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50 years old. Can you guys recommend the best ED drug. I know there are a few different ones now. What are your experiences with the different ones. Should I just go with the longest acting ones.If you tolerate Cialis well, I find it superior to Viagra. Maybe it's just me, but using Cialis also works like an aphrodisiac for me, while V just does its job (but does it well). The problem with see for me, is that my heart rate goes berserk along with the excitement, and would only return to normal in a day or two. But again, if it doesn't have any side effects for you, I'd start with see.
Keep in mind, though, that one major sexual side effect of any ED drug, is that it delays the climax. And while it might sound like a good thing to some guys, it often is not. Like Kramer said, sometimes it's enough already, and I just want to sleep, KKKK.
I know another board member that is about the same age that goes through this and he does not see it as a good thing. He is actually frustrated by it. Seems it is the sex that counts for you, while for him it is the blowing of the load that matters.I ended up blowing the load with some of the girls. I enjoy the sex regardless. I don't get frustrated by it. I look at the good side. I pay for an hour and get to take full advantage. If I don't finish with one girl then I go back and get another girl and try it again. It is probably an issue with some seniors. I never had that issue when I was younger. I don't have erectile dysfunction yet so that's a bonus.
Is there a limit to how much you can purchase at duty free? I know there is a limit of 500 dollars when bringing gifts into the country but if you purchase everything in duty free, do you bypass that rule?
Mr Enternational
03-21-23, 18:36
Is there a limit to how much you can purchase at duty free? I know there is a limit of 500 dollars when bringing gifts into the country but if you purchase everything in duty free, do you bypass that rule?Here you go.
https://www.worldtravelguide.net/guides/south-america/brazil/money-duty-free/
Is there a limit to how much you can purchase at duty free? I know there is a limit of 500 dollars when bringing gifts into the country but if you purchase everything in duty free, do you bypass that rule?Since last July the limit is USD 1000 for the gifts and alcohol and USD 1000 for arrival duty free. https://www.gov.br/receitafederal/pt-br/assuntos/aduana-e-comercio-exterior/viagens-internacionais/guia-do-viajante/travellers-guide/arriving-in-brazill/exemptions-quotas-quantity-limits-and-duty-free.
I was in 4 X4 yesterday and had a great convo with a newbie and a vet, the 3 of us were talking about the changes in Rio. For the newbie, it was paradise. It was his 3rd day in country, and he was as happy as a pig in shit. The vet and I were complaining that it seems like the freelancers are all asking for 100 bucks an hour now, we explained that for 100 bucks you would get all night and then early afternoon from a help girl. It seems like the girls are asking for and sticking to the 500 R price, luckily, I have a rolodex for friends from the past that will still do all night. The problem is, they are all getting into their mid to late 30's and wear and tear is showing. LOL!!
Even the prive girls are asking for crazy prices!
I had one prive girl give me her number. She told me that out of the 150 R I pay for an hour in the prive, she gets 75 R. I told her to come to my centro hotel before she starts working and I would give her 200 R for an hour. (I explained that it was almost 3 X what she would get at the prive, plus, she wouldn't have to give the house a cut). She countered with 375 R an hour, plus I had to pay for her Uber from her house and to work after. All in all, it would have come up to about 525 R for the hour. I explained that it was crazy for me to pay that kind of price when I could just pay 150 R at the prive and fuck her there instead of paying 500 R to fuck in her in my hotel. No matter how hard I tried to get her to reconsider, she just couldn't understand that she was overpricing herself.
Side Note: It appears that the Roof Top Bar at Pestana doesn't have a DJ and Music on the weekends anymore. I took a date on Saturday and it was dead, only 3 couples. Still has the amazing few but its dead without the DJ.
50 years old. Can you guys recommend the best ED drug. I know there are a few different ones now. What are your experiences with the different ones. Should I just go with the longest acting ones.Familiarize yourself with the products in Mundo Verde. After a little trial and error, you'll get the perfect mix for your needs. There's a shop in Centro with fresh ingredients if you want to do it the way Brazilians do it. No need to ever use Big Pharma products, not in this country.
Are you serious about povidone iodine? I don't know what will happen when it is inside the pipe, but when you apply it outside, won't it color your pipe brown LOL? Or maybe your pipe is brown already so it does not matter for you?!
But do buy yourself a bottle of povidone iodine, the brown solution. This is the real stuff that surgeons use for disinfection of anything on the patient before cutting or shoving anything big inside. You wash your dick around and then you actually squirt this stuff up your pipe. Do it early and if you sense any burning, do it often. Like, after every time you pee you wash your glans and you squirt this stuff in by holding up the little man and with the nozzle of the bottle down, you stick it into the mouth of the urethra and you squeeze. Make sure you hold your little man on the side, so as not to squeeze your urethra shut. This stuff should NOT burn. If it burns, it means you have something. This means you really need to do this treatment. If you do it on the same day (ideally as soon as you come back to your room after the deed was done) then you should never have to worry again.
Pahllus Maximus
03-23-23, 05:40
History buffs: Don't forget Lilith who featured in Mesopotamian and Judaic mythology, wife of Adam but expelled from Eden for lack of obedience to Adam. I interpret this as her love of BBJCIM rather than getting knocked up and creating God's flock.
Stinky Squid and some other authors here made some amazing posts on the care and feeding of women. Keep in mind you women of 19-24 are, as Cyndi Lauper sang interested in this: "Girls just want to have fun" rather than hanging with old dudes, many with beer guts, sometimes clingy like a puppy, horny, and often ugly with bad breath. Youth only comes around once. Imagine yourself at 20 licking out a fat old wrinkled hag for money and squirting all over you. You might do it, but you would also want to get distracted and forget it. Flakiness to us is their mental escape from their other fairly sordid transaction life. They are in it for the money. Youth for cash. We are buying an illusion just like the gambling industry or supporting a political franchise (called a party) thinking you "belong" to something. This self-delusion is a pleasant bit of play, so long as Jack knows that all play makes Jack a miserable boy, dosed up on too much dopamine. Stay fit, don't drink, don't smoke, stay away from junk food (pretty much everything) and keep up your grooming and dental care. It's not for the girls, but for YOU !
Theodora was certainly a minx that appears to have caused a great deal of sexual jealously of her biographer. Would have been fun to know her and Justinian.
Returning to Lilith and her traditional Talmudic rituals, I am carrying on my tooth enamel experiment of tonsil massage and BBJCIM as my unique contribution to American aid and medical science. I accept that my record keeping and data follow up probably lacks orthodox rigor, and may even offend feminist/woke ethical frameworks. As mentioned previously, and thanks to Vagabond, there is a Michelle Obama doppelgnger with whom I hope to re-enact Bill Clinton's pioneering work. Imagine the secret service snickering as the muffled cries from oval room and a beaming Billy exiting and the infamous cum splattered dress! Kkkkk.
Vagabundo1
03-23-23, 07:19
My fellow Rabbi -- you sir are a mfkin literary genius!
History buffs: Don't forget Lilith who featured in Mesopotamian and Judaic mythology, wife of Adam but expelled from Eden for lack of obedience to Adam. I interpret this as her love of BBJCIM rather than getting knocked up and creating God's flock.
Stinky Squid and some other authors here made some amazing posts on the care and feeding of women. Keep in mind you women of 19-24 are, as Cyndi Lauper sang interested in this: "Girls just want to have fun" rather than hanging with old dudes, many with beer guts, sometimes clingy like a puppy, horny, and often ugly with bad breath. Youth only comes around once. Imagine yourself at 20 licking out a fat old wrinkled hag for money and squirting all over you. You might do it, but you would also want to get distracted and forget it. Flakiness to us is their mental escape from their other fairly sordid transaction life. They are in it for the money. Youth for cash. We are buying an illusion just like the gambling industry or supporting a political franchise (called a party) thinking you "belong" to something. This self-delusion is a pleasant bit of play, so long as Jack knows that all play makes Jack a miserable boy, dosed up on too much dopamine. Stay fit, don't drink, don't smoke, stay away from junk food (pretty much everything) and keep up your grooming and dental care. It's not for the girls, but for YOU !
Theodora was certainly a minx that appears to have caused a great deal of sexual jealously of her biographer. Would have been fun to know her and Justinian.
Returning to Lilith and her traditional Talmudic rituals, I am carrying on my tooth enamel experiment of tonsil massage and BBJCIM as my unique contribution to American aid and medical science. I accept that my record keeping and data follow up probably lacks orthodox rigor, and may even offend feminist/woke ethical frameworks. As mentioned previously, and thanks to Vagabond, there is a Michelle Obama doppelgnger with whom I hope to re-enact Bill Clinton's pioneering work. Imagine the secret service snickering as the muffled cries from oval room and a beaming Billy exiting and the infamous cum splattered dress! Kkkkk.
Hi,
I am planning my next trip to Rio. I will be in Rio de Janeiro from the 13 to the 16th of April. Usually I stay in Copacabana at the Pestana. See my previous reports (I travel much around the world and reports a lot). I remember people were talking in this forum about an apartment hotel in Barra de Tijuca with many working girls. Something called TA I think. Can someone please point me to this hotel? Do you think it is better than the Pestana in Copacabana? And what are your remarks for Windsor California Copacabana who got much better reviews in booking? (Pestana only got 7. 9 grade while Windsor got 9. 0).
Thanks in advance.
Aviv.
Wayne Roberts
03-23-23, 10:37
I was in 4 X4 yesterday and had a great convo with a newbie and a vet, the 3 of us were talking about the changes in Rio. For the newbie, it was paradise. It was his 3rd day in country, and he was as happy as a pig in shit. The vet and I were complaining that it seems like the freelancers are all asking for 100 bucks an hour now, we explained that for 100 bucks you would get all night and then early afternoon from a help girl. It seems like the girls are asking for and sticking to the 500 R price, luckily, I have a rolodex for friends from the past that will still do all night. The problem is, they are all getting into their mid to late 30's and wear and tear is showing. LOL!!
Even the prive girls are asking for crazy prices!
I had one prive girl give me her number. She told me that out of the 150 R I pay for an hour in the prive, she gets 75 R. I told her to come to my centro hotel before she starts working and I would give her 200 R for an hour. (I explained that it was almost 3 X what she would get at the prive, plus, she wouldn't have to give the house a cut). She countered with 375 R an hour, plus I had to pay for her Uber from her house and to work after. All in all, it would have come up to about 525 R for the hour. I explained that it was crazy for me to pay that kind of price when I could just pay 150 R at the prive and fuck her there instead of paying 500 R to fuck in her in my hotel. No matter how hard I tried to get her to reconsider, she just couldn't understand that she was overpricing herself.
Side Note: It appears that the Roof Top Bar at Pestana doesn't have a DJ and Music on the weekends anymore. I took a date on Saturday and it was dead, only 3 couples. Still has the amazing few but its dead without the DJ.This is not unique to Brazil, prices are up everywhere. General inflation has hit, but hooker prices are up the world over as the girls deal with the cost of living pressure increases too. I think you might need to adjust your expectations a bit, the girls are not being greedy.
Brazil is cheap as hell right now for the quality you get and the kind of service these women provide. Ill give you some basic comparisons.
Thailand. You are looking at roughly $120 for a session with an average Gogo girl right now (so 600 BRL for a pop). If you want her overnight, you are looking at about $220 (1200 BRL). That does not include your drinks or her drinks either, that is just your barfines and her rate. If you have a bit of a night, you are closing in on $300. Thats 1500 BRL for run of the mill gogo girls. If you want to hit the knock shops, they are running you $80-$100 and upwards depending on girl quality. If you hit the beer bars, sessions excluding drinks $45-$60. The quality of the girls has dropped off a ton too.
Philippines. So much for cheap sex. An average night on P. Burgos in Manila is costing you $180 just for barfines and the girls. Over $200 if you want them to stay beyond your second shot or 4 hours. This does not even include drinks and lady drinks. Sure, its cheaper in Angeles by about 40%. But you are in Angeles, one of the biggest shitholes in Asia and the women are so far below average that the only men happy to fuck them are the 70 year old geezers looking for bareback sex on their pensions.
Vietnam. Sessions at the Hot Tocs with decent women are running between $120-$150 for 90 minutes. Overnighters are pushing $200 plus. Yes there are bargains to be found, but Vietnam is not geared up for this and its not a straightforard place to monger.
So in saying this, the prices in Brazil are on par and even lower in some cases. The quality of the women in Brazil smokes whatever you are getting in Asia at these prices, and while Asians are nice to fuck there is simply no contest when it comes to Brazilian women. They sling ass like no one on God green earth.
Steve 9696
03-23-23, 13:23
This is not unique to Brazil, prices are up everywhere. General inflation has hit, but hooker prices are up the world over as the girls deal with the cost of living pressure increases too. I think you might need to adjust your expectations a bit, the girls are not being greedy.
Brazil is cheap as hell right now for the quality you get and the kind of service these women provide. Ill give you some basic comparisons.
Thailand. You are looking at roughly $120 for a session with an average Gogo girl right now (so 600 BRL for a pop). If you want her overnight, you are looking at about $220 (1200 BRL). That does not include your drinks or her drinks either, that is just your barfines and her rate. If you have a bit of a night, you are closing in on $300. Thats 1500 BRL for run of the mill gogo girls. If you want to hit the knock shops, they are running you $80-$100 and upwards depending on girl quality. If you hit the beer bars, sessions excluding drinks $45-$60. The quality of the girls has dropped off a ton too.
Philippines. So much for cheap sex. An average night on P. Burgos in Manila is costing you $180 just for barfines and the girls. Over $200 if you want them to stay beyond your second shot or 4 hours. This does not even include drinks and lady drinks. Sure, its cheaper in Angeles by about 40%. But you are in Angeles, one of the biggest shitholes in Asia and the women are so far below average that the only men happy to fuck them are the 70 year old geezers looking for bareback sex on their pensions.
Vietnam. Sessions at the Hot Tocs with decent women are running between $120-$150 for 90 minutes. Overnighters are pushing $200 plus. Yes there are bargains to be found, but Vietnam is not geared up for this and its not a straightforard place to monger.
So in saying this, the prices in Brazil are on par and even lower in some cases. The quality of the women in Brazil smokes whatever you are getting in Asia at these prices, and while Asians are nice to fuck there is simply no contest when it comes to Brazilian women. They sling ass like no one on God green earth.Thanks Wayne for your comprehensive perspective, particularly with AP where my knowledge is weakest. But you are def spot on. FKK in Germany used to be 50/ hf and now it's 100/ hf and that's after entry fee and the service no where near as good as in Brazil. Kissing? Extra. DATY? Extra. Wtf. You are now paying 500 R-1000 R a half hour! And the girls and service don't compare. Brazil fucking rules. Count your blessings fellas. And fuck a Brasileira today. It's good for the economy. 😋.
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Thailand. You are looking at roughly $120 for a session with an average Gogo girl right now (so 600 BRL for a pop). ...The Asian countries are not good examples. The price has been going up way before Covid due to the increase of Asian customers. My last session at Baccara costed about 5000 baht.
I know very well on what everything cost including groceries, and wholesale price because I cook too. They have not gone up that much. Clinica price is still unchanged.
Axel Heyst
03-23-23, 16:52
This is not unique to Brazil, prices are up everywhere. General inflation has hit, but hooker prices are up the world over
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Thailand. You are looking at roughly $120 for a session with an average Gogo girl right now (so 600 BRL for a pop). If you want her overnight, you are looking at about $220 (1200 BRL). That does not include your drinks or her drinks either, that is just your barfines and her rate. If you have a bit of a night, you are closing in on $300. Thats 1500 BRL for run of the mill gogo girls. If you want to hit the knock shops, they are running you $80-$100 and upwards depending on girl quality. If you hit the beer bars, sessions excluding drinks $45-$60. The quality of the girls has dropped off a ton too.
Philippines. So much for cheap sex. An average night on P. Burgos in Manila is costing you $180 just for barfines and the girls. Over $200 if you want them to stay beyond your second shot or 4 hours. This does not even include drinks and lady drinks. Sure, its cheaper in Angeles by about 40%. But you are in Angeles, one of the biggest shitholes in Asia and the women are so far below average that the only men happy to fuck them are the 70 year old geezers looking for bareback sex on their pensions.
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So in saying this, the prices in Brazil are on par and even lower in some cases. The quality of the women in Brazil smokes whatever you are getting in Asia at these prices, and while Asians are nice to fuck there is simply no contest when it comes to Brazilian women. They sling ass like no one on God green earth.Thanks for the post Wayne. You saved me from doing the same. Yeah, pussy prices have surged everywhere much more than corresponding national inflation rates have risen. Take my pre-covid favorite Go Go in Pattaya: The pricing in this bar has gone insane. My understanding was that bifurcated early barfines are something like 2,500 baht and then after midnight the barfine is 1,500 baht. But then the bar apparently instituted a 5 drink lady drink minimum before a girl is allowed to leave the bar with a customer. This is where it can get very confusing, because the 5-drink minimum is not firm and it can vary depending on the time and on apparently the bar's whim or something. I am not sure how that works.
Anyway, a relievable buddy of mine was there recently and he told me he was quoted crazy shit like a 4000 baht barfine before midnight and 2000 baht barfine after midnight. The night he went there he found a pretty spinner he liked the look of. He played along for 2 hours waiting for the magic midnight hour all the while buying his girl a bunch of lady drinks while they fooled around in the bar. Midnight came and then the girl tells him she has to have 25 LDs in order to leave with him! Total BS so he walked out in disgust and left the girl at the Pin Up. 2 wasted hours. BTW, the girl wanted 5,000 baht for ST. So, he calculated the total cost of shagging this sexy Pin Up Go Go girl would have been 2000 Baht BF + 5000 Baht ST for the girl + 6250 Baht for Lady Drinks which comes to a grand total of 13,250 baht of approximately $380 US to barfine the girl for a ST session after midnight. It would have been another 2,000 baht to do her before midnight.
Now like I said there is some real confusion over Pin UP's minimum Lady Drink Policy. Is it 5 drinks before she can leave or 25 drinks which is crazy. Is the drink minimum cumulative over the entire night I. E. If another customer has already bought the girl a couple of lady drinks, does that count towards the required minimum. Who knows! I would have to fly 24 hours to Thailand to find out. But this is the kind of BS that is going on in LOS nowadays and one of the major reasons I have not gone back since the country opened up.
Now, it should be made clear for those not acquainted with this particular GO GO, that Pin Up has the best-looking girls of any Go Go in Pattaya. IMHO and I can vouch for this fact pre-Covid and I assume it is still true from all that I have read and heard from variolous trustworthy sources like my friend even though I do think he is somehow mistaken about the minimum 25 lady drink stuff. Add to that, there are many, many less expensive alternatives in Pattaya, but I am trying to compare apples to apples, the best with the best: Sao Paulo vs Pattaya, Scandallo vs Pin Up so you can see my point which is that hyper pussy inflation is everywhere.
Lastly, it is very easy to say, well, I wouldn't go to a joint like Pin Up especially when there are so many less expensive alternatives in Pat that are still straight up as far as their bargirl policies are concerned. It is the same thing with Scandallo. There are many less expensive alternatives in Sao Paulo. My advice is go where you want and where you think you will get the most bang for your buck. I like friendly, really attractive girls in large numbers, so I gravitate toward places like Scandallo. Woe is me. KKK. The price of pretty girls is up big time worldwide and there is nothing we can do about it except to pay up and enjoy the buffet or cut back on the high end fun and go to cheaper bordellos. There is nothing wrong with SP clinicas. I liked them from the first time I stepped foot in Abbobora almost 2 years ago.
AlwaysHorny 2
03-23-23, 17:48
My list below is what I found from RTFF. I will be in Rio (Copa) for over 3 weeks and would like to eat healthy meals most of the time. Any insight on the places below of others would be greatly appreciated:
Zanetti Grill on Rua do Rosario.
Boteca Belmonte.
Aipo e Apim.
Bibi Sucos on Miguel Lemos.
Are churrasco type places the main option? Are there protein smoothie shops?
Thanks!
RakSopheni
03-23-23, 20:09
Thailand. You are looking at roughly $120 for a session with an average Gogo girl right now (so 600 BRL for a pop). I've been getting above average, slim girls off Thaifriendly for 1500-2000 baht ($44-58 usd) BBFSCIP. Soi 6 and most Gent clubs are still about 1000 baht ($30 usd). GoGo Girls have always been more expensive and viewed as a tourist trap.
Thai GoGo girl prices are high due to most of them now being drink queens and declining barfines. There are a number of causes for this- I'm not disputing inflation being one of them.
Thailand. You are looking at roughly $120 for a session with an average Gogo girl right now (so 600 BRL for a pop). If you want her overnight, you are looking at about $220 (1200 BRL). That does not include your drinks or her drinks either, that is just your barfines and her rate. .120 to 200 US fucking dollars for Thailand and the Philippines? Holy shit! There goes my dumb illusion that the far east was for super cheap sex!! I was thinking it was 30-50 bucks at the most. Thank goodness I never had an inkling to go to either country. I think asian women are beautiful, but I am a big booty lover and know I would be miserable in both countries!
RakSopheni
03-23-23, 20:58
120 to 200 US fucking dollars for Thailand and the Philippines? Holy shit! There goes my dumb illusion that the far east was for super cheap sex!! I was thinking it was 30-50 bucks at the most. Thank goodness I never had an inkling to go to either country. I think asian women are beautiful, but I am a big booty lover and know I would be miserable in both countries!It's not a representative figure. Only applies to tourist trap Go Gos.
I've been getting above average, slim girls off Thaifriendly for 1500-2000 baht ($44-58 usd) BBFSCIP. Soi 6 and most Gent clubs are still about 1000 baht ($30 usd). GoGo Girls have always been more expensive and viewed as a tourist trap.
Thai GoGo girl prices are high due to most of them now being drink queens and declining barfines. There are a number of causes for this- I'm not disputing inflation being one of them.When prices go up the first thing someone who wants to find a justification for that does is talk about inflation! But plenty of times inflation doesn't have a damn thing to do with it and it's just pure greed. Take Germany for example. At the FKKs it used to be a pretty standard 50 euros per 30 minutes with BBBJ included. Well the German government, in its infinite meddling wisdom, passed a "condom law" requiring that they be used at all times at the FKKs, including for oral sex. So what did the tutes do? They banded together and said that if the guys still wanted BBBJs then the cost was going to be 50 euros more! That's a 100% increase in the price for a 30 minute session and clearly has nothing to do with "inflation". The tutes were already being paid well at 50 euros per half hour (most people don't even make that in 1 hour) and they just took advantage of a situation to extract more for, quite frankly, not offering more. Well I hear a lot of the FKK clubs are pretty empty of customers right now. Good! Would love to hear your take on what's going on in Thailand.
Wayne Roberts
03-24-23, 02:40
It's not a representative figure. Only applies to tourist trap Go Gos.This is not true at all.
The gogos and soapies are not tourist traps, they are where the highest quality women are found and they are the best venues. The high class gentlemens clubs in Bangkok are a notch above those, but the prices are higher than the gogos and the soapies. Terma pricing is higher than clinicas, are Termas tourist traps too? Its the same logic.
Its not 1000 Baht for a session with a girl on soi 6 either, you still have to pay the barfine of 300-400 baht. Then there is the typical drink before hand, so add another 200 baht onto that. That's clinica pricing in Sao Paulo, its 250 BRL. This is before we even talk about looks and performance, and quite frankly 90% of the women on Soi 6 are unfuckable compared to what's available at the average clinica. Prices are also going up on Soi 6, with many girls asking for 1500 baht now. There are also huge issues with a lot of women who won't even barfine, they are working for salaries and drinks only and they get away with it because the bars are desperate to hold onto women.
Then there is the matter of bars closing down or struggling to find women at all. The quality has never been this bad.
Yes you can find girls off Thai Friendly for 1500-2000 THB. You can find women at those sorts of prices on Photo Accompaniments too.
Those prices you mention are also Pattaya prices. They are not BKK prices. The women in BKK are a notch above, but the average freelancer for a one shot ST is asking for 3000 baht now. Sometimes you can get them down to 2500. You are not finding women for less than that unless they are old or very plain. So at roughly 400 real for one shot with a freelancer, how does that compare to the prices of the entry level escorts and freelancers roaming around Rio?
The point I am making is that Brazil is not expensive. Price wise its on par with Thailand, which is considered one of the cheaper destinations in the world with a large a large, well organizes sex industry. The girls in Brazil are not the only ones pushing prices up, everyone around the world is as they deal with inflation too. Where Brazil is an absolute home run is that not only is the cost reasonable and the industry large, Brazilian women are WAY more attractive on average and they also outfuck the Thai women.
Wayne Roberts
03-24-23, 02:46
120 to 200 US fucking dollars for Thailand and the Philippines? Holy shit! There goes my dumb illusion that the far east was for super cheap sex!! I was thinking it was 30-50 bucks at the most. Thank goodness I never had an inkling to go to either country. I think Asian women are beautiful, but I am a big booty lover and know I would be miserable in both countries!In Philippines, you can get cheaper options. The quality is poor though. Very poor. You have to hunt hard, and the better looking girls are charging a premium too because there is competition for them. Thailand has always had the Japaneses throwing money around, in the Philippines (particularly Angeles) its the Koreans. 2 guys will walk in and barfine 4-5 girls before 8 pm. A few of these guys roll in and the gogos are wastelands.
Where Philippines shines is if you are on the ground for a long time. You don't focus on the bar girls and pros, you focus on the semi pros, regular girls and the ones who want to find a sugar daddy. That gives you access to the top 1%-2% of Filipina women, and those women are something else.
Wayne Roberts
03-24-23, 02:57
When prices go up the first thing someone who wants to find a justification for that does is talk about inflation! But plenty of times inflation doesn't have a damn thing to do with it and it's just pure greed. Take Germany for example. At the FKKs it used to be a pretty standard 50 euros per 30 minutes with BBBJ included. Well the German government, in its infinite meddling wisdom, passed a "condom law" requiring that they be used at all times at the FKKs, including for oral sex. So what did the tutes do? They banded together and said that if the guys still wanted BBBJs then the cost was going to be 50 euros more! That's a 100% increase in the price for a 30 minute session and clearly has nothing to do with "inflation". The tutes were already being paid well at 50 euros per half hour (most people don't even make that in 1 hour) and they just took advantage of a situation to extract more for, quite frankly, not offering more. Well I hear a lot of the FKK clubs are pretty empty of customers right now. Good! Would love to hear your take on what's going on in Thailand.Its been 50 euros for a 30 minute session for over 15 years. What does 50 euros even buy you these days? Is everyone still earning what they earned 15 years ago?
They are not working a production line or retail job, they are selling their bodies and taking loads from men they often do not find attractive at all, and still put on some sort of show. This is a profession that takes a serious toll on all women too and the time they can earn is quite short.
As always the market will set the price. If the women at the FKK's in Germany or Gogos in Thailand are overcharging compared to other options are in the same city, then eventually they will have to adjust too. Prices are going up everywhere though, its not just one country. Inflation is real and the hookers live in the same world we do.
When prices go up the first thing someone who wants to find a justification for that does is talk about inflation! But plenty of times inflation doesn't have a damn thing to do with it and it's just pure greed. Take Germany for example. At the FKKs it used to be a pretty standard 50 euros per 30 minutes with BBBJ included. Well the German government, in its infinite meddling wisdom, passed a "condom law" requiring that they be used at all times at the FKKs, including for oral sex. So what did the tutes do? They banded together and said that if the guys still wanted BBBJs then the cost was going to be 50 euros more! That's a 100% increase in the price for a 30 minute session and clearly has nothing to do with "inflation". The tutes were already being paid well at 50 euros per half hour (most people don't even make that in 1 hour) and they just took advantage of a situation to extract more for, quite frankly, not offering more. Well I hear a lot of the FKK clubs are pretty empty of customers right now. Good! Would love to hear your take on what's going on in Thailand.Like he said, this is only what popular Go-Go's charge. They were aiming for the same $100+ in 2010's.
Mr Enternational
03-24-23, 06:05
When prices go up the first thing someone who wants to find a justification for that does is talk about inflation! But plenty of times inflation doesn't have a damn thing to do with it and it's just pure greed. Would love to hear your take on what's going on in Thailand.Well it is exactly as you and Rak have said. It is pretty much greed and gogo bars where you see the price increase ridiculously. I have never been a gogo bar guy. To me they have always been a ripoff when I can see the same girl in a disco when she finishes work and get her for 1/3 of the price back then and these days 1/6 of the price since gogo prices have gone up so much. I have never understood the big fascination of getting a chick from there. I was DJ in an Atlanta strip club where chicks get naked and bust it all the way open my last year in high school so, I am really like meh when I see a chick on stage shuffling around in a bikini or whatever. It most certainly does not make me want to come out of the pocket $200; and especially when I saw her at the market in her pajamas getting food before she went to work. She was just a normal chick like everybody else that would have accepted $30 for short time. But when the lights start flashing and the drinks start pouring guys in a split second think the pussy is worth more than it is.
But for the last 14 years I have been paying the same $125/ month for my place in Thailand. I have given the taxis the same $30 back and forth from the airport. I am giving chicks the same $30 for all night and sometimes I bump it up to $35.
Now some things have gone up. For instance it used to take $4 to fill up my scooter, but these days it takes $5. It used to cost $2 to wash it, but now it costs $2. 30. Even the little pick up truck buses here that take you around have been 30 cent forever. I vaguely think it was 15 cent when I first started coming 18 years ago but I could be wrong and it may have been the same 30 cent all along. There is absolutely nothing around here that has come close to doubling in price as the prices at gogos would have you believe. When shit goes up around here it is a subtle 10 or 15 cents, not $100.
Its been 50 euros for a 30 minute session for over 15 years. What does 50 euros even buy you these days? Is everyone still earning what they earned 15 years ago?
They are not working a production line or retail job, they are selling their bodies and taking loads from men they often do not find attractive at all, and still put on some sort of show. This is a profession that takes a serious toll on all women too and the time they can earn is quite short.
As always the market will set the price. If the women at the FKK's in Germany or Gogos in Thailand are overcharging compared to other options are in the same city, then eventually they will have to adjust too. Prices are going up everywhere though, its not just one country. Inflation is real and the hookers live in the same world we do.You didn't say one thing that justifies a 100% increase. Absolutely nothing. I didn't say no increase was justified. But 100% is outrageous and unacceptable. Take a look at the Sharks thread these days. The law of supply and demand at work. Just say no!
Well it is exactly as you and Rak have said. It is pretty much greed and gogo bars where you see the price increase ridiculously. ...It's the higher price places, not just gogo. It's the way they add on many other requirements. BF has increased, then there maybe minimum drink order, all these add up.
Comparing TF to gogo is not a fair comparison. You have to compare to the price of TF in the past.
Vagabundo1
03-24-23, 16:35
Though with Michelle Noemie Bilas Obama I was all creampie all the time, 4 x on average pernoite, which was weekly, in Motel Lips in Centro in a suite with hidromassagem. I have some pictures around somewhere.
To paraphrase the former chief executive of estados unidos (slightly edited), while looking into the camera and shaking my finger, "I did have sex with that woman".
My fellow Rabbi -- you sir are a mfkin literary genius!
RakSopheni
03-24-23, 17:00
The point I am making is that Brazil is not expensive. Price wise its on par with Thailand, which is considered one of the cheaper destinations in the world with a large a large, well organizes sex industry. The girls in Brazil are not the only ones pushing prices up, everyone around the world is as they deal with inflation too. Where Brazil is an absolute home run is that not only is the cost reasonable and the industry large, Brazilian women are WAY more attractive on average and they also outfuck the Thai women.I'd mostly agree with the first part but I do think Thailand has an edge in terms of ease and options. I like Brazilian girls too but if you like slim girls and are nor fixated in bunda, Thailand also has the edge. It's harder to find BBFSCIP in Brazil, but I will concede that Brazilian service is unparalleled. All comes down to what you prefer personally.
I... It's harder to find BBFSCIP in Brazil....It's only harder from the girls in the club. This girl teased me after.
RakSopheni
03-24-23, 20:23
Where Philippines shines is if you are on the ground for a long time. You don't focus on the bar girls and pros, you focus on the semi pros, regular girls and the ones who want to find a sugar daddy. That gives you access to the top 1%-2% of Filipina women, and those women are something else.This is absolutely true but also requires a longer time commitment, 1-2 months max. Filipinas from PL, SA and Tinder are notorious for agreeing to meet and then not showing up, etc so there is a time sink that requires a longer stay.
Apologies to all about getting off topic in the Rio thread.
Eszpresszo
03-24-23, 22:03
Apologies to all about getting off topic in the Rio thread.Well, its to be expected when you get a bunch of people who have never been to Brazil in the first place gathered in a conversation about it.
BTW I will be in Rio for a concert at Circo Voador on Saturday night, March 25, and will be staying in Lapa (Ick!) until Tuesday morning. Any real mongers in Rio want to meet up for a drink or some coffee? Shoot me a PM.
Pahllus Maximus
03-25-23, 01:18
WayneRoberts and others provided great info on LOS and PH prices. BR is the go to, but don't overlook eastern europe. The usual rules, avoid tourist traps like GoGo bars, and yes the PH is a depressing shithole. I agree that BR girls are better looking, way more variety and better in bed.
Brazil is a great place for many reasons. It's currency is severely undervalued. It's people are nice and it has an educated population and 1st world health care system if you need it. Housing is cheap for gringos, provided you stay away from the crowded tourist traps. Food wise the restaurants are stingy with vegetables, it follows a cultural thing from what I can tell. Get put of the tourist traps and the solid upper middle class residential places, I've covered a few spots my last posts, including the right ingredients (Cachaça) for a caipirinha.
Or get an apartment, a frypan, shop for fresh food and cook. I have my own place up in the hills and even my own vege garden. It took a lot of effort to source farmers markets and a trusted chain of organic food, some it distant I have sent as freight. This is to make sure the girls get quality BBJCIM, a small sacrifice on my part. By my estimates, I have total sexual satisfaction and massages for at a median of under $USD 300 a week. USA is a rip-off on every metric. There are direct and cheap flights from BR to Europe for a change in scenery and winter sports.
Vagabundo1
03-25-23, 01:56
What is your recommendation for healthcare for long term ex pats.
I am looking for a primary care for colonoscopy and gastro pain screening in particular now, but general preventative healthcare in general going forward.
I have been recommended health plans here some which price out at 2000 r or so per month. I forget the brand names, but they have a few in the basement of guanabarra shoor ppping.
Also how is the property purchase working? Any regrets or pros and cons.
Pm me directly if you like.
It's people are nice and it has an educated population and 1st world health care system if you need it. Housing is cheap for gringos, provided you stay away from the crowded tourist traps. Food wise the restaurants are stingy with vegetables, it follows a cultural thing from what I can tell. Get put of the tourist traps and the solid upper middle class residential places, I've covered a few spots my last posts, including the right ingredients (Cachaa) for a caipirinha
Brazil is a great place for many reasons. It's people are nice and it has an educated population...Educated population? Brazil's main problem is the lack of education. Education in school to improve their chances of getting better jobs and get out of poverty, and also behavioral education to learn good manners. The average brazilian throws litter everywhere, doesn't respects queues, speaks too loud, always comes late, cough and sneeze in open air and misbehaves in traffic.
Vagabundo1
03-25-23, 11:45
Michelle Noemie Bilas Obama in the Hidromassagem at Motel Lips.
And to answer the inevitable question, no Rabbi Vagabundo does not pimp out his harem, but he is glad to lead the faithful to where Michelle Obama can be found, that is the darkside and centro trash termas like 116 the former secret terma, and all the other little hole in the all prives, and boates around 116, around the corner, down the street, etc, etc. Join me for a prive / terma run in centro at Cinelandia starbucks one day and we will find many like her for the cost of walking 10 kilometers, which is healthy for a man, anyway.
If you are looking for a few good negras, they are easy to find here or on gparena.net. For example, rebecca at Darkroom.com.br.
The cost for the suite with hidro was 140 r for 12 hours. A picture is worth a thousand words. Nothing like the feeling of that hidro on the legs and feet and the FLOTUS doppelganger gagging and willing to give up all her holes for creampies on demand all night, at zero dark thirty when wood is had, and a negra pussy is there for a good ride of another half hour for a total of 3 or 4 hours of hotbox yoga cardio.
Bring weed for the girls who being 20 eat endless lips burgers, which is not healthy for a man who biologically could be her grandfather.
As for Rabbinical references to bloodlines, see The Red Tent for a inside the working girl house literary work of women who are wives, concubines, daughters, etc.
Mr Enternational
03-25-23, 14:53
Educated population? Brazil's main problem is the lack of education.Everything is relative. Take a trip to the Dominican Republic and you will have a whole new outlook and respect for Brazil's educated population. The people in Brazil are in general light years ahead of other Latin American countries.
Vagabundo1
03-25-23, 14:54
Brazil along with EUA has the highest GINI index, which is the spread between rich and poor.
At the high end, the Brazilian ruling class seems to have good education like the federal universities and the high end religious schools, but from what I understand, the problem is getting in which means standardized testing like the American SATs.
Anyway, I don't disagree with senor sperto who is always correct, but I just throw in my dois centavos. Senor Sperto certainly has more experience in Brazil than anyone on this board, and senor PM, whose sophisticated economic insights are a welcome change from the usual chatter about repetitive topics.
Educated population? Brazil's main problem is the lack of education. Education in school to improve their chances of getting better jobs and get out of poverty, and also behavioral education to learn good manners. The average Brazilian throws litter everywhere, doesn't respects queues, speaks too loud, always comes late, cough and sneeze in open air and misbehaves in traffic.
Pahllus Maximus
03-26-23, 03:18
I should have qualified that. Sperto is correct, but what he describes also applies to the USA: idiotic tribal / cultural wars rather than economically rational choices and critical thinking skills. Widespread ignorance, insincerity, lack of manners and get rich quick mentality. Now there is grammerly for those who cannot spell* or learn grammar I learned in grade 3 at age 8. As for reading a map or counting back change, good luck.
I expect this is true anywhere. After all, modern crony capitalism is a sheep and a wolf. Liberty is a well armed sheep (ie: critical thinking, fiscally conservative and self disciplined) and a wolf. Yet Brazilians I encountered were genuinely nice and had a sense of family and community, notwithstanding being chaotic at the edges. I'd rather have heart than shrewd, well mannered cunning and smooth talkers. Vagabundo's
Michelle Obama picture looks delicious. All holes available and skilled at BBJCIM.
BR has a huge choice of beautiful young women in all shapes and colors delivered with passion and all at a fair price. BR healthcare is like anywhere: doctors work as information silos and try to push unnecessary or harmful services and drugs they get a de facto commission for. They are business people, not some white coat priest looking out for you. You have to take care of yourself and spend a lot of time studying biochemistry and looking after your own health, starting with nutrition and exercise. There is no pill for decades of neglect. BR drug prices are fair and doctors are quite affordable to pay out of pocket.
The USA has us brainwashed to get health insurance or else.
* lots of mangled sentences last posting. No excuse, it was 3 am and I was careless.
Is Easter big holiday in Brazil? I plan on going on around Easter.
Are spots open in Rio during Easter weekend (Friday, Saturday)? I plan on going on around Easter.
Vagabundo1
03-27-23, 12:44
The week in baseball.
So, last week, I guess I fucked 8 to 10 times.
Saturday, the sabbath, we the faithful worshipped at the centro prives. I went there with a fellow ISGer. Nani, Monique were at Emporio. But we went down to second floor. I picked marina, a nice negra, and my wingman picked a petite and hot morena. Emporio has good quality. I had fucked a regular already in the morning. She comes by 4 pernoites / perdias for 800 reais.
So then we went over to Darkroom.
We then picked our girl, or in our case, I picked Laila -- Layla, you got me down on my knees. We 69 ed, fucked in all positions. The cost in Emporio and in Darkroom is 100 for a half hour.
Then we walked over to Lapa to bar do peixe which is excellent. Cheap too, 80 r for food for two.
Then another ISGer joined us (send me a PM to be added to the whatsapp group).
We took an uber over to Motel Malaga, where he is staying. He has a suite with hidro and sauna for 330 r a day. He actually likes living in Malaga, as I did in 2013. I highly recommend this. Malaga is a great base of operation, easy walk to VM, and to massagemtijuca and the tijuca prives. Indeed, Tijuca is a good 'hood, middle class, one has to be a good jew observent of all the rules, and to make friends, but obviously much cheaper. Let's put it this way, the manager of 4 x4, Vitor Ribeiro, lives in Tijuca in a 4 bedroom place he pays 5000 r a month for, with his harem. So there it is.
We had some drinks only at Aconchega Carioca, which is a great restaurant and pricier.
Sunday, and a few other days, I had a regular, Nina DePonca come over with her big tits, big mulata tits, and she gives great massages, and I have her well trained as a submissive concubine. I pay her 300 r for 4 hours of unlimited suck fuck deep tissue massage.
We took an uber over to Motel Malaga, where he is staying. He has a suite with hidro and sauna for 330 r a day. He actually likes living in Malaga, as I did in 2013. I highly recommend this. Malaga is a great base of operation, easy walk to VM, and to massagemtijuca and the tijuca prives. Indeed, Tijuca is a good 'hood, middle class, one has to be a good jew observent of all the rules, and to make friends, but obviously much cheaper. Let's put it this way, the manager of 4 x4, Vitor Ribeiro, lives in Tijuca in a 4 bedroom place he pays 5000 r a month for, with his harem. So there it is..Great report man!
AlwaysHorny 2
03-28-23, 11:58
Exiting customs at GiG, made my way past the touts only to get ripped off by one outside. He is a short, frail, older man. Got him to agree to 100 real. No problem. I had no cash, no real, and I couldn't see any atms. Sorry, I didn't RTFF.
He accepted cards and was selling SIM cards. Verizon charges 10/ day. His sim price was 80 real /16 us. I had paid 10 us in Thailand so I didn't care about paying a little extra because I needed to desperately check some emails.
Anyway, this mf told the driver 260 all in. I found out when I checked my card charges online.
Beware of the BS at the airport. Already, I'm pissed about allowing myself to get played. That's cool. I'm on full alert now.
Mr Enternational
03-28-23, 13:09
Exiting customs at GiG, made my way past the touts only to get ripped off by one outside. He is a short, frail, older man. Got him to agree to 100 real. Anyway, this mf told the driver 260 all in.You got him to agree to 100 reais for what? 260 all in? 260 for what? What does all in mean? A SIM card costs 10 reais. In Thailand a SIM card is less than $1.
SoberHans69
03-28-23, 19:00
There used to be a website where you could see pictures of the 4 x 4 girls, think it was different to their main site. Does anyone have a link for this or was that section removed?
AlwaysHorny 2
03-28-23, 19:09
You got him to agree to 100 reais for what? 260 all in? 260 for what? What does all in mean? A SIM card costs 10 reais. In Thailand a SIM card is less than $1.100 reais was for the taxi to Copa. I was good with that.
The sim was 80 reais. That was already I rip off, but he added 80 more reais when my card was charged.
BTW, my sim in BKK from the mall was 300 baht with data.
Exiting customs at GiG, made my way past the touts only to get ripped off by one outside. He is a short, frail, older man. Got him to agree to 100 real. No problem. I had no cash, no real, and I couldn't see any atms. Sorry, I didn't RTFF.
He accepted cards and was selling SIM cards. Verizon charges 10/ day. His sim price was 80 real /16 us. I had paid 10 us in Thailand so I didn't care about paying a little extra because I needed to desperately check some emails.
Anyway, this mf told the driver 260 all in. I found out when I checked my card charges online.
Beware of the BS at the airport. Already, I'm pissed about allowing myself to get played. That's cool. I'm on full alert now.The GIG WiFi didn't work on my phone when I landed, so no Uber. Interestingly, it worked fine on the departure day.
I was on the departure floor, so got out and got immediately accosted by a cabby who was about to head back to his car probably after just dropping off a fare. He wanted 150 to Barra Hyatt. I countered with 80. We had a few laughs, he agreed to 110. I wasn't in the mood to waste any more precious vacation time to save $2-3, so off we go. On the way there, he begged me to let him fill up on the way. Managed to steal about 15 minutes of my time, LOL.
I tell you this: I would happily pay 80 reais to buy a SIM card at GIG to avoid a trip to a store and wasting another 1-2 hours of my life. Getting a SIM card in BarraShopping was relatively painless for me this time, but if time is money, then it's twice so on vacation. You shouldn't feel bad about it.
That said, if I were you, I'd totally dispute that 260 reais BS with the card issuer. That's fraud, pure and simple.
Stinky Squid
03-29-23, 00:14
Exiting customs at GiG, made my way past the touts only to get ripped off by one outside. He is a short, frail, older man. Got him to agree to 100 real. No problem. I had no cash, no real, and I couldn't see any atms. Sorry, I didn't RTFF.
He accepted cards and was selling SIM cards. Verizon charges 10/ day. His sim price was 80 real /16 us. I had paid 10 us in Thailand so I didn't care about paying a little extra because I needed to desperately check some emails.
Anyway, this mf told the driver 260 all in. I found out when I checked my card charges online.
Beware of the BS at the airport. Already, I'm pissed about allowing myself to get played. That's cool. I'm on full alert now.You always need to give yourself more time before you exit the airport. Always first find the ATM (s), there always are ATMs in airports. In GIG they are upstairs, ask and you shall find.
Then, if you have no SIM card yet, you can use airport WiFi to get your Uber. I don't bother with taxis, they are such liars and rip-offs. The best I'll do is the 99 app which is common in Brazil and useful as a backup when Uber croaks as it often does, randomly.
As for SIM cards it can be a bit tricky in Brazil, because you'll have to put a CPF and perhaps RG in to enable them. I remember on my first ever arrival in Brazil, I got a TIM SIM card and I actually had to find a fake CPF on the internet to enable my internet on that SIM card. But on the street you can by ready to go SIM cards also. They should be around 5 or 15 reais. I usually charge with 100 reais at any pharmacy. Since I have a CPF and my number for over 10 years now, I don't have recent experience with getting started from scratch. On first arrival in Brazil, I would agree, SIM card is the biggest problem. (As opposed to Thailand where you have several SIM card stands in the airport, and the 90 day unlimited internet of Dtac was just 900 baht, that is amazing value for money.).
So therefore, always take ample time at the airport, use the free WiFi when it exists and get your Uber organized. Once you are outside, you're on your own and subject to lots of cheats. Brazilian taxi dudes are scoundrels. They rip off little old ladies all the time, it's not just the gringo who gets screwed.
Stinky Squid
03-29-23, 00:21
Malaga is a great base of operation, easy walk to VMI'm curious about VM. Long time ago it was said it was the lowest of the places. Now recently I heard more about specific bars there. I had driven through by car many years ago and didn't see much. Can you give more of a run-down how it is there, were specifically to go? I have been in Malaga too a couple of times. Only slightly sketchy neighborhood. But for access to VM probably the best base.
Stinky Squid
03-29-23, 00:37
What is your recommendation for healthcare for long term ex pats.
I am looking for a primary care for colonoscopy and gastro pain screening in particular now, but general preventative healthcare in general going forward.
I have been recommended health plans here some which price out at 2000 r or so per month. I forget the brand names, but they have a few in the basement of guanabarra shoor ppping.
Also how is the property purchase working? Any regrets or pros and cons.
Pm me directly if you like.I thought you were a Brazil specialist?
I do all health care out of pocket. My colonoscopy I did in Colombia, Bogota. I find healthcare services are a bit more expensive in Brazil, so I do health care work in Colombia or India. This is why I don't have insurance, for over 10 years, because I can so much easier do things I need in these two countries and it is cheaper than paying those rip-off premiums.
Health plans in Brazil are -- as most things -- very bureaucratic. Early in the CoViD outbreak, we tried to sneak into some health plans quickly, but they required we show our SUS card, and to get a SUS card is next to impossible, not because you're not eligible, but because you have to show proof of residence and bullshit like this, and even then it takes years for them to visit you to enroll you. Just forget it. The good thing in Brazil is, if you really have some terminal or cancerous or even hepatitis see shit that requires long term costly treatment, you could still do it at the SUS. But for the simple stuff, just go private and have it done. I do my own lab checkups in low-bureaucracy labs (that don't need prescriptions).
Property purchase: first you need a CPF. Then you need to make sure you always research the property ownership history, the matricula, and you need to get all the certidoes negativas of all the sellers, check seller family status, if it is anything related to inheritance it can become a nightmare. Sometimes you buy stuff as posse, meaning there is no title. Stuff in communidades (encroachments) have no title. In general, you just have to contemplate what property ownership means on a deep level. Don't just believe in the magic fairy-dust of signed and stamped papers. Know the place, know who might come and claim some right to it, know the seller, etc. Etc. If you have a clean title sale, you do an escritura publica. In fact you must do an escritura publica, a simple private purchase and sales contract may condemn you to do usucapiao in the future to get a proper registration in the registro de imoveis. Once you have the escritura, where you have to pay the ITBI (real estate transfer taxes) you go to the registro de immoveis, where they might again fuzz about something lacking in the escritura and you might get a run-around. Better to do that right away and work it out with the seller.
Stinky Squid
03-29-23, 01:07
Recreio is far but actually quite enjoyable. The beach has some good surf spots. It is, however, not clean as I had recently experienced. I say Barra somewhere in the middle was the cleanest. But anyway, what I like about Recreio is the "communidade" style living, I. E. , lots of small shops everywhere, you can get everywhere on foot. Barra on the other hand is a suburbial wasteland. And while Copacabana is a mixed urban neighborhood, the communidade style of Recreio is just more personal and lively, even though you might find it a bit scary if you think "favela".
Now the service provider scene is not bad at all. I see a lot of decent offerings, and I just was with a certain Nanda who promises a Facefuck (not Nanda Facefuck of the Centro, who I ended up always missing out on). This Nanda was quite alright. It was nice to be sure to talk with her directly, not with some middle-man. It was in an apartment building on Gilka Machado, number 97 (the numbering is totally weird on that road). As I waited for her to come down and open the main door, I saw 2 pretty chicks come out. Then I saw one more. I think there are several apartments there. If I didn't have my GF over tomorrow night I would try a few more options, I have a lot of confidence that they turn out true too.
I will also now give away the two places in Jacarepagua, one is in Verano Stay, Rua Escultor Camargo number 50. They don't treat their girls particularly well, but I feel they have nice ones and their pictures they post are not too far from the truth. Anyway, I found a really sweet girl there who I stole away from the place, so now I probably fell in disgrace with them anyway.
The other place that I tried all the girls of one week was in Rua Geminiano Goes 975. This is a bit difficult to reach. I found every girl there was about what I could expect from the photos. Of course the personality of each is different and I had it good with two of the 4 I tried, while the other 2 were not false, I just didn't have great chemistry with them. I guess unless you are in Jacarepagua anyway it might not be worth going there as you have other options, but it's an option if you are there. The nice thing about that place is that it is a true 24 hours place, that is, any time of day and night, morning and Sundays, you can message and while you're not talking with the girl, the dude will wake her up and call her to duty if she is not otherwise busy. 120 the hour is definitely not too much.
I do all health care out of pocket. My colonoscopy I did in Colombia, Bogota. I find healthcare services are a bit more expensive in Brazil, so I do health care work in Colombia or India. This is why I don't have insurance, for over 10 years, because I can so much easier do things I need in these two countries and it is cheaper than paying those rip-off premiums.
And God forbid what if you find that you have colon cancer? Are you going to pay for the cost of treatment out-of-pocket too? I have no idea how much that would cost in India, Colombia, or Brazil, but I do know that going out-of-pocket for a serious illness in the States bankrupts many a family. The premiums can be stiff yes, but the total bill is even worse, so I keep my insurance!
Pahllus Maximus
03-29-23, 05:49
Mr. Squid is completely correct. Bits of paper about land are just that. Property is the ability to call the cops to remove anyone you don't like* and exclusively occupy whilst you are the owner. Even that is subject to endless claims (especially in the USA) by anything from tax liens to bullshit lawsuits (especially in the USA where lawyers are legally able (and encouraged by the judiciary) to charge a commission on bullshit claims).
The better way is to pay the $ to good lawyers and own via a corporation, nominees, and various asset protection devices. Don't be a cheap charlie: the entire system exists to fleece people except for banks who are not only protected and make the laws to suit themselves but are are immune from folly and 99% of the time able to be bailed out.
He is also correct about paying out of pocket ad hoc. Most doctors operate in an information silo and do not have a holistic picture. Many are out of date or ignorant of other countries where certain drugs and treatments are available (or don't say to protect their meal ticket). They spread fear, doubt and uncertainty to protect their franchise, especially medical tourism (competition). This requires you to spend a fair bit of time to learn biochemistry, anatomy, do exercise etc. There is no set and forget, outsourcing your care or a magic pill. Drug prices in Brazil and India are a fraction of the price in the USA and its made up numbers.
The Rabbi would be proud of Vagabundo. Reminds me of an old Frank Zappa song "Jewish Princess". The big tits deep tissue massage lady to relive stiffness and swelling sounds like just the ticket after my Bill Clinton oval office re-eanctment with the Michell Obama doppleganger.
* Does not apply to woke cities in USA. May not work in certain local political franchises or corruption. Check local conditions. Other exclusions and exceptions may apply.
Vagabundo1
03-29-23, 12:29
As I cover in the most recent update to BUbba Boy's guide, one can get a sim WITHOUT CPF by going to central station for 10 r for claro, 16 for VIVO (better internet).
PM me to be added to whatsapp group.
You always need to give yourself more time before you exit the airport. Always first find the ATM (s), there always are ATMs in airports. In GIG they are upstairs, ask and you shall find.
Then, if you have no SIM card yet, you can use airport WiFi to get your Uber. I don't bother with taxis, they are such liars and rip-offs. The best I'll do is the 99 app which is common in Brazil and useful as a backup when Uber croaks as it often does, randomly.
As for SIM cards it can be a bit tricky in Brazil, because you'll have to put a CPF and perhaps RG in to enable them. I remember on my first ever arrival in Brazil, I got a TIM SIM card and I actually had to find a fake CPF on the internet to enable my internet on that SIM card. But on the street you can by ready to go SIM cards also. They should be around 5 or 15 reais. I usually charge with 100 reais at any pharmacy. Since I have a CPF and my number for over 10 years now, I don't have recent experience with getting started from scratch. On first arrival in Brazil, I would agree, SIM card is the biggest problem. (As opposed to Thailand where you have several SIM card stands in the airport, and the 90 day unlimited internet of Dtac was just 900 baht, that is amazing value for money.).
So therefore, always take ample time at the airport, use the free WiFi when it exists and get your Uber organized. Once you are outside, you're on your own and subject to lots of cheats. Brazilian taxi dudes are scoundrels. They rip off little old ladies all the time, it's not just the gringo who gets screwed.
Vagabundo1
03-29-23, 12:52
Senor squid,
Obrigado.
I am fully covered as a lieutenant commander, SWISS NAVY, Retired in Lugano, but the Italian Mafia has been hunting my family for generations after we got Pope Pius laid with a cheap Sicilian hooker and had to whack the broad in a boat off of lake Como, so here I sit, in Barra, where I am waiting for the paperwork from some insufferable Chinese MD ***** in Lugano to reimburse me for a colonoscopy, which at the age of 74 I am told I should get, along 36 months of Viagra, two per month, along with the ambien, adderal, and medical marijuana, the good stuff that comes in up the asses of Brazilian porn stars on the United Flight out of Dallas every week, you know the ones, right?
Anyway, I have gone to the UPA with Nina Deponca who in addition to taking my 21 uncut centimeters of German Italian Asian bratwurst up her ass on order also speaks good Portoguese, English, Romanch, French, Italian, German, and who got me in front of a doctor to get referrals for colonscopy, endoscopy, and various related insults to my aging manhood. I never had so much as a working girl's tongue up my virgin asshole before the age of 54, and I still recoil from the thought of some person sticking a camera up my ass even if it is a life saving measure. I insist on having a full nursing staff of 4 x4 tier 1 nurses to feed me ketamine off of their lactating breasts with some po branca on order to revive me as the procedure is done. I have to date taken care of my Roman emporer (Caligula was my great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grteat great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather, and I am told he and his cousins took great pleasure in nailing that bastard jew jesus to the cross personally along with their commanders, just for the fun of it, which is of note to me me now as I am converting to Judaism, and have only gotten as far as Genesis books 36 and 37, for the pornographic story of Joseph and the dream coat, which I will recite in Hebrew at temple next to the supermarket in Barra, that's all I can say, you know the Jihadis would love to blow up another temple here in SOUTHCOM).
I will quite my kvetching, and come to the point. It would cost $525 USD to get the colonoscopy, which translates from 2100 r and 525 r and 80 r for each biopsia over at the lab headquarters at Av. Armando Lombardi, 1000 - Barra the Tijuca, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22640-000.
I would rather spend the $525 over at 4 x4 or VM giving young 18 year old Brazilian women colonoscopies with my Rocco-esque bratwurst, which is uncut, and will remain so, even if I get a bar mitzvah (the jewish women say it is better for the anal, for which they pay me extra, and being a good Jew, I never turn down another $500 r per hour for my go go boy MD services).
I digress. I am a Jew. Almost. I slept badly due to bad dreams about the Mafia coming over lake como with their brazilian strippers spread eagled with their asses with buttplugs asking me to fuck them in the ass like Annette Schwartz, who being a German speaks just like my sainted mother. I must get into see Doctor Freud, but at this point, he just keeps sending me to VM to find a blond to fuck up the ass.
Property? You are a genius. Economist.com says one should just rent, and I concur.
/ s / Johan Sebastian Von Vagabundo, IV, Lieutenant Commander, SWISS NAVY, Retired, Pagan Chaplain to the Rio de Janeiro Fire Department, at your service.
I thought you were a Brazil specialist?
I do all health care out of pocket. My colonoscopy I did in Colombia, Bogota. I find healthcare services are a bit more expensive in Brazil, so I do health care work in Colombia or India. This is why I don't have insurance, for over 10 years, because I can so much easier do things I need in these two countries and it is cheaper than paying those rip-off premiums.
Health plans in Brazil are -- as most things -- very bureaucratic. Early in the CoViD outbreak, we tried to sneak into some health plans quickly, but they required we show our SUS card, and to get a SUS card is next to impossible, not because you're not eligible, but because you have to show proof of residence and bullshit like this, and even then it takes years for them to visit you to enroll you. Just forget it. The good thing in Brazil is, if you really have some terminal or cancerous or even hepatitis see shit that requires long term costly treatment, you could still do it at the SUS. But for the simple stuff, just go private and have it done. I do my own lab checkups in low-bureaucracy labs (that don't need prescriptions).
Property purchase: first you need a CPF. Then you need to make sure you always research the property ownership history, the matricula, and you need to get all the certidoes negativas of all the sellers, check seller family status, if it is anything related to inheritance it can become a nightmare. Sometimes you buy stuff as posse, meaning there is no title. Stuff in communidades (encroachments) have no title. In general, you just have to contemplate what property ownership means on a deep level. Don't just believe in the magic fairy-dust of signed and stamped papers. Know the place, know who might come and claim some right to it, know the seller, etc. Etc. If you have a clean title sale, you do an escritura publica. In fact you must do an escritura publica, a simple private purchase and sales contract may condemn you to do usucapiao in the future to get a proper registration in the registro de imoveis. Once you have the escritura, where you have to pay the ITBI (real estate transfer taxes) you go to the registro de immoveis, where they might again fuzz about something lacking in the escritura and you might get a run-around. Better to do that right away and work it out with the seller.
Vagabundo1
03-29-23, 12:59
This should go on reports of distinction for Recreio and Jacaparagua, which are home to Renzo Gracie, Paptinho and OGlobo studios, ie, the epicenter culturally of Brazil if the Swiss Government wants to take over Brazil, which it does, please don't cut and paste this to any law enforcement or intelligence agencies. Thanks.
I had tried to check out that Gilka Machado 97 for prives with a ISGer. It was based on some local boards. Since we both trained martial arts, we were confident walking about, but did not find the actual prive. There are obviously many providers, some on the trans side, walking up and down that Gilka Machado from Posto 12 to that address. Also in that area on the beach rood from Posto 10 to 11, one can find many SW, south east LA style, but these are white girls with big asses and 15,000 insta followers from some town out of rio picking up 150 r for an hour at a local motel. Have a uber driver take you.
Thanks for the intel. The Swiss Government will be glad to credit your account!
Recreio is far but actually quite enjoyable. The beach has some good surf spots. It is, however, not clean as I had recently experienced. I say Barra somewhere in the middle was the cleanest. But anyway, what I like about Recreio is the "communidade" style living, I. E. , lots of small shops everywhere, you can get everywhere on foot. Barra on the other hand is a suburbial wasteland. And while Copacabana is a mixed urban neighborhood, the communidade style of Recreio is just more personal and lively, even though you might find it a bit scary if you think "favela".
Now the service provider scene is not bad at all. I see a lot of decent offerings, and I just was with a certain Nanda who promises a Facefuck (not Nanda Facefuck of the Centro, who I ended up always missing out on). This Nanda was quite alright. It was nice to be sure to talk with her directly, not with some middle-man. It was in an apartment building on Gilka Machado, number 97 (the numbering is totally weird on that road). As I waited for her to come down and open the main door, I saw 2 pretty chicks come out. Then I saw one more. I think there are several apartments there. If I didn't have my GF over tomorrow night I would try a few more options, I have a lot of confidence that they turn out true too.
I will also now give away the two places in Jacarepagua, one is in Verano Stay, Rua Escultor Camargo number 50. They don't treat their girls particularly well, but I feel they have nice ones and their pictures they post are not too far from the truth. Anyway, I found a really sweet girl there who I stole away from the place, so now I probably fell in disgrace with them anyway.
The other place that I tried all the girls of one week was in Rua Geminiano Goes 975. This is a bit difficult to reach. I found every girl there was about what I could expect from the photos. Of course the personality of each is different and I had it good with two of the 4 I tried, while the other 2 were not false, I just didn't have great chemistry with them. I guess unless you are in Jacarepagua anyway it might not be worth going there as you have other options, but it's an option if you are there. The nice thing about that place is that it is a true 24 hours place, that is, any time of day and night, morning and Sundays, you can message and while you're not talking with the girl, the dude will wake her up and call her to duty if she is not otherwise busy. 120 the hour is definitely not too much.
Vagabundo1
03-29-23, 13:10
Senor PM,
I will have you know, good sir, that my bank has been engaged in years of litigation over the royalties from the Girls of VM and 4 x4, 13, since we used Zappa "Jewish Princess" as the soundtrack.
You can, though find the video up on the screens of the better adult porno theaters of Gavea, just $10 reais to enter, complete with rich Catholic princesses from the local university on order to milk your gringo sperm to pay tuition, books, and to tide them over with the protein injections.
https://youtu.be/BJd6zcLnuBs
I want a nasty little Jewish princess.
With long phony nails and a hairdo that rinses.
A horny little Jewish princess.
With a garlic aroma that could level Tacoma.
Lonely inside.
Well, she can swallow my pride.
I need a hairy little Jewish princess.
With a brand new nose, who knows where it goes.
I want a steamy little Jewish princess.
With over-worked gums, who squeaks when she cums.
I don't want no troll.
I just want a Yemenite hole.
I want a darling little Jewish princess.
Who don't know shit about cooking and is arrogant looking.
A vicious little Jewish princess.
To specifically happen with a pee-pee that's snappin.
All up inside.
I just want a princess to ride.
Awright, back to the top. Everybody twist.
I want a funky little Jewish princess.
A grinder; a bumper, with a pre-moistened dumper.
A brazen little Jewish princess.
With titanic tits, and sand-blasted zits.
She can even be poor.
So long as she does it with four on the floor.
(vapor-lock).
I want a dainty little Jewish princess.
With a couple of sisters who can raise a few blisters.
A fragile little Jewish princess.
With Roumanian thighs, who weasels and lies.
For two or three nights.
Won't someone send me a princess who bites.
Won't someone send me a princess who bites.
Won't someone send me a princess who bites.
Won't someone send me a princess who bites.
Mr. Squid is completely correct. Bits of paper about land are just that. Property is the ability to call the cops to remove anyone you don't like* and exclusively occupy whilst you are the owner. Even that is subject to endless claims (especially in the USA) by anything from tax liens to bullshit lawsuits (especially in the USA where lawyers are legally able (and encouraged by the judiciary) to charge a commission on bullshit claims).
The better way is to pay the $ to good lawyers and own via a corporation, nominees, and various asset protection devices. Don't be a cheap charlie: the entire system exists to fleece people except for banks who are not only protected and make the laws to suit themselves but are are immune from folly and 99% of the time able to be bailed out.
He is also correct about paying out of pocket ad hoc. Most doctors operate in an information silo and do not have a holistic picture. Many are out of date or ignorant of other countries where certain drugs and treatments are available (or don't say to protect their meal ticket). They spread fear, doubt and uncertainty to protect their franchise, especially medical tourism (competition). This requires you to spend a fair bit of time to learn biochemistry, anatomy, do exercise etc. There is no set and forget, outsourcing your care or a magic pill. Drug prices in Brazil and India are a fraction of the price in the USA and its made up numbers.
The Rabbi would be proud of Vagabundo. Reminds me of an old Frank Zappa song "Jewish Princess". The big tits deep tissue massage lady to relive stiffness and swelling sounds like just the ticket after my Bill Clinton oval office re-eanctment with the Michell Obama doppleganger.
* Does not apply to woke cities in USA. May not work in certain local political franchises or corruption. Check local conditions. Other exclusions and exceptions may apply.
AlwaysHorny 2
03-29-23, 14:07
Had dinner at the Deck last night. They have a buffet there. It's only 50 reais but a 10 reais surcharge if you pay with a card. The food was good and I left completely stuffed.
I sat there for some time sipping my water as the food digested. Decided I would see what Mab's is like. I got there about 10 pm. It was some good selections sitting and standing about. I saw a couple 7/8's, 1 "9", and the rest were average IMO.
I had a solid 7 option with one ridiculously soft ass that almost got me to pull the trigger. She quoted 500 reais for two hours. I tried to do only one hour, but she wanted two? I was tired from traveling and I wanted a quick f*ck if anything. She wouldn't give me her number, but told me to just meet her there today.
I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger. I see the better looking ones pop up from time to time. I assume they are quite busy and just returning from a trick. One girl quoted this UK guy 700 reais for one hour. He said she stood firm and would not negotiate. I tried in so many words to tell him that she simply didn't want him. She went back to standing by the big screen. I'll definitely watch the NCAA final four and championship there.
One thing I noticed is how the women are all smiles and flirts until you don't invite them over. It was good to talk with some other mongers, but I think I could get better and cheaper options elsewhere. With that said, if I'm not empty by the time I go tonight I might go with the woman from last night. Her personality was good and I think she'll screw my brains out. I don't care to pay a little more for good chemistry. Some of these stuck up 304's I would never choose. Seems like they think they are doing you a favor. I'm way past simply being with a chic because she looks good.
I sat there for some time sipping my water as the food digested. Decided I would see what Mab's is like. I got there about 10 pm. It was some good selections sitting and standing about. I saw a couple 7/8's, 1 "9", and the rest were average IMO.
I had a solid 7 option with one ridiculously soft ass that almost got me to pull the trigger. She quoted 500 reais for two hours. I tried to do only one hour, but she wanted two? I was tired from traveling and I wanted a quick f*ck if anything. She wouldn't give me her number, but told me to just meet her there today.
Before you pull the trigger, please confirm with her if the two hours is multiple nuts or not. That "500 R for 2 hours" tactic is a trick many of them use on gringos because once you cum, they get dressed to leave. They will say 2 hours hoping that you will Assume that you can bust as many times as you want during that time period.
And God forbid what if you find that you have colon cancer? Are you going to pay for the cost of treatment out-of-pocket too? I have no idea how much that would cost in India, Colombia, or Brazil, but I do know that going out-of-pocket for a serious illness in the States bankrupts many a family. The premiums can be stiff yes, but the total bill is even worse, so I keep my insurance!Like he said, Brazil has a universal health care system, so you can theoretically get the treatments you need for free in public hospitals and health care centers. What it means in practice in a poor country like Brazil I have no idea, so yes, unless one's from a rich European country or Canada, I would keep my insurance too.
Vagabundo1
03-30-23, 05:55
https://youtu.be/xUxQzVj1V4o
Senor squid,
Obrigado.
I am fully covered as a lieutenant commander, SWISS NAVY, Retired in Lugano, but the Italian Mafia has been hunting my family for generations after we got Pope Pius laid with a cheap Sicilian hooker and had to whack the broad in a boat off of lake Como, so here I sit, in Barra, where I am waiting for the paperwork from some insufferable Chinese MD ***** in Lugano to reimburse me for a colonoscopy, which at the age of 74 I am told I should get, along 36 months of Viagra, two per month, along with the ambien, adderal, and medical marijuana, the good stuff that comes in up the asses of Brazilian porn stars on the United Flight out of Dallas every week, you know the ones, right?
Anyway, I have gone to the UPA with Nina Deponca who in addition to taking my 21 uncut centimeters of German Italian Asian bratwurst up her ass on order also speaks good Portoguese, English, Romanch, French, Italian, German, and who got me in front of a doctor to get referrals for colonscopy, endoscopy, and various related insults to my aging manhood. I never had so much as a working girl's tongue up my virgin asshole before the age of 54, and I still recoil from the thought of some person sticking a camera up my ass even if it is a life saving measure. I insist on having a full nursing staff of 4 x4 tier 1 nurses to feed me ketamine off of their lactating breasts with some po branca on order to revive me as the procedure is done. I have to date taken care of my Roman emporer (Caligula was my great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grteat great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandfather, and I am told he and his cousins took great pleasure in nailing that bastard jew jesus to the cross personally along with their commanders, just for the fun of it, which is of note to me me now as I am converting to Judaism, and have only gotten as far as Genesis books 36 and 37, for the pornographic story of Joseph and the dream coat, which I will recite in Hebrew at temple next to the supermarket in Barra, that's all I can say, you know the Jihadis would love to blow up another temple here in SOUTHCOM).
I will quite my kvetching, and come to the point. It would cost $525 USD to get the colonoscopy, which translates from 2100 r and 525 r and 80 r for each biopsia over at the lab headquarters at Av. Armando Lombardi, 1000 - Barra the Tijuca, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 22640-000.
I would rather spend the $525 over at 4 x4 or VM giving young 18 year old Brazilian women colonoscopies with my Rocco-esque bratwurst, which is uncut, and will remain so, even if I get a bar mitzvah (the jewish women say it is better for the anal, for which they pay me extra, and being a good Jew, I never turn down another $500 r per hour for my go go boy MD services).
I digress. I am a Jew. Almost. I slept badly due to bad dreams about the Mafia coming over lake como with their brazilian strippers spread eagled with their asses with buttplugs asking me to fuck them in the ass like Annette Schwartz, who being a German speaks just like my sainted mother. I must get into see Doctor Freud, but at this point, he just keeps sending me to VM to find a blond to fuck up the ass.
Property? You are a genius. Economist.com says one should just rent, and I concur.
/ s / Johan Sebastian Von Vagabundo, IV, Lieutenant Commander, SWISS NAVY, Retired, Pagan Chaplain to the Rio de Janeiro Fire Department, at your service.
Hey fellas,
I'm comin to Rio in a week and am lookin to get 2-3 girls for my buddy's bachelor party. Ideally they are friends and will play well with each other, I'm thinkin of a lesbian show and lapdances etc. To get the party started and then take it from there.
I've been looking on some of the escort sites (barravip, private55, scortrio) and seems like there's some good talent but I was just wondering if anyone could recommend any girls, as with these types of events it's important that the girls have good vibes, can socialize, and aren't crazy (had some bad experiences LOL). English skills would be a nice bonus too.
Any help would be most appreciated.
Hey fellas,
I'm comin to Rio in a week and am lookin to get 2-3 girls for my buddy's bachelor party. Ideally they are friends and will play well with each other, I'm thinkin of a lesbian show and lapdances etc. To get the party started and then take it from there...It sounds like you want to have a VIP section like 4 x4 at your friend's place. I would go to 4 x4 to find and interview them.
Like he said, Brazil has a universal health care system, so you can theoretically get the treatments you need for free in public hospitals and health care centers. What it means in practice in a poor country like Brazil I have no idea, so yes, unless one's from a rich European country or Canada, I would keep my insurance too.I'll tell you what it means. When it comes to medical treatment for a serious illness what it means is that you're going to get what you pay for. Which, if it's free, is not likely to be the absolute best care available. Like in other countries with universal healthcare, ask upper middle class citizens and above how many of them rely only upon what's available for free. Hell a lot of them would be willing to leave their own countries to go somewhere else for treatment. I say if you can afford insurance then you should get it and avoid putting your hard earned wealth at risk. But if you can't afford it, then do what you can do, and be thankful if there are services available for free or at a very low cost.
It sounds like you want to have a VIP section like 4 x4 at your friend's place. I would go to 4 x4 to find and interview them.Unless a member here has some specific experience and recommendations, that is a great idea. Termas 4 x 4 has the sheer numbers and some true performers. My impression is that the most beautiful termas girls would generally not be interested in putting on a lesbian show or necessarily be great performers. That's just my impression. I would simply manage your expectations.
I think if you are looking for eager and aggressive performers you should find a 4 x 4 girl who knows some English that is into it. Like totally into it. Looking for a girl with those intangible leadership qualities within the termas harem helps a lot in corralling the other girls. Let her point out girls she knows who would be up for it and fun. This self-selection process almost insures some chemistry back at your place.
We've done festas this way and this almost always works out well. You only really need the leader to speak English. If you want sex, be upfront about how much time and how many guys. Don't assume they will fuck anyone and everyone.
AlwaysHorny 2
03-30-23, 22:07
Riding in an Uber, back to Copa. I'll use this downtime to share my experience. Let me just say this-I f*cking love walking around Centro. I wish I knew Porto on at least a basic level. I leaned some Spanish in high school and college. Although I don't use Spanish often, I can easily get comfortable enough for simple exchanges. Here, I feel like an idiot and barely want to speak at all. How am I supposed to try to pull a non-pro? It was several women walking around Centro that I would have loved to take a shot at.
To all potential newbies, try learn as much Porto as possible before coming here. Yes, imo it's that serious! Even if you leading with your wallet, I think it will only enhance the experience.
I had two bait and switch episodes from photoacompanhantes.com. One was yesterday in Copa, the one today was in Centro. The expectation of rain and thinking with the little head this morning was the reason for my misstep today. I wasn't all that bumped out. From the excellent intel in these pages, I had options. Went to the pharmacy and got 4 sidenfil tablets for 7 reais. Ate some crap Italian while I let the pill kick in and also walked around Centro. I found myself in some bustling outside market taking in the scenery. It's grimy af, but I enjoyed it. However, there is no way in hell I'm walking around there at night and I tend to intimidate many people because of my sheer size.
Anyway, I contacted the Darkroom. Their website has a link that automatically connects with WhatsApp. I got a reply with pictures and was told to stop by. I did not have an appointment. The line up was meh, but I settled on a dark skin, slightly taller chic with a nice little butt. The session was good. Just nothing earth shattering to share. She was nice though and took care of me. Mind blowing to be with a young babe like that for roughly $30.
I have a prearranged session tomorrow for 300 reais for two hours. I'm importing her in and paying the Uber. I noticed the best online chics are about an hour away in all directions. She is young and has the prettiest pussy I've ever seen. I can't help myself. I need to learn one more lesson! LOL I'm taking one for the team!
I have some leads from Tinder, but not sure if I'll follow up. Older, not as attractive as what I see on a daily, and I can't speak Porto so I might save myself the agony. I'm back in Copa at Drop coffee finishing this report as I sip my coffee and watch the passersby's. I got plenty of time here. My goal is find the one to have an experience that will last a lifetime. I'm hoping for some epic type shit!
UsaInEurope
03-31-23, 01:17
Good evening gents!
I'm finally flying in tomorrow! WHOO HOO! Staying right on the beach in Ipanema in a great airbnb with deck pool and girls allowed.
I'm there March 31-April 8. My target list is:
Saturday 4/1: Hit the beach (last hot day before fall) for a bit. Solarium late afternoon / early evening.
Sunday 4/2: Hiking Tijuca Forest & Horto Waterfalls Circuit Tour in the morning; expecting no scene but might hit a bar or get an online girl.
Monday 4/3: Maybe a prive in the morning; beach; 4 x4 or Solarium.
Tuesday 4/4: Rinse and repeat.
Wednesday 4/5: Might need another hike or other activity.
That's as far as I've gotten.
Anyone interested in girl hunting? Especially if you want to grab one and I grab one and we share a room. Love watching sex.
Steve 9696
03-31-23, 02:56
Good evening gents!
I'm finally flying in tomorrow! WHOO HOO! Staying right on the beach in Ipanema in a great airbnb with deck pool and girls allowed.
I'm there March 31-April 8. My target list is:
Saturday 4/1: Hit the beach (last hot day before fall) for a bit. Solarium late afternoon / early evening.
Sunday 4/2: Hiking Tijuca Forest & Horto Waterfalls Circuit Tour in the morning; expecting no scene but might hit a bar or get an online girl.
Monday 4/3: Maybe a prive in the morning; beach; 4 x4 or Solarium.
Tuesday 4/4: Rinse and repeat.
Wednesday 4/5: Might need another hike or other activity.
That's as far as I've gotten.
Anyone interested in girl hunting? Especially if you want to grab one and I grab one and we share a room. Love watching sex.If you like slim girls but with bunda you def need to check out Monte Carlo. See my recent report. If you go early like 3 you will have the whole lineup to choose from. I took five girls in two days. There is a small lineup but amazing quality.
Like he said, Brazil has a universal health care system, so you can theoretically get the treatments you need for free in public hospitals and health care centers. What it means in practice in a poor country like Brazil I have no idea, so yes, unless one's from a rich European country or Canada, I would keep my insurance too.It is not difficult to find out how good the system is. You only need to search the public hospitals on Google map and read the reviews.
Unless a member here has some specific experience and recommendations, that is a great idea. Termas 4 x 4 has the sheer numbers and some true performers. My impression is that the most beautiful termas girls would generally not be interested in putting on a lesbian show or necessarily be great performers. That's just my impression. I would simply manage your expectations.
I think if you are looking for eager and aggressive performers you should find a 4 x 4 girl who knows some English that is into it. Like totally into it. Looking for a girl with those intangible leadership qualities within the termas harem helps a lot in corralling the other girls. Let her point out girls she knows who would be up for it and fun. This self-selection process almost insures some chemistry back at your place.
We've done festas this way and this almost always works out well. You only really need the leader to speak English. If you want sex, be upfront about how much time and how many guys. Don't assume they will fuck anyone and everyone.Thank you kindly for the advice good sir and to Nounce as well.
Hi,
I will be in Rio from the 12th of April until the 16th of April if anyone wants to join for some hikes and ladies drop me private message.
Best,
Aviv.
UsaInEurope
03-31-23, 14:19
Thank you kindly for the advice good sir and to Nounce as well.Let's get a group of girls and have them all!
BigButtDetecto
04-01-23, 02:14
Thank you kindly for the advice good sir and to Nounce as well." Looking for a girl with those intangible leadership qualities within the termas harem helps a lot in corralling the other girls. ".
What does this mean inplain english?
SoberHans69
04-01-23, 06:50
Hi everyone,
Just wondering what Rio is like in July compared to other months?
I read that many Brazilians like to take holidays in July, will it be packed with Brazilian families?
Obrigado.
Hi everyone,
Just wondering what Rio is like in July compared to other months?
I read that many Brazilians like to take holidays in July, will it be packed with Brazilian families?.For me, the problem with Brazil during the summer months is that it's actually their winter down there. It can be cool and rainy which is not what I prefer when down there on vacation, especially if in a hotel that's not really able to accommodate that weather with proper heating. After going down there once in like the June / July timeframe I said I would not go at that time of year again. I prefer October through March or April for weather-related reasons.
UsaInEurope
04-01-23, 15:37
Arrived and got through customs quickly -- the lady kept eyeballing me and smiling. Very nice -- a lot better than stern dude staring me down. Plus she had nice cleavage and a button unbuttoned.
Staying in Ipanema and didn't get to my apartment until 7 pm or so. Hightailed it to 4 x4 and it's very easy as a lady at the counter spoke English. A few things I didn't see covered after I RTFF'd.
1) You do not need to show ID or passport to get in. I was worried about that after Santiago Chile and luckily I got in (I didn't bring it for safety reasons).
2) My car tried to let me out on the main street half a block down. No way, jose. I made him drive around for the 3-4 minutes to put me right in front. I probably would have been fine but it IS Rio. I also take Uber so I can track exactly where I'm going and there's a record of my existence on the route. Do not take taxis.
3) The locker lady is a bit, um, jaded. LOL. I didn't see any robes after standing in front of the lockers for a few minutes then went looking for them and got yelled at. Don't worry, she'll come with slippers and your robe.
4) The robes are NOT very big. I freeballed and kept falling out. I am not gordo. Maybe she just gave me a small size? I saw a very large guy with a robe that went around him. So maybe make sure it's big enough?
5) Anyway, freeballing made it VERY easy for the ladies to come up and just start stroking me while I'm sitting there oogling the women and drinking a beer. Kissing me on the lips and even chest / nipple suck. The guy to the right of me had 3 girls all tongue kissing each other all at the same time. You can pretty much do anything except fuck there.
6) Paranoid me -- I ordered beer at the bar and watched them open the top. No mixed drinks, nothing poured from a bottle (there was an open champagne bottle and other drinks passing around -- no way).
After enjoying the show, went to the room with Carla, a trim medium-dark Brazilian with kinky funky hair and a banging hard bubble butt. Prices are below. Perfect BBBJ. One of the best kissers I've ever encountered, professionally or girlfriend-ey. Very sweet girl and I loved her vibe -- not plastic / trashy / loud. Doesn't drink. Carries herself well. Got her # for Sunday.
Now it's Saturday morning and I'm going to try the Dark room Saturday Special as a solo gringo. Wish me luck!
Vagabond, anyone else, want to meet up for girls and a drink?
" Looking for a girl with those intangible leadership qualities within the termas harem helps a lot in corralling the other girls. ".
What does this mean in plain english?More in the context of my post, the best route is to find a girl at the termas who speaks English and has some influence with the other girls. Like in any group, certain people can organize the rest into action (leadership qualities). This girl can help you sort out and find other "performers". You tell her what you want. She can help with the translation and getting the girls to your place.
If a member here says he knows a hot girl who likes to perform lesbian shows, etc. And will bring three of her hot friends, this could be a good option. Barring that option, the above method is how we organize festas (sex parties). I think most of us here would advise against booking escorts independently with the hope there is chemistry between the girls when they meet each other.
UsaInEurope
04-01-23, 18:12
So I Ubered to Dark Room. A few tips:
You need to bring a copy of your passport. A photo on my phone worked fine. The front desk will give you an access card that you have to give back when you leave.
I felt safe walking around in daylight in the area -- lots of people, market going on, shops open. Be careful with your things for pickpocketing but seemed better than 4 x4 at night by a lot.
To get there you have to take the ele to 20 and then turn right, go down the first little hallway, open a door, go up the stairs 1 level, turn right. It'll be a black door w / DR on it.
Womp womp, closed. This was 11:30 am Saturday. I thought they had a Saturday Special going on.
Went through my notes and went down to 1417.
Gringo tax of 200 for an hour.
2 blondes and one mulatta available. Isis, someone else and Bruno (blonde). I went with Bruno who was wearing a doctor's smock and nothing underneath. She's also my perfect type -- thick but not fat / no cellulite / not huge wide hips, nice soft big butt, huge tits, big lips and loves to kiss. The nice thing is each girl used their phone to translate what they'll do without me asking.
So we strip naked and make out for a really long time. Super passionate and her soft body pressed against mine felt incredible.
Ate her out, BBBJ, the deed.
Took about the full hour.
She was super sweet after. Stayed a few minutes and then brought me a juice and helped me dress with a deep passionate kiss and touch as I left. Felt just like a girlfriend who liked me.
Got out of there around 1.
Now to siesta on the beach.
For me, the problem with Brazil during the summer months is that it's actually their winter down there. It can be cool and rainy which is not what I prefer when down there on vacation, especially if in a hotel that's not really able to accommodate that weather with proper heating. After going down there once in like the June / July timeframe I said I would not go at that time of year again. I prefer October through March or April for weather-related reasons.Maybe I've gotten lucky then.
I've been in Rio in June-Aug 2-3 times and don't remember serious raining. I do remember pleasant non-sweltering temps and I still enjoyed the beach. Evenings could be a little breezy, though, so I remember wearing a light shirt over a tee a couple of times. But again, it's just my experience.
6) Paranoid me -- I ordered beer at the bar and watched them open the top. No mixed drinks, nothing poured from a bottle (there was an open champagne bottle and other drinks passing around -- no way).Thanks for your report. There is no reason to be paranoid in any Termas in Rio. They won't poison your drink. Also a passport is not needed. That ID BS is just for a few Centro buildings.
UsaInEurope
04-02-23, 14:38
One more thing about 4 x4. Keep your receipt at the end to give to the guy outside.
SoberHans69
04-02-23, 16:51
For me, the problem with Brazil during the summer months is that it's actually their winter down there. It can be cool and rainy which is not what I prefer when down there on vacation, especially if in a hotel that's not really able to accommodate that weather with proper heating. After going down there once in like the June / July timeframe I said I would not go at that time of year again. I prefer October through March or April for weather-related reasons.Thanks for the reply.
Coming from northern England and being pale, I actually prefer the cooler weather.
Just booked flights for July, now the hard part, the waiting game.
UsaInEurope
04-04-23, 14:42
Day 3 was a Sunday so break day from the girls.
Day 4 - Monday. Went on an morning killer waterfall hike in the Tijuca national forest. Highly recommend.
Came back by noon and went to check out Eden Spa in Copa.
The lineup was incredible -- every height, weight, thickness, skin tone. Must have had 8 girls presented and I would have taken all of them.
I couldn't choose between a very tall modelesque black lady whose name began with a T (Tata? Toca? Something along those lines -- wait till she shows up on their site). Incredible body but very tall and wanted someone short and busty today.
Duda had ass for days and was about to take her then Suellen walked in.
Eye contact, said she kissed, great outfit, looked like she was 16. Super hot babyfat girl with it in all the right places.
Performance wasn't exactly as the presentation promised. Felt like it would be GFE but was PSE. Had to change style a little ways in from what I was feeling. That's one reason I like the Termas over apartments -- you can get a feel for chemistry for a bit before choosing. Here, you're choosing a body.
Body was just as great as I imagined -- her tan lines really did it for me. Fucking someone who looks too young (verified 18+ FYI) who everyone would stare at on the beach in her teeny bikini and having her for R220 (I paid by CC, cash might be cheaper) was awesome. Tried to tent me for the BJ but I said no and she gave a fantastic one including very careful and gentle ball sucking, licking under and even tossing my salad. Felt like a dirty daughter's friend sneaking in when nobody else was home to take care of daddy. Licked her (delicious) and did as many positions as we could until time ran out.
Much, much better lineup than 1417 and I loved those women.
There is no girl working here under a 7 for me. Blast away and I'm not going to argue who is a 6 to you is an 8 to me. I love women and think all of them (besides the obviously unattractive) have some assemblance of sexiness. The variety in any one club is mind blowing -- and that's from a world mongering expert.
Viva Rio!
That said, went to Mab's after for a drink -- wasn't expecting nor seeking working girls and there weren't any to be seen. But a nice strong Salinas Caipirinha right on the beach was a perfect relaxer after a perfect day.
Day 3 was a Sunday so break day from the girls.
Day 4 - Monday. Went on an morning killer waterfall hike in the Tijuca national forest. Highly recommend.
Came back by noon and went to check out Eden Spa in Copa.
The lineup was incredible -- every height, weight, thickness, skin tone. Must have had 8 girls presented and I would have taken all of them.
I couldn't choose between a very tall modelesque black lady whose name began with a T (Tata? Toca? Something along those lines -- wait till she shows up on their site). Incredible body but very tall and wanted someone short and busty today.
Duda had ass for days and was about to take her then Suellen walked in.
Eye contact, said she kissed, great outfit, looked like she was 16. Super hot babyfat girl with it in all the right places.
Performance wasn't exactly as the presentation promised. Felt like it would be GFE but was PSE. Had to change style a little ways in from what I was feeling. That's one reason I like the Termas over apartments -- you can get a feel for chemistry for a bit before choosing. Here, you're choosing a body.
Body was just as great as I imagined -- her tan lines really did it for me. Fucking someone who looks too young (verified 18+ FYI) who everyone would stare at on the beach in her teeny bikini and having her for R220 (I paid by CC, cash might be cheaper) was awesome. Tried to tent me for the BJ but I said no and she gave a fantastic one including very careful and gentle ball sucking, licking under and even tossing my salad. Felt like a dirty daughter's friend sneaking in when nobody else was home to take care of daddy. Licked her (delicious) and did as many positions as we could until time ran out.
Much, much better lineup than 417 and I loved those women.
There is no girl working here under a 7 for me. Blast away and I'm not going to argue who is a 6 to you is an 8 to me. I love women and think all of them (besides the obviously unattractive) have some assemblance of sexiness. The variety in any one club is mind blowing -- and that's from a world mongering expert.
Viva Rio!
That said, went to Mab's after for a drink -- wasn't expecting nor seeking working girls and there weren't any to be seen. But a nice strong Salinas Caipirinha right on the beach was a perfect relaxer after a perfect day.Thanks for sharing your experience! I just arrived in Rio and will be staying until April 8th AM.
Is it normal to recieve BBBJ in massages? Or they usually put some protection?
Does anybody have a recommendation besides 4 x4? I've read a lot about Centaurus, Monte Carlo and Solarium. I would be very thankfull to recieve any PM with info on specific girls with known performance to contact. Just trying to give the best possible use of my time in Rio. Thanks in advance to everyone wanting to share!!
Just got back from my favorite country. Took a quick side trip to Curitiba which I will write about in that section. I didn't visit any prives this trip, just termas. Most of the clubs are better than my visit last year. More girls in the clubs which in turn, means more selection for us. Here's my rundown.
4 x4. Liz and the girl who got away. 4 x4 was the first termas I visited this trip. Not the greatest lineup when I first got there but then again it was early. Around 16:30. A girl named Liz came to sit with me. She was small with big natural titties. Usually not my type, but she was cute and personable. After spending about ½ hour making out with her in the bar area we went up. This is when I saw a girl coming down, more my style. Tall, beautiful face, slim figure. Thought to myself to look for her after this session. The session with Liz was good but not great but this was my first so it was good to get it out of the way. I give Liz an overall score of be. Now the messed up part. As we were coming down, the mystery girl I saw while going up, she was now heading up with another customer. After seeing this, I went to the sauna room to relax a bit since I knew she would be a while before coming down. I was in the relax room for about ½ hour and I see she is getting her stuff from the lady. Mystery lady was going up again. Don't know what happened with the other guy. Went back down to the boate. Of course many girls were circling me like sharks. This one girl who had a beautiful face wanted to talk. I told her I was waiting for another girl. She said no problem she would leave when the other girl showed up. I bought her a drink and just talked a bit. Her name is Raquel. After she finished her drink, she asked if she could order another. I told her no and you should have seen how fast she left me. Glad I didn't take her up. A few minutes past and mystery girl walks in the door. I get up to fetch her but was too late. This girl is popular. I waited to see what happens and sure enough, they head upstairs. I decided to call it a night and seek her some other night.
I did go back on Friday March 31 to find the mystery girl but nooooo. I walk in and something is different. As I walk up the stairs, I hear no music. The receptionist gives me a key but as I walk to the locker room, the attendent is yelling a dude to get out. She told me I couldn't use the locker room either. Then a guy comes out and tells me they are having a problem and to wait in the boate. I go there and there is maybe five other guys there and no girls. I wait about 15 minutes and decide to bail. Then another guy tells me something broke and there is some kind of nasty smell going on. He tells me all the girls are downstairs. I go downstairs and there are some girls there. This is when it became surreal. A guy is carrying a girl who is unconscious, other girls running out with finger closing their nose. Then after a while, about ten girls rushed back to their locker room changed and left for home. I did see one girl just my type and I asked if she was coming back and she said no, to see her on Monday. Unfortunately I would be gone by then. I then go back up to reception and the lady there said it should be fixed shortly. I told her I'll be back. I paid the entrance of are $60. She told me to show her the receipt when I come back so the wouldn't double bill me. I walked to a hamburger place nearby. Order to go and ate it back in my room. I was going to go back to 4 x4 but fell asleep after eating. So the mystery girl will have to wait.
M / see Last year I was one of the guys who wrote how disappointing m / see was. Only 3 average girls and the best looking girl was the receptionist. Thanks to Steve's update, I returned and I agree, much much better. When checking in I asked the receptionist (not the same receptionist as last year) how many girls were working. She said it's a little early so there are only 10 girls here now and there should be 18 in total by the end of the night. Nice!
The first girl I took, sorry forgot her name was thicker than I usually take. Had a pretty face and the make-out session was good. I took her up and everything was good until I tried to suck her titties. She said she recently had a baby so milk was coming out and didn't want me to suck or touch her titties. Everything else was fine except for this so I gave her a score of be-, She should have told me before hand. Next up, a slim girl named Marrissa. In the boate she kissed just the way I like it. We go to the room and had a great time. I give her a solid be. I took points off because she is a smoker and every once in a while you could taste the smoke.
I would say this terma is back to pre pandemic level.
BA21. While walking around centro during the day I see this sign for the club. I walked in around 17:00. The entrance is are $10.00 and my water was are $10.00. The receptionist said ½ hour was are $110.00, are $150 for 40 minutes. Inside the boate were only 3 girls with one being occupied. The other two were average at best. One of the girls came to talk but I told her it was my first time there and just wanted to relax. I did ask her if more girls would be in and she said yes but didn't know what time the other girls would be in. The prices seem good and located near 4 x4 and 65, but if the quality doesn't get better, not sure if they will survive.
65 The lineup here has improved also. The bad news, not sure why but the music from the boate is so loud, it's annoying. I stayed in the whiskeria because of this. There were at least three girls I could have gone up with. On a side note, one girl looked almost like a she-male so if you are into that, you may want to check this place out. I took a girl named Jessica up. Really pretty girl and her session was good but not great. Her kissing could improve. I give her a solid be Didn't take anyone else up but did use their sauna which felt great.
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Manhattan / Cancun I liked this place better when it was a terma. Now, it's more like a lounge. Anyways, this place also had a better lineup. The first girl I took from here was way out of my comfort zone. Her name is Thalissa or something that sounded like that. An amazon girl. Way taller than me and thicker. Her make out session was great and was fun to be with. I give her a be+. I took a second girl up who was more my typical type. Her name is Day, yes that's the way she spelled it. Slim model figure, pretty face, fun to be with. Everything was good about the session except she didn't want me to DATY on her. I think I know why. After pulling out, I saw some blood on the tip of the condom which she quickly wipe off. At least I hope that is the reason and not that she doesn't like DATY. If not for that, it would have been a great session. I give her a score of be.
Mv30. I went there and there were only three girls at around 17:30. I told the receptionist I would come back later when there were more girls and left. Didn't charge an entrance fee so no harm no foul.
Solarium. I missed out on going here last year so made a point of going here this trip. About 7 girls when I got there with two my type. I choose the blonde named Luna. Great kisser and for you newbies who feel more comfortable with someone who speaks English, this is your girl. The downstairs make out session was only topped by the bedroom session. Everything was good. One funny thing, as I was DATY, she told me to stop and kiss her. She said she wanted to taste herself because she likes girls also. At least we have one thing in common. She was an easy A in my book.
If you are a newbie and I'm sure if you ask her, she could be your guide to Rio. Of course with some kind of payment. I think if you are into 3-somes, she would be great since she told me she likes girls. I just wish I had found her earlier on my vacation but at least I found her at some point. I will contact her next year to hook up and hopefully it will be just as good as this year.
I also was with my regular girl for two days and no brainer. She scores an A++. I didn't post any prices except for Ba21 because all of that information has been posted before.
BigButtDetecto
04-05-23, 01:58
"BA21. While walking around centro during the day I see this sign for the club. I walked in around 17:00. The entrance is are $10.00 and my water was are $10.00. The receptionist said ½ hour was are $110.00, are $150 for 40 minutes".
Is it USD?
"BA21. While walking around centro during the day I see this sign for the club. I walked in around 17:00. The entrance is are $10.00 and my water was are $10.00. The receptionist said hour was are $110.00, are $150 for 40 minutes".
Is it USD?It sounds like trash terma pricing. It should BRL. 10 is cover, some have cover, some don't.
"BA21. While walking around centro during the day I see this sign for the club. I walked in around 17:00. The entrance is are $10.00 and my water was are $10.00. The receptionist said hour was are $110.00, are $150 for 40 minutes".
Is it USD?Yes, in Brazil they always have their prices in USD.
Vagabundo1
04-05-23, 12:25
Perola Negra, 350 40 minutes, 30 reais cover.
So I went there with a ISGer in town for a month.
I found a girl who is a paulistana in town for a few weeks, and she said she would BBFS, but when we got to the room she wanted to upsell me and ask for a tip to bareback. Totally blew it and she was a time waster. I am out of practice for the terma scene. I did not screen well enough. I just fucked her with a condom.
I have so many regulars who will let me creampie all their holes that I hate hate hate having the 40 minute time pressure.
But I got some numbers. Some good talent. My wingman who prefers blondes and to wife up his girl was in heaven and pissed in a circle and marked his girl, a single mother for whom he paid 600 or so for an hour. I view those prices as more than one needs to pay with many good prive options, but he has been locked in rich world man park pussy prison for a year, and blew another 800 on a 4 x4 girl.
Perola Negra is a good option in a good neighborhood. Learn from my mistake as I am: always do a good interview before going upstairs. Also, I had barebacked my regular 20 year old in earlier in the day so I was not strictly in need of fucking again but being a functional sex addict, I did again fuck.
And so it goes, here in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, an adult disneyland, where the natives are friendly but ruthlessly greedy.
UsaInEurope
04-05-23, 17:55
Thanks for sharing your experience! I just arrived in Rio and will be staying until April 8th AM.
Is it normal to recieve BBBJ in massages? Or they usually put some protection?
Does anybody have a recommendation besides 4 x4? I've read a lot about Centaurus, Monte Carlo and Solarium. I would be very thankfull to recieve any PM with info on specific girls with known performance to contact. Just trying to give the best possible use of my time in Rio. Thanks in advance to everyone wanting to share!!All your answers are contained within. Yes. RTTF.
"BA21. While walking around centro during the day I see this sign for the club. I walked in around 17:00. The entrance is are $10.00 and my water was are $10.00. The receptionist said hour was are $110.00, are $150 for 40 minutes".
"Is it USD?It's in reais. For some reason the auto-correct changes the r. to are.
UsaInEurope
04-05-23, 20:10
Beach day!
After seeing the best asses in the world just inches from my face all day, I had to go to Solarium. Very different from 4 x4 and it just depends on what you like. No girl is "better" or "worse" than another girl just depends on what you like.
- Do you like girls to initially be modelesque ice queens preening themselves? Solarium.
- Do you like Cosmo girls more than Women of Color girls? Solarium.
- Do you like to feel somewhat classier or more upscale before penetrating? Solarium.
The same thing happens in both places once you get into a room. Room quality was the same for me. Had an amazing time at both. I just prefer more assertive women who don't initially give off the stone faced "I know I'm hot" vibe. Solarium is in a much nicer / safer neighborhood. Less expensive Uber from Ipanema / Copa. And with every encounter, YMMV. My chemistry with a lady will be wildly different than yours. Figure out how to get what you want using the vehicle provided.
Anywho, hung out beginning 6:30 ish on a Tuesday night. Freeballin under a robe again. 50/50 girl: guy ratio but nowhere to sit. Girls are taking up all the bar seats and a lot of the couch seats. Get your ass up -- those are for the people who paid are $150 just to get inside.
Nobody really fit my fancy. All were gorgeous. But there's always "that one" who speaks to me. Finally found a seat and 6 guys thought standing 2 feet in front of me blocking my view except for wide man ass was a great time. Yes, it's too small and badly laid out.
So I got up and stood by the other mirror until an old dude got up and took his prime perch next to the stairs. That's where you want to be -- can see the girls coming up before anyone else can nab them.
Bided my time for about 30 minutes knowing more will pop up over time. But the place is kind of boring. No peep show aspect like 4 x4, just girls standing, bored, and guys sitting either bored or talking to other guys. Ugh.
Finally The One came up the stairs. Probably 5'8 to 5'9, looks Italian or classy European, blonde hair, massive breasts stretching a fishnet "dress," slightly older (which I like as overall they're more confident, enjoy sex more, not so dead fish-ey) and smoke started coming out of my ears. Unfortunately, she ignored me and went straight to a guy at the bar. Fuck. But about 10 minutes later she started making her way back and I gave her the eye. Sat down next to me and we just looked into each other's eyes for an intensely personal amount of time. Things got going, up to the room, and she was incredible. After we were done and she let herself have a couple orgasms (a great sign that she let herself go) she instigated cuddles, kissing, made sure we stayed till the call, then pushed me against the wall so I couldn't go down the stairs right away. Her name was be-something but I had no idea what it was. But she's the only one who looks like that.
Went to the sauna, which is MUCH better than 4 x4's, which is WAYYYYYYYYYYYY too punishingly searingly hot. Nice eucalyptus lemon in the steam. Skin felt amazing and so did I.
The nice little cherry on top was that the locker room attendant when I left was a cute lady who knew I was changing and stayed anyway. Well, I'm not shy so here's a huge gringo dick for you to check out.
Thinking Whiskeria (sp) tonight. We shall see.
UsaInEurope
04-06-23, 01:27
Fucking my way across Rio.
The variety of types of girls is just outstanding. Yesterday was a curvy busty horny MILF. Today was a Perola, a super tight teen with a bubble butt and perfect tan on medium brown skin and dark dark nipples at Whiskeria 65. Wow.
Perola was her name. Dancing up a storm in the way too loud bar / club area. Almost physical pain just sitting there. But I was the ONLY guy at 6 pm and was surrounded by 20 mostly naked girls. One would sit next to me, DFK, stroke my cock and I'd watch the gyrations and suck her tits until she asked if I wanted to go upstairs and I'd say no thank you. Then another. Finally cycled to the one I had my eye on, Perola, but I was in no hurry whatsoever as there wasn't anyone else to take her. I caught her eye and she sat down next to me. My cock was about as thick as her forearm and I still asked if she did 'completo' which she said was 'compleado' or similar. Anyway she was willing to try and take me up her ass. Unf.
Lots of pressure to upgrade the room and time. I held strong to 30 minutes and a basic room. I knew I wasn't going to last long and this wasn't GFE.
The room was fairly nasty. Stain on the sheet, no pillow. But what it DID have that EVERY room should have was a thigh-high sink. She washed my cock in it, I peed down the drain. Very convenient.
My new favorite DATY position is her on all fours and me underneath her with our feet pointing in the same direction. I get to see everything and she gets to rub where it feels best for her. She came pretty quickly and was super juicy.
I was in no mood for a BJ so put the tent on and she could barely fit me in her tight tight pussy. Wow she's amazing. Then did try anal and didn't get very far. Tried again in another position with a ton of lube and no luck. Oh well, guess I just have the tightest puta in South America to play with.
Other notes:
- They don't take AmEx. Luckily I had cash. Aye. A Brahma and room was $390 real CC or $375 real cash. So always take backup so you can pay at the end.
- The locker room is basically in the entrance so I gave 2 lady attendants a strip show as I dropped the robe to re-dress. If you're lookin I'm not mindin.
- I didn't appreciate one of them begging and chasing me around for a tip, though.
- They do smoke in the bar.
- It is trashier than 4 x4 but I kinda like the gritty non-sterile environment.
Hi,
Anyone knows any apartment or house rentals company that works in Rio for group of 6 people, other than Airbnb.
The Critic
04-07-23, 05:30
Fucking my way across Rio. I like reading your reports. Nice, detailed synopsis of experiences.
Just got back from my favorite country. Took a quick side trip to Curitiba which I will write about in that section. I hope the issue at 4 x4 got fixed. Too bad you didn't find your Mystery Woman. Good reading your detailed reports as well.
UsaInEurope
04-07-23, 15:50
4 x4 is fixed. Report to follow.
Centro is a wasteland today for good Friday. No 13 de mayo. No dark room. No 1417.
Will tomorrow be shut down, too?
What about the Termas tonight? Tomorrow?
UsaInEurope
04-07-23, 16:42
Still horny for all the puta.
Went back to 4 x4 around 6:30 after a day of hiking up to Fort Leme near Copa, having a great lunch and watching nearly naked girls on Ipanema.
Got an Uber over there. Fucking Uber drivers, man. If it's within half a mile of the location they're like "ok here. " Fuck off you assholes. They turn down wrong streets and expect me to walk around Centro in the dark. Fuck off asshat. On pickup if they're within 2 blocks, good enough! I know it's a non-Western 3rd world country but you still have the little blue dot and, I'm sorry, you fucking know where Quatro Por Quatro is, puta.
Assholes.
So of course I made the guy spend 5 minutes driving in a big circle to drop me off in front of the place. That's what I paid for, and you get 1 star. Take that.
Walk in and the towel lady is in a much better mood and almost smiled. Phew.
Only 2-3 other guys in the whole club and it's wall to wall girls. Perfect. Enjoy a beer while ogling all the ass. One girl had nothing but pasties on and a fishline-wide thong on and I swear her pussy lips were hanging out. Too bad she was all tatted up. Not my thing, but her body was perfect -- short, baby fat but not fat, perky bouncy titties. Unf.
Some plastic bottle blonde sat down next to me, took my out of my boxers (these robes are TINY, man) and put her tongue down my throat. Nice to meet you! Sent her on her way after a bit of that.
Overall had a wonderful mix of girls. Clean, tatted, tall, thick, fake boobs, fake ass, real, dark black, everything.
Another girl asked to sit with me and I told her no -- not my type and didn't want someone I did want to think I'm with her. You have to boss the bitches around a little bit.
I had my eye on a girl in a skintight body suit that was about 2 sizes too small and front zippered almost down to her belly button. Cute, jet black hair past her butt, chubby hot but put together, tits that were standing straight up, had glass on. Innocent dirty. Unf.
Played coy, again, because there was no threat of any guy taking her as there was no competition. Finally she came over and there was an immediate connection. Something I felt that's more of a pay for play thing. Hung out for a bit and then she put her tongue down my throat and sucked mine into hers and. You get the picture. Might be the deepest kiss I've ever gotten. Then deeper. I could feel the other girls staring, especially the ones I turned away, and loved it. Stay natural, ladies. Stay natural.
Took her upstairs and, holy shit, that wasn't even the beginning of how hot the session was. Maybe the best -- personally or with a prostitute -- I've ever had. "It's been months and months since I haven't had to use lube!" "How do you know how to do all this? Have you taken sex classes?" hahahahahaha. Yes, she spoke English as she was on a cruise ship for a while. Anyway, 3 eyes rolling back in her head orgasms later, Karoline was too sensitive for any more play. Which, of course, made me lick her again to body shattering effect.
I love this place.
Went back to 4 x4 around 6:30 after a day of hiking up to Fort Leme near Copa, having a great lunch and watching nearly naked girls on Ipanema. Overall had a wonderful mix of girls. Clean, tatted, tall, thick, fake boobs, fake ass, real, dark black, everything. I had my eye on a girl in a skintight body suit that was about 2 sizes too small and front zippered almost down to her belly button. Cute, jet black hair past her butt, chubby hot but put together, tits that were standing straight up, had glass on. Innocent dirty. Unf.
Played coy, again, because there was no threat of any guy taking her as there was no competition. Finally she came over and there was an immediate connection. Something I felt that's more of a pay for play thing. Hung out for a bit and then she put her tongue down my throat and sucked mine into hers and. You get the picture. Might be the deepest kiss I've ever gotten. Then deeper. I could feel the other girls staring, especially the ones I turned away, and loved it. Stay natural, ladies. Stay natural.
I love this place.Yes, the "couch play" the goes down in Brazil can be topnotch. It's what the guys who patronize the FKKs say they used to get back in the beginning in Germany, but alas no more. Save it for the zimmer they say. And WTF for? Don't they realize that some quality couch time can seal the deal? And the kissing! Man the way a Brasiliera kisses! I had a branca in Sao Paulo literally give me a "hickey of the tongue" she was going at it so deep and hard and with such passion. Have never had that before or since! Good reports! Glad you're enjoying your trip.
UsaInEurope
04-07-23, 21:49
Yes, the "couch play" the goes down in Brazil can be topnotch. It's what the guys who patronize the FKKs say they used to get back in the beginning in Germany, but alas no more. Save it for the zimmer they say. And WTF for? Don't they realize that some quality couch time can seal the deal? And the kissing! Man the way a Brasiliera kisses! I had a branca in Sao Paulo literally give me a "hickey of the tongue" she was going at it so deep and hard and with such passion. Have never had that before or since! Good reports! Glad you're enjoying your trip.Thanks Cane! Yeah the kissing is just out of control. Every girl that sits next to me on the couch gives me the deepest most passionate kiss. Without wanting anything more. Just spectacular.
Sad to hear about the FKKs. Been there and loved all the PSA. I still say there's not much better than walking into a rando Berlin house and seeing a girl take 5 dicks at once and still wanting mine to fit somewhere. Germans are dirty motherfuckers.
Back to Brazilthe sensuality is beyond compare. This is my 5th continent I've fucked across and might be the best. Why am I leaving?
P.S. Today fucking sucks. Horny and no girls because Good Friday. Even the ones I have numbers for are all churched up. Fucking catholicism.
Thanks Cane! Yeah the kissing is just out of control. Every girl that sits next to me on the couch gives me the deepest most passionate kiss. Without wanting anything more. Just spectacular.
.... Back to Brazil, the sensuality is beyond compare. This is my 5th continent I've fucked across and might be the best...The first two times I went to Brazil were for Carnival in 2003 and 2004, with two friends, all in our early 20's. This was before I mongered, but we'd go out to the clubs in Imapnema, Copa, Botafogo, etc. And the regular girls would kiss you on the lips when you met them and were leaving in the same way that guys shake hands. If they liked you a bit more they would slip in some tongue. It blew me away and I still don't know how I didn't get more sick on the trip LOL. The first trip I slept with 4 girls in 11 days and I didn't speak a word of Portuguese!
I think the Brazilian culture is just overly sexualized, or perhaps they aren't encumbered by inhibitions that we have in Europe and North America. During Carnival I noticed that they didn't drink near as much as me and my friends. It was all about dancing with as many partners as you could, making out, hooking up, etc.
The first two times I went to Brazil were for Carnival in 2003 and 2004, with two friends, all in our early 20's. This was before I mongered, but we'd go out to the clubs in Imapnema, Copa, Botafogo, etc. And the regular girls would kiss you on the lips when you met them and were leaving in the same way that guys shake hands. If they liked you a bit more they would slip in some tongue. It blew me away and I still don't know how I didn't get more sick on the trip LOL.Reminds me of my very first trip to Brazil so, so many years ago. Got back home and I was so sick. I was so, so sick! Had to take a week off from work just to recover LOL! And it all came down to going down there and kissing on all of those girls. Just DFKing like crazy. I remember literally swapping saliva with one of them! But I picked up a tip from a vet on one of these boards that I have followed on every single mongering trip I've taken since then, which is to gargle with Listerine regularly. I do it before I head out to a club. And I do it pretty immediately when I get back to my room. It kills those germs! And I've never gotten sick on a mongering trip ever again.
UsaInEurope
04-08-23, 02:39
The first two times I went to Brazil were for Carnival in 2003 and 2004, with two friends, all in our early 20's. This was before I mongered, but we'd go out to the clubs in Imapnema, Copa, Botafogo, etc. And the regular girls would kiss you on the lips when you met them and were leaving in the same way that guys shake hands. If they liked you a bit more they would slip in some tongue. It blew me away and I still don't know how I didn't get more sick on the trip LOL. The first trip I slept with 4 girls in 11 days and I didn't speak a word of Portuguese!
I think the Brazilian culture is just overly sexualized, or perhaps they aren't encumbered by inhibitions that we have in Europe and North America. During Carnival I noticed that they didn't drink near as much as me and my friends. It was all about dancing with as many partners as you could, making out, hooking up, etc.It's truly living.
What do you need drugs and booze for if you live passionately and without fear of judgement? Without sexual puritanism repression? Fuck. Our mannequins don't even have nipples. Everywhere else they have pussy lips. Fuck. USA is so fucked and repressed it's unbelievable.
Why wouldn't a functional human want to kiss and smile and have fun and enjoy? That doesn't mean you're going to fuck the person. So kiss and enjoy! Without the hangups and expectations.
Beach day!
After seeing the best asses in the world just inches from my face all day, I had to go to Solarium. Very different from 4 x4 and it just depends on what you like. No girl is "better" or "worse" than another girl just depends on what you like.
- Do you like girls to initially be modelesque ice queens preening themselves? Solarium.
- Do you like Cosmo girls more than Women of Color girls? Solarium.
- Do you like to feel somewhat classier or more upscale before penetrating? Solarium.
The same thing happens in both places once you get into a room. Room quality was the same for me. Had an amazing time at both. I just prefer more assertive women who don't initially give off the stone faced "I know I'm hot" vibe. Solarium is in a much nicer / safer neighborhood. Less expensive Uber from Ipanema / Copa. And with every encounter, YMMV. My chemistry with a lady will be wildly different than yours. Figure out how to get what you want using the vehicle provided.
Anywho, hung out beginning 6:30 ish on a Tuesday night. Freeballin under a robe again. 50/50 girl: guy ratio but nowhere to sit. Girls are taking up all the bar seats and a lot of the couch seats. Get your ass up -- those are for the people who paid are $150 just to get inside.
Nobody really fit my fancy. All were gorgeous. But there's always "that one" who speaks to me. Finally found a seat and 6 guys thought standing 2 feet in front of me blocking my view except for wide man ass was a great time. Yes, it's too small and badly laid out.
So I got up and stood by the other mirror until an old dude got up and took his prime perch next to the stairs. That's where you want to be -- can see the girls coming up before anyone else can nab them.
Bided my time for about 30 minutes knowing more will pop up over time. But the place is kind of boring. No peep show aspect like 4 x4, just girls standing, bored, and guys sitting either bored or talking to other guys. Ugh.
Finally The One came up the stairs. Probably 5'8 to 5'9, looks Italian or classy European, blonde hair, massive breasts stretching a fishnet "dress," slightly older (which I like as overall they're more confident, enjoy sex more, not so dead fish-ey) and smoke started coming out of my ears. Unfortunately, she ignored me and went straight to a guy at the bar. Fuck. But about 10 minutes later she started making her way back and I gave her the eye. Sat down next to me and we just looked into each other's eyes for an intensely personal amount of time. Things got going, up to the room, and she was incredible. After we were done and she let herself have a couple orgasms (a great sign that she let herself go) she instigated cuddles, kissing, made sure we stayed till the call, then pushed me against the wall so I couldn't go down the stairs right away. Her name was be-something but I had no idea what it was. But she's the only one who looks like that.
Went to the sauna, which is MUCH better than 4 x4's, which is WAYYYYYYYYYYYY too punishingly searingly hot. Nice eucalyptus lemon in the steam. Skin felt amazing and so did I.
The nice little cherry on top was that the locker room attendant when I left was a cute lady who knew I was changing and stayed anyway. Well, I'm not shy so here's a huge gringo dick for you to check out.
Thinking Whiskeria (sp) tonight. We shall see.Solarium is a white girl convention. There is damn near zero diversity in there. If one likes a terma that is not even remotely close to representative of the make up of Rio or Brazil than this is the place.
Vagabundo1
04-09-23, 12:52
Very true.
And the black girls when they appear in Solarium are not top tier.
The top tier black girls are to be found in the prives of copa and centro, 4 x4, perola negra, mosaico, and of course VM.
Top tier morenas are to be found in Solarium, of course.
There are a whole list of zona norte and zona east boates, such as black and white in bonsuccesso, and what I call a new secret terma (as I am a mystery spy novel writer at heart) somewhere North of Barra that I plan to go to with some ISGers who are in town where there is the best talent to be had in black girls. I should know. Negras could keep me alive for another 100 years!
Solarium is a white girl convention. There is damn near zero diversity in there. If one likes a terma that is not even remotely close to representative of the make up of Rio or Brazil than this is the place.
Axel Heyst
04-09-23, 13:55
Solarium is a white girl convention. There is damn near zero diversity in there. If one likes a terma that is not even remotely close to representative of the make up of Rio or Brazil than this is the place.That's funny because the last time I went to Solarium I selected a demure, all natural, slender, black spinner. She was very nice and she gave me very friendly service if you know what I mean. KKK.
I like 4 x 4 a lot, but I believe Solarium on average has better looking girls or to be more accurate, Solarium usually has more of the kind of girls that I prefer: attractive, slender, & all natural. Take the last time I was there: there were 3 girls out of 25 or so that caught my attention. The friendly black girl that I chose, and 2 other, attractive, slender & natural brancas. The black girl was actually my 2nd choice. My 1st choice was already sitting with a customer when I arrived. But I have no regrets about that night. My little black girl was terrific. Guess I am an equal opportunity monger. I like girls of all races. HA HA. Although my overall preference is for slender Brazilian white girls and Asian, Asian girls.
Solarium is a white girl convention. There is damn near zero diversity in there. If one likes a terma that is not even remotely close to representative of the make up of Rio or Brazil than this is the place.I just found out the KFC by my house doesn't sell burgers. If I want a burger, I don't go there.
I'm not sure racial representation in a brothel exemplifies any cultural enlightenment. White girls are clearly Solarium's schtick. If you prefer black girls, there are other venues meeting this demand.
Very true.
And the black girls when they appear in Solarium are not top tier.
The top tier black girls are to be found in the prives of copa and centro, 4 x4, perola negra, mosaico, and of course VM.
Top tier morenas are to be found in Solarium, of course.
There are a whole list of zona norte and zona east boates, such as black and white in bonsuccesso, and what I call a new secret terma (as I am a mystery spy novel writer at heart) somewhere North of Barra that I plan to go to with some ISGers who are in town where there is the best talent to be had in black girls. I should know. Negras could keep me alive for another 100 years!I still need to check out Black and White as well as Perola Negra.
White girls are clearly Solarium's schtick.I would say that Centaurus had an even stronger reputation in this regard than Solarium, at least when it comes to negras. In fact, in all of my visits to Centaurus I don't recall ever seeing a black girl there even once. Same for Solarium too though, but other members have clearly acknowledged seeing a few "tokens" at Solarium every once and awhile.
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Thanks again for the advice fellas. I went to Centaurus and chatted with some girls, but didn't really get much out of it at first, so just picked the one I thought was hottest and took her up to the room. Turns out she was quite the party girl. She was smokin weed during the session and offered me coke, so I figured she'd be down for a bachelor party.
I got pretty drunk that night and have a terrible drunk memory, and combined with my complete lack of portugese, I'm not entirely sure how it happened, but I somehow got the girl to call her friends up to the room while we were fucking. Both were hotties and one of them spoke english, so I got her number and arranged the party the next day.
It was fucking epic, I couldn't have imagined it going better. They put on an absurdly hot lesbian 3 way show. They had clearly done it before, it was a work of art. It was so incredible that at some point I felt like I might have a heart attack, though that was more likely due to all the coke LOL.
Afterwards we had the option to fuck them for an extra fee (we probably overpaid for the whole thing, but was well within the budget so didn't really mind). Everything went smoothly, the girls were great, the boys were happy, and all was right in the world.
Overall I've been unsurprisingly quite impressed by the girls here. The bodies, and the mysterious hybrid racial combinations are just sensational. I've been to Centaurus, Solarium and Eden Spa, and also found one girl on seeking.com.
Eden Spa was a bit too grimy for my usual taste, but the girl I got there looked like she was from an amazonian tribe, such an exotic look. Body was banging. For that price, it just felt wrong. I actually went there because I wanted a massage with my sex, without realizing that the massage isn't really an offering there. My girl thought it was funny though, and ended up giving me a half decent massage after the sex.
Solarium also didn't disappoint for the white girls as mentioned here. I found this absolute stunner brunette who looks just like a girl from high school that is going to be at the wedding that I'll never be able to pull, so that satisfied a unique desire I didn't expect to be able to. Will be funny talkin to her at the wedding LOL.
My seeking.com experience was also quite fruitful. The first night I was here I wanted to go out and have some pleasant company, not just get laid, and she played the role very well. Good vibe, conversation somehow flowed decently even though she spoke no english and it was 100% google translate, and she found some coke for me. She was like 1/3 hooker, 1/3 girlfriend, 1/3 concierge. Whatever I wanted she'd help me get. Seen her a couple times.
If I was here for longer and wanted to learn portugese, I would definitely use seeking more. I like the experience and had a number of other hotties messaging me on there, but didn't really have enough time for them. Might see one more before I leave.
White Brazilian women are my favorite. I have zero attraction to black women......Way back in the 80's I knew this Pam Grier lookalike who wanted nothing to do with me. She liked an acquaintance of mine and I tried to get them together. One day I had the two of them at my place and left them alone in a room. Try as she would he would not get it on with her. She ended up calling him a priest. In my mind I was not so kind and subsequently avoided him as I thought he may have been gay. But perhaps he was not. I'm just happy I like all women.
Playboy2021
04-12-23, 21:09
Just spent two weeks in Rio. Stayed at Windsor Palace Copacabana. Great location just one block from: the beach, a churrascaria, Monte Carlo terma, Eden Spa. Standard Rio experience, lots of fucking and lots of good steak. No complaints.
I would say that Centaurus had an even stronger reputation in this regard than Solarium, at least when it comes to negras. In fact, in all of my visits to Centaurus I don't recall ever seeing a black girl there even once. Same for Solarium too though, but other members have clearly acknowledged seeing a few "tokens" at Solarium every once and awhile.The girl I went with at Centaurus was black and IMO easily the hottest there, and her friend who joined for our bachelor party was caramel, second hottest. But yes, not too many other dark skinned girls there. Definitely some other caramel skin tones though. Solarium similar. One proper black girl, a couple caramels.
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Thanks!
Spent a few weeks in Rio during February. Visited Eden Spa, Dark room, and 4 x4. I will say that the best value was Eden Spa, I only went twice but both girls were great. First time I went was around 2-3 pm, and the lineup was huge (15 girls). Ended up with a girl (Julia?) from the Amazon, she was so wet and body was banging. Should have repeated, she waited for me after I showered to kiss me good bye. 4 x4 was great too, best night was Wednesday 6 pm as there were few guys around and way too many girls. Friday was also good, but maybe like 20 guys and very crowded. And maybe I went to dark room at a bad time, but I went Saturday early afternoon and would not repeat. Have fun guys, I miss it!
To get a google voice number, google ask you to use your real phone number to verify to get the google number. Once you have the new google number, can a hooker trace who you are to blackmail you by using your google number and then find out the real number you used to verify it with. Is your personal info connected at all to your google number.
DJ FourMoney
04-18-23, 20:36
This might be a duh question but I am asking for someone.
What is the going rate for short time apartments in Centro?
Any particular that comes recommend?
Thanks.
Thanks again for the advice fellas. I went to Centaurus and chatted with some girls, but didn't really get much out of it at first, so just picked the one I thought was hottest and took her up to the room. Turns out she was quite the party girl. She was smokin weed during the session and offered me coke, so I figured she'd be down for a bachelor party.
I got pretty drunk that night and have a terrible drunk memory, and combined with my complete lack of portugese, I'm not entirely sure how it happened, but I somehow got the girl to call her friends up to the room while we were fucking. Both were hotties and one of them spoke english, so I got her number and arranged the party the next day.
It was fucking epic, I couldn't have imagined it going better. They put on an absurdly hot lesbian 3 way show. They had clearly done it before, it was a work of art. It was so incredible that at some point I felt like I might have a heart attack, though that was more likely due to all the coke LOL.
Afterwards we had the option to fuck them for an extra fee (we probably overpaid for the whole thing, but was well within the budget so didn't really mind). Everything went smoothly, the girls were great, the boys were happy, and all was right in the world.
Overall I've been unsurprisingly quite impressed by the girls here. The bodies, and the mysterious hybrid racial combinations are just sensational. I've been to Centaurus, Solarium and Eden Spa, and also found one girl on seeking.com.
Eden Spa was a bit too grimy for my usual taste, but the girl I got there looked like she was from an amazonian tribe, such an exotic look. Body was banging. For that price, it just felt wrong. I actually went there because I wanted a massage with my sex, without realizing that the massage isn't really an offering there. My girl thought it was funny though, and ended up giving me a half decent massage after the sex.
Solarium also didn't disappoint for the white girls as mentioned here. I found this absolute stunner brunette who looks just like a girl from high school that is going to be at the wedding that I'll never be able to pull, so that satisfied a unique desire I didn't expect to be able to. Will be funny talkin to her at the wedding LOL.
My seeking.com experience was also quite fruitful. The first night I was here I wanted to go out and have some pleasant company, not just get laid, and she played the role very well. Good vibe, conversation somehow flowed decently even though she spoke no english and it was 100% google translate, and she found some coke for me. She was like 1/3 hooker, 1/3 girlfriend, 1/3 concierge. Whatever I wanted she'd help me get. Seen her a couple times.
If I was here for longer and wanted to learn portugese, I would definitely use seeking more. I like the experience and had a number of other hotties messaging me on there, but didn't really have enough time for them. Might see one more before I leave.How much was a gram there?
Mr Enternational
04-19-23, 00:34
This might be a duh question but I am asking for someone. What is the going rate for short time apartments in Centro?.Tell your friend that airbnb is ready when he is.
Mr Enternational
04-19-23, 00:38
Once you have the new google number, can a hooker trace who you are.The short answer is no.
Vagabundo1
04-20-23, 01:23
Yet another direct hit from a Mark 48 ADCAP and Harpoon. Breaking up noises. Effing RTFF!
Tell your friend that airbnb is ready when he is.
Pahllus Maximus
04-20-23, 03:17
Been commuting to sex prison (USA) and have a reasonable idea of comparison. The first is that many folks have become used to banging their heads on the wall, and it's only when we stop we realize how much it hurts and how unproductive it is. A little below on this board was the comment of living without fear of judgment, which in USA means how rich you are and various status symbols that operates much like a jailers key ring, but most it means exclusion. Layered on top of that are race and other idiotic moral "issues" to keep the population divided of rubbish rather than voting for medium to long term goals of economic and happiness security. Brazil is so much more than cheap pussy. It's about celebrating life. The bit about the carnival, people spontaneously kissing and not needing various drugs to be happy tells the underlying story. And that's what I'm finding with Brazilian friends, a certain openness, generosity and not being over-caffeinated and perpetually pissed off. The "experience" of BR women GFE is because they are happier generally rather than US women.
Here we, as men, are easily sexually satisfied (without guilt or shame) and far more chilled. It's fun reading the posts. It's like a wide-eyed child just coming off a fun ride, so the guys here are mostly smiling, happy and open to forming friends and mostly full of good will because the craziness is abated. I see this in Thailand as well. We discover a new "us".
In any event, the USD is cooked. Weaponizing the dollar (and compliant western banks) with Russia sealed its fate. OPEC is no longer exclusively USD. Brazil is now trading outside of USD as are so may others. This destroys one of the key reasons of investing in the USA, it was the one thing that made putting up with the ever growing list of internal daily failings (endemic homelessness, weekly mass shootings, collapse of belief in institutions, no health care safety net, sex prison, crass commercialism, social inequality and unrest).
It's only now I'm realizing when we stop banging our heads against the wall, how good life starts to feel. We cannot save the Amazon personally, that's a crazy worship of money disease (dressed up "free" markets, supposedly a good thing in and of itself) much like the capitalists selling the rope to the revolutionaries to hang themselves with. Anyway, I started yesterday sipping awesome single origin coffee in Noritake China with my young lady asleep with a soft smile on her perfect skin and face. She is not all materialistic like western women. And ocean views. And serious basic, free healthcare. And no mass shootings. And knowing she will happily and proactively provide any part of herself and always asking me (smiling and winking at me) "what would you like", I find myself incredibly at peace, like slipping into a second childhood with all the wonder and fun of the first.
Discovering this place and letting go of my old life is a source of great happiness. Once you boys reach sexual needs equilibrium (meaning, adjust to healthy society), the next step is discovering everything else. It does not take much money to live here (relative to USA). Daily BJ's and the like are normal, healthy living and many of the ladies I know take pride in keeping their men happy and the affection they get in return.
It's not just bitter, spiteful old American cows or vain social media addicted younger ones: they are just a reflection of a wider sick society.
Been commuting to sex prison (USA) and have a reasonable idea of comparison. I enjoy your posts about life in Brazil, but I'm honestly sick and tired of this "de-dollarization" BS. If I hadn't heard the same nonsense for the last 30 years, I might've been inclined to take it more seriously, but Russia, Brazil, India? Seriously? Russia's economy is in a toilet, waiting for a flush. India's economy is 1/7th of ours, Brazil's is 1/10th, South Africa's is not even in the picture. China is a serious contender, but yuan (like all BRIC's currencies except SA) is not convertible, plus yuan's share is meager 7% of world transactions. More importantly, none of our allies is rushing out of the dollar world, and there is no indication that it's going to change. Dollar is safe and will be for a long time.
As for OPEC's growing discontent with the US policies, let's see how it plays out. Today, we are the top producer of oil in the world, which wasn't the case 40 years ago. And yet we survived.
https://history.state.gov/milestones/1969-1976/oil-embargo
Wayne Roberts
04-20-23, 11:47
Been commuting to sex prison (USA) and have a reasonable idea of comparison. The first is that many folks have become used to banging their heads on the wall, and it's only when we stop we realize how much it hurts and how unproductive it is. A little below on this board was the comment of living without fear of judgment, which in USA means how rich you are and various status symbols that operates much like a jailers key ring, but most it means exclusion. Layered on top of that are race and other idiotic moral "issues" to keep the population divided of rubbish rather than voting for medium to long term goals of economic and happiness security. Brazil is so much more than cheap pussy. It's about celebrating life. The bit about the carnival, people spontaneously kissing and not needing various drugs to be happy tells the underlying story. And that's what I'm finding with Brazilian friends, a certain openness, generosity and not being over-caffeinated and perpetually pissed off. The "experience" of BR women GFE is because they are happier generally rather than US women.
Here we, as men, are easily sexually satisfied (without guilt or shame) and far more chilled. It's fun reading the posts. It's like a wide-eyed child just coming off a fun ride, so the guys here are mostly smiling, happy and open to forming friends and mostly full of good will because the craziness is abated. I see this in Thailand as well. We discover a new "us".
In any event, the USD is cooked. Weaponizing the dollar (and compliant western banks) with Russia sealed its fate. OPEC is no longer exclusively USD. Brazil is now trading outside of USD as are so may others. This destroys one of the key reasons of investing in the USA, it was the one thing that made putting up with the ever growing list of internal daily failings (endemic homelessness, weekly mass shootings, collapse of belief in institutions, no health care safety net, sex prison, crass commercialism, social inequality and unrest)..This was a fantastic post, thank you.
Vagabundo1
04-20-23, 14:17
The Week in Baseball / Centro Prive patrol, Safira at Emporio do banho, Bia at Darkroom, 116,202.
First, over the past few weeks, Vagabundo has had his regular harem of mulatas with huge tits, like Nina Deponca who pairs well with Nia Nacci for a big four tit, six hole dupla, triple 69.
Nina came over Monday, and we did a pernoite last Thursday at Motel White House in bem zona norte. I pay her 300 or 400 for a few hours or overnight. The hotel was about 240 all in with food and drinks, hidromassagem.
A normal regular I pay 800 for 4 nights on the regular weekdays.
I had a negra Easter Sunday Easter bunny with huge, natural, 36 DD tits, I shall call her Jada Fire, because we fucked 4 times, all bare, often for up to 45. Minutes on a pernoite on Easter Sunday nights. A 22 years old. I shall have to dupla her with Nina DePonca.
Well today, I went into centro on the 14 h20 bus with a ISG wingman who is staying in Mediterraneo / Transamerica. The address is Av Gastao Senges 395. Wingman has a smaller suite on a lower floor for 500 USD a month, a good rate, for non high season.
We got off at Av Pres Wilson 147, and foot patrolled over to Emporio de Banho. 3 d floor had 3, none to our liking. 2nd floor had 3, and wingman picked safira, a branca, falsa magra. 140 r for a half hour. He reported mechanical performance.
Vagabundo, our Rabbinical hero, went and got a cheap haircut (30 r), and got the line up from Darkroom, and seeing Bia, he went up to Darkroom having collected a somewhat disappointed wingman at Spoleto. I chose an hour with Bia. Wingman being impatient bolted for 116.
Well BIA has a nice ass, a deep throat, and we get along well, so we fucked twice, she gave me a good massage, and Vagabundo was quite satisfied. 150 for the hour.
In terms of centro day date logistics, I recommend:
4 hours in suite com hidro at Motel Sheik.
Followed by lunch at.
Contemporaneo, a nice lunch and dinners spot down the street on Rua Gomes Freire.
Then, after Bia at Darkroom, I went over to 116, the Secret Terma, now not a secret because of the detectives on this board.
Wingman, not being the most communicative of players in the Swiss Navy Intel section, had already bolted for 4 x 4. Did I mention inmates who Anyway, at 116, there were 20 girls, including one I would say is an 8, morena from Padre Miguel, who would not give me her number. I quickly moved on to 202, where actual porn is shot.
Vagabundo headed back to Barra on the metro. So it goes.
Been commuting to sex prison (USA) and have a reasonable idea of comparison. The first is that many folks have become used to banging their heads on the wall, and it's only when we stop we realize how much it hurts and how unproductive it is. A little below on this board was the comment of living without fear of judgment, which in USA means how rich you are and various status symbols that operates much like a jailers key ring, but most it means exclusion. Layered on top of that are race and other idiotic moral "issues" to keep the population divided of rubbish rather than voting for medium to long term goals of economic and happiness security. Brazil is so much more than cheap pussy.I'm not sure what you are seeing. Brazil like almost any country has the same stratification the United States has. My affluent Brazilian friends and colleagues have the same quest for living in the right communities, sending their kids to the right schools, driving nice cars and taking nice vacations. Many of them also have the added luxury of hiring inexpensive help for their homes. You can also tell they want their daughters to get educated, not sleep around and find a nice boy with a future. This while the sons take advantage of the pleasures Brazil offers a man.
You are simply seeing the bottom strata of a relatively poor society and determining there is little or no materialism or status seeking. Yes, the Brazilians are happy and open. They have also had an historically libertine culture. However, so many Brazilians have nothing else but to live for the moment. If Brazil had Western affluency and similar social spending, the pool of women working in the sex industry would shrink.
If you go to poor Asian and African countries, you see similar joy in the small things in life. The women are also more open. But don't get confused. A Western man with Western means has privilege in these countries.
I enjoy your posts about life in Brazil, but I'm honestly sick and tired of this "de-dollarization" BS. If I hadn't heard the same nonsense for the last 30 years, I might've been inclined to take it more seriously, but Russia, Brazil, India? Seriously? Russia's economy is in a toilet, waiting for a flush. India's economy is 1/7th of ours, Brazil's is 1/10th, South Africa's is not even in the picture. China is a serious contender, but yuan (like all BRIC's currencies except SA) is not convertible, plus yuan's share is meager 7% of world transactions. More importantly, none of our allies is rushing out of the dollar world, and there is no indication that it's going to change. Dollar is safe and will be for a long time.Interestingly, there are some Russian supporters on the Ukraine threads proclaiming the end of the Dollar. The thing about Dollar hegemony is that it's not derived from what many people think. When politicians like Lula, Xi and Putin are talking about ending Dollar dominance in trade, they are blowing smoke either from ignorance or to manipulate.
You hit upon an important point. The Yuan is not fully convertible. Capital controls make it a no-go.
Where most people get it wrong is that they think the medium of trade is important. The store of value is far more important. The Saudis can say pay me in Bitcoin for our oil. (Let's just assume there is enough bitcoin liquidity.) Let's go further and say the Saudis just hold Bitcoin on account (unrealistic). Someone who sold the Bitcoin now has Dollars, Pounds or Euros or whatever. They need to spend it or invest it. Much of that money winds up in the United States and a lot of it will wind up in United States treasuries. Why? Because the United States (and Britain) are the most liquid and safe markets in the world.
However, that's not the end of it. For arcane economic reasons, the Chinese don't want you to buy Chinese govt. Bonds (and neither do the Germans really want foreigners buying their govt. Bonds). They will sell you appliances and other goods. They don't want you to store your money there unless it's tied up for a good, long time subject to a host of rules and regulations. The Chinese have too much liquid cash then they know what to do with.
In reality, the Saudis can't consume enough with all those Dollars. Instead, they buy United States (and British) treasuries, real estate, professional golfers and aging soccer players. Perhaps you will see some token gestures of Saudi investment in China. But seriously, why do the Chinese want or need Saudi investment?
Vagabundo1
04-20-23, 17:11
I agree this is a good report from Senor PM.
While I respect Senor Xpartan's insights, I do think dedollarization is a important topic, especially under Lula's Brazil.
https://youtu.be/uzp4u9KMeZQ
Take for example, the above.
This was a fantastic post, thank you.
RakSopheni
04-20-23, 18:47
Interestingly, there are some Russian supporters on the Ukraine threads proclaiming the end of the Dollar. The thing about Dollar hegemony is that it's not derived from what many people think. When politicians like Lula, Xi and Putin are talking about ending Dollar dominance in trade, they are blowing smoke either from ignorance or to manipulate."The idea of Argentina and Brazil creating a common currency is like two drunks in a ditch huddling together for warmth"- Larry Summers.
China can't be the worlds reserve currency since the government won't let it trade in the open market. They would have to allow it to trade freely for it to have a chance. The dollar is dead man walking. 31 trillion in debt and 2 trillion annual deficits as far as the eye can see. We are doomed. Gold will be the worlds reserve currency again. I just can't say what year it wil happen. The bond market will collapse and interest rates will soar once the world realizes we can't pay the interest on the debt anymore without printing it.
Wayne Roberts
04-21-23, 05:38
This is an important topic because most of us take advantage of the exchange rate advantages our currencies provide. I think preparation long term for a decline in the USD and likely all western currencies would be prudent. Ill explain my reasoning.
The US is done as the dominant superpower, this administration was the final nail in the coffin and the clock is running down now. The USD was held up as the reserve for no reason other than the trust the rest of the world had in it, but that trust has been shot and what we are seeing now is open rebellion against it. The Yuan will not replace the USD, that is not the intention. The plan is for a basket of currencies backed by various commodities so that no country is elevated into the same position the US is currently in. On top of that is the financial system where trade can be conducted free from US interference is being rapidly built, and its been in development for over a decade now. Its how Russia has managed to deal with the sanctions as well as they have, and its what has given everyone else confidence that now is the time to launch.
The sanctions imposed on Russia showed the world that the US has weaponized the dollar to such an extent that its now untenable. Not only did they try and shut Russia out completely over a border dispute on a continent they are not even on, they confiscated Russian foreign reserves. What is the point of holding dollars or US treasuries if the US Gov can just confiscate them at the drop of a hat? They are already worthless, especially for China who sees the endless anti Chinese rhetoric over Taiwan and should expect the same approach from the US that was used with Russia if conflict breaks out.
Think about this logically from the rest of the worlds perspective. The US prints money and runs up a huge deficit to build and maintain the biggest military machine on the planet, while it pumps money into social programs to keep its citizens under control. It exports its inflation on top of it. To make matters worse, the US then interferes with every nation on the planet, and you will be sanctioned into oblivion regardless of what your people vote for or want. You either get in line with their world order and their cultural programing, or you starve through economic isolation. Sometimes they move beyond that, to the point where they bomb countries and invade under the slightest pretense. Look at the state of the middle east after the last 30 years? Serbia? Afghanistan? Latin America can't sneeze without US diplomats and agents buzzing about.
China and Russia have been doing the opposite. Peace between the Saudis and Iran? China. Peace between the Saudis and Syria? Russia. Peace between Syria and Turkey? Russia. An end to the war in Yemen? China. Meanwhile, the US is refusing to work for a peaceful end to the war in Ukraine, and they have turned it into a massive proxy war at the expense of Ukrainian lives just to try and weaken Russia. The world sees this, knows this, understands what's happening and they are sick of it. Its not Russia that is isolated here, or China. Its the US who is becoming isolated by this, the only people paying attention right now are the anglo countries and their vassal states in the EU. We are at the stage where the US is bombing German infrastructure, and the Germans won't even talk about it. What an ally you have in America these days. Its not the America of old anymore, this is a different beast and a different people.
Lastly everyone tries to find comfort in GDP figures and they think these developing countries pose no threat. GDP is a loaded number, GDP with purchasing power parity included paints the true picture. When that is taken into account? China is already the biggest, most productive economy in the world. India is third, they are bigger than Japan already. Russia is 6th, right behind Germany. Brazil is 10, with Indonesia already in the top 10 and likely to join BRICS with Iran and the Saudis. Purchasing power is all that matters, because that tells you who can produce the most goods when its needed most.
The US is in decline, and the dollar will not be the reserve currency within 10 years. America is going to get rocked when they happens, because the extent of the money printing will be felt by the poor and the middle class the most. That does not mean that there will be a sole superpower to replace the US, its going nowhere anytime soon, but its going to be a multipolar world again and the days of America doing what they do without consequences is rapidly coming to an end.
Pahllus Maximus
04-21-23, 10:37
Xpartan has good points, but sooner rather than later China and others will form a monetary union or at least a trading currency. They have many problems, but there are overland pipes lines down to China from Russian and from Iran to Western China. And they are terrified of the dollar and West after the Russian thing. If you add unfunded State and private pensions into the USA, kited MUNI's and so on, it's not looking great. As to a store of wealth (excellent point, and reminder to everyone that upon death your convertibility is worthless, so use it now rather than in posterity), that is indeed getting hard. Paper certificate of precious metals is iffy, bonds are being raped by inflation plus who knows anything for sure with all the contagion, swaps, and accounts being marked to fantasy rather than market. Financial accounts being "restated" (ie fraud) is common. Land you say? The Detroit and Gary (Indiana) describe many major cities that rest on many fragile assumptions. It's a messy place. I'd bet on hydrocarbons (the physics of Wh / Kg is a b1tch), food and some critical logistics like firms. Even pharma is likely to undergo radical changes as genetics gets serious. I know that the obesity / diabetes drug companies invest in junk food, cynical, but get both sides of the trade! Precious metal miners and large oil are durable, and the Gen Z need to get realistic about that and the need for nuclear. Physics trumps virtue signalling bullshit. Of course if somebody creates a radical order of magnitude battery of cheap, plentiful materials like Graphene, X, kryptonite (as in Superman fantasy) then things radically change.
Finding durable wealth is really hard work. I've had a bit of luck in BR, but only because the Real is smashed and there are inherently valuable nice bits of real estate with inelastic demand that applies in many places if you can afford to get in. What happens when AI / outsourcing / offshoring etc creates a sea of poverty and people that are of no use for tax (they don't earn anything), are not needed for the military and structurally surplus? Or the baby boomers all hitting the exits with overpriced real estate and the 40 year Ponzi scheme starts to unravel and bank balance sheets are shown to be the fraud they often are?
Sure, BR has the same money stratification, but it's not tainted with the puritanical blame, shame and guilt of USA or UK. The well off folks (and some old money) I know here in BR are far more humble than USA, they remind me of Europe where wealth is discreet and does not imply being some superior being like the USA. Their kids went to Ivy leagues, but did not want to stay in the US. Too stultifying, a bunch of preening peacocks was how they described it. The people here are generally nice and spontaneous. People are allowed to be human beings. And you don't get weekly shootings or anywhere near the degree of ubiquitous homelessness and the rust belt. It's way better than the crushing poverty of India and places like Mexico City and some fucked up places in South America and Africa, or for that matter a lot of Eastern Europe that is a wasteland of ignorance, graft, pollution, de-population and lack of hope. I've traveled widely and think this place is a real economy and real country (unlike Argentina that is a failed state) that can feed itself and has manufacturing of pharma and other essentials, even a jet aircraft company and huge oil producer.
I'm very cautious with dollars. What is more important is companies that make something inherently valuable and can price it in whatever AND have pricing power.
Vagabundo, you greedy man. 3 big titted Amazonians is 9 holes and being licked and kissed in every way, a sensual overload. How do you last? Are you superman? Now THAT is a good investment of money, that let me again remind everyone has finite convertibility between now and death and chasing wonderful experiences and joy is an art form our Christian work ethic brainwashing robbed many people of.
I would remind all that we have an entirely separate thread dedicated to discussing money matters called "Real v. Dollar and other currency issues". Let's remember to post in the correct spaces depending what the subject matter is, especially if the message is a "deep dive".
I agree this is a good report from Senor PM.
While I respect Senor Xpartan's insights, I do think dedollarization is a important topic, especially under Lula's Brazil.
https://youtu.be/uzp4u9KMeZQ
Take for example, the above.So what is Lula going to do? What can he really do?
His little dance with Xi makes sense if you realize China helped his Presidential tenure a great deal by buying a lot of Brazilian commodities. There's two issues with today's environment. I don't think there is going to be another commodities boom like the 2000's. China has a decelerating economy that won't require as many commodities. They are certainly not going to stockpile them.
Any explanation? I think looks wise they are just a little better than the girls in privês. Though, that is subjective.
I don't get it.
Any explanation? I think looks wise they are just a little better than the girls in privs. Though, that is subjective.
I don't get it.It depends where you are looking and it depends on your taste.
The Barravips escorts definitely look top shelf. Some also have great reviews to back it up.
Mr Enternational
04-21-23, 20:45
Any explanation? I think looks wise they are just a little better than the girls in privs. Though, that is subjective.
I don't get it.Do they really look better or is it because they hired a professional and did a photoshoot? I do not get into the glamour. I would rather see a normal photo of the chick.
Any explanation? I think looks wise they are just a little better than the girls in privs. Though, that is subjective.
I don't get it.It's called greed. And if somebody will pay it? Profit!
Coming to RJ on Sunday. Is there ony places, boates Sunday night worth going? Haven't been to Rio for a while. Mostly staying in SP, which kinda sucks on Sundays.
Steve 9696
04-21-23, 23:57
Coming to RJ on Sunday. Is there ony places, boates Sunday night worth going? Haven't been to Rio for a while. Mostly staying in SP, which kinda sucks on Sundays.Total suck fest (not in a good way) on Sunday. I'the suggest trying Seeking Arrangement. I had an amazing date on a Sunday when all the good places are closed.
Pahllus Maximus
04-21-23, 23:58
The future of the dollar and western currencies is a big deal for us here. It is the enabler of our lifestyle, namely sexual and lifestyle arbitrage, just as corporations offshore for better value. We are doing the same on our personal household level. Unless you want to live in over-priced real estate with zero healthcare in the sex prison USA (I'm not talking tourists here), this topic directly relates to quality of life and the joy of daily blow jobs by beautiful young women. Wayne Roberts has a few good points, I think a basket of currencies like SDR's already used by airlines (but controlled by IMF) of commodities producers that have pricing power and strong international demand is a great start. I'd go further and directly invest in companies that do that. During the middle of 2020, big oil stocks were available at a fire sale. And yes, the GDP figures are rubbish, just as the US unemployment and inflation rates are made up nonsense. If I knew how, I'd love some exposure to Russian and Iranian infrastructure (already into China). Taiwan is a great place. If there is a conflict there will be some great buying (use a local company and not US listed owners).
Purchasing power is local currency is indeed the key, that people forget. Keep in mind Visa and Mastercard are quick to cut off funds to political dissidents just as USA did to Russia. If you were in their shoes, would you allow your entire country and FOREX and reserves to be held to ransom by a foreign power run by some Washington DC swamp critters and their trade front-running buddies they are in a revolving door job with? So yes, I can see diverse basket of currencies in a new exchange system outside of the USA sphere of influence, such as an expanded Union Pay. The USA centric model of sending the gun boats into Hong Kong (like the British did) or Taiwan is the last vestiges of a Roman Empire run by some corrupt cronies. It's painful and sad to see the Republic debased, but until people demand that schools to teach critical thinking as vaccination against lies and bullshit, and reject two-party binary & bullshit social "issue" distractions vote for medium-long term economic progress, it's game over. No matter how poor, parents in Asia spend a huge amount of their time and money to make their kids think rationally, defer gratification and get good grades. A look at most US high schools show undisciplined and ignorant mutts roaming around.
Now prives and private girls: I've had great success with privates in price and quality. The clubs are basically hotels and overpriced drinks that take a huge cut from the girls. They offer a concentration of horny guys with wallets to the girls, but at a price.
Like Vagabund, I not only have a black book (should be called a pink book) but a sort of revolving live in group of regulars who know my preferences and boy oh boy, they deliver, shattering orgasms and walk around naked or in thigh highs that I keep a stock of and give them $ to buy good bras (that are expensive) and make them laugh. Looking after them gets a huge rate of return. Now this is an investment class I can recommend. Diversification (busty, athletic, rainbow colors, some young, some highly experienced MILF's) plus anal, vaginal, BJ and threesomes by the poolside, the beach, in bed and even on a hiking trail. I have a another theory that a lot of guys in sex prison become sexually dysfunctional from lack of daily use and the terrible effects of obesity and bad health from bad food, alcohol and stress that creates jelly dick. Happily I wake up most days with a raging boner and beautiful young lady (or two) that take genuine pride in delivering, a sort f female pride of their power over a man in passion and his need to come back to them for more. The trick is that it is there on tap without ridiculous conditions in a nice surrounding with no time limit. The 30 minute fuck hutch is too mechanical, though it can be useful for talent spotting and sometimes the thrill of the hunt and surprise. It is horny in front of a mirror watching myself balls deep in a 19 year old as she smiles at me and spontaneously kisses, because she is happy with youth and doing what nature deliberately created us for, it's what living creatures do. And it's fun.
Seriously: good health, great clean, organic food, plenty of sex, kisses and hugs, low stress, ocean views, friends: any other situation is kind of nuts.
The future of the dollar and western currencies is a big deal for us here. It's rare, but I agree with Cane, even though I've only reading 3 sentences of your post. "I would remind all that we have an entirely separate thread dedicated to discussing money matters called "Real v. Dollar and other currency issues". " It's quite boring to read about your currency analyzes.
Regarding Sundays in Rio. There is one option, VM. Mentioned dozens of times. Sundays in VM are perfect for the newbies.
The future of the dollar and western currencies is a big deal for us here. It is the enabler of our lifestyle, namely sexual and lifestyle arbitrage, just as corporations offshore for better value. I agree it's a big deal, but to a point. I remember $1. 5 reals to $1 and so did vacationing and mongering in Brazil hurt me back then. Well, I really don't remember any pain, which tells me no, it didn't. If anything, travel today is more expensive than ever. Because Covid.
Let's just remember that Brazileiras are excellent adjusters. They won't let currency fluctuations eat into their profits, LOL.
Nebulousity
04-22-23, 13:13
It's rare, but I agree with Cane, even though I've only reading 3 sentences of your post. "I would remind all that we have an entirely separate thread dedicated to discussing money matters called "Real v. Dollar and other currency issues". " It's quite boring to read about your currency analyzes. With all due respect to Sperto and Cane, I find by PahllusMaximus to be one of the best writers on this site, with very meaningful and valuable life advice for how to maintain life balance and happiness while embracing the hobby in Rio (with financial thoughts mixed in). It is all connected. His posts are definitely not just about currency exchange. Either way though PahllusMaximus I appreciate your world view and it has made a positive impact in my life in Brazil for certain.
I just spent 9 days in Rio and am leaving my thoughts below. Background is an early 40's guys who has been mongering for quite a while, but mostly in Colombia of late.
Lodging.
I had a 2 bed / 2 bath airbnb in Copacabana, close to Leme Beach for $80/ nt. It was a bit dated, but plenty of room and the doormen were cool with my 1 girl a day or every other day incall.
Termas.
4 x4: Went 2 times. Once on a Friday night around 6 pm and there were 30 girls and 15 guys. I can't recall prices exactly, but I think entry was 60 R, beers / water 20 R, and then girls*420 R to 490 R for an hour based on the size of room you choose. I had a tall blonde with hazel eyes and a few tattoos named Safira. Had two rounds and tippedSecond time was on a Wednesday around 7 pm and oh my it was packed! 35 girls and 40 guys, including a couple large groups of Americans. I had a session planned for later that evening so just got a couple numbers and made out with Safira. On a side note, they offer the robe, but you do not need to wear.
Monte Carlo: Went 3 times, sessioning 2 x. Entry is 130 R, beers* 20 R, room is 150 R to 190 R depending on size, and girl is 400 R for 1 hour. Great line up every time I went which was usually 5-7 pm. Usually 15-20 girls and only 5-10 guys so good mix. A really flacca chica named Bia was great while a lighter skinned mulatta named*Katarine was not. When we got to the room Katarine would not do DFK or BBBJ which is almost just assumed in Brazil. Also had the small condoms that you sometimes get in Brazil and way too much lube. The only other thing I'd note is that they added an extra beer (20 R, $4) to my tab each time. I highlighted it, but didn't want to make a scene over $4. Watch your tabs guys. *.
Clinicas:
The first three are all in the 583 building on the map.
Sala 401: Tended to have the best girls overall I think. Cost was 150 R for 30 minutes or 200 R for 60 minutes. Had a nice 30 yr old name Taisa.
Sala 302: One day was fuglies (Saturday?) and then went on a Friday and had some cuties. Cost is same as 401, but had some suites which were 20 R more. Had a really energetic girl from Bahia named Isabella.
Sala 206: Ugliest girls, but also cheapest, starting at 100 R for 15 minutes and I think 120 R for 30 minutes. I didn't even sit down.
Clinica de Rio (in Barre): This was way out in Barre, so a 45 minute or so ride that my buddy found. It was in an office building which was a bit weird, and set up like a regular massage spa with scents, oils, etc. It was very clean and professional so I wasn't sure what to expect, but they had 8-10 women, most in the 25-35 year old range. Cost was 350 HR and both of our girls did CIM without asking and multiple pops. My girl went to town on the oral and despite me giving her a heads up stayed down there after climax, swallowing everything. For round 2 we did regular sex covered.
Bars:
MABS: Went once on a Friday or Saturday. Talked with a couple girls whose prices ranged from $60/ HR up to $200/ HR with most starting in dollars as opposed to Realis. Found the hottest girl and best*sex of my trip there. 3 hrs for 1000 R. She was a real estate agent from SP who had fallen on some rough times with work and family to came to RJ for 2 months to work. A natural 9 in my book with beautiful skin, 5'4" and natural 38 dd, 26,38 body. Did all night later in the week, going 11 pm to 6 am for 1500 R. Multiple pops and craziness. I know I overpaid a*little, but I really liked her and she*was starting at 2500 R which she said she normally gets (Scandallo prices!
Casablanca: Also went two times, once on a Thursday and once on a Friday. It was better on Thursday with 35 girls and maybe 15 guys* around 11. Cost is 100 R entrance which gets you 2 drinks. Beers were 20-32 R (seemed to vary based on server) and girl drinks 55 R (Sex on the beach) to 77 R for gin / tonic and 110 R for a small champagne bottle. The servers and girls were pushy at first, but backed off when I raised the issue. You negotiate with the girl (most start at 500-600 R an hour or 800-100 R for two) and then pay 150 R for a room there or 200 R to exit (mixed messages on exit fee as some girls said they needed to work until 5 am and others said they could leave with me). I just got numbers and didn't pull as both times I was too tuckered out*.
Mosaico: Cost is 240 R for an hour. Doesn't really get going until after 11 pm, but is where the girls go from the Termas when finished. Went on a Saturday ( 20 girls) and on a Tuesday ( 12 girls). *Perla Negra: Never went as it's way out in Barre, but everyone raved about it. It doesn't get going until after* 12 am and Wed-Fri are best.
Girls overall.
Having been with many latinas around Central and South America I can say without a doubt that Brazilianas enjoy sex the most and are the best in bed. First they try to choke you with their tongue, then they try to break your dick off, then they try to get you to sweat to death or die from multiple climaxes. It was not unusual to go through 3 condoms in a session and half the girls did CIM without asking. They literally will not let you leave the room unless you're satisfied and they also want to be satisfied themselves. It is sports fucking at its purest whereas I think the women in Colombia, Venezuela, and Panama are a little more sensual. *The girl's bodies were also much more natural with few fake tits and even fewer fake asses (SP may be different). I don't think the women's faces, style, or fitness is anywhere near as attractive as Colombia, but the women were much more laid back (beach lifestyle) and easy to get along with. Outside of my MABs girl the others did not dress up much, which was fine by me. *It was around 50/50 on whether they spoke another language, but I was able to alter my Spanish enough to be understood. Some women had worked abroad and knew a little English. *.
Other.
- Lunch and dinner can be easily had for 40-100 R for basic meal and beer. If you feel like spending more there are great steak and sushi places in Ipanema and Leblon.
- Normal people watching was good at the various Belmonte bars.
- I enjoyed walking the beach every day which was good exercise and also good people watching. The people start going to*the beach EARLY, like 9 am and then it starts to curtail off around 2 pm. The beaches are massive and it can take an hour to walk from Leme Beach to Leblon.
- Uber is super cheap and convenient.
- Watch out for trannies. In Brazil I found that they could be much more convincing than other countries, often travel with women, and do not announce themselves (in person, on Tinder, or when texting). *.
- Saturday seems to be quite slow for some reason. I think because most girls treat our hobby as a M-F job whereas in Colombia it's a side hustle for many that they do on weekends. *.
-Chicago.
Do they really look better or is it because they hired a professional and did a photoshoot? I do not get into the glamour. I would rather see a normal photo of the chick.I agree to some extent about the glamor. The top shelf escort sites have some genuinely pretty girls. And one thing is for sure. Pretty girls like having their photo taken.
I like the escorts who post videos because I can get a better take on their natural beauty.
Regardless, it is always advisable to get a recommendation and check out some reviews.
Axel Heyst
04-22-23, 17:10
Solid reportage Chicago. I enjoyed reading your informative post. It is most interesting to note that your report confirms what a few other BM's have recently said, good looking girls are back again at Monte Carlo. This is great news because the last time I went there the quality was not session worthy and I left empty handed. So, I am looking forward to going back to MC one more time to see for myself what's going on and what has changed since my previous visit. , It is all about the girls. Nothing else matters.
Your Mabs SP real estate agent turned bar room queen sounds like a great catch. Sure, you gave her more than most Mabs girls would have settled for, but without pictures it is impossible to say much more about. The only important thing is that the girl was very good in bed and you had a great time with her.
The last time I was in SP I fell into the inverse situation to yours with a Rio girl who travels to SP every Monday to work at Bomboa and then she heads back to RJ late every Friday night to be with her mother and daughter. Her tragic story was her husband was murdered one night while on the job managing a 7/11. She was gorgeous and she fucked me like she meant it, kkk, so I saw her once a week during the 6 weeks was in town.
MABS: Went once on a Friday or Saturday. Talked with a couple girls whose prices ranged from $60/ HR up to $200/ HR with most starting in dollars as opposed to Realis. Found the hottest girl and best*sex of my trip there. 3 hrs for 1000 R. She was a real estate agent from SP who had fallen on some rough times with work and family to came to RJ for 2 months to work. A natural 9 in my book with beautiful skin, 5'4" and natural 38 dd, 26,38 body. Did all night later in the week, going 11 pm to 6 am for 1500 R. Multiple pops and craziness. I know I overpaid a*little, but I really liked her and she*was starting at 2500 R which she said she normally gets (Scandallo prices!Nice and detailed report. You must have the new record, 1000 reais. That's amazing that she asked for 2500 reais. She must have thought that she was the "ultima coca-cola do deserto".
Have fun!
Nice and detailed report. You must have the new record, 1000 reais. That's amazing that she asked for 2500 reais. She must have thought that she was the "ultima coca-cola do deserto".
Have fun!Ha, I don't know. It's the first prepago I've been with who had a LinkedIn that's for sure. She said she's only working because real estate work is bad and her father's very sick. She's the youngest and all other siblings have kids so she's trying to make as much as she can in short time to pay for his treatment. I did tell her she was expensive for 'Sex in Brazil' and she became quite offended that I compared her to other girls. Now I'm in the doghouse kkk.
Ha, I don't know. It's the first prepago I've been with who had a LinkedIn that's for sure. She said she's only working because real estate work is bad and her father's very sick. She's the youngest and all other siblings have kids so she's trying to make as much as she can in short time to pay for his treatment. I did tell her she was expensive for 'Sex in Brazil' and she became quite offended that I compared her to other girls. Now I'm in the doghouse kkk.It doesn't matter what you payed as long as you're satisfied, even though everything above 150 reais is overpriced IMO. All GPS gave stories about bills, helping parents and expensive treatments.
You should try your luck somewhere else. Mabs is for the newbies and the old alcoholic farts.
I just spent 9 days in Rio and am leaving my thoughts below. Background is an early 40's guys who has been mongering for quite a while, but mostly in Colombia of late.
Excellent report!
It doesn't matter what you payed as long as you're satisfied, even though everything above 150 reais is overpriced IMO. All GPS gave stories about bills, helping parents and expensive treatments.
You should try your luck somewhere else. Mabs is for the newbies and the old alcoholic farts.Understood. I just wrapped up the third session with her. I'm not someone who focuses on a cost per fuck, I more so focus on value for the experience and think there are some women who are worth more than 150 R. I never bought into the whole 'sex is a commodity and you should never pay more than x. ' If that was the case we'd just sit at home and jerk off for free.
I did try my luck elsewhere. Hit up a lot of places as you saw in my post. Some very dirt cheap places like 100 R in Sala 206 of the 583 building, but I wouldn't touch those women with a 10 foot pole.
Thanks for the report Chicago.
Reading what you've written- it seems like if one doesn't have too much time to wander around and wants a quick in and out with a hot chick then the Clinica at Sala 401 is the best bet?
I just spent 9 days in Rio and am leaving my thoughts below. Background is an early 40's guys who has been mongering for quite a while, but mostly in Colombia of late.
Lodging.
I had a 2 bed / 2 bath airbnb in Copacabana, close to Leme Beach for $80/ nt. It was a bit dated, but plenty of room and the doormen were cool with my 1 girl a day or every other day incall.
Termas.
4 x4: Went 2 times. Once on a Friday night around 6 pm and there were 30 girls and 15 guys. I can't recall prices exactly, but I think entry was 60 R, beers / water 20 R, and then girls*420 R to 490 R for an hour based on the size of room you choose. I had a tall blonde with hazel eyes and a few tattoos named Safira. Had two rounds and tippedSecond time was on a Wednesday around 7 pm and oh my it was packed! 35 girls and 40 guys, including a couple large groups of Americans. I had a session planned for later that evening so just got a couple numbers and made out with Safira..
Mr Enternational
04-23-23, 19:31
All GPS gave stories about bills, helping parents and expensive treatments.Since time immemorial. In one of my favorite movies, "Life," Claude goes with a hooker in a bar for $2. He comes back and tells Ray he went with her because the girl said her mom needed an operation. They took up a collection at the church but were still short. Ray said, "So they were $2 short huh?
Smokers Rule
04-23-23, 23:40
You should try your luck somewhere else. Mabs is for the newbies and the old alcoholic farts.Yeah, I was very disappointed with Mabs last time I was in Rio. I wish there was a better place to pick up freelancers. Oh how I long for the days of Help:
Steve 9696
04-24-23, 00:10
Great to see you had a great time at MC Chicago. Good to have someone else be able to vouch for the current lineup. I was with two friends and we all found a treat or two and one of them is super picky. He chose Valeska who is a school girl flaca spinner with a vixen personality. I had her too and was not disappointed. You will be able to pic her out because she is so tiny with short hair.
Carol was great too. She has long curly dirty blond hair. That girl loves sex and very good on BJ as well. Pretty sure Bia, that Chicago mentions, is one of the other girls I had. If she is a bit on the taller side (5-6?) Moreno, and super slim but with tits and ass of a brasileira. Recommend her also.
Def check out Monte Carlo. If you like slim chicks that can bring the GFE.
Pahllus Maximus
04-24-23, 02:18
Thank you for the kind words Nebulousity. Quite a few people have PM'd me. The end game is happiness for for members here, that includes sex and all the important trimmings and enabling factors we control, like exercise, mental and physical health. As opposed to not becoming fuck hutch bunny in a quasi-industrial setting or mindlessly rutting like barnyard animals. Or one of those unhealthy and/or geriatric alcoholics we see in seedy bars.
This is NOT a moral thing, but rather about keeping it fun and high quality experiences that put a spring in our step and keep it exciting. Our brain reward circuits do have limits, there are neural chemicals and receptors to take into account. We are all different, but there are lot of guys that get "nutted out" ignoring this, especially coming to Rio for say 7 days and being worn out after 2 days after back to back sessions.
Think of it like a cafeteria versus a small, high quality restaurant and bit of fasting thrown in. I certainly love prime young women and a good life. Nothing wrong with that. Beats the White Plains NY commute or crass commercialism on NYC and conditional, high priced pussy. And the American women with all their fake porno type words, thinking guys are silly enough to believe it (many are) and machine gun style fellatio. Give me my 19 year olds, slow, full length, suction, a bit of humming, plenty of balls fondling and CIM. Done on the beach at sunset, drink in hand, sound of the booming surf, and at peace creates a slow moving feeling that ends in massive blasts and a happy GFE giggling at her efforts and sharing a kiss and drink and walking hand in hand. It's like been a teenager again. This is what we should aim for, being happy, confident men feeling the joy of the company of beautiful young women full of life in a good setting.
Thanks for the confirmation on Monte Carlo Chicago. I'll take a peek out of curiosity.
The Critic
04-24-23, 06:29
I just spent 9 days in Rio and am leaving my thoughts below. Background is an early 40's guys who has been mongering for quite a while, but mostly in Colombia of lateThanks for sharing your experiences in RJ. Very detailed and good read. Look forward to future reports.
On a side note, they offer the robe, but you do not need to wear. It used to be that robing was the DeFacto standard. Going back a couple of years this has changed making robing optional. I tend to find it more relaxing in robe and I feel you get more attention because it shows your "Ready to do Business" as opposed to wearing civilian clothes.
So, in Termas where offered do you tend to go for the robe or not? So, what's your opinion pros or cons of the Robe?
Yeah, I was very disappointed with Mabs last time I was in Rio. I wish there was a better place to pick up freelancers. Oh how I long for the days of Help:To be clear, the consensus from the group I was running with was that MABs selection was poor during the trip, so agreeing with others. I just saw the one girl that floated my boat walk in within 5 minutes of sitting down. I didn't go back to MABs after.
Thanks for sharing your experiences in RJ. Very detailed and good read. Look forward to future reports.
It used to be that robing was the DeFacto standard. Going back a couple of years this has changed making robing optional.....
So, in Termas where offered do you tend to go for the robe or not? So, what's your opinion pros or cons of the Robe?In 4 x4 I didn't wear a robe as I wasn't always sure I'd session and was also short on time the last trip. In MC I wore the robe, keeping briefs underneath and making sure to have what I sometimes need in the pockets (mouthwash, good condoms, Sildenafil).
In 4 x4 I didn't wear a robe as I wasn't always sure I'd session and was also short on time the last trip. In MC I wore the robe, keeping briefs underneath and making sure to have what I sometimes need in the pockets (mouthwash, good condoms, Sildenafil).And folks don't you forget your cameras hahaha!
Steve 9696
04-24-23, 12:26
And folks don't you forget your cameras hahaha!Actually I figured out halfway thru our visit that you can bring your phone in the club and carry discretely in your robe. Was able to gather phone numbers of two girls I liked plus used for translate once in the club (don't need that often).
Mr Enternational
04-24-23, 14:53
Actually I figured out halfway thru our visit that you can bring your phone in the club and carry discretely in your robe. Was able to gather phone numbers of two girls I liked plus used for translate once in the club (don't need that often).You do not need to carry it discretely. You can carry it in your hand and use it in the open. Hell, I used to carry a video camera before phones had cameras and before cell phones were widely used.
Actually I figured out halfway thru our visit that you can bring your phone in the club and carry discretely in your robe. Was able to gather phone numbers of two girls I liked plus used for translate once in the club (don't need that often).Yes, I had my phone for translate and to get numbers. Girls were very willing to give numbers and nearly every girl I sesioned with asked to put her number in my phone. The rates they offered outside depended on where I met them with most of the massage girls being willing to meet for 150 to 300 R / HR and Terma girls for 250 R to 400 R / HR. Discounts for multiple hours, with most girls doing 2 hrs for 300 to 600 R in Copa and paying for their own taxi.
Thanks for sharing your experiences in RJ. Very detailed and good read. Look forward to future reports.
It used to be that robing was the DeFacto standard. Going back a couple of years this has changed making robing optional. I tend to find it more relaxing in robe and I feel you get more attention because it shows your "Ready to do Business" as opposed to wearing civilian clothes.
So, in Termas where offered do you tend to go for the robe or not? So, what's your opinion pros or cons of the Robe?I always shake my head in disbelief when I see guys in street clothes in a terma. Come on, termas are expensive, it's supposed to be a (somewhat) luxury experience, and besides, why would you make it harder for a girl to rub her naked buttcheeck against your dick and harass you in the boite? I guess it's OK when you're short of time, but I just wouldn't go to a terma if I'm short of time. I like to take my time. I even used to take off my underwear to remove every obstacle to a close contact, but as their robes are getting smaller (LOL), the underwear stays these days. But that's the only compromise I'm willing to make, kkkk.
I always shake my head in disbelief when I see guys in street clothes in a terma. Come on, termas are expensive, it's supposed to be a (somewhat) luxury experience, and besides, why would you make it harder for a girl to rub her naked buttcheeck against your dick and harass you in the boite? I guess it's OK when you're short of time, but I just wouldn't go to a terma if I'm short of time. I like to take my time. I even used to take off my underwear to remove every obstacle to a close contact, but as their robes are getting smaller (LOL), the underwear stays these days. But that's the only compromise I'm willing to make, kkkk.One of the things I love about a termas (or a German FKK) is to shower and get into a robe (I always ask for a larger one). And I always go commando underneath (no underwear ever). Then you get into the boate and you've got a hottie tugging on your boner or backing her bubble butt ass crack up on your dick! Street clothes in a termas? Hell naw!
Vagabundo1
04-25-23, 09:41
Alot of those thugs in the booth next to the DJ in 4 x4 are actual thugs, and some are cops and judges, and some as has been mentioned here are carrying, which is easier in street cloths, and the girls like rubbing their clits on pieces of all types. Some are DEA, some are probably Iranian Navy now a days. Some are Obi Wan and Luke buying their way to points in between.
I always shake my head in disbelief when I see guys in street clothes in a terma. Come on, termas are expensive, it's supposed to be a (somewhat) luxury experience, and besides, why would you make it harder for a girl to rub her naked buttcheeck against your dick and harass you in the boite? I guess it's OK when you're short of time, but I just wouldn't go to a terma if I'm short of time. I like to take my time. I even used to take off my underwear to remove every obstacle to a close contact, but as their robes are getting smaller (LOL), the underwear stays these days. But that's the only compromise I'm willing to make, kkkk.
FlappyGilmore0
04-25-23, 17:49
Alot of those thugs in the booth next to the DJ in 4 x4 are actual thugs, and some are cops and judges, and some as has been mentioned here are carrying, which is easier in street cloths, and the girls like rubbing their clits on pieces of all types. Some are DEA, some are probably Iranian Navy now a days. Some are Obi Wan and Luke buying their way to points in between.Wait so in 4 x4 you're expected to walk around nude in a robe? Personally I wouldn't give a damn. Easier access. What about your feet though and do you get a locker for your things?
I've RTFF for my upcoming trip and missed this little nugget of detail.
MABS: Went once on a Friday or Saturday. Talked with a couple girls whose prices ranged from $60/ HR up to $200/ HR with most starting in dollars as opposed to Realis. Found the hottest girl and best*sex of my trip there. 3 hrs for 1000 R. She was a real estate agent from SP who had fallen on some rough times with work and family to came to RJ for 2 months to work. A natural 9 in my book with beautiful skin, 5'4" and natural 38 dd, 26,38 body. Did all night later in the week, going 11 pm to 6 am for 1500 R. Multiple pops and craziness. I know I overpaid a*little, but I really liked her and she*was starting at 2500 R which she said she normally gets (Scandallo prices!
-Chicago.Yeah, you waaaaaay over paid. But I am glad you enjoyed yourself! I highly doubt the real estate agent was getting 1 K for 3 hours from anyone else at Mabs, so I am shocked that she wasn't ringing your phone off the hook every single night to try and hook up again!!
Yeah, you waaaaaay over paid. But I am glad you enjoyed yourself! I highly doubt the real estate agent was getting 1 K for 3 hours from anyone else at Mabs, so I am shocked that she wasn't ringing your phone off the hook every single night to try and hook up again!!I agree with you on MABs, but she showed me whatsapp messages from Sao Paulo guys paying 2500 for all night so I got a deal compared to them LOL. She didn't message me once without me first engaging and I could see from her whatsapp and IG that she was out to 5 or 6 am and at some very nice places in Leblon and Barra de Tijuca. So certainly with someone.
While I do visit my share of massage parlors for 200 R I don't mind paying more for some quality. I'll leave the cheaper girls to others.
One of the things I love about a termas (or a German FKK) is to shower and get into a robe (I always ask for a larger one). And I always go commando underneath (no underwear ever). Then you get into the boate and you've got a hottie tugging on your boner or backing her bubble butt ass crack up on your dick! Street clothes in a termas? Hell naw!I should have asked for a larger robe. I'm 6'1" and a solid 210 lbs. So not that big, but not that small either. The robes were quite tight and I was afraid that the little soldier would be making regular appearances without the underwear. As it was, a couple of the girls saw me popping out and re-arranged the robe to help cover myself. I did ask two to sit on my lap / leg in Monte Carlo and they told me that was not allowed. This was late afternoon, but I imagine things are more liberal later at night.
AcesOnTheRiver
04-26-23, 04:27
Background- went with 7 other people, all of us between 25-35 for a bachelor party, stayed in Copacabana in a 8 bedroom rooftop penthouse. First time for all of us.
Day 1 - we went to Monte Carlo Monday around 7 pm. About 15 girls, amazing quality, only 2-3 other customers there. Ended up paying like 800-900 R, can't remember, this included entry, Drinks, and a 1 hour session. Around 11:00 pm we picked up girls from Casablanca. They charged between 600-900 R to stay from midnight until 5 am. Everyone did two rounds in the bedroom.
Day 2-Did the touristy stuff in the daytime with the statue and sugarloaf. Ended up getting girls from Marakesh around 11:00 pm- same deal.
Day 3- had a mansion pool party setup by an online bachelor party package. It was actually a mansion, about 10 bedrooms and about 6000 sq ft. The main guys name Is Itamar; if you come across him- Use his services, Theres only 3-4 bachelor party package websites for RIO. HES THE MAN. Mansion pool party was lit, it was about a 30 min drive, we had our own DJ, chef, bbq, open bar, and he brought 10 girls. We paid $50 USD each (500 usd total for the 10 party girls- fixed fee) for their presence between 8 of us, you were able to negotiate your own deal to sleep with them. They were the hottest girls we came across in the trip, but charged like $150 USD for one session at the mansion. Only 4 of the boys made a deal. Mansion party went from 2 pm to 10 pm. So decided to call it an early night, very exhausted and chilled at the penthouse.
Day 4- slow day, did haircuts, massages, etc during the day. Went to a proper nightclub at night as part of the bachelor party package, cant remember the name, it had an Italian vibe. Was a pretty nice upscale club and we had a nice VIP table. Some working girls, but none of us really put in the effort to find or talk to one. Left early (2:00 am) which is early for a nightclub, picked up girls from Marakesh, Casablanca, and Dolce vita between 8 of us. Since it was so late, around 3 am, it was slim pickings at the nightclubs, maybe max 5 girls at each maybe but everyone paid 500 or under 500R since it was 3 am and it was only for 2-3 hours tonight.
Day 5- had a yacht party. Same package, DJ, Chef, open bar, with bartender, 10 girls (4 were the same as the mansion party, 6 new ones). Amazing time, noon till 7 pm was the yacht party. Same routine at night, picked up girls between the 3 clubs, between 8 of us around 11-11:30 pm. (600-900 R for 4/5 hours).
Main Takeaways:
-Casablanca was the best club for us, as we got the most girls from there. Dolce Vita is hit or miss, and same with Marakesh. Casablanca had over 25 girls every single night if you go around 11:00 pm- midnight.
-Mabs is crap. Would never get a girl from there, mainly look like drugged up, unfriendly, working girls, no thanks. and theres always only like 5-7 girls there , so its never gonna happen.
-Monte Carlos is the only terma we visited, and it was a GREAT Experience. Unfortunately we were more into bringing girls back to the penthouse and partying for 4-5 hours with them.
- in Comparison to Colombia (been there many times), Brazilian girls provide Wayyyyyyyyy better service, more humble, nicer bodies, and it's about 30% cheaper. The girls genuinely care about you. Lately, in Colombia the girls are stuck up and service is decent at best. For example in Brazil of the 5 girls I hooked up with, didn't have to ask even one of them for a BBBJ, it was standard. This is unheard of in Colombia.
- I loved Brazil 10 x over Colombia. Only downside is coming from NYC, I don't think I can do that flight as frequently compared to Colombia (14 hours vs. 5 hours nonstop). That's the only downside. But no question Rio is the better option!! This is coming from someone whos been to Colombia about 8-10 times, and first time to Brazil. The girls are simply just nicer and just as hot if not hotter!! And cheaper, what more does a monger want
The Critic
04-26-23, 04:55
Background- went with 7 other people, all of us between 25-35 for a bachelor party, stayed in Copacabana in a 8 bedroom rooftop penthouse. First time for all of us.Nice, detailed report. Good you had a good time in RJ for your first time in Brazil. Interesting using a intermediary to set up Bachelor Party and Yacht Party. Mab's is definitely hit or miss (its heyday has long passed).
NYC to GIG can be hard without a Non-Stop Flight. Hope you can visit again soon despite the long flight.
The Critic
04-26-23, 05:41
Wait so in 4 x4 you're expected to walk around nude in a robe? Personally I wouldn't give a damn. Easier access. What about your feet though and do you get a locker for your things?
I've RTFF for my upcoming trip and missed this little nugget of detail. You RTFF? Quick Search Results.
I had my luggage in the locker room and the lady who gives you your robe and sandals looked after it.
3) The locker lady is a bit, um, jaded. LOL. I didn't see any robes after standing in front of the lockers for a few minutes then went looking for them and got yelled at. Don't worry, she'll come with slippers and your robe.
Greeted at the front desk by a lady who speaks very good English and was quite welcoming. Dropped all my things in the locker, changed into the threadbare robe and dollar store flip flops. Kept my phone and 200 rs.
When you first enter the reception area you are told the pricing structure and then given a locker key with a number. As I recall, the pricing consisted of your entry, the cost of the room that you choose and the cost of a girl for an hour and you pay before you leave (plus your drinks). I went into the locker room and changed into a robe and flipflops......
Bubba Boy on Termas
As a PSA to we few, I have gone so far as to cut and paste Bubba Boy's guide. I concur with all his wisdom, with some notes of my own.
A Termas works like this: You get greeted by a receptionist at the entrance, they will speak English at the places mentioned above, some in Centro may not speak as much but you will get by. She will give you a key to a locker. You go in to the locker room and put everything in there and change into a robe that is provided. That's right a bath robe. You can elect to wear your Calvin Kliens under the robe or you can go commando and let your boys be free. Flip flops are provided for your feet.
GringoItaliano
04-26-23, 05:48
How much does it matter what time you go to a prive / massagem / clinica?
The received wisdom among Medellin regulars (including me) is that the best time to hit the cheap Centro casas is either at 11 am, or about 1 hour after said establishments open. If you go too early when or after they open, enough girls will not have arrived yet. If you go too late, the lineup will have already been picked clean and run through by the rush of Colombian guys sneaking out of work for a lunch hour session. So you get a sort of "sloppy seconds" effect. The exceptions might be the higher-end, lower-volume casas outside Centro, like Energy and Loutron.
RJ regulars: do you believe that this wisdom holds true for Rio as well? Is the best time to go in the late morning, around 11, or about an hour or so after a given establishment opens? Or are the RJ prives / massagems / clinicas less time-sensitive than their counterparts in the Medellin casas?
Would you say that there is any difference in this regard between the cheaper and more numerous establishments in Centro and their pricier counterparts in Copacabana and elsewhere in the city?
Background- went with 7 other people, all of us between 25-35 for a bachelor party, stayed in Copacabana in a 8 bedroom rooftop penthouse. First time for all of us.
I have 2 words for you: HOLY SHIT! Looks like you really had a blast.
The only thing that's wrong about your trip is 5 days. I recently had to cut my stay short due to an emergency at home, and it really sucked. You need at least 10 days to enjoy Rio and justify that long flight. Although I do understand you guys were there on a mission. Well, at least your buddy will remember his bachelor party, LOL.
Nice, detailed report. Good you had a good time in RJ for your first time in Brazil. Interesting using a intermediary to set up Bachelor Party and Yacht Party. Mab's is definitely hit or miss (its heyday has long passed).
NYC to GIG can be hard without a Non-Stop Flight. Hope you can visit again soon despite the long flight.AA does fly to GIG in season. Based on the past history, I believe from November to March.
And Delta is about to start in December. Still 10 long hours, though.
Axel Heyst
04-26-23, 14:21
It is ok to wear street clothes inside RJ termas. I do 100% of the time. I know the perks from easy access, and yeah, I am a party pooper for not going along with the local tradition, but I still prefer to wear my street clothes when visiting the Termas in order to hold onto my phone in my jean pockets rather than to rely on flimsy terma-robe pockets provided.
Having a phone with me when I am with a terma girl and not worrying about the damn thing slipping out of my robe while I am distracted is very important to me ever since I began to use google translate + whatsapp. So, I will stick to my street clothes when in RJ.
P.S. Macau Saunas customers have to change their clothes before entering the main lounge and pool areas. I don't mind changing my clothes in these joints because a number of them are true 5 star bordellos with 1st class amenities. I mean who would mind taking off their clothes and stepping into a shower with a sexy Vietnamese girl first thing, to get cleaned up properly before putting on your fake silk sauna robe and entering the main areas. Still, one has to be very careful about the phone slipping out of one's pocket when least aware. Ha ha. It has happened to me a couple of times.
...... in Comparison to Colombia (been there many times), Brazilian girls provide Wayyyyyyyyy better service, more humble, nicer bodies, and it's about 30% cheaper. The girls genuinely care about you. Lately, in Colombia the girls are stuck up and service is decent at best. For example in Brazil of the 5 girls I hooked up with, didn't have to ask even one of them for a BBBJ, it was standard. This is unheard of in Colombia.
- I loved Brazil 10 x over Colombia. Only downside is coming from NYC, I don't think I can do that flight as frequently compared to Colombia (14 hours vs. 5 hours nonstop). That's the only downside. But no question Rio is the better option!! This is coming from someone whos been to Colombia about 8-10 times, and first time to Brazil. The girls are simply just nicer and just as hot if not hotter!! And cheaper, what more does a monger wantGreat that you had a blast and agree with you for Brazil over Colombia but do you really find the girls cheaper in Brazil?
Mr Enternational
04-26-23, 16:58
I have 2 words for you: HOLY SHIT! Looks like you really had a blast. Well, at least your buddy will remember his bachelor party, LOL.And he still wants to get married after that? Me and my wife went to Brazil on our first anniversary and even though I could not partake in the chicks, just seeing them was enough for me to know I did not want to be married anymore. I left the morning we got back.
It is ok to wear street clothes inside RJ termas. I do 100% of the time. I know the perks from easy access, and yeah, I am a party pooper for not going along with the local tradition, but I still prefer to wear my street clothes when visiting the Termas in order to hold onto my phone in my jean pockets rather than to rely on flimsy terma-robe pockets provided.
Having a phone with me when I am with a terma girl and not worrying about the damn thing slipping out of my robe while I am distracted is very important to me ever since I began to use google translate + whatsapp. So, I will stick to my street clothes when in RJ.Clearly a lot of us subscribe to the "When in Rome" philosophy.
I personally prefer to be in a robe like the local men. I also feel it creates a certain fraternité as the French put it. You can also get down to business quickly.
(I am tall, but I have nice legs. LOL.)
Axel Heyst
04-27-23, 02:03
Clearly a lot of us subscribe to the "When in Rome" philosophy.
I subscribe to the "When in Rome" philosophy too, just not in this case. Kkk.
Steve 9696
04-27-23, 02:22
Clearly a lot of us subscribe to the "When in Rome" philosophy.
I personally prefer to be in a robe like the local men. I also feel it creates a certain fraternit as the French put it. You can also get down to business quickly.
(I am tall, but I have nice legs. LOL.)Didn't don the robe at 4 x4 which we didn't care for so that was good. Just hightailed out of there. At Monte Carlo wore the robe. Several of the girls will get frisky with your thighs. Carol in particular is very hands on and would casually brush my shaft or ball sack. I have absolutely no doubt the ladies across the narrow bar could see me at full attention. Did I give a fuck? Damn I was all out. Not a single fuck to give. 😜.
Smokers Rule
04-28-23, 01:18
Main Takeaways:
-Casablanca was the best club for us, as we got the most girls from there. Dolce Vita is hit or miss, and same with Marakesh. Casablanca had over 25 girls every single night if you go around 11:00 pm- midnight.
-Mabs is crap. Would never get a girl from there, mainly look like drugged up, unfriendly, working girls, no thanks. and theres always only like 5-7 girls there , so its never gonna happen.
Thank you for your report and suggestions. I've never been to Casablanca and will now go on my next trip next week! Agree about Mabs. Go to 4 x4 next time!
I always shake my head in disbelief when I see guys in street clothes in a terma...., kkkk.I think they should sell season ticket. I would buy one and go there to use the facility at all hours. LOL.
At Monte Carlo wore the robe.I was in Rio one time and I believe it was at Monte Carlo where I saw a couple of guys wearing monogrammed robes LOL! Well they were big guys so I guess it was a good idea to bring their own personal robes that were a good fit for them. Worst robes in town were at Centaurus man all tattered and shit. Invest in the business why don't you? I mean you're charging enough!
AcesOnTheRiver
04-30-23, 05:53
Great that you had a blast and agree with you for Brazil over Colombia but do you really find the girls cheaper in Brazil?Def cheaper in RIO for me. I'm mostly getting girls over 90% of the time from the working girl night clubs (not strip clubs, not termas, not brothels, etc) In Rio I got girls this trip between Casablanca, Dolce Vita, and Marrakesh night clubs. In Cartagena I get them from La Dolce vita, Space, Delrium. So I would say that's a pretty perfect level playing field for price comparison. Between the 100's+ girls me and my boys must have gotten from Cartagena, we have always paid between 600-900 local currency for 5-6 hours (between midnight and 5 am- this is the fixed routine with my boys) We did the exact same routine in Rio and also paid between 600-900 local currency for the 30+ girls we got. But, Brazil money converts at 5/1 and Colombian pesos coverts at 4/1 (and Colombia used to be only 3/1 pre covid, and 2/1 when I first went in 2014).
So I definitely found Brazil cheaper, statistically I would say 25% cheaper based on the average numbers. This is strictly speaking for Cartagena and Medellin vs Rio, and working girl night clubs for take out. Not smaller towns, streetwalkers, websites/social media, strip clubs etc.
P.S.- Cartagena has been ruined by tourists (prolly myself included) over the past 5 years dramatically. Girls so stuck up (with shitty service) now they even quote you in USD dollars, in increments of 100's LOL. FK that. It doesn't look like Brazil has gotten there, not yet at least.
AcesOnTheRiver
04-30-23, 05:54
I have 2 words for you: HOLY SHIT! Looks like you really had a blast.
The only thing that's wrong about your trip is 5 days. I recently had to cut my stay short due to an emergency at home, and it really sucked. You need at least 10 days to enjoy Rio and justify that long flight. Although I do understand you guys were there on a mission. Well, at least your buddy will remember his bachelor party, LOL.
AA does fly to GIG in season. Based on the past history, I believe from November to March.
And Delta is about to start in December. Still 10 long hours, though.Nice, thanks for the flight info!! Can't wait until I'm back although it might be a couple years.
Pahllus Maximus
04-30-23, 07:58
Flights.
USA to Rio (GIG) direct is down to Houston & Miami. On the other hand, direct flights to Sao Paulo (GRU) can be had from NYC, Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, DC, Frankfurt, Madrid, London and maybe a few others. LAX offers via Panama or other connections. The bus or a short flight to SDU (Rio) via GRU. Or elsewhere (Brazil has wonderful cities outside of Rio with plenty of natural and feminine beauty).
Start by adjusting your sleep cycle to the destination the day before you leave.
My advice is to invest in some 3M ear plugs, noise cancelling headphones, a media player with a range of good series (Breaking Bad, Borgias, Das Boot etc) and others. Bring ample batteries and / or select an airline with power under seat or USB power. Take some books to read. I like listening to novels or even interactive language software if you have a boom mike and can practice. Girls appreciate your asking politely without ambiguity for them to provide any number of explicit sexual favors. Your do your oral practice, they do theirs.
Get yourself:
Lambs wool seat cover with some sticky Velcro pads to affix it (applies to business class).
Quality cashmere travel blanket.
Head / shoulder cushion.
High quality snack with fat, like macadamia nuts, apples. At altitude your salt and sweetness are about 25% impaired, so skip the airline chow that is ramped up with salt and sugar.
High quality eye mask (with special attention to nose) with holes so you can blink (I have mine custom made with fitted nose foam and raked cashmere fabric).
Prescription* for some sleeping pills, temazepam, triazolam, or maybe some THC / CBD jellies.
Nasal beathing tube / cannula and humidity mist supply (see bit about under seat power) similar to the Fremen on Arrakis in Frank Herbert's Dune. This enables you to avoid drinking too much and getting up to pee and you feel better.
Get a string and do ACCURATE measurements of length and girth of your dick and get some properly sized, thin condoms in bulk by mail order. This is the most important part and not doing so can ruin your fun. If you do risky (unprotected sex), get yourself some PREP. It will not save you from other nasties. And get checked every 3-6 months. Better for everyone.
Set a time and do stretches, bring a band, many you can do in your seat, like butt clenching and kegel / pubococcygeal exercise (men NEED to do this as well, along with aerobics and good vascular care makes for strong erections need for tonsil massages of beautiful young women and / or banging them).
See: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2050052115000025.
Seriously: smoking, lack of exercise, stress and alcohol with give you limp dick and early dementia and death. You owe to yourself to have a nice hard cock and full of lust for pussy and life itself. The thrill of chasing and landing 18-24 year olds, legs in the air and you balls deep is a good thing and that should be pursued into your 90's. The fat and ugly Karens will be at home (or trailer park) with their cats and cask wine watching re-runs of sex in the city or other bullshit.
Don't waste money on business class for a rock hard bed thousands have slept in. It's just as noisy (80-85 dB) as economy, the air is just as dry and your palate is crap. If you do the math it's like $US 100 per hour, a very expensive, noisy, bad humidity short time hotel. Save your money for limo pick up^^ and drop off or lesbian double you can join in.
Get TSA Global entry and / or a APEC pass (you can get for free with TSA Global) - bypasses the lines and often with diplomatic or air crew fast track. I know one mongers with a consular passports for some bogus honorary consulate thing. Free upgrades, no lines and the cops run when he produces it. Advanced users only.
All of this is an investment of about $1,500, but well worth it. At the suggestion on this board, I am going to get 2 custom robes (one in the wash whilst other in use) with zipper pockets for phones, pills or cash for easy groping access in the termas or FKKs.
* WARNING WILL ROBINSON: do not mix with alcohol, do not overdose, and if you have any cardio or beathing issues you should not touch it.
^^ Not worth in traffic snarled cities, take the train and have a nice massage and / or BJ waiting at the hotel.
Def cheaper in RIO for me. I'm mostly getting girls over 90% of the time from the working girl night clubs (not strip clubs, not termas, not brothels, etc) In Rio I got girls this trip between Casablanca, Dolce Vita, and Marrakesh night clubs. In Cartagena I get them from La Dolce vita, Space, Delrium....
So I definitely found Brazil cheaper, statistically I would say 25% cheaper based on the average numbers. This is strictly speaking for Cartagena and Medellin vs Rio, and working girl night clubs for take out. Not smaller towns, streetwalkers, websites/social media, strip clubs etc.
P.S.- Cartagena has been ruined by tourists (prolly myself included) over the past 5 years dramatically. Girls so stuck up (with shitty service) now they even quote you in USD dollars, in increments of 100's LOL. FK that. It doesn't look like Brazil has gotten there, not yet at least.While the prices you paid for all night are pretty good in both countries, I'd say that in my experience Colombia is around 25% cheaper. I haven't been to Cartagena, but have been to Medellin / Cali / Bogota probably 30 times over 12 years and Rio 2 times (small sample size). I also primarily do 2 hours as opposed to all night. I like my sleep LOL.
Flights.
USA to Rio (GIG) direct is down to Houston & Miami. On the other hand, direct flights to Sao Paulo (GRU) can be had from NYC, Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, DC, Frankfurt, Madrid, London and maybe a few others. LAX offers via Panama or other connections. The bus or a short flight to SDU (Rio) via GRU. Or elsewhere (Brazil has wonderful cities outside of Rio with plenty of natural and feminine beauty).There are more, but only in winter. Delta and LATAM from Atlanta. Same with American, also from JFK. And like I've mentioned in another post, Delta is starting service from JFK this December.
Here is a little tip. Morning flights from GRU to SDU were always ridiculously priced (I remember $300+ for a 40 minute flight) so fly to GIG instead, it should be cheaper. Riding a bus to Rio -- don't even think about it. Realistically, it's at least an 8-hour journey, and that's after 10 hours on a plane. Thanks but no thanks.
Get yourself:
Lambs wool seat cover with some sticky Velcro pads to affix it (applies to business class).What's that and why to business? KKKK.
Get a string and do ACCURATE measurements of length and girth of your dick and get some properly sized, thin condoms in bulk by mail order. This is the most important part and not doing so can ruin your fun. If you do risky (unprotected sex), get yourself some PREP. It will not save you from other nasties. And get checked every 3-6 months. Better for everyone.Well, I've done some reading about PREP. Not harmless. And like you said, it does nothing against other nasties. Quite honestly, guys who practice BBFS are kidding themselves unless you intend to wife up and test your woman.
As for condoms:
- Okamoto Zero One.
- Sagami Original 0. 01.
- Aoni.
I've only tried Okamoto and it totally justifies the hype and the price. It's muito, muito caro, should be at least $5 a piece, or it's a fake. Sagami is a bit cheaper and available in the States, while Aoni is not, I think. If Zero One is too rich for your onslaught, there are 002,003 and 004. I tried 003 and they're pretty good too and much cheaper.
Don't waste money on business class for a rock hard bed thousands have slept in. It's just as noisy (80-85 dB) as economy, the air is just as dry and your palate is crap. If you do the math it's like $US 100 per hour, a very expensive, noisy, bad humidity short time hotel. Save your money for limo pick up^^ and drop off or lesbian double you can join in.Yeah, well, I wish it was $100 an hour, but you'll be hard-pressed to find a business class fare to Brazil for $1 K each way. It's not happening, at least in this revenge travel reality.
Of course it's noisy, but lie-flat business seat vs economy is like day and night and lets you hit the ground running. Although I do agree. If you can't swing it with miles or some help from your employer, don't waste your money.
Get TSA Global entry and / or a APEC pass (you can get for free with TSA Global) - bypasses the lines and often with diplomatic or air crew fast track. I know one mongers with a consular passports for some bogus honorary consulate thing. Free upgrades, no lines and the cops run when he produces it. Advanced users only.I've had GE since it was introduced, and it doesn't include an APEC pass. I understand you must apply separately and pay the fee. Besides, this is an Asia thing, what does it have to do with Brazil?
And what upgrades are you talking about, can you elaborate?
All of this is an investment of about $1,500, but well worth it. At the suggestion on this board, I am going to get 2 custom robes (one in the wash whilst other in use) with zipper pockets for phones, pills or cash for easy groping access in the termas or FKKs.Man, you surely take the air transportation and termas dead-seriously but why would you need cash in the termas?
For just a phone and couple of pills, this little thingy make your custom-made robes totally unnecessary.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08GHKMR82?th=1
Get a string and do ACCURATE measurements of length and girth of your dick and get some properly sized, thin condoms in bulk by mail order. This is the most important part and not doing so can ruin your fun.
This is underrated advice and something I will 100% be doing before my next trip. Ill-fitting condoms really ruins the experience. Also I would recommend not letting the girls put the condom on you. From my experience they never know how to put it on correctly. They all tend to put it on the same way. By stretching it out over the dick and letting it snap down at the base. This is totally the wrong way. You're supposed to just place it on the tip of your dick then roll the base of the condom down.
Riding a bus to Rio -- don't even think about it. Realistically, it's at least an 8-hour journey, and that's after 10 hours on a plane.Yes, do think about it. A busride from Sao Paulo to Rio is about 6 hours, included a stop for eating. Very comfortable buses and a scenic ride.
Axel Heyst
05-01-23, 17:21
Yes, do think about it. A busride from Sao Paulo to Rio is about 6 hours, included a stop for eating. Very comfortable buses and a scenic ride.I have heard similar.
But what's going on with the price of Brazilian national airline tickets? I was recently searching the airline sites for roundtrip CGH-SDU-CGH flights, and I followed up on what turned out to be a 600-price offer from one of the airlines which included 1st row seats and 1 checked in bag. The price seemed very good & I almost bought the ticket until I realized at the last moment that the quoted price was in dollars not reais. The website switched from reais to dollars when I changed the language from Portuguese to English. KKK.
So, hell yeah, I am going to rent a car and drive to RJ. The bus would work almost as well for me, but I think it will be fun to have a car in RJ. I have heard some bus lines are very good.
Flights.
Don't waste money on business class for a rock hard bed thousands have slept in. It's just as noisy (80-85 dB) as economy, the air is just as dry and your palate is crap. If you do the math it's like $US 100 per hour, a very expensive, noisy, bad humidity short time hotel. Save your money for limo pick up^^ and drop off or lesbian double you can join in.Of everything you posted, this is the only thing I would push back on. I have suffered in economy for a long time being 6'2" and built to be an outside linebacker. Since shifting my budget to be in business class or better, I can truly start my vacation off in a more positive way compared to when I have been stuck next to a passive aggressive seat mate jockeying for arm and leg space. Coupled with someone next to me who fidgets the entire trip, moving away from sitting on top of each other has made a tremendous difference in how I personally want to travel.
But, to each his own.
...Very comfortable buses ...I just ride the bus at night and get a sleeper seat. It's not bad.
I have heard similar.
But what's going on with the price of Brazilian national airline tickets? I was recently searching the airline sites for roundtrip CGH-SDU-CGH flights, and I followed up on what turned out to be a 600-price offer from one of the airlines which included 1st row seats and 1 checked in bag. The price seemed very good & I almost bought the ticket until I realized at the last moment that the quoted price was in dollars not reais. The website switched from reais to dollars when I changed the language from Portuguese to English. KKK.
So, hell yeah, I am going to rent a car and drive to RJ. The bus would work almost as well for me, but I think it will be fun to have a car in RJ. I have heard some bus lines are very good.I was looking to buy a flight from SP to Rio the other day.
The cheapest price was $400, one way.
I was considering the bus option as well.
Then yesterday I checked the flight prices again.
GOL and TAM were still at $400, however, to my delight, most Azul flights dropped to $50 one way!
I snagged one!
Crazy!
Of everything you posted, this is the only thing I would push back on. I have suffered in economy for a long time being 6'2" and built to be an outside linebacker. Since shifting my budget to be in business class or better, I can truly start my vacation off in a more positive way compared to when I have been stuck next to a passive aggressive seat mate jockeying for arm and leg space. Coupled with someone next to me who fidgets the entire trip, moving away from sitting on top of each other has made a tremendous difference in how I personally want to travel.
But, to each his own.If I can fly in any class other than "cattle class economy" I'm going for it! Arrive well-rested and well-fed to start my journey off right! Yes sir! After flying in Business Class the first time there was no way in hell I could happily got back to Economy. It's like when I bought my first car with comfortable leather seats in it. No going back! When I fly for leisure these days now it's always premium class and above whenever possible. It's well worth it to me, including on the ground where your trip experience really begins. Being able to skip the long lines at the counter. And I like having lounge access to get away from the hustle and bustle and the "great unwashed" of a busy airport LOL! Being able to board earlier and be ensured of adequate overhead bin space. More room and a more comfortable seat. Better food and drink (and more of both too). And arriving without a sore neck! All of these things make avoiding Economy well worth it to me. There was a time when I couldn't afford it. But now I can, and I'm willing to spend the money (or miles) for all of the aforementioned reasons. Where I will try to save is on my hotel accommodations. I typically will usually go for 3-star hotels but sometimes 4-stars. I mean I spend so much time away from the hotel anyway. It just needs to be clean and comfortable enough with enough space to store my things, public transit and taxi accessible, and with a good internet connection. And I'm set! Haven't we all had this discussion in-depth before?
FlowState985
05-01-23, 21:56
GOL and TAM were still at $400, however, to my delight, most Azul flights dropped to $50 one way!GOL is a shitty airline, I wouldn't go with it if they pay me. LATAM from now on.
FlowState985
05-01-23, 22:07
So I definitely found Brazil cheaper, statistically I would say 25% cheaper based on the average numbers. This is strictly speaking for Cartagena and Medellin vs Rio, and working girl night clubs for take out. Not smaller towns, streetwalkers, websites/social media, strip clubs etc. That's interesting because girls at Dolce and Casablanca quoted me $200 USD per hour. I laughed hard and ignored them. Girls at Termas quoted $300 usd for 3 HR plus uber and then dropped to 1200 r for 3 HR. Funniest shit they kept try quoting me in usd. I guess too many gringos paying that kind of money there. No thanks.
That's interesting because girls at Dolce and Casablanca quoted me $200 USD per hour. I laughed hard and ignored them. Girls at Termas quoted $300 usd for 3 HR plus uber and then dropped to 1200 r for 3 HR. Funniest shit they kept try quoting me in usd. I guess too many gringos paying that kind of money there. No thanks.The 300 dollars for 3 hours is basically the price scale they reference when you pay for 3 hours at the terma. They figure if you can pay 100 bucks an hour to fuck them in the terma, then you should pay the same amount to fuck them in your hotel / apartment. As far as the 200 US for one hour, they are swinging for the fences. Once in a blue moon, a girl get a sucker. Sorry, I mean a gringo, who will pay astronomical prices (With the mind set of "this would cost me so much more back home! She will sprint back to her girlfriends and brag about how much money she made and then all of her friends will try the same price quote just to see if anyone is stupid enough to pay it.
AcesOnTheRiver
05-02-23, 04:37
If I can fly in any class other than "cattle class economy" I'm going for it! Arrive well-rested and well-fed to start my journey off right! Yes sir! After flying in Business Class the first time there was no way in hell I could happily got back to Economy. It's like when I bought my first car with comfortable leather seats in it. No going back! When I fly for leisure these days now it's always premium class and above whenever possible. It's well worth it to me, including on the ground where your trip experience really begins. Being able to skip the long lines at the counter. And I like having lounge access to get away from the hustle and bustle and the "great unwashed" of a busy airport LOL! Being able to board earlier and be ensured of adequate overhead bin space. More room and a more comfortable seat. Better food and drink (and more of both too). And arriving without a sore neck! All of these things make avoiding Economy well worth it to me. There was a time when I couldn't afford it. But now I can, and I'm willing to spend the money (or miles) for all of the aforementioned reasons. Where I will try to save is on my hotel accommodations. I typically will usually go for 3-star hotels but sometimes 4-stars. I mean I spend so much time away from the hotel anyway. It just needs to be clean and comfortable enough with enough space to store my things, public transit and taxi accessible, and with a good internet connection. And I'm set! Haven't we all had this discussion in-depth before?Lot of people pointing out the business class travel part. I agree business class is the way to go no question- I fly to Europe all the time for work (75% of the time in business) and man is it amazing. HOWEVER (the other 25% of the time), can we not pretend a lot of the times it's just insanely ridiculous and that the price is laughable? No way my company would allow it LOL- I've seen $8,000-10,000 flights to Europe in business, especially in the summer.
Back to Brazil- My ticket from NyC to Houston to Rio was $1300 on United (booked about 2-3 months in advance). When. I checked business it was $9,500 round trip LOL. When I checked two days before my flight, it was $8000 to upgrade seats, ONE WAY LOL. Sometimes airline pricing has no logic. Even the points upgrade was ridiculous. I find the best option is to ask at the gate, and sometimes you'll get lucky and they'll do it for $1000 one way (done this plenty of times to europe and India- Pre-Covid, and saved couple K each time). Business class pricing can be a nasty game.
UniversalX
05-02-23, 05:20
The 300 dollars for 3 hours is basically the price scale they reference when you pay for 3 hours at the terma. They figure if you can pay 100 bucks an hour to fuck them in the terma, then you should pay the same amount to fuck them in your hotel / apartment. As far as the 200 US for one hour, they are swinging for the fences. Once in a blue moon, a girl get a sucker. Sorry, I mean a gringo, who will pay astronomical prices (With the mind set of "this would cost me so much more back home! She will sprint back to her girlfriends and brag about how much money she made and then all of her friends will try the same price quote just to see if anyone is stupid enough to pay it.This is so true. I just quote what I am going to pay. I kind of negotiate (not really), I just indulge them to provide a price quote. If it fits in my budget ok. If its above, then I counter (not really, it's my best and only offer) if accepted cool if not walk.
Know what $100USD (or your country currency) is in $BRL, baseline it and go from there.
Lot of people pointing out the business class travel part. I agree business class is the way to go no question-
Back to Brazil- My ticket from NyC to Houston to Rio was $1300 on United (booked about 2-3 months in advance). When. I checked business it was $9,500 round trip LOL. When I checked two days before my flight, it was $8000 to upgrade seats, ONE WAY LOL. Sometimes airline pricing has no logic. Even the points upgrade was ridiculous.Business class pricing can be a nasty game.
I've flown 1st class & Business class and Economy (cattle) class so I know the difference. My overall issue is with the price disparity between economy class and business class, it's hard for me to justify the cost. The delta between airfares can fund my accommodations + on the ground activities!! I just can't seem to justify the cost. :(
I did the bus ride from SP to RJ last year and it was great.
I left around 6 am and got to RJ around 1 pm. There was a stop half way at a buffet place where you pay by the weight.
Only thing that sucked was that I had to go to the bus station to buy the actual ticket. If you know a girl who can help you buy it for you, use her CPF and credit card, and pay her the cash value then that would be best.
There are only so many leito camo seats available so best to get one before they sell out but usually they don't.
I went with a friend so we sat next to each other and we both slept like a baby.
You're going to want to sleep anyways so this is sort fo the best option for that to kill time before you can check in to your hotel room or airbnb.
I used aguia branca bus line and the photos are the seats we had.
Yes, do think about it. A busride from Sao Paulo to Rio is about 6 hours, included a stop for eating. Very comfortable buses and a scenic ride.We're talking specifically about connecting to Rio after an international flight. A bus ride from GRU is 7-10 hours, at least in the morning when flights from the USA Tend to land.
After a 10-hour flight, I don't feel like spending another 7-10 hours on the bus, but that's just me.
The point I was trying to make is that if you want to connect to Rio from GRU rather than change airports, look for flying to GIG instead of SDU because they tend to be much less expensive. Is it always the case? No, but more often than not, it is. Airlines know you'd rather land in the city, hence the markup.
If I can fly in any class other than "cattle class economy" I'm going for it! Arrive well-rested and well-fed to start my journey off right! Yes sir! After flying in Business Class the first time there was no way in hell I could happily got back to Economy. It's like when I bought my first car with comfortable leather seats in it. No going back! When I fly for leisure these days now it's always premium class and above whenever possible. It's well worth it to me, including on the ground where your trip experience really begins. Being able to skip the long lines at the counter. And I like having lounge access to get away from the hustle and bustle and the "great unwashed" of a busy airport LOL! Being able to board earlier and be ensured of adequate overhead bin space. More room and a more comfortable seat. Better food and drink (and more of both too). And arriving without a sore neck! All of these things make avoiding Economy well worth it to me. There was a time when I couldn't afford it. But now I can, and I'm willing to spend the money (or miles) for all of the aforementioned reasons. Where I will try to save is on my hotel accommodations. I typically will usually go for 3-star hotels but sometimes 4-stars. I mean I spend so much time away from the hotel anyway. It just needs to be clean and comfortable enough with enough space to store my things, public transit and taxi accessible, and with a good internet connection. And I'm set! Haven't we all had this discussion in-depth before?I'm with you on almost everything except hotels, but have you checked business class fares to Rio lately? It's between $6 K-10 K rt. I mean, that's a lot of sessions, not even mentioning hotel rooms.
If I can't get a lie-flat on miles or some ridiculous discount, I'll suffer in Economy for 10 hours rather than burn my budget.
Premium Economy is another option, but truth be told, it's much closer to economy than to business.
Only thing that sucked was that I had to go to the bus station to buy the actual ticket. If you know a girl who can help you buy it for you, use her CPF and credit card, and pay her the cash value then that would be best.I usually buy bustickets online using my CPF. If you buy the ticket on the bus company's website there will be no extra fee. However if you buy the ticket on other sites, like Clickbus and Queropassagem, they will add a fee. If you want to buy the ticket in advance it's often cheaper (depending on which city you are located) to take an Uber back and forth to the Rodoviaria than paying the Clickbus fee.
There are also agencies that sell bustickets. In Copacabana there are Guanatur on Rua Dias the Rocha 16 and Sami Tour on Av Nossa Sra de Copacabana 1022. They do charge a fee but you don't have to go to the Rodoviaria to buy your ticket and no CPF is needed.
Leito is the most comfortable, but I prefer Executivo. Executivo is much cheaper and the comfort is really good.
I did the bus ride from SP to RJ last year and it was great.
I left around 6 am and got to RJ around 1 pm. There was a stop half way at a buffet place where you pay by the weight.
Only thing that sucked was that I had to go to the bus station to buy the actual ticket. If you know a girl who can help you buy it for you, use her CPF and credit card, and pay her the cash value then that would be best.
There are only so many leito camo seats available so best to get one before they sell out but usually they don't.
I went with a friend so we sat next to each other and we both slept like a baby.
You're going to want to sleep anyways so this is sort fo the best option for that to kill time before you can check in to your hotel room or airbnb.
I used aguia branca bus line and the photos are the seats we had.I've not taken the bus before. That looks quite comfortable. But for me it's the time it takes that's the issue. That said, a roundtrip airfare between Sampa and Rio of $800 would likely force many to look for another option, including myself.
Lakeside32
05-02-23, 12:37
I did the bus ride from SP to RJ last year and it was great.
I left around 6 am and got to RJ around 1 pm. There was a stop half way at a buffet place where you pay by the weight.
Only thing that sucked was that I had to go to the bus station to buy the actual ticket. If you know a girl who can help you buy it for you, use her CPF and credit card, and pay her the cash value then that would be best.
There are only so many leito camo seats available so best to get one before they sell out but usually they don't.
I went with a friend so we sat next to each other and we both slept like a baby.
You're going to want to sleep anyways so this is sort fo the best option for that to kill time before you can check in to your hotel room or airbnb.
I used aguia branca bus line and the photos are the seats we had.That whole process can be a nightmare. I've done it twice goin from Riio to S. P. And the process was different both times. Luckily I booked thru FlixBus so the app was already on my phone. The bus station has numerous bus companies so the first time I had problems finding a FlixBus counter. Well there wasn't a FlixBus counter, but I was not allowed to exit the door without a pass from the counter even though I had the ticket for the ride. Well with 10 minutes to go I found what doubled as the FluxBus agent and finally I was allowed to go thru the turnstile. The second trip I just simply walked out to the bus without a problem. It was during all the chaos after the election so luckily all the roadblocks were removed 5 days before I made my journey to S. P.
Lot of people pointing out the business class travel part. I agree business class is the way to go no question- I fly to Europe all the time for work (75% of the time in business) and man is it amazing. HOWEVER (the other 25% of the time), can we not pretend a lot of the times it's just insanely ridiculous and that the price is laughable? No way my company would allow it LOL- I've seen $8,000-10,000 flights to Europe in business, especially in the summer.
Back to Brazil- My ticket from NyC to Houston to Rio was $1300 on United (booked about 2-3 months in advance). When. I checked business it was $9,500 round trip LOL. When I checked two days before my flight, it was $8000 to upgrade seats, ONE WAY LOL. Sometimes airline pricing has no logic. Even the points upgrade was ridiculous. I find the best option is to ask at the gate, and sometimes you'll get lucky and they'll do it for $1000 one way (done this plenty of times to europe and India- Pre-Covid, and saved couple K each time). Business class pricing can be a nasty game.I agree, the prices are laughable to some of the destinations in business class. What is even weirder is that if you shift your trip by a day forward or back, the prices are nearly 50% cheaper which makes little to no sense. When I fly in two weeks to SP, I will ask the gate agent about the price to upgrade my seats. I've always heard that tickets in general are cheaper at the airport compared to online or with an agent over the phone.
I've flown 1st class & Business class and Economy (cattle) class so I know the difference. My overall issue is with the price disparity between economy class and business class, it's hard for me to justify the cost. The delta between airfares can fund my accommodations + on the ground activities!! I just can't seem to justify the cost. :(This also makes sense and I will never judge anyone for how they want to spend their money when traveling. I know A LOT of people who don't mind traveling economy and that is cool with me. But I will share that most of the people who can tolerate economy for long flights have smaller frames, can sleep the entire flight, or zen out and not be concerned about their accommodations.
Premium Economy is another option, but truth be told, it's much closer to economy than to business.It really depends on the airline. On some carriers paying for premium economy is not worth it, while on others it absolutely is, like with EVA Air:
https://www.cntraveler.com/story/eva-air-premium-economy-review
It really depends on the airline. On some carriers paying for premium economy is not worth it, while on others it absolutely is, like with EVA Air:
https://www.cntraveler.com/story/eva-air-premium-economy-reviewThanks for the link.
My PE experience is very limited (only American and Cathay Pacific). But EVA is an exceptional airline on its own. I rode them in business, and it's a cut above Cathay Pacific business, which itself is quite good. I also read in your article that EVA's recline in PE is 120 degrees. That's insane! I don't know exactly what American recline is, but I can bet that it's just a few degrees over Economy. So, yes, it seems like EVA PE is in a class of its own.
That said, even a lousy PE product (like AA) is way better than economy. The leg rests help a lot. It's ridiculous how much they actually help to alleviate the pressure on your body. So it can be a viable alternative when not priced out of wack.
Of everything you posted, this is the only thing I would push back on. I have suffered in economy for a long time being 6'2" and built to be an outside linebacker.....What about if you sit next to a whale, its sheet torture. I bear it by fantasizing about the hottie I will next to in a few hours. Returning home is hell.
What about if you sit next to a whale, its sheet torture. I bear it by fantasizing about the hottie I will next to in a few hours. Returning home is hell.The closest I have come to sitting next to a whale was being assigned the middle seat on my way to Las Vegas when I was in my 20's smh.
I usually buy bustickets online using my CPF. If you buy the ticket on the bus company's website there will be no extra fee. However if you buy the ticket on other sites, like Clickbus and Queropassagem, they will add a fee. If you want to buy the ticket in advance it's often cheaper (depending on which city you are located) to take an Uber back and forth to the Rodoviaria than paying the Clickbus fee.
There are also agencies that sell bustickets. In Copacabana there are Guanatur on Rua Dias the Rocha 16 and Sami Tour on Av Nossa Sra de Copacabana 1022. They do charge a fee but you don't have to go to the Rodoviaria to buy your ticket and no CPF is needed.
Leito is the most comfortable, but I prefer Executivo. Executivo is much cheaper and the comfort is really good.Some online bus sites won't accept foreign credit / debit cards as well.
Only brazilian cards.
So always good to double check.
If all else fails definitely just go to the bus station and buy the tickets.
The difference between leito and executivo is like 50 BRL or something like that so really worth the extra 10 USD for the best comfort.
Vagabundo1
05-03-23, 17:21
I had Nina DePonca over yesterday for two fucks, and a deep tissue massage. Paid her 500 r which was high but she has been helping me with other things.
Nothing like a half hour blow job followed by 3 hole BBFS ass creampie to our favorite porn video, Fashionistas by Stagliano.
Then, motivated, I hopped city buses to centro, and hit:
1. 4 x4, where I was going to go in, but the ISGer in town was not on his zap so I.
2. went over to club 21, where there was only a girl I could see when I opened the door.
3. 116, where there was not a quorum of do-able girls.
4. 202, which is around the corner, and is bad ass, was packed, had a party going on, and has actual porn videos filmed there now.
https://www.xvideos.com/video75750971/primeira_gravacao_na_boate_clube_202_no_centro_do_rio_rua_teofilo_otoni
(credit to pv118 for the link to the videos at 202).
I did a 24 year old hottie for 100 for the half, then took a bus back to barra.
The second season of Dom is back on Prime. Haven't watched yet and honestly don't know if I want to because the real story of Dom ended at the end of the first season. Which means whatever comes next has got to be a pure fantasy.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13354188/
On the other hand:
- The first season was solid: tight script and great acting.
- Gratuitous sex and violence.
- Three things you can watch forever: fire, water and Rio.
If anyone is watching what do you think?
The second season of Dom is back on Prime. Haven't watched yet and honestly don't know if I want to because the real story of Dom ended at the end of the first season. Which means whatever comes next has got to be a pure fantasy.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13354188/
On the other hand:
- The first season was solid: tight script and great acting.
- Gratuitous sex and violence.
- Three things you can watch forever: fire, water and Rio.
If anyone is watching what do you think?I'm watching. I gave a heads-up back in March LOL: 2799500. I'm slowly going through the episodes. I like it, especially with it being based in Brazil, my favorite country other than the United States! One thing is that I think the show spends as much or more time analyzing Dom's father as it does on Pedro Dom himself. I look forward to finishing out Season 2, which surely will be the last one (I think). I really like looking at Isabella Santoni who plays "Viviane". That's what I like to fuck when I go to Brazil LMAO! Swear to God I pulled a garota out of the old Bomboa who looked like her, but with bigger tits. Yum, yum, yummy LOLOLOL!
I had Nina DePonca over yesterday for two fucks, and a deep tissue massage. Paid her 500 r which was high but she has been helping me with other things.
Nothing like a half hour blow job followed by 3 hole BBFS ass creampie to our favorite porn video, Fashionistas by Stagliano.
Then, motivated, I hopped city buses to centro, and hit:
1. 4 x4, where I was going to go in, but the ISGer in town was not on his zap so I.
2. went over to club 21, where there was only a girl I could see when I opened the door.
3. 116, where there was not a quorum of do-able girls.
4. 202, which is around the corner, and is bad ass, was packed, had a party going on, and has actual porn videos filmed there now.
https://www.xvideos.com/video75750971/primeira_gravacao_na_boate_clube_202_no_centro_do_rio_rua_teofilo_otoni
(credit to pv118 for the link to the videos at 202).
I did a 24 year old hottie for 100 for the half, then took a bus back to barra.I will be in Copacabana in two weeks for ten days definitely will check out more of the centro clubs this time. Thanks for the report.
Pahllus Maximus
05-04-23, 06:51
Thanks everyone for the corrections. NYC to GIG is 4,826 miles, which at 600 MPH is 8. 10 hours, and Europe to Rio 5,300, so figure 9 hours, but because aircraft have to climb / slow down, this adds time. However you look at it, a typic trip is 20 hours return plus ground transport and officialdom bullshit and / or lost / delayed bags (use a tracking tile. You have about a 5% chance of delay or problem depending on airline). Premium economy or business class is a very costly delta, and though I can afford it, it grates on me to pay so much knowing the savings could fatten my portfolio or be used to have a nicer hotel or lesbian duo four hand massage and other fun I can join in when I land. Picturing this scene in my mind on the plane puts a spring in my step and swelling of loins. So do the boutique restaurants in Rio and Sao Paulo. Especially when I have a pretty girl with me for dinner knowing her delicate little feminine lips will be soon stretched out with my throbbing member in her mouth. All of this is an exercise in deferred gratification and later fun that I make the sacrifice for.
Practicing language (voice recognition and feedback, podcasts, spoken novels or sudoko makes the time go quite quickly.
I also can donate the savings to charity and get a deduction. Maybe we should start a tax deductible non-profit for the betterment of young women in BR, with tonsil massage and a new form of Tai Chi I've been developing. Vagabundo has a similar martial arts charity, it involves the girls with their legs over his shoulders and practicing their kegel muscles with him impaling them, often with their friends at the same time.
I had Nina DePonca over yesterday for two fucks, and a deep tissue massage. Paid her 500 r which was high but she has been helping me with other things.
Nothing like a half hour blow job followed by 3 hole BBFS ass creampie to our favorite porn video, Fashionistas by Stagliano.
Then, motivated, I hopped city buses to centro, and hit:
1. 4 x4, where I was going to go in, but the ISGer in town was not on his zap so I.
2. went over to club 21, where there was only a girl I could see when I opened the door.
3. 116, where there was not a quorum of do-able girls.
4. 202, which is around the corner, and is bad ass, was packed, had a party going on, and has actual porn videos filmed there now.Hold on. Nina DePonca the 80's porn star? She lives in Rio?
Def cheaper in RIO for me. I'm mostly getting girls over 90% of the time from the working girl night clubs (not strip clubs, not termas, not brothels, etc) In Rio I got girls this trip between Casablanca, Dolce Vita, and Marrakesh night clubs. In Cartagena I get them from La Dolce vita, Space, Delrium. So I would say that's a pretty perfect level playing field for price comparison. Between the 100's+ girls me and my boys must have gotten from Cartagena, we have always paid between 600-900 local currency for 5-6 hours (between midnight and 5 am- this is the fixed routine with my boys) We did the exact same routine in Rio and also paid between 600-900 local currency for the 30+ girls we got. But, Brazil money converts at 5/1 and Colombian pesos coverts at 4/1 (and Colombia used to be only 3/1 pre covid, and 2/1 when I first went in 2014).
So I definitely found Brazil cheaper, statistically I would say 25% cheaper based on the average numbers. This is strictly speaking for Cartagena and Medellin vs Rio, and working girl night clubs for take out. Not smaller towns, streetwalkers, websites/social media, strip clubs etc.
P.S.- Cartagena has been ruined by tourists (prolly myself included) over the past 5 years dramatically. Girls so stuck up (with shitty service) now they even quote you in USD dollars, in increments of 100's LOL. FK that. It doesn't look like Brazil has gotten there, not yet at least.Bruh if you are regularly paying between $600-900 k in Cartagena you are fucking up the game big time. I take girls out the clubs there for $300-350ST, $450-500 LT. Guys need to grow a spine and stop letting girls dictate the price. What's even worse is half the girls there are from Venezuela, so they are really getting over on you.
I'm with you on almost everything except hotels, but have you checked business class fares to Rio lately? It's between $6 K-10 K rt. I mean, that's a lot of sessions, not even mentioning hotel rooms
.Business class fares like any fares vary, I'm looking at business class fares now for a future trip but it's long time away and from NY to gig it's $3,480. I usually only fly business class to Rio for the general service, comfort and lie flat seats. The food is better than coach but still sucks. Last year I got a first class seat to Brazil using miles at a great rate, the food was not much better and the seats were the same. During the covid years they had great deals using miles now they want too much miles, it's not worth it. It can blow the budget especially you're spending big part of your budget just for 10 hours of luxury when you can use that extra money on your 2 week trip. But I hate coach for such a long flight and I'm very spoiled having worked for the airlines many years ago and flying to Rio always first class which in those days was much different level than today. Life is short, live it up, buy the business class ticket, stretch out and enjoy yourself.
BigButtDetecto
05-05-23, 12:04
I am in rio right now. Anybody interested to visit VM?
Hold on. Nina DePonca the 80's porn star? She lives in Rio?I used to wank to her like crazy back in the day.
Thanks for the link. My PE experience is very limited (only American and Cathay Pacific). But EVA is an exceptional airline on its own.Also don't forget these (I've done Lufthansa to Europe several times and LATAM to South America is a real option for me now): https://www.cntraveler.com/story/airlines-with-premium-economy-cabins-worth-splurging-on.
I used to wank to her like crazy back in the day.I saw her perform live at the old Market Street Cinema in San Francisco years ago (you also used to go up in there and fuck the "dancers" LOL):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_Street_Cinema
Jimmy Boy 99
05-05-23, 17:25
Hold on. Nina DePonca the 80's porn star? She lives in Rio?He's not fucking Nina DePonca. That's what he calls the girl he is fucking that apparently looks like her.
Hello community! It's my first post here and I have already gotten a lot of info by reading several posts. My friend and I are going to Brazil for the first time for mongering and would gratefully appreciate getting some help from you all on the following:
Dates: June 3rd to June 11th (flying in and out of Sao Paulo).
1. How many nights should we be in Sao Paulo vs Rio (8 nights total). I am currently thinking 2 nights in SP, 5 nights in Rio, and the last night again in SP before we fly out.
2. In rio. Which hotel should we stay in? Thinking of getting our own rooms as are intentions are to have a girl over every other night in our room. We were ideally looking for a sure shot girl friendly hotel (something on or close to the beach).
- Confused between Sheraton in Leblon and some Copa / Ipanema hotels. Some threads mentioned that Sheraton is not a girl friendly hotel, but some said that it is.
Steve 9696
05-06-23, 03:18
Hello community! It's my first post here and I have already gotten a lot of info by reading several posts. My friend and I are going to Brazil for the first time for mongering and would gratefully appreciate getting some help from you all on the following:
Dates: June 3rd to June 11th (flying in and out of Sao Paulo).
1. How many nights should we be in Sao Paulo vs Rio (8 nights total). I am currently thinking 2 nights in SP, 5 nights in Rio, and the last night again in SP before we fly out.
2. In rio. Which hotel should we stay in? Thinking of getting our own rooms as are intentions are to have a girl over every other night in our room. We were ideally looking for a sure shot girl friendly hotel (something on or close to the beach).
- Confused between Sheraton in Leblon and some Copa / Ipanema hotels. Some threads mentioned that Sheraton is not a girl friendly hotel, but some said that it is.In Rio really enjoyed Arena Leme all the way at the northeast end of Copa beach. Well priced super nice and beachfront. Pool is tiny like a hot tub. If that matters. Otherwise great with rooftop bar and amazing view. I walked my girl straight past the front desk at 10 pm and absolutely no discussion. All good.
Hello community! It's my first post here and I have already gotten a lot of info by reading several posts. My friend and I are going to Brazil for the first time for mongering and would gratefully appreciate getting some help from you all on the following:
Dates: June 3rd to June 11th (flying in and out of Sao Paulo).
1. How many nights should we be in Sao Paulo vs Rio (8 nights total). I am currently thinking 2 nights in SP, 5 nights in Rio, and the last night again in SP before we fly out.
2. In rio. Which hotel should we stay in? Thinking of getting our own rooms as are intentions are to have a girl over every other night in our room. We were ideally looking for a sure shot girl friendly hotel (something on or close to the beach).
- Confused between Sheraton in Leblon and some Copa / Ipanema hotels. Some threads mentioned that Sheraton is not a girl friendly hotel, but some said that it is.1. IMHO, you're setting yourselves for a disappointment. Both are huge cities, and you don't have enough time for either of them, especially since this is your maiden voyage. If you can't stay longer, do SP OR Rio, but not both.
2. If you pick Rio, forget Sheraton. It's GF, at least was 9 years ago, but better stay in Copa to be close to everything. Leblon is not far, but it can take a while to get anywhere in Rio traffic. Read the hotels thread for GF hotels in Copa, or find a 2-bdrm GF Airbnb. Hilton and JW Marriott are both GF.
Business class fares like any fares vary, I'm looking at business class fares now for a future trip but it's long time away and from NY to gig it's $3,480. I usually only fly business class to Rio for the general service, comfort and lie flat seats. The food is better than coach but still sucks. Last year I got a first class seat to Brazil using miles at a great rate, the food was not much better and the seats were the same. During the covid years they had great deals using miles now they want too much miles, it's not worth it. It can blow the budget especially you're spending big part of your budget just for 10 hours of luxury when you can use that extra money on your 2 week trip. But I hate coach for such a long flight and I'm very spoiled having worked for the airlines many years ago and flying to Rio always first class which in those days was much different level than today. Life is short, live it up, buy the business class ticket, stretch out and enjoy yourself.I hear you, but even 3. 6 would be too rich for my blood. I'd hate breaking my brain trying to calculate how much fun I could've had for that kind of dough, kkkk.
To me, the realm of possible is when Biz fares are within 250% of coach. That much I can justify -- still grudgingly, LOL.
Miles are the best, but super-hard to redeem for Biz nowadays, unless you're very flexible.
Vagabundo1
05-06-23, 12:44
Friday Night Lights -.
Vagabundo linked up with an ISGer in Botafogo and had a meal at Na Brasa Colombia, always excellent.
We took metro to 202. Wow, what super talent. The best ones were scooped up before I could session, but arriving 18 h is optimal.
Around the corner at 116, it was packed, and lots of good talent. 116 is loud and smoke filled. Two times I tried to take a fave up to a room. Both times there was a delay and the f'kin local music and smoke drove me to cancel, and they gave me my70 r for 20 minutes back, and I joined wingman who wanted to go.
Between those venues we also went to an little club 04 where michelle noemie bilas Obama spreads her big negra cheeks on command for rabbi vagabundo's bratwurst.
Then to club 31, which had just 4 girls, and wingman said lets move on.
Mv30 cover 25 was to his and my liking, perhaps more upscale in that there is an actual boate, and an actual pool room, and the cover keeps the customers who pay nada at 202 and 116 out.
But that was about enough, so we headed "home" whatever that means, and ubered out like space aliens leaving earth 54,000 years ago.
Roughly that's how I feel.
I regretted not fucking that old fave at 116, but the fucking pounding music and the second hand smoke. At 116 or 202, the best is to get in and fuck. But they are great clubs. So much porn quality talent.
The hotel on the darkside at rua the inhuama 95 is closed.
It's a ravenous town.
Friday Night Lights -.
Vagabundo linked up with an ISGer in Botafogo and had a meal at Na Brasa Colombia, always excellent.
We took metro to 202. Wow, what super talent. The best ones were scooped up before I could session, but arriving 18 h is optimal.
Around the corner at 116, it was packed, and lots of good talent. 116 is loud and smoke filled. Two times I tried to take a fave up to a room. Both times there was a delay and the f'kin local music and smoke drove me to cancel, and they gave me my70 r for 20 minutes back, and I joined wingman who wanted to go.
Between those venues we also went to an little club 04 where michelle noemie bilas Obama spreads her big negra cheeks on command for rabbi vagabundo's bratwurst.
Then to club 31, which had just 4 girls, and wingman said lets move on.
Mv30 cover 25 was to his and my liking, perhaps more upscale in that there is an actual boate, and an actual pool room, and the cover keeps the customers who pay nada at 202 and 116 out.
But that was about enough, so we headed "home" whatever that means, and ubered out like space aliens leaving earth 54,000 years ago.
Roughly that's how I feel.
I regretted not fucking that old fave at 116, but the fucking pounding music and the second hand smoke. At 116 or 202, the best is to get in and fuck. But they are great clubs. So much porn quality talent.
The hotel on the darkside at rua the inhuama 95 is closed.
It's a ravenous town.Nice report, where is club 202 and club 04? I will be in Rio on May 22. Thanks.
Hello community! It's my first post here and I have already gotten a lot of info by reading several posts. My friend and I are going to Brazil for the first time for mongering and would gratefully appreciate getting some help from you all on the following:
Dates: June 3rd to June 11th (flying in and out of Sao Paulo).
1. How many nights should we be in Sao Paulo vs Rio (8 nights total). I am currently thinking 2 nights in SP, 5 nights in Rio, and the last night again in SP before we fly out.
2. In rio. Which hotel should we stay in? Thinking of getting our own rooms as are intentions are to have a girl over every other night in our room. We were ideally looking for a sure shot girl friendly hotel (something on or close to the beach).
- Confused between Sheraton in Leblon and some Copa / Ipanema hotels. Some threads mentioned that Sheraton is not a girl friendly hotel, but some said that it is.2 nights in SP and 5 in Rio is good. Make sure you goto Scandolla in Sao Paulo. And make sure you goto 4 x4 in Rio. Enjoy.
BigButtDetecto
05-06-23, 22:34
I spent 3 days in SP and 3 in Rio; its not much but enough to get a glimpse of the action. As a newbie, I like Rio better. It has this vacation feeling that I did not get I SP. Also, everything is concentrated close to Copa. In Sp it cost me a lot in taxi.
4 x4 is great. Lots of women and very affordable.
Tonight I will go to mosaico but I have to wait till 10 when the girls start to arrive.
I did not find anybody to come with me so I will be extra careful and not wander too much in the streets.
- Confused between Sheraton in Leblon and some Copa / Ipanema hotels. Some threads mentioned that Sheraton is not a girl friendly hotel, but some said that it is.Sheraton Leblon is GF and a very decent hotel. It is however a 10-30 minute ride away from action in Ipanema and Copa.
Axel Heyst
05-07-23, 14:32
Sheraton Leblon is GF and a very decent hotel. It is however a 10-30 minute ride away from action in Ipanema and Copa.The Sheraton is not on a particularly nice or clean beach and its isolated location is not great either. So I prefer to stay at hotels on Copa or Ipanema Beach or when I want to focus more on the beach and nature activities, I will stay at a hotel on Barra. The RJ Hyatt is fucking great, but the Hyatt is a minimum 35-minute ride to 4 x4. That is the trade-off.
To sum up: I have stayed at and recommend the Windsor California and the Fairmont on Copa, and the Hyatt on Barra, Of these 3 hotels, the Hyatt is the nicest, IMHO, and on the best stretch of beach. The Fairmont has a great location to enjoy both Copa AND Ipanema Beaches. The Windsor California is smack dab in the middle of Copa Beach and close to a few Copa nightclubs, pick up bars, and Terma Monte Carlo. The Fasano Hotel is an exceptional hotel too with a great location. I stayed there once during the Covid BS in April 2021 for a really low rate. Today, Fasano will run you almost 3 times as much money. But if you don't mind paying its extraordinary price, it's a great hotel in a great location on Ipanema beach and it is walking distance to Copacabana beach.
BigButtDetecto
05-07-23, 16:30
So I booked hotel malaga close to villa mimosa. I is a love hotel, very safe and comfortable. My room was very quirt except for moanings but not too loud. It is 10 min to VM walking but not recommended. I took a cab for $ 4 USD. I arrived at 1000 pm but it was too early. The girls did not really arrived before midnight. There where around 40 girls in the club; although all of them were doable, nobody really caught my attention. I paid my 6 $ usd and left at 130 and got a black girl with big bubble butt for $ 25 Usd for 1 hour.
However I just stayed 20 min as it was a really small cabin.
Overall, Vm is not as big as I thought but not as scary too.
Would I return? Fck yes.
Vagabundo1
05-07-23, 16:49
So, second below is a report by Dante, an artist of long standing on gparena.net.
If you are coming to Rio, every hour you spend on GParena will pay dividends.
It is a fair report, but the best talent is at 116 and 202 (around the corner on the Av Pres Vargas side, rua teolino or something like that, see my previous post to xvideos chanel damas e vagabundos, being a vagabundo, I approve).
So, the week in baseball.
I fucked a hot negra with a hot negra bundinha, tight, athletic, and with a super tight ass, not just the bundinha but the cuzinha, her eyes bugging out as I drilled her ass, her pussy getting wet to the touch of my fingers up her pussy past her clit as I gave her a colonoscopy after face fucking the negra's mouth with her big wet black lips, getting the gagging at the back of the throat, the eyes rolling back as I choked the negra before going straight to the ass in motel sheik. That was Monday, just because I wanted to fuck a tight negra ass. I took a indriver to centro, 40 r. I paid for 4 hours 90 r. I paid the negra 150 r. She stayed for all of 20 minutes, a well practiced session. Next time, I will probably give her multiple creampies up her ass, but I just wanted a quick shot of jameson's neat, and I scratched the itch, 40 r back to barra in indriver.
So, then I guess Tuesday nina deponca came over for a massage deep tissue, and two fucks, straight up her mulatta ass, along with 20 minute blow jobs. She shaved me balls and my ass, and I made her lick my ass (beijos negra). So, I paid her 500. I may have noted that previously here in these pages.
A regular negra came over Wednesday just for the afternoon, and we fucked BBFS, between a local favorite restaurant, camarada camarao. Highly recommended. BBFS 20 year old pussy and the shrimp chopp never get old.
Thursday I met nina deponca up in caixas at a new hotel, hotel center or something. We fucked once, and I got a few massages. 300 r.
I met up with an isger and a patrol of 116,202, mv30, club 31,04, as noted in a previous post. 202 before or after 4 x4. Trust me. Here's the thing. Local girls hate gringos, but they go to 4 x4 for higher pay. 4 x4 quality girls prefer to be at 202 or 116. Because those are local clubs, bomberinho, see dante's post below. So, get your gem at 116 or 202. Especially 202. OMFG, what mulatta PSE talent.
Sabado.
Met up with ISGer Wadpha at metro osorio. Great wingman. Fair wings and following seas. We went to metro uruguiana and went over to Emporio do Banho. Wingman selected a hot little morena on 3 d floor. Vagabundo requested nani, by name. It was 13 h40 hours. Half hour 100 r. I fucked Nani like a perverted rabbi banging a daughter of one of my congregation in a secret hook up in the bedroom of a centro sex emporium after kind of lame french kisses, and sucking on her porn star perfect morena clara nipples. She comes into the room, I am showered, spread eagled, jerking off my dick, condoms and my 100 r on the second bed in the very nice rooms, and she starts sucking my erect penis. No deep throat, no 69, I am probably her 3 d fuck of the day. I revel in the pure seedy decadence of this low rent sperm donor clinic. She lubes my dick, slides on the skyn condom, lubes the rubber around my phallus, and sits on me, and rides me, and it is a good fuck. Then after 5 minutes we go to frango assado, which is missionary with her legs up around my ears, and I pile drive her for 15 minutes as hard as I can.
By the way, pro tip coming here, I play felipe ret, full album.
That music is close to being weed. If you want better fucks, then play felipe ret.
All the time I am fucking her, I say romantic things like.
Quanto pirocas vc fude hoje (how many dicks have you fucked today).
Vc quer suruba com pretos (you want a gang bang with black guys).
Yes.
Vou levar vc no praia nudismo e vc chupa dez pirocas (I will take you to a nude beach and you will suck ten dicks).
Then I flipped her over into doggy style (de quatro), and I came.
I paid her the 100 and tipped her 20.
Monica mattos quality little morena who even jimmy boy fucked, which is the highest rating you can have in rio de janeiro / Brazil prives.
https://www.emporiodobanhorj.com/massagistas
OK, now, all ye good jews gentiles christians muslims heathens and even women with strapons I want YOU to come to rio and fuck Nani at Emporio, and to inject 100 r into the BRIC bank, and all together praise its president Dilma ALL of you. Be a good customer.
I recommend a dupla.
She is actual friends (get on her insta) with monique, a mulata morena with a perfect ass.
I mean its cheap. For the price of a hour, 100 meters away at 4 x4 you could do nani and monique as a warm up fuck.
You should.
Just so as a newly escaped prisoner from pussy prison USA man park you don't act like a sex crazed gringo bad client all too hungry at 4 x4, like most of you who escape from your gamer bedroom in your mother's house in some colony of vikings in a northern American state, having your one month in 11 of sexual freedom.
Go fuck Nani. Hot ass white girl.
OK, so, then after fucking nani, which again, all of you should do too, Vagabundo and Wadpho met up at spoleto, across the street.
Sala Rua do Rosário, 135 - 202 e 302.
Is the address for Emporio BTW, for all you sports fans who are not actually in rio but are dripping pre cum all over your keyboards.
Then we went over to darkroom, where there were 3 sperm donor nurses on duty.
Any, dara, and.
Vagabundo picked dara.
Because it's just 100 r for a half hour, and it's cardio.
First, she was timid, asking me to shower, but I just had.
She smelled my dick, and after smelling fresh soap from around the corner at emporio, she licked the tip.
No deep throat.
I mean, fine.
No kissing. Eh, but the main feature with dara is huge, natural, 36 DD did I mention double fucking the, low hanging tits. Oh man, mulatta tits. Firm and saggy to the touch, with HUGE nipples. I was back in the crib breast feeding as I sucked on those nipples and closed my eyes and rolled back in my lizard brain to being a 3 month year old in the Rothschild mansion in mother fucking Lugano, Switzerland, where we Jewish members of the Italian Swiss guard hatched a plot to start Swiss navy brand of anal sex lube.
She doesn't do anal.
But for my 20 USD sucking on those big tits with nipples far larger than a Kennedy silver half dollar was worth every centavo.
She did suck my dick, just the tip, but I got hard, which was saying something after fucking Nani just 20 minutes before like a man deeply in both love and sadistic perverted lust.
Then she lubed my dick, just a drop.
Then she put my second skyn condom of the afternoon onto my erect member (by the way, swiss navy LLC LTDA does have a cross marketing deal with SKYN so go buy some SKYN condoms). Haha, that is just a joke, bad lawyer humor.
And she sat on my dick with her pussy which had already given birth to one child.
I fucked her for 3 minutes, then to doggy style for another 4 minutes, maybe. I usually do lie in my writing. As hemingway said, all great writers are liars. Uris too. But I digress.
I faked a orgasm. I was getting a little soft, and I knew I didn't have another load in me at the moment. So it goes. I asked for and she gave me a tepid massage, perhaps because I didn't shower.
I staggered back out to the bar area, linked up with wingman, and we ubered back. Great day. I have been texting some other regulars, so as I write this on a Sunday, I may still have a few more loads to blow in rio's finest hoars' hot boxes, which beats jerking off while playing your favorite game on your desktop computer back in man park, castrated by AOC in pussy prison.
Here in Rio, you can:
1. fuck an AOC, ie, Nani, whom I shall designate callsign AOC.
2. while fucking Kamala Harris, ie, Monique, whom I shall designate callsign Kamala.
All while AOC eats Kamala's clit, tongue on clit (which is grelo or greluda in the local language). Just play felipe ret.
https://gparena.net/td-show.php?t=171#gsc. Tab=0.
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Back to the cabaret. As I said, I'm a little tired of freelance girls, nothing that appeals to me at the moment or that seems to meet my more specific expectations. Also, I need the thrill of the hunt, even if it's simulated. Freelancers are for sedentary clients, I'm older, I need movement and cognitive stimuli. I decided on a place I hadn't been to for months, the notorious Bombeirinho, in the most remote corners of Rua the Conceição.
It became unhealthy to walk along Avenida Marechal Floriano after a certain night, so I opted to take Presidente Vargas, cross a limbic square on the side of Rua the Conceição and finally reach number 116. The bar on the corner was still open, I sat down I went to one of the empty tables and asked for a Black Label, it's a well-stocked bar and they brought my order right away. Three doses to strengthen the soul and gain momentum to climb the countless stairs that separate the street from the hell lane.
The house is gloomy, poorly maintained and the most accurate description I can give of the room where the girls show off is to compare it to a cave. To be surgical, the environment reminds me of the Batcave from the movies. The place wasn't full, I counted more women than men. I danced up to the counter and ordered an Ice.
There is a moment in the alcoholic process when the pupils dilate, the colors are accentuated, the lights are brighter and bottled happiness is released and dominates us in a wave of euphoria. That's what I felt suddenly, without warning. I reached drunken status.
I have a good feel for the brothel scene. More than luck, the instinct for a good choice favors me. The last one was the warm Cacau, which I met at Só Love on Rua the Alfândega. I was contemplating the Bombeirinho runway and saw a white girl appear, breasts on display, a small belly adorned with sections from a workout, thick legs and a face without facial harmony and pretty even so. I framed the target in the crosshairs and moved forward to approach her.
She introduced herself as Jane. Up close, she revealed herself to be more attractive and, above all, fragrant. She used those perfumes that mark the memory more than the senses. She asked me for a Red Bull, I didn't deny it and we sat down for the basic interview.
"What don't you do? I ask straight away.
"I just don't like to be spanked," she replies with a dubious smile.
I confirmed the woman's predisposition by throwing in a few more items from my questionnaire and she completed the survey with flying colors. Alcove.
Bombeirinho's rooms are not rooms, they are cells. Tiny, the only decoration is a kind of miniature sofa that looks like a divan and where a good balance is needed to practice sex. One false move and the ground is the limit for a fall that can be embarrassing.
Jane is a very good kisser, she delivers her tongue, her lips, her saliva. Royal kiss. I always say that there are working girls who say they kiss and at the moment I kiss teeth, hair, nose, eyebrows and I never find the mouth. I don't know what these imposters mean by a kiss on the mouth. Jane kisses shamelessly, without control.
If she bends down to suck me, she bites the oppressed Pikachu — the short one — causing me to feel as if she was sucking me not with her mouth, but with her larynx. My cock went deep, as if it were being invited to meet the girl's intestines. The depth of Jane's penile hunger caused a few more of my fragile pubes to turn white. Extraordinary blowjob, which forced me to use Buddhist techniques to avoid premature ejaculation. I thought of the advertising for the Boston Group, the Feira de São Cristóvão, the pastry with sugarcane juice, and I managed to prevent my sap from overflowing too soon.
Jane came over to kiss me more as she rubbed dangerously against the little Pikachu. I confess, I was good. The girl wanted to tease me, like she wanted to see what I would do with the condom. At one point, we were so tangled up that a photo could have the viewer mistaking us for Siamese twins. On the brink of penile collapse, I asked her to get on all fours.
The girl lifted her ass in the erotic toboggan configuration, the position I like the most. My cock was not hard, but petrified, I entered slowly, praying and thanking the grace received. Jane, more than anyone, is a woman to be fucked on her knees. I punched at an increasing rate, the pervert moaned loudly, wiggled, contracted her vagina in a way capable of driving a man crazy. When I came, I came so hard I felt like I was going to dissolve along with the orgasm. I fell almost unconscious on the small divan, scaring away a few thousand mites.
There was no time left for a chat. I put on my clothes and went back to the streets. If someone on the sidewalks warned me that I was levitating, I would certainly believe it. The adventure continues. Dance.
One Eyed Man
05-07-23, 17:00
Sheraton Leblon is GF and a very decent hotel. It is however a 10-30 minute ride away from action in Ipanema and Copa.The Sheraton has a free shuttle that will drop you anywhere along the beach and goes to the mall.
Vagabundo1
05-07-23, 17:01
Great post, especially about using malaga as a temporary base.
The thing to do is to walk DURING THE DAY to VM, and also to massagemtijuca.
Go to eat at aconchega carioca, just across the street from malaga!
Do map recon on google.
https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro
Guide of motels above.
Professionals study logistics.
The 6 s's -- shit shower shave supper sex sleep -- are all on that link.
Spend 80 reais for a microfiber blanket maybe, and get a suite with a hidro.
https://www.massagemtijuca.com/
Walk during the day to massagemtijuca, mosaico, vm.
Good 2 km walk or even jog.
Even if you stay in the hilton in copa, stay a few nights in motel malaga, and in largo do machado, in motel bambina or motel panda.
Ok, here's a little social history geographical note.
On the same block as panda is a church which is the result of the founder of rio de Janeiro. Riddle that and you understand rio.
Great report.
So I booked hotel malaga close to villa mimosa. I is a love hotel, very safe and comfortable. My room was very quirt except for moanings but not too loud. It is 10 min to VM walking but not recommended. I took a cab for $ 4 USD. I arrived at 1000 pm but it was too early. The girls did not really arrived before midnight. There where around 40 girls in the club; although all of them were doable, nobody really caught my attention. I paid my 6 $ usd and left at 130 and got a black girl with big bubble butt for $ 25 Usd for 1 hour.
However I just stayed 20 min as it was a really small cabin.
Overall, Vm is not as big as I thought but not as scary too.
Would I return? Fck yes.
So, second below is a report by Dante, an artist of long standing on gparena.net.
It is a fair report, but the best talent is at 116 and 202 (around the corner on the Av Pres Vargas side, rua teolino or something like that, see my previous post to xvideos chanel damas e vagabundos, being a vagabundo, I approve).
... Trust me. Here's the thing. Local girls hate gringos, but they go to 4 x4 for higher pay. 4 x4 quality girls prefer to be at 202 or 116. Because those are local clubs, bomberinho.... So, get your gem at 116 or 202. Especially 202....So you're saying that local girls hate gringos and that 202 and 116 have better talent than 4 x4 all else equal? That's the first I'm hearing of this! I've had girls tell me that the hygiene of locals is worse and of course we pay better (and sometimes tip).
Vagabundo1
05-07-23, 21:37
Yes that is what I am saying.
They want someone who speaks their own language.
Even if they have a dirty asshole and are poor.
I am saying the best talent at 116 (photos to follow) are as good as 4 x4. And at 150 for the hour, just go blow a load and see.
So you're saying that local girls hate gringos and that 202 and 116 have better talent than 4 x4 all else equal? That's the first I'm hearing of this! I've had girls tell me that the hygiene of locals is worse and of course we pay better (and sometimes tip).
So, second below is a report by Dante, an artist of long standing on gparena.net.
If you are coming to Rio, every hour you spend on GParena will pay dividends.
It is a fair report, but the best talent is at 116 and 202 (around the corner on the Av Pres Vargas side, rua teolino or something like that, see my previous post to xvideos chanel damas e vagabundos, being a vagabundo, I approve).Thanks for another fantastic report.
Dante is an amazing writer. Even via Google Translate he's fun to read, which I didn't think was possible until I found his musings. Find his report from 4 x4 about a girl who tried to sell him Herbalife. I laughed so hard, my jaw hurt.
Totally agree about Gparena. It's a treasure and has all the info anyone might ever need in Rio.
Yes that is what I am saying.
They want someone who speaks their own language.
Even if they have a dirty asshole and are poor.
I am saying the best talent at 116 (photos to follow) are as good as 4 x4. And at 150 for the hour, just go blow a load and see.I will be in Rio in 2 weeks. I wil check out 202. Its hard to believe that 202 has the same talent as 4 x4. But seeing is believing.
Vagabundo1
05-08-23, 13:56
You only need one or two as good as 4 x4 at 150 r.
Come at 18 h before it gets packed.
Super hot mulatta as good or better than any at 4 x4.
Wadpho said he would write a report.
I will be in Rio in 2 weeks. I wil check out 202. Its hard to believe that 202 has the same talent as 4 x4. But seeing is believing.
Vagabundo1
05-08-23, 14:18
The Week in Baseball ends Sunday night fuck.
So I had that itch and called the hot negra with the super tight ass. We hit Motel Sheik at 23 h after a delay from some work zoom calls.
She sucked with those phat negra lips and my dick was rock hard. I bent her over in doggy, and slid my dick in her ass, and as always her eyes bugged out and became about twice as big.
I guess that moment alone is worth the 150 r which is 30 USD.
She wanted to change to missionary / frango assado (with a pillow under her ass to put her cuzinha up in the air for better anal fucking), and I did. Nice kissing those lips. I slow fucked that tight ass and kissed her mouth and her pussy became wet, and she played with her clit.
I changed her to on her belly, and I went up her ass again. She couldn't take it. I am not a huge dude, but I like to pound that asshole for 20 30 minutes, and she could only take a few minutes, and was kind of in pain. She needs to be widened, haha. In the words of Story of O. She is a passista, from one of the samba schools, a semi pro and obviously her super muscled back door is not as ready for bratwurst as it will be as I train her ass. But I am not into causing pain, unless the girl is a masochist. And I am just getting to know this hoar.
So, I turned her over in frango assado and finished after a few minutes.
Like I said, for 150 r, 90 r for the hotel, and 90 r for uber, it is fck you money, and I did fck!
All in, last week it was.
5 or 6 girls for 10-12 fucks.
Thanks for another fantastic report.
Dante is an amazing writer. Even via Google Translate he's fun to read, which I didn't think was possible until I found his musings. Find his report from 4 x4 about a girl who tried to sell him Herbalife. I laughed so hard, my jaw hurt.
Totally agree about Gparena. It's a treasure and has all the info anyone might ever need in Rio.
You only need one or two as good as 4 x4 at 150 r.
Come at 18 h before it gets packed.
Super hot mulatta as good or better than any at 4 x4.
Wadpho said he would write a report.Uh no. I think I would want a good selection not just one or two LOL, but that's me. Also, everything you've written has referred to the negras and mulattas at 116 and 202. Do they have hot girls of other ethnicities like 4 x4, Monte Carlo, or Solarium?
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