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BennieBen
08-11-25, 13:05
Yeah, I figured as much.You got to find your masturbation material elsewhere.

The Cane
08-11-25, 15:50
You got to find your masturbation material elsewhere.It's not a place for finding masturbation material. It's a place for sharing information for where and how to successfully procure P4P sex. An integral part of the sharing is through field reports relating where you went, what you did, and how well did it go. And of course, how much did it all cost? Everyone has their own style, but a well-written, informative report is invaluable. Instead, we have too many people showing up who don't RTFF, ask endless uninformed questions, and then disappear, rarely if ever to be heard from again (let alone write a useful report) after they wasted a lot of time, including their own. It's the reason why seasoned, experienced mongers rarely ever respond to these types. RTFF. Ask informed questions. Go and experience. Report back. Therein lies the site's value, and everyone needs to do their part. Give back something. Don't just take.

BennieBen
08-12-25, 01:07
It's not a place for finding masturbation material. It's a place for sharing information for where and how to successfully procure P4P sex. An integral part of the sharing is through field reports relating where you went, what you did, and how well did it go. And of course, how much did it all cost? Everyone has their own style, but a well-written, informative report is invaluable. Instead, we have too many people showing up who don't RTFF, ask endless uninformed questions, and then disappear, rarely if ever to be heard from again (let alone write a useful report) after they wasted a lot of time, including their own. It's the reason why seasoned, experienced mongers rarely ever respond to these types. RTFF. Ask informed questions. Go and experience. Report back. Therein lies the site's value, and everyone needs to do their part. Give back something. Don't just take.I posted like 30 website. Even the reader only visitor are contributing to the board. Board like this are uselss without reader. I read tons of of board like this before choosing where and when I go. Asking question is also a contribution. There is not so much information in most of biblic text posted sometime but a good wuestion witon a good answer can become more valualb ehten 5 k words.

Nounce
08-12-25, 19:44
Asking question is also a contribution. There is not so much information in most of biblic text posted sometime but a good wuestion witon a good answer can become more valualb ehten 5 k words.Most questions are repeated questions. How many times have members posted about SIM. It still comes up and often wrong in the report, It would help more if you added personal observation on these web sites or rank them even if you are not in Brazil.

BennieBen
08-13-25, 16:33
Most questions are repeated questions. How many times have members posted about SIM. It still comes up and often wrong in the report, It would help more if you added personal observation on these web sites or rank them even if you are not in Brazil.You have the list too now, you can do it.

Vagabundo1
08-14-25, 00:57
So.

Anne Amari says that another girl, a garota do programa, paid her $1000 r for pernoite, but she says she is not a lesbian. I was like, fuck, you go girl, and you can PAY ME $300 r pernoite.

Vagabundo1
08-14-25, 01:36
So.

Anne Amari says that another girl, a garota do programa, paid her $1000 r for pernoite, but she says she is not a lesbian. I was like, fuck, you go girl, and you can PAY ME $300 r pernoite.

Boa Noite, Gente. Eu sou Professor Felipe Ret Bengala, do MUV-Rio. Tonight's class will be Portoguese for Estrangeros. Repeat after me.

Sou felipe ret bengala, go-go boy. Normalmente meninas me paga 500 reais por hora. Por voce, vou fazer um desconto, 300 reais.

Voodoo Jones
08-15-25, 18:23
I am not judging, some bacteria can live for decade in a mouth even if you wash and clean it every day. Listerine isn't a protection, its like claming safe sex because the person had a test 3 days ago.There is no way this is true. A bacterium in your body does not live for a decade. Most bacteria live only for hours within your body and are constantly fighting new bacteria for resources.

Alex Deuce
08-16-25, 11:48
There is no way this is true. A bacterium in your body does not live for a decade. Most bacteria live only for hours within your body and are constantly fighting new bacteria for resources.Bacterium can persist in the body indefinitely or until medically treated even on minimal resources especially the harmful ones. Without it and multiple Organisms we don't exist. Look up the term superorganisms and the human body.

Alex Deuce
08-16-25, 14:52
My first trip report but not my first time in Rio. This trip took place back in February. I was in Rio for about a week, stayed at a airbnb.

First day arrived around 8 am uber straight to the apartment, settled in hanged out by the pool for a few hours. 4 pm headed to solarium to see one of my favorite garotas Clara. When I go to solarium I like to hang out drink and people watch I also like to smash about 3 times. Clara is to me is my Brazilian loira that I fantasize about all my life. She has the tan line she recently had boob job, I didn't think she needed it and one nice bunda with perfect thick legs. Smashed twice we agreed to see each other the next day at my apartment total damage around 2200 are.

Day 2.

Woke up with a rock hard it was 11 am. It was either get some food or get some pussy. Well I went in search of some pussy headed to copa583 They had four girls in there I went with Hellen, her name sounded like it started with a S. Now Hellen performed well she had fake boobs she's a morena solid 7 damage was 160 are 30 min. Back at the apartment I waited for Clara we had agreed to 1,000 are for multiple session BBFS. We didn't discuss how much time she would spend. Clara arrived at 2 pm, we got into the action right away. Once again she my fantasy Brazilian girl. All 3 session were bbfscip. Now the only negative is that she doesn't like to ride and she has a bit of an attitude. She left a bit before 9 pm. I headed to mabs around 11 pm to see anything good, nothing so passed..Sounds like my quarterly trip minus massages at lunch for the first two days.

Turgid
08-16-25, 17:02
Bacterium can persist in the body indefinitely or until medically treated even on minimal resources especially the harmful ones. Without it and multiple Organisms we don't exist. Look up the term superorganisms and the human body.Chances are, therefore, that every man who has DFKed a girl has bacterium from some man's jizz in their mouth even if the girl BBBJed a dude twenty years ago or back then she had DFKed a dude who DFKed a girl before that who had who had BBBJed a dude years before and so on and on, if all not medically treated of course.

Alex Deuce
08-16-25, 18:39
Chances are, therefore, that every man who has DFKed a girl has bacterium from some man's jizz in their mouth even if the girl BBBJed a dude twenty years ago or back then she had DFKed a dude who DFKed a girl before that who had who had BBBJed a dude years before and so on and on, if all not medically treated of course.If left untreated, some bacteria can persist for years by forming spores and entering a dormant state. Multiple white papers describe infections that can be acquired through the mouth and throat, including gonorrhea, HSV, HPV, and syphilis. A study in Brazil found recent syphilis infections in 17% of female sex workers, with oral lesions frequently observed, suggesting the potential for oral to genital and genital to oral transmission with clients. (Recently).

Vagabundo1
08-16-25, 20:34
Is $500 reais a lot for good teeth cleaning? I paid that to an Ipanema dentist who advertises that he speaks English.

Really, this is ridiculous, but the basic point is that if the provider AND the client have good hygiene, then that is all that counts.

Of course, I guess there are many orally transmitted std s too.


Chances are, therefore, that every man who has DFKed a girl has bacterium from some man's jizz in their mouth even if the girl BBBJed a dude twenty years ago or back then she had DFKed a dude who DFKed a girl before that who had who had BBBJed a dude years before and so on and on, if all not medically treated of course.

Voodoo Jones
08-16-25, 21:12
Bacterium can persist in the body indefinitely or until medically treated even on minimal resources especially the harmful ones. Without it and multiple Organisms we don't exist. Look up the term superorganisms and the human body.We're talking about bacteria in your mouth that is being exposed to antiseptic mouthwash on a regular basis, not bacteria in general.

Axel Heyst
08-17-25, 13:08
Really, this is ridiculous, but the basic point is that if the provider AND the client have good hygiene, then that is all that counts.Bingo! Every real punter knows this basic fact.

BTW: I visit my dentist's office in the USA 4 x a year. I pay $165 US / cleaning (Humana reimburses me for $50 of that fee) and the visit includes a brief inspection of my teeth, gums, and mouth by my dentist after the cleaning. I consider this medical service somewhat expensive, but of absolute necessity for health AND romantic reasons. Surprise, surprise; girls are not attracted to and will not perform at their best, if at all, with guys who suffer from bad oral hygiene. And I will end the interview with any girl who has bad hygiene of any kind.

Now does this conversation, going back a couple of weeks, belong in the "reports" forum? I do not think so.

BennieBen
08-17-25, 16:10
There is no way this is true. A bacterium in your body does not live for a decade. Most bacteria live only for hours within your body and are constantly fighting new bacteria for resources.Yes it is. Do some research on Treponema denticola and Porphyromonas gingivalis. I was not refering to a specific bacteria of its on indivdualy (who is doing that?) but as a group who can last (through multiplication obviously) for decades in the mouth.

BennieBen
08-17-25, 17:00
We're talking about bacteria in your mouth that is being exposed to antiseptic mouthwash on a regular basis, not bacteria in general.On the list of the best lving place for bacteria where they can live a long and quiet live (even with a daily tsunami of listerine) the mouth is probably on the 2nd place after the digestive system.

Turgid
08-18-25, 01:30
On the list of the best lving place for bacteria where they can live a long and quiet live (even with a daily tsunami of listerine) the mouth is probably on the 2nd place after the digestive system.According to this then is that all mongers (and non mongers as well) have bacteria from some guy's semen in their mouths.

BennieBen
08-19-25, 03:19
According to this then is that all mongers (and non mongers as well) have bacteria from some guy's semen in their mouths.'semen'-tically you are right!

Sperto
08-19-25, 06:25
The police arrested one of the three women that used "Boa Noite, Cinderela" to dope and rob two English tourists. The guys foolishly accepted caipirinhas from three women they met in a bar in Lapa. The guys lost a shitload of money.

https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/2025/08/7113374-suspeita-de-dopar-turistas-ingleses-e-presa-na-baixada.html

https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2025/08/18/mulheres-suspeitas-de-aplicar-boa-noite-cinderela-em-turistas-britanicos-no-rio-viram-res.ghtml

Agpov
08-19-25, 14:38
The police arrested one of the three women that used "Boa Noite, Cinderela" to dope and rob two English tourists. The guys foolishly accepted caipirinhas from three women they met in a bar in Lapa. The guys lost a shitload of money.

https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/2025/08/7113374-suspeita-de-dopar-turistas-ingleses-e-presa-na-baixada.html

https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2025/08/18/mulheres-suspeitas-de-aplicar-boa-noite-cinderela-em-turistas-britanicos-no-rio-viram-res.ghtmlKeeping up with this kind of news is quite important, and valuable as a reminder. But why does it always seem like they so often hunt in LAPA?

BennieBen
08-19-25, 18:21
Keeping up with this kind of news is quite important, and valuable as a reminder. But why does it always seem like they so often hunt in LAPA?Its so spooky. I am going to be paranoid now. any one know if they are going to prison and for how long? i hope itrs a least 10 years in jail.

Cabroncito
08-19-25, 19:31
Its so spooky. I am going to be paranoid now. any one know if they are going to prison and for how long? i hope itrs a least 10 years in jail."One of the suspects identified is Rayane Campos de Oliveira, 27. She has approximately 20 criminal records for the same crime. Last year, she was arrested and sentenced to six years in prison, but her defense appealed, requesting acquittal and release, which was granted by judges of the 8th Criminal Chamber of the Rio de Janeiro Court of Justice".

Anaggie
08-20-25, 01:36
The police arrested one of the three women that used "Boa Noite, Cinderela" to dope and rob two English tourists. The guys foolishly accepted caipirinhas from three women they met in a bar in Lapa. The guys lost a shitload of money.

https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/2025/08/7113374-suspeita-de-dopar-turistas-ingleses-e-presa-na-baixada.html

https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2025/08/18/mulheres-suspeitas-de-aplicar-boa-noite-cinderela-em-turistas-britanicos-no-rio-viram-res.ghtmlThere is the first problem. Accepting drinks from women. Seriously. I doubt girls buy Chris Hemsworth drinks 🤦127997;8205;9794;65039; If a woman came up to me with a drink for me in a different country than my own. I would be like NO FUCKING THANKS!!

Mr Enternational
08-20-25, 03:23
Keeping up with this kind of news is quite important, and valuable as a reminder. But why does it always seem like they so often hunt in LAPA?Because that is where foreigners go thinking they are going to come up on some free pussy.

TommyTom1
08-20-25, 03:39
My first trip report but not my first time in Rio. This trip took place back in February. I was in Rio for about a week, stayed at a airbnb.

First day arrived around 8 am uber straight to the apartment, settled in hanged out by the pool for a few hours. 4 pm headed to solarium to see one of my favorite garotas Clara. When I go to solarium I like to hang out drink and people watch I also like to smash about 3 times. Clara is to me is my Brazilian loira that I fantasize about all my life. She has the tan line she recently had boob job, I didn't think she needed it and one nice bunda with perfect thick legs. Smashed twice we agreed to see each other the next day at my apartment total damage around 2200 are..Do you negotiate BBFS upfront and make it a point to mention, or just let it happen? Is it generally more common once you get the girl out of the terms?

The Cane
08-20-25, 07:07
There is the first problem. Accepting drinks from women. Seriously. I doubt girls buy Chris Hemsworth drinks 🤦127997;8205;9794;65039; If a woman came up to me with a drink for me in a different country than my own. I would be like NO FUCKING THANKS!!I wouldn't accept a drink from someone I don't know even in my own country, let alone a foreign one!

BennieBen
08-20-25, 16:09
"One of the suspects identified is Rayane Campos de Oliveira, 27. She has approximately 20 criminal records for the same crime. Last year, she was arrested and sentenced to six years in prison, but her defense appealed, requesting acquittal and release, which was granted by judges of the 8th Criminal Chamber of the Rio de Janeiro Court of Justice".It make no sense. Corrupted judge? He got some freeby back stage with the lady then get their number to collect more payment later?


There is the first problem. Accepting drinks from women. Seriously. I doubt girls buy Chris Hemsworth drinks 🤦127997;8205;9794;65039; If a woman came up to me with a drink for me in a different country than my own. I would be like NO FUCKING THANKS!!It depend of the country. In south ameria I am pranoid about it because of all the new like this but there is place where I accepted drink and never had problem. Not from a hooker in a 3rd tier country ghetto but in thailand if you trow a lots of money in a bar the mamasan is probably going to pay you some drink too sooner or later.

Vagabundo1
08-20-25, 17:56
Wednesday Barra 12th floor bang.

In medias res, in the middle of things. Vagabundo sits next to Cat, having fucked for 45 minutes to some evil evilangel porn that we picked out, and cut and paste into a compilation video, a good thing according to the Diary of a CEO podcast in terms of porno watching. We order camarada camarao from New York Center, as usual, the no choppe, and the camarao burger. Cost per fuck per minute is going to be good today, as we are off to a good start in terms of cardio cross training.

We had fucked 30 minutes Monday in the prive, which she doesn't like as she has to split her money with the house.

Speaking of houses, Vagabundo is moving shortly. Well, details are better to avoid, except to say the present fuck pad was a sublet from a ISG friend, who shall remain anonymous. So that worked out well.

Another ISGer had come into town a few weeks ago seeking help finding a Barra cuberto (penthouse) for 10 million reias or less. Associate 1 had effed up by showing him a place in Zona Sul. Another associate has a better place in barra, for 6. 3 m. This is not a bad problem to work so Vagabundo is working it.

Business has been tough in terms of trading, so full disclosure, as they say, Vagabundo is taking off risk and has to be more conservative, more tranquilo. Money is always a big issue. Ann Amari wants Vagabundo to send her money by loterica for medical tests. The possible new landlord wanted to terminate a lease for Vagabundo's new landlord / sublettor early so she could try to collect a new deposit on a new contract. Brazil is fighting America over money. It gets so tiresome. On the bright side, there are the girls here in Rio, and the beach, and many other things. Also on the bright side, Vagabundo got at least 5000 r of dental work done essentially for free due to his connections near his likely new apartment, so that is turning out to be the right move, probably.

As always, the thing to do is to go to prives and then get the girls back to your apartment.

Selah.

Sperto
08-20-25, 18:11
It depend of the country. In south ameria I am pranoid about it because of all the new like this but there is place where I accepted drink and never had problem. Not from a hooker in a 3rd tier country ghetto but in thailand if you trow a lots of money in a bar the mamasan is probably going to pay you some drink too sooner or later.The young british guys propably thought the women were three friendly women interested in handsome young gringos. There are so many fools going to Rio. Many of the younger fools end up in Lapa. Lapa is one of the worst places in Rio when it comes to getting set up for a scam or robbery.

I think they were lucky. I saw an interview where a traveca told the interviewer that she used boa noite Cinderela on gringo tourists. Robbed the victims and also ass-f*cked them just for fun.

Vagabundo1
08-21-25, 03:43
https://youtu.be/ZWJB7jKIBlY?si=ueaDG7Hd-a4Df1MV watch with English subtitles. One of the best ways to learn Portuguese for motherfucking free.

Vagabundo1
08-21-25, 11:31
Thats true.

How many trips have you made to Rio, BTW?


Their is a popular brand of hotel in south america named Ibis, there is like 2-3 in rio and I seen some in other south american country. They have an apps on apple store for the booking and all the stuff. They are girls friendly every where usually. I dint been in one in rio yet but in the other country I was calling lobby to tell the girls who was coming and they was letting her walk to the room. No hastl to go downstair an dwait in lobby.

Derdeered
08-21-25, 14:34
Hey guys, thanks so much for all the info over the years. I am on my way to Rio in November (yes I'm starting early). I have been many times but I have never done the Termas. I usually just go to Eden spa. What is so special about the termas that they charge so much more? Is it worth paying 1500-3000 R versus 160 R?

BundaLove1
08-21-25, 15:04
Do you negotiate BBFS upfront and make it a point to mention, or just let it happen? Is it generally more common once you get the girl out of the terms?I don't negotiate anything with a girl I just let it happen. If I negotiate they will turn up the price. I just usually get a vibe from them while I talk to them in the terma. If you are looking for BBFS definitely get some prep.

Steve 9696
08-21-25, 19:13
Hey guys, thanks so much for all the info over the years. I am on my way to Rio in November (yes I'm starting early). I have been many times but I have never done the Termas. I usually just go to Eden spa. What is so special about the termas that they charge so much more? Is it worth paying 1500-3000 R versus 160 R?No terma is going to be even close to 1500-3000. I have no idea where you got that number.

Rio Bob
08-21-25, 20:05
Do you negotiate BBFS upfront and make it a point to mention, or just let it happen? Is it generally more common once you get the girl out of the terms?This same question is asked every couple of weeks, do a search and get everybody's answers. Like others have said here either you get the vibe but for sure it's all about the money. If the subject comes up while you're already inside her she will give you a flat No or she will throw a number at you, counter the number with something reasonable and they usually take it.

BundaLove1
08-21-25, 22:19
Hey guys, thanks so much for all the info over the years. I am on my way to Rio in November (yes I'm starting early). I have been many times but I have never done the Termas. I usually just go to Eden spa. What is so special about the termas that they charge so much more? Is it worth paying 1500-3000 R versus 160 R?The quality of girls is different. You can sit and enjoy a few drinks and talk to the girls at a terma and collect numbers. I spent 2200 are at solarium but I banged 3 chicks and had a lot of drinks hanged out there from 4-10 pm. I think it was 640 are at Monte Carlo for 1 hour and I also had a few drinks.

Durant
08-21-25, 23:58
Hi Guyz- planning to visit Rio for the first time this September 3rd week for 5 days.

Advice regarding hotels. Plan to stay in Copacabana.

Any Spas near by places to visit- help much appreciated. Thanks.

BennieBen
08-22-25, 02:00
The young british guys propably thought the women were three friendly women interested in handsome young gringos. There are so many fools going to Rio. Many of the younger fools end up in Lapa. Lapa is one of the worst places in Rio when it comes to getting set up for a scam or robbery.

I think they were lucky. I saw an interview where a traveca told the interviewer that she used boa noite Cinderela on gringo tourists. Robbed the victims and also ass-f*cked them just for fun.I am probably not going to walk too far of Copacabana for my first trip there. People on this board are very confident but they seem to be local or very used to go there and fluent in Portuguese. The game is probably a lot different whe nyou like a tourist from a mile away.


Thats true.

How many trips have you made to Rio, BTW?0 yet but i am planning for probably 2026 when i will had some free time for it. Ibis is a brand with hotel in 110 country. I booked them in other country and the pattern was the same: girls friendly, near action, not too expensive, clean, confortable enough to sleep well. They have an apps, very uselss to book and communicate with them.

BennieBen
08-22-25, 02:40
Thats true.

How many trips have you made to Rio, BTW?0, but its a brand with hotel in 110 country. I booked them in other country and the pattern was the same: girls friendly, near action, not too expensive, clean, comfortable enough to sleep well. They have an apps, very useless to book and communicate with them.

Vagabundo1
08-22-25, 05:52
I was going to say you might want to slow your roll until you actually get to Rio, but all the information you post is accurate. So welcome to the board. I mean, I was there for like 15 years, stroking my bratwurst back in pussy prison to images from buttman dot com and from my last trip to Rio.

Your goal in life, young Jedi, is to live here, the capital of the world and its own universe. Surrounded by the best women in the world, using coconut products in dozens of ways including to lube up the pussies of Rio de Janeiro.



0 yet but i am planning for probably 2026 when i will had some free time for it. Ibis is a brand with hotel in 110 country. I booked them in other country and the pattern was the same: girls friendly, near action, not too expensive, clean, confortable enough to sleep well. They have an apps, very uselss to book and communicate with them.

Pockets123
08-22-25, 20:58
Gents. Does anyone know where are the girls from Barbarella are now? I'm looking for a girl called Naty. Can anyone help? Thanks!

Mr Enternational
08-22-25, 22:21
Gents. Does anyone know where are the girls from Barbarella are now? I'm looking for a girl called Naty. No idea. But those chicks have to be at least 50 by now.

Combo
08-23-25, 01:54
Gents. Does anyone know where are the girls from Barbarella are now? I'm looking for a girl called Naty. Can anyone help? Thanks!You might check senior living communities.

Sperto
08-23-25, 07:04
So many stupid tourists in Rio. Two German tourists went for a night-time swim in Copacabana. Some thieves robbed their clothes and belongings. The thieves were caught by police.

https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2025/08/20/turistas-alemaes-sao-assaltados-e-deixados-nus-em-copacabana.ghtml

Sidenote: I do recommend evening picknicks in Copacabana beach. However go before midnight while there are plenty of people around. As I always stay one block from the beach me and a GF prepare some nice food and snacks, a cooler with wine, cold beer, music / loudspeakers, chairs and make some gin tonics. It's wonderful with the night breeze from the ocean. As always you just have to stay alert.

SlapShot10
08-24-25, 18:36
I decided it was time to try out Perola Negra. I walked from Olegario Maciel, which was packed full of people, to PN. I wasn't quite sure what to expect, as each place has it's own vibe, rules, layout, etc. Entry was easy enough, R50 entry fee paid when you leave. I took a lap and sat down next to a cute girl. Neither of us had cell service and there is no wifi. It was a bit of a struggle but we managed. She said it was about R550 for in-house, but not sure which room that would be. They have various rooms & prices. She offered to come to my apartment another day if I wanted. She said the R1250 takeout fee was too much and she didn't want to go to a room. Eventually, cell service came back and off we went on translator. I arrived around 1230a and she kept saying at 2a the place would be bumping. Well, that never happened. I would guess there were about 8 men and 12-15 women. She was the best looking and I would say would be a solid 8 if not for having a child. I wouldn't have guessed that but her phone background was her young daughter. Anyway, I say let's get out of here and go to Asha. I tell her I'll give her R400 for one session at Asha and one more at my apartment. She says she's never been and let's check it out. PN tab was R1600 something for: 4 cocktails for me, 2 for her, entry, gum, and takeout. Also, there are no "girl drinks" and girls are not required to or encouraged to have drinks purchased for them.

At first, she didn't want to take a lap to see what was going on upstairs or in the back. After a drink, we went upstairs and within 2 mins she had her clothes off on a chaise lounge. We had a good romp, with some couple feeling her up and then the wife / GF grabbing me. I probably lost 1 kg as it had been 2 weeks of celibacy. After, we cashed out at around R330 or something for entry and maybe 5 cocktails. FYI, a single man would pay R550 for entry, whereas a couple is R180. So, if you can pay a companion R370 or less, you're breaking even or doing better. I am not the type to use a working girl as bait, so we keep to ourselves and enjoy each other in the sexy ambiance. The garotas love the funk. She was moving that bunda like a pro (which makes sense because she is a pro). PN was playing funk and I couldn't stand it because there is no vibe there, really. Then, add 50 couples to the mix and the funk starts sounding better.

All in all, a rather expensive night but I had made up my mind before going out that I needed a release. I put my apartment as a stop and sent her home in my Uber. I gave her R200 because that is all the cash I had. She didn't say a word, aside from thanks for a fun night. So, in total, around R2200 for everything. We didn't go for round two at home because I was wiped out by 5a. I would say there were 3 hot girls at PN. Also, I was having a nightmare with Uber. None of my foreign cards would work, PayPal wouldn't work, Apple Pay wouldn't work. I found out about two work-arounds, last night. 1) You can over pay your fare in cash and request they give your change back in credits on the app. 2) I managed to use an AMEX, which previously didn't work, to buy credits (Account > Wallet > Add Funds > One-Time Purchase > Apple Pay). Now, I have R200 in credits to use.

I'll need to check out PN again. I won't write it off. If I had to guess, Thursday night might be the night to go. That is when they have a show (I believe pole dance). I would assume some Fridays and Saturdays might actually be slower, because the girls have better plans.

Cheers!

Derdeered
08-24-25, 19:48
No terma is going to be even close to 1500-3000. I have no idea where you got that number.How much do you usually spend for an hour? How much for takeout? Most comments I have read and even one of the replies was 2200 R.

Vagabundo1
08-26-25, 02:41
Per hour?

That is crazy.


How much do you usually spend for an hour? How much for takeout? Most comments I have read and even one of the replies was 2200 R.

Vagabundo1
08-26-25, 02:49
I hate to sound like a broken drum, but the way to go is to actually fuck at a prive for 180 r, IE, get your CPF cost per fuck there in a prive, and get numbers at Perola Negra and mix in the PN girls with the centro prive girls.

Those numbers are ridiculous. Writing this from Barra, one realizes how the economic strata work along the lines of the metro lines. Some would like to be on a helicopter from Metro Uruguiana to Metro Jardim Oceanico, to which I say, really, relax, Mr. Diplomat. Cariocas get around by metro.


I decided it was time to try out Perola Negra. I walked from Olegario Maciel, which was packed full of people, to PN. I wasn't quite sure what to expect, as each place has it's own vibe, rules, layout, etc. Entry was easy enough, R50 entry fee paid when you leave. I took a lap and sat down next to a cute girl. Neither of us had cell service and there is no wifi. It was a bit of a struggle but we managed. She said it was about R550 for in-house, but not sure which room that would be. They have various rooms & prices. She offered to come to my apartment another day if I wanted. She said the R1250 takeout fee was too much and she didn't want to go to a room. Eventually, cell service came back and off we went on translator. I arrived around 1230a and she kept saying at 2a the place would be bumping. Well, that never happened. I would guess there were about 8 men and 12-15 women. She was the best looking and I would say would be a solid 8 if not for having a child. I wouldn't have guessed that but her phone background was her young daughter. Anyway, I say let's get out of here and go to Asha. I tell her I'll give her R400 for one session at Asha and one more at my apartment. She says she's never been and let's check it out. PN tab was R1600 something for: 4 cocktails for me, 2 for her, entry, gum, and takeout. Also, there are no "girl drinks" and girls are not required to or encouraged to have drinks purchased for them.

Vagabundo1
08-26-25, 03:58
These Germans were idiots on several points.

First, Copa is in the middle of 3 favelas (to quote a local, ann amari, who is smart, and who lives in a favela) as to why it is not safe.

Second, if a visitor to Rio wants part of the outdoor / dining experience, there are active whatsapp groups for hiking, which is one of the best things to do in Rio, and which attract lots of gringas, with whom Vagabundo has had some of his best days. Prainha / Mirante do caete is particularly good, and easy.

But that is playing the long game.


So many stupid tourists in Rio. Two German tourists went for a night-time swim in Copacabana. Some thieves robbed their clothes and belongings. The thieves were caught by police.

https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2025/08/20/turistas-alemaes-sao-assaltados-e-deixados-nus-em-copacabana.ghtml

Sidenote: I do recommend evening picknicks in Copacabana beach. However go before midnight while there are plenty of people around. As I always stay one block from the beach me and a GF prepare some nice food and snacks, a cooler with wine, cold beer, music / loudspeakers, chairs and make some gin tonics. It's wonderful with the night breeze from the ocean. As always you just have to stay alert.

RichTheFact
08-26-25, 04:25
It's my first time in Rio, first time in Brazil. I'm a Medellin vet tho. Like, a trip every 6-8 weeks for the last 3 years straight. Okay, so after catching like 4 flights and over 24 hours in transit I finally got here early Friday morning. Wasn't able to sleep on the plane so I went zombie mode and slept like all day, finally getting out a little after 8 pm or so, grabbing a bite to eat at the "Coisas de Bamba" on the beachfront. Got the carne kabob a cocktail and the french fries. Waitresses. Hot. They had live music and dancing.

So I get here. I'm taking pictures and shit. Sharing them and shit. And from my status updates on WhatsApp, I get a message from a chick that I know from Medellin who is a dance instructor out there and is in town for a competition this week. She's whatever. Maybe a Colombia 6, so like. A USA 8. She's a lesbian, but I've banged her out over various trip, sometimes randomly, sometimes repeatedly. We're cool, in Medellin we regularly have threesomes with chicks and I usually throw her like 50 bones (200 k Colombian).

So she texts me, and I'm like. Fuck. Should I hang out with her? Is this like a bringing "sand to the beach" type of situation? Or, is it more like. Bringing a Sand SHOVEL to the beach type of situation? Will this hinder me? Or can she be useful to me?? Hmmmm, I wonder. So anyways, we make plans for the next day, Saturday. I spent the morning at the beach, as it is said. "Looking at fat bundas", and then at night we link up at Coisas de Bamba, have some food, they play live music, she dances. Basically shits on everyone there and becomes the spectacle, as she's a dance instructor who knows Samba, Salsa, everything. Whatever. We go out to Lapa. Late as fuck. Like, order Uber 2 am. It's cool; it's whatever. A Shit ton of people in the streets at that hour, I'm hearing only Portugese being spoken; whatever. We go into a club, it's right there next to that gas station and shit, across from Up House I think. Is Up House a strip club or what? Is it any good? Anyways, we go to this place across the street. 10 reales cover to get in. They give you this credit card looking thing with a bar code on the back. You don't pay to get in the club. You pay afterward when you are leaving. If you want drinks, they scan the card the doorman gave you, and at the end of the night before you leave, you turn in your card and pay the balance you have put on it from your purchases. I threw that shit out. Bartender is like, "NO!! You have to keep the card. You can't lose it!" My bad.

So, the club is whatever. It has potential for sure. But at this very moment its lame. It's packed as fuck, but no one is dancing. It's fucking weird. So I get drinks. We fuckin dance. Drawing attention I suppose. Suppose. Wtf. Everywhere she goes she draws attention, she's a professional fucking dancer. I notice. The dudes in here are fuckin lame. I mean, there's 4 hot ass chicks around this table, big ass titties, fat asses, pretty and shit. Everything. Yet, no one approaches them. It's like they think they're not worthy or something, like they're scared of rejection or whatever. So yeah, the dudes don't dance, they're pretty much just standing around. Whatever. After about a hour or so, I go to get us more drinks. Some dude is talking to my lesbo chick friend; Oh yeah. Her name is Lina. I'm like whatever, she's a lesbo, she's not my chick, whatever. She turns to me and says, "This guy wants to know if he can record me dancing in the upstairs area (where it's like fucking empty, and there's like no one), so they can use it for promotions on their social media. " Hmmm. Sounds fuckin lame to me. I look up, and it's just the DJ is up there and like one or two other security dudes overlooking dance floor, all dark and shit. I tell her "Yeah, that's fine. As long as they pay you. " I mean, it's about the principle, what the fuck, I was always taught: "You get what you pay for, give me my money, what the fuck I'm GON STAY FOR? Anyways, so I continue doing my thing, vibing in my own fucking world. Clean ass Baby Blue Nike sweat shorts / zip up hoodie combo that I got at Nike Outlet before leaving. (the hoodie is tied around my waist cause it's so fuckin hot inside). I'm dancing, drinking my beer and shit. I'll admit. Stealing glances up top. Nothing happening, they're just standing close talking and shit, like two fucking queers. It's been like 5 minutes or so. She texts me: "If they don't pay me anything I'm not going to do it. " I text back: "Whether they pay you or not, I'm out of here in 10 minutes. " I mean shit. I'm not going to be standing around here with my dick in my hand. I'm the dick and dick runs the world. So anyways.

She comes down finally at like the 8 minute mark. . And en breve; Well, It was a ploy, duh. And a lame one. She was like. Yeah, the dude was all "I'm the owner of this place and yada yada yada. " And she's like. "Yeah, sure. He's the owner, some fat fuck, who's going to be here at like 4 in the morning in a club that's thinning out with no one dancing. Right. " Because mind you, we didn't even order the Uber to Lapa until like 2-3 am. Shit stays open til like fuckin 6 am probably, cause when we left at 5, we weren't the last ones to bounce out, and we were able to watch the sunrise off the ocean at 6:10 am. I googled that shit to see what time it would be at. I mean, since we were already awake and shit. I'm a West Coast dude, so I only get to see the sun SET on the Ocean. Long fucking story, slighty less long. Well, She tells me that the short fat fuck "owner" was like: "Oh tell your friend to come up, blah blah blah, he can come up here too if he wants. " HAHAHAHA. FUCK THAT. She knows how I am. In fact, I've shit canned her before, and brutally, so she knows better than to send me some stupid ass message saying come up to this fuckin sausage party. Uhhhh no. I'm not going to feel fucking special being up there with 3 dudes and her in "VIP". Ho please. So then I'm like wtf did you take so long for? What were yeall talking about for so long then? And she's like. They were using Google translate to go back and forth between Spanish and Portuguese to have their conversation. Oh Gawd. Setting: So now, we're outside talking about this, sitting at the food arts and shit by the arches. So we order a Caipirinha and some street food, that spiral pasta stuff topped with like ground beef spaghetti style with fries and shit. We eat that and I order a Uber at like 5:30 am after the sunset and banging her out I xoom her like 50 bucks afterwards, cause well, it's always been like that, ever since MDE days for years I've known her now. Plus let's face it, she's out here on a shoestring budget, and well. I sure as shit aint. I'm on vacation. If I got to ball Ima fuckin ball. If not, even better. I mean, I'm not frivolous or wasteful, but I don't deny myself when I get the opportunity to travel. My boy would call this a simp move.

So anyways, we saw the sunrise, got some videos, banged, whatever. Wake up at like fuckin 4 pm later that day. We exit my place at like 7 pm, head to the beach, eat at a fire ass restaurant. We walk for a bit, then download the app for those Whoosh scooters. Oh yeah, the dude renting me the airbnb has a problem with guests. Fuck him. I get a new spot, request a cancellation to get 50% of each unused night back (per his own fuckin policy). He doesn't want to accept the cancellation request but he wants me out. Fuck that. I'm not going anywhere. So we scooter around and shit. She's tapped in to Instagram and all that shit, I don't have it. She finds a place called at bailabailabr. Fiesta Latina. We mob out there on scotters at like midnight, it's about 3 km away, 100 reales cover to get in. I'm like. Are there people inside? Door people, dude and chick, say yes. Fuck it, let's go. You walk in then go downstairs; hella fucking people.

Downstairs it's a big ass dance area on one side of the staircase and the bar on the other, pretty open floor plan, not too hard to navigate around if there's not a lot of people, but again, its like midnight and there's a fuck ton. The first thing I see is 4 hot bitches by the bar, (what my boy would call "super dupers" as in like that Super Woman * big ass tits, and big fucking asses. Oh yeah, and fucking pretty in the face.) so we got titties all out and shit, one of them is doing a little dance trying to draw my attention I think. Whatever, me and Lina find a spot. We dance. Get some good videos and shit. She's all stepping and twerking all professional and shit to songs by Shakira and Bad Bunny and J Balvin, singing the lyrics and whatever. So yeah, this was last night. I look up next to the DJ who is basically at dance floor level, a maybe a foot or two higher and I see this hot ass "black" (which here is more like a caramel) chick in booty shorts that works there, dancing on stage next to this chick DJ, who was actually getting down pretty fucking tough on the "turntables", well for a chick that is. And obviously this black chick (who has absolutely tremendous ass, neck length tight kinky hair, tight abdominals, and who is moving like she's the love child of a stripper and the Tazmanian Devil) is contracted just to dance and, well, as my idol Lloyd Christmas would say. "Put out the viiiibe. " Cause yeah, she's fucking tearing it the fuck down. Like epic style.

So whatever, we finish our first round of drinks and I go for more. Oh yeah, in this place as well it's like. 40% of the people dancing, the rest standing around and shit or maybe doing a little back and forth rocking motion. Even so, it's still like 20 times more poppin than the place we went to in Lapa the night before. So, I go get a second round. You order from a chick who's got the payment machine thingy just to the side of the base of the stairs, it prints a receipt, and you take that to the bar and they give you what it says. Only problem is, there's this fucking Brazilian dude in front of me and his CC just got declined. He tries again, declined again. And then again. No go. So then this fucker pulls out a wallet stuffed with fucking cards. And tries another. Declined. And then another. WTF. I tell the chick in Spanish, cause I'm fluent and she's not. "Can I order two beers please, I promise mine will work. And it does. Cool. I get the beers and go back to the dance floor. There's some lame ass looking dude talking to Lina. I set our beers down on the table, she turns towards me, he turns towards her, which now means he turns towards me, I grab his hand to shake it and before I can say "Que onda amigo, como estas?" he blurts out: "Soy Mexicano. " Yeah okay. Well I'm from Calfornia. But during the pandemic I went to Guadalajara, Mexico in August of 2020 with all the other rejects and lost souls of the world who met up there since it was the only place letting people in, and ended up living there until early 2023. So I say (in perfect fuckin Mexican Spanish) "Ahhhh ok, what part?" he says: "JALISCO! Guadalajara! I say: "Aaaaahhh ok, what part? Tlaquepaque?, Tonala?, Zapopan?, Americana. ?" he says: "Tlaquepaque". I say "Ahhhhhh, (yo) Arcos de Zapopan" - which is like a place you do not fucking go to in Guadalajara. Like not even if you fucking live in Guadalajara. Unless you want to buy drugs that is. So, I used to go there a lot. So anyways, he hears this, looks up at me, nods, shakes my hand, and does a fucking about face. Full Military style. As if I was General Patton and he was the private I just told to go get my jock strap. So I tell her what I told him, and she laughs and said, "Yeah I told him you were my husband and that you were crazy and that just for talking to him, I was risking you possibly murdering me. " Which reminds me. Outside the Lapa club, the night before, while recounting the fat fuck's attempt, she mentioned that one time in Medellin some dude was sending her table hella drinks and shit, and finally came up to her out of exasperation and was like: "I'm sending you all these drinks, why aren't you talking to me? Don't you know who I am?" She says: She told him, deadpan: "I'm married. And my husband just got released from prison for killing someone. " And the dude fucking scats. So I'm like yeah. Let's not be going around telling nobody that fucking story out here in these parts, eh? I might have got lucky this time, but wtf. Again, this isn't even my or anything. So yeah.

Anyways, I see the hot black chick, the ebony fucking queen dancer and she's going up the stairs, I catch her attention, and do the praying hands, nod the head: "Thank yooooooou", and slip her a dead president. An american one. But one that graces a denomination of not super great value. Ok. Fuck it. It was Andrew Jackson. Was he even a president? Meh. Whatever. So she's like got this confused, paused look on her face a bit cause I did catch her in the act of running up the stairs after all. Hmm. Well, it WAS folded in half. And then folded in half again so. Maybe she thought it was my number on a post-it or some shit. She just runs up the stairs. As she ascends I stare at her magnificent ass reminding me with every step she takes and impact that it absorbs of why I am so happy I was born with a cock.

So anyways, I go back to Lina, and we continue dancing and shit. A little while later the black chick comes back downstairs to do more dancing I suppose. You know Get the people GOING. But this time, she sees me, runs up, hugs me and gives me that little fucking heart emoji thing or whatever that chicks and fucking queers do with their fingers. I do the fucking Mr. Miyagi again. You know. Prayer hand and bowing and shit. You know, Whacks off and shit. Like, All the time. Chronic masturbator. So anyways. I take out my phone, put it to record and yell to her over the music, in Spanish: "Give me a little dance!, like 10 seconds, 30 seconds. " Hmmm. She seems to understand a bit of Spanish, because on fucking cue, the * starts breaking it. The fuck. Down. Ass and tits and short kinky hair and abs and pussy lips gyrating. Not sure about the pussy lips but most likely due to my presence, well. The presence of the cash and shit that is it has definitely has that pussy feeling right. So, I get a decent video of her then after about 20 seconds, I smile like "Thank You" and go all Mr. Miyagi again, and then immediately give her the cold shoulder to turn back to the bar where they're preparing my 2 drinks in the gay ass souvenir cups that I just paid like 18 reals for. Wtf is that anyways? Like $2? Meh. Whatever. Who fucking knows eh? Well I better know, I better fucking learn. And fast. So yeah, I turn the fuck away and never look back as if she had the plague and I go to Lina and show her the video. Lina sees and now she wants to bang the chick. So a few minutes later when I see her again, I approach and type in the google translate machine in Spanish asking her if she likes chicks and how much and shit; Well, it comes out in Portuguese looking pretty fucking similar spelled out but sounding entirely fucking different when its spoken; so she reads it. Mind you I also have (between my hand holding the phone and the phone case) a crispy ben franklin folded over, only once this time. She seems the big orange numbers 100. And nods, eagerly. Damn. I might have just fucked that up. According to this board, there is an entirely possible chance that she would have taken less. A lot less. Meh. Whatever. I'll file that number away for later I suppose but, according to my boy, that play would have probably been considered another simp move.

Fuck it. We finish our drinks and we leave, time: like 3:30 am. We walk back to go get the Whoosh scooters from where we parked them, and mob it back to the Airbnb location doing the full slalom side to side through the empty street lanes of our lady senhora copacabana until we get back to our spot near the tunnel. Wtf. MY SPOT near the tunnel that is. Hmmmmm. So we get back, go upstairs, and I bang her out. Again. Except this time I don't give her no money because wtf. This * is now starting to impose on my fucking vacation yo, my first time in Rio, the place where I've been reading about for like a month and how they got the best blowjobs in the world to be had and shit, and well, she just gives good blowjobs. But you see, I didn't come all the way from Fucking California to Rio de Janeiro for just "good" blowjobs okay. No. I came for the fucking best blowjobs. The best. So we get done, and the airbnb has two rooms, so I tell her to go sleep in the other one. You see, the night before, I woke up in the middle of the night out of a dead fucking sleep dreaming of toxic waste and raw sewage. Hmmmm. I think this fucking * dutch ovened me. Man. Either that or the * farted so fucking brutally that it woke me up. WTF. Or maybe it was me. But damn, imagine that. Having a fucking fart so potent that you wake yourself up. That shit'll burn the hair out of your fuckin nostrils. In any event, I couldn't take the chance again. So she was fuckin out.

Plus I'm a fucking vampire. Plus I'm like fucking ADHD to the MAX. So unless I take a shit ton of Benzos, Trazadone, Zanaflex, fucking. Lyrica. All prescribed of course, and I'm here with my pill bottles and all. I don't fucking sleep. I mean I can stay up for like 2-3 days straight. No drugs. On drugs? Holy fuck. Let's not even talk about those days. So anyways, now the is talking about Sugarloaf and shit, planning activities and shit, and how tomorrow Tuesday the 26, and on the 28th there's a DJ that will be playing up at the top in the hours leading up to sunset. So now she wants to go. Better yet, she wants US to go. Hmm. Ok. So I'll admit it. You know that feeling you get, when you walk out of a house at like 2:14 pm after banging out the hottest chick in there and you step outside and you're like, "Uhhhhhhh, okay. Now what?" Hmmmmm. A bit of emptiness and shit. Or maybe that just because for me that experience happened while I was in the gringo gulch in San Jose, CR, and generally that's just a depressing, shitty ass looking place to be. In any event, I'm not going to lie, it's kinda chill having her around cause for the most part she just stays in the other room, and honestly since I got here my schedule has been fucked. Now instead of walking around talking to myself all the time, I talk to her sometimes too. Mainly, I still just talk to myself though. But she knows how I am.

So anyways, my fear is (was) that my trip is about to go to shit. You see, my plan was to use BundaLove's Trip Report as a foundation for the places I'm going to hit up on this my maiden voyage trip to Rio. We're talking, Monte Carlo, 4 x 4, Copa583, Solarium, all that shit. Although solarium sounds expensive. As for Centaurus, I'm reading mixed reviews, great place, low quality talent. Hmmm, I'll have to see. Anyways. So I haven't gone to anywhere yet. And that kinda pisses me off. So today, I'm here on the forum doing some research and shit and she comes up behind me. Sees all the ads for chicks and is like: "What are you looking at, what are you looking for?" I'm like wtf. * I don't answer nobody's fucking questions in my own place. Oh well. Luckily she doesn't understand English. Typical. And so I scroll to the post about the Germans getting their clothes stole, while skinny dipping like two fucking Germans probably would. I copy and paste it to google translate, she reads it, says OOOOOOOHHH!! And I tell her "Yeah * (except without the * part) I say yeah, it's a forum where people exchange travel tips and since its all good here just like in Colombia advertisers are won't to buy some fucking ad space, wtf. Ohhh! Which reminds me. So yeah, earlier in the day the * goes out to the beach. Which is cool. A * in the beach. Because again, I'm sleeping like 3 hours a night right now, and eventually it all catches up to you. Plus I'm in my 4th decade of life and this * is 22. So yeah.

Anyways, she says that while she was out at the * she saw a Colombian who got robbed / scammed by one of those vendors who sells the shit on the blankets by the beach. And since she's Colombian too, well of course, she got the whole scoop. Says Police showed up and everything. So what she says happened is this: The Colombian kid goes to buy from a vendor. The vendor rings up 25 reais on the payment accepter thing. But It doesn't work, the transaction doesn't go through. So then, the vendor calls his vendor buddy over, another guy with a fuckin. Wtf are those called anyways? Fuck it. Handheld point of sale. Anyways, the other guy comes up, supposedly rings up 25 reais too, the Colombian pays, it goes through all well and good, and he takes his little fucking bracelet made of sea shells and walks off. However, a few moments later he notices on his banking app that the charge wasn't actually for 25 reais, but rather 2,500 reais!! So I look this up. I'm like holy shit. $460 bucks eh? Fuck. Poor guy. He tries to "support" the local "artisans" and wtf thanks do you get? Hmmm. A stick right up the ass. Right on. From now on, IF I buy anything from anywhere / anyone that doesn't have a actual store front, I'm using my shit Capital One CC with the $500 limit, and only busting out the heavy plastic in places of repute. Now I don't know if they put 2,500 and he misread it and just paid it like a dumbass or if they have some sort of way to hack the machine so that you input one amount in the GUI of the POS but really are charging a different amount in the background? Like hacker shit yo. Like the movie when Angelina Jolie was young and hot and had that tight ass in the leather motorcycle pants. Or maybe that was Crash Override, maybe he had the tight pants on. Anyways, if so. Like my idol Lloyd Christmas would say when he sees a tight ass, "he must work out. " In any event, the Colombian. He's fucked. Figuratively, that is. So yeah, that might be a thing out there, so heads up. Oh yeah. And the cops came, she said they didn't do shit. Couldn't understand the fucker. And weren't about to wait for google translate to get all the facts of the case.

So yeah, right now at this very moment, I spent 6 bucks to Uber this * to a place called Pedra do Sal. Apparently, there's a Samba thing going on there. And since she's a dance instructor in Poblado, Medellin, she meets all the tourists and shit and gets their contacts and has people all over the world and whatnot. Yeah, She also gets her other clients from there to I'm pretty sure. Cause, I think dance lessons are like 20 bucks an hour or something, and she miiiiiight get to keep half that. That is, she might do 2-3 lessons a day, or maybe 4 or 5 if it is an exceptionally busy day. Meh. My math aint great, but. That sounds pretty shitty to me. But then again, I'm American so. Maybe in Medellin that's pretty fucking good. No, it is.

So yeah, anyways. Last night around 1 am or so, while we were cruising the scooters towards the outer extremity of Copa beach near the "little big rock "and those stairs and little restaurants and shit, I saw that every now and then there would be a hot ass * sitting on a bench, ever few benches. I would give them the monger eye as I passed by them following behind Lina on the scooter path, and they were game you could see it. However, I'm also thinking these bitches carry a little more risk involved. Not STDs or anything. Those I can handle.

So yeah, I saw the video of the British dude stumbling on the beach. Read the article and shit. They say that the ingredients of "Goodnight, Cinderella" is essentially Ketamine and Clonazepam. Well shit, I've been on a Clonazepam prescription for 4 years now, and my tolerance is through the roof, in fact I don't even take that shit to sleep anymore I just take it randomly whenever the fuck I feel like every so often throughout the day for anxiety and shit. And ketamine. Well. If you've ever been to Medellin, than you know what I mean, when I say Pink. Purple. Yellow. (Jolly Rancher, El cuido de Leon, Sonic, Magic, etc.) Basically, ketamine is the shit. Out of body, fucking galactical shit. They've tried to drug me in Medellin before. Scopolamine me. But you see, Benzos are so much more powerful than Scope that, to me the little drop off is like a tickle to my dick. I literally take a cocktail of like 8 pills just to sleep. And when I go line for line in Medellin with these hoes who have tried to drug me before; you see I require any chick who brings me drugs to do them first and do just as much as me, with me. And If they can't or won't than I just say fuck it. I don't want the shit then wtf, you won't even do your own drugs? Hmmmm. So, they go line for line. Got to make the sale after all. Then they all end up passing out before me. And then I'll be there all awake by myself and shit, watching YouTube music videos and the ABC World News Tonight with David Muir, parked next to some stupid * who just Scopolamined herself. Wtf. So basically, I said all that to say this: If that is what is the substance of "Goodnight, Cinderella" Clonazepam and Ket. Well then, I say to these bitches: "Drug me. PLEAEEEEASSSEEE! You see, * you'the be doing me a fucking favor. Save me from having to look for fucking Ketamine while I'm here. Fuck. Anyways, that's probably nonsense, and it's most likely just a shit ton of Benzo and a bit of Ket and it probably would fuck me up. Anyways.

So yeah. That's where I'm at. Sorry if I don't have anything yet from any of "casas" as we call them in Medellin, or the *houses as I just like to say, generalizing and shit. Mmmmmh, tonight, I'm going to see what's up with some of them hoes on the beachfront I think. This new Airbnb is cooler, not too far from Tower 3 or whatever on the beach, and its fucking plush. Great furniture for fucking too. It's nice, and I'm sure the lady who runs it wouldn't approve of me bringing working girls here but, the doormen are youngsters who seem like they could keep it on the under if I slip them a 50 real note or some shit every time I bring a hoe up to the room. Lina knows what's up. See, I had to check her ass. I said look: "I live in a fucking world okay? And it's called: My Fucking World. And in My Fucking World I run shit. And anybody that doesn't like that, can Get The Fuck On. " Like I said, I've had to shitcan her before. Honestly, I don't even know how she got back in. Oh yeah that's right, she started taking stripper dance lessons and said she wanted to dance for me. Also, Her fucking hips are so powerful and she has so much control over them and her core that she can basically sit on the cock and milk the nut out of you, you don't even have to fucking do anything but pop a Viagra and Cialis and lay back and let old faithful be brought to full eruption all up inside her fucking pussy and shit, cause we fuck raw. Anyways.

So yeah, I'll be here for another week and a half or so. I told the * I need to do my own thing for a while so after posting this I'm going to look through some more trip reports and get my lineup of *houses ready for tomorrow. So yeah, I'm pretty fucking excited I got to admit. I downloaded the entire pimsleur Brazil Portuguese course off bittorrent before I got here and got busy in the days leading up. But I only put 4 lessons on my galaxy phone. The rest are on my home pc. Fuck. So yeah, the communication thing is kinda going to suck; I always used to laugh at dudes who used the translator and shit and would joke about how lame that shit is with my Medllin chickens, and now I'm that guy. Go fuckin figure huh.

Well, If there's anyone else who is currently out here and who would be down to recommend some spots with some good looking hoes at decent prices or just go winging and shit let me know. I think tomorrow I'm going to do 4 x4 and Monte Carlo for sure. Hey, earlier I read something about there's a place where the Brazilian porn stars can be found, but not to trip out too much and overpay, because well. I guess here, it's normal to see the chicks you see in porn, readily, willing, and available for your service. If anyone can remind where that place is, the one with the porn star chicks, that would be much appreciated. Ha, One of my good partners on this forum would roast my ass for all the simp moves I been making while I've ben here thus far but LOL. The trip is still young, and it can definitely still be redeemed and legendary I think. Damn, I feel better now. This was like therapeutic and shit. But I'm trying to get this trip back on track. And FAST. Anyways, I'll try to post an update after tomorrow's activities when I get done mongering. May the Monger God bless you all; I'm out to see what's up with the dangerous hoes on the beachfront benches circa 1 am and shit.

Factor OUT.

Derdeered
08-26-25, 10:25
Per hour?

That is crazy.I will be therr at the end of November and if you have some amazing talent that you would like to set me up with I'm all in. LOL I'm even open to meeting up for a drink or two or 20. LOL.

Bravo
08-27-25, 20:53
0 yet but i am planning for probably 2026 when i will had some free time for it. Ibis is a brand with hotel in 110 country. I booked them in other country and the pattern was the same: girls friendly, near action, not too expensive, clean, comfortable enough to sleep well. They have an apps, very uselss to book and communicate with them.You might want to double check with IBIS before booking a room. They are Girl friendly, not "GIRLS" friendly!! Meaning that you are able to register ONE female to stay with you, but any additional female, they will charge you a full night's price to allow her to spend the evening. I have had hotels issue a fee for like 75 R but Ibis is crazy. If you are paying 75 dollars a night, if you have a second girl, they will charge you an additional 75 dollars for her! Fucking rip off!

ZofoMofo
08-27-25, 22:52
You might want to double check with IBIS before booking a room. They are Girl friendly, not "GIRLS" friendly!! Meaning that you are able to register ONE female to stay with you, but any additional female, they will charge you a full night's price to allow her to spend the evening. I have had hotels issue a fee for like 75 R but Ibis is crazy. If you are paying 75 dollars a night, if you have a second girl, they will charge you an additional 75 dollars for her! Fucking rip off!I tried to contact IBIS with an email about this a month ago regarding their policy. They still haven't responded to me (despite my email being in Portuguese).

Too bad because the rooms at IBIS seem to be affordable as compared to other known girl-friendly hotels in Copa.

I ended up booking an air bnb for my next trip when the owner / manager said visitors are not a problem for them.

Vagabundo1
08-28-25, 02:13
Vagabundo should really think about a business, I get so many of these types of requests.

But that would mean.

You see it is a conflict of interest with my other vocations, or avocations as it were.

I am a Rabbi Yogi Berra in the Mormon Temple in Barra, out by posto 9 on Avenida das Americas, where we worship the United States, and we have as many wives as we want, all paid by Mossad.

But, fuck, what do I know. Anne Amari just walked out on me because she saw some conversations with other girls, porn stars, whom I am talking to and asking to fuck bareback. Lost an uber and a few drinks. What do I know about women? But in many ways it is better. She wants to have kids with Vagabundo, but as George Shultz said, you should pick a rich girl to knock up.

So, listen, you want to go to the Centro Prives with Vagabundo, you just let me know. I need to go get some fresh meat anyway. I mean, those bitches will like track you down to your bible study on Wednesdays in the temple and be all like yo Padre Vagabundo has been fucking hoars up the ass, bare.

Fuuuucckc.


I will be therr at the end of November and if you have some amazing talent that you would like to set me up with I'm all in. LOL I'm even open to meeting up for a drink or two or 20. LOL.

Questner
08-28-25, 04:00
You might want to double check with IBIS before booking a room. They are Girl friendly, not "GIRLS" friendly!! Meaning that you are able to register ONE female to stay with you, but any additional female, they will charge you a full night's price to allow her to spend the evening. I have had hotels issue a fee for like 75 R but Ibis is crazy. If you are paying 75 dollars a night, if you have a second girl, they will charge you an additional 75 dollars for her! Fucking rip off!There are 3 IBIS in Copa, 1 budget, 1 posto 2 and 1 in Posto 5. Each may have its own guest policy. Which one charged for a guest? Was it on double occupancy?

Vagabundo1
08-28-25, 06:32
Yeah, that is a good point.

When are you back in rio, senor bravo?

You are THE most squared away navigator for centro prive runs.

Which basically means you need to be on gparena.net and make a nice, organized little list like a IT admin has passwords for his domains in one organized little cheat sheet. RB156, rb185, emporiodobanho, casa 11,13, 15. The secret terma.

It is like, Rabbi Padre Vagabundo Yogi Berra is like a Surgeon General for Men with Rich World Responsibilities, mainly angry wives and their daughters and sons off in some other place, and all these male sapiens penis in hand come to Rio de Janeiro / Brazil to get their bare naked pussy for 30 bucks, cheaper than mcdonalds value meals.

And Rabbi Surgeon General Bombeiro Vagabundo is here to accompany you in your few days or weeks of freedom before being shipped off in the flight back to pussy prison where inflation is causing deaths of despair among the rich world's other than super rich men.

https://deathsofdespair.com/

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0691217076/?bestFormat=true&k=deaths%20of%20despair%20and%20the%20future%20of%20capitalism&ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-pd-bk-d_k0_1_13_de&crid=UEIC1JJ95HWM&sprefix=deaths%20of%20des


You might want to double check with IBIS before booking a room. They are Girl friendly, not "GIRLS" friendly!! Meaning that you are able to register ONE female to stay with you, but any additional female, they will charge you a full night's price to allow her to spend the evening. I have had hotels issue a fee for like 75 R but Ibis is crazy. If you are paying 75 dollars a night, if you have a second girl, they will charge you an additional 75 dollars for her! Fucking rip off!

Xpartan
08-28-25, 08:02
I tried to contact IBIS with an email about this a month ago regarding their policy. They still haven't responded to me (despite my email being in Portuguese).

Too bad because the rooms at IBIS seem to be affordable as compared to other known girl-friendly hotels in Copa.

I ended up booking an air bnb for my next trip when the owner / manager said visitors are not a problem for them.There is more than one Ibis in Rio, I believe. The one that's close to Posto 2 has extremely depressing rooms. Not dirty or anything, just awful. I'd rather get a cheap well-reviewed Airbnb in the same price range.

Axel Heyst
08-28-25, 12:33
You might want to double check with IBIS before booking a room. They are Girl friendly, not "GIRLS" friendly!! Meaning that you are able to register ONE female to stay with you, but any additional female, they will charge you a full night's price to allow her to spend the evening. I have had hotels issue a fee for like 75 R but Ibis is crazy. If you are paying 75 dollars a night, if you have a second girl, they will charge you an additional 75 dollars for her! Fucking rip off!I have never stayed at an IBIS hotel in Brazil and probably never will. But what if a guest unregisters his Friday's girl and the next morning tries to register a different girl for Saturday or Sunday? At the very minimum, even a luke warm guest friendly hotel would go along with this register / unregister BS which would still deter me from staying at this hotel because of the inconvenience and the hotel's hostile and negative attitude towards me as a customer. The main reason for this guest policy is that management just does not want mongers to stay at their hotel, but will allow it, wink wink, nod nod, for an outrageous amount of extra cash, so fuck this hotel policy on principal. They obviously don't want me as a guest.

Mr Enternational
08-28-25, 15:08
There is more than one Ibis in Rio, I believe. The one that's close to Posto 2 has extremely depressing rooms. Not dirty or anything, just awful. I'd rather get a cheap well-reviewed Airbnb in the same price range.All Ibis are the same. I have stayed at Posto 2, 5, the one downtown, and several others around the country and in European Thailand before.

Airbnb is the way to go. I mostly only stay at Ibis for like 1 day or overnight near an airport. I had to stay at the one downtown Carnaval 2020 because that was the only thing available and it was the cheapest place for Carnaval.

Durant
08-29-25, 01:10
Hi- planning for a week trip wants to stay in Copacabana, any advice on hotels which are girl guest friendly. Help much appreciated.

SethMacfarlane
08-29-25, 06:44
Hi- planning for a week trip wants to stay in Copacabana, any advice on hotels which are girl guest friendly. Help much appreciated.The JW Marriot is a little older but still a good property. You'll have no problem bringing ladies in. If you book, say Hi to Alberto at the bar. He's a cool fucking dude with tons of info if you need any kind of guidance. Whether it be where to eat, drink, sight to see or ladies. He lived in the US for some time, great English.

Sperto
08-29-25, 14:06
Airbnb is the way to go. I mostly only stay at Ibis for like 1 day or overnight near an airport. I had to stay at the one downtown Carnaval 2020 because that was the only thing available and it was the cheapest place for Carnaval.I've stayed at Ibis downtown when I had an overnight in Rio and an early flight from Santos Dumont. Really boring rooms.

This year when I arrived in Rio had a very early flight the next day from Santos Dumont to São Luís. We stayed at b&b Hotel Santos Dumont. Great rooms and a loverly view of the ocean and the sugarloaf. 362 reais for a double room.

https://www.hotel-bb.com/en/hotel/santos-dumont

Vagabundo1
08-29-25, 23:52
Way back Cartman passed on CPF as a defined term.

Cost per Fuck.

To which Vagabundo has added PM, which means Policia Militar to some, but for me is per minute.

Thus.

Cpfpm 230 r /50 solid 4. 8 ish.

My CPF is 4. 80000000.

What is your CPF PM?

Not a bad metric.

If you're not fucking for over 6 minutes, then ask yourself why.

If you're looking for a measure, say your CPF when talking about all these scandalo or riosexsite or barravips girls.

Chicago85
08-30-25, 02:35
The JW Marriot is a little older but still a good property. You'll have no problem bringing ladies in. If you book, say Hi to Alberto at the bar. He's a cool fucking dude with tons of info if you need any kind of guidance. Whether it be where to eat, drink, sight to see or ladies. He lived in the US for some time, great English.Just a heads up that my experience at JW Marriott has been mixed with bringing girls in. I have been stopped, but it's generally been when I made eye contact with the desk during the day, and when I had less discretely clothed girls at night. I find that they tend to let you pass if you have 'plausable deniability' that the girls is an escort. I suggest the girl be decently dressed, later at night, and hopefully your room is not a carousel of girls.

Axel Heyst
08-30-25, 13:13
Hey Vagabundo, CPF is one metric and I guess CPFpm is another, but it seems to me these metrics are only of use if one thinks every girl / every venue / every fuck is the same and thus can be compared and evaluated by simple a monetary stat. Sorry, but I do not accept the premise of your point of view. I wish I did because if I did it would save me a lot of money. KKK. But for starters, there is no way I consider the looks quality of my Scandallo girls to the average looks quality of say Prive girls. There is a huge difference. Then there is performance quality which can vary. Not all pretty girls perform well and same same for prive girls, but I will always prefer great sex with a pretty girl over great sex from an average or not so pretty girl. Still, I like variety of experiences and girls, so 3 out 6 days a week you will probably find me afternoon clinica hopping in SP and fooling around with Boate girls every night.

The one stat that I do think is important is knowing what the locals are paying in each venue for a certain quality of girl. I do not like to overpay. But the basic error you are making with CPF is assuming all girls are equal, all situations are equal and everything can be reduced to a monetary comparison. For example: I will pay up to 350 br total for an afternoon session with a nice Aboboro clinica girl and later that night I might pay a Scandallo girl 1000 br for an hour session plus a 500 br entrance / partial consumable fee, and 350 br for a room or takeout OR I might invite my favorite repeat Scandallo girl over to my place and give her 1000 br for six or seven hours, plus spend 200 br and up for a decent bottle of dry red vino, 175 br for a few grams of reefer, plus $$$ for dinner at a favorite sushi or Brazilian place. It is more complicated that a simple CPF stat. But do what makes you happy. That's my philosophy and do not worry about the money as long as you have the money.

WC Fields 'I spent half my money on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The other half I wasted. '.


Way back Cartman passed on CPF as a defined term.

Cost per Fuck.

To which Vagabundo has added PM, which means Policia Militar to some, but for me is per minute.

Thus.

Cpfpm 230 r /50 solid 4. 8 ish.

My CPF is 4. 80000000.

What is your CPF PM?

Not a bad metric.

If you're not fucking for over 6 minutes, then ask yourself why.

If you're looking for a measure, say your CPF when talking about all these scandalo or riosexsite or barravips girls.

Nounce
08-30-25, 16:46
But do what makes you happy. That's my philosophy and do not worry about the money as long as you have the money.It's a useful measure but a philosophical one. It can be a measure of the price of happiness. One can spend 1 to achieve the same happiness as the other who has to spend 100. It also means choices. The one who has to spend more has limited choices and would likely limits his activities in limited areas, while the other can go anywhere and be surprised.

Both images are from earlier this month. One is in Centro for 20R. It's very good but they stopped putting gizzard in the soup a few years ago so it is not as good now. The other is a set in a Japanese restaurant for 200R. Both are equally good.

Vagabundo1
08-30-25, 21:06
As economist.com says (quoted in vagabubba's guide), whoring is a luxury.

But the cat is one so many of us know.

She just left with a cpf pm of 9.5.

Three pops.

450 and 120 for ifood / 60 minutes.

Off my 40 minutes on my last Saturday 100 minutes of fucking (or whenever I last saw her).

But still solid for being 89 years old.


Hey Vagabundo, CPF is one metric and I guess CPFpm is another, but it seems to me these metrics are only of use if one thinks every girl / every venue / every fuck is the same and thus can be compared and evaluated by simple a monetary stat. Sorry, but I do not accept the premise of your point of view. I wish I did because if I did it would save me a lot of money. KKK. But for starters, there is no way I consider the looks quality of my Scandallo girls to the average looks quality of say Prive girls. There is a huge difference. Then there is performance quality which can vary. Not all pretty girls perform well and same same for prive girls, but I will always prefer great sex with a pretty girl over great sex from an average or not so pretty girl. Still, I like variety of experiences and girls, so 3 out 6 days a week you will probably find me afternoon clinica hopping in SP and fooling around with Boate girls every night.

The one stat that I do think is important is knowing what the locals are paying in each venue for a certain quality of girl. I do not like to overpay..

Vagabundo1
08-31-25, 00:37
Damn, that Japanese restaurant looks good. Are you in town? The only thing that would be better is asa akira nude with my dick in her ass and her tongue in my ass.


It's a useful measure but a philosophical one. It can be a measure of the price of happiness. One can spend 1 to achieve the same happiness as the other who has to spend 100. It also means choices. The one who has to spend more has limited choices and would likely limits his activities in limited areas, while the other can go anywhere and be surprised.

Both images are from earlier this month. One is in Centro for 20R. It's very good but they stopped putting gizzard in the soup a few years ago so it is not as good now. The other is a set in a Japanese restaurant for 200R. Both are equally good.

Axel Heyst
09-01-25, 14:13
Here are 2 examples of CPD: One is expensive, and the other is not. Both are tasty, but there are specific times when I crave one over the other and vice a versa. It is kind of the same thing for me with an expensive Scan girl vs. A much less expensive clinica girl. Both are good at the appropriate time.

Vagabundo1
09-01-25, 20:32
Guacamole and sushi is optimal.

Vagabundo recommends living as close to Guacamole in olegario maciel in barra as possible, walking distance to the new love shack.

Weekly shopping list for groceries is.

From guanabarra on av das americas across from villagemall (the apple store), where you should live.

Creatine.

Salmao pedacios as cheap as possible.

Creatine.

Whey.

Mixed nuts with honey (mel) from agtal brand.

Finding a girl who doesn't smoke weed but does whey and creatine: worth its weight in gold, indeed, in Pix!

So we hit 90 minutes of actual penis in pussy fucking, so that makes cost per fuck per minute like 7 which is pretty good including delivery.


Here are 2 examples of CPD: One is expensive, and the other is not. Both are tasty, but there are specific times when I crave one over the other and vice a versa. It is kind of the same thing for me with an expensive Scan girl vs. A much less expensive clinica girl. Both are good at the appropriate time.

Combo
09-01-25, 20:38
Here are 2 examples of CPD: One is expensive, and the other is not. Both are tasty, but there are specific times when I crave one over the other and vice a versa. It is kind of the same thing for me with an expensive Scan girl vs. A much less expensive clinica girl. Both are good at the appropriate time.Perfect analogy.

Bravo
09-02-25, 03:20
There are 3 IBIS in Copa, 1 budget, 1 posto 2 and 1 in Posto 5. Each may have its own guest policy. Which one charged for a guest? Was it on double occupancy?I stayed at the IBIS in Centro, I don't know the guest policy of the places in Copa. I used to stay at posto 5 about 5 years ago, I loved it. I didn't even have to register the girl, I would just walk into the lobby and head left to the elevators, they didn't say anything at the desk. Then out of nowhere, they doubled their price! They used to be the same price as their centro location, but now they are double, so it's just cheaper to rent an apartment. ( I always book as double occupancy when I go to Rio)

Questner
09-02-25, 03:40
I stayed at the IBIS in Centro, I don't know the guest policy of the places in Copa. I used to stay at posto 5 about 5 years ago, I loved it. I didn't even have to register the girl, I would just walk into the lobby and head left to the elevators, they didn't say anything at the desk. Then out of nowhere, they doubled their price! They used to be the same price as their centro location, but now they are double, so it's just cheaper to rent an apartment. ( I always book as double occupancy when I go to Rio)Thank you. The prices went up dramatically, it's a fact. IBIS is part of Accor and always been guest friendly. However, I'm not aware of any updated list of GF hotels in Rio which also won't charge a joiner fee on double occupancy.

Vagabundo1
09-02-25, 12:15
Fish tacos with Brazilian hot mulattas is optimal, the world over, to wit.

In Tijuana, where Vagabundo served a tour in SWISS Navy intel, having been raised by Ilsa She Wolf of the SS in Lugano funded by a US Army Air Corps Lieutenant Colonel who parachuted into Lugano and fought the Lugano Lake Como mafia wars, the optimal post (or even skip) Hong Kong club agenda is:

-- Go to Pampas Churacuria (see images), find a hot Brazilian waitress with her kid in Tijuana trying to get across the border.

-- take her to the Hotel Lucerna, down the street.

-- and have the BEST fish of all types and Fish Tacos, which is something the Mexicans do better than any one in the world (their women are still second to Brazilian women in bed) at Vila Mariana.

Yes, Vagabundo is triggered by food and fucking.

That said, Tijuana as a sex destination definitely sucks balls. That said, anywhere in the world you go to find a good fuck, find the Brazilians.


Here are 2 examples of CPD: One is expensive, and the other is not. Both are tasty, but there are specific times when I crave one over the other and vice a versa. It is kind of the same thing for me with an expensive Scan girl vs. A much less expensive clinica girl. Both are good at the appropriate time.

Turgid
09-02-25, 13:38
......From guanabarra on av das americas across from villagemall (the apple store), where you should live.

Creatine.

Salmao pedacios as cheap as possible.

Creatine.

Whey.

Mixed nuts with honey (mel) from agtal brand.......Be careful in consuming these items. They may cause you to fuck too much.

ForroMambo
09-02-25, 20:52
Hi, I was on vacation in Rio for three weeks and went to Dolce Vita quite a few nights.

Entrance fee: 80 r.

Exit fee with a girl: 80 r.

If you invite a girl, the drink will be 100 are, they always order the most expensive one. That's an agreement with the place. They give them free drinks, but if they're invited, they order the most expensive one.

Maybe it's because it's low season, but there are about 20-30 women every night, level 5-8. The problem is, they're always the same ones. If you're there for one or two nights and you've picked up the phones, it's not worth coming back. No one new will show up. I found it very strange because there must be thousands of beautiful women in Rio. But last week I met a beautiful girl from Belem at Mabs who was in Rio for a while, and she told me they wouldn't let her into Dolce Vita. They told her they have 70 girls and don't need any more. They have a closed roster of girls. So I fucked the five who, in my opinion, were the best, and there wasn't much else to do there.

Best regards.

Vagabundo1
09-04-25, 11:09
Elisa Sanches has some kind of show tonight at Rua Buenos Aires 21. Details to follow.

Vagabundo is on various zap groups for local clubs, including club 21.

Vagabundo1
09-11-25, 11:45
Vagabundo had cat over for 4 hours, we fucked for 91 minutes, 3 pops, 450 r and 143 ifood for cost per fuck per minute about 6.5 ish.

Afterwards had dinner with Chicago 85 at pineapple on olegario maciel at barra, planning to go to classico beach club at posto 2 tomorrow, where the hoars like to hang out and I like to hang out with them and the beach is calm enough to swim.

Vagabundo1
09-12-25, 05:35
"Classico Beach Club women as good as Scandallo ".

- Chicago85, a tough grader.

Vagabundo went to Classico Beach Club, posto 2, Barra today with a long time solid wingman, senor Chicago. His main takeaway was "Classico Beach Club women as good as Scandallo " .

Not to bury the lede or lead as the papers say, but that was the main point.

We arrived mid afternoon, 14 h30 or so. We stayed until almost the market close, 17 h local. There were some real 10's, hot brazilian asses and all, some with rings on their fingers as wingman observed, but what the actual fuck does that mean at the go-to afternoon destination of the Perola Negra top tier girls.

So, the usual crawl for the tier 1 terma girls in Barra is:

Daylight, classico beach club (cost for fish sticks and some drinks was 238 r. Vagabundo, being a cheap charlie munger, brings his own mate / sun brewed iced tea, and makes a note to get a nespresso machine, which is how they brew the coffee there, to which vagabundo who was getting ready for 2 hours of jiu jitsu and muay thai later that day was drinking. It was a rare sunny day when the water was too rough for actual swimming.).

https://www.instagram.com/classicobeachclub/

Night, pineapple, olegario maciel (we went there last night, and the obvious higher end hoars were sitting next to us, and it would be easy to go for it. Cost for two salmon dinners and a brie appetizer and drinks was 300 r).

https://www.instagram.com/_pineappleoficial/

Vitrinni (or all in).

https://www.instagram.com/vitrinniloungerj/

That's all within walking distance, or as the locals like to do, bike itau. And it's within walking distance of vagabundo's new pad, which costs 60 usd / day first 2 months to account for deposit, and 40 usd / night for the next 10 months on a 1 year lease.

The new place in the observation of cat is better than the old place because.

1. bigger.

2. bigger bathroom, where two can shower, and fuck, standing up, as all good catholic school girls should lose their virginity, as vagabundo has deflowered at least one kunt who as bill joel sang. Sooner or later it comes down to fate. "Come out, Virginia, don't let me wait You Catholic girls start much too late Oh, but sooner or later, it comes down to fate I might as well be the one. ".

3. fuckable couch, as it folds out (that said vagabundo is a good tenant and covers the couch in a blanket).

4. balcony with direct sunlight (not to mention hammock hooks which is on the list).

One of the youtubers I like is Vagabond Awake, who notes in a video that watching the locals is a good guide.

https://youtu.be/iI2LBpdRMkw?si=Cv1zxmqvj711_KOW (that might not be the exact video).

Along those lines. The carioca diet is summed up by the menu at Megamatte -.

- tuna sandwiches.

- acai (add your whey protein).

- sun brewed tea (matte), get the box which makes 20 liters, it is a diuretic, it sucks the poison out of your system (relevant if you are training for 2 hours a day and the other athletes are 30 years younger college kids, and relevant if you are fucking for 1. 5 hours with girls who are likewise 25-30 years younger, which as I like to joke with cat is jiu jitsu).

Why do these kunts offer you weed and alcohol and other drinks?

Well, one obvious is to give them a chance to hit you with some knock out drug, good night cinderella, etc, but that is only one risk.

The other reason is to get you drunk so you can't fuck as long, and they are fucking for a living, so the ideal client is like a old rich doctor who can't fuck for a long time, and even less with alcohol in his system.

They are also marking up weed from the favela which they buy for 5 or 10 reais, and sell you for 50 r or 100 r, and in that culture, the drug dealer replaces the father, who himself is a motorista (moto boy) who has a dozen kids with 10 women, and the weed is shitty, pressed (with what, I have no idea or confidence), and an athlete like me gets a higher high from the runners high endorphin high of 2 hours of cardio, the highlight of which is having some hot Brazilian kick boxer punch me in the face (because as a dude, I really can't hit a woman in the face, though I have in muay thai, but even vagabundo doesn't like that). The highlight of practice is finding another female member of the team not only from my country, but my state, and making a new friend, and then going to the student dining hall afterwards for a 13 r highly nutritious meal, and then having 4 real friends, engineering students, and lawyers and a dining hall employee come over and carry on for an hour about biz plans, and life, and planning a real night out with the gang. I had made a plan to go to vitrinni with Chicago who messaged me to cancel right on time at 22 h, by which time I had already headed back to barra, and skipped the night out with the relatively poor, but fun, and super fit real friends from university, which as the saying goes, are priceless. Those are the dudes who will bury me as in the jorge amado novel "the double death of quincas water bray" whey, finally, I pass at 120 years old, at Copacabana beach, out in the fireworks, on a fisherman's boat with 1000 pounds of C4, right at the stroke of midnight.

The rest of my acquaintances from ISG are so hard up from escaping pussy prison for a parole of a few weeks that they are going to bang the next piece of tail, which is all fine, I was there for decades too.

Sperto
09-12-25, 05:43
Argentinean tourist found dead, police suspect "Boa Noite, Cinderela" scam. This far they don't have much information about the case.

https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/2025/09/7127975-turista-argentino-e-encontrado-morto-e-policia-suspeita-de-golpe-boa-noite-cinderela.html

One Eyed Man
09-13-25, 22:05
I stayed in Rio for six nights a couple of weeks ago. It was more of a vacation than a mongercation, so readers might come away a little disappointed.

Flight: I flew Latam downdon't really recommend. It was a 767 with narrow pitch--when the person in front leaned the seat back, I had about 4" of space in front of my nose. Fine otherwise.

Hotel: Stayed at the Pestana. Some people we know found it pricey at about $200 a night. Still, it's across the street from the beach, fairly close to the subway, very clean and comfortable. It's cheaper to book directly with the hotelI paid the Expedia tax. They are aggressive about guests: I brought a civilian in, and security pulled us out of the elevator. The front desk gave me the choice of adding her to my reservation (which I should have done) or fill our some form and pay a fee. It's probably easier to get girls in during daylight hours.

Food: The concierge recommended a place called Braseiro, which is basically behind the Pestana. The style of the restaurant is casual like a diner. Everybody knows picanha, but the concierge recommended another one, starts with M, which is a bit cheaper and also delicious. With it you get a delicious tomato and onion salad, and three carbs: farofa, fries (so-so) and rice (good.) (Other guests got beans too.) I also visited the touristy Confeitaria Colombo in Centro. It had a good buzz and the egg tarts were small but not as sweet as the ones from Macau.

My favorite juice bar is Big Bi at Siqueira Campos / Nossa Senhora de Copacabana.

Cocktails: I took many daily walks to the Hilton, which has a bar by the pool on the 4th floor. (The fancier bar is only accessible to guests.) I got them to make me a macanuaima (which they didn't know)it's cachaca, Fernet, lime juice and simple syrup. It's now one of my favorites.

Mongering: I did a session with the famous kitty girl: smoking slim body, perfect breasts, cute face, nice personality. I also had a session at Emporio do Banho, and the girl gave me a soft massage with lotion and did everything in her power to convince me that she was a long-lost girlfriend.

Vagabundo took me on a Bataan death March to Mabs one Monday night. It was pretty quiet with a half dozen working girls plying their trade.

Centro tour: I also took a walk to see some places I had visited a year before. I think some of these moved or changed their layout. I visited the secret terma, Vanessa Rio's (it was buzzing when I was there five years ago), and found some others around Uruguiana 210. All locals places. I went around 5:00 pm it's "winter" down there (with temps in the high 70's / low 80's F) but as such, the sun went down pretty early. There were a lot of homeless people living on the streets in Centro, but it didn't feel dangerous (while the sun was out.).

Money: Brazil has gone almost completely cashless. I got dirty looks when I tried to pay with cash at the São Paulo airport, and it seems that everyone uses Pic / Pix (even in the boates.) I was able to use Apple Pay in many places.

Dating: My civilian Tinder data must have lived in a favela. I took her to an Italian restaurant, whose cuisine she had never had (Mexican as well.) The dear wanted to go up to my hotel room with me, but I was freaked out at the prospect of adding someone to my reservation (duh--should have done it because she was a sweetheart and good to go.) She has a sick kid, and daily money requests started after I got back, but I was able to offend her, and they stopped.

Safety: Never had any issues. Uber is super cheap. My ride from GIG to Copa was like USD $12. Don't take the subway at rush hour, because it's packed like sardines.

Verdict: I'm going back as soon as I can.

MrJoker123
09-14-25, 00:58
Good evening all, just returned from my first trip to Rio and I had a ball. Thank you for all the info in this forum.

First day stop in at MABS had some lunch and then that evening stopped in at 4 x 4 and was better than I expected. Did an hour with a beautiful dark skin girl where I got to explore all 3 holes. After that I hanged around and parted with the other girls, they all were trying to get me into the room but I was already good, a lot of mutual touching was taking place, a time was had.

Next Day I had stopped into DV and the girls there where top notch ended up going with this beauty that I had seen the day before walking around in the area, she was great, small petite with a phat ass got to my place showered up and got straight to business, lite kissing, a lot of touch, with some oral, followed by multiply different position and plenty of ass play. The way she moaned and spoke during the encounter was a such a turn on.

Following day I stopped into monte Carlo and the selection was great, ended up picking this light skin beauty with a great ass. She was great but those rooms are a sweat box LOL. 4 x 4 is better.

In between all the fun also did the tourist stuff, had a great time all round, can't wait to return again.

Mr Enternational
09-15-25, 15:03
Thank you. The prices went up dramatically, it's a fact. IBIS is part of Accor and always been guest friendly. However, I'm not aware of any updated list of GF hotels in Rio which also won't charge a joiner fee on double occupancy.I do not know who needs to hear this, but my boy is at the Hilton and guest fee is 575 reais.

Exoticspirit
09-15-25, 15:18
Good evening all, just returned from my first trip to Rio and I had a ball. Thank you for all the info in this forum.

First day stop in at MABS had some lunch and then that evening stopped in at 4 x 4 and was better than I expected. Did an hour with a beautiful dark skin girl where I got to explore all 3 holes. After that I hanged around and parted with the other girls, they all were trying to get me into the room but I was already good, a lot of mutual touching was taking place, a time was had.

Next Day I had stopped into DV and the girls there where top notch ended up going with this beauty that I had seen the day before walking around in the area, she was great, small petite with a phat ass got to my place showered up and got straight to business, lite kissing, a lot of touch, with some oral, followed by multiply different position and plenty of ass play. The way she moaned and spoke during the encounter was a such a turn on.

Following day I stopped into monte Carlo and the selection was great, ended up picking this light skin beauty with a great ass. She was great but those rooms are a sweat box LOL. 4 x 4 is better.

In between all the fun also did the tourist stuff, had a great time all round, can't wait to return again.Thanks for your report. Where did you stay and what were the rules / costs regarding bringing girls back? In hindsight would you prefer to do sessions at the termas or just bring girls back to your own room?

Questner
09-16-25, 04:31
I do not know who needs to hear this, but my boy is at the Hilton and guest fee is 575 reais.This week Accor has a sale 30% off for stays until the end of January. Blessed are those who pay such joiners.

Xpartan
09-17-25, 03:36
I do not know who needs to hear this, but my boy is at the Hilton and guest fee is 575 reais.That's a disturbing shift. There didn't use to be any fee as late as last year. They did make the girl to fill out an ass long form at the reception, though.

Rio Bob
09-19-25, 02:35
Argentinean tourist found dead, police suspect "Boa Noite, Cinderela" scam. This far they don't have much information about the case.

https://www.meiahora.com.br/geral/2025/09/7127975-turista-argentino-e-encontrado-morto-e-policia-suspeita-de-golpe-boa-noite-cinderela.htmlInteresting no signs of violence so he died from the boa noite. Very scary if they give you the wrong dose or if you have a health issue or you drank too much they can kill you, be careful out there guard your drinks and don't carry anything on you but some cash for the night.

Rio Bob
09-19-25, 02:40
I keep hearing this club mentioned, here is a brief clip inside https://youtu.be/IysT0BS8_T4?si=nV9UKP1KrLiFYeIw.

Rio Bob
09-19-25, 02:46
Brasilleiras speaking English https://youtu.be/4lDVudIjc4o?si=ZWYh8rH-SVM0AVht.

The Tall Man
09-19-25, 03:12
Good evening all, just returned from my first trip to Rio and I had a ball. Thank you for all the info in this forum.

First day stop in at MABS had some lunch and then that evening stopped in at 4 x 4 and was better than I expected. Did an hour with a beautiful dark skin girl where I got to explore all 3 holes. After that I hanged around and parted with the other girls, they all were trying to get me into the room but I was already good, a lot of mutual touching was taking place, a time was had.

Next Day I had stopped into DV and the girls there where top notch ended up going with this beauty that I had seen the day before walking around in the area, she was great, small petite with a phat ass got to my place showered up and got straight to business, lite kissing, a lot of touch, with some oral, followed by multiply different position and plenty of ass play. The way she moaned and spoke during the encounter was a such a turn on.Your first time, excellent!

Now I had 2 visits to Rio each one lasted 2 and 3 weeks but this was in 2000 so 25 years ago and have never returned, why? Because I have played everywhere in the world and for the past 10 plus years living in Medellin, Colombia.

I would love to visit Rio again and wow the same clubs as you mentioned are still going strong.

At the expense of sounding like I am bragging here is a true story, keep in mind I have been with easily a thousand plus women, all over Europe, Eastern Europe, Scandinavia, Russia, the US, Canada, Asia, the Caribbean, Cuba, middle and south America and my absolutely perfect most beautiful woman was found at DV in Rio in 2000, damn still remember her beauty and all for me, hehehe for 2 hours anyway.

I recall the fun filled beauties I picked up from HELP, long gone as I am told, what a shame as it was a fun place.

So the story is don't put off another visit as did I, don't wait 25 years.

Thanks for sharing.

The Tall Man.

Mr Enternational
09-19-25, 11:48
That's a disturbing shift. There didn't use to be any fee as late as last year. They did make the girl to fill out an ass long form at the reception, though.Don't know what is wrong with this site. You write stuff up and it does not post. I tried posting the picture 2 other times but it did not post. [Picture with name and surname Deleted by Admin]

Chicago85
09-19-25, 17:17
I keep hearing this club mentioned, here is a brief clip inside https://youtu.be/IysT0BS8_T4?si=nV9UKP1KrLiFYeIw.I went about a week ago on a Friday. As a mid 40's guy going there solo on Friday it felt quite awkward given how young the crowd is and fact that only a smaller fraction are working. On that particular night there was a line to get in and it was largely groups of guys and girls who looked to be 18-22. I could only tell the working girls as those who were standing alone or holding longer eye contact (not many). I 'might' go again, but would not go solo. Would probably take a favorita who likes to dance. Also, FWIW I was told that Thursday is 'trap house' music, which I'm not into. But maybe someone is.

Mr Enternational
09-19-25, 20:39
Don't know what is wrong with this site. You write stuff up and it does not post. I tried posting the picture 2 other times but it did not post. Picture with name and surname Deleted by AdminOkay. This is better.

OhioTraveler20
09-19-25, 22:54
Good evening all, just returned from my first trip to Rio and I had a ball. Thank you for all the info in this forum.

First day stop in at MABS had some lunch and then that evening stopped in at 4 x 4 and was better than I expected. Did an hour with a beautiful dark skin girl where I got to explore all 3 holes. After that I hanged around and parted with the other girls, they all were trying to get me into the room but I was already good, a lot of mutual touching was taking place, a time was had.

Next Day I had stopped into DV and the girls there where top notch ended up going with this beauty that I had seen the day before walking around in the area, she was great, small petite with a phat ass got to my place showered up and got straight to business, lite kissing, a lot of touch, with some oral, followed by multiply different position and plenty of ass play. The way she moaned and spoke during the encounter was a such a turn on.

Following day I stopped into monte Carlo and the selection was great, ended up picking this light skin beauty with a great ass. She was great but those rooms are a sweat box LOL. 4 x 4 is better.

In between all the fun also did the tourist stuff, had a great time all round, can't wait to return again.What club is "DV" he mentioned?

Getsum
09-20-25, 02:13
I am looking to go to Brazil for the first times. Can someone tell me the hotspots for Street girls and their prices. I have read through some threads and only see talk about clubs and bars. That is not my scene.

Xpartan
09-20-25, 04:43
Okay. This is better.This is fucked up. Hilton is dated, but I love the location, all rooms have the sea view, and there are 2 pools with a great bar on the top floor. But this is another nudge to get an apartment next time.


What club is "DV" he mentioned?Dolce Vita.

Jimmy Boy 99
09-20-25, 05:43
What club is "DV" he mentioned?Dolce Vita in Copacabana.

Jingo10
09-20-25, 08:31
I am looking to go to Brazil for the first times. Can someone tell me the hotspots for Street girls and their prices. I have read through some threads and only see talk about clubs and bars. That is not my scene.I've not seen many street walkers in rio, there are some on Ave Atlantico in Copa who look for car pickups near lido park.

But most in this area are looking to pickpocket people and many are trans.

There are so many options in rio you would not really want to look for street workers. The streets at night can be a dangerous place.

During the daytime you can get lucky strolling or hanging out along the beach.

Tochka
09-20-25, 13:45
I am looking to go to Brazil for the first times. Can someone tell me the hotspots for Street girls and their prices. I have read through some threads and only see talk about clubs and bars. That is not my scene.Teams of pretty street garotas and spicy trans are looking for you too. They are seeking male tourists, unsuspecting dudes, two or three guys walking together doesn't matter. Strolling Copa evenings and nights. They will get your cellular, iPhone, watch, wallet, chain, passport, keys, credit card, chinelos, tenis, jaquet whatever you are carrying or wearing while your distracted. Motoboys, bikes and street runners are carefully tracking you or your bros too.

Don't stroll around Centro at night 8 pm or later looking for strange. Strange is lurking. Waiting for you too. Do you speak and understand brasilian Portuguese?

What do instead? Read on the forum Complete Idiot's Guide to Copacabana by ShinyCrazy. Follow that guide.

Follow that guide, learn some porto, enjoy your trip, stay safe, have fun and write a report. Its like any other big city.. You are looking.. Strange is looking for you too..kkk

The Cane
09-20-25, 14:01
I am looking to go to Brazil for the first times. Can someone tell me the hotspots for Street girls and their prices. I have read through some threads and only see talk about clubs and bars. That is not my scene.This is not a destination for street action. If you need that, then you need to go somewhere else.

Sperto
09-20-25, 17:09
I am looking to go to Brazil for the first times. Can someone tell me the hotspots for Street girls and their prices. I have read through some threads and only see talk about clubs and bars. That is not my scene.There are plenty of street actions in Brazil, some are really good in the north and norteast of Brazil. In Rio there are plenty of street action, but not in Zona Sul, and you'll be better off with a car. If you like the street scene, go to Vila Mimosa. The street action in Copacabana is gone.

The Cane
09-20-25, 17:47
There are plenty of street actions in Brazil, some are really good in the north and norteast of Brazil. In Rio there are plenty of street action, but not in Zona Sul, and you'll be better off with a car. If you like the street scene, go to Vila Mimosa. The street action in Copacabana is gone.My point is that in my opinion Rio is not a place for good street action like you can find in other cities. In Rio, it's going to be like Tochka said. No good! Better to look elsewhere.

DonMoscow
09-20-25, 20:24
So my 10 year visa is about to expire. Was able to enter Brazil one last time in last month. I am curious what kinda visas you guys have now? I will likely just get the e-visa. I read that some of you seem to live in Brazil year round. What's you immigration status?

Nrlmus
09-21-25, 02:08
There are plenty of street actions in Brazil, some are really good in the north and norteast of Brazil. In Rio there are plenty of street action, but not in Zona Sul, and you'll be better off with a car. If you like the street scene, go to Vila Mimosa. The street action in Copacabana is gone.There is a reasonable street action in Recreo. You'd also see some street girls all along the Barra strip. I actually had a dangerous experience in Barra when 3 underage females (14-15 yo) trying to get me to take them to my place. Thank God I was with my regular go to GDP that quickly turned it all into joke. Be careful folk.

Anyone knows any good spots outside of Zona Sul besides Vila Mimosa?

Vagabundo1
09-21-25, 02:54
There is street action at Barra p9-11, which is why casuarina is such a good spot, posto 10.

There is street action at olegario maciel if you know the working girls from riosexsite dot com and barravipsrio dot com, especially if they live in your building as they did at transamerica.


There are plenty of street actions in Brazil, some are really good in the north and norteast of Brazil. In Rio there are plenty of street action, but not in Zona Sul, and you'll be better off with a car. If you like the street scene, go to Vila Mimosa. The street action in Copacabana is gone.

Vagabundo1
09-21-25, 02:58
That is very true.

A wrist strap and a vertex SOCP belt, the smaller one, saved one of my phones. Which, alas, later died in the ocean. Make sure your water proof cases are really water proof on ocean swims.

Ann Amari was never on time to do phone watch, and we decisively ended things yesterday, which rationally is a good move.


Teams of pretty street garotas and spicy trans are looking for you too. They are seeking male tourists, unsuspecting dudes, two or three guys walking together doesn't matter. Strolling Copa evenings and nights. They will get your cellular, iPhone, watch, wallet, chain, passport, keys, credit card, chinelos, tenis, jaquet whatever you are carrying or wearing while your distracted. Motoboys, bikes and street runners are carefully tracking you or your bros too.

Don't stroll around Centro at night 8 pm or later looking for strange. Strange is lurking. Waiting for you too. Do you speak and understand brasilian Portuguese?

Vagabundo1
09-21-25, 03:02
On the other end of the spectrum is casablackrio in zona norte.

Anyone up for a trip there?

Vitirinni is more on the morena / branca end of the spectrum, Brazilian Italian gringas.


I went about a week ago on a Friday. As a mid 40's guy going there solo on Friday it felt quite awkward given how young the crowd is and fact that only a smaller fraction are working. On that particular night there was a line to get in and it was largely groups of guys and girls who looked to be 18-22. I could only tell the working girls as those who were standing alone or holding longer eye conta ct (not many). I 'might' go again, but would not go solo. Would probably take a favorita who likes to dance. Also, FWIW I was told that Thursday is 'trap house' music, which I'm not into. But maybe someone is.

Steve 9696
09-21-25, 13:15
Teams of pretty street garotas and spicy trans are looking for you too. They are seeking male tourists, unsuspecting dudes, two or three guys walking together doesn't matter. Strolling Copa evenings and nights. They will get your cellular, iPhone, watch, wallet, chain, passport, keys, credit card, chinelos, tenis, jaquet whatever you are carrying or wearing while your distracted. Motoboys, bikes and street runners are carefully tracking you or your bros too.

Don't stroll around Centro at night 8 pm or later looking for strange. Strange is lurking. Waiting for you too. Do you speak and understand brasilian Portuguese?

What do instead? Read on the forum Complete Idiot's Guide to Copacabana by ShinyCrazy. Follow that guide.

Follow that guide, learn some porto, enjoy your trip, stay safe, have fun and write a report. Its like any other big city.. You are looking.. Strange is looking for you too..kkkRookie mistake. Me and two buddies walking late night on street side of Copacabana (don't do this. Always walk beach side.). Got accosted by a group of "girls" getting hands on and showing tits and go with me baby. We fended them off super quick. But when we got back to hotel two out of three of us were missing phones! It's a real thing believe me. They are PROs!

Mr Enternational
09-21-25, 14:23
Rookie mistake. Me and two buddies walking late night on street side of Copacabana (don't do this. Always walk beach side.). Got accosted by a group of "girls" getting hands on and showing tits and go with me baby. We fended them off super quick. But when we got back to hotel two out of three of us were missing phones! It's a real thing believe me. They are PROs!I walk on the street side late at night all the time, but I know better than to let strange people come up on me; nevermind touch me. I also usually walk with my hands in my pockets.

Chicago85
09-21-25, 18:00
I walk on the street side late at night all the time, but I know better than to let strange people come up on me; nevermind touch me. I also usually walk with my hands in my pockets.I have a couple friends who say the same thing, but then again, they are of darker complexion and blend in quite easily with your typical Carioca. I mentioned this to a Brazilian girlfriend and she said, but honey you're a 'Gringo, gringo'. White, blonde, tall, etc. And you really stand out. The thieves and girls know that you will have money, won't have a weapon, and won't stay around to file a report.

I have also had groups of thieves (mostly the trannies LOL) follow me on Copa and try to catch up to me. I had a thief wrestle me to the ground a year ago to steal my phone on the beach.

Net / net. I suggest one take care in suggesting that just because they have been fine, that there is not different, and perhaps elevated, danger profile for others.

Chicago85
09-21-25, 18:08
So my 10 year visa is about to expire. Was able to enter Brazil one last time in last month. I am curious what kinda visas you guys have now? I will likely just get the e-visa. I read that some of you seem to live in Brazil year round. What's you immigration status?I did the e-Visa a little over a year ago. It was 10 years and $80. I only had a couple issues: 1) They are extremely particular about the photo that you submit (so take a little time to get right), and 2) it took them 1 month to process (just implemented, new process), and I needed to follow up a couple times. I understand from friends that it is down to 3-5 days now.

Steve 9696
09-21-25, 18:18
I walk on the street side late at night all the time, but I know better than to let strange people come up on me; nevermind touch me. I also usually walk with my hands in my pockets.Yeah I've gotten in the habit of hands in pockets pretty much 24/7 in Brazil and similar. But still recommend beachside. You don't have to skirt any shady characters and many restaurants are open late so it just feels less dodgy.

Sperto
09-21-25, 18:51
Yeah I've gotten in the habit of hands in pockets pretty much 24/7 in Brazil and similar. But still recommend beachside. You don't have to skirt any shady characters and many restaurants are open late so it just feels less dodgy.Streetside or beachside, none is safe if you don't use common sense. I've seen tons of snatch and grab along the orla (beachside). Young guys on bikes pass by tourists and snatch their neckless or phone.

Tochka
09-21-25, 19:31
That is very true.

A wrist strap and a vertex SOCP belt, the smaller one, saved one of my phones. Which, alas, later died in the ocean. Make sure your water proof cases are really water proof on ocean swims.

Ann Amari was never on time to do phone watch, and we decisively ended things yesterday, which rationally is a good move.Vagabundo mentioned this and I agree. Buy a leash for your fancy iPhone, back it up, or carry burner and get a leash anyway, make a color copy of passport, carry that instead of original passport, the security offices in the buildings with the prives on rio branco will accept the color copy no problem, if you are strolling copa or centro late at night looking for strange. They won't get your original passport. Panda motel will accept it and there is no problem to have threesome or foursome in panda motel with hot garotas if you worried the airbnb or hotel is not guest friendly.

For repeat visitors, foristas, brothers, dudes, make your brasilian experience easier get a cpf number. It can be done completely online including payment, in a week or two all by email.

If you wandering around searching for garotas in freelance bars in copa or botafogo Carry cash you are willing to lose and a credit card willing to lose. A bunch of no-account mofos guys on the omnibus in centro or metro entrance were waiting for prive garotas to board the omnibus or enter the metro with their purses to snatch & grab. Garotas get paid at the end of the prive shift in the evening, their phones have fresh pix payment or worse cash from the end of the day shift.

Use ATM inside banks, the bradesco bank lobby is open late until midnight are. Sen. Dantas, 61 - Centro, Rio de Janeiro. RJ, 20031-202 and Bradesco bank next to Eden Spa. Remember you are being clocked and tracked across the street by that homeless dude in his carton. Take Uber everywhere it's easy and inexpensive. I was lucky to have a former Monte Carlo garota as an Uber driver. that was a damn fun ride kkkk i can drink too much so cannot trust two or more girls in hotel room or airbnb spot .. keep an eye on both of them, no matter how friendly they seem. i wake up in the morning trying to figure out did they do some stupid shit like smoke in the bathroom (a fine by the hotel and airbnb owners) or swipe some crap from the room.. why my tnis or socks gone kkkk

Believe in karma , sometimes they do get caught , they cannot stop the thrill of getting away with it. I have been to Forum Criminal in sao paulo or Tribunal de Justia do Estado do Rio de Janeiro to see bail set by the judge which is based on their annual salary or no bail if they are a single mom , unemployed with kids and no history of getting caught before.

Axel Heyst
09-21-25, 21:55
I did the e-Visa a little over a year ago. It was 10 years and $80. I only had a couple issues: 1) They are extremely particular about the photo that you submit (so take a little time to get right), and 2) it took them 1 month to process (just implemented, new process), and I needed to follow up a couple times. I understand from friends that it is down to 3-5 days now.I applied for the e-visa a month ago. It took less than 48 hours to receive my e-visa and now I am good to go for the next 10 years. But you are right about the photo. They are extremely fussy about that in a number of ways, so don't fuck around. I had a friend come over with his Nikon DSLR, 90 mm lens, and flash attachment. Mission accomplished!

Tribute15
09-22-25, 09:00
I walk on the street side late at night all the time, but I know better than to let strange people come up on me; nevermind touch me. I also usually walk with my hands in my pockets.I usually stay in Copa and always watch out for whose close, like every 30 seconds. I wear a pair of gym shorts with a zip, where I put cash and my cards. Whether beachside or streetside, morning or night. Never let your guard down guys. Lots of homeless on Av Nossa Senhora de Copacabana, even in front of Bradesco bank. I don't understand why the banks allows homeless by the entrance.

Raul69
09-22-25, 11:46
Is there any organized gangbangs or bukkake like they have in Germany? Or any kind of sex events like that? Thanks.

EyesWide
09-23-25, 01:28
Since everyone is talking about the wrist strap for phones, I do have one and plan to bring it. I'm actually going to Sao Paulo this time around but wouldn't walking around with a wrist strap for your phone make you stand out even more as a target? From videos that I have seen, locals seem to just walk with their phone with no strap but I'm sure they are very aware of their surroundings.

World Jockey
09-23-25, 02:36
So my 10 year visa is about to expire. Was able to enter Brazil one last time in last month. I am curious what kinda visas you guys have now? I will likely just get the e-visa. I read that some of you seem to live in Brazil year round. What's you immigration status?I did the eVisa for the first time this summer. The turn around time was only a few days. Pretty painless too.

Vagabundo1
09-23-25, 06:39
https://youtu.be/uL11lnS5QSw?si=BdreABk3Vwz-ycKA

This is a video by a yt ber who is pretty squared away and obviously has some tactical background not to mention medical training.

That said, he is not a full on vagabundo.

1. vagabundo would do everything this guy does, but.

A) put on two packstraps so you could strap that pack to your chest, like a moto boy (do as the locals do) which allows you to put the video right there between your huge pecs, or tits (he bought one for his girlfriend, and Ann Amari didn't want it so I have two, looking for a good muay Thai babe preferably a rich one from France who would wear such a god awful un feminine piece of gear, as long as she fucks well. French chicks are hot, and rich compared to carioca women but don't generally have that Brazilian booty).

B) put on a little carabiner so you can.

C) put on a wrist strap onto your phone, and hook that wrist strap into the caribiner.

D) and yes, like he says, put in that SOCP dagger, which is designed I. So you can pull the trigger on a gun while you are holding the dagger, which is lethal if aimed at the neck, tickle his tonsils, ii for jiu jitsu rolling (get the real benchmade SOCP as the chinese copy comes apart after a few months, but it is 20 USD on amazon, and the real thing from benchmade is like 120 USD. So.

E) yes, I should put a tourniquet on it, but I carry one in my backpack, my go to backpack is a 5-11 skyweight. And muay Thai bandages are dual if not triple use (you can tie up a hoar in one while you are fantasy raping her ass up face down pure poetry word association man).

F) the flashing red safety lights are a nice idea I haven't tried yet, but yes, it would be a good idea.

This dude is squared the f away, game knows game, so that is a high compliment coming from SWISS NAVY ambassador honorary type, vagabundo.

And as long as I am giving gear faggot advice (gear fag was the slur attached to SWISS NAVY lieutenants who had a fetish for gear), check out this gear list. A pretty fucking good one.

https://youtu.be/ToonXShDAFk?si=Br6hLf82WflHq_ea

Note the sw he puts on his phone to give his trusted friends location.

Elsewhere on his channel, he discusses how to be invisible electronically, which are now on my future watch list. Since we are clearly in world war tree economically, ie, swift v brics, and like marquez in 100 years of solitude, I want to wake up in 2120 having spent the last 100 years not being fucked with in Brazil.


Vagabundo mentioned this and I agree. Buy a leash for your fancy iPhone, back it up, or carry burner and get a leash anyway, make a color copy of passport, carry that instead of original passport, the security offices in the buildings with the prives on rio branco will accept the color copy no problem, if you are strolling copa or centro late at night looking for strange. They won't get your original passport. Panda motel will accept it and there is no problem to have threesome or foursome in panda motel with hot garotas if you worried the airbnb or hotel is not guest friendly.

For repeat visitors, foristas, brothers, dudes, make your brasilian experience easier get a cpf number. It can be done completely online including payment, in a week or two all by email.

If you wandering around searching for garotas in freelance bars in copa or botafogo Carry cash you are willing to lose and a credit card willing to lose. A bunch of no-account mofos guys on the omnibus in centro or metro entrance were waiting for prive garotas to board the omnibus or enter the metro with their purses to snatch & grab. Garotas get paid at the end of the prive shift in the evening, their phones have fresh pix payment or worse cash from the end of the day shift..
Vagabundo mentioned this and I agree. Buy a leash for your fancy iPhone, back it up, or carry burner and get a leash anyway, make a color copy of passport, carry that instead of original passport, the security offices in the buildings with the prives on rio branco will accept the color copy no problem, if you are strolling copa or centro late at night looking for strange. They won't get your original passport. Panda motel will accept it and there is no problem to have threesome or foursome in panda motel with hot garotas if you worried the airbnb or hotel is not guest friendly.

For repeat visitors, foristas, brothers, dudes, make your brasilian experience easier get a cpf number. It can be done completely online including payment, in a week or two all by email..

Vagabundo1
09-25-25, 20:41
CPFPM 5.2.

400 r+120 ifood / 100 minutes fucking.

Prive girl calls right on time at 10 h, arrives 13 h, we bang 100 minutes to our choice of porn, she is ready to leave with market close at 17 h.

Rimeki
09-27-25, 19:22
Since everyone is talking about the wrist strap for phones, I do have one and plan to bring it. I'm actually going to Sao Paulo this time around but wouldn't walking around with a wrist strap for your phone make you stand out even more as a target? From videos that I have seen, locals seem to just walk with their phone with no strap but I'm sure they are very aware of their surroundings.I agree, the strap will make you stand out.

I always take an old iPhone that has the essentials (primarily Google Maps & WhatsApp) and leave my primary phone in the hotel safe.

Make sure to not have any banking apps or other sensitive access on the burner phone (I even don't have email open).

Also, I'd always recommend getting a local number. You don't want the GPS and the folks behind many of them to be able to identify you (lots of blackmailing), nor do you want them to know you are a gringo when you discuss pricing and location.

If you want to blend in, get a Flamengo shirt (Never a Brazilian National Team Jersey).

And of course do not wear sneakers on the beach.

But most importantly. Have fun! This is the very best way to blend in.

Rimeki
09-27-25, 19:52
I stayed in Rio for six nights a couple of weeks ago. It was more of a vacation than a mongercation, so readers might come away a little disappointed.

Mongering: I did a session with the famous kitty girl: smoking slim body, perfect breasts, cute face, nice personality. I also had a session at Emporio do Banho, and the girl gave me a soft massage with lotion and did everything in her power to convince me that she was a long-lost girlfriend.
Who is that kitty girl you are referring to (might have missed)?

Going back to Rio in a few weeks.

Sounds like my type (and probably that of many) - in order of importance I look for pretty face, young (<30), slim, big hooters (preferably natural), and playful personality.

Any other suggestions from folks in the forum?

Maya (massage garota in copa) was recommended here a while ago and looks awesome (without the glasses), but she is off Espaço Terapias and her WhatsApp now list the profile pic. Chances are she might have left the circus. Still on Classrio tho, but with weird glasses pics. She had much hotter ones.

https://classrio.com.br/massoterapeuta/maya-centro/

If anyone has other recommendations for hot young garotas (8+) please advise.

Happy to pay top shelf for outstanding beauty, but all these fake ads make the true hotties hard to identify and I only have a few days so I need to be efficient.

Thanks in advance for all tips!

Axel Heyst
09-28-25, 13:43
I agree, the strap will make you stand out.

I always take an old iPhone that has the essentials (primarily Google Maps & WhatsApp) and leave my primary phone in the hotel safe.

Make sure to not have any banking apps or other sensitive access on the burner phone (I even don't have email open).

Also, I'd always recommend getting a local number. You don't want the GPS and the folks behind many of them to be able to identify you (lots of blackmailing), nor do you want them to know you are a gringo when you discuss pricing and location.

If you want to blend in, get a Flamengo shirt (Never a Brazilian National Team Jersey).

And of course do not wear sneakers on the beach.

But most importantly. Have fun! This is the very best way to blend in.Always be safe, but if you ask me, some of these safety precautions are overdoing it. A Strap _ no way. Burner phone _ up to you. I have a back up phone, Samsung Galaxy S21 ultra and a S25+. I use t-mobile international in combination with NordVPN. I think a Flamenco shirt or a Brazil National Team Jersey calls more attention to oneself as a tourist but wear what makes you comfortable. I just wear a normal t-shirt with a pocket, jeans, and black off trail quality running shoes. Most Sao Paulo people don't know I am a gringo until I open my mouth because I blend in wearing nothing unusual.

Why do you recommend no sneakers on the beach? When I go to the beach I always wear sneakers and take them off when I find a place where I want to sit down or lay back and put them back on when I want to take a long walk.

Your last tip is a good one: "Have fun! This is the very best way to blend in" AND ALWAYS KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN AND BE AWARE OF YOUR SURRONDINGS. NEVER LET ANYONE INVADE YOUR PERSONAL SPACE! SP AND RJ are not particularly dangerous if you use your God given common sense.

Vagabundo1
09-28-25, 20:39
Yeah, I do not disagree. It kind of does make me stand out.

But I have actually had a strap on a phone save a phone in a centro attempted robbery. But I go to centro bars after sunset regularly, and I live here.

As for the vasco shirt, the best girls are vasco, and as a result, I am a vasco fan.


I agree, the strap will make you stand out.

I always take an old iPhone that has the essentials (primarily Google Maps & WhatsApp) and leave my primary phone in the hotel safe.

Make sure to not have any banking apps or other sensitive access on the burner phone (I even don't have email open).

Also, I'd always recommend getting a local number. You don't want the GPS and the folks behind many of them to be able to identify you (lots of blackmailing), nor do you want them to know you are a gringo when you discuss pricing and location.

If you want to blend in, get a Flamengo shirt (Never a Brazilian National Team Jersey).

Rimeki
09-29-25, 00:49
Always be safe, but if you ask me, some of these safety precautions are overdoing it. A Strap _ no way. Burner phone _ up to you. I have a back up phone, Samsung Galaxy S21 ultra and a S25+. I use t-mobile international in combination with NordVPN. I think a Flamenco shirt or a Brazil National Team Jersey calls more attention to oneself as a tourist but wear what makes you comfortable. I just wear a normal t-shirt with a pocket, jeans, and black off trail quality running shoes. Most Sao Paulo people don't know I am a gringo until I open my mouth because I blend in wearing nothing unusual.

Why do you recommend no sneakers on the beach? When I go to the beach I always wear sneakers and take them off when I find a place where I want to sit down or lay back and put them back on when I want to take a long walk.

Your last tip is a good one: "Have fun! This is the very best way to blend in" AND ALWAYS KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN AND BE AWARE OF YOUR SURRONDINGS. NEVER LET ANYONE INVADE YOUR PERSONAL SPACE! SP AND RJ are not particularly dangerous if you use your God given common sense.Shoes on the beach are a dead giveaway. No Carioca does that. Bare feet or chinelos (havaianas). Only exception may be at night but that's when you should not be on the beach as a tourist anyways. Flamengo jerseys (or any other RJ clubs) are fine and tons of locals wear them day and night, also lots of women. Brazilian national Jersey wearers are almost always tourists. Of course, tshirt and shorts also work if style and wear are somewhat local. Osklen is a great Carioca brand, several stores.

How does the VPN protect you from hoars & shady folks behind them knowing your main number if you use WhatsApp?

Blackmailing is a big issue, see all forums like GPArena. Although probably less likely for foreign numbers, but still I would not want to leave that trace.

I personally find carrying a burner phone quite liberating.

I'm forced to only use it for essentials. If I'm there on vacation and not on business, it's perfect to unwind.

I often take no phone at all. After all I am in Brazil and there is no hurry for anything.

Plus, snatches are not about losing the phone. They are about crooks getting access to your bank data.

Your phone is unlocked and things like face is are no hurdle for pros.

On a recent business trip, a top executive from an international retail firm told me that his iPhone had been snatched and within a day over 10 K USD were taken from his accounts. If you absolutely have to carry your main phone, please make sure to follow all the necessary precautions listed on the Internet to make your phone less susceptible for these potentially hefty consequences. It's quite a bit of work if done properly. But once again, most importantly, enjoy!

JacobMann
10-01-25, 15:21
Report:

First posts ever on this forum and first time in Brazil. Giving back since the the forum has been so useful. 2 part series. See Sao Paulo for Part 2. All prices in brl. I don't do BBFS.

Sunday night:

I had been talking to several chicks from gparena. I encountered "LW"'s reviews a couple days ago, a newbie of just 2 months but extraordinary feedback given. I hardly slept fantasizing about her Saturday night since she told me she was down for Sunday evening but on the day of, I couldn't reach her. Left on undelivered. Maybe her phone was off? I scrambled to replace her, and eventually landed on a blonde who had nice features from the forum. She was weird in communication, very overbearing but I was eager to get a nut in. She was decent, but older than I thought, good BBJ, but I found the gum chewing beforehand gross and she was just annoying in general, not a bad person or anything, but I wanted her gone. I gave her hour rate 500 and sent her packing in about 20 minutes after pumping her a few minutes.

PRO tip. Use your gut. If the interaction is off in some way over messaging, use your gut.

Monday Day:

LW messages me in the morning apologizing for her phone not being functional. I ask if she's free in the afternoon. I want to get her as soon as possible. She quotes 300/ HR to visit me plus uber. I ask for 2 hours.

What follows is not only the best mongering experience I have had, but the best sexual experience, and possibly one of the best experiences I have ever had. Incredible hourglass and caramel skin 100% natural no cosmetics, only a few tattoos. Mouth kissing skills off the chart total GFE. The only provider I have ever eaten out and wow was it like ambrosia. She orgasms hard. Then we have incredible GFE in different positions. She orgasms again. Wow I can't stop making out with her. We rest and chat a bit. She is incredible as a personality. This is like someone you can introduce to anyone in your circle unabashedly. We continue making out and I get hard again. We go again and climax together, her strong core pulsates all up and down my shaft as she cums. WOW. This trip has already justified itself.

Monday Night:

I'm with a couple friends and we go to the terma MonteCarlo.

They put us in these bathrobes smh, and these old guys are talking to us in the locker room. This is not good. Upstairs, it's small with maybe 10 -15 girls only a few of which are decent. I decide to do an hour with one since she is giving good vibes and personality. Tall morena with bolt ONS and brasil team color bikini. I order the cheapest room but there is no shower. It makes no sense. No shower is a problem for them. Don't you want guys to shower? The whole setup was gross for me. She gives great bbj for many minutes, but I'm already fucked out for the day and just ask her to give me a massage instead. There was a cover charge, room charge and provider charge. 800 all together including some beers I had.

Tuesday Day:

I have another gparena I am super excited about "Eva". This one requires me to go to her place in El centro in Rio, a new adventure, but it's a big high rise with security. Unlike LW, she is a veteran, one of the most popular on their forum with lots of history and reputation. All natural, sumptuous boobs, petite but full frame curvy but fit caramel morena, just the way I like it. 90 minutes for 500 with 100 extra for anal. Never done anal before but I figure this is the perfect opportunity with a real vetted professional. I had a great time with her, she suggests we start with anal. It was pretty tight for my preference, but I enjoyed it nonetheless with her on top cowgirl nice and slow. Switch condoms because I want to enjoy her pussy a little. I have a thought, can she finish me with her mouth? A difficult task, but she is highly skilled and I come in her mouth laying on my back (she doesn't swallow). I'm shocked to learn that she is in her early 30's. She looks 25. She says her secret is that too many women age themselves fast with substances. Had a few minutes fun time talking to her after about anal. She gives me my first ever rimjob. Wow what an experience from a veteran pro. I shower and take off.

Tuesday Night:

We decide to go to Dolce Vita around 11 ish, but there's no one there. The guy outside arranges a taxi for us to go to Marrakesh club. This club has a single stripper pole and most of the women are not attractive, but there are a couple good ones. Cover is 100 and they keep making us buy drinks. There is a takeout fee for the women but I don't remember what it was as I don't bite. The place actually got reasonably busy by 1 or 2 AM. I think it's worth checking out but don't go with high hopes.

Wednesday Day:

I'm super excited for my Repeat with LW. She will come over once again in the afternoon. This time we already know each other so it's off to the races. I savor and taste her wonderful pussy again and make her come twice in less than an hour. Her kissing skills are off the charts, it's ridiculous. I tell her that for the second hour I just want to chill and enjoy the fresh air and chat a bit. She says she wants to enjoy every moment with me as I will be leaving tomorrow and this will be our last meet. She is addicted to making out with me. Wow is this a GFE of GFE's. The two hours are up and I point out "wow look you made me hard again, didn't think I had it in me". She say's "let's go". I say, "What? The 2 hours are up? She says don't worry about it and takes me back to the room to fuck again GFE with rich BBJ to get things lubed up. I thump her in flat doggy while making out with her and cum hard. Wow am I drained. I say goodbye to this goddess and give her 800 (including for her transport). I'm usually against giving extra but this was just too sensational of an experience.

Wednesday Night:

We decide to hit 4 x 4, no bathrobes this time fortunately. There are a few hot women but again mostly it's lame. There is a fine Teanna Trump looking girl in there, tall, same build and face. Wow she is sexy. She wants me to go to the room, but I'm all fucked out. I want to see her dance instead, but The rooms that have stripper poles are all 900+. And 4 x4 has a ridiculous takeout fee of 1200 (NOT including whatever you and the girl decide). She gives me her number and we bounce. I text her that she can come over in the morning if she wants, but I didn't actually think she would go for it. But she wants to come over! 600 plus ubers.

Thursday Morning:

My flight is at 1:30 so it will be a tight operation. Teanna Trump looking 4 x 4 girl comes over at 10:30. We smash, pretty good, nothing that really stood out pro or con. I did enjoy her BBJ. I'm sold on the Brazil BBJ. I fuck her mish / spoon the way I like and finish fast. I arrange the uber so that it drops me at the airport and then her at her place. We have a good chat in the uber, and off to Sao Paulo.

Rio Summary: Gparena surprisingly worked best for me. Very glad I encountered that shortly before the trip. I didn't have time to go to Perola Negra, but honestly, the boate scene is pretty lame in Rio.

See part 2 in the Sao Paulo thread.

MrJoker123
10-02-25, 02:27
Thanks for your report. Where did you stay and what were the rules / costs regarding bringing girls back? In hindsight would you prefer to do sessions at the termas or just bring girls back to your own room?Sorry for late reply.

I stayed in a bnb that was 1 minute away from MABS, just check the house rules in the listing, had to register guest in the lobby no extra cost.

It all come down to your preference for where to do the session, I do what's more cost effective.

4 x 4 was cheaper than Monte Carlo.

Xpartan
10-02-25, 07:46
Report:

First posts ever on this forum and first time in Brazil. Giving back since the the forum has been so useful. 2 part series. See Sao Paulo for Part 2. All prices in brl. I don't do BBFS.MC has rooms with shower, but they charge more for it. The way I remember it, they rent them for one hour, while the regular rooms go for 40 minutes. So when you asked for 1 hour, they should've put you in a shower (pricier) room by default. BTW, what those older guys told you in the locker room that was no good?

I presume your "Eva" was the one and only, legendary Eva Sanchez, but who's "LW"? There's no need to protect identities of GParena girls. If anything, you'd help them get the word out.

Thanks for the report!

JacobMann
10-02-25, 17:51
MC has rooms with shower, but they charge more for it. The way I remember it, they rent them for one hour, while the regular rooms go for 40 minutes. So when you asked for 1 hour, they should've put you in a shower (pricier) room by default. BTW, what those older guys told you in the locker room that was no good?Yes, you're right. My memory was fuzzy after the whole week.

The Monte Carlo cheaper room was for 40 minutes. They tried to push the other room, but I didn't see the point.


BTW, what those older guys told you in the locker room that was no good?
It was nothing they said, they were quite friendly in fact. It's just my fantasy involved taking to naked women, not naked men.


Wednesday Night:

We decide to hit 4 x 4, no bathrobes this time fortunately. There are a few hot women but again mostly it's lame. There is a fine Teanna Trump looking girl in there, tall, same build and face. Wow she is sexy. She wants me to go to the room, but I'm all fucked out. I want to see her dance instead, but The rooms that have stripper poles are all 900+. And 4 x4 has a ridiculous takeout fee of 1200 (NOT including whatever you and the girl decide). She gives me her number and we bounce. I text her that she can come over in the morning if she wants, but I didn't actually think she would go for it. But she wants to come over! 600 plus ubers.
I totally forgot that after this, we went back to give Dolce Vita another shot Wednesday night.

It was a good vibe, and some decent talent, but frankly not much. I hated how much smoke was in there. My eyes were straight up watering and afterwards my shirt stank of a strong smoke smell. I don't mind some smoke, I hang out with friends who smoke, but this was too much for me.

My two friends ended up each taking a girl out.

Total for 3 covers, a table (it seems they charged for it), a few drinks for us and the girls (no bottles), and 2 take out fees for the 2 girls was 2900 brl.

I don't have the precise breakdown unfortunately, but this is totally excessive for the value that it delivered compared to what you can get for it.

My impression of the entire Rio club scene is them just trying to nickel and dime and extract as much as possible in the short term, (maybe because the clientele are more the transient tourist compared to Sao Paulo? The Termas are OK, but also limited selection.

I don't have much positive to say about the establishments we went to, compared to Sao Paulo.

My advice is just go in, get some phone numbers, and then leave to set something up with the girls for later if you happen to find one you like, and make sure they shower when they come over LOL.

Rimeki
10-02-25, 20:44
I presume your "Eva" was the one and only, legendary Eva Sanchez, but who's "LW"? There's no need to protect identities of GParena girls. If anything, you'd help them get the word out.

Thanks for the report!+1, thanks for the report!

But also +1 on the GParena point.

Garotas use this for promotion and can always have their entries removed on request.

If the purpose is to keep names for oneself. That's ok but then better not talk about it. It's like saying "I have a big secret but can't tell" .

We're mostly here to share good experiences and warn about bad ones.

Public chicks should thus be discoverable.

So +1 on Xpartans request.

Vagabundo1
10-04-25, 15:35
The bombeiros wear running shoes at the beach, as do the cops. As a general rule, I try to dress like the local lifeguards, as chicks dig firemen.

Locals may mostly do sandals, but mobility is your friend. Also, while I am at it, about 25% of locals have some kind of wrist strap for phones, so it is not that unusual. Most don't go full on vertex socp bag, but as long as I am making a gear list, that little socp dagger makes a good inside the belt last ditch weapon. Don't bring a fist to a knife fight.

If I do wear sandals, I recommend the ones from decathlon with a strap.

Rimeki
10-05-25, 23:08
The bombeiros wear running shoes at the beach, as do the cops. As a general rule, I try to dress like the local lifeguards, as chicks dig firemen.

Locals may mostly do sandals, but mobility is your friend. Also, while I am at it, about 25% of locals have some kind of wrist strap for phones, so it is not that unusual. Most don't go full on vertex socp bag, but as long as I am making a gear list, that little socp dagger makes a good inside the belt last ditch weapon. Don't bring a fist to a knife fight.

If I do wear sandals, I recommend the ones from decathlon with a strap.As playful as this might be meant, with the experience of 20+ years living in and travelling across South America, I'd strongly advise against any resistance. Unless they try to kidnap you, which is extremely unlikely in Rio.

Just hand over your belongings and make it easy for them. Don't play the hero. I remember that once, a foreign martial arts champion got robbed by two favela kids (literally under 15 year-olds) and beat up the first guy badly, only to catch a bullet in the head from the other kid.

Top 10 safety tips for all first timers:

# 1 - see above. Stay calm and make it easy for them. It's just money and maybe your phone. Not worth any risk. Remember, most of these guys have nothing to lose and are used to being violent.

# 2 - avoid empty streets, especially at night. When in doubt, call an Uber. Also, the beach is off limits after dark.

# 3 - avoid taxis. Ubers are a lot safer, but make sure to check the driver's face against that in your app. During the ride, keep windows closed and stash your phone when stopping in traffic. Gangs are known to smash car windows to steal phones in certain areas (unlikely in Zona Sul). Absolutely avoid buses and especially minibuses.

# 4 - leave all expensive bling at home. Don't even bother bringing fancy watches, gold necklaces or even expensive sunglasses to Brazil unless you don't mind them getting stolen. You'll just raise attention. Better blend in. Havaianas or sneakers, shorts, T-shirt or football Jersey. Sure, and wear your running shoes on the beach if you believe in the off chance that local garotas will mistake you for a fireman instead of a tourist.

# 5 - I use an old phone with a local SIM card (easy with CPF, but also possible at local phone provider offices but just bring passport) and only have Whatsapp, Google Maps and Uber installed. Most importantly no banking apps. Also, as general precaution, secure your main phone against fraud after theft (many online resources about this, absolutely advised anywhere, the issue is not your phone getting stolen, it's hackers getting into your bank accounts in no time unless well protected). It's actually quite liberating to not stare at your phone all day. No strap needed either if you only use it sparingly.

# 6 - I use a hidden pouch (worn under the belt) to carry passport, important cards and larger sums of cash. I only have a small wallet in my pocket with at least 50 R $ in cash (so thieve are happy and leave) and an expired or blocked credit card. So happy to hand over wallet and phone in case of robbery.

Pouch ex: https://www.walmart.com/ip/LANNEY-Money-Belt-for-Travel-RFID-Blocking-Travel-Wallet-Slim-Hidden-Passport-Holder-Travel-Pouch-for-Women-Men-with-10-RFID-Sleeves/14820366883?classType=VARIANT&athbdg=L1600

# 7 - Don't take girls back to your place unless the porteiro or reception register them. Boa noite cinderela is a thing. If you can't or don't want to register, take a picture of her ID and send it to your email. Or even better, take her to one of the many love hotels. Huge fun and worth the extra dime.

# 8 - Rio Centro is off limits on weekends and at night, unless you Uber it straight to the location of your choice. Make sure there is nobody lurking when you step out and ensure you have the right address and know where the entrance is. Be very cautious when in Lapa. Can be good fun but a lot more dangerous than Zona Sul. I only go partying there when I'm with at least one other guy. Copacabana is also shady, especially at night. Most first time tourists stay there and are easy targets. I spend 80+% of my time in Ipanema, Leblon or Barra.

# 9 - In any shady place, get bottles of beer and make sure to see how they are opened. Take your bottle with you when taking a leak.

# 10 - Trust your gut. If something feels strange, don't take the risk. Rio is not as dangerous as you may think but don't be lured into thinking it is safe either. Don't test your luck.

Some of this might feel like unnecessary precaution, but it's easy to implement and I have never been robbed in those 20+ years of travel in Brazil and elsewhere in South America (knock on wood).

Rio is an absolutely stunning city, so most importantly, have a blast!

Lakeside1
10-06-25, 19:53
First I would like to thank all of you that posted on previous trips, it helped tremendously. Most of the info has already been reported this is just my two cents.

Pre trip- Paid the $80 for the E-Visa online. The site said it would take up to three weeks for the approval but I got it the email in four days. Remember to print and bring to the airport. Delta gate agents said they would not let you board without it. I flew Delta direct for ATL to GIG departing at 11 PM arriving the next day at 10 AM.

Arrival- Very easy going through customs. The guy didn't ack me anything, just checked my paperwork and that was it. Uber cannot pickup up at the front of the airport. When you exit the terminal just turn left and continue waking all the way till the end of the terminal and you will see the Uber pickup points labeled purple, green and orange. Select your location and wait for your ride. Only had to wait 10 minutes. Ride from the airport to Copacabana is about 30 minutes.

Hotel- I stayed at the Hilton on Copacabana. I can't tell you if it's guess friendly or not I didn't ask. I also didn't see anyone doing the walk of shame.

Clubs- First was Cuatro por Cuatro. I arrived about 9 PM walked in and went to the bar downstairs. I wasn't completely sure how the process worked but one of the waiters motioned me over and gave me a card with a number so all you have to do is present the card and everything is tracked via the card. I was then shown upstairs where all the ladies were about 15 or so. Most were walking around in bikinis or little to nothing. Only a few guys were wearing robes, I guess they were locals. The obvious gringos just had on our street clothes. I stayed for about two hours talked to a few chicas but never took anyone to the rooms. When you leave they will direct you through the maze that will lead you to the exit. Here you will give the reception your card and she will tell you how much you owe. Prior to exiting the guy at the door will check receipt. I can't remember how much I paid but it was around $150 R for 3 X Heinekens and coke for one of the girls.

Second Club was Monte Carlo. I arrive around 7 PM. I walked to the front desk and before I could say anything she said its your first time? We had a quick laugh and she gave me my locker key with number tag and explained the process. I'm not really into the robe thing but it is what is. So I striped down and put the robe and flip-flops on and went up to the third floor (don't forget your phone you may need it to translate). When I walked in there were maybe 10 ladies waiting, me and two guys behind the bar. You can google search the name a see pictures inside the bar area. I walked over to the bar and they all stood up to present themselves. I told them to relax I'm just going to have a drink first. It's kind of hard to relax when you have everyone sitting looking at you waiting for you to make a selection. After about ten minutes another guy show up and I noticed he just put his rob over his street clothes. I didn't know that was an option. Anyway he goes to the bar and buys all the ladies a drink. I guess if you got it you got it, I'm not one to pocket watch. Anyway he sits down on the couch and starts chatting with his choice for the night. A few ladies come up to me and we make small talk and I tell each that I'm still looking. After an hour I make my selection and we head upstairs for a one hour session (you can choose 40 minutes or 1 HR session). When I get upstater they try to offer me a suite but I declined and we take more stair to the room. In the room she provided excellent service message, BBBJ, no rush. After we said our goodbyes and I went back to the locker room to shower. They have everything you need soap, toothbrush, mouthwash. After you change you go down stairs to turn in your key at the reception and she will tell you how much you owe. If you use a Credit Card there is an extra fee. She will then give you your receipt that you need to present to the door man before leaving. My total was about $950 R that included 2 X Heinekens one drink for her and the room.

MABS, I stopped by after leaving both cuatro por cuatro and MC each night just to see what it was like. The first night time I arrived around 1130. They had the football game on and the second night they had the UFC fight on and they stayed open extra late 3 AM to watch Brazil win. I didn't pick anyone up but there are a few very nice looking ladies that walk past. Guys just sit and watch the TV and girls stand around all the entrances walking around and around like sharks around fish. All waiting for someone to call them over to their table for drinks and negotiate the night.

Safety- I never felt uncomfortable walking around day or night. The main strip is very well lit at night and you can see everything with people that are just out waking their dogs. I walked from Monte Carlo to MABS and never felt threatened. I have read about people taking precautions with cell phones. I saw more people using their cell phones just like any place else in the world of course I would never walk down an unlit street at night try to take a selfie. I used the ATM just two blocks from the main strip. There is a charge but how much depends on you bank.

Language- I read that Brazilians don't speak Spanish or english which is true. Most Ubers I got the driver said they only spoke Portuguese. Each of the bars I went to I was able to hold somewhat of a conversation in my broken Spanish and somewhat understand each other. I rarely had to use google translate but all the venders that are on the beach walk have no problem trying to speak english when trying to sell you something.

Tourism- I hit all the major sites in Rio in my few days here. Recommend taking the Rio Somba hop on / off tour bus. It will take you to all the sites and you can decide later when and if you want to see the attractions. The tour lasted about two hours. Try to hit all the tourist sites early in the morning to avoid the crowds.

Beaches- If I had to choose Ipanema beach is better than Copacabana beach. Copacabana beach is less crowded because it has more area between the water and the shore walk with more of the tourist gringos and it is not the best for swimming but neither is Ipanema. Also people don't pick up their trash after. Ipanema seems more like a beach for locals but gets very crowded but the view of the ladies was much nicer in my opinion. It has more upscale beach bars. I'm not sure if this happens every Sunday but they closed one road off and everyone was out walking, running, biking from one beach to the other. So far as beach attire you can get away with flip-flops and shorts, hat and sunglasses. Recommend a small backpack to keep a bottle water, shirt, towel and walking running shoes. Each beach has spots to rinse off.

Pros / Cons for the ladies- I like the natural look with all different shades and sizes. Nice bodies although there are a few with enhancements (not a fan). Cons, I'm not into a lot of tattoos. I've noticed that seems to be the trend all over. Note the Termas open in the afternoon and close around midnight so get there early than later. I'm used to the action not to happen until after 11PM.

Over all it was a good first trip for me. Next trip will be longer and I will hit more areas.

Lakeside.

Rio Bob
10-06-25, 23:13
Always be safe, but if you ask me, some of these safety precautions are overdoing it. A Strap _ no way. Burner phone _ up to you.I agree, don't overthink it, some gringoes no matter what you do they are going to know you're a gringo. I doubt a Swiss ex commander no matter what he has on his feet or what t-shirt he is wearing is ever going to pass for a Brazilian on Barra beach. I'm part Italian and always thought I could pass as a Gaucho but have been told forget it you'll never pass as a Brazilian so just chill and be careful.

Vagabundo1
10-07-25, 16:35
I don't disagree, again. Avoiding resistance is the advice of anne amari and bubbaboy IF the attacker has weapons. But if he doesn't vagabundo's policy is to be ready to fight, and that is bubba boy's too. Look it up, it's in the guide, somewhere.

It's deterrence. Criminals have like 2 seconds to strike or pass, and if they see a vasco shirt they are going to pass.

Also training muay Thai / jiu jitsu definitely is good for fucking.

Finally, if you're here all the time, the game is different. 20 years in South America, but how long at a single trip in Rio de Janeiro?

Look, here is a good video from a channel you MUST use to learn Porto, and to entertain between fucking.

https://youtu.be/y2mccgB3XIk?si=UZTGKRZ_v1S-NvMt

Nota bene, the priest -- a fucking priest -- is carrying a glock. That is Rio. The priest also trains close combat, and the priest is also trying to fuck the hot little girl, meanwhile, he is telling the fat dude to use whey protein. That is Gregorio duvivier, one of the more famous local comics, and that is the situation in Rio.

Anyway, yesterday, Vagabundo did a hour in a centro prive with 40 minutes of fucking for the usual cost per fuck per minute of 6 ish, with the twist that vagabundo shot a wad of protein in her mouth.

There has been a disturbance in the force. Maybe it is all this political pressure that has even the fucking priests all torqued up about politics. Let us pray for peace by fucking our favorite Brazilian hoars.


As playful as this might be meant, with the experience of 20+ years living in and travelling across South America, I'd strongly advise against any resistance. Unless they try to kidnap you, which is extremely unlikely in Rio.

Just hand over your belongings and make it easy for them. Don't play the hero. I remember that once, a foreign martial arts champion got robbed by two favela kids (literally under 15 year-olds) and beat up the first guy badly, only to catch a bullet in the head from the other kid.

Top 10 safety tips for all first timers:

# 1 - see above. Stay calm and make it easy for them. It's just money and maybe your phone. Not worth any risk. Remember, most of these guys have nothing to lose and are used to being violent.

# 2 - avoid empty streets, especially at night. When in doubt, call an Uber. Also, the beach is off limits after dark..

ZuluTango25
10-08-25, 06:41
Stay. Ibis Copacabana post 5.

Stayed here for 4 days and hotel is modern and on par with 3 star hotels in USA. No daily room service and that is kind of surprising to me. They have a great breakfast buffet. This is a big hotel with busy traffic and had no issues girls visiting me at my room. I had 3 visits and no one at front desk bothered to ask them. Price in April was around $50 a day.

I restaurant and bar hopped around the area and felt safe. I did not see much issues with safety around the hotel. Uber pickups and drop offs were quick with out much wait times.

Block from the Ibis hotel there is an eatery named Predilto. They have amazing lunch specials for $5.

Monte Carlo. Visited two nights in a row and average price for girl, room, and couple of drinks came around BR 800. There were around 10 girls during my early night visit and I was able lucky to find girls that spoke / understand little English and hold conversation. GEF experienced in the room. Definitely worth a visit if you are in Rio.

Solarium. Prices are similar to Monte Carlo and little better selection of girls IMO. Visited 3 nights and had sessions with 2 girls both named Luana. Classic GEF sessions for under BR 800.

I also visited couple of provides from photoacompanhantes in Rio Centro area during day time. It required showing an ID at the front desk to access elevator. I carried a laminated copy of my passport and had no issues visiting them. I only picked providers that has decent and latest reviews on go-Guina and worked out well. For BR 300 it was a decent experience. In both cases, photos matched in person and.

Nounce
10-08-25, 14:31

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I agree, don't overthink it, some gringoes no matter what you do they are going to know you're a gringo. I doubt a Swiss ex commander no matter what he has on his feet or what t-shirt he is wearing is ever going to pass for a Brazilian on Barra beach. I'm part Italian and always thought I could pass as a Gaucho but have been told forget it you'll never pass as a Brazilian so just chill and be careful.I think the original question is about Sao Paulo so I will provide some personal experience and observation about it in Sao Paulo. I don't use strap and I don't carry a wallet. I don't have a protective case on my phone either. I still don't. I almost lost my phone to a passer-by on bicycle who tried to snatch it on a wide side walk. I don't have a protective case, so it is a little more difficult to grab and for me to hold on to it. The phone dropped to the ground so I did not lose it. There is at least one other occasion, the passer-by just tried to grab something from my pockets. All my pockets have zipper and one double layer that I kept important stuff. That attempt failed too. On several other occasions, the locals yelled at me to secure my phone.

It is a very well known problem. To overcome it, I am now more careful. If there is a stairs nearby, I would climb up to the top to use my phone. The area around Casarao is the most problematic area that this can happen. If you are calling a Uber, it is better to wait inside until the Uber arrives and not check your phone on the sidewalk. The robbery have been known to happen outside Bomboa in the past because there is less traffic.

I would suggest a neck strap if you want some insurance. You can hide it under the shirt or jacket. When you take it out to take pictures, it will be difficult to snatch it. I think robber target opportunity, not foreigners in particular. These things are behavior dependent. It is not one size fits all.

Vagabundo1
10-10-25, 12:26
Ah senor nounce, my comrade from paris cafe where that wench, what was her name, gave you bad service. I will stipulate as we public defenders in the southern district of New York say that I am not the norm. Ever since my sainted godfather, an italian air force officer gave me my first swiss army knife, I have been a confirmed gear fag, an afficionado of blades, guns, weapons, linked 7. 62 x 51 NATO M60's which we still used back in my era when my company commander proudly sported tiger stripe 'nam cammies to the office.

The office. There below the Ridge out by Joshua Tree. Across from Lake Bandini, on the frontage of lovely Lugano, where the Raviolis settled after their long trek from Lake Shasta.

Yesterday, that would be Thursday, or Quinta Feira in the language of the 5. 3 to 1 lesser latin tongued locals, my usual cherry torn came over and we banged slowly for 100 or maybe 110 minutes, right to about 30 minutes before the close, right there within the effective range of a tactical nuke of posto 3 in a kind of overcast, rainy, somber afternoon, to our favorite porn, eating some pasta from the condominium greasy spoon. She ordered the pasta with mignon bits of steak, I ordered spaghetti bolonhese, or is it bolonghese. I paid her 400 r in monopoly money, and put the 85 r for the pasta on my card. My cost per fuck per minute thus clocked in at a stately 4. 7 ish.

Selah.



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I think the original question is about Sao Paulo so I will provide some personal experience and observation about it in Sao Paulo. I don't use strap and I don't carry a wallet. I don't have a protective case on my phone either. I still don't. I almost lost my phone to a passer-by on bicycle who tried to snatch it on a wide side walk. I don't have a protective case, so it is a little more difficult to grab and for me to hold on to it. The phone dropped to the ground so I did not lose it. There is at least one other occasion, the passer-by just tried to grab something from my pockets. All my pockets have zipper and one double layer that I kept important stuff. That attempt failed too. On several other occasions, the locals yelled at me to secure my phone.

It is a very well known problem. To overcome it, I am now more careful. If there is a stairs nearby, I would climb up to the top to use my phone. The area around Casarao is the most problematic area that this can happen. If you are calling a Uber, it is better to wait inside until the Uber arrives and not check your phone on the sidewalk..

Chicago85
10-11-25, 00:23

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I think the original question is about Sao Paulo so I will provide some personal experience and observation about it in Sao Paulo. I don't use strap and I don't carry a wallet. I don't have a protective case on my phone either. I still don't......

... It is a very well known problem. To overcome it, I am now more careful. If there is a stairs nearby, I would climb up to the top to use my phone......

I would suggest a neck strap if you want some insurance. You can hide it under the shirt or jacket. When you take it out to take pictures, it will be difficult to snatch it. I think robber target opportunity, not foreigners in particular. These things are behavior dependent. It is not one size fits all.I simply suggest not carrying anything of value. For phone I bought a refurbished Google Pixel 7 a /8 a off of eBay with dual SIM. It's exceptionally easy to swap out SIMs / eSIMs when travelling and I keep the iPhone at home. It also makes it easier to keep monger life (and girls) separate from real life. For ID, I use an old state ID / passport card / or government ID. For credit card I use a Chase Visa and set a low limit, like $1500 (I've found Chase to have best fraud and identity protection, plus Visa accepted everywhere). I never carry a debit card, except when I am explicitly planning to get $$. Oftentimes I don't carry any cards, and just cash. If I may need more $$, I hide some in my sock or shoe (old school, but it works).

Some may call this overkill, but I am usually running solo and I have been mugged a couple times despite being a larger and younger guy.

Rimeki
10-12-25, 07:37
I don't disagree, again. Avoiding resistance is the advice of anne amari and bubbaboy IF the attacker has weapons. But if he doesn't vagabundo's policy is to be ready to fight, and that is bubba boy's too. Look it up, it's in the guide, somewhere.

It's deterrence. Criminals have like 2 seconds to strike or pass, and if they see a vasco shirt they are going to pass.

Also training muay Thai / jiu jitsu definitely is good for fucking.

Finally, if you're here all the time, the game is different. 20 years in South America, but how long at a single trip in Rio de Janeiro?

Look, here is a good video from a channel you MUST use to learn Porto, and to entertain between fucking.Good video indeed.

Learning Portuguese is worth every effort and something I've been recommending everyone who goes there regularly or for a prolonged period of time.

You get so much more out of the experience in every part of your day. And of course it's a game changer with the garotas.

Dominating the language adds massively to the gringo bonus, once you also figure out the caveman way of pickup, you are almost unbeatable in a club as long as you are confident and not hideous. In my 30's, pulling the hottest chicks out of upscale clubs like the glorious Barronetti and Nuth was as easy as as ordering a chopp. Ah, those days.

And of course it very much adds to safety. Being at ease with the language and knowing the place that's you walk around with a different type of confidence (a dagger may add to that but I'd rather not have anything on me that I'm willing to fight for).

And to Rio Bobs quote, I'm actually Austrian and do mostly get taken for a Brazilian by the locals.

That's the beauty of Brazil. Everybody can blend in as long as you adapt with the clothing style, loosen up and maybe get a little bit of a tan.

Being white, you can completely forget about that anywhere in Asia.

There is just no place like Brazil, and I congratulate you on having made this fabulous country your home (one fine day I'll move back as well), and having learned the language properly. Way to go!

Vagabundo1
10-12-25, 16:43
Well said, and to that I would add that the local soccer shirt always helps.

The team down in Porto Allegre is internacional, you can look it up. You can be the whitest white, but the locals will appreciate the effort, the joke, if you wear the shirt of a local team, not the national shirt, but go down to metro uruguiana, and walk down in the stalls in saara, the shopping market, and pick out a local Brazilian team.

In SP, I am palmeiras. A few years back ISGer Michael Samuel and I went to a vasco game (we couldn't get in but had a great time at a local shop watching it outside with the locals near a UPP station). They had this great shirt half vasco and half palmeiras, which if memory serves is the Italian team, and being Italian by nurture, the clan being from Lake Como in the Dolomites, I still have it somewhere in my new beach apartment kept with pride, even though the Irish pennants are decorating it.

Well, I see Lula and Trump are sniffing around like dogs who have marked their territory by pissing in circles, so I hope that the world is safe for banging the 20 year old Melanias of the world while they are still freshly out of their teens. Not to advocate being a humanitarian or anything, but I helped ann amari with her rent the other day because she had gotten a real job at a burger joint, and had not gone back to hoaring, just because that is the future of humanity. A 23 year old dark negra with nothing but the pit bull I bought her when she would stay over for 4 nights for 800 r and importantly, all you can smoke ganja. May my generosity buy me five more decades of banging all the ladies of Rio's favelas and the rich exchange students alike with unlimited admiration for my German bratwurst.

Selah.


Good video indeed.

Learning Portuguese is worth every effort and something I've been recommending everyone who goes there regularly or for a prolonged period of time.

You get so much more out of the experience in every part of your day. And of course it's a game changer with the garotas.

Dominating the language adds massively to the gringo bonus, once you also figure out the caveman way of pickup, you are almost unbeatable in a club as long as you are confident and not hideous. In my 30's, pulling the hottest chicks out of upscale clubs like the glorious Barronetti and Nuth was as easy as as ordering a chopp. Ah, those days.

And of course it very much adds to safety. Being at ease with the language and knowing the place that's you walk around with a different type of confidence (a dagger may add to that but I'd rather not have anything on me that I'm willing to fight for).

DeepThoughts7
10-17-25, 03:46
Hi, I have really enjoyed reading the posts over the past few months. I wanted to politely ask for some guidance.

I plan to visit some termas when I am in Rio and prefer to be in a more upscale setting. I want to avoid having an escort visit my room for privacy purposes or having to register her.

Is it safe to assume that the termas Centaurus and Monte Carlo are higher end and more upscale when compared to Solarium and 4 x4? Meaning the ladies there are generally more classy and elegant?

Xpartan
10-17-25, 06:36
Hi, I have really enjoyed reading the posts over the past few months. I wanted to politely ask for some guidance.

I plan to visit some termas when I am in Rio and prefer to be in a more upscale setting. I want to avoid having an escort visit my room for privacy purposes or having to register her.

Is it safe to assume that the termas Centaurus and Monte Carlo are higher end and more upscale when compared to Solarium and 4 x4? Meaning the ladies there are generally more classy and elegant?Centaurus: the nicest and priciest terma with annoyingly hardcore girls latching on to you as soon as you walk in and having an issue taking no for an answer.

Monte Carlo and Solarium: Nice termas, but very small. Also pricey, but cheaper than Centaurus. Girls aren't aggressive and wait till you pick them.

4 x4: Not as classy, but lively and fun. Lots of girls and the cheapest of all Tier 1 termas.

Curtis Andreas
10-17-25, 07:44
Hi, I have really enjoyed reading the posts over the past few months. I wanted to politely ask for some guidance.

I plan to visit some termas when I am in Rio and prefer to be in a more upscale setting. I want to avoid having an escort visit my room for privacy purposes or having to register her.

Is it safe to assume that the termas Centaurus and Monte Carlo are higher end and more upscale when compared to Solarium and 4 x4? Meaning the ladies there are generally more classy and elegant?I've never been to Centaurus, but I would say Solarium is more upscale than Monte Carlo. Monte Carlo looks quite run down on the inside and I would say the woman is Solarium are better looking and probably classier as most are in nice dresses. Monte Carlo is definitely worth visiting but I wouldn't expect Scandello from any of these places, all of them are more or less standard working girl houses.

Axel Heyst
10-17-25, 12:20
I plan to visit some termas when I am in Rio and prefer to be in a more upscale setting. I want to avoid having an escort visit my room for privacy purposes or having to register her.

Is it safe to assume that the termas Centaurus and Monte Carlo are higher end and more upscale when compared to Solarium and 4 x4? Meaning the ladies there are generally more classy and elegant?If you are looking for "a more upscale setting," then you should go to Sao Paulo where all the high end Boates like Scandallo and Bomboa are located. You will sacrifice the physical beauty of RJ, but I do not think you will regret it thanks to the quality and quantity of SP Boate girls.

But if RJ remains your choice destination, and there is nothing wrong with this decision, then understand that the RJ termas are a step down in scale and quality from SP Boates. And with that said, I rate Solarium ahead of Centaurus and Monte Carlo because I like their girls better. Standard Solarium rooms are very small with tiny beds, however. Yet everything is clean, and you will have a good time, but here is a tip, you might want a room upgrade. You should also check out 4 x 4, not for its "upscale setting" LOL, but for its party party atmosphere and also Perola Negra.

Turgid
10-17-25, 16:49
I tend to find myself leaning more towards Rio de Janeiro in recent times. The ambience and vibe of the city is second to none, Sao Paulo is way behind in that respect. SP does have hotter babes and more luxurious clubs but I'm guessing if a monger can't find equally hot babes in the termas in Rio he should be able to find them online.

Steve 9696
10-17-25, 18:01
Pretty aligned with most guys here plus a little extra color:

Hands down SP if classy setting and top girls are your priority. Scandallo has no equal worldwide.

If you decide Rio then I think Monte Carlo and Solarium are classier than Centaurus and 4 x4. To me 4 x4 is more a down market atmosphere but if you like a hopping club vibe it def has that over the other places. Centaurus feels less classy because the girls are absolute sharks. Unless you are a pro at this yourself the Centaurus girls will eat you alive.

Solarium is classy but I don't like the vibe. It feels like I'm hooking up at an ice cream parlor all bright and sterile.

I like Monte Carlo best because it's a chill bar atmosphere. And even if only ten girls I would take about 8 out of ten. Never had a poor experience there.

The Cane
10-17-25, 19:37
In Rio, in terms of the facilities themselves, in my view Centaurus is the classiest. But it's still not on par with what Sampa has to offer, and I'm not just talking about Scandallo either. But then in terms of the girls themselves, which is really what the OP is getting at, I don't think any of the major termas in Rio have the advantage. I mean, it's hard for me to associate "classiness" with any termas LOL! And then there's always the change factor. The place that was hot last time is not this time, and vice versa. The lineups are in constant flux. To the OP, the best thing you can do is just go and check out as many places as you can. Find out what works for you. But after a long time, I have finally come around to putting Sampa ahead of Rio. If you want to go to some classy clubs with some pretty girls, give Sao Paulo a try. In my view, Rio really isn't a place you go to for "classy". More like down and dirty and nasty! And I love it like that!

Be Wilder
10-17-25, 20:47
Pretty aligned with most guys here plus a little extra color:

Hands down SP if classy setting and top girls are your priority. Scandallo has no equal worldwide.

If you decide Rio then I think Monte Carlo and Solarium are classier than Centaurus and 4 x4. To me 4 x4 is more a down market atmosphere but if you like a hopping club vibe it def has that over the other places. Centaurus feels less classy because the girls are absolute sharks. Unless you are a pro at this yourself the Centaurus girls will eat you alive.

Solarium is classy but I don't like the vibe. It feels like I'm hooking up at an ice cream parlor all bright and sterile.

I like Monte Carlo best because it's a chill bar atmosphere. And even if only ten girls I would take about 8 out of ten. Never had a poor experience there.I haven't yet had the pleasure of shoring in SP but hope to one day. Was lucky enough to have a few days in Rio earlier this year and visited Centaurus, Monte Carlo and Solarium and agree with your summary of them though I did enjoy the vibe at Solarium but would put it behind Monte Carlo. I would say Centaurus had the most beautiful girls or rather more beautiful girls but were sharks / scammers in that they delivered poor service and were looking to shake more money for services that ought to have been included. If you go there you need to be firm and specify what services are included before you go to the room but it is so easy to lose discipline when the girls are rubbing your dick and inviting you to grope and lick on their tits during negotiations!

Combo
10-18-25, 01:10
Centaurus: the nicest and priciest terma with annoyingly hardcore girls latching on to you as soon as you walk in and having an issue taking no for an answer.

Monte Carlo and Solarium: Nice termas, but very small. Also pricey, but cheaper than Centaurus. Girls aren't aggressive and wait till you pick them.

4 x4: Not as classy, but lively and fun. Lots of girls and the cheapest of all Tier 1 termas.This is a perfect summary.

DeepThoughts7
10-18-25, 02:02
This is a perfect summary.Dear all, thank you so much for all your guidance and advice. It is much appreciated! I am only planning a trip of maybe 3-4 days to Rio as a tourist; the hop on hop off bus tour, Sugar Loaf Mountain, cable car ride, visit the Redeemer statue, and may be walking around in the daytime in LeBlon. Unfortunately, I am not planning on going to Sao Paulo. I am starting to regret this now.

Based on the summaries, I have gleaned the following rankings:

(1 & 2) Solarium and Monte Carlo are tied.
(2) Centaurus.
(3) 4 x4, different vibe.

I will try all the termas, including Centaurus, except 4 x4. However, everyone has warned while Centaurus is bigger, has pretty ladies, it also has very pushy and aggressive ladies. I personally hate being followed around and pressured. I am very gentle, and I hate having to politely say no to a lady more than once. I have been warned.

Once again thank you so much. I will also be very careful in Rio and am very grateful for all the advice provided in other discussion threads regarding safety.

The Cane
10-18-25, 07:11
I will try all the termas, including Centaurus, except 4 x4. However, everyone has warned while Centaurus is bigger, has pretty ladies, it also has very pushy and aggressive ladies. I personally hate being followed around and pressured. I am very gentle, and I hate having to politely say no to a lady more than once. I have been warned.That's a mistake. Quatro por Quatro (4 x4) is legendary and not to be missed. Centaurus is only a shell of its former self, and some of the guys here now weren't even going to Rio when it was good, so they can't make the comparison. It was so bad when I went earlier this year that for the first time ever since I have been going to Rio, I considered dropping it the next trip. So sad as Centaurus was the first terma I ever went to. So many good memories! My strong recommendation if you aren't going to go to all of them is to drop Centaurus then. I mean, if as you acknowledge you've been warned, why would you still go there and deal with the sharks anyway and drop the one with the best atmosphere? Makes no sense. Go to Monte Carlo, Solarium, and 4 x4. If you're going to skip one then skip Centaurus! You've been warned again. I found my best girl last trip at 4 x4 (see pics). I often find the best tutes at Quatro.

Xpartan
10-18-25, 07:37
Dear all, thank you so much for all your guidance and advice. It is much appreciated! I am only planning a trip of maybe 3-4 days to Rio as a tourist; the hop on hop off bus tour, Sugar Loaf Mountain, cable car ride, visit the Redeemer statue, and may be walking around in the daytime in LeBlon. Unfortunately, I am not planning on going to Sao Paulo. I am starting to regret this now.

Based on the summaries, I have gleaned the following rankings:.3-4 days in Rio is not nearly enough for a city of this magnitude, but if you MUST limit your visit to 3-4 days, I recommend the following.

1. Make it 4 full days at least.

2. Forget Leblon. It's far away in Rio traffic.

2. Check the weather for tourist stuff (Sugarloaf and Corcovado). Clouds matter.

3. Forget the Hop On bus. You simply won't have time. Take tours to the attractions (yes, that'll cost you more, but they'll pick you up and drop you off and have your tickets).

Good luck!

Exoticspirit
10-18-25, 12:26
There was this dude on YouTube who claimed that Rio is so connected with credit cards that even many beach vendors has a machine now so cash is hardly needed while in the city. What do you guys think about using credit cards at the main termas? Is there any risk of them padding up the prices on your card and are payments for the girls done through the termas rather than directly to the girls? I imagine that most of the termas have their own set rates for the girls depending on time or am I wrong on this?

Junior
10-18-25, 13:31
There was this dude on YouTube who claimed that Rio is so connected with credit cards that even many beach vendors has a machine now so cash is hardly needed while in the city. What do you guys think about using credit cards at the main termas? Is there any risk of them padding up the prices on your card and are payments for the girls done through the termas rather than directly to the girls? I imagine that most of the termas have their own set rates for the girls depending on time or am I wrong on this?Termas usually add a surcharge if you use a credit card.

Rimeki
10-18-25, 22:29
Gents, has anyone ever been to Prisma Terapias and can advise? Looks like a good lineup. Assuming the pics are close to reality, but I can neither find reviews on GParena not elsewhere, which is usually not a good sign for such an established place.

https://prismaterapias.com.br/

The Cane
10-19-25, 05:14
3-4 days in Rio is not nearly enough for a city of this magnitude!Right, for my first trip way back when, I was going to stay only for 5 days. I had a buddy literally screaming at me to stay at least 10 days minimum. I listened and was so, so glad I did. And those 10 days were the shortest trip I ever took to Rio too LOL!

Xpartan
10-19-25, 08:24
Gents, has anyone ever been to Prisma Terapias and can advise? Looks like a good lineup. Assuming the pics are close to reality, but I can neither find reviews on GParena not elsewhere, which is usually not a good sign for such an established place.

https://prismaterapias.com.br/I think I have, and it's a massage place, no FS.

HarryMonk
10-19-25, 19:56
I think I have, and it's a massage place, no FS.How do these places operate then. Just looking at some of the girls I'd deduce more than just massage is on offer, of course I could be wrong.

Maybe it's happy ending?

Exoticspirit
10-19-25, 21:57
Right, for my first trip way back when, I was going to stay only for 5 days. I had a buddy literally screaming at me to stay at least 10 days minimum. I listened and was so, so glad I did. And those 10 days were the shortest trip I ever took to Rio too LOL!I figure one can do the main tourist sites within a few days and even if one mongers every night, how would one spend the rest of the daytime hours of a trip IF one is not really a beach person?

The Cane
10-20-25, 05:10
I figure one can do the main tourist sites within a few days and even if one mongers every night, how would one spend the rest of the daytime hours of a trip IF one is not really a beach person?I'm totally not a beach person either. I mean, I like the fact that it's there, but you will never find me lounging on it. Now, I often need to recuperate from the late night before LOL! Guys remember, if you're on a serious mongering trip you don't have to be "doing something" all the time. Especially if you've already been to Brazil before and done all of the touristy stuff. Get your sleep. Eat. Read. Surf the internet. Watch a movie or TV. Take a walk. Pay some bills from back home! I like to report on ISG, so I often will use daytime hours to write some reports. The point is that most of us need some downtime, especially as we get older. Take that downtime, and don't feel like you have to be on the go all the time. Otherwise, you're going to just burn yourself out, and maybe even get sick if your immune system is run down and weak. Some guys aren't night owls and like to monger in the daytime exclusively. That's fine too. They can just reverse things and get their downtime at night. And for you guys who can still go hard around the clock? More power to you!

Xpartan
10-20-25, 06:06
How do these places operate then. Just looking at some of the girls I'd deduce more than just massage is on offer, of course I could be wrong.

Maybe it's happy ending?Yes, they provide happy ending and tantric, but no BJ or FS. That's what I meant.

Rimeki
10-20-25, 23:03
Yes, they provide happy ending and tantric, but no BJ or FS. That's what I meant.OK perfect, thanks. I don't care about FS.

I'm much rather prefer "massagem mutua" s as long as she is really hot, knows how to delay the blast. And most importantly I can touch her anywhere.

I got some good training in massage techniques a long time ago and the garotas usually freak out.

More often than not they beg me to fuck them. Especially if I told them FS is off limits up front.

It's great fun and they usually make an extra effort as well.

Anyways, I'll check them out and will report!

Hope the chicks are closer to the hotness in the pics.

Exoticspirit
10-21-25, 12:08
I'm totally not a beach person either. I mean, I like the fact that it's there, but you will never find me lounging on it. Now, I often need to recuperate from the late night before LOL! Guys remember, if you're on a serious mongering trip you don't have to be "doing something" all the time. Especially if you've already been to Brazil before and done all of the touristy stuff. Get your sleep. Eat. Read. Surf the internet. Watch a movie or TV. Take a walk. Pay some bills from back home! I like to report on ISG, so I often will use daytime hours to write some reports. The point is that most of us need some downtime, especially as we get older. Take that downtime, and don't feel like you have to be on the go all the time. Otherwise, you're going to just burn yourself out, and maybe even get sick if your immune system is run down and weak. Some guys aren't night owls and like to monger in the daytime exclusively. That's fine too. They can just reverse things and get their downtime at night. And for you guys who can still go hard around the clock? More power to you!This is wise advice which I see is easily transferrable to not just Brazil but to southeast Asia where the daytime hours are just so hot and humid outside. Perhaps after all the touristy stuff is done, it's just best to learn to chill.

Vagabundo1
10-22-25, 01:07
The Week in Baseball.

Vagabundo last Thursday banged Nina Deponca twice, bare with creampies, after she came to visit me at the new luv shack in barra posto 1-12. I mean, I won't bore you with details except she also did a good deep tissue massage, and I paid her 200, slapped her on her ass, and pushed her out the door. I also bought her some pasta from the in house greasy spoon on the way in from the beach, which is a plus for the new condo.

Monday, Vagabundo banged for 90 minutes call sign cherry torn, a top prive girl, for 450 including uber in the new place. As a good podcast, Diary of a CEO notes, when a couple picks porn together, it is a good thing as opposed to what most rich world men porn customers consume, which is jerking off by themselves which is probably most of you, dear reader with Brazil withdrawal syndrome.

OK, let's see, in between, Friday, Vagabundo had a good week selling crypto bitcoin vol (atility) in weekly expiration. Just going for it, and undoubtedly a good fuck is therapeutic, and actually, I got good at trading on the phone on the beach. Speaking of which a surf in out in recreio has starlink wifi.

Speaking of which Sunday, Vagabundo showed around a new ISG friend, afternoon dinner in Barra, evening tour of Mosaico and Vila Mimosa. Mosaico is worth it, but best later at midnight, or at least 23 h. We got there 20 h30. There are some better spots in VM, Queen 46. Now, the ask is 120 r for a half hour when before, just a few years ago it was 80 r for a half hour. It was a rainy day, so most girls did not show. The best wingmen should stay at the actual casa while wingman sessions as there are actual strong arm thefts in the casas which some ISG members have reported. Also took new friend by Surfinn in Recreio Praia Macumba, and Casuarina at Posto 10, all key checkpoints in Barra / Recreio. Cover at Mosaico was 30 r. After foot patrol of Mosaico / VM, we walked back to Metro Sao Christavao, where there are some streetwalkers at a motel. We did take the metro back towards Copa, and got off at Gloria to go to UpHouse in Lapa, which had a cover of are $100.

Darkroom now Dayrelax has a new address which you can find on their website, https://www.dayrelax.com.br/.

Vagabundo has a whatsapp group for those actually in Rio de Janeiro, so send me a PM if you want to be added.

Selah.

Tribute15
10-22-25, 15:29
Gents, has anyone ever been to Prisma Terapias and can advise? Looks like a good lineup. Assuming the pics are close to reality, but I can neither find reviews on GParena not elsewhere, which is usually not a good sign for such an established place.

https://prismaterapias.com.br/Its a massage place, but everything is on the menu. Including FS. You pay for massage separate and negotiate with the girl for what you want. Don't pay more that 300 reals.

Turgid
10-22-25, 19:50
OK perfect, thanks. I don't care about FS........If I didn't care about FS there'd be no reason for me to be outside of 'merica.

Rimeki
10-24-25, 22:42
Its a massage place, but everything is on the menu. Including FS. You pay for massage separate and negotiate with the girl for what you want. Don't pay more that 300 reals.Thanks mate. Are the garotas somewhat as hot as in the pics? According to a Gparena forum post, the pics are heavily edited. I don't care if they alter the face for privacy reasons as long as the chicks are not substantially less attractive.

ThisOneFs1
10-24-25, 23:12
I have visited SP multiple times and have gone to clinicas, casarao and scandello.

I have a half day to spend in Rio 4 pm to 8 pm. What is the best place?

Do we negotiate price with girls in termas and they have rooms like casarao?

What is the range in the 4 teams mentioned here.

Any good clinicals recommended?

Xpartan
10-25-25, 03:14
I have visited SP multiple times and have gone to clinicas, casarao and scandello.

I have a half day to spend in Rio 4 pm to 8 pm. What is the best place?

Do we negotiate price with girls in termas and they have rooms like casarao?

What is the range in the 4 teams mentioned here.

Any good clinicals recommended?You have 4 hours in Rio? Now I've seen everything, LOL.

Look, no offense, but what does it even mean? Are you arriving by air? By bus? Car? Where are you arriving? Centro, Copacabana, other areas? You know that Rio is a sprawling megapolis, right?

Anyway, just for the sake of providing SOME information, go either to 4 x 4 in Centro or Monte Carlo in Copa if you want a terma. The prices are fixed, they do have rooms, no negotiations are needed.

ThisOneFs1
10-25-25, 05:25
You have 4 hours in Rio? Now I've seen everything, LOL.

Look, no offense, but what does it even mean? Are you arriving by air? By bus? Car? Where are you arriving? Centro, Copacabana, other areas? You know that Rio is a sprawling megapolis, right?

Anyway, just for the sake of providing SOME information, go either to 4 x 4 in Centro or Monte Carlo in Copa if you want a terma. The prices are fixed, they do have rooms, no negotiations are needed.Ha ha. Should have added more details. Reaching SDU around 8 am. Doing some tourist spots till lunch. Want to use the second half and get back to SDU around 11 pm.

Does Rio has clinicas like SP as well?

Combo
10-25-25, 22:24
Ha ha. Should have added more details. Reaching SDU around 8 am. Doing some tourist spots till lunch. Want to use the second half and get back to SDU around 11 pm.

Does Rio has clinicas like SP as well?Easily enough time to do a Termas run, especially given your arrival and departure are from SDU. Assuming it's a weekday, I'd head over to 4 X4 late afternoon. Or if you're already in Zona Sul, go to Monte Carlo or Centaurus.

HarryMonk
10-25-25, 22:53
Its a massage place, but everything is on the menu. Including FS. You pay for massage separate and negotiate with the girl for what you want. Don't pay more that 300 reals.Wish I'd had this intel before my last trip.

Went to a massage place only expected a legit treatment but it ended up being so much more.

The whole deal was expensive IMO but I had a great time with a lovely lady so no problem, just should have been better informed I guess.

It's made me realize the options potentially available for next time.

ThisOneFs1
10-25-25, 22:53
Easily enough time to do a Termas run, especially given your arrival and departure are from SDU. Assuming it's a weekday, I'd head over to 4 X4 late afternoon. Or if you're already in Zona Sul, go to Monte Carlo or Centaurus.It's on Saturday.

Rimeki
10-26-25, 05:19
Confrades,

Here's an interesting find that confirms how inflated Fatalmodel prices are:

- "Anninha" on Fatalmodel (FM) charges are $550 per hour: https://fatalmodel.com/acompanhante/1932056/anninha-1932056.

- Same chick is advertised as "Lara Ricci" on GPArena for are $350 per hour: https://gparena.net/td-show.php?t=13948.

-- FM price is a whopping 60% higher.

-- FM is be easier to navigate with its filters (and being in English), but this comes at a cost.

-- ADVICE: If you find a garota you like on FM, make sure to research her on GPArena. Search function sucks on GPArena but the last 4 digits of the phone number are usually a good identifier.

-- ADVICE: Like in this case, you may not only find the same girl under a different name at a substantially lower rate (she'll know from where you came depending on how you address her and will charge accordingly), but may also be able to avoid scams (see "ANGEL" below).

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Other research findings:

"LARA RICCI": GPArena also has its downsides.

- I was looking forward to testing her based on the positive GPArena reviews and the very hot pics (huge fan of young, slim natural chicks with big unbutchered tits and no / few tattoos).

- Coincidentally stumbled over her pics on Fatalmodel.

-- One big downside of GPArena is that age is rarely mentioned. Turns out she is 30 as per FM (which is most likely also a lie).

-- One pic of FM shows her boobs the way they probably really are: https://files.fatalmodel.com/shared/pr/media/16322783/16322783_20240730115834.jpg.

-- Tits are saggy and appear much smaller than on the other pics, which were either taken ages ago or more likely stolen (areolas look different). That in combination with age made her fall out of my list. Moreover, her FM video shows that she is far from being as tight as her GPArena pics may suggest.

-- Only in a very recent TD on GPArena, a tester mentions that the pics are "way overrated". Previous entries were. It seems. Overly positive.

-- ADVICE: Skimming through GPArena reviews with the hope to find a few more critical testers is helpful to gauge how accurate pictures really are. I am mostly looking for reviews that speak to that accuracy. Unfortunately most just focus on bragging what studs they are, while fishing in an aquarium.

-- ADVICE: It may take more than just a handful of positive GPArena reviews to better assess a girl. If she just has 1-2 reviews, you are gambling. She might be a winner, new to the business and unspoiled by hundreds of dicks, but chances of fake or at least highly unbalanced reviews and, in consequence, possible unpleasant surprises, are also much higher.

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"ANGEL" on Fatalmodel:

- Looks extremely hot for my taste, I would even not mind the small boobs https://fatalmodel.com/acompanhante/2346225/angel-2346225.

- BUT: Checking on GPArena, she seems to be fishy: https://mail.gparena.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=144042&hilit=6083#p144042.

- Text reads: "A GP named Angel, with a phone number ending in 6083, directly asked the Arena member (100% reliable) who had posted their report to remove it. Of course it was a lie, and she even threatened him. Out of respect for him and his request, we took it down. So watch out for this person and that number so you don't get into trouble, folks. The truth really hurts."

-- Reaffirms how checking against GPArena is a good thing.

-- However, GPArena seems to regularly take down profiles reviews, most usually based on request of the hoars or the guys behind them, so *not* finding chicks that are popular on other sites on GPArena is at least a yellow flag.

-- Given that GPArena's search is so crappy, it's not as easy as it should be to find these takedown messages.

-- That said, this takedown was based on a single person's complaint (she might just as well have refused to suck his dirty old crooked cock without protection), and maybe she's legit.

-- QUESTION: She has 10 reviews on FM. Does someone have an idea how trustworthy these are compared to GPArena? Did anyone meet her?

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"SOFIA BLEDES".

- Extremely hot pics and videos on Riosexsite and Private 55: https://www.riosexsite.com/escort/SofiaBledes

- However, nothing to be found on GPArena or GPGuia. Very high chance of fake.

-- QUESTION: Did anyone test her or know more about her?

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"MISTICA MASSAGENS": https://misticaterapias.com.br/

- Lots of highly appealing profiles, especially Sthe (Thaina and Anne.

- No reviews to be found on GPArena or GPGuia. Might be that they just massage (absolutely fine for me if "massagem mtua" is an option), but still suspicious.

- Pics might be as AI enhanced as those at PRISMA (unfortunately) seem to be.

- Good thing about massage places is that you can go, see the lineup and leave if they are hideous (unless they do that stupid tablet thing like at palms. A strong reason not to go there)

- Question: Has anybody ever been there? And if so, tested any of the girls named above?

I continue to search for true stunners (happy to shell out are $ 1 k or more for astonishing beauties), but it's not easy. Any recommendations (Rio and SP) more than welcome!

Xpartan
10-26-25, 09:09
It's on Saturday.4 x 4 is open on Sat evening as a boite (no robes), and it's very close to SDU. If your sightseeing tour brings you back to Copa, then MC gives full terma experience.

Tribute15
10-26-25, 12:13
They have some hot girls available.


Thanks mate. Are the garotas somewhat as hot as in the pics? According to a Gparena forum post, the pics are heavily edited. I don't care if they alter the face for privacy reasons as long as the chicks are not substantially less attractive.

SoberHans69
10-26-25, 18:43
4 x 4 is open on Sat evening as a boite (no robes), and it's very close to SDU. If your sightseeing tour brings you back to Copa, then MC gives full terma experience.I was there last night around 7 pm. There was only around 7 girls there at that time but 2 or 3 I would have taken. Took a mixed race girl and had a good session, can't remember her name though, sorry.

Xpartan
10-27-25, 06:14
I was there last night around 7 pm. There was only around 7 girls there at that time but 2 or 3 I would have taken. Took a mixed race girl and had a good session, can't remember her name though, sorry.Yeah. Was my experience too, but you only need one. Still prefer the whole terma rucus though, more fun.

MasterOfNone
10-27-25, 22:05
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MasterOfNone
10-27-25, 22:10
Report:

First posts ever on this forum and first time in Brazil. Giving back since the the forum has been so useful. 2 part series. See Sao Paulo for Part 2. All prices in brl. I don't do BBFS.

Sunday night:

I had been talking to several chicks from gparena. I encountered "LW"'s reviews a couple days ago, a newbie of just 2 months but extraordinary feedback given. I hardly slept fantasizing about her Saturday night since she told me she was down for Sunday evening but on the day of, I couldn't reach her. Left on undelivered. Maybe her phone was off? I scrambled to replace her, and eventually landed on a blonde who had nice features from the forum. She was weird in communication, very overbearing but I was eager to get a nut in. She was decent, but older than I thought, good BBJ, but I found the gum chewing beforehand gross and she was just annoying in general, not a bad person or anything, but I wanted her gone. I gave her hour rate 500 and sent her packing in about 20 minutes after pumping her a few minutes.

PRO tip. Use your gut. If the interaction is off in some way over messaging, use your gut.

Monday Day:

LW messages me in the morning apologizing for her phone not being functional. I ask if she's free in the afternoon. I want to get her as soon as possible. She quotes 300/ HR to visit me plus uber. I ask for 2 hours.

What follows is not only the best mongering experience I have had, but the best sexual experience, and possibly one of the best experiences I have ever had. Incredible hourglass and caramel skin 100% natural no cosmetics, only a few tattoos. Mouth kissing skills off the chart total GFE. The only provider I have ever eaten out and wow was it like ambrosia. She orgasms hard. Then we have incredible GFE in different positions. She orgasms again. Wow I can't stop making out with her. We rest and chat a bit. She is incredible as a personality. This is like someone you can introduce to anyone in your circle unabashedly. We continue making out and I get hard again. We go again and climax together, her strong core pulsates all up and down my shaft as she cums. WOW. This trip has already justified itself.

Monday Night:

I'm with a couple friends and we go to the terma MonteCarlo.

They put us in these bathrobes smh, and these old guys are talking to us in the locker room. This is not good. Upstairs, it's small with maybe 10 -15 girls only a few of which are decent. I decide to do an hour with one since she is giving good vibes and personality. Tall morena with bolt ONS and brasil team color bikini. I order the cheapest room but there is no shower. It makes no sense. No shower is a problem for them. Don't you want guys to shower? The whole setup was gross for me. She gives great bbj for many minutes, but I'm already fucked out for the day and just ask her to give me a massage instead. There was a cover charge, room charge and provider charge. 800 all together including some beers I had.

Tuesday Day:

I have another gparena I am super excited about "Eva". This one requires me to go to her place in El centro in Rio, a new adventure, but it's a big high rise with security. Unlike LW, she is a veteran, one of the most popular on their forum with lots of history and reputation. All natural, sumptuous boobs, petite but full frame curvy but fit caramel morena, just the way I like it. 90 minutes for 500 with 100 extra for anal. Never done anal before but I figure this is the perfect opportunity with a real vetted professional. I had a great time with her, she suggests we start with anal. It was pretty tight for my preference, but I enjoyed it nonetheless with her on top cowgirl nice and slow. Switch condoms because I want to enjoy her pussy a little. I have a thought, can she finish me with her mouth? A difficult task, but she is highly skilled and I come in her mouth laying on my back (she doesn't swallow). I'm shocked to learn that she is in her early 30's. She looks 25. She says her secret is that too many women age themselves fast with substances. Had a few minutes fun time talking to her after about anal. She gives me my first ever rimjob. Wow what an experience from a veteran pro. I shower and take off.

Tuesday Night:

We decide to go to Dolce Vita around 11 ish, but there's no one there. The guy outside arranges a taxi for us to go to Marrakesh club. This club has a single stripper pole and most of the women are not attractive, but there are a couple good ones. Cover is 100 and they keep making us buy drinks. There is a takeout fee for the women but I don't remember what it was as I don't bite. The place actually got reasonably busy by 1 or 2 AM. I think it's worth checking out but don't go with high hopes.

Wednesday Day:

I'm super excited for my Repeat with LW. She will come over once again in the afternoon. This time we already know each other so it's off to the races. I savor and taste her wonderful pussy again and make her come twice in less than an hour. Her kissing skills are off the charts, it's ridiculous. I tell her that for the second hour I just want to chill and enjoy the fresh air and chat a bit. She says she wants to enjoy every moment with me as I will be leaving tomorrow and this will be our last meet. She is addicted to making out with me. Wow is this a GFE of GFE's. The two hours are up and I point out "wow look you made me hard again, didn't think I had it in me". She say's "let's go". I say, "What? The 2 hours are up? She says don't worry about it and takes me back to the room to fuck again GFE with rich BBJ to get things lubed up. I thump her in flat doggy while making out with her and cum hard. Wow am I drained. I say goodbye to this goddess and give her 800 (including for her transport). I'm usually against giving extra but this was just too sensational of an experience.

Wednesday Night:

We decide to hit 4 x 4, no bathrobes this time fortunately. There are a few hot women but again mostly it's lame. There is a fine Teanna Trump looking girl in there, tall, same build and face. Wow she is sexy. She wants me to go to the room, but I'm all fucked out. I want to see her dance instead, but The rooms that have stripper poles are all 900+. And 4 x4 has a ridiculous takeout fee of 1200 (NOT including whatever you and the girl decide). She gives me her number and we bounce. I text her that she can come over in the morning if she wants, but I didn't actually think she would go for it. But she wants to come over! 600 plus ubers.

Thursday Morning:

My flight is at 1:30 so it will be a tight operation. Teanna Trump looking 4 x 4 girl comes over at 10:30. We smash, pretty good, nothing that really stood out pro or con. I did enjoy her BBJ. I'm sold on the Brazil BBJ. I fuck her mish / spoon the way I like and finish fast. I arrange the uber so that it drops me at the airport and then her at her place. We have a good chat in the uber, and off to Sao Paulo.

Rio Summary: Gparena surprisingly worked best for me. Very glad I encountered that shortly before the trip. I didn't have time to go to Perola Negra, but honestly, the boate scene is pretty lame in Rio.

See part 2 in the Sao Paulo thread.Great post. I have searched gparena. Couldn't find "LW" would you mind helping me out in the right direction?

Rimeki
10-28-25, 23:29
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HKS11
10-29-25, 11:27
Anyone with boots on the ground have anything to comment regarding yesterday's Police crackdown in Pena and Alemao?

SoberHans69
10-29-25, 11:52
Was sitting in a restaurant in Copacabana last night and they had the news on their TVs. I could see all the fighting between a gang and the police but I didn't realize it was in Rio until later.

Finished my food and headed to Centro, arriving at around 6.30 pm. First stop was Espaco Zen terma (formerly Cancun) and there was only 4 girls there, 3 looked good and 1 had a decent face but too chubby for me. The 3 hot ones were all sitting with customers, so I left and headed for 4 x 4. Entrance there was 50 real and that included my drink.

4 x 4 was really quiet but I met a really cool BM there randomly, who confirmed that all the fighting I saw on the news was in fact in Rio. I'm guessing that suggests why it was so quiet everywhere.

There wasn't many girls there and almost all of them were in the VIP section. The other BM (sorry I forgot to ask your username) started chatting to a really cute, petite girl with a nice ass and she told him that 4 x 4 would be closing at 10 pm due to the fighting nearby.

I don't understand why these guys sit in the VIP section with loads of girls and never seem to go to a room with any of them but it's their money. Annoying when the only girls who want to f*ck are sitting with them though.

Cut my losses and headed back to Copacabana on the metro.

Hopefully I'll have better luck tonight.

Sperto
10-29-25, 13:57
JacobMann made a very good report.

SoberHans69
10-30-25, 11:37
Went to Caribbean Zul in Botafogo last night.

Arrived at 18.15 and as they had just opened, the girls were still getting ready. Soon one girl came down who was petite with a really nice body, but probably mid thirties and not my type. Not long after a really cute, young looking morena came in, called Paty.

She had a really cute face, really nice natural body, spoke some English and looked so hot in her lingerie and suspenders. Took her after 5 minutes talking, so not sure how many other girls arrived and what they looked like.

Had a 40 minute session with her and she was of the usual high standard of the Brasileiras. She was only 21 and had just been working there two days (confirmed by the lady on reception), yet still gave great service. How do all this Brazilian women, even the young ones, just know how to f*ck? Do they teach this instead of maths in school or something?

Entrance fee was 120 and 40 minute session was 300.

SoberHans69
10-31-25, 11:45
Went to 4 x 4 last night and met up with a board member from another forum.

It was quite busy with being Halloween, but quite a few of the better looking girls where just sat in the VIP section the whole time I was there. There was still plenty of hot girls though, of all shapes and skin tone.

The guy I met up with took a really cute morena and said he had a good time. I ended up taking an Arabic looking girl with glasses, who was a bit curvier than I normally go for but really pretty and had a hot librarian look about her.

Had a good session with her.

SoberHans69
10-31-25, 19:39
If anyone has a contact for party favours, please PM me.

Had no luck with asking any of the girls I've taken so far.

Green2025
11-01-25, 20:15
I will arrive in Rio on Monday. Any updates on security after the police operation last week? Is it still safe to visit the termas?

Curtis Andreas
11-01-25, 23:07
If anyone has a contact for party favours, please PM me.

Had no luck with asking any of the girls I've taken so far.Walk on the promenade / sidewalk next to beach in copa, somebody should offer you some every quarter of a mile or so.

SoberHans69
11-02-25, 00:21
Went to Caribbean Zul again tonight.

Got there around 7 pm and there was only 5 girls there but 3 of them were hot, 2 morenas and a mulata. Took the mulata as I hadn't taken one so far this trip and she didn't disappoint. Definitely recommend Caribbean Zul as a cheaper option on a Saturday night. The rooms there are decent too.

Vagabundo1
11-02-25, 04:06
The week in baseball, what a week.

Well, lets see.

Monday, Vagabundo went into a prive and banged a fav for an hour, including 45 minutes of actual fucking for the usual 230 r, but I actually just paid for the hour so 180 r.

Vagabundo looks at sex as Muay Thai Jiu Jitsu cross training, but in fact, Tuesday Muay Thai was canceled this week, as was Thursday's not to mention all university classes.

Detailed discussion of all the fighting has been in my local whatsapp group, so PM me if you would like to be added. I will try to filter out a few of the better comments and links below.

Tuesday, Vagabundo woke up in his Barra beach apartment, and Anne Amari who lives in a zona norte favela reported gunfire as a reason she was not leaving. Pretty normal.

The current fav prive girl on her way to the love shack reported that uber moto boys were not taking her call, so she arrived at 14 h instead of her normal 13 h, which is a bad mark as Vagabundo prizes punctuality as fucking while trading is therapeutic and helps to mitigate market stress, of which there was a lot given MSTR earnings and the whipsaw bitcoin week. News of the megaoperation filtered out. Like 121 killed according to the economist.

But in terms of fucking 100+ solid minutes for a cost per fuck per minute under 5. With dudes dying deaths of despair in the rich world fucking is a good cross functional health indicator, see Attia, Outlive.

The violence was and is kind of shocking. It added to Vagabundo's social isolation, but validated the decision to live in Barra, which you should too. I mean, fuck it, most of you won't you will pig headedly persist in copa, but I am past caring. The smart will spend at least some time in Barra.

Saturday, I repeated with prive girl for a solid 120 minutes of penis in vagina banging in all positions. I asked her to clean, and she was like, you're paying for "transar e gozar" echoing some rap lyric that Rogan quoted to the effect of I got a wet pussy, don't cook, don't clean, etc. We have diary of a ceo healthy porn compilations we chose together, and while fucking she and I narrate various tortures for our honeypot victims, we are practically Mr and Mrs Smith meets Zohan. Do I need to describe various positions for the 1823 consecutive day of this particular trip to Rio, which will persist as long as the BRL USD stays above 4, don't mind the noise.

How exactly did Brazilians treat foreigners during world wars? Wear a vasco shirt and carry on.

Anyway, it is too late and I have fucked too long today to cut and paste all the good data in the zap group here right now but I may later. Just read the Economist. The bottom line is that it is nothing new for Rio, just back to Covid or Olympic era force protection / foreign internal defense guidelines. If you stay in the rich world you will condem yourself to de facto death by masterbation or bad 50 year old pussy at some Asian Massage Parlor with the risk of arrest by some sheriff with nothing better to do than to enforce puritanical pussy prison norms. Come to Rio and get laid, or stay in the rich world and read your marquez while you fantasize about 20 year old Latina, Vagabundo doesn't care about your dick, only you do.

Selah.

TShelby
11-04-25, 19:59
I haven't been to Rio in many years, and I'm planning a trip for next year. By the way, I stayed at the Hotel Transamerica in Barra the Tijuca, which is where many escorts stayed. Are they still there? Or which hotel would you recommend now?

And would you recommend RioZin and Asha Club?

Thanks everyone, I'm back!

Vagabundo1
11-06-25, 03:57
Please send me a PM and I will send you the latest updated Vagabubba guide with some detailed and long sections on where to stay. I was the one among several discussing Transamerica, but there are other places closer to the beach and actually with better amenities including working girls.


I haven't been to Rio in many years, and I'm planning a trip for next year. By the way, I stayed at the Hotel Transamerica in Barra the Tijuca, which is where many escorts stayed. Are they still there? Or which hotel would you recommend now?

And would you recommend RioZin and Asha Club?

Thanks everyone, I'm back!

Vagabundo1
11-07-25, 09:34
With no value judgements about hookers and blow, there are times, like now, when vagabundo speaking just for himself sticks to just hookers and coffee and creatine.

Not to wander too far from your topic, but other mongers, one of whom is a MD, who come here for short term stays use testosterone which I understand shrinks your balls, for which reason Vagabundo sticks to fucking and fighting (muay thai, where sometimes jiu jitsu is offered) and going to the (outdoor at arpoador) gym to pump my nads. Comments welcome. My boxing coach in college was just straight up no alcohol, no smoking, no red meat, no fried food and he was 88 when he was coaching us and he did 30 minutes of sit ups with us. So, that's my paragraph on men's health for the day.

It was good to meet you a few years back at Perola Negra, and Man, I remember that nice morena that you took, I still have some of her pics which I posted on my zap group. Last I heard she was in Euroland, which I guess is a good result for a Brazilian, but Ann Amari also says it increases risk of being trafficked. Speaking of Ann Amari, the real one of which I met in Vegas at AVN, I met some hot haitian lass deep dark negra strolling the beach selling hair styling services sitting on the beach with tacoma101 on praia do pepe, IE, barra, posto 3 the other day. She lives in Mare. So Haitians in Rio. Need to start having her clean naked in my beach pad.

Selah.


If anyone has a contact for party favours, please PM me.

Had no luck with asking any of the girls I've taken so far.

Exoticspirit
11-07-25, 16:00
Do the massage places here in Rio that claim to offer nuru include sex or are they just massage? Of course I'm gauging these services against what we can get in Thailand and Japan wherever they have nuru.

Nounce
11-08-25, 13:09
Do the massage places here in Rio that claim to offer nuru include sex or are they just massage? Of course I'm gauging these services against what we can get in Thailand and Japan wherever they have nuru.This may answer your question.



RJMassagem Part 1 April 9, 2021:
...
I noticed that Nuru was on the menu, but for more money.
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I told her again I wanted to fuck her and she said, "I can't, HERE, darling." I heard the last part clear as a bell,

BennieBen
11-08-25, 18:22
Went to 4 x 4 last night and met up with a board member from another forum.

... quite a few of the better looking girls where just sat in the VIP section the whole time I was there...

Had a good session with her.It suck when it happen, but usually the dudes have to pay drink and throw their money to keep girls around them. Girls who arent drinking and looking for client are not going to give all their attention and tim ein a vip section. But yes if they spend tons of cash on drinks and sex for the cute ones they will stay there as long as the guy want them. Better go with a different girl athen go back later. But I been in 4 x4 recently and I never seen girls staying in a vip section for all night. So if you really want a girls and you don't plan to come back the trick is to fuck your 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th. Favorite untill your #1 become disponnible. Trust me, a girls who want to earn money is going to notice the guy who go upstair 2,3 time more then the one who pay her 1 cup of bubble. They are there to make money and 30 minutes in the cama is a lot more valuable for them them 5 hours of siping bubble with a bunch of instagram broken douche.

Vagabundo1
11-08-25, 19:15
The secret terma, so named by fukafmedig when we did a pussy patrol there in 2020 or 2021, is a lot better in terms of the number of hot young women. 4 x 4 is collecting a lot of hoars who have been there too long.


It suck when it happen, but usually the dudes have to pay drink and throw their money to keep girls around them. Girls who arent drinking and looking for client are not going to give all their attention and tim ein a vip section. But yes if they spend tons of cash on drinks and sex for the cute ones they will stay there as long as the guy want them. Better go with a different girl athen go back later. But I been in 4 x4 recently and I never seen girls staying in a vip section for all night. So if you really want a girls and you don't plan to come back the trick is to fuck your 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th. Favorite untill your #1 become disponnible. Trust me, a girls who want to earn money is going to notice the guy who go upstair 2,3 time more then the one who pay her 1 cup of bubble. They are there to make money and 30 minutes in the cama is a lot more valuable for them them 5 hours of siping bubble with a bunch of instagram broken douche.

Xpartan
11-09-25, 09:01
So if you really want a girls and you don't plan to come back the trick is to fuck your 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th. Favorite untill your #1 become disponnible. Trust meFor some of us it would indeed be a trick to fuck the 2nd and especially the 3rd, not even mentioning the 4th and 5th, LOL.

On a less sad note, GPArena guys call those girl-hoarding assholes who never fuck, Empatas. Or Empatas Fodas when they're not feeling polite.

Chicago85
11-09-25, 16:21
It suck when it happen, but usually the dudes have to pay drink and throw their money to keep girls around them. Girls who arent drinking and looking for client are not going to give all their attention and tim ein a vip section. But yes if they spend tons of cash on drinks and sex for the cute ones they will stay there as long as the guy want them. Better go with a different girl athen go back later. But I been in 4 x4 recently and I never seen girls staying in a vip section for all night. So if you really want a girls and you don't plan to come back the trick is to fuck your 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th. Favorite untill your #1 become disponnible. Trust me, a girls who want to earn money is going to notice the guy who go upstair 2,3 time more then the one who pay her 1 cup of bubble. They are there to make money and 30 minutes in the cama is a lot more valuable for them them 5 hours of siping bubble with a bunch of instagram broken douche.Just go stand or sit near that area and make eye contact. I do that and the girls will often excuse themselves to speak with you.

BennieBen
11-10-25, 21:37
For some of us it would indeed be a trick to fuck the 2nd and especially the 3rd, not even mentioning the 4th and 5th, LOL.

On a less sad note, GPArena guys call those girl-hoarding assholes who never fuck, Empatas. Or Empatas Fodas when they're not feeling polite.Well I was meaning to go with another girl and girls who want to earn money arent going to be very happy to waste their time for a sip of bubble. A few minute ok but the dudes must spend a lot to keep girls around. I doubt the girls like being the stupid who entertain for some bubble while other girls are just standing there and go upstair. You are more valuable for girls when you bring them in the cama then when you pay them a drink.

Xpartan
11-11-25, 05:32
Well I was meaning to go with another girl and girls who want to earn money arent going to be very happy to waste their time for a sip of bubble. You'd think so, but I've seen people hogging girls while drinking nothing but beers, and not just at 4 x 4, but other venues too, like Perola Negra. In fact, I don't care about 4 x4 that much, since there are lots of hoars anyway, but at Perola Negra they literally hoarded all doable women for at least 40 minutes while I was making rounds across the floor. Fortunately, a nice girl showed up, so I grabbed her before she had a chance to sat down.

So it's not even bubbly. Locals don't go there to spend on bubbly or sex.

BennieBen
11-12-25, 02:19
The secret terma, so named by fukafmedig when we did a pussy patrol there in 2020 or 2021, is a lot better in terms of the number of hot young women. 4 x 4 is collecting a lot of hoars who have been there too long.I seached this post and I didn't found it. Same for the user named 'fukafmedig'. Can you share the link to this post please? I am curious to know what it the secret terma you are refering to.

Nounce
11-12-25, 02:49
I seached this post and I didn't found it. Same for the user named 'fukafmedig'. Can you share the link to this post please? I am curious to know what it the secret terma you are refering to.Search for 116, it's across the street from DETRAN. That is another way to search it. It's a rowdy place when it is busy, Great if you like darker girls.

Turgid
11-12-25, 13:45
Well I was meaning to go with another girl and girls who want to earn money arent going to be very happy to waste their time for a sip of bubble. A few minute ok but the dudes must spend a lot to keep girls around. I doubt the girls like being the stupid who entertain for some bubble while other girls are just standing there and go upstair. You are more valuable for girls when you bring them in the cama then when you pay them a drink.Ever since I was a newbie over 50 years ago I could not understand why guys go to brothels and spend a long time chatting with girls. When I go and I see a girl I like I talk to her and it takes me no more than five minutes to know whether I want to go with her or not and off I am to the room. I don't go to a brothel to talk or drink I go to fuck. If I want to talk and drink there are other places I'd go to.

Curtis Andreas
11-12-25, 14:08
Ever since I was a newbie over 50 years ago I could not understand why guys go to brothels and spend a long time chatting with girls. When I go and I see a girl I like I talk to her and it takes me no more than five minutes to know whether I want to go with her or not and off I am to the room. I don't go to a brothel to talk or drink I go to fuck. If I want to talk and drink there are other places I'd go to.Because you want to sus out the vibe. Some girls come on really strong and tell you it's going to be a crazy experience and try to get your riled up and go upstairs immediately. Then in the room all that energy dissipates and the experience is just meh and awkward. So, you stick it out a while and try to see if that energy is just part of the sales pitch or her natural disposition, and also ask her some questions about what she likes to and is willing to do. 9/10 when I chose to go to the room with a new girl in 5 minutes, I have always been disappointed.

Curtis Andreas
11-12-25, 14:10
Search for 116, it's across the street from DETRAN. That is another way to search it. It's a rowdy place when it is busy, Great if you like darker girls.I tried searching it for it online, there is no registered business. It seems like a store for sale. Does it have an actual name or do you just go to the street address? When you say darker girls, do you also mean mulattas?

Sperto
11-12-25, 14:22
Another gringo was a victim of "boa noite, Cinderela". The Canadian tourist went to a bar in Ipanema. He accepted a beer from the guys and got doped. They ended up in his apartment. He woke up two days later. He had lost his money (value of 16000 reais), his phone and also had his biometric data altered. Furthermore he also got raped.

https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2025/11/11/canadense-denuncia-boa-noite-cinderela-experiencia-mais-traumatica-da-minha-vida.ghtml

Exoticspirit
11-12-25, 16:47
I'm currently looking at accommodations for an April trip and targeting the Ipanema / Leblon area plus maybe the border area between Ipanema and Copa since those are suppose to be safe areas. I know that the closer we get to the beach, the safer it is so my question for now is just how far inland should I place a limit -- is 3-4 blocks inland from the beach too deep towards sketchy areas?

Since my first trip will likely be just a tour of the main termas plus maybe 1-2 clinicas / prives, I don't really need a guest friendly hotel or Airbnb unless I need to invite one of the girls I like from these outlets back to my room on a Sunday since everything is closed.

Another question is regarding flight arrivals as I noticed that both Copa and Avianca have late arrivals into Rio at around 12:30 am. Is this hour going to be an issue getting Ubers from the airport that late at night? I realize that late check in to Airbnbs might be an issue but hotels should be okay.

Mr Enternational
11-12-25, 17:55
I'm currently looking at accommodations for an April trip and targeting the Ipanema / Leblon area plus maybe the border area between Ipanema and Copa since those are suppose to be safe areas. I know that the closer we get to the beach, the safer it is so my question for now is just how far inland should I place a limit -- is 3-4 blocks inland from the beach too deep towards sketchy areas?It is Rio; all areas are sketchy!


I noticed that both Copa and Avianca have late arrivals into Rio at around 12:30 am. Is this hour going to be an issue getting Ubers from the airport that late at night? That is actually probably the best time to get a ride share. There should not be any traffic out, so you should be able to get where you are going without delay.

Combo
11-13-25, 00:53
Another gringo was a victim of "boa noite, Cinderela". The Canadian tourist went to a bar in Ipanema. He accepted a beer from the guys and got doped. They ended up in his apartment. He woke up two days later. He had lost his money (value of 16000 reais), his phone and also had his biometric data altered. Furthermore he also got raped.

https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2025/11/11/canadense-denuncia-boa-noite-cinderela-experiencia-mais-traumatica-da-minha-vida.ghtmlThe last sentence not a minor detail.

Agpov
11-13-25, 01:28
The last sentence not a minor detail.At least he lived, which is nice.

I wonder if the fatalities are based on just applying an extra-strong dose to be better safe than sorry, or due to unreliable drug-purity, like with ordinary voluntary-use overdoses.

It's always good to remember to watch one's step, even in Paradise.

BennieBen
11-13-25, 02:54
The last sentence not a minor detail.Its how brazilians are stealing biodata?

Jimmy Boy 99
11-13-25, 04:52
I tried searching it for it online, there is no registered business. It seems like a store for sale. Does it have an actual name or do you just go to the street address? When you say darker girls, do you also mean mulattas?Club 116.

116 Rua de de Conceicao.

Centro.

Around the corner from.

Boate Clube 202.

202 Rua Teofilo Otoni.

Also club 114 next to Club 116.

All 3 mostly local customers and mostly unattractive women.

Xpartan
11-13-25, 07:34
Another gringo was a victim of "boa noite, Cinderela". The Canadian tourist went to a bar in Ipanema. He accepted a beer from the guys and got doped. They ended up in his apartment. He woke up two days later. He had lost his money (value of 16000 reais), his phone and also had his biometric data altered. Furthermore he also got raped.

https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/2025/11/11/canadense-denuncia-boa-noite-cinderela-experiencia-mais-traumatica-da-minha-vida.ghtmlIt's interesting that the report says he was incapacitated while in his apartment. If this is accurate, he most likely picked up two gay men and brought them over on his own volition.

Which is yet another reminder not to bring two GDPs you meet for the first time back to your room. Gender is irrelevant here.

Xpartan
11-13-25, 07:49
I'm currently looking at accommodations for an April trip and targeting the Ipanema / Leblon area plus maybe the border area between Ipanema and Copa since those are suppose to be safe areas. I know that the closer we get to the beach, the safer it is so my question for now is just how far inland should I place a limit -- is 3-4 blocks inland from the beach too deep towards sketchy areas?

Since my first trip will likely be just a tour of the main termas plus maybe 1-2 clinicas / prives, I don't really need a guest friendly hotel or Airbnb unless I need to invite one of the girls I like from these outlets back to my room on a Sunday since everything is closed.

Another question is regarding flight arrivals as I noticed that both Copa and Avianca have late arrivals into Rio at around 12:30 am. Is this hour going to be an issue getting Ubers from the airport that late at night? I realize that late check in to Airbnbs might be an issue but hotels should be okay.First trip, and you're going to stay in Leblon? I don't know if that's wise. Every terma will be a trip. Safety wise, it's generally safe and classy, lots of nice restaurants, although favela Vidigal is there too, right across from Sheraton Grand. Not a problem during the day, though. I would stay in Ipanema on the border of Aproador. Reasonably safe and closer to all spots than Leblon.

On a late arrival in Rio, I'd go with the official taxi stand. No data points to support this, but again, if safety is a concern, that would feel safer to me.

Mr Enternational
11-13-25, 14:38
Its how brazilians are stealing biodata?LOL. He said the fingerprint and facial recognition security on his cellphone was changed to a person's who was not him.

Turgid
11-13-25, 16:36
Because you want to sus out the vibe. Some girls come on really strong and tell you it's going to be a crazy experience and try to get your riled up and go upstairs immediately. Then in the room all that energy dissipates and the experience is just meh and awkward. So, you stick it out a while and try to see if that energy is just part of the sales pitch or her natural disposition, and also ask her some questions about what she likes to and is willing to do. 9/10 when I chose to go to the room with a new girl in 5 minutes, I have always been disappointed.I cannot recall ever going to the room with a girl who comes on strong. Many times I go to a brothel and have to linger before I find someone I want, sometimes I wait for hours but once I zoom in on a girl I like who's free I go and talk to her. Within 5 minutes I either ditch her or choose her and the majority of times I'm not disappointed, more important than what she says is her body language, her response when I touch her or kiss her, the chemistry between us.

BennieBen
11-14-25, 03:35
I cannot recall ever going to the room with a girl who comes on strong. Many times I go to a brothel and have to linger before I find someone I want, sometimes I wait for hours but once I zoom in on a girl I like who's free I go and talk to her. Within 5 minutes I either ditch her or choose her and the majority of times I'm not disappointed, more important than what she says is her body language, her response when I touch her or kiss her, the chemistry between us.Never go with the arrassing girls who are pushing you. Its rarely a good move. Its a brothel, people doesn't understant taht they can say 'no thanks' to a lady.

Curtis Andreas
11-15-25, 00:47
https://www.xvideos.red/video.uluhhmdfe31/we_fucked_at_the_clube_202_nightclub_in_front_of_the_customers_rua_teofilo_otoni_n_202_center_of_rio

Have a look and judge for yourself. Some of us prefer the Karina mello types, in fact, a certain diplomat from the eurozone was looking for just that type, and he like many of us can afford any of the clubs. But the trick again is the local girls, the best local girls prefer to work at those local clubs.

More broadly, here is the general rule: the top tier porn stars that you see on brad Montana all started at the prives in centro. Go down the list of bradmontana stars, or mambo perv stars, and you can find them at centro prive / trash casa local prices.I was going to try and session with Karina Mello, but I think she's pregnant now. If anybody has info on Heloa Green, Jenny Pretinha, India do Sol or Agatha Santos let me know! About 116, you don't get any negative vibes from the locals? I speak a little Portuguese, but clearly look like a gringo. Is there a specific time you go and leave before, just to be safe? I go to 4 x4 all the time and feel perfectly safe. But generally my uber drops and picks me up right in front of it.

Vagabundo1
11-15-25, 11:13
You definitely get a negative vibe from the locals, not to mention second hand smoke, which is why vagabundo goes with good wing men, and not all board members are good wingmen, in fact, most are not for the secret terma.

In fact, it would have been better to keep it secret for several reasons.

First, the problem with this board and these groups is lurkers who don't contribute.

Second, there is a safety issue in many respects. Actually, I was assaulted unsuccessfully for my cell phone outside of one of these dark side trash casas but the phone was on a cord to my belt, a vertex socp belt. I had a muay Thai shirt on, and after the tall athletic assaulter failed, he did not continue his attack, perhaps the muay Thai shirt and my being in some kind of shape deterred him, it was all over in seconds and I did not have a conversation. There was also a car waiting for him behind me. I retreated into the sevilha hotel, calmed down, and called an uber back to my apartment in recreio. So. Beware, bewarned. At the time of the attack, I was with a girl from 114 who both I and another ISG board member considered very attractive, and I think she was working with the thieves. Fucking gringos is a business in Brazil. It is legal in the prostitution sense. Are local cops going to help you? Probably not very much. Can your wingman help you? If he is too old and is mostly good for cyber, maybe not. If he doesn't stay at a club while you session, no he is not. If he doesn't have a local chip in his phone so he can call the local cops who will respond to an emergency call, no, he is not. If he insists you, vagabundo, are his security and ignores the fact that the security guy at the zona norte sex party is missing an eye, no, your wingman is not good security. On the other hand if your wingman is in good shape, served in your country's military, and you agree on security protocols, then yes, he might be a good wingman. Vagabundo is looking for a few good wingman, to coin a phrase.

Anyway, vagabundo had a regular prive girl over yesterday for 4 hours for 450 r with an actual 65 minutes of fucking, we ate salmon air fried with a nice lemon saute.

But local atmospherics are trending towards more anti gringo.

Some travelers like Portuguese think that they blend in better only due to the language, but they are as clueless or more clueless as they don't really get the culture which is not civilized.

That said PM me for deets on heloa.


I was going to try and session with Karina Mello, but I think she's pregnant now. If anybody has info on Heloa Green, Jenny Pretinha, India do Sol or Agatha Santos let me know! About 116, you don't get any negative vibes from the locals? I speak a little Portuguese, but clearly look like a gringo. Is there a specific time you go and leave before, just to be safe? I go to 4 x4 all the time and feel perfectly safe. But generally my uber drops and picks me up right in front of it.

Derdeered
11-17-25, 06:15
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro/maracana/tenho-21-aninhos-sou-magrinha-e-bem-safada-vao-adorar-id-86c9d

Is this really her?

Also I just saw your PM I will reply when I arrive. If this is not her could you please pm me the info or at least one person you trust to give me a good experience. I would love to experience this myself.

BennieBen
11-18-25, 02:37
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro/maracana/tenho-21-aninhos-sou-magrinha-e-bem-safada-vao-adorar-id-86c9d

Is this really her?

Also I just saw your PM I will reply when I arrive. If this is not her could you please pm me the info or at least one person you trust to give me a good experience. I would love to experience this myself.Ask for a video call with her because most of time its:

No.

Or Its a prive with lots of girls and this one 'isn't avaible ATM' or 'not working today'.

Or Yes! . But 20 years ago and she is now mom of 5 kids who totatly wasted her body or she's ruined by alcohol / drug addiction or now high on steroid and hormon plan every day and post pictures of her hairy legs and 3 inch clitoris on the web.

Seriously, I guessed a few incall on this website like 6-7 time and I walked out of the place each time.

Use website like gparena if you are limited on time. Sadly I never seen any of the top bimbo of this website on gparena. I presume they are fake or people just don't share when they find a gem.

Elario
11-18-25, 05:18
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro/maracana/tenho-21-aninhos-sou-magrinha-e-bem-safada-vao-adorar-id-86c9d

Is this really her?

Also I just saw your PM I will reply when I arrive. If this is not her could you please pm me the info or at least one person you trust to give me a good experience. I would love to experience this myself.Yup that's her ad I was in Rio 2 weeks ago and went and saw Heloa. You won't be disappointed. She is all that and a lot of fun. Killer body exactly as in the pic in the ad. She has a place over by the Maracana stadium she works out of. She let me snap this pic. Enjoy gents!

Turgid
11-18-25, 15:08
......Second, there is a safety issue in many respects. Actually, I was assaulted unsuccessfully for my cell phone outside of one of these dark side trash casas but the phone was on a cord to my belt, a vertex socp belt. I had a muay Thai shirt on, and after the tall athletic assaulter failed, he did not continue his attack, perhaps the muay Thai shirt and my being in some kind of shape deterred him.......Fortunately being younger than 60 would also deter him, if you were in your sixties or older he may have continued.

Derdeered
11-19-25, 09:10
I will hit Rio tomorrow and I think I will do a terma, spa, website, and one suggested female from you guys. You can reply here or PM me. Thanks for your suggestions in advance and I will report back.

Vagabundo1
11-19-25, 14:37
Indeed, it would be good to get more of your reports on the girls you saw here, some of whom were similar to Heloa! With just 3 reports, you are clearly holding out on us.

The downside for Vagabundo is Heloa would only do covered. If you do meet her, leave the location you are going to with a trusted contact for security as these porn stars are quasi or outright criminals and surrounded by the same so the risks of assault are high. That has happened to vagabundo, ie, you step into the incall room on barato ribeiro, and there is a dude in the room, and he assaults you and demands money, chases you back onto the street with a knife. 10-20% risk, and if you are just here for weeks maybe acceptable, but over the long run, mitigate as many of those risks as possible. Hotel is generally good, but even in a hotel you are in their country and they know how to use lawfare to their advantage.

I know and helped Mambo Perv when he first got to rio, who is on this board under another name, which I guess I will not disclose for general purposes, who first shot her. Given that she is like double anal penetrated bareback on camera, just getting one covered dick is like easy work. The real local rio vibe is to be had by going out to Classico Beach Club Grumari which is located at Praia Abrico, the nude beach where heloa Green and many, many porn stars shoot. It is mainly a gay beach so be warned, but 10-20% are hetero couples, and they can be picked up for swing sessions, which Vagabundo and Monique have done over the years. There is a swing night at Paris Cafe in Recreio on Saturdays, which Vagabundo did with Nina Deponca and a board member who went there and got a hourly Paris girl who we all fucked and sucked while Nina DePonca sucked off everyone, and then later that same super hot Paris girl returned to the swing pool fucking another client while I fucked Nina Deponca for the 3 d time that night, the whisky not withstanding. Heloa lives out in Recreio with her ahem, how is this term even applicable, ah, husband. As so many porno and sex worker stars, not to mention the Gracie Jiu Jitsu family, just walk directly from Casuarina / Na Brasa Columbia at Posto 10, where there is a street walker scene from p9-11 to Paris Cafe on av das Americas, and you will walk right past the home of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, where Vagabundo went to a Gracie family party with another board member. Actually, great property values there now if you buy and the Metro line gets built out to Recreio. Papatinho the rapper lives out there in some kind of surf apartment. Fukafmedig who is a rapper producer of some sort goes out there to produce music with Papa t. The best surf is in Praia Macumba because of the Pontal formation which protects from currents. Some of the best hikes are there, to include Mirante do Caete at prainha, and by far, the hottest actual non pro college girls live out there and show off their asses which are now in the real Paris for advanced degrees, pedaling out on the road to Prainha.

I mean, your cost per fuck per minute with Heloa is going to be like 40 r or 30 r per minute of covered sex, compared to 5 r or less of bare banging with a centro prive girl after some good patrolling. But when you're back in pussy prison you can stroke to her videos and try to get her to talk to you on zap maybe and there will be that.

"established' porn stars like Yasmin Mineira or elisa Sanches are asking like 1500 r+, but vagabundo and others fucked them for 200 r in Motel Malaga, which, by the way is a good location to suggest to meet, as it is close to Vila Mimosa / Maracana / Feira Sao Cristavao.

You can get tested for all STDs FOR FREE, and get PReP, for FREE, at UPA, in Botafogo at Voluntarios dos Patria 136 which Vagbundo did yesterday. Play Safe.


Yup that's her ad I was in Rio 2 weeks ago and went and saw Heloa. You won't be disappointed. She is all that and a lot of fun. Killer body exactly as in the pic in the ad. She has a place over by the Maracana stadium she works out of. She let me snap this pic. Enjoy gents!

Vagabundo1
11-19-25, 23:11
Way back in 2021 I was banging callsign belladonna, a 4 x4 girl for about 9. 5 weeks, like 500 r pernoite bareback for an 18 year old top tier 4 x4 stripper and dancer, she would dance right next to mofuggin Penelope from minas gerais and I knew I wanted to bareback ride that kunt.

Anyway, bella donna was also fuckng a 72 year old Gracie fighter family member who also smoked ganja and still trained jiu jitsu, and needless to say as a Gracie commanded respect on the Brazilian street due to his network.

So.

There is that.

In the usa, my sense is that the feminazi leftist whack jobs have more or less cut the testicles off of any man who dares to be like fuggin normal.

Which is why -- rio de janeiro, one and done.


Fortunately being younger than 60 would also deter him, if you were in your sixties or older he may have continued.

Vagabundo1
11-19-25, 23:21
Callsign bella donna. Raika. From 4 x4. Anyone remember her?

Vagabundo1
11-20-25, 10:37
Also there are members of our Whatsapp group for Rio and SP who are older than 70.

But like a hunter gatherer group or company or football team seal team once you are in the team mates give mutual security not just physical fighting.


Way back in 2021 I was banging callsign belladonna, a 4 x4 girl for about 9. 5 weeks, like 500 r pernoite bareback for an 18 year old top tier 4 x4 stripper and dancer, she would dance right next to mofuggin Penelope from minas gerais and I knew I wanted to bareback ride that kunt.

Anyway, bella donna was also fuckng a 72 year old Gracie fighter family member who also smoked ganja and still trained jiu jitsu, and needless to say as a Gracie commanded respect on the Brazilian street due to his network..

Curtis Andreas
11-20-25, 14:32
Way back in 2021 I was banging callsign belladonna, a 4 x4 girl for about 9. 5 weeks, like 500 r pernoite bareback for an 18 year old top tier 4 x4 stripper and dancer, she would dance right next to mofuggin Penelope from minas gerais and I knew I wanted to bareback ride that kunt.

Anyway, bella donna was also fuckng a 72 year old Gracie fighter family member who also smoked ganja and still trained jiu jitsu, and needless to say as a Gracie commanded respect on the Brazilian street due to his network..Stories like this makes me wish I discovered Brazil earlier, I was paying 600 reais for a couple of hours with a 4 x 4 that looked like her, no BBFS, just CIM.

Agpov
11-20-25, 22:12
See. Her other frequent doubles partner stabbed me in a niteroi airbnb until I paid her the same as Nina nacci the first, so again, be ware. Just in the arm though. These girls know how to use knives. So. There is that. Might want to make sure that the only kitchen knives available are dull.

E. Nia nacci 3, 18, who I also barebacked as did my ISG friends, is the one who lured me into the unsuccessful cell phone theft..
If you do meet her, leave the location you are going to with a trusted contact for security as these porn stars are quasi or outright criminals and surrounded by the same so the risks of assault are high. That has happened to vagabundo, ie, you step into the incall room on barato ribeiro, and there is a dude in the room, and he assaults you and demands money, chases you back onto the street with a knife. 10-20% riskNever been stabbed IN one of the major / established venues, like Whiskeria 4 x 4, Termas Monte Carlo, Solarium, etc, I assume!

But.

Did you ever get harmed or threatened by a girl you contacted and subsequently out-called from one of the big venues?


You can get tested for all STDs FOR FREE, and get PReP, for FREE, at UPA, in Botafogo at Voluntarios dos Patria 136 which Vagbundo did yesterday. Play Safe.
What do they call PREP in Brazilian Portuguese?

Vagabundo1
11-21-25, 05:04
Tenofifir, or tenofiver.

Google " generic prep" and it will come up.

It is late, and I have had a long day of swimming, boxing, lifting, and having a genuinely great time with friends at insta / at surfinnrio.

Keep on me to detail the whole UPA process to get tested and free PReP.

As for the other questions, I am thinking of how to answer that. I mean, not really, but.


What do they call PREP in Brazilian Portuguese?

Vagabundo1
11-22-25, 06:14
Not only did Belladonna do pernoite, she did pernatal if that is a thing.

I attach a pic of her in a love motel in sepetiba where she took me for Christmas with her family. I paid for some groceries, like 800 r for which I was santa to a house full of kids, after which she took me to a love motel, all the while hitting on the fucking uber driver, but she gave me her bare unt for Christmas, which was nice.

Not only that, she brought 3 of her 4 x4 hoar dancer friends over for like a reverse gangabang pernoite at the old hotel California, ie, mediterraneo, before I got kicked out for fucking on the balcony.

I snuck in the 4 asses through the fire entrance the lifeguard told me to use, and we totally dominated the pool with the 4 4 x4 asses, and I took gopro scuba pics of their asses, especially bella donna, who may not have stabbed me, but she gave me exactly nine and a half weeks of bare teen kunt.


Stories like this makes me wish I discovered Brazil earlier, I was paying 600 reais for a couple of hours with a 4 x 4 that looked like her, no BBFS, just CIM.

Vagabundo1
11-22-25, 15:46
I think you're trying to find a pattern of the higher price places being safer. But I don't agree.

First, the sex is worse, and the major problem with the rich world is deaths of despair. So, if you get 'fucked' out of your well earned dollars by 15 minutes for a shower, only covered sex, checking tests for 10 minutes so an hour is actually like 10 minutes of covered sex then is that really safer? I mean, that is Monte Carlo, Solarium, 4 x4 sometimes, etc. The local girls sit around and strategize about this script like topic #1.

All the tier 1 girls go to Mosaico, and outside of Mosaico is VM, it is the same place, and that is the only place I have had a gun pulled on me -- by security to warn about taking pictures.

I was going to say that prives are safe, but outside of one I had a knife pulled on me -- again for taking pictures. The guy pulled some long kitchen knife, not really good for fighting. I pulled, but did not unfold, a SOG Seal Trident folding knife with a lanyard which I had my hand on in my pocket. This was near Uruguiana. I backpedalled in a boxing stance, down one street, down another street. The locals pulled the aggressor off of me, and actually the girl, who I was calling callsign midori in 2023 or so, pulled him off too. I eventually just got back onto Rio Branco. This was the same area that someone described a girl getting shot by a jealous client.

I was attacked by like 10 guys outside of a prive at Metro Sans Pena, that was 12 years ago. Eventually, they got me down, and stole the phone on which I was recording the incident. The video auto backed up to google photos and I still have it. So again, don't take video or pictures without authorization. Pretty simple.

This is a dangerous hobby. Fighting Fucking and Football -- Brazilian culture in summary. If you're older or not in fighting training, make friends with wingmen with some of those characteristics. If you want friends, be a a friend. Etc.


Never been stabbed IN one of the major / established venues, like Whiskeria 4 x 4, Termas Monte Carlo, Solarium, etc, I assume!

But.

Did you ever get harmed or threatened by a girl you contacted and subsequently out-called from one of the big venues?

What do they call PREP in Brazilian Portuguese?

BennieBen
11-22-25, 20:11
I think you're trying to find a pattern of the higher price places being safer. But I don't agree.

First, the sex is worse, and the major problem with the rich world is deaths of despair. So, if you get 'fucked' out of your well earned dollars by 15 minutes for a shower, only covered sex, checking tests for 10 minutes so an hour is actually like 10 minutes of covered sex then is that really safer? I mean, that is Monte Carlo, Solarium, 4 x4 sometimes, etc. The local girls sit around and strategize about this script like topic #1.

All the tier 1 girls go to Mosaico, and outside of Mosaico is VM, it is the same place, and that is the only place I have had a gun pulled on me -- by security to warn about taking pictures.

I was going to say that prives are safe, but outside of one I had a knife pulled on me -- again for taking pictures. The guy pulled some long kitchen knife, not really good for fighting. I pulled, but did not unfold, a SOG Seal Trident folding knife with a lanyard which I had my hand on in my pocket. This was near Uruguiana. I backpedalled in a boxing stance, down one street, down another street. The locals pulled the aggressor off of me, and actually the girl, who I was calling callsign midori in 2023 or so, pulled him off too. I eventually just got back onto Rio Branco. This was the same area that someone described a girl getting shot by a jealous client.

I was attacked by like 10 guys outside of a prive at Metro Sans Pena, that was 12 years ago. Eventually, they got me down, and stole the phone on which I was recording the incident. The video auto backed up to google photos and I still have it. So again, don't take video or pictures without authorization. Pretty simple.

This is a dangerous hobby. Fighting Fucking and Football -- Brazilian culture in summary. If you're older or not in fighting training, make friends with wingmen with some of those characteristics. If you want friends, be a a friend. Etc.Cmon share this video of the fight.

Vagabundo1
11-22-25, 21:35
See attached for what my Muay Thai teammates are paying to watch.

My actual video would be a risk as the personnel still work in the biz.

Selah.


Cmon share this video of the fight.

Agpov
11-22-25, 22:07
I think you're trying to find a pattern of the higher price places being safer. But I don't agree.

First, the sex is worse, and the major problem with the rich world is deaths of despair. So, if you get 'fucked' out of your well earned dollars by 15 minutes for a shower, only covered sex, checking tests for 10 minutes so an hour is actually like 10 minutes of covered sex then is that really safer? I mean, that is Monte Carlo, Solarium, 4 x4 sometimes, etc. The local girls sit around and strategize about this script like topic #1.

All the tier 1 girls go to Mosaico, and outside of Mosaico is VM, it is the same place, and that is the only place I have had a gun pulled on me -- by security to warn about taking pictures..I mean.

None of those stories are the girls from those termas stabbing you or pulling a knife on you or threatening you, so it's just a reminder not to take pictures.

So. I think I actually got my answer, unless you do have a story of one of 'them doing that!

The 10-man incident was just a robbery I guess? I second the request to see the video LOL.

Anyway, I am not aware of Mosaico or "VM", I'll look into those.

Tier 1 maybe, but they can't possibly give as low return-on-investment as a Scandallo, and anyway I'm primarily interested in daytime action not something that is nightclub-specific.

Vagabundo1
11-23-25, 05:32
If you or anyone really wants to see the video, then have a coffee with me and I will show it to you on a device in person in Rio. Maybe. Actually, I don't really like looking it over. Why would I? For entertainment, may I suggest -.

https://www.evolvedfights.com/

Run by a cool woman I met up at AVN in Vegas, if that kind of thing pumps your nads so you can get some dopamine wherever you are.

The girl who stabbed me in the arm was a prive girl, and she was jealous of another girl, Nia Nacci 1, whose tits are previously pictured, because I paid that other girl more. The talent goes back and forth from all the tier 1 termas, and websites, so maybe it is better to avoid trying to get girls out of the top termas for pernoites bareback for 500 r. But my method is just to get as many numbers as possible at the top termas, and then make them all the same offer -- 500 r pernoite bare, and like 20% will accept. After 25 pernoites bare with a belladonna, I am looking for new pussy anyway, and I am sick of her saying I will have your kid if you buy a house next to my father's out in Saquerema for $20,000 USD, but there it is, your chance to have some Ben Franklin legacy with a 18 year old with a nice ass in Rio.

I don't know why there is so much interest in the details of all this. I am probably on fucking girl 1000 or 1500 in Rio, so, realize that these are like less than 1%, but it does happen. So mitigate the risks.

Have a plan for violence in your apartment. Like -- start taking video, call security. Easier said than done, but have the plan. Practice it.


I mean.

None of those stories are the girls from those termas stabbing you or pulling a knife on you or threatening you, so it's just a reminder not to take pictures.

So. I think I actually got my answer, unless you do have a story of one of 'them doing that!

The 10-man incident was just a robbery I guess? I second the request to see the video LOL.

Anyway, I am not aware of Mosaico or "VM", I'll look into those.

Tier 1 maybe, but they can't possibly give as low return-on-investment as a Scandallo, and anyway I'm primarily interested in daytime action not something that is nightclub-specific.

Xpartan
11-23-25, 09:11
I think I can understand Senor Vagabondo's safety concerns, if not outright obsession. It is a violent city and if you live there 365, the odds are you will become a victim of crime at one point in your life. Can't beat the math. But the rest of us are short-term visitors. In over 20 years, a taxi and bird-shit scams (twice in one trip if you can believe that) have been the worst things that happened to me there. Does it mean I've been lucky so far? Maybe, but I also tend not to walk around drunk, wear jewelry, or bring home women who (even slightly) rub me the wrong way. I don't carry more than 200 reais on me unless I need money for hobbying, and when I do I take Uber everywhere.

That said, if I do stumble upon a mugging crew, I'm not going to fight and resist. They can have my $40 and my 2016 Pixel 3 A that doesn't have any apps they could use to steal my money. At least, that's the plan, and I believe a good one. Seriously, Rio is not a war zone, unless you make it about fighting.

One thing Senor Vagabundo is right about is that safety is in numbers. Lowlifes won't target a group of 3-5 sober people. That alone will make your Rio travels much safer. No knives, guns, or Bombeiro shirts are needed, IMHO.

And this would be a good time to mention that I've also been fortunate to be helped and warned countless times by the locals. Cariocas you see and interact with on the streets are not out there to get you.

Vagabundo1
11-23-25, 12:27
See attached. That is the med that they give you at the public health.

Just ask for generic PREP.

Tenofovir.

Free.


Never been stabbed IN one of the major / established venues, like Whiskeria 4 x 4, Termas Monte Carlo, Solarium, etc, I assume!

But.

Did you ever get harmed or threatened by a girl you contacted and subsequently out-called from one of the big venues?

What do they call PREP in Brazilian Portuguese?

Vagabundo1
11-24-25, 02:26
Thanks it means a lot to be understood.

We are all sensitive people.

Not.

Fuck, I was out at fucking motherfucking surfinnrio lonboardparadise at av tapajos 616 in recreio.

Man what a great vibe.

So many hot girls.

Germans o my fucking moma moma. Smart. Hot.

Norweijan women, built like nordic sculptures, working out next to the heavy bag I hang, god I want to breed them all.

And mother fuckng women from the Netherlands, all next to Brazilians.

I totally blew off ann amari, sitting out in favela jacaraziho trying to tell me, oh, you can come visit.

Yeah right.

She wants me to take her to a hotel with hidro again so she can look at my phone and ask about my pics with bella donna and play her music, always her fucking music, some of which I like, like maria gadu.

But there are cheaper better cost per fuck per minute to be had.


I think I can understand Senor Vagabondo's safety concerns, if not outright obsession. It is a violent city and if you live there 365, the odds are you will become a victim of crime at one point in your life. Can't beat the math. But the rest of us are short-term visitors. In over 20 years, a taxi and bird-shit scams (twice in one trip if you can believe that) have been the worst things that happened to me there. Does it mean I've been lucky so far? Maybe, but I also tend not to walk around drunk, wear jewelry, or bring home women who (even slightly) rub me the wrong way. I don't carry more than 200 reais on me unless I need money for hobbying, and when I do I take Uber everywhere..

BennieBen
11-24-25, 15:55
See attached. That is the med that they give you at the public health.

Just ask for generic PREP.

Tenofovir.

Free.Things like this can be hard on liver. Don't abuse them and avoid alcohol.

Agpov
11-24-25, 21:17
Things like this can be hard on liver. Don't abuse them and avoid alcohol.Upon doing a little googling, it can be hard on kidneys too apparently.

But as long as you are not one of the people who suffers the grave misfortune of having serious side-effects, it's infinitely preferable to catching fuckin' Aids.

I consider it to be my deep good fortune that I have no use for ingested alcohol, nor any need for other medication in general besides vitamins etc.

Agpov
11-24-25, 21:24
See attached. That is the med that they give you at the public health.

Just ask for generic PREP..Thank you kindly!

I looked up Mosaico and seems like it opens late only, so that's not a matter of interest for me.

I didn't find "VM" but I think the places I already know of may well be okay.

Vagabundo1
11-24-25, 22:10
Vagabundo fucked ann amari at motel lips for 300 r plus uber plus 130 r for hair at a place near uruguiana 19.

Now having dinner with jimmyboy at cais do oriente.

He has been doing our fav prive girls, and he says that maybe they don't want to come over to vagabundo's sex shack because I fuck too much. He, 117, fucks them for 30 minutes due to his 10,000 steps a day.

He didn't like the loud noise at the secret terma.

So,

We are eating at cais do oriente.

I tell him he should have 18 sons with our favorite prive girl.

His roman family lost a war to mine long ago.

I am too gracious.


Things like this can be hard on liver. Don't abuse them and avoid alcohol.

Vagabundo1
11-24-25, 23:30
Yes, avoid alcohol.

I have been having just one beer, a brahma chopp to go to sleep. Ok?


Things like this can be hard on liver. Don't abuse them and avoid alcohol.