Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Rio Bob]

A question to the experienced Rio guys here: what do you do on a Sunday, when all the Termas are closed, the Prives too and none of you numbers are working? What is you suggestion for a good day time / early evening session?This is a good day to call a girl on one of the escort sites. If it's too early they may be at the beach or sleeping. But sometimes if they're on the beach they'll still come.

[Vagabundo1]

I train nude capoeira with Russian exchange students.

Professor Gabriel inacio Garcia Marquez drove his Spanish Catholic priests cock into the ass of a Russian Slavic orthodox exchange Student. Seka took it like a champ, a champion gymnast, a linguist trained to be a good grandchild of Lenin, a young Leninist. Padre Amado paid her to teach him Russian, but he wrote erotic poems and love letters, translated them into Russian and yearned to trade up from his negra and mulatta regulars to a Russian, one Russian to rule them all, to pick loira students and French and German and swedish exchange students to eat her hot little Russian snatch.


Train bjj or krav maga.

[Xpartan]

I agree what is written about 4 x4. 80% or even 90% of the girls there I would also not consider worth fucking. But I have never had a disappointing visit there. You just have to be patient. Eventually, a good girl will show up. I have not been often to Solarium. My opinion is, that they might have more good looking girls but they also have a bigger attitude. As I like to fuck perfectly shaped asses and do all kinds of dirty things with girls, this does not mix well. Monte Carlo is overpriced in my mind. The best experiences I must say I had in Lomos But that is years ago sadly.

Best is to collect a solid amount of numbers from Mabs or other places, then you always can call them should you not be up for a terma. I have found real gems there. But also here: 80-90% is not what I find attractive. But I agree, it all comes down to taste.Yeah, one person's meat is another one's poison, as the adage goes. While there're too many "thick" girls at 4 x4 that I don't like, I'd say roughly 50% of the talent on any given visit were consistently fuckable to me.

Just another proof how pointless all this talk about eights and nines.

[Vagabundo1]

This is far too white elitist legalistic for a Rio de janeiro group.

We come to Rio because we don't want to get this involved.

You at home in pussy prison jimmy boy?


Train bjj or krav maga.


From https://www.feldmanroyle.com/sex-crimes/prostitution/.

"Do Undercover Cops Have To Tell You?

It is a common misconception that undercover cops have to tell you that they are police, if asked directly. However, under US law, police officers are permitted to lie and mislead suspects. Therefore, if you hope to differentiate an undercover cop from a prostitute, simply asking will not work.

How To Tell If Its A Prostitution Sting.

The bottom line is that there is no definitive way to tell if it's a prostitution sting. That said, undercover law enforcement will normally get straight to negotiations as they should not engage in any sex acts. Commonly, undercover cops will work quickly to encourage a suspect to state clearly their intentions to pay a certain sum of money for a specific sex act."

Seems best to just say "Yes, I want to have a good time. Let's go" and don't talk about money. It is not illegal to pick up some one for unpaid sex, so what could they arrest you for? I doubt she would go with you if she is a cop, but it would presumably be entrapment if she brought up money, so she would probably just refuse to go with you.

[Xpartan]

Which termas and which prives? I have only been to centaurus, Solarium, and Marrakesh. I've also been to Eden Spa a few times and have met a few girls on seeking. I liked Centaraus the most, and the girls from seeking werent too bad. The cheapest was Eden Spa and the place is pretty much trash imo.A hoarhouse is a hoarhouse. The differences between prives, terapias, boates and termas are vague and totally non-scientific.

I seriously don't see a difference between terapias and prives (AKA clinicas in Sao Paulo). The only distinction I see is that terapias pretend to be a massage place. Prives normally scrap the pretense, although massage is available if you ask for it.

A terma to me is a place where you can put on a robe and relax at a lounge before taking a girl to a room (or not). Termas are normally more expensive than other venues.

That said, GParena lists some establishments in the Terma section that I would never consider a terma, but I presume Brazilians must know better.

Termas are closer to boates as in both have lounges with a party atmosphere where drinks are served. Prives and terapias are more down to earth: pick your girl and go to your room now.

Which takes us to Eden Spa. Eden is not trash. Any place with separate rooms (with full height walls) and clean sheets is definitely not trash.

There is one secret big room at Eden, like a suite, for the same price, but I don't remember the number. Just ask "o quarta grande esta disponivel?" If yes, they'll give it to you.

Eden (200 per hour) and other prives in the same building are quite a bargain for Copa, by the way.

[Mr Enternational]

It's OK bud. Couple of you misunderstood.

I didn't write that on behalf of you the client being safe from that. The hooker will ask you when you call if you're a cop. Undercover cops don't have to answer and if they lied charges on that sex worker will be dropped on the basis of entrapment. Laws maybe diff in FL vs other states.It is still not true. Post the law that says this. That is Hollywood stuff, not legal stuff. Entrapment is encouraging someone to commit a crime and has nothing to do with not admitting one is a law enforcement officer.

[Turgid]

......Seems best to just say "Yes, I want to have a good time. Let's go" and don't talk about money. It is not illegal to pick up some one for unpaid sex, so what could they arrest you for? I doubt she would go with you if she is a cop, but it would presumably be entrapment if she brought up money, so she would probably just refuse to go with you.I navigated that maze for many years during the 80's and 90's. With experience you can smell an undercover cop.

[Turgid]

......If you're going to be here for a period longer than a few weeks, and you should, then it is impertative to tie into non mongering groups like sports or education. The mongering life by itself is toxic, like pure alcohol, which will poison you if taken unadulterated.Mongering by its very nature is self regulating. No one can fuck for 16 hours straight every day. One has to surface for a breath. In my early mongering days when I'd do 3 chicks a day I found the breaks to go to restaurants for meals, short walks or computer activity sufficient to maintain a healthy mental state.

[The Cane]

It is still not true. Post the law that says this. That is Hollywood stuff, not legal stuff. Entrapment is encouraging someone to commit a crime and has nothing to do with not admitting one is a law enforcement officer.It's not entrapment if one already has a "criminal disposition". If you're already predisposed to committing the crime, then the fact that someone comes along and encourages you to do so doesn't = entrapment. Look it up. You weren't innocent. You had every intention to try to buy some ass! And the fact that an undercover cop encouraged you to do so changes nothing in your defense. So, did the defendant have a criminal disposition or not? That's a matter to be determined by the trier of the facts. But the bottom line? You're not off the hook just because an "undercover tute" lied to you or "tricked" you. If you had a criminal disposition to commit the act in question in the first place, well then that's not entrapment, and you're fucked in a way you weren't looking for. And that my friend is the law in the United States. I don't know about anywhere else.

[MaddTraveler]

It is still not true. Post the law that says this. That is Hollywood stuff, not legal stuff. Entrapment is encouraging someone to commit a crime and has nothing to do with not admitting one is a law enforcement officer.Feel free to do your own research. I make my points like everyone, was a side notes as to why people travel out of US / CA. Due to complex laws and not bc of costs. You wants facts cause you don't believed I lived 30+ yrs in FL then start Googling urself. Your famous for heavy debates LOL. Aint doingbthat with you bro. Even if I'm wrong. Idgaf bruh. Sue me.

[Mr Enternational]

I agree what is written about 4 x4. 80% or even 90% of the girls there I would also not consider worth fucking. But I have never had a disappointing visit there.Exactly. I do not go to a restaurant to worry about the 90% of the dishes on the menu that I do not want to eat. I go for the 10% that I would like to eat. People act like every chick in the place is supposed to suit their personal taste or they plan on fucking 5 of them in the 2 hours they are there. Go find the girl or two that suit you and have fun.

[MaddTraveler]

I'll post some of these spots as I discover them:

Rua conceciao 116: (Centro) recommended by Vagabundo1. Went there last week with another isger: 90 r 30 min, 160 r h. Met a nice girl there with a super bunda. One of highlight on this trip so far.

Blue house night club. (Estr. De Jacarepagua)/ Close to Recreio.

160 r 30 min, 250 r hour. Better w door staff and security, lots of locals but safe. As soon as I walked in lots of attentive girls. Decent quality and many are more fuckable than what I see in some pricey termas.

[Vagabundo1]

Stormy Daniels making a citizen's arrest as a informant.


It's not entrapment if one already has a "criminal disposition". If you're already predisposed to committing the crime, then the fact that someone comes along and encourages you to do so doesn't = entrapment. Look it up. You weren't innocent. You had every intention to try to buy some ass! And the fact that an undercover cop encouraged you to do so changes nothing in your defense. So, did the defendant have a criminal disposition or not? That's a matter to be determined by the trier of the facts. But the bottom line? You're not off the hook just because an "undercover tute" lied to you or "tricked" you. If you had a criminal disposition to commit the act in question in the first place, well then that's not entrapment, and you're fucked in a way you weren't looking for. And that my friend is the law in the United States. I don't know about anywhere else.

[Vagabundo1]

Read for reference.

Three Felonies A Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent https://a.co/d/8zctzOO.


It's not entrapment if one already has a "criminal disposition". If you're already predisposed to committing the crime, then the fact that someone comes along and encourages you to do so doesn't = entrapment. Look it up. You weren't innocent. You had every intention to try to buy some ass! And the fact that an undercover cop encouraged you to do so changes nothing in your defense. So, did the defendant have a criminal disposition or not? That's a matter to be determined by the trier of the facts. But the bottom line? You're not off the hook just because an "undercover tute" lied to you or "tricked" you. If you had a criminal disposition to commit the act in question in the first place, well then that's not entrapment, and you're fucked in a way you weren't looking for. And that my friend is the law in the United States. I don't know about anywhere else.

[TravelingGeno]

Traveling to Rio next week with a buddy for the first time. Trying to gather as much information as possible to make this a great trip. I've been traveling to Colombia over the last few years so it's time to switch it up. Any suggestions on hire to meet the girls? I always use Tinder in Colombia.

[Kazeu]

Anyone have any idea if 4 x4 would be open today? Or Mosaico or VM? Most normal stores and restaurants seem to be closed today. I'm wondering if because its a holiday 4 x4 and VM might be open for guys to destress.

[Vagabundo1]

When are you arrivinpg?

I can link up at the starbucks at cinelandia for a centro prive tour.

Upgrade to PM so you can send me a PM to coordinate.


Traveling to Rio next week with a buddy for the first time. Trying to gather as much information as possible to make this a great trip. I've been traveling to Colombia over the last few years so it's time to switch it up. Any suggestions on hire to meet the girls? I always use Tinder in Colombia.

[XXL]

...

DR and Thailand are the best places for 60+ mongers since those women don't have an issue to have a real relationship with you, like living together. Much harder to find that in Col or Bra since they're more sophisticated with arrogance and pride. You'll be taking care of the entire families in places where you find it but could be a fair exchange.

....I'm over 60 and if I stop living in Thailand it will be because hot girls here increasingly want only young guys, preferably Asian.

I now get rejected, often in rude fashion, by 80% of hot young girls in TH. These girls don't want me for short time in spite of my overpaying, much less to have a "real relationship" or be "living" with me.

My rejection rate in Brazil (for short time) is near zero.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

This is far too white elitist legalistic for a Rio de janeiro group.

We come to Rio because we don't want to get this involved.

You at home in pussy prison jimmy boy?Yes. Flying to Thailand on Thursday.

[CCRider1008]

I'll post some of these spots as I discover them:

Rua conceciao 116: (Centro) recommended by Vagabundo1. Went there last week with another isger: 90 r 30 min, 160 r h. Met a nice girl there with a super bunda. One of highlight on this trip so far.

Blue house night club. (Estr. De Jacarepagua)/ Close to Recreio.

160 r 30 min, 250 r hour. Better w door staff and security, lots of locals but safe. As soon as I walked in lots of attentive girls. Decent quality and many are more fuckable than what I see in some pricey termas.Looks like Blue House a strip club. How does P4 p work there -- are they all freelancers you take back to your hotel?

[Turgid]

I'm over 60 and if I stop living in Thailand it will be because hot girls here increasingly want only young guys, preferably Asian.

I now get rejected, often in rude fashion, by 80% of hot young girls in TH. These girls don't want me for short time in spite of my overpaying, much less to have a "real relationship" or be "living" with me.

My rejection rate in Brazil (for short time) is near zero.Many farang, young or old, get rejected in Thailand because of the big dick factor and the girl does not want to work hard. If she's hot she can get tiny guys who finish in 3 minutes.

[MaddTraveler]

Looks like Blue House a strip club. How does P4 p work there -- are they all freelancers you take back to your hotel?Oh it's a full blown Hohouse my dude. There is a small stage where two pros did a dance show but the majority of the time are women coming and to present themselves to you and making offers, dudes drinking, and a pool table. Pretty relaxed env and drinks are cheap too. They have rooms. The girl I took offered to go back to my apt for the same 250 r for the rest of the night when it was 2 a but used their room instead. Bra in general seem to be great for all night offers, and shows based on many reports here.

For ex this past Sat my favorite from Paris cafe offered me on WhatsApp to come spend the night for 500 r, heck yeah I took it. Took her to dinner first, mult rounds. I may have barebacked 😆. If the girl like you, you're in. You will know in the club bc she will french kiss you like a boyfriend while sitting and drinking w you. For that alone it's worth $$$ with the right girl. You don't find this shit in Col LOL. Fucking intense.

XXL: sorry to hear about your experience in TH, I guess things have changed and I hope the rest of SE Asia is better in that area for older gents.

I still have have a long way to go but once I entered p4 p near 30 I already started thinking how things will be at 60/70. Observing and learning. It's prob why most of my xpat buddies when in Dr and Col are like 65+, and a very cool buddy is 82 in mde. We meet in coffee shops to chat and they stay for hrs since they're all retired while I'd have to run after an hour LOL. Many are married with younger women so there's still hope.

[Mongmann]

I'll post some of these spots as I discover them:

Rua conceciao 116: (Centro) recommended by Vagabundo1. Went there last week with another isger: 90 r 30 min, 160 r h. Met a nice girl there with a super bunda. One of highlight on this trip so far.

Blue house night club. (Estr. De Jacarepagua)/ Close to Recreio.

160 r 30 min, 250 r hour. Better w door staff and security, lots of locals but safe. As soon as I walked in lots of attentive girls. Decent quality and many are more fuckable than what I see in some pricey termas.Great info. Thanks! I love any intell on Bundas!

[Vagabundo1]

It is a boate / terma like mosaico.

Indeed, the talent like bruna who showed up in a passport bro yt vid is same as mosaico.

Man bruna is hot af.

Totally dominated me.

She demanded it be covered, demanded 500 payment upfront, demanded even more than 500 pernoite.

Still I drilled her morena kunt 3 times.

The last time, she was upselling me like, oh baby, pernoite is like 800.

So I kicked her out of transamerica.

Those were the best days of covid.

That blessed time of cholera has passed.

Now, we vagabundos hope for a new covid, a nuclear war, a biological and chemical attack on New York or at least galveston.

Then, pricing will swing to favor we few, we happy few, we old, ugly, fat, rich swiss bastards waiting for the kunts to spread their legs and make lost in translation whiskey commercials with us again.

And oh yeah, they search you for weapons at bh, like pat you down with metal detectors.

Which is why I recommend carrying a back up knife in your trail running shorts / underwear from decathlon, something like an invictus folder easily obtained here in rio.

I am a walking red flag.

For some reason at blue house, the girls are afraid of me.

Performance the one time I fucked there when I went with a gracie bjj biuddy ws so so, but that was again, because my pronunciation is amusing and not in a good way.

I would say things like garanta profunda.

And she would look at my 17 centimeter eurasian dick and think of her preto with a 25 cm bbc and kind of laugh at me. Lets face it, vagabundo, it's because you are not really a bro, you just love the sisters, which is a side of reverse discrimination by sisters against asian and white men that really should be discussed more. We need a side group for that. It would be hilarious because we rich eurasians can pay for all that hot chocolate bunda, even if the sisters really need their chocolate brothers to dick them down.

Vagabundo was reminded of this at the federal university student fraternity today when two white girls, lets call them tiffany mynx and christy canyon were talking up two brothers, smoking some ganja with them maybe. Vagabundo was smokig ganja with a big titted social justice pricess, not smoking hot, but young, no kids, smart, and into me. So peace, love, amizade, and general goodwill was wafting around the campus. Vagabundo has convinced a librarian to keep his computers so that he can work there, to read jorge amado, and to make great netflix eventually, and youtube webseries in the traditiion of fim by fernanda torres.

Anyway, with time, my 17 centimeter eurasian bratwurst would certainly get the unadulterated submission that it commands in centro from the capoeira dancing negras and loiras and mulattas at the lower tier prives, actually, the upper tier prives, which is the sweet spot. Upper tier prives in rio and sp are the sweetest thing. It is better to love than to hate, and I love fucking hot women.


Oh it's a full blown Hohouse my dude. There is a small stage where two pros did a dance show but the majority of the time are women coming and to present themselves to you and making offers, dudes drinking, and a pool table. Pretty relaxed env and drinks are cheap too. They have rooms. The girl I took offered to go back to my apt for the same 250 r for the rest of the night when it was 2 a but used their room instead. Bra in general seem to be great for all night offers, and shows based on many reports here.

For ex this past Sat my favorite from Paris cafe offered me on WhatsApp to come spend the night for 500 r, heck yeah I took it. Took her to dinner first, mult rounds. I may have barebacked 😆. If the girl like you, you're in. You will know in the club bc she will french kiss you like a boyfriend while sitting and drinking w you. For that alone it's worth $$$ with the right girl. You don't find this shit in Col LOL. Fucking intense.

XXL: sorry to hear about your experience in TH, I guess things have changed and I hope the rest of SE Asia is better in that area for older gents.

I still have have a long way to go but once I entered p4 p near 30 I already started thinking how things will be at 60/70. Observing and learning. It's prob why most of my xpat buddies when in Dr and Col are like 65+, and a very cool buddy is 82 in mde. We meet in coffee shops to chat and they stay for hrs since they're all retired while I'd have to run after an hour LOL. Many are married with younger women so there's still hope.

[Filho]

Guys, what Terma would you say has the best looking girls? Went to 4 x4 the other day and fucked a hot Minera again, natural body and tits, which is nice, very slutty sexy face aa bit like Foxy Brown if you remember that rap star from the 90 ties Name Thaissa.

But overall, wasnt so impressed by the quality. Lots of short legged, saggy ass girls.

So looking for other options. Maybe Solarium?

[TravelingGeno]

Next Thursday May 2nd. I'll sign up.


When are you arrivinpg?

I can link up at the starbucks at cinelandia for a centro prive tour.

Upgrade to PM so you can send me a PM to coordinate.

[BallsDeep1980]

Guys, what Terma would you say has the best looking girls? Went to 4 x4 the other day and fucked a hot Minera again, natural body and tits, which is nice, very slutty sexy face aa bit like Foxy Brown if you remember that rap star from the 90 ties Name Thaissa.

But overall, wasnt so impressed by the quality. Lots of short legged, saggy ass girls.

So looking for other options. Maybe Solarium?I never understood why Cedntaraus gets no love, my only trip there was amazing, great service, girl was super hot and friendly with an ass to die for. Everyone is always talking about 4 X4 all the time and frankly I have no clue why.

Solarium was pretty good too. Marrakesh wasnt that great but I was super drunk.

[Gandi718]

Hey guys I get so much great info from all the members and will be returning to rio. Honestly I have to go through the forum to update because I haven't been back in a year. But is there a website escort service with economical prices? Also is bara tejuca still open and is there something comparable that someone can recommend? I liked that place its in a residential community and away from centro drag. Thanks!

[HKS11]

I'll post some of these spots as I discover them:

Rua conceciao 116: (Centro) recommended by Vagabundo1. Went there last week with another isger: 90 r 30 min, 160 r h. Met a nice girl there with a super bunda. One of highlight on this trip so far.

Blue house night club. (Estr. De Jacarepagua)/ Close to Recreio.

160 r 30 min, 250 r hour. Better w door staff and security, lots of locals but safe. As soon as I walked in lots of attentive girls. Decent quality and many are more fuckable than what I see in some pricey termas.I will be in Rio in two weeks. I am pretty familiar with the main spots in Copa and Centro and really want to try some new spots like the ones you mention here. Is there a list of top places Vagabundo1 recommends in this thread?

[Gandi718]

Is there some short term hotels in copacabana or impanema? Thanks.

[TexaBroad]

Writing this on the way back from the airport in my home country. Was in Rio for 4 days just now (not my first trip), thanks for all of the great suggestions.

Usual 4 x4 during the week. Wasn't that busy so got to enjoy some time with the girls this time around before heading to a room.

No takeout this time from 4 x4 (I have paid the exit fee on previous trips. Usually as I like to go early and I sleep early I don't want to wait for girls to finish at 2 am kkkkkk).

Instead been on SA / seeking. Quality has gone up it used to be very poor.

I saw 2 girls, one 3 x and the other only once.

Girl 1 - 19 yo very slightly on the thicker side which is not my usual preference (I like spinners).

We had chatted for 2 weeks, every few days, & there was tension (at least on my side kkkkk) before we met.

We met at a fancy rodizio place opposite my hotel (cost over 600 for 2 including 2 drinks which is a small fortune for Rio but it is one of the best. Churrascia palace).

She spoke good English and was flirty over dinner. She came and sat on my side of the table etc.

We hadn't actually discussed money until we met in person. She said her former SD from the site would give her 2 k BRL per meet. I know this is a lot for Rio but I was fine with it and the chemistry was good.

So we walked into the room and spent roughly 3 hours together. She told me upfront that she doesn't like to stay overnight the first time she meets someone. I said that's fine.

The next 2 days she had classes during the day and she just came straight to my hotel for the evening. I didn't actually want her to stay the night so gave her 2 k each time again for c3 hours or so + I booked her uber each way which was not much as she was not coming from very far.

Very submissive and caring in the hotel room which is what I like. The deed was protected but owo was fine. Lots of kissing etc which was nice.

Was planning to spend all of Saturday with her as well but she tells me last minute that she has a family event so logged straight back into SA and found a gem (lorie I think was the username) who had just joined it the same day she told me. Spoke to her at maybe 1 am and we moved to whatsapl and agreed to meet Saturday lunchtime. Lorie was 23 and a student in Rio (studying history).

She was upfront and told me she has done this stuff before but that I got lucky as she just joined again after a very long time.

We met in the same rodizio restaurant (I paid her uber both ways which was expensive she lives really far in the suburbs. Uber cost c100 each way which is a crazy amount for Rio but that was the actual price). I waited for some time at the restaurant for her but knew she had a reason to be delayed as I followed her uber journey eagerly. As soon as she came in my jaw dropped she was stunning. All natural, slim & with long brunette hair.

She came in with a smile and we chatted away for what seemed like hours but probably only 1 hour. Now we had agreed 3 k (don't get mad here was a last minute SA search and desperate before heading home). We went to a different / cheaper hotel than last time which I had booked specifically for meeting lorie (late night flight).

A bit awkward having to check her in as well but probably fine.

Her ID showed her stated age of 23 - she looked younger I would say.

We stayed together in the room for maybe 4 to 5 hours. We went at it 3 times but also chatted a lot. She has travelled to many countries which I've also been to and speaks nearly perfect English. Really felt like a GFE which I guess is what I was after. She has a passport and told me she can travel so I am thinking of flying her to Europe. She told me economy ticket would be fine for that as I (only somewhat jokingly) asked if she needs a business class flight.

In bed truly a GFE. Very submissive. Fair boundaries on no BBFS which I did ask about and no backdoor action as well. Very keen to see her again.

Next time I think I will ask for one SA girl to spend a full 4 days with me perhaps and try and get a better price for that than 2 k or 3 k for a few hours. I understand both are expensive but really felt like they were worth it, especially the SA girl I saw at 3 k funnily enough.

[Xpartan]

Is there some short term hotels in copacabana or impanema? Thanks.https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/rio-de-janeiro

A simple search of this tread can unearth useful comments about specific properties.

[Xpartan]

She came in with a smile and we chatted away for what seemed like hours but probably only 1 hour. Now we had agreed 3 k (don't get mad here was a last minute SA search and desperate before heading home). We went to a different / cheaper hotel than last time which I had booked specifically for meeting lorie (late night flight).
Thanks for your report.

No one's going to be mad at you. I don't think many folks here are using Seeking. At least, in Brazil.

Now, if you walked into 4 x4 and offered them that kind of dough, then yeah, you'd get loads after loads of tough love, LOL.

But Seeking is a very isolated platform. If it works for you and makes you happy, it's your money after all. Glad you had fun.

[HKS11]

I have a 5 hour layover in GRU on my way to Rio. Anyone have any suggestions?

[Vagabundo1]

Which school did these girls go to?


Writing this on the way back from the airport in my home country. Was in Rio for 4 days just now (not my first trip), thanks for all of the great suggestions.

Usual 4 x4 during the week. Wasn't that busy so got to enjoy some time with the girls this time around before heading to a room.

No takeout this time from 4 x4 (I have paid the exit fee on previous trips. Usually as I like to go early and I sleep early I don't want to wait for girls to finish at 2 am kkkkkk).

Instead been on SA / seeking. Quality has gone up it used to be very poor.

I saw 2 girls, one 3 x and the other only once.

Girl 1 - 19 yo very slightly on the thicker side which is not my usual preference (I like spinners).

We had chatted for 2 weeks, every few days, & there was tension (at least on my side kkkkk) before we met.

We met at a fancy rodizio place opposite my hotel (cost over 600 for 2 including 2 drinks which is a small fortune for Rio but it is one of the best. Churrascia palace).

She spoke good English and was flirty over dinner. She came and sat on my side of the table etc.

We hadn't actually discussed money until we met in person. She said her former SD from the site would give her 2 k BRL per meet. I know this is a lot for Rio but I was fine with it and the chemistry was good.

So we walked into the room and spent roughly 3 hours together. She told me upfront that she doesn't like to stay overnight the first time she meets someone. I said that's fine.

The next 2 days she had classes during the day and she just came straight to my hotel for the evening. I didn't actually want her to stay the night so gave her 2 k each time again for c3 hours or so + I booked her uber each way which was not much as she was not coming from very far.

Very submissive and caring in the hotel room which is what I like. The deed was protected but owo was fine. Lots of kissing etc which was nice.

Was planning to spend all of Saturday with her as well but she tells me last minute that she has a family event so logged straight back into SA and found a gem (lorie I think was the username) who had just joined it the same day she told me. Spoke to her at maybe 1 am and we moved to whatsapl and agreed to meet Saturday lunchtime. Lorie was 23 and a student in Rio (studying history).

She was upfront and told me she has done this stuff before but that I got lucky as she just joined again after a very long time.

We met in the same rodizio restaurant (I paid her uber both ways which was expensive she lives really far in the suburbs. Uber cost c100 each way which is a crazy amount for Rio but that was the actual price). I waited for some time at the restaurant for her but knew she had a reason to be delayed as I followed her uber journey eagerly. As soon as she came in my jaw dropped she was stunning. All natural, slim & with long brunette hair.

She came in with a smile and we chatted away for what seemed like hours but probably only 1 hour. Now we had agreed 3 k (don't get mad here was a last minute SA search and desperate before heading home). We went to a different / cheaper hotel than last time which I had booked specifically for meeting lorie (late night flight).

A bit awkward having to check her in as well but probably fine.

Her ID showed her stated age of 23 - she looked younger I would say.

We stayed together in the room for maybe 4 to 5 hours. We went at it 3 times but also chatted a lot. She has travelled to many countries which I've also been to and speaks nearly perfect English. Really felt like a GFE which I guess is what I was after. She has a passport and told me she can travel so I am thinking of flying her to Europe. She told me economy ticket would be fine for that as I (only somewhat jokingly) asked if she needs a business class flight.

In bed truly a GFE. Very submissive. Fair boundaries on no BBFS which I did ask about and no backdoor action as well. Very keen to see her again.

Next time I think I will ask for one SA girl to spend a full 4 days with me perhaps and try and get a better price for that than 2 k or 3 k for a few hours. I understand both are expensive but really felt like they were worth it, especially the SA girl I saw at 3 k funnily enough.

[Tochka]

When are you arrivinpg?

I can link up at the starbucks at cinelandia for a centro prive tour.

Upgrade to PM so you can send me a PM to coordinate.My Airbnb apartment was a convenient three-block walk to the Starbucks in Cinelandia. The place is fking busy mid-morning. I stopped by a good coffee shop in the same building as Duda Massage Rio Branco 156. I go to the banco24 ATM inside the metro. Joining the ATM with a long ass line. Withdrawal cash, each time, no problems, during daytime.

Afterward walk over to the underground stores to buy medium-sized bottles of whiskey, cognac, Hennessy, sugar-free Red Bulls, 2 packs of baby wipes, and plastic cups. BTW I keep the iphone on a leash around my neck, and stick it inside the shirt.

Exit metro head to the security booths in the Branco 156 office building. Up the elevators to the top floor, then another stupid elevator. Find Duda massage. She rings me in before I have a chance to open the door. For the next four to six hours 11-5 pm, going through the entire prive afternoon lineup. Getting slurpy sloppy deepthroat from two nineteen-year-old garotas. An hour or two-hour duplo sessions, CIM w / swallow from Branca and Lightskin mulutta cuties posted on wassap.

Damn totally forgot brasiliana garotas will swallow the entire load, and use their tongues to sop up spillage she missed. Pay a small tip. Then bounce to the next prive in the same building.

The latest I stayed in centro was 7. 30 pm to get a haircut at the barbershop directly across the street across from Darkroom Praa Olavo Bilac 28. Walk back to Airbnb, keeping head on swivel. Change shower, head out to Solarium and Monte Carlos termas to hook up with Scandallo Garotas working there. Each night at closing leave with two garotas, uber or indriver to the short time motel panda motel in Botofoga.

YMMV.

[Vagabundo1]

Well played young Jedi.

The force is strong in this one.


My Airbnb apartment was a convenient three-block walk to the Starbucks in Cinelandia. The place is fking busy mid-morning. I stopped by a good coffee shop in the same building as Duda Massage Rio Branco 156. I go to the banco24 ATM inside the metro. Joining the ATM with a long ass line. Withdrawal cash, each time, no problems, during daytime.

Afterward walk over to the underground stores to buy medium-sized bottles of whiskey, cognac, Hennessy, sugar-free Red Bulls, 2 packs of baby wipes, and plastic cups. BTW I keep the iphone on a leash around my neck, and stick it inside the shirt.

Exit metro head to the security booths in the Branco 156 office building. Up the elevators to the top floor, then another stupid elevator. Find Duda massage. She rings me in before I have a chance to open the door. For the next four to six hours 11-5 pm, going through the entire prive afternoon lineup. Getting slurpy sloppy deepthroat from two nineteen-year-old garotas. An hour or two-hour duplo sessions, CIM w / swallow from Branca and Lightskin mulutta cuties posted on wassap.

Damn totally forgot brasiliana garotas will swallow the entire load, and use their tongues to sop up spillage she missed. Pay a small tip. Then bounce to the next prive in the same building.

The latest I stayed in centro was 7. 30 pm to get a haircut at the barbershop directly across the street across from Darkroom Praa Olavo Bilac 28. Walk back to Airbnb, keeping head on swivel. Change shower, head out to Solarium and Monte Carlos termas to hook up with Scandallo Garotas working there. Each night at closing leave with two garotas, uber or indriver to the short time motel panda motel in Botofoga.

YMMV.

[TexaBroad]

Which school did these girls go to?One was a proper university based in novo iguacu. The 19 year old didn't go to a proper university I didn't fully understand what classes she had.

[Mr Enternational]

I have a 5 hour layover in GRU on my way to Rio. Anyone have any suggestions?Bring a good book. Because it is going to take 3 of those hours to get through immigration and customs.

[Mr Enternational]

Which school did these girls go to?GHA. Gringo Hustling Academy.

[Nounce]

Next time I think I will ask for one SA girl to spend a full 4 days with me perhaps and try and get a better price for that than 2 k or 3 k for a few hours. I understand both are expensive but really felt like they were worth it, especially the SA girl I saw at 3 k funnily enough.It sounds like you did not negotiate at all. It's to your advantage when they meet you in person without an agreed price. Why would they give you the advantage? Did you bring up the question about her rate first? I would respond to her the same way she did.

For me, the girl's availability is often reduced when they have more money. The first girl got 6 K from you and she became unavailable

Don't have time to write my experience, many girls are telling a story to manipulate men. Keep that in mind until verified.

[Gandi718]

I was thinking to fly to another city from Rio to check it out. I like the less traffic places something relaxing but has a good scene for mongering. Any suggestions?

[Sperto]

Reading about mongers paying whatever the girls ask for, like 3000 reais. I don't care how others spend their money but it could be wise to remember some things. Not meant as complaints just as good advice. What the girls ask for and what they will accept are totally different. Many Brazilians earn a minimum wage which is 1412 reais, paying a girl 3000 reais is quite hefty. IMO overpaying excessively won't give you a better service, rather on the contrary. The girl might think that the guy is a clueless sucker and give him poor service. Even though paying a small fortune the girls didn't stay overnight, no BBFS and no anal.

[TexaBroad]

Fair enough with girl 1 - probably could have negotiated down to 1.5 given we hadn't discussed rate in advance. Lorie I think was fair from her she said 3 k upfront (before coming to see me) and maybe I could have pushed down to 2.5 k but, as she told me in advance, I just went ahead with it. I've seen probably over 50 girls now from SA and I would say she is in my top 1 or 2 experiences. But yes I accept that is a lot for Rio. Depends what you want I guess. She gave me a proper GFE & was a super natural girl. Did not look like a working girl in any way which is what I like.

Next time for sure will be negotiating more. How much have you guys paid for top-tier SA girls?


It sounds like you did not negotiate at all. It's to your advantage when they meet you in person without an agreed price. Why would they give you the advantage? Did you bring up the question about her rate first? I would respond to her the same way she did.

For me, the girl's availability is often reduced when they have more money. The first girl got 6 K from you and she became unavailable

Don't have time to write my experience, many girls are telling a story to manipulate men. Keep that in mind until verified.

[Tochka]

Bring a good book. Because it is going to take 3 of those hours to get through immigration and customs.The GRU airport is total tourist trap for trying to exit customs fast. The signs snake through the Duty-Free store. If you follow the signs and directions lost 10-15 minutes walking through the stupid duty-free store. All I want to do is get the heck out of GRU airport, hop in the Uber with the destination already set to Prime Moema for duplo session with Karen and Ariella.

Eventually, I learned when first entering the duty-free shop to take an immediate left, to the exit door. The immediate left, avoids going thru the duty-free gauntlet. The staff, if asked show you the long way out.

I don't check luggage so to avoid the lines exiting luggage claims, I go under the stanchions to the exit. There is sometimes another random? Customs luggage check if you are directed out of the line before the freedom to exit.

The other domestic airport SDU has one of the nicest views at the Uber Lounge. Very picturesque while waiting for the Uber to arrive. The SDU Uber lounge is a bit more organized, in my opinion. Plus free wifi and a bank of banco24 ATM upstairs in the Bossa Nova Mall.

[Xpartan]

Reading about mongers paying whatever the girls ask for, like 3000 reais. I don't care how others spend their money but it could be wise to remember some things. Not meant as complaints just as good advice. What the girls ask for and what they will accept are totally different. Many Brazilians earn a minimum wage which is 1412 reais, paying a girl 3000 reais is quite hefty. IMO overpaying excessively won't give you a better service, rather on the contrary. The girl might think that the guy is a clueless sucker and give him poor service. Even though paying a small fortune the girls didn't stay overnight, no BBFS and no anal.It's Seeking. Girls peddling their wares on Seeking are least concerned with the minimum wage. And guys on Seeking paying $90 a month couldn't care less about spending a few (hundreds) dollars more on a sexual encounter. It's a big GF fantasy, but you still get to fuck, LOL.

[Vagabundo1]

Sperto is right IMHO.

A good ISG wingman who uses seeking pays max 800 pernoite.


It's Seeking. Girls peddling their wares on Seeking are least concerned with the minimum wage. And guys on Seeking paying $90 a month couldn't care less about spending a few (hundreds) dollars more on a sexual encounter. It's a big GF fantasy, but you still get to fuck, LOL.

[Vagabundo1]

Please send me a pm.

Upgrade. It's worth it.


One was a proper university based in novo iguacu. The 19 year old didn't go to a proper university I didn't fully understand what classes she had.

[Nounce]

It's Seeking. Girls peddling their wares on Seeking are least concerned with the minimum wage. ...There is no qualification so any girl can be on it. You potentially can meet a girl who works at clinica or prive. Most of them don't make much money on their full time job if they have one. I have reported on some not long ago.

[Nounce]

Next time for sure will be negotiating more. How much have you guys paid for top-tier SA girls?What you paid based on my observation is getting to be the norm in Sao Paulo. Glad to know Rio is getting there. Hehe. I looked for something more sustainable for everyday use so I will not pay that price. I spent very little time in SP now. I dipped my toes in when I passed by. I think you can get lower price ones based on what were reported here but I guess it's getting to be more difficult especially if you are not here often.

In a nutshell, a girl that can make that kind of money doesn't have to work often. They could survive with only one date a month. Follow this theory, they don't have to come down in price. I appreciate your report.

Have you been to Scandallo?

[Vagabundo1]

Haha, totally true. Not to laugh at any fellow monger, but by contrast, these are American prices for college girls, and there is a premium for being with a actual college girl who you could talk English with preferably.

I am here with Monique, a 27 year old Negra, who I previously have been fucking in 2020-22, and it is 250 r pernoite BBFSCIP, and she is a player -- she will go with to the nude beach and come home with a white couple and swap, and she has a bunda that makes for good swinging as men do like to fuck her jiggly booty, including me. I went to Central and met her there, and took the 315 bus back for a total of 4. 3 reais each for passagem. I recommend over ear earphones. I recommend also as alwas a vasco shirt and a bombeiro cap, knives (though never take them out unless actual last resort), and a taser flashlight.

Off to a good pernoite, again.


GHA. Gringo Hustling Academy.

[Vagabundo1]

Is this why so many medellin passport bros have been showing up in rio?

https://youtu.be/mXThf0ufKj4?si=QgrrEC7CKLVOg-Z3

[Xpartan]

There is no qualification so any girl can be on it. You potentially can meet a girl who works at clinica or prive. Most of them don't make much money on their full time job if they have one. I have reported on some not long ago.Don't women still have to pay for the service to get any kind of usability? I don't think many non-elite GDPs can or want to pay the fees, so I just presumed those who can would be the ones to command exorbitant prices. Might be wrong, though.

[Nounce]

Don't women still have to pay for the service to get any kind of usability? I don't think many non-elite GDPs can or want to pay the fees, so I just presumed those who can would be the ones to command exorbitant prices. Might be wrong, though.Sugar daddy needs to pay to be able to view and send messages. Sugar baby can receive and send messages without paying. It's more like a competition and girls have the advantage so the higher price.

[Bravo]

What the fuck has happened to my beloved Rio de Janeiro. From guys making it rain, to mongers paying 3-6 thousand Reais for 3 hours? I swear there should be a test before mongers are given a visa to fly to brasil! Glad you had a good time, but jeez you spent wayyyyyy more than you needed to. Please hook up with some vets before your next trip!

[Vagabundo1]

Yeah for that price you can pay the tuition of a muy thai negra for the nursing school on the bus to duque de caxis and have her swallow your loads and cum in her pussy for 3 years.


What the fuck has happened to my beloved Rio de Janeiro. From guys making it rain, to mongers paying 3-6 thousand Reais for 3 hours? I swear there should be a test before mongers are given a visa to fly to brasil! Glad you had a good time, but jeez you spent wayyyyyy more than you needed to. Please hook up with some vets before your next trip!

[The Cane]

What the fuck has happened to my beloved Rio de Janeiro. From guys making it rain, to mongers paying 3-6 thousand Reais for 3 hours? I swear there should be a test before mongers are given a visa to fly to brasil! Glad you had a good time, but jeez you spent wayyyyyy more than you needed to. Please hook up with some vets before your next trip!Can't believe someone paid 6,000 Reais for a session like that. Totally outrageous and unnecessary. One can pay less for better service. Way less! GFE or PSE or whatever. Geez! I tend not to comment on what guys pay but when I saw that had to gasp WTF? Really? That's not what a seasoned monger does. That's just what a horny guy with money to blow does. And don't let him come back and tell us he's seasoned. He's not. Because his actions speak louder than any words to the contrary. Tute hit a payday windfall! And will then come back talking about what her last sugar daddy paid her. Yeah well, I'm not him! So you can get to stepping up out of here!

[Mr Enternational]

What the fuck has happened to my beloved Rio de Janeiro. From guys making it rain, to mongers paying 3-6 thousand Reais for 3 hours?LOL. Me and my girlfriend were just in Jericoacoara and "Fortalazy" from Tuesday to Sunday. I did not spend that much money for the entire trip, including her plane ticket from Recife and the rental car. If a chick in Brazil told me to pay that much to fuck one time, I would think I was on one of those shows like Punk'd. It just can not be real. I can't help but to figure 15 years ago in the 1. 52 days 3,000 reais would have been US $2,000! 3000 reais is still 3000 reais though no matter how you convert it.

[NiteRiderCal]

OK. I will be going to Rio soon, with 4 different cards. Capital one 360 master card, Schwab visa, Wise MC and revolut visa. If none of it work, I will ask my Brazilian friend to help me out. But I don't like asking people for help. From reading the link below, it seem Brazil don't want people to come to their country and spend money. The rest of the world love tourist.

https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1063282

Any of you have any success using USA debit card at the ATM within the past 6 months?

[NiteRiderCal]

What the fuck has happened to my beloved Rio de Janeiro. From guys making it rain, to mongers paying 3-6 thousand Reais for 3 hours? I swear there should be a test before mongers are given a visa to fly to brasil! Glad you had a good time, but jeez you spent wayyyyyy more than you needed to. Please hook up with some vets before your next trip!3-6 K for 3 hours is ridiculous. I normally get girl from 4 x4 or other termas to spend 4 or 5 hours with me for 1 K. I never pay one Reai more than that. This time I'm in contact with an Onlyfans girl I found on Twitter, she want 2 K for 5 hours. I will go to Brazil next week, I'm still debating if I should agree to this or not. She do video chat for 10 reai per minute. I guess there are guy in the US who will pay for it. Hahhaha. What do you guy think?

[NiteRiderCal]

If you want to see what these onlyfans or privacy girl will do or how they look go on simpcity. If they are popular, most likely you can find their leak video.

[MaddTraveler]

Next time I think I will ask for one SA girl to spend a full 4 days with me perhaps and try and get a better price for that than 2 k or 3 k for a few hours. I understand both are expensive but really felt like they were worth it, especially the SA girl I saw at 3 k funnily enough.Yeah like others are saying your wild and crazy bro and didn't just overpaid, you got robbed.

I met couple girls on SA, one wanted 600 r and spent several hours and went all the way; the other claimed she was a non pro and made it clear several times in writing didn't want money. Didn't bang her yet and she want a normal LT relationship, so we're just chatting. Many other offers were within 600-1000 r range which for short term 2-3 hrs but normally say ok when I counter at 500-600. I haven't met some of those yet since I only got 1 dick and they got to get in line LOL. Also I've met better looking girls in person or similar beauties in clubs / termas, etc where many also speak English / Spanish w better rates.

So here's my main take on using apps in Brazil so far. Pros and cons:

Pros: As a foreigner you'll be matched with many girls that speak English, Spanish. They're happy to connect with you just to practice their Eng and they're excited about it (nonpros). Everyone's experience may be diff as it depends on your pics, looks, age. Within a week I connected with more 50+ women on Bumble and Tinder alone, mostly non pros, and decided to only meet with the few that speak Eng or Spanish. That keeps me busy on cheesy dates since I like to smoke and drink, dance, do bullshit and just chill. Those are the good ones. SA here in Rio is 90% pros or SB with experience.

Cons: For Tinder or Bumble here in Rio, girls you match with will bounce or even you will lose interest if you cannot communicate in Portuguese outside of a very select few. Especially if the girl is a true nonpro and trying to find romance, they won't date you to converse solely via Google translate. And lots of time will be wasted if you're here short term or just few days. Not worth it.

For SA, being mainly pros, many many of them are scammers and that turned me away a bit. For ex one wouldn't tell me her exact town, claimed she lives in the country side about an HR away from Rio. We conversed a bit and we decided on meeting, we decided on no commitment, no pricing, and would only have dinner and decide later if there's a vibe. She then asked if ID pay her bus ticket, and that if it's late that evening to get a hotel for her or allow her to stay at my apt since doesn't travel late by bus. I said sure you'll be in the hands of a gentleman, no worries. She flirted and assured me that I'd love her and said likely we'll be doing "things".

Then she sent me a bus ticket of 211 r, as the amount to reimburse; I replied sure. Then I thought about it and asked again, hey, what's the name of your town again? You never told me!! Each time she'd change the topic, then I noticed also that the receipt doesn't contain a date, name, etc. I immediately said to her, dear, I would only pay and reimburse that ticket if it shows your name, a date, and trip info like to and from destination, I'm not stupid!! You are clearly trying to scam me, also I've been in rio for a min and I know a 1 hour bus ride costs like 5-10 r, and put a huge laughing face to mock LOL. I'm always a nice guy unless you make me an ahole.

She replied she didn't like that drama and said lets cancel. I replied oh yeah I already did. So it seems it's actually her thing, meeting dumb and stupid gringos all day, sex or not she'll profit an easy 200 r for doing nothing since likely live near copacabana area. Many others use fake pics obviously, and was contacted by many others that pretended that they're far away and want travel money. Yes SA has scammers everywhere, but I have used it in the US and few other countries especially Col, and the level of sharpness of the girls in Rio seem to be on a different level. They're smarter and smoother. Bottom line I used it for fun since already had a paid membership when arrived from Col, however there arent as many users as Col and also there are many venues / clubs here to meet quality women. Final verdict is using apps here is only good if your bored, working at home some days and want to chat while you're busy to kill time. It works also if you're rich, not too bright or shy in person and willing to pay 5 x the going rate.

[Tribute15]

I am stunned. 3 k reals per session. I paid 700 reals for per noite for a stunner from Emporio Banho. All holes included, sin condom and CIP. I felt I got the short end of the stick, because Vagabundo says he pays 400 reals for his per noite. I met a beauty at Perola Negra and she came over for 4 hours everything included was 500 reals. Whenever I travel anywhere nowadays, and met beautiful women, once I hear their prices, I immediately use Brazil as my measuring gauge. I will convert and think of how many stunners and wonderful session I can get in Rio. That makes me pause and rethink.

Still blown away thinking of how many top end escorts or sessions at Termas 3 k can get me. BTW you can tell you overpaid, if after 2 sessions, the girl cancelled on the third. Too each his own.

[Nounce]

OK. I will be going to Rio soon, with 4 different cards. Capital one 360 master card, Schwab visa, Wise MC and revolut visa. If none of it work, I will ask my Brazilian friend to help me out. But I don't like asking people for help. From reading the link below, it seem Brazil don't want people to come to their country and spend money. The rest of the world love tourist.

https://www.expat.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1063282

Any of you have any success using USA debit card at the ATM within the past 6 months?You will be fine in Rio with the cards you have, and credit cards work well everywhere. I have been to only one remote city that the ATM don't take foreign card at all.

[MaddTraveler]

Can't believe someone paid 6,000 Reais for a session like that. Totally outrageous and unnecessary. One can pay less for better service. Way less! GFE or PSE or whatever. Geez! I tend not to comment on what guys pay but when I saw that had to gasp WTF? Really? That's not what a seasoned monger does. That's just what a horny guy with money to blow does. And don't let him come back and tell us he's seasoned. He's not. Because his actions speak louder than any words to the contrary. Tute hit a payday windfall! And will then come back talking about what her last sugar daddy paid her. Yeah well, I'm not him! So you can get to stepping up out of here!No matter what part of the world you monger in, this isn't something girls do often pros or not. Most women won't talk about their previous experiences since they want to appear as a good inexperienced girl for you. That's a common and cheap sales tactic even telemarketers and scammers use; telling you so and so paid this and that. Same when a btch is telling me her ex did this or that then the imm reply is go back to that mofo. Why you left if he was so good? It's a nasty and disgusting trick and why would any man fall for that? Simpin at a new level.

[Vagabundo1]

Spot on!

Now, end of month (April), I tell my girls I am out of money (which is true in my checking account, tho not brokerage), and get pernoite bbfscip 250 r, and put them on the same city bus that I ride in and out with them to and fro, which shuts them up about the uber and saves me the uber and the time to go get change to pay the uber, actually 99, so I guess panda boy has my data too.


I am stunned. 3 k reals per session. I paid 700 reals for per noite for a stunner from Emporio Banho. All holes included, sin condom and CIP. I felt I got the short end of the stick, because Vagabundo says he pays 400 reals for his per noite. I met a beauty at Perola Negra and she came over for 4 hours everything included was 500 reals. Whenever I travel anywhere nowadays, and met beautiful women, once I hear their prices, I immediately use Brazil as my measuring gauge. I will convert and think of how many stunners and wonderful session I can get in Rio. That makes me pause and rethink.

Still blown away thinking of how many top end escorts or sessions at Termas 3 k can get me. BTW you can tell you overpaid, if after 2 sessions, the girl cancelled on the third. Too each his own.

[Vagabundo1]

As a comparison, see.

https://barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-yasmin-mineira

Yasmin mineira.

Ok, she is hot af.

But by hoar years (dog years) she is old.

And she will ask 1500 are.

I fuk ed her for 150 in motel malaga and in a airbnb in botafogo in 2015 when she was 18 (do the dog year math).

You can find plenty of mineiras (the hottest brazilians) in photoaccompanhantes and even vm (I have some pics), and do them bare for 150 at your place after doing a session in their spot.

But that takes some work, which means you need to come for minimum 2 weeks, better 2 months, and even better just don't leave rio and give power of attorney on your house in the rich world so you can sell it when you get addicted to bare teen carioca kunt like henry 'vagabundo' miller.

And while I am at it here is some great investment advice.

Buy recreio property.

Easy to see the metro out here in 10 years if not 2.


No matter what part of the world you monger in, this isn't something girls do often pros or not. Most women won't talk about their previous experiences since they want to appear as a good inexperienced girl for you. That's a common and cheap sales tactic even telemarketers and scammers use; telling you so and so paid this and that. Same when a btch is telling me her ex did this or that then the imm reply is go back to that mofo. Why you left if he was so good? It's a nasty and disgusting trick and why would any man fall for that? Simpin at a new level.

[Vagabundo1]

Paris Tuesday night.

Tacoma a ISGer and I went to Paris last night, which was anticlimatic as I had trained 60 minutes Muay Thai at a university where I was smoking ganja with hot ass college chicks and the workers, but I was all pumped up from 60 minutes at a high heart zone rate so I wanted to go grab some ass and some numbers.

The hottest ass in paris is a new one, jessica, big not horse big bunda, she would not give me her wassap and even claimed she did not have insta. How is that for a fckin heisman?! As I have alluded to, reverse racism is a thing, as she is mulatta and I profile as white though I am half asian, which is not exactly a minority, is it? Anyway, I am a victim of the hottest black women who enact reverse racism against me, haha. Perhaps she was justified in lying to me as I made my first impression with her with sunglasses on over a big black eye from a fall on a hike though everyone obviously thinks it is from being punched, which is plausible as I box 2 times a week with the muay thai team on campus. But I grabbed her ass. She would do a 40 minute session for 350 r. I don't give a fuk, as I was not going to session anyway, as was my wingman who has all the pussy he can handle from SA and repeats etc, as do I, and in any case talking to and chasing real college girls is more fun and exciting anyway, who needs apps, well there are the right wassap groups.

Ok, anyway, I do know melissa, who has been there at paris for 3 years, and I have pernoited with her and she gave a bad session to senor nounce a few months ago. I chatted to melissa about a threesome, but I know how that goes, all covered, and then there are two girls at your place and scandalo, lose your apartment, etc, so it was just a idea. I would go to praia macumba smoke some ganja and fuk on the beach with these hoars anytime, but I have hoars for that who perform well.

Anyway, the realest and best in some ways interactoin of the night was with the girl at the front desk, who is also hot af BTW. On the way in I say, I am a professioal, I am a go go boy like bruna surfistina dj, that gets a laugh. On the way out, I repeat the line, and she offers me a discount. My bill is 44 (30 entrada and 14 r for my diet coke). I give her a 50. And she gives me 10, a 4 reais discount. But she does it with a sexy smile which says, hey vagabundo, I want to have your gringo lips and tongue buried between my legs eating my burning pussy on command. To which I say, eu sou go go boy, eu tenho piroca 32 centimeters, grosso (I have a thick 12 inch dick). Normalmente, meninas me paga 500 reais por hora por voce vou fazer disconta. (normally women pay me 500 reais an hour to fuck them, but for you I will do a discount). She laughs and say, por mim 200 reais. (for me 200 reais, right? There is a cop, policia militar officer REDACTED sitting there with a 9 mm on his hip. I am playing a russian playlist (thanks miamiboy) on my gamer earbuds to learn russian for my real love a 22 year old russian exchange student who sits on my face while I play those songs every Tuesday and thursay in the muay thai room where I have a key. (see world according to garp).

So anyway, having gained 4 reais by my winning sense of humor, in front of her boss and a cop, I take out my earbuds because I might be offending some locals, and with my superb verbal judo, I go get the only new number of the night, I get the number of the cop, REDACTED!

How is that for smooth.

I go back to casa vagabundo, listen to russian music, like Miyagi I got love, play radio on music. youtube.com, and I play videos of my russian tutor sitting on my face which I shot Tuesday afternoon on the muay thai mats with her light pink pussy lips, and then her asshole, impaled on the bright pink usb dildo that a fellow ISG member brought me in January (17 usd on amazon), a 43 minute long video that is interrupted by her squirting all over my dji action 4 which fortunately has a scuba case.

The key to giving good head to a chick who can pick any dick in rio is to be her slave, and to use just the tongue.

And let her pick the porn.

Even if it is hardcore fem dom porn.

I mean, I don't care if she watches chicks with strapons fuck guys up the ass on the macbook as long as she lets me put my medium sized but thick dick up her ass to shoot a quick wad between writing her masters thesis at the library, which closes at 22 h, which is when I leave campus.

[TexaBroad]

Didn't realise would spark so much debate but fair enough I understand we don't want to spoil the market. Would just say we are talking about two different markets here. I've spent some proper time in Rio now. This was my 3rd time. My first trip I did spend as little as 800 BRL for an SA girl to be fair and a lot of "mileage" out of that 800 too from a university student. Invited to party with her etc as well. I also got scammed for 4. 5 k. I would accept this one was a pure scam as wasn't aware of the local market at this time & paid a US / Europe SA price. The second trip I visited some prives etc and paid sub-200 on occasion. I still mostly stuck with 4 x4 which was a lot more expensive. Especially for takeout. I would typically offer 1,000 BRL to girls on top of the takeout fee from 4 x4 - the girls explained they get c40% of the takeout fee from memory. Yes this is expensive but I'm only interested in meeting super-attractive / all-natural / english-speaking & I found more than 1 at 4 x4.

I guess this last trip the difference was this 2nd SA girl (Lorie) is probably the best out of the 150+ that I have seen worldwide. So is she overcharging for rio, probably yes. But seeing someone like her (all-natural / authentic university student / speaks near-fluent english / proper GFE / well-travelled & very intelligent & made this old-man feel very young again) I would pay 3 k to again. I have seen someone in Rio for 150 BRL. I would forget this experience within a week but remember probably the 3 k spent on SA Lorie for a very, very long time. Keen to fly her out etc. She told me upfront that she wouldn't meet for less than 3,000 because she had exams coming up. Maybe she would take a little less. I offered 2,000 and she just flat-out said no. Try her and see if she scammed me or sticks to her guns at that price, would be interested to know! My feeling here is that top-tier GFE experience SA will be able to charge such numbers as there will always be people willing to pay. Like I said (and I am of average means by no means rich) I would rather spend money on meeting someone truly memorable like this instead of a lot of less-appealing girls. Though I am sure there are some diamonds to be had even at the 150 BRL level, I can't see a well-travelled / english-speaking university student etc being found there. Hope I get proven wrong as it will make my next trip much cheaper! I am going to sort out bitcoin to upgrade so can discuss more via PM.

[CCRider1008]

As a comparison, see.

https://barravipsrio.com/acompanhantes-rio-de-janeiro-yasmin-mineira


You can find plenty of mineiras (the hottest brazilians) in photoaccompanhantes and even vm (I have some pics), and do them bare for 150 at your place after doing a session in their spot.

Easy to see the metro out here in 10 years if not 2.Are the reviews linked to PA site real or do the girls write them? Sorting by photo verified is useful feature on site but it has mix of sexy and nasty looking garotas. Many of which my punter 6th sense tells me are scammers which I fucking hate. Not because I fall for that at this stage but they waste my valuable time sorting through.

And before anyone tells me to read threads on PA save it. I've fucking read the threads. PA seems to have mixed reviews.

[Anaggie]

Didn't realise would spark so much debate.

Like I said (and I am of average means by no means rich) I would rather spend money on meeting someone truly memorable like this instead of a lot of less-appealing girls. Though I am sure there are some diamonds to be had even at the 150 BRL level, I can't see a well-travelled / english-speaking university student etc being found there. As soon as I saw your post, I knew you were about to get a beating. But don't worry too much about it. Stick to whatever you feel comfortable doing and more importantly. What you feel comfortable paying … It is YOUR MONEY. Fuck what a bunch of cheapskates say especially when you are in Rio for a few days at a time. I can assure you that you aren't going to find the girl that you are looking for at any of the termas. Especially the trash termas. Enjoy your time. Enjoy the girls you prefer. Make the memories and move forward.

From one Texan to another (I assume you are a Texan from your screen name) . Do send a PM if you have any questions about Rio or SP as I have been visiting for the last 20 yrs for work related trips with weekends thrown in for fun😜.

[NiteRiderCal]

Brazil is not popular with American right now. The flight is too long. Just my little observation. Back in the day, there was San francisco bay area Myredbook. It was fun, there was no reason to travel anywhere. But that turn into shit and expensive. Next come Humaniplex in S. Cal. That was so much fun. I fuck at least 10 or more pornstar or girl that later on become pornstar. It was better than anything I ever experience, better than Brazil, Germany, Tijuana or anywhere. But over time, that also turn into shit. So the Cali guy go to Tijuana, these day, it is shit compare to the past. Now it is columbia, guys are already complain about increasing price.

It just something that I notice, whenever, there is a massive amount of american guy, they make it rain, they tip and thing turn to shit.

[The Cane]

As soon as I saw your post, I knew you were about to get a beating. But don't worry too much about it. Stick to whatever you feel comfortable doing and more importantly. What you feel comfortable paying It is YOUR MONEY. Fuck what a bunch of cheapskates say especially when you are in Rio for a few days at a time. I can assure you that you aren't going to find the girl that you are looking for at any of the termas. Especially the trash termas. Enjoy your time. Enjoy the girls you prefer. Make the memories and move forward.

From one Texan to another (I assume you are a Texan from your screen name) . Do send a PM if you have any questions about Rio or SP as I have been visiting for the last 20 yrs for work related trips with weekends thrown in for fun😜.That doesn't resemble me. The fact of the matter is that he paid an absurd amount of money for the service! That's why you knew he was going to get beat up. He gave new meaning to the saying "everything is big in Texas". And now that he understands that, hopefully he will do better by his money the next time. But at the end of the day, it's as you say. It's his money. He can do what he wants to with it. But if he comes into a forum of public discourse telling us what he did with it, then it's only fair and reasonable to expect that those in that public forum just might have something to say to him about it. Don't want to hear it? Then don't post in a public forum and keep to yourself what you did with your money!

[Kevinburnz]

Great tips on travel but best part is pointing out there's no way you can get bored with the ladies of rio in just one month LOL.


Where have you been and what do you like? A one-month stay gives you a lot of options.

1. Near Rio: Buzios, Ilha Grande for beaches, Petropolis and Parati for the colonial history.

2. SP.

3. Iguassu Falls: You must see this if you've never been.

4. Florianapolis and Santa Catarina for the beaches.

5. Salvador and the Northeast for food, history and beaches.

6. Manaus for the Amazon tours.

7. Lencois Marenhances (sp), for breathtaking landscapes, but it's not an easy destination.

However, if you're only interested in the hobby, I can't imagine that you (or anyone) won't find enough meninas in Rio to keep you occupied for a month.

[MaddTraveler]

Didn't realise would spark so much debate but fair enough I understand we don't want to spoil the market. Would just say we are talking about two different markets here. I've spent some proper time in Rio now. This was my 3rd time. My first trip I did spend as little as 800 BRL for an SA girl to be fair and a lot of "mileage" out of that 800 too from a university student.Yo my dude, you keep repeating and putting emphasis on "University student". So her being in a university makes her pussy better? Most guys here incl myself understand the low mileage factor and I too hunt them, especially non-pros. In most countries where p4 p is legal has a huge % of university students doing it. On SA or in brothels. So I'm not sure on that special fetish on university attendance.

The cricism is normal. Happens in every forum because you did indeed overpay. I can get "university" girls in the states on SA for $300-$500. Some will spend the entire day. You spent nearly $1000 USD!! And not even an overnight date.

The point of the comments is to look at these girls objectively, and have a talk with your dick before you meet her and tell the little guy to not even blink during your date. That way you can make a fair assessment or whether or not she's being fair, greedy, etc. And not just letting the thinking coming out of your pants. As a gent to a gent, overpaying doesn't earn you extra points with the girls, in fact it does the opposite.

The rules of mongering are silent, no one will enforce them or come after you. Besides obviously it's your money and you can do whatever the fxk you want. I have money too, enough to blow 2000 r a day on pussy and I don't feel a thing. A month and half here so far and still rocking. But I do care on how these women see me out there. Hence why I'll call them out if they try to take 100 r from me without earning it.

My principle is you must earn it, or I give generously. Don't take or try to be smart. When a woman especially a wg in our hobby says prev guy paid this, then it's a flag to pay attention to. That game isn't that uncommon.

That's all bro. But do what you want.

[MaddTraveler]

As soon as I saw your post, I knew you were about to get a beating. But don't worry too much about it. Stick to whatever you feel comfortable doing and more importantly. What you feel comfortable paying It is YOUR MONEY. Fuck what a bunch of cheapskates say especially when you are in Rio for a few days at a time. I can assure you that you aren't going to find the girl that you are looking for at any of the termas. Especially the trash termas. Enjoy your time. Enjoy the girls you prefer. Make the memories and move forward.

From one Texan to another (I assume you are a Texan from your screen name) . Do send a PM if you have any questions about Rio or SP as I have been visiting for the last 20 yrs for work related trips with weekends thrown in for fun😜.Glad to see our buddy has found someone to back him up. But bro you might be taking this shit too seriously. If you read from any country and cities here, you'll see that this topic brings the most heated debates. Honestly no one truly care and it's for fun, although many usually say it's ruining the game. I don't live anywhere permanently so personally I couldn't care any less.

That said, no need to team up or bring a Texan gang together or losing sleep over this LOL. In case that's the plan. Guys are going to do whatever they want anyway. In fact he should pay her 10 k USD next time, then I will find her and pay her 200 r / $40 USD and bareback her all night incl CIP. That is of course if Vagabundo1 don't find her first LOL.

When a wg gets a nice payday from a chomp, they then charge their favorite clients less or take their BF shopping that week. I can't even begin to tell you how many SA girls that still today I'm banging bareback for $50 USD, university students too ha ha. And charge others min 5 x that amt. Clearly others were making up for my low amts, few would claim that too and said I was lucky being in a BF zone. This also means secretly I should be grateful for those who overpay. Seriously!!

All crap talk aside, negotiating skills is important. I have my own games and tactics. One of them is I let them know I'm not here on vacation and in town a while, and can easily be a resource, prefer to go out as a friend, BF, not as a client. Nonpros and semipros love that when you establish the environment as a normal friendship. Especially for the prideful ones that do not like being seen as a wg.

We rarely discuss money, we discuss business, I've helped girls invest, showed them how to set up webcams for those who model, etc. Sometimes these cam models get taken advantage of by agencies, and have no clue how to set themselves up independently. I also help them practice Math and basic English while in doggy style taking a pounding. Say "Yes daddy" louder! Basically, be more useful than just a dick or ppm. The website is against ppm anyway and encourages actual relationships, mentorships. Even though most do ppm. You can do these things even on short trips and I have.

I've read many reports of fellas building these friendships days or weeks before they arrive in town. And with that this is no brag or some rare success story. Based on other reports many have done this, and this is how you get the BF / friend treatment and you're not just a SD ATM machine.

These comments / suggestions and replies are to help the entire community as a whole, especially new mongers. They're not just "beatings" or critics. Recently someone wrote about his experience in SE Asia that wasnt so great, and noted that wg discriminates based on age, another mentioned the big dick factor is a thing.

What I think on this is that if you let the girl "Defaults" to her price then those things may be in effect. Gringo (which varies in types) tax does exist; for age among other factors. This is why negotiation and relationship building matters. You'll beat the status quo and get a fair treatment if you apply some intelligence. It's not magic.

[Vagabundo1]

Agreed. Spot on.


Brazil is not popular with American right now. The flight is too long. Just my little observation. Back in the day, there was San francisco bay area Myredbook. It was fun, there was no reason to travel anywhere. But that turn into shit and expensive. Next come Humaniplex in S. Cal. That was so much fun. I fuck at least 10 or more pornstar or girl that later on become pornstar. It was better than anything I ever experience, better than Brazil, Germany, Tijuana or anywhere. But over time, that also turn into shit. So the Cali guy go to Tijuana, these day, it is shit compare to the past. Now it is columbia, guys are already complain about increasing price.

It just something that I notice, whenever, there is a massive amount of american guy, they make it rain, they tip and thing turn to shit.

[Vagabundo1]

The premium on a university student.

I can see that, especially a international student who could potentially be a Baby Momma, with a education and the ability to earn a income and pass on tradition history, etc.

So Professor Vagabundo is at school today, and I get a Ï have a boyfriend from a girl who is tutoring me.

I still pay her $100 r to read me some music lyrics in her native tongue, which would look really good wrapped around my cock.

But on the uber out of the university, two things happen.

I text a italian university girl, like a hot af body building Italian girl. My inner Enzo Ferrari has like 12 cylinders churning as little Enzos find themselves flowing up my gonads to get in line.

Then some Brazilian student who does want to hug me and start calling me amor and beijos and all that texts and calls in the hour long 100 r ride back to Recreio.

But I don't feel that animal want to plough her brazilian big bunda the way I do my little Russian Seka doll.

But yesterday or the day before I fuck Monique, two times and night, once in the morning, BBFSCIP.

She is coming back over Saturday for the swing at Paris.

Well anyway, I can see the premium for a university girl. But then you have to look at the socioeconomic class -- Nova Iguacu will get you a university federal, what specialty exactly? Hmm.

Now there is a university in. ? . REDACTED heheh.


Yo my dude, you keep repeating and putting emphasis on "University student". So her being in a university makes her pussy better? Most guys here incl myself understand the low mileage factor and I too hunt them, especially non-pros. In most countries where p4 p is legal has a huge % of university students doing it. On SA or in brothels. So I'm not sure on that special fetish on university attendance.

The cricism is normal. Happens in every forum because you did indeed overpay. I can get "university" girls in the states on SA for $300-$500. Some will spend the entire day. You spent nearly $1000 USD!! And not even an overnight date.

The point of the comments is to look at these girls objectively, and have a talk with your dick before you meet her and tell the little guy to not even blink during your date. That way you can make a fair assessment or whether or not she's being fair, greedy, etc. And not just letting the thinking coming out of your pants. As a gent to a gent, overpaying doesn't earn you extra points with the girls, in fact it does the opposite.

The rules of mongering are silent, no one will enforce them or come after you. Besides obviously it's your money and you can do whatever the fxk you want. I have money too, enough to blow 2000 r a day on pussy and I don't feel a thing. A month and half here so far and still rocking. But I do care on how these women see me out there. Hence why I'll call them out if they try to take 100 r from me without earning it.

My principle is you must earn it, or I give generously. Don't take or try to be smart. When a woman especially a wg in our hobby says prev guy paid this, then it's a flag to pay attention to. That game isn't that uncommon.

That's all bro. But do what you want.

[NiteRiderCal]

University student doesn't mean anything. You can find University student in the termas. She was very hot. After the room, I ask for her number and if she want to spend 5 hours with me. She say only on a few specific day because she have to go to the University. I asked her how about 1000 for 5 hours. She say nao, that is too low. That she also work for an agency and they paid alot more. I sit there thinking to myself, why the fuck you sit here by yourself all night. She may get 2 or 3 guys per night? How much did she collect, oh, 250 per hour per guy. That is 750 at most. The next day I walk in, she go up to me and gave me a big kiss, hoping I will make the same offer again, but I rejected her. Every subsequent night she try and I push her away. BTW, these girl do talk to each other. A fuck another girl and she ask me to take her number and she want to meet me outside of the club.

Another girl in SP, at Casarão Augusta. I already fuck, we was walking out of the club, and saw this crazy hot girl walk in. I told my brazilian friend to get her phone number. Next day I texted her. She say 3500 for 5 hour, 500 reai for 1 hour minium. Hahhahha. Seriously, did she just threw out some number and forgot to do math. I rejected her. She texted me again and again for a whole week.

See, when a girl do shit like that. She might be hot, but it turn me off. Its maybe illogical on my part. In my head, I'm thinking, Since I already have a bad vibe, it is going to be bad.

[Bravo]

That doesn't resemble me. The fact of the matter is that he paid an absurd amount of money for the service! That's why you knew he was going to get beat up. He gave new meaning to the saying "everything is big in Texas". And now that he understands that, hopefully he will do better by his money the next time. But at the end of the day, it's as you say. It's his money. He can do what he wants to with it. But if he comes into a forum of public discourse telling us what he did with it, then it's only fair and reasonable to expect that those in that public forum just might have something to say to him about it. Don't want to hear it? Then don't post in a public forum and keep to yourself what you did with your money!I felt the same way when I saw the comment, like "Who the fuck is he calling a cheapskate?" If anything, he should be happy that members are taking time out to help a fellow monger. I don't know where he is from, but in New Jersey we APPRECIATE people who try to save us money, who let us know where we can get a better deal for a fraction of the price! It might come across as tough love but at the end of the day, we don't want to see someone be taken advantage of. I don't understand members complaining about. "How dare you save me money! I guess it takes all kinds.

[Mr Enternational]

I felt the same way when I saw the comment, like "Who the fuck is he calling a cheapskate?" If anything, he should be happy that members are taking time out to help a fellow monger. I don't know where he is from, but in New Jersey we APPRECIATE people who try to save us money, who let us know where we can get a better deal for a fraction of the price!You have to remember that it is always different when it comes to pussy. If this was a forum about fixing cars and the guy said he went to the dealership and bought a part for 3000 reais then someone comes on and says you can get that same part aftermarket for 500 reais, the person would be thanked by everyone instead of being called a cheapskate by some. There would be nobody egging the guy on to keep going to the dealership because it is his money and he should buy those OEM parts if he pleases. But bring pussy into the equation and egos get big and all bets are off.

[Mr Enternational]

University student doesn't mean anything.Back in the Help days you know how many chicks claimed to be university students and nurses and all kind of shit? As far as I could tell, it made no difference when it came to fucking. Besides, I used to be a university student and during that time fucked countless university students. I have also fucked plenty of chicks from various occupations for free. Really nothing special that I would need to pay more for. Besides, I am hiring her to fuck, not to study, do legal briefs, give enemas, or none of that other shit that she may be doing outside of the bed. Her being a university student or whatever the hell else counts the same amount of points as her telling me her favorite color is orange.


I asked her how about 1000 for 5 hours. She say nao, that is too low. That she also work for an agency and they paid alot more. I sit there thinking to myself, why the fuck you sit here by yourself all night. She may get 2 or 3 guys per night? How much did she collect, oh, 250 per hour per guy. That is 750 at most. The next day I walk in, she go up to me and gave me a big kiss, hoping I will make the same offer again, but I rejected her.There was a chick like that in Kenya a couple of months ago. She said 100. I said 100 shillings (74 cent) is not enough. She said $100. I laughed. I told her 5,000 shillings ($37) as that was the most common price I saw in the forum. She rejected it and said at least 8,000 shillings ($60). I said no way. Like you said, everyday after that she started blowing me up wanting to come for the 5,000. I pulled my Fat Joe on her though. Ohhh, but yesterday's price is not today's price. Somebody with less ego already came and got the 5,000. Today's price is 3,000 shillings ($22).


She say 3500 for 5 hour, 500 reai for 1 hour minium. Hahhahha. Seriously, did she just threw out some number and forgot to do math. I rejected her. She texted me again and again for a whole week.It is because they lead with ego, then that next day those bills and hunger override the ego and they come to their senses.

[Nounce]

I felt the same way when I saw the comment, like "Who the fuck is he calling a cheapskate?" If anything, he should be happy that members are taking time out to help a fellow monger. I don't know where he is from, but in New Jersey we APPRECIATE people who try to save us money, who let us know where we can get a better deal for a fraction of the price! It might come across as tough love but at the end of the day, we don't want to see someone be taken advantage of. I don't understand members complaining about. "How dare you save me money! I guess it takes all kinds.The problem is that you have no experience of what he experienced. He already tried the cheaper place and did not find it there. He can only save money by taking a girl not to his liking.

It maybe funny to consider it as a competition, but that is what it is. The girls in Sao Paulo may not even reply to you if your profile is not good enough to her. One way to learn is to have the girl show you how other men are presenting themselves, and how they attract their attention. People are not sharing for many reasons. The response here is one reason.

He was paying less before. There is an large upward price increase in Sao Paulo. There is no room for bargaining for some girls like he mentioned and some were asking per hour. This is from personal experience. The most reliable way to find the same type of girls for less is to spend time to prepare to talk to more girls before the trip.

If you can find the same type of girls in the cheaper place, you are one of the lucky ones.

He paid more for his time, not for the girl's time.

[Nounce]

english-speaking university studentHe wants this, not just university student. If your example doesn't qualify, then it doesn't help him. I think he wanted certain style or type of girls that he often found in university students. If you can't tell the difference, again, good for you because you are paying less to get the same result.

[Vagabundo1]

With some work, you can get the english speaking and / or unviersity aspect of the interaction which itself is a cool thing. I won't reveal deets or sources and methods, so to speak, but it's a little common sense, and a little work.

That said, Mr. E is right. University pussy is just pussy.

The great thing about Rio is that you have the best pussy infrastructure on earth right here at any tier, any cost level, just a uber or bus or metro ride away, so you can structure a life to get both hot ass fuck on command pussy from some prive girls at a low price, and get the interaction with the english speaking unviersity girls. Maybe not all at the exact same time, but with all the physical and mind fucking you want or need.


He wants this, not just university student. If your example doesn't qualify, then it doesn't help him. I think he wanted certain style or type of girls that he often found in university students. If you can't tell the difference, again, good for you because you are paying less to get the same result.

[MarcoStraight]

Can't believe someone paid 6,000 Reais for a session like that. Totally outrageous and unnecessary. One can pay less for better service. Way less! GFE or PSE or whatever. Geez! I tend not to comment on what guys pay but when I saw that had to gasp WTF? Really? That's not what a seasoned monger does. That's just what a horny guy with money to blow does. And don't let him come back and tell us he's seasoned. He's not. Because his actions speak louder than any words to the contrary. Tute hit a payday windfall! And will then come back talking about what her last sugar daddy paid her. Yeah well, I'm not him! So you can get to stepping up out of here!I can't believe there are people willing to pay 6000 k for 3 hours of sex in Rio, No way! This is Rio, not Dubai! Doesn't matter how you look like or where you came from, paying this ammount of money is not only outrageous and unnecessary, it's a crime for all the true mongers. These are acceptable prices for the Arab sheikhs who have unlimited economic availability, not true old fashion mongers.

If you want to spend this ammount of money go somewhere else, the world is full of luxury places. Dubai, Kuwait, Montecarlo, Switzerland, Japan, go there and leave places like Brazil, Thailand, Phillipines, Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Colombia, to the right mongers.

[FilthyBeaver]

It's a data point. Should we start lying about what we pay or not say anything at all? So it's high, it's not going to pollute the entire scene. At most, she'll get an artificial indicator of her worth and be slapped down by the next 2 or 3 mongers that laugh her off. Maybe she'll tell a couple friends in the business and they'll also get inflated until they're not. There's no need to beat the guy up over it. I don't remember reading that she held a gun to his head or he decided his kids shouldn't eat that week so he could bang a girl he was obviously smitten with, not that that's any of our business either.


I can't believe there are people willing to pay 6000 k for 3 hours of sex in Rio, No way! This is Rio, not Dubai! Doesn't matter how you look like or where you came from, paying this ammount of money is not only outrageous and unnecessary, it's a crime for all the true mongers. These are acceptable prices for the Arab sheikhs who have unlimited economic availability, not true old fashion mongers.

If you want to spend this ammount of money go somewhere else, the world is full of luxury places. Dubai, Kuwait, Montecarlo, Switzerland, Japan, go there and leave places like Brazil, Thailand, Phillipines, Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Colombia, to the right mongers.

[CCRider1008]

University student doesn't mean anything.

Another girl in SP, at Casaro Augusta. I already fuck, we was walking out of the club, and saw this crazy hot girl walk in. I told my brazilian friend to get her phone number. Next day I texted her. She say 3500 for 5 hour, 500 reai for 1 hour minium. Hahhahha. Seriously, did she just threw out some number and forgot to do math. I rejected her. She texted me again and again for a whole week.

See, when a girl do shit like that. She might be hot, but it turn me off. Its maybe illogical on my part. In my head, I'm thinking, Since I already have a bad vibe, it is going to be bad.You're not alone friend. I don't mind an initial very short pleasant back and forth on price, but if it persists and is her focus then complete turnoff. Even if I get my price I can't fuck them after that. We all know they are in it for the money, which is fine, but the good ones allow that to fade in the background quickly. With that said one can't be a dick about money either. If she's asking for another 100 reals and is hot and pleasant, who gives a shit?

[Vagabundo1]

In SP or any big city, you can find the university, and you can find the liberal fraternity / sorority where the students are smoking weed.

So, try this.

Go to the prive / clinca for the cheap, hot pussy, then with your nut busted for 150 or 250 reais, go to the university, and smoke weed with the college kids.

Do it 2 times a week.

By the end of week 2 you will have college girls hitting on you. For the price of a student meal in the dining hall, which costs 13 reais.

13 reais.

Best conversation I have had in years, or ever.

Just do it.

Extra credit for training muay thai with the student atletas and going to the college bars and beaches with them.


You're not alone friend. I don't mind an initial very short pleasant back and forth on price, but if it persists and is her focus then complete turnoff. Even if I get my price I can't fuck them after that. We all know they are in it for the money, which is fine, but the good ones allow that to fade in the background quickly. With that said one can't be a dick about money either. If she's asking for another 100 reals and is hot and pleasant, who gives a shit?

[Gandi718]

Massagem tijuca just raised their price from 180 to 200 per hour from 120 to 150 for half hour. Probably all of the places will slowly follow.

[Vagabundo1]

English.

One way that Vagabundo manages the language barrier is with over the ear headphones. I give them to the girl, in this case Monique, who I have fucked twice BBFSCIP on this sabbath (shalom). I am listening to an Adam Sandler comedy on Netflix. Now usually another girl, like Anne Amari both regulates the number of fucks and the worst is that she insists on listening to some brazilian portoguese language sh7 t like this is her mfkn country.

So, that is one practical way to manage the language barrier.

OK, now english speaking adds a factor of connection, especially when it is a college girl.

College implies a wider world view. Monique here, bubble butt and all, hasn't been further away from rio than a condor flies. A condor probably flies further away.

So, there is that. You can declare your love for a college chick plan to have a family fantasize about that future, drive up the west coast of Ireland, scuba dive what's left of the great barrier reef in Australia, or bang her in the shadow of the Eiffel tower or whatever. Does that make the sex better? An actual, good functioning marriage is the optimal situatiion. Does that ever really happen with a big age difference? A college chick is going to be into college guys. I am technically a college student, taking some language classes, but even with my limited game, I have legit college chicks giving me the big hug and calling me amor and texting me at night and calling and giving off all the they want the big vagabundo between their legs vibes -- just not the exact ones I want, but that is just a matter of time. I still do 70 minutes of Muay Thai with the college athletes two times a week, and all the other MMA and swiming and foot volei, and it is good for my body and soul.

What's good for my dick is affordable negra bare pussy that also cooks cleans and goes to the swing and nude beach with me, and puts on the over the ear headphones and lets me watch a adam sandler movie in English.

Would it be better if it were an Italian college or a Brazilian rich family chick from Recreio? That is coming, and it won't be long. You just walk around the campus with your testicles emptied by rio's finest hoars and you give off that Recreio Vice kinda vibe, and the girls just kind of smell the come fuck me smell, which is actually Nivea 5 multi use creme that the Muay Thai team mates recommend, and you kinda smear some of that over your legs while you're spending your whiskey money on some college princess to tutor you in love songs in her language. I spent 500 reais on whiskey and red bull alone last time I went to Paris. I spent 100 reais last week on a real grand daughter of a Youth League for Lenin to explain to me the finer points of Miyagi I Found Love, which is a cool song.

Keep the Russian chicks coming, just let me know where to find more of them.

Selah.

[Nounce]

Guys, your numbers are way off. The most he paid was 3 K per session. If you read his post, he knew what he was doing, he just does not negotiate very well and is not very demanding. If you want to help, show him how to get more value for his money.


She said her former SD from the site would give her 2 k BRL per meet


paying 3-6 thousand Reais for 3 hours?


Can't believe someone paid 6,000 Reais for a session like that. I can see at least 10 new messages everyday when I am active, I handle them by attractiveness, then perhaps by availability and value. Many I don't even have time to respond to. Now, reverse the role to girl's point of view. Let's say a popular one can easily have a hypnotically 50 new messages a day, she is likely to choose from the highest bidder, then maybe by attractiveness. If you are the first on the list, and you said no, she has another 49 waiting and that is just one day. or she get your price, she may come back 1 month later to accept it because she ran out of the higher price ones. LOL. Girls have the advantage on dating sites.

There are definitely people paying these prices, I too have been wondering who were paying these prices. SP has more girls, but there are more competitions chasing the limited hot ones. I don't know about Rio but I guess it is turning into like SP.

[Tochka]

This note is for Sunday guys. I arrived at GIG airport Sunday morning. The day. After Madonna's crazy concert show on Copacabana. Took Uber and airport wifi instructions posted in Complete Idiot's Guide to Copacabana.

Sim card is still a pain in the ass to find and activate. I took an Uber from GiG to SDU Bossa Nova Mall. The Banco24 ATM always works there with my card for cash withdrawals.

I got two or three cheap chocolate gift wrap presents for my long-time garotas in Bossa Nova mall. For Sunday morning and afternoon I lined up eight different garotas in advance from Monte Carlos and Solarium, to meet at Panda Hotel.

Expecting a 50 percent no-show rate. Of course, despite careful planning, three garotas show up exactly same time. No problems. Its Brazil. They can do hot lesbo action in a two-hour foursome. Whatta country! Dayum Two other are garotas are scheduled to meet tonight at 9 pm. For another threesome. Not a bad Sunday fun day if scheduled in advance.

[Sushruth]

Brothers,

May I know the choices I have in Copacabana. Are the prices are on par with Bangkok?

Could I request you share some inputs?

[Vagabundo1]

You need to clear your inbox.


Brothers,

May I know the choices I have in Copacabana. Are the prices are on par with Bangkok?

Could I request you share some inputs?

[Turgid]

Brothers,

May I know the choices I have in Copacabana. Are the prices are on par with Bangkok?

Could I request you share some inputs?Sushruth sush!

[Tochka]

Centro prive Duda massage is my favorite. They had two new, light-skinned beauties. Dayum! The Airbnb was in a condo one block from Eden Spa, two blocks from Monte Carlo. Beach two blocks away. Only went once! Preferred to spend the daytime getting sloppy BJs from twenty years old Meghan duchess of sucksex Markle. The Complete Idiot's Guide to Copacabana is a great guide, followed it and worked for a TIM sim card, no CPF, and no passport needed. Damn easy breezy. To finally get e-SIM to work. There is a new TIM shop just opened on Friday. It is located between Mcdonald's and Bradesco banc on Av Nossa Sra de Copacabana.

The trafico sucks getting to Centro and Panda Hotel. I will follow the vagabundo lead to take the bus to the Centro or move closer to the massage places in the centro. I stayed in Duda message for four hours 3-7 p duplo sessions. Monte Carlo is within walking distance. So had lots of repeat fun there. Tomorrow off to são Paulo for a couple nights in Scandallo.

[Wkahddl2]

I am currently enjoying my time in Medellin, Colombia. My plan is to visit all South American countries, so now I'm thinking of moving on to Brazil. Any advice you guys could give me would be greatly appreciated!

From what I've seen, scandalo in São Paulo seems to be the best brothel in the world, is that correct?

I don't know where to visit between Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo.

Which city is better for a sex tour?

And in which cities is it easier to find a date, and not just for prostitution?

And is it true that Brazil has the hottest girls? I think Colombian girls are more reserved.

[Tochka]

Before heading out to Sao Paulo flight in the morning, my horny ass hooked up with two pretty, energetic garotas last night. We went to Panda short-timenhotel, again. I always get the presidential suite. The rooms at Panda are six hours or 12 hours booking.

I have knownn both gals for a couple of years meeting them in Scandallos and Soloarium.

On wassap I agreed to pay each of them $800 reais until exhaustion. So we can spend lot of quality fuck and suck time together. I completely forgot these garotas never met each other before, and I had in mind a duplo, threesome session.

Each garota arrived prompt on time wish fucking DR chicas can learn to be on time from brasilianas. Also forgot to tell each garota it was a duplo session. They arrived in lobby of Panda at the same time, giving each other the stink eye, cause they came to see the same guy. , me. Haha. , I mean kkk.

For security Panda calls you first before the garota can come to the room, or when she leaves.

The branca garota is from the country side, the other chica is a mulutta Meghan Markle, pretty but her ass straight street hood deep from favels. Ghetto hood if ya know what I mean. She is a damn firecracker.

She was ready to fight the branca. In the lobby, of Panda.

When they called me I was laughing my ass off. Had to remind the garota WTF, she got married early last year l. Now she is sneaking off, after work, to suck, slobber and full deepthroat swallow my dick leche. Haha.

I brought two red gift bags from the chocolate shop. I buy inexpensive chocolates, for my favorite chicas. The chocolate shop does a very fancy gift wrapping for free. Gave them both edible chocolate roses. She immediately stopped being jealous, swore me to secrecy, about being there. Well yeah of course! Goddamn her brazilian jealousy runs hot. Told her to go make the branca garota feel better by licking her pussy until she squirts. She did a wicked smile, grabbed a few toys and went to town on her pussy lips. Two squirts later the branca is feeling relaxed and comfortable.

Luv brasil, a country where two garotas, having ever met before will go down on each other pussyb and become best of friends afterwards.

It was A really fun night with music, drinks, sexy dancing, illusion of passion, a sex orgy until all three of us were exhausted. Both were jumping up and down on bed like it was sexy sleepover for the gals. Panda has kick ass booming bass speakers to bluetooth connect spotify music.

Seriously I don't remember how long it lasted, nobody cared, nobody was watching time.

My muleta Meghan Markle was walking around the room wearing my shirt and undershirt. She says it smells of me.

I don't remember how long we were together, nobody cared about watching time. Made the flight from Rio to Sao Paulo.

YMMV.

[Steve 9696]

Before heading out to Sao Paulo flight in the morning, my horny ass hooked up with two pretty, energetic garotas last night. We went to Panda short-timenhotel, again. I always get the presidential suite. The rooms at Panda are six hours or 12 hours booking.

I have knownn both gals for a couple of years meeting them in Scandallos and Soloarium.

On wassap I agreed to pay each of them $800 reais until exhaustion. So we can spend lot of quality fuck and suck time together. I completely forgot these garotas never met each other before, and I had in mind a duplo, threesome session.

Each garota arrived prompt on time wish fucking DR chicas can learn to be on time from brasilianas. Also forgot to tell each garota it was a duplo session. They arrived in lobby of Panda at the same time, giving each other the stink eye, cause they came to see the same guy. , me. Haha. , I mean kkk.

For security Panda calls you first before the garota can come to the room, or when she leaves.

The branca garota is from the country side, the other chica is a mulutta Meghan Markle, pretty but her ass straight street hood deep from favels. Ghetto hood if ya know what I mean. She is a damn firecracker.

She was ready to fight the branca. In the lobby, of Panda.

When they called me I was laughing my ass off. Had to remind the garota WTF, she got married early last year l. Now she is sneaking off, after work, to suck, slobber and full deepthroat swallow my dick leche. Haha.

I brought two red gift bags from the chocolate shop. I buy inexpensive chocolates, for my favorite chicas. The chocolate shop does a very fancy gift wrapping for free. Gave them both edible chocolate roses. She immediately stopped being jealous, swore me to secrecy, about being there. Well yeah of course! Goddamn her brazilian jealousy runs hot. Told her to go make the branca garota feel better by licking her pussy until she squirts. She did a wicked smile, grabbed a few toys and went to town on her pussy lips. Two squirts later the branca is feeling relaxed and comfortable.

Luv brasil, a country where two garotas, having ever met before will go down on each other pussyb and become best of friends afterwards.

It was A really fun night with music, drinks, sexy dancing, illusion of passion, a sex orgy until all three of us were exhausted. Both were jumping up and down on bed like it was sexy sleepover for the gals. Panda has kick ass booming bass speakers to bluetooth connect spotify music.

Seriously I don't remember how long it lasted, nobody cared, nobody was watching time.

My muleta Meghan Markle was walking around the room wearing my shirt and undershirt. She says it smells of me.

I don't remember how long we were together, nobody cared about watching time. Made the flight from Rio to Sao Paulo.

YMMV.Haha. Love the way you roll man! That sounds like a blast. And just roll with the punches and get the most out of life. And Brasileiras are def unique. Best girls on the planet. Not even close!

[Explorer69]

I am not certain if this can give anyone new information where and what to hunt. But I decided to tell a little about my experiences in Rio de Janeiro we all do it a bit differently.

In order that you shall understand my style, I need to introduce myself. First of all, I am 80 eighty. Years old. At home (Northern Europe), people believe that I am 70, however, Brazilians think I am in my late 50 ies. I still have most of my (now white) hair and I am reasonably slim. I am blue-eyed. Big plus in Brazil and originally very blond. I am single (widower).

My first time in Rio was in 1983 and I have been a regular since that being in love with Brasileiras. I will not tell about all my experiences during the years, but concentrate on my last 12-days visit in April. I am still fully active at work. I am very lucky: during the last 5 years I visited Rio every 3rd month 3 days connected to work and another week for play.

Usually I stay in the same apartment on Ipanema or maybe in a hotel on Copacabana. My last visit was in April. I am lazy I have a regular routine. Usually start around 10 pm at Mabs. I almost never pick something there I avoid the sharks like fire. But a few times, I have found some gem: the young girl who now and then would go to get some extra money for a new dress. After Mabs, I go to Casablanca around 11 pm. In most cases I find what I am looking for, but I have also gone home alone. I look for the young, unexperienced girl although sometimes I go with the older (30! More experienced ones. I have fucked several of the strippers there.

I spend time interviewing the girls. I never ask for what services they provide I am pretty standard and when we get the right connection they are in for what I want: mutual oral sex and fucking. The interview is more to check the girl's personality, to get a feeling if we have common sympathy and some kind of emotional connection. I always take the girl out of the club and to my apartment explain that it is not until morning, but for a few hours. In that way there is no time for them to go back to the club.

In the apartment I treat them like my girlfriend, respectfully, we drink wine, talk, ask about their life, get to know each other more, maybe this lasts for an hour (I am generally interested in people). Then shower and bed. Instead of expecting the girl to serve me, I serve the girl, kissing her all over the body and ending up with going down on her, usually giving her 1-2 orgasms. After this, the girl is open for everything. Oral sex on me fucking as much as I / we want.

At my age, I can't have sex 3 times a day, I am very happy with once a day. However, because of my age I can control myself, so in principle I can fuck for a long time in every position until I am physically exhausted and just want to rest.

In about 50% of cases everything feels so good that I invite her back the next evening, maybe with dinner. Usually this pleases the girls a lot and the next day (s) we fuck like we are real lovers and this is the end of the world. Of course this is not what happens all the time, but maybe 50%, thanks to good interviewing.

This time in Rio, the first night in Casablanca, I took a girl without proper interview and everything was mediocre and not interesting. The second night I found the gem: 18 years, very beautiful, second visit in her life to Casablanca. Big success we met the evening after as well.

The rest of my time was shared between her and a beautiful student at one of the academic institutions that I visit in Rio. The student girl was not a pro, but she was looking for a sugar daddy and found me as a likely candidate! The first evening I was with her, I was uncertain what she was open for so I only took her for dinner. The next evening she was in bed.

To finish, I had an interesting experience when I checked into hotel Windsor Excelsior the last 3 days because my apartment was no longer free. I wanted Pestana, but there were no rooms. Coming to the hotel room I read on some hotel instructions that no guests are allowed in rooms So in the evening I checked the student girl in as my girlfriend. It was fun and a bit embarrassing to see the face of the guy in reception when he checked in the 24 year old girlfriend of the 80-year old!

[Bravo]

In order that you shall understand my style, I need to introduce myself. First of all, I am 80 eighty. Years old. At home (Northern Europe), people believe that I am 70, however, Brazilians think I am in my late 50 ies. I still have most of my (now white) hair and I am reasonably slim. I am blue-eyed. Big plus in Brazil and originally very blond. I am single (widower).

Salute sir, you are an inspiration!

[Xpartan]

Salute sir, you are an inspiration!Second that!

[Brsvv]

I am currently enjoying my time in Medellin, Colombia. My plan is to visit all South American countries, so now I'm thinking of moving on to Brazil. Any advice you guys could give me would be greatly appreciated!

From what I've seen, scandalo in So Paulo seems to be the best brothel in the world, is that correct?

I don't know where to visit between Rio de Janeiro and So Paulo.

Which city is better for a sex tour?

And in which cities is it easier to find a date, and not just for prostitution?

And is it true that Brazil has the hottest girls? I think Colombian girls are more reserved.In my opinion São Paulo is better than Rio de Janeiro. São Paulo has more quantity and has everything for everyone, but it is pricier than Rio de Janeiro. As far as dating goes pretty much any major city in Brazil (I. E São Paulo, Rio, Belo Horizonte, Curitiba, Florianopolis) The amount of women Brazil has is unreal.

Are the girls in Brazil hotter than Colombia? That's subjective but if you were to ask me, the ones in Brazil are hotter and fuck better.

[Vagabundo1]

Viking Madonna: Memories of my melancholy hoars by Gabriel Garcia Marquez.

To our list of hoaring literature, we must add the below fine novella (just 5 hours on audible), which is about a 90 year old man who orders a 14 year old virgin hoar from his favorite madam. Apart from the legalities and morality, there are bits of health tips for we old dudes (vagabundo himself is 88'; and he notes that Hemingway once said all great writers are liars, and Vagabundo aspires to be a great writer).

https://www.amazon.com/Memories-Melancholy-*****s-Gabriel-M%C3%A1rquez/dp/1400095948/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3IUB1HELEQTBO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.cDFyHXcLbB2HLlxRgxxetuTneo8o1WpUSnuJEjqtVnZTopr5uhJ3-PeB_6J7mUxvLWtEUWXKlshFLue_FCO1WSq2Oi7deOSz-6MgkovsL0CUQ1EI-E9xC0sdAUjg1WjFDF0qdNMwC4QnA2PhQIZ2sUL5JA9Kt3AcRhPSd26X8qcSlgqsyeT7ONan-NLFlvt5nNKcJwWB2_HebKzA6RbP92o-wE0Dc2jZyHxFy4fo1cI.7P6_JaZF-rsMdSMCccpArUdtVu6glGt2L2JNj5WnqyU&dib_tag=se&keywords=memories+of+my+melancholy&qid=1715451076&sprefix=memories+of+my+me%2 Caps%2 C214&sr=8-1.

Vagabundo is writing his own novella of this genre with a 21 year old silly viking girl here in rio using his 17 centimeter pen to dip into the tight, white, fit, yoga and swimming trained inner thighs of his viking princess, who swims at 05 h30 and does yoga at 18 h, and vagabundo follows her long blond legs to do exactly the same routine like a good slave to his viking madonna queen! She doesn't carry a pistol or a knife yet like the Russian, she carries a iphone and Vagabundo will carry religiously a iphone battery for her for she uses the iphone to call in drone strikes on the ballsacs of Russian and Commando Vermelha in a forthcoming Tropa de Elite 3 / Cidade de Deus 2/ Dom Season 3/ Top Gun 3 all with Madonna fucking Tom Cruise in a Russian Hind Helicopter that rises like a angry Eagle from a 20,000 ton roll on / roll off ship that Vagabundo, 88, and Silly Viking, 21, hijack by the dozen down in Porto Allegre, Santos, and up in Salvador, Fortaleza, and Havana, where Vagabundo grows a beard to blend in with his fellow communists, giving lectures on Lenin in perfect Russian while drinking fine Tequila by the gallon dripping down the snow white blond ass cheeks of the Silly Viking Madonna who sits on his face three times a day, between sunrise ocean swims and sunset yoga out at Recreio Praia Macumba or at Praia Abrico or Praia Boi out in Buzios or at Arrail do Cabo or Ihla Grande.

More than once in the months since we met on a boat party where we talked endlessly in English as the Viking Madonna comes from a civilized nation, she messaged Vagabundo on Life360, and with SWISS NAVY friends, we all came running to pull her skinny blond ass out of the trouble that a svelte viking princess can find in Rio de Janeiro, even when she had the Russian ball gagged for a little dupla gone wrong. But, Vagabundo, never missing a chance to fuck a Russian, gobbled up some generic viagra and cialis like a viking from the long Schwartz line of the baltics, and he slid his bratwurst into the kunt of the Russian, breeding her like his grandfather so many decades ago in Stalingrad, a parting gift to Lenin and its youth league lead by the Russian's grandfather.

Negra Monique came over today, the sabbath (Shabbat Shalom, my flock), and for 300 r she milked my bratwurst 6 times for a CPF of 50+ uber, which is the basis for the pathetic GDP (Garota the Programa) of Lula's communist cock-sucking experiment in Latino Socialism, not to be controversial, and purely for educational and artistic purposes. Monique cleaned, all the better because Vagabundo lead by example and cleaned alongside her negra booty, but all the time, Vagabundo thought of his Viking Madonna, 21, with her blond viking hair wet against her face as he kissed her on the beach for the first time on Thursday, later in the day to suck on her pert 21 year old nipples in his apartment, which was a mess where she had to recharge her iphone and we ate a meal of salmon na brasa from Casuarina. As I type this, Anne Amari is messaging me, and my viking madonna has an academic event, but I am sick of Anne Amari who doesn't fuck enough, or clean, and always has emergencies and refuses to learn english despite Vagabundo dropping hints if not outright commands. Vagabundo is a terrible person in how he blatantly refused all of Nina Deponca's pleas for work as a cleaning only maid (300 r for cleaning, she proposed, to which Vagabundo countered 50 or 100; remember men, as Sperto says, minimum wage here is 1300 reais a month. So don't overpay). Vagabundo could not screenshot his messages to Nina Deponca as they are offensive, both on the grounds of content, and on the grounds of being pornographic in that Nia Nacci 2015's mouth is wrapped around Vagabundo's bratwurst.

I fuck.

I write.

Like Henry "Vagabundo" Miller.

Like Gabriel Garcia Marquez.

Because on days around Centro and Tijuca I put in my earphones, and I listen to Marquez' Memories of my melancholy hoars.

Truth is that in South America, SOUTHCOM to we SWISS Navy veterans, the rules are different, thankfully.

In 2030, my viking Madonna and I will swim out to a SWISS NAVY submarine at sunrise from a REDACTED beach. Perhaps we will skip our normal breakfast at the little coffee shop across the street from Centaurus where the macho cops show how bad their weapons handling is by putting the barrels of their M4 rifles on their boots, threatening to have to explain to their commanding officers how they shot their toes off to look a little more cool. But the local cops all train jiu jitsu. Pick the coffee shops where the cops lounge around as a rule, and put on the patch that shows your blood type in correct Rio de Janeiro Bombeiro fashion, give the cops a nod as you kiss your viking Madonna on the lips on the way to her Portuguese exam, confident that your street Portuguese is good enough to get a cops number at Paris Cafe even if it is not good enough to get a stripper's number. Then meet her just off campus to avoid the embarrassment to her of dating a man 67 years her senior. I drink the blood of young clones and am injected with the stem cells of the Boys from Brazil under the supervision of Slavic Orthodox doctors working for the Russian Consulate in Leblon who have ski-ed across the frontier from Russia into Norway, then South to the Baltic, and from thence aboard a Virginia class boat chartered by the Vatican to bring the Book of Ruth in all the Baltic Languages in Rio to again start civilization. In the salty heaven of our sunrise swims, my Viking Madonna paces our swims, as she strokes on her fins from her long legs which I bought her at Decathlon in Barra.

Selah.


I am not certain if this can give anyone new information where and what to hunt. But I decided to tell a little about my experiences in Rio de Janeiro we all do it a bit differently.

In order that you shall understand my style, I need to introduce myself. First of all, I am 80 eighty. Years old. At home (Northern Europe), people believe that I am 70, however, Brazilians think I am in my late 50 ies. I still have most of my (now white) hair and I am reasonably slim. I am blue-eyed. Big plus in Brazil and originally very blond. I am single (widower).

My first time in Rio was in 1983 and I have been a regular since that being in love with Brasileiras. I will not tell about all my experiences during the years, but concentrate on my last 12-days visit in April. I am still fully active at work. I am very lucky: during the last 5 years I visited Rio every 3rd month 3 days connected to work and another week for play..

[Steve 9696]

Here's how it went down with my second bareback Mexicana goddess in the last month! LOL.

Day 1:

Wow. Just totally blown away by this girl. Might have made the crucial "never pay first" error but damn what a girl. Here's how it went down.

First the lead up banter was super interesting. I was actually at a bar having a drink because my other Seeking date stood me up. And I was on a roll being very forward chatting up Liz. Telling her to join me. She seemed really intrigued and we chatted a bunch and agreed to meetup today.

I thought she might be a real player or catfish (and still could be. If so hats off to her!) because some of the texts were just a bit forward or off. She was saying she thought I was really handsome and liked my energy. Said she likes to fuck! LOL. And said she wants to see more of me (implying what? Dick pics?

Well she turns out to be super real. Just my type. Petite Mexican girl with a banging rack (it turns out). We settle in at this little dive bar I like and just hit it off. Waitress comes three times and we are still chatting too much to look at the menus. Just really great chat and chemistry from minute one.

She is intrigued by my sexless marriage and confesses she has a boyfriend but he kinda treats her bad. We just chat on and on. She is an open book.

I came within inches of closing the deal and taking g her to the hotel. She first protested she was on her period but when I said I didn't care she seemed like she has a hard rule about no sex on the first date and was pushing me for the next day.

She had hinted she wants sunglasses and generally prefers gifts to allowance. And so I broke the cardinal rule and took her shopping for an expensive pair. We went in my car and on getting in she leans over for a kiss. And it's a great kiss. Sloppy tongue tangling DFK. Nice.

Shopping was great fun and she was very touchy and affectionate. We found a pair of Ray Bans she liked and they look great on her. $270! But I figure if I can wrangle her into the bed it will be worth it. She promised we will have a hotel date tomorrow. But she could still be sharking me.

On the way back to drop her I have to pee so bad. And the condo Shayla just vacated is just down the street so I say I have to pee and why doesn't she come in. I drop a monster pee and come back to the living room and boom we are suddenly kissing again. And deep and passionate.

She has a work call in 15 minutes so we know it's not going down but we def sample the goods. I am feeling her ass and then start on her tits. They are massive and wonderful on her tiny frame. At some point I put her hand on my dick and she likes this. The kissing is amazing.

Eventually she breaks the lip lock saying she has her meeting. But then she backs up against me and puts her hand on my dick again and kinda leans over the island and throws her head back to kiss me. It's very sexy like doggie but with clothes on.

Eventually the spell is broken and I drop her off at her place. We are in contact about tomorrow but so far a little non comittal. Hope I haven't been played because damn I'm in love! Totally smitten. My dream girl. Wow.

Day 2:

So clearly I've outlayed my $270 and hope for a return on investment. But I get a text that says she's doing nanny for the kids at 3 and can't meet. I'm pressing her for precise schedule but not getting much love. We are texting back and forth and honestly she's a bit of a hot mess like saying maybe 1. Or maybe after 11 Pm etc.

I realize I'm being too thirsty trying to get her out so soon again (tho she did say we would meet today) and I'm fucking Lilly on Wednesday and so I back off and say she's clearly too busy. Let's meet in two weeks. And she's like OMG that's so long. Let's meet today! LOL. Having an abundance mindset totally works.

We finally agree a 6 Pm meetup and it's on. She says she has to be home by 7:30 so I am anxious to get this party started. We don't bother with dinner pretext and just take some Paloma's in cans to the condo.

It all starts pretty slow just chatting and drinking. Fuck she can talk your ear off! But I listen patiently because I know there's a payoff and it involves getting my dick wet!

Eventually we move to the bed and she drones on but I am lightly stroking her leg pretty near her pussy. I am keeping an eye on time but at about 6:30 she chugs here drink and rolls to her back on the bed and pulls me on top of her. Ok it's on!

We are in various stages of undress and I get to see the rack she'the sent me a pic of. Wowzers. Like DCups on a tiny frame. Super nice. She wants to get my undies off and does and I straddle her chest and she takes me in her mouth. She's not much of a BJ girl boo but we do some super nice slow mouth fucking for a little bit. But then she says "I want you to fuck me!" And who am I to deny her that pleasure!

I get into place and she starts pulling me inside here bareback! I'm about halfway in when she says "you're clean right?" Hahaha a little late to have that convo now! But yeah I am and I go balls deep.

We fuck a long time in mish. Turns out her pussy feels great in all three primary positions which is rare. So I'm going to forgive the light BJ. After mish we do my fave the Steve. Man I am pounding her good in that position. She loves it and cranes her neck so she can watch my rock hard dick impale her petite body. Hot as fuck.

Swap to doggie at edge of bed. She feels great I'm this position and of course nice view. I reach around and feel her spectacular tits. We must have fucked for at least 20 minutes this way when I suggest we change to cowgirl.

She's got good energy and fucks in Asian cowgirl for an amazingly long time. She is definitely getting off and I just smile and let her use me as her boy toy. I don't think she's fucked anyone that goes as long as me before. Because we just continue on and on, esp without the BJ. More Steve. More mish.

At some point I think I have to get her to BJ to finish me. But she says she doesn't like to taste herself. So I go wash up and position for some submissive BJ, me on my knees reared up and her on her knees cock in mouth. It's a little light to be honest and I hope we can improve here.

Honestly I think she's a bit tired of fucking at this point and we will have to watch this going forward because she picks up her phone and says her boyfriend is blowing up her phone and she hasto leave! Wtf? Prob BS and I am a bit disappointed. This is at the 40 minutes of sex mark. It must show on my face because she says "what" and I say well I want to finish.

She says "can you finish in ten minutes" and I say sure! So now we have to go to the patented Steve finish. I get a towel and position at edge of bed and tell her I want her to suck my balls. She's pretty tentative. You can tell she doesn't usually do this. But she gets one ball in her mouth and starts sucking while I Jack off slowly. Oooooo that feels so good.

I think about directing her to the other ball but it was a minor coup to get the ball sucking at all so I let her suck on. I am growing hard as a brick and feeling the build. At the very last second I kinda push her out of the way but only partial success. I shoot out a nice rope (long shot for me) and it hits her partially on the shoulder and the rest on the towel.

Again I don't think she rolls this way very much like her boyfriend just fucks her because she's like "damn that was super sexy. " And gives me amazing doe eyes and a kiss.

We clean up and have a final kiss as I drop some $$ in her bag. And I drive her home to her boyfriend having fucked the living shit out of her. LOL.

In summary she's a bit mercenary but not too expensive and her BJ is lame. But she fucks like a racehorse and is hot as fuck. And that is a rare gem in my neck of the woods! So let's keep it rolling and see where we go from here!

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Here's how it went down with my second bareback Mexicana goddess in the last month! LOL. Snip.Interesting, but why is this in the Rio thread?

[Steve 9696]

Interesting, but why is this in the Rio thread?Damn. Was supposed to go in the Seeking thread. Sorry about that. Well maybe someone enjoyed it. And if you ever get in the Seeking game I am your wingman!

[Tochka]

Only in Brazil.

It's Mother's Day and a Sunday. Damn difficult to arrange a time with garotas because they are with families throughout the day. Bummed out, until I wassaped a nineteen-year-old, very light skin, green eyes beauty from Dudas. We had a boring routine session earlier in the week. She is a so-so performer in bed. She responded with interest in meeting on Sunday night, to give a chance to perform better. Fine. I can at least face FK her young ass, and watch her tongue swallow the leche.

She sent a few photos during the family cookout. One chica stood out as a fine-ass green-eyed, caramel creamy body in a bikini. Asked about her friend's name. She said it was her mother, she has excellent genes.

She said they were enjoying time together smoking ganja. Well ok. Next message was from her mother. Really! Wow a hottie, yeah her mother is a maturr GDP taking new clients. That her best service doing incredible deepthroat with swallowing. Dayum, both the dick and brain are racing with combo possibilities straight out of the penthouse forum.

Her mother calls me up on WhatsApp. She sends some f-king outstanding BJ photos.

Ok, I am hooked to try out mother-daughter in different sessions. She will come by Uber Moto for a session later tonight. The daughter is Uber car on the way to Panda Hotel now. The closest I ever came to this combo was in the DR. But couldn't quite pull it off after months of trying. The DR cuties still to this day remain interested in giving it a try sometime. In Brazil, this happening quickly, off the bat. What a country. This has been a mind-blowing Mother's Day on a Sunday. YMMV. This is my experience of rolling with life. Roll with yours.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Damn. Was supposed to go in the Seeking thread. Sorry about that. Well maybe someone enjoyed it. And if you ever get in the Seeking game I am your wingman!Very nice of you. Thanks.

[CCRider1008]

This time in Rio, the first night in Casablanca, I took a girl without proper interview and everything was mediocre and not interesting. The second night I found the gem: 18 years, very beautiful, second visit in her life to Casablanca. Big success we met the evening after as well.

It was fun and a bit embarrassing to see the face of the guy in reception when he checked in the 24 year old girlfriend of the 80-year old!Keep up good work. Age is a number; as long as you can get your hooks in and stay focused you're never out of a fight. Besides the University (not an option for st tourist) where are you meeting the 18 year old in RIO?

[Tochka]

Hey you horn dogs with a similar bucket list. Nope Can't help ya fellas out.

What happened was one in a thousand event. The timing just lined up, on mothers day. I was not seeking the combo at all. I randomly asked the garota about the cute girlfriend in her photos. The mom-and-daughter deal was a random opportunity. I didn't ask for it or plan in advance to make it happen. Plus the two chicas could always lie about the relationship.

Unfortunately they were clear, it's not going to happen again. It's not a garota special service offered. They Don't want people to know they shared the same dude me. Sounds like one of those stupid Jerry Springer shows. Where Mom and daughter deepthroat leche the same guy. Haha.

It was kind of weird to get wassap message from the daughter about taking care of mame. How mamita enjoyed swallowing leche. Mae enjoyed this and that.

I guess Brazilian garotas have a bucket list too!

[KindAn]

Hey you horn dogs with a similar bucket list. Nope Can't help ya fellas out.

What happened was one in a thousand event. The timing just lined up, on mothers day. I was not seeking the combo at all. I randomly asked the garota about the cute girlfriend in her photos. The mom-and-daughter deal was a random opportunity. I didn't ask for it or plan in advance to make it happen. Plus the two chicas could always lie about the relationship.

Unfortunately they were clear, it's not going to happen again. It's not a garota special service offered. They Don't want people to know they shared the same dude me. Sounds like one of those stupid Jerry Springer shows. Where Mom and daughter deepthroat leche the same guy. Haha.

It was kind of weird to get wassap message from the daughter about taking care of mame. How mamita enjoyed swallowing leche. Mae enjoyed this and that.

I guess Brazilian garotas have a bucket list too!Lmfao this made me laugh. Congrats.

[KindAn]

Something I noticed, the girls in Brazilian spa's were almost exclusively not comfortable with being filmed (thing of mine) while in Colombia particularly the Santa Fe / Veracruz areas it was a totally different story. To be fair, there were more vennies there, but is this something I can rectify by going somewhere more specific?

[FilthyBeaver]

I'm planning a trip to monger. There's enough info here to keep me more or less busy in the evenings but I'm wondering what the more experienced members recommend for a first trip. I can't go multiple times a night and I can't go more than 3 or 4 nights in a row until the mongering even gets old. Aside from maybe Senna's grave and museum I can't think of a single thing I want to do there aside f4 om eat. Based on Steve's reports alone SP ended up on my bucket list but how long is enough? Are any weeknights actually dead in the clubs or does it not matter?

[Explorer69]

Keep up good work. Age is a number; as long as you can get your hooks in and stay focused you're never out of a fight. Besides the University (not an option for st tourist) where are you meeting the 18 year old in RIO?I met her in Casablanca. It was her 2nd night there!

[Turgid]

Something I noticed, the girls in Brazilian spa's were almost exclusively not comfortable with being filmed (thing of mine) while in Colombia particularly the Santa Fe / Veracruz areas it was a totally different story. To be fair, there were more vennies there, but is this something I can rectify by going somewhere more specific?I suspect you want their faces in. I have photographed lots of garotas but they don't want their faces taken.

[Sperto]

Aside from maybe Senna's grave and museum I can't think of a single thing I want to do there aside f4 om eat.I didn't know they had moved Ayrton Sennas grave to Rio de Janeiro.

[Tochka]

The crappy short-term motel Eden suckz, Love Time near Gloria metro, also sukz. Don't know why garotas recommended to meet there.

The date at the Shell Station gas station across the street from Panda Motel was better than expected.

At Termas Monte Carlos I met a very tall Amazon light skin, Carmel green-eyed, nineteen-year-old beauty. We went to Hotel Panda after Monte Carlos closed at 1 am. We agreed to are $500 for an hour of everything goes. She loves sex toys, lesbian pussy licking, lickety splits, doing elevador dick licking. Two or three hours of fun later Ib realized, not enough cash money to pay for the fun frocklin time. No pix either. There is a 24 x7 Shell Station across the street from the Hotel Panda. It's on Rua Sao Clemente, 307 - Botafogo. A 30-second walk from the hotel. The Shell station has a 24 x7 Banco ATM. We left Panda. I charged the room to my credit card. Walked hand in hand for 30 seconds to the Shell gas station coffee and deli shop to the Branco 24 x7 ATMwithdraw funds. We sat down to share a coffee cappuccino, chips, and pesto grilled sandwich. We talked for the next hour and half like a date, in the Gas station. She is looking for a sugar daddy.

Another late-night ATM is the pharmacy.

Dona Farma Copacabana.

Av. Atlntica, 2364 Copacabana. It is a 1-minute walk, around the corner from Termas Monte Carlo. The pharmacy is open 24 x7 with a 24 x7 Banco ATM machine.

I mentioned two or three places if you need to do a fast late-night early morning ATM run. The third place I like is On the 2nd floor of Bossa Nova mall at SDU airport the 24 x7 Banco ATMs. Until 10 pm. Those were my late-night options for ATM runs. Otherwise, the stupid Bradesco banc opens at 10 am, closes early on Friday, and closes on weekends. Those are the places where my card consistently worked if the ATM has money.

[FilthyBeaver]

Locations are interchangeable in my mind other than one has scandallo and the other doesn't.


I didn't know they had moved Ayrton Sennas grave to Rio de Janeiro.

[Sperto]

I mentioned two or three places if you need to do a fast late-night early morning ATM run. The third place I like is On the 2nd floor of Bossa Nova mall at SDU airport the 24 x7 Banco ATMs. Until 10 pm. Those were my late-night options for ATM runs. Otherwise, the stupid Bradesco banc opens at 10 am, closes early on Friday, and closes on weekends.With the "stupid Bradesco" you get a better rate and don't have to pay an extra 24 reais fee. Banco 24 hours are the ATMs which should be avoided. Just plan ahead and make a withdrawal at Bradesco during daytime.

[Vagabundo1]

Vagabundo knows that shell across from panda well, having fuked lot in panda and santa marta and environs, to include rua sao clemente 114, verandas, the love shack from 2015.

Date is a great thing, walking around the hood with girl, but.

It depends on the date.

Like a real euro surfer chick exchange student blond who expects the cleaning lady (washed up hoar) to clean her shit from the toilet bowl out of her blond ass or the hoar?

That is the question.

Because once you have the real euro surfer chick exchange student from Finland, you go back to the hoars changed.

Then you disdain the hoars even as they spread their legs for 50 USD raw for 34 minutes of fucking, and the whole time you are rutting in the pussy raw of amber lynn on the 21st floor cuberto, you are wondering about the real euro surfer swimmer blond and when you will talk with her again on a boat party in gloria harbor or in your apartment in recreio.

Because the hoar is just an illusion, a terapia, a salve, a bandage, a cast plastered onto a broken soul wound to replace a life that if you were not born into pussy prison should have had might have had might still have?

But sometimes, the best you can do is to keep taking the terapia, finding that bunda in a hoar house, showing that test, giving that tip, and sliding it in.


The crappy short-term motel Eden suckz, Love Time near Gloria metro, also sukz. Don't know why garotas recommended to meet there.

The date at the Shell Station gas station across the street from Panda Motel was better than expected.

At Termas Monte Carlos I met a very tall Amazon light skin, Carmel green-eyed, nineteen-year-old beauty. We went to Hotel Panda after Monte Carlos closed at 1 am. We agreed to are $500 for an hour of everything goes. She loves sex toys, lesbian pussy licking, lickety splits, doing elevador dick licking. Two or three hours of fun later Ib realized, not enough cash money to pay for the fun frocklin time. No pix either. There is a 24 x7 Shell Station across the street from the Hotel Panda. It's on Rua Sao Clemente, 307 - Botafogo. A 30-second walk from the hotel. The Shell station has a 24 x7 Banco ATM. We left Panda. I charged the room to my credit card. Walked hand in hand for 30 seconds to the Shell gas station coffee and deli shop to the Branco 24 x7 ATMwithdraw funds. We sat down to share a coffee cappuccino, chips, and pesto grilled sandwich. We talked for the next hour and half like a date, in the Gas station. She is looking for a sugar daddy.

Another late-night ATM is the pharmacy.

Dona Farma Copacabana.

Av. Atlntica, 2364 Copacabana. It is a 1-minute walk, around the corner from Termas Monte Carlo. The pharmacy is open 24 x7 with a 24 x7 Banco ATM machine.

I mentioned two or three places if you need to do a fast late-night early morning ATM run. The third place I like is On the 2nd floor of Bossa Nova mall at SDU airport the 24 x7 Banco ATMs. Until 10 pm. Those were my late-night options for ATM runs. Otherwise, the stupid Bradesco banc opens at 10 am, closes early on Friday, and closes on weekends. Those are the places where my card consistently worked if the ATM has money.

[Tochka]

Vagabundo knows that shell across from panda well, having fuked lot in panda and santa marta and environs, to include rua sao clemente 114, verandas, the love shack from 2015.

Date is a great thing, walking around the hood with girl, but.

It depends on the date.

Like a real euro surfer chick exchange student blond who expects the cleaning lady (washed up hoar) to clean her shit from the toilet bowl out of her blond ass or the hoar?

That is the question.

Because once you have the real euro surfer chick exchange student from Finland, you go back to the hoars changed.

Then you disdain the hoars even as they spread their legs for 50 USD raw for 34 minutes of fucking, and the whole time you are rutting in the pussy raw of amber lynn on the 21st floor cuberto, you are wondering about the real euro surfer swimmer blond and when you will talk with her again on a boat party in gloria harbor or in your apartment in recreio.

Because the hoar is just an illusion, a terapia, a salve, a bandage, a cast plastered onto a broken soul wound to replace a life that if you were not born into pussy prison should have had might have had might still have?

But sometimes, the best you can do is to keep taking the terapia, finding that bunda in a hoar house, showing that test, giving that tip, and sliding it in.I applaud your conquest of beauty from Finland. They are natural blonds top and bottom.

True to my nature I prefer the natural curves and bundas of Brazilians.

Hell, when the NFL game happens this fall in Sao Paulo expect to see Brazilian-American NFL players in 20 twenty years, trying out for the NFL. I'm going to do my part!

Wonder if the Prives, Termas, massages, and Scandallo pricing going to run up to NFL pricing and bring in top garotas. Like F1.

[Tochka]

With the "stupid Bradesco" you get a better rate and don't have to pay an extra 24 reais fee. Banco 24 hours are the ATMs which should be avoided. Just plan ahead and make a withdrawal at Bradesco during daytime.Thanks for sharing your advice. I didn't ask about planning ahead (shrug) or the adneasum conversation about bank rates, schwab card, etc. I'm finnin to get some head from a beauty branca Amazoanas and need cash to seal the deal. Hhaha.

Only sharing my experience, While standing in twelve person deep line at Bradesco bank in Centro because only two out of eight machines ATM machines actually works, or 15 person deep Bradesco ATM in Copa for the same reason. Still stupid Bradesco bank for no ATM on weekends or outside of banking hours. YMMV your experience will vary from mine.

[Vagabundo1]

I agree with this.


With the "stupid Bradesco" you get a better rate and don't have to pay an extra 24 reais fee. Banco 24 hours are the ATMs which should be avoided. Just plan ahead and make a withdrawal at Bradesco during daytime.

[Tochka]

Dante Inferno Circle Two. Lust and gluttony.

Another night of Brazilian debauchery. Feels like part of Dante's inferno circle of lust and gluttony at Termas Monte Carlo. Whatever plans and budget are started, the night ends way differently than expected. Arrived early to find my lustful Scandallo Garota and her girlfriend waiting for me. I gave them an inexpensive gift box of hot red luv chocolates, and edible chocolate roses. A bright red gift bag presented in front of all the garottes to show she is my bottom be*tch putaria no complexhahaha.

I was unaware she was turned on, ready to go with her toys and gifts too.

She finds her favorite twenty-year-old half-Japanese garota to lick, and off we go to the room.

We order a round of drinks, bubbly, whiskey and nine towels for each Dante circle.

Soon as the door closes, The twenty-year cutie drops to her knees and starts slobbering away deep throat, all the way to the base. She grabs with two hands balls and dick to swallow both together deep down her throat. What a sight to see the dick bulge in her throat. The sweet song of throat bang -bang bulge-bulge. While she repeatedly impales her throat on the dick bulge, my scandallo chica pulls out from her bag, a bright silver, spiked dog collar. That shit is shiny silver. I heard a sound ThwaaapShe slaps the dog collar around the little neck of the young garota thwaap!

I feel the sensation of the dog collar around her throat while her mouth is pounding away deepthroating. . She is collared and ours to do with for pleasure in the circles of sex debauchery. That young garota squealed with delight to be collared, never saw such a delightful smile on her face.

Uh-oh the scandallo garota brings out More toys, female vibrators, sex contraptions for garotas to squirt. She got stuff I never heard of made for chicas, had to take a few photos to remember it all, clitoris suckers, magic rings, Thai balls pimienta, deepthroat spray multi Profunda, intt magic egg vibrators, intt brand garganta sprays, double clit stimulator for garotas to squirt together. G-spot squirter, liquid vibrator, remote pussy vibrator to buzz her pussy when she is sitting in monte carlo o solarium. I damn gave up trying to figure out all of the sex toys, vibrators, masks, marbles, lubricants, edible panties both in chocolate and strawberries.

The flexibility of the young garota, doing a backward 69 so they could both lick and taste the edible panties together. Three types of weird sex collars for garotas.

That putera had every kinky perverted sex toys in her bag of tricks. She must be a reseller for sex toys. Lickable tattoos stickers placed below the belly button it says bon appetite, haha.

A double ended Vagifit for pompoarism.

Yeah she had to explain that one. Ok got it.

We went through eleven towels, sopping wet with garotas squirt, leche, saliva. Love it when garotas are really into each other.

After two and half hours we took a small break to order iFood in room. A couple of bento boxes of delicious Japanese sashimi, yakissoba, and yakitori.

A satisfying quick meal, now back to two or three hours of doing whatever the fking garotas imagine, cause they were on wild sex mind-bending session. Think I broke a tooth, dislocated a thumb, sprained an ankle and tore an ACL with these two wild ass young garotas. This was better than the mother-daughter session on mother's day.

In the end, she opened an app on her phone called at privacy. I only know onlyfans. They both had private porno videos on at privacy with three and four-way Brazilian orgies.

Wow, that sexy twenty-year-old half Japanese university student is a real amateur porno pro, she showed me her videos doing double anal, with a wicked smile on her face. She has a porno channel like Ariella Ferraz. I am a damn amateur in their Brazilian sex world. She doing eyes wide shut scenes, with masks, collars, unimaginable sex toys. Nope, sorry fellas not sharing their porno names or channels.

Though I'm finnin to repeat a session tonite. Vagabundo right about university garotas students.

She has more wild plans in store for tonight and we going to Letom love motel.

[Bravo]

Dante Inferno Circle Two. Lust and gluttony.


A satisfying quick meal, now back to two or three hours of doing whatever the fking garotas imagine, cause they were on wild sex mind-bending session. Think I broke a tooth, dislocated a thumb, sprained an ankle and tore an ACL with these two wild ass young garotas. This was better than the mother-daughter session on mother's day.

I.Damn dude! Were you fucking or having a WWF WrestleMania match for the championship? On a side note, I have had 4 Japanese girls in Brasil over the years and all 4 of them were fucking excellent in bed!! (If only they had more bunda!

[Vagabundo1]

The university girls show up on time.

The list of things I hate about brazilians is a long one that starts with.

1. They are always late.

2. They have no money.

3. Their weed is poisoned.

4. They complain about stress, see all of the above.

5. They're stupid don't know about the world and are ignorant.

6. They only talk when they are asking for money.


Dante Inferno Circle Two. Lust and gluttony.

Another night of Brazilian debauchery. Feels like part of Dante's inferno circle of lust and gluttony at Termas Monte Carlo. Whatever plans and budget are started, the night ends way differently than expected. Arrived early to find my lustful Scandallo Garota and her girlfriend waiting for me. I gave them an inexpensive gift box of hot red luv chocolates, and edible chocolate roses. A bright red gift bag presented in front of all the garottes to show she is my bottom be*tch putaria no complexhahaha.

I was unaware she was turned on, ready to go with her toys and gifts too.

She finds her favorite twenty-year-old half-Japanese garota to lick, and off we go to the room.

We order a round of drinks, bubbly, whiskey and nine towels for each Dante circle.

Soon as the door closes, The twenty-year cutie drops to her knees and starts slobbering away deep throat, all the way to the base. She grabs with two hands balls and dick to swallow both together deep down her throat. What a sight to see the dick bulge in her throat. The sweet song of throat bang -bang bulge-bulge. While she repeatedly impales her throat on the dick bulge, my scandallo chica pulls out from her bag, a bright silver, spiked dog collar. That shit is shiny silver. I heard a sound ThwaaapShe slaps the dog collar around the little neck of the young garota thwaap!

I feel the sensation of the dog collar around her throat while her mouth is pounding away deepthroating. . She is collared and ours to do with for pleasure in the circles of sex debauchery. That young garota squealed with delight to be collared, never saw such a delightful smile on her face.

Uh-oh the scandallo garota brings out More toys, female vibrators, sex contraptions for garotas to squirt. She got stuff I never heard of made for chicas, had to take a few photos to remember it all, clitoris suckers, magic rings, Thai balls pimienta, deepthroat spray multi Profunda, intt magic egg vibrators, intt brand garganta sprays, double clit stimulator for garotas to squirt together. G-spot squirter, liquid vibrator, remote pussy vibrator to buzz her pussy when she is sitting in monte carlo o solarium. I damn gave up trying to figure out all of the sex toys, vibrators, masks, marbles, lubricants, edible panties both in chocolate and strawberries.

The flexibility of the young garota, doing a backward 69 so they could both lick and taste the edible panties together. Three types of weird sex collars for garotas.

That putera had every kinky perverted sex toys in her bag of tricks. She must be a reseller for sex toys. Lickable tattoos stickers placed below the belly button it says bon appetite, haha.

A double ended Vagifit for pompoarism.

Yeah she had to explain that one. Ok got it.

We went through eleven towels, sopping wet with garotas squirt, leche, saliva. Love it when garotas are really into each other.

After two and half hours we took a small break to order iFood in room. A couple of bento boxes of delicious Japanese sashimi, yakissoba, and yakitori.

A satisfying quick meal, now back to two or three hours of doing whatever the fking garotas imagine, cause they were on wild sex mind-bending session. Think I broke a tooth, dislocated a thumb, sprained an ankle and tore an ACL with these two wild ass young garotas. This was better than the mother-daughter session on mother's day.

In the end, she opened an app on her phone called at privacy. I only know onlyfans. They both had private porno videos on at privacy with three and four-way Brazilian orgies.

Wow, that sexy twenty-year-old half Japanese university student is a real amateur porno pro, she showed me her videos doing double anal, with a wicked smile on her face. She has a porno channel like Ariella Ferraz. I am a damn amateur in their Brazilian sex world. She doing eyes wide shut scenes, with masks, collars, unimaginable sex toys. Nope, sorry fellas not sharing their porno names or channels.

Though I'm finnin to repeat a session tonite. Vagabundo right about university garotas students.

She has more wild plans in store for tonight and we going to Letom love motel.

[Rio Bob]

I'm planning a trip to monger. There's enough info here to keep me more or less busy in the evenings but I'm wondering what the more experienced members recommend for a first trip. I can't go multiple times a night and I can't go more than 3 or 4 nights in a row until the mongering even gets old. Aside from maybe Senna's grave and museum I can't think of a single thing I want to do there aside f4 om eat. Based on Steve's reports alone SP ended up on my bucket list but how long is enough? Are any weeknights actually dead in the clubs or does it not matter?It doesn't matter Rio or SP but I feel your pain. I usually arrive on a Wednesday or Thursday and party all the way to Sunday and stop for a few days. But I've partied hard, drinking very late 2 girls at a time etc, living the life then I might go to Buzios for a couple of days and just rest at a nice beach, come back Wednesday or Thursday and start over again till I drop. If you have limited time then it takes 11 or 12 days and then I'm good. But if I was you I’d go to Rio instead of SP so at least you’d have the beach to fill your time.

[Tochka]

Darkroom.

Walked 9 minutes from the airbnb in Centro to visit Darkroom early afternoon. There is a friendly barbershop opposite Edificio Patrimnio to get a decent shapeup and fade.

Thanks to Vagabundo and Complete Idiot's Guide to Copacabana for easy finding Darkroom penthouse. Forgot about the stairs.

There are lots of young Negra beauties, offering all holes and anal. I did a simple duplo BJ one-hour session, then bounced to Dudas for the variety. I forgot not to take off the shoes in the Darkroom.

I have been there four times. Every single time, some random garotas, jumps into my shoes, puts on my jacket, and goes clogging around Darkroom giggling while the other garotas laugh at her.

Any anyone else experienced this? This happened four different times which is a bit much. Maybe some Darkroom ritual. (shrug) no clue about interest in wearing men's shoes.

I had another kinky proposition from the mother-daughter combo. We spent a couple of hours in Letom Motel, Suite Eros. The daughter said her Aunt and sister wanted a turn to make money and do a fantasy too. The mom told her sister, how much fun we had. That piqued the Aunt's interest. The 19-year-old daughter said her 23-year-old sister studying psychology at Universidade do Estado do Rio de Janeiro, wanted a session right away. She sent a wasp photo of her sister standing in a coffee line at the university.

Never thought things could get that wild in Brazil. That shit was never on my bucket list, mother, daughter, aunt, and sister. They all look exactly like different ages of Daenerys Stormborn and Princess Rhaenys Targaryen games of Thrones. Four short cute-as-a-button blonde brancas. We watched two shows together, season 1 GoT, and Netflix Confessions of a Brazilian Call Girl. The next day they went to the salon to color their hair even more.

Yet again, I am the amateur in the depths of the Brazilian sex world. I had no f-king clue how open the women in this family shared about their sex lives, and very open about sharing their sex conquests about the same guyme.

I didn't believe it, thought this was a stripper shit setup or none of them is related. Although I did have the family photos from Mother's Day last week.

Sign me up for psych counseling classes, because the Brazilian Illusion of Passion (IoP) runs in the family and was never, ever on my bucket list. Their enthusiasm and openness to Banging the same guy me. YMMV your mileage may vary, and your experience is different from mine. But seeing and experiencing mother, daughter, sister, and aunt doing their own private porno videos on the at private platform is mind-blowing, more power to them, monetize that money maker.

[Vagabundo1]

I have gotten sick and tired of not just cariocas but brazilins.

I've started a list.

1. no money.

2. bad weed.

3. only time they talk is to ask for money.

4. always late.

5. never on time.

6. total selfish time wasters.

7. don't speak english.

8. don't even speak portoguese. They speak this rio gibberish short hand, which I speak too, but which is shit. Just once, it only takes once, vagabundo goes out with a blond, euro girl who doesn't have goddammed instagram but has a real curriculo who shows up on time who has her own money even though I pay, who gives a legit kiss and some tits, and that is that, leave all the carioca dogs to the dogs and figure it out, there are decent women out there, not just the shit that the braziians use to scratch the itch. Hookers use them as maids to take out the trash, empty your balls, and forget them.

[Tochka]

Damn dude! Were you fucking or having a WWF WrestleMania match for the championship? On a side note, I have had 4 Japanese girls in Brasil over the years and all 4 of them were fucking excellent in bed!! (If only they had more bunda!Yeah, not huge bundas on half-Japanese garotas. I have four Japanese garotas in rotation. Two from Scandallo, we go To Lush sex motel nearby. The other two are in Rio, former Monte Carlo, and Solario.

Now they only do wassap date sessions. The garotas tell me they are doing this more and more to meet clients. For Japanese garotas I prefer to use her other end. Her exotic face is a dick face fuck and ball licks.

She mastered the technique of looking up with pleasing almond green eyes, continuous exotic eye contact, unbroken no shying away while making deepthroat slurping sounds. I know those are colored contacts lens help the IoP. She has a nineteen-year-old slim, curvey Japanese bunda in the air, heads down, eyes up sucking away.

My Japanese Garota has her best go-to move the threesome "elevador".

Saliva dick licking with a Mulutta Meghan Markle, blonde Branca, and half Japanese going up and down the dick elevator at the same time. United colors of Benetton Brasil!

Sometimes she will gently hold the heads up, mouths open of the other two garotas.

They catch every bit of leche spurt. Nothing is left over, no spilled leche. If it rolls down the dick, she is the first to lap up and spit it on the tongue of the mulatta first. Then up its goes to the blonde branca, then back down on the tongue of My Japanese garota. She always starts the snowballing Leche first. I don't know how or when nineteen year old garotas learn to do the cum swap elevadorn (shrug) Dripping the cum leche onto the tongues of the mulutta and Branca, reminds me.

I forgot the spit or swallow convo doesn't come up with the half Japanese Garota servicing me. It always swallows. Every time.

[Vagabundo1]

Nina Deponca is cleaning.

I have also fucked her ass twice.

I listen to Russia music, though the Russian is not dating me, but for 20 usd, to listen to her sign to her sing the following, is worth it for me. Meanwhile I have been dating a finnish student, but with the age difference, I probably have little chance, but my game is going to improve as I will do swimming and yoga and less muay thai. Rich old dirty volunteer professor paying 23 year old hip hop genius supermodels to teach me ganja kazakstan heavy base lyrics, she doesn't care, might even be my friend, which is not at all a bad thought.

Lyrics of the song "I Got Love" ft. Rem Digga.

Intro: Miyagi & Endgame.

I got love, I.

I got love, I.

And-and-and, and.

Verse 1: Endgame.

Enveloped me, enveloped me.

It's like you're my kind of marijuana.

The sky is in diamonds, summer has flown.

You are my baby. Daughter of the carnival.

Move it baby, prom princess.

Night of change, thoughts of a Rastafarian.

Until I got tired the music played.

Someone smoked, someone was stuck.

This fool Duremara, she is for us.

I thought I was flying to warmer climes.

Summer, sea, sand, but I can't get enough of you.

I dance to the floor, hands to the ceiling of the hall.

From where I fell I will never return.

Miraculously, he got away and took away the sadness with her.

This is our life and it's never enough.

I dance to the floor, hands to the ceiling of the hall.

Go, everybody, shake your ass, go.

Move, everybody is my favorite show.

Head shook, bachata gave mannama.

Roundup of idiots, piles of profits.

Give us plenty of butora.

When this day comes, sing to yourself.

About me, for love, for mom, for brother.

And fate will bend ata-ata.

A-ta-man, I'm like a-ta-man.

In a hot tango, a music lover, I am ruled by a badman.

Dance! So primitive.

Dance! So impulsive.

Dance! Daughter of the Carnival.

There were few of you on the dance floor, few.

You might also like.

Narrative.

Miyagi & Endspiel.

My Home.

Max Korzh.

Saloon.

Miyagi & Endspiel.

Chorus: Miyagi.

I got love, I feel, I got you on my mind.

I got love, my skill, my la-la, la-la-life.

I got love, I feel, I got you on my mind.

I got love, my skill, my la-la, la-la-life.

Verse 2: Miyagi.

Jah, Jah, Jah Bless! We'll hang the windows.

Buden again princess and despot.

Laurels can't take your ardor, we're playing tricks.

And we'll break loose together over the years.

Uh-uh, ah-ah!

Uh-uh, ah-ah!

Uh-uh, ah-ah!

Uh-uh, ah-ah!

Fly around the planets in an instant.

Then the rain drums. Melancholy and sadness.

But you illuminated freedom with the light of goodness.

Did you move your hips while dancing?

Mmm, you are my rumba, you are my samba.

You are my salsa, you are my tango.

Pile up the smoke, chat volume.

Fly with me in these arms.

Fly with me, fly with me.

Fly with me, fly with me.

Pile up the smoke, chat volume.

Fly with me in these arms.

Fly with me, fly with me.

Fly with me, fly with me.

Pile up the smoke, chat volume.

Fly with me in these arms.

Chorus: Miyagi.

I got love, I feel, I got you on my mind.

I got love, my skill, my la-la, la-la-life.

I got love, I feel, I got you on my mind.

I got love, my skill, my la-la, la-la-life.

Verse 3: Rem Digga.

It's just a game, maybe, probably.

Even your nakedness.

Woah baby, I don't believe it!

Fall into my arms, my beauty.

You and I are without a guide, that's how it should be.

Your soul touched my soul, dear, lambada.

To twist the booty, there is a beat, don't feel sorry for the sub.

I'm on fire with you, like a bastard in pubs, give me some heat!

I'm ready to issue a letter to all of you.

Who knows how to make noise. Make some noise.

It's hot until the morning, the crowd is in a frenzy.

But I look, you see, only at you, do you believe, ma? (Ma?

And when the club starts nodding off in the morning.

I'll steal you like Azor's rose.

I will smile in silence and say simply:

"Come to me, sun, unbraid your hair".

Bridge: Rem Digga & Miyagi.

Uh-uh, ah-ah!

Unravel your braids.

Uh-uh, ah-ah!

Unravel your braids.

Uh-uh, ah-ah!

Come to me, sun, unbraid your hair.

Uh-uh, ah-ah!

Unravel your braids.


I have gotten sick and tired of not just cariocas but brazilins.

I've started a list.

1. no money.

2. bad weed.

3. only time they talk is to ask for money.

4. always late.

5. never on time.

6. total selfish time wasters.

7. don't speak english.

8. don't even speak portoguese. They speak this rio gibberish short hand, which I speak too, but which is shit. Just once, it only takes once, vagabundo goes out with a blond, euro girl who doesn't have goddammed instagram but has a real curriculo who shows up on time who has her own money even though I pay, who gives a legit kiss and some tits, and that is that, leave all the carioca dogs to the dogs and figure it out, there are decent women out there, not just the shit that the braziians use to scratch the itch. Hookers use them as maids to take out the trash, empty your balls, and forget them.

[Vagabundo1]

I had nina deponca over 3 pops bbfsci cuzinha.

She cleaned.

I paid her 300 + 50 passage.

She said she had a boyfriend, but I guess that didn't prevent her from fucking, which is good.

I mean, what else. Not much, the world seems to be falling apart, but here in rio vagabundo is learning russian from ganja kazakstan music. So it goes.

[Turgid]

Nina Deponca is cleaning.

I have also fucked her ass twice.

I listen to Russia music, though the Russian is not dating me, but for 20 usd, to listen to her sign to her sing the following, is worth it for me. Meanwhile I have been dating a finnish student, but with the age difference, I probably have little chance, but my game is going to improve as I will do swimming and yoga and less muay thai. Rich old dirty volunteer professor paying 23 year old hip hop genius supermodels to teach me ganja kazakstan heavy base lyrics, she doesn't care, might even be my friend, which is not at all a bad thought.

Lyrics of the song "I Got Love" ft. Rem Digga.......You are in love with Nina?

[Vagabundo1]

Vagabundo loves no one.

Today had 40 minutes straight fucking in a hotel with Amber Lynn.

Then over to darkroom for 30 minutes of covered fucking with Laura.

All of which was good.

Vagabundo gets legit game with 21 year old college girls.

The hoars though are fun sport fucking.


You are in love with Nina?

[Vagabundo1]

https://youtu.be/nidQCt_HEsY?si=MHbikwceIp9pOuCn

This Russian music is the bomb.


You are in love with Nina?

[Vagabundo1]

https://youtu.be/nidQCt_HEsY?si=MHbikwceIp9pOuCn


Nina Deponca is cleaning.

I have also fucked her ass twice.

I listen to Russia music, though the Russian is not dating me, but for 20 usd, to listen to her sign to her sing the following, is worth it for me. Meanwhile I have been dating a finnish student, but with the age difference, I probably have little chance, but my game is going to improve as I will do swimming and yoga and less muay thai. Rich old dirty volunteer professor paying 23 year old hip hop genius supermodels to teach me ganja kazakstan heavy base lyrics, she doesn't care, might even be my friend, which is not at all a bad thought..

[World Travel 69]

Your Mail box is full.

You want the Map.

[Turgid]

https://youtu.be/nidQCt_HEsY?si=MHbikwceIp9pOuCn

This Russian music is the bomb.First time in my life I've heard Russian music. I had no clue it was so popular, near 1 billion views! One guys voice reminded me of Vladmir Putin, LOL I guess that's the music of the future, so I get it you are not in love but you got love.

[Vagabundo1]

Pernoite, helping others. , travel plans to rio from US or Euroland.

I have anne amari over for a pernoite. We fucked, as usual, to some anna foxx porn from kink.com. I am helping her while she gets legit work which she has been doing by online classes and referrals to governor of rio state job sites. And I am happy for her and proud of her for taking that step out of the oldest profession.

FWIW, I have had 4 straight years of hoaring and that is enough for any man in a lifetime, not that I plan to stop cold turkey. I do plan to diversify to find some balance with non pros, which in her way she is becoming. She makes 100 r a day for 5 hours of office work, copying, etc. She can make more if she learns english, so I help her by sending some english audio files, and of course, it will be nice to have some conversation with her in english.

You should help other people, especially those who can't help you, it's good for your soul, and some time down the road, you will need the favor returned.

If anyone is coming from the US or Europe, especially previous friends please let me know. I have a few items from amazon that I'd ask some fellow ISG member to bring with. Thanks in advance, and I will be glad to give you a tour of Rio sex venues when you are in town.

[Vagabundo1]

9. hoars steal your shit, most recently either Monique (90%) or Nina DePonca, who stole a knife, a large fixed blade kukri shaped knife that I used for salmon food prep. Lesson learned, file under foreign internal defense: keep your knives, laptops, cell phones in a safe. Monique is also suspect 90% for stealing my favorite balclava, which I had also showed her. Strengths come with weaknesses. She is a great fuck, and fucks 6 times or 5 times in a pernoite, and goes to the nude beach and swings, but she is a dangerous thief, which means a little BDSM is in order. The wiser course would of course to be to just avoid.

10. Hoars sometimes assault you, including with knives. So, be ready.


I have gotten sick and tired of not just cariocas but brazilins.

I've started a list.

1. no money.

2. bad weed.

3. only time they talk is to ask for money.

4. always late.

5. never on time.

6. total selfish time wasters.

7. don't speak english.

8. don't even speak portoguese. They speak this rio gibberish short hand, which I speak too, but which is shit. Just once, it only takes once, vagabundo goes out with a blond, euro girl who doesn't have goddammed instagram but has a real curriculo who shows up on time who has her own money even though I pay, who gives a legit kiss and some tits, and that is that, leave all the carioca dogs to the dogs and figure it out, there are decent women out there, not just the shit that the braziians use to scratch the itch. Hookers use them as maids to take out the trash, empty your balls, and forget them.

[Xpartan]

FWIW, I have had 4 straight years of hoaring and that is enough for any man in a lifetime, not that I plan to stop cold turkey. I do plan to diversify to find some balance with non pros, which in her way she is becoming. She makes 100 r a day for 5 hours of office work, copying, etc. She can make more if she learns english, so I help her by sending some english audio files, and of course, it will be nice to have some conversation with her in english.
Careful! I know ex-punters who have completely stopped mongering and settled down with their happy girl, a few babies, and her entire extended family. From what I gather, Brasileras stop being understanding very fast and can be as possessive as their "rich world" sisters. Gee, even I once had experienced a scene from telenovela on a weekend trip to Buzios.

And yes, when I say "punters" I mean more than one, LOL.

[SoberHans69]

Went to the 'new' terma in Centro last night, La Confriria. It's just around the corner from Terma New York.

Most of the girls were average with a few ugly ones but a couple of diamonds too. Got a 19 year old, work name Bruna, who just started there. Beautiful 19 year old with dark hair but rare for Rio, milky white skin. Good performance too.

Prices were as follows:

30 minutes - 160.

40 minutes - 180.

1 hour - 200.

I had one bottle of water and paid 33 for that and entrance combined. Rooms weren't bad either.

I know tomorrow is a national holiday, does anyone know if the termas will be open?

[The Cane]

Went to the 'new' terma in Centro last night, La Confriria. It's just around the corner from Terma New York.

Most of the girls were average with a few ugly ones but a couple of diamonds too. Got a 19 year old, work name Bruna, who just started there. Beautiful 19 year old with dark hair but rare for Rio, milky white skin. Good performance too.

Prices were as follows:

30 minutes - 160.

40 minutes - 180.

1 hour - 200.

I had one bottle of water and paid 33 for that and entrance combined. Rooms weren't bad either.

I know tomorrow is a national holiday, does anyone know if the termas will be open?Can you say a little bit more about this terma? I mean you mentioned the rooms, but how were the facilities overall? Were there showers in the rooms? What was the size of the boate (comparable to which other terma)? How many tutes had the booty on duty? Was there food? Just trying to get a sense if I should add this one to my list. Like the fact you found an attractive branca there.

[JasonLew9]

I went to Eden spa today, very happy with my hour there. Staff told me they were closed tomorrow for holiday. Not sure about the termas.

First time in Brazil, trip report to follow. A big thank you to ShinyCrazy, his Idiots guide has been so helpful.

[SoberHans69]

Can you say a little bit more about this terma? I mean you mentioned the rooms, but how were the facilities overall? Were there showers in the rooms? What was the size of the boate (comparable to which other terma)? How many tutes had the booty on duty? Was there food? Just trying to get a sense if I should add this one to my list. Like the fact you found an attractive branca there.Its a small local terma so definitely not fancy. I'd say its a step up from New York for example but not as nice as 4 x 4.

I don't think they had Food or any facilities but it was clean and everyone was friendly. The rooms had showers.

There was around 15 women there and at least 3 I would have taken.

If you are expecting Solarium / Centaurus quality you will be hugely disappointed but its a nice alternative to 4 x 4 and very cheap just to go in and have a drink. 4 x 4 is 70 entrance with no consumption, which seems quite expensive to me for a centro terma.

[The Cane]

Its a small local terma so definitely not fancy. I'd say its a step up from New York for example but not as nice as 4 x 4.

I don't think they had Food or any facilities but it was clean and everyone was friendly. The rooms had showers.

There was around 15 women there and at least 3 I would have taken.

If you are expecting Solarium / Centaurus quality you will be hugely disappointed but its a nice alternative to 4 x 4 and very cheap just to go in and have a drink. 4 x 4 is 70 entrance with no consumption, which seems quite expensive to me for a centro terma.Thanks for these additional details. I'm always looking for new places to add into a rotation. I just might have to try this one out!

[Vagabundo1]

On our local whatsapp group, we have access to this terma's private whatsapp group. PM me or Senor Nounce or MichaelSamuel to be added.

These tier 2 (centro prives and termas change all the time. I am also constantly updating the bubba boy guide (w vagabundo et al 's updates) . That too we can send through the local wassap group.

Vagabundo had a good 30 minute fuck bbfscip with callsign amber lynn at the hotel sevilha yesterday.

This time of year is when the best talent comes out for money, including the exploitedteens dot com / xes network / we fuck black girls dot com / dogfartnetwork / anal vids mambo perv / interracial visions dot com quality girls, like jasminy vilar, rebecca vilar, etc.

So if you are a porn producer like the the authors of the above intellectual property, now to about November (call it halloween) is the best time to be in Rio de Janeiro, which is it's own planet and the capital of the world.


Its a small local terma so definitely not fancy. I'd say its a step up from New York for example but not as nice as 4 x 4.

I don't think they had Food or any facilities but it was clean and everyone was friendly. The rooms had showers.

There was around 15 women there and at least 3 I would have taken.

If you are expecting Solarium / Centaurus quality you will be hugely disappointed but its a nice alternative to 4 x 4 and very cheap just to go in and have a drink. 4 x 4 is 70 entrance with no consumption, which seems quite expensive to me for a centro terma.

[Tochka]

Dude is right. Over the course of several trips I cannot tell you how many things I lost, stolen, forgotten in RJ or SP. Left iPhones 13 in Uber, left iPhone on a customer service counter somewhere in the GRU airport, lost wallet, lost credit cards, slick pickpocketed by a smiling hood garotas, hit by a car, hit by a moto, near decapitation of thumb as it was slammed into the uber car door in front of clinica prime, the garotas came out to see who was howling like a banshee. Hit by Moto driving on the stupid sidewalk in front of the supermarket, lost US dollars on the floor somewhere in scandallo, pants pockets pilifired by negra garota while in bathroom the other garota told on her so got it backthe little shit is blocked and she is called the negra Ladro in our garotas wassap group.

Gave away $500 reais as tip in drunken stupor because the $2 dollars reais blue color banknote looks like the blue $500 reais banknote when drunk, forgot the iPhone charger cable plugged into the power outlet in a bunch of no tell motel rooms, getting counterfeits reais as change, sketchy guys trying to jump into the uber, use the door as a battering ram to kick those mofos out.

Series of drunken garotas vomiting in casaro room, drunken garotas vomiting in scandallos room, that's some smelly shit they eat.

Sexy looking garotas with a curvy bunda has a weirdo enormous hairy ass pimple on the rim of her butthole, damn I jumped the f-out of the room yuck. Didn't care about her feelings nothing except getting the fuck hell out of there. Never touched her.

A few times Smelled like weed walking into SDU and CGH airport because garotas had been smoking weed all afternoon. Hope there are no sniffer dogs at those airports.

Woke up in the Airbnb middle of the day with Solarium, Monte Carlos, and New York Cancun locker room keys wrapped around my wrists and arms, I left clothes in termas locker all night and next day didn't remember which termas had my stuff. I guess they don't always check all the lockers and room keys when they close up.

In the end got a new iphone recovered iphone number, esim, all data from the magical cloud, got new credit card, no security or fraud alerts happened, great returns in the market, so cashed out some profits, rebuilt the Brasilian war chest, went to the ER hospital, bandaged everything up, thumb took six months to heal, more physical therapy to get rid of the walking limp, got a leash for the iphone, always use the leash, stick the phone inside button shirt walking around centro or on metro. Learned to find and use the no frills no tell motel in centro, copa, botafogo, gloria, lapa for hood and prive garota takeout, not the airbnb suite, keep stuff away from frisky garotas, wearing pants with double inside pockets, in a vehicle roll down windows turn on inside lights when police roadblocks ahead say nothing, went back next night to each Termas to find my clothes, now I wear the robe over the clothes.

Dude I will never ever go down on Prive, Clinica, boate, garotas no matter what. More power to ya dining at the why bros. It's the other garotas job in the duplo session, to tongue pussy lick, DATY that anal pimpled pussies.

[Sperto]

Gave away $500 reais as tip in drunken stupor because the $2 dollars reais blue color banknote looks like the blue $500 reais banknote That 500 reais banknote must have been specially made for you. However there are 200 and 100 reais banknotes. Maybe if a newbie is drunk or have weak eyes he could mistake a 100 reais banknote for 2 reais.

[Tochka]

That 500 reais banknote must have been specially made for you. However there are 200 and 100 reais banknotes. Maybe if a newbie is drunk or have weak eyes he could mistake a 100 reais banknote for 2 reais.Yup its the 100 reais banknote and 2 reais that look similar color to me, in a drunken stupor.

No wonder that fat ass cleaning gal at monte carlos was so happy!

Just needed four more towels for all the six wet-spots in the bed. The two garotas squirted a circle of wetspots around the monte carlo logo.

I had to leche in the bulleseye center, both lapped it up the leche gloop. Bed was a mess of body fluids. Damn glad I didn't have to clean up that mess.

Learned to keep those 2 reais in different pocket from 100 , they look kinda blue to me.

YMMV your experience will vary different from mine.

[Turgid]

......Dude I will never ever go down on Prive, Clinica, boate, garotas no matter what. More power to ya dining at the why bros. It's the other garotas job in the duplo session, to tongue pussy lick, DATY that anal pimpled pussies.You're missing 20% of the fun.

[Vagabundo1]

Is there a 500 reais banknote?


That 500 reais banknote must have been specially made for you. However there are 200 and 100 reais banknotes. Maybe if a newbie is drunk or have weak eyes he could mistake a 100 reais banknote for 2 reais.

[Tochka]

Is there a 500 reais banknote?Yup, it's the 100 reais banknote and 2 reais that look similar in color to me in Brasil. This trip I had leftover banknotes from mongering in Tijuana and CDMX, I think it is 20 pesos Mexican banknote is bluish dunno, then mongered in DR Santo Domingo, the airport ATM gives 2000 pesos seems bluish dunno, Panama all greenbacks, brasil back to bluish banknotes.

I dislike getting coins back in change. A few times unknowingly tried to give tip in coins from the wrong country or pay tolls in wrong coins.

Bucket list is to play porno Monopoly with five Chicas using banknotes from each of their countries, DR, Colombiana, Brasil, Mexicana and Thailand Rsrs kkkk jaja haha.

YMMV your experience may vary from mine, opinion on different banknotes vary from mine YMMV.

[Questner]

Is there a 500 reais banknote?No, not yet.

https://www.bcb.gov.br/cedulasemoedas/cedulasemitidas

[One Eyed Man]

No, not yet.

https://www.bcb.gov.br/cedulasemoedas/cedulasemitidasWho would want it when nobody has change for a 100 anyway?

[Pahllus Maximus]

Women are ruled by their looks, overt sexuality men go bananas over and their uterus. This applies to the lowest crack ho to the intelligent professionals, and furthermore there is time limit on looks and fertility. Women rationally use loosely defined "love", sex and finally children to secure the man, not always successfully. This traps a lot of men into disadvantage and especially in the USA where the entire legal system and economy is centered on the production of new economic units (babies) variously for labor, taxation, canon fodder in wars and consumption of consumer baubles and as debt slaves for banks. That's the truth of the trade. Women are part of the glue and many see men as their legally protected meal ticket. It's not that women are bad, they too are prisoners and (generally reluctantly) have to act and dress in a certain way to avoid being labelled as a ugly * or pushy. They also face a huge risk of sexual assault just walking the streets.

Anyway, the Hollywood myth of fireworks and eternal love, like religion and eternal heaven or hell, democracy and the legal scam, are bullshit to control us. The trick is is make us believe in it so we self-regulate on their rigged game. The men here are obviously onto the Hollywood lies about eternal love, but often miss the rest of the puzzle, and a really big bit is being genuinely self-confident in who you are, self -improvement through doing the hard yards, and trusting critical thinking and cold assessment of what is done or not done, rather than cheap talk and lofty claims, ie "you can trust me". The missing self-development, lack of building relationships are lack of self care is why so many devolve into alcohol (drug) and mongering to fill the vacuum and why there are so many suicides of loners in sexual paradise like LOS or Rio. That is as much as a trap as a wage slave at will being ground down in some corporate plantation.

Rio is great. I'm enjoying the broad fabric, the food, nature, normal locals as real friends (that also requires real work) and generally the opposite of USA that is a mainly an empty society of shopping malls and entertainment (that includes the media and corrupt politicians) and escapism.

Have fun, and yes the P4 P women are mostly poor, desperate with nothing to lose and will try to take advantage as a trade for fat, smelly, unfriendly or even violent and badly groomed men slobbering over them for cash or to use as a human fleshlight. You would do the same if you were in their position rather than some privileged Bourgeios and entitled mindset of property laws that is an exercise of unequal power and exploitation, so quit whining and just take discreet precautions without rubbing it into her face. Get to the gym, dress nicely, clean your teeth, be nice and treat them well. It's a great investment, generally a 3x trade. I'm very grateful to them for bringing so much pleasure, excitement and fun. Coffee and BJ every morning. Definitely start the day with a happy place.

[Questner]

Who would want it when nobody has change for a 100 anyway?Those who don't need cash change.

Just recently 1,000 ARS notes south of the border were enough, but here comes Polyphemus:

https://www.bcra.gob.ar/micrositios/Micrositio-billete-10000-pesos-del-Valle-Belgrano-i.asp

[Pahllus Maximus]

That heroic figure is just $11, soon to be much less. Poor people, decades of corruption. But the good news is that Netflix and other services are hugely discounted if you use a VPN and / or get a ARS debit card. Not that you need to, BR is quite competitive compared to rip-off USA suckers (same with health care, hookers and everything else).

Enjoy the arb!

Pm.


Those who don't need cash change.

Just recently 1,000 ARS notes south of the border were enough, but here comes Polyphemus:

https://www.bcra.gob.ar/micrositios/Micrositio-billete-10000-pesos-del-Valle-Belgrano-i.asp

[Questner]

That heroic figure is just $11, soon to be much less. Poor people, decades of corruption. But the good news is that Netflix and other services are hugely discounted if you use a VPN and / or get a ARS debit card. Not that you need to, BR is quite competitive compared to rip-off USA suckers (same with health care, hookers and everything else).

Enjoy the arb!

Pm.True point to the conversation is not to accept by mistake an obsolete 500 Cruzeiros banknote.

The bank needs to lower costs on the issue of banknotes. There is huge demand for cash in agriculture, mining and all illicit activities.

[Vagabundo1]

Man, that is so true.

Not a day goes by that I don't get hit with I don't have change.

I was at a Surf hostel last week, and they didn't have change for a 20, much less a 50.

They ended up taking 2 reais notes for a coffee at a discount.

I am totally sick of this broke ass, we don't have cash society because everyone is in fear of gettting robbed. But the bus drivers want their. 30 centavos in the 4. 30 fare.

So sick of broke brazilians I can't even describe.


Who would want it when nobody has change for a 100 anyway?

[Vagabundo1]

Hear hear!


Women are ruled by their looks, overt sexuality men go bananas over and their uterus. This applies to the lowest crack ho to the intelligent professionals, and furthermore there is time limit on looks and fertility. Women rationally use loosely defined "love", sex and finally children to secure the man, not always successfully. This traps a lot of men into disadvantage and especially in the USA where the entire legal system and economy is centered on the production of new economic units (babies) variously for labor, taxation, canon fodder in wars and consumption of consumer baubles and as debt slaves for banks. That's the truth of the trade. Women are part of the glue and many see men as their legally protected meal ticket. It's not that women are bad, they too are prisoners and (generally reluctantly) have to act and dress in a certain way to avoid being labelled as a ugly * or pushy. They also face a huge risk of sexual assault just walking the streets..

[MRusa007]

What are other good mongering places other that Rio and SP? In a priority order and why?

Looking for more Branca type girls.

Curitiba.

Porto Alegro.

Fortalezza.

Florinapolis.

Belo Horizonte / Minas Gerais.

Reciefe.

Any expert recommendations? With some location / place guidance. Anything comfortable like Rio's termas (don't have to be a terma, but a place to sit, review, drink up, etc. ,) and I am aware there is NO place like Scandallo. But any lower version of this concept?

Like to expand beyond SP and RIO before I get too old.

[Questner]

What are other good mongering places other that Rio and SP? In a priority order and why?

Looking for more Branca type girls.

Curitiba.

Porto Alegro.

Fortalezza.

Florinapolis.

Belo Horizonte / Minas Gerais.

Reciefe.

Any expert recommendations? With some location / place guidance. Anything comfortable like Rio's termas (don't have to be a terma, but a place to sit, review, drink up, etc. ,) and I am aware there is NO place like Scandallo. But any lower version of this concept?

Like to expand beyond SP and RIO before I get too old.There was a post by Sperto on what he liked and graded.

You can search by the amount of providers, here is a good tool to see where is the action:

https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/cidades

Porto Alegre has to wait until the city gets over the flooding.

I can't report on Belo Horizonte, but I suspect it might be a winner.

[Sperto]

There was a post by Sperto on what he liked and graded.My ranking was made 2006. Lot of things have changed in these 18 years. Still I would propably rank the capitals quite similar today.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?573-Other-Areas&p=532479&highlight=ranking#post532479.

[VanessasClient]

What are other good mongering places other that Rio and SP? In a priority order and why?

Looking for more Branca type girls.

Curitiba.

Porto Alegro.

Fortalezza.

Florinapolis.

Belo Horizonte / Minas Gerais.

Reciefe.

Any expert recommendations? With some location / place guidance. Anything comfortable like Rio's termas (don't have to be a terma, but a place to sit, review, drink up, etc. ,) and I am aware there is NO place like Scandallo. But any lower version of this concept?

Like to expand beyond SP and RIO before I get too old.I had a trip to Santa Catarina earlier this year. But, I don't use strip clubs; I bring girls back to my room instead. You can find lots of young students there looking for money, but they tend not to stick around for very long. Recife is very dangerous. A lot of street crime, and the beaches are a hot spot for shark attacks. I don't suggest visiting that city for any reason; it's just begging for trouble. I saw tons of ads for Curitiba, but Parana was too far away from where I was staying. But I imagine that city is your best bet.

[Tochka]

I am in an Airbnb spot near Lips hotel in Centro. The leisurely walk to building 156 is about 5 minutes.

I had another solid session with massage places located in the building. Two young beauty garotas, hour session for double deepthroat threesome for $400 reais is an affordable, repeat price point. This time there was no need to stop by security in building 156 to pickup a entrance card.

It seems they are installing a high tech facial recognition system to enter the turnstiles to gain access to the elevators.

Slight rant * in my opinion, these facial tracking systems are becoming more prevalent in hotels, and other buildings in brasil.

In the you. In the US I went thru three facials systems just to take a flight Clear, TSA and Boarding the plane.

Facials systems to get some Pussy is on another level. *rant off.

Back to the plot, after a nice evening session in Branco 156, hustled quickly on the path back to the airbnb.

I walked bristpast Bradesco bank at 6. 45 pm and unconsciously noticed a short line of people inside inside of the ATMs. Thought nothing of the scene, kept walking to get off centro street before late night darkness.

Somewhere in the my brain went into tiltwhoa rewind. What did see? A Bradesco bank open late. Hmm.

The feet automatically stopped in its tracks, doing ballerina you-turn. I walked back a few paces, stood there with my nose planted on the outside the bank, smearing the windowed pained glass. Felt like Spock processing illogical information, wondering if this a mirage?

I focused on the door. Deciding to give a gentle tug. Thinking, its probably locked and closed. I apply pressure, open the door swoosh. Inside the Bradesco bank ATM at 7 pm. Best yet the machine ATM works! Damn it, feels like striking gold, finding a gem in the muck and mire of brazilian ATMs. Info that's been around all this time and, it didn't register until now.

The Bradesco Bank ATM on the same block as the General Quarters of the Militar Policia is open to 9 pm. The google address.

Are. Evaristo the Veiga, 264 - Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ. Not sure how I missed this gem, merely two blocks away from the airbnb.

Yet another thing wished I knew earlier a late night, secure Bradesco Bank ATMs open late.

YMMV your experience may vary, your experience might be different. The Bank and ATM might be closed or not working when you visit or long ass line, only sharing my experience and how I like to roll.

[MaddTraveler]

I didn't write a full report during my near 3 Months stay here in Rio, but wanted to share one more update on some spots:

Made my way from the west side (Jacarepagua / Recreio) to Copacabana and Centro / Lapa area. Found a nice and convenient Airbnb here that's central enough to navigate pretty much anywhere. Met some guys near MABS in Copacabana, and we ran through some of the non-mongering clubs in the city and I must say I hate not being able to speak much Porto to pickup local girls. Other than that locals in general are very friendly and eager to chat, drink and dance with you. My day-mongering actions started rather slow since March back in Recreio due to work, and it's why I was chatting and hunting some Eng speaking non pros through dating apps and Seeking. Many successes, and I had one more non-pro date in Lapa, and then stopped and started to focus on the day action here after I managed to set a change in my work schedule.

These are few prives / termas / clubs that I had some decent actions in. All with walking distance: (I may reply on others' posts and questions if needed about other locations).

DUDA MASSAGEM. Av. Rio Branco 156, Centro, Sala 3320.1 h 200 r, 30 min 170 r. I had several nice sessions incl BBBJ and surprised by some great massages as well. Very clean room and new sheet placed in front of you with hot / clean shower. Girls range from 5-9 in terms of quality.

ONIX TERAPIAS. Same 156 building sala 2235.1 h 170 r, 30 min 140 r. Slightly lower quality vs Duda hence the lower price but not bad. Girls quality 5-7.

STUDIO MALIBU. Same 156 building sala 606. Didn't like the rooms and the only 3 girls from the lineup, cheaper than the above if you wish to try. There are many other places in that same building but didn't go. Quality 4-5.

BELPRAZER. Av. Rio Branco, 185 - sala 2114 - Centro. 1 h 180 r, 30 min 140 r. So here I had one of my best sessions in centro with a garota that look just like the porn star Alexis Texas, same shape if not better. Tight and fuckd till she bled. Or may have been her period that I knocked back on at the end. Anyway, lots of beauties and I was impressed on how cheap this place is, went few times, clean rooms with ac, shower. This is a must! Few other spots in this building also. Quality 5-9.

DARK ROOM. Praca Olavo Bilac 28, floor 20 Cobertura 6 Centro. 1 h 140 r, 30 min 100. Quality 4-8. Impressively cheap hence no ac in rooms, no showers. But worth it since has a huge lineup during the day, more variety in terms of complexions. When you walk they'll take you to a room for the lineup right away but you can decline and ask to go the the lounge / bar where you can watch the girls dance and interract with them first. You'll see few locals sitting in there like 3-4 guys. Good hidden vibe in a corporate building LOL.

ESPACIO TERAPIAS. Praca Olavo Bilac 28, Sala 1417 Centro. 1 h 200 r, only 3 girls, two were solid 8+. Had one hell of a session and a spectacular BBBJ, we had great chemistry and then went back few times for that same girl. Almost took her out to dinner. Must go. Quality 6-8. Same building has other spots.

TERMAS 4 X4 - Rua Buenos Aires, 44, Centro. Entry 70 r, 30 minutes standard room is 350 r. With drinks and entry expect to spend min 600 r+ hence quality 5-9. Be sure to go around 5-8 p for full lineup. Prob one of the best in terms of quality and value in Rio.

CENTRO DE LAZER MV30 CLUB. Rua Mairink Veiga, 30 Centro. Entry fee 10 r and 150/30 min. Didn't have many girls, like 5 girls but still had a nice session. Average rooms, fair drink pricings.

UPHOUSE NIGHTCLUB. Av. Mem de Sá, 89 - Lapa, lapa (two blocks away from my airbnb). Entry fee 10 r, 30 min 150 r, 1 h 300 r. Very basic rooms but upgrade avail for 70 r which I recommend. Fairly cheap for this area and girls are 5-8+. Went there several times w buddies and had a blast. If a group of bros walk in they'll play hip hop and reggae music and a good vibe when all the girls come to dance. Few blocks on same Road is a sis club by same owner called UPBAR NIGHT CLUB this one mostly open on weekends. The same girls rotate between the two.

CLUB 502. Are. The Alfandega, 55, Centro. Entry fee 10 r, 30 min 170 r. Not a bad club but didn't like the lineup and may have gone at the wrong time.

MABS. Copacabana restaurant / bar. Address in Gmap. Only went there to drink and chatted thew few girls and got some numbers, girls usually ask 400-500 r and will come down to 300-350 r. May worth it since these girls will dine w you and spend more time in your hotel / apt, mult pops if they like you so it is what it is.

DOLCE VITA. Av. Atlantica 1424, Also easy to find in Gmap, Copacabana famous pickup night club. Went and had lots of fun. Drinks arent as pricey as the reviews say in fact I had a double black label JW whiskey that I paid 70 r total and expected to pay twice that amt. Even some non-tourist clubs charge more for that. But then, they still overcharge my CC, and their reviews got that part right. So only pay in cash in this place if you can LOL. Total cost of drinks for my girl and I was 380 r incl a 70 r entry fee and tip, and they charged me 465 r. Disputed the diff with my bank and should be easy since my receipt says 380 r. Geesh. I thought the negative reviews on that place were exaggerating but damn. Besides that, girl pricing will range from 400 r to 600 r depending on the girl, or how you look LOL.

This is a club only and girls are freelancers so you must take her with you and negotiate. My ego spiked when I got quoted 300 r an HR with one LOL, but she wasnt my type. The one I hooked up with was 500 r but spent the night. Chemistry was insane like I had found a wife. Range in the club 5-9. Go early cause you know the fresh gringos do snatch the real beauties quickly. I think it's worth 500-700 r or whatever they ask here. Because she'll be spending an hour or two already in the club with you dancing, feeling on you and having a good time, plus the time in your room and usually for the remainder of the night. I'm cheap but I spend on value LOL. This place overall is fun, or a little heaven if you like music and enjoy dancing. Total damage 380 r + 500 r + food + taxi = 1000 r. With all my of my $20 centro pornstar bangs I can afford to spend $200 usd occasionally LOL.

EDEN SPA. Av. Nossa Sra de Copacabana 583, sala 401. I also went to sala 302. Sessioned in both places and very average, both times I didn't get a BBBJ. Girl at 302 said she didn't do that at all, at 401 girl said had a toothache or some BS. So didn't go again. I think they chose and select who to do that for here. Or most guys who get it interview the girls first to ask and the girl would say yes as a condition to be picked. I haven't done this anywhere, which I notice is a thing here in Brazil hence why they have the girls come and introduce themselves one by one, and my entire stay here I never assumed it was for a mini interview. I assume some gringos write that shit in their phone already translated and ask the girl if they suck dick raw, yes or no and if yes they consider picking them. I think the locals do the same based on reviews. Oh well. Pricing 200 r or 180 r for the HR, and 140/170 r for 30 mins didn't recall which one, didn't care since not going back LOL. 5-7 quality.

EURO RIO SPA. Av. Armando Lombardi, 800 - sala 329 - Barra the Tijuca. 1 h 170 r. 30 min 140 r. Great quality 6-8. It's a good thing they open on saturdays, but do yourself a favor and only go during the weekdays normal hours. The girl who opend the door one weekend came in nude, said only herself was avail as a way to earn my biz and I said ok. Then offered anal during the session and I only accepted cause I thought she wanted that. Then at the end she wanted to add an extra 100 r for the anal. I laughed and told her don't try to rob me, you shouldve told me there's a cost. Plus I didn't ask, you asked me as if its something you wanted, it's part of sex and I won't pay extra and was firm. Then she said ok just pay her the 170. She wanted to get more claiming we did 40 minutes when we only did 30. Thing is pricings are already on their site so I didn't ask, and she didn't make me pay first as usual, hence her anal trick lmao. Too bad your boi's a degenerate perv filthy monger and no amateur. I did smash that booty hole hard and she claimed I pounded her hard, even made a gesture of wham wham wham. LOL. So I felt bad and gave her a total of 230 instead of the 270 she wanted. No big deal since was a nice session. Branca, full of tats, nice ass, about 30 yrs old, nice tits.

One of the things I do when I get really freaky and feeling a girl, is that I throw her to the wall at the some point, they immediately stand on tippy toes, my left hand on their waist, right hand grabs the neck, and fuck them from behind on the wall with my nicely curved shaft. The taller they are the better and I go nuts. Wild sex act works well on Brazillian women and they get turned on by it. Usually in the prives that offer a massage first, I usually surprise them by grabbing them to start making out instead of laying down to get a massage first as they ask. They'd fix the bed, grab oil and ask me to lay, and instead I say come here, pulled them toward me while standing and start kissing and immediately start fingering, pussy eating, turn them against the wall for spanking, and they'd start moaning like mmm, mmm, eyes closed. You can tell they love it and they'd ask for more. Sometimes you have to bring it out of them and there's nothing like surprises or being unique to a woman.

THE BEST. Every country or major city I've been to, I always end up discovering a gem, a secret. And my friend here I introduce to you:

CLUB DAS FLORES. Av. Marechal Fontenele, 5625, Realengo, Rio de Janeiro, RJ. 30 min 100 r, 1 h 140 r. I think pricings here slightly vary depending on the girl. Or just like many places, some girls quotes or incl the pricing of an upgraded room. In terms of quality, hands down the BEST of the BEST, cheaper non termas type of club in Rio. Range 5-9's, all complexions, 30+ girls even at 5 am. Not sure if like this at all hours. But go late evenings. This amount of quantity and quality is unheard of anywhere in Rio. The club has tight security at entrance and inside, cheap drinks, pool tables, rooms, sitting area. Girls will make ways to come and talk to you, dance, flirt and go from there. Rooms are ok. Highly recommended but just don't go and ruin this hidden gem that most guys don't write about here. You're welcome my lads.

Visiting few other locations on my way out in the next few days. Quick advice is when you're in town, walking these streets in centro and see a tiny starways with lights, music upstairs, don't hesitate to go up. You may end up finding one of the hundreds of no name clubs (some call trash) where you can meet a nice bunda 9 that you can split in half for $15.

[Vagabundo1]

So you're heading out?

Fair winds and following seas. Some funny stuff here. My nicely curved shaft. Send that into penthouse letters. How do I nominate this for reports of distinction?


I didn't write a full report during my near 3 Months stay here in Rio, but wanted to share one more update on some spots:

Made my way from the west side (Jacarepagua / Recreio) to Copacabana and Centro / Lapa area. Found a nice and convenient Airbnb here that's central enough to navigate pretty much anywhere. Met some guys near MABS in Copacabana, and we ran through some of the non-mongering clubs in the city and I must say I hate not being able to speak much Porto to pickup local girls. Other than that locals in general are very friendly and eager to chat, drink and dance with you. My day-mongering actions started rather slow since March back in Recreio due to work, and it's why I was chatting and hunting some Eng speaking non pros through dating apps and Seeking. Many successes, and I had one more non-pro date in Lapa, and then stopped and started to focus on the day action here after I managed to set a change in my work schedule.

These are few prives / termas / clubs that I had some decent actions in. All with walking distance: (I may reply on others' posts and questions if needed about other locations).

DUDA MASSAGEM. Av. Rio Branco 156, Centro, Sala 3320.1 h 200 r, 30 min 170 r. I had several nice sessions incl BBBJ and surprised by some great massages as well. Very clean room and new sheet placed in front of you with hot / clean shower. Girls range from 5-9 in terms of quality.

ONIX TERAPIAS. Same 156 building sala 2235.1 h 170 r, 30 min 140 r. Slightly lower quality vs Duda hence the lower price but not bad. Girls quality 5-7.

STUDIO MALIBU. Same 156 building sala 606. Didn't like the rooms and the only 3 girls from the lineup, cheaper than the above if you wish to try. There are many other places in that same building but didn't go. Quality 4-5.

BELPRAZER. Av. Rio Branco, 185 - sala 2114 - Centro. 1 h 180 r, 30 min 140 r. So here I had one of my best sessions in centro with a garota that look just like the porn star Alexis Texas, same shape if not better. Tight and fuckd till she bled. Or may have been her period that I knocked back on at the end. Anyway, lots of beauties and I was impressed on how cheap this place is, went few times, clean rooms with ac, shower. This is a must! Few other spots in this building also. Quality 5-9.

DARK ROOM. Praca Olavo Bilac 28, floor 20 Cobertura 6 Centro. 1 h 140 r, 30 min 100. Quality 4-8. Impressively cheap hence no ac in rooms, no showers. But worth it since has a huge lineup during the day, more variety in terms of complexions. When you walk they'll take you to a room for the lineup right away but you can decline and ask to go the the lounge / bar where you can watch the girls dance and interract with them first. You'll see few locals sitting in there like 3-4 guys. Good hidden vibe in a corporate building LOL.

ESPACIO TERAPIAS. Praca Olavo Bilac 28, Sala 1417 Centro. 1 h 200 r, only 3 girls, two were solid 8+. Had one hell of a session and a spectacular BBBJ, we had great chemistry and then went back few times for that same girl. Almost took her out to dinner. Must go. Quality 6-8. Same building has other spots.

TERMAS 4 X4 - Rua Buenos Aires, 44, Centro. Entry 70 r, 30 minutes standard room is 350 r. With drinks and entry expect to spend min 600 r+ hence quality 5-9. Be sure to go around 5-8 p for full lineup. Prob one of the best in terms of quality and value in Rio.

CENTRO DE LAZER MV30 CLUB. Rua Mairink Veiga, 30 Centro. Entry fee 10 r and 150/30 min. Didn't have many girls, like 5 girls but still had a nice session. Average rooms, fair drink pricings.

UPHOUSE NIGHTCLUB. Av. Mem de S, 89 - Lapa, lapa (two blocks away from my airbnb). Entry fee 10 r, 30 min 150 r, 1 h 300 r. Very basic rooms but upgrade avail for 70 r which I recommend. Fairly cheap for this area and girls are 5-8+. Went there several times w buddies and had a blast. If a group of bros walk in they'll play hip hop and reggae music and a good vibe when all the girls come to dance. Few blocks on same Road is a sis club by same owner called UPBAR NIGHT CLUB this one mostly open on weekends. The same girls rotate between the two.

CLUB 502. Are. The Alfandega, 55, Centro. Entry fee 10 r, 30 min 170 r. Not a bad club but didn't like the lineup and may have gone at the wrong time.

MABS. Copacabana restaurant / bar. Address in Gmap. Only went there to drink and chatted thew few girls and got some numbers, girls usually ask 400-500 r and will come down to 300-350 r. May worth it since these girls will dine w you and spend more time in your hotel / apt, mult pops if they like you so it is what it is.

DOLCE VITA. Av. Atlantica 1424, Also easy to find in Gmap, Copacabana famous pickup night club. Went and had lots of fun. Drinks arent as pricey as the reviews say in fact I had a double black label JW whiskey that I paid 70 r total and expected to pay twice that amt. Even some non-tourist clubs charge more for that. But then, they still overcharge my CC, and their reviews got that part right. So only pay in cash in this place if you can LOL. Total cost of drinks for my girl and I was 380 r incl a 70 r entry fee and tip, and they charged me 465 r. Disputed the diff with my bank and should be easy since my receipt says 380 r. Geesh. I thought the negative reviews on that place were exaggerating but damn. Besides that, girl pricing will range from 400 r to 600 r depending on the girl, or how you look LOL.

This is a club only and girls are freelancers so you must take her with you and negotiate. My ego spiked when I got quoted 300 r an HR with one LOL, but she wasnt my type. The one I hooked up with was 500 r but spent the night. Chemistry was insane like I had found a wife. Range in the club 5-9. Go early cause you know the fresh gringos do snatch the real beauties quickly. I think it's worth 500-700 r or whatever they ask here. Because she'll be spending an hour or two already in the club with you dancing, feeling on you and having a good time, plus the time in your room and usually for the remainder of the night. I'm cheap but I spend on value LOL. This place overall is fun, or a little heaven if you like music and enjoy dancing. Total damage 380 r + 500 r + food + taxi = 1000 r. With all my of my $20 centro pornstar bangs I can afford to spend $200 usd occasionally LOL.

EDEN SPA. Av. Nossa Sra de Copacabana 583, sala 401. I also went to sala 302. Sessioned in both places and very average, both times I didn't get a BBBJ. Girl at 302 said she didn't do that at all, at 401 girl said had a toothache or some BS. So didn't go again. I think they chose and select who to do that for here. Or most guys who get it interview the girls first to ask and the girl would say yes as a condition to be picked. I haven't done this anywhere, which I notice is a thing here in Brazil hence why they have the girls come and introduce themselves one by one, and my entire stay here I never assumed it was for a mini interview. I assume some gringos write that shit in their phone already translated and ask the girl if they suck dick raw, yes or no and if yes they consider picking them. I think the locals do the same based on reviews. Oh well. Pricing 200 r or 180 r for the HR, and 140/170 r for 30 mins didn't recall which one, didn't care since not going back LOL. 5-7 quality.

EURO RIO SPA. Av. Armando Lombardi, 800 - sala 329 - Barra the Tijuca. 1 h 170 r. 30 min 140 r. Great quality 6-8. It's a good thing they open on saturdays, but do yourself a favor and only go during the weekdays normal hours. The girl who opend the door one weekend came in nude, said only herself was avail as a way to earn my biz and I said ok. Then offered anal during the session and I only accepted cause I thought she wanted that. Then at the end she wanted to add an extra 100 r for the anal. I laughed and told her don't try to rob me, you shouldve told me there's a cost. Plus I didn't ask, you asked me as if its something you wanted, it's part of sex and I won't pay extra and was firm. Then she said ok just pay her the 170. She wanted to get more claiming we did 40 minutes when we only did 30. Thing is pricings are already on their site so I didn't ask, and she didn't make me pay first as usual, hence her anal trick lmao. Too bad your boi's a degenerate perv filthy monger and no amateur. I did smash that booty hole hard and she claimed I pounded her hard, even made a gesture of wham wham wham. LOL. So I felt bad and gave her a total of 230 instead of the 270 she wanted. No big deal since was a nice session. Branca, full of tats, nice ass, about 30 yrs old, nice tits.

One of the things I do when I get really freaky and feeling a girl, is that I throw her to the wall at the some point, they immediately stand on tippy toes, my left hand on their waist, right hand grabs the neck, and fuck them from behind on the wall with my nicely curved shaft. The taller they are the better and I go nuts. Wild sex act works well on Brazillian women and they get turned on by it. Usually in the prives that offer a massage first, I usually surprise them by grabbing them to start making out instead of laying down to get a massage first as they ask. They'd fix the bed, grab oil and ask me to lay, and instead I say come here, pulled them toward me while standing and start kissing and immediately start fingering, pussy eating, turn them against the wall for spanking, and they'd start moaning like mmm, mmm, eyes closed. You can tell they love it and they'd ask for more. Sometimes you have to bring it out of them and there's nothing like surprises or being unique to a woman.

THE BEST. Every country or major city I've been to, I always end up discovering a gem, a secret. And my friend here I introduce to you:

CLUB DAS FLORES. Av. Marechal Fontenele, 5625, Realengo, Rio de Janeiro, RJ. 30 min 100 r, 1 h 140 r. I think pricings here slightly vary depending on the girl. Or just like many places, some girls quotes or incl the pricing of an upgraded room. In terms of quality, hands down the BEST of the BEST, cheaper non termas type of club in Rio. Range 5-9's, all complexions, 30+ girls even at 5 am. Not sure if like this at all hours. But go late evenings. This amount of quantity and quality is unheard of anywhere in Rio. The club has tight security at entrance and inside, cheap drinks, pool tables, rooms, sitting area. Girls will make ways to come and talk to you, dance, flirt and go from there. Rooms are ok. Highly recommended but just don't go and ruin this hidden gem that most guys don't write about here. You're welcome my lads.

Visiting few other locations on my way out in the next few days. Quick advice is when you're in town, walking these streets in centro and see a tiny starways with lights, music upstairs, don't hesitate to go up. You may end up finding one of the hundreds of no name clubs (some call trash) where you can meet a nice bunda 9 that you can split in half for $15.

[MaddTraveler]

So you're heading out?

Fair winds and following seas. Some funny stuff here. My nicely curved shaft. Send that into penthouse letters. How do I nominate this for reports of distinction?What up VagaB!

LOL Yeah man. Group trip pre-planned elsewhere otherwise would stick around. Didn't even check out SP and other areas I wanted to yet. Someone gave me a contact for visa assistance so will work on that for a longer 1-2 yr stay next round. Brazil is a pussy headquarter. Of course unless I make my way to Thailand after Col and the Shaft somehow gets pussy whipped there.

[Turgid]

......and fuck them from behind on the wall with my nicely curved shaft........Yours is curved upwards? Cool. Mine is curved sideways.

[The Cane]

BELPRAZER. Av. Rio Branco, 185 - sala 2114 - Centro. 1 h 180 r, 30 min 140 r. So here I had one of my best sessions in centro with a garota that look just like the porn star Alexis Texas, same shape if not better.Got damn that had to be some banging branca booty hole right there! Nah, there aren't any white girls plying it in Brazil! Not at all! Not ever! Aaahahahaha! Can't wait to get back down there. Well my time is a coming. Big time! Believe this.

[Xpartan]

I didn't write a full report during my near 3 Months stay here in Rio, but wanted to share one more update on some spots:Fantastic report, thanks!

[Vagabundo1]

Vagabundo was just in bel prazer last week getting some. Deets omitted to protect the providers from breaking house rules, but generally, a top tier facility the in terms of room being clean, clean sheets, towels, etc, and the only downside being if the girl smokes nicotine in the room, but the other services make up for that. Too many good options in centro, actually more than enough to keep coming back.


Got damn that had to be some banging branca booty hole right there! Nah, there aren't any white girls plying it in Brazil! Not at all! Not ever! Aaahahahaha! Can't wait to get back down there. Well my time is a coming. Big time! Believe this.

[Sangnyc21]

I didn't write a full report during my near 3 Months stay here in Rio, but wanted to share one more update on some spots:

Made my way from the west side (Jacarepagua / Recreio) to Copacabana and Centro / Lapa area. Found a nice and convenient Airbnb here that's central enough to navigate pretty much anywhere. Met some guys near MABS in Copacabana, and we ran through some of the non-mongering clubs in the city and I must say I hate not being able to speak much Porto to pickup local girls. Other than that locals in general are very friendly and eager to chat, drink and dance with you. My day-mongering actions started rather slow since March back in Recreio due to work, and it's why I was chatting and hunting some Eng speaking non pros through dating apps and Seeking. Many successes, and I had one more non-pro date in Lapa, and then stopped and started to focus on the day action here after I managed to set a change in my work schedule..Very informative and a great report.

[D Cups]

I didn't write a full report during my near 3 Months stay here in Rio, but wanted to share one more update on some spots:

Made my way from the west side (Jacarepagua / Recreio) to Copacabana and Centro / Lapa area. Found a nice and convenient Airbnb here that's central enough to navigate pretty much anywhere. Met some guys near MABS in Copacabana, and we ran through some of the non-mongering clubs in the city and I must say I hate not being able to speak much Porto to pickup local girls. Other than that locals in general are very friendly and eager to chat, drink and dance with you. My day-mongering actions started rather slow since March back in Recreio due to work, and it's why I was chatting and hunting some Eng speaking non pros through dating apps and Seeking. Many successes, and I had one more non-pro date in Lapa, and then stopped and started to focus on the day action here after I managed to set a change in my work schedule.

These are few prives / termas / clubs that I had some decent actions in. All with walking distance: (I may reply on others' posts and questions if needed about other locations).

DUDA MASSAGEM. Av. Rio Branco 156, Centro, Sala 3320.1 h 200 r, 30 min 170 r. I had several nice sessions incl BBBJ and surprised by some great massages as well. Very clean room and new sheet placed in front of you with hot / clean shower. Girls range from 5-9 in terms of quality.

ONIX TERAPIAS. Same 156 building sala 2235.1 h 170 r, 30 min 140 r. Slightly lower quality vs Duda hence the lower price but not bad. Girls quality 5-7.

STUDIO MALIBU. Same 156 building sala 606. Didn't like the rooms and the only 3 girls from the lineup, cheaper than the above if you wish to try. There are many other places in that same building but didn't go. Quality 4-5.

BELPRAZER. Av. Rio Branco, 185 - sala 2114 - Centro. 1 h 180 r, 30 min 140 r. So here I had one of my best sessions in centro with a garota that look just like the porn star Alexis Texas, same shape if not better. Tight and fuckd till she bled. Or may have been her period that I knocked back on at the end. Anyway, lots of beauties and I was impressed on how cheap this place is, went few times, clean rooms with ac, shower. This is a must! Few other spots in this building also. Quality 5-9.

DARK ROOM. Praca Olavo Bilac 28, floor 20 Cobertura 6 Centro. 1 h 140 r, 30 min 100. Quality 4-8. Impressively cheap hence no ac in rooms, no showers. But worth it since has a huge lineup during the day, more variety in terms of complexions. When you walk they'll take you to a room for the lineup right away but you can decline and ask to go the the lounge / bar where you can watch the girls dance and interract with them first. You'll see few locals sitting in there like 3-4 guys. Good hidden vibe in a corporate building LOL.

ESPACIO TERAPIAS. Praca Olavo Bilac 28, Sala 1417 Centro. 1 h 200 r, only 3 girls, two were solid 8+. Had one hell of a session and a spectacular BBBJ, we had great chemistry and then went back few times for that same girl. Almost took her out to dinner. Must go. Quality 6-8. Same building has other spots.

TERMAS 4 X4 - Rua Buenos Aires, 44, Centro. Entry 70 r, 30 minutes standard room is 350 r. With drinks and entry expect to spend min 600 r+ hence quality 5-9. Be sure to go around 5-8 p for full lineup. Prob one of the best in terms of quality and value in Rio.

CENTRO DE LAZER MV30 CLUB. Rua Mairink Veiga, 30 Centro. Entry fee 10 r and 150/30 min. Didn't have many girls, like 5 girls but still had a nice session. Average rooms, fair drink pricings.

UPHOUSE NIGHTCLUB. Av. Mem de S, 89 - Lapa, lapa (two blocks away from my airbnb). Entry fee 10 r, 30 min 150 r, 1 h 300 r. Very basic rooms but upgrade avail for 70 r which I recommend. Fairly cheap for this area and girls are 5-8+. Went there several times w buddies and had a blast. If a group of bros walk in they'll play hip hop and reggae music and a good vibe when all the girls come to dance. Few blocks on same Road is a sis club by same owner called UPBAR NIGHT CLUB this one mostly open on weekends. The same girls rotate between the two.

CLUB 502. Are. The Alfandega, 55, Centro. Entry fee 10 r, 30 min 170 r. Not a bad club but didn't like the lineup and may have gone at the wrong time.

MABS. Copacabana restaurant / bar. Address in Gmap. Only went there to drink and chatted thew few girls and got some numbers, girls usually ask 400-500 r and will come down to 300-350 r. May worth it since these girls will dine w you and spend more time in your hotel / apt, mult pops if they like you so it is what it is.

DOLCE VITA. Av. Atlantica 1424, Also easy to find in Gmap, Copacabana famous pickup night club. Went and had lots of fun. Drinks arent as pricey as the reviews say in fact I had a double black label JW whiskey that I paid 70 r total and expected to pay twice that amt. Even some non-tourist clubs charge more for that. But then, they still overcharge my CC, and their reviews got that part right. So only pay in cash in this place if you can LOL. Total cost of drinks for my girl and I was 380 r incl a 70 r entry fee and tip, and they charged me 465 r. Disputed the diff with my bank and should be easy since my receipt says 380 r. Geesh. I thought the negative reviews on that place were exaggerating but damn. Besides that, girl pricing will range from 400 r to 600 r depending on the girl, or how you look LOL.

This is a club only and girls are freelancers so you must take her with you and negotiate. My ego spiked when I got quoted 300 r an HR with one LOL, but she wasnt my type. The one I hooked up with was 500 r but spent the night. Chemistry was insane like I had found a wife. Range in the club 5-9. Go early cause you know the fresh gringos do snatch the real beauties quickly. I think it's worth 500-700 r or whatever they ask here. Because she'll be spending an hour or two already in the club with you dancing, feeling on you and having a good time, plus the time in your room and usually for the remainder of the night. I'm cheap but I spend on value LOL. This place overall is fun, or a little heaven if you like music and enjoy dancing. Total damage 380 r + 500 r + food + taxi = 1000 r. With all my of my $20 centro pornstar bangs I can afford to spend $200 usd occasionally LOL.

EDEN SPA. Av. Nossa Sra de Copacabana 583, sala 401. I also went to sala 302. Sessioned in both places and very average, both times I didn't get a BBBJ. Girl at 302 said she didn't do that at all, at 401 girl said had a toothache or some BS. So didn't go again. I think they chose and select who to do that for here. Or most guys who get it interview the girls first to ask and the girl would say yes as a condition to be picked. I haven't done this anywhere, which I notice is a thing here in Brazil hence why they have the girls come and introduce themselves one by one, and my entire stay here I never assumed it was for a mini interview. I assume some gringos write that shit in their phone already translated and ask the girl if they suck dick raw, yes or no and if yes they consider picking them. I think the locals do the same based on reviews. Oh well. Pricing 200 r or 180 r for the HR, and 140/170 r for 30 mins didn't recall which one, didn't care since not going back LOL. 5-7 quality.

EURO RIO SPA. Av. Armando Lombardi, 800 - sala 329 - Barra the Tijuca. 1 h 170 r. 30 min 140 r. Great quality 6-8. It's a good thing they open on saturdays, but do yourself a favor and only go during the weekdays normal hours. The girl who opend the door one weekend came in nude, said only herself was avail as a way to earn my biz and I said ok. Then offered anal during the session and I only accepted cause I thought she wanted that. Then at the end she wanted to add an extra 100 r for the anal. I laughed and told her don't try to rob me, you shouldve told me there's a cost. Plus I didn't ask, you asked me as if its something you wanted, it's part of sex and I won't pay extra and was firm. Then she said ok just pay her the 170. She wanted to get more claiming we did 40 minutes when we only did 30. Thing is pricings are already on their site so I didn't ask, and she didn't make me pay first as usual, hence her anal trick lmao. Too bad your boi's a degenerate perv filthy monger and no amateur. I did smash that booty hole hard and she claimed I pounded her hard, even made a gesture of wham wham wham. LOL. So I felt bad and gave her a total of 230 instead of the 270 she wanted. No big deal since was a nice session. Branca, full of tats, nice ass, about 30 yrs old, nice tits.

One of the things I do when I get really freaky and feeling a girl, is that I throw her to the wall at the some point, they immediately stand on tippy toes, my left hand on their waist, right hand grabs the neck, and fuck them from behind on the wall with my nicely curved shaft. The taller they are the better and I go nuts. Wild sex act works well on Brazillian women and they get turned on by it. Usually in the prives that offer a massage first, I usually surprise them by grabbing them to start making out instead of laying down to get a massage first as they ask. They'd fix the bed, grab oil and ask me to lay, and instead I say come here, pulled them toward me while standing and start kissing and immediately start fingering, pussy eating, turn them against the wall for spanking, and they'd start moaning like mmm, mmm, eyes closed. You can tell they love it and they'd ask for more. Sometimes you have to bring it out of them and there's nothing like surprises or being unique to a woman.

THE BEST. Every country or major city I've been to, I always end up discovering a gem, a secret. And my friend here I introduce to you:

CLUB DAS FLORES. Av. Marechal Fontenele, 5625, Realengo, Rio de Janeiro, RJ. 30 min 100 r, 1 h 140 r. I think pricings here slightly vary depending on the girl. Or just like many places, some girls quotes or incl the pricing of an upgraded room. In terms of quality, hands down the BEST of the BEST, cheaper non termas type of club in Rio. Range 5-9's, all complexions, 30+ girls even at 5 am. Not sure if like this at all hours. But go late evenings. This amount of quantity and quality is unheard of anywhere in Rio. The club has tight security at entrance and inside, cheap drinks, pool tables, rooms, sitting area. Girls will make ways to come and talk to you, dance, flirt and go from there. Rooms are ok. Highly recommended but just don't go and ruin this hidden gem that most guys don't write about here. You're welcome my lads.

Visiting few other locations on my way out in the next few days. Quick advice is when you're in town, walking these streets in centro and see a tiny starways with lights, music upstairs, don't hesitate to go up. You may end up finding one of the hundreds of no name clubs (some call trash) where you can meet a nice bunda 9 that you can split in half for $15.Outstanding intel, Mr. MT! If I ever get back to Rio (from PI) I will take advantage of your fine work here. Gostoza!

[D Cups]

Got damn that had to be some banging branca booty hole right there! Nah, there aren't any white girls plying it in Brazil! Not at all! Not ever! Aaahahahaha! Can't wait to get back down there. Well my time is a coming. Big time! Believe this.Never did understand the big ass fetish but then again I get criticized for my addiction to big boobs. To each his own.

[The Critic]

I didn't write a full report during my near 3 Months stay here in Rio, but wanted to share one more update on some spots:Good, detailed report. Useful and actionable information for all members.

[MaddTraveler]

Good, detailed report. Useful and actionable information for all members.I appreciate all the Kudos. I try to contribute when I can. Rio definitely exceeded my expectations. I'm in town for about 8 more days then going to make plan to come back ASAP to explore other areas near Rio and other states. Few locals told me that I must visit these small towns: Buzios, Arraial do cabo, Angra dos Reis, and Paraty. When I glance at the photos they look like mini paradises. Brazil is such a beautiful country with amazing vibe, culture, music, food. Girls are so nice with GFE makes you want to propose, sleep with a smile LOL. Had a session today DFK BBBJ BBFS, she sucked me dry in 69 and still was trying to drink my blood after I had no milk left. When we finished she offered a massage, then offered to take me out to dinner. I said sure "as friends" and she corrected me "as lovers" why not. Man, but no worries I just play along for the moment and the memories.

This is a place to consider long-term or a base for sure, especially in these quiet municipal towns. Hands down one of my best trips.

[Tochka]

Dude solid recommendation on Nina. She is a damn fire cracker! Bel prazer is essy access building. Walked right to the elevators without going to security ID check like 156 branco rio.

Asked Nina to select another amgia garota for our duplo session.

Almost got the forista rate but my gpguia account didn't have up to date reviews there. Still its slightly less expensive than Dudas massage.

Took Nina to VIPs love motel with ocean views and Panda with pool and stripper pole. Nina is damn fun. Why'all book her time after I leave. Haha.

My sessions with her and amiga garotas are three hours back to back.

YMMV your experience may vary, your bel prazer routine may vary, and experience is different. Sharing mine.

[Combo]

I didn't write a full report during my near 3 Months stay here in Rio, but wanted to share one more update on some spots:




CLUB DAS FLORES. Av. Marechal Fontenele, 5625, Realengo, Rio de Janeiro, RJ. 30 min 100 r, 1 h 140 r. I think pricings here slightly vary depending on the girl. Or just like many places, some girls quotes or incl the pricing of an upgraded room. In terms of quality, hands down the BEST of the BEST, cheaper non termas type of club in Rio. Range 5-9's, all complexions, 30+ girls even at 5 am. Not sure if like this at all hours. But go late evenings. This amount of quantity and quality is unheard of anywhere in Rio. The club has tight security at entrance and inside, cheap drinks, pool tables, rooms, sitting area. Girls will make ways to come and talk to you, dance, flirt and go from there. Rooms are ok. Highly recommended but just don't go and ruin this hidden gem that most guys don't write about here. You're welcome my lads.

Visiting few other locations on my way out in the next few days. Quick advice is when you're in town, walking these streets in centro and see a tiny starways with lights, music upstairs, don't hesitate to go up. You may end up finding one of the hundreds of no name clubs (some call trash) where you can meet a nice bunda 9 that you can split in half for $15.Fantastic report. How is the Realengo neighborhood where Club das Flores is located? I'm always a bit hesitant about heading into areas I know nothing about and I've been nowhere near that area.

[MaddTraveler]

Dude solid recommendation on Nina. She is a damn fire cracker! Bel prazer is essy access building. Walked right to the elevators without going to security ID check like 156 branco rio.

Asked Nina to select another amgia garota for our duplo session.

Almost got the forista rate but my gpguia account didn't have up to date reviews there. Still its slightly less expensive than Dudas massage.

Took Nina to VIPs love motel with ocean views and Panda with pool and stripper pole. Nina is damn fun. Why'all book her time after I leave. Haha.

My sessions with her and amiga garotas are three hours back to back.

YMMV your experience may vary, your bel prazer routine may vary, and experience is different. Sharing mine.I know who Nina is and didn't session with her. The one in my reference was Mia LOL. Short hair branca, slighly thic and nicely shaped body and rear end. Both girls are hot. The one thing I haven't done is a duplo session, I don't know why I haven't.

[MaddTraveler]

Fantastic report. How is the Realengo neighborhood where Club das Flores is located? I'm always a bit hesitant about heading into areas I know nothing about and I've been nowhere near that area.It's actually a very nice neighborhood, west side of Rio, flat surface and not a favela or anything. Considered to be a low mid-class town.

The front of the club is well lighted and you could easily walk nearby even at 5 am. A block away from it is another club called Babylon, which I heard great things about, fewer girls but didn't get the chance to go in that one yet. As I was leaving in my Uber and I was looking around and said to myself I wouldn't mind an airbnb close to here for few days in a future trip.

[Turgid]

Never did understand the big ass fetish but then again I get criticized for my addiction to big boobs. To each his own.Big bundas in Brazil is a sign of African ancestry in spite of skin color. A Brazilian once told me that if you shake the family tree of many 'white' Brazilians a lot of black fruit will fall. I don't like them too big like that but I do like them rotund.

[The Cane]

Big bundas in Brazil is a sign of African ancestry in spite of skin color. A Brazilian once told me that if you shake the family tree of many 'white' Brazilians a lot of black fruit will fall. I don't like them too big like that but I do like them rotund.So what accounts for Alexis Texas' big round butt then, and other American white girls like her? A white chick can't have a big ass unless she has some African ancestry? Or somehow what you say only mysteriously applies to Brazilian white girls and the answer is something totally different for North American white girls? I say without any proof regarding anyone's ancestry this is just a bunch of surmise based on nothing but speculation. Which isn't the same thing as proof. What you happen to believe and evidence are two different things.

[Turgid]

So what accounts for Alexis Texas' big round butt then, and other American white girls like her? A white chick can't have a big ass unless she has some African ancestry? Or somehow what you say only mysteriously applies to Brazilian white girls and the answer is something totally different for North American white girls? I say without any proof regarding anyone's ancestry this is just a bunch of surmise based on nothing but speculation. Which isn't the same thing as proof. What you happen to believe and evidence are two different things.Cool down Cane, why so angry? Nothing wrong with banging hot white chicks with African antecedents. I do it all the time, and as Maxwell Smart used to say - 'and loving it'. LOL.

[The Cane]

Cool down Cane, why so angry? Nothing wrong with banging hot white chicks with African antecedents. I do it all the time, and as Maxwell Smart used to say - 'and loving it'. LOL.I am cool. And nobody said anything was wrong with it. And I note you didn't answer the question. Tired of over generalizations based on what you "think" you know when you actually don't know anything factual about these people's ancestry. Nothing.

[Tochka]

Well another Sunday afternoon in botafogo Panda with three sexy muluta Meghan Markel Larinha Smalls types garotas from Bel Prazer, Eden Spa and Termas Monte Carlos. In Panda the Myknos and Presidential suites sport an indoor private pool.

The uber ride from Centro to Panda Botafogo was a unique first for me. Probably happens all the time to you brasil veterans but I was amazed to be picked up by hot garota de programme GDP Uber driver.

An outstanding beautiful, sundrenched tanned blonde wearing a bright luminous red bikini. Sheetz ifirst thought she's a trap car don't get in.

I double checked everything matched the uber app and said fuck it before hoping in for the brief 15 min Sunday afternoon ride. Wow I was hoping like hell we run into traffic.

She smelled sexy good, great conversation. Confirmed she works in one of the termas. We never session though. I gave her five stars and a tip.

Damn where to selectb the Uber + Branca Loria service in future. Haha only in Brasil a GDP as uber driver.

YMMV your uber experience may vary, your Sunday routine may vary, and experience is different. Sharing mine.

[Combo]

It's actually a very nice neighborhood, west side of Rio, flat surface and not a favela or anything. Considered to be a low mid-class town.

The front of the club is well lighted and you could easily walk nearby even at 5 am. A block away from it is another club called Babylon, which I heard great things about, fewer girls but didn't get the chance to go in that one yet. As I was leaving in my Uber and I was looking around and said to myself I wouldn't mind an airbnb close to here for few days in a future trip.Interesting. I saw it looked close to Bangu (supposedly a very bad area) on the map which made me think it would be dangerous. But I guess Rocinha and Vidigal are close to Ipanema (real close!). So can't judge by that.

[Vagabundo1]

Did you get her whatsapp number?

That would be the first thing that former Lieutenant Commander Vagabundo, Swiss navy, would have done.

Here are your lines in a uber.

Voce carioca the gema? (are you a authentic Rio de Janeiro native?

She says yes, sim.

You say, eu sou carioca do fake or eu sou carioca do falsa.

She laughs.

You stick your phone in her face, or you ask and put down her number.

Now, in Brazil car sex is a big part of the culture.

Now you call that hoar driver and haver take ya to praia abrico and on the way in and out you get a little in and out and swing know what I mean.

Well played.


Well anlother Sunday afternoon in botafogo Panda with three sexy muluta Meghan Markel Larinha Smalls types garotas from Bel Prazer, Eden Spa and Termas Monte Carlos. In Panda the Myknos and Presidential suites sport an indoor private pool.

The uber ride from Centro to Panda Botafogo was a unique first for me. Probably happens all the time to you brasil veterans but I was amazed to be picked up by hot garota de programme GDP Uber driver.

An outstanding beautiful, sundrenched tanned blonde wearing a bright luminous red bikini. Sheetz ifirst thought she's a trap car don't get in.

I double checked everything matched the uber app and said fuck it before hoping in for the brief 15 min Sunday afternoon ride. Wow I was hoping like hell we run into traffic.

[Tochka]

Did you get her whatsapp number?

That would be the first thing that former Lieutenant Commander Vagabundo, Swiss navy, would have done.

Here are your lines in a uber.

Voce carioca the gema? (are you a authentic Rio de Janeiro native?

She says yes, sim.

You say, eu sou carioca do fake or eu sou carioca do falsa.

She laughs.

You stick your phone in her face, or you ask and put down her number.

Now, in Brazil car sex is a big part of the culture.

Now you call that hoar driver and haver take ya to praia abrico and on the way in and out you get a little in and out and swing know what I mean.

Well played.That is a brilliant funny pickup line Rsrs definitely will use in the future. Yes sir! Got her wassap to chat and meetup outside of uber driving. I didn't mess around when she was in uber driving mode. They have all those safety protocols to ban idiot passengers with female drivers. I prefer not get kicked off the platform.

I checked my rating last month only to find eleven one star uber ratings, eleven 1* stars from drivers. WTF couldn't believe it until remembered those DR chicas.

I used call an uber car or uber moto to drop her ass off someplace close to metro or in her neighborhood. Damn chicas act a fool in uber car with her amigas chicas, drunk, loud and stupid. The driver runs out of patience, gives the ride one star * lesson learned no more chicas or garotas riding on my uber tab.

[Vagabundo1]

So, the names of the guilty party will be redacted to avoid any repurcussioins.

Vagabundo gets to at velha. Havana, Velha Havana, after a nice ride on the luxury bus. That much is fine. Good internet. Good call for work as a lawyer back in Switzerland. Thank god and praise allah that people are always fucking over other people and they need good voodoo educated lawyers who speak Romanch German French and Italian to unfuck or fuck over the guilty parties. Call goes well. AI is going to change discovery.

Vagabundo marks via zap for a session with a provider in a centro prive who barebacks for 50 r more.

He stows his extra gear in a locker which he rents for 100 r. Jimmy Boy will remember the Brazilian captain who recommended this sweet spot near Praca Maua, the museums there, and pedra do sol. He puts on sandals with velcro straps because he is a gear snob or gear fag as his mates in the swiss naval infantry used to call him due to all the gear, which is probably due to all the firefights with those dirty italian bastards not to mention a tour in the middle east supporting the Great Satan, Uncle Sam, in one of those expeditions to whack terrorists.

So anyway, get get into the room at the prive. And the *****, the hoar, the ****, the kunt, the stupid fucking brazilian broad -- lets see how much of that gets censored -- immediately goes into setenta reias mais for sem camisinha. And I am like, I already paid you 50 reais extra over the house fee. I put on Felipe Ret Revel as I usually do.

So in my brain which is connected to my hard dick which is in her pussy, I am translating shut the fuck up into portoguese, and her fucking mouth, which I am trying to kiss for deep french kissing keeps moving.

And this is why God and some sadist invented gags. To shut women up, lay there and get fucked, for the whole hour.

And then she is like bare back anal for 100 reais. So, I already paid her 50 extra, so I am like so 50 more, and she is saying 100 more. And I am saying no, 50 more.

What part of shut the fuck up do you not understand?

She takes me dick out of her pussy, which is a nice wet hot creamy pussy, and she starts to put it in her ass. Not that I really want to sodomize her anus. I generally like pussy better. Nice hot Latina 20 - 25 or even 20-30 year old pussy. But OK, I don't care about an extra 50. It is 10 dollars.

But then she takes my dick out of her pussy and puts it in her ass with some pain evidently by the look on her face. I am a mild sadist but I don't like to actually hurt women, and I certainly don't like causing pain by fucking a woman up the ass, so then she is like goza, cum. And I am like, relax, shut the fuck up, and stop trying to say now I am in debt to you for another 100 reais. I say something like Eu nao quero briga do dinheiro, and I certainly do not want to argue about money during sex. I just got off a internet call with a law firm in Lugano, Switzerland and some database provider about money, money, money, and I do not want to argue with a kunt about money, now while my dick is in your bare pussy.

But, she has a kid, and 50 reais is enough for her to not shut the fuck up. So, I lose my wood. It is the pain on her face. And it is the arguing over money.

Maybe I was dehydrated, or ate too much for breakfast -- the omlette and pao do quicho and toast at Velha havana, where I stowed my solomon trekking boots and laptop in the whiskey locker. But probably not, as just yesterday, I had a great session at another centro prive with Nani at Bel Prazer, all covered, wherein I fucked for a whole hour almost, with a condom on. Nani is Jimmy Boy approved, too. Nice hot little morena clara, a white girl or as white as it gets in South America, not white like my long blood line of Germanic Swiss princes and kings from Salzburg, from where my sainted mother a ex nun escaped with a Austrian navy captain during some world war last century, the details escape me but some of you will get the cinematic literary references.

I digress.

As I often do.

So, there I am, half way (20 minutes) through Felipe Ret' album, Revel. Which is so good that every Carioca I fuck loves it, shuts the fuck up, and lets me slide my bratwurst into her split fig of a vagina with not a word, just an extra 50 reais usually and plenty of lube, sometimes the sex toys (which nani loves, she squirts and cums and making a girl cum is itself a good thing, more on that, below).

So Vagabundo is 20 minutes through a session with a limp dick. I lose my wood because the kunt hoar would not shut the fuck up and let me fuck her perfectly nice pussy and begged for me to fuck her ass, then showed obvious pain but at the same time, said something about wanting more money, and at the same time said don't lube up my holes more because I am allergic to lube. WTF, over? Now, I have my dick in your ass, your face looks like I am shoving a broom stick up your ass and hammering it in with a sledgehammer, and you are asking me for money at the same time. Could I not just stick a gag in your mouth tie you up with the boxing wraps I keep in my chest pack because they double as bandages and hand protection for my muay thai later today, could you not just shut your stupid female mouth?

Civilization has declined precisely when men taught women to write read and speak. I am convinced.

So, I tell the kunt to chupa meu piroca.

I say it with some impatiance and she says, Oh you don't have patience. Vc nao ten pacienca?

I roll my eyes, I must give her vibes of perfect disdain. I try to ignore everything except for my finger up her ass, and eventually, even after Revel (40 minutes) ends, I get wood, I bend her over, I fuck her kunt, which is nice and smooth and hot, and I blow a big load between her legs or on her ass. I clean up, I give her 50 more, for a total of 250, and I vow never to repeat with her even though I can fuck her ass bare on command. Maybe if I can ball gag her so she will shut the fuck up first. No, not even that.

OK, now that I have purged my brain of this horrible fuck, I will move on.

On the upside, over the last few weeks, I have been averaging 1. 2 hours to. 5 hour of actual penis in vagina fucking per day with all the usual suspects, bare fucking an extension of jiu jitsu and muay thai, the hour long sessions twice weekly definitely improve my stamina, not the least of which because I like the runners high of workouts more than the high from cannibis or alcohol.

So it goes.

[Travel980]

First off, thanks to all on this board for all of the detailed posts and information. I've been a lurker on these boards during my travels as usually you can only pick up a little information, and I don't typically do much so I wouldn't have much to share. This board is different.

I'm arriving in Copa on Sunday and staying for a few days. This is a business trip with frequent interactions with several coworkers, so my interest will be discretion. I've studied the boards and think I'm prepared (I'm probably not), but I did have one last question I hadn't seen.

Is there any preference for USA Cash vs local currency? I've been to a few areas where the dollar went further than the local notes, and you lose some in the transition anyway. I know to use an ATM and decline the conversion, but before I do that I thought I would ask. Are dollars useful in Copa??

[Steve 9696]

First off, thanks to all on this board for all of the detailed posts and information. I've been a lurker on these boards during my travels as usually you can only pick up a little information, and I don't typically do much so I wouldn't have much to share. This board is different.

I'm arriving in Copa on Sunday and staying for a few days. This is a business trip with frequent interactions with several coworkers, so my interest will be discretion. I've studied the boards and think I'm prepared (I'm probably not), but I did have one last question I hadn't seen.

Is there any preference for USA Cash vs local currency? I've been to a few areas where the dollar went further than the local notes, and you lose some in the transition anyway. I know to use an ATM and decline the conversion, but before I do that I thought I would ask. Are dollars useful in Copa??No. Everything is in R and they consider $$ just a pain because they have to pay exchange fee. Buenos Aires is only place I've been where girls want $.

And yes ATM and decline is best rate but be forewarned most hotels don't have ATM and you don't want to get money at night really. Try to get Bradesco during day.

[One Eyed Man]

No. Everything is in R and they consider $$ just a pain because they have to pay exchange fee. Buenos Aires is only place I've been where girls want $.

And yes ATM and decline is best rate but be forewarned most hotels don't have ATM and you don't want to get money at night really. Try to get Bradesco during day.Yesterday the dang Bradesco ATM flashed a screen that specified a 12% conversion fee (on $100)! I almost accepted it because I wasn't paying close attention.

[Tochka]

On Saturday went to Eden Spa Copacabana. Eden is listed in Google Maps with directions.

Next to Eden Spa, the Bradesco Banc has an ATM lobby open on Saturday at 6. 30 pm to use the ATM. Its in front of the bus stop, bunch a sketchy folks around.

Head on a swivel and don't use it late at night.

Entering the building is easy peasy, lemon squeezy. Up the elevator, room 401. Rang the buzzer. She half-ass welcomed me in WTF. I was slightly tipsy from earlier days drinking at Centro Dudas and Bel Praser, got to hit those spots early because they open at 9 am and close up by 1 pm or 2 pm on Saturday. Eden stays open later to 6 pm. I book in advance Jenifer and Lily for a threesome, four hands duplo session. That's a Good price $350 are for one hour, two chicas. Damn good price. Still, I asked for a forista discount. She said it's already discounted when a single garota is are $220 are. I showed the gpguia review. Nope, no dice. Fine, let's go. The rooms are small, with a shared bathroom like, Darkroom. Yeah, the sliding doors. The calls of "client coming through the hallway " reminded me of the darkroom.

For some odd reason, the receptionist and I didn't click on the same vibe. Paid in advance. It felt like the cold shoulder receptionist at Abbbora Clinica in SP.

The shower was quick, bringing all valuables into the shower room. Made my way back to the room.

I turned on music Filipe het, old school from back in the day when he was skinny singing about distant shores We only need us. It's the filipe het the music we played during barbecues back in the day.

In the bag, time to bring out a couple of ice-cold hedegebull Zero (redbull) cold Smirnoff ice, and good weed but there are no windows in the stupid room. A few cold stellas. Jenifer and I are rocking it in the room. She is an experienced playa. Gets the program. Young ass Lily's catching up. She is a third wheel. Half a mind to release her early. She trying her best though.

Session ends. Both are booked by other clients for the next hour. Oh well.

I went to reception to ask for a presentation. Sat in the small room in front of the fridge.

The first gal comes in **Boom ** everything changed. It's my gal from bel prazer, genuine hugs, it's been a few weeks, and she lost her phone, damn I am feeling better, we catch up talking, next Garota **Bang** she's from Dudas. Well Hello, dear! Third one from 156 Branco Rio. Now time to party for the next two hours.

The receptionist's attitude completely flipped once she saw the garotas in the lineup knew me. It was a completely different level of service.

I went with two of my favorites into the same room. This time blasted fucking music, smooke weed, drank, sport fuck, deepthroat, leche swallow, lesbian porno licking, they pull out their weird ass sex toys from Centro sex shop, multi deepthroat spray, strawberry lickables. Damn, Brasilia Garotas know the IoP playbook. Pop open their phones to show their private amateur sex videos on the privacy app. Two hours later it's closing time. 6 pm, exhausted, we are spent, half drunk, and got the munchies. Let's go eat at the Japanese buffet place nearby in Botafogo. Cool.

I gave them a nice tip in cash, no pix, I don't use pix will block ya ass at the first wassap pix message. Good time had by all.

YMMV your Eden room experience will be different, the garotas experience might be different, and the attitude of garotas and reception might be different. The evening Bradesco Banc ATM evening hours might be different from my Saturday evening experience. YMMV as repeat client or first timer, or if you have no Brasilia portugus to chat and be. S. With the garotas. Only sharing my experience.

[TravelerXX]

What are, in your opinion, the best 5 or 10 private establishments in SP?

I enjoy a nice private casa, low pressure to choose, ability to hang out with the ladies and others on site. Amd eventually go your route.

I enjoy anything else particularly nice.

LI do like Casarao. Cafe photo and Scandallo are amazing, but expensive. It's worth it from time to time but risky given the cost.

What advice can you give me? Places to go? Ladies to see?

Thanks in advance and always report back!

[Xpartan]

On Saturday went to Eden Spa Copacabana. Eden is listed in Google Maps with directions.

Next to Eden Spa, the Bradesco Banc has an ATM lobby open on Saturday at 6. 30 pm to use the ATM. Its in front of the bus stop, bunch a sketchy folks around.

Head on a swivel and don't use it late at night.

Entering the building is easy peasy, lemon squeezy. Up the elevator, room 401. Rang the buzzer. She half-ass welcomed me in WTF. I was slightly tipsy from earlier days drinking at Centro Dudas and Bel Praser, got to hit those spots early because they open at 9 am and close up by 1 pm or 2 pm on Saturday. Eden stays open later to 6 pm. I book in advance Jenifer and Lily for a threesome, four hands duplo session. That's a Good price $350 are for one hour, two chicas. Damn good price. Still, I asked for a forista discount. She said it's already discounted when a single garota is are $220 are. I showed the gpguia review. Nope, no dice. Fine, let's go. The rooms are small, with a shared bathroom like, Darkroom. They have one large room at Eden. Better ask for it at the time you make a booking.

[Evac305]

What time would you suggest is best to visit das Flores.




CLUB DAS FLORES. Av. Marechal Fontenele, 5625, Realengo, Rio de Janeiro, RJ. 30 min 100 r, 1 h 140 r. I think pricings here slightly vary depending on the girl. Or just like many places, some girls quotes or incl the pricing of an upgraded room. In terms of quality, hands down the BEST of the BEST, cheaper non termas type of club in Rio. Range 5-9's, all complexions, 30+ girls even at 5 am. Not sure if like this at all hours. But go late evenings. This amount of quantity and quality is unheard of anywhere in Rio. The club has tight security at entrance and inside, cheap drinks, pool tables, rooms, sitting area. Girls will make ways to come and talk to you, dance, flirt and go from there. Rooms are ok. Highly recommended but just don't go and ruin this hidden gem that most guys don't write about here. You're welcome my lads.

Visiting few other locations on my way out in the next few days. Quick advice is when you're in town, walking these streets in centro and see a tiny starways with lights, music upstairs, don't hesitate to go up. You may end up finding one of the hundreds of no name clubs (some call trash) where you can meet a nice bunda 9 that you can split in half for $15.

[Rio Bob]

Is there any preference for USA Cash vs local currency? I've been to a few areas where the dollar went further than the local notes, and you lose some in the transition anyway. I know to use an ATM and decline the conversion, but before I do that I thought I would ask. Are dollars useful in Copa??If you're bringing cash exchange your money at a 'Cambio' not in your hotel, I know everybody knows this but a few years ago I gave a girl a $100 bill and told her it's equal to 500 reais, next day she called me to complain she got much less, she exchanged in a hotel not a cambio. If you don't know any there's an American on Rua Xavier da Silvieira 15 called Blame it on Rio for travel, his name is Bobby, tell him Bobby sent you LOL. Last time I was there I exchanged $1,000 and asked for a better rate and they finally gave in for this larger amount, they may not discount for a few hundred. You can even rent a bike and get your clothes washed there among other things.

[The Cane]

If you're bringing cash exchange your money at a 'Cambio' not in your hotel, I know everybody knows this but a few years ago I gave a girl a $100 bill and told her it's equal to 500 reais, next day she called me to complain she got much less, she exchanged in a hotel not a cambio. If you don't know any there's an American on Rua Xavier da Silvieira 15 called Blame it on Rio for travel, his name is Bobby, tell him Bobby sent you LOL. Last time I was there I exchanged $1,000 and asked for a better rate and they finally gave in for this larger amount, they may not discount for a few hundred. You can even rent a bike and get your clothes washed there among other things.I never exchanged money with Bobby because he always gave a bad rate. He tries to act like he's everyone's friend, then dicks you over on his rates! Then he had the gaul to come begging for money when his place got robbed (twice). There used to be a cambio right across the street that was much better and gave a fair rate (I don't know if it's still there). Blame it on Rio? No, blame it on yourself if you do business with Bobby and get a bad rate! These days I don't travel with lots of cash. It's pulling money out of an ATM as I need it, which is better than handling large sums of cash. Especially since my bank refunds all ATM transaction fees, foreign and domestic. No Bobby and no ATM fees LOL!

[The Critic]

These days I don't travel with lots of cash. It's pulling money out of an ATM as I need it, which is better than handling large sums of cash. Especially since my bank refunds all ATM transaction fees, foreign and domestic. No Bobby and no ATM fees LOL!I agree, I get what I need from the ATM when needed.

I never paid much attention to the rate that was given when I used the ATM. So, the question is do you usually get better rate from ATM or Cambio exchange? What rates are the Bank ATMS giving in relation to the XE app rate?

[Xpartan]

I agree, I get what I need from the ATM when needed.

I never paid much attention to the rate that was given when I used the ATM. So, the question is do you usually get better rate from ATM or Cambio exchange? What rates are the Bank ATMS giving in relation to the XE app rate?As long as you don't pay ATM fees or get credited for pulling cash, it will usually beat cambios even if slightly. That said, some cambios offer excellent rates that can easily compete with ATMs for new, crispy Benjamins when you exchange a lot. I use both methods as some ATMs have maddeningly low withdrawal limits.

[The Cane]

As long as you don't pay ATM fees or get credited for pulling cash, it will usually beat cambios even if slightly. That said, some cambios offer excellent rates that can easily compete with ATMs for new, crispy Benjamins when you exchange a lot. I use both methods as some ATMs have maddeningly low withdrawal limits.In Brazil Bradesco works for me in terms of being to pull what I need.

[Rio Bob]

I never exchanged money with Bobby because he always gave a bad rate. He tries to act like he's everyone's friend, then dicks you over on his rates! Then he had the gaul to come begging for money when his place got robbed (twice). There used to be a cambio right across the street that was much better and gave a fair rate (I don't know if it's still there). Blame it on Rio? No, blame it on yourself if you do business with Bobby and get a bad rate! These days I don't travel with lots of cash. It's pulling money out of an ATM as I need it, which is better than handling large sums of cash. Especially since my bank refunds all ATM transaction fees, foreign and domestic. No Bobby and no ATM fees LOL!Bobby's is always my last stop, I went to the one across the street and he wouldn't budge for ten crisp Benjamin's with the blue stripe on it, without it you get less. So I went across the street and Bobby's employee gave me slightly better.

[Bravo]

I agree, I get what I need from the ATM when needed.

I never paid much attention to the rate that was given when I used the ATM. So, the question is do you usually get better rate from ATM or Cambio exchange? What rates are the Bank ATMS giving in relation to the XE app rate?I remember back in 2003 or 2004 when the official rate was like 3. 96 but NONE of the fucking cambios would give you anything over 3. 50 R. For 2 years I had no choice but to use the Citibank ATMs in order to get the 3. 96 R. Now a days, you have to go to multiple cambios to see who has the best rate. I admit, it can be a pain in the ass to waste a couple of hours going from spot to spot to get an extra 3 cents. A fellow board member turned me on to Universal Cambio on Nossa Senhora (Near Copa Palace) about 3 years ago and I haven't been to a different cambio since. They consistently beat all the other cambios and I stick with them.

On a side note: I do notice that the cambios on the Club Help side of Copa usually give lower rates versus the cambios near the Copa Palace side of Copa. Not sure why.

[Pahllus Maximus]

The dollar is on a roll! Roughly:

THB 1000=USD 27 - expect to pay THB 1. 5 -3 k depending on time, quality etc.

BRL=USD 18 - ranges BRL 60 for barnyard rutting in a skanky cabin to BRL 400+ for marked up clubs / ripoff, but reliable stuff in decent surrounds for BRL 200.

Asia has lost its charm and is a wickedly long trip and time zone shift. There are flights from Europe to RIO / SP, such as Air Europa from Spain, TAP from Portugal, Air France and so on with 8 hour shift, and from the east coast Rio is a no brainer, especially for Atlanta and Miami.

Brasil has good investment opportunities and represents excellent value in medical tourism, high quality food and it is possible to find nice, clean beach towns at great prices once you skip Buzios and the touristy places. I have an awesome fly in / out routine from Long island Railroad- JFK - Rio, have a driver waiting to pick me up and dinner waiting with two regulars (zero games, discreet and non-transactional) who know my tastes, especially a morning coffee, BJ, two girls, balls gently fondled simultaneously and DFK kissing which they take turns swallowing me, heavy load down their throat (no spitting) followed by good, firm massage, a kiss and cuddle, and then a swim at the beach (hand in hand with two giggling and happy girls) and a good home breakfast. Because this is how life should be. I even take them with me up country, they carry thigh high fish nets, heels, frilly chemise, G-strings, feathers, blindfolds etc. Once when going through security, a dildo triggered a manual search. The female guard saw to travel kit and just laughed, smiled and winked at us, then we all laughed, made the trip so much fun. I LOVE this place.

[Vagabundo1]

Vagabundo hit Laura at Darkroom today for a solid 45 minutes of fucking and sucking, all covered. Vagabundo headed into centro on a metro, got some skyn condoms. It was a fun session all around, starting with 69, and then fucking in frango assado (her ass on a pillow, her pussy turned up to be ploughed). She vibed her clit and came. Vagabundo, being cruel, continued to plough her, and flipped her around for doggy style. He wrapped a towel around her waist, fucked her hard, spanked her ass with baby oil on it, loudly, which is a necessary thing for respect among the local fuckers and hoars, who like that kind of thing. She pleaded for a rest, and being magnanimous, Vagabundo granted a reprieve, for her to piss. She came back, and sucked, and 69 ed a little more to give her kunt some recovery, and then Vagabundo fucked her again in two positions, finally filling up the condom in doggy style. A good fuck. Felipe Ret, Revel was played throughout.

Yesterday, Vagabundo chronicled thusly on the local whatsapp group, where new nobleman fkers from the rich world have joined:

Vagabundo hit a hoar raw for 35 minutes in centro. Said nasty things like imma take you to swing and nude beach and bang you in public, and doncha want to fist that other girl. Ran out of batteries in the pink vibe jimmy boy took down to me. Lesson learned: always charge your USB vibe and carry recharge cable for your vibes. Romance.

That said, sex is not love. Marquez in Memories of my Melancholy hoars addresses this by saying something like you should not miss the experience of fking with love. The women that Vagabundo has loved this year are flying away, Eastbound, and he is sharpened both by their sadness of their loss and by happiness at having met them at least once, once here at the love shack, on the big sofa, 69 ing sweet blond nordic bundinha and buceta, and dancing for juninha with a Russian grinding on the most beautiful Carioca Morena, all English speaking, all with real lives, real careers, real futures -- reality which has inspired some of the local girls to step up their game and impress Vagabundo, who though cruel, is a ruler who wishes his women to become their best selves. Tomorrow, Amber Lynn's bare kunt with be spread, speared and spermed deep by Vagabundo, or perhaps it will be another lass, alas.

So it goes.

[Turgid]

The dollar is on a roll! Roughly:

THB 1000=USD 27 - expect to pay THB 1. 5 -3 k depending on time, quality etc.

BRL=USD 18 - ranges BRL 60 for barnyard rutting in a skanky cabin to BRL 400+ for marked up clubs / ripoff, but reliable stuff in decent surrounds for BRL 200........Bangkok vs Rio? The million dollar question of the ages.

The one advantage I would say Asia has over Latin America is the ability of getting girls who would stay with you long time and clean your apartment and cook for you.

[Tochka]

Walked a few minutes from my Airbnb spot which is one or two blocks from Quartel General the Polcia Militar do Estado in centro to visit Darkroom early afternoon. There is a talented, hardworking barbershop three doors down from the entrance of Edificio Patrimnio. Since the barbershop is nearest to Darkroom and it's open Saturday afternoons I stop by there to get a shapeup and smell barber clean fresh.

I keep my haircut photos on the phone to show barbers the style I like. One of the best experiences I had was at a moreno run barbershop in SP Moema on Miruna and Alameda.

The bros had their guitars, drums, and instruments in the shop. It was cool to hear the whole shop breakout rapping to Sabotage, Philipe Ret, and Delacruz while getting a bald drop fade with shape up.

Thanks to Vagabundo for several reports on the Darkroom penthouse.

The team lineup has so many young Negra and Morena beauties, offering all holes. They do whatever you want to invent, insert toys, dildos, fists, and other garotas tongues.

I did recoil slightly when a Garota accidentally puked on the other Garota's mouth while deepthroating and ball-licking at the same time. A stupid argument ensued about where she should puke next time. Haha, kkk. Now I grab the small bucket to place next to the bed.

Shit still cannot figure out why this one Garota, the Branca one that has a trans look to my admittedly poor eyes, enters the room to swipe my fucking shoes, prances around in the place wearing my shoes like she is a girlie wearing daddy big shoes or something. Weird.

Bel Prazer, dudas, and Centro places close up early Saturday afternoon so I'm headed to Eden. Going to enjoy a late afternoon session with Jennifer and Andressa taking turns sloppy deepthroating down to the balls. Got the multi garganta Profundaa spray, a whole pack of lenco wipes, red bull zero, cold Smirnoff ice, and some decent-ass marolar -Alexa turn on the air. Kkk haha sounds better in the song. Thanks for Good advice to schedule the bigger room in Eden.

I will travel to SDU to CGH Sao Paulo on Sunday to hit the Sunday Moema clinicas open every day including Prime, Miruna. Tangara does a bbq Sunday afternoon at the downstairs bar. I prefer to visit Scandallo Mon. & Tues nights.

As always YMMV your experience with Centro massages, darkroom, Dudas, Eden, and SP weekends, sundays will be different from mine. I like to roll my own way, go ahead roll your own. I buy a bunch of Inexpensive roundtrip tickets SDU to CGH for $66 to $100 bucks way in advance. Change the ticket date, departure time to whenever. . the fuck ready. I bounce around between SP and Rio on a whim or whichever deepthroat garota with rent due is sending pix message. My canned response is same, though yours might be different.

Sweetie I got a large pene pix my pau is measured in pix. Its ready for you to suck on to earn some pix. The deeper the throat the more the pix, the tip gets you no pix, mid sucking halfway gets mas o menos pix, deep to the balls for max pix. Leche swallow is included minus pix for spitting or any leche missed.

Damn, my wasssp Brasilian garotas rip the fuckin pants off to plunge deeply, attack mode no gagging for max pix. Impaling themselves, doing entire deep throat while trying pushing both balls in with dick to go past the max for pix. Haha reminder YMMV this is my experience. Pix request always seem to come eventually with the garotas I know.

[Tochka]

Another quickie visit to Eden before going to Panda. Shoutout to ShinyCrazy, MaddTraveler, Vagbundo, and Tribute15, as must-read reports on Eden. Guys, it is easy to follow, google searchable directions, a website with garotas pics, there's a report with photo of the door 401 entrance, all prices posted on wassap, the Eden garotas names on website with reviews here in ISG and on gpguia, don't know why mofos PM about Eden.

It is an easy two-block walk from the high-rise Airbnb in Copa. scheduled an early afternoon visit lining up four garotas. Two garotas for one hour is R350 reais 70 bucks, two twenty-year-old chicas sucking dick for an hour and swallowing the load. First stopped by the Bradesco ATM next door to Eden, in front of the bus stop to get some cash, next up the supermarket around the corner to buy cold redbull Zero, Smirnoff-ice, and a smooth, wood flavored twenty-year-old whiskey to go with the twenty-year-old puterias. Hahah.

Yes Eden has a fridge selling drinks. I sit in that room glancing in the fridge between Garota presentations. I bring the drinks with slamming Spotify music garotas bring the good weed.or they better have some good weed.

Made an appointment for two different hands-four hand sessions with Lily, Isis, Andressa, and ever popular Jennifer. Thanks for the tip to schedule the bigger Eden room.

Dudes, all their photos are on the Eden website for you horn dogs that PM asking about names and photos.

All four Chicas do whatever floats your boat on the brasil fantasy bucket list, no holes are barred, anal, CIM, lesbi, sex toys, cum swapping, ATM, dom / sub.

Whatever you fucking deviants can think of to do with the submissive bodies of pretty young morena mulata asses. They do it all and more.

Andressa and Jenniffer, are repeat deepthroaters with leche swallow and ATM. Lily and Isis still have limits, and work better in duplos.

don't know about others fellas but my TD details with each chica, garotas are posted in gp-guia not so much ISG.

The clinicas, Massagem, Prives give a fucking nice discount for recent reviews of the garotas. With the Forista discount, while paying cash, the four-hour sessions with four chicas is much less than one hour scandallo garota.

Besides already wrote how after while started to see Monte Carlo, solarium, 4 x4, centaurs, prime, tangara, vani, abbobora, enjoy, Red, Espao Vergueiro, connection garotas do the Scandallo circuit asking double and triple the Clinica price.

I told skinny pale white beauty Lily in Scandallo WTF to pay your asking price are $1000 to are $1500 reais now Because its Scandallo. I'm going to see your attractive skinny fine ass, with those doe eyes, salvia slurping on my dick tomorrow in the clinica for $190 reais. Of course she did just that the next day.

Speaking of specials In the DR hoarhouse GBP. They have a 2 x1 oferta special, get two chicas, for $50 bucks or 3000 pesos for one hour in the filthy room. The large room has a nasty ass barbershop chair.

YMMV your experience may vary, and your lineup of presentations may vary you might not get a forista discount on first visit. Or sometimes they have a bakers dozen like in Spa Moah using a card with each visit. Or price different credito, debito, dinheiro cash for the discount.

[Vagabundo1]

Cervantes.

This is for you cartman.

[One Eyed Man]

I just spent a week in Rio. Not my first trip, so I did mostly favorite things.

Non-mongering observations:

Most Brazilians tap debit cards now, so you need to carry less cash. (I tried to buy some cough drops at the So Paulo airport with cash, and they looked at me like a wanted to hand them a dead fish.).

Uber is cheaper than taxis. Galeo airport has a dedicated Uber pickup area, with color-coded pickup zones.

I stayed at the Pestana and liked it better than last time. Downside: it's a bit of a hike from the subway.

My favorite juice bar is Big Bi on Siquera Campos.

There were many Pratos Executivos for as low as are $25 at the beach restaurants, which is like US $5. A steak skewer on the promenade cost me are $13, though.

I hadn't yet gotten the lay of the land, and the hotel concierge doesn't eat at restaurants, so he sent me to Boteco Belmonte. It was a fine, high-quaity place for Brazilian tourists. A "medium" pizza was the size of a large (with no tomato sauce.) The best thing was the guys who came around with different kinds of appetizers: sausages and pasteis. I'lll save room for that next time. Later I found a locals' place to the left of the Pestana.

I got a transport card, but you have to use the high scanner to enter the subway.

Santander didn't accept my ATM card, but the ATMs near Siquera Campos were fine.

I had the privilege of meeting Vagabundo, but we weren't able to connect for mongering.

Mongering:

NS de Copa 583 #302 on the third floor of that notorious building. I chose Duda, a cute petite morena. Solid service, but was offered a CBJ.

Maite Braga. She advertises on photoacompanhantes and shows a huge clitoris, which I wanted to experience. She was easy to schedule and has a place in an office building next to the square Praa General Osrio in Ipanema. When you enter, there's a mattress in the front room and a massage table in the right back room; the place is a little messy and shabby. The photos are accurate, and she is very thin with natural breasts. She starts with a weak back massage using an enormous amount of lotion. After the flip, I ask to go down on her, and this clit is like a huge lumpshe didn't do anything to uncover or show it, but she seems to warm up a little after being a bit stiff in the beginning. She then asks, "Would you like sexy" Yes, I would. She then puts a condom on me that has the consistency of sandpaper (bring your own boys!) This is so uncomfortable that I had her finish me off by hand. It was out of curiosity, but I wouldn't go back.

Darkroom. This place is in an add-on floor on the 21st floor of an office building. You need to show ID to receive a card to go through the turnstile. There is a "bar" area, where the girls hang out, but it is very spartan. I sessioned with Laura (who is mentioned elsewhere here), a pretty light-skinned morena, the best looking by far when I was there. Great service and aims to please. She was the only one who appealed to me the two times I was there. There was a tall, full-figured blonde there who kept her street clothes on. From the website, it looks like Yasmim, who was described by Tochka as a trans branca. I cracked up when Laura bumped into a bookcase in the hallway, and a bunch of double-headed dildos fell to the floor.

NS de Copa #206, also known as Club Sex. This is a real no-frills, locals' place. Girls with ink and piercings. When you come in, there is a lounge with a TV on the left, but I didn't go in there. I sat in the foyer and had a beer and checked out the girls. Mel was the only one who smiled at me and wasn't interested in her phone, so I took her. Medium-tan morena with natural breasts and pierced nipples. Good service, The bedroom were a bit spartan, with the couple on the other side of the room divider slapping away. This place is open to 11 pm, and also accepts contactless payments! I ended up there after I went to the place on the 4th floor near closing time and they only had two girls available.

[BroncosRob]

How is Seeking Arrangements in Rio. Can you find hot quality women there?

[Steve 9696]

How is Seeking Arrangements in Rio. Can you find hot quality women there?You definitely can but it's like Seeking in general — got to sort thru a bunch of crap to find the gem. But the gem can be amazing. I had three or four girls possible but settled on one. We had an amazing date with all the trimmings and she's a full on nine. Super girl. We stayed in touch for a year (this was 2023) and I've since flown her to São Paulo and Barcelona. Unbelievably hot and affectionate.

So yea. Def some winners on SA is you put in the work to find them.

[BallsDeep1980]

One of them was a 19 year old I flew in from Sao Paulo and made her my girlfriend. I banged her about 25 times, we took trups to Buzios, Cabo de Arrail, and Manaus. Unfortunately in Manaus we had an argument and she left me there, and we are currently in no contact although I do think she wants me back. There are some good girls on seeking, but some are narcissists. Very entitled, hypocritical, selfish, the whole 9 yards of narcissism. This particular 19 year old had a smoking hot body and was super cool and fun at first, but slowly started trying to control me and things started getting worse and worse. The week I spent in Manaus after she left was really rough but I did meet a massage girl in Manaus and banged her a couple times.

I'm currently in Centro Rio, can someone help me out as far as what's good out here? Is this a really unsafe area? I've never stayed in Centro before, always Ipanema, Copabana, Leblon, or Botafogo or Laranjeres, or however its spellled.

[Vagabundo1]

One of vagabundo's all time best wingman used SA.

He would stay in a top airbnb at posto 2 barra (classico beach club).

And pick the best from SA and we would head out to perola negra and mosaico to fill in his gaps.


How is Seeking Arrangements in Rio. Can you find hot quality women there?

[Rio Bob]

One of vagabundo's all time best wingman used SA.

He would stay in a top airbnb at posto 2 barra (classico beach club).

And pick the best from SA and we would head out to perola negra and mosaico to fill in his gaps.How is the arrangement made with these girls? Do you pay per session or a day rate or a shopping spree?

[Steve 9696]

How is the arrangement made with these girls? Do you pay per session or a day rate or a shopping spree?You generally pay are per meet or PPM. A meet is usually dinner and sex. So maybe 3-4 hours. Most of the world you try to be a bit less direct and not say "I am going to give you money for sex" but instead play it a bit cagey. Less important in countries where prostitution is out in the open. So adjust for Brazil. I updated and reposted my guide in the Seeking thread. Plus everyone there is super helpful so stop by.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements&p=2927190&viewfull=1#post2927190.

I should mention it can be A LOT of work depending on geography. In the US it’s 99% scammers and pic girls and it’s nearly exhausting to find the gems. But totally worth it if y do. When u find the right girl it’s a completely different experience from hookers. It’s more like she’s ur GF but without the drama. But again in Brazil girls are easier going and more girlfriendy already. So it can be handy in Brazil but it’s a god send in pussy prison USA.

[Vagabundo1]

Vagabundo hit centro for his favorite prive today. He did 2 girls for 2 hours, starting at 14 h30. Wow great session with a hot young negra. Fucked for 45 minutes straight. I did pull out as asked and blew a large load all over her ass and legs and got a good laugh, and we vibed and planned liaisons in Zona Norte.

Then I did a branca, and we fucked for the whole hour, fucked sucked, and did every position and new ones we derived like functions in calculus, lots of dirty talk about nude beaches and swing clubs and so on. That started at 16 h and ended at 17 h. Like two a days in summer football. Man what a good girl.

So, then Vagabundo did 2 hours of Muay Thai 18 h - 19 h and 20 h- 21 h, and juiced up on endorphins, Vagabundo headed home.

[IsaBahn]

Recently I came back from Brazil,*Rio and Sao Paulo. I have already been to Brazil, Rio a few times. This time I went for a week and I went with a friend. I usually go alone.

I am not going to report everything generally about Brazil and Rio and Sao Paulo as I usually do, but I will just give my extended data for this visit Sao Paulo and Rio.

Sao Paulo. Read in Sao Paulo forum.

Rio de Janeiro.

I love Rio. The vibe. The music. The sun and the beach and girls walking in the streets with bikini thong. Just writing on it makes me want to go back again. I am actually going back next month in August.

I stayed in Copacabana. I always stay in the Copacabana area. This time I wanted to try and stay in Barra de Tijuca, but I am always afraid it is too far. Clinicas in the Centro are almost 1 h drive from Barra. Solarium and 4 x4 are 1 h drive. Mab's and others are far away. Although there are nice places in Barra, eventually staying in Copa is easier. I hope to try Barra next time.

This time, since I was with a friend, we decided to take an apartment*on AirBNB and not go to a hotel. The hotels in Copacabana (and around Rio) do not like working girls to get in and might make some problems. Also apartment*rentals do not like it*much, but we made sure beforehand to ask if it is possible to bring guests up to the maximum allowed number of guests of course.

I went to the Solarium. Good looking girls. Expensive. Prices are almost like Scandallo in Sao Paulo. Entry fee. 700 for a girl in the room. Nothing very special but nice. I went to 4 x4 and it was amazing. Plenty of girls. Some are better looking, some less, but the vibe was much more alive. Dancing. Drinking. Happy. I took many girls' numbers and set to meet them later on, and I brought them to the apartment*and had a crazy party. Then the girls also brought friends and we celebrated with five girls all night. The next morning I went to the beach. I just love Rio.

The girls also invited us to go to some party in regular clubs in Barra de Tijuca and in a Swingers club in Barra de Tijuca too. Both was quite disappointing*experiment unfortunately. The bar was packed with pendejos, very crowded I couldn't move or drink. Bad music. So we* decided to go back home. The swingers club looks cool, but we arrived too late.

I will report more!

[Axel Heyst]

I went to the Solarium. Good looking girls. Expensive. Prices are almost like Scandallo in Sao Paulo. Entry fee. 700 for a girl in the room. Nothing very special but nice. I went to 4 x4 and it was amazing. Plenty of girls. Some are better looking, some less, but the vibe was much more alive. Dancing. Drinking. Happy. I took many girls' numbers and set to meet them later on, and I brought them to the apartment*and had a crazy party. Then the girls also brought friends and we celebrated with five girls all night. The next morning I went to the beach. I just love Rio.Your description of Solarium and 4 x 4 is spot on. Solarium is where you can usually find a good-looking girl or two or three or four, and 4 x 4 is a party party! I am glad you had a great time. Thanks for posting.

[Vagabundo1]

Regarding Barra, just search for a airbnb nearest metro jardim oceanico. One ISG member who may or may not be a famous porn producer uses ksportal dot com dot br (search and you shall find).

Regarding swing, Paris cafe, Saturday nights, go after midnight, and bring your own pussy.


Recently I came back from Brazil,*Rio and Sao Paulo. I have already been to Brazil, Rio a few times. This time I went for a week and I went with a friend. I usually go alone.

I am not going to report everything generally about Brazil and Rio and Sao Paulo as I usually do, but I will just give my extended data for this visit Sao Paulo and Rio.

Sao Paulo. Read in Sao Paulo forum.

Rio de Janeiro.

I love Rio. The vibe. The music. The sun and the beach and girls walking in the streets with bikini thong. Just writing on it makes me want to go back again. I am actually going back next month in August.

I stayed in Copacabana. I always stay in the Copacabana area. This time I wanted to try and stay in Barra de Tijuca, but I am always afraid it is too far. Clinicas in the Centro are almost 1 h drive from Barra. Solarium and 4 x4 are 1 h drive. Mab's and others are far away. Although there are nice places in Barra, eventually staying in Copa is easier. I hope to try Barra next time.

[WyattEarp]

I went to the Solarium. Good looking girls. Expensive. Prices are almost like Scandallo in Sao Paulo. Entry fee. 700 for a girl in the room. Nothing very special but nice. I went to 4 x4 and it was amazing. Plenty of girls. Some are better looking, some less, but the vibe was much more alive. Dancing. Drinking. Happy. Senhor IsaBahn, thanks for the report.

How would you compare the current roster of girls between Scandallo, Solarium and 4 x4 in terms of looks?

I too prefer the Rio vibe and that is why I am asking. The price to me is of less importance than the overall experience.

[IsaBahn]

Just from one time I was in each. So I am not sure it is a representative way of measure.

But like that, Scandallo: 200 girls, grade 6 to 9, some amazing girls.

Solarium: 25 girls, grade 6 to 9.

4 x4: 100 girls, grade 5 to 8 - and I still prefer 4 x4.


Senhor IsaBahn, thanks for the report.

How would you compare the current roster of girls between Scandallo, Solarium and 4 x4 in terms of looks?

I too prefer the Rio vibe and that is why I am asking. The price to me is of less importance than the overall experience.

[Asitis]

Hi everyone,

First of all, I would like to thank all the guys who report here. Reading your reports helped me a lot and I will never be able to repay the debt I owe you. Many thanks!

This is my first report in the Rio thread. English is not my mother tongue so I hope the folowing is understandable.

I arrived in Rio last week and settled close to Gloria metro station (thought it would be convenient for exploring the eastern part of the city and actually I found it quite nice and safe).

Dark Room.

It happened on July 13th. I had booked a one-hour session with Yasmin from Dark Room on the 12th for 11 am the next day.

Unfortunately, the rain prevented Yasmin from coming to the center. I found out when I arrived at the Dark Room on Saturday morning.

The only three girls present introduced themselves to me. The one I chose was Ingrid.

She is a nice mulata of about 1. 70 m, slim and with a nice slender body and a nice face with a beautiful smile. After a half-hour me waiting for her to finish what she had to do, we went together for a one hour session. I told her that I really expected kissing. She told me no problem.

After a visit to the shower, I joined her in the room and we kissed, a good wet kiss but without tongue. We went to bed and the kisses disappeared.

She gave me a very light and short BBBJ with the condom already in her hand. Then she turned her back on me and we started on the side. I reminded her of the kisses and she told me "I got it". But nothing, she simply denied me, turning her head away every single time.

A few positions and I understood that there would be nothing more. She didn't refute any position but it was a sad moment for me. After 30 minutes I ended up in the rubber.

She suggested that I go to the shower and she left. I waited for her to come back to give me the signal that the way was clear. Ten minutes passed. She came back, apologized and told me that I could go to the shower. Then she left without ever coming back.

I went to the shower, paid (150 Reais) and left.

I didn't even go to the bar to confront her, time to go on.

So well, that was Ingrid.

Carine Paiva (you will find her on gparena, photos, reports, whatsapp number and the place she got in Centro).

It happened on July 16th.

I booked with her a day before with whatsapp, very easy and quick.

I went to Centro, rua 13 de maio 33.

What a marvel of a woman, very beautiful, kind and sweet. 23 why. O mulata nice slim body with medium breast ans ass and pretty safada face with glasses, GFE type. Minor baby damage.

She offered me to go to the shower, which I did.

Back in the room, we kissed. How good, languorous and wild, sweet and intense her kisses are, a marvel. My hands on her pretty body and my mouth in her mouth, I lost the notion of time for a while.

We moved to the bed, our tongues still intertwined. After a while, my mouth explored her body. How beautiful she is, how tasty her body is! I went down to her little pearl, a real pleasure. Then I went up to her welcoming and warm mouth masturbating her with my fingers. Then more kisses, my hands running all over her body.

Then she started an incredible BBBJ looking at me. So many sensations. She is naughty, sweet, wild, creative. In order not to burn too quickly, I came back to kiss her, time disappeared again.

I asked her if we could promote it by half an hour and luckily she could. The stars sometimes align. More kisses, she lying on top of me, she sitting on top of me, me lying on top of her, our tongues inseparable. Then I came deep inside her.

As I was removing the condom, the alarm went off. Time was over, I was in another world.

We talked a little bit.

I went to the shower, then she in turn. Kisses at the door and I left delighted.

So 350 Reais for 90 minutes. I didn't go for anal but she does it for the same price (completa).

I will repeat for sure with her and try her small bubble ass. Really nice sweet and safada girl!

I am also a member of the gparena now, with those 2 reports, so I should get the members' discounts for the rest of my trip. They have a bunch of really nice girls. I already have a list.

And yes, I know about the pros and cons, I RTFF. Still, it worked well for mewith Carine and I have a new session Saturday with another girl. I will keep you posted.

BTW I am not really fond of night session and clubs.

I will stay in Rio till next Friday then I will move to Foz do Iguaçyou + Sao Paolo. I should be back in Rio early August till the end of the month.

Info:

I had some health issues when I came in Rio and managed with "Clinica Saude Pra Todos" to see a specialist the very same day in Tijuca (they have all types of specialist around the city), quite efficient. Consultation around 11 usd.

If anyone knows better that could help other members.

BTW if anyone knows a good dentist, I am interested. I have contacted one but in 5 days she hasn't been able to check her agenda and give me an appointment.

That's all for now.

[Combo]

Was planning on being in Rio in November and noticed that the G20 meeting is Nov 18-19. For anyone that's been in Rio during this type of event, how do you think our hobby will be affected (other than hotel rooms being more expensive)? Will there be a plethora of garotas looking to make some extra Real?

[Xpartan]

Hi everyone,

First of all, I would like to thank all the guys who report here. Reading your reports helped me a lot and I will never be able to repay the debt I owe you. Many thanks!

This is my first report in the Rio thread. English is not my mother tongue so I hope the folowing is understandable.Thank you for nice and detailed report!

[Frenchieboy]

Was planning on being in Rio in November and noticed that the G20 meeting is Nov 18-19. For anyone that's been in Rio during this type of event, how do you think our hobby will be affected (other than hotel rooms being more expensive)? Will there be a plethora of garotas looking to make some extra Real?I had booked at the same date in Rio (G20) , so I moved my dates, and will leave Rio on 15th of November.

Lot of security, many places closed, road to airport closed. No thanks you.

[Combo]

I had booked at the same date in Rio (G20) , so I moved my dates, and will leave Rio on 15th of November.

Lot of security, many places closed, road to airport closed. No thanks you.Good info. Probably better to avoid. Thank you.

[IsaBahn]

Hi guys,

For staying a few days in Rio what would you recommend, an AirBNB or a Hotel?

Hotel is more secure, have breakfast, but they might make some problems letting girls get in.

AirBnB should be more relaxed, but I am always afraid a girl with drug me, or rob me.

Any thoughts?

[Steve 9696]

Hi guys,

For staying a few days in Rio what would you recommend, an AirBNB or a Hotel?

Hotel is more secure, have breakfast, but they might make some problems letting girls get in.

AirBnB should be more relaxed, but I am always afraid a girl with drug me, or rob me.

Any thoughts?There is absolutely no issue in Brazil with bringing a girl back. Depending on the hotel and their vigilance they may make her register at the front. But it's no big deal and the girls expect it. But last hotels I stayed at in Rio and São Paulo (3-4 star) absolutely didn't even bat an eye. I mean she's just your girlfriend (for the night) right? They don't want to insult her.

[Combo]

There is absolutely no issue in Brazil with bringing a girl back. Depending on the hotel and their vigilance they may make her register at the front. But it's no big deal and the girls expect it. But last hotels I stayed at in Rio and So Paulo (3-4 star) absolutely didn't even bat an eye. I mean she's just your girlfriend (for the night) right? They don't want to insult her.What hotel did you use in Rio? Last trip I stayed in Pestana and it was excellent. But it's being reported that they now have a guest fee.

[Steve 9696]

What hotel did you use in Rio? Last trip I stayed in Pestana and it was excellent. But it's being reported that they now have a guest fee.We stayed at the Arena Leme which is all the way at the north tip of Copa. Really nice place. Has a rooftop bar which is very romantic before heading to the room (but closes at 10) and great for hanging out during th day. The pool is vanishingly small so if that's your thing then it's not for you.

I cannot guarantee they don't have some fee but can say they don't pay attention. We just blasted past the front desk hand in hand (around 9:15 pm) and no one tried to stop us. Normally a hotel that is strict on this will have a bouncer type guy watching. When I was at the Pullman in São Paulo I tried breezing past and it was just 3 pm and got stopped at the elevator and directed to front desk. They took her info but that was all. No fee.

I always book for two to be safe when I can but I wouldn't think a problem at most hotels.

[Axel Heyst]

There is absolutely no issue in Brazil with bringing a girl back. Depending on the hotel and their vigilance they may make her register at the front. But it's no big deal and the girls expect it. But last hotels I stayed at in Rio and So Paulo (3-4 star) absolutely didn't even bat an eye. I mean she's just your girlfriend (for the night) right? They don't want to insult her.Maybe we should pin the 1st sentence in your post to the top of the SP & RJ forums, so nobody will have to ask this question again. KKK. Personally, I prefer not to have to register my girls, but some hotels will ask for a girl's ID.

The Hyatt SP, for example, sometimes asks and sometimes does not. When my Valeria comes over, I always meet her in front of the hotel and then we walk around back to the garden / pool area where we embrace, kiss, catch up on things, and have a smokie smoke. Afterwards, I walk her through the restaurant to the elevators without incident. With new girls, I just escort them through the lobby towards the elevators, sometimes without incident and sometimes security asks us to register. No big deal either way. The hotel staff have seen everything. On some nights there are one or two working girls hanging out in the lobby. There is no "walk of shame". It is only in the mind of a few inexperienced punters.

Another bringing back the girls' example is this one: I was staying at the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi a trip or two ago. Actually, I stayed at that hotel twice that trip for around 10 days total and the front desk guys were getting very familiar with my MO. They never batted an eye when I brought back my girls. Valeria was my most frequent nighttime guest and she is a pretty good looking Portuguese Brazilian spinner if I do say so myself. KKK. (I originally met her in Scandallo back in November 2021.) Anyway, early one night I was alone walking past a local luncheonette type restaurant bar a block from the hotel when I spotted 1 of the hotel front desk guys having a drink with a friend. He saw me walking past and his face lit up into big friendly smile. He said something that appeared to be complimentary to his friend and invited me over to their table for a drink. The guys were in their late twenties and their vibe to me seemed to be, "way to go guy, we like your style and good taste in girls". Ha Ha Ha.

Lastly, on bringing 2 or more girls back to your SP or RJ hotel: I recommend doing it sequentially to avoid any issues at the front desk. Some hotels might attempt to charge a guest fee for the 2nd girl. That is the only restriction I have experienced in SP or RJ hotels and there is an easy workaround. But, if this were an Asian forum, I would consider such hotel policy on the 2nd or 3rd girl to be girl unfriendly. 555! For example, I will never forget my farewell last night party in Makati 2016. I brought back my 2 favorite Bottoms Go Go girls and one of their girlfriends. The girls were smashed on at least 10 shots of Tequila each. I probably had 12 or more shots thanks mamasan's comping a couple of extra rounds. We must have been quite a site entering the 5-star Peninsula Hotel lobby because nobody in my party could walk straight very well, yet the sexy cute hotel door girls bowed and cordially smiled as they welcomed me back to the hotel. The girls and I walk straight past the front desk towards the elevators, as best we could, while a relatively large number of hotel guests were still hanging out in the huge, ornate hotel lobby. Nobody batted an eye.

[Axel Heyst]

What hotel did you use in Rio? Last trip I stayed in Pestana and it was excellent. But it's being reported that they now have a guest fee.I am surprised to hear this about the Pestana. I hope these reports remain unconfirmed even though this would not affect my activities at all because I operate a little differently when I am in RJ vs. When I am in SP. In RJ, I focus on terma girls and shag in-house while in SP I focus on boate girls and after the 1st or 2nd or 3rd time I arrange for my girls to come visit me at my hotel. This is just one of the reasons why I prefer SP.

[Combo]

We stayed at the Arena Leme which is all the way at the north tip of Copa. Really nice place. Has a rooftop bar which is very romantic before heading to the room (but closes at 10) and great for hanging out during th day. The pool is vanishingly small so if that's your thing then it's not for you.

I cannot guarantee they don't have some fee but can say they don't pay attention. We just blasted past the front desk hand in hand (around 9:15 pm) and no one tried to stop us. Normally a hotel that is strict on this will have a bouncer type guy watching. When I was at the Pullman in So Paulo I tried breezing past and it was just 3 pm and got stopped at the elevator and directed to front desk. They took her info but that was all. No fee.

I always book for two to be safe when I can but I wouldn't think a problem at most hotels.Thanks. I've never stayed on the Leme side of Av Princess Isabel. I know Arena also has one in Copacabana proper which likely has the same guest policy.

[Rio Bob]

Hi guys,

For staying a few days in Rio what would you recommend, an AirBNB or a Hotel?

Hotel is more secure, have breakfast, but they might make some problems letting girls get in.

AirBnB should be more relaxed, but I am always afraid a girl with drug me, or rob me.

Any thoughts?Hotels are great, they have restaurants, pools, gyms and housekeeping services but there is no privacy. Stopping at the front desk at 3 am is not much of a problem but at 2 in the afternoon with your new 18 year old girlfriend can be a little embarrassing with 15 other guests waiting in line watching you. Also unless you sneak in most hotels don't let 2 girls in at a time but yes security is better at a hotel.

Apartments / airbnb provide complete privacy you can bring up as many girls as you want with as many friends that you want but you have to be smart about it. First thing is to make sure there is nothing of value out in the open or easily accessible. Lock everything in the safe if there is one otherwise I use a portable safe by pacsafe, not perfect but prevents the grab and go. When you bring a girl in at night lock the door from the inside remove the key and hide it so if you fall asleep she can't leave or let an accomplice in. Even if she can leave if there's nothing of value they can't take much and they will take anything like your shampoo, condoms, lighters, corkscrew LOL anything but these things are low value.

Most importantly never leave your drink unattended, take it to the toilet with you and always have your eye on it. The girls watch their drinks too. Also if you bring 2 girls to your apartment one trick they like is to have one keep you busy while the other goes looking through the apartment for valuables, keep them together or have nothing of value to steal. I prefer apartments and bring girls up all the time but rarely do they get anything from me. One more thing never tell anyone exactly what day you are leaving always make it seem you have several weeks left even if you're leaving the next day.

[CptMargo]

We stayed at the Arena Leme which is all the way at the north tip of Copa. Really nice place. Has a rooftop bar which is very romantic before heading to the room (but closes at 10) and great for hanging out during th day. The pool is vanishingly small so if that's your thing then it's not for you.

I cannot guarantee they don't have some fee but can say they don't pay attention. We just blasted past the front desk hand in hand (around 9:15 pm) and no one tried to stop us. Normally a hotel that is strict on this will have a bouncer type guy watching. When I was at the Pullman in So Paulo I tried breezing past and it was just 3 pm and got stopped at the elevator and directed to front desk. They took her info but that was all. No fee.

I always book for two to be safe when I can but I wouldn't think a problem at most hotels.Checked this hotel on Booking today, went through the questions asked and found this (can you have female company in your room? What is needed to have company over in in your room?

Answer: Dear, we would like to inform you that if you book a room for two people, it is possible for you to bring a companion, as long as she is the same for the entire period of your stay and she registers at the reception.).

I enjoy reading the question about guest policies of the establishments on booking, they are funny and the way how people use different wording haha!

And I'm not questioning your experience about it being guest friendly! Because that question was asked back in 2021.

[Xpartan]

There is absolutely no issue in Brazil with bringing a girl back. Depending on the hotel and their vigilance they may make her register at the front. But it's no big deal and the girls expect it. But last hotels I stayed at in Rio and So Paulo (3-4 star) absolutely didn't even bat an eye. I mean she's just your girlfriend (for the night) right? They don't want to insult her.I'm afraid "no issue" is a wishful thinking. Some Rio hotels AND Airbnbs have stricter policies than others. Of course, when lobby traffic is busy, you have a better chance to snick your girl in, but I don't see why not ask a question beforehand and stay at a fully GF property if this is important to you.

[Bravo]

There is absolutely no issue in Brazil with bringing a girl back. Depending on the hotel and their vigilance they may make her register at the front. But it's no big deal and the girls expect it. But last hotels I stayed at in Rio and So Paulo (3-4 star) absolutely didn't even bat an eye. I mean she's just your girlfriend (for the night) right? They don't want to insult her.Do your own due diligence before you book a room. There are Definitely hotels and AIR BnB s that have issues with you bringing females onto their property!! I did a write up about a hotel in centro who gave me problems. Also be specific in your questions! Ask follow up questions! If they say you can have a female guest, then ask if you can change the females daily. Then ask if if you can change the female daily, is there a guest charge, how much? Be specific.

[Vagabundo1]

Brazilians are lawfare using little bitches who will tell you its all ok, very liberal, until they have a reason to fck with you (fucking on balcony, smoking weed) and then they will pop up and tell you every guest has to be registered after 3 years of having 4 hoars from 4 x4 in your transamerica room that you snuck into the pool and put on a live sex underwater show for their entertainment, you just need to know the culture and play the game.

You're a sex mma blackbelt in your own mind until you're not, then you're a airbnb idiot who registered that apartment in copa in your wifes name (duh) and got your wife called when vagabundo lit up a joint when the landlord showed up as a fake food delivery asswipe.

Then you're worried about your wife (duh?) canceling your cards or some shit.

Fucking a skippy.


Do your own due diligence before you book a room. There are Definitely hotels and AIR BnB s that have issues with you bringing females onto their property!! I did a write up about a hotel in centro who gave me problems. Also be specific in your questions! Ask follow up questions! If they say you can have a female guest, then ask if you can change the females daily. Then ask if if you can change the female daily, is there a guest charge, how much? Be specific.

[Axel Heyst]

I stand corrected.


Do your own due diligence before you book a room. There are Definitely hotels and AIR BnB s that have issues with you bringing females onto their property!! I did a write up about a hotel in centro who gave me problems. Also be specific in your questions! Ask follow up questions! If they say you can have a female guest, then ask if you can change the females daily. Then ask if if you can change the female daily, is there a guest charge, how much? Be specific.


I'm afraid "no issue" is a wishful thinking. Some Rio hotels AND Airbnbs have stricter policies than others. Of course, when lobby traffic is busy, you have a better chance to snick your girl in, but I don't see why not ask a question beforehand and stay at a fully GF property if this is important to you.AirBNBs are one thing. It is always critical to know what the condo and owner restrictions are before signing the bottom line. But as far as some restrictive RJ hotel guest policies, all I can say is, CRIKEY! I am amazed. I never had a guest problem at the Hyatt, the Fairmont, the Fasano (I stayed there for real cheap back in April 2021), and the Windsor California Hotel. I like the Hyatt a lot for its great balcony rooms and the section of beach front. Getting to and from 4 x4 takes at least 45 minutes even after 8 pm. The Windsor California is a fine 4 star with a great Copa location. I pay up for their beachfront balcony rooms.

Over in SP, I still stand by my assumption that At Least 90% of SP hotels are girl friendly. Correct me if I am wrong, but I have never had a problem with any SP hotel and I have stayed at a lot of 4* and 5* hotels.

[Bravo]

I stand corrected.



AirBNBs are one thing. It is always critical to know what the condo and owner restrictions are before signing the bottom line. But as far as some restrictive RJ hotel guest policies, all I can say is, CRIKEY! I am amazed. I never had a guest problem at the Hyatt, the Fairmont, the Fasano (I stayed there for real cheap back in April 2021), and the Windsor California Hotel. I like the Hyatt a lot for its great balcony rooms and the section of beach front. Getting to and from 4 x4 takes at least 45 minutes even after 8 pm. The Windsor California is a fine 4 star with a great Copa location. I pay up for their beachfront balcony rooms.

All those places you mentioned are what, in the $400-500 a night range? I can understand management being more lenient when the guest is dropping 5 K for a 10 day stay. Me, I am in the 50-60 dollars a night range, so they could give a crap about me. LOL!!

[Axel Heyst]

All those places you mentioned are what, in the $400-500 a night range? I can understand management being more lenient when the guest is dropping 5 K for a 10 day stay. Me, I am in the 50-60 dollars a night range, so they could give a crap about me. LOL!!No, No, No. I use hotel CC travel points and vouchers to stay for free and the Hyatt, Marriott, and Hilton brands. I also have so called elevated status at some of these international chains and as a result they often offer special rates. Like on my last trip I was able to book the Hyatt SP for $119/ night for a 3-night stay. When I arrived at the hotel, they upgraded my entire 7-night reservation, which consisted of cash nights, point nights, and one annual voucher night) to their one-bedroom suite. It was well worth the total $357 before tax and incidental expenditures, and it included free executive club access breakfasts and evening appetizers as well as free cokes and other soft drinks anytime.

When I can't find a deal at the 5 stars, I am happy to stay at solid 4 star hotels. 4 star hotel lobbies are not as impressive as the elegant 5 star show lobbies, I don't care because the 4 stars I choose to stay at are very comfortable, clean, GF, and priced between $85/ night and $135 a night depending on how well booked they are. I start planning for my next trip very early on and I search and search until I find a good price. I prefer outdoor swimming pools and rooms with balconies, and I am partial to certain neighborhoods. These are my only restrictions. I think I paid $135 per night at the Fasano RJ during the height of Omicron April 2021. It is a smaller, very impressive hotel, with a great Ipanema location, a rooftop pool, and a fabulous restaurant. I think a room there is now going for $500 or $600/ night. Same same for the 2 Fasanos in SP. Too rico for my blood. KKK.

[Rocko20]

There is absolutely no issue in Brazil with bringing a girl back. Depending on the hotel and their vigilance they may make her register at the front. But it's no big deal and the girls expect it. But last hotels I stayed at in Rio and So Paulo (3-4 star) absolutely didn't even bat an eye. I mean she's just your girlfriend (for the night) right? They don't want to insult her.I disagree. Its about the policy of the hotel and Airbnb, both of which typically have lobbies / cameras / security and can see when you bring back women.

For one, they can charge you more if they believe you have overnight visitors but you only booked as 1 guest. Two, they don't care about insulting a visitor as they know she's a sex worker (since you didn’t register with her when you initially checked-in).

I've stayed at hotels in plenty of countries. Some care, some don't, you always have to check beforehand.

[Xpartan]

I stand corrected.



AirBNBs are one thing. It is always critical to know what the condo and owner restrictions are before signing the bottom line. But as far as some restrictive RJ hotel guest policies, all I can say is, CRIKEY! I am amazed. I never had a guest problem at the Hyatt, the Fairmont, the Fasano (I stayed there for real cheap back in April 2021), and the Windsor California Hotel. I like the Hyatt a lot for its great balcony rooms and the section of beach front. Getting to and from 4 x4 takes at least 45 minutes even after 8 pm. The Windsor California is a fine 4 star with a great Copa location. I pay up for their beachfront balcony rooms.That might be because the Hyatt, Fairmont and probably the other two you've mentioned are GF. If you don't do your due diligence as Bravo suggested, you're running a risk of getting stuck at a hotel that doesn't want your business, or charges joiner's fees, or makes you jump through the hoops like sneaking your girl into your room, and when I'm on vacation, I'd rather avoid that shit.

That said, my MO in Rio is similar to yours. I usually play in termas and prives and for that special someone there are always motels. But those of us who prefer having fun on their home turf need to do the homework.

[PGTour]

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[The Cane]

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