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i mentioned the same fact about two years ago that the same helpee skanks were the same ones working in mimosa, some centro massage parlors and even the real-a-minute locations. i was always intrigued why would folk pay out of their noses for these gdp's, but some of the assertions you mentioned made sense. people just don't have the balls in many instances of going out of their comfort zones. to me, it just made absolutely no sense to pay br 500 to a chick that does the same job for br 26, br 15 or even br 10.
that's why i was really happy that the powers that be closed the place down. it restored some sanity into the pay for play game.
yes brother luk. they always have. and many of us have said this repeatedly in the forum for the last few years. now i'm not saying that all and every of them were. i'm not even saying 50%. but a good number of those that you find at vm for r$26 and ba85 for r$20 (r$15 on the second floor!) are the same ones who went to help later on at night and wanted r$400. i have witnessed this many occasions. and i'm sure many rio regulars who get out of copacabana and don't confine their mongering to top-tier termas can attest to it as well.
sometimes i saw them at help first and saw them a different time at their el cheapo spot, and sometimes i saw them at the el cheapo spot first and saw them at help on another time. the only difference, and what most guys insist on, is the setting. some people would rather pay a premium for ambiance since they have traveled half way around the world, while there are others who don't mind fucking in the back seat of a rusted out 1968 vw bug sitting on cinder blocks in an undisclosed location.
what you have to remember is that around rio and sao paulo beautiful women are a-dime-a-dozen (plentiful). one who you think is a beauty queen is just an average run of the mill sally sue to most other brazilians. i remember when i was a newbie my question was always, "how do they choose the models?" in that country. to this day i still don't know the answer. but i do know that hair, make-up, and clothes work wonders!
i mentioned the same fact about two years ago that the same helpee skanks were the same ones working in mimosa, some centro massage parlors and even the real-a-minute locations. i was always intrigued why would folk pay out of their noses for these gdp's, but some of the assertions you mentioned made sense. people just don't have the balls in many instances of going out of their comfort zones. to me, it just made absolutely no sense to pay br 500 to a chick that does the same job for br 26, br 15 or even br 10.
that's why i was really happy that the powers that be closed the place down. it restored some sanity into the pay for play game.
very true. it took me a couple of visits to brasil to venture out of my comfort zone. it takes some people forever, expecially when they travel with people equally insulated. occasionally i will be in the mood to pay 10 times as much just for fancy sheets, but not often. the best thing about help was when you had the second dance floor with brazilian dancing and girls would occasionally be themselves. the thing that help and mimosa had in common (apart from some of the girls) is that in both places the girls would often just enjoy themselves in between work. i quite like that. but not when it switches to anything with more than one zero after it. ;)
I went to 4x4, it was the first time for me.
During half an hour I did watch the girls, 4 or 5 talked to me, nicely and not too much pushing.
Then I picked up Madona, because she made me feel she would work hard to satisfy me.
In fact, this girl did squeeze my dick into her **** up to a level I have never ever seen before. She made me come just squeezing and releasing my dick in her and without any other movement of either of us. As she squeezes very hard, it gave me a very high pleasure.
The only drawback is I have not been able to resist long.
Worth the visit!
Damage: R$ 225 (less than 100 euros)
Devilspinkick
02-13-10, 11:22
In fact, this girl did squeeze my dick into her **** up to a level I have never ever seen before. She made me come just squeezing and releasing my dick in her and without any other movement of either of us. As she squeezes very hard, it gave me a very high pleasure.
Surprisingly this is the first time I've seen anyone mention garotas that employ pompoar (ie., Kegel) for quite some time. Always great to find a lady that has good muscle control down there. While in Rio last month I hooked up with a scrawny lass at Solarium who would squeeze her muscles with every outward stoke. It felt very good.
"O tempora, O mores"
- DSK
To all of those in Rio for carnaval, that might find some of your normal venues closed or traffic difficult to navigate: Takeout is available from Scortshow, as they are open for business during carnaval. Still R$120 for 2 hours plus taxi. They operate on saturday until 6 PM and other days until midnight. Barao do Flamengo Hotel, R$ 40-50, short time, near the Largo do Machado metro station, is near the agency and you will avoid the taxi fee.
Surprisingly this is the first time I've seen anyone mention garotas that employ pompoar (ie., Kegel) for quite some time. Always great to find a lady that has good muscle control down there. While in Rio last month I hooked up with a scrawny lass at Solarium who would squeeze her muscles with every outward stoke. It felt very good.
"O tempora, O mores"
- DSK
I mentioned it last year, there was in march, petite thin dark hair at MC, I did not get her as after we talk she got busy and I no more see her.
But I got one in Recife 5 years ago and she was GREAT !
Something every man should try and something every woman should invest some time to learn it....
As Lu Riva said it is big pleasure for her and for him....I do not know for her, but very true for the man :D
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFvwUypHURI
Brazil Specialist
02-14-10, 09:57
Sorry but I do not believe Help girls, famous for be lazy
Well seems you guys allowed them to be lazy. This is why I am proud to say I have not set foot into Help for almost 10 years, and I live 3 blocks away.
and to have high absurd prices are now working in terma for 40 reais for session ?!?
actually, most were cheaper then that. And then of course they have to deduct the fee for the house. But the cheap price is for very short time, if you insist on longer time, prices go up. But I would rather do 4 girls for 15 minutes each then 1 girl for an hour.
But yes, I was surprised too. And note I am talking the cute young hard bodies, most likely the dogs are there too but I would not have talked to them nor asked them.
The help girls who hardly went down -50 reais until morning will never work for only 40 reais !
well, as I said, they have plenty of customers a day, so they make money not out of one guy but out of several, so it adds up.
Seems they don't see any other options. Seems also they cannot make it into high priced termas, or most likely they don't know about them.
And the fact you not mention which are these termas where they are supposed to work, confirm it is not true.
I always was very generous with information, for decades I published all I knew. Now with Help closing and with the general worsening of mongering everywhere, even in Asia, I am worried that publishing info is detrimental to the survival of these places. Not so much because of dumb behavior by gringos, but because of notoriety and the feminazis on a mission to stamp out all fun in this world.
Also the best place was shown to me by a guy who made me promise not to publish it. But, places can be found, most were reported here at some time, can be found at Brazilian boards, and advertise in local news papers.
I was in Rio after Help closure and I went to real many, many termas and I saw ZERO Help girls but you see Help girls everywhere ? Yes, and tomorrow it is february 30 :D
many many termas? how many do you know?
I probably went to 50 places. You have to look around .........
But as I said, I was kind of surprised. But I also always thought that Help was a hell hole, of overcharging girls. Low life girls charging high.
As opposed to model hopefuls, college girls, students, or at least store sales clerks who could get a Brazilian to pay them 100, 150, even 400 or 500. Brazilians pay attention to status, education, demeanour, behavior ............
And somehow the ghetto chicks scared off the nicer girls who did not want to put up with dangerous ghetto street fighting girls. This has happened for 10 years already. I think Help, for a long time, had a negative selection, attracting low life and scaring off class.
Oh, and the cheapo places are low life too, but security is provided by police mob who make sure things run very very smoothly because disturbances will be handled instantly and harshly. So safety for the girls is guaranteed.
Tiradentes
02-14-10, 18:50
No dude, they are just closed for renovations. They will be openning up at the end of the month. If you wear a Brazil national soccer jersey with the "S" instead of the "Z", you don"t have to pay entrance fee.
Also, Free drinks alll night long for the first week they open. Have fun! Wish I could be there. RTFF!
True. True that !.
Also, as a general rule in all the clubs in BraSil , if you dance by swinging your arms together like you were cradling a baby, it is common that the girl will go out with you for half the price. Full price will be waived , if you are attractive.
See the dance for yourself to learn it perfectly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPN0PYl9xQw&NR=1
Simpleminded
02-16-10, 03:28
i was in rio from jan 17 to jan 26. i was with lukasek and another friend so maybe you can get a 2nd opinion about rio from my perspective.
the first few termas we hit in centro were ba85 which i did not go in because i like blondes and i never find any in there. more importantly, i am 6'4, 240lbs and claustrophobic so that staircase makes me feel like that place is a deathtrap if there was a fire there and everyone tried to leave by the staircase all at once. anyway, lukasek and my friend did not find anything to their liking so they were out of there quickly. we went to the other terma on the main shopping street when you come out of the metro that is perpendicular to buenos aires. it has like four floors and and is in front of a news stand. i forgot the name and address but it is in bubba's guide. that place has a few girls more to my liking at least for the price you pay, but none of us took anyone. then we went to the terma up the street and to the right from 4x4. i think the address is 81 quintada. it was early like 3pm and the girls were just starting to come in but i saw at least one and maybe two girls i would definitely take. the price is like 10r entrance and 100r for 30 or 40 minutes i believe.
we then went to ternas 65. i have never been there before. i can't believe how close it is to 4x4 and i never even knew it was there. it is 70r to get in. very expensive, but they have the nicest robes of any terma i have been in hands down. for me though, a nice robe does not justify a 70r entrance fee.
as soon as we get in and i go to the bar, a girl with light blonde hair sitting at the bar tries the old "don't i know you from somewhere? " routine. i kind of brushed her off even though she was my type because i just got there and wanted to have a look around. she insisted but even though she started to look familar to me i told her i didn't know her. then she saw my friend said, "yes, i do know both of you! ".
at that point i no longer thought is was just a line. i told her i have never been in termas 65 and she said she used to work at cancun. then the memories came rushing back. i took her in cancun and then had her and her friend joycee (my friend did her) come to our apartment and stay overnight. ooops! long story short, her stage name is flavia and she has a nice little petite body, but she has very little time left since she is like 30. anyway, i took her again and had a great time.
the next terma visit was luomo on wednesday i think. there were a few girls to my liking, probably about four. i ended up going with [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) partly because she has a hairstyle that looks like a 1980's p_orn star. also, she has a great body and pretty big natural tits. i had a good time with her, no complaints and she let me take pictures. my friend ended up leaving early because he was too drunk and falling asleep. lukasek ended up taking a girl also whos name i don't remember.
my next session was with a girl i have kept in contact with and saw since last january. she works at 4x4. she looked better than when i saw her in september. it looks like she lost some weight and is staying away from the late night bob's burgers. had a good time with her, but as always, it usually costs much less in terms of time, money, and drama if you keep the girls in their natural habitat (the termas). i'm kidding about the termas being their natural habitat. my point is that if you get friendly with a pro, you usually end up spending more time and money on them than if you just sessioned with them in the termas and did not meet them outside. not to mention that they start to think they own you and that you should not be seeing other girls even though they see other guys daily.
my friend back home has been insisting i do a threesome since he is married and would never get the opportunity to do it himself. i must admit, a threesome does not really do anything for me, but i guess since i have the opportunity i might as well do it just so i can say i did. i rented a 2bd apartment with my friend so the plan was to call three karla models. i would take two and then when i'm finished my friend would take one of them to add to his session with his girl. since we have completely different tastes in girls, we made three lists. his favorites, my favorites, and ones we both would do. then we called up and tried to get our top picks. this is hard to do especially if you want two or more girls together.
also, be aware that the girls in the top of the website with a first and last name are in a different office from the girls in the bottom of the website with only one name. if you try to mix and match it is like trying to herd cats and will cost you more taxi fares and you can be sure they will not show up together.
so we ended up getting these three:
leandra filakosker: not really pretty. looks darker and much worse than her pictures. i'm not saying she is fat or anything. it is her in the pictures, but when she comes to your apartment in street clothes and her hair is not made up and much darker than in the pictures. that being said, she was a trooper and was into it so no complaints in the performance department.
karine ferarri: pretty girl, nice little ass and petite body. i am not into girls with black hair but didn't mind her at all. my friend took her first, but said she was a little dull in the sack. i had her last and she was no superstar but neither am i so she was okay in my book. also, she speaks english.
karem spear: pretty face, nice tits, very good body. i had her first and then she was my fluffer and ball jiggler when i was banging leandra. i thought she was very good, my friend thought she was more of a fluffer.
not that i really cared, but none of these girls would eat each other out. if you want something like that, your best bet is to find a karla model you like and then ask her who her friends are and pick one of them for the threesome on another day.
the girls wanted another 60r for any girl that would do a second guy. so if me and my friend wanted to bang each of them it would cost another 180r total. we made a deal with them where we gave them some makeup and they were fine with it so you can negotiate with them. the total bill was 360r plus 50r for taxi. i think that was a great deal for each of us to have three girls. that would have cost us 1200 to 1500r in a terma i think. now that i have done a threesome and maybe a foursome since i had three in one session but technically did not have all three at the same time, i thought it was a lot of fun and would do it again but only in my apt, not in a terma.
when i had a sunburn, i stayed home on tuesday while lukasek and my friend went to solarium. they were raving about how great it was so i went with them when they went back on friday i think.
it was packed, but there were not many girls of the type i like. we stayed and had drinks and talked to a few girls but we all left without taking any.
saturday night we went to club 00. in september me and lukasek tried to go there at around 1am and the line was out to the street. being the geniuses that we are, our plan this time was to go very early like 9pm and eat in the restaurant and then we will stick around for the club to start. it's a good plan right?
well it was a good plan and it worked. another good plan would have been to just show up like 11:30 to 12 midnight and walk in since there was no line. i don't know what happened but it was not nearly as crowded as it was in september. it was okay, but there were no huge crowds or lines to the street like in september. is it because college kids are out of school or on vacation? anyway, it was pretty cool. there is no need to go to the restaurant early and sit around in an empty club for more than an hour. you can just show up before midnight.
on our last day my friend and i got two karla models. i got flavia, he got cleo. lukasek was at our apt and helped with the call to karla's. he did not partake, but was there to see us off since we were leaving that day.
flavia had a very nice body and gave a good bbbj and had a great attitude. her face was kind of mousey. lukasek thought that she was so ugly that when they were leaving he was going to shake her hand instead of a kiss on the cheek. the reason i mention this is so the readers will not think that either me or lukasek is lying about our reports. we just have different opinions or rating scales.
cleo was taller than she looked in the pictures. my friend said she was pretty good in the sack.
overall, i had a good time in rio and would come back again a 7th time. i have to admit that i think it was not as good as the other times. by this i mean that in trips past i would usually find a few girls in each terma that i thought were superstars. this trip did not give me the same feeling. maybe i am just getting too used to it. i will have to try the fkk clubs and report my findings.
for my friend it is his fourth trip and he thought it was a little dissapointing. lukasek also thought it was dissapointing but as i remember, when he was here for three months he said he would never come back. after being home for a month or two, he said he missed rio and couldn't wait to come back.
for me, an okay time in rio easily beats a great time in the us.
editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
Can anyone suggest any muscular/athletic ladies in the various termas of Rio?
Thanks!
Can anyone suggest any muscular/athletic ladies in Rio
You'll find muscular hotties at the Passeio Publico (Lapa).
:D
[QUOTE=Simpleminded]
The girls wanted another 60R for any girl that would do a second guy. So if me and my friend wanted to bang each of them it would cost another 180R total. We made a deal with them where we gave them some makeup and they were fine with it so you can negotiate with them. The total bill was 360R plus 50R for taxi. I think that was a great deal for each of us to have three girls.
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They must have changed the rules at Karla Models. For years, as long as there were more girls than guys, then the girls had to switch. There was no extra 60R per girl, it was free. So in your case where it was 3 girls and two guys, the both of you should have beem fucking all three without having been told to pay an additional 180R on top of the 360R Bill. (I am glad they accepted makeup instead)
What is HELP status, is it temporarily closed for renovations? USA today has reported that it is closed permanently and will be converted to a museum?
[QUOTE=Simpleminded]
The girls wanted another 60R for any girl that would do a second guy. So if me and my friend wanted to bang each of them it would cost another 180R total. We made a deal with them where we gave them some makeup and they were fine with it so you can negotiate with them. The total bill was 360R plus 50R for taxi. I think that was a great deal for each of us to have three girls.
[QUOTE]
They must have changed the rules at Karla Models. For years, as long as there were more girls than guys, then the girls had to switch. There was no extra 60R per girl, it was free. So in your case where it was 3 girls and two guys, the both of you should have beem fucking all three without having been told to pay an additional 180R on top of the 360R Bill. (I am glad they accepted makeup instead)I was in a similar situation a few years ago. 6 girls from two different agencies. (Karla and Show I think.) They asked for an extra 50 each because there were 4 guys. We agreed. Afterwards we gave a Brasilian the money to split between the girls. They asked for 150 each. He said something like, "There were more girls than guys. You did less work, not more. You get no extra money." Strangely, the agreed and happily took 100 each. In the only other escort experience I have had there were 2 girls, 2 guys for a double (4 hour) session. They happily switched and did not ask for extra money.
With my limited experience, I think the girls were just trying to get extra money but were not entitled to it. Maybe the rule exists when there are extra guys.
[QUOTE=Bravo][QUOTE=Simpleminded]
I was in a similar situation a few years ago. 6 girls from two different agencies. (Karla and Show I think.) They asked for an extra 50 each because there were 4 guys. We agreed. Afterwards we gave a Brasilian the money to split between the girls. They asked for 150 each. He said something like, "There were more girls than guys. You did less work, not more. You get no extra money." Strangely, the agreed and happily took 100 each. In the only other escort experience I have had there were 2 girls, 2 guys for a double (4 hour) session. They happily switched and did not ask for extra money.
With my limited experience, I think the girls were just trying to get extra money but were not entitled to it. Maybe the rule exists when there are extra guys.
We are both correct. As long as there are more females than males, there is no extra fee. However, since they know they are dealing with gringos, they throw that extra charge in there expecting us to pay because we dont know any better.
Gfe Finder
02-17-10, 00:04
what is help status, is it temporarily closed for renovations? usa today has reported that it is closed permanently and will be converted to a museum?
closed permanently, as can be verified from numerous news sources and reports on this board. they've even auctioned off stuff from inside (i would have loved to be there to get a piece of rio history.)
if i'm understanding the reports here correctly, they've rep001tered some to balcony, some to other copa gdp bars, correct?
What is HELP status, is it temporarily closed for renovations? USA today has reported that it is closed permanently and will be converted to a museum?
I did not think there is yet somebody who does not know it :D
Help is like CCCP ( or URSS if you prefer ;) )... gone forever !
Yep there will be a museum.
Simpleminded
02-17-10, 03:42
We never actually verified with Karla Models what their policy is on more girls than guys. I'm sure if we asked and they knew we were gringos they would have tried to charge extra. I guess the girls tried to charge extra for the same reason. Since they are not suppose to get extra, they were willing to take the cosmetics which would have cost them 60R each in Brazil. Also, if they insisted, only one of them would have got the extra 60R because I would have just kept my two and my friend would take the other girl plus one of mine when I was finished. It was win win for everyone.
John Cricket
02-17-10, 06:01
You'll find muscular hotties at the Passeio Publico (Lapa).
:DThat's funny, Prosal!
But many of the newbies here probably don't know that the Passeio Público is 100% transvestites and one or another of them might actually try and go there.
You should warn people.
Devilspinkick
02-17-10, 17:56
Can anyone suggest any muscular/athletic ladies in the various termas of Rio?
Finding truly muscular and buff WOMEN at the Termas might be a bit of a challenge. Plenty of fat chicks, many thin ladies, but athletic? No doubt there are some but I can't recall any at the moment. Your best bet might be to visit L'uomo (at least some of the women there are fit & thin), 4X4 (all shapes & sizes there), and if you are willing to splurge a bit then Centaurus may well have some women with the body type you like.
For an outcall option, check out Hotside.com.br. I notice that there are usually at least a couple of GDPs that are body-builder types.
Stay away from the Passieo Publico unless you are interested in "bonecas".
- DSK
Exec Talent
02-17-10, 19:25
Can anyone suggest any muscular/athletic ladies in the various termas of Rio?
Thanks!
You asked this same question in the Rio forum in 2008. Other than your inquiries, you have contributed nothing. Share your experiences with other forum members then ask your question again. Personally, I know where there are several girls who have a muscular build (and no not TVs or TSs)
Can anyone suggest any muscular/athletic ladies in the various termas of Rio?
Thanks!Here is a link to a dedicated site: http://gpsmusculosas.********.com/
I am visiting Rio next week and will be staying at Caesar Park on the beach. Are there any good termas or clubs nearby within walking distance? Which would be the best outcall service that provides tall models? I am also curious how much extra it would cost if you want to have anal with the girls. Thanks a lot, brothers.
Hi Simpleminded,
I have really appreciated your great report.
I was wondering about Karlamodel's girls. Now, I know what I can expect from her.
I wil be in Copacabana from February 27th to March 7th.
Will be glad to share a caipirinha with other mongers.
Jazzy Daddy
02-18-10, 19:22
I am visiting Rio next week and will be staying at Caesar Park on the beach. Are there any good termas or clubs nearby within walking distance? Which would be the best outcall service that provides tall models? I am also curious how much extra it would cost if you want to have anal with the girls. Thanks a lot, brothers.
Just for your 411, I stayed at Caesar Park Hotel in Ipanema in 1998 during Carnaval. It is a very beautiful hotel with excellent beach rights and nice beach view rooms.If you go to the beach using CP section and umbrellas, girls will often start flirting with you as they know CP is an expensive hotel. However if you plan to bring GDP's back to your room it will be extremely difficult if not impossible. Go out and enjoy the city after you RTFF, there are endless supplies of GDP's for every taste and budget...
I am visiting Rio next week and will be staying at Caesar Park on the beach. Are there any good termas or clubs nearby within walking distance? Which would be the best outcall service that provides tall models? I am also curious how much extra it would cost if you want to have anal with the girls. Thanks a lot, brothers.
I stayed at Caesar Park in 2002 and succeeded in getting a GDP into my room quite easily. I had her meet me in the bar and from there we nonchalantly walked to the elevator. This will probably work only in the daytime and only if the girl looks "respectable," i.e. not like a prostitute. If anyone stops you on the way to the elevator, just say you are going to the rooftop restaurant.
The only termas within walking distance is the very controversial Centaurus. Best take a taxi to L'uomo or the metro to 4x4.
Fellows,
Talking about Caesar Park let me ask you a question.
Does anybody here knows if one of those massagists who work in 2 points in front of CP on the beach are also gdp's?
I remember that years ago one of us said that a massagist went with him to CP but it was a girl that is not there anymore.
Poucolouco
02-18-10, 23:14
Here is a link to a dedicated site: http://gpsmusculosas.********.com/
Your link was screened by WSG software. If you insert blanks it will pass the screen.
e.g. www. vivizinhaferraz . blog spot .com/ (delete alll blanks to use this link)
Simpleminded
02-18-10, 23:33
Thanks Math92,
Have a good time in Rio. I think it is worth it to give Karla's a shot. I wanted to get Marisol Buenos because I liked her body and saw her face in the book, but she was always busy. A friend of mine went to Rio after me and was able to get her. He said she was good. I know if I saw her in a terma I would take her for sure, so to me 120R for her for 2 hours is a very good deal.
Hi Simpleminded,
I have really appreciated your great report.
I was wondering about Karlamodel's girls. Now, I know what I can expect from her.
I wil be in Copacabana from February 27th to March 7th.
Will be glad to share a caipirinha with other mongers.
I am visiting Rio next week and will be staying at Caesar Park on the beach. Are there any good termas or clubs nearby within walking distance? Which would be the best outcall service that provides tall models? I am also curious how much extra it would cost if you want to have anal with the girls. Thanks a lot, brothers.
Most GDP's include the back door as part of the service, kind of like Pay One Price for all 3 holes!
Caesar Park is really not GDP friendly, if I recall a friend had to pay R150 extra for an overnight guest. If you plan on ordering in, I suggest finding a better hotel or rent a flat. If price is no object and you need to have hotel service may I suggest The Promenade Visconti in Ipanema.
Please either read Bubba Boy Guide or use the search function for Zona Sul Termas.
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Please either read Bubba Boy Guide or use the search function for Zona Sul Termas.
And please...do not forget to report too...
Devilspinkick
02-19-10, 00:23
The only termas within walking distance is the very controversial Centaurus. Best take a taxi to L'uomo or the metro to 4x4.
Actually there is no need to take a taxi from Ceasar Park to L'uomo or Monte Carlo for that matter. Not any more. Simply walk four blocks to the newly opened General Osorio metro in Ipanema and ride the train to the Siqueira Campos stop. From there, L'uomo is about a block away on the second floor of a commercial center. MC is about four blocks away on Hilario de Gouveia.
As stated earlier the only Termas that is a close walk is Centaurus. You could theoretically walk to Solarium if you want to get a bit of exercise (it's a long walk). I have walked to Solarium from Ipanema before but I don't make a habit of it and certainly don't advise doing it unless you are in good shape.
- DSK
Can anyone suggest any muscular/athletic ladies in the various termas of Rio?
Thanks!Not a terma girl, but she is new on hotside! You can tell she has put in hundreds of hours at the gym!! Bruna Belfort
http://www.hotside.com.br/app/site/modelo/?id=809
Hi,
Thanks gents for all your latest info, gonns be a great help to me, going back to Rio mar4 after 3 years.
Any mongers want to meet for a beer and a hunt. Msg me.
Math 92, can't msg you for some reason.
Jasss
Not a terma girl, but she is new on hotside! You can tell she has put in hundreds of hours at the gym!! Bruna Belfort
http://www.hotside.com.br/app/site/modelo/?id=809
Good post and yes I have seen her and others like her on this site and others but unfortunately this guy is just a troll.
Heres a site that has more:
http://www.assaradonas.com.br/acompanhantes.htm
Good post and yes I have seen her and others like her on this site and others but unfortunately this guy is just a troll.
Hers a site that has more:
http://www.assaradonas.com.br/acompanhantes.htm
I see Barbara is now Karen, or is that just a mistake by the site owners
I see Barbara is now Karen, or is that just a mistake by the site owners
GDPs change their names all the time.
As there another club opened yet like the Old Club Help.
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Went to Balcony on Tuesday night, saw several familiar faces from HELP. Did not get any of the reported "hard sell" tactics and didn't ask prices so can't offer intel on that. After maybe half an hour went to "Erotica, " basically dead inside. Stayed through the 2 drinks included in the cover then returned to Balcony for another look C. Still nothing of interest. Decided to check out Dolce Vita as it looked like there was some action there. BOY WAS THERE! The place was PACKED! Looked to be about equal guys to girls and again lots of familiar HELP faces. Action was similar to HELP, I. E. Chat, dance, drink, etc. Again, none of the "hard sell" others have reported. Did kind of chat up one girl but by that time the 3 or 4 too many Cuba Libres I'd had had caught up with me and I knew it'd be a waste of time to take her so I left. FITW, hung over as hell the next day.
Stay at the JW Marriott. It is girl friendly from what others here have mentioned on this forum.
I am visiting Rio next week and will be staying at Caesar Park on the beach. Are there any good termas or clubs nearby within walking distance? Which would be the best outcall service that provides tall models? I am also curious how much extra it would cost if you want to have anal with the girls. Thanks a lot, brothers.
thanks all for the helpful tips. Will report back.
SlimHoleDrill
02-19-10, 23:55
... My personal favorite is just down the street from the aforementioned juice bar on Maria Quiteria closer to Prudente de Morais and is called "Espalunca". Great little hole in the wall with great cold beer. A bit more upscale for many but for me it's the right combination of cold beer snacks and eye candy. ...
A small update. 'Espelunca' Chic at this location is now Barthodomeu. I don't go there often -- probably the last time was June or July -- but it had changed already. But the scene is still the same. Jumping, but somehow the quaint, attractive little place across the street is always deserted (yellow with green trim).
Espelunca Chic is (or was?) some sort of chain but I haven't checked to see If any other locations are still open. But that would be a good bet. The food at Espelunca is definitely more 'cougaresc'. Another hangout is any Cafeina -- especially the one on Farme. Most of the men will be gay so it is open season.
Still, unless you are pretty hot and speak some Portuguese, I think your chances are low. But, you never know until you try. It has been remarked a number of times that gringos have an extra hill to climb with non-pros. Sort of yin and yang. Since the gdp scene is so easy and abundant (despite the loss of Help) it is fitting that the other should be more difficult. But, compared to your chances in the 'developed world' I would say no worse -- which is pretty bad!
Good cougar hunting to all. And BTW, it's not only cougars that hang out at such places.
Bad Boy Billy
02-20-10, 01:27
Need your help guys - will be arriving Rio in June and need to book the BEST 2 bedroom apartment I can - any advice on top end 2 bedroom apartments greatly appreciated.
Don't want to come empty handed so thought I might post a few pics from past Rio trip - enjoy.
I have also posted same post in Hotels and Apartments thread - different pics though.
Hey Bad Boy Billy,
Are "Rio4" girls from Karla Models?
One or two of them look familiar. Jejeje
i have a friend thats going to rio in may and he wants to know where he can find girls that do [CodeWord135] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord135)(shit play) and [CodeWord101] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord101)(getting pissed on)?
hey, it sounds crazy but i try to accomodate all tastes, no matter how weird or sick they are.
SlimHoleDrill
02-21-10, 14:46
There is one lady in L'uomo who fits this description. she has some ink and dresses in what looks like black leather to enhance the effecf but I didn't get close enough to really tell.
Unfortunately, they usualy don't get into this until they are approaching or have passed their 'sell by' date. Now, to find a smoking 22 yo with abs would be great but this is very unusual. Of course there are the mesomorphs, the naturals, like Pietra, who, BTW, was smoking last night!
... attractive little place across the street is always deserted (yellow with green trim).
SHD - this is sarcasm, right? You are referring to Emporio?
Barthodomeu now huh? Man, that places changes name more often that I change my socks. Unlilke Emporio which has stayed pretty much the same for 20 years.
Cafeina - hmmmmm. You know, I have only ever been there (the one of Farme) for breakfast. Need to check it out in the evening. But you are right, there are more gay guys that you can shake a stick at. A friend of mine was banging one of the waitresses there about a year ago. Thanks for the tip.
Sadly, I have not been to Rio since last April but that is going to change soon.
Alex Deuce
02-22-10, 02:00
There is one lady in L'uomo who fits this description. she has some ink and dresses in what looks like black leather to enhance the effecf but I didn't get close enough to really tell.
Unfortunately, they usualy don't get into this until they are approaching or have passed their 'sell by' date. Now, to find a smoking 22 yo with abs would be great but this is very unusual. Of course there are the mesomorphs, the naturals, like Pietra, who, BTW, was smoking last night!
Mess with her you better pack a lunch but she s a sweetie and very good
hi gents,
how is the terma scene lately? i had heard sommuch griping the past few weeks, i am a little worried!
has any new circus opened up to fill the void left by helpee?
anyone in gig next week wanna catch a drink etc., please pm me.
b.
SlimHoleDrill
02-22-10, 09:23
SHD - this is sarcasm, right? You are referring to Emporio?
Barthodomeu now huh? Man, that places changes name more often that I change my socks. Unlilke Emporio which has stayed pretty much the same...
Actually, I've never been in it. It is alwyas pretty empty so why go in. It just looks like chicks would go there. Wood frame with windows, multilevel seating ... but I don't know. What's wrong with it?
Anyway, the good thing about finding a place ladies like to go is the numbers. Lots of them so better chances. The down side is they go in groups which presents challenges. Also, in a place like Cafeina, they may be off their guard.
It's at least an interesting diversion. Even though Farme is the gay street, you can sit there and see some of Rio'a finest women walk by. Also, Rota 66 next door is a good possibility.
Actually, I've never been in it. It is alwyas pretty empty so why go in. It just looks like chicks would go there. Wood frame with windows, multilevel seating ... but I don't know. What's wrong with it?
Anyway, the good thing about finding a place ladies like to go is the numbers. Lots of them so better chances. The down side is they go in groups which presents challenges. Also, in a place like Cafeina, they may be off their guard.
It's at least an interesting diversion. Even though Farme is the gay street, you can sit there and see some of Rio'a finest women walk by. Also, Rota 66 next door is a good possibility.
Emporio opens most nights at 23:00 (11:00 PM) and seldom closes before 5:00 AM. It rarely gets going before 12:30 AM. If you show up at 2:00 AM on Thursdays night the place will have spilled out onto the street. Show up at 3:30 AM and there are drunk sluts (non-GDP's) laughing and carrying on. It can be hit or miss but I have dropped by a few times for a night cap at 3:00 AM and have ended up bringing a girl home a couple of times. In fact, once I brought one home because she was so drunk I didn't think she would make it back to her parent place in Laranjeiras. Once I got her to my room she passed out on the sofa with a drink in her hand. You can imagine her surprise when she woke up at 8:00 AM not knowing where she was (I know the feeling well).
Stinky Squid
02-22-10, 15:38
Hi, I am new to the Brazilian scene and would appreciate if someone could clear up some terminology. On Karla Models, the description of the girls use words like "inicante" and "completinha", does this hint to any inhibitions that the girls have? I hear that many girls in Brazil have no problems with DFK, BBBJ, CIM and anal, but it there any tell-tale words that they use to indicate that it's going to be a big no-no (inicante not wanting to do stuff)?
Also Karla Models seem to have really low price quote (R$120/2h), but I read good things about them here in the forum. What's the catch? And how come one can't find any other acompanhantes site with similar prices (minimum $200/1h). I won't be venturing out too much, but would like to have lady guests in my apartment regularly. Do girls in Termas give you their number and do freelance visits too?
Thanks so much!
On Karla Models, the description of the girls use words like "inicante" and "completinha", does this hint to any inhibitions that the girls have?
Also Karla Models seem to have really low price quote (R$120/2h), but I read good things about them here in the forum. What's the catch? And how come one can't find any other acompanhantes site with similar prices (minimum $200/1h).
Thanks so much!
There are many on this board who speak better Portuguese than me but for lack of any responses, I will say that the word "inicante" is like the English word Initial so in my opinion they are using it here to say that the girl is a beginner. "completinha" on the other hand refers to the fact that the girl provides complete service which is usually a code word for does anal.
http://www.hotside.com.br/app/site/capa/
The above site has a list of independents but not low priced usually but if you scroll down the page you will come to some advertisements of other escort agencies, one such agency StarCris I see advertised as 100 reais but I’m not sure if that is for 2 hours or not but for sure they are competitively priced as well as CIA to Karla models.
I have never used Karla models but have used CIA and StarCris on numerous occasions, the catch usually is that although the girls are young and have good attitudes and provide good service they usually don't resemble runway models. While in most cases this may not be necessary they usually provide an adequate product and service for the money. You will get value and a bang for your buck here as compared to the current high prices of the high end termas that run near 300 reais for a 40 min session.
KellySlater
02-22-10, 17:13
There are many on this board who speak better Portuguese than me but for lack of any responses, I will say that the word "inicante" is like the English word Initial so in my opinion they are using it here to say that the girl is a beginner. .Yes but it is spelled wrong
Is actually "Iniciante"
Emporio opens most nights at 23:00 (11:00 PM) and seldom closes before 5:00 AM. It rarely gets going before 12:30 AM. If you show up at 2:00 AM on Thursdays night the place will have spilled out onto the street. Show up at 3:30 AM and there are drunk sluts (non-GDP's) laughing and carrying on. It can be hit or miss but I have dropped by a few times for a night cap at 3:00 AM and have ended up bringing a girl home a couple of times. In fact, once I brought one home because she was so drunk I didn't think she would make it back to her parent place in Laranjeiras. Once I got her to my room she passed out on the sofa with a drink in her hand. You can imagine her surprise when she woke up at 8:00 AM not knowing where she was (I know the feeling well).
Below is an excerpt of something I found googling Emporio, gonna have to put this place on my radar.
Located in in Ipanema, the Emporio bar has long been a famous meeting point for rock and alternative music lovers. However, fame from various travel institutions has also change the atmosphere by attracting tourists, drug sellers, prostitutes and Brazilian fortune hunters wanting to meet tourists.
Below is an excerpt of something I found googling Emporio, gonna have to put this place on my radar.
"However, fame from various travel institutions has also change the atmosphere by attracting tourists, drug sellers, prostitutes and Brazilian fortune hunters wanting to meet tourists Yeah, baby!!!! That sounds pretty accurate. It's the quintessential after hours club that attracts the dark underbelly of respectable Carioca society plus a whole host of "bad girls" looking to party. How can you not like it?
yeah, baby!!!! that sounds pretty accurate. it's the quintessential after hours club that attracts the dark underbelly of respectable carioca society plus a whole host of "bad girls" looking to party. how can you not like it?
emporio has been around for years. i am pretty sure it is even in rio for partiers. it used to have a good rock night.
i am puzzled why long term members haven't heard of it. in a place where clubs come and go with alarming speed it has been a mainstay for a long time.
take time out to read the paper on fridays if you want to find out whats happening in which club and if any new places have arrived.
...
I am puzzled why long term members haven't heard of it...
Or they just did not want to have there tons of horny mongers :D
I read through the first 10 pages on here but couldn't find any info on the higher end night clubs mostly just info about help which is closed. Could someone name some higher end night clubs like a cafe photo in SP? I'm staying in Rio in Barra da Tijuca for 2 days only.
Thanks
John Cricket
02-23-10, 16:36
Horny mongers have been showing up at Empório for years.
hi gents,
how is the terma scene lately? i had heard sommuch griping the past few weeks, i am a little worried!
has any new circus opened up to fill the void left by helpee?
anyone in gig next week wanna catch a drink etc., please pm me.
b.
circus to gill the void left by help: balcony and disco next to balcony, was it called dolce vida ??
lot of girls outside both places. this dolce vida is help nowadays, same gilrs (who are left). much much smaller but same kind of action.
balcony has too much crowd and everybody are uncomfortable, girls and customer, it is too hot, service is sometimes slow and toilets are like brasilian prison: many men in small room with temperature 60 degrees celcius.
this small disco upstairs is more comfortable, there is working airconditioning. better looking girls go there.
you can just stay outside of both places and talk to the girls there, and drink beer there, like many men seems to do.
circus is good word for it, big circus.
Or they just did not want to have there tons of horny mongers :D
Well, THAT'S true enough. But quite honestly I don't think most mongers have the patience for it. Traditionally there have been very few GDP who frequent Emporio. But that may have changed with the demise of HELP. The other time (yes, there were only two) I took a girl (non-GDP) home from Emporio, she asked me to leave first and that she would meet me in the hotel lobby in ten minutes because she did not want to be seen leaving Emporio with a gringo because of what rumors might spread about her.
The surprising thing was that she ACTUALLY showed up!
I tried to call a couple of recommended agencies, including Karla and Scortshow. But the girls picking up the phone do not speak English. Any high-end agency that has operator who can speak English? many thanks,
There are many on this board who speak better Portuguese than me but for lack of any responses, I will say that the word "inicante" is like the English word Initial so in my opinion they are using it here to say that the girl is a beginner. "completinha" on the other hand refers to the fact that the girl provides complete service which is usually a code word for does anal.
http://www.hotside.com.br/app/site/capa/
The above site has a list of independents but not low priced usually but if you scroll down the page you will come to some advertisements of other escort agencies, one such agency StarCris I see advertised as 100 reais but I’m not sure if that is for 2 hours or not but for sure they are competitively priced as well as CIA to Karla models.
I have never used Karla models but have used CIA and StarCris on numerous occasions, the catch usually is that although the girls are young and have good attitudes and provide good service they usually don't resemble runway models. While in most cases this may not be necessary they usually provide an adequate product and service for the money. You will get value and a bang for your buck here as compared to the current high prices of the high end termas that run near 300 reais for a 40 min session.
SlimHoleDrill
02-23-10, 23:09
emporio has been around for years. i am pretty sure it is even in rio for partiers. it used to have a good rock night.
i am puzzled why long term members haven't heard of it. in a place where clubs come and go with alarming speed it has been a mainstay for a long time.
take time out to read the paper on fridays if you want to find out whats happening in which club and if any new places have arrived.
everybody has their parameters. i am not usually up for an all night adventure so don't really work at it that hard. if i am going to put some effort and time into it, i direct that to the music scene which is more interesting to me.
as far as garotas, i prefer to have a great time in a terma with the option of getting out early. the thrill of the hunt is outweighed by a good sleep.
another reason for married guys to leave this alone is what do you do if you actually catch one? muito complicado.
in fact if you live in rio for a while, you will probably have a lot of opportunities from the women in your social network. brasileiras, like their male counterparts, do a lot of fu@king around.
as far as emporio, i have only been around there for dinner so was unaware of the late night crowd. maybe i'll check it out.
so many garotas, so little time.
I tried to call a couple of recommended agencies, including Karla and Scortshow. But the girls picking up the phone do not speak English. Any high-end agency that has operator who can speak English? many thanks,
Look at the Hotside site, some of the independents say if they speak English or not.
Anyway why do you need someone to speak English? Just state the name of the girl and your address and tell her to come now (agora).
Jesabel, 1010 avenue atlantica, agora
or if you want a blond:
Loira, 1010 avenue atlantica, agora
or if you want a brunette:
Morena, 1010 avenue atlantica, agora
And tell them your telephone number.
...Any high-end agency that has operator who can speak English?..
For what ?!?
Some reais or even couple of bottle of beers and big smile to doorman with a piece of paper with written number of telephone of agency and name of girls you want, so fast, so easy but hey you do not have to be shy ;)
And think....in this way, you will make happy not only you but the doorman too :D
Rock Harders
02-24-10, 04:41
Mongers-
Emporio is the bar that "everybody" goes to essentially when there is no other place to go, as it is open 7 days a week until about 5am. It is a hot, dirty, overcrowded place, similar in some ways to the bar I myself own in Buenos Aires. The men's bathroom at Emporio is guaranteed to have at least an inch of [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on the floor at all times. The best bet is to get a table on the covered porch in front of one of the high powered fans in order to be reasonably comfortable. The waitress service out there is fast and you can keep the chopp coming as fast as you can drink 'em (and they are cheap).
As for the types of female customers who frequent the place; I have seen everything from Centaurus girls (funny story, girls I saw earlier in the day, didn't bang in Centaurus, then pulled out of Emporio at 5am for R$ 100), part-time pro Help girls, plenty of Brasilian and foreign non-pros, and a few MILF's here and there. As a result of it being the last bar in Ipanema to close, there is truly a mix of everybody in this place.
Sorte,
Rock Harders
Tiradentes
02-24-10, 05:08
I read through the first 10 pages on here but couldn't find any info on the higher end night clubs mostly just info about help which is closed. Could someone name some higher end night clubs like a cafe photo in SP? I'm staying in Rio in Barra da Tijuca for 2 days only.
Thanks
If by high end , you mean obscene amount of money for average service with lots of restrictions, then Barbarella is the place to visit in Rio. It is located in Copa, at the intersection of Princessa Isabel. Any taxi would know the place.
Another place to shun is Terma Centaurus.
Hint: More $$$$ does not correlate with better service in Brazil.
circus to gill the void left by help: balcony and disco next to balcony, was it called dolce vida ??
lot of girls outside both places. this dolce vida is help nowadays, same gilrs (who are left). much much smaller but same kind of action.
balcony has too much crowd and everybody are uncomfortable, girls and customer, it is too hot, service is sometimes slow and toilets are like brasilian prison: many men in small room with temperature 60 degrees celcius.
this small disco upstairs is more comfortable, there is working airconditioning. better looking girls go there.
you can just stay outside of both places and talk to the girls there, and drink beer there, like many men seems to do.
circus is good word for it, big circus.
i only have a few days but certainly will give it a go and check the helpee leftovers:)
there was some place supposed to open up in arpoador(?) that i heard about. any news on that?
If by high end, you mean obscene amount of money for average service with lots of restrictions, then Barbarella is the place to visit in Rio. It is located in Copa, at the intersection of Princessa Isabel. Any taxi would know the place. I know places like cafe photo can be a tourist trap but if they are hot than I am willing to pay the price.
Another place to shun is Terma Centaurus.
Hint: More $$$$ does not correlate with better service in Brazil.well high end meaning where I can find a 10 scale girls. Sometimes they're so hot you fore go the anal and or bbjtc since I won't be in Rio long I don't have time to search for the gems and rather just get to the point asap. If the girls are the types I like than I will return to Rio. I've been going only to sao paulo because the quality of girls and service there. Interestingly alot of girls come from Rio to work the weekdays and return to Rio on the weekends because they know sao pualo is where the money is.
I tried to call a couple of recommended agencies, including Karla and Scortshow. But the girls picking up the phone do not speak English. Any high-end agency that has operator who can speak English? many thanks,Here are some agencies that advertises they speak english:
http://www.mariasemvergonha.net/paginas/ensaios.html
http://www.pecadocarioca.com/principal.html
http://www.vipgoldrj.com/paginas/ensaios.html
Jamaicanceo
02-24-10, 15:50
well high end meaning where i can find a 10 scale girls. sometimes they're so hot you fore go the anal and or bbjtc since i won't be in rio long i don't have time to search for the gems and rather just get to the point asap. if the girls are the types i like than i will return to rio. i've been going only to sao paulo because the quality of girls and service there. interestingly alot of girls come from rio to work the weekdays and return to rio on the weekends because they know sao pualo is where the money is.that makes sense, since sao paulo is the financial capital of brasil and south america. the girls go where the brazilian clients will pay the most. only rio has the gringo who pay the barbarella and centuras girl prices. but with balcony being the new helpee and a meat market with favela prices, copa termas and barbarella will be cheap like balcony and the pussycat like strip clubs.
i was walking home from balcony to my apartment on ns de copacabana blvd and av djalma ulrich and a block or two walking toawards meia pataca from balcony there was a guy passing out flyers at 3am, for a club where there are girls. i went in it was like pussycat strip club with girls dressed like call girls, meaning club wear. you pick a girl, pay a house fee and you take the girl to your apartment for $150 for a few hours. there was a nice dark girl wearing all white that got my attention. but it was dark, i was a little boozed, so i walked out to my apartment because i didn't trust my eyes and mind. the guy seemed to be targeting gringos with the flyers, like all copa solicitors. so there are other peddler of gdp that will further affect the outrageously high priced copa termas and barbarella. it's the gdp economy bubble bursting.
i only have a few days but certainly will give it a go and check the helpee leftovers:)
there was some place supposed to open up in arpoador(?) that i heard about. any news on that?
i don't know where you got the arpoador from, maybe from this forum but that was an old rumor, some years back that the help owners were going to reopen in the old bingo arpoador location, but that doesn't seem to hold water anymore.
a more recent rumor was that the owners of help had bought the old vacant hotel meriden and were currently renovating the old space in the basement of the hotel that was once club regines many many moons ago. this renovation was supposed to be ready end of march 2010. doesn't seem to be much noise about this lately either.
Just heard this morning from my "boots on the ground" contact in Rio. The word he has is the Meridien is being remodeled with a separate entrance for the hotel and for the disco, with the disco being on the TOP FLOOR. We all know SOMETHING is going on at the Meridien as it is swathed in scaffolding and such.
Bad Boy Billy
02-24-10, 22:43
Thanks to the guys who responded via PM to my recent request for assistance regarding luxury Apartments.
A special word of thanks to the comedian who suggested I contact GringoManagement - I really don't think so.
Also posted in Rio Apartment section with different pics.
that makes sense, since sao paulo is the financial capital of brasil and south america. the girls go where the brazilian clients will pay the most. only rio has the gringo who pay the barbarella and centuras girl prices. but with balcony being the new helpee and a meat market with favela prices, copa termas and barbarella will be cheap like balcony and the pussycat like strip clubs.
i was walking home from balcony to my apartment on ns de copacabana blvd and av djalma ulrich and a block or two walking toawards meia pataca from balcony there was a guy passing out flyers at 3am, for a club where there are girls. i went in it was like pussycat strip club with girls dressed like call girls, meaning club wear. you pick a girl, pay a house fee and you take the girl to your apartment for $150 for a few hours. there was a nice dark girl wearing all white that got my attention. but it was dark, i was a little boozed, so i walked out to my apartment because i didn't trust my eyes and mind. the guy seemed to be targeting gringos with the flyers, like all copa solicitors. so there are other peddler of gdp that will further affect the outrageously high priced copa termas and barbarella. it's the gdp economy bubble bursting.
hey ceo,
did you mean 150 reals or us?
where is the place?
do you really want to walk back drunk at 3am!!
got here today but the rain screwed up the entire day.
will try balcony tonight or the upstairs disco.
anyone heading that wat tonight? pm me.
Jamaicanceo
02-25-10, 23:55
Hey CEO,
Did you mean 150 reals or US?
Where is the place?
Do you really want to walk back drunk at 3AM!
Got here today but the rain screwed up the entire day.
Will try Balcony tonight or the upstairs disco.
Anyone heading that what tonight? PM me.Hi Bizzie,
I meant 150 Reais. You're right I am getting too comfortable in Copa. I should've taken a taxi. The strip club is a few blocks west of Balcony. There is someone passing out flyers, and they will let you look in to see the girls. It looks like the PussyCat inside.
Don't waste your time in Dolce Vita. It's too small and too crowded. Looks like rain for yo through Tuesday.
For those of you that didn't get a chance to go to Rio or Carnival for 2010, perhaps seeing it (and few of it's assets) in HD(High Def) will alleviate some of your pain.
Checkout: http://www.hdclipsbr.com
Enjoy!
don't waste your time in dolce vita. it's too small and too crowded. looks like rain for yo through tuesday.
i got to balcony around 10 pm. it was just beginnig to rain again.
the place was pretty full. there was nothing that caught my eye so i sat there just inside the covered section slowly sipping a beer.
people were trickling in slowly at first and then by 12, the place was packed.
it was raining cats and dogs (more dogs than cats;)).
really! it's funny to see what kind of creatures rain can bring out.
actually there was girl in a pink dress wiht nice ass and tiny tits that i was keeping in reserve, but she got snagged y a portugese speaking dude.
there seemed to be more gringoes than garotas. due to the pouring rain, the tent and the bar were jam packed, you couldn't move around.
i wanted to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) but i didn't want to give up my seat. and for that i had to endure three loud mouthed yanks standing around me.
having noticed the condition of the balcony bathroom, i decided to check out the upstairs disco at around 1 am.
dolce vita is just next door. it was 30 reals to enter, one drink and the use of bathroom:). pretty small. just a little bigger than the size of some boites in termas. the place was pretty much empty. no action. after 45 minutes a few garotas were trickling in and out.
so i went back out to balcony.
still raining hard. spotted one new fresh face.
she did one circle of the bar and then went up to the disco.
fuck! i am not chasing that around. so i took a taxi back to my apartment around 2:30 am.
Thanks to the guys who responded via PM to my recent request for assistance regarding luxury Apartments.
A special word of thanks to the comedian who suggested I contact GringoManagement - I really don't think so.
Also posted in Rio Apartment section with different pics.What is the problem with gringomanagement?
Please send me the information on luxury Apartments.
...the place was packed.
it was raining cats and dogs (more dogs than cats;)).
i wanted to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) but i didn't want to give up my seat. and for that i had to endure three loud mouthed yanks standing around me.
dolce vita is just next door. it was 30 reals to enter, one drink and the use of bathroom:).
so i went back out to balcony.
fuck! i am not chasing that around. so i took a taxi back to my apartment around 2:30 am.
bizzie,
thanks for your report, i am happy there is somebody else who agree with me :d
it is totally uncomfortable to spend nights like these when you are in holidays.
dolce vita i believe it is really good just for use the bathroom, as all the girls there, sooner or later they will show up to balcony again, as they do not pay entrance for dv.
to make long short, it seems like when you are in one place and you see nothing, you move to another one, with hope maybe you will find something good, so you end to walk and move all the night long from balcony, dolce vita and all the boites of prado junior....yes probably it is good for get a good shape to stand up and walk all the night, but when you go back to your apt all alone and so horny.... you have the feeling now in rio is not as it should be....imho.
Thanks, this is a damned good suggestion, but the hotel I am staying (CP) is not girl friendly. Anyway, I tried out L'uomo. It was before 7 so I got an early bird discount. saw about 15 girls. I chose a slim girl with cute baby face. She is quite GFE and passionate but does not speak any English. So we ended up communicating with body languages. Anyway, she was sweet and "complete". Her name is Nina.
For what ?!?
Some reais or even couple of bottle of beers and big smile to doorman with a piece of paper with written number of telephone of agency and name of girls you want, so fast, so easy but hey you do not have to be shy ;)
And think....in this way, you will make happy not only you but the doorman too :D
Thanks, this is a damned good suggestion...
Your wellcome ;) and it is a suggestion that works everywhere in the world ;)
I never stayed in not hotel friendly as I want to have the chance to sleep with somebody if I want, I find very stupid an hotel deny a visitor...
Another great suggest, at least for me, that can be used for hotel non friendly or somebody that at reception wants to charge me for a fuck of one hour.... I arrive at reception, I say I have a problem and I wait a moment to keep on talking make think the receptionist there is a "big" problem...then I say I got a very important e mail from my collegue here and I really need to have it translated, is it a problem if she come upstairs with me to help me to translate in my notebook ?
Guess.... all the time the receptionist said yes with a big smile, with no charge at all.... yep, it works only during day time, but I like these innocent tricks, then I taste even more the session with her :D
p.s. in this last case when I order the pros I make clear she has to dress nice
Smokers Rule
02-27-10, 09:01
Hey guys,
Now that Help is closed, is Balcony Bar the best option for finding TLN? Is TLN harder to come by now?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
Bizzie,
thanks for your report, I am happy there is somebody else who agree with me :D
imho.
I agree with you to some extent, except Friday night there were plenty of good options. For me, about 20 percent were doable which is pretty good ratio no matter where you are.
The prices were 300 reals earlier , dropped to 200.
Becuase there were more options for me, I experienced the same old problem which is: indecision. Couldn't pull the trigger one any one until 2:30. By then a couple of good ones hd gotten away. Having too many choices is not so good sometimes (at least for me :))
But I did manage a 'girl next door' type with nice attitude and firm ass.
Will share pics soon.
Keep it up.
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Will share pics soon.
Keep it up.
Well too much good ones is something I did not experienced very often in Rio, but me it's me, ruined from east europe girls :D
Waiting for your pics, thanks in advance ;)
Well too much good ones is something I did not experienced very often in Rio, but me it's me, ruined from east europe girls :D
Waiting for your pics, thanks in advance ;)
I can understand that about EE girls. I love Ukrainians, not so much the ohters.
I must say that if the EE looks always translated into service, I would never go anywhere else, but they dont.
Variety is spice of life:) So experiment!
Was staying 5 nights in Cuidad Maravilhosa over carnaval. Hanged out most of the time around Balcony which is fun to watch. Later went up to Dolce Vita where I had to pay 50 Reais entrance (sigh). Perhaps they benefit from carnaval. Had 3 Malibu Oranges and they wanted to charge me 78 reais for it !!. I complained since Bacardi Coke was just 12 reais. Manager came and settled down to 50 reais which is still overpaid.
The toilet in Balcony is the worst I ever went to (and believe me I visited numerous around the globe).
After all, I had a great time in Rio - met nice Amazonian ladies at Lapa 40° and more at the beach. Great fun. I'll be back.
I can understand that about EE girls. I love Ukrainians, not so much the ohters.
I must say that if the EE looks always translated into service, I would never go anywhere else, but they dont.
Variety is spice of life:) So experiment! Hey you guys, this is the Brazil thread. What's all the talk about EE girls? But since you brought it up, I was browsing through some old photos and was reminded of my little friend Natasha from Kiev. While we're waiting for him to post HIS photos, here's a little something to look at.
Enjoy....
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=848532&postcount=1083
Exec Talent
03-02-10, 18:39
Hey you guys, this is the Brazil thread. What's all the talk about EE girls? But since you brought it up, I was browsing through some old photos and was reminded of my little friend Natasha from Kiev. While we're waiting for him to post HIS photos, here's a little something to look at.
Enjoy....
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=848532&postcount=1083
Jake,
Your photos (the rearview one, in particular) highlight why many of us go to Brazil. Natasha is very attractive no doubt, but she doesn't have a Brazilian butt. However, one thing I have noticed about Brazilian women is that they typically do not have very well defined calves.
SlimHoleDrill
03-02-10, 22:18
Those of you who love it when the bars and termas are rocking really missed out if you weren't in Rio this past weekend. An American Navy ship was in port. The entire place (or at least the places we care about) was over run with sailors. Many 18-22 yo guys drinking way too much and causing a few problems. You couldn't even get in some places. The girls were complaining about some of the guys (black dudes to be specific) had too big dicks and were hurting them with them. (Sorry, I never talk about race, but thought that comment was too good to pass up.) One girl came and sat with a friend of mine (who was done) to avoid having to go with another sailor!
There were long waits to get a room, get a drink, etc., etc. So, yeah, it was rocking all right. Fortunately, the ship sailed Monday morning so things can get back to normal.
Now, I'm not blaming the Americans. It would have been the same if it was the British Navy, the Russian Navy or any Navy. But I am glad to see them gone.
Alex Deuce
03-03-10, 01:26
Fellas, best place fOr mulattas?
Termas Etc..
21
31
65
73
81
116
191
502
4x4
Aeroporto
Âncora do Recreio
Aquárius
Beach Girls
Black House
Cancun
Caribean Queen
Centaurus
Coquettish
Correia Dutra
Excentric
Jacarepaguá
L´Uomo
La Palace
Monte Carlo
no Centro de Niterói
Rio Antigo
Sol de Ipanema
Solarium
Black and White
Boate Flórida
Buena Vista Club
Café 400
Centro de Lazer MV30
Club 117
Club 29
Copacabana Termas Spa
Paris Café
Phoenix
Só Filé e Cia
Whisqueria Orion Café
VM hands Down! Better quality Cheaper price!
Got this in an E-mail from one of my old regular GDP's. Brought a tear to my eye. LOL
Jamaicanceo
03-03-10, 06:33
Got this in an E-mail from one of my old regular GDP's. Brought a tear to my eye. LOLThe cause of Rio's new buyer's market for mongers, and the end of the seller's market for gdp! I love it. But it will be short lived, for there will be so much noise building that museum that it will make living in that section of Copa unbearable and cause another economic blow to the area.
Got this in an E-mail from one of my old regular GDP's. Brought a tear to my eye. LOLLooks like....Help. Recognize the DJ booth, and balcony.
Poucolouco
03-03-10, 16:03
Got this in an E-mail from one of my old regular GDP's. Brought a tear to my eye. LOL
Here is the stripped facade. The building is being dismantled piece-by-piece with a salvage operation trucking useable materials away.
Jamaicanceo
03-03-10, 21:51
here is the stripped facade. the building is being dismantled piece-by-piece with a salvage operation trucking useable materials away.
for the sake of helpee rumors that never stop: i heard before the building was torn down that there were old helpee mongers and gdp sneaking into the empty building to having sex for the memories, and the girls charged r800.00. lol!
for the sake of helpee rumors that never stop: i heard before the building was torn down that there were old helpee mongers and gdp sneaking into the empty building to having sex for the memories, and the girls charged r800.00. lol!lol that's funny ish!!!
so is it true? is helpee really closing? (end sarcasm)
on a serious note; has anyone been to termas rio antigo or aeroporto lately? if so how was the talent?
Those of you who love it when the bars and termas are rocking really missed out if you weren't in Rio this past weekend. An American Navy ship was in port.
Yeah I was there. The bastards ruined my weekend.
I went to Mone Carlo and had left within 10 minutes. There were more dudes that dudettes 3:1, and there was wait for cabine for an hour.
I then went to Luomo, and I couldn't even get in. There was a line wiht 4-5 guys standing at the door :(.
Never seen that before.
SlimHoleDrill
03-05-10, 02:12
Yeah I was there. The bastards ruined my weekend.
I went to Mone Carlo and had left within 10 minutes. There were more dudes that dudettes 3:1, and there was wait for cabine for an hour.
I then went to Luomo, and I couldn't even get in. There was a line wiht 4-5 guys standing at the door :(.
Never seen that before.
I first went to 22 and paid without looking. Inside there were about 10 drunk sailors in the process of getting ushered (almost thrown) out. All the girls had disappeared. I thought maybe they were busy but waited around long enough to see that was not it. I guess they didn't like the scene.
So, nothing there and I left to try MC. There was a big crowd of sailors around the door so I just turned around and went to Luomo with the vain hope that it was not discovered. HA!
As you say, there were a bunch of people outside but I was out of options so decided to hang around. Sandra saw me and motioned I should wait. I got in in a few minutes. The problem was they couldn't handle the flux of guys coming in and leaving. There was room in the boite.
Just imagine a bunch of drunk teenagers coming out of that place. Some don't have enough money so they are trying to get it from others. Some want to argue about their bill. Others are looking for buddies. Others are hanging around outside trying not to puke or pass out. They even brought lady sailors, but just standing outside.
Just a mess.
Inside, I quickly hooked up with an old flame and after we got a drink I told her to get in the queue. She came back and said there were 3 in front of us and pointed out 3 different young guys. But she said she told them who it was.
Next thing I know another girl comes out with a message and we are on! I guess I have the gold card now and got priority booking.
The next night was worse so I won't go into it.
All I can say was it was REALLY different. And not for the better. It didn't totally ruin my weekend but close.
SlimHoleDrill
03-05-10, 20:11
Fellas, best place fOr mulattas?
Termas Etc..
21
31
65
73
81
116
191
502
4x4
Aeroporto
Âncora do Recreio
Aquárius
Beach Girls
Black House
Cancun
Caribean Queen
Centaurus
Coquettish
Correia Dutra
Excentric
Jacarepaguá
L´Uomo
La Palace
Monte Carlo
no Centro de Niterói
Rio Antigo
Sol de Ipanema
Solarium
Black and White
Boate Flórida
Buena Vista Club
Café 400
Centro de Lazer MV30
Club 117
Club 29
Copacabana Termas Spa
Paris Café
Phoenix
Só Filé e Cia
Whisqueria Orion Café
VM hands Down! Better quality Cheaper price!
Quite an extensive list. I don't know where it came from, but people should be aware that not all of these places may be the kind of place they are looking for. I know of at least one (Sol de Ipanema) that might disappoint. If this is the one at 522 Baron de Torre, it is now called Termas Leblon (or something like that) and I don't think you would find any women in it. Club 117 is another. Just FYI.
Thanks for the list but it would be more useful if the gay places were taken out!
John Cricket
03-06-10, 21:17
Club 117 is another. Just FYI.Club 117 is a gay termas on Cândido Mendes in Gloria, right near the big tranny pick-up point long the Passeio Público.
You might want to be a bit more careful of what you post in the future, Alex.
I too went to Monte Carlo on friday night and it was ground zero for boorish behavior.
Hey I'm all for a little fun but these groups of men, sailors or whomever, were just downright obnoxious to everyone in sight. Learn some *^&%% manners boys.
Naval dockings are not the best time to experience the termas love. Obviously.
Careful?
Why are you posting gay clubs and termas here.
Isn't there a forum rule against that?
"No Discussion about Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that refers to Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males. This website is about sex between men who were always men and women who were always women."
Lewis Kerr
03-07-10, 14:53
07/03/10
Rio. How can such a really ace place go to s**t in a matter of only a few years
The place is all rip of now, bars, girls, taxis, food.
Once they realise that they can't keep ripping us off the world cup is going to arrive and it will give them another few years
So angry with the place just now as I lie on my bed wondering where has it all gone wrong
Before anyone starts I've been coming here for the last 5 years, sometimes bi-annually and I know how it works. But there is a massive change and I dnt think I'll be back for long time! Thailand seem so appealing just now.
Smokers Rule
03-07-10, 18:32
When do the sailors leave? I hate massive invasions like this. I was in town last year when the Harley people came to town...
Jamaicanceo
03-07-10, 19:30
Careful?
Why are you posting gay clubs and termas here.
Isn't there a forum rule against that?
"No Discussion about Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that refers to Homosexuals, Transvestites, Transsexuals or She-Males. This website is about sex between men who were always men and women who were always women."I do not think he intentionally posted the gay info. He just thought the list were all girl locations. Give him a break!
This type of rude behavior from the sailors may have left some girls hurt or, at least, angry.
What a shame!
When do the sailors leave? I hate massive invasions like this. I was in town last year when the Harley people came to town...
Cut the sailors some slack. They've been cooped up for months in a bunk bed with 5 other guys snoring and farting and they've had saltpeter put in their food, and they'll be going back to that same situation for a few more weeks or months very shortly. I think anyone would go hog wild in a place like Rio under such circumstances. They'll be gone shortly and things will be back to normal.
Smokers Rule
03-08-10, 02:39
Yes, understandable. I just wish they could come ashore in smaller groups :) haha
Exec Talent
03-08-10, 06:34
07/03/10
Rio. How can such a really ace place go to s**t in a matter of only a few years
The place is all rip of now, bars, girls, taxis, food.
Once they realise that they can't keep ripping us off the world cup is going to arrive and it will give them another few years
So angry with the place just now as I lie on my bed wondering where has it all gone wrong
Before anyone starts I've been coming here for the last 5 years, sometimes bi-annually and I know how it works. But there is a massive change and I dnt think I'll be back for long time! Thailand seem so appealing just now.
Lewis,
Your information is very valuable to many of us. If you have a chance, could you take a few minutes and post again with some specifics of your recent experiences. Thanks!
Yes, understandable. I just wish they could come ashore in smaller groups :) hahaThey will be coming back in smaller groups: when they get done milking the tit and start collecting their pensions, some will wash up in Brazil. After 20 years in the military, *****mongering is all they will know how to do. I was in Hong Kong once when the Nimitz docked, can't nothing compare to that.
Lewis Kerr
03-08-10, 15:47
I've just had the best night I've had in Rio, can't believe how upset I got. I'm so fickle but faith has been restored, balconny bar. 2 girls onto vips. 8 hours later exhausted and totally satisfied, these two young girls were absolutely up for it! All I had was a video camera and a pair of hot pants each with my photo agency name printed on them! They loved it
48 hour grin. Hahaha 48 year grin more like it
Can't believe I forgot that Rio always has something extra special.
SlimHoleDrill
03-08-10, 16:55
Yes, understandable. I just wish they could come ashore in smaller groups :) haha
Indeed. Look, I know why they do it, I just don't enjoy daling with it. Except for the waiting list, it realy was not so bad inside. As far as the girls, I mentioned that one complained, but I am sure many liked it because they made out like bandits. Quick turnaround I guess.
They sailed last Monday so no problem now. They were mostly nice kids individually. Just too many.
Tar Heel Bred
03-08-10, 20:14
Went to Rio in mid Jan.
Went to regular clubs first and if by 12 or 1 am I didn't swoop some females I went to this place on the main drag in Copa, it had like a bar with a tent outside. Lots of people, and girls there to potentially make some money.
This was my first time to Rio, I'm a 23 yr old American. From my experience alot of these chicks were not conventional hookers. Many would not even approach a guy. I went there 4 nights. First night just scoped it out and got a feel for it. The other nights I talked to females and got them to come back to my apartment for free, one of them even cooked for me the next day LOL. Some other older Americans that where there couldn't believe I was getting multiple girls to fuck for free. I didn't know what a thermal was and never went to one. I'll probably check one out next time I go to Rio.
Anyways, that was my experience, thought I would share it.
Some other older Americans that where there couldn't believe I was getting multiple girls to fuck for free. I didn't know what a thermal was and never went to one. I'll probably check one out next time I go to Rio.
Are you sure you are posting on the correct website?
The spot you missed are called "Termas", hey maybe you can get a free session there too!
Tar Heel Bred
03-08-10, 20:29
Are you sure you are posting on the correct website?
The spot you missed are called "Termas", hey maybe you can get a free session there too!I highly doubt I can get a free session in a termas lol Not even sure if Brad Pitt could pull that off.
The termas prices ive seen on this forum are alot higher than the one guys were telling me about where you pay by the minute, im pretty sure they said 1 real per minute.
Went to Rio in mid Jan.
Went to regular clubs first and if by 12 or 1 am I didn't swoop some females I went to this place on the main drag in Copa, it had like a bar with a tent outside. Lots of people, and girls there to potentially make some money.
This was my first time to Rio, I'm a 23 yr old American. From my experience alot of these chicks were not conventional hookers. Many would not even approach a guy. I went there 4 nights. First night just scoped it out and got a feel for it. The other nights I talked to females and got them to come back to my apartment for free, one of them even cooked for me the next day LOL. Some other older Americans that where there couldn't believe I was getting multiple girls to fuck for free. I didn't know what a thermal was and never went to one. I'll probably check one out next time I go to Rio.
Anyways, that was my experience, thought I would share it.This is a hilarious post. I guess he thinks we're his friends back home and not experienced mongers who've been to Rio.
John Cricket
03-09-10, 06:00
They will be coming back in smaller groups: when they get done milking the tit and start collecting their pensions, some will wash up in Brazil. After 20 years in the military, *****mongering is all they will know how to do. I was in Hong Kong once when the Nimitz docked, can't nothing compare to that.I was in Rio when the Ronald Reagan came to town. 5000 sailor boys and girls on the Copa strip, stewed to the gills and looking for sex. My favorite memory was of three drunk sailor women running after some t-shirt sales malandro, giggling their asses off. Even the malandros were watching their backs that night!
I highly doubt I can get a free session in a termas lol Not even sure if Brad Pitt could pull that off.
The termas prices ive seen on this forum are alot higher than the one guys were telling me about where you pay by the minute, im pretty sure they said 1 real per minute.
Yeah, 1R a minute or less. But if you go back you will see most people who posted original info have stopped posting. Now it's mostly posts by people who have no interest in the Brasil way of life, they want the tourist experience with neon-lit American hoe-house, white sheets and aircon, selling burgers and pussy, where they can talk loud, slap their thighs shouting, "hot dang," and so on. Quite frankly, if Rio is drying up for them I am not really sad. I see the damage that western culture has and has had on so many countries round the world. I love Brasil and Brasilian people, stay there several months of the year, learn much from them, and always have the time of my life there, every year. For me, the scene has not changed, and any price difference from the economic downturn is nominal or non-existent. The variety of the women and the quality of the P4P sex is for me probably the best in the world. If you live and respect the culture, live like locals, there is no reason why you can't have the same. If you just want cheap pussy on a plate and your brain on hold, maybe get a 'connecting' flight to Angeles City or Pattaya or somewhere. Just cos this board has many people constantly whining without making any real effort, doesn't mean it is an indicator of Brasil. Maybe they like to whine. Maybe they like to feel they have lots of 'buddies' on here. Personally I respect you all but don't need you as my buddy based on your desire to sleep with prostitutes. In any civilised country, procuring sexual services effectively in times of need is a detail, like getting your laundry or having the milk delivered at the back door. Gentlemen not finding what they need for the weekend should find a different barber. Whining about the state of your bald patch just makes the club intolerable for the rest of us, who are actually very well sorted, thank you very much.
Now it's mostly posts by people who have no interest in the Brasil way of life, they want the tourist experience with neon-lit American hoe-house, white sheets and aircon, selling burgers and pussy, where they can talk loud, slap their thighs shouting, "hot dang," and so on. Quite frankly, if Rio is drying up for them I am not really sad.Até que enfim! Well said Chris. Brazilian way of life and people couldn't be missed. Learn portuguese! Um abraço.
U.
SlimHoleDrill
03-09-10, 17:04
I was in Rio when the Ronald Reagan came to town. 5000 sailor boys and girls on the Copa strip, stewed to the gills and looking for sex. My favorite memory was of three drunk sailor women running after some t-shirt sales malandro, giggling their asses off. Even the malandros were watching their backs that night!
Similar experience with the Abraham Lincoln. It was the maiden voyage. I remember there was a terrific storm one night and I was sitting in one of the restaurants on Atlantica watching these boys buy the girls beers but nothing was happening. One of the gdps just looked at me and shrugged so I took on of the guys aside and asked him what did they have in mind. He said maybe the girls would go dancing with them?
I told him look. this is not high school. You can take one of these girls home with you right now if you want. Just ask them! That changed everything. LOL. Charming.
I think only Rio can handle that kind of crowd. The GDP network swung into action and they had reinforcements from all over spread out in cafes and bars. This time, the boys seemed to be concentrated in Copa thermas. Too bad help closed. That would have softned the impact some.
I think the Lincoln was built under Reagan so that must have been the late 80s?
Cell phones have been available to the average brasilians for what, about 10 years now? Why dont they have call plans in rio they way they do in the states? Why cant Claro, Tim, Oi, VIVO all have plans where you have free nights and weekends. I am spending fortune in minutes because NONE of the girls can keep credits on thier phone, so they all call collect. After 10 plus years, there is no reason why they cant have better cell phone service in rio. I jjust dont understand.
Jamaicanceo
03-09-10, 22:30
Cell phones have been available to the average brasilians for what, about 10 years now? Why don't they have call plans in Rio they way they do in the states? Why can't Claro, Tim, Oi, VIVO all have plans where you have free nights and weekends. I am spending fortune in minutes because NONE of the girls can keep credits on thier phone, so they all call collect. After 10 plus years, there is no reason why they can't have better cell phone service in Rio. I jjust don't understand.There is more money in failure. Plenty of people are making money by keeping Brazil primitive in many aspects of technology. And cellphone minutes versus plans is one of those profitable failures.
Crusader560
03-10-10, 05:39
That was funny. I love the fact that they have free incoming local and international calls. But as for your answer, maybe you should invest in walkie talkies.
Cell phones have been available to the average brasilians for what, about 10 years now? Why dont they have call plans in rio they way they do in the states? Why cant Claro, Tim, Oi, VIVO all have plans where you have free nights and weekends. I am spending fortune in minutes because NONE of the girls can keep credits on thier phone, so they all call collect. After 10 plus years, there is no reason why they cant have better cell phone service in rio. I jjust dont understand.
As a matter of fact they do.
I have a plan from Oi that has 3 cellphones, fixed phone and 8 meg internet for R$ 229.
500 minutes for any number with cellphones. Calling between the cells/fixed free.
Pretty good plan.
Just that ho's simply can't get this kind of plans. You need to proof your income.
Also when Oi started service, they promised free weekends for first subscribers for 99 years (if I remember correctly). Those numbers are worth a lot money today.
Also, the cellphone penetration in Brasil is very low. There is no need to lower the prices, people will use the services anyway. Actually Brasil has second most expensive cell services in the world.
I can understand the operators, why lower the prices when you can charge almost anything.
Thanks to the guys who responded via PM to my recent request for assistance regarding luxury Apartments...
Thanks 3.jpg (76.4 KB, 960 views)I remember that Karla Model!
-Helpmann :)
As a matter of fact they do.
I have a plan from Oi that has 3 cellphones, fixed phone and 8 meg internet for R$ 229.
500 minutes for any number with cellphones. Calling between the cells/fixed free.
Pretty good plan.
Just that ho's simply can't get this kind of plans. You need to proof your income.
Also when Oi started service, they promised free weekends for first subscribers for 99 years (if I remember correctly). Those numbers are worth a lot money today.
Also, the cellphone penetration in Brasil is very low. There is no need to lower the prices, people will use the services anyway. Actually Brasil has second most expensive cell services in the world.
I can understand the operators, why lower the prices when you can charge almost anything.Invest in magic jack!
Is it ok to pay the cover charge at a terma like 4x4 have a few drinks and flirt around for a few hours than leave. I have an intimacy fetish so I go around giving out foot massages and neck rubs, to the beauties. Pay the 40 or so dollars and leave.
Gfe Finder
03-11-10, 23:38
Is it ok to pay the cover charge at a terma like 4x4 have a few drinks and flirt around for a few hours than leave. I have an intimacy fetish so I go around giving out foot massages and neck rubs, to the beauties. Pay the 40 or so dollars and leave.
it may not be a good idea. I have seen and Bubba Boy's guide mentions that the locals (particularly at 4x4) are often there to cop a feel rather than session.
There is a chance that they'll enjoy the "just massage and neckrubs" but these ladies are there to work at a job first and foremost.
With that said, word gets around fast about who the "good" (i.e. paying) customers are and aren't. If you try this and don't session, you may be shunned by the girls.
Heartbreak Kid
03-12-10, 03:27
Have been reading the Rio forum and am just wondering now that Help is gone, where did the GDP's go? Are they still at Ho Beach in front of Meia Pataca, or the Orthon Palace? Am here for one more day and am hoping to have a little fun before leaving.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Is it ok to pay the cover charge at a terma like 4x4 have a few drinks and flirt around for a few hours than leave. I have an intimacy fetish so I go around giving out foot massages and neck rubs, to the beauties. Pay the 40 or so dollars and leave.Yeah, you can def do that.
Unless you plan on doing 3 times a week getting labled will not be a problem.
Smokers Rule
03-12-10, 22:08
I have been at the Balcony Bar the past 2 nights. I think the majority of the girls went here. Literally EVERY girl I talked to said she was a former Help girl. Also, I have seen a number of girls I remember from Help, from low-end to high-end. Even the lady that used to sell gum at the TA has moved to Balcony!
On a side note, two different girls told me last night that rumor is that a replacement Help/place like Help will be opening near the Meridian hotel. I highly doubt this is the case, but that's what two separate girls told me is the rumor.
Have been reading the Rio forum and am just wondering now that Help is gone, where did the GDP's go? Are they still at Ho Beach in front of Meia Pataca, or the Orthon Palace? Am here for one more day and am hoping to have a little fun before leaving.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Brazil Specialist
03-12-10, 23:33
Cell phones have been available to the average brasilians for what, about 10 years now? Why dont they have call plans in rio they way they do in the states? Why cant Claro, Tim, Oi, VIVO all have plans where you have free nights and weekends. I am spending fortune in minutes because NONE of the girls can keep credits on thier phone, so they all call collect. After 10 plus years, there is no reason why they cant have better cell phone service in rio. I jjust dont understand.
Most plans are only on a yearly basis for residents with proof of residence, income etc.
BUT
every phone company has some pre-paid perk. But the trick is: you have to sign up for it to earn it.
Tim has:
pay only first minute of a call to Tim or landline phone, about 25 or 50 cents, and talk as long as you want
Vivo has
load a cell phone card and earn hundreds of free minutes to Vivo (or land lines)
Claro has something similar ......
Basically free minutes to the same phone company
Some people have several phone company's phones for that reason, so they get a good plan for everyone.
The problem is that nowadays you can freely transfer your number to other phone companies. So you cannot be sure by the prefix to figure out the phone company of the recipient of your call ......
Even the lady that used to sell gum at the TA has moved to Balcony!
"'Chee-klay....Chee-klay!"
She needs a part in the next Six Feet Under HBO series!
Brazil Specialist
03-13-10, 14:32
Is it ok to pay the cover charge at a terma like 4x4 have a few drinks and flirt around for a few hours than leave. I have an intimacy fetish so I go around giving out foot massages and neck rubs, to the beauties. Pay the 40 or so dollars and leave.
Well, girls don't like this at all
They call it "pentelho" (pubic hair). Someone that hangs around and never fucks.
You can take her to the back room for 200 Reais and give her more neck rubs there, in a very intimate private setting. Then they would not object. Even if you neckrub 4 girls and take only one up, that still would be within limits.
Basically, don't you just want to save money?
These girls are friendly so they convince you to go to the room and pay up. They usually are not there to get neck rubs. People like this make girls end up being unfriendly, because they don't see no point in being friendly and wasting their time.
Of course, you can be plain honest. Say you are not going out with her but want to give her a neck rub. Or tell her you want to give her a neck rub and then give her R$ 20 for her 10 minutes she spent with you.
You could go to cheaper places where you don't mind paying even without sex. I can show you plenty of places for R$ 25 or so. If you hang out with the girl for 10 minutes after the end of the program, and take her to the back room for 20 minutes just to give her a neck rub, she will not object.
So the answer is: you can do this but you are abusing the system and the girls' trust. Unless if you cann pull this through being perfectly honest (I saw a guy like that, but he was the total pickup talent and could sweet talk anyone.)
Brazil Specialist
03-13-10, 14:35
I remember that Karla Model!
-Helpmann :)
finally a pretty girl I wish I had done. Very nice photos!
Exec Talent
03-13-10, 17:03
I can show you plenty of places for R$ 25 or so.
So stop talking about it and do it. Where are all these places for R$25? Or does someone have to rent that shithole of a room in your apartment first?
Exec Talent
03-13-10, 17:16
Looking cheap and unsafe. Stood outside Balcony last night with my hands in my pockets. Not sure if it was the street urchins or the older roaming drug dealers that gave me the creeps more. All the girls wanted to talk about was the hope of a new place opening up (and that they really worked at Barbarella) as if to apologize for being seen at Balcony.
Balcony used to be a good place to pickup a gem or two, but now it reminds me of Vila Mimosa, but without the charm and with the Balcony girls asking R$150 - R$200 for an hour.
I was leavimg MP the other night when two stunners strolled in, took one look and left. The ex GDP that was with me even commented that they were a bit chique for MP, they looked like a couple of regular girls on a night out. We were strolling up towards Constante Ramos discussing what a poor girl was to do hoje em dia and the two girls were not far behind us and were scoping the bars along the way. We stopped to cross to one of the quiosques and spotted that they had stopped a couple of gringos and were happily trying to ply their trade.
There are plenty of gorgeous girls plying their trade between MP and Balcony but they are not all obviously dressed for action. However I have heard plenty of complaints already from women who have been accosted by gringoes that cannot tell the difference between a girl dressed in sports clothes caminhando and a streetwalker.
Closing Help appears to have made Rio less safe for the ordinary girl going about her daily buisiness.
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I love Açai. I am the Açai specialist. Best place is Bibi Sucos Leblon, Copacabana, etc. There is an even better place in Flamengo for the specialists who has the REAL pure strong Açai straight from Belem. Tacaca do Norte, across from Hotel Barão de Flamengo. But it is not cold, smoothy like, but much more concentrated. Oh, this is near scort show agency, where you can see the book and the new girls on a street corner if you made an appointment.
Personally, I have trained some juice bars to make Açai for me with "menos xarope" or "sem xarope", less guaraná sirup or none. I think the regular stuff is too sweet. No sirup needs to get a small serving of sirup to add it yourself.
Granola is best as a topping on the side, you sprinkle it yourself. Banana also is best as slices on the side.You're an 'acai specialist. '? For anyone who wants to try the real product in Copacabana, there's a small restaurant between Siq Campos and Fig Malgahaes (closer to Fig Malg) on the small street between NS Copacabana and Avenida Atlantica. Proprietors are from Belem, they have a Belem menu and foodstuffs, and Acai. You won't have to 'train' them how to make it. Try it. Has a natural viagra effect, too.
Arrived in Rio recently, took the new U.S. Air flight from Charlotte NC, Newark NJ to Charlotte first class they gave me a bag of chips, the flight attendants looked like cleaning ladies. Charlotte to Rio was envoy class, great new seats that stretch out flat, the filet I wouldn't serve to my dog, the Flight attendant could have been as old as my Mother and no personality at all, one word answers. Arrived 1/2 early, nice smooth flight.
Friday night my night started out in the Marriott hotel for a couple of beers, at the tables it was pretty obvious that some GDP's were sitting with clients but were dressed fine. Then I turn around and 2 very well dressed beautiful girls are sitting next to me. We start chatting, at first I wasn’t sure if they were GDP’s but the one girl said she recognized me from Help so that was it. They wanted 300 reais apiece for a festa, I told them 200 a piece but then negotiations broke down. They told me that they never would go to Balcony and that they are there every weekend.
I moved on to the Balcony bar, its almost 1 am now, place is packed, reminds me of TA but much more intense and aggressive, I took a stroll around and chatted with some Help girls about what a shame this world is coming to. I went upstairs to Dolce Vita, music was playing so that was good, girls were nicer in general than in Balcony but my tastes were high now after the 2 girls in the Marriott, so I went back down to Balcony, asked the bouncers in Dolce vita if I could come back if I want and they said yes but I never did. One more quick stroll around Balcony came across 2 tiny cousins with tattoos all over offering a festa for 150 reais each. I moved on.
Ended up in Barbarellas, the waiter asked me what I wanted, I told him a beer, he told me no beer here, so I ordered Black Label, he seemed to like that. For the next hour all the available beauties sat down at my table and offered 500 reais, one came down to 350 reais, I told her 300 but she left. Then finally I see a cute blond, we went for a smoke, I said to her can you come with me for 300 reais , she said yes. All around good stuff, BBBJ, DATY DFK. She told me the night before she went to the Sheraton with an American for less than 1 hour for 500 reais, sad.
Also during the day I had Tamara come over from CIA Plus escorts, 100 reais plus taxi fro an hour, she didn’t look as good as her pictures but nice big real breasts, great sex, really nice fun girl we had some laughs, worth every penny. The girl from Barbarella was much nice looking but this girl from CIA was a much better value
Tiradentes
03-14-10, 04:20
There are plenty of gorgeous girls plying their trade between MP and Balcony but they are not all obviously dressed for action. However I have heard plenty of complaints already from women who have been accosted by gringoes that cannot tell the difference between a girl dressed in sports clothes caminhando and a streetwalker.
Stupid gringos!
If RJ outlaws the 'fun' action in the future, we have no one but ourselves to blame.
Jamaicanceo
03-14-10, 08:05
I took these pictures during my January-February 2010 Rio trip. I took them fast so I wouldn't get noticed taking them. Sorry that one is blurry, but you might get the jest of how crowded Balcony gets.
I called a non pro friend I have in Rio and asked her if she wanted to go to a swing club with me Saturday night, she told me she was sick, so I went to Hotside and found this GDP who said she would go with me. When I met her at 11 PM in a hotel bar in Copacabana I was ready to run away, she was totally not my type but I stuck it out because it was late and at least with her I could get inside the club.
When we got there she obviously new the bouncers and bartenders. We sat and had a few drinks in the bar area, I asker her is she liked girls, she said yes and men too. I was checking out her body, she goes to the gym everyday, her legs were like cables, her shoulders and arms were massive, not an ounce of fat on her, face had some age, not very beautiful but she certainly took real good care of herself.
Finally we went upstairs to the swing rooms and many young guys loved her and their girlfriends, she was a big hit. We started out on this big bed area must have been six couples just intermingled, everybody was all over her, the more that were attracted to her the better for me. Beautiful girls were coming over to suck her bucetta and I was banging them from behind, guys were coming over for her and I was all over their girlfriends. I’m not sure even if I had sex with her but I must banged 5 girls because of her and had as many as 5 BBBJ.
At one time she put on a show pole dancing, she was magnificent, everyone was looking at her, women were coming up to her and just wanted to touch her and it was fine by me, I told her she was a real pro, going to do this again with her real soon.
Video of Help being dismantled I took yesterday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD6Jn7Ftrgg
Finally we went upstairs to the swing rooms and many young guys loved her and their girlfriends, she was a big hit. We started out on this big bed area must have been six couples just intermingled, everybody was all over her, the more that were attracted to her the better for me. Beautiful girls were coming over to suck her bucetta and I was banging them from behind, guys were coming over for her and I was all over their girlfriends. I’m not sure even if I had sex with her but I must banged 5 girls because of her and had as many as 5 BBBJ.
At one time she put on a show pole dancing, she was magnificent, everyone was looking at her, women were coming up to her and just wanted to touch her and it was fine by me, I told her she was a real pro, going to do this again with her real soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD6Jn7FtrggYou are livin' it large man.
Stay safe.
...Finally we went upstairs to the swing rooms and many young guys loved her and their girlfriends, she was a big hit. We started out on this big bed area must have been six couples just intermingled, everybody was all over her, the more that were attracted to her the better for me. Beautiful girls were coming over to suck her bucetta and I was banging them from behind, guys were coming over for her and I was all over their girlfriends. I’m not sure even if I had sex with her but I must banged 5 girls because of her and had as many as 5 BBBJ.
At one time she put on a show pole dancing, she was magnificent, everyone was looking at her, women were coming up to her and just wanted to touch her and it was fine by me, I told her she was a real pro, going to do this again with her real soon...I have been to 2a2 with a couple of pros before, but I have never had that kind of experience. Who was the pro from Hotside that you took?
-Helpmann :)
Speaking of swing clubs - I went to Festa 18A on Mar 4th. It's located in Centro, at Club Mix, Rua do Mercado, 25 – Praça XV. Every Thursday night is swing night.
Couples - No cover until 9p, after 9p: R$ 50,00.
Free access to VIP Area for couples and single ladies.
Single ladies - No cover all night + R$ 25,00 bonus for beer or soft drinks.
Single Men – R$ 80,00 until 9p; R$ 100,00 until 11p; R$ 130,00 after 11p.
On their website, it states they limit the amount of single men allowed in, in order to maintain a good ratio to the couples, and that single men should call in and reserve a spot. NOT TRUE!! I got there about 10p, There were more guys then gals.
Club Mix has 5 floors. Upon entering, you pay the cover and are given a card for your drinks. (Pay for the drinks prior to exiting the club.) The first floor is a small dance floor with a bar in the back. There was a live band playing. It was packed! Lots of guys. Some single women in groups, some couples sitting on the side.
Access to the other floors is granted when the band ends their set, at about 12a.
The second floor has a closed room, where one can see inside through a screened window. During the night, I saw two couples playing in there, putting on a show. The rest of the second floor is couples and single women only
Third floor: another dance floor, setup like a disco, with DJ booth. It has a small stage area with stripper poles. This is where they have their shows. Saw a woman give some guy a BJ there.
Also co-ed bathroom and lockers on this floor. At around 1a, they turn off the light for a grope fest. 2a they have female strippers, 3a male strippers.
Fourth floor: As you get off the stairwell, there are 2 rooms, both have shower stalls. The room on the left is all enclosed. I missed a gang bang in the left room. (Got there after it ended.) When I got there, a couples was finishing entertaining a group of guys in the room on the right. This room has a glass wall, so one can look in.
The rest of the floor is roped off, couples, single women only. BTW, these couples only areas have security to prevent single guys from entering.
Fifth floor is the terrace with a bar.
During the night, I kept returning to the fourth floor, as couples rotate out of those rooms. In order to play, one needs to be invited or go in with the group, as I did. There was a couple, with a very attractive wife playing in the glass walled room. Based on what she was saying, it may have been her first time. She only wanted one guy at a time, and did not want to suck any guys. I was just waiting my turn. But as luck would have it, (bad,) one guy tried to go in her back door, and that soured the wife, and ended the festa, as the Husband stated.
I've been to 2a2 once, many years ago. I remember that club as being too small and filled with middle aged or older Cariocas. Festa18 is bigger, with a younger crowed, mid 20's to late 30's. It's full of fit, and young Brazilian guys. Speaking Portuguese well is a must.
At the end of the night, the 6 beers I drank, cost me $R36.
I had wanted to meet Alice Gouveia, she's a Hot blonde who supposedly puts these "parties" together. Sadly, she was not there that night. You can see her pics and pics of the Mar 4th party at:
http://festa18a.********.com/?zx=7c584545fb6daacb
replace asterisks with "b l o g spot"
(The Mar 4th pics are at the bottom third of the page.)
More info:
http://www.fantasiasdecasados.com.br/fc.html
http://www.clubmixbar.com.br/
Maybe next time I do like Sangue Bon and take a GDP with me. How much THAT cost ya, Sangue?
I have been to 2a2 with a couple of pros before, but I have never had that kind of experience. Who was the pro from Hotside that you took?
-Helpmann :)
I'm sorry, I realize I left that out but give me a couple of days and I will post her info.
I've been to 2a2 once, many years ago. I remember that club as being too small and filled with middle aged or older Cariocas.
Maybe next time I do like Sangue Bon and take a GDP with me. How much THAT cost ya, Sangue?
You're right but it's mixed, most of the girls I was with were between mid 20's and mid 30's and that's ok with me but as you say there were others there that were too old but I would say they were in the minority.
I paid this girl 400 reais but in my opinion it was well worth it. Considering it would cost you that in Centaurus for 40 minutes, I banged 5 nice girls plus had a full evening with a show and fun with different people, I had a great time. This is not a cheap night by no means, my girl only had 1 alcohol drink, I drank Black Label and red bull, my tab including cover was 230 reais, so total cost for the night was 630 reais, you only live once, this aint no dress rehearsal.
One thing I learned is with the clothes coming on and off your stuff falls out of your pants pocket, I once lost my tab but the people who worked there went with me through the club and found it, I was amazed, I just ended up losing 6 very good condoms from the US and a pen so pretty much nothing, last year I lost my glasses. Fortunately I put my phone in a locker otherwise that would have been gone too. My wallet has a chain attached to it so I didn't lose that and I don't like to leave that in a locker considering the amont of money I had with me, I bought the wallet from a website that I think Christopherd posted once for travelling safes and things like that, it was a good find.
Jamaicanceo
03-14-10, 21:49
you only live once, this aint no dress rehearsal. I had a tough year this past year in business but ended up on a real high note so I am treating myself for getting through it and being OK..Cheers to you as a fellow business man. I've never seen an armored car following a dead man's hearst to his grave. Enjoy your life, because we only live once.
I'm sorry, I realize I left that out but give me a couple of days and I will post her info.I would appreciate it.
Thanks,
Helpmann :)
Speaking of swing clubs - I went to Festa 18A on Mar 4th. It's located in Centro, at Club Mix, Rua do Mercado, 25 – Praça XV. Every Thursday night is swing night...I have never heard of this place. Thanks for the detailed description.
Thanks,
Helpmann :)
Arrived in Rio recently, took the new U.S. Air flight from Charlotte NC, Newark NJ to Charlotte first class they gave me a bag of chips, the flight attendants looked like cleaning ladies. Charlotte to Rio was envoy class, great new seats that stretch out flat, the filet I wouldn't serve to my dog, the Flight attendant could have been as old as my Mother and no personality at all, one word answers. Arrived 1/2 early, nice smooth flight.
Friday night my night started out in the Marriott hotel for a couple of beers, at the tables it was pretty obvious that some GDP's were sitting with clients but were dressed fine. Then I turn around and 2 very well dressed beautiful girls are sitting next to me. We start chatting, at first I wasn’t sure if they were GDP’s but the one girl said she recognized me from Help so that was it. They wanted 300 reais apiece for a festa, I told them 200 a piece but then negotiations broke down. They told me that they never would go to Balcony and that they are there every weekend.
I moved on to the Balcony bar, its almost 1 am now, place is packed, reminds me of TA but much more intense and aggressive, I took a stroll around and chatted with some Help girls about what a shame this world is coming to. I went upstairs to Dolce Vita, music was playing so that was good, girls were nicer in general than in Balcony but my tastes were high now after the 2 girls in the Marriott, so I went back down to Balcony, asked the bouncers in Dolce vita if I could come back if I want and they said yes but I never did. One more quick stroll around Balcony came across 2 tiny cousins with tattoos all over offering a festa for 150 reais each. I moved on.
Ended up in Barbarellas, the waiter asked me what I wanted, I told him a beer, he told me no beer here, so I ordered Black Label, he seemed to like that. For the next hour all the available beauties sat down at my table and offered 500 reais, one came down to 350 reais, I told her 300 but she left. Then finally I see a cute blond, we went for a smoke, I said to her can you come with me for 300 reais , she said yes. All around good stuff, BBBJ, DATY DFK. She told me the night before she went to the Sheraton with an American for less than 1 hour for 500 reais, sad.
Also during the day I had Tamara come over from CIA Plus escorts, 100 reais plus taxi fro an hour, she didn’t look as good as her pictures but nice big real breasts, great sex, really nice fun girl we had some laughs, worth every penny. The girl from Barbarella was much nice looking but this girl from CIA was a much better valueYou said you took the new US Air flight from NC to Newark to Ro, what is that a special price deal?
You said you took the new US Air flight from NC to Newark to Ro, what is that a special price deal?
Thad, sorry maybe I wasn't clear, the flight went from Newark to Charlotte NC to Rio. No special price but competively priced, the flight arrive at 9:45 AM 1/2 hour early. Thanks.
...One thing I learned is with the clothes coming on and off your stuff falls out of your pants pocket......
Just curious: why do your clothes keep coming on and off? Why can't you take them off and keep them off?
I have never been to 2a2 or any other swing club, but now you have whetted my curiosity. From your description, it reminds me of Plato's Retreat. Anyone remember that? It was the hot spot in NYC in the late 70s-early 80s until AIDS came along, prompting the health department to shut it down.
I'll be in Rio for a few days in April and will try to get a GDP I am still in contact with, who doesn't look like a GDP, to go with me. Of course, a report will follow if it happens.
Just curious: why do your clothes keep coming on and off? Why can't you take them off and keep them off?
I have never been to 2a2 or any other swing club, but now you have whetted my curiosity. From your description, it reminds me of Plato's Retreat. Anyone remember that? It was the hot spot in NYC in the late 70s-early 80s until AIDS came along, prompting the health department to shut it down.
Most people keep their clothes with them. Platos Retreat had lockers to hang your clothes up if you wish and walk around with a towel on, it doesn't seem to be the case in this place. A good friend who I ran into here yesterday was a good friend of Larry the owner of Platos, I gave him my copy of the movie American Swing a documentary just made last year about Platos, he was interviewed for the movie but refused to be in it, we watched it together yesterday, I knew some of the people in the movie, he knew most of them.
Mongering places in Copacabana:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riJ3UfZ1mAk
Most people keep their clothes with them. Platos Retreat had lockers to hang your clothes up if you wish and walk around with a towel on, it doesn't seem to be the case in this place. A good friend who I ran into here yesterday was a good friend of Larry the owner of Platos, I gave him my copy of the movie American Swing a documentary just made last year about Platos, he was interviewed for the movie but refused to be in it, we watched it together yesterday, I knew some of the people in the movie, he knew most of them.
Mongering places in Copacabana:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riJ3UfZ1mAkSan,
Do you have any youtube video in centro showing footage of 4x4 and other spots?
Jamaicanceo
03-15-10, 21:28
I still do not understand why mongers pay the Barbarella girls so much money. I see them in Balcony or the Pussycat strip club, and they fit end. I het girls at these places want R150.00 for a few hours each time, and if I give taxi money they stay later to all night. So why give the Barbarella girl R500-600?
Jamaicanceo
03-15-10, 22:54
"i'm not working any moore, maybe i come back in october in monte carlo again but now i need breathe a litlle bit. after help no exist one good place for me. i love my life and body!"
a lot of my old helpee girl cell numbers will keep me busy forever.
i see you soon!
Since the gov is trying so hard to clean up rio for the upcoming World Cup and the Olympics, I have a question. Why dont they have police riding the buses in Rio?!!! Almost every single brasilian I have ever met in the past 14 years has been robbed at gun point while riding the bus. WHy the fuck arent there police or armed guards on them? It seems like a very easy way to curb armed robbery in rio.
Unless the powers that be, think that millions of tourist will only take taxis and the metro back and forth for the games, it seems like common sense to do something to stop the muggings on the buses. I have friends who I wont even go visit because I know the road to thier barrio is a bandito hotspot for bus robbery.
Almost every single brasilian I have ever met in the past 14 years has been robbed at gun point while riding the bus... I have friends who I wont even go visit because I know the road to thier barrio is a bandito hotspot for bus robbery.
Speaking about safety, I have been in Rio for a few days, and hoping to do some hobbying at L'Uomo when my meetings are over. But, when walking along the promenade at Ipenama Beach after dinner, my Brazilian hosts got very worried about a couple of guys that they felt were targeting us and made us get on a bus just to avoid being robbed. This was under the lights on a very busy street with lots of people around.
Given that I only speak English and stick out like a sore thumb as a tourist, is going to L'Uomo, even by taxi, safe? Should I go to Monte Carlo instead, since maybe it is easier to locate without walking around Copacabana at night? What's a reasonable time to go to the termas safely?
I'd hate to miss the termas experience since I have hobbied all over the world, but now I'm thinking twice about going.
Thanks, R.
R the man, go to Luomos and MC at any hour, you are safe. Unless you are walking around centro late at night, there really isnt too much safety issues about going to termas.
Since the gov is trying so hard to clean up rio for the upcoming World Cup and the Olympics, I have a question. Why dont they have police riding the buses in Rio?!!! Almost every single brasilian I have ever met in the past 14 years has been robbed at gun point while riding the bus. WHy the fuck arent there police or armed guards on them? It seems like a very easy way to curb armed robbery in rio.
Unless the powers that be, think that millions of tourist will only take taxis and the metro back and forth for the games, it seems like common sense to do something to stop the muggings on the buses. I have friends who I wont even go visit because I know the road to thier barrio is a bandito hotspot for bus robbery.
Rio's a big city with a very high number of buses, 24hrs. That would be an awful lot of police and an awful lot of money. Some buses do have video installed though. How many Brasilians are you talking about? From my own experience (over a slightly shorter period) it's not nearly as common as that. But then I know a lot of sensible Brasilians who are choosy about which buses they take and when (probably more than I lol).
Rio's a big city with a very high number of buses, 24hrs. That would be an awful lot of police and an awful lot of money. Some buses do have video installed though. How many Brasilians are you talking about? From my own experience (over a slightly shorter period) it's not nearly as common as that. But then I know a lot of sensible Brasilians who are choosy about which buses they take and when (probably more than I lol).
They wouldnt need police on every bus, like everywhere else in the world, there are crime hotspots. There are some routes that are more prone to hijacking, than others. Eventually, the gov will have to do SOMETHING about the situation because they will be hosting two of the biggest events in the world soon! Put a few undercover police on some of the routes, kill a few banditos while they try to rob the bus and the word will get out.
I have seen the cameras on the buses too,not sure how a video camera helps me when a bandito has a gun to my head,. If anything, the video camera just provides footage for the Balanco Geral show. Just last week, I saw footage of a youth walking onto the bus and shooting the driver like 5 times, all he got was the cell phone and money in the drivers pockets, then he ran away. Video camera didnt help the driver but I am sure it helped the ratings on the show.
Exec Talent
03-16-10, 10:59
Since the gov is trying so hard to clean up rio for the upcoming World Cup and the Olympics, I have a question. Why dont they have police riding the buses in Rio?!!! Almost every single brasilian I have ever met in the past 14 years has been robbed at gun point while riding the bus. WHy the fuck arent there police or armed guards on them? It seems like a very easy way to curb armed robbery in rio.
Unless the powers that be, think that millions of tourist will only take taxis and the metro back and forth for the games, it seems like common sense to do something to stop the muggings on the buses. I have friends who I wont even go visit because I know the road to thier barrio is a bandito hotspot for bus robbery.
What you suggest makes perfect sense. However, I can think of one reason to keep the police off the buses. I remember standing in a bank line with a friend and how nervous she got when the money pickup and the accompanying armed guards arrived. She said it was the worst time to be in the bank because there might be a shootout.
I can see this same thing happening on the buses. Police in Rio shoot to get their man. If someone else happens to be in the way, oh well.
Exec Talent
03-16-10, 11:11
R the man, go to Luomos and MC at any hour, you are safe. Unless you are walking around centro late at night, there really isnt too much safety issues about going to termas.
Leaving neither termas late at night is safe. There are taxis immediately outside Monte Carlo and security will walk you from L'uomo to the street to the taxis there. Take them.
I was renting an apartment near MC and thought I would just walk. I was accosted by a gang of five older guys. Four approached from the rear while another ran ahead to block my path. I immediately ran into a hotel and called a taxi.
Given how much you are paying for your termas experience, does it really make sense not to take a taxi? The original poster described himself as a Rio first-timer who only speaks English, he should not think twice about taking taxis.
Leaving neither termas late at night is safe. There are taxis immediately outside Monte Carlo and security will walk you from L'uomo to the street to the taxis there. Take them.
I was renting an apartment near MC and thought I would just walk. I was accosted by a gang of five older guys. Four approached from the rear while another ran ahead to block my path. I immediately ran into a hotel and called a taxi.
Given how much you are paying for your termas experience, does it really make sense not to take a taxi? The original poster described himself as a Rio first-timer who only speaks English, he should not think twice about taking taxis.
Thanks ET. I was intending to take a taxi, but I read that Luomo is in a shopping mall, and I was wondering how secure that might be at night, say about 8-11 pm.
Guess I'll give it a try...
R.
Exec Talent
03-16-10, 22:34
Thanks ET. I was intending to take a taxi, but I read that Luomo is in a shopping mall, and I was wondering how secure that might be at night, say about 8-11 pm.
Guess I'll give it a try...
R.
You will be OK. The taxi will drop you off on either side of the shopping center. Once you enter you will go to the second floor. Before leaving ask the receptionist (who speaks English) to have security walk you down to a taxi (you might want to tip him R$5+). Be sure to have the address of where you are going written down so you can give it to the driver. The drivers outside L'uomo are cool and will take you directly to where you need to go.
I was in L'uomo the other night and they have a nice selection of attractive and friendly girls. Well worth a visit.
I still do not understand why mongers pay the Barbarella girls so much money. I see them in Balcony or the Pussycat strip club, and they fit end. I het girls at these places want R150.00 for a few hours each time, and if I give taxi money they stay later to all night. So why give the Barbarella girl R500-600?
It's the same as buying clothes at the start of the season and at the end. If you buy a pair of shorts in June they will always be more expensive than in October. Pussycat and Balcony are like outlet stores, if a girl from Barbarellas is there it is either because she wasn't bought at full price or she is second hand. Barbarellas has a cut off point for girls returning after a session, I think it is 1am, if she is not interested in going home she may well go to Balcony for a bit of extra cash.
But how many of you have actually seen with your own eyes a Barbarellas girl working in Balcony? Not been told by a girl that she works there, but actually seen her in both locations.
Poucolouco
03-17-10, 00:59
What you suggest makes perfect sense. However, I can think of one reason to keep the police off the buses. I remember standing in a bank line with a friend and how nervous she got when the money pickup and the accompanying armed guards arrived. She said it was the worse time to be in the bank because there might be a shootout.
I can see this same thing happening on the buses. Police in Rio shoot to get their man. If someone else happens to be in the way, oh well.
Prime example, just last week a bandit attempted robery on the bus. An off duty policeman just happend to be on the bus. He drew his service revolver and shot the perpetrator but the bullet accidently passed through the bad guy and also hit the bus driver.
Jamaicanceo
03-17-10, 01:02
it's the same as buying clothes at the start of the season and at the end. if you buy a pair of shorts in june they will always be more expensive than in october. pussycat and balcony are like outlet stores, if a girl from barbarellas is there it is either because she wasn't bought at full price or she is second hand. barbarellas has a cut off point for girls returning after a session, i think it is 1am, if she is not interested in going home she may well go to balcony for a bit of extra cash.
but how many of you have actually seen with your own eyes a barbarellas girl working in balcony? not been told by a girl that she works there, but actually seen her in both locations.the barbarella girl attached was sitting with me and her girl friend who works balcony. she wanted r350 and says she gets that at barbarella. i admit she had a nice body, but the was lots more doable girls at balcony for r150 and i've had them for 3-4 hours. i want all the girls to leave so i can sleep in safety and start my next day on my terms and not theirs.
so a r350-600 gdp is out he question. i know that some guys ignore the price for what they want with a fantasy. r150 is great price for a clean and lustful gdp. there is another barbarella gdp who is part of the same circle. she cried at the table in balcony because now the game has changed and the money isn't easy competing with the lower cost post helpee gdp buyers market. the grl in the picture mentioned to my firend that i wouldn't take her home for r350. when we all walked over to the pussycat. i asked her again and she stayed at r350. at day break we all caught a cab, dropper her off at her apartment on ns the copa, and me and a pussycat went to my apartent for r150 completa and her taxi home.
thank you very much!
BootyTapper
03-17-10, 02:28
I have been out of Brazil for a year now and its time to make my run back down. I was reading the treads and looking at the Help pictures and its sad, I had soo much good memories of that place... from my first to last time in the building. I was one of those mongers that at least visited Help twice on every vacation, but over the years I started to drift away from it. After discovering the newspaper ads, the internet, Termnas, and other play spots in Copa, Help did not appeal to me that much because I now had other sources. Nevertheless I still went to Help because of its legendary status and guaranteed meat market, now its gone and it will be strange walking by and not seeing those dancing feet anymore.
Now from here I see that Balcony is picking up the slack, but it has big shoes to fill. This trip down I am going to party hard in Centro with the Termnas; 502, Black and White, and 4x4. What is the latest word on Luana? Has anyone spotted her at 502 or Black and White lately? This trip I am also finally going to party hard in Sao Paulo, I found out couple of the video girls are working over there plus I get to catch a Corinthians game. Sao Paulo might just fill the void Help has left in me.
BootyTapper
03-17-10, 02:36
But how many of you have actually seen with your own eyes a Barbarellas girl working in Balcony? Not been told by a girl that she works there, but actually seen her in both locations.
I can say that I have seen that happen couple times, matter of fact one of my best playmates used to work at Barbarellas, then come up to Help. She used to tell me that week days after work she would stay outside at Balcony unless it was raining, but on the weekends she would go inside Help. A friend and I went to Barbarellas and saw her once, but I was not going to take her out for those prices. We mostly saw her and her co-workers from Barbarellas outside Help when we were coming to the club.
Mr Enternational
03-17-10, 03:16
All of my apartment people want R120 now. I have never paid more than R100. I may have to turn my back on Rio.
The Barbarella girl attached was sitting with me and her girl friend who works Balcony. She wanted R350 and says she gets that at Barbarella. At day break we all caught a cab, dropper her off at her apartment on Ns the Copa, and me and a Pussycat went to my apartent for R150 completa and her taxi home.
Thank you very much!
Lots of girls can enter Barbarellas to pick up the slack and try and sell themselves but are they really the quality that people go to Barbarellas for? I doubt it because if they were they would get what they're asking for at Barbarellas early in the evening and not have to end up at Balcony with the rats and cockroaches of copa trying to pass themselves off as a Barbarella girl because if they really were that quality they wouldn't end up at Balcony.
While the girl in your picture is very nice, she may not be the cream of the crop that can demand 500 reais and get scooped up early in the evening. There are Barbarella girls and then there are Barbarella girls. Go in there at 2:30 in the morning, you'll see lots of leftovers, these are the ones going to Balcony.
Jamaicanceo
03-17-10, 07:54
there are barbarella girls and then there are barbarella girls.i've been to barbarella numerous times and at all times. i just do not think they are all that for the money they want, just like i had told helpee girls to kiss off with their over-rated bundas!
Brazil Specialist
03-17-10, 13:59
Speaking about safety, I have been in Rio for a few days, and hoping to do some hobbying at L'Uomo when my meetings are over. But, when walking along the promenade at Ipenama Beach after dinner, my Brazilian hosts got very worried about a couple of guys that they felt were targeting us and made us get on a bus just to avoid being robbed. This was under the lights on a very busy street with lots of people around.
Given that I only speak English and stick out like a sore thumb as a tourist, is going to L'Uomo, even by taxi, safe? Should I go to Monte Carlo instead, since maybe it is easier to locate without walking around Copacabana at night? What's a reasonable time to go to the termas safely?
I'd hate to miss the termas experience since I have hobbied all over the world, but now I'm thinking twice about going.
Thanks, R.
Taxis are safe.
If you are paranoid, get yourself a special taxi driver by recommendation, or from a reputable taxi company. And call him whenever you need a taxi. But that is being over-careful. Taxis are safer then private cars as gangsters don't want to mess with the taxi mafia and want taxis to transport customers to their favela.
There is a metro stop next to L'Uomo.
I would avoid walking around L'Uomo at night. If you are super careful, take a taxi to go there even daytime, but again, not especially dangerous during day time.
If you have a special taxi friend, he will be happy to get a commission for bringing you. Or pm me and I tell you how to get them to get the commission to me instead ;-)
I would not even walk around Monte Carlo when it gets late at night, especially if you are not street wise and look like an obvious gringo victim.
A few years ago I posted a report "Rio safety for the paranoid", maybe I should rework it.
I do rent suites in my own apartment to single travellers. Usually I give valuable guidance and security help if you are at my place (pm me for details, best you already include your email address).
Brazil Specialist
03-17-10, 14:07
All of my apartment people want R120 now. I have never paid more than R100. I may have to turn my back on Rio.
Rio is getting expensive. If you stay longer, month or so, you can find cheaper offers. Or in cheap, near downtown, dive hotels.
I rent suites in my apartment for US$ 70 per day which is about what you quote. If you are really tight I might give a discount. But if you are at my place, my advice usually save lots of money elsewhere, mainly with girls. I presume this is not considered spam as I reply directly to the topic.
But yes, I live in Rio and almost feel like going on sex tourism to Asia. Things are pretty expensive here.
This is due to exchange rate, and due to leftist Lula surreptively jacking up minimum wages by, I think, 8% per year over the last 8 years. Good for the poor (who still don't quite deserve it because most are totally uneducated and incompetent), but bad for visitors who want cheap services.
But the girls here still are the hottest in the world ;-)
But the girls here still are the hottest in the world ;-)
which is just one of the reasons that gets me back to Brasil over any number of Asian countries ;). And, if you know how to work the system, you can still get quality at a good price (not to mention an apartment at less than half of your rate. ;) ;) ;) )
She wanted R350 and says she gets that at Barbarella.
When we all walked over to the Pussycat. I asked her again and she stayed at R350. At day break we all caught a cab, dropper her off at her apartment on Ns the Copa, and me and a Pussycat went to my apartent for R150 completa and her taxi home.
And this is my point, a Barbarella girl at Balcony will still want Barbarella prices, she went home alone and would not drop the price. There is a lot of bullshit about girls from Barbarellas working here there and everywhere for R$50 but show me the evidence and I will believe you. And as Sangue pointed out there are Barbarella girls and there are girls who have stuck their ass in Barbarellas for less time than me. I would never claim to be a Barbarellas client but I have been there more often than half the women in Balcony or Help that have claimed to be working there.
I used to go out with a girl who worked in Barbarellas, she charged $R200 or US$100 an hour, not all night, not 2 hours, but per hour, her friends charged $600 for 2 hours. That was from 2004 to 2007. We used to go to Balcony during the day for a choppe, so not all Barbarella girls in Balcony are working, they may be there with friends or clients.
Can someone post a picture of a Barbarellas girl that they have had for R$50 or R$100 working in VM or a downtown Termas? I have posted before on the cheapness and availability of expensive Barbarellas/Franks(now the Mermaid) girls in Noruiega/Ciccohoweveryoufuckingspellit at knock down prices at 3 or 4am, its not news it's just left overs.
Can some of the regular posters give an update on when Franks became the mermaid? Any reviews on the new bar on the scene, or is no one actually in Rio at the moment?
Jamaicanceo
03-18-10, 03:10
and this is my point, a barbarella girl at balcony will still want barbarella prices, she went home alone and would not drop the price. there is a lot of bullshit about girls from barbarellas working here there and everywhere for r$50 but show me the evidence and i will believe you. and as sangue pointed out there are barbarella girls and there are girls who have stuck their ass in barbarellas for less time than me. i would never claim to be a barbarellas client but i have been there more often than half the women in balcony or help that have claimed to be working there.
i used to go out with a girl who worked in barbarellas, she charged $r200 or us$100 an hour, not all night, not 2 hours, but per hour, her friends charged $600 for 2 hours. that was from 2004 to 2007. we used to go to balcony during the day for a choppe, so not all barbarella girls in balcony are working, they may be there with friends or clients.
can someone post a picture of a barbarellas girl that they have had for r$50 or r$100 working in vm or a downtown termas? i have posted before on the cheapness and availability of expensive barbarellas/franks(now the mermaid) girls in noruiega/ciccohoweveryoufuckingspellit at knock down prices at 3 or 4am, its not news it's just left overs.abzsafado,
thanks for the enlightenment. i fly into rio 24 march for 12 days, my 2nd trip since helpee closed. i would like to know more about this barbarella gdp scene. monica, another barbarella princess, who cried at my table last trip in balcony because she is reduced to the horrors of balcony than helpee, is who i want to get at balcony prices. there are some good deals to be made.
Smokers Rule
03-18-10, 03:40
I recently went to Rio. Went to Barbarella, Balcony, and Solarium. A couple of pictures are in the photo gallery section.
Barbarella: I don't think this is a terrible option. You'll end up paying about US200 TLN for top shelf girls. As long as you get a good girl, not bad.
Balcony: I didn't like Balcony the first night I went because it was hot. The bathrooms are not stellar, but they are not as bad as some have made them out to be. I have been in worse. There are a LOT of girls, and they are very hungry here. The key is pouncing on the ones you want when you want them. I had a couple of cousins I was going to leave with R400 for both TLN, but I let them get away. You can definitely find ST 100-150 and LT 200-250 here easily. This is a great place...very busy.
Solarium: This was my first time at Solarium. I actually went to 4x4, but it was Saturday and they were closed. Solarium is more expensive...it ended up being something like R330 for 40 minutes. There were fewer girls, and the quality was lower than 4x4. On the good side, the girl I took (Josie? Joyce?) did a monster deepthroat...definite PSE. There was slobber everywhere. How enjoyable.
Craigslist girl: My final night in Rio, I met a girl from Craigslist. We pre-negotiated R400 for TLN. She actually just arrived back in Brazil. She had worked in London, where she says she made a LOT more money. (She is this girl: http://www.londonukescorts.co.uk/escort/4685). This must be true, as we met for dinner, and she rolled up in her own Mercedes. She spoke lovely English (British accent) and she was very sweet.
Something interesting I learned from her: £120 seems to be the going rate for lower- and medium-end London escorts. Of this, £20 goes to the driver, £50 goes to the agency, and £50 goes to the girl. That's less than I thought.
Here are a couple of tips I can offer about Rio...
TAXI
I use the following company for airport pickup and dropoff:
CARLOS ALBERTO
Tel 55 21 7605-5889
www.rio-taxi-brazil.com
I have used them three times, and they have been at the airport waiting for me with a sign every time. They charge R55 for airport pickup and dropoff, and I think they can supply an English speaking driver if you need one.
Flights back home usually leave late at night, so I generally hire this company to provide a "city tour" that ends at the airport. The city tour is a minimum of 5 hours at R25 per hour. I usually go see some sights and then head to the termas before going to the airport. This works out well because, having used them before, I know I can trust them to keep my bags when I'm sightseeing/termasing.
CONTACT IN RIO
The best part about my recent trip was that I found a reliable contact in Rio. He is an American living in Rio for 8 years, and he is about 40 years old. I always like to have a contact in the places I go just in case I ever need anything. I paid him R100 a day to negotiate with girls/call girls/hang out. As I don't speak Portuguese, this was definitely worth it. At Balcony, I was basically like, "Okay, I want those girls," and he would go negotiate the price. I didn't even have to get up. If you need his contact info, let me know.
Exec Talent
03-18-10, 04:50
TAXI
I use the following company for airport pickup and dropoff:
CARLOS ALBERTO
Tel 55 21 7605-5889
www.rio-taxi-brazil.com
I have used them three times, and they have been at the airport waiting for me with a sign every time. They charge R55 for airport pickup and dropoff, and I think they can supply an English speaking driver if you need one.
Flights back home usually leave late at night, so I generally hire this company to provide a "city tour" that ends at the airport. The city tour is a minimum of 5 hours at R25 per hour. I usually go see some sights and then head to the termas before going to the airport. This works out well because, having used them before, I know I can trust them to keep my bags when I'm sightseeing/termasing.
That is a reasonable price for airport pickup given the personal level of service. Same for the city tour. Sounds like you found a winner.
thanks to everyone who replied to my paranoid gringo safety thoughts, especially exec talent and brazil specialist. to bs, repeating your safety report would be very useful to rio newbies like me.
i did go to luomo and had no trouble, following the excellent directions given here and in the rio guide. the experience was good, but not fantastic. there were about 15 girls to about 5 guys, but there were only 2-3 guys in the lounge at any given time, so not too crowded. i would rate the girls there from 5 to 8 on a 1-10 scale in terms of looks and body, with most about 6 or 7 (on my scale, 6 means i could do them).
my taste runs to more petite, so the best-looking one was [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901), a bleached petite pretty pale blonde with nice tits and friendly enough. not much english but that's okay by me, and unlike previous reports, she did dfk. her bbbj was only average though, but we had a good time, and she stayed for the whole time cuddling after the main fireworks were over. i then opted for dark chocolate and sampled mel (or something like that), a petite dark-skinned girl who seemed to love dancing. while she was sensuous in the lounge, with great dfk, she was less interested in the room and also gave only a so-so bbbj. total cost was 540 reals for the 2 girls and 3 drinks.
again, it was fun and the girls were friendly (even to a foreigner like me), but the atmosphere and quality of the girls was nothing like a german fkk, which for me is still the best mongering experience. also, i saw prettier and tighter brazilian girls (9's on my scale) at lady marmalade parties in london, so the quality was a little disappointing (recognizing, of course, that this was only 1 night at 1 termas).
thanks again to everyone, and happy hobbying!
r
Smokers Rule,
Why not just take the shuttle rio for R$12 to R$18?
Smokers Rule
03-18-10, 23:30
Because I like taxis and I don't like shuttles?
It seems that whenever anyone puts a price to something they post on here, someone else immediately criticizes them for paying too much. I am not interested in justifying or explaining what I pay for things.
Smokers Rule,
Why not just take the shuttle rio for R$12 to R$18?
Jamaicanceo
03-18-10, 23:47
Because I like taxis and I don't like shuttles?
It seems that whenever anyone puts a price to something they post on here, someone else immediately criticizes them for paying too much. I am not interested in justifying or explaining what I pay for things.You know Smokers Rule, there are definitely a whole lot of self appointed Brazilian experts in this forum. They just can't allow others to experience Brazil the way you want to. And they will haggle over R10. Well maybe some people can afford the extra reais. Like they have to "one-up" someone. Now I could see if you asked them a question, which you didn't. No I wouldn't do the taxi tour thing, but if you like it, who are we to judge. But there may be a time when we may want to do it your way. It's great to know your point of view, because it may come in handy.
Thanks Smokers Rule for your post!
I was one of those guys who when in Rio went to Help almost every night. So I was skeptical as to how this trip was going to turn out.
Balcony and Dolce Vita turned out to be disappointments.
Last night Wednesday night I found another girl on Hotside to go to 2A2 with me, this time more my type, Blond and thin.
She meets me at my apto, we have a couple of Red Bulls and Black Label, we go to a nice restaurant in Copa and have a bottle of wine and then we get to the club at about 11:15.
This girl at least I could kiss, it started out quickly, standing in the hallway with my arms around her kissing, my hand moves over to the leg of the girl standing next to me with her date, she embraces my hand and now I start moving to her bucetta and hers to my crotch, next thing you know she is over by me and her date is with my girl. We decide to move to a private room, I bang her, he bangs my Hotside girl. I don't know how many times I did this with other couples but we took a break and ended up dancing downstairs a couple of hours later
I meet 2 other couples on the dance floor, I say lets all go up stairs and get a room, my girl balks and says she has had enough, I told her I will throw in a performance bonus if she does this with me, she agrees, then I ask the other 2 couples to lets go to my apto, they agree, they have a car, 6 of us go to my apto. I did both those girls, those girls and guys did my nice blond.
The 2 couples left and my girl says to me, I need you to fuck me right now, she was so hot from all the action and so wet, I couldn't refuse this even after doing at least 5 girls that night and so did she.
This seems to be how I'm reinventing my Rio experience so far, puts Help to shame.
Jamaicanceo
03-19-10, 02:23
i was one of those goes who when in rio went to help almost every night. so i was skeptical as to how this trip was going to turn out.
balcony and dolce vita turned out to be disappointments.
last night wednesday night i found another girl on hotside to go to 2a2 with me, this time more my type, blond and thin.
she meets me at my apto, we have a couple of red bulls and black label, we go to a nice restaurant in copa and have a bottle of wine and then we get to the club at about 11:15.
this girl at least i could kiss, it started out quickly, standing in the hallway with my arms around her kissing, my hand moves over to the leg of the girl standing next to me with her date, she embraces my hand and now i start moving to her bucetta and hers to my crotch, next thing you know she is over by me and her date is with my girl. we decide to move to a private room, i bang her, he bangs my hotside girl. i don't know how many times i did this with other couples but we took a break and ended up dancing downstairs a couple of hours later
i meet 2 other couples on the dance floor, i say lets all go up stairs and get a room, my girl balks and says she has had enough, i told her i will throw in a performance bonus if she does this with me, she agrees, then i ask the other 2 couples to lets go to my apto, they agree, they have a car, 6 of us go to my apto. i did both those girls, those girls and guys did my nice blond.
the 2 couples left and my girl says to me, i need you to fuck me right know, she was so hot from all the action and so wet, i couldn't refuse this even after doing at least 5 girls that night and so did she.
this seems to be how i'm reinventing my rio experience so far, puts help to shame.a great post-helpee experience. more helpee mongers need to quit crying like helpee gdp and find the new rio! i like helpee closing so much that i am flying back to rio from los angles 1 month after my last trip!
Because I like taxis and I don't like shuttles?
It seems that whenever anyone puts a price to something they post on here, someone else immediately criticizes them for paying too much. I am not interested in justifying or explaining what I pay for things.Thats funny I didnt criticize you for paying too much. You did give a price on what you paid so i gave a price on the shuttle. I didnt say it was too much for the taxi or not. I would like to know what is the difference between a taxi and a shuttle though.
This seems to be how I'm reinventing my Rio experience so far, puts Help to shame.
Nice report.
Today Thursday started out as cloudy and rainy. I was a top the Marriott hotel during the day about 11 am, the sun wanted to come out, there were some female tourist there, one I spoke to was from the UK, Other two was so white looked like Americans. Then a nice couple comes to the pool, he is white, she is bronze and sweet and beautiful, I admire them.
A white American woman comes to the pool, mid 30's, I speak to her, she responds, we have lunch at the pool, while having lunch at a table I take a look at the nice couples girl because she is so beautiful, by my surprise, she locks eyes with me, I find this interesting. I now reevaluate what they are, he is a young business man, and she is a GDP and very fine one indeed. She doesn't stop giving me the eye, for the next 2 hours. He leaves once and I go to approach her but he returns and she looks the other way.
The American woman I was having lunch with I couldn't get off the ground because of her time constraints and commitments, what a shame, she was really nice. I leave the pool empty handed.
I return to the Marriott bar at night about 11 PM, have drinks and dinner at the bar. I encounter 2 GDP's form the other night, top notch stuff, we converse about their business in general in a post Help era. The one girl tells me business is better for her now because in Help there was more competition and now in the Marriott she gets business men to pay her price and she is out of there in less than an hour.
The girl from the pool enters the bar with a friend and sit next to me, I ask her if she knows who I am from today at the pool and where is her boyfriend, she says he is sleeping, I tell her then she must have done a good job on him. She says he is leaving soon and she is looking for a new boyfriend. They ask me if I'm staying in the hotel, I tell them I am staying in Rocina. I don't like her personality and everybody moves on.
I go to Melt, nothing happening
I go to Shenanigans, nothing happening.
I go to Emporium and nothing is happening
I go to Balcony and nothing is happening.
I go to Dolce Vida and it is packed, many girls approach me and former bouncers from Help, everybody is hugging me, I see the famous Juliana, she lost 8 kilos by easing up on the drinking, she looks good.
I spot a young cute very white skin girl with jet black hair, we connect, I talk to her about the swing club, she is interested to come with me some , she likes the idea and has been before, she likes girls and guys, she wants to do some heavy screwing.
I take her to my apto, good stuff, up for a good time, BBBJ, DFK, she will be a good company for 2a2 on my next venture.
...I was a top the Marriott hotel during the day...They ask me if I'm staying in the hotel, I tell them I am staying in Rocina....
How did you get up to the roof of the Marriott if you weren't staying there? Security there must really be lax. :confused:
Went to the Balcony bar today after spending almost 6hrs getting my police report. Jet lagged and in no mood to play I just did some observing. When I arrived there were 7 girls with about as many guys A skinny dark haired one with a Chinese tat on her ankle caught my eye but was in no condition to do anything about it. Seems the Talent was less appealing then three years ago but then I was only there between 4:30 and 5:30. Going to crash now for a few hours then an ex girlfriend from my last trip is supposed to come over and put me to sleep properly. Perhaps tomorrow will be a better day.
How did you get up to the roof of the Marriott if you weren't staying there? Security there must really be lax. :confused:
The Marriott has the tightest security I have seen in most hotels, nothing gets past them. But there is a way for non guests to use the hotel facilities if they want.
A white American woman comes to the pool, mid 30's, I speak to her, she responds, we have lunch at the pool, while having lunch at a table I take a look at the nice couples girl because she is so beautiful, by my surprise, she locks eyes with me, I find this interesting. I now reevaluate what they are, he is a young business man, and she is a GDP and very fine one indeed. She doesn't stop giving me the eye, for the next 2 hours. He leaves once and I go to approach her but he returns and she looks the other way.
The girl from the pool enters the bar with a friend and sit next to me, I ask her if she knows who I am from today at the pool and where is her boyfriend, she says he is sleeping, I tell her then she must have done a good job on him. She says he is leaving soon and she is looking for a new boyfriend. They ask me if I'm staying in the hotel, I tell them I am staying in Rocina. I don't like her personality and everybody moves on.
I go back to the Marriott today, this same girl comes walking in to the pool area alone this time. She sits on a chair and about 45 min later I go over and say hello, she responds and we talk a little, this time she seems more friendly and nice. I ask her where her boyfriend is, she says he is at work and will return at 8 PM and she is lonely and bored with nothing to do.
I told her I can help her out and give her something to do for a few hours in my apartment close by. She says 300 reais, I said 150 is the number, think about it and let me know, she said lets go.
She just left, what an amazing crazy experience. I asked her why she was looking at me in the pool yesterday while she was already occupied, she said I made her wet and she wanted to meet me and have sex with me, I told her she should pay me. She was here a couple of hours.
Patience paid off because the pool was dead all day, I did converse with a nice American blond but she was with her boyfriend who was working, so that was a no. There were a couple of woman in their 70's but they would have really had to pay me. Then I just had lunch, met some friends and then Bam it all came together. We did every letter in the alphabet daty dfk you name it, good stuff.
The Marriott has the tightest security I have seen in most hotels, nothing gets past them. But there is a way for non guests to use the hotel facilities if they want.
Which is...................................?
Philosophery
03-20-10, 00:50
Which is...................................?He probably took the beach entrance which is a secluded hall away from the wandering eyes of security.
He probably took the beach entrance which is a secluded hall away from the wandering eyes of security.
If that's the case, then it just confirms my original statement, that security there must be [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor.
Which is...................................?
Some hotels including the Sheraton have packages you can buy to use their facitities, like the gym, the pool and the beach service. The marriott has the same thing, daily, weekly and monthly packages. The monthly is 200 reais, weekly is 120 reais.
If that's the case, then it just confirms my original statement, that security there must be [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor.
Again, The Marriott has very tight security, believe me, you cannot operate the elevator without a security card, so the furtherst you can go as a Joe Public is the bar, thats it.
How did you get up to the roof of the Marriott if you weren't staying there? Security there must really be lax. :confused:
Funny, I just realized why you asked that question, you didn't get my joke:
...I was a top the Marriott hotel during the day...They ask me if I'm staying in the hotel, I tell them I am staying in Rocina....
Rocina, is the big Favela in Rio, there I was in the Marriott, having a lot going on in the bar, she asks me if I'm staying here and I respond no Rocina, sorry thats just my humor.
Funny, I just realized why you asked that question, you didn't get my joke:
Rocina, is the big Favela in Rio, there I was in the Marriott, having a lot going on in the bar, she asks me if I'm staying here and I respond no Rocina, sorry thats just my humor.
Actually it's Rocinha, not Rocina, and yes, I know what it is. And no, I didn't realize it was a joke; I guess your humor is just too subtle for me. :rolleyes: I thought you meant you were staying NEAR Rocinha, not in it. After all, Rocinha is right next to Sao Conrado, one of the upscale suburbs, and to the Intercontinental, a luxury hotel, so it isn't that far-fetched that you would be staying out there. As Steve Martin used to say, excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me!
Today Thursday started out as cloudy and rainy. I was a top the Marriott hotel during the day about 11 am, the sun wanted to come out, there were some female tourist there, one I spoke to was from the UK, Other two was so white looked like Americans. Then a nice couple comes to the pool, he is white, she is bronze and sweet and beautiful, I admire them.
A white American woman comes to the pool, mid 30's, I speak to her, she responds, we have lunch at the pool, while having lunch at a table I take a look at the nice couples girl because she is so beautiful, by my surprise, she locks eyes with me, I find this interesting. I now reevaluate what they are, he is a young business man, and she is a GDP and very fine one indeed. She doesn't stop giving me the eye, for the next 2 hours. He leaves once and I go to approach her but he returns and she looks the other way.
The American woman I was having lunch with I couldn't get off the ground because of her time constraints and commitments, what a shame, she was really nice. I leave the pool empty handed.
I return to the Marriott bar at night about 11 PM, have drinks and dinner at the bar. I encounter 2 GDP's form the other night, top notch stuff, we converse about their business in general in a post Help era. The one girl tells me business is better for her now because in Help there was more competition and now in the Marriott she gets business men to pay her price and she is out of there in less than an hour.
The girl from the pool enters the bar with a friend and sit next to me, I ask her if she knows who I am from today at the pool and where is her boyfriend, she says he is sleeping, I tell her then she must have done a good job on him. She says he is leaving soon and she is looking for a new boyfriend. They ask me if I'm staying in the hotel, I tell them I am staying in Rocina. I don't like her personality and everybody moves on.
I go to Melt, nothing happening
I go to Shenanigans, nothing happening.
I go to Emporium and nothing is happening
I go to Balcony and nothing is happening.
I go to Dolce Vida and it is packed, many girls approach me and former bouncers from Help, everybody is hugging me, I see the famous Juliana, she lost 8 kilos by easing up on the drinking, she looks good.
I spot a young cute very white skin girl with jet black hair, we connect, I talk to her about the swing club, she is interested to come with me some , she likes the idea and has been before, she likes girls and guys, she wants to do some heavy screwing.
I take her to my apto, good stuff, up for a good time, BBBJ, DFK, she will be a good company for 2a2 on my next venture.
Great reports. Your reports are testament life after Help ain't bad at all. Keep the good info flowing companheiro!
couple of pics from my last dec'09 trip. one helpling and a BA 115 R17.50 ass
Sangue Bon:
Sounds like you are having a grand ole time. I'm eagerly awaiting the info on the muscular chick you first took to 2a2. And now also, the Hotside Blonde you took on your second visit.
thanks in advance
Sangue Bon:
Sounds like you are having a grand ole time. I'm eagerly awaiting the info on the muscular chick you first took to 2a2. And now also, the Hotside Blonde you took on your second visit.
thanks in advance
Here is the link to the muscular chick
http://www.hotside.com.br/app/site/modelo/?id=183
The Blond info in a few days.
Actually it's Rocinha, not Rocina, and yes, I know what it is. And no, I didn't realize it was a joke; I guess your humor is just too subtle for me. :rolleyes: I thought you meant you were staying NEAR Rocinha, not in it. After all, Rocinha is right next to Sao Conrado, one of the upscale suburbs, and to the Intercontinental, a luxury hotel, so it isn't that far-fetched that you would be staying out there. As Steve Martin used to say, excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me!
Sorry about the spelling, you're right of course on the spelling as you always are, I wish you were my English teacher at the time.
Friday night I go to 2A2 with the Blond from Hotside, she’s actually calling me now an escort from Hotside.
We get in the club, get a drink, sit down at a table with a young couple, she is so Blond I wonder if it is real or not. I tell her I lover her hair, she tells me she doesn't speak Portuguese, I said do you speak English? She said only French; they are a French couple on Holiday in Rio. I like this very much.
The night moves on but I think Wednesday night was better than Friday night, eventually I spot the French couple in the swing area, I position myself close to them, I make my move and it is accepted, we go to a private room all 4 of us and lock the door, we were in there a while, I banged the Blond good, but the rooms are small so its hard to get good footing, she gave me a nice BBBJ also, the other guy is having a good time with my nice girl, he enjoyed her.
We meet another couple who work together in some Gym in Rio, eventually we go to a room together, this one is even smaller than the other one, she had such a tiny little wet bucetta, thin legs, small nice tits. Again the guy loves my girl and the girls are kissing. The girls exchange numbers; maybe we will all go out Saturday night together.
There could have been one more but for some reason I pulled out I guess I was tired after having that girl from the pool only hours before, I should have known better but I couldn't resist.
After the club empties, my girl says to me lets go back to your apartment and she fucks me for over an hour. Now she could have just demanded payment and gone home but she came back and fucked me silly which would have been enough in itself for the encounter but taking into consideration at 2a2 and then the nightcap, she’s a real good girl, one of those that you find rarely, she’s not a hustler and doesn't rush or cut corners.
I paid this girl 400 reais but in my opinion it was well worth it. Considering it would cost you that in Centaurus for 40 minutes, I banged 5 nice girls plus had a full evening with a show and fun with different people, I had a great time. This is not a cheap night by no means, my girl only had 1 alcohol drink, I drank Black Label and red bull, my tab including cover was 230 reais, so total cost for the night was 630 reais, you only live once, this aint no dress rehearsal.Sangue, when you said muscular chick, I thought you meant this one:
http://www.hotside.com.br/app/site/modelo/?id=331
That girl got MUSCLES, lol
Anyway, you paid your Muscles $R400 the other night. What the Blond cost ya for Friday night? What was the total tab for Friday nights festivities? (If I may ask.)
BTW, have you heard of Mistura Certa Clube? It's another swing club in Centro.
http://misturacerta.com.br/
Checkout the video in "dependencias." It appears to be bigger than 2a2 and festa18a.
Member #3439
03-20-10, 20:45
Speaking about safety, I have been in Rio for a few days, and hoping to do some hobbying at L'Uomo when my meetings are over. But, when walking along the promenade at Ipenama Beach after dinner, my Brazilian hosts got very worried about a couple of guys that they felt were targeting us and made us get on a bus just to avoid being robbed. This was under the lights on a very busy street with lots of people around.
Given that I only speak English and stick out like a sore thumb as a tourist, is going to L'Uomo, even by taxi, safe? Should I go to Monte Carlo instead, since maybe it is easier to locate without walking around Copacabana at night? What's a reasonable time to go to the termas safely?
I'd hate to miss the termas experience since I have hobbied all over the world, but now I'm thinking twice about going.
Thanks, R.
If guys are following you too close, do a wide u-turn and walk back toward them. It will momentarily throw them off and, if you then find that you need to run, you have several seconds of advance reaction time on them, and are probably headed back toward a safer area that you have already passed through.
With that said, I see it worked out for you. But there will always be some paranoia for some first-time people and I'd recommend they stay at the Copacabana Premier hotel and experience the benefit of a nice safe walk to both L'uomo and the metro station. Bar 22 and NS Copa apartments are also nearby. Then as comfort increases, you can move to a different hotel if needed.
Break 'em in for me..hopefully I am down there again in May.
Exec Talent
03-20-10, 21:46
It would seem to me if your objective is to take a GDP to a swing club and put her out there for the masses, maybe the best way would be to minimize the cost.
http://www.agenciafelinas.com.br/html/garotas.htm
has girls for R$200 for swinging.
My experience at 2a2 was that the girls (actually more like women) I saw were not nearly as attractive as the girl I brought. The live band on the first floor is good and the live strip show is a lot of fun, but the actual "swing" area, the second floor, is dark and crowded.
I am interested in checking out some of the other places mentioned since they seem more spacious and are geared toward a younger crowd.
Sangue, when you said muscular chick, I thought you meant this one:
http://www.hotside.com.br/app/site/modelo/?id=331
That girl got MUSCLES, lol
Anyway, you paid your Muscles $R400 the other night. What the Blond cost ya for Friday night? What was the total tab for Friday nights festivities? (If I may ask.)
BTW, have you heard of Mistura Certa Clube? It's another swing club in Centro.
http://misturacerta.com.br/
Checkout the video in "dependencias." It appears to be bigger than 2a2 and festa18a.
Well, the pictures of her are not that good and I did report she was not my type or that I even had sex with her, I called her because she says she goes to the casas de Swing only. But as I reported she was a hit and it paid off for me.
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The Blond was willing to accept 300 reais but I gave her 100 reais as a performance bonus so total for the girl is 400, she was with me working for 6 hours and I mean really working. Back at my apto she pulled out this dildo that was not shaped like a penis but had these rings on it, good thing I'm in good shape, my hand was going like a jack hammer in both holes, I'm not really an anal man but since she was interested in it I went to insert my own hammer and she screamed, too grosso, I know it's a trick of theirs but she was looking for it anyway with her hand held device. She wouldn't stop, this hole that hole, several holes at a time.
My experience at 2a2 was that the girls (actually more like women) I saw were not nearly as attractive as the girl I brought.
You're right but I also noticed something last night, I saw a few stunners, runway model types that I would have done anything to be with but their men were pudgy and balding and my girl didn't want to be with them. The couples we were with the men were young and in shape, so my girl was attracted to them, so she had fun too.
Mrblackluv
03-21-10, 00:02
I just got back from 9 days of fun in Rio.
I spent many hours reading these posts and reports before I went, so I was armed and ready with information. Thanks to you all.
First a little background. I'm 40 years old, but am regularly told that I look 28. I am just under 6ft tall. Most women describe me as good looking. I just finished P90x, so I have most of a six pack, guns, back. Ect. (I'm relatively fit). I am black, and no stranger to urban environments. I have mongered in the DR 3 or 4 times.
Safety
Maybe it's just me, but I feel this is blown out of proportion a bit.
I followed simple rules. Have a "presence", look people in the eye. Always have a wingman.
My apartment was on Sousa Lima. Not once did I ever feel unsafe or in any danger, and I regularly walked those streets at 2-3AM during my stay.
Pricing/Women
I am very picky, yet I had no issues finding top quality (stunners, 9-10's, dimes, etc.) beautiful women. My primary hunting ground was Dolce Vita/Balcony. I usually paid R150, and never paid more than R200. Every single girl stayed until after 10AM. Some came back later in the day for free.
Did I get turned down? Sure, once or twice. But by the end of our stay those same girls changed their minds. My wingman and I had developed a reputation of nice guys who don't BS and pick a different girl every night.
For you guys who say that Balcony/Dolce sucks. I can't even imagine what Help was like. I had a great time.
My wingman and I have always had a bit of a different philososphy with the girls than some guys. We respect the girls, and treat them like girlfriends for the night. We are clean and smell good, our apartment is clean and smells good. We have separate bedrooms, and bathrooms. We have music, drinks, toothbrushes, soap, socks, candles etc for the girls. I'd like to think that they actually enjoy spending time with us.
We hit most of the other clubs/bars listed in various posts. By the end of the night we somehow made it back to Dolce Vita many times. I'm not sure why Barbarella is mentioned here as some great quality spot. IMO I didn't see any better there than at balcony.
As stated my previous mongering has only been in the DR. I have caught the occasional lame fuck in the DR. I was really surprised at the passion that these brazilian women have. Every single girl tried to fuck the shit out of ME no matter what position we were in.
Termas
We hit 4X4, Luomos, Centaurus, Monte Carlo and Solarium.
All of them were about the same, except for Centaurus, which was head and shoulders above in quality of girls, ambiance (and price). Centaurus. Was off the chain. Fine assed girls with a nice place/ambiance to get comfortable. I had two girls at once for the first time of my life. It was cool, but looks more fun in pornos.
In most of the other termas. If we saw girls we liked we got their phone numbers and hooked up after they got off, or on their off day.
Non Pro's
We did not partake of any non-pro action. I don't speak any Portuguese, but even that wasn't the primary reason. We simply ran out of time. We went to Club Six, Via Show (amazing real Brazilian experience), Bux (Hot, wealthy women), and Bottinetti (sp). We also met women in shops, at the mall, etc. We got plenty of phone numbers, and probably could have fucked some of them with a little effort.
It was just easier, and less work to get a pro. We didn't have time to "date" a non pro.
So, I can't wait to get back. Would really like to see Bahia, and will definitely improve my Portuguese for my next trip.
Thanks again, and I hope this information is helpful/useful to someone.
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You all probably already know this but Brazilian condoms are not a girls best friend. Picked up a nice GDP at the balcony tonight but forgot to bring my own condoms. The one she slipped on though slipped is not the right word was so tight I lost most of the the feeling in my dick and the poor girl had to work for close to 45mins to get the desired result. Now I know why so many people here suggest bringing you own.
Brazil Specialist
03-21-10, 09:56
You all probably already know this but Brazilian condoms are not a girls best friend. Picked up a nice GDP at the balcony tonight but forgot to bring my own condoms. The one she slipped on though slipped is not the right word was so tight I lost most of the the feeling in my dick and the poor girl had to work for close to 45mins to get the desired result. Now I know why so many people here suggest bringing you own.
Bring your own condoms.
I used one Brazilian condom 25 years ago. It broke. Never again used one.
Probably they got safer in the mean time. But they are just like basic Trojans. Now there are some gringos who come with basic Trojan condoms. Big mistake. I used one recently and it felt like a truck tire to me.
Do your research. You cannot go wrong with "Crown skinless skin", widely considered the best condom in the world. Really thin. Just make sure you get some proper lube, proper for condoms, as you should not force it into dry holes. If you are hung like a horse you might need Magnum or Magnum XL which unfortunately are not thin. I would try to squeeze into a Crown. It is thinner and thus less tight ..........
Greg Williams
03-21-10, 17:13
If guys are following you too close, do a wide u-turn and walk back toward them. It will momentarily throw them off and, if you then find that you need to run, you have several seconds of advance reaction time on them, and are probably headed back toward a safer area that you have already passed through.
With that said, I see it worked out for you. But there will always be some paranoia for some first-time people and I'd recommend they stay at the Copacabana Premier hotel and experience the benefit of a nice safe walk to both L'uomo and the metro station. Bar 22 and NS Copa apartments are also nearby. Then as comfort increases, you can move to a different hotel if needed.
Break 'em in for me..hopefully I am down there again in May.PPlayer when in May are you going there? I will be there end of April to early May.
Mrblackluv
03-21-10, 19:01
Bring your own condoms.
I used one Brazilian condom 25 years ago. It broke. Never again used one.
Probably they got safer in the mean time. But they are just like basic Trojans. Now there are some gringos who come with basic Trojan condoms. Big mistake. I used one recently and it felt like a truck tire to me.
Do your research. You cannot go wrong with "Crown skinless skin", widely considered the best condom in the world. Really thin. Just make sure you get some proper lube, proper for condoms, as you should not force it into dry holes. If you are hung like a horse you might need Magnum or Magnum XL which unfortunately are not thin. I would try to squeeze into a Crown. It is thinner and thus less tight ..........Thanks for the tip about crowns.
I will look into them.
Exec Talent
03-21-10, 19:38
You're right but I also noticed something last night, I saw a few stunners, runway model types that I would have done anything to be with but their men were pudgy and balding and my girl didn't want to be with them. The couples we were with the men were young and in shape, so my girl was attracted to them, so she had fun too.
I got it that you traveled on USAir from Newark to Charlotte to Rio. I got that you misspelled Rocinha, the largest favela in Rio. I understood that the way you accessed the Marriott’s facilities, even though you were not staying there, was by buying a day/week pass.
What I don’t get is that you pay an escort (who goes to her clients sight unseen and has sex with them) to go with you to a swing club AND you do not get to have sex with the runway model types because she does not want to have sex with their dates. That makes no sense whatsoever. Maybe there were so many drop-dead gorgeous young girls at 2a2 that you didn’t want to make waves with your “date” over why she came there with you in the first place. Just a thought.
Member #3439
03-21-10, 20:35
You all probably already know this but Brazilian condoms are not a girls best friend. Picked up a nice GDP at the balcony tonight but forgot to bring my own condoms. The one she slipped on though slipped is not the right word was so tight I lost most of the the feeling in my dick and the poor girl had to work for close to 45mins to get the desired result. Now I know why so many people here suggest bringing you own.
Not just in Brasil. You should take condoms wherever you go.
I was actually just having this same discussion in the Tokyo thread. So condoms on both sides of the world suck.
That being said, I have a collection of opened condom wrappers that I keep for souvenirs. Many are Brasilian because I failed to bring my own. Yes, I know that's freaky and I'm probably the only one that does this.
My first real hardcore international mongering was on a biz trip to Sao Paulo. Suppliers were taking us out, wine and dine, and buying us girls in high end termas, 2 a night. So the first day of the trip, I sessioned two of the most beautiful girls that I had ever seen. The next morning I woke up and wondered if this was really true, or I had dreamed it!
After that, if I have a really good session I try to keep the wrapper, so I can look at it when I am an old man and remember how great it was to be young and know for sure that these memories aren't just a geriatric delusion.. I write a number on each and have notes and everything else..this loira in Sampa, Termas Bacos June 13 2005 had braces and I shot on her nose, these morena at Rio, Flavia Massagens June xx 2009 let me fuck her in the ass and then gave me a massage, this J-girl in Osaka, Jan xx 2009, deep throat and doggy. this China girl in Tokyo, blah, blah blah...You get the idea. I recommend this system, like a mongers scrapbook. :)
Anyways, I digressed for your entertainment. Put the good condom on your packing list and then you wont forget them. I am carrying a dozen with me at the moment.
I got it that you traveled on USAir from Newark to Charlotte to Rio. I got that you misspelled Rocinha, the largest favela in Rio. I understood that the way you accessed the Marriott’s facilities, even though you were not staying there, was by buying a day/week pass.
What I don’t get is that you pay an escort (who goes to her clients sight unseen and has sex with them) to go with you to a swing club AND you do not get to have sex with the runway model types because she does not want to have sex with their dates. That makes no sense whatsoever. Maybe there were so many drop-dead gorgeous young girls at 2a2 that you didn’t want to make waves with your “date” over why she came there with you in the first place. Just a thought.
Well, there were some nice girls there besides the runway model types and they were ok but you are absolutely right I need to stop being so considerate of other people as much as I am; it’s one of my many flaws.
Part of the problem is that I think is while these girls do go to clients home sight unseen, they are only doing one client and getting paid for one. In the swing club the demands are more and I have an appetite for many girls usually escorts want to do the minimum. Even though this girl was a good sport, I didn't want to push it; I figured that I could get more girls without her balking if she was enjoying herself too.
When this girl first came to my apartment for a 2 hour session, the first thing she said when she walked in my apartment was good you are young and handsome and she smiled and was releaved. I'm sure sometimes these girls have a tough job to do for the 2 hours at times, they do it for the money but I'm sure they don't always enjoy it.
She enjoyed being with me and I wanted her to enjoy her whole experience with me too so she knows I'm considerate of her and will be willing to have future engagements with me in places like this.
I have also noticed that many of these girls would not go to a swing club with a client so when I found a good one that was willing I didn't want to ruin it.
I always feel that a good deal is when all parties are happy and she has already given me freebie time which is hard to come by.
When this girl first came to my apartment for a 2 hour session, the first thing she said when she walked in my apartment was good you are young and handsome....
Well you may be handsome, that I wouldn't know. But if, as you have said in many posts, you have been coming to Rio since the early 1980s when you worked for Pan American Airways, you most definitely are not young (unless you started coming to Rio when you were about six). My guess is that she was telling you what you wanted to hear--as all GDPs do--and you fell for it.
Well you may be handsome, that I wouldn't know. But if, as you have said in many posts, you have been coming to Rio since the early 1980s when you worked for Pan American Airways, you most definitely are not young (unless you started coming to Rio when you were about six). My guess is that she was telling you what you wanted to hear--as all GDPs do--and you fell for it.
You're absolutely right, I didn't say I was young, she did. But I was with a business women today at the Marriott she took me to lunch at Mondego restaurent, she is married and has time constraints. She in no way needs to tell me how young I look, she underestimated my age by 11 years, it happens all the time. I go to the gym 2 hours a day 7 days a week, so I don't really look my age.
In the swing clubs the girls were not GDP's and I would say most of the women I did were about 30.
I do understand that GDP's tell you what you want to hear, for me it's part of the fantasy, If I feel that the girl thinks Im young and is enjoying it, it makes me feel better, nothing wrong with that.
My first time in Rio was 1980 so this is my 30th anniversary trip, I was in my 20's.
You're right but I also noticed something last night, I saw a few stunners, runway model types that I would have done anything to be with but their men were pudgy and balding and my girl didn't want to be with them. The couples we were with the men were young and in shape, so my girl was attracted to them, so she had fun too.
I suspect these runway models with the old men may have been working too!
Hey Sangue Bon,
Thanks for the terrific reports on some of your great adventures in Rio. Just loved every minute of it. Not sure why some are nit-picking on certain details, but I for one, sure look forward to more of your adventures. Very refreshing....keep up the good work, SB.
Hey Sangue Bon,
Thanks for the terrific reports on some of your great adventures in Rio. Just loved every minute of it. Not sure why some are nit-picking on certain details, but I for one, sure look forward to more of your adventures. Very refreshing....keep up the good work, SB.
Thank you very much.
Nit picking is actually good sometimes because it pushes you to give a deeper explanation, the guys here who had questions are experienced mongers and I respect their opinions and appreciate their good questions, keeps us honest and everybody is different. If one person can't understand why somebody does something that's ok but I had my reasons for it.
Also after 30 years coming here I don't fall for too many things anymore but I still learn things all the time.
Saturday night I went to Dolce Vita, arrived about 2 AM, the place was packed, lots of real good stuff there. It was a nastalgic night for me so I took out a girl that I took out from Help in 2001 for old time sake. 200 reais, it was just OK.
I also spoke to a girl there I know from 1998, she always asks me, why don't you take me anymore, I told her because you are too expensive for me(truth is she is too old for me) It's sad to see some of these girls have to continue.
Jamaicanceo
03-22-10, 00:55
Hey Sangue Bon,
Thanks for the terrific reports on some of your great adventures in Rio. Just loved every minute of it. Not sure why some are nit-picking on certain details, but I for one, sure look forward to more of your adventures. Very refreshing....keep up the good work, SB.Ditto! Sangue Bon. You don't have to explain yourself. Your critics just wonder why they can't be you!
Mrblackluv
03-22-10, 02:15
You're absolutely right, I didn't say I was young, she did. But I was with a business women today at the Marriott she took me to lunch at Mondego restaurent, she is married and has time constraints. She in no way needs to tell me how young I look, she underestimated my age by 11 years, it happens all the time. I go to the gym 2 hours a day 7 days a week, so I don't really look my age.
In the swing clubs the girls were not GDP's and I would say most of the women I did were about 30.
I do understand that GDP's tell you what you want to hear, for me it's part of the fantasy, If I feel that the girl thinks Im young and is enjoying it, it makes me feel better, nothing wrong with that.
My first time in Rio was 1980 so this is my 30th anniversary trip, I was in my 20's.People really underestimate how much being in shape takes years off of your appearance. Just today I met a girl who thought I was 26.
At times I also felt that maybe the GDP's were telling me what I wanted to hear.
But then. I met one who again said I was 28. I told her she was wrong, and that I was 40. She refused to believe me. We eventually decided to bet R200.
Of course I won. She never paid up. But did come back twice for free, bought drinks at the club, cleaned my apt, cooked, and spent a few days off an on. I think she's real cool people, and I plan to keep in touch.
Exec Talent
03-22-10, 07:58
Some of us are just trying to be like Bon, Sangue Bon. We want to see a swing club filled with middle-aged and not so attractive women transformed, on the nights we chose to visit, into one overflowing with runway models. We want to be so sensitive that we too will pay an escort a lot of money to accompany us to the swing club and instead of distracting the dates of the runway models, have sex with men she is attracted to leaving us with their less than runway model companions. There should be a Hallmark card.
We too want to be so suave, debonair and dare I say cunning enough to rent an apartment but give the eye-candy hanging out at the pool of one of Rio's 5-star hotels the impression we are staying there. And when asked, to divert attention by saying we are staying in Rio’s largest favela – brilliant.
Of course we do realize that we now must work out two hours a day so we too can attract a seemingly never-ending bevy of beauties wherever we go. We assume that one of the ancillary benefits of being in such prime condition is the ability to night after night have sex so many times. I was exhausted and unable to function for two days just from reading of Sangue Bon's insatiable appetite.
Quite simply. We are not worthy. I feel humbled even as I write this. Maybe, just maybe someday one of us can tag along and document Sangue Bon's exploits. It would be an honor should I be the chosen one.
BTW, I wonder what body wash Sangue Bon uses?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE
Some of us are just trying to be like Bon, Sangue Bon. We want to see a swing club filled with middle-aged and not so attractive women transformed, on the nights we chose to visit, into one overflowing with runway models. We want to be so sensitive that we too will pay an escort a lot of money to accompany us to the swing club and instead of distracting the dates of the runway models, have sex with men she is attracted to leaving us with their less than runway model companions. There should be a Hallmark card.
We too want to be so suave, debonair and dare I say cunning enough to rent an apartment but give the eye-candy hanging out at the pool of one of Rio's 5-star hotels the impression we are staying there. And when asked, to divert attention by saying we are staying in Rio’s largest favela – brilliant.
Of course we do realize that we now must work out two hours a day so we too can attract a seemingly never-ending bevy of beauties wherever we go. We assume that one of the ancillary benefits of being in such prime condition is the ability to night after night have sex so many times. I was exhausted and unable to function for two days just from reading of Sangue Bon's insatiable appetite.
Quite simply. We are not worthy. I feel humbled even as I write this. Maybe, just maybe someday one of us can tag along and document Sangue Bon's exploits. It would be an honor should I be the chosen one.
BTW, I wonder what body wash Sangue Bon uses?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE
Sorry I hit that nerve but I just had to.
During the last few weeks I've been through Rio on business a time or two. At Luomo last night, I spent a disappointing 16 minutes in the cabina with Babi, a thick legged blonde who has a piercing in her right eyebrow, and likes to drink red martinis. I wasn't in the mood to wait and choose and after a bit, I welcomed her to sit by me. Mistake #1. Mistake #2 was actually going to the cabina with her. In the cabina, she immediately reached for the condom, gave a half hearted BJ effort while my buddy was wrapped, then tried to mount me with a very dry opening. When I asked if she had some lube, she said she doesn't use it (guys always bring your own lube to the cabina.)
I rolled her over and how I managed to finish I don't know but I did. She kept blocking my strokes and had her hand down there at action central the whole time.
Bottom line: Avoid Babi at Luomo. She needs another line of work. I would have been happier if I'd rolled my body in the plastic wrap they offer at the airport.
At 4X4 there's a tall beauty by the name of Vivian. She looks like a track and field star. She also is a waste of time in the cabina. She too wraps your buddy like it's a WMD and does a half assed job of intercourse. Don't be fooled by her good looks and athletic body. I realize there will always be YMMV but this was so bad, I have to warn my fellow monger brethren.
On the positive side: at Monte Carlo, Isabel has been a partner of mine several times. She's funny, happy, NEVER asks or orders a drink on your bill, and is the ultimate top position rider in the biz.
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Greg Williams
03-22-10, 10:41
http://www.rioapartmentrental.com/
http://www.rentaflatinrio.com/
http://www.cariocaapartments.com/
http://www.copacabanapt4rent.com/
Hi,
Have any of you used the above website to rent apartments?
Were your experiences good? Thanks much.
I suspect these runway models with the old men may have been working too!
I would suspect that also or if the guy just had a lot of money. But that's the other thing, what appeals to me at these swing clubs is not to go there and trade my GDP for your GDP, I can go to a termas to do that or call in 2 escorts. What appeals to me is to do somebody else’s girlfriend, a non pro. Somebody who is there to actually have sex with a stranger and enjoy it not there because she is getting paid.
Exec Talent
03-22-10, 14:40
I would suspect that also or if the guy just had a lot of money. But that's the other thing, what appeals to me at these swing clubs is not to go there and trade my GDP for your GDP, I can go to a termas to do that or call in 2 escorts. What appeals to me is to do somebody else’s girlfriend, a non pro. Somebody who is there to actually have sex with a stranger and enjoy it not there because she is getting paid.
Ahhh, the elusive Rio non-pro. Is there a great prize? To get for free, or kind of sort of free that for which other men so gladly pay. And taking a highly paid escort to a swing club and swapping her for a semi-attractive suspected non-pro; ay, there's the rub. If only their heads could be mounted. But fear not, we always will have our memories and of course, a few watermarked photos.
Exec Talent
03-22-10, 14:41
Sorry I hit that nerve but I just had to.
Not so much hitting a nerve as setting off a meter.
Mr Enternational
03-22-10, 15:09
People really underestimate how much being in shape takes years off of your appearance. Just today I met a girl who thought I was 26.
At times I also felt that maybe the GDP's were telling me what I wanted to hear.I'll be 38 next month and I'm not in shape, but naturally look like I am. Many regular people (GDPs don't always lie) say I look 26 when I shave and have a haircut. My dad is 59 and when we are together people think we are brothers and not father and son. The cookie just crumbles like that sometimes.
Good newbie report Mrblackluv. I'm glad you were able to break away from DR. As you saw it can't hold a candle to Rio. DR is much closer to the U.S. and you can get girls much cheaper TLN, but other than that.
I'm at the airport in Salvador now. I'm going to make a connection in Sao Paulo to meet my ex girlfriend who is connecting from Rio. We are heading down to Florianopolis together. I will arrive in Rio on Thursday and would like to hit the Bux place you mentioned. Where is it located and what is a good night to go on?
Mrblackluv
03-22-10, 16:57
I'll be 38 next month and I'm not in shape, but naturally look like I am. Many regular people (GDPs don't always lie) say I look 26 when I shave and have a haircut. My dad is 59 and when we are together people think we are brothers and not father and son. The cookie just crumbles like that sometimes.
Good newbie report Mrblackluv. I'm glad you were able to break away from DR. As you saw it can't hold a candle to Rio. DR is much closer to the U.S. and you can get girls much cheaper TLN, but other than that.
I'm at the airport in Salvador now. I'm going to make a connection in Sao Paulo to meet my ex girlfriend who is connecting from Rio. We are heading down to Florianopolis together. I will arrive in Rio on Thursday and would like to hit the Bux place you mentioned. Where is it located and what is a good night to go on?You're right. Rio is much better than the DR, but I'll still go back for the very reasons you mentioned.
Club Bux is in Ipanema. Maybe two doors down from Bottinetti (I don't think I'm spelling that right).
If I recall correctly, we went there on a Sat night.
I was referred there by one of the girls in Centaurus.
FYI..my post's are being moderated/approved for some reason, so they don't show up real time.
Some of us are just trying to be like Bon, Sangue Bon. We want to see a swing club filled with middle-aged and not so attractive women transformed, on the nights we chose to visit, into one overflowing with runway models. We want to be so sensitive that we too will pay an escort a lot of money to accompany us to the swing club and instead of distracting the dates of the runway models, have sex with men she is attracted to leaving us with their less than runway model companions. There should be a Hallmark card.
We too want to be so suave, debonair and dare I say cunning enough to rent an apartment but give the eye-candy hanging out at the pool of one of Rio's 5-star hotels the impression we are staying there. And when asked, to divert attention by saying we are staying in Rio’s largest favela – brilliant.
Of course we do realize that we now must work out two hours a day so we too can attract a seemingly never-ending bevy of beauties wherever we go. We assume that one of the ancillary benefits of being in such prime condition is the ability to night after night have sex so many times. I was exhausted and unable to function for two days just from reading of Sangue Bon's insatiable appetite.
Quite simply. We are not worthy. I feel humbled even as I write this. Maybe, just maybe someday one of us can tag along and document Sangue Bon's exploits. It would be an honor should I be the chosen one.
BTW, I wonder what body wash Sangue Bon uses?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUE
Lol, I saw this coming a few days ago.
I would suspect that also or if the guy just had a lot of money. But that's the other thing, what appeals to me at these swing clubs is not to go there and trade my GDP for your GDP, I can go to a termas to do that or call in 2 escorts. What appeals to me is to do somebody else’s girlfriend, a non pro. Somebody who is there to actually have sex with a stranger and enjoy it not there because she is getting paid.
When does a pro cease to be a pro? I have an ex girlfriend that was a professional in various establishments in Rio. She enjoyed the swinger scene as well, if she is not getting paid to go there is she still a pro or just a nymphomaniac?
When does a pro cease to be a pro?
When she fucks for free.
Lol, I saw this coming a few days ago.
So did I because I think it was him at 2A2 that night with the runway model.
KellySlater
03-22-10, 23:47
Some of us are just trying to be like Bon, Sangue Bon. We want to see a swing club filled with middle-aged and not so attractive women transformed, on the nights we chose to visit, into one overflowing with runway models. We want to be so sensitive that we too will pay an escort a lot of money to accompany us to the swing club and instead of distracting the dates of the runway models, have sex with men she is attracted to leaving us with their less than runway model companions. There should be a Hallmark card.
We too want to be so suave, debonair and dare I say cunning enough to rent an apartment but give the eye-candy hanging out at the pool of one of Rio's 5-star hotels the impression we are staying there. And when asked, to divert attention by saying we are staying in Rio’s largest favela – brilliant.
Of course we do realize that we now must work out two hours a day so we too can attract a seemingly never-ending bevy of beauties wherever we go. We assume that one of the ancillary benefits of being in such prime condition is the ability to night after night have sex so many times. I was exhausted and unable to function for two days just from reading of Sangue Bon's insatiable appetite.
Quite simply. We are not worthy. I feel humbled even as I write this. Maybe, just maybe someday one of us can tag along and document Sangue Bon's exploits. It would be an honor should I be the chosen one.
BTW, I wonder what body wash Sangue Bon uses?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owGykVbfgUEET,
What Am I, (are we) missing?
You seem to be offended by SangueBons's posts/reports.
What did I miss. he seems to be providing awesome feedback on his experiences.
I dont get it.
Zone Change
03-23-10, 00:06
first time in rio.
statistics 14 days:
4 balconygirls. 150-200r for 2 hours each. i had one girl for 3 days (800r+ food, drinks, gifts and some other stuff). another one for 2 days (400r+.).
2 la ciccolina girls. 150-200r for 2 hours. both very gfe.
1 ba85 girl. 20r for 20min. fantastic girl. all included, even bareback (which i don't do with gdp's).
total 7 girls and i had great sex with 6 of them, only one balconygirl caused me some trouble (julia, 26-28y, had a jewish look). she wanted money before sex in my hotel, she refused to take a shower before sex and so on. i gave her 100r and threw her out.
la ciccolina, 60r entry fee and it includes two drinks. 30r ladydrink. 30r to the club if you want to take a girl with you. they don't have rooms here. no fixed prices for the girls, you must negotiate here.
"pussycat" had a lot of hot girls, even 2-3 9's-10's. 200r for 1 hour. the club have their own rooms. 10r for a beer. no entry fee before midnight. i did not go with any girl here.
don't go to ba85 between 5pm-8pm, it is packed with brazilians. i went there 12. 30pm one day and it was almost only girls there. 3r for a beer. no entry fee. no rob.
the girls like to fuck without condom in rio. the ba85-girl almost raped me without protection and 2 of the balcony girls became pissed when i wanted to have condom.
i heard that vila mimosa is the next project to shut down after help.
thank god that i had studied portuguese before i went to rio. many girls can not even say "hi" in english. i studied brazilian-portuguese pimsleur 1 and 2. i could actually speak some portuguese with the girls and they was so impressed that i could speak to them after only two months study.
no termas or escortservice on this trip, but i will be back, rio is a much better place than thailand when it comes to sex and beautiful girls.
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When she fucks for free.
In that case all the gdps in 2a2 are non pro's for you, because you aren't paying her.
I can also recommend Pimsleur Brazilian Portuguese for learning this language. A great help with further pronounciation help from my brasiliera love and her daughter.
Last night Wednesday night I found another girl on Hotside to go to 2A2 with me, this time more my type, Blond and thin.
She meets me at my apto, we have a couple of Red Bulls and Black Label, we go to a nice restaurant in Copa and have a bottle of wine and then we get to the club at about 11:15.
This girl at least I could kiss, it started out quickly, standing in the hallway with my arms around her kissing, my hand moves over to the leg of the girl standing next to me with her date, she embraces my hand and now I start moving to her bucetta and hers to my crotch, next thing you know she is over by me and her date is with my girl. We decide to move to a private room, I bang her, he bangs my Hotside girl. I don't know how many times I did this with other couples but we took a break and ended up dancing downstairs a couple of hours later
I meet 2 other couples on the dance floor, I say lets all go up stairs and get a room, my girl balks and says she has had enough, I told her I will throw in a performance bonus if she does this with me, she agrees, then I ask the other 2 couples to lets go to my apto, they agree, they have a car, 6 of us go to my apto. I did both those girls, those girls and guys did my nice blond.
The 2 couples left and my girl says to me, I need you to fuck me right now, she was so hot from all the action and so wet, I couldn't refuse this even after doing at least 5 girls that night and so did she.
This seems to be how I'm reinventing my Rio experience so far, puts Help to shame.
This is the link to the above mentioned girl. I was with her yesterday afternoon, this time she leaves her phone on, it is always ringing, she must get a lot of business. She actually came over to my apartment unannounced, I didn't call her, it was a surprise visit. And what a surprise it was, I had just called CIAPLUS to send over a girl, went to take a shower and was putting shaving cream on my face when the door bell rings; I think it’s too early for the girl to have arrived already.
I go to the door and it's not my CIA escort, it's this girl here. I tell her to come in and sit down and tell her I will be right back and finish my shave.
I quickly get my phone and call CIA back and my phone tell me I have 2 minutes of time left. I get them on the phone and tell them to not send the escort, they understand, the girl never shows up.
Back to my escort now sitting in the living room, we have something to discuss, then we have an afternoon session, while we are having sex her phone does not stop ringing, business must be good. After 2 pops she gets up rushes to take a shower, runs out the door, no payment.
http://www.hotside.com.br/app/site/modelo/?id=761
ET,
What Am I, (are we) missing?
You seem to be offended by SangueBons's posts/reports.
What did I miss. he seems to be providing awesome feedback on his experiences.
I dont get it.ET = Execrable Talent. Make sense now?
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