a taxi right from the Terma or wherever you are. Don't be tempted to walk to catch a taxi or Uber. I have walked from 4 X4 to the Metro station after 10 PM and nothing happened. But in retrospect, it was stupid and I wouldn't do it again.
Stay in Copa or Ipanema and hang out there at night. But even in Copa, you have to be careful walking at night if you're on a side side with little foot traffic.
As far as Barra, I wouldn't bother on a short trip. There is actually plenty of action there and it has a very nice beach and it's safe. It's just too out-of-the way for a short-time visitor to bother with.
Vagabundo1
06-20-22, 01:07
Friday, Vagabundo executed a 1 man pussy patrol to bang the below attached bunda at the quintal real hostel across the street from Metro Sao Cristavao.
The cost was $50 reais for her for a half hour, and $15 reais for the room.
Below is an edited transcript of my radio chatter during this patrol.
I started in Centro, then headed out to MassagemTijuca, where there were two doable girls, and then went to Motel Malaga, where I was going to do a girl for 300 reais for 4 hours, but she wanted me to uber her broke ass out from Copa, so I went over to Vila, where I found the best new Chocolate to love at the Hostel Quintal Real for $50 reais for a half hour, BBBJ, but covered full service, with $15 for the room. That hostel had the best talent in the VM area at 16 h. Sometimes all that a man really needs is a quick fuck for 30 minutes for $9. 80 US dollars.
1:11 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: Vagabundo going to massagemtijuca.com.br.
1:12 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: Or her.
1:12 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: At motel.
1:19 PM, 6/17/2022 ISG The Admiral: I can make a nice whip with a few of those braids. Ooouucch!
1:36 PM, 6/17/2022 ISG Kyrawz: Do you have presentation here or you choose girls only on photos?
1:37 PM, 6/17/2022 220608 guardiao do piscina JJ: In person.
1:37 PM, 6/17/2022 220608 guardiao do piscina JJ: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=-22.9142961%2C-43.2272575&z=17&hl=en.
1:37 PM, 6/17/2022 220608 guardiao do piscina JJ: Come meet up.
1:37 PM, 6/17/2022 ISG Kyrawz: can't have my porto classes right now.
1:40 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: Carol.
1:41 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: Ingrid.
1:43 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: Going to motel Malaga.
1:44 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: https://www.hotelmalaga.com.br/.
1:44 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: Address: Rua Barão de Iguatemi 224/230, - Praça the Bandeira. Rio de Janeiro. RJ.
2:36 PM, 6/17/2022 220608 guardiao do piscina JJ:
2:54 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: Plan see is this negra. Hotel Malaga or canario.
2:54 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: I may walk through VM just to see what is on offer.
2:56 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: Natural tits no kids. Had some minor issues in the past. But worth fucking bare.
2:56 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: A good swing girl for a train.
2:58 PM, 6/17/2022 ISG The Admiral: All of them had some type of Emotional Damage coming up. In the Navy we ran Damage Control drills so I can always be of assistance to them.
3:00 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: the key is logistics. To run trains on these girls, rent a Airbnb within 2000 meters of motel Malaga / VM, turn it into a BDSM swing pad.
3:03 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: tijuca is actually a good area, close to centro, better and safer than centro, and has cheap and good even the best prives. I might get an ap here.
3:03 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: I think I am going to head over to vm.
3:08 PM, 6/17/2022 : Great idea.
3:10 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: Sans pena metro. To metro estacio metro. Search Airbnb or quintoandar.
3:14 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: Vagabundo is heading over to VM to round up the usual suspects.
4:11 PM, 6/17/2022 220608 guardiao do piscina JJ: Had a negra SW for 50 + 15 for room.
4:11 PM, 6/17/2022 220608 guardiao do piscina JJ: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=-22.9082582%2C-43.2210274&z=17&hl=en.
4:17 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: https://maps.google.com/maps/search/imperial%20gas/@-22.908461863119793, -43.220993239304185,17 z?hl=en.
Imperial gas.
https://foursquare.com/v/52bec85411d2945c08663759
4:18 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: Hostel Quintal Real.
4:18 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: Best girl today was here.
4:34 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: https://maps.google.com/maps?q=-22.9032624%2C-43.1855776&z=17&hl=en.
4:34 PM, 6/17/2022 Professor Jose: Anyone in Centro?
5:04 PM, 6/17/2022 JJ: Covered. Got her #. 22 . Has a kid. Nova Iguacu. Great ass.
5:04 PM, 6/17/2022]JJ: Heading to centro.
ShinyCrazy
06-20-22, 10:32
Solid useful advice. Thanks!
I switched my hotel from Hilton to JW Marriott based on a private message from another member. I'll add Solarium and consider skipping Monte Carlo, based on your info. Definitely more interested in the charming and naïve GFE cutie, not the hardened porn star.
Thanks again!
EverythingBlue
06-21-22, 00:29
Solid useful advice. Thanks!
I switched my hotel from Hilton to JW Marriott based on a private message from another member. I'll add Solarium and consider skipping Monte Carlo, based on your info. Definitely more interested in the charming and nave GFE cutie, not the hardened porn star.
Thanks again!If possible, try to get an upgraded room at the JW, the standard rooms are a bit small. The breakfast buffet is pretty good, and the rooftop bar can be fun if you get lucky and find some talent hanging around.
Vagabundo1
06-22-22, 21:11
Darkroom.com.br Maya / Amber Lynn plays Ilsa Shewolf of the SS captured by Japanese American Infantry / Tuskeegee Airmen!
So Vagabundo, a Swiss Naval Intel Officer and Historian went and banged Amber Lynn at Darkroom.com.br. While we fucked for 45 solid minutes, the movie that played in his Eurasian head was that the American Japanese American unit captured Ilsa SheWolf of the SS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/442nd_Infantry_Regiment_(United_States).
And we took the captured blond princess down to the mess hall for the maintainers and pilots of the Tuskeegee Airman to take turns on, all the while Vagabundo fucked her in all positions, two to three times each, and finally blew a load all over her pretty blond teutonic belly!
CleanSocks
06-23-22, 03:00
Aren't you tired of hearing yourself speak yet? Same shit different day. Like a record on repeat for two years! Give it a rest bruh.
Vagabundo1
06-23-22, 09:05
Tuesday, Serrano Motel, Suite com Hidro, Nina DePonca.
Homegirl has been away, which is fine. Tuesday, Vagabundo took a ISG wingman who is staying at Transamerica to the central hospital (aguilar, about 100 m South of Central Metro). Then Vagabundo chose among a harem of hunger hoars texting for the privilege of gagging on Vagabundo's 21 centimetros for some dinheiro, and he chose Nina DePonca with her big mulata tits, a consistent theme. Vagabundo walked over to Central at about 12 h, then took the metro to Largo do Machado, and strolled over to Motel Serrano, where Nina met him in recepcion. It had been months, but they had done this before with countless duplas.
The. Cost of the suite was 190 Reais, including the 60 reais executive lunch of shrimp and rice, and included a hidromassagem, which is key, for 4 hours.
We fucked twice, long hot box yoga fucks BBFSCIP and BBFS cum in ass, sucking on those big titties, like John Stagliano's porn stars sucking on the big tits of the actual Nina DePonca, a great porn star of the early 1990's when Buttman was just getting started. It was a solid fuck session, and more than checked the box. Nina Deponca's big mulata tits are a nice set, and compare well with the 19 year old big mulata tits of Pamela, whose knockers Vagabundo sucked while fucking for a solid 30 minutes in Hotel Canario on Sunday night, for 60 for Hotel Canario and 160 for Pamela, who hangs her rack at VM, Casa 3. As Sperto to give the master credit has noted, the hotel canario is far, far better than the rooms at VM. Not that Hotel Canario would ever be mistaken for the JW. But for 40 US Dollars, all in, for a BBFSCIP with a 19 year old with huge natural tits, Hotel Canario is a super spot to know, as it is a easy stroll from VM, and Mosaico. And while the time of year is the Winter Solstice, the worst it gets is a little overcast, but the sunny days are still good beach days, and now there is even a sauna in Transamerica! No, it never gets old. For readers of Vagabundo's exploits from Rich World Pussy Prison, just get down to Rio, and gitter done.
Aren't you tired of hearing yourself speak yet? Same shit different day. Like a record on repeat for two years! Give it a rest bruh.
Vagabundo1
06-23-22, 09:08
Tuesday, Serrano Motel, Suite com Hidro, Nina DePonca.
Homegirl has been away, which is fine. Tuesday, Vagabundo took a ISG wingman who is staying at Transamerica to the central hospital (aguilar, about 100 m South of Central Metro). Then Vagabundo chose among a harem of hunger hoars texting for the privilege of gagging on Vagabundo's 21 centimetros for some dinheiro, and he chose Nina DePonca with her big mulata tits, a consistent theme. Vagabundo walked over to Central at about 12 h, then took the metro to Largo do Machado, and strolled over to Motel Serrano, where Nina met him in recepcion. It had been months, but they had done this before with countless duplas.
The. Cost of the suite was 190 Reais, including the 60 reais executive lunch of shrimp and rice, and included a hidromassagem, which is key, for 4 hours.
We fucked twice, long hot box yoga fucks BBFSCIP and BBFS cum in ass, sucking on those big titties, like John Stagliano's porn stars sucking on the big tits of the actual Nina DePonca, a great porn star of the early 1990's when Buttman was just getting started. It was a solid fuck session, and more than checked the box. Nina Deponca's big mulata tits are a nice set, and compare well with the 19 year old big mulata tits of Pamela, whose knockers Vagabundo sucked while fucking for a solid 30 minutes in Hotel Canario on Sunday night, for 60 for Hotel Canario and 160 for Pamela, who hangs her rack at VM, Casa 3. As Sperto to give the master credit has noted, the hotel canario is far, far better than the rooms at VM. Not that Hotel Canario would ever be mistaken for the JW. But for 40 US Dollars, all in, for a BBFSCIP with a 19 year old with huge natural tits, Hotel Canario is a super spot to know, as it is a easy stroll from VM, and Mosaico. And while the time of year is the Winter Solstice, the worst it gets is a little overcast, but the sunny days are still good beach days, and now there is even a sauna in Transamerica! No, it never gets old. For readers of Vagabundo's exploits from Rich World Pussy Prison, just get down to Rio, and gitter done.
Lover Boy #2
06-23-22, 15:37
Aren't you tired of hearing yourself speak yet? Same shit different day. Like a record on repeat for two years! Give it a rest bruh.Who is that directed at?
Who is that directed at?People with dirty socks.
This was my first trip to Brazil. I spent a few weeks in the south all around the state of Minas Gerias, and some time in Rio. While in Rio I visited a handful of the top termas, a bunch of smaller massage places, and Vila Mimosa. The positive side was that all the girls were very nice, anal was always on the table, BBBJs without asking, and some even wanted BBFS, but I always wrap up for that. The down side was that none of the girls I saw really made me say wow. They just weren't as rocking in the bedroom as I thought they'd be. Many times I ended up taking over as I'm usually rough and like a girl that can match that. One girl actually asked me if I was in the mafia because she said I had prison tattoos. Laughed my ass off, first time I heard that one. For me, I would certainly place the Rio girls above the Central American girls and central South American girls, put them more on par with the Colombians and Vennies. But, they didn't come close to the great experiences I had with the Haitian girls in Sosua, my favorite place in Latin America for girls. Overall, I had a good time, great vistas, very friendly people, and good food. It was well worth a one time visit.
Vagabundo1
06-24-22, 16:46
Can you say more? Please. Anne Amari, my fave porn star, is Haitian, though apparently born in California. Love that chocolate.
But, they didn't come close to the great experiences I had with the Haitian girls in Sosua, my favorite place in Latin America for girls.
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