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Mr Enternational
11-11-22, 20:12
We negotiated some extras and for 1 hour, 2 chicks, and some things I like the total was just under 1000 br. Some might say I didn't get a good deal but for what I pay in Tijuana and other places in Europe I got more bang for my buck than anywhere else.Negotiated what extras? Brazil is not Tijuana or Europe. I do not know what extra you could be negotiating for. Usually everything is included and there is no upcharging.
Negotiated what extras? Brazil is not Tijuana or Europe. I do not know what extra you could be negotiating for. Usually everything is included and there is no upcharging.I had to pay a little extra for a lesbian show with lesbian rimming. It was at a private apartment I found thru the advertisement from a site that is listed here. She found a friend at the same apartment complex. I had to pay a little extra than what she normally charged. Only one experience.
TallDarkUsa
11-12-22, 13:59
Extras included rimming for both them and me, anal (had to pay to get them to do it because I am a man that has been blessed), also got them to cum swap with eachother at the finish. The amount wasn't crazy that's why I said extra. Still saved what I would've spent in Mexico or Germany. Also on my last two post you seem to question everything I say.
Hope you have a wonderful blessed time and not give others such a tough time trying to get some guidance while they figure out new adventures.
Negotiated what extras? Brazil is not Tijuana or Europe. I do not know what extra you could be negotiating for. Usually everything is included and there is no upcharging.
Well boys, all the information is there, but I guess you just need to take the time to look in better detail than I did. Part of the problem is that I had been checking out the website for RJMassagem since the time I started planning this adventure. And after reading everyone's experiences with massages in town, I really thought I would get the same experience wherever I went. I made an appointment with Ciri (at the Copa branch. I mean, hell, it's right across that street from the Eden Spa, and I just read an awesome review from Edan! She came in, gorgeous, lovely body, and gave me a perfectly wonderful nuru style massage. $350. Amazing deal in most places, and was honestly happy with the massage. Enthusiastic handy at the end, but that just doesn't really work for me so after a bit I let her off the hook after 15 min and hoped to move onto greener pastures as the day went on. Unfortunately, it got away from me, and I'm typing this anxiously awaiting tomorrow.
Moral of the story. Want a nice AMP style nuru massage in Rio, RJ in Copa is your spot. Want a chick to suck your face off before she fucks you half to death, I think you should go somewhere else.
Who is ready for some football tomorrow? Dallas vs Packers?
MasterOfNone
11-13-22, 19:09
About 2 and a half weeks out from my 1st visit and this thread has me pretty much in a good position to fully enjoy myself.
I did the research online, Twitter and Google but have found nothing solid. Does anyone know of any Brazilian pornstars in Rio that I would be able to get time with?
Appreciate any information and feel free to DM if need be.
Mr Enternational
11-13-22, 20:52
Does anyone know of any Brazilian pornstars in Rio that I would be able to get time with?What is your definition of a porn star?
MasterOfNone
11-14-22, 14:55
What is your definition of a porn star?I'm speaking specifically of someone we may have seen on video exp: Monica Santhisgo, Darlene Amaro, Elisa Sanchez. (Not these women specifically but in this realm. It's the fantasy of the pornstar right. I've been lucky enough to see quite a few here in the states. Or maybe even some onlyfans Brazilian women in Rio. Seeing thier work before hand is always a nice turn on.
About 2 and a half weeks out from my 1st visit and this thread has me pretty much in a good position to fully enjoy myself.
I did the research online, Twitter and Google but have found nothing solid. Does anyone know of any Brazilian pornstars in Rio that I would be able to get time with?
Appreciate any information and feel free to DM if need be.Elisa Sanches fucks her fans. Check out the Anal Connoisseurs thread for my experience with her. She used to advertise a lot on Rio Sex Site. Maybe she still does (have not looked at it in awhile).
Thinking of heading to Rio a week earlier than planned and just extending my stay for 3 weeks instead of 2.
My airbnb will not be available until my original date of travel so Thinking about staying at Pestana Hotel.
Online reviews are very mixed. Can someone give me a first hand account if this is a nice hotel? Thank you.I've stayed in this hotel a few times and like it very much. Yes the hotel needs to be refurbished but it's good for mongering. I would only stay in the ocean front suite as they are big and best view on the very large balcony in Copacabana.
I'm speaking specifically of someone we may have seen on video exp: Monica Santhisgo, Darlene Amaro, Elisa Sanchez. (Not these women specifically but in this realm. It's the fantasy of the pornstar right. I've been lucky enough to see quite a few here in the states. Or maybe even some onlyfans Brazilian women in Rio. Seeing thier work before hand is always a nice turn on.https://www.private55.com/acompanhantes-rj-rio-de-janeiro
If you scroll down to bottom of page in Rio escorts, Estrela says she's a porn actress.
I was curious about Darlene's recent activity so I read some of the reviews on the local Portuguese language board gpguia. It seems she bounces around between RJ and SP with Rio as her base perhaps. I was skeptical that a 47 year old ass could be as tight as the photoacompanhantes advert, but the very solid positive reviews discuss a gym regimen. In reviewer's words, the ass might not be as large as the porn days but tight.
My personal commentary is that mature women with big asses who use the gym to fight it from falling have very hard asses and legs indeed. Sometimes too much for some tastes.
In any event, Darlene might be porn star experience more than girlfriend experience. She definitely gives up that ass. If recent prices of 250 reals for an hour are still the rate, I don't think you can go wrong if you book her. I seem to recall she has popped up on the radar off and on over the years. I would guess she has regulars and places ads sporadically when her bookings are low. It's also possible she's just in and out of the game. I would still try to validate her identity though before setting up a meeting.
Apparently, she is friends with fellow former big ass porn star Soraya Carioca. I would guess a threesome (dupla) might be possible if you are lucky enough to have them together in the same city. Looks like Soraya is coming to Rio soon.
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/consola%C3%A7ao/atriz-porno-anal-e-local-incluso-em-breve-rj-id-s4bn9
https://twitter.com/sorayacarioca
MasterOfNone
11-14-22, 20:16
I've stayed in this hotel a few times and like it very much. Yes the hotel needs to be refurbished but it's good for mongering. I would only stay in the ocean front suite as they are big and best view on the very large balcony in Copacabana.Thank you for the response. I'm pretty sure this is where I will stay for my first week until I move to the airbnb.
MasterOfNone
11-14-22, 20:18
Elisa Sanches fucks her fans. Check out the Anal Connoisseurs thread for my experience with her. She used to advertise a lot on Rio Sex Site. Maybe she still does (have not looked at it in awhile).Will do! Thanks for the input. Someone like her or a Natasha Lima or Kelly Brazil would be great to come across.
MasterOfNone
11-14-22, 20:30
I was curious about Darlene's recent activity so I read some of the reviews on the local Portuguese language board gpguia. It seems she bounces around between RJ and SP with Rio as her base perhaps. I was skeptical that a 47 year old ass could be as tight as the photoacompanhantes advert, but the very solid positive reviews discuss a gym regimen. In reviewer's words, the ass might not be as large as the porn days but tight.
My personal commentary is that mature women with big asses who use the gym to fight it from falling have very hard asses and legs indeed. Sometimes too much for some tastes.
In any event, Darlene might be porn star experience more than girlfriend experience. She definitely gives up that ass. If recent prices of 250 reals for an hour are still the rate, I don't think you can go wrong if you book her. I seem to recall she has popped up on the radar off and on over the years. I would guess she has regulars and places ads sporadically when her bookings are low. It's also possible she's just in and out of the game. I would still try to validate her identity though before setting up a meeting.
Apparently, she is friends with fellow former big ass porn star Soraya Carioca. I would guess a threesome (dupla) might be possible if you are lucky enough to have them together in the same city. Looks like Soraya is coming to Rio soon.
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/sao-paulo/consola%C3%A7ao/atriz-porno-anal-e-local-incluso-em-breve-rj-id-s4bn9
https://twitter.com/sorayacariocaJust reached out to Darlene so hopefully I can make it happen. This will be one of those old visual fantasies.
Will do! Thanks for the input. Someone like her or a Natasha Lima or Kelly Brazil would be great to come across.I think your best bet is to hit Scandallo in SP and find a new, young star.
Natasha Lima and Kelly were goddesses, but they are so far from their prime. Kelly and other porn girls knocked around Copacabana Beach in the mid-2000's. Not only is that young Kelly lost to time so is that crazy Copa scene. That said you never know when you will run into a Brazilian porn star.
Please keep us updated on your pursuit of Darlene Amaro.
I'm speaking specifically of someone we may have seen on video exp: Monica Santhisgo, Darlene Amaro, Elisa Sanchez. (Not these women specifically but in this realm. It's the fantasy of the pornstar right. I've been lucky enough to see quite a few here in the states. Or maybe even some onlyfans Brazilian women in Rio.
Seeing thier work before hand is always a nice turn on.
Will do! Thanks for the input. Someone like her or a Natasha Lima or Kelly Brazil would be great to come across.
In my experience over the years (...yes wayyyy back in the day...kkkk!), I've ran into and had good to decent sessions with a few Brazilian porn stars in the unlikely of places.
Sessioned with Lorena Aquino (and her cousin) at Termas 502, Rua da Alfandega 65. Sessioned with Manuche (Manush) at Termas Cancun/Manhattan Club. Ran into and chatted up, but did not session with Natasha Lima, at Vila Mimosa (VM) and Kelly Brazil, walking around Terraco Atlantico in front of Help, on a number of occasions. The 4x4 twins at 4x4 (Quatro por Quatro) and Terma Monte Carlo. My latest sighting (several years ago) was an unknown, from one of the Carnaval das Panteras videos, at U24. While other less known or slightly washed-up porn stars, get spotted at various locations all the time.
Today many of the newer Brazilian pornstars, may have more of an online persona/profile and will often advertise they've been in XXX videos. So whether it's online or in the traditional brick and mortar establishments, the point is, they can be found, if you know your Brazilian porn stars.
Especially those from the Big Bubble Butt Brazilian Orgy series, who maybe still in the game. Although, come to think of it, I think I've spotted and sessioned with (unbeknownst to me at the time) more of the "unknown/unnamed porn stars", from the Brazilian Panteras Baile and Carnaval series of XXX videos, than those porn stars found in mainstream XXX videos, like BBBB Orgy.
MasterOfNone
11-15-22, 01:52
I think your best bet is to hit Scandallo in SP and find a new, young star.
Natasha Lima and Kelly were goddesses, but they are so far from their prime. Kelly and other porn girls knocked around Copacabana Beach in the mid-2000's. Not only is that young Kelly lost to time so is that crazy Copa scene. That said you never know when you will run into a Brazilian porn star.
Please keep us updated on your pursuit of Darlene Amaro.I actually connected with Darlene and she said she will be in Rio at my time of visit. If it all goes down properly I will report back how things went.
In my experience over the years (...yes wayyyy back in the day...kkkk!), I've ran into and had good to decent sessions with a few Brazilian porn stars in the unlikely of places.
The 4x4 twins at 4x4 (Quatro por Quatro) and Terma Monte Carlo. .The two big booty lite skin twins with the long black wavy hair? They have been working at 4 X4 for damn near 20+ years, I never knew they did a porno!
The two big booty lite skin twins with the long black wavy hair? They have been working at 4 X4 for damn near 20+ years, I never knew they did a porno!I remember seeing a pair of twins at Meia Pataca a few times. Almost identical, short, quite fat asses (like Icelandic horse asses) and with the same tattoo on the lower back. They seemed to be quite popular at MP. Those are the 4 x 4 twins?
The two big booty lite skin twins with the long black wavy hair? They have been working at 4 X4 for damn near 20+ years, I never knew they did a porno!
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've seen one of them in at least one video. I don't think it was a mainstream video and also don't think they make a career out it, like "real porn stars".
Many of girls I have run into, had roles in lesser known videos, like those "Brazilian Carnaval party" style porn movies (by Pantera, Brasileirinhas, INT, Hardsexy...etc) and were part of the overall crowd, either as porn actors, fillers, fluffers or extras.
FWIW, really wish they would make more of these videos, as this was the party atmosphere, Brazil was famous for having.
Vagabundo1
11-19-22, 12:32
You want (and we porn fans want) fresh porn stars. Eliza Sanches has had surgery to repair her pussy. Not sayin just sayin.
You want a Kelly Oliviera. Or the new Kelly since Kelly now is 2 years into her career and has been to Prague and is filming for companies in Miami, etc. So, stay up on twitter with the bradmontana.com talent.
There is a Eliza Sanches suite in Mosaico. That's where the best new porno talent congregates. Speaking of which, Vagabundo needs to organize a few events out there, maybe for football or other sports events.
Vagabundo1
11-20-22, 16:15
People ask for pornstars. OK, here's one.
https://barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-yasmin-mineira
I fucked her when she was just a new 18 year old for 150 reais in Motel Malaga in 2015. Now, IMHO, she is over priced. The truth is there are always new ones, you just have to be looking -- at the clubs, on the sites like gparena.net, etc.
You want (and we porn fans want) fresh porn stars. Eliza Sanches has had surgery to repair her pussy. Not sayin just sayin.
You want a Kelly Oliviera. Or the new Kelly since Kelly now is 2 years into her career and has been to Prague and is filming for companies in Miami, etc. So, stay up on twitter with the bradmontana.com talent.
There is a Eliza Sanches suite in Mosaico. That's where the best new porno talent congregates. Speaking of which, Vagabundo needs to organize a few events out there, maybe for football or other sports events.
Pahllus Maximus
11-23-22, 01:45
We must all thank the wonderful women who provide so much pleasure.
This evening was a trip to Joatinga Beach after visiting a friend with direct front seaviews. My menage a trois then left via the beach and a discreet BJ at sunset then off for sushi. I've been training them with anatomy and education videos on how to do a real massage, so we are taking turns, and they are getting good at it. My balls are massaged and sucked daily and my butthole teased during BJ. I've lost count how many shots have gone down their throats and their little pink lips wrapped over my namesake, pahllus maximus.
I give thanks, and I believe that if the Pilgims had this sort of treatment America would be a better and calmer place.
Vagabundo1
11-23-22, 12:51
OK, men, so here's the plan.
https://members.evilangel.com/en/video/evilangel/Black-Babes-Lewd-Interracial-Buttfuck/130275
You go and get this hoar, Noemie Bilas, and you bring her down here to Rio for a blowbang on Abrico beach.
I will bring over Yasmin Mineira, and like a team of hoars from Mosaico / 116/ Perola Negra.
We get all tested, and we gangbang the hoars down at the end of the nude beach on a sunny day.
Boom. I will be the fat ugly guy with a black baclava who is ass fucking noemie bilas on a leash.
Then we take those said hoars on the Rio Metro, which is a time machine, back to the year the Puritans came to America, and we get off on that year, and fly up to Boston and have Noemie Bilas fuck those fucking Puritans in the ass with a strapon, while she is giving me a blow job.
Fuck those motehr0 frters.
We must all thank the wonderful women who provide so much pleasure.
This evening was a trip to Joatinga Beach after visiting a friend with direct front seaviews. My menage a trois then left via the beach and a discreet BJ at sunset then off for sushi. I've been training them with anatomy and education videos on how to do a real massage, so we are taking turns, and they are getting good at it. My balls are massaged and sucked daily and my butthole teased during BJ. I've lost count how many shots have gone down their throats and their little pink lips wrapped over my namesake, pahllus maximus.
I give thanks, and I believe that if the Pilgims had this sort of treatment America would be a better and calmer place.
Hi guys,
Want to share my report from trip to Brasil in January this year.
I stayed in 4* hotel at Copacabana. Paid for double room because I was traveling with lads. There were no problems with taking girls to the room. Nobody cares about it.
I used this site: https://erosguia.com.br/rj/acompanhantes/.
Communication is smooth, prices are right but girls who comes to room are not the same as seen on photos. They're not bad tbh. I love Brazilians but they're not the same as on photos.
Better site to use is: https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/ + https://www.gp-guia.net/.
Here you can find comments and reviews for annoucments.
Girls comes to hotel room without any problem or extra payment just need to pay for uber.
100/200 $are are really weak. Much better is trying those more expensive.
I didn't go to discos or clubs because "no habla espanol" and nobody speaks english. Only one ebony girls tried to flitr with me on beach but she wasnt my type.
And last thing maybe the most important if you travel with lad for sure you will be taken as gay. Travel alone or in bigger group of guys.
Hi guys,
Want to share my report from trip to Brasil in January this year.
I stayed in 4* hotel at Copacabana. Paid for double room because I was traveling with lads. There were no problems with taking girls to the room. Nobody cares about it.
I used this site: https://erosguia.com.br/rj/acompanhantes/.Anybody else have any experience with the above-referenced site?
In which hotel where you staying and which are the recommended girl-friendly hotels at the moment? I will travel early January. My favourite apartments all seem to be booked.
Hi guys,
Want to share my report from trip to Brasil in January this year.
I stayed in 4* hotel at Copacabana. Paid for double room because I was traveling with lads. There were no problems with taking girls to the room. Nobody cares about it.
I used this site: https://erosguia.com.br/rj/acompanhantes/.
Communication is smooth, prices are right but girls who comes to room are not the same as seen on photos. They're not bad tbh. I love Brazilians but they're not the same as on photos.
Better site to use is: https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/ + https://www.gp-guia.net/.
Here you can find comments and reviews for annoucments.
Girls comes to hotel room without any problem or extra payment just need to pay for uber.
100/200 $are are really weak. Much better is trying those more expensive.
I didn't go to discos or clubs because "no habla espanol" and nobody speaks english. Only one ebony girls tried to flitr with me on beach but she wasnt my type.
And last thing maybe the most important if you travel with lad for sure you will be taken as gay. Travel alone or in bigger group of guys.
Hi guys,
Want to share my report from trip to Brasil in January this year.
I stayed in 4* hotel at Copacabana. Paid for double room because I was traveling with lads. There were no problems with taking girls to the room. Nobody cares about it.
I used this site: https://erosguia.com.br/rj/acompanhantes/.
Communication is smooth, prices are right but girls who comes to room are not the same as seen on photos. They're not bad tbh. I love Brazilians but they're not the same as on photos.
Better site to use is: https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/ + https://www.gp-guia.net/.
Here you can find comments and reviews for annoucments.
Girls comes to hotel room without any problem or extra payment just need to pay for uber.
100/200 $are are really weak. Much better is trying those more expensive.
I didn't go to discos or clubs because "no habla espanol" and nobody speaks english. Only one ebony girls tried to flitr with me on beach but she wasnt my type.
And last thing maybe the most important if you travel with lad for sure you will be taken as gay. Travel alone or in bigger group of guys.First, neither of these sites is better than another. They're both advertising sites where anyone can buy space and post anything.
Second if you'd done a little more than booking a few escorts, you would've known that 150-200 reals can buy you a wonderful fuck in Rio.
Third, I don't give a shit how the hotel views me when I travel with a buddy, although when I do travel with a buddy we book 2 rooms or a suite, or a 2-bdrm apartment. I'm not staying in a dorm on my cherished, time-limited vacation.
Fourth, you don't "habla Espanol" in Brazil. You either fala Portuguese, or you don't, and it's not a prerequisite of having the time of your life in boites. You should've at least tried.
Finally, you've failed to mention the name of the GF hotel you stayed and that info could be helpful to some folks here. Thus your report has zero value. Although maybe it'll encourage others to do a better job of planning their trip.
If you're for real, I'm sorry to say but you've done the impossible: botched your vacation in the best adult theme park on planet Earth. RTFF next time.
Soon I'll be back in that P4 P paradise known as RdJ for the first time since '19 & I've been scouring this board for useful intel, as usual. One thing I've read, much to my dismay, is that you now have to present photo ID (I. E. Passport) to ride the elevators in RB156? I've spent many, many afternoons like Harrison Ford exploring floor after floor of that building in search of bunda, but I'm just not feelin this idea of having my PP # in some computer just for the 'privilege' of checkin out prives!
For those who've already dealt w / this BS, a few questions:
- I've read conflicting reports on this: in order to get a keycard to ride an elevator, does a foreigner have to give security a physical PP or will a copy / pic do?
- Once you have the card & have ridden the elevator up to a given floor, will the card work to let you go to another floor. Like say from 6 to 9 or 14 to 22?
- Is it correct that once you go back down to the ground floor, the card stops working and you have to present your PP again to get another one in order to use a different elevator?
- Did they lock down the stairs too? IOW, you can still walk freely between floors via the stairwells, right?
This is such a bummer, as I've had many good / great pulls from that bldg over the years! Are there still a bunch of prives operating there or has this ID nonsense caused several to abandon ship?
Vagabundo1
11-24-22, 12:46
Yeah, it's a total buzz kill, and what's worse, they just put in the same fukkid upped ID system at the Darkroom.com.br building, praca Olivia bilac 28 or whatever. Jeezus friggin cristo mother mary and josef take your Brazilian laws and shove them up your Patricio asses!
Some time ago, perhaps in late 2020, I gave the pricks at 156 a copy of my Colombian military ID (retired) for one Colonel Arelan Buendia, the hero of a Marquez novel, one of the greatest novels of human literature, which was from the Swiss naval attache in Rio, and they accepted it. Now, it appears the assholes get more anal about having your real ID. But Onix and all those great little orifices and offices have the allure for we happy few, we Indiana Jones with our whip and USB powered vibrators in bright pink, and it is on balance worth it -- that said, Emporio do banho has no such system, nor does BelPrazer, nor does TDM 33. I suggest going to TDM 33/ up to 3206, and starting any fucking tour by doing a gang bang if you are up for it, or just a individual session with Duda, a dark dark negra law student who is a nasty and hard fuck as well as being a total cum drinking hoar for a bang swing festa. Tell her Vagabundo said Hi! Steph useta lover there, I did, to quote the saw doctors, a great Irish band -- but Steph alas is no more.
And of course, to walk around VM and Massagemtijuca takes no ID.
Soon I'll be back in that P4 P paradise known as RdJ for the first time since '19 & I've been scouring this board for useful intel, as usual. One thing I've read, much to my dismay, is that you now have to present photo ID (I. E. Passport) to ride the elevators in RB156? I've spent many, many afternoons like Harrison Ford exploring floor after floor of that building in search of bunda, but I'm just not feelin this idea of having my PP # in some computer just for the 'privilege' of checkin out prives!
For those who've already dealt w / this BS, a few questions:
- I've read conflicting reports on this: in order to get a keycard to ride an elevator, does a foreigner have to give security a physical PP or will a copy / pic do?
- Once you have the card & have ridden the elevator up to a given floor, will the card work to let you go to another floor. Like say from 6 to 9 or 14 to 22?.
One thing I've read, much to my dismay, is that you now have to present photo ID (I. E. Passport) to ride the elevators in RB156?
- Did they lock down the stairs too? IOW, you can still walk freely between floors via the stairwells, right..I don't know if they still require ID to enter RB 156.
When I do a thorough privê-serach in RB156, RB185 or TDM33 I always go to the top floor and work my way down using the stairs. In RB156 and TDM33 there are fire exit stairs and it goes quick going downstairs. In RB185 you have to use the stairs next to the elevator which is a hassle as the porteiros will shout at you, in the loudspeakers.
Axel Heyst
11-24-22, 18:58
Hi guys,
Want to share my report from trip to Brasil in January this year. <snip>
I stayed in 4* hotel at Copacabana. Paid for double room because I was traveling with lads. There were no problems with taking girls to the room. Nobody cares about it.
I used this site: https://erosguia.com.br/rj/acompanhantes/.
Communication is smooth, prices are right but girls who comes to room are not the same as seen on photos. They're not bad tbh. I love Brazilians but they're not the same as on photos.
Better site to use is: https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/ + https://www.gp-guia.net/.
<snip>
I didn't go to discos or clubs because "no habla espanol" and nobody speaks english. Morales85, this is just a friendly suggestion, but the next time you visit RJ or perhaps SP, if there is a next time, KKK, you really should check out the Termas (RJ) and the Boates (SP). IMHO this is where you will find the best working girls each city respectively has to offer, and the main advantage is that you get to see the girls and socialize with them before making any decisions. Language is not a problem in these bordellos thanks to Google Translate. The girls are used to dealing with Gringos and some even prefer them.
Back in April / May 2021 on my 1st visit to Brazil, the bordellos were all closed except for the SP Clinicas which somehow remained open. Thank Buddha. So, I had to little choice other than making use of a few well-known call girl sites. Fortunately, I met a bunch of very attractive girls on the high-end call girl sites such as BarraVips, MClass, and ClubModel. Prices were generally 2 x more on the high-end sites compared to the sites you mentioned, but I experienced no bait & switch and the girls I asked over were all of very high quality plus they gave me some memorable sessions. I am still in touch with a couple of these girls to this day even though the Boates (SP) and Termas (RJ) have reopened and have resumed being my main hunting ground.
One more thing you might want to consider: RJ may just not be your kind of town. It is a cool place, but there are several world class destinations that are arguably a lot better than RJ like SP, Pattaya, BKK, Jakarta, and Macau. On my most recent Oct / Nov Brazil trip I stayed in SP exclusively except for a 3-day Maresias beach break which I took with my favorite Scandallo girl. I did not miss the Termas one little bit. In any case, there are 3 reasons why I have already booked a 5th trip to SP in May / June: 1. I dig Brazilian girls, 2. I have a special SP girl (the girl I took to Maresias) whom I am very fond of and want to see again, and 3. It is a 8-hour non-stop flight to SP from MIA vs. A 24-hour flight to BKK.
I use my original second firearms licence in lieu of a passport where ever there is a need for an ID, and have copies of other original documents on me should anyone wants to verify them.
MasterOfNone
11-25-22, 04:18
6 days and counting until my first visit to Rio! On this day I am thankful for all of the knowledge you guys have shared and I hope to contribute to the forum after my 3 week visit!
Yes, they asked for ID and only then gave out the elevator turnstile entrance card. The elevator goes to the top floor after which you have to take another elevator to get to the clinica.
Supposedly you have to return the big key card to the receptionist on leaving. Without the card, you can't exit the turnstile after coming back down to the lobby floor. It was a rather interesting learning experience for me as I didn't know that and dropped the card in the turnstile slot while I was going up and was locked in after coming back down to lobby. The security guard had to go and get the girl from the reception desk to give me an annoying look and get me out. Live and learn.
I don't know if they still require ID to enter RB 156.
When I do a thorough priv-serach in RB156, RB185 or TDM33 I always go to the top floor and work my way down using the stairs. In RB156 and TDM33 there are fire exit stairs and it goes quick going downstairs. In RB185 you have to use the stairs next to the elevator which is a hassle as the porteiros will shout at you, in the loudspeakers.
Eszpresszo
11-26-22, 02:31
Back in April / May 2021 on my 1st visit to Brazil, the bordellos were all closed except for the SP Clinicas which somehow remained open. Thank Buddha. So, I had to little choice other than making use of a few well-known call girl sites. I was in SP, Rio, and Florianopolis in May of 2021. Everything was open. Business as usual. I'm attaching my passport stamp to show that I'm not blowing smoke up your ass. Blowing smoke meaning talk like " there are several world class destinations that are arguably a lot better than RJ like SP. " You mean Sao Paulo? It's a nasty, ugly dump. It's the only place in the world where I use the flashlight on my cell phone at night, to ensure I don't set into human feces left on the sidewalk by the ever growing army of mendigos. Certainly SP is a great place for punting, and definitely the port of entry most of us need to arrive in Brazil in 2022. But, a world class destination? I really wonder if you have ever been there. Pattaya better than Rio? In what way? Please don't try and tell me that Pattaya has great beaches. Pattaya is an adult male Disneyland (I've been there too), which is located on the water, but its not a "world class destination". Please.
Eszpresszo
11-26-22, 02:46
Soon I'll be back in that P4 P paradise known as RdJ for the first time since '19 & I've been scouring this board for useful intel, as usual. One thing I've read, much to my dismay, is that you now have to present photo ID (I. E. Passport) to ride the elevators in RB156? I've spent many, many afternoons like Harrison Ford exploring floor after floor of that building in search of bunda, but I'm just not feelin this idea of having my PP # in some computer just for the 'privilege' of checkin out prives!
This is such a bummer, as I've had many good / great pulls from that bldg over the years! Are there still a bunch of prives operating there or has this ID nonsense caused several to abandon ship?Bummer? ID nonsense? I don't see the problem here. If you have actually entered Brazil, that means you have a passport, right? You have a problem showing your ID? What country do you live in where you never have to show your ID for routine things like picking up your prescription, voting or getting on an airplane? You had to show one to get on the plane to Brazil and you had to show it again when you arrived, didn't you.
I arrived in Brazil at the end of June and arrived here in Bogota a week ago. In all the time I was in Brazil I had to routinely show my passport to enter commercial buildings, to get on a intercity bus, and of course to board a plane. On both domestic and foreign flights. I've also had to send a photo of my passport to Spanish language schools in Buenos Aires and here in Bogota. And most relevant to Brazil, I've had to present some ID to the porteiro at apartment buildings where GPS work out of, as well as hotels they work out of. In the case of the latter, the desk clerks have made a photocopy of my ID, and taken an actual photo of me before letting me ascend. That also happened in an upscale apartment building in Sao Paulo, where the female porteiro had the demeanor of a Stasi agent at Checkpoint Charlie. This is standard routine. But it didn't stop me from having a good time.
And you know why they need your ID? I shouldn't have to explain this to you, but its for security. It's to discourage you from assaulting or murdering the girls, who are frequently targeted for violence. As my favorite girl in Rio told me, "This is very dangerous work. I never work alone. " Despite the security at the entrance to her building, she shares a 3-room suite with two other girls and will not allow clients to enter unless another girl is there in the suite. You call that nonsense? No, its called safety. And you would be a bit naive to think you are not being monitored on video cameras in any vice oriented establishment.
And if for some odd but legitimate reason you really can't show your ID, then go to a prive, or meet a GP at a love hotel. Now those places do not ask for your ID and for good reasons. Love hotels cater to couples who don't want their ID known, be it an ordinary adulterous situation or GP treating her married client to some fun (do you realize that most clients in Brazil are married?
That said, if showing your passport or just some sort of ID is an obstacle for you, then travel to South America, or probably any other country in the world, is just not in the cards for you.
Axel Heyst
11-26-22, 17:34
OK, I get it. You really like RJ, and it is apparently your favorite mongering destination or one of. I firmly support your right to have that opinion and do not care if it is contrary to mine. But why the need to get nasty and question my integrity to make your point?
talk like " there are several world class destinations that are arguably a lot better than RJ like SP. " You mean Sao Paulo? It's a nasty, ugly dump. <snip> I really wonder if you have ever been there. Pattaya better than Rio? In what way? KKK. Don't make me laugh dude. When I use the descriptive phrase "world class" in reference to a city or town on a post in an ISG forum, it should be obvious to you that I am referring to world class mongering and nothing else.
Pat vs RJ:
Sure, Pattaya is a dump. Everyone knows that. But my point was I can't seriously compare RJ to Pat. They are in totally different leagues as far as our favorite hobby is concerned. If you have been to Pat and I have no reason to doubt your word, then you know that Pattaya has soi after soi after soi of girls, bars, beer complexes, massage parlors, go go's, nightclubs and SW's. How many Go Go's are there in Pat? I don't know. Too many to count. How many massage parlors? I don't know. Same same, there are too many to count. And on any given night there are hundreds and hundreds of girls (and ladyboys too 555) standing on Beach Rd starting a couple of blocks before the Hilton all the way to Walking Street looking for customers from 8 pm to 5 am. I don't know the exact numbers, no one does, but there must be at least 10 x, more likely 20 x or 30 x the number of working girls involved with the sex trade in Pattaya compared to RJ. On sheer volume alone and ease of access Pattaya wins hands down. There is no contest, no real comparison.
Look at my attached Pattaya map. It is meant to illustrate the sheer number of possibilities available in Pat. It is mind boggling. But note, I only included venues I have some interest in. I hardly ever visit Pattaya massage parlors because (again) my opinion they are not as good as the ones in BKK so they do not interest me and I did not place them on my map.
SP vs RJ:
Now like I said, you are entitled to your opinion and your personal preferences, but so am I and IMHO comparing SP (Sao Paulo) to RJ on mongering, SP wins. Why? The Boates! And the clinicas which I personally prefer over RJ prives. Please text me when a boate like Scandallo opens in RJ and I will fly over from SP on my next trip to check it out. I am not only talking about numbers of girls, but I am also talking girl quality which in my opinion is the most important thing. And while we are on the subject, I would also love to know what Terma or bar in RJ in your opinion can match Casarao in terms of sheer number of girls and circus circus like atmosphere. 4 x 4? Maybe, but I don't think so. VM? Ha, ha, ha. Not even close. But don't get me wrong, I like 4 x 4 and VM, to lesser extent, but those 2 places ain't as good as Casarao (IMHO). This is why I can skip RJ completely, spend all my trip time in SP, and feel I am not missing a fucking thing. I just think SP is an overall better mongering town in the year of our Lord, 2022 than RJ. You are free to think otherwise.
Integrity:
Lastly, I know you probably didn't mean to impugn my character when you questioned whether I have ever been to Pattaya. Maybe you did, but I will assume you just got carried away a little defending your love of RJ. Don't make it personal. I can assure you I have been travelling to SE Asia (Pat, BKK, Phnom, CGK, MNL, AC ect, ect) for well over 25 years. My current nom de guerre (A. H.) may have only a 361-post history since I began it during Covid when I first visited Brazil in 2021, but I have been contributing to the ISG under a different nom de guerre since 2008 and have over 4500 posts to my credit. It is also safe to say I am fairly well known on the ISG Asian thread and other forums whose names we are not allowed to say here and I have a number of ISG friends over in the Thai, PI, Indonesian, Cambodian, Macau, HKG, forums whom I have met and barhopped with in the real world. I really don't want to start a pissing contest with you, but I will defend my integrity and my word if I have to, so just lay off the personal shit. OK.
A. H.
Pat vs RJ:
Sure, Pattaya is a dump. Everyone knows that. But my point was I can't seriously compare RJ to Pat. They are in totally different leagues as far as our favorite hobby is concerned. If you have been to Pat and I have no reason to doubt your word, then you know that Pattaya has soi after soi after soi of girls, bars, beer complexes, massage parlors, go go's, nightclubs and SW's. How many Go Go's are there in Pat? I don't know. Too many to count. How many massage parlors? I don't know. Same same, there are too many to count. And on any given night there are hundreds and hundreds of girls (and ladyboys too 555) standing on Beach Rd starting a couple of blocks before the Hilton all the way to Walking Street looking for customers from 8 pm to 5 am. I don't know the exact numbers, no one does, but there must be at least 10 x, more likely 20 x or 30 x the number of working girls involved with the sex trade in Pattaya compared to RJ. On sheer volume alone and ease of access Pattaya wins hands down. There is no contest, no real comparison. Look at my attached Pattaya map. It is meant to illustrate the sheer number of possibilities available in Pat. It is mind boggling. But note, I only included venues I have some interest in. I hardly ever visit Pattaya massage parlors because (again) my opinion they are not as good as the ones in BKK so they do not interest me and I did not place them on my map.Yes, I get it too. What you say are the facts. But here's the thing. None of it matters one iota if one is not attracted to Asian women! So, Thailand can't be the best (or better) if you don't like Asian girls. Now, I won't say that I don't like them at all, but I am attracted to very, very, very few Asian (or African for that matter) women. So much so that I always tell how I literally went 72 hours in Pattaya, ground zero for fucking in Thailand, without fucking anybody because I didn't see anybody who I liked (with all of that choice which you so accurately note)! So Dom Axel I can't dispute what you're saying. But not a lick of it matters one bit if one isn't into Asian girls! No it's those pretty Fox News anchor-looking, plump round bunda, big booty blonde Brazilian brancas that I have lust in my dark heart for (and those tanned babymaker morenas too) LMAO!
Maybe we need to clarify if we are talking about world class destinations or world class mongering destinations in our posts.
A large area of Sao Paulo is very nice and upscale actually. There are places that are dump and I have posted some pictures before but they are not all of Sao Paulo. Here are a few more that I took late at night near o Centro. I like both parts of the city.
TonyCarioca11
11-26-22, 20:16
There have been many posts on this topic but just wanted to share my experience.
You buy a Sim (chip) for example Claro chip recarga from any newspaper agent or Lojos Americanos.
These are 30 real with 12 GB of data for a month. Once you put the new SIM in your phone you wait for an SMS with your new phone number. This takes 20-30 minutes. Now you need to go to a Claro shop to activate the number. I went to Shopping Leblon mall and they activated the SIM at the Clara shop without even checking my passport.
Today I was busy writing some attractive ladies from the recommended sites using my new local number and the prices are local prices thanks to google translate.
Now you need to go to a Claro shop to activate the number. No, of course not.
Gabbarsing
11-27-22, 02:32
Hi mongers.
I will be in Rio next Friday for a week. This will be my third time to Rio this year. Would love to meet fellow mongers as always. Please DM me if anyone is interested to meet up.
Cheers.
Axel Heyst
11-27-22, 03:07
Yes, I get it too. What you say are the facts. But here's the thing. None of it matters one iota if one is not attracted to Asian women! So, Thailand can't be the best (or better) if you don't like Asian girls. Now, I won't say that I don't like them at all, but I am attracted to very, very, very few Asian (or African for that matter) women. So much so that I always tell how I literally went 72 hours in Pattaya, ground zero for fucking in Thailand, without fucking anybody because I didn't see anybody who I liked (with all of that choice which you so accurately note)! So Dom Axel I can't dispute what you're saying. But not a lick of it matters one bit if one isn't into Asian girls! No it's those pretty Fox News anchor-looking, plump round bunda, big booty blonde Brazilian brancas that I have lust in my dark heart for (and those tanned babymaker morenas too) LMAO!Cane,
First, I look at the face. KKK. Because I am attracted to pretty faces and then slender body types, but after I see what I like, I always check out the girl's demeanor & personality wherever the fuck I am. It reminds me of the old Motown hit by the Contours, "First I look at the Purse. " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHDmH8r5l7Y.
In Thailand I love demure spinners with pretty faces. Girls weighing in at around 40 kg. But truth be told, pretty faces among Thai Go Go girls are a minority. I would estimate that only 5% to 7% of the girls in my favorite Go Go's in BKK or Pattaya, places like Kings Castle 1, Rainbow 4, and Pin Up are barfine worthy, to me anyway. The rest don't even register on my radar. And in lessor Go Go's there may not be any girls to my liking. That's just the way it is.
In Brazil pretty spinners are still my favorite category, but I am happy to report that I have also discovered a new body type, new for me anyway: tall, slender Brazilian girls. Wow! Is all I will say about them until I write up my most recent trip reports. But on any given Thursday, or Friday night I will usually find that around 10% to 15% of SP Scandallo girls are attractive to me which considering how many girls are in the club, turns out to be a lot of pretty girls to choose from. That is why I hold Scandallo in such high regard.
Brancas are my favorites, but I also like morenas, indigenous girls, and an occasional a black girl too. After her good looks grabs my attention, it all hinges on the girl and how she interacts with me. Interestingly, I find Japanese Brazilian girls are a bit of letdown. They are not the same as Japanese Japanese girls IMHO. KKK.
Anyway, let me know if you will be around in May / June 2023. It sounds like we are attracted to different body types. The interesting thing would be if we agree or disagree on pretty faces.
A. H.
ou mean Sao Paulo? It's a nasty, ugly dump. It's the only place in the world where I use the flashlight on my cell phone at night, to ensure I don't set into human feces left on the sidewalk by the ever growing army of mendigos. Certainly SP is a great place for punting, and definitely the port of entry most of us need to arrive in Brazil in 2022. But, a world class destination? SP is certainly not a dump. I do prefer RJ to SP but it's a world class city indeed, very green for a huge megapolis with an excellent transportation system, plenty of things to see and fantastic restaurants. Ibirapuera Park is one of the best urban parks in the world, and I was surprised how much I loved walking there (that's coming from NYC with our Central Park). Centro can be depressing on a weekend, but I have never had to use a flashlight to avoid human waste, although I do tend to uber in both Rio and SP at night.
Axel Heyst
11-27-22, 15:36
SP is certainly not a dump. I do prefer RJ to SP but it's a world class city indeed, very green for a huge megapolis with an excellent transportation system, plenty of things to see and fantastic restaurants. Ibirapuera Park is one of the best urban parks in the world, and I was surprised how much I loved walking there (that's coming from NYC with our Central Park). Centro can be depressing on a weekend, but I have never had to use a flashlight to avoid human waste, although I do tend to uber in both Rio and SP at night.Well Said! I too enjoy walking around Ibirapuera Park as well as the surrounding neighborhoods and discovering small restaurants that the locals favor. I also find that Paulistanos are friendly yet they tend to leave one alone unless I choose to open up a dialogue.
I remember an old quote from Anthony Bourdain who once said that when he first arrived in SP, "São Paulo felt (to him) like LOS Angeles threw up on New York City" and "it is true that the city is known for its unreliable weather and the size of its helicopter fleet. " LOL. But even Anthony changed his tune by his 2nd visit as he "discovered a fondness for the rich culture that has developed from the mix of rich and poor, young and old <snip a city of the kind of people I like. " Which parallels how I feel IE SP is a city of wonderful women.
Cane,
First, I look at the face. KKK. Because I am attracted to pretty faces and then slender body types, but after I see what I like, I always check out the girl's demeanor & personality wherever the fuck I am. It reminds me of the old Motown hit by the Contours, "First I look at the Purse. " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHDmH8r5l7Y.
In Thailand I love demure spinners with pretty faces. Girls weighing in at around 40 kg. But truth be told, pretty faces among Thai Go Go girls are a minority. I would estimate that only 5% to 7% of the girls in my favorite Go Go's in BKK or Pattaya, places like Kings Castle 1, Rainbow 4, and Pin Up are barfine worthy, to me anyway. The rest don't even register on my radar. And in lessor Go Go's there may not be any girls to my liking. That's just the way it is. Anyway, let me know if you will be around in May / June 2023. It sounds like we are attracted to different body types. The interesting thing would be if we agree or disagree on pretty faces..The face is also extremely important to me. It's like I always say. If I can't get past that face, then I won't be getting to them "hind parts" hahahaha. Guys who do "butter face" girls tell me to just turn them over or do them doggy. My reply? I have a vivid imagination LOL! But seriously though, that's the main reason why I'm not sexually attracted to most Asian women. It's their faces. Why even by your own account above most of them don't have attractive faces. So maybe we agree on that much. I mean if I see 100 Asian women I'm probably going to give only 10 a second look. And out of that 10 I would probably only fuck 2 or 3. No more mongering trips to Asia for me with those kinds of odds of finding someone who gives me a boner! Glad I went and checked it off the bucket list but would rather go to other parts of the world to monger.
... I have also discovered a new body type, new for me anyway: tall, slender Brazilian girls. Wow! ..Same here. LOL. I like the ones that have proportion like model body, head can't be too big. I don't really have a preference on height in my head, just most of the times I felt stuck with taller girl during sex, but slender girl is different.
Thanks to all the helpful feedback on this issue. As I value my privacy, I will avoid RB156 & OB28 and instead explore TDM33, other buildings w / o this ridiculous requirement & the many dozen walkup prives in Zona Sul & greater Centro. And for any of you who think having to present your original PP & taking a photo just to visit a public business is no big deal, I wonder if those security guards are complying with this law and related laws: https://www.osano.com/articles/brazil-lgpd.
... Integrity:
Lastly, I know you probably didn't mean to impugn my character when you questioned whether I have ever been to Pattaya. Maybe you did, but I will assume you just got carried away a little defending your love of RJ. Don't make it personal. I can assure you I have been travelling to SE Asia (Pat, BKK, Phnom, CGK, MNL, AC ect, ect) for well over 25 years. My current nom de guerre (A. H.)may have only a 361-post history since I began it during Covid when I first visited Brazil in 2021, but I have been contributing to the ISG under a different nom de guerre since 2008 and have over 4500 posts to my credit. ...Indeed, under your other ISG "nom de guerre", your reports were extensive, comprehensive and very informative, as are many of your current Brazilian reports.
I would even go so far as to say under your other pseudonym/moniker, you were perhaps one of the preeminent BM/posters on Asia. Personally, I did enjoyed reading several your adventurous reports on PI, over the years.
The face is also extremely important to me. It's like I always say. If I can't get past that face, then I won't be getting to them "hind parts" hahahaha. Guys who do "butter face" girls tell me to just turn them over or do them doggy. ... No more mongering trips to Asia for me with those kinds of odds of finding someone who gives me a boner! Glad I went and checked it off the bucket list but would rather go to other parts of the world to monger. Oh boy, you've hit on one of my favorite niche categories here, "but-her face" girls. I love me a good "but-her face" girl, just as long as she comes with a great body and great attitude...kkkk!
Sure I get it, "the face" is top of the pops, for many a monger here, it just not at the top of my priorities.
Jimmy Boy 99
11-28-22, 01:27
Hi mongers.
I will be in Rio next Friday for a week. This will be my third time to Rio this year. Would love to meet fellow mongers as always. Please DM me if anyone is interested to meet up.
Cheers.Tried to send you a PM about a WhatsApp group in Rio but could not because apparently you can't get PMs. You may want to check why not.
Oh boy, you've hit on one of my favorite niche categories here, "but-her face" girls. I love me a good "but-her face" girl, just as long as she comes with a great body and great attitude...kkkk!
Sure I get it, "the face" is top of the pops, for many a monger here, it just not at the top of my priorities.Have at them bro. They're all yours! It takes all types to make the world go around. LOL!
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=butterface
SP is certainly not a dump. I do prefer RJ to SP but it's a world class city indeed, very green for a huge megapolis with an excellent transportation system, plenty of things to see and fantastic restaurants. Ibirapuera Park is one of the best urban parks in the world, and I was surprised how much I loved walking there (that's coming from NYC with our Central Park). Centro can be depressing on a weekend, but I have never had to use a flashlight to avoid human waste, although I do tend to uber in both Rio and SP at night.Agree 100%. If you like big cities, you'll like SP. Of course Rio is more spectacular -- it's one of the most spectacular cities in the World. But SP has about anything you could want besides a beach. It has the best restaurants in South America hands down. And I especially agree with Ibirapuera Park. Every day in SP, I try to walk a bit in the park. And obviously the women, no better place anywhere.
SP is the NY of S America.
+55 21 98110-1598.
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro/barra-da-tijuca/loira-linda-e-completa-com-oral-ate-o-final-namoradinha-id-ee4nf
Picked up a girl on photoacompanhantes, whatsapped and invited her to my hotel. Quoted me 300 per hour plus Uber. I searched using 'verified photos' filter, however a girl that showed up wasn't the one on the picture. Yet she was still hot and I decided she could stay. Very nice fake boobs with extremely sensitive and perky nipples. Asked her to stay two hours (mistake), and she asked for 700, agreed.
Didn't want to do BJ with no rubber, but I kinda had to convince her. After couple of minutes of pounding she started complaining that I'm not cumming soon enough and that 'it wasn't only sex' that we agreed on. Finished off and told her to leave. Don't know if the link will still be there, but be careful. I remember using that platform (photoacompanhantes) long time ago and don't remember a bad experience like that.
+55 21 98110-1598.
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro/barra-da-tijuca/loira-linda-e-completa-com-oral-ate-o-final-namoradinha-id-ee4nf
Picked up a girl on photoacompanhantes, whatsapped and invited her to my hotel. Quoted me 300 per hour plus Uber. I searched using 'verified photos' filter, however a girl that showed up wasn't the one on the picture. Yet she was still hot and I decided she could stay. Very nice fake boobs with extremely sensitive and perky nipples. Asked her to stay two hours (mistake), and she asked for 700, agreed.
Didn't want to do BJ with no rubber, but I kinda had to convince her. After couple of minutes of pounding she started complaining that I'm not cumming soon enough and that 'it wasn't only sex' that we agreed on. Finished off and told her to leave. Don't know if the link will still be there, but be careful. I remember using that platform (photoacompanhantes) long time ago and don't remember a bad experience like that.Just don't know why guys keep going to Brazil and using PA when there are so many documented better online choices than that. It truly boggles the mind!
Have at them bro. They're all yours! It takes all types to make the world go around. LOL!Like my South American brother-in-law used to say; "la cara ofende, pero el culo defiende".
Like my South American brother-in-law used to say; "la cara ofende, pero el culo defiende".But there's the other side of the coin too. What about those ones who have just a gorgeous, gorgeous face but a subpar body? I've known a few of those too in my life. They also get a pass!
https://barravipsrio.webgata.net/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-sabrina-santos
Another experience, this time a positive one. Whatsapped Sabrina in the morning and got a prompt reply before 9 am. Agreed to meet at 11 am, quoted at 600. Ended up paying 200 more for 'Uber' as she said she lived far.
Very nice attitude, tall beautiful girl. Operated boobs which are not the ones that are one the pictures (better ones). Very nice plump butt.
Overall very nice experience, and good effort from Sabrina. Blowjob could've been a bit better though, wasn't really enthusiastic and not exactly CIM per se.
Just don't know why guys keep going to Brazil and using PA when there are so many documented better online choices than that. It truly boggles the mind!Learning by trial and error, sir.
I'm personally a little tired of 'perfect and expensive' luxury girls. And kinda of looking forward to more amateurish type. That's why I figured I can try PA. But hey, I come here once in a blue moon, and will know better now.
Have at them bro. They're all yours! It takes all types to make the world go around. LOL!
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=butterfaceYep, all types! That it does, my man, that it does!
What a boring place, the world would be, if we all liked the same thing...kkkk!
Agree 100%. If you like big cities, you'll like SP. Of course Rio is more spectacular -- it's one of the most spectacular cities in the World. But SP has about anything you could want besides a beach. It has the best restaurants in South America hands down. And I especially agree with Ibirapuera Park. Every day in SP, I try to walk a bit in the park. And obviously the women, no better place anywhere.
SP is the NY of S America.I almost agree but I see SP as a number 2 for restaurants (no pun intended, LOL). I regard Lima as THE gastronomical Mecca of South America, although I've heard the scene's gotten worse due to Covid.
Vagabundo1
11-29-22, 08:47
You make valid points.
But IMHO, one should avoid showing ID for many reasons.
1. the girls will try to scam you. Once she has your real name, it's much easier to try to extort you in any number of ways.
2. ditto, the building, the casa, the police, etc, etc. The main business of rio de janeiro is fucking gringos. Be the bat, not the ball.
You want to be the grey man.
BTW, generally, don't put your photo on your whatsapp. Interesting and probably valid discussion of zap too.
Bummer? ID nonsense? I don't see the problem here. If you have actually entered Brazil, that means you have a passport, right? You have a problem showing your ID? What country do you live in where you never have to show your ID for routine things like picking up your prescription, voting or getting on an airplane? You had to show one to get on the plane to Brazil and you had to show it again when you arrived, didn't you.
I arrived in Brazil at the end of June and arrived here in Bogota a week ago. In all the time I was in Brazil I had to routinely show my passport to enter commercial buildings, to get on a intercity bus, and of course to board a plane. On both domestic and foreign flights. I've also had to send a photo of my passport to Spanish language schools in Buenos Aires and here in Bogota. And most relevant to Brazil, I've had to present some ID to the porteiro at apartment buildings where GPS work out of, as well as hotels they work out of. In the case of the latter, the desk clerks have made a photocopy of my ID, and taken an actual photo of me before letting me ascend. That also happened in an upscale apartment building in Sao Paulo, where the female porteiro had the demeanor of a Stasi agent at Checkpoint Charlie. This is standard routine. But it didn't stop me from having a good time.
And you know why they need your ID? I shouldn't have to explain this to you, but its for security. It's to discourage you from assaulting or murdering the girls, who are frequently targeted for violence. As my favorite girl in Rio told me, "This is very dangerous work. I never work alone. " Despite the security at the entrance to her building, she shares a 3-room suite with two other girls and will not allow clients to enter unless another girl is there in the suite. You call that nonsense? No, its called safety. And you would be a bit naive to think you are not being monitored on video cameras in any vice oriented establishment.
And if for some odd but legitimate reason you really can't show your ID, then go to a prive, or meet a GP at a love hotel. Now those places do not ask for your ID and for good reasons. Love hotels cater to couples who don't want their ID known, be it an ordinary adulterous situation or GP treating her married client to some fun (do you realize that most clients in Brazil are married?
That said, if showing your passport or just some sort of ID is an obstacle for you, then travel to South America, or probably any other country in the world, is just not in the cards for you.
GiuseppeBonera
11-29-22, 08:48
+55 21 98110-1598.
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro/barra-da-tijuca/loira-linda-e-completa-com-oral-ate-o-final-namoradinha-id-ee4nf
Picked up a girl on photoacompanhantes, whatsapped and invited her to my hotel. Quoted me 300 per hour plus Uber. I searched using 'verified photos' filter, however a girl that showed up wasn't the one on the picture. Yet she was still hot and I decided she could stay. Very nice fake boobs with extremely sensitive and perky nipples. Asked her to stay two hours (mistake), and she asked for 700, agreed.
Didn't want to do BJ with no rubber, but I kinda had to convince her. After couple of minutes of pounding she started complaining that I'm not cumming soon enough and that 'it wasn't only sex' that we agreed on. Finished off and told her to leave. Don't know if the link will still be there, but be careful. I remember using that platform (photoacompanhantes) long time ago and don't remember a bad experience like that.You may have made a mistake on your search does not look like her picture is verified.
Axel Heyst
11-29-22, 15:12
You make valid points.
But IMHO, one should avoid showing ID for many reasons.
1. the girls will try to scam you. Once she has your real name, it's much easier to try to extort you in any number of ways.
2. ditto, the building, the casa, the police, etc, etc. The main business of rio de janeiro is fucking gringos. Be the bat, not the ball.
You want to be the grey man.
BTW, generally, don't put your photo on your whatsapp. Interesting and probably valid discussion of zap too.I never thought about it much, but my "don't stand out / blend in as much as possible" policy leads me to follow the points you suggest. But with girls I repeat with there comes a time when I learn their real names and they mine. I never trust anyone 100%, but I trust my judgment and instincts viz a viz the girls. I know when it is alright to lower my guard a little.
But definitely do not put your photo on your WhatsApp profile. I use a picture of leopard in the jungle. And I have a separate account and alias email name for everything related to our sport. Protect your identity boys. It's very important.
.... It has the best restaurants in South America hands down. ....Have you been to Lima?
TonyCarioca11
11-29-22, 23:10
Did a booking for Livia 11 am today as I wanted to be the first customer of the day. Asked if I need a passport to enter the building and they confirmed that ID is needed.
Took metro to Centro / Carioca and the Onix Terapias building is just next to the underground exit. You have to get a card to get on the elevator which requires registration with ID. They ask 2 questions: Which floor and which room? Then when I touch the card on the turnstyle I see my real name. How embarassing is that? They have a record of me visiting that particular apartment.
After ringing the door I was let in and asked to wait in a standard room, which was depressing. So I left the room and asked how much difference the VIP room would be as I saw on the web page that they have VIP rooms. Normal massage 1 HR in standard room are $R170 in VIP room are $R200. Of course I took the VIP room. They asked for are $R30 extra paying by credit card so I paid cash.
Livia is a really beautiful girl and apparently she commutes every day from Baja. The good news is that there is a direct line from Centro going there. Livia came across as a bit shy. She has one pierced nipple and pierced belly. She is all natural and has a beautiful bum. I'm into slim girls with nice faces and she was definitely my type. It was my first time with her and she did not do DFK more of the kissing on the lips. So it was not really passionate the way I wanted. Blowjob without condom and then covered sex in various positions. Her oral sex is not the best but she makes up for it with her personaility.
https://www.onixterapias.com/terapeuta-info.php?p=LIVIA&s=270
I think I would try once more with her to see if she will kiss more passionate. There was one more girl I liked there: Bianca. All pictures on the site are slightly glammed up that is why I wanted to see the other girls in person while I was there.
Reading some of the reports of guys paying small fortunes and taxi fares for girls this is great value for money although you need to carry ID to enter the building as mentioned.
Hey guys,
Thinking of a Rio & Sao Paulo trip for the first time very soon. Wondering if anyone has had any good experiences with Seeking.com here?Same question. Anyone use seeking.com for RdJ? Either for one off dates or for longer multi day sessions? I'm planning to go down for a conference next year and wouldn't mind hooking up with one or 2 ladies who would be willing to go on multiple dates while I'm there for the week.
Vagabundo1
11-30-22, 00:28
Thanks for the report. I will put Livia on the short list for ball licker, in fielder in the harem, since she lives in barra (note spelling). Girls like her in Baja would make bank, but why spoil them.
Did a booking for Livia 11 am today as I wanted to be the first customer of the day. Asked if I need a passport to enter the building and they confirmed that ID is needed.
Took metro to Centro / Carioca and the Onix Terapias building is just next to the underground exit. You have to get a card to get on the elevator which requires registration with ID. They ask 2 questions: Which floor and which room? Then when I touch the card on the turnstyle I see my real name. How embarassing is that? They have a record of me visiting that particular apartment.
After ringing the door I was let in and asked to wait in a standard room, which was depressing. So I left the room and asked how much difference the VIP room would be as I saw on the web page that they have VIP rooms. Normal massage 1 HR in standard room are $R170 in VIP room are $R200. Of course I took the VIP room. They asked for are $R30 extra paying by credit card so I paid cash.
Livia is a really beautiful girl and apparently she commutes every day from Baja. The good news is that there is a direct line from Centro going there. Livia came across as a bit shy. She has one pierced nipple and pierced belly. She is all natural and has a beautiful bum. I'm into slim girls with nice faces and she was definitely my type. It was my first time with her and she did not do DFK more of the kissing on the lips. So it was not really passionate the way I wanted. Blowjob without condom and then covered sex in various positions. Her oral sex is not the best but she makes up for it with her personaility.
https://www.onixterapias.com/terapeuta-info.php?p=LIVIA&s=270
I think I would try once more with her to see if she will kiss more passionate. There was one more girl I liked there: Bianca. All pictures on the site are slightly glammed up that is why I wanted to see the other girls in person while I was there.
Reading some of the reports of guys paying small fortunes and taxi fares for girls this is great value for money although you need to carry ID to enter the building as mentioned.
TravelGuy79
11-30-22, 03:01
Hey guys,
I'm planning on moving around June to Rio. My plan is to go on a student visa for a couple years so I can become fluent in Portuguese and then switch over to an investor visa. From my research it seems hard for an Expat to rent that's not an Airbnb, which is way too expensive for what you get long-term. Are there any websites to find private rentals or are there agencies that work with ex-pats? I'm hoping that if I am willing to put a bigger deposit down or pay the entire rental Upfront they will rent to me as a foreigner. Any advice that someone can give me on this obstacle would be really greatly appreciated!
MongerHunger
11-30-22, 15:31
Was wondering what the mongering scene is like during the Rio Carnaval?
TonyCarioca11
12-01-22, 12:44
Went to Beco das Garrafas yesterday and the live Bossa Nova music was amazing. 50 real to enter and drinks caipiroska and caipirinha are around are 22 real.
https://becodasgarrafas.com.br/
May go on Friday again if I do not hear from Vagabundo There is another more casual place without cover when I went there last time: Bip Bip. They do not only play Bossa Nova there.
https://www.guiadasemana.com.br/rio-de-janeiro/bares/estabelecimento/bip-bip
Have you been to Lima?Good question. In my opinion and many other's opinions, Lima is currently the culinary hot spot of Southern America. You will find many more high-end restaurants in SP. Perhaps you will also find better Italian food in Sao Paulo. However, Lima's restaurants are offering amazing experiences with local seafood and ingredients. There's also Japanese and Chinese influences in Lima's culinary tradition.
MasterOfNone
12-01-22, 22:28
I want to try and contribute as I go. Just landed today and I will say if you can book the ocean view suite at this Hotel book with confidence! Guest friendly and the view off of the large balcony is crazy.
Heading to Barra now to link up with a hot hot hot one I was referred to by a Brazilian lady friend of mine back in Miami. Looking forward to sharing this 3 week adventure.
Was wondering what the mongering scene is like during the Rio Carnaval?As you would expect, the competition for an available pussy will be immense. Still, plenty more pussies will descend on Rio for the sousagefest, so you'll still be able to get yours.
The atmosphere is nuts, noisy and a huge aphrodisiac, at least that's how it felt for me. Streets are full with the dancing locals, drunk tourists of both sexes and pickpockets. Tons of pickpockets. You will occasionally hear something that sounds like a gunfire, which might well be a gunfire, so if you see people ducking, don't be a standout guy, LOL. All prices are pointed upwards just like your dick. If you're a younger fellow, you'll love it. If not, it's still worth experiencing once in your lifetime.
But once in your lifetime is quite enough, IMHO.
By the well, it will likely be a real superspreader event, so I'd get the best travel / medical insurance money can buy.
Like I said, triple your budget.
I want to try and contribute as I go. Just landed today and I will say if you can book the ocean view suite at this Hotel book with confidence! Guest friendly and the view off of the large balcony is crazy.
Heading to Barra now to link up with a hot hot hot one I was referred to by a Brazilian lady friend of mine back in Miami. Looking forward to sharing this 3 week adventure.Thinking about staying at the Pestana as well. Can you please tell me about the upstairs pool bar, are their girls from the outside that are allowed to come upstirs? Also what is the price for the Ocean view suite? Thanks so much.
Hey guys I might fly into Gallegos this time around instead of GRU. Does anyone know if there's wifi in the Airport and where the simplest place is in Rio to get a SIM card? Last time I was in SP only Claro would sell to me without CPfuckingF. My language skills still arent good enough to feel confident without immediate internet access.
And does anyone recommend any new Termas?
Stinky Squid
12-04-22, 09:59
I never thought about it much, but my "don't stand out / blend in as much as possible" policy leads me to follow the points you suggest. But with girls I repeat with there comes a time when I learn their real names and they mine. I never trust anyone 100%, but I trust my judgment and instincts viz a viz the girls. I know when it is alright to lower my guard a little.
But definitely do not put your photo on your WhatsApp profile. I use a picture of leopard in the jungle. And I have a separate account and alias email name for everything related to our sport. Protect your identity boys. It's very important.Coming here from Pattaya looking forward to come home to Brazil. Been away for 8 months. God, I am so homesick. I can literally feel life coming back to me, familiar language, familiar places, being able to communicate with the girls, oh boy, I am so homesick and soon I will be back. What a joy.
But I do use my normal WhatsApp. I separate Colombian (Spanish speaking activity) on one number, from everything else on my Brazilian number. And it's all mixed up. I keep my name off because that is the biggest problem and I learned that while photo is OK, I should not use a photo which exists on any other social media sites, so the photo should not be searchable to allow tracing to your real identity.
The reason I prefer photo is that it serves as a pre-selection. There is no doubt that just like I select girls that I like the girls have their range too, and I don't want to be with people who don't appreciate me. So I feel photo is useful. I wish there was a feature to control which photo to show to different contacts, as I would like to do reciprocity. Show real photo to people who have real photo, show no photo to people who show no photo, show avatar to people who show avatar, show random photo to people who have random photo.
I don't have to have secrets (anymore, right now anyway) which is really nice. So I am not blackmailable.
But I had a few incidents.
(1) The worst one was being threatened and extorted that someone would post my photo all over and accuse me as a child molester. What happened (and I reported here at the time) was that I got an unsolicited contact from what looked like a provider and then suddenly (s) he became pushy and then suddenly said I was being a waste of time and if I didn't want anything that I should go to hell and besides (s) he will post my picture everywhere and go to the police (actually, "the embassy" which was funny). Wanted me to beg and pay money. But I just pushed back. It got a little scary, because false accusations can hurt. I kept the communication channel open to see how (s) he gave up when I didn't budge. But I immediately checked my photo was searchable on the internet, associated with some blog or something. And I changed the photo at the sources and tried Google image to pull it. That wasn't very successful with Google image. So, this is something I keep remembering, to not use the same photo that is searchable. Fortunately public face recognition services don't exist (yet).
(2) Here is another one: specially Brazil related. Once I got into an argument with a girl from RJ who was being difficult to actually schedule. And then I said sorry I give up this ain't working anyway. And then she became enraged and I made the mistake to get myself suckered into an argument instead of just tuning out. Then she got so enraged that she threatened she would do some Voodo (macumba) stuff with me, which, of course not having anything else from me, would involve my photo. You guys might not believe in such "superstition" but I am long enough in Brazil that I take this issue with caution. In this case quickly blocking her would make sure that she could not pull my photo any more, with the chance being very low that she had captured it during the argument already.
So there we go as deep into WhatsApp photo as one can go. Haha. Man, I am so homesick, I am actually looking forward to having an argument with a girl in Brazil. Haha.
Mr Enternational
12-04-22, 12:42
(1) The worst one was being threatened and extorted that someone would post my photo all over and accuse me as a child molester.
(2) Then she got so enraged that she threatened she would do some Voodo (macumba) stuff with me, which, of course not having anything else from me, would involve my photo.Both things are dumb. You are just a random guy from the internet. These people know nothing about you, yet can strike fear into you like that? Taking your photo putting it somewhere and saying you molest people would have the same effect as taking any other person's random photo from the internet and saying they molest people. No name. No date. No city. No nothing except a photo. If this was really a thing then I am sure that our inboxes and facebooks would be full of random mfs pics with captions saying they molested somebody. But they are not! Because it is just all bullshit scammers make up to scare you. I guess it actually works on some people. Get some street smarts about yourself.
Hey guys I might fly into Gallegos this time around instead of GRU. Does anyone know if there's wifi in the Airport and where the simplest place is in Rio to get a SIM card? Last time I was in SP only Claro would sell to me without CPfuckingF. My language skills still arent good enough to feel confident without immediate internet access.
And does anyone recommend any new Termas?You can get SIM card in front of Uruguaiana station of Centro station from TIM girl like in the picture, Centro station probably is easier. Technically you can get SIM card anywhere in SP without any documents but you need document to register it. You can register TIM SIM by phone with only your passport. Just wait to the end and you will get an option for English language
Last time I was in Rio, I went to a new terma around the corner of 116, you won't miss it if you know where 116 is. But this is not a recommendation.
Hey guys I might fly into Gallegos this time around instead of GRU. Does anyone know if there's wifi in the Airport and where the simplest place is in Rio to get a SIM card? Last time I was in SP only Claro would sell to me without CPfuckingF. My language skills still arent good enough to feel confident without immediate internet access.
And does anyone recommend any new Termas?If you mean GIG airport, then yes there is wifi inside the airport. It will ask you to login with your Facebook or Twiiter account though. I bought a Claro SIM card from the store "Americanas Express". There are other places too. Once you install the SIM, you receive a message showing the phone number. Here is the interesting part. After purchasing the SIM, I went to the Claro store in Leblon Shopping Mall and asked to activate it. The store was very busy. The customer Rep. Wrote the phone on a sheet of paper and asked me to wait for few minutes. While waiting I saw him working on a computer and activated the SIM. He did not ask for ID, Passport or CPF. Whether this is a new policy or he was new and did not know enough, I do not know. He then asked me to go to a pharmacy which is across from the Claro Store to get an Internet package. I bought a 30 day, 12 GB data for 30 Real from the Raia Pharmacy. I also paid 10 Real for the SIM card. So for 40 Real and NO ID or CPF I got a local phone.
Eszpresszo
12-05-22, 02:29
As you would expect, the competition for an available pussy will be immense. Still, plenty more pussies will descend on Rio for the sousagefest, so you'll still be able to get yours.
Huh? Why would I imagine that? I actually asked a GP what business was like during carnival. She said it was lousy during carnival, because too many girls are giving it away for free.
"plenty more pussies will descend on Rio for the sousagefest".
Really? Is that comment based on your experience, or is that just your speculation? From where will these pussies descend?
Have you been to Lima?Been to Lima twice. Certainly a good food scene, but IMO São Paulo is way better.
Been to Lima twice. Certainly a good food scene, but IMO So Paulo is way better.I am not trying to debate which one is better as I like both. I think Lima has far better seafood dishes, like sashimi, ceviche, and also chicharron. Lima has far better Chinese style dishes. I think Lima also has better cafe. Nothing in Sao Paulo I have tried that comes close to places like El Pan de la Chola but Sao Paulo is very good still and it has far more good cafes than I know in Lima.
Been to Lima twice. Certainly a good food scene, but IMO So Paulo is way better.Our taste in food differ. Now what about our taste in women:
1. Argentina.
2. Brazil.
3. Venezuela.
4. Colombia and Mexico tied.
MasterOfNone
12-05-22, 19:53
Thinking about staying at the Pestana as well. Can you please tell me about the upstairs pool bar, are their girls from the outside that are allowed to come upstirs? Also what is the price for the Ocean view suite? Thanks so much.Are you asking if you bring a girl to the hotel can you take her to the pool yes? If you are asking if working girls are hanging out at the pool, I have not seen any. The price will depend on when you decide to book.
As far as just having girls come to the hotel to visit. No issues at all.
Thinking about staying at the Pestana as well. Can you please tell me about the upstairs pool bar, are their girls from the outside that are allowed to come upstirs? Also what is the price for the Ocean view suite? Thanks so much.I've stayed at this hotel a few times, on the weekends they have a DJ on the roof bar, I've met working girls there. On Sunday afternoon the rooftop bar attracts locals and I've seen working girls there and I've brought my own. As far as price for the ocean front suite it varies from season to season so check hotels.com or Pestana website.
Huh? Why would I imagine that? I actually asked a GP what business was like during carnival. She said it was lousy during carnival, because too many girls are giving it away for free.1. Because it's only logical.
2. It doesn't make any sense. Are you talking about GDPs or civilians? Why would GDPs give it for free during the Carnaval?
"plenty more pussies will descend on Rio for the sousagefest".
Really? Is that comment based on your experience, or is that just your speculation?Yes really. It's based on my experience from 2000's, I don't remember exactly. The way I do remember it, termas and bars were bursting at the seems with both men and women, FLs were asking ridiculous prices, but would go down a bit as the night progressed.
From where will these pussies descend?Is this a real question? Brazil is a big country, you know.
Not sure what you're trying to say. If you want to counter my observations with your own experience -- just go ahead.
Our taste in food differ. Now what about our taste in women:
1. Argentina.
2. Brazil.
3. Venezuela.
4. Colombia and Mexico tied.Ha! Always a good debate. I'd put Argentina behind Brasil, Venezuela, and Colombia. Unless Argentina has improved in the 15 years since my last (and only) visit.
I can't recall sampling chicas on visits to Mexico.
You were lucky. Getting a prepaid sim card in Rio seems to be a real pain these days. I spent hours yesterday in Riosul buying a sim card and having it registered. I was sent from Claro to Vivo and from Vivo to Tim. Nobody was prepared to help although the stores were almost empty. The staff was just sitting there on their hands looking bored. With much asking around in my very limited Portuguese, I finally found a store where they sold sim cards of Tim. But they told me that I should register myself by calling a number. I did so, but the menu was all in Portuguese. No press X for English. I went back to the Tim store but there they refused to help me and were quite rude about it as well. Service levels really have declined in Rio since my last visit 6 years ago. Back then, it was no problem at all to get a registered sim card. Finally, the people at my Airbnb were able to help me with the Portuguese menu and I got registered.
If you mean GIG airport, then yes there is wifi inside the airport. It will ask you to login with your Facebook or Twiiter account though. I bought a Claro SIM card from the store "Americanas Express". There are other places too. Once you install the SIM, you receive a message showing the phone number. Here is the interesting part. After purchasing the SIM, I went to the Claro store in Leblon Shopping Mall and asked to activate it. The store was very busy. The customer Rep. Wrote the phone on a sheet of paper and asked me to wait for few minutes. While waiting I saw him working on a computer and activated the SIM. He did not ask for ID, Passport or CPF. Whether this is a new policy or he was new and did not know enough, I do not know. He then asked me to go to a pharmacy which is across from the Claro Store to get an Internet package. I bought a 30 day, 12 GB data for 30 Real from the Raia Pharmacy. I also paid 10 Real for the SIM card. So for 40 Real and NO ID or CPF I got a local phone.
My friend had an issue with a girl from DV on Saturday. He brought her back to his place and she changed all of the terms of the deal (! Hour instead of all night. Condom for the BJ, No pictures, etc) So he told her that she could leave and she demanded that he pay her anyway "For her time". He laughed in her face and told her to GTFO. She threatened to call the police and then he would have to pay 3 X what he owed her.
He said she left and made a phone call in front of the building. He went downstairs and lucky FR him, the building he was staying in had multiple entrances, so he just walked out the back door. He went to a different club, picked up another girl and took her to the panda hotel.
My questions for the board are, have you ever had to pay a girl for her time? I wonder what the police would have done when they arrived. Can they force a tourist to pay a working girl for her time? How in the hell would they calculate how much her time is worth?
Earlier today, I checked out some of the prives in Copacabana. I first went to Copa Massagem in the Rua Tonelero, only a few steps from the Siqueira Campos metro station. There were 5 girls available but I didn't like any of them. Prices quoted were are 100 Reais for 30 minutes and 150 Reais for 60 min.
Next stop was the well-known Eden Spa on the NS de Copacabana street. I had been there before, years ago. The house looked exactly the same as I remembered. There was a line-up of 11 or 12 girls, most of them doable. Prices quoted were 150 Reais for half an hour and 200 Reais for an hour. I decided to stay for one hour with Bella, a lovely triguena (or whatever the correct word is in Portuguese) with a nice smile. I had the feeling that I paid a gringo price, so please someone set me straight on this. I had a nice session with Bella but she insisted on doing CBJ only. So, I probably should have picked another girl. According to GPArena, the girls in this house do BBBJ, so I assumed that they would all do it. Lesson learned: never assume, better make certain.
Initially, I was planning to visit Copa Stetic Club as well but that will have to wait for another day.
You were lucky. Getting a prepaid sim card in Rio seems to be a real pain these days. I spent hours yesterday in Riosul buying a sim card and having it registered. I was sent from Claro to Vivo and from Vivo to Tim. Nobody was prepared to help although the stores were almost empty. The staff was just sitting there on their hands looking bored. With much asking around in my very limited Portuguese, I finally found a store where they sold sim cards of Tim. But they told me that I should register myself by calling a number. I did so, but the menu was all in Portuguese. No press X for English. I went back to the Tim store but there they refused to help me and were quite rude about it as well. Service levels really have declined in Rio since my last visit 6 years ago. Back then, it was no problem at all to get a registered sim card. Finally, the people at my Airbnb were able to help me with the Portuguese menu and I got registered.If you don't care about the carrier, I suggest next time just head to the Claro in the small shopping center just two blocks behind the JW Marriot (Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 664 - loja 12). No problems whatsoever. You don't have to travel that far to be redirected to 6 lojas and be treated with terrible customer service.
Mr Enternational
12-13-22, 05:33
My questions for the board are, have you ever had to pay a girl for her time? I wonder what the police would have done when they arrived. Can they force a tourist to pay a working girl for her time? How in the hell would they calculate how much her time is worth?Dude the other day my boy just told me a crazy story of something that happened to him back in the day. Some guy in Copacabana with dreadlocks befriended him. The guy owed like $7000 or he would lose his place. The guy hooked my boy up with two chicks. The chicks somehow got the cops to do a swat raid on the apartment he was staying in. They held him at gunpoint and ransacked the place looking for money. That time his place just happened to have a safe that was in the floor and he had some dirty clothes on top of it, so they never saw it.
After not finding money, they kidnapped him and took him to the station and demanded money. It just so happened to be exactly 2 times the amount that the dreadlock guy needed not to lose his place. He put 2 and 2 together. For some reason they let him keep his phone (Blackberry at the time) when they put him in the cell. He called the dreadlock guy telling him about what happened and the guy said just pay the ransom, my boy never telling him there was anything to pay. My boy bargained with the cops and told them he would give them the only money he had in his bank account which was $300. (he keeps a normal account and a travel account.) They took him to the ATM to get the money and they let him go. He said he hightailed it out of Brazil. Could not get any money back from the apartment because the door was busted down and the place was a mess. He went back to Brazil like 2 months later. I said shit all this time I thought those chicks were just making empty threats.
Did a booking for Livia 11 am today as I wanted to be the first customer of the day. Asked if I need a passport to enter the building and they confirmed that ID is needed.
Took metro to Centro / Carioca and the Onix Terapias building is just next to the underground exit. You have to get a card to get on the elevator which requires registration with ID. They ask 2 questions: Which floor and which room? Then when I touch the card on the turnstyle I see my real name. How embarassing is that? They have a record of me visiting that particular apartment.
After ringing the door I was let in and asked to wait in a standard room, which was depressing. So I left the room and asked how much difference the VIP room would be as I saw on the web page that they have VIP rooms. Normal massage 1 HR in standard room are $R170 in VIP room are $R200. Of course I took the VIP room. They asked for are $R30 extra paying by credit card so I paid cash.
Livia is a really beautiful girl and apparently she commutes every day from Baja. The good news is that there is a direct line from Centro going there. Livia came across as a bit shy. She has one pierced nipple and pierced belly. She is all natural and has a beautiful bum. I'm into slim girls with nice faces and she was definitely my type. It was my first time with her and she did not do DFK more of the kissing on the lips. So it was not really passionate the way I wanted. Blowjob without condom and then covered sex in various positions. Her oral sex is not the best but she makes up for it with her personaility..Confused about how this place and similar ones work, they have different massages like sports for 130/ HR and Thai for 160 listed. Is the price quoted here in additional to the fee for the massage?
If you don't care about the carrier, I suggest next time just head to the Claro in the small shopping center just two blocks behind the JW Marriot (Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 664 - loja 12). No problems whatsoever. You don't have to travel that far to be redirected to 6 lojas and be treated with terrible customer service.Thanks! I'll try that shop next time. By the way, I did not have to travel far as I'm staying in Botafogo, just a few blocks away from Riosul.
TonyCarioca11
12-13-22, 14:13
Prices quoted were 150 Reais for half an hour and 200 Reais for an hour. I decided to stay for one hour with Bella, a lovely triguena (or whatever the correct word is in Portuguese) with a nice smile. I had the feeling that I paid a gringo price, so please someone set me straight on this.Those are normal prices for Eden spa.
TonyCarioca11
12-13-22, 14:15
If you don't care about the carrier, I suggest next time just head to the Claro in the small shopping center just two blocks behind the JW Marriot (Nossa Sra. De Copacabana, 664 - loja 12). No problems whatsoever. You don't have to travel that far to be redirected to 6 lojas and be treated with terrible customer service.Alternative near Ipanema is Leblon shopping. In this mall you have all operators who are used to activating SIMs. The SIMs need to be bought at a newsagent etc first.
TonyCarioca11
12-13-22, 14:24
Based in the heart of Copacabana Eden Spa is just walking distance to where I'm staying. No ID needed to enter the lift (or building). Went up to the 4th floor at around 11 am and enetered the spa where I was sat in a room that also had a drinks cooler with prices clearly marked. One by one 5 girls came to introduce themselves. I liked Any and asked her if she does DFK and CIM. She said yes to both so chose her for an hour for 200 real.
Any came into the room in underwear and we had a nice DFK foreplay after which she asked my to lay on the bed and there was a bit more foreplay before she went down to do some nice oral sex with eye contact. She was very good using the mirror to keep eye contact. Then sex in various positions and as she was a bit too passionate I could not hold back and came after 20 minutes. I then asked her if she likes anal and she said sometimes. I said next time we can try and she was like: It has only been 25 minutes, you will try today as we will have another session. Woow! It is very rare for me to get a hard on so quick after an orgasm but she managed to get him hard with her kisses and oral. When we were done with the hour my head was spinning. What a session and I remembered why Brazilian woman are the best in the world when it comes to sex. That was 200 real well spend! It also puts Brazil back on the top of mongering destinations for passionate sex.
https://www.edenspa.com.br/
Second visit was on the 12th December Monday.
This time I was keen on trying Rubi and went up at 11 am. The reason for the early visit is that I want to be the first customer of the day. Paid 150 real for 30 minutes. Took a quick shower as it was an extremely hot day as Rubi prepared the room. Any (previous girl from previous visit) was good but Rubi is on another level. The DFK was true girl-friend experience. If you want a porn star experience she is not for you. We kissed sensual for 5 minutes. Then she gave me one of the best blow jobs I ever had. Sensual and to maximise stimulation using her tongue. Wooooooow! Rubi's secret is that she enjoys sex if you make an effort to turn her on. So I made an effort to stimulate her clit while having sex in several positions. She is not faking it as you do not hear her moaning. It's her contractions and other hints that give away that she is enjoying it. As we have many sceptics on the forum I will just say that the sex ended with her vagina having stong contrcactions and getting rather wet. I stayed inside her a bit until the contractions were over. Then asked her if she can finish me with CIM. Of course she said, taking the condom off and showing off her amazing oral technique. I came so hard that I nearly had a headache from all the brain synapses firing at the same time. It was an stimulation overload and a rather large orgasm as she noted.
I'm claiming that there is nowhere in the world where you can have sex with a beautiful and sensual and passionate girl like Rubi, who enjoys sex for the equivalent of 150 real.
No need to go to Centro with ID. No need to pay much more to places like Perola Negra where few girls want to stay till the end of the time and are passionate. I'm delaying my report on Perola Negra to give the place a second chance.
After not finding money, they kidnapped him and took him to the station and demanded money. It just so happened to be exactly 2 times the amount that the dreadlock guy needed not to lose his place. He put 2 and 2 together. For some reason they let him keep his phone (Blackberry at the time) when they put him in the cell. He called the dreadlock guy telling him about what happened and the guy said just pay the ransom, my boy never telling him there was anything to pay. My boy bargained with the cops and told them he would give them the only money he had in his bank account which was $300. (he keeps a normal account and a travel account.) They took him to the ATM to get the money and they let him go. He said he hightailed it out of Brazil. Could not get any money back from the apartment because the door was busted down and the place was a mess. He went back to Brazil like 2 months later. I said shit all this time I thought those chicks were just making empty threats.That's a CRAZY FUCKING story!
I can see the police officers bringing him to the car and asking for money but to actually take him to the station? There are captains, lieutenants and sergeants in the station, I wonder how they explained why he was there? Did they ever explain to your friend what they were raiding his apartment for? What were they looking for? I am glad everything worked out for him and I hope dreadlocks got his ass kicked by the police for wasting their time! (I think I stayed at that same apartment. Hidden safe that is under the floor.)
Mr Enternational
12-13-22, 17:52
ThATS A CRAZY FUCKING STORY!
I can see the police officers bringing him to the car and asking for money but to actually take him to the station? There are captains, lieutenants and sergeants in the station, I wonder how they explained why he was there? Did they ever explain to your friend what they were raiding his apartment for? What were they looking for? I am glad everything worked out for him and I hope dreadlocks got his ass kicked by the police for wasting their time! (I think I stayed at that same apartment. Hidden safe that is under the floor.).They just kept asking him where is the money. And he kept saying what money? I guess if their half of the take was going to be $7000 there may not have been too many questions asked of why he was there.
TonyCarioca11
12-13-22, 19:52
Confused about how this place and similar ones work, they have different massages like sports for 130/ HR and Thai for 160 listed. Is the price quoted here in additional to the fee for the massage?The options are indeed confusing. The sexual 'massage' at Onix is 170 real for the hour. This is the usual all inclusive fee. There is a body massage option which is 30 real more (do not recommend this). VIP room is 30 real extra. In reality nearly none of these girls in any massage place I have been to so far do not know any massage. I actually teach them massage techniques when there is 5 minutes left. They really appreciate it. So do not take the massage options serious. They have no clue about Thai massage etc but they are great in passionate sex.
There is also option of two girls or 4 hands:
Half an hour for 260 real.
One hour for 320 real. Of course the 1 hour makes more sense for 60 real more.
You were lucky. Getting a prepaid sim card in Rio seems to be a real pain these days. I spent hours yesterday in Riosul buying a sim card and having it registered. I was sent from Claro to Vivo and from Vivo to Tim. Nobody was prepared to help although the stores were almost empty. The staff was just sitting there on their hands looking bored. With much asking around in my very limited Portuguese, I finally found a store where they sold sim cards of Tim. But they told me that I should register myself by calling a number. I did so, but the menu was all in Portuguese. No press X for English. I went back to the Tim store but there they refused to help me and were quite rude about it as well. Service levels really have declined in Rio since my last visit 6 years ago. Back then, it was no problem at all to get a registered sim card. Finally, the people at my Airbnb were able to help me with the Portuguese menu and I got registered.Well here is an update to my previous post. After using the phone for about 11 days, it stopped working. It could not connect to the Internet. I went back to the same Claro store in Shopping Leblon. The customer Rep. Told me I need another recharge. I had used 1 GB of data out of the 12 GB. Next day I was at the Barra Shopping. There are two Claro stores there. The first one told me to go to the second one. The second one told me to call the customer service. At that point I decided to recharge the phone and see if that fixes it. I went to a pharmacy and bought a data package for 15 Real. Waited for 30 minutes, still not working. Went back to the same store. This time there was another customer Rep. He searched for my number in the computer and said you have to register you SIM with a document (Passport) and CPF number. I did not have those with me so next day took a Uber to Claro store in Copacabana. The store manager said this is a franchise and I can sell you a new SIM card with data for 130 Real but can't register your existing one. So I went back to Claro in shopping Leblon and with my CPF the cell phone was registered finally. Unfortunately that is the state of the customer service at these cell phone companies. Bottomline, before coming to Brazil, get your CPF and make sure to register it the first day.
I was at the Solarium on a Saturday late evening. The second floor where the bar is located was packed. Majority of the girls are between 6-8. The only girl that I was very interested in was busy so I had a drink and left. When you walk in, there are two girls at the reception desk that explain the pricing. The entrance fee is 150 Real which includes one free drink. If you select a girl that money goes toward the total cost. The charge for 40 minutes is 590 Real (cash) or 640 Real (credit card). That includes the basic room. Overall the place is nice. I did not feel the girls to be very aggressive. I may go there again during a weekday.
Yesterday, I went to check out a few prives on Treze de Maio, 33. Most of them are concentrated on the 21st floor, so I went there. Funny enough, the elevator does not reach that floor. You have to go to the 22nd floor and then take the stairs down to the 21st. I first went to 2102 but did not see anything I liked. From there I checked out nextdoor, 2103, which was slightly better but I wanted to see the selection in the other places as well: 2101,2106 and 2107. There may be more mini prives on that floor and on other floors. Prices were everywhere similar: about 150 Reais per hour and going as low as 40 Reais for a quick 15 minutes session. At 2107, a fully naked girl opened the door and she looked great. I was sold and went with her for a one-hour session. She agreed on everything: DFK, BBBJ and CIM. I understood Nicoly when I asked for her name: a small mulata with big T&A. The session was good but not outstanding. Great BBBJ with good eye contact. Afterwards, she used too much lube and I slipped out several times. Overall, she was nice enough but it was without the passion you often get from Brazilian girls. About the prive: not too clean. It reminded me of one of the trash places. There was a shower but it did not look clean and my towel did not come in a plastic bag. The bed was just a wooden board with minimal padding. I could hear perfectly well what was going on in the other rooms as the walls do not reach up to the ceiling. I saw several girls in there but I liked mine best. They were all walking around fully naked. Try it out if you are feeling adventurous.
TonyCarioca11
12-14-22, 19:11
Asked at 10:30 am using whatsapp what girls are in the line-up today. Rubi, Any (from my previous 2 visits), Angel, Luna, Mirela, Jady and Brenda.
Angel and Luna seemed to be new so was keen to see them. When I arrived at around 12 pm, I was told both of them are busy. I decided to come back at 1 pm, when both would be available, and not view the other girls.
When I came back at 1 pm I liked both Angel and Luna, but both said No to oral withhout condom. So I decided to see the rest of the line-up. Mirela a short and petite lady said Yes to oral without and french kissing. Another girl (I think Jady) was a bit hesitant about french kissing but said yes to oral without so I picked both for 30 minutes for 230 real. Although not asking for it, I got a free lesbian show with both girls kissing each other (when they came into the room) and of course I joined in. This would be extra in a lot of places. They even sucked each others pierced boobs. The hesitant girl about french kissing, did not french kiss and her oral technique was a bit strong. I liked Mirela's DFK and oral technique. At one point one was sucking me and the other licking my balls. That was fun to watch. Changed condoms after having sex in a few position with the hesitant girl (Jady?) while kissing Mirela. Then changing positions with Mirela (who seemed to enjoy the sex) while kissing the other girl. Mirela was getting in the mood and wanted me to go on. I asked to switch back to oral sex and the hesitant girl was telling me that it was taking me too long to come after 20 minutes into the session. She had made a comment before that I'm taking too long so I thanked her and asked her to leave the room as I do not like to be rushed. Carried on with Mirela who made me cum with her mouth. She had told me she does not like CIM so I pulled out just before I came. That was a 230 real well spend and I nearly used the full 30 minutes. Now I know that some girls at Eden Spa do not do oral without condom. It's always good to ask and not assume. Rubi is certainly the star of the place so far.
Who is interested in teaming up to visit a few termas? I find them a bit boring to visit on my own as the girls normally only speak Portuguese (and I don't). I'm in Rio until next Wednesday. Please send me a PM if you are interested.
DriftClouds
12-15-22, 05:25
Do you bring your own chair? I watched about 20 Rio beach videos. Never saw any vacant chair.
The Critic
12-15-22, 07:17
Do you bring your own chair? I watched about 20 Rio beach videos. Never saw any vacant chair.You can if you want to however, most just pay a few $Reais for rental chair / umbrella to the beach vendors. Some days (usually weekends or holidays) the beaches can get packed to the point of no availability.
Do you bring your own chair? I watched about 20 Rio beach videos. Never saw any vacant chair.Never had an issue. There are always chairs and umbrellas available.
Yesterday afternoon, I had a disappointing experience at Massagem Tijuca. I arrived shortly after 3 pm. There was a lineup of 6 girls, most of which doable. None of the girls smiled or showed any eagerness to session with me. I picked Jessica as she was the best looking one but that was probably a mistake. In the room, she was very passive, I did not even get eye contact from her. Her whole attitude told me that she did not want to be there and wanted to get it over with as soon as possible. Ok, I guess I was not her type but in her profession she should be able to act as if, right? No kisses and she had a condom ready before I was hard, which was not helpful for any progress from my side. I considered walking out of there but I did not want to make a drama. So, I cut my losses and asked her to give me a massage with happy end. The massage was worthless but she at least knew how to give a happy end. That was 130 Reais not well spent. I've read some positive comments about massagem Tijuca so I suppose I just had bad luck with my choice.
I matched with a Carioca. She had a nice personality and good looking. She lives in 'Zona Norte' so I checked the guiademoteis.com.br site and selected the Corinto Hotel that was close to her. The rate at Corinto Hotel for up to 12 hours is 109 BRL. The hotel / room was clean with good bed, A/C and shower. I spent about an hour with her. She is in her mid 30's and does not have another job right now. She wanted 400 BRL and that is what I gave her. Overall, it was a better value than spending the money in a Terma with a very small room for 40 minutes.
I also matched with another very attractive girl. We chatted for a day and then she asked for money to buy groceries without meeting first. So I ended the chat. Anyone asking for money first I think is a scam. Overall, I think Tinder is a good option to use in Rio. You just have to be wise and careful and not to rush bringing someone to your apartment.
Who is interested in teaming up to visit a few termas? I find them a bit boring to visit on my own as the girls normally only speak Portuguese (and I don't). I'm in Rio until next Wednesday. Please send me a PM if you are interested.I like to see one or two other Termas. The better / cleaner ones. Will send you a PM.
Does anyone have a good recommendation for a barber who can cut beards and goatees? (Especially for black men). I have been here for almost 2 months and I can't find one decent barber to cut my goatee. I know that hear are relatively new to Brasil, so I can understand the lack of skill, but damn it's frustrating. I have been to 5 barbers since I arrived and each one fucked up my goatee!! What makes it worse is that I have a picture of my face after I saw my barber in the states as a reference for them to follow and they still couldn't cut correctly. I know when I get back to the states my barber is going to look at me like "WTF?
Erectus Indicus
12-15-22, 20:55
Does anyone have a good recommendation for a barber who can cut beards and goatees? (Especially for black men). I have been here for almost 2 months and I can't find one decent barber to cut my goatee. I know that hear are relatively new to brasil, so I can understand the lack of skill, but damn it's frustrating. I have been to 5 barbers since I arrived and each one fucked up my goatee!! What makes it worse is that I have a picture of my face after I saw my barber in the states as a reference for them to follow and they still couldn't cut correctly. I know when I get back to the states my barber is going to look at me like "WTF?I have used the ones near diagonally opposite to Bip Bip on Rua Almirante Goncalves a couple of times. They seemed old and experienced and gave a good cut but I thought they were a bit classist / racist. Every time I went they told me the price first and asked if it was ok. May be I got that wrong and they were being transparent. I am Asian BTW. I have not used them for anything beard-related though and it has been a while since I was in Rio.
Does anyone have a good recommendation for a barber who can cut beards and goatees? (Especially for black men). I have been here for almost 2 months and I can't find one decent barber to cut my goatee. I know that hear are relatively new to brasil, so I can understand the lack of skill, but damn it's frustrating. I have been to 5 barbers since I arrived and each one fucked up my goatee!! What makes it worse is that I have a picture of my face after I saw my barber in the states as a reference for them to follow and they still couldn't cut correctly. I know when I get back to the states my barber is going to look at me like "WTF?I know a barber shop in Saigon where you can get a good blow job. I'm not really sure about their trimming skills. LOL.
Mr Enternational
12-16-22, 02:38
Does anyone have a good recommendation for a barber who can cut beards and goatees?I go to a Venezuelan dude Roberto at Shopping Cidade Copacabana BE #40 45 reais.
CenTexCrash
12-16-22, 04:26
First day ever in Rio (and Brazil).
Red eye 1 am arrival, stayed at airport hotel, then swapped over to different Airbnb at decent normal hours.
Read reports and packed cash for possible spa / prive outing.
Met up with another ISGer. Swapped stories. Had itch for 4 x4 (or similar terma (s) so 4 x4 it was.
Payment is not collected at entry, given a wristband with barcode to ring up your drink / room tab. We both got a slight bit of sticker shock on current rates. Staff assured me they take cards if short on cash.
We sat down, both contemplated finishing drinks and switching to prive down street. But then the girls started chatting us up and yeah.
While my first seat mate was an absolute knockout, I wanted to see what other prospects were in the room.
Many of girls spoke decent English, I mixed some Spanish in to bridge.
Several of these girls were knockouts and at least 6 were totally compatible. They were dry humping, slow peck kissing, everything to get me worked up. And it was working.
However reading about reports of sex in prives / terapias for BR150, I was just not feeling the asking price of BR300/30 minutes or BR420/60 minutes. I was so torn to pull trigger but I just wasn't 100% prepared for that price point, but damn they put up a great performance. Maybe I'll make it my special night later this trip. Was also assured an hour session allows multiple pops, some girls even offered CIM.
Paid tab of 1 drink, 1 cover, about BR83 (barely $16), have to show payment receipt to be allowed to leave, the exit routes thru a hidden VIP lounge with additional girls in hopes of luring customers to stay a little longer.
Since we were in Centro, went to a nearby prive recently reported at Trece de Maio street 21st floor, but it was 7 pm when we got there, they closed already.
Next to ride to Eden Spa in Copacabana. Earlier that day on WhatsApp they named upwards 8 girls available. Also at this point of 7:30 pm realized I haven't eaten since breakfast so quick pause.
Got to Eden at 8 pm, they close at 10 pm only 3 girls still remain, quoted BR150/30 minutes BR200/60 minutes. Initially picked Angel, but (thankfully before handing payment to hostess) when I was told she doesn't do BBBJ, asked and other girl Tiffany did.
The BBBJ was nice but kissing was light pecks which really wasn't doing it for me, actual sex was only slight step above mechanical.
Pay extra BR50 to get full hour=still only get one relation / pop / pulvo. This wasn't the case in Mexico / Argentina / Colombia.
We chatted up stuff for last 30 minutes.
Thinking maybe the termas are more my jam, unless the prives come thru in the clutch. Or maybe I got a dud spa.
Does anyone have a good recommendation for a barber who can cut beards and goatees? (Especially for black men). I have been here for almost 2 months and I can't find one decent barber to cut my goatee. I know that hear are relatively new to brasil, so I can understand the lack of skill, but damn it's frustrating. I have been to 5 barbers since I arrived and each one fucked up my goatee!! What makes it worse is that I have a picture of my face after I saw my barber in the states as a reference for them to follow and they still couldn't cut correctly. I know when I get back to the states my barber is going to look at me like "WTF?I recommend the barbers at Edifício Central, downstairs. Old school and very skilled. I'm not sure about goate beards.
There is another place in one of the Leme comunidades. Three young guys that are very popular. They cut everything, even design art in the hair. Usually their locations is cool, but their barber shop is just in the no mans land between bandit area and police area.
CenTexCrash
12-16-22, 04:32
Wondering what other active open termas besides 4 x4 are worth checking out. Running into outdated sources listing places no longer open.
DgWarMyMan82
12-16-22, 05:11
Does anyone have a good recommendation for a barber who can cut beards and goatees? (Especially for black men). I have been here for almost 2 months and I can't find one decent barber to cut my goatee. I know that hear are relatively new to brasil, so I can understand the lack of skill, but damn it's frustrating. I have been to 5 barbers since I arrived and each one fucked up my goatee!! What makes it worse is that I have a picture of my face after I saw my barber in the states as a reference for them to follow and they still couldn't cut correctly. I know when I get back to the states my barber is going to look at me like "WTF?From one brotha to another, you're better off just trimming it yourself during your stay because it's difficult to find a good Brazilian barber unless you're Brazilian. I've actually been living in Rio since May 2021 and gave up a long time ago with trying to find a good barber. The problem is the Brazilians will both overcharge and purposely give you a subpar haircut simply because you're a foreigner. And if you're black, it might also be due to racism. As an example, I went to a barber in Copacabana in 2021. There was a Brazilian guy getting a haircut along with his beard trimmed and lined up in one chair alongside another Brazilian customer in a second chair. After about 20 minutes of waiting, I took the second chair and asked for a low taper, trim, and line-up. By that time, the dude in the first chair had already gotten his haircut and the barber was about halfway finished lining up his beard. Long story short, the barber cutting my hair rushed to finish in about five minutes and completely ignored what I asked for. He gave me a high-bald fade with a shitty line-up. The irony is the Brazilian dude getting his hair cut was still in the chair getting his beard lined-up and his haircut / line-up was the quality that I expected with my haircut. A few weeks later, I got my haircut at a different barbershop—far away from the tourist area. I. e. Copacabana—and the same thing happened again. There are good barbers here but it's difficult to find them and / or to getting good service if you're not Brazilian; and a lot of times the ones that know how to cut black hair are probably located in the favelas. And it's not worth the risk.
Wondering what other active open termas besides 4 x4 are worth checking out. Running into outdated sources listing places no longer open.The only other true terma I'd recommend is Solarium, but keep in mind it's pricier than 4 x4.
The appeal of termas to me is the sheer amount of adult entertainment you can get outside the room. To me the action in the room is just a cherry on top, not the cake. Some guys just spend a couple of hours, then get out and go to a prive, and that's fine, but let me put it this way. Alcohol costs less in a liquor store, but I still buy drinks at a bar or restaurant. Because I'd rather have a drink when and where I want.
The Critic
12-16-22, 08:35
Wondering what other active open termas besides 4 x4 are worth checking out. Running into outdated sources listing places no longer open.You can start with these since have been mentioned recently.
Solarium.
Perola Negra.
Monte Carlo.
Centaurus.
Houston Player
12-16-22, 10:41
Wondering what other active open termas besides 4 x4 are worth checking out. Running into outdated sources listing places no longer open.I don't think there are any Termas worth checking out for you because 4 x4 is the cheapest one. Most of the others are more expensive. If you won't pay 4 x4 prices to fuck (in your own words) an absolute knockout then I think you will be disappointed with the pricing and selection at the other Termas.
Maybe try Vila Mimosa or hookup with Vagabundo and let him show you the cheaper places downtown.
I don't think there are any Termas worth checking out for you because 4 x4 is the cheapest one. Most of the others are more expensive. If you won't pay 4 x4 prices to fuck (in your own words) an absolute knockout then I think you will be disappointed with the pricing and selection at the other Termas.
Maybe try Vila Mimosa or hookup with Vagabundo and let him show you the cheaper places downtown.4 X4 is the cheapest of the tier-1 termas but there are are several tier-2 ones (and below). Of course, these places are not as nice as 4 X4 or Solarium but sometimes you can find real gems in these places. Just to mention a few in Centro:
Terma 21, Rua Buenos Aires 21 (near 4 X4).
Cancun, Rua do Carmo 64.
Club 502, Rua the Alfandaga 65.
Whiskeria 65, Rua do Rosario 65.
There are many more of these tier-2 termas spread out all over Rio.
Axel Heyst
12-16-22, 14:13
You can start with these since have been mentioned recently.
Solarium. Perola Negra. Monte Carlo. Centaurus.CenTexCrash, you certainly had an interesting 1st night on the town even though it did not go the way you originally envisioned it would. KKK. The Critic has listed the top 4 RJ Termas. Including 4 x4 that makes the top 5. I rate Solarium #1 for its girls. 4 x4 is #1 for its atmosphere and circus circus like entertainment qualities. Perola Negra is a late-night kind of place that does not really get going until after midnight. MC is a waste of time IMHO, and while Centauras might have some attractive girls, it is the most expensive of the top 5 termas.
But I am afraid I have to agree with Houston Player.
I don't think there are any Termas worth checking out for you because 4 x4 is the cheapest one. Most of the others are more expensive. If you won't pay 4 x4 prices to fuck (in your own words) an absolute knockout then I think you will be disappointed with the pricing and selection at the other Termas.
Maybe try Vila Mimosa or hookup with Vagabundo and let him show you the cheaper places downtown.If you, on your 1st night in town, could walk away from (your words) an "absolute knockout" over a 200 BR difference (420 br at 4 x4 vs. 200 br at some Prive) then the RJ Termas may not be your thing. But your big mistake was in timing. You went too late to a Prive. I think you will find that in Prive Land, the earlier the better is what you should shoot for and maybe check out VM later at night. Good Luck. I am sure you will eventually find what you are looking for.
TonyCarioca11
12-16-22, 14:38
I like to see one or two other Termas. The better / cleaner ones. Will send you a PM.If you want a club without the bathrobes let me know as we could go together on Saturday and get a bottle to share (400 real for the bottle with mixers I think and will confirm).
Perola Negra is in Barra. PM me if interested. I noted on my last visit that small groups who order a bottle get all the attention from the girls.
30 real entrance fee
Prices for 30 min are 270 real standard room
40 min 350 real in VIP room
Mr Enternational
12-16-22, 15:26
I don't think there are any Termas worth checking out for you because 4 x4 is the cheapest one. Most of the others are more expensive. If you won't pay 4 x4 prices to fuck (in your own words) an absolute knockout then I think you will be disappointed with the pricing and selection at the other Termas.That shit was hilarious. Usually a brand new guy that has made all the trouble to travel to Brazil will pull out all the stops. He chose to pay $37 at a place he seemed meh about even having to switch girls at the last minute, over $56 at a place he seemed really excited about that the chicks were ticking off all his boxes. Go figure.
If I am at the rental car place and they tell me $56 for my Ferrari dream car, I am not opting for a $37 Volkswagen instead. I am about to drive the fuck out of the Ferrari. And like the people said, they take credit cards. Even as cheap as I am, I am not about to pass up the moment I have been waiting for over $20. If I was hard up for money, I would use the card and worry about the payment later. That is the American way.
Just a quick reminder of the good times I used to have at 4 x 4.
Made a quick stop in Rio from SP and wanted to share my experiences.
4 x 4.
Went here on two days, both times the lineup was only okay but there were definitely a few lookers in the mix. Found a girl with a gorgeous face and solid body, and I tried to wave her over but she kept sitting with her friends. Waited about 10 minutes and went over and introduced myself directly, asked her to come sit with me, and shortly after we went up to the room. She was much much better in the room than downstairs, and the service was great. Anal was included for the standard fee.
I went back day two when she told me she'd be in, but the woman at the desk confirmed she hadn't yet arrived. It's definitely a lot quieter early, but after nearly giving up I saw a pretty girl wander into and out of the bar area. Woman at the desk told me to check another place and sure enough I found her. Very brief chat as I was pressed for time, and off we went. Service again was really solid, though she told me she doesn't do anal.
Solarium.
This place had a gorgeous lineup. No, its not Scandallo, but nowhere is. In 4 x4 I was interested in maybe 3/15 girls, here I would have considered 15/20. I met a girl who spoke great English, and talked a pretty good game. I'm always skeptical when a woman says all the right things, but boy did she deliver. In terms of raw physical passion, she easily took the #1 spot for this trip. I also sessioned with a second girl right before close. She was pretty and the service was fine, though I was pretty eager to get out of there so I wasn't looking for anything mind blowing (and after the first girl that would frankly have been impossible).
Eden Spa.
I wasn't sure I was in the right place at first, but the number on the building matched the address, and I remembered someone here saying 4th floor so I found it okay. They had around 10 girls, only one of which I'd consider, but one is all you need. She asked if she could do a CBJ, and while I felt like I could say no, I wasn't inclined to pick anyone else and for R150 I'm not expecting the world. Fairly mediocre but not terrible. I wouldn't go again, but I could see why someone might head there before a trip to 4 x 4 or Solarium.
I don't remember most of the prices at the termas, but when you get there they are very clearly spelled out, and in fact the front desk at Solarium would speak to me on the phone whenever I'd take a girl upstairs and confirm the new total of my bill. It all seemed very above board. The lockers seemed safe-ish, and I had no problems with them at both establishments. I changed into the robe and preferred it, but I did see people in street clothes in 4 x4 for sure. I personally wouldn't recommend it. You don't need cash, and the robe has a pocket for your phone if needed (I brought mine to translate).
4 X4 is the cheapest of the tier-1 termas but there are are several tier-2 ones (and below). Of course, these places are not as nice as 4 X4 or Solarium but sometimes you can find real gems in these places. Just to mention a few in Centro:
Terma 21, Rua Buenos Aires 21 (near 4 X4).
Cancun, Rua do Carmo 64.
Club 502, Rua the Alfandaga 65.
Whiskeria 65, Rua do Rosario 65.
There are many more of these tier-2 termas spread out all over Rio.Right, but none of them is a real terma. Boates, not termas.
BTW, Cancun has been renamed into New York, I believe.
Look I don't care that Gparena lists them as termas. To me it's not a terma if you don't change into a robe and have access to a sauna, showers; where you can relax and take your sweet time. 65 does have lockers, but most people go in street clothes, and I don't like to be the only disrobed dude in a joint.
Although, there is nothing wrong about these fine establishments.
That shit was hilarious. Usually a brand new guy that has made all the trouble to travel to Brazil will pull out all the stops. He chose to pay $37 at a place he seemed meh about even having to switch girls at the last minute, over $56 at a place he seemed really excited about that the chicks were ticking off all his boxes. Go figure.
LOL, I try not to be judgmental as everyone has to find a balance between his lust and his budget, but I can't say I disagree.
Made a quick stop in Rio from SP and wanted to share my experiences.
Eden Spa.
I wasn't sure I was in the right place at first, but the number on the building matched the address, and I remembered someone here saying 4th floor so I found it okay. They had around 10 girls, only one of which I'd consider, but one is all you need. She asked if she could do a CBJ, and while I felt like I could say no, I wasn't inclined to pick anyone else and for R150 I'm not expecting the world. Fairly mediocre but not terrible. I wouldn't go again, but I could see why someone might head there before a trip to 4 x 4 or Solarium.
Carla. If she's still there, make sure she's available or better yet make an appointment.
Smiller1231
12-17-22, 00:26
I matched with a Carioca. She had a nice personality and good looking. She lives in 'Zona Norte' so I checked the guiademoteis.com.br site and selected the Corinto Hotel that was close to her. The rate at Corinto Hotel for up to 12 hours is 109 BRL. The hotel / room was clean with good bed, A/C and shower. I spent about an hour with her. She is in her mid 30's and does not have another job right now. She wanted 400 BRL and that is what I gave her. Overall, it was a better value than spending the money in a Terma with a very small room for 40 minutes.
I also matched with another very attractive girl. We chatted for a day and then she asked for money to buy groceries without meeting first. So I ended the chat. Anyone asking for money first I think is a scam. Overall, I think Tinder is a good option to use in Rio. You just have to be wise and careful and not to rush bringing someone to your apartment.I've connected with several women on Tinder but have a very low hit rate of English speakers. Am I wasting my time there since I can't speak Portuguese?
(long time view, first time poster. Thank you all for the valuable info!
Right, but none of them is a real terma. Boates, not termas.
BTW, Cancun has been renamed into New York, I believe.
Look I don't care that Gparena lists them as termas. To me it's not a terma if you don't change into a robe and have access to a sauna, showers; where you can relax and take your sweet time. 65 does have lockers, but most people go in street clothes, and I don't like to be the only disrobed dude in a joint.
Although, there is nothing wrong about these fine establishments.Right, boates it is. Which should then also include Perola Negra in Barra. By the way, when I visited 4 X4, yesterday I was surprised when being told at the counter that I could enter in street clothes if I liked. It was good to see that the great majority of guests still changed into a robe but it may be a sign of the times. Are the "real" termas disappearing in Rio?
I've connected with several women on Tinder but have a very low hit rate of English speakers. Am I wasting my time there since I can't speak Portuguese?
(long time view, first time poster. Thank you all for the valuable info!That has been my experience as well. I know Spanish at a decent level so I use that plus the Google Translate to be able to communicate.
The only other true terma I'd recommend is Solarium, but keep in mind it's pricier than 4 x4.
The appeal of termas to me is the sheer amount of adult entertainment you can get outside the room. To me the action in the room is just a cherry on top, not the cake. Some guys just spend a couple of hours, then get out and go to a prive, and that's fine, but let me put it this way. Alcohol costs less in a liquor store, but I still buy drinks at a bar or restaurant. Because I'd rather have a drink when and where I want.Agreed. That's what makes termas great. You can hang around an hour or two making out with chicks, groping them, and having them grab your dick. Go to the cabin for a session, shower, relax in the sauna, and then start all over again. Termas and FKKs are two of the great inventions of mankind.
Vagabundo1
12-17-22, 12:35
The week in beisball.
A.
Last Saturday, Vagabundo lead Jimmy Boy and another buddy on a centro prive attack, in which Jimmy Boy played his dago wop boticelli trash romantic music and finally fucked nani at emporio do banho, 90 r for half hour.
Then we had whiskeys at cais do oriente, and saw the art exhibits at praca xv.
Then we went to vm. Man some hot negra talent there.
Then we walked out and chedked out quintal motel near sao cristavao metro, 50 reais, half hour, closest motel to vm.
Then we took the metro to jimmy boy's love pad at alvarim 37, recharged cells, and then crawled through lapa, up house, stripper club, new club. Best club was ganja coffee shop! The hot server girl there sara serves up her holes to pretos in suruba de preto night at my swing club. I usually have monique take her out on a leash with a jeweeld butt plug up her blond ass, but that is a inside baseball brazilian thing. Her boyfriend sells her cheap to ganja lovers.
He is sick of her too.
Then we went to perola negra, where vagabundo smoked ganja with super hot 18 year old vascaina new stripper girls at perola, and did DFK beijos with them.
There are super hot bitches all over this fucking city, so come and fuck some of them.
TonyCarioca11
12-17-22, 14:26
First visit with a friend and we were both told that entrance is 30 reals with payment for drinks and entrance fee at exit. We first did a tour of the room where the girls sit around in very low light conditions and then went to the bar and grabbed some drinks after looking at the prices. Corona 26 reals and Caipivodka 40 reals. The nice bars in Barra charge around 30 reals for a caipivodka.
I liked a slim girl and went to talk to her and asked her to sit with us. She introduced her friend to us and so we both had a girl to chat. There was not much chemistry and appartenyly she did not like CIM and wanted an expensive drink so I excused myself. Went to the bathroom and when I came back both were gone. There was another slim girl and this time I invited her for a chat. This fake blonde with long hair (Maria?) said she is ok with DFK and CIM if we book 40 minutes with the nicer room for 350 real. My friend was approached by an English speaking lady (Lorena) who told him the same story. Here are the two mistakes we made: 1 - We trusted the girls and did not try DFK in the room 2- We accepted the 40 minutes and nice room for 350 too soon without having fun with the girls in the room.
Unfotunately in the room both of them did not do DFK. I actually thought of the FKK rule of immediately leaving the room but then relaised that all my stuff was not in a locker but hanging in the room. I suddenly understoof the benefit of locking your valuables up in a Therma or FKK. My girl could only do oral sex for 30 seconds after which she was starting to use her hand. We had poor sex in a few positions and went back to oral. CIM was impossible as she was constantly pulling back so I could not come when the 40 minutes were up. She insisted that I tale her number which I refused as she did not DFK as she promised and her oral technique was poor.
I was in the holiday mood and did not want to complain so sat down in the room with my friend after the time was up. However Lorena (the girl my friend went to the room with) came to talk to my friend and gave him the thumbs up for taking her number. She gave me the thumbs down and said a few nasty things as I apparently offended my girl by not taking her number. That crossed the line so I went to the reception and asked for the manager. I explained that the promise about DFK was not kept and how I was snitched and then offended in the room by Lorena. The manager apologised for Maria and told me that she will have a word with her. She asked me to point out Lorena which I did and then a bit later Lorena was called out by the manager for a converstation. She was back 30 minutes later. These kind of dishonest and rude girls would never be allowed to work in a proper FKK (there are not many of those left post-pandemic).
Back in the room there were some new girls. One with innocent looks who I felt would be more honest. Went next to her and after introductions and short small talk went to the point: Do you for DFK? Yes. Do you do CIM? Yes. Should we go to the room for 30 minutes? Yes. That was short and sweet. Paid 250 real instead of the expected 270 and the room was of much much smaller than the 40 minutes room. At Centaurus they would have given me an upgrade due to the issues with the 2 girls. This girl (Flor) kept her promises and it was a great session. I came in her mouth and while I was waiting for her to spit in the shower she actually swallowed. Wooow! Happy ending. Bar tab was 2 beers and a water coming to 92 real with the entrance fee.
Lot of good looking girls so may be back. A word of warning: trans-girls work there. These are guys who had an operation and now have female genital including fake boobs. I'm posting this report late so that there is no bad blood with those 2 girls mentioned by name when I go there next time.
One massive advantage of Perola Negra is that they do not charge extra for credit card or foreign card payments.
TonyCarioca11
12-17-22, 14:33
If you want a club without the bathrobes let me know as we could go together on Saturday and get a bottle to share (400 real for the bottle with mixers I think and will confirm).
Perola Negra is in Barra. PM me if interested. I noted on my last visit that small groups who order a bottle get all the attention from the girls.
After posting the review I realised that the only reason I like Perola Negra is the low cost of entry compared to a nice Therma. I certainly had more fun at Centaurus and other thermas in the past.
I know Perola Negra (which opens at 8 pm) is not a therma but an anomaly for Rio. A club full of working girls but which also has different room types. It's a great idea if you ask me but poorly managed. Perola Negra has IG posts about promotions so I wrote them on IG. They get back to me 3 days later on IG telling me to use whatsapp. I write them on whatsapp, nobody responds. I think management needs to step up on all fronts.
TonyCarioca11
12-17-22, 19:51
Called and asked the line-up and saw that Laticia was there. Walked to the building and up the elevator to the 4th floor. Laticia was introduced first and she was my type: Tall and slim with a nice smile. I told Laticia that I do not need to see any other girl. She told me she does not do CIM but said ok to DFK. Paid 150 real for 30 minutes and was asked to wait in the room. Laticia walked in at 2. 30 pm and called the madam to check-in the start time. Then Laticia immediately grabbed my dick and started rubbing it with her hand while I wanted a bit of forepaly. She was in rush mood while I was in let's take it slow I'm on holiday and relaxed mood. After a bit of kissing she gave a poor blowjob and asked if she can put the condom on. I told her that I was not ready and that I need a bit more of her attention. After another 2 minutes I put the condom on started with doggy, then missionary, then she on top facing me and facing away. Back to missionary and Laticia was acting like a porn-star with loud moaning. This was a bit distracting for me so could not cum. Asked to switch back to oral taking the condom off. She did a few minutes of oral and as we hit the 18 minutes mark (clock on wall), she stopped and said that I should wank and cum on her body. She told me that I'm taking too long and that time is nearly up. I told her to chill and lie down so I can give her a massage. At around 20 minute into the session the phone rings and even Laticia know the time is not up yet so she goes and talks to the madam and comes back. I giver her a 3 minute massage and she says to me get the condom on and fuck her but that I'm not getting any more oral. So I ask for a towel and shower and left without cuming. It's not a huge loss as it was only 150 real. Was really excited about Laticia's looks but sadly she has a poor oral technique and rushes far too much. Rubi is on holiday otherwise I would have done a follow on session with her.
Hello everyone,
I will be making my 1st visit to Rio next week. I'the like to cut straight to the chase. Where do I go to pick up girls? Nightclubs or off the streets? I've been to many other countries so I know how to handle the game just need to know where to go. Thank you.
DreamCarnarvon
12-18-22, 03:50
Was really excited about Laticia's looks but sadly she has a poor oral technique and rushes far too much.A lot of lazy ass girls in these Rio prives. And they come back and charge clients 150 for a poor passionless rushed service. Such a turn off when these lazy ass girls give you a minute of lackluster BJ and be reaching for the condom. I always tell them what's the rush, we have an hour. And they play it off and tell me oh I'm just getting it ready. Most girls will then get the hint that they need to take things slow with me. But with a girl like Leticia, one should just terminated the session early and walk out. Need to let her know that type of behavior and service will not be tolerated. If she doesn't want to do her job there are plenty of other equally as beautiful girls who will. And in the end she will be the one who suffers.
That shit was hilarious. Usually a brand new guy that has made all the trouble to travel to Brazil will pull out all the stops. He chose to pay $37 at a place he seemed meh about even having to switch girls at the last minute, over $56 at a place he seemed really excited about that the chicks were ticking off all his boxes. Go figure.
If I am at the rental car place and they tell me $56 for my Ferrari dream car, I am not opting for a $37 Volkswagen instead. I am about to drive the fuck out of the Ferrari. And like the people said, they take credit cards. Even as cheap as I am, I am not about to pass up the moment I have been waiting for over $20. If I was hard up for money, I would use the card and worry about the payment later. That is the American way.
Just a quick reminder of the good times I used to have at 4 x 4.They are beautiful. You have more photos showing there 2 of their full bodies?
Perola Negra field report Saturday 3rd of December. First visit with a friend and we were both told that entrance is 30 reals with payment for drinks and entrance fee at exit. ... Wooow! Happy ending. Bar tab was 2 beers and a water coming to 92 real with the entrance fee.
One massive advantage of Perola Negra is that they do not charge extra for credit card or foreign card payments. Thanks for the update on Perola Negra.
... Lot of good looking girls so may be back. A word of warning: trans-girls work there. These are guys who had an operation and now have female genital including fake boobs. ... Strange mix of "working girls" at what I assumed to be a gentleman's boate/club? Anyways, that's a good "heads-up" (pun intended...kkkk) and very good to know before heading out there in Barra.
WanderingMan
12-18-22, 13:31
I have traveled with a wingman to the Dominican Republic for the last six or seven years. Beaches are great. Sosua went bad several years ago, so we have frequented Blackbeards in Puerto Plata. Quite frankly, it's dead, and many of the restaurants in Costambar closed, making it worse.
The wingman is always looking for anal girls, and some members here mentioned the love of anal in Brazil in the threads. It appears as if Copacabana is the place to go if you love the beach and members discussed Mab's as a pick-up site near / on the beach. There is limited discussion on girl-friendly hotels and it seems as though the Promenade Princess Copacabana isn't taking reservations for some reason. That's unfortunate since their rooms have kitchens and a sitting area. Their website is down. We are considering the Praia Lido or Hotel Atlantico as possibilities but would much rather have an apartment. Not many folks mention AirBNB establishments that are girl-friendly. Do any of you vets have any recommendations for girl-friendly AirBNB establishments? Is there a way to read the advertisements to determine if they are girl-friendly? Some secret code of sorts?
Are most of the girls / freelancers you find on the beach back-door friendly girls?
Thanks.
Erectus Indicus
12-18-22, 14:05
I have traveled with a wingman to the Dominican Republic for the last six or seven years. Beaches are great. Sosua went bad several years ago, so we have frequented Blackbeards in Puerto Plata. Quite frankly, it's dead, and many of the restaurants in Costambar closed, making it worse.
The wingman is always looking for anal girls, and some members here mentioned the love of anal in Brazil in the threads. It appears as if Copacabana is the place to go if you love the beach and members discussed Mab's as a pick-up site near / on the beach. There is limited discussion on girl-friendly hotels and it seems as though the Promenade Princess Copacabana isn't taking reservations for some reason. That's unfortunate since their rooms have kitchens and a sitting area. Their website is down. We are considering the Praia Lido or Hotel Atlantico as possibilities but would much rather have an apartment. Not many folks mention AirBNB establishments that are girl-friendly. Do any of you vets have any recommendations for girl-friendly AirBNB establishments? Is there a way to read the advertisements to determine if they are girl-friendly? Some secret code of sorts?
Are most of the girls / freelancers you find on the beach back-door friendly girls?
Thanks.There are a few mentions in the Rio Hotels & Apartments thread (Pestana being mentioned recently). When I started going to Rio, I had used Amerioca and had no problems but Don had closed shop more than a decade ago. I am going after almost a decage to monger and I am trying find these guest friendly ones myself.
As for girls, I generally went to termas / prives and do the interview as suggested to filter for anal if I was feeling like it and then have a great time usually. You can try at the beach / Mab's etc but the few times I have tried it, I didn't get the backdoor option. But if you go to termas and get the numbers of the girls you are in-sync with, that should keep you entertained on weekends and nights as well.
Good luck!
WanderingMan
12-18-22, 23:42
Thank you. I went back a year reading posts in the general forum not realizing the issue had its own thread. After reading the Hotels and Apartments thread it looks as though hotels might present the best option. In the Hotels and Apartments thread, members stated the Promenade Princess Hotel now functions as apartments, not a hotel. That information helped a lot. I will be selecting a girl-friendly hotel in Copacabana. We enjoy the beach so Copacabana is high on the list.
Thanks for the tips on the girls and the termas. I have read the term "prives" but am uncertain what it means. The translator says it means "deprives. " We are reviewing some of the websites as well. One of them is https://www.photoacompanhantes.com, another is www.leblonescorts.com The first shows some profiles have verified photos. The other looks like a small site where girls pay to advertise. From what members write, anal shouldn't be a rare event in Rio.
Lots of time between now and March. Thanks for the help.
There are a few mentions in the Rio Hotels & Apartments thread (Pestana being mentioned recently). When I started going to Rio, I had used Amerioca and had no problems but Don had closed shop more than a decade ago. I am going after almost a decage to monger and I am trying find these guest friendly ones myself.
As for girls, I generally went to termas / prives and do the interview as suggested to filter for anal if I was feeling like it and then have a great time usually. You can try at the beach / Mab's etc but the few times I have tried it, I didn't get the backdoor option. But if you go to termas and get the numbers of the girls you are in-sync with, that should keep you entertained on weekends and nights as well.
Good luck!
This club is in Realengo and far from Copacabana. It took 45 minutes and 70 BRL to get to the club by Uber. The club has four pool tables. All male clients are from working class. This is not another Termas Solarium. Most girls are in bikini. I rate the girls between 3 -7. They are mostly dark or darker skin. If you like dark skin, I think you will find someone that you like. The club has rooms upstairs. The charge for the girl and the room are 85 BRL /30 minutes and 145 BRL /1 h. The room for one hour has a shower. I think the other one does not. The room was clean with good A/C and shower. Since it was a long drive I decided to have a session anyway. So started talking to a girl who was playing pool. She was nice and friendly. When we went to the room she took a shower and asked me to take a shower too. Session was good including BBBJ without asking. Upon leaving the club you need to go to the cashier to pay for your drinks and the entrance fee. I paid 35 BRL for two beers and the entrance fee. Would I go there again? If it was close to 'zona sul', yes, but with a round trip of 1. 5 hours and 140 BRL Uber cost, probably not.
She told me that I'm taking too long and that time is nearly up. I told her to chill and lie down so I can give her a massage. At around 20 minute into the session the phone rings and even Laticia know the time is not up yet so she goes and talks to the madam and comes back. I giver her a 3 minute massage and she says to me get the condom on and fuck her but that I'm not getting any more oral. So I ask for a towel and shower and left without cuming. It's not a huge loss as it was only 150 real. Was really excited about Laticia's looks but sadly she has a poor oral technique and rushes far too much.NEVER has anything like that happened to me in Brazil. In other countries. Yes, but not Brazil.
That's not to say I've never had a "Rio tourist fuck" but rushing a session is a huge infraction in my book that I would report to the mamasan.
That said I rarely take less than at least 40-minute sessions because a) I know I might not be able to cum fast and b) I don't like to rush or feel rushed.
I have traveled with a wingman to the Dominican Republic for the last six or seven years. Beaches are great. Sosua went bad several years ago, so we have frequented Blackbeards in Puerto Plata. Quite frankly, it's dead, and many of the restaurants in Costambar closed, making it worse.
The wingman is always looking for anal girls, and some members here mentioned the love of anal in Brazil in the threads. It appears as if Copacabana is the place to go if you love the beach and members discussed Mab's as a pick-up site near / on the beach. There is limited discussion on girl-friendly hotels and it seems as though the Promenade Princess Copacabana isn't taking reservations for some reason. That's unfortunate since their rooms have kitchens and a sitting area. Their website is down. We are considering the Praia Lido or Hotel Atlantico as possibilities but would much rather have an apartment. Not many folks mention AirBNB establishments that are girl-friendly. Do any of you vets have any recommendations for girl-friendly AirBNB establishments? Is there a way to read the advertisements to determine if they are girl-friendly? Some secret code of sorts?
Are most of the girls / freelancers you find on the beach back-door friendly girls?
Thanks.As someone who's quite familiar with Sosua (love the beach) I can tell you one thing: Rio will blow you away. Here are a few thoughts.
1. Rio beaches aren't as cozy as the Sosua beach. They're open ocean, the sea is usually rough, and swimming is difficult. Still, the beach is gorgeous and busy.
2. Hotels. I like to stay on Avenida Atlantica, which is a Malecon in Rio. Depending on your budget you'll find cheaper places one or 2 blocks away, but nothing beats crossing the street and finding yourself on the beach. Both Hilton and JW Marriott are girl-friendly, but you'll need to check your guest at Hilton. There are more GF hotels on Atlantica, but I love Hilton for ocean-view rooms and two nice pool decks.
3. Apartments. Much cheaper than hotels, and you can find an Airbnb with a gorgeous view, but many restrict any guests who are not on your check-in list. Make sure to read the listing carefully, but I've stayed at some great apartments in Rio. Read the descriptions and the rules at the bottom of the page. When in doubt contact and ask the host.
4. Girls. I recommend to start with two termas: 4 x4 and Solarium. They are pricy for Rio, but very enjoyable. Then ease into boates (clubs) and prives ("small hoarhouses). When you feel lazy, there are tons of escort sites, too. It's possible to pick up girls on the beach, but most are not working girls, so don't be too enthusiastic, LOL. If she smiles at you it might be a sign to approach.
5. To find an anal-friendly provider ask if she's "completa".
TonyCarioca11
12-20-22, 01:07
NEVER has anything like that happened to me in Brazil. In other countries. Yes, but not Brazil.
That's not to say I've never had a "Rio tourist fuck" but rushing a session is a huge infraction in my book that I would report to the mamasan.
That said I rarely take less than at least 40-minute sessions because a) I know I might not be able to cum fast and b) I don't like to rush or feel rushed.I think this has nothing to do with how long you book the session. Some girls just should not work in this business as they are burned out and do not want to give a proper blow-job and just want the guy to come in 10 minutes. I kind of have empathy for the girls as on busy days they may have to fuck different guys and at one point they start hating all guys and just do this job for money while being disgusted by it. It's bad luck if you encounter one of these girls. Brazil does not imply that all girls who earn peanuts at the massage places love having sex. Out of the 150 real they may only get 80 real for the half hour.
It's arguably better to book a short time at a massage if you did not establish compatibility like you can in a Therma or FKK. I had two girls trying to rush me at Eden Spa out of five. The other 3 were great. In Perola Negra I had one poor performer out of 3 girls I had in 2 visits. The last one (Analu, report pending) was the best. In Perola Negra girls get 100 or 150 from the 250 real for 30 minutes.
The mamsan understood that Laticia did a poor job as I told her I will go downstairs to look at the selection there. Laticia also got the message from me. On my next visit to Rio I may not be so kind for session infractions but I let is slide on this visit due to the 150 real rate.
I think this has nothing to do with how long you book the session. Some girls just should not work in this business as they are burned out and do not want to give a proper blow-job and just want the guy to come in 10 minutes. I kind of have empathy for the girls as on busy days they may have to fuck different guys and at one point they start hating all guys and just do this job for money while being disgusted by it. It's bad luck if you encounter one of these girls. Brazil does not imply that all girls who earn peanuts at the massage places love having sex. Out of the 150 real they may only get 80 real for the half hour.
It's arguably better to book a short time at a massage if you did not establish compatibility like you can in a Therma or FKK. I had two girls trying to rush me at Eden Spa out of five. The other 3 were great. In Perola Negra I had one poor performer out of 3 girls I had in 2 visits. The last one (Analu, report pending) was the best. In Perola Negra girls get 100 or 150 from the 250 real for 30 minutes.
The mamsan understood that Laticia did a poor job as I told her I will go downstairs to look at the selection there. Laticia also got the message from me. On my next visit to Rio I may not be so kind for session infractions but I let is slide on this visit due to the 150 real rate.Different strokes for different folks. I prefer booking a longer session for my own reasons, you don't, and there are no rights or wrongs here. That said, when you book 30 minutes and after 15-20 minutes into the program still can't bust a nut, less experienced girls might start getting anxious. When I feel I might not be able to cum, I smile and tell her it's OK if I don't, I'm just enjoying her company. That normally puts them at ease and some even redouble their effort.
As for your feelings, I'm looking at it from a different angle. I'm a nice, clean and respectful person, so as long as she has chosen this life, I'm not the worst thing that can happen to her.
I'm not a god's gift to women, but this is exactly why I bring cash, LOL.
...As for your feelings, I'm looking at it from a different angle. I'm a nice, clean and respectful person, so as long as she has chosen this life, I'm not the worst thing that can happen to her.....She has choosen this life. That is not the problem. The problem is that she did not know the consequence. That is one reason there are girls that go from very good service to become dead fish. It was because they provided great service, so mongers booked them, sometimes too many, too soon, some survived fine and some broken down or "crashed" mentally.
CenTexCrash
12-20-22, 09:11
Tagged along with a (different) ISG contributor for Saturday night at Perola Negra.
I guess it was an OK turn out. Unlike 4 x4 and Club 65, rate cards weren't posted.
I wanted to do my window shopping before narrowing down finalists. Treating this as my possibly last shot to have a great session with a Brazilian model babe.
So just as luck would have it, barely 2 minutes into our entry an available WG from across room ambushes me, rubs on me, DFK in club floor.
For a second I thought she might have been one of the girls the other night at 4 x4 but no just a doppleganger, this girl had ink.
The DFK and hand action was fun, her measurements were on par, but I got a little distracted by the high mileage milfy past her sell by date status quo.
I have a tendency in other scenes to never pull the trigger on the first offer, and to browse around, when possible, before narrowing down finalists.
This lady would NOT break away from me. I was trying to politely ask if she could let me be me for a second and if I want to come back to her I'll come back to her. No. She insisted tag she's it. I haven't seen any other girls yet. She won't take the hint.
By this point, my ISG seat mate screened two girls before making his pick so he's gone.
Meanwhile I'm trying to find a chance to at least get a chance to explore the club floor. No go. Starting to get antsy. She seemed nice, performance seemed promising, but alas I came looking for a jovencita not a madura.
It was starting to get late and didn't want others waiting, and she did offer CIM and Backdoor so I regrettably took a chance.
So ordering room, initially they said 600/ HR which I said NO. Then they offered 460/ HR. I said sure I guess. I don't know if they're open to haggling with no posted rate card or if they were giving me a smaller room.
Any other ISGer probably would've knocked this one out of park, with BBBJ and a-game on the menu. Me? I'm just kinda here simply because I (over) paid for it.
I was robbed of a chance to see all available talent. Not just pounce on first offer. Trip to Rio ruined.
In all fairness she did take anal like a champ.
Also upon leaving, unlike other clubs, entry / drinks are NOT rolled in to hourly room charge.
If I ever venture into Brazil again, would like to find termas ok with serial browsing, casting wider net, where lady sits for 5 minutes after that move along let the next girl shoot her shot idk.
The Critic
12-20-22, 10:46
First visit with a friend ....and A word of warning Good report and thanks for the warning.
The Critic
12-20-22, 10:52
This club is in Realengo and far from Copacabana. Thanks for going out of your way to experience and report on Club Das Flores. It's always good to hear about new mongering venues no matter the location. With this club being so far out I doubt I will visit, but I like knowing it exists.
TonyCarioca11
12-20-22, 11:56
Tagged along with a (different) ISG contributor for Saturday night at Perola Negra.
I wanted to do my window shopping before narrowing down finalists. Treating this as my possibly last shot to have a great session with a Brazilian model babe.Sao Paulo maybe the place for models but I think those with amazing looks sometimes do not provide the best service.
So just as luck would have it, barely 2 minutes into our entry an available WG from across room ambushes me, rubs on me, DFK in club floor.
For a second I thought she might have been one of the girls the other night at 4 x4 but no just a doppleganger, this girl had ink.
The DFK and hand action was fun, her measurements were on par, but I got a little distracted by the high mileage milfy past her sell by date status quo.
I have a tendency in other scenes to never pull the trigger on the first offer, and to browse around, when possible, before narrowing down finalists.
This lady would NOT break away from me. I was trying to politely ask if she could let me be me for a second and if I want to come back to her I'll come back to her. No. She insisted tag she's it. I haven't seen any other girls yet. She won't take the hint.
I thought you two had a connection and the woman genuinly liked you. Most important is to make a decision. I think you could have send her away if you really wanted to but there was chemistry.
I was robbed of a chance to see all available talent. Not just pounce on first offer. Trip to Rio ruined.
In all fairness she did take anal like a champ.
Ok I could have written this all from a much more positive perspective. You two came down after an hour like a couple. I think you experienced the real Brazilian passion and that is not a trip to Rio ruined. My view is that picking the best looking girl who is not interested in you is nearly always a worse choice than a session with a girl you have a connection with and who is into you. This lady was so into you due to your diferent look. I never get that attention as I look like a Carioca.
TonyCarioca11
12-20-22, 12:23
We took a taxi with Texas from Copacabanca to Barra. The club is near Posto 1 and we arrived around 10 pm. Entrance 30 real to be paid on exit with the drinks.
Texas immediately got the attention of a woman, who seemed to genuinly like him. As he wanted too look around a bit more I said he can excuse himself and go to the toilet and then have a look around. He took my advise and had a quick look around before coming back to the bar. Flor from the previous visit came and said Hi to me but I gave her a bit of a cold shoulder as I had written her on whatsapp and she had blue-ticked me. Now it was my turn to ignore her. Did not see anyhting I liked and just got a sparkling water as I was drinking Gin-Tonic at home. We then sat down with Texas and his girl. I was still looking for my slim and tall type girl with a small bunda (bum). Talked to one girl and her fake boobs turned me off. My trans-alarm (note I'm not against trans people, I just do not like to have sex with them) was activated so politely excused myself. One girl caught my attention and she was at the bar next to two guys. As expected she started small talk with one of the guys at the bar but he was undecided so she stopped talking to him. This was my chance and I walked to the bar to ask for her name and all her friends were like: Wooow! This is because she had 2-3 other good looking friends with her and went straight to her making clear how she was my type. She was friendly with me so asked her if she would come and sit with me to which she responded: Of course.
As Texas was DFK it was easier for me to get Analu to make a bit more effort. So she started dancing a bit. Showing her pierced boobs. Letting me kiss her and grab her boobs and ass. She just wanted a water which was also a positive sign. As my type is very specific and as she ticked all the boxes I said that I want to have a 30 min session here to see how we get on and that we can meet in my apartment for a longer session on Sunday. After she said yes to CIM I went with her to reception to pay the 250 real for 30 minutes. The session was a blast with nice DFK to start. She did a bit of dancing rubbing her bum against me and positioning her leg in a way I could stimulate her clitoris to get her wet. Fingering was on the menu and she had a tight pussy at 23 years old. Amazing blow job. Sex in different positions and I could not hold myself as she was so tight and came while inside her with the condom. This was about 20 min into the session. We kissed and she danced a bit more. She then put her number in my phone and send herself a whatsapp message. This was a great session and Analu is now my top girl in Rio.
TonyCarioca11
12-20-22, 17:47
Went for a quickie 30 minutes at 150 real as I felt like a CIM session which Rubi happily provided. Came after 20 minutes impressed again with Rubi's technique.
I told her about the forum and she consented for her pictures to be uploaded and posed for me and took selfies for 5 minutes. Sorry for the poor lighting.
I asked Rubi about Laticia and she told me that Laticia does not like giving blowjobs. In that case I think Laticia should have told me so and I would not have selected her. Anyway I guess she thought she can just get away with it and she did!
Mr Enternational
12-20-22, 18:49
I thought you two had a connection and the woman genuinly liked you. Most important is to make a decision. I think you could have send her away if you really wanted to but there was chemistry.
Ok I could have written this all from a much more positive perspective. You two came down after an hour like a couple. I think you experienced the real Brazilian passion and that is not a trip to Rio ruined.In my opinion that brother is someone who just likes to find things to complain about. I am glad you saw the real deal with your own eyes. Who would visit the top 2 mongering places on this side of the planet (Medellin and Rio) back to back on the same trip and be full of complaints and dissatisfaction? Nobody except him. He needs to take a look in the mirror.
DreamCarnarvon
12-20-22, 19:25
I was robbed of a chance to see all available talent. Not just pounce on first offer. Trip to Rio ruined.
If I ever venture into Brazil again, would like to find termas ok with serial browsing, casting wider net, where lady sits for 5 minutes after that move along let the next girl shoot her shot idk.CIM and anal are pretty good offers. All boates / termas allow free roaming and there is no pressure from management to buy drinks or go with a girl. For some reason I rarely get approached by girls in boates. That's a curse and a blessing. Don't be afraid to reject a girl. Remember, these boate aren't cheap so you want to make sure you get your money's worth. One time, I was approached by an older garota in a boate. She was asking me to go with her but I didn't say anything hoping she would just give up and move on. But she was glued to me so I told her very blunted that she was not my type. She acted like I had offended her and walked away angrily. The next night, I went back to the same boate and I saw her again. She came up to me smiling. I asked if she was still angry at me for what happened last night. And she said no. She tried again to get me to go with her but I declined again. LOL.
The Critic
12-21-22, 07:25
Went for a quickie 30 minutes at 150 real as I felt like a CIM session which Rubi happily provided. Came after 20 minutes impressed again with Rubi's technique.
I told her about the forum and she consented for her pictures to be uploaded and posed for me and took selfies for 5 minutes. Sorry for the poor lighting.
I asked Rubi about Laticia and she told me that Laticia does not like giving blowjobs. In that case I think Laticia should have told me so and I would not have selected her. Anyway I guess she thought she can just get away with it and she did!
Wow, Rubi, is a Lovely Doll in those photos, Excellent pick! I really like your reports keep them coming!!
I decided to take a fellow mongerer and the manager of club sex 202 to 4 y4 on Monday since there was a promotion 80 realis entry, all 80 realis in consumables. But the woman at the counter (one I did not know) said to us the promotion was not for foreigners. We then began walking out but the old bald owner said we can have the promotion. We returned to the counter, but then the receptionist said it would be 100 realis for us. Still bullshit.
If we wanted to pay full price we will go on a Thursday or Christmas party Friday, not a Monday. If people try to cheat you, just walk away, even if it's a few dollars. Part of mongering is not being a simp and not taking shit from anyone.
I decided to take a fellow mongerer and the manager of club sex 202 to 4 y4 on Monday since there was a promotion 80 realis entry, all 80 realis in consumables. But the woman at the counter (one I did not know) said to us the promotion was not for foreigners. We then began walking out but the old bald owner said we can have the promotion. We returned to the counter, but then the receptionist said it would be 100 realis for us. Still bullshit.
If we wanted to pay full price we will go on a Thursday or Christmas party Friday, not a Monday. If people try to cheat you, just walk away, even if it's a few dollars. Part of mongering is not being a simp and not taking shit from anyone.Looks like we're milk brothers now with TonyCarioca11, cheers!
Now, you pay on the way out. I found it to be a waste of time to negotiate entry fees with reception and security in case of real or perceived misunderstanding. My advice is just always to have extra cash on you to be ready to settle a bill on the way out and not spoil your late evening.
Pahllus Maximus
12-23-22, 02:11
She looks just the way I like them, young, pretty and in flimsy, soft feminine lingerie rather than totally nude. I'm assuming you filled her mouth with tadpoles and no condom like all good girls should offer. Did she swallow or spit out?
Surfing regularly, blowjobs daily, high quality organic food cooked at home amongst the trees, this is the way life should be. It's unbelievable how many men are in sexless (and often indifferent or even hostile) relationships with someone who evolved into a stranger. Let me see, commuting through White Plains in traffic jams or Rio? Greetings to all and Merry Christmas special call out to Mr Enternational and his happy adventures.
DavidSmith300
12-24-22, 18:30
Long time viewer and first post, sorry. I'm looking to stay in Rio for about a month in July or August, and want a place where I can have different girls over all the time. I want something super nice, like a beachfront condo with a nice balcony in Ipanema or a suite in one of the nicest hotels. The issue is that the nicer hotels seem to have tons of security and it would seem either awkward or impossible to have girls over all the time, and I'm looking on Airbnb and lots of the nicer listings say "pre-registered guests only" and lots of stuff like that (even many reviews say no guests etc). My budget is up to $20 k I'd say for accommodation for the month, but I can't seem to find something super high-end where I can have different girls over all the time. Anyone have a solution for this in Rio? Other than that, Rio seems perfect for my mission.
Do the nightclubs require you to have long pants? Is there any kind of dress code or can you wear shorts pretty much anywhere?
Pahllus Maximus
12-25-22, 03:10
This is my 18 month survey of Rio and Brazil in answer to to Mr Smith and more generally for others. For starters, Brazil is below the equator, so July / August is winter in Rio. Meaning low 70's, so pretty mild.
The metro is your friend and I've enclosed a map. Whilst there are luxury buses from Barra and the touristy places, the traffic is bad. I like the subway for that reason, and because it is clean, cheap and frequent. The line you need is the yellow line (line 4) opened in 2016 running from Jardim Ocenico, So Conrado, Gvea, Antero de Quental, Jardim de Alah, Nossa Senhora the Paz / Siqueira Campos (Copacabana) from where you can connect to lines taking you into Centro where there are hundreds of brothels, clubs and so on.
The rundown is something like this. Barra (Jardim Ocenico) is a upper middle class wannabe place sort of like Miami but without the trash, split in half by a polluted lagoon. Make sure you are on the beach side. It tends to keep out the beggars and human flotsam. It features Club 400 (Av. Sernambetiba 400) aka the Yellow House, RJ Massagem and a ton of private girl apartments found on the usual websites like photoacompanhantes and muraldopraze. Plenty of beach accommodation. Pria Da Joatinga is a lovely spot with some cliffside places you could book direct for an extended stay. Don't feed the middlemen scumbags in Silicon Valley either your data or money.
The line heads east to Ipanema where all the malls and middle class comforts are. What you want an your tastes and budget come into play. I bought a somewhat run down villa and garden the hills in Joa that is pretty much jungle with great ocean views and a personal harem with live in caretakers/drivers/maids. I've mostly grown out of squalid tourist fuck hutches except for talent recruitment. There are hundreds of micro brothels in Centro in high rises, about BRL 100 - 150 an hour (as of today, 5. 16 USD or about USD 20-40). You can get express BJ's for as low as USD 10, but I like taking my time. A harder task is finding a real and skilled massage that is a great way to start the day, after a morning BJ or course.
Despite being a tourist trap, Copacabana has some surprisingly good upmarket restaurants, plenty of action, convenient brothels and a nice beach. Frankly I think the beach view thing is something you don't see after a few days, and with all the rooftop bars you can just visit and save your $. Don't overlook Niteroi on the other side of the harbor from Rio by ferry. Be sure to have a two girl experience every few days, one providing a testicle rub you while you fuck the other girl, lesbian eat out while you do one anally, two girl BJ, etc.
If its ocean, good seafood, surfing and sex you want, I'd suggest you head to Salvador, Bahia (plenty of girls) or Itacare with a weekly girl rental BYO arrangement. You can get a direct flight from Rio's downtown airport SDA (as opposed to GIG) to SSA. I'd also recommend Buzios some 130 miles east of Rio, and specifically Geriba Beach outside the touristy bit. It's a laid back place for the middle class families with lots of nice ocean front at a good price, or so close it does not matter. Not many girls though, so it's BYO. Food is not that good either, Buzios proper is a tourist trap.
PRACTICAL MATTERS
Get yourself a SIM when you get here and have them activate it. Buying bus tickets and so on online is a real pain unless you get a magic number from the government. I assume they do this to stop tourists spending money, or is the typical government cockamamie designed to surveil, frustrate and vex the population, though I suppose it is good underwriting tax receipts for the consumption of goods and services. Also, get a Charles Schwab and Capital One debit / ATM card. They rebate ATM fees and have a decent exchange rate with no foreign transaction rip-off fee. Be warned that Capital One latter randomly freezes accounts (for your protection they claim) when you go more than about 10 miles from your usual place. Then they might try and call you, and because you are necessarily outside of the USA, never hear from them, with the typical crushing lack of logic by fucked up retail banks and their trigger happy denial of YOUR money. This usually happens at 3 am when ordering an UBER or similar, such as paying a restaurant bill for friends.
The more card backup the better. Never trust US banks. Assume one or more cards will fail and involve hours of call center bullshit and the most canned insincere apologies and being told the massive inconvenience is all for your benefit. On the other hand, Citibank is pretty good if you get a premium package.
Rio is safe, just don't wear fancy watches or clothes or costly phones. By all means keep an credit card and say BRL 500 cash. Cards are taken in most places. Get yourself a cheap second hand phone for sex travel and never keep real data on it. Separate your life. That's good advice generally with apps, assume all smartphone data will be compromised be deliberate design. Rio has everything, black, brown, white, skinny, busty, young and experienced cougars, the choice is ridiculous. You can have a super busty black girl, a Grace Jones or a pale redhead and everything in between. When I used to travel I budgeted (per day) $200 for food and hotels and $100, so about $USD9 k for a month of total debauchery and fine dining. But you can at least chop that in two with not much effort.
You will have a lot of fun at first, but bring some work, reading material or something to learn or do (like languages), because after a few days you will be nutted out, or rather the brain reward center saturated. There is a limit to sexual pleasure because of biochemistry, probably an evolutionary thing so viable sperm can replenish between sessions. I'm not a tourist anymore, so the over compensation effects of USA sex prison deprivation have worn off. It's great watching guys eyes light up like little boys with awe and wonder at so much pussy, Disneyland for red blooded men and lusty Brazillian women, many of whom think anal is normal and most think CIM or an oily HJ is a human right for men, as it should be.
Healthcare is free (it's in the constitution), high quality teaching hospitals and meds are perhaps 90%+ cheaper than the US without any bullshit or gimmicks. Brazil is a real country. Good investments here as well, certainly better than many profit free, low ROI and / or debt ridden zombie companies in the USA. Organic food and farmers markets are also very accessible. All in all, Brazil has a lot going for it, such as water and an educated, cosmopolitan population.
There are direct flights to Europe across the Atlantic, such as to Frankfurt, Paris & Amsterdam. USA is typically via Miami, New York, Houston, Atlanta & Washington DC. Airlines are currently running full to capacity, so pick midweek, be sure to have your address prominently displayed INSIDE checked bags, bright ribbon, chalk mark etc on the outside and maybe a tracking tile for when (not if) they lose / delay your bag.
Lastly, have fun and enjoy beautiful, available, fun young women in their prime and leave behind the neurotic fat, entitled American heifers, jack booted cops, rip off health care, guns, homelessness and puritanical garbage. USA is a predatory society that is failing at even basic stuff, including its own Favelas in Los Angeles. Glen Greenwald, a good journalist, lives here, though he bats for the home team and misses out on beautiful women, but so long as he is happy, all is good. Merry Christmas everyone, my two girls will be in a Santa uniforms, but thigh highs below the waist and in stilettos, lot's of fun and games and poolside BBQ of seafood and some 12 hour fatty, organic brisket, organic salads and plush reds from Argentina. Look after the ladies, treat them well and and they give 10 x back in bed. My oh my!
P.S.: you need more vegetables, salad etc. One of the things Brazil tends to lack.
If its ocean, good seafood, surfing and sex you want, I'd suggest you head to Salvador, Bahia (plenty of girls).I would love to read more about the way the game is played in Salvador. There are not a lot of detailed reports on Salvador and information is scant. For example, what's the overall availability of brancas in Salvador? For my next trip to Brazil I'm trying to decide between bringing either Salvador or Florianopolis into the mix (or perhaps even both). It would be best to move this discussion to the Salvador thread, but I brought it up here since you mentioned it. Feedback is welcome from all with any firsthand experience and insights to share.
DavidSmith300
12-25-22, 16:15
This is my 18 month survey of Rio and Brazil in answer to to Mr Smith and more generally for others. For starters, Brazil is below the equator, so July / August is winter in Rio. Meaning low 70's, so pretty mild.
The metro is your friend and I've enclosed a map. Whilst there are luxury buses from Barra and the touristy places, the traffic is bad. I like the subway for that reason, and because it is clean, cheap and frequent. The line you need is the yellow line (line 4) opened in 2016 running from Jardim Ocenico, So Conrado, Gvea, Antero de Quental, Jardim de Alah, Nossa Senhora the Paz / Siqueira Campos (Copacabana) from where you can connect to lines taking you into Centro where there are hundreds of brothels, clubs and so on.
The rundown is something like this. Barra (Jardim Ocenico) is a upper middle class wannabe place sort of like Miami but without the trash, split in half by a polluted lagoon. Make sure you are on the beach side. It tends to keep out the beggars and human flotsam. It features Club 400 (Av. Sernambetiba 400) aka the Yellow House, RJ Massagem and a ton of private girl apartments found on the usual websites like photoacompanhantes and muraldopraze. Plenty of beach accommodation. Pria Da Joatinga is a lovely spot with some cliffside places you could book direct for an extended stay. Don't feed the middlemen scumbags in Silicon Valley either your data or money.
The line heads east to Ipanema where all the malls and middle class comforts are. What you want an your tastes and budget come into play. I bought a somewhat run down villa and garden the hills in Joa that is pretty much jungle with great ocean views and a personal harem with live in caretakers/drivers/maids. I've mostly grown out of squalid tourist fuck hutches except for talent recruitment. There are hundreds of micro brothels in Centro in high rises, about BRL 100 - 150 an hour (as of today, 5. 16 USD or about USD 20-40). You can get express BJ's for as low as USD 10, but I like taking my time. A harder task is finding a real and skilled massage that is a great way to start the day, after a morning BJ or course.
Despite being a tourist trap, Copacabana has some surprisingly good upmarket restaurants, plenty of action, convenient brothels and a nice beach. Frankly I think the beach view thing is something you don't see after a few days, and with all the rooftop bars you can just visit and save your $. Don't overlook Niteroi on the other side of the harbor from Rio by ferry. Be sure to have a two girl experience every few days, one providing a testicle rub you while you fuck the other girl, lesbian eat out while you do one anally, two girl BJ, etc.
If its ocean, good seafood, surfing and sex you want, I'd suggest you head to Salvador, Bahia (plenty of girls) or Itacare with a weekly girl rental BYO arrangement. You can get a direct flight from Rio's downtown airport SDA (as opposed to GIG) to SSA. I'd also recommend Buzios some 130 miles east of Rio, and specifically Geriba Beach outside the touristy bit. It's a laid back place for the middle class families with lots of nice ocean front at a good price, or so close it does not matter. Not many girls though, so it's BYO. Food is not that good either, Buzios proper is a tourist trap.
PRACTICAL MATTERS
Get yourself a SIM when you get here and have them activate it. Buying bus tickets and so on online is a real pain unless you get a magic number from the government. I assume they do this to stop tourists spending money, or is the typical government cockamamie designed to surveil, frustrate and vex the population, though I suppose it is good underwriting tax receipts for the consumption of goods and services. Also, get a Charles Schwab and Capital One debit / ATM card. They rebate ATM fees and have a decent exchange rate with no foreign transaction rip-off fee. Be warned that Capital One latter randomly freezes accounts (for your protection they claim) when you go more than about 10 miles from your usual place. Then they might try and call you, and because you are necessarily outside of the USA, never hear from them, with the typical crushing lack of logic by fucked up retail banks and their trigger happy denial of YOUR money. This usually happens at 3 am when ordering an UBER or similar, such as paying a restaurant bill for friends.
The more card backup the better. Never trust US banks. Assume one or more cards will fail and involve hours of call center bullshit and the most canned insincere apologies and being told the massive inconvenience is all for your benefit. On the other hand, Citibank is pretty good if you get a premium package.
Rio is safe, just don't wear fancy watches or clothes or costly phones. By all means keep an credit card and say BRL 500 cash. Cards are taken in most places. Get yourself a cheap second hand phone for sex travel and never keep real data on it. Separate your life. That's good advice generally with apps, assume all smartphone data will be compromised be deliberate design. Rio has everything, black, brown, white, skinny, busty, young and experienced cougars, the choice is ridiculous. You can have a super busty black girl, a Grace Jones or a pale redhead and everything in between. When I used to travel I budgeted (per day) $200 for food and hotels and $100, so about $USD9 k for a month of total debauchery and fine dining. But you can at least chop that in two with not much effort.
You will have a lot of fun at first, but bring some work, reading material or something to learn or do (like languages), because after a few days you will be nutted out, or rather the brain reward center saturated. There is a limit to sexual pleasure because of biochemistry, probably an evolutionary thing so viable sperm can replenish between sessions. I'm not a tourist anymore, so the over compensation effects of USA sex prison deprivation have worn off. It's great watching guys eyes light up like little boys with awe and wonder at so much pussy, Disneyland for red blooded men and lusty Brazillian women, many of whom think anal is normal and most think CIM or an oily HJ is a human right for men, as it should be.
Healthcare is free (it's in the constitution), high quality teaching hospitals and meds are perhaps 90%+ cheaper than the US without any bullshit or gimmicks. Brazil is a real country. Good investments here as well, certainly better than many profit free, low ROI and / or debt ridden zombie companies in the USA. Organic food and farmers markets are also very accessible. All in all, Brazil has a lot going for it, such as water and an educated, cosmopolitan population.
There are direct flights to Europe across the Atlantic, such as to Frankfurt, Paris & Amsterdam. USA is typically via Miami, New York, Houston, Atlanta & Washington DC. Airlines are currently running full to capacity, so pick midweek, be sure to have your address prominently displayed INSIDE checked bags, bright ribbon, chalk mark etc on the outside and maybe a tracking tile for when (not if) they lose / delay your bag.
Lastly, have fun and enjoy beautiful, available, fun young women in their prime and leave behind the neurotic fat, entitled American heifers, jack booted cops, rip off health care, guns, homelessness and puritanical garbage. USA is a predatory society that is failing at even basic stuff, including its own Favelas in Los Angeles. Glen Greenwald, a good journalist, lives here, though he bats for the home team and misses out on beautiful women, but so long as he is happy, all is good. Merry Christmas everyone, my two girls will be in a Santa uniforms, but thigh highs below the waist and in stilettos, lot's of fun and games and poolside BBQ of seafood and some 12 hour fatty, organic brisket, organic salads and plush reds from Argentina. Look after the ladies, treat them well and and they give 10 x back in bed. My oh my!
P.S.: you need more vegetables, salad etc. One of the things Brazil tends to lack.Thanks but my key question is where can I stay that's super upscale / nice but also completely girl friends (bringing multiple girls into the place each day). I'm no newb at all, not even close. Maybe with rio I am, but I don't visit these places or use public transportation etc. I'd be using like barravip to come to me, SA and on occasion going to scoop one up late night in person -- but always prefer to bring them to my place. So I don't need any advice on that aspect. My only issue is that my research (and I know how to research well), is indicating clearly that the highest end condo rentals and hotels don't seem girl friendly at all. Any solution to this problem would be quite welcome? Thanks. I want to get a baller place in Rio like leblon or ipanema (copa if neccessary) that is girl friendly. That's it.
Do the nightclubs require you to have long pants? Is there any kind of dress code or can you wear shorts pretty much anywhere?The locals get pretty dressed up, no shorts.
UniversalX
12-25-22, 18:51
I would love to read more about the way the game is played in Salvador. There are not a lot of detailed reports on Salvador and information is scant. Just need some reports on these places.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?570-Salvador&p=2749306&viewfull=1#post2749306
Hopefully the Salvador tread picks up!
Long time viewer and first post, sorry. I'm looking to stay in Rio for about a month in July or August, and want a place where I can have different girls over all the time. I want something super nice, like a beachfront condo with a nice balcony in Ipanema or a suite in one of the nicest hotels. The issue is that the nicer hotels seem to have tons of security and it would seem either awkward or impossible to have girls over all the time, and I'm looking on Airbnb and lots of the nicer listings say "pre-registered guests only" and lots of stuff like that (even many reviews say no guests etc). My budget is up to $20 k I'd say for accommodation for the month, but I can't seem to find something super high-end where I can have different girls over all the time. Anyone have a solution for this in Rio? Other than that, Rio seems perfect for my mission.I've used this guy many times before, no problem with guests. All these apartments are on Airbnb but I find them a little cheaper here on his website. https://www.mzapartments.com.br/en/. Also my type of mongering is similar to yours, I also like barra vip and bring up freelancers all the time with no problems or very few, sure there will always be issues but none showstoppers.
Pahllus Maximus
12-25-22, 19:27
Places like the Hilton will usually turn a blind eye as long as you are discreet, though I stay away from big hotels with few exceptions. Boutique is the way to go. The places I stayed at were all clustered around Joa, such as the Cliffside lodge in Ponta the Joatinga. There are several great choices up in the hills of Rio away from the trashy beach front that gets boring. I suppose my perspective has changed since I got to know real families and the dinner party route, so I don't flout having girls around like some leering sex addict. Good manners, grooming, smiling and simple but neat clothes go a long way. It's like Asia, don't make people lose face, have some excuse, even a flimsy one, such as you and the girl are teaching each other language, even with a 40 year age gap.
Do not flout money, whether in public or around a girl, be discreet, especially when you know the wealth gap. If you have girls come to you, there are risks of being drugged or robbery or a pretend boyfriend showing up, this happens all over the world as you probably know. Using a high faulting escort agency does not change the calculus that much given the extreme gap in wealth. Keep in mind the girls are hugely vulnerable doing escorts (bashing, rape, robbery) and are full of fear with new clients they conceal . They prefer initial meetings in public, a large hotel or a love hotel where they know there is help around. This is another reason to scout the private houses, to break the ice so as to speak so they know you are OK. Then you get her number, arrange a peronite etc. Like all good things in life, it takes a bit of patience, time and effort, but when you have it, the girls that trust you (and are well treated) become wild things in bed.
My overall advice is to rid yourself of the belief that superficial symbols like private transport or costly ocean rooms or "exclusive" escort agencies can somehow create a bubble for yourself. The "exclusive" escort probably got a text from the agency when she was in a high rise commercial building servicing 5 guys a day and lives in poverty with her family in real life, with quite a few from the favelas. I'd do Rio but get to the coastal cities, sandy feet, salty kisses and happy, relaxed women feeling generous rather than reluctant captives of an agency or retail fuck hutch.
DonMedellin
12-26-22, 00:57
What are the fine prints of 90 days per visit and 180 days per year? If I had two 90 day stays in Brazil in 2022, do I get another two 90 day trips in 2023? I guess I am asking if the term "per year" means per calendar year?
UniversalX
12-26-22, 01:37
What are the fine prints of 90 days per visit and 180 days per year? If I had two 90 day stays in Brazil in 2022, do I get another two 90 day trips in 2023? I guess I am asking if the term "per year" means per calendar year?What specific document or website are your referencing?
Generally, if you do 90 and leave out of country for 30 days then you can come back and do another 90 and so on.
Anyone correct me if I am wrong.
What are the fine prints of 90 days per visit and 180 days per year? If I had two 90 day stays in Brazil in 2022, do I get another two 90 day trips in 2023? I guess I am asking if the term "per year" means per calendar year?The way it was explained to me is its "180 days per year, NOT calendar year. Meaning it does not reset on January 1st to 0". If I remember correctly, if you stay more than 180 days in a year, you are blocked from returning for 1 year.
I've used this guy many times before, no problem with guests. All these apartments are on Airbnb but I find them a little cheaper here on his website. https://www.mzapartments.com.br/en/. Also my type of mongering is similar to yours, I also like barra vip and bring up freelancers all the time with no problems or very few, sure there will always be issues but none showstoppers.Thanks! Places look good!
Does anyone know someone like this in Sao Paulo?
VISA rules. It all depends on your nationality. I. E most europeans tourists can stay for a period not exceeding 90 days. Maximum stay of 90 days every 180 days. (It has nothing to do with calendar years).
https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/assuntos/portal-consular/arquivos/arquivos-qgrv/qgrv-simples-ing-30sep22.pdf
Example: You stay in Brazil 3 months, Dezember-February. Then you can't return before June.
The way it was explained to me is its "180 days per year, NOT calendar year. Meaning it does not reset on January 1st to 0".This is correct. It's 90 days every 180 days. If you are from certain countries, PF can prolong your one stay up to 180 days per (not calendar) year. If you are from EU, that's not possible.
So finally back in Rio. 😈 what's up during new year? Are any places open?
DM if any fellow mongers want to meet up.
CenTexCrash
12-27-22, 17:50
VISA rules. It all depends on your nationality. I. E most europeans tourists can stay for a period not exceeding 90 days. Maximum stay of 90 days every 180 days. (It has nothing to do with calendar years).
https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/assuntos/portal-consular/arquivos/arquivos-qgrv/qgrv-simples-ing-30sep22.pdf
Example: You stay in Brazil 3 months, Dezember-February. Then you can't return before June.Throwing this tidbit in the mix: Also want to check your return details of your home country / next country you plan to visit after Rio. Some places require residents / travelers who have been in City / State of Rio De Janeiro be vaccinated against Yellow Fever. I personally lucked out both Mexico and USA said it was recommended but not required. Have also watched YouTube videos where other flyers were not as lucky and denied boarding.
Quick tip: Make sure you wear a mask when going thru security on your return trip to America. I showed up without one and they made me walk all the way to the end of the airport to purchase a mask from the pharmacy. Then I had to wait in line all over again to place my bag on the xray belt.
Places like the Hilton will usually turn a blind eye as long as you are discreet, though I stay away from big hotels with few exceptions. If we're talking specifically about Hilton, their security is very alert. They will stop you (run after you if needed) and insist on registering your girl (which is not such a bad thing for your own security). After that, however, I could take them anywhere including pools and bars.
CaneCounty
12-28-22, 01:43
Quick tip: Make sure you wear a mask when going thru security on your return trip to America. I showed up without one and they made me walk all the way to the end of the airport to purchase a mask from the pharmacy. Then I had to wait in line all over again to place my bag on the xray belt.Appreciate the info. Mask was also mandatory in the airport in Colombia last week.
Willie Wonkers
12-28-22, 19:54
I've used this guy many times before, no problem with guests. All these apartments are on Airbnb but I find them a little cheaper here on his website. https://www.mzapartments.com.br/en/. Also my type of mongering is similar to yours, I also like barra vip and bring up freelancers all the time with no problems or very few, sure there will always be issues but none showstoppers.The Fairmont is a great option. Gorgeous views and big enough that they don't bother you. Great poolside singers on the weekends!
Thanks but my key question is where can I stay that's super upscale / nice but also completely girl friends (bringing multiple girls into the place each day). I'm no newb at all, not even close. Maybe with rio I am, but I don't visit these places or use public transportation etc. I'd be using like barravip to come to me, SA and on occasion going to scoop one up late night in person -- but always prefer to bring them to my place. So I don't need any advice on that aspect. My only issue is that my research (and I know how to research well), is indicating clearly that the highest end condo rentals and hotels don't seem girl friendly at all. Any solution to this problem would be quite welcome? Thanks. I want to get a baller place in Rio like leblon or ipanema (copa if neccessary) that is girl friendly. That's it.Years ago, a Copa real estate guy showed me a few high-end condos that have their own garage and private elevator. I guess that such places are still available if you are willing to pay enough. They are often penthouses with beach view. You should be able to get girls into these places without a problem. I don't have any addresses though but perhaps it is a lead.
My overall advice is to rid yourself of the belief that superficial symbols like private transport or costly ocean rooms or "exclusive" escort agencies can somehow create a bubble for yourself. The "exclusive" escort probably got a text from the agency when she was in a high rise commercial building servicing 5 guys a day and lives in poverty with her family in real life, with quite a few from the favelas. I'd do Rio but get to the coastal cities, sandy feet, salty kisses and happy, relaxed women feeling generous rather than reluctant captives of an agency or retail fuck hutch.Just an FYI escort agencies aren't really a thing anymore in Rio for many years now. The escort sites being referenced here lately are escort sites of freelancers.
KinkyEngineer
12-29-22, 09:09
Hello to the distinguished Rio forum!
I am hitting the city in about 3 weeks and have read the last 80 or so pages of this thread in preparation.
- what a wealth of information to be found. Cheers for putting in all the hard work guys, especially to members like Vagabundo!
I am a well travelled 30 yo guy standing at 6 ft3 - so probably much younger than the average demographic on here.
To me mongering is the the sole purpose of this trip but rather a nice addition and a chance to fulfill some fantasies.
Up to this point I've been meeting girls naturally all over SA but this time my time is limited to 2. 5 weeks. I also find the idea of picking a girl I want and paying her to spread her legs before me quite exciting.
I am not planning to be meeting 3 girls a day during my trip but it would be ideal if I could fulfill the following fantasies:
1) "The hunt" - I absolutely love the idea of a hunt in Centro often described by Vagabundo. I also like the idea of at least once in my life picking a girl from the street, taking her to a local hotel for a quickie and fucking her for pennies. I was supposed to be travelling with a friend but they bailed on me earlier this week so it would be useful to buddy up and hit the Centro with someone who knows the area. Unfortunately I do not speak Portuguese so it would be great to hang around with someone who does.
In fact it would be ideal to find a wingman for the trip to replace my friend. Ideally someone in my age range.
2) GFE. I normally get this through Tinder / Bumble when on holiday but it takes time. Most normal, educated girls also have normal jobs and tend to be only available on weekends / evenings.
I mostly go for petite, spinner type girls with a nice butts of all colours. Rubi from Eden Spa showed in this thread is 100 % my type.
Coming to Brazil I would love to try some darker girls. I'd be looking for recommendations for specific girls with the right attitude.
3) Swinging. I have some experience with couples / MMF which tends to happen when I am abroad. I really like MMF, cuckold and hotwifing and have some experience with Latino couples.
Aer you aware of any reliable swinging sites in Brazil. There is a handful of people on AFF and wondering if there are better options?
Some generic questions:
/ Planning on staying in Botafogo. Seems like a good mid-point between Copa and Centro. Planning on commuting by metro. Is this the safe option after dark? Any spots to avoid? Are taxis back.
To Botafogo during the night the better option?
/ I've heard the Rio WhatsApp group being mentioned. Any chance I could be added to it?
/ Anyone around my age (30 +- 10 years) in town from the 20th of Jan?
Feel free to message me directly gents with any advice and help with the above. It would be greatly appreciated and I promise a good report at the end of my trip.
Last week, I had a few dates with a 21 yo girl I met at 4 X4. A pretty girl with a bubbly personality. We clicked instantly and we had a great session at 4 X4. She asked me if we could meet outside on a day she was not working. I asked her how much and she said 400 reais. That was almost as much as I paid for her at 4 X4 so I told her to forget about it. I did give her my (Brazilian) phone number though. Two days later, she sent me a whatapp asking me to meet her. She would agree on 300 and I could take my time with her. That was ok for me. As I was in an AirBNB that did not allow guests that were not pre-registered, we first met at one of the Copa beach bars and went from there to a motel in Lapa. We had another great (and longer) session with passionate DFK, BBBJ and CIM. A couple of days later, I had another session with her and one of her friends, a busty blonde. IMHO, a trip to Rio is incomplete without a good dupla and I only regret that I didn't do several of them in the 9 days I stayed there. The girls were totally wild and uninhibited, both kissing and licking each other as well as me. Both rode me in turn and then I took one of them doggy-style while the other tickled my ass and balls. Finally, I deposited a huge load over their faces. They did not lick it off though. Perhaps I should have asked them to do this before we started. As it was, I already felt like a porn star. Total cost: 600 reais for one hour. A bit expensive but I got great quality in return. Wow, I love Rio!
On another day, I had a very nice session with a girl from photoaccompanhantes, who received in Copa. Her name is Gaby. I know that it is a risk to date a photoaccompanhantes girl as the photos are often photoshopped or old or from another girl. However, I was lucky as this girl looked exactly like her photos. She is very cute and has a great body. I could entirely believe that she is 19 yo, as was mentioned in her ad. She received at home (or at the home of a friend). There were clothes and other personal items all about the place. I could take a shower and afterwards we had a very nice session including DFK and BBBJ. Totally GFE but with moderate passion. A very sweet young girl. Although advertised she did not accept CIM. When I left, her morena "dupla" girlfriend just entered the apartment. She was beautiful and flashed a very inviting smile, making me wish I had done them both. Later on, I could not reach her anymore, unfortunately. She does not receive every day. Total cost: 230 reais for one hour.
I also had a few more sessions with Centro Prive girls but I was not very lucky there. It really is a hit or miss in these places. At Bel Prazer, Rio Branco 185, I got a girl (I believe her name is Adrielly) who was friendly enough but her service was quite hurried and mechanical. She did do BBBJ and DFK (although the kisses were without passion). Total cost: 150 reais for one hour.
I visited several other prives in this building as well as in 13 de Maio, 33 but the quality was less than I remembered from earlier Rio trips. Or perhaps I got more picky?
One Eyed Man
12-30-22, 17:11
VISA rules. It all depends on your nationality. I. E most europeans tourists can stay for a period not exceeding 90 days. Maximum stay of 90 days every 180 days. (It has nothing to do with calendar years).
https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/assuntos/portal-consular/arquivos/arquivos-qgrv/qgrv-simples-ing-30sep22.pdf
Example: You stay in Brazil 3 months, Dezember-February. Then you can't return before June.The rule used to be: up to 90 days at one time, no more than 180 days in a 12-month period. This was the case for the prior paper visas in your passport--not sure about the new visas on arrival. I couldn't confirm this via the enclosed link or the official sites I looked at.
Hello to the distinguished Rio forum!
I am hitting the city in about 3 weeks and have read the last 80 or so pages of this thread in preparation.
- what a wealth of information to be found. Cheers for putting in all the hard work guys, especially to members like Vagabundo!
I am a well travelled 30 yo guy standing at 6 ft3 - so probably much younger than the average demographic on here.
To me mongering is the the sole purpose of this trip but rather a nice addition and a chance to fulfill some fantasies.
Up to this point I've been meeting girls naturally all over SA but this time my time is limited to 2. 5 weeks. I also find the idea of picking a girl I want and paying her to spread her legs before me quite exciting.
I am not planning to be meeting 3 girls a day during my trip but it would be ideal if I could fulfill the following fantasies:
1. I think Vagabundo can help you fulfill most of your fantasies, but you must find a way to pay Jackson for PM privileges.
2. Botafogo is a great area to stay, but the beach is unswimmable. You'll have to travel to Leme (very close) for the beach.
3. Metro is great. Cabs and Uber are fine, cheap and all over the place. Definitely avoid walking late at night, even short distances.
4. You haven't said if it's your first time in Rio, so be careful. No jewelry, expensive-looking watches, nothing like that. Avoid using your phone on the streets and be always aware of your surroundings.
5. Your age makes me suggest visiting jazz night clubs in Lapa. I'm twice as old as you are, but still enjoy an occasional visit, although not for girls. Lapa is a great night-time spot in Rio, but again, be careful. Try to go with friends.
6. There are beautiful resort towns around Rio, Buzios to the north and Angra dos Reis to the south. Consider spending 2-3 days there with a girl of your dream.
Hello to the distinguished Rio forum!
I am hitting the city in about 3 weeks and have read the last 80 or so pages of this thread in preparation.Forgot to mention. Take your girl or two to one of those swanky love motel suites with a private pool and Jacuzzi. Unforgettable experience!
I am coming to Rio in 3 weeks. The first time in 20 years. I have an Airbnb in Barra the Tijuca overlooking the beach a couple of blocks from Perola Negra. The person renting the Airbnb is not a super host. She has 5 good reviews on her listing. I am staying there for 3 nights. I'm wondering if this is a good place to stay for someone who is on the plus side of 60? Things have changed since the last time I was in Rio and I'm looking forward to exploring the area.
Vagabundo1
12-31-22, 18:13
The week in baseball.
So it is Saturday. I fucked my girl, and then took the jizz as she wants me to cum outside her pussy, and tossed it off the balcony, with profound sadness at all the little vagabundos who would not come after me to claim their free education in the University of Switzerland, due to my being a lieutenant commander in the Swiss Navy, honorably retired after receiving fire from a Italian mafia gang way back in 1994, that's all I remember, except the part about tossing my jizz to land like prayers from the heavens upon the naked rocks of the pavement below.
So, yes PM me, one and all to be added to the local whatsapp group. I run the group like Elon Musk runs Twittter, with an open mind and a willingness to help any man come to Rio and fuck our finest hoars, whom I am glad to offer to the world in the interest of world peace in these troubled times. We plan to upload videos of old, ugly, white men and 18 year old Brazilian women to the world via Starlink, using money from FTX which we received in a grant from the Government of Bahamas in a swap for some of our finest instagram models.
PM Senor Nounce, PM Senor JimmyBoy99 too. Alas the best terma in Rio is Perola Negra. Same girls as 4 x4, like Penelope. We Veterans of the Swiss Navy should start a joint Veterans of Foreign Hoars at Perola Negra, and at 4 x4, and at Monte Carlo, under the new management of DJ Vagabundo, Lieutenant Commander, Swiss Navy, his royal highness, the future King of the Peoples Republic of Brazil and Macau.
Semper Ad Majorem Dei Vagabundo!
1. I think Vagabundo can help you fulfill most of your fantasies, but you must find a way to pay Jackson for PM privileges.
2. Botafogo is a great area to stay, but the beach is unswimmable. You'll have to travel to Leme (very close) for the beach.
3. Metro is great. Cabs and Uber are fine, cheap and all over the place. Definitely avoid walking late at night, even short distances.
4. You haven't said if it's your first time in Rio, so be careful. No jewelry, expensive-looking watches, nothing like that. Avoid using your phone on the streets and be always aware of your surroundings.
5. Your age makes me suggest visiting jazz night clubs in Lapa. I'm twice as old as you are, but still enjoy an occasional visit, although not for girls. Lapa is a great night-time spot in Rio, but again, be careful. Try to go with friends..
T Alas the best terma in Rio is Perola Negra. Same girls as 4 x4, like Penelope. Thanks for the info. I have to check out Scandallo first so I have something to compare it to. I know it's difficult but someone has to do it.
Pahllus Maximus
01-01-23, 20:36
May 2023 be a wonderful year. I started it with timing a session to the "stroke" of midnight where I was balls deep in in a hottie. Great way to start the year.
President Lula took over without incident, time for a swim at the each. Anyone bagging Rio with misinformation should look on you tube at the favelas of USA. Here I see happy and healthy families playing soccer on the beach.
Thanks for the info. I have to check out Scandallo first so I have something to compare it to. I know it's difficult but someone has to do it.Comparing Scandello to Perola Negra is like comparing McDonald's to a Michelin star restaurant 🤣.
Axel Heyst
01-02-23, 23:04
Comparing Scandello to Perola Negra is like comparing McDonald's to a Michelin star restaurant 🤣.Yeah, there is no place in RJ that comes close to Scandello's league or even Bomboa (SP's #2 Boate). A fair brothel comparison for Perola Negra would be the Brooklin Club in SP.
And while we're on city vrs. City brothel comparisons: Casuara vs 4 x4 is an interesting matchup. Casarao has more girls and its girls are FL's. So, you can take the girls out of the club. 4 x4 girls work for the house and the girl's price is set by management. Both places are pretty amazing and have relatively similar pricing. I personally think Casarao has more, better looking girls than 4 x4, however.
Another very competitive brothel comparison would be Bahamas Club vs. Solarium. In this case I think the two clubs are pretty evenly matched. Girl quality is similar, the number of girls available is around the same, and prices are somewhat similar too although Bahamas is more expensive, and the decor is more upscale. But Bahamas girls are FL's and you can take them out of the club for the same fee as going upstairs. Solarium girls work for the club and prices are set by management. I like both places, but when I am in RJ I tend go to Solarium more often than I go to Bahamas Club when I am in SP because SP has bordello nightclubs like Scandalo & Bomboa and RJ just does not. Game, set, match!
Yeah, there is no place in RJ that comes close to Scandello's league or even Bomboa (SP's #2 Boate). A fair brothel comparison for Perola Negra would be the Brooklin Club in SP.
And while we're on city vrs. City brothel comparisons: Casuara vs 4 x4 is an interesting matchup. Casarao has more girls and its girls are FL's. So, you can take the girls out of the club. 4 x4 girls work for the house and the girl's price is set by management. Both places are pretty amazing and have relatively similar pricing. I personally think Casarao has more, better looking girls than 4 x4, however.
Another very competitive brothel comparison would be Bahamas Club vs. Solarium. In this case I think the two clubs are pretty evenly matched. Girl quality is similar, the number of girls available is around the same, and prices are somewhat similar too although Bahamas is more expensive, and the decor is more upscale. But Bahamas girls are FL's and you can take them out of the club for the same fee as going upstairs. Solarium girls work for the club and prices are set by management. I like both places, but when I am in RJ I tend go to Solarium more often than I go to Bahamas Club when I am in SP because SP has bordello nightclubs like Scandalo & Bomboa and RJ just does not. Game, set, match!I would compare SP's Casarao to Rio's Dolce Vita.
Both are made up of FL.
Both entry is 50 BRL.
Both don't get packed til after midnight.
Both have a low take out fee of 100 brl more or less.
Casarao has rooms available to use is the only thing I can think of that separates them.
Casarao also has more girls but that's more of a population thing.
I've never been to Bahamas because like you said there are more better boates in SP but will check it out and do a report when I go back in a few months.
Solarium is definitely the best boate in Rio. Girls are the best looking and best attitude and has a lot of girls relative to the rio scene.
It's one of the more expensive boates in rio but is worth the value.
I would consider 4 x4,Solarium and DV as the best clubs in rio in that order.
Explorer8939
01-03-23, 11:49
I am traveling with a Thai bargirl and staying in Copacabana. What she wants to do is go to a bar that has garotas available for drinks, maybe something more. Any suggestions where to take her?
Axel Heyst
01-03-23, 16:06
I would compare SP's Casarao to Rio's Dolce Vita. Both are made up of FL.
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Solarium is definitely the best boate in Rio. Girls are the best looking and best attitude and has a lot of girls relative to the rio scene.
It's one of the more expensive boates in rio but is worth the value.
I would consider 4 x4,Solarium and DV as the best clubs in rio in that order.Dolce Vita is at the top of my RJ must check out bar list. The last time I was in RJ in May 2022, I stayed on Copacabana Beach and I was plaining to go to DV, but then I caught the Omicron. Although the disease itself amounted to not much more than the strangest sore throat I ever had in my life and its effect lasted for only 3 days, out of respect for the girls and other civilians, I self-isolated and I kept to myself for friggin' 10 days. What a God damn drag as I did not do anything except bake on Copacabana Beach and watch Netflix the entire time. But once I returned to SP, I extended my trip at no extra cost, thanks to American Airlines, and made up for the lost days with my SP girls and SP Boates.
I totally agree with you about Solarium. Great girls! It is my favorite RJ Terma too. But I do like the vibe and atmosphere over at 4 x 4. 4 x 4 is rawer and lower class. KKK. For example, one Thursday night I went there, the place was packed, and I saw this fat, naked, drunk, girl writhing and rolling around on the liquor-stained bar floor. She grabbed her customer's hand and pulled his head towards her pussy and he, with his friends urging him on, reluctantly went along for the ride. Ha Ha. He was just an American Black guy, having a real good time at 4 x4 with his buddies. His friends were real friendly too. I was sitting at the table next to them. It was their last night in town, and everybody was having a great time. It was a wild scene! I eventually found a slender half Turkish / Brazilian girl and she showed me a good time.
Perhaps I'm an old Rio stickler, but I think it's helpful to differentiate boates and termas. While the distinctions can be subtle, the former is more of a night club and the latter is more of a brothel. It gets confusing because some boates have hourly rooms available on or next to the premises.
I guess the biggest difference other than the overall vibe is that at a termas you are basically paying a fixed price set by the termas management. Of course, you can work out a deal to meet a termas girl later, but that's not the primary purpose of a termas per se. (By the way, I still think it's best to discreetly get a termas girl's number and work out an off-site rendezvous.) Termas can also have some amenities like a sauna and real masseuses that usually aren't that great.
The boates are more like nightclubs where girls and boys go to meet. And yeah, the girls just happen to be working girls and everyone including management expects you to negotiate a deal. They don't care if you take the girl home as long as they get their beak wet.
You could also make this more confusing by adding clinicas and prives which are generally small fixed price establishments frequented in the day.
I am traveling with a Thai bargirl and staying in Copacabana. What she wants to do is go to a bar that has garotas available for drinks, maybe something more. Any suggestions where to take her?There are several swing clubs in the Rio area. Just do a little google search, the one in Barra (Asha), is very good so is the one in Botafogo called 2 a2.
Explorer8939
01-03-23, 22:32
There are several swing clubs in the Rio area. Just do a little google search, the one in Barra (Asha), is very good so is the one in Botafogo called 2 a2.The Thai lady is more interested in going to a regular bar where customers buy drinks for ladies. Not so much interested in going to the room with a lady.
Maybe a strip club in Copacabana.
Explorer8939
01-04-23, 11:42
The Casablanca bar is not far, I will give it a try. Anyone ever go there?
Comparing Scandello to Perola Negra is like comparing McDonald's to a Michelin star restaurant 🤣.I'm already aware of that. The last time I was in Brazil was 20 years ago. At that time my favorite termas was Centaurus. I went into this big room full of women after changing into the robe and flip-flops. I sat next to a gorgeous blonde and started kissing and fondling her right away. We ended up going to a room about 20 minutes after and had amazing sex. The other places I went include Help disco where I met a girl who stayed with me every night and even went to the airport to see me off when I left, Barbarella boite (where I met two girls and had my first threesome), And 4 X4 where I had okay hookup with a girl but it wasn't anything to write home about. I only had a week in Rio but had a great time.
I also used this forum to get information back then. I am looking forward to trying new things in Sao Paulo, Rio, and Foz do Iguacu this time around. Perola Negra looks like a small club. I don't have any high hopes for the action there but you never know.
The Thai lady is more interested in going to a regular bar where customers buy drinks for ladies. Not so much interested in going to the room with a lady.
Maybe a strip club in Copacabana.Strip clubs or even Thai-style go-go bars are not really a thing in Brazil.
Your best bet is to go to Dolce Vita in Copacabana late at night to drink. It's not clear what your end game is, but I'm sure you will find open-minded women. You can buy the ladies drinks and see where it goes.
You might want to clarify things more since strip clubs aren't really regular bars. If you want something more hardcore, you can always go to a termas like 4 x4 or Solarium. You can also buy the girls drinks there and figure things out.
Steve 9696
01-04-23, 22:17
I have a week in São Paulo on business. And a week in Mexico city on business. And the weekend intervening I can go ANYWHERE in south / central America. A few parameters:
I love the club scene when traveling. I have a girl at home so dinners and GFE are standard. So I like to get out and party on the road. So like Scandallo and Casarao etc will def be done. But I can do that during the workweek.
I've been to Medellin and found it only OK for what I was after. Did Facebook girls at my condo. Was def fun but missed the club scene and didn't like the plastics at La Isla.
Absolutely got to have BBBJ. $$ not a problem.
Want to balance of nice place to hang out, maybe beachfront, with club / girl options but not the only thing. Rio? Costa Rica? Panamá? The options are wide open. What would you guys do given the above parameters?
I have a week in So Paulo on business. And a week in Mexico city on business. And the weekend intervening I can go ANYWHERE in south / central America. A few parameters:
I love the club scene when traveling. I have a girl at home so dinners and GFE are standard. So I like to get out and party on the road. So like Scandallo and Casarao etc will def be done. But I can do that during the workweek.
I've been to Medellin and found it only OK for what I was after. Did Facebook girls at my condo. Was def fun but missed the club scene and didn't like the plastics at La Isla.
Absolutely got to have BBBJ. $$ not a problem.
Want to balance of nice place to hang out, maybe beachfront, with club / girl options but not the only thing. Rio? Costa Rica? Panam? The options are wide open. What would you guys do given the above parameters?Have you ever been to Costa Rica? If you're looking to try something different maybe you can give that a go. It's not like Sampa which is not like Rio which is not like Medellin which is not like Mexico City. In other words, it's its own thing with its own kind of "vibe". In San Jose you got the Hotel del Rey, the Sportsmens Lodge, and Hotel Taormina. And in Jaco there's the Cocal. These are "party hotels" with bars patronized by "ladies of the night". Pre-pandemic they were full of Colombianas, but I understand that the Colombianas have yet to return at their former numbers. So you would most likely be pulling lots of Ticas (Costa Rican girls), which is not a bad thing. I bet a lot of those Ticas are thrilled the "Culombianas" (as one Costa Rica Tica put it to me) are gone LOL! If I was going to do a stop off between North and South, then Costa Rica would be my choice. Panama also has a very active and robust scene and is a more modern country, but between the two I always preferred the action and the "vibe" to be found in Costa Rica versus that in Panama (you could do worse). Hope you make a good choice for you. And write up a good report too hehe!
I have a week in So Paulo on business. And a week in Mexico city on business. And the weekend intervening I can go ANYWHERE in south / central America. A few parameters:
I love the club scene when traveling. I have a girl at home so dinners and GFE are standard. So I like to get out and party on the road. So like Scandallo and Casarao etc will def be done. But I can do that during the workweek.
I've been to Medellin and found it only OK for what I was after. Did Facebook girls at my condo. Was def fun but missed the club scene and didn't like the plastics at La Isla.
Absolutely got to have BBBJ. $$ not a problem.
Want to balance of nice place to hang out, maybe beachfront, with club / girl options but not the only thing. Rio? Costa Rica? Panam? The options are wide open. What would you guys do given the above parameters?Steve, I've been to Costa Rica and Panama and in my opinion Rio is far better for mongering and much more fun overall. I don't remember if you been to Rio. It's a beautiful, beautiful cosmopolitan beach city. It's like God dropped San Francisco on Hawaii and sprinkled with Miami's Latinas.
Knowing you a bit, I don't think Rio's mongering club scene will meet your expectations unless you meet a working girl or a Seeking / Facebook girl who you can take to civilian clubs. You might like the civilian nightlife scene in the Lapa neighborhood. Since you seem to have some game and banter, you should try your hand flirting with store clerks and beach bunnies. If you invite a girl to a nice club or restaurant, you will likely warm them up more than if you lechered them up with an offer to go back to your place for a quick bang.
Having said that, I don't know how you feel about the hardcore brothels (as opposed to boates). You can always hit the termas. You can also invite a nice termas girl for an evening out. Some of them appreciate being on a date before jumping into bed.
Enjoy!
Steve, I've been to Costa Rica and Panama and in my opinion Rio is far better for mongering and much more fun overall. I don't remember if you been to Rio. It's a beautiful, beautiful cosmopolitan beach city.I agree 100%. In fact, after I started going to Brazil, I never returned to Costa Rica again LOL! My suggestion was just based on if he wanted to try something new by doing a stop in Central America. If that's the case, then Costa Rica would be my pick. Otherwise, I would choose Rio over San Jose every single time (and have ever since I discovered Brazil). Why, I would even choose Germany and its FKK scene over Costa Rica. But in Central America? Costa Rica rules (and you could do much worse)! I don't know why in the world Steve hasn't gone to Rio. It's absolutely essential to go there if you're going to "hobby" in Brazil!
And back to our feature presentation.
So after my trip to SP I ventured across the land to the land of the cariocas.
TRAVEL.
You can easily get a 1 HR plane ride from SP to Rio as they have a plane leaving every hour using GOL, Latam and Azul.
Now these sons of onions want to charge you 200 up to 500 USD for one tickets or round trip if you book late. You should always book your flight from SP to Rio ahead of time to avoid this. Sometimes the price isn't too bad but if you book ahead of time they usually can be had for around $40 USD.
Since I wasn't sure if I was going to stay more time in SP I opted to get a leito cama bus from SP to Rio which is a 6 hour bus ride. So the thing about the leito cama is that it is a fully reclinable seat that is pretty much the ultimate lazy boy. You hardly feel any bumps on the road and they stop half way at a buffet place where you pay for the weight of the food.
The bad thing about going this route is you HAVE to go to the bus station terminal and buy the ticket directly from the booth because they will not accept foreign credit card, debit or my virgin asshole. This is a real pain for somethings in Brazil. Major institutions don't have the option for foreign transactions so you have to physically go down and do things like this. Luckily there was a deal for the leito cama bus I took for 160 brl. Usually it's about 250 brl. They leave 9 am, noon, 3 pm, 6 pm and mightnight although leito cama rides are only certain times. I would not do the regular bus ride with the regular seats since it's a pretty long trip and the fare is already cheap enough.
GIG is the international airport in Rio so you'll end up here if you fly in or fly out to your country.
SDU is the domestic airport that will take you to and from SP and is closer to the city.
AIRBNB / LOVE HOTEL.
I ended up staying in an Airbnb for my entire stay in rio. I had a nice big room with a washing machine, kitchen and doorman. It was located across the street from monte carlo boate so prime location. Hotels in rio seem to be really small compared to SP and the styling is very dated. I met a member in rio and he stayed at one of the budget hotels in copa and it was tiny room and he was only paying 8 USD less than me. Another member was staying at one of the higher end hotel in copa and it was smaller again than my airbnb. Unless you really need a maid to clean your room everyday, hotel rooms aren't really the best value unless you go to barra where it's decently priced. The one thing I noticed is that all the apartments in rio, the doors lock from the inside. So yea there usually arent any safes in these airbnbs but a girl isn't exactly going to able to steal your stuff without you letting them out first. It does feel a bit weird locking the door when the girl enters, I feel like a straight jeffery dahmer ready to eat some morena coochie.
I would find a place in copa near posto 2 since it's close to Casablanca and dolce vita which I believe are the best little boates in rio where you are suppose to take the girl back to your place. You'll also have access to the beaches and a good amount of bars and restaurants.
There are tons of love motels in copa to pick from as well.
You have lido which is very basic but is down the street from Casablanca or DV.
Hotel vanity is pretty decent.
The best so far is panda hotel but it's a bit far out so a uber ride is needed. Not too far out but you can't just walk there.
There are a ton in copa so if you have reservations of taking a girl to your place just go to one of many love motels in rio.
BEACHES.
If it's your first time I would say check out the beaches whenever you can and soak up the sun.
Copa is tourist hell as you constantly get bugged every 10 steps on the beach.
Ipanema is better but still have guys bugging you.
Barra has the best beaches where the only people who bother you are the beach chair people so not so bad. They also have nice beach club restaurants where in copa / ipa they just have little finger food booths.
You can pick up girls in copa but the thing is that some of the girls here are also tourists from other parts of Brazil who are here for the weekend or a quick trip. A buddy chatted up a pretty hot girl from minas and they ended up texting back and forth but she had to leave the next day so he couldn't do anything. She was a civilian as well.
Barra seems to be more locals and I went with 2 other members and we ended up talking to 3 models who were smoking hot. They were with a few guys so no numbers after but definitely a place for hot young locals.
Barra is also safer for your items. I got some chairs on the beach and chatted with the boys and we left to go search for some new gash and we came back to our stuff fully intact. The beach chair guys actually look out for your things.
There was another guy I met that went to ipanema beach for a quick swim and when he came back shore after 5 mins everything but his stupidity was stolen.
GIRLS, GIRLS, GIRLS.
(I don't remember the pricing so well so don't at me, its been a minute since I've left).
-4 X4-.
Still one of the best termas in rio.
Cheap entry less than 100 brl.
Rooms are cheap too like 150 brl.
Girls are like 250 brl.
I don't remember all the pricing but all in it's less than 100 USD.
Its best to arrive at 5 pm when it's packed.
I went here every other day while here.
I actually ended coming here on my last day in rio and spent my last hours here before my plane departure.
I had my luggage in the locker room and the lady who gives you your robe and sandals looked after it.
If you come here more than two times the lady in the front remembers you and it becomes an olive garden where "when you're here, you're family".
It's the best value place out of all the major places in rio but the only thing is that after your third visit you end up seeing the same girls over and over again. You start to get bored of the usual line up.
The other thing is that sometimes guys will have a private booth booked and hog all the good girls so that can really make or break your trip there.
This place also has one of the best and most fleshed out menu with drinks and actual food.
Overall still top 3 places in rio.
-SOLARIUM-.
I believe this is the most upscaled place out of all the termas in rio. Not comparable to anything in SP but for rio it's the best you can get.
The girls here are so much nicer, friendly and hotter than any place I've been to thru out all 5 times I've been to rio. The quality is great and you can literally sit and chat with a girl and not be pressured to take them up. I had a buddy talk to a girl for over 2 hours and he ended up taking her but at no point was she trying to get him to go with her or looked annoyed.
The rooms are also pretty clean although pretty cramped. Unlike 4 x4 where you can get a much bigger room, solarium doesn't have that option that I'm aware of. When it's really busy you can also be waiting for a room which sucks but happens in 4 x4 as well.
Every last Monday (or maybe Tuesday I forget LOL) of the month is a big event at solarium. All the girls who work at solarium comes in and the room is filled from wall to wall with the best they have to offer. I think the sushi is extra rsw on this day as well because it smells a little fishy. The entry fee becomes all consumable. In total your spending like 600 brl for entry, one hour with the room. It's a bit pricey compared to other options but honestly I'm usually never disappointed with the line up.
Top 3 for sure.
-MONTE CARLO-.
I ended up only coming here once during my stay and should have went a few more times.
It's one of the lesser visited termas in copa but it's there.
I've been here before during my other trips and it's usually a hit or miss.
Sometimes it's slow and sometimes its got some decent amount of girls.
When I went it had like 8 girls and 3 of them were my type.
I ended up seeing a girl I met during my first trip in rio.
She's a pale blonde carioca with grey eyes so she sticks out LOL if you go to monte carlo you'll know her once you see her.
She's actually pretty popular on seeking and meu patrinho and she's always flying out to europe and all around Brazil and staying at some of the bigger hotels in rio like the copacabana palace.
She remembered me and we went upstairs and had a good time. I ended up asking her questions about where to eat and stuff like that and she was happy to be a tourist advisory LOL.
The rooms are similar to solarium, nice but a bit cramped. I think they have a bigger suite option available tho.
It's worth a look but get there at 5 pm so it's got a good amount of girls. Any later and it will just be you alone with 3 girls. Never seen it fully packed with guys and / or girls.
It's like 500 brl for everything so kinda of a gamble but could pay off.
-CENTARAUS-.
Idk if I spelled it right but I don't even care to check that's how little I care about this place.
This is the definition of a tourist trap.
Its like 660 brl for one hour, room and entry and that's a lot in rio.
The amount of girls here is usually 15 or so but these girls attitudes make them horrid.
Its like the opposite of solarium. I've been here 3 times during my 5 trips and every single time I was immediately assaulted walking in. Unless you're a high roller you're treated with very little respect. I don't understand how this place is still in business. The rooms aren't even the best. Its bigger than solarium and monte carlo granted but the bed and room are very old looking.
I met one great girl here during my first trip but she stopped working here because even she said it's a real nightmare working there as the girls can be very aggressive and competitive.
The entrance is also not very subtle and is located next to a cafe which is usually busy so you get some side eye going in and out.
I would avoid this place and not waste your money and precious time.
-Dolce Vita-.
This place is one of my new favorite places in rio.
Its the casarao of rio.
It opens around 11 pm and gets busy at midnight.
Alot of americans here so it's very much a US nightclub vibe.
50 brl to enter.
There is a good mix of pros and non pros.
Take out fee I believe was 100 brl.
I met some really great girls here.
I took two pros to the panda love motel for 400 each and they were great but were very much watching the clock which is unfortunate but happens with pros.
Then I took a non pro and at first she said she would go out for 1500 brl and I said 500 and she took that. Her body was an hourglass figure and just crazy. She had a tongue piercing and that really sent me over the edge. Every single lick was pure bliss. Toe curling kind of feel. She got a kick out of that and I would just have her do that for 30 mins and she indulged me. We ended up fucking so hard that the downstair neighbor would tap our floor to quiet us down. I ended up seeing her two more times and she was great again! She knew how to ride and she liked to be manhandled. I was almost tempted to cum in this carioca but unlike a certain swiss navyman this american stud's seamen is worth it's weight in gold and I can't dilute my market value. It simply can't be done.
So I just ended up constructing a kiddie pool on her stomach every sinlge time.
She definitely did not watch the clock and we went at it until we tired ourselves out.
DV is the new place to be for a last ditch hail mary if all else fails.
-Casablanca-.
This place is around the block from DV and is also a good place to look at.
It's 100 BRL to enter but you get two drinks with that.
I only went once but when I did it was packed with 30 girls so the most out of any place other than DV somedays.
It's not a really big space so girls are packed there tight. You can hardly sit sometimes. Girls are constantly looking at you and want to strike up a conversation.
I was the one of 3 guys there so ratio is good. Girls are mostly 5's some 7's and 8's. It's got numbers is it's strongest points. Girls from DV will come here too so you might end up seeing the same girl if you already checked out DV. Take out fee for a girl is 100 BRL.
Girls will usually go out for 500 brl.
Its good to check out and you might get lucky.
Definitely don't use the room in the back.
I didn't session at any prives.
I went to a few with another member but I wasnt impressed.
Getting to these places in centro was also a trip.
You have to sign in and get a elevator pass.
Then go up and do this all over again for the others.
Its just a lot of walking around the girls here were 3's -5's.
Yea it's cheap like 150 brl but this stallion is looking for the quality, not quantity.
I heard there are some good prives in copa but again it's a journey getting up and they are not easy to find.
If you want to do the prive scene is would suggest sitting down and making a plan to map out your visit.
SEEKING / MEU PATRINHO.
I tried to use seeking and meu patrinho but didn't really get any results becuase I did so 2 weeks before coming.
Besides that most of these girls are non pros so they can be very flakey.
Some even write they are not SPs so don't even bother.
In rio it seemed to be mostly 30's to 40's.
I ended up meeting this 24 yr dance instructor.
We had lunch, going to the mall to get a dessert and then went to vidigal which was a bit tough as many uber drivers simply would not go. Took a while to get there. Had a good time and we ended up taking the motorcycles that takes you up and down the hill back to our place which was fun and beats the long time it takes to get an uber driver to pick you up plus the traffic at night.
Nothing happened afterwards as she had to leave for a work thing and the next day she had to cancel so no luck for me here. I admit I didn't come prepared but I really don't get the appeal of the SA scene. It's a lot of work and you're spending as much or more for a medicore fuck at best. RJ just doesn't seem to have the best scene here or at least for guys who aren't going to take these girls on a yacht ride and shower them with gifts.
I met another college girl but she was like 1. 5 hours away so after the first contact I dropped her. She was ok at best. It was very awkward at first and only got slightly better towards the end. Idk the scene here just isn't the best.
ONLINE GIRLS.
I only saw one online girl from barrasVIP as I really didn't see any girl I liked that much to part with my reais.
The one girl I did see was new to the game and she was a real peach.
Cute and wide eyed. Some guy gave her Romanian lei as payment and she took it so she was just starting out. I think I was her second guy which was funny.
Online girls here are pretty good but they do tend to charge like 600 and over for 1 hour.
Alot of them are in barra so it's a drive and some wait time for you.
Can't report much here but it's always an option.
BRINGING A SP GIRL.
So this is the 3rd time I took a SP girl to Rio.
I actually get a real kick from it, I really do.
I guess it makes me feel like a catcher in the rye. The reason most of these girls do this type of work is because they really need the money to help their families or just survive. I just like showing some of these girls that the world isn't that bad and filled with decent folks. I go for GND type of girls so they are always appreciative and it's a good time for both.
Like I mentioned in my SP report I brought a girl over that I met in casarao to rio for 3 days. At first I was skeptical because she was the most leveled headed brazilian girl I met so something must be wrong with here LOL.
She had never been to rio so we did the usual redeemer, sugar loaf and a sailboat ride around gloria. She was really sweet and acted as a wing woman for one of my bud when we were walking on the beach. I got really bored of the Rio termas scene as I've been here 5 times so kinda saw all the girls already so she was a nice getaway from that.
I did ask her if she wanted to go to one of the swing clubs like asha but she said it wasn't her thing and she wouldn't really enjoy it but she didn't care if I went and she would stay in the bar area. She was really sweet about it but I felt if I did go for it, it would kill her. It really would. That's what I get for going for GND girls.
It was still a good time with BBFS without hesitation and just a real GFE experience. Taking a SP girl to Rio is the real ultimate GFE cheat code.
SAFETY.
Rio isn't really that much dangerous than any other big tourist city.
You just can't be a dumbass with a foot up your ass.
You need to understand your surroundings and always keep your eyes open.
You can be robbed in any city in any country.
Safety is a window that will get shattered one day and make you realize it's only an illusion and just a concept.
A non brazilian is easy to spot. I'm not a "gringo" but that being said I am a gringo, so even though I don't stick out that much I still do. I can easily spot non brazilian latinos so it's really not that hard.
You can speak in english in rio, there's tons of tourists and americans here, its not a problem.
But if you talk about money or things of value out loud that easily is translated and understood universally as please rob me because I'm an idiot.
Don't have your phone out and glued on it.
Don't flaunt your gold chain or money.
Wear regular clothing and just keep your wits about you and think fast.
Robbers are cowards and they prey on the slow witted and unaware. If you sense or see anything fishy make a move and let your presence be known. They don't want to fight a fully aware person because then their edge is gone.
Centro, ipanema and copa are just big tourist traps and so entails a bunch of leftover scum to fester so just keep your eye out.
Barra on the other hand is definitely the more safer area than the rest.
EXAMPLE.
I was walking late at night from Casablanca to my airbnb which was only 6 blocks away around 1 am in copa. I've done this before many times but this time it was pretty dead more than usual. I walked maybe 4 blocks and then I saw two guys coming up behind me and one guy in front walking towards me. I casually walked across the road to the sidewalk on the beach and sure enough these guys were making their move and trying to slowly get me surrounded. So I walk back towards the sidewalk I came from and they follow suit and one said something. It was probably something gay and I, not being of homosexual descent, jogged away from these gay bois and went to the nearest hotel lobby. The guard at the hotel (there is always one in copa hotels) asked me if I was guest and I told him I was not but there were some bad hombres trying to jack me and he actually went out and took a look for me and saw that they were walking around the block still and reassured me that he had my back and got me a taxi. I just had my phone on me and a couple of reais so wouldn't lose much but keeping your head on a swivel and acting fast will do you more good than wearing a football Jersey. Sure I could also not walk at night but I wasnt too far from my place and done this a ton before but if anything just act fast. It's the thinking that gets you in trouble.
Barra on the other hand I had my Iphone out and wore my expensive sunglasses and no one batted an eye. There's a couple of rich arab guys that come here and they stay here and buy bottles at the beach clubs. It's a big difference and crime still exists but it's more guarded.
Rio is a great place to come and indulge in some sun and cariocas but just know it won't match SP and staying here for a long period can lead you to seeing the same line up over and over again and that can get old real quick. I know some guys live here which is different from staying here for 2-5 weeks. I could see it being a good place to live but for a long vacation you pretty see everything after the first week. There's nothing new after that. For the best rio experience without all the annoyances, check out arrial do cabo or buzios for a real get away (not for girls) better waters and less touristy.
Its a real escape and something new for most.
It's definitely a must stop destination but after awhile it can get old. SP is my new favorite city and will be back there in a few months and will skip Rio altogether.
I'll probably wait a year or two til I go back when new actions come to play.
And back to our feature presentation......Now that's what I call a report of distinction. Any newbies come here asking questions about mongering in Rio should be ***** slapped.
Centro, ipanema and copa are just big tourist traps and so entails a bunch of leftover scum to fester so just keep your eye out.
Barra on the other hand is definitely the more safer area than the rest.
EXAMPLE.
I was walking late at night from Casablanca to my airbnb which was only 6 blocks away around 1 am in copa. I've done this before many times but this time it was pretty dead more than usual. I walked maybe 4 blocks and then I saw two guys coming up behind me and one guy in front walking towards me. I casually walked across the road to the sidewalk on the beach and sure enough these guys were making their move and trying to slowly get me surrounded. So I walk back towards the sidewalk I came from and they follow suit and one said something. It was probably something gay and I, not being of homosexual descent, jogged away from these gay bois and went to the nearest hotel lobby. The guard at the hotel (there is always one in copa hotels) asked me if I was guest and I told him I was not but there were some bad hombres trying to jack me and he actually went out and took a look for me and saw that they were walking around the block still and reassured me that he had my back and got me a taxi. I just had my phone on me and a couple of reais so wouldn't lose much but keeping your head on a swivel and acting fast will do you more good than wearing a football Jersey. Sure I could also not walk at night but I wasnt too far from my place and done this a ton before but if anything just act fast. It's the thinking that gets you in trouble.Bearsi, great report. This type of comprehensive report should be a Report of Distinction. We can direct newbies there who pop up here with "hey guys, going to Rio in two days. Where are the best girls?
As far as safety, six Copacabana blocks late at night is enough for me to call an Uber. I have had too many strange guys follow me in Copa and had to react in a similar manner. They know that the clubs that draw tourists and know the walking patterns. I'm also cautious in Ipanema. Forget about leaving the front door of Termas 4 x4 at night and walking in Centro. This is just my opinion.
I agree 100%. In fact, after I started going to Brazil, I never returned to Costa Rica again LOL! My suggestion was just based on if he wanted to try something new by doing a stop in Central America. If that's the case, then Costa Rica would be my pick. Otherwise, I would choose Rio over San Jose every single time (and have ever since I discovered Brazil). Why, I would even choose Germany and its FKK scene over Costa Rica. But in Central America? Costa Rica rules (and you could do much worse)! I don't know why in the world Steve hasn't gone to Rio. It's absolutely essential to go there if you're going to "hobby" in Brazil!I think one can have fun in Costa Rica for sure. It's a beautiful country. I don't think it's cosmopolitan enough for Steve. San Jose is a small city. If one likes a laidback environment to chill with some girls you will find them. Are they as hot as Brasileiras? No. Are there a lot of girls? Not even close as compared to Rio. There is enough though and with Steve's budget I don't think he will balk for paying for the top Costa Rica talent.
I think someone responded to Steve on the San Jose, CR thread. Their description was accurate. You just hang out at some small bars where there are some working girls milling around. Some are very friendly.
I wrote about a Jaco Beach experience. We ran into a group of five fairly attractive girls at a bar. They were not interested. A few hours later I saw them at the disco and I took one of them home to the Cocal for the night. Some of the other girls in the group went with my buddies. So the girls must have mentally separated "girl time" from later "working time". I guess I can respect the separation.
Steve will figure out what he wants this trip and have a good time either way.
I think someone responded to Steve on the San Jose, CR thread. Their description was accurate. You just hang out at some small bars where there are some working girls milling around. Some are very friendly.I happen not to agree 100% with this description of all of Costa Rica, but I temper my remarks by noting that it's been a long time since I have been to Costa Rica, and it was all pre-pandemic. Now take a place like the Del Rey. When I used to go, by 7 pm it would be packed wall-to-wall with at least 200+ or so tutes up in there (lots of 7's and 8's). The music would be loud and people would be eating and drinking and talking and laughing. There was a tiny little casino area and people would be in there blowing some money. And mongers would be striking up deals with Ticas and Colombianas (and maybe a few Nicas, Panamenas, and Salvadorenas too) to get blown LOL! You could walk across "Gringo Gulch" to this little place across the street (forget the name of it) where there was live music and a restaurant. I remember there also was this club called "El Quartel" or something like that with people packed in standing shoulder to shoulder for live music. I went there one time with a blonde head turner from Colombia (doorman told me I was living "la pura vida" hahaha). Now, if you wanted an atmosphere that was more quiet and laid back with tutes "milling about", then that would be the Sportmens Lodge, which is still kicking.
Then there were a few upscale strip clubs with hot girls for takeout (not the American-style bull we know), and I remembered pulling a smoking hot Colombiana (a 10 on my scale) named "Xiomara" from one of those joints to go back to my hotel in Escazu (nicest part of San Jose) for sex (she proposed it LOL). You know she had to be hot as I still remember her name and looks to this very day. She told me I was a "buen polvo" (Colombian Spanish for a "good fuck" hehe). Then too there were the "pensiones" or little casas where you could go and find nice small stables of girls waiting just for you! After the Del Rey closed (its since opened again), a lot of the heavy action moved to Jaco and the Cocal, another "party hotel". And in San Jose the Taormina Hotel eventually filled the void that had been left by the Del Rey in that city. I guess my objection is that your descriptions make the place sound like some sleepy little hamlet or something, and that's definitely not the Costa Rica I knew (again talking pre-pandemic). There were so, so many options, sleepy and on speed! Why, the current population of the San Jose metro area today is about 1. 5 million people. No, that can't compete with Rio in terms of size, but the place is more than large enough and "sex tourist concentrated" enough that you can find some "pace" in Costa Rica if you want to. At least you could pre-pandemic anyway.
The reason why I stopped going to Costa Rica is because I discovered Brazil where the menu suited my sexual appetites so much better. I found Brazilian girls on average to be prettier per my tastes (with lots of them being brancas), sexier, less inhibited (dirtier), and far better in bed skill wise than the average Ticas and Colombianas working in Costa Rica. And when it comes to delivering PSE sex, well I haven't found any country in the world better than Brazil for that, including a penchant for offering anal sex! So if you like taking pretty girls in the ass, then you know Brazil is simply Heaven on this earth LOLOL! Costa Rica (and most places) can't compete. Not even close. Another thing is although it was fairly routine to get BBBJs in Costa Rica, not so much so for CIM. Much, much easier in places like Brazil and Germany for CIM and anal sex. All that said, in my view Costa Rica is still a "permanent monger member nation". Meaning that if you want to call yourself an experienced international monger, then a part of earning your stripes means that you've got to get at least one trip to Costa Rica under your belt.
And back to our feature presentation.
So after my trip to SP I ventured across the land to the land of the cariocas.
TRAVEL.
You can easily get a 1 HR plane ride from SP to Rio as they have a plane leaving every hour using GOL, Latam and Azul.
Now these sons of onions want to charge you 200 up to 500 USD for one tickets or round trip if you book late. You should always book your flight from SP to Rio ahead of time to avoid this. Sometimes the price isn't too bad but if you book ahead of time they usually can be had for around $40 USD.
Since I wasn't sure if I was going to stay more time in SP I opted to get a leito cama bus from SP to Rio which is a 6 hour bus ride. So the thing about the leito cama is that it is a fully reclinable seat that is pretty much the ultimate lazy boy. You hardly feel any bumps on the road and they stop half way at a buffet place where you pay for the weight of the food.Thank you for the great experience, I made sure to write some of your information down for when I go visit Rio and Sao.
Never went but I'm hoping to make it this year as it is one of my next destinations I want to see because after visiting Medellin I fell in love so I can only imagine over there.
And back to our feature presentation.
So after my trip to SP I ventured across the land to the land of the cariocas.
TRAVEL.
You can easily get a 1 HR plane ride from SP to Rio as they have a plane leaving every hour using GOL, Latam and Azul.
Now these sons of onions want to charge you 200 up to 500 USD for one tickets or round trip if you book late. You should always book your flight from SP to Rio ahead of time to avoid this. Sometimes the price isn't too bad but if you book ahead of time they usually can be had for around $40 USD.
Since I wasn't sure if I was going to stay more time in SP I opted to get a leito cama bus from SP to Rio which is a 6 hour bus ride. So the thing about the leito cama is that it is a fully reclinable seat that is pretty much the ultimate lazy boy. You hardly feel any bumps on the road and they stop half way at a buffet place where you pay for the weight of the food....Great report!
The Critic
01-06-23, 07:04
And back to our feature presentation.So after my trip to SP I ventured across the land to the land of the cariocas. Another great report. Lots of details for everyone, especially for the uninitiated (newbies) to Rio.
Safety Note: When leaving 4 x4 late night just call Uber, wait inside until Uber pulls up.
Don't walk from 4 x4 late night alone unless you definitely know what you're doing or in a group.
Steve 9696
01-06-23, 17:21
Ok Rio it is. I was seriously considering Jaco but it's a bit out Of the way for my short weekend jaunt. I've always passed on Rio because I have limited time and SP is well known to be better for girls exclusively. But since I'm looking for a balance, Rio seems ideal.
Thanks for the insights from Bearsi, Wyatt and others. And who knows maybe I will fly up a girl from SP or SA in Rio and just do a GFE weekend. It's all good. Thanks again fellas.
Steve 9696
01-06-23, 19:25
Ok Rio it is. I was seriously considering Jaco but it's a bit out Of the way for my short weekend jaunt. I've always passed on Rio because I have limited time and SP is well known to be better for girls exclusively. But since I'm looking for a balance, Rio seems ideal.
Thanks for the insights from Bearsi, Wyatt and others. And who knows maybe I will fly up a girl from SP or SA in Rio and just do a GFE weekend. It's all good. Thanks again fellas.Looking at termas and boates I am considering 4 x4, Dolce Vita, and Solarium based on Bearsi's feedback. He's explained how they differ. What about Monte Carlo. Seems so convenient. What's wrong with it? Oh and Perola Negra. Thoughts?
Also almost everything seems closed Sunday. Dolce opens at 11 Pm. Any other suggestions?
Looking at termas and boates I am considering 4 x4, Dolce Vita, and Solarium based on Bearsi's feedback. He's explained how they differ. What about Monte Carlo. Seems so convenient. What's wrong with it? Oh and Perola Negra. Thoughts?
Also almost everything seems closed Sunday. Dolce opens at 11 Pm. Any other suggestions?There's nothing wrong with Monte Carlo. It's just smaller with fewer girls. If one is staying nearby in Copacabana, it's work a look. I'm not sure if I would make it a trip to go there. I have enjoyed 4 x 4 and Solarium more. The bar area in 4 x 4 usually has much more energy. However, some guys like to hit as many venues as possible. On a short trip, you should probably focus on a few.
Depending on your schedule, you might want to have made a connection before Sunday comes around. There is also a vibrant escort scene if you are looking for action Sunday afternoon.
Axel Heyst
01-06-23, 20:42
And back to our feature presentation. So after my trip to SP I ventured across the land to the land of the cariocas.
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Beaches.
Copa is tourist hell as you constantly get bugged every 10 steps on the beach.
Ipanema is better but still have guys bugging you.
Barra has the best beaches where the only people who bother you are the beach chair people so not so bad. They also have nice beach club restaurants where in copa / ipa they just have little finger food booths.
Girls, girls, girls:
-4 X 4-. Still one of the best termas in Rio. I went here every other day while here.
Overall still top 3 places in Rio.
-SOLARIUM-. I believe this is the most upscaled place out of all the termas in rio. Not comparable to anything in SP but for rio it's the best you can get.
The girls here are so much nicer, friendly and hotter than any place I've been to thru out all 5 times I've been to rio. .So here are a few thoughts I have had after reading Bearsi's excellent RJ report:
Beaches: I am into natural beaches, so for me there is no stretch of beach in RJ better than the Praia the Reserva, Barra the Tijuca which begins at the Grand Hyatt. But it is not a pick-up beach. Ha Ha.
GIRLS, GIRLS, GIRLS: There are only 2 Termas in RJ that I really like. Solarium & 4 x 4. Bearsi describes them very accurately. I would only differ with him on the best time to visit 4 x 4. I prefer going later at night to catch the party party. On Dolce Vita & Casablanca: I really want to check these 2 joints out. I need more than my 2 favorite termas to justify another side trip to RJ and I believe I have it with these two bars or whatever they are called.
Prives: yeah, quality does matter. It is just my opinion, but SP clinicas are worth doing and I like them & with most RJ Prives not so much. I know some guys like the Prives and go to them a lot. That's fine with me. Do what makes you happy. But I am not a fan.
BarraVips: During the Covid lockdown I focused on this source, and I met a bunch of nice girls. The girls looked like their photos and service was always good, but I prefer going out rather than ordering in. Plain & simple.
Bringing Sand to the Beach: I particularly enjoyed reading this section of Bearsi's report. KKK. I have taken my favorite BKK girl to Phuket and I flew my favorite Yangon girl to BKK. Yeah, it's kinda crazy bringing sand to the beach, but I had a good time, both times, and the girls loved it, so what the fuck although normally it is a better idea to take favorite girls to some place that does not have girls. Like the time I took my 2 favorite Manila girls to Palawan. The 3 of us had a real good time on a beautiful natural beach. Or just this last November I took my favorite Scandallo girl, Valerie, to Maresias. That trip was so nice that I am going to take her to Ilhabela this June. She literally glowed when I asked her to go with me.
Lastly, I totally agree with Bearsi's conclusions: SP is better for girls by far and likewise SP is my new, post covid favorite girly destination which can be proven by the fact that I have still not returned to BKK, Pat, or Jakarta since they reopened and BTW since weed is now semi-legal and readily obtainable in BKK & Pattaya store fronts. I have fallen for Brazilian girls. What can I say? KKK.
As to RJ, it has beaches (urban except for the Barra Praia the Reserva) and the cityscape looks spectacular. RJ also has a decent nightlife, and therefore, it is definitely worth checking out or revisiting from time to time. It is a short flight from SP.
A. H.
I happen not to agree 100% with this description of all of Costa Rica, but I temper my remarks by noting that it's been a long time since I have been to Costa Rica, and it was all pre-pandemic. Now take a place like the Del Rey. When I used to go, by 7 pm it would be packed wall-to-wall with at least 200+ or so tutes up in there (lots of 7's and 8's). The music would be loud and people would be eating and drinking and talking and laughing. There was a tiny little casino area and people would be in there blowing some money. And mongers would be striking up deals with Ticas and Colombianas (and maybe a few Nicas, Panamenas, and Salvadorenas too) to get blown LOL! You could walk across "Gringo Gulch" to this little place across the street (forget the name of it) where there was live music and a restaurant. I remember there also was this club called "El Quartel" or something like that with people packed in standing shoulder to shoulder for live music. I went there one time with a blonde head turner from Colombia (doorman told me I was living "la pura vida" hahaha). Now, if you wanted an atmosphere that was more quiet and laid back with tutes "milling about", then that would be the Sportmens Lodge, which is still kicking.I think we are in general agreement on Costa Rica vs San Jose. I do think Steve could have a blast in CR, but I don't think it would be better than Rio. If he hasn't the time for Jaco, that rules out the beach. We also both find the Rio girls generally hotter than CR girls whether they are from a country near CR or a true Tica.
Steve is also posting on the San Jose board and getting a taste of the vibe. I think some of the members have confirmed the number of girls is down. The Del Rey is a shell of its former self. However I think we all know that if we are sitting across from a hotty that we are about to bed, it doesn't matter where we are at and how many girls are in the building.
Here are some key points between the two cities:
Rio is far more cosmopolitan than San Jose. Steve seems to like nice restaurants, bars and clubs, but again it's a short stopover. So perhaps he will focus on hooking up.
Rio has a beach right out the front door.
Rio girls are hotter, more adventurous and more diverse. If anal is your game, I think it's easier to find in Rio.
San Jose is easy to get to from North America, but Steve's itinerary has him in Sao Paulo.
Yeah San Jose is safer, but if you have navigated Sao Paulo I don't think Rio will intimidate you.
I do enjoy having small casinos and sports books all around in Gringo Gulch. Gringo Gulch is relatively compact. It's mongering central.
Pahllus Maximus
01-06-23, 22:16
Indeed and excellent report. I thought I'd let everyone know about this and my own biological experiment.
https://interestingengineering.com/health/synthetic-tissue-erectile-pigs
We must all bang hookers and have lots of enjoyable sex, cut out smoking, alcohol and get high intensity cardio happening (I'm doing all of that). Your corpus cavernosa and dorsal artery / vein will thank you with spontaneous pleasant hard erections. I have my own theory of regular BJ's with simultaneous testicle fondling and / or ass play by a beautiful young woman with CIM. So far the results of this long running experiment are positive. I have a convenient theory that girls benefit from this with better tooth enamel and other benefits, but sadly I do not do long follow up with the girls. But seems reasonable.
We should not rely on viagra and this type of stuff. May today bring another earth shattering orgasm to you. For a change today I'm seeing a big titted and highly experience MILF who wears a delicate chemise who is extremely skilled in this experiment and swallows, then a nice smile and kiss. It's a sort of housewife fetish, but very relaxing and chill, like an old friend, I've seen her maybe a dozen times and every time she surprises me with something new.
What about Monte Carlo. Seems so convenient. What's wrong with it?Nothing is intrinsically wrong with Monte Carlo. And depending on where you headquarter, it can be very convenient indeed. Another good thing about it is that it's one of the few termas that's open on Saturday. Every first visit to Rio should include a stop by Monte Carlo if you can fit it into your rotation. You might find something you like there. You might not. I did. A lot. Like "Michelle's" plump, round, ruiva bunda!
Pahllus Maximus
01-06-23, 22:52
Bearsi is right about Arrial do Cabo that is in a national park and mostly protected from shitty developers. But add to that the nearby Saquarema and some places dotted along the coast heading east. A couple of hours flight north takes you to Salvadore in Bahia and for the adventurous, Itacare. This part of Brazil has gorgeous beaches, fresh seafood and Salvadore has a scene where you can get lovely young women on the usual sites plus a few discreet and stylish bordellos. Or BYO lady if going on a surfing, fishing or diving adventure. You can body massages on the beach too while you zone out on the sound of the ocean. After that, a nice meal and time for a BJ timed for sunset. Many Brazilians have not seen these places and happy to go, and if you treat them well like normal girl you will get some amazing GFE experiences.
This is the way life should be.
Vagabundo1
01-07-23, 03:03
I've been to scandallo, and Perola, and I would tell you:
The best girls at Perola like Penelope are just as good or better than the girls at Scandallo -- but there is no beach in SP. Further, the best girls at the best prives in RJ are as good as the top SP girls.
I understand, there is more money and higher prices so that attracts the best girls from all over Brazil, so you can argue that SP has better talent, especially if your tastes are not for negras and mulattas.
That said, look at Barravips or Riosexsite.
https://barravipsrio.com/
Correlate those top tier girls with good reviews on gpguia and gparena.
And make your list.
You can only fuck so many girls in a week or however long your trip is. RJ is a megacity of 12 m and SP of 20 m. You can't fuck all the girls on Barravipsrio.com in your trip and say that Rio doesn't have the same talent as Scandallo. I've been to Scandallo, and the girls there are not any better than the top girls at Perola and Solarium and 4 x4 (if you actually live here, you realize they all go back and forth, and now, the best rio girls are going to SP, because they can find bigger suckers -- oh, I mean clients to pay them more in SP).
And for hot young girls of all colors, there is VM, and there you just take them to motel malaga or quintal real if you don't want to do the first fuck at VM.
Anyway, I've blocked all the usual suspects that I go back and forth with, and I don't really care -- the customer is always right, I've learned to say. But Rio is the best city in the world for mongering, IMHO, because of the beach, the waterfalls, the food, the culture, carnival, and the Rio attitude of Libertines. SP is business. And if you need to go to SP, it is a 50 dollar or less bus or plane ride away.
Yeah, there is no place in RJ that comes close to Scandello's league or even Bomboa (SP's #2 Boate). A fair brothel comparison for Perola Negra would be the Brooklin Club in SP.
And while we're on city vrs. City brothel comparisons: Casuara vs 4 x4 is an interesting matchup. Casarao has more girls and its girls are FL's. So, you can take the girls out of the club. 4 x4 girls work for the house and the girl's price is set by management. Both places are pretty amazing and have relatively similar pricing. I personally think Casarao has more, better looking girls than 4 x4, however.
Another very competitive brothel comparison would be Bahamas Club vs. Solarium. In this case I think the two clubs are pretty evenly matched. Girl quality is similar, the number of girls available is around the same, and prices are somewhat similar too although Bahamas is more expensive, and the decor is more upscale. But Bahamas girls are FL's and you can take them out of the club for the same fee as going upstairs. Solarium girls work for the club and prices are set by management. I like both places, but when I am in RJ I tend go to Solarium more often than I go to Bahamas Club when I am in SP because SP has bordello nightclubs like Scandalo & Bomboa and RJ just does not. Game, set, match!
Explorer8939
01-07-23, 05:13
I went with my Thai lady friend to the Casablanca boate. It's expensive, the cheaprst lady drink is a 100 real bottle of champagne. A glass of whiskey with Coke is 500 reals. Entrance is 100 reals, which includes 2 drinks.
The bar opens at 22.00, but things don't get going until midnight. There are infrequent naked pole dances.
There are rooms in the back if you must go with a lady.
And back to our feature presentation.Thanks much!
Vagabundo1
01-07-23, 12:47
Week in baseball, noemie Michelle Obama bilas pernoite, ano novo.
So Vagabundo was a little hungover from ano novo. I took my girl and her friend and we went to copa for new years, last Saturday. We took a uber, with a bag of whiskey (old parr is her fav), red bull, and ice to a drop off point where we walked from posto 6 to copa palace where her other friends met us, and we did a foot patrol through the throng to a spot next to a band and PM station. I sang the Swiss Naval Infantry Anthem 4 times, and my high school and college fight songs during the 15 minutes of fireworks, and screamed and yelled and parties, drank whisky and red bull and smoked ganja. Pretty awesome experience, not unlike a mad minute in a defense against a million screaming Chinese hoards at the choosing resevoir, for those of you who have had that kind of experience. Stayed until dawn, saw the first sunrise of the year on copa beach. You should do this if you haven't. Definitely a check the box event. Then we tried and failed to get a cab for a reasonable fare, they were asking 250 reais to barra. So we took a bus. At barra, we took the dog to the beach, which was awesome. Hot ass girls there, Vagabundo being Vagabundo he chatted up the hot SP girls as soon as his girl was at the beach. So we slept, fucked. Repeat, rinse, repeat. 600 r for 3 or 4 days, and at least as much for whisky and churrasco. And so it goes.
Monday, Vagabundo went to centro and picked up Noemie bilas Michelle Obama and went to a hotel, lips, and did a pernoite which was 140 r for the hotel, and 300 for the girl, all bbfscip, just 2-3 hours of sport fucking with 4 pops.
I've been to scandallo, and Perola, and I would tell you:
The best girls at Perola like Penelope are just as good or better than the girls at Scandallo -- but there is no beach in SP. Further, the best girls at the best prives in RJ are as good as the top SP girls.
I understand, there is more money and higher prices so that attracts the best girls from all over Brazil, so you can argue that SP has better talent, especially if your tastes are not for negras and mulattas.
That said, look at Barravips or Riosexsite.
https://barravipsrio.com/
Correlate those top tier girls with good reviews on gpguia and gparena.
And make your list..
Explorer8939
01-07-23, 12:52
I went with my Thai lady friend to the Casablanca boate. It's expensive, the cheaprst lady drink is a 100 real bottle of champagne. A glass of whiskey with Coke is 500 reals. Entrance is 100 reals, which includes 2 drinks.
The bar opens at 22.00, but things don't get going until midnight. There are infrequent naked pole dances.
There are rooms in the back if you must go with a lady.Oops. Regular drinks are 50 reales, not 500. But beer is available for 25, which is the drink of choice.
And back to our feature presentation.Great report and I truly enjoyed reading it!!
I have to agree with your views of the prives. It never made sense to me to do all that legwork just to bang someone who is a 3 to a 5 . But to each his own. I also feel that Rio gets real boring real quick. I prefer spending my time in SP. The women are hotter and the food is definitely better.
Reading your report is getting me excited for my trip in February.
I found a way to bypass the exit fee when you take a girl out of Dolce Vita. (DV charges either 75 or 100 R to take a girl out of the club with you, I think it's called a "desperta" fee on your bill).
The best way to bypass the fee? Just go up to the desk by yourself when you are paying the bill, don't have the garota standing next to you at the desk. When you get your receipt, go grab your girl and walk out of the club. They are not going to stop you at the bottom and make you go back upstairs to pay the fee. I did this multiple times on my trip last month and never had an issue, in addition, I figured they owed me money from all the times they ripped me off in the past.
Good News: I think someone must have said something to the owner / manager. The blonde woman who normally works the desk wasn't there for there during my entire vacation. They have some young guy working the desk now. I still go over the bill but he hasn't tried to rip me off the way the woman constantly did.
Mr Enternational
01-07-23, 19:30
I found a way to bypass the exit fee when you take a girl out of Dolce Vita. (DV charges either 75 or 100 R to take a girl out of the club with you, I think it's called a "desperta" fee on your bill).
The best way to bypass the fee? Just go up to the desk by yourself when you are paying the bill, don't have the garota standing next to you at the desk. When you get your receipt, go grab your girl and walk out of the club. Why not just tell the girl to meet you outside?
Axel Heyst
01-07-23, 19:54
I've been to scandallo, and Perola, and I would tell you:
The best girls at Perola like Penelope are just as good or better than the girls at Scandallo -- but there is no beach in SP. Further, the best girls at the best prives in RJ are as good as the top SP girls. Hi Vagabundo, I will agree with you that there is some degree of overlap between not only a terma like Perola or my favorite Solarium and Scandallo, but also between an SP Clinica like Prime and Scandallo. For example, I once me a very pretty girl at Prime. She was wonderful. I felt she could easily have found a niche in the girl next door, Tier 2 category at Scandallo. But for some reason she chose to work at Prime where her cut of the 240 BR hourly session rate was around 120 BR vs. What she could have earned roughly 500 to 700 per session at Scandallo. Go figure. Maybe she felt more comfortable at Prime. Maybe she did not think she was good looking enough to make it work at Scandallo. All I know is she was a real find and I liked her a lot.
I understand, there is more money and higher prices so that attracts the best girls from all over Brazil, so you can argue that SP has better talent, especially if your tastes are not for negras and mulattas. I like girls from all ethnic backgrounds. One of the great things about Brazil is the variety of girls to choose from. But that said, I do have my preferences. I prefer slender, sexy, all natural girls with pretty faces and with friendly personalities to match. I do not like big butts or silly cones although if a girl has a really pretty face and her fake tits are reasonable, I will say let's get it on.
That said, look at Barravips or Riosexsite.
https://barravipsrio.com/
Correlate those top tier girls with good reviews on gpguia and gparena.
And make your list. Barravips, ClubModel, and MClass definitely have some top tier girls and I am sure some of these girls have worked at Scandallo or Bomboa. But once a girl achieves a certain level of clients there is little reason for her to show up at the Boate every night. They only come to the club when they feel like it. One of my favorite MClass girls, a really lovely girl, has been in Spain for 6 months. She must be raking in the cash. Another one I met at Scandallo is currently in India. India! She tells me she gets $1000 US / hour from her wealthy Indian gentlemen clients.
You can only fuck so many girls in a week or however long your trip is. RJ is a megacity of 12 m and SP of 20 m. You can't fuck all the girls on Barravipsrio.com in your trip and say that Rio doesn't have the same talent as Scandallo. I think we are talking about 2 different things. While it is absolutely true that many BarraVips RJ girls could easily fit right in and do well at Scandallo, the issue for me is that I prefer to go out to find my girls rather than order in. It is the same story for me in SP, namely that there are some very attractive Tier 1 girls advertising their wares on BarraVips SP, MClass, & ClubModel, but I prefer to go out to find what I am looking for.
But I have noted that in the past you have posted about the number of BarraVip RJ girls that live at Hotel TransAmerica in Barra the Tijuca, so one night I chose to session with a BarraVip RJ girl at her place at TransAmerica. It turned out to be an interesting and productive night. After I said goodbye to my BarraVips girl, I hung around outside the TransAmerica near the bar. There were 4 girls inside and a couple of guys. An attractive blond walked outside the bar to have a smoke. She was wearing very tight-fitting jeans and I liked her look. So, I saw my opening and I approached her to ask to borrow her lighter for my Cohiba club mini cigar. We got to talking and the vibe was light and friendly. Ha Ha. Like you suggested, this is a great way to meet these girls.
I've been to Scandallo, and the girls there are not any better than the top girls at Perola and Solarium and 4 x4 (if you actually live here, you realize they all go back and forth, and now, the best rio girls are going to SP, because they can find bigger suckers -- oh, I mean clients to pay them more in SP). I agree, as I have said, there are some terma girls that could easily do well at Scandallo or Bomboa. They are not be what I consider Tier One model quality girls like a some hot BarraVips girls are, but rather what I call Tier 2 sexy girl next door types. Now don't get wrong, I find these Tier 2 types very attractive. I am just noting a difference in quality that is obvious to me at first glance. BTW, My favorite Scandallo girl is a Tier 2 sexy girl next door type and I just love her.
But my point is that when I am at Solarium, for example, I might like the look of 3 maybe 4 girls on a good night. Meanwhile on any Wednesday thru Friday night at Scandallo, except a national holiday night, I will see a combined total of say 25 to 40 Tier 1 & Tier 2 type girls that I like the look of out of a grand total of say 140 girls available. I can't shag them all, KKK, but having this huge selection of attractive girls to choose from is fantastic, and it means I can easily have a different quality girl or different quality girls (plural) every time I go to this Boate. And that is fucking amazing! How many honky tonks in the world can you do this at?
I realize that we are in different positions. You are a resident ex-pat and can enjoy one of the major benefits of your status which is having a super large file of WhatsApp numbers to choose from on any given night including national holiday nights. I, on the other hand, am a visitor so no matter how long my visits last; 6 weeks to 11 weeks or how many cumulative nights I have spent in Brazil; almost 6 months from April 2021 to November 2022 I remain basically a tourist. Still, I have my favorite repeat girls which include a couple of BarraVips, MClass, and ClubModel girls, but it is mostly composed of Boate girls. My favorite repeat girls take up at least half my nights in SP. They come to me, and I no longer have to contribute to their Boates. But I love variety and I like to get out on the town, so I wind up spending the other half of my travel time hunting for new girls at Scandallo, Bomboa, Casarao, and Bahamas. I love the hunt. You must too, but I don' t know how you managed to stay free and unencumbered considering all the time you have lived in RJ. I think I would have fallen for a local civilian by now if I were you. Ha Ha.
And for hot young girls of all colors, there is VM, and there you just take them to motel malaga or quintal real if you don't want to do the first fuck at VM.
Anyway, I've blocked all the usual suspects that I go back and forth with, and I don't really care -- the customer is always right, I've learned to say. But Rio is the best city in the world for mongering, IMHO, because of the beach, the waterfalls, the food, the culture, carnival, and the Rio attitude of Libertines. SP is business. And if you need to go to SP, it is a 50 dollar or less bus or plane ride away.This is what makes things interesting. It would be a very strange, monolithic world if we all agreed on who has the prettiest faces, the sexiest body types, the best bordellos & clubs, and the best cities to play our game. You prefer RJ. I prefer SP. I also like BKK, Jakarta, Pattaya, Phnom Penh, Macau, Manila, RJ, Yangon, AC, and even Singapore (Geylang, Brix, and Ipanema at the OT). I have not made it to the VM yet, but I will eventually go there to see what you are talking about. KKK.
Rock on,
A. H.
Steve 9696
01-07-23, 20:18
I found a way to bypass the exit fee when you take a girl out of Dolce Vita. (DV charges either 75 or 100 R to take a girl out of the club with you, I think it's called a "desperta" fee on your bill).
The best way to bypass the fee? Just go up to the desk by yourself when you are paying the bill, don't have the garota standing next to you at the desk. When you get your receipt, go grab your girl and walk out of the club. They are not going to stop you at the bottom and make you go back upstairs to pay the fee. I did this multiple times on my trip last month and never had an issue, in addition, I ifigured they owed me money from all the times they ripped me off in the past.
Good News: I think someone must have said something to the owner / manager. The blonde woman who normally works the desk wasnt there for there during my entire vacation. They have some young guy working the desk now. I still go over the bill but he hasnt tried to rip me off the way the woman constantly did.Surely you are only doing this to get back at the club for prior ripoffs? You wouldn't really begrudge them $20 US for taking one of their workers off the market would you? I would think they need those $20 to keep things running at a fairly prime location right?
Mr Enternational
01-07-23, 20:26
Surely you are only doing this to get back at the club for prior ripoffs? You wouldn't really begrudge them $20 US for taking one of their workers off the market would you? I would think they need those $20 to keep things running at a fairly prime location right?Wrong. The girls are not their workers. The girls are freelance and go to the club to pick up tricks. It is just a normal club but they try to charge a guy if he leaves with one of the chicks that are inside looking for customers.
Vagabundo1
01-07-23, 21:25
Layla Darkroom, Emporio -- Saturday special.
Vagabundo and a ISG wingman went to centro today via metro (see below for a transcript of the banter on the zap group). First we hit emporio, where Vagabundo did a 19 year old mulatta, super nice ass, porn star quality bod, but predictably, so so performance, BBBJ (going back and forth with a joint and my dick in her mouth, which the girls appreciate, just make sure the air is running before the session starts). Bending over a girl with an ass this fine is like taking a 18 year old kira noir doggy style, and while fucking her with my (covered unfortunately) bratwurst, I shot a wad into the latex (skyn brand always in Brazil). That's 90 reais, or 18 dollars or less.
Then we had some pasta at spoleto, always recommended. Rua do rosario 135.
Then we went up to darkroom.com.br, where I hit a negra with a super hot bunda, layla. Much better performance from the 26 year old! DFK, nasty hot BBBJ (garganta profunda, chupa meu saco, ie, deep throat, suck my balls). Bent her over and fucked her, while telling her how I wanted to take her to a swing with barbara, a white girl who said she preferred to be submissive in duplas, who I said we would make her escrava (slave) in a show ao vivo (live sex show). Layla has a super nice ass, and is good people and the sex, even in a half hour is good and as hot and nasty as you want to be. My wingman wanted her number, and I got it for him, even though he does not like the cabines at darkroom, which I can understand. You can hear the customer fucking the girl next door loudly. On the plus side as I commented upon below, one could run a business on the wifi at darkroom from the bar, which other prives lack, not to mention from 4 x4, which is better than sitting inside one's room and running a business from either barra or anywhere in the world. If that nasty, pasty FTX crew had a few real brazilian girls to bang not those other nasty pasty nerds in the Bahamas, I am sure they would have done much better in their actual crypto trading and would still be afloat as they would better understand the value of a dollar in relation to the BRL exchange rate.
Layla. Yet another winner at Darkroom. I hate the need to get a stupid card everytime one enters, but I also understand security, so it goes.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=EOs0qeiJyIg
"Layla".
("Crossroads" Version).
See if you can spot this one?
What will you do when you get lonely.
No one waiting by your side?
You've been running, hiding much too long.
You know it's just your foolish pride.
Layla, got me on my knees.
Layla, begging, darling, please Layla.
Darling, won't you ease my worried mind?
Tried to give you consolation.
Your old man had let you down.
Like a fool, I fell in love with you.
You turned my whole world upside down.
Layla, got me on my knees.
Layla, I'm begging, darling, please Layla.
Darling, won't you ease my worried mind?
Make the best of the situation.
Before I finally go insane.
Please don't say we'll never find a way.
Tell me all my love's in vain.
Layla, got me on my knees.
Layla, I'm begging, darling, please Layla.
Darling, won't you ease my worried mind?
(Yeah, yeah).
Layla, got me on my knees.
Layla, begging, darling, please Layla.
Darling, won't you ease my worried mind?
(Yeah, yeah).
Layla, got me on my knees.
Layla, begging, darling, please Layla.
Darling, won't you ease my worried mind?
Layla, got me on my knees.
Layla, begging, darling, please Layla.
Darling, won't you ease my worried mind?
Thank you.
8:51 AM, 1/7/2023 Professor Jose: who wants to do centro prives, 90 r for 30 minute specials today?
8:53 AM, 1/7/2023 : wtf is that green stuff on the beach.
8:54 AM, 1/7/2023 first time in Rio in which I saw these.
9:00 AM, 1/7/2023 how fo the prives on centro work?
9:00 AM, 1/7/2023 I never went.
:30 AM, 1/7/2023 You go, girls line up, you pick a girl, 90 reais Half hour, Saturday special, go on metro and get off at metro uruguiana, 12-3 are hours. Meet at metro jardim oceanico at 11 h.
9:30 AM, 1/7/2023 Prives are the sweet spot of the market.
9:36 AM, 1/7/2023 If SP had a beach it would be different 😁.
9:38 AM, 1/7/2023 Santos beach is a 90 minute Uber away. That is closest. The whole experience is the thing for me. Yes sex on demand but also the beach before and after and swimming etc.
9:40 AM, 1/7/2023 Everyone has a different list, having lived in my top 4. I would say MDE is a distant 4th or maybe even 5th (I have lived in MDE). And I say that as an absolute lover of Latin women.
9:40 AM, 1/7/2023 Porto allegre is underrated, and so is Florida.
9:41 AM, 1/7/2023: Floripa.
9:41 AM, 1/7/2023: lets make that 11:30.
10:03 AM, 1/7/2023: K.
10:04 AM, 1/7/2023: But Santos is really crap compare to Rio. So corrupted. Majority of high level paulista don't go here anymore. Bars and restaurant offers is low.
In sex there is Nothing at all. 2 Poor clubs I tried with few girls. Nothing on website either. Forums like Gpguia or cucuta have a litoral section which is empty.
10:56 AM, 1/7/2023:11:30 meeting metro jardim oceanico still stands?
10:59 AM, 1/7/2023: Yes.
10:59 AM, 1/7/2023: alright see you there.
11:20 AM, 1/7/2023: In station.
11:28 AM, 1/7/2023: Waiting down by tracks platform 2 direction uruguai.
11:29 AM, 1/7/2023: how do I get in.
11:29 AM, 1/7/2023: I will wait by turnstile.
11:29 AM, 1/7/2023: You need a card.
11:30 AM, 1/7/2023 I'm here.
11:38 AM, 1/7/2023: Vagabundo and chege headed to darkroom and emporio do banho.
2:24 PM, 1/7/2023 As far as coworking spaces in Rio Centro, darkroom and 4 x4 have wifi and are motivational spaces to work.
...I have to agree with your views of the prives. It never made sense to me to do all that legwork just to bang someone who is a 3 to a 5....I think it depends on the context. Let's look at it as a math problem, and these are some variables.
Lodging:
Out of your own pocket or paid by work
Transportation:
Out of your own pocket or paid by work
Food
Out of your own pocket or paid by work
Girl
How many times do you have paid sex a year. (total session cost) is roughly (session cost ) x (session count)
.
These are some variables the determine the total cost. I think out of pocket cost is different for each person. One has to look at the number to see if it makes sense. Obviously, most people will pay the girl out of their own pocket but if the trip is paid by work, then one can pay more for the girl. If one's time here is short, one pays more for one's time.
If one is here 6 months and has one or two sessions a day, then it is ideal to reduce session cost. The prives offer the lowest base price so it makes sense. The prives often is the first stop for new girls, so are other places. One only needs one girl so it does not matter even most are ugly. One can grab the fresh one, then wait for opportunity to upgrade. There are many people value freshness over look.
Personally, the look becomes far less important when the sex is really good so I start to look for great sex, instead of the best looking girls but I will still try when I meet one. LOL
I think it depends on the context. Let's look at it as a math problem, and these are some variables.
Lodging:
Out of your own pocket or paid by work
Transportation:
Out of your own pocket or paid by work
Food
Out of your own pocket or paid by work
Girl
How many times do you have paid sex a year. (total session cost) is roughly (session cost ) x (session count)
.
These are some variables the determine the total cost. I think out of pocket cost is different for each person. One has to look at the number to see if it makes sense. Obviously, most people will pay the girl out of their own pocket but if the trip is paid by work, then one can pay more for the girl. If one's time here is short, one pays more for one's time.
If one is here 6 months and has one or two sessions a day, then it is ideal to reduce session cost. The prives offer the lowest base price so it makes sense. The prives often is the first stop for new girls, so are other places. One only needs one girl so it does not matter even most are ugly. One can grab the fresh one, then wait for opportunity to upgrade. There are many people value freshness over look.
Personally, the look becomes far less important when the sex is really good so I start to look for great sex, instead of the best looking girls but I will still try when I meet one. LOLCompletely agree. And that is why I added "to each his own".
Axel Heyst
01-08-23, 00:54
Wrong. The girls are not their workers. The girls are freelance and go to the club to pick up tricks. It is just a normal club but they try to charge a guy if he leaves with one of the chicks that are inside looking for customers.Every girl you see in Scandallo, Bomboa, Casarao is a FL too, but that does not stop the boate from charging customers a takeaway fee in lieu of the in-house hotel fee. The girls have to abide by certain time rules set by the boate, but only if they want to gain free entry to the club. A lot of the top tier girls don't give a shit about that and show up whenever they feel like it and yeah, they pay the entry fee which I believe at Scandallo is 200 BR or 250 BR except on special entertainment nights when a girl's entry fee is upped to 500 BR.
I found a way to bypass the exit fee when you take a girl out of Dolce Vita. (DV charges either 75 or 100 R to take a girl out of the club with you, I think it's called a "desperta" fee on your bill).
The best way to bypass the fee? Just go up to the desk by yourself when you are paying the bill, don't have the garota standing next to you at the desk. When you get your receipt, go grab your girl and walk out of the club. They are not going to stop you at the bottom and make you go back upstairs to pay the fee. I did this multiple times on my trip last month and never had an issue, in addition, I ifigured they owed me money from all the times they ripped me off in the past.
Good News: I think someone must have said something to the owner / manager. The blonde woman who normally works the desk wasnt there for there during my entire vacation. They have some young guy working the desk now. I still go over the bill but he hasnt tried to rip me off the way the woman constantly did.Are we talking about freelance girls? Do they have some sort of arrangement with DV? Do they pay entry fee? What are the terms as explained to you as a customer?
Vagabundo1
01-08-23, 02:03
Senor nounce, I concur, and thanks for the analysis.
The simple fact is that if you are here, you see that the same girls work in prives as in boates, it's just a matter of which hours they want. Tier 1 prives like bel prazer have the same girls as boates like 4 x4 who started in VM -- indeed, the new porn star lorena green in some of the new videos by the porn actor / director mambo perv on analvids.com specifically was identified to me as a girl who worked in VM and in a boate.
You also realize the same girls who work in solarium one week are in perola negra the other week.
But that said, the customer is always right. If he paid for the girl and he had a good roll in the hay, it's a rounding error on what a rich world investor sees in daily profit and loss, even if he picked the most expensive girl at 4 x4, which may be the optimal place to run said investments, reclining on the lawn chairs in the steam room, which is the ideal place to get numbers, the paying customers who pay full price for a hour be damned, the long term intelligent investor gets the same pussy for a full night for the same price. That customer, the vagabundo, is always right too!
I think it depends on the context. Let's look at it as a math problem, and these are some variables.
Lodging:
Out of your own pocket or paid by work
Transportation:
Out of your own pocket or paid by work
Food
Out of your own pocket or paid by work
Girl
How many times do you have paid sex a year. (total session cost) is roughly (session cost ) x (session count)
.
These are some variables the determine the total cost. I think out of pocket cost is different for each person. One has to look at the number to see if it makes sense. Obviously, most people will pay the girl out of their own pocket but if the trip is paid by work, then one can pay more for the girl. If one's time here is short, one pays more for one's time.
If one is here 6 months and has one or two sessions a day, then it is ideal to reduce session cost. The prives offer the lowest base price so it makes sense. The prives often is the first stop for new girls, so are other places. One only needs one girl so it does not matter even most are ugly. One can grab the fresh one, then wait for opportunity to upgrade. There are many people value freshness over look.
Personally, the look becomes far less important when the sex is really good so I start to look for great sex, instead of the best looking girls but I will still try when I meet one. LOL
Wrong. The girls are not their workers. The girls are freelance and go to the club to pick up tricks. It is just a normal club but they try to charge a guy if he leaves with one of the chicks that are inside looking for customers.Exactly! A poor punter walks in for 50, buys loads of drinks for himself and a girl (at, let's say, quite elevated prices), and they have an audacity to charge the dude another 100 for finding a company. For 150 reals you can get a good 1-hour session in Centro, so screw that. I'm with Bravo on this.
Axel Heyst
01-08-23, 18:14
Exactly! A poor punter walks in for 50, buys loads of drinks for himself and a girl (at, let's say, quite elevated prices), and they have an audacity to charge the dude another 100 for finding a company. For 150 reals you can get a good 1-hour session in Centro, so screw that. I'm with Bravo on this.It is called free choice. The boate is not forcing anyone to enter its establishment and hook up with a girl. If you don't like the pricing structure don't go. Following the OP's suggestion to its logical conclusion it is ok to skip out on a restaurant bill if the back door next to the bathroom is left open.
I have a question about negotiating the price of a freelancer.
The last time I was there 20 years ago, I checked into my hotel and walked a couple of blocks to Mabs. A girl approached me almost immediately and asked if I wanted to hook up. We negotiated 250 and I thought she was talking Reals so I said "sure". I had a girl in my room one hour after arriving in Rio but before we did anything I thought I should verify the amount in Reals rather than dollars.
I found out she was quoting dollars. So I had to renegotiate. I found out that the girls try to negotiate in dollars because I am a gringo. Do they still do that today?
Back then it was 3. 5 are per dollar. Now it's 5. 24 are per dollar.
I have a question about negotiating the price of a freelancer.
The last time I was there 20 years ago, I checked into my hotel and walked a couple of blocks to Mabs. A girl approached me almost immediately and asked if I wanted to hook up. We negotiated 250 and I thought she was talking Reals so I said "sure". I had a girl in my room one hour after arriving in Rio but before we did anything I thought I should verify the amount in Reals rather than dollars.
I found out she was quoting dollars. So I had to renegotiate. I found out that the girls try to negotiate in dollars because I am a gringo. Do they still do that today?
Back then it was 3. 5 are per dollar. Now it's 5. 24 are per dollar.I'm a gringo and never had a Brazilian girl try to negotiate with me in dollars. Its always been in reals. In fact, the only places where I personally have been where the girls have spoken to me in dollars are Panama (where the dollar is legal tender) and in Costa Rica (super heavy concentration of gringos dominating the monger population at tourist venues).
It is called free choice. The boate is not forcing anyone to enter its establishment and hook up with a girl. If you don't like the pricing structure don't go. Following the OP's suggestion to its logical conclusion it is ok to skip out on a restaurant bill if the back door next to the bathroom is left open.I can understand entrance fees, overpriced drinks, etc but why would I pay a take out fee if all the girls are freelancers and do not work for boate? I don't get. Whether I hook up with a girl or not, is not their business.
Why not just tell the girl to meet you outside?I don't see why this is even something to debate about. If you don't want to pay what amounts to a bar fine, even if it is small, just tell the girl to meet you outside. Problem solved!
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